The Evansville journal. [volume] (Evansville, Ind.) 1866-1870, 1868-04-14

ruled 10 10 the warrant and AFFIDAVIT w re
aoI - oie. AZ. On taking the yeas ana
nays his ruling was sustained b "a 10 ".
E-Fafts READ the dOcu ment ana otauber
4e Ail-a Ile e1amln tlon- The WarfaL.
y as issued IN the Chano oers. He has not
tie docket book with him
Senator johnson then offered TO o4t e
question 70 General ~hermant When
the President rendered you the office 8r
Secretary of War, at interim lamar. - tl
and Goth. 1868. did heat any II me on IualrI..,g
such tender; state what his purpose ~ -
QUESTION objected Co, and subn1 stfed ID
the SenaJe-feas aud nays p 70 2z-so the
question vas put and answered q Yes"
Mr.. johnson then offered this additional
his purpose vase
The Chief ice ruled that the question
was admissH4Mk as IL tended 10 sho the
import of the Presidents action, and in
this Court was bound by the same re-
strictive rules, In admitting evidence as
some OF a different character.
The yeas and nays resulted in 20 10 =.
So the question was answered, the con-
versatiOns were long.
The President told witness the relations
between himself and stanton We're such
that ne cOnid 40 have affairs admtnistered
properly In the interest Of the army and
the Wnole. country while be held position
as Secretary, % War. In the desire 70 pre-
mote and care for those Interests, she Pres
Ident said ne offered witness the position
case made up by his lawyers so as %
bring about the change without Involving
ter. The President piled 10 could not be-
done, but ii il could StantOn's case could
not stand an Sour.
The question was then asked by Mr..
StanbefN Have you answered as % what
occurred on both oecasIons2"
Obi jeet-ff to ON the ground that the Wit
ness had been dismissed from the stand,
and that therefore, hts examination could
not De renewed.
The ChIef Justice ruIet 1t could ne, and
a decision of The court being called for a
debate ensued between Butler and Evarts
and Lhe former ia the course OF his re-
marks, having by his tone and manner
in saying. "The question was put by the
Senate from Mary land, not as counsel Tor
the President" seemed to insinuate the
contrary, Johnson rose, and in very efn-
phatic and nervous manner, repelled any
Insinuatfon. adding that ne regarded 10 as
the solemn duty OF Senator TO put the
question.
Butler insisted that he meant no sar-
casm, and johnson expressed himself sat-
isfied.
Stanbery continued the a~gumenttn in de-
fense Of the claim that counsel had right
to continue he examination.
Bingham followed In the course of his
argument he said the testimony OF wit
ness has 50 far been Injurious 10 respond
ent, and his counsel wished 30 crOss-exam-
inc MIN, IN the hope OF elicittng some-
thing better. Bipgham maintained at
some length that 10 was in the power OF
the President 20 procure judicial ques-
tion Of the case, By means o quo lgar-
rdnto.
Evarts remarked that they were perfect
~ satisfied with the evidnce given by Wit
ness.
Bingham concluded, having spoken with
earnestuess.
The chief Justice again expressed the
opinion that the witness could answer Mr.
JOhnsoa's question. Have you answer
ed To both occasions2"
Witness said ttAt the first interview
nothing very definite was said by the
President or himself During the second
conversation, he President eX pressed a
wish 70 have the Constitutionality Of the
tenure of Office law decided; he also said
TO witness that II ne accepted the position
OF SecTe airy al interim SianiOn would
make 40 resistance. because he knew him
to be cOwardly. Witness gave no positive
answer at the time, but sent It in writing"
Henderson put the QuestiOn-Had the
President, on either OCCASION expressed
firm determfn ttion to remove 5tantOn2
Witness replied that the President had
never expressed any Intention to ukeforce,
but seemed determined that their reia-
tiOn- should cease.
Howard asked what did the President
say ABOUT 1orce2 UC-.#.esH
The witne - repeated vi a. he said before
in relation to the Pf estdent, the belief That
Mr. stanton would make no resistance.
Henderson asked Whetneu witness gave
the President any advice on this subIect2
The Senate refused 70 admit it.
The Managers nOiifLtd Gen. Sherman
that they would require his attendance IA
the morning. and he left the stand.
Mr. Meigs was recalled, and produced "a
docket book, from which be read the en-
tries IL tile ThOmas-s tanton case, and the
Court at $40, adjourned.