The New York herald., 1868-05-26

I O. eoIsthIns inpcrsans shat you was to do,
| o. You understood the telegram you sent SHOOK
| didn't your A. think he came; 1t was for me to
Q. what was that important thing that You Were
| to do when you got heres A. don't know.
Q. What did you understand nc. II 70 bes A: un-
explain what my understanding oil 1t was If you
'"N You can rive the explanation in direct answer
to the question. What was the important matter
which you or Shook were TO do when you got here
in relation to impeachment A. 40 not know;
know nothing more than what the telegram states
O. Let us put this together and see. On the 9th OF
May Webster telegraphed to yOu-"He VIII do It.
Telegraph Hugh Hastings to come here right away
You have forgotten who 'he" Is, or do not know
Q. on the 7tR wooley telegraphed to yon-"when
and you understood that to mean Hastings.
on the sth Wooley again telegraphs to
House and get from our friend, which you say
means you. an answer to my despatch OF yesterday
When Shook called on you to get an answer you do
@ Then on the 18th Mr.. Cox says the 18th being
the day after the adjournment OF the Senate, Tf yOn
can't come over send sheridan Shook. Important.
5. ). cox" Now 1t seems when the telegram was
shown you, you understood who Hooker was, and
you know that Wooley wanted you or Shook should
come and 40 something that was important about
Impeachment.
Wtness-Excuse me- II Won assume that language
is mine ! said it related to impeachment not that
there was something to be DONE but what did not
know; knew that the whole subject related to i'm
Q. But doing sbusiness' shows that something was
to be doneY A. Yes.
done. "Come yourself or send Shook" shows that
something was to be done, which you Shook could
do. Now, pray, what was to be donef A. l have
answered that do not know
O. What did you understand was to be done A.
don't know that l understood anything, and per-
haps you Will find out that did not; II You will allow
me, will say that from all heard the subject OF
Impeachment I had no confidence in the schemes
tnat were talked about, and declined to have any
Q. What were The schemesP A. They were to get
the votes OF Senators against conviction.
U. HOW A. AS l understood, by purchase by
money.
Q. Who were engaged in these schemess A. have
heard the subject mentioned by number of parties.
q. Tell me whO2 A. think the first person heard
tax on the subject was a General Adams
g Formerly in the Confederate army' A. For
anything that know formerly In the Confederate
army. though suppose not.
O. What is his other nameS A. am not sure
about that
O. Were you intimate with him9 A. No.
q. How did he come to you, stranger, to talk to
think he had talked on the subject with another
gentleman who In the course Of the conversation
said that he would consult me.
z. VINO was that other gentlemanp A. The Col
lectOr, Smythe; l think in that conversation my
name was mentioned and In passing out of the Gus
tom House by the way advised the Collector. and
think the advice concurred with his own view, to
have nothing to do with the subject; met with this
person passing out OF the Custom House and he in
Q. whenp A. think three weeks ago
Q. Had the Collector talked with you befOre9 A.
Q. Did you advise the Collector not TO have any
thing TO do with the subject before after you
AdamsY A. Both before and after.
U. Did you introduce the subject to hIm-a sub
ject that you had never heard OFF A.. have just
stated that the Collector told me of this converse
ton with General Adams
Q. The Collector told your A. Yes.
& 9: Wnat IN, ala in ne tell your A: That Adams pro,
certain Senators against conviction
@. What Senators? A. or course am under your
direction do not voluntarily introduce anybody's
name. The names mentioned to me were Senator
-, Senator -, Senator and cannot
with certainty indicate the other names.
q. - A. am not sure.
O. - A. Here want to answer you very
unequtvOcally. Inasmuch as - voted against
my mind has been good deal turned
mentioned by anybody as one Of the persons to be
Q. Anybody elsea A. Yes; understood an ar
rangement was to be made for four votes, but
not say positively, except - and -.
wy S y0%
for In that wayP A. No, do not remember that
there was any reason. had no faith in it. l advo-
BY Mt. Butler-Q. Was It made apparently in good
faith to your A. made the conversation with Mr..
| Q. speak Of the conversation with Smythe A..
Smythe told me what Adams had said.
smytSe was asking nav advice as to- the se"ree Of
confidence to be placed In this man Adams; said
did not know him; did not ike the looks OF it in
any way, thought IL not best to have anything to do
with IL.
By Mr.. wilson-Q. Do you know who this man sq A.
II General Butler had not made me hesitate about It
should have said he in our army
originally nom the county OF Onondaea: got that
man in the Union army and formerly from the county
OF OnOndaga.
BY Mr. Butler-Q. That was about three weeks
O. Who was the next man that talked with YOU
about purchasing votesf A. The subject was often
talked about In New York.
O. BY whom to your A. suppose to answer your
question In the spirit It was put the next converse
lion, lion had mad was with Webster wooley and Shook
O. Whens A. think week after Adams was
there.
my impression Is, though am not very confident,
that that was the first time ever saw wooley.
Q. What was said about ltf A. Substantially
what Adams said. IL was said that there was
proposition made for votes and for money.
2. What sum was mentioneds A. Thirty thousand
Q. For one vote, or mores A. For three votes;
but three % names were mentioned that ! remember.
Thnt wss a5USt iSsy' Week after SeS ,on,
two weeks agoY A. Yes, think so.
Q. Cannot you fix the date any nearerS A. can
q. Was Hastings in the matter thens A. No, sir,
Hastings had not been spoken OF then.
Y. Who first spoke to you Of HastingsS A. The
9; Did you speak of Hastings thenS A. After
got the telegram.
q. How did you understand telegram from Web
ster "He will do It,n Hastings having never been
spoken Of ''rell Hastings to come right away.n
How did you understand 10 to relate to Impeachment
unless Hastings had been previously spoken Off A.
Because the subject had been previously spoken OF at
my room by these three gentlemen.
O. Now did not you understand that "he" referred
to some party whose vote to be purchasedY
A. had no distinct understanding at all; 1t an
enigma TO me, and don't know that tried TO /
understand IL; had forgotten that there was any /
such telegram; know that the telegram, whatever
it was, referred TO the subject or impeachment.
q. Then, In accordance with the request OF this
party (Webster) you did send for Hastings right
awayf A. telegraphed TO Hastings, saying he was /
wanted at Washington.
q. And you telegraphed knowing he was wanted |
to aid In purchasing votesS A. Is that quite fairS
q. think s0S A. Then answer distinctly that i
do not know that he was wanted for any purpose
aing to impeachment and IL did not occur TO me /
what he was wanted for.
Q. When ne came TO New York and hesitated about L
gOingS want TO repeat II so that you may under
stand exactly what am asking you. You have tes.
Had fhato slana -.