The New York herald., 1869-02-26

Uruguay. in South America At : salary not exceed
K kr. T BUrIss an moved the previous question on the
adoption OF the report, but It was not sustained
Mr. BANKS, (rep) OF Mass. called the attention Of
by the chairman OF the Committee on Foreign Rela-
tlons Of the Senate. by the chairman OF the Com
whom were members OF the conference committee.
1t was not, therefore, unanimous report, u was
question whether the government Of .ne o1,seu mae
tral and South American States The report OF tne
committee proposed to reduce the number Of min
Chile aud Guatemala. the action OF the
COMMITTEES was partial and it strikes at the inter-
II there Is anything this government should do Il is
that we should be fully represented at these Central
and south American. republics. Their interests are are
down some OF our European or Aslatc missions tnan
to cut down them. II IL was asked why this matter
Committee on Foreign Affairs, he would reply that
1t had not been brought before them for con-
the ministers resident from our government
at central America to one, that Ii, at Guatemala.
was q ina. mere @ &c snass Ds Uhe
hcs but there were Others requiring representation
a. much a. Guatemala. In Central America was the
can continents place where all the nations OF
Europe were contending for the transit OF the trade
dollars we propose to withdraw representative
at this important point There are three Ministers
for south America--one at New Grenada, one at
Venezuela and one at ChIle-bestdes those at Brazil
and Paraguay.
Mr.: BUTLER said there were six Ministers for
Mr.. BANKS asked why the committees gave Min
lister to Chile and denied one to PernY The proposes
Commissioners were Officers unknown to the diplO-
matte service. All this change In our diplomatic
intercourse was to be made for the sake OF saving
s4oo goo or So Mr.. Banks argued argued argued st length
manded full representation at the South and Central
American republics, and that 1t was unwlse on the
existing diplomatic relations with those States.
Mr.. BuTLER said this debate had neen forced upon
the aS Of s liz
| MR. Banksl insisted that there should be q
Minister resident a every one q the Little
lie sent to the Clerks desk to be read letter from
Mr.. Squire, the celebrated American traveller, VINO
had himself been Minister at South America for
| some time. That letter would show the need we
had for representatives In that section OF the world.
Mr. Squirrels letter states that he was Minister OF
the fossil period. He thanks Mr.. Butler for having
started e soi aDolsnlng ISM ,aese missions
ministraton, he had nve OF these petty States to
look after, at . salary OF $4,5oo. twas at time
when Europe was intriguing to get possession Of the
| isthmus for the purpose Of transit.
Mr.. BUTLER continued his remarks, saying when
Of the south American republics relative to transit
across the Isthmus we had to send special COM
missioner, who knew enough to speak the M language
negotiate the treatyS Because he did not know
majority Of these Ministers to these republics did not
know anything except how to draw their pay. He
View sens S of unit @ q
| ter to Chile. Even II that we're true, 1t would
! b motive enough. He had, however, in the
SS%|spsy SSi|s u i At bfssen athsasS % the MSsasf
| there might be the enemy OF all mankind The
gSmss sa s @ me mo M ns q ss
| Foreign Affairs Committees Great are these two
committees and their chairmen, in their own esti-
nation. When we are attempting to do what they
ought to have done they come here and say we won't
do it, and we ought not TO do it. The House man
part OF the Senate by adopting this proposition. 1t
cut or the Secretaries OF legation appointed Com
instead Of MI Ministers aha saved @ 70
Affairs mad not examined the bill with their accus-
toned scrutiny. Mr.. Butler then detailed the pro.
| VISIONS OF tine report and explained the bill as
! il would stand II the report was adopted. He
said:-We give SIX full Ministers To- Central
and South America, against mis- viii and wishes. but
| in Difference 70 the WISHES OF other gentlemen. He
| thought 1t was all wrong. He thought 1t was all
re 70 at 70
government BY agreeing TO this proposition. he
continued at length. arguing that Great Britain,
commercial interests at stake IN South America than
| we had were not represented by any diplomatic
Mr. MuNGEN, lden.) OF ONO, said he did not see
any reason why these South American missions
% at Liberia. We could no more speak the negro dia.
lects than we could the Spanish.
/ Mr. CHANLER, (dem.l OF n Il. asked the gentleman
him to aude to the part he (Mr. Chaner or any one
on his side OF the House had taken In what he said
removal Of our present Minister Resident st Onei
He wished to say TO Mr. Butler that he admitted his
reormers OF this country and one Of the most thor
Ough men In the world, particularly ~ illustrated IN
his war record for ACCORDING 70 Common st rumor ne
INF Nj PnUYs, p ,dem) Of r., said he agreed in part
the ass- missions referred to might b reduced;
! but he thought the Committee should have
Ga pseS sS rs On 70 s1s oy us
as having knowledge Of one Of the legations Of We
| nezuela where Mr. Pruyn's sea Is acting ss Charge
| d'Anares, he made some statements In regard to
that mission. lie questioned whether the term
commissioner, proposed 70 be used, was desirar
the powers granted to such an oficer. The Monroe
doctrine was alluded 70 by Mr.. Pruyn rs bearing upon
Ss He ouS
to Disagree with the report and make another enort
TO improve the condition Of the Dill.
vious question and Mr. BANKS demanded the yeas
| and nays. which were ordered.
l The report was disagreed to-yeas 45 nays 102.
Mr. BANKS moved that the House insist upon Its
| bill and that new committee be asked from the
Mr. BOUTWELL, submitted q report from the Con-
l ference Committee on
THE SUFFRAGE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
The report recommends that the House recede
from It's amendment and agree to the Senate propo
| sltiOn.
Mr. BOUTWELL, demanded the previous question on
Mr. WooDwA ARD raised the point Of order that It
was necessary present the joint resolution when
passed to the President Of the United States for his
| approval.
point OF order the chair Will decide upon It, Ii has
| been raised once before and decided By the chair.
He viii repeat the substantial part Of the decision.
which he thinks win satisfy the gentleman that his
| point Is not well taken, although based by
hun on the constitution OF the United States.
/ The question was raised distinctly In 1908,
| In the senate OF the United states, on mo-
| ton that the then proposed constitutional
| amendment should be submitted to the President
IL was decided IN the negative-yeas T. nays %. On
distinct vote OF 23 to the Senate voted that the
| Committee Enrolled Bulls should not present the
/ proposed amendments. This is decision made
by one OF the cary Congresses; but the Chair 5 not
satisfied with having 1t rest that. He is disposed
TO present higher authority In overruling the point
OF order IN i.sS case arose N me supreme Oours
| amendment 10 the constitution proposed IN
l7g4 and the counsel In argument before the court
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