The workingman's advocate. [volume] (Chicago [Ill.]) 1864-1877, 1867-12-21

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Mr.. Harrison Have you had cause Of in
timidation brought 70 your NOTICE on the
part Of one member over another. or one
member os ~r non-membcr7 Weneyef had
o ease Of the kind. siM sasus4 AIS
MIR. Roebuck-So that we may say that in
the case of the carpenters and ioiners the
Thing has never happened? am speaking
only of my own society, which has been in
existsnce since Juns, 1850, and say that
sneh Q thing has mot happened in eur socfe-
ty. do nos speak of any other society. u
Earl OF Lichfeld-Is there any other large
society in your own trader There ID what
10 called the general union that has more
msnbsrs than ours. bat not % many
bnnches.
Mr.. Roebuck-Haye you ever heard, in
. eha ~ that anntak.r .nr
occurred like what have referred 10 p
Yea qn
Does pour memory eal 10 mind any one
instancef ! remember Q case at Bolton,
where some members Of that society threat
ened to strike against one OF our members
bssaase he was not msmber Of theirs and
refused TO Join them. He said, in the Ian
cashire dialect, well, If you do I'll fit
shop" meaning that be would 20 back 70
Bury and fll up their places with members
OF ~ JWn society. M
Mr. Harsison--Has ID ever come 20 your
knowledge since you hare been secretary Of
the society that any practice analogous IN
any way to that of rsttening d S6efield.
has been very much practiced In your trade
Yes. - l.
What Is the practice? As far as my az.
perience goes, the rattening that we have
heard of only In reference 70 the SbefEsid
trades is common TO every trade, and What
10 meant by rsttening is that il man rem
ders himeelf Questionable TO those he a
working with they try to make 1t unpleasant
TOR him In some way or other. | win man
l9ionn instance Of rattening that t,ok placs
at Ke lob a. TrolloPe's IN Pimlieo. Two
men were discussiGh over their bssskfast.
and one struck the other. e That occasion
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not to speak 70 hin at ali. Ever
man On the job pledged himself under "a
penaa.y fne mot to speak to him. An
they did not speak to him S5urin. .oe ;,,:aath
They faithfully carried out thsir des;s;ss
That 10 the miidest form OF rattening. ~,
that 10 common 10 all trades, believe. ia
whsn . man renders himself obiecess sn.Ss.. !.
they viii make him suffer for il in some VA,
or other. Again, it is the practice in man;
sues 70 remove mans working tools, no
20 NOV sanction or believe in at all, and 1t d
ning snas - very fast dying ont, but it Il
only iaif TO theShef6eld trades TO say tia
is is not peculiar to them. bslisve hst 4
ieso De found amongst the trades that maj
% considered the most highly edocste1
trades. a
Earl Of LsehHsld-- lXoa have ersas msn.
offences mentioned in yonr rules as subjse
to lines; have you any fine FOR man astinl
in the way you have described, using yioleno'
Or making himself disagreeabls In any wa,
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Ing? We do not take any cognizalce OF th'
conduct Of members, 20 long e. Il has no
any connection al Ill with the matters Per
tanning TO the society, unlessit Be that the
are guilty of felony. bx-
Mr.. Roebuck-Striking q man in the fac,
has nothing to do with your society, as
understand you, them No, moan that vi
haye no rule whatever 10 enforce penalty
I'm . ease OF the kind have mentioned.
You spoke Of rattening and made use ol
the mild phrase sremoving" not "stealinRs
tools. Now removing tools from q man
suppose takes away bis power Of doing hIl
work Yes. a Eea
And therefore dsprivss him Of his wages
Yes.
And therefore reduces him to Starvation
Yes, II may be carried out 10 that extent
That 10 rather heavy result, ID ID not
II 10 indeed, but you viii remember thst
said did not agree with the practice.
| Mr. Harrison-Does your society ofhcially
recognise the practice { Certainly NOT.
Earl Of Lichfeld-D, they discourage 10 1
What stsps ID yoa s, sss. l: . 4.!.:sssyags asy.
thing Of that kind 1 car m6ntion a IN
stance; one of our members was working {
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