The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-12-10

Mr.. BROOKS, ldem-l OF N. r., a member OF the Re-
not have risen or sad word on the subject II the
gentleman nom OHIO. Mr.. Bingham) had not made
the remark about me bill being the unanimous ac-
Mr.. BNanAn said that perhaps he ought no. 70
have made Il 50 strong.
OF the committee often acquiesce In the action Of the
majority HGs
Mr. BROOKS communicative do not approve that
action, but we are not blind to events / con-
scious, for instance, that the popular voice OF
large majority has voted to remove you MI Speaker,
from this hall to another branch OF the government
aud am not insensble to existing events lslnply
Mr. sd \, M1 sad that ss was thankful to the
gentleman from New York for the correction, as II
would have given him pain 70 have STOOD upon tne
record incorporating his colleague ON the commit-
tee. That gentleman was kind enough TO say that
he acquiesced In the action Of the committee, and
that was all which he Mr.. Blnghaml meant He had
not seen that there was any opposition 10 the phi'
and he did not think there could be any:
Mr. ELDRipGE inquired Of Mr.. Bingham what ne
meant oy saying that estates were In revolution and
nothing else but revolution
Mr.. BINGHAM remarked that he thought he had
made himself properly understood.
Mr.. ELDRlDGE said he did not understand him, and
nc desired TO know whether. II the State or Virginia
Should refuse to adopt the constitution submitted to
II, that would be an act OF revolutionY
Mr. BINGHAM replied IN the negative, ana said that
II the gentleman from Wisconsin tdr. Eldridge) had
attended to his worte he would have understood
him, as he generally made himself understood lie
ventured to assert here that when the question
should be broadly made before the American people
land IL those movements went on it would inevl-
taby be made) whether any State IL In revolution
and is guilty Of reyolutionary action, which under
takes to repeal Its prior action an amendment OF
the constitution, the people would, by an over
Whelmng majority declare that 1t was revolutionary
TO make himself July understood he desired 10 say
that the State Of oregon guilty OF revolution la
the action 10 had taken. That mode was not proper
1t was an act or revolution, step wards anarchy
and for one he desired to hasten such action the
pare OF the people OF Virginia as would result In
putting an end to any further controversy to the
question to whether the fourteenth article OF the
constitution had been ratified. That was one reason
why he desired ia see this bill passed and passed
speedily that there might be an end of this trial
Il the people OF the United states desired to throw or
that amendment they knew how to d. 1t In the mode
prescribed by the constitution.
Mr.. VAN TRUMP, ldem.) of Ohio, asked his col
league whether the ratification OF the amendment OF
the Legislature OF ONO was consuInmate act until
the certificate Of the Secretary or State OF the United
States was furnished?
Mr.. BINGHAM replied that undoubtedly 1t was,
and that the Secretary OF state tut The register
OF tie people Of the United States speaking through
its Congress. He did not admit that the recent
action OF the Legislature Of Ohio valid; but de-
clared that was revolution and ha desired to put
stop TO such revolutionary movements on the part
and security TO this great people.
ME-. FARNsw0RTH rep.) Of Ill, another member OF
the Reconstruction Committee, stated the reasons
WHICH controlled his Judgment and made him favor
the bill. He thought the election In Virginia should
take place before the adjournment Of Congress. in
action might be taken by Congress as would be
needlul in the premises. He believed that tile pre-
valllng opinion was that the constitution would be
adopted. The people there wanted security, peace
the better.
Mr.. BUTLER, (rep.) OF Mass advocated later day
for the election. The day liked in the bill, he said,
would occur within twenty days OF the time when it
the usage in Virginia to enter into contracts for
labor and when 1t would be within the power oil the
landholder to starye ne laooring people 1t
was TO be held at o time when there was no
intu a. nj IN -xtl9rQ ffar f,f th1.
Executive In restoring or maintaining order or pun
ishing violence, ct time when there was no GER
tainty that the schemes Of Louisiana, Georgia and
Texas would not be re-enacted. lie should like to
have the fourth Thursday OF May xed that being the
usual day Of holding elections Ia Virginia. at that
thsy Could i've In spite y sSs d
who might be opposed to them. At that time the
port law and order; at that time they would have
the power, which they had not now, OF Furnishing
murder and riot; at that time they could assure to
the people oil Virginia what they have not had since
$780, lair election For these reasons he favored
the posiponement of the election Till the fourth
Thursday OF May, and he offered an amendment to
Mr.. WAsHBURsE, Of ILL.,, had no objection to
| have that time xed instead or the time indicated
1 by himself He believed the result oil holding the
election In January next would be to throw that
Stnte inevitably into the hands OF the other side
| Not single person would be elected who would mo-
bo opposed 10 the ReconSkruct0n acts and ~ every
| thing connected with them. II the negroes should
attempt to vote under all the difficulties stated by
tue gentleman from Msssacau mr. ButleT) there
would b0 such scenes OF violence and b0oslshed y
ana isas. L was SsPetcss to duty II oosarsss
| In order TO protect coi0rcd men, TO nix the time Of
the election for day when ne strong arm Of loyal
Mr.. KELLEY, trep.J OF Pa, favored the amendment
OF MI. Butler. He needed nothing else than the re-
vince him that Congress must secure to the citizens
OF African descent their rights. The election
services Of the soored aeorsr %er rue Of Vse s
his employer not In the winter when laborers could
be turned or temporarily without detriment TO en-
pIoyers. Every guard should be thrown around
these c0l0red people, instead OF leaving them az
victims 10 their oppressOrs and betrayers The con-
duct OF tho republicans Of the Georgia Legislature
had made nm doubtful OF those who claimed to be
tho friends Of the c0l0red man In that state, and he
was glad Of this early and brief opportunity Of hold
ing up TO obl0Quy, and as warning 10 the republ-
cans OF the House. the treachery OF the republican
leaders Of Georgia
Of tho Reconstruction Committee, expressed his
regret that he had not been III the city
In time 70 attend a,r the meeting o. the com.
TO defer any positive action In either Of these un0r
Iunate States until the committee had completed
the inquiry with which II was charged on Monday,
as to the condition OF public affairs IN Georgia. vr-
GINA, Mississippi and Texas. lie thought that the
action OF Congress In the admission Of Georgia was
mistake, rs 1t pu. the loyal people OF that State
inso the custody vi the rebels. lie was not inclined
to enter the same policy In reerpnce to the other
tney reconstructed and admitted 10 representa-
ton political power IN them would he kept la the
nahas ot Tue loya people, lie was, therefore, IN
favor of the amendment. -
THE PRESIDENTS MESSAGE.
Az this point OF the discussion, at i've minutes
past one O'clock MIR. Moore, the Presidents private
secretary, appeared and delivered the Presidents
annual Message, which was thereupou read to tie
House by its Clerk, SIR. McPher.on. The reading
occupied an hour and ten minutes.
Tue reading being concluded, Mr.. wAsHBURvE, OF
ILL.,. rose and sad-i move that the Message be laid
on tue table and printed. suppose that on thas
motion discussion rs In order.
The sPEAKER--A motion 10 lay on the table In un-
debatable.
Mr. WAsH8URSg--I withdraw that part of the mo-
ton desire 90 cal the attention OF the House and
OF the country 10 portion OF tho Presidents Mes
sage, on pages eleven and twelve, In reference TO
the varion5 plans proposed for the payment OF the
public debt. consider the proposition recon-
mended 10y the President plain, undisruised
epndiation and Tor one, wish TO take the earliest
opportunity Ia enter my emphatic protest against Il
and 10 denounce ~ as disgrace to the country and
TO the Chief magistrate who has sent such q
sage.
Mr. BRooxAIJ, trep) OF Pa, asked Mr.. wash
burhe 10 yield TO him 70 offer a resolution.