New-York tribune., 1868-04-03
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Mr. sTANBERY-That is not sufficient answer to to

MI ENAhIs-Nhat part OF the eleventh article do
Mr. BGTIERDWitS both the eishfyh and eleventh ar.
SON unmndf Of the high duties y hs of ce and Of lis
oath OF Office with intent unlawfuy to control the dis
vice and for the Department War" and So Ons
s 50 S Of s
The Assistant Secretary OF the Treasury as underand
Mr EvARTsE;T6e Managers propose to prove that
being vacancy OF Assistant Secretary
sns oSpp ssf he %
ti We object to its relevancy under the sth Article as
that in answer stated that there were 40 sug.
geston o. Ways and means or OF attempts EN- Oh ways sns
there being that in pursuance Of speech which he made
February 1865 at the City OF washington in the Dstet
Columbia. uniawfuy and in disregard Of the requle.
Office act The only allegations that article
p to the st S tsSa the ii
act by nnlawfully conttyipg means to prevent Edwn
ment, and proof is offered here substantiyey ot
efforts In November 1851 to appoint Edmund Cooper az
proof.
the evidence not competent the other is that tla
pleading is not sufficient II is said that the peadngs
Sw for we y S and % we To make %
TOO al III, the SH 0essDm Sn ,
attendants what act should be given evidence aud
the remedy for defendant 5 I'd n that case is 70 move sS
sPs for % n are GraSn as %Ss s
out specific acts in the nature Of specifications that
as &ssaSSs lea a IL g's1s s Rsf %
say discuss the question OF peadngs 1he only question:
in the mind OF my learned the other side that
they cluster everything about the 2lst OF Femaaly;
the elimination OF purpose formed long before as ID no
Of he sys ne en 70 get 4
Mr. stanton at any rate nsed the words yesterday as
ben there are ysrons things for Se President to DO I'D
must get control of the War Office But what good
ury Department who shonld be his servant hstaye de.
pendent upon his breath to answer the OF s
psrtment and therefore he begins early The appoint.
OF Mr. Cooper Assistant Secretary OF the Treasury
was therefore means the part Of the President tog
show The senate that Mr. McCGoch the secretary Of ha
Treasury, must have known that Cen Thomas was sp.
pointed Secretary of War ddiniD. The President TOOK
ment in order that he Cooper might recognize ~
have yet to learn that it was ever objected amy
tracing his have not right TO put IN every act
that he does, everything that comes out OF my NOUN
hct Ri' sufanaa y 'VUit sathory The question arose
1917 before one Of the best lawyers OF England oa
Elenborough. The objection there was precsciy lia
that the learned counsel here arises IL was aesa
that certain reasonable speeches had been MADE tLey
we're not set out in form but 1t claimed tat they
whether eG certain er SEs Cr speeches Could put
mony to show the animus with which tne nLss S az ,
under which this evidence was receivable it IL unNer.
sal rule evidence that what party says may be gwen
in evidence against himself 70 explain any part Of MS
conduct TO which 1t bears W. Ie'STsnSs SS 0a oecs s
that it il not evidence, but that is not PROOF ~ lhg
doubt that whatever proceeds from the mouth Of sau
may be given in evidence against hm TO snow Tue ths
own hands" II his declarations may be given al ty'
dence why not his acts would not tI9uDie the pre-
siding Oficer-I would have troubled the Scnarfh
upon this matter had not been that there may De on
acts, all clustering around this grand c9n,PFa@Sy @ mng @
propose to prove We are per.%eH % 10 Put rdrn ~ ~
evidence The question objected TO Is VINO rs Ealnn.
a. n T1t S al GS % SeS to nsp suppose
| Mr., STANBEGT--We asked what you expected 10
Mr. BUTLERST have replied to that. propose 10
prove that Edmund Cooper took possession "a a.
showing that the President gave commission nfssg
aud in violation OF the fenureotOihee aet, 70 Wns WY H.
cares that the making signing and sealing eOnns1siA,
ing issuing commission or letter p dn D ~ a
Senate shall be deemed high misdemeanor theIsVla
the signing If he did not issue it, and the isping Gedd
not sign is there being G & no % vacancy 10 the 9se.
ton, therefore, will be whether wewi be allowed TO 20
| into that matter
question as to who Edmund Cooper iS but we want id
know what it has to do with case, and what even ta
illegal appointment Of Edmund Cooper 10 tne Ql.t p
Assistant Secretary has to do with the We want ii
know what the appointment of Edmund Cooper for ~
purpose Of controlling The money Of the Treasury has ~
! do with the case understand the learned Manager to
say that the proof he intends to make in regard 20 Ed
gal appointment Of Mr. Cooper and that the President
Office act Have they given Ills notice TO come here
and defend any such delinquency as thati Has
| the House Of Representatives impeached the PTesH
dent for anything done In the removal OF Mr.;
Chandler, he removed, or IN the appointment Il
Mr. Cooper in his place. If he appOintedi Tie Mani
ayers select instance what they claim TO be vo.
atiOn Of the Constitution and Of the Tenureof Office act,
and in reference 10 temporary appointment Of an ocec
during the of the Senate That was the case Of
Gen Thomas, and Of Gen Thomas alone; TO that ot
dence because have notice OF IL and are here ready
TO meet it, but as TO any high crime or nsdemean@ n
reference the appointment of Mr. Cooper certainly ja
Managers have no authority TO make such charge.
,sd because authority. thev come here ony 10
make charges that have been found good by the Hoase
tmrc here The MANAGERS have no right to amend hes
articles; they go the House for that right hey
1pon the iSsSl act of the President in appointing r.
Cooper let them do and let us have time 20 answer ~
mOny in regard 10 the illegal appointment of hi.
Cooper it is matter not ehhargsd cha Ina LAat ~
not authorized charge; they have such deegaed
authority here What Is the ground nd on which ey s.ex
they expect prove that Mr. Cooper was put into tho
President in order control the disbursements VI money
in that Department Now II 1t were necessary 10 nave
of Gen Thomas as means used by hun 70 get control ~
the public moneys Of course would be equally neees
sary to have article founded on the same line OF con-
Mr. BiSGHAM said-Nir President: We consider the
country and England that every independent act on
the part Of the accused looking TO the sngeet nas1s &
than that We undertake to say on very 3 otbar Ie |
acts showing the purpose the accused
bring about the general results atn9ugn lnS nay
peyeTtheless. be given in evidence II person is
charged with having counterfeit notes IN his possessoh
he was in possession of other counterfeit notes Of
different denomination ana inc RUE OF inc DOCKS ~ 1s
eompetent TO prove the intent What the allegation m
the Article That the ,P President for the purpose o.
Mr. sTANBERY-What lawl