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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
THE COMING ELECTTON-COUNTING THE
totes

Great confusion and uncertainty will be
avoided in the canvassing of the votes to be
given ut the election next week, if canyassers
will follow out the laws of the state on the
subject, and in this City and Brooklyn, the
practical directions prepared 10y the Police
Bureau Of Elections
BY the 9th section of Article ., Chapter .,
of the Revised Statutes, two boxes, one State,
the other Judiciary, are provided for, with an
additional Senatorial box for NewYorl City,
and Assembly boxes where there is more than
one Asscmbyman TO a county. In 1866, the
following law was passed applicable to New
York:
AT elections hereafter to be held in the city OF Now
York, the boxes used receiving the ballots tercat SHAH
be marked and numbered successiyely follows Num-
Der one, President number two, State; number three
CO0ress number four Senator; number fve Assembly,
number six. CITY aud County number seven, Charter
every election hereafter be held in said city, such
beers of marked aforesaid shall be furnished
may be required Dy law 10 receive the pos 10 NC uheu
at such election"
Another box, number ten, was added in the
next year for School Officers. Numbers seven,
nine, and ten, are charter election boxes, and
the only boxes at this election are two, four,
five, six, eight, and the Supervisors box.
The following provision IS applicable to the
the State be cQnrdSSed m the t0HOTinG order
as far as number fire inclusive, and IN the
cify of Neu- York through the whole list:
I. Electors of President.
III. State Officers.
Ill. Members of Congress.
" Senators.
V. Assembly.
VI. County and City (of New-YoIl) officers.
VII. Town and Charter officers
VIII. State and County Judicial officers.
TX. Police and Civil Justices.
This was corrected, as for all tho counties
except New-York in the next year, by placing
the judiciary (State) box next to the Assembly.
The rest was allowed to stand.
The law provides that the canvassers shall
count each box i'm order before proceeding TO
count the next; but il is desirable That, in trans
Knitting the results for the public and The Press,
that on the state ticket (unless unusually large
variations occur the rote for Secretary Of State
atone should be giren, leaving the other names
ON That ticket to come in later. There are II
candidates ON that ticket In Ncw-lOrk alone,
which is but One-fomth of the State, the dli-
ference in time saved may be thus stated: On
Il names with go election districts, 3iSO dis
tinct hansmsson3 will hc required and, as
there j. au average of three figure. Ia cac5,
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

In cast no general European Congress shall
convene for the settlement of the Roman Ques-
ton, Rome, it is reported is to be occupied 10y
the Catholic Powers conformity. Such an occu-
patton, connected with joint guarantee OF the
Temporal Power, is an old fayorite "Napo-
"leonic idea" The accuracy of the report Is
however, very doubtful. Only Spain, thus lar.
has offered to aid France in the oppression oil
the Roman people. AS regards the other
Catholic Powers, there is reason for believing
that nearly all of them will wish to be eX
cused from joining Napoleon. Austria, Belgium
Portugal, and Bavaria are Constitutional Mon
archies whose rulers will not disregard the
wishes of their legislatures, all of which Will be
sure to protest against the occupation OF Rome
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
movement for which the previous consent OF
France had not been obtained.

The Italian Government has officially an
nornced its intention to march its troops into
the Papal territory. A tremendous agitation
prevails in all the large cities. Garbaldi, whose
force has increased from four battalions to
t,ventv-two. holds control of the whole Papal
territory, with the sole exception OF the CITY OF
Rome. The railway between Rome and Clylta
Veccbia. which is now held by French troops,
has been broken up. The unity OF Italy Is
actually complete, but the army OF Victor
Emmanuel is advancing in order again to
destroy it.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
THEY DARE NOT EIcE TIE RECORD.

THEY D1RE NOT FACE TIE RECOED'
The World contrasts the late speeches OF
Speaker Collax and ex-Gov. Seymour (Which
we wish every voter in the State could read
together betwixt this and Tuesday,, and com
plains thai the Speaker talked of Democratic
treason and traitors in our late Civil War
calling some of the latter by name-which be-
comes a Speakers duty when those in his eye
behave too outrageously. For this, The World
SAYS his tone was that of a blackguard;'
while, on the other hand
"Gov Seymour was ruling ~ lf me- de9d p0fi go and
like true statesman, couflod h!, views 90 tho future
welfare of h, country
This was a plagiarism of The Governors.
He took il from the cmprit whose oiienses a
judge was stating and experimenting before pro
ceeding TO pass sentence. Sir" said the cul-
pit. your conversation is di,agccable in the
"cxtremc-in fact, it i ol1cnsye-and, unless
"you mean to be personal, l will thank You to
Change the subject"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

One vote may elect State Senator, and the
vote of this State Senator may elect United
States Senator in the place OF Edwin d. Nor
gan. Bear this in mind, when voting on
Tuesday. Vote for WILLIAM w. GooDRIcH in
the Id District, GEORGE p. WILEY in the
Hid, ANDREW w. LEGGETT in the WITH, WILL
LIAM b. WHITE III the With, WILLIAM T..
AsHuAN in the With, CHRIsTOPHER PULLMAN
in the With, and WILSON BERGMAN in the
With. But before voting you must register.
Do it without fail, to-day.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The whole Revenue force in this City-not
less than One Thousand stTong-has been
squeezed for money to help run the Copper
head machine Here is the call employed to
squeeze them:
"Wo the undersigned gratutously appropriate the
amount set opposite our for the cause OF our
country and opposed to the Impeachment Of President
Johnson"
of course, the Collector, Surveyor, &C.,
will do what they like with their own; but
isn't it hard to make poor fellows stand and
deliver who wish Johnson and his gang were
all up in Walrussa, and that no vessel could
touch on that forlorn coast for the next two
years
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The Republican State ticket bears the names
of three of your late comrades in the tented
feld-Col. MCKEAS OF Saratoga, Gen. GATrs of
Ulster and Chaplain DE Ia Mlrrg of Wy
oming Do you find any man who ever saw
the faces Of the Giaybach- on the opposite
ticket!
The Republican City ticket bear, the names
of private ApHE for Sheriff, Adiutant lIAG-
GETTY for Clerk, and DR.. NoRyAL for Coroner.
If YOU find any one who was with You down
in Virginia on the opposite ticket, say so!
Major CHARLES SCuURIG, who LEFT an arm
on the battlefield. is running for the best Office
in Kings County, against stay-at-home pol
itician who has held it and enjoyed It's large
cmolumcnts throughout the last six years.
Hadn't lac better stand back little, and let a
man come up who can get but one hand into
the treasury They do say that onicc-holders
of all parties are apt to help themselves rather
too literally. 1t can't be bad to try one
armed soldier just once for experiments sake.
Boys in Blue! vote to give your old COM
radcs u chance! Some of you may be needy
yet, and one good turn will invite another!
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
REPUDIATlNG DODGES.
The Herald saws;

The Herald says:
EO sensible person proposes, suppose 60 Issue two
thousand millions Of Government money and pay of the
debt az once with that"
Yes George ii. PendetOn does propose just
that. Henry Clay Dean proposes it. Vallan-
digham proposes it. Every Western Copper
head Of any account proposes it, And you are
deceiving your readers when you assert that
they do not.
The Herald continues:
What Is meant by paying I'm greenbacks Is 70 keep
much OF that currency aOat the country reasOna
bly, bear and by means 10 contract the present amount
tn all or large portion OF the debt be qudated Ihat
10 the proposition and that. think, - what the country
will come TO- Aud what injustice would be done VINO
would De njurcdl Nearly all Of the bOndhOldcrs would
DO paid more than they 0Qre tor ne donds''
Here is the old game OF scaling the debt,
which Hamilton put his foot on in 1890. a man
walks up to the Treasury and says, Nh.
" Treasurer, here is the promise of the United
States to pay $1,000 to bearer on demand; |
"want the money" "Well, here is $685. res
ponds the Treasurer it is all that the bond
cost yon' If this is Mt the answer Of a
scoundrcI, then there never was scom-
drcl
To determine how much grecnbacl currency
.g'e country can reasonably bear VIC should
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
amrstntnts.

ACADEMY or MusIc-Ths Evening The Ain
CAP" Mime. Louisa Kapploung. =,
WnI,cK,s-T1iis Evening-"New Way to Pay
on Debts" .r -,
N,pros G,rDEN-TmS Evening" The Black
Co. ;r..t psrsiruue Ballet Troupe
OLYMPIC TmtTER-This Evening" Nidsuhl-
me- Nelts DreanT-M,s Fanny stockton. MI g. L. FOX
FRENcn TnEATER-Ihis Evening"" The Grand
Duchess OF Gcr0!'itiu ,,
Fu-ru-AvE THTATER This Evening" Inc
Merchant If Venice Prcserye" Cinderella Nj NJ W. Lehng"ei
Mrs Seley br'ah 600.
WorEPI SISTERS NEw-YOEK THEATER-Ihis
Irerfnr-" Fauchou the Crcket'-Mis Fanny Price
B,ENUM'S AMERICAN MUSEUM-Day and Evening
-" Pale Jauet"-A Living Godlh-J0,Oto Curoshes.
NEw-YOEK CIRCUS, FOurteenth-St.-Ims Evening
-Fests OF Equestrian
BUNYAN HALL Union Square-This Evening
"The Pilgrim" -,
BtNVARD'S OPERA HOUSE AND MUSEUM - LUIS
Egeripe. Devils Aucou'-Grand European Ballet company
DoDwoR1H HAIIe-This Evening"" Mrs BOWL
NJ. Arhur ske.chle!. ~.
STUDIO BUmpNG-Day and Evening'-IascS
Painting c,oo,,d
PHILHARMONIC SOCIETY-1hls AteIhOoh -'7'
PrLiir Re r.ll 10 Tue Academy Of Muse
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The Governments of Bavaria and Nurtem-
berg have rcioiucd the Zollrerein, and the
powerful bond of commercial unity is now
closely uniting all North and South Germany.
1t was the Zollr0cin which more than any
other cause prepared the degree of political
unity which was established i'll 1906; and there
can be no doubt that it will now be instru-
mental in concentrating the work of national
union. The military alliance concluded III
August last between the South German States
and Prussia has also been ratified 10y the Diets
of Bavaria and Wurtemberg. The ratification
of this alliance was opposed by part OF the
Democratic party and of the Catholic party,
but the strong current of national aspirations
has overcome all Instructions. Both in mill
tary and in Il commercial point of view, Ger
many, with the exception of the Austrian
provinces, Is now a unit.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
MIN WARD ASSEMBLYMEM

To ire Editor Of The Tribune.
SIR: In the last campaign ! had the honor
of leading the Republican forlorn hope as the candidate
OF the Union party for Congress in the district now repre-
sented by the Hon. John Morrissey.
This much of my devotion 10 the Organization
I am n citizen OF the Thirteenth Ward which Is mo
With Assembly District. There arc two Republican can
daes in the field striving TO represent IT, one MI EphS
RosRMON President Of the Carpenters branch OF '"'
workingmen's Union, gentleman OF ability ana u'
doubted integrity. The other, Mr.. James y. h".'s'
painter who claims 10 be the regular nominee LUG V
mer is a wollknown, professed and subscribed i'ou ~
the Excise Law which he is nightly deiehuins ." -"
stump The latter frcquents all the lager peer ~
the district vehementy denouncng the suhua! "s .sa
other Of what he terms the obnoxious measures ~ .
last Legislature" and socits votes on the grounu 'n
n Republican member can excise more influence '"""
Democrat i'm securing their repeal
Task for space In the columns Of THE TRIBUNE 'ns'
may appea TO the Republican electors OF my ols'ie'
use discrimination in the selection OF their candl"o
success is not altogether objective point "O"''
snurp success at the sacrifice Of principle .,. ans,
81 every friend Of morality every henu on w IN
ami beuc0cent laws of brave Legislature. w" "S in
Wc Sixth Assembly District, stand 10y bphN h,5,ii
Ills hitter contest Tor the right Very for
~. -, ,..,.,ff.cf Oct. 81. 1867.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

WILLIAM =. RICHARDSON, the Republican
candidate for Assembly in the With District,
is an excellent citizen, never till now candi-
date for office. He can be elected, If the right
work is done. Last year, the District voted:
Tdwd Mitchell RcpJ 1872 Frank Rawson Dem) 1856
Scattering ......... III James Riley DEM 80. 4S'
There are splits on either side, but Mr.
Richardson deserves every Republican vote,
and will receive most of them Give him your
best work, Fifteenth Warders!
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

JOIN V. GRrDLEY ran for Assembly last we ar
in the XIth District with the following result ::
tot., Y Cridlev...21s3 " Hill Fowler. $50
Thomas Is. Van Buren,. $40 John kelly.......... 69I
Blanks. p ncattcfiS .-..-...- Io<
The District is Republican, and Mr.. Gridley
has proved a capable and faithful representa-
tive. He ought to have 5000 votes next Tues
day, and be elected 10y not less than 500 ma
iorty. TO secure such result. his friends
must work with will. Give him your very
host efforts
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The World terms Thaddeus Stevens's late
manifesto (Which it takes care not to print
feeble" and "a rgmarole." 1t says:
"The Constitution not rest upon the equality Of
men, but the equality OF States"
No; the Constitution rests on the equal
rights of citizens and the equality lin certain
respects) of States. If not how comes New
York to have thrtyone Representatives in
Congress and Delaware but oneY
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
STe&u'llotk Qyrilu gribm1r&
FRIDAY. NOVEMBER I, 1867.

rV' Letter from orr Merican Correspondent;
Charles Dickens; Cooperation in England; Young
Mems Christian association; List Of Lecturers;
Fine Arts and Rei,giOHs on the second page; Re-
Iigious; H0w Ner- York Is Fed; origin of Re-
publican Party; Hoe Copperheads SidMder Brare
Soldiers, and tic Money and other Markets, on
the third paqe; Science on the Si1th page; and on
the Serenih page Slip NerS, the Girl and Crimi,
nal Courts, tie NeC-JerSey Reform School, and
VpIp0r0iuS.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

To pay off the bonds in greenbacks would
require an enormous new issue of paper money.
With the currency thus deprecated and all
the necessaries of life immensely raised in
price, who would be the real sufferers, the rich
or the pOor7 The success of the Democratic
schemes would inevitably be followed by these
disastrous consequences. Workingmen, whom
will you support
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The official vote of Virginia is as follows:
Whites, 1924 Colored 93,65G. For Conven-
ton, 1885 Whites; 99,JO7 COlOred. Against
Convention, 81 ,2l9 Whites G3S COlored. Gen.
Schofeld, in view of the complaints of fraud,
Is about to order new census of the voting
lonnlatOn Of Richmond.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

If ORLANDO l.. STEWART and EDWARD +.
CowLEs are elected Justices of the Superior
Court, AUGUsrUs l.. Brown and HOOPER &.
VAN yoRsr Judges of the Common Pleas, and
j. SOILS RIrTERBAND Judge Of the Marine Court,
New-York will for once be astoniShed, and
there will be ten chances TO one in favor oil
Justice where there is now only one in ten.
We call upon all good citizens to vote for these
mon
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

e. We solicit from our friends Election Re-
turns By TELEGRAPH merit Tuesday ereninG but
seih the forest possible details. Tile wireS are 50
operloaded on such nights that dispatches are
transmitted SioWiy and tcih difficulty Gire as
the rote, so far as yOu hare al, on Secretary Of
State, and sag ,cho are probably or certainly
elected Senators and Assembymen. We prefer
to .rait for other returns, so as not 10 choke the
srirec
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The Republicans carried the lid Assembly
District of Kings last year by over $50 ma
jOrity. ELNATHAN L. SANDERsOY can be elected
this year if the UniOnists will but half try.
We cannot afford to lose the District. Work
with will. Register to-day, and vote on
Tuesdov
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The report that the marching Of the Italian
troops into the Papal territory had been or
dered without the consent of France, and that
consequently, the relations between the two
powers had ceased to be amicable, is not en-
titled, we believe, TO much credit, though it
romes from semio6cial papers Of France. 1t
4, however, significant that, in the opinion OF
the French semi-ofcial press, the Italian Gov
eminent is bound to await the orders Of
France aud s made responsible for every
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Republicans of the With Senate District in
ouire how your neghbors are gong before you
waste n vote on John Keyser. He can't pos
sibly get half votes enough to elect him-he
may get just enough to defeat Aid WHITE.
Don't let the district be Wiley cast away
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Some of the solid men of Boston have written
a ratification letter to Mr.. John Quincy Adams,
the Democratic candidate for Governor of
Massachusetts, in which they declare that +" old
"names have grown obsolete" That is rather
severe, considering that Mr.. Adams's old
"namen is all he has to depend upon for an
olpcfion
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01
INSTRUCTIVE DATA.

In the IXth Assembly District, the self
styled Conservative Republicans" ran can
didate last year. with the following result:
Henry Rogers Democrat
Norman StiattOn Republican,.
Charles T. Polhamus Conservative .........-.. iJJ
Blanks Q Combined Republican vote. ..J,01S
Republican majority, 15i. Democratic plurality oi'
THAT is just what comes of running So
called Conservative" candidates-the election
of Democrats in Republican districts And
that is Just what John keyser is running for
in the With Senate and Mr.. Brown in the lAth
Assembly District. Right well do their hackers
know that they are working to defeat Repub-
lican candidates and elect COpperheads IN Re
publican districts. That S inst it.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

dispatch from Washington to The Erening
Post confirms the statement made by us Tour
or five days ago, on the authority of a CORE
spondent in Georgia, that the Southern planters,
encouraged by the Democratic gains IN Penn
sylyana and Ohio, arc making preparations to
demand payment for their cmancipated slaves.
Nnn -.n m uLnL Nnnu..n.ll nIu.inles tend.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The World complains that the police ara
making inquiries in the neighborhood of tho
tenement-houses whether some of the men sus
pected of fraudulent registration really live
where they say they do, and that many sound
Democrat is thus put in fear of arrest. Well.
here is confession! People who run away at
the sight of a policeman generally have good
reason for doing so.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

GEORGE +. CODDNGToN, honest and capa-
bic, is the Union nominee for Assembly in the
IXth (Henry Rogers District. There are two
Democrats and one Republican running against
him. We hope the latter will withdraw, but
at all events let every true reformer work and
vote for COddingtOn.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Veterans of the Irish Brigade, you know
Major Haggerty's record. Your votes and your
influence could elect this poor but gallant SOL
der to one of the many fat" Offices in this
city. Shall he have it, or will you give it to
one of his wealthy competitors Vote for
JAMES HAGGERTY for County Clerk.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

There are now three strong Democratic can
didates running for the Senate in the With
District (XIIth, XIXth, and XXIId Wards).
The vote for Governor last Fall stood 6,335
Republican, and 1915 Democratic. WILSON
BERGMAN can be elected on Tuesday if the
Republicans of the District strain every nerve.
Let every man pull off his coat, and work with
n vim
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Hard work and a careful watch on the regis
try may defeat the reelection of James Reed
in the With Assembly District. NICHOLAS f.
EBERnARDT lis the Union nominee. Let tho
District be thoroughly canyassed, and every
Republican voter brought out
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

After subduing terrible rebellion, at terrible
cost to ourselves of money and lives, we are 10
insult the soldiers who won our victory for IA.
and then pay the defeated Rebels for tho
damage they brought upon their own heads in
trying to damage us
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Maior-Gen. f. L. Molineaux has declined the
Republican nomination for Assembly in the
Iyth Brooklyn District, and HAMILTON Is.
BRADSHAW has taken his place on the ticket.
The latter is well spoken of, and we hope that
a strong effort will be made for his election.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Capt. WILLIAM j. STEWART is running for
the Assembly on the Republican ticket in tho
XVIII District (XXth Ward). His political is
rs clean as his war record. He should have the
vote of every Unionist in the District. Soldiers.
remember him on Tuesday
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

JAMES MCCARTHY, the Republican nominee
in the XIIth Assembly District, served his
country bravely on the battlefield, and is well
worthy of reward. Let the roll he called, aud
every Union vote in the District be given him.
He has clean record.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

resume and thereafter maintain Specie Pay
mcnt. Then, if the country wants $iO0,00000O,
or sSOO,OOOOOO, or S1,2OO,OOOOOO of grcenbacks,
it. will float that amount all that are not
needed in business will be sent in for re-
dnunutioD.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The Democratic party organs declare that
the cause for which Jefferson Davis fought Is
"the cause of God, liberty, and humanity
Prisoners of Andersonville and Salisbury, who
are your candidates.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The Copperhead papers say that several
thousand Democrats in this city will not vote
because they are afraid of being arrested if
they go before the Registry Board. There is
probably some excellent reason for their re-
luctance to trust themselves near the police.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Republicans of Kings. you can and must
carry your county ticket. Sean the lists, and
see that every Union voter is registered and
brought TO the polls. Let yourselves ont for
once and sweep the county like whirlwind
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Col. JOEL w. MASON is the Union Assembly
nominee in the XVIlth District. There are
half dozen Democrats running against him, and
a good strong pull may elect him. Turn out,
register and vote for him.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

Lieut.. ALEXANDER II. MuLLIGAN should OBJ
tain the vote of every returned veteran in the
XIVth Assembly District. Comrades, give him
a hearty lift, for he is worthy of it,
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-01

The Commercial Adrertiser has leader en-
titled, "Gen. Grant Terror to CoruptonistS.'
We know one very corrupt old man who
does MT seem to fear him in the least.