The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-09-13
MIR. Cnrdwell ON the Church Temperatures
Chances Of the Parties Mt the Election.

from the London Post Sept. IL
Mr.. Cardwell, one OF the present members and Mr..
Vernon Harcourt, who Is also candidate for the
representation Of oxford city. met large number
OF the members OF the Liberal Association, by in
vitati0n. in the Corn Exchange OF that town, at
O'Clock yesterday evening, and spoke at considerable
length on the most prominent topics OF the day.
The Chairman conSratuiated the assoc,aiion on me
great number of members present. Az the last
meeting the number OF members OF the Liberal
Association was 1850. AT the present moment the
number amounted to 1850 and he was perfectly con-
WINGED that 1t would soon amount to upwards OF
ford. tCheers.l
Mr.. Cardwell, NJ p. speaking on the Church ques-
ton said:--f All the cobwebs about the cOfO-
nation oath ana other similar matters had been
stcept d,rou by that powerful hand Sir II. Palmef1
and that TO him Mr. Cardweln had been n source OF
the most sincere qualification and satisfaction.
Cheers.) That great change was question OF great
difficulty and delicacy. The wise and the prudent
conquered difficulties by iring 10 attempt TO do so;
the weak and foolish shvered and shrunk In the path
OF danger and created the inpOssibtes which they
feared Now. what had been done IN Canada could
be accomplished IN Ireland. When, some ffteen
years ago. disesablishinent and disendowment were
applied 10 Canada, the change was OF the most salts
factory description. tending in the first place TO tram
qullize Canada, and IN the second place to add
strength, energy and vitality to the Church which
mention a few OF the results which had taken place
In consequence, OF the change IN respect to
the Church Of Scotland, because they were
the history Of any other country. scotland con-
tanned population about equal to that OF the metro
about one-third Of that population and they were
not the richer party. Now what had been the re-
suit OF that changer They had raised In the course
OF twenty-five years what they called sustentaion
fund for their clergy. and the amount exceeded two
millions and half OF money. Hear, hear.) The
annual receipts for the present year amounted to
about flSo,ooo every clergyman receiving a mini
mum income OF fl60, and there were other sums
bringing up the average income to f2oo--an amount
equal 10 ne acreage or Tie Established Church.
Hear hear.) Besides, they had maintained missions
with undated lberality. They had buM nearly
I eyJ hos N nj
on that body or men during ttreoty.tre pears u1s
about fs,0OQ.O0o. loud cheersD An Established
Church just In Engand 1t was not Just In Ireland.
Where the establishment was different the machinery
must be different. The Established Church ought to
not ' inhaled in ireland. where a. Macaalsy justly
sad 1t flied the rich with good things but sent the
poor empty away Hear hear.l The advantage OF
voluntary church said to be that II was moro
| rapid In conversion and brought more persons into
its fold. The church in Ireland had been In exist.
| ence for three hundred Years MANY distinguished
men had passed from It into the Church OF Rome, but
IL would be difficult TO show that II had won many
converts to the Protestant Church. lliear, hear
The question OF the IRISH Church had not been brought
forward as religious question: but as question OF
justice and poicy-cheers-and II was so regarded
by the Roman Catholic laty. He was cony nced
that In these days the union OF this United Kingdom
| could only he preserved hy policy OF justice
(Cheers II was an old, and unfortunately true say
ing, that Englands difficulty was lreland's opportun
ty; but he asked the electors Of the United Kingdom 10
| return 10 the next Parliament men who would estab
| lsh such mode OF governing Ireland that there
should be "A real and not paper union between the
two islands-tcheers)-tha there should be no DIFF
ference OF sentiment and OF interest and that when
| next the crown and the government OF the country
| shall be exposed TO any difficulty there shall be nc
distinction between the three parts OF the kingdom
In the cordially with which they will rally round oul
| institutions Cheers.) There was one other subject
TO which ne would aude, and that was the question
| Of expenditure, and the increase that had taker
place 10 II since the present government came int
Office He would not attempt to 60 into any detail
but he would state that the expenditure, which wa
very high In 1862, had decreased during the time Mr.
Gladstone had the management OF the finances Of thu
| country, and now had gone up 10 the point which Il
had attained in 1892 In that year the government hat
inherited the reconstruction Of the navy from Sir Johr
Pakington, and they had to deal with the wal
In China, aud the estimates were very large. The
opponents then talked about boated armaDlens, ant
attacked the government account of the expendi
ture. In 1861, just after the Chinese war an attach
was male on Sir q. Z. Lewis for the purpose OF re
ducing the expenditure; and Sir Stafford Northcote
In his "Revew OF Twenty Years OF Financial Ar
! | rangements." abiding 70 the defence whicb na,