The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1868-05-19

put outside OF that believe him to be an upright
knew the President had not had the opportunities Of
education enjoyed by the Senator from Massachu.
come into the world with their souls lighted up with
the stamp o.. of So sl,d and honesty
with the responsibility for the diiferences
between the President and Congress that
SO SnS e S he de-
report OF General Grant as embarrassing docu-
ment." That Senators had never let slip since an
opportunity OF denOuncng the President. Mr.. DOo-
little referred to the action OF religious conference
in Chicago wherein upon receiving information that
there had been corrupt practices in the Senate OF
the United States, the conference resolved 10 hold
day OF fasting and prayer upon the subject OF
the corruption OF senators. ne saa TO .ose VINO
TO speak of corruption IN connection with It's men,
beers, and he thought when such subject was IN
subject for the Senate To consider. He. therefore,
thought they should have explanation from the
House In relation TO that resolution.
Mr.. YATES, nep) OF ILL., said the House Of Repre-
sen'a'ives being party TO this proceeding OF
failed to take cognizance of any evidence that COR
ruption had existed in connection with the trial.
Would the Senator say that district attorney prose-
cut'ng case, who learned that corrupt or Illegal
means were used to influence the decision OF
cause OF great Importance to the country, would
10 an Investigations The party that had
been so eOquently alluded 10 could not be
Vindlcated by obsLructing an investigation. He
would not follow the Senator Wisconsin in his
argument, but he would not, as the apologst of
nor to censure coordinate branch ofthe government
Tor undertaking one. Tic air was fun OF runora
lie not here to assert the truth of the runors
of bribery, or to say that inordinate ambition had
Influenced Senators, but he felt that they should not
| rest until every one was eXcupated from these
charges.
| Mr.. DIXON thought it would be better to ask the
House OF Representatives to forward to the Senate
any evidence in their possession on this subject for
| the purpose OF investigation by the Senate. lie
utterly despsed and condemned such charges against
| men whom they all knew To be above such things.
They had allowed one OF the Managers to dare them
TO acquit the President; they had allowed an edi-
nor act hem tSey w allowed eways "e
on the floor to inde abusive articles against the
Senate, while he Dixon could not get the Governor
OF his own State on the nOor and now he hoped they
would examine this matter.
| Mr.. HARLAN could see necessary improperly in
the action OF the House, nor connection between the
| request or the resolution He hoped they would
give the certed copy of the record before they adj
| jOurned.
M. CoNKLrNG, rep.) of N. Y, differed in opinion
| from the Senator. He thought there connection
t the request ana the resolution
House would lay before the Senate any evidence it
might obtain might be sufficient; but another cQnsd-
Grafton that the land rings with grave and pol
| luting mputations on Senators, and he hoped that
every man might be afforded an opportunity to make
good any insinuaOns he has made. II would be re-
membered thai the Senate had reached out It's and
seized the correspondent OF u newspaper who had
| soilcd the name OF Senator putting upon him a de-
| grading punishment. 1t would be an interC sting
question when the time comes what to do with those
who have dampened the whole air with accusations;
but II they turn out to be the product OF the heat of
RIGHTEOUSNESS OF lawessness OF this time they would
loudly call upon somebody to see 60 1t that steps be
taken to teach the world that Judgment by member
OF either body did not authorize any one 10 throw
| upon him all the filth prompted by ncllnaon. His
feelings In regard to this matter did not come alto
| gciher from this time. He had been present in the
| other House when from malicious motives outsiders
had seized upon some period OF excitement to strike
! at particular persons and attempt to alX upon them
| some stigma which should last If any doubts eX-
isted of the jurisdiction OF the House in this matter,
he thought 1t should be reserved in favor OF the
House for the purpose OF this investigation, at least
until some clear invasion Of the privileges Of the
| Senators takes place.
Mr. DAVIS, (dem.) OF KY, to speak, but yielded
to Mr.. SpRAGuE, (rcp) OF x. l., who moved to al
jOurn, which was not agreed to.
MI SUMNER moved that when the Senate adjourn
IL be TO Thursday next
This was agreed tO--yeas 16, nays IA.
Mr. DAVIS opposed the pending resolution to fur
nsh to the House certified copy of the proceedings
OF the Senate on the impeachment articles OF the
| mentary rule that when anything happens directly
| relative tn member Of either House which affects
the other House, the House III possession OF the in
| formation makes communication to the House OF
which the gentleman Is u member in order that
House Ia in possession OF any Information tending TO
| incupate any Senator sitting in the senate "a u
member of the court il is the duty of the House to
| take such action rs 1t may think proper. The Sen
ate for these reasons ought not TO take notice Of
the resolution further than 10 lay 1t on The table.
In abiding to the remarks OF Mr.. ConkIin, he
| said that If every newspaper in the lend
| ne would fold his aud treat them with silent
| contempt The Senator from massachusetts (Mr.
| Sumner) the other day denounced the Pr sdent Of
the United States in strong terms That Senator was
| q member Of the Court OF impeachment and the
President was under trial before that court and was
presumed by law and by reason to be innocent until
| his guilt was established by proof. During the de-
bate the adoption OF the constitution OF the United
States IL was proposed that President be tried
suppose that was the practice now and
tine President was entity and had besides denounced
him as a member of this court dds He would ask
the Senate whether the Chief Justice would be tOer
| ated for moment for his indecent and outrageous
| conduct2 The Impeachment OF the Chief Justice
| IN such case would be demanded II ever a
member Of u court meried Impeachment and the
condemnation and scOrn OF the world 1t would be
the Chief Justice so acting and expressing himself
He mr. Davis could see no difference between the
culpabe and execrabe conduct OF the Chief Justice,
and that of the denuncatons OF the President by the
| Senator from Massachusetts, He thought the Sena-
| tor deserved richly, and ought to receive the
tence of expulsion from the Senate Of the United
| States
| Mr. DOOLITTLE offered a resolution as substitute
| for the one now pending, that the House OF Re.
| personalities be requested to furnish to the
Senate any information which has come to the
House or the Managers relative TO alleged i'm.
proper or corrupt means used to influence
the impeachment, in order that the Senate may
take proper action thereon. Mr.. Doolittlc thought
the Senate would make great mistake II IL submit
ted for instant to the proposed examination by the
House. The independence Of this body requires that
| 1t should take care of It's own members Such care
| was In It's own keeping. II such influences as
was intimated had been used, 10 was FOR
| the Senate to examine into the matter,
| and not the House at all. Hence he had submitted
his resolution. He spoke with no disrespect to the
House. but all know the tendency OF large bodies 10
encroach on the smaller. As matter or comfy he
would 20 as far az any one but nc would not consent
TO giving the information in this case when the men
who intimate wrong conduct on the part OF Senators
propose themselves to inquire into the facts. There
were other things be examined into by this body
as TO corrupt proceedings to influence this body aud
which might 20 outside OF this particular case. The
world knew that from that city OF Washington tee
grams had been sent over the country to denounce
Senators az recreant TO their trust "A direct
apneal from the court TO the mob In order
to influence its observation-disclosures, mob law
TO govern and control the courts az well as legisa-
tive bodies II would be day OF sorrow aud an
ouish TO US all If such appeals were tolerated and
sent broadcast over The land to manufacture public
opinion for the purpose of influencing Senator's
Hence threats Of assassination and personal vio-
Ience and intimidation In every form. He could
speak with some feeling, and could speak ON his