New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-10-17
PROTESTANT EPISCOPAL GENERAL CON
FENTiON
NINTH DAY.


The session began at 10 u. m. Yesterday, IA
Morning service vas read by the Rev Or Parker
Bishop Williams Of Connecticut pronounced the behedic
ton -. 4, ,,.,.
% nf the Constitution reducing the number Of deputies
10 the General Convention from each diocese from four
Order aud providing that whenever the number OF 40.
In union with the General Convention shall exceed
hfty. the number OF deputies from each diocese shan 10
two of each order lay aud clerical Ihid on the tnnlc
amendment 60 Canon H. Titlel:
',S S o., ,eT ,,, toe ' s ,,pne, Of m being mi.er
thereof" nd sad 1t te end the section tn evidence Of m beng
nth. hIs sp "a; S' ,S Ss foTa u.% sections. Sooa No
minister 81 tins Church .ec over an p'.h or orgrs,ra o. 10
Beops oaie sb @ 10 hi' pliee stead On se'
!. settled a. charge Ssl No aiaer permit
escAie AZ resi-. minister ol.ned by lhsp no N so%nan
lSrer q Us Church upicr cshoa y
Referred to Committee on tano9s
Nj. Tedi OF ka'isis on.rcd The following
CONSIDER ere-ny from TIE sysa b. th
rrcsg'er , ths p' lhs ,e. for Che orlerss Of
aB. rho-e .ins thou ,s'.i rttau they are fe.ncd'
right to present such proposition aud no moved that
the geniieman have leave to withdraw It, -,
It was not granted, and the resolution was laid on the
table
luton providing for Joint Committee 60 AT during the
recess between tins and the next General convention, 10
of This Church" in Cauon Scc D. line 3lwhcthor II
means simply presiding Bishop the House OF Bishops
face Ia the literal sense, the Presiding Bishop oi THIS
Church ia the sense Of pri"ps OF patriarch
and the latter he It's meaning, requiring the Committee
report canon bringing the present pbra-oosy "f Tue
Constitution aud CanOus into harmony with itself aud
defining the powers Of the Presiding Bishop. aud pre-
scimug the mode 81 his election.
Mr. Fish Of New-York offered the following substitute;
oire That Cabons he directed % inquire toto
the eIpeene Of sinking out The words OF is' oA1f1 -'' we
The substitute was adopted aud referred to the Com
The Rev Dr. Iittleohn from the Committee Do
nestle aud Foreign Missions. reported The following 49,
is ar t Of s h' BSsd q iG
e folio. words. At La, qgs - aaa 20 four times to
Dr. Idttcjoln said that this change would remove the
possibility ~ DOUBT the construction OF tho canon,
The Prerilent announced the following as the Commit
tee the Report Of the Conmiiee on mo fIu'lnchl
systcm DR.. Mucahey OF Massachusetts, Or Justin of
Michigan, Dr. Dana of Mississippi, Ma Treat OF Illinois,
and MIR. Schroeder of Alabama
AHA O'Clock tue order OF the day e proposed amend
ment the Tying Canon called Tor but motion To
postpone H. aud proceed with the unfinished Oider OF
The lay Of yesterday. made aud carried
The President stated the question before The House TO
be- that which pending at the J1urnmcnt last even
ing on proposed amendment 10 Article OF tho
Constitution, by adding 10 the second clause OF said mr.
tce the words aud such consent shall not be gwen ~
the General Convention until satisfactory assurance OF
suitable provision for the support OF the EscOpaio ~
the contemplated new diocese shall have been given aud
Nh shattuck Of Massachusetts resumed the door aud
Of proposed pecunary restriction upon tho orma
ton Of now doccses lie yielded e hoor 10 Mr. WEIGH
Of Pcnnry iyaia who offered tho following as subst
tute for the amendment proposed by the Committee. aud
thought II would put an cnd To The debate:
sraeoaeuts will
H. %s s -. S s AZ ~ & .Ss the .gro iS
Hons. Of Bishops and the House Of S'el and Lay DePnhe IN dsa'
The President suggested that II the House refused 10
report Of the COMMITTEE on Canons would be almost den
teal with the substitute offered by Mr. Wolch, having
cease. the Convention OF the Diocese, and the General
Convention.
Tho Rev DR. Howe OF Massachusetts, opposed to
any pecunafy restriction upon the erection OF dO-
He thought that Ia the multiplication Of bishops
there sensible mean-ticre might be too fow, or
there might DO too many.
Mr.. Stevenson OF Kentucky, at 10 minutes past O'Clock
that tho debate shOud close at $780, and that
intervening speeches should be only ten minutes long,
but an amendment was moved and adopted limiting the
speeches 70 five minutes EACH but not limiting the length
Of the debate.
The Rev Dr. MoMasters said that in the West the pro
priety OF taking of restrictions upon tho formation OF
doceses had long been felt aud that the West had
restrictions should DO taken ofat least In part The
quest had been referred 10 committee which had mado
restrictions and he in favor Of that report agreeing
with tho gentleman from the commttee 1.-THE Rev. DIR.
Mead that 1t Is wiser to take what you can get than 10
hold out for more and perhaps lose all.
Mr. Comstoek OF Western NewYork was opposed to the
Convention 10 prescribe the amount to be paid to
Mr. / ISL of Eew-Yorh rs one Of the Committee, said
that the provision was not 30 intended
permitted to nterprei their own language Their amend
ment required that "a suitable provision" should be
or adequate in amount Understanding that to be the
meaning tho proposed change he denied tho right OF
any authority In the Church 10 Interfere in plain civil
contract like that between Bishop and his Diocese lie
regarded the proposition Of the Committee substan
TALLY providing for endowment OF tho Episcopate
Mr.. Edward McCrady OF South Carolina asked tho
remember that the remarks explanations OF
Of the Committee could have force In TX
ing the meaning OF the amendments they proposed.
Mr. Battle OF North Carolina, IA one OF the committee,
for them any claim that they could authori
tavey interpret the LANGUAGE Of the proposed amend
nents but the amendment under discussion was de-
signed allow the provision for support OF tho bishop
TO DO made 10 any proper way, ana the language OK
could not fairly DO understood 10 be confined 70 endow
ment
deputy asked the Chair II was consistent with the
Character OF the church that there should be
pecunsry qualification required, as In the committees
The Presldent replied that DR. Mahan had the floor.
Ths Rev Dr. Mahan remarked that the Language OF the
amendment was purposey chosen by the Committee 30
as 10 leave IL the Convention TO deermine In esch
case what Suitable provision wouid pe ana no no
Thought impossible TO torture It into prescription OF
any particular manner Of making such provison .
The Rev Mr.. MARBLE OF Pennsylvania replying 70 tho
question put 10 the Chair said that OF the nrs things
which Primitive Church provided FOR was the support
OF It's Bishops, and cited Bingham upon the subject
The Rev. Or. Goodwin OF Pennsylvania, also replying
TO the question cited the words OF the Apostle Paul
that the lord had that they who preached the
Gospel should live by tho Gospel, evidently meaning
something else something more than mere spiritual
support The question whether bishops would deny
themselves to the Church was very norent IRON
the question whether tho Church should require her
Bishops 70 do So and leave them without adequate sup
port.
Mr.. Churchill OF Kontuoky favored tho substitute
offered by Mr. WEIGH thought tho volti0n shOut