Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1869-06-02
KILOGRAMS TO THE STAR.
This Afternoon's DISPATCHES,
INTERVIEW BETWEEN BEN WADE
AND fHE PRESIDENT.

What Ben Said-what the President Said
Ben Hasn't Much to Say About Impeach.
What IL IL Cracked U TO be-''Hard Work
and Little Thanks''-Ken Advises Him to
Take Care Of HIS Friends and Let the
Other Fellows Go 10 the DIV ade Feels
Good Ont 81 HarneSs-kicks Up Behind
and Before-Den't Care ii School Keeps
or Not.
Especial Dispatch to The Star.l
NEW YORK June 2.-The Washington Hsrald
correspondence has the following:
WASHINGTON, June 1, 1859,
Old Ben. Wade, VINO had been up AZ Bostou
at the meeting of the Directors of the Pa
cihc Railroad, came here yesterday on hrs
wsy to his home in Ohio, to see, as he says
him" Being out Of office, he has nc fayors to
ask, either for himself or his friends, and the
doors of the various heads of Departments open
TO MN with wonderful freedom. Old Ben paid
his respects to the President while here. and
they smoked cigar together, and discussed
what might have been. and what is. When
the impeachment trial was in progress no m an
was more confident than Grant that Wade
would be President in place OF Andrew John SON
to be deposed. The interview Yesterday uatu.
raily touched upon this point, but Wade was
not disposed to talk about it. He therefore
turned the conversation by asking Grant If he
had got fairly into the harness vet Grant re-.
piled that he had, but added that the Presi-
oepcy Was not what II was cracked up to be-
Hard work, hard work, Wade" said the
President, sand little thanks" and then he took
strong pull at his cigar, and sighed as il he
regretted that he had been elected. "Ihat's
been the complaint Of every President" re.
piled Wade, "and yet every politician in the
country IS crazy on the subject Of the Presi.
dency. Whv, General, do you know that every
man In the U. 5. Senate wants to be President,
and that's been the case from the beginning of
the Government" Grant opened his ewes At
this, and he seemed to comprehend why the
Senate was captious with the President,
81 find that can't please everybody in this
office" observed Grant "Of course YOU can't ,,
responded Wade, 81 hope you don't expect to
do mat. "Well, no, not exactly" said Grant:
"but still didn't expect 1t would be so din
cult 10 please those / try to please" SWELL
said Wade, eff were President, would take
care OF my friends who made me President as
well as could, and let the other fellows growl
ana 60 to the devil. They would make a noise
anyhow.""Supp0se," interposed Grant, s.your
friends We're exorbitant in their demands upon
would do all could for them, and then If they
were not satisfied, i would tell then,
they might make the best out OF it." said
Wade. show do you like private life, Wade
after being so long in the Senate,'' asked
Grant. "Its just like a boy getting ont OF
school, said Wade; have no bother with fsl.
lows running after me for this, that and the
other thing, and 1 can enjoy myself, and feel
independent" 'Private lite is the best guess
Mr.. Wade" said Grant, "there Is more peace
to IT, and then you are your own master /"
well 1 would be that anyhow" said Wade,
with denant toss ofhIs massive head "When
! was Senator. never allowed any of those
fellows to boss me, always had my own
way" This was a hint for Grant. whether
he improves it remains to be seem Ben Wade
left for Ohio TO. night