New-York tribune., 1868-11-02

shocks Of earthquake have been felt at Leamingt0n in
Warwick County. The formal dissolution OF Parliament
will probably take place this week The wrts for the
elections Will be Issued Immediately thereafter, and the
elections will commence three days from the dates Of the
wrts.
MR. GLADSTONE AT NEwTON-THE Difference
BETWEEN THE IRISH AND ENGLISH ESTAB-
LISHMENT.
Mr.. Gladstone and Mr.. Grenfell, the Liberal
candidates for the southwestern division Of Lancashire,
addressed crowded meeting OF the electors on tho lith
stone was TO speak at Leigh the 2lst at Omskirk and
Southport and on the 23d al Wigan when MS tour III the
j. Evans PRESIDED and briefly introduced the candidates
Mr.. Gladstone who was received with LOUD cheeis teh
addressed the meeting. After passing auson TO the
subject OF national expenditures he went on to say Now
consider for moment tho various methods OF proceed
ing hat have been recommended with respect To tho Irish
(Xurch There IS tho method Of standing sill. Well IL
Is not necessary 10 say much about That method iAus
teri The next plan. and tho plan We recommend,
* the discstabshmont OF tho Irish Church-the
putting an ond entirely 10 the system OF
now because may discuss tho merits at another time
The third plan the plan of multiplying church esab
lshments in Ireland. Now that was plan wich had
great cOunteDance In former times. and Il had very
great cOuneDance so late the month OF March last
when it was tho Plan OF Her MNettys 1oXeInmSht:
Lastly there Is the plan OF reforming abuses Now what
mOyai 81 abuses except the pan OF the Chuioh o9nls
sion Now. what is The plan Of the Coiumsionefst II
this The incomes Of the bishops are 10 DC Ieuee1 Iou
sees ere 10 he suppressed aoSehcr anu hulupeI u
benefces TO be suppressed where there are lot more
than forty members OF the Established OhufCn bthtNo
is said that 900 benoces would be oepnved OF te.
ministers Now, gentlemen observe the enccts OF that
Church, you constantly told that although may be
quite true that there are not IN al cases congregations
for the clergy OF the National Establishment yet that in
the peculiar condition Of Ioland II is OF tie highest cyil
consequence and importance 10 have epreau Throughout
the country gentlemen Of refinement tie educat0n who
are bound 10 good conduct by their profession WHO arc
charitable almost Of necessity ana who constantly resi-
dent in the country Now, II that be great necessity you
VIII observe that these Who are 70 remove
the abuses Of the Ish Chuch propose entirely 70 ue-
advantage OF these resident ccrRymen lHear, hear
Gentlemen, there IS another recommendation or two II
pressed and that possible the parish clerk
shah be consolidated into the sraye-dgger "a leughl
making rough computation. Tins removal OF abuses.
II carried ont would produce tuud OF sso0oo year
What to be done with III Wen Rentleinel, the C1n'
anda permanent body, called the Ecclesiastical Com
mssOnersOugh to have large discretion 10 Hlpy d lor
tic Increase OF the incomes Of the clergy with considcra
~ ~, ~ 'Ie clergy of the thurch Of England
1t il q very rough computation but u England We have,
ehcnd saw 10000 cereymen and estimate that there
iiShed c6STch think that is low eoispntation ny
own that there more rather than less but com
pute upon that basis ana tat the revenue % me Chus
Of England is less, Ia round humpeff &iWdOH
1t follows, therefore that on the HHefsge ,hc }, one
Cergymen for every 600 sous "lth AN eLuonbch' oll
over9 of a2e0 year. Ia Ireland there arc 2tO clergy
or do not think - b. clearly slated IA me re-
mort OF tie Royal Commission and there are uudcr 3CC0
rouis The revenue take at 100000, which i niue
"a r nav eav very considcraby below The sum at
which think, they should have been pnt LOT inc pur
d
ibe Church OF England aud its resources, Aiooo wouh
have been much more accurate statement o. .e isRs %
,bcreos m England one clergyman has 42oO aud LOOKS
after GO souls clergyman In Ireland has %S ia ipAs
Church were paid as the Inch Church IT, instead % nav
ing s2lO the clergyman would nave epout Ao.o, "sh &
iilSh % eOS ~ 10 ah ~ ireland and peoflcd mainly as
tbe ercaf bulk Of the counties are, by konan Catholics
Tbe Roman Catholic peasant u he has Iot dieeuy h9a
the benefit OF the tle yet nc has seen Yg 10 MS h'g
4.t.,.t t,uft4g D.. ltlgu
csted penv residet IN country that wants residents
bound good conduct, and usually give. 20
a,d Kindness. And IN IS always sNeged-ahd can De
llsve II probable In most cases ana ln Hmhy
eases true-that the Iiish peasant mas benSnieu
n qs been some consolation 10 tho Ish peasant ihae
fytLe which was taken of the land whch me lIi,h lSa
% cultivated has been spent Ia his neighDOfhOOd sha ~
6is view bY man with whom, IN many Instances nc had
kindly relations, aud from whom on many oecaSivs ~
,nld receive secular and cIyl and even moral benefit
Ruf now IL - proposed 10 cure abuses ana What s 10 De
he cure Of tie abuses Why peraps hai @ %lers @ mere
Cafiolcs and handful OF POtestants te ulhe ol lne
parish win carried out Of t1e PARISH iosetnef nuer @
ceeds of their land and Of the labor that ts NC aiu
be carried into the subnbs OF DnDt nnu In5 YnH
h sometnee that we are charged with coniisc9ton In
,ny ooiIon that Is coniscatlon. Hear hearJ These
~ .y re local funds Tie te Of the parish Was never
% xcent FOR TIC purpose OF maintaining religion IN
gwen c po11S and TO take the tthes out Of tho par
meeting the wants o. rTSes55 ,ny eninon care
~ ~, bo hears H. whatever the intention may bethat i:
aHoher matterthe act Is dangerously IKE an set OF
public plunder Cheers fOn are oiu 'hsI s tuc ts"
mrch is 10 be maintained for the bencnt oil Piotest
ism II Is the ay0ntc argument OF all VINO arc opPosou
10 ms that We iayoiers OF the Roman Catloc
With the Roman Catholic religion We nave hCthhs "hhl
ever TO do Cheersl The controversy ~ wmen VIC slS
cheefs We look at the Irish nation 40 the ish IaQh
and what We say Is this We refuse TO Withhold us5ee
from them urOu the ground alleged by y0u-naney la
they are Roman Catholics They are entitled 10 justice
fully as any other e aSeg 1Seg ue uS nothing
more lCheersl The allegation Is that the Shufch ls
maintained for the benefit Of Protestantsm Inc iaies
test OF that in the number OF PTotcstans taL hve
heen reared under the present system, compared WIN
that OF the Roman Catholic popvla'Pea Si 'e sGpn
man OF that day, gave the result 90 oi a an an
Inquiry % Not %HSp yeTy far from the truth, into the rea
tive numbers OF Protestants and Roman Cath0nes lie
said that there were three Protestants for eight Roman
Gatbocs I'm Ireland and IN order that you may make
comparison intclligble manner will reduce hese
fractions as we used to do when was at school 10 one
common denominator That means 40 PrOesants 10 l2O
Roman Catholics. That was the proportion III loiZ-We
may say 200 years ago. Ever since that une you nave
had the whole OF the ecelesastca properly OF the country
In the hands Of small minority under te name OF sup
porting nU1 U has ia in OPERATION ere ard
abomnabe laws Tor the purpose OF rcpessinE te S "a
and nniust The sernest Protestant among you would
saw n were 10 run through the penal laws, that tho ian
gage have used s 4St not 700 oens sIga that the
name by which they are known-weIe bot Wnoly uetoa
OF efficacy They spped IT. 10 far as our nfo
nation goesthey did 70 some extent sucTseu @ lp ~ Ie
.1,o
the hest figures 70 be had. have gwen tneiil m lne
Uouse of Commons aud they have never been iinugneu
In the year 1880 tho Government inquired sO .nG
Tbcv found there were two Protestans 70 fye lOnan
Catholics Before that. IN 1871 there we, were ms
Ris,on BURKE q Roman Catholic prelate-l forget IpYf
what see--nade an estimate OF tho numbers ana sara
,ere xVere two PrOtcstants for four Eoman eathOcs
thsf s co PrOtestaDts for 40 Roman Catholics. Inc
apnlication OF the DONG IN some degree us
worh I'm ICY2 Bishop Burke complained ihas & &tle
protes,ants were increasing. Shortly aftcrward lhe
neu al laws began TO DO relaxed. In 1884 computation
was made by estimating the proportion OF ,e pyopo %