New-York tribune., 1867-08-02
Under the rule the Convention took recess to 1880 m
EVENING SESSION

Whole and resumed the consideration OF the report on
the organization Of the Legislature Mr. ASCHER (Rep,
Wayne) in the chair
The CHAIR announced the pending question TO be on
motion Of Mr. Brooks to strike out the County Of West
chester from the I'D Senatorial District The amendment
offered by Mr. Greeley ruled out Of order not
being german TO the subject under consideration.
Mr.. BALLARD REP, Cortland moved to amend by
vded for under the present Constitution He opposed
the plan OF eight Senate Districts calculated TO
move power from the people, and as step backward t
demonstrated want Of confidence in the people. The
experience Of past years had shown that the preset ys
TEN successful, and he did not believe the proposition
for eight districts would lie sanctioned by the peopa.
Mr.. CONGER Dem, ROckand) was entirely opposed
to the appOrtOnment made by The Committee The pop
uation OF the City OF New-York probably not below
100000 OF souls that being the case the city OF New
vded eight districts TO be made and If left und
vded then there could be but four districts in the state
show that under the apportiOnment OF the Committee.
the first two Districts comprising the Counties Of New
York Kings Queens, Suffolk, Richmond, and Westches
ter would be entitled to eleven Senator's instead OF nine
Senators as proposed He denounced the plan a pari
scheme and unjust either with reference TO popula
ton or taxable property II party trick TO prevent
portion Of population from heir just right of rep
Mr.. SHERMAN Rep, oneita) said it was hard
to suit gentlemen who were hard TO be suited
uals. what kind OF Constitution would we have
TO submit to the people The argument against the re-
port that the Committee had not made sufficient
number OF Democratic districts but they had been made
up with reference to lines OF trave and Identification OF
interests NewYOrk had been fairly treated. by giving
her additional SENATOR the Islind counties did not
contain population enough for separate district and
hence Westchester had been added IT, He reviewed the
formation OF the other districts claiming that the best
interests Of all concerned had been consulted lie
thought gentlemen who opposed the report should pre-
pare better scheme. SO far the political complexion
Of the districts Is concerned 1t would give the Kepub
would have 20 Senators and the latter l3 careful
examination Of the geography OF the state would demon
strate that the plan proposed was fair one, ana ne De-
levcd the best that could be devised.
Mr.. BARKER Rep, Chattaugual said the question
hnp NNIpf flpr rvVpE fO
TEN adopt the plan Of larger districts He was favor
OF large districts and for long sempora er is ths
higher branch Of the Legislature He rtpeed the charge
that the report OF the Committee party trick and
he thought the charge could only from gentleman
who had come here for party purposes Inc committee
had signed the report freely and frankly after hearing all
the discussions that were had in making up the appor
tionment. 1t was an unpleasant task for the
COMMITTEES TO make up the districts and which he
would have gladly deferred. For one he would nave
gladly handed the subject to the Iex legislature
but the Committee were asked 10 perform the duty and
did so in obedience instructions. II the Convention
should conclude 20 defer the appointment 20 the next
Legislature he would content to allow it to be done
Mr. SCHOONMAKER, (Dem, Ulsterl criticised inc appor-
tonment assent Just tCtho City OF NewYork and 70 other
counties Takug the basis OF representation upon popu
aton excluding persons not taxed only ne produced the
following figures total population, S,7a22s; ratio per
COZ; excess I42G COZ Second senate Distinct population,
4SO deficiency $500 Fourth District populston 462265
excess 2,265. Fifth DItrct, population i5jl5si de-
fciency. 52s63 Seventh District. population 999,7l3
deficiency eo5 Eighth District PopusoGn' SeG
No by i257 769; No by 6s,O3i; No by 9ll NO 10y
l23lG2 No by 1886 No by $500 lie claimed that
these facts demonstrated that the apIortionnent as
reported should not be adopted.
Mr.. NJ l. TOWNSEND REP. KensseiaeD found himself en-
ported He had no doubt that they had attempted 70
discharge their duties faithfully but he fet 1t his duty 70
differ with their conclusions lie was IN favor Of the single
district system. at present established " was not
esty and ability in the Senate. There men In the
present senate who the peer Of any nan he large
was opposed 10 throwing back the shadow
on the dial. II never had been successful Dut
on AND aRd Pa5 e %ns e6yt ny Nas " e Al not believe the
people would indorse IT, IL would restore the pouoahS
aspirations and desires e did not belleye that all tho
wisdom was In the past we must look ahead ana Exam IN
one thing more needed 90 make the scheme com,
plete and that TO restore the power Of aPbonIgh
be faly restored. and the people would be pacea IN INC
same position they were preyi9nms m 10 l5te. -, ,,o
City OF NewYork should not be fixed below what u was
at ,nd Ihs' nai s Sd m that city standard below
What was now accorded TO IT. He hoped to be able, at
!, tne m PiVtTIb y, b .e, ,nS IN population OF that city
Mr A. J. PARKER (bem.. Albany had hoped plan
Districts that could support but there was 10 much
apparent Injustice in the one proposed that he must OPP
pose He would not charge partisan motives upon lne
Committee but IL unfortunate that the great excess
OF population should bo Ia the ist ana ia islfGts,
yvhich were largely Democratic. Albany county was
also placed the district with 81 Lawrence which he
deemed an unfair arrangement ines Do,rTr nidy -.
vote against the large district plan, aud IN favor OF 81
districts at present organized.
Mr. FULLERTON (Rep, Orange) said the present ys-
TEN had worked well, and he no good Leason Ot
change He opposed TO going backward ahd auop''
ing the old plan OF large Senate districts A.,
Mr.. ALVORD Rep., Onondagp was IN iaNor OF tlo
large district plan. 10 had worked wen In the past ms
tory OF the state and doubted would the
same result i'm the future II adopted He hoped no hast
action would be taken in the matter but that the ques
Tic Committee then rose and reported progress, and
leave was granted 10 sit again
Adjourned To 10 o'clock TO morrow morning