The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-09-19
PROCEEDINGS or THE CONVENTION.


Tho Convention met at nine O'Clock this morning.
Several petitions were presented and referred.
Mr. AxrErL made explanation concerning an article
in the argus OF this morning with reference to the re-
port OF the Committee on State Prisons
THE METROPOLITAN PolIcE-FrRE AND EXCISE coMMIs-
soNERs.
Mr.. GERRY called up the resolution offered by him
yesterday, calling upon the Metropolitan Board Of Police
for information.
Mr. GREELEY moved to amend az folows:-"Provided
It is not attended with any expense TO the State" The
amendment was lost and tho resolution adopted
Mr. GERRY thcn called up his resolution calling upon
the Metropolitan Commissioners Of Excise Tor iniorma.
ton
DIR. vsspEs moved to amend by adding the follow
ingI.n what manner the funds SO srecoivcd by them
Mr. GREELEY moved to lay the resolution on tho table.
Carried by So against Al.
Mr. GERRY taon called up his resolution calling upon
the New York Fire Commissioners for Information
Mr. KErcaua moved to lay the resolution on tho table
Carried.
CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS.
Mr. DuGASSE offered tho following
Resolved That after the disposal of the report nov under
n n Coms the wSoy h s.
days The FRS days DEBATE benz limited to one hour
day each rsport sha be disposed Of IN debate
ment and to Two speakers on each side.
Mr.. ALvoRp moved to lay the motion ON the table.
Carried
THE PEPoRrs on TIE FTvAycEs AID CANALS
The consideration of the reports the finances and
canals was then resumed in Committee Of the Whole.
Tho following secion reported by the Committee on
Finances, was tasen up:-
snoroN9 Tie legislature shall not sell, lease other
remain ae property the stale and under us management
forever
Mr.. WALES moved the following substitute
The legislature shall not sell lease otherwise dispose
sufficient to pay The expenses Of collection superintendent
State and under It's manag cement.
Mr. GKsiEY took ground In favor Of selling the canals
II had been asked "Suppose the Central Railroad
should buy thom?n lie hoped that road would mako
tho purchase because hey would seek to make them do
all the business possible ong tho canals BELONGED
the State they would be Of corruption among
contractors and officials He concluded his remarks by
Offering the following slbstitute:-
SECTION Tie Governor Lieutenant Governor, Secretary
se @ ah osy ON
of this State, week for six weeks inviting proposals
to purchase jointly seyeay the canals OF this sate
zach lid sha Be- backed by deposlt with the
OF i've per cent Of It's in lawful money Of the
e at ss be- ae and pay s the
Send THE tolls the canals any of them, shall not
be raised by the purchaser or purchasers above the rates
ana raised to point not above them at the discretion Of
good naygaee order for not less than sig months IN each
Of Of hesr eos For ea year Of failure
Sosihs bids are to be sealed and nd Ssed With tho
hey shall e opened b the ocers aforesaid
IyA.On Wednesday. the 9th, the state officers afore-
sn de s by s TO s a sn hs the S a
eep bid bills. give notice Of zach
ing III the bidders that their deposits sub
ssSIhe State officers aforesaid shall notify the people
the s 90 se 10 ss SsSn or se ns
.saH specify that be taken such election
A. cha.
s,:sSed g.
seI the CanssSo sod every siect0r shan Be su.hoT
and the State shall officially canvass the returns
from the several souses stating the nsgreg,,s nmbers
conclusvey declare that the people by minority vot, Of
those voting on the question: have decided to sell or not to
n sss 5s BE- s yGSs rS s the Sc
keeping Of the shall forthwith be subject 70 their
s then he s. e@s snail Be R'S@
and e pay the ted STATES Soa
par or IN rna ar aer not es. sn sn9 5
per cent per month OF the stipulated purchase money until
ON snes or as Shah ha.p unpaid
q he 70 S % ,s @ hs
been fully made the state officers aforesaid In behalf Of
eoSycaacs ot ali the hs tile and Of The
the & to V anrTe and improve tss -as a. their dscre
ton spbec, to The re s sfo ,S , ,,
directions of the State officers Aforesaid TO devote the
he sSfacon and extinction Of the several debts Of tho
state 50 fast a. the same can be done without 70
have been paid on then the tax taxes imposed for the
longer levied nor collected.
Mr. vegrLascK said tho gentleman from westchestcr
mr. Greeley had justly complained Of the slow manner
in which business had been transacted BY this Conven
ton but he had thrown In here proposition which he
knew could not DO adopted II would only provoke dis
cusson and take up time 10 no purpose.
Mr. NJ TowssESp was opposed 10 selling any OF tho
canals, and proceeded at lengh to give his reasone
Mr. BRcES favored the sale OF the unproductive
canals No company individual would continue to
operate unprodactive property; then why should the
Satl He even doubted whether tho State should own
any Of the canals.
iiessrs wsKesAS and BicKFoRp opposed the PROPOSE.
ton 10 sell any OF the canals.
The question Was taken On Mr. Wales substitute and
seven members voicd in the Affirmative.
Mr. ELEY further advocated his proposition 10 sell
the canals
Mr. AxrEn said reference bad been mado TO tho sale
of the Pennsylvania canals He thought that unortu-
nate for those who Advocated the sale OF the New York
canals. The people OF Pennsylvania had sun red enor
mousiy from the monopoly THIS inauguraied and tho
high tolls imp sod
Slr GREELEY said the sale Of tho Pennsylvania canals
had been benefit 10 that state. Governor Curtin had
told him In this chamber that Pennsylvania would not
take back her canals II she could hire them for nothing
They doing much larger bus ness than ever be-
fore and tho STATE was yer 80 prosperous having now
Mr.. BfcKwtru inquired Of hr Greeley what he would
do With the money arising from the sale OF the canals
Mr.. GRE repioi that he would pay the state DEBT
With II and reduce tho taxcs.
Mr. AxruL asked Mr.. Greeley If Governor Curtin told
him how much the tolls had bccn increased on the
Pennsylvania canals since thcy wore solds
Mr. GaEEfET said his proposition that tho tolls
should not be increased on our canals In case they were
sold
Mr. CLINTON opposed the proposition 10 dspos. OF this
heritage OF The people The canals the glory OF
the state They comprlscd great syslom OF internal
water communication and could not be separated Taey
should remain the property OF the State forever
Mr. LEE protested against the sale OF any Of the canals
and spoke at length concerning the Importance OF the
Oswego Canal.
Mr.. HArcu said the usefulness OF tho Pennsylvania
Canal was entirely destroyed by passage the AIe-
ghany mouptaus. In Virginia tho trouble existed
we control OF the natural and easy from tho
West TO tho East. II bad been said that canals
would sell for $40 000 000 He could say that the canals
the people OF this State that In Ave years. or
S. 600 annually. Should the people consent TO the
Of the canals they would pay dearly for their folly
In high tolls and exorbtant charges by railroads.
The question then takon on Mr Grceley's substi.
tute, and IL lost, only six members voting in tho
Affirmative.
Me- CRKsLrs moved 10 amend by striking out the