The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1867-09-14
LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDINGS.
FRIDAY, Sept. 9Th. (continued.J

40 not think the provisions OF the treaty are eauit-
able Perhaps the United states Senate will not
.nnruve this treaty. which will prove we have no
rght 10 pass It, II the Ministers viii not tire but
answer my questions satisfactorily, may change
my tactics
In the revenueI
2--If by taxes, upon whom will they be leviedr
a-If there will be plenty Of strangers visit US.
how they TO live on cur rich soil1 Withdrawn
ON account Of the laughter.1 .s
Let the Ministers answer my questions
Hon. :. IT. Phillips answered the first question by
few remarks.
Hon. c. de Varigny-In she second
question, will say. we will levy the taxes this
Assembly orders us. II we called upon for
method of taxation, We ean present it. There
reasons why we should give it now. and others why
we should not. We have certainty that the United
States will ratify this treaty The Minister Of Fl
nance is absent; still will, II called upon,
q, the question. But shall have q session Of the
legislature in April when the plan may be discussed;
but IL this Assembly think IL best to bring plan
before them. ~an do
Hon. ). IT, Phps-I agree with my colleague.
We will, IL called upon present our plan before this
Assembly. We do not shrink from the responsibility
although deprived Of the help Of the Minister
Of the Interior. and there doubts to the pas
sage Of this treaty in Washington
Hon. w. Pinehasa Wood wished to be understood
IN favor Of this treaty IL is the greatest blessing
conferred upon any nation by the United States
We are assured Of the friendship Of the United
States. We have always enjoyed IT, In fact, if
ell 70 the United States than to any other nation IL
v 30 her missionaries that am indebted for being
able stand before you this day clothed and civilized
as am. Some members have raisesl frivolous oh
jectious this measure As to the deficiency in the
revenue, as good men here will probably be
sent 10 the next Legislature, and they can discuss
upon this question We have plenty OF time This
treaty IL not for all time; 1t - for seven years IL
we do not like il then give notice to annul it.
During this years shall have three Legs-
htures in session. We shall be able to decide upon
the question of taxation
Ifthis treaty passes il will be n blessing. Each
port Of entry will hereafter have vessel in port.
. Ships coming here will require laborers. and am
Iusksied that many natives will thus have employ
ment I think goods viii be cheaper, and We shall
thus be bensftted- - ~ ~
Hon. p. NIhaolelua,-I came here to consider this
treaty. and I regret To hear some oppose IL The
benefits OF this treaty viii enrich The fruits of
the soil u source OF wealth. The only ones
who will be benehtted those who too Lazy
10 plant cane coffee. L have no fears about the
trouble the treaty will bring upon us- IL will rest
upon each individual to be benefited or not, as he II
ndolent or industrious. We are giving away money,
rs il were, that may make more IL - n CON-
m msrcial contract We understand merchants invest
their moneys, perhaps % lose or gain l feel We
shall gain and so I vote for this bill l urge my
friends 10 pass this bill; let time Is pre-
cious. We may be too late IL we daily. / am not
afraid Of the tax question. The rich must pay the
taxes. The poor have nothing to be taxed for. We
should waste time trifing matters IL pains
me TO hear such frivolous objections Let the next
Legislature trouble themselves about taxes We
need not. There is plenty OF time hope this bill
will pas. ~ =
Hon. C. X Kakani-I yesterday moved the indef-
mite postponement of the bill IL no desire TO
kill il that actuated me, but l wanted to gain time
move the passage Of the bill; but would like TO
add to the treaty some articles-puu, fungus, &e
The Chair ruled that his amendment could not be
entertained
Hon F. H. Boyd-In regard TO amending this
treaty, thought all knew that il emanate from this
Government. This idea Is not new one Il should,
with the Hon. gentleman from Hama, like TO see pulu,
fungus and other articles in the treaty. believe the
articles proposed bat reyected- a" hah loaf
is better than bread;' let Us be satisfied L
understand the benefits which We shall derive
have them pictured in my mnd- The poor, IN my
estimation, will be greatly benefited Ii the planter
prOspers he viii pay better wages One party fears
that the native will lose his land If he will not use 1t
HIMSELF il is better he should let il go. This treaty
viii be good for all classes
Hon. L. Aholo moved that the Committee rise and
sit again Tomorrow. Carried
Hon. W. p. Kamakau, Chairman Of the Committee
Of the Whole, made n report
On motion the House adjourned until 10 O'Clock
tomorrow.
SATURDAY, Sept. 7th-
House met Mt 10 o'clock and opened with prayer.
Minutes read and approved
The Secretary reported that the reply to His Maj
. ssty's speech was engrossed-
His TX. c. de variguy moved, that Committee of
five be appointed by the President to wait upon His
Majesty, and present the reply Of the House Carried
His Hizhness Prince VIM. c. LunaIilo, J. II. Ka-
malo, L. II. Boyd, H. y. Kahulu and II. j. wana,
appointed a Committee for that purpose
Hon j. H. KamaIo moved, =. The order Of the
day Carried ..r ....-... ..=
His Ex C. de yarigny moved, " That the House
resolve itself into Committee Of the whole Car
ried-
Hon L III. Boyd called to the chair.
Hon D. Kalakaua moved, that - The bill to carry
into effect Convention for Commercial Reciprocity
with the United States Of America pass its second
reading. Before / sit down L would Like 10 give a
reason for my change Of views. did not feel salts
fed that the list of goods admitted free into this port
was so much larger than the List admitted free into
the United States By comparing reports Of the
Collector General Of Customs, find that have
advantage in value. At first sight the amount Of
duties RENTED looks large We should have conf
dence in Sovereign and Minister'S; that after
due reflection they have come To the conclusion that
the amount IL as u,thin.s compared with the advrn
tages shall receive from the passage Of this bill
The poor generally complain OF taxation but the IN
crease OF business, and consequent increase IN the
money circulation, will furnish them additional
means for the payment Of taxes. The fact that
American rice Is admitted into ports free Of duty
would seem TO place rice growers Mt disadyan-
gs bat after looking the statistics OF the Gus
tom House il IL apparent that every pound we raise
can be disposed OF without trouble 1 wish that We
could have had our liquors admitted into the United
states free At the last session Of the Legislature
was argued that the manufacture OF liquor would De-
come n source Of wealth TO Us l wish too that we
could have had the liquors of the United States. par
tcnariy Whiskey. admitted free lt would stop the
e OF poisonous compounds TO natives and thus pre-
vent headaches and fruitful cause Of death To the
nation.
hon. l. KAPPA called the Hon. gentleman 9 atten-
ton TO the fact, that we not tacking on liquor
bill
Hon. D. KaIaknua said again that another reason
WY he had opposed the bill because the treaty