The New York herald., 1869-09-14


Prince NAroLEoNs;o. 1t Is not and it ought to be.
for no doubt should exist ON tho subject have an
other defect 10 ponG out aud II concerns TIE opSin
and composition OF the senate. deslre Tor tnis
Chamber 4 thorough participation with other IN
the legislative power Appfehens0ns entertained
by some persons as 90 the future have been spoken
OF. Well, In my eyes, II black spot exists on the
horizon II Is the danger which would be created Dy
the omnipotent Isolation OF single Chamoer-a con-
venti0n IN presence OF a Casir. 1 should pre-
fer for the Senate complete legislative power
rather tnan an ulus0ry constituent one. The
a,ef sa 9asn. 20 De shared y 'ne EmPeror asa aa
subtle distinctions and imaginary demarcatiOns OF
attributions. In my view constitution ought 10
CONSIST or small number OF essential principles,
such us the form Of the government ana The choice
OF tile dynasty, while questions OF mere constitu-
tlonal mechanism only secondary in importance.
The best regime for country Is "a little theory as
possible and u judlclOus application Of wnat has
beel decided on AS 10 tile composition OF tins AS
sebly shall cnly say that in order 10 give strength
to an institution you must go to the source OF Its
orce Election IS certainly more powerful tnan any
fertile soil universal suffrage more favorable TO
the vgor OF any body Than the mere brilliant sand
Germs the Senate 1 will describe what Its position
Will be alter the Ss',dtus Cotsultuna. The members
are named exclusively by the Emperor; his
aiaesty can preside over the sttlngs II lie
thinks proper (SSiidiuS CoNsulttt,n Of 1859;
l. possesses not only permanent constituent
power Dug IN case dissolution or the legislative
body and the c)nvocation OF the new One--a period
which might extend Cd Six nlontas-it Is invested
with the right OF providing FOR Gil legislative neces
such privileges are eXorbltant aud embarrassing,
ard TO make use OF them would be o dangerous eX.
tremity. Those powers alarm me, 1 avOw, and
would recommend their Abandonment. arrive ut
another point. see by the Journals tna an amend
ment had bsen presented ASKING Tor the suppression
OF the Seaat,G Co,sstttun which prohibits the dis
cussOn Of the constitution. l entlrely agree with
that demand, for consider that the duty OF every
good citizen requires him to take an Interest in
politics. Indifference in such matters Is dangerous
Tor country should also desire modification
OF the arucles regarding the nomination Of
n -ynd
the cleo oral Circum5cripCl0ns. (Murmur5.) The
number OF members ought to be augmented
and the reimbursement adopted as the basis OF
electoral districts. | shall not dwell upon Tue in-
Of the present system; they involve an
anachronism wn1cn lngat become DANGEROUS TO those
who employ It, / now come to another and graver
point: / aliude TO municipal reform (NOise.)
share the opinion OF those who advocate the elec-
tion OF the mayors by the municipal councils, or, II
you are disposed TO go SO far, ask Tor ie sup
preston OF tic article Which enables the Emperor
to select those funcsionarles outside OF the local
body and also desire that the proceedings OF the
latter should be made puollc Those are the prin-
cipal points which 4 summit TO the examination OF
cussing the constitutional obstacles which oppose
the foundation Of that dream OF my life, liberal
empire Hereafter wneh we come 10 the discussion . s,s
such as the suppression OF what remains Oh the law
on general safety the abolition or article 70 OF the
Constitution Of Year V!l; b!i on the administra-
ton OF the city OF Pati5 one on the relations or
Church ana State; OH primary, gratuit0us and obi.
gatory instruction; on the liberty Of superior teach
ing: on Recommendations on the emancipation of
the citizen on the reduction OF expenditure and on
foreign policy Then viii come the real struggle,
and we snail see all ancient abuses and superannu
ated practices vanish the mission Of TIE empire IS
TO 90 actdt no Ote,' government has been able TO
do-aoaa not ,o Ase e & asa do 10 @seD.1 nd Seos @o
cratic aspiration. Do not allow yourselves to
be frightened by the spectre Rouge aud other well
known evOcations. The best method OF combating
revolutions Is to adopt what Is good III Gaem and
TN Is tile path on which the government has en-
tered. Let II peisevere. (Applatse)
LA
lnterIor-ln the speech which we have just heard,
by the side OF liberal sentiments, IN which
propositions, interpretations ana series of
observations which are personal to the speaker.
billy than tnat OF our own opinions ana acts and
before those we shall never recOil but can declare
that would never be the responsible Minister to
policy such as has been just set forth Great appro-
baiion) / am not Of those who doubt the pOssbi-
hsy OF the alliance OF the Empire with liberty. M
ffa Oetef is nat the Nac0ieOS are destined to es-
ta0itsh constitutional 7nOnarIhv IN this country.
Great applause.) But liberty Is not founded with
temerlty, with that impetuoslty which pretends to
suppress all obstacles. (Hear, near).
The Minister after recommending confidence IN
the compatibility OF the Empire with liberty. con.
know, but 1t Is worthy OF Napoleon; and permit me
to say that it is perhaps the only work that can still
add something more to the greatness OF that name
In history. Great applause.)
The discussion was then adjourned
A Question Of Crder-personnl Alteration.
lue oeHatc Hciu u Situus ueAt uitcIHoou, NJ HUI
her, the President, In The chair. The Ministers were
In their places and Prince Napoleon present The
order Of the day was the adjourned discussion on
the Senosus Cons,sltum.
Count DE D'AGUEssEAU rose and said-As
perceive Prince Napoleon i'll his place, ask leave
to speak on u personal matter. listened yesterday
with great attention TO the sad affecting and scan
dalous speech-lloud cxclamat;Ons)-
The Marquis DE GRIcouRr-Of whom are you
The PREsIDENT-Yous should respect the opinions
and, above all, the persons Of the Speakers
Prince NAPoLEoN-lnere IL nothing scandalOus
here about your language.
Count DE SEGURDAGUEssEAU-I Will prove In o
moment the correctness of my expressions. IRE
The Marquis DE CRrcoURr- Respect In this assem-.
bly, the nephew of the Emperor.
Count DE SEGUR-D' 'AGUEssEAU-I repeat that
know nothing more fully calling for the severe eX-
pressiOns when have used than the pr0vocatiOn to
dsobey the constitution and the laws brought TO
this tribune by the First Prince OF the blood vio
lent exclamau0Ds.)
The PREsrDENr-Speak on the personal matter
Count DE sEGUR-D'AGuEssEAU-Ia am coming to It,
l allu0e to the lncorrectnesS with which Prince
Napoleon was Informed, or rather thought himself
to DC so, OF a pretended proposition that made to
abr0gate the SejldtUs COpSHtue Of 1866, tnterQct-
ing the discussion OF the constitution by any other
body than the Senate, and, besides prohibiting all
and In non-perodica writings of less than six pages
OF impression. II he Prince has been very inexactly
informed. declared in the committee that it was
better 10 abroRate law than to allow 1t to be vio
lated with impunlty; but never proposed the abro
gaitOn III question, because 1t would have been
to consecrate the violation which the government
had been wrong to tolerate. Much more than that
i said that an energetic execution OF the Sendtus
C0,tsuttu1n ought to be insisted on. l now wish to
add q few words on another subject.
The PREsIDEST-As you have done with the per-
sonal incident. cannot allow you to continue, in
the place OF speakers regularly inscribed.
Tie Incident then terminated.
French Opinion Of the Crisis.
The Paris Journals OF the 4th OF September-al-
most the whole Of the city press--remark On Prince
Napoeon's speech some of them Joining with IL the
remarks Of N. dc FORBADE Ia Roquette In reply. The
general opinion Is that the Prince displayed great
ability and liberal spirit which sounded somewhat