The New York herald., 1867-06-21

or the report whether the Comptroller would pay the
\ expense question:; whether TINS Convention
should make the contract another. He argued thai
the Convention had all the necessary for the por
fornance Of ITS DUTY and that TINS printing OF me de-
| mass OF the Convention IL was not, In his mind,
/ question the influence Of the publication OF the
debates ON the public mind but it was rather
| question a. TO the facility which II would
give 10 members OF the Convention. He also
! argued as to the importance OF accurate verbatim
reports OF proceedings to members from the
risk Of being caricatuIed or msrepresenied by news
paper correponden's He refyred 70 the fact that Con-
pgs he did not know any good reason why the Con.
vention should not do so.
| Mr. BARKER, (rep.) OF Chausauqua, moved 10 amend
the resolution by making II road
That the Comptroller and Secretary OF State requested
w e. daily PGsA7a hs in Che
debates Of the Convention as furnished BY the steno
saoS s ss''0na0's rates. n0' '''s''ns IN snr' amount
He argued that In that form there would be viola
ton Of law, as those officers were authorized to make
contracts for the printing Of the Convention.
Mr.. PARKER, tdem) Of Albany, would have obec-
on 10 the proposed amendment except that IL would
involve delay in nd, ertsng for propcsa and no thought
1t high time that the debates were laid the desks Of
sand BY Mr. Murphy Is 70 the power Of the Convention
to incur such 6xshsss is are becessy 10 the proper
performance or s duties The Convention certainly could
not DO trammelled BY past legislative action the
subject They all agreed the great convenience Of
having the full report Of their proceedings published
from day to day. and another important consideration
was that OF keeping the people informed OF the dongs
Of the Convention that when called upon to vote
the constitution TO be submitted next November the
people should have the OF knowing the
shown in the discussion for against any particular
part OF IT. &c knew OF no form in which that informa
on vas likely to be given to the people SO efectuaiy
as In the form proposed II the debates published
In these two papers, representing the great parties
OF the State, they would thus be brought within the
reach OF every intelligent voter.
Mr.. AlvoRD ,repl of Onondaga, remarked that the
aggregate circulation Of those two journals in his county
was certainly not more than seyensynve copies, ana
ton should be confined the readers Of those copies
and whether II the local papers repnbshed the debates
they should not be also entitled to $4,000 eachf II the
object to keep the people informed Of the proceed
ngs OF the convention that was certainly the best way
eo ns
OF State for the printing OF the convention tho con-
tractor entitled to have all the printing, and would
certainly have equitable claim to the profits to be
derived from this newspaper publication He was,
therefore, or opinion that the convention should not
proceed further in the matter without fully understand
ing the terms Of the contract already made
Mr. CoRRkT Fep OF Onondaga, argued in favor Of the
report Of the committee
Mr. GOULD, trep) of Columbia with view Of enabling
the Convention 70 ascertain precisely the Of the
made BY the Secretary of state and the Comp
Toer, moved 70 'sy the resolution on the table. The
Mr. FrRRY repl Of otsego, moved that the report be
referred TO the standing Committee on Contingent Ex
penses s r
Mr.. ERAsTus BRooKs spoke against the motion. The
question should be disposed Of now or never. The mo-
ton was rejected
Mr. NELSON, tdem) Of Dutchess, argued in favor Of
the report Of the select committee as the publication
in the newspapers was certainly the most convenient
and useful form The people Of this state had tnus
districts having actually cast not single vote on
the questionand he therefore thought It well to en-
deavor through the publication Of their proceedings IN
the newspapers enlist OF public attention. Il
might be that but very small proportion OF the people
s
them thus brngng 10 the whole people the knowledge
OF their proceedings.
Mr. CLINTON dem Of Erie, was opposed to the pas
sage OF the resolution in any form. II 1t was to be
passed In any form be preferred Il In the form Of an
amendment, offered By the gentleman from ChatauquA
He not convinced that the publication Of their pro-
ceedng IN these newspapers would bring them before
many Of the people OF the State would add much TO
Mr. n TowssEnD rep Of Rensselaer,, favored the 70
port Of the special commsteo because he believed the
publication Of the debate necessary to their own nsuc
Mr. SPENCER trep) Of stsubsD, argued that the Cen-
vention had right TO determine for itself what printing
Mr. CARPENTER. (rep.) OF Dutchsss, offered an
amendment resolution directing the senogTapher Of
and Albany AtIas within tssny -four hours Il possible
after tho debates and proceedings OF each day. egole
manuscript report Of such debates and procssdngs, Il
Mr. McDoxAID, Of Ontario explained the contract a.
ready made regard printing with the Proprieors Of
eight pages-each pagsnot less than 5000 ems-S5 ss
and for each additional hundred copies OF eight pages
he uUoofNto0o the 20 D. Sno C0otuCt wa
that they Intended TO publish the debates IN their paper
xrsss % Who was - member q The convsnsion, whether
Mr. CASSIDY, tdsm) Of Albany zone Of the propris,ors
Of the Aygus) disclaimed all knowledge OF It. s
Mr. MCDONALD remarked that the Journal had stated
that IS the reason.
Mr. FRAxcIs stated that in conferences with the pro-
prcton OF the journal he had been assured that
under no circumstances would they publish the debates
and that QhOuid Ia aYlv
| report, 80 TO settle that question
Mr. MCDONALD repeated that II was understood that
that the contractors intended up the proceed
| ines for publication in their paper tthe JosrndD and
stood that plan being carried on and that
the debates were being sereoyped as they appeared IN
the Journal without any amendment or alteration. He
referred tie fact that both those papers published the
debates OF the Convention OF 1876, having bad them
reported at their expense, and neither asking
getting cent from the Convention.
Mr. MuRPHr remarked that that enterprise had almost
bankrped those papers, and he added that the proceed
ings as published BY them were by no means full For
Instance there In those reports syllable OF the
debate that took place on the question Of calling future
conventions.
Mr.. GRrEIEy said he would support the amendment
offered by Mr. Carpenter OF Duchess and he entreated
the Convention to close the controversy now He6e-
lievcd proposition Of the gentleman from Dutcness
people Of the state The Convention had provided
at tho expense Of tho people, for full
stenographic report Of It's proceeding BY an abls
would De either worth printing would not be. They
would at all events, under the contract already made,
be printed pamphlet FORM should they also be pub
lshed for the information Of the people IN the
papers He thought they ought 70 be- and that uness
they were exceedingly dull and trivial they would bo
II the Convention provided 81 considerable expense
have its proceedings thoroughly reported he thought
the leading journals Of Albany might very we'll afford
70 publish that report He did not wish 70 advertise
the people that the debates Of the Convention
be so poor and worthless that the Albany journals
could afford to print them II so the people would
naturally conclude that they could not afford 70 read
/ them unless they were paid also. u.aughter) In the
county OF westchester with hundred and twenty
thousand population, there were certainly not thirty
copies taken OF both those Albany papers, and ho
thought IL rather hard that that people should DO taxed
in order to enghten the people OF another part Of the
State He did not believe that ave hundred copies Of
both those journals circulated among tho people living
below the Highlands, aud more than onethir OF the
people Of the State lived thore. Hc should therefore
support the amendment offered by the gentleman from
Dutchcss and should oppose tho other amendment and
/ the original resolution.
Mr. FRANCIS thought It well to state that unless the
resolution adopted there would be newspaper
publication OF the OF their procepd