The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1868-05-13

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| Tabled.
/ Mr.. KeskAnn offered resolution that Mr..
4. Jones be required to produce his creden-
tiAls. Carried.
His Ex.F W. Hutchison gave notice Of q
bill to amend Sections us, ils, l2o and I2l Of
the Civil Code.
On motion of Mr.. Hitchcock, tho Order Of
| the Day was taken up.
| ORDER or THE DAx.-An Act to amend Sec
ton gss Of the Civil Code. Read and passed
| Sd reading.
An Act to amend Section 2. Chapter IS. Of
the Civil Code, was read and passed Srd read
| ing.
| An Act to amend chapter IS Of the Civil
4 Code. reducing interest Of money 70 nine per
cent, passed third reading.
! An Act for the protection Of life and proper
, ty against other substances than gunpOwder,
I passed third reading.
An Act to transfer the supervision Of the
Police, passed third reading.
| An Act to amend section 4sl, was next in
order. House went into Committee Of the
/ Whole. Mr.. Hitchcock called to the Chair.
! The bill was 20 reduce the horse tax.
/ Mr.. Rhodes said that if the Minister Of FL
nance yielded up some Of the taxes Of the peo-
pie, he would be followed BY the blessings Of
the land. He thought that at the present stage
/ Of the appropriation bill this subject should
not be brought up. He was not certain con-
/ eerning the subsidy for the California steam
ers. but the voice Of various interests Of the
country should be heard. There was strong
I opposition to the measure in the House, and he
was not certain but il would be successful.
/ The Ministers should have a chance to explain
I their views in regard to this tax. He there
/ fore moved that the bill be tabled until the
subject Of the subsidy comes up in its order in
the appropriation bill.
I for postponing this bill, for it was no new
thing, and decisive action ought now TO be
taken upon it. Ever since 1857, this subject
had been up The taxes on .ats and on
women have been taken of, and now the na-
ton ask that the horse tax should be reduced
The public.must not be inconvenienced by the
paying of a large sum like $50 900 to steam
er OF any other private enterprise. few men
are enriched, but the common people are made
poorer. The public revenue would not be made
smaller, for we know that measure to change
the stamp laws viii be brought in, that viii Be
source Of = large revenue.
his Ex. c. de Varigny said that he had
listened to the arguments brought forward,
and had not heard anything calculated to make
hIm alter his views as formerly expressed.
he wanted to take up and discuss two argu-
mentS the hrst was that the Treasury was
full. and that therefore this was the time to
repeal the horse tax. He did not agree with
this, and wished the members to bear in mind
[ that the passage or failure Of the Reciprocity
[ Treaty with the United States would create
changes, and that therefore the time was not
well selected to sweep of $50, 900 of the public
revenue In his opinion there we're two WAYS
/ Of helping the people. which was now under
discussion, TO decrease the tax, the other to
help the people to grow richer and better For
this end he and his colleagues had advocated
the passage Of the Treaty, and i; was for this
end that they had recommended subsidies to
Inter-IslAnd and ocean steamers. They believed
[ that It was better 10 increase the means of
communication, to enable the poor man to find
remunerative market for his oranges. coffee,
nee, etc, than to reduce this tar on the
/ ground that II was oppressive. He did not be-
lieEe It to be oppressive. II was said let the
tax on horses be on an average with other
taxes He vas willing. The tax on articles of
necessity was 10 per cent and on horses, where
value was said to be on an average $40, the
same Truly the articles Of necessity paid but
once, but it vas consumed aud the horse was
not, and if good for anything could earn
enough for its owner 10 enable him TO nav one
dollar year. II Is true that in the District OF
NsIme4 horses were necessary 70 man 10
earn his living, but it was not 50 everywhere.
and #, in some instances, horses were neces-
slty' IN others they we're means Of mere
pleasure. sometimes Of dissipation. He and
ms colleagues would heartily cooperate with
the Representatives in tightening the burdens
Of the people, but this was not one, and he
hoped, especially in view Of the changes that
may originate from the passage Of the Treaty,
that they would pause before repeating the
Law a. II now stands
Mr.. Lyons said that His Ereellenev had
told Us that be heard the same argument from
year TO year IN favor Of this bill Well, some
Of Us on this side of the House hear the same
old azguu9nts from the opponents Of the bill.
an1 nave the same occasion to be tired Of hear
ing them The general treatment Of the bin
has been in sneering, supereiIious wav. a.
leglslAslFe records viii show, and the uuseem-
y haste With which His Execliency moved 10
reject the bill, and the remarks made yestsr-
day By one Of the MOBILES On this measure a.
one merely supported for the sake Of populsr-
lty, vii still testify. 1t i now recommended
% NaI, till ne steamer subsidy question is dis
posed Of We should keep the two things
=sP2Ezte, as nothing would make the subsidy
more unpopular than the idea tha. IL was paid
By the unreduesd horse tar We should eon-
SAT- the wishes Of the people. Whenthe steam
er sub=idy passes, If il does 50, it shouId be
paid for cut Of property taxes Az TO any de-
heieBcys cattle sh0uld Be made 10 bring more
reTen1e 70 the Government than at present.
he Minister'S argument, that because an in
70 pay one dollar duty, thersfors q horse worth
ten dollars shoald pay ene dollar tar. l. sim
ply ridieuloas- II proTes that On the contra
y, horse Worth 500, shoaId pay one doIISr.
Ooss not the horse pay the Esme tax over and
over again for ssy ten yearsg How mary
times does the salmon pay ta1es7 Aad was
ths horse 70 be eaten after he had paid his tax7
AoE about horses Tor amusement GrEns
that they are, which, a. in my remarks Of
"a "a 4 - -
they are the legitimate means of recreation.
snd tas better than any revival Of old games
toF the god ef the people Do you say that
bse2ase people get their living by their horsss
that they shoald pay extra taxeE. answer
that they 0nly get hare living, and not such
= RroAtable ine0zs - wsrEaBts tax Of two
o. thrs- aoIlzrs for a. many horses. / still
E1pport The eriZinal bill.
Ax- Azhelons aid that the PRINCIPAL srxu-
ne1s 81 the other side had been that The Gov
srnzsnt zszld Ioss 80 .08e. The people have
Epoksn thEszgh vzEious petitions their desirss,
which have seen diErszsrded ever since the
year Is4s- This BiH 10 the ns0st import
sst that hz9 e07e up this seszioE, and nsust
he vel Tsntilstsd- He zas glad 70 bear that
tbszs vas plenty Of money IN the Treasury
AID rs1id vote for internal inproFsnsnt. he
ssaid Bst sss tie prophstg Of putting oG the
eszsidsrz1is1 of fhis ban snfi the Subsidy
szo7A bs 1sesdsd- He suggested . tax %
ezt;ie. -hieh sosld Gn up ali de1eisssy made
IN the rsysnss. Hs szid that under system
u t2xzts1a - animals, sseh - ezffis, shesp,
yssts Etc. his oSn s41ss EeaId be over $40. %.
Ehieh b< EoaA gladly pay Il Il Hsald rslisEs
the posY psspls-
Bsn. p. sahasIsiss liked tie rsnnks sd-
Esered ~ the Esszbsr fsr Eva asd Wsiaaas,
sat ts thszght god deal u Il znozntsd 70
zstAisg Bat sind. He eppsssd the bln BE-
sssss hs vrs szttzfsd that doing away with