The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1866-05-17

tempt to Introduce these into England, believe
the effect would bo decidedly disastrous. !"
Mr.. D'IsRAELI denied that the Tories were
in favor of going to war with the United
States during the great American war; and |
accused the British Ministry of having had
especially warlike purposes in that conneo-
ton. He said of GLApsToNE's American
proclivities
'Sir, I venture to put before the House tonight
the principles upon which parliamentary reform,
lift is to proceed, ought to proceed viz: On Eng
lish, and not on American principles. 1t ought to
proceed on this ground, that wo the House of
Commons, and not the House of the peoplc-th that
we represent great political order in tho State,
and not all indscriminate multitude; and that in
settling what share the working classes arc to
have in tho State-whch do not begr rpdge them
we ought to act in the spirit Of tho Constitution
and form that estimate in its spirit Tho honora-
bic member from Birmingham candidly takes the
opposite view: but the right honorable gentle
man, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, goes down
to Liverpool-the leader Of this House-the coun-
cillor of the Government-and what does he do2
Why, he PROCESSES American principles in the
widest sense. Mol would make no statement in
this House that I am Lot prepared to substanti-
ate. I have expressed pretty clearly my views of
the English Constitution, and confidently assert
that they are correct. I say the right honorable
| gentleman, following the example, as he always
| does, of the member for Birmingham, went on
tour OF agitation, and, say expounded his policy
founded on American and not on English princi-
Pies, and am here prepared to prove it."
And We think it must be admitted that he
did prove it, for what he said was in a large
sense true.
Mr.. GLADSTONE, in his reply, coming to
this point, said:
81 grapple now with the argument of nv right
| honorable friend, and all the dismal pictures ho
draws about tho destruction of the British Con-
| stitution It is not going to be destroyed You
| are not going to import American principles. 1t
ia not an American principle to reduce the borough
franchise. 1t is n return to old English principes
a restoring of the state of things that subsisted
before AID ought to subsst again.
Here he quoted some of the Radical say
lngs OF Mr.. DIsRAELI good many years
ago. The most eminent English, as we'll Us
American statesmen, have their awkward an
tecedents.
| Mr.. GLADsToNE's concluding remarks were
as follows:
my honorable friend says we know nothing
| about the laboring classes. Is not one single
word sufficient reply, and that word is
Lancashire, associated with the sufferings of the
last four years, painful and bitter, but
30 nobiy and gioriously borne7 The qualities
then exhibited were the qualities, not of
select men here and there among depraved null
titude, but Of the masses. For my own part
Can not believe that the men who exhibited those
qualities were only sample of the people,
| and that the rest would not have done the
same had occasion arisen. can not see what ar
| gument could be found for some wise and temper
ate experiment OF the extension OF civil rights
among such people il the experience OF the past
Few years does not afford it. Let US consider the
enormous and silent changes which have been
going forward among the laboring population.
| May use the words to honorable and right honor
able gentlemen once used BY way of exhortation
by Sir r. PEEL-'eevate your vision p Let us try
and raise our views above the fears, suspicions,
Jealousies, attacks and recrimnations of this
place. Let us look onward to the time of our
| children and children's children. Let Ia know
what preparation should be made for that time.
Is there or is there not steady movement
OF the laboripg classes, and is or is not that
| movement onward and upward do not
say you can SEQ it, for, like all great processes,
it Was undesirable in detail, but solid and
assaiable in character. 1t is like those move
ments OF the earth's crust which science tells us
is even now going on in certain portions OF the
globe which sailors sail over and the traveller by
land treads upon without being conscious of them:
but science tells you that the changes are taking
place, and that things are not rs they were,
Has my right honorable friend ever considered
the astonishing phenomena connected with some
portion Of the conduct of the laboring classes,
and especially in the Lancashire distress? Has
he considered what an amount of self-denial was
exhibited by these men in respect to the American
war? Gould any man have believed that a con-
duct 30 still, 80 calm, frm SO energetic, could
have planted itself in the minds of a population
without becoming known patent fact through
out the whole country? And yet when the day of
trial came we saw the noble sympathy on their
part with the people Of the North-that determi-
nation that, by their suffering what they might,
no word should proceed from them that would
damage cause 30 just. On one side there was a
magnificent moral spectacle; on the other side
there was great lessen to us ALL to teach us that
in their minds, by process OF quiet installation,
opinions and sentiments were gradually forming
themselves, Of which we for a long time remain
unaware, but when at last they make their appear.
ance, are found mature. solid and irresistible
"You cannot fight against the future. Time Is
on our side. The great social forces which move
on in their might ard majesty, and which the
tumult OF our debates does not for a moment i'm
pede or disturb-those great social forces arc