The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-11-19
HENRY WILSON.

Causes Of the Defcnt Of the Democratic
Party-Gcnernl Grunt md His Future Poll.
~y-A Constitutional Amendment Desirable
20 Secure Universal snnrase-What Presi.
dent johnson EIiaha Have Been IL He Had
Behaved uiwseIf--The Financial Enigma
and she National Bank " Rings"
NATIcK, Mass, Nov. II, 1868.
me leading men OF the coming Congress- those
who are 10 take such an important part In shaping
che deslnses OF The country under the coming adj
nInstration OF General Grant, are already actively
engaged in deylsing and maturing their plans. That
= general ovefhau1ing In all the material depart
meDis OF Tho national machine shop IL desirable
fw, II any, VIII dispute, and 1t Is therefore cred.
liable 10 those in whose wisdom and in
tegrIty she people have connded that they
realize and appreciate the Importance OF the
enormous dusics devoiving upon them. The nnan-
sia policy od iie country the matter OF reconstruc-
ron IN the southern States the various questions
arising from the emancipation o& the lately OPP
pressed and multitude OF other measures OF more
or less importance VIII all require immediate atten
uon ana the people win look confidently and, 1t Ii
soped not IN vain, for general and satisfactory
strengthening out OF the kinks and tangles which
have lately been source OF 80 much annoyance and
grave concern to all classes OF the American CON-
munity "Let US have peace" Is tire declared motto
Oh the leader OF the dominant party and II Grant ana
The Cabinet and Congress which aurround him can
render their wa Lchword living truth the country
WIN indeed have reason to rejoice.
Of all those composing the 1851 or coming Con-
Kress there arr, lew II any, In iact whatever may be
their politics. who Nc more industrious IN adyocat.
lng their par ~ measures than senator WILSON, OF
Massacanses In fset mat ne - a. raaica, In
his opponen Is 10 dU quite the fact OF his energy and
unilring zeal IN bel alf Of every measure which he
takes hold OF. reliably he did more bard work
and more gratito service fer the republican party
during me late nHyass titan any combination Of
half fnxnn nTh "a I.a la t.sr~
was heard all ow n The country, from the dumping
of pilce" on ne coast Of Maine TO the .boundcss
prairies" OF the West, and not until the evening pre-
ceding the day II election did he relax his efforts In
behalf OF red hot rcpublicanisrn. His physical
triumph of the cause which he advocared
Nc has be- spending the time at his
home in tins In view OF the very natural and
general inter est which exists To know the ideas and
predictions OF the leading men OF Congress upon
the remedH , OF the ANTIQUITIES OF the present day,
enc Of the HERALD reporters has obtained those
which viii govern the mind and future actions OF
the dlstng uished Massachusetts Senator. Having
nrst discuss cd few nnimportant local topics the
matter or e recent election was referred to- where
upon the conversation between the Senator and the
HERALD re preventative was something like this
REpoRrs R-What do you think OF the result OF the
late eccto and liz probable influence on the inter-
ests OF the country
senator WILSON, have taken part In eight prcsi
Dental CT ,ctons and my experience convlnces me
Thai thls ~ been the most severely contested OF any
OF them There are a great many persons who think
have heal On General Grant.
many ri ublicans who share that opinion. What
you thin would have been the consequence II the
democra Ia mad taken Chase instead OF SEYMOUR
Senalt r WILSON, don't think lie would nave
been eve cted.
REpol .rRR-why notp
Senaf or Wusos-Wcll, for this very reason:The
Sfrenga OF the democratic party Is In the prcudiccs
and hsrcds OF its largest masses towards the negro
Judge Chasc's nomination. therefore, would have
thrown on tens OF thousands OF democrats from the
support OF the party The democratic leaders, in my
Judgment, did their best to win, but they mlscacli-
lated Pendleton's prcenbeck theories, once strong
IN the West, are strong there no longer. The
incorporation Of these theories into the democratic
platform, It thought nj the time would
give strength to the party but, on the con-
,raIy, proved source Of weakness The demo.
.grees 10 be weak, ana there were some repub-
leans who concurfed with them; but that policy had
restored nearly all the rebel States and accomplished
400 much 10 lie likely 10 he abandoned or forcbly
oserthrown. The democratic candidates not
strong. The violent speeches Of Blair and his In
temperate actions put burdens upon the party which
II was impossible 10 throw or. Seymour's stump
IN the State OF New York. bth weakened him every
where else. The American people, you know, do not
like to candidate for the high ONCE OF Presi-
dent Of the United states swinging around a circle
any more than they like u see an actual President
do 4 No PRESIDENTIAL candidate can take the stump
without losing votes and especially that true OF
loratio Seymour, who has been by the press OF MS
party given qualities winch he does not possess.
Wherever he appeared he left the imp esaon that
was a man OF rar less ability than the people had
given HIM credit for. The same people had listened
10 far ablcr men OF both parties during the cam
papn.
RnponTEa--with seymours lack of ability and
Rlairis unpopular.ty. how do YOU account for the
Lcketrunning ~ wen AZ II didr
senator wILsoS-oh, the democrats resoried 10
the desperate means To carry the election aud
beyond nh question they carried New York ana New
Jersey by fraudulent votes, aud III Louisiana and
Georgia tney uiumphed by intimidation and vo-
lnce ana reduced our maorticS IN other Southern
states oI thousands ~ the same means. said
In the la OF 1851 IN speech on the eve OF The cleo
ton IN MASSACHUSETTS,, and after many states mad
gene AGAINST ua, that General Grant would be
candidate ana tnat NJ would receive the votes OF
thirty VI the thrtyacpcn states, also popular
loriry of half million, and that House OF Repre-
ncniatlvcs with twothltds vote would DE elected to
sustain his administration. The result OF the cleo
non ccnyinccs thai " there had been frauds
violence, and q, Virginia. Mississippi and Texas had
voted, my prediction would nave been fully verified.
RErchrEI;-i see. Mr. Wilson, that the democratic
electors are talking OF casting their vote for General
Grant II this should be done, do you think the
democratic parry would receive any faV0rs rom
senator WILSON, don't think the democratic
electors win any ouch thing, but there lot Of
time honored oilicc seekers IN the party who would
hope 10 get something from such proceeding but
r,,n az seuae don't believe In II. Genera, ,fant
cannot be converted INTO an Andrew Johnson. lie
knows md We NIL know, That n johnson hau been
true 10 the party which elected him me lriais aud
tcencs through when we have passed would never
have come. lie might n he had acted properly, have
been firongln the confidence and affections OF the
American people and might have BEEN II he de-
sired IT, re.elcrted TO The Presidential once.
RrPoRTEK-Dont you think President Johnson
was betrayed by inen Who protested TO be friendly
senator wiIauN--Most certainly. know, or my
own personal knowledge, thal before Mr. lincon's
dead bcoy reached Springfield Andrew Johnson
was made 10 believe by men who thronged about
hun, some Of whom are now active republicans, that
he could he The tounder.cf new and great po;i-
cal party aud that IL would rcelect him President
al lsGS. / further know that Johnson never mean.
Ia aid the deTocrattc party IA II was then and IL
now. lie started out 90 be Inv founder OF IL Or
war democracy. which was 10 draw within lts folds
most OF the msa az tne republican party, together
with the "a servatyc element Of tue de-
mocracy. aud the radicals OF the North AMI
The extreme mer OF the South were 30 be excluded
Tile republican victories In the autumn OF lsCs dis
appointed Johnson, and be postponed active meas
summer OF 1875 and. "a ycn know, the memorable
arm-iu-ann Phiistciphia convention of that
year proved failure. Selfish aud am
bilious nen sougft 10 use President John
son. ne siaa I'd them. brought trials AMI
sorrows upon hts country sDJ ruin upon himself
anu hc vii leave the Presidency loved by none and