The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-06-10

borough franchise on = principle sound, safe and
popular. Hear hcar.) The principle is rating, and
1t Is now proposed that a great proportion OF the
raiepayers OF the country should be placed by your
legislation in position that they cannot avail them
selves OF the political privileges you are comforting
upon them except the condit that they should be
rated and perform the duties that devolve upon raepay
ers Hear hear On what ground is y that person
living IN dwelling rated at GA TO be deprived or the
privilege that you bestowing the rest Of his
fellow citizenss lHearl You do IL on the assumption
that he Is man that does not really pay his rates that
his rates are TO be paid for him; he person in
30 poor position that really that he
is respons BILE person the sphere Of life 10 which he
Is placed But tho facts OF the Hear
hear) The class who live In "a pay their
with more punctuaty than classes living in houses rated
al hiehcr ngure t'Hear, hear, aud son OH =" You
may say "Oh, Oh, but shall give you a fow cases
provo it. In Bury the total male occupation Of
Of these persons excused from paying rates
Hear, Eear In Cheltenham ere $40 malo occu-
(Hear. hear.l But Il go 10 the total number Of
occupations from GO and under flo will found that
there are 1905 in Chethenham, and that 7l8
cused. Hear, hear You will Ind that the persons
rated at "a pay with more puncualy than the class
rated at higher figure. Hear hear In Rochdale the
number Of male occupations under "a amount to 043,
and there are excused from payment only twenty-five
Mr. BRriHr-But all the workmen q houses in Rochdas
have their rates paid by the landlord. Hear, hear
Tue CHANCELLOR THE ExcREoUER-That may DO so,
but 1t is not under the small Tenements Act
Mr.. J. b. SMiTH-They pay full rates
The CHANCELLOR OF TUE ExoHEQuER-We lay down
sound principle, which has been accepted by the
mttee and why now to adopt motion that
would. If accepted shake and enfeeble measure which
commands the confidence Of the country and will lead
TO its security Hear hear) l will not sanction
attempt that WILL II adopted undo much Of what has
been done, and by what our legislation must be weak
ened and enieeblcd. Hear, hear)
Mr.. GLADsroAE-l have never by word or nsnuaton
raised any question az 10 the consistency or
ency Of her Maestys government and Of the right hon.
orabe gentleman opposite; and others who sit near me
universally pursued the same course because Ii OBJ
vous that by recalling past grievances and
We would not have promoted but, the contrary, i'm
peded tho question Of Parliamentary reform. (Hear,
hear) had hoped, until | heard the speech Of the
right honorable gentleman, that we should continue to
pursue that course OF aostentationlHear hearl-but
really after listening to his remarks arrive
the conclusion that 1t is impossible TO give them that
kind OF confirmation which they would receive from
silence Hear, hear.l Though l. like my honorable
friend the member Birmingham, of opinion that
there persons connected with the lowest class Of
householders which would make glad to an in
termedate region established within which The votes
should not extend yet, looking TO the bill whole,
cannot for moment hesitate TO say that il confers
large liberal and equal enfranchisemcnt upon large
masses OF my fellow counrymen peculiarly qualified for
the exercise Of the franchise Hear hear.l Will
ton should be applied tHear, hear) II there
which the Sooa sense Of Tho aammunv VIII a,.c,u sn
correct and keep within lims compatible with the
safety Of tho community Iear, hear.) But the right
honorable gentleman has raised most needless quss.
ton calling upon agree the assertion that the
framework OF this bill is consistent with the and
opinions OF himself and his colleagues former
sons. Hear hearl Ny regard for historical accuracy,
my OF the necessity that this matter should be
more clearly understood, induces endeavor
fresh the right honorable gentlemau's recollection.
lHear, hearl The right honorable gentleman seems TO
that IL last year. instead Of proposing franchise
limited to occupation Of CT, had proposed a
franchise that would extend the provisions OF the Re-
form bill to all householders without distinction we
would have had his support lHear, hear.) Now during
the anxious discussion OF four months last year- the
right honorable gentleman had then the opinion which
he tells US ne has-how is it THAT in the midst
Of these controversies they were never glanced at
deposition cheer5) How was IL that the remarkable
speech made tho other night by my right honorable
friend the member for Cane-if not the most remark
able that no has made this queston-was received by
the party dead silence; and why was II that last
two hundred and forty Threats the opposite benches
that might have been made not or flesh but Of BRASS
they wrung 50 loudly applauded his speeches this
same question: Opposition cheers)
MI GLADSTONE then quoted from speeches made by
some OF the Minister'S the effect that they would
consent TO household suffrage, and from Mr. Disrass
speech in 1855 to the effect that he Was against any
lowering Of the borough franchise
Mr. scRorE's amendment withdrawn, and the
House having negatived all the fancy franchises pro-
Rress ordered to be reported