The New York herald., 1867-04-01

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element would then be qualified TO vote for members Of
Parliament Now II yen add these 237 900 persons who
a,e ed TO The poor and VINO pay neir rates 70 @ sss
there would be $4,000 persons fulfilling the required
conditions-hat TO almost exactly two-thlrds of
the whole OF the householders in the boroughs OF Eng
land and WaleA There would still remain
4S6, 900 who would not be qualified under
these circumstances, because they do not pay
rates persopaliy great deduction must be made
from those 5000 on account Of persons, who might
clam to pay the rates, but great amount Of those
ass 900 persons would still remain without the oppor-
unity OF being rated to the poor, because there
certain acts of Parliament some OF general and
OF local character by which the landlord compounds
for the rates OF his tenants, who in consequence,
called compound householders, and most of these
under the operation OF the act with the details Of which
every gentleman in the House is famiLar--the Small
Tenements act There are hfty yeight boroughs which
entirely under the operation Of that act and
ninety borougbs in which certain parishes only
are under the operations OF the act In considering the
settlement of the franchise for boroughs and poss
biity OF attempting TO establish It, not the huctuat-
ing principle or value, which is only question OF
gree which may vary and which might be called on to
Grange from year 10 year. u impossible not to take into
the peculiar position OF the compound
This bill would admit 2S7 600 who live in houses
undor fl0 and pay rates. leaving unenfranchised
4Se 600 househoders not paying their own rates. But
every FACILITY would be given To compound h0usehodes
to take upon themselves tho payment Of their own
rates and to Obtain consequence the right OF voting
After an elaborate argument UPON the f5 franchise,
which he strongly condemned characterizing il as q
Serbonan bog aud asserting that its logical result in
many places would be manhood suffrage Mr. Dsraeli
announced that the bill would confer the franchise
payers OF fl (no including licenses any
knd and housoholders lin towns only) paying FL direct
would be allowed TO the franchise In
spet of both sufirages II would also contain educa
on franchise and would give the franchise TO the holders
Of savings bank deposits aud funded property to the
amount OF ESQ. The direct tax franchise would add
number greatly exceeding 200 900 Though this
only esmael the education franchise, 35 900; the
funded property franchise 2 000 and the savings bank
franchise. As OO0 in all more than 600 600 would be
added to the borough constituency In the counties the
franchise would be fixed els rating which would add
III The hiring the total
add ions TO the county constituencies to some $50 00O
hope that the House VIII canddIy consider this meas
palms, thought, and have not shrunk from what was
more important, perhaps in endeavorng to bring IL be-
circumstances attending the framing Of this measure
which has now been brought before the House
OF Commons under very great difficulties and
great sacrifices do not wish to disguise that
have felt great chagrn and great modification III con-
meet on with what has taken place-thear, hear)but
believe have done my duiy-icneersl-and Under the
circumstances do not think could done other
than have (Hear.i In attempting TO bring the ques
10 this point we have lost those whose absence from
our councils more than regret we have had to APP
peal TO highspnted party to make what doubt to
some to a certain extent sacrifice of principle,
much sacrifice Of sentiment and much sacrifice Of in.
terest (Hear) But we have not appealed in vain
thearl-because the members Of that party ami.
of duty and convictou they felt that the time had
arrived when this question must be dealt with and
settled extensively and completely hope, ther fore,
tn House OF Commons will give this measure fair and
candid consideration. We believe 1t is which,
If adopted spirit will settle its long differences;
thar IL qualified to tho requirements Of the
country am told certain that there objections
against H. but beg remind the House OF tho distpc
on which We draw between popular privileges and de-
mocTtc rights. am told that this measure there
checks and counterpoises and that in this
country the existence OF classes II there checks
tu.ion OF which bcast that is constitution OF
checks and c0unterpoises ear, hear II the measure
bears reference To existing classes in this country
why should we conceal IRON ourselves, omit from
discussions, the fact that this copLtry country of
classes, and country Of c!asses IL will ever remainf
(Hear hear) What desire do Is 10 give cvery one
worthy OF fair share in the government OF the
country by means OF the elective franchise; but at the
samo time. We have been eq ally anxious 70 MAINTAIN
the Character or tho HoHse to make propositions In har
m0ny with the circumstances the country prevent
preponderance Of any class and to give representa-
tion 10 the nation loud cheersl Tho right hon.
orabie gentleman concluded by moving for leave bring
in tho bill
words. M. speaker, which may fall from mo on this
occasion IL will be tar possible from my intention
Impugn question ,he assertion OF tho right
bic gentleman the Cancoor Of the Exchcquer that he
has been acting under difficulties and that he believes
he has dooe his duty He hes been acting under din-
hs says no has done his duty Hear, hear Neither is
Il my intention In anything that may fall from me 10
preadge the question Of what colrse may seem right
In any member Of this House to take what course
myself may be compelled take in reference to the
measure Of the righ. honorabc gentleman lHcar hear
is In hands and he has promised that will be in
hands 10 morrow morning-it impossible 70 arrive
any con- conousSn' uss or 70 enter fully INTO inc
gravity Of the circumstances demand But sr, having
said that must frankly state that the impression made
on my mind BY the statement Of the right honorable
gentleman s many respects perplsxed one, and Is
not on the whole picasipg ona We commenced the
the resotions q the night honorable gentleman wsrs
produced waived every question and every dcuty,
except only the desire We entertained that definite
meaning should be attached to those resolutions When
the right honorable gentleman, accedng very fairly 10
the general desre expressed House. the
the House with regard to the principle OF that bill 1t
never in print; but the statement which had the
honor to make and which know expressed the general
from the description gwen Of il BY the right
honorable gentleman, ! hoped when we saw IL
might be points, and perhaps m.ny and serious pouss
which should be raised the BILL yet those points
might fairly be considered In committee Hear, hear
But though this is the fourth day OF progress or
not progress proceedings with reference the
Reform question, am afraid, to use homely phrase
still deeper into the wood. "a laugh) will now
deavor the Impression which, In one or two re.
spccts the bill which the right honorable gentleman
proposes 70 introduce makes ON my mind, far a.
understand It, and with due regard to the correction
which tomorrow morning will supply. On ordinary
the organ OF the Government and tho leader OF the
House, the course would bc 10 say little but on the
present occasion the circumstances are peculiar Many
Of the proportions OF the bill have obtained so
remarkable publicity that II has been our
duty 70 apply ourselves to consideration OF
KNOWLEDGE
obtained beforehand OF the principles OF the bill we
have acquired more complete Wow Of the matter
than We could have had II we had been depending
simply the statement Of the Minister But three days
ago meeting Of the more select spirits held in
Downing street. portion Of the information impaired
TO that meeting found is way even TO us the nero mob
OF the House Of Commons CsOh, oh !" and cheeR)
Az my observa Ii questioned BY several honorable
members must add 70 Il this remark-that, - far as
know, after experience Of thirty -four years, 10 s
practice entirely novel for Minister OF the crown to
gather In bis house those members Of Parliament who
be thinks agree with him. and state TO them, days In
advance Of the House OF Commons, the particulars OF
great measure which Il s his intention 70 submit 10
Parliament (Hear, hear.) had not intended 70 make
that remark-tironcal cries Of "Hear, hsarjbu am
justified by the circumstances Of the case This II an
innovation, and II 10 an innovation which s not an i'm
provemeuI hope. therefore, that there Will be much
confederation before Il Is repeated. Hear, hear.
Mr.. Gladstone showed, too what facilities would be
given for the manuacure Of votes by electoneering
agsnts He also expressed his personal conviction
that u would BE- . great advantage II the reduc-
tion Of the franchise downwards could be made TO
stop with the personal payment Of ratsa The three
safeguards Of the Dill we're residence rating and dual
voting, and he examined those In detail showing that
rating would rreQularly numbers