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be childish and foolish. The motion was made
I by the opposition, and probably because they
were vexed at being defeated. If they did
I not believe they were in the minority they
could soon find out. He did not believe that
the motion was for any good purpose, but from
personal motives. For that reason be objected
to any reconsideration.
Mr.. c. H. Judd thought il strange that the
member for Waialua should bring forward such
reasons. There were many reasons why the
questions should be reconsidered. He threw
back with seOrn the assertion of personality.
As for himself he lost, as far as dollars and
cents were concerned, by his action in the mat
ter. Ii had been said that the Ministers were
the only ones to make laws for the land, but
when the Constitution was granted in 1864 the
King gave the rights to the Representatives in
making the laws. One of the members yes
terday had voted on the side of subsidy, be-
cause he thought it his duty as the Ministers
introduced the bill. Members had said that
they voted that side because the King. Minis
tiers and Chiefs were in favor of it. He wished
them to understand that they had as much
right IN making the laws as any one.
Mr.. kaukaha said that when the bill was
brought forward he was opposed to it, but he
had changed his mind when the question had
been SO fully discussed. The opposition was
ready TO 60 into another long debate. even
after shutting of discussion yesterday by their
resolution. His mind was made up after long
and careful deliberation, and could not be
changed. Not a bill had been brought forward
that had been so thoroughly ventilated. If
anything new could be said upon it he would
be in favor of reconsideration.
Mr.. Nahsku wanted to know what reasons
could be aGduced for reconsideration. All the
members had sworn to do their duty and sup
port the Constitution, and they must respect
their oath
Mr.. Kalaksua had opposed the resolution |
introduced TO keep members from speaking, |
and he thought that as the matter was decided |
It had better be left slone.
His Ell. c. de Narigny did not yet see any |
reason for reconsideration. He believed the |
member who made the molten had voted with |
the majority for this reason alone but he had /
spoken and argued against the majority sew
eral times. He considered the questisn as set |
tied the members who had voted in the ma
joriiy would rally around the question, and |
carry it again.
NJ. Lyons said he had the names of three |
who had changed their minds, and he wished |
to know what they really thought, and what |
side they really supported.
Mr.. Nahaku said that in so important a |
thing as this, no one should go in the dark, |
but all should see first and then vote, and in |
such case no member would change his vote
Mr. Mahelona thought that too much time 1
had been spent in the thing almost the entire |
House had spoken, but be had said nothing. If /
the notion for reconsideration passed be should /
say something. He voted with the majority /
yesterday, but was in some doubt about it and |
thought he should change his vote. Besides 4
he wished to propose some amendments and 4
so supported reconsideration. His amendment l
would be somewhat as follows, that one Of the 1
two steamers should touch at HilO and Lahsina
both ways, and the other at Hanalei and Koloa
both ways. In case that amendment was ae-
eepted be thought the bill should pass. The
Legislature and Government were anxious for
the good Of the people, and would do all that
could be done for the public good. Unless the
steamers touched al other places than Homo
lulu how could the out districts be benefited.
He would also include the harbors Of Kaswa-
loa and kawaihse in his amendment. If the
steamers touched at all these places, he thought
that they would then be a blessing to the
whole islands and not Honolulu only As for
the amount Of subsidy he did not particularly
object to il 1t might not even be enough,
that was immaterial.
Mr. koakanu said that there was plenty of
reason why the subject should be reeonsidered.
And he supported a reconsideration.
Gov. Nahsoleiua objected in general terms
to reconsideration
H. H LunallO strongly supported a recon
sideration. be approved very much of the
remarks of Mr.. Lyons and Mr.. Hitchcock sew
eral days ago. He thought that before we
looked aboard, we should see if any money
could be spared from home.
Mr.. Hitchcock called for the ayes and nays
Question put and lost. Ayes IL, nays Is.
ORDER OF The DAT.-A bill to promote
oeean steam navigation was in order.
Mr. Phillips moved TO order to engrossment.
Mr.. Nahaku moved the Committee Of the
Whole.
Mr.. Knudsen said that he was in favor Of
discussing the bill in Committee of the
House.
Mr.. Phillips said he wished to have the bill
discussed in the House, the committee had
gone so far as to recommend the passage Of
the first section, and what advantage was to
be gained by going into Committee? He did
not make his motion to suppress discussion
but TO promote IT.
Question to go into Committee was put, and
carried
M Mabelona called to the Chair.
Mr. Kalakaua moved to pass the second
section With the amendment that the word c
80 Cabinet be struck out and 81 PriTy'' insert
ed, so that the question Of making a contract
would be discussed by the Privy Council IN I
stead Of the Cabinet Council.
Mr. Pilipo asked what security was to be G
given for the bonds.
Mr.. Philips said that the credit of the gov L
srnment would be given.
Mr. PiliPO asked who would psy the interest
at nine per cent.
Mr. Phillips said that would be paid b, the
government, and that the government could ,
probably make better bargain than nine :
per cent. I
Mr. Pilipo objeetsd to the section as II stood Il
Committee rose and House adjourned 4
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Assembly met at 10 4. NJ, H. H. II. Keku- 3
anaoa ii the chair Prayer by the Chaplain
Minutes Of the previous day read and sp- b
proved 2
REsOLUTIoSs--Mr. Hitchcock gave notice
II = bill to amend Section s73 Of the Civil