New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-03-30
CpFAT BRITAIN.

MIR. GLADSTONE DECLARES FOR FllI. ADOLF
TION on THE STATE CHURCH.
The debate on Irish affairs was resumed on
Mr.. " II Gladstone. in a maiden speech which was
,b uonse Ynressed his conviction that tho crcumstan
ees of Ireland called for legislation O Doidtr ana more
ment II was impos ble that Fcnianism could flourish
the soil the country was not congemal 10 H grown.
IT, then Fenianisn arose from deeseated discohten AZ
evil bill 20 give The tenant class liberal compensation
would he believed, removr much dissatisfaction, while
lie dseudoWme of TIE Established Church would 20
far to restore general tranquility ana prosperity Inc
state Church was insult 10 every Catholic IN Ireland
badge ascendancy, cause OF weakness To Protestant
ism and a discredt To the whole empire =, .., .-..
Nh Gladstone who rose just before ~ Sloh tG wa
loudly cheered by the Opposition pointed ont mat NJ
mcrou- as had been The blots mt IN the Ministerial pro
filled 10 realize the grave fact that We had reached CT
in the Irish question ireland had a account VII" I'M
opinion ~ every enlightened nation IN lhe NGru
much We had done We had nol dom snogg, 10 IN
ui % Sir otrd Xorthcotc speech Tor the impartial
ity Of The Executive Government, 10 which no trusted
Was not sufficient 10 rnunterbaante Tue injurious 'net
~ nnhIst laws Time. his second palliative, had
Non ~ YiTcd some centuries and Of the third paia-
tiy-iustice- he remarked that sr stnnords idea VI
NAT Lord Mayos account The state Of Ireland ON
the whole, accurate be argued tat ths "
material progress with widespread dsconent was PROOF
that usdsied necessity sim sleu anu ny ehoto
ING The gravity of the political crisis he pointed To the
depletion OF Ireland by emigration the repeated snsben
sion of the haheas corpus ana ne INVASION on lnsshn W
Zen
adequacy Of the Government poiiy 10 W., f ~ ~,
the ease under six heads. VIZ Parliamentary reform, ue
Repeal OF the Ecclesiastical Titles Act Hahways Lduch
nn and md the Church. Jhe fret three he dismissed
very briefly and on the question 81 university euuehuh
auce He defended the action Of Lord hi-s"s GnNtfi-
nont in this subject aud ~ discussing iDrd nayVs
Tn,t had never voluntarily undertaken the support oi
denmnational universities aud schools but on the con.
al late wears IL hnd been sodulousy cndeaN Orng 10
gt fd Of an votes Of purely donomnaiona character
Mr Dsracli must know well as any one that such
mere idea in fact which reality was dead before ~
had lived and in The absence oil any lhQinldupn AZ TO
~ inws az The Roman Catholic Bishops ~ might De de-
scrbed as another leap IN the DARK bhl was lhpos
sibc to give final opinion on ,,o ,lyrr,ly question
unf Inc view of Parliament on the Irish turch was as
certaucd for n sweeping policy were adopted u Wouid
be necessary consider how faI Iiny ,o1se .onn oc
made available on the land question Mr. Gladstone as
serted thai the real grievance Of the ll people had bc
ACKNOWLEDGED by the Devon commission, when nau
recommended a measure Of compensation Tor improve
ments. lust land Lave he lad down 10 De one undet
which. In the absence OF any 'o, a w. w. ~ tnt
.n,hu o ~ ~ s1,h n sccnfity than 1 any measure
for nxifv OF tenure. Commenting on MI Bnshts plan,
ne pointed ont difficulties To ne suggested that u
crtv the experiment could be tned there Passing TO
mo Church question. Mi Gladstone congratulated the
Wopsr on The rapid advance public opinion shown.
erhaus more f6rcbly 10 the defense OF the Curch than
In the attack. After cOhdcmning senu"urS loru Mayo
mini AT an increase IN the RgH DOnUn ana subsidy 10
tbe Roman Catholics from the Consolidated Fund.- and
Tdiculng the Government pleas f0 dcaN ne anhouneeu
amid loud cheers from the Opposition, his opinion That
gous equality must DE established dhcut though thc
oncrati0n might he hut he decidedly condemned the
prucipe of bringing UP other denominations To Tie level
Of The Church by grants from the Consolidated Fund,
and The plan for redividng her revenues among the
cIc-gy of different denominations Those plans had Ions
passed the point Of practical Poss3iiy On the whole
he agreed very much with Mr. BnShts mole OF Erecting
his great operation. He recommended Mr. Maguire to
withdraw his motion, but he intimated thai unless Mr.
Disrae speech differed altogether from me seechesol
hls coea CUES 1t would be the duty Of the Opposition to
ask decided opinion from the House on TINS question
and II must not be mere empty ncoataueH pt mus
lie attended ny some practical step when Wonld siO"
the Irish people that Parliament was now M earnest
Mr. Dsrael who also loudly chrered, commenced
by ironically bewailing the unhappy mle when made
the commencement Of his ministerial career coincident
with the impcrons necessity OF Immediately setting an
account centuries old Examining the elements OF
The Irish crisis stated by Mr. Gladstone he showed
that all Of them had existed While he was M Once ana
that attempt had been made 20 deal with then Com
eheng T nro sU IN detail the object Of the pro
posed charter extend 10 the Irish Renan Catholics
The opportunity they had long desired OF giving their
chIldl the benefits Of higher education under the IN
nucuce their priesthood, ana tue sarcasm or MT
Ism was absurd as he showed by recapitulauon Of
tie facts relating 10 the Queens College, which nj.
vndicated next the land policy OF the Govern
Inent promising that IN this ana All other points the GOV
perfect but which practical and practicable. They
had picked al those points on which there was gen
had referred 20 Commission those points only when
we're ripe for decision, and be characterized the as
ssrijon thai the object Of the Commission delay as
the lees and refuse Of factions nsinuaton Passing 10
the Church question, and admitting hatihe ish chufen
was NOT In s position he should wish ~ see her having
i'm her communion the majority Of the people, Mr.. DIS
rael discussed and defended the principle Oh eccestl
cal endowments He denied that the spirit OF the age
was opposed 10 eDdOvments. as had been lalu
down ny Mr.. Bright, who, with me aid OF me
philosophers, had apparently converted Mr.. CLAD.
stone to opinion. He warned the House that "
Was not the comparatively limited issue of the lrish
Church IL was the principle OF ecclesiastical endowmes,
an entire revolution in the national habit aud character
which was at stake. Drawing from tho Ministerial
benches loud aud continuous cheering he denied the
moral competence Of the House TO decide that Issue
without an appeal 70 the country. IL was question
which the country alone conld decide. For thirty years
the Liberal party had been IN power PUT what haa
revoutioni This Parliament, he held, ought not
10 decide IL It ought 90 DO reserved for the new
"a enlarged constituencies. Being personally In
favor OF ecclesiastical end0wments, lie strongly Cd
ected 70 the destruction Of the Irish Church Inc
companied would be great detriment to Ireland where