The evening telegraph. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1864-1918, 1867-08-08

As have said before, it remains with himselfto
o. You mean. then, that If he will renounce
his sin and free himself from 1t, he will be free
from further punishment
a. That is my idea.
in the future world, the spirit is relieved from
its punishment through the merit of that re-
nunciation?
@. DO you believe that it will be through the
mediation of our SaviourY
A. believe that every man will suffer for
deeds done in the body, whether he has know
ledge OF Jesus or not. If man repents of his
sins IN this world he will not be punished in
the next. do not mean to say that man who
repents of his sins in this world will not suffer
by being deprived of happiness which he might
have had had he not sinned.
q. Do you believe, then, that there was such
being as our Saviour?
a. do. believe that He was a human being,
the same as all of us, and that He was highly
inspired. 1 also believe that He suffered and
died, as is recorded in the Bible; but do not
believe that because He suffered and died we can
go on SHINING, and appropriate the merits of His
suferings and death to wipe away our SINS /
believe, on the other hand, that we must bear
the consequences Of all our sins, notwithstand-
ing His sutferings and death.
@: You believe, then, that our Saviour suffered
for His goodness?
A. do. His life was a rebuke to all about
Him, because He was so pure.
9. Do you believe in prayer?
q. Do you pray much!
a. great deal. am almost constantly in
prayer.
Q. Are you spiritualist?
@. Are you what is called medium?
a. am, and have been ever since my child
hood.
@. Did you ever see spirits?
a. have seen them ever since l was child,
but could not understand anything about them
until late years. have also heard spirit voices.
have heard an audible spirit-voce while you
have been talking to me to-day.
@. Have you ever seen any particular spirits
whom you knew in life?
a. Yes have seen my father and mother,
an uncle who had been dead long while, and
other spirits which were strangers to me.
O. Have you ever been entranced by spirits 50
thoroughly that you were entirely unconscious?
A. Many times.
O. Did you know after coming to your nor
NAL condition, what you had said and done
while in that state?
A. did not know word that was said or
done, and did not even know that had been
under their control. Sometimes the trauces
come upon me gradually, and sometimes in a
moment. was willing to go under their inAu-
ences, but their termination would not be sub
Ject TO my will, because was unconscious. l
have not had the power to put myself into these
frances wilfuly or for mere sport. When |
have been lying down or sitting still l have
found myself going off, and would yield to it.
When studying about something else have also
found my spirit wandering out of my body,
without the agency OF another spirit, and then
my consciousness has been retained, and on my
return have seen my body sitting in the chair
been as conscious of everything as I am now.
My body would be unconscious but my spirit
would have life and consciousness.
O. Can you now remember that you have ever
seen your body apart from your spirit while you
have been in this condition?
a. have been sitting quietly when have
gone into this state, and distinctly remember
seeing my body sitting in the chair. / have seen
mVSelf | relate
dent. / started out to Camp Cadwalader one
day to see some friends who were III camp there.
| had been impressed to stop at the house of a
test medium who lived on Vine street, but did
not wish to do so. | went to the camp, instead,
and there, after seeing a couple OF my soldier
friends, sat down in the sergeants room, with
my head resting on my arm. then saw myself
leave my body, come up to this city, pass GER
tam houses where / was acquainted, enter the
house of the test medium, remain there before
him moment, and then return to the camp,
where 1 saw my body in the position left it,
and entered into it, While in this state never
feared that might not get back into my body
again. could reason about things just as can
now:- My mind travelled with me in that state,
| and have talked to my body while | was out
| side of it, At these times / am under the control
OF superior spirit, and am conscious of all that
| is going on about me; but when spirit takes
| possession of my body / am unconscious.
Q. Is it your spirit that travels, or is it your
| Imagination?
a. There is no imagination about it. I have
| nou lOO many EoOu tests. OuCe sIdTIeu IOT
| Fort Riley, in Kansas, going from there to Lon
don, and was back again in fifteen minutes. l
described family of children, and the color OF
q certain house in the latter place. At another
time went to Boston, and this was proven. A
gentleman who had heard of my powers came
to me and told me that something was transpi-
ring in a certain house in certain city, but did
not tell me whether it was in the United States,
or not. / told him would look into it, and
soon felt that my spirit was leaving my body.
| fed to Boston, where | came up to frame
house painted white. On my return told how
far the house stood from the pavement.
@. When your spirit is wandering, will your
impressions be as strong, or stronger than they
axe when you are dreaming?
a. Dreaming, to me, is mere imagination, and
dies away. ! have never had the nightmare in
my life,
O. Have you not feared that this power of
leaving your body would some time produce q
derangement OF your mind?
| A. / have no fear of that at all. l believe
that PERSONS mind can be deranged by drink
ing, and also that insanity is often hereditary.
Q. Suppose we were to teH you that we had
visited heaven, aud had conversed with the dis
embodied spirits there, and from there went
| through all the universe, would you believe that
we were deranged, or not?
a. If had any doubt, would follow you;
| ] would have gone the same road; | know
could. The attraction that drew you from your
body could draw me frommine.
@, Do you believe in sin
A. do and think it is the result OF mans
own Voliton, sometimes induced by superior
spirit. think this world is full of good and evil
| spirits and many man is punishedaby the latter.
@. Do you believe IN state OF future punish
ment?
A. l do