Rutland weekly herald. [volume] (Rutland, Vt.) 1859-1877, 1869-03-25

he was IN jail, 1 caused Horace 10 Writc
letter to Warner Aldrich, told him that
Shippy said If he would bail him out, he
would work for him a year; nothing was
said between Shippy and me in regard TO his
being witness, or about his going TO get
into the employ of Balch, or to go and talk
with Quarter, l have seen Napoleon st.
Peters in jail: 1 talked with him about the
fight by the school house on the 2lst of
June; l know boy by the name of Shehan;
I don't know when he went from the Jail;
measures were taken to see what the Squiers
boy knew about this fight; this was some
time in the course of the winter; did not
know what the Squires would testify to;
had not been told; my son George, my
son George, my wife and daughters had
been to the Jail several times before took
measures to see what the Squires boy would
say; have got an impression that report
was made to me that the Squires boy didn't
known anything about it Col. Joyce
brought me this report; | knew he was an
eye witness; | don't know as Squires was
requested to be where the fight took place;
he came of his own accord; | rather think
saw him at the Jail before he was sent to
Waterbury; I don't know as | had a talk
with him understood he was sent to
Waterbury; think my folks informed me;
| don't know as my folks told me that
Sauires would be a good witness FOR me,
and ought to be used well; Geo. Sawyer is
relative of my wife; he is a half broth
err; | was witness before The magistrates
don't think | offered any explanation of
this transaction then such as | have sworn
to here; Horace and Frederick did not offer
any such explanation, as | know off; |
know VIM. Shippy; | don't know as saw
him a few days before John Gilman, Jr.,
came home did not say to him " If John
Gilman, Jr., came home, he would not live
three days"
George Sacyer, being sworn, testified: |
reside in Pittsfield, | am a half brother of
Mrs. Plumley; l was at their house the
Tuesday or Wednesday after the aifray; |
saw Abraham Squires there that day, at
Ziba Plumley's; when | went from home, |
stopped at George Plumey's and he went
up there with me; Elam Clark was there;
Plumley's and Butterfly's folks were there;
Elan Clark asked the Squires boy to tell
his story about the killing ofJohn Gilman,
Jr., and be went on to tell; he
said he and Ziba Plumley, Fred
eriell Pumlcy and Geo. Butterfly went
down then and he said that Frederick lIor-
ace and himself and John Gilman was in Mr..
Plumlev's lot; he said that one of them, |
think Frederick, asked John if he would
not 20 out of the lot, and he said he was
going out; he said Fred. and Horace were
pretty nigh him, and John Gilman, Jr took
hold of Horaces gun and undertook 10 take
it out of his hand; he said that Horace told
him to let 20 of his gun; he didn't; and
Horace pulled the gun away from him, and
Gilman put his hand 10 his pocket, rs he
supposed to get his pistol; Their he said
Horace shot him; he said a man by name
of VIM shot Horace while John Gilman
Jr. had hold of his gun; shot him in his
leg; he said Mr.. Plumley was there; he
came there on horse; | asked him if Ziba
told Horace to shoot; he said he did not,
but that Zibe said g for Gods sake don't
shoot" after the hearing here at the Town
Hall | went down 10 Plumley's, the Squires
boy then said Sanderson took him up TO
Balch's TO see Fisher and that after he told
his story Fisher told him that if that was
all he was going to swear to he didn't want
him.
CrosslraiaiadtioR. | have not read or
heard read the testimony in the daily Her
aid; | heard the testimony of Isaac ii
Balch; Geo. Plumley went with me TO the
old gentleman Mrs. Wilkins was not pres
ent; she was there the next time went out !;
+ this conversation was about noon; il was
before dinner; we did not stay but a little
while after dinner; | got there at half past
ten or eleven clock; | read the testimony
in the Weekly Herald Of last week; Clark
asked the boy TO tell his story; he said he
had heard the other side talk; don't think
rs | asked about it; know MIR. Clark asked
to hear the story; | know he said he had
heard the other side; Il woman was there
she came about eleven O'Clock with David
Oney; Elam Clark took dlnner-Mr. Clark
asked the boy TO tell his story, and he went
on TO tell-he said he and Horace and Fred
and Johnny Gilman, were in the meadow
that Frederick or Horace told JOHNNY to 20
out OF the meadow, and he said he was
going-(witness here relates the converse
ton rs in his direct eXamination) | think
lp SniI " tr.I Hyb Inbnn,- W.. HI
of Horace's gun-he did not say that after
Winn fired and wounded Horace in the leg
Horace drew up his gun and then John
slezed the gum don't rccollcct rs any
questions were asked him except the gene
raj request that he would 20 on and relate
the mattcr-there was no discussion Of the
matter-there might have been something
said about having heard different ac-
count what Ire said about going
up 10 Balch's was afterwards -
it was down to Horace's; Clark was NOT
there, might have arrived at half past ten
or eleven o'clock, and went away before
one; left Clark there | think; | can't tell
whether tie Squircs boy set down To dinner
with us: this talk was in the room where
we took dinner: | think Clark set down TO
dinner with the rest | was present ut the
examination in Rutland, part of the time:
have never said ANYTHING TO Mr.. Piumlcv
about this conversation; the day the Grand
Jury were in the jail, Frederick asked me TO
be here to the court: the first | told ct this
conversation was week before last :ColIoyce
sent for me TO come TO his office: and my
wife stopped at the jail the next morning
after the examination, aud we talked with
them | am positive | never said anything
to Ziba and Horace about it.
At this point the Court took 4 recess
until , o'clock, Z NJ
AFTERNOON
Froirjrh Pnniey being sworn, tc,ti-
fed | am % years old l. have always
lived at home with my father; tither's
farm and mine were Joined together mine
was where the corutield WIS; Charlie
Lewis. George Butterfly and Abraham
Squire worked for Us last summer
George and aud Abraham Squiers We're
in the frld moving on the 1>t day of Au-
gust last: ia the afternoon Charlie Lewis
ana | won't into the pasture aud went to
moving brakes | knew OF the appraiser
being there that day to apFrll>e dam
ages / WAS moving when they started
Off .bons ) O'clock | heard George Bait
tcrfly's wife call to me, she wanted
should come and 90 down to the corn
field and help hunt up George; | went
down: no one else called to me- George
4
to the house saw my fi-hcr about half
wiz down to the forks Of the road: / fol
lowed on after him; ! came UP with him
near the forks of the road George But
terhy's wife was with me; she was just
ahead of me; she went through pair o.
bars To the right, then by the forks Of
the rad kept right on down the road
toward the school house; we met Allen
Sanaer-on; the Spurs boy came up with
me while | was talking with San1erson
after finishing my conversation with hlm
went on toward the school house, and
turned on to the west road | met Mr.
Gimln, ST, and Mr.. VIM on that road
/ passed Mr.. VIM and Mr.. Gilman;
then. went up the road and got over the
fence on the right hand side, ON the west
side Of the bars; when | got over int
the field | saw Napoleon Quarter