The evening telegraph. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1864-1918, 1869-06-15

establishment of the latter. He appealed to the
opposition to consider the dignity of the House, and
after due protest to allow the BILL ndorsed by the
voice of the country, to pass. The House of Peers
had great power for good, but there is thing IL
does not possess 1t has not the power to thwart
the national will. 1t said the method of con-
Quoting the bill in the House of Commons was Of
fensive, and the Lords had been advised to be con-
ciliatory in their present declaration. He well
knew the value of conciliation, but there was no
necessity for IL here. He would assure the Lords
that though the Liberal party adhered to the policy
of the bill, they would gratefully welcome and
carefully consider any alteration of detail proposed
by their lordships. More than this he could not
say.
Earl Harrowby moved that the second reading of
the bill be postponed three months. He opposed
the bill as revolutionary and in violation of the
nation oath and of the act of the union. The cir
cumstances insufficient to justify its ntroduo-
tiOn, and the result would be to diminish the number
of Irish Protestants. 1t was no act of justice He
repudiated the idea that its rejection would be
ming counter to the national will. The of the
country had not been tested on the point He be-
lieved the country was now earnestly looking to
and expecting the House of Lords to reject the bill
Lord Clarendon said he did not reciprocate the
feeling of Earl Harrowby to the result of the
bill. Similar forebodngs were expressed in regard
to reform and free trade measures. He believed
on the topic. 1t had been discussed for the past
year and half, and was SO thoroughly exhausted
and understood that he was unable to say anything
on it. AS Protestant he sympathized with
his Catholic fellow-countrymen in Ireland in the
wrongful position in which they were placed. He
never felt it stronger than when he saw crowds
kneeng outside hOvel, with a handsome parish
church close by unattended. He believed Ireland
was the question of the hour Her condition had
bewidered government after government. The
unveral assent of the country and the mpossiblity
that such state of things should continue, i'm
posed on Mr.. Gladstone the duty of settling the
Irish Church grievance.
Duke Rutland opposed the bill because it over
threw the rights of property, violated the religo
of majority of the people of the United Kingdom,
and destroyed the union of Church and State. He
denied that the Irish Church was a badge of con-
quest, and affirmed that voluntary system would
never answer.
Stratford de Redclife objected to many details of
the bill, but warned the House not to sacrifice the
substance for the shadow. He believed the passage
of the bill as it stood would result in rrepar
able injury to the Church, and would not improve
the condition of Ireland, The relative position of
the two Houses of Parliament, however, demanded
the second reading after which the upper House
could amend the Objectionable features.
Lord Romilly regarded the idea that the bill
would prove the destruction of Professionalism as a
myth. 1t would only deprive the Crown of the
nomination of some bishops, abolish ecclesiastical
courts and remove specific endowments. 1t would
not Interfere with the doctrine or discipline He
warned the House against opposing the national
Will, and reminded them that the severest blow
they had received was in the rejection of the Re-
form bill and the final compulson they were under
to pass it.
The Archbishop of Canterbury said the bench
and bishops intended to do what in conscience they
considered the wsest and best On the decision of
the House of Lords depended the issues affecting
the Churches of Ireland and England, well as
the doctrines of the empire. He would not agree
with blind acceptaton or rejection, and he was
glad to hear that amendments would receive con-
sderaton. The curse of England was perpetual
religious and political agitation. He not de-
srous of supporting either. He believed that those
who urged its rejection really desired to this
House powerless He attached to the Irish
Church. He believed that blow injuring it would
njure the English Church. He therefore desired
to give calm and serious consideration to the bill
and TO amend and make it a good measure. The
earnest endeavor of the House of Peers, containing
the heads Of Church and law and the landed in
terest of the realm, would be Of more avail than
any agitation meetings at Manchester or in Ire
land.
Earl Caernarvon was unable to understand how
Protestants could hand Ireland over bodily to the
Church of Rome, but that they were bound to re-
cogniZe freedom from State CONTROL which had for
so long period been a kind of slavery He disbe-
lieved that this bill would seal the fate of the
English Church, and did not even think it an act
of spoliation distinguishing private from corpo-
rate property; but to the wisdom of disendowing
| a corporation which was fulfilling duties of a
| questionable character it right to state that
were the disestablishment granted partial olsen
| dowment must follow.
On the monetary question he urged liberality and
| generosity, and in conclusion advised the House
| not to reject the BILL The majority of the House
| of Commons, he said, demanded its passage, but
minority of the House and the country commended
| its consideration in committee.
Bishop Derry opposed the bill on the ground thai
it ignored the Queens supremacy, and would in the
end bring the country under the dominion of {
| papal legate.
The House, without taking action, at 1915 ad
| journed.
| LONDON, June 14-In the House of Commons
| tonight, Mr.. Otway, under Foreign Secretary
said the facts in the of the seizure of the Mar
Lowell were in dispute. The United States govern
ment asserts that the vessel seized in British
waters, while the Spanish government maintain
that she was captured on the high seas, beyon
British jurisdiction. The evidence adduced b
Spain was in the hands of the law officers, and
would be impossible to produce the papers a
present
| LONDON, June 14.-The Times, on the prospect
of the Irish Church bill in the House of Lord:
says "The week opens with all the elements of
dramatic situation The action is great, the motiv
great and the end certain. We are convinced tn
bill will pass to its second reading. Every day
becomes clearer that England after an agitatio
of eighty years, will voluntarily undo an injustc
so long perpetrated. No Orange demonstration
| can affect the success of the measure. This scar
dal of the Irish Church establishment is at the
of the alienation of Ireland Its destruction is a