The New York herald., 1869-09-17

yamoneurs are bound to visit foreign chimneys for
the transaction Of their duties. 1t does not seem,
so far that the noble Count has had any cause
to regret his decision since he occupies the first and
most difficult position in tho new Kingdom VIZ,
Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary, In which ne
has speedily reached q European and American CO.
lcbrity even as the successor OF Cav0ur. He ID the
readiest debater In the Chamber OF Deputies, and.
although no Is not possessed OF the prestige or
sledge-hammer sarcasm Of Count Bismarck, he Is
still on par with the latter for clear argument and
piquans humor. His utterances always attract
marked interest and attention in and out OF the Par
lament He entered the Sandman army at an early
age. in the Engineer Corps. and. thanks to his &C.
quirements AMI mathematical powers (he is noted as
one of the most distinguished methsmaticians OF
Europel he soon reached the highest grade In the
corps and as General OF Engineers was the pride Of
the Sandman army. He fortified Turin hastily In
1852 when the cavalry came within an ace OF taking
Victor Emanues palace before the arrival OF the
red pantaoons. Subsequently he was Minister OF
the Navy in 1861, and since the Montana analr In
1857 ne has occupied his present high position, for
which he seems to possess decided liking and
some Of the most important and suitable qualities.
His enemies and rivals are legion, but he man
and evinces tue nrmest disposition TO hold
stated the other day that ne would not withdraw
merely to give place 10 other persons for all the talk
ABOUT ministerial crises ana clamor Tor change
amounted only to an intense desire on the part Of
those persons to step into his slippers. He Is IA
vorite with the King who leaves everything to his
decision IN personal appearances zee 1e & o. % medium %
slque; fine, oval face, OF rather dark complexion;
well drawn features, brownish eyes. OF serious
be termed striking but his department Is eminenty
that OF the dignided gentleman. Judging from hs
looks tone aud acts one would say thas ne pos,
to obstlnacy, but little b0ldness OF character.
From the general tone Of his remarks
stars and mission, as much as the next one, even
be ne q COrslcan. He seemed to think the whole
work and rejuvenation OF Italy rs mere question
OF time, not the work OF day, to quote his words.
found him seated at mis- desk, with my note before
him; and my entering, he rose to receive Iue IN
the polite Italian method.
now proceed to give as accurately as possible,
in the same words used the chief topics OF our
cOnversauOn:-
MINIsrER--You visit Italy after long absence
(eight yearsh and must fnd great change at
Turin, Milan, Genoa. Many changes in various re.
spects have taken place since that date WITH you.
als0, many changes have occurred. suppose your
fortunes are being rebuilt DO the blacks work
wes do not SUPPOSE they can ever 60 beyond q
rights with the whtes' How does the crossing Of
the two races actS l imagine that the result Is
greater strength OF eoo race NOW tn that your
Is constructed. its benefits must be immense; yours
is an immense country and an energetic people; no
doubt they have little time TO be occupied with az
fairs in other countries being SO absorbed at home.
Here with US the country Is limited; that Is our
drawback when compared to yours
America to cast glance abroad, and especially In
New York the great daily newspapers occupy them
state Of your fnances, winch they set down as too
heavy for you to bear conveniently.
MiNisTER-Und0ubtediy these are the two great
questions with us. But the army is not a bG too
large it Is absolutely necessary. In The first place,
1t has been largely and remains the instrument OF
N 1hprQ NQQDOliCapa Tugcaua- IN
hitting to iSs rrasernizing and discipiinizing
influences they become Italians, have q common
ever II Is school In which they learn TO read and
write. IN which they become afterwards instruments
OF civilization for all Italy. With you common
all sides. 1t cannot be said that the sums, though
vast which spent for the army have been or are
wasted; for they all are returned IN direct benefits to
the country. Besides we 1--we next door neighbors
to colossal Powers, armed to the teeth, ana n we
were not armed We could not hold our own ground.
Then again brlgandage and disorders do aud will
exist owing the TACT that the interior OF the coun
try has never been adequately developed, large
they are corporation 1efs winch the law has not
touched. whereupOn dwell those VINO eventually
These evils could be extirpated by diaconian
measures, but we do not wish to resort to them,
preferring rather TO adopt the more moderate and
slower course OF maintaining force to keep them
under while leaving their final removal to the In
nuences OF time In regard to our finances, we can
not but ADMIT that expenses are heavy, but they
are also necessary for the country our resources
are Increasing with the greater and improving de-
veopment OF the interior Of the country and general
trade, and before long our taxes may be curtailed
they are not heavy as in France and far less ex
cessive than with you. Public works have cost o
great deai the Mount GEMS tunnel has cost 5000 900
francs per kilometre Il had mentioned my visiting
it); 1t goes on 10 speedy completion, notwthstand-
ing the original objection OF savans aud otner
difficulties. When is opened one OF our
great difficulties In a commercial view will have
Disappeared for hitherto the Alps havs been our OBJ
stacle as well as our protection. We have Just in.
fad a largo m Hpcfa M
Spezia. They were necessary for Italy, as foresaw
Count Cayour. am sorry that you were not there
to see the Inauguration. Not long since passed
along the Riviera to Sayona q told him had been
there and seen the shipbuiding, which apparently
0utstripped anything we had In the metropolis just
at present), and l counted $50 vessels, large and
small, the maritime docks in course Of c0nstruc-
tion You this prosperity is due TO the Genoese
energetic aud commercial folks by right Of old ira
dition. We are getting along in maritime point Of
view very well, tnen and the interior development
OF the country Will produce vast results but these
time Is required. Our manufactures and trade are
gong ahead, and. although the people Of
the soil here In Tuscany could afford to be
q lite more energetic and Industrious, still
the old silk trade Is revivng, and the demands on
the silk fabrics and manufactures OF this province
IN excess OF the supply. The silks OF better
make than those OF France even the six unies for
pure silk enters into the fabrics than ELSEWHERE
Then again the same revival IN various branches Is
going on IN the other provinces. In Naples and
Sicily, where the people have had very few advan-
rages owing TO the past rule there been great
0raWD8ckS 10 COnJeuu Will, anu uraQe IL not 30
ward but even there an unwOnted condition Ia being
first wrought with the incoming Of the present and
new generatlon. In LOmbardy and Piedmont the
people are far ahead In the path Of progress; the
cloths OF their factories supply us all with our
clothes; they are sold to US for French goods but
they are really h0mespum and woven in those pro.
vinces.
CORREsP0NDENr-Mr. Count may l take the
liberty, do you wear themS DO you wear them at
present.
MINIsrER-Yes; see there showing his pantaloons
and vest OF rough texture and graysh color, with
coat also rough, but OF dark complexion. They did
look very PLAIN and h0meke, though, altogether, IL
may be said that found the Count in very decent
suit and neatly, not gaudlly dressed. rake Turin,
for instance, where you lived, and long capital
Well, when the latter was first removed there was
some repining and gnashng OF teeth the part of
the citizens; but now most Of them are recOnced,
and Turin has stronger and safer future than ever
before when she was the capital the citizens have
sturdiy and energeucaiy gone 10 work TO build up
trade, and now they have commercial prosperity
In store for them They deserve great credit
| CoRREsPoSDESr-Speaking OF the capital, which,
need scarcely inform yOu IL the great Italian ques-
ton nowadays mooted outside OF your borders, IL
Florence proud or Its new honor chief city Of the
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