The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-07-17
Tho Irish Church BILL and Its Amendment
Before the House Of Commons.

The Irish Church Dill and Its Amendments
Before the House Of Commons.
LONDON, July 16-Mdnight.
In the House Of Commons tonight the considera-
Zion OF the Irish Church DILL was continued.
Mr.. Gladstone approved OF the amendment grant.
ing half million pounds for private endowments
ade prior to 1915 but moved to disagree to pro.
vision continuing the Ulster grants.
Mr.. Dlsraeli thought that clear understanding
ought to be arrived at II the policy Of the govern
ment had for its object religious equality It could
mot be obtained by humiating the Irish Church and
leaving it to compete with the most ancient herar-
chy In Christendom He thought The proposal OF the
Lords was reasonable.
Sir STAFFORD Northcote thought Mr.. Oladstone's
proposal would convert the Established Church into
voluntary missionary church. contributions for the
support OF which could only be obtained by stirring
up bad feelings against Catholic neighbours. 1t
would be to the advantage Of the Professionals to
enjoy free and proper endowment, and he asked, as
IN act Of justice and expediency that globes should
be left to them.
Sir Rounded Palmer supported the Lords amend
ment
The amendment granting fsoo, 900 for private en-.
dowments was agreed to.
The amendment continuing the Ulster grants was
rejected by a vote Of 345 to 240 The announcement
of the result was received with cheers from the Min
lsterial benches
Mr.. Disraeli intimated that 1. was not necessary
for the House to divide on any Of the other amend
nents except that to clause sixtyeignt postponing
ehe disposition OF the surplus funds.
Mr.. Gladstone moved TO disagree to- and Mr..
pisraen supported the Lords amendment. He
thought the government plans were not matured
And ought to he left for future consideration.
Mr.. Bright said the distribution OF the surplus was
. difficult matter. The government had made
minute inquiry to the suitable destination Of the
Income arising from the surplus. He had no inter-
Ast 0tner than any other member Of the House, or
Itontrary to the wishes OF the Irish people, Every
One acknowledged that the money was the property
bf the Irish, and ought to be applied to the benefit
OF Ireland This plan was open to the least obec
Eion. To leave the question open would only
pave the way for future embarrassment. He
appealed to the House not to put an OBJ
etacle In the way of the passage Of the bill
The country had conided with the fullest sincerity
In the government desire to make Ireland an in
tegral part of the kingdom and her connection with
England closer.
The amendment OF the House of Lords was then
rejected by q vote OF 200 against 2ls Great cheers
greeted the result.
The Times ON tho Irish Church QaestiOn-
Public Meetings in Support Of the Com
mons.
LONDON July 10, 1862
The Times to-day has an editorial on the action
saken by the Commons last evening" 1t says:-The
bill will go back to the House OF Lords In Its almost
original shape. The Commons have decided that the
amendments adopted by the Lords are inconsistent
with che bill, and there is reason to believe the
Commons Will surrender. II the Lords persist, q
collision must ensue, which will result In popular
Agitation and renewal Of the measure with nercer
determination to carry 1t through. The Times trusts
that the conservative peers will be content with the
presentation OF Earl Derby's protest, which usage
allows them, and not continue their opposition to
the bill.
Meetings OF the people In support Of the Commons
on the Irish Church bill continue to be held IN var
Gus parts Of the kingdom.
John Bright has been unanimously elected mem.
DER OF the Athcneum Club.
The Reform League contemplate an Indignation
demonstration against the House OF Lords.