The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-06-16


and Means, then subjected to the criticism OF all
parties interested in It's provisions who have come
the country-and after the bill had come before the
House and been disposed OF there Is why the
ing their time and patience III Now one word
which am anxious shall go before the country in
my fourteen years. service in Congress have
never known committee land wish 10 be under
stood as speaking for other gentlemen and not for
santy in season and out OF season, by night and by
day, meeting every day for the past four or five
months with not a half dozen days excepted, az the
Committee Ways and Means, and the bin presented
to this House is the embodiment OF all that labor.
Now while this impeachment trial was going on and
while gentlemen around me, dozens OF them, spent
helr time at home with their families and looking
OF Ways and Means stayed here and worked on. i
say TINS not In an offensive sense. The very gentle
n anH VINO Is made the medium for presenting this
anu moving the resolution to give the bill the goby,
nas oeen at home looking after his own intetests,
ana was not here the other day to the ques-
Indeed how long he has been here since the
W VIl mas as been under the Committee Of the
that for himself | mean nothing offensive
In the allqsion But say The opposition here-a
been having days, weeks perhaps in some instances
months) OF leisure at their homes with their families
and about their private business while we have been
working every day and almost every night. do not
say this in praise OF the work presented to YOU.
saw when we are hair way through the p and
more than half through 1t, IL does not look well to
have such resolution offered, for | now proclaim
that this Is an attempt made to throw back upon
q condition OF things where another week more Of
the time of the committee must be employed in put
ting together all the different parts of the bill in
order to collect the tax even whskey
and tobacco want that particular leu fact
ed with the tax tobacco, and there are pages OF
the bill connected with the tax on distilled spirits,
slsent bill unless section after section IL stricken out
and rearranged. To do that work will require, In my
belief rs long time as 1t would take for this House
LA m nrntf
tee of the Whole on the state OF the Union. give 10
as not only my opinioa, but as the opinion OF the
much time to get up new bill under the Instructions
OF the resolution as it will to go through with the
malnder OF this bill
Mr.. GARFIELD, (rep) OF Ohio, asked Mr.. Schenck
whether in his Judgment If the House were to pass
mately to do what the resolution contemplated, it
could not be done more speedily by taking out OF the
bill the sections referring to the subject OF whiskey
and tobacco as they should be passed by the HOusef
Mr. SCHENCK-I think that what have said leaves
that fairly to be inferred. That certainly is my opin
ion. Isay that we cannot get back such bin as
these gentlemen ask for in less time than would take
to go through with the bill as it now Stands; and
say that If to go to that work do it az
well after the bill has left the House do it
now. It seems, however, that the difficulty Is,
take the responsibility of Cutting down the
bills that may be sent to them, and therefore out OF
respect to the Senate we must accommodate our
views to theirs and take upon ourselves the labor of
presenting half bill instead OF leaving 1t to the
Senate to do so. do not believe 1t will take any
ready has been occupied In this bill 1t inter-
rupted by the DelanO and Morgan case, and on the
various occasions when reports were made from the
Committee Of Managers In reference to the witness
WOoley, and by questions from the Committee on
aPpropra,tons which Is now nov opp opposing u.s. various
that we have not had five full days OF work on this
bill. do not think that fairly counted we have had
four full days. and yet we had gone half through
the bill when / predicted that we could go
through with the bill in three weeks: Gentlemen
said that II that were 30 they were willing to go on
but that they thought 1t would take nearly three
months say now that If we can have work.
ing quorum Of the House to go on with the bill
we can in all human probability dispose OF IL in
week. That Is q declaration which want to make
in the presence OF the country. Again | say If this
bl gets the go-by, and If in consequence or the
action pursued here we are delayed in any way here
after II must be recollected who takes the RESPONSE
bty. 1t Is the democratic party almost TO a man
and about onet third OF the republican party. can
not tell what the vote has been to-day. 1t has not
been so strong in this direction SO far as the re-
publicans concerned, fewer OF them have sus-
tanned the bill. But the vote the other day was
number consisted Of seventy-hve republicans and
seven democrats; against going on with the bill
there thrty-fOur republicans ana twenty-three
democrats. This was more than two to one Of the
republicans voting in favor OF meeting tie demands
responsibility. they were for going on with the
work. But u little more than one-third OF them,
cIared that they did wish the House to go on with
the work. To-day the proportion Is pretty nearly
the same but wish To be understood that 80 far as
the Committee of Ways and Means concerned we
are sustained by the gentleman from Indiana mr.
Niback and by the gentleman from New York mr.
Brooks)-both democrats Iney have sustained
US on this subject with their votes, but
with those exceptions the undivided democratic
party almost goes with portion OF the republican
party, and there Ia no escaping the fact that while
majority of those who feel the responsibility Mere
anxious and willing TO 60 on .less than majority of
them are united with the democrats In trying to pre-
vent the House going on with the bill
Mir. MAYNARD next took the lOOr and said-Mr.
Speaker, did not desire TO obtain the nOor, ana
obtain 1t now simply to say that in the statement OF
the facts relating 10 the action OF the committee
hnva laAn ntaIh Inv In .laatr
committee he has not done more than justice
to the committee; but he has 50 far
he himself Is concerned, failed by far
to do justice to his own labors. instead Of five
months, think the calendar VIII show that IL is
have never seen equalled In my experience this bill
has been discussed. It's provisions examined one by
one and the bill presented to the lious; "a tine re-
suit OF the labor Of the committee. fully concur in
what the chairman has stated that 10 take out OF
this bill the two OF tobacco and distilled spir-
its and TO Introduce them with those PROVISIONS OF
the Jaw which relate to collecting duties upon them,
and to adapt them to the present law, will he like
puttng cloth INTO an old garment. IL will only
operate to make the result worse. 10 Will require
an Immense amount OF labor, and that labor win not
accomplish what Is hoped and expected, and which
believe can be accomp ished by the present bill.
Mr., NiBLACK dem OF Ind. tanother member OF
Speaker, have been waiting all the while IN favor
OF going with this bill since the motion 10 post
pone has been submitted. have done So in the 1rst
place because am member Of the Committee OF
Ways and Means who reported the bill, and because
believe II Il proper in me to sustain the committee
III matters Oh ttls nave uOne 80 LOT
the additional that think there IL much egis
ation needed on the subject Of intern,. revenue
taxes, some of which may DO at least accomplished
by passing this bill. But ! am more particularly
anxious that this proposition to postpone IL now
shall not succeed for the reason that 4 think it
viii result in a positive loss Of time 10 the
House and to Congress- as has been well said
By the chairman. We cannot mature q new bill
under perhaps week to meet the requirements Of
the resolution now pending. II we should 90 on
with the consideration OF the present bill we think
that within that time should have disposed OF IL
House,
question ABOUT the time that II will take complete
this bill, a. instructed by the resolution. ~ may
he that the senate, when this bill shall reach IT, If 10
ever shall, may decide to take out much OF u as
relates to wnlskey and tobacco. aud may send IL
back To ny In that amended form II So the respon-
sibty will he ON the Senate, and perhaps II VIII be
a matter of economy In time to do so; but Tor the
House to adopt that course and TO attempt now 10
separate the sections and only to pass portion OF
the bill would think, result in an absolute loss OF