The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1868-06-13

>a-u 10 tR amendment OF MI PhlllpS. ana that tht
item read Police of Honolulu and other parts O
Oahu"
amendment put and carried, and item passed Al
$37,6S0.
Police Maui, 81 ,644-passed.
Police Hawaii, S~9,S46-pasSei.
Police Kauai, SS,145-passed.
Incidentals Police Service, 81 ,000-passe.
Assembly adjourned
Forty SEVENTH DAY, June IL.
Assembly met at the usual hour, President Keku.
anaoa in the chair.
Mr.. Hutchinson gave notice of several bills which
he intended to introduce.
Mr.. Lyons inquired of the Chairman of the Enroll.
ment COMMITTEES if there were any bills to report back
to the House.
Gov. Dominis, Chairman of the Enrolment Com.
mittee, reported that there were not any bills as We,
signed by His Majesty ready to present to the House.
On motion, the House proceeded to the order of the
day, which was an Act TO encourage ocean steam
navigation.
Mr.. Phillips moved that the bill be read by its title.
Mr.. Hitchcock moved that the bill be read through
out.
Mr.. Nahaku moved the previous question.
Motion TO read the bill throughout lost.
Motion to read the bill by its title carried.
Bill read by its title.
Mr.. Phillips moved the passage of the bill.
Mr.. \. f. Judd moved as an amendment that the
act becomes a law after the ratification of the Reel
procity Treaty between these Islands and the United
States MIR. j. spoke of the expense of the treaty to
this Government, and the importance of its passage
to this group in the way of an impetus to trade, agri-
culture and every enterprise in general, which would
enable the Government to meet its large expenditure
in aiding the new steam line.
MIR. Phillips hoped the amendment would not be
adopted, rs he was afraid it would do mischief: and
moreover, if the treaty was ratified, it would have to
be acted upon by the Privy Council before it became
a law. The fate of the treaty might be settled, and
yet it would be some time before the papers were ex-
changed before it became a law. He thought the
Privy Council could be most safely trusted with the
matter, and hoped the bill. would not be loaded down
with any such amendments.
Motion for the previous question put and carried.
The amendment of MIR. \. F. Judd was lost by a
vote of "a noes to 10 ayes.
MIR. Wilder moved to amend the first section so as
to make the passage in ten days from port to port,
instead of twelve as in the bill, and spoke in regard
to the amendment.
The Vice President said that through some mad
vertency, he had made a mistake in allowing the
amendment of Mr.. Wilder to be made but as it had
been made and spoken to, he would leave he matter
TO the Ministers and the supporters of the bill and
if they We're willing, the debate should go on.
MIR. Wilder thought it was rather funny, when he
was assured that amendments were in order by the
Vice President himself, and then to have the previous
question sprung upon him he did not understand.
MIR. Lyons said that the previous question was on
the amendment, and not on the bill, and that debate
and amendments were, accorf ing to his opinion, per-
fectly in order.
MIR. Hitchcock sustained MI. Lyons.
The Chair spoke to its ruling, and sustained itself.
MIR. Hitchcock appealed to the House from the de-
cision of the Chair.
MIR. Phillips supported the ruling of the Chair.
Mr.. c. III. Judd argued against the ruling of the
Chair. as the Chair upon the second reading of the
bill told the House that upon the third reading of q
bill amendments and debate were in order, and the
Chair upon one occasion declined to put the previous
question, as the matter at issue had not been sufh-
GENTLY discussed, and anne down from the chair and
spoke himself in regard to the measure before putting
the question.
The Chair replied that then he claimed his right as
a member of the Assembly to speak, before putting
the question.
Mr.. Koakanu argued in favor of the ruling of the
Chair.
Mr.. Nahaku said that he moved the previous ques-
ton, and he put the question in regard to both the
and the bill itself.
Mr.. A. +. Judd said that the previous question
moved by MIR. Nahaku was on his amendment, and
the question for ayes and nays was taken upon his
which was enough to convince hum that
the previous question regarding the passage Of the
bill, had no force and moreover, the Chair had in
formed the House that amendments were in order on
the third reading, and he could not understand the
motives Of the Mobiles in endeavoring to shut up the
Representatives. ~
MIR. Varigny said that it seemed queer to him that
these amendments should be reserved till to-day,
when the opposers of the bill were not certain
they could bring forward these amendments
on the third reading of a bill, and asked the Chair
such was not in order after the vote on the second
reading of the bill, and asked the last speaker if ne
knew cf these amendments when the vote on the Sec
ond reading was taken.
Mr.. a. F. Judd replied that they knew it was in
order, but asked the opinion of the Chair, in order to
make Sc assurance doubly sure
Mr.. Wilder said that he himself asked the Vice
President before the vote was taken whether amend
ments and debate would be in order on the third
reading, and the Vice President told him yes. Mr..
denied the assertion made by Mr.. Varigny.
The Chair, before putting the question, read an
extract from Cushing's Manual Up. 46, 25) in regard
to the previous question.
Mr.. Nahaku got up to argue in favor of his motion,
when he was ruled out of order, as he had already
the Assembly twice. Mr.. Nahaku was re-
luested several times by the Chair TO take his seat.
The Hon. member refused to, as he had only spoken
to the ruling of the Chair. The member finally
latter many orders from the Chair) took his seat.
The Chair stated that the matter of MIR. Nahaku
lad passed out of his hands, and was now before the
House. |
Mr.. Hitchcock moved that the member just seated
~ the Chair be allowed to speak again. Motion car
led.
Mr.. Nahaku rose and spoke again in favor of the
'uling of the Chair, as in his opinion no detraction
the rules had been made by him, and that he
hould vote for subsidy without any amendments
Mr.. Lyons said as he at present understood the
question to stand, he should vote in sustaining the
of the Chair.
The appeal of Mr.. Hitchcock against the ruling of
he Chair was put and lost. Chair accordingly sus-
aimed.
The question on the third passage of the bill to en-
ourage ocean steam navigation was put and carried
" the following vote:
Ayes-Messrs. Nahaolelua, Kanoa, Bishop, DOM
Kanaina, Kalakaua. Kamakau, Kahanu, Hutch
Varigny, Phillips, Kumahoa, Keliipio, Jones,
'akila, Nahaku, kalu, Rhodes, Makalena, keawe-
unahala, Mahelona, Koakanu, Kaukaha-23.
Noes Messrs. Lunalilo, Ii, Hitchcock, Upa, Lyons,
Halemanu, Pilipo, C. H. Judd, Martin,
Hopu, Kaiue, Wood, Boyd, A f. Judd,
Wider, Knudsen-17.
MIR. Phillips assured the members of the Assembly
the greatest care would be taken on the part of