The New York herald., 1866-07-09


honor Of acting politically for twenty, years past,
and, 70 the best Of my tudgnsnt ] have ex.
pressed such opinions ,. and gwen them such advice %
regard 10 the measures submitted to them in
Pfament and long as have the hohor Of being as
sooaatcd in public life with and enjoying he confidence
or party shall deem Of the fundamental duties
imposed upon by that position net to leave the party,
and frankly and fairly to before them fo the pur
pose Of inducing political cooperation. the views which
entertain. Cheers The noble G earl spoke o. We ad-
position don't know how he became possessed OF he In
formation as to what advice gave don't know whether
took place at those meetings. bu in whatever way ne
obtained his information, say never advised those
this bill with anything than reasonable opposition
HIear The noble earl has spoken as II II had been MS
political VINO M sSs Kit bSt as
matter Of fact every amendment or oosructon as ne
pleases to term an amendment has been made not py
his opponents, but by those whom he reckoned IN the
ranks OF his political supporters will say TO the noble
lord at once that the injudicious and dctaoria
mens cSeers1 that that has aienaed from him men
who might have been consulted-snen who might have
been led but could have been driven and to
that he owes the position which he finds himself
Hear hear is not usual to refer to proceedings in
the other House. but as the nooe earl has made use OF
what were the amendments to which he referred The
noble earl down at the opening of Parliament and
announced to us that Immediately after Lord Palmer
ston's funeral that is TO say ut the latter end of
October, her Majestys government sent out to
Reform Bill and at the time that speech
was made that statistical information was not
IN the hands Of - lne ws a Russell
il error; but 1t certainly stated the speech
from the Throne that when that information had been
obtaincd-Qhear, hcar,-it should be placed upon the
tab lie Of the House. When about month Of the ses-
sion had expired the brought forward par
ta measure dealing with the extension the franchise
and with nothing else but giving that other impor-
tant propositions would be made IN the future with re-
gard to the representation of the people noble earl
vrhn lfr nj and
who proved his political opinions upon than
one OCCASION proposed that the government bill should
complete measure of reform. 1t was dismissed by
majority of five only Was that very unreasonable de-
with matter. Of such gravity-a matter which affects
the of the constitution which alters the charac
ter of the House Of Commons, and thus alters its rela-
tons this House, TO the Throne and to the country
say il is fair and reasonable nay absolutely necessary,
that Parliament should the whole upon the
subject before sound JUDGMENT can be formed with @
respect to any part OF It, Cheers And her Matos.ys
government admitted the reasonablenoss OF TINS Wow
e. the for aSGusn Ssns ossy. asy pa
Franchise bill this session and ganea inc ponI oy
10 do that which six weeks before
thew had declared impossible from want OF time and
under they brought forward measure so crnde
no. say laughed out OF the House, but IL certainly
never matter Of serious discussion its clau and pro-
using too strong word when say il was rldcucd by
every person who considered it. Cheers) Tho govern
with the demands Of the friends Of the noble lord in the
House (hear hcar and tho result OF this haste
naturally displayed in the crudeness and absurdty
Of its provisions The division upon tho ques-
ton whether the enfranchisng the dsranchs-
ing clauses should be taken FIRST and upon this question
the government obtained believe, the largest majority
that it had hitherto gained motion next made to
incorporate in the bill provisions having for their object
the prevention Of bribery Upon the wisdom Of ncorpo
give opinion, but such motion cannot certainly
be regarded as brought forward for tho purpose
ment that occasion suffered defeat, but they
did not appear to consider that defeat as
their conduct in any way' Tbcv con.ented themselves
with challenging the proposer 10 bring forward clauses
in committee embodyng his propositions The next
question was think, the reduction Of tho county fran
chse. should sny, however that upon the first read
ing or the first bill only there discussion. The
second reading OF that bill passed without any dv
son and upon the second reading OF the second bill,
the redistribution BILL and upon going into committee
on the consolidated bill there was neither discussion nor
division Nothing done 10 impede the action of tho
government You speak about tho county franchise;
but members Of the House Of Commons must, ! pre-.
sume, bo permitted 10 exercise their judgment
these matters without reference tho exgences Of any
particular minister, however old q hand he may be at
franchise was suggested instead o the pro-
posal of fourteen pounds and upon motion Tor suost
tutng rating for rental qualification In the counties
her Majestys government snccessful To The last
hour indeed that clause remained IN the bill prec sey
! in the form proposed by hrr Maesty's government
Now unless you want siife debate altogether, you
canno, MAINTAIN that there was any obstruction In the
course that adopted on that occasion Cheers J
s mot e n1Sss ~ 70 sss soayo merits Of r.soa
or rental qualification and as 70 the advssbily Of nx
the standard al fourteen pounds Or twenty pounds
low could the business OF any government be carried
a II every question raised To be turned INTO Of
tnhdence and II the House of Commons Is 10 DO told
tat eSery dein must accepted in the form IL Is pro-
pscd TINT IL must submit TO have ali tho opinions the
gserpent thrust its throat, and that II any chico
s s oicrcd to such proceeding Parl amcnt must be
pr)ared for the result The noblc lord talked great
dc abcut ,he rights OF the working man. but have
to in the form he proposed, and that the qucs-
J tion as TO the amour, OF the borough frXnchu Q
| (Chcersl When l say i was never discusscd
do not to say that i nigh, have been a nt
subct Tor discussion; hut II never discussed and
when the Comnons by their Vote,
upon accepting rating Instead OF rental quaiinca,on
ii wan, perfectly competent Tor the government ssr
that ps that proposition would the franchise above
what they intended, they would propose reduction In
the figure. That would have been lar and an obvious
course 10 pursue but after the defeat OF the
\ ment when forty-iour Of Their own fiiends voted IN
opposition, the Chancellor Of the Excheauer jumps
i IN and says that the government regard that
clause as an essential portion Of the bill the vote
was realty Of want OF confidence and notwithstand
ing the inconvenience the country, and, notwith.
standing the state of foreign affairs VIC Wall involve you
in all tho Inconvenience attending change OF govern
you dared TO exercise your rfht OF jdg
/ ment IN this way The members Of tho government
/ then acternined upon rendering their designations,
with the intention, ! trust, OF inducing ,he Crown
\ 10 accept them. and not, hope, Intending those
| res,ruat,ons 10 be fictitious. pass over the re-
maiuer OF the noble earis speech viii noi argue the
question OF Reform and will not desi In any way
with warnings which the noble earl has uttered about
conci arg the people of this country asd Keeping them
good with the Crown and wti the aristocracy
should have said anything nj all had not been Tor
the cyonaI caryos made against e and for the charges
\ muac against my friends Va the other house. Those
chsrgcs having, however, been pade should not have
fc,, thai was perform ng my ity cithor myself
my trends II had Tor the purpose OF rcpudi
| aiing them. hceis
ctau your ordsbps rtbcr but there parts o the
speech OF the n.bic Earl Russc winch u IL i'm.
poesIble for to permit to pass unnoticcd have
listened the explanation of the noble lord of the
which have led her Msesiys ministers
TO tender their resignation with very great concern
~ canno, regard IL beng in any way satissao,
tory The subject Is OF much importancc--it bears
| so strongly upon our future conduct-that hope
your lordshps will pardon VI venture to ask
your attention 20 remarks which feel II necessary
10 mako with regard tn the past history the Ministry
The noble carl saysand on this point entirely concur
with himthat after all that had passed former years
after the language that had been held by members of