The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1868-11-19

1lr. OOIDlu-lts JOui ao0ih cSSh SoeA@SAJ
| under your control?
Answer-IU has; when l was away, my Or
| ders were to allow no one N there.
Ouestion-have yoI any means OF knowing
whether that order has been obeyed?
A. Nothing more than my confidence in the
party who had charge OF the office:
@. Have any persons examined inc boxes IN
YOUR presence in your Office
A. They have not.
O. I suppose persons have frequently come
| into your room. been near the boxes and look
ed at them. Have they ever been opaned?
A. Not to my knowledge.
o. In whose charge is your Office during your
| absence?
A. In the charge Of Roberts.
@ Have Won any means OF knowing wneth 7r
these boxes have not been tampered with by
Roberts, except the general confidence that he
would not do so2
A. have not.
O. Can YOUR Honor inform us what returns
came in sealed envelopes 10 you?
The Mayor repeated the list which we have
given IN the preceding part OF QUE report.
There wns one blank sealed, but to which re-
turn it belonged he was unable to say. There
wac one in all envelope not sealed. That was
f:om Ward 6.
o. Will you inform us what precincts made
returns in no envelopes at at all
A. Ward 8, Third Precinct; Ward 1, and
one not designated. -,
o. Was the return from Ward 8, Second
Precinct. brought to you and sealed up III your
/ presence by the managers ut your suggestion
A. did suggest to the managers that it
ought to BE- done. got an e envelope, put It IN,
done wrong, I afterwards tore open the en-
velope and took out the return.
g. Were the managers present when you did
that?
A. I think they we're.
Alderman Whildcn moved that the board
now proceed to examine witnesses III regard to
man Of the Managers OF Ward No. z, be called.
The motion was agreed to.
| On motion OF Alderman Whilden, the Mayor
was requested TO examine on the part OF the
board, and that the cross-examinatiou be con-
ductcd by The counsel on both sides.
| DR.. Gr1mke. upon being sworn by the Mayor,
| said, in response to questions propounded by
the Mayor: was chairman OF the Managers Of
Ward No. 7; I counted the votes deposited at
that precinct in the City Engineers Office;
sec box in the pile there just like it, but can
not swear to its identity; lett the box in the
Engineers Office; do not know what became OF
tho ballots; was not instructed that it was
necessary to preserve the ballots; dld not
| preserve them in the election for President and
Vice-President; there were no ballots carried
away in the box to my personal knowledge; l
| left the ballots and box there on the night OF
| the eleventh, and never went there until the
next day; believe the box was handed to Rob-
erts with lock, but not sealed; did not lock
1t; can't identify the box by any particular
mark.
Cross-examined by counsel for professionals :
| know that the ballots were not preserved, I,
| but do not know whether the one contained
| ballots when 1t was taken possession or by the
Mayor; II mpton and Roberts can testify to
| that.
Cross-examined by claimants COUNSEL AZ
ter closing the poll on the night Of the cleo
ton, the box was brought down and placed in
the Mayors Office, where left 1t, scaled up; l
saw no guard; I next heard Of the box in The
Guardhouse. where it was taken, learn, by
Samuel D. Hear; it was brought to the En-
giaeer's Office, where we opened the box.
and counted the ballots, made up and signed
tho return, and the ballots were then returned
to and lefs in the box; we did not take care
OF them; made such return as thought
necessary, and gave it to Roberts in tho pass
age-way to place upon the Mayors table; can
| identify the returns this is the one, and 1t has
my signature attached; tho return is
headed, Official return OF the County
of Charleston, Ward 7 Precinct = can
swear that to the best OF my knowledge TINS is
the truo return of votes in my precinct; do
not know whether Roberts placed the return
on the Mayors table; saw him with . box in his
| hand: did not consider myself undcr oblga-
tons to preserve tho blllots. and did not think
it necessary; I have real the law regulating
Municipal elections, as published IN the news
papers, but did not remem1er such provision
in it; did net advise my associates that there
was 10 use TO preserve the ballots; but they
did advise mo to that effect OIL the previous
election. Tat the request OF counsel the witness
pointed out all empty box, which he Thought
was the ballot box OF his precinct, but said nc
could not swear to it,. The box was returned
| to me in the Same condition in which 1t was
when deposited on the night OF the election.
IL reply by protestanGs counsel: portion o.
the paper Left sticking 10 the top OF the box
makes me believe it is tine box used at my pre-
cinct; I was appointed chairman by my
assoc. .ates previous 10 tho Presidential cleo
lion: l never did meet tho managers OF tho
other precincts OF the city, nor did meet then
AZ ten O'Clock on the morning after the cleo
ton. This latter clause was obJected to bl
counsel for claimants, on the ground OF its be
ing incompetent for the examination III r-pl,
10 Introduce new testimony. and so ruled.
After We had counted tho votes they passct
into The hands of Il third party, not manager
of our precinct; some tinl9 after the coantin1
one OF tho managers suggested thaG tneI'
next day met that manager and he remarked
that the ballots were very good for lighting
lamps: he had his pockets filled with them; w
IT. IT, hampton was the namo OF that manager
tho Mavor asked ME where were my ballots tilt
nrxt morning and SAID they Should be pre-
served: I then commecced hunting for them
that was between len and eleven o'clock ON th'
day after tho counting, and it vas the first III
timation that l received that the preservation
of the ballots was necessary; having gone t
the Enoinccrs room to look for them | for NJ
tbo cover of the box open a. .fno had left it tht
day previous, and no ballots i'll it; SO lar rs
Know none of the ballots OF our precinct were
pr served at all.
john A. Winthrop, being sworn, was ex-
ahmed by the pro.vstants as to the identity o
tho hoy in question: Witness was manager
of Ward No. 8, first precinct; he counted at th'
Worret Hail. witness identified the box as al
empty box which he had lett IN the Mayor
office; he knew it to be q box wnlch oeon@eo
10 the City Council, and had been In the posses
sion of DR.. Keckey for years; he brought II
down to the Mayors office at the requess
DR.. Kec'slcy; he felt sure that the Dox Defort
him was be box which he brought from tht
Market Hall.
". E. Mikell was the next witness called
who. upon being duly sworn, answered to th1
interroeatories propounded him as follows T.:
am one OF the managers OF Ward NO. l; TO my
KNOWLEDGE there was no one OF us appointed tt
net as chairman; 1 do not know who acted Of
chairman; never heard the subject mentioned
7 did suggest to Joseph Quash, several days
before tie registration for the Presidential
election. the necessity OF choosing chairman
and proposed him (Quash) as chairman; nj
declined' and suggested myself, and that wa:
ihe&snd of the matter; in our signatures
aomctimes 81 ned first, sometimes the others