New-York tribune., 1868-04-06

O. We're you in the Presidents party at St. Lousf A.
O. Did you make export Of any speeches made there
A. reported all the speeches made there.
q. For what paper we're you repOrtingt A was WIN
the party az correspondent for The chicago Republican,
made the report for The 81. Louis Times n,
O. Have you notesof that reportf A. ihaVe part Vi
@. Was there speaking on the steamboats, A. There
O. Did you report mat speeehi A. did.
O. State whether that was an address in reply TO the
swer 10 an address welcome by Capt Leeds who rep
resented "a committee Of citizens who met the party IN
O. How did you mase that reporti a. In shorthand
writing. ..,.., . rr,, oo,,,,
O. How accurate was itf A. Where it purp0rts TO be ae
curate The report was made for ne ~ LOUIS sran
Democratic politics, corrected the INACCURACIES OF gram
O. Have yokince written your poes as far as you
O. Look at this pa ,er and say II it is in your hand
writing from your nots A. 1t is an exact transcrptso
O. Is thai an accurate report Of the speech made by
Andrew Johnsoni A. Its with the exceptions nave
MT, sTANBERY ito Mr Buter,-Is that the steamboat
NE BTTIsRaSO; y is the speech from the balcony of
Witness-The first speech IL the speech at the Linde
Hotel the other is the speech at the Southern Hotel
Mr. BUTLER TO wtaessD.Tase the one at the south
report of that speechi A. II is.
O. Why is IL not all here A. Because have lost part
O. Whereabout did it commencei A. The speech COM
mences in the middle OF sentence IN dhe % hIst words are
under the control and will OF their masters as the coored
who are emancipatedn A.,
Witness ito SeDatOrl-Ths speech was maze at the
Southern Hotel, in St. Louis. ~
q Does the speech then go through as printed A.
O. Have YOU compared the transcript with this paper
The 81 LOius DemOcrdtl A. No, Sir.
Mr. BUTLER offered the transcript as evidence.
Crosse xamined by Mr.. STANBERY:
O. Was your report published A. Yes.
o. In what paper. \. In The ~. Louis Times, on the
Sunday following think the 9th of September.
q How much more time does 1t require shorthand
writer towrte out his notes in long hand than required
i'm taking the hottest A. We general reckon the difference
in the notes between long and shorthand about SIX or
Redirect by Mr. BUTLER-Q Do understand you. TO
say that the whole OF The speech was published IN Inc
q. Was IL condensed for publications. A II was con
O. Was Andrew Johnson a rapid speakers A. Sir John
son IL fluent speaker. hut very lncOnerent one .
a. Does he frequently repeat ms Words A. frequently
he is Pathological. very verbose.
O. Does that enable him be taken with more ease I
o st not in Your experience that there are who
by practice OF lonehand and by Authorizations can follow
speaker '' tbph thew can give the sense OF his
speech without doing hun any Injustice ,
o. How IL II when raken into consideration inter
runtons A The reporter would have to indicate tine
Interruptions he could not write them out.
O. But could be get the sense OF the speaker A. fes
by Mr. sTANBERY-A u longhand writer, yCi say. may
take the and substance Of speech-that s he may
take tho and substance as to his own ideas OF what
they are A. Yes his own view OF what tho speaker Is
ET' BUTTERFLY debating report from the notes 10
another person can be written out much more rapidly
mR ROBERT $. CnEw's TESTIMONY.
Robert z. Chew was sworn and examined by Mr.
O You are employed IN the state Department. A.
@ In vha, capacity A am Chief CLERK in the State
q IsIt part OF your duty TO supervise commissions
that are issued A. commission j. first written out by
person who ia called the Commission Clerk of the De
partEent IL Is brought 10 me and by me sent 10 the
PRESIDENT when IL is returned with the Presidents sig
nature submitted by me 10 the Secretary OF state
Who H. then goes 10 the Commission CLERK
o When commission does not Delong to your Depart
ment, where does goi A. II 1t Is for the Treasury 1t
O. That Is 20 say the commissions OF officers OF the
Treasury are prepared A. yonr DcaI aes sr
,a1,,oS. b9r %hns y" ,Ss o,lst' sisi cd, ,St oA ~.
O. For Secretary and Ass-snts cctary alsof A. Yes,
q After they are prepared they sent to the Treas
q Those belonging 10 your Office are issued from your
object A. They are issued from me department oi STATE
o. Have the kindness 10 tell US whether after the pas
,gs or IN is me Commission Of officers Of your department to
conform 10 That act A. There Was a..
o. What was that changer Tell Us how the commission
ran I'm that respect before, and how II ran after ward A.
The form ot the old comnssi3n was Dilng & tns Peas &
beinc" These words have been stricken ont, ana the
words, Subject to the conditions prescribed " Ia"
o Does that apply to all commissioner A 1t applies
10 all commissions. ,, II, NJ, a..
passage OF the Ciyil Tenure ofOntce act. ,
O. DO your print your commissions on parchment from
a copperplaie formi a. Yer, sir p,
q Vas the copperplate changed 10 cohiorm' a. IL
was. .-... ,,.,. -, oo,,.
missions issued by your department a. We nave, nave
O. Prior the passage OF the act OF March sbI belnS
the Civil Tenure OF Office aetl, state whether ue commits
sions issued to hold oce during the pleasure o me rrs
ident for the time being all Issued In That form
A. They were all Issued In that form.
O. After the change have al the commissions been IS
sued III changed formi A. They nave A.
O. Have such changed commissions been signea oy the
President A. They have.
o. Has there been any other change than what you
have Inc ptioned down TO this day A. None at all.
q Has auy commission whatever to any oreer peen ,.
sent out the department since the passage OF he
act except In that changed formi A. am not aware
O. Could there have been any except by aesiden, with
ont yorr knowing IL : A. Not except 10y accident.
MI BUTLER put the forms OF the commission IN eNi'
dence. ,,,,,,py
o. The old form contained this form, as understand
IL 1.-THE said officer 10 hold ooe daring the pleasure OF
the President OF the United states for the time Dens
O. III These @ words you say, are ef. out A. Yes, Sir
o. And these other words are inserted Subject to the
conditions prescribed by lawP A. Yes, Sir
o. Have you ever changed OF your plates or forms
an a. 10 Introduce place OF what there these words
To hold up removed By the President, with the con
sent oi be se9atels 4; no. Sir ,,o ,.o, a..
naiment dferent from those that issued before the
ienureof once aci A. caonot answer tlat tleie mas
Co. Have YOU separate Plate COX the commissions OF
heads Of departments A. cannot answer that ques'
O. DO you recolect no instances in which any change
has been made there A. No, Sir
MIR BIJTLER- any commission been Issued 10 the
head OF department since March ,, 1861 ~ do not
MIR BUTi.ER-Then, OF course, there Is no change.
Mr. sTANBERY-Of course not 10 the wltnessl-
Bow long have you been Chef Clerk A. since july $500
q ilow long have you been in the ohieei A. Since
July, 1884. =, -. , . ". Cir
q That Is you have been there 80 years A. Yes Slr,
q In all that time before this change az commission,
for the time beingr A. Yes, Sir .
M ' BIpTI ER|Dc you know Mr.. seward's handwrit
ingf A. Yes, Sir
o. r. this latter signed by hlmf A. II is.
Mr nJjTIR IRR-I offer now in evidence "A list, prepared
by the Secretary Of state and sent 30 the Managers O hl
the appointments aud removals OF officers as t9ey appear
I'm tbe state from the beginning OF the GOV