New-York tribune., 1868-05-02
EUROPE.
GREAT BRITAIN.

THE DEBATE on TIE IRISH CHURCIiES-SPEECHES
BY GLADSTONE AND DIsEAELI-DECISIvE DE-
FEAT or THE GOVERNMENT.
NJ ATLANTIC TKLEeRArH TRBuNE
LONDON, May LIN the debate on the Irish
Church in the House of Commons last night, walpOe
IN the OF his remarks in opposition 20 Mr. Glad
stones resolves, said these attacks clergy such
that Of the Irish Church. whOwere noted for the purity Of
their doctrine. and for their elevated learning and Christ
ian ZEAL lead the most disastrous results
Lord EchO said that the introduction of these resolves at
the present Zine was unnecessary and unfortunate Inc
Roman Catholics OF Ireland would never be satsned
with anything short Of supremacy in ecclesiastical mat
He regarded the issue presented 10 the House as an
imperial for the Church establishments OF England
and OF Scotland were menaced as well as tha Oh
These blows struck at the whole system O e union
uf Church and State in the United Kingdom
At rather late hour in the presence OF Iu H9us n
there being unusual attendance Oh hctIs Vi ooh
parties IN expectation Of DIVISION MI Glauslole lVsc
aud loudly eheered. He commenced Dy SAYING rna'
he could not complain OF the result 9I tnlS S
These eleven nights OF discussion had fuly
thai Tie Irish Church Establishment never dd
and never could fulfill the end OF ITS creation WAS o
the church OF the nation; 1t was not inc chuICn& III Tl
the poor nor was missionary church il existed ony
for The purpose Of sustaining political supremacy IN
form most hateful to the people upon Wcn ~ d T t @ %
that should continue 20 exist Now was me tme 10
apply the remedy. The Ministers nay l"ISGu clo @
gard to it upon which they subsequently
failed TO agree ne Won1 say Vts nUs in IreIan5
for more and better information was needed on qucs
ZION involving extensive. Ourduy now was
10 accord Justice Ireland Mr. Gladstone then, alludng
20 fbe neOnal attacks which had been made upon him,
denied i'm the most explicit manner that he had any
nection with interest in the policy or plans OF either
the Rtualists ON the one hand or the HOman Caln-
made against his proposition, he said two
leading objections had been made To ms plah
for the dsesablshment of the Irish Church one was
that il mpered the existence of the Established Church
of England the other objection was nat the time was
inoppOrtuue Ten years ago SAID Mr. GadSlone tie @ eo
Die OF Great Britain Indifferent ana then the miro
dueuOn of great reform would have been ntimeg: NOW N4wi
the people aroused and the opportunity presented
itself early and sound settlement OF the question
The strength OF the Church of England lay in her own
merits and in the voluntary zeal or her N0tles IaI Inoe
in her connection with the STATE ne eNpIcsseu e
belief that the Church OF England would lose none OF her
strensIh even II pa ttu nun !, 're Z ~ , "a ~ 80
from her parsans than from her foes ana lhe re-
strengthen the Church OF England Mr.. Disraeli then
ruse, amid the excited cheers OF the House, to
tho act OF injustice contemplated by these resolves IL
which involved wide conscaion OF property
d menacod the rights Ofevery corporation and OF every
person in the United Kingdom IL lneyltahy must pre-
dispore the public mind for similar attack upon
ediy was intended TO have such influence
But nm spite of the vulence Of the press and the PE9s
sure brought bear by the advocates OF change he
firmly believed the English people would never sahcuOn
fbs Sacrifice of sacred things party necessities lead
ing as il was sure TO lead results only to be described
as revolutionary. At q o'clock this morning
lie House divided the first OF Mr. Glad
stones resolves, and the count stood as follows
For the resolve $50 against the resolve. 2G5 majority,
Is. The announcement of the result was received Win
loud and prolonged cheering from the Liberal benches
Mr. Dsraei then rose and 9mid tns mGst piooehd . i
ministry and the House OF Commons, that the Gov
Prnncut needed time 10 cOuslucf NHdJ dttOn III
wOnld take. He accordingly moved that the House
adjourn until Monday. The motion was carried
OPINIONS OF TIE LONDON PRESS
The Times says, can deny the immense signi-
rance of this event Since the motion 10 into Com
tee the Tories have gained three seats ia the Com
IaOns yet the 60 majority has grown 10 be 60 dssou-
tion is talked o. merely to frighten members
The Herald says, the House Of Commons, by large
vote Importance of which cannot be denied, ahirms
that the Irish Church should be disesJabshed, hut the
of Commons does not speak the voice OF the cOu
try, the late elections show.
Ddify u is satisfactory 10 1nd That the
Premier diSclams the design of advising the Queen 10
act agauS the vote OF the House O Commons. His duty
is not TO dissolve Parliament resign, but TO aid the
progress of the resolves
The Standard deprccatts the vote OF want OF confidence
az compelling dissolution, but fears that the Liberals
intend To pursue that course.
PROBABLE DISSOLUTION or PARLIAMENT.
EvENING.Ihe belief has become general that after the
passage the Reform hills for Ireland ana scotland, the
Disrae Ministry Will dissolve Parliament and appeal 70
people the IRISH Church question Ihe Globe OF this
afternoon, editorial confirms this opinion.
TRAIN AGAIN IN COURT.
DUBLIN. May 1.-George Francis Train was brought
before the Court of Bankruptcy this morning
hut owing the absence OF the plaintiff, Mr. Mclenry,
the case was adjourned TO u future day. Mr.. Train
lical prosecution prompted by the British Government
RELEASE OF FENIAN PRISONERS.
CORK, May l.-MahOny, q Head Center OF the Fenian
organization several other Fenans. who have been
confined in jail here for some time past have been dis
charged from custody and released from all further legal
proceedings by warrant Issued by the Lord Lieutenant
Of ireland.
TIE NEWMARKET EACES-LAST DAY.
LONDON. May 1.-The Newmarket stakes Of 20 sOver-
each. thTecyear Old colts, 10 carry l22 pounds,
Ghcs III pounds mile u yards t2l SubSc'beisli the
Marquis Of Hastings The Ear" walked over