The New York herald., 1866-03-30

Inn portant Discussion I'm the Brftish
Nssrr.i %1R Rssolt Of Event. "ssn in Hmsries. s:e
Earl Russell Calls the Fenians n Set Of
In The British House OF Lords on the 18th inst an
important discussion, already briefly noticed by tee
graph, took place on the condition Of ireland
into committee TO consider the state OF Ireland said:
Probably there plot more utterly wild and
hopeless than the Fcnian conspiracy and yet even this
plot has been able 10 command the active support Of
great many Of the lower classes in IrelaLd and the
sympathies OF many more This circumstance shows,
think the state Of mind which exists In that country be-
cause has been well remarked the agents of foreign
conspiracy however well supplied they might be with
money, and however well organized they might be,
would have attempted In vain TO enlist thousands OF fol-
lowers England Scotland for the purpose Of
throwing the government In Ireland however, such
success We have been told that none Of the respsca
BILE classes at all events only very few Of them have
had anything 10 do with the conspiracy, shown any
sympathy for It, and that during the recent trials the
conduct OF the jurymcn has been all that could be de-
sired My lords rejoice TO ind that II is So but OBJ
feelings Of the Irish people that tho classes om whom
jurymcn were taken alarmed al asd opp,ed 20 he
empirucy because they beiieved % be diTectsd asana
all properly and all eyiatng socidt iNfituftoss,
and md because ney were ~ favor Of tie ca,
isiro 0svrrmeu, Then there is snother fact which
70 he generally admitted with regard TO Ireland
namely that the prevailing dsaecton n that country
In not produced by distress Now know Il very often
happens that physical distress the cause Of political
discontent II the Of the Swing riots Ia 1880
and 1881 and the Chartst riots few years later were
think clearly traceablc to the pressure on por
tons Of the population. II has, however, been often
pointed out that IN Ireland dsacton docs not exist in
Hose districts whore there the greatest distress For
instance there dsaecton the south than IN
the poorest counties of the west and II remarka-
BILE fact that during the great suffering In the famine Of
1s47 political discomfort was far less than II was
eight or nine years afterwards, whom, from the
high prices caused by the Russian war, the peo-
pie were comparatively prosperous. Indeed this
disaecton in Ireland s much more tho cause than the
elect OF distress. The feeling OF insecurity which
ireland prevents the influx OF capital into the
country and the Development Of those resources with
which, whatever may he said 20 the contrary she Is very
richly endowed by nature. How can you expect that
men will embark IN great Industrial undertakings when
every day at pabc meetings speeches are made which,
them contemplate sooner OF later the overthrow OF tho
existing institutions Of the country s think, per-
the main cause which prevents the industrial improve
ment OF Ireland believe that the description which
have now given q e state or things ~ ,rs'a9aa az d..
Of all partiess accurate one, and think none OF
your lordships will venture 10 deny the reality Of the
evils which have mentioned Nos, " disdgsctin aud
poverty ne chrcac conditions of Ireland, "a imposi
bp 10 osnt fer sach fact erccp BY atibvhng % the
mporrnmer Of that country and indeed, beiievs IT'S
rnreyaiy cd~dsd lut the erii, Of Ireland spring from
nSgsrG amen. .
We have heard u stated in strong language in this House.
and perhaps has been stated In stronger language In
the other House. that the deep feeling of animosiy
against Russia which prevails IN Poland is conclusive
proof q Russia Of that unhappy copn
Try. Nay no, smiidr oorciuson Dc drdirn dedinst 10
from ne sats ~ fred~d vi e shs omfimscs az shs isr
have shown, you that dsaaeetion In Ireland has not
diminished, but has kept increasing, during the fast
thirty years while this state of things exists every
sdsance witch Ireland may make In other respects only
increases her peril II she Increases In wealth and
popua, and still remains dsalccted her position VIII
become Tar more per,ous than ~ now. We are there
fore. 10 this condition that until succeed IN gaining
the affections or the Irish people every measure We
pass for the benefit OF ireland only the evils OF
which we complain The necessity for applying 70 Par
lament for the suspension OF the babeas corpus was
clear evidence as 10 the state OF ireland but think
the duty OF the government not merely TO rcprees
the outward symptoms Of disancrt on IN that country.
but 70 ascertain the true Of the danger 30 that the
danger itself might be removed
Lord DrufRH Under Secretary OF State, agreed shal