The New York herald., 1868-04-13


sentatves TO Congress sufficiently Instructed to be
able to meet and expose the protective fallacies
no
tion ne instanced the election which constituted the
present Congress, resulting in majority favorable
or eight per cent OF the whole vote cast and yet that
party had surplus OF representation amounting 10
a majority sufficiently great to enable that party
to override every Presidential veto, though ~ .ne
time OF the election shifting OF five per cent oi odv ,v
vote would have made the whole representative pouy
Of America democratic instead OF repuDlicaaiI.
Against the evil of unfair representation such as i
the first eyii-the corruption and venality OF their
ofcehOlders-Mr. Hare's plan would DC a1 tarsa
arose principally fro the fact that the wirepuing
and Vaccinations OF party were SO 81 ~ t h thu
their influence that IN hne cass as oc CORRUPT To the
extent that Mr.. Hare's plan tends 10 enancapaee en
from parties to that extent II nade .hv.n nure RuLS
tended to purify the whole political atmosphere.
One objection to the scheme had been put Forward IN
America on the ground that IL might even admit OF
REPRESENTATIVES, OF the thieves OF New York. The
answer to the objection was obvious. Letthe thieves
have representative. The influence of that repre-.
sentaton would not be very great In an assembly OF
honest men; but 1t would be much better
to nave on one as 1der the system the
thieves should have thirty or forty representatives
He did not see any great dificuy IN the way Of car,
body under universal Suffrage should be, it were,
q reduced photograph Of the whole community
represented, and the minority was virtually disfran
chised. The system proposed by Mr.. Hare had been
unfortunately baptized as minority Representations
sentatlon Of majorities. Objection had been taken
to the plan on the ground Of its compexity. There
ment and in fact. Mr.. Hare's plan Was complex in
statement only; the present system was complex In
Of party were to be Written out and printed in book
the system would appear to those not familiar with
It's workings much more complex than MI. Hares
EUnR orilu n
us complex. The Post once was complex in Its
character, but at the same time perfectly
sD ceD not the sa Of ~ ey coa@ us
justice BY simple process 50 much the better; but
have been simpler, for instance. than the Draco-
MAN CODE which enacted death for every offence,
tionf People in this country could not feel the
necessity OF the adoption Of plan such as Mr. Hares
81 a1 IS truly at all
events, Of the wealth, the dignity, and the intellect
Of the nation: A Parliament which contained the
Marquis OF Westminster the representative OF Its
wealth. and Mr.. J. Stuart Mill to represent its INTEL
ect, excited their envy and admiration. And better
surrage unless it were accompanied by electoral re-
form which gave the fullest possible expression 70
ale all classes: II such were not the case they would be
most cultivated and the most intellectual part Of the
community.
In reply to question addressed to him by Mr.. c.
Mr. sterne said that, practically, there was no such
thing as secret voting In America The ballot there
as means OF lnsuring secresy, was entirely value
less.
The Irish Church Debate-viOlent Excitement
"Another Step Towards Rome,'' and Anti
Popery Manifestoes.
When the City Of Paris sailed from Queenstown
Great Britain deeply agtated by the Irish Church
question. The debate on Mr.. GladstOne's mo-
tion-the chief points Of which have been
reported fully by the cable, as has its issue
had commenced in the House OF Commons and was
progressing. The political world was considerably
excited and petitions for and against Mr.. Gladstone's
were being signed in all parts Of the
country. On all the large posting-bill boardings
about London were to be placards appealing to
the Protestant feeling of the public, many Of these
placarls containing language of the most inlamma-
tory character. One Of the most extensively posted
Of these placards read as follows:-
Another step towards Rome. The Church in Ire
land is assailed which has been established by law
and secured by treaty Of law. Mr. Gladstone leads
the attack. The author of "Church and Staten whom
protestant England once trusted, now leads the
attack. Will you allow thisl VIII you desert your
fellow Protestants in Irelandf Arouse yourselves,
Prctestants In England Call upon your representa-
tives to do their duty by at once rejecting proposal
which will be but the first step towards pulling down
constitution of England. The year of peril-1s6s.
During the debate on the Church question, March
ported POI ted by % the cabe-said why should you be
afraidS Even children, you know, can be induced,
by repeated practice to 60 into dark room without
fear. (Laughter.) You have all seen, Will not say
lions in the path Il will not dignity them with the
name OF lion for they are obgoblins-(renewed
them, as you have great many times since have
been in the habit OF speaking opposite to you-lloud
only hobgoblins, and you have learned to regard
them as perfectly harmless And while you
thought / was offending you violently and upset
intr a hnt M
you good and that the constitution was rather
stronger than 1t was before. tHear, and laughterl
years ago, our colonial system was wholly different
from what it is now. 1t has been altogether changed
the authors Of that change. Well, but all our colo
MES, you will admit are much more easily gov
erned e ana macn more ,oyal now now tnan tney were In
tem- really do not want to offend anybody by men,
tionng it-but since the time when SIR Robert Peel
came into oice in ls4l our financial policy has been
altogether changed; and yet the revenue Of this
country Is not only larger..-which think msfor-
it is more secure than it even was at any
previous period OF our history. Take your ola
was fearful monster. loud iauchter'l But the
protective system IL gone, and now every man among
you viii admit that industry being more free through
out the country Is better rewarded, and that the
land, which you said would go out Of cutL
vation, sells for far higher price in the
market than IL ever did before tCheers.) WE'LL
now, there are two other points, one OF
which we had up last night after most honorable
gentlemen nhd gone nome. Ine palance OF power
was once considered-what shall sayY--the very
beginning and ending Of our foreign policy in
deed, l am not sure that there are not some
statesmen in the other House who believe in II
vet. Q.aughter) But what happened last nghts
The noble lord, the member from Haddingtonshire,
came up from Scotland brimful OF enthusiasm for inn
possible projects and proposed to put In these words
''balance OF power' into the Mutiny bill. And what
did one Of your most esteemed statesmen the noble
lord the Secretary for Foreign Anairs say? He said
he had been surprised that the honorable member
for Chatham should have proposed to take these
words out, because they meant nothing, but he was
still more surprised that the noble lord should ask
for them to be retained daughter and "Oh, oh ~
Therefore, you the balance OF power Is gone, and
tona and fair administration Of foreign affairs by
The mob lord the honorable member for Kings Lynn
cheersl IL at this moment just as much respected by
all the foreign Powers as she when she was
ready TO NEEDLE in every stupid quarrel that arose
upon The continent. (fiear, hear.)
Labor Riois-The Revenue.
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