The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-07-08

Established Church we're not ia auy way affected This
remember 70 have been BEFORE and therefore It seems
to me that although would wish would attempt
to settle this important question during tho present
SESSION wnen We have another question OF SURPRISING
Importance 70 settle YET that the Tendency Of cream
stances is such that Parliament would do Ill II did NOT
s,ssrssle. q ne saesss early pafi o. next
been described worse than that or ireland any
time; but manufactures have extended and commerce
u 10 SGG
Somers in not contradicng the people Of Scotland IN
regard 70 that Religion. laesr, hear Unhappiy az
and abe is still distracted The income Of the Es,ab
lished Church IN Irslak appears TO be f6So,42s In
was passed, there was = srran cement made by which
leases for years were 10 be renewed per-
"a that way xiS year hes been en-, snsy oss q the
isrcnes between the revenue zane and What Il would
were IN force In Ireland. There arc other sums
connected with the or the Church which some
- BE- furnished b. the congregations themselves !
alude % the sums necessary for furnishing the 70
tness things are proper matter Of INQUIRY while It V
desirable at ali events that they should b Inquired
into strikes me that oven careful inquiry were
made and every penny which could DO found % % part
Of the revenues Or the Established Church 10 Ireland
were applied for the benent Of the Essabshed Church
you would not obtain satsactlon or conndence among
the Irish people. On this point might make quota
tons only from men Of the highest authority among
liberal statesmen Of this country also from some
who have taken very distinguished pars conserva
uveS Will not refer to the opinions Of Brougham,
Plunkets Macauay Lord Grey and others. but ! viii
state to you what was written BY Lord astereagh after
the Union Although no was able to do very little TO
carry out his wishes Is clear that Lord castlereagh
had the improvement Of Ireland at heart and these are
words used BY him.
II the internal struggle continues Great Britain win
ss d as s
ton; and II hereafter that country prove
made TO govern 1t through tho public mind.
On this subject, my lords wish 10 call your atten-
ago BY Sir Il Pes who was then Secretary Ireland
cir g. Ponsonby declared tho speech TO which am
about to refer 10 be most one On the 9th
OF May 1877 state nents put forward by Graf
tan in supporting motion which he made on that oc-
cason One that il would DO right 10 admit the Roman
Catholics to power and office; the other that they
admitted satisfaction would at prevail and
continue forever Ireland sir r. Peel having in his
early days that sagacity which he afterwards dispayed
passed over first OF those statements aud applied
himself to proving that unless Parliament did some
thing with the Churchill il nothing more than adj
mt Roman Catholics to ofbcc-tbere would come TO
pass exactly what wo have SINCE seen TO happen. He
SAID
hierarcSlas the one ssSasasy sectns
the x. ss
Of The great
adhersns. from the very nature doctrine:
u. Of r. an
s1aowsd nS doubt -. saSsxss with ,ss
M but q
Poraties took tina: IN Ireland there vas IN
the people from one religious creed 70 another no
Of their ancient church Attempts we're
BY other means and they failed and have isl
hostility hos ns;a'A q '0'n anu
No one will deny that Sir r. Peel drew true picture
beg lordshps TO observe how what Is sad in the
month Of May, 1887, completely confirms and almost
the year Is7 Hear near this BE- and Il there
be At prcsenand from Ill can hear such Is tho case
among The farming and peasant classes wiz not say
they were not willing TO give them active assistance but
| . sympathy with men who, II they had proposed
greater support would, according 10 their view, have
been deserving Of their regard a. men who wisnsd 70
prseds Are we 10 wonder that men deeply attached 10
their church should be disconnected when they that
s Of Inc a ns en-
their own religion and thor bishops are entirely
| deprived OF any Of these advantagess am told by
some persons that this 10 ssBtlDssaiG ,crong own
politics should speak Of sentimental wrong. What
moss~ e's rougasnt Esop. and tssOacaoa The .voyidS
What was the wrong inflicted upon the Scotch whom
charcnssi what but ssniiments1 grievance indeed
them to discard the liturgy and bishops OF the English
Church AND 70 resort 70 ss,0n snd form o. church
what was truef Hear hearD Look to ne separation Of
tAs Tinted States from England Does any besevs
WILTON people whicA ind,sced ne uAoIe Of he Unisd
States TO sever from Great Britain and dalIe
sisted that her taxes should extend to America,
that her laws OF trade should govern America that
orders passing acros the Atlantic shd be the oy
schich Americans skoud liret n sentimental crong
ahich induced the Uned States 10 against England and
to separate from her altogether irdependen, s ate
Belgium 1t not pretended that there was any
tyranny the part OF the Dutch The Dutch, believe
Belgium very we'll but kept too great part OF
| Y.
body except OF themselves to Office and this senti
mental wrong so affected the people OF belgium that
they could stand no longer, and they rose 70 arms to
| get rid Of IT. Therefore, when persons talk OF the
motives which govern men in Ireland, and provoke
ance they offer objection which cannot be sustained
/ The statistics this subject, although they are
they are worth . sroa. deal or rhetoric, and .1.
plain at once tho feeling OF the irish peasantry The
last census Of the population Ireland e 10 1901 repre-
Roman Catholics 900; members OF the Esab-
lished Church, $685. 0o Presbyterians, $4,000; and
other Protesans, 10000. therefore appears that the
Of the Church OF Ireland applied for
the ADVANTAGE OF 6s3 coo persons, and portion OF
them for the benefit Of sos 900 Roman Catholics You
may say that from l7Ss 70 the present time with the
exception OF the years which followed l793 tho whole
course OF the Parliament of Ireland and OF the Para.
ment OF Great Britain has been Of sion and
| Cancellation; and that especially since The Roman
Catholic Relief act, when lew Of the very highest
| Chief Justice Monahan aud Chief Baron Pigo,t-havs
been promoted by Of their atanments ana their
| have been longest In ONCE, 10 ungrateful
| 10 ask for more, and 70 blame . gousrous.
q conhdng and . liberal Parliament
have brought this question forward partly because Il
TO inevitable that In the course OF few
you win have u forced on The noble earl oppo-
| site IL now inducing Parliament 10 assent 70 .
great change on the entire basis OF the construction OF
the House Of Commons. The earl in referring to
the subject former OCCASION seemed to think that
legislation might usual after that change Ny
belief " that when you get new men elected BY new
bodies far more democratic than the bodies BY whom
the House of Commons has hitherto been elected An In
qury will q once be made with view b find schaf q
ossiss and UAaf faulty insfstioo, and wSA
vts,c, moreover, b suect tAew 10 tAosgh dmendmenk
lHex hear) They will be apt 10 say, the Church Of
~ Ireland ia Ensi,sn sr,oe,.ey hSys hssn
/ great support 10 the Irish arIstocracy IL
| is now necessary 10 govern In such manner
10 show af he people Of England bear NJ ~ otu to-
soords ne people Of Ireland and ot thy derir 0cf nsir
bvsfhrsa sa Ireland may kce IN ne enjoyment Of equal
ofa NJ