New-York tribune., 1868-04-01


friendly greeting between Stanton and Thomas while in
were questions tnd Of which the copy was all
exact transcript slough it did not exhibit the whole con-
that Thomas usd and that he did dot get down. The
notes covered 81 the conversation OF any Importance
what he wrote vas verbatim question and answer; did
not take it In sbft hand The conversation very
slow and del6ee Thomas said very Little IN taat con, m
wished him 10 yseate Immediately, whether he would
give HIM time to arrange his private papers
Redirect examination by Mr.. BUTLER-The remark TO-
fcrred to by mn m his eross-sxamnatlon tnet oc-
cured to him and that he had not written out was
thing onpleasant;S that was what Thomas said.
Recross examination by Mr.. srANBERY-2 This en- m
phasis the wori-I don't know its materially Did he
speak that word IN the ordinary wayi A. He spoke ia
the way have mentioned. He said he did not want
any "OnpleasaDuessp Witness said this occurred In the
first part the conversation before Thomas went to his
had taken part Of the conversation before tnaj
Mr. BINGHAM"I suppose It is not for the witness to
swear what he thought about it."
the perfection OF the witnesss memory IL Is certainly ma
ieral TO know why hes omitted some parts and testified
Mr.. BINGHAM withdrew the objection.
MR. JuIEs X. MooRHEAD's TESTIMONY.
James X. Moorhead sworn on behalf Of the Managers
Direct examination by Mr. BUTLER-Witness is
member Of tho House Of Representatives. was present
e the War a on Gem e TSmas 2, TO be there
that morning 10 take possession OF the Department;
went there from his boardngouse In company WIN MI
Inrlelgh who no understood, had some conversation
With Gen Thomas the night before; Mr.. Van Horn had
correctly reported what took place could eolr0Dofate
% o6jeCtioD by Mr cURfis wltnes. proceeded to say
'S he was Tnta followed S BY ar stanton and himself Mr.
ton then put Question to Gen Thomas and asked Wit
ness TO remember Il, which induced him 10 make memo
randum OF ie, which lac thought he still had among
bic papers, t was made briefly and roughly but 80 that
he could understand it: Mr. stanton-Gen. Jhonas,
you claim to be here as Secretary Of and refuse to
obey. Ordersi Gen. Thomas replied do, SIR After e
the hall when ho heard something that attracted his at
tentlon. and he returned Mr stanton then sald Gen.
deITered 70 him. Cen Thomas-"I require the mails
of the Department 10 he delivered TO me- and Will trans
Thomas he had made Of these words and he as
serted and added, So You may make 1t as fnH as you
%sje tGa' ibe s .RS S pSce "n''' 'u'
Cross-eIamined BY Mr.. stanbery-,witness bad not
made memorial OF the number OF persons he found
at Mr. santons Office when he arrived there and could
not remember a Of them there were number OF mem
bers OF Congress he had Mr.. Van Horn and Judge
Kelley there; had been there just about half an hour
when Gen. Thomas came in; saw him through the WIN
doys which were open toward tho White House, COM
ing, somebody having announced the fact he came
alone, e, . A..
witness here made an observation inaudble in the
reporters gallery but which caused eonsueraDie cri
witness resumsd-when Gen. Thomas came in he said.
men, thought IA stanton asked him whether he had
any business vita him. stanton was sometime sitting, ting
SOME time standing; did not know which he was doing
when he spoke thought he did not ask Thomas 70 take
scat, and thai Thomas dad not take one; thomas mas
sd interim. appointed by the President, and
had como 10 take possession; nothing was Sns sald
you're Adintanttneral order you to your room" He
replied tnat he would not obey the oer % tas ne was
room. stanton followed asking witness To accompany
him; did not know what he wanted him for supposed he
was going 70 conversation; Van Horn also
followed; thoughtthere was something uhlmpoItaht ~
remember Il; il was Joking or something OF that Kind
to- no purpose; they did not seem TO be IN any
passion not hostile dd t, not reoSl.e9' ToS@ SHORTY
after the remark pa, Mr. stanton asked him to remem
her. had got back into Mr. stanons before that,
and was Induced return from overhearng conversa-
tion which he thought was important wnereupon Spn-
gard 10 tho mails OF the Department, and that he
Ih0masl was ther AS Secretary OF War witness came
nrs from Gen schryers room; Mr stanton remained
but very shod time; Il then ~ o'clock, and be
and other meme went TO the capitol leaving the rest
OF the COMPANY ! irc; did not remember who stayed
number Of could not remember whether NIL
itary civilian thought he had seen Gen Grant there
during the morning bur not while Gen. Thomas was
there; d not recOect Of Thomas using the expression
that he wished no unpleasantness.p, u,...., Can
Thomas wanted to get In, Think and Mr. stanton wanted
O. But there was nothing offensive on either sdei A.
Nothing very begerent on either side.
WaS 'seEe any lTkng Kong ~ az don RnoW Sir 10 "'
q. No occasion for laughf A. IL was more stern IN
Mr stantons Mr.. Stanton ordered Mr. Thomas TO
O THAT is the only thing that looked like sternnessi A
Redirect examination by Mr.. Butler: q. The Presi-
dents counsel has asked you II that occasion he was
was masked Z lLaughter.l A. He was not, Sir
Mr.. WALTER A. BURLEIGH's TESTIMONY
Mr.. Walter A. Burleigh was sworn on DehaI OF the
Direct examination by Mr. Butler: @. What IS your
Burieigh; am a delegate from Dakota Territory.
Q. DO yon know Lorenzo Thomas, AdjutantGeneraI OF
'Uo O. How long have you known hlm A. For several
O. Have You been on terms Of intimacy with himl A.
Q. Has he been at your house since you have been
o. DO YOU remember an occasion when You had con
ssalio5 with Mr. Moorhead about visiting Mr. stantons
oficei A. recolec going TO the secretary OF War WITH
Mr. M9orhead On the morning OF the 2sd Oh feDru"y
o. On the evening before had you seen Gen. Thomasi
A. i had. .,
- what fine i'm the eyeningi A. In the early part OF
the evening; | cannot say exactly the hour. -, s,
o. Had Won conversation with himf A. les on;
Mr. STANBERY-W What Is the relevancy OF that what Is
Mp BtjTIER The object is TO show the intent and
purnose with which Gen. Thomas went TO the War De
parment the morning OF the 2!d tnat nc wen t VIII
that he alleged that intent and purpose that III
quence OF that allegation Mr BurieSh in'eu u uGn en-
conversation, what expect TO prove 70 tmsA1er@ @ tns
President q the United States had appointed war e Sen
and after he had made quiet visit there on the 2l on
the evening Of the 22d he told Mr. Bnregn ths e sn. p
day he going to take possession by force MI Bur
'r MT ST. sTASBERY-NO matter about that we object to
Mr. BuTIER-Then you don't know what you have to
object 10 ~ yOu don't know what lt ls lLa"Shl 81,
The CHIEF,JUsTICE decided the testimony admissible,
speaking In very low tone
THE POWERS oP THE cHrEFJUsTIcE.
Senator DRAKE-l suppose the matter OF admlttihg lne
testimony is matter for the Senate and not Tor tho pre-
siding officer. The question should be submitted, ts.
10 the Senate take exception to the presiding ohcer
undertaking 20 decide the point - . ,.,. l., %,
The CHIEF-JUsTICE, r1sing-The ChicfJustice is OF
oninon that should decide objections 10 evidence
II he is incorrect in that opinion IL is Tor the senate
correct him. -, s,.to y, ,ho
Senator DRAKE-I appeal from the decision OF the
Chair and demand the deelson OF the senate. ..,
senator FOWLER asked that the question be stated
The eCHIRF-JUSTiCE-The ChiefJustice would stsle
10 he senate that in his Judgment, II If his duty 10 de
eide on questions OF evidence In the nrst instance ana
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