The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-03-04

that nothing could be made OF an Irishman 10 his
him in every country except his own when
he omirated no Was as Industrious, as frusa
as indepsndsnt AZ loyal. and as good 4 ctizea oi
mnions OF that power. rhcy might put hve hundred
men in prison, and suppress the conspiracy aud put
there would remain The germs Of ihe maady from wi, ch
would grow up another crop and harvest OF dsaection
There are was mode Of akag loyal and Was the day
not oppose the proposition OF tho government for he
presumed tho circumstances were sch that the course
course towards Ireland. He called upon the govern.
ment 70 shake OF The tnmmels OF doubt, and 10 say
something 70 Ireland that might give hope for the future
b.isyorernm wof bedadror bts &c teas aud scandsi
dt'o 70 me efrfifdfion Of ne country
RoEhucK AND ionsnAs AsswER DRcm
Mr.. R0yBurK wiked why the speech OF The honorable
member for Birmingham had bcen made was II for tho
purpose Of smoothing the difficulties In the way Of
ooncihtlng Ireland. To his mind the purpose
mischief tChc,rs) Ne Gcka1unedged ne reign n EsG-
trna vT Ireland fv csnsaries had been reign of e.
ahd he did not believe centuries Of tyrAnny could be
wipeu out by q small number Of years of good gov
ssrnment; but for tho last thirty years thero bad
interests OF Ireland The honorable member for
birmingham had occupied tho time OF the House ia
single thing that ought to be done lie lNr Roebucsl
tnonsht The great grievances In Ireland the Irish
Church Establishments ia voce-",enant rishtD Il was
asked why ehould thero not be tenant right Irelandf
but why should tho Irish proprietor OF and be und
different law from the proprietor Of land ngandY
Ireland would not bo long before the North would rise
against tho south and In bis mind the north would put
necton with England She was now well governed shs
bnd really very little 70 complain Of and II evident
that she altogether unnt for seifgovernmenL He
government
Mr. HoRsA~ regretted that tho honorable member for
Birmingham had cndeavorcd TO create dsscnsion, by
raising discussion on tho question Of IRISH grievances,
and delivering speech which he had prepared Tor the
motion Of the 0Donogbne the other night danrhisr
port the bill but II was impossible 70 gather from the
speech Of the honorable member whether he v In favor
OF the goycrnm ns or the conspstors The honorsbla
Hopper reminded him OF tho man Ia Cannings "Jaco-
bite as ono OF those patriots OF the world who was
rend Of every country bat his own. Ha lbfr HoS-
Of the government, aud give them every power that
was necessary for putting down this formidable con
spiracy
Nj. DnLos had no sympathy with Fcnianism. On the
contrary he believed IN the only Irsh member who
At the hus,ngs but the facility with which he was sbIs
10 mcet IL and ultimately 70 conquer n had since
movement He believed that the discomfort which u
was useless 10 deny did ort In Ireland had caused
BY nlsgovernment and tho cnsmens VI laws for casa
incrests and against the general welfare OF the people
men. IN their efforts 70 que this dsConsenl
J. NIL
Mr. 8 MIL considered that the occasion was on for
dc 0ri9 and humiliation II Ireland In former yors
hhu boon the Fistlm OF m9G0scfnncnf, OF late ynurs
there could be donb of tho Wish and upon both
sides OF the House " treat her Ia liberal spirit but The
question was whistler good ntsnons were enough add
nhat orlgk b h brouOh fbrpard for gsHovsag
TIE grievance nov co~spssised er
MORE xrxnma
After some observations from Mr. Moore and Mr. Coz.
molly,
Sir J. GRAv defended the Catholic priests from Tho
asrsron which had heonsast upon them VI being Inn
picatsd IN the conspiracy. On tbs contrary the
yirrcy bad bssn denounced BY the pricss, who had
Throughout gwen support 70 the cause of w and order
The ODoSogHrE VI opinion that n governments
would declare that hey would seriously Investigate tie
cause or dsancction the Fenlzu movement woud nnk
into inEignhcanca Co>rcSA 1sncf pAof fr<iNsd M.
qusred .oo.d cveat< pank b,nd inie~ry dfsaChson,
ond he bsiisv 4 ha, ne ordinary cntutcat possy ~
~ ds,p'soi y n> eeysrnmsN. Psosd ~ ns hanat y
s.sss swy eraprsry ADJ ms5xf dSS's
nR oLAnsrox's svxEcH
TUE CnlsrrrLos ov rn ExcHKorKR believed no fal-
lacy eoud DO propagatcden connection with the pre@nt
subject dsngefoos IN s character than the guppo-
sition that the proceedings In which the Houke
Gagec were an appeal 10 substantially English Fnra-
mont 70 apply the hand OF force ireland The evil
dence wAs uniyeral that the Fcnan conspiracy deserved
condemnation and repression BY all who claimed 10
present authority, properly and rsg on, and that
principle tho measure proposed had their unanimous
approval Tho people Of ireland were liable 20 be
guided and misled. aud required to be defended against
themselves
REsrIr-rny susrxxs,ox TO ,ssr mr roxrus
Thc House then divided whom the numbers wcre-foy
leave ~ bring In the bill s5t; against Majority ass
The announcement of the numicr rceirs3 ssln
f1s.ghfer from all parts Of the house.