The workingman's advocate. [volume] (Chicago [Ill.]) 1864-1877, 1867-08-24


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nAoP No. ~ ueqbere ~ HorkioB W
Do not j. Ut ~ N working ~ The sane
shop, ctfk1l6lyt Is It1g - BE \ ssIeguI 10 The
tad ess = - ~ ~ 9odld pot object II Bib
1orEino ~ ~ skop afnpfg hemnse ahesdid
uok kol6of ~ ~ Unln. s
64 ~ rlat1 a pess dissgrsSa BIZ -
him lhan \ swona1 - 10 > socis13 mn.
4hsro ~ 1och t1in1S fof cxsmpie, q not In
.torforing NH q nm, huk 81 the same tims
f&<Gs1ne toRp0<k - him or mold intercba rse
Sith hi3 ) {( I'M denend on circumstance /;
II - urrlv ksX committed himself N some
wy h cohnexiou With the trade, In al pro-
hahiiity Il h. vent sina0 shop We should
psf him into Coventry. tS
I Thpt wo6I1 IS fpr lis individual demerit,
|butsny qasRsoa was pointed 10 shis: u he
had only Tie demefit Of not belonging "a
yonr socaety would you do sof--ln tha case
~ xooid rots - 4,
dsr y. iVooeh-Tnere are aisrgs aameer
= men - every shop wa are not an'coss's'
srs u.sre nal S--H depends on the 'oeAhy.
Mr. Msrivsle~What 10 the meaning q
Yox twu fste6Rl TO- tie krsds' I-- W. sep
pose that man who has been I've yc4rs II
she trade, whether 6Ipresiticed or ~. u O.
pable OF saFning his livelihood at Il and has
Lsscss.e comps.sat workman.
Chairmsa- What has been the effect Of
the Unssp opca wages and hours. 10 you.
opinion Ito lover che hours OF labor and
70 maintaia . proper rate, or what We con-
ceivs - Be D proper rate. OF wages
l. AvEeR.A anAAaAp I'm tlss,s .lles .hRap ~
increaae ef wages by reason of the
action ar the Union that would not have
oocurrna had kha Union rot existed DE
cidedly se.'- ~ is7sal
And similariy, with regard 70 the lowering
&c the number Of hours f-Dscided'y 50.
Sir d. G,och-Wh.t era the union hours
now 7--aIs d. sends on the locality. In Lon
doh for instance. II Il 581 hours per week
IN Manchester and that district II il 57}
hours per week: and in some parts abonI
the north OF EnglAnd aud snme parts u
Scotland il is o. hours per week.
Chairman-Is there any prohibition rs to
men working over hoursr-No, we have ne
rule u prevent any member from working
-, ,ho,,rs =
LR.e aaa,t;a.. nhr.sa xhich vas used
Just now, dsyou eishsr deprecate il or dis.
countenance iLf-N,. we would prefer that
it was n5. done, Aut still we make no decided
obi ection ID IL.
Have vou anv objection 10 niece work p
w. -. dae;s.,l rl,;.c,,oa y, !,
90 s-s..-.. a, ~ - =, - ..
.I - =. -"
EnRfrfy
~.s' r@y W yo1 '7tss yoa. o"9so.'.'
AZ" = -. 9sssH nv al ysu =
him inr.ush The COMMITTEES az m.nsgem.o,
or his branch. which / have already referred
70.
Doso !" "o v.ty IN WIS " 'ae ene.. 80
we socae.y ec)eci 20 Heee-"~A y % u'
nan nnen rs 'nslc NY ka.4s .nors aan ~
s sa 80 rsse ~ o'n s..;s. I :
80 , . - -. - - r. tss,o-
ne% 1 ~ "a sams,;ms - s.rsl him rom N.
soc;atr
q H.. az .o.,s.v a. "a nm.
sk;lIsd rors ne. ha,nr smnloyed with ma.
chinery mo. not in The rules.
And no saeh nile ID practice Where VIC
possibly can we always Ike 10 get our own
members 20 work the machines, but 10 do
not, as 4 rude, take any action against the
other parties working themE
Sir Daniel GoochEArs tie machine mind.
ers society men f-They are in some local..
ties in some provincial towns they have
distinct societies of their own.
I Chairman-What has been the effec: Of
the union upon the men that are members Of
1t a. 70 social position, OF character, or skill
- tnink II mas oeen the means o. decided
Improvement 10 them IN their position and
character generally, TOT We haye control
ling power over them II men misconduct
themselves through drinking or ANYTHING oil
that kind. We have the opportanity or deal
ing with them, and a. ~ur oest 70 S~-r
tina mn to The marx 80 lar as resAlus tnel'
49, as wFe'erence was u'uo 49,
49, 10y stats loat IN ma"J "e.'. ~
piece "ofA Pfsosssed, ana " Is opty IN ieis-
tricts where p'ecssxoFk is about 20 O. '"t5o-
society taxes aci'ou :" ~
70 ps emf It's INTRODUCTION w'sa y ~"
t'on that, because in several ESTABLISHMENTS
In Lancashire, for instance, piece-Work
the ~. ..ts,n,t =, -sstr;rt the imam.
~ oe - ~. !. 4ros "a tha hoor. ~ H.
~, 11..Ir fh;rk 4, wo,,,d
~ s..rc.,r 800 - A. s,ch ! thing
~. 49,. s.,.ss ,.lo.,sd IA conssoa.nc.
~ ,hs bo,,rs ns;n., Ia1sacsA th.t = Ar Avi.
dent sI.Dec;des,Is No. = - -, Il
Earl 81 L;ohfieid-Tbere va DISPUTE be
tween employers and employed in ysu,
trade In 1859. was there not s.~es.
And that led TO a lock -out Yes, tha
led TO q lock oct IG III. rf-E I
Aud ID 10 since that time that your ssciety
has increased so much Ia numbers. believe
Yes. at the time when the DISPUTE tool
place we had about 70 600 members. and di.
rec;y after the dispute was set,,ed some
Z, 900 Of our memb RS left. However. shortly
Afterwards the society began TO recover is.
sell, anS - aos numbers wkst have SEATED
think you stated there had been no strik'