The New York herald., 1868-04-04

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notes. A. It Is.
when Scrs e Of Tss
Wness by direction Of Me- Butler placed his initials
cross-exsmined by Mr.. EvARrs:-
O. Yo1 have produced note book of lengthy
stenographic report Of speech Of the President Is
IL tne whole speechs A. Yes 1t is Of the whole
q Was the report wholly made by your A. Yes,
Q. How long did the speech occupy in the deliv.
eryY A. suppose some twenty or twenty-five
Q. BY what method Of stenographic reporting did
you proceed on that occasionf A. By Ptman's sys-
not by sense A. We report the sense BY the sound.
e Understand you report by sound onyf A.
O. And not by memory of or attention to the sense
A. No good reporter report unless he pays atten-
tion to the sense, and understands what he is report
Q. State whether you were attending to the sound
and setting 1t down In your notation attending to
the sense and setting 1t downfom your attention to
Q. Your characters are arbitrary, are they not
that L. they are peculiar to yoGs :ss: A. Yes, sir.
2. They are not letters9 A. No. sir.
Q. Nor wordss A. We have some word signs.
Q. This transcript which you made Of pOrtpn Of
tne report fSr & the use Of the committee was made
Q. What in the practice Of your art Is the expert
ence aS to the accuracy Of trauscribing by steno-
of timer A. viii give you an illustration. When
was called before the Managers did not knoy rnut
was wanted with me. and when they told me toAam
10 my report OF the PRESIDENTS speech found 1t I'm
my book and read out at their request the extracts
which they desired me to copy.
Yes. The reporters for the Managers took it down.
and afterwards wrote 1t out.
q DO you make SIGN for every word' A. Al
most every word, except that we sometimes drop
particles.
: Q. You have signs which belong to every word,
excepting When you drop tile particles. A. Yes,
O. But not, as matter of course. sign which is
the representative Of whole word. A. We have
some signs representing whole words.
O. For the word Jurisprudence you have no one
sign 81 that represents It'll A. No sir; should write
Q. And that is an Illustration Of the proceeding
A. Yes sir.
Counsel examined attentively the notes of the wit.
ness, and seemed to De apparently satisfied.
TESTIMONY OF J. o. CLEPHANE.
James o. Cephane was sworn and Examined by
Mr. BUTLER -
O. What Is your busiuessY A. I am at present
Deputy Clerk OF the Supreme Court OF the District Of
August, 1862 A. was then Secretary Of Governor
Seward Secretary Of State.
9 Are you phonographic reporteri A. am.
Q. How considerable has been your experience 2
A. Eight or nine years.
Q. We're you employed on the 18th Of August to
make report OF the Presidents speech In reply to
Mr.. Reverdy JOhnsonS 4. was; was engaged In
connection with Mr. Smith for the Associated Press
dS Da !"s You e make R tas repots a. aa
O. Where was the speech made A. In the East
Room Of the White House.
O. Who was present? A. There were good
many persons present; noticed General Grant and
several other distinguished gentlemen.
Q Were any OF the Cabinet officers presentf A.
Q. md you report that speechs A. I did.
Moore the Presidents private secretary desired the
privilege OF revising 1t before publication, and in
dan and myself united in the labor Of transcrbng:
Mr.. sheridan transcribed one portion, Mr.. Smith and
third ,,. After It was was rcseixsd S by Colonel Moore
Associated Press, who took 1t and elegraphed 1t over
o. Look at that roll of manuscript before you and
say If 1t is speech Of which you transcribed por-
tion. A; do not recognize % any Of my handwriting
portion to long hand writer.
q. Who was present nc the time of wrftng9 A.
Mr.: smith Mr. sheridan ana ooiOnei MOorv' Har as
O. DO You know Colonel Moore's handwritingf
o. Did you send your report to the Chronscles A.
Mr.. MacFarlane, who had engaged me to report for
the ChyOnicle was unwilling to take the revised
speech and desired to have the speech as delivered
or, he stated, with all the imperfectiOns and as
he insisted on my rewriting the speech did So 1t
the 18th. TIL "
q. Have you copy Of that paper' A. have not.
Morning chronicle did you see itf A. did. 1 ex::
amned It very carefully. had curiosity to see
how 1t would read under the circumstances, being
literal report with the exception, perhaps Of word
changed here and there.
Q. How do you means A. When the word used
would evidently obscure the meaning made the
change, although perhaps / would not be able 10
point IL out just now.
O. with what certainty can you speak with refer.
ence to the Chronicle report being accurate OneP
A. think can speak with certainty as to its being
an accurate literal report, with the exceptions I
have named; perhaps there Is word or two changed
here and there.
Q. Give US an illustration of that change. A. Ny
matter matter. Some Correspondent, I M learning thai the
Chronicle had published q verbatim report had
H. and he wrote to the Chroni-
sion used by The President. 'You and has sought,n
or something OF that kind that evnresson; Of course,
was corrected In the report wroJe out.
MrsBUTLER here stated that he was informed that
there were two manuscript copies In the telegraph
Office and that Mr. Tinker had given him the one
which was written out at length as duplicate and
not the original manuscript a. he had supposed.
He wouIn therefore. ,.ye to bring him In again. and
he woud send for hin.
O. You were acting In the employment OF TIE
Associated PressS A. Yes, sir, In connection Win
q. You were jointly to make a report9 A. No; we
were 10 report the entire speech each of US, and We
divided TO save the labor OF transcribng.
q. Did you take phonographic notes oI the wnole
speech? A. did. .
O. where are your phonographic notes' A.
have looked for them and cannot find them.
O. AZ any time after YOU had completed the phono.
graphic notes did you translate or write them out
&C o. The wholef A. Yes, the whole speech.
D. Where Is that translation or written manu-
soriptY "a I do not know; the manuscript, OF
coarse was left ut The Chronicle Office. wrote II out
| In full for tie Chronicle. .
o. Have you never seen 1t snce' A. have nc.
q. Have you made any search for itf A.. i have
| not.
And these two acts Of yours the Photographed
report and the translation writing out Is all that
| You had to do with the speech7 A. That IL all.
q. You say that subsequently you read news
paper copy OF the speech In the washington Cnoni-
ctep A. did.
O. When was II that you read that newspaper
copyS A. on the morning OF the publication, Sun
day morning August 10.
q. Where were you when you read itS A. read
| o. ne was from that curiosity that you had A.
read il more carefully because OF that.
| q. Had you before you your phonographic notesy
J or your writing transcribed from themf A. had
not. -.
newspaper copy OF the report a. No, sir.