The New York herald., 1869-10-20

! cinthes defiance OF the established rules ana Gus
/ TOMS OF his mOntHtiC order.
/ 4 sECrARIAN DEBATE.
There is no use OF your talking to me-" said
clerical looking gentleman who was supposed TO be
| al Episcopal clergyman, anu who had been arguing
| with another gentleman for good half hour, While
| both seated the seats marked 'for walters
oniy;' "there no use OF your talking to me about
| accommodation, and saying that Father Hyaclpthe
may change his course before long: LOOK, ior In In,
| stance, al his answer 10 the most powerful aud
| learned bishop IN France-him OF Orleans, Dupan-
i9ap 5y name Alter that could he take backward
The gentleman to whom thus question was put
quietly Knocked the ashes OF ns cigar ana replied
i wrongn
"Wronglm,, exclaimed the other; "but he isn't in
"Thats simply your opinion, y replied the smoker.
IN wLlch'-nere he made httle bowl beg to
differ with you"
The two gentlemen were evidently only casual
j acquainrances, and the clerical Individual At
| this looked az his interlocutor for moment as II
/ haf puzzled what 10 say. He finally remarked
Then do understand yoa TO be q Catholic :"
/ II am Catholic" was the quick reply, land
good one, hope; whicn wish could say OF Father
"wel, really this is extraordinary. Thought all
Catholics OF intelligence leaned somewhat coward
! the views held by Father tyaclntheY'
'Yon were never more mistaken in your fe,n cx-
claimed the other, who seemed TO get Interested IN
his subject, and who was by this time surrounded
| by quiLe a gathering Of gentlemen, VINO had been
attracted to the spot by the dscussion land TO show
you how he Us regarded by Catholics OF Intelligence
| guarantee that so long rs ne remains in this coun-
| try not one OF them VIII call upon him, except 10
| endeaV0r To eNnOrt MN 10 LOOK Dlck the Slep lie
/ has taken and 70 retrieve it.n
"But chat doesn't prove that he Is In the wrong"
| 1T proves Just TINS, that good Catholics know
their duty which he doesn't. II he wanted to object
to hls supcrior's orders he could have done with
out making pubilc the correspondence had upon the
subject and If he desired to leave the Order which
/ was irksome To him, ne had the usual remedies
| which any member Of an Order has who desires to
| become a secular They consist OF regular forms to
| he gone through wlln Tue fact OF The matter IS
l sir, he got his head turned by his noloriety as q
preacher and you know what pride did Tor Lucter"
fnfAa (np'n
clerical looking Individual, (which consider lmlEa
teria do you not think that he Is right IN the matter
o1 crying ont against the anti-nineteenth century
spirit which WIN guide the counseis OF the Ecumeni-
/ cal Councilr
s.The spirit of the nineteenth century is q thing
| which everybody does not take the same view Of
and While there Is great deal or good In iC there IS
also great deal Of what IS bad; and III tell you this
much. that Father iIasinthe knows no more about
what the Council w; do, or intends to do, tnan you
orI. u IS all conjecture. lie cries out against q
shadow, something that has not come TO pass. If
he was 50 very sincere IN the matter why dldnt he
wait till the deliberations OF the Council were over
rnen ne could act with mis- eyes open. III tell you
care TO tax religion in this place. No
matter matter what stand as yon are pleased TO call IT,
| 1t Will in nowise ailect the faith OF the Catholic
| Church You who are not Catholics are making, 1t
l desires; and as for Protestant clergymen taxing
steps 70 give him public reception the thing Is so
ridiculous that ! wonder they don't see 1t them
| selves. DO you suppose these clergymen do this
thing because they have ut heart the eternal welfare
OF CATHOLICS, rllt tney 90 not nate the Cnurcn
| great rival to their religious theories more than
| Jney love Father Hyacnthe's sOcaed principles ~
Thls closed the dialogue, Tor the speaker at this
point bowed politely TO his interlocutor and walked
| out. while the gentlemen who had been attentive
listeners broke up into small groups, each one
| eagerly continuing the discussion winch had been
| SO abruptly terminated. There were many among
them VINO took almost the same view OF the case
that the Catholic gentleman had anu claimed not TO
be Catholics; but the majority appeared TO he the
champions OF the Carmcite monk, ana spoke OF him
| as n second Lutner.
| Proposed Welcome Of Father Hyncinthe to
| Boston-NIeeting OF Pastors Of Evangelical
| Churches.
| From the Boston Journal Oct. 1911
The Meionaon nearly Glled yesterday by pas
| torsNof the Evangelical churches OF this city and
vicinity, who assembled to consider the proprety or
welcoming Father Hyacinthe, the distinguished
Carrnelite frar The meeting was called to order at
eleven O'Clock and Rev. DR.. Hovev OF Newton was
chosen chairman and Rev: $. I. upham secretary.
Prayer was offered by Rev. Il. B. Webb. u. d. af
l ter which the chairman called upon Rev. Gilbert
| Haven, d, D., 70 address the meeting and
by brothers OF the different denominations tnat
| would be well to recognize the movement or the
| eminent Catholic Clergyman who had taken such q
stand In the direction OF conscience liberty and
Christ and that as he was now I'm this country IT
II was not known that Father Hyacinthe had left the
Catholic Church; all that they could say that
had taken very bold step and had incurred the
dspleasure OF the Pope, and II welcomed here IL
might lead him further In the good work.
Rev. Mr., prentiss, OF Hyde Park, spoke of the
Catholics Of Southern Italy for the past few years
which had been opposed by the ecclesiastical
authorities. In referring TO the Ecumenica Council
soon to be neld ne sald that according TO decision
OF the Pope, they were only to consent to result
that had already been decided In his councils Now 1t
Is understood that II this be the result OF the Council
the liberal party N condemned IN advance Liberal
men in Europe, and indeed the whole body OF Catho-
c bishops In America would be contracted In their
plans aud purposes spirit and action 1t was in
cordance with this liberal spirit that the protest OF
Father Hyacinthe had been made. lie supposed
n
Protestant, but that he Protestant IN spirit ana
tendency aud rs such they would heartily extend
welcome to ln lor recognizing these ideas.
Rev. Dr. Webb Thought the question for the meet
ing was what can we dor He did not wish to do
anything that would amount to nothing when done
and thought they should have little more light. lie
thought they should know more about who had sent
be good idea 10 address q letter TO nm. to be
placed in his hands upon arriving here and then
something further might be done.
A suggestion was made that as Father Hyacinthe
felt great interest tor our country during the late
war, he could be welcomed on that ground, and II
upon his arrival here he desired to speak for Christ
he would then be welcomed as u lover OF religious
liberty Rev. VIM. b. Wright spoke approval OF
Rev. A. j. Gordon drew parallel between Father
Hvacnthe and John Huss, and in alluding to the
course pursued by Father Hyacinthe said that he
had appealed from the Church to Christ.
Rev. Mr. Gardner, OF Charlestown, said he liked
the Ideas thrown out, but II Father Hyacinthe
coming 10 TINS country still holding his allegiance 10
the Roman Catholic Church, and to be received
by the Catholics and preach IN their churches. he
considered hun one OF the most dangerous persons
they could welcome, and that the meeting should
exercise canti.n IN requesting MIN to preach under
the auspices OF the Evangelical Church.
Rev. Mr. Mcdonald moved that u committee OF
five, one from each denomination, be appointed
with discretionary powers, 10 confer with Father
Hyacinthe.
The Cnair appointed as the committee Rev. Gilbert
Haven, 2. D.; Rev. H.. b. Weob. D. D.; Rev. ]. D.
Fulton, Rev. DR.. Nicholson and Rev. j. b. Dunn.
The names Of Rev. Mr. Prentss, Rev. Dr. Kirk,
Rev. Mr.. SCHWARTZ OF the German Reformed Church,
and Rev. Dr. Hovey were added To the committee
and Rev. Dr. Kirk was invited to act as chairman
Pcre Hyaciuthe Endorsed in Italy.
The ra,tG Cdho,tco, Of Turin. publishes the fol-
lowing letter addressed TO Father Hyacinthe by the
Marquis de vllamarina, whom that pions print de-
scrbcs az the prosecutor OF the Church Of Milan ana
the defender OF Monti and Tognetti:-
TURIN, sept. 25 1862
INTREPID APOSTLE OF PROGRESS AND TRUTH