The New York herald., 1869-10-21
PERE HYACINTHE-
Movements of the Great Carmelite Monk
Yesterday.--He is Photographed
Interview of Canadian Priest
With the Pere---Sectarian
Views of the Monks
Position.


Of black and held in his hand the "BreyIary,"
which seems to be his rade wherever he
goes, The Boston delegation did not call upon him
during the dag, probably being aware OF his alb
sence from the hotel.
After having been shown the proof or the photo
graph, with which he expressed hinself satisfied,
he proceeded to Brooklyn, where he remained with
a gentleman whom ne had formerly known IN Paris,
and returned to the hotel at four O'Clock.
Several cards were on his table, but he did not
degn to answer any one OF them until his eye had
rested small slip OF crumpled paper on which a
name hastily scrawed. He picked II up and,
on reading the superscripton, ordered the gentle.
man who mad sent 1t up be shown to his r0oin at
once.
Who this honored individual was the good Father
refused to make known, but it ascertGined that
he was priest who had come all the way from Nom
treal expressly to see Father Hyaclnthe.
He remained coseted In the room with the monk
for over an hour, but although many stories were
anoat in the hotel as what the object OF his visit
was, nothing definite was learned on the subject.
Some affected to believe that the visitor came to tell
the Carmeite that the French priests in Canada ap-
proved OF his course and would stand by him, while
others as stoutly asserted that he must have come
exhorter to deter Father Hyacinthe from The
way he had laid down for his iuture conduct and
action.
In the afternoon one of the Boston delegation had
u
hours, What was really said at tue meeting oi the
clergymen is mystery, although Father Hyacntbc,
iect OF ts details gave his friends 10 understand
that he declined all invitations OF public reception
lie paid visit to Mr.. Darling, one OF the proprie
tors OF the Fifth Avenue Hotel. at his residence In
Twenty-tnird street, In the evening, ana retired
about ten O'Clock.
TIE INDIFFERENCE OF THE CATHOLICS WITH
REGARD T6 THE PERE
The utter indifference Of the Catholics TO the
the most remarkable features OF his visit IL mas
become quite subject of remark among the guests
and the hundreds who make II point to drop into
the vestibule OF the hotel every evening with the
hope OF catching glimpse OF the Distinguished
intelligence OF his departure FOR THIS coun-
uy was announced that his arrival here
them; nut far there has been visible
sign that they care pins point about hun or his
movements one way OF the other. Even the priests,
VINO, people believed, would give their congrega-
tions piece Of their mind on the subject OF tne
stranger at some one Of the daily morning services
have, with one or two exceptions. manifested no
IN the matter, and are apparently as indn-
ferent Father Hyacinthe's ''postlon'' as though
there were no such person in existence. 1HH@
WHAT A CATHOLIC PRIEST THINKS OF HIN.
One Of the exceptions 10 this general rule. how
ever happens 0 be one OF the best known ana one
of the most eloquent preachers in this cty, and IN
Ses aas over Fstnep G0 ne na saS Ts
~ have been in France and know that an eloquent
preacher there often has his head turned by the
popularity wnlch he wins. lie Is lattered and feteu
eve that he Is the greatest orator that breathed
the breath OF life, and all tnat sort OF thiag. Now,
man, and Is II snrprsing that once IN whue We.
witness the sad spectacle OF good man rising 50
high IN the popular esteem that he becomes dizzy
with his own greatness and falls 10 tue edifn.o
FATHER uYACINTHE SINCERE But VAIN. #
"Do you,n inquired the gentleman to whom these
remarks were addressed, "do you intend to say
that Father Hyacinthe is one OF that class ~ an
IL DO. | honestly believe thai he IS sincere, that
he means well In fact, that he Is good Catholic at
same time that ne does not even dream OF joining
tire rrotestants. But It is my conviction that his
popularity as preacher the universal esteem III
which he was held IN Paris, the attentions and
honois tiat were paid to him proved too much for
what everybody SAID OF him was truc that he was
great; thai he knew much any other reason
able man could know, and was. therefore. good
Judge OF his own acts as anybody else could be. This
being so twas quite consistent FOR MIN TO refuse
do u certain tnlng; for wasn't he Pere ayacinthc,
aud how could Brother Dominick know better tnan
he what was right or what was wrong ?"
WHAT WAS FORBIDDEN DO. fa"
"And allow me here to remark that do not think
that the people IN tins county are wel acquainted
with the real merits OF the difficulty which has
caused Father Hyacinthe 10 give up his monastery.
His superior did not take exceptions 10 his sermons
delivered In the church, but he iorbade him to
preach before political or semi-ponncal poi4cs on
subjects which had more regard TO outside questious
than the subject OF religion ITSELF Do you retneni-
Der the outcry that some or the New York papers
made against certain clergymen III this city who
made It a practice during the war 70
Wen, supposng a Catholic priest here to-day
should talk poltics' daring his sermon, ana his
bishop should tell MIN 70 contine himself 10 his
legitimate sphere and ne should refuse 10 obey.
what them Would he not have broken his VOWS OF
obedience to his lawfully constituted superior, and
wouldn't every good Catholic appard the bishop
for melting out severe senten &C TO the guilty ones
The question OF dlsobedicnce s the one which IS TO
be considered IN Father iiyacinthe's case ard not
whether he regards the spirit Of the nineteenth
tury in q different light from MS colleagues"
he WILL NOT BE ExcoNMuSlcAFED foR WHAT HE
..Do you not think his inyeighng against the
expected action of the Ecumenica Councii in regard
10 certain matters will be looked upon as an act
deserving eXcommun1cationW
81 certainly do not. iou or | or ANYBODY who
chooses can with perfect rropriey discuss the ques
tons winch we believe are to come up before yhe
Council, and find fault with them If we choose; that
does not make Us criminal. We would be SIMPLY ind
ing iault with the Councils deciding certain way
before we know how II Will decide. Dd yon hear
Archbishop MeCloskey's address IN the Cathedral to
his nocN the sunday before he lett lor Europes
What did he say about all the talk OF what the Coun-
Gil was going TO dor he SAID that 1t v as all con
lecture and that even he himself did not know what
II would do. Isn't 1t very FOOLISH therefore, Tor
Father liyaclnthe or anybody else to waste much
breath in condemning something that IS not yeti
eXstencer
NE WILL ne ExcoNMuNIcaTED IF HE OPPOSES ruE
COUNCILS DECISION.
"But, sunposIn ~ RENAL ked the priests infeglO
cutor, supposng Father Hyaclnthe should not AXE
tue decisions OF the Council when they small have
been made valid by due ald regular eanonleal pro-
them g''
I'm that case SIR, ne would deserve eXcomfnunl-
cation, as would any tatnoic wno would presume
To declare not worthy OF belief any article winch
the assembled wisdom aud pety oi tue church
should have declared an article OF lath and just so
sure as Father alacintae does hiis thing ne VIA pe
excommunlcaled.n
wiIlLE THERE'S LIFE THERE'S HOPE
trust, however that ne VIII not be 80 rash ~ to
incur such an awiul penalty. IN DONG hnG nc mas
done he has been very imprudent 70 say tne leJst,
and for HIM to stand against the decisions OF the
Council when made viii be placing himself outside
the pale of the Church entireiy."
1a tutt ar n
the above conversation was held cannot be given,
owing to the fact that he was not aware, wnen ne
engaged IN IT. that the talk" was intended ior pub
lcation. #3f
nspAaTuk 0G CATHOLIC BISHOPS F0a R0his.
BALTIMORE. Oct. 20, 1862
large crowd or persons thronged the wharves of
the steamship company this afternoon to witness