, 1869-05-05
TEMPERANCE vs.. iR1EMpERANcE.
Discussion Hetweeo a Prohibitionist
and an Anti -Prohibitionist.
Tho Question StIll Uusottlpd.

A discussion between m advocate Of temper |
ancc ant an advocate Of intemperanec tfor 1t vas
no1htug else} sttrncted about three hundred |
peop.e to Turner Hall tast evening. The friends OF
"tne cause" were decidedly optnumhezed, me
majority Of the audience being Germans Them
were three ladies present The question upon
which the gentlemen argned was. Ia the Liquor
Traffic suhrerstre Of Civil and Religious Liberty r
Nr. 3. ". Goodhue taking the Affirmative, aud
Nj. Carl Woolston the negative.
TUE AFFIRMATIVE
Nj. Goodhre opened he debate, and said Il
seemed strange that, at this day, people should as
setnble to dlscuss the question ct liberty In any
form. 1t wenld seem from the very character OF
our Institutions AMI the education Of the peor1c
that the principle Of liberty was one which VAS
we'll understood by every citizen. To the nattrc.
born it. Was The great am' or his political
fah; to ine adopted y was ~ ,ae 3oa' 81
what Is evil and religious liberty: might b. defined
from one ma1s standpoint, and set CONFLICT with
Is disputants On tbs question, civil libeTty wos!a
be DEFINED As the right Of the ci:tzea to enjoy tac
S degree sa, & freedom d ssSsaa'sa By L.
happiness, though not in!ering ins llfS aai pto7e
erty Of his nci9hbor; and religious liberty a. se
dictates Of his own cousctencc, and practice saea
religious rights rs may be consistent with bis own
ysw O. dHty Il ~ sea sS at
OF the 1lylslual, affects the State, for ID d.
mocrarJ the individual WIS part OF the S:a:e;
.hefetoEs Z he 1nastaas1 by hts own ass .; b
s Me,eh e. evss coaay ann ae 81 7aenss Wsen @ ss h
% IL I y RE RI
would applr 10 to the man who deg7ates himself
by the nse and abuse OF into1icatinE liquors, and
upon the zees1ng, b1ood-slaincd aita7 of Rsccaus
| There must te 4 commencement in = course o!
| dissipation. The first glass might be weak- A
drake1 s for some Tine, bat dnsly, he CONFINES,
he will beeon,e ai1unIart!, and canaot do wtihoat
I'D f.. a. sqs e5S 9h a 5es4 4sa aaoxsa We
| tnat..the whtskey power was undermining the
| foundations Of our National Government, aad
I5erty. No CT creed among ctsillsed nations allowed
man 10 destroy himself OF asise those 70 whom he
| owes mosal obligation. He claimed that !ndui-
sab7ert lne freedom or the Individual, aud - the
Individual Is ra and parcel Of the nation, there
1ore, In proportion to the Popularity Of tne
10 the slavery Of power founded on passion anl
prompted by ayarlce- The liquor tratllc vas
n sissi lsS shss .a vs ssens g.
dealers, who paid license 10 the government II
1soe the total value Of sptrstnous and malt lluos!
nToa;nction IL IS; Wa 5sto'on. Allowing an AZ
tendance Of three In each Of tho 1ao,oN saloons
there would be m army Of 1906 mcn-aa ARM
larger than the population Of either Vermont q
New Hampshire.
The hail hour allotted tn tho speaker expired
and Mr: Woo!stoa rcplied liz said that temper
aDce and not tutempe1ance Was snbsersise OF r.
| ligiouf liberty. lie agreed with the gentleman
definition OF civil antl religious Liberty Hc woil'
endeavor to .how that the si1NoE 1amc *as 10
which Is called ciyil and religious We're NOT a
| things put into existence ~ the " elements To-
The Genent OF nsanknd: The traditions Of all na
ot, fh1ts sfnr
ttons-that they hat! their source IN fncta In IN
dia, the Coolies collest the milk Of the cocoann
fna rasaonia ahe ~ she Intans hai 4' M root whci
they Relieved was presented by their geds out .
which they nade strong drink. The PnE1'1g'1es
In or,,er nat they might have ther t'n!p.'. the:
dug hoes in the ground md made, not much, bu
ye sgns 9aes S4 ana Tefe fer todaz ayfac aaeon
could not drink the waite! because TOO many st1tn
people had been Crowned in It. [Arpiause.! Fo
6sy sons ~ y ae II hes
TUNED water into wine When tho temwranc
nef snefe =, but 10 10 Heaven. lie did moi nelssse +
drinking Or getting drunk, hut he did believe th1
no power on earth cuaht to have the power I
Compelled a not to drink L he wanted 70. III
. ] cause Of temperance could be forrarded ten ha:
dge.l thousand fo:a b. leanns the Question ot
Ixikd to 90 right be would 60 wrong. As soon .
you make I dTunkard out OF man by forcing HIT
, not to drink. the internal punishment falls bae
upoa tenpSnnes 51ance. me1 1,er9 ns tT,n,7s Ses%
men had taken their. "hltfsrS"
! certain man, brewer hal tosl him, ncye
passed his brewery without coming Ia and hsVin
four gaS6e4 OF beer. II there was no fi0uOr tr:r
! there would he no internal revenue Whevc W0ul
.. the taxes come from lie dill not believe th:
there was Whlskcy power IN this country. Il
did not believe that temperance had anything
do with politics, hut did believe flat II that par
| ~ Il Srf In I
s1e the ,,ep eoun'ry ;,s,s II .b,u, man n, wa3
|. law 10 prohibit him from doing So He could u
e ace what tho Liquor ta.id had to do With reitsin
! Religion, Us he understood 1t, wns the proper e
q | errise 0t mans common sense Religious II
). crtt, guaranteed TO The people by the cou*tut!n
/, | wtA that man ought to believe az MECH o! I
Il 1gtun - he pleased The t;ermaus would drt'
{ | IN spite OF plohthtory laws.
2 TIE coACLESl0S.
/. Ar. Goodhue then closed the daseEsa!on. ]
l. Hald civil and religious l4serty n5 it was unle
stood IN this cornET. Was that the minority snoN
!, submit to the major1y. They had been to1d tn
i the Germans would drink ln spite Of legal ellac
1 | me1ts and constitutional law. He did not u
u eye that they won1l: IniemreEanes psnnot' n,,3
!, ignorance, and IN many cases thsg went haaa
i was sutFeHlnG the foundations Of eot
e government. The temperance party eiaimel II
Il fundamental prtncp!c that the rrohlhtticl
q ! the I9uor tKaElc was legitimate anu proper G
9 | errlse Of the powers and functions OF gnsfrnme
h for the preservation nj civil anu religious 1lLerty
| DISPERSAL
o The meeting adjourned With arr!Irse for ~
n slsS, either sle Kissing whl!r tac other nrp!a
ii ed. Other questions IN relation TO tem!~zAn
>. | VAL Ire discussed nt soMe future time.