Orleans independent standard. [volume] (Irasburgh, Vt.) 1856-1871, 1869-04-20
Catholics and the Bible.

Luther in his last article says that
as far as the Roman Catholic side OF
the discussion is concerned, the ques-
ton is merely question about words.
He is beginning to find out that he
has got himself into a bad spot, and
would like to screen from the eyes OF
the public a shameful retreat.
shall, with Gods help, and with
out any amount of puzzling proof,
meet him On every point, but one
thing at a time. shall not allow him
to wander about from one point to
another. without making his proof
convincing to others as we'll as to him.
self. l see plainly he does not wish
to be questioned. He always finds
it easier to question than to answer.
| shall return to my starting point.
We are not forbidden to read the BIZ
ble here. The Bible in our hands is
not to he looked upon as struggled
goods or rot-gut, wide Luther'S first
article.)
This was my proposition. Luther
calls it a collateral point, and Of no
Importance, but he gives it this name
only at the eleventh hour. He main.
tanned the contrary from the begin
ming and by so doing he proved one
thing and one thing only, his igno
rance of what he spoke, and if he does
not consider himself beaten on this
point, | shall ask him to tell me wher
do laws become binding either of
church or state, and to his silly quo
tation from G. which neither he
nor | ever read, that ignorance of law
does not excuse. will reply yes
ignorance of law that exists only ii
the brain Of the law makers excuses
but does not excuse when promulga
ted. The laws God gave to Nose,
for his people became binding on thu
people when proclaimed by Noses
Will you admit this proposition, Luth
err? If not, will appeal to any three
judges of the courts Of the United
States, and if they say that a mere
knowledge Of law becomes binding
before its prOmulgation, | shall retrac
all have said and consider myself
beaten. Is this fair? The American
people love fair play. Be homes
once in your life; if you know tn
truth be not ashamed to proclaim it t.
the people; give not lies as truth
this is all | ask.
Secondly, you maintained that wha
l. we read as the Bible is not the Bible
from the very fact that it contain
notes and comments given as huma
authority. | said it was the Bibl
with these notes separated from tn
text, and that as long as the tran:
| lation was genuine, and the book
9 given from Genesis to Revelation,
must be and necessarily is the wOr
of God. These two questions wer
all that | embraced. Are they ADM
ted ? When you say so, | shall pre-
coed to your question, the Pope c
b Roman Catholic church the enemy 0
the Bible, and these two proposition
admitted, | will tell you that in Spai
the Bible is read, and that Cathol
children who know their catechisu
know more Christian truth than yo
/ were ever able to pick from the Bib
and that intolerance in Spain has q
little to DO with the Bible, as it ha
IN New York some seventy years ag
e where Catholic worship was not to
= Grated, and as little to do with it ;
t it has in Norway and Sweden an
o even in England in which enlightene
j. country some ten millions of Cath
lies are taxed for the support of II
Il ministers of a denomination they hat
+ Will YOU attribute this to the readiI
of the Bible? Allow me to tell yt
that the first state in the Union whel
j. liberty of conscience was proclaime
/. was Maryland settled by Catholic
= You put me in mind sometimes,
your writings, Of the Scotch womt
y when asked what she did believe.
!. know no. what do believe, but
}. hate Popery." Ireckon this is near
o your belief.
r The Catholic church cherished t
D, Bible before your sect had existenC
e and it is because she loves it, that s.
d wishes to preserve h er childr
:e against corrupted texts got up for t
1t purpose of destroying faith and me
d, ais, breathing hatred and strife al
IS destroying christianity which is cha
ity and love. The fruits of such wor
le bear upon them the stamp of Sat
1t rather than that of Christ, and shou
e. be put down not only by Pope CT
gory's bull but by every honest al
= upright man, whether minister or la
lie man. Their object is ruin. For pro-
| would refer you to a work recent
published, called Plain Talk on Pr
Y estantism; or, Groupings after Trut
il by a New England minister. Y
a. can purchase them at any Catho
rs book store. wish you to leave pr
t. udices aside; they are a bad help
u seeking or making known truth.
Luther, one word more and | W
&c bid you good night and wish God
t. keep you from dreaming on Poper
Your vile attack on Pope Plus TX,
s. as harmless as your writings and W
- not prevent him from being even
u his old age surrounded by the aft
IL tions of two hundred millions of Ca
olics scattered through every COUNT
III protesting the same religion, admitti
L. and receiving the same sacramen
u obeying in religious matters the sal
u shepherd, Pope Plus TX.
10 A big Scotchman when asked W
" he allowed his wife, a little woms
to beat him, answered, at pleas
-, her and no hurt re-" 1t pleases V
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