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JAY COOKE q co. quote government securities az
folows:-U. S. 6s OF 1881, 119@119A; b-2Os OF 1884,
liidSll4A; do, 1864, l12A@1lZ9; do, 1885, 113&@
SS SS July lSSs S9SiH DO So 1sS
1O92l Cur, 6s, 1OSs{@109. Gold, 1919.
MEssRs WILLIAM PAINTER d. Co., Mo- 86 s. Third
street, report the following quotations ~. s. Is OF
1881, l19@11sh; b-20s OF 1862 114@114A; do. 1864,
ll2@112A do; 1865, 1124@l12,s; do July, 1865,
iss s9 3Sy iSo sS$al' Sss d. July
weak.
MEssRs DE HAVEN BROTHER, 40 No. 8 Third
street. Philadelphia, report the following quotatons
u; ss & Of 1851, l1s15@lls; do: 1852, 1l4@l14A; /;
new, 114%@ll5; do 1867, do ll5A @l15M; do 1885,
do, 115h@1lo2s; l0-4os, 1O9N@lOs1l; q. s. 80 Year
per cent Currency, 10S@l09; Due Comp Int.
Notes, 10; Gold, 121 29122; Silver, l200S12lb.
-NARR d LADNER, Bankers report this mornings
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FROM THE WEST INDIES.

Cuban Supplies Seized by the English Authori-
ties.
NEW YORK, Dec. 15-Advces from Jamaica
state that there were so boxes and cases landed
at Port Maria, 3S of which contained powder,
cartridges, and percussion caps, few cases of
snider rifles and several of clothing, accoutre-
ments, etc., all destined for the Cuban insur-
gents. They were seized by the British authori-
tiaa
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FROM THE WEST.
Arrest of a shover of cine Queer

CINCINNATI, Dec. 15.-This morning the police
arrested man for drunkenness, who gave his
name as J. w. Lane, and found on him $50 in
genuine money, $50 in counterfeit, and also a
circular letter from Wagan & Co., No. 7S Nassau
street. New York, informing him that they sold
counterfeit money at low rates, SO well executed
as to deceive the Government Treasury detec-
tives.
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FROM NEW YORK.
Obituary.

New YORK, Dec. 15.-Generd William r.
Brewster. formerly commander of the Excelsior
Brigade, died on Monday night In Brooklyn.
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LATEST SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE
Eor addittoral Mart,,e Ne.os see z, side Paoes.

(By Telegraph)
NEW YORK. Dec. l5Arrived steamship oimbria, from
Also arrived steamship Pennsylvania, from Liverpool
FoRTREss MONROE Dec. l5-Arrved, barque Gam
Also arrived schr Mary X. Mangan from New Grenada
(Bg AnsLoAnlertoan ClbIe)
Ta T Dec lS-Arrved' steamship BorussiA,
PORT OF PHILADELPHIA, 49,. DECEMBER Is.
STATE OF THERMOMETER AT THE EVENING TELEGRAPH
IA M....... 8aInA M d. 40 sP M.........H
CLEARED THIS MORNING.
Br: baTqno Satellite, Turner Barcelona, A. Merino
sehr Anna Myrick, Richards, BostOa via New CASTLE
sqhT EmSliPe Hnight Avery. NewOurypOrt via New
sGhr Star Qrowe' NewburypOrt. via New Castle, Del
% bsrseS % W p cyde '" CO. 0"''"0''' "''n . TO" OF
ARRIVED THIS MORNING.
Steamship Jnniata ao1ie from New Orleans viz Ha
vana days, with cotton etc. to Philadelphia and South
Ste s.sa%e1 Ssy Webb. ls hours from Baltimore with
Exams .s GsPfss 9fS
onSas Hook By SSis tow boat t. j. Christian Fowler
SGh
@ at brig Ga Sew VIZ fso
NorS. baraus Arcadia L4rssnl 50 days from London.
Brig 9Sn9p 20 dsS
fAsE ysst. g. days from Pensacola
Tug Hudson, Nicholson. from Baltimore with tow Of
barges to w. p. Clyde 90.
0peSRassssTS eSRssTSS ss r. McS2GGdsg MSGG 5i9gTfHH S9L1rrr
teSsG
New York tomorrow "Wednesday, including bargeB
that may arrive and those left from this days opera
tons. Barges moving rapidly through the Delaware
and Rartan canal The tow OF twenty ODD barges enter
ing this A. M will all be through to New Brunswick to-
morrow "Wednesday No ice embargo on Delaware and
Rartan canal. :.
will leave in the tow to-nght coal laden eleven for New
York and one for Chester. Pa we shall eAa three TO
Dell which viii probably be the last tow Of the season for
PSnIprIPMiA lp BRtScH oFrIoE. Dec. 1.-two baxsea
viii leave this port to-day for Baltimore, light.
Two barges, coal laden leave for New York to-day;
MEMORANDA.
Barque Eva. Daniels. for Philadelphia, sailed from
schS Sarah CLARK. Griffin hence. at Providence lsth
SchrS Lena Hume Appleby; Trade Wind, Oarson;
Tsaser, Inscot and Lizzie Maui Beuah hence. At BOa
on 18th inst.
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9. Astuto. "a. Indio.
10. Dorado. 25. Carbe.
II. Eco, 26. Aarma.
IL. Desteo. 27. DGscubridor.
13. Centiamaestra. 2S. Yumuri
ID. Marinero. 20. Flecha.
10. Solado. 80. DardO.
These names have not yet been put upon the boats
and will not be until their arrival at Havana. The
letters have been cast in composition and will screw
on each letter separately SO that II at any time it
is necessary for the boat to be incognted screw
driver will speedily do the business, or by change
in the position OF the letters change her name.
THE DEPARTURE DELAYED.
Owing to delay on the part Of the contractor the
coal has not been furnished fast required, and
from this cause the departure of the boats has been
delayed 1t is possible that they may get off on the
morrow, but perhaps not until the day after. The
engineers are ordered to get steam on them this
order to see for themselves that everything is In
working order; and the fires will be kept lighted
until their departure in order to keep the pumps
etc, free from ice.
TAKING THEIR PICTURES
The photographer was again at work yesterday
and will have views OF the boats in all POSITIONS
head on and stern on, as well broadside view
The pictures will show the bunts of the boats
square-sals of every conceivable shape, from the
long and tapering reaching clear out to the quarter
Of the yard to the short and stubby piled high up
amidships. In one particular however, they will all
be alike, for they all sag down well underneath the
yard.
ADEAD HORSE TAKEN FOR TORPEDO.
Much apprehension was felt on Monday night by
the officers of the boats in the stream on account Of
rumor which reached them to the effect that at
tempt to send torpedo among the neet would be
made. Whether the rumor was reliable or not can
not be ascertained, but it served to make the men
on the boats very watchful, and about A. M. yes
terday all hands were called to quarters, susp-
cious-look object having been observed drifting
down on the feet with the tide boat
Cautiously the trembling tars pulled up to the sup
posed internal machine, whichnseemed, as they ap-
preached ii, to emit most noXious efliuvia, when
on nearing it, it was found to be the harmless car
cass OF an old horse worn out In the service of the
BIeecker Street Railroad Company. Without stop
ping TO moraze the jolly tars, no longer trembling
pulled back and Quilted the alarm; the boat was
hoisted up, all hands were piped down, and slumber
settled over the gunboats till morning.
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An Indiana farmer keeps pair OF black snakes
In his barn, and 10 never troubled with vermin.
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SECOND EDITION
LATEST By THEuaRAPH.

The Governor Indefinitely Respites DR..
schoeppe-He will not be Hung
The Murderer Titus Is not
so Fortunate-Seizure
of Cuban Sup
plies.
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CLEARED THIS MORNING

STATE OF THERMOMETER AT THE EVENING TELEaRAPH
OFFICE
IA. M.......39I IL A. Nj. 4OI9P. M.... A
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them: However in making the alterations, n
chemical preparation was used which slightly
but visibly acted on the paper.
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Barque Eva. Daniels. for Philadelphia, sailed fror
SchT Sarah CLARK. Griffin. hence. at Providence ist
SchrS Lena Hume, Appleby; Trade Wind, Oarson
Tsaser Insco and Lizzie Maui Beulah. hence. At bOa
on 18th inst.
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Allegheny Cattle Market.
AL1RGHENY. March 10.

ALLRG HENY. March 10.
CATTLE-The supply on Monday was
not up to that OF last week, only 1877 to
900, but the market seemed to drag,
and there was not that buoyancy and ac-
tiVity which usually prevails when the
number on sale is so small. The butch
ers, from some cause or other, did not
take hold very freely, and although
there was very fair attendance, they
seemed to be very timid and hesitated
more than usual-perhaps they thought
that by holding back they might be
able to do better. AS already intima-
ted, however. all kinds OF stock were
held at full prices, and both buyers and
sellers knew that the number on sale
was too small to expect any decline,
Notwithstanding, the market was dull
and sluggish one. The great proportion
OF the stock was from Chicago, and as
general thing, about up to the usual
standard in regard to quality. Prime
to extra Cattle may be quoted at SaS15c,
good to medium at 63a711c; and stock
ers at 5a6c. Fresh Cows range all the
way from $40aS0 per head. Bulls un.
changed at 5a6c.
SHEEP-There was an unusually
small number of sheep on sale Monday,
only about 400 head, and with Il fair
retail demand the market was very
firm and prices fully sustained. The
demand, however, has fallen off won
derfully within the past two or three
months, which is owing to the advanced
prices having retired nearly all the
"curb stone" butchers, they not being
able to stand the advance. Prices
ranged from Az to Sc y tb, gross.
HoGs-The market was very quiet;
the demand being light and entirely of
retail character. Prices we're about
the same as last week, ranging from lila
l3c gross-as to quality-some few
choice, perhaps, brought quarter or
half cent p 10 more.
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The New Capital of West virginia.
The selection of Charleston. Kama

The selection of Charleston, Kama
wha, as the capital of West Virginia. is
a wise act OF the Legislature OF that
State. 1t is sufficiently central, and
will, when the Chesapeake and Ohio
Railroad is finished; be the most access
sible of all the towns spoken of III the
debate on the subject. With reference
to the future policy of the State, It's in
fluence, as far as mere location can
exert an influence, will be good. 1t Will
be genuinely Virginian, and thus will
bear with increased force and enterprise
upon the improvement of the State.
One reason why this locality is agreea-
BILE to us is that the old State and the
new will be brought more directly into
inter. accommodation, and will be able
to cultivate mutual interests TO better
advantage, and prepare the way TO that
ultimate reunion which we hope to see.
1t would be, we believe, happy for both,
and blot out of the map what we consider
the wrongs of the war, by which a
State which gave several empires to the
nation Is not allowed to retain her own
boundaries. A reunion, with StauntOn
as the seat of Government-nay, we
would take Charleston-wOuld be hail
ed with satisfaction by the best portion
ofthe people of both States.-RichmOnd
Dispatch.
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1he seerect OF ,he CnbInet.

How well Grant kept the secret of the
Cabinet is shown by a story concerning
Mr.. Borie, the Secretary OF the Navy.
Mr.. Borie went on to Washington to see
the Inauguration of the new President,
but without the slightest thought or de-
sire of call to the Cabinet. He called
on the President on the afternoon of the
4th of March, and found him at work
In his Office. "Ah, Mr.. Borie," said
Grant, shave you come on, too, to spy
out the Cabinet?" "Not at ALL" replied
Mr.. Borie; 81 came only to see you
sworn in as President, and have called
to offer my friendly congratulations be-
fore returning home." when do you
retarn ?" asked Grant. "To- morrow,
in the noon train," said Borie." "Well,
goodbye" said the President, "make
my regards to your family" Mr.. BOrie
bowed himself out, and did not suspect
that he was the "mAn from Pennsylva-
nia," until the next afternoon, when
the train stopped at Wilmington, and
he heard his name read out 10 an eager
crowd at the depot. AS that of the Secre-
tary OF the Navy.
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tion, at one OF the river stations, they
were so boisterous, and made them
selves SO offensive to the passengers.
The continued growth of this new
sentiment concerning politics and
office holding must certainly prove
fatal, sooner or later, to Democratic in-
stitutiOns. Unless arrested, corruption
will ultimately sap the very founda-
tions of our Government. The work of
arresting it devolves upon us all indi-
vidually. One thing is very certain,
there are public stations, and they
must be filled. The machinery OF Ma
tional, State, and local organizations
must be run. If good men do not per-
form the work, bad men will. We must,
as people, devote more of our time
and thoughts to the purifying of our
politics and the securing ofupright, ca
pable, and honest men for public posi-
tions. We cannot stand aloof and ex-
pect to see such positions wOrthily fill
ed. 1t will not do for US to think and
speak of politics and politicians con-
temptuOusly.
The very existence of representa-
tive government implies the existence
of political parties. The existence of
political parties implies the existence
OF politicians. The ADLER, more up
right and more skilled the latter are,
the better will be our government. To
secure the best of material. we must
give an undivided attention TO politics,
recognize and reward those proven to
have been honest and capable, and
thereby render the pursuit of politics
an honora BILE and desirable calling.
The study OF the science of govern
ment is the study of lifetime. No
matter what may be ones natural quail
itications. long years of study and ex-
perience are required to develop states
men. And to statesmen thus developed
we must look for the successful carry
ing on of public affairs. In mon
archical countries the ruling class
are trained from childhood for
the duties which await them. 1t
has often been suggested that
there should be a ruling class in
this country, body of men especially
set apart, by appointment or otherwise,
who shall fit themselves TO hold offices.
This by no means, however, is neces-
sary or desirable. There will here and
there be brought to the surface, mid
the commotion of political life, states
men, whose claims to such title will be
readily recognized. These men, versed
in the science of government, familiH-
rized with all the intricacies of internR-
tional and other law, and having an
intimate knowledge of the past legisla-
ton OF our own and other Governments,
cannot be spared from the councils of
the nation If we would have affairs con-
Quoted smoothly. Their expansive
knowledge and judgment are not only
invaluable, but absolutely essential.
The more we honor such men the
greater becomes the Inducements and
stimulus for public men TO achieve
craftsmanship.
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Politics and statesmanshIp.

From the ". Y. Commercial Advertiser.
For some time the impression has
been steadily gaining ground in the
country adverse 10 the study or pursuit
of politics. Years ago the occupancy
OF official positions WAS regarded in the
most laudable light. 1t was the ambi-
tion OF our youth to fill such positions.
They aspired to public places OF honor
and trust, and their aspirations were
encouraged and stimulated by their
fathers. Young men pursued cole. coaie.
giate course, and in other ways sought
10 tit themselves for entering the politi-
cal arena and advancing in political
life, Owing, however, to the political
corruption now and then revealed IN
politics, to the great opportunities Tor
making money in this country, and to
other reasons, public opinion has, du-
ring late years, been undergoing a
change concerning the desirability OF
engaging in politics. Those who, from
education, would be particularly fitted
to engage in matters OF state alter the
necessary training and experience, now
enter mercantile pursuits ana deVote
them selves to money getting. tatners
and friends advise them to steer clear
of politics. The holding of a position
in National or State Councils. mas
ceased to be regarded as a high
honor. Our legislative bodies are too
often spoken of with contempt, while
the caucus gathering Is alluded to with
| derlsion.
The influence OF such a sentiment
necessarily manifests itself in keeping
| good men from politics; and the evil
results are to be seen on every hand.
Unworthy characters find their way
into Congress. individuals notorious.
ly bad become our lawgivers. AS the
| idea of honor becomes less and less as.
ISOLATED with oficeholding, men come
10 look upon 1t from a financial stand
noint. and crowd into our State Legis-
istures simply to sell their votes and
grab all the public funds they can lay
hold of. Our local politics become
thoroughly corrupt; good and upright
men stay away from the ward meetings
and nominating assemblies, and limit
their political labors to voting the ticket
which is placed in their hands on cleo
tion day. All the local work 1s thus
lett to inferior men and unprinciple1
characters to perform. AS Is wei,
known, jail birds, prize fighters, ano
ruf1ians OF every description very ire
Quently exercise a controlling influence
in the ward politics of our city. 1t was
but few months since that the captain
of a Hudson steamer was nearly per
suaded to put of the entire New YORK
delegation, eN route to State ConVen'
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BY TELEGRAPH.
CONG r ES 5.
SENATE.
WASHINGTON. March 10.

WASHINGTON, March 10.
Mr.. Sumner presented the petitions
of the Republican State Council of Vir-
ginia, representing that the command
ing officer in Virginia does not pay
proper attention to the applications OF
colOred men for offices, and asking that
they may have their due share OF the
State offices. Referred to the Judiciary
Committee.
Mr.. Thayer called up the bill to re-
peal the tenure of Office act.
Mr.. Trumbull was in favor of early
action on the subject, but as there was
a similar bill with on amendment pend
ing in the Judiciary Committee, he
thought this had better go to COM
mittee, he therefore moved its refer
euce.
Mr.. Thayer opposed the motion, and
said the subject had already been so
much considered by the Senate and
country that reference was wholly un-
necessary.
Mr.. Edmunds thought that the Sen
ate ought not to be in haste to dtYest
itself Of one of its great constitutional
powers. It's action on this bill would
be of great importance not merely for
the present but for the future.
Mr.. Howard also thought that the
measure required careful and cautious
deliberation, and he did not feel Will.
ing to surrender this great constitu-
tional conservative power OF the Senate.
Mr.. Williams took the same view OF
the bill which had passed the House
under the operation of the previous
question, and it had not yet received
proper consideration.
MIR. Grimes thought that every Sena-
tor knew as much about the subject as
he could possibly learn from the Judi-
ciarY Committee, and he was therefore
opposed TO the motion to refer.
Mr.. Mcdonald having full confidence
in the wisdom and integrity OF the
President, was in favor of repeating the
act.
Mr.. Harlan was in favor of the un-
conditional repeal OF the law, bnt pro-
posed that the bill should first be con-
sidered by the Judiciary Committee.
Mr.. Pomeroy thought the bill had
better go to the Committee iu the regu-
lar way.
ought to be free to discuss his subordi-
mates without embarrassment or delay,
and he believed this bill could as we'll
be acted upon to-day as any othsr
time.
Mr.. Morton feared if the bill was
referred it would not be acted upon this
session
Mr.. Conkling favored the reference of
the bill to the Committee. The bill was
then referred to the Judiciary Commit
tee. Yeas-34. Nays-25.
Mr., Williams moved to take ~up tho
bill to strengthen public credit, 80 that
it might come up tomorrow as un~
finished business. Carried.
Adjourned.
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MEXICO.
HAVANA, March 8


Telegrams from the City of Mexico,
dated the 81 inst, have been received
here by the Vera Cruz steamer, and
contain the following news:
Executions had become frequent In
the country, and created general pub,
lie dismay. On Monday, the first OF
March, President Juarez had forbid
them, and ordered the officers to bring
their prisoners to the capitol for trial:
1t was rumored that man named
Mayer, late of the United States army,
had been shot, but 1t had since been as
certained that he had been sent TO Mexl-
CO to be tried.
Gen. Negrete had not been found. 1t
is limited that his defeat was not so
complete as was reported.
Romero writes to friend that the
opposition after fomentinE the rebellion
now clamor for change in the Minis
try. Their motives are lgnOble. They
represent only a minority of the nation.
The President heeds them not.
Escobedo had defeated tho bandit
Canale. and in TamaulipAs tho rebel
bands had also been routed.
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COMMERCIAL AND FINANCIAL.
WneeIing wholesale Market.
WEDNESDAY EVENING,
NarNh IN 1850

March 10, 1869.
APPLEs-Green Apples are selling at
from SS so to 81 SO per barrel form store,
for common to choice.
BEANs-$3 per bushel.
BUTTER-Prices dull. We quote
prime at 35c.
CoFFEE-Market firm, with good de-
mand. We quote Rio at 22a26c for
prime.
CANDLEs-City mould tallow 15Xci
Star 22a25c.
COTTON YARNs-Standard 45c; Cotton
Batting 23a3Oc; Candle Wick 45c; Cotton
Twine 45c.
CARBON OIL-May now be quoted at
SIC, and charge for barrels.
CHEEsE-Scarce and price advanced
to l9c for Western Reserve, and 22c for
Factory.
Eaes-In good supply; fresh quoted
at 18c.
FLoUR-The market continues dull
with a downward tendancy. Wequote
superfine at SIS 90; red wheat family at
81 90; fancy at 50 25. Rye Flour at 81 co.
FIsH-Mackeral-No 2 half bbl 50 75
No. large IS SO: No. 8 medium 81 75
Lake Heron. half bbl, 81 75a5 90. Lab
rador Herring-$l1 so.
FEATHERs-Live geese feathers quot
ed at 75c.
GRA1N-Wheat-Sl 45a1 so for No. l
red; 81 Goal rs for No. white. Corn
6Sa72c. Oats-DuIl and unchanged at
65a7Oc. Rye-Steady at 81 2sa1 80
Barley-In better demand at 81 s5a2 co.
G1NsENa-75c per lb.
HAY-Baled Hay dull and unchang-
ed. Loose sells at S2Oa25 90 for good to
fair quality.
LARD OIL-Firm at 81 70.
LARD-Leaf. in Tierces zoe; kegs 22c.
MoLAssEs-Unchan at 75aS0c for
New Orleans; 75c for Porto Rico; SOa9Oc
for Baltimore Syrup, 65a7Oc for New
York Syrup.
PRoVIsIoNs-Dull and not much do
ing. Mess Pork $32 90; shoulders 1411c;
clear rib sides, l7Ac; clear sides, 1Shc;
sugar cured hams, zoe; family hams,
19c; break fast bacon, 1870.
SUGAR-MArket firm and prices ad-
| VanCeus we HuOlo CEuSueu hI ZUcS a
coffee l9c; B coffee 1870; G extra 18Hc;
New Orleans, 14a16c; Porto Rico, 14al5c;
Cuba 13Ha144c: Demarara, 16a17c.
PoTAToEs-Dull with small sales in
store at 8Oa90c per bushel.
R1oE-Rangoon 10Hc; Carolina 111zc.
SoDA-Bi-carbonite soda 7a7hc sal
soda &c; soda in papers 1Oc.
STARCH-Fox's Sc; Glen Cove 1910;
Maizena, 1870.
SALT-Dairy So 70; Ohio River 81 G4.
SEEDs-Timothy-$3 74a4 90. Glover
$40 5Oa11 so. FIax-S2 OOa2 10.
SoAr-Family5 SIC; German &c; East
ern Family 1Oa13c.
SHOT AND LEAD-Bar lead 121Ic; Shot
SO 20 per bag.
TEA-Gunpowder Tea, 81 40A1 rs;
Young Hyson Tea, 81 41a1 go; Black
Tea, 90caSl 10.
TOBACCO Navy tobacco 70a72c; dark
los and rs 7Oa72c; bright rs and los
SOC; fig lump 81 10; Garrett's snuff 7Sc;
Garrett's snuff in boxes IS so.