The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1867-09-14

by sailing vessels. The cultivation of sugar cane,
coffee, oranges and other articles will benefit all
classes IL is not surprising that there should
be some opposition TO this bill at first you
did not understand it; but now that the benefits
are understood, should be surprised to see oppo-
sition. If the people are better clothed and have
more comforts in their houses than BEFORE it is be-
cause they nearer To in California, and the
money is in the country and natives have their share
of it do not fear any trouble with other countries
about treaty of this sort. When other countries
ready, shall be happy TO make one with them,
and it Will benefit The people of those countries
will be pleased to prosper. Their Representa-
ftiyes glad 10 see us prosper. .l.
His Ex. c. de varigny-I have but little to say
/ after the remarks of the Hon. c. r. Bishop. 1t is
our privilege to close the debate but waive it and
hope that the members are ready to proceed.
Hon. D. Kalakaua supported the views of the Hon.
L. Ahoo; but would like To the tax bill first. The
deficit is supposed TO be S67 Goo L think it will be
/ larger. German merchants will go to the United
States, and buy goods and thus get them in duty
free. 'hink the Hon. C. X. Bishop should be salts
fed that the House deferred his amendment TO the
resolution of the Hon. L. Aholo. The Revenue Bill
should first come before this House. l would like to
ask the Ministers if they do not think the deficit Will
not be larger than they have said.
J His Ex S. III. Phillips replied-that the estimate
arrived at as hu skill could make it.
/ Hon. G. B. Ukeke-I had hoped that the discus
sion this bill ended, but see that some are
inclined to upset work of yesterday. L hear
some OF the members opposing TINS Dlli Ihey s'tiu
yes the bill yesterday, and to-day they raising
all sorts of objections. L had thought my brother
members were deeper than they are proving them
selves now. This treaty is no new thing. In old
times, to prove friendship, used to give away our
daughters and wives, and even ourselves. We have
not had to give away daughters, wives ourselves
for this treaty. 1t is gift to from the United
States. We made n treaty formerly with the United
States, and have seen the good of it. If pass this
reciprocity treaty shall also reap the fruits OF It,
1 hope Representative will hesitate in voting for
/ this BILL The heavy tax which some frighten you
with, you need not be afraid of. L tell you so; al
! though some behind my back say you will 1 shall
have something say about the to be levied.
f l hope the vote will be taken as take my
seat. We will consider the tax bill in 1868.
/ Hon. j. Kupau moved the previous question.
I Carried-22 to 10.
The question to pass The Bill to carry into effect
/ the Reciprocity Treaty. was then put.
The ayes and nays were called for, and motion
being put to that effect it carried-33 ayes, A
I nays and doubtful. -aa .- f
Nays-John L, Nv. keawehunahala, S. w. Ma
helona, j. III. Eeleluhi.
/ Doubtful and declined to Vote. X. Kaunamano,
j. H. Kamalo .. .l-. . .s....
| The Chairman ruled that by rule Al all must vote
or be excused.
/ His Ex. C. de Varigny moved that the members
who had not voted be excused. Carried.
Several members took occasion to speak in justif-
cation of their votes.
Hon. C. G. Hopkins said if there was power in the
House to stop the publication of the proceedings of
the Assembly, he could wish this days proceedings
should not be given to the public. Such sultifca-
ton and arguments he heard and witnessed to-day
had made him ashamed to belong to the House.
motion to adjourn was lost
His FIX. S. III. Phillips asked the Chairman if the
final the bill taken. The Chair stated
that the bill had passed its third reading. His
Excelcncy then requested to lay before the House
the proposed plan to increase tie revenue with &c
companyng bill The plan was then laid before the
House and read. The following is abstract of its
provisions
Property to be taxed I of one per cent.
Opium, 100 per cent ad valorem
Tobacco, 80 per cent. ad valorein.
Gold and silver plate and jewelry, so per cent ad
valorem.
Property of the value of 100 dollars or under to
be exempt from taxation.
His Ex. S. III. Phlips-I wish to say few words
on this measure. 1t will be remembered that His
Majesty's speech contained the wish that the tax
should fall equally all classes In framing this
bill We have endeavored to keep this in mind The
property is taxed whenever found the man with the
most property is most taxed. 1t would seem Just
that the poorer classes should be exempt from taxes
The man who, by hard work, secures kuleana worth
only 500, heis exempted. If he had only 500
worth of personal property, it is exempt. The Hon.
q. Ii. Ukeke right in saying the government
would not oppress the poor. We have stepped out
side the plan of having no direct tax in Il few in
stances We tax opium, gold, silver plate and to-
bacco. No one Will object to this think. Tobacco
is raised here, and is taxed but 10 per cent; now
we raise it TO 80 per cent. This will protect the
grower. Tobacco is heavily taxed everywhere, it is
a luxury, and those who use it should pay the tax:
Gold and silver plate is luxury, and those who
it will pay the Although this matter has given
trouble still we think our plan is just and
fair. If the treaty goes into full effect, common
goods will be cheaper Poor people will escape
~ onI will ha tod nj
cles of luxury, if used, will be little
heavier taxed The only question of Importance
is the tax of three-quarters OF one per cent
This however, is very light taxation. This people
have no idea of the lghtness of their taxation. L
have heard that in the United States person has to
pay about one-third of his income, and so it is in
some other countries We do not make any increase
of expense for assessments or collection of taxes
Hon. L. Aholo moved 's that the plan and bill be
referred to the Committee Printing, and that they
have it printed for the House"
His Ex C. de Vargny-I fully agree in the plan
proposed by the Minister of Finance. If the House
does not wish to consider it. let it be printed in the
newspapers and people can discuss 1t as much as they
please before the next Legislature
Hon. j. W. keawehunahaa-It is not certain that
the United States will ratfy this treaty. and there
fore had it not better lay for the next Legsla
The motion of the Hon. L. Aholo was then put and
carried.
On motion the House adjourned until tomorrow
ut 10 O'Clock.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 11th.
House met, pursuant to adjournment, at 10 O'Clock,
and opened with prayer.
The President panied to that of the
Mobiles as well as Representatives were not in their
places l suppose that they will in after a
while and raise frivolous objections to the pro-
ceedings, and thus prolong the session. l under
the necessity of instructng the Sergeant-at-Arms to
bring in the tardy members
Minutes read.
Hon. J. III. Kamalo-Before the minutes are ap- /
proved would ask that my vote the bill ''
ry into effect Convention for Commercial Recipro-
city with the Untei States Arnerica =, he nlcel