The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-12-23

nal City. WARN spprobstion.I - The holy
Father We trust will introduce scforms into his States
but he cannot do 50 until hs shall have longer to
dread their results HeaA hear.l am happy TO see
he government showing itself nrm and resoiu,e; II is
the policy which for sixteen years has assured pub
c order prosperity and national greatness 10 France
loud sssent Jsappori the reference TO the govern
mont 10 examse the Interpolation which demands the
maintenance Of troops the Ponthca States and
oppose that which describes tho sending OF our SOL
expedition 10 Romo Yes, We have accomplished an
expedition against revoutions,s home and abroad
and thank tho government for It prolonged APP
n. RouurR sad:--Gentlemeu I shall address myself
principally 20 the Justification OF the conduct Ct the
government In the past and at present win then in
marked by indecsion, reicence and ambiguity and
hope to make my declarations SO clear dspel all
obscurty and enable me boldly TO appeal 10 the loyalty
OF public opinion. Frst, believe Il will DO OF TO
inquire what Ia tho character, the scope and the
OBJECT OF tho revolution which has threatened Rome;
] Wiz then Judge the conduct respectively OF the
Italian and French governments afterwards I will
turn 10 the objections Of tne Hon Theirs against the
Italian Campaign and against Italian unity, and will
endeavor to justify from every point OF social and
moral the intervention which the opposition reproaches
us with; finally, Will approach and grapple with the
dilemma In which have sought 70 place US, aud
hope To do so with frankness which Will bring every
troubled consc round the loyal declarations Of
the government Hear, hear) What tho charac-
tor OF the revolution which menaced Romef Was Il
prepared in darkness and mystery In order suddenly to
TO show itself In the II. h OF dayf No; II publicly
organized developed In view or the Ponhcal territory
on the soil OF Italy. altogether too hosptabs
LneS0
preparations compensated for BY the rapdity OF the
executonS No, al al. Daring eight months the Pom.
unca states We're under the aouo menace OF an inva
sion and OF nsurrection ut Rome Italy disturbed
by 4 France was disquieied; Europe moved. The
revolution anxious during this interval the
dressed 10 the Ministers OF England, Prussia and
sia resident al Rome circular note, informing them
that he bad been appointed In le4s Governor of Rome
AMI that his authority, not having ceased 10 BIO valid
for the Pope is only usurperhe intended 10
his rights and bis power "a laugh) What was its
nj an tn ora mas Rnn and tn
support II by corps OF volunteers who should by that
time have crossed the Poptilca frontier What were s
means OF organization Subscriptions which had been
collected scheily In England, depots OF arms
enlistment Offices, where, among men OF hon.
thear hear6scauss on enrolling them they were paid
premium am promised quadruple pay. Garbaid
a. to noad OF two secret societies. at Romethe Ma
iiona committee and the Centro Of Insurrecsion He
also acted Florence and that publicly President
OF the National Committee Of the Roman Refugees
time passed. the volunteers drew Pom
them attempted cross But the not
break out az ROME and these two hundred volunteers
were repu sed al Tesni and dispersed by the Italian
army. "a voce-"Roman.") No, by the Italian army.
The Two Roman committees reconstructed. and all
the members suspected OF modernism excluded. Dis
coui agement seemed, however 70 have seized on the
revoiutionists and Gsribaldi appeared TO pc the
point oil abandoning his projects peace congress
then assembled II OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES all the
revoiuiionists mot,
NJ GARNER PAGEs-There were secret agents 70 pro-
woke excuses. (Nose.)
". RouuER--Ths governments would not have ex-
ceeded their rights in ndng agents 70 Geneva watch
the meetings o. the revolo,ons.s but they we're spared
the trouble by The publication OF the bulletins OF the
proceedings Will only quote some fragments OF the
spec hes OF Gsr1badi Gsrnler-Psges will then see
whether he ought TO apply to him the qpa!ica0n
ployed just now. daughter OF approvail Garlbsdi.
who had received ovation on his arrival left like
indignation Of tn inhabitants. The impulse had, how
ever been given. and Italian Deputies OF the Left
and sena ors took up the movement henoiu Garbaldi
formed bands openly and took them Monte Rosondo
These were committed In the face Of sxmring
government. concert Of fasehood was formed
in tho Italian press. The successes or the Pontlcal
troops transformed into dsreats Rome was SAID
20 have risen In nsurrecton; the Pope stated
have LET'S tho Vatican. aud the credulons popTscs
sidered Rome IS already conquered. Garbad arrived
st Florence harangued the people, and told them that
they were menaccd by foreign fleet, which would,
hoSever be dispersed before the breath OF the people
uaughter)
NJ JULES FivaE said--Gen,lemen, when my colleagues
and myself presented demand for interpolation, it
TO draw from the government explicit declarations
To meet Iha: the honorable minister has been precise
but there IL one point to which wish TO call tho at
tenton OF the Chamber, involving, as II Does an in.
Consistency IN the proceedings OF government. The
task 90 valiantly accepted By tho ministers Is
the same as that which tncy took on themselves In
sss our IN ne opo Or i ss
ambassador Romo declared that become Alto
getner Impossible. fNoIset From that impossibiiity
men. hoped that tue Holy Father. remaining face 10
face with Isiy, would como TO understanding with
her From ls4s 20 1884 TIE government, explained its
full we withdrew in 1885 Wen, say thar The situation
the difference between the Aus and French action
thai the former submissive, and the latter gave
sNme.a r sso Sr ,"Smsso 70 he ao1 rsSs
Noise You had got out OF difficult position Accord
ing TO the words OF venerable prsatc Is was not pos.
and made France do 90 Hkewiss Renewed noise)
when say that tho government OF the Hoy Father Is
10 opposition modern liberty the terms OF the
IN a
clisiion between liberalism and the Pope The govern
out has lost that hope and, therefore, submits 10
the Holy Father. Marks OF disssntl IL pronoances
clearly that win defend the Pope IN every Az
present The French government 10 in face Of Italian
men, and TO Whose policy u gives Its adhesion.
WHAT - that polcy9 You have only TO cast your eyes
the circulars OF General aenaorea to see that the pos
session OF Rome lie declared Indispensable TO Italy
(nteTruptiun. There - another point which the Minis
ter os State has not touched He has spoken OF tho
marx of Difference which the Holy Father has given
consentng 10 participate In the conference without
condition. Can he say that the Holy See accepts the
compromlss which Frcnca policy would wish 10 es'ab-
llsh fSosc.l You arc gong TO pass vote Of coni
deuce, IN ine affairs OF Germany and Nsxico Win
havo tho tame fate. tnurmurs, AZ for US, We ask,
what he by which you propose TO attain the
ooect pursued Providence aud time are invoked.
Iha, 70 holding puerile language unworthy or great
do not say thai Tho Of France Is not strong
enough 10 force s WI, on Italy, but do say 70 pursues
q chlmera whom 4 hopes 20 obtain the Remuneration
OF the vote 81 1851 Italian unity has been attributed
10 the House Of Savoy. witboT going back Hachia
and Dante, tho principal nspirer during the present
century has been The Pontir who now obstrucs H. lie
II who sounded In Italy tho cry for delveraneehc
10 who reused tho courage Of the Italians. (hur.
mursl desire 20 see aconcistlon bat ace no more
probability than in ls49 and 1884, for this reason
that neither Italy the Holy See will abandon their
presensions Thence tha consequence arises that our
occupation viii 10 indefinite We shall spend thsre
twenty Ave millions year, We shalt lock up army
and neet which, under certain circumstance, would
be- valuable elsewhere You compromise not only the
dignity OF France, bot you mark with the brand OF policy
which ought 20 ind ito strength higher than In
arms Noise; Vote, votst"l well II yca will not
hear me gentlemen, vote (Ths honorable member
descended from the trbunsl
The PRESIDENT II recall n. Jules Favre "a the tribune,
and beg the Chamber 10 preserve the attentive attitude
VIII On II has hitherto done. Hear, hear.1
NJ JrIss FAvar reascended The tribune amid laughter
On some benches, and sad--Gentiemen. this may ap-
pear amusing to you; I and u sad enough. We arc
men, and ought not TO act like chdien
The PpkspEST-I cannot allow the last words 10 pass
unnoticsd The Chamber does not ACT A. ~ favrs do.
scrbss But s the srd OF debate 20 Ions and an aiten
tlon so sustained, when convictions are formed, lie
natural that the Chamber should experiences some assl-
tude. (Hear, hear.)
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