New-York tribune., 1867-02-25

by TINT property Their social nfluence use the cpl
tibet IN large their influence Is very great
have often myself felt that the power of the peers
greater nt very part Of England than In their own house
Lsughlerl What, then has placed the House OF Com
uon it now occupies in our parliamentary scheme
IL is Sir the development of financial constitution
IL Is claim that asserted two centuries agopartay
recognized then completely established but which praet-
caly has placed I'm this House the taxing power that Is
the of the position aud character OF the Honse Of
Commons The monent that power established every
class every interest this country sought represeI
tatiOn in this house and naturally because in this
house alone could they defend their rights and property
lChcers. We complain Of the undue Influence Of the
peeIage in the House Of Commons Why sir, the infu'
Of the peerage in the House Of Commons snot
usuTpauon Of rightst is Difference to our author
ity Hear. hear and cheers And so it il with all in
teress. They here because here powers reposed
aud 60 guard the exercise of that power by
and the consequence is that every class and every inter
tc1es has sought and to great degree obtained repre-
senaton in this house tllear hear That Is the cause
of the variety of.ur character and the variety of our
character that has given us our deliberatve power
given MS our hold upon The executvc-beaI hearIand
Is the hold the executive retained by Parliament that
the best nye may say, the only security for the free
dom of Engslmen. Wen sir, her Majesty's govern
ment counsel and cOuntenance no course that
VIII change and alter this character 9f the House OF Com
mons Hear, hear" and cheerS1 They viii respect
and reverence the that have elevated the r'de
popular assembly Of the days Of the PlanagenetS into
senate which commands the admiration OF the W0rld.
Hear. hearl We cannot find, do not find that there
is any security for retaining that character II we do not
oppose policy which gives class in this country-I
fluenccd 10y democratic feeling by ogarcythnt
will have prepondeating power I'm this house, and
assert that the electoral franchise must be considered
popular privilege and not democratic right. Cheers
Sir, If wanted 10 what IN the consequence Of
allowins one class in popular assembly to have PR
present moment s rich in fruitful instruction. | never
presume 10 crtcsf the institutions oi other states In
dcrd hold and hold most sincerely that the institutions
every country pretty well adapted 10 the pepua.
tOn they govern. Hear, hear.l But let us take an
Instance the ease OF our neghbors There is France
country in the very OF civilzationperhaps
not in the House Of Commons might even venture to
say the first OF European naonsferior 10 none In vi
VaCltv Of mind IN acute intellect in wonderful ptrse
verance, and in patriotic feeling Well Sir. that nation
has popular assembly, and 10 IL elected by universal
suffrage Does any contend that the Legislative
Assembly of France is equal viii not say on European.
but cosmopolitan considerations, to the House o Com
mOnsi Hear, hear.l Al can say - that " there be
any Fugishman who thinks that the legislative
Assembly of France eali claim thai position,
am there is no Fenchman who doe. Laugh
Ter and cheers.i But then II may oe said That our
representative lhsntullohs at hot Sulleu 10 othef
races and that the constitution Of France has been
tWbances. Across tie Atlantic YOU nave "a iionse "i
RepresentatlIes which invented b! the children of
our own i"iis anu VCi,ipF m :, ~ IT,, % t "a t
pure patriot as ever cAlslcd lna' NOUS u ec'u ~
universal suffrage. aud would ask, docs any one con
tend that the House OF RepTesehtaNes ~ washington -
equal IN authority 10 The House 0i 'uinlnn'l l,ar
hear And what is the cause why II u this: not mat
the Americans are nation inferior 10 us In any point
they possess the same Drains, uhs ht'he oloou uno
same Intelligence, equal energy and perhaps more
enterprise but The House 's elected oy one clasS
there is no variety ana neither ihe represent
ativcs of France nor the representatives, o! amer
Hear. hear VIII venture 10 IciyF 10 another ease
There is a German Parliament; am proud of my
house Tho Vim contend that they have intellectual power
superior To the German nation lieal hcar Wen that
intellectual people have now Parliament and mat Pai
liainent is elected by universal sulhSe ahu lct -
the first cement they make Why that IN Ministers
OF the King are TO 1T in that House. Hear hear
Well then, we see those extremely lolA, dHu hpirN'-
tatve Institutions elected by one prcpON1ciIg cld,>,
and what do as the consequence hh! that lhe
Justly believe 10 be- the characteristic of the Houre uf
clement which gives various wisdom. d ycrsty OF kn0wl
edge and debcrati'e power, and by mat delheintlve
power a moral command over society WIN these views
considering the doctrines preached the violent, hc
hcartess and the pcrnicous doctrines thai are now
into the responsible labor Otherwise willing 90
bark IN unless the House Of Commons VIII by rcs"-
utons express iler opinion that they ~. IN nson Win
The course the Government had chosen. he added,
was not flatteriug to themselves. but they deemed
il more honorable 10 take part, however humble, IN
the settlement Of tins controversy than tO b1nR IN
mock measure which party spirit would not have
allowed 20 pass. They We're not angling Tor p9ilGym
were prepared not 10 shrink nom the main points OF
it, they would receive any suggestions OF any assist
ancc in candid spirit After All eloquent ymdlcanop
of the House of Commons, which war loudly cheereh
Nh Disraeh concluded by intlmatlng that the Reno-
lutions would DC taken into consideration ON the |'ih
inst
Mr.. Gladstone. 0ftel remarkiug on the novelty "f
the proposed procedure the Of which he OBJ
served, wOuld not be fmthered by Nh DiEaeh's
assumption that the Reform question ought no longer
House might have incurred HEAVIER responsibility on
this than any other subject the responsibility Of Gov
eminent was not dilninished-said that, though his
prepOssessiOns were against II, he should not ObJeei
10 proceeding by fesOlutiOne H. when they were pro
dUtod, they formed plan which the House cond use
either by adoption alteration as means OF settle
ment Bnt II they turned out 20 he mere vague pre-
liminaTy declarations tending 70 uncertainty anu
hoped the House would object 10 this mode of pro
cedure. Their first duty was to refuse eEeIytnhE
which tended 10 delay the pmaIy duty OF eAteln 10,
ing the franchise for never until the question was got
ont Of the way could the people of England become
again an united people.
The very same motives, he said, which would lead men
to cooperate with the utmost anxiety with
the night honorable gentleman nams,y' the de
sire for the speedy settlement OF TINS question:
would likewise lead me, frankly say ~ offer the most
determined opposition TO any method oil proceedihg
far future. CheeIs We cannot afford 20 in this
country ~ We are now IL Ia time that this dscord OF
class and class this tendency dscord this incpency
Of dcord this representation OF separate interests tins
appeal 10 separate interests from which the speech OF the
the speech from the throne not altogether reet Ia
time that this should cease and il is not until this con
Oyersy IL disposed OF that hope 10 see the people
Of England in the ia which they should be M
united peopls tCheersl The right honorable gentle,
by resolution; but think viii be better IN te first
instance to satisfy ourselves with respect to whether the
resolutions Of the night honorable gentleman 10 rchy
constitute plan. That ia a vital question. Hear,
either agee or Join issue then 10 think thnt their
discussion VIII promote the great question now pcnung
and no objection Do taken, 40 lar us Know 70 the
mode Of proceeding That tis question which Will dis
pose OF the point by whom this matter shall be condcte
the object being make progress upon the subject WIN
that rapdity which the country is entitled 80 expect but
II other questions Introduced which will have ten
dency delay the raising OF the great issue between us
the right honorable gentleman cannot expect tnat we
would DE parties such proceeding as which would
be actual betrayal upon part Of the public interest
andw certainly could consent 10 the adoption O re
solutions II found them not 10 he such as tended 10 the
production OF measures but declarations preliminary t9
the consideration OF measures tending to produce d0nbt
and uncertainty, TO diminish the confidence OF the
sion at which, upon every ground, II ~ desirable
that should without della arrive The right honorable
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