New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1866-05-10
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they right and bad acted on that belief
Mr.. RAYMOND was the next speaker He expressed biz
qualification at the Reconstruction Committee having Sub
mtted their scheme WHOLE and illustrated the danger
Of submitting only portion at time by reference to
the Of the British Ministry on the Reform
bill the Ministry having commenced the session with
clear majority of 60 which majority had dwindled down TO
five because the Ministry persisted in bringing forvara
only one portion OF the reform scheme He Expressed
his belief that all States 10 be affected by the proposed
measure should be represented but he did not hold II 10 10
essential 10 the validity of Congressional action on cons-
Still these amendments II adopted by Congress, were e.
he submitted to all the States affected by them North All
South. He quite willing to take action upon b'n
here for the purpose of sending them to the several Ss
With one exception the propositions were such a. be ~
proved. The first reassered the principles OF the CYL
Rights BILL which he had favored thoroughly and hearty,
The second proposition had also been before the House ter
It's action but IN form In which he could not then Sup.
port ia form recognizing BY implication the nSDt II
each State 10 dsiranchise pOruon Vi W
citizens on account Of color In The present fo'o,
however be could and would support IT, Ihe tllrd se't'n
of entirely different character The amendm.rs
recognized the IL lately Rebel States as slafs
within the Union. II did not confer upon them any ihe
OF representation but simply recognized IT, iim'nftr'
right suffrage, and excluding portion OF the p.ol.
the doctrine of territory" the doctrine OF conquered
provinces the doctrine Of "alien enemies 30 fai 4
had his most hearty appreciation; but II proposed I'D
exclude the great body OF the people of the III States from
the right of suffrage, and to that he was opposed tes
gentleman from Maine Baine) had made the point yesei
day that thus DISTINGUISHING the large body OF the Soahen
people would counter 10 the terms OF tho amnesty
proclamation which restored all belOws certain class I'D
the exercise Of their civil rights He thought there VAS
great force in the objection But there still gfeser
force in the objection that IL would be RETROACTIVE ad
woald retraet from the plain understanding had do,g
the whole course of the War. BY resolutions OF Con-
gress and by proclemaOns of the President the peopeot
the southern States had been given to understand
that when they laid down their they would 90 re-
stored 10 their rights IL was not pleasant spectacle
great nation shrinking from the performance OF rs
pledges he knew TOO mat the charge ~oaa ue p's
dental election and he did not want to be placed ID o-
sition wherein be would be compelled to coneedo ,o
charges The eagerness with which the distinguished
gentleman Pennsylvania SteveDs) had acceded tho
other day to what he supposed he faymond) had s"Y-
gested in reference TO Cen Grant being the candidate
The Union party in 1863 gave him raymond the host
heartfelt that there would be no dissent IN ire
party that subject when the right time should come;
bat he Raymond did not think d IT Necessary, Ss 5a "s
amendment should be inserted the Constitution "
Gen Grant should be the candidate Of the Union party ~
of the country at large wherever people were found nto
could appreciate courage on the field, magnanm-
ity in the honr OF victory, and modernism
in political action, there would be fouNd
men who would appreciate him as candidate for any
Office which the American people might have to besto~
Reverng consideration of the third section, Mr. Ray
vent the sdopon Of any of the amendments. He wovt
say that he suspected that 10 have been the motive,
but he thought that would be its effect and that every nan
must that the adoption Of the amendments by a.
Southern State made condition OF its people beng
allow ed elect members OF Congress and TO have thoa
elected. The question would have TO be acted on ny to
State Legislature or convention the members of wbrh
would be elected by disloya well loyal votes si
Who supposed that such Legislature would disfnchse rs
members The thing was worse than sham. IL ~ns
amockey. No Southern State would ratify single c'e
# the amendments. Their people would be fools If h'y
did, and whatever else they might have been they WOO
not fools For his part he would not mock The
The gentleman from Ohio schenck had spoken yesterday
about treating them he would treat an Offending child
thresh him and put him into corner, and let nun po"s
and get at his leisure. That might be very well
they he people the South would consent to be treated
idrcu
North standing in loco parents toward them' my
to be dealt with wisely They were to be our feow-
the whole principle lying the base Of the Government
were discarded it necessary that they should 70
treated as friends not as enemies The history OF reso
cguld not be eoeced into fiendness As to the fosh
section of the amendment repudatng the Rebel debt he
once sS U sS s: s1ou vos for mao sg.n The fas
section, giving Congress power to carry out TO. ses
all the rest He hoped the House would the wisdcn
striking the third section of the amendments aud al
low the other four to go to vote They would receive
Mr. MCKEE spoke in support of the measure. He Poo
posed 10 amend Mr. Gar6elds motion to recommit with
instructions by striking out the third section and insert
ing the following All persons who voluntarily adhered
the late nsuection giving aid and comfort to the 20
called Confederate States are forever excluded rom n3
the United States He held that the adoption Of sneh sn
amendment would obyiae the objection made TO the p
ticacabty Of enforcing the article II be were asked 10
choose between giving the elective franchise TO dsioya
man and coored man. be would say that he preferred ibe
meanes black man who ever wore the chains OF sa'ey
the most intelligent traitor who wars against mo
country.
Mr. WILSON Iowa rose to question Mr. Raymond in
reference his position the Civil Rights bill, but Mr.
Rogers objected 10 being consumed in that way sey
ing that be informed that the House be broaght
to vote on the joint resolution tomorrow, al.
The SPEAKER said that ne so understood, adding " AZ
there 80 gentlemen desiring to speak Oh the sncB"
ment
dam mood ha Rec
tirey disappointed the country The resolution unSer
which was organized had directed simply to report
whether the late Rebel States any OF them, were eu
titled TO be represented in either House OF Congress-
Had it done sol Had reported whether any Of thsse
States were were entitled 10 representation What
information had given TO the House that subeetf
That Committee not charged with the duty OF chang
the restoration of the Union aud he hoped no further
business would be referred to It, 1t had rendered isslf
unworthy Of its high position Seeing the Handwriting
on tho WALL noting the change in public sentiment ard
the dsrepue which it falling, had sought to
aay that popular sentiment BY compromise among 10
M % 1sd ni O
tscaon Why had Others given up universal sufrascI
Why had Others given up their plan Of universal butehey
for the purpose saving their party in the Fall elections
Mr. WINDOW wanted to krow whether the gentleman
homo at Fond du Lac represented the
Wisconsin
Mr. ELpRrDGE replied ihat Il did not, and no paper reps
resented the Democracy of Wisconsin.
Mr. Window wished to read an article nom II but M.
Eldrdge would not permit him.
Mr. WINDoM then stated that the paper referred 10 do
MED that jeff Davis traitor and asked MI Eidntgo
his opinion on the subject
Mr. ELDRIDGE expressed his opinion that he was and
said that that proved that he did not agree With the organ
He asked Mr. Widom whether he thought that anybody
who was preventing the restoration Of the Union vac
traitor.
Mr.. WINDOW replied, that under certain Circumstances
he might be.
Mr. ELDRIDeE remarked significantly that he thoughtso
too. 49, -,
Mr. boutwell, was the next speaker. he did not is'
sunrsed AZ the gentleman from Wisconsin Mr. Eldrdlel