The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1869-02-12

WI - .be CHAIR 10 the con vention. fCalls
70 order by Mr.. WOOD We Will see Whe-
thor we have any rights here. Whispers
~ onnroval and announcement
The f PRESIDING OFFICER Continuing
- never mind Mr.. BUTLER, but addressing
,be tellers, who were rather slow to obey
orders) : The tcllers will make out the
s,o+emept ns the concurrent resolution d.
| rects. No. .ho
Mr.. BUTLER (determinedly) Does 'he
| CHAIR entertain my resolution =,
The PRESIDING OFFICER (dehantiy,
and az if he felt considerably peatered anu
annoyed) I do not. Laughter
Mr.. BUTLER: Then appeal from the
decision Of the CHAIR. Ut.
does not entertain the appeal. Lhugn ne
and encouragement from the senatorial Si''o
Of the chamber.
Mr.. BUTLER (persistentlyl Does the
CHAIR hold, rs matter of order, mat 'he
Senate can overrule this House? lGrles OF
n Order /" "Order from the senatorial!
side of tho chamber, and encouragement
from the opposite side
Mr., FAhNSWORTH : | rise to question
of order.
Mr.. BUTLER without allowing Mr..
| F.RvswoRTH to 90 any further with his
question of order, and pushing his coat
sleeves ND to his elbows, as if preparing for
an encounter, and determined to hold his
own in it) went on to say: | do not under
stand that the representatives Of the people
can he 80 overruled. Loud shouts of "Or-
der."l raise the question of order, sir,
that the decision of the Senate shall not
overrule the orders and resolutions of this
House and | know that | therein speak
the sentiments of this House turning to
the members around him). DO not. Con-
| ficting declarations of " He does }" :; lie
| does not and increasing confusion ana
excitement.
Now, sir, he continued, addressing the
| PRESIDING OFFICER, who seemed oVcrpow-
cred by the impetuosity of the attack, and
was evidently longing TO be back again in the
quiet, sedate Senate chamber,) shall we
| have this unscemlT scene?
The PRESIDING OFFICER only answer
ed that debate was not in order.
Mr.. BUTLER growing more imnctnous
and less respectfully :: ! am not debating II,
sir. No arbitrary proceedings will be SUI
| fered here.
The PRESIDING OFFICER: IF the gem
tleman is not debating it he will take his
seat. This palpablc hit drew forth laugh
| ter and applause, which seemed 10 rclnsplre
the PRESIDING OFFICER with fresh courage
| to meet and resist the attack.
Mr.. BUTLER: | am not debating. |
appeal from the decision of the CHAIR.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (curtly)
| The appeal is not entertained.
Mr.. BUTLER lin an appealing though
| by no means n tender mood: / appeal
| from that decision.
The PRESIDING OFFICER, deaf to all
such appeals, again directed the tellers to
60 on with the count
Mr.. BUTLER persisted in addressing the
| CHAIR.
Mr.. WOOD Coming to the relief of the
PRESIDING OrFICER) inquired whether there
| was not Sergeant alarms attached to this
| body, and expressed the hope that If there
vas he should exercise his authority.
Mr.. SHANKS, of Indiana, inquired
| whether it was in order to call for the read
| ing of the rules governing the body.
The PRESIDING OFFICER replied that
it was not.
Mr.. INGERSOLL Coming to the aid Of
| Mr.. BrTLER): object to any further pro-
ccedings on the part Of this body until that
| appeal is entertained and action had on it
| by this body.
The PRESIDING OFFICER: The tcllers
| will declare the vote.
Mr.. INGERSOLL: An appeal has been
| taken.
The PRESIDING OFFICER: An appeal
! cannot he taken.
MIR. BUTLER: Mr.. President
The PRESIDING OFFICER: The gentle
man from Massachusetts viii resume his
seat. TGreat confusion and excitement. !
| The gentleman from Massachusetts will
GENE 10 order.
Mr.. BUTLER Clcfantly) nm in order,
sir. Mr.. President, | desire the rcading Of
the Joint rule on the counting Of the votes,
which expressly states that vote which is
| objected to cannot be counted except by the
concurrent vote of both Houses. This House
| has voted that it shall not concur.
Mr. COV0DE (encouragingly) That is
the point.
Mr.. BUTLER: Now, dc not know any
power that the President Of the Senate has
| to overrule the rule and the resolution of
this House.
The PRESIDING OFFICER nersisting
in never minding Mr.. BUTLER) again called
upon the tellers to perform their duty under
| the concurrent resolution.
Mr.. INGERS0LL: | object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER: | cannot
help that. Shouts of laughter.
Mr.. INGERsOLL (heroically): | object
and now the Senate can retire to consider
that objection. [Cries of Order, ORDER
and great excitement.
! Mr.. BENTON (aside): The Senate ia a
very august body, but ii cannot rule here.
Mr.. ELDRIDGE (jocularly) Mr.. Presi-
dent, would it be in order to /" let us have
peace -? Loud laughter
Mr.. BUTLER (who had not, during ali this
turmoil, taken his seat | again insist upon
my appeal from the decision Of the CHAIR.
The PRESIDING OFFICER: The CHAIR
has decided that an appeal cannot be en-
tertained in this joint convention.
| Mr.. BUTLER From that decision | take
an appeal. -
The PRESIDING OFFICER with cool
humor): The CHAIR decides that in the
same way. Shouts Of laughter.
Mr.. VAN HORN, OF Missouri, made a
point of order that after the retiring OF the
Senate on the objection Of the gentleman
from Massachusetts there had been no re-
port made az to the action of both Houses,
and that they could not proceed until a full
| report was made.
SEVERAL MEMBERS That is good point
of order that's right.
The PRESIDING OFFICER mot mind
ing the point of order): The votes have all
been counted, and statement of them
will be made by the tellers, under the con,
current resolution.
| Mr. briggs: | move that the conyen.