The New York herald., 1866-07-08

TO ask there circumstances in which journalists
reeve semi Official notice not 20 ak of such and such
ersons and sth and such erenS II that Is true where
is their lbertyf Were they left to themselves their
courage would be sufficient guarantee but II there is
above them sovereign will which disposes OF their
pensoud interruption and almost unanimous marks Of
denial)-
NJ JULES FAvRx-I merely mean to say that there
are certain questions which they forbidden to touch
NJ GRAsER DE CAxAasAc-There are several journal
lists among here. request them to state II their
pens are free f-yes or no.
NJ GUERouLr-I reply at once Since have resumed
my position writer on the public press have
been interdcted TO speak any subject Hear hear
have certainly sometimes received intmation to
sn. on bcn certain shos Ssy. aS,
out any such advice II has also occurred to TO
ceive invitation from the Minister concerned not to
discuss questions Of an spciing character iovement-
agitation.)
M JuLEs FAvRE-Ahi there it Isl
NJ GUERouIr-But whenever such recommendations
are given am at full liberty accede them or not
according to my judgment and on my own responsibility
Hear, hear As myself | have the pretcnson OF
that the independence of individuals Is loss the situa
ton than in the character Of each. (Hear, hear)
taon has been occasonay sent TO me abstain from
certain questions but that has been done In such .
manner that could not suppose that any refusal on my
part would be attended with dsagreeable consequences
to the Journal (Hear, hear
M. JULES FAvRE-Then you more fortunate than
n Gueroult who received warning.
N. GUERouLT-Yes, but long after
NJ JULES FAvRE-Wel It was certainly after
n. HAvIS-I am convinced that no interdction has
ever been gwen to French journal which could clash
with its duties to society Had anything OF the kind
been DONE should have resisted neither warning,
Hear. hear) No, has any prohibition been sent
to which not at full liberty to disregard II that
course suited me. loud approbation.)
The minutes were then put TO the vote and adopted
The French Army.
HOW 1T 10 CONSTITUTED By CONSUMPTION AND
DRAWING LOTs--fTS IMk0RALITIES CONDEMNED
WARNING TO RESPECT THE EMPEROR IN DE-
BATE.
During the session OF the French Legislature on the
discussion the Ordinary Budget Of 1887 the part
der consideration being the condition and expenditure Of
M DIX Ia GursrIERs wished to put to the government
commissioner question to which an answer had been
promised Among the amendments relative to the bill
for calling out 100 900 men, there was one to demand
that the right Of exchanging the numbers drawn by lot
should be authorized among young men OF the same
ment had any intention Of examining the proposition
and secondly, whether In that there any possi
bity to present bill the subject early the next
sion.
General ALLARD. Government Commissioner, said that
the projects ought to be consulted, and that II their
opinion favorable bill might be presented TO the
Chamber next year.
NJ -BIzoN said that Of all the Ministries that Of
War was the one in which reforms and reductions were
the easiest and the most ecessar, Eaher univeral sf
frdge must to be the fundamental ldv Of the country
or the military organization mus be radically modified
The whole system based the conscripton, the law
Of exoneraon, and In that Of engagements and re-en-
gasements, essentially vicious. The drawing by
U esemphs CERTAIN Sn bese
who bad to serve. During the seven years Of
duty some young men forgot their original
trade, others took disgust to IT. and others again
tracted dissolute habits in the barracks The lav #
eroneratiom uas advantageous only 20 The riea and the
engagements and reengagements, If carried out on
would be detrimental national char
acter OF the army. letter from the Emperor, dated
from Algeria had expressed the idea OF introducing
two thousand 1urcos into the ranks. Why not sirty
thousand one hundred thousandp They might easily
be found. The honorable member went to argue that
cngag took place only after the OF
service, viz, at the age Of twenty eight and the
engagements at thirty five, the army was gradually as
sumng very elderly aspect siaughter; wrinkles were
desertion Of the country districts was owing TO those
reenlistments; the liberated soldiers allored by the
bait OF premiums and bigh pay, absented themselves
rom their homes during fourteen twenty years Of
service acquired taste for barrack life and showed no
desire to return to their villages Complaint had also
been made that the French race ,ras deoeneraiing To
the must in part be attributed TO the system Whi
carried OF million Of men, Condemned to ce'ibdcy and
those the most healthy and vigorous in the country
What was the remedy for such state Of thngsS He
thought to be found in adoption Of the system
practised by two neighb0ring cOunries-Prussia and
Switzerland-namcly, service OF only two years. or
three most convinced, said tho speaker, that
the lustrous author OF the Ies Napeoennes has the
convictions when In exile.
The PREsIDEsT-M. Glais Bzoin, be pleased TO confne
yourself to section Of the Ministry OF War; without any
b. GLAs Brzos-I am persuaded that the author OF the
Idecs Ndpoeonisnnes would not wish to expose himself
TO have such words applied to him as were addressed
the other day by eminent TO the Spanish Minis
ter in the Cores"Yotr political disposition uhen in op
position is to speak only about progress and liberty, and
shen yoS are IN por 70 treat as fools all those 'oho BE-
here IN your tcords.n
The PHrupxsr-M Gais. .Biroin, stop you and recall
you to the sass0n ay q r. e.
and not again depart from IT, (Renewed applause) IL
you 90 on shall consult the Chamber TO decide II il will
allow you TO continue speaking tExclamations)
N. JULss TAvRs-Then we may as well get speech
% prepared At the palace OF the President
The PRrsIDxSr-I beg N. Jules Favre 70 explain his
N. JuLRs FAvRE-The explanation is simple enough
II every speaker were stopped In the expression Of his
thoughts II would be impossible TO discuss ything
The PKssDHr-The question Is one OF proprety, which
should he violated and Of which am the guardi-
bsIxnAIss tds Ia creuse) then read some observa.
tons ON the pay and maintenance Of troops In support
Of two amendments proposed by himself and fortytwo
Of hn colleague" The nfst was 70 the following Of
In youns soldier. called sy .he order Of their
8.
;rRsss sas = d: % e Z
The second is thus worded:-
Young men placed By their plumbers in The second part Of
their dsn,vs Sesion :hs Be allowed contract
y III o .SS o9 ss
gulatona concerning the reserve.
Tho honorable member entered INTO an argument Of
considerable length each the amendment proposed
and concluded BY requesting the government 70 present
bill on the subject.
General AlLARD replied that the government opposed
the rst because the substitute in question he dis
liked the naval service, might refuse the engagement
Az 70 the right Of marriage 10 had been inscribed
In any law and could not be allowed 10 subsst in time
OF war Married men were almost lost TO the country.
The number At present from 20 seven and .
half per cent for the reserve and that the latter
force numbered 900 there would be Of no
10 the State
n. DELIAxARRs wished 70 know why the faculty OF
marrying was allowed 70 the department. OF the
and refused TO all othcrsf Cnes OF Enough enough y
The PREsDkEr-Therc Ia demand for q ballot
N. m TMIArcouRr-But the debate 10 not ended.
sHvERAL voIcB-Adjourn, adjourn.
The discussion was again adjourned
THEE BRITISH CABINET CRISIS.
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