The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-10-27

pocketbook for reference. When I prepared nv
speech took that copy out and directed that para
graph to be inserted and that word possibly ia ny
speech precisely as II appears In that newspaper
General Butler here showed me the crumpled ana
soed newspaper extract referred TO; u printed tnc
plaiLorm precisely as IL appeared IN his speech VIM
possibly instead OF honestly.
the General continued:-"It has not occurred 70
me that there Is any difference IN the worus-oecause
u cannot possibly be done any sooner than y eau
honestly be DONE nor honestly be done any sooner
than 1t can possibly he done. NV opponents simply
catch at words Tor want OF better material to use
against me. Their own honesty Is seen In the iact
iney started the opposition according 20 tnsr vmn
statements. because was unsound financially lncy
carry on the war against me by charges against my
private character and public acts which have nom
ing 10 90 with the financial issue.
CONSERVATISM AND RADrcALISn
Tne truth Is that this financial issue raised against
W e a sp pTseS = pSr VAT and
radicalism. My opponents are CONSERVATIVES; I
an; am radical republican. fhey maze Radicals y.
otherwise than opposed Desiring 10 maintain
their relations with the republican party, fhey
saw in the financial question pretext TO
candidate. These men know that my warinest sup
porters and friends are the radical repnoicans o.
ported by all the radical republican newspapers;
am opposed by some OF the conservative news
papers and by all the rebel and copperhead journals
In full cry. Like win. seek like; and al no Distant
DAY the true progressive radical men OF the country
viii be found acting together, aud the rebels, the
copperheads and conservatives win be found In the
opposition But about that change, again let me say
that 1t is evident to me that the word Was possibly
the original platform; the change or forgery has
been made 10y the goldhunters For The platform To
say that the rate OF interest should be lowered as
soon as II honestly can be done Is TO say that there
will be time that IL can honestly be lowered. II Il
ever can be honestly lowered why not now Inc
contract must remain the same. Possibly y the
only word that makes sense there
BUTLER AND GRANT.
"rhey charge that you will not act in harmony
with Grants administration. How is thats"
Il say that the charge is Islander on General
Grant, for shall be entirely in harmony with true
progressive republican principles upon which, !
assume his administration WI, be conducted. or
this can have no doubt and his administration
will have no more ardent supporter than myself
BUTLER ON PUBLIC CONSCIENCE.
'sThere IL another serious charge that the riends
OF psa a MAKE there n no scS thing az
public conscience, and so seek to draw on from your
support the radicals whose best EFFORTS have been
directed to arouse a sense Of moral obligation III
public lifen
"That,n rejoncd Butler, sis perversion and mis-
ber stated only the historical truth that expert
ence has shown that the public conscience has often
vsn ssai Se q
debt and taxation might be so far relieved that no
strain should be put upon public or private consci
ence. Therefore advocated the collecting OF the in
come tax on the bonds directly-upon the coupon-in
order to save the conscience OF many bondholders
who forget to return OH the bonds they hold to the
Assessor for taxation. They keep back part OF the
price, which is the kind OF lying which God pun
lshed in Ananias and saphra They too, kept
u
Very good, brother Butler. That Is most pro-
per and most pious illustration. Talking OF Sinners
when do you think Jefr Davis will be triedr'
BUTLER on JEFF DAVIS TRIAL.
"He won't be tried at all, said Butler, with en-
phasls. 'sMy opponent, Mr.. Dana, and Attorney
General Evarts have been employed in behalf Of the
government for three years already to attend TO his
and they have no intention Of having him tried
If Mr.. Dana would 90 down To Richmond and have
HIM convicted I think that the conviction OF the
cef murderer Of the prisoners OF Eellc Isle and An
Jacksonville would be Of such use TO the country that
would promise to make speeches in favor OF Mr..
Dana myself while he is absent on that duty.o
THE SOUTHERN MASsACREs.
This reference TO the condition or our prisoners
under Lee and Davis led to some talk about the
recent massacres which | have not space enough
to record. In the course OF II asked him -
who do yon think is responsible for the masscres
at the South?'
every man,'' said Butler with no loss Of energy,
''every man who voted TO acquit Andrew Johnson In
the impeachment trial, and especially Mr.. Eessen-
den, whose high position and commanding talents
rendered it possible for Henderson, Ross and Fowler
to do as they did. II impeachment had succeeded
the conviction Of Jef Davis would have followed
aud there would have been peace at the South.
Those In Boston who rendered public dinner to
Mr.. Fcssenden, for his vote on impeachment, as u
rcproach to Mr.. Summer, look upon as in some de-
gree asticpDs ciniyas OF the murders of the thol-
sands OF Union men ut the South, white and black.
whose blood, take pride IN saying, does not rest
Upon my garment