The Wheeling daily register. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1864-1878, 1868-04-04


which was taken in the same way.
Re-direct-There were many inter
ruptions and pauses.
Mr.. Batler.-Then the President and
the crowd were bandying epithets'
Objected to and the question With
drawn.
Mr.. Butler then asked what the
crowd said and told witness he might
refresh his memory by the men oranda
before him,
Mr.. Evarts objected that a newspa-
per was not a memorandum.
The objection was argued by Messrs.
Butler and Evarts.
Chief Justice ruled that the witness
might refer to q newspaper copy II he
knew it to be correct.
Witness proceeded AID read an ex-
tract narrating the Interruptions which
enabled him to write out portions OF
what the President said verbatim.
Cross-examiued-TOok down what the
crowd said, and at the same time
caught up with with my report of what
the President said. The accounts of the
interruptions which have just been
given, were all read by me from the pa
per before me.
ID. c. McEwen, short hand reporter,
testi6ed-I accompanied the President
and party as reporter for the World.
The witness produced stenOgrapical
report of the Cleveland speech, and also
a copy of an accurate transcript of the
report written out and handed it to the
Agent of the Associated Press. The
witness put down portion of the in
terrupti0ns; it was impossible to get all.
There was q great deal of neise and
confusion. | think there were express
sions of ill-feeling or temper on the part
of the crowd. The President was lit
tie excited, aud the crowd said, Don't
get mad, Andy"
Mr.. Butler-Did he appear cOnsidera-
bly, excited thenS
Mr.. Evarts-That is not part of the
present inquiry.
Mr.. Butler-The allegations deny
there was scandalous and disgraceful
scene, the conditions being that the
counsel for the President claim freedom
of speech and we claim decency of
speech. We are now trying to show
the indeccncy Of the occasion.
Mr.. Evarts-I understand freedom of
speech to mean liberty to speak properly
and discreetly.
Mr.. Butler-I regard freedom of speech
in this count Y as the Freedom Of the
private citiz.u to say anything in de-
cent manner.
Mr.. Evarts--Yes, it is something, and
who is to judge of the dccGncyl
Mr. Butler-The court before which Il
man is tried for violation of the laws.
Mr. Evarts--Did you ever hear of a
man being tried for freedom of speech
Mr.. Rutler-NO; but | saw two or
three that ought TO have been.
Mr.. Batter repeated the question to
the witness, who said: | could not see
the Presidemt-only heard the tone OF
his voice; he seemed excited; | do not
know what is his manHer, from personal
acquaintance, when he is angry.
On crOss-cXamination the witness said
he left before the speech ended, besides
certain sentences were broken off by the
Interruptions of the crowd; only took
the principal ordinations; could not
hear all of them; the transcript of the
speech here was made two weeks ago
from the notes oftwO years ago; think
them as accurate as iftranscribed then.
Edwin b. Stark was examined by Mr..
Butler-Was formerly short hand re-
porter; reported the speech of the Pres.
ident at Cleveland on the night of the
Sd of September, 1866, for the Cleve-
land Herald, in short haNd; it was pub
lished; the notes are not now in exist.
ence; suppose they were thrown in the
waste basket; 4 copy of the paper W as
produced; witness said in some places
the substance was given instead of the
literal words; he read from a part of
the report Just what johnson said {:
"Where is the man living or the woman
in the community who have wrOnged,
or where is the person who can place
their finger on one single pledge that !
have violated, or one single violation of
the Constitution of my country; what
tongue does I've speak! What religion
does he profess? Let him come forward
and put his finger upon one pledge l
have violated" Witness continued {:
there were then Interruptions, and va
rious remarks were then made, OF
which | have noted one, because 1t was
the only one Mr.. johnson paid any at
tentien to; that was voice, "Hang
jeff. Davis;' the President said: "Hang
JEFF. Davis; hang jeff. Davis; why don't
you I" there was then some applause
aud interruptions, and he repeated,
"Why don't you p there was again APP
plause and Interruption, and the PreSi-
dent went on, "Have you not the
Courti Have you not got the Courtsi
Have you not got the Attorney Gen
erall Who is your Chief Justice who
has refused to set trial." there were
then some Interruptions and applause,
and he said: Il am net the Prosecuting
Attorney; / am not the jury; but / will
tell you what did do; l called on your
Congress, which is trying to break up
the government-here were Interrupt
tions and confusion and there may have
been words uttered by the President
which / did not hear; l think not-then
the President went on to say "But let
the preiudices pass"
Mr.. Butler-Go to the conclusion
where you reported Accurately.
HWitness, commencing n little before
before where the specifications CON-
mence: He says, I'm bidding you fare.
well here tonight would ask you with
all the pains that Congress has taken to
calumniate and malign me, what has
Congress donei Has it done ANYTHING
To restore the Union of the States I
But TO the contrary, has it not done
everything to prevent iti and
because / stand now as
did when the rebellion commenced, l
have been denounced as a traitor. NV
ceuntrymen here tonight: Who has
suffered more than II Who has run
greater risks than II Who has borne
more than l : But Congress, factious,
dsmineering, tyrannical Congress, has
undertaken to poison the minds of the
American people and create feeling
against me-" So far were Mr.. Johnson's
words. Witness completed the sen.
tence in this fashion: "Iu consequence
of the manner in which l have distribu.
ted the public patronage" Those were
net Mr.. Johnson's words, but a conden-
sation in q summary way, for the rea-
sons which he gave at that point for
the maligning.
Mr.. Eyarts to Mr.. Butler-Do Won
propose to put them all inf
Mr. Butler-We do; observe in the
opswar af tina prasident that nhiaction