New-York tribune., 1867-08-15

not consent 20 havhg GO different Legislatures III lne
state with power to pa laws 1t would be mschieVous
Mr., s TOWNSEND Dem. Quceus said that the Boards
OF Supervisors had already exercised power III
matters far in advance Of any powers used by hc tg
lature He referred the unlimited acton OF tnf M
Of Supervisors IN the OF bOuntles, &C. uuIIs to
late In England legislation was pbttlSaL9 NoH
fined 10 one body; so 10 also III France aq ~ 20
MI LAWRENCE Ciep, schuyler aeIeIuoo o ~" iocol
port OF the Committee in eHdeayopng 70 de1ae io,ei &
legislation and its consequent corruption from 'e Legs
Mr.. GREELEY Rep. westchester said II the amend, io
ment of the gentleman from steupen Was auoeu ing
might say farewell to any reform here OF om the Les
lature. -. o,or,,
upon the suggestion that by constitutional ana n
able the unity Of legislative action s9 % pe
distributed among the 60 counties Of the State Inc CON
vcntiOn OF 1876 went to the extreme OF
and yet they preserved the unity OF legisiatNe
action action VINO r Is iGa1y oIr,s and the Legislature
what is the definition Of local legislatoni This sugges-
Is your remedy for corruption strip the Legislature
Of all pOwersl Itis easy to get rld Oh tno eIls oi
irreclamaie dispersion Of power through the Counties OF
this state will condemn the Constitution that may
Mr.. 0PBYKE CRep. n y did not share the alarm of
his colleague tNir Evarts The true theory OF COVER, g,
ment was 10 local matters to local authorities The
Convention will fail its highest duties If II does not
transfer local legislation from the control OF the Legs
Mr.. BROOKS Dem, Richmond) wished to put
question to the gentleman from New1ork lLVH{s Sa9 %
had put several questions to the Convention Nha hau
been the experience OF twenty years pasta 10 eonns
local legislation to the legislature III ma'IeIs os
70 cities villages left 20 Boards OF supervisors
the Legislature would not have these cities ana villages
coming here year after year Tor egaoH ion on @ ng STe R
Boards Of Supervisors make up list OF nXGd specnc
sums anu OBJECTS, & anu ] on o1dipg sums extending to
upward of 81 100000 These matters should De lelt 10
those particularly and directly interested. .
Mr.. HERMAN Dem, Oneidal was opposed TO Doth
amendments believing they could relieve the Legislature
of The burden of local interests without creating 60 mIna
ture Legislatures He would give the Supervisors more
powers than they have possessed heretofore III the a
mnistraton of county affairs He thought the seventh
Mr. HAND Rep., BrOOmel believed that thelr cOnsltu-
expect reform in this matter OF local legislation
Boards of Supervisors could not be humhueged or de
ceved as 10 local matters and It would not be easy 10
corrupt them in the face Of their constituents -
Mr. DAILY Dem, n. " held that there was a dis
tiuctOn between general and local laws AS 10 e lateI
large general body respect TO the County OF New
York he would say that he was old enough 10
the state OF things when the city was governed uuI
two ancient charters There were evils connected VIII
that system but there were worse evils connected Win
the present system lie Woulq give an CA%adPiH % - ~
the gentleman from Ontario Folgerl, VINO idd neeh
mainly instrumental IN the defeat OF the lnlluous
scheme bill was introduced N the LegsaIurs run run
ming railroad four miles IN length through me hss, var
uable streets and private buildings ln tne Cy oil Ne" VI
York IL involved fearful expense ana sicilnGe ol
property. II only defeated by crowd OF cuIens'
who came here ana protested against II Ia u U 'uU MAKE if
imperative the Legislature TO grant local jurisdiction
under certain restraint. II thing were hghI 10 1t
Mr HTTCHINs (Rep., New-Yorlo believed that # this
soon have IN he decided rs 10 The CITY of New York with
It's great probable growth whether Rome shoud RUE inc
I T..
said that MANY local laws concern all tic people OF
State For, suppose the Common Council. acting as
gars, does it nCt concern the rural dis
frcts Or again is not the Health Officer,
people of the State have interests Suppose case Of
cholera occurs There are no walls To the city Du are
the people OF the state at large concerned IN keeping
10 from preadngi Or again, when AT the dead hol oi
midnight a shameless Common Council chartered a
Broadway railroad, no paper IN New.Hork condemned
the infamous than tnat OF his Trend Mt bioOhs
The peOpe came p here and demanded protection from
the Governor have protected them. As 20 the OH
spoken Of by his friend Judge Daiy, what was
the objection 10 itl Every paper IN NcwNork
had advocated an underground road. and the ln,
terests OF the people demanded II. They proposed
to pay land property used II might De hard Tor
him 10 have railroad pass through DIS Iilh diu over ms
lawn but if the public Interest demanded he must sun
nit For his part he saw 40 objection TO II. ENen u II
Objectionable, his experience would warrant MN
bin through the Board of Supervisors IN NeW-lork
City than hr9Ig4 the statG s amendment
by providing that the Legislature snail pas lave giving
Tr. GERRY Dem. New-YorlJ said that tIe-gcu.lemau
who pretended to represent NcwYOrk tr NutChns had
been elected on general ticket WINE he lAt CeI nag
the honor OF local election lie pt"ceeusI 20 u,itLu
the local interests and local government OF NeWl ok
He nstauccd the city railroads chartered by the epl-a
street, without being under the control OF The !oca! au
Nj HUTCHINs Rep, New-YoTk) said that while he
deeply and personally interested IN the welfare OF
o member Of the Empire state. In regard 20 city rail
roads the Common Council could regulate the number Of
/
concerned What will local Legislature dOi Look at
the Of affairs in Brooklyn There they control the
two or three every street and had caused nCKtrcaDe
confusion He did not believe that any gentleman from
was opposed 10 local legislation, but thought they
should keepa rein uponii equesuon being then taken
Mr FOLGER rep OTtarioJ said that local legislation
must necessarily be very much circumscrbcd lie would
have general laws passed and would hold them strictly
10 that law For instance they had general laws
t6e subject Of banking and had forbidden the Legislature
fO
not had banks enOugh II had worked well II the same
general law had applied 10 village charters they would
nor have had their statute books loaded with special
on the subject SO with other matters IN regard 10
churches changing nants &c In ths manner only coud
Mr. ROBERTSON Dem. New York favored the confer
ring greater power on local boards something must be
done 10 break up this great central system Of lobbying
The people demanded H. and il could bc best done by
power local boards. The grievances complained Of as
existing In the city OF NewYok were the result OF the
constant changes introduced by acts OF various Legsla
/ lures.
protest against dragging the city OF New into ths
debate when had been expressly excluded by the terms
OF the section At the proper time after the Committee
had reported, he would speak upon this subject.
Mr. ANDREWS Hcp. Onondaga) offered an amend
ment providing that the Boards OF supervisors shall have
exclusive control over matters now governed Dy general
laws The Legislature shall by general laws have power
confer sach exclusive additional powers on local affairs
as may be deemed expedent
Mr. ANDREWS said he thought the right principle was
60 jurisdiction Of the local boards exclusive in
all things governed by general acts and allowed
hereafter by the Legislature do claimed that by tins
Mr.. BROOKS dem, kichmOnd) desired 10 state that
within his experience state Senator gentlemen Of
good standing Mr. A. T. stewart and Mr. Haght, large
real estate owners had offered put e 0O 600 in the City
Treasury for the privilege OF running railroad In Broad
way The proposal when made In the Senate by himself
had fallen and run of like water a rock Again, the
citizens OF New-YOrk had found one morning railroad
laid across Broadway between Ann and Fut0nsts, IN
its most crowded part The sabbath had been decorated
the pavemen:s up, and the rails laid The City GOV
ernent had interfere and by the higher law OF self
protection prevent niQues allowed by the Legislature.
Mr.. A. j. PARKER dem, Albany believed that this
matter had best be left 10 the Legislature. They
protect us By general laws This had been successfully
Tried in England He opposed 10 giving too much
power TO Boards Of Supervisors with no check and
veto.