New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-04-13

noped 70 the Presdent the two conversations had with
O. Then on the 2lst there was such conversation as
you testified tot A. Not IN reference 10 tnat ,rns
O. Was there any conversation at all as 10 Gen. Io"hs
end not obeying you on the 21sti A. None =,
O. Then when you told yesterday that you reporea
all that not sol Witness with emphasis)-An that
O. Now for another matter When were You examined
before the Committee A. What Committee nave
o. Yon were examined before the Committee Of the
House not the Managers and, in to this question:
Did you make any report Friday OF what had trans
the President and told HIM what had occurred he said,
We'll go along and administer the Department When
stated what had occurred with Mr. Stanton ne sald 10
me- You must take possessonG the Department, and
carry the business Did You not swear that before
the Committee A, say, as said before, that was
O. That is not the question The question is, Did you
O. Was il truei A. No: / never used the words to-
gether wish 10 make one statement in reference 10
that very thing called there hastily great many
had ranspired requested ON two occasions that
the Committee would let me wait and consider; tne
Committee refused, and would not let me, ana presseu
Mr. BUfLER-How is that A. When was called be-
fore that Committee on the evening OF the trial
Mr.. BUTLER dnteTupting)-Febr
witnessYes; went there after getting through that
trial. aud on two occasions requested the committee TO
postpone the examination until the next morning, untl
could 20 the matter but that was not allowed me-
O. Did you make any such Tequestf A. did, twice.
@ From whomi A. From those who were there the
SSeSer M stevens was Ts' sT H he was there portion
OF the time but do not know whether he was there at
O. DO yOu ten the Senate your oath that you re-
quested the Committee 20 give you TIME 10 answer
question, and that the Committee refusedf A. re
Questcd that the examination might be deferred until the
morning, when could have an opportunity TO go
over the matter in my mind that was not granted
there was not a refusal made. but | pressed with
questions then there is another matter that want to
things COMPOUNDED In itn reference 10 the date
OF my appointment AdjutanGeneral and the date Of
my appointment as Secretary Of War nd interim; sup
posed the Committee asking In reference to the first
and that IL the those two things got ml1ed up
read IL over; found this mistake and found That some
Of II was not English thought something was taken
down. too, that did say; the Committee would not
permit me 10 correct the manuscript but put the cor
recton nj the bottom, and suppose II ON that paper
Mr.. BUTLER.Wc viii come to that Have you got
through with your statement
Mr. BUTIER-yery well did You not come and ask TO
see your testimony rs IL was taken down by the commit
tee a; went to the clerk and Jaw him =, g., -. ,.,,
q. Did he give YOU the report which hold IN my h9ndj
day he handed it to me, and he went wlce think,
member OF the Committed do not know who
decent English and wanted TO know whether could
not correct the manuscript.
Q. And he reported You that yOu might make your
Q. Did Won read Tie whole testimony overt \. think
| dd; ! am not certain.
O DO You know that you did h No, do not know
O. what aid Won come for A. camo 10 correct this
first portion Of 1t particularly that was the reason went
there. 49,
no @ Did y0n want to correct any 0'H'' i0"on ~ A.
O. Ard the first part only referred to mistake 10
intantG General and Secretary Of War Cd interim 4.
had rcf,rc 10 notification given "a ne. ~
O. By the President TO Secretary OF War Adntant
General \. That was mixed ny. stated that re-,
ceived that notification from Col Moore Col Moore dii
~ hut Inc did not give me notification
that would probably be appointed secretary OF Mt
O. Aud u was that that you wished to colecti A. Ihat
the principal correction. 81.
O. Yu did rot wish to correct anything else A. II
anything else was wrong did. wished 10 correct any
error, whatever they might nc.
q. You then went over yong testimony aud corrected
such portions rs you pleascdi A. had the prlNos to
O. And You wrote ont here on portions Of two sheets
yor corectionsg Is this your hand wrngi A. Yes Sir
it is MY own handwriting. ,..--.,.
e & And yS%q s. sned' Lorenzo Thomas A'''H'G'n
O. Now, having read over your testimony did you
ported rs saying That tie President ordered you 20 20
forthwith aud take possession AID administer TIE Office
O. You swear that that was not true A. have said
q Why didn't you couccti 10 a. 1 have thought the
Ec-dlrect examination by Mr. sTANBERY:
q ind in the report OF your testimony given yester
and vursf M the second interview on the 2lst " Fcbru.
Wines stated to the President that had delivered
Mr. sTANBERY-What answcTT
Witness-Thc answer "Do you wish me to yacate at
once, viii you give me time TO take away my private
property ." ana that answered, AT your pleasure"
then stated that after delivering copy OF the letter TO
him he said - do not know whether VIII obey your IN
strcuOns or resist them" Tins mentioned to the Pre-
fidcnt Ills answer Was, Very Wen; 80 on ana take
Mr.. srANEBEY- the President say that A. Yes,
Mr. BUTLER-Thenyou mean 10 say, in answer to Mr..
simbcry that you got it all right and that in answer to
you got IL All wrong A. Yes; IN reference to your
Mr BTr'TILER-That is all.
EXAMINATION OF LGEUT-GEN. SIEHNtS.
Lieut.. Gen. W. +. Sherman who appeared ia the un.
dress uniform Of his rank, was next sworn and examined
20 Were You IN Washington last wintorl A. | was.
q What time did you arrive heIel A. About the Hh OF
O. How long did you remain here \. Two months
until the sd or 4th Of February.
q. On what business did you come heref A. came as
a member OF the Indian Peace Commission.
O. Had you any other business here 40 that time A.
was assigned 10 board Of officers, organized under
law OF Congress- " make articles of and regula-
O. What date was that assignment A. I can procure
the order which will be perfect evidence as to the dalo
about the middle OF December that the order was issued
O. Then you had double dutyl A. had double
duty for a few days.
O. During that lime from the 4,h of December to the
81 or ith Of February had You several interviews with
8 Did Won Zee him alone-when there were persons
present but the President and yourself a; Yes.
O. Did you him also In company with Gen. Grant
A. / saw him in company with Gen Grant once, and i
c. Had you several interviews with him in reference to
the case Of Mr. Stanton a. had
MIR BINGHAM-We desire without delay respectfully
10 submit our objections 10 this, declining, however TO
yne IT. Ne submit our objection, believing 1t duty,
as Representatives Of the House, to DO So
.Ir. STANBERY-ObjecIion 10 WHAT -, -.
Mr. BINGHAM-To the declarations OF the President
Touching any matter involved in this Issue not made at
tho time wlen we have called them out ourselves. They
are not competent evidence.
Mr. sTANBERY-AllOw me 20 como to some question
that we can start upon. This merely Introductory.
You will soon the object Of the examination OF Gen
Mr. EINGU AMI understand the object TO be 20 prove
his conversation with the President.
Tho CIIIEFJUsTlCE-No question OF that kihd has
been asked yet. 80
Mr. BINGHAM-We understand IT, 80 81,
Mr. STANBEHY-We Will come 10 that point 10 the
vtness-Whe YOU were here did the President ASA you
n % roud In e charge Of the Office OF the Department