The New York herald., 1869-04-22

the camera that was seated at; remarked notnlng
unusual In hrs action.
DID you develop the picture S o. sSs setting the
plate In the camera box.
Q. Were not ali these spirit photographs recos-
nized by their friendsr A. Quite number were'
Q. And the parties were satisfied with themY A.
Yes very much sat SIZED. ,.u.
Q. From your experience In photograpny nave
you any knowledge Of pictures being taken by
placinR objects within the cameraf A. VI my own
knowledge l do not know Of any process oy wmcn
o. Have you known any pictures to be taken OF
persons deceased who had never got their photo
NM NJ. cearv @ objected. objection overruled.
A. DO; know many cases that have been told
me- know na M Z! Gao Let have an
instance OF the case you mentonf A. In the case OF
my wife, who received the picture OF her husoand'
o. WIN YOU swear that the deceased never had his
picture takenf A. SO far as have been told; l
cannot state positively; will state another instance
Mr. Geary-No; one is quite suficient According
to own Gon you hy 1s pss' 20 Y
@. Were you In business Win MIN at tnat 'i"er
asking permission and paving Tor It.
Q. How much9 A. do not know; 1t was the de-
sire Of Andrew Jackson Davis that should investi
q. Were you paid by Davisi A. Yes and bore
portion Of the expense mysef
Q. You told Mumler tnat you wantea tne prvllege, @
the necessary investigationP A. Yes.
existence Il as ySu Of spritsf 1'i a. cannot answer
Q. Are you believer Of incorporeal presence
A. That canno. answer.
@. Are you disciple OF Andrew Jackson DAVIS, or
o believer In his philosophy A. Yes, Sir.
O. When did you first become connected In busi-
ness with the defendant Mumlerf A. the lst DAY
O. Previous to that time you had been engaged in
this city with Mr.. Silver or went by that manner A.
o. Were You partner with Mumler from the first
OF April to the present time? A. You may call IT
that If you like; had a share and continued with
him until the time he arrested.
Q. What was the last dividend paid your A.
have been paid none as yet.
Q. How much does lie pay your A. One half OF
the proceedings, but there has been no settlement
made yet.
applied for spirit photographs ten dollars Tor
dozen9 A. Yes.
deposit the event of the ten dollars not being paid
in advance3 A. No; took the responsibility OF that
myself of paying 1t out Of my own pocket.
Q. Did many persons call to nave ther photo-
graphsf A. Yes, great many.
@. Have you the names OF any OF themP A. Wen,
I did not provide myself with them.
o. DO you see any OF them In court who have ap-
piled for spirit Photographic Can you indicate any
OF them? Look round ana try II you can see any OF
them. A. (Witness pointing to persons named)-I
see Mr. Hall over there, MI. Newton, Mr.. hitchcock
and Mr.. Gilmore.
ceased relatives9 A. They came for photographs.
Q. They all paid In advanceS A. AS rule they
did: some, however dld not.
O. But you made certain OF the money before you
proceededY A. Sure pop. Haughter.l
@. How large an amount dd you taken In weekly
8. Did You know Marshal Tooker before he came
to the photograph gallery A. do not know him
Marshal Tooker was here requested to stand up
but the witness said he did not remember his lace
Q. VIII you look at that photograph and state
whether q photograph such as that could be pro-
duced by mechanical means?-ph0tograph with q
negative handed to witness). A. know the pro-
o. what process is theres A. The double mega
O. understand you to say at the time you ex-
amined the process in Boston you tried to ind out
respecting the manner those spirit photographs
were produced. A. Yes, SIR
O. Did you examine the glass before the collodion
was placed upon it, A. Thoroughly.
O. Did you examine the camera? A. Thoroughly.
O. Dd you examine the plate after it came out Of
20 O. How many methods are there for producing
these socalled spiritual photographsY A. do not
know It can pe zone 6y pdchg Y G % e
nectors have never tried the experiment.
O. Can it not also be performed by placing small
object in the or near the camera so that 1t
strikes on looking glass beyond. A. 1t might be
done, but have not tried the experiment.
Q. Where do you buy your cameref A. Where
o. Where does Mumler buy thems A. don'l
o. At the time Marshal Tooker applied for spiri,
| photograph you thought he wanted oneS A.
thought 1t was bona dde application, otherwise ]
o. Did you state to Marshal Tooker in substance.
that you were able TO produce photograph Of q
deceased friend or Of spirit in the same picture
o. How long before Marshal Tooker came In had
you seen Marshal Tookers A. Not Tor some time
O. You were not present when the picture was
takenS A. was not
o. DO you not remember to have stated to Marshal
Tooker, IN answer to question put to you BY him
as TO whether likeness designated by him could be
spiritually produced, and that he desired to have
fha urao of
| he could have its A. said that the photograp b
wonld be that OF the spirit nearest 10 sympathy wit
the sitter; that was my way OF thinking.
O. Were those st.tements made before the two
| dollars was paid A. Yes; there was scarcely any
o. Did YOU give the Marshal to understand that
such pictures were produced by spiritual agency
A. told him that Il was my belief that such pictures
%. Did YOU say tnat Mr.. Mumer produced these
| pictures by supernatural meanss A. | don't remem
O. You don't remember having made such state
ment2 A. do not.
o. You were directed by Mr.. Mumier to stay on thu
secured to carry the business systematic rule
| and principles generally.
ing your conversation with Marshal Tooker lad,
was present, apparently engaged with the business
@. Is she In the habit OF being present such oc
casionsY a. Always; as general rule she 4
| alwAys down stairs, she was present when Marsha
TooSer's portrait was taken; IN my opinion the sus
| picions Of Marshal Tooker are unfounded.
| EX-Judgc L. W. Edmonds was the next witness
placed upon the stand, where he remained witt
apparent ease, yet evidently anxious to unburdei
| himself OF some important scientific points regard
ing the subject at Issue. There was evidently grea
interest manifested In his appearance and the lad
Spiruelists, who were crouched together stretche,
forward their nccks with unmistakabc earnestness
The witness was examined by Mr.. Day.
| q. How long are you acquainted with Mr.. Mumer
A. About two or three weeks.
| q. Have you sat IN his gallery for pictures A
| les sir.
| O. Please state the circumstances In connection
with your visit. A. few weeks ago was invited
| by some gentlemen frtends-Dr. J. II. Geary and Mr.
| IIunt-to 30 TO Numbers gallery TO have our pic
pictures; there were two for me- three for Gear
and two for Hunt: upon each OF the seven pictures
| there was apparent shadowy, ghosthke and par
tcular form. "a Will show you: there was nothing
| between Inc and the wall, nor any picture OF
| the wall which could have been taken; I did
not recognize the spiritual likeness as any one whom
had ever seen or known; on one OF the pictures |
think recognize the lace; about twelve years ago