The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-11-06
A Fcninn's Opinion ON Cladstono's Amnesty
L4etter-Strongth aud Working Of tho Orguu-


A Fcninn's Opinion ON Cladstono's Amnesty
Letter-Strongth aud Working Of tho Oraan-
ixati0n.
LONDON. Oct. 90. 1869.
About an hour before sitting down to write this
letter had long interview with an Irish gentle
man o., position who has been from the commence
ment OF the movement and who still is deeply I'M
plcated In the Fenian conspiracy. have known
nm Tor several years and am quite certain that he
would not msacad me In any news he might give
me respecting tho great Irish plot, for which, In
my humble opinion. no one can wonder at every
Irishnan joining heart and hand. My friend says
that the letter OF Mir. Gladstone to the Limerick
Amnesty Association has revived in ireland
the feeling OF hatred to the British government
which since the passing OF the Irish Church
bill had been rast dying out Had Mr. Gladstone
promised even future and conditional amnesty;
had ne SAID that II no violent speeches or tur
bulent speeches took place within o given time
there would have been some oophole, some light OF
hope through which even the most energetic OF the
Fenians could see some h0peof future release. But
the letter leaves no means by which even the most
sanguine could hope, could form any hope. for the
future; ana my friend says that The whole Fenian
organization in Ireland has determined In conse-
quenoe OF this letter, to go In the old wayto get
what help they can from their brethren Ia America
to keep the British government In Ireland in contin-
ual hot water. and. in word to "do or dien for the
cause OF liberty.
Most Engllshmen who as you know. think little
and know less Of what IS gong on under their very
feet, have an idea that although Ireland viii be a
thorn in England's side for some years to come It
Is daily becoming more and more loyal to the British
government. The Information I have from my
friend who, as said before. knows everything that
Is going On IN The Fenian movement, tends exactly
to The reverse OF this. He says that had the govern
Inent granted an amnesty 10 the political prisoners
Fenanism would have been virtually knocked upon
the head, at any rate for time; and that ii really
liberal land measure had been passed its death
blow would have been given. But this great blum
der OF the prenlers has not only put oil chance OF
the association dying out at an end, but 1t has ab0o
determined the leaders to accept the proered aid OF
the "aed' party on the Continent aud we shah see
many foreigners tomorrow at the great demonstra-
ton that Is TO be held IN hyde Park.
have KNOWN for some considerable time that the
republicans OF France had secretly offered the irish
Fenans their present ardent sympathy and their
future potent aid II the republican party Ia France
over succeeds in gaining an ascendancy ID That
countrywide deDead upon It there Is no medium
between the government OF Napoleon and the very
reodest OF red republlcs-not republics such you
Americans understand the word, but simply strug-
giles OF lie and death for the property OF every
who has AM tnlng 10 lose-I say, If the republican
parry ever succeeds IN France 1t Will be chiefly owing
TO the English press that it does Tnls every
Frenchman. no matter what his party may be- fully
Acknowledges. IRON the ultra tory Standard to the
extreme llOeral Nes every paper In England iS and
has been for years busy wriIiag down the Emperor
men as ruIo cannot bear that any one should cat
drink be clad, sleep, pray or 30 governed Otherwise
Dean Swift said, "Orthodoxy IS my doxy; helero-
doXy is anybody eisc's doxy." Ko cannot unler-
stand why France should be governed by mat Is
called personal government while they are ruled BY
Parliament and constitutional forms Therefore 1t
Is that they-hat Is The press. their public voice
run down the emperor anu are aiding 80 produce a
revolution and anarchy IN France. TGey little
think what they arc bringing forth, and
sung SUN '" them. No souher viii '' repanIic VI" be-
established in Franco than the irish renans WIN be
offered aid and nelp ana material assistance. Moth
Ing would DC more popular IA France than war
With England Oh account OF Ireland. From the
most pious or the Roman Catholic party IN france
to the most ultra OF the red4eSt republicans the sym
pathy with Ireland IS very strong indeed. on the
otner side we Lnglishmsn are equally mated.
upon great part OF europe the perp'cl2ls q2ctrne
OF Tree trade, and that We have gained whio they
have greatly lost thereby ireland Is more OF Celtic
had more or less sympathy for Irelands wrongs,
and this they VIII show practically when the proper
time comes
mentioned in former letter that the Orange
men ana Catholics had now, Ia great measure,
combined Their forces AMI their resources, aud tina.
tho name "Ten,an" would, Tor the future, be dropped
and the term NATIONAL" be substituted. This, l
am now told VIII nor DO Insisted on for the present.
The Fenian Organization has worked well, and
tie name OF felian Is SO well known, that 1t has
been deemed better for tho present to retain 1t
Gladstones leter, In Which he says that the Fenian
conspiracy and organization Is not dead. although
The former part OF this is true the latter
2 fable The organization IS now quite as
full OF he as It eyer was. 0f this
text OF Mr. @ adsione's letter to the Limerick
Amnesty Association, although only sent from
or Tuesday, 1t was known 10 every Fepan in the
United Kingdom within twelve hours | was told
tie whole pitn or the lolter BY irish laborer at
London A
out OF the gay country place, Twelve hours before
even an abstract OF 1t appeared m the London
what il called In yoar country ian underground
Taiiway"-or ratAer an gnaergroand teiesraphic
epartmcn-amon9 the Fenians | am very much
matakea. aud Lnglisnmen viii see tais some day
or other.
Here III London where for many months John
Bnii has firmly beieyed Eeaaa,sm 70 be a thing OF
the past. did not as you know. 10000 well dressed
aud Respectable Iacn assemble IN orderly anu sJste-
matte columns, about fortnight ago. and march,
IS regularly rs b.cops could, TO the funeral OF Mar
TN. tho PRIMER, who Was thought 10 be Kelly
There was not man prasent IN 4 that great multi
iIde but what waa Eenian, ana driiled Feaian,
too. The Eleea ribbon at the buttonhole tod
what each map came there for; and tho soldier
Ike nearlnr oil every inGiYitiusi showed AZ once
That something more useful ;sal mercy belonging
20 the organization had been taught each man.
But EngisAuan @ul not believe this. AS Tie
Romans ala before the fail OF the Roman
empire. we are eating and drinking, marrying
and alylnR ia Marriage and thi5 with colonies that
are counting rae hours before they throw or the
Joke Of England, Ireland only waiting for the signal
tAsDeT from AtIg1cd OF TTauGt 10 declare neTSeiI u
republic; the greas mass OF the working people
thoroughly imDued win republican notions through
out England, ana the trade OF the country almost
8 starassl.. Bus we care not. srlhe tau Will last
our time, after tlat''-who cares
Lord Stanley on His Fathers Death and
Funeral.
Lord Stanley addressed the following letter to the
Earl OF Scaton. the Lord Lieutenant OF his county,
In Lancashire:-
KNowsLHY, Oct. "a 1862
DEAR SfAroN-Your kind note Of to day has given
Lady Derby and myself much pleasure as auy-
thing can, under the melancholy circumstances In
winch we are placed We are deeply grateful for 1t.
With reference to your expression OF wish to join
IN paying Tie last mark OF respect tony lamented
father, | need hardly say that there IS no person
whom, on every ground, We should moro readily IN
vie 10 take part In mat duty we're anything in the