New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1866-11-29

Tue DlSuOpS OF Nhldl anu OhptlONus lHdb CdSt Hdu
established that Bishop Gray's attempt to deprive
Bishop Colenso of his spiritual functions az Bishop,
the right TO Ordain. confirm and cOnsecrate, was alb
sOlutely null and void; but the other hand learned
persons doubted whether it might not be deduced
from the judgment that the patents Of Bishops of the
Church of England in the colonies were also alto
gether void. IfLOrd Romilly Judgment stands-andit
1t is said that the High Church party do not TO
pealitthe question is now settled The Queen again
the head OF all authority in her dOminonS ecclesiasti
cal as well as civil. In all the colonies Just rs at
home, that religious body which acknowledges her
supremacy is the Church Of England, and her letters
patent confer on Bishops Of that communion in the
colonies precisely the same powers and rights over
clergy and laity as upon Bishops in England These
latter no doubt have their own ecclesiastical
courts for enforcing ecclesiastical law and these
are IN the Colonies, fortunately for them most o. us
think, no ecclesiastical Courts. But this is only diff
ference in form and method Of procedure the Colo
NAL Bishops having to proceed in the ordinary civil
Courts, from which an appeal lies to the Queen IN
Privy Council. This supremacy of the Queen is the
real test of whether voluntary association OF Chrs
tians calling themselves portion of the Church Of
England are or are not so III reality. An ndepend.
ent Episcopal Church, such as yours, and that OF
Scotland, though in full communion" with the
Church ofEngland, is no part Of it, just because 1t re-
iects the Queens supremacy. A very satisfactory
outcome for all those who re- ect the high doctrines Of
apostolic succession and all the rest fit but proba-
bly, one which will be demurred TO if not rejected by
considerable portion of our church. Meantime one
reoices that Bishop Coenso has gained the arrears OF
his salary and the costs Of sut.
The same question in another form has been dis
turbing the diocese of Sasbury-Lord Sydney GOdol-
phin Osborne, the $50 of The Times is a Dorsetshire
clergyman, an excellent parish priest have always
heard but better known as an interchangeable ierrter-
out of bucolc abuses Of all kinds and man full of
medical and other knowledge, which he utilities for the
material benefit Of bis poorer neighbOrs. Theological
questions doubt whether he cares much for, or has
considered very deeply but until the last 10 days
be has managed TO keep on excellent terms with his
Bishop. ID. Hamilton is this dignitarys name good
scholar, and churchman Of the Bishop OF
Oxiords school, who has gradually gathered
round him in the Diocese Of Salisbury
very decidedly high church clergy. 500 watching
the questions of the day in his DorseShlre home and
seeing how these ritualstc practices exercising
the British mind, and bringing up oil the old cOntro-
verses about the priesthood, sets down and delivers
himself Of two letters to The Tunes. commenting ON
the different education and training of the clergy OF
the English and Roman cOmmuniOns, how the one set
live precisely like otner young men till ordination,
and marry and exercise lay functions such as those
ofmagisraes afterward and are in fact yerygoOd fell
lows and the most cultivated part OF country society
throughout their lives, while the Others trained as
distinct class from bOyhOOd, vowed TO ceebacy at
their conservation, indoctrnated with the beauties OF
ascetcism, and taught to separate themselves from
human interests and human life and to believe that
they are meant to rule these as spiritual fathers. by
an easy lump $50 gets 10 telling these rnalisc clergy
that they bad better give up playing at priests, ana
that for all these mysterious powers and gifts which
priests have claimed up and down the world, why,
the less said about them the better in this connection
In fact the noble and proiuse parson clearly shows
that for bis part he has no consciousness OF possess
ing any such powers and gifts at all and doesn't the
least believe in them. Whereupon, the Bishop comes
down on bis OutspOken parsOn with severe apostolic
rebuke He writes, and prints in The Guardian let
ter to 500 denOuncing his view as ungenerOus I'M
dutiful, inaccurate, and very unworthy oil one who
has promised TO maintain and set forward as much as
lieth in him, quetness, peace, ana love among alI
Christian people Verify these are strong words for
Bishop, and the Episcopal mind must have
been deeply moved before inditing them. The Bishop
goes sOemny to protest that the clergy oil the Church
of England have committed to them the same powers
which the priests of the rest Of the Catholic Church
both in the East and West have claimed as their
inheritance" The deuce they do One is tempted
10 exclam: This is a large order with q vengeance,
and put in such vague terms that there is really no
knowing what the Bishop is seriously standing up for.
Does be mean that he claims for our clergy power 10
forgive sins 10 mediate between God and man in the
in which Romish priests profess to hold it, or
what the mysterious powers conferred by the i'm
position of Bishops hands when done into plain En-
glish 1t would be satisfactory if we could get them
set out by such high authority, and then the sooner
they are once again Enthusiastically dealt with by the
long suffering British people the better
Nov lO.-'rhus far got last night, and this morn
ings Times brings S. G. O.'s reply TO the Bishop,
most characteristic one, thoroughly accepting the lay
view of the Church Of England but failing, think,
as an answer in respect that the writer is OBJ
viously utterly incapable of putting himself in the
place Of the rualiss sufficiently TO understand them
One phrase in his former letter, lucky in bis profess
sion, seems TO have stung the Bishop specially, and
S. G. O. now explains delicOusly: :" child and
dog" he writes, "may both fall out Of window, the
dog on a stone, and be killed; the child on flower
bed, and escape unhurt. should call the child
lucky If man, who would have been a Bishop,
dies Rector because Earl Russell goes out of Office
hold him to be q Rector out Of luck; if Conserva
tive Rector is made Bishop by Lord Derby, should
call him. and think he would proclaim himself, very
fortunate. But l do think it wise TO avoid the fire.
of ordinary events to the direct inter
position of Providence" One would give tribe to
have been able to watch the faces Of the Bishop OF
Salisbury, and other religious persons, while they
were perusing this declaration of faith.
The same paper brings me the report Of what our
present Governors were saying IN Gudhall at the
time was beginning this letter. am very glad TO
be able to congratulate you on new converts. Her
Maestys present Government, with Lord Derby at
the head, appreciate thoroughly the position of our
Transatlantic brethren and desire nothing much
TO tighten all bonds between us. The Premier gem
orally comes out squarely, having made up his
mind to do it, So he rejoices the return Of peace
in that great country, our natural friend; our rea
tion may call IT.; the great Republic across the At
lantc." He hopes TO see you sOOn after your super
human efforts, " great proud ana prosperous
community" and has confident hope that So the two
Governments, approaching questions at issue in a
spirit of mutual forbearance, will arrive at such
luton as not only TO remove all remnants Of bitter
ness, but to place on a better foundation than ever
our relations with that great country, to which we
are bound by many ties Of interest and gratitude"
Nothing could be better; only one can't help growl
ing. If you, my Lord, had only taken the trouble
to look into the questions, as you were bound, as
the leader Of great party, 10 do, five years
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to remove However the speech is a capital speech,
so we won't grumbIe Overit or criticse too keenY.