, 1869-03-18

20 those al o1 W1oae piaLs for HE msJ nhfe
a1ce Of the a11ansements which have 80
long, and which were solemnly established.
that tht re Should be valuation Of ali the
life interesta n: fourteen year4 purchase of
the capttsi amount now annually voted;
(8ir s. Northco'c-"The annual knaount ri
Yes. it is 10 oe COMMITTED precisely - lie
interest Il commonly COMMITTED upon the
age Of the Individual That nka vafies. In
the case df the Presbyterian ministers the
amt unit Is very h1gh; IN the case Of Bishops
aid dlgultafi.s It IL lower. We .take
fourteen years, I" upon The whole. s:
different grants. We propose to treat
them substantially As lie Interests
the payment Is to be analogous to tha: made
on other liic interests, and that Is to Wind up
and cleke Ill lhs relations between those per-
tlon Of bis speech the RiEnt Honorable gen
tIemau concluded With an elaborate exnlaaa-
tton Of q scheme Tor the final extinction Of
tee Tfthc Kent Charge In Is years. Land
l,rds would be allowed, II they. choose. TO
purchase 1t At 221s years purchase, and If
under another and general operstlou.
There wonld be compulsory sale to them
Of the 1.-THE rert claEge. at rate which
won Yield ~ per cent aud, On the other
side, they would be credited with loan at
351< per cent, payable lu instalments In Is
,. .ars. The power Of purchase would remain
after the passing ogtue act, and 1t WAS also
p opposed that the tenant. should have q
right OF presumption ct all lands
told by the Commission, and
that three-fou1ths of the purcha E
money might be left on the security OF the
land. The financial results Of these opera
tlons, Ar. Gladstone stated thus The 1.-THE
rent charge would yield 500, 900 !; lands
and perpetui.Y rents, &c &c. .OQ: money.
e75o0ooC,otai, cid, ,ooo. .o6. 1he psesent val1s
o. The property Of the Irish Church. or this
the bill .wonid dis pose Of Es,a5QG0, VIZ. !;
Vested ints,es,s ae ~ OF ineumoent., s+.eo oN
0O private endowmenls, E5o,n0; build
ing cha1Ees, Ee50, coo; communication OF
3layrooth Grant aud the KeEium Douum,
Fl, lo,IOo, and expenses Of the Commission,
s-aO,cco. Consequently, there would re-
man 9 surplus OF between e7,ooo,0U or 2s,-
e'pE atteutlon Of the Rouse BY the Interest,"
Ing quesilcn-Whxt shall b done with II!
The Indispensable conditions he held to be
that the purposes 70 which the surplus was
applied should be Irish, that they should not
be religions, that they should be- dnal, aud
The disI:lon OF the find
amcn9 the churches IS wholly
out Ct the question, because II Is In copfict
with the convictions OF the people, the can
flctaone OF tnls house. aud the pledges which
nave been given. and which must be fulfilled.
The application Of 1t to education would not
tall 50 directly urdcr the bxn as tho direct
application otitto religion, but to propose
to apply these funds to ecucsttou would. In
Inc Hfst place, raise Just suspicion on the
part OF our Irish friends that We were en-
deaEoring 10 get quit Of the annual grant IL
would faun ch u3 into multitude of rel,rlous
uiticulths. and would AGAIN compllcAle The
controversy OF the National Church With the
controversy Of the uuso1yed p=oh1ems Of edu.
ea11ou. (Hear, hear.] Il has been propo:e Cd
ng 1ome to apply this fuad to public works
IN Ielahd. 1bose who have followed tho
h'st ory Of The greatest sttcmpts We msoe ID
public works in lre'aud-she history OF tie
Shannon dralIaee-*ill drd, I thlak. that
lhe prospect .ope.ed hy such proposal Az
Inis Ssa, Is LOT ~, Tta5y ay. inviting. [.tear,
he 10 ent oDb5x 5s. in pl1ss s.Dd TRsd s
htas.l In The second rlsce, 1t would SET
every part OF Ireland Mt vallauce with every
other part Ia The scramble ior the large;
possible fraction Of the money iu the third
place, 40 What you eau 10 promote equality,
~ must be unequsl 1t muSt be given to cer-
10 great degree iail to share In IL; aud
lastly. flh!s Ia 10 be given IN tho way Of d
loan 70 public works, each puhllc wore nav
log ended. and The money comiug back, II
becomes again available; thern Is no succes-
sor lnme1sateiJ entitled 10 clafa 1t, and aa
csost lnprudence and In policy. were we to
propose 10 make thls money the mesnR Of
any system Of permanent lcnd[ne which
would have the eject of opening the way
always 10 new proposals., perhaps ol The most
objectionable character, nay, perhaps euirc
directly 10 revive our present and pas: con.
trorersles about religion i'll Ireland. [tIyar,
btar.J 1t las been prop ,seu 10
apply 1t, IN some manner. 10 rali Says.
Then, ogalp. 1t would be impos.Ihle for US
~ mix lbr 1uestlon Of Irish railways With
the our s'lon of the Sa'ional EstabIIshnert
in Ireland. liicar, hear.J l know very well
the interest toai exists on thr subtle. oi rail.
Ways, Apd IT public aid to ras,ws rs In Irc.
lane but also know that that IL question
o, great dItf'cul'y spd computation, md that
our anfy nov III Ia, lnE oc'ore you ms.su'e
Tor WHICH we clsloa The credit Of d laiity, Is
to make so1ne proposal tnat is obvious and
cleAr IN its character, and that does not iu.
Ire u In The pricr solution VI ~ Of thot.
d'incuie inqulrtes betuFe you can determine
whether It cAu be sdopted or not. ffIear,
hear J ltwiiI be the duty OF Her Aa}e,ty's
t'"vcshncot 10 Rire the most careInl c..us}d.
esHtion !u Their powtr to oil proposals. that
have bcen madc with fcauect to tho 1rIah
raIsws}s, but 1t would not be their duty 10
ihvc!se thc1nse1ves Or you In lew difficulties
br mpEl!ur that subject With the subject
p scd, lastly, to apply IL In rtilei Of the
pcF rates, bus It apn:ars TO me thut such. q
proposa! would be a very Rravp mis-.
tsIe: [liear, lcar.} an Eot tho sc A.,
shocked a. the Idea that tho land OF Irr-,
1and AID The landlords OF Ireland may
derive vury considerable ,,eurGt froC, auy
mode 10 witch this flrd can he judicluusly
app.led for tho welfare uf lrriaud. I'M
convinced that tu the long run much OF Il
NUT 70 TO them. but do nos thlnk III. on
That accouit, when tJaten OF legal ohlIga.
tton has been regularly coo.titutcd-thas
sys1en Of legal obligation beipg the .atisfac.
ttou OF primary Wsut recognized In almost
| every country As incumbent uplu the people
o. the eoulitS-l do Mt think su a oi tuis
kind encht 10 be appltrd directly III relief ol
I've should DC guilty Of q great breach ol
faith ioHafd the people Of Irrlsnd." ftItsr.
hear. Alter kerbtnE the House some une
IN suspense he apnoul CID, quoting the words
Of the preamble Of Lie bill, thh! The govern.
mers had c"nelutsd 10 apply The surplus to
auter1ug Lot provided for BY the Poor Il r.
ProceeuspE to dtfat,s be alIoco,ed ELS 0E fnr
!unatic usylnms. EsUc0o year to idiot asy.
lums, EsU oo to trs1nlnx schools for the d.aL
aunt, m and o'ind, e. Gl5 , 20 ytar tor the train.
~ 00 TO county iu1rmaF1ts--in al
4Sll coo year. Nj. GLADSTONE concluded
bis speech, which occupied up 1ard Of tures,
hours, ~ poWer'ul perprat.on, WHICH was
ch:e'ee loudly End long. aud while ymp4.
thlzfpg With tacrf1cta. tbs 1rI4h clergy were
called On to mskr, be claimed Tor the bill
that, though it loyalty carried ont all his
p ctEcS, 1t treated them In q literal ind In.
dulg,Lt spirit. The task was u ne which
would test The mcttle, net only OF the govciu-
nent, hut Of every paFty, and even every
lndiyloual member, and br which the lame Of
The Htuse must Be sensibly affected tor yood
or evil J; but, uotv Tristan rtug its tuagLi ude,
he Was sanI nine !hat the close Of the cou,r3.
Ee5sJ Was near 1t hand. Mr. Dlsrarli
followed smaedsately Y, aud declsr*d,
,an Th of npGh r. e%Hpa,ss Hana.,, thar .hs opIa-
changed. that Di.establshm.nt was
p"lt:icaf error, aud Dizendowment-espe-
c'al!E Wter accompanied By &. cular,za.,on :
mere aud thcer conhscolton. Under ordinary
citcumatanccs, be should h2Te opposed the
iuirooucuon Of the bill bus, 10, king to tnc
stiaies .e o. tne country 1t the general, *hlch
shonld haze Al Opportunity Of dealing aIh
The. question Of ,he Irish Church, aud 10 the
1cti0n OF The late Government on that verdict,
~. GLAD, tone enehl not, In fsiruess, to be
pFec'uded ffom submitting his policy to the
not to oppoee the molion. but he pressed for
delay or three weeks before the secord
rcadlE. Mr. Gladstone derliced to p,st.
Pops IL 80 lung. and ulsluxte1r the secp.
1saame VA h1ed Ter Thursday fortnight,
Nfh HLich arrangement Mr. Lis1aeli *
pressed htmseIf satisfied. LeAye was then
given TO introduce the bill, md IL wAs read !
THE EXECUTION OF CLIFTON
HARRIS.
Coz fes'ion OF shs u urder Of Two " -
AttFmpt 10 a bolash capftAa Au.aun.
nen1-A II Pn.va-TAs Las,