The New York herald., 1869-02-12

Own law. HOW Wout ~ ioon no IN
of the gentleman lr. Butlery and thas ia that the
House should be authorized 70 use q gentleman's
olnt Convention to kick 1t outr c rnrtlamsn ,y sno
rom Massachusetts, should bs the captain IN the
nSa 0pefa,'Un his sp tmns the gentle
brought down the gallerle ra sn,;t the ears of the
aud Il NJ .slrated the animns Of his
a,,'on .ce IL here as resolution OF
@ r enc nee 1t as resolution OF anarchy
The dea o. me OF Representatives kicking the
Senate oi the United States About that time you
sass poSeS speas ~
Iects Of your country's ruin than did the mil
psn q ren who for four years waged war upon your
constitution and your laws, drenching your land
with blood and bridging it all over with graves.
M,. BUTLER (asidel-I always did like that speech
Mr.. BiScasm, M Ii not Iearng the remark, went on to
say-It was the sworn duty OF the President OF the
senate 70 obey the law, whether ne approved OF y
ana invasion OF its rights MI. Speaker 1t win be
that the House OF Representatives denounces a COM
missoned officer OF the people, acting under the OBJ
gaton Of hls se oath for oOsyns oss the
would disgrace any assembly Of men that
ever convened on the face Of Gods earth.
Wade for standing In his placeyesterdayand saying,
"come what VIII win ahidelthe law" NOtwithstand-
np enann~ that hs teIes as reopred
by the concurrent resolution, should announce the
result not contrary to law, but in accordance with
any other in his life that act entitled him to the
respect and consideration OF his countrymen and
e he had fallen amid the clamor and tumult
might be written on his grave 'Go. tell
those who survive me that lie here
clamor OF the mob.n SIR denounce the gentleman's
proposition OF anarchy, that anarchy which has no
heart and cannot feel, but in its frenzy and in its
madness, tramples down law and order-trampes
childhood ana youth, and defenceless womanh0od
and vigorous manho0d-Which, in Its fury and its
madness puts out the light and scatters the sweet
voices OF home. ask the representatives Of the
people 10 put their seal OF condemnation upon it, and
TO put the thing on the table there 10 rot.
Mr. ScnENCk, trep.) OF Ohio, was the next speaker.
He said that there was nothing further from his in
feeling about tile question. No person could regret
more than he did the very painful scenes that took
place here yesterday. The disorder, 1t might be
SAID, was principally on his side OF the House, and
confined to members OF the House OF Representa-
tives and to members OF theldominant patty OF the
country. From that he drew this lesson and this
inference-Here sat republicans witnessing with
satisfaction the result or their labors in the late
chosen to be President and Vice President
were TO be declared elected as such, and
wo coaa not De supposed a lat
disposition to interfere with and prevent the decla-
ration Of that result for which they had so much
accomplished. How, then, said he do you account
for It that the very friends OF those who were to be
OeCfdreQ fTeSl0e0t ana wee PTe6l0ent BQOul0 nave
been the persons who made objection to the course
OF procedure here, unless you give them credit for
some feeling OF indignation or sense Of Improperly
In the character OF that proceedingS ! shared In
it and believing that all that then occurred
grave and important question with reference to the
relative rights OF the House and Senate before the
people OF the country, and am not disposed either
TO be seduced by the rhetoric Of my colleague Mr.
Bingham), or Dy any general denunciattcn from any
source from asserting what believe in reference TO
oficer OF the Senate transcribed the limits which
ought to have shut in the action Of the Senate in
connection with the House Of Representatives yes.
terday. My colleague (Mr. Shellabarger), who FIRST
addressed the House this morning. gave us, In his
very forcibe and logical manner, his views Of the
law and legislation. l think however, that
my colleague was not SO happy as usual in
connecting MS premises and conclusions IN that ar
and 70 reply to the legal and constitutional argu-
ments. Of his colleague and also to show the
ventl0n was bound by the concurrent resolu-
ton. He illustrated the latter point In tnis way
md certificate Of the vote Of State without any
signature or seal, was he to count its Suppose he
found IN the envelope an old newspapers Suppose
South Carolina was not the Convention to take notice
OF that because the concurrent resolution did not
reokoned twenty, instead OF nine was the Presi-
dent OF the Senate acting still In his mere automatic
l w be 80 ad So and +
viii be so and sofn The concurrent resolution did
mot touch the question as to what should be done
the question OF counting. IL dealt with none ofthose
grave, serious forms that were to be observed IN
or not. 1t stopped at the threshold or preliminary
question and provided what should be done, so that
there should be no committaI on the question OF
Georgia being State in the Union. But It left ali
that related TO the count and TO the form OF cert
cate to its suflclency entirely open, to be disposed
OF under the joint rules Of the two houses. That was
his proposition. Gentlemen had all along begged
the question, and none more so than his colleague
!Mr: B.ngnaml when he denounced the views OF
Mr.: BINGHAx-I never denounce the views OF men
at all ] denounce revolutions.
thought be denounced this proceeding revolution
Mr. BNsnAx-I said that the resolution is revou.
Mr.. scHEScK-And the gentleman said something
about anarchy, In which he scared so high that /
that speech. lLaughter.l Nv colleague and others
have assumed that the two acts OF iegislation-the
concurrent resolution OF last Monday ana the Joint
ruesconict with each other SO that the last passcd
In the language OF the Speaker 'repeals The other''
! hold TO no such doctrine. say that there
that may arise, after the certificate IL opened az to
what Is In IL; while the concurrent resolution stops
nary question, whether or not we should commit
ourselves on the question, Whether Georgia Is or is
not entitled to representation and entitled 70 have
electors for President and Vice President The
two so FAR from being irreconcilahc, exist and
be sustained without one being regarded conflict
ing with or operating as repeal Of the other. Mr..
Scnenck developed this idea at considerable length,
aud reviewed the proceedings Of yesterday down to
the point where the presiding officer announced that
the objection or the gentleman from Massachusetts,
was oyerruled. The Senate and gentlemen wonder
he continued, that any OF us should conclude
that 10 any form OF language whatever II is proper
70 consider this decision invasion OF the rights OF
the House OF Representatives IL 1t be not an inya-
son of the rights OF the House, then we are the
merest ornamental appendage to this proceeding OF
counting the votes that ever one body made when
uancing attendance on another. IL was an attempt
70 crush down all tie rights and immunites OF the
rouse OF representatives In the solemn procedure
oi counting the votes. We have often heard from
our worthy speaker about the propriety OF standing
up Dy the rights OF the commons or the representa-
uves OF tne people. l thank him for many good
saying on that subject II Is idle, and worse than
ide, LOT the House OF Representatives. under the
CONSTITUTION, under your Joint rules under any cir.
cumstances, TO come here and assist al the openin0
o. tnese votes, " tue Senate, through It's presiding
omcer, might cooily come In, II the two bodies
separated on any question and say that on second
thought they had agreed 10 overruIe what was rro
mn a.I h tlT II..txa -.