The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-07-07
mond, Of California substitute for. that Of Mr.

Resolved rha. candidates for President may BE- put IN
nOmirs.ion but The: no ballot be had until platform Of
Mr. W. BIaLER-I claim to have occupied the floor
nom the beginning The gentleman from Connecti-
proposition. heard his proposition, but did not
give way. am therefore, take II, in possession Of
The CHAIRxAN-The gentleman dses not under.
stand the OF events Before he had taken the
door the gentleman from California oered the reso
Chair Therefore his resolution is just in order. 1t
was strictly before the Convention when onered by
Chair By the Clerk for the Of the Com
ventlon so they may understand the question Pc
fore them 1t is the opinion Of the Chair the question
comes upon the amendment offered by the gentle
man from California mr. Hammond) to the resolution
Of the gentleman from pennsylvania (dr. Blglerl.
Mr.. BlGLER-Then make point OF order upon
the amendment. II is precisely in substance what
this body has voted down repeatedly. Threfore, 1t
| Is not in order.
The CHAIRMAN-The motion Of the gentleman from
Pennsylvania was this:-NOt that the Convention
should proceed to baAot, but that the Convention
should proceed to nominate delegates. The gentle
man from California proposes by his amendment so
to modify that resolution that no vote snail be taken
to nominate until after the adoption OF the platform.
Tie Char thinks that is resolution different from
any that has been offered heretofore and Is modi-
ton OF the resolution OF the gentleman from Penn
syvania.
Mr.. BlGLEa--It would be in order provided it was
divided.
The CuAlRMAN--It is in the power of the gentle
man to call a division OF the question:
Mr.. BfGIER-l can for division Of the question.
So far as it regards excluding ballot until plat
form Is adopted is ole division, all that precedes II IS
another.
Nh. VALLANDIGHAM-I would like to ask what
became OF the motion of the gentleman from Mis-
souri, II understand 1t Is still undisposed OF.
The proposition can only come on rs an amendment
TO the amendment, no further amendment being IN
order.
The CuAIRMAN-The gentleman from Ohio is right.
The question before the Convention is the adoption
OF the resolution OF the gentleman from MISSOURI,
which mas escaped the attention of the Char.
The SECRETARY then read the following resolu-
ton
Resolved That ballong for candidates for President
Vice President made until after the Commit
tee on Resolutions be received and adopted
The CHAIR-The question, then, is on the resolution
OF the gentleman from Pennsylvania
MI. BIGLER-i desire to modify that resolution and
to submit motion that the States be called in their
regular ORDER and the names OF candidates be pre-
sented, and there be conceded to each State nve
minutes 20 present the claims and character OF the
candidate whom they desire this Convention TO vote
The SECRETARY having read the resolution 1t was
received with applause.
A DELEGATE understood to be Mr.. Brewer, of
Pennsyvania) said it occurred to him this morning,
When the motion was made by the gentleman from
Pennsylvania TO put in nomination candidates for
President and Vice President to be voted for that it
was out OF order, out OF the usual custom and be-
yond the landmarks of the democratic party. Here
tofOre in national convention there had been
no nominations made to the convention, but
every State had had the right and had been per-
United to vote for any gentleman in tins coun-
try whom the democratic party might be
SO disposed to vote for. # now they placed
should then close there would DE no power on this
earth or In the Convention by which the Convention
could afterwards vote for man whose name was
not before the Convention.
such power. The gentleman says that this resou-
ton Is correct and the other one incorrect accord
ing to the usages Of the democratic party. They
wanted nomination, but to have every State pre-
their candidate and vote FOR him as they seemed
disposed 10 do.
ANOTHER PHASE OF THE PLATFORM RESOLUTIONS
Mr.. HAMMOND, OF Caliiornia-There is resolution
he InV rpg II ionQ 40 n
Substitute for that
Resolved, That nominations are now in order for
ddes for the Presidency and Vice Presidency but that
ballot;ing be had until the platform be adopted
DELEGATE from Nevada trust, sir, the re-
solution offered by the gentleman from California Will
not prevail. 1 further desire to state that in the
opinion Of the delegates upon this floor 1t is the
duty-nay, the prlvege-of delegates to nominate a
President and not gentlemen who are assembled in
the outside. trust the Sergeant-at-Arms will be
instructed to see that order is observed for the bust
ness of the Convention 1t 10 quite offensive to hear
so much noise and appreciation.
A DELEaATE here rose and moved the previous
question, but the motion was not seconded.
The CHAIRMAN-The question before the COnven-
ton Ia on the amendment or substitute, OF the gen.
teman from California, and vote by States is
called for.
Mr.. BIGLER-I shall be obliged to call for the read
ing Of that resolution this body has already de-
cided three times In succession against the latter
part of 1t.
The CHAIRMAN stated the gentleman from Penn
sylvania called for division OF the question: which
contained two distinct propositions.
The SECRETARY read the resolution again stating
that candidates for President and Vice President
might now be placed in nomination under which the
vote should be taken, but no balloting be had until
adopted,
motion for a division OF the question and said he
would take vote on the whole resolution.
The CHAIRMAN stated that on the call Tor the roll
Of States the delegates had i've minutes to prepare
Mr.. PONDER, of Delaware, proposed the Conven.
The CHAIRMAN-The delegates will take five min.
utes TO know how they will vote on this question.
me vote by States was then taken on the adjourn
ment, as folows:-
The following is the vote in detail:-
YEAsAlabama, Arkansas California Delaware, rorida
Sss.SS.e. %lehissn Nnness's asaspP Misse
~ Ssysas New dew erssy s sw aop
Tennessee Texas, Vermont Virginia, West Virginia ~ Wis
NAYs.Connsc.cu,, Georgia / Indiana, Iowa ~, Ken.
Yssy Me IN s,ysnd Min arSus q so PENNY
syina4na, West vrsai. '''''A o o''0 'enn
When the chairman Of the New York delegation
announced their vote IN the Affirmative large num-
Der OF spectators left their seats in the hall and
started towards the door. great deal OF noise and
THE wore ON THE NOTION TO ADJOURN.
Quiet having been again restored
The CHAIR announced the vote-29o In the afnrm-
alive and 81 in the negative The announcement
was greeted with loud applause.
ApJoURNxRNT UNTIL TO-DAY.
The CHAIR-The Convention viii adjourn until to-
| morrow morning at ten O'Clock.
The Convention then, at ten minutes past six
| O'Clock, adjourned until ths morning.
Before the, delegates had dispersed the Secretary
announced that the Pennsylvania delegation would
meet al nine O'Clock this morning at Irving Hall.
DELEGATES FROM THE TERRITORIES.
The names Of the delegates from the Territories
admitted to seats the moor In pursuance of
luton adopted, Thomas w. Belts Of Idaho Ter
ritory, Thomas Z. Evershed, OF Arizona Territory.
CONVENTION GOSSIP.
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The Connecticut delegation il mostly at the Uofy-