The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-07-24

The Irish Church Dill agitation plus Ialr 10 DC re-
newei with increased vigor in the event. now re-
Carded as most probable. OF its ultimate defeat
through the failure OF the two houses TO agree. The
responsibility for this nulcation OF the work OF
tue session will OF course, be upon the Lords, and
the most prominent and active OF the progressive
party have already resolved that the agitation snail
not reach the Iris Church alone but shall be felt
also By that 'not very wise" body which sometimes
"benpiits the people even by its wsdom.n A let
ter mas 0een privately addressed To known friends
Of reform asking taeir cooperation ia movement
directed towards radical cure OF that inconsrulty
Ia the constitution winch admits OF "a majority Oh
100 one House OF Parliament for glveA pohcy
and majority VI 100 ~ another house AGAINST H.
IL is stated that hessrs maidstone ana brignI
have consented to policy Of holding mass meetings
III the event OF the passage o the Dill by the luru5
to-nighr In its muiilated form, the ground tbas
the Expression Of public opinion at this stage of ,e
CONFLICT Is Justified Dy the statement Oh the Peers
that their action 10 based upon AN alleged change IN
popular sentiment as TO the policy OF disendoWment-
I'VE may Therefore anticipate some warm TIMES In
the city OF London, where open AR meetings always
partiAe OF a threatening character There are may,
however who yet look to a patching 9o OF the
dinereuces between the Loros ana the Commons,
aud WHO believe the Peers are at ali events 100
wise 70 refuse TO eat eehs when 50 unpleasant an
alternative that onered by John Bright ID ore
scented 10 them Nor Is 1t ut an Improbable that the
OH may go through TINS session aitef HI Win suen
trhiug COMPROMISES on the parton Tue government
as tne postponenens Oh aae ua'e ,no s us.
sLtution oil lump sum D sootoSo IN
leu OF all cnd0wnents and don ltions ani inc
calculation oil lie Interests at fourteen years pur-
chase ON all other points tue opposition OF ,iie
| commons viii oe most emphatic ana oastoAen ahd
the LORDS VIII rot escape unscathel fon .he ogueai
lhey have ccurted. 10 is reported, however, Iiiat
there have been some dissensions Ia Tue SADlnet
IN regard to the amendments or usneuratlons oi
we upper House. and a sialp aud severe passage al
arms Is SAID 10 have occurred between Gladstone
aai Earl Granville. The latter. IT. v III % reIein-
Tered made tender in the Lords ON the part oI mo
government. OF 100000 rs compromise IN lieu or
private Oequess TO the irish Churcn, leaving TIE
royal grants OF sieoes STU an open question. ~ APP
Cabinet meeting as COMPENSATION Tor AL du-
nations, grants and requests OF every Kind,
and was NANNY contemplated as means
vi getting rid OF any debate Or controversy
on tle SUBJECT OF the Ulster globes, but Gladstone
held that Earl Granville had no authority 10 maze
che oiier at all, much less 20 make 1t IN the way ae
did leaving the Ulster globes out oil the question:.
some warm words are said to nave passed al t'ie
Councn Board, aad spirit OF nl1uy was mani
tested by three oil the Ministers, but the posi-
tive strength ana personal vim OF Gladstone aud
Bright speedily brought the mutinous members to
seuse OF their duty. In all this irish Churcn business
the policy OF the opposition has had the e.lecI 10
nrnr Giadseone ana Bright into closer bonds OF
union, and 10 strengthen what was at one time
very uncertain combination. There ls Eo doubt that
Gladstone, only lew months SINCE DOUBTED the sta
biLity OF his administration auu Was ulslos 10
abandon It's most radical elements and to seek
UNION with Lord Stanley aud the more liberal con-
Inc Io extremes If lie should BE- iound here
after III the foremost ranks OF the radical re-
formers II the STURDY blows which are sooh 10 orIng
down the irish Church should ere long w heard
laundering at the doors OF the En-. llsR establish
menr, Oh the House of, Lords ITSELF the conserva-
tves Will only have their own overDearng lnsOehce
and infatuated folly TO blame.
The discussion Of American affairs promised by
the questions noticed by Sir Henry Bulwer was last
ment The American people will no doubt be sur
prised to ind that Mr. Gladstone signlled ia his re.
marks in the House OF Commons that the American
government deprecated any discussion OF the Ala
bama question until the temper both Of the English
and Americans should have had time 10 cool down.
However courteous and conciliatory the present
polished American Minister may have been IN the
arstocratic circles OF winch lie ID so distinguished
an ornament his instructions can scarcely have
warranted any such Illuminating admission on be-
half OF his government. II the possaon taken
they can scarcely fear any discussion that
may take place here or elsewhere or, on
| suffered grievous wrong Is not usually the
one to shrink from an inquiry into The facts. Yet
Mr. Gladstone either nave had the authority Of
the American representative for his statement or he
must have USED II unwarrantably Is means OF eN-
Treating himself from an awkward position. Gene
| raj Grant should insist upon Knowing from Mr..
Motley whether he has said anything TO justify the
English Minister in the statement that the American
government is afraid OF q discussion OF the Alabama
question. If such should prove to be the fact, 1t
may turn out that the splendid saloons OF the
macy as are the wel-covered dinner tables OF the
more blur ana Joval John Bulls OF Liverpool, Man
chester and London,
Tie United States Government and the Cuban
| Revolution.
| from the London Star, July 49,
But unless we are to REJECT the accounts given In
the very journals which opposed the idea OF Cuban
| expedition from the first, we must come to the con.
I clusion that the United States government has not
10 aes SO Gt
country during the long stre between os3n North
ries Of adventure which nave emnellished
the columns OF some OF our New York contempt
rares, and conne our attention only to wellattest-
ed narratives OF expeditions which 1t ID notorious
have escaped from New YORK. In the first place.
vessel laden with men and munitions OF war was
fitted out few weeks ago under the very eyes OF the
authorities and correspondent OF the Tribune was
instructed TO make a voyage in 1t. His letter. an
nounclng his safe arrival at Nipe Bay, has been
ceIved although not ing more has since been heard OF
him. II he has persisted on some fearful battle Held
his melancholy end will only be another proof Of the
friendly Powers. Then, again, we learn from the
Tribune which Is probably not disposed to deceive
US on this subject. that down to the ION OF June
States, Mexico and the south American republics
| sufficiently comprehensive recruiting field to
satisfy any oppressed people. General Jordan IS said
| TO be commanding small army OF 1000 American
veterans and clothing for other troops con-
5anty arriving. We derive from another public
source the fact that in the latter part OF June two
! soops- of-war escaped from New York and that O
third or fourth expedition mad been interrupted on
the point OF starting IL must, we think, be taken
for granted that some steamers lifted out for the
succor OF the insurgents in Cuba have really
escaped nom American ports wnile Others have
been stopped. IL has. OF course. occurred TO many
Americans that this is close repetition of the
experiences OF the English government during their
| own war. The Alabama got away, but we seized
the rams, 10 say nothing OF rendering shlpbuders
generally afraid to embark IN undertakings which
were certain 10 be attended with more risk than
profit. The parallel Is not lacking in any essential
feature, for the Spanish Consul at New York warned
the authorities that the expedition which after.
wards landed at Nipe was being organized in
dehauce OF the laws. We have no desire to dwell
upon these incidents, still less to utter any nsinua-
ton against the good Iath OF the United States gov
| ernmeut; but we may reasonably hope that the
| Americans see more clearly than they did before
that II Is not always easy In DISTURBED times TO pre-
vent transeresslon OF the laws Of neutrality They
would probably not ike to be caiied upon to pay
| hail the expenses Incurred by Spain the
| suppression OF the Cuban revolt. Yet American
| Intervention has undoubtedly helped to prol0ng
| the insurrectiOn. 1t Is hard to understand
| where the insurgents obtained arms and money
from IN the early stages OF their project, n not from
| the United States. The government has resolutely
| declined TO be led into act OF open hostility to-
wards Spain; but the Lairds OF America have IN ons
or two Instances, Ut least, cOntrived to outwit IL
| This does not exculpate England from any faults fol
which she Cum Justly be held responsible but 1
serves 10 show that the same faults may be com
mied by another nation at the very time 1t Is exact