The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1869-10-25
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Detective Beach again took the stand, and
asked permission TO state some facts which
had not occurred to him on the day before.
He said : While the negotiation was going
on at BannaScHs house about the stamps
Roche asked me if l had done any business
WITH Mr.. Stone, TO which l replied that l
had not. being afraid of the man. He said,
"Well, that's right. While myself and my
partner and Mr.. Stone were in New York
after these stamps Mr.. Stone came one day
and said that he was ready TO make the ptr-
chase. We had 5000 there, which was fur
nished lis from Richmond. | told him that
it wouldn't do; he couldn't beat us out Of
that -, ,OO0.' Witness then asked: g Stone
is on that, is hc:" Roche replied, "1cs !;
but he couldn't make it work." BY being
Ion that" meant to ask whether Stone
was in 4 job to get the $4,000.
CRoss-EXAMINATIoN.
Cross-examined by Mr.. .Bundy: 1 first
met Mr.. Hoppe in his factory, and intro
duced myself as Il purchaser of Tobacco,
from Mobile, Ala. represented my object
remember that any one was present at the
interview, though somebody might have
been within hearing. Have no distinct re-
collection OF what passed between us on
that occasion. l might have told him ,thatal
hhad been TO see other dealers, rs | had come
direct from Mr.. Registers factory. Du-
ring that conversation the subject OF: cOun-
terfeit stamps was not mentioned, according
to my recollection We spoke Of tobacco
and general subjects, and mentioned hay
ing formerly lived in Richmond (about nine
teen years ago., and my acquaintance with
various parties in the city. Spoke of M1.
.Gennetl the jcWeller being the only per-
son1 could find that l knew. s. ,,,-, ..sg ,,.s
,a .....s THE FIRST INTERVIEW. II. .!,,,.-.s
/ Spent an hour in Hopes company at
TO nv former residence in Richmond, &C.,
was to get acquainted and to gain his con-
tdence. represented, too, that had been
myself once q manufacturer OF tobacco Ii
New York city, and that my factory was
seized by the Government for fraud Of some
kind. Also represented myself as acquaint-
cd with Mr.. j. Ii. +. Mayo, Of New York,
whom Hoppe knew said i had been pur-
chasing to bacco from him. This Mr. Mayo is,
think, Il relative Of the Richmond sMayos..
At that time, or, at some interview, said
about $S4 600 for taxes, which I could not
pay. I inquired for his partner, 8a. BAN
nasch, who he (HpppeDtsaidI aHas lin New
York. When | proposed to purchase to-
bacco he referred me to Mr.Taylor. Think
l succeeded in gaining his confidence ut the
first interview. My main object was to
gather facts in relation to frauds supposed
TO lie going on in Richmond. rrs.zT
-;-& WHOLESALE SUSPICIOUS, Tr>r,7r i,
~ ] suspected Hoppe and that factory Of be-
ing engaged in the fraud. Indeed, sus-; ;
pected them all.
9 NIr. Bundy: Did you have any more rea-
son to suspect that factory any more than
Mr. Mayo's or DIR. Reysterlsy?a ?ae nILnEq ~;
Witness: No, sir; I only went TO that
first. Il did not then learn anything con-.
Meeting Hoppe with the frauds. .saeia'
Mr.. Bundy: Was your attention particu-
1arly directed to, stamp frauds ?,o ,,afa,a zyr
~ Witness, That was the, object Of, my trip
South. 1wantto capture those counterfeit
sixty pound stamps Had reason to:belieye.
that they had been used ION tobacco here
4 had then reason to believe that they had
been used on tobacco. did not ascertain
that Mr.. JHoppe,or Bannasch s factory had,
used any of them, and l hays not, to this
day ;ascertained that Mr.. Hoppe ever made
use of them. When l firstsaw Hoppe and
iBannasch in company they Were at the fac
tory. This was ON Monday the 4th. Mr..
Mr. Hoppe there. a few steps down Frank
lin street we met Mr.. Bannasch, and with
him returned to the factory, my object being
to make his acquaintance.
Uin7 FRAUDULENT ADVANCES.
- AT tho flctoryswe discussed the price of
tobacco, the expense Of putting it mp, etc.,
Had made no offer as sayet about the pur-'
chase. was introduced to MIR. 3 lin the
character of dealer from Mobile. Hoppe
was present at this interview only for short
time. Bannasch and Irwere tegether. Made
no advances Of fraudulent nature that |
.recdllect of on this occasion. At another
time j. proposed that BanRasch and Hoppe
should furnish me with the bogus stamps
First hroached the subject to HOppe--don't
remember the date, but it was Within a
week past. WeWere ut the Spotswood, and
Tmade the proposal tCsls3 ssss--'iLslG 8.
;CoUSTEREEIr MONEY, ,ExHIpITED. -,