The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-10-28

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approval omission Of any Of soss % ap-
psre and demeanor when mnsteng N ,he s5ctSn
worship and all who, being IN holy orders
OF their bishops and submit themselves to their cody uds
Judge Conyngham then opened the debate. Nc
preferred the minority report. Uniformity Oh INC
worship Is the great advantage or the Cnurcn anu
Ia sought to be broken into by the intro iuction OF
various forms. There is no variety IN the words
used but In the appendages and other sensu" ns
many can go back further there not different
and new things presented nows Is Ito please fancy
ID It to symbolizeY 10 affect the youngs He then
told of young rtnalist entering strange church
asking for the bearings of the compass, as he was
accustomed to reverence always To the east. Where
is the necessity for all this Let us rest on what We
had when the Church was organized and let US abide
Judge Otis. OF Illinois, spoke against the substt-
tute. This Church cannot legisate by resolution,
No clergyman can be tried for violating resolution
Resolutions by,tt1 ftanfi1d and hinder no cler-
gyman from doing as he pleases. IL is unwise to ex
press an opinion which can have no force upon the
not prepared to legslate upon these matters. In
the Church OF England some things denounced In
Ie as unlawful nave neen c'aea 20 -
H. u branch OF the English Church. in full commu-
ni0n as much now as anterior TO the Revolution
What was lawful in that Church was lawful in
the American branch, which was not a new Church
when first established at jamestown, Va 1t was
not made new Church by the Reformation, but
dates back to the Apostles and in its purity is On
Apostolic Church. Let therefore those who want to
worship with high ceremonial do So and those who
III,
neither oyerstep the line OF the dogmas OF the
Church.
Mr. Samuel B. Ruggles had pleaded for tolerance,
when a court OF appeals was proposed to bring
everything within the rigid iron frame Of its rules
The Church exists not in uniformity, but in diver
sity. Even bishops differ and defect point or two
in the direction Of Rome or Geneva. No unvaryln2
To- ne between The ce ar ana a @
Church for the laity is Its variety and federation.
seeking not by force ibut by love to elevate and
save Rome, seeking to enforce uniformity IN Worth
ern Europe lost the best portion Of her faithful. He
begged the clergy to vote for liberation.
Rev. Dr. r. S. Mason, o. North Carolina, was Tor the
substitute There Is certain tendency at times and
some time ago this tendency ran into rltuallsm,
to A. es e r a
exceedingly glad that the minority express his
own opinions and brought their report TO the House
REV. Dr. Haight, OF New York, could not concur in
the views OF the minority because OF certain allega
tons not founded truth and In fact Worship and
substantially alike. and the speaker mentioned the
differences in the service In New YORK ana
tna. t tDe minority ca% that the ritual q
this Church has not been changed. Fifty years
ago there still a clerk in Trinity church, who
said the responses and very seldom was there 8
public baptism in those days. These things have all
changed the clerks desk is gone, and the clerk him
self that deestable nuisance has not been heard Of
for thirty years. Communion was administered
only six seven times year; now II Is monthly.
He referred to this to show the fallacy Of the
minority report He was always In favor OF t0lera-
tom in this he followed Bishop Hobart and his sue
cessors, and did they prosecute any manf LOOK
Here the hammer fell.
Rev Charles Brech, OF Delaware, would say that
gown and no band) was worn for 2fO years. He re-
erred the fact that at Brooklyn and at Baltimore
and other places ne saw the same service a.
Judge Edward McCrsdy, Of South Carolina, denied
emphatically that this II the Church OF England.
Are we the Church OF Scotland? Does not every one
know that we resemble that Church mores Tho
Church OF Ale xandra dered from the Church Of Jeru
salem OF Antioch OF Rome, and all were apostolc 80
do we differ from the Church OF England more than
from the Caurcn 81 sGoand IGey were ss as
lem or OF Antioch as to that OF the church OF
England.
favored the majority report not in the interest u
any party olfChurch faction, but in the interest Of
people know very little and II they be LEFT alone
would know less, about these rtualtstc diculties.
ton OF the house to the third resolution OF the mi
norty report as giving rise to wrong impression.
The House Of Bishops In 1914 did make no provision
vestments but only declared II improper for lay
readers to wear any vestments. But In the Conven-
tion OF 1914 the declaration was made on May 20 by
the bishops that the Episcopal Church is the same
body known as the Church OF England but pOit-
cally severed from the Old Country and the House
OF Deputies concurrcd In the declaration.
Rev. DIR, Andrews Of Virginia, and Rev. DR.. Good
win spoke both In favor of the minority report the
latter gentleman declaring that il the Convention
will not put Its seal Of condemnation upon this abb
erration or ritualism lie would go home with sad
heart.
Rev. DR.. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, OF South
Carolina, considered II not question Of mere vest
ments, but matter OF deep concern. We are now Y
reunited Church in a reunited country, but feared
that rualsm may SOW the seed OF future differences
and perhaps disruption.
The debate was continued at length by Rev. Chris
topher b. Wyatt OF California; Rev. Dr. Frederick d.
Huntingdon of Massachusetts,; Mr.. James r. Fair
banks, OF Tennessee, and others. II was now
thought that vote would be reached on the motions
pending, when Rev. Dr. William Pinckney, OF Mary
land, reOpened the debate by declaring that while
the minority had only eyes for one Lde-rituasts--
they overlooked the other side where the service II
detective. At this stage Rev. Erastus F. Dashie or
Maryland, moved the indefinite postponement OF the
subject After some more speeches on the subject
a vote was being taken, 10y division, to adjourn.
when the President at five p. NJ, declared the House.
| adjourned.