The Portland daily press., 1867-06-28
Trial Of the West Auburn HurdercTs.
THIRD DAY PROCEEDINGS.

THIRD DAYS PROCEEDINGS.
We take the following abstract of the testi-
mony on Wednesday from the Stars special
report:
DIR. Edgecomb was recalled by defence be-
cause ofan omission to ask him about the knife
alleged to have belonged to Hafsis. He thought
this knife which WAS prodaced might have
made the wounds upon the body of Mrs. klnS-
ley. Still another knife was then shown him
by counsel for government, and he thought that
this also, night have made the incised wounds.
Much fine discussion ensued here as To the
possibility of the wounds.
William EdeS lives at North Auburn. Had
some conversation with prisoner last winter
before the murder. He is not a man who talks
much. In Packards store one day he sort of
whispered to me and told me there was a man
on that street who said there were two old.wo-
men down street who ought Ia be put ont OF
the way-it. would be deed of charity, he
said. The man named by Verrill as the person
who made this remark was a Mr.. Breen.
Mrs. Isaac Keith was a neighbor of deceased,
and assistsd i'll laying out the bodies Found
some hair in Mrs. Kinsley's right hand, which
was clenched. The hair was dark and straight.
Mrs. Klnsley's hair was mixed with gray.
Witness also thought there was wound on
the left arm of Miss Caswell.
Prisoner boarded with me from last August
until the 18th of December.
james Dfeen called. Live IN SplluteTflue.
Have no relations by my name. Had CONVEX
sation with Verrill some time two years ago
Since that time we merely bid one another the
time of day. Had not spoken with him for
three months before the murder. Never had
any talk with him about the putting out OF the
way two old women .--I
John A. Berry called Pointed out on plan
his house in West Auburn.
Returned home about half-past nine on even
ing of 18th January. When embarrassing my
horse saw man passing down by the house.
Was medium sized man. Cannot describe
his appearance particularly.
1t must have been quarter to ten O'Clock
There was a moon. 1t showed next day. Saw
Harris that afternoon when he got the horse
opposite my place to go to Lewiston.
About half an hour after saw man in even
ing heard the horse Harris had come back
and driven into the stable. l knew the bells.
DIR. Garcelon called. Assisted at the EXAM
nation of the bodies last Monday when they
were dug up. Witness here described wounds,
especially the fractures of the skull of M ss
Caswell which was brought away from the
body and exhibited in court. The Dr. thought
the hatchet produced and which has been re-
ferred to as having been found in Verrill's pos
session, would have made the fractures and was
just such an instrument as would do the work
best. The skull was terribly cracked, while
two holes were broken through carrying frag-
ments before the instrument inhicting the blow.
Witness thought chair could hardly have
made such fractures. ASA z5
He also examined several knives and thought
| any Of them could have made the wounds on
| the body of Mrs. Kinsley.
Witness said the shoe knife referred to was
capable of making the clean cut in the neck,
although the point was slightly broken, it
would not have left Jagged" edge, necessari-
| ly. 1t is very dangerous business to undertake
| to say for certainty what instruments produce
| certain wounds. IFE&-s
At this point report closes for the forenoon
| In the afternoon DR.. Kilburn called to the
stand. Witness testified that the instrument
| which caused the larger fracture must have
| passed through the skull, carrying with it the
broken parts found within the brain; that in
| his opinion q chair could not have caused the
| larger fracture; should sooner think hatchei
caused both fractures than that chair could
cause either. Should hardly think the shoe
knife would cause wound as the one found in
the neck "
w. Z. Curtis. Have been acquainted with
| the prisoner 10 or II years; never had any par.
ticular conversation with the prisoner excep,
| a little talk in regard to planting about yeal
ago. a. - a IN a.
had some conversation with prisoner few
weeks before the murder; told him that the
murdered woman had but little property.
| DR.. Wiggin testified that he had examined
| clothes pre- scented to him by Detective Blake
| shoe-knife and Ratchet separately, and on each
found blood, all of which was of the same kind
| and was human blood; that he found blood
upon the blade part of the Ratchet as well as
on other parts. Iii p.
DIR. A. A. Hayes testified that he is a ply.
| sician and chemist residing in Boston; that on
the seventeenth Of April last he exam
ined towel, under-garment, Ratchet and
| knife left with him by Attorney Blcknell, and
has no doubt whatever but that the blood found
thereon was human blood; that he feels GER
tain there was no blood upon the blade portion
| of the Ratchet.
| On motion of Mr.. Frye, Clifton Harries was
| brought into court without d writ of habeas
| corpus was sworn and testified nearly as fol-
lows: l resided in West Auburn in January
| last with VIM. Keith; was living with him al
the time of arrest; have lived in Auburn near
ly one year, with Mr.. Keith; am acquainted
| with Verrill; became acquainted with him SIX
months ago nearly-Thanksgiving tlme-saw
| him at his Sisters, where boarded; saw him
| there often; was at work choppinp wood al
| that time. During the time that lived there
was on good terms with Nerril1 have seer
him several times since boarded with his sis
| ter. l knew Mrs. Kinslcy and Polly Caswell
| had seen them several times; did not see then
| bodies Sunday night after the murder, butsa
| their heads i'll the collins. l saw VerrilI the
night before the murder about fifteen minutes
| had no particular conversation with him; ht
I bod beoIl accustomed to speak when met
l first saw him the nishrof the murder on the
| road; had been to Lewiston; left Lewiston
that night at 8 1-2 O'Clock; met Verrili at 8 81
| O'Clock. He said to me good evening; fint
| evening; don't you want to 60 and get some
money; would you go and get some money
He said he would 90 if would. 1 asked him
ley's. Finally told lin would go, and he
said he would meet me at II o'clock Told
him would meet him at that time.
Then went home; stopped at Curtis; Went
to stable; put up my sleigh when got home
| Mr.. Keith and went into barn together
l I n lantern watarnd the hnrSa al
| off my boots, went to my bed, lay down with
| my clothes on; heard the girls go to bed
heard the clock strike twelve; went down
stairs into the kitchen, through the porch
| down the road and met Verrill. He said we
| would now go and get the money. We went
| down to the house and tried to get in. went
round the house, got a saw-h0rse, pulled of
my coat and cap and got IN; opened door and
| returned for my coat and cap; laid them on
| the lounge. Verrill had a Ratchet. The first
thing he did grabbed Mrs. Kinsley. She
screamed for Polly. Verrill struck her with a
chair; put his hand into his pocket pulled out
I something and went out on hearing a noise
He struck Polly with a chair and came back
asked for the money She said her daughter
had it down to the Falls. After asking for
| money he came to the bed. saw him on the
| bed. After while he got off the bed and
said, II had one of those before" l then saw
| Polly crossing the room and struck her with a
light; found one match and il failed to light
hunted for more; tore down match-safe but
| could find no other. l said to Verrill can
| lind no light. He said he had none After a
| long time she said the money was in the small
trunk We hunted, looked in all her pockets.
Verrill said it's hard things to get no money.
After while l said 1 was going home He
struck Mrs. Kinsley and we came out bid
Verrill good evening. Verrill shut the door,
put the saw-horse against it and went home
Don't know where he went to; got up at
o'clock. % HfF
To Mr.. BicknelPs questions he says when
Verrill struck Polly he carried a chair out of
the room; don't know with what he struck her.
Mrs, Kinsley spoke loud the first time; after
she did not. She said the money was in lit
tie trunk in the little room. She appeared
very low ut that time. l had a small sized
jack-knife in my pocket. Did not use it.
Verrill said nothing about using it before we
went in. Verrill was in his shirt sleeves. At
ter entering the house saw Ratchet ON an
end of the lounge, and the coats on the other !;
did not see Verrill use the Ratchet, but saw
him carry it into Mrs. Kinsley's room. Did
not see him use any knife. We went into
little room but did not go through it. i was
hunting for money when Verrill struck Pol
~. know that the chair used had a back
Don't know where he hit her. struck her
about five minutes after Verrill did on seeing
her passing. Verrill was in the bedroom three
minutes the last time. Did not sec what he
was doing. l knew that Emily 1.-THE daughter
OF Mrs. Kinsley) was at Lewiston at that time
l weighed one hundred andi twenty-fOur the
last time was weighed. Sunday after the
murder an officer came to examine me. I re-
member of some one going to examine my
clothes. The first time L saw any blood was
nd on fhot ma han,