The daily phoenix. [volume] (Columbia, S.C.) 1865-1878, 1866-06-05
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| ,Io,assas, now ats Washington recently
spcntsan hoar& in ,She stutaie OF the
Maine artist simmons, an sonyersas
ton With Gen: G,psas ,.andf gives an
interesti,sg statemen ofltheSopiniona
expressed by4hc icading man Of the
cotiaia,y upon r''nie1. ana measures. y
We mako a f"w extracts: :,..~ - &
The general. who was dressed in a
p4'tin 'taf.sef civilian suit, haa hardy
removed his hat from lis head l,efore
he toek u cigar from his pocket,
H4htsd IT. anI began to puff ont
yreaths OF smoke. tsT am breakinr
mt from smoking, 5fciharked Grant.
ENheR 4 was<in. the field I smoked
reiglteen- Oh twenty cigars day, but
lnew smoke only nine OF tenvs
There were but two faifit,es in
the Virginia campaign Of 'Gl which
ought to have been successes, said
Grant, "aul those were The failures
to capture Petersburg wi,em we
crossed thesJames, and afterwards at
the mine explosions 2 snBut," added
Grant, 8 st was all for the best THAI
We hailed in those two instances, for,
had we succeeded Mt either time, INt.
would have Mt once been obliged to
abandon Richmond, and would have
been abtc TO secure q safe retreat into
the interior Of tho Sonth, where he
w"ui't have prolonged the contest for
years. Our failures then, aud thc
td the rebels to hold
on TO their capital, gave us time 10
extend oar left Soutiwar.l, to bring.
up Sherman from Georgia and
tl'crehy mndc it impossible for 1aec
to escape" - 50
Ihc conversation turned to the
Virginia campaigns OF 1861 and 1868.
II notice." rremarkea Heii.1, Ga:lnts
that Mr.. Swinton has published a
HISTORY of tho campaigns in the Old
Dominion, in whicl, he takes the
ground that I gained nothing, but,
ON the contrary, lost many valuable
lives nsclessly, by moving my army
from HE Hnpidan direct towards
Richmond, rather than by taking il
aroun'l-hy wafer to the Peninsula, IA
Mcclellan did. This" observed the
General, 'fis Il revival of the exploded
theory (referring to the Mcclellan
policy of snhduing the rebellion hv
peace measures. A half q million
troops might have been kept within.
sight of Washington till dooms-dav,
nnd tho rebellion would have
honrished moro and more vigorously
day by day. Fighting, hard knocks
only, could have accomplished the
work. The rebellion must he over
come, II overcome at all, by force;
It's Resources destroyed; it's fighting
material obliteratcd, before peace
could be obtainc.l.":
iteferrin" t. the temper of the
Sonthern people, he remarked that
they are mnch less disposed now to
BRING themselves to- the proper frame
OF mind than lhcy We're one Year
since, "a Year ago" said ;hc, s.thcv
w"r: willing to do anything; now
they regard themselves MS masters of
the situation. Some of the rebel
generals" he added, care behaving
nohly, and doing all they can to in
dncc the people to throw aside their
Old prejndices, and to conform their
course to thc changed condition of
things. Johnston and Dick TAYLOR,
pnrucnlarly, are exercising y good
bnt," he added, ''Lec is
behaving badly. He is CONDUCTING
himself very differently from what [
had reason, from what he said at She
timc of the surrender. to suppose he
would. No man ut the South is ca
nablc OF exercising tenth part of
the lnilncncc for good that he is; but,
instead OF using it, he is setting an
example Of forced ac1uiescencc So
S:adginG and pcrnicious in its effects
rs to hc hardly realized"
in reply to = question rs to whe-
ther he was not surprised rs to the
of the collapse Of the re-
beili"n, Grant said that he was, al
Though he had always supposed that
when it did break down, it would 60
all ut once. 81 thought, however,
lie remarked, ''tllat it would hold out
season, and anr not surc,"
he aiIcd. ''hli that it would have
been better for the country if it had.
There were some parts Of tho coun-
try where our armies had never trol.
particularly Texas, which needed to
i"ei the hlIehtinG effects of the war,
I" BRING their people to realizing
sense OF the cnorlnity OF their crime
;nd the necessity of II thorough ro-
pentancc. ! find said he, .'that
those parts of the South which have
not f"lt the war, and particularly