The daily phoenix. [volume] (Columbia, S.C.) 1865-1878, 1869-07-02
E1-President Johnaon.

good citizens of Washington, Andrew
johnson, ex-President of the United
States, arrived in that city, yesterday,
and took up his quarters ut the Metro
politan Hotel, where, it is said, he had
placed ct his disposal one Of the most
comfortable parlors the establishment
could boast. The enterprising CORES
pondent of the Herald instantly gained
admission to him, and ere the dust of
travel was whisked from his garments
poor andrew was made to discourse free
ly about Grant and his administration
He said:
'sBut this little fellow, Grant, an mp
start, mere accident of the war, crea-
ture without the ability to comprehend
the philosophy of o single great ques-
tion, says, In his inaugural, I know the
responsibility is great, but accept it
or Jefferson? Pshaw! It's monstrous
no ideas, no policy. Why, Washington
considered that a man's sgreatness was
measured by his morality, by the stand
ard of his soul. And have always con-
sidered that the more soul man had
the more he developed the soul or intel
lect within him, the more god-like he
became. But. sir, Grant has nothing
Physically and mentally, and morally,
he is a nonenity. Why, sir, his soul is
so small, that you could put it within
the periphery of hazel nutshell, and
it might float about for thousand years
without knocking against the walls of
the shell. That's the size of his soul
:ft *x I often think that
about the fttest place for Grant is at
some place in the country where there
are crossroads. There has
been agreat social upheaval, and Grant
has been left on the top, and thinks
there is something in him. It is pre-
cisely like q volcanic disturbance. The
natural condition of the earth is broken
up. strata after strata is broken through,
things are displaced and turned upside
down, and what should be at the bottom
is thrown high up. That is just Grants
case. Butler under
stands Grant thoroughly. I have no
hesitation in declaring that Grant is a
mean, avaficious, cunning, spiteful man
complete bundle Of petty jealousies,
spltes and lies. He has no courage. I
made him fairly quail before nv glance
at that Cabinet meeting when I asked
him about that famous correspondence
concerning Stanton"
Mr.. johnson is not one Of the kind to
allow the grass to grow under his feet.
The object Of his presence is to arrange
business matters of Importance least
so he says; but he may have some little
matter to attend to concerning his own
State, which he declares will elect Senter
as Governor, although it is we'll known
that all the influence of the Washington
administration will be thrown in favor of
Stokes. the radical.
Among other things, the cx-President
said the country is tending towards des-
potism or anarchy. He characterized
our credit aristocracy rs the worst speci-
men of aristocracy that ever existed,
and predicted the certain reputation of
the national debt. No country has ever,
he says, paid off great national debt
without reputation: and wherever you
will find n permanent national debt, one
that has not been paid off. you will find
there is no freedom. Spain is not free,
France is not free, Russia is not free,
England is not frec-becauso each of
those countries has permanent national
debt. Grant is ruled by the bond-hold-
ers, and they will ruin the country. if
the people do not take political matters
in hand, and restore free government.
Louisville Courier Journal