The New York herald., 1868-05-08

Mr.. MYERS expressed the hope that Mr. Pike would
allow him him C3,n moment !, to vIy reply to his remarks
Mr. MyEesmTnsn the gentleman Is afraid to yield;
| only heard IN his immediate vicinity
Mr. SooEIELD laughinIgly I called et him A. to order
coward, and have right TO retort.
| Mr. MYERS inquired what the remark was.
The SPEAKER replied that he had not heard it.
Some member suggested N fun that the words be
Mr. PIKE remarked that Mr.. Myers ought not to
say he was afraid to meet him In debate. He then
went on to say that the decay Of American shipping
was caused by the tarn 1t costs. said he two dollars
but one dollar in English ports. 1t costs 100000 to
set thousand-ton ship anoat in New York, and but
S5o0oO TO set her ahoat In Liverpool. There is the
| reason.
Mr. MILLER, (rep.) OF Pa, inquired whether Mr..
Pike was in favor OF free trade in building vesselsI
We must have the articles that go into ships free OF
duty or We cannot build ships II it be an object to
builders to have their materials free.
Mr.. ELDRIDGE (dem) of Wis.,, remarked that he
understood the gentleman from Maine to be talking
very much like a western man.
Mr.. PIKE declined to yield for any comments on
Mr.. ELDRrpoE said he understood the gentleman
to be expressing himself in favor OF free trade; but
he wished to inquire whether, If free trade were
ships 1t also good for the aboring masses of the
West in regard to the articles on which they lived
and with which they were clothedS Why not adopt
Mr.. PIKE declined to go into general tariff discus:
out was not in purchasing vessels. No country could
exist in that way.
S Whether
the Hanseatic League, and to England in her deca-
dence, which had risen to commercial prosperity,
and which depended on trade rather than on the
development of land and material resources, had
marched to decline from the day Of the establishment
| OF commercial ascendancyP
| Mr. PIKE replied-Natlons rise and fall. There are
various reasons for their fate. commend the gen.
| tleman to that learned historian (Gibbon) who has
set forth at very great length the for the de-
cline and fall OF the Roman Empire. QLaughter.) My
| comment was this:-That in the meridian Of our
| power we were yielding the control of the sea-
Mr. MYERS, referring to the remarks Of Mr.. Pike in
reference to ruinous taxation from rich manufac.ur
ers, declared that he in favor Of imposing taxes
| where taxes should be imposed, and OF removing
them where they should be removed. Since the five
per cent tax on manufactures had been taken of
one manufacturing firm In Philadelphia had tn-
creased its working by two hundred persons When
was afraid of discussion.
Mr.. PIKE remarked that in a hasy moment he had
let fall a word which he wished 70 withdraw: He
hoped the reporters had not heard it, for he had the
most kindly relation with the gentleman from Penn
The SPEAKER said he had not heard the remark al
luded TO, and he did not yet know what it was.
Mr.. PIKE said he was very glad 1t had not been
heard because then he would not have apologize.
Mr.. KELLEY expressed Tho hope that Congress
would not adjourn till it had repealed the tonnage
tax and adopted some of the wise provisions given
to English law by Sir George Downing, Harvard
manufactures and commerce in q we'll lI-governed ma
ton. The state which, as England was now doing,
sacrlaced ner mines ana ner manuiactures to her
nation lives by the products Of its land and the labor
Of its people, and not by trade alone.
Mr.. PILE (rep.) OF Mo-, remarked that he did not
understand the gentleman from Maine (Mr. Pike 10
pc IN tay2r Of free trade, but only that he had
very high, prohibitory tariff, which was generally
entertained by New England some years ago. In
SSfGgSss sf gaSse R Re ia IA a 5 ws sD g Ds p $s5a S s
endorsing the idea advanced by Mr. Eldridge that
tho West Is in favor OF free trade. AS far he
dersJood the West was in favor of reasonable pro-
lection to the manufacturing interests-a revenue
tariff, not high prohibitory tariiY.
Mr.. HARDING, TepJ of H.. desired TO make re-
mark, bui the previous question was insisted On.
The question was taken on the amendment offered
by Mr Spaldng, and 1t was agreed to.
The joint resolution thus modified was then
passed-yeas 92 nays 80.
THE neutrality-suspicious. INVESTIGATING CON.
MIIsrEE.
Mr.. GRIswOLD asked and was excused from service
Oh the select committee on the WashbarneDonne.iy
investigation.
subsequently the SPEAKER announced that he had
appointed Messrs. Jenckes and Pomeroy on that com
mittee in place of Messrs banks and Grswold.
PROPOSITION TO ExPUNGE THE IMPEACHMENT REsO-
LUTON FROM THE JOURNAL OF THE HOUSE.
Mr. ROBINSON, (den.) Of N: y, sent up resolution
to be read.
The SPEAKER said that unless it was presented as
question Of privilege resolution was in order.
Mr: ROBINSON said he presented it as question OF
privilege connected with the Impeachment.
The resolution was thereupon read, as folOws:-
Resolved Tha. the resoutiOn adopted by this House the
That Johnson PTeaast Of The United
@ ,s of high crimes II
from the journal Of the House. because the the
and was adopted at o ny ana andei cs 81 sx
stances to entangcr the political rights and 70 in
United that the Secretary Fa'pSS Of the House,
fs ri S a s GGs no Ss ss hoa
and an, the Of the House draw black lines around
sropg STR the Gowng words I by order Of
thousand eight hundred and sixty"
OF Spy o 1if % win %
be engrossd and framed and copy thereof presented 70
the United States. Haugher.)
The SPEAKER said the resolution in the opinion OF
the chair is not question OF privilege. liz the first
place the resolution directs the Secretary of the
Mr. MULLINS, rep) of Tenn, interposlng-Mr.
Speaker -
Tine sPEAKER-The gentleman from Tennessee
will suspend. QLaugbter.)
Mr.. MuLLINs-The point OF order is what | was
The SpEAKER-The Chair Is about to decide the
question Of order. In the first place, the resolution
directs the secretary OF the House to perform GER
tain act while there IL no such oiicer But even II
it were correctly worded, 1t is not question OF
privilege. The Journal OF each day is read ana
approved. This resolution proposes to amend the
journal. That Is not @ privileged question. The
privilege to amend the journal ceased with the ex-
piraton Of the day when the journal was made up.
Mr.. ROBINsON-Al0w Inc 10 suggest that 1 viii
modify the resolution by making 1t read 'Clerk Of
tie House."
lHe ofLAhBh-lHe tUdlT Tulcs IL OUT as " question
OF privilege. 1t is resolution which the House may
adopt II II sees ut to do so, but II is not question
Of privilege excluding other business
Mr. R0BINsoN-I VIII bring IL up again. and IL will
be adopted either by this HQgss Or by the next
House: IT is mere matter OF tilIie X > - !
The SPEAKER-It is not debatable. Ii is not before
the House. - 80. .1C.-g ~
80" RESTORATION oF ARKANSAS.
Mr.. STEVENS, (rep.) OF Pa, from the Committee on
Reconstruction, reported bill for the admission of
the state OF Arkansas. ordered 70 be printed and |
recommtted.
MAIL STEAMSHIP LINE BETWEEN PHILADELPHIA AND |
EURCPE
Mr. ONEILI, trep.) OF Pa, introduced bill to pro-
vide for an American line OF mail and passenger
steamships between Philadelphia aud one more |
European ports. Referred TO Post ONCE Committee.
PREVENTION OF SALE OF PUBLIC LANDS
The House then proceeded to the consideration OF |
the bill 10 prevent the further sale Of the lands OF
the United states except as provided for IN the Pre-
emption and Homestead laws and the laws for dis /
posing OF town sites and mineral lands.
Mr. briggs, lrep.l Of Mich, addressed the House |