New-York tribune., 1867-08-09


est ought q be represented intle Legislature.
dad NJ the old GF Fea3 3oS 'gi tba # was SS Necessary to
keep power out OF the hands Of the people lie dG uol
believe that there any scarcity Of bOmuQSense men
IN small districts abundantly fitted 70 iflrdsent tae
people in the Assembly. lie d9 not believe tlat me
county interests identical m al the districts OF
which, ii was composed. 1t was not 80 IN KenSselaer
county.
Nj. SPENCER Rep., staubenl favored m increase q
representation The present number of l2o was adopted
- years ago when the population OF the state was less
than ohShiiu what II Is now some regard SHOULD u5
H2Id to this Increase lie favored election 10y cGunIes
becacse countt towns, and cities arc the divisions Ie
Mr. DAIY d5ein., Ne,y-YorlD had supposed that the
people demanded some change. having heard konethhS
about legislative corruption. He thought me peope eX
ply reGnaotiug the old Constitution lio might DC mis-
taken, but he believed That the people expected some
thing more The difference pel",en 5l ~ ,'i sl' us US
ic nominations amounts only 10 the chOce between one
Ia H ~ 6t % fn throw orcrJoard tie labors OF an able
Committee. Itmay he true tAat an ths tub lDodl itg
satvc corruption since 1876 mas amounted 20 holAlhs,
and is wholly untrue Itmay be best not 10 endeayor to
make any changes that snail seek To prevent cou9puoh
Mr. NJ III LAWRENCE Rep, Yates believed that the
peopc had not demanded change IN the wise PROVISIONS
Gentlemen had expressed their theories of government
he believed that the voice of the people was the voice o
0Sitr Mr.. RATHBUN Rcp Cayuga thought there was no
need OF any fear that the people were to De dede u
Mr. R6BERTsON Dem, n. y was in favor Of County
representation IN the As,rH1S ne t VI ti,at country
from which were brought our own ldsas OF ugoI's anu
law. and has always been retained ana honore le pc
eved the section reported by the Committee wOna ehN
20 prevent the people from scudh mere men NO Oo''"'
MIR STRATTON rep. Now-Yorl0 said that the argu
ment for county representation amounted 10 tH', 'I
were likely to have puIer and aoieT set OF ASaSu
blymen by the present law. lie believed 20 pt Ii
cy. He would give an Illustration INC bo b ot tts
in New-NOrk City were elecled IRON oha
for two years. They had also Board OF C0lcilucn
ed from large districts The COuucllmanc III 1
he lived was larger IN popuI3Soh Iuii SC it1 T6e
Rensselaer, and Washington what was lAe result d.o
Board ~ Aldermen were just as ready 10 sou ~, ~
10 guard the public treasury, 20 CartIuly WttCh S i
terests OF the city to protect public life ana morals as
tho Doqy tha{ Was (osg % M o as vould follow in
tict lie believed lAat INC Same 80 ~ s1,..ia,
the present case The election by counties Was Ho sP'"0
The question coming up on the amendment Of Mt A.
Parker Dem Albany substituting rs members, u was
nj Mr - 'GoNGER Dem, Rocllaud moved 10 amend by
adding al the end of the section provision allowing per
further providing that any such candidate receiving 5000
votes shall be eligible 70 a seat IN the Assembly. Mf.
CGngeC C5cG t sa make t NOMINATION Of & own and give their
candidate scat they can give lin 53oo VOC Li.s
seemed 10 him the only practicable mode OF minority
representation The amendment was lost.
Nh. BICKFORD QIep, Jciersonl moved TO amen" oy
striking out l39 and inserting l45 Lost. -,
MIR DALY Dem. ~ ~ offered an amendment TO DC
added to tho section, specifying that nothing therein con
tsined shall prevent the Legislature taking measures Tor
a representation Of the minority. Nh Day agreed Nltn
his colleague fr Opdykc) that the public mind was not
Vet ready for any move IN this direction The lde OF
minority representation wa, largely experimental bu ne
men who had advocated it. and he did not think It would
be right to cut of the Legislature from taking acton III
this matter. He believed IN the rg4t o. tne %
rule but in this connection he thought there was also
right of the minority to be heard ~, -. .,, os so
BIr PAIGE DEM Schenecladyl llougut O-gtc O y. - ~
much IN the idea OF minority representation til ~ vas M
only justice 10 allow the Legislature 70 taks aC1,
ii m future The theory OF republican ioTih o
government the personal representation Oh al 'no
Mr VAN CAMPEN Clep. Cattaraugu5 offered an an
amendment which was accepted Dy nv D"y ,ia
for separate submission oi the lneo'lou' AHo o'0
Mr. KINNEY d.cp. Tioga) moved TO amend ny allow
C0llntvl represeutatiye OF It's own. Lost
Mr.. L. A. BROWN rep Lewis moved thaj Ing ~, a =,
senbiy shall consist oil Ia AoOei7' 10 DO 'Ho'- ~
aisfI.' Mr s. A. BRowN moved to make the number l
Mr.. MERRITT Rep st. IawreDce) moved to amend
by substituting l59. Carried BY count Oh " votes Ia lH'
The question then coming upon Mr Merwius amen d
ment II divided ana tue vote ordered upon ~ inu'
as referred to annual election by single districts.
Mr.. RUMsEY Gep, steubeu) moved 10 amend by pro
yiding ior biennial StCoI @ ~ 1' VS. ,1terSed 70 follow
this up by proposition for biennial mee'lnK q! I.e
Legislature. II the Convention took action Ia REGARD 70
removing much private and local business from the con
troll Of the Legsature wouid then no longer DC Ag
Mr.. BROOKS Dem, Richmoud) believed this was a
| wise measure, and one OF great public economy. hC
! were too much governed. The people Of whom We say
and hear much viii be gratlLedby tho chs4!ge; c
! Mr. BATHBUN lkep CeyugD stated that @ tne O0i, :,
mttee on the Powers ana Duties Of the Legislature hdl
considered the subject ana h5u uha IlSsy S 49,.
10 report IN favor OI biennial session o the -
This would any rate relieve the Iegslit OF tG at
tendance of
half OF those lobbyists would commit soleiHe' anu '''
other half could find some honorable means OF support
| Mr. C. c. DWIGHT 0tep, Cayugal favored the piOpo
sion which would be modified by power vested m the
Governor 10 call extra session Of tAe Legislature II ue
SIr AYREWs Cep Onondaga Thought that the vast
and varied interests Of the state demanded an annual @
for the Legislature 20 inpeach an uIilatIll cover
nor they would have no power 70 do IT, Tue loet %
novelty and il would be unysc 10 make an eXperlmcu ut
| not asked for by the people,
The question being taken upon thc amendment OF mr
tts F0fn az
taken Upon the first division Of the substitute Of Ar Me
win providing for single districts 1t was lost by vote o
BARKEE sp, p,Is. c9aq!agggq .g moved to amend By
| MIL. w RUSSELL Rep, ST lawrence offered the fol
ing additional clause TO the 5th section: Providing tha
until after the session. aud then shall swear or arn tha
they have not IN any way been guilty OF Official coiFuP
| tio1S Carried nv "A vote OF 81 10 ~.
Mr. GREELEY Rep. Westehesterl proposed the ioi
lowing substitute for me olh section, , !i nil J
shall receive no compensation other thah tle
ness Of honorable usefulness ana the icsltlnB EI@.
Of their fclowcitizens Mr Gieeey & saI t9 g. io t i
honorable, and influential egsatiYe % QOl1s @ u. to W. ~
are unpaid The members OF the British Parliament ~,
unpaid, and cannot receive pay Iie m9PJu @ & ss cotct
give them at least one bOuy WHOSE @ ~ W rb ~,
10 serve the State for honor Ihey ee1 nOt DC iC C
| a poor farmer can do this much for his state
Mr. Greeley's amendment was put to vote ana IosI, 49,
| Mr. FOIGER Q!ep, ontario moved 10 reconsider ii'
10 fbs 5th section bv winch all members Of tho Lcgisa
ture are branded rOgues just as soon hs Jey aIN'
fOn and rotenness true this proposed aendlnth
would only add perjury to the Other crimes oi cortuP
.1o
The honr OF l3O D. m having arrived the Committee o.
the Whole rose and reported that the article was as e
| unfinished. ,...,
| MIR s. TOWNSEND Dem, Queens) proposed o suDsti
| tute for section /, as follows; =, ., a.,
SECTION l. Every ecctOr OF this State shall be eligible
for any Of the offices herein named. The supreme egs
iatiye power OF this IS vested Senate and As
semblV The Legislature. at It's first session after h'
adoption Of this Constitution and from time 70 tlln'
Thereafter shall confer upon the several boards OF town
village CITY and county officers tho necessary ana ap
proprate powers OF legislation aud administration IOf th
] local government of their several districts. ,
nj (npx fttouf lqUf "A
having bv previous vote given the OF the Assembly
Chamber for this evening u the COhlAtoe OIL Auu4Ve
| ntnd and Intoxicating LilnnfS.