The New York herald., 1867-02-08

the Freedmens Bureau bill on the 22d Of July last uhth
subjected every one Of those States TO IT'S prOyioas
untl they should be restored % hsr constitutional re-
NJ BOUTWELL, said there was no distinct dsclarsAioa
In the Freedrnsns Bureau bill that they we're States
Mr BINGHAM asserted that there vas such dlc'ica
NJ. bourwrL suggested that that ein rscoSai.sS
certain States and districts as subject 70 .s provs
Mr. LAWRENCE, trep.l or Oni0 remarked uAs saes
Mr.. BIs;nAH added, yes and political stairs, and
quoted the lst secen OF the Ffeedmens Bureau Ian "a.
bear out his views He asked Mr.. Boutwell, whether hs
going have so little respect ior ms oatn ~ say
now thai the State Of Virsin in which Jem Davis had
been indicted for nigh treason had ceased o. Sa,.
by that treason, that he could no longer pe nso 70
for il In that State because the sass n nos
son should be held to only in the State and
the d,sric. in which be committed the crime.
Mr. EIDRiDG9 begged again TO reminG Mr. bas2haR
that his question remained unanswered
Mr. BISGHxn said that the amount Of s that shoss
States having entered into the rebellion and broken OF
their constitutional relations with the general govern
ment tho unlimited power for the common defence
throughout the nsugent States was exsrcsabe BY the
Congress Of Unied States by the very terms and
tention Of the constitution and that power consaed u
the Congress. NM
bill would have on the existing State organzat aps or
the south.
Mr. BINGHAM replied that the 6tate gOvoYnu0nh would
exercise their functions under this BILL by shs suffer
ance Of natou and only 10 the extens thai those
commanding officers might permit He did not sup
Organized zoyernment, the night 70 On and erfors
simple contracts between man and man. He did not
suppose that il intended enforce contracts The
law Of marriages divorces through courts artia
Mr. MArNARD inquired further whether The passage OF
this bill by Congress would commit u 20 Ear to the
recognition OF State organizations ~ TO ombarrass
il hereafter II thought proper to set them aside
MIR BINGHAM did not suppose It would, because Con-
gress might require those State governments TO ge sf
further
had read amendment which he proposed TO offer 10
the bill t@N
Mr. Hlsx, tdem Of KY, protested against sis bin
nding shade OF warrant authority IN the CON-
sttuiiQn, and he ntmated his willingness 70 yield tho
floor this evening if he should have hour allowed hun
dozen members objected to any interruption sf the
regular course OF the debate and 30 Mr. Hise
with his constitutional argument against the oa and
showed that II proposed to establish purely military
despotsm, in which no right VI citizen would Do
recosnized respected.
House had become considerably thinned out Nh Wright
provoked genial laugh by Ravely suggesting call OF
the House; but Mr. Hse continued without paying any
attention to the interruption.
Mr. LYNCH, lrep, of Me-, sent to the Clerks desk
amendment which he proposed to OFFER and wsich was
Mr. ISGERsoL (rep.) OF H., took the floor discuss
The bill There were two sorts Of Statesgeogsaphrai
and political The cte tnsurrcctoDay States
were geographical States but under the cons,
tuition, political States in the Union There
middle ground possible They we're either states os a
purposes or they were States any purpose what
ever He held that those States having gcns into
blon, had DESTROYED all their civil goyernmenis noder
vailed they became territory Of the United States The
recognition OF the Southern confederacy dc fao gov
ernment bad been complete both al home and ABROAD
and no challenged any one TO show such historical
parallel when rebel power recognized by the old
government and by a other nations ds fGto govern
ent He drew from this The inference that the
tory covered by the rebellion bocame conquered teL
. Hr ,RAsDAr1. OF Pa, referring 70 a remark Of Nv
Ingerso about greenbacks asked him whether he
gxrdcd tho las declaring them legal tonder exercise
Mr. IxGERsoIL admitted that II such thing had beeo
attempted when there or other great national
exigency IL would have besn unconstitutional. He
illustrated the position of the Southern States by ht
II Mexico after the United Sato9 tUope had conquered
.s n " war io,s e - ~ y sa ns
had been no treaty Of peace and NO declaration Of peAs
with the Confederate Ssares hs govevnmens had ncs
would until full guarantees given FOX The pro
lection Of the civA and political nights Of all the people
Mr. BSoHAM interrupted ana rspsstsA hia ascarston-
that those iasureconsry States remained States ana
not them there must be sssnsras jaia delivery in tscss
Mr. IxcKxsorI held, nevertheless, that when State
had gone to work and destroyed its constitutional organ
izxton it ceased 10 exist State. Wherevar The pen
pie Of the South reconstructed TO loyalty the Sses
woud reconstruct themselves The PrsGldsnps plan or
no one might hesitate to vote for il lest night maize
matters worse in the South things there were bed
As could BE- They should therefore sr sh,s S, h
Grant He was confident that they would " exercised
firmly. wisely and judicioasly as he had asays exer
cised his powers IL might be said that the President
Commander n-Chisf might rescind any ordd tnss Gen
era Grant might issue He admitted that tns President
might do SO, but he would do 80 on his hrespoas
Nc RAsoArr OF Pa, asked Why il was tns the Presi.
dents authority which had beon in this bin visinay,
Mr. IveEn.oII,--Irwas because the people, u we'll ss
Congress, dare not trust him with such powofA
DIR. RANDALL. remarked that the constitution trusted
such powers 10 the President u. lHF tgl
Mr. IscRs went q say that IL the ssIection Of
general officers to command districts let "
President, he would not select sucn men Grant, or
sherman, sheridan, or Heintzelman, or Howard or
Thomas, but would select those who would yed willing
Mr. HfsK asked whether, II the Prendept coqia sel
aside any orders issued by General Grant snere sss
Mr. Ix,IKssoLI replied that he did not think the Prcs
would have the pluck 10 do II and he refused
execute me laws Of Congress Il would DO good ground
of impeachment -
Mr. sraousr, dem, of Pa Tho only ground you will
ever have .ns a9f e1
Mr.. lsasasoIL did not know that; but he did believe
thai Congress might we'll stop the consideration of
the question Of the Recommendation OF the souihera
states and OF the Southern people and turn their
ton he Reconstruction OF the President He thought
necessary for Congress 10 consider whether would
continue this effort for two years longer with that
mount obstruction In the way Of rcconstr,ciion--the
President VI the United States M
Mr. TsIsnrx, tdem.) Of Ky, inquired whether tho
ercisc BY the President OF ms power "a.
revoke the order Of subordinate ofcer cond be re-
garied ~ good sround 81 impeachment
the constitutional to rescnd the orders of General
Grant but Congress would have the right 10 inquire tor
Mr. Tg,xnIs inquired further whether Consress had
the power 10 pass bill overriding the constitutional
Mr. IscSRsoli declined TO admit tha, this bill aid 49,
II Lett the Presidents power whsre the cons;tuon
= neither amlnish,us linn Nor aag%snsng J. Il Simply
charge certain duties he went on to discuss the general