New-York tribune., 1867-09-04

thought about time that they should know some
clearly stated II has been the pocy the State from
the earliest period to keep the canal revenues and ab
specially for the canals. the law requires that
the people shall be repaid with interest =, Hence
Committee have provided first for payng the outstanding
debt secondly for returning to the people moneys az
the State uuincumbered for the action OF the people
through the Legislature. Now, to the Canal Corn
mttee, he had doubt that they acted in good fsth
but he wished the Convention and judge be
tween these two reports as to which is false and de
ccptiye He believed that the adoption OF the report
Of the Canal Committee would be disgrace 10
the Convention, ana disgrace TO, the state
repudiate their solemn obligations and pledges to the
people This was not project for completing the canals
were called on to commence new work. that must be
% sI no %ser S aE 70
the waIl benches, and to furnish water, to enlarge
thereto. Now the aGueduets are The most exPen,
sve works on the canals What are the approaches
water way between them. This is not all. The locks
aqueduct and bridges to he made large enough for
feet wide and 200 feet long to navigate its entire
length 1t needs very prophetic vision to see that Il
these cannot navigate the water way OF the canal
ad s ne Sur state ocers viii construe
to do part Of it into grant TO 90 more; A. asa aa
expense no man estimate. II you commences work
at five millions which will cost iity millions lt IS weii
the rest to se appropriated and expended Every OF
experience knows this The Canal Committee limit the
he swept away like chat by the legislature The Canal
men VIII come here with cries about the glory OF the
state work IN their mouths and with Plea that the
money already expended win be thrown away unless
Sa % sn them S Se
by the Canal Committee is far below the estimate OF the
il always double the estimate in such matters, This
mention Of ssoOo,oco was but sngarcoated pill
amounts The State Engineer estimates that the cost for
water will be 81 100000 the Committee put at 100000
that so@s change Win be Necessary in the Waterway
and one tesfes that it wbe to make
by these large locks: Nothing is said of all
snothing Of their great cost cost os;,,oa Pass on
dspdl o he cana 70 The propose
principle pTt 'Es Of the old canal debt for Enlargement Now
the article reported by The Canal Committee violates
ere q the fnnd deS that they be
paid next TO that Of the old debt Of 1916 And they have
hess the extinction Of the enlargement debt Upon
what plea do they. violate their pledged faith
the people on which the credit OF the State based The
only question now before us s win we keep our agree
sembled dares violate its agreements man will have
any confidence in its securities There is only one way
is to live up to its faith with the scrupulousne
Never before-neyer in the history, OF legiss;
by iS1O distinguished men, in favor OF repndatiOn.
lis Nir Churchs object had been to show that the pro:
Improvement is desirable there way to do II and TO
preserve our He should prefer the proposition of
est one II proposes to borrow the money and pay It
after other debts paid This be done. taxation
the people may be preserved The revenues
Sy S hs ss hV TSe ware by the
Southern from the West, forced much traffic
through our canals That cannot a'eyoe r. relied lie on Tor
dow 10 1870 they will get almost four millions for their
hast he
Of the principal falling due He ds M iSr no, say i %ss bn he
probable II would be unsafe TO rely
upon 1t, and TO run the risk OF bringing the
some experience in these matters. He had heard
before The gl9ss Of the Ere Canal and he sSry OF the
Ien money yS %as Wanted But it bad nothing to do with the
question before them He would have all the debt paid
lie wond have the canals free from tolls and
He would open them great free highway for all traf
nc. He was opposed to crippng them with heavydebs
these debts in few years in eight years If the Canal
Committee are Soest so n m years ssmo aSsof9ns fe
tolls that are greater hinderance 70 t commerce ofthe
state than narrow locks This is the true policy OF the
free and heavy tolls Upon this issue he willing TO
go before the people Of the state and OF the entire
f%sv foot that yoS widen oe Se locks You iii two
feet to the obstruction Of commerce by your tolls
tolls had been higher we should have had more tolls
BY what rule does he prove thisi The conPetitIon OF
Again in his Judgment the proposed enlargement of the
canals was not necessary this time might be
the canals had not been reached by 10 speak within
bounds than onehat There are various ways OF
ascertanng the truth OF this statement Go TO the reports
OF the state ocers-n every OF the reports OF the
Engineers they indorse his statement present
State Engineer concludes that f1udgng from the past
reached until 1892 True he may advocate the expeDd
e OF ocsr eT %osd object St TO T Hut Engineer
had stated TO him that would be extremely unwse TO
put the proposed enlargement IN the Constitution IN ms
testimony before the Canal Committee, he says that II
t"S would i' last for fifteen or twenty years,
He was asked whether he had known any instance
10 which the double locks failed 10 give sufficient capa
city He answered directly that he had not This posi-
tion he maintains under all ana the
figures and statistics bear him out The number OF boats
who send the products OF the forest, lumber ana coal
through the canals, send them In the summer months
locks OF the canals In such quantity as had been claimed
such how wiling would have been heard from the docks
Of Buffalo the docks OF NewYork would have walked
all the people 10 come 10 the rescue and spend more
money In 1862 the canals carried more than In his udg
men they would carry for many years TO come ana YET
there complaint made at that time OF their beng
overcrowded. 80,
Mr.. ALvORD spoke in defense of the report Of the
competing the trade Of the West In opposition 10
the Erie Canal and urged the Importance OF enlargng
the channel Of water communication Before ne nad
and the Convention adjourned 10 O'CLOCK 'o'nofro"
morning.
The hour of having arrived, the Convention took
The following is the record Of absentees from this morn
iDgs session:
BsIi.Ii. Bsh.T Fcistf.. Fsi,Tf d% f%Sarron ssssi
brook j. Irani Manioe Ssymou,
Brown X A g,rrv Merritt Sheldon
Collahau hand Paige, Strong,
CSI.so GS,S. IontIs,On Ion1s, RosSptson Van coit
6.rdEg o,r.I. kss.'"' har HSy Foy. aiethdm
Abseu, w. Excused
vnrrl hah haan A.