The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-11-04

can be discussed a 4 ii was simple point Of ~
But, gentlemen, It 10 not possible to sscaps<1e
out-thst the fluctuations OF trade are much less
| under 8 system Of freedom than they are under
proof i in our own history Hany Of Us are Old
| enough TO recocct what used to BE- The
Of a DSs ss ne
before free trade was established what fearful dis
tress In the manufacturing districts used 70 follow
We have this advantage In system OF freedom that
when once you have adapted yourselves 70 II you
know where you are. and calculations be formed
artificial restrictions when You know not what
causes may arise 70 bring distress upon yon Hear
hear) But II Is experience by which after ALL IN the
long run, these questions must be determined; and
speak In the hearing OF those who are able 70
last twenty years, setting aside OF course the
cotton famine which Is matter OF wholly diner
w rse s s nSr sny
speaking Of ordinary revolutions OF trade that vast
extension OF our commerce which we have seea
throughout the country has been attended. not wul
an increase OF 1actnaton, but with an increase OF
stability not less remarkable than the Increase OF
scale Gentlemen, | have hardly left myself . few
moments 10 sly a word upon the Ipish Church qacs
ton, which nevertheless can never be wholly omitted
In an election Ike this. (fiear, heart
cannot venture TO do more than 10 state SUM-
mary OF the leading propositions on which have
presumed 10 dwell ct other places. ! made u ny
frst duty TO point out 10 the people OF TINS country
that, substantially, the question you have To de-
termine Is tnis--not whether you VIII have ono
you will have many church establishments In
Ireland or none-thear, heir)-and that think
proved by showing that when the government pro-
ceeded TO declare deliberately it5 policy for ireland
that policy dad include regular increase 81 endow
ments to the presbl terrain Church In ireland, the
establishment OF a Roman Catholic university al the
expense Of the State, aud plain declaration that
there was no objection 10 place the Roman Catholic
Church upon nearly the same footing as the Church
established provided It done at the public
the present Church estaDlI s6ment Since
hpr
has got a new ally In the person OF the
quarterly Rerieac DO not know whether many OF
you perhaps, may reco.lect that this time last year
there was q most remarkable paper in that review
entitled the conservative Surrender" and that my
words used by the opposition OF the liberal party
We're watery aud faint compared with the blasting,
| whitening ami scorchng scorn which this remark
| government. Wen, but now the Conservative sur
render itself has surrendered There Is new arti-
Gle IN the Qa'teTlv Recier, which read to-day. and
which, having blackened the government twelve
months ago with every epithet that the ingenuity OF
man could extract from the vocabulary for the pur-
pose OF destroying the last rag OF their character and
the last hope OF their prosperity success, this art
Gle winds up now with SAY ing:-"There IS now to be
al election, appeal to the country, and we hope
that IL viii result In the return OF decided majority
| for the government
That + The state OF things at which 1t has arrived:
But refer to It, not because think the Judgment OF
that or any other review, or the Judgment OF any
man or limited body OF men, can in the slightest de-
But because tas uarerv Rssse,o Itself has been fer
many one OF the most open mouthed and loud
est 3uvOcatcS OF paying Inc Roman Cabn0Hc clergy
IN Ireland, and OF coarse, the Presbyterian clergy
with them. am not going TO raise any prejudice
against any one portion OF my fellow citizens IN re-
spect to religion. As long "a they good citizens
they are oil to be dealt with alike Appause) That
has been the favorte instrument OF this particular p0
ucal organ which has been political organ very
importance and has spoken in past years Of the
mass OF the tory party. And that Is your choice.
Even now you will observe on the part OF the gov
erninen no plan is opposed TO our plan. Our plan
Is to remove and put an end TO establishments In
Ireland (cheers)-the plan OF the government is to
rrsau ordr MI fh0nr hao md
the government Of the country has no plan and no
policy to offer you. Cheers) Ipresume to say 1t is
the abuses OF the Church in Ireland, and the report
OF the Commissioners that has lately been presented
proves ana demonstrates the total nn.lly OF any
such scheme. tHear, hear.) l venture to say 1t
shows that under this system which we have main
tanned for the last three hundred years, and espe
clay during the last one hundred years as we have
been removing by degrees the pressure OF the unjust
and even cruel laws by which we kept down for
time the population OF Ireland Ptotestantism
has been dwindling away, Notwithstanding that we
maintained our Church establishment In possession
voioe-aNot true.'l THAT, N my opinion is matter
OF the utmost gravity, because appears TO me that
end to the Establishment in ireland the adversarles
OF Professionalism, unless 1t can be shown that the
"a s WAS Ms rm tae
direct contrary-thear)-and we support our
Ssrno ns sy ss stun .DoR
arc accessible to us at derent periods that the mum.
Catholics steadily diminished for century more,
and that II that dlmnntion has been stopped within
OPERATION one n" Of thai fearful visitation Of Providence
the Irish famine, which deoiinated the Roman Gath
ole population, and also owing to those social causes
which carry them by hundreds OF thousands TO the
shores OF the United States. tCheers.) Every other
plea that has been set up is as idle as 1t is false.
When It is said that the maintenance Of the Church
establishment in Ireland mit.gates religious an
| imoslty, l contend that 1t inhames religious
tyhp m al
by side with men OF the English race and
where they don't get along together tolerany, ex.
Roman Catholics viii never be satisfied, but Will de-
mand the repeal OF the Union why, gentlemen, thus
against every moderate and rational plan of Para-
meutary reform. Cheers.) IL was said the people
they wiz then have republic" In point OF fact,
that Is the old principle upon which our antagonists
90 systematically AK that you will refuse request
which i reasonable, because 1t may be followed by
one that Il reasonable-hearl; whereas the prin-
cipe upon which act, upon which we desire
TO act, anu ask you. TO support is this-grant the
you win have greater power 10 resist the
requests which are unreasonable. tCneers.l In
saying THIS don't let me be supposed 10 nsinuate-
for don't hceve-that there Is this disposition on
the part q the people OF Ireland to make those IN
opinion. cruel 70 say that the people OF Ireland
alienated as large portion OF them may now be,
tee (Cheers.) I know nothing that warrants us
sociated with w. lts.---1fs We have never Thought
them unworthy o. serving tho purposes OF our con-
gencnce, .tihaf, hear) Lancashire has not
beea ashamed TO prolt by their labor; Eng.
lana has not been ashamed 10 profit BY their
v1lor Cheers. In the best times or our army one.
half very frequently, " 10 ranks nave been Glled
BY Irishmen--- renewed cheerinr)-and after
thus tarulg them 10 account, after thns getting out
OF them al that We can, arc we, foTsooh in brave
chvnr0ls Eagland. 90 cast round upon them tbs
look or scorn, aud 10 say, "Rcas0n and Justice have
no empire you yor ars the creatures of passion
aud caprice. and therefore, viii deny TO you tho
rights Of equally and OF freedom.n tCheers.) | re
pndiate with a the force OF which | am capable
doctrines 30 unjust TO them, so unworthy Of our
seiyes-lcheersls0 unworthy OF that glorious past
OF our own history on which our conservative oppo-
nents are sometimes fond OF dwelling, so unworthy
oi that other glorious future towards which, az
hope and trust and believe, with your aid, liberal
policy viii lead 10. prolonged cheering, amid which
Mr.. Gladstone eat down, having spoken sixty three
miuutesl
Mr.. GuESrEfI, who was loudly applauded on
rising addressed the meeting, and In the course OF
his remarks said there. had been various alarming