The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1867-08-07

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Mr. SHRRxAN moved the printing Of two thousand extra
copies of the above report Referred.
ORGANIZATION or THE LEGlsIAruRE
The Convention then went into Committee o. the
in the chair The pending question was on the amend
Of Mr. Ballard for dividing the State into thirty
two Senate districts as ct present
Mr. EvARrs, (rep) of New York, said he believed
greater dissatisfaction existed in the public mind with
reference to the Legislature and the Judiciary than TO
other subjects requiring constitutional amendments
and revision. Important changes demanded with
reference TO municipal government, but these were
Senate districts o. tending 10 correct the evils CON-
planned OF in connection with the Legislature:
Mr.. Pond (rep. OF Saratoga. approved OF the pro-
posed increase OF compensation 10 members Of tho
Legislature He was opposed to large districts.
Mr. Luplsnos, Tep.) Of Sullivan, was in favor Of
Nj; KRux rep Of schohare, argued in favor Of
small districts
Mr.. GRAVES, lrsp) of Herkimer, for small dis.
tricis
Nessrs. Andrews, Harris and Foger took strong
ground IN favor OF large Senate districts
Recess 10 haif-pass seven o'clock.
Evening session.
The Convention met at half past seven O'Clock and
the consideration Of the report OF the Committee
Organization OF the Legislature resumed in tho Com
mitee OF the Whole, Mr.. Fuller in the chair.
Mr. v.N Corr rep Of Kings said II i we're in order
he would like 10 take the voice OF the Convention
aboishlng the Senate. Upon what principle there
houses Of the Legislature orsanlzeds Why should
OF legislation alike Each house passed upon
every measure in q similar manner. We bad followed
herediisry and The other elective Ths general prn.
cipe Of Two chambers had been recognized In the gene
government. and - has been followed by the const
tuons of oil the states fhe principle Of large districts
for the Senate and small districts for the As
semby had been recognized IN this State up
TO ls46. when epidemic for constitutional
amen inen,s broke out and society was almost
resolved INTO lie original elements He would recognize
the principle at first adopted or he would abolish 1t
altogether The Supervisors vera elected In small dis
rc,s the members Of Assembly in larger DISTRICTS the
Senators IN still larger ones and the Governor who
larger district embracing the whole State AS tho Office
grew IN Importance the district FOR which he
prec edept established In good faith or abandon
altogether. II IS said II We take the system Of eight
districts that We are gong back but We are cent here to
&c certain work Whether II be going backward or for.
ward makes no difference providing we take means
adapt our operations 70 our present wants 1t not
our da'y to ook ~ things that are Catering or that
will appear 70 brng enccmums from the people, but 70
Tell the people .be hcnss' truth and do what will be for
the eest and tend the most surely 70 promote good gov
eminent.
VI. LAspoS. rspl Of Schenectady, argued against
Mr. Dw,sHr rep.l Of New York, said the question or
large small districts involved the whole theory Of
government There was no propre,y Of having two
houses Of such that the progrsssonai character
OF The may be checked by the Conservatism Of the
coor is modelled precisely after the othsrY Ono house
should be ORGANISED differently from the other the
are sold by gentlemen familiar with the practices
at Albany thai corruption has stolen into
sweet band Of shafiiy How "a This to DO preventsdf
We cannot stop corruption BY any constitution You
cannot stop corruption by any institution, BY any con.
which subjected public parsimony and the
sp'ri' Of locality We are to make the very best
snsuon that We know how. II il be rejected II WI. not
be ,ost Our thoughts WI be on the records and may
prove guide for others.
Mr. HARpEssuRe, ldem.l Of Ulster, opposed to
laxge districts. He said be failed to any fore.bs
argument against the single district system. He Was
surprised that gentlemen had expressed themselves IN
favor OF q plan that was condemned by the people
twenty years ago The press had not advocated it, and
there ~m not "pgle petition on ME in favor Of
The question ,hen taken Mr.. BsllArd's amend.
providing for thirty-two Senate districts and II
was sdoped-yeas 70, nays IS.
Mr. BuRxrLL dem OF New York. moved to recon-
sdef, ana asked that ibs motion might lie upon The
table.
Tho CHAM decided tbs, the coold not lie over
but must be acted upon
Mr. ALvoRp, rep OF oaondAgs said the rules pro-
vided that I'll motions 10 reconsider must iis for
the day.
The tHAik adhered TO the ruling he had made
Mr.. AIvoRp appealed from the decisiop Of the Chair
Afier debate The GRAIN exptaned thag the rule rela-
~ motions for did apply 10 the
Commit OF the Whole
rbe decision o. the Chair sustained by vote Of
80 20 a.
Mr. Bvxxri. wi,hdvsw his mo,ios
The question Was then taken that part OF the
amendment prov dsns that each Of the thirty dis
ncts shall be entitled 10 Que SENATOR which
The question was then taken on that part Of he
amendment dividing into the same districts a.
established by Law, which carried
propose amendment which, be thought would secure
the advantages that had hoped for from large de
trc,s secure continuity the Senate and provide Tor
the representation Of minorss He propossd the fol.
lowing
The LeRsAturs for lsce shall divide eight
senate districts to be numbered from TO eight
dis.rle,s inclusive each distrcs 20 contain nearly
No shall be divided shai contain greater
than for Senate dstrict
shsi be yhirtytwc SENATOR. four 20 be elected
IN each Senate district The Of shall
be four years. e.cept that the Senators chosen At
the FIRST election the First Third Ffh and Seventh
trics shall hold their once The first
eector shall take place 81 the general election IN 1888
election shall either NJ
election, for more than three canddAies
Mr. GREsiH,, rep OF wesschsster. did not approve
the amendment Under this plan the democrats Of New
York would elect every one OF the Senators there The
majority was SO large that with this minority
plan the majority could 90 divide 20 beat the
minority on every candidate la a. Lawrence, Chau-
tauqua and Cstaraugns the republicans could do the
same thing, and therefore II did protect msorites
o. give minortes = representation. He thought the
plan he bad proposed vas much better and would secure
The result desired
Mr. FiRLn, lrsp.l Of Orleans, vas opposed 70 Mr..
ParGer'e amendment
Mr.. DrcaSyS rep.l Of New York opposed the whole
systsm providing for the representation Of minortes
The committee then
M GRsuxy moved thai the committee he tps,ructrd