The New York herald., 1869-03-14
NEW YORK HERALD SUNDAY MARCH "A, ssa-TRlPLE SHEET

cross-exanlnation resumed-Q. Your meat twas
cut up on the deckY A. Yes
Q. That Is usuai9 A. don't know; was never
usual. because there was no other way OF doing it.
q Did you ever see any one but the carpenter
once give person black eye; never saw the
captain or mate strike the passengers; never saw
the captain looking on while the passengers we're
being struck; have seen the crew frequently beaten
In the presence OF the captain, but not the passen-
gera t@E
the waterf A. On no; the impression was !! was
put in TO make the water appear large; could not
el @ e believe
was the next morning three were brought rom
BY Commissioner McElroy-were the passengers
ever compelled 10 do work by the of1cers A. They
were not compelled we were called out and they
come they would come down and drive US out; the
crew were disabled and we were willing TO do II;
90 not think vs o. tine y @ ece eee S "a Soa eeu
on during the month"; A. The centre; ! slept be-
tween decks; slept on the door Of the deck where
O. Have You ever been in the hold OF the ship 70
allf A. No, only TO get the water up.
q: There were no passengers In the hold at oil
TESTIMONY or PATRICK cAvNEY.
Q. Were you passenger on board the ship James
Foster, Jr., during her last trips A. was; we left
LIVERPOOL on the 12th; am from Yorkshire
Q. What is your businesss A. cloth dresser.
Q. Did you come in the steerage? A. Yes, SIR.
VI .
. complaint TO make against the carpenter and the
o. Were provisions regularly served TO your A.
Oh. no; was almost dead when landed.
q. Whyf A. From starvation.
q. Soecifya A. when have gone for my pro-
visions, when ] would hand my bags into the car.
penter to I'LL them, he generally had man to hold
the bags open for him. and when ne had nlled them
he would throw them In the dirt or wet II we were
not very sharp to pick them up
Q. How about the quantity Of provisionsa A. The
first two times they were served out about right;
a "a hot yUa cYnf 1ooo nd
AQ: Have you any complaint TO make OF the qualityI
a. Oh, it was very bad; the nour and meal were
very salty and there was very little Of It; the pork
was very fair, but the beef was very bad have not
Hs went make to
strong, the first mate, and he would tell me ito 60
to bazes;" the bread was good for TWO OF three
weeks; for about three rations it was middng
o. How was the waterq A. The water IN the be-
ginning was very good, but Afterwards it became
q. When did it get saltyf 4. On being out week
or I've when got with sSn ws
Some Saturdays we would. not get our meat until
20. How were the provisions cookeda A. Well, II
you could thrust In you could get your provisions
cooked, but II the men raised great deal OF bother
them cooked at all; there WAS only one stove; il the
ter he used 70 get hit very often for it; went for
cashire lad on board, who Is now in the hos
pital very bad, and i just went down to
were going to "'bout ship;" as they were all coming
up, and because this man was not up IN moment,
the carpenter said, "Come out OF the way" cursing
pull him Of the ladder, and when he came up he
showed me where the carpenter knocked one OF his
'dittIe Joe y l was never MT myself; l was
going for my water another morning. and
ess was another Mas rodaS
and he fell and came on his nose and forehead on
the top Of sEylght, and he had large lump on
his forehead as big as my fist and his eye was closed
up: one morning he was lying IN his bed; he Is dead
now this man. the carpenter ran out OF his place
with his wastcoat in his hands and the carpen-
ter kicking hun before him and making him come
down to serve out water; ne was nne strong young
worn to nothing when he died; saw the carpenter
beat young man another day with . stick OF wood
he was latherng hlm with a stick; another young
fellow gave this man some money to take MS place;
e we1 S SS Nc Se & E @ e
complained to the first mate about the provisions
several times but never got any more; went Tor
me my meal out he threw 1t on the moor, and 1t was
all spilled but about TWO spoonsiul; told the mate
o' o ssspeasef so so hs sSeo out my Of got got
more there were no 'tatoes" then nothing
but gr and 70 % 10 ssa '1e %
the captain; did not 90 TO present It to him. did
not see II given TO him; knew Il was given to nim;
went and told the captain; j went % him
was .psS about o. snd w got nothing t nss
that week; SO | went to him and got one little
to me he walked on the top OF the cabin; we never
got much sugar; one time l got but table
spoonful or else ! should not have gone back with
1t: had to pull ropes and work at night
Q. Were you compelled to work. A. Yes; II did
not would get no water; when he wanted US to
work the carpenter would shout out, There Is
land" or something Of that kind to get us up to
work; they used TO make us work, but gave US no
o. Were the crew not able to work. A. No; they
were all leathered and drowned and what not; there
were only two men ut to work at one time
Yes; 1t had to be mostly done by the passengers;
got more to eat for the last three days that was
Sesides U what ate III think I'M nave some len now.
Q. How much water was served out during the
whole voyagef A. Well, more or less; you never
Q. what was s,ne bggestf A. should think a
quart; sometimes IL would come up with but pint
throw W m my Sutie one side; the passenger cook
sometimes wVnld give the water out, but ne would
2 VI oan sSe yS1 s sn
have no other complaint, but worked very hard
and am very weak, and what bit Of money had to
q. How did that happeni A. Getting up in the
night 70 work, think; ! was In good health when
Q. How oifen did you 60 up at niehtf A. Some
times did not 60 up at all: we would do II in the
daytime: worked very hard all the voyage.
q. HOwf A. Pulling ropes.
BY Commissioner McElroy-You would not get
any provisions unless you workedf A. No; they
used to say to play us; but lot Of US who were
strong and In good health would tell them we would
work II they would give us more TO eat; we would
get exhausted working; they would give US nothing
more to eat; we were afraid n we did not work We
would get no water
CrossexamIned by Mr.. Hubbard-Q Have you
ever been to sea before this voyagef A. No.
z. You never were saiori A. No.
Q. What provisions did you take on board the ship
OF your own when you starteds A. None: .wore'
about nve and twenty shillIngs with these Germans
lido not know how they lived; they would do any
thing for money; they charged sixpence and Q shi
ling for biscuit; would he nearly choked before
night II did not buy water from the Germans; for
about pannikan OF water they would sometimes
ask etxpence and q shilling.
q. where did they get the water they sold TO your
-. think this carpenter used 10 give them more
water than us: he always stuck up to them; he
always backed the Germans out 10 everything.
q. DO you think he gave them more than your A.
Yes; never saw him hit any Of the Germans.
q. DO you know whether the carpenter Is Ger
man or what he In A. He IL something OF that
sort, think; heard them say, "He Is Q Dutch