New-York tribune., 1867-08-29

Controller the next This takes 40 re9l power Ioin @ ,
ucOplc They elect the Governor who appoints lhehe
State officers and all OF them in their turn are inc SGT
My NJ i TOWNSEND rep Rensselaer, asked, who
wants an Attorney General Is IL the people OF he goN
enOri Whose money does lie take care o. anu Hi0s
peace ne TO preserve The peoples or tt
II may be of great Importance 10 the people on l 9a
Of New York that the Attorney General sh"uo i NO. " in ~
trusted 10y them with the OF their interests; ana
The gentlemen non, New-York Day) and Albany Gas
sldy) have spoken Of the pleasant bt'tul oI
IN the National Government al MashhgIOh re was EIau
the reference had been nauo inoid t o - t yysie
eral DE accord with the Iresldchl oi sl Lsis.
When the President Of the United States turns traitor 70
his oath To them that elected MIN, 10 MS duty ana 10 MS
country then the Attorney General must also turn ii
tor leave his office and give place 10 Nalu WHO VIZ
become as bIg a traitor ms master, perhaps bigger
traitor than he This is indeed state Oh llngs 10 DS
other State officers independent men Only RESPONSE
BILE 10 the people What has come over the splnt OF
the dreams Of the Democracy Are they SICK
OF republican governments aud republican institutions,
that they want concentrate all power INTO one cha
mel II they sick Of IL, the pubic are not Inc peO
pie have not got political dyspepsia upon TINS SUBJECT
II very well for his Democratic friends to advocate
these measures because they away from here ana
charge their measures upon the political majority or
this Convention and speak against ana against IHs
the spider the y The political majority should act
for themselves No change has been asked for No one
will say that the present Attorney General not as capa
cratc o leave the election OF Attorney General 20 the
people twenty years ago. IL is both democratic ana re
publican 10 trust the people to-day. ,
Mr.. ANDREWS CRep. Onondaga) favored the amend
ment II was not necessary TO go beyond it in the ap
pOintment Of State officers What the people OF TINS
whether state officers are appointed directly indirectly
by them provided adequate and proper arrangements are
made for carrying on the government OF the state me
Governor Of the the Executive charged with
the execution Of the laws Last night they passed mill
tary article. DID they take any power rom the people
when they gave 10 the Governor the appoint
ment Of MaiorGenerals OF Dtvsionsl Ger
tanly not They are the agencies by when he Governor
is TO exercise his powers as For the
reason is proper that the Governor should select
and appoint his agent IN whom rests the responsibility
and execution Of the civil law He is the Governors only
and appropriate legal adviser If the Governor has the
responsibility of deciding upon acts passed ny the Legs
ature II Il only right that the man 10 whom ne looks for
advice should be chosen by himself He hoped they
would not be cried down by TINS tax oi distressing the
people The people would be satisfied with good govern
ment
MIR. VAN COTT rep. Kings said that the opposition
90 the amendment had proceeded upon the ground at
they were E0hs Da'h upon lue pyolHe, "nav
II they cannot elect Governor M 10 he trusted with the
The gentleman from Rensselaer, Townsend has referred
10 the Government Washington, and, II he had not
neyGencTal unfit for his position. What does that
prOye only that those who elected the President OF the
United States made serious mistake. For he hcd mat
the present Attorney General much more respectable
most only proves that mistakes VIII sometimes happen
meut administered indirectly and not directly by the
people Cannot the people who elect representatives
allow the representative to appoint subO dnatci No
p0wer taken from the people when he is allowed this
convenience. What is the practical operation OF an
TWO and te DeSpe are forced To choose either or
h. They make other choice. On the other hand
the people say choose from the whole your Attorney
Soo6 man from W go VIDE td c was sick Of this u
some attery OF the peOpe The Convention should frame
their opinions by their own wisdom and experiences ana
then submit them the people to endorse or reject As
was the proper respect tnat was due 20 the people
Mr.. NJ. ]. TOWNSEND Wep.. ReusellaeU had always
lived and trusted he would die private citizen. TINS
his boast ana therefore was That he advocated the
part OF the people. lie respected the NduonaI NONvn
ment much need be, but he had not forgotten thar
it was formed in day when they had no republican
model. The only models they had were those
Of a Rngly executive, when power was cohcen-
trated I'm one person. Men ought TO understand the
science OF republican government letter IN 10, thah pm
1857. II they do not, they had hyedIn vain NoW,H te
Cabinet at Washington had been elected when the Ires
was, the present state Of affairs there would nave
been avoided AS II Is when an adviser OF the IIepde
dsagrees with him. he must step out aud make way Tor
another who will be in harmony with tue rest VI the Cdb
net II initiate this course. We shall degrade our state
officers instead OF making them independent by means oi
Nj TILDEN Dem. New.Yoru did not rise TO debate
United states Who was Henry stanberyi a man
whose public and private character unmpeachable
his private practice I'm quiet until called by the President
TO his present high position He tMr IIldeu had not
and never had, any political utilization with MI stan
berry. Mr.. stanbery an old Nhis, and after
ward a Republican, supporting the Government
had this head and front, more that he differed as
lawyer IN his construction OF acts OF Congress nom oef
lawyers On no other head whatever has any gentleman
a right 20 impeach Henry staubery. He had fght to
speak thus OF pure honest upT2ht man VINO went 10
was unaniT6ously confirmed by the senate.
principle of the present Constitution though not without
some doubts by which the state officers are made
elective by the people But should favor tins amend
meut bv which the Attorney General IL 10 be made an
appOinive officer He thought that the Governor OF tins
great state should at least have officer who ~
accord with himself He had seen the Governor OF TINS
state compelled 10 10 To the bar oi albany 10 employ
counsel give him advice and help There should be
confidential relationship, as between client ana counsel
between the Governor and Attorney General lie Hceds
10 in Judging OF laws Of criminals, OF thousand llsce
! lane0us points. He hoped the amendment would be
Nj HIsCOCK rep Onondagal called attention to the
fact that the Cabinet at Washington had grown up under
the pressure Of work and the egenees o the case ~
| this State the dferont-these constitutional
officers had their several duties clearly defined II gen
temen desire give the Governor private adviser let
il be done under other than that Of the Attor
neyGeneral. He is the peoples Oiheer ana should be
Mr.. FULLER Rep. MonroeD thought the Attorney
General belonged 10 the people ana oI 10 le EAeouEe
good government was that which was nearest 10 the
| people And the best form Of republican government
was that IN which the people exercised tle elective lo|t
most largely Mr.. Fuller said that he was opposed 10
legislative commissions IN tho city OF New Orl ana a
the proper time he would vote in favor OF giving the
people Of that city an opportunity 10 nave republican
! Mr.. LAPHAM Gsep., Ontario favored the amendment
| He was unwilling 20 say 10 the Executive cannot
trust you TO who Is 10 advise you IN the
important duties We place upon you Inc selection OF
Attorney General belongs Of right 70 the Governor
Mr.. BAKER (Rep., Montgomery defended the report
| drawn between the State and National Governments
The duties Of State officers are clearly marked by statute
Mr. GREELEY Hep westchester did not presume 10
love the people well ar some Of the gentlemen VINO ad
spoken But this nc would say, that II ne was anxious
that the people should tbs utmost power over the
choice OF the AttOrney encral he should s advocate
his appOlntment by the Governor. Considerations OF
locality popularity enter into the nominating cOnyen
tons above all considerations OF talent lntegrlty ana NJ
ness He was satisfied that this proposition TO appoint
wOuld he better for the people well for the office
and for the Executive Of the State
Mr. BAKER rep. Montgomery inquired what was
sentiment OF the people TO the appointment OF all
state officers Z .
Mr. GREELEY said that IL his firm conviction that
II they were all appointed IL would meet the entire ap
probation OF the people They content 10 vote for
the Governor They don't want 10 have whole chap
ter the Bible in their ballot. They would be content
with much less
Mr. BAKER inquired whether the people had ever ex-