New-York tribune., 1868-04-18

regard TO Ireand 1t one OF cancellation. Most OF
acrimony between parties such as honorable gentlemen
who now sit among hardly realize when they are
Of n TsRSn and
members OF different parties who sympathize with
had arrived sen az rssat ssh' Which Sas BEEN most
advantageous for England and for Ireland and that was
tnat we should support policy OF oonclaton-tha we
shod Id far as We could to remove fSs
two religions and the two races more living and direct
sympathy lCheersl have sat upon the bench oppo
which, when was called upon to take leading part in
affairs short time ago. believed right; and have
policy these: ireland, to create and not
cannot strengthen PROTESTANT Interest,". more than by
doing justice to the Roman Catholics Cheers Upon that
Der for Huntingdon Gen Pee in his speech last night
which the House heard with the interest with which
alluded with justihable pride to what he had done
with regard to Roman Catholic chaplans In the The
right honorable gentleman took his spontaneously
and received the entire sympathy OF his colleagues The
proposition with regard TO Roman CATHOLIC ohapains OF
gaols made by the late Secretary for War. The Gov
ernment in very much stress and were opposed by
many gentlemen their own side but we were CONVINCED
that course founded right principles and that
passed not without our assistance aud espe
and power Of my right friend the member for the
County Of Oxford Inever had subject before me whc
reference TO the oaths taken by Roman Catholics but it
brought to satisfactory conclusion, ana greatly Dy
oab % Which with slight alterations was adopted by Par
lament was drawn up by the present Lord Chance9r,
whom no one VIII SUSPECT S 81 b.Se 70 cary
the principle OF conciliatOn nave beeh lhNAlao
encouraged and supported 9y my gns p he Sroneh
forward the proposition for charter fora Roman Chho
with the pricipe we had laid down n ireland create
Protestant interest by being Just to the Roman Cathos
Hear know there arc honorable gentleman who
would take Trinity College appropriate its property and
destroy It's constitution and this IL the way IN WLe
they woAd o0ncate parties and creeds IN Ireland That
Il u
want Of high education among the Roman CathOhe popu
latlo Of Ireland and policy wise one Ihat is
the policy which we have always pursued and that policy
has been pursued By the night honorable gentleman 0ppo
with the integrity and sincerity az by ourselves
And whyg Because long experience and the wisdom OF
statesmen had taught us that that was the policy which
gave chance OF eifecng are nDetween ereeds
and classes and OF putting end TO those sad disasters
which has caused the present unsatisfactory state OF e
ing We have during that time been subjected TO taunts
and nothing is easy as TO say, You do TINS 70 gam
party vote and TO maintain your position Whether III
Opposition or Government that is always the same Dut
those taunts passed by, and had not the slightest
effect upon our course Now look at hs policy a. APP
us. lCheers We have attempted 10 concihnte eretds
and populations; we have endeayored 20 ,iR oIi9s R
about state OF society In which every man would leei
Ireland that he IN possession OF the same oqnay
which lie would enjoy "a ENGLAND And whether mea,
have been passed by ourselves or our opponents
do not think that policy has been unsuccessful Int
what the policy OF the right honorable genemanf e
comes forward TO propose change whleh VIII AZ once
outrage the notwithstanding their dearest sentiments
Of Ireland ICSecrs Year after year we have ehdeav,
ored In this House 10 secure for the Roman Catholics aud
especially for the Roman Catholics IN Ireland the fu ana
free exercise Of their religion am not referring 70 ses
sion Parliament bat long, patient and continuous
policy which pursued even In Opposition although IL
entniled upon us much prejudice aud Misrepresentation
But what does the right honoIa1!e ge.tiein9n pro
in their faith-have they no regard for their
ChurchI (Cheersl Has their history not identified
ess esans Th no sehmenn sGn m fesnr and are they not to
be regarded Cheersl And what are we 20 think OF
the statesman whO having suppose, sanctioned tho
policy which have indicated. comes forward at this mo-
ment 10 introduce TO us not merely measure but poll
prevailed and call into existence all those inyeterae and
hostile passions which place all classes aud both creeds IN
Of strife entirely opposed "a the political tranquility which
a British statesmen should desire 10 promote lChresJ
Lord Derby has been much criticised OF Late years as
measure deficient IN inmate H., t xio IN anS my
determination OF uiat statesman Nhcn You con-
OF ireland with which Lord Derby had TO
deal, must admire the grasp OF that conception.
No doubt tho forty years which have ELAPSED have
brought not only With reference the Church in Ireland
and the Church IN England, but TO many other insttu
ons instructive results. The right honorable member
for Cne said tho other night that there was an nco.
ssency-and NAT was the grayest charge ne brought
against my noble friend Gord stanleyt-between tho
noble lords amendment aud his speech. because he said
he prepared 10 consider an alteration In the status OF
the Church OF Ireland When Lord perby proposed hls
great reformation in tho Church OF Ireland he was op-
posed because IL said he altered tho status oi mo
Church. We, who know better. Know that LOIh Detpy
In that altered tho status OF the Church
myself said the other night, as say now that mink
you might elevate the status OF the uned0wed churches
OF Ireland but don't by the word status hat there
TO be that revolution IN their position which he Teht
honorable gentleman chooses 10 fix upon noble friend
My opinion s this that upon this principle OF concnau0n
In ireland you must create aud not destroy lOn must
take the Church and render IL efficient by the
mova OF circumstances not favorable 10 It's reputation,
G Mond syae to status Of he nendoSed Churches in
Ireland. and terminate the feelings OF antagotin
which exist. Murmurs.l But Sir. the policy which
e. recommended by the right honorable gentleman in
wolves issues In my mind much more important Than the
House 10 consider what would be the effect
Of that policy on tho property OF the country enewed
the importance OF respecting a prescrptIye right
of 800 years / recognize fully that there IL diff
hear but the various hucs between them though they
numerous blend and dangerously blend and II s OF
property that you should deal with II IN manner 80
thoughtful so learned, and so WISE that you should not
endanger the principle OF private property But all that
pass by. shall not stop 10 inquire what effect IL may
effect the principle which IL recommended in Ireland
may upon the estates OF private individuals whose
property has arisen from the punder OF churches be-
eve there abbcys In Ireland and there many In
England cheers and augter that are NO longer enjoyed
by abbots. Renewed cheers, and laughterl ! don't
dwell upon these things. simply remind the House a
general consideration not TO forget them view with
bear because so far as history can guide us have never
found that churches were pundered except 10 establish
or enrich olgarches; and, although II may be very
Liberal 10 attack ecclesiastical Institutions
have never found that the consequences were III favor OF
liberty or enlightened feeling. lHear, hear The prin
eiple Of property we KNOW contested In these days
an not alarmed by IT, because thlnk the principle OF
property may be established on the strongest ana soundes
arguments that human intellect can conceive But OBJ
serve what the proposition regards property which
the right honorable gentleman proposes can under
stand for example, man taking this position: Three
hundred years ago the churches Of Ireland were minis
tered by priests OF Roman Catholic faith ana were
Allied by communicates Of the Roman Catholic creed
You rejected minister's you expelled our congrega
tons to distant part OF the isiandLthe houI mas
the power, we viii regain what we lost ana the
Protestant population aud the ProIeS,uahE mills mn,
tiers shall leave their churches" Well thht
would not Do violation OF property In It's gross
sense TO certain degree, doubt the prlnclpe OF
prOperty would be- outraged but would be yndcated
In much greater degree by the principle OF restitution
lIAughter1 But the right honorable gentleman does
ninr of h Kind lie goes the Church, taxes all us