The New York herald., 1869-06-18

venton
The Executive Committee reported that they have
been unable to see the necessity for maxim such
provision.
Mr.. ANDREWS was not satisfied with this report
and spoke feelingly Of the necessity Of a CORE.
spending secretary, since the Committee on Foreign
Correspondence inefficient. But nOtwithstand-
ing his appeal the Convention voted to sustain the
lOrt Of the Executive Committee.
The next matter discussed was the report of the
same committee. that 1t Is ineXpedent to adopt the
proposition VI Mr.. Mann, made at the Convention in
1855, as fOllOws:-
Whereas the time of the sessions of the General Convention
too much occupied by the OF topics brought
Of expedns the transaction Of business 'O VIC pup'''
s s OF na e G ss Be e
classified system of standing committees whose operation
every subject be dgested and mated before its resen
Resolved That all interested in this subject are hereby
qesed to forward TO thus committee suggestions that
s esn s committee arc instructed to report at
the next meeting OF the General Convention.
Mr.. MANN defended his action and the proposed
committee and urged Its Acceptance bat the recon-
mendatiOn OF the Executive Committee that 1t IS IN
| ton
pedient to agree to the following proposition Of Mr.
! Andrews, Made last year,
Resolved Tha. committee three be appointed to CO.
Great Britain and other bodies of the Church
% s % & and @ r M to
the world be held June 49, 1870 to celebrate the centenary
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There appeared to be some difference of opinion as
to the proper time when the centenary occurs but,
after some conversation the recommendation OF the
| committee was adopted.
Professor THEoPHILUs PARSONS of Cambridge
called attention to msprint In the financial report
OF the Publication House, which was at once recog-
| nized and ordered to be corrected.
Mr.. THOMAS HITCHcoCk, the report Of the Com
mitee on Eccesiastcs being in order, said that the
committee had made no definite report any sub
ject referred to It, except the order of Divine
vices during the Convention, and he moved that the
M MI Islapn of
all subjects referred to 1t previous to this COnven-
ton and the movers Of resolutions thus referred
have leave to introduce the same anew.
Mr. JAMES, Of Ohio stated this resolution would
interfere too much with the abors OF the committee,
na any ,rend 6i M measure now IN committee may
particular subject or that 1t report forthwith.
MIR. PERRY, Of Massachusetts, believed the resolu-
tlon proposed unwarrantabe action and Mr.. Hitch
cock withdrew 1t by leave OF the House, and re-
minded the House that in 1868 he had introduced the
following, which were referred to this committee
and not acted on by it,
Resolved, That the Committee Ecclesiastical Affairs be
n ss the following subjects and report there
The propriety Of using the terms "parsh designate
heavenly doctrines and "docese" to designate tho territory
the pfopriey making in New Church organizations,
. to e Supper s %s ose wSo DO
ns FSp ss Of s .S mot ministers
trines Of the New Church. ''''
lie wished bring the first of these subjects again
before the convention and he would ask how he
could do II, as 1t Is in committee
The CHAIR u. Y. Scammon, of Ohcago), ruled that
this convention Is not continuation OF that OF last
year but new body. and the proposition sought to
be offered by Mr.. Hitchcock may be presented an
original motion.
Mr. HITCHCOCK thereupon offered preamble and
resolution.
Whereas the fundamental principle of this Convention is
that persons are 70 be regarded its members
Whereas the terms "pash "docese" in their usual
fah residing i geographical District isrsiors
q ted
with by the name Of parish" and associations of such
Resoyed 1ha, the following be made standing resolu
transactions of this Convention shall be held To nee ana ana
primary organization Of New Churchmen by whatever
manner.
was new business and the order OF the day was the
reports Of committees. The point Of order was over
ruled.
Rev. DIR. AGER moved that the preamble and re-
solutions be referred to the Committee Ecclesias
ucal Aiiairs The vote was quite even, but was de-
on the adoption OF the resolutions, Mr.. HITCHCOCK
explained his intention TO be to discourage the
names OF parishes and dioceses to be recognized In
the Convention and to dlsapprove of their use but
at the same time 10 grant the communicants
planned that OF old the word parish" was a geo.
graphical designation. but that In this country It
means only the Professors OF the same faith within
certain limits; that this Is opposed to the funda.
mental system OF the Church Of New Jerusalem,
which recognizes membership only by some voun.
Mr.. J. Y. scAMMoN had some more important OBJ
jections to the use OF tie words "parIsh' and
diocese" Words, In this sense, are things and
creep into the Church rituasm crept into tue
Episcopal Church makiue It but monarchical
colony Q: Great Britain in this country. The New
Church Is q church Of freedom; they have no ten
dency to be governed by bishops archbishops, as
the Protestant Episcopal. The Church Is based on
and associations expressive OF American IDEAS
and he objected TO the use of any other terms they
had parish" and ''diocese'' already creeping into
the Church In Missouri and Illinois, and some OF the
ministry begin TO have liturgies OF their own.
wou,a ma5ot ar6oss asfens oe to these terms he
and diocese" be authorized without a dis
ilnct definition OF the power conferred, minis
ters Will gradually exercise greater powers and pre-
rogatives and something AKIN TO the episcopal sys-
TEN may crop out of it. They were all brethren,
the rest. He was IN favor OF the resolution.
Rev. THOMAS p. RopMAN, OF Philadelphia dis
claimed on behalf OF the ministry all ambitious de-
signs, but was m favor OF some sort Of an episcopal
system, not IN the sense OF an English bishop which
was merev she Latn m wora eP'scopus but a. the
tendent-not as the Moravian bishops only to ordan
ministers, but to keep general watch over minis
tica working system for the visible Church: he
would have q bishop over him, whether called care.
taker, overseer or superintendent.
Mr. ISAIAH I. WILLIAMS OF New York, was willing
70 accept any term In harmony with the facts. But
invisible church, II II be visible, composed Of men
women ana children, why should the officiating minis
ter at this church not have supervision OF young
.nuiSuco euN haNc thcH uuutI splT-
New Jerusalem was the inspiration Of God, then
this IL society IN which every individual was
church IN himself for the propagation OF the doc
rine-colsg,un de ptopdodndo Nde--lCres "speak
English. What is thatr')-Acollege for the propa-
cation OF the faith. AZ such II needed neither
priests nor any other distinguishing religious
teachers. Ifit was a visible Church. there was no
objection to call the primary organizations parishes
larger districts dioceses ana their principal minis
ters bishops
Mr. WIN. G. CHURCH, Of the Arnlp ana Wary Jour.
nal 10 bring the matter TO Close offered the follow.
ing as substitute for Mr.. Htchcocks preamble and
resolution
Resolved That this General Convention does recognize
organizations OF the New Church. as at present
and that they are not included In the oher collective
bodies or the Church., used 10 the constitution OF th
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