The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-10-08
UP TOWN TRAvEE.

Nineteenth Ward Citizens, Observation-Disclosures
view with Mayor Uali-Extra Stage Gems
niunicatiOn Demanded with Up TOwn-The
DIadison Avenue Grading.
A delegation, comprising one hundred or more OF
the leading residents OF tine Nineteenth ward COM
prising the committee nom the Nineteenth Ward
Citizens Association waited upon Mayor Hall yes
terday at noon 10 relation to the necessity OF add
tionai rail- or stage communication between the
upper and lower ends OF the island. The committee
assembled in the Governors Room in accordance
with the invitation OF Mayor Hall, and In
q few minutes the Mayor entered the
room. After saluting few OF his personal friends
who were present the Mayor said. "Well gentle.
men, suppose be seated far the capacity OF
the antlquated furniture OF this room will allow.
Mr.. JOHN FOLEY. president or the association ana
chairman OF the committee, said-Mr. Mayor these
gentlemen, representing the citizens OF the Nine.
teenth ward, have assembled here. neglecting their
business for the purpose OF presenting to you state
ment OF what they endure, and asking your assist.
ance
Mayor HALL beg leave to correct you. In one
particular they have not neglected their business
In assembling here the contrary, think they are
attending to It, approving laughter from all
presently
Mr.. FOLEY, having smlllngly accepted the amend
ing petition:-
To his Honor A. oAKgY HAIL. Mayor Of the City OF New
The undersigned, citizens of the Nineteenth ward and
bers OF the above named association complain of the
wan, Of stage and railroad between Yorkyo and
takes over hour 10 reach the city Half, while the
s%casyavs miles distant can reach the same point IN les:
time, that too comfortably seated IL web ventllaed
Wiling 10 hsas straps ne l'Sy Third avenue cara
part Of our local officials.
.a ss as a or chang e
ng Old one. or competing the Madison avenue aud Fifth ave
the Harlem Railroad Company to stop train. :. snsns
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to the to sS
add ' s.
and pledge ourselves not TO vote for any Mayor Alderman
aid us In obtaining the relief we ask Of you.
MIR. FOLEY said-Ths petition, Mr. Mayor. Is
signed by nearly one thousand OF the good people
or the Twelfth and Nineteenth wards and as chair
man Of the organization by which this petition was
originated must tell you frankly II doubt II your
Honor will think less Of me for 80 doing being man
OF business like PLAN talk The people of this city
should know just what we have to contend with.
1t has been stated that we could not procure the
relief necessary from the Common Council unless
we brought down here forty or fifty thousand dol.
lars, even then the result would be doubtful, aud
why; because, 1t would interfere with one OF
the other stage route-the proprietor OF which
Is prominent member OF the TammanY
Hall ''rlng." or said to be. The time may be
near at hand when the people Of New York, viii have
to look into and demand strict account OF the
$780, 900 said 10 be spent to carry the city gov
eminent annually; and the four or Ave gentlemen
constituting the Tammany Hall ''ringn which it is
conceded governs the city ana Its immense popula
ton, must understand. once for all, that II the
people do look on quietly and observe these same
gentlemen accumulate millions Of money which
they call their own, that some little consideration Is
due to the people OF TINS city. Sewers built,
streets are opened and other Improvements mace.
for so doing our property Is assessed, and then
We have no meals of access to II, and this
is the actual condition of nearly all the
valuable properly north OF Forty second street.
between Fifth and Third avenues. The people
OF Yorkvllle have b rne this evil long enough.
The poor worklngman tho delicate female ana
children, who are compelled to use the Third ave-
cara, often forced to stand for hours packed
and, ta4med together far worse than cattia-arai;
SICK patients. iiesn FROM Blackwels and Wards
islands. How long Is tins to contnue9 only during
your honoi's pleasure, for We are now ready TO
prove that the Common Council has the power to
change some OF the present stage routes to run up
Fifth, Madison and Lexington avenues TO Eighty
hours; and also to compel the Harlem Railroad Com
pany TO cars on Madison avenue at once. One OF
the leading morning Journals asks II we, the people
slater Like most OF the residents OF the district
am democrat. and think know the disposition
OF the people OF the Twelfth and Nineteenth wards.
l say no. Our people are determined not to submit
any longer to this outrage, and am instructed 20
say say s Ta uess we on nave see
be elected IN our district this fall. You may by your
refusal force us into this position, and II 30, my
word for It, the Tammany slate Will be sadly out Of
order after the election Mr.. h. w. Townsend has
kindly consented to act as counsel for the associa
ton. lie, think, will be able TO satisfy your Honor
from acts passed in 1854 and 1857, that the Mayor
and Common Council have all the power necessary
TO grant the relief we ask.
Mr.. Foley then handed the petition and his nd
dress to the Mayor, who said:-
understand the address you have just been read
Mr.. FoLEY-ies sir, 1t ts my own, but 1t Is en-
dorscd by all the members OF our association:
Mayor HALI--There Is q great deal OF your
rhetoric which do not agree with. l don't know
about any 'tIlalti ring IN this matter | can only
hear OF an 0akes Han ring at present, and must
say that am very happy TO be In the ring that Is
present here. Now, MIR. Townsend would like to
have you demonstrate that any persons short OF the
Legislature have any right TO interfere with the
transit through tne city by either stage or railroad
hlr. TowEsEND-In the act authorizing the estab-
lisnmen OF stage routes-m the laws OF 1854, volume
l, page 325-we lad the fourteenth section Of that
act that before any stage route should be esab
lished--exceptlng, or course, such routes as were
then In Observation-Disclosures should be made i'm
writing to the Mayor OF the CITY, setting forth the
route and the numoer OF stages purposed TO be rum
and that unless the Mayor snail send such appiica-
ton, with his approval, to the Common Council, and
a majority OF ina members of both Boards Of tho
shall be established And In section seventeen OF the
same act 1t provides that the Common Council shall
have the right to make arrangements for running
such lines OF stages may be necessary for the
venfence OF citizens and not incompatible with the
convenience OF the streets IN which the route is laid
In athe stage act passed IN 1867, aud which we
know was passed In the interest of the then existing
stage monopolies, t Is provided that no new stage
route shall DO authorized by the Common Council
unless a majority OF the property owners on such
streets or avenues In or on which such proposed
route is laid shall first consent in writing; and ia Sec
ton second or the same act 1t Is provided that
nothing contained in the act shall be construed 10
interfere with existing franchises and any franchise
granted thereafter shall be disposed Of at auction
the highest bidder, IN the same manner as other
franchises are disposed Of
Mr.. Townsend then went on to dilate on the insult
nclency OF communication with down town, and
said that Ia the immense territory from Fortieth
and Third avenue, there was method OF commu-
nica!ion with down town except by the Third ave-
nue. railroad. Now come TO you as a magistrate