The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-10-29


Rev. DR.. Dekoven, OF Wisconsin, stated that some
believe II not to be question OF rites and ceremo-
mes but Of momentous interest to the Church.
others say II is cowardly not to meet 1t. And how
do they propose to meet its by-(sneerngly}-a joint
reso nton. Is that the wayY Are such questions to
able and Intellectual In 1908 the Convention passed
q JOINT resolution against the solemnization OF mar
riages OF divorced persons 1t was ineifectve, and
now AZ this convention sixty Year, after It, we pas
sed law. Hence the present question should be
met with law. Some OF the practices denounced
were the practice OF the undivided Church before the
doctrine transsubstantiation was ever heard or 1t
being introduced only in the tenth century. The
House should, therefore, do nothing hastily,
not, what some say, move towards
Rome, but a protest against rituallsm and a move
ment towards hrmer belief in Rim who speaketh
through His minister's and he beseeched his brethren
not to say that this shall be put down..
Rev. Dr. A. n. Littlejohn, OF Brooklyn, read the
Following, which he proposed TO offer II the motion
on indefinite postponement be voted down. The
resolutions read are in substance nearly to the same
purport as some offered In the morning by Mr.. Rug
giles and declared out OF order as new business:-
Resolved That House OF Bishops requested to
% .s and By s e q
II as may
should be the Ordinary and changes should
be male against the counsel and Indictment q the Bishop
the minority Of the Committee Canons DO transmitted TO
the House Of Bishops.
drawn, and Rev. DIR. Ltei0hn then offered his reso-
uons as an amendment TO the substitute the latter
being the minority report.
Rev. Dr. Mahan believed it too serious matter to
vote on these resolutions without debate. Rev. DR..
Pierce of Alabama, inquired how long 1t would take
TILL the new rubricS proposed might come In force,
and the Chair stated from six to nine years, which
created some sensation. A member inquired whether
a further amendment would be IN order. Some difi-
cult arose as TO the precise position OF the question
before the House; the journal was referred TO and II
appeared that Mr.. Conyngham offered the minority
report as IN amendment, and the Chair stated tnat
an amendment would be III order q substitute for
the whole. Rev. DR.. Van benson, OF western New
as they passed in the General Convention
OF 1874, declaring that the liturgy, of1ces and
articles prescribe the services and the form Of wor
ship and that this House Is not the proper trbunai
for the trial Of minister's whether Of this Church or
otherwise. Rev. DR.. Paddock, Of Michigan, asked
whether it would comport with the dignity Of the
House thus to slide around 1t and declare to the
world that the highest authority Of the Church dared
not express ami opinion. key. DR.. Haight also
IN 1868 resolutions passed IN 1874 for totally different
purpose. As the vote was about TO be taken the
and orders. The result was as follows:-Clerical
vote-diOceses voting, "a; in the Affirmative IL; In
the negative Il divided 2 Lay yosemdioces sa
divided 8; and 80 the substitute Of Rev. Dr. Van
Deusen was lost.
While the vote was being counted several messages
were brought in from the Bishops, the most import
ant OF which was announcing the appointment OF Q
committee OF bishops TO confer with the MetrOpoli-
and Patriarch OF the Russian Church In regard
the Russo Greek diocese OF Alaska and It's proposed
Anglican Bishop OF Rupert's Land IN regard to the
transfer Of the Communicates OF the Church Eof Eng
land In Alaska TO the Jurisdiction OF this Church.
The resolution was concurred in.
RITUALISM RESUMED.
Rev. Or. Watson, OF North Carolina, then offered
another substitute to the whole subject. lie Is not
himself interested In the matter; he 0iciates In the
old fashioned way TO an old fashioned congregation.
Others are not SO situated ana they should have
liberty change the outer forms or service, II he
should so desire, to more decorative worship. The
Either have absolute uniformity for all, which Is
neither advisable nor practicable, or they must de-
clare at these ngs r are no. ~ a anu tho
Rev. william c. Williams, OF Georgia, said that no
minister is subject to the control OF this House by
resolution; he Is subject 10 the canons and
the rubrics, and this matter should be put
into the rubrics. Mr.. William Cornwall pro-
posed to have the TWO reports published IN the
take IL as the warning voice Of the House. A ques-
ton OF order being raised Rev. DR.. Pierce moved to
lay the whole subject on the table, which created
connection and on the vote being taken vast ma
jority refused to table II. The North Carolina sub
ue being read i Was 60 out sns 81 order
"QuestioL.'o 81 have not spoken yet, and 1t is I'M
fair for this House to choke any man down IN is
on',-and the reverend gentleman then argued in
favor Of the amendment OF DR.. Littleyohn rs con-
tanning the true principle Of the Church-submisson
to the bIshops-and from alteration OF this prin-
cple came all the schismatic temper. they now
had men In the Church who as John Randolph said
The drt resolution, the Doctor said, con
templates SIX or nine years before nnai
be little cooler than now. There are good and true
men-extremists on both sides. He goes for the
primitive Church rs II was previous 10 the union OF
State and Church. Some praise Richard Baxter; If
they knew him they would not praise him, for not
withsandlng MS peiy ne d1a as mc a h injury 20
pious.
ed the House that the resolutions are nothing hui
postpon ement OF the subject. and they get nothing
accomplished until the expiration OF from six TO
mise Il: ana Rev. Isaac r. Labagh was OF the same
opinion. on returning home he Will be asked by AL
what has the Church done ON ntuaism, and what
Rev. DR.. Mead OF Connecticut, was prepared to
take the resolutions OF DR.. iftejohn, though ne was
T|tpS are yery indefnite terms The Quaker, with
his broad brimmed hat and straight coat. was
rituast; the Quakeress was ritualst; but strict
QUAKER attire n seldom seen now, because LETT TO It.
SELF Il had nearly died out and ID ufd dpas IN t7rts
bishop refused once to ordain young man be-
have changed our ritual in this twenty years ago
smooth faces were In order, and no man who wears
the appendagc Of nature ~ honorably a. you,
slr-tpoln;ing TO the moving gray beard OF the
Presidentj-could have occupied That chairn
The reverend gentleman believed IL ridiculous for old
about dress and ornaments, and the whole proceed
ing reminded him Of the lines Of Doctor Young
Resembles oceans into Tempest tossed
To watt feather or drowna n.y.
The vote was then taken Or. Lttleohn's
amendment by dioceses and orders, AMI resulted as
fol0ws:-Clerical vote-Dioceses voting, 35 in the
Affirmative q; In the negative, 10; divided 4. Lay
vote-Dioc ses voting s0 in the affirmative Is; In
the negative, s; divided 4; and 80 the amendment
was adopted, the resolution rs amenoed carried, and
thuswa the troublesome subject Of rituaism disposed
OF In q very easy and "crcumbendibus' way, as the
beS and only practical one for no action now be
had until 1874, and perhaps not before 1871
ASSISTANT BISHOPS.
After some other business In the way OF filling
cances committees, Rev. Dr. Howe moved FOR
al-in
bishops, which the bishops refused to concur H.
Kew. DR.. Adams-This Is debateablef
The Chair-les, SIR
Dr. Adanis--Then viii tell the House why no
committee Of conference should be appointed on thus
Ubiquitous canon
The Chair-The gentleman from Wisconsin IL out
OF order.
DR.. Adams-Beg pardon; apologize distinctly.
And the gentleman proceeded at length, stating
that under the canon an assistant bishop may be
elected for reasons 40 numerous IA the English
mans reasons were for drin sing-"beng dry, or