The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-01-23
THE CANADIAN QUESTION.
Earl Carnnrvon on Con federation and Future
Rule in the Colony.

Earl Carnnrvon Confederation and Enf1re
Rule in the Colony.
From the London Star Jan II
The canada Club entertained at elmer "Wednesday
evening the delegates from the British North American
provinces in this country. consisting OF the Hon
Messrs Macdonald. Cartier. Houand and Gait from
Canada: the Hon. DR. Turper and Nessrs Henry Richie
and Archibald, from Nova scotia. ana the Hon. Messrs.
Mitchell, 1ey Fisher. JohnsoE and Wilmot, from New
Brunswick. Mr. Watkin, NJ. p presided, and the COM
pany included besides those already mentioned Earl
OF Carparvon, Sir j. Pakinglon. Lord Bury, Mr Kin.
aors wsarncliss the Lord Mayor Sir L Mssd y -
The CHAIRsAS proposed the toast or 'Her Maiestvs
Ministers" They had inherited three questions Of great
difficulty with which they would have 10 deal The
Grst comprising relations s ne continent If America
might be divided into two paIts-the position
wren we OCCUPIED WI aeseec. 10 our own
we held in regard t. tina United States
The other two questions had reference TO Ireland and
the subject of reform. On the two latter he would
venture make any remark. but 10 the first he
might say that II the Times spoke the truth offer had
been made TO the government at Washington submit
the disputed claims between the TWO countries fair
and honorable arbitration. Hear hesr For himself
Ire regretted That similar oer made from tie other
side OF the Atlantic bad not been met he thought
would be weit should have been by the OF
tho day tIiear, hesrl AS - the British North Amer-
provinces he would simply express hopc that they
would not look upon themselves The elder OF
family who might think II time to set mp their own
account and get married but rather az partners in con-
Germ which and udiylsi,le. lie believed he
might add that nothing could he more unfortunate than
that onr fellow subjects ia those provinces should tniak
with them that we should ever willingly give NJ one
Of ground in that quarter wh'cn the flag OF
Great Bttan had ever foated. Cheers) He begged IN
conclusion 10 couple with the toast which he had the
honor ~ pronose the names or the Earl OF Carnarvop
and Sir J PaSinrton
The Earl OF CAasARvos, who on rising 20 respond
TO the toast was received With cheers. said good
many years had elapsed since he had had the pleasure
Of dining with the Canada Club. and that i was with
mnch satisfaction he found himself once more In the
position Of their guest He felt thankful TO them for
the complimpp, witch they had Just paid to his col
lea m inns IL
dca,on lie saw around him several gentlemen whom ne
had already met in private, who had come a. delegates
across the Atlantic most fnp1yanf nisfn, and to
whose friendship he hoped he nigh. lay clam. The
gentlemen whom lie alluded had visited rs ~ the rcr
resenatives OF that responsible guyernmen. with which
we were so familiar that ws were somehmes " raarer
Of forgetting that IL was the exception and not the
rule. and that out OF England there were low coun.
tries in which u had free play and bad endured
long time II was 10 cerian sense ia the
colonies that the great problem involved IN the
question being tried. and it was there that
looked for the exhibition cf those great Qualities which
alone made constitutional government possible, Hear
hearl Il was sometimes said that responsible govern
nent must fatal connection subsis.ing between
this country and her colonies In tho truth Of that as
seroa hc for one did not believe On Tie contrary the
connection. far from being DESTROYED would in his
opinion be saved and confirmed by its agency. when
about qnarer CT ceriy ago. responsible government
might say. the wreck and ruin of the colonial
system which then prevailed The great Dependencies
the Crown The East had not at that time started
In all their wealth and prosperity; The capabiy os de-
vclopment Of our Australian possessions was almost
rnknnwn the West Indies were recling under The o.
ects Of recent patton and even tanada nov so
prosperous, was passing under ccud OF internal de
cord. such a change as that wnmh he meant 90
indicate the great propose! for the confederation
OF our North American erov,nccs 1t vas sometimes
urged arains. that proposal that II nvoycd gigantic
revolntion Of The c.stipq state or things rcr his own
rac nnitnc asJe All olser obiecions and unon
the scheme it, merits, he cnn'd moi concur in
that opinion ihere would sti srbssf The srne ns,n
tons in RESPECTS, while the same en would have
work With the bond al upop OF LOYALTY to the
sovereign matter Of feeling while in point Of prae
tho cvereisn 10 rc brhair II therefore med
to him that there would, II the proposed change were 20
DC carried into eject be very e aeps'Iuro from tns
there world be broader theatre and larger body OF
actors 1t must on the other hand. be admitted that
federativc government such a. that In contemplation
was in ~ very unturn delicate and artificial a.Tange
men had been at al, times the product OF later
civ i!zaon and that suited only to- those States
bc united TO another. while they were also so dis
similar as 10 b. incapable Of beng fused into single
body polite Tha change, moreover involved not only
small with great State When, also. sas alleged that
the population oil British North America entsr into
the proposed union the allegation was one which he
thought ought he measured with the AID OF all the
lights which he could command But there was mother
aud different class OF objections on which he 'nnst
frankly say With all due respect Tor the ability Win
which they urged. no looked with very tiercnt
eye. When, for instance he heard IL said that the
whole OF the great scheme Of confederation to which
he adveriing 10 be attributed To the 'rst o.
territory the part Of single Sate-to the overween-
ing desire Of Canada exercise mastery over her
ne,ghbors-hc could not he must confess, accrrt thu
assertion as correct Cheers Again, when ne Was
told that there was no advantage 20 Ne reapef from
the intimate consolidation Of existing interests either
in a commercial, political, or social point o. view
from the supersedipg Of various systems OF iursrru
dence and legislation by means Of one or nearly one
system, or from the throwing open me indusiry the
applying the Of OF them for the advantage
Of another he must at cuoe frankly admit thai he could
not follow such line of argument, could he the
smallest ground bv which such rropos'tion-and II
was no than n propositiun-co nc supported.
Cheers He had, lac thought, ssid sufficient that
portion OF tho American difficulties referred TO by the
Chairman which came irmediaelv within the cognzance
Of the department over which he bad the honor TO pre-
side The other portion belonged happily, 10 the Foreign
and not the Colonial Office There sufficient
labor connected with the administration OF the affairs
Of some my cooric. rot % mention recent addition
to ;ie number tho shape of tho Stra, settlement to
lead him 10 wish Zoe increase 10 the Durueu, He
would simply N conclusion. that the whole question
cf the confed OF the North American proyn,
sros under fsc c90s,fIa Of ke gsrwscsa. anu that
whatever measures in their cpnon would tend
Ia make thesc provisions at once moro compc lent aud
more powerful wonid secure, moi only their wafrneft
Sympathy but their most jealous support. (rheers.)
The CuaRsAx gave .'Tne health Of the delegates
from the British North American provinces aa
Mr. MapoSAlp returned thanks. as the representative
OF Canada remarkng that after the speech of the ac5is
lord, the Secretary OF the Colonies, but e remained
for him 10 saw on the subject which mad brought him to
this country The Canadians, he added, were warmly
attached 10 England, and they felt that the proposed
union Of the provinces would instead Of being source
OF weakness tend greatly strengthen the empire. He
might further state that whep In 1854 doeRates from
all the North American pro, nee. mel a. Quebec, Tue
nrs resolution they passed. after that declaring the pro
posed uion 10 be expedent TO the effect that
the supreme executive authority over those provinces
should ever continue 70 DC vested 70 9uee a &
cheers which almost frightened out OF It's propreiy the
ancient metropolis Of Canada Hear, hear
Mr. ARCHIBALD returned thanks on behalf OF nova
Scotia, and Mr. FisasR for Now Brunswick.
TuE MeYlcAN Question.