The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-07-25
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.

CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
eDeeate ON the suffrage Question Persons Who
. ,ysiapt.riIy Engaged In the Rebeliio9 Dis
l"sneh'ss"' ALBANY, ~ ", July n, 1867.
The static Constitutional Convention reasesmblsd this
Aeynirs
ina; ,he Commissioners Of the Land once report the
smoani Of ialds belonging to the school fund
no 1922 what quantities have been sold. and whether
any lands have been Sold under water and whether the
funds arising from such sae have been credited TO the
SsmmoA school fund. Laid over
By Mr. RoHEnEsoN-That the treasurer Of each town
oosnty report this Convention the OF local
Indebtedness, with the rate OF interest paid thereon
Mr. nsrfra moved to lay the order Of resolutions on
Ne Table tGrr.ei.
THE RIGHT OF SUFFRAGE
Tho PRESIDENT announced the business before the
Convention TO be the motion OF Mr. Champlan 70 re-
commit ths report on suffrage, with INSTRUCTIONS 10
amend as stated yesterday.
Mr. CnAarLais. DEM Of AIisgsny, said he had made
some remarks but feeling satisfied that such
would facilitate the business OF tho Convention, no
The Convention then went into Committee Of the
Whole suffrage Question, Mr. Avosd IN the chair
Mr. I-AsDos, rep) OF Schenectady, moved 70 amend
reson shall receive 70 receive pay or OFFER
uss any money or other valuable Sinesas cofnpensa-
don to be given at an eaecuo shall
person challenged before the IN pecors receive his
does % expect 70 la. paid
contributed offered to e Others to be
$ensaion or reward be given election.
& debate here for the past few days and was surprised
hear such confessions concerning corruption at tho
DOLLS in the western rural districts II such practices
n buying votes prevailed In the western part of the
pate, se could cay different where he resided.
had been In politics more or less for thirty years
bot had thing Of this corruption spoken Of
Mr.. GOULD rep.) OF Columbia, inquired II no never
knew Of the sale Of q vote 10 his county,
Mr.. BERGEN replied that no never know OF such cir
Gumstance and doubted whether such practice existed
n Hinge county. Haughter) II such corruption was
common elsewhere, he know nothing about 1t in his
ccnnty--in his locality.
Mr. HADlkY irepJ Of sencca, had known something
about the politics Of Seneca county for tho past thirty
years large portion OF tho people OF that county
were descendants Of those who had emgrated from
wcre not behind others in buying and selling votes. II
was possible that, coming from the large and vrtnous
sities Of tie East they become contaminated by NOV.
Inc Into the rural districts. Iaughterl
Mr.. GorIp In order 10 have the chain OF testimony
complete as to tho virtue Of Kings county wond call
they over knew anything about buying and selling votes
MI sEUMAKER, tdem.l Of Hinge, presumed that the
gentlemen from Columbia (Mr Could judged oher
localities BY his own. He ttfr shunaker) formerly
lived in Columbia, and remembered the Old practice OF
sbc pedlers OF tickets standing abou; the polls with
Rsonoy their hands. In Kn.s county votes
secured by dollars Eleoloneering was through
excursions, target shooting &c. Hs had known votes
be bought tho rural districts nfy cents,
NJ. CorIp Knew that gentlemen mr. Shoemaker, the
source from whence he sprung and the pit from whence
ho WAS asged, and # he knew nothing about the sale
Of he ready 10 believe that the day OF
miracles had 10. passed. tLaughter).
The question was taken on Mr. Landon's amendment
end carried.
Mr. BioKNonp, rep) Of Jefferson. moved to amend by
giving the right of suffrage to all male citizens Of egh
The amendment was advocated by Messrs. BcKFoRp
and hoDESrsoS and lost by a vote OF 33 to So.
mr. OapYiE, trep) Of New York, moved to so amend
Shat person not qualified voter before the first day
Of January, 1870, shall not be deemed qualified to vote
and wre his name but this proviso shall apply
any person prevented by physical disability from read
Yho amendment vas advocated by Aessrs opp1xE and
l.s and oprefed BY Mesars CoSahH D0wEs and BAR
Mr. buRmII, fdemj OF Sew York, moved to amend
BY providing tLht no mat OF color other than those
Who are electors ander the existing constitution and
shose who be born In this State shall be entitled 10
vote under the prov sons hereof; II the qualified
Electors Of the State ct the general election to be held
November, 1851 on proposition TO be submitted in
relation to suffrage OF mon Of color decide that they
entitled to vote subject 70 the qualifications
and restrictions imposed upon the elocto:s OF the
ae, then and ia that case the above provso ss not
take enect
The CnAIn decided that the latter part Of the amend,
mont related to separate submission and was not in
order undor the resolution OF tho Convention.
Mr. BuRsnL then saId he would offer the first part as
After discussion by Nessrs BuRgIIL and AxTELL the
amendment was lost
MT GRAVES, rep OF Herkimer moved to amend, by
pI2y'dng ihai VI women OF lawful age OF like citizen
shIc nay toEc for the same officers at the same cleo
hons IL AZ election 10 be held tho frat Tuesday In
June, 1885, at which women alono over the age Of
tventy years shall vote majority OF all the votes
s.ysn shall be in favor Of extending the elective franz
Mr. ToLeER rcp) Of Ontario raiied The point OF order
Der that the amendment out Of order, nasmuch
Involved tho question OF separate submission.
inc CHAIR decided the point Of order well taken.
Mr. GRAVES appealed from the decision Of the Chair
but subsequently wi,hdEewiL
Nv CASSIDY, dem OF Albany, moved 70 amend by
providing that this Section shall not apply TO any man
OF coor who shall not DO actual resident OF tho State
81 TIE lime when this Constitution shall 60 into opera
Zion, unless such man OF color, at tho time when he
datey preceding actual resident OF this State. He
made this proposition with view 10 applying II TO
Gently emsncipa,ed slaves who might come 10 this State,
90 a. 10 place thom on the same footing with white men
coming from foreign country.
hasmendmen. vas los,-3I TO ".
Se DAsTEs, dem Of Eric, moved TO amend By pro-
veisg that laws may be passed excluding from the right
suffrage al, persons who may have ooen or may DO
may aso be passed for Furnishing and for deprvng OF
she light Of suffrage persons who shall pay, con-
trbule or agree TO pay contribute, who shall
cclvs OF aRreo TO receive, any money, property or
cardidute ticket or who snail mako or be interested
IN any subject or wager dependen, upon the result Of
any eicstlon.
- to compel the Legislature pass the required laws
Mr. BAsrEy accepted tho proposition.
Mr. PaICE would compel the person elected to Office TO
take 40 oath that DO mas not directly or indirectly ex
pended any money iosecure bis election.
Progress was reported.
Reeess 90 four O'Clock.
Evening Session.
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