The New York herald., 1869-03-31

also disestabiish and di6end0W the Church 0f Eng
land and the Presbyterian Church or Scotland. In
Scotland and In Wales 1t was clear that d,sseners
from the established religions constituted large
were applied 10 them as we're 10 the Irish Church
there could be doubt that their disestablishment
and disendowment must inevitably follow
The honorable gentleman was followed by Sir
John Grey, Sir S. Nortncote Sir +. neygate, Lord
CrIchton, Mr.. Meall Mr. Bright and Others.
Mir. Bright said that he had no falth In political re
iiglous establishments, but he was willing to admit
thai the Established Church IN England had the as
however IN now before the onss svps Was wener stats
church was good for Ireland and the opposers OF the
measure had utterly failed to show that y was or
that the opinion OF the whole civilized world, which
condemned the Irish Church, was wrong. He would
not appeal to the verdict OF the last Parliament
nor to the declared opinion OF the constituencies at
the last election but would be content to take the
opinion OF trusted leader OF the conservative party
who had been member OF two administrations
Lynn, who certainty was not gwen to needless
rhetoric, but was the most calm and deliberate
speaker perhaps, In the House. The nObo lord, At
banquet OF his firm friends at Bristol with evident
feeling described the unsatisfactory state OF Ireland
Those were solemn words, but not more so than the
occasion warranted. We'll, last session Lord MAYO,
on ne part @ % the ate o. great Length
but II was found to be so impractcable that the
noble lord, from the exigencies OF his friends was
obliged to disown It, and II was then found that the
late government mad no policy as REGARDED Ireland
at all. Mark the difference now. The head OF the
present government in his turn proposed q policy
towards ireland which at once commended itself TO
the whole OF the United Kinodom-to England and
to Protestant Scotland IS well as 70 Catholic Ireland
The late government confessed itself unable 70
deal with Ireland but the policy OF the present gov
eminent had met with universal approval. The
speeches OF the opposition In this debate confessed
1t. No one knew this better than the head OF the
late government. who had recognized the necessity
when in Office, mad not the power or the courage to
grapple with the question In the manner In which he
himself had wears ago Indicated IT was fact that
the Established Church OF ireland the church OF
conquest, and by no possibility could the church or
small minority Of Protestants have remained
established for 80 many centuries IN the midst OF a
nation OF Catholics, except By the force OF the same
power which had established it. To establish
church in such circumstances was most fagrant
violation Of the principles Of the Reformation, and
conservatives fifty years hence-for there always
would be conservative pary-woud look back
with surprise at the conduct OF their predecessors IN
supporting in the year 1859 Protestant State
Church III Ireland after the experience OF 800 years.
Count Cayour which pointedy described the results
oi the state Church IN keeping up dlsafecti0n and
religious animostles in Ireland. and declared that
the state OF the peasantry in Ireland was worse than
that OF the slaves III the Antilles.
For 500 years the Irish people had every day and
state Church IN lrelaud. In England The State
Church was not the symbol OF conquest; but II IL
had been forced on the country by Power across
the Channel, those who were opposed to it would
not have regarded 1t with the same equdnlmity as
tneJ did now. the right honorable gentleman
(Mr. Disraei) said that 1t the only security for
liberation, but he appeared 10 make his history as
he went on and, ike yoltaire, wrote history better
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state Church. but to the Puritans and TO their
descendants the nonconformiss, tnat the religious
in their religious suscepbies :e never fopSoS i
until the cause was absolutely removed. They
would tolerate alien governors and alien judges
but not wound IN this tender point; and untll
the ranking sore that 1t created was removed per
feet union between England and Ireland utterly
impossible The result OF this policy that
moment ireland was not only more Catholic but what
was worse, more Roman than any Otner country
In Europe The policy OF state Church had not only
III Of amt aGQ n6an ncv
was tnat they nad made Catholicism not only latin
but patriotism, for winch the Irish people were not
only ready 10 suffer buC to die. since the UniOn
during the seventy years which this House mad gov
erled Ireland, 1t had always been re5Cless with dis
up and they could ony come 70 The conclusi iha
the Protestant Church, instead Of being q healthy
light Of the Reformation, mad been nothing but
noble the country. Tie result that peace aud
loyalty, industry aud charity had disappeared under
he was Tor union, bat true. Just ana solid
union, such as every enlightened statesman for the
last seventy years had hoped ior bat feared he could
never accomplish such . union ho was convinced
would be infinitely better for tae real interests OF
both countries than any severan>.. Lyery irishman
for the result OF these debates 1Ae fenlan agitation
was led, TO q certain exieat. by the sympathy OF
Americans, who believed that England had never
done justice to Ireland and tncro wers no bitterer
foes to England In America than those who went
there from the shores OF ireland. lIe must there
lore point out that 1t was not only Tor the sake OF
peace and tranquility In Ireland, but for the
sake OF the foreign relations and the integrity Of
the empire, that tney were now called upon 10
do justice to Ireland. Ridicuiing tho policy of
endowing the Roman Catholic and PresbY terian
religions, he referred In terms OF strong praise to
the Efforts made by the Free Church Of Scotland In
the short time that had elapsed since 1t had let the
Established Church, which mad been declared to be
OF the happest events that had occurred In
that country. lie anticipated the same result Ire
land-that the Protestant religion would become the
true light OF the Reformation and the Roman Catho-
lie would lose something OF It's R0manlZng and
iuibeeal tendencies. In conclusion, he described
from the bi which would insure peace and tran
quillity ana prosperity In Ireland and would add
new lustre aud dignity to the Crown. On this az
count he believed that II would have the support of
all good people within the bounds OF the British
empire, and that it would nave the approval OF the
Supreme authority Tor II was founded the pfncl-
pies OF mercy and justice, which were the attributes
Of His glorious reign. (Cheers.)
On the motion or Sir Roundeil Palmer tho debate
was again adjourned.
Terrible Colilery Accidcnt-Supposcd Death Of
Thirteen Miners.
English journals OF the 18th contain thrilling ac-
counts OF q dreadful colery accident From one OF
the London papers We extract the following ac-
count OF the disaster:-
On the morning OF the 18th one Of the most
serious colliery accidents which occurred the
Woyerhampton district happened ut the Earl OF
Duuiey's No. 70 Pt. Wallows Coiliery Locks lane,
Erlefly hill suddenly and In the middle Of the night
the water burst into the pit, where were ten
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