New-York tribune., 1868-04-04

when Mr. Stewards name was mentioned, and there were
cheers for Mr. Seward The President said he would
There were cries OF Thad. stevens" The PIe-ideui
asked. "why don't you hang Thad Stevens and Nehae
Phillpsi" Then there were cheers and hi,-es J he
President proceeded 10 say that having fought traitor
at the South he would night them at the North. Ihen
there were cheers and Kisses. There al-0 cit,
when the President said he would do this by the hc O
the people, there were cries of VT won't gave H. Ih
interruption continued IN the shape OF cheers hscs ana
cries Of the same sort throughout the speech
Mr. BUTLER-state whether these cries cheers ana
hsseS would be continued so az 10 make Int IHpioh
Last for some timei a Yes, frequently Tor seNea MN
utcs
q On that time would YOU be able to get uryour re
pOtt. A. ! able 10 make, during The most Oh Ieh
verbatim report of what the President sald.
Re-croSs-eNamnation By Nj. EtAlIs-1Ou mhue .
memorandum OF the time Of these interruptions
@ OF these cries aud Kisses \. did.
@. while yOu doing that. you could catch ~ WIN
The Presidents speech, could youi Laughter. -,
Now have yonuot in each statement you have naGe
OF these Interruptions read from The nc~sIaPerz pep %
yOui A. have read from the newspapers. thlA lia'
every one of them was IN the newapapGrs ..,,,,.o
O. Are you not quite sure OF u A. am not lpsltNe
q without that newspaper, do yOn recollect any ~
these interrupuonsi A. do. all Of them shoId not
have been able TO give them without the ala Of thoeuo
randum.
q You made a report of these Interruptions On your
notcsi Yes Of al that the crowd saldi A. Not 81 AZ
Why not Of all! made notes OF all that was a!e 10
catch.
and put down aud yet you say YOU were able 10 eaten
mp with the Prcsidenti A. gave my hrst attention 10
Keeping up with the President and wherever there was
pat the interruptions down. and the cries Of the
senator GRIMES put the following to the witness in
writing desire the witness To specify the particular
part of the report published, which was snlped ~
the reporter Johnson
Withess-It is impossible for do that at this time
MIR BUTILR-State whether any special part 0iit Was
supplied by hiEl or whether ii only connected by
Johnson. notes A. The report made out frOn my
notes. ana connected by Mr.. JOhns0n's; caund -ay
whether there were any other sentences on Mr.Joh'oh
@ state whether long practice in reporting would ena
BILE person by long hand to make out suO'ahaIP aC
1Yttg rgf
Mr. EvARTs-Ask whether this witness can do 1t.
Witnes,-I have had considerable practice reporting
in that way and can make out Substantially accurate
NE p,N1fLc c. M'EwEN's TESTIMONY.
Daniel C. McEwen sworn, and examined by MI
O. What Is your profcssoni A. A shorthand re
q How long has that been your profession A. About
O. We're You employed in September 1906 in reporting
for any pdptrt A. was.
q. What papcri The New- York World
4. Did you accompany Mr.. johnson aud the PreSi-
dc al party when they lay the stone Of
line monument in honor OF Mr. Douglass A did
q Where did you join the parJi a Al Ho't foht'
o HON long did Won continue with the partyi A. /
continued until 10 arrived at Cincinnati on its return
O. Did you 20 professionally a reporteri A. did.
q. Had you accommodations - suchi A. ha9' ,
q. Had you the eutree OF the Presidential earl a.
O. Were you at CleveandI A. was.
Cleveland from the balconyl a. did.
q. How A. sienOgraPhically.
Q. Have you at my request, copied them on, since You
have been here. A. | have.
O. Is this handing a paper to the witness a copy Of
them A. IL is.
q Is it an accurate copy from your notes A. Il is.
the speech A. Ny notes are, consider. very accurate.
80 far as took them few sentences left ont
by confusion the crowd. but have IN those cases IN
my transcript, incOsed IA brackets the parts aDo
O. when they are not iuclosed in brackets, how are
they a. Ihey are correct, o., .-- -.
notes OF the speech aud knowing tho atent o the hour
IL O'Clock aiter-thAt 10 impossible ior me 10
write Out report q is eSn Sn Gou so M f ieePaph P oee
after this speech givcu aud dictated some o. ny
notes 10 onrr reporter ana c3rrcsponaen'. We i.
report which given To the agent ol iht AssoeiA'u
Press Mr. Gobright.
O. Did the agent Of the Associated Press accompany
the Presidential party for the purpose \. he-.
O. Wa il s business ana duty 10 forward reports "
the speechesi A. suppose 1t to be- a.,
q Have YOU put down the chccr aud Interruptions of
the crowd any portion of them A. have put down
a portion Of them; 1t impossible To gct all
q was there not great deal Of confusion and noise
o. were there expressions of llfteling aud iemperi
~ O. On the part Of the erowdi \. Yes sir.
u How. the part Of the President - A coh-ldtrtu
o. Wa ANYTHING said there to him by the crowd about
his keeping he dignity A. have not my notes.
q 10 you rccocct itl 4. do not
q Was there anything said about hs not getting mdd
o Did The crowd caution him about not getting mad
A. The words used were, . Don { get nad, Audy.
o. Did be appear considerably excited AT that moment
when ihoy told HIM not 20 gci inadf
Mr. EyARTs said that That War not part Oh Ia" pres
Mr. BIjI'I,ER remarked | want to get ~ much "
can from the memory Of this witness and as much as
can from his notes, that WIN both ogethSI We may
have perfect transcript OF the proceedings The alega
tlon denies that there scandaous and disgraceful
scene conditions being hathe counsel Tor the Pres
dent claim freedom Of speech aud We claim deeeney OF
speech We trying 10 show the ndeoency OF the
7 ~ in
country 10 liberty OF speech properly ana dscrooty
MI BUTLER-I respect freedom Of speech IN TINS
country as freedom Of the private citizen, 10 any
thing In "A decent manner.
Mr. EvARTs-Yes It is the same thing, and who is to
''fo M BUTLER-The Court before which man is tried
Mr. EVARTs-Did you ever hear Of a man being tried
for freedom of speechi
Mr. BUTLER No; but two or three who ought
TO nave been laughter In the Court.
To the witness: ! asking you whether there was
excitement ia the manner OF the President
al the time he cautioned by the crowd not 10 get
Witness-I was not standing where | could the
President conld not know his manner only heard the
O. Judging from what you heard A. He seemed
excited; do know what his manner Is from personal
CrOss-examned by Mr. EVAR1S
O. Did you report the whole OF the Presidents speech
A-The hour late aud left shortly before he closed
do know how long before the close Of his speech
q SO that your report does not purpor to give the
whole speechi A. No, SIR.
O From the time that he commenced until this point at
which you left did you report the whole OF his speech
A. No Sir Certain sentences broken OFF by the IN
terruptiOns OF the crowd
O. but ASIDE rom the interruptions, did You continue
through the whole Of the speech to the point az which
you left A. did.
o Did you make a report OF IL. word for word you
sunpOsed \ A. Yes, Sir; as understood IL.
d And did you note, word for word, the Interruptions
OF The assem6lyi A. did not; took the principal
olamations; could net hear all Of them.
o. And this copy manuscript which you produced,
when aid you make il A. / made that about weeks
since after summoned before the Managers Of the
Impeachment.
rt taken after the lapse Of two years IL had been
made pre sently when the speech deiyercdl A.
generally fnd that when speech Is fresh In my mind,
write INV notes with more readiness than when they
have become old but the cOrrestne-s Of the report
think can make accurate Transcript Of the notes
now as | could have done then.
o. You have nothing to help you when you transcribe
afr he pse of time but the notes before YOU A. That