New-York tribune., 1867-05-16

,reat injustice What ~ the obcct Oh lho Vi"",,b
IL cannot make any appreCiabie difference III tno
constituencies; therefore u can only DC lOl tno r rn
pose of cutting OF by an arbitrary inc h4sS o
quaied TO vote through which great dissatsi"C o
will be caused TO all who come under ltB OIeihauT ,h
was surprised that the honorable member ioI oo
Iamles did not refer especially to the meSiSPSs Lon
lOn thOugh one great city, IS composed Oi nc ot w
Doroughs II man lived the western side OF street
and moved 10 the east sde-say from Mai yleDoie no
Ensbury, from the City OF London TO sOAhwaik-hsc
might wane, and he would never get a eStol"i ~ OF
IA laugh This might be one OF inc mehest C,as ~
artisans who might DC opilgec 10 Inh1 md hs family
order to procure subsistence for hlmsel anu IS 9 S
sure the Chancellor of the EXchcqner shoud thd %
word to say on this qeson ne wSoI tSa EVU man came
INTO borough On the LIST of August lSo ne wp ~ ,,rce
get the franchise nnti the end OF S % We earS before
years and four months; and he might 9 hve years
he could exercise that franchise 3sn M m many enrri
Pp0sf Pp set G f OF %' s R&So the o
ton OF character winch ls now III lio6fi ~ -
This restriction is net for the purpose oi lessebS
numbers; for, after all the lessenng OF nunpeis ~ou
may consider conservative III the sense III VIII" rhe h"n
word has ordinarily been used IL tins House Ino bou M
orabe gentleman opposite must admit II there WIZ %
arguments TO the contrary that the nne
I've had one that all over 4l0 must come III ulucI u
provision and AL under $40 under anOther ana a
bic provisions ana nelleVe tat ,lls SIs" q, In See
IL is the first Parliament elected under ~ WI 80 e0
motion brought forward 10 abohsh1t III WOuI1 peSii
series OF discussions on reform which would LEAD on
year by year 10 greater agitation ana an an
am convinced that at this moment the Chancellor OF me
Exchequer of opinion that this proposition not 10 Va
il the honorable member for North Lancashire tnr'
Wilson Patten)-and there is not more yustlaug,
ing in this House-and half dozen Others wVuu Ky S
up and say hot much in this matter ana they u
any tOr retaining the restriction
do not think il worth while to use one otbef aIEuhl';
because the House seems In some degreeto nave
my view Of the question Sul think ~ IS aosip" me
that IL what has gone before is satisfactory upon the
Whole We should proceed IN the same direction l.sIo
fore think il is unfortunate circumstance tnao %
GOyerment had 10 depart in this matter ana III othoI
matters the principle OF the Act OF lS5! Inc Sl M
cellOr Of the ENchequer seems 10 nave great ~
itft m
filing Original is by no good The Act oi ls52 Was
good in many respects II was pe win regard M 10 h %
franchise and now, after 3j years experience on thc
part Of revising baIrstcTs, ana the declelohs oi w
courts, and seeing that everybody understands What
meant weshoGd avoid creating new disputatlonS ana
prevent great trouble and expense Hear, beall.
have treated this question: az the honorable gentleman
which man should introduce heated controversy. III
the simple question whether you believe your coity
qualified for, they believe they are emitted 70,
the franchise, and whether you CONSIDER ~ -
the register There might be man among TINS class
who though not very distinguished, might DE one on c
most honorable citizens I'M the country and nc would be
three years perhaps four before he would be admitted
Lhe franchise. What j. the object OF TINS nmltaloh
mink throughout the country and even On your
party, there would he great satisfaction II the House
would accept the amendment of my honorable frlchd'
The soNctorGeneral replied TO Mr. Bright, and upon
division there appeared for the amendment 2s against
1t lg7-maiority against the Government 81. The whole
Liberal party except Lord Echo, Lord Grosvernor Mr.
Lowe and Nj Marsh voted for the amendment and the
result was received with oQd cheers. Silence having
restored the Chancellor of the Exchequr rose ana
sad After the decision at which the committee has AZ
rived. not in my power, without further consultation
with my colleagues proceed with the bill which IL now
in committee; therefore must move that You, Mr. Dod
son, report progress, and ask leave 10 SIT again
On the sd, Sir Charles Russell rose TO complain that
some members Of the House were published as being
Vice Presidents of the Reform League, which Association
intended to outrage deeenGy ana IN iiSde afk on ,e
9Th. The members were T. Il. Potter, Thomas Hughes,
McCulOgh TOrrens I. a. Taylor, and The ODonoghue'
The Chancellor of the Exchequer then make the
following statement IN reference to the division Of the
previous night He said wish 20 refer 10 the division
which took place last night on the question Of residence
In the third clause Of the Bill for the Amendment OF the
Representation of the People Iregre myself and be-
heye there are others who regret that te discussion
upon that question. which think important one, was
q 30 bsf eearsSteT ana OF rather hSed
incident 10 our form Of government, and we must
rather regretted TO observe, that some msconctptCn
prevailed not merely on one side OF The house with re-
gard 10 the character Of the qualification az TO residence
IL was argued generally upon what may can the nu
merical consideration on one side as II s only object
10 restrict the number O voters that might under the
clause be admitted by the hill and on the other it, mcr
its seemed TO certain degree TO depend upon and To con
qualifications and particularly that of residence
numbers OF a contrary description that ! should
propose or support such qualification The merit.
principle OF numbers bat of locality The great object
is that the voter should real interest
That think, is sound principle, and one that ought not
be lost sight Of However the House were Of opinion
that the security for connection with the locality
necessarily considerable, and have brought the mat
ter under the consideration OF my colleagues, who
with the bill Although they regret that the local
principle may not he enforced much they de
sired, after deberaton they hought
il consistent with their duty not e defer to the opinion
sh borough franchise upon the principle Of bona de
rating and bo1a-de residence. They believe that be
the sound prDrple and Jnancple which ultimately VIII
he accepted by the country as solution OF the many
difficulties connected with oiis subject Hear, hear
with respect TO the inquiry which has Just been made OF
me by the honorable member for Bradford lMr. W. T.
Forser believe the words which propose 10 insert
the third clause with respect to the point TO which he
refers will reOVe any doubt upon the subject propose
that in line ct page after the word raed shall
insert the words as al ordinary occuper and that III
page line r. after the word" paid shall insert "an
ISar r ~ sme n ,s 90 'y h Ds hysopsh Iny
gentleman viii and think, that that will any
doubt as TO cur aneanng in ose 3, and IL will not,
think he necessary TO make any changes in the snbse
quent clause 10 which he refers but 1t shOnd Of
character. The clause read when complete in this
way " Has during the taoe of such occupation, been
occupied by him within the e0BOugh to all rates. IL any,
and has on or sOre the 5b day Of July ia the same year
ynd annual amount b the pound f0 that pay
able by other ordinary occug5ers in respect of the said
Iuemises up to the preceding nth day Of IanuarS" /
think the honorable gentleman Will find, when he reads
move any snhiety that NAV exist At the same iirse.
while shall the insertion ef these words in the
iasert in the bil clause whs viii repeal the third see,
tOn Of the I4th and 10Th Of the Queen cap IA that whl
is commonly called Sir William Cay>s Act That is an
act upon which b9ce already expressed my opinion In
the House II is tiDk very Vtcous in principle. az
very limited fndeed in applcaon, end that ts proyis
ions are very little entertained by the country. and the
amendment will remove the objection that has been
expressed TO there being difaDence between the
two clxsses Of voters CheerS 4 myself have ex-
pressed before my Opionlon that in attempting
10 increase the franchise Ia ancient country
like England one ought not to be too cur
Gus about avoiding anomalies, beoa1se very often
the pursuit OF such CfOpian lose the
substance OF what might have been obtained Bat where
il possible without ang great Inconvenience and with
Interfering materially with existing rglts-of
course al existing nghfs would be proteGtsdI think it
much better 10 avoid interfering with previous arrange
ments Buf this Is case, partculaT1yiter the vote
hich the &Lnse arrived night which think ins