The New York herald., 1869-06-12

The Lords and the Irish Church Bill.
From the London Saturday Review.J
The Reuie,U remarks that whether the peers adopt
dlgnled and courageous course and avert the i'm
puaon OF defeat by recognizing that 1t Is not for
them to struggle, or whether they grow angry ana
rush into ilconsidered and Intellectual opposition,
will in great degree depend on the tone given 10
their debates by the principal speakers. There are,
we believe. good grounds for believing that the
leaders or the House will show wisdom, tact and
moderation. The three principal leaders Of the ma.
jOrity If Lord Derby does not think fit to take an
active part, are Lord Cairns, Lord Salisbury and
Lord Carnarvon. Or these three peers Lord Carnar-
and Lord Salisbury enunciated the doctrine that o
hereditary assembly ought not to set itself against the
clearly recorded decision OF the whole nation. Lord
Cairns will OF course hold the leading brlel for the
Irish Church, and he will make an excellent advo-
Gates speech full Of statements, toleraby accurate
and Of arguments tolerably plausible. But Lord
Cairns Is not at all likely to separate himself from
M mr. the e M to n1I rid pe m
thought whether It's rejection would really suit Mr.
Disraell and Mr.. Disraeli's Chancellor. Now, what
Mr. Disraeli must think OF the Irish Church bill Is
perfectly PLAIN. He must long to get 1t out OF tho
way, and TO have done with question which arrays
ing that all his spirit Is taken out of him, until he
does not even think 1t worth while to propose i'm
fSrma Tse task Of Eora Cairns w not Se
stop the p but TO convince the Irish Protestants
done his very best for them and that IL he could not
help them II was because no one could The bishops
made their OWN but they w speas Tnder the ea
disadvantage that every one VIII know that they are
but taking line which it is necessary they should
take and that the successful men OF profession
they are saying what the profession wishes should
be SAID The mild virtues OF the Chancellor ana the
seductive good humor OF Lord Granville VIII do ali
that is possible 10 soften that victory OF a
minority which must always ruffie the feelings OF
vision o. the friends OF the bill and OF the govern
ment, and half In amusement, half In triumph
they catch up @ ana r repeat hsb the runor that the real
and vigorous adversary Of the Ministry Is TO be
vealed in Lord Westbury. The cause OF the Irish
.latfr oOf l1O do htt
be damaged, ITS ruin could not have been more
surely connded to any advocacy than that Of q man
rejection how very much better an argument he
would have found against 1t II he had but been
Chancellor Some outbursts Of bitterness there Will
be of course; some incoming dissertations the
coronation oath some whlsperngs OF panic stricken
Orange peers. But If the leaders on both sides keep
their tepers and from the outset insist the true
constitutional position OF the Lords the bill may not
only pass but may pass that It's passing shall not
be regarded by the puper house or by the public as
a defeat OF the Lords
Address of the Deputution from the Irish
Church Conferences.
A deputatlon from the Irish Church Conference
which recently held its session In Dublin, was pre-
sented before the House OF Lords on Saturday, the
2eth ultimo when the following address was
made:-
depasiion from Irish Church Conferences lately con.
I Uned Cbnre snand and Ireland
was elected S the ss,y and s of svsy gsa hrSaSn
but with full authority a. elected and delegated by the Irish
Addressing Lordshig: in this capacity We earnestly
irish chrch bi by reading second time and thai for tie
l. because ts object is to dissolve the union between
Church and state in one component part Of the United King
oo % o cesaes desence be,rssp ,bs epps,aan ~
ireland and that OF the remaining portion OF the United
Because wl tend to subveIt ,ha, p.roehia orssni,s
which the minsraons and consultations Of religion
lie
to rich and poor the many or the iew without DISTINCTION
Ireland wi Inevitably lead . dc result
hs Sson Win everywhere Be s nprovdsa viii hose
Of religion which cannot be adequately secured
Becaa,e The bill utterly Ignores ,hs vested rights Of the
sosn s X em Z. wss induced y ses s country
thereby redeemng from barbasm what are lie fAesi
Bsesass he Si a. the royal ,aprcmso,
@ % Sg IN bs a o nos os Ss e s s
land aud scotland and the Act Of Union between Gres,
sse ils 70 ,asss %
nss. %es SnS % 'e
beeaas b Sesroyios tii. Sass h, the prescription
1s nss .Sa HEREBY pp.ess hs a prcDolT
e Sps T sHs ss zoe s
ennssr 10 " which we have srer.d Without any allegation
s S.rs se 70 hss not believe with tn.
dignity s" sS rSSsr 70 'h ss msS was .ns
SS s%oans. 70 an sssfsco ccnaon o. isss With
s s. % spprecss he ss
OF that which IL propo1cd. -
o gecause ths measure will utterly faf IN securing that
pao0caon OF Ireland which the people OF England
feen niedto Irish disafecon oulte
speeye Of The and endowment OF tho Established
Church An ireland. This II proved not only broad
facts OF Irish history, but by the express and reiterated
csaons Of Irish sgators 70 the eject that the dsesab
btnent and disendowent OF the Church will IN no wise
content them cry Of Irish dsconten is Ireland for he
Irish and the disshectca portion OF the community regard
the isht OF an They believe concessions
more errsvasant and that the reading
this bl second 's me 10 O sDu, o,asg sos % WV 1Se
that he ownership Of the land wb b. speedily transferred 70
them thew persevere 10 that of VIOLENCE and inn
da ion 10 which they sscbe TIE Introduction OF this bill and
us success In tho Lower House,
For All hese reasons the OF the aity and the
clergy Of the Church, whose representatives we do
lorshps IN the exercise OF ooDs
rrhs 10 reject this utonRry and there
bv 10 inisrehe betwcex Most Gracious Majesty the
,.sn sna those who would demand OF her sanction bin
which we cannot but regard as violating those essens prn
ciaios ~ bo British Constitution To which she her
20 and a solxlna breaeh Of tho O9onalI1n Oath.