The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-10-15

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WILLIAM l. Andrews, ves.rymen.
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NEW YORK, October, less.
Accompanying this petition was printed vol
ume Of $40 pages containing the report Of the trial
OF Rev. DR.. Tying Jr all OF which was referred to
the Committee on Canons.
THE OLD TREASURER REFLECTED.
Mr.. Herman Cope, Of Philadelphia, for many years
Treasurer Of the Convention was reelected to the
same office by reclamation.
CLERICAL sUBoRDINAToN.
Rev. Samuel Benedict, OF Georgia. offered reso-
luton on the subject Of clerical subordlnaton to
comes right down from Christ to the Apostles and
the rule OF which in the Church is absolute. He ex-
planned his meaning to be that the Church ID getting
too demOcratic its organization ls often compared
with the political institutions OF States. which
he deemed wrong as In the State all authority
springs up from the people while In the Church all
to rttuasm and maintained that no rigid and iron
uniformity was necessary, but rather harmony was
needed. The resolution offered was as fOlOws:-
Resolved, That the Committee Canons be requested to
the o. an to the
p
much Of them as they may deem sufficiently
deem besths Church in her legislation recognizes
The n pS lies
Apostles q Lord and perpstuses their .ahory
authority matters eccesastical IL absolute save where
Limited e the book or Or ~ @ Of
the duty Of the Inferior 70 defer 70 AP9s
The Rev. Christopher p gladden., Of South Caro-
lima did not want to have such resolution referred
to the Committee Canons but In the arst place to
the Committee on the Prayer Book After some
to the Rev DIR
see any useful purpose 70 be gained by the resolu
ton, for the reference TO ecclesiastical authority sug
vows. The passage OF the resolution could only
operate as Standardization by the Convention to
had already vowed to obey. The motion to Law on
the table was carried.
RITUALIsM AGAIN.
Samuel Clements, OF Ohio, presented another me-
mortal on ritualism identical In phraseology with
those presented some days ago by Judge Conyng-
mittee on Canons, when the President announced
the order OF the day:-Report on change OF canon
XII, title l. Rev. Dr. Adams moved TO postpone the
order and continue the debate OF last evening. DR..
Rylance called attention to the fact that no seats
were prepared for the Bishops, but no action was
The Committee on New Dioceses reported reso-
luton concurring. with the House OF Bishops con.
sentng to the division OF the diocese OF Western
New York, which, after pretty sharp debate on the
"reluctancen existing somewhere to present the
documents in the case TO the House and to force
Of the House, and some objection to the phraseology
OF the resolution and preamble, was referred back
TO the Committee on New Dioceses, with instructions
to report fully this morning.
COUNCIL AND CONVENTION"
Rev. DR.. Goodwin took the floor on the motion OF
and Entered into n historical ESSAY how the terms
ssConventonu and "General Convention" came to
be adopted He referred TO the endorsement OF the
Book or Common Prayer by the bishops, clergy and
laity OF the Protestant Episcopal Church In the
United States Of America In General Convention as
to the fact that since the Councis' at Jerusalem,
which were composed OF Apostles, elders and breh-
rem the laty were not called In TO participate in the
deliberations OF ''Councils,u which were composed
only OF bishops. Our Church intended deliberately
to renroduce the lalty as component part OF &c
government OF the Church. and hence took the r-ine
OF Convention To change this now word be
tantanount to declaring that the org.si raaus
OF tNe hnrch, now existing seventyccessu, yeai
was ire arf Organization wa ~ $780, ~
but Is to be American a1mc onu,c h " ~, ,,e
ta se rs aS Sesp him The
doctor then made mg.J quotations rom the prayer
p poox 20 sne 10 be arrived an lie wanted 70
run no rae. With Rome on that course adopt all she
ea % ner 1sI o Se naSe
aIsars, ape all she has. But no; the speaker had
notion TO run such race with Romaniem for church.
ship. He then referred to the legal difficulties In the
case, exhorted The house 10 bow to the rule pricj-
pits obstdt and continued thus till the hour for re-
cess concluding with feryent appeal and prayer to
the house.
FOREIGN CLRRGYMEN.
In the course OF the proceedings In the morning
the enect that they had passed an amendment TO the
second section Of ten. title one, changing the
word "threer TO "one.n The amendment Will be
better understood after reading the canon as It
stands, as follows-
And such foreign clergyman be deacon he shall reside
the requisite Testimonials Of character before he be ordained
a priest.
Afternoon Session.
COUNCIL OR CONVENTION
Rev. Dr. Haight moved TO take up TO the order OF
the day. Governor stevenson and others objected,
as by vote OF the house the report OF tue Commit
to resume the debate on '.councn ana aconyen.
tion.n Mr.. Samuel b. Rugpes took the door, ana
spoke specially TO the question OF adding the word
or whether IL n necessary, whether IL would exalt
the dignity OF the Church or Its efficiency In pr0mul-
eating the word OF God. The Church was founded
not for these United States alone, but for the
whole world, by the saviour-one universal, one
Catholic Church, in fact one Holy Church
universal, and II encirclcs the globe-and the
the faith in is purity hc speaker referred TO the
history Of the gradual development OF the Church
from small territory In Asia Minor till II has cir
bracing Church. what is It that is proposed, We
Americans inhabit a respectable part Of the globe,
have all the advantages TO form the central site OF
Being engaged in their canonical work they deserve
no sarcasm or irony. The subject should be re-
moved from all questions OF nationality or politics.
We have nothing 70 40 with the government OF tse
and has no connection with the Church. The form
of political government In the country has nothing
e DO with the Church. There = much dinerence
government In the North II 70 held nation In the
South league or coufederacy But In the Church all
meet on common ground. But when cur present
political entity created which has enough Of the
functions and attributes Of nationality 70 preserve
m own thss ap a.. =:
territorial area when the time comes TO form the