The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-09-11

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s,ractive Proessding. could have occurred y Great
Britain had not conceded bsgerent rights 70 the Dsur
gsats. Nor Is 70 Do overlooked that forsiga moral
sanction ana sympathy OF moro value 70 . local
insurrsctson than even fleets and armies
Lord stanley presents the considerations which tn
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for the loss and interests OF British subjects In or
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place Of dAngerf II they persisted IN remain
Ing there. had they not oil the protection
they entitled TO more? Moreover does the Jurisdiction
Of Great Britain extend In country, to protect s
70 Which our own cssens arc equally exposed lord
STANLEY oontinues Her Hajssty's government had to
consider the rap,dty with which events were succeed.
ing one another on the American continent, and tho
delay which must espse be Intelligence OF those
events could reach them. the pressing necessity of
definite instructions the authorities In their colonies
and their naval stations the Of conflict.
On the contrary. IL seems to us that prudence and
friendship. had they been deliberately consulted would
have suggest 10 her Nsjesty government to walt for
the development Of events and dshnsve action OF the
courses open to thsm either TO acknowledge the block
ade and proclaim neutrality, refuse acknowledgment
On 'Se rsn ~a so
the blockade did not make necessary declaration OF
belligerent rights TO the rebcls
do not deem necessary TO reply at large to the re.
1ecions which Lord Stanley makes upon the conduct OF
this government regard to tho proceed nss OF the So
called Fenlans Tho Fenlan movement neither begins
ceedings not native csens OF the United States.
but they are natives Of Great Britain, though
the United ssse, rssr oasrsi with Great Britain Is
not Amer can. but British one-as old sincerely
hope not be as lasting as the union Of the United
Kingdom. Their aim Is not American hut British revo.
luton In seeking TO make the territory OF tho United
States base for the organization OF republic in Ire
ishmen. there they alice that they have followed
example proceedings Of British subjects In regard 70
our civil war. allowed by her MAesiy's government.
Tho pOlicV PROCEEDINGS of the in
regard to these parallel have not assmilaed
The United States government has not recognized the
Irish republic belligerent, and has disarmed ts
forces when found within its territories and waters.
With regard to the manner In which this protracted
With the sentiments expressed by Lord Stanley. We
should even think better that be brought to an end
Usrss,
nations each Of which Is powerful enough nnrc the
other deeply, while their maintenance Of conflicting
to all nations The United States think not only easier
and desirable that Great Britain should ackncw-
ledge and satisfy the claims for indemnity which wo
have submitted than II would be to end an equal and
wise arbitrator who would consent 10 adjudicate
them. II, howeve.. her Najes'y's government
for reasons satisfactory 10 them, should prefer
the remedy OF arbitration, tho United States
would not object The United States, in that case,
would expect refer whole controversy just A. 1t
found in the correspondence which has taken place
between the two governments With such furtcer cyl
imposing restrictions, conditions limitations upon
the umpire. and without waving any principle or argu-
mont on either side They cannot consent to waive any
question upon the consideration that II involves point
or national honor; and the other hand they will
not require that any question Of national pride or honor
shall be expressly ruled and determined SUCH II
her Majesty's government shall In these views
the President will be ready to treat concerning the choice
Of an umpire am SIR your G9sdls1i ssry SEWARD
From Lord Stanley to MIR. Bruce.
FOREIGN OFFICE March 9, 1857.
SIR transmit TO you herewith copy OF MT.
Stewards reply. which was communicated to me by Mr..
uesOaCn
30h Of ember, the subject OF the Alabama claims
In this reply as you VIII perceive ar Seward ara. re- .;
the United states in the previous ccrrespondence on the
subject OF these claims and again discusses the charsc
merce Of the United States the claims originate the
sponsibility OF the British government for the equip
men, and proceedings Of those sna a0o.U t
recognition Of the belgerent character OF
the so called Confederate States
II appears her Msjesys government that no useful
result obtained by following Mr. Seward over these
grounds They have been fully discussed in the course
Of long rotracied correspondence No new light
be thrown on the subject Of dispute by revivng
exhausted controversy, or by reterating statements
aud arguments deliberately maintained or disputed on
either side Such would be calculated rather to
defeat than to promote the object which the British gov
eminent and doubtless that OF .he United States have
most al heart, namely the am!cabe adjustment OF the
existing points OF difference.
Twill abstain, therefore, from any detailed exanna-
ton OF the statements In Mr. Stewards despatch OF the
accuracy specifically alude 20 two points; in regard to
tho first be observed that whatever may BIO found
the confidential archives Of the United states,
she unpublished records Of the British Foreign ONCE
Mr. Seward designates Thorn, do not far as able
was sger,oa BY the British government to induce the
authorities Of the United States in quarter OF the
world TO relax thslr vigilance ~ ce,ec'ng ana o'nsns
fringe the municipal laws Of England, or 10 evade her
international obligations and on the second point must
repeat IN accordance with my former argument on the
subject that the President OF the United States and not
the Queen OF England, is primarily responsible for the
owedgment OF the be5erent character In the So
called Confederate States and that in recognizing the
Of the called Confederate States beliigeren
the British government found ITSELF associated with the
greater part If not the whole Of the maritime powers Of
Bn. will not be led any further into a renewal Of
Seward and that because feel any doubl 70 the
possibility Of maintaining the ground on which the
British government have hitherto taken their stand but
because feel that by doing should be likely
reard than to advance settlement OF the real qucs
ton At issuenamey, that Of the liability Of the British
government; to make good the Losses occasoned to
American commerce by the operations Of Confederate
ships-of.war in which British subjects alleged
come time other to have had or less interest,"
and which in their character OF Confederate shpsofwa
were different times admitted in the ports Of her
To nv di-patch OF the soth OF November 1 explained
to you the grounds which her Maesty's government
could not consent to refer to foreign power 70 deter
States behgerent power was or was not suitable TO
tho OF the time when that recognition
made but at the same time expressed the willingness
OF her Majesty's government to entertain Ia friend.
" spirit any proposal which might be made 70 them by
the government Of tho United States 10 refer 10 arbra
ton other questions which mish DO at issue between
the two governments In 10 the late and
desired you invite Mr. Seward TO state what were the
precise points which, In his opinion, might be and ought
10 be so dealt with
Mr. Seward in his despatch OF the 18th Of January,
whe suggesting that II would be not only easier but
more desirable that Great Britain should acknowledge
and satisfy the claims for Indemnity which NO have SUBJ
mitted than IL would DO 10 find equal and wise arb
traitor who would consent 10 adudicsie them,
to say that II her Maesys sovernment should prefer
the remedy Of arbitration the United States would not
object but that would expect to refer the whole
controversy, Just IL found the correspondence
which has taken place between the two governments.
with such further evidence and arguments as either
party may desire, without imposing restriction,
ditions or limitations upon the umpire, and without
waving any principle or argument on either side."
To such an extensive end Unlimited reference. her
Maestys government cannot consent for this reason,
among Others that would admit OF aud indeed compel
the Submission the srbcr OF the very question which
have already said they cannot agree 70 submit