The New York herald., 1869-11-21

thas year, and for the purpose OF affecting the tga
to do with the litigation; never paid any attention
to VI thoasht when purchased y taat nat s was z
good purchase; thought It was worth the money!
supposed 1t was good stock.
O. Did you think 1t would riser A. Isupposed 1t
.1 was S
ade with Mr. Drew came 10 be carried out BY Mr.
souid Z A. That was . matter between MI; G Gou'q
recoIlect perfectly well when l made That contract
with Mr.. Drew. said, 81 must have an understand
ing about the matter; WIN not sell the Erie Rail
way anything Will have nothing to do with II;
am purchasing this stock for myself;' said that
got into so many dircuitles that would not have
anything to do with them; made up my mind
way and have always stuck to that since, ''''''
q. Did you suppose that Mr.. Drew was acting for
the Erie Railroad in that negotiation or purchaser
a. No; not alter he told me he was not
@. Well, previousys A. don't know but what
might; may be might not have thought OF such .
that would not have anything to do with the Erie
Railroad in any way.
be carried out BY Mr., Goutds How came Mr. Drew's
contract to be carried out by Mr.. Gould, A That
Is matter between Mr.. Gould and Mr..
Mr.; Drew that Mr.. Eldrioge came to HIM
and wanted to make some arrangement about
that so 900 shares OF stock; that is what Mr. Drew
told me: Mr.. Eldridge called on me then and asked
mel think Mr.. Drew was IN the front oflce ut the
same tme-the object OF Mr.. Eldridge calling on
was 10 pay me this money IN money; MIR. Eldridge
had lot OF his boston-Erie bonds that he wanted
getting portion OF these bonds or and taking Mr..
prew's money; that was the object he had as l
supposed; TOOK on that account 625 bonds, think
that cancelled that 200 shares at the price OF So
consequently he had but $3,500 900 to pay instead
OF four; suppose that was Mr. Eldrdges motlye the
$4,000 shares were finally paid by 625 OF these Boston
and Erie bonds for half million; Mr.. Gould brought
me in certified check for million OF dollars to-
gether with these bonds; he then said "Here is q
these bonds. III you send these $4,000 shares OF
at twelve O'Clock to-day, he VIII take them and give
two and half mililons more Of money" sent the
stock down TO Work, Davis Borden and they did
the rest OF the business; they gave credit the
money.
q Did they receive any instruction from your A.
Not anything more than just that.
O. Did yoa know Or were you Informed that at or
about that time the litigation OF which 1 have
spoken was setteds A. have no doubt heard it;
as stated before had not anything to do with the
litigation in any shape form or way-not to the In
| terest OF penny, nor never had In any litigation
q. Were you not informed that the purchase from
you was part OF the settlement OF that ltigatons A.
No; whenever they talked to me about lItigations
always threw II out and said Il want to hear moth
| Ing about your liugatlonS.'
| z. Who talked with you about ltigationss A. 1
/ can't say who.
q. Was it part OF the arrangement that you should
give the Erie, Railroad Company the option of pur-
chasing nfty thousand more shares at the same Tuner
| A. No, not the Erie.
| Question repeated. A. No.
q. Please to look at the paper now shown you and
| tell me whether 1t Is signed 10y your A. THAT looks
very much Ike my name.
9. Is lt your name? A. should think 1t was, sir
mr. Field here read the paper alluded to, which
purported to be agreement with the Erie Railroad
Company, or Mr.. Eldridge, or Jay Could and their
assignees to hold nye millions OF stock OF the Erie
Railroad Company. &c.I
Witness-I think that is very correct.
Q. Do you now say you had nothing TO do with
was not part or this 50,O 900.
u In point OF iact. was 1t not part OF that ar
Company the option OF buying $4,000 more shares
A. No. 1 never made tnat arrangement with Mr.
Drew when tlat agreement came to be made they
asked me II nad any more stock; said yes and
they said, "Wil you sell US $4,000 shares for SO
much moneyfn ] think it Is likely Mr.. Eidridge
asked that; supposed was dealing with him. did
not suppose was dealing with the Erie Railroad at
all; had nothing to do with the Erie Railroad In
q Was anything ever done in respect to that
agreement afierf A. No; never heard Of it. only
supposed they did not call for the stock.
q Do you not know or believe that the So 500 900
came from The Erie Railroad Company No, do
not
came from themy A. No, do not; at the time
took that certified check for OO0 600 never looked
at It to see who had signed the cheek did care
as long as it was certified; but then, nigh have
been little renllss.
a. Who gave you that check9 A. Mr.. Gould,
think.
q. When did Mr.. Gould first intervene In the trans
actlons A. Wen, now, declare can't tell you, Mr..
Field; 1t strikes me Mr. Gould knew had made a
sale with Mr.. Drew Of this amount OF STOCK and
whether he came to me to let him or or not and sub
stitute another l not positive; but / said |
would take any one else he had mind to except the
Erie Railway Company, Tor Lwas afraid 1t would
get me into difficulty.
e. LOOK at these two checks and tell me whether
you have not mistaken the transaction altogether
whether there were not two checks, and neither
tnedY A. No. they were not given To me; thought |
there was but one check gwen TO me.
q. Are you confident there was but one check and |
think SO STILL
Q. Look at that check and tell me whether it was
ehecK handed TO o nos
anything about that check Mr. Field.
z. WI you look at this check again and say
whether that check did pass through your hands?
a. nave not the slightest recollection OF that check
Ia the world.
q. Has It your Endorsement A. That looks very
much IKE my name.
O. To the best OF your recollection and belief is it
A. Well am not gong TO swear anything about
my name there IS way TO correct this IL 1t cor
rect my BANK book Will tell IL.
z. DO you know your signatures A. Yes, should
THINK tnat that my signature but Will not
swear positively about 1t; recolect check OF
that KIND came into for $1,000 which was for
gery ana would never have detected IT except from
my bank book.
q. DO you believe this to be forgery A. can't
question repeated. A. Az long as there Is a way
for me to prove this positively within my reach. II
have gos tnat amount Of money deposited In the
bank, my bank book VIII tell It, II have not it Is
forgery; II that signature 10 up anywhere
outside OF such litigation as this should think it Is
o. WIN you not swear YOU believe IL to be yoursY
A. cannot say any more
@. DO you know the signature OF Work DAVIS a.
Bordeng No, / am the poorest Judge IN the word
OF signatures
Q. Look at that check and say whether it went to
Work, Davis & Borden, your brokers 7 A. No, |
can't tell.
O. Have you had their signature frequently A.
Yes, a thousand times, and would not swear to il
any day.
4. Is that signature OF theirs which you would
take in q business TRANSACTIONS A. Well, I don't
know; would take any signature they would give
me.
Question repeated. A. II is likely should. do
not examine all these things closely, Mr.. Field.
Mr. Field here read check No. liz, dated New
YORK., July II, 1868, and bearing the name OF the
Manhattan Company, with the Erie Railroad Com
pany printed on the margin and directing the pay
ment Of 100000 to the order OF Jay Gould treas.
urer and endorsed &c. Vanderbilt Esq.,
O. say whether that refreshes your memory 40 "a
to enable you say tnat that was the check given