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--N H1sa1 J. wH.11uorsz, n,4hop OF Illinois
Iii. THOMPSON. Mr. President, the rapel
which has Just been presented IL 20 !ntllnatell
connected with the q1sat!ou3 connected With ths
Jurisdiction under which the proceedings .nsu
| Tilted, and We shall have some exceptions aud oa
jectlons 70 make but .nasmucn Is thts is The ars
time we have seen 1t We would like an op?ortnni
ty 70 consult toge.her In regard to It, In ths
I meantime have another po1nt which I MIL nov
present. We would like 70 know, ml. fragae1I
ail o. the eight persons described in the cauoE
NJ. FLlLER- Named IN the citation.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The court Is IN
Mr. THOMPSON. VIII the counsel answer It
Mr.: THOMPSON. And the other three:
! know whether they are here or not know OF nc
| law requiring them TO be present here.
| MI THOAlSoS- As lntlmated by the Judge
ral disconnect ea from ans pfeluiIce-a fair trial
.and we would Ike to have tho r1Rht to examine
These gentlemen IN reference 10 tlelr qualinca-
tous 10 SIT as assessors on this trial WIN The gen
tlenan grant us That privilege. nsk that q1es.
71s PRESIDING OFFICER ! unaers..us
certain tActs which lie outside or The canon en-
t11eis, and therefore " III te denied hy The court
porview OF the canon NJ Ill. why, OF course, such
objection wouid be received and eutertaineu By
the court; tut when they lie outside OF tie rur-
tie CANON, ol course the objections woald DC de-
c!lntA by the court As understand the ot.Jec-
iitns a. presented soneE1iat loosely BY the gen
Ar. FULLER Mr.. President: Do not uu1c1-
FtaEd that.ny asaoclate hss presented any obtee-
! through hin the counsel either or po,h Of taem. n
10 Etate whG1her Tue eight persons named In the
cltanon McIe Present with E1eF to 10 examined
OF whether the nvc presby;cra who 1t Is admitted
Sfr ffGGeIt. KILLING n he fS4miORf Nr
whether It wRs contemplated that there was cny
prophecy In tAeir being examined, touching their
taken the position that tie eight prcsbyters necd
not De present. md that IL tantamount Of Course
70 concession that they are not Aere-1 DO NOT
See fleu hcre--they IRE not officially hefe-aud
iDhanucl ts from what has fallen -fFun the pre-
siding oEcer. II 1s apparc1t that the examination
Itcllons, or hand II 10 the court to die. and rolid
like TO lie heard IN reference 10 them. THIS Is not
question that We present with any desire 10
reject upon the gentlemen who aIe present
fothe accused that the tribunal which is to "
bin should be impartial! and not oniy 20, but that
ne thould lie E1us1ed OF its tmraEutlty, and 1t Ia
Of the highest importance ~ the Church of course,
that no Impression oE conviction should bc pro-
oa9sa haa1 H.! 5hsre ~ Wn1s Of mRas n
respecting one Of the ~ Who u present. and wha
nI1utncs 10 act, we have felt II our 1Uty 10 hrng
/ understand the course pursued Il to reno the
papc.s, as has been properly done by my ie.rned
friend on Tie other side, md then
sent his counsel, which has been anticipated, or
10 PITT ID hts Plea Is the ofst opportunity he has to
bc heard hS the gentlemen assuming 10 TT, him,
or the court, II yoa pcase-bccatsc we will Goa
duct the hearing and the trial upon the principles
named by my friend, With entire courtesy and
fs.tnes = The objection and pro;est s as foloxs.
| Tlu endcaFor to hhoK ~ precedent In such u lt-
te1s, as vel! a. In other sintar ttials-lt Is couch.
ed IN proper language and presents the point dis
tincsll.:hat ny client is entitled 70 bc heard In
The matter n0w unI1ef consideration
Mt. Fcilcr then read tho protest, az {01loEs:
TIE gEo1Es1.
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To the E+v. Samuel Chase. D. y. Rsr. Thomas y.
B. ~ IL; 4: Y; seys ~: Ftott.. va sSl,.s.".
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e out of which to seies alscssos, b.
Fer h!sh s.il se;er OF .oe Of them.
,een.sd !nss. that TIE aid the Rev Samuel Chsse
eay ppsHses nd M ksT - 'as ssgssa sssa
ought nct 70 SCI = caust!:u.ink corl Il thn
'le' A1s ee1A'' lawfully Enss essef Eoro : e 8 G
MI. FULLER Now take It, before I proceed
70 eau the attention Of the President to the Canon
principles, and BY Thai rules, such tIials In The
Diocese q illinois orc governed I End, upon An
oi the general canons, thai it il spc
hiafop the eproceeu1ncs hnan be according 70 tbs
coni1e Of The common lAw. l. do not remember
M s aiss nqt i, s PRINCIPLES @ - apa
II tie diocese prohibiting thsl eoarse, Is would
oeio,e pres,yset., - bishop psfoae bsshops, us
he ENG principles ana rnles ahoold govern that
2 thoH, the common law shonid BE- ohse1ved
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n 4 nssnss it n more neaTy 70 n e1se. anaioy With
The tral now pending or about TO commence,
they 80 on. Alsnop uopkinA distinguished !
the presid.uE bishop ~ we I'll Know. and who |
uow festa Irun lis fahors, gave m opinion, or Al
e1ptesaiou Of his yew1 ns 10 why the principles Of
tincnt aad e applicable heIe that a1x Iernls- |
1on TO Rad them II WIN take but : moment
Having aaotsd iron nEauss On ne civil Aad
"HeEr, then, We behold The t1ue ground Of all |
The authority which the cvl and canon laws can |
tuAiiJ cla.nt erea IN those countries Nhete they
Of custom snd usaEe- Int tneae lsx. h1ve ncrey !,
been Adopted i, 1s We hayr no cusion, csage, !
Dor allow auce which can bc pieadod In their favor.
perfect hut i. h.a tnaa mr. painly been modelled,
NOT upon the plan OF those Roman for1nulaftcsr |
o. oaf osa da5 snd es oa SpIe SpI
The tesJ canon Under Which We ere caIled Is.
Rctnes In opr jndictal character Only be rndef
ot.lhe COMMON law
Tint vii le found on psSc 81 OF the on,cr-
eeeda, think, and when We examine tnr III.
CANON, that tnAt ca1ou can Only be understood !
consistently Nth " ss:ahsne1 principles OF The
common hx. uc Then goes On TO NAME tht res !
soD1 Why he szJs that int canon In relation TO fhe
trial Of bishop shoald be royezncd BY the com
t1dca distinctly that Abe common law rules shall |
prevail 49,.
.lndeed,~ he sayz, ~ might well ask how our |
eccirnasttcal leEtAlntGre-&he General Conren. |
tton-couId be supPozed TO Intend that VIC Aho1ld |
be governed BY code with Ehich there Is not = |
1nkn among ~ fatullars'' / only road thai be- |
e4usc nnan her, not becsnse wish 10 Enegrst |
the infefence 1h4t yoa gentlemen arc moi, or InaJ
sot b familiar with the Law Of which Ee arc !
speaking. and Of which yor xse Judging. Who |
VA ihere." be goes On, "tn either Of the !!
uocsea that Ind esct seen trial II Doctors Com
ecclesiastical pon11a. How could we have par |
formed or painful duty II III, II hat nol been