New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-04-11
THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
Confined from First PAGE.


Mr. BUTLER-I wish to object TO any conversation be-
tween Lns PeTsS& and the President 70 the
President to restore him to his duties.
q. You applied one or twice for restorationi A. YES
Q. On the 18th OF January you received the order
which you requested A 1t was not note To me- Dut 10
q. 70 restore you to your position A. Yes. Sir
what did he say to your Or did you see him between
that time and tho time you received your order on inc
2lsi A. Yes SIR on one occasion went over 10 tendeF
O After you had been restored your object A. Yes,
Sir; the resignation Mr. Stanton gave me.
O. Was that the first tune he spoke to You about taking
possession Of the War office ,..,
Mr. BUTLER-I object TO that leading. grossly lead
ing Was that the first time lie spoke, assuming that ne
MIR STANBERY-we will come TO it in another way3
O. DO you rccOilect what occurred the 2st Of Feb
ruaryi A. Yes Sir, thought your question was anterior
Mr.. sTANBERY~It was What happened at the War
office on t the 2st o. February IN regard to tTss es
went up myself aud asked Mr. stanton then secretary
92d OF February He directed to do it, and sent
circular round to the different departments r..
q, Was not that order made by you as AdJutantGen-
O. Was that before you had seen the President that
q. What took place after you had issued that order
A. Very soon after issued H. received note from Col
dent wished to Immediately went over to the
White House. and saw the President he came out OF ms
library he had two communications In Ills hand -
b S9 9 Sh G P eGSs IN reaa hX w
him from Office and reotng him To turn over
the other was ADDRESSED to Myself appointing me eere
tary OF War ad Interim and stating that Mr. Stanton had
O. Was that the first time you saw those papers, or
either OF themi A. The first time
O. You had no hand in writing those papers or dlctat
ing themi A. Nothing whatever
Mr. BuTLIRaThatl rather leading again nv t,o
President at that time 70 you o. s yon to the
pnt in a conversation With the PRESIDENT
Mr.. sTASBEk1-I do. .,, a., ,,...,,o,,.,
Mr.. sTANBERY-I do 1t was at the time the letters
were handed him by the President.
Mr.. BUTLER--I have no.objections.
Mr. sTANBERY-(Io wtnessl-What did he sayi A.
He said he was determined 20 support The CONSTITUTION
and the laws and he wanted me to do the same. feat
laughterl l told him would. tlaughter.l
q What further took place. A. He then directed mo
o was that all Did YOU then leave A: Then told
him that going 70 take somebody out Of my Depart
stated that would take Gen Williams, Assistant AdJu
tant- General in my Department. o,,s .,,,. ,,,,
O. You told the President that you would take MN
along 20 witness tho naactioA A. Yes sir.
O. What dd You DO then A. then vent over 70 tmg
told GEN Williams wished him to 10 with me; dd ht
tell him for what purpose adht yen nun wna ~ i ,
Secretarys aHd handed him the r6t paper WIucn
O. What took place then dia he read III A. He got
er ana Se mt II down on the corner OF his table aud
sat down and presently las took IL up aud read 1t he
then said Do you wish ne 10 vecae the office az once
viii you give lne time 70 get my private property 10
O. Did he say what time lac would requirei A. No,
.r did not AZ him. l thsn handed him the paper
addres ed 70 me which 10 read lie asked me 90 give
q. what did you say A. In the meantime Gen Grant
came in and haLdod IL 20 hin. He asked II IL was for
him ssid ono" merely for hls information Tnen
@. Is It below that Of the secretaryl a Below Gen
q. on the bwer hocri a. Yes. sir a copy was made
which l certified as Secretary Of War al Interim
Iaushier took that UP ana handed it 70 him lie
them said 80 don't know whether VIII obey your III
struoons" lie stood there Nothing more passed, and
O. Was Gen. Grant there at the second interview A.
q Did Gen. Williams 80 up with you the second lime !
o. VIA, time Of the day was thisi 4. think 1t was
aht hen went 20 see the Secretary ana aler that
came down 10 the Prcsidents-abou' O'clock sup
Immediately otter you had written the order to close
| O Was that ell tlat occurred between you and the
Secretary on ~ ?isti A. think It was Oh no. no
g What foilowedi 4. went into the other room, and
said that should hot. or that no would oountermand
tleu, and le iurnedro1nh 70 scheyer and townsend.
O. Wa hat OF he 2ist or 22di A. The ?lst lie wrote
| note aud handed 10 10 mc.
q Rave ia sot that noai A: gave It to you, I
tbnk lwiinsss searches hs p)cketsI The note was
H. sIorLgry produced the paper:
O See n thar "a the paperi A. That Is H. SIR tho body
OF l. not la Nj sanlos handwriting he took m out to
! Gen. .To-nsendf Z, copy was made; Mr. stanton
Nr RITfIER said: "Wait a moment II you please !"
&c and rad cot rs FAR as sir" before the honorable
! Manager could stop him, amid general laughter
the witness read the letter dated Feb d. commanding
him 20 abstain from issuing any order other Than IN ms
capacity a. Adiutant Genera! OF the Army sished "
| Edwin NJ stanton, Secretary Of War. ,,-,,
Sit pa'0a ''' '"' ''''"'"' ''''' ''''' '''' "
| Mr.. BUTLER-sop moment object now Mr..
dent and
Object you VIII observe, 10 any orders or directions
tween the President and Gen. Thomas at the time of
Issuing the commissions; but now tho commission mas
refused; the peremptory order given To Cen Thomas
70 mind his own business, TO keep out OF the
President, by talking TO Gen. Thomas, or Gen Thomas
by talking 10 the President, confirm his own declarations
for the purpose OF making evidence IN favor OF himself
the Senate has already decided by solemn vote in cOne-
guence believe, OF decision OF the presiding officer
t ls p@sS o s 70 on a ShtS 70 p But fne ehaeuo
| any authority that can DO shown anywhere,
s w aS apa are udG an Court T "a or aS
other body OF trial. challenge anybody say 10 show
that testimony can be given OF what the respondent said
to his coconspira.or the conspiracy being presumed
Can 1t be that the President call up any officer
Justify the acts The act that we complain OF was
| the removal of Mr.. Stanton and the appoint
ean Be 81 re@cy9G AZ an the argument Just
presented TO by the learned counsel TO be that even
n nto' rcnovniS at all ana no hppointnent at all
| II that is the case, there has not been
ANYTHING at ali done and may well stop mere, but
the point OF ms argument wit That the only power of
Temoyo rcmaiaed IN the President or ~ the PRESIDENT
mud the Senate " that he true then oil that 10 wanted "
he quite right depended SantOns legs In walking ont
because everything had been done but that. We insist
that there was n REMOVAL that there appointment
aud that IL is the act which being inquired about, what
ever the character OF that act be- II better or worse
but after that act 1 say that General Thomas
make evidence by talking to the President nor
can the President by talking TO Thomas Even supp0sing
that the act lnuocen thing as conspiracy 10
get M law suit after the conspiracy had taken
Incn anh net theY cOnld not put