The New York herald., 1869-04-04

| Church and now the State was about TO turn round
and divert the funds of local communities W eE
maintenance OF iunatics and other purposes II
such principle as that were TO be auoptcu "o ha
Church. and in this % respect the Circumstances Of the
present tunes were peculiarly speclai III e "a ~
For language had been recently held Win regalu nas
private property which justified the alarm ol .nosc
who felt that II false step were TAKEN ~ ,;s u1as
with ecclesiastical property they would oe
II to kndle, yet TO fan flame wnicn tnfeateneu
other descrptons of property. He trusted the gov
| ernment would be successful IN deany Win 'ue
MIR Bright it appeared that 1t was not intended to
treat that subject in any manner that c0ud Vloa.e
ants OF ireland were not people who deserved i'll of
| the Crown. Their position had been maue LOT
to ory English neress , ~ 10 reat them as
| II they deserved i'll OF US. They had always peen
| loyal, Intelligent and Industrious subjects OF the
| Crown and II not numerically the most Important
they were IN many respects, very Important class
| OF her Maesy's subjects. In the attempt then, to
allay discomfort Parliament should be careful now IL
wounded to the quick their feelings and interests.
and alienated them in addition TO other portions OF
| the community. II the House should, as he pre-
should acquiesce In the verdict, and in committee 10
his best to suggest improvements IN such OF its de.
tails seemed to be capable OF Improvement, but
without suggesting anything that might be inc0n-
sistent with the decision OF the House.
The Solicitor General reminded the House tnat
they were a legislative assembly engaged IN chang
ing the law, and not in declaring what was the law
When Sir Roundell Palmer admitted tnat as an eS-
adjustment the Irish Churcn was indefensibe, ana
that upon certain grounds he would proceed 70
dsestablish 1t, he gave up the whole case. Regard.
ing the Irish Church as symbol or Protestant
ascendancy, he contended that not just as il
should continue. 1t was church for one-seventh
of the population, and could only be maintained as
an establishment by English force; but he did not
believe that In her new position her bishops and
clergy would be wanting to themselves II, for the
first Tune in her history the Church to play part
great religious influence and moral regenerator
would come from the Joint effect OF M
means. The real question was whether tins mea'
sure in Its broad outlines did not afford reason
Ial,ln fAfh hnff cfp
towards England, and laying the foundation OF wise
and Christian legislation for that unfortunate coun,
| try. To him 1t seemed that 1t would DO 80, anu
| therefore he gave 1t his support.
At few minutes past eleven O'Clock the Chan-
very full house IN defence of the bill. Commencing
his speech with downright scoldng OF Mr. Disraeli
and the opposition for treating the measure as sacr
legous and violation OF the act Of Union, he SCORED
| at the argument as hungry and jejAe ana the
language used as leveled not so much against the
| occupants OF the liberal benches as against the
| people of England. After passing in review Mr..
| Dsraels criticisms OF the bill the right honorable
Palmer, who would dsestabish the Irish Church and
leave 1t with sixteen millions OF property, without
connection with the State and no check even from ON
| lieved, would be the foundation OF Theocracy.
whose power would be so free and unchecked, and
altogether so tremendous. that 1t was impossible to
conceive what might be the result. 1t would
be @ fresh m element Usn, Of ,, anarchy and dr he
richly endowed corporation in country like
Ireland The arguments OF DR.. Ball against
we wanted to see the voluntary system in opera
tion we need not travel to America for it might be
seen working most effectually In Ireland. And
there the nation one side ana the Church on
the other; the state Church was not the national
Church and the national Church was not the State
Church. Whatever religious life existed in Ireland
was to be found where the voluntary principle pre-
vailed; while If they wanted to see where religion
least prevailed they must so to the richly endowed
had made voluntarylsm In m Ireland and we
Of hp a IT,
mental point OF vew but from the more
elevated ground of justice; and the question was
was said that the matter at issue was religious
one; but what had religion to do with system
which had been enforced by conquest? The Church
was represented as a bulwarK against P0pery; but
1t was no part OF the duty OF the government TO
raise bulwarks against any particular religion he
persecution but even the use of the language OF
toleraon: respect every mans faith, and not only
ences IN religion, but obhterate alike from the
statute book and their own minds all notion OF social
| inferiorlty based on mans creed.
Mr.. WALPoLE here moved the adjournment Of the
debate, the effect Of which was to evoke from Mr..
Greene spirited protest against prematurely hurry
ing to division The proposal OF the government,
he said, was fraught with dishonesty. 1t degraded
the Protestant Church at the bidding & OF III Romish n
mo Popery," and he denounced the measure as q
robbery as great as had ever been committed,
The debate was then adjourned to next day.
The Strike of the Preston Cotton Operatives.
The London star OF the 23d ult has the follow ing
about the strike Of the cotton hands,
With the continuance OF the amentable strike
| OF the cotton operatives at Preston the excite
ment in the district Increases. on Sunday a
meeting OF siXty-seven delegates from surround
ing districts was held for the purpose OF con- ON
strike. Their deliberations lasted six hours during
which 1t was ELECTED that the operatives generally
sympathized with the Preston hands In their resist
TO the proposed reduction OF 10 per cent. ResO-
lutons were passed promising support to them dur
ing the struggle and II was agreed that no paid dele
gates should be employed while it lasted 1t IL said
that from seven to ten shilings per head has been
| spportloned from local union funds for those on
strike In the spinning and weaving departments:
The Manchester Examiner says it Is distinctly stated
that the bulk OF the masters are, and have been for
some time, losing money In about three weeks, un-
less some concession be made by the operatives,
nearly 1900 OF them VIII be thrown on. OF work.
The aggregate number Of operatives IN Preston Is
about 5O,0OO.
Heavy Gaies-Dreadfnl shipping Disasters.
A telegram in the Liverpool Post from Plymouth.
March q, gives the following account Of the effects
OF the recent great storm:-Accounts continue 10 be
| received showing Friday nights gale to have been
the most violent and destructive during the last
thirty years. The Ann Jones, OF and from Plymouth
| for Cardiff, went ashore near Tintage, Cornwall,
ebed tbe c and were sayes Fonr
! others were drowned. schooner, name unknown,
went ashore on the .,s, same spot and all i the
| Devitz has been wrecked, and all the crew
are supposed TO be drowned. The Austrian brig
at the same port The crew were saved The
Ocean, OF Penzance, foundered in the Bristol Chan
| mel. The crew OF the Syph, which vessel foundere
| OF ST. Agnes were seen by hundreds for o long
time, struggling IN the waves, but they eventually
disappeared The schooner Bresloe OF st. Ives, was
| wrecked near Padstow; three or the crew were
drowned. The Mercury OF Llanely, for Dieppe,
went ashore at ST. Ives; the saved by the
| Ieboat, after a gallant struggle schooner OF
Barnstaple uopham MASTER, went In pieces two
| miles west OF Portreath. and the crew, six In num-
| ber met with watery grave. -Four small vessels
| foundered or w ent ashore In Torbay, Off Brixham;
fortunately those on board were saved Eight laden
barges sank simultaneously OF YIdelord, aad two
| crews were drowned.
FRANCE.
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