New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-01-10

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and were heard Of no more
had recommended the appontuent Of an inspector hs
eIr Butts district and inquired whether he inciuueu
him In The class Of thieves and scoundrelsi
Mr. LOGAN replied that he had recommended that per
son as an honest man. and he would like his colleague 10
say whether he considered him suchl
Mr. BURR remarked that he had not made any asser
Mr. LOGAN said he had rot designated any person by
name, and did not mean 10. lie asked his colleague
whether ne DID not believe most OF the revenue officers 10
MI BURR said he did not recognize the responsibility
for their misconduct existing anywhere except III Inc
appointing power which was not and
political fellowship with his friend ana coheaeue' MI
Mr.. LoGAN-who is that
Mr.. BURR-Commissioner Rollins. who appoints these
Mr. LOGAN-Commissioner Rollins makes no appoint
ments, and my colleague certainly more Ignorant IMAM
anybody know If he believes that he does MY coeagne
ought TO know better than TO make such statement
lLaughter His constituents send MN mere as mar o
ability man of genius, an honest ara muege1 t
and he is going to send TO his constituents inc ev
dence OF his own ignorance and want OF Information
Laughter He ought not to do it. llaughterl - 20.
Mr. BURR asked Mr. Logan whether In striving 10 get
appointment for Mr. Dawson OF Illinois, he had not
applied to Commissioners Rollins for It,
Mr.. LOGAN admitted that he had most certainly done
49, and had got Commissioner Rollins to recommend him
to the Secretary Of the Treasury.
Mr.. RANDALL Dem, Penn THAT Is the way they are
Mr. LoGAN-It is not the way they all appointed;
many are appointed without Commissioner Rollins know
ing anything about them. Ii members OF Congress go 10
Mr. Rollins and recommend certain men, he will take
their word it, aud members Of Congress should he
very careful to recommend honest men, as do Laugh
teri But my colleague has stated precisely In enect
what have stated 1t is not q question OF law but OF
fact. The appointing power, by law, may be IN one
place, hut by evasion OF the law, the authority may 10
exercised i'm very different officer which my friend adj
uits the case and with that admission am satisfied
Ny colleague belongs to the other side OF the House au
Now ask my colleague to why il is that men on his
side of the House are all the time Trying
move ee these thcves who have been appointed 1t
they particularly satisfied that all tnese scOuh-
dres shall remain IN cce II iney can oy ets e Eo a
body removed. The President Will not remove anyDody
me win Now sges TO NV
and to all these gentlemen about me- that they WIN come
go aughter the President and the Secretary OF the
Treasury on behalf OF the county and on behalf Of the
tax-payers and let US, In one Solid phalanx. ask the
President and the Secretary to these men, against
whom charges have been proved showing they are
scoundrels ask the gentlemen on the other side' VIII
Members on tie Democratic side Certainly
Mr.. LOGAN-Then let us all go this evening" llaugh,
teri The Chairman OF the Committee OF Ways and
Means wi with us and we may DO able perhaps, 20
turn these men out OF Office who nave been appointed
within the last fourteen months.
Mr.. ELDRIDGE dem. visit desire 10 make a sug-
geston TO the gentleman from Illinois (Mr' Logan 1t
Mr.. L0GAN-Puti 1t IN tie form OF question: and
Mr. TLDRIDGE-I desire to say that whether the re-
spousbiitv for these appointments rests Oh Mr. Rollins
or not, the testimony taen before the impeachment
single Instance applied the President for change in
ay Of these officers where lie has been satisfied that
there has been corruption dishonesty, OF any Olutr us
qualification OF the incumbent
Mr.. LOGAN-Is that the suggestion the gentleman
wanted To make
Mr FLDRIDGE-I merely wished TO call the attention
Of the gentleman 10 what Mr. Rollins says The ques-
represented to the President that any incumbent OF the
Revenue Service dishonest or corrupt ana ought 10
DE renovedF Ana 10 'c question ~ W ,i hd ~ N t;,1
have not IL IL not the practice OF INC he'tI % 4 n
Teau to communicate with the President furlher on
Mr.. LOGAN dnterrupting)-I do not yield to hear the
evidence Of the Impeachment Committee read read IL
all myself and 1 was disguised with it llaughterl; not
with the evidence particularly, but with the results
MIR ELDRIDGE-One single word. Mr.. Rollins named
persons az guilty OF fraud ma VINO ought 10 oe re-
moved; and The question was ITO him
Were thee s,r; KspqeI9' A. ra nave n no %sni
Sy5ieI Mr. Lcola they We're g y repatel
canaot cay whether they were or not
Mr. LOGAN Gnterruptng)-I do not yield any longer
for the gentleman TO read anything more OF that hope
a the members Of the House have read that evidence
yielded for question suggestion, and the gentle
man has neither asked question made suggestion.
Mr.. ELDRlDGE-The gentleman VIII allow me 10 read
one further question and ansveri
Mr.. LOGAN-I decline 10 do so.
Mr.. ELDRIDGE tperssting)-The question was put 10
Mr. LOGAN dnterruptng)-No. cir. decline TO have
any question put 90 through Mr.. Rollins f you have
any question 10 put put II directly to myself ana VIII
Mr. ELDRIDGE-The gentleman from Illinois holds
the floor, and must DO as he says VIII then AK MN
II his opinion Is that the law recently passed which pre-
vents the President from removing officer without the
consent of the Senate has had tendency TO continue
these fraudulent officers in office, and 10 produce pre-
csey the state Of things which the gentleman mas been
Gescrlbngi Mr.: Rollins says i has -,-,.
Mr.. LOGAN-rhe gentcman's question Is very simple,
and can answer II. The majority OF these officers To-
day WHO charged with these frauds are nine opt Often
not officers whose appointment before the Senate
confirmation. said that long ago; but viii answer
further The gentleman has the evidence taken before
porting officers the President; Mr. Rollins had nothing
10 do with the President Mr. Rollins reports TO his chief
nothing do with the point Of discussion But now,
will answer the genteman's question further. say
tary Of the Treasury, will ask for the removal Of any
officer or for his on me ground that ne has
assure him that the Senate will agree TO every such re-
mova which the President suggests and which he backs
mn with the statements that the officer is dishonest
Mr. RANDALL-Will the gentleman from Illinois (Mr.
Logan allow me to sateAmy experience IN connection
Mr. L0GAE-Tdo not want the gentleman's expert
nave nan a ns ds aoHt it
Mr. RANDALL only wanted 20 state that | WAS
asked by grave tomake bargain on that very
Mr. ELDRIDGE-I understand the gentleman from
Illinois TO propose that should 40 the President and
mouths II that bargain to be made wish it TO in-
cude all the appontees so that we VIII get rad OF al the
OF The appointees OF Mr. Lincoln dishonest
Mr. LoGAN-very well; | agree to that; agree TO
make clean sweep Of II all the way through IL might
be OF advantage TO Mr. Johnson and am sure it would
help the Of the country great deal desire
10 DOW lIe DCitHJ VI
want to make this bargain that have also proposition
make Last there was collected from the revenue
spirits VS. 100000 say here TO test the honesty OF
Mr. McCuoch and OF your Presdentfor he is not ours
Members the Democratic side, lie ~ not ours
DO not know whether he, Doolttle Hancock Is TO
be- the next President, according 10 the nominations
made down here ut this meeting last night. laughter
mean do not know which of them Will run for the
next Presidency.
Mr.. E1DRIDGE-gt will be Gen Grant, IL he gets on
the platform. Laushterl
Mr. LOGAN-That is exactly what he Ia going 70 do
the proper platform, IL he gets ON one at all But what
was going 10 say s there to-day who would give
Mr. McCuoch nifty millions Of dollars II such contract
could he made though know IL could not be under the
law-who would pay into the treasury Of the United
before Saturday next fifty millions or dollars ana
mil all the expense OF the collection OF the revenue from
whisky AMI take the thor pay for ts collection
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