The Van Buren press., 1867-11-22

concerned. He would, however, answer
my question rs to whether the late cleo.
tons would have any affect upon that
matter. He thought they would. "You
see, said he " these weak .kneed brothers
are taking the back track already" Well
now, what the devil has an election In
Ohio to do with the matter. II Andy
johnson is guilty, put him out; IL not,
aequt him; that's the way to do It.
They ought to have pressed the invest.
CATION right along after they had started
it. And so they would have done last
winter, il there hadn't been SO many men
in the Senate and House who wanted TO
keep on good terms with the House.
There were too many men from Ohio and
other States, who wanted their brothers
and friends appointed to Office, and knew
that Andy was bidding high for votes.
1t was one of the most shameful specta.
cles in the history Of this or any other
country, to see men selling themselves
and their constituents for office last win.
ter. You pitched into q few OF them, In
the Commercial, but you only told Q
hundredth part Of the truth. wish tho
papers would take up every devil Of 'em
and go after 'em. That thing will ruin
the country yet, if the people amt care
ful. Some of them denied having made
any effort to get these appointments, but
l know how i; was. know that Andy
was mighty particular to make his ap.
pointments to the best advantage, and hA
didn't give an Office where i. wouldn't
count. II it hadn't been for that internal
thing OF office getting, the Impeachment
would have been settled last winter, % Il
ought to have been. ! don't know
whether Johnson would have been turn.
ed out or not, but the thing would have
been determined, one way or the other.
GES GRANT.
Referring to Presidential matters, Mr..
Wade said it had looked to him for
year past as ifthe Republican party would
take Grant up for President, and run him
in with hurrah. He was sorry to see
that disposition, and believed no good
would come Of it. "Thc trouble with
Grant is, said he. "you don't know where
he stands. 1t seems very singular that
man could have lived through this terri.
BILE war without identifying himself with
any party, and that men pretending to be
Republicans should try to rush him into
the White House without asking him =
single question as to where he stands on
the great issues now before the country.
Still, have felt 1t in my bones that they
would do that very thing"
lasked MIR. Wade il he had ever con.
versed with Gen. Grant on political top.
les.
II have tried to do IT," said he, but
l never could bring him out. When I
saw the popular current appearing to run
in his favor 1 thought / would like 70
know how he stood on the great ques.
tions before us-whether he was for
johnson or Congress, or what the devil
he was for; but never could get any.
thing out Of him. As quick as I'd talk
politics he'd talk horses, and he could
talk for hours on that without getting
tired. Well, horses are very good, but
In these times man may be all right on
horses and all wrong on politics. Grant
may be all right for what ! know. but
then again he may be all wryng II he
wants to be President by my voice, and
the voice Of the men / act with, he must
not only be right, but he must prove that
he is.'' af
Inquired Of Mr.. Wade what proof hs
would require from Gen. Grant before
supporting him AS q Presidential candi-
date. Would letter indorsing the Rad.
ical policy dof
mo, it won't. We must have his word
backed by some official act showing him
to be in sympathy with US, and in favor
of the doctrines we advocate. We wont
take any mans word after what we've
gone through. Grant must come out
and show his hand az q pronounced Rc-
publican or he can't get my support /
don't know that my support amounts TO
much, but what little there is Of 1t will 90
in the right direction.
MRS LINCOLN.
During our conversation the subject OF
Mrs, Lincoln and her recent disgracefnl
conduct came up. and, remembering that
MIR. Wade was one Of committee ap.
pointed by the two Houses to nvestigato
the pecuniary condition in which Mr..
Lincoln's family was left and report bill
for their relief, asked him ifit was true,
as stated by Mrs. Lincoln, that Mr.. Lin.
coin left little or no property behind him.
mo" said he, ats id lie. We
looked into that matter very carefully.
The Illinois men wanted Us to give her
one hundred thousand dollars, and wc
agreed to do so, if it appeared that shs
really needed IT, We sent for the admin
istrator Of the estate, and he testified that
Mr.. Lincoln left $4,000 in Government
bonds, or some thing like that, besides
some little productive property In Spring.
field, lllinois-in all about one hundred
thousand dollars. We thought, then.
that twenty-five thousand dollars would
be enongh--the same as wrs paid to tho
widow OF Gen. Harrison. Mrs. Lincoln
was very we'll of, aud didn't need even