The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-05-03

does not exclude merely those who oFcnai
spra'ors, but may nnaiy have adhered 70 we rston
Now consider that proposition fof menent Iho-~
States 10 be represented tss Other hou~s and 40
this body, after hsfing srceped t~ss iersns snf shi
OF the people would ak Who veef rh~ eoaorei
vote. Take North and hisslseippt
ana Georsla who 70 choose rsrfs. On 81 sss - 49,
for the committee fogblds Bn II mast ~ that ioes
seem to me that no man expect that any q thess
States viii ever accept the terms pfspcsed sfe wh
the Eren,,,g g'a1 that point all fartasF thas
not sure, they would accept them, that mes ever
ought 10 be permitted 20 vote AZ al
Mr. FrsssSps~--f wish 70 ask ne senator ssestnp
have the impression that fTcdsni tohnsoa has over
and over again said that The sossrnnss q 'hs. ses
have been loyal 10 the Union.
Mr. DnoS-In che ars, place. hes leave % az % Nc
forming my opin,oas VIA, ne rrssssu, o. sTvt alv
else says; So tie President had ssii -. ~eaA n@
be Of binding authority 90 me unless ny indsmtah -
proved n. In the next place. rss thai sxFee san
the sentiment bccause he President saia Al va ~
cause believe Is correct ssntlment Nos thai - -
what the report says The report Of the couuii ~
ssy that only loyal men eau vote tagw 'as fba
President says that every body says she Nins -
do but the question u, what ]. loyal mani
Mr. FtssKsptS-Ds be noi cav those Nha hhd hsen
loyal, those who had not participated 10 ~ fhi 2,
should be entrusted With the government vas ~ iai
his accommodation In REGARD 70 iehressef'
Mr.. mras IN reply sad that he meant a.rse Sho Nerp
loyal at the time of their reaau,ssgn Ne wfaia nei
say thar IL not correct 20 difiraneiisa rsrn fai
ere; bat 70 dlsfan hisc tho Nhos people wp4ld - f
polite and unwiss
Mr GmSEs rcpl o. Iowa, said that ihsrs sse'asi g
he controversy 90 what were ihe viest iho
President OF tho United states fsom tho eg n fati
ton which Mr Dixon occupied toward ths ircasri ~
thought he (Nr. By0n ought 10 b. nprsed 90 ire at
ioct lie desired 90 know from him Whittier rie,
In the Nof,onai Ia'efigsHs,r ~ this mofling With
he understood was tecvraphei ~ she cannitF fssl
night represented the views 81 tho riesd "a b aaf.
ported 10 give the proceodngsoi cataet - n3 o.
which the late report 81 The Recauairaci ga slnttfs
discussed II he tMr Grimes unftrttoi tle fNfe
OF language this not the position ~ ne VI
heretofore II he understood ne subject ihe yrclirnt
insists that these states sta DC nnedinier fHife
sented; that they entitled under tho r0u.itanN 60
immediate representation this floor and NJ me- other
House; that Rntccsdent condii on shouli ar ~
and that his Cabinet concur In that oIinion W. We
Grmesl supposed that was the proposition ilt f.a p
from the White House M opposition "a ihe tapnn ~ III r
Committee OF fiftecn-ths Immediate nncnnshiNnA nf
MISSION without any terms OF conditions 81 tAf repre-
sentatves from those States.
Mr. DIxoS-The Senator from Iowa ininatel n ht
opening remarks that had peculiar kuoyiafg NJ
Of knowledge OF the Pre- idents views Hs sfpke
of the peculiar relations in which stood 81 ie Press
dent The Senator n entirely mistaken 10 rer.rH tn
that Ny relations 20 the Prc-iden, prea eiy sumter
TO those Of the senator himself have sesn I've fgsi
dent but within the space OF two months, aha tfn
| for not over i've minutes take his views Rom hs
| written published statements.
NJ. GRNEs-lf the Senator viii exeuse me the fart
that the Senator's resolution idcatosl IA ssr and
almost In terms, with the language attributed Ia TIE
National IneugencU this morning 70 the fiefident YEA
| me 10 iufer-
Mr. DrIoNIf It IL identical in spirit then ibe nstor
| Is mistaken on another point, when be rays us To
| President has taken views and nex grounds
He ssys that the language attributed TO the .rc cni IN
the paper from which he has read W identical In spr
with the resolution that have offered Ny rcsol on Il
taken from the Presidents ssage ~ the Pred
mems Bureau bill than two months ago, that 10
Senator will that no Is mistaken IN snpposing that
there has been change In III. presdsnt@ viss,
Identical with his and DO not suppose thers
las been any change do not suppose that the Pci
dent has changed from tho views contained ia that
resolution. ! copied tho resolution from The
words OF the President contained in that veto mesage
because thought they were extremely well expressed
and because they my Now, desire say
with regard this resolution of mine that have not
offered il consequence Of any consultation with any
| human being have not the President any
member Of the Cabinet any human being with regard
10 IT, read the article In the Epaiag Io and struck
being true, and M coming from source entlng
TO great weight and authority. knew II would be
respected by this body from the character Of the writer
thought II correct and It exactly Ia accordance
| with my sentiments Mr Dixon made some further
marks IN advocacy Of the resolution he had offered
Mr. GRIsn-I did not intend TO convey the idea tina,
the Senator from Connecticut has master; but submit
afir all he has said, whether was not perfectly Jne
fed saving that peculiar relations subsised beteeen
him and the President when he himself aimits that he
went not only for the spirit but for the den cal
Of his resolution 10 the celebrated age OF the
| President ia the Froedmen's Bureau bill.
| Mr. DrxoS said II was not uncommon for resolution
10 DO offered In language taken from President message
Mr. suNsER rose.
Mr. SHRMAs called for The regular order, which was ~
Post once Appropriation bill
Mr. SONNET shall say bot a few words would
observe tia, tho Question nyovs ~ W.. Ss, ns %
be dsrcd perhaps always In order 10 discuss H.
do not know tia. 40 ought 10 day without intro
this DISCUSSION but While say that very positive
on point. deprccn,e effort to prccipi
tate decision that question and do most sincerely
hope that Senator from Maine the chairman of the
Committee on Reconstruction will bear that In mind
do not believe ha, Congress at ihls moaeHt y ~ con
question. ! afraid that excellent committee has
listened much ~ the voices from without, insist
ing that there b. such AN i-sne pre.entei 70
the country Tor myself, have always thought that
call wa pr There " 10 occnHi0n now Tor an
issue 70 be pr scented. There elections nov pend
ipO in nv of
over. Tho election IN New Hampshire u over There
arc IN be no elections before next autumn aud What "
the Ccrasnn now for isaue 20 30 presented 10 Tie
country SEQ none; unless Congress, after the most
atlro and careful dscueson 81 tho subject - able n
one phalanx 20 forward 10 battle Now, VIZ, do no,
intend be iuo any premature discussion 81 the
issue se report q ls' 20 ,he aas., 90 q
time am sure thai that report could no, have been
made In tbs last week Of March add
| Tonea thaf repor, until tic last week Of May,
,hey would have made better than they have made
IN the last week u April hope, therefore, fooN ma
out TIA, idoa that the decision IN this question vii b.
postponed far possible 10 the end that AZ just w
ruenree nav ~ allowed to come 20 Congress from ths
country and HAT Congress sef may b. o. ired by thf
fullest ampcst consideration 81 the whole esion
why sir there y the evidence that has been taken be
fore thr committee have not 10 together get
That ought togrthsr ought ~ ~ laFl br'pre
| the country and ought % get from ihe country
tina, Just Influence which The circulation ~ mat
| evidence " calculated a. cause an spf' ~hf.e
ever that evidence IL read people VIII -ay ton res
Is justified IN ,n,i,.,ng gI.n .e,er"y '% 70.
and hope that Congress will act until wc get from
tho country tho legitimate influence OF that g. debcc
But, STR, allow me 20 ray by way ~ c"nneut on w
seems my excellent ffiend when hs brought Tor
| ward his proposition, forgot two thing
| Mr. DIns-I forgot NOR than That probably .
| Mr. erxxyp-He says probably more than That Vet
two things e@tec ally he forgot which are 20 essenta
that he forgot everything In INC hfsi psei nc ~s"
that vac had been IN a war In the second place. be Tor
| got that -four Millions q human beings lad becr
| changed from condil0n OF slavery W oonau"n o.
| freedom Mr. Sumner dwet briefly uIon those two
| points urging that proposition Tor r"cobsirstle =
should embrace security for the future and proe foh
] 10 the freedmen. :.
Mr. DroS--one word IN reply 20 The sens,ar fIom Ma
sachusctts with the % the senat The s"nat0
| rays that have forgotten many things, Ani anon.
Others the guarantees required by tho fo1r millions Of
slaves who have been cmsncIa,sd desire 70 a@k TIE
| Senator what guarantees thos" persons beve 10 hs
| proposition reported by the committed The senator
exhausted all the " the English language IN g.
nouncing resolution which vas before tho nate Eo'