The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1868-06-10
PROCEEDINGS
OF THE
LEGISLATIVE AsSEMBLY--ls6s.

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THIKrr-SISrH DAY, TUESDAY, June >
Assembly met At 10 A. ~, H. Ii. NJ keku
anaoa in the chair.
After prayer by the Chaplain. the minutei
Of the preceding day were read and approved
RESOLUuONs.-Mr. Hitchcock renewed IA,
resolution of yesterday in regard to taking tn,
vote on subsidy at P. NJ, with the amend
ment that at l:S0 P. n the Attorney should
have the floor. Carried.
Mr.. Pilipo offered 4 resolution that the sala-
ries of the teachers at LahainAluna be. for the
Principal 81 500; d Principal, 81 .400: Teach
the appropriation bill.
Mr.. KuihelAni introduced bill to amend
Section ., Article 90 of the Civil Code, in rela-
tion 10 the sale Of AVA, the bill was to decrease
I the price Of licenses and increase the number
I OF places for its sale. be also introduced 3
biz TO amend Sec. 7So Of the Civil Code. in re-
gard Se the number of Representatives.
0nnER or THE DAN.-A bill to promote
I ocean steam navigation.
Mr.. Wilder moved to refer TO COMMITTEES
/ Of the Whole.
Mr.. Lyons amended to instruct the commit
/ tee to act upon Mr.. Hitchcock resolution.
I Passed as amended.
I Mr. Wilder said. as member. he deemed it
MS lAA.f ~ WY Ut INT jill SANuAl
not pass. He did not wish 10 be understood
as opposed to steam in the abstract But the
I point he wished to keep before the House was,
the giving Of SO large a sum unnecessarily.
Subsidies was sparingly granted by ali eoun-
tres. Ii tends TO sustain vast monopolies.
The CAlifcvnis, Oregon Il Mexico Company
was one Of these. 8 company, that by its i'm
mense wealth. dOmineerei over the State Of
California. The company was headed by a
man who could, if be wished. buy up the en-
tire island, and who seldom attempted any
thing but be succeeded. What did be care
for the general good Of these islands, lie
only wished to control the whole trade Of the
islands and cut of all competitors. The way
bills Of the packet were straight forward and
simple, but those Of the steam company were
exceedingly blind and full Of protection to
everything exeep; the fr-ighter. He referred
10 transhipment Of fruit said that in South
California everything could be raised there
that could be raised in the islands, and only
two and a half DAYS from San Francisco. A
person here had shipped 95 lunches of hana-
mas by the steamer and lost nearly all, but by
the bark Comet large amount was shipped
which arrived in good order. The $4,000
asked for must be borrowed, and the principal
with the enormous interest would, al the end
Of a5 years, amount 10 Sll7 900. And all
NAAs AlE = sGLNllt LAaA N0liL emu II Two wears.
The steam line was sure without a subsidy for
ten years. The Minister a; Washington said
he doubted not that the subsidy from the
American Government would be raised SO as 70
keep tEo steamers running each month Is 1t
wise then TO burden an over-taXeG people with
this large snms Not only sound reasoning.
but = sacred regard for the people eonstrains
Us - vote agains; this bill. He could aver
also that not planter would be benefited by
the carrying Of sugar BY steam instead Of sail.
he should vote against the bill.
Mr.. Lyons said that he Was careful yester-
day not 70 say anything against Tire steamer
company, but be had learned 50 much in re
gard TO them that he must say more, and ex-
pose their fSlseneSs-
Mr.. Rhodes called the speaker TO order for
using unpariiameniary language.
Mr.. Lyons proeeedesl The agents had stated
before the Committee on Commerce that the
coal used on one trip was about SIS tons, the
Captain had sworn that il was about 2SQ tons,
and that statements hsd been made about the
smallness Of freight that afterwards was proven
untrue Those statements were made before
the Committee to get more subsidy, and as
soon as It was seeared here they would 90 to
Washington and get more there
Mr. halu said that he wAs strongly opposed
to the bill. For many years al the benefits
and it Was unsafe TO cut them of and try
something uncertain. The Ministers said that
great many benefits would come from the
steamers, be did not know for certain After
hearing all. for and Agsins; the subsidy, be
Was Of opinion that II should not pass. Jus
tee 70 the people demanded that the people
should have voice II the disposition Of the
public money, but they did no; wish to have
the money given to people ont Of the country.
The Ministers thought the granting Of the sub
sidy would be good thing, and perhaps it
might be So
Nr. Bishop offered some amendments to sec
ton first, to insert - Privy CouneI," in the
place Of '' Cabinet To strike ont the words
staple products" and insert the ordinary
merchandise from either port" TO insert a
clause that the mails should be carried free OF
charges, and thG; SIX dollars Per ton snG sTe
Per cent pTImaEe should be the rates Of freight.
The public were greatly interested IN the blIl. I
Petitions for and against it had been brought
in. Al seemed 70 sEree that steam eommuni-
cation vas desiTable-the question therefore 4
sAs, were Ee likely 10 have il without subsidy. I
We had one steamer, truly, but there Is no 4
and that Eas Of great Importance. I
II tive steamers we're pat On, the packets would .
probably be run or Many Of the arguments /
against subsidy were equally strong against 4
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Of the BENEFITS Of steamers, though not able .
to subscribe 70 Il al, We; be thought there were
great advantages 70 De derived from steam I
line. Il Vas true that We were IN the road OF /
travel On this ocean. and Il would be Of great
advantage 70 have Our freight carried quick.
Il Vas Impossible 20 elumerate al the zdvan-
iaSes, bat that there vas a great coed to come
10 the Islands by steam lines could lot be dis
puted- Internal improvements was dones-
tie want and could be attended to at any time.
but the steamers could 10. be contracted with
~ any time In case the amount passed, the
government would not be bound 70 make the
contract, bat wait until the subject Of Reei-
procity VAS decided
h H. W c. LEn2liio objected to the pas
sage Of the bill We had line guaranteed
e Is for the next ten years Our money VIII
se given fooliShly- He strongly supported the
arguments o. the members for Hiio and 10
l4la- What vas the Use Of pAying for that
<hich re can have without cost 70 ourselves
Why shoaid S5e. .O00 be thrown away When It
EAs needed Il the country He thoaght that
he Ministers were mistaken n their support
Il the bill
NT. Hitchcock said that OF account cf the
iuoe-uus ane1dneotS and the blindness Of
Whole biIl, be moved 20 indefinitely postpone
lie first section and the whole bill
Mr.. Rhodes said thss, u regard 70 the bill.
: vas verT clear that steam communication
Ezs needed with San FrAneiseo- Merchants
,ould not 70 into business and be s1re Of the
sS1lf. SO i Vas II this ease The benefits
{ : steamer Ike we're uzSsnizble- Steam, As
oupz-ed with sail, Eas n ifs infancy, bat 1t
rzs working is way oEsr the whole world
Is benefits were eFsrrEhe-e acknowledged,
ne Il re drove aE4T steam We shOzld Be
ro-Se than nAduen- Steam. instead Of i1jzr-
u sails. helped them he did not agree
nh tie 1eaber from HilO. II his remarks Of
-ests-dzy. entirely: Ia, with Mr. Bishop, to