The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-04-01

Reply-,Disesta blishma mt or DasenAsw.
psent s-3Ir. Laing's X esolufs0u.
LONDON, March a, 1858.
The debatcln the House o ( Commons last night on
the Irish Church was the most important enc thas
has taken place duringthe present session OF Parlia-
ment.
Mr. Gladstone, a portion whose remarks were
teegraphed lass night, mad mastery spesch' In
support OF his resolutions ftr the abolition or the
Irish Church Establishment. placing himself on q
line with the most advanced members of the liberal
party on This question. After giving the reasons for
past inaJtiOn, he showed the necessity for
the immediate consfderan on of she sub
ject ana explained the tendency end ehSct
Of the resolutions which he had introduced to meet
the emergency. He dilated on the great eject fer
good which termination OF the ascendanoy of the
Irish Church a State estabiisllm oul5 have in
removing jeaaousies and mia ting secta rian bitter
ness In treating this question he said members
of Parliament should excludes party fee liEys and
act solely forth public good No one oouM deny
that each OF the Church orga nizatons In Iceland,
irrespective Of creed, aimed to do good; Tat the
Church as am establishments of Inc State had ndsera-
bly, failed to do the country any good. Now tn the
penal laws sgainst Catholics no longer were sorce
the number of Protestants in Ireland did not exceed
onehfth OF the populatou,s and it was a rpsst
injustice to compel the wnoie country to support
a church for tlss benefit OF so small NH lo,ity.
Members of the House Of Commons were url ,ea to
disregard their fears and Trejudces, and whit N the
Irish people asked for religious equality graz ut The
demand, placing their reliance the justice OF ne
act. He praised tde Roman Catholic clergy for their
irmness and loyalty IN opposing Fenianism. ] 70.
gard to measures. for the disestablishment q the
Irish Church Mr. Gladstone said he did not inter I'd to-
press the question ~ final decision until the new
Parliament should meet; but Ire should urge
to I'LL vacancies ia the higher grades VI the rsh
Church. In order to leave the clear for fu ture
action. Had he hot believed that the House was
ready to deal carr testify with the question: he ,ud
not have resorte to that weakest Of devices AN
introduction Of. these resoiut.sns would be
followed by active steps for carrying them
generation mig hi see the great reform comliete.
AFTER sharply ritlcsing the proposed resoutoa' 81
whole n h meeting Of ne neSt PETITE
ment, Mr.. Gat Istone closed his speech with an ee-
qsent appeal the House to- v!ndiease its character
now to be dec ided.
Mr. Gladsto ne was loudly cheered as he took his
In his reply Lord Stanley; xhoimmediately followed
Mr.. Gladstone, owned tn at the government fully
SION; but he regretted the attempt which had been
made to p ace the quest ion on false basis; Tho
Or manage nent, as had been charged; they only
wanted tims to consider the subject before acting
n asss. y ,Ss RICH. S s p%snesr 70.
practicable. Disestbl ishment OF the Irish
Church was one tn in and abandonment was
another He compls lin ed that the right honorable
gentleman had left N all in the dark. The House
should wait until the c. ,mmssion on the Irish Church
had made report OF I aelr investigation. Here was
question which hay been postponed for thirty four
Years ana tne rlght pnorable gentleman wished to
nave II settled id day, and asked the
House TO commit Itself by pledges Was it
right for an eXpir ~ Parliament to leave this legacy
OF resolutions to its successor IL was done only To-
raise cry which night be used with effect in the
coming elections.
Lord Stanley the n endeayored to convict Mr.. Glad
stone OF nconsisf.e ncy on this subject by quoting
from the record OF is vote and speeches. The noble
lord concnded ms speech by declaring that the Irish
people cared more for land than the Church uues
ton and before Ia kng his seat he offered the resou
ton OF Wnicn ne gave notice on Friday--viZ.. that
the whole subjec' OF a change In the irish Church
Establishment be left to be dealt with by the next
Parliament.
Mr.. William II. Leatham, member for Wakefield,
and Mr.. James Moncrien member for Edinburg,
spoke IN opposi don to the resolution OF Lord stanley
Mr.. EdwardO 'Neil member for Antrim, supported
the resolution or postponement and was followed
by Mr.. AleXant Ter Cochrane, member for HonitOn,
who also advt )cated postponement, and in the
course OF his remarks said that he believed that
Professionalism was In danger in consequence OF the
attacks whlch had been made upon Old established
church.
Mr. Cranb' Jrne member for Stamford, opposed
both the res buttons OF Mr.. Gladstone and that OF
Lord Stanley
Mr.. Samut ! Laing member for Wick moved to
amend MI iladstone's resolutions follows:--
Rs.eseS hat while The principles q q
practical Diet AHA OF such may be eft to the
Parliament the assembling of which the Ministry should
every mean ITO hasten.
Mr.. La az made an able argument In support Of his
motion.
The Sol icitor General made brief speech, sustain
ing the lotion OF Lord Stanley.
AT tho conclusion Of his remarks the debate was
ADJOURNED.