The evening telegraph. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1864-1918, 1869-06-07

people at first thought that n vas n declaration
spirit but then elS bsp prepared to accept t in that
and now they have justly arrived al the oonoiuaioD
ahaI @ % su.nne. @ s eter all but one American citizen,
ara does not represent the views OF the administra-
ton. Motley has gone over there I left before he
arrived 40 not believe that he has got any nstruc-
speeches that the United States desired IN he on
friendly terms with England. What has he done
his mission is pacific. | said that my mission was
pacific Sumner says that his speech was made In
the interest OF peace. Why, we are all for peace
TT Is ABSURD.
For few minutes Mr. johnson here relapsed into
silence, and then broke out again. "Sumners epeech
is absurd DO you know what they say OF it in Eng
and2 Clarendon says that It is absurd and prepos-
ferrous; that it is not the speech OF either LAWYER or
statesman; that It's propositions are wholly mad
misslble Why" said Mr. Johnson, "this same Mr.
Sumner wrote TO Mr. Bright on the 18th or Goth
OF last January that the protocol which / sent
here would have been almost unanimously an
proved II IL nad been received three weeks sooner
The TACT Is, the incoming President did moi
want the question settled during the administration
OF Andrew Johnson, and the Republican party did
not want " settled by me- They dd not want the
erdt Of having tue most dinicut question short of
the question OF actual separation, that has arisen
between the two countries, settled by n Democratic
Administration That was the point of objection 10
my course and TO my protocol. Mr. Sumner said to
my colleague, Mr.. Vckers that n month ear,ier ~
would have been as welcome as champapnei BRIGHT
denounces Summers speech in the strongest terms
WHY IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED
"Nhy don ihe English papers publish Mr. Sum-
ner's speech 2" ~ ~
why, because it is too nonsensical. Clarendon
says that the United States as a Government
has no claims against England az n Govern
ment inc United states has private Individual
claims against England, and England has private
individual claims against the United States These
the English people and Government are WILLING
to submit to an arbitration. Clarendon saws
would reject the treaty because the holders of Irish
Republican bonds might come in under its terms
Thc Americans whom have met abroad denounce
Mr.. Sumner as much as the English neonle do IL 10
a foolish speech. Take that point which he makes
about blockade. That decision in the prize cases
papers have not published and will not publish his
speech $3.50
Mr.. johnson was very indignant ON this suhioc,
lie could not tolerate the idea of attaching any i'm
pOrtance or significance whatever to the ideas or the
Massachusetts, Senator. He started up from his
and rapidly said:- '
'The English Government will never accede to
the Sumner demands. Clarendon won't Weld one
inch from his position They have taken IL and can
not be shaken in their resolve They are n very
proud people, powerful people, and cannot be
frightened"
WAR;
"What do you think OF war between England
and the united states, Mr.. johnson What would
be the result Of it ?"
''The result would be unfavorabe to us. In the
first place, our debts are equal But there will not
be and cannot be war so long there is any com
mon sense left to the two peoples But To taIk
about it for arguments sake :-England was never
and the United States is less able to enter on a
contest of the kind than she was during the
Rebellion. Do you remember Admiral Porter's let
ter on the subject? lie is of my opinion or rather
am OF his, that we cannot fight England. Yes they
would give us Canada provided the Canadian people
were willing to be exchanged: but do not think
they are, and sooner than part with that province
on forcibe terms, England would lose her last man
and her last shilling"
"But suppose 1t is insisted upon?" president
Grant will not insist upon it, l am confident II he
should do It, war will be the result / do not
rendon says he does not know what they are and
we have only to wait the course OF events"