New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1869-11-19
WOMEN AS DOCTORS

has however, been given TO the dlscussioh Ny INC
issue few days ago. of card by the racuity Oh Vne
| Women's College in which they dlsclan tue geheral
impression that the ladies were 10 atehu le lectues
udscrimnately, and ayow their 'oelie1 that IN all
,vo;l diseases of men and women and in all opera
tions necessarily involving embarrassing exposure Oh
rerson II Is not fitting or expedent that students
! ~ different sexes should attend promiscuOuSly.
We nrint below various communications and ex-
tracts an the subject. some of which were written
before the statement of the Faculty was published
| In.tbs new development of this controversy these
| communications, embracing views from divers
! standpoints will be read with fresh interest
WHAT THE DOCTORS THINK OF THE QUESTION.
The following has been adopted by the
Faculty Of the Philadelphia University Of Medicine ana
| Surgery: ..
students and colleges that would involve all ana
students in the CITY we, the Fseay OF .e t I
part the proceedings relating 10 the IeinsIes
the Pennsylvania Hospital regard inc ACTIONS VI tnOSe
who have derOgatOry 70 the dlgny and honoT
of medical institutions, ana DeheVo we silhe
has passed when female culture ana talent should nor
ouIy be cultivated bnt appropriated TO alleviate the
Ills and correct the defects OF our PHYSICAL lheeetua
and moral condition We also depreeate any interference
on The part of medical students others, with the time
hOporpd and well regulated Pennsylvania Hospital ana
are happy to inform public that the students OF the
Phiiadephia University Of Medicine aud Surgery have
taken no part with the University OF PennsylVaha ana
Jefferson Medical College the hand OF the Eclectic
and Homeopathic institutions the other, nor can We
approve OF the conduct Of sister institutions OF legi
mate medicine Signed by all the members OF the Faculty
| pEAN ROGERS ON THE TRADE OF PHILADELPHIA.
| To tie Editor of The Tribune.
| SIR: Under the cooling solicitation OF an :" In
teryiewer" Dean Rogers the Pennsylvania University,
is thus reported 70 have expressed himself in reference
10 public criticism on the behavior Of medical students
The result Of all this abuse will be TO bring the students
and medical schools Of Philadelphia into discredit ABROAD
Philadelphia Medical Colleges draw to the city annually
students and the effect OF this senseess TRADE
against them will operate against every material interest
OF the city These young the means OF bringing
vast trade 20 Philadelphia from every section OF the
country and If they are driven away our trade must
suffer considerably" We had thought that such tlnnd
and ignoble language banished TO the dietion-
aries OF Archaic English. There was enough OF
II In the last decade. II at that time a GER
tain class OF offenders was occasionally chastlsed
by an outspOken journal there were protesting
hands stretched out, and quavenng voices uttered
fearful forebodngs of essened Traffic; while soothing
cataplasm speedily applied to wounded feelings aud
all was But the rigorous climate that oh
tanned during the ensuing years OF battle either struck
the chill of death all such weakngs, or braced them
10 better action. Can II be that any escaped the moral
thunderstorm 10y slumber Has Iryings somnolent hero
glorious hubbub and now half awake resume their sus
pended croak The lamentations of Dean Rogers are
to harmful. and think TIE tradeof Philadelphia VIII
survive the threatened uls. Yours DC. We N,
Philadelphia, Nov. Is
ANOTHER vIEw--THF WOMEN CRITICIZED BY
WOMAN.
To the Editor OF The Tribune.
SIR: The difficulty in the Philadelphia Med
ical school has resulted Lold In tho triumph OF
the ladies, who went to the last clinical lecture In body
while but q small number OF the male students were
present II is triumph which appears 10 more dis
astrous than defeat The indignation with which the
press rebuked tho brutal conduct Of the young men,
few days ago. just; nothing can excuse Vanon IN
suit to woman bat at the time there were few
candid moderate who did not question whether the
course female students had been marked by that
wise foresight discretion which should characterize
the leaders of great reform The question lies outside Of
any transient squabble I'm the Philadelphia schools The
chance for in the study OF medicine one OF too
great importance 20 allow II 70 suffer from the lack OF
Judgment OF these few young girls without rebuke The
sole objection TO pursuing this career has been
the lack of decacy IT, female student, therefore.
who great haste TO throw aside the uiodesty
which nature has given her and to unnecessarily pull
down the barrier between the Injuries nor
more than all the insults OF the Philadelphia Doors VIII
aid IT, Nature may have made mistake In giving her
primarily a sense of decency but men are not apt to
think So 1t is the same fatal that by which the
WOmans Rights leaders ininring their cause when
they strive to stand the soo eve with men by being
more elamorous and shreI.tongued than they.
Now. how far must the study Of science rob woman
OF mOdestyi There false shame shameful a. guilt
Heaven forbid that we should defend II! There IA
decency without which woman is not woman. IL Il time
10 look 10 Il that wives and daughters n their zeal
for sciences do not trample under foot The facts Of
this recent case briefly these learn them from
the Managers OF Hospital and Professors In the Uni
versity-men strongly in favor Of woman physicians;
Attached the Female Medical College is hospital for
the treatment OF diseases OF women and children, IN
which weekly clinical lectures given for the benefit
OF female students The clinics Of the great Pennsy
al nd IN
OF surgical operations, many Of which 10 Is highly i'm
probable woman will be called upon 10 perform
while male practitioner be found 10 operate upOn
his own sex To these lectures the students OF the
Wonans College requested TO be admitted and In con
sequence application the professors stated to the
male students that hereafter certain class OF subjects
must be excluded MISREPRESENTATION, they deemed
them unfit 10 be submitted a mixed audience Even
the Managers thought this hardly fair 20 the men, who
lad paid for the lectures and whose practice hereafter
would call knowledge of these very subjects Re
female physicians that modesty. that
be attended by OF her own sex the demand seemed
II there be indelicacy IN n consulting with
old aud tried physician upon her own ailments as tho
female practitioners allegc, what shall We
think or these young girls sitting Gown OF their own
choice go examine the most hidden diseases sac by sde
with hundreds Of young and a. the result proved, coarse
minded menf The out OF til" dlculty was an easy
sue. The male and female students could attend the
clinics alternate days The young men OF the better
sort urged this plan But the ladies' made no condition
or tie KIND IN their request 1hey uoit ~
day OF their first appearance some OF the male
patients whose sense OF modesty had not yet been
merged devotion 70 science refused IN be operated
upon IN the presence OF women One such operation did
take place that the surgical treatment of the hip in
the course OF which the insulting eers occurred which
have properly eensured The more refined Of the
students withdrew. and missed the operation; the
surgeon was conscious OF the presence OF a mixed
audience as to be sensby hiDdered and embarrassed
patient himself showed In hF pain is sense OF
shame. The lady students alone, told by their
admirers, unmoved, and looked Oh win calm un
Winking serenity
II was a miraculous triumph OF devotion ca scence
over nature but miracle not apt repeat itsef
m the case weaker sisters IL u best 70 throw IN
necessary obstacles OF such women Did II
not occur 10 these triumphant young ladies when they
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