The New York herald., 1869-03-13
BROOKLYN CITY.

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The Alleged Drawback Brauds-Cross.Exam-
inatIen Of Riesenberser.
Before Commissioner Jones.
The examination OF the parties charged with per-
petratng frauds on the government by means OF
false claims for drawback, Korn, Laidlaw, Dicken-
son. Wilson and others, was continued yesterday.
The cross-examinatioD OF Riesenberger was COM
peted .s
RIEsENBERGER's TESTIMONY CONTINUED.
Jerome II. N. Riesenberger recalled.
To Mr.. Noyes-lCaim No. 81 l,346, OF Chas L. Ray.
mond handed witness.l That "a one OF the claims
wnimster handed me 70 get the certificate OF
Laidaw; Il procured the certificate OF bond
fled: / have seen the draft with which tins
claim was paid; received half Of the proceeds
OF this CLAIM from Mr.. Whimster; the draft is en-
q1s.ed ~ oen ~ ths ans e ~ tb ~
payment for the claim Of A. J. Williams No. Sa,5s7.
yer and William streets, opposite Delmonico's; nc
took II and gave me check on the broadway Bank
for my snare OF IT. it was endorsed by vacig0upe;
draft NO 2,as3 was received by me in payment OF
claim; when received 1t r was Without any endorse
menu; u was % endorsed oy Vsglyoiupe, ana @ @ tlsa
OF George EbiDg on it; he paid me my share
Of the draft wltn check; Wilson endorsed
his name on the draft and gave me
check for my share; the draft was gwen IN payment
OF calln 81, lo3; claim OF l.. N. Arnold NO. 4..503
has Dickinson's handwriting; he signed the name or
q. N Thompson on it; received tile ipouey on the
Claim and DIVIDED IL with Dickinsop; draft 4d,515
was given in payment OF 56,2o5; the name of Il. Z.
exactly.
70 Mr. Hollis. Claims 81. .lso and 51,a46 were
shown witness. III procured the certificates thar tue
bonds had been fled on this last claim; don't
know whether got them Dosn VI tue same time;
went 70 LAidlaw Laree unes; ..iinA gos lour cer
! got his certificates py the amounts; they
amounted altogether to $1,000; they told me
after these claims had passed in. Washington
that they didn't want any more clallns with Laid
laws certificates attached; there was not an interval
OF over month between the nrst papers and the
last that got OF Laidlaw; do nos SnDw which two
claims ne gave me at the same tile there Is none OF
my nand writing on tnat; claim 45,oos, think, IS
apart genuine and part bogus the goods named were
actually shipped but IN Inherent vessels the coilec-
tors certificates are true; nor Eiwood and korn,
SO FAR as know, put through any correct claim be-
fore these bogus claims were put throuyn Mr. Cald-
well put through great many claims ior ma rhat
were genuine; Laiaaw signsa apoo .misy papess es
he signed Them; sent for Laidaw anu onereu 70
pay MIN for signing them; l do not Know tnat PAID
hiIn; ne owed me money which lent him on several
cinereht occasions; 1t while TINS business Was
gong on; first net Laidiaw in Broad street, In
Saloon; Dickinson brought him over; spoke to him
about whiskey to see II anything could be done In
that line; lent him money after we mad hall dozen
interviews; cannot recollect tnat \ enI nin money
before we mad auy conversation aoout furnishing
certificates; first time that Laidaw did corrupt
act was IN giving certificate ior these lour claims
OF Whlmsers; these certificates were signed &C the
desk by the window at la Flura's.
Z. What argument did you briag to bears A. We
took cocktail together: that Is the principal arsu
wit Witness"faidIaw ia % said he did not tn nix Dickinson
paid him enough; told Laldlaw that had good
man now, that mad Whmster and things would go
all straight; the rst corrupt act was in November,
1867, that Laidlaw did Tor me wnile was present.
Q. How long did these corrupt acts contnuei
A. After got these papers signed; didn't want
q. why nots 4. Because there was enough
already 10 load slip with.
Witness (a certificate shown hims-Tnis Is one Of
the thirty certificates that Laidiaw signed az one
no Mr.. Wood-DIckinson was in my ONCE almost
every day after he lett korn d Ewooo; Mr.. Dlckiu-
son signed 5ae Papess s ID No - SToaq saw "
TINS paper referring TO Claim shown mimi; Dickinson
was an entire stranger to me wnen nrst saw himi
the first claims tlaJ got were legitimate claims;
never passed any claims that Dickinson goti they
were all passed over to Korn Liwood; told
Dickinson 70 allow Laidiaw nve per cent.
TO Mr. webster--l was not interested in any busi-
ness or korn Elwood's except some claiuls that
iarnisasd; tn,nS the nrss cns ~ s.; sney put snrowgn
$1,000 or 5000; the Claims were payable TO my or
der.
ness)-J. Vincent CAMEL signed the certihcate OF
tax paid; Whimster SAID that he went to Massa-
causetts TO the assessors Office, 10 get clue as TO
wno had paid tax; it Is only by hcarsay that know
anything about the signatures; the endorsement OF
II. Z. LILY and i Z. Russell on the draft by which
claim No. 5s5s7 was paid, is in the handwriting OF
Wilson; Wilson had two and hail per cent lor
casllng tire checks he cashed; Wilson was not pad
over two and half per cent; do not know of my
own knowledge lnat ne got esen that.
To Mr. Noyes-l am familiar enough with Wilson's
handwriting to swear 1t; the certificate Of the
collector OF tax paid In claim 5l,sS6 is In Wilson'S
handwriting.
TO MI Parris-It was about month after signing
the four papers that he signed the twenty or thirty
certidc ates the thirty cerlncates got was the last
transaction had with Laidlow.
wM. W. RUSSELL RECALLED.
To MIR. Noyes-The signature To the power Of at
orney to the claim No. AZ, ,99l Is mine; koons sigma
ture Is on the power Of attorney; never acknowl-
edged the paper; the papers are fraudulent.
Adjourned TIL ten O'Clock Monday next.