The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1867-09-14
THE PACIFIC
Commercial Advertiser.
SATURDAY. SEPTEMBER IL.
LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDINGS.

o o'clock, aud opened with prayer
Minute read and approved.
Hon. W. i. Wood gave notice that be- Intended
To present a LiIi to amend the laW relating To boun-
diaries.
Hon. l.. AhoIa moved the order Of the day. Car
ricd.
The Chairman stated that the unfinished business
before the House was the motion 10 lay the bill
+" 10 provide for anticipated drlyicncirs la the rev
anur ON tie table.
His IN 4. de NArgny-sinoe the adjournment Yesterday Of
tue LesiHauNr A-,smb1' We have seriously oon-'def'd the
si-ing the discussion - the bal and IL ras-age at this -~S5on.
Ny colleague, uIc Minister q Finance, presented yesterday nr
Your consideration several Arguments ani reasons which have
made n deep impression GA the minds q ulost 4 the meinisrs
do sTt m'etd 10 state again What he :" ably stated hth.ri,
but 10 submit & ySa s'nis eonsidcrai''1s o ala entirely older
The legislative Assembly has proved, by a nearly unAni-
nous vote, that they were deSlt.us d occurring the treaty
IheN have proved by their vote q the additional apprOpnAtluls
that they scsc Anxious 10 facilitate the tack Il the Executive
We ask then NV u remove, BY the Iasase Of this bill, the
Last difficulty IA the ~Ay, aud to ryiaie, by anticipation, any
aud all ARGUMENT. That Tie opfoisntT q TIE treaty in ,he uGi-
IL Is no dsubt feared by SINE, expected ~ Others, Comment
duty GA sugar, additional re-1arces. II you I1s- this bah, you
viii euabsr .. TO give 10 the unitpl STATE. an additional prof
&c our good faith, ir although therc l. nothing ia the treaty
I Ton = he sTlnr u the treafS. II not u H.. bite m Saaf.,.,
this hall yod viii further satisfy Al friend. abroad and the
United staies Consrss, that You do MT Contemplate 10 srk
additional resources ia a mode Of TAXATION not omy irJadici1us,
but imiolitic, and generally condemned By experience.
! wOuld add, secondly. that At l. believed aud will b. argued
by sumo, uhat you VII tax heavily such article. being the
growth and produce Of the United states as are not inoiudod
=" N 1870 '"s "N. '"NHS ~" "''@"tS ~ ~ lsss
,hat ym, tnIrr,t ~ rrs.rt To- E,srrr,I ts,,t.B 7. q an ~ :. a.
hcit created for the general god. Let y~r intentions be- ever
- good, IL i evident u me that your refusal 10 discuss and
lass the Lag Will be attributed by the opponent. oithe bal to a
desire t, wait 10 secure the treaty aud u resort TO one OF the
two modes cd TAXATION 1 have mentioned.
one word more and l close. Many her. are Of opinion that
il would b. eNI~dieni 20 lay a heavier tar On articles called
Idnrery, &c. However, plausible it may appear, l strongly dis
saade yon from . doing These articles aml many others Of the
same nature constitute the principal part -four commerce with
Eurore, and it would lie unfair aud aIjust, in my opinion, toim-
peril a young and thriving trade by heavy taxation, aDi TO hay an
additional burden upon imports ian England, Germany,
franee, &C, because Ne conclude : treaty calculated to give
10 Aneneah Ssnlhefce AMI american capital considerable
advantages These views will, I am sure, meet with your
wsE To- relieve anxiety, a a. to s ii @H All inf, =" or M h'st dtat com" u
ments by a pIomrt and hberssr etion- Let therefor, the same
an H. Let the sane men vote on these questions = closely
eonneo,e,, AMI then You viii retum to YOUR constituents with
success "f this national undertaking
Hon. L. IL. Boyd moved. that he Assembly go
into Il Committee of the Whole on this bill.
Ills Tx. 5. II. Phillips said that the motion was
out of order, rs could be seen by looking at the
rule, of the Assembly.
Mr.. Boyd Withdrew the motion. 4. few days since
u demand was made on the Ministers for this bill.
I opposed it and 50 did others. The bill was
brought. and If left over To the next session l fear
ed that II would create disturbance in the commit
nifty. Now that the bill is before the House. L.; us
pass it. If the members Of the next Legislature
wish 10 amend our work. they can do 50. This
question of taxation should he met calmly. we
should do nothing on it hastily. 1t is a very i'm
porIant question. and months of consideration
would not be too much. and as the law cannot
possibly 20 into effect before August. lS6S. | shall
vote, To pass it. | 10 not like some of the items in
the bill. Ii We defer its consideration, and parties
find that we intend to tax the articles named. they
will pour the goods into this market in such guam
titles "a In stock the market. and We shall lose n
portion Of our expected revenue by this course. /
shall consequently vote against the motion TO table
the bill.
Hon. J. W. Kcawehunahala-I thank the Minis
tiers for bringing this bill into the House in accord
ancc with our wishes. l do not dislike the bill, but
| shall oppose any motion To discuss il at
tn time. We shall ill our books with laws that
may prove To be useless. aud at a great expense.
The Minister of Finance thought Yesterday that the
ne N Legislature will follow Our example. and re
fuse to entertain this bill. | 10 not think the
argument il sound. it will not bear discussion.
| think this question OF taxation is q very import
ant one. and should go before the country. | do
not think that the wisdom of this kingdom is all as
seInbied here the next Legislature will be COM
posed of gentlemen of as much Intelligence as any
present. and they will have the advantage of hav-
ing heard the opinion of their constituents. Our
passage OF the Treaty bill caused the rich, whites
and strangers. 70 smile but the natives are Vet in
doubt. l do not wish to see them farther mystifed
by the haSty passage OF the bill. Some suggest
that the planters and farmers should meet the def
cheney caused by this treaty. II this Isl good idea,
why was not this bill framed To that end. While
arguing on the treaty bill. we were-told that We
should all he in u better position TO pay taxes. Ii
we pass this bill now. We do So before We know
anything about the advantages we are To derive.
Heavy taxation may operate TO discourage people
from accommodating property. 1 Like this bill indi-
vidually. and il | were the only man in my district,
| would vote for il but | wish 10 get the sense of
my constituents before | vote. Tins act Is to pro-
vide for a good time coming bu. we may be dis
appointed in that good time. The United States
may not ratify this treaty. What articles have we
that are faxed specially
His Ex. e. de Varigny-lIorScs, dogs. carriages.
donkeys. &c.
Hon. J. w. Kcawchunahala-I still think we
had better let this bill stand oyer To the next SEES
slim. NJ. may vet have faro matches taNpd in cpn-
tradisiinction To kuia lands. We shall have houses
taxed. and everything else we own. and this will
all result from our hasty action on this bill. Our
hats. vests. coats and watches will all be taxed. rs
was once proposed. If We pass this bill. it cannot
be enforced until after the next session of the Leg
islaturc. How can we be benefited 10y its passage
at this time:
The President said that under section three, the
bill would Immediately become a law after the two
governments ratified the treaty, whenever that was.
Hon. j.. W. Kcawchunahala-I think we can
safely let this bill stand over. The Hon. Mr.. Bishop
said Yesterday that toe next Legislature would
soon convene. | think the Ministers will thus have
more time To- look into its merits. | do not believe
in passing this bill now. aud then have the Legis-
lature tinker it. Let it be done once. and well
done.
Hon. G. II. Bishop-Im the few words which |
said yesterday | opposed tn" passage of this bill
at this session. ! de- not dislike The bill or any of
its provisions. ! am safe in saying that the Minis
tiers have had this bill under consideration for
some time. aud up to yesterday did not seem II
care to hav" th, bill pass now but upon reflection
they have changed their minds. I am also a little
changed in my opinion. Some oi the arguments
urged to pass IL now are good. IL i "a simple bill.
aud need not occupy much time. | am willing tn
see some oi the provisions pass. but it the House
voted against laying it upon the table. | should
move a slight amendment to section two. | shall
vote against tthling the bill.
Hon. &. q. lIopkius-As the supporter of the
motion IT, table this bill. | would say that | could
wish the motion could be put e. vote. A man
convinced against his will, &c. Those who have
made mp their minds TO table IL have not been con
WINGED io the contrary. Ii the system of tcirgraphy
was in vogue spoken of yesterday. ! should flash
along the wires that the Ministers had again changed