The New York herald., 1869-04-07

when Congress should meet next December u would
have the benent of the Presidents experience 10
instruction or avoidance. In conclusion Mr.. Dawes
submitted an amendment to that eject "a substb
Mr.. CLARKE, (rep.) OF Kansas. desired to move
proviso, that hereafter the Indian tribes shall be
sea Incapable Of making treaties a. w te me
SO as to let the amendment be offered II OF order
Mr.. BUTLER OF Mass reviewed the relations OF the
United States government with tine Indians, COM
menclng with the early history OF the settlement OF
New England He held that the treaties made with
the Indians did admit the right OF the Indians to
the soil, but only admitted their possession OF the
s0l for 1t had been the rule OF all European nations
nized country owned the soil OF that country. The
fourteenth amendment OF the constitution required
TO be considered in connection with the indians.
That amendment provides that all persons born or
naturalized In the United states and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof are citizens OF the United States
ana OF the Stete wherein they reside. Could the
President and Senate make valid treaties with
portion OF the citizens o. the United Satesf He in
sisted that by the ratification Of that amendment the
Indians became citizens. They were on the soil aud
under the Jurisdiction OF the United States, and he
held as the best opinion he could to that there
was no validity IN any treaty attempted to be made
with any Indian tribe since the ratification Of the
fourteenth amendment Referring to the mode in
which the Indian treatle3 have been ratified In the
senate he said he could call Senator TO witness
that an important Indian treaty had been ratified
when there were but two senators In the chamber
one acting as the Senate and the other as chairman
OF the committee.
MI BUTLER Jid not rec llect bur 1t was i treaty
which was now one OF the supreme laws of the
ianu." He pointed 10 the fact that north OF tGe
United States boundry line there was no Inaian
war, and that south or that line there was no In.
no Indian war; but that Ia our borders there was
always Indian war, and that immediately after our
acquisition OF Alaska intelligence came OF Indian
starvation and Indian war there. All this he at
trlbuted to the vicious system OF making treaties
with and appropriations for the Indians He hoped
the House would stand UP against those new Indian
to stay here If necessary all summer, as 10 have
proper legislation for the government OF the indians.
Without disposing of the bill the committee rose.
THE FIRST LOUISIANA DISTRICT CONTESTED ELEc-
Mr.. PAINE, from the Election Committee made
report in the contested eecton from the First
Congressional district OF Louisiana that the claimant,
St. Martin, Is unable TO take the test oath. The re-
pOrv was laid on the table.
The House then, at fve O'Clock, took recess iii
hapast seven O'Clock, the evening session TO be for
the consideration OF the Indian Appropriation bill.
Evening Session.
The House resumed Its session at half-past seven
in Committee Of the Wno!e-Mr. JUDD IN lne chair
on the Indian Appropriation bill, the question being
on the amendment offered by Mr.. Dawes placing
100000 at the disposal Of tile President 10 preserve
the peace among the Indians.
Mr., BECK tdem.) Of Ky, argued in support OF the
amendment offered by Mr.. Dawes. The senate had
adde $500 001 to the bill as It passed the House,
The Committee Appropriations felt satisfied that
II was impossible between this and Saturday next
TO look into all these items, and that the only course
LEFT was to bridge over the diillclltes between now
and December.
Mr.. LAWRENCE thought there was principle
underlying the bill OF tile utmost Importance TO the
whole country. The issue between the House and
the Senate was whether the House was bound 10
carry out the stpliations In the treaties made bY
the senate or whether the House should reserve 70
isef the right OF passing its udgn ,nts on the mat
ter For his part, he opposed to the amendments
put the bil Oy the Senate. ana he held that the
House was not bound By these treaties to vote an
appropriation Of money.
Mr. ALLISON asked Mr. Lawrence whether ha
thought Congress could perfect an Indian policy be.
fore it's Adjournment, next Saturday.
Ian n IN, npp N a
would have the resolution for adjournment rescinded
He commented on the action OF the Committee on
Appropriations III delivering over the Indians To ihs
President without chart or Compass to guide him.
He referred to the terms OF an Indian treaty as pub,
sied III the NEW YORK HERALD Of the ed day Of
February last, and said that the lobby was heid
operating.
Mr.. DI0kEY, rep) Of Pa.-what forS
Mr.. LAwRENcR-1he gentleman can have an oppor-
tunity 10 nnd cut. Members OF the lobby are hero
and nave oeen exerting their influence today IN
tais Capitol with promises OF money 10 carry this
treaty 0rough.
Mr.. DAWES called upon Mr.. Lawrence to name
the parties who offered money 10 members OF Cou-
Mr.. LAWRENCE denied saying that money was
offered to members of the House or senate; he had
only said that the lobby was ut work to carry that
treaty through.
The question was taken on increasing the apprc-
pratlon TO S2.50o,o0o. ard IL was rejected.
The question was then taken on the amendment
offered by Mr. Dawes as a substitute for all the
senate amendments, making appropriations under
the new treaties and II was agreed to. Is as fol-
lows
That there appropriated further millions,
much thereof be necessary TO enable the Pres
dent to maintain the peace among and with the various
trioes, and parties OF Indians otherwise
ciently provided for in this act, and promote
among Indians bring where practica-
bic, reservations relieve their necessities and encouras
their Efforts self support; report OF all expenditu
under this appropriation is to be made detail TO Congress-
IN December
Ihe Senate amendments were then taken up in
their order. and were disposed OF in the manner
recommended by the Committee on Appropriations,
twenty-five OF them being concurred in and lo3 non-
concurred in.
Tie committee then rose ana the House at quar-
ter past ten ocioCS x adjourned.
The vote In the House Is ~ be taken tomorrow Oh
the amendments.