, 1869-06-10

no elattns aeatnst England 4. government The
Enlr States haze private individual claims Agalns:
claims against the Unised staies. These ihc Eng
lnh people and government arc Wiling 10 submit
T. ~ arbitration Clarendon SAYS that England
might - well eAy that abe Nopld reject the treaty
because the holdeEa Of 1ttsh Republican bonda
might come IN under, fts tesms-. The Americans
ehon hare net abroad denonuce III. Sumner =
Ipeecb. Tate that point n tch he MAKES about
p.sckaee. Inai dectslnn IN the prize cases In =
black l. totally against htE.- The English papers
have not published and viii not publish his
vi. johnson wts veV indignant on this subject
importance or sixnlneance whatever 10 the ideas
Of the Massachusetts Scaato:. He s,a.scl e.
tr:m his seat, md valkins np and down the
''The English Government will never accede to
inch t.un hls position They have taten It and
Iesy goad peoPle, po@eEfnl people, and cannot
What do ,oo think Of : war bes*eeu England
vou'd Be the resal. Of it:'' =
"Tne result woald Be unfavotzble to us In the
ttst Place cur debts are eqna': Bat sherr viii not
Be and e1nno: be wAr so long ~ there Is any
common sense left to the tuo peoplea Dut, to
talk about It for Arguments sake: EnRlsnd WnS
snd uaa ss n ase to
contest Of the ktnu 1san she was during rae rebel
lion. Do you remember Admiral Porter's letter
nc ne e.pot = 81 ny srSs 9Rqan o. Fasse
they would give Us Canada, provided the Can7d1n
people were willing to bt exchanged; bnt do not
1a Poeaes 81 fereee seen 'en wona a
her Lat man and her las! shilling"
.Wnar DO you think AE. Motley VII, dot How
.Notley viii hare to paddle his own canoe. He
il tine fellow. bpt IS between Summers speech
and mE protocol, ~ not SEQ any middle course
for him 70 pursue. The English Government wlll
not be In a huz1J to sign treaty with him They
!eel very sore about the rejection 0! the protocol
They cannot understand the Senate. They Will
rejection oi what they would be willing % abide
sestlne !restJ Tatided becomes sreater and
by and By It Will be more n1nntEoua The power
Of the Senate IS scarcely understood abroad AT
any rate, due importance Is not attached to It"
arl1, AF. Johnson"
"Preelseiy. EvcY step took tn the matter
Was =, direction Of Nj. seward. ! EAna9ed tae
Clarendon There was not much writing about It
called on him every day and told him what
thought our people would deem satisfactory, md
shat would agree to: but DOW they Will be uu.
| willing TO sign any convention with anybody from
the United ststea until they shall have obtained
reasonable assurance that The Senate Will approve
/ IT,"
"Bus they Know Whist the United States viii
| consent to from Mr. Summers speech"
AYES; but 1t Il utterly ridiculous to suppose that
| they viii Yield 10 bis dennndA''
J "Now about this question OF bclltgtfency -
"Inat was covered IN M protocol, and ~ much
nah Government win consent TO make Why,
France recognized the South Spain t1d Il; Russia
did IT. Why !. England alone to be held Atcoont.
the why, how nbout the diplomatic correspon-
dence: Has it all been pnbnshed-t mean lhai
Which covered my protocol lmmSlatel5 aitet
] / wrote ! letter On The treaty generally, and on
The 17ih sent long despatch stndtcati1g aod
explaining It, which has not Jet, 90 far = haye
! the time Tint both he and Nj. johnson we're satls
ned With Ill that had done, and that The prutoco
a. ss lin. AsF e. e e. Tas 81: s
! Government was disposed 70 think that n hae
claims Of lts own, distinct from tho lndIsidna
claims OF Its cIt1zcEs This u1a.ie new CON pEica
| ton which hAd not dreamed Of"
"But III. Seward in 1861 insisted very strongly
that the recognition Of the South as BELL serent!
tional wrong toward the United states"
~ know be 90. bni no claim for damages aris
/ Ing under It was mahe-at least wAs not instruct
| learned the fresh demand OF tic United States
went to see Lord Clarendon. l had 4 coure1sa
Ion With him, and expressed my Willingness Il
were pressed bt the Unittd States, In whic. it wa
| aG1eed 10 submit the ctait1s thai either Eov ern
mcut might have agains1 the other to arbitration
Clarendon did not exactly reject ny o6er, but asket
l nc II did It under special Instructions 1 ealt
not under special Instructions, but lthough
| my general lnA111CIiQQ6 covered It LiAfEhucl
and | parted without arriving ot asatisiactor
conclusion 30 far As the point was concerned
then teleRfaphed to Secretary Fish that 4 coul.
get claims that either government may have upol
! the other submitted tn the same way ns the ri
I vhIe, 1ndirt11l Alabama claims, II instructed
VIII you tnstyuct. afr. Fish answered me TIM
convention was 10 the Senate, and he did no
J know. That Vould haze let Mf. Sumner CLAIM
IN, hut now It will not be considered In the ahap
presented. because It Ia e1tfayagant"
a. But suppose It Is insisted upon" "PTcsden
Grnnt will not Insist upon II, am confident
he should do Il VIZ will be the result do nc
know anything Of Mr.. Moileyb Instruction.
Clarendon says he does not know whxt they at
| and We have ouly to wait the cou1se Of eEentA'
"lIoW about the consular and naturaitzatto
tsraties7" II had no Instructions about the Con
SutaI convention, although We want one sadlJ."
England :" We'll. I Ind good eject; knot
| tnat Grimes Was not t0ere At the time. II WAS
little thing which had good eject In onctal ci1
cleA. The a1thor o{ It waa we'll known, and, o
course. The editor Of the London 1in.ea knew Wt
| Wtpte t. There was little breeze at the ForcIE
Onee about II, but fnew all the facts cont1lne
IN H. although never mentioned them to Ci2rcr
den." Ar- johnson faiked much more aud quit
freely on English aGAifs, and on the Engsh peo
pie, their pteax, their industries, &c- He gaye In
tercstng descriptions Of ndIsiduAia and OF his re
ccption BY members Of the nobility and others
but theae things boruef too closely On the sacred
ness Of private utc and are too personal for publ
] cation In newspaper columns
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