The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-07-03

nos aHempe 70 follow suoh an example 4 repeat thSn
% weaken every govern thai sta ON these b.nche
unsn sae matter is fairly settled-to create excsues
uss. Il sxsew the county and 70 AFFORD opgo
menta principles which had better be left aons IN tbis
Country. ana why should not the question be seedy
because tue noble lord has imported this House
.sroposton from the county OF Galway (cheers and
"Sh, Oh l'l-a proposition that Is utterly foreign 70
everything that has existed in England and Wales ON
thisqIeston, and which Is utterly unknown and ror
which there can be no foundation found in tho king
dom OF scotland. Naughterl Now, ask honorable
members in nj sincerity whether 1t Is worth their Wills
TO take course which viii enangle In so many die
fcutes the whole OF which they cannot al the
present moment wsil comprohend-wheher Il woaid mot
be better frankly to accept this bill fHear hear spA
"oh, oh Ilto give 70 the people Of England Assn
rance OF their confidence In them and 70 do az acb os
generosity by them. believe that there neye was any
thing more wise on the part OF a monarch or on the
part OF parliament than 70 place confidence in he
people for whom they called upon TO legissts And
from what we know OF the people Of England aad or
their great and good qualities which no one hero WIN
wish to depreciate will undertake to say that you
will treat them with generosity aud justice now they wm
make ample return by rendering obedience 20 the
law and loyalty to the Crown CThs honorable menbsy
resumed his seat amid loud and prolonged cheers
~, r "o o. az ,h e r n aaasossec .he hoaxs
cries Of "Spoke" and "Orer) saidI need hardly a.
the Committee that am not here claiming the
privilege Of reply, or intending to traverse the As4
which this debate has ranged but one
servaton which fell from the honorable and gen.
tleman the member for Belfast which absolutely calin
for notice and explanation from me. He entirety
and rather grossiy-though OF course unntenuonaIiy-
debate alleging that had declared that we wouil
not entertain any change OF any kind in aay
mcnt he founded denunciatlon OF the unbecoming
and improper conduct OF the government. I did nsk
fssOh on III But az the point is OF consequence ana
matter OF feeling will revert 70 what aid
state and viii tell the House exactly how the matter
perfectly right IN stating that this bill Ia tho carrying
Of which depends on tho House. and not on the
ment thear bear and we subscribe 10 that not only
fact, but principle think however the hoaorA-
bic gentleman will be also Of opinion that the matter In
upon which the entitled TO entertNA
their convictions 10 form their Intentions ana
to take the which they think for their honey
and the advantage OF the country, and 70 do
cline TO take any other Hear hear, What did u
the commencement Of this debate following the speech
ton between the political part Of tho subject and the
practical partthe political portion relating TO the
amount Of enfanchisement contemplated by the gov.
eminent under this clause and tho practical portion
latng TO the subject of ratable value. with regard 70
the political part stated that the government could not
be brought 10 curailncn OF the Mt Of enfrancse~
ment moderate they considered H. which they haA
proposed in the bill az II stands With regard to the
practical part certainly did endeavor like noble
friend, to handle question entirely apart from the
politics Of the bill. and from the general otgccts
10 say having heard the debate that entirely failed IA
that object do not retract or modify word that
the speakers on the amendment or the amendment
itsof speak In diaerent terms do not say that mN
snw = mot az 70 n se any o,
the ooure which has been taken Is TO make Of this
amendment for the purpose OF raising the standard Of
enfranchisement and limiting the amount which the
government think necessary am entitled, therefore,
70 look TO the effect Of the amendment and say that
~ IN my Judgment amendment striking a the plan Of
entranchsemsn proposed by the government So Wow.
Ing IT, cannot enter into any engagement that will
accept an adverse VOTE regard otherwse than
compatible with the progress Of the BILL Checrs.l
THE DIVISION, AND DEFEAT OF THE oARrNEr.
The CHAIRMAN then put the question in this FORM thas
clause the object Of the amendment beng 10 omit these
words With the view OF inserting 'ratable yaue; and
the Committee divided.
As the time approached when the arrival Of the ten.
s,s was expected great excitement prevailed which
sun more intensified when the numbers being
s.wn by the clerk At the table The handing Of
tne paper '" fcrd Dunken--an Indication that The i,
smesane a nsa ..sn oarried-was the signal for
Hats were waved not nom az, al parts Ss NE h H
occupants Of the Strangers Gac, 'mSe5a while ~:
course Of procedure may merit roprobai.S"wers car
red away BY their feelings and Gned in
stored the numbers were declared as follows
For the amendment SIS
Against IT, SoA
Majority against the government. .............H
On the announcement OF the numbers the cheering was
renewed and lasted for time being repeated whsA
the Chairman declared the result OF the division.
The CHAIRMAN then put the question that the wosa
'ratiEg" be inserted 10 the clause
Mr. AvRros moved that the Chairman do report pSs-
gross. Laughter and cries Of NO. NON
Tho CHAIRMAN, apparently under the IMPRESSION thsg
motion for report ng progress was not about to q
was proceeding with the prior question to the
Mr.. AYRros again and ssid:-T apprehend str
that after the statement which made by tho Chsa,
ceoI Of the Exchequer At the commencement We have
no other course but 70 report progress Nc, no." and
"Agreed"i Therefore move that you do report pro
The CHAIRMAN hen put the question that he do report
progress.
The motion was agreed TO- and the House resumed.
On the Speaker taking the chair questions ASKED
by various honorable gentlemen the govern
nent would state what course they intended TO pursue
Afer the excitement and confusion which universally
had Subeded.
The CHANCELLOR or rn FHcnxorsR said that he wouiA
state this day Tuesday, the which the govern
CABINET STATEMENTS.
In The House OF Lords, Juno TO- Earl Rrsssi-Ths
lrst order Of the. day having been read wish -
hat relating 70 the Princess Mary os(Canbrdge's Aa.
naity bill As that concerning the welfare q
erfere with the progress Of that bill which hope ycus
r 1sa y W. gs;. srSSsh all !, stages esr hssrl
ministers have taken what took place 10 the House oS
last night into their serious consideration ana
N.Y. as,s s thought necessary 70 conmnnes % hs
ore Immediately after we have dealt with the bill w.
which ] have referred, move that your Icrdships az
The Princess Mary Of Cambridge Annuity btu We
hen read a second time, passed through committees
In the House OF Commons tho same night the Cray
FLOR or IHs Excreorss, who, on rising was loudly
% carly hour ihls morning, the Cabinet assembled
lay They took into their consideration the nature af
ause 81 the Reform bi They likowiss into thsfv
consideration the nature Of the debate BIZ which thas
o'e was preceded and may add the character Of the
divisions and discussions which he'd marked the previ.
ls history OF tho bill The result was that they foqrA
their duty 70 make communication 70 her Mgjestys
y, under pr,eqi eLreggs2nees ne Hone win s.
tfrc Thai sdch comrrIc siloFa fahnot be conductaX
'ltnolt Tue hpso OF some little time do think vs
9ula De y condition to safe The result Of tina. comnu
alton TO the House In less than three or four my
me very least Ian honorable Member-'tOh oh fnt-
III consequently shan propose motion which hops
VI meet the approval OF honorable memhers-thal ,kS
louise a. vs. rising shall ADJOURN 70 Monday nexs
.hseNl Ipe v.psi pot On VII be made thRt commit
.es have leave "a cit Notwithstanding tho adiournsns
ihe Houses aud shall also propose that the orders a.
le Gay DC rad, With view 10 Their loslponemene
ith REGARD 70 the notices Of motion appearing on ha
'per Tor to-day, can 0nly trust tha, the state o.
'eyance IN which tho functions OF the executive goy.
nnen' are placed until the te have nan az gentle.