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After further debate n Committee was appointed
to draw up n report embodying the reasons for
disagreement to the amendment proposed by the
House of Lords.
Adjourned.
TIE BILL RETURNED TO THE LORDS.
LONDON, July 2l-In the House of Lords last
night the Irish Church bill, as returned from the
House of Commons, was taken up. The Earl of
Granville complimented the House of Lords on
the ability and craftsmanship developed In the late
debate, and the moderation shown by the OPPOSE
ton towards the Government. lie thought some OF
their amendments good, some bad, and others
quite inadmissiblc. He did not consider that the
Commons dealt superciliously or contemptuously,
for out of sixty amendments only thirteen had
been absolutely rejected. He analysed the
amendments having the effect to reendow what
the bill intended to disendow. He said the oc-
current endowment which the Government was
Obliged to consider is a breach of faith with their
constituents while the overwhelming majority in
the House OF Commons, and public opinion were
opposed to 1T. With respect to the disposal OF
the surplus fund, the more he saw and heard, the
more he was convinced it was disadvantageous
to keep the question open. He deprecated the
proposal to keep thee millions dangling before
the people tie excite agitation, and urged the
lords not to adhere to the amounts proposed by
the reinsertion Of the words struck out from the
presemble of the original bill. Lord Cairns COM
DtaIiCh III ctiOHR CihiS tuht t"S bNi O.
not adhered to the Earl of Granville's pledges
that the lords amendments would be respectfully
considered. for ON the faith OF this promise many
who objected TO this bill on its own merits, were
induced to vote for its second reading. Mr..
Gladstone bad used language unworthy of him.
self and his position and the speaker commended
that the amendments, which had been rejected,
except two, had been disposed of without the
slightest consideration. He hoped the House
would insist on it's amendments with respect to
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disposition and curates and Communication life in
terests.
Earl Kimberly said the Government could not
give way to Earl Grey. He thought the words
in the original preamble offensive to the religious
majority in Ireland, and urged the Government
to concur in the amendment.
Lords Halifax, Clanricarde and SALISBURY,
supported the Government, and the debate was
continued till a late hour by Earl Russell and the
Marquis of Salisbury and the Duke of Argyle,
who urged resistance to the demands of the Gov
eminent. The House finally divided on Earl
Granyille's motion to restore the preamble, with
the following result For the motion, 95;
against it, 173.
The Earl of Granville moved an adjournment,
that he might consult his colleagues, which was
carried.
LONDON, July 2I.-A short time after the d.
vision against the Government in the House of
Lords, Mr.. Gladstone entered the House of Com
mons. His appearance was the signal for Il re-
markable outbreak of enthusiasm. Cheer after
cheer came from the liberal side, and the bust
ness of the session was entirely suspended.
COMMENTS OF TnR PRESS ON THE ACTION OF THE
LORDS.
The press to-day are occupied with the subject
of the vote in the House of Lords. Tho Times is
satisfied the bill may be passed this session, if
the principle minds on both sides divest them
selves of the passion and prejudices by which
they arc influenced. The imminent peril is that
the heat of party may be carried into the Cabinet
and hasty resolution taken. Should there be no
action until another session, the Lords have
rushed upon the certain consequences of defying
the national will. The division of last night has
revealed the spirit in which the bill has been op-
posed from the first.
Telegraph thinks the Lords have virtually
settled the bill for the session. A new bill will
be presented, more stringent in form, and must
be accepted. III anything was needed to damage
the Irish Church and arouse the country to pas
sionate resistance, the reckless debate of yester-
day has furnished it.
The NeIUs considers the country in the midst of
a constitutional crisis. The Lords, giving full
swing to their reckless impulses, have rushed
into n collision with the Government, the House
OF Common and the country. The duties and
responsibilities of the situation should be weighed
by the Ministry with calmness and confdence-of
men sure OF ultimate and speedy victory. The
Bill, when presented at the autumn session, will
become the law with great speed. The Lords
Will not require the threat of the creation of
new Peers to lead them to assent to more strin-
gent measures. The country must decide whether
an irresponsible debating society is to be allowed
to interposc between it and its deliberate purpos-
es and convictions, constitutionally expressed.
LONDON, july 21.-In the House of Commons
tonight there was a full attendance of members.
A petition praying for the rejection of the amend
ments of the Irish Church bill was presented and
received with loud cheers. Mr.. Millbank, men,
Der for North Riding, Yorkshire, inquired if it
was competent for this House to demand an
apology from the House of Peers for language
used by their Lordships insolent to the Premier
and insulting to the dignity of the Commons.
The Speaker declared that the question was
neither on APPOINT of order or of privilege. This
House was not cognizant of what passed in the
House of Lords, and he decided that the question
could not be entertained.
LONDON, July 2l.-There is a rumor that Mr..
will withdraw the Irish Church Bill,
and as soon as the supplies have been voted, pro-
rogue Parliament in order to introduce the bin at
the autumn session, under circumstances which
will cause the Lords to hesitate before rejecting it.