Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1868-04-04

blank forms Of The various kinds OF commis-
Sons issued by the state Department with me-
Prior TO the passage % the tenure-of once act
all commissions were issued IN the torn
\ during the pleasure OF the President for the
time being" Since the passage OF the tenure
of-ofii c. act the changed form has been used
'subject 20 The conditions prescribed by law
and no commission different from this has
ever been sent cut from the Department since.
by Mr.. Stanbery.-Am not aware that since
the pssssge Of the tenure-of-ofhce act any
ohange has been made IN the forms OF cOmmis-
slons issued 70 the heads OF departments; don't
,S nnoW whether different plate As used Tor COM
mtsions 10 heads Of departments or not. Have
teen chief clerk since July, 1861: have been in
Ihe ohice since July 4. ts34. During all thai
us, Sonln1lssions s have run, During TN pleas
MT Butler now offered a list prepared by
MI. stuart al the Instance OF the Secretary, OF
All s. oms.ss ,enoN,e from Office since the begin
+ Mr.. Stanb@ry.-Of all officarxp
Mr.. Butler-0f heads OF Departnents
Mr. b.uer tben read the nrst schedule.
marked A. Of removals dnring the session of
the Senate. IL consisted OF but one n..ne Fhat
Of Timothy Pickering, Secretary OF S,ata re-
moved May l3, $50. The l-t OF appoin tments
during the session OF the S-nate, was much
more lengthy, consisting Of various appoint
ments of Heads OF Departments, being actiue
and al isterIm appoIn tments.
The examination of witness WAS then con-
unued by Mr.. Butler. The appointment OF
acting SECRETARY Of State rad In the hst, was
made m Consequence Of the absence ofthe Sec
ment OF acting Secretary, except in case OF tenn
porary absence, AT least witness did not recall
any.
Mr. Butler-By whom was the letter Of au-
thorliy authorizing these temporary appoint
me- nts ss<uedl
Mr.. Evsrts said the letter Of authority must
b. produced.
Mr.. Butler.-Suppose there was none
MI ENarts.-Well, that IL for you 10 prove
Mr. Rutl'r repeated his question 10 witness.
The Chief Jpsttcp rec uested Mr Dutlcr "a re
duce his question 20 writing
Mr. Butl.r.-Whetber any Of these letters Of
authority came from the President the Sec
Mr.. Evarts.-we object TO any question which
seeks 20 prove anything IN reference t. author
ity, without the production of the document
Nr. Butler was endeavoring TO discover
~ht nee these letters Of authority came.
MI. Curis.-Do you mean who signed the
Mr.. Butler.-I mean who signed the letters
Mr.. Curtis.-We object.
Mr.. Builer.-Unless talk an hour the gen.
uemen are determined / shall not have an an
swer. My object is not TO ind who issued the
u tier. but by what authority 10 WAS issued
The Chief Justice asked IL the question did
not relate to the documents TO which the last
Mr.. Butler said he had not the documents,
but only q list of them.
The Chief Justice decided that there was
any Senator desired IL, he would submit the
point 70 the Sanste
Mr Butter then put the question.
Mr Curtis asked if the witness was 10 state
who signed the letter, or only from whom IL
came.
Mr.. Butler said be would attend TO the wit
ness.
The Chief Justice instructed the witness 10
answer only from whom the letter OF authority
came, and not who signed IT,
Wltness.-The authority came from the Pres
ident.
Mr.. Stsnbery.- Mr.. Chew, see in the list OF
removals during the session OF the Senate there
is but one, that Of Timothy Pickering, Secre-
tary OF State IN 1901. Did you ever know of
another case where member of the Cabinet
was asked TO resign and refused to do sol
Mr.. Butier.-Stop. i object TO thai ques-
ton.
Mr.. Stanbery Have YOU any knowledge Of
The circumstances which induced President
Adams TO remove Mr.. Pickering during the
session OF the Senatsi
Witness had no knowledge of the circum-
stances.
MI Butler.-Do you know tha, the Senate
was in session al that time.
Witness.-Did not
Mr.. Builer then introduced the correspon-
dence between Presid' Mt Adams and Mr.. Pick
eTing, relative TO the request &c Mr. Pickering
TO resign and the removal of the latter, given
by Chas. Francis Adams.
Mr.. Butler would now ask for the reading
OF the Executive journal Of May II, l~O0, AZ the
y nate would so allow. and he proposed 10
show by n that the President sent into the
Senste the name of a successor the very hour
he removed Mr.. Pickering.
Mr.. Stanbery.-D Did understand the Mans
ger 10 say the name of a successor sent in
the vely time the removal was made.
Mr.. Butler-l believe L was in time. II was
sent in short time before the removal. Laugh
teri
on motion of Senator Sherman, the Execu-
1--WE Journal Of the date named was ordered 10
Charles T.. Creecy was then recaIIed-Recoy-
nized letter as in the hand Whiting Of Andrew
johnson.
Mr.. Butler then told this witness he could
step down.
Mr. Butler then read from a portion OF the
answer Of the President 10 the artis sles Of I'M
peacbment, TO show that the President assumes
that be suspended Mr.. Stanton under his pow
er under the Constitution, and the Managers
now proposed TO prove that this assertion was
false, by MIR. Johnson own hand.
Mr Butler handed the letter 10 Mr.. stan
berry. W ho looked al IN, and said he no m
CONSISTENCY in n, much less falsehood.
Mr.. Butier.-The falsehood is not in the let
Ter. II IL IN the answer. Laughter.
Mr.. Butler then read from the letter of the
President TO Secretary McCulloch, Of August
- l-67, informing him that be had suspended
Mr.. Stanton from Office under the provisions
of the sth section of the tenure of office act
Mr.. Buter.-The Managers propose 10 con-
yiot the Presiden of falsehood, in asserting in
his answer that he did not suspend Mr.. Stan
ton under the provisions of the ter ure- f-ofice
act.wben. in his letter to Mr. Cullom. certified
by Mr Creecy, he distinctly says that he did
make the suspension under that act.
The Executive journal Of MAY ~. I-01 was
here produced and read by Mr.. Butler that a
message from John Adams, President, wac
ceiyed nominating John Marshall, of Virginia,
10 be Secretary Of State, in place OF Timothy
Pickering removed, and also a Inst of other
nominations.
Mr.. Stanbery asked Mr.. Butler TO STATE the
hour al which this message was received.
Mr.. Butler had not the hour.
Mr.. Stanbery.-The honorable Manager said
he would prove that IL was sent the very hour
of the removal.
Mr. Butler had said that he thought il would
appear so by the journal. IL was Mr.. Adams
duty 10 do so, ana he took IL for granted that he
had done so. [I.aughter.l
Charles L. Creecy again called, testified that
notification of Mr.. Stsnton's suspension was
sent TO the different accounting officers of the
Treasury for he War Departmental in pursuance
of the tenure of Office act.
Mr.. Butler here said that the Managers wonld
close their case in a few minutes with certain
exceptions, which he would state.
At 80 y. m, on motion of Senator Conness,
the Court took recess OF fifteen minutes.
HoUsE OF REPREsENTArIvEs.-T House
ass, m bled at ~ o'clock.
The Speaker laid before the House a commu-
nlcatlon faom the Secretary OF State, in rela-
ton 10 the rights Of naturaliz.d citzens abroad.
Referred 10 Committee on Foreign Affairs.
Mr. Broomall, (Pa-) from Committee on Ac-
counts, submitted q report recommending the
lighting of the hall of the House by electricity.
Ordered 10 be printed and recommitted
The Speaker laid before the House a sommu-
nication from the New England Conference of
the M. T.. Church, transmitting the resolutions
49, s...4x- ~.