The evening telegraph. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1864-1918, 1867-12-26

placed, and one must probe the wound in order
to discover the remedy. You might at least in
know how 10 sing LA Msrseillaise," have
the sympathies of the people of the revo.
luton. But what have you doneY You
appear to Tepel the revolution which
raised you 10 power-you have against
you not only all powers, but all nations. Later
in his speech, alluding to the idea suggested by
strange announcement made by M. Rouher on
the 5th-namely, that France would never allow
one iota Of the Pontihcal territory to be ceded
to Italy-the orator exclaimed:-'In what
position have you placed the various Govern
ments OF Europe, England, Russia, Austria,
Germany" How At he very moment when
you invited these vsrious powers TO a confer
ence, and say to them the whole question is
open at that very moment you declare from this
tribune that you have beforehand taken an
irrevocable decision. ls this wise? Is this the
conduct of a statesman, and worthy of a Minister
of State? The Conierencel Even before you
have convoked II, have you not shameiully Get
1t at nouRht before having consulted it2" Fur
ther on, addressing NJ. Rouher the talented
dEtat, who act yourself against revolution, are
you not the Minister who owes his throne to a
revolution ?n
NJ. oLLIvIBR's SPEECH.
The leading fact of NJ. Ollivier's speech was
that he joined the Opposition, and endeavored
to prove that the Government had kept no de-
finite line Of policy-in fact that the Emperor's
policy differed from that of the Minister Of
Foreign Affairs, and that that Of the latter was
in contradiction with that of the Minister of
State. In proof of this he drew a talented
sketch of the diplomatic dealings Of the French
Government during the last lew years, and final
ly said:-"No! If Italy were divided, as is said,
M. Thlers would not only have to say that dis
tress reigned in the finances and rebellion
among the people, but that there were distress
and rebellion in the hearts Of the people,"
NJ. ThieTs-lt is there.
N. Emile Olivler-No. 1t is not there; and
when see the men who rise up against Italian
n1gsiOng
find that they are the partisans of fallen dynas-
ties who come 20 ask for the restoration of
divine right. prolonged noise) can under
stand the emotion of NJ. BerrYer when he ex-
pressed the immense joy he felt at hearing in
his old age an assembly issued from universal
suffrage proclaim, after the speech of a Minis
ter Of Napoleon, the dogma of legitimacy.
Noise on the lett. Hear" movement)
M. Thiers-show us then the interest of
France.
NJ Emile Oliyier-I am about to do so.
n. Thiers You tear up all our history. We
are here sometimes Italians, sometimes Ger
mans, but never Frenchmen. ("Hear, hear" and
M Emile OLIVIER am about to reply to you.
(Noise.)
N Thiers- If in Germany and Italy people
were French, / could understands; but since in
Italy people are Italians, aud in Germany Ger
mans, | beg of you in France to be French.
('Hear, hear" and applause.)
The President-Allow the speaker to explain
himself.
NJ. Emile Ollivier--You know, M. Theirs, how
much respect and detercnce have for you; and
my convictions, L did not interrupt you; Out the
more superior you are to me by age, talents,
and authority, the more l insist on your hear
| ing me.
| NJ. Emile Ollivier-There are two histories in
| France-one which ends in 1889, and the other
| which commences with the revolution. l re-
| spect the first because know its grandeur; but
/ Onlp the DrlQClDleS the second. |
| understand that those men who can only con-
| eeiye France great without liberty cannot ina
| gine her influential without conquests. (Noise.
Applause on the left.)
III. Granisr de Cassagnac rose, but could not
| be heard in the midst of the noise.
NJ Emile Olivier Cunning towards that gem
| tleman)-My words do not apply to you.
Volce-Ah he is afraid.
N. OLIVIER am not afraid OF any one.
NJ. GTanier de Cassagnac-Ie 1T TO me that you
| apply those words?
NJ. Emile Olivier, apply them to him who
| SAID "Ah he is afraid !"
The President did not hear the expression.
| Had done so, should certainly have called the
interruption to order. (Hear, hear.)
NJ. THEIRS SPEECH.
At the close of NJ. Olivier's speech both M.
! Theirs and M. Rouher rose together, but the
latter-an unprecedented faot-immediately
gave way. M. Theirs said:-
| Gentlemen:-I shall only detain you but a few
minutes, as 1 rise merely to beg you to place
yourselves in the real situation, instead of dis
| cussing the interests of Italy or Germany. (Ad-
| hesion.) What, are those countries only to
have rightsl Shall the House of Savoy be al.
lowed TO create State of forty millions carry
ing of fifteen millions of Germans from Austria
If the mere cry of populations were sufficient
to cause the triumph of such ideas, Prussia
might, in their name, tomorrow despoil Austria
and dethTone the King or Bavaria. Then,
again, turn to Russia. II ali the Christians OF
the East, in conformity with your ideas, we're
to throw themselves into her arms, would you
be greatly pleased? Nevertheless, If what you
say is true, Russia has the right to extend
her empire as far as Constantinople ZAP
quests, as blamed the annexation OF Nice and
Savoy, so should condemn any aggression upon
Germany or Italy at the present day. But we
are not here to consider such conquests, but 10
take account Of those made round about us, in
the name OF the false ideas too sedulously pro
pagated. We dare not say "Stop" | can under
stand that those who introduce such ideas seek
to defend them; but | affirm that they have
compromised the situation of Italy. No sensible
FTenchman would desire to take from Germany
an inch of her territory; but when we are IN
presence of crowns seized under the pretext of
certain community of language, 1t is our duty tC
protest. M. Olivier has spoken to us OF the
policy OF Henry ~, and also OF those of the
Revelation. The first was the greatest, being o
our history, ana the one who best understood
the interests of France. But do you know what
he meant by the word "Republie?" Nothing more
than the union of the smaller States against the
House OF Austria; his project was to prevent the
German unity, which was being formed in the
days on the head of Austria, as II is now on tina
! of Prussia. What did the revolution do for us
After having proclaimed the rights of the human
race il went in directly for the line of the
Rhine! Such was the dsinterestedness of thu