The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1867-12-07

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~ follows .Amcrca1, English, German aud Chi
nese. They were sufe-ing severely from the dcprcss-
.ou causel By tie high tariff. In regard 10 the AREA
Il land iii tor sugt- lac believed tile Islands could
supply the world with sugar. One island i As large
a. Connecticut. and h. Plenty ii water Tor irrigation.
lis Owu idea was tAat the ratification 81 the treaty
would destroy all LOles Of annexation. The Hawaii
an system Of labor souli not be tolerated by "A civil
ike1 government IN thls enlightened age, and one
that had brOSeE up - own slavery system 1t - fear
ful a cost. The Hayaians would want nothing bet
ter than an adyautare III duty equal g. lOJ per cent.
on the cost II the Ia gar AZ the place Of consumption,
and a Government tsat allowed them TO Use cOmpul-
sorry labor, AMI whIC, ON most plantations, took the
form vi "A Mhipyincpost. IL struck him that the
great incentive 10 the treaty came from tbs side. He
could not understand on what grounds a treaty should
he made for the beneit vi consumers which shut out
all the higher grads which families consumed and
only admit low gTaues which were taken by the re-
fneries. What object could there be in excluding
Sandwich Island sagIrs which went into domestic
Consumption AMI admitting the other free 1t was
said that the relaxation Of Il duty Of 10 per cent. on
American manufactlIcs would increase the general
trade. Ii was very unlikely that a difference Of 10
per cent. would do away with the preference for the
cheaper carGoes IF English manufactures imported
direct.
Mr.. Diblee asked what proportion of sugar was
raised ia the island which would come under the
standard Of No. II Dutch?
Mr.. King said that no grower would continue TO
make fine sugars, because it was impossible that they
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pound when sugars passing through the refinery paid
nothing. The Refinery contracts for the low sugars
now known of We're 1900 to 6,OOO tons. Formerly
all the sugars made Ill the islands were above No. II
standard Dutch, and were packed in barrels now a
large quantity was put up i'll bags for refining pur-
poses. No man would think of making fine sugars to
pay duty when he could, by taking less trouble, send
his sugar in free.
Mr.. Diblee asked would this treaty do away with
the importation Of family sugars from the islands?
Mr.. Alphabetically. There was no disputing
the fact. No planter in his senses would continue to
make high grades of sugar. Ii would give the San
Francisco sugar refineries all the trade OF this coast,
and the command of the Eastern trade Tor all their
surplus. The duty saved by this treaty would be
more than an equivalent for freights and insurance
III sending refined sugars East
Mr.. Gordon asked Mr.. King a few technical ques-
tons, to which Mr.. King replied.
Mr.. King attributed the change in the character of
the sugar made by some plantations-he referred to
the new practice OF making low class sugars-to the
inability of small planters to buck successfully against
joint stock companies of great reputed wealth, who
could throw tons of sugar into the auction-room
whenever they desired TO operate on prices.
MIR. Gordon asked if these sugar sales had not
been profitable to the consumer.
Mr.. King said he had known low prices for n short
time turn out To be u very costly indulgence to con-
sumers for u very long time after they had ceased.
In answer to another question by Mr.. Gordon, MIR.
King said the effect would be to throw the refining
busin, - entirely into the hands Of the United States.
Nj. GOTdOH-As raw cotton?
Mr.. kIng-Yes.
Mr.. Diblee asked it any refined sugars were i'm
ported from the Islands?
Mr.. King said the only refinery ON the Islands was
o. L small scale, and refined the sugar by taking
out the mOlaSScs. There was no sugar bakery on the
Island.
Washington Bartlett brought up the favored nation
clause of treaties as AN objection To its passage. a
discussion thereupon arose between Mcssrs. Gordon
BroOkes and Bartlett, in which Canada WAS cited as
an instance that the clause did not affect reciprocity
treaties, and the legality of the treaty was n question
for Congress.
THE OTHER SIDE.
Mr.. Feuerstein, agent of the San Francisco and
Pacific Sugar Refinery, said the production OF the Is
lands had been Oyer-estimated. The centre OF most
Of these Islands were nothing more than barren rocks,
The area OF the land near the shore, which II the only
soil available for sugar, II, the Government says, not
more than $4,000 acres. OF sugar, they could not
produce more than 81, 200, 900 tons.
II membsr-Pounds
-9aoiher memJer-Thousands?
-ur. FSuersfsiq-35, 900 tons of sugar. That was
the outside calculation, if the labor question WAS set
tied, and the labor question was not settled, but WAS
the great trouble of planters. 1t took three years
seven yviIs. ANY plantation sD...-I - tho ratifra-
ton Of the treaty would look forward to four proiita-
hlc years during ITS continuance, but had no prospect
beyond. Would il be likely that for sake Of any
probable profit accruing during these four years cap
ital would go largely into sugar cultivation No.
The question for this Chamber was: Is il bcncfi-
cial to the Pacific coast? 1t was not required into its
bearing on other matters. The sole question was
Will it he beneficial to the people on this coast:
Whether il would he beneficial to the refineries was a
secondary consideration. 1t was a recognized rule of
trade that the cheaper an article could be imported,
the cheaper it would be supplied to the retail con-
sumner.
The treaty embraced other articles, as coffee, etc,
all of which advantages the inhabitants of the Pacific
would reap; for these reasons the treaty ought to he
supported by the Chamber.
Mr.. King said it was Il question whether the pc
culiar form of government would not tend to invite
enuffn1 from other countries rather than the limited
States 10 settle in the Islands.
Mr.. Feuerstein said out of pc planters ten were
Americans and six were British the remainder were
Germans with the exception of one Chinese.
Mr.. Kings experience was that the popular feel
ing leaned to the British. The American planters
were a sort of white washed Americans. Something
like our ships sold during the war, American wood
and work, but sailing under British coloIs.