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TIE 1s1sH CHURCH BILL IN THE COMMONS
SPEECHES OF NIB. GLADSTONE, mR. DIsRAELs
MR. BRIGHT AND oTdEBsEt1cTT1Nd SCENES;
IN THE HOUSE,.
LONDON July 15-In the House Of Com
mons, this evening. the Irish Church bul' as
amended in the House OF Lords. came up for
consideration. There VIZ 8 a full attendance OF
noemhers. and the galleries were crowded with
spectators.
Mr.. GlsdsioI9, Oh rising, was greeted With
loud cheers by the Liberals, and with derisive
shouts from the Tory bsuches. he said, with
respect to the amendments which had been
made to the bin, that the Government pro-
posed to restore the preamble and the date OF
disestablahment as they appeared in the org
inal bill; they would agree to the amendmet ts
relating to curates' annuitles and to the pro-
lection Of annutants, with some modihcatlons'
b,kail other amendments they should oppose,
with the single exception Of the grant OF half
a million onpounds in lieu Of private benefac-
tions made before LOGO.
mr.. DisIaeli followed. He said that although
the abstract principles of the bill had been re-
peatedly discussed, there had been little DIS
cnss;on ON the details Of its. provisions. he
boped that the amendments L.ade in the House
ofLoras would receive the calm consideration
OF the Commuusx ~ ?, ,,} ~
MIR. Gladstone tben moved that the House
disagree to the preamble as smended. ne
thought the ooncurfebs endowment, whicn tne
Lords had in view, . very different scne"e
from that Of Mr. Pitt, which, contemplated an
established Cathohe Church side BY side VITA
the Estsb,ishsa Chmch, and u,der state To con-
tiol. Concurrent endnyment az noF unoer-
stood. wsatDtaiiy, opposed to the prino'paes OF
the biIL and was Of tucR4 cnaracser as " ~
entirely opposed to the spirit OF the uiaes.. - -
the House could be Induced 70 agree t,,. g y y
was certain that the country, eapec'aaiy INC
large Constituencies. ,would never sanction IL
He stfongL AdFecatedi the appropriation ol the
surplus; funds as originally proposed, wa.n .
bfoviso reserving 10 Parliament controtoVet
them. - ,:1eIii.:: :!!,'ts
:, Mr.. Dluaeli thought the House ought 70
agree to the amended preamble. He Asserted
Irthat the House Of Lords did not de0re the Fe'
servation OF the surplus tor purposes o. con-
current endowment, and fidiculedT the plan
for its appropriation. BE hoped the, house
would prevent such waste Of the, public
funds, and not allow to be dealt with in
this loose md vague manner. Es.!g;,:...
,-afr. BaIl. member. from Dubliu University,
thoueht the restoration OF the original preaM-
BILE would be fatal to the many advantages Sc
cured to the Church By the Lords.
Mr.. Bright admitted that ct . former time ne
bsd.-propossa .ssmesAing like the pressa.
scheme Of concurrent endowment; but he de-
clsred that public feeling WAS nov totally op'
posed to religious endownents, and no minis
ter would be able to carry such scheme. BE
felt that all the plans. save the one originally
proposed fy tae hiH, were 90 full Of difficulties
that It would be idle to discuss them.
sir Roundsll Palmer said, although not
supporter. Of concurrent endowment, he con-
sidsred that. under the circumstances, the
Grants for residences, to clergy Of the reat ma
iority could not be refused out OF Chat fund
which, contrary to his ideas. they had declared
was wropgfully taken from the great nsiority
and used for the religious pwposessof the
minority. Unless some proposal Of this kind
was agreed to, they would neYer ests niisn re-
igious equality or satisfy the expectations OF
the Irish. The7 should not alowthsr anti
Catholic prejudices 70 refuse thtl sms9 Y poon 70
the great majority.
The House then divided, and the amend
ment Of the House OF Lords with re'"ect g
endowments was disagreed to BY vote OF S4S
against IA; the ma1oRiJfor the government
124.
The amendment ID regard the appfopRis-
tion Of the surplus funds sas also disagreed to
6y vote Of 246 against 1e4.
Mr.. Gladstone then moved the restoratinn
Of the original date, namely, the 1st day OF
January, 1871, for the dissolution OF the legis-
lative union between tie Churches Of. England
and Ireland. and alter some discussion the date
was restored without Q division.
The House then adjourned.
LONDON, July l6.-ln the House OF COM