New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1866-07-20

As we have admitted then teuporary-f0r the sake OF
n arument-thaI shall not produce as much IN the
I1 es in tho TIN hour system It is fair 20 claim that
these Two poats snail not be mixedttat ono sha oe az
rued first and that take the affirmative IN me &C
bate We have night 20 take whichever We please M.
When men argue, II is sometimes hece'-a! lJl & IN
commence upon some ground upon which u!e! -" w.
stand and here Is an instance. li or
Probably We can both agree that whether Wages Nib
will not be increased is one question, and wnethcI 49,,
will or VII not be increased is another " neod a.
which satisfies our minds that wealth VIII be ncIensou -
81 part the argument which cnyinces us tiiat s,an
be increased bv reducing the hours Of labor S
in q reduction Of working hours, the greater is'e u f
wages are increased But we have no very
I'm dwelling upon he simple addition to nauo1 OF COM
munity little wealth eorsd9rhs ~ "e az -, 1919
oyersiadowing question OF a more a. AaI -
D,srpmIfos not Production, Is the bardn OF our son
for he people that become wise encuf 10 conquer me n
problem VIII master the second %io1 ts, ~ "a P'V' '
starved and hated 1eOrmers ana aRll"'ois'
BON FIVE hundiei years too soon
Tn 90 increase wealth may the question which
wealthy men would most ike 70 hear answered because l!
know that only Increases their power bit how snal we
40 divide wealth that it shall stay divided question III
which they are not so much interested. ,...
Our claim that Weges can only be increased by e
Hours Of Labor more equal distribution OF Weui
prefer state 10 that because the hrtt irde
ton the peole viii receive OF this great unh W" % " "0
The difference between the two ways CT stating this may Dc
compared difference between tie child Horfce Oieeey
OF 50 years ago, and the giant Horace Greeley OF to-day
The slight Increase 4 wages for mere day ao3r Nc9 WI
show Itself in the Eghonr system will be the baby hgure
of the giant II things to come at last
The increase ia wages will be gradual to arrest tho a.
tenton OF the workers themselves even as mass ias
have title comprehension q that fact fr long uhe as
of the fact that today the material com
than they 20 years Many of them Wond uspe
tins even if you should remind them Of TIE fact one ahns
however will be observed BY the most 81 isem ss wagf
have back-that they were nor reaaea icy W.
the that they get their hours OF labor reduced wnou
reduction ofwages upon the same theory adopted Dy tCss
moi reduced when the 1en.Hour system w, was
M DRIVING a
anv less paw and they obliged TO come 20 H. &c Ihs 3
PLANTATION amounts TO noihne OF course nls . S frr
ojne Sg however is as much tbe employers power
az 70 bs Fritour system partly because they in
stinolivy that rate they have go 10 Ply as s
them that less work viii DO done they oppose TIE change
II the majority Of workmen eoul see ms s' 'esIy as INC
would soon be made The employers put the case thus II
your reduced you eanuoi 90 as uch "oA anu your
pay will be reduced II tls Neie w. VIA n, i1
they 10 spend millions Of dollars g u tb change lhy VIZ
receive less work end Nih ray less ~ass nSy arc ~
afraid that they viii no. be able 70 reduce tn' Pay en1 %
ttv are really corr hGs not made The philosophy
alv know thing, mat certain IePIeseIta''No
which they cannot be brought GoNn rs ,aaay as
the Of labor may be reduced Is'e Is LoneItDL
hoard for those without families lou meat So Is tie meie
fnct that men thcr - insead Of going TO
Suppose their pay So 80 days according to
logo Of those who oppose us twenty per cent must DO
each Employers understand perfectly tDst no suen re-
duction hall dollar day can thus afbfarb be made III
Commercial system Nor are they conscious any deliberate
Of The consequences. They spend
but very little considering the subject II Snt iier
function and satisfy popnar cnmor Ion uDleaT
OF privileges They can't stop 20 Try Hsora reriments
fnanoler reormer upon the same stem would be an
exotic 10 social system. 100.
Tie theory demo sraies the mrofsibty Of rdFeaS
wages By SIMPLY reducing the hours Of abo he sane sub
sieniiay wieh shows That wages are ny y
ton namely, that eight hours means more in'ead OF less
wages or the glorious OF more equal dstrihu
ton wealth Remember also thar we coneede yo ne is
bang oH tbat much VIII not DC produced ID en m III zen
Narrowed down TO the single proposition Aforesaid
divide into and argue the first one ist-'z that
more time o. leisure for the worAingdsses viii royoluonze
their habits customs tastes feelings Of living
&C. &C. Having demonstrated this 1t viii be very eay 10
SSsIh 9 proGeed and tie busiaess II producing II dnay
melt back into the hands II he great liOdhg elssses
and the class BOW Known exclusively and the class
cali capitalists are to disappear as such and at.rs
he tie millennium Cf labor form, and toe bare contemplation
~ be vast morel and social possible /. the
soni with wonder aud delight While il such Il
oiety PeabOdy AstoIs Stewards aud kohscds Hn DO
makes such commercial lords possible viii be enjoyed for
nober grander As fnancleIs simply then oecuPi
w simpf beyond measure q the prediction Of
wealth while AL in the language Of Car sehnrA S l ready
to engage peaceful discussion II our moral AID social
Int we are calling upon who DO believe In any
such future for mankind Oh ye OF little intl The most
al Of al skepticiyn that which stamps visionary the
dofIS e sai sI % the ccesnt Of ali ns ia he
who viii not do anything because Of his little faith but
H.u,nos again to So H. & Of of% o proposition that
for TIE workers viii reverton,Te ter habits wass
efaI Rnf k 30 i eS Hsf re S
most men have give 10 tie question, whether they
trade or work This must be taught by example The Ma
tona Government must Try the experiment in It's
and Arsensls suggested last letter How
prevail upon the try the experiment by first
eSns. Il IN the power Of THE NEW YoRsaBusR in.
duce the Government to Try the experiments and 1t wn use
its power shen IL Is convinced, and not before
SO thoroughly satisfied Of the soundne OF our con
oqsions that wag that the experiment should be
tried upon conditions which shell subject our theory TO the
seyeest test The Government 10 those who manage
its Navy Yards and Arsens Here Is 50 much work 10 be
DONE and the money TO pay of ~ Is ienuy az usual you
NAV pay low wages possible provided you pay enough TO
SECURE e Spop any sss Eight
dsy Eight Hours sra De he national STANDARD or
10 tpuate that al shall understand that the system 10 gong
to have most thorough tra OF i've years soy or longer
actions cannot be decided In IL takes time
70 anchor custom and to prejudice indeed
10 submit 10 the rigid and hnmlaing conditions for the
the Government could be induced to make liberal
pertinent aud say 10 its sgens ADOPT the seven hour
tem and determine the compensation according to the pres
emf method Tie Government Is supposed pay the
rates paid for the quality and quantity Of work done for
outside parties The most liberal experiment would. indeed
labor under the sort Of Disadvantages that oil experiments
have when conducted in opposition 70 NE opinions and esi96
Cay Others at the South attempted to illustrate the
economy Of paid unpaid labor they did under dssd
ant indeed remember tsat the popular prejudice against
scientific and labor saving Inventions has so far disappeared
that day experiments made In ths country In aerial naT
cation IN type setting machinery. for instance
Quoted without suecng the pppretos inventors TO the
personal violence which would have been their had they
lived in the times Of Hareyeaycs and Arkwright.
Bot while have grown bospabe 10 novelties In he arts
and have reached the point where
ready accept all the consequences II mOrs prn
epe In skiDg for National trial Of ideas col
the dread the Yang classes have Of touching great social
aud material problem. which, solved. ry f9Solltjop4
their position and power We near ;aefefre to give fair
notice that we expect the embarrassment In measure
that always attended any experiments especiar sse
popular Advantages merely are concerned Novsheoss we
hs uve enough 20 suggest the eIPedecy Of still further
nluction In ib- L.,-rs Qtiab0r