The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-11-12

NV, these were tho two great points wich IN 1891
upon had 70 deal with the question Of
.orn- Iasss then, were the relations OF Lord
Derby and his friends from 1852 1859 and mark
this 10 1859 you know what occurred. We were
PEELED from power by resolution from Lord John Rus
sell thai no settlement or the question OF reform could
Dc satisfactory which did not involve lowering OF the
borough franchise. We insisted that believing that Is
was policy which ought not to be sanctioned by hs
ward. and feeling confident that Il dsgrAda
ton OF the borough could bring any sasac
appealed TO the country The country did not give US
majority and therefore the Parliament Inc country
were pledged TO the essenng Of the franchise boroughs
That Was settled point Well now. what happened dur
ing the seven memorable that elapsed from 1859 to
1865 when Lord Derby was again called into power aud
when no did me the honor TO ask again attempt
TO lead tho House OF Commonsg lcheersl observe
what has occurred in Parliament the subject Of
form during these seven years They commenced with
the measure OF Lord Paimerston 1861 that Jailed,
and these seven years ended with the OF Lord
John Russell. That also failed, and in the interval
King and Mr. Baines Consequently during these
years the question oil Parliamentary reform before
the public mind aud under the examination Of Pariiz
ment During that period OF Years. with the adj
vice--i may say Under the instructions-o! my col
leagues expressed tho principles upon which any
measure OF Parliamentary reform ought 70 be estab
lshed Now, mark this, because these things which
you may not have heard any speech VIII ch has been
made in the city or Edinburg. daughter and cheers
had 20 prepare The mind Of the cotaay, and % educate
~ be MOI drrogon 10 USE such phru,s-fo educate
our party II Is a large party, and requires its
attention to be called to questions OF this kind with
some pressure had TO prepare The mind OF Parlia
ment and the country this question of reform This
was not only with tho concurrence OF Lord Derby but
OF my colleagues The first great point which il my
duty always TO impress upon Parliament was that we
should listen to nothing that was not complete and
comprehensive measure, that all the points Of the sub
jec Of Parliamentary reform should treated together
the politicsl equilibrium which has hitherto prevailed
in TINS country That is the first question What Is the
secondr Dwng ms.e seven years had 70 vadicate d.
principles on which Acknowledgement and enfrdncttsemcnf
should tate place. l said, 1--WE cannot listen for 9
moment to the assigned for grouping boroughs
We cannot say that the representation OF any place
should DO entirely abrogatsd." We insisted in our
bl that no centre Of representation should be
abolished, and we said, ,For the Increased repre-.
sentasion you want in England you must look
to certain class OF boroughs no doubt to give up
portion of their claim" And what was the third ques
tionr II was whether any Parliamentary reform could
be satisfactory unless you had real and bona fde
boundary commission. What was tho fourth ponta
majority Of the English who live in counties and
that 1t should be done not merely by giving representa-
On ens esS 0~as ~ 1ays into
able number directly 70 their Representatives What
was the fifth points We insisted upon, and supported
BY our vote that the borough franchise should be
tablishsd on the principle OF rating. (Chesrs) These
are the five points which, for seven weary and tosome
years have with the entire concurrence and at the in
sgston Of those who share your confidence endeavod
in the House OF Commons 70 impress upon conscience
and conviction Of Parliamsnt There was change Of
TO consider the state OF the country, 1t was his
opinion that 1t was necessary to bring in = Reform
We passed reform bill loud cheers1 And new ask
70 consider whether the i've points which for seven
Or o", S ON as
complete ana comprehensive We did vndicate
the principles on which enfanchisement and dsfran-
chsefnent should take place. We had grouping We
did not abolish entirely the representation any place.
bur We did appeal successfully boroughs to
wants Of other coositusnciss We did justice 70 the
counties; We did issue boundary commission, which
has examined and i examining Che Psramentar, boun
dnriaa nd md iastv "a "A
establish suffrage for the boroughs which founded
upon the principle Of rating. tChsenl And then am
country for seven years has been so trumphanty car
ried into effect that We have done nothing and that il
say this. that IL You had seen the coun,enance
OF the gentleman who recently made . speech
N this clty whom ! did carry that bl!grea. laughter
ments the triumph OF the liberal party after their tolls
Of seventy years. loud laughter.) must say
saw such . command over the exulation which is
natural and peculiar when he succeeds iD an
object dear TO his heart and 70 his country daughter
you have By what have told you some notion Of what
speech In detail Ia the House OF Commons. There
must be considerable zeal for party 10 induce you TO listen
with much attention narrative Of description
and yet Is not expedient that statements Of this kind
should be made BY those Who however unworthy,
when. week after week and month after month, th .
enormous nonsence that you have listened to(hear.
therefore think that as You have been kind to me
As to ask me 10 be your guest and offer me
he work that / have done, my observations
are not altogether out Of place. think l
have shown 70 you, you will allow me briefly 20 sum
Marie what have said, that perfectly justified
party in dealing with this question: that ought
be dealt WITH and that We have dealt with in proper
manner. tHear, hear.l think have shown 20 you
that the story that have d>Docrdfced country by
estabshin0 household suffrage table. think have
shown to you that the assertion that we have sed and
betrayed friends by giving up ali securities which
talked Of is unfounded and that have carried
on our bill on the principle upon which we always In.
m rio inn rordo
feeling on my part when remember that IL In
quence Of my coDductin consequences Of our unprnc
betrayal OF friends who insisted being betrayed
aughterthat miss to-day the presence Of one Of my
have been welcomed by his cordial heart and by tina.
ripe scholarship which no one appreciates more than
myself. He has commemor,ted the withdrawal of
his confidence In letter which, strange TO say, has
not . quotation. "a laugh.) picture him to myself
At this moment IN the castellaied shades OF
side and the other the conservative surrender
(Laughter.) He who has written the summary OF the
session in the Ed'aorrg 10 not mounted on the asry
barb of Francis jeffrey; he 10 rather placed upon q
ksdre horse, NTH rtch ne consumoes The eaonbent Of
Wing principles loud laughter.) The conservative
volume OF arr OF my friend the chairman-is what one
would call replica You find the subject treated in
festoes Iaughter) The colorng is not without charm
but the drawing inaccurate the perspective is false,
the subject 10 monstrous Great laughter) far be II
thus cSmmenorsss forever y ihe cSissS hat
knows under these circumstances. IT. therefore,
make an observation on the conservative surrender
IS founded entirely upon abstract principles Qsughter)
should say that article was written BY very clever
man who has made very great mistake; the
leaders Of tho conservative party traitors, the
conservative party are false; they do not know
that they have been abused they have not recognized
thai their confidence has been betrayed and outraged
Iaughierl see many gentlemen here who have been.
have no doubt inspectors. like myself rs magistrates
OF peculiar asylums, who meet there soma which
have always thought at the same time the most absurd
ana the most dsiressingn ss cAen M lunaie oeiieres
al fhe eorid 10 mad and that Ne hiraseD loud
laughter and chesrsl But TO pass from such gloomy
imagery. Really these EdRbuvp and Quarterly Rereus,
although no ddmires them han myself--T ad-
mire hen az do first ass fret rate posting horss whicA
~ old days for hcf century OF 90, % ux Manchester
phrase, carried 'ronrino tade" Soon there
SOM revelations proess which person contem-
plated They find things altered tia: they do under
stand them, and iase1d Of hat intense completion and
mutual rindcrsnea which before Distinguished them they
suddenly quite d0ves-e "bootsi oft Blue Boar and s
ch0berm1id Of ne Red Lion embrace and hey quite
~ accord IN n,sin d-nouncin0 Gs sldmy Of rairoods.
loud laughter aud chesrsl Now, 10 occurs 70 me
that hitherto napeak En-