The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-11-12

" KNOW tnat tncy Represented ~ pfoscni
have already been diminished TO increase the
representation Of Scotland, and that they do not
a. their opinions may be AS TO the dis
tributiou or seats and disposition OF power-thsy do
nos believe but that they completely dispose oil
them for their use and will not let Scotland have
one and do not blame them, Ana permit ms to say
cannot blame them therefor IL any members for scot
land JOIN IN taking means 10 disranchise boroughs IN
england with the idea that they are obtaining them
Tor group boroughs. or divided COUNTESS in Scotland
they viii md that In the last Of the panomims
All oranges In the dsirRnchsed boroughs are appor-
toned from the small English city the small English
CITY therefore, II will be necessary for the people Of
scotland 70 make up their minds on this subject so
Tar as the government concerned they Will at the
earliest opportunity when they meet February, bring
forward their Scotch Reform bill They will propose
considerable increase In the number OF Scotch men,
bers(appiausel-which must be finished by increasing
tho number Of the members OF tho House OF Commons
(applause)-and they will stand by that proposition In
the Scotch members support them. (Cheers.l don't
mean 10 say that there 10 Inconvenience in altering
the number OF the members OF the House OF Commons
the number has been changed before this. and
tho question is not whether yoa are TO increase H. but
whether you are 70 increase the number OF members for
said. IL you increase the number you win have ererg
f,o1p,nDy borough Ghai rss fike fungss the
nghs and gels apopmIafion God knoscs hoD-tlsughter
Whero they come from, or where they 60 tof0r they
often as soon dsappearcaItering al the door OF the
House Of Commons. NY answer 70 that is the good
sense OF the House Of Commons would Immediately put
an end 10 such an appeal but whom II comes TO the
question whether your ancient nation which joined
on equal erms-oud applause from its altered crcum.
heve the good sense Of the House Of Commons will
alry consider that question: and they will say there
no cabalistc charm In the number 653 With regard 10
the question of education, ever slnce have been In
public life have done everything possibly could to
have done so because have always felt with tue lin
tied population Of the United Kingdom compared with
the imperial position occupies with reference TO the
question, not only eur duty, but IL 10 an absolute
necessity or the State, that should make
every man the most effective being that edu-
cation can constitute him said In the old times
that Ensshman could beat three members Of some
other Observation-Disclosures think wewant 10 main
tain the power Of England ought to make him equal
IN the business OF life 70 three other that any other
nation can furnish. Therefore, ~ far ~ I am
cerned whether Il b after . more greatly advanced
system OF oducatonwhethsr II be that system OF
petng which have supported, though l am not
unconscious OF the pedantry with which Il has been
to convince me Of the advantage Of national education
should have always referred TO the country OF which
am now me guest tChesrs Il has been my lot, - Il
has probably been the lot Of the vast majority Of those
present. to have found myself many distant andsI
have mover been IN any one without dnding Scotch
head Of the poll Laughtsr.) He was prosperous; he
was thriving often the confidential adviser Of per-
sons a.. Of the hishsss position. even Of rulers
to attribute much to organization and 10
race. am bound to ay never met
Pasha oho did o teu As ooed MS rise 10 AIS parish
school. prolonged chesra) Well, gentlemen, under
these circumstance DO not suppose for moment at
all depreciac the system Of national sducaton but
think no person who has candIdy and completely
aminsd its details but must acknowledge that though
the principles for which IL is founded admirable the
application Of these principles not certainly complete
and extensive can only say that snoe the report Of
inc commission upon the subject o. your schools was
and hope that in this session shall bring forward
measure upon national education which will be
good Reform bill and good Education bill think you
will remember the Lass year Of the old Parliamens with
Gentsmen may Dc allowed 20 say one word upon the
subject OF education generally think myself that the
issue that has been raised In certain sense false s
but a. touches very great principals and character
DO NOS believe that in this United Kingdom any
and forcing part OF the country adopt
system, could BE- succsssful Hear, hsaEl an not
ism ought 10 be extended to every part OF Her Naiesy
and am not prepared 70 admit that the
British nation generally Is an uneducated nation.
education il concerned. doubt the multiplicity Of our
education and the value OF labor have prevented that
desired but you look even 70 our primary education
compared with the primary education OF other
respects the point which other nations hsvo attained
STILL ~ whole, during these thirty years, the advance
In England has been grcsses but deny that the edu
cation Of the people or England differs greatly. am
tenn OF primary sducaon say that the technical sau-
Albert first laid down principles which
may describe as the AIbertine movement took place
been carried out In the localities aecedthe technical
education Of England has been immensely improved;
and II you come TO more secular education there s
influence prevalent, In England which exists other
country, and which forms Ia very great degree the
character and opinions and conduct OF the English peo
pie and that d the influence Of free press that in
duence 10 never considered The press OF this country,
BY whatever party, Is on the whole, con.
ductsd with great energy, With great intelligence and
wta high moral feeling snd perhaps impars secu-
OF the boosted cmss that have been held up models
We cannot rival can for moment compete with. do
not what may be the opinions feelings OF those
who conduct the press OF this country. IL Is
whether they animated BY nigh moral feeling
motive but this is cIearthey successfully
direct tnen iabors to any great class in this country
unless they give that class credit for that high moral
feeling and therefore. without INDUCING in any cant
upon the subject say the condition OF press,
which for energy, general intelligence. information and
moral feeling cannot be excelIed proof OF the sound
lar education, highly profitable which 10 az present
going cannot deny that the great which has
been passed this year will give, In some degree, new
Character 70 our constitution and Introduce some new
powers and influences into It's action and, indeed, 10
accomplish such ends the object Of those Who
brought u forward. hear every day that, in sonss-
quence OF the changes that have effected
expect great questions 70 arise. Well doubt great
gsest,ons ,cu ane and sAould % sorry e.at great
grca. questions il would only show that are in
state OF affairs whom the Reform bill OF 1857 has been
passed. with what the state which will be remsnh-
csss WsSsr different ,sT fsans there Sas IL q:
country ct that time one believe that the wise
and expsrsncad men OF those days afraid Of the
Reform bill II Vas not the Reform bill that brought
forward by Lord Grey, the eminent statesman which
produced that alarm; u was the way IN which that Re-
form bill was passed; 4 was the bludseOn and the
brckbats IL Vas nottingham Castls in flames; IL Was
cities like Bristol that sacked Bus contrast
that state Of affairs and the consequences Of that state
Of adairs with what was our sxpsrsncs We have had
a rio, iaie ro, jus 10 shosD that frsemen.
lLaughter) We have had, We had in 1881 violent
opinions expressed but In 1882 they expressed By
men OF msrK-by men who influenced opinon By
whom are they expressed nows By the nincompoops
Of poiscs-tchseIs and laugh,srlby men moro absurd
than HudibraA CONTINUED laughter II you consider
The different position Of the country these periods
i Is very remarkable You passed Reform bill then,
and everybody was frightened: ihey frightened
that they collected together and believed that che only
security against further danger the assocatng To-
gethsr TO prevent further change Now al feel
what an error was that II IL faacious triumph In
politics - IN science 10 suppose that you establish
party upon resistance TO change and for this reason
the change is inevitable In progressive country.
change constant; and the great question H. not
whether you still resist change which 10 inevitable,
bat whether that change shall be carried out In
defsrence 70 the manners, the customs, tho laws
M al