The New York herald., 1868-02-20
ever held in Egypt Referred 70 IN. commi,,ss on

ever. ever held in Egypt Referred 70 I'll. Committee on
THE ARMY APPROPRIATIONS mn.
| me House then, at quarter before two went into
Committss OF the Whole the state or the Union Mr.
Masnourne OF Wis., 10 the chair on the Army Appro-
The bill appropriaes in the aggregate s3s o,2 oss
Inc following are 1 the principal appropriations Of
tne army $l5 900 600 commutation OF oiicers' sub
sstsnee, 81 4ls; Medical and Hospital Department
$500 000 Quarermasters Department regular supplies
expenses, $2,0 900; transportation OF the army
oOO quarters for officers and troops 900 900
ordnance service $4,000; arsenal and army a. Rock
500, 900 '''''''' ''p''' y '0'''ncA'0AS'
Mr. woop. (rep) OF N. r, inquired whether General
| Grants idea OF economy was that the army should
need $33 600 900 year in time Of profound peace
Mr. BLAINE, rep) OF Me replied that the question OF
| very soon, adding that there never had been time
| when such relatively small sum was required for the
| army as under tho administration OF General Grant
The bill appropriated less than half million per reg
ment whereas the old army cost million or more per
regiment. the million being IN gold and the halt miilo
Mr. WooD asked whether ever before, IN time OF
profound peace. the army had cost thirty millions Of
Mr. BLAINE replied that before the war twenty Ave
millions OF dollars had been asked for army of nno
| teen regiments while nJw only thirty millions
was asked for an army OF sixty regiments
Mr. wooD passed the point that ne was righ. IN say.
ing that this was the largest ever asked for the
Mr.. BLAINE SAID Il was but under democratic admin
sraton regiment cost more than double Ia gold what
| administration
Mr. PYLr (repl OF No.. made the point of order that
sne proviso attached 10 the bill for the OF the army
should not DO attached to provision for the reduction
Mr. BLAINE consented tha. the proviso should be
stricken out at that point and then he be In.
| serted at the end OF the bill
The provlso, as modified, is as follows
Provided that expenditure OF the money herein appro
pratcd shall be limited and controlled by the following
missI shall be issued in any except
70 ry t. sa s
provision shall not be construed deprive any officer
Of vacancies among his superiors in rank.
Mr.. PYLE made tho point order that This was nde
pendent legislation, and therefore not in order IN ap
the CHAIRMAN overrucd tho point OF order.
| :, the provlso gave rise to considerable discussion,
ing II ON the ground OF Its iavori'ism to West Point
cadets, and Mr. scienck opposing 1t as being an at
winch he considered entirely wrong.
Mr. BLAINE asked Mr.. Schenck whether he was in
until ma,,ers we're seated which did not seem very
| likely ~ be settled Tor year or two.
| Mr. SCHascK 6eiieved tnai there general dis
position, as soon as he condition of country would
admit OF H. ~ rvs)rt system
army out What no oojoc.od to was piece reform
winch ho reerrcd 10 anu winch Id render something
else necessary hareat 10 DO turned mo appropra
tiou bl lhe question should be left to tho Apopra
| ton COMMITTEE
Debate closed upon the amendment. and on o
vote BY telies The am ndment agreed ,oo4 to 43
Mr. WOOD referring 10 tue previous diaogue between
himself aad Mr.. Blame said he found tual tho aggre
gate amount OF tne Army Appropriation b the year
enung June 80 1891 was ON $40 4S9 l33 against
$Ss o0O ooo appropriated TINS O. ho Suggested
,hat although tns bill provided ostensiby tor Sky
| regiments none Ot them were nea iy iu
admitted tha, they II. having be n
with tue exception Of tic airy regiments reduced 10
the minnum Uy order o. General Gralt.
| Mr. WovD inquired what minimum was
Mr. bLAiNs repiied that h. minimum nfty men
TO company, which would make tue az srega.e
| two Thousand men.
Mr.. Wu,D attention to the fact that the bill ap
propraed over $33.0OO QUO Tor an army Of iorty.~o
hr. PYLE asked Mr. Blame whether the proviso ch
he had offered favored by General Grant, $.
Ing that did Ird with Gene views IS
| sabn,itscd the LoMnaL.ao Mni,ary Auai.s
MT BLAINE iepli that he had TINS morning at twelve
O'clock submitted 10 General Gran. the provlso The
prn, ed bl Dut tnat he obJected " CT ying
| ber OF regiments IL which the army sha reduced
and Balnej nad then and written,
cofdnS 70 Genera. 0rsn,'s dc.aon the proviso winch
| conini uad adop ed IL was the exactly,
ltsraiy. t.n.na ht1atm, Il pun e. Was
gentleman Pyel satisfied, did he ~ish
qu -st.on u veraclsy with him ON that statement:
| Mr. PyLs SAID no did not
| Mr.. BLAINE remarked, in addition that similar pro
| visO nd p,ed by >enats, with advice
and concurrence of General Grant lu reply couple
Of questions by Mr. Rum, Mr. Blaine ,sracter zs,
bad ssts gentlemen Missouri ana Illuoi.
w b. sbtrudng General Grants name a tue time.
though Inc House could not legisa,e au army b with
Out aAsing wnsther General Grant favor OF IL.
~ Loan repl VI lli. TOOK cxcep i,as to an In
sinuat,"a made " nr sains .. to jealousy Of wss
| whenever ne met en-, and when he trek nj
tempted 10 be passed or the house,
/
ASKING gentleman ~ 20 IBIS censor dc had pre-
JUDGE West rolns but protested nei,ner
wes. Poni, Easl POINT South Point, Nor,h
Point Naue Point, sn0uld Introduce trick less
laticn He ~ss As good friend ~ Gsnesa. Grant had
g0t and he wantsu the courers OF West Point quit
Dsnlatng against him that hs vas attacking General
| Grant
tricks IN egisaiion, thsu,hs proviso which
Diii originally nal reported by the
App,.s".%S1'. % ",.o ana vas s.v. dree. explicit d,as
| i.iinon had gone Oh IN good deal OF temper about
| something
word 'temper Laughter,
Mr. BAiss repea.ed the words - goo. deaf Of ten.
per-" aud denied lasins charged Mr. Logan with jeaI
| vusy OF Yves. ro,nk hs nad simply said ma wnis ns
had prejudice asaIns, West Poin he nad jealousy
of IT, Ine gentleman could not, hs uisd VITA ever
so much temper 80. hlm into > qaarrs. .Horo sir
Logan xissed h:s hand 10 Mr. Blame amid much
Mr. BUTLER, nep) Of Mass, as one member OF the
Comm.t,se ON Appropriations, said he did uot wish ,t
bs made responsbie for !ue provso for !. had never
| boen Comm lnicated TO him. He wished 10 wash h.
nands of and 10 say that the country has faiien
times xhen sle army was to DO cut up cut iow q
the request the direction any the
| United States Tie army had been put IN ,hs hands
Of the representatives OF the poop.s and The man
who ought influence these representatives as to The
strength Of the army the General Of Army The
cvi. and military p,wers saoud 30 Kept distinct Ne
| OF bad iailn amy Such precsdsnt oos
which IN tie futurs mig.t prove ata 10 ts Dertss of
country Inc fathers Of the republic had been care
President Ct Ds United states 70 give advice VI nstuc
| tons 10 Congress-
Mr B,Aiss ea pressed the hope that IL weuid
derogaory character OF tue nrst officer
| of lhe army " recommend reduction OF the miisary
| force.
Mr. BUTLER asked where In the constitution any right
| OF the General OF Army could be found to
| mend any tnug W ouktsssY
Mr. BLAME said he speak ing about the cousti-
| tuition AZ the General recommending increase
of military force there might DO some around for Jeai
ousy aud ssnsi veness but ~nen he recommended us
| reduction he could cause tor aarm
NJ. Pyx said, reference To Mr. Bia'ues remarks IN
regard to bad lasts using Grants the
SION ,he violation OF good taste had been tue
| part OF tue gentleman tMr. Bianel nimseif
| Mr. BrTLsR iBvL,d sr Pyle TO STATE exactly what
General Grant did 70 tho Compltlee Mii.
| tafy Anaus.
Mr. ryLE declined to do so.
Fina ly tins discussion closed. and the commit tee
| proce.dsd with the o,her portions Of the bill Tue
Items approprang $3.50 600 Tor an arsenal aad armory
a, Rock iaud gave rise 10 considerable dsson II
was agreed To.