New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-12-20
kim CONGRESS-IID SESSION
SENATE WASHINGTON, Dec. 10 1867.

for he
tSctste their restoration was read and referred TO the
judiciary Committee.
AMERICAN CITIZENS ABROAD.
Mr. SHERMAN rep. Ohio presented petition OF the
itzsns and City Councils Of Cincinnati, Ohio praying
,new Of recent occurrences abroad that citizens OF te
UNITED States be protected in their rights He said tha'
questions had arisen in Germany and elsewhere latey
which seemed TO demand that these rights should DC III
some manner defined -.
Mr.. CoNNEss Rep., CALI said he did not know oy
what mode they could IN their legislative capacity po
tect the rights OF American citizens travelling aOroau'
Every right however that attached to them al h
belonged equally 10 all citizens abroad, ana s"o"
protected 10y the entire force OF the % TTctiye
Though The President had called attention 10 o oer
anon TINS subject and the failure 70 exercise IL ed
be laid 10 his door. Citizens OF ,I uo oooce ~
states who Covertly openly disturb ue penonsi
SoTstgn nations must Of course take the IesPVIhs
bnity Of their acts but that tne sb abroad was
shame and scandal No doubted ne poSebb t "a COM
United states to protect tbe He hoped the Committee
on Foreign Relations would give t t %nsit,cns of for
c coTT by the state Department that the voice OF
Che Nation Wu cPsdifsbe to the President and the
secretary Of State 10 complain that uie Ihhs tr,on
sass OF American citizens had been violated oE ioen
,,atons lie was glad that public attention hau otSn
called 10 the subject He begged lhe OndlI ~
Committee on Foreign Relations Cir SUMNER Wouu nUo
nass nv this subject; not fear 10 come up 10 e
" its Importance He did not ASK rom Iat ~
demonstration in favor u any Iaeuoh W VI t such CO.
the people engaged IN illicit prSSsep aFs p the SsoH
operation and influence as %3uid dnmAo and abroad nj
inch protection lie had feelings and opinions 9ueTeh
perhaps from other Senators being natuIalle1 el'lf
ku an his subject they and al citizens must agree WIN
him The power, the dignity the ability OF tns NatVii
no nofe distinctive than by securing the rights
Mr. sfITRMAN said that il any naturazed citizen
went abroad and committed an ohense against the a"s
Of any foreign country he was aSa9 10 on9 States
70 iy ~ another country who go abroad and
have done IN TINS country
OF elsewhere. different ana called lor INJURY -
difficulty had arisen between tins country ana an OiTi
wise very friendly power in consequence OF us aHheIs
the doctrine that citizen cannot ItiOlSO 80 ia
glance, and aIresting nattralized AmeiiSs MC
visited their original homes IN Germany HleI 0nE -
dence IN this country on account OF eins on tI on
military service. This matter 0ughl 10 We sI,1eu ic o
some satisfactory basis and the rights OF AmeiS1n
naturaized citizens should be esans1eo ~ sS PT fno
declaration by Congress IN answer tVa PIieoDu i i1
Grimes inaudble to the lepol ter M snerli9 s,u
that such cases had arisen in all the German Govern
ments several Of which had been absorbed ny PRUSSIA
which nation particularly had refused 10 resign lIs Claims
Mr.. CONNEss thought the Senate had not stated the
whole against Great Britain Her courts WeIe nos
only engaged in cOnvctiuC citizens OF the Cnted states
DONE but for words spoken within us nts anu
not punishable by It's laws. Aculen Of the united states
has been convicted sentenced and ncarcerated IN Great
Britain for the crime Of having spoken IN lheli country
either of the Senators gone and say that even such
acts punishable by our laws foreign NATIONS ma o
shadow ofauthorty 10 take Jurisdiction OF them II was
sheer invasion OF our rights IN either case. -. A.,
Mr.. JOHNSON dem, Md dld Hot Know Wnat ,,e
Government had done. The United states never Co9lG
permit her nauralized citizens 10 be punished under
such circumstances. 1ugidhu lurlhttu Nl
could not aIsoye themselves OF their allegiance. We
held she contrary doctrine He or Johnson cosuetn
England ms though born here. Abiding TO me recent
Fenian trials and the denial OF their g 70 bIAe1 Jury
the aforementioned grounds, ne thOught tnat war
,,t Nh be iriiyed AZ e0pcedinc 10 this Govern.
right naturaize; If not he could consider II
Just grounds for In answer 10 tine nope OF MT Ion
ness that tins matter should sleep in the Committee
rooms he assured him such should not be the case as the
members OF the Committee would be the Last to permit
Mr.. SUMNER rep, Mass Endorsed the remsTk Of Mr..
johnson in regard TO the Conmiiee on Foreign AlaTs
when Mr. COnness explained that lie hau mercy auOu
10 the too great proneness OF tue American people 10 SUD
he thanked me e2temen for their assurances on behalf
OF the class whom he might be considered as representing
MT. SUMNER claimed that the United states had al
ways maintained its dignity ana Doubtless always Would
10 be precpitated into hasty action Referring 10 MT
JOhnsOns remark that England insisted on her rights
over the natives Britain though naturalzed
perhaps that Senator had not observed recent
intmations from important organs of public opinion in
England that there was disposition TO abandon mat
that there wonld be very little difficulty the
nations 10 my mindr he continued, the pretensiOn
Of Great Britain and do not wish 10 too strong Ian
gUage was about 70 say was absurd Mhen Great
Britain allows emigration on the gigantic scale that she
enigrants, when they have established cluzensp IN
country shall not enjoy al the rights Of citizenship
The preesOn the side, and the permission the
other inconsistent with each other; and on that
ground say that the pretenson Of Great Britain If she
~ the ~ American citizens nm Brush bastiles"
Mr. CONNEss hoped the Committee would consider the
case There must not be too much canlness in the
American Senate II 10 was 10 lead 70 IT0castnauon and
MI WILSON rep, Nass) referred 70 the petit
H HSn sr46 an hmercI e S chlcn ' igprs
Oncd recently in Dublin for period OF IS years on &C.
certainly required some action. lie syIDpathZed
with the object of ha and his associates 50 far as
Mr.. HOWARD ,Rep Mchj said If such allegations
against Great Britain We're true the matter should be
made the subject Of correspondence between the Govern
ments without delay
The memorial was referred to the Committee on For
egn Relations. "a
Mr.. MORRILL, rep, Me-, from the Committee on dp-
preparations, reported the House bill 10 supply the
deficiencies in the appropriations for Government ser
wee for the fiscal year ending june 1868 The Committee
amended the bin by striking ont and adding
denelency in The pay Of Clerks Of committee pages
and 50 forth Of heAsenate Iamounmg to $4,000 winch
Mr.. BUCKALEw Dem. PENN moved to strike ont
"ether House Of congress from the provision restrict
ing members and Senators 25 for stationery and in.
Rert d" House Of Representative"
NJ: SHERMAN Rep, Ohio moved to confne the oper-
alton Of the provision ~ inserting the words after the
Considerable debate eDsued the general subject OF
zercnchment the older Senators tie most part op
posing any restrictions, az beneath the dignity Of the
Nj. CONKLING Rep, y. " alluded to the charge Of
partisan newspapers that not only had stationery pcen
fumery, toatTie, &C. had been paid for at the public
expense During bis OF eight years congressional
experience he had never anything Of the kind lie
had consulted the Clerk Of the House the subject who
Informed him that the charge made up by taking the
items from number Of years, and making them appear
n OF single year. He favored commencement Of re-
fTenthmeut.
After further debate, Mr. RAMSEY rep, MIMI said
when IL was in order he would move 10 provide that
neither Senators nor members should receive anything
for stationery
MI BuckaleH s amendment voted down.
Considerable debate cnsucd, engaged in by
Nessrs. Fessenden rep, Me-. Morton Rep, Ind, Cor
bett (Rcp,. oregon, Cameron rep, IennJ Morrill, Of
Maine, and Upton Rep NeO), who denounced the CON
temptbe dcnagOgsm Of newspaper writer's who had
circulated report that he had received dozen pair Of
gloves IN The Legislature Of Nebraska, after which
Mr. RAMSEY ui-rc,s SIC amendment, m0dined as fOl-
lows THAT 10 member Of either House OF Congress
h. aafof