The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-07-01

Against .................. IA
Ths oauses from number two to twelve, inclusive.
were then agreed to- without discussion.
Adjourned.
Cruelty to Imprisoned Fenians-The Question
Before Parliamsnt-COmments.o of the Lon.
don Times onthe Debate.
LONDON. June 80, 1869.
In the House Of Commons last night Mr.. Moore
called attention to the treatment of the Fenian prs-
6nefs and moved o resolution that the government
ought TO institute public inquiry into the subject
Of penal discipline and reolasSHcation of the prison
Ell. to inquire how far political prisoners should be
regarded separate class; and to consider how far
fhS severity Of past punishment may be regarded as
Reasonable grond for tho favorable consideration of
their cases. Mr.. Moore said he believed the major.
IT. Of the Irish people Sympathized with the Fe-
MANS. though unwilling to subvert the existing
Arnfneot, and content to bear their present Ills
fatner1 than ny to others they know not Of But no
@ass ~as contented with the present state Of affairs
He strongly condemned the harsh treatment OF the
fenians both before and after trial. and urged pub
lie Inquiry thereinto.
4 M Bruce, the Home SECRETARY, was not prepared
to defend the treatment Of the Fenians, but said
that In general the law was insufficient to deal with
political prisoners. The statements Of cruelty were
however, exaggerated. At present their treatment
vas extremely lenient. They were separated from
the other prisoners, and were not compelled to do
anything degrading or submit to any humiliation.
Mr. Sullivan defended the conduct Of the present
government respecting Feniansm and accused Mr..
Moore Of endeavoring to make political capital by
tAn1ering to the passions of those who have been
'o0dStCted. he hoped the time will soon have ar.
rived when such discussions shall cease and no po-
3itoel prisoners remain in custody.
on division the first part of the resolve was lost
~ vote Of 81 to H.
Hf. Mcguire said IL was impossible to press the
latter part Of the resolve the former portion had
peep uegatived He admitted the general sympathy
of tho Irish with Fenianism. but thought no harm
would result II the government extended clemency
and released the prisoners, those still in custody
tn latter part OF the resolve was then negatived
The House adjourned at forty minutes past two
AN.
the Times this morning. commenting on the
debate In the House OF Commons last night says the
main consideration Of the government is the effect
which the release Of the Fenian prisoners will have
1t must b remembered that all those who
were guilty In an inferior degree have been
set free; only the prime movers or active agents
remain, all OF whom have been sentenced
to long periods OF imprisonments, of which
o small portion only has elapsed. The misery
brought upon individuals and society and the check
TO the prosperity Of Ireland which they had caused
mon who deliberately planned, and In some cases ex
ecuted MURDER cannot be set Free while Others whose
offences are a. nothing In comparison drudge on in
slavery The distinction between political and other
OFFENCES cannot be admitted in the case Of men who
With insufficient cause and no prospect Of success
carried cut their designs with treachery and cruelty.
Murder was not less murder when accompanied by
treason. There was nothing connected with the
murders committed or attempted by the Fenians
which should give the perpetrators the dignity OF
insurgents
John Bright and Mr.. Forster Leave the Re.
form Club.
LONDON, June 80, 1859.
John Bright and william E. Forster have resigned
their membership in the Reform Club In consequence
of the failure OF the committee to elect as honorary
member gentleman whose name they had pro-
posed.
The Proposed Twelfth of July Demonstration
in Ireland.
LONDON, June 80, 1900
In the House Of Commons tonight Mr.. Bruce the
Home Secretary, abiding to the demonstration ex-
pected In ireland on the 18th Of July, said party pro-
cessions were always provocative Of disturbance
ana ought to be prevented. He informed the House
thai the government was determined to enforce
tne law against them and prevent any breach Of the
peace.
The Liverpool Races-Prizes Won and the
Winners.
LIVERPOOL, June 80. 1860.
The Liverpool summer meeting commenced yes-
tsrday.
The Liverpool st. Leger, sweepstakes of 20 sovs
HQcu, with 500 sovs. added, for three year ODDS
nv won by Mr.. r. Eastwoods en-. c. Blair Drum.
mooa date Shenningford) beating Mr.. A. McDonagh's
,. q Royal Boy. by Young Melbourne, out OF sister
q Gay Rosalind second; and Mr.. saxons b. O.
Cbassepot by Rataplan, out of Minnie, by weather.
Va tArd The betting at the start stood two to one
f4&pst the winner, three to one against Royal Boy
end nvs to one against Chassepot.
Tho Great Lancashire Produce Stakes. Of ten