New-York tribune., 1868-02-18
MIR. BRIGHT ON IRELAND.
SPEECH AT BIRMINGHAM, FEB. d.


uding with some severity 70 the speech OF Lord Stanley
Mt Bristol he spoke as follows OF Nr. Roebuck:
Another member Of Parament-nOt general support
er OF the Government but sitting on the Opposition side
declared in the most emphatic manner. that, while
there breath IN his body and blood in hts veins he
countries, Bear IN mind that this gentleman;
four or five years ago, was most determined teq
supporter Of the layeholderS that he went so iaI
10 offer himself envoy between the Emperor OF
the French and the Parliament OF England Win tne
object Of bringing abOut the recognition as dstnet
State Of the savebodng Confederaey There was eVe2
kind OF sander OF the most offensive DESCRIPTION So
determined that their Republic should not be pulled IN
and pow be %ys % as o1ga sr tgs bs be- no
tion between Great Britain and Ireland lCneeIs alu h
augher tell you that ani not mere tohghe
argue that question Of separation I0r ~ ~ q1Ite VI.
necessary; but venture TO say tins Inat ne Ssoe ht
Ministers who have no remedy 20 on % put
merely passages of speech Of defiance IKE TINS ana the
partisan supporters Of government MO Ho can sPeaS @ suUn %
passages as those nave quo.Su' rs3 arc . no. %
friends OF union, but IN my 0plho,h tney 3ey are {
Force and fraud and corruption OF an uhparaleled Gha
acter tie hy which the extinction Of the Irish
word 10 say of the separation of the two
tries lcheeT yet VIII not hesltat0o this that the
that their right to protest against and their right TO
seek for restoration OF their Parliament II they think 1t
would be advantageous TO them, has not been, and can
not be destroyed Now, with regard to this question OF
observation, which this that shall never consent
nion mi II @ Is proved that in Epgand statesmShship ia
right and Justice have failed TO Influence mankind.
cr fS % STpa he fP and co5tro
versy with regard TO Ireand-v2. the Church and the
land; But these questions are much more than
questions of Parliament and controversy. These
tion or the decay Of the Empire. These two ones.
tions tine beginning aud the end Of this terrible
nk on hc whole tia. the scotch are aSei
national than the Irish. They very ready always to
part Of the world. but scOtlah is member Of great
nation with which she is content Well Ireland Is also
also content 70 be portion OF greater nation and to
a greater Power. believe much as believe that
that a Parliament in Dublin can do that the Imperial
is nothing with regard to the true Interests OF the
winch Parliament London cannot do there is nothing
which Ireland do for herself II she part Of the
American UIion which our statesmen IN London II right
and just cannot also do for Ireland Cheers Suppose
We had Parliament IN Dublin that elected by the
free and equal vote Of the householders Of the IRISH ma
tOn body believe that there would exist IN that
name Of the Protestant Established Church tCheers
Let nobody suppose that am hostile 10 o Protestant
testant Of Protestants Laughter and cneersl can
have no kind OF religious sympathy with the organza
tices OF the Roman Catholic Church; and, therefore,
when speaking OF the Protestant Church am speak
ing purely OF political State organization II any man
will say with sueh Parliament in Dublin the Irish
people would permit that political state Sh9reh 10 exist
he must believe that Ireland Is nothing better than
huge l9natis asylum L05d cheers ana dSg9se FDgsnd
beng the most powerful section Of the three king
supporting that Church against the known opinion and
the thousand repeated protests OF the great majority OF
taned there for the sake OF building up in time past what
was considered the English interest supremacy party
was established with the idea OF preserving the union
with Engand. and it has become in our time. more than
other institutions. that which impetls that union
believe that nobody who really can have any
kind Of claim for thinking on the question
M say S Great a ne cpS Oe pfsSnd any to
ireland on the principles ana 10 accordance with the pre-
pther day saw think the latest estimate that has
made OF the property Of the Irish Church IL wasesated
a principal sum OF not less than 91SOOOOOO sterling
Now cannot tell you how much e19O0OOOO sterling is
write down In figures and yOu hear can speak
notion OF what meant by el3OOOOOO sterling But what
the section Of the Irish people into whose hands that
gous purposes and teachng Why, the whole Protestant
population in Ireland and s0pp9e N oe Ireland Ian mo nG oTS
IoHSSSts rs IlanS the Protestant Church popu
sSS1hoT it 80 at sn ovSy. the population OF two
Birmingham Tnf @ Of is great city and the City Of Man
s%ared &c to them the vast sum Of 900 and the in
from II annually under the pretense OF religious
the Protestans are bit better regiousy taught than
either Presbyerans or Catholics Ia point of fact It Is
huge political job which Ohght never 10 have existed,
and which. having existed. ought long ago 10 have
bt Si t Fr PsTlismsnt syes The interest of
more than million Of money, being 10000 IN every
land as bribe that 1t may not say anything about the
600 which is gwen TO the Protestant Church Now
have DO idea Of saying anything against the PrOesants
of reaDdther present circumstances Of their
ereang-and stl less shall say anything against
the ministers OF their oburch for doubt not there s TO
found among them irprOporton Of energetic Chris
tan men, finding themselves In adverse and unfortunate
circumstances, but s probably la6oring honestly in the
places to which they have been appointed eheers but
OF the institution political institution win venture
TO say that the time OF It's mall mas .. nearly .
come cheersb and that 1t is essential TOT e the
country for the maintenance Of the union with England
IN peace II is essential that every trace OF Protestant
When Il comes be abolished, would do Injustice
either to the ministers or the members Of that Church
OF course all life interests would be cared for and pre-
served, and II It were not that should take up too
much OF your time, and that feel myself unable 10
90 through what / wished 10 say. would O little
elaborate plan by which think some justice might
be done with regard to the disposition OF the Iunds
Church OF lreandis gradually disposed Of think II tho
hope some Of my TOncOnformst friends who have very
strong opinions on this question, and perhaps nave not
little charity for me when say believe it would be
just cahedras and churches and ministers and
those OOO into the hands OF the State and to
throw the whole of the present Protessnt ChuTeh OF
hear think there should be some very smal-it might
not be THINK m ought 20 DO 9ot SeSr
OF that whole amounts but that Win ths eonalon
tants received whatever was appropriated to them
they would become the Episcopalan Church IN scot
iutey disconnected from the state, and altogether
Voluntary Institution. lCheersl think whatever was
done In that way would also have 70 be followed up In
pther directions. Heat hear With regard to o the
Presbyterans Of Ireland, who are receiving $4,000
year from the State, think 1t would be quite easy,
perfectly lust probably most polite TO make some mod
appropriation 10 them out OF the same fund.- while
the Reil OF $4,000 thenceforth ought TO be dis
continued. believe Parliament would also feel justified
In making the great Catholic population OF Ireland
similar moderate or small appropriation to enable
fhe Catholic Church In certain parishes 10 have small
ebe and modest house for the minister OF that Church,
but In all these 1t should be distinctly understood
and enacted that when that R2,O0OO00 or a3OO0OOO
for AZ could not take more than 93,OC0.OO0 In Gil
was thus appropriated, all those Churches would
be ipdependent and free Churches IN Ireland-pOt
In any way connected with the State, and that
fhenceforh no person in authority and no law OF Par
nv