New-York tribune., 1868-04-18

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as 70 whether he wanted to make long speech or short
sRe9ss S to was he
did not cafe TO make any speech at all: ,,., ha
manifested reluctance now he said anything as TO his
pnrpose In going out should like to have you state it
on,iop Sas TO MAKE short speech when he went out
Q. Did YOU or not hear what he said, or were you IN
RSsitd9n s 50 sHer yG@ with the conee
8. mean after he went QUIT A. heard very ht'ie
Q. Was it large crowd or a small One' A. A large
We're you present far enough the balcony to be
able to state what the demeanor Of the crowd was toward
the Presdenti A heard from the nsde wac not Ion on
the balcony of the hotel at ALL but heard from tne par
o. You remained in The parlors nearly all the time
A. Between the parlor and the diningroom was NOT Oh
&c Crosse xsmined by Mr. BUTLER
O. You met the President at Alton, and you, yourself
as one OF the committee made him an address on board
Sm g 10 tbS committee @ Of Reception from St. Louis
Q. That was made on board the steamer A. nes slr.
mittee made him an address OF wecomei A. Yes, Sir.
o. And after that the President made q response A.
O. And in that address he was listened 70 with particp.
lar attention as his place President A. OBJ
'eSveT TheD yOs vent to the Inden HOt not
O. We'll, the President wenti A. think the carriage
Of The President went to the I4ndell Hotel =, o.
q. And route TO tho Lindell Hotel, ne was es-
corted by procession was he noti A. From the land
@ BY procession OF benevolent socleuesn A. a ry
not recoect what societies they were. II was very
large turnout and perhaps most OF the SOcees OF inc
''3S Were Won AT the Iinderl Hotel az ALI A. Yes
was not there when he arrived at the Lindel Hotel
Were you there when ho wasreeeived oy the Mayor
q. You do not mow whether the Mayor made him an
address Of welcomei A. Only from what SOW In inc
Q: Now, DO you know what the President responded
O. What time Of the day was 1t when he got to the Lin.
deil Hoteli A. II IN the afternoon do not know
what time he got to the hotel for was not present az MS
@ Cannot you tell nearly the tmei A. 1t was prooa-
After that did You 90 with the President from the
Lndel Hotel 10 the Southern Hotel A. do not re-
collect whether accompanied them from ope hotel TO
3. He did 90 from one to the othori A. Yes
r. There was to be banquet for him and his suiT AZ
q At which tSsre was was intended to be speaking 70 lAh
and K There We're to % ssts and S Ef'F
not recOiset the exact hour think SOMEWHERE about
0SoC AZ the time the President va. called ubQpsy the
crowd we're you waiting for the ba6qnetf Whep tls
President was called upon by the Gr1Sd & 40 pGI b tb
committee and citizens
@ The citizeps being introduced 70 hml 4. Yes
G. Did you hear any portion OF he speech on [he Da
cSCsOnay SCs S frSm the inside aid not 90 on the balcony
O. Could you see on the balcony from where yOp we're
SS@a coS S9s se Sa pes pG he stood
q While he was making that speech and ID when 5 ne 10.
nc nor BY snds was there
oony trying 70 get him backi A. can hardly answer
that question as was not there 70 see 90, him "a
A. did not
think Ha hat II Ye could not see could not
Mr. BUTLER-I only want 70 make sure ON that point
WIS s% PS:Ss PSs AS SRGs Rf"k k
the balcony would hold perhaps 200 peoples there we're
q Give mo tGc name Of some Of The 20 yOq can
name anybody who was therei A; ] think Nj howe
q. Was Gen Frank Blair there at any timei A do
q Did the Presdent aiierward make q speech ct the
o. Was the crowd noisy and bosterous onei A.
heard good deal Of noise from the crowd while was
moving about inside.
George Knapp sworn, and examined by Mr.. Curtis.
| q. Where do you reside A. In Sc. louis.
sfors sa and prcpietors Of ne ST. LOUIS RspSSisen
Were yS9 In ss, 81 iSS tT t ss shs Summer Ss o1 Of
o. Were You In tho room where tho President was A.
o. please state what occurred between Presiden,
and crens or committee of citizens ID reference hi'
going out 70 make speech a Tie crowd oq The out
ss, as eaG asI Se SPp and myself We're oseta
The crowd continued 70 call and some one snggested
think was l. that the President ought 10 out Some
further conversation occurred think, between him and
Capt Able. -, .,.r.,
Yes Sir think said TO the President that he ought
70 g out and show himself TO 'Ps BeSP snS @ a. sy u %
walked out together on the balcony ana he addressed
the assembled multitude -, .,o..
large numberi A. don't think got far enough on the
balcony 10 look upon the magnitude OF the crowd
O. About what number Of people were in The balcony
ITSELF A. suppose there was probably from fifteen to
Q. Could yon hear from the erowdf A: could
%6Tt %n e Sos d
ncty my impressions arc that occasionally OF repeated
questions apparently put to the President Go not
Daeta Nartl
O. Was the crowd orderly otherwise 80 far as you
disorderly; but Of that am not very certain.
Cross-examined by Mr.. BUTLER
O. Did you go out the balcony at all A Yes ]
stepped out II wide balcony perhaps u or IS feet u
covers the whole OF the sidewalk stepped out tRnk
dent part Of the time while he was speaking there were
number OF doors aud windows leading ost TO the bal
cony and you could stand in window OF door and hear
O. Did You listen to this speech so that you could hear
sSey syDeseR %eT Rbe i SSq STAYED heTe but whether stayed
there during the whole Of the time do not now reeo-
O. You have told us there 10 10 20 persons on the
balcony. A. That is my impression; am not certain
o. How many persons would the balcony hodi A.
suppose the balcony would hold 100 people. -,
O. Then 10 not at all crowded on the balcony A.
do not recoect whether II not. did not charge
mind nor do % now reeolee the parSrs were @ fai,
pie crowded the balcony TO hear the speech but
ySefl thg balcony vas x9s crowded & Or R2Ii GS 42 lsl
q. Were you present At the time, SO as 70 remember
distinctly when ne said, 81 viii neither be bulied by my
enemies nor overawed by my friendsf" A. do not
recollect that phrase.
o Did this confusion in the crowd sometimes prevent
him did IL mott A. think IL likely that II
did, but am only speaking from my present impression,
6 bid YOU hear him say anything about Judasi A.
No, SIT. do not recolect IT, =. -, =.
O Did you hear him say anything about attending TO
John Bul after whei A. nave no oEceohceuoh VI tno
points OF his speech. . -. - -,
O. So far az you know, and all that you know which
woud be OF advantage TO to hear that you were
present when citizens asked the President 10 go out
and answer the call OF the crowds A. cannot that;
some citizens those present in the paror, esked him.
O. While the banquet was waitingf A; Yes, sir .
81 what time was the banquet to take placer A. i
niA ~ mhs IA thIs nnt 70 hnl A. do NOT rocolect