The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-07-08

disruption OF that body. When these resolutions
have been read, ir any one wishes TO nave any lur-
Their interpretations OF them, beg the Convention
will act on this matter now, as IL VIII be IN Oruer
under the decision OF the Convention 1t is exceed
it is possible that the decision OF the Chair mght DC
held to help hurt the candidate-it Is exceedingly
important say that we should MAKE no decisions s,ea
sense OF this Convention. The Chalr snonid
not have thrown on IT.. the sesp ss 81 ahiy
Convention shall vote when we nominate candl
date no difficulty can arise, but II all shouts not vote
the question will come-should there be tw0-thirds
voting or would twO-thlrds OF those who did vote
make nomination. l therefore ask that tne Con
venton under some form OF w r,ht n 1a
pretation OF the resolution under these clrcum-
stances and implore the Convention TO relieve me
now of q responsibility Of that character.
RESOLUTION on THE SAME SUBJECT.
Mr. RICHARDSON OF Illinois, desire to submit
Resolved That wothrds all the votes cast shall decide
tho question.
deem the two-thrds rule as applied 10 al the Con
vention to be the most injurious rule tnat ever was
adonted nv the democratic party, and az soon as we
nominate candidate shall deem IL my uu.J W naJ
that IN oil Only constituted Oenyeh'tT" desire ITO to
say another thing before conclude anu Only one
thing. doubt If what took place at charleston IN IN
der the chairman there had not occurred, that tie
war would ever have taken place. ! don't Dsl ee ~
could do not want to cast reflections on any ooay;
to fe wo ont t 81 save se he ana
Mr. HERMAN OF New york; believe, Mr.. Chair
man. and hope that no real questlon WIN alIse III
this Convention in reference to the subject matter
Of this resolution Not alone do we want TO get Out
of the wilderness" but for the sake OF the country
do we want to win in the coming contest-tcheeIs-
and our Convention being full, as re)oice 10 Know
OF representatives here from democratic conservative
men from every State IN the Union ! ae s en WI
nominate no man in this contest except man
that commands the best Judgment OF Two
thirds of the representatives OIL this DOuy.
And therefore, sir, rise TO ask, Mr. President that
we change the rule and not adopt the resolution OF
my respected friend from Illinois. l believe, sir,
that we should not place ourselves In the position
that the representatives or any one state shouln
denote the result of our deliberations IN this import
ant contest (Appause.) Let the men from every
state consult the men from their State and not let
their preudices influence them. don't want my
Judgment to prevail If find that two-thlrds OF the
gentlemen Of this Convention are opposed TO my
Judgment; and don't want the Judgments OF others
to prevail except they snail The aeeaatss sa rom
the States that the man they select IS
the best calculated to lead us. us to ,,s, VIC
Therefore sir submit that we adhere to the rule,
that we vote down the resolution to go into ballot
and say that the man who commands tWO-thlrds OF
The judgments OF the delegates of all the States shall
be our standard bearer, and nobody else.
RULING or TIE COMMITTEE ON Se inGnsss NJ
the Committee on organization was seiected its
chairman When it reported the rule with reference
to established regulations to govern the proceedings
Of this body it was important, sir that very clear
understanding should be had upon THIS important
subject And 1t may Se e ns yod s To-
Know - what That was the construction placed upon
this rule by that committee. And, SIR, l
will state that believe 10 was the unanimous Judg-
ment that tina. committee when 1t reported the rule
that it required not twothirds OF the vote cast but
WheersS Therefore, sir, l move as substitute to
the resolution OF the honorable gentleman from ILL
nOis which send to the desk: III u.,a .,o ru.,o,
The CLERK-Mr. Clymer, of Pennsylvania, offers the
A DELICATE FROM Maryland ask what has be
come OF the resolution that was offered from Mary
land. want 1t to be read.
barrassing that two resolutions should have been in
adyertentiy recognized out OF order.
MT ULYMER asked for the reading OF the resolution
from the gentleman from Maryland.
Mr.. RICHARDSON withdrew his whole proposition.
THE 1860 RULE
The CUAIRMAN-If the resolutions are withdrawn
the Chair advises this Convention that 1t shall adopt
the construction which was put upon this rule In
1850 by the President OF inc az a. thares
more. (Chccrs) Now. the Chair understands that
the decision at Charleston, which decision was as.
sener reou fH a''rw twoards Of the electoral
Votes. .sa"t IChecrs " In order that the Con.
Secretary to read it, with that understanding II the
gentlemen assent to it, the subject will be dropped
Mr.. WHITE of ACCOMPLISHMENTS as the deci-
sion OF the Chair contains cXacty what MY reSolu-
ton contains, Withdraw It,
The SECRETARY then read as follows:-"The Chair
The resolution passsat a bs IL as under
dcrstOod BY the President present occupant OF the
chair was not a change IN the RUE requiring Two
thirds of the vote given to nominate" DC. The ey-
tract further stated that the directions to the Chair
man were to the effect not TO declare any one n0mi-
mated until he had received tw0-third5 oil the votes
of the Electoral College.
BiILorrNa FOR PRESIDENT.
Mr.. BIGLER, Of Pennsylvanla-i now move, sur the
Convention do proceed to ballot and the States be
now called.
wish TO know the exact electoral vote, II the Chair
man will please TO announce 1t.
The CHAIRMAS-Threc hundred and seventeen Is
the number Of the electoral vote: ,
luton to the effect that tnasmuch as twQlpndred
and eleven and half votes constituted twothirds OF
for President unless he should receive two hundred
ana twelve votes. Cries OF "No non
A DELEGATE from Maryand-i move to lay that
resolution on the table. (Cheers.)
The CgArRNAF--The Chair is OF opinion that the
Convention has already sufficiently settled this ques-
ton and therefore the resolution OF the gentleman
OF new DIRK il not In order. because It Is carrying
out what has already been passed upon lCheers.l
I wish 20 say one word TO this audience. IL
has been q subject OF complaint In which the Chair,
perhaps, has been at fault that we have allowed
ness our proceedings, and there has been so much
of that which went straight TO the democratic heart
that we could not repress such manifestations Jap
plause.) But while that Is true, the auditory must
remember that so far rs business Is concerned 1t Is
n n ana ar Of this body by sucS manfeaS
tons. (Cheera.) Let me say another thing-that
while the tickets TO this Convention nave been given
share of these tickets Is drawn by the great city In
which this Convention Is held. Let me enforce my
appeal TO the audience to withhold their interior
ence Besides there is another consideration which
know will sink deep into the heart OF every man
of New York. II would be an act OF inhosptalty
to interfere. I trust, therefore, that when
this Convention will proceed TO ballot, that
there shall be no manifestation which shall
not show 10 this Convention that every put for
ward IA true and honest and that we would be glad
to honor them ALL out that our choice must be con-
fined to one. (Cheers.)
NOMINATION FOR CANDIDATRS-GREAT EXCITEMENT.
Mr.. BIaLER, Of Pennsylvana-We now proceed in
order to nominate the candidates TO the Conven-
ton.
A DELEGATE from Pennsylvania moved that the
Convention do nov proceed TO nominate candidate
for President for the United States. (Cheers)
The CHAIRMAN decided the resolution was not In
order. as the Convention was engaged In the per-
Torrance OF other duties.
Mr.. TiLpsN, OF New York am desired to suggest
10 the Chair that is proper for the secretary or the
Convention, when any state shall give Its vote TO call