Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1869-11-15
TAE FlcATlsTs.
MccOels and A len lntsrviswsd by q
fE Reporter. liAl SO
Wat fhCy Think Of Zach Other and the
laie Fiasco.

Il lfta ~ EIFt XHt
We rode on until the coach stopped
in frOntOf an old-fashiOned farm house
ON the banks Of the Ohio, known as
the Buckeye House. Here we alight-
( ed, and, ascending the porch, we were
moving leisurely along, in the hope o.
meeting some friendly face TO welcome
US, when we were brought TO a haltby
the abrupt inquiry of "What do you
want?" from u powerful and rather
j unInusical voice. 81 wish to see Mr.
Alien, sir" was our polite reply.
"Hold on minute. Who are you?'
We answered: tWeare the req or5er OF
the New York Herald, and would like
to speak with Mr.. Allen few mo-
ments." The gentleman entered the
house, and we heard him say: ''Ihe
reporter of the New York Herald Is
outside and would like TO see you.p
'Tell him TO come In" said the party
addressed, and in we went without
further invitation. "GoOd day, Mr..
Allen" said we. s'GOod day, sir"
replied the pugilist, who was then sit
ting in front Of a blazing fire of btu
minous coal, drying his hands, which
he had been rubbing with some color
less fluid to harden them. WeWatch-
ed him a few moments at this busi-
ness, and then the following cOnver-
satiOn took place: sL
Reporter-You are not Using the
usual dark substance which prize
fighters generally put on their hands
I TO harden them?
Allen-No this Is far better; II
I makes the hands harder, and does not
{ look so bad as the other stuff. Feel
1 exhibiting his hands).
I Reporter - Your hands are very
hard, truly; and they are wonder
/ fully perfect, considering the amount
| of hard hitting that they have had to
/ do during your pugilistie career.
Allen-Ihat's because / know how
I to hit. / always see what | am hit
( ting at before i strike, and when i
/ send in blow / do 1t straight from
/ the shoulder, thus lsending his fist
out with the back Of his hand DOWN
and not in this way-{gOing through
the brOad-sword exercise with his
clenched hand). e-
( RepOrter-HOw Is McCoole's hands?
Did you notice them when you last
I fought?
Allen-His hands ought to be right
tough; he never could hit hard enough
to hurt them. -rrer- 4rrErr
Reporter-Ah! bat we saw him give
Aaron Jones a blow in the front of the
head that put him to sleep for fifteen
minutes.
Al!en-It must have been JONES'
hour TO have his midday nap then,
and he went to sleep accordingly.
YOu may depend on il McCOOle can't
hit hard enough to put baby to
sleep. You wait and see us fight to-
morrow, aud then you'll believe what
| say.
Reporter-N1us eesrqHs.
Allen-NO, | am not wrong. lie
evidently did not understand what
said). / tell you he cannot fight
never could highland never will
fight. III knock the stufiing out of
him in ten minutes. Besides, he's'a
coward. No game man viii ever call
foul while fighting. His seconds will
,ee to that.
Raparter-Then you think you will
be able 10 get away with McCOole
very easily, d0a't YOU?
Allen-Ihe last light was the easiest
lob ever had in my life. | tell you
IN lick the big duffer, if it takes five
hours TO do it. He's the worst fight
ing man ever saw.
Allen GOV got up, and PHtting a
scarf around MS neck, then put on :.
monkey jacket, cloth cap, AID pair
of dOg-skin gloves, lined with Wool
and saying that he was going 10
take a bit OF a walk" marched out of
the house, and as he walked along the
porrE he said TO the reporter, "1Il
lick the big dgffer sure, barring an ac-
cident.o
The interyieW being oyer, we re-
entered the coach and we're taken to
the quarters Of Mike MccoOle, which I
were al Shady Grove, the place where
Aaron Jones took his breathings pre-
paratory to his fight with McCOole.
When we reached there Big Mike -
URs out on his mornings walk. AT
ter waiting some time the giant made
his appearance, and as he stalked Into
the house we bade him gOOd-day. 4
Taking US by the hand cordially he I
said: " am quite wet after my walk. .
Wait bit and I'll be down TO see
yGu" IBabOut half an hour he came
down and Ee bad little eonyepsa-
ton with him, but not on the coming
H. lAln AZ lie " QttttA tt0NN aAAfttG ~ H.
further than he said he never was iI 7
such fine condition for pFOtracted /.
fight as he Is ~ the present time. He
neger mentioned Aliens name during
the eORVersation. He said he thought
the fight would enme off in Kentucky, f.
but that matter lay entisely with Mr.. I.
LO0ney, 10 whom he hal enuEsted /
all the preliminaries. sz-----4s..
McCOOle does not look in such fine, I,
fresh, hard health as Allen. HeloOks /
much older thsE when he fought
Jones, and Lbs hesd is tl,FniRg gray.
He Will weigh about 900 pOdhds, /,
while Allen will not he above 10
poun,l4. McCOole looks much the
larger man, beth In strength and
= NFOonE's oPINroN. n
From the Special Dispatch TO the Clncih- !
Apati Gazette.
ST. LOUIS, NO., November IL
Mike McCOOle, Jack LOoney, Jerry
Donovan, Tom. Kelly, James Haley, I
Dan Ryan ana Sherman Thurston 4
arrived to-day. They are a grum set /
and out Of humor. McCooie makes
the i0liOWing statement:
4" have been badly treated by the I
Cincinnati papers and the Cincinnati I
people. / never saw Mr.. lien while /
| was in Cincinnati, and vet one Of I
their papers says that he came to me Z
and offered tD fight me for ten dollars. Z
/ want II agbt Allen, bat / do not |
fight him for honqF, for there is no I
honor about it. In fact, there Is no I
honor ia prize fighting at all; but If
Allen Will fight me, I will 60 with F.
him and six men, in carriage to /
wherever he says, and fight ioi the /
stakes, and viii put up Ave hundred
dollars more. You may say so in |
print, and ] VIII stand up to il. This Z
training has eOct Ele great deal of
time and money, and / think ] am Z
able 20 inset. Allen and whip hip, bat 4
had no show ia Cincinnati. / want
to make money, and If Allen will I
fight for the stakes, ] am ready 70 I
meet him and make them larger. ]
viii fight him in the presence Of O few |
spectators for the money, and 70 show l
Which is the best man.
Jack L0Onsy talks freely, and says
he found that eYefs7s roper and every
skinner In Cincinnati Wanted hand |
Ia the excursion money. He offered I!
to pick geptleman named Dunn, a I
man Of Cincinnati, worth 500, ,O0J, for [
stakeholder, and also several other |
y ealthy CineinnatiaEs, but they
would not be received. Ha also /
offered that Mr.. ThOrWegan, who was /
OF the Allen side, and interested in
the fight, should pick out a ST. Louis (
man for stakeholder, aud be offered /
so. 900 security that be would not be
sued. The rOpers, he said, had $500 ia I
the stake, and wanted the handling
OF the money. They wanted to 60. ga
the battle-ground, where 1t was fixed
that there would be one hundred pro-
fessional thieves who would gaTrOte
the referee and take the money out Of
his hands. lie would nOtagree TO the
terms, because, if ne did, gOssd baeBers
here would be jeOpardized. lie says
that two regular thieves were tele-
graphed for 10 second Allen He
thinks, from the crowd he saw, that
Allen himself, just as well as McCooie,
would have been robbed of his money
hf d he won the fghf. Heidi not like
the looks Of things in Cincinnati, and
was OF the opinion that, while the
roughs patronized Allen, they did not
care for either, 50 they made money,
and 1.-THE tight came Off under the cir
cumstances it would have been q
scramble for the stakes, Irrespective of
who was the better man.
The men who sell lager beer In
Massachusetts have not been victims