The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-06-12

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9 The double purpose was then frat your own bust
ness and the other business in regard 70 sn~ orsAu'~
tionf A. II was double purpose
Q Did no In any OF those interviews tell you how
to Canada,
Objected to BY Mr. McK.on Is leading question but
allowed by the Commissioner
Wtncss-I cannot say that he did.
O. Can you say that he did n0tf A. No. ~
O. Give your best recollection as TO what no ava
sayi cannot recolect anything he sad on 'hA' CO.
casion.
Did You ever attend any public meetIrk Of this
SANITATION at which Mr. Roberts made speechs A
Q Where and whom A. believe il was at tho Cooper
@ Did you remain during tho entire mse.ns' A. ]
think did
werc you on tho stage in the body Of tho house'
A. believe was on the stage
@ Have you any doubt about w A. J was ON THO
back par OF the stage.
Q Who accompanied you 70 the place, A. Z don't
know but what went alone 10 the place
Q You didn't go with Mr. Robertss A. No
O You say you heard the speech OF Mr.. Roberts A.
q = -nu listened attentively 10 Il, A. Yes
O. wha. did no say on that occasions A. could not
tell you one "ra OF !.
Mr. McKeon here remarked that when the British
government wanted 10 runish OConne Tor his efforts
In the OF Irish independence sent reporter Of
supposed fthc United States governnSnt was In earnest
that II would have sent reporter 70 Ako down the
speeches Of Mr. Roberts tho occasions whom he had
spoken IT this had been DONE however he did not be-
leve Mr. Roberts would have repeated tho experiment
which O'Connell awaited himself Of which was TO adj
dress his audience in the Irish language, and In that
way FOIL the reporter
This statement elected enthusiasts applause from tho
spectators In the court room.
Commissioner that is repeated again the will
be cleared.
Mr. Courtney TO tho wi.ncsswhat was the purpor. or
Mr. Rnlan ~ vyna npE entun
@ What further A. cannot tell you one word OF
what ho said.
gar to the invasion Of Canada that yon recollects
A. There may have been
@ Was there notS A. Tcannot cay.
@ Do You not rccoect that occasion or his asking
the aud for funds and troops for the purpose OF
carrying the IN behalf Of Ireland In Canada A.
have no recollection that no did.
O. Did you sca any moneys subscribed A. did.
Q Do YOU know for what purpose it was subscribed
A. don't know.
@ DO you know General sweenyS A. have seen The
General.
O whercs A. On tho streets
O. At any other placer A. Yes.
q Wheres A. don't rccollcct.
q Did yon him At the headquarters in Broad
wayS A. No
O. Did you SEQ Colonel Murphy theres A. don't
know; might have seen him
Mr. McKcon here objected the inquistoria process
which no alleged was being pursued bv Mr. Courtney In
elicling evidence from the Witnesses and deed him to
point out case where simar procedure had bcen
tolerated.
Com District Attorney ~ perfectly right
and has kept himself properly within the limits Of his
authority.
Hrr AT THE IxroRxyR.
Mr.. McKcon remarked that tho wretch Wishart who
inst gated tcse proceedings ought 10 DO produced and
sxsmRcd arst and that the fact that he does not make
his appearance ought to tho indignation Of tho
whole organization.
This remark produced profound sensation among the
spectators all Of whom seemed Of the thought
few OF them giving ntteancs 70 whispered words quick
and sharp with passion
Mr. McKeon hoped there would be no disorder. He
ttsA
should be taken from his family and friends Imprisoned
for days and yet after examination OF two hours,
that particle Of proof had been elected against him.
He had tho most powerful govern mt on earth--tho
British ACKNOWLEDGEMENT him, VINO could employ men
and pay them to sIbssrve ,s purposes. and he wanted
He II hcre') The counsel stated that he should be
put upon the stand them aud that the District Attorney
ought MT 10 him up Wore thcy 10 60 on 10 this
inquistorisl wayY He wanted to know what way he
was connected with General Sweeay but did not blame
the District Attorney so much, who he had no doubt
trying 10 do his duty; yet the Cover nment max
ing hM the prosecutor Of this Before Roberts
arrested tho Dt.rc. Attorney, no said, should have had
touched man In ali this he tried unless he
had nt tho papers in his hand and never had engaged
in such speculation as this lie mnss not be asked 70
this matter. and asked how the District Attorney pro-
posed TO connect Colonel Roberts with Colonel Murphy
NJ Sosiney Il reply s,.s.d tia. ,hl. cbulI.on NE
all very nne intended fos effect and applause and that
II probably had accomplished i,s purpose He vel.
do nothing in this bu, hts simple duty and this he
intended to DO notwithstanding the inslnuatlons nmi
as'9ns Or threats Of tho coans, o. q any ohsr
Attorney or ever occnp~d the position Of public prose
cutor who hung to alleged criminal with such bull
dog tenaclty such yruencs NJ did the learned gentle
man who had jus, taken his seat and that II did be
him this occasion 10 attempt 10 lecture himself
a. to the manner in With he should conduct This case
He had departed oa from the strict letter OF his
duty ana the strict line Of official conduct In cas-
OF this nature, he con,snded, tho prosecution was
obliged 20 resort 20 the aocaes aud Jadlios OF the
party charged with the offence Who else would know
except from common IMPORT and common report VAS no
evidence in Of this kind He was no, here 10 as
pue denv the patriotism Of these men but VT Obj
hons reported 10 have been associated With Mr.
Roberts in what this csims and he claimed
10 ccas and dirct violation o. the Neutrality laws
Of the United states and his evidence necessary.
Mr. Roberis had been properly ARE ted ly proper
evidence placed before tho Commissioner. who
no, been ndduccd yct. because the learned gentle
man had inrrpos objection after objection, some o
VII CHI he thought had been very unnecessarily susta ned
50 that II Ike pulling out eyetecih TO get one soil
isry word Of Testimony from these wfnassrs " had
violated principle Of his duty aud though not intend
ing speak OF the merits OF this controversy N he
could not make a hold Colonel Roberts then
tho result woad he inevitable that he must and will 10
DISCHARGED. There was no pcrson IN this community
Who would be more Wiling o. satisfied with the fsct
appearing patent before Tho Court AMI tis community
thai All these newspaper reports ANA stories circulated
and all these bulletins sections and myths, aud
that the accused bad ben sbned and wrong'd In this
matter He asked the qHcytion boaurc u wa matter
were connected with this organization together II had
appeared ths bulletins and kilograms and AT tho re
quest or with tho knowledge az least, 81 Mr. Robsrts,
Published In the wsrsprs and he remarked
tha, " he could the who had been the
frontier With arms with Mr. Roberts u would become .
very material part ~ this He proposed 10 ssk the
iness whether he had these officers At the F~nsn
With Colonel Roberts and aycrrcd that u
v ould b. n significant fact 4 they had left soon aftef
v ards and had gone 10 the 'front.' With large force
Nr McKson 10 Mr. cuurfney--f object 10 this inqusi
ton win state II .rying 10 connect Colonel
Murphy with Colonel HoDert-f We are entitled 10
NOV
The Commits oner decided that this was mmaies a.
Ind the examination proceeded.
Mr. Courtney the witness Had you ever seen Colo
bei Murphy al headquarters. and II So with whom a
have not 10 the bcss Of my recollection.
q What 10 your b~si recollection on the subject
A would snswer that question agani could do 70
better than have.
q Did You ever have any other interviews than those
wo during the last three weeks, A. Yes, since last
Wednesday several times.
q Before lest wednesfayf A. Think not
q You wcrs with him the day n hs arrest vent
you, A. Vas with him that morning
q Did you have any convcrxaon With him then a
regard TO this nvssionf A. No
The prosecution here elcssd the examination ~ the
witness The defence did not desire 70 ask any qaes