Weekly Trinity journal., 1866-02-24
The FRrrDxrs.-President Johnson tells the


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The FREEDxES.-President johnson tells the
freedmen of the South that they must emigrate
must leave the >South-go anywhere where
their presence as freemen will not be odious and
offensive to their late lords and masters. But he
does not tell them exactly where they shall 60 or
how they are to get there. At the recent meet
ing in San Francisco for the organization of a
Freedmans Aid and Union Commission, Freder-
lex Billings prominent lawyer of that city,
and a gentleman whom the Legislature has suffi-
cient confidence in to recommend as fit and wor-
thy to occupy a seat in the Cabinet, asked and
answered the question which so much vexes the
President as follows 90 What will we do with
the four millions of freedmen? Just as we would
with four millions of white men.
Make intelligence, and not property, the test of
citizenship" We give below the report of the
interview between the President and Freedmen :
The interview the and the coored dele
CATION the 7h inst cooquia my first dispatch
port in National Inteligencer filling
two columns, take the following:
After the President had desire to do all things
proper and just for the benet of the coored races they
could find no other Moses he would be their Moses lead
them from the land where they had in bondage the
land Of Freedom He said turning to Fred Douglass:
Have you lived on plantation, Douglass ,"
have, your ENcelency,' replied Douglass.
fresident-"W When you would look around and a man
who had large family hard upon poor piece or
land you thought great deal less Of him than of your
master ="
DougLdss-" No."
Fresident-"We, know such was the case with large
majority Of you in those sections Where such is the case
we know there is enmitywe know there is hate. Poor
white the other hand opposed and
master, the colored and his combined
kept him in poverty by deprvng him of fair participation
in the labor and productions of the country query
comes then whether these races situated they
were before the without preparation without time for
passion and excitement to be appeaed and without time for
the slightest improvement, whether should be turned
loose upon the other and then both thrown together at the
ballot box with this enmy existing them
the query arises, If then do a Of the
racesl think understand this question: especially this
Now where do you begin, For instance suppose
Congress should law authorizing which
all over 2 years Of without regard color shall be
lowed to vote and majority shod decide that elective
franchise should not be universal what would you dol who
would settle III Do deny that the first great principle
Of the right of people to govern themeves w you
sort to arbitrary power and the majority shall
pouglas."s.T That was aid before the war;
what may been said before the war" ''''
Daglass-" Apply what have said, Mr. President
South Carolina, for instance"
Pesii>nt-"suppose you to South Caroina-suppose
you go to Ohothat does not change the principle all
a 1t the fundamental tenet Of creed that the
Of the People, when fairly expressed the ballot box
Dougtass-"A great deal Of wrong"
Issent"t the people of the States who must, for
ed in work that will commence war Of the want
. begin the work of reparaon would it all yon
advocate could be done In the wnklng Of hut is
Of things don't pretend to be
any wiser than Providence stronger than the laws Of
ture"
Douoass-" NY own impression that very thing your
Hxceency would avoid in Southern States only be avoid
brother delegates perceive President has
taken strong ground in favor Of given policy and dsru
ing my ability To Of those impressions which
has expressed think had better end the Interview
Fresdent" think will find that far the South
is concerned If will all incucate that idea in connection
with the one yon urge that the coIore people can Ne ana
in civilization to better advantage elsewhere than
crowded together in Southern States II would be better for
them"
D4e1ss-" i.u, cannot get away from the plantations
TreSent If the master controls in labor would he
not control the votel"
Dougass- Let the negro understand that he has
organic right 10 vote and he will raise up party in the Sou
thern States among the poor, who will rally with him in
conflict that speak Of between wealthy STAKEHOLDER and
Frcdent-' You touch right point there. There is
conflict and hence suggest emigration II the negro can't
employment in the South he has 1t in his power to 60
where he get it,"
In parting President said they both desirous Of
accomplishing the ends but proposed to do so by fol-
lowing different roads.
In n reply to the expressed opinions of the Pres
ident, on the day following, the black men say
"The first point to which especially bound
exception your attempt to found policy opposed to our
enfrancheneut upon the alleged hostility Of the former
slaves towards the poor white people the South. We ad
existence of this hostility and hold it entirely
cprocaed you obviously commit by drawing
your argument Of slavery, and making base
for policy adapted to state of freedom The whites
tools of the slave masters in depressing the
slaves and you but admit that the Of this ha
tired removed by the abolition of slavery In the
name Heaven reverenty ask how you. in view of
the proposed desire promote the welfare Of the black
deprive him all Of defence and clothe him whom
regard as his enemy In panoply Of political powerl On
subject of colonization that pleased to touch
very much could be said but that greater
the colored than the idea that the
negroes might be tolerated in degrading slavery
and that they driven into exile for other
than having become free
HoLLowAY's PILLS AND OISTMEYT-HEALTH AND
HAPPINESS few people ever consider the
close alliance existing between these two great
boons of life men, remarkable for their tact and
LII. u thn n1ti Of hnici