The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1869-08-22
THE PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL YACHT RACE


OF the United States in South America.
THE PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL YACHTRACE.
--~~~>~~~~~-~~~>~~-
The English Yacht Cambria Coming TO New
York Contend with the Vessels Of the
New York Yacht Club for the Possession of
the Queens Cup.
Below we give the correspondence between Mr..
James Ashbury, the owner Of the English yacht
Cambria, and Mr.. H., Morton, secretary OF the New
York Yacht Club, relative to the proposed nterna-
tonal yacht race for the possession OF the Queens
cup won by the yacht America in 1851, and at pre-.
sent held by the New York Yacht Club, subject to
certain specified conditions. There is still slight
disagreement as regards the vexed question of
measurement; but, providing no march can be agreed
upon, the Cambria is offered the option of sailing
over the annual regatta course OF the New York
Yacht Club for the much coveted prize. Should this
meet MIR. Ashbury's approval the Cambria will prob.
ably leave England for this city about the 27h
Instant and there is not the slightest doubt that
her owner upon arriving here win be accorded
hearty and a friendly welcome by our hospitaple
yachtmen. The following Ia the correspondence
above alluded to which will fully explain ITSELF
No. SUSSEX PLACE,
HYDE PARK GARDENS July 20, 1859. e
HAMILTON MORTON, ESQ.,, Secretary Of the New York
Yacht Club
to hand, but an almost continuous absence from
England prevented my replying sooner.
thank you for your communication ana the en-
closed certificates, giving the respective Custom
House tonnage of the yachts Dauntess and sappho,
and now, for the information OF your committee
House measurement OF the Cambria, which shows
her to be 104 S6.l00 tons a. against 1873 Royal
Thames Yacht Club rule. formal certificate
yOu. ! take due note, ! am not to consider that
either Of the above vessels must be looked upon as
New York waters for the possession Of the cup won
In 1851 by the America. This statement, however.
be on the basis Of my challenge Of the 81 October
lses which clearly specifics Royal Thames Yacht
cup nd meas1remenf with ten ana half margin;
these vessels are not eligible for the cup
race. Long after the challenge was given was adj
vised by your correspondence that the measurement
must be made by the Custom House rule Of the cOun-
try to which the challenging vessels belong. We
arc, therefore, at variance upon the mode OF meas
urement, and such being the case I give the New
YORK Yacht Club the option OF measuring your
Yacht Club rule or the Custom House rule, by which
the latter has been measured; and give a. before
margin OF ten per cent. consider can claim for
both vessels to be measured by the Custom House
rule by virtue Of the condition in the letter to the
New York Yacht Club, sth July, 1867.
AZ regards the Cambria sailing In New York az the
representative vessel OF ian organized yacht club"
beg to inform you that hope to have the honor Of
sailing 10 New York waters under the Royal Thames
Yacht Club dag and q formal certificate 70 that
effect ] have the pleasure herewith to enclose. In
the event OF the Cambria winning the much coveted
behalf Of the Royal Thames Yacht Club OF which lie
ls Commodore and to stipuate that 1t shall be held
as challenge cup: open to any royal or other first
six months notice IL gwen and the course not less
than 300 miles in the Cnannei or any ocean.
II hear from y0n by letter or telegram that these
conditions are approved the Cambria Will be pre-
pared to leave for New YORK on or about the Nth
Of August.
Requesting your usually prompt attention,
have the honor 10 remain, faithfully yours,
JAMES ASHBURY.
Two enciosures-Royai Thames Yacht Club GER
tfcate OF representation and Custom House certih
cate OF tonnage.
COPY OF TELEGRAM FROM MR. JAMES AsHBuRy,
received ct 10 Broadway, at i've minutes nss. nbe
70 n Mr.. A %osTo r. NV ssSy' York
VIII Cambria he allowed to SAL your champion
schooner for the America Cup on nasis Of my letter
81 July 2Y ASHBURY, London.
CORY 0f REPLY COMMITTEE OF NEW YoRk
YACHT CLUB TO Mr. ASHBURY's rELEGRAM.
NEW YORK. August 20, 1869.
TO JAMES AsaBuRY, ESQ.,, London:--
The necessary preliminaries having been complied
with by you, upon your arrival here you have the
right provided no match can be agreed UPON 30
sail over the annual regatta course OF the New York
Yacht Club FOR the Queens Cup won by the America.
You win be heartily welcomed, and will nnd
this club prepared now, az always, to maintain their
claim according tn the conditions upon which they
accepted the cup. These have been received by
you, and your letter OF July 20 does not entirely
form to them.
GEORGE L. SCHUYLER
MOSES n; GHiNNELL, Committee
H. MORTON, Secretary New York Yacht Club.
We append the letter written by the owners of the
America presenting the cup 10 the New York Yacht
Club and defining the conditions which must ever
attach to IT.
NEW YORK. July s, 1861.
To THE SECRETARY OF THE NEW YORK YACHT CLUB:-
SIR-The undersigned. members OF the New York
Yacht Club and late owners OF the schooner yacht
America, beg leave through you to present TO the
ROYAL EOWps
gust o. 1851.
This cup was offered m prize to be sailed for by
yachts OF all nations without regard TO difference of
tonnage, going round the Isle OF Wight 1.-THE usual
course Tor the annual regatta OF the Royal Yacht
squadron, and was won by the America, beating
eight cutters and seven schooner yachts which
started in the race.
The cup IL offered to the New York Yacht Club.
subject TO the following conditions
Any organized yacht clue OF any foreign country
shall always be entitled, through any one or more
OF It's members, to claim the right OF sailing match
for this cup with any yacht or other vessel OF not
less than thirty nor more than three hundred tons
measured by the custom house rule OF the country
10 which the vessel belongs.
The parties desiring to sail for the cup may make
any match with the yacht club in possession Of the
same that may he determined upon by mutual con-
sent; but, In case Of disagreement as TO terms the
match shall % sailed over the usual course for the
cup and subject to Its rules and sailing regulations,
the challenging party being bound TO give six
notice S nn writing !, liking the day they wish
house measurement, rig ana name of the vessel
II Is to be distinctly understood that the cup 10 to
be the property Of the club. and OF the members
thereof or owners Of vessel winning II In match;
and that the condition OF keeping open 10 be sailed
Tor by yacht clubs OF all foreign countries upon the
terms above laid down, shall forever attach to a.
thus making II perpetuay challenge cup for
friendly competition between foreign countries.
J. G. STEVENS,
EDWIN A. STEVENS
HAMILTON WILKES
J. BEEKMAN FINLEY.
GEORGE l.. SCHUYLER.
On motion OF Mr.. GRlNNELL, it was
Resolved, That the New York Yacht Club accept
the cup won by the America ana presented to
them BY the proprietors upon the terms ana con-