New-York tribune., 1868-05-13

1t can scarcely be called debate-On the first of
Mr.. Gladstone's resolutions on the Irish Church,
scarcely single speaker of any eminence has
thought it worth while to be heard the exceptions
being Gen. Peel or the one side and Mr. Horsman on
the other, neither OF whom contributed anything to
our stock of knowledge To the taunt from the Tory
side that this was only party to got the MN
stTy out Of Office Mr. Horsman responded that judg-
ingfrom their experience on the Reform question the
best way to secure the disestabshment of the Irish
Church would be to keep in Office Tory ministry,
pledged to maintain the Church But apart from
few such retors as this the speeches have neither
point nor interest It IS perfectly PLAIN that Mr Ds-
rael is playing his old game of delay. When Mr.
Gladstone pressed for VOTE the IIime munster M e
talked IN q strain which you are accustomed 10 near
from the Democratic minority in Congress Inc
privileges of debate were IN danger. However the
stupidity of the discussion IS more thah even DIS
raeli can stand and it Is agreed that vote snail De
taken on the first resolution .lhursday nignt.
"Wednesday is dies non in Parliament, being the
evening reserved for dinner parties Lord Derby
started debate in the Upper House on Jne 1IlSh
question and Lord RusselPs consistency pnt the
practical result of it is not important Two old men,
who have been each 40 years IN pubic Ire, can
always find subjects of attack in each others pOntI-
cal career. The most noteworthy sentence IN LOr
Derby's speech was his declaration that he should
advise the Government not TO resign, no matter
how often defeated IN the present Parlamenlt
The Chancery SUIT by which Mrs. Lyon seeks to re,
cOyer from the spiritualist, Mr. Home, her gilt OF
100000 is still uncOnoluded. In the course OF his
crOss-examinatiOn the stand yesterday, Mr. Home
in him when he was SIX months old This is almost
equal TO the Roman Catholic saint, who when an IN
FAINT always refused the breast on Fridays. Beng
asked whether he was able TO move tables at SIX
months of age he replied that he was not; that the
external manifestations began IN 1850. after the
Rochester revelations in America Yet he declared
at another time that the manifestations when lad
occurred TO him from childhood lncluded tne os-
placement Of material objects and the seeing OF pc
culiar visiOns He had both seen spirits and con-
versed with them orally. When he heard Taps, no
took it for granted as IN the call OF the telegrapn
wire that there was an intelligence ct the end OF IT.
IL appears also that the language used by the spirits
is Exceedingly beautiful and elevated" Whether
the spirits came or not was matter over winch he
had no control Questioned as to tho value OF these
communications, Mr.. Home replied that they con-
WINGED those who did not believe IN IT OF the lm-
mortality of the soul Admitting that the spirits
sometimes play practical jokes, such as knocking
things about and knocking against persons ne % con
sdered that there more elevated side 70 them,
that persons had sometimes received usetul lnfolna
tiOn. When asked to particnlarlze he eyaded the
question by the remark that the spirits don't gener
ally interfere with affairs Of earth. Still pressed
upon this point he said that persons nave received
predictions counsel and advice, but again qualified
this by adding morally speaking yes but otherwise.
nOD He was positive they could not be useIul III
stockjobbinR but had known them give tntorma,
ton in few isolated instances as TO travelling ana
health 1t is pity the counsel did not apply to him
the crucial question, Who win win the Derby in
1857 The attempts and failures Of the mediums to
solve successive Derby problems in advance OF the
race seem to have done as much as anything 10 con-
vince the British public OF the eharlatanlsm OF spirit
ualism. Mr.. Home fenced with the various questions
put to him, sometimes cleyerly enough, as man
ought who has had long experience IN the oracuiar
art and the oraeles of Delphi did long before him
and the Roman augurs after them. To do him JUS
tice, he gave the spirits doubtful character swofe
he would not follow their advice unless he thought
It sound; that one spirit might palm himself of
another; that peculiarity OF dress would, however,
identify them and that he did not IN this case mean
the ghost of Dress but such dress as he OF she wore
As to his spiritual atheneum" in Sloane-st., Mr..
Home testified that it was not money-maklng con-
cerR; that when he became Secretary of 1t he was
exceedingly poor that he had profession OF trade
He did not deny that be received ESQ from Mrs;
Lyon for her hrst Two visits, ana aamitted
further that gifts were very often sent him
that, his travelling and other other expenses
and that at least person before Mrs. Lyon had
s. been induced TO settle money upon him. The donor
was too much Of gentleman to seek TO recover i
back In chancery," from which we are plainly meant
TO infer that Mrs. Lyon IS not gentleman. Hel
sought TO Influence the plaintiff against her own i'm
pulse TO bestOw him the sum of 10000. In re-
spect to the first $4,000 his efforts did not postpone
the gift more than four days from the time of the
first interview between himself and Mrs. Lyon NOT
did his scruples prevent him from taking her in cab
to the Bank Of England and securing the transfer of
stock to himself The cross examination was con.
fined to comparatively few points In the course OF
it-or it may have been on the direct examn9tion- on
Mr.. Home expressed his belief that there are llOSV-
900 spiritualsts in the United States alone Whether
they regard Mr. Home as member IN good and reg
ular standing cannot say; but he IS, at any rate
the most celebrated of spiritual apostles in Europe
IL may be true that his SlOane-st. Athen9um does
not pay for public interest in spirtualism died away
who avoids connecting hs name with spirits may
still do good business in suitable hall IN Picca-
dly, with moderate entrance fee at the door,
Mr. loves claims to lead the education movement
in England are roughly dealt with in a recent ad-
dress by Mr.. Chadwick, himself one OF the most
practical and eminent of educational reformers. If
there is anything upon which Mr. Lowe plumes him
self It Is bus revised code lie poasted that II had
saved the country &J0O,OO0. which may be, OF may
not Mr.. Chadwick shows the effect OF one provision,
abrogating the claims OF pupil teachers on the
Government whatever may have been the pecuniary
saving cut down the pupils in the normal schools IN
single year from S2l TO 4S6. lie adds " Ihe female
teachers have fallen from 40 to 6o5 Ibe candidates
have fallen i'm quality as well numbers, against an
increasing demand. The direct economy claimed Tor
the results of the revised code nvOyesn the degra-
datiOn of the education of the people, and OF their
productive power and Vaue--waste ON the largest
scale Three of these normal colleges are sunk, most
of the rest crippled and we have not yet got to
the end of the mischief" All this has nothing to do
with Mr. loves views on POndeTatlon, or scientific
education as against classical but with his admins
fIqtion as Vice President of the Prlyy Council Edu
cation Committee where he has had his way TO a
great extent with such results aSare Indicated ABOVE
Take another instance Professor flans, OF Edln-
burgb not long before his DEATH desired to found In
the University of Edinburgh chair for teaching the
principles of teaching. He ready TO give t2,O0O
with Nh Lowe as the Official who had most control
in educational matters. MIR. loves response was
that In his opinion there were no principles IN teach
ing and that consequently he could not be party to
the institution of any such chair Professor Pllans
declared that he could not have been perempt-
Orily snubbed if he had been asking personal favor
Instead of offering gift And be wisely kept his
one word more about Mr. Lowe. The independ-
Se;ng stisendiary of The Times. That he wrote for
the leading journal was once feather IN ms cap.
That he still contributes to 1t be seems still anxious
TO conceal. Some time since, Mr. Lowe declared on
his honor that he had not written leading article IN
The Times for months. 1t turned ont that he dictated
them to his wife. Teh-known gentleman
parcel Of letters from his cheesemOnger which
the latter described as having been bought