The New York herald., 1869-03-10
BROOKLYN CITY.
THE COGRTs.
r~rrp STATES COMMISSIONERS cuua1.
The Alleged Drawback Fraud Case.
Before Commissioner Jones.

eharred with swindlng the government by means
Of presenting to the Treasury Department fraudn
lent claims for drawback, came up again yesterday
Asslstant District Attorney =. I. Paris and ar. MI
government. Mr. Tracy, the District Attorney, was
absent in Washington, on business connected with
TESTIMONY OF RIssENBER6RR CONTINUED.
Jerome II. n. Riesenberger was again put upon
claims were handed witness who testified concern
fng them that they were fraudulent and that the
self and the other parties accused. The testimony
concerning one Of these claims win give idea a.
ns Ssrg q i sas Gn' r. an Gsns so
6l,l9ol witness-Thls Is one OF the three or
.o1T claims spoken o. before tnat Mnlmster gave me
70 get share OF the claim by taking 1t to Laidlaw
Ne only gave me q certificate that . bond had been
Med; he said he wanted TO send 1t to washington;
We understood, OF course that they were all bogus
the certincate Is in Wilson'S handwriting; am Ia
nected with this claim Is the cerncate OF Laidlaw;
the manifest certified to by Theriot is IN the
same party; it Is signed by George r. wilson; think
. b fictitious name; received the papers from
Wnimster on the corner OF Broad street and Ex-
EgDed Them In La Fiura's liquor saloon, In Court
street. near the Collectors oifice never saw Laid
law sign any AT the Collectors oifce; / have
seen him sign at three different times and
four or five papers IN all; after ne signed them
gave them back 70 Whimster: / received about
twenty 1--we per cent OF this claim from Whimster for
my services In the matter about two weeks after OBJ
have been put ON in the Collectors onice Whinster
said he had to give forty or niy per cent TO other
parties in Washington and elsewhere; don't think
he paid Theriot any thing on that claim.
cRoSSEXANINATloS.
To Mr.. Winslow-I live in Twenty-third street,
New York, and have lived In New York eighteen or
nineteen years excepting four years that | was ar
sea: before coming 70 New York lived in oporto,
Portugal; came to New York ISss or 1919 or there
aboats: | was then some fourteen or nfteen
years old: / do not know where l was born.
but i think in Gibraltar: before coming TO
No Il
once at opoKo; my father was merchant;
l came alone TO New York as my fathers cor.
respondent and 10 finish my education: was be-
tween ave and ten when left Gibraltar; was in
VINE house at IS New street on frst coming 10 New
went 10 cuba as . sapercargo, where / stayed
. few weeks and came back TO New YORK;
Massaao aapps osnsd esaa
many vessels al the tune: my next business
was wreski9gaouy1ns m wrecSs ana IN making what
months; IN the spring OF 1856 eft that business,
and went TO the Coast OF Africa as supercarso in
the hrg Helen, Captain Lynn; the ship took out
general cargo for coasrng-rum tobacco cloth and
tne hKe there were manacles nor CHAINS board;
did not engage IN the slave lrade was landed on
the coast be.ore the ship reached her destination
when took charge Of factory for the manufacture
charge Of it, nom there went % % the cansry Is II
Ands and olher places and finally to Liverpool: after
New YORK - ms about ISIS 81 lsss ad saSs s
totaoco business in Water street associated with
man Dy the name Of Jane: renamed there fifteen
months So when went 10 No. 80 Cedar street and
started on my own hook; my business was
sSsn Vent s00 to No. 0- ceaar @ street msso0 and
continued rne same business under the nrm OF SAN
months wnen went to sc Is Cedar street, in the ssne
business: at tAs place i stayed year so: after
seille Up nv business about this time Mr. Russell
asked me II had collected my drawbacks on tine
ssod: n had ,os@ ssppssi and tod MIN no.
would collect them he was the first man
that spoke to me on the subject; he took me
House broker; let HIM have the claims to collect
and was TO pay him half; thought up to that time
that the claims were honest: applied for certificates
OF tax paid on the goods had shipped; collected
on these claims from $1,000 70 $1,000; 1 have had
connection with these papers provided was wit VII
ness; first made the acquaintance OF Korn wher
wIa sas Gss where inv hopes ecs year
done; Korn and Wildwood were IN the once and
spoke q caldwslls giving up the business and they
oerned In on condition that they were to put the
claims through: up to this time we only had Korn,
Rrear and Wildwood; here witness repeated his tes-
timony given on nis direct as to the nrss
1t washington; next went in the Ibusi-
ness with Dickinson; he was 70 have
whimster; the nrst time had any thing to do with
hlm he came to ind out II knew where Frear was:
he said Thar 2 he and nd KOsn aad a., los, s. quite pile OF
mons something like SO, ,0o0 and spent fast as
made IL; Ihave signed three or four OF the papers
remember any particular claim that signed: was
not spoken to At AL the subject OF giving test-
me that there was something going on In these
eases: kept rumshop mp town at the time; be
IN the oficc and that they ought to be cancelled;
he came there several times and said
there was ,ssn ssDetA,ps a.,,s going on IN sssss
time 70 move in the matter; didn't want anybody
TO get ahead Of me; went to Mr. Noyes, my lawyer,
and told him wanted him to md out II there was
aaythins going on in the case; he went and came
back and said there was; asked him how could be
tOrney in the matter and give evidence, and IL
would be all right; went there and found that the
papers had been IN the hands OF the District Attor
TO Mr.. Hollis.-wllson suggested that he could re,
seals made; afterwards whinster said that II would
not do; he would not put the claims through on
papers. all OF which were forged: when Dickinson
came over to Brooklyn told him TO look at the
deputy collectors and see II they looked ike men
that would take money; he came back and said he
had the thing all fixed up
To Mr.. wood.-My first acquaintance with DicK,n-
my once selling books; being In want OF a
clerk i engaged him to get manufac,urers,
claims at commission OF three per cent ana saiary
Of twenty dollars Week; his duty 10 take ,oyer
to dickinson, awhy don't You make papers ceri,.
fying that the tax has been paid, and we will 90 into
the business ourselves ~ saw dickinson sign some
Thompson and J. y. Rogers. they signed 70 ali
papers pertaining 20 the claim where the signature
OF the claimant was required
TESTIMONY or WILLIAM W. KrssEIJ-
William W. Russell testled--I reside IN Brooklyn
and know korn. RiesenDcrger and Dickinson; 1 wa
promised commissions for procuring claims to ge
drawbacks on by Riesenberger, korn and Wellwoot
lclaim 1891 was shown witnessl; don't know th'
hsndwrit ng. the signature to the special mani
fest y mine; my signature s on the affidavit on Ihs
back Of tne manifest; none Of the merchandise
mentioned was shipped by me; went into korn
onice and he asked me 70 sign some papers 20 ge
some drawbacks; he said the papers were all right
that the goods mad been shipped; got no percent
age Tor signing; the money was never paid on tn,
claim; may have signed other papers before: Mr.
Hesenberger and others promised 10 par me; dion
export any OF the goods mentioned In these papers
but have exported others
TO hr. Winston--T took Hesenberger 70 Caldwel's
Caldwell had promised TO allow me a claim OF Il y,
per cent on al the claims for drawback should get
kiesenberger shipped goods 10 CUBA largely: 4 con
edered " perfectly fair and honest thnx 10 siQr
these papers; these are the only papers I have
signed am not 10 the habit Of beln paid for siun
ng papers; 4 knew what 4 Was siunIng.
understood that II get drawpacEs.