The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-11-24

ings against the gunboats, has been very active,
bat declines to give any Information. All interro-
gotores respecting the gunboats are parted In the
most courteous but bathing manner, and the
lips OF his subordinates are as closely sealed
upon the subject as II their Official exist
ence depended on their retcence. While
Spanish emissares track the Cubans and watch
the movements OF the Junta cuban agents
no less carefully observe all the operations Of the
Consul and 1t is not nnfrequenty the case that more
Information can be obtained from these detectives
concerning the proceedings OF their respective game
than from the principals themselves. The Spanish
Consul makes considerable use Of the telegraph In
communicating with his Minister at Washington,
and seems TO be quite confident that the gunboats
win be allowed to depart 10 q few days.
Excitement In Diplomatic Circles in Wash.
ington Over the Seizure Of the Spanish
GunbOats-Absurd Ruplors.
WASHINGTON, Nov. %, 1859.
The news Of the intended libeling Of the Spanish
gunb0ats created quite sensation here in diplO
matte and official circles when 1t became generally
known. Several kilograms were received from par
ties In New York BY officials here, inquring whether
there was any prospect of o rupture between Spain
and the United States. From this 1t was surmised
tina. the news in New York must be Of warlike
character and these kilograms only added to the gen.
erai excitement. The city was full Of rumors,
one OF which was to the effect that the Spanish
Minister, Mr.. Roberts, had called upon M Fish, and
after an excited interview had demanded his pass
ports Another was that Heet Of Spanish war YES
sells had appeared outside the bar in New YORK
harbor, TO back up the Spanish Minister'S demand
for the release OF the gunboats. These and similar
stories upon being investigated OF course proved
groundess.
n
quarter ascertaned that the question Of the deten
ton OF the gunboats not yet assumed the shape
OF controversy between the government Of Spain
and that OF the United States. 1t Is re-
garded here at least by the Spanish Lega-
ton, as still private afair-an AFFAIR be-
tween the contractors for the gunb0ats and
the United States. In other words, the gunboats
supposed to be In the possession OF the Spanish
government until they are formally delivered over
to the parties authorized by that government to
ceve them 1t is held by the Spaniards therefore,
that the contest now Is between the United States
ana the contractors and that 1t must be settled by
them before 1t comes up for consideration between
spain and the United States. l learn that the
Spanish Minister has not, as stated made any for
NAL demand upon our government for the release OF
the gunboats for the reasons above given. 1t EVIL
dent, however, that the question must eventually
become the subject OF consideration between the two
governments
Publication of the Diplomatic Correspond
Relating to the Spanish Gunboats-
Views of the Peruvian Government-Is Peru
NJ War with spain at Peace fan Article
In the Interest Of the Spanish.
From the Washington Chronicle. Nov. 23]
In the diplomatic correspondence OF the United
States transmitted by President to the ForIleth
Congress at its last session, and recently published
we find series OF dispatches which stand in very
tnumate and interesting relation TO the OF the
spanish gunboats now under detention at New YORK.
Be remembered these vessels were detained at
me instance OF the Peruvian Minister on the ground
OF existing war between Spain and Peru, and the
CONSEQUENT al, alleged right OF Peru to have them
neutrality according TO the law OF nations. 1t Is not
pretended that these vessels are intended to
against Peru; but IL is alleged by the Peruvian Min
lister that the employment Of these vessels by Spain
although not against Peru they being, indeed,
might have the effect of setting at liberty other
sells belonging to Spain which could be employed
question OF International law, depending on the
diplomatic discretion Of the President
The right Of Peru TO interpose in this matter and
the right OF the President to proceed independently
Of acts Of Congress depends on the question whether
constitute state Of war. Now, it is remarkable
that this very question fully discussed, and SO
more than year ago. in matter between the same
governments, but with reversal Of their present
war from our ports against Inc objection Of SPAIN. -
On the l4th Of April. 1858, the then Peruvian
Minister Mr.. Garcia, addressed communication to
hostlltiss between Peru and Spain had
ceased on the "a Of May, 1865; that the
in far regards the duties and rights of neutral
powers; that was peace dc Jdcto. as determined
by the United states and by other powers In similar
circumstances, IN the case OF the new Spanish
American republics prior to their recognition by
decided by Great Britain; that the state Of war
had absolutely ceased, ana that 1t was no longer
either the right or the duty OF the American govern
ment to treat SPAN and Peru belligerents, or to
subject either OF those governments to any resric-
tons IN the ports OF the United States. On the 20tn
OF April, 1858, Mr. Seward replied, requesting fur
ther information on the subject Mr.. Garcia re-
joined the Sth OF May, 1885, asseveratlng In the
most explicit terms that "a formal state OF war no
PERU and Spain, and making further explanations,
as desired by Mr. Seward ON the 10th Of July 1868.
argument with citation OF authorities OF public
law and reference to historical precedents and with
reiterated and formal declarations that the state OF
war between Peru and Spain has ceased and that
the state OF peace exists, in so far as regards all
questions OF the neutral obligations OF other Powers
The result OF these dispatches was to induce the
American government to allow Peru to purchase In
the United states TWO monitors and despatch them
to Peru. More than year has elapsed since that
occurrence with no change IN the relations OF Peru
ana Spain except IN the lapse OF time which fortiaes
the arguments OF Mr. Garcia II there were no stale
OF war Involving neutral Powers then q nrf,0r,
there il none such n0w
we do NOT know how the present Peruvian Minis.
ter regards these facts; but II would that the
Peruvian government, after thus solemnly assuring
the American government that the war had ceased
and q state OF peace had supervened, and having
taken advantage or tins doctrine as against Span
and induced the American government to accord to
pera the dement's state 81 peace to the prejudice
and pretend now TO the benefits OF a state OF war
to the further prejudice Of spain. in legal phrase
0lOgy, Peru IL now estopped from pretending that
she Is At war with SPAIN
SHOOTING ARRAY IN THE EIGHTH WARD.