New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1866-02-24

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any limitation Of the right Of debateI would prefer
that we should deliberate calmly, until the excite,
psnt Of the events Of the RS :sv, be- Sa{
not excedi probably he is mott but the public mind Is
excited and the words used in debate to-day cannot be
uttered with that deliberate care the subject deserves
This delay can do no harm-t may do no good. Ihe
Senator says no measure be OF greater importance
than this concurrent resolution. In my opinion no
question be Of great Importance which leads to no
practical result The only objection have to II Is that
il is brought before US under peculiar as
deny To the opportunity for the caeui
ton which 1t deserves IL was passed In he otnr mouse
without debate under feelings Influenced by the veto
Message. w.,
After some further debate by Messrs. Howe and
FEssESDEN,
these gentlemen He said he understood them 10 say
in substance that the President Of the United States
seemed deny TO Congress the right judge upon NOT
only the qualifications and elections OF members Dut
upon the night of representation on the part OF STATES
or Districts in tie Senate and House OF Representa-
tves. He Dooltt) did not infer any such tLlng IRON
the language Of the President. ..,,,,A,u
Mr. Doolitte was proceeding with his remarks when
he was called to order by Mr.. 1RrMBULIp who MADE
the point that Senator opposed TO taking up resou
ton had right to discuss the nerits OF that Tesou
Mr. DooLrTTLE-I am simply replying to the remarks
from my colleague and the Senator from Name wno
assumes to say that the Chief Magistrate denIea ts
body the right to judge whether certain states are ~
condition TO be represented here.
Mr. TRUyBULL--I insist upon the question OF order,
and when call the Senator TO order he must suspend
hie remarks.
The CHAIR sustained the point OF order raised by Mr.
Trumbull.
The question was then taken on proceeding TO the
consideration of the House concurrent resolution Dat
no Senators Representatives from any OF the So
called Confederate States shall be admitted TO either
House until Congress shall have decided sueh State
entitled to snch representation
Mr.. JOHNSON called FOR tie yeas and nays, which
were ordered as follows
YRAs-ses.. Anthony, Brown. Chandler Clark Conness
Cragu, Cresswe, FesseI.den, Foster, Oru.es,
Howard Howe Kikwood Lane ,Indl Mouell Nye Poland,
Pomeroy Ramsey, Sumner, TrumbC Wade Wiley lham''
NAYs-Ie.r. Bachalew COwan, Davis, Dixon DoOlitte,
Morgan, Nesmith, Norton, Riddle salisbury, Sherman,
Stewart Stockton, Van Winhe-la
So the resolution was taken up.
Mr.. FEssESDRS took the floor. The resolution
said he lis nothing nor less than an assertion by
both Houses OF Congress that they will not act upon the
credentials Of Senator's or members from any Of the
Southern States until they have previously passed law
for the admission Of that State This Is IN exact accord
with what Congress has indicated at its Intention
heretofore. 1t indicated in the last Congress in
resolution which directly from the Committee on
the Judiciary Of which Mr. johnson was then O mem.
ber and be (Mr. Fessenden) was informed that II had
his cOneurrence-not applicable 10 al! the states but
TO Of them IL was contained IN report made 10
the Senate on the subject Of the State Government Of
Louisiana on Feb. Il, ls66. The report says in
its last paragraph that the persons In possession OF
the local authority Of Louisiana having rebelled
against the authority Of the United States aud
her inhabitants having been declared 20 be IN state OF
nsurrecton in pursuance OF law passed by the Two
Houses Congress, your Committee do not deem it
proper for this body to admit 10 Senators from
Louisiana until by the Joint action Of both Honses
there shall be some RECOGNITION OF the existing State
Government acting in harmony with the Govern
ment OF the United States and recognized by 1t.
Now Sir there il the principal lald down in so many
words. understand IT, specifically by the Senators
from MARYLAND whose authority all quote that in
nsnuch as the State of Louisiana had been declared
he in rebellion, and intercourse with II sas.
pended by law Of Congress, therefore Con
gress could not properly admit senstors nom
provide for her admission. when that resolution was
introduced there objection made 10 II here or
elsewhere. How does II happen that when similar
resolution Is offered which is applicable TO other States
that have been in like condition with Louisiana there
must be much sensitveness IN the minds OF gentle
meni How can ii be that what was so applicable 70
Louisiana is so inapplicable TO other States Let
examine continued Mr. Fessenden, and zee what oc.
CURED since that time because feel somewhat sens
tive the subject. Charges have oeen maze win
reference 10 the Committee Of which have the honor
10 be one and feel compelled TO yindcate IL. Before
further viii send TO the Secretary desk
b. read extract from speech made by the Presi
dent OF the United States 10 MS IehoWe%ehs !esleI
day. as follows:
1--WE find tha, in irresponsible central directory nearly
all the Of the Government are assumed without even
consulting the Legislative Executive Department 81 he
Yes and by resolution reported by Commit
upon whom ali the Legislative power OF the Government
has been conferred tina. e, purple IN tng
the Senate aud House OF Representatives, 70 re
ha. virtually taken away from these departments Of Gov
eDment and conferred upon comittee VINO must report
befe they act under the Constitution and allow
Mr. FrssEyDEY continued: 1t will be noticed that In
the extract which has been read there were very serious
that there IL an effort made TO
all power in the hands Of few and In connection with
that that all power is TO be lodged and is lodged in
sort Of Central Committee.
Mr.. HowARD-Central Directory, be calls it.
Mr. FEssESpES-Yes, central directory. believe II
is and the words which immediately follow furnish the
indication 10 what Committee he means Now, sir;
think the President OF the United States could hardly
have considered with the nature of the resolution
under which have been acting hardly looked a. and
its meaning. Let me read that resolution
aud state the history Of IT, inasmuch az the President
charges that ill this matter OF deciding upon the ere
dentals OF members and Senators is taken from the
House and Senate and referred TO this Committee. II
may be well 10 examine the matter little. This resolu
ton as from the House. informally provided that
Joint Committee Of Fifteen. nine members OF the
House and six of the Senate shall be appointed who
shall inquire into the condition Of the late socalled Con-
federate States and report whether they any OF them
are entitled to representation either House Of Con-
gress with leave 10 report al any time ny bill or other
wise and until such report shall have been made and
finally acted upon member shall be admitted into
either House from any Of the so.caled Confederate
States and all papers relating 10 the subject OF repre-
Sc ntaon OF the socalled Confederate States shall be
referred to said Committee without debate. when 1t
came to be considered. il was not deemed very de-
sirabe at that time TO interfere with those questions
which might be settled by either House. and the resou
ton was fnaly passed so as 10 pro'ue Simply ior the
appointment OF the Committee with power to report at
any time by bill otherwise. What Is thatf Simply
committee. in this unexappled condition
OF the country with Of four years just closed in
which eleven States hod been engaged. after all
the expenditure Of blood and treasure made in
the country at the first meeting OF Con.
gress, which occurred after actnal hostilites
had ceased, the appointment Of Joint committee
for the purpose of inquring into the condition OF these
States and reporting whether they were entitled 20
representation. Now Sir that simple provision for
acquiring information in order TO enable the House
ana Senate to judge understandingly upon this import