North Iowa times. [volume] (McGregor, Iowa) 1867-current, 1867-11-27

Lee and other paroled officers, on tn
ground that their parole, so long as the,
obeyed the laws of the United States
protected them from arrest; and tn,
president at that time, occupied th,
ground, viz: that they should be tried
and punished. He wanted to know
when the time would come that they shoe
be punished. l told him not so long a.
they obcyed the laws and complied with
the stipulation. That was tho ground ]
took.
Question-"Did you not also insist thai
that applied as well to tho common sol
diers p
/ Answer" OF course il applied to every
one who took the parole, but that matter
some of the leaders he claimed that in the
surrender Of their armies and arms they
had done what they could not have been
compelled to do, as portion Of them
could have escaped, but they surrendered
in consideration of the fact that they were
to be exempt from trial. As long rs they
confcrmed to the obligations they had t.
ken they were entitled to that"
In reply to question, Graat said !:
81 will state hero that I am aot qsite
certain whether l an being tried, Or whs
is being tried, BY the question asked"
When asked il he included Davis ia HE
ideas Of leuiency to rebel leaders, he said !,
"No Davis was not paroled, nor did 10
surrender; he was captured" Tho Psssi-
dent insisted that Gen. Lee should be ari-
ed. Grant dissented. He says:
insisted that Gen. Leo woald not
have surrendered his army and given up
all its arms If he supposed that on sarren-
der he was going to be tried for treason
and hanged. thought We rot . good
equivalent for the lives of feW leaders in
getting all their arms and themselves an
der control, and bound By their caths to
obey the laws. That was the oo0sidera-
ton which insisted We had received"
The President and Grant differed, and
it was asked If the President so;ucided
with him. To this Grant says
ono, sir /; not then. He afterwards
agreed with mo on that subject. l never
claimed that the parole gave these prison.
ers any political rights. thought that
was matter entirely with congress, over
which had no control that simply as
general-in-chief, commanding tho army, l
had right to st;pulate for tho surrender
on terms which protected their lives. That
is all claimed. The parole gave this pro-
lection and exemption lroo puuishment
for all offences not in violation Of the rights
Of civilized warfare, so long rs their pa
role was kept"
johnson was anxious to punish the
leaders. Grant said ~ could not see any
reason why tho fact Of volunteer rising
to tho rank of general should exclude
him any more than any other grade; and
with reference to the $4,000 clause l
thought mans success in the world was
no reason for his being cxcladed from am
nesty."
After answering, repeatedly, that he was
in favor Of any sort Of civil government
down South which would give quiet, till
Congress met, he says:
~ have always been attentive to my
own duties, and tried not to interfere with
other peoples. was always ready to
originate matters pertaining to the army,
but never was willing 10 originate mat
tiers pertaining to the civil government of
the United States. When was asked my
opinion about what had been done was
willing to give it. originated no plan or
suggested no plan for civil government.
only gave my views on measures after
they had been originated. simply ex-
pressed an anxiety that something should
be done to give some sort of control down
there. There were no governments there.
When the war was over l wanted to see
some governments established, and want
ed to see it done quickly. / did Tot pre-
tend to say how it should be done, or in
what form. confined my questions en-
tirely to war and peace"
Being asked if he made any suggestions,
no said:
"No sir, will state here that before
Mr.. Lincoln's assassination the question
about issuing a proclamation of some sort
and establishing some sort of civil govern
ment there was up, and what was done
then was continued after Mr.. Johson came
into officc.'
Question:" Did you give your opinion
on that after it was done F"
Answer was present, think, twice
during Mr.. Lincclf's administration when
a proclamation that had been prepared
was read. After his assassination it was
continued right along, and l was there
with Mr.. Johnson"
The balance Of Grants testimony will
be epitomized for next week. Our space
is up, and our boys want to go to press
Suffice it that Grant has shown a bold
front to the Committee that Gen. I" De-
tectiye" Baker has told a story SO unbe-
lievable that his testimony is worth more
to the President than it is to his enemies.
Where will the Grant supporters 60 now :
~.Buy q Broom :"
The Northwestern Broom Company,
recently established at Prairie du Chen, is
in working order, and is turning out the
best work we ever saw. A pair of these
indispensable articles are received at this
Office. One is a Parlor ornament most ele-
gantly and substantially got up. We
showed this to several ladies and they
went into extacies. An influential person
age at our house appropriated it, however,
and il is no longer on public exhibition
The Office broom is also most superior
one, and we especially.request dealers to
call and see it. The truth is it looks too
good to be used, too well got up to mingle
with dirt, but oh Jehosaphat, how it min
giles ! s4s.
Dealers from here to st. Paul should
send orders to the N. W. Broomery.
Weather, &c. Ii EU
The weather still continues remarkably