The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-12-02

tsress,ur savst,> monts regarding tho paruon'ns
~. W., v,r,.s' aerters by President johnson, OF
also some letters from ae,'ns p, r.a. !, !,
The following is an absts~
supplementary evidence =. go.
Testimony Of Jadsiss N N. ,amh.s ,
Examined BY Mr. ELpsrDoA'~-f The '' Honsa
sn1 ,s the
have produced 70 the commttAe sSossnaa. LIMO,
evidence on which tho scharges vel, sssS sngaget
considerable time during the sessions OF - ~ ans
end avoring TO procure testimony for the .rss ~ oh
tam testimony but Sent him 10 points Tor IN where
could not we'll 90 myself; did not take him to - Son
phfs 20 see Lafayette Q. Baker, SUE no may ha N Mr.
himself; sent him with blank suepGns 70 SUNNI =,
Harris or the person pointed out BY Baker; a. :
recoect from whom procured the subpoena
VUksHoS-Did you write this letter.
FoRrIuTH CONGRESS- U. s. HOUSE, RrPREsSsrArIvEs,}
suggest that petition scnehins Ike ne :,
W. g%nns ma h think DO clearly entitled = y sna nope
Hon j. Hour. Hon A. G. RIppLS.
AxswER prossme did; do not recoliecg tho exact
WORDING Out that Is substantially my recollestion OF ~
who called upon ma.
Did you enclose In that letter petition such ID
suggested oy the letter itselff A. No sir; think she
had one drawn up by her husband; wrote the letter
and handed Il TO her, and thing she put IL u the
envelope which contained the petition from her Aus
Oandi became acquainted With Durham through
some gentlemen calling mo 10 Sign petition for hss
reprieve or pardon; Mr.. Hadford. os New York. frus
introduced me 10 Dunhanys wife and wanted me to
sign paper to tho President for his psrdon; under
stood one OF his aliases to be Gonover cd not know he
hsd any thing do with the tais being
Tho Pacific coast al the time lost all history Of the
mster the petition for his pardon signed by Mr..
Rogers member Of the Judiciary congaistee. and
came acquainted with Duuham Conover had four,
nve c. six interviews with him. D which he promised to
three letters purportips 70 hare come Sesdens
johnson and from President Davis; l. am pretty comb
dsnt that my introduction to Conover was af,eT she IN
troducti01 OF Impeachment resolutions in the Rouse,
Q. Did you write this letter.
.,..r Tsus.par Mos ss.a Apri. is ~
the eleven A. NJ train therefore send yos
e Ss e. put in s ySsr
s sss cam fss s Sy next Monday Wishing
A. Iwroto him note substantially iiksit
Q. What tasemcnt do you refer TO in that lctte71
A. irequired him 70 tell me in writing, nearly as he
fessed 10 give account Of and the an q
residences OF those who then had them in possession
did not know did not talk TO Durham about man,
named Dawson, or man named Allen; held my inter.
course with DURHAM In the reception room OF the Jail
Q DID you write this letter
NY DEAR sra-on my return home to,e"y found your
on TSa.ay ana w see you that day Or
nc asa DSuse aay ySIa rsnd NJ ASHLEY
A. I.wrosea note Of that import, Ipresume.
Q Have you that staiement9 A. have not; fsent
II 10 Match0tt but think get IL.
Q Did thai Bu1ate to . charge against tho President
Of having had TO do with the OF President
Linoolns A. think there is u declaration In that state
nent that he Dunham is cognizant OF The
letter which would impcate the President in guilty
knowledge OF the he made that statement
oSs % ass
there was nothing in tho paper which was OF value
to me, and did not bring It to the notice, think, Of
single member OF the committee; think never
showed to General Butler, there enough Ia
Il to induce me to do tho satoments were exag
gerated that Idd not spend much time after got
IT. finally said to Dunham III you get me the letters
then whatever ard can give you viii - sont the
paper got from Durham TO Matchet alter SOME publ
cations came oat In this city, aud he told he never
got II until few days ago; don't believe
showed the statement TO single man; there we're para
graphs in the paper which related Johnsons supposed
guilty knowledge Of the assassination.
q. Did this appear in The paper For the names Of
Dawson and Alien used by them leave blanks substi-
tute the names OF such persons as you know will take
their place. A. No. sir; am very clear that there
was nothing like that In the statement
Q. Why did you send that statement away after this
talk about IL Ia the papers, A. ! was q, home In.
Toledo, and sent 1t here to Mr.. Maicheu because he
eau get !, Tor the committee now II they wan. Il;
did not think IL Of any usc might have been true for
all knew, but certainly would not undertake to look
il up.
O. Have you stated to members or the House Of
Repesep that had evidence your possession
may have said that had statements, made in writing
and otherwise by this man, which induced 20 believe
It; had evidence which regarded sufcien; Tor
tho conviction OF criminal before jury and hence
never presented " % me COMMITTEES. -.,. $500
have told members o: the House Of Representatives
,ns , yoa Saa 0I s 90 wn
In the assassination OF Mr. Lincoln Wtness.--I have
said that believed, from all that had been able 10
gather during this investigation. tina, Mr. johnson had
guilty knowledge Of the assassination.
@ You have said that before; repeat the question
put IL before, and want 70 Ii specih.
caliy. wltpcss-riave not answered ity
Mr. ELpnDGE-No, cir, think not. repeat the
questionHave you stated 20 members OF the House Of
Representatives thai you had evidence which satisfied
you that Mr. Johnson was implicated In tho assassna
lion OF Mr.. Lincolns A. Yes, certainly have.
evidence 20 the com mii.eo Because was not o.
that legal character which would have justified me In
presenting NJ II satisfied me from my standpoint. and
q Then what did you mean by saying that Jon had
no evidence In your possession which yoi considered
would satisfy tho great mass Of man. especially the
men who do not concur with me In my
, Theory about ssog, this matter, have nsd
that President Harrison and President Taylor and resl
dent Buchanan wero poisoned and poisoned for the ex
Presidential Office In the two Grst instances 10 sue
cessful; II was attempted with Mr.. Buchanan, and
failed; IL succeeded with Mr. Harrison and Mr.. Taylor;
then Mr. Lincoln was assassinsted and from my stand.
point could come 10 conclusion which impartial men
holding different views could not come; Il would NOS
amount 70 legal evidence the evidence satisfied mo.
just as man WIN say he Is satisfied person IL guilty OF
murder, when he escapes n trial before jury:
the conclusion did reading am hearing the state
men,s made 10 me- have presented all the facts that
any thing OF In reference TO this matter General
Batter since his COMMITTEES Was formed sspeclslls
charged with this matter, and have talked
10 him and given him whatever information
had and my neutrality-suspicious. II you ll-as TO
Mr.. Johnson's completely In the assassination;
led TO believe. by the statements Of baker and other
men, that here letters Ia existence 10 show Jchn
sons guilty. knowledge, 20 far as this committee wN
concerned ss made no specific charge against The
President that head, did not 70 cay anything
the committee about ii would not make she obarge
on bare suspicion, bat had statements coming 70
from variety Of sources which brought 10 believe
that Johnson had guilty knowledge, ssthss before
after the fact; was anxious 10 gel any ovldesce 10
maintain the charges had made, and did not soc
very we'll how general conspiracy c0uid have existed
and guilty knowledge Of the great crime Of asssssina
ton without something else being disclosed 90 mAntan
the charges which were already before Vie committee for
Investigations.
Did you write this lsttor 10 Couovsrs
SATURDAY, A. NJ, June l, 1857.
DxAn srR-your note Il inst received Let your counsel
they deem best taking advantage OF every legal pout
which may be presented. think tho Proposed by
them all thai we want Truly, M ASHLEY.