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Mr. BUTLER proceeded 10 read the manuscripts Of tho
BY Mp Smith, and without the corrections made IN the
Senator AYTHONY proposed 10 call mp the order which
he had previously offered In Legislative session. refer
enee to admission OF reporter for the Associated
The CHIEFJUsrICE ruled that it was not in order,
senator Conkling had offered it originally -,
Mr. ANTiIONY-Then move that the Presiding OF
fcer he authorized to assign place on the floor of the
senate 70 the reporter OF the Associated Press
Mr. CONkI.ING-Onc single reporter
The CHHFJUSTICE ruled that the proposition was
Mr n EVARrs asked Mr. Builer what copies or versions
Of the Presidents speech he considered in evidence
Mr.. BUTLER said Be considered two copies In eNt
dence; the one made by SIR smith nnd the one which
had by the Presidents private Secretary
Mr BuTkER"I do not offer Tie Chronicle; not be
cause II lot evidence, but have the same Things ia
Mr. TVARTs~Then 1t is those two reports you oneri
Mr.. BurLER-Yes and they will be both printed ~
MR. WILLIAM y. HESDERsoS's TESTIMONY,
william n. Henderson, sworn and examined by Mr..
Butler.
O. What is your business A am Journalist By oc-
clpatlon ,-, >. c,o.o,.., o,,o
ni A. The Ciereiapd Leatsr.
O. Where were you about the 80 or 4th Of September
O. What was your business then A. was then one
@ Did ycn hear speech made by President johnson
from the balcony Of lhe hotel there A. did ,
Q. Did you report IL! A. did, with the assistance "i
''S'lS Q. Who Is bei a. Ills name is johnson.
q. Was your report published in the paper the next
day A. II
q. Have you a copy of fitl A. have.
Witness produced it.
O. Have You your original hottest 4, / have not.
q. Where are they A. cannot teli they are prob
O. What can you say to accuracy of yonr report
except portionsf A. A part VAS verbatim ana part
O. Does the report distinguish the parts which lot
verbatim from the parts which are! A. IL does.
O. state whether anything that Mr. johnson SAID IS eh
Sir. EvARTs-whch Johnson-the President, or the
Mr. BUTLER-T mean Andrewlast aforesaid.
WltnessIThe report leaves out portions Of Mr..
Johnsons speech and states that in synoptcal form
There are words which he did not in stating The
substance of what was said. There is nothing sub
@ When was that report preparedi 4. 1t prepared
on the evening of the delivery Of the speech. a.,
@. Did You see 1t after ii was printed! A. did.
q. Did you ever examine Iti A. did.
O. What can you say to the accuracy Of the report
best OF my recollection il was accurate
O. How far is accurate where he substance puTpors
be given! A II gives in substance the SENSE WITHOUT
@ Taxing the synoptical part OF the verbatim part Of
the report does the whole together give the substance OF
what he said on that occasoni A. It does.
vo gdt y the S Court Haven't You got the Xtorneyen
eralf Who IL your ChiefJustieet Is that the ynoptal
part or that verbatim reporti A. 1t is part'of til.
crCssexanned by Mr.: EvARTs; ,.,
o This newspaper which you edit and for which you
report OF the politics OF the President or opposite
opinion politicsi A. 1t was Republican IN politics.
@ Opposite TO the views of the President as you under
stand them A. Yes. -,
@ At what time was this speech madei A. About The
third OF September about nne o'clock In the evening
O. When did it concludei A. l think about quarter
o. Was there large crowd therei A. There was
% of s Sn5 5ReIPs e Gr " the
O. The balcony from which the President spoke MAS
also crowdedi A. II was.
Q. Were you in sight of the Presdenti A. Yes
q. And what conyenlences or arrangements had yon
for taking notes A took them on my knee
O. Where did you get hight fromi n From the ga
above. -. . =. -.
out your notes A. About Il o'clock. ,
O. When did you hnishi A. Between u and lcoloek
Did you write the synopcal report from your
or from your recollection of the DRIFT OF the speech A
o. You added nothing, you think, to the notesf A.
o. But you did not produce all that was the notes
did not Iendeasored to copy the substance OF what
Q. You meant the meaning, do you not, that is, the
O. What you mean exactly is that you meant to give
the drift Ofthe whole when you didn't report verbatim
O. Did you not leave out any of the drift A. Not to
q Have you ever looked TO sect A. have not com
pared the speech with my fat report OF IA ~ subsequently
compare the speech with my notes.
O. This - drift" parti A. 1 mean to say that com
o. The part that is ynoptcal-dd you compare that
with your nOtesf A. Yes.
q. When did your notes dsappeari A. In the course
of two weeks; they were not preserved at au; q, yam
@. you sure that you compared inc report o 'ou
notes the following day A. am m, Al,
o. Did you destroy your notes Intentionally A. hh
o, Then where are theyi A. cannot tell.
O. Now in reference to the Part OF te & speGfn ms SS ,
writing them out that night compare the transcript WIN
'o Por the purpose Of seeing that accurate
a, n When was tbatl A. Next day.
q with what assistance A. Without any assistance
ng nS IIS vom ~ md any ciangei A. There y
biographical errors ia the reading OF the PROOF; iere
Were there no errors in the transcript from yom
uofesi A did not compare the transcript matter VIII
my notes; compared Mtr T. IS pr printed. notls
g That was not my question. But you DID compare
the speech as printed with your notes ana n3' x1 s
transcript A. Yes, with my notes. hO' Win 'N0 '""
q Did You find that there we're any errors IN The
printed report, compared Win Your ofsihai hooe
iIvaS InS NO others T. not that remember 49,
SssSsI PpaEEeS@ SisE @5s SS WITH You your
poes nnd that the report u the printed paper was soso
lute r sCrTeSti o A. T4ey ~SsS Common Writing
q Written out IN long-handi A. Yes sr' s.o an, II
o. Now do you mean to say that you eau & m rom ths
long hand word for word speech as u Go % grts ont
mouth OF a speakcri A In THIS instance uiu "-'''
| portions of the speech. -. .,o, nara worth
St,as exSent of a part Of the speechi A. lha' - W.
And Won made the synopsis VI the drin as u "eh'
| alOngi A. Yes. ,s ,,bere Won should ~,
n aecuratey and the parts where you snont give W.
Pt, Pcu, a. Whenever IL was possible to report corree
UNI urn rnn dd So and when was unable 10 Keep up
gave the substance times s asS rs sepse
1er ~ writing in long hand was able to Keep up win
| ~ ,s r,narks of the President - a, -, 49,.
| ~ Ihen this report was not maue py TIC ai" VI '''
| ,,rat;niv arr short handf A. No, Sir -. - ,,,u
iyd vou abbrevate write out the Worus III ii'