Delaware tribune. [volume] (Wilmington, Del.) 1867-1877, 1868-04-09

George w. Karsner sworn, and examined by
Mr.. Butcr.-- Witness is citizen of Delaware;
knows Cen Thomas; saw him at II Presidents
lcvee at the White House and had IL conversation
with him. Iapproached Thomas and told him
had known him wears ago. Gen. Thomos told
me lie was n Delaware boy, and knew that very
well. extended my hand to lin aud he took
1t, and | reminded him that had known him
years ago. He asked me how .hngs were in
Delaware and made somr reply, aud then told
him that the eyes Of Delaware were upon him
laughter and that he should stand firm. He
said he was standing firm, renewed laughter,
and that the people Of Delaware would not be
disappointed, for that in two or three days he n-
tended to kick that fellow out told him again
what Delaware expected Of him, and he repeated
out. Increased laughter. When he said he
would kick that fellow out lie did not mention
any names, ilor did he indicate whom he r., lred
to, but understood him To mean MIR. Stanton,
although he did not say il was he.
Cross-cxamned by MIR. Stinbcry. Witness
does not recocct when | Q fist saw General
Thomas before March last; uid see him, however,
few years ago; lhinks he saw him in New Cas-
tic last summer, but it may have b,cii longer ago
New Castle.
Y. Upon which OF the streets?
A. Well, there are not many streets in New
Castle, lnightel /. witness remembers that one
day he was standing in front Of the Court lonse
ut New Castle, aud saw General Thomas on the
opposite side of the street; don't rccollrct II he
was walking or standing; ON the occasion re-
fcrred to, in March, did not come to Washington
especially To STE General Thomas; was at the
lcvee with gentleman Of this city named John
a..
johnson and ull the members Of the cabinet, and
not seeing General Thomas ut first, Mr.. Tanner
pointed HIM out to me.
Witness was here nterro gated as to his visit to
the White House. and answered ny upon his ex-
animation In chief.
Question by Mr.. Stanbcrry. not The idra
OF kicking out first come from you?
Witness.-No, sr; no, sir
q. You are suref
A. / am, sir.
q. When General Thomas said he would kick
that fellow out, what did you reply'
A. Well. the language was rather severe. /
Thought, aud did not ut first reply, but after
awhile sad Delaware will expect something
from you Laughter.
q. Was there much more conversation?
A. Before left Gen. Thomas renewed the de-
sire Of Delaware. Renewed laughter.
Q. Do you think you were authorized to speak
for Delaware on that subject
A. Well, when people are away from home
they think II good deal about ii, and like tu tell
other people what their people think
q. Were you in sympathy with Delaware upon
this subject?
MIR. Butler objected. This was not the proper
vay 10 ascertain the sympaihcs of Delaware
with regard To the War Department.
Mr.. Stnnbery thought it would 20 10 show
what the sympathies of witness were, but he
| would waive that question and ask another.
q. Did you give General Thomas any further
advice?
A. Mo sir; did not
| O. After you lett Gen. Thomas, to whom did
| you communicate this conversation?
| A. First to my friend, Mr.. Tanner told him
that cveuing.as we were walking along the street.
| Don't recolect to whom told il next, but told
| il to several other persons
| q. Can't you reeollect one to whom you told
itf
A. Yes, a gentleman from Delaware.
q. Well, what is his name?
A. (Afler some hositation.) Well, his name il
MIR. Smith. Laughter.
Q. What was the first name OF this Mr.. SMITH
A. II was not John. Renewed laughter.
q. Well, what was 1t ii it was not John?
A. / think il was William.
Q. Where did you see Mr.. William Smith?
A. In Washington.
| Q. Whereabouts?
A. On the street. Laughter
q. Was 1t near The court house?
A. did not know there was a Court llous'
here.
O. Whereabouts was Ii, then?
A. On the avenue.
Q. The AVENUES very long On what part O
IL?
A. Near the Capitol
@. What did you tell William Smith?
A. just what have told you.
@. What part of Delaware is William Smitl
from?
A. He lives on the banks of the Bra.idywint
Laughter.
, Chief Justice Chase at this point suggested thi
this examination had gone far enough and this
nothing useful was to be accomplished by pu
suingit.