New-York tribune., 1869-04-17
Dnring the debate on the Message, Judge Folger
took occasion to defend his party against the asper
- of the Democratic Press He said:

pnrirv the debate on the Message. Judge Folger
- occasion 10 defend his party against the asper-
';ons Of the Democratic Press. He said:
,1 PRESIDENT: There are several messages from his
llov tbe Governor which have been by motion laid
ee.hn iabe and there remain unacted upon by the
uIV. Tbpy are messages returning 10 tlls body sun
STy bills passed by IT, without Inc Signature % 9f the Gov
ve ma fully concur W th the President OF the SEN
ae 10 his ruling the otner uN ,s 9IS puS W Us - U' M 10y 10y
ne words Of the Constitution compe!ied az once on the
on of veto message. 70 proceed 70 the reconsider
TO- ~ the hin vetoed And also yield qualified con-
alton IN the spirit Of lis remark, that 1t would be sal
CIV the rule was that there should be compulsoh
vnon this body 10 proceed AT once 70 SUN % on'
n this body has seen ne 10 go umOuSn 20 tnH y r" a.
imsntary forms OF cnacng any mea sure lnto IaW' IL
owes to the subject II owe y. 20 ~ iSS Enrt TDS
f bo cannot yield his assent TO the enactment ana
gives his reasons therefor tha the SUBJECT @ sn9E as
be taken up. aud those reasons cons!uo1eI "a @u % tj
and c0ncurrcd in or dssented irOm' ana wiz S
should not bo long delayed yet II uoes seem len b e
that Legislators 10 whom those reasons may & ooD1tfed
not new such they have opposed ana con con s, 6
Scp6 have some space OF time 10 consider thelh anu "
review their own position DelOe No'nE ~ ms nav not
dissent from the veto OF the Governor but lnls 3 n3 ~
be indefinitely delayed. The Consttuto & SayS 'r gsons
Senate shall proceed 10 leeonSdei anu % , rs esrv
mirht be given why tins should nc one az u"5 , S 80
as practicable. 1t can be seen thS6 S d tRr is the
comes in there Is the opportunity Ior anu t ,bS de
tpndency combination oi interests 70 t - -
frent vetOes, and the uSuai result OF 10 6y
tb eo6pcraton Of tho friends Of eaeh which IL uepeh9
ept for favor upon individual merit would DC IDe%soH %
So that the true end to DO attained Is l9I suvu Ti
SsWi suffice for the formation OF Wen consiusrS1 - -
nd
interests suffer the matter 70 le Iio lio Illu V & wy
TnSisloture And, Mr. President IN addition 10 thesS
general considerations, G,d 'i m had riihout enchened
delav read IN The Albany argus OF TINS Me,A, WHEN
paper take to be the 9Ical IN st ieasg tho re-
}ren or detector Of the plans ana purposes OF tne
Democratic leaders, that theie ae sSS IN U f'1 S
tween the representative body aad me E&ecuuNc Ia'
Imav be entirely accurate read from ths EeNepdpCt
sTiers agns that COZ aet is g. come tes.eea s9e .e
tls reduce the 1o'rEoI o. @ ~ - 81 srj yirin
-: l o & Snl tie wrong nan the wrong place 20 sso
% G ssssi f. In such eon Johl foamsn will stand a. he
h,i sf e people ard these combinations wi Pc estieIs- s &
t Si We the development Of this movement Win ne'
~, s1t wi.hou; fear ia.
street railroad BILL brought into the senate ana paseu
tbrough IL under Democratic auSpeces-as tLS eIuC.c
deals I'M It's scope entirely with the queSon Oi e grant
ipg Of franchises for city street raI9aIS aIu 80 a.. -
t session these franchises certainly the most bSaHC
Of them all have been originated ana pushed Dy 'le R
aYiry Is az once suggested: Is there mutiny in the
Oeniocrac campl Is the iaEcItG S'aHUaIu-Lc-'e. %
Democacy-is the favorite sandardbearer iIalnmany
70 be depOsed Does the astute qua eay
Of The Argus see conflict arising DeGWeen Io ia an
elected Governor and his heretofore submissive anu w
psudng iollowersi Certainly It is not the Eepuiu
Executive for his approval measures Of tIanehiee
vbeh are 10 trench upon the nehis OF tnj % b.
and OF the City Of NewYork Certainly II Is not the ne
D1b,icaus Of ihs body who have given signs Of TINS
conflict TO come" which is 20 make The Governor wv
vd victim" II such conflict is TO come II such demo
frani ia 10 overtake the Executive his power and his
prsFogatye it must come from the Democrats OF thls
biy And il behOyes Mr. President. the adherents OF
e Constitution and the supporters Of the just peroga
ves and power Of the Executive department TO take an
early and strong position, and 70 deliver, raiher thah
Tait for battle l. therefore Mr. President, move 10
take from the table the several veto messages OF INC
Governor. that may fix an eaiy day 70 PIyoefu 70
With motion make al the veto messages OF inc Gov
ernOr special order.
Mr Murphy replied to Mr. Folger, arguing that the
Republicans held a majority in the Legislature and
we're responsible for its legislation.
The Senate Committee on Municipal Affairs have
cut down the amounts in the tax levies. The fol-
lowing arc the items in the city levy reported by
q ,nnll IL 10 (n-,,rnfta.