New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1866-06-05
Proceedings OF the Old. school Presby tcrian As.
sembiy-Eie,enfh Dny-More Proiests-An-
other Kentacky OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES
Speech by DIR. Van Dyke-Ansther Cemprs.
mise Offered.

other kentacky Complicaton-stirrtni
speech by DIR. Van Dyke-Ansther Cemprs
mise Offered.
/ From Our Special Correspondent. - 800
ST. LOUIS, May 80 1866.
The contest between loyalty and disloyay is still il
progress. Dr. Humphreys wel-neanng but mistaken
attempt TO bring about compromise by referring the sub
ject the General Assembly meets with favor only
from handful of Conservatives who unprepared 70
stand the charge Of disloyaty hereafter.
Dr. Brooks of st. Louis took notes yesterday OF Dr.
Humphreys remarks and is understood TO be ready to
reply him in defense of the Declaration aud Testimony
movement.
1t seems as if Louisville and Kentucky able to fur
nsh any amount Of contention to the Assembly as to-day
another case came from the Committee on Bills and Over
lures involving the question Of loyalty and disoyaty'
The case as presented BY the Committee IL as follows:
The Committee Of Bills and OyeItures, TO whom were re-
ferred the petitions and memorials Benjamin r. Avery ID
ing Elders in the Wanus Church in Louisville praying for
such redress as in wisdom Of the General Assembly
Church as set forth in said memorial and petition report
they have considered the matter referred to- and would recon-
TIeas On the second day Of Jsnssry last McNaushn Ben
jamn Avery and James A. Lesh were duly elected ruling elders
' D. MeNsgh,on Bep,mn F. Avery aud James A. Leeeh
bhe the Prebyie Of ousye after the election Of sad elders
pe.byery, notwithstanding he bad
y anS ] It eH ti that the peace Of said Church and thr
congregational rights in great danger unless this Assembly shall IN
Therefore General Assembly by virtue Oft, authority and OBJ
hereby the .ai D. Benjamin Avery
aud James Lech to be tecon1ed aud .,
jet under this Assembly oemny enjoinsd to
II appears furiher that the Presbytery declined to
recognize the said elders because they elected under
a call from the session while was pending before the
Presbyery in relation to the matter 1t has trans
pired also that the affairs of the church are before the
Civil Courts of Kentucky undergoing investigations Dr
Van DYKE was certain the election Illegal He
said that the meeting at which they claimed TO be
elected was held in the street and not in the church. This
denied by SEVERAL and finally the recommendation OF
the Committee was adopted.
The friend Of our errng Southern brethren Dr.
Van Dyke could not allow the day pass without eating
but notice of resolution he intended to oler when the
Freedmens Committee report comes up His resolutions
as follows:
Whsrea The Assemby Committee Freedmen BY virtue
OF authority derived from military commander Of the United
States did take possession OF the church edihce belonging to
Zion Presbyterian Church In Charleston c. and hold the
the OF this Assembly, and nh,as The grounds
upon which the claims of said Committee to the control OF the
Aforesaid church property urged recognized before
the military tribunal by the aokno vedgment OF the
Secretary Of the Committee misapprehension OF the facts IN
Rosor,d That the Assembly regret the into which the
zeal OF the Committee on freedmen mas ed them ID tss IN
said and the evil consequences 1t is calculated TO
Rovs That IN prosecution Of the great work Of
geng the negro population OF the Southern states this AS
rights Of sny individual OF church States. any
dspaage the wisdom aud zeal OF those Christian
work and TO whose fidelity and success the General Assembly
has borne explicit testimony.
advocacy the reports of the Committee and occupied
the balance Of the morning session and part Of the after
d. Van DYKE took the floor in opposition the report
Of the Committee and made the abest speech yet made
upon his side OF the house. He referred to sermon
preached by MIN IN 1861 which had been partly quoted by
Judge Clarke and said he stood by every uerance IN 1t on
the subject Of obedience the powers that be- Under TINS
uspraion he had sc'ei during the last five years even
hal do e fhiura heart
had felt be wrong II he had lived IN the South ne
would have submitted To the Government IN existence on
the same principle Now he meant TO stay IN the church.
and any body who said ANYTHING 10 the contrary dd nm
wrong. He read further from the sermon mentioned,
and tried TO show that he had taught loyal!
and brotherly love from the first. The fact that
100000 men in their graves was no
argument for him. lie thought blood enough had been
smiled already and he honored and loved his brethren in
the South lie reviewed the acts Of the General Assem-
bv since 1861 and said before that the Presbyterian
Church regarded as the embodiment OF con-
servatism, and the would be thought fool who
would ask General Assembly to express an opinion Oh
the Constitution Of the United States He read the action
the Assembly Of 1915, declaring that the Church had
the right only 10 regulate moral aud spiritual matters ana
had nothing 20 do with the secular concerns OF church
members This was the platform until lsol
when with one breath of Southern brethren were
stricken from the rolls. During ali the time spent In this
nd ons With scotland and another with the New School
Church-he hadn't heard word of kindness for our SOUTH
ern brethren He held the dellyerance OF 1909 and all
the preceding acts which they were based 10 De TePug
Louisville in refusing TO obey them They were not
guilty of rebellion because there consu
tutonal law they had violated. He charged that
the of 1861 passed under coercion and threats
mob law and wanted 10 know why the men lish in the
church who protested against those acts had not been
touched By the subsequent General Assemblies Their
oense was than that OF the Louisville PresDytery
He believed in the Scrpura doctrine Of obeying the pow
ers that be- but the Assembly had undertaken to say VINO
the powers that be are On this point he dwelt at length
DENYING that there was any Bible authority Tor SETTING
disputed allegiance. The whole matter was political ana
was 50 designed and intended In proof OF TINS he ced
the fact that the deliverance OF 1904 had been
circulated as a Republican campaign document lhere
were men in the Church who held the doctrine OF state
rights handed down them by their fathers. lie had
no opinion on that subject but they had as much night
10 their opinions others 10 theirs. lhe Assembly OF
1865 which when the war was over instead oil pour
ing oil on the troubled waters had exhibited an anti
Christian spirit OF persecution He believed that the
punishment Of the Louisville Presbytey was also parual
because men in other Presbyteres held the same views
and refused to carry out the deyerances OF iooo II Nas
wrong TO punish in section for doing what Others
we're doing UNPUBLISHED in another section lie thought
the enforcement Of the rules Of 1865 mpracticsble
In reply to question, Dr. Van DYKE sad ne neneyed
any Pfesbytery had night 10 withhold its contributions
from the Boards and Missions of the Church. and ne also
opposed the resolutions offered by Dr. Humphrey because
they were inconsistent in censurng the Louisvne ris
bytary He wanted the church united as ngnt. Ills
snehch occupied about an hour and half and was listened
10 with marked attention. 1t was an able effort.
DIR Gurley then offered substitute for the Committee
report proposing TO refer the case oi ,he "a
next General Assembly, and meanwhile to suspend all the
pr yeges and functions OF the members OF the onendg
Pesbytey lie explained that his object was to remove
all doubts as to the regularity OF the Proceedgs py serv
them answer before the next General Assembly lie said
he thought their oense aggravated but the Churchwoud
suffer harm by waiting ., N 1v., h
There 10 anxiety 10 hnlsh INC o"se III "o'' nus
the floor for Tomorrow
THE NEW CHURCH.