The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-10-13
TIRE COUNTERFEIT sEvEs-THRTIEs.

The Excitement Yesterday In Wall street
and in Private Circles-MOre Of the Bonds
Discovered-A Cine 10 their Origin-Ifamors
and specnlatIous-What the Government
VIII Do-The Effect ON American Securities
Abroad.
me sxciemsn respecting the discovery OF the alleged
bogus seven-thiry bonds continued undated through
out financial circles yesterday being not alone confined
there, however but extending among all classes OF
holders Of tins description OF government securi.
ties. Numerous individuals upon learning OF the ex-
tent Of tho ISSUE Of the supposed couuerfeit bonds
rushed franicaliy homo to see II they had
any Of them were greatly relieved upon discovering that
they had not, any others either while those who
found among their little store OF sccur
ties representing the savings Of perhaps years. took
them with fear and trembling some such banking
house Jay Cooke 4 Co., or Fisk Hatch 10 inquire
whether or not they were genuine No cases OF small
holders being In possession Of the bogus bonds
found, and Is very probable that Their introduction
the market fraud Of such that they
have had time 70 be distrbsted TO extent. being
still IN rasstu in large Quantities through the various
-- E1Trsr OF rHr FORGERY
The actual amount Of the counter,ah issue Is still
matter Of speculation. new data having been dscov
cred yesterday to aid In arriving at accurate
judgment than that gained by the light Of the first in
formation published In yesterdays paper. But few
attributable doubt the disposition
the part Of holders OF what they conceive TO DO
bona fde securities to keep them in their possession
until definite action TO be taken the matter Of
the declared counterfes announced by the govern
ment, while the parties who have been engaged in
'snoving" the bogus bonds will OF course keep quiet
the present. being TOO great risk that suspi
cion on the q viu 70 attempt forcing any more into
circulation.
Morrison Putnam, brokers, received $4,000 yes
terday from correspondent in Cincinnati, through the
hanhattan banking house in this city Being in some
doubt in regard to the genuneness the bonis they
them round TO the Sub Treasury office for examna
msnt officials upon this point Tue clerks
didly confessed their inability to decide with de-
gree OF certainty AZ 70 whether or not they were bogus
two Of them they said they thought wore good, whie
the others certainly counterets Being but III
satisfied with this questionable testimony as TO their
value Messrs. Morrison Putnam took the bonds 10
Jay. Cooke Co. office, whose exper declared them
TO be limitations They we're consequently returned 10
Cincinnati.
obtained TO the parties who have been engaged in
circulating these bonds the information received that
CERTAIN individual day two since presented $1,000
In Ave bonds to banking house in Buffalo, where they
received, being subsequently ascer,aned to be
be can furnish accurate description OF the man by
whom they brought 10 the house. aud steps have
been taken ascertain his present whereabouts Much
interest ia felt As to what may be the
Of the discovery Of this gigantic fraud The seven
thrties being merely notes. the interest
being payable in currency they Of course are not he'd
any the other side; but IL feared that
the general reputation Of the government paper may
such extensive issue OF fraudulent bonds executed
with such accuracy Of imitation to grave doubts
with regard TO their status-vz whether they
plete counterfsis duplicate impressions. Nothing
has ss yst learned In this particular latest ad
vices from Europe announcing that news had been
received this side days. consequently there
returnA Mondays dispatches are OK
pected 10 convey this Intelligence. The ANAL
THE GOVERNMENT
Is still undetermined. committee has been here for
the last couple Of days representing the interests Of the
department. but Of the nature OF their ab0rs little
been learned, and Of the result nothing They ex
amined specimens OF the alleged counterfeit and sent
tor experts 70 learn their opinions ng them.
Yesterday they concluded their investigation, and
turn.d 10 the capital Mr. Vandyke the Sub Treasurer
in this CITY, still awaiting instructions from Washington.
having written for that purpose He has likewise desired
that specimen Of bogus bond should be forwarded him,
and upon ARRIVAL further examination TO discover
Of determining the character Of all
prevent the further circulation Of such Of the
counterfeit still out will be had II was re-
ported the street yesterday that special detective
from Washington was IN New York on this business,
but no did call at the SubTreasury and moth
ing could be learned OF his movements.
SPECULATION
rife in regard 70 the question whether these
sre counterfeit bonds duplicate issues Of genuine
The holders Of course VINO have no recourse in
sist with unanimity not unreasonable shat
'hey are Impressions from government plates
oicials in Warrington 70 cover up which this
has been adopted. II this the case, however, the
friends Of these oncias say, would the issue be
haed simply 10 the description Of papers No other
description OF doubtful security has been met The
report concerning
THAT TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR NOTE,
which Il was stated had been presented to Jay Cooke
Co, manfes,ly incorrect Tue highest issue Of
government bonds Of the denomination Of s. 600 and
II scarcely probable that any would bs foolish
enough to the expense Of getting up counterfeit
note Of Q higher denomination than any original No
doubtful issue other than the u 600 OF the second
series Of thirtes has yet made It's appearance