New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-12-26
FRANCE.


FRANCE AND THE ROMAN QUEsTIOE-BIsMARcK
AND THE GRAND DUKE or HEsSE-CHASSE-
POTS AND NEEDLE-GUNS-THEATRI
From Our Special Correspondent
"Thore is a dilemma The Pope needs Rome for
his Independence Italy aspires to the possession of
Rome, which she considers anlmperatlve requisite
Of her unity Wen, we declare, in the name Of the
French Government Italy shall not take possession
of Rome Loud applauseJ Neyorw
So spoke Mr.. ROuhcr, yesterday, toward the close
of his long discourse on the Roman question. at the
close and lest there should be a msinterpretatiOn
he explained that by Rome" he meant all the tori
tory now ruled by the Pope. His other important
statement was that the Pope has accepted the con-
ference. without reserve or restriction" A compan-
son of Minister ROuhers declarations and state
ments. in the name of the French Government, with
subsequent - and sometimes with contemporary
eyents-wil show that several Of his official utter
anoes. quite as distinct and positive as the above.
we're, without having the air Of it, to be taken in
gurative sense Read in proof his series of speeches
on the Mexican question. 1t is favOrite scheme
with the NiceIOy of Paris, Project Haussmann TO es-
tablish a cemetery several miles distant IRON the
city. To recommend il to his unwilling subjects,
who have great respect for the Dead and are IN
the habit, when not interrupted by the police OK
visiting Their graves on Al 1al IAN anu AZ Sous
set forth its advantages One OF these advantages Is
that the poor bodies instead Of being promscu0usly
hudded AS the actual yards IN the tose COM
nune can have each separate grave, where they
may rest undistuTbed for i've years, which the clio"
ouant reporter remarks is relative eternity" The
phrase is enioying an immense run" Just now al
most ryaling the success of that telicious one OF
Cen Faillys on the admirable effect of the Chase
pots on the bodies of the Garibaldians.
IL Will be an aid TO the relative faith we may pus
in the aboye-quOted words OF Minister Rouher, To
very briefly glance at the great debate on the Roman
question which began last week IN the Senate ana.
after four DAYS of long speechmakng this week In
the Corps Legslatif closed last night. In the SEN
ate no voice was raised favor Of liberty, or against
the temporal weakness of the Pope, but an effort was
made by the three clerical orators two cardinals and
the Archbishop Of Paris, 20 induce Government to
pronounce clearly and positively for the Local Power
| The cardinals themselves, clearly and positively
enOugh-and logically too-mantained that there
were but two rational courses TO follow: renounce
all protection of the Pope give him up sacIlhc9 20
italy ambitious of unity: or effectively protect that
sovereign 10y restoring to HIM the territory Wnlch
ambitious Italy has taken from MN since IogoI
break mp united into confederate Tor not cohied-
erate Italy. and destroy its power OF aggression
OF course they favorable to the latter process
Their arguments IN support OK IL, Seroo ov 0t Ss
ponds for its faithful exercise on the temporal power
and that a Pope beside the King OF italy at Rome
would be a subject while protected by the ruler Oh
France he would be independent. The Archbishop
Of Paris. comparative liberal and more moderate III
tone than the Cardinals, known Wlthai 10 stihd Ven
with the Emperor offered what may be regarded as
the best last terms of compromise that ms order
could consent TO, IN nearly these words; IL would
be desirable. II possible 10 IcsioIc
which the Pope has been deprived it Is absolutely
necessary 10 preserve for him the territory ne
actually rules over. Means saouIu DE sougnss
for 10 strengthen tho Pontiheal Goyernment
by wise and vigorous development OF
its resources A certain vagueness in these
propoSltOns taken with the known relations and SEM
tmentso the speaker gave them at the time Of their
utterauce sort of sen.l-ofhcia authority Ana yet
the moderate cOncilatng Archbishop, ana even thai
weary old ex-Notarian, Senator Chas. Dnpln, joined
with the more zealous Cardinals IN asking Govern
ment TO define its policy II II had one IN regretuhg
its lat least seeming Yaellauon linen rose housNel
Minister Of Foreign Affairs, 10 make ms mauen
speech-a watery, easy-tOwlng, meandeIlng, SWISH.
swash eddying around few past facts and presehs
facts with no definite current. when ne SAT uown'
Senator GuerroneTe attempted 10 speak tOr the pun
pose of pushing the Government orator 10 s0nethhg
nearer the semblance Of n positive conclusion
The brother senators T ybs order q' Of the day
On Monday, and in the Corps Legislatli Tue 1epa.9
was opened by jules Favre, with one OF tue aDieSt
all that great orators masterpieces OF eloquehce u
criticsm-a searching merciess examination Oh lhe
long, contradictory, Vacillatlng course OF Etn;
policy and impocy and nO-pollcy observed III 'n,s
Roman business, from 1919 till today, ana nIS IN .
cuson it is to be noted, Is nearly identical WIN t
of the Cardinals: 1--WE must get out OF TINS dieinns
at any price and there are but two outlets Mi
abandon tho temporal government, Wn 1,; s G.f
arrange then with Italy or, MAINTAIN me @ TN,
power effectively, and in that case; take away h
Italy and restore to me rope e baf measures
aud expedients ia passed. The time, II soiIe
for decided opinion, for q clear ana ".n hicS
was the effective one against Government ana she
one most effective on Government was delivered On
Monday Other speakers followed pro ana con OF f
Tuesday of whom even those who are on the sac Oh
Government expressed desire to know, by S ohs
positive declaration on, and how far on. ehGl soo
Government itself was Then again rose Mousuei:
Minister of Foreign Affairs, casting yet .noLlee
abundant and equally crepuscular food OF twilgns
than that with which the Senate voted itself satisn1
on the purposed polioyof the Government lie sPVSSo
al greater length than in the Senate, ana eSenX
recognized the growing emphasis of the p1oIo 80
for something definite, by substitutnga l SH
facts little more information about past negoe;II
with Italy, and More direct references TO the posg
results of the Conference, for that singular avo ~,
for Government reticence improvldehce a. 10 .,o
future, which he presented TO the Senate, rus apo
Ogy is gem in its kind, and need go lai 10 seoA
its fellow in water as the lapdaries say lal 20
Auburn, and that speech there by our own oecle,ny
of State, wherein in his "own inlmitaDle way, a.
the Impractical world then thought ne mOatsny
placed the constant ridiculous failures OF MS SIM
day peace prophecies 20 the account OF his simlnuJ
in pacific tastes with the Prince of Peace. Minister
Monster was equally modest and something Doidess
in his metaphor-tho implied confession OF want OF
foresight being humility itself, but tho compensat.
ing point in the comparison being the tuss
Person in the Trinity, when speaking 70
tho public. in tho name OF bis empl0See'