The States and Union. [volume] (Ashland, Ohio) 1868-1872, 1869-06-16

"But they know what the United
States will consent to from MI. Sum
ner's speech"
eyes; but it is utterly ridiculous to
suppose that they will yield to his de.
mahds."
GLOW about this question of bellig-
erencyF"
"That was covered in my portocol,
and as much reparation was there made
for it as eve the English Government
will consent to make Why, France
recognized the South; Spain did it;
Russia did it. Why is England alone
to be held accountable for it? They
will never tolerate the idea. By the
way, how about the diplomatic cores
p%ondence? Has it all been published
I mean that which covered my pro-
tocol? Immediately after the treaty
was negotiated, on the 18th of Janu-
airy. I wrote a letter on the treaty
generally, and on the 18th I sent a
long despatch indicating and explain
ing it, which has not yet, so far as I
have seen, been published. Mr.. Sew
ard wrote me at the time that both he
and Mr.. johnson were satisfied with
all that 1 had done, and that the pro-
tocol was satisfactory. After the treaty
was sent here l., for the first time, saw
that the United States Government
was disposed to think that it had claims
of its own, distinct from the individu-
al claims Of its ~citizeas. This made a
new complication which 1 had not
dreamed of
"But Mr.. Seward, in 1866, insisted
very strongly that the recognition of
the South as belligerents by the Eng
fish Government was a grievous ma
tional wrong toward the United
States"
81 know he did, but no claim for
damages arising under it was made,
at least l was not instructed to present
a bill for that alleged offence. When
[ learned the fresh demand of the
United States, / went to see Lord
Clarendon. I had a conversation with
him and expressed my willingness to
sign a supplemental convention, if the
claims were pressed by the Uni
ted States in which it was agreed
to submit the claims that either
Government might have against
the other to arbitration. Clarendon
did not exactly reject my offer, but
asked me if 1 did it under special in
~structions. / said not under special
instructions, but l thought my gener-
al instructions covered it. Clarendon
and 1 parted without arriving at a sat-
~isfactory conclusion so far as the poilt
was concerned. 1 then telegraphed to
Secretary Fish that i could get claims
that either Government may have up
on the ether submitted in the same
way az the private, individual Alabc-
ma claims, if instructed. VIII you
i~nstructl' Mr.. Fish answered me that
convention was in the Senate, and he
did not know. That would have let
Mr.. Summers claim in; but now It
will not be considered in the shape
presented, because it is extravagant.
But suppose it is insisted upon?
President Grant will not insist upon
it, 1 am confident. IF he should do
it, wal will be the result. 1 do not
know anything of Mr.. Motley's instruc
tions. Clarendon says he does not
know what they are, and W. have on
ly to wait the ourse of events"
"IIow about the consular and a
uralization treaties? :" 81 had 20 it,
structions about the consular conven-
ton, although we want II sadly"
"What did they say about Mr..
Grimes letter in England?" "Well,
it had a good effect. 1 know that
Grimes was not there at the time. 1t
was a little thing which had a good
effect in official circles. The author
of it vas well known, and of course
the editor of the London Times knew
who wrote it. There was alittle breeze
at the Foreign Office about it, but !
knew all the facts contained in it, al
though | never mentioned them to
Clarendon. 1t was young Howard
who made the remarksto which Grimes
objected; still it was very foolish
Howard was a mere subordinate, an
attache of the Legation, and was wrong
to mention it. Clarendon has, l I'M
derstand, written to Thornton on the
subject. Young Towards livery nice
fellow, and married to a daughter of
Riggs, the banker" Mr.. johnson
talked much more and quite freely on
English affairs, and on the English
people, their press their industries, &c.
He gave interesting descriptions of in
dividuals, and of his reception by
members of the nobility and others;
but these things border too closely Oh
the sacrednos5 of private life, and are
too personal for publication in newspa-
Der columns.