New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1868-04-11

understood that the other people were giving $500 too
O. This was simply rumos You heard you do not know
Of any money being pad A No, SIR that was SIMPLY
O. Did you hear from anybody having charge Of the
Erie Railroad bill that any money was being paat a.
had nothing TO do with it, so that could say any,
about IL. a., 60.
tine time this money was talked Of dld you
that he would vote where the money wasl A. did not
money he wanted get IT. do not know that there was
ANYTHING said about votes ne SAID am poor or some
n Did YOU draw differences as TO how he wOud act In
case money was paid A. He said If there was any
Bid Won understand from his actions or conversa-
tion that he wOud vote whore the money was A Yes,
tScTe was The most money He said he understood
there was no money the Erie side, and said under,
stood that too had heard that they offered money ana
made pIedgos but that they had no money. knew
nothing about the money except the runners Oh oe
street heard Il from one Interested IN either Iohu,
Nv Mr. Dayton-Q. DO you know Of any moneys being
paid on either side to obtain votes for me ssas VI %
BIN A. To my knowledge have nothing 10 40 WIN "
any more than what the rumor Is - ,oo,., .
g Were Won ever authorized 20 pay any money! a;
No SIP. never had any. and could not he huthoiIleu
because had nothing to do with It; was on te i Fly
side all the time that is, expected 10 DC on '"o '
nv the Chairman: O. You say yon did this for the
purpose of doing favor to Mr. Frear A. Yes sr W'1
the Erie side or e%peetec 70 ~ On op mar SIDE
O. Did any conversation pass between you "no WI
Fresr in presence Of Mr. Glenn a no on do from the
bose ont 70 see YOU ana go back A. think only once
bur
posifiyeIy: / was busy about thing aud another;
cannot say positively That qua mol see mn hat
Mr. Frear together that morning ana DO NOT o" 'N'
ever did at any time, In fact. a.. - 49,. ,d o,v.
By Mr. Iasler q. Are you positive yon never had any
conversation with Mr. Frear in relation 10 now MI SehI
would vote on tins bill A. am perfectly posien ,ara
never had any conversation with MI fIear Hny nolo
than with you knew him the same as kne" tha' your
o. Did YOU ever have any conversation with him in re-
s11l Are AZ I'VE yos positive Of that A. am positive
e. Did You ever have any c0ny ersalioh WIN mn aoo
AZ M Sir fOpT
know Mr. Glenn, and never knew Glenn myself before
that morning. never spoke TO him TO 10 lor MY own
By Mr. Anis--Q Did you over tell Mr.. Glenn that you
would send member to hun from the nooI WHO NO TUu d
A. No, Sir; that the time spoke about the MEMBER
him members who in favor OF both sides OF the b
aud named him over number Of members.
Q. What sou 10 send him those members FOR! A.
q. You were simply sending him members who We're
interested that he might make his own inquriesi A.
o. When SIR Frear came out, did he nod to youi a.
Not that know of going over to the other side OF
fine cloak-room: sent him word that Mr. Glenn wanted
to sec him. in word two three times and be-
leve answer came ont that he was engaged or some
thing OF that kind: when he came out there was man
ON the west nde OF the hail, IN the cloakroon that
wanted 70 see but just as he came ON was GONG over
there and when turned around ala not see anything
OF either OF thtih
- Was Mr. Glenn ont one OF two times A. tie went
IN once to my knowledge, because he sad 10 me, lh
man hasn't come ont yet;" said NO, but guessed
he veuld be out sJon then nc went H. and IN Few min
tes he again. and he was around theIe again
o. HON long after you sent first for Mr. Frcar until the
time when he came out A think IL must nave been
o. How far was you from Mr. Frear when he came QUIT
A. / was not far from him; l had spoken TO Glonn q
minute before and was pretty near NM that was on
he on side OF the building and when was going tothe
west side Just was going across went iGht PAS
him. because the hole OF the room Is only few Feet
q Is The habit Of laIes EsTo you are 'eTes's ~
esed in and assist them in those bills, am notify te
OF your assistance as to put them under on.haonl a.
Yes Cir, II You can do So e. is IL customary ~
find ont how members are g0ug 10 Folc Oh l "n u
resent NAT you control s votes A. No, ST.; but u
know certain members Who are intefeste III ollls' anu
can DO them favor. expect them 10 recpIOeatc dud
plgce thGn under obligation in tlat Way -. .o
o. l. In not customary 20 represent that YOU have con
troed vote IN that way, when you have SIMPLY i0und
out that person Is going to vote IN c'Lt" W.! n,
No. sir. but II MIR. llear had suScesusu ia SslIDs ~,
Glenn 10 vote for that BILL after he had got theusU VIZ
bin would have SAID to nm thar Po1e b 10 bongbt
that was the right side 70 vote ana got ms wore thVu
say TO hu, now have done you ia!or an; anu III noi
YOU Will withdraw our opposition 20 Iat Ltt' III, ~
mine lot that would say controlled MS yoe uhietS
ne was personal friend Of niue, but simply That used
my influence IN explaining the mater 10 hH 70 na '
finally he would say guess you are ABOUT Hsn'' "Lu
%, Then You know nothing Of yOur own knowledge
about money being used, except by the mere rnoi 81
the Streets a. No Sir; know uothing OF my own
@ Did YOU have any idea that When you scnt for Mr.
money A. / did not know he told me that lie wanted
money did not know whether there money IN the
that he knew on that side, and sent for Mr.. lrear did
not know Mr. Glenn MI Frear, a. Tar as my personal
have the House bin in which interested referred
TO the Judiciary Commtee to report complete IN fissi
he opposed to the BILL else he would not have madI
the motion. -.
GET his support Tor your bill a. Yes, Sir.
Evidence OF MR.. ALEXANDER fREAR.
psm5ep of Assembly from New-York city "A Yes s
o. You supposed TO be the person referred TO ia h
betWeep YOU and Mr. GeSn on the 2 DAY Of March,
E S1n by saying That had never up to ina
time spoken one word 10 M, 1len ~
OF any KIND socially , MOI wHbateTer thai IL" morning cam,
into the House and took my seat boy came TO me an(
rened am busy and cannot see Mr. Glenn" then, il
perhaps fifteen twenty minutes AFTER MT Mnfpny h'
member OF the House, came 70 me anu salu a NJ ~
room - remarked 10 him that was busy nc askec
what word he should take 10 him. and replied TO the
p, .. Did he tell you what Mr Glenn wanted A. No
Sir Then In about IS minutes after "a short Inel boy
came 10 me said that Mr. Glenn was in the cloak
and wanted 70 see me; Then went ont ana met MI
voting 10 sustain the report Of the Railroad COngttee
told him no; that was very anxious 10 nave inc report
OF the Committee sustained and far WAS concerned
ala not think that this Legislature could AFFORD TO pass
bill of that kind, referring 10 the flc DliI nc hcn pc
gan to say that had talk with Mr. Lewis and at that
nont turned around and left saying, then 20 talk
10 Mr. Lews,"I went in and took my sent; was not
o. Did Won ever have any conversation with Mr. Lewis
I'm regard to the passage OF any bill in this llouse A.
do not think ever said 30 words to Mr. Lewis since
have been in Albany for three years. ,
o. Have YOU had any conversation with him In regard
TO- fbffpassage of the Erie bill A. No, SIR.
Q. Did you know what Mr. Glenn wanted when he sent
for youi A. did not know.
O. WHY ala You take such an interest in the defeat Of
this Erie bin a. am broker and have considerable
connection with brokers In New York, and II can know
in advance whether bill OF that nature is likely 10 pass
or be defeated. in either OF It's success or defeat
can make great deal OF money; had several brokers
that teegraphed TO 10 know about the prospect Of the
Bill, basing their operations what / told them.
@. Mr.. Glenn swOTe that y0u told him that whatever
M Lewis said would be Ilght-dO you remember any
such remark that 4. No. Sir.
Q. You did not know that Mr.. Lewis had offered him
Ma