New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1869-07-16

THE CHURCH BILL AGAIN IN THE COMMONS
ULTIMATUM OF THE GOVERNMENT.
LONDON Thursday, July Is, ls69-Mdnight.
In the House of Commons this evening, the Irish
Church BILL as amended in the House of Lords,
came ND for consideration There was full attend
ance of members, and the galleries were crowded
with spectators.
Mr. Gladstone on rising, was greeted with loud
cheers by the Liberals, and with derisive shouts
from the Tory benches He said with re-
spect to the amendments which had been
made to the bill. that the Gov
eminent proposed to restore the preamble and
the date of dsestabshment, they appeared in the
original BILL they should agree to the amendments
relating to curate annuites, and to the protection
of annuitants with notifications but all other
amendments they would oppose with the single ex-
ception of the grant of half million pounds in lieu
of private benefactiOns made before 1900
Mr. Disraeli followed. He said that although the
abstract principles of the bill had been repeatedly
discussed there had been little discussion on the de-
tails of its provisions. He hoped that the amend
ments made in the House of Lords would receive
the calm consideration of the Commons.
Mr. Gladstone then moved that the House disagree
to the preamble as amended. He thought the con-
current endowment, which the Lords had IN view, a
very different scheme from that of Mr. Pitt, which
contemplated an established Catholic Church side
by side with the Established Church, and under
State control. Concurrent endowment, as now
understood, was totally opposed to the principles of
the bill. and was of such O character
as to be entirely opposed to the spirit
of the time If the House could be induced to agree
70 it, it was certain that the country, especially the
large constituencies, would never sanction it. He
strongly advocated the appropriation of the surplus
funds as originally proposed, with proyiso reserv-
ing to Parliament control over them.
Mr. Disrael thought the House ought to agree
to the amended preamble. He asserted that the
House of Lords did not desire the reservation OF the
surplus for purposes of concurrent endowment, and
ridiculed the plan for its appropriation He hoped
the House would prevent such a waste of the public
funds and not allow them to be dealt with in this
loose and vague manner.
Mr. Ball, member for Dublin University, thought
the restoration Of the original preamble would be
fatal to the many advantages secured to the Church
by the Lords.
Mr. Bright admitted that at former time he
had proposed something like the present scheme OF
concurrent endowment, but he declared that public
feeling was totally opposed to religious endow-
ments and no Minister ould be able to carry such
a scheme He felt that all the plans save the one
originally proposed by the bill so full of difficult
ties that it would be idle to discuss them.
Sir Rounded Palmer said although not a supporter
of concurrent endowment. he considered that, under
the circumstances the grants for residences TO clergy
of the great majority could not be refused ont OF
that fund which, contrary 10 his ideas they had de-
clared was wrongfuy taken from the great majority
and used for the religious purposes Of the minority.
Unless some proposal Of this kind agreed to they
would never establish religious equality OF satisfy
the expectations of the Irish. They should not al
low their antiCathoc preudices TO refuse this small
boon TO the great majority.
The House then divided. and the amendment Of
the House of Lords with respect to endOwments was
disagreed to by vote of $40 against Do; majority
for the Government 1874
The amendment IN regard to the appropriation OF
She surplus funds also disagreed to, by vote OF
246 against 1914
Mr.. Gladstone then moved the restoration OF the
original date-namely the LIST day of January ISL
for the dissolution of the legislative union between
the Churches of England and Ireland and after some
discussion the date was restored without division
The House then adjourned.
THE RIFLE MATCH.
In the international Rife Match on Wimbledon
Common the rhemen of Scotland were victorious,
beating those of England and Ireland.
THE CUNARD STEAMER.
NEw-YoRK, Wednesday, July 10. 1862
The passengers of the steamship Russia, which ar
rived at Queenstown this evening send the follow
ing dispatch:
QUEENSTOWN July l5.-Tbe Cunard steamship Rus.
sia Capt Lott arrived at Queenstown to-day at ol4
O'Clock D. M She left New-YOrk July 7, at gZ4 O'CLOCK
PASSENGERS OF TIE STEAMSHIP RUSSIA