New-York tribune., 1868-04-03
YORK, FRIDAY, APRIL 3. 1865

Gen Grant Of date February 10 1853 IL is the original
| Senator HowARD-Is that an original
| Mr.. WILsON-It ia the original.
tice it appears that this is letter pportlng to be part
OF the correspondence between Gen. Grant and the Pres
intention TO produce the entire correspondence
Mr. wIIsoN.lt is not our intention TO produce any
Mr.. sTANBERY rcturnng the letterl-No other part Of
the coTrssp9pSenSse @ n bqt this II, letter. o 20
/ Mr.. STANBERY-I wish the honorable Managers 10
| what is the object for what charge
Mr. WILSON, may state as the especial object for the
ton OF the President to his intent to prevent the seere
tary of War Mr. stanon resnming the duties OF the
you desire { read, e Mr. r, sl%n6sFyJ tanG.a
MIR WILSON read the letter, which is that in which the
President nclosed the testimony Of his Cabinet on me
which Mr. wilson did not read
Mr.. sTANBERY--I have asked the honorable Manager
he has read all that he intends TO- In that letter Ger
tain letters referred TO OF which 1t Is explanatory
Do yon propose to read them! ,uo.o.o o.
Offer ,.,,r.
| and documents that accompany that letter
Mr wILsON-I will state to the counsel that we offer
letter OF the President Of the United States We pro
posed to offer IT, We have offered it. 1t in evidence
Mr.. STAYBERY-we ask that the documents referred
m sSt s the letter
the @ have W & 20 Consider Gsr Tfn en ney come
Mr. there were ,baS pGstSScrW
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| teri 1t is there as written By the President. ..
Mr.. sTANBERY-we will ask a ruling upon that point,
On the first Of my letter the matter s referred TO
which will read. He read portions Of the letter en-
phasizng the Presidents quotations from Gen. Grants
tanlDg many gross misrepresentation also the portion
referring the letters nccsod saying he left them to
| speak for themselves, without comment That-Mr
stanbery eontnued-s the answer TO the statement.
Mr. GRP4se s SoHnsI IL T % T propoe nSs s" o o @
Mr. sTASBERY-We submit that the gentlemen arc
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Mr. WIisON-The objection is too late now, Il it had
any force at the proper time The letter is submitted anu
| The CHIEFJUsflCE made remark, lnaudible TO the
gallery, which was understood TO favor Mr. Wilson's
Mr. EvARTs-Our point s Mr. Cmef-Justice that
those Enclosures form part Of the communication made
| nv The President TO Gen Grant, and assumed that
they would be read part Of this letter. as matter o
MIR BINGnAM-we desire to state, Mr. President, that
lot aware Of any Obligation by any rue OF eSi
10 admit In evidence the statements referred TO generally
By hin, In that written statement, Of third persons I'D
the fist place, their evidence, We claim, would h0t nc
evidence against the President at al; they would be
learsay they would not be the best evidence OF N,a @
! the parties had said. The matter cOntaIneu III @ lnc
| letter Of the President shows that tie papers
wG we are s'Ss1 * i,ct Himself and Cen
Grant This question Of fact far as the flesldeht Is
concerned assumed by the President M inns ieltcp yer
himself, and for himself and concludes NM ana We a
ss that forty members OF his Cabinet were 10 uhe
II il his own declaration about matter Of dispute be
tween hmsef Gen Grant and that which Il referred
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| rely in this accusation against the President
| MIR sTANBERYWe rely upon IT.
| Mr. BINGHAM-Of course the gentlemen rely upon "
and they ask 10 read matter which is no part OF the
evidence all 10 Is not the highest evidence we are
about matter Of fact aud IS have said this letter
claims that this Is material fact claim that so iar as
testimony and that by rule Of evidence competent
admit, that the letter according to the statement mere
showed statement adopted by the President IN regard
70 The matter OF ne ehRis S y woaa n1 Of ihe re OF
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point at all assert that Is not competent 70 oher I'd
evidence the statement Of any Cabinet officer whatever
that t has not any bearing upon the letter now read
to show that his purpose swas TO prevent .i
Secretary OF War, after being confirmed by thc sci
and The appointment Of Thomas being nonconcurred ~
nom ctCrIng upon aud forthwith performing as the law
requires the duties OF his Office. That is the point OF ts
letter We introduce 4 for he purpose OF sho~hg the
the letter being offered for the reasons have already
stated these statements are foreign to the ease @ ana are
under no obligation to Introduce hen' anu III MY J''S
msnt hqyeB B Ts9t IT. to ptFoGgse them
The b the sr f4gnsei Tor the rre'ioen,
The ooection was prepared accordingly by Nr Curtis.
ana y direction OF the ChefJustice the Clerk read as
TIE esaHsei for be President object that The letter not in evidence
hs honorable Naasgs snail a,g read the no1e'
| MIR sTANBERY-Is the question now before your
Thc cITF.Ir STICE-It j. before the court, sir.
| Mr. sTANBERY-n the Managers read letter from
the President TO Use aghns. I I'm S % d n, tno,y
the object They The object Is To- prove certain IN
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once In TINT letter tho President has referred to GER
tan documents which inclosed In 1t throwing light
upon the question and explaining his own views. Now
mi n to the honorable SenatOrs suppose he had copied
these letters himself in the body Of Tie letter and had
mai of NV communication" would any doubt that
| although they came from other persons he can II ne
chooscs use them as explanatory of his letter lie
scnds along with the letter certain explanatory matters
and he took the trouble Of referring to them 10 e body
o his letter suppose he attaches them 10 IT, makes
,s etar hy tape or seal or otherwise shoad they not
l. n mar Of
matter which Is introduced as explanatory without
which he not willing TO introduce that letter Ger
taInlyi Is il not fair TO read with il the letters that
part OF II II seems TO me iha they mus, Isa @ ine M
Mr WIISON-The Managers do not suppress anything
letter complete itself letter written by The Presi-
dent. and signed by the President In which u IS true e
refers 20 certain statements made by members OF te
Cabinet touching question Of veracy pending between
the President and Gen. Grant Now We Insist that that
contained in the letter which by any possibility. he
considered as the elements Of ihe case IS rendered Dy
dent referring TO the said enclosures show tha those IN
pending between himself and Gen Grant, ana are In no
wise connected with tho question between the fIesdeh
The CIIEFJ USTICE stated the case, not 50 Is to be
heard by the reporters, however.
M. WIISON-We expect TO use the letter Tor any
proper purpose connected with the issues OF the case We
TO the consideration OF the Senate.
Senator CONKIING--I offer the following request II
calls for the reading ot he House ie4ea upon Os 'c
counsel ,. .......... ~. ..- ~.
TheSTCRT'fAnY read the request a. follows
"fe the will Pieiss read The words N the letter
relied upon touching the inclosure.'
Mr. STANBERY read ID "a fUllOws
GtSEP, The extraordinary cb,acet of your letter ot me ~ my
vead TO preclude ,ny reP on ny Pl but tle TsHnsI m & " Es @
pubicr has been given ~ the eoespndence o when th @ @
p,r grove charges which involved induce me 70
giving proper sequel 10 tbo communieaons VINCE
between the statements % the i've members oi e O
Of conversation on he "
ut Cope, the letters which h addressed TO me upon ihe o
eef accordingly herewith transmitted,
The CIIIEFJUSTICE stated the question.
M EREIINGHINSEN Z,
which were ordered. ,,,,-,,..