The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1869-06-14
TALK WITH AR. PEABODY.

ATALK WITH AR. PE1BODY.
His Views ON American and British Re-
lations-Mr Summers Speoch-No Prob
ability OF War-Mr. Peabody's Chart.
ties I'm England and the United states,
Mr.. George Peabody. the great philaltLro-
pist, who arrived at New York few days ago
from Europe, has gone to Massachusetts 70
visit his relatives and intimate friends. His
health, it is said, is not good, although he is
not seriously indisposed. considering his ad-
vauccd age. A correspondent Of o New York
jclrnal has had an interview with him, and
makes the following report:
To the inquiry, "What was and is the average
opiuiou IT English statesmen and the English
people OF the merits OF the present question.
between the United Stetes and Groat Britain z
he responded
"Well. at first, men in England accepted
Summers epeech as tho utterance, as it were,
of a mau behind the throne ! hey supposed
that he spoke not only on benalt OF the Senate
and tho Radical party here, but as mouth
piece OF the administration itself. This you
know, because you have seen the evidence OF
1t in the London newspapers, and because
it had infected all the kilograms which have
been seat from London across the Atlsntlc."
..Mr. Summers speech was then asurprlse in
England ?"
IA surprise, certainly; though they were
prepared for some such expression BY The re-
lection OF the Johnson-Stanley treaty. Upon
that treaty ell England was willing enough to
stand. It had been long onsidered-discuss-
cd in the most public way, 30 that everyb dy
people. and there was strong hope-largeiy
due to Mr.. Johnson's confidence IN the matter
that tn Senate would coDf1Im It,"
'Mr. johnson gained good opinions in Fog
land 2"
Q stronger hold upon the hearts, the affections
OF Epglishmen. They only thought (the
thouehtful among them) that he was not dis
Greet enough; that he was too confident; that
he promised too muoh-as the sequel shows.
MIR. johnson came down TO Brighton: where
was staviug, and remained some time, and I
believe can testify to the honesty and earnest
ness of his convictions and endeavors"
ibid the sudden explosion OF Summers bonn
bastic bombshen produce an apprehension OF
war;"
"No. The government was not led so fur as
to anticipate that; and even the journals which
have talked the loudest didn't believe in any
such probability. Their first instinct was. OF
course, to stiffeu the national spine, and let
people on this side of the water know that
there wasn't any willingness 10 be imposed
upon in tie modern nature OF John Bull.
But no person OF any consideration behev-
ed, from the first, that war could come OF
this difficulty. The commercial interests
Of the TWO countries are 80 interviewer n and
mutually dependent that, for this reason
alone, war was thought to be hardly possible" :"
"Was all this loud talk by the English press
mere sham talk 2"
"Oh, no, it wasn't altogether intended for
that, be sure. II was in good part and faith
the Interpretation OF the real feeling OF En-
sense Of honor, personal or national, you touch
him in the tenderest place. He resents It.
Every man in England would have been will
ling to resent, to the extremity OF war, the de-
mand which Sumner sought to get the admin
istration to enforce. Mr. Bright, who was the
last man saw in Loudon before / left, The
luuched with mo at 2 O'Clock, and lett at 3D.
confirmed me in this impression. And there
is no one there who has more earnest affec-
ton for this country than has Mr.. Bright.
Nsi,her he nor any other ElglishmAn could
accept the preposterous theory of Sumner"
$50 Mr.. Sumner, as anticipate, has eased
to be the recognized exposition or American
opinion IN England"
"Dlcliedlv. HIS speech, up to the time
when 1 left, had come 10 be regarded as
speech made more for 'buncambe' than tor any,
thing else. 1t was pretty we'll accepted as
bid by Sumner for popularity. Tho dISclaim-
ers OF the Amerlcln press had produced reac-
ton. Several OF the most eminent representa-
tive mon in England, associated with every
phase OF politics there, whom l met and woo
addressed me in writing before my departure,
assured me of their conviction that Summers
logic would not convincs the majority on either
side of the Atlantic"
with this conviction, what is the present
attitude Of the British Government and the
English people p
"They fold their arms. They rest on their
oars.' They considered that the Johnson
Stanley treaty conceded everything that Gre
BrlIain ought to concede. They will not 10 no
further IN the way of concession. They trust
the United States Government will go no
farther in the way OF demands. They have no
sympathy with the Rad cal party in this conn-
try Il speak Of the majority OF EnglIshmen)
but they repoSe some confidence IN the GOOD
seose OF the present administration. They
were prepared TO regard Mr. Motley = advent as
peaceful one. IL did not SEQ MIR. Motley,
whom know. The steamer IN which came
out passed his, arriylng.)
MIR. NJ 1tley was NOT expected to mike any
definite further demandp
"lhat was my impression.
elbow about Great Br,ta'n?"
"Tne British Government will make no pro-
posa. The whole matter, so far as Great
Britain is concerned. remains N open ques-
ton. She abides in the principle OF the john
SOD stanley treaty as before. Against any un-
reasonable exaction beyond that basis, be-
heve she would resolve to fight"
hlr. Peabody Inquired whether MIR. Roverdy
johnson had received any receotlon or other
testimony OF public regard since his return
to this country? Nothing OF the kind had
been reported IN the Baltimore newspapers.
Although number OF visitors had called to
see hin, the Anglo-American philantbroplst
was willing (havins quilted the international
auestion) to explain some facts connected with
hls numerous onar1ties. He aDimadverted, In
blandly emphatic tone, against the msstate-
ments Of the resu Is OF his benefactions IN
London. Nothing could have been more in;
teresling than the old gentlemen's manner and
conversation al this stage Of the interview. de
sat at the other end Ct the sofa, with one leg
casionally and looking somewhat iuirm. His
cous D, he SAID, was due to an affection Of the
bronchial tubes an / Of the nerves near the pit
of the 81 mach. It was very wearing" and
the more he spoke of 1T the more he con he'd.
ut will take som, time and !. care sand AID. Mr..
tho moor of Ionaop he SAID: