The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-11-01
NORTH CAROLINA.

4tziIslf. ssLccs OF the Governors EEOciuEtl.
tion--supposed Field of Operati0ns--tjon-
deniaasgGn al the GOveraar's C0nsse--Entcr-
view wits Governor iiohicn~-E.saf He Says
% sne EsonbIes--9,ae Walker Movement la
Virginia.
RALEIGH, Oct. %, 1859.
For the past wv DAYS the utmost excitement has
been occsioned throughout the state because Of the
organization OF the militia under the proclamation
OF Governor Holden declaring four counties TO be in
lawless condition, requiring military force 10 sup
press violence and restore civ authority As stated
in previous letter 70 the HERALD, there Is o war
between two secret political organizations against
one OF which the Governors wrath seems
TO be entirely directed-the Ku XIX Khan.
While the negro members of the League are
mainly responsible for all the outrages and while IL
was 10 resist aud punish their depredatons upon
the property and persons OF The whites, that the
other organization was called into existence, yet
the former are altogether ignored by the Governor,
aud the latter are the subjects Of his proposed ven
geance. In every instance where 1t was possible
the members OF the leagues We're shielded from JUS
tice when arrested ana tried for the most CRIMINAL
offences by their brother members, who now I'll
every position OF civil authority, from constable to
judge, IN the state. 1t was consequently impossible
to repress crime in many communities where the
existing officials seemed almost to justify 1t; and in
which not only disposed summary OF Offenders,
but committed, in retaliation, acts of a nenious
and earbarous nature. Crime Ia this way became
rampant, and neither the lives nor property Of peace
ably disposed citizens were safe, the civil
authorities capable OF anording them any protection.
Al such a time the Governor Isl ues proclamation
winch refers 10 nearly all the outrages from their
very nature supposed TO be committed by the Ku
kluX, anu indirectly holds them responsible for ali,
without once mahins the Slightest ausion to the
Leagues oi which he Is president in tue State, and
WhlcI 10 an intents ana purposes have by Violence
ana outrage led TO the present unfortunate state OF
uIlals
one White company OF militia has been organ
iZed, composed altogether of radical men,
uels OF Inc Leagues. Several hundred negroes
have been enrolled, and arms are reported to
have been secretly shipped to various desti-
nations where 1t is supposed the militia Will be
sent 10 operate. II was rumored this morning thar
1000 men would be raised armed and drilled as d
specal militia TO enforce the law or otherwise TO aiu
the leaguers and make war upon the whites Of the
STATE. in Orange ana Chatham and Lenolr and
Jones counties lawessness has prevailed 10 lear
Iui extent, but me presence OF negro mliltia
Will only tend to invite violence, without accomplish
ing any beneficial result. These are the counties
threatened with invasion, ana The militia VIII oper
ate entirely against tie whites, WHO in such case
VIII arm 10 resist both them and the Leagues.
deporaOie slate Of affairs VIII follow If the pro-
eraItme Is carried out az determined upon and The
blood Of innocent people VIII inevitably be she'd
The responsibility OF all this viii rest upon Governor
ioilen, WAC, Dy wiser and more JuQicous course,
could produce tranquility restore peace and enforce
The law against all who are found to be guilty an
iniracuon OF 1t.
me tnongntul and sensible men Of all parties
condemn the action OF the Governor, ana many can
see no unusual cause Tor the entire movement,
whch some say Is mere buster, ostenslbly
tfighten the ku klnX. The oplaion OF all Is, now
ever, tnat II the Governor persists IN armlng tue
militia tue result VIII be serious beyond conception,
and al good men aeprecae such an extreme measure
Puollc Ieeng Is much excited over the matter, ana
the best friends OF the Governor have advised him To
desist, which course some think he VIII be prudent
enough 20 adopt, ere the good OLD Moth state be-
comes the Held OF civil Instruction.
AN INTERVIEW WIN GOVERNOR HOLDEN.
In connection with tue above give a portion OF
inc interview OF prominent gentleman o. tuls stale,
who visited tie Governor upoa this subject now oil
such vital import TO the people at large The visitor
was cordially received by HIS EXceency, VINO hand
ca him iine cigar, supposed TO be Havana, ana
aiter exchanging some commonplace remarks the
GovERNoR--Wnat Go you think Of my proclama.
tioaY
NIsIroR-Well. Governor, to be candid with You. !
think II - rather One-slded. ii would have been bet
ter appreciated, IN abiding to the recent ourages
had you mentioned those That have been oommtiea
W the negroes. tank yoa ought 10 have warned
Dolh allke, the LeaSneIs as well as the Ku KluX.
G0vEBAOR-Weli, rather regret did not mention
all the offences Ui both sides. The barn burninxs in
your county orange were outrages OF most crlmi-
MAJ nasure. an preparing all address, however,
DC published IN lew days IN which shall be entirely
impartial. ! shall. deal alike towards both, and
endeayor to remedy the deects OF the proclamation
rs lar az The leagues are concerned th5y are rapidly
failing into dlsise. ana Will break up tbenlseiyes
soon If hot kept alive by political excitement. Ii
tho leading men or tile democracy would but meet
me nan way upon the ground OF reconciliation and
peace, Without making any overture OF a political
CHARACTER am SATISFIED we sAouId have peace Il
very short Time.
NisiTog-who DO you consider the leaders OF the
democracy III his state governmentY
GOvEIsNoR--I consider Governor Graham, Judge
Manly Judge Horton aud other leaders and | De
lleye taat II either OF these gentlemen were to
come out IN an address counselling submission TO
the law, appealing 60 The people against an lnirac
tlon Of Il, ana advising a return TO their lawful
avocats9us, Lnnk such an aqeress would ee q yasl
yIslroR.naw 'S:5aid the State be teleied J.;
govERsoR--No one doubts the influence OF any OF
the gentlemen named and tuat influence IL exerted,
would speedily restore peace. Tue present. condition
OF affairs s most damaging 20 the material interest
aud prosperity OF the state. Ia the recent campaign
in pennsylvania the republican party had 5000
pamphlets printed, which gave an account OF the
ku llux outrages IN North Carolina and these were
scattered ali over thai STATE 70 show the ltempered
condition vi the people and the insecurity oil lie
AMI property among us.
VISITOR" hal 40 you think OF the Walker move
ulent IN Nirginldf
G0vERkoR--I am greatly pleased with the success
Of real reconstruction IN tnat state and would be
exceedingly grati1ed ii this state were a. thoroughly
.vIsToR-Dou you think virginia viii be admitted
without the exacuon Of the Lest oath nom members
VI the Legislafuref
6oyERNoR-Yes, certainly, THINK she win. That
Il, mean ! do not think the test oath should be
e%aeed, II had oeen there ! would nay, nave voted
feature, ana | think 1t should be modified, If MOI
abolished altogether.
NislTOK-Nnat is your opinion OF universal sul-
fragef
GoyERNoR-f am clearly 10 favor OF universal SUI
frage-suiirage Tor ali or n0ne | would not be
surprised, though, If In ten or twenty years the
Whole thing should be made ridiculous and he broken
up BY female suffrage.
NisHoa-How DO you regard the present con-
dtion " the Un.On--tbe relations Of the executive
aad legislative departments OF the government
bobbAN0R--I ala OF opinion That an internal strife
= inevitable II may not occur IN my lie tlue but
u may come III yours, ana II 1t does II Will result
ttohi tae ueneh'ns and encroachmeats OF Congress
upon Tue executive functions. Men hate to yie.d to
power, particularly IN republic ana the
conflict VIII inevitably come. Grant - now
powerless. All the appointments now made
are by authority or Congress. My only ambition IL
70 MI inc trust VI the high position In whca nave
been placed. know what labor IL and know what
" Is TO be poor. ] think OF the laDoring man ami
olteD wish that sbch men could be elevated to po-
sltloA more frequently than they are Instead OF the
young aud Idle struts who never did a hard days
work ana never knew what IL was 10 be poor
Inc Governor then spoke on other matters chiefly
relating TO the state and his former political career