, 1869-12-15

nsve tometeine to e.1ttl IL and bat 1, M cun.
atNuttn 2. TtA Quesfon v net new goa, Kyeb
the Auditor. Khea We 70 to diaT oar ray, eau 10,
arts tsa1 - hsvs rot ,ssea Tie osta ae caa r.. r.
inTo 10 PEI u dol1hz. and he ought mt to, Wed
o. ald ~ come netr to u2te 4ureznment. bat onlv
ersds peei Of our sott to the people. Ale "a
have dorc thai, our tins j. spent and our duttss
o9Saa52ed- L for one. Shal tzts The oath pzss
AE TURNER, Of atepasuacn, vhsa Mr. Hs,uss
cfAsed, sssd he bA4 supposed II Aoy do1b1 nsd
n.rst haTe beco removed b thc nmsfks Of tas
gsnAeman szem Lake. and b naK inAiated upoa
IL. chURea hsd 6opea tnssa xoa,d b . fut,
debate o. this %. ssou. and he On tensood several
nsEns,. az @ IS % S3sasa g xeas -..,,--,u.>.1
noi,oa, shica VA essnted. ~ - @''
Nj. BROWNING. Of Adams. said TIE conveo-
fton had al The etrthntes q the power Of the
veutent for them taus 70 assemble, and IL plses
thereof hey kend ~ hsra The lAz1slstuza had
isonS pov I'D duns so bu@etss III as Ia S1peo neS
Ehat should Be done! The convention hss po set
Of i. oWn. spd what y E9opoaes 70 DO now u
thaa, and Lot b. vtltne or Tho act ol ths Legtsa-
tpta. Tbs was the implication OF The debate. We
II sr'1f,o, Fsaaa, By ~ T.. ossa to support
what right then, thi6 ostn h2a the fufue cIsimed
~ hs4
unwilling 70 do anything 10 defy il Nor VA Il
eaa ii ssa no nosens
he wished 10 present the folio wing oEbslsQte ior
the 9ohsulate, vhsen be hoped wonsd obviate III
.aTnas viii support the Consultation Of tho
United btstes sof Of tt4 BtAte 70 far - It's pf1-
ytsfons are compa:ihie win and applicable 10 ny
Il 4 T mi ar SAStf11
LOB. ztd lhat will flikhfally dlsct2tge ny duties
st member oi said Convention"
u TO ssssps ~ s9sssss
sbG ORIGINAL resolution aud oath Il ras read Is
e.ta lsssa ap 10 osh saaaisefsd Il ns
r. s1sh en DO se!s, ~ sTe.s - = supst
and 10 f.ltifailJ diss., dq;iz yaas etnee :;
He ssd !. seemed rs il III fs ousht IS be rattsued
with the AMENDED resolution He did not regard
acf cfnses!.on urdtr ~ organized government as
dhik the Leg'tlztu,e copId c'rcumtcs1sc tho pow
RE OF the :eSs entsan; bot when = Csnsytunpunt
Convection Is called ludfr wnsten conas,tutton
which ptUEides lor Its own Amendment, then that
rs object, and all auch !: has most
tn,s BODY pdtee.sed la, IN the present consssta.
t;ons "a ,he aes Of TIC IeEs,asur- vnaso valid,s,
tsklIG The oath from DsheF sources tnan tnc leRs-
latlye att IL kaA a. nAsh eInlnenly proper u BE-
,.sen hy al leatla:,se nodtes II: VA sran9 -
t1e Iea,siatuFs It.eii nessa the 1e!olu:
/, laed to. % 1ns truth s' Wu It inas - tae d.
/ Afrunent Of the gentleman ftom Adams vas iae
I snou'u not allow him 10 extend privileges 10 hia
slthol!c suhJrciA lie concluded taAt, 70 far 81
Rny rTo.ss on q thc act u the Le9talsturo Wal
1o s 20 fs4 Il usa e ss pase ans %
wert TO FAKE 70 toe chsrxe that sm mating au
uniar} sriIke and ptcladicsal appeal 70 a scno
attention 10 hi ssSusn@ni @ x sna.osI. Ths Lesss
iaturr cnlld nut IA. It's hand On tie constltutiou
n anJ WAY, snspe. Ct nanneI. bas' Eha. u oul
| SIP: 10 Oh. III rate, not 10 pespttuAte. Wnat enc
can be attained oJ etauminE this oath doan tht
IL: But d:d not T,se to mske m srsunept bo
OIL! 70 r1pote the folly Of tho nrg1nent Of lhs
| EeLtenAn from SanQaEnoD.
! MI. IEDIL14 ol Cook. wish 10 INV Hord q
Two upon 1hts question. hold that Ill the po aer,
| We pokacts ert derFod from tho eIlattnR cora /
tuition. ehlca denrea and pEeecIlbes our dut1es
that We have no stA1ufe unth&ce OF the Conks.tu
MOL Of tie 6'att, but as q convention created b.
yis:ne Of the constitution. For thus purpose thi
6s 'ets.s eRssxsa roae T.a bsos Rs
Is coIfeHed the autno.ity 70 submit the qocst.o1
.. Ss!Gng M convention -. 70 ~ people
l"otts to certain limits In one respect they ar.
endowed with larger orefa tna1 the convention
hcarse they caa t2ke the inieative. But tut
| rody caLnot c2tst without thtE consent, an
I therefore cautot tate the Initiative. This bods !
| the JOINT production Of the LegislAtuEe and th
es e5 5,Snx n
tx's'ence unoeG the constitution, il body Of del
| eeated roR err, ordered to perform specific act
rropo.ea o.t 1r pineise @ H earssses ID II tie % ot'o
OF ~ searft'g to support tnht which We proposed
.tclate. We ire actually supporting It in tho yer
slltutlun pFortdek that We snail Improve and bel
tcr II, rot Impair CT desuoJ It. II VIC refuse !
re t.
regard 10 taxing the oath. the constitution Us vet
explicit But # Ia c1ntcnded that a Eemnerah.
n n, 'nes o1,a.on Sse' nSs aelsaase n ess q II
cGayenuon Is N orsser IN the same sease With
ntn her Of the General Assembly. Toe same col
| ties Of tact, and neither have auy authority
act outa de Of thzt which IL cunferTE1 BY InAt Il
a'sunenr. II the Constitution glses 70 dc!eset,
, I lsTGcr poFe1h than TO menben OF the Ascend
delegate 70 convention holds IN once An olnt
utoo % as,aual. % Sy lie peopSs. dseet; I Or % sadise
" by vutue ef The antnontJ OF the constitute
ard with po.era and dulles prescribed bJ to
here IN defiance Of the constitution : Have Y
been delegated hero BY a mob or body OF tnsu
se1 ~ ee1e e on ou oxn naa
: potptment7 Arc %e voian.-effJ OF / priinnx
; eonIeDtlon: i 70 then We an not o1leers, n
hold 70 once. So IA. thsn, hon tyins oor han
+ IN potl1lon to that which He pTnpost 70 vtolas
H. ~ ae,qally sggpoztins I: u tho mann
susneDt& VI hold no otnce. II nc hare 90
.ttututs We IN thetE odaoefs. axents or attorney
e !. sen nsts e 2, d9 ;n spasa 1ao Ed
Q | not nbore either tie constitution OF the Peop
y k Tie eerTart greater than bis naaatesf We sll
/. eoff, and ps1poss for acceptance aaaendment4
! she extEt!nx ca1AtIanon- should No 0ndeztA
to nsAte this committees work Enal and conples
i | ant proclaim i the new eon2tSutoo, wt.ho
10 ~ e aH aHgas1s5 rep
III. HAws, Of Coot, rtsned tn coat,nae tho arg
!. neht Of tie gentleman from sAngAmon, bnt IN
s o,6sIen! siises,ua M Tne Convention was not =
II subject To The Constitution Of the United State
: II tneJ had no ofga11zed Eorcrpmcns II wortts
!. Dc done d 10 ae cone ucder M sps m e1isiing ssa
a Conattustop. We naJ alter anrai aad rt1t
0 OF We msT chstas It enttrsl1 md
4 u osa sas p5HeA 9nae1 what o' .stteae e a'a'
o the consultation vas the poser Given The Ieess
< sso aees, .s ss
+ asy Icd this convention ne tue. then Il n
d o.na :as People sno n ~ M. hn =, ~ ne ayd!
tuition provides Tor the sssennh.lue Of tbs BODY
Lot ne ;ae bss,S q: ef - rnssag
d Al 1t. tusy. j. nhs 10 faIsuer power. Wnsa
n set here, Ne can make our own rales, scbie
VI, I, the constitution. The Le9,slatuRe in IT.
. And u II Eight fr11c apart n ghc1t not frame
Ia HLtle: He could mud To power in the cousu
usarp Sn tae a msa. ,ss fs. L
J. ca1hlt thir. Why not other telt-ostas: "
Il not make condition 10 swesr allegiance 70 so
e religious belief For oEe he would be tie last
y IrfnEc to submit this new constitution to the peo
Tor rzutcsuon. hatif he d!n not % choose
3e is,nre, ior he les,.sse 20 could IL ,rams ~
Id ennPel1n tbs t-hrnission CT tbs wko;e. then
ot | m:.sht Tbs. Il part What mas me seqaenc
Il. rby. tnAt The rcnAi.der sas law " nc: Of
H. Nj. HANNA. OF Clinton, pserc.ed TO III,
ID Epop the rrey,ous qnest,oo. bar RaTe uay 10
IL Gel nsted r.th The constitution,
4 o15sS ,6 ,e NJ .,d Ganra
Iot LITE, words Tne laaia queat,oa was 81
they ,ske toe oath Of a1lea,atee TO the cou1u
|uI sesioaa d tas 1s,ors q IL ,Ss ooont1y. Some a.
he stese had been reEo1uttoEArJ. some tem1 rsst
O.. t.oLar7, and others regular, legal cora,rtntto
~ .c:t.l nom It, tnst - II. Webases hai ssil !.
u peurle coold not oplJ nsnd thetr eon.entsoo.
"a cosM hlno lhemseixss "a .ssa Enlcss VI. !. !. d
oi 90 Ht held thar The cons tit1ton ttself,as vel
~ ths ass ot Tho Legislature, compelled them
S. vi. HAYES called .ne gentlemen. asseut,o:
r. the ae3,on Of tne convention Of !sa', 2nc aaee
On | L1e F1eNt OF kue 1n1oef4 OF l1A Tety etn1t
| tlcn opnot not to bare 1ome weight
e. Nj. PARKS Ea4d that Il ~As within The
b. twenty 3eass that rev views bad prevailed
on thA subject. aud slbce har une the people
mt | d.scnFered The dauPet OF Conventions oyer.ss
.n- pl1E Their rights. he cautioned Teoklel
kea h8No1 VIOLATING ihe poppie1 VII, Gd they NC
III he supk to the ttct1Csb OF lhe p1ticaa ocean,
ne Mt. BILLINGS. 1t 2adlsop, thought the d+t
han wsnoefed trou the real point u ~. wt
Nas solely question Of power. Could the L.
IAtn1r, undT the consutulon. compel Ut 70 I
TITS C1th: Who IL tnesc1eator u tals coayear
l Could IL be that the Ier1kIASufe EA4s Look n