The New York herald., 1867-12-15
THE ROMAN QUESTION.


especially detrimental to the case Il wished serve it
placed France in series OF complications out OF which
IL only possible 10 escape bv committing
BY provoking legitimate discomfort. NJ Jules Favre
reprosched the government with acting without
consulting the Legislative Corps II was the duty
Q, the Chamber 70 provide for the consequences
INTO long historical narrative OF the facts which
preceded the expedition. He did not admit that the
by the Convention Of the 18th Of September when SO
many violations OF other treaties had been accepted
which had expressed to the Senate ifs sympathy for
liaiian unity should not have sought amcab!s ar
rangement with Italy NJ. Jules Favre regarded the
proposed conference As a chimera conference would
necessarily be animated BY the spirit OF modern ideas
aud the only result would be humiliation the Papacy
NJ Jules Favre concluded his speech saying that tho
pieces by the Council OF State but had picked up the
fragments TO make cartridges for its Chassepot raea
The debate will bc resumed Tomorrow.
Tho Archbishop Of Paris und Marquis de
DfOustier the Dinicultv.
Paris fDcc a correspondence Of tho London Times
The preats whose vieas on the question OF Rome
looked forward to with most curiosity aud interest
was Monseigneur Darboy Archbishop Of Paris Of his
devotion 10 his immediate spiritual chief to the head OF
the Church OF which SO eminent a digntary, no
doubled but he is also known Cor the liberaliy Of
his opinions in purely temporal and his moderation
religious ma,tefs The speech which he has just delv
cred In the Senate, as OF those who signed the
notice OF Interpolation, was received with much
favor, and at It's close ne warmly congratulated by
contemplated
ference deserve some notice He observed, with
reference to the doubts entertained to tile efficacy OF
conference, tnat government was bound BY its sig
nature TO protect with all Its might the rights which II
had recognized and sanct oned and that II any State
Withdrew from IT. and refused to be bound by Its de-
cison, the unsninity OF the others would be then
guarantee for their execution. But supposng the
ference got together, what he asked could It dos
There OF three lines Of conduct or 1t to follow
10 give back to the Holy Father the provinces that have
been from him. take away the whole Of his
naming territory, or TO proclaim the satus quo Tue
mrs. she Archbishop thought though certainly the most
tho urst and the theoiogian TO deane 'right," the
politician should also do tor 1t beho0ycd him TO
that morality was respected. 1t would not indeed be
difficult 20 define the rights OF the Holy Father
justly despoed for he and is the legitimate owner
Of what taken from him by force. But 10 this world
people often found themselves embarrassed In material
necessities; aud after an facts fac,s facts give
birth TO interests, and Interests come In time to be
called rights; and real necessities and facts be
taken into sodount Il wes difficult % determine tho
measure OF respect TO which completed facts and the
cesson to the necessities Of tho situation entitled In
the present instance he did not we'll know wnat
prsccabs but this would be matter for the consider
Of thee onference To deprive the Holy Father Of
what territory now remained TO him seemed to the
Archbishop difficult Immoral and almost impracsicable
They wero told that Italy absolutely wanted Rome but
be declared that II the Pope forced 10 quit Rome
II would most assuredy 10 calamity for those who
maned there after him. Let the senate picture to
themselves the august ard aged Pontir wandering
through the world pilgrim. Why, tie very earth
would tremble beneah his footsteps. and his words
would be maiedicons Would they suppose tn Pope
remaining at komeS No. Rome was not large enough
to contain two sovereigns. He had no inten.
iion to mako personal reflections; he spike
merely for the future and the unknown; but he had
the right 10 declare that King Of Italy petty
parsonage to nave his side By side with the Papacy
This arrar cement then-viz,. the Popc at Rome and
Rome belonging to the King Of Italy-was but dream;
not merely drecn but c very erfrcme of s0nor0nc.
Tns Catholic nations OF the earth would allow
OF possession. into the hasds Of any sovereign be that
sovereign who he may. Il In Rome that the great
alone rho Catholic world would never suior It 70 bo
otherwise and Italy only created for herself inextrca
o ~ ~ 20 ~ "nen s %
not speak OF the pretensoas OF the revolutioniss;
generally spcakng, these men were among the first
victims Of thor own disorders There remained the
third ypothes and tb what could tho conference
do9 Take all ls--give back all? No. perhaps; but at
might maintain the present OF things seek
10 vvify the Pontcal mcnt in s present post
tion, aud hnd the means Of doing ~ IN agriculture,
commerce and good financial organization OF now re-
sources After some further observations the Arch
bishop said that the object OF those who signed the inter-
pehation with h,m that tho Senate should give the
desirable, IL possible that the Pontlhca government
should be rcinsaied IN its lost provinces = That IT
was necessary TO at least MAINTAIN the exist
ing situation. 3. To whether there
were such TO restore 10 the Pontincal
government powerful vitality By . udlcious ani
energetic development of is resources Such The
wishes Of those spned Interpolation He hoped
the government would take that occasion declare
IL would continue 10 follow up tho line tad adopted
and that tho French troops snoud roman nj Rome until
the security OF the Holy See should be completely guar
an,esd aud It's situation solIdy established.
The MARQUIS Dz hoUsrfEa, Minister Of Foreign Affairs,
entered into recapituiaon OF tho events thar have oc
CURED In Italy He believed there to expocs
much from the good and honesty Of the Italians.
and hoped that could give guarantees for judi
cious and honorable conduct would into power
In such IL would not be well for the
Holy see 10 count upon dissolution Of Italian
UNITY. 10 rather look forward the possibility OF
living In community OF ideas with 1lalynoi. indeed,
with the Italy OF Mazzin nor OF Garbald, nor OF Rat
Init mas ttaIw In hnCE M Qax IN
conceive by reference TO the past than Italian Pope
living in the midst Of an honest and tranquil people
ence aud his dignity what was wanting 70 arrive at
solution Of the Roman question not 70 much
facility o. compromise on fundamcnial questions. as
the rapscy. Hitherto there had been mutual dstrust,
and u must be admitted that on tho part OF the Holy
The French govsrnment sssuredy had not
the profession TO impose condolences; . only
va. tho snv element o u. sos,s nsas. sns
sary then, ~ walt and seek for the Holy See
new elements Of security and for Italy the means Of
keeping her, without offending her amour prrprr from
the dangerous line sho has entered With thai view
haly should cease 10 regard France troublesome
guardian anc p,scsey psesnss she bad rendered hrea.
and an offence 70 her dignity this oas the sentiment
OF the human heart and laiy shared IT. twas for this
carry with them the authority those Of Powers
less committed towards Italy than France: hence
sss ds, - 0 Ss e.0 ns suca
all parties Interested IN IT, II as religious
and POLITICAL and consequently Interested all Powers
Formerly congress composed exclusively Of Catholic
Powers was spoken or but u easy to understand
Why such congress was not then possible one Of the
isv into which those ,ha. were TO take pars ,n the
congress would have been drawn. Moreover, at that
moment the intervention OF Franco sufhced. He did
not mean that France pretended to uonopoze tho
honor Of finding solution for the Roman question,
but by intervening alone the task -irplihed
And 6esdes coigress or the great II .,ss Powers
only would have dons more thai snsi France
had huherto done alone There might lave resulted
Increase d her maisrial power; but that she
spain declared they would adopt the proposal Of
congress composed exclusively Of Catholic Powers
sequently the thing not feasible. france might
have limited her iavaiions 10 the great Powers only
but thls would have us Inconvenience. Three Of the
great Powers we're not Catholic, and the fourth
fsly--wss interested party; aud could not be be-
heycd that the Holy See would consent 20 enter into
conference the elements OF which foreign 70 ts
iu,ersss 10 was necessary them chat ali the Powers
shoud form the congress for all had an interest In IT,