The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1869-10-13

desirable.
VIVA. L Green, Esq: Immigration is
spoken Of as =" free This IS. possibly,
aisaPpliea,iOn OF wori, and perhaps spon-
taneous. is wOrd more applicable to the
idea which it is desired TO express. sieee
the iaAorers who have been brought into
the country are absolutely free.--frec to
engage, or not to engage. as they may see
it This thing is eertsin-that unless we
can grow sugar. and good lot Of i'll |
hardly know What is to become Of US To
do 50, we must compete with other sugar
growing countries Of the world. which do
organize Efforts to obtain eheNp labor, IL
our labor is materially higher than theirs,
We can not compete with them. Viii
any one in this meeting point out eoun-
try or locality within the Tropics, into
which the European race has gone to eul.
tivais the prOdaets Of the Tropics BY their
own labor. We must have the labor
and that labor, from the dark races, II
We can not get it, We must stop our opera
tons aud the object Of this meeting is
10 ascertain how it is to be obtained.
We have been looking forward to Treaty
and to benefit our planting interest But
that, | ,hipk We may say, is played out.
and recent events in Cubs seem to indi-
cate that she will bsfOre long. be a compe-
titor in the Market of our chief customer.
at great advantage over US, aud can raise
the article much cheaper. therefore do
not see anything before rs but to get our
labor as eheaply as possible. nor do l
see any wrong in our present system, but
would move toadd the word also, after the
last word China. Motion adopted, and the
resolution being put to the meeting was
carried with three dissenting voices.
The fourth resolution was put and car
ried with great unaniuity, two or three
dissenting,
The iith resolution seemed to bring out
the debaters.
A. Francis Judd, Esq, then took the
floor, and after remarking that gentlemen
Of his profession. Qawyersl had an extern
sive knowledge of the workings Of the la
bor system proceeded: Can not Sugar
Plantation be run to better advantage with
fewer men aud larger wages paid to each
man. Does it not make one grieved to
see three men sometimes. on one cart.
The men are in debt, and go TO to the field
under the Encouragement of debt. and
when their time is up, are induced to en-
gage again, under a promise. perhaps, to
give up that debt or are paid of in goods
from the stors-would it not be better to
occasionally forgive them a debt and
give them better homes; this would
encourage them and get better labor
for them. Natives are prejudiced against
working on n plantation, and | would
ask why is it sol l have known a
native who had the offer Of not being
put to trial for an alleged offence agaius,
the laws (kaonaite,) if he would consent
to 60 on one of the HilO plantations,
prefer to stand tho hsaArSi Of the trial.
Capt. james Makee: For my part,
have no occasion to complain of the guam
tity Of labor get from each Of my hands.
| get from each man all the labor be ought
to give, or ought to require. 1t is the
men which | need, and believe the same
to be the fact with my neighbors and ae-
quaintanees- Nor do keep men to one
level of wages A man who shows him
self capable, gets better wages than one
who does not. In this respect, accord
with what Mr.. Wilder has said. (Mr. W.
made similar remark; but my farther
experience with my native hands is, that
the men who gets the highest wages,
generally get the most in debt at the end
Of the year, or lie by" the most often.
Number is what / need.
Mr.. Sam1 Alexander, of Waihee 1t is
Of no use to think that increase OF wages
will increase the number Of hands available
for labor. for the labor is not in the com
try. The natives appear to me to be IA
pidly dying out, and unless more labor is
procured soon, some of the plantations
mus; stop. Nor can wages be advanced
to any considerable degree, for if that
should take place. there would be no mar
gin for profits, at all. Both the natives
and Chinese, on the plantations, are far
better of in every way, than they are any
where else.
Mr.. Sherman Peck said that be entirely
with what had been said by Mr..
and could not add much. Re
yarding the debt, which had been referred
io,-it had not risen from the planters, but
rom the system Of advances, which had
been rendered necessary by the habit Of
Ehalemen to make advances, so that the
native would not engage unless the adj
rance was offered as an inducemsnt.
Hence, he begins his term Of engagement
a debt.
Mr.. Bailey. Of Maui: Natives are eff
:ient and wiling workers. and have alto
yetber depended on them. ami have always