The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-06-13
PROCEEDINGS Of THE CONVENTION.

The Convention met ct eleven O'Clock A. NJ Prayer
by Rev. Ambrose O'Neill, Roman Catholic clergyman
The oasn Of Office was administered to Mr. Nelson, .
delegate from Duchess county
Mr. SHERMAN, (rep) Of Oneida, moved that the Con-
vention do proceed to the consideration Of The
port Of the select committee.
THE PREVIOUS QUESTION
Mr.. ERAsrus BROOKS, dem.) Of Richmond, stated as
member OF the Committee Rules that the Committee
was unanimous in the report OF the rules except to
the previous question: to which rule he dissented The
effect Of that rule was 10 cut or dsbate Such rule
was unknown to q delberative body such as this II
unknown in the State Senate in the United States
Senate, or in the British Parliament II was found
necessary BY and by 70 adopt the previous question he
would have NO objection. II it found that che
right Of debate being abused, then that could be
done But he hoped that st the present stage Of the
session there would be indsposion TO adopt this
rule Discussion could at any time be limited BY the
vote 70 be taken II specified hour He
moved to amend by striking out that rule
n examined The sdOpsd IN Ss
Convention Of 1921 and he found that they pre-
9ss ana ne ~ % nsy SHOULD
would propose those rules a. substitute for the report
The Convention voted that tho report be considered
by separate rules those which objection was made
being considered as adopted.
The Secretary proceeded TO read the rules under that
out q e ss
Of the second rule. He did think that that word an
piled properly TO this body.
the rst subdivision Of the third rule the words other
Rejected.
Mr. ROBERTSON, (dem.) Of n y, moved to amend rule
three by making il read-"The frat business OF each
mall he he m fho
preceding day and the Of any errors therein
omission thsrefromthe last three words not being
Mr. RoBERIsoN also moved to strike out the words
messages frop the Governor" He thought IL might
the Governor and this body Such messages could come
in under the heading Communications from State
o1ceTsn
Mr. SHERMAN, Of Oneida opposed the motion. He
could imagine the case OF communications to the con-
yenton from other States which would be addressed to
muncaton with this body.
The motion was rejected
ps ONT Se U sns 70 q .
cQpmunicaslons" 30 that 1t would read scommunics-
s s iiSa rom, ~ osy::n:s~ The word messages" i'm.
The amendment was agreed to- -.s = z ..a-.
Rule referring to members being excused from vot-
Ing being read, al follows
RglE Any member desiring 70 be excused from voting
mcnced lie may then state concisey without argument
e1cusins shall be taken without debate.
Mr. AIvoRp, trep.) Of onondaga, moved 70 almond BY
striking out the words bcore me roll cali snail BE-
menced, and inserting the words "when his name Is
called on the roll" Agreed 10. Also 70 amend BY add
ing the rule the words bu he shall mot use for such
Mr. SHERMAN, Of Oneida, thought the rule would be
further amended BY striking IL out altogether He made
Mr.. ARCHER, rep) Of Wayne, sustained that motion.
II would bring this body back 70 the old Parliamentary
practice under which every member was bound 70 vote
Mr. LAPHAM, Of Ontario, moved ~ . substitute rule
No. Of the Rules or the Assembly modified as fol-
lows
when his name esIlsa @ inmedi.,ey after the roll shah
brief statement sf she reason for making such reo.e.
exceeding ave minutes IN Tune and the question snail
wsSdrasn without the consent Of the convention 70
Mr. TnDEs tdem.) Of N Y. supported the motion.
pressed and in conformity with recent prsctIce'
The motion was agreed to-
. Mr. ,s. sR n. 3, moved q sub
when the yeas and nays are ordered question shall
leave the house tin he shall have voted and no men,
personally interested In the decision.n
Mr.. CLINTON, Of Erie, opposed the amendment, which
menss for OF agsns, question 70 vote upon n
Mr. GRxErEy combated that objection BY arguing that
every member should be present
MI. CLINTON argued that members might Do properly
absent committees, &c.
Mr.. vAS CAsrxs suggested, as additional amend.
msnt that the doors and windows should be closed and
the members kept in close custody whenever the yeas
and nays ordered unit, the call Of the roll ps COM
plcted
Mr. HAZE, Of Essex remarked that the constitutional
amendment prohibiting slavery involuntary ssrvtude
stood,in the way.
Finally. after considerable discussion, the Assembly
rule, ~ above, was adopted
Mr.. BERGKS, tdem ! Of Kings suggested add-
tona rule that members Of the Convention shall be at
all times entitled to enter the chamber He explained
the reason for his suggestion that he had been excluded
this morning while the chaplain was praying. He did
not know that thus body was more pous than the Con-
gess OF the United States than the churches and he
never knew the doors Of Congress OF church TO be
closed against members when prayer being offered
The PRESIDENT remarked that tbs exclusion OF mem.
oers during prayer was BY no order of hs but he
Informed by the secretary that according 70 custom the
doors had been closed by HE direction.
Mr. BEncEs remarked that II It 10 be understood
that the doors should be TO members during the
hour OF prayer that all he desired. He therefore
withdrew his motion.
On motion Of MI. SHERMAN, (rer) or Oneida, chapter
SIX relating 10 committees and their duties Was stricken
out that matter belonging properly 10 tho report Of the
Committee OF Sixteen.
The PREVIOUS QUESTION AGAIN.
MI sxrrH, lrspI OF Fulton, moved 10 amend rule,
twenty-thr By striking out 90 much related TO the
previous question. That vas . parliamentary power
tnas was used by majorities against minortica But
there was no majority and majority add no party In
this body. Ibs members were all Republicans and all
democrats. They foY forming