, 1869-03-30
SENATOR FEK1Oh AND RAILROAD
M0MEf.
Twenty Thousand Dollars Reward
Interesting Testimony

Interesting Testimony.
fr~ Ia, st4s York Eeening Poss, Aa,rA 2; .:,..,
In ne Senate OF New York lz5t April sc,ect
>otntnfticc was appointed, "in relation 70 men,
bers receiving money from rsilros4 cGmpansea -,
Gently printed aud Ne hkre Jcst rseiseI s tn1s r.
port, Win the tc5tnony, From INC tesunon'
We pSpoes soK e sT1E,s; 1Sas,s 1sS Fsss Iiaar1r
On page il Nj 1lenH Thompson ,ss tesnonE ne ps ~
Ten IN thousand dollsrs and ether moneJ 10
t-rp.t smount Thus tGtc 4saye l12:
3. iiid sou give him money Jousielf: 4
o'd; s. III now much: 4 gave him ten thousand
g. Where: A. In New Yorf
3, Do you remember a what tine! A. No: I
*enate hlIi was Introduced or reported.
q. was that AL that you furnished h'mz A,
No sir; II waa not all
eomc 1noner, md Afterwards gave an oriet for the
money 10 Jay GoNlt 80 that canoos ear he had It.
q. In ~hcse favor was Lie order drawn A.
4. For how rnuchwahi It: A. 1donot remem-
lef the amount; Il Eas over MY taousand dolsrs-
drew an unler on Caldwell III favor OF Jay Gould.
IT MAS uH OWN M0NZY.
Q. What Information had you u regard - Cald-
wells having the money ii his hants betote the
or,ler was drawn? 4. This was not money belong
Ing 10 tae Enc Railway Company; 1t wai my o.n
money. .-...
was no specified purpo5e for which 1t wa1 put Ia
his haNdA but II MAI TO take charge Of this bill
and aiieI wards Mr. Gould came N here for The
.putpoce Of the bul; l had nothing to do with the
Senate bill m5scn, In any way, and when Nj Goald
money, gave Nj. Could IN order on Caldwell for
this money: what he did with It, or whether he
Iatd It 70 Ar. Gould, don't know; know nothing
fNFf fHNYH ~ IN 1hrkt
Caldwell, bcs,des hts ten thousand dollars: A l
donr know esacly; 1t was over nfs5 THOUSAND dol
He also gave money to Lewis F. Payne. page
Z. Or whether /, was ,.lshussct for the Euc Rail-
q, 10 vou Know Lewis +. Payne 1Inlbov Mss,sr
IN New loik: 4. MEOW man ny ne nams an. s. o.
1nyno-1 slppOs4. It il the oEc you le2h-4nat y,
Q. I'D YOU ray money 70 him, A. Tes, blr.
q. Whit alaount7 a. FIVE thoasanu aoaa's, !
q, For what purpose was that paid: A: ldonr
know s5 foe % o 81 ssai onn y as IT IAN ,1a mn M
llele In rtens,l to this :l nnd wanted hm To come
UP. an1 they cent ior hin aud he came TO ne md
E.nck; he said he would not come Otherwise
Nj Thompson testified further, page 1:s:
Nh TuoxlaoS RKFrsEs 70 ANSWER.
A. / didn't sec rny money pAld at all 3nnectet
With the passage Of the bill unless the ua5 mcut of
the money to Payne you consider In that connec.
3lDn
q. Dd you sec any money paid IN connection
with tie ILL, or with reference TO the bill. A.
do not know how you mean In reference the hill
! cannot answer the question very well Ia that
way.
q. As to the passing or the signing OF that bill !:
a. guess shasl not answer that question. T..
@. Why not. A. don't think that that 1t u
within The range of your Inquiry, Us understand IL
On rags IA MI Thompson WE asked ut1cr quts-
uUns, aid testified AS follows:
q. Haven't you toll Ex-senator Aarohy, who
Is present herrt that ou saw 81 LEeo paid 10 per
son in Albany 4. don't rcinembcr Of telling
body q It,
q But IN rceanl TO whether you did or not: I
Than Vhst y ron II lave % statci. i. I hive seen
9atuou paid good many times.
the city Of Albany to any perEon, with the rcw Of
securing the enactment Of tue Erie Railway bill
into alaw7 4. II you Tt1i e5cTse :.. me should
cpact;.1cpt II as YOU nse Il :
o. 4 lii is not e.lac,ef, as underst and, until
Il sicned b. the Goyernor. A / sh;Il answer the
question a. did the question before
~ W. ',fsa q =. e ,s,n Sn,f,, 4 ys ii
TIC ino1try In which tae coumittee are engaeed
Na THOMPSON AsswEns FREELY.
Twin lie secn TINT when ssIed whether he saw
trenr1 thonsad t;oIiats ps,d 70 nerSon in Aibsnr
cTteT lie 1aesc7e Of the ttII, III. Thompsou r.
fused 70 ai,swcf. Eut he WI. more ready when
R1LeJ aiout The s,m being paII b<fvrt the bI1J
Tassed. >--''
o i:y Mr.. S,chols. Jf ron faw any such money
haSea1 as sssd III shas tssS ssx Y sny moaey % paid
O. Til ror see the su,n ot sa9.os.. oT anT other
sun. naid to anS rs SENIOR @ T o. anypody IN 'Aibany
Sefore rasssi T sns 1T two % ho"ses q
tic Le.sslaiute! 4. So. si5.
II Msqsssr ;ss;,s Tnq%as uFpny was next called.
'''As srsa4sN su:ss; nskl1iI ssia1r TALKS FREELY.
c,fG, Yea ~ Ae1 's7'os - A'e" IVA
& Yon werr formerly scna,or from th,. city
Fl iSS ra 81: ,o, Inn. ,.s, u,n,o- o,,,co, :, ,,ro
caf}ne ths nsSsare @ ~ The Erie iii 4 y " I'D str
1nt tnetSi1.i n zSi,b ~ tSa 0hTocntas ri wv FL
en- cnnvsrn.+tan ~ ots las'"ee' a. An een
a Wsve rnn ho,, cor conversation r,,b anr n
ftnn ~ tha ~ tnent ~ ,nnnav a ~ a,r me n.a
sace AZ Ills Iii, Not n securr ths nassay1. 70 n
i1c bill. '-' H. -''' ~ 0'>0'' 'Ae passage
g. e WIN feiersnce , 70 the nii: a A can state II
mry.inw of iht 11non 1c1c'e r11i, nrrt1nns r. r.
iast 1aIia eicc1tn @ t oh,c y, ihe met,nv "a,
t6 ao so a. ~ ~ H. PATTY - ts
rrnfIem N sfstri i:ani ,i1e ria RaIiwav "on,nan1
hsd given The Drmocra,ic rarty M si",U5; the nsx1
Natiorai Cvmlni.itts rooms ~ Tfre isstnv ii Il
over, and somc members Of ihc s.ate Committee,
me il / wnuld not 70 on thcir rart to sce Nj.
RepuG,.csn nari7 ns he .iIi for the Democra;ic
party, which volunteered to do, mud did do: had
AfoE1ner ras1ncr Of Mr. Fisk with Inc; saw Mr..
fsH, and told hun that FELT tho Ncpub1tcan party
Haa saseu tue EI7e lsallWny ElSt bprlE2 Ani thnt
s1a;emcnt waa made n The Union Lc.znc Clul,, the
pl.ht before, that lhtEEe hallway hal given the
Democracy $lo0,HJ TO cary HE STATE against
tt Me !ep1an ah;,' raftE, snien d! not tnink vas
do t1c sllne for tie Republican parry.
40! TUE FAkIf, bC1 Nh fESfoS
~. Flhk nu not wish to SPEAK on that subject
iof the rCad nnd askc! 1ue 10 walt and see Mr.
&i0uid, whom he expected there In few minutes: :