The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1868-04-03

Cross-examined by Mr.. Stanbery: Wit.
ness does not recolect when he first saw
General Thomas before March last did
see him, however, few years ago: thinks
he saw him in New Castle last summer
but it may have been longer ago than that
saw him that time upon the street in New
Castle.
Q. Upon which of the streets9 A. Well
there are not many streets in New Castle
laughterl; witness remembers that one
day he was standing in front of the court.
house at New Castle, and saw General
Thomas on the opposite side of the street
don't recollect if he was walking or stand.
ing; on the occasion referred to in March
did not come to Washington especially to
see General Thomas; was at the levee with
q gentleman of this city named John R.
Tanner went to the White House to see
Mr.. johnson and all the members of the
Cabinet, and not seeing General Thomas
at first, Mr.. Tanner pointed him out to
me.
Witness was here Intercepted as to his
visit to the White House, and answered as
upon his examination in chief.
Question by Mr.. Stanbery: Did not the
idea Of kicking out first come from you
Witness No, sir; no, sir.
Q. You are sure' A. am, sir.
Q. When General Thomas said he would
kick that fellow out, what did you reply
A. Well, the language was rather severe,
thought, and did not at first reply but
after awhile l said, Delaware will expect
something from you. Laughter
| q. Was there much more conversation
A. Before left General Thomas renewed
the desire Of Delaware. Renewed laugh
| ter.
@. Do you think you were authorized
to speak for Delaware upon that subject 7
A. Well, when people are away from home
they think good deal about it, and like
to tell other people what their people
think.
@. Were you in sympathy with Della
ware upon the subject?
Mr.. Butler objected. This was not the
proper way to ascertain the sympathes of
| Delaware with regard to the War Depart
ment.
Mr.. stanbery thought it would go to
| show what the sympathies Of witness were,
but he would waive that question and ask
another.
@. Did you give General Thomas any
further advice? a. No, sir; did not.
@. After you left General Thomas, to
whom did you communicate the CONVEX.
sation? A. First to my friend, Mr.. Tan
ner. told him that evening as we were
walking along the street. Don't recollect
to whom ! told it next, but l told it to
several other persons.
@. Can't you recollect one to whom you
told it? A, Yes, gentleman from Della
ware.
@. Well, what is his name? A. (After
some hestation,) Well, his name is-Mr.
Smith. [Laughter.l
@. What was the first name of this Mr..
Smith? A. 1t was not John. Renewed
laughter
@. Well, what was it if it was not John
\. l think it was William.
@. Where did You see Mr.. William
Smith? A. In Washington.
Q. Whereabouts /? A. On the street
[Laughter.l
@. Was it near the court house ? A.
did not know there was a courthouse here.
G. Whereabouts was it, then? A. On
| the avenue.
@. The avenue is very long. On what
part of it? A. Near the capitol.
@. What did you tell William Smith ?
A. Just what have told you.
@. What part of Delaware is William
Smith from? A. He lives on the banks of
the Brandywine. Laughter.
Chief Justice Chase at this point sug-
gested that this examination had gone far
enough, and that nothing useful was to be
accomplished by pursuing it.
Mr.. Stanbery concluded by asking wit
ness if he had testified before the Board
Of Managers to which he replied atiirma-
lively.
Mr.. Butler asked witness whether he
had not given the same testimony before
the Managers that he had given here to-
day! Witness replied ailirmatively.
Mr.. Butler followed that with question,
whether after his testimony was given,
| General Thomas was not called in, the tes-
timony read to him, the question asked if
it was not true, and whether General
| Thomas had not asSented!
Mr.. Curtis objected, and denied the right
Of counsel to support the testimony OF
their own witness in that way.
| Mr.. Butler said the witness had been
subjected to q cross examination which
was calculated to dscrcdit him, and it was
therefor proper for him to prove that Gen
eral Thomas agreed to the truth Of wit
ness's statements. lie would, however,
waive the question now, and ask General
Thomas when he was put upon the stand
The court then at 5 10 adjourned until
| tomorrow at II o'clock.