New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1866-03-01
FROM WARRINGTON.
Co,tiuued from First Page.

Tie SrEAKEG-The gentleman from Massachusetts.
having once occupied this clair. ~ familiar with the
rule that debate on the Presidents Message In Com
miitee of the Whole is unlimited but that on bills in the
House special orders resolutions TOR amendment OF
the Constitution when point oil order Is raised, the
DEBATE must be confined to the pending question Inc
Chair supposed TINT the gentleman from Ohio was in
dugng In line If debate that was entirely cognae W
the matter before the House The gentleman from
Massachusetts understands and the House hhdeI
stands that there must be some limit TO debate IT
must be relevant some extent to the matter penang
| before the House.
in the Honse of Representatives at an earlier period,
but only the general rule affecting the question The
Constitutional amendment opens up " the fullest de-
bate on the condition Of the country
Mr. HALF make the point OF order that the ques'
ton is not debatablc and the gentleman from Massa'
chusetts has right 10 be heard
Mr.. BAsKs-Then appeal from the decision OF the
saw II tho gentleman from OHIO we're discussing the
official acts of the Secretary of State he would not he
Wonse 10 the ocia acts of chief officers OF the Gov
eminent do not think that admissible In debate: IL
We are 10 complain OF anything in the official CONDITION
of any affair of the Government notice should be gwen
and some measure for the correction o. that act But
here this has reference to an opinion OF great Import
ance given to the country by the secretary ol
State unoflcias and Informally. affecting It's
condition ard the saety OF the people Wneh
we have under consideration the subject OF the
condition OF the country In reference 10 inc
proposed amendment Oi the Constitution, we certainly
must be allowed discuss the condition OF the country
and incidentally the opinion OF the Secretary OF State
in reference thereto. unoiicially and Informally tx.
pressed. / referred therefore. to the general rule
governing parliamentary discussion. and not at ali To
The distinction very properly made by the Chair De-
tween the rules rs they stand at present and the ru
as they stood at earlier period Ii In not my wish
TO make issue with the Chair; and therefore, nav
ing had opportunity OF explaining this SUBJECT
withdraw my appeal
low ed TO make the statement by which 1t would have
been made plain That vas IN order. "isheu 70
show that distinguished as the Secretary q o,ste H.
his uttegances about there being no danger iof t9e M
tire of the country not to be relied on IN view OF
the fact that he had made similar utterances before
" hich had utterly failed And now II must come to
this that high official o; the country must so out
side of his official position 20 assai the action OF te
peoples Representatives, and they cannon answer
him on this floor. therefore DO respectfully appear
! from the decision OF the Chair
| The SPrAKrE-The Chair will state. as the gentle,
mai intends 10 press his appeal TO vote the ground
OF his decision. Tie gentleman from Ohio Is OF course
aware how painful is to the Chair to rule that his re-
marks are out Of order but he WAS compelled from a
determination to decide impastally 10 do so.
Mr.. BNGHAM-I would he sorry 70 question the I'D
| partlaty Of the Chair
The SrEAKrR-The gentleman states that q member
OF the House under this rule would not be privileged 10
reply 70 the remarks of the Secretary OF State Men,
beers are nlways privileged reply to remarks for
there the largest liberty OF debate IN Committee
of the Whole. The 51th Rule requires that member
shall confue himself TO the question under debate anu
avoid personality; but in Committee OF the hole ne
i, not bound TO confne himself This Is a proposed
constitutional amendment and the chair thinks that
scusson OF the previous promises OF the secretary
of state il not confnng the debste TO the pending
question fit II the Chair does not know how the rule
be he's quoted is even 10 be applied The question now
IS Shall the decision OF the char sthhd as tHe jug
mcnt of the House
Mr. EIDEIpGE uloved to lay the appeal on the table
The SPEAKER minated that he preferred o Fo'e 10
Mt FinrlpGr thereupon withdrew his motion.
| Mr. RAYMOND q. Y inquired whether the question
OF order was not dcbatable.
tc SpI A
! tent
! Mir EAYuoNp-I DO not desire 10 debate the original
proposition or tris but desire to ask the geh'enan
from Ohio
Mr. BEcnAM-To relieve the gentleman withdraw
my appeal ,.
Mr. BNCHAM-I thought might be permitted 70 re-
, iievc the gentleman. ..,,
| relief but | do not want relief thrust upon me.
wish TO ass the gentleman from Ohio whether be thinks
it quito proper aud right TO introduce entirely NJ" mat
ter into ts discussion whether he proposes 10 allow
q reply 10 his remarks whether he proposes to call
the previous question and cut on all reply lhat VIII
decide nv vote on his question OF order.
! Nj. RNGHAN--in order 20 relieve the gentleman
! propose TO withdraw my appeal
Mr.. RAYMoSD-Will The gentleman be Kind enough
! to answer my question:
| Mr. BIvGH, a-I decline to answer n.
| Mr. KAYMoyD-Is it because the question is dis
courteous or improper
Mr.. ByGnsN-Iha have no reply 10 make TO tie gentle
III sPrAKlR-The gentleman has withdrawn the
aI2eal,n ,o,.,, rt.-oi.ono e,-,,o, ror,,,k v,,c,
desire 10 make here aud trust IL will not he consd.
cred ont of order II hns been announced Nv those ~
high places that there is danger 10 be appfehended
! from that million Of men lately In oims against
lie Republic-,hat those States NAV be admitted a,
once without any sort Of oonoItiOn-tha the loyal
people who have saved their Government from over
throw by wager Of battle have no rght to take any Sc
curity for the furethnt nothing remains for them 10
do but k the atted calf and Welcome back tue return
ing prodiga traitors lave no doubt that at no dis
tant day testimony will be adduced 10 satisfy every
honest man who wishes well 10 the country and the Con
stint on that there conspiracy existing 10 every state
latel, ia insurTection. and perchance beyond tbcif
limits under the invitation to kili inc lated call'
Swear thcm-sNear them oil and let them 20 to
take DOS session Of The Legislative powers OF tt couh
,rv and accomplish by false and corrupt legislation
what they failed 10 accomplish by arms IN supper,
/ of mis- -ew Nj. Bingham sent 20 the cIerks
desk and had read an article copied, , no'l
! Tn, NortoH (Va) Pos. headed Great victory
for the SoGll' and stating that since tbe
morning Of the news Of the great Southern victory Of
Bun Run was received carrying JOY and lubilation To
every Southern household there has been no such GO
rious news received by the southern people AS thht
of the Veto Of the frcodnens Bureau bH ana mat u
was the greatest victory achieved during The war
Greater than any Of the fcas of Stonewal Jackson'
army, sc. ,-,te
Mr.. BIsGHAn-The article Is from a Virginia paper,
an organ of Rebellion and Secession.
Mr. EoCERs QIaving obtained q look al it)-t Is
Mr. CHANLER-I MAKE point OF order That " 10 our
Of order for the gentleman 10 publish document OF
re olutionaTy and fcbeOus character IN MS speech
The srHAKEE decided thot that not point of
order.
Mr. Ri<oHAN--Yes discover thn' il IL not IN order
in The judgment OF the same gentleman to warn the
| people OF the dangers impending over them. 1hat
article has been copied all over the country quote
in suppor: Of what ] have. already iniimated
that The fued calf ~ 10 be Killed
North to welcome back the returning