The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1869-10-16

Sr6d the importance OF sanitary measures for
the native race. Hawaii had %, 900 population,
md no physicians. IL was injurious TO the IA
tives to bring the Chinese coolies here to mix
with them. It deteriOrates the Hawaiian in
morals and in health High wages bring general
prosperity, and vice versa, IN all countries, and
among all classes Of the community. InstaDced
the present condition Of some of the cities OF
Australia Labor cannot get along witbous the
assistance of capital, but the latter must pay
labor fair price for Its work Condemned the
plan of bringing any more Chinese coolies here
They were an incubus on the country
rs. ~ Costle read an extract from a speech of
10 Gen. Miles, of Memphis, Tenn, IN which he
spoke highly Of the Chinese as the cheapest, and
p best of laborers- As to the question of pay
ing higher wages for our laborcrs, Mr.. c. said
that the planters could not, without loss, pay
wages at a higher rate than a certain ascertained
sum per month
I w. c. Jones-The price of labor will regulate
ftself. Open the door to free immigration, if there
J is any necessity to go abroad-which he did not
admit
rs. G. Wrlder-Campbell & Turton employ na-
tives alone, but they admit that labor is be-
coming scarce, while it must be remembered that
they have the only mill in Lahaina, and that the
natives must work with them or not at all. 1t is
uIucfent IN hOOldu, natises are anu grow
ing scarcer and less inclined to work for the
wages the planter afford to gve-S10 per
month. As to free immigration, il is certainl 2
open enough now. But how will you encourage
ii, SO that it shall answer the necessities, what
plan Is proposed2 One fact is apparent, the de-
mand for labor is greatly in excess of the supply
As 10 the Chinese, he did not believe they were
found to be any more vicious than other nations.
w. L. Gre,n-Noted Col. Jones' idea about
introducing free immigration as important, but
spontaneous was the better word. After all, the
coolies brought here were quite free. for the mat
ter of that They came voluntarily, under con-
tracts made and understood in China. We have
other sugar-growing countries To compete with,
and we must organize, and procure labor from
dark-skinned races, or shut up shop. White
men will not do as hborers within the tropics.
Natives not 10 be depended ON. Sugar is our
only dependence
A. s. Judas lawyer, saw q good deal of
the workings Of the labor system, as shown in the
courts, and did not approve OF it. Cannot n SUI
gnr plantation be worked with smaller force,
better paid? lie deprecated the store system, as
carried ON on many plantations, whereby laborers
got into debt and advocated nm entirely cash sys-
TEN. The debt system has crushed the laborer.
Half the number or men, paid double the
ordinary wages, would do double the amount Of
work. Agreed with Col. Jones, that sufficient in
dneements not held out TO the natives q
work.
Js@ge Wids1uanr-Did not like the credit sys-
TEN with laborers, but il was the fault, not Of the
employer. but OF the laborcr. The natives are
very prone to get into debt, but such is not the
with Cinnamon
MesSrs. Wilder and Castle said that the plant
ers did NOT encourage their hands in getting in
A rlsf-
said il was almost impossible to resist their i'm
portunities TO meet their various pilikias.
Capt. Mskse agreed with the last speakers as to
the proueness Of natives to get in debt. lie en-
ployed natives when he could, and paid wages in
proportion the labor performed, but his expe-
rience was that the higher rate Of wages n native
got, the more he inclined to squander his
earnings and get into his employers debt. -
W. L. Green-Some plantations recently sold
at auction ut very low figure, would doubtless
have brought so, 900 more, had it not been for
the scarcity of reliable labor.
s. It. ALerandsr-Coineidedf fully in the remarks
Of Capt. Makee. LabOrers are now paid as much as
can be afforded, on plantations, nor could any
more work be reasonably got ut of the men than
now. Unless more and cheap labor is got, the
plantations will have to stop. Under all the cir
procure laborers- The native population is rap
idly dying out, and it Is simply ridiculous to saw
that there is native labor enough in the country
Any increase IN the rate OF wages paid to laborers
would result IN eating up the entire profits Of
plantations.
Mr.. Peek, (of Brewer & Co.,)-Could add
nothing to what the Inst speaker lad said. Ii
was undoubtedly true that the native race was
dying, and we must fill their places Paying
higher wages, even if practicable, would not do
il. In reply TO n question, the speaker said that
the system OF giving advance wages originated in
Honolulu, 1t being shipping port.
Or. Jzdd-Iaborers can't be procured without
going abroad for them. Wages can't be safely
raised above the present rates. 1t is true, how
ever that good deal Of labor Is expended here
which might go much farther with proper man.
azement Instances California, where the economy
OF labor is well understood. Our natives are not
educated to labor. Ifwe want skilled labor we
must look Cor it abroad and pay high wages, but
for ordinary plantation labor. We must 90 abroad
also, and get cheap labor-the best we can get
for our money
~ E.. Bailey, of Waik1ku-Had none but Hawai-
ians employed as laborsrs. Found them good and
efficient, after they had learned how to work
As to the question Of Taying higher wages an
encouragement TO natives, be thought il could
not be afforded, IN the FIRST place, and moreover,
as general thi g, natives were not improved by
high wages, because, the more they received, the
more they were inclined to feel independent, and
lose time. They are naturally disnclined TO a
constant routine OF every day work. That was
his experienee-would Ike To hear Others on the
same subject. Natives are dying of very fast.
s. ~. Caaie-Sagar growers would rather have
the natives as laborers than any others they were
obtainable- But they cannot be had, and the
present necessity is urgent The men now
engaged, are very unlikely to rc-ship when their
terms bave expired
w. c. Jones said he was informed that ut least n
thousand able-bodied natives OF these Islands
were now absent on whaling voyages Why
could not these men, under proper and remu-
nsrafive system be induced to remain at homo