The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-08-08

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| State.
| Nessrs Schumacher and Tappan from the same CON-
| from tina report OF the majority.
Mr.. SEYMOUR gave notice that he should make another
minority report at some future day.
recess was then taken TO haif-past seven O'Clock.
Evening Session.
The Convention met at 80 P. n
ORGANIZATION OF THE LEGIsLArURE
NJ. MERRITT moved that, unless sooner determined,
debate shall cease in Committee Of the Whole at one p
N. to- morrow the report Of the Committee on the
| organization Of the Legislature. Lost-20 to CO.
The Convention then went into Committee OF the
Whole the organization of the Legislature Mr. Fuller
The pending question stated to be on the amend
ment offered last evening by A. Parker, providing for
eight Senate districts the appor'onmens to Ds made BY
Mr.. GOULD, rsp.) OF Columbia. proposed TO amend
that person shall vote for Senator unless he shall
have paid State or . county tax within the twelve
months previous to the election.
Mr.. MCNEIL, (dem) Of New York, thought better
Legislature could be secured by DIVISION the State
into large Senate districts and the election OF members
OF Assembly by counties.
Mr. N. ! TowNsEsp rep Of Rensselaer, srgued in
favor OF the single district system both for the Senate
and Assembly.
Mr. orDYks, trep.) Of New York, was opposed 10 in.
cooperating into the constitution the proposed plan for
the representation Of minorities The system was,
yet untred and for that should not be placed In
be TO permit the Legislature to make provision for try
ing the experiment. He was opposed to large districts
The question was then taken on the amendment
offered by Mr.. A. j. Parker, and was lost.
Mr.. FLAGLER (rep) Of Niagara, moved 10 amend as
follows
Divide the State into thry;twe Senate dis.ric.. The
ture at ITS rst session after the adoption OF this cons
s9 ss 'aSy"1 thirty
wO nsas tss,o said districts shall be formed e.
an esasl number inhssl.anis eseiadns ALIENS and no
except such eqgitably entitled than
h a. as easa in Sa
shall Offices end OF two years and
four and q; an the
term Of four years.
The question first taken as to whether the term
Of Office Of Senator should be four years. 1t was
carried.
hequestion then taken on the second part Of
the amendment relating to the formation Of Senate
districts II was lost
The present State apportionmeut having been adopted
last evening" the question was then taken the last
paragraph OF the Amendments, and it was carried by
vote OF SO to SO.
Mr.. scHooNMAKER, (dem.) Of Ulster, moved to amend
so as to make sixteen Senate districts and TO provide for
the election Of two Senators each district Lost
Mr.. ScHELI, (dem.) of Now York. moved TO amend as
follows
That Of the inhabitants the State sh.
in 1879 and for every ten years thereafter and upon the
dsTe Eses Sa
contain as near as be an EQUAL number Of
until the return ?, another and sha con
the Formation Of Senate district The districts as the
constituted shall remain until the enumera
in 1853 ~''' '->' paw
Mr. ScHEL's amendment was lost
Mr.. SCHEIL moved to reconsider. He bad offered the
amendment in order TO secure OF tho state
The last enumeration had been numerically admitted
be incorrect that he would reflect the disp-
guished official who superintended IT, for he did not
believe he wasto be blamed for the ncoectness Of the
returns; but that they were incorrect there was
doubt It was well known that there werc portions Of
the city Of New York that were never visited by tho
marshals. He referred to statistics and the
growth OF the city TO show that the returns far
below the real figures II was therefore, unfair TO base
For these reasons he desired to provide for
meraon Of the Inhabitants in order that the city might
be properly represented 70 inc LEGISLATURE q, thu
amendment There was no precedent for mourning the
enormous expense necessary to correct an apporton
ment for representation in the Senate He was further
opposed to for the that provided that
county should be divided in she formation of Senate
dstce-a cIty which WAS entitled 10 i've Senators
instead Of two as would be provided BY this amend
Mr. HrrcHxs, trep) Of New York, said the census Of
1865 might be correct, and IL might not There was .
vast floating population ~ that CITY people came into
sldered the results Of the OF 1885, and had
cuded that it fair as any other that had been
sde The aggregate vote Of any I'VE senate districts in
tho ayior OF the State greater than the vote Of five
senate eisI,scts Of New York.
FOR sso sna he
consent would DC gwen to adjourn. The motion was
Mr. E. BROOKS said he supposed the majority were in
ior nights session being haipest ten. and tina, no
of 1865 as incorrect and entirely unreliable.
Mr. c. G. DWIGHT, trep) OF cayuga, asked If the
census OF 1860 was not taken by Captain Rynders two
cents per head2
Mr. Brooks said II made no difference whether it was
taken by Captain Rynders not
Mr. DwiGmr said tho point was that IL was taken at
two cents per head.
Mr. Brooks said that whole streets were never visited
-. no marshals II was In the summer season, whom
Work rfn22plc were away, and oil acquainted with New
Mir. GKrrLsa enumeration was incorrect.
1ss returned Of Westchoster said the census OF
tions since and q IafkGrs There had been two cleo
nsiurazed in that period These of persons had been
by great interest and exchemeusns were charac
had more than 1l4,000 votes been cast. at no tmo
Mr. Brooks replied that at all elections the ..
showed that there from seventy i've to eighty per
Mr. DAIEr, tdem) Of New York, was opposed 70 Mr.
Schell's amendment Tests he'd been made BY the New
Of isss and their nvesga,ons showed that the popu
latioa about nine hundred thousand But he would
NOT adopt the amendment The Convention had settled
upon the apportionment ~ agreed upon BY the last
LEGISLATURE ana would disturb the regular apporon.
ment once in ten years to adopt this amendment He
would abide by the decision already arrived At BY the
Convention on this point
The subject was further discussed BY Mssss conssr
and Frank when the question was taken motion to
reconsider the vote by which Mr. schels amendment
was lost and II was lost.
Mr. scBEIL renewed his amendment, as TO provide
that no county shall be divided IN the formation Of
Senate district unless its population shall entts IL 70
more than ono Senator. Lost
Several motions were made to rise and report pro-
gress but were lost -
Mr. ScuooxuAKR moved to amend, providing for ar
teen Senate districts the Senators 70 hold Office for three
years. Lost
Several othcr amendments offered and lost.
Frequent motions rise aud report progress were
made but without success The determination seemed
to be TO 30 through with the article on the organization
Of the Legislature.
Al twenty minutes to o'clock the Convention
sfiI in