The New York herald., 1867-07-06

snces in the West great many things were required
to be done without the concurrence Of Congress
mr.. nrroS, (rep) Of Neo., spoke Of the necessity
for legislation put end to frontier disturbances IL
he could control the Legislation oil Congress 10 day he
would prevent any army officers going west Of
Mfsouii river; he would offer Q premium for
Indian scaps and he would authorize the formation OF
volunteer forces on the frontiers
Nj. Wilson sorry to hear Mr.. Upton speaking Of
offering reward for Indian scaips. He did not believe
such language III 10 be used IN this Christian country
IL created tho reson that the not all
committed by the Indians. He repeated that tue
Secretary OF War had informed him that no legislation
| on tho subject was necessary.
| Mr. TirToS resumed the aoor in dennnca'ion Of the
atrocities Of Indian frontier and again hoped
! there would be q reward oiferedfor Indian scapa
Mr. PoMERoy moved that the further consideration OF
this subject be postponed 10 enable the Senate to take
up the resolution Of thanks 10 General Sheridan just
| passed by the House.
| IIr sUuxra sad If Mr.. Authony's resolution was
passed the Senate could not act upon the resolution OF
| thanks 10 General sheridan.
Mr. CoSKrisG rep.l OF N. Y.--That resolution refers
| only to legislative business
| Mr. SuMSER- This is legislative business.
| hr GRIMES trep of Iowa. said that Mr.. Anthony y
resolution would not prevent the Senate from acting
upon business coming her, from the House. II only
ferrei such originated jn The Senate As tO the
solution Of thanks he thought General Sheridan would
appreciate il highly IL it properly considered
a committee OF this body than If II pushed through
| the Senate without such consideration.
| MI. ANTHONY asked leave. wbcn granted TO in
tho ''egsative'' before the word business'
Mr. BuoKALEw ,dem) Of Pa, concluded that the rcso.
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current resolution not requiring tho signature Of the
| President and not OF legislative character.
| Mr. HOWARD, Vep.) ol Mich, wnl'e endors ng the
! administration of General Sheridan, did think II
exactiv fair to single bn out for such compliment
While there was reason 10 psiieve .hat the commanding
Generals In other Departments mad been equally faith
fui in the execution Of their dut es He thought tho
Senate ought 70 wait and consider this poat before
| passing the resolution.
| Mr. rHAyER rep) OF Nebraska, said there was grea
necessity tor legislation the subject of Indian affairs
He wanted Congress 10 lcgislae for the removal o the
| Indian tribes further West.
take up that rendering thanks to General sheridan was
| disagreed to.
Mr. CAMEaos, (rep.) OF Pa, said he had come here IN
favor Of general legislation; on. he and his political
| wise, and he would act under this agreement
The question was then taken on Mr. summers substi.
tuto tor NJ Anthonys resolution and Il was disagreed
to-yeas 9, nays 25 Messrs. Chandler, Ross Sumner
Thayer Upton and Wade voted in the affirmative.
Mr. Ro.s moved to amend Mr. An.h9nys resolution
by excepting such legislation as may be necessary 10
| preserve the peace upon the western frontiers
In the course Of debate on amendment, Mr.. FEs.
sENDEX said this subject had been discussed Ia consul
tation OF the republican Senator'S and was understood
that the whole matter was settled there. He thought
the minority who we're defeated in that consultation
| should not carry their warfare into the Senate.
Mr. HARLAN rep J. OF Iowa said that facts had been
brought to light since the republican caacus was held
which not known Wednesday last or spoken Of
in tho caucus. He believed it would be wise and pru-
dent to make this exception called Tor by Mr. Ross
| amendment.
| Mr. CosKrISG could not see the practical importance
Of the amendment when the same majority necessary
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majority of the Senate found bill for the defence Of
the frontier that majority could rescind the resolution
| and pass their bill
Mr. HENDERSON, trep) of No., in the course Of few
remarks this subject, said the Indian troubles would
the government two or three hundred millions be-
fore they ended lie had projected nothing in his
mind TO stop this war; In his opinion would cost
as much as the war OF 1917 He believed 1t would be
wise TO send commission to treat with the Indians.
Mr. Howe, (rep.) Of Wis., said he could under any
circumstances vote for Mr. Anthonys resolution. Ii
destroy the character OF the Senate-t denied him
the right offer petition He was in favor OF the
Mr.. THAYER said the Indian hos,ites originated in
He denied that the people were the
in these difficulties.
Mr. MORRILL,, ,rep) OF Me-, alluded 10 a recent re-.
port by commiuee Of the Senate the subject OF In.
dian affairs, In which Is alleged that the whites
Mr.. TAAYE3 sad report correct, but must
have been based on false information.
Mr.. FOWLER, lrep) OF Tenn, argued In favor OF tho
amendment of Mr. Ross and against the resolution Of
Mr. Anthony.
Mr.. WADE, (rep) of Ohio said the passage Of this
resolution would make dangerous precedent for the
future. II proposed dangerous limitation OF the pro-
rOgativs OF the senate. He hoped the senate would
pass such resolution. As matter OF economy OF
time 1t would effect nothing for would take longer
discuss the question whether particular bill related
reconslructon than discuss the merits Of the bill
| itselc.
Mr. FEssENDES said what he objected TO most that
Senators should 60 into consultation and ssree to be
bound by its results, and failing TO accomplish what
they wanted, then should into the Senate and
that their ccnscience would not let them be- bound by
| the decision OF that consultation
Mr SUMNER interrnptng Mr.. Fcssendenl said that
when be went into the he did not know what
subject was 10 be discussed there.
Mr.. FxssESpEy said that Il Mr. Sumner did not know
before the caucus met what was to be held for he
knew before IL adjourned and he knew while he was
voting for and against proportions brought before that
caucus
Mr.. SUMNER said that in the after tho result
had been reached he declared that he would not be
bound by It, and that Mr.. Fessenden then made remark
which he (Mr. sumnerl would not quote now.
Mr. FEssENDEy-I said you should not have voted at
all you not wiling to be bound by the result Of
the vote.
Mr. sumws-And my reply was, am Senator of
the United States.
Mr. FESENDgS-I did not hear that
Mr. SuvsER-I said II, nevertheless; and what did
| mean by ~ meant that could not be bound by
any such decision; that my duty as Senator would
not allow me-
| Mr. FEssrvpsy said what he complained Of was that
Mr. Sumner not only took part in debate in the caucus,
but voted and then when he found himself IN tue mi.
norty declared that he not bon by the majority.