The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-11-26

shs. man vas abusing Mr. yohnso., calling him .
Eress, sad he would be turned eus and the cause
sasgned pbcsi reason = give you the general ldes
Eases these removals simply from the parties
shst hsrmonlzed With congefs in the matter OF recon-
suaelionY A. Ina great many cases .ss no. W.
carmel say 10 majority; csraot from memory under.
q lie, me ask YOU whether any Of them were turned
no sy ~ Son
complaint made OF that kind only republicans
Or were opposed 70 Mr. Lincoln and wished me 20 ,urn
them out, which IN nuny cases did; man was very
abusive OF the government and 10 was brough, 10 my
kAoSiedys tuYaec him out, IN pretty nearly all the
cases OF ihis Kind reported very few OF Them In
vsstgaed By The President who acted only 70 approve
Q IN lie eases which are termed uPrssidential ap-
Doniments'' whore tho appointing and removing pow
en- ar, s,, .n ~ Tbs rsssasu,i a Yes. 81,
2 cases where The appointing power "a lodged with The
PrssidsnI2 A. We mako out ~ The Department brief
81 every case, for instance, II IN the Pttsbuyg case
there three applications and . large number
81 letters recommendations statement Is made out
sna sas me mature q saSn s'.sr 70,
select which IT seems TO mo proper 70 appoint
place hin name sns OUTSIDE; Tho case snen comes be-
- upon The paper; that considered % IN order for
the appointment and the papers are hed IN the Depart
ment, this - done In nmety-nine cases out OF every
bundled wthoa,ths President taking the doe
WISH 70 know curing me period while the
PIssden, and Congress have differed Ia policy you have
removed or made appointments Sne ommendation
81 republican members Of Conersssq A. Yes nr great
many and 30 has the President In The Presidential sp-
Q wish 70 know whsihsr that was NE case win
Sss who differed with Congress and agBesd vi.h me
fSssidenIf A. Yes. sir; the papers viii shsw that
William Il. Sharkcy,s Testimeny.
BY Mr. BoUTwEL-Q Were ron Provisional Gever-
asr Of k,slsppi' II 80 whsa were ysa appointed
pointed some time in June. 1885, and he'd Tho once
o Did you lake the cath Of ones WIEN you entered
mnissred 70 me in this city. do nos recollsct pre-
sissly the phrassology q ~ - =. - s.
satss in any conversation that you kavo had with
him. Informed you Of M desire % defeat The pending
sonssisstonal amsndments A. DO mos know that he
ever has except 70 express his ohjsctions 70 the
o You Bsvsrhad any conversaslo. with him on tia.
conversation with him about the constitutional amend.
mont and my understanding was that he IVES opposed
= IL eus What particular means he employed II any,
Q He never stated 70 you any Of the means which hs
snpioysd any, 70 secure i've deisasi A. think not
~ employees to defeat H. Ssr
@ Had you any conversation with President johnson
propOssd b. The rhirsv. ninth Congress- SUPPOSE
have had s0me conversation with him, the precise
tenor Of which cannot recoliecs. 49,.
q. Have you received from him any advice or opn.
SON - 70 the manner in which you should exert
your influence in reference the ratification Of the
N ia. mater and 10 my -
an individual for various reasons; al tina. said OF
.ro.s on the subject was my individual objection
suppose have had conversation With the President
eSeus y; can ony state In general terms that
6srstocd no was opposed to IT. but for What particular
reason cannot now undertake 70 deiail
Lewis X. Parsons Testimony.
BY Mr. BourwEII.-Q Were Jon Provisional Gov
sTnor Of Aiabamas II 80. whom were you appointed,
and how long did you hold the ofacs' A. 1 was ap.
pointed Provisional Governor Of Alabama the 10th Of
Jane think, and was removed from that Office the
goth OF December following
upon the duties OF Provisional Governorp II co. aid
contain what is usually known The stest oat? ~ A.
There was an oath attached 10 the commission which
wAs given TO me at the Stale Department. and
pected 10 cause The oath TO be administered myssr
which did with qualification; there arc several
shs effect that the party has not Voluntarily done thus
ard 80; could mot state TACT that had not done
some ihngs which would amount 70 aiding rebsllion
Bat could state conscisntiousy that did IL
any CHOICE because desired the destrrcson Of the gov
wnment Of the United States.
Johnson In reference 70 the pending constitutional
amendment? A. Yes. sir
vrsssed 70 you any opnion towae.her should
ratifNd BY the Statesi A. The nYst conversation
h with him the subject-I cannot the tlms
but f course II was since the amendment proposed
me what thought the people Of Alabama
wout do In relation to IT, replied that did not think
shsy ~,oald accept =, and wen' on to gre him my
d. Did he cypress any oplaisn himself a. to what he
/. vcsf 4. He did not he nsds NO sxprsssion what
Yer. ~ny time since thsa h.s he expressed 10 you
-. ~ a. 70 his desire in the mattsra A. Never
. Terms . il and have always spoken 70 MIN my
m opposes " ~ the fact; but he has never said to
q & s Z. any s::ssa .s,
ought not 70 % 70 been often urged BY him
.Sx he Oh s.d BE- sssnsoSsy opposed y
VI who desired 70 oontinL - 4 vss NAKED out by
sderal and State authorss =
'ua Did You understand Prss4 S,s Jsnns'n q dissent
rom those Views or assent 70 ~, ..s.. rhc,hs.
or Of wha far q
~ c1psrisncs goes, be listens 70 y, "a y1u nsss ~
Q Has be ever q any uns % you " n your Pre-; Z:
nee gwen any counsel or advice - 70 n snoSia oe
Done By yourself or anybody else On sne smsn,S
cannot recollect that no haA ,a.,. ~.
o. DO you know Of anything done By Pres uen, 1onn,
ssnuos ssv that do do NOS rscoecs anyhinS that be
has ever dsns on the subject 49,.
BY the CHARnAxQ state whether you nAs "a , sn.
ether sources than Pssdsnt piuasef received any
!, x: 9 Is. seos Of s
proposed constitutional amsndmsnk A NO ST.
Robert Merrow's Tcstimsny. \
BY Mr. BourwnL--Q You are private SECRETARY 70 the
Prssideut9 am assistant privase secretary.
o have you .t any time had IN your possession or
honda, belonging 70 President Johnsonf A. never
hsd in my possession or control any such bonds
pens Of such bonds have pssssd through my hands 70
IL bank. as*5Ss wNa "a.
o OF what bonds we're The coupensS A. OF several
honda; the Nashville and Chattanooga hallway Com
pany endorsed by the State Of TENNESSEE one q the
Tennessee and Virginia Railroad Company, endorsed o.
sAe State Of Tsnneasse aud state bonds Of Tennessee
believe that Is all.
!, o Al what bank were ihsy dsiIvsrsds A. The cou-
pons we're taken "a Che First National Bank Of WASH
inqos D. o. Tor sOlIscsen IN New York u the agency
lA6rS. a.s ~ g.s4-..s
O Do you rsooIlsct he amount Of the coupons Of the
Nashvilis ana Chattanoogs Railroad Company A. No,
uir cent romsmbsr She number. No interest had
bsen eosctsd on The bosds for long time There
were quite number OF coupons ard that confusss my
memory - 10 she number Of b0nds.
Nv Mr. ELDafpGE--Do ron know whether the Prssi-
ssut had held those bonds for several ysarsf don't
knov that On them 10 N endonemsns or transfer
.sr.sd M Cave Johnaon. Who ofleer Of one Of