The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-04-18
important Testimony Of Secretary Weles
in Relation to the Removal
Of Mr.. Stanton.
Another Version of the Presidents
st. Louis Speech.
SPECIAL TELEGRAM TO THE HERALD.

WASHINGTON, April II, 1868.
The opening of the examination of Cabinet officers,
during the latter portion Of todays session OF the
Impeachment Court, elected great interest on the
part OF the large crowd assembled in the galleries.
Though the Managers allowed certain preiminaries
In the testimony Of Secretary Wees lively contrO
versy sprung up on the question of admitting the
declarations OF the President and other converse
ttena matter in relation to the of Mr. Stanton.
The Managers manifested their usual hostility to
anything calculated to throw light upon the real mo-
tves OF the President The counsel for the President
insisted upon the admissibility Of the evidence in
view OF what they proposed to prove. The question
will come up again tomorrow.
The Butler " haranguen as well characterized by
Mr.. Evarts yesterday, has had very damaging ef-
feet upon the prosecution, Senators and radicals
generally condemning 1t in no measured terms. The
latter are divided on the question of its proprety
and those who denounce it do so In the most en-
phac terms. prominent radical to-day, 1t is under
Stood asked the Chief Justice why he did not call the
Manager to order when using words so evidently in
applicable and vulgar The Chief Justice had nothing
10 say The Senate having taken the jurisdiction of
the court in their own hands, alone responsible
for the decency Of its proceedings.
rather good story has leaked out, in which the
principal actors were Senator Grimes, Of Iowa, and
Mr.. Grnnell, ex-member of Congress from the same
State 1t appears that by some unaccountabe
means the radical guardians Of the country who
have their being in tho State OF Iowa became pos
sessed Of the idea that Senator Grimes had mani
Tested disposition, during the impeachment trial,
70 consider only the evidence brought forth for and
against the articles Of impeachment, entirely losing
sight Of the wishes Of the republican party; or to
express 1t as they did in Iowa. goIng back them"
Under this impression they took counsel together
Tor the purpose OF adopting some method Of
acquaintng Senator Grimes with just what they
pected OF him when the final vote comes to be taken.
A budget OF documents was prepared with q view to
the correction Of Mr.. Grimes supposed divergence
from the radical path to the untramneled control of
the country, and the papers were entrusted to the
care OF Me-. Grinnell-who 1t will be remembered is
the gentleman that suffered at the hands of General
Rousseau-to bring to Washington and lay before
Senator Grimes. Mr.. .Grinnell reached here safely
yesterday, but unfortunate enough to lose his
carpet bag on the way containing the papers
which were to be used in terrifying the
honorable Senator into submission. This being the
case, Mr.. Grinnel had recourse left but to
present himself without his documentary credentials
and state orally what was the purport OF the lost
papers He used every argument that suggested
ITSELF and urged the suspected Senator to fail in
casting his vote for convictions; to which Mr.. Grin.
nell, is said, received the following satisfactory
posed to be in an opposite direction from heaven)
with your papers. will cast my vote in this in
accordance with the law and the evidence" The
reply made by Mr.. Grinnell, whether he made any,
to this candid avowal Of an honest man, has not
transpired; but 1t is said no further argument was
used.
General Geary, Governor of Pennsylvania, is in this
city. II is understood he comes here to give the
couragement Of his presence to the success of i'm
parchment
Fernando Wood returned to Washington to-day
from New York, having been summoned as . witness
on behalf Of the President. is said that the object
iB TO examine him to conversation with the Pre-
dent the ed Of February relative to the removal
OF Secretary Stanton.
The Cabinet convened this morning at ten O'Clock,
all the members being present, and finished up the
business before IL by The object of meeting at
An earlier hour than usual that the members Of
the Cabinet might have opportunity OF comforting
with the Presidents counsel, who arrived at the
White House and were In consultation with the Pre-
sdent for some time previous to the meeting Of the
Cabinet.
The members OF the Presidents counsel present
were Messrs Evarts, Curtis, Nelson and Groesbeck.
Mr.. Stanbery was not sufficiently recovered from his
Illness to attend the interview, which lasted for
than two hours. The matters under discussion 1t is
said have very important bearing upon the defence
IN the pending impeachment trial.