The New York herald., 1869-03-31

might not be establishing power greater than that
4 OF the established government ITSELF and making
religious influence In public aiairs predominant "
was because we had an established Church that we
enjoved religious protection and toeration; the con-
guarantee for religious freedom and liberation; and
II we wanted TO break up society entirely we could
80 S mEfs o oeo lie did not
mean to that there was no diference between
property al ana prUpe @ ~ relations s as 10
private and TO corporate properly were OF diher,
ent character Tue relations OF the state 20 private
property were the relations OF guardian 10 ward
and the relations OF the state to corporate property
we're those OF a trustee. The duties OF guardian
were merely to protect the interests OF ms ward;
those OF a trustee were OF more complicated char
acter IL was the nrst duty OF the trustee 10 see
that the intentions OF the founder were fulfilled, as
much as the VARYING circumstances OF generations
| would permit; but under no circumstances could
was the iduciary lie condemned the confscation
OF corporate property then first, because whatever
on e az donaon al ~ sacn s propc o was
from It's use and purposes essentially popular prop.
srtythe property o. the nation though not as o. the
no great act OF the kind had ever been carried
| without most injurious consequences TO so.
to civil war or to the establishment OF that
| which was even worse-a chronic disatfection for
there were any corporate property the confscation
| or which he disliked more than any otner II was
an Intellectual tenure and IN very great degree
moral and spiritual tenure. IL was the property OF
| caSleSC
which the sons OF the middle and even OF the work
ing classes could become resident landed propretors;
| and he had invariably observed that when Church
property had been conscated II always went to the
! pr0priet0rs OF the land. Touching then, upon the
Of Irish dlscontent which was said TO render
| described them as being like Martials epigrams
some true and some false, and some partly true and
partly false. No one denied that discomfort existed
and that among its was the TACT that power
full clergy exercising its influence over numerous
| congregations had no connection with the State.
the country by having three churches not In con-
measure Of itself was not sufficient 10 terminate
| irish discomfort.
There were other measures OF equal or greater i'm
p0rtance that were already canvas5ed Ia political
| circles. IL had been acknowledged, even by the
Prime Minister himself that the question OF the land
was OF the greatest Importance and he believed the
right honorable gentleman had pledged himself to
take It in hand. SO that when the present measure
pared to encounter Irish discomfort. For what would
De the acto Of the three free Churches on the land
saiion Of all dogmatic differences between Them
though he hoped that asperitieS arising from that
source might be softened; but he yentured d. 70 say
| would thoroughly agree, and which would be as
unanimously adopted as any thar could be sane
| TONED by the impenoing Ecumenca Councils that
| was that the clergy OF the three Churches,
whether dssndowed IN the reign Of Queen Elizabeth
| or queen Victoria, would feel that they were
equally Ill treated; and he had no doubt that the
| general dscontent OF the country would find elo-
| quent, organized and learned exponents OF its
wrongs without any reference whatever 10 the dier
| ences OF religious creed. such was the prospect
which disestablisbinent offered OF rendering peo
| pie contented aud a government strong Dlsestab-
iishlnent onering prospect oi so ambiguous and
| nnpromlsing character, now was IT intended to act
in the matter OF dsendowmentS 1t was proposed TO
deprive the Church In Ireland OF Its property and
natural inquiry was. why did the minister propose
TO do soi IL was not because he believed that any
other Church would use the property to greater ad
vantage, for he did not propose to do Nor was it
Church was either unsatisfactory or feeble for it
was quite the reverse What, tnen was the reason?
tn the feelings Of The Roman Catholic Church
| In Ireland were opposed to the Protestant Church
| holding endowments The Roman Catholic Church
| wished 10 depend only on voluntary contributions,
| and because the Protestant CaaTch was endowed
that was tine reason why the Protestant Church was
said to be comparative failure surely that was
the most extraordinary reason ever yet adduced by
aminister Tor committing great act Of confisca-
ton. IL Was an entirely new principe TO take away
the property OF one corporation, simply because
another body which did not aim at possessing 1t,
aud to which IL was not offered was Jealous OF the
corporation which had thas advantage. 1t was not
only prlncpie--lt was also principle that
might be applied all kinds of property both cor
porate ami private In snort, IL vas principle OF
forfeiture without pgetext that was worthy only the
darkest ages. And Il II were adopted for Ireland,
-Four Oilers were made by the measure 10 induce
he IRISH enurcn to concur In this act of con1sca.
on-frst, that the vested interests OF every indi-
vidual should be respected, which really went for
nothing. Tor there was no combination Of crcum-
stances upon which any human being could propose
the coniiscation OF corporate propert, without
companyng il with security ior vested interests.
III churches upon an undertaking to Keep them IN
gool repair. BY THIS policy tile Premier might find
| hun elf one fne morning with 1900 churches 10
maintain, aad. as prudent man, he would be glad
10 ind any persons ready TO tAe certain number OF
them OIL his hands. lie dii not think, therefore.
that an oaer OF taese churches would act an IN
ducement OF Paramount Character In the transac-
tion Nor was IL more likely that the next oner
would be so-namely, that the Clergy Of the IRISH
Church should retain the glebe houses provided tney
discharged debtupoa them so great that the houses
| had become nnnarkelabe. The last oner was per-
capitalize them. IL was estimated that TO effect this
| operation would require not less than f6,oOoooo;
| and many persons were under the impresso that
\ the Irish CAurcn would be lett win an endowment
| to that amount. This, however was one VI the
greatest deeeptl0ns or Qelusiors In the word. For
MS pant he dill not see thai 1t was for tue ADVANTAGE
OF incumDents TO capitalize their interests by ex-
changing them Tor a security OF less value; for II
| their vested interests were capitalized no peFml-
nent endowment could accrue from tbe operation.
These Offers then, beng all futile did the
Ia which the Roman Catholic College OF Maynooth
was 10 be dealt with form an inducement to the
lrtsb Church TO cooperate in confscatlon? lie
referred 10 this par icuiar part OF the measure be-
cause it dia not seem TO neie out equal justice.
la this case they applied that principle to vested
Interests which under no prctence whatever could
be estimated at fourteen or even seven years. pur-
Chase. They applied to ali the students OF that isti-
tuition the same principle which they We're applying
to tile vested Interests OF the Protestant Ihurcl aud
that, he argued, was not just The position OF
dent at Maynooth was not IN any degree analogous
to that Of an incumbent OF the Churc!i Further if
he understood the declaration made onthe hus.lngs
in Iancasllre it was not intenocd tnat any OF ma
property should be given to the ministers Of any
other religion or applied 70 imperial purposa Is. Tnat
declaration was Irequently reiterated and on "
there was no doubt tile vote Of the country was
taken But the pledge had not been redeemed by
tue measure on the table, although its preamble cx-
phtiily set fortl that the property OF the Church
should be applied to the advantage Of the Irisn
people, bat mol to the maintenance or any Church
1 or ergy or ang other ministry, nor for the
| teaching Of religion. one would have supposed
| That the arrangement had been made alter
the III was drawn. and tha by some inalvertencs.
for nVhody ever took notice OF preamble, the old
! preamble remained. la ten years time tne Irish
i Church Hould be without shilling While they
| would see fchly eldowel Roman Catholic clergy
and very comfortably endowed Fresoy serlan body.
And TINS would be an obvious injustice. AZ to the
application OF the surplus, II was q ear that the
whole bulk OF n would go TO the proprctors VI the
| soil. aud OF That he utterly disapproyed.
one OF the Of Ireland said 10 be the want
OF a resident pr0pnetOry; and here was legislation
that would sweep away great number of pro rietoys
Another of the ireland was its poverty ana
| here act Of wholesale coahscalion Of pro-