New-York tribune., 1867-09-18

Mr.. GERRY dem. y. y } offered fho following.
i2r That the Board Of Commissioners Of the hsopoaa Police
be De gga,. 90 furnish tbs 1oaysnSn % a. sooa a, Io N. G
n each from the year 1857 20 the 1907 boil. inclusive ,o
Superintendent Inspectors Saigeoas Captains Sgeaas patomn
Ihrd Tie number Inen in each yei expelled or dismissed from the
tore during h period above meaaaei wh The causes OF ground, o.
u year before Board Il against member Of the
force together with disposition complaints during the period
Laid on the table Also the following:
and COUNTY q' HsSYoFs be requested to ] @ Coa- q.
sa as Iiaeie, "h tabular % statement & & ,ho"d5 & ne 1 %
Boa e 7.sen Tine .ni the sra smosS p fT such license
ing the period by whom preferred sheihr BY citizens offers
sTPsd for and reused during the same period foT The humber
grounds Of such revocation.
Laid on the table. Also the following:
Hcsolres That the Boa Of Commissioners OF the MeioPot'H Fire
early practicable with tabular showing Itr The
fc.Psyey and the amount salaries paid in each q .al years
ncnt sd The number of nes engine. added dang te sane PEI
ag each yeaT srtey together With ne c'sl 30 1 l, Of sub 2
The cost Of the and cost Of their keeping i I uun
daring each Of such ven, with The staten eat " g aHaa, Of
probable loss v such le iu each M ~ tle ccor' ~ ie De
Laid on the table.
The consideration Of the Finance and Canal reports
then resumed.
Mr. HALE rep, Essex moved to amend the section
proposed 10 be stricken out that no tax shall hcrea
ter be imposed upon the people 9i ti5 state Tor %3i6s o
ing to the State, unless authorized by vote of the
Mr ByCFF0fR Gcp Jefersonl took ground in favor
Of giving aid for the construction Of railroads The
State had inauguated the policy and II was TOO ate 10
railroad in SchohsTie County Now let schoarie County
be taxed to build a railroad in Jefferson County turn
Mr. OPDYKKE rep n. " advocated the section as
~ tas f tl,, nrs 81 money had been drawn ron
would have been permitted had the consent OF the v9t
becn asked. II was important that such provision
should in the Constitution II was stricken
ont doubted whether the people would ihooiSe 'ho
pefr he submitted 10 thCN
Mr. MURPHY Dem. Kings had failed to hear any
reason why this section should be retained Inc people
- his state were quite competent to determine al any
time whether they would or would not give nu S oaS
corporation. The Legislature speaking ior uic PcoI,
would tel whether such taxaion m n was @ tcpy
could not arroga;e oouseyc an the wisdom % m 1F d
years Exigcnces may arise that VIII ueln'nu
the expenditure OF money. -
After further discussion Nh. CONGLR moved 10 report
Upon taking the question found that there was
Recess TO Z o'clock.
EVENING SESSION.
The Convention met at - o'clock.
The consideration Of the Finance andC Canal reports was
resumed IN the Committee OF the Whole Inc nulngg
question was the motion Of Mr. AlVoru 20 stlIho ot
the section prohibiting the lcyying OF any tax ioI I
noses OF internal Improvement without hrst submitting
''s M C0YGER Dem Rockiandi took the floor against
striking the section. II was important that ihs 'U
vrutO1 should take sueA action as would restrain INC
legislature from imposing unnecessary t0A"iIon ulon
the people. The taxes imposed by the LeEai'%ulo % TOT
informal Improvement IL the last nine years had bcch aa
follows: In 1853 the tax as raised hhOuhieu 10 FlS
COO IN 1859. NO230G IN lsog SISG W. ~ ie, - e. 6o,
" ~ scf m ,-e o I'm ice 81 a1s COO This was sufficient TO
show the Importance Of the section reported ~ INC -
Nj MURPHY Dem Kings said it the doctrine
of the efersonian and Jacks0nian Democracy that the
General Government should not undertake WOr3 9I IN
ternal improvement, but that the states siOuu uO ~
Now the proposition here Is, to smut Out ad 10 in,
nnroyements without going 10 the trouble OF alnehg
the Constitution. lie would not tle up lhe a
this great state that the Legislature couIu ho' noSo
a tax for good and bencent improvements. IS g.. orcr
My. HERMAN Dem. oneida dld not beheVe ~ pIolni &
for the Legislature TO impose tax upon 'no "nor t M
plc 10 aid = railroad project Such pOlcy mus
mate legislation when take money from he oPI5s
nockets and donate It 20 private corporation iof lc
! scnted 10 the same Legislature. He ~onld hot
mpuo corrupt motives to any one, one III os suyh When
such interests combine. For this reason nc WOu1 @
the Legislature and compel them 10 ASK te me pc1p p Tos
evving direct for local purposes Inc theory ' Ws'
at our great Canals were not to be D. W 5 tS
but out Of their own IeyehuEs inc "a C " shall have sur
Plus revenues after paying for their manicnanoG M ,u %
triued about the state, but he was opposed W l"Ae
| The people for these purposes;
Mr E4TIIBJ'N offered the following as substitute IGi
the section proposed TO be stricken out no tM sa t
works of internal Improvement or their debts nSes % m
thorzed by vote Of the people except 20 0i '
naymcnt Of the debts specified IN section one H. Ia
Mr. CHURCH inquired II this was not supstaitimy 'Ho
last clause Of the section proposed 10 DC O"'
Wr W tTIiii-RCU said he was willing to support H. lie
considered tins principle the most important Ol hS 0o ~
tomed in the dnaIice report IL would not prevent hs
son,c tuInoscd any Improvement 10 the canals II teS
weLe resoTatICp but il We did prevent taxa
non for railroad purposes and other Objects Oh @
in,nrovcmcnt then whore Will We stop III Wts nv ,i
nss of individuals build railroads. Tic pcope shoN
/ moi Je taxed for such purposes. ,. s.o,, orloous
Nv kiNORD was glad the gentleman rom OileHs Oi,,
lCbnrclJ had come out IN his true c00is II nv S I
had heen the policy OF the state ~ III Weic Mo ia M
ienr ti'e Tmrire state tO-d1y} We ihCuIu bIo nhu
SO Canal no Chauplaln Canal ana none 0i tIo i~te ~
ca,is n would prt tt the construction OF 6lot
ke the Pacific Railroad, and leave us III T that
h"Itud yl,cre we are now lie would agree Wit iu !,
Gentleman In many Of his positions Dut upon lnIS & l
he must take ISSUE with HIM We nave noT % ,anpsior
| ING upOu us the ChcnanRo Calai At,eioi, ~,
witch must necessarily take soOOOgO Inc Chanpd "a
Canal Improvement which must iikC ' 1Is.;' C,nuI
INC taking out Of the bench walls ia thc LLIe va o
which vOnd take g. 100000 Now allowing tst we 49,
10 have surplus Of 100000 annually, is ~ nt
tb,s sun Will alone meet all these den, ,tu ,hc
tben we are along IN sip-sDOd lnhDiel
people can:sanctOn an amendment 10 .nc ,oonn, of
tnrroee tc canals should be injured to the amount VI
~ "a 400 what wOud we DO thent ,, .oo
~ HARDENBURGH dem, Ulstci) sald thc l+ul -
,ion ~ the article provided for Just such an eIneI
uVe million dollars could be raised and while hdt was
| bsina cxpcBdcd the people could TAKE HcasuIos "
.n,e,d nc Constitution 80 az 10 provide lhe rest -,
"1Sr hIVORD ataclad the Canal policy OF 1876 as hoNV
eafcd Nv Michael Holman The setlemeht thei inao d
sL tIa canals wns fraud upon the pubic "Orks' anu
td >, ne ur0vcu He was opposed 10 Tying W tne Ii,
istnre 30 that they could not take care OF tc "oIA "
internal improyemeht' 49,, o, Ioava this cl,use ia
.ia CanstitniOn the next Legislature coud impose
dlrecf fox suficicnt 10 enlarge the WhOe Inc @ @
tare yould be DO power 20 prevent II. lheIs VIE NE
,nbIn0 In this proposition 10 prevent felali9. ~ @ t
canals we're injured by floods OF enlh1%hr us o notiine
lion would be work Of repairs ana l,fIc WIN t al
to prcseu, Lat Bal se rHy IAetoasuE Vg"'!NsV' '''