The Portland daily press., 1868-03-13
E q r. o p e
The Ayo6am0 claims.
Lord stanley's speech in the House
of Commons.

brought this subject forward and who has deal
with 1t In SO cleor and condensed a manner tC
achhoWle9ge he has said nothing which is
calculated to increase any feeling of interna.
uonal irritation that may still remain or to ag-
graVdte complications which have unfortu-
nateiy arisen. / cannot at all events help ex-
pressing my cordial concurrence IN the tribute
Which he has paid TO the high character and
accomplishments of the IT. $. Minister whose
services unfortunately we are about to lose.
TCheers1 Few men could have had more
difficult part to perform, and fewer still could
have DISPLAYED IN all that has been done sound
err Judgment or torbearance. [Cheers
We have vast commercial relations with the
. United States, long line of continuous from
tier; we meet and cross one another in every
part OF the GLOBE. We Rave on both sides an
enormous load OF debt which neither ca ! wish
to increase. Hear. hear and laughter.l We
can 40 each, other incalculable harm, and be
lleve 1t is equally the wish as well as the inter-
eSt OF both nations to remain on amicable
terms. [Cheers
The sole point uns settled between us is this
You are willing" the United States says, "to
refer to arbitration the question of the Alaba-
ma and other kindred vessels. Are you will
ing TO include as point in the reference the
question whether you were right or wrong in
recognizing the Confederation when You did ?"
Inc answer we have given in substance is that
at present advised we cannot see what bear
Ing the two things have on each other For
all practicable purposes as bearing on the
ONCHt vi loOA you mlSnb as well include the
question whether We are right or wrong in the
war of 1872
In 1919, only twenty years ago, the United
| States government proposed to recogHize the
revolutionary governments of Hungary, not
| merely a; bellieerent, which is a | the cues
tlon now, but as an established thing. The
| ustrlans complained and a correspondence
ensued. 1t was conducted ON the American
SIDE by Mr.. Webster, certainly not the least
| able of American statesmen, and Mr.. Web
| Ster rpnIy these words. 6rFhaf if .ba,
had done so, though the steps would have been
| preclpltate and one from which no benefit
would have resulted, it would not nevertheless
have been an act against the law of nations,
| provided they took no part in the contest
| against Austria" Does not that utterance 90
UNNECESSARILY further Than anything which
has come from us? Cheering] And yet
Ihat is document put forward by the United
| States. -
Will cite another case. In 1886 Texas was
hghtlng Tor independence from the Mexican
repuohc. The question arose abont the admis-
SION 10 New York of vessel bearing the Texan
nag. Inc Um'eI States government defended
tne admission of the vessel, and in the course
OF their Argument they used some remarkable
words which should like to read They be.
gin by saying that from the beginning OF the
revolution South American vessels had been
adml d with their own or a oy O her fac to
the ports OF the United States, and that the
same rule had been observed in civil wars that
mad arisen between the various states.
Mr.. ROebuck-Who is the writer?
Lord Stanley-The foreign minister of the
| day, and he goes on: st has never been held
necessary as a preliminary to the extension OF
the rights of hospitality to either party that
the chances OF war should be balanced and the
PROBABILITY OF eventual success determined"
a ahen lor TINS purpose it has been deemed suf-
nclent that the party had declared its indie
pendence, and at the time was actually main
tanning it. Had not the South declared ifs in
dependence IN 1861; and was it not maintain
ing it?
In the face of these claims mt forward in
the face of the United States Government to
absolute freedom of action in such matters.
now can they claim that an independent State
ougnt TO submit to pay fine If its discretion
these: 'o
FIRST, That the United States propose TO use
matter for consideration which is irrelevant
tothe issue.
Secondly, That the irrelevant question was
one to be decided by considerations of State
policy and not of legal obligation. and. there
lore IS INCAPABLE OF receiving legal solution.
Inlrdly, That the United States Government
III tnelr parallel cases had absolutely refused
TO admit any responsibility for adoptino a sim
liar course; and lastly, that 1 believe no one
would undertake to arbitrate on a case SO en-
trely vague and underlined.
think have said enough to show that the
proposed conditions of the reference were not
arbitrary or capricous, still less were they as
nave seen IL limited out of doors, devices to
evade referring the matter to arbitration at
all, but they were founded OH intellgible and
think, sound principle. Ii the negotiations
have been fer time suspended, will Lot saw
broken off, yet the rupture or suspension does
not come from our side; we made our offer and
it has been declined. According to the ordp-
airy usage 1T is not Tor the complaining party if
they do not like our plan of an Arrangement
to propose their own. But then it is said You
ought to settle the matter at once or you W /,
nave quarrel. am as anxious to settle as
any man IN any part of this house can be- hui
DO not believe in the likelihood of quarrel
lHearl have never concealed my opinion
that the American claimants, or some of the On
at least, under the reference proposed by us
were very likely to make out their case and to
get their money. The money Fart of the lir
Is lhhappreciaoly small, lcheersJ especially as
we have on our side CLAIMS winch, if only
small portion of them hold water and Won
never can tell beforehand how these matters
VIII turn out, will form by no means unim-
pofragnG sec OH to the claims preferred against
u.s. Hear, hear. Although party politics
may run high in the United States, will not
believe that any party can be SO reckless or in
sensible to the interests of their own country
as to engage in quarrel possibly ending in
great and costly war Tor the sake of eutO cling |
IN one particular way, a claim which it was in |
their power to settle, and probably settle in |
their own without any recourse to violence
10 DO so would be con rary not only to lea- |
sonaole view OF the American people, but would |
"
equivalent exists, enforcer nue. porte ouoerte !
breaking out of a door that is not looked
Hear, hear and laughterl
Having stated the facts of the case, and stat
ed them as briefly as could, shall leave the
matter not only to the Judgment of this House
and OF the public in this country, but shall
leaVe 1t to the Judgment of all fair and Impair
tial persons on both sides of the At antic
The noble Lord in resuming his seat was
cheered in the most cordial manner from both
sides of the house
The British League of Peace and Liberty
propose to offer Charles Francis Adams an adj
dress previous to his departure from this coun-
try. The address will be presented through
John Br ght.
Henry w. Lord, who is about to retire from
the American Consulate at Manchester, was
entertained by the merchants of that CITY last |
evening at a farewell dinner. The principal
speech was made by the Mayor OF Manchester, |
VINO expressed his regret at the departure OF |
Mr.. Lord, and warmly eulogized his conduct |
as commercial representative of the United |
States in Manchester.
LONDON, March 12-M idnight-In the House |
OF Commons tonight Mr. Gregory inquired |
what ground the government intended to take |
IN regard to the use of mixed uries for the trial
Of foreigners in English courts
The Attorney Grneral replied that the gov
eminent did not propose to interfere with the
decisions of the judges on that point.
Lord Stanley made an explanation as to the
present State controversy with Spain concern
ing the Tornado case. He said the last step
taken by England was to demand the release
of Mcpherson.
Earl Mayo, chief Secretary for ireland, said
he would submit to consideration of he
House plan for the new Irish University off
GERS which were to be named by the Catholics |
but whose privileges were not to be confined |
exclusively to Catholics
The House then went into committee and |
resumed the debate on the grievances of Ire |
land.
MIR. Horseman, member for Stroud, said the
ministers had promised reform in ireland,
but thelrdretorm proved to be only a commits
sion OF inquiry and new University. More
than this was needed to conciliate Ireland he
deprecated the creation of college of the
character described by the Chief Secretary of
Ireland, as likely foment sectarian bitterness
and anger The laIty was sat SIZED with the
present system of national schools. He de-
cared that M ministerial statement had ever
tunity was lost to conciiate Ireland, Which
should no longer be ruled by English laws,
customs and preiuiices, but according to the
wishes OF the Irish people
Mr.. Robert Lowe followed Oh the same side
declaring the existence OF Fenianism was not
the evidence OF the discomfort, as il was not
shown 4hat the people generally sGmpa thized
with that reDellious spirit TIE trouble was
deep seated
Mr.. Neil deplored the Ieggarly account Of
the Irish policy ministry. He approved of The
and concluded with al gument show ng that
such college as Was proposed was impossi-
be.
Mr.. Thomas Hughes m2de spec h in which
lie urg q general reform IN Ir, land.
M. Vance in the course OF his remarks ar