The New York herald., 1869-03-03
ENGLAND.
Mr.. Glsdstonc's Speech In the House Of
Commons the Observation-Disclosures of the
Irlsh Church.

Mr.. Gia6stouc's Speech In the House Of
Commons the Disesfabiishment of the
Irish Church.
LONDON, March 2. 1899.
In the House OF Commons last evening the Pre-
mier, Mr. Gladstone, moved for leave to introduces
bill to dlsestabish the Irish Church. TO make pro-
vision for its temporaities and to disendow the
Royal College OF st. Patrick at Maynooth Mr.
Gladstone followed up his motion with speech In
defense and explanation OF the provisions OF the
bill. After commenting on the gravity and import
ance OF the task. he said he was aware OF the
necessity OF giving historical and political reasons
for proposing such q constitutional change;
reasons which would show the anomaly OF the
present position and the consciousness IN Parlia
ment OF the dcultiesor such position. The House,
at times had been induced to waste the property or
the Irish Church, SO that its magnitude might not
shock the public mind. II had been necessary at
times TO support the ascendancy OF the Church by
the enactment OF penal laws. II this ascendancy
were maintained, bitter feelings on the part OF
the Irish people would never cease. Adverting
to previous action on this measure, Mr.
Gladstone declared that 1t had resulted In
making the House and the country unanimous Tor
disesablishment He would not dwell upon the argu-
ments which had been put forward against 1t, but
he denied that his course was adverse to the welfare
OF religion and interests OF Professionalism; he denied
that II contemplated invasion OF the rights OF pro-
perty, arguing that Parliament which had the right
to create corporations had an equal right to extin
guish them. He referred to the objections to dis
establishment. which were based upon the Act OF
Union, and answered them by maintaining that the
Irish Church, as at present constituted, defeated
the intent OF that act and prevented any
real union between the people OF Eng
land and Ireland; the only means Of establish
ing that union were religious liberty and civil equal
ity. The bill would be conclusive. shutting out all
controversy, but carrying with 1t no penalty or PAIN
He proceeded to explain that the bill is intended to
go into eject on and after the drst day OF January
1871. AS soon as it has received the royal assent
commission will be appointed for a period Of ten
years to guard the property Of the Church, and to
prevent the creation Of any new interests. All &C.
clesastical appointments for Ireland hereafter are
to be made without freehold. No money Is to be
employed for permanent purposes. These provisions
are to take the place OF the suspensory measures
passed last year. 1t Is assumed that the clergy
and people may desire to have other religious or
ganzations for those which they were about to give
up. In such case the Queen In Council would recog
nize the newly constituted religious bodies but
would not create them. The result would be the
abolition Of ecclesiastical courts and Jurisdiction and
OF the rights OF bishops to the peerage; all ecclesas
disestablishment Of the Irish Church would be CON-
plete. Provision made for the clergy, who to
receive life annuies. All private endowments to
remain intact. The Church is to be handed over
to a council for religious purposes. Grants pro-
posed for the support Of ST. Patrick's and eleven
other cathedras these structures being regarded
national property. Church buildings no longer re-
Quired are to be handed to the Board of Works
Tor the benefit Of fund. and burial grounds are to
be placed under chargeio Guardians OF the Poor.
The Presbyterian clergy are to receive annuities
in lien OF the regiuna donun, and the Roman
Catholic college at Maynooth and the Pres
byterian colleges are TO be granted capital
lied sums OF money. Further legislation Is to
be had in regard to Trinity College. tithe rent
charge will be offered to land owners at twenty-five
and haf years. purchase. Church leases are to be
sold, tenants having the first option. The capital
ized value of the Church property Is estimated at
fl85ooOoo Of which fs, Is to be appropriated
to compensation, and the remainder, In the words OF
the preamble to the BILL .is to be employed for the
advantage Of the Irish people not for the purposes
any church class, for the teaching OF religion,
but for relief IN cases OF unavoidable calamity,
or suffering, while at the time 1t is not to can
Gel the obligations laid upon property for the relief
OF the poor.n Grants also to be made to provide
for the Of lunatics for the training OF
and for the support OF county nnrmaries. Mr.. Glad
stone proceeded at considerable length urge upon
the House the great results which were to be ex-
pected from the passage OF this measure in the tran
GUILTY. OF Ireland and the greater union, security
and power Of the empire.
Mr.. Disraeli followed Mr.. Gladstone, anc spoke
breny. He said he regarded the policy Of the ad-
ministration In regard to the Irish Church polI
caly wrong and their bill as act Of connscation.
But the government had right to bring the matter
before the House for full and thorough discussion
and he would not oppose the Introduction OF the
bill.
The motion made by Mr.. Gladstone was then
agreed to.
The Dill was introduced and read for the rst time
The 18th Of March was appointed for the second
reading.
The House then adjourned.
The Times to-day saws the scheme for the discs
tablishment OF the Irish Church proposed by Mr..
Gladstone fairly accomplshes the task ana the gov.
ernment deserves the support OF Parliament