The New York herald., 1869-10-08

have just passed through great financial crisis
that the 'ringn made 'cornern ana all that, and
''bulled" gold &c. Well, that's all right. Now OF
| course, you know my position in the matter. Every
| body lays the blame on me- I've had the whole load
to far. am threatened with assassination,
Pm Gagged up here like tiger in menagere. enjoy
just about as much liberty; can't 60 out even az
night, and that's just when l want to 60 about
| little, without running pretty considerable risk
| or getting shot for the doings OF other people.
Now I've stood this just about long enough,
and Pm determined not to stand IL any longer I'm
just going to make clean breast OF 1t and expose
| the parties who got up the ''corner.v can make
Rome howl at somebody else besides me-somebody
| you would never suspect OF being connected with
this affair." have q most astounding revelation to
make; but before do SO. you must promise that 1t
snail be published. II the HERALD WON'T publish 1t,
shall give 1t to one OF the other papers. You saw
the Tribune man waiting. I've got the other re-
porters here too. They'd publish anything but then
they represent parties, and people would think it
an election dodge II they brought 1t out Now the
HERALD being the leading paper, and the only one
that Is independent, should prefer you publishing
tit would have more weight them"
After much fencing, our reporter allowed himself
to be 'tckled" 30 extensively by the Princes high
opinion OF the HERALD that he promised tue state
ment should be published. Fisk was so eager to
cincn this bargain that he forgot to ask when his
astounding disclosures were to be made public.
Under the impression that 1t would appear In the
next Issue the Admiral made the following verbal
statement
do not deny that was interested in the "cor-
ner." Myself and my partner, Could were In the
"ring." Now, then, we are spectators. had
nothing to do with the concoction OF the "corner''
IL was all fixed before l was let into the
secret Now, 10 you or does any one else
imagine that we should have rsked millions, as we
did, unless we had positive assurance that the gov
ernment would not interfere with our operations
OF course We should not ANY one can see that.
Well, then, now tell you that we had something
more than an assurance to that effect Mere as
surance would not have been sufficient. Members of
the Presidents family were in with us. The Presi-
dent himself interested with us In the corner.
This astonishes you, does 1t not2
REPoRTER-Well, must confess it does, slightly.
FIsK-Slightlyl Ahl you suspected it, them
1t was Fisks audacity in making such charge
which occasioned the slight astonlshment.
FIsK-I told you / could make Rome howl, didn't
IL Well, won't that be SUFFICIENT to make Grant
tremble In his boots
REPoRTER-We shall see. Do you mean to assert
that President Grant was aware OF the nature OF
your intended operations to bull god9
FsK-Why, OF course he was, anu with him mem.
bers Of his FAMILY and parties holding high Offices
And now will tell you how it originated and VINO
started 1t. 1t was planned by Jay Gould and Abel
r. Corbn, President Grants brother-in-law. Why
damn 1t old Corbin married into Grants family for
the purpose Of working the thing in that direction
That's all he married for this last time. Corbin's
next move was to secure his son-inlaw's appoint
ment to the Sub-Treasury Of New York. His son-in-
law, R. B. Cathwood, you know. Ultimately Corbin
got Catnwood to withdraw in favor OF General But
terneld, ON condition that Cathwood should have
one-quarter Of the profits Next the Tenth
National Bank was bought, for purpose which
need not now be explained, 1t being Comparatively
unmportant point: The nrst thing did In the mat
ter was to sound the President had several inter-
views with him on the subject aud finally, with
Corbin's influence, everything was arran ged and we
set to work.
On Icing questioned az to his motive for exposing
mis- alleged confederates Mr.. Fisk replied with much
feelng:-
"Because they went back ana came near
rulnlng us. They would have ruined us had we not
been smar,er than chain-ghtnlng and managed
to turn when the log turned. We risked millions
on the assurance that the government would not In.
terfere. Grant got scared however, when the crisis
came, and gave Boutwell, Instructions TO SELL And now
pll tell you what scared Grant. Kimoer man who
was in the pool with us, backed out at the last
ment. He sold out and got short. Discovering that
he had deceived us Gould "put up goldn on him and
broke him. Then Kimber leaked. Kmber's state
ment was telegraphed on to Grant, and the result
was BOutwell's order to sell. Now, up to the time
the government interfered with our operations 1
held in my hands the cards for fifteen Millions and
should have made that had they let us alone that
day. But the crash came before had made nine
millions even. Now, you are surprised that should
be willing to expose the other parties engaged in
thls transaction. see no reason Tor shielding
them. AS l said before, I've borne the
entire load long enough, and now my
life is in danger and I'm going to make
them take their share OF the responsibility Another
thing am speculator. There's nothing wrong
that can see In my being connected with the
ring but l don't know about Corbin, Grant and
the rest OF them. Guess they've been going little
out OF their line, amt they. What do you thinki
Won't this statement make Rome howl, aye"
REpoRTER-So astounding q statement as this
must be supported by proofs-strong proofs, some.
thing In the way Of combination strong as holy
writ,n Mr.. Fisk. Can you show me anything in that
liner
After requiring and receiving pledge Of strict
secrecy the Prince OF Erie submitted his 'proofs.n
They VIII speak for themselves. however, and the
perusa OF this secret history will enable the public
to estimate their exact worth
The above conversation contains the sum AMI sub.
stance OF Mr.. Fsk's first astounding disclosures.
The interview took place on the night OF ednesday
the 29th ult.
THE CLUE.
There was great deal more in Flsk's mares nest
than he imagined. 1t gave clue which has led to
the unravelIing OF the entire mystery. 1t not only
revealed the source OF the strange rumors which
had been industriousy circulated, but 1t revealed
the object at which the sanderers Of the President
were aiming. Fisk may be an adept at manipuat-
ing gold Stocks shares and all that kind OF thing,
but he has q great deal to learn before he can
manipulate the HERALD. He was rash enough to
essay the latter task however but for the matter OF
that he is rash enough for anything On calling at
the Erie oflce for the further information promised
on the morning OF tho Soth OF september, Mr.. Fisk
led the writer from the ofIlce to the theatre and