The Portland daily press., 1869-09-22
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@. Did you understand English well enousoo
to understand everything that was sa'o
A. All that heard understood Won
Mr. Bradbury addressing the wIthe. 80
scamp. YOU are making disturbance up mere
in my house; you shall be put gu. s anu eseu w
an oi,cer 10 Interpreter-Ask him II he I'M
derstood what I said lnterprsess ea says
Won smoke about your house or ounce.
q When Murphy was dragging the man as
yoT sov what was the relative position of the
fhreeS A. 1t was like this: Murphy had hold
of this unknown man (Murry) under the arms
standing a little to his back and walking on the
LETT as t6ey were going to the stairway. Shea
was at the right. L am unable to state whether
Murry's feet were dragging or not. Did NOT
see Shea take hold of the man. Murry's head
was hanging down.
Direct resuned-Q. Whether or not dur-
ing the continuance of the struggle he saw the
man he did not know ATTEMPT to break omen
any doot! a. From the time he first saw
him until he lost sight of him did not see him
take hold of any door.
". what did he hear the man be did not
know say? A. In EnoIisb-aT want my
wife; want to see my wife,
". What did the Clerk say to him? A.
gu got no wife," that is all 1 heard him say.
"; ASK him to repeat in English word for
WORD what Murphy said. A "Hold on; hold
Peter Welch, called by government, sworn,
testlhed-Reside on Congress street; had
known Patrick Murray somewhere from twelve
to fifteen years.
Q. When did YOU last see him? A. /
guess it was Ola O'clock on Friday evening
That he was injured he left my house. There
is one house between Mountiort street and my
house.
@. What time did he come to your house?
A About five minutes of six, as near as L can
get it.
O. Had you seen him before that day? A.
saw him on Thursday morning about 10
O'Clock sitting on the steps at the door of his
boarding house, Bradley's hotel, and he went
up to my house with me-
Q. How long did he remain at your house?
A. One hour or an hour and q half
q. Did you see him again on Thursday? A.
Not after that.
O. State whether he was drunk or sober
when you saw him on Thursday A. Sober.
c. How was he on Friday night? A. Sober.
When he was at my house he drank about two
swallows of gin, nothing else. never saw
him again after Friday 1 was at work on the
''Carlotta" at the time he was sick, and could
not go up. He was married man. l was
acquainted with his wife; saw her last in Hal
ifax, think about three months ago.
Y. How old man was hurry? A. Cannot
tell. l should take him to be about 2S or 20.
q. How large man was he? A. He was
tall thin man, stood about feet and 10 inch
es, or feet. He worked at the tailor's trade;
never knew him to be in any other business
When saw him on Friday night he was per-
fectly sober. He showed me the needle and
thread stuck in his vest, and said it would
take him some time to get his hand in, for the
work was different here from what it was in
Nova Scotia. He was a taller man than Muir
ply, but lighter.
Gross Eransined-Q Where else did you
see Murray in Portland? A. No where else
but at my house and the hotel.
Q. Had you ever seen him on board the
"Carlotta?' A. Yes.
@. When was that? A. Coming up ON
the passage from Halifax.
@. What was his condition when he was on
board the "Carlotta?' A. The same as any
man when he was on board.
.. Doyou mean that? A. Yes.
Q. Was he not intoxicated when he came
on board the "Carlotta?' A. He was.
G.. Did he fall on board the "Carlotta?" A.
did not see him fall.
@. Did you know of his falling down the
hatchway? A. No, sir; I was at work on
deck driving the donkey wench when Murray
came on board. 1 heard he fell down the
hatchway when he came ON board.
@. How soon after he fell down stairs did
you see him? A. One of the wheels
came and asked me if knew him, told him /
did, he said he had some money on him, and
If 1 knew him, to go and take the money
and went down. 1 says, "Pat, will you give
me your money, and I will keep it for
you until morning" He said no. I am
able to take care of my money myself and
will keep it. He was lying in the berth at the
time.
q, What time of day was it? A. Do not
know whether it was forenoon or afternoon
1t was in the day time,
@. What rendered him less competent to
take care of his money than you? A. I took it
away from him in regard to his being intoxi-
Gated. Don't know whether he fell from the
hatchway down between decks, or only from
the stairs. The first heard of his falling
down the hatchway was day before yesterday.
The berth he was lying in was in the Storage.
I was told he had a bottle in his hand when he
fell down stairs. When he came ON board the
Carlotta his face was bruised and his nose was
skinned saw him bring his luggage down to
the wharf; one or two trunks. The Carlo tia
left Halifax Tuesday morning at O'Clock, and
got in here Thursday morning. When he ar
rived here his appearance was all right enough.
The next day after we left he came on deck
and asked me if had any coffee or something
to eat; that was about noon.
Q. Had he eaten anything since then? A.
He brought some victuals on board; DOM
know whether he eat them. Murray told me
next morning tha3 the passengers drank all
there was in the bottle that night. 1t was in
Halifax harbor he fell down the hatchway, and
this was the next day.
@. Don't you know that on the morning he
arrived here he acted like man under the eff
feet of delirum-from intoxicatlon? A No
sir; can't say any such thing. The man, in
regard to his speaking and manner, was just
as sensible as am. When I met him at Brad
ley's hotel, invited him up to my house. We
did not drink at the hotel.
@. How much did you drink at the house
A. Don't know; but it you will let me 60 out
about ten minutes can find out. He drank
about two swallows of gin; my conscience
would tell me, if said more, it was wrong
WITNESS measures the quantity of gin he
thinks the man took by pouring water into a
tumber.1
G. Why did you notice in particular the
l. 1AlrO
more; he said it was enough; he was not gong
to drink any more while he was in Portland; ;
he was going to get steady.
Q. And at the time he said he was not GO
ing to drink any more, he drank the gin.
A. Yes, sir. He said he was going to gather
up a little money to buy some clothing and
then go to Australia.
q. Had he not been in fact very intern
perate nah, and did he not speak of himself as
snch and say he intended to reform? A. Yes,
sir.
=. What places had you known him in be-
fore? A. Halifax and st. Johns, N. F.; only
those two places. When / knew him in St
Johns he worked at his trade 1 was told that
he was in jail in Halifax.
Direct Resumed-Q. Did you hear anything
on the passage from Halifax about his falling
down the hatchway. A. After arriving in
Portland, up to the time of his decease did not
hear anything about it.
g.. When for the first time did you hear it?
a., Last Thursday or Friday
G. Who told you? A. Peter Lawson. He
is here as a witness He simply told me that
when he came aboard he fell down the hatch
way; he was examined on the trial as q wit
ness; he is a married man and lived here.
saw Murray several times on the trip; used to
carry him down grub when he was sea-sick; he
drank glass of brandy that the steward gave
him, on Wednesday L think it was; he was
down in the saloon; did not know of his drink
ing of but that glass; the steps to the hatch
way were shifting steps to take away; it was
the BOBBY hatch; think could reach the
hatch while standing between decks; his wife
did not come up in the Carlotta; 1 heard he
was in Jail the day before we started for being
drunk; he was peaceeble man; never saw
him in any fights
Cross examination resu,ned-I have heard of
his getting into fights.
q. Did he not tell you about fight in
which his nose and cheek were cut? A. No.
sir; never asked him; his face was bruised
and cut before he fell down the hatchway.
@. Do you swear on your oath that that
man was lying in his bed or account of sea-
sickness? A. do not swear whether it was
from sea-sickness or drunkenness; he never
told me nor l never asked HIM.
O.. Did he vomit? A. Don't know.
O. What indications of sea-sickness did he
have? A. Don't know.
O.. What are the appearances?. A. Don't
know.
@. You cannot tell whether man is sea.
sick or drunk? A. No. 1 cannot; but if
should see him ashore could. do not know
whether he was sea-sick or drunk.
Direct Resumed-I saw Murraw on deck two
or three times did not see him drink the
brandy in the saloon; he told me he had drank
it after he came out; he was sober on deck.
oss-e1anained-Q. Who do you know ina
was an acquaintance of his? A. Edwin Cam
ho xrorI-s tho TAILORING huSjraSS nm town