The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-07-22
Tie Irish Church Bili--The Lords and Com.
mons in Collision.

Tie Irish Church Bili.-Ths Lords and Cona-
mons in Collision.
II appears from our cable dispatches this
morning that the dreaded collision between
the Lords and Commons has at last taken
place. Our readers will remember that on
Friday evening last the Lords amendments
were rejected by the Commons On Tuesday
evening the bil! was ran n...sa back to the
Lords via the decision of the lower house.
The occasion seems to have been regarded as
more than ordinarily important. The Lords,
temporal and spiritual, mustered In full force.
Large numbers of the Commons were present
Disraeli was seen sitting sphinx-like on the
steps Of the thr0ne-a suggestive position.
Gladstone leant easily on the rails that
separate the Lords from the strangers-a less
ambitious position, but scarcely less sugges-
tive, while John Bright, evidently en-
joying the scene, moved to and fro like
the incarnate spirit Of revolution. The
galleries of the House were flled with the
elite of the land The debate, in which took
part Earl Granville, Lord Cairns, Lord
Kimberly, Earl Grey, Lord Halifax, Lord
Clanricarde, Lord Shaftesbury, Earl Russell,
the Duke Of Argyle and the Marquis of Sails
bury, turned chiefly on special clause in the
preamble of the bill. The debate, which was
evidently keen, was conducted with great
ability on both sides of the House.
On the motion Of Earl Granville,
that the preamble be restored to it's original
form, the House divided, and ninety-five voted
for the motion and one hundred and seventy
three voted against it, The government was,
in consequence, defeated by majority of
seventy-eight. Such q result left Earl Gran
vile no choice but to move an adjournment of
the House.
1t is only natural that such an abrupt ter
mination Of the debate should give birth to
general and intense excitement. Yesterday the
Cabinet was long in session. Various and
conflicting rumOrs were aaoat as to what the
government was likely to do. 1t was bruited
abroad that the Cabinet was not a unit in
the matter-Lords Clarendon, Granville and
one or two others advising moderation the
Prime Minister, Bright, Lowe and all the
stronger members Of the government, on the
other hand, refusing to yield and counselling
extreme measures. Later in the evening it
was known that the Cabinet had failed to
come to decision. 1t is expected, however,
that decision will be come to to-day.
What the decision will be we shall soon
know.
Meanwhile the widest excitement prevails
all over the three kingdoms Large placards
are posted throughout London, asking the
question whether the Lords or the Commons
are to rule. An immense meeting is to be held
in Arundel Hall to-day, and it is intended that
mass meetings will follow in all the great cities.
It is manifest that the temper of the people is
bad, and that it would not be difficult to fan
The revolutionary embers into fierce and I'M
sovernable flame. We forbear for the present
10 predict what will be the result of this col
lision, but we have no hesitation in saying
that If the Cabinet remains unit Mr.. Glad
stone is master Of the situation and knows how
to win.