New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1869-11-17

DaSan IDEAS sti rsi1 over large part Of Chrisendom
Christianity has taken shape ACCORDING 20 o 1 @
OF the people accepting it, Among the passionate people
Of the South II developed into gorgeous tns anu O
institutions rather than ideas. AnSas 9eUP orod 1t
cold and severe dispositions u nae ueVeoptu int9
! DOGMA and creeds since it became the recognized
religion Of the world It has kept pace with the advance
~ VI T though always halting little behind
never going IN ADVANCE helping 10 conserve ana express
tbe undsputed ideas OF society whether IT shall open
atm wider and wider 10 fellowship the thought Of
this age and stand ready TO meet all the demands OF the
and be the religion OF the future is the question
which now confronts Orthodoxy and the old dogmas
are changing and passing away Even the popular mis-
the ground that Catholicism is rational and harmOnlzes
witbthe freest religion. Science makes constant on
Te as In the mechanics Of the universe The work
cannot anticipated and supplied the wants OF all
contributed TO the solid earth which the Christian
feels that his feet are planted he has not narrowed ms
sympathies but widened them, and added great
Of saints teachers and heroes and beneath MIN are
religious thoughts aspirations. struggles ana Oi
all ages and races that have ever existed lie 'e
good and true from Them and the evil and erroneous nc
passes by He sees Christianity Ike the rehglon9 DeOre
it. Is only preparatory and that IL only nave ACCOM-
plished It's mission when IL shall open TO I0n Oh ia
that shan depend upon natural law ana 30 DC 1S bn
OF his finite instrumentaltles In iact the OIsuan,
more the dC f6o pem sense shall lingeF '" for
while, the meaning will have gone out never 10
remain in any but q specific sense. when men thail
10 that point that they say every man is Chrls
says be is Mahommedan, Pagan or CHRISTIAN they wiz
net deem the name Christian very important 70 Keep
OF the spirit and good works.
THE DIscUssIoN-DR BARToL-THE FUTnIrY OF DEFI'
don't know nv friends that any voice could express
our gratitude the reader for the cearness breadth
and ability and for the spirit OF his discourse as wei as
silence. But silence at hrst Is apt 10 DC Oppressive
There is difficulty in respect 70 the real definition OF
living things Inc definition OF any ieeng or laI as H.
feeling; the Judgment OF the head upon something III
the heart and HE which must always DC mperiec anu
the moment we do strictly dehnC any H'ins
thing it ceases TO exist The definition Is ns
shroud and coffin. That the difficulty with all denn
tons OF Christianity The moment dehne my VIE my
child. my friend II IS my wife, my child, my frlend no
longer. Theyi died in the definition. In regard 10
those words, divine or human, II seems 10 me tuau
strictly considered, abolish the differences OF those
words as applied to him lie says ne rs tae son % 9s
He also He IS the Son OF God the doctrine OF Two
has this foundation overlooking the fact that ne
does things az a-tt Is the same thlng 10
DO the son Of Man as 10 be the son OF God are cur
OF God because children Of men, ana l suppose
when assert his humanity IN the EXTREMIST sense, as
sert His divinity. Jesus says - ana my rather are
one" suppose he means that any conception OF UOG
suppose Gods children are essehual 10 nIi' a
part OF his unity and bis oneness Ana go
the doctrine OF the incarnation Of the Godhead IN Christ
only an imperfect presentment OF inc luea tDht YOU
never was without family. There never was time
when he had not nnumera0e family OF Children as
there never was time when there was not Creation
sympathze entirely, however, with the discourse when
have listened 70. In regard to the question OF inc
supernatural 90 not hlnh am feaiy III " posIton "
dOgmatize It, that science Is In position 10 say
that such things recorded are possible Their
worth is very evident. But we do not emphasize the
miracles We did pass lightly and tenderly over
OF science we have found OUT more 9 Wat ,e
OF God worth and the lesser value OF these SUPPOSE
miracles I suppose Professor Agassiz thinks great
deal more OF the hsh's mouth in which the money was
there We NAV say works are enough without denying
the actual occurrence Of miracles shores ANA props are
buf when She is launched the ocean supports her and
they lie Idle timber on the wharf do not thlnk we
know the utmost limits power and meaning OF person.
atv The question swells 10 an enormous Importance
certainly the remarkable case Is the personality OF
Jesus which has taken history into It's tram. -
LANES FREEMAN CLARKE-THE NATURAL AND THE SUPER
NATURAL.
of criticism of that superb statement think 1t was
Grand statement II included almost everything but
thing There was one point which occurred 20 me as
wanting in the and 1t comes III Just Nhete the
me aid not state that IN It's funess He said 1t was m
possible for TO be ID the same relation OF SENT
Jesus and took him by the hand Now mat y e point
ana question whether II was lmposSlDIe ~ seems 10
me i'm fact that II going 10 define Christianity SO
as TO make il entirely observation-disclosures MS statement
was so broad I should make 1t TO consist IN lust ta
personal relation which so superior when they
touched his hand. take 1t II yOn were 70 take any
humble Christian and ask nun what M Was ne
Christ that HIS life comes into my mlnd anu lhto my
heart tben am CHRISTIAN: then have power that AZ
other times have lie is. IN the Providence OF God,
the link which brings me into TINS close relation WIN my
Father and when with my Father 40 not need my
Mediator anv more But when am outside have sunk
down and got away from God. aud want To get back
then want my Christ don't see the distinction be-
tween the terms natural and supernatural as they are
used 1t never tormened me come into this meeting,
and always hear something aponl inc natural anu
supernatural In the Ministerial Union Tor 20 years
have heard nothing but discussion OF that Wheh ma
myself supernatural as wei as hatui"I noN hinulu
doubt that Christ was supernatural Every human
being is supernatural Part can be explained ana
part cannot so II was with christ part WIS hdtula'
life another part came from circumstances ana cduch-
ton Consequently ne came uuo' sp.ClTi 5 ne
from the past All that Is nature but WIeIe u'u no
rest come 'front.' Who knows where Shakespeare,
Dante. Mohammed came from NoDoay can ,e': I'M t
is the supernatural History works according 10 la" buI
that DO pushed too lar Inc Supernatural oehb '
able TO resist the laws and tendencies OF things.
able 10 forward mem II Jesus utIs "ds
an unusual share or this / ma three classes OF
persons IN the world. who described best by that
smile OF Lord BacOn's. There one BET OF men who
are the ants they ana get the gram ana bfing
upon il at all Those the men living on authority oil
church person, subject 10 authority that they can
and life Then there is another class Of who are
like the spider who spin their web entirely out OF them
selves that Is the class who make religion ana receive
It, who think they everything. Then there Is the
bee who goes aud uds food and works It aud
makes Il his and that take II Is the man VINO &C
cepts lowy ana gratefully that which comes 10 hun,
MRS HowE-THE Essence OF CHRISTIANITY.
II have permission would say few words about tho
impression the essay made upon me. ] let All that
sweetness and felicity IN II OF which Mr. Charming spoke
TO me here aud II wished 70 make little re
Oinder. thing 1t does seem 10 me that Mr Potter
much the world calls itself Christian 10 be really chris
tan slill matter which will not MAKE you fashionable
or POPULAR which cannot be done without cOunct ana
good deal OF conflict with what Is most popular and cur
rent in society aud l feel nobody - CHRISTIAN
And another thing Ia that the WORD CHRIS
tian II you 60 down 70 the common people. 10
fbs poor whom II seems 10 me Christ had most
at heart in wished 10 do for the WORLD and then
you will find the Christian to them means neghDor,
friend brother somebody for them, who holds
them dear and will sacrifices for them. About the
definitions OF the word also remember something
read lately In Kant, the philosopher. He Gays dehn
toms In place only In mathematics ana tbat phlio
sophical truths be explained ana illustrated not de-
fined because philosophy is Ouly seeking; II does not
finally possess-and define thing gain that know
detnitou thought also, in the connection. after
what Mr. Clarke said Of those words OF Christ Not as
fine world eyeth give you" And II seemed 10
10 express how wonderfully spiritual value Is given from
one 10 another In such way that nothing Is
os of IT, Everything else ia lost aud dispersed In the
giving but spiritual gifts are not lost
ME. MAssON-THE AuGuSIINIAh EVOLUTION OF CHRIs