The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-08-03

The -, subject had wrought change upon his mind.
would a' BE- - cIdsd that larger number Of districts
, me sp sortionmsnt would stand forth the hrst
=, ,o' r. 20 why not pass . over entirely
ds' ason thus far had here had shown tho propreiy
passing the subject over to the Legislature. However
o. votes TO bs cast with reference 70 the adoption or
rejection Of the constitution to be proposed the people
an angel were 10 form the districts no could not give
Mir. HERMAN, dem Of Oneida said the Senate should
DO so constituted that it would be less affected by local
Than the lower branch OF the Lesisature In his juds
ment the plan for large districts and for long terms
would come the nearest to making the Senate such
body as it ought to be- II would secure permancncy in
that body and make its members partake more Of the
state interest and State reputation 1t would give that
body higher class Of than could DO secured
by small districts Tho counties have their local
rspre'en'aa,ai,x s IN the Assembly The experience
an ADLER body than that it had been since
He did not desire TO offer any particular reason for tins
firm this view. Experienced men would always be Sc
cured IN that body, one-quarter OF the number only
general feeling tina. the able Convention OF Isas made
mistake In dividing the State into small Senatorial
districts That we had not had q good government
since, nor as able and as strong men in tho higher
branch OF the legislature Such Senate would prove
check upon the popular branch elected every year
confirm his view and that best efforts should be
brought to bear to apportionmept of thess
this Convention Let cast aside our partisan Vie ws
and complete this work with view to the public good
t no ri nopea nss would 60 back 70 the old s
The small district system had shown that men we're
elected to the Assembly who would not have
ceen hought OF Tor that position II the county system
had been IN force He appealed to the members II such
had not been the experience under the present constu
uon Under the present constitution there head
TO the government and he would favor plan of going
back TO tho plan OF having some officers appointed by the
Mr. Cooks trepl Of Ulster repealed the attacks that
naa oeen made upon the majority by the minority.
Gentlemen had travelled out Of their way to hunt up
grievances. me committee had been charged with
eerrymandering the State 10 mako republican dis
trics He knew that in making up the districts as re
ported the question Of politics did enter in the con-
slderaton Of the committee at all. The complaint was
that while tho republican majority In the State was only
republicans would get 10 nna s se
ators for the democrats But the commit ee could not
he'p that because the democratic majores were con-
hhea 70 new YORK and few contiguous counties. Tho
committee could not diffuse the majorities over tho
and hence they were compelled, In making up the
memberathai could be gathered from the opinions Of
ing the yeNe committee supposed they were represent
districts. The,snls Convention in recommending large
there was no good Ssature substantially alike, and
stltuency should not scn Inc claim tina. the con-
sent to the Senate There dna1 should mo be
tue large districts than under the small ones under
the politisians control the nominations now? he aat
the difficulty OF an apportionmen and would gladly
have been relieved from aay responsibility with it, He
had no paftizan feelings in the matter He DID not
see why New York should not be republican in the
course Of the 1threeiyears He nothing now 10
prevent IT, His friends were about TO take the negro
out Of politics. and there would DO nothing the
democrats TO base an Issue upon. aughter The trial
of John H. Surratt about concluded and be would
be disposed Of by the time this Convention should ad
journ, so that he did not see what would be loft
uaughterl He had prepared another apportonmens
which he would propose. II not necessary to give
up In despair Of ever being able TO make eight Senate
districts tia. would be acceptable. y
Mr. CARPENTER, (rep) Of Duchess, did not approve Of
the plan for large districts II would not secure
aDer class Of The four Senators w0uc be selected
from specified localities which would claim the nonina-
ton The change in the boundaries OF districts would
not prevent corruption, representative
Of more honesty or integrity. II we should tell our
constituents that this plan had been adopted to prevent
corruption they would laugh at Other means
should be resorted TO accomplish that end Tho re-
personalities should he amenable to the people At
first only had four Senate districts in this Sae then
IL enlarged eight and then to thirty Thus
has boon shown that representation had been enlarged
Progress reported the committee rose, ant leave
was granted 70 cit again.
Adjourned to ten o'clock tomorrow morning.