The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-12-01

Cancellation of the Examination Before Justice
DowIing--Frank HELEN Admitted 10 Bail
Under $4,000, and w. X. Babcock Conn
United for Triai-Important Evidence Con-
cerniug Jay Cooke e. Co.. &c.
The further examination OF witnesses In the case OF
Frank HELEN and w. r. Babcock, for alleged com
plcty In the Lord bond robbery, was continued and
concluded yesterday before Justice Downg at the Court
OF Special Sessions As before, Mr. Cunning Bedford
IT, represented the prosecution. Mr.. Algernon Sui.
livan ex- Judge Stuart Ex-Governor Love- Of Maryland,
and Mr. Clarence Seward appeared counsel for Frank
HELEN, and o. /. Stewart for W. r. Bsbcock, 8. B.
Basue representing tho interests Of Rufus l. Lord from
whom the bonds were stolen.
TESTIMONY n. G. yABSEsrocK.
Tho first s!iness called was Nj, II FAhpcsocs, d
the a% ?. Jay DSose oa e%eoy =
government cIerk, and purchases and sells government
securities; know OF my own personal knowledge that
bought one g. 600 sevcnhrty NO llos) United States
Treasury bond and also four 1000 seventhry bonds
numbered 3.sss, 1901. 3sse and 1890, from Frank
HELEN; Mr. Thomas lord had severai interviews with
mo last spring, but ! don't know that he warned or
urged me 2. Tho necessity 81 , 70. ,hoss hand
doubtless said 10 him that 20 examine and compare the
bonds received with the numerous printed hand. bills
would take much moro time than the whole OF the bur
ness OF banker did happening 10 DO In Washing
ton I discovered tbs stolen bonds there, and saw
on them that some had been erased; have
my telegram with mo containing the numbers Of those
bonds those bonds were sent 70 Washington through Jay
Cooke Co, by whom they had boon converted into Ave.
~enies the Sub Treasury the numbers Of tbem
1IOe, 60 lol, 900 and LIS; by Mr. Garlands
affidavit those bonds obtained from Frank HELEN
by that IL appears bought Of him the 17h Of Oclo
Der a seven.thlriy bond No I, 100 and October ~
bonds 90 I0i 900 and L lis Of 5000 each was In
Washington on tho 18th Of November; Jay Cooke Co..
Iknos did not have those bonds viewed 10 Washing.
ton by Adams Express Company the sub Treasury may
have done so am not aware TIA, Mr. Lord or Mr.. BAR
ron my Interview with me told me IN express. terms
no, buy any 81 those sto bonds prior 10 October
yes he certainly requested for not to- " would take
about Ave minutes to look that one list and compare
the bond with ~ never purchased any Of those bonds
Gross examination By Clarence sewsrf-After the dis
covory that those bonds had been stolen Jay Cooke
Co did refund tho money 20 Mr. lord return the
bonds 20 him. they not now In our poaseesion; We
purchased them and they passed oct Of our hands by
sale some OF the circulars Informed that they
Lords bonds. Mr. Garands afdavit Ia correct: never
10 my knowledge Frank Helien In ONCE when
| ~ss IN washington had no knowiedge from whom
-. croka 4 - has oh,anaS ,hose bond.. Mr. fordss
Damo not visible the bonds, they had the
OF Mr. Lord legibe payable 10 blank o. order since my
return from Washington have not compared bonds
with the lists; the house has always enjoined lie
clerks and attention 70 notice oil stolen bonds the
bonds received by the Clerks and not by the nrm
the clerk hal otoyei Instructions no would have notified
Mr. HELEN that these bonds stolen; ! know OF no
particular Transaction yssf' ,es hou.s has no.lnsd per
may have occurred have known the clerks 10 examine
those lists. converted the bonds on tho 1eh and 2s,h
81 October two days after got them, and transferred
them TO the Sub Treasury for Jay Cooke Co.
Direct examination resumed i never notified the
clerks specifically about these stolen bonds remember
Mr. Garland examining the printed hsndbllls somstlms
last spring when he detected seven-thirty note
stolen and returned received before the receipt
Of this handbll returned ~ the branch ONCE In
Philadelphia where IL received. officer and
talked with me about Il, don't know who the offcor
was then warned those In the hous, against rcceiyng
such notes and bs careful and compare the numbers
with the printed irts they ob~yed the instructions
have reason 20 besye. rule. there may have been
exceptional casc-.
Crs~s examined by r. n rraguo q Did you before
the 18th 81 Ocobsf purchase other bonds numbered
35s AMI 20 1877 have knowlego o. these casce
had no occasion 70 look them MP U You sad you
purchased one from Mr. Martin, 10 BOstonf A. Yes;
remember he case the.e three bonds la addition
10 those mentioned - this lot
Cross examined by counsel for Mr. Bahcock--Our
house purchased ono a. 900 bond IN Phiadslphla ID
va. returned Philadelphia; IN the hurry and hustle o.
business IN IL common 70 buy bonds Wall street with
out looking their numbers. but the examination 10
frequently made At the close ~ the day when the nu-
bcrs registered and then n IL no, likely bonds would
bc discovered stolen unless iist 10 the house
but never DO that mssef
Cross examined by A. snilivsn--r believe there Il
suit pending against the house o. Jay Cooke Co. Ia
favor OF Rnlus Lord " recover the value % two %
theae sto en- bonds they included In he~> bat
alleged he part ~ tb0se stolen from Mr.. Lord;
that suit commenced hcfre the date u the p1chss
OF the nrst u from Frank HELEN; tb1 did not
mako the clerks careful they were - careful
they could BE- before; u iDdaced no extra care.
The examination of tHls witness su here concluded
TESTIMONY yssrs A osHfasb.
James A Garland government clerk 10 tbs house z
tornsy and AZ BIS statements we're principally given
before In bis andaviis previously publishsd In the
HAtp and for.shsdorsd IN The tssi nOuy % ths pre-
n.1ng witness hs the foo wtnx brfef