The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1869-07-24
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OF THE GOVERNMENT.
LONDON, July 2l.-In the House Of Lords
last night the Irish Church bill, as returned
from the Hou,e of Commons, was taken up.
Earl Granville complimented the Lords on the
ability and craftsmanship developed in the late
debate and the moderation shown by the op-
position towards its close. The government
thought some Of their amendments good, some
bad, others quite insdmisslble. He did not
consider the Commons had dealt supercilious-
ly or contemptuously with them, for out OF
sixty amendments only thirteen bad been ab-
solutely rejected. he analysed the amend
ments having effect to re-endow what the bill
intended to disendew, and said concurrent en-
dowment, Notwithstanding the ability with
which it had been supported, the government
was obliged to considers q breach Of faith with
their constituents, while an overwhelming ma
jority Of the House Of Commons and pubic
opinion were opposed to it.
IN respect 70 the disposal Of the surplus
fund, the more he saw and heard the more he
was convinced that it was disadvantageous to
keep the question open, and he condemned the
proposal to keep f3, ,000. 900 dangling before the
people to excite and stimulate agitation. He
urged the House not to adhere to these amend
ments, and proposed reinststing the words
struck out Of the preamble an the original
bin. -
Lord Cairns complained in strong terms
that the government had not adhered to Earl
GrangiIles pledge that the Lords amendments
would be respectfully considered, for on the
faith of this promise many who objected to The
bill ON its own merits were induced 10 vote for
q second reading. BE thought Mr.. G adstone
had used language IN. the other Htuse nm
worthy Of himself and Of his position. ile con-
tended that Of the amendments which had
been rejected eli except two had been disposed
OF without the slightest consideration. The
notifications made in the other ianaendments
we're utterly illusory and unsatisfaetory- y
He hoped the House would insist on the
reservation OF the surplus for future disposi-
ton, and on the amendments with respect to
eurates and To commntation life interests.
The remaining amendments, beng OF minor
importance, they might give up. in order not
to provoke needlessly collision between the
two houses. --
Earl Kimberly said theaeovernment could
not give way. ...-, 81,
Earl Grey thought the words Of the pream-
ms were Offensive to the religious majority OF
Ireland, and urged the government to concur
in the amendment. II the bill failed on ac-
count Of its refusal to yield this point, it
would be the fault Of the government.
Lords Halifax, ClAnricarde and ShAftesbury
supported the government. =.
Earl Russell favored the .disestablishneD t
and disendowment. subject 10 existing rights.
He thougAt the words in the preamble nnne-
oessary and impoltic. 1.-THE realobject OF the
bin was to be declared, it should state that the
decision OF the last election was against au
Church estsblishmepts-thoseo Of England and
6cotand as we'll as reland-snd the existence
af the Irish Church ought to te made direct
bsue. - : ee,e G =
He believed the preamble Was capable Of any
Interpretation. he thought the grant Of
globes to al denomtnstlons was the: wisest
plan for establishing religious equality. BE
declared he would feel Obliged to vote against
the government on The question, Of the preani-
bic. Should the bill fail to pass, the govern
ment would only have itself to blame. he
thought they ought 20 reciprocste Che ecncih.
atory disposition manifested by Lerd Cairns.
The Duke Of Argyle denied that the govern
ment desired to, provoke D eollisiou between
the two houses ofPar'iament. He denounced
concurrent endowment, and detendsd the pro
visions OF the bin a not only just but gener-
oue.
The Marquis Of ssH.bury reprosehed the
government party for its change Of opinion
18th respect to disestabishment .asd disen-
dowment. Before taking Office it heldthem to
be distinct matters, Now it used tfat they
were bound together indlssolubly. he believ-
cd the adoption OF concurrent endowment
would have been wise and statesmanlike.
he opposed the preamble and the appro-
priatiou Of the surplus as false and foolish
effort Of the government to bind future Parlia-
ments. The government wished to guard
against the employment Of the surplus for re-
hgous purposes. he insisted that the Lords
hsd,a clear and we'll defined duty to performto
themselves in this matter. In resisting the
demands Of the government they were not re-
sisting the verdict Of the country, but the will
of single individual. They had exhausted all
efforts at conciliation and compromise. To
give way now would be to sacrifice the inde-
pendeu0e Of the Peers as well as the Church. u
Bari Granville protested against the lam
euage applied to the government. and appeal
ed to the Lords to support the government in
this grave and critical moment. The House
then divided on the motion Of Earl Granville
to restore the preamble. with the following re-
suit: Eor ,95., against 17s-maionty against
tAe government 70. :;
Earl Granville then moved an adjournment
that be might consult his colleagues, and at o
late hour the Rouse adjourned.
EXCITING SCENES IN The HOUSE OF LoRDs-THE
sPEERs GIVE WAY. AND A COMPROMISE Is Ac-
CEPTED.
4oNDoN, July 2s.-There was full atsen-
dance OF the House Of Lords. many OF the
Commons being present. Lord Granville
opened the debate. stating that the ministers
regarded the vote rejecting the preamble OF the
Irish Church bill as grave affair, but we're un-
willing to prevent the consideration of other
amendments and we're snxlous to canducI the
discussion in peaceful and concliistory spirit.
Lord Cairns said that since the adjournment
he had had conference with Lord Granville,