Public ledger. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1865-1893, 1869-08-03

Brigham YOung-AnOther version OF
His Conversation with Senator
TrumbulI.
The correspondent of the San Fran.
cisco Alta California gives the following
account of the interview, on the 10th
inst, between Brigham Young and the
Chicago commercial party, which differs,
in some respects, from the version sent
to this paper:
At an interview of the Chicago COM
mercial party with Brigham Young, which
took place last Saturday, at Salt Lake
CITY, heretofore briefly noticed by the
telegraph. the Mormon President in
formed United States Senator Trumbull
that " great lies" had been printed sbout
the Latter Day Saints by two vile men
sent out from Washington as Govern
ment officers. "Now, said he I'VE in
tend to send out some of the same sort,
and when we do, don't believe more n
half you hear. We have been lied about
enough, and will not stand it any longer.
II the Government sends bad men here,
we shall just politely conduct them on a
little trip to the boundary line of the
Territory, and bid them go, never to re-
| turn.
Senator Trumbull-" Well, now, Mr..
Young, allow me to suggest to you that
before You do this, before you take such
decided steps, that you communicate
with President Grant and advise him OF
your intentions. SIN satisfied that the
| President, who is q good man, will do yCu
Justice. and it would be better first to lay
any grievances you may have before
him"
Brigham Young" Yes, and perhaps
get the same treatment we have always
received. Why, what did Mr.. Douglas
do, when King James Mr. Buchanan
sent him to US at Nauvoo2 He made, as
it we're, treaty with US, as the Govern :
ment does with Eaglsnd or sny foreig n
country; promised, if we would 60 away
beyon1 civiliz alton, we would not be
molested. The result was, we were set
upon coming here, and 5000 of our men
forced into a legion of soldiers to fight
the Mexicans and leave our women and
children to starve, and Buchanan said,
Let them die 7"
Senator Trumbull-" You can depend
upon a fair hearing in Congress"
Brigham Young" What take our
papers and throw them under the table.
Send more, under the table they 60.
T This was said with energetic gesticuIa-
tion. I As to our Institutions, We know
we are right, and polygamy, which you
object to, was not originally part of our
system, but was adopted by US as me-
cessity after we came here.
Senator Trumbull-"I have no doubt
that Congress has right to legislste on
the marriage relation and to regulate
it"
Brigham Young-"Then why not legis-
late about the intercourse of the (un-
married) sexes?" Here he went off into
the question of slavery, saying: Con-
gress ought to have made law compel
ling the master to treat his slaves well
then, l believe, it would have been better
than abolishing it."
Brigham then again spoke Of the men
sent out to them, and it was interpreted
that he alluded to present officials; but
said "It's all right; we can take care
of ourselves. Cummings was good
enough in his way, for you know he was
simply Governor of the Territory, while
was, and am, Governor of the people"
Senator Trumbull-" Mr.. Young, may
say to the President that you intend to
observe the laws, under the Constitu-
tion p
Brigham Young Wsll-yes-w we in
tend to"
Senator Trumbull-" But may say to
him that you will do 50
Brigham Young-"Yes, yes; so far as
the laws are just, certainly"
Rev. E. B. Tuttle, Post Chaplain,
United States army, then said" Mr.
Young, may ask you question ?"
Brigham Young" Yes, sir"
Rev. Mr.. Tuttle-"I would like to
know how you came to settle just here
and net at some other place
Brigham Young" Well, we knew just
where we were coming to before we came.
We had heard of it through Fremont's ac-
count, where, you know, be speaks of
losing a glass out of his telescope; it was
Just back of here on Mt. -; and miners
told US Of it. 1t was supposed we we're
going to Vancouvers Island we had no
such intention. We sent q colony in a
vessel round to California, with a view
to locate there also. Bat we came here
to Mexican territory, planted the Ameri
can q az, and conquered US home, and
here we mean to stay. Sirs," said he,
" | expect to see the time we can go back
to Missouri as freely as anybody and be
ubdisturbed."