, 1869-03-18
THE IRISH CHURCH,
Gladstone's Di.sstz zblt,hmeus rlan.

cnlloren tna several 1Ereat-grandehlldfen.
THE IRISH CHURCH.
GfatstoEe's Dissstx xbltlhmenk PLAN.
In Committee OF The Whole House OF Com.
rois, after the head, ot the lcts relating to
the Established Church OF Ireland and Nay
nooth and tho drst resolution Ct last scar had
betn read, Mr. Giadstope, who was yeie-
ueuly chsered BY bis supporters, proceeded
to unfold his plan, preiae5Dg it b5 = lo1g e1-
ordium, In which he glanced rapidly at the
previous ktaces Of the question, and an
sweFed By antieipaticn some ol the principal
plecgt given ~ 1hose VINO had taken mp the
question, he predicated OF the bill that 1t
should put an lnmt dlate end to the estab.
ll:hmcnt AND the public endowment OF the
Hhh Church, thai It sh.u!d be th rough. but
.t the same time lioeral snd iuuuisent,
respect. He diyited hts DESCRIPTION Of the
bill into three parts-its immediate effe:t, its
effect ut cettsln time dxe1 {bnt not uualter-
asIy) at January !, ISL, AID It's operation
1hen what &c called the process OF Tinding.up
the adnils Of the It-h t:nurch wss bro14ht
that the present Ecclesiastical Commts lou
Should be at ouce wound up. and new Cum.
miksion appointed TOR ten Years, in which the
property oI the Irish Church, subject to life
iIlerett+, would be vested from the iime kf
tte Pattagc OF 1he bill. % that, technically
dlerdowment Of the Irish Church, Dl.es-
tablishment would be P. stpoped until the 1st
OF January, 1871. Al that GATE the uutou
between the churches OF England and Ire
land wculd be dissolved, all ecclt s!astical
corr oJations wonld be be abolished, the
ecclesiastical laws would 10 logger be bind
ing ss lass; except that ID , would be un-
derstood to exist a. the terms Of thc yo1rn-
anty cuptracs between clerry aud laity, until
they we're alltred BY the governing body Of
the Disettahllthed Church. In the Interval be-
Jan. ]. 1871, and during the reorganization Of
the lhutch. It was proposed that appoint.
ments should be nade to spiritual offices. bat
That they should not ca ~ with them the
frtehoiu OF copftr vested interests. Ap.
po!utments wcu!d also be made ID the sarae
bisbop4ics, but only en- th= prayer Of the
Bisbups 10 cousecrate particular person to
4 vscancy; but these app .iutmen1s, too.
would carry with them no vested interests,
and no rights Of peerage Crown l1sius,,
also, In the interval between the two periods
would te filled On the sane principles. To
a4sEt In the feoExArixation OF tho Church,
and to tAror the creation Of bodY which
could negotiate On behalf OF the Church with
the Commis.ioterr the Convention act,
which prevented the 'eembling OF the clergy
ard lai'y Of the Church, would be At oace re.
Qute en- In Council to recognize any governing
body which the clergy knd latty Of the
Disessa b1lshed Church might agree On,
and which actually represented both;
and that body T1uid be Incorporated.
Ing followed me thus lar, Will have perceived
that We havcc omplete technical dlsepd ".
ment on the passing OF the act, and complete
and actual aifestabll.hment on the day N bs
named in the act, and now st.ndfnE tor the
lst Of January. 1871. Next comes the task of
carrying out all those special Arrangements
By meacs 0: which the interests OF The parties
affected BY this great charge will h4Ee to be
tc'tlcd and adjusted In detail. Those az
rargcn tnts embrace the vested Interests Of
tnc7nbenls-and oy the word incnrnh ut
Wish to oe understood o. nearieg Bishop
or dlRhifRry of the Ctutch, al we'll as clergy
man having parochlAl caasre-the vested
interests of curates. the case of lay aud minor
ofac.s. the compensation Tor adso zsons; the
p1orlEiols s TO be adopted with regard to
private epdp~msatt. ths pro,iaiuns with Re-
houses. graye-ytrhs ali Of thus, Of course.
beng subject to the life Interests recognize
BY the bill. IA lAuyh.1 there arc the arrange
mtn.s connected 1ith the winding up OF the
Rtgiun. Dontns, the ARRANGEMENTS connected
with the Nindlsg up OF MaYpooth, the ar
mutation rent: eharpe.the arrangements With
respect to the large class of ptUperly affected
| BY tie proprrty purchase ctaus-s, and the
ARA gcncnes col INJECTED with he sale OF the
Church lands By the Commissioners. Let
mo say word FIRST with rc.pcct to that
which is tie largest Of these subjcct-uamelv,
| tts cssc Of The vcsted Interest Of Incumhents.
lhc plan Will I've this; I he amount OF In
ceme 10 which eacn Incumbent ts entitled t.
vi! he aseersAlncd 1t viii os ma'!c subject
10 dedrctson tor the curates be may have
tnpluytd. Ii will be made payublc, IL the
case Of ench, so long as he DISCHARGES tbe
duly. Az tLen there viii teA provision
that The nnruity Itself may be commu&eo,
! upon the hatis OF ca pitaliziuv 1t us m apu1ty
| Tor life. Therefore, the conmu.n,ion, laki L
resent LIS who'll Interest in til: income Lc
receives, prcsumiug 1t to last for llfc. THIS
Communication can only be mtde
upon the application OF the tncumbeut.
nc must be the prime mover 10
hrirgine 1t about; Upon nis aopica'lon tho
shall ca!l, ior .hortnt.s. the church ho1y,
! but II Will be paid to the church budy suo,
tcct to The leRal trust NJ di.rha1R!pt thr Oh
| ligation or covenant Nhtch We bud ousarlvck
10 dlsctasGc 10 the tucumteu NAMELY, to
rlve him the ant uisy In iuil 80 long A. DC dts.
charged the dutic. The recognition OF life
I ip'aIea's, Hh,ca would be condislot al a4 re-
gafds tho peEiornancc Of tho duties rhas arc
nos 1hc eqais ateut for the income. ~onld be
.uncondltt. nal III other respects. We ST. 'uld
uoi attempt 10 lntr:lore. Ia the NAN, With
the po%lltoo Of tho clcrgym N, either ~ pro-
i1Ie,os u uccup'er OF Land. rntre IL, ho T.
over. cuc exception. We propose inst thc
ilthe commut4t'on seut-charuo fh.ll ~
once ard absolutely. and without any inter.
seLipg life Interest, vest Ia the Commits ,lou
under tho act. There Is another very small
exception which sehavr thought ii :, m axe.
ln'Tc arc iu ireland cases o.
churches wholly rulnous, many ia
| Eraveyhrds. but many apart from grlyeyards.
In some csscs The lreehold may be in tue sn-
cumssnt Of tho parish. We propose ut once
10 dhpossess him Ut that freeno,i. II may
be desirable that theso ai:es should be dl1.
| posed Of clsher by throwing the into tho
burial lGrounds OF in some Other N sinner, but
tht re cau be 10 adrao1age in keeping up that
| barren 1tecI old, which L totally unprpduc-
tive CT practical results 10 the clergyman,
| aud Is purely incidental to bis position as
cteyR ymau OF . church established by la&.
| }Hear.l There L another cnange which would
be made Immediately uoon tue d1*e>tabll4h-
ment Of the Church, aed which It II ms .u:y
ntttee-tlthouga not without reEeet as iar as
the tndtEtduala are couctfaed-t think NC
| cannot htsitate to pEopo,e 70 the comnittee
II Il the P efaxes OF the lrtah Bishops should
| lapse with the disestahlahmcn Of tic Church.
| With It gard 10 cusA' es ,lIe Commissioners are
TO deter nine Hao are cu'ate. p:rtna1en:ly
| employed, aud they would be treated Ia the
! sane way By the iucuu be1ts, ID ,sc not per.
manently employed Eou'd b. awarded some
Eratn1sT. Win respect to pr vate endow-
lA1ve IN amount they are various In form
such as endowmenEs 10 glebe lands. II tttues,
and IN money, And the defuItIon Of private
endowmt uts We thitk /, iaIr TO take is this !:
In the hres placr. It mnst be 1horey w:ich
| has been contributed 1Eum private sources. l.
ffhT hAp0 a n
! as Ii example IL The case oI P,itnate Boulter
| and Primsle Robins on but III ynyh given By
persons holdiEe public position, It's hsvt. E
been given IN private capacity ey,d.n IL
| constitutes it pirate endo* meut. Bat We
| limit It by date, AID the date We n.re chosen
t to propose 10 Parliament for the tlni a:ion
| Is the ycar 156J-she year Of The Restpratl9n.
| The eason that has rrconmeEdtd the date
| 10 L. Is the fact that the Re.tofa lon was
real ; the period ~ WHICH the Chusca Of Ire
lrrtsld-sseumed IL. present. legislative ahape
| ard character. ETfnM @e could lr.ce the
| private e1dowments bt5oud that pert I'd, the
| hrst effect would DC TO rasse 1 strong contro-
versy h,rwetn the l1tnds oil Prssoy-
to the time Of -cuArles H., .. which
rerind the ecclesiastical coLdt.Eon both of
England and Ireland became distinct, Nc ask
you, lhen, 10 dis fIgnisa pr1vste aud public
| eodow ueats. because Ee know hls.ot1c4iiy
tnst mau, at ary rate kne~ whs, he Was
doing, and the Eair presump:l-n atis-s that
u he gave hta money to the Church IL Was
| far The support OF that form Of religion to
which |. Il now applied. The value OF pd-
vate endo mel ntt, a far rs We hsvc been ab|e
to ascertain It, Is not more than ESQ.,, 600,
between llnds, ttthes and money. 1t Is retY
uncertain. There msJ be good deal OF ID
| gal search and legal eIpen~ lure r.guisi-e n
orc e ~ obtain evidence upoa the titles. We
| propose, therefore, to autnoriz- the C1muls-
e1onezs TO aalow the parties reasonable e.