New-York tribune., 1867-07-27

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meTt t"y t.!yG svGaring; It anywhere provided
by law of the state. He would offer an anendIhtit
providing for the punishment OF those VINO s"ofe i'''
Mr.. BARKER Rep., Chautauqua) should oppose the
TO Its senses The Legislature can and ought 70 make inc
laws There were hundred lawyers III tne 40 ~
but Of them had been able 10 express me lo, W
the sectiontn clear language 1t was coiusiOn "O''
Mr.. sPEECER withdrew his motion.
Mr.. FOLGER Rep OntauO thought the acii9h . OF w
Convention had shown disposition TO secure tne PuIl
of the elective franchise and at the same TINE
Of the action OF the Legislature This fear ne touS 10
be unnecessary Let us Psss some general ac5 sbh
shall compel the Legislature to enact laws upon the
Mr. FoLGER offered the following substitute for the
ECT0S D The Legislature at the session thereof next
after the adoption Of this Constitution shall enact laws
excluding from the right Of suffrage idiots % 10
bribery or any infamous crime, and for QeprlnS eNg
person who shall make or become directly vi NJ 8
interested in any bet or wager dePendng I uIJu otn @
suit of any election of the right to vote al s.n
II shall also at the same session, ana Om ume 10 uo
enact laws for preserving the purity OF elections and for
dnpr,in non challenge at the polls every person who
shall violate such laws OF the rsht 10 Vo'e al an e4o'
This was received by unanimous consent as a substi
tute for the entire Section Of the report
MIR MURPHY dem, Kings objected TO the latter part
NJ fbe section He cOncurred with the gentleman from
Ontario Qir FOlgerl that the Legislature Inlent DC
trusted TO pass laws to secure the purity the franchise
But how may the Legislature got 1t was thelT uuty
20 specify the limits OF this power. Inc LFglslate t
might pass harsh laws disranchise tine whole body
Of the people. the Committee give SPECIFIC lnsinc
tons as to now far they to go in excluding lie
moved to strike out the last paragraph -,
Mr.. PAIGE Dem, schenectady was opposed 10 strlk-
ing the right Of challenge. This was ata propose
ton. The Oaths, upon challenge OF the NoeI anu io
elected candidate the two safeguards OF the purify
OF elections.
Mr SMITH Rep Fulton) believed that the people
would not trust the Legislature in this matter The pe0
pie for years had believed the Legislature 10 be corrupt
and would not trust men elected by bribery TO pass aW
upon the subject Of corruption The challenge was SELF
acting purifier Of the elections II would be belteI 10
compel the Legislature to pass laws TO preserve the cha
lenge and to take other measures to mako the election
Mr. RUMsEY Rep. steuben) moved to amend the sub,
stitutc by retaining the first twelve lines OF the OgA
section in regard to challenge and preiXng theh 10 MI
Mt GREELEY Rep.. westchesteD hoped that the
mover OF the substitute Nr Foger would allow the nrs
The amendment Of Mr.. Rumsey was adopted
Mr.. DUGANNE rep, New York; moved 20 amend ny
making the Language Of the section aIlcsDle 10 Uim m
tOns. Mr.. Dugame said he was more ana mort I'M
pressed with the necessity OF purifying ponl' Hol,"
tons. There was the source OF corruption as 'he gec
'S Mr. * KERSGN Dem, oncida) submitted that the Con
ventOu could hardly recognize cauCuscs ana pOltca
conventions in the Constitution.
The amendment Lost
Mr. HARRIS rep, Albany moved 10 strike ont lhe
words idiots and lunatics lie thought tho provision
did not vote, or # they ana 10 was IN very ~
cases The purity OF election will not be promoted by
Mr. R0BFITsON Dem. New-Yorl0 would he glad 70
know where there any authority for an IDIOT 10 vote
now recognized by the laws OF the state Inspectors
empowered TO thrust ont the votes Oh ltu
creatures. and no additional enactment was needed.
Of fhe article providing that laws shall be passed FOR
cerainng by proper proofs the citizens entitled 70 Notc
The amendment OF Nj. Harris was put to vote and
adopted, ,--. ,-,..,. r., 80, .,,,,o
mcnt providing that those who arc registered by TIE
police In cities as gaining livelihood by llAcI pm
Mr. CHEsEBRO Dem. Ontarioj said the Convention
was here to frame fundamental laws leaving % the
Legislature 10 take action for carrying out those prO'
siOns He would, therefore, when III order present
substitute for the section which bricer than that
presented by his colleague. Nj. Folger
The vote was taken upon Mr Murphys amendment
and IL was adopted 10y vote OF 52 10 g.. ,,,
Mir. HARRIS moved 10 reconsider TINS vote Ianitd
Mr.. CHEsEBRO presented the following substitute:
Laws shall be passed excluding from the right or sn
bribery. or OF any Infamous crime, and lor CcpuNng
every person who shall uY any act directly or indirectly,
or become directly or Indirectly interested m any bet or
wager depending upon the result Of any election from the
he made q ground Of challenge az such election"
Mr. MASTEN Dem. EriCl should vote Tor the subst-
tute lie was opposed to putuns code ol laws li 'He
Mr. PARKER Dem. Albany was opposed 70 the sub
ing laws. but that they making great gains The
Legislature might have the power 20 punish those oceTs
M t si' citIcr t CorVcrrtion nor Ireslsture
the on as reported c regretted the loss Of what
was sf-cFen ont the amendment Of tho gentleman
from Kings Nir. Murphy.
Mr. SEYMOUR Dom, Rensselaer, was not willing TO
leave tho task OF restraining me Widespread ana II ,
iug tide OF corruption 10 tc Legislature Hc hoped the
repeated attempt, TO this effect would be- defeated
fhe Yeas and Nays being called upon NJ CAe,e,r's %
lro Church CorUcr HardeuburCh. Nastcu, Mattcr,
ScrIo ana Verplanck CDcmsL aud Nj. Spencer UcpJ
Nr. AXTEII rep clinton offered an amendment
nrovidinp that the Legislature aGy dsfranchse de-
those who had voluntarily engaged IN rebellion against
ne tinted states Nh hxtcl said thar 10 refuse 20 n-
coruoratc this amendment % strike blow at the
boIer Of citizenship. Some difference should be made
it,ccI those who had l,i the solemn oath Of tine sole
d gUUf NO-gW "
This also supported by MI Grant l'elp Deia-
Mr, FvARTs Gep., Now York said that if there were
any principle that would be adopted by the Convention
would bc TO refuse TO exclude from inc elective iran
chisc ON the double ground OF crime and prescription.
IL should oppose any cxc9'9n Tor any lnng gnt SIne
when they had determined that the LssaJ9fe !lEnt
ax tile penalty OF exclusion from the night o. suffrage
upon desertcr- and those engaged ~ IepgAoh ll'4 4
would be exercising IeAt 10 PUNISH 10 "'A NC "ouu
not give his sanction,
Mr. SPENCER rep, StCubenl moved 70 amend by add
ing provision for punslng false swearing upon chal
Nh M ROBERTsON Dem. n " moved to amend by
provision that threats any effort to deter from
voting ON ground Of challenge Lost
Nh ERUM Rep. schohaneJ opposed 70 the
cause t was wholly unnecessary. The statute law already
provided for the Furnishing OF perjury.
The amendment Of Mr. Spencer was put ana lost., 90
Mr.. BIASTEN Dem, Erie moved 10 substitute the Iol
lowing for Mr.. FOlgcrs substitute; ..,, ,,
Laws shall Doc passed excluding from thr ret oI sur
fagc all persons who may be convicted ot bribery or any
infamous crime and 70 the purity and freedom Of
Mr. LIVINGSTON Dem, Kines) movedNis amend
orat n such laws shall be general and uniform through
out the state
Mr. VI tsTEN accepted the amendment
Air AIVORD Gep OuOuddgdJ held that so laI IOrt as
this section affected laws in regard 10 ahcsf, they
sbold be- made general. But there were details Wlch
o,,id ot he mgde uniform. Laws relating 10 Ncw-Nork
t be carried out IN smaller cities ard Incorporated
0es hut I'm the rural districts they would DE burden
some Population STATIONARY IN the country, but con
santiy changing in the city. The amendment OF the
gentleman from Kings livingston had totally changed
the aspect Of the amendment offered by MIR Masten.
Both portions we're put and lost .
Mr. EVARTs (Itep, New-YorlO suggested a further
amendment The substitute provides that the Lhg,ld-
fIIre " shall" pass laws lie moved 90 add and may
4, nos 1t.- laws