The New York herald., 1869-02-11
WASHINGTON.


mined hy the votes OF the two houses separately
Tie PRFsIDING 0FFICRR-The concurrent resolu-
tion declares that the vote OF Georgia shall be
announced by the Vice President pro tenn.
very W meen SeE'a dsposeS to OBEY the drecon Of
both branches OF Congress IN this matter.
Mr.. BUrLRR-with great respect for the decision Of
the Chair yet as this Is matter OF high cOnstltu-
tional law and in otner times 1t might make great
trouble propose that the matter shall be consider
ed IN both houses. Counter wailing, excamattons
OF aNol mol Yes yesp from the opposite side OF the
chamber the Senators who were on the democratic
ton ton with the democrats, and with . considerable
number OF republican members VINO were adverse
The PsEslpISs OFFICER rose to face the storm,
and then, dlresoutely and as II he felt himself
utterly embarrassed BY the persisng OF Mr.. Butler,
took his seat again without venturing to express an
opinion or make ruling.
This incident also provoked considerable laughter.
Mr.. JONES, OF KY, as II to add to the comphca-
tions ef the question and to the embarrassment OF
the presiding oIfcer, put forward an oDJectlOn TO
the counting OF the vote OF Georgia In the manner
Indicated in the concurrent resolution and said he
would proceed to write out ms objection IN que
form. He submitted that under the twenty second
rule he had right to object TO that concurrent res0-
luton especially as II was passed subsequent 10 the
election.
carry out his threat the presiding officer as being
the easiest way out OF the dillcultes by which ne
beset rose and said that, objection being made,
the Senate would retire TO its chamber and deibe-
rate. ses
Representative sCorIzLD rep.) OF Pa.-on whats
The PRESIDING oFFIcER-on the objection made
by the gentleman from Massachusetts,.
Mr.. JONES, OF KY. as he saw the Senators rising
TO depart, demanded to know whether his objection
was not in order. N#
the SENATE AGAIN RETIRE FOR DELIBERArIoH.
The only response he received was the repetition
OF the order that Senators should retire. and accord
tngy at three O'Clock the Senators retired from the
hal OF the House OF Representatives looking any
thing but pleased, and with q slightly perceptlbe
diminution OF Official dignity.
After the Senate had retired for the second time,
and after the objection made by Mr. Butler to count
ing the state OF Georgia had been read again at the
the vote Of Georgia be counted notwhst the
objection OF the gentleman from Massachusetts
M ELnRIDcE rose 70 point OF order. The pre-
siding officer OF the Joint convention had twice de-
cided not TO receive the objection, but hold the
convention % the directions contained in the con-
current resout on, and the two bodies had sepa-
rael lie inslsteu not on the objection OF the gen.
teman from Massachusetts, (Mr. Buterl, but on that
made by the gentleman from Kentucky mr. Jones)
Mr.. MAYNARD. trep.l OF Tenn, submitted that that
was not question OF order by mere issue offact.
Ihe sPEAKER-Ihe point In reference to the de
mitcd to that officer when he Is occupying the chair
In his gciai capacity. The Speaker does not rule
on lhe rulings OF the PRESIDENT Of the Senate.
Mr.. ELDRIDGE-The dinerence between tile Speaker
OF the House and the presiding oficer OF the joint
convention can have nothing TO do with the question
except that we are to act on what was done by the
conventions; and the Speaker Is aware OF
the fact that the presiding officer Of the
JOINT convention decided twice against the points
raised by the gentleman from Massachusetts.
The sPEAKER-The opinion OF the chair is the
same as before announced. The point on which the
two Houses separated was on the objection made by
the gentleman from Massachusetts. The President
OF the Senate as the members know very well, hest
tated as to the construction OF the JOINT resolution
and, finally, decided that the Senate should retire.
The decision and the retracy were both the point
OF the objection made by the gentleman from Massa-
THE VOTE OF GEORGIA EXCLUDED.
After some further points OF order had been raised
by Messrs. Maynard and Farnsworth, and over
ruled by the Speaker, the question taken the
be counted and it was decided in the negative BY
vote OF yeas Al to nays 15o-the only republicans
The House then, while awaiting the return Of the
senate disposed by unanimous consent OF Consider
PROTEST OF GEORGIA MEMBER.
MI YOUNG, Of Ca, declared that he entered his
solemn protest. IN the name OF the people Of Georgia
and IN the name OF the constitution, against the
The SPEAKER remarked that that would appear In
the proceedings in the Globe but could not go the
After waiting patiently for about an hour and a
there was no sign OF the return Of the Senate,
MIR. THOMAS (dem.) or Md, offered motion
which, he said, would allow the House to extricate
itself from the unnecessary entanglement in which
1t had got, by motion to reconsider the vote by
which Georgia was excluded from the count
The sPEAKER-Did the gentleman vote with the
majority
Mr. THoMAs-I did.
The sPEAKER-Then the motion is in order.
Mr.. THoMAs-Wfl the chair allow one single mo-
The sFEAKEn.rie PEA; s. question is not debatabe un
der me JOINT rule.
quiry. ! was about to ask the chair whether 1t Is
competent for the House OF Representatives to vote
TO supersede the concurrent resolutions OF both
Houses.
The sPEAKER--As a reply to that question would
Involve discussion OF the question OF what tran
spired with the Joint convention over winch the
Speaker has no power, the Chair must decline TO
aaswer The Cnair can only answer questions
affecting the House Of Representatives.
Mr. THoMAs-I submit the motion to reconsider
and VIII let each member act on his own RESPONSE
MIR. DroKEY-I move to lay the motion 70 recon.
slider on the table.
The House then proceeded to vote by yeas and
nays. IT
MESSAGE PROM THE SENATE
During the taking OF the vote message was re-
cevesi from the senate announcing tnat II had re-
solved that the objection made to the counting OF
the vote OF Georgia was not IN order.
Mr.. WooD moved that the further taking OF the
vote be dispensed with, the Senators being In
waiting.
The SPEAKER ruled that the can or the roll could
NO. pe arreste except oy the constitutional cxpira-
dignity. m N ~ -
Tue vote was concluded. and the mosion 10 recon-
slider was laid on the table by vote Of III yeas 10
voted with the democrats against aying II on the
table:-Messrs. BaA er, Beanlan, Beatty BinghaIn
Boyden, FarnswOrth, Hawkins, Hubbard OF iowa
Jenckes. KetcAam, Koontz, Latin, Lawrence OF pa ,
Moorhead Pie, smith. Wilson, Of Iowa and
Tue srrAKER then. at twenty-five minutes after
four O'Clock. announced that the House would re
ceive the senate OF the United states.
THE JOINT MEETING RESUMED.
The Senators entered the Hall for the third time
took the seats set apart for them. aud Senator vale
n presiding officer AGAIN called the Joint conyen-
tlon 10 order, and announced that the objections o
the gentleman from Massachusetts were overruled
by tie Senate
Mr.. Butler. lrenewlng .the attack impetuously,-
Mr. President rise 10 a question OF order.
The pREsIpNC OFFICER tyanly attempting TO ig
nor tne question Oi ORDER directed the telers 20
on with The count OF Georgia
MI BUTLER. determined not 10 be set aside in that
way sad;-Mr. President, desire to state that the
House snstains objection Of the gentleman from
Massachusetts, and now submit resolution. we
40 not consider that we are to be overruied by the
Senate IN that way. daughter and Manifestations
OF approval ana encouragement from surrounding
The PRESIDING OFFICER with an imperturbaf bic
mannerl-The Chair declines 10 receive .he rpsoll.
tion and the teers VIII make out the statement OF
tne vote as directed tCries of No no,r and ''Yes,
yes and great confusion ana excIfementl
Mt BuTLER-l appeal from the decision OF the
Char TO the Convention. Calls TO order by Mr..
WOODY We VIII see whether we have anv riphfs
here. whispers OF approval and announcement
The PRESIDING oPficER continuing not 10 mind