The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1866-02-15
MIR. Speaker Baldwin-The President-The
Rebels--An Interesting Episode.

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ington, on Tuesday, Mr.. Henderson COM
menced his remarks with an allusion TO the
Presidents speech to the Virginia delegation
In that speech the President had sale that he
regarded what is known as the Radical party
as the great danger TO this country.
Mr. Henderson next referred to the amnesty
proclamation of President j Johnson, and denied
the right of the President to grant amnesty TO
bv the act of July 1862, which prescribes an
GA tn that must be taken before amnesty can
be granted. He adverted to the proclamation
recognizing the State of North Carolina, an
denied the right of the President to prescribe
the qualification of voters as he had done in
that proclamation. He believed the State
governments in the South must be reorgan-
ized before there could be perfect union OF
the States, but if You turn back the State
governments to the men who had been in
rebellion, is il not reasonable to expect they
will rebel again He would ask the Senate II
Congress could not to- day pass an act depriv-
ing The late rebels of their citizenship, not
outstanding the Presidents amnesty. If
Congress has the power TO do that, 1T ought to
be done. Men who went into the rebellion
ought to be disfranchsed and prevented from
taking part in the work OF reorganization.
Mr.. Henderson read from the address OF the
Virginia delegation to the President. He said
il was signed by man named Baldwin among
others.
Mr.. Wilson inquired if that was not the
Baldwin who was a member of the rebel Con-
gress, and who nominated General Lee Tor
Governor of Virginia
Mr. Henderson said he so understood it..
Mr.. Sumner inquired if that was the sort OF
men who gave advice TO the President?
Mr. Henderson was speaking of Mr.. Lincoln's
plan for recognizing on the basis Of one tenth
OF the people of a State.
Mr.. Wade inquired how, under a republic
can form of government, one tenth OF the peo-
pie could govern nine tenths
Mr.. Henderson inquired If the government
of South Carolina was not republican when
she entered the Union
Mr.. Wade said it was not.
Mr.. Henderson said our fathers must nave
lied about it, then.
Mr.. Wade said they were mistaken-that S
all.
Mr.. Henderson con tinued his remarks on the
right Of giving the control of State govern
ments TO loyal men. Yet men who did TINS
were denounced as Jacobins and Roundheads
Mr. Sumner.-By whom?
Mr.. Henderson The President says so TO
the Virginia delegation. He refers to such
men as the Senator from Massachusetts: he
is the most dangerous man know OF. He is
always making whitewashing speeches ana
doing other dangerous Things. Ine fTesiueht
alludes to him when he talks about hammer"
ing at one end while the anvil was going at the
other.
Mr. Sumner said that didn't apply to him.
1t must be meant that the Democrats were
hammering at this end.
Mr.. Henderson was sure Mr.. Sumner was
the man whom the President meant.
Mr. Henderson was referring again TO the
interview between the Virginia delegation and
the President. He was interrupted by Mr.
Wilson.
: ! Mr.. Wilson said want to ask the Senator II
he has any anxiety whatever in regard to the
opinions of this Mr.. Baldwin, or any men
OF that class, or any men in the country VINO
sympathize with them, that they will be able
10 influence affairs in any of the States that,
in 1864, voted for MIR. Lincoln for President!
ask il he does not believe that those States,
by a most decisive majority-a majority
larger than they gave in 1s64--are to-day OPP
posed to the admission of any OF those states
10 representation in this chamber unless they
give security for the futuref
Mr. Henderson. AS before stated, am
Conservative. / am regarded as a Conserva-
tive, and not as Radical. ] want those States
back Immediately.
Mr.. Wilson.--So do we.
Mr.. Henderson But am not SO anxious
about 1t rs to take them back In their present
condition,
Mr. Henderson then discussed the right Of
Congress to disfranchise rebels. He believed
that right existed, and ought TO be exercised
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