The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-10-29

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Nineteenth Disseminating Observation-Disclosures
| Days Debate-Postponemcnt Of the Winnie
l Question.
The nineteenth days proceedings opened, as usual,
| with prayer, Rev. Francis r. Hanson, OF Alabama,
and Rev. William II. Clarke, OF Georgia. officatng,
and Bishop Lee OF Iowa pronounced the henedic-
tion The secretary read the journal OF the last es-
| sion and IL was approved.
CLOSING ADJOURNMENT.
The House concurred with the bishops TO adjourn
| sine die tonight, and Mr. Welsh, chairman OF
| the Committee OF Arrangements stated the ar
rangements made for the concluding services atCa
vary church. After transacting some minor business
the House proceeded to discuss
RITuALIsM.
Rev. DR.. Paddock, OF Michigan, believed IL ex-
| traordlnary and unworthy OF the Convention to
| postpone the subject as If the House wsuld
shrink from it as a subject Of too vast pro-
| portion. The spirit prevalent was beautifully
| harmonious and every member was convinced that
the spirit OF God was with them and no wlllen-
gage In vehemence OF debate In presence OF the angels
| whom God has given charge Of this body, that he
| may not dash his foot against stone.
| Rev. Dr. Edwin NJ. Van Deusen, OF Western New
York. did certainly consider it dsrespectful to the
House to postpone the subject indefinitely. There is
u
| but some substitute might be contrived to carry
majority vote. This is not the first time that II Q
speaker cited the subject OF the oxford tracts which
| IN 1914 created such excitement, when oil were
agasp awaiting the result OF the excited debate,
which lasted six days. And vet the decision OF the
| House was implicitly obeyed, though the danger
threatened war far more destructive than any that
| may come from advanced rtualism. But he was EN-
barrassed to the two renorts, for he would not
side with the advocates OF ritualism nor with those
who wish to institute strict and rigid uniformity Of
wOrshD.
| Here whole bundle OF messages from the Honse
OF Bishops on matters OF MINOR routine business in
| terrupted the debate After these messages had
| been read Rev. Isaac P. Labaeh took the foor and
believed this subject OF rtuaism to be the most i'm.
have left all other things untouched, for in these the
public take but little interest; but rtuais Is SUBJ
less acted upon by this Convention 1t viii become
greater evil STILL II the papers had announced three
cases OF Asiatic cholera In Boston, New York and
In connection And 50 should this body act against
| the epidemic Of rituasmS In England royal CON-
mission was appointed on the subject, and they
should act here also and not postpone and shirk it.
Where there Ia so much smoke there must be fire;
| for SO much commoton there must be cause, and
the House should not pass by It, He was In favor Of
| substituting the minority report: for 1t met the
question, especially the fourth resolution, fairly and
| squarelY The whole Church looks TO them, that
they should blow q trumpet not giving an uncertain
sound. Suppose there was Romsh Church
Rev. ' DR.. Labarh II was only going to say
| Repeated raps with the hammer and laughter, and
the reverend gentleman bowed to the Chair and sat
down.
They had in the Indictment against rtualism six
specific charges and all are only expressive Of the
degree Of reverence due to the Holy Eucharist The
superlative degree Of reverence demanded for IT, he
asserted introduced only 10 maintain the author
ity OF the Pope of Rome. In England 1t was decided
by the highest ecclesiastical authority that the burn
of incense is But he referred to this subject merely
for the purpose TO show that this question could not
be settled by the House In the way proposed vote
ments OF schism in IL. Send the matter to the
fathers Of the Church. the bishops and they may act
Or. ShatucE. OF Boston, mentioned tho cholera
argument stating that there were quarantine laws
hnrc av snoen 10 genan rom south
Carolina he said had referred to his ancestors. he
tthe speakerl was Puritan and his ancestors for
two hundred years were Puritans, who once were
frightened by rituaiism and enectualy put 1t down.
He referred to two churches OF the Congregation.
aliss In Boston, both full or symb0isms, and one of
them had the top ten feet higher than Bun
ker Hill monument and the other even cloister. No
harm can come from rltualtsm. The complaint
against the Episcopal Church was that it was cold
Chnrch.fnll OF Journalism. There needs TO be more
Rev Dr. Gadsden, Of South Carolina, spoke OF the
Catholic Church as dressing too much, while the
Calvnists dress too little; hut their Church keeps
| the middle way. Things are different here from
| what he was accustomed 20. Never before did he
| see candesticks and cross on the altar until he
came into this church t0f the Translguratton); but
| II these novelties are instrumental in saving souls
| let IL be so. He could take the sacrament under
OF the Episcopal churches in this city such as he saw
In Europe In churches OF the RoInsh faith. II this Is
it to the world: II not then say So too openly but
do not shrink from meeting the question and take
action and In this matter he heartily preferred the
Mr. william welsh, of Pennsylvania. was in favor Of
almost every word Of both reports and they
acted the Church would be hurt. There are
other things more hurtfui. When allow auction
highest bldder~and minister told him that shoddy
outbid his parlshioners and over thirty families
were shut out from the church. He tMr welsh)
would not care II an earthquake would tumble down
every such prvate chapel offhe rich. the doors Of
which closed TO the poor He regretted that this
an excrescence Of evils detestable 1t is In
itself brought up, but being before the House
Rev. william Newton, OF ohio, strongly protested
against the demand for federation being listened
TO- and he hoped that the subject would DC met IN
end Of
BOARD or MISSIONS.
A message from the House Of Bishops announced
constitute the Board Of Missions for the next three
years. 1t is o remarkable fact that this Is the FIRST
| Board OF Missions of this Church since 1859, in
which all the d0ceses throughout the country and
a geographicai sections are actually represented,
| reunited than the republic.
RIrrALrsM RESUMED.
Rev. Edmund I. Perkins, OF Kentucky, took the
floor and opposed the pOsponement, az the question
| was one OF too great MAGNITUDE to be passed BY
In this manner. They ought not 10 expose tnen-
selves to the charge that they had not the power by
which this thing could be stopped-that the Church
could not exist unless II tolerated all sorts OF evils
in IL. Never knew many conversions to federation
he had witnessed within the last two DAYS on this
| question. The House knew to act on other ques-
lions. Why not on tlsY Here the hour for recess
was announced.
Afternoon Session.
RTTUALIsM AGAIN
After appointing committee TO prepare . new
digest OF canons and referring the question OF mis-
sionary bishops for existing doceses to the next Con-
vention, the Rev. DIR. Goodwin, OF Pennsylvania
spoke OF conversation between an Episcopal and
Presbyterian minister "a TO the introduction OF
and the like, and the Presbyterian said that
n they them nothing Ia said about IT, for with tho
Presbyieuans crosses and ike symbols do not mean
anything. But with Episcopalians they do mean
something. And said the doctor, they mean sym
bolizing Rome and he was against IT,
Rev. DR.. Mahan said that the proposition Ia
whether the movement IL only ripple on the sur
face Of pool tidal wave over the whole world.
lie believed IT TO be the latter movement going on