New-York tribune., 1868-03-27
JOHN BRIGHT on IRISH REFORM.


The debate on Irish Reforms was resumed in
the House Of Commons on March ls. Mr.. Chichester
Fortesque spoke with great moderation Of the proposals
of the Government. He regretted the decision to grant
charter to the Catholic University he would have pre-
ferred to have the University OF Dublin made
truly national institution but. at the time, he
should not oppose this part OF the Ministerial plan His
ported. but it seems sufficiently clear that he Is MOI
forward by Mr.. Mill and Mr Bright with re, 2,
gard to the Church, he spoke in the strong,ehse ,ha
existence of Protestant Establishment and urged that
it would be act OF judicial blindness, amounting AZ
most to insanity to turn deaf any longer 70 uhe ae
mands of the Irish people for religious equaly' Ie
0'Donoghue insisted that there was much lnoIe uisad
fcction in Iresnd than Lord Mayo was & 70 aa
init The irish Church and the position OF the and anes
ton in his opinion the leading causes Si %
would never rest satisfied until tIey haa asserted the
Of their SSmbers MT NeWdeSaS. Mr.
Herbert and Mr. Bright and was again adjourned
MIR Brght remarked that II was said by eminent cen
sors of ISe press that debate would occupy thirty
hours in talk and end IN no result No great Questions
of talk just 1t required many days OF alternating
shower and sunshine after the seed was sown to pen
for the harvest II the state Of things described by Mr.
Maeuire existing Ireland was true in addition to
Fenianism itself-a reckless and daring exhibition OF
and among the Catholic population universal dissatlsfac
ton No question they could discuss gravity
Lord stanley speech at the recent Bristol banquet
described the evils OF Ireland as arising from an absentee
believed that II Parliament would put an end to the
existence OF this alien church. and afford facilities for the
establishment OF proprietary rights, much OF the
grievance complained Of would be removed The bi OF
Lord Mayo very similar to the bill introduced ast
year. He proposed to advance sums or money 10 tne
tenants for purposes OF Improvement to be repaid TO the
authorities by some gradual process orepay ment spread
farmers of Ireland very numerous class perhaps
too for the good of the country Altogether
calculated that there about 10000 holders OF
land and II the plan Of the Government was to lead to
any result, 1t must be the source OF numerous
tran rtiOu8 vi
tho difficulties were very great HIS own opinion
real and and, sensible result. would be almost il not
altogether mpOssbe but II 1t was right for the Govern
ment 10 Introduce measure such this would 1t not be
possible for them take by somewhat similar process
step the direction Of establishing to some extent
Of ireland would consent establish among their ten
antry steady class OF proprietor between themselves
in giving steadness and loyalty and peace to the whole
population OF Ireland There would be no difficulty In
who were willing sell, and there some instances
such the land held by the London eompa
sale He would negotiate between the landlords
willing TO sell and tenants willing 10 buy, and he
would make the land TO be the saving bank OF the
tenantry future He would do nothing that was not
perfectly acquesced in by both landlord ana tenant ana
he would pay to every landlord every shilling ne eon,a
fairly demand In the market for the estate he wished 10
sell After this admission he hoped honorable gentle
opposite would acqut him OF any intention 70 roo
anybody He quite certain that If his plan were car
red and the tenant farmers were allowed 70 become
proprietors OF the SOIL would put efectua stop TO
dislOyalty and Fenianism He reminded honorable
gentlemen the ministerial heucnes tlht year
accepted proposition In regard TO reform
which for years he had tried To convince them was ia
and just. and only on "Wednesday last they accepted
another proposition I'm regard TO church rates almost In
the very terms In which he had proposed II x OF seven
years ago II they would kindly for moment forget the
things that they read Of him, that were not favorable and
generally true and would Imagine thatthough he
had Of land In Ireland lac could be as honest
y friend OF Ireland as the man VINO owned hhll
countyhey might come 10 see that u was worth thei,
while 10 consider for their own interests the interest," V
their tSnapts and the future peace and security OF tue
land there was not really sonet1g ~ IN Ine ~
tho Irish Church and Education no characterized the
G1yernment ProPoStoh 10. st'ns grotesouc nnd
mbecie. Nobody appeared 10 be In favor OF
10; indeed, II was IN much the same position as
the dual vote this time last year, ana might prODany
have been brought forward with the same object lie
rccOllected hearing OF man IN Buckingbhhshife-h
not Cabinet Minister. he was only mouhteDahA
great laughter wbo set up stall and IN order 10 gun
tho people offered 10 sell pills that were very good ashs
an earthquake Laugher That was about the state oil
Ireland 30 could doubt H. Protestant ascendancy
represented by stats Church IA Ireland was ine.h
taby doomed Lord Russell recently came forward win
new plan for remcdyng the evils connected with the
Irish Church. but Lord Russells pamphlet, though
written with nre and spirit and e9nlan,ng ihsa Mhsa
four years ago. The scheme shad9wen out ey @ tne
by for new Churches They would never again be
Institutions Of growth In this country ana ne
that no country in the world whoh Ias ot soe
10 pursue In Ireland 10 disendOw all religious bodies
and 10 withdraw the Maynooth grant ana the hegun
DOnum. II single sixpenee was gwen Dy rhrlliincn. ~
I'm Ien of the MaynoOth grant or the Regum DonuH IL
must be given on the condition only that became inc
absolute property OF the persons wnetnSr ~ @ td
and property too, which Parliament could never pre-
tend to control or regulate, or wthdraw. fSfanen'
Protestant Catholic and NOnc0nformist could De started
in Ireland as voluntary Churches. aud tho only eompet
ton among them would be which should 40 most Tor he
education and morals and Christianity OF the people who
were within their INSTRUCTION