The New York herald., 1868-04-04

which / have noted one because it was the only
one that Mr. Johnson paid any any sII attention 10 to- to-
President said, "Hang Jen Davis hang JEFF Davis
.Why don't your" There were then some applause
and and he sSS Mny don't
courts, have you not got the Attorney Generas who
at the triaIs" There were then some Interrupt
tions and applause, and he said, ~ am not the
G am nss the but s
which IS trying to break up the government" At
that point there were Interruptions and confusion,
President which l did not hear, but think not.
prejudices pass"
Mr.. BUTLER-Go to the conclusion where you re-
ported that accurately. A. Commencing a little be-
fore where the specification commences he SAYS
you, with ali the pains pains that Congress has taken
to calumniate and malign me, what has Con-
sn T. HAS ,ns sss R anything to rssrs
has 1t not done everything to prevent 1T And
because ! stand now as l did when the
as traitor. Ny countrymen, here tonight, wn o
has suffered more than l Who has ran greater
risks than II Who borne more thanIf But Con-
has undertaken to poison the minds Of the American
people and create q feeling against me-" So far
sentence here in this fashion. n Of the
manner in which l have distributed the public
patronage" Those were not Mr.. JOhns0n's words,
which he gave just at that point for the maligning
Mr. E EyhETs ito Mr. Ruter)-Do you propose to put
Mr.. BUrLER-we do. I observe in the answer of
the President that objection is made that we did
not put In all he said, and mean to give all.
Mr.. EvARTs cross-examined the witness as fol-
O. What is the date of that newspaper you have?
A. September 4, 1865.
O. Did you make a stenographic report Of the
whole OF the Presidents speech9 A. did, with one
exception.
O. What exception was thats A. 1t was part Of
the speech in which he spoke about the Freedmen's
Bureau. 1t was in the latter part OF the speech
somewhat into the details OF figures which omitted
Q. Did you write down your notes in full A. No,
transcript of them3 A. Only this and newspaper.
O. Did you prepare for the newspapers the report
q. And you prepared 1t on the plan OF some part
rerodtirn and some part condensed2 A. Yes sir.
@ What was your rule of condensation and the
motiyeY A. had no definite rule; but can give
the reason why left out part Of what was said
about the Freedmen's Bureau.
Mr. EyAETs-That is not condensed at all9 A:
Yes, sir; part OF 1t was not taken and what | did
take Of 1t did somewhat condense.
O. What was your-rule In relation to what you put
oe''6dttn into the report and what you condensedY
How did you determine what part you would give
one way and what part another2 A. Perhaps was
influenced somewhat by what considered would
be little more spicy or entertaining TO the public.
O. In which INTEREST," ip the interest of the Presi
dent or his opponentss A. do not know that.
q. On which side were your A. was opposed to
the President
Q. But you do not know where you thought the in(
terest was when you SELECTED the spicy partS A.
considerable excitement and interest in the crew.
to take down carefully what the President said
z. The part In wnicn the crowd was most in
terested you took down carefully. A. Yes.
Q. And the part In which the crowd seemed to
have the most interest was the part in which they
made the most outcry2 A. Yes, SIR.
In Q a nUl o.
preston IN that part Of your report given subsan
tally which Was used by the President, that they
think " is not the case in those particular parts
which condensed; did so by the use in some parts
Of my own words.
Q. was not your rule OF condensation partly when
you got tired OF writing outr a. No, sir; as 1t was
getting between three and four O'Clock in the morn
ing, was directed to cut down, and towards the
last did SO.
O. More towards the last than in the early part OF
the speech, so as TO be ready to go TO pressY A.
Mr. EvARrs-we object to this report as no report
Of the Presidents speech.
his initials.
Mr.. BurLEE--what were the politics of the Cleve.
land Herald at that timer a. Ii was called Johnson
republican; some called 1t Post Once republican, the
editor OF the Herald had the Post ONCE at the time.
Mr.. BUTLER said he proposed to otier the Leaders,
report OF Mr. Johnson's speech as sworn to by Mr..
Henderson.
MI. EvARrs--That We object 10. The grounds OF
the objection are made manifest doubtless to the
observation of the Chief Justice and of the senator's
and are greatly enhanced when we fnd that the
Managers are in possession, of the original sd
speech and OF his transcript made thereon
ana sworn TO by him. We submit that the substtu
ton for that evidence OF the whole speech thus au
ihenicited the statemcnt OF Mr.. Henderson, as tes
tined ~ by him, Is pgalnst the first principles OF JUS
lice ~ OF evidence He has not testified now much
Of the report is his and how much OF it Is Johnson's
BESIDES IL IS for the great part condensed statement
directed by circumstances. The same objection may
DC made to this second HERALD report.
question: But ii we wsre trying any other case for
substantive words would not this be sufficient prooi
do not propose 10 withdraw the other report OF Mr.
McEwen. propose TO put IL in subject 10 be read
and commented upon by tile gentlemen on
report in also, that we can have all the reports
The Post Office report the republican report and the
report. MY natural leaning would lead
me 10 tils particular report az the one on which
mean t. rely, because IL Is sworn by the party as
having been written down bs himself published by
1T This objection.
Mr. EvARrs-Nothlng can better manifest the
soundness oi the objection than the statement OF the
Ai'aEeis. lie selected 10y preference a report made
by and through the agency OF political hostility and
on plan OF condensation method OF condensng
another mans notes instead OF u sworn report 5y Il
who took every word who brings his
original notes and transcript OF them and swears
70 tSo 'e,r s, accuracy and here deliberately IN
was said then, automatically taken, and authcnti-
cal'y proved aud brought into court TO nc vcrigca
tne honorable Manager proposes 10 present as n |
speech notes made and published on the motive nnd
Wi ihe feelings, and under the influence, and the
hethod which has been stated. We object 10 IL US
evidence OF the words spoken.
Mr. BCTLER--if M. President and Senator's, have |
not lived TOO long TO he astonisIed at nythng |
should be surprised at the tone IN which this |
Is PuL DO I Keep back from |
Llese gentlemen nnybody's repoity 80 I |
nov give them All the report--eyerything ] |
can lay my hands oni Am obliged TO 20 into the |
enemy campg Shalt not use the reports OF my |
friends u ana not those Of my enemies, When l give
them the reports of my enemies to correct those OF
my frchdsr Is all virtue and prosperity confined to
democratic lep0rtsf Can they never DC wronrY Al |
one time think President johnson if recolect |
hrivht would not have liked me very well 10 have
change took place exactly do not know; tberelore
nave this report. Whyf Because IL Is the |
unest ana oonpietc.t report The reason why did |
not rely upon Mr.. McEwens report l. that he testi-
@ @neu on the stand that he got tired aud went away
lnd did not report tho wnole speech. This that |
,Der IL the report uf the whole speech and tho onlv
Due that Is Mr. stark swears that he len ont a poi-
iion oil the speech, and Mr.. McEwcn swcars he lef,
Dut portion oi it. could not, therefore put these
n. II Ola might be met with the ohjectun tnat