The New York herald., 1869-01-07


For Navy Department Observation-Disclosures. l2.s6l,o4s
Total SOS. s22, sos
1t II estimated that Of TINS sum there win
not be required for the service Of The
nscal year ending June 50, 1870 62,6so,49i
Total s6,sss.sl2
Total estimated expenditure for the
year ending June 80, 1870. t303 600 600
II VIII be thus seen that $303 0o0 900 IL the amount
asked for, and IL is for Congress TO determine how
uucl OF that sum II Is absolutely necessary 10 ap-
propriate to carry on the government. How much
ons saud win s Ss the
though believe the amount Of interest
on the pubic debt u overesumated "a, 900:
rs fixed and definite Then there Is the other amount
Of made up Of the items set out Ia
Se tns estimate Ins Question recafs bow much can a
public service II u Impossible for 10 stale
how much the first item for $46 00S 900 can be re-
duced, as the Appropriation Committee has not yet
proceeded far enough In the consideration Of the va
rious amounts making up the sum. But we shall
report reduction OF more than $780, 900 from what
and nearly 81 100000 from what Is asked To go into
the legislative, executive and Judicial bill. Pen
saons' snna aa, Indian neparfment ana army proper
the estimates. Military Academy we reduce
nearly $4,000 on the estimates. For army and
Notifications $4osi, 200 are asked and believe we
can get along with sI,5o0,o0o For harbor and
revenue improvements and public buildings,
$s,4s6,ols. In my Judgment ss,0o0,0o0 wlii be as
both OF those heads. For the naval establishment
$50 ssS, ,4l4 80 estimated; but Ia the Navy bill
already prepared this IL reduced 10 about $i6 000
which, Il is believed, viii answer every purpose
Here are some i5,000, 000 which II is thought can
be cut on from the estimates OF the total expeDdi
$sos 900 600 as Submitted by the Secretary Of the
Treasury That viii leave for the total expenditures
for the fiscal year ending June &c. 1870 s2ss 100000
Add that ~, 600 900 more for various other expen
ditures and we have total Of $3.50 900, 600, 1t
is my belief that the expenditures can be kept down
To that point. and that the government can be ad-
mnistered for that sum; and II that be done,
1t ought to be done good showing can be made.
have made no estimate In relation TO the revenue
for the next fiscal year, but for the present fiscal
year 1t appears from the Secretarys report that the
actual revenues received for the first quarter amount
TO ss and hst ae es sessetas aa & os ss
estimate OF the Secretary $341 100000. But Mr..
Wells Special Commissioner OF the Revenue who
mates mat it win reach $3.50 900, 900, being
000 900 than the estimate OF the Secretary.
Assuming, therefore, that we shall not collect more
revenue for the fiscal year ending June 80, 1870,
than the Secretary estimates we shall collect during
that time, and assuming that our expenditures viii
not exceed $3.50 900 o00, there viii be surplus Of
$57 000 900 for the year ,endng June 80, 1870 But
with an honest collection OF The revenue and with
oat any ncres o. taxes tn as We aa eSeer
expenditures be kept even within $500, 100000,
we shall show surplus at the end OF the fiscal year
tsr " wo an sxhbs ,a can a be maae
II Congress and the Executive shall act ia
harmony 70 that great end, the credit q the
basis, our bonds will 90 to par in Europe green
backs win approximate gold in value; taxes may
then be reduced and the country win enter on
career OF prosperity glory and power without parallel
In the history Of nations
Mr.. WOnD, ldem.) Of N. r., said that the House
pleasure but his remarks had now additional I'M
portance In view or the supposed connection be-
tween that gentleman ana the Incoming administra-
tory message laying the foundations for the policy
of the next administrations He was certain that he
spoke the sentiments OF the minority OF the House
when he said that so far as General Grant
would faithfully Initiate or carry out any reform
the minority would give 1t its feeble support.
speeches, not promises, not merely the curtalment
OF expenses, buf measures that would produce har.
mony and the general pacihcation Of The country,
The gentleman lMr. WashburneI had said In his
fully prepared speech that Congress had the power
to reform, and yet that gentleman and his political
parment OF the government for the last eight years
ana what ref0rIn had they accomplished or AZ
temptedf The minority had been p0werless. So far
as the minority was concerned IL would sustain
General Grant in bringing back real peace TO the
country In bringing back gold ana silver as the cur
rency standard, and in Initiating general reform in
every department Of The government.
The Pension bill, which appr0priates SIS, 250, 900,
was ordered to be reported TO the House. and was
subsequently reported and passed.
THE DIRL0MAEID APPROPRIATION BILL.
The Consular and Diplomatic Appropriation bill
was then taken up.
Mr.. Bsooxs moved as an amendment to insert an
appropriation Tor the mission 10 Rome, He ex
pressed the hope that, the Presidential election
being over and religious and political passions being
or mission 70 ROME Tast es usus ths nsaa
quarters OF art and the headq arters of OF the
great branches OF the Christian Church, and was
visited yearly by thousands and tens Of thousands
OF American cittzens.
Mr.. CovoDE, lrepl Of Pa, opposed the amend
ment and said he desired to call the attention OF the
House 10 some OF the dangers connected with the
Church Of Rome. That Church had been used In his
own district ~ an element OF power by the demo-
cratic party, " disregard OF the election laws The
Catholic school in this district was the place where
voters from other States had been congre-
gated aud II was the people OF that Church who used
signed by Jalnes Ross snowden. clerk Of the supreme
Court OF Pennsyivania, had been sent 10 the district
IN blank, with the names OF persons who had not
been la the country fve years There was not a
Protestant involved In II. They were all Catholics
nom beginning " end.
MR. WooDwARD, dem, Of Pa, said that n his
chose TO charge the ChuTch OF RoIne with
such practices II was due 10 large body OF respecta
BILE citizens and 10 this House that he should pro,
league had specified by name was member OF the
presby yierian church.
Nj. CoyopE-I said that fraudulent naturalization
papers were used exclusively bJ the Inebers OF The
Mr.. WoopwARp--I simply say that the individual
TO whom INV colleague alluded as having issued
naturalization papers Is nieiber, and
believe deacon In good standing, IN the Presby
terrain Church. tie 10 man Of the highest honor
dud lnttlllIeuce. anu any suUh dsseltiOn against
him would be treated as idle, II not
sIanderous IN Pennsylvania. The defeat OF his col
league last fail was not the consequence OF any suca
rascaiiiy, but was 20 be accounted fof other pfn
ciples than the degradation OF the Church OF Rome
or Of the Presbyterian clerk OF the supreme Court OF
PENNSYLVANIA.
Mr.. CoyopE said he had attended 70 the persons
who had used these fraudulent certificates.
Mr.. NORTHUMBERLAND had the Church Of Rome
TO do with ~
hr. UovoDs-It was the members OF the Church OF
Rome who voted on those fraudulent papers; not a
Protestant was engaged IN H.
Mr.. NOODw wAhD--lou began by charging that the
Church OF Rome did ,his fraud.
Mr.. CovoDE--I say " was the members OF that
church who used the papers. They came coffee
stained from the gentieman's district and we're voted
on by these green irlsh.n Qaughterl
Mr.. Jupp, lrepj Of ill said he would vote against
tie amendment bat not on the issue raised by his
friend from pennsylyania. With him II was not
question OF religion or Ieiie lous tolerance but
question of usefulness. lie thought there was no
public necessity for minister resident at Rome. He
did not know OF any commercial or business, or
trea,y-ilke arrangements that called Tor such mis-
sion. u was mere ornamental position Of useless
expenditure II useless expenditures TO be cut
OF they might a. well begin with the diplomatic SER
vice. tie wOad vote against the aineUdment tle