New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1869-02-24
ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC ATTEMPT AT
WHITEWASHING.


ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC ATTEMPT Al
WHITEWASHING.
TESTIMONY TAKEN BEFORE THE GRAND Jukl
or THE OYER AND TERMINER, AND THEIR
REPORT THEREON
In December last the Grand jury had
under consideration various matters relating to
on irregularities, and they directed their Secretary
. spafe the testimony given before them relative to
: alleged frauds that it might be entered In their
ties. This testimony has been puDlshed Dy the
tcton of the DistrctAttorney Some OF the evidence
Alexander T Stewart sworn and e1amined-Q; Did
Committee in the city Of NewlOrk during the recent
Da %G & aO S maeS
should be pleased to ask question: am permitted OF
the Jury. subpenaed here by the subpoena 10 give
evidence in relation frauds committed by Daniel f.
6ickles. would be pleased to know whether the Court
which 1 have been subpenaed have nothing to con-
zeal. and willing to tell you every thing that nave
right to beyond that for which have been sub
ponaed here this morning.
Did understand that you questioned the right Of the
jury have nothing to conceal I as to anything per
man. but am subpenaed here 10 give evidence in rela
SR e SeT1a a 1'f Want a the 0 y to that
do not object to giving evidence but merely wish the
Marshall O. Roberts, sworn and examined-Q. Do you
sickles for election purposes A do not. O. Did you
subscrbe any moneys for election purposes the late
Ss1eray A. Is that the subject for which am sub
8 D y1S the @ 1 0n9y y
objection 10 answer ~ but as a matter OF
q charged with expanding large sums Of money and tho
difference is reasonable that some one must have given It
cody for hun; he received any money OF mine
der any circumstances, at any time q Ddyou sub
suohi 4. do not Tecollect Q. Did you subscribe any
for fraudulent purposesi A. None w1ateyer-none
TecOiect that you have ever. subscribed anyi
A did not subscribe any subscribing Is putting your
s sass or pdeS T. made no memcrandu@ Of It, &
MG mSsa @ me- to don't probsS
more Q. Did you subscribe as much as $1,000 A.
$1,000 A. / do not recoect that might perhaps Q.
Did you subscribe much as $4,000 A. do not recOl
less than sioOco do YOU think you could have recoi
isctedi A. Wen, should think probably might;
NEVER gave sckes cent money, and he has never
ed me- q Pa t9S sStf S Y6 to s
I've Committee Of the statei A. No, not at all.
S ydn KNOW tie S as S If hs
| A. My Impression isl win tell you, but do not
you have Sn TO ski ea PeSdI NOT ST e lSI bnt
has been brought TO the subject They did not as
John H. White was examined as to the presence Of
registry lists Republican Committees room in the
O. DO You know Of yonr committee having passed reso-
Jutlon requiring the Republican Registerst bring the
Ho.sii A. No. Sir; had that whole matter in cfai|'
o. The organization did mott A. No such resolution
ESTRy is missSfeD Mr. Murphy does not know " a@T nv
thing about that matter In the rst place the Reeub
seoa6s were Invited to meet at room 10 IS pn
across the way for The purpose Of being nsreeeya
IA IL SO happened went over and gave them such
lions that the exigencies OF the case demanded The
sJo make transcript OF their register and send X 10
0ou No. at the end Of each days registration so that
a y m TnaIA ~ 1f.N nf than utfal,NI
- Al PVT generally they came In on inanisttp. papers
o., ON these manuscript papers they copied by
registers did bring books that they had bongbt
D SO% ses amy TSok 9 1Ge registry brought to Tins
that there Vas any brought there they handed In
not he registry books have got them now: wa ssSsd
~ copy Of the names that registered &c thar YEA
ssss 70 make up challenge books &C. O. DO Won mere
q the books being taken from the Police Headquarters
MI GEO. Bliss, Jr. testified on the subject as follows
some time prior 10 re eieoti6h. leafne tillt sF Ken
sdy had made what was called census of the city;
earned that through the newspapers asked the Police
lnssODers II It and two Of them at least told
esad it was in process asked what use was 70
ade OF those books and could get no information II
o. and asked II those books e0uiG Uo psed sgbse.
' % Ky sgsSiaSpp ''ySn' %s. Or tod dd'' sRss
cred; subsequently was told that the original
had been directed TO remain in the Police Head
;ers, and not to go out. then asked If / was at
yto sec them. Twas told that, like all the records
CITY unless there some particular reason they
eva open 70 my inspection. sat down In the office and
81 AHMED some OF them then made the remark that
DeiDg public records supposed had q right TO COPY
them Immediately took means TO have copies made
% then and found that TO OF them copies had
eroady been made. O. BY whom were Che copies madel
a They were made by clerks whom EMPLOYED / EN-
p19ed clerks, and paid them make them in the Police
Hebdquarters There were clerks who were there
whom induced 10 stay hours and make them, but
1850 got clerks from outside. @ Those books that had
eeeB copied, you did not have any additional cop4s
out used those copies and these were loaned 10 Won
N6body loaned them 70 me; asked those books ,vere
public, and was told that they nOtthat they yefe
private pr0perty-that the pass books were the pubs
looks. took them and used them, such as Won have
here; those checks were all made at Head1uartars
b. Is my impression-I would not be certain O no
Joe know the Specification OF those checksf A. DO o
What does the cross meant A. A plain check means
thas person similar TO that, precisely like A.
hsd regstered the cross means that person similar
name had registered, aud probably IL was the same per
con; Tor instance, you would find John Wagner who had
registered aud James Wagner would appear the police
1sogro. q When did you order those bOOksf A 10
~ impossible Tor me 10 tell ! should think a was
az same day that first a book OF he same Kind
LINK the same day hrst OF the original pass
ana also one OF those books similar 10 that Mr.
nM III MS hand. q Was 10 before tho registry com.
"a yes, Sir; your suggestion enables 10
was ptoDaDy tho geek previous 70 the dat regis
49,. Soiid thlnk perhaps the Wednesday; Know
.em W 70 nave lnem ready before the registry
'"~ehceo' fop say youhad eighty clerks enployedi