New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-01-08

such sales, and OF the parties to whom sold
Mr.. SCOFlELD moved an amendment providing that
the proceeds Of the sales shall be paid into tie Treasury
Mr.. WAsHBURNE Of Illinois expressed desire to
have information as TO the number and names, prices
&c, OF irOnclads belonging to the Navy, saying that
there had been the groest abuses in the whole business
public auction, the Board fixing their minimum price
He thought that course necessary to protect the Govern
Mr. PIKE stated that this bill applied to 81 ironclad
vessels that were now laid up OF these there were at
League Island 81, New-Orleans Mound City 8, Wash
ington Boston 4, NewYOrk San Francisco O. Phila-
Mr. MAYNARD inquired as to who we're expected to
Mr. PIKE said It manifest that to the inter
est OF the GOVERNMENT to dispose OF these vessels bet
ter class could be produced in of necessity for In adj
dion to them there were number Of them on me STOCKS
which could be completed In very short time Last
year there had been apprehensons Of difficulty between
France and Prussia and France had Immediately re-
sized iron-cads. Now some of the smaller powers in
Europe and south America were in trouble or In appre
tensions of trouble and wished purchase some OF the
smaller vessels and applications for that purpose had
Mr.. MAYNARD inquired whether, in the opinion of the
Naval Committee 1t was wise policy for the Govern
natons AS to the Dunderbcrg which had been sold TO
France that vessel had proved to Of the stanch
est and bestsang vessels built and she had gone
TO weaken the American navy and 10 strengthen that Of
powerful maritime rival. lie submitted whether that
kind of policy could be afforded II those ir0ncads were
TO be kept il would be better to have them broken up
and their material sold.
Mr.. PIKE reminded Mr. Maynard that the Dunderberg
had never constituted part of the navy.
Mr.. MAYNARD said lac was very well aware OF that
Mr.. SPALDING inquired whether the measure was
recommended by the Navy Department.
Mr.. WOOD declared himself in favor Of the measure.
1t was but carrying ont policy which the country de-
ment of the Government He was not frightened by the
conscientious presented by the gentleman from Tennes.
back TO the plain old republican economical basis
would apply to the disposal Of those shps the %' rule lie
which q merchant would apply in similar case.
He would put them in the market TO general competition,
and Wuu a. of pg rpl
any Of them to bid for them, and let the proceeds DO
paid into the Treasury OF the United States.
He yielded to Mr.. KERR, who proposed to offer an
auction and for not less than their appais value after
such advertisement as the Secretary OF the Navy shall
Mr.. PIKE declined to let the amendment be offered.
Mr. MAYNARD said that those vessels part OF the
navy and bore the and marks Of honorable
closely with many Of the best actions of the navy and
he did not feel disposed them taken from under
over them IL will be unjust to the brave men who
have fought on their decks. and TO those who have
honor OF the nation that proposed sell order
to put money in the Treasury If the original Monitor
York orr. Wood think it economy put her INTO the
market to see how much other nations would bid for that
wonderful momento OF onr naval renownl II his ideas
OF economy were IN that direction then the old Constt
ton and the Macedonian should be put into the market
lie submitted that there were some things when men
AMI nations could not afford to sell for money and one OF
IN things honor This was an inJudicous attempt
Mr. WOOD, referring 10 Mr. Maynards expression as
those vessels being Scared asked whether he did not
link the taxpayers had been pretty well Scared and
whether he was not aware that very few OF the
vessels proposed TO be sold had been in any engagement
Mr.. MAYNARD replied That no was very wen aware
that the had been Scared and asoavare
that the marks of treason were on the face OF the nation
elsewhere than on the decks ana SIDES Oh those arn0Icd
vessels but he not aware that very few OF those
vessels had been engaged in the actual defense OF the
MIR PIKE said he did not propose to make inventory
Of the National goods and dispose OF thom as house
clearing operation 10 the nations Oh EUROPE nc Hn no
idea Of dposing OF the navy of the United States None
OF the vessels proposed to be sold were worthy the a''en
ton OF the frstclass powers There was n0ne on the
list which either England or France would buy Oi tho
vessels proposed TO be sold 81 had never been In the
service aud consequently The eloquent remarks OF tho
gentleman from Tennessee did not apply 10 them at all
Mr. WOOD inquired how It was proposed 10 prevent
these vessels getting into possession Of European Gov
Mr. PIKE replied that he had no objection TO their get
ting into European navics but he had not tho slightest
idea that England or France would purchase one OF them
Mr. MAYNARD inquired whether 1t Vas proposed TO
sell guns with the yesselsf
Mr. PIKE replied that nothing but the vessels wero TO
Mr. LAWRENCE Ohio proposed to oGor an amend
that sales should be made to any nation that
Mr. PIE declined to admit the amendment.
Mr. MUNGEN desired 10 have It's consideration post
Mr. PIKE declined to admit the motion, and insisted
Tho vote was taken, and tho Joint resolution was
passed, Yeas, 81; Nays. %.
REGULAR BUSINESS DISPOSED or
The proceeded TO the business on the Speakers
tobie and disposed thereof az follows:
H. X Thatcher TO accept a decoration from King Of
The senate iont resolution limiting contracts for sta
tionery and other supplies for the Executive Department
10 one year Referred to the Committee on Appopria
The Senate Joint resolution directing the Secretary Of
'ail 10 be- erected in The District Of Columbia Passed
sMITHsoSIAS INSTITUTE
essrs Garfield Of OHIO Poland Of Vermont aud pruyn
Of HewYork, Regents Of the Smithsonian Institute Tor
The senate joint resolution for the appointment OF 10
Wolsey % Of Cincinnati, W b. Asior OF NewYofk Mr. Nc
Lean Of NewJcrsey, and Peter Parker OF Washington
GETTING THE RECORD
Mr.. VAN WICK, rising to question OF privilege stated
that his name appeared on re Journal ana IN me 62oe
president lie had been present when the vote was
taken If he had been lac would have voted In the air
native. - -
Mr. sCIENCK, from the Committee on Ways and Means
reported bill prevent frauds Ia the collection OF taxes
on distilled spirits He said that was IN advance OF the
laws and reported now out Of the conviction
that this was point on %sch acon T ro
ydes from and after It's passage, distilled spirits
in bond shall be withdrawn or removed from any ware
house for the purpose Of transportation rehabilitation
change OF package expectation or for any
shall be duly paid collector Of the proper district
aud repeats all acts and parts OF acts inconsistent with
advocacy of the bill He said the bill virtually docs away
with the bonded warehouse SYSTEM tho effect OF II VIII
be- In the first place. TO release egtimatey II ever at all
the distilled spirits In the bonded warehouses OF the
United states We have ascertaned that there are about
barrels amounting TO 40 100000 gallons thus locked
up On this 2OO0O0oO gallons the legitimate tax would
he stOOOOOOO There therefore, 10000 900 in taxes
waiting TO be paid, which may or may not ever
he paid, depending on the removal OF
ibis whisky from these bonded warehouses
The effect OF the bill will be that the bonded warehouse
system will run itself out, 70 familiar illustration,
GO dryU on the removal OF these successive lots OF
whisky, and the payment of the taxes on them Then
there Is another class OF warehouses; warehouse AT
the distery whisky hereafter made and subject TO
taxation be removed until the tax paid so nat viz
tually there will remain no warehouses at the dsery,
and those only containing liquor on which tax VIII be