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A DIscovERY.-The workmen in
overhauling the old fort at st.
Augustine, Florid a, discovered
several subterranean cells, or pris-
ons, each of which contained a long
iron upright box and a human
skeleton in irons. 1t is supposed
these were refractory Spanish SOL
diers, or perhaps prisoners of war !,
who were incarcerated in these
sweat boxes and left there to die
hundreds of years ago. ."
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Proceedings Of the United States
District Court, for the Western
District of South Carolina-Au.
gust Term, 1869. NJ ....-,..-..... ...,
TuEspAY. Anc. 31st. 1S6

TUESDAY, Aug. 31st, 1869.
The Court opened at 10 o'clock
A. M. Petit and Pleas Jurors
answered to their names. TO-.
~. ''' In Bankruptcy. . ..''.' 90,
Elk gparte V. j. Vereen, of
Charleston. Petition for final dis
charge. j. N. Nathans, por. pet.
Register Carpenter, reporting
favorably, on motion, the Judge
signed nnder seal of Court the Or
der and certificate Of discharge as
prescribed by law. $50
Ey parte w. W. Harllee, of
Marion. Petition for, final dis
charge. Simonton & Barker pro
pet. Same order as above.
:, Ex parte Jas. p. Wilson. In re.
Mathew Byrd. Petition to estab-
lish lien. B. w. Edwards & Press
ley. Lord & Ipglesby, pro pet. =
- Referred Sto j. @. Carpenter,
Register, or be debarcd, to- report
after notice to lien creditors to
prove their demand. snaa rs'
Elk parte Henry d. Green, of
Sumter. Petition for final dis.
charge, Presley, Lord s. Ingles-
by, pro pet. .agi .s.llIs,s,'..
Petition referred to j. @. Car.
penter, Register, to report. and Fl.
nal hearing to take place before
this Court, at Charleston, on 18th
October, 1869, at II o'clock, A.. M.
Ex parte Talley, Bachman &
Waities. In re. r. @. Miles, bank.
.rupt. Petition for payment of fees
and advances made bankrupt to en-.
able him to file petition. w. e.
Earle, pro pet. hF1.sf' .nr ro
Ordered that the petition be re.
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A French Captain, Shandy, was
decorated recently at Rouen, by
the Emperor. "Sire," he ex-
claimed, with effusion, "I am
yours in life and death. I served
your uncle faithfully. I have re-
ceived two wounds-one in the leg
and the other at Wagram." Here
the Empress giggled audibly, and
the veterans speech came to an
abrupt termination. ..
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F6K rhr soJrnrnk EsrrrKhisr.
Southern Baptist Theological Semi
10 nary, Gts6nviile, g. 9. .
osTIaNE Or PRoEs foYs t1N4ucURAI
ADDRESS.
ADDRESS.
10 IATI I L

A. ~. - e
AIter centuries OF aouot and
connlct, tho science OF Biblical ex'
ege'ics seems 20 nave attained deh'
mlte lorm, ana 10 nave settled into
ehe methoa OF interpretation snown
as tne grammauco-r Ihis
connlct OF opinion VIII NOT seem
9sr 7s,,, wheh we renecs tnas the
Slolels !ara 10 lunaerseana INST,
because ~ Is q BOOK spiritually dis
cerheu then, because IL Is written,
10 use tAugus9nes ! thought, lor all
sssii 20 much tne greater greater our
ep'letlen'ias men saS lChf2stlans,
10 Wrsstie With ns tllI1fuipaes. qlIHcuipes. :,
I'm eap'ists ehere fests a sPeciai
4oiiSSf.ps as z hecessary result OF
eiyisHL5rsinrs tseir islIhELr inrst' rom; tneiT com
Ple'e dspenoenSe on stne biple, 10
.he excursion OF all human author
10y. Apar' rom tne scriptures
tney naSe hosiGaiae ana mo
eAls.epee peGopoty, from atheir
. nole- i~Sofao'e PoSi''Cn& as IN
setef'ers fsfss ilrssutSs from TWO
ac one VI tlsess -, freedom oin
IRON. hnman eentrol, the capacity
osa,.. oe,Ier @ 20 stnly iee tra,s immedi,
Sash;o,;o ssiau HI u 'hssIs T aess'pIf ue apio
TheJ0tba,.-i: .tsa o,rao ta,. ~, y, :, e, ;,,
Which tSey % 95olJ AZ trrsh sy of S:.; u
tnra anS AZ o"rsaan. ~ 5Sp
annraLans;on &c 49, -, ! "a III I Jeaser
az insn;rot;on ~ 'oiui'e
Tb;s ohI;not;oSnh o. ..e,. ..
in afFoSaSSs Nh Snlhs s,;I;,.,' ""' ~
me5,h he,;Ts, hnys I;tss = 4 ai,a !, az 10
cbarged ;f Is,wa ;non;na a'9 ,,.Ls. a,s
Rantists have done in ,h;s dis '
ton II mnst be onswared 0 ,hat G :,
science and Iearn;na thow hano on
cornni;sbed I;ttia sFhey Iasa
fa,1 na,nss of sScsps, ~ \ Z MA Sa;,so,, =
Rnnvap Giid TnIIas Co., mhtSn' %n'
rev Marsbmar % Wa, anS an ;m tI;s a
conntsu t,.a ch.,ia~s os0sLa e1 % fua.
Grade Rnt ,La 49, - ;n.us re n,s.
contr;bu,;on Rant;sts % III r.. orsn' Laa"
mads M i,ha pot;a,.s ~s. ] Ss,.s oeex st
the Great mi nr;nc;nles &c sgIy tSa sns,oa UaS ~
anthari{S 6f dc scr;,taras u
the necessity of sn;r;tnai;ty in tha
mternrefer N ~
W. s5a,I hat,o. a. o,,,, 80 "a -
,rosan. a., .,o,,Sf Soiiprehe'u our
amrssv 20 a., "ns o,ss: -, ,s saP,u
en ~ ~ N.o "oi iohcuefSai Iaoors
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Various Things about Women.

'r various Things about Women.
-, We learn says a Georgia ex-
Change, that an effort Isl beina
made in one of the churches In
Cherokee county to exclude from
the church all female members
who wear hoops, spaniers, Grecian
bends, smaE hats, or ,,se cosmetics,
paint, or otherappliances, to make
an external show, "for mans illu.
sion given" 9 ''5s' ''. n3'f I7'F7
Bah ! how t,eedlessly some peo.
pie will bother themselves about
women fooling men. The truth is,
men don't like to see, women per.
fectly straight all the way mp, and
down, with a lean tweach at the
back of the head about. the. size of
a hickorynut.s No, they 4 don't!
And q little illusim in many phases
of this life, is a very good thing.
And that church in Cherokee coun-
'ty which is going to bring It's fe-
male members to such q pass, will
soon be deserted by men. That's
certainir '2a la - ara ar.H szl -
And what steps, pray, is that
church going to take to prevent
men fooling womena seW.h.e-wi
our mind shrinks in horror and dis.
may, from the contemplation Of the
measures that would be necessary
to this great end. What say the
women "" '-''' r". '' -D .
And another important thing
concerning women-and whatever
concerns women is obliged to con.
cern men lis that Mrs. Cady
Stanton wants them, actually and
literally, to wear pantaloons. Not
the Bloomer, costume, not any sort
OF halfway compromise like that,
but full male attire coat, vest,
pants, drawers, shirts, socks, era
vats, gallusesi You will see on
the outside of this paper: where
Mrs. Cady speaks for herself. And
Mrs. Cady Stanton, y u must
know, is neither a fool nor an up
start. She is q very smart and a
very well born woman.
But We do hope and pray the
women won't ear pants' and
socks, and galluses. 1t is COM
fort to know that if they do ,tnrn
themselves into men, they can't be
fashionable ones, for they can't
have side whiskers. God has not
given them side whiskers, and that
should prove to them clearly that
they ought MOTTO wear pants, socks,
or galluses. EdgSSeld Adoertiser,.
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A Gentle Word Is Never Lost /

A Gentle Word Is Never Lost
saAsssnsls .Sptd ispsssf lssk JESE
Oh never then refuse one,
Yftcheers the heart vhsn soryow-tost, Or
And lulls the cares that bruise one;
II scatters sunshine Ger our way,
Aud turns our thorns to rosos;
1t ehanges lHeary might TO day. IS
t0 And hope and love discloses.
VuC A,r' i3lfg efFGI gypag az nIy
A gentle word Is never lost
The fallen brother needs r.;
How easy and how smalIthe cost,
I'll With Pescs and comfort speed II. s,ftG
Then drive the shadow from thy check,
IA snils can weIIfeplaee n IS " -
=. Our voice is music ,rhcn We speak
with gentle words % grace it. -
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EDITOR,
2. g. BAILEY, Asseei.ts xsi.oss. /,
! sgit m .f EH1fEaA

VI sSssesrp4fok Txo D6 6iI4t5 per snsdrs. : =
ApyrnrrsBHssrs iussrtea st the rstysyof
enc .dcilafs per sqnafs ofstwslve Minion lines
(this siscd ypel or iess for the first insertion,
tiftf eepts taqk fpf thb second and third ihser-
Siodn sadS hssuty Ave cents for, sabsequent
insertions. Yearly contracts win be made.
NJ insertion; marked on them, Or they Will bo
fnsertsd tilf ordered out, and charged for. Z.
unicss ordered otherwise, Afivertfsemehts
viii invariably be |" "dieplsyed. rE S,9s f>'
obituary notices, and al insttefx inuring to
to the beneat ,of any one, sre regarded as
AdSsftissmshss. q y go
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STGNs OF CHARAorER.--It is said
that any nose which is less than
the height Of the foreheadqisI an in.
dication of defective intellectual
power. The eyes indicate charac-
ter rather by their color than form.
The dark blue are found most COM
monty in persons of a gentle and
refined character: light blue and
gray in the rude, and energetic.
Lavater says; "Hazel eyes are
the more usual indications of a
mind masculine, vigorous and
profound; just as genius, properly
so called, is almost always associ-
ated with eyes of a yellowish cast,
bordering on the hazel" The
higher the brows rise, the more
their possessessor is supposed to be
under the influence of feeling, and
the lower, the better controlled by
his reason. A very small eyebrow
is an indication of want OF force of
character A ytolerably largo
mouth is essential to vigor and en-
ergy, and very small one is in.
dicative of weakness and indo-
lence. In a manly face the upper
lip should extend beyond and dom
mate the lower. Fleshy lips are
oftener found associated with a
voluptuous, and meagre ones with
a passionless nature. The retreat
ing chin indicates weakness the
perpendicular, strength; and tho
sharp, acuteness of mind.
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sI-Ex- T7F@PoPULAR Il


give to the world the word Of God
il, its fulness.r Through all the
vicissitudes of our, history, throu IA
persecution and obliqny, we, have
maintained the supreme authority
of Scripture, and the necessity of
something more than learning anu
morality for him who would com
pyehend it, We have, as much
need now as ever to, hold fast to
these principles and to allow no so.
,cial pressure to make us swerve for
a moment from the beliefs and prac-
tices which we derive from the
word of God. .r'.Hg -.-1-..ss aaG
Let ne, however, guard against
the errors into which our anxiety
to be faithful may lead us. First,
we may perYert the doctrine Of
the teaching of the Holy Spirit in
to q plea for fanaticism, gsetting up
our own fancies as eternal truth;
second, it is obligatory on MS not
to neglect true learning (as we
have sometimes done) but to foster
it, for God and His truth. We
make a special plea for the, study
of the original languages of Scrip
ture. The facilities for, such study
are now greater than ever before /;
valuable acquisitions are within
reach of all. IIfitbe objected that
the demands of ministerial work
are pressing and authoritative, we
answer, that the minister of Jesus
by such stndy increases his capac.
ity for work in every direction. II
is q brief delay. sor a better girding
up of oneself for the conflict. :
ao But where such study is impos.
sible, we may rejoice to know that
our common English version, not
tree from errors, is yet substantial
ly the reproduction of the original.
From it the gospel of salvation
may be learned and preached, and
the same laws efinterpretation ap.
piled to it as to the original, Fur.
ther, as being in our vernacular it
is in some respects superior to,
that is more real to us than, the
original. The trouble is that we
neglect our English version for the
comments of men. With such
views the Baptists of the South
have established their Seminary,
providing for the study of the orig,
inal languages of the Scripture, to
encourage thoroughness providing
also for the study of the English
version rs thing. not only neces-
sary for some, bnt also excellent
for all. In general the Seminary
is not creative but developing, and
on its work we may lawfully ask
the Divine blessing. . -.
The problem in Hermeneutics
now pressing on us in the conbin-
ing into unity the two co-existine
intellectual and spiritual elements
From their union we may expect
higher conceptions of tr u t h-a
preparation Of mind and heart fol
the life to come where we sbal
spend eternity in a constantly pro
gressive contemplation of the same
inexhaustible revelation.
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Proceedings Of the United States
District Court, for the Western
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02

trian Empire amounts to 3,140,SSO, of
whom ,229,0S3 are LutheranS, and 1919
249 are of the Reformed faith. Besides
these there are 10000 who are members
of other Protestant churches.
Louis Napoleon, finding on exalnina.
tion of the facts in relation to smokers and
non.smokerS of tobacco in all the public
schools, that the latter were decidedly
superior in physical health, intellectual
requirements aud moral department, for.
babe by law its use in public institutions
of education.
The Committee on Statistics of the
Disciples of Christ" in Iowa, report the
number of their churches at 1913 elders,
269; preachers, 1873; members, 1882 !;
chapels, so; Sunday schools, 81; scholars,
3,S4S; teachers, 1856; volumes in libraries
1915; Sunday school papers taken, 1881.
-Beecher says that men confess every.
thing but their own beSetting sins. They
steer clear OF these, Whoever heard a
man say, 80 Lord am proud as Luci-
fer; humble me'-or 40 Lord am so
mean and stingy that It's only with great
pain that can unclose my fist make me
generous"
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02

less than forty-one-third of the former
number, and has bound the proprietors to
sell only at fixed prices, giving profit al
only one and a half per cent, with ohlign.
tons to keep supply of all harmless
drinks, including beer, at whatever profits
they could command, thus making ii the
interest of the vendors to sell these drinks
instead of liquors, The effect has been mn
almost entire cessation of drunkenness
A few days sincean English gentleman
in Paris received from fri, nd ms
present the leg of a young bear shot in
the Pyrennes, and which is said, when
sailed, to be superior to the finest York
shire hams. Owing, however, 10 the heai
OF the weather, the leg arrived in such
state of n0n.preservation that the recip-
lent ordered it to be thrown into the
river, This was done, and shortly ahca
the basket containing it was tished up vi
St Cloud, with the address still legible ON
the label, On its being conveyed to the
police office, the doctor attached to that
department declared il to be the right ley
of human being. Naturally enough tho
commiSsaire sailed forth with an escur,
of gendarmes, and proceeded to the address
affixed TO the basket, in order To arrest The
person to whom so suspicious a parcel WAS
consigned, Two persons connected With
the railway were also arrested as accom-.
plices OF course an explanation ensued,
and further in airy established the in
noCCnCc of all the parties concerned
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02
Religious and Educational.

"A sx.thousand dollar organ has been
ordered for the Central Presbyterian
Church, Des Moines.
The profits from the recent national
camp meeting at Rounu Lake, New York,
were $4,000.
"A New York academy advertises the
re-opening for the fall thus Dear boys +:
Come back September IA.
= The largest Sunday School in the
world is at Stockport England, and mum
bers about 5000 scholars There are 300
teachers
The Chinese school in San Francisco
contains 1870 little scholars. They learn
English by signs and pictures with great
rapidity,
Nearly half million dollars is to be
spent in additional salary to the teachers
Of elementary schools in Germany this
year
"A jubilee viii be held at Lincoln, Ill,
on September "a, in honor Of the ilftieth
anniversary Of Peer Cartwright's ordina-
ton as Methodist preacher.
The amount realized from the sale Of
tickets after paying expenses, at grand
fancy ball at White Sulphur Springs, Va,
on the 18th Of August, has been appr0-
priated to aid in the education Of orphans
Of deceased Confederate soldiers.
The Protestant population In the Aus
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02
Eating Fruits

DR., Snow, of Providence, r. l., wei
known collector OF Vital statistics, who has
given much attention TO the causes ofdcath
IN a note to the Providence J01Tnal, Civ
ing the number of deaths in that city in
the month Of July, says:
We are treated at this season with the
usual amount of caution in the ncwSpa.
pcrs against the use of fruits and vegetables.
and are called upon to believe that the IN
crease OF mortality which always occurs
during the hot weather, is almost wholly
caused by eating them. It's quite likely thai
eating unripe and wilted fruit and yegeta
bles causes disturbance in the stomach and
sickness; but II is of a temporary charac.
ter, and would generally cure itself il mo
other cause was present IL Is well To use
caution in the selection of fruits and vegc-
tables, but it is not well to be unnecessary
" troubled and frightened about them,
and it is still worse to AVOID them alto
gether.
The slightest examination Of the causes
of death given shows that fruit and vogc-
tables had almost no influence whatever in
the mortality reported from summer com
plants. Nearly all the dcccdents from
these causes were very young children
who do not eat fruit and vegetables at all
All but five of the decedents from sum
mer complaints in July were under two
years of age, and only two of the whole
number were over four years of age
In certain seasons, when epidemic choi
era may be present, and when the systems
of the people may be prepared for disease
by the poisoned air they breathe, II is pos
sible that wited fruit and vegetables may
be the exciting causes Of fatal sickness,
but even the air that is breathcd IL more
truly the cause Of death than the food
that is eaten. In ordinary seasons, when
no epidemic is present. impure air causes
thousand fold more mortality than
fruit and vegetables In fact it is proba
Bile that total abstinence from fruit and
vegetables by the whole community would
produce more fatal sickness than the mnst
unlimited indulgence in them. The safest
rule is, however, temperance in oil things
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02


nailed that all was light, and the heavily
loaded train kept on When it was near
the crossing, special train on the Amboy
road came in sight around the curve, APP
preaching at high speed The flag
instantly displayed the red flag, but
neither train could stop. Most fortunately,
one Of the brakemen on the excursion
train had the remarkable presence of mind
to cut the train and put the brakes down
on the cars cut of, which so slowed them
that gap in the train was formed just at
the crossing, and the Amboy train dashed
through and no injury was done, But for
this, the loss of life and mangling of bodies
that must have occurred would have been
fearful beyond description. There were
1908 persons on the excursion train
Neio York Tribune, Aug, 8.
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02
CURRENT PARAGRAPHS,
Personal and Literary.

Kansas City has tailor whose name
is A. Swindler.
Mr. and Mrs. f. c. Ingersoll, of Hi,
nois, were in Paris the first of August.
John Allen, of Wickedest.man- in.
New ork -notoriety, has become respect
able and obscure, commonplace and un-
known"
Ada Webb, one of the well known
Webb Sisters, was recently married in
Brooklyn to j. w. Conner, of New Or.
leans,
General Williams, who married Mrs.
Stephen A. Douglas, has purchased a
100 acre farm in Culpepper county, Va.
Lawrence Mccormick, of Dubuque,
has been sent to the Penitentary for five
years, for placing distractions upon rail
poad track.
Dame Rumor announces that there
are at one Saratoga hotel forty women who
weigh over $50 pounds each-all of whom
are there for their health.
Rev. J, L. G. McKeown, of Union
Chapel, Cincinnati, has been elected Pres
ident of the Albion (Mich,) College, and
will enter upon the duties at once.
Duluth, the terminal city on Lake Su.
perior, gets its name from Daniel Grey.
solon Duluth, a French explorer who built
the first trading post on the lake in 1919.
TX Marvel having spoken disrespect-
fully of the New York & New Haven
Railroad in the Hearth and Home, that
paper is banished from the trains and
stations on that line
AT Frankfort on.thc Main, journey
man tailor lately married, who had been
betrothed to his bride for thirty-six years.
The bridegroom was 6S and the bride GA
years old.
General George B. Mcclellan is build
ing mansion on the top of Orange noun
tain, New Jersey, on land adjoining the
property of General Marcy, his father-in-
law
Admiral Porter has received from the
Cape Of Good Hope present of pair OF
horns which measure seven feet six inches
from tip to tip, and at the base they meas
ure seventeen inches IN circumference.
"A man passed through Allentown, Pa,
the other day, pushing "A whcelbarrow, in
which was seated his wife, unable to walk
from rheumatism, and who had been
trundled all the way there from Illinois.
Two little children of the pair tramped by
the side of the father the entire distance.
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02

There are forty.seyen trade societies
in New York.
-4he manufacturers Of Toledo have
formed an association called the Manu-
iacturers' Board Of Trade.
"A Bostonian raised the past season, on
a plot ofle than two acres, $4,000 worth
of strawberries
The strawberry crop Of Delaware is
estimated to have brought the producers
$500 per acre, or So or "a per bushel.
in the Mississippi river trade there are
now $40 steamers, with capacity of 292,
TIA tons, and valued at 81, $4,000
Near Austin, Texas, Is said to be a
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02

Wisconsin, Missouri and Vermont fol-
low in the order named, and the entire
number of sheep in the country is 49,
100000
An item for epicures is contained in
letter from Cheyenne, Wyoming Territory:
Mushrooms of gigantic size and extra
ordinary flavor have been found growing
by hundreds of thousands allaround Chcy-
enne. The writer saw one yesterday that
weighed one pound, was twenty-one inches
in circumference and seven inches in di-
ameter. The stem was two inches thick
and five inches long. When prepared for
cooking the rim was thirteen inches from
one to the other and from one to two
and half inches thick | ate some of
this Monster fried in butter, and it was
most delicious in flavor and tenderness"
The number of labor organizations at
present existing in the United States, and
their membership, are said to be about as
follows
Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1869-09-02
A Man, Tired of Life, Gets Measured for
COtiia.

AN incident occurred, yesterday, III Tia,
work shop Of Mr., Jacob Gish, undertaken,
on Farnam street, which shows that happi.
ness is not always to be found in the cup,
and that death is looked fondly forward io
as a relief from troubles against which il ii
hard to bear up An old gentleman, cyi-
IDENTIFY an Englishman by birth, walked
into the ware room and said to Mr.. GiSi
that he desired to purchase n coffin
"What size, ~" said the burying man,
always on the alert for business
Z" | want the thing for myself said The
Englishman, cant you take my meaS.
ureY'
Mr. Gish now observed that his Gus
toner was laboring under the effects Of
liquor, but in order to humor him, re-
qucstcd the stranger 10 stretch himself or
q board so that he might chalk out his IL.
mansions. The man seemed only ton
happy 10 comply, and was soon lying vi
fall length on his back. Putting his hand
TO his waistcoat pocket, he extracted s2p
which he gave to Mr.. Gish, az a pledge
that he meant business He said thai lac
had been backsmithing at North Platte,
but that whisky had got the better Of him,
and he was tired Of life He then gently
implored Mr. Gsh to kill him, which Nj.
Gish, Notwithstanding that such proceed
ure would make the proposed trivial job
sure thing, refused to go Ne gave the
old fellow back the $50 and advised hirn
to go honc, sleep of the whisky, and take
n new lease Of life The man left tbs
premises, but before departing said he was
determined TO die az soon ~. possible
OHaltd Heraid