New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1869-11-22

him did not suppose was dealing with the Erie Rail-
road at all; had nothing TO do with the Erie Railroad
O. Was anything ever done in respect 70 that agree
ment afteri A. No. never heard Of it-only suppose
O. DO you not know or believe that 81 10000 came
from the Erie Railway Companyi A. No. LIDO NOT.
came from theref A No. do not; at the time took
that certified cheek for 100000 never looked stts
It certified; but then might have been little re'
miss.
O. Who gave you that checki A. Mr.. Gould, think
O. When did Mr. Gould frst intervene In this transact
ton? A. Well now, declare cant tel YOU Mr FED.
Drew Of this amount OF stock and whether he came 70
not positive; but said would any else had
a mind 70, except the Erie hallway Company, for wsa
o. LOOK at these two checks and tell whether you
have not mistaken the transaction altogetner
there not two checks aud neither certlned A rs
they were given to Inc. thought there was but one
A Won confident there was but one check and that
was certified A. Well, thought and think so sL
O. Look at that check aud tell me whether was ever
given TO yOu and IL for whatf lAuOther check was
here handed to the witness A do not remember any
O. Viii You look at this check again and say whether
that did pass through your handsf A. have not tho
slightest recollection Of that cheekin the World,
O. Has IL your indorsementf A Ihat looks very
@ To the best OF your recollection and belief is ti
A. Wen, am not going TO swear anything ABOUT my
name; there is TO correct this II DO correct nv
bank book will tell IL. -.
think that was my signature. but Will not swear posye
y about it recoeet q check of that slnd cams
never detect it except from my bank book -.
Q. Do you believe this TO be q forgeryf A. cannes
Question repeated A. As long there Il way for
prove this positively within my reach nave gss
that amount Of money deposited In the bank my Da6
book Will tellIt II otherwise 1t forgery; II tha' sE
nature were to come qp any where outside OF sucn -
cation this should think IL smine; ain not going "
O. viii you not swear you believe it to be yOursi A.
naun aaE AM
O. DO You know the signature Of Work. Davis & Boz
den A. So, am the poorest Judge Ia the world Oh s
o. Look at that check, and say whether It went 70
WORK. Davis ~ borden your DtOkers s a. m9i Yes
Thousand times and would not swear to 10 any Day
In business transactoni A. Wei. MT know; would
take any SIGNATURE they Teqd eve me- :boud. do no,
examine ali these things closely. -.. ...
MIR Field here read check No. 49, dated New York.
July H. 1883 and bearing the name Of the hanbaltas
Sompany, with the Erie Railroad Company printed in
the margin and directing the pay nent OF sooo 10 tne
order Of Jay Could Treasurer and inoorsed " WANDER
o. Say whether that refreshes your memory so as 70
enable you 70 say the check given 10 you
and by You sent TO your brokers' Work DAVIS Boreu
for deposit on your accounts A have no recoHecoa
Have you any information or belief the subject
| A. No. unless you let me refer To my bank DOCK 4,
O. Surprising the check to be genuine, ana yoar u.
dorsement not forgery. you explain III WIN you
tell me for what parpose and upon wa. ,
| received il at all my books will tell me.
% Look AZ the check aud tell me whether IL 10 cert
Te ea o, a. bs GOa. c seG Ser or not
90 Please to look at another check which show
O. And say whether that check has been in your
| hands A. can't tell you, SIR. 80. ,
answer that the same the other to save you time
O. Is that check certifedf A. Well L doTt Know
| whether you call that a certitcdtion or not. .
O. Il this certified IN the way the million dollar cheek
| you spoke OF was certified A. think that check wa
certified crOsswise: this appears " Do IN mat way
| Mr. Eield read Check.l
Wituess-The same as thu other; 1t might have been
possible there were two checks instead o one Out my
O. Will you say whether these two check. are NOT Ihe
checks for the 100000 which you received A. NO, or
won't say that; by reference 10 my book, u tels
that there amounts which accord WIN thetn IN
stead Of one will say So but my Impression Is sVh
O. VIII yOu look at the check now shown you, and
which will re.d-fMr Field read the chcc< dated New
YORK Iuly "a 1853 on the Continental National aux for
g. 500 O0Ol-e whether that's certified check While
was paid TO Work Davis & Borden for yonr dccOuntt
Inever saw the check before don't know anything
o. Look at that paper now shown you and whetbe,
1t is In your handwrtngi A Yes, soud tLInk IL WA
INF Field here read the paper as follows"I send
stock TO be delivered TO Mr.. Jay Gould on his payIeR
Y York; SRe July H. f.1 SSs G. v YanderSi ~
| Witness-I should think that was paper sent u
Work. DAYS q Borden as their authority Tor CLOSING
Q. At Mr.. Gould's interview with YOU was anybOd,
| presents A. l don't recollect.
O. Did he have more than one interview A. I dom
recUllect.
| O. Where was IT, and whenf A. don't know.
Various other questions asked Witnrts but moth
ing materially different from the above elected.
recess taken until p M, az which hour the eHami
nation was resumed, and Mr.. Vanderbilt stated that Ia
mistaken about one check There were s"O ehrtks
and the checks produced the tWO In question
He said he still owned portion OF the Boston, hdruOid
aud Erie bonds; how much he did not Know but M
Judged that he owned 100000 WORTH TEs GUIDED ia.
examination. IL was arranged that Mr. Vanderbilt should
sign the examination after has been written out 10y the
senOgrapheI and that he SHOULD then swear 10 Oeore
the Judge who took the testimony.
| Messrs. ID. ID. & ID. Field for the Erie Company and
Messrs Charles A. Rapallo Horace r. Clark, and Wm A
| Beach Of Troy, for Mr.. Vanderbilt.