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WASHINGTON COLLEGE
BANKERS

WASHINGTON COLLEGE
r ExIN GTON
fla CULTG
GENERAL ROBERT f. LEE, President.
CARTER J. HARRIS, Prof of Latin,
JAMES j. WHITE, Prof of Greek
ED. S. JOYNES, A. NJ, Prof. Modern Lam
guages and English.
TO be appointed Prof. Moral Philosophy.
A. l.. NELSON, A. NJ, Professor of Niatbe
matics
WIN. ALLAN, A, NJ, Prof Applied Mathe.
I. S. MocULLoH, A. NJ, Prof Natural
JOHN /. CAMPBELL, A. NJ, Prof Chem.
JOHN W. BRooKENBRoUGH, LII. D..
HARRY EsTILL, A. NJ, Assistant Prof
Mathematics.
c. POWELL GRADY, A. M, Assistant Prof
Latin.
ITO be appoiuted) Assistant Prof. Greek
a Preparatory course has been instituted, in
which Students unprepared Tor the Regular
Glasses may receive instruction in necessary
branches.-The Session begins End Thursday
(l3th) Sept, and ends last Thursday in June
TERMS
Tuition, and all other College fees SlOO
All other Expenses including Board,
Fuel, Lights, &C., need not exceed $50
For further information for Catalogue ad-
dress the Faculty of Washington College, licking
ton, Virginia.
jy9-Dlw-Wlt
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The Cabinet is dissolved. Stanton Har
Ian, Speed and Dennison have rendered their
designations which have been accepted
Several months ago it was intimated to
them that their designations would be ac-
ceptable. Gen. Dix will probably become
Secretary of War Seward and McCulloch
will retain their places.
| News from New Mexico, reports hostile
feeling among the Indians of that territory.
Gen. Pope will be in Santa Fe on the 18th.
| The Senate of Tennessee passed resolution
ratifying the Constitutional Amendment by
vote of IA to 6. There was no quorum in
the House '
Agents of manufacturers in England are
in New Orleans and other parts of the South
to look into the prospects of the next cotton
crop.
The Bell, Breckenridge and Douglas COM
mittees of 1860, will meet in Richmond next
Monday, to consider the call for the Conven-
ton in Philadelphia.
Three more cases of cholera had occurred
in New York-none fatal Three fatal cases
occurred in Brooklyn
The Rev. Alexander Burgess, of Portland,
was elected Bishop of Maine, but declined
The Rev. T. D. Huntingdon was then unani-
mously elected.
In the Senate, there will be "a votes against
the tariff
The President will soon issue Procama-
ton, announcing the restoration of Texas,
and declaring the abolition of martial law in
the South
1t is certain that Gen. Grant would accept
the nomination Of the Republican party He
is strongly in favor of the Constitutional
Amendment
7 After the adjournment of the Philadelphia
Convention, it is said the President will sum-
mon to Washington the members from the
Southern States, and use the army to place
them in their seats, if necessary.
Foreign News.
The Persia brings two days later news. The
dispatches of the cembatants continue con-
Trajectory.
The Prussans claim to have captured five
thousand prisoners at Nachod and three
thousand at Trantenan, and that their victory
was complete at these two points,as well as at
Munchengratz.
At Skalitz, the Austrans claim a victory
and announce as the final result of the battles
on the 28th, the retreat of the Crown Prince
to Glatz, in Silesia, and of Prince Frederick
Charles to Niemes, near Saxeny
The Prussans had captured Troppan, in
Austrian Selesia, but their attack upon Os-
wiecin, in Galcia had been repulsed. They
destroyed the railway between Vienna and
Cracow.
Lombardy has been invaded by the Aus
TRANS from the Tyrol. They had captured
Bormico.
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NOTICE,
- NOTICE.
FARMERS, MERCHANTS


FARMERS, MERCHANTS
IL AND OTHERS
IMPROVED CIDER AND WINE MILLS
HORSE POWERS AND THRASHERS.
WHEAT AND CORN FANS.
EmOry's and the Eagle Cotton Gins, &C.,
ID II e TO INFORM THOSE
Il In want OF the above machines, that am pre-
pared to furnish them strictly at manufacturers
prices-adding in some instances only, the cost
of transportation.
MY improved Wine and Cider Mills or presses,
Tor family use, is decidedly the most economical
and perfect Machine out. One man may grind
ana press from two to three barrels of Wine or
Cider per day.
WINE and Cider makers sre particularly inyi-
ted to examine them whether they purchase or
not.
Larger Mills or Presses also furnished
Those In want of Horse Powers, Thrashers, &c,
are assured that can supply them with any
kind required +-
liz connection with the above, | offer com
plete stock of Agricultural Goods, Bar Iron,
Axles, Springs, &C.
Landreth's Turnip and other small Seeds.
c. BILLUPS,
No. IL Wide Water Street,
Jyo Norfolk, Va
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MOURNING GOODS.
lust RECEIVED
- BLACK FARNESE.
Black blaine, double and single width
Black Berags "a and s-4 wide ml
Grape hlaretz n and "a WIDE
Famartne.
g Grenadine, "silk"
g Alpaca's, all qualities
Bombazines, all qualities.
Together with few Second Mourning Dress
Goods, in Lawn, Berages, Mozambique, Pop
Inns, &c.
All to be sold low for Cash.
Cali and examine at
- CAPPS & PEETS,
g No. rs Main street.
jy13 opposite Mechanics Hall,
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NOR SALE BY

EoR SALE BY
IL DAVIS d. BRO
22s Dbla No. n. o. Gut Hefrings,
so g Halifax Gibbed g
so I" g Gross ("
go =" Extra and Super. Flour,
go " New No. l Mackerel,
20 " Ext @, B, Crush'd & Pull Sugar,
$50 Reams Wrapping Paper, assorted sizes,
40 Caddies Cheap Tobacco, Is lbs each,
70 Bbls Brown Sugar,
Is Dozen Painte and Vanished Pals,
Cases Smoking Tobacco
10 Dozen Zinc and Wood Wash Boards and
variety of other things.
jyl1 No. "a Roanoke sqr., Norfolk Va.
COTTON GINS.
| am the authorized Agent for the sale of
EMERY'S AMERICAN UNIVERSAL
COTTON GIN,
Which is acknowledged to be the bes
GIN IN USE.
MY ARRANGEMENT WITH the
1Xl manufacturers are such, that am prepared
to furnish them on the best terms. Call and see
samples which have exhibition, or serd for
circular, with testimonials and price list.
All kinds of Agricultural Implements Horse
Powers, Thrashers, Fan Mills, Wine and Cider
Mills.
Iron of all kinds and sizes, Axles, Springs DC.
s. MARCH,
&c & 20 Water street,
Jyll-D2m-W3m Norfolk, Va
XyT A N TED
w 10000 AGENTS
Male and Female, from City and Country, to
Introduce into every City, Town and County in
the United States and Canada, a new
PATENTED ARTICLE, WORTH 1925
IN A FAMILY
EVERY FAMILY WANTS 1T
Agents, Male and Female, now operating, make
from $3.50 TO $500 per month.
No RISK BUSINESS LIGHT AND EASY
An Agent writes 81 cleared S11 in three
hours" Farmers, Mechanics, Clergymen, Teach
ers, Clerks Laborers--everybody having a few
STREET, or send two stamps for full particulars.
G. w. JACKSON & CO.,
jylO-d&wlm P.0. Box l348, Baltimore, Nd
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- The first conflict between the Italians
and Aastrains took place on Sunday. Are
Sunday battles to be SO frequent in the Old
World as they were in the New, during the
late war;
b%Five hundred bank clerks have been
thrown out Of employment by the recent bank
stoppages in England.
~The Madrid journals state that Admira
Mendez Nunez is to be created Marquis of Gal.
lao, for bravery in storming that city!
GrThe journeymen plasterers Of Memphis,
Tennessee, demand six dollars q day after the
10th Of July.
~Lindsey. the murderer of his child, the
Rochester Union says, has been a very ardent
Radical.
SThey have now in New York the Gin !.
junction" cocktail and the eCardozo' smash
~ Susan Wiedmann, young lady, and
highly respectable, committed suicide at Zieg.
lerville, Pa on Saturday last. No cause is
as signed for the rash act.
81 Losers by the recent fire in Pennsylyania
may be classed as unfortunate ex-iles
~Ex- Senator Mallory, late Confederate
Secretary OF War. has arrived at hIs home in
Florida.
An Illinois lady recently had both of her
lower limbs CIT of by reaping machine
- Brigham Young recently got into a pas
sion in regard TO Uncle Sans proposed mode
Of selecting jurors in Utah, swore fearfulIy,
and threatened to whip his uncle.
~The Cincinnati Commercial (Republi
cam thinks the Convention called by Randall,
DOolittle, Browning. Cowan and others, to
meet in Philadelphia on the 18th of August.
is like TO assume the proportions Of a political
event Of first class importance.
SA despatch to the Cincinn att G azette saws
that AT Memphis. on Sunday. colored woman
was allowed to kneel at the altar of Grace Epis
copal Church. between two whites and par
take of the sacrament from the same bread and
WINE. IL created, we are told, sensation
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Objection being made by Mr.. Edmunds. 4,


Mr.. Howe, from Committee on Commerce.
reported the Aooee bill declaratory Of aa act
entitled IN act authorixSng the Secretary OF
the Treasury to Issue registers TO vessels In
certain cases, approved February 10, isc6,
" hfch wos paesed.
The Tarif bin esue from the House. MI
Crimes moved % pestpene It's consideration
I'LL he drst Monday In December
Mr.. johnson presented . refnonstrsnce from
dealers In hardware and cutiery in Baltimore,
against the provisions Of the Tariff bill affect
ing their Interests. Referred to the Finance
Committee.
HousE-The motion pending yesterday at
the time of the adjournment, for the appoint
ment of committee to in vestigate why the
minority report OF the Reconstruction Com
miitee was not published with the evidence
taken by the majority report OF the same COM
mittee being taken up
Mr.. wasnburne, of III, moved to Law the mo-
ton on the liable, which WAS agreed to-yeas
81. nays %. -
On motion OF Mr.. Stevens, OF Pa, Commit
tee OF Conference was ordered on the disagree
ing votes Of the two Houses on the Lsegisla-
tive, Executive and judicial Appropriation
bill. 1
Mr.. Paine gave notice that he should de-
mand the previous question in the contested
election case OF Fuller VS.. Dawson, about ~
O'clock to-day.
The regular order of business-tbe consider
alton ofbills reported by the Post Once Com
mittee-was taken mp and occupied the re-
mainder Of the morning hour.
The contested election case OF Fuller VS..
Dawson was then taken mp, and M. Law
rense, Of Pa, proceeded TO address the House.
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STILL ANoTHER srARfLINo DEVELOP.

We hear that among the facts brought to
light by the blowing up Of that burglarious
concern. the Merchants National Bank Of this
city, is that of surreptitious and fraudulent
issue Of the stool of the Alexandra and Wash.
ington Railroad Company to the extent of
some three hundred thousand dollars. 1t is
stated that the president and secretary of the
company signed the certificates in blank. to be
issued legitimately by the con venient Huyck,
the treas urer, and that the latter filled them
up for enormous amounts, put his own re.
CURED signature to them, and SO disposed OF
them as that they could be used to enable the
l.. +. Bayne & Go. concern to raise money on
them in New York. where one house is said to
hold one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
OF them, on which they advanced one hun.
dred thousand dollars. OF course the rood is
responsible for every dollar Of this fr.ud-
ulentiy issued stock, as it bears the undis-
puted signatures Of its president, secretary
and treasurer. II ever there was case for
the stern action of the courts, this seems to be
one; and we know we speak the sentiments of
ninety mine persons in q hundred in asking
such action by the courts Of this District in
all the cases to grow ont Of these Merchants
National Bank transactions as will not only
duly punish those who have been chief actors
In the preparation OF the crimes, but will
serve as warning to all who assume the dis
charge OF financial trusts in this a arier that
they will be held to responsibility for auy
crimes committed through their alleged lack
OF due attention to the charge entrusted to
their care
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DIsTRIBurIoN OF PRxNIuMs.-The annual
distribution OF medals and premiums among
the pupils Of our public schools took place for
those Of the First District at Wesley Chapel,
n 4 O'Clock this afternoon. The schools OF the
headed by banners, &C. preseuiin1 1e e nrsss1
appearance. and after being seated in the
church they were addressed BY Hon. J. A.
0arnetd, Of Ohio, after which the distribunou
took place, MAYOR Wallach ofdciahng. The
following ts the list Of the premium scholars:
Medal Scholars MALE Grammar School
Clayt A. Hoover. Eema Grammar School
Mary i. Hill. Male ward
Hunt. Female Intermediate-Ma tiIda Ran.
Secondary Schools-No. !, Fannie McHenry:
Ne. 2, Benjaprn W. Brown; No. 4 Annie u
Clark; No. 4, Chas. ]. Wetzel; No. S, Mary q.
Blaekiston. Primary Schools-No. 1, Willie
81. Nash; No. 2, Annie E., seymour; No. q.
Mary Oliver; No. s, Sallie Childs; No. 6, I'd.
die Hood; No. Z, Felix Chism; No. s, jennie y.
Stewart. l4ra = :
Pvemsxms for tAe Best written Hssminoti.u.
4ab Grammar Schooa-yames L. HAnes.
Edward 4. Newman Wn. r. Tate. Fpmsic
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THE EUROPEAN NIWS.

The dispatches In reference to the news from
the seat Of war in Bohemia brought by the ST
David, are not very clear; but It seems there
nave been two engagements between the Aus
TRANS and Prussians-one near Turnau. and
the other near Skalitz, about fifty miles of, on
the borders Of Silesia. The fortunes Of war
seem TO have been equally distributed for in
the hrst-named battle the Prussiaus claim the
victory, and in the latter ian artillery and
cavalry engagement) the Austrian cavalry, il
is asserted, routed the Prussians We already
read OF the destruction OF railroad bridges
which was one of the features Of our late
destructive war
Ii will b remembered that the Saxonia
which arrived on Sunday last, brought intel.
ligence that the Hanoverian army was sur.
rounded BY the Prussians, and that q capitu.
lation within "a hours was expected. We are
still left in doubt a. to the fate of that army,
as not Q WORD Of intelligence in reference to it
has been received by the two last steamers.
Did il capItulate, or old 1t join the Austrian
forces ] Like Ledger story, the news ABRUPT.
ly broke on At the most exciting point, and LEFT
the fate OF the contestants undecided: and the
mystery Is yet unselved.
So Of the English crisis Earl Derby icon.
servative) Is TO head the Ministry and form
new Government but be has to work with in.
harmonious elements. and encounters dimcul-
ties in reconciling them However, the Persia
now due, viii probably bring the solution of
these problems
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1KGRATIrUDK.-This morning. a notor,ous
negro, cripple, but noted thief, who was
arrested by ofhcer Myles on suspicion OF hav.
ing stolen a large bundle Of clothing, &C.
winch ne was carrying 1t appears that after
DIS discharge from Jail be applied to eolored
man named Walker White, who keeps q little
shop on street, between e0th and 2ist Wash
ineton. for aid, and White, In pity, took MIN
into his house and fed and lodged him. THIS
morning nn, about O'CLOCK; the ungratefui scamp
clothing, shoes, a razor, smoking and che wing
tobacco, &c, which, assessed at the 10 west
prices, amounted to a grand larceny. These
articles were only part OF the goods found on
Davis, and though ne stands Committed for
court In this care he 10 retained at the station
until the remainder of the goods are identified
Davis Is crippled IN one foot and walks with a
crutch, but when pursued can make very fast
time. he was twice arrested fer larceny with
In the year but was dismissed in both cases
SCHOOL EXAMINATIONS. - Yesterday, the
Warren teacher, were examined by Ut. Kelly.
OF the Board Of Guardians, at the Western
school House. TO ascertain the progress they
have made during the year. The scholars ac-
highly complimented by the visitors present
As well as by the Guardians Of the Schoois
FLOUR AND GRAIN MARKIT.-Dun No
ons No rscesS OF Onr O 11, srs 2 cry
list unchanged.
TIE CANAL.-Arriyed-Bo Boats Mancher.
with ice; Capt J. Short, with wood: 4 STAN
hope, wood. TO marKet; Economy, wood to
Petit; Gee. MolsR. limestone, TO the kiins; and
twenty two boats, with coal, to Cumberland
Co. 2l to1z; Central Co, ss0-2 tons; American
shire asd Baltimore Co. Iii-s tons; Snox.
hight.
PoRI OF GEoReKrowN.-Entered -schoouer
Cleared-Schoouer Z. ID. Hart Law from AND
TO Boston, with merchandise.
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TRUsTHE's sALR.

: By virtue Of decree Of the Circuit Court. a. q
Court Of Equity. for MeptQonsay county, ma.
passed On the 10th day o. July. 1855. and ts ma
directed. will oder at public oalo. on f6URs.
DAT, the q day Of August, 1850 st n o'clock M
on the pIe0iees. tho farm end RHSIDRGCe on
TIE late br: Ben. Hedses. eAioining the isnds
Jeeeph II. Bradley, 1eQs
This fe,n = oeeuttfully end most sligibly cit.
patsd II the lover part Of Aoutgomery county.
LII. cnors distancs froa - D!sriss line, In
q Msssippston city p G. and II: s.as distance
nent, . large amount OF 5sfsiliSsss kssins Sscn
used to renoer tt preauqelvs The land lies s9usre
and 10 capable OF 1fSfSlea q two or DorS DSrts'
Al pa1 hevtne accees - .psblie roads. The
Dveline House contains elk rooms. well err
Ssnesa. asd coaDarattysly nSy; ali pecsssary cut
oaiioises. = gSed order. end 90 disposed ss %
apewer ser two foEDs e 3 acrso sach. sbund suely
RI sr soe. sHS go :sssSn e supply sas Sses
effscGsnc u vstns iron IN proxiniy 70 the ssst
Terms Of sale. ops-third Of tAs pursAs. money
IN hand; balanos IN eas. tve, 81 tkrss yseri,
ossrinl tnterests ed secured By nortsass On the
Ior further partiealars inquire Of ". \ H,sy
Sro,; e. tasssn, D. O., % 70 The sssssrissf.
3 ii.isvaIissea 3. 1T. HoDons. Trustee.
l500 .:ssss.ss ss1ss 9: LII. .s: 81 81
gsnniaisa usseianss. Is. lss StS g..
> " ~ 81 betvssa J - strsssA.
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fISANCIAL.-The activity in Governments
in New York Continues Al the Board yesser-
day s1,i o0,0o0 Of Five-twenties of 1885 was
sold at I05. Old Five-twenties advanced =
Ter -.orties were X lower. The Commercial
Advertiser Of yesterday afternoon says:-The
passage Of the Tariff Bill In the House with
such large majority has revived conndence
In the God Room that the bill wlil become q
law. There has consequently been an enlarged
demand from spectators, with q view 70
holding gold on the market 50 as TO sssqueeze''
the importer. A strong combustion has
been formed for that purpose. and a material
advance 10 predicted upon the strength OF
their operations. On the Other hand, there are
outstanding extensive ssshort" contracts, put
out upon the supposition that the Persia will
report higher prices for bonds. Gold 1t II a.
m, $50.
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REsIeNATIOA OF THE PosTnAsrrR Gen
IRAL

We apprehend there can oe no doubt what
ever of the truth OF the statement In this morn.
ing's papers thar Postmaster General Dennison
has rendered his resignation TO the President
Our belief IS that the demands Of his large
interests IN railroads and other matters in the
West, which must have suffered more or less
from his abstraction from them through the
devotion of his attention to the duties of his
once, Is perhaps a much the cs use Of the step
he has taken as his alleged indis pos ton longer
TO CO operate with the Pres'den; in carrying
out Tie views Of the latter upon the subject Of
the reorganization Of the Government. Mr..
Dennison has certainly made q most efficient
and serviceable Postmaster General, and ON
that score his retirement from the position
will be universally regretted by thoughtful
persons.
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THE REsIGNATION OF SECRETARY DEN.
NISON

ihe general impression seems to be as we 20
TO press that Assistant Postmaster General
Alex W. Randall will succeed to the Post
masser Generalship vacated by Mr.. Dennison.
We learn that the relations between Mr.. Ben.
nison and the President have been entirely
friendly. Mr.. Dennison was the president of
the convention which nominated President
Lincoln for second term, and he does mo-,
conceive 1t to be consistent with his political
views to eountenance the call for the PhiIa-
delphia convention. regarding the latter as in
antaGoHism to the Republican party as repre-.
sented in the Baltimore Convention of 1s6,
Runner has been busy to-day with other al.
leg'd Cabinet changes. but up to this writing
We do not IL arm that any of these reports have
been snbstantiated
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TEE PHILADELPHIA CONVENTION.

Hourly the importance of this approaching
assembly becomes more manifest. The radi-
calls OF Congress and the newspapers in afilia.
ton with them have fairly gone ssdaft'' over
the prospect that 1t will usher into being q new
organization destined to triumph at the polls
beyond per adventure. The call for q South
ern Unionist Convention 10 assemble at the
same point Is simply q concoctisn of Messrs.
Thad- Stevens L Co, designed, il possible, to
embarrass the other convention by discrediting
with the North) the pro. Union intentions of
whoever may be elected to it from the South.
While many of the latter will be persons who
took part in the rebellion. we do not believe a
single one Of them will 60 there with any other
purpose than that Of accepting in good faith
all the legitimate results of the war and seek
ing to reorganize the Government upon the
basis Of those results; which does not include
the sweeping destruction of all the distinctive
features of the Constitution as that existed be-
fore the rebellion, at which the radicals aim.
The connection OF the Tariff Bill now before
Congress by the radicals, whether they dare
make II law for the time being or not, strength
ems the proposed new organization beyond
measure. 1t insures for it the sympathy Of the
growing sentiment Of the West against being
made the virtual slaves of the small class or
Spectators in Copgression legislation, for
to be carried out. 1t also fixes irrevocably
against the radicals the entire commercial
interest of the great cities; and il causes the
substantial and well established manufacture.
ing interest of New England TO hesitate upon
the point of longer af.iliating with radical.
ism. on the ground that such legislation,
while it surely hastens the downfall of the
power OF the extremists, will leave it (the
New England manufacturing interest) 10 be
the scapegoat upon which popular ven .eince
will fall when that downfall comes, If it be
found identified with the party of Messrs Ste
yens, Sumner Il Co at that time.
On the whole, no party in this country was
ever ushered into being with half much
promise Of success as that about to be brought
forth al Philadelphia, for the country never
before had half as much reason to be heartily
sick and tired Of the mistakes and shortcom-
ings Of the Democracy during the war and the
radical party since the fail of Richmond.
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BLACK CATS AT THE CAUCUs

We hear tina: jealous but unlucky s.black
cal" who had secreted himself in the House
galleries hast night. doubtless hoping to get
early and exclusive information concerning
the doings Of the Republican caucus, was dis.
covered and ignom:niously elected before he
had opportunity to get a single point. Some
other sable grimalkin must have been
more fortunate, rs the do,ngs of the
caucus have got into pretty general cir
culation despite the injunctions to secrecy.
1t is stated that Hon. Henry J. Raymond indi.
Gated a disposition to cut loose from the Phil.
adelphia Convention. deeming 1t to have a
Democratic squint but failed to vote pro or CON
on q resolution offered to the effect tAat no
member o. either House should take mart in
that Convention. Mr.. Hale, OF New York. 8.
said to have been the only member Of the can =.
Gus voting in the negative on this ,esoaption