The Hawaiian gazette., 1868-05-13

witness 70 the fact that it teok long time to
reach tia, age. ThcE there was large num-
Der Of horses belonging 60 no enc. making
pruhzhly ever 60. coo. naurs horses than pe0-
pie. These horses cat up all the vegetation.
Now. Is Il net proper that there should be some
legislation &c do away with this great nuisance.
The opinion to be derived from all this was.
that dne delieeratien should be used before
our decision. II the motion Of the Hon. Vice
President to postpone passed. then the mem
her for waialua eoald make hew motion.
Mr.. Wilder said he would support this bin
without any amendment. on the ground that
IL WAS the universal wish of the people. and
it Was the only tax that could be well reduced.
As there must he Inc drawn somewhere. he
made the amendment 50 as TO exempt those
who paw pcll tax, as that was the tax that
should he exempted But he would withdraw
his amendment 50 that the minister, women
and blind men can be taxed.
Mr.. Reyd said he would support the bin
with his amendment. II was = mistake that
his amendmen, worli exclude the poor from
the benefits Of the law. Very few of this
class of people have horses under two years
Of sge.
Mr. Lyons said he was much obliged TO the
Ministry for separating the question Of subsidy
FROM the hcrse tax few months since he
WAS against 8 reduction OF the horse tax. bat
when he began to consider be question, he
was led to support It, because it would be on
the road TO general property tax. He re-
garied this Law. If Il passed, IS bat stepping
stone to something better.
Mr.. {. K. Bishop said that &c diSliked taxes
as mach as any other person. but they could
no; dc the thousand and one things that were
petit;Oned for without taxes. He thought the
horse tax shOcld ne; be reduced. The horses
were curse TO the nation. on account Of their
immense number. lie thought that the pre-
sent tax had an influence on keeping down
the increase Of these animals. As a general
thing, the people have about as much need OF
horses as they have Of wings. II we 80 10
the homes Of these invesesste horse riders, We
shall fnd that they live in misery. land neg
9setei. and the whole aspect vas one Of decay.
These who need horses could pay the tax. and
IL would not be burden 70 them. Reducing
the tax woald net eqnSliEe il. making the
burden fall upon these who should bear it.
He was in favor ef referring the question to
Comnittee. Because that the Treasury was
row fall. it did not fellow that it would be
wise 70 throw Of this lax
Mr.. koSkSnG said thAt there had been too
much dispute upon this subject already. The
arguments brought Up by the Ministry were
veEy frivolous. Mr.. Bishops remarks about
The reason that the lands were neglected, was
because the foreigners had bonght them. The
desire Of the people was net to kill of all the
horSes, but to reduce the tax, and if this was
done. he was Of opinion that the tax would be
raised frpm the preScn; 500 zee to over S7e O00.
Il was profitable that. should the Law pass. it
would Be found that there were almost &c.,
eco horses on the islands.
Mr.. keAwehunahalS said that the bill would
not help poor people particularly. and he sup
ported the ideS Of referring to . Committee.
II the bill passed. j, would undoubtedly please
his constituency
Mr.. Rhodes thought that the bill could be
50 amended as to satisfy all parties, and he
was Of opinion that IN lack Of other bills 10
reduce taxation, be was in favor OF this. with
some notifications. He thought that horses
used for work should Re exempt from taxation
horses used for pleasure only, and horses for
breeding, should pay an appropriate tax.
Motion TO postpone was lost
Nosion 70 refer TO a Select Committee was
put upon the Ayes and Noes-Ayes, 20 I; Noes,
l9-Tc;Sl, 50. Committee rose, and report
approved
Select Conmittee-J. ". KsawehunAhAlA,
$ C. Wilder, Y. Kuudsen, Z. II. Boyd, S. H.
Phillips.
The House then adjourned