The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-02-15

the witness he must answer we questions more e.
plcisly which called out tuss percspsiois hiss
remote section Of the room
Witness, resuming St James church 10 said to be
the finest church edincs State bsilt after the
old Norman style. and the windows are painted; ~
Iyng's invitation 20 preach was from naivaas sns
nom oncia aud NINE Was Official; he could ueaouosssy
have prohibited Mr. Tyng's preaching ON INA. oay
y be had % chosen. Q 10 there any fsSu-
lation In the Methodist Episcopal Church prohioi.
ing one preacher infringing the domain Of AnotherI
A. This church expects that every man VIII nisno 70
nn own busness -tlaughier-Rev John hcOnn,oO.
had been N the habit tor time Of ofcisng during
Inc morning service when be was able ana DIS Amny
attended the church; he identified letter, signed joan
The letter In question: which was stated 10 BE- from
hsv M McClintock 10 Bishop Odenheimer on the SUD-
ming me pulpit o. b. A 81 h
matter Of its admissbllity, which terminated oy me
court on reading II rejecting il III -
Witness resuming-AE Tying went through more o.
the Episcopal fos he used none Of the forms OF ab-
OF Or stuobs Mr. Tying said that the canon referred 70
BY the former differently interpreted. Mr. Tying
gave the history Of the canon. and his interpretation
WAS that the canon desgned TO prevent the nus'
lon Of Unauthorized or unacceptable ministers into
Protestant Episcopal churches in other words that u
and not elsewhere.
Rev DR. Muhlsnberg now took tbs witnsss stand.
He has been minister OF the Protestant Episcopal
clergy a. regards ociaung In other coDgreg atoms
and churchesf lengthy and possibly 10 the initiaeda
very learned discussion between the opposing coun
Sci on the proprety or Otherwise OF allowing this question
TO be answered At the close OF the argument the court
took the matter under consideration As many OF the
crowd Of spectators took their lunch, having come ev
IDENTIFY beforehand prepared 10 spend the day,
took their leave. tired with the tedousness Of the
oo ana no.nns r - uo
court announced Its decision that the question could be
answered and they could give i such weight and arec'
ton as they saw it, but would be peremptory in excud
Ing evidence looking interpretation Of the canon
The question was repeated and witness answered that
ministers oacats in nom Episcopal churches and
had done 90 himself without Ecclesiastical censure; ho
knew Of many instances when getting the express per-
mission required In such cases not sought obtain
ing the permission Of rsctos and gong through with
the full form Of prayer required In the canons these
case being mainly influenced by courtesy and the
latter acting according 10 their judgment and the
op mo,e sns Of . aDs Church
TO use - much or as little Of the form Of prayer
IS they please in Episcopal churches they not I'M
frequently comply with the forms OF those churches at
least such had been his custom.
Cross examined by Nr. Nash-It was, in his opinion,
incumbent on Episcopal clergyman preaching be-
fore Episcopal congregation the whole morning
prayer In the morning service but not at night this
was canonIeai ooigation; this canon, in bis view,
Rev. Dr. Newton next examined. He had been
an Episcopal clergyman Tor thirty years. most Of this
time in Philadelphia; in Psnnsylvania they were ac-
customed to preach wherever there opening,
no man contradcting; he had preached iroQently In
once at funeral service Il S. mary church his Gus
tom had been to ask consent Of rectors any
one to preach had never mad mis- Own consent at
stated services he considered that Episcopal minister
was bound to use the formal service but ON special
occasions he could use his Judgment.
Cross-examHed by Mr. kash.-The right to preach has
something to do with invitation TO preach and the
source whence 1t emAnates Q Are you the d. Newton
the members of the court to read carefully and PRAYER
fuliyf A. did not see the sermon that was sent or
Jay Cookies letter Are you the author q the dscla
ration published in the Episcopdhdn regarding this
casei A. No, sir but one OF the signers by in
Pennsylvania mean the clergymen generally; never
preached against protest, for have never had my
preaching protested against all my thirty years
have never known otherwise than unanmity Of sent-
ment among the clergy as to the Of the
men; do recognize those who differ with me In this
matter. but they have never crossed the path Of my
At three P. NJ the court took recess for one hour
Rev. DR. Cannsld was the nrst witness called on tho
reassembing OF the court He had been minister Of
the Episcopal church since 1914, and for the last
eighteen years has of1ciatcd in New York; he had
received the consent Of any whom preaching
IN other churches his own custom was TO follow his
own congregation wherever he could find them; within
the scope OF his ministerial experience has been the
custom under special circumstances to USE what pray
ers and other forms the necessss Of the casa may
quire.
consider his duty TO follow his parishiopers TO their
several summer resorts he never ociaed within the
parocha cure Of another clergy man agans. his protest
Dr. Heman Dyer testified that he had been Epsco.
minister in the Church Ascension in this city and
knowledge Society, and one Of the secretaries o the
American Church Missionary society; he had never
psroch,a cures being asked for or expected What il
the habit Of clergymsn OF the Episcopal Church as to
celebrahng services ON special oecasonsf A. Bishop
Mr. Nash-Nsvsr mind Bishop 0ndsrdonk he Is
The Presdent-Ths witness will state such facts as hs
witness rssum,ng- Bishop ondsrdonk- (laughtsr)
The President-We don't want anything about Bishop
Mr.. Tracsy-Let the witness tell his facts bis own
Witness rssuming-Bishop ondsrdonk-(boisterous
laughter which the Court had some difficulty In sup
pressing.)
The Prssident-we don't wish to know anything
about Bishop Onderdonk.
witness resumlng-The custom has been to oct on
Individual judgment.
@ Then you have charge now, suppose, OF the Church
at large as your psrochial curef A. Only in spots
strucon upon The thirty nine articles upon the Church
Mr.. Tracy objected to the question.
Mr.. Nash-l waive II.
Mr. Fuerson-Do you waive the thirty. nino ar.lcssf
Qaughtor)
Rev DR.. stephen Dryng was the next wltness He
has been an Episcopal minister years. and in
vermont. New Hampshire, Nsw york. ohio. Iiliuos
Kentucky, Virginia Maryland, South Carolina Pennsy
and the District Of Columbia; within the Geld and
time OF his observation he had heard OF consent
being required applied for by Episcopal minister
TO preach within the limits Of another parochsl cure
1t has always been the custom 70 the extent OF bis OBJ
servation for Minister'S In the line Of Ministerial duty
to follow their Pensioners wherever they went uncha
snged and free; as TO making use Of less than the
prescribed forms OF prayers before sermons under
special circumstances II tho custom OF ciergymen to
act a. the nature OF the circumstances dictated Do
you know Of any exception A. The only exceptions
know Of Is that Of very distinguished clergyman Of
the New York diocese, whose religious enthusiasm for
forms in the absence Of books 10 read the responses
from read his part In voice and the responses
In another daughter prolonged and difficult 10
reslrain.)
Crossexsmned-Q We're you present at the time
referred tor A. NO, sir; have the story from some
who present; this was on IN irregular OCCASION
Ar. Eash-Another question In ths connection.
witness-As many as you please you are such an
agreeable gentlemen. But please remember am . be-
wildered old clergyman. (Laughtcr)
Mr.. Nash-The question To- do you not think any as