New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1867-07-04

THE MEMBERS BLECr PROM KENTUCKY. -,
The members from Kentucky having presented lheIh-
Mr.. scHKNdK tRcP ohic rising TO question on Of
privilege objected to the oaIh being administered 70 D.
ID. Young and presented protest from sannel Men,
formerly member Of the House, taking the gIoahu sJ
orally vi the dsoyaty Of Mr.. Young The protest nc
said, accompanied by another protest from te e
Of the WITH Congressional District OF Kentnchy Sqs
sRed t Sy d s read ng and ' moved that
Young be not now sworn member OF the House, nat
that his credentials together with such papers, pc IL
ferred TO the Committee ON Elections -,
Mr.. LOGAN QIepl offered the following az an auiehu-
'Whaeos there is good TO believe that in the
election recently held in the 81 ate OF kCntucky Tor mem
bGrs OF the XIdh Congress the legal ana Ioyal yoIe
the districts OF said state have been OFeiaWed
shois AZ he po nTH nv those who have sypatzed with
or actually participated IN the lao heDfon ai d
such elections were carried by te 'Otes oi sueh usoJ
Wrcas Il Is alleged that several Of .he Representa-
Rtsolred That the credentials OF all members elect ron
the State of Kentucky shall be referred to the Conne
ON Elections report at early day rs practcaDle ana
mat pending the report said Committee none OF said
members shall be allowed TO take the oath OF Office and
Here a message was received from the Senate announc.
ing TIE aRpCf%ept OF ON NE p S t of t6c House.
walt upon the President and inform nun that DOM
ON motion Of Mr. FARNswORTH Rep, mr. such com
mttee was ordered the part Of the House, and Mesas
Farnsworth Spaldng. and Wood were appoihteu. -.
The question Of the Kentucky members was then again
taken up and the Clerk proceeded with the reading Vi
Mr.. BROOKS Dem, N " asked Mr.. schenck to state
that the aiavits that were being read were pate
and that the afidavts taken without any nolce
whatever being given Ia the sitting member. .,
Mr.. sCKENCK admitted that they were e1 parte am
To- proceed mon He did not propose that the House
should declare that those were not entitled 70 SEATS
mittce ON Elecilons-that his motion.
The following the names OF the Representatives.
'r the III Hon l s. Hfimbe the Hon. John Brown the
Hon j. r. Knott, the Hon. A, /. Grover the Hon mos
L. Jones, the Hon. James b. Beck, the Hon George ~
Adams, the Hon John Young. H. u,
order rcmndcd the Sneaker that when he Edrdgel
undertook 10 make the same pot against Mr STOKES on
Tennessee at the close OF the XNXlAth Congress Tue
Speaker ruled that the proceedings eoud not DC inter-
ruped for any such purpose lie insisted on the same
The SPEAKER corrected Mt Eldridge, and said that
on that occasion he had ruled IN accordance WIN uniform
usage that Il the House 10 determine what action
IL should take when member presented mlnse h 10 ge
sworn, and when objection ~ made 70 DIS taxing VIZ oalh
from wisconsin had offered resolution that Mr.. Stokes
should not he sworn ill., IL would certainly nave Oeeh III
order and IL would have been Tor the HOUSE,
Mr. ELDRIDGE remarked that he had not risen on that
occasion to offer resolution, but 70 make Question Oh
and that the Chair had ruled that the proceedings
could not be interrupted 49,. ,,..,,, .,.
the ruling had always been the III the House saw
could refer the credentials Of member 10 the ovm
mee on Elections previous 10 his being sworn or after
his being The speaker subsequently, had extracts 9'
read from The Congressional Gote to she" hat ms lint
the occasion referred 10 the same as ms present
ruling. a. A., r,o,.o so,oo
Statements i'm reference the public character OF MT
Knott from the lid Congressional District Of Kentucky
and ad that during the war her ire h a 70 the Govern
men voting speaking and acting III support OF all the
Mt LOGAN addressed the House in support of the
amendment He had offered IT, not for the purpose OF
estahlishng a precedent in the House. He desired TO
preserve the House from contamination Inc disloyai
portion Of the people Of Kentucky land they were legion
had had in the Rebel Congress at Rich
nond. After the suppression o. the Rebellion the Ken
lucky Rebels returned 10 that state and the law which
dsfranehl . 'ha repealed, and then they under
took Transfer their approximation from inc nal, nm
Richmond contaminated by treason TO the halls OF TINS
Congress. which Ought 10 be saneuhed ny loyaity IL
hsto lcal fact that at the late election ~ KENTUCKY
elected Governor who had been traitor ana
a correction Mr. Logan corrected himself
and said he was little too fast. Al all events
with a man who was. the eyes Of the world, con
demned traitor. II Kentucky could send, metnDers
her protested against their being in, why should
South Carolina do the same thing under the ruling
and ADVICE Of the head Of the Government He was not
willing 10 sit here and allow any man 10 take the oath
wheI he knew that that members constituents were dis,
they could avoid H. This his theory Of getting at the
question. Kentucky had shown herself disioyal during
aud the Rebellion He therefore insisted that those
there from Kentucky must go before the Com,
mittse On Elections and let their loyalty De ,estSd; ,
dSloya they had an immense amount OF lmpu-
dencr In presenting themselves whenever delegation
cam, from n state whose loyalty was questionable. lie
wa IN favor Of having the whole dele CATION examined adj
mt g such loyal and sending back such as were
Mr. BINGHAM rep. Ohio made the question OF
order that Mr. L9gans amendment Was no. W. oracr
OF tie member named, but Mr. Logans amendment went
generally light OF the state TO representation at ALL
as illustrated by the speech he had Just made -
Mr. LOGAN said that his resolution was misunderstood
S SSted TIA, The represeniatives should be loyal
Mr. BINGHAM denied that he misunderstood It, and
insisted that the entitled 10 representation on
the members elect presenting their certificates under the
great seal unless specific objection De made against
member i'm which case the matter should be referred
OycrTulcd the pOlnt Of order, Hfst, De
IL not made in time, ana second because Oh
The Irecedent set by House, in referring the creden
tias the Tennessee members last congress 10 the
Committee ON Elections - 4. -,
Mr. sCHENCK modified his motion 80 as to read;
"ReSlred That John d. Young claiming to be one OF the
members elect the state OF Kentucky be not per
me 10 be sworn as such member but that ms creaen
tias together with the protest OF Samuel Mckee ana
other citizens Of said state, and the accompany ing am
dav be referred TO the Committee on Elections ana that
sd Committee be instructed to investigate ana report on
the ch,rges and facts OF the case and whether sad
is entitled loyal citizen TO seat IN tns house, anu
that TIE Committee have power TO take testimony ana 10
send br persons aud papers"
Mr. BROOKS spoke against the resonton' ne ssa we
are dep In the midst OF revolution more potent than
that which have passed through during the eiyl war;
IL the OF the gentleman from Illinois hr Logan
are be adopted the House because he has here pro
claimed principles which are not only IN violation o. an
existing laws but In utter violation OF the constitution OF
the United States deprecae such speeches as depTe
cate the Introduction Of such Kentnsky oy the OoaS
here Keptue has gone out 81 tine hen
loyal the Union Kentucky has been represented here
during all the war by members OF various parties Ana ~
when she sends members all OF one party that
an attempt made 10 disranchise her and drive all her
Delegations from the House This Is revolution, ana
tell tn, gentleman from Illinois that there IL feeling
among the people OF the North which Will not submit TO
such aresoluon No lighting Will be done IN the tented
field 10 transfer OF contest from the baotbox 10 the
bayone but the floor OF the House the Democracy
OF the North will appear and join with the Democracy
OF the south and OF the West and will be heard when
this Cngress shall be longer rump parliament unless
il made by the party of the gentleman from Illinois
The Suite OF Kentucky has record OF loyalty In arms
and onthe floor OF the House She was represented here
during the whole OF the II were to accept tho
charges OF dlsloyalty made against gentlemen from
various parts OF the Union, J. as an old wing In 1860
would 10 ready charge the gentleman from Illinois
Uogan then Democrat that he was disloyal, utterly
dOy alto the principles OF the Government OF the couh