New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-08-12

borougRs. He did not think was desirable lay down
any mt but that the of each borough should be
considered on its own merits, and its representation
transferred to whatever place was more worthy of and
more entitled TO it. With respect TO the Increase
of the Scotch representation he should prefer that
the seats should be taken from small English con-
sttuenCes and given to places in Scotland that were
worthy, rather than that the of members
OF the House OF Commons should be increased He also
suggested that desirable TO give three members to
the largest counties and divisions OF counties rather than
divide them into three constituencies The claims Of the
metropolis stood on different footing and the Govern
met had given It far proportion OF the seats at its dis
posa ii the scheme enlarged as he hoped would
De IL might be desirable to further acknowledge the
claims OF the metropolis In conclusion he impressed
upon the lords the policy Of making the bill complete
as possible that there might not be the slightest pre-
text for further demands
The Earl of Malmesbury defended the Government from
the charges which had been brought against It, not only
of inconsistency but Of organized hypocrisy They
bound TO consider the circumstances OF the times in deal
ing with this question IL hardly TO be expected that
this bill should he complete for IL Of COM
promise and il was only possible TO pass it as compro.
mise The House of Commons had occupied five months
in passing IT, and it only passed then after repeated
discussion of every possible point and the exercise of the
highest diplomacy and Cancellation on the part of the
for their oTshps at the eleventh hour to interfere with
scheme that was the result SO much time and labor
and which peculiarly the province OF the House OF
when carried out in its details really amount to another
reform bill ana could they expect the House Of Com
mons To go through all their abOrs again at this late pc
Rod of the session The only result would be TO deoat
the bill for this year. and throw the question again into
chaos and confusion.
Earl Russell remarked that 1t was impossible not TO
feel that within few years there would be agitation
for great change in the distribution of seats and IL
in their power TO prevent It. If the Government
Induced the house TO reject this amendment they must
take the responsibility of the agitation which would
undoubtedly be raised In very short time.
The House then went into a committee on the Bill.
An amendment by Lord Cairns raise the lOdger quail
hcation to SIS was carried by l2l 20 49,
On clause the Earl of narrowly moved to raise the
cOpyhold qualification from rs TO $40 The Lord Chancc
Tor agreed the amendment Earl Granville hoped that
tbp m Of
kind, which after all would have no practical effect on
the operation of the bill After discussion the
amendment was carried by ll9 TO 90.
AMENDMENTS TO TIE REFORM BILL.
The following additional amendments to the Reform
bill had been given notice of upo the 10th. the day on
which the House of Lords entered upon its consideration
in Committee.
Earl Grey will propose to omit altogether clause =,
which aboshes compromising by relieving the owner Of
his liability pay This clause it Will be remem-
bored, occupied long time In the Commons and is in
fact the radical clause OF the bill Rating Household
Suffrage without this clause would not materially enlarge
the present constituency.
Lord Cairns will move the following new clause:
AT contested election for any county or borough
represented by three members person shall vote Tor
than two candidates At contested election FOR
the City of London person shall vote for more than
Lord Romily viii propose to give the boroughs which
have been DISTINGUISHED on account bribery
chance whtewash themselves, and will move that, in
stead OF being altogether dfranchsed, they shall send
no members TO Parliament until 1850 , ~,
Lord Denman will move the following clause in place OF
clause
In the event of returns or return of any member to
serve in Parliament 10y less number than Oneiourth OF
the registered electors whether sSh ucSeuCy vi Not
be caused Oy TOO great NUMBER Oh cahOuates OF ny te
indifference OF the electors 10 the use OF their votes
shall be lawful for the House Of Commons TO order fresh
election or elections until what they may consider SUI
stantal representation of the electors be arrived at
Earl Grey will move that the two additional members
proposed TO be given 20 Birmingham and Leeds sha De
given 10 the Inns of Court as follows:
coins Inn the Tuner Temple the Middle Temple, Grays
Inn and sergeants' Inn sha gether return two mem
atlaw belonging to the said societies respectively, and
duly entered upon the books thereof FOR the time being
shall be entitled 10 uotc for such mcmbers'
The Marquis OF Salisbury father OF Lord Cranborne
will TO insert clause, after Clause ~ having Tor
for any county borough In lieu Of attending ~ person
10 vote under proper regulations by voting paper
Then place OF Clause A., which enacs mat person
holding office under the Crown shah not yacate his seat
exchanging that Office for another Earl Gray proposes
member OF the House of Commons shall Nacaie
di,i,ty hun froni Sittng in Parliament II reelected
And TO follow Clause AZ he proposes another follows
Whereas ali persons employed in the collection OF the
revenue are now by law prohibited from voting inter
erDg in elections and there Is no reason Tor making
distinction between this and other departments OF the
pnbc service; be il enacted that this prohibition shah
extend to all persons employed In the civil service OF the
Government in any department, except those hoiuihs
offices tenable with seats M Parliament
The Earl OF Devon proposes clause in place Of
Clause relating 10 the issue OF wns TO the County a
atine OF Lancaster. Lord Cairns has necessary quHh-
cation Of Clause So and prOysO ordering that IN the
event OF dissolution OF Parliament before the ehd OF ms
wear II shall be followed by election the rs th-
cro without respect to this bill except that the dsfan-
cbi,ed coustItuenccs shall not return members. Then
we have the following clauses: LORD Halifax pro
poses TO move that no person shall be entitled 10 vote for
county member ia respect Of any premises situated III a
borough II ne would be entitled to vote IA respect 81 suc
| premises for borough member; and the Marquis OF
Canricarde proposes that tieemCn admitted II orO9sS
after this act operates shall not be entitled ny Their iiee
dom to for the election Of members OF Parliament
| MEETING or LIBERAL MEMBERS OF PAELIAMENT-ACTIoN
! OF TIE LIBERAL PARTY WITH REGARD 10 Thu ROYAL
| PARKS BILL.
On the 2sth Of July conference of Liberal members Of
! Ivy he
/ room of the House OF Commons. consider the best
means TO adopt for defeating the Government bill sup
pressing the right Of meeting in the Parks Upward OF
thirty members present, among whom were MessIs
/ Bright Locke Harvey Lewis, 4. Hughes, AyrtOn,
| MCullagh Torrens. =. A. Taylor, Dalgsh Hadhed,
| Holden Candlish, Mcguire, Dixon, NhdIcy, LeicEIc
COWcu Stansfeld, Clay aud White, NscOuht AhDeilcy
pied the chair. Mr. 4. Beaes and depuation from
the council OF the Reform League were also III htlehd
deierug any legislation the subject until next session
should he defeated, he thought would be the duy OF
the Liberal members 70 make use OF every CONSTITUTIONAL
form allowed by the House 10 prevent the passing OF the
bill during the present session. The League desired INC
estjou 10 be settled by Parliament itself and not 10
rIubarrass the question by any action ont OF DOORS Dut
tbev were determined offer every legal opposition To
The hin and were prepared II necessary to hold Of
he largest demons yet held in Hyde Park TO pro
test against H. He trusted, however the gOOd sense OF
he Government or the united action OF the Liberal party
ouIS oyate fine necessity OF any such step being taken
Messrs Taylor, Fawcett WhaleyISr John cray anu
other members declared their nrenOn III the event OF
Mr. LOckes motion not being carried to avail themselves
OF every form OF the House 10 arrest the progress
/ of the bin Mr. TOrrens. NJ. T., thought IL would
be premature for hon members to decide upon any III
turc action until they had the result OF MI Ockes
motion. would be diguhed TO await the decision
OF the House that motion; and from WHAT ne hau
heard whlh the last hour he had good grounds LOT De
hevng that motion would be carried. Messlb LuclaIt
ana MerIiman OF the League having offered sOlnc com
ments the general question, Mr. Candisi M " &lu
Inc found the suggestion OF the AhOn. member Tor fhsp
with the general concurrence OF his Hchds arOuu
him. He would, therefore, move that IN the event OF
defeat OF Mr Lockes motion another conference OF lD
eril members be at once held to decide upon some
united action the further progress OF the bill
Several hon members having supported the motion OF
Mr. Candlish, il agreed TO, and the proceedings