Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1868-04-02
Military Orders 20 Come Through Genera
Grant.
THURepAY. April 2.

Senate to oSder at noon. >
The Chaplain prayed that all that was done
should be done decently and in order; tha,
these Senator'S would appreciate the facs thai
me eyes OF the country and Of the world were
upon them.
The President pro ten. said that no legislative
business was in order, and the Chair would be
vacated for the Chief Justice
The Chief Justice took the chair, and ordered
tne Sergeant-at- Arms to open the Court.
1he Sergeant-at.Arms made the usual proc
lamauon commanding silence
The co unset for the President entered and
took their seats
The Managers Of Impeachment were an
nounced, and following them the House of
Representatives.
The Journal Of proceedings was read hy the
Secretary, Mr.. J. w. Forney
Senator Drake submitted an Amendment IN
the 1th rule to add sson all such Questions the
vote shall be taken without division. unless
the ayes and noes are demanded by one fifth of
the members present, or requested by the pre
siding Off icef when the same shall be taken {" q
Senator Hendricks asked that the proposed
amendment lie over.
Mr.. Stanbery asked to recall Geo. W. Kar-
sener.
MIR. Manager Butler said il this witness WAS
TO be recalled after the examination and cross
examination had been concluded, he must be
called as witness for the respondent, and the
proper time would be when the counsel opened
on their side.
MIR. Stanbery.-Only for a moment
The Chief Justice asked Mr.. Butler il he OBJ
Jec'ed 10 the Tecalln Of the witness.
Mr. Butler replied in the negative.
Geo. w. karsen ner was then recalled.
Mr. Sianbery.-Wsere did you go on the
night you had the conversation with General
Thomas! Al went to the house of nv friend
Mr.. Tanner. Tanner is employed in the War
Department.; don't recollect accompanying Mr.
Tanner to the War Department the next morn
ing.
Odd you go at any time to the War De-
pariment TO see Mr.. Stanton! Al did see
Mr.. Stanton.
D-Did Won co alona, & mae ,,.-os,,.os
TO him by friend.
Z. Who byl A. Mr.. Tanner Had no par.
ucular object in going. In the conversation
some reference was made TO the conversation
with Gen. Thomas; did not receive a note or
memorandum from Mr.. Stanton at that time:
ne dld not give me any directions. Something
was SAID about my be ng examined before the
impeachment Managers.
TIE next witness called was Thos. w. Ferry,
member of the House from Michigan. Wit
ness was AT the War Office on the morning of
the I'D of February, when General Thomas
came there and made a demand for the off &c:
paid attention TO what was going on. and
took memorandum Of the conversation:
have the memorandum with me. The pre-
liminary conversation stated by this wit
NJ IS did not differ materially from that of Y an
Horn and Moorchead Gen. Thomas said ne
did not want to intrude, did not want 10 dis
turb the gentlemen present MIR. Stanton said
there is nothing private here, what do you
Wanti Thomas demanded possession Of the
War Office. Stanton repeatedly ordered him
10 bis room. and Thomas declined to obey. in.
sisting on his nights Secretary of War. STAN
ION asked how Will you get posses ion, do Won
intend 10 use force! Thomas replied, L do not
care TO use force, but my mind is made up TO
obtain possession OF the Office. (At this point
storm of dust swept into the chamber, and
The noise OF the wind overhead rendered il i'm
Cs lille 10 hear the voice of the witness.1 Gen
eral Thomas then went into the Office
Of General Schriver, and command ordering
General Schriyer and General L. ID. Townsend.
Mr. Stanton entered, and told them not to mind
Thomas.
him az Secretary of War, and once more ordered
Thomas to his own room. Thomas again re-
fused, and said he should require the mails of
the War Department TO be delivered TO him
1t became SO dark at tins time that IL was found
Necessary 10 light the chamber.l
Cross-examined by Mr.. Stanbery:-Went into
General Thomas room Immediately after Mr.
stanton; got to the War Office about IL in the
morning; was not there the night before.
Question. Did you hear the order given BY
General Thomas in General Schriver's room.
Answer. (after pause.) Yes, SIR.
General VIM. II. Emory called and sworn,
and examined by Mr.. Butterfly rank is that
OF Colonel Of Cavalry; am a Brevet Major
General of the army, and co mmanding the de-
partment of Washington. Have been IN COM
m"nd Of the Department since September, 1867
Soon after L assumed command of the Depart
nent had conversation with the President in
relation TO the force in the Department and its
disposition.
Mr.. Butter asked that witness should first
state " hat composed the Department OF Wash
ingIon.
Witness answered the District of Columbia.
Maryland. Delaware and Fort Delaware.
The witness was then asked TO detail the
conversation referred 10 which he had with the
President
Witness replied that it would be i'm possible
Tor him to give the con versation entire, but he
could give the substance of ii. The President
asked me 10 state the strength and location of
the troops in the department, and gave hun
the names OF the everal posts and the siren 9Th
OF each, together with the name of the officer
Hnh NOS hat ,hA
stance and import of the conversation with the
President upon that occasion. There was some
further con versation as to whether more troops
ouRht 10 be sent here and kept in the de part
meht. / recommended that more troops should
be Kept here, because II was Gen. Canby's plan
thai there should always be in this department
at least one brigade Of infantry, one squadron
OF cavalry and one battery of artillery, and i
thought more troops should be kept mere in
consequence OF the organization of the military
z. What military forcel A. The force or
ganized by the State government of Maryland
Y. What did you state to the President about
that military forcel A. said i did not see
the object of that organ ization; that drd not
like II and saw no reason for il. stated fur
ther that il was Objectionable an account Of a
portion of the uniform worn. and that it was
onensaye to some OF our people because il was
rebel army.
q. By the offensive uniform you mean the
grayl A. Yes sir. Witness remembers MOTH
ing further upon the subject at that time He
had been sent for by the President for that in.
teryiew. POI =. tf..
Q.-when again did the President send for
youi A.-About the 22d Of February. re.
ceived note from Col. William q. Moore
private secretary OF the Pres ident and an OH.
cer OF the army, informing me that the Presi-
dent desired to have q conversation with me
L nave not that note with me. 1t may be in NV
a. SIX, at my ohice- produced the note before
the committee Of the House Of Representatives
when summoned to testify before them I
have seen the note as copied, and II is a correct
copy.
Mr.. Butler Ito the Presidents counsel.)-May
! use the copy, eeBtlemenl r -fr. ..'l
Mr. StanbeTy saw no objection.
Witness then read the COPY Of the note Of
Col. Moore. aflstj c
Q-How early did you cali upon the Presi-
dentl Al called Immediately, At about mid
q. by senator Conness.-what is the DATE of
that motel As--FebrnAry 22d, 1853.
Q.-Who did you find with the PRESIDENT
Al found the President alone.
Q. State what took place then 7 A. I will
try to state the substance Of the conversation.
but cannot give the exact words. The Presi
dent asked me II i recollected, Q cor versation
had with him when took command ~ the
Department Of Washfugton. told Nm
rpecllected the fact OF the con yersaSion n.
then asked noe what change had been mads in
tie Department, and ! inlormed hin thsi The