New-York tribune., 1869-03-15
THE IRISH CHURCH,

1shed Church Of ireland aud Maynooth ana the lrsI
Resolution Of year had been read Mr. Gladstone VINO
was yehemeny cheered by his supporters proceeded TO
unfold his plan prefacinR it by along e1ordium in which
be glanced rapidly at previous stages OF the question:
aud answered by anticipation some OF me pIlnCPani
objections policy. Recalling then tue pledges gS
by those who had taken up the question: he predic&Iea G
the Bill that should put an immediate end 10 the
iishment and the pubhc endowment OF Tue lt ieTai
that it should be thorough but al the same time nDea
aud indulgen prompt IN lts opefsioI ana R % into three
parts-ts immediate effect, its effect at e5i M i rn
ton when what he called the process OF Mnui"E as t
tho affairs Of the lrish CHuTm Gaod fIe
b provided that the present EcclesasilIai an
should be at once wound up aug ~" of the Irish
pointed for years, which the pIv - % tlJ rom
Church, subject TO life interests, "VuI ~ tec6nicay
the time Of the passing Sl n, a immediate dsendowment
oftbr Gr.i Church Disestabllshmeut Wouiu 9e PVyII
poncd unt the lst Of January ISL At 'St d I9J eang
would dissolved oil Eccles9Scal J cas" and
tLe Ercesiestical would NO longer De nhuHs "s
tIc forms 6 tle voluntary contract between clergy an
iaity unt they were altered by the governing bQuy ol
tween t,S f6e passing Of the act and this date OF
January 1871, and during the Ieor reai1HlttU ~
thouid 90 NAV r w An ti3din bS freehold or confer vested
interests Appointments also would be made III we sanc
provisional ana temporary manner TO vacant DlshOpe
tnt oniy on the prayer the bishops to consecFae par
tcnlar persou To % vacancy but these appointments, TOO
would carry with them no vested interests ana no IEs
The two periods would be allied up on the same princ
pies assist ia the reorganization OF INC onuifn' an" m
70 favor the creation of body which coua ntSoo & cu an
behalf Of the Church with the COMMISSIONERS Ias
ton act which prevented inc assen0gs srenec6 CI and
power would be taken TO the Queen in Conner 10 LGSa
DssstauIs shcd Church might on ana which acai
lyrepresened both aud that body woid Pe lHeo
,;TLe COrumittec" MI Gladstone said having fOlOWeu
me thus far. Will have perceived that we nave copUt
technical diSeudoWment ON te pasSlS m ~ b I 6s 70 he
named tho and now standing Tor the ISL OF Janu
ary 1871 Next the task Of carrying ont al t.ose
n
tie parties affected 10y this great change VIII nave 20 po
brace the vested interests Of incumbentS-and by ho
word incumbent wish to he understood as i mSaana m
bishop diguitary of the chuich, as wen as
clergyman having parochal chaIge-the yes'eS EN- lu'
terests Of curate the case OF nay & anu IiOI t he
the compensation Tor adVoWsOhs ihe Pto!lNIIls - 20
adopted with respect private eudoNmcnts the pICNs
siOns with respect TO churches Win respect 10 Etu
houses gaye-yards all those, Of course, being subject
to the life interests recognized 10y we nt; 49,
up Of the Bcgm Do'Hu the aranseinenls eohhec,ed o.,
with the windiugup Of Maypooh the "llEeme.@Is us LOT
dsposing Of the ttuo communication iUntchalge the ar
rangemeuts with respect The large class OF property
affected by the propertypUrchaSe clauses, and the ar
by the Commissioners Let nc say word hrst WIN re-
sect to that which the largest Of all these subjects
namely the case of the vested interest Of ncunDents
The plan will he this The amount OF income to Wmch
each incumbent Is entitled VIII be ascertaued IL wi VII
be made subject TO deduction for the curaes hema nave
employed IL will be made payable, in the case OF each
so long ne he discharges the duty ANA Ieu mere "
bea provision that the annuity itself may be commIteu
upon the basis of capitaizng it as an annuity ior ne
Therefore inc coumuauOai taAlug mo i"U ,DboIe
interest at 5B per cent, VIII represent ms W. wHHT 1
life This coumutation only be made upon the app
G4uC9 ir Vt i0 it nW TTon his application the
nouey will he paid to that which SHAH call lo[ SlO
body subject to the legal trust OF dchaTgng the oDga
tou or covenant which had ourselves TO discharge %
the incumbeu-namely to give MN 1he anhI,S @ l lu W
so long discharged the duties The recognition o
life interests which would be conditional as regards The
performance Of the duties that now the equivalent
Tor the income, would be unconditional 10 Other RESPECTS
Pnp5 q eg g s 5SWeyer one e2eepon We propose
haf
and absolutely ana without any intervening NE
interest, vest in the Commission under the act
There IS another very small exception which we have
churches wholly ruuous, many in graveyards but many
apart graveyards In some cases the feehOld may
TO dispossess him Of that freehold II may be desirable
that these sites should be disposed Of either By throwing
@ theFe cams can 3e no m g ~ 6f nPacea results TO
tic clergyman, and purely incidental TO hs position as
clergyman Of church established by law lBearl There
isanother change which would be made imnedatcyupon
the dsestabshmeut Of the Church. and which 1t is my
duty 10 bring specially 10 the notice OF the committee
are cOnceued-I think cannot hesitate TO propose to
the Committee mat 5he Peerages OF u t9e dn BISHOPS %
regard curaes, the Commissioners are TO determine
who are permanently employed, and they would
permanently employed would be awarded some gratuity
with respect 10 private endowments although they do
appear be very large IN amount they arc various
in foTm-such eudowments in gebo lands in tthes.
think fair TO take is this: In the first place II must
be money which has been contributed from private
ter ms Tor EXAMPLE in the case Of Primato Bouter and
ba9s pa pdo Sq ,nGasn m hans ESn @ been %e
in private capacity evidently constitutes it
date we have chosen to propose to Parliament for mia
tOn the year lGGOthe year Of the Restoration The
that has recommended the date 10 us IS the fact
that the Restoration was really the period az which the
Church Ireaudthe reformed Protestant Church Of
Ielaud-assumed its present legislative shape and char
Rcter. Even could trace the private endowmcnts
beyond that period, the first effect would be to raise
strong controversy between the friends OF Prcsbytcy
and EpseQpacy When we come to the tlme OF Charles
England and ireland became distinct We ask you, then
historically that man. at any rate knew what
he doing, and the fair presumption arises that If he
gave money the Church il for the support
That form Of religion 10 which II Is now applied
The value OF private endoWments, as far as We have
between lands tithes, and money. t IL very uncertain
There may be good deal OF legal search and legal eX-
pendurc requisite in order 70 obtain evidence upon the
titles We propose, therefore TO authorize the Commits
Eeners TO allow the parties reasonable expenses IN cases
where they think those expenses have been fairly under
taken I'm ascertnHg the title ana establishing the fact
Of private endowment lHeaIl now come 70 the
with churches; IN present nse, mean. Iley may be
taken on the simple declaration OF the governing BODY OF
and maintain them for the purposes Of
worship or elso TO take them down, which they
pedieut, for the purpose OF substituting Tor them new
churches, which they may desire TO build, ana which
may be more conveniently situated, especially having
reference 10 the altered temporal circumstances OF their
community II churches afe not taken oyer Dy INC gov
pedent for Parliament TO contemplate that their actual
nsfer should take place under operation Of law 10 auy
ntber religions coniunon Nor are we led 10 believe
that that would be generally desired by other party
we therefore take general power TO the Commissioners
10 dispose OF the site the building properly its
materials, but in the OF St. Parcks Cathedral and
about dozen other churches partakng OF the character
OF national memorials, the Commissioners would be en-
powered 10 aOt moderate sun for their mainenance
churches not IN aud not capable OF being restored for
purposes Of worship would be handed 10 the Board
Of Works, with ALLEGATION OF funds sufficient for their
maintenance On me knotly polht OF g!g9e houses MI