The New York herald., 1869-06-20
The Lords and the irish Church Bill
Meeting ut the Duke of MarlbOrOugI's.


meeting OF members OF the Upper H0use-140 in
number-was held at the Duke OF Mariborough's
residence ON Saturday. the 5th InsJ to consider the
course to be taken by the Lords as TO the Irish
Church bill. II was almost exclusively meeting of
lay Peers, and the large majority were strongly IN
favor Of throwing out the bill on the second reading.
THIS course was vigorously supported by Lord
Derby, Lord Cairns, Lord HarrowDy lwho Will very
probably move the amendment IN the House OF
Lords) the Dukes OF Marlborough and Rutland
Lords Elenborough, Bandon and Redesdale, and
the main strength OF the conservative party.
This mode OF proceeding Is advocated most
irish Peers-one, it is understood Roman
Catholic-were present, and spoke strongly against
the bill. Lord Carnarvon and Lord Stanhope were
In favor OF allowing the bill to be read a second
were followed IN this opinion principally by younger
members OF the House. Lord salisbury seems to lie
as yet undecided as To which course s the best TO
pursue. Throughout the meeting there was the
strongest feeling that the bill must rejected. or
altered In some essential points; and there was q
desile al least equally strong to ascertain, IN The
the who.e nation on the subject.
SuDIoined IS list Of the Peers preseat:-
The Archbishop OF Dublin the Duke or Abercorn,
the Earl OF Harrowby, Earl OF Abergavenny, Eafl
Amherst, Earl Bandon, vlscount Bangor Lord Bate
champ, Duke OF Beaufort, Lord Berners, Bishop OF
Gloucester, Lord Blaney, Lord Bolton Earl OF Brad
Buccleuch, Duke OF buckingham, Earl Cadogan,
Lord Cairns, Earl Carnarvon, Lord CastlemaIne,
Lord Chelmsford Lord Churston, Earl Clancarty,
Lord Colchester, Lord Colvnie, Lord ClarIna,
Earl Coventry. Earl Couriown, Lord Crofton.
Earl Darnley, Earl Dartmouth, Lord de L'lsle,
Earl Denbign, Lord Denman, Earl Derby, Lord
de Kos, Lord de SaumareZ, Viscount de Vesci, Earl
Devon, Lord Digby, Marquis Of DOwnshire, Marquis
of DrogheIa, Earl Dunmore Lord Dunboyne, Lord
Dunsany. Lord Egerton, Earl Egremont, Earl Eldon,
Lord Elphnstone, Earl OF Enniskillen, ViscounG EX
mouth, Lord faveIsham, Earl Fitzwiliam, Lord
tle Earl of Haddington, vIscount Hardlnge. Earl
Hardwcke, Earl Hardwood, Earl Of Harrington.
mixer, vlscount Hereford, Lord Heytesbury, Earl
iome, Earl OF Huntington, Lord Hylton, Lord
Kesteven, Lord KilInane, Earl OF Kingston Earl
Lauderdae, Ear Leitrin. Earl Levin and Melville,
Earl OF Limerick, Earl OF Longford Earl Of Lons-
dale, Earl OF Lucan, Lord Lytton, Earl of Macce-
neld, Lar OF Malmesbury Duke OF Manchester, Earl
Manvers, Duke Of Marlborough, Viscount Melville
Niscount Middleton, Earl Nelson, Lord NOrthwick
Lord Ormathwalte Lord O'NeIli. MARQUIS of or.
monde. Lord Penryn, Bishop OF Peterborough. Earl
Potarllngton, Lord Raglan, Lord Ravensworth, Lord
Redesdale, Duke OF Ricnmond, Lord Rivers, Earl OF
ST Leonards, Marquis OF Salisbury. Lord SAL
toun, Earl Of Sandwich, Lord Scarsdae, Earl OF
ssImssae Ear stanSona ord snIaa Lord ni
Stradbroke, Lord Strathnairn, Earl OF Tankerville,
Viscount Tempetown, Lord Thurow, Lord rrede-
gar, Earl Verulam, Lord Walsingham. Earl OF War
wick, Duke OF Wellington Marquis OF Westmeath,
Ear OF wilton, Marquis Of Winchester, Lord wyn-
ford, dc.
the representatives OF the press were not OF
course, admitted to the meeting but the following
version has been furnished 10y friendly hand to
Lord Cairns addressed the meeting at considerable
length, urging that the best course would, under
du Tue Ue W TtJtCI tue on tu0
second reading. The leaders OF the party were
moss anxious not TO fetter the Judgment OF the
Peers. but he thought the Earl OF narrowly was
the bes: peer " take the Initiative from mis- inde-
pendent position, and that he deserved the support
OF the party. The Marquis Of salisbury spoke In op-
position TO this course rs did the Earl Of Carnarvon
but II was generally thought that, under the very
fair and honest cloak OF desire for the interests OF
tue irish Church, the interests Of their order
not overlooked by those peers, or by Earl Stanhope.
The Earl OF Derby spoke most eloquently and warmly
In favor OF the rejection OF the blli The Earl OF
Denbigh. a Roman Catholic peer, alone declared his
intention Of voting Tor the bl Besides the two
noble lords previously mentioned. Is thought that
the Earl Of Limerick and Earl Nelson, from their
for free church, VIII abstain fo0m voting, and
the former will probably vote ior the bill. The Duke
OF Rutland and others warmly advocated resistance
to the BILL The tone OF the meeting was most frm,
aud the unwillingness 10 near any but Of great
mark against Lord Caring advice very determl ned.
As became such meeting no allusion was made to
the language used out OF DOORS No formal resolu.
tons were come to, the Independent Judgment Of
each peer being carefully guarded; but the result
will be that the whole strength OF the opposition will
be brought against the bill, the rejection Of
winch viii be moved By the Earl Of narrowly. The
majority will probably be 80.