New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1866-09-21


in which have hitherto endeayored 20 explain
and enforce them. Cheersl The question will be best
and most fairly judged by the people OF this country in pro-
portion as detached from every personal consideration
Hear hear The weight Of public opinion the weight ana
yaue Of all its Indications would be dispaaged If 1t could
with Justice be said that the ministers who have been poti
cay overthrow were using their personal endeayors 70 m
fame the public mind Hear, hear. L TO you that
think we done part so far lay in our power The
in The walls Of Parliament lies with the people country
am satisfied TO abide their verdict believe them 70 DC
competent Judges Of their interests II is for them 1t is
every intelligent man in every rank OF the TO
consider his conscience what course he sha take WIN
respect TO H. aggregate result Of the e1erons Of ind
ydua that which viii give form to the expression OF pubic
opinion With you gentlemen Tor me you az
handling Of this great question Hes hen the time LOT pa
menary exertion comes rely upon nat II you H I'VE %
The MAYOR aerward addressed the meeting and three
having again been given for Mr. Gladstone MIS- dad
MR.. ROEBUCK AT SHEFFIELD.
On the 9th inst. Mr. Roebuck, who guest OF the
FORFEIT Feast Of the Sheffield Cutters Company in replying
to the toast Of the Borough Members thus spoke on the
question of Parliamentary Reform: Was there need or
necessity for Reform bill And II there were was pac
there was a need for a Reform BIZ and 1 will say, in
answer to second that with good judgment could have
there was a need OF Reform bill aud then will ask what
the circumstances that enabled u 70 De pacucaDe 70
House Of Commons rendered Reform bill necessary
answer boldly to that question 10 CeeeTs say tnS'
lCheers (Ar. Dun" Totnes. stop moment MT Dunn
win answer You about TONES Loud cheers ana
Fair playrJ Don't for Heavens sake, let any differ.
Of opinion enter into this assembly Applause tmhA
vergng upon anything that ought 70 be Kept back
/" Hear hear and applause am merely calmly s ,i
%hp DeE Ro 70 nc Mn n Mt punp viii only conne him
self--cheers and voice" He interrupted you'll NO don
saw word could only conne the ebuhent spfit that
belongs bin, have no douot that we shall get on quietly
Laughter and cheers i was asking why was that the
House Of Commons needed Reor eSo o % osse Of CoI
mons the produce OF the Reform bill Of e has run race
OF legislation unexampled in the annals OF me World
situation which required Reform Reform was gwen
and What dd they oo o ny be an1a. Of ESg,pd the
stain Of slavery Cheers They then relieved TIE mqniei
pal government Of this country from narrow ght h NS
say corrupt naturalization and they threw hto Tue hau
Of the people llIear They then went forward and .y
made code of laws that was the most sanguha 10 .e
world the least sangunary ana the most meteiu tna Wv
world knows; and last Of all dor won't mention many othf
good deeds they freed and they made the people
Of England commandments Of their power ana ther wealth 70
all p0Tis Of the world Hear bear Ana TINS was Iohe
under Reform bill OF sJ2 but viii state In one short
phrase the result Of their actou-ha every in In
gland might say what be thought and might do what he
he was KS freS.t man that walked upon the surface
Of the globe. Then, say. there Is no default OF the
House Of Commons that rendered reform necessary viii
presently state what the circumstances were which rendered
reform necessary; but am now stating what was not Inc
BODY 10 be represented Now, look with sort OF con.
lemptuous pity upon man who uses that language Right
WHAT the meaning OF right Right IN one sense Is the
creature oflaw Right Is opposed TO wrong. Wei they
that let us inquire II u be the Interest OF TIE people OF
aided by stating that there was any natural gt on te part
Of anybody TO have the power OF voting But SIR pass by
and there be natural right the part Of anybody 20 have
the power Of vOungwhat Is Il that makes me say that
England Ii Is this IL not enough that should have
Justice Justice justice unless the people think II be
England who have not the
voting but who have the faculties and the capacity Capacity
and therefore for the purpose Of PGne asde discomfort
would have brought In Reform bill that should have satisfied
of
educated OF tho working classes Of the country The work
Iencd under that tern PERSONS Of very dsTcat qualities.
There working men TO whom respect They
wen TO their families they do their duty IN that station
which has pleased God 70 call them they every
the respect and confederation Of their fellow
Hear hear But there others In that class 90 whom
do not pGy any respect apPhus hey are fractions tssy
drunkeni they beat Their wives they III ieat the Gnu
den; they don't do their duty men ought TO do Applause
Now suppose Sir u VIII be ald that am an euey o ,he
Working classes the wetodo the wccoudoned u those
hail As equal with myself and worthy Of every consideration
But viii cOndescond TO Halter TIE dIuhksd OF 20 g
power those who totally incompetent 70 use " ven
lCheers Therefore say Sir IN any considered reform
bill care would have been taAeh 20 sePalaso taoe Id
one frouhe and that whatever power VOC conceded
NV ~ ods bat that thew would have taken some Of
separating the good men from the bad am29g tLem, AP
Tain time In the House OF Commons before my painful Illness
drove me out House, but what Was tho result WHY
porting il, because found bill which 10 fact an At
tempt TO cajole House Of Commons lApphuse There
things that really Decessayhe one 70 enlarge
the suffrage the other tOreguate the towns 70 when hh SUI
feage should be given and when II was inquired WY he were
II we BRING in b 10 affect the Distribution oi seas Ae
shah give ofeuse 70 certain meMo,r,, ana tay 10Y
gnlae the elective franchise they viii vote f Us and we
I'M csrrv tbat measure Cries OF Hear hear" and
voice o. non Oh moi like that gentleman who says
"Ob mo-" / was IN the midst Of 70. heard II SAID
know II was fct and know that that the reason Why
The two measures were separated and that
PEELED 70 fight the battle Of the Administration upon
wrong pobt Well they have brought their double bill and
theu at |
mons What took pldcet Why, at hst MI limestone lor
whom have every admiration far regards BIS talents
but he is far too cleyer-augher aud cheersl-Mr Glad
stone endeayored Of all TO caoc the House Of Com
monsbe endeayored 20 persuade them TO pass BIS single
bill and when he could nj do that be endelyored 10 bully
them. Now the House Of Commons is such an assembly
have known them for many years-that To- coo,e thcn
would be very difficult but bully them impossible lChecs
He assumed both aud be failed In boh aud Len at last
he threw his cargo overheard He sought the nearest hafbor
Of REORGANIZATION Well Sir, that my story Of the Ras
se-Clsdsione Reform bill {" And yeIy good one he
attempt first clolo the House OF Comon ana sec
ond 10 bully them. Hear hear They failed IN ooth and ost
their bin their places Looking at The allure what shall
there from power ofther own They there In spite u
themselves and 1t is dnty 10 give them fair trial Hear
fair taL ICbeers and cries Of Bravo" believe the re-
suit will be thishat the two great parties nov dividing Tie
State will DO united into Hear hearI Ihee Is Ieay
no difference the two except some email rays OF big
ory intolerance that stick unwingy to them Cheer
Let them get rid OF them Let ihem thioW o'f f
talk about churchraies. the tax abGat the Uner'
ste and they will do T. ana We tae Liberals s '.s mod
Ministerial power England that VIII enable rs TO main.
the power England throughout MoIlu tnht VIII
make her feared by her enemies and loved by her friends
and the protecting power people. lCheeTsl |
am sure that will take place am sure that Lord Derby will
disappear hope that Lord Russell Will disappear eheers
and augber and that other men viii rise up IN the places
representing united feeling Of England and that then
shall be enabled preserve the people Of England from tho
control Of ignorance and vice cheers WIN when we are now
threatened cheers and in spite Of al the demngognes IN the
world the people Of England viii ride triumphant Ihe honor
able member resumed his seat amid loud and prolonged ana
repeated cheers
Mr.. GLADSTONE, THE TORY CABINET AND REFORM
MI Gladstone had been presented WIN an address while on
Salisbury. In returning thanks DO SAID that although
the Reform bill Of last session rejected the question was
not likely 10 remain abeyance II the present Government
brought good measure urged IFS cordial acceptance
EyEORI OF GnLD TIE LNLILD hLAIL2.