Western Reserve chronicle. [volume] (Warren, Ohio) 1855-1921, 1867-04-24

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F-ARM1xeTox. April 10. 1867.
Mr.. ED1ToR Like the Ghost of Banguo.'
(t seems) my friend Carl" won't down. In
your last issue be again sends forth his insin-
nations and anathemas against secret orders
l4generaIly. and Good Templars in PARTICULAR
Most of this. ike his former article. Is merely
aceusatory, and II would be folly in me to bring
accusation against accusation, railing against
railing. and neither profitable or pleasant so to
do. II is evident. however, Gudging from the
symptoms) his physical or mental condition is
not much improved since our last writing, and
if any were in doubt as to the diagnosis of his
ailments suggested then. l think his second let
ter will dispel their doubts. L question if he
has sven read the scripture to which / called
his attention. he seems assured that mo good
can come out Of Nazareth" ana again sticks at
Us me 1aes nd an Tecorded lbs tesIimony asSinst
them in John Is -. which reads. Jesus ans
Wered him, I spAke openly to the world; l ever
taught in the synagogue and In the temple
whittier the Jews always resort and IN secret
have / said nothing. A short time before this
trial. Christ sent two Of his disciples into the
city and told them TO follow g man carvings
niteher Of water, and ask him for the use Of his
Tuest chamber in which he and his disciples
might eat the passover they met there in Sc
cref, and Christ talked 20 them. He oftimes met
Cedron :" he also taught them to be secret about
many things. In doing aims, that their aims
may be in secret" de-; in praying ENTER into
thy closet 81 Ss f Faab sns sshE 51os nsst say ! my q HOT
many Of those he healed did he charge to tell
no mon." yet he says tothe High Priest N secret
haze sad nothsne:- NOV what weEs the CIR
was arraigned before the high Priest who asked
him S'of bis disciples, and Of bis doctrine" as
anxious 10 find something by which to condemn
him. as Carl" is the Templars. He answered
as quoted above. Is much as to say, my doctrines
are public I have no secret doctrines. The
High Priest knew what his public doctrines
were; heknew, Eiso. that Christ had been In the
habit ofmeeting his disciples privately like our
fiend) and Supposed, of necessity. there must
be some deViltry behind the curtain. Now 1
assert without fear of contradiction. that nc ifair
interpretation Of the passage n question, can
make its author condemn Secret SOCIETIES in sny
sense; and CTS can say with the same truth
fitness. Sin seofA have we said nothing, % for as
in theicsse cited our doctrines are public, and
we inczicate no secret doctrines. To assert that
this passage is designed to condemn secret soei.
would be to say because Christ rode an ass's colt
into jerusalem, therefore every man lwho don't
go on foot should ride an ASS colt.
Gar" says there is a principle lying at the
foundation Of your cherished institution. danger
Gus in its tendencies. and hurtfdl in its conse-
Quences." In the language of the immortal
Carl" 1 answer d statement without proof is a
dogma and this is a specimen
Again he says. / believe in freedom Of
thought and 1 shall if l choose. take the liberty
TO enjoy my opinion no matter how much you
may be disposed to spit your venom" Mar
able dictul" how dare he do it'll Carl Winces
wofully under,my quotation Of a friends remark
about his becoming q charter member, or join
ing now If some one would pay his initiation
fee. Solomon says answer the fool according
TO his folly. Often when our Western prairies
get on fire, men set back fires. or fight fire
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in ethics: In Carts first article latter
Of his rejoicing at progress in christi
anity,D he says Of theI. o. g. rs, the existence
Of such an order IN our town speaks IN unmis-
tones that christianity Is at allow ebb,"
stripped of its yerbality, means that the
anuehristian- Again. neither christi
snity, temperance, nor morality. are the incen-
tives to join thee secret orders; they are in
ducements held out it Is true, but they are only
light houses !" again, Il fear if this order
exists long that ~intemperance will sweep Us as
with the bosom OF destruction NOW Mr.. Be
som of destruction Carr, . what would you think
of a man who without cause or provocation)
attacked his neighbsrs-member of his own
and those of other ehurches-WhO were
in a quiet way 10 advance the cause
of temperance, charging them with being anti
in their efforts. with being a class of
holding out false light house," &c,
and all from pure prejudice, not knowing any
thing against them or uneir order, or even at
tempting 10 prove his assertions. Though I
speak with tongues of men and angels and have
not charity, ! an as sounding brass, or a tink-
ling eymble-" Charity mink no eyil."-
Can "ribaldry' do such a man Injustice? He
seems to think honor or worldly possessions"
would not induce iii to join q society like ours
which loves darkness rather than light" does
Carl write over an assumed name because he
Loves darkness rather than light !" Physician
heal thyselE" Would not It be more honorable 4
to Join the order and learn its virtues Tor Vices)
you may talk advisedly hereafter, rather
than make such ungentlemanly and unchrIstian
charges as quoted above. without reason or
IF friend Carl would be honorable in his ex-
tracts from others sayings his talk about an op-
pOnents honor would be more consistent. In
quoting from Johnl6i 20. he quotes the first and
without Indication. which is important to a fair
understanding Of the passage He also asserts
I say churches are secret societies." I
said "for what church has not its secret meet
Again he says Occasional wonders
whether the tens of thousands" &C.. have ali
been mistaken" / said Is il possible that the
immortal Carl has authority Tor saying that the
tens of thousandsD De-. ARE al deceipcrs hold
eat dLse h0hss," &c. / can account for his
garbling scripture on the ground of his nom
familiarity With it; but cannot account for mu-
and MISREPRESENTATION like the above,
on any principles OF honor or fair dealing
Again he says there are churches In our land
which viii no more admit q member Of a secret
order into their fellowship than they would toe
whom you pretend to reclaim, so
much the worse" for the churches; / have heard
If angels" being rentertsiRed unsWares." Not
lQlrIy TedrH kgO LQeI6 were CHURCHES VINO HOnld I
lot fellowship anIislaYery agitators; who sus-
not only members but ministers, for
reaching antSlavery. have In my possession
be Tract from which Carl quotes. II he will
the words -antislaTery agitators" for
he words these Orders." leave out dates, and
cad his extract he will have a fac simiLeo of pab-
ic sentiment on the antislayery question not
hirty years since; but now how changed, and
that does ii all prove; simply that churches,
ynods. conferences and great and good men
aay be mistaken. Carl says Railroads and fire
are a necessity in our age Of progress" (wh0
Ienies IL your societies are not. These do
nere good than harm, (has any one doubted IN !
Ihile your societies do more harm than good"
how childish" In the language Of the illus
r1ous Carl. "a statement without proof Is a doc {
IA. and thisis q specimen" In my last Letter 5
aid each well regulated family a a seeref go
~ On 4 small scate, o. should be- and what J
amly has not Us secrets, and even rooms inf I
Fhleh no outsider ventures without permiSsion /,
II BY invitation. Mr.. Carl in reply saws "Wers
on living IN New 1ork CITY, audit were known I
our society is, a delegate from the metronoii- !
an police would be among your FIRST callers J
his may be so. not having been troubled in this
manner while staying IN the City. 1 cannot {
ouch for its truth; but believing my friend :
has too much "selfrespect" 10 make such a j
tatement without knowing 1t 10 be true. 1 am
Tilling to taRe his experience as to whom the
'Oliee call upon, without further evidence.
Now Mr.. Editor 1 hope yORr patience Is not
and believe you will pardon this long
nd desuitOry communication when L tell Won .
his Is my last, unless my friend Carl presents
Omething more worthy of notice than is con-
aimed IN either Of ms communications already
If 1 had time to So IRE and eniovea
bis kind of wrangling. as we'll as some otbers {
eem to, in the language Of Macbeth / would
ay to Carl. lay on. Maeduf, and id be him
rho first cries hold, enough" but 1 look upon !
as improbable and unworthy the tine of per
Ons having anything else to do; and especially
0 l object to continuing a discussion with a
ian so INSCRIPTIONS in his extracts, and quota
Ons, for since writing the above. 1 find that
arl has not only copied in some OF his ideas
the tract heretofore mentioned, but gar
led the extract he pretended 70 quote. 1 sup
Ose It is proper TO state these facts here, for IN 4
le language of Carl. "Turtullian" says truth
nothing but cOncealment;' yet If brother
zrl considers this discussion advantageous,
ld continues to spit his venom" some Of my :,
students Ito whom discussion of this ma ,
ire are more congenial.D will probably answer
IN And now my friend Carl adieu, but in the
nguage Of "Herburt let me say =
BE calm in arguing for ferceness makes T
Error a FAULT and truth discOErteous."
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