The workingman's advocate. [volume] (Chicago [Ill.]) 1864-1877, 1867-10-12

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= Z " clnaa of mechanios torn tninority
e hey not, In machine fsetoriSss md o
on Tie machine - form : small Por-
zion cf tl1etwh0les sR
q il ashop like Sharp's where thses y %
80 worE dana hv masbine. there sre more
- : 'ske iclesa a maohI5ea. n lsrrs en-
eIS5 Shops. such q Maudslsy's and Psan,s,
~ 40 not 10 Nary nachines. In The 10
ls.1{ nliva ahona ihere nil ha 1. largsr num-
- .!rnin-eS a m..hi..s than I'm
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Ir.s 1ns,r setions - tkrcv 49,. M. ont
"A {erS9 Yas,T.7r 8 =
.. IA brings hardship, therefore. anon nsn
n snhsosed with the dispatss Yes. IL the
- Ia one portion Of the works cone oct
1>trike, % aruls the works afs slossd,
q Auss the smploysr oapnot 20 % sniese
II k1s bis compliment. Imay nentiou ths1
in 3he great lockout OF 1859, for instance,
~ employers never took into account any
'of &hose differences. but they locked them
laiI out. T. ~
bo the society ever do suysbinr for the
benefit Of thoss people whom they urn oas :
- endeayor TO get subscriptions for them,
'Dut we DO not pay them anything out OF our
4 M. Roebnck-Thst il 70 ssy tbst otbsr
,pAofie nav he charitahla Ia than , Our
on members.
-. 80 ~. .h..,,.h.. -
funds. I uudsrstand Won "a savf w. ID nat
seek charity from Others. For instance. In
1889. when thoas lahore~s ve,s th,ovn o.t
AZ employmept IN conseouence of the m.s-
tara looking Them out. throuch NO fanlt az
thsirs. We vent TO our members and asked
them 70 subscribe to shose out of EMPLOY
nent cc, days wages per week, 90 that The
charity was altogether on our side.
Mr. Matthews But | understand that in
the case specified all your men were not out
ot otsem PaOymsnI anere we're only aoous q
~ Gus ei smpieymeus OF oar men, ana y,
w 10 emPloymeat, ana y was IRON them
90. 1G as,ed me one oaYs wages wees.
%. y. uOocn-Iom rules 10 NOS seek 70
fexats'e any scale Ss 20 sne numosr eI sp-
Pfas Ma .n.s .s my = snPaoyeu -.
sa"s 'ekuiasea - "o's .
89 W. vuSs -
~. -. ~ ~ msan y 'n.. snou'u 81,
e.a' neao ~ n'nuont ~ hssAsce, sAsy win
not average one apprentice 70 snree Journey
msn.
inas - low. is ~ notr IL 10 low. Then
~ s"lne m@snAne SHOPS tney WIZ nave as
1a1y ~ swo spPfenuces, perhaps 70 one
Jsorhe{men. IL all depenos upon the class
N& WVNM.
MA'snews-" your union con
sent in any case 20 apprentices doing the
Nors tna1 men 40 les, tney 90 is now IN
pN,"cuias uisfic.s,
IN me oisnel skhiea WORK. NO, toe en-
ere eS nos h"u ~ 70 .neir advantage.
1a1 snPPoslns lacy o'df We would en-
1s@sOf ~ prevent
y Sir d., Gooch-Supposing that English
employers were competing with foreign 10.
oomotive builders, what chance have Eng
lish houses 10 compete With foreign houses
II che Ranufacturer hes no power In dscid-
ing the mode Ct carrying on his business.
II he can By the employment Of boys get bis
Rork done cheaper, Why should he not, and
what iuterest is it TO your society Of engi-
neers to shut oat boys from the works in or.
der that foreign competition may 90 me in
By reason Of regulation Of that kind7 I
should say that Is IL not to their interest 70
lot any OF the orders 20 swsy IL they esd
possibly avoid 1t. But il must BE- frst shown
that the orders have gone AWAY in eonss-
quence OF their not being shIe TO execute the
works here as cheap. Take Rsigsm, for in
sesnee, In the iroa trade they we're reducing
the wages 10 per cent In .rdsr e es=ap.ss
With the Engiish, -oiie Of the same time the
English wers fsdsesss theirs 10 per cent. IN
order to compete .ith the belgiaos.
TAKE the French locomotives; Ihs en-
gine builders mere could not build them at
the price ss wnicn tney are coming over to
us from Franeef nave hezfd or some en-
gtnes that have ccae to the Bssten Counties
Rail sAy, pms really 80 many things have
hAan nsated abOut kham thaf donht tina