The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-09-18
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
Three Sessions Daij,-The Finance ana Canal
Reports still Under Discussion.

DAILY
Mr. Bait called up the resolution offered by MIN yes
erday. THAT this Convention will meet at moe A. M.
take recess from two T. d. 10 four p. NJ, and also
from SIX p. H. TO seven r. 81, except on Mondays the
morning session commence O'Clock A. d.. and
that ON Saturdays adjournment shall 90 had at two
O'Clock p NJ
III. ALvoRD moved TO amend by striking out "two'
and inserting half pas Que and by striking out sx'
and inserting in lieu thereof the words 'seyen and
half" IL was adopted.
NJ. SAITH moved TO amend by striking out sep. M"
where Il last occurs and inserting "l2 NJ"
Mr.. scHooSMAxsa moved 70 lay IL on tho table which
was lost by SO TO 81.
The resolution as anne nded was then adopted
Mr. BARro moved that the Convep lion viii hereafter
assemble every day, except Sundays al six O'Clock A.
NJ, and remain ia session until IL O'Clock r. NJ taxing
6P.M
Mr. ALvoRD moved to lay ths motion on the table
Carried
The CHAIR presented two communications from the
Comptroller or New York city in to q cat tor
information II was ordered to be printed.
FINANCES
Tho Convention then went into Committee Of the Whole
the reports OF committees finances and canals.
discussion on the proposition TO place Ian
guage In the const uon to definitely DISPOSE Of the
surplus Of the canals after paying the canal
debt, for the improvement OF the canals.
Mr. CHURCH took tho ground That the moneys ad-
vapced 10 the canals should be first paid back into the
treasury. When that done, then leave II to Inc
Legislature what should be done with such funds.
Dir. VERpLANcK wanted to words in the constitu-
ton that would give the surplus revenues to the canals
for their Improvement
Dir. FOIGER said his canal policy was that the surplus
revenues should first pay all canal Indebtedness; after
that the money should be used for the benefit OF the
canals
Mr. TrDEN would not restrict the Legislature IN its
action with reference 10 the disposition OF the surplas
revenues after tho debts should be paid. He would
leave the disposition of the moneys accumulated To
tue discretion of the Legislature.
Mr. ALvoRD wanted a recognition Of the canals The
plan OF the Finance Committee would tie up the sur
plus revenues so that no money could be used for the
Improvement OF the canals until the cana, debt aud
the advances made TO the canals by taxation paid.
lie was willing 10 set apart definite sum for the pay
ment OF The canal debt but he would
up the eighteen millions which had been advanced by
taxation that could not be used for The benefit OF
the canals
Mr. CHURCH said the report Of the Finance Comm ttee
in accordance with the financial pol cy OF the
sLtuton OF 1916 persistent effort was made To mutt
late the principles OF that report All be asked that
it should be fairly considered; but II the principles laid
down tho article reported by the Finance Committee
we're overtlrown by this convention bo thanked God
there another tribunal before which no would APP
pear and indicate them.
After further Discus 1t was agreed without dissent
that after the OF the canal debt and the amount
advanced since lS48 tho surplus be used
for the Improvements Of the canal, for such other
purpose the Legislature may from time to time direct
but such y shall not be anticipated or pledged
Mr.. ALvoRD moved strike out the section which
provides that except for the payment OF debts specified
no tax shall hereafter be upon the people OF he
State for works If internal Improvement their debts,
| unless authoriz ID By vuie of the people.
Mr. CHURCH said this sec,ou provided remedy for
Legislature could Impose for any given purpose
and they had been in the habit OF doug for the past
ten ,weve years. until the of about nfteen mil
\ lions had been thus raised for various purposes.
Mr. RArHsuN opposed the motion strike out the
ton there would soon be money enough to mako all the
improvements desired II we were not IN too much OF
hurry II the necessity should arise for the expenditure
OF more monev than there 4; tao treasury then
consult the people ab.us L was their business and
would authorizcit or not He would preserve bis oman.
ciai safeguard
OPINION among the friends Of canals in various loca
ties 1t admitted there immediate necessity
for taking out the wall bench in the Erie Canal, in
completing the Chenango Canal extension and in finish
ing the Improvement OF the Champlain Canal. Now he
would not tia up the Legislature that they could not
levy for these works He had tears that the
Legislature would impose heavy burdens for these
objects. safe 10 oavs these questions with tho
Legislature
| recess was taken I'll four O'Clock p.
Afternoon Session.
The Convention reassembcd at four O'Clock
METROPOLITAN POLICE AND FIRE COMMISSIONERS CALLED
| UPON FOR INFORMATION.
Mr.. GERRY offered the following
Resolved That the Board OF Commit OF the Metro
poitan Police be requested to furnish thu. Conven
' %sat. .So~ns-Frss The aggregate number
s1 1884, e both 'fss irem second ss The 1877
amount paid each salaries to the Commit
ss%
or from ss force during Se
above mentioned with the causes grounds OF dismissal
eash scar before The Board Of
! complaints during the period above mentioned.
Laid on the table. Also the following
Re olvsi That the Commissioner. Of the Board Of IL
r % s s y a~a % e 0Ta w
tabular statement the number OF license.
the present time and the sros. amount paid for such
against licenses the PERIOD By pre-
wSnsr Sy s X. or or .rs the ,s
and refused during same period fourth the number OF
| men Of the grounds Of such revocation.
| Laid on the table, Also the following
Resolved the Board of Commissioner OF the Metro
% furnish thi. Convention early, praocsbe VITA
ns X. year. IDS @ Ss % n co:
lively, and the amount OF salsre. paid IN each Of such
Cd Fire department, and number engines added
Win ~ :ss e IL % % ss'
number OF horses in each Of such with
c s
e Of e nss 81 q Ss .ns
far - the record. Of the departments show the
Lad on the table.
yrxAscx AND rHx cAsArSI
The consideration Of the nnancs and canal reports
Mr. Hall moved 70 amend thu section proposed to be
stricken out that tax shall hereafter be imposed
proyemsu bv inserting the words belonging 70 Ihs
/ state unless authorized by vote Of the people"
Mr. T. BROOKS spoke again IN defence OF the lateral
canals
Mr. BEcxyoRp took ground IN favor Of giving State aid
for the construction OF railroads The State he'd
rated the policy and too late 10 stop now Jensr
son county had been taxed to baid railroad in scno
| harie county Now let schoharie county be taxed 10
build railroad In Jefferson coussy turn about was
| fair play
am UNITS OF money had been drawn from the pockets
thu people for local purposes which would hs'
bean permitted had the consent OF the voters been asked
IL Was important that such provision should be coz
tanned In the constitution II was stricken out he
doubted whether people would endorse the instru.
ment to DO submitted TO them.
| Mr. ACRpHy had failed to hear any reasons why this
section should be retained. The people OF this State
yere quito competent to determine AT any limo whether
they would would not give aid TO any corporation.
The Legislature, speaking for the people, would tell
| whether such taxation necessary. We could not
arrogas to all the wisdom for twenty years
| pendture q money.
Alter further discussion Nr. CoSexs moved to rspor,
| progress.
not quorum present, and recess taken till half