The New York herald., 1869-08-03

| system lies to-day as in the times OF Cromwell, a
jealousy, suspicion and hatred between the widely
separated classes OF society tht Is fraught with
danger to the peace OF the country. 1t Is true the
declaration OF an excited peer tina In certain events
lay his head upon the block called forth derisive
laughter ana cheers; but NE remark nevertheless
they viii be called upon to choose moose
deporaole fate. The sudden stOppsge OF the debate
by Lord Granville with declaration that he could
not allow Il to proceed further unti after he had
enjoyed an opportunity OF consulting with his col.
leagues in the Ministry only added to the excitement
OF the scene ior u was iet tLat the crisis had then
the Lords and Commons must now be made and
SUBMITTED soa 20 tne JUDGMENT Of the country 1t was
late as e was S,'er rb sne blouse Of Lords adourued
and during this interval the real Feelings feelings
always pruden. What nex sGqa ans Wss tas
general inquiry. and this was answered in no very
to nave the talk pretty much TO themselves the bulk
o. me ministerial supporters having followed Mr..
PACK 70 tne House OF Commons, where he
was received with deafening ana defiant cheers
one noble earl was heard to declare In violent
mar manner that he was prepared for the worst and
sopv!ct!ons COZ q right az the bidding q radl
r9m0red TO have been emphatic In his denunciatlon
OF o. what ne WAS pleased to regard as the demaxogu-
hope that the QUEEN might rather dismiss The minis
ters with ali their majority az their bucks than con-
sent TO the creation OF new batch OF peers to
come the obstinate opposition OF the Lords.
The Cabinet council. which followed the scenes OF
Tuesday night, renamed In session for many hours
were widely apart in their views as to the
most desirable policy TO be pursued. Enough
is known OF their deliberations to render It
cerlain tnat the extreme measure OF the
immediate withdrawal of the bill was advocated
by some OF the most prominent members OF the Gao
met to be followed by the speedy closing Of the pres
ent session, the calling OF an autumn session, the
rapid passage OF the bill through the Commons, Its
return 70 the Lords IN It's original shape. and the
nnal creation OF batch OF new peers sufficient 20
turn the majority to the ministerial side should the
upper house persist In Its obstinate resistance to the
BY Lord Clarendon, Earl Granville and others, VINO
deplored the political excitement 1t would entail
the country aSs TSsy sas the cOnn
fears Of me Lords would dictate a n prudence nee
rejected BY the Commons. This policy Is understood
TO nave prevailed, and tonight the result viii be
made known. But nothing is more certain than an
eventual rupture between the Two houses, anu no
temporary patching up OF q single measure can
avert 1t. Even in 30 unlikely an event as the pas
sage OF the Irish Church bill this session by some
sort OF compromise, The conflict must upon the
next measure OF reform 10 be brought forward by
the present Ministry, which will touch the tender
point OF the Irish land question. But the probability
Is that 1t will not be 80 long delayed. AS London
journal says to-day, the motive power ofhe LORDS has
ever been "hatred Of reform, tempered by fear Of
revolution" and in all measures OF progress
hitherto, II compelled to give way, they have only
done so after SO Gripping the limbs of reform to
render its steps uncertain and slow. Messrs Glad
stone and Bright know that they have all to gain |
and nothing to lose in the contest the Lords have
avert that contest by yielding to any disagreement
OF their present work. They are wiling to give the |
peers rope enough" but 1t Is only in curiosity to
ascertain the answer to the pertinent inquiry of Mr..
Bright's organ-What will they do with il The
debate tonight VIII snow whether they are prepared
10 turn 1t TO the use which many persons believe
would be the most beneficial the country,