New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-04-11

we arc now talking but at night under bis conspiracy
courts The gentleman has undsrt1.en t., to give
Cen Thomas declared that he going TO enter that
office by force That "a the matter which our evidence Is
now addressed tO-that the conspiracy between Gen
Thomas and the President one that should e exeou
ted by the exhibition OF force, ana threats
Gen Thomas, not made on Oath as we propose 70 nave
tnen made now OUT ms md could Contradict
him. not under OATH aud OF eonyeIsalhon " aI
me resident c0nld cohtisdo. nm ~ oga{nst tIe Pre
dent Of this conspiracy and, not merely mat Os on OH ~
aEaP IN ana not Sn ta e b IN witness here with
the eyes OF all Maryland upon him: ,,.oors ,,
Dir. BUTLER and Senator JOHNSON simultaneously
Mr.. Observation-Disclosures with the eyes OF al Del
he proves that on that night GEN Thomas also made
declaration involving the President In fits conspiracy as
party TO conspiracy TO keep Mr. Stanton out OF ONCE
Well now now are we defend against these charges
or declarations brought up in regard to the 9TH tue st
transaction all along through How is the President
to defend himself against IT, but by calling Cen IG Gen
Thomas impeached here as consprator, 50 tnat ms
He Is brought here as witness What better evidence
can We have to contradict this conspiracy than that Oh
the President did not conspire man cannot consnre
by himself alone. How we to contradict without this
the 2Isi There interview the afternoon Of the
?ist wished TO show that when he received that order
but at tho subsequent meeting on the
sFn nS him & a rssed to Se a. the oce
the president gave directions and entered into no
conspTac And that m ~ on ,e oa Inc
had authority TO speak for the PRESIDENT seems 70
Ss o nSs s h sn ys SsS II 10 o MS after
action u ended not after the proof on tho other SIDE
ended as TO the conspiracy; but it. is long
and Hy nayg fEeden tbnk m gif'HS have
made m se Very poorly understood if what has
been fairly met or aemged to be met Sy inc
prove by Gen Thomas that no did not say what he DID
say to Mr. Bureigh e will be bold man to say that he
did not say it, however-not that they sant prove thst
he said what he did say to Mr. Karsenernot that they
shan't show any fact which Is competent TO be shown
Bat the proposition make Is legal proposition aud II
has not been met or touched by the Argument Ihe coun
70 Mr. Bureigh We are not force" by proving
what said between Thomas and the President We
Challenge IawbOok to be brought before thissenate
common law, Parliamentary law, statutory law, cons
meet no such proposition as that was ever held never
was held 90 to you5 own r Saaa tea aet me which act
complained Of and when he Is on trial ioT
show what he said to him In order to bis Justification
What thief could not defend himself by that means
showing conversation, the for the other and the
other for the one. after the act done Now,
lie carried sslo on aT by some little snapcatch of
word, that said there removal, and therefore
there never was legal removal OF Mr. Stanton There
was act of removal so far as the PRESIDENT Oh the
do It. far crmina responsible for it, 50 lar as ne
must be held amendment OF the OF
It. much though Stanton had gone out IN obedience
70 it, because, Mr. President, he Is the
Chief Executive. He has the army and
the navy. Counsel continued at considerable
length and Mr. Bingham replied that for the first time
In history 1t had been attempted on this trial to intro
duce In the defense of accused criminal his own
declarations made after the fact Al length the question
was put TO the Court whether Gen. Thomas should TESTIFY
TO what occurred between himself and the President on
the 2st OF February and - voted In the armsve ana
10 in negative, the nays being Messrs Cameron
Chandler CONFESS. Cragin Drake Harlan Howard, Sye,
Ramsey. Thaycr. So,
Gen. Thomas describes an interview between himself
and Secretary stanton, In which the social glass gurod
10 the amusement OF the Senate and the galleries AT
the conclusion of Gen. ThOuass testimony the Court ad
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