New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-09
4 Day NTH BEN WADE.
WHAT He THINKS OF MEN AND MEAsUEE>-III'
VIEWS OF NEGRO Observation-Disclosures
-GRANT-CHAsE, ETC.

Travelling in this section of the State, thought
1t would not be ams pay visit to the home Of Senator
Wade, and ascertain through short interview how the
old Radical warore felt over the result OF the recen
elections and what his views OF men ana measures
this interesting period in the political history Of the
country. had been toll along the Reserve. by those
who pretended 10 know him. that would find him droop
ing and deepouden over the loss Of the race but this
soon discovered 10 be great mistake. There he was
"a large as life and twice as natural-head and tan
erect rs fun Of snortng defiance though he had won
instead of lost. His health had very much improved
the close the campaign ana he looked as well as
at any time drng tho past ten years Voice and strength
but a month, leisure had recovered both.
saluted the old gentleman, Ia the language Of Arte
"If,s fine fate of war" said he. "We're id badly
whipped but it can't be helped We must get ready for
''io'''' 'OD"u T III CAUSE or TUE DEFEAT.
"Thc nicgcr whipped us" said Mr.. Wade. 1--WE went
the state by good majority if it hadn't been for the sui
ge issue sim am not sofIy we made the i,i1e o,
Il TO do over again ia be Tor putting ~ again. anu
III he for keeping mp until we do VIM f0r by the etcI
nal Goo, they cam 3,l US ~. ,ue Ilo Oh I,
like that had no idea that there were so many kepuD
leans Ohio who were willing to see negro suffrage III
the South but woudn let the few nSgers of ONO vote
ms a measure Of reconstruction just rs much as was
didn't dream that they'd be mean enough to vote asns
In answer to question to whether he thought the
creenback issue had anything do with the defeat, Mr.
Wade said he didn't think 1t had II was nothing Dut me
niger The greenback issue was nos fairly before the
cratic speakers maze very niue on an ISSUE on ~ %
backs. The Niger the only strong point they had
and they beat that, fair ana square; nut they II
have 10 keep beating US, for wen give them no peace
till we beat them.
"Now," said Mr.. Wade, because we've been whipped
the first trial, suppose some OF the Weakl,ne ecu
won't back id inch I'm for II now as strong as was
before the election ana stronger, too because there Is
udice But yOuu men trying to hush the thlng up
and smother 1t and 10 dodge u IN every way ihgy can
..ff IA
Of such Radicals Wen have now I'm Tor u because
think is right and know US reht anu, .i.ng -
70 t bis nj e world that wasn't unpopular az first
And not one Of them ever carried by dropping ~
and running like scared hounds from H. AFTER u Wds
beotap once No Sir. we are committed 20 the doctrine
OF universal suffrage, and man Is Republican VINO
rt mn, word be the damncdest crawfshng YOU
ever saw from this time forward. Well, let tcm CO. VIC
can win without Them and will VIM too just as sure
49, the Hniiglt, H. inst and heaven above us II will be-
come harder every year for the COppcrlcads 10 Ddt Us
on that issue and they won't beat us very oten either
bavOuets every time"
'' Mr. rwING's LETTER.
Iaskcd Nr Wade II hc had read Tom Lwings letter on
the lesson OF the late elections. He said De had read only
short extract from d. but could hardly mako ON WHAT
the old fellow was DRIVING a. ga Ion i'a ana III ANN
think what he says viii nave much ehect o. lHt i.ipl
party lie went of with the johnson DIetIyn; Hl
well" SAID l. the sum and substance Of the letter Is
,bat to Padicais gt 10 back down from Recon-
struc0n policy, and abandon negro suffrage in the sOuth
because it has been voted down M OHIO
"Ncvcr Inn Gods world" said Mr. Wade. $50 FAR as
my vote goes we VIII never abandon anything We've
done there but will 90 further ana make u worse ioI e
pv obsnr o tax Of making states without the negro vote
In the South. You can't doit. You might as wen iet
them sccede ~ once and SCI mp Tor then-e =, az ~
the white Rebels get control OF everything down there
as they would do under Johnsons policy. We con.u.
20 back on the negroes II we would ana WOMEN u !
could They talk about of races. 10 VIII never
Ter them ADM n ont between them ana let one drive the
az y ID
Senator am bound that there is fepuhucah gov
cnmcnt 10 these States That's al I've got To d2 Win ~
II they can't agree among themselves 20 much the worse
for the side that gets whppcd-thats all But Wen give
them republican form Of government pc, SUITE OF inc
IurLACHMEST.
on the subject Of impeachment Mr. wade said be
wished 10 be distinctly understood expressing no opi
ion 30 far Mr. Johnsons guilt or Innocence wac con
cerned lie would. however answer my question a. 10
whether the late elections would have any effect upon
that matter. He thought they would. " lou Soc, san
he "thcsc weak kueed brother. are laHinE VIC nl,A
ton in Ohio got 10 do with the matter IL Andy johnson
Is guilty put HIM ont not acluit NM tnats me way
To do IT, They ought 10 have pressed the yosiighi@s
sc DOM last winter II there hadn't been so many
I'M the Sen ate and House who wanted 10 keep on good
terms with the White House. There were too many men
Ohio and other states who wanted thcr brothers ana
friends al pointed 10 Office and knew that Andy was hld
ding high for votes. II was one OF the most Shame
f peca ces I'm the history OF this any other country
10 see men selling themselves and their constituents Tor
Office last winter 1ou pitched INTO Few OF thcul, III
me Commercial but you only told aihundredth patt 81
the truth wish the papers would take up every devil
of em and 20 That thing will ruin the country
yet the people amt careful some oi theIl deneu nav
ing made any effort to get these appointments but know
how 1t was. know that Andy was mighty particular 20
make his appointments % the best adFantagc, 4uu ne
didn't give an Office where 10 wouldn't count II u hadn't
been for that Internal thing OF once INC lmp5ac
ment would have been settled last winter as u ought 10
have been / don't know whether johnson would have
TURNED out not but the thing would nave been
detcrmiuef one way or the other
asked lnm n he thought the Republican party would
have farce better In the late elections II johnson lad
been impc lched and turned ont OF Office Certainly
would said hc. O. II had made out case against MN
and turned him ont land we shouldn't have turned him
much stronger There's nothing the people like u party
40 wen "a joldness and nothing hurts party 80 much
as timidity. II the people think you are AFRAID tOdo
thing that You ougt do they'll beat you certain They
like pluck whitellyered party VIII soon 90 20 pieces.
II was took hold OF the Slavery question in
GOOD eario that on II, and We never did win
until We did take hold of II IN that way"
Referring TO this measure. Mr. Wade said he had not
made up mind exactly whether ne ought 10 vote Tor u
or not He believed that under the last clause OF the
abolition o. slavery by appropriate legislation there was
ample aut orty for the passage OF the bl for no man
was really free IN this country unless he had the right 10
vote But he was % believer IN State rights IN proper
was I'm vio ltion OF the rights each regulate
suffrage rome Of his party he said were in favor OF
what they called consolidation but he never was. lie
believed It was necessary TO the proper administration Of
the affairs Of the tlat the states should nave
certain rights, and he ala not believe that state rights
should exist only for the purpose OF representation Ia the
Senate anC be a nullty for all other purposes.
GEN. GRANT.
Referring to Presidential matters Mr. Wade said It had
looked to hm for year past as II the republican party
would take Grant up for President and run him with
hurrah He sorry 10 see that disposition and be-
lleved no good would come Of n. THE trouble with
Grant is" said he you don't know where he stands. 10
seems very singular that man could nave lived through
This terrible war without identifying himself with any
parv and hat pretending 10 be Republicans should
try 10 rush hin into the White House without asking MN
single question as to where he stands on the great issues
now before tbe country Still have felt II In my bones
that thew would do that very thing"
asked MIR Wade If he had ever conyersed with Gen.
cram have wv tied to do it, said ho but never could
hiring him out When the popular current appearing
IN RIM i'm hi, favor thought would Ike to know how
la stnod an rho great questions before uswhcther he
was for Johnson Congress- or what the devil he was
- mi 1 nDyer cnnd anythlng out Of him AS nnLck