New-York tribune., 1868-04-13

the Bank of England are published to-day over the
signatures of its officers The outflow Of specie still
continues and the amount on hand this week is fully
f27aOOO sterling less than last week To-day the
weather has been delightful and favorable for the
crops
THY GREAT DEBATE on THE IRISH CHURCH.
sPEECHEs by GLADSTONE, LORD STANLEY,
AND JOHN BRIGHT.
The great debate on the Irish Church in the
Houso Of Commons began on Oct 30 and attracted an
audience which IT'S numbers and the eager interest
with which 1t followed every incident and argument
not surpassed by any memorable nights the
two Reform sessions The House was densey crowded
both the floor and IN the galleries. while the peers and
60 Item but oyerowed into the corridors and passages
The debate opened by the Clerk at the table reading
(ou Mr. Gladstones mOtOn) the Acts, rather, the
titles Of the acts relating TO the Established Church in
tho Act Of Union be read and after hs had been done
Mr. H. T. Surtees called on the Clerk TO read the Corona
ton Oath This led 10 some delay, the Clerk not being
forthcoming and the oath read at length both sides
cheering alternately the passages Whh seemed 10 IaVOi
their especial views.
Mr Gladstone then rose loudly cheered by the Oppo-
siiOn, TO move that the House resolve itself into
Committee 10 consider these acts He began by happy
cfereBce 10 the motions just made, accepting them as
Cu that some members al least would meet his motion
by proposition equally broad and ntelgioe as his own
aud the solemn controversy on which the House was en-
tering HO1a DC conducted without tr4ck or eohtrlV
auce." This phrase elected loud cheers and
counter chcTrs from bOtn sides, Dut Mr. GlaQ-
stono made haste 10 except Lord 5tanleys amend
ment from this category. by admitting that It was
amendment entirely within his discretion, and fairly
Tai-lns the merits OF the case His general object Mr.
Gladstone went on 70 explain. was 10 commit the
house 20 the opinion that the Irish Church as an
establishment should cease to exist ana though he ga
uO hold i TO be his duty 10 undertake responsibility fOr
era bases OF q settlement The cessation OF the Irish
Church establishment must be accompanied by the
condition that every proprietary night and every vested
interest receive ampest consideration aud sat
taction: and more t1an that everything Wlnen oOua %
M iuprei Il %
couciliaton. and every doubtful claim even must be
nouuoed e DaDteu ance In Ireland Of clergy sal
aired by the state Among the claimants FOR
nueaed not only the holders OF Deneces, hut those
who devoted themselves 70 the clerical profession IN
expectation Of succeeding 10 these eenices the pryae
holders Of adVOwsOns whO owned about Onesxh OF the
Church patronage Of Ireland and he added that recent
,ndowmeDts must also b respected The result OF al
thli shat he descri57d as the Anglican eomInanity
Hould i"-ll IN possession Of from threelthh 70 Two
& q he P gGS1s S As Ssf InS fhSfT Se osPEeS SPSSYs az
lnsh fund to be used solely for sae pehent OF te
& GGP6 % he ao Eas GnsF @@s e asd CSss on Exactly
principles. % pat end 10 all grants from the Con
nation In Ireland Mr. Gladstone next defended the Lib
crii party and himself from the charge Of not having
Of sudden apOstacy" aimed at himself he men
toned that p years ago. IN letter relating TO an election
Iaantn the hsh hEhurch principle and nc attributed
DIS defeat oxford the views nc had expressed IN
Of ihs Irish chufch he diatsd n great length the
objection that ~ would endanger The lstabshed Church
b greatly strengthened BY being relieved Of this political
ana social injustice He showed, too, IN an elaborate
historical and statistical argument that though the penal
laws had been successful In keeping down the number OF
t1uan Catholics, when had begun To relax them the
WopoOn between the two bodies had rapidly altered in
la,or of the Roman Catholics, and the OK
i~.ituent Of State Church, therefore bad en-
tley failed 10 propagate Professionalism. Passing 10 his
second and third resolutions Mr. Gladstone said that
tAer object 70 arrest the creation OF new vested
rights 40 that the newcOnsNelcies might DO free
a. ually deciding the question, acknowledged
Lat legislation would be necessary carry out the
luons On this point MI Gladstone repudIated the
strongest language the intention OF merely projecting
Ito an abstract resolution "a mode OF procedure
vhirh. he said had always been msohev0us, oud for
/ Which ho never lad and never willingly would be re-
s1onsble. CTitlcising Lord Stanley's amendmeut he
Iod that 81 would convey Consolation TO the Irish
PpulatiOn that Il indicated desire to aeitate tie
4 g-estion (Which he himself had carefully eschewed
layag patiently waited until the hour bad GOMEZ
All that u showed very little respect for the new
d larIaIneDt, inasmueh as II Declined 10 remove out
n dsiuK pfaccsy with the question Dealing next with
1c argument that this concession would not pacfy the
1Snan Catholics ME Gladstone enteHed into an hstor
ia been the oect OF apPrehenslons ana aiter exa1nn
ne present crisis ne concluded eloquent peroraton
ye1LOrng the House 20 assist in building NJ, ey the
ent of human concord the noble tabIlo OF the British
Lord Stanley moved as an amendment.l" That this
a'ase, while admitting that considerable notifications
. me enpOrates OF the United Church in Ireland may,
pending inquiry, appear 20 Do expedient, Is Of
uOn mat any proposition tending 20 the dieestablisb
sI,ed for the decision Of new Parliament he com
Jrssa " echong Dir. Oladstone's condemnation OF o
G great efforts wopld Sc made 70 put the question on
1asxl lssne: hr. GladstODo's resolutions his
sd 10 objected to them rst q ali, bee they were
As swallowed out no practical plan, aud might
- dsssiaSsa..I ds1Isa IN any sense Those who meant
control might accept the resolutions with the
H'''1 that they should retain tho endowment. Tho