New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1866-07-16

The minority OF The Committee Messrs. H. d. Raymond and
F.5 Tbs, he Hon Love H. be summoned to the
bar Of the oue and be there psoey repf1na by ,e H.
s GUILTY n the personal assault committed by him the Hon j.
other resolutions reported by the Commtee the under
Mr. WsoS Gowa the point of order upon the second
resolution reported by the Committee. That Mr.. Grinnel
Having been called order the House first by two mem
bers by the Speaker aud the House having declined
that time 20 take any further notice of the language used
having permitted him TO proceed the House thereby
barred from taking acton against him for the words
spoken at aa time He argued at considerable length IN sup
port OF his position maintaining that although the resolution
referring the matter 20 the Committee might be held 10 give
such authority yet the House could not depue power
STALKER point of order involved all the
rules and usage in regard to calling to order and also the
and extent Of the Committees authority under the reso
luton. The 6st rule adopted by the First Congress
7S the GA rule proposed by John Quincy Adams In
1892 It's history that Mr. Stinsbury Of Ohio bad de-
nOunced Speaker StevensOns political quite bitterly
but had not been called order at the time The next day
resolution introduced censurng him, which after eX
citing debate prevailed by large majority There no
Congregational Globe at the time and there question to
rule which adopted by subsequent Cons ress
The 62i rule IN its first division says that the person calling
member 10 order for this rule implies that the primary duy
calling order upon members the floor who shall re-
the words excepted TO and they shall be taken down
rule can require the offending member to take his seat lie
further and require him to stop absolutely unless ma
further and OF censure The Speaker cannot
by this rule prevent him from continuing his speech
sion. Tie last part Of the CD rule states that Nom
Der shall not he censured other business mas dsprcd
after the Objectionable WOdf ana before exceptions 10 tnen
shall have The Speaker holds that calling order
tremest gor at the time Mr Grinne was called to order
twice ruled of order both times by the Chair Any
Of the S members of the House could under the rule
have required him take LIS seat and suspend his speech un
less permitted by majority 20 proceed Bat no one did So
when the members Of the House grant unanimous consent as
IN this case for personal which speakers aWays
dislike of their personalities and for which thor
consent is not asked the usage has been almost invariably
that the Chair does not ouneer TO check them but waits Tor
some member to call to order and then promptly rneS One
Of the few exceptions the present Speaker himself ealing
Mr. Grnne to order after he had been twice decided out OF
order points made b others But resolution Unanimous
mee fn authority 10 investigate the subject assault
words spoken IN debate and 70 report such eou
privileges o the House and the protection Of its members and
resolution under which they act connected the two
transactions together closely as cause and effect tac Char
holds that the second resolution Is not out OF order.
Mr. SPALDNG. Chairman of the Select Committee. opened
the debate and argued that when the Constitution provided
that member should not be csed account elsewhere for
words spoken debate It meant not only that he should be
free from liability to libel suits &C. oa iee also from pDyS
Nj WEIGHT demanded to be informed whether the gentle
from OHIO that member might indulge IN
blchguardsm IN the House and that member assaed by
him could protect himself II was the duty Of the Speaker
10 protect member AMI u he dd not 10 So II was tue uuy
Of the member assaied 10 protect himself
Mr SrADNG replied that the Committee held that no words
spoken debate justification for any member to assault
agreed without hesitation No words could be uttered this
floor in regard TO member that would JUSTIFY TIE inheon Of
a blow. either on this fOor or elsewhere
Mr.. HUBBARD Conn asked whether n O member mali
other member officer Of bc army Tor Instance with COW
ardice that within tie definition OF words spoken IN de
bate lLaughierl
Mr.. SPALpNG made response bu' proceeded with bis
argument Whenever he said anybody eulogised Lowell
Rousseau patriot soldier. officer who m the hour OF
his countydanger did a much with bis bright blade any
other from the old State OF Kentncky he would amen
to that and go better. LaugAei.l II he had read
Alright in the battles Of Shiloh Pefvie and Murfreesboro
the white plume Of the gallant Harry Of Navarro might well
have paed before that Rousseau he doubted not bis chy
airy hs No man woman or child IN the country
had right to disparage the fair military fame OF Lowell H.
tn lfltg
veins when he listened TO an mpu,aion 70 that effect lie
could not for eouutenanoe and would the seal Of
Rousseau the OF gentleman and hero DO the worse
was his case as an example for all time 10 come for House
gentleman has IT, Notwithstanding his four years disc
e i tbe school OF the army 10 biea over The discipline
posd by Constitution Of the country and by Pa anentay
violate not merely the privileges OF member OF the
Hole brt one Of the dearest and most haowed privileges
Congress Of the United states THIS gnominous blow had
been inflicted the person OF member Of the House and Tie
House called upon 10 whether would lndcate ts
privileges Tie majority OF the Committee had with great
puson the only adequate penalty for oeuse committed
with much oconess and deoeraon and under such agga
waited II it the last be should be
called upon give in the House BE- should do violence TO his
conscience II be gave 1t Tor less ihan kno~
ing be did that the ofene bad been clearly and perfectly
proved aud knowing the that would be attached
any Of the House m passing such an infringement
OF its high privileges The ocaou grear but tho
provOcatiOn did not present Justification There was no "a
cuse for one member nhcug personal violence OF DIS brother
member.
M WRIGHT asked h Spadlng Y nat ne Wulll 90 h.tA
with language so gross a. tAat apihea 70 tle FtHe'h OA
Kentucky tending b degrade him among hs associaies
Nj SPALDNG replied that u he himself could have useu
language mPugning he heiosn ana courage o he MuDei
Kentucky be could not have objection 20 the House
expeng him but were they TO return TO The scenes OF bar
barsm aud was the Hall OF the House OF Representatives 10
converted hereafter through any notions OF hgminded
chivalry into bear garden instead Of hail Of legislation
That the great point ana FOR It's decision they Woua nave
10 answer to their constituency.
Some discussion in reference to The outside parties named in
the second resolution took place between Mess LLDEDGL
JOHNSON two latter gentlemen cOneuding that the
Committee had jurisdiction over those persons aud that they
had not been notified Of neiT Ocng charged WIN an oene
and had not had any privilege OF crose1annng OF producing
Nj HALF offered the following amendment for the
first resolution OF the Committee.
ana tp dS o b II oa s Psc6s on The Of n
prOyocaton Of words however severe and unmeilea sna
se OF ~ msnoes BOT, o.. respects peI.on ana eas ys' nv
ir'her action on ne Ti,,ef OF ps n9% I . b oriane
CoaPEHsATIOS o. coSGIEssMKS
Mr.. HALE yielded TO a motion 70 adjourn when
NBlAcK from the Committee on Appropriations re
ped bill provide for and 20 regulate tho compensation
RepreseDatives and Delegates IN Congress
Read vice ordered printed and postponed till Wednes
Tie bill fixes the compensation 5000 for each Congress
and mileage al the rate OF 10 cents PEI mile The President
of the Senate is 10 have the compensation as the vice.
President OF United States and the Speaker Is 70 have
double the compensation OF members except as 10 messe
which is be the In Of the death Of member
his representatives, are TO receive AZ the rate OF sO per
ty The bill is apply the members Of the present Con
gross from the OF March 1850 except as 10 mileage
CHARGEs AGAINST Mr. CONKLihG.
Mr. SuEALLABAEGER from the Special Committee on charge,
against Nj Con4D reported IN part WIN me 9sliyy qua
arguments OF counsel which were laid on the tap ana
ordered TO be printed
The report completely ex0nerates Mr. COnkng and brands
the statement IN Gen Fys letter not only uniounded IN
TACT but macousy untrue The House at 20 adjourned
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