Daily Ohio statesman. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1855-1870, 1868-04-18
IMPEACHMENT.
WASHINGTON, April IL, 1858

ment, snail meet at III O'CLOCK A. M, 10
which
MIR. SUMMER offered an amendment, for
the session to be from 10 O'Clock to o'clock
daily.
The amendment was reiected-16 against
| Mr.. Conness' motion was adopted-29 to
| a.
On motion of Mr.. FERRY, the Senate
orders the omission from the records of
| the tabular statements appearing in the
Globe as part of Buffers speech yester-
day. the same not having been read or put
in evidence. q =
w. w. Armstrong. of the Cleveland
and testified that the President spoke there
only on solicitation. Interruptions by the
crowd was kept up most of the time and
responded to by the President
Barton Able, of st. Louis. was examined.
| Was one of the committee appointed by a
mercantile association to receive the Pres
ident in August, 1866, and went to Alton to
meet him. At the request of citizens the
President reluctantly consented to make
speech from the balcony of tho Southern
Hotel in st. Louis. He told the committee
he would make only short speech.
Cross-eXamined-The President made a
speech to the committee at the landing,
where he was listened to respectfully and
was then escorted to the Lindel Hotel;
went to the Southern Hotel about O'Clock
that night to attend banquet given him;
witness remained inside while the Presi-
dent was speaking from the balcony, and
did not see any person try to draw him on
so as to get him to desist from speaking.
Geo. Knapp, proprietor of the St. Louis
Republican, was the next witness. He tes-
titled that he and Abel advised the Presi-
dent to respond to the calls of the crowd
and go out to speak to them. The Presi-
dent consented with reluctance. The crowd
was at the time very disordery.
| Cross-eXamined- Do not know whether
the balcony was crowded; listened to a
portion of the speech; did not hear any
thing about Judas or John Bull. The ban
quet was delayed until the President had
finished his speech. The Republican pub
4 lished the speech on Sunday and Monday
] gave directions to correct the speech for
/ second publication; does not recollect
whether he had ever complained that his
directions were not carried out.
Henry Seider. shorthand writer for the
st. Louis Republican, was next called. He
reported the Presidents speech and cor
rected the report published Sunday for the
publication of Monday made only such
| corrections as were called for by his notes
compared the report of the speech publish
ed in the Democrat with his own, publish
| ed in the Republican; made the comparison
April 11th, and wrote one accurate men,
oranda of about sixty differences.
Mr.. BUTLER objected that the compar
ison was made between the printed news
papers, which are not certified to have been
genuine.
Mr.. CURTIS called attention to the fact
that the managers had already put in evil
dence o copy of the Democrat OF that date,
and
| Mr.. BUTLER withdrew his objection.
The memoranda were put in evidence.
Cross-examined-Wit Witness had been par
TALLY deaf for some time, owing to sick
ness; did not become so until several
months after he reported the Presidents
speech; compared reports of the portion
relating to New Orleans recently with Mr..
Walbridge; gave examples OF differences
| to show the latter had left out qualifying
words to the prejudice of the President.
i Mr.. BUTLER read that portion of his
| speech, requiring the witness to correct
errors as he went along, which he did. eX
citing great laughter by the sharpness of
his replies to Buffers questions.
Mr.. BUTLER asked if there we're any
| changes more important than the correc-
tions of grammar.
Witness replied there were.
| Mr.. CURTIS then put in evidence the
commission issued by President Adams ap-
pointing Washington Lieutenant General;
also document showing the particulars of
all removals of officers under the Depart
ment of the Interior. E.
The Assistant Secretary of State was
j then called to testify for the defense. The
4 appointment of Consuls and Vice Consuls
are under his charge. When vacancy
occurs or the Consul is not able to make a
temporary appointment, the Minister, or in
4 his absence, the Naval Commander, nomin-
ates Vice Consul. This action is referred
for approval to the Department. The ap-
pointments are made ad interim, and are
necessary for the interests of the service.
The Department sometimes makes NOM
ination without recommendation of Consul,
Minister or Commander.
/ Cross-examined-The appointments
are made in conformity with statute law.
Mr.. CURTIS then put in evidence list
of consuls appointed during sessions of the
Senate.
Gideon Welles, Secretary of the Navy,
sworn-Was appointed Secretary March,
1861. by Mr.. Lincoln. On the evening of
the 2lst of February last, his attention was
called to changes in the disposition of
troops in this department. His son inform
ed him that evening that call had been
made for all officers belonging to certain
company to repair at once to Gen. En- )ry'
headquarters sent his son next day TO tell
the President, but he returned without
seeing him, and witness went himself
about noon, to talk with the President on
the subject, and told him what he had
heard.
O1estion-What passed between you and
the President after you made that commu-
nication in relation to it?
Objection made, but overruled by the
Chief Justice.
Witness resumed-The President said be
did not know what General Emory meant
and would send for him to inquire at close
of Cabinet meeting. About two O'Clock
the same day, had an interview with the
President in relation to the removal of Mr.
Stanton.
Mr.. .EVARTS asked what passed between
them.
Mr.. BUTLER objected, but before the
question was put in writing a recess for
fifteen minutes was taken.
1 On reassembling. at 245,
\ Mr.. EVARTS asked few preliminary
questions, eliciting the fact that the COM
versation between Secretary Welles anG
the President took place in the presence OF
other members OF the Cabinet, and ther
said the counsel proposed to prove that on
this occasion the President told his Cabi'
net. before the meeting broke up, that he
had removed Secretary Stanton, and in an
swer to Secretary Welles said Gen. Thomas
was in possession OF the once; shat Mr
Stanton had acquiesced, only requiring
time to remove his papers. -
Mr.. BUTLER argued against admitting
the testimony and reiterated his views re-
garding the duties of members of the Cab
finet They could only give opinions in
writing about matters connected with theiI
own departments. He also said the evidence
of the witness showed that the President
had acted in this instance without consul
ton with his Cabinet, and held that the
point at issue was covered by the ruling in
regard to Mr.. Perrin yesterday.
Mr. EVARTS denied that the testimony
of the witness warranted the statement Of
Mr.. Butler. Witness had only said he was
then informed of the actual commission o
the act, but did not say he and other mem
bers of the Cabinet did not know it wa:
contemplated. He also denied any analogy
with the case of Perrin. The communica.