The New Orleans crescent. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1866-1869, 1868-10-25
H [oFFICIALl .ss.
STATE LEGISLATURE.
DEBATKs OF THE sEN ATE.

IN ire Cenate. on TUESDAY evening, OCTOBER Nv,
1855 rnder suspension of the rules the report OF
the committee on claims upon House bill No. 2i3.
an act for the relief of Martha Waters, having
been read: pr ~
Mr.. Lynch-Mr. President, dislike very much
TO oppose bill Of this kind. bnt do not see how
we can appropriate m ney in this way. can
how gentlemen can put their hands into their
pockets and assist such persons but it is quite an
other thing to vote the money of the State. sm
willing to contribute as literally from my own
pocket as can for this lady, butt cannot support
this bill. Ii 10 wrong in principle and sets pre-
cedent which will be ruinous.
MIR 0'Hsra-I will only remark, Mr.. President,
that this lady on the Both of July lost all the money
she had. She is very old woman, aud as regards
the loss the committee on claims of the House ex-
ahmed the evidence and reported favoraDly on
the claim. That is all know about the case.
Mr.. LyDch-lt seems to me il would be compe-
tent for her 10 sue the city it is for the city to
pay. and not the whole State. understand from
senator that she is now suing the city. Now, If
II Is necessary that she have money to prosecute
her aim against the city let us put our hands 10
our own pockets and assist her. Bot it seems to
me very unwise and impolitic to establish such
precedent.
The yeas and nays being ordered, the bill was
pasted-yeas 10, nays 5.
Mr.. Anderson having, under a suspension of the
rules, introduced resolution appropriating one
hundred dollars to A. W. Roberts, CLERK of the ju
dietary committee, said: ..-.s 81
Mr.. President, will state for the information of
the Senate that this gentleman is the only clerk OF
a committee not provided for by an extra appro.
priaiion. His duties have been as arduous as
those OF any clerk of any committee. Therefore
1t is only simple act OF Justice that he recsive
th,s amount of one hundred dollars.
Mr. lynch disspprove of this whole thing,
Mr.. President, but If any clerks are to receive ex
ira compensation, the clerk of the finance COM
mittee, Mr.. Peralta, who has done more work than
any other clerk connected with the Senate, is en-.
titled to it.
Mr.. Anderson-I move to amend that the clerk
of the finance committee receive the same extra
compensation.
Mr.. Daytime to amend that the clerk of the
committee on contingent expenses receive the
same extra compensation.
The amendments were adopted and the resolu-
ton passed.
communication from the House, announcing
the passage of House bill No. l54, " an act to
thorIz- and require the mayor and Common
Council of the city of New Orleans to issue bonds
for Tie redemption of city notes, and the liquida.
ton of other Indebtedness" over the veto of the
governor, was read.
Mr.. Lynch call for an executive session.
Mr.. Ogden-l second the call.
Mr.. Foute-Mr. President. / protest. / rely,
sir, upon your discretion and common sense, and
your power as president Of this Senate, &c bring
II to order.
The PRESIDENT will bring it to order as soon
Mr.. Foute-Mr. President, do not believe that
the last moments of a session, when there are
grave questions to be discussed, in which the
people Of the State and of our city are vitality
Interested that debate should thus be cut of aud
spectators excluded. i wish, sir, to meet this
question fairly and openly. ! have heard it said,
sir, that men are speculatiDg upon this bill. Let
it be 30. Let US talk about 1t. | do not desire,
do think it just, that there should be a total
suppression of debate. l want the doors of this
Senate open. | am not ashamed. sir, of the
opinions express here. Sir, this bill has his
tory. We were deluded with the idea. if it was
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would be sustained in doing something for the
good of our people. We had clamorous petitions
from policemen, and from various school teach
ers-they call them school marms, / believe, in
New England. (Laughter.)
Mr.. Whiiney-what do they call them in Lou
isians?
Mr.. Foute-It does not make any difference
where they are-they are the same. They are
wor by of all consideration and respect. | do not
care what they call them here or elsewhere.
Mr.. Ogden-I second that. (Lsughter.)
Mr.. Fouie-Now sir, we had petitions coming
upon this Senate and TO the House Of Representa-
lives, and they were appealing to all the authori-
ties that could relieve them, these sclo j marms
were. After appeal upon appeal had been made,
il was determined to refer these matters to the city
delegation. They made me chairman of the city
delegation. declined it. because / thought
was not a fnancier. They insisted upon il.
then said Gentlemen, If you will allow me to do
this thing in the manner which consider proper,
if you will allow the committee to be instructed in
these matters by able finsncers Of the city, will
act as chairman. They agreed to do so. sent
out then to my city friends. They came alto
getber, and we took from each man bis idea OF
what was right and proper. Somebody 10 the
House took from this bill the substantial portion,
and they passed il before we could pass it in the
Senate. They added some features and seat it
down here.
The president called Senator Ogden to the
chair.
Mr.. witgenstein moved the doors be opened.
Mr.. Foute-Mr. President, 1 desire to say here
that / wish to act openly upon the governors
veto, and let Us know how we stand UPON this
question. / ask the doors be opened. am not
ashamed of my vote upon this subject.
Senator Ogden (from the chair)-l must call the
gentleman to order.
The yeas and nays being ordered on the open.
ing Of the DOORS the motion was lost by six yeas,
10 nays.
The president resumed the chair.
The nominations of E. B. Mentz, for sheriff Of St.
Mary parish. vice H. H. Pope, deceased, aud of j..
II. Handy, for parish judge of st. Mary parish.
vice Valentine Chase, deceased, were then con-
irmed.
The Presdent-Does the Senate expect the ex-
ecuiive minutes TO be published with the other
journals? IL so, the injunction of secrecy should
be raised. think the Constitution requires them
TO be published.
Mr.. Bacon do not know that the Constitution
requires the publication of these long lists of yeas
ard nays on the confirmation of appointments.
On motion of MIR. O'Hsra the injunction of
secrecy WAS raised.
Executive session being raised on motion of Mr..
WittgensIein the veto message on House bill l64
was read.
Mr.. Rsy-Mr. President move that the Senate
proceed TO reconsider this bill according TO the
provisions of the Constitution and upon that mo-
zion call for the previous question. Id.
Mr.. O'Hsra-I second the motion for the pre-
vious question.
Mr.. Lynch hope, sir, the gentleman will not
press this matter, but will give opportunity for
discussion.
Mr.. Ray-I adhere to my motion for the pre-
vous question.
On motion of Mr.. Lynch the yeas and nays wer e
ordered, resulting yeas 10, nays 8, and the main
question was not ordered.
Mr.. Lynch regret, sir. that at this late honr
| this matter Is forced upon Bot cannot keep
| my seat and see what in my judgment Is great
| wrong inflicted upon any portion of the State
| without raising my voice in protest against 1t.
| The veto message Of the governor has just been
read in our hearing. To those of Us who have
| paid attention to that document its arguments
| must seem conclusive. / do not see how any can
did man. having at heart the interests Of the city,
can vote to pass this bill the Of the gov
| ernor. To me the arguments of his excellency
are conclusive, and fully agree with him IN the
declaration that it Is difficult to conceive the pro-
visions of a bill on this subject which could be
more Objectionable to the taxpayers OF New Or