New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-11-25
IMPEACHMENT TESTIMONY.

THE FORTHCOMING IMPEACHMENT RFPORT-THE
! EVIDENCE TAKEN BY THE JUDICIARY COM
MITTEE-TIE TESTIMONY OF GEN. GRANT,
CHIEF-JUsTIcE CHASE, SECRETARY SEWARD,
| COMMISSIONER ROLLINS, ATTORNEY-GENERAL
SPEED AND DETECTIVE BAKER.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 24.-The excitement on
the subject Of Impeachment still continues 1t is hight
cned to-day by II strengthening Of the impression which
prevalent yesterday that majority OF the Judiciary
Committee would report in favor OF Impeachment There
Is no doubt that this will prove to be the case. Mr.
Churchill OF New-York has undoubtedly joined the I'M
peachers making five against folr In conversation to-
day Member said 10 Judge Lawrence OF Ohio, who is
one Of the Judiciary Committee and IA strong mpeacher
that he always liked 10 support majority report and
he hoped he could do tomorrow. "Well" said Judge
Lawrence OF course can't violate the seeresy imposed
upon the Committee but you vote with the majority TO-
morrow you'l vote right and the House will sustain
you" This additional evidence that the majority re-
port will be for impeachment
The following verbatim report Of Gen. Grants testi
mony before the Judiciary Committee, on which there
has been so much speculation in the newspapers and
which has been looked for with much interest Gen.
Grant was examined July 1867 and testified fol-
lows
GEN GRANTS TESTIMONY
have seen the President very frequently in reference
10 the condition OF affairs in the Rebel States When
was asked 10 be at Cabinet meeting, II was because
some question was up which, General of the Army,
was interested am not Of any interview with
the President amnesty. 1 have occasionally recon-
mendod person for amnesty. thought myself at that
time that why because person had
risen 20 the rank Of General he should be excluded
from amnesty any than who had failed to reach
that rank spoke that point. did not see much
reason for the $4,000 clause These are the only two
points that remember 10 have spoken OF at the time
afterward. however, told him that thought he was
much right on the $4,000 clause than was was
my views were not asked. never gave any opinion TO
the President that would be better at that time to issue
a proclamation OF general amnesty.
0ueston-Dd you ever give your opinion TO the Presi
dent that his Proclamation interfered with the spua
lions between yourself and Gen. Lee
Ansrer-NO Sir. frequently had 10 ntercede for Cen
Lee other paroed officers on the ground that their
parole so long they obeyed the laws OF the United
States protected them from arrest and trial The Presi
dent at that time occupied exactly the same grounds
TO when the time would come that they should be
punished told him not so long rs they obeyed the laws
and complied with the stipulation That was the ground
o. Did YOU not also insist that that applied as well TO
the common soldieri A. or course; 10 applied 10 every
one who took the parole but that matter not can
vassed except In OF some OF the leaders, claimed
done what thoy could not all OF them have been com
PEELED to do as portion of them could have escaped
but they surrendered In consideration OF tue TACT tha
they TO be exempt from trial so long ms they con
formed the obligations they had taken and they were
O. You looked on that IN the nature OF parole, and
held that they could only be tried when they violated
question
O. That is your view stini A. Yes, Sir; unquesOn-
ably.
q pid you understand that to apply to Gen Ieei A.
Certainly
@ That was your understanding OF the arrangement
which You made with Gen. Lee A. That was my under
standing OF an arrangement which gave voluntarily
Gen Lees army the frat 10 surrender, ana De
leyed that with such terms all the Rebel armies would
surrender and that we would thus avoid bushwhackng
and continuation Of the war I'm way that we woule
make very little progress with, having no organized
armies 10 meet. - =,
O. You considered that the like terms were gwen by
Gen sherman the armies which surrendered 10 NM
A. Sir; and to all the armies that surrendered AFTER
that .,.-,
o. And you held that long they kept their parole
OF honor aud obeyCd the laws they were not SUBJECT 10
be- tried by courtsf A. That ~ my opinion
VIII state here that am not quite certain whether