New-York tribune., 1869-06-22
GREAT BRITAIN.
IRISH TROUBLES.

IRISH TROUBLES.
LONDON, Monday, June 2i 1869.
In the House Of Commons, this evening, Sir John
Gray member for Kilkenny. asked the Government
If there any TO apprehend further troubles
in Ireland, and If the military force in that country
was to be strengthened Mr. Fortescue, Chief Secre-
tary for Ireland, stated that the Government was
informed that Mr.. Johnston, prominent Orange
leader in Ireland had called meeting to celebrate
the anniversary of the 12th of July. This was not
an act of hostility to the Government but the prac
tce Of increasing the military force IN Ireland about
the time of this anniversary was never more neces-
sary than in the present year.
CHURCH ENDOWMENT.
In the House of Lords tonight, Earl Grey gave
notice that no should move to omit in the Irish
Church Bill that portion of the preamble which pro-
vides that the property proceeds of said Church
shall not be held or applied for the maintenance of
any church OF clergy or other ministry or for the
teaching of religion.
TIE MATCH WITH HARVARD.
1t is reported that the Cambridge boatIoen win
withdraw from the match with the Harvard Club.
THE CHURCH BILL-THE LORDs-DISRAELI AND
DERBY-PROsPECTs OF THE BILL.
IRON OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT
LONDON, June lO-Whether the Tory Lords do
finally throw out the Irish Church Lil or not, they
have already incurred no small part Of the odium
and Of the injury to their political power which the
actual rejection would bring upon them. When an
old abuse survives by sufeTance the worst thing that
can happen 20 il is to be discussed. 1t is hardly too
much to say that since 1892 the Upper House, as a
legislative body, has been kept alive more by senti-
mental than by practical considerations 1t has
existed only on condition that it would GET out Of
the way when il was not wanted The memorable
sentence of Broughani--that the Reform bill must
be passed, whether through the House of Lords or
over the House of LOrds'-has passed into politi-
cal maxim; more than that 1t has become doctrine
Of Constitutional law; more even than that, it
has become part of the Constitution itself
There have been three occasions during 40
years when the Lords undertook TO dispute
and resist the settled viii of the people
made known through the House of Commons; in
lS32 when they opposed the Reform bill, IN 1916
when they opposed the Repeal Of the Corn Laws
and in 1860 when they opposed the defeat of the
Paper Duty In each case they were beaten or
rather they avoided a collision by surrender which
was a more explicit confession of weakness than any
defeat following struggle could have been. Now
foF the fourth time they have to decide not the fate
Of pending measure, but their own fate. The bill
will be carried whatever they do and the sole ques
ton now as in 1892 is whether it shall be carried
through the Lords or over the Lords.
Which of the two it is to be is point shall not
discuss because you will know the result before this
letter is half across the ocean. Still the mere doubt
is thing so curious as to be worth noting. If evil
dence is worth anything 1t must be considered set
tied that the Tory Peers will smash the bill next
Monday They have held two meetings. In the
last and most important they resolved by a great
majority to resist the second reading The majority
was not merely great but aggressive and intolerant
Ia 4.
They would not grant II at ALL except in the case Of
two or three very eminent men. Lord Salisbury,
beyond comparison the ablest, wisest statesman in
the Tory party spoke against the policy of rejection
as neither prudent in itself, the best thing for
the Church. He was heard with ill-concealed
impatIence aud made no impression on the
minds Of an aTistOcTatic mob bent on t0l-
loving its leader through another LEAP IN
the Dark Lord CamarvOn, second OF the famous
three who abandoned the Derby Ministry in '67,
rather than abandon their principles supported Lord
Salisbury With these tYO stood Earl Stanhope-
better known in America as Lord Mahon-whose
white hairs could scarcely secure him respectful at
tenton Nobody else could get any attention at all
This was a private meeting, held in drawing-room
Wy $50 Of the most high born and bred among the
English nobility. But good manners seem to have no
more TO do with politics than Daniel Webster sad
IcAglOn had. Inc minority were nOOleu anu hlsSo'
into silence. There was no formal vote because we
are tod the independence of each peer was carefully
larded In England nothing is guarded as carefully
As the shadow Of thing after the substance IS gone
But the purpose of the meeting was plain beyond
dispute. Lord Derby almost formally resumed the
leadership of bis party. which in February Of last
year he resigned into Mr.. Dsraelfs hands lie
hosted the old flag Of "no surrender" and the rank
aud file followed with alacrity. hope it viii not be
thought dsrespectful TO speak Of such distin-
guished company as the rank and file. As Artemus
Ward recruited his regiment exclusively Of Brlga-
dierGenerals, Lord Derby's command does in fact
consist Of BarOns AID YiseanDts and Earls. AS they
used TO say in Boston, in the days Of the Burns riots
and long after. it was a broadclOth mob. And with
Characteristic love of spOrt-in its various FORMS
they went in for a fight.
Spite Of al this and of all that has since happened,
there is general impression that the Lords viii not
lace the music The leading journal which on Mon
day announced tho decision Of Saturday as final,
discovered Tuesday that il had been reconsdered.
believe it went so far TO proclaim that the crisis
was over, and TO affirm positively that the Tories
would stay aVay and allow the second reading TO 20