New-York tribune., 1869-04-01
THE ERIE INVESTIGATION

The following portions OF the testimony III
the Erie case will be Of interest to our readers:
Jav could being sworn and examined by Mr.. Nichols
O. You have read tie testimony Of Mr. Murphy A Yes
viii You state the conversations which took place
between you and Mr. Muphyf A. Just before the cleo
tion, was coming UP the afternoon to see our Bos
Mr. Fisk and Mr. Belden; Mr.. Fisk spoke 10 me FIRST
and told me that Murphy wanted me 10 make contr
wanted me to give 100000 that with that be could
the election OF GrswOd; he said he thought was bet
he would give little supper party and would give the
money himself and thai after the election was over ne
ground that had never given any money to any CONF
mttees, whatever had done for prominent individuals
were driving OF In the carriage he said that he should
down 70 the office in the morning 10 see me- IN
sentin his card in. and told him that had con-
cuded not TO give AnytLing that is all the oonversa
@ O. Dia YOU state him that you had given 10000 to
versation with him on the subject did not exchange
I'VE words with him Mr. Fisk vas present S al ,a the tRe
Thought the matter over and concluded not 70 give any
O. Was Mr. Fentons name used in the conversation
nv the Chairman-Q Had you ever given 10000 TO Mr.
Fenton, or Mr. Harris for him. or anything Of the
kind A. No, Sir; have been informed through inc
niony' and have come voluntarily make this denial
Mr Murphy speaks also Of some tetter;; NE only mote!
SRST saST agSrIHMAS IN he StGte could probably Dc
me me Ss sse fdSaS s" r sS SSsf G reeeid ne %cS
nation u0d contribute tieeny thousand dollars to,odrd
election teh letter Igare han; that Is ne only eAer
Q. When was thati A. That was last Winter.
O. understand you that you did not give this sum, or
any sum, for the of Gov. Fenton, directly or md
reetly at any timei A. Yes, Sir that s what L say !
had always understood from the first that Gov Fenton
was In favor OF the Dill
James Fisk, Jr, scor1,-By the Chairman CMr Hale).-
O. You one Of the Directors Of the Erie Railway A.
o. Were you present at the interviews spoken OF by
Mr. Gould between Mr.. Murphy and Mr. Gouldi A. Yes,
O. Did you hear what was said between themi A. Yes
Sir; heard the most Of it; was close to them.
O. Please the substance OF the conversations A
Before the interview, Mr. Beiden whom Mr. Murphy re-
fers to- who was partner OF mine under tine hrm OF
Fisk, Beiden 4 Co, and is q member Of the Union
League came to and wanted TO know what position
wo were taking recording te Gonng % election d & Gr GGy
ica matters and knew nothing about them Belden said
that at the Club the evening before they had been say
sum OF money to the other SIDE and that Mr. Murphy
was coming 70 see MI Gould to prevail on him to 40
was two three days after that at the
boats, and Mr. Beden came In with smoothfaceh gen
tleman, whom he introduced to Inc Mr.. Mnrphy Mr.
Murphy took me In one corner very cophdentiy, and
said that he had got the right arm Of power on his side
ep % SO much as to Join US With him. 50 that he could be
Of assistance TO US he seemed TO convey the idea 70 me
that 10 cement that all understood that
were to pay 100000, IN return for which were
70 receive great dement's from the Eep1bican
sMr. Murphy, don't know anything about IL think
the whole thing T. set up JOB from beginning to end
OF doing such Q thing;'I while we were talk
introduced Mr., Murphy gtc MFR. Gould, and, be;
fore ne talked with him took Mr.. Gould side told
hun what Belden had told me- upon that Mr. Gould sat
down, and should think he talked with Mr.. Murphy
about i've minutes after which We went out into tile car
rlage and droys away we started to go away. Mr.
Murphy made the remark that he woud call again the
ocei in the morning about 10 O'Clock we were IN our
front room and MT Murphy es@e % in alone Mr. Gould Sd
speaking that he could not do anything more about It,
and turned on his heel and walked away.
Q. Was anything said by Mr.. Gonld regarding having
given any eum before A. No, Sir; Mr. Murphy had said
10 ne that he understood that Mr. Gould had given $780,
900 to the opposite side told hm was confident II
entirely \ mistake
O. Did Mr. Gould claim in the conversation that he had
given 10000 for Gov Fenton any other Republican,
A. Mo- there was no mention made OF anything Of the
kind.
Hamilton Harris. sworn--By the Chairman (Alr Halo)
@. You are y counselor-ataY and reeide 10 the city
a. Yes, Sir.
O. You have acted counsel for Mr. G0ud and for the
Erie Railway A. Yes Sir, for over year past.
q You have read the testimony OF Mr.. Murpbyi A.
Yes, Sir. .4 ~ - III - -, = aiJ
9 Please state your knowledge concerning tho matter.