New-York tribune., 1868-04-14

be- IA fs n ions between him aud the President had
got % tAc pcpt that Mr.. stanton was uSiag 10 go
in hs caton TO the House Of Representatives on
the M % ash when the HOUSE ses rap anf tbat he not
only had NOT cen the President but had had no omciai
comancsa with him since the atn ibs ssrSce 10 be
hen y Cat Certainly IS no io te M tat oSe
som. ono v.tnwhom to advise What has the Secretary
Of War beeone One oftwo hlngsls Inevitable ne eter
s ,s or S hss from the The President
could no get o Of the dlicuy unless py I nnte y
aI s sslps S penSed hm Would You ask him
Senators 10 90 aiat Now, when you are LOOKING into
President ha bad beyond that when you see the neees
sites OF the public scrvice when you see that no ioger
tsTc %s md iO ihe Presdent is It, ask that the
seryiee sou be carried IN that way when is 10 en-
the serr Of War Sa on Them 70 ns wsn SGe yoS SUp are
considering ~ conduct and intention and the matter ID
and when va md that he has not only been advised
10y Gen. i,hrman that the good OF the service
ihermsA srliertook also TO communicate TO him the
opinion Of ta Grant to the same purpor and when we
neushedt crais 10 20 TO Mr. stanton, and to tell him
that for fhsgood Of the service he ought resign do
the quess 4 intent should be adnittedi Now when
are n the he Is pe,dsnt a,s d s n h w yOS
Senators s1t ont the view of those two distinguished
Generals, and tciare ttat hs motive was 70 remove
Mr. TIJrirT-fr President and Senators, foresaw
that II We hfd remained In session on SATURDAY evening
OF an these qsestns foresaw that the effort would be
% %s h tsd9 vR PnsSen sRS neO Or
to the fresiden;; and now the proposition is TO
ask Gen. shennan whether nc dd not Torn Torn
removed whether the good Of the service did not re-
9 M q & War 0es Sde a mar san,En opnSn snd 10 hs
President Vel there epTd M sssIS aoI De any Ser
sr ys s h Il W be- them to ask him
whether ae indicated his opinion TO MT stanton his
opinion I,sS ss gst Il nat at G !. ,Set, Sesa"'e
Mr. Buffgk-aow long is Ght patience to he tried IN
this ey glad that ne sta,e % H @ naS Po what
nors will Judge eera 10 pm mt
this i or se that cannot defend the President
Well II they cannct defend the President without
breach OF he law added to his breach OF the law then
do not le necessity of his being defended They are
breaking lawjn defending him, because they arc Ut
tempting torut In testimony which has no relevancy no
cogeney and ssnpetency under tho la% IL Is very
easy 10 test IL very easy after YOU nave leu lo 9ue
Inc 10 ash Gen. Sherman whether he had not come 10 an
equally firm oiision that 1t was Tor the good Oh tne
Mr.. johnson @ should be removed. The learned
Attorney Gereralsays that Gen sherman came 70 the
War Depariny1t required that some other person than
Mr stanton s1a d Eden up n Ih9 tha. heSe e"pcations
required The removal of Mr. Johnsoni Inc HOuse Oh
s Thought Ihat ne1e 1ensnp and are
you g0ipg g !t a Gen. Sherman 10 conhteFDaaee tns
Is tEe ppssgt ~ 10 he relieved Of wrong intent because
Cen sherman thoaght that Mr. stanton bad man.
pnT mq Stanton oSti J. the President say be held limo
cent therefore N putting him out Can we 70 lno ,s
orn q oynsz speak wholly EyytnSiIe. S9u We would
have 20 ask trn Sherman as TO his relations with s
stanton whethes he quarced with hlui, and whether
those relations al NOT make think that i would be
fer the COED ef the service 10 Set tla OF moi num- an
unforunaIe af, srty between youi II the Senate wiz
allow opinions In 1t cannot prevent our gong INTO
i, a kind Of i airy INTO which have no desire 10
enter, ard pa he senate nor 70 enter mo u Ior ,Ie
ohor oesiiaQ Mould be- what were the grounds on Gen.
sherpans 90 -oh We should have 70 go lnrthel, we
could II Ori' shernan put in - expert We Would
have call zen. sheridan and Cen George ~ lnonss,
cay whether tic whole they did not think u Would ne
clearly demonstrate te fact mat TINS evidence can
not be put in the ground that Gen sherman Is az ek
WHO II they are quite expert just as much eH-
pcrts IN the eye OF tho law as he and the suugAe s
Srmce would be- The counsel for the President
say that they o this 20 chow that the Presldeht ha1
not a wrong imtcut There has bcen good deal said
about intent as though intent had got to be proved by
some body swearing that the President tod MN ne no
that yon must bring who heard the President
gsy he had a bud INTENT or something equivalent 70 tn1
law of thc land by the removal OF Mr. Stantoni Then
the law supplies the intent aud says that no man can 90
wroug iufeuding to do hight. IL II were fact tat Mr
stanton should have put out would that JUSTIFY me
president breaking the law OF the land "a gu1ng nun
ou shall Won do evil that good may GOMEZ Inc qucs-
tlu ia Whether 1t were better TO have Mr. stanton
On thai question Senators may be divided M VI oIaon %
Senators here who think 10 wond DE Delter 20 ~;
stanton out but that IL not the question IL " tisI %
ntiye officer order 10 get Mr. stanton Out sec Neie
you are going 1t would DO admitting yusuncaoh iS iSa
fhe pre- or any other Executive Ohcer 10 bfeA le
law Of th6 land Il he could show that he did what ne
thought good thing put wicked one o,iHn sn
acted upan that idea, Let me illustrate; IsitG |;
You Senators aud the House OF
la that no man could hold Office IN the Southern states
ha President Of the United states put men into once
who could not take that oath, and attempted 10 justly
that before the senate anu pSiUs hn ,V bs3 Hing for
The service That was breach OF the law; and we had
e 10 nI them before the Senate could have
sustained articles OF Impeachment upon them one
heard here over again hat Mr. stanton could
not have Cabinet council since August H. M mHGo0 vs. t
in a week Of August 2 He did ms uu,y
sPPa he wa, them Msn% suspended until the 18th January
and when he back into office IL was nor 1or tho
TO notify Mr. stanton at the head Of the War Dspar
ment and take his seat III the Cabnet but Int
thus thrust himself upon the President, but It was for
him 10 go when he understood that his presence would
ces nor @ on without Cabinet Board and the learned
counsel has Just told that 1t was board
an board There Is not ono word III tue
Constitution about Cabinet or about board; i Inc
shield Tor the President and there has been an attempt
Ly some OF the Presidents friends to get this board
around them 10 shield them from the conse
| guenees OF their acts. The Constitution says tnat
| the heads OF Departments may be called upon IN
reference to their respective Offices to give opinions IN
writing TO tho President the rule OF The cary Pe
dents yas 10 call upon the Cabinet officers for them
opinions in writing have on my table here an opinion
An yrtingi given by Thomas Jefferson 10 George Wasn
inetop about his right TO appoint ambassadors:
Headsof Departments are not to sit down anu
consult with the President they aTs hSs % o. nave ET
| ecutiye ,pOwer which has grown up miie
Inv little formed upon the Cabinets OF the OLD worid
The trainers OF the Constitution well knew that from ln
Cabinet councils Ia England came that celebrated wol
"cabal which has been the synonym OIL all thht evil