The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-07-03
THE REFORM BILL,

Final Debate ON and Defeat or tho Cabf-
net Measure-Eari Russell O~tvoted sn
sns s Common. Commons and . ministeri:, orisis
pending RovOlutiOn fn Germany and
Engia nd's Political Future Advance
OF the Democratic rfnciple-Ame rica n
Newspapers superseding tho Engiish
Press in the Mills and Factories.
In the House OF Commons on the 18th OF June men,
bers went into committee upon the or the
People and the Redistribution OF Seats bills
The CHANCELLOR THE ExcHsoUm-Mr Dodson s,S
rise for the purpose Of proposing the h CLAUSE e sns
bill.
Mr. Ds".sr.i Understand ih.,m - the part Q, me
BILL and apprehend therefore that the right honorsl.e
gentleman IL not 10 order In mskingA motion OF Sn@
kind. Hear, hearl
The CsAScxrIoR rHx EIcHEouFn-Whex ! rose 20
propose tho 9th clause OF the bill "a not mea1 70
make formal molten Su, to spool on the Oai''
Sir II cAnss-srr Dodson, SOW rise 10 order seM,
henri There are amendmeass TO be proposed y THIS
ject 10 Pour decson- take those amendments In the
order osed, ana them and not III then topu the
question at the clause do stand part OF the bill Hear
hearl apprehend that cannot have that question
put before the amendments are disposed or De test Ia
.his-whs. should we vote isrr There y 2 question
posed or In the absence OF any amendme. you, sir,
put the question from the chair that the Clause stand
p The e. caA.snAy-rhs regular course going through
bill Is for the Chairman to call from he chair the clause
q which We have arrived, and tb,n % call upon the
SIR H. CAIRss-upon what eaessonr
The cBAssAs-The m" onea ~,o n'os 70 SPEAK may
The CrIxsrs'S@ OF rnx Ey'uSeUEn-There must
think. save pcen some misipprehepsion. My object
as. % propose this clause OF the bill but to explain
- nerai object C. Hes, hear and cries Of ''or.
Sir II. c,rUs-If tho RICH, hoporabl, rcp,,o,,, !.
going 70 conclude with question apprchend he NAV
DO perfectly Ia order, but the question with which be
must conclude Is either verbal amendment In the
clause OF else motion that you report progress II viii
be Impossible To enter Into the general question that he
clause stard part Of the bill unihe have
been proposed aud disposed of Hear, hearl
The CHAREAs-I called upon the right honorable sen
ueman on The assumption that he would conclude with
The CaNe,1toR oy rnS Ercarorra-Nr poison, I
speak subpt 10 yonr authority, but bellsse is an
agreeable lsage and one cnneny for the convenience
OF the committee that when clause Of great porance
Il proposos IN bill the person Who Is responsible for
that b Of tho pan Of the government should state
the House he sense In which the clause Is proposed.
t"Nol no That vas the course myself pursued in
regard 10 te fourth clause Hear, hear
Nj. nIeaFfJ-i riae to order.
Tho CHscKLoR oy ru Excnrorw-But am on a
point ~ rider | about 10 say that otherwise I
should hsv power Of discussing thu clause untl We
arrived at nc question that tho clause stand parf Of the
bill believe IL "a perfectly rors lar ing 10 have
dscussien IN clause aliorior TO Tie proposal OF tho
Amendments cNo, M ~
Mr.. LAlkir understand that there are ccrian r,Ie.
by whih our business In COMMITTEES n regulated and In
the nah honorable gentleman any other member or
the hoNe 'eaks on the whole cause u load. Qfccprse
10 dctte ,pon the whole claus, aud mako no fr3
grcss vha'eter In committee those who address Inc |
Hoaseret their temasSt 70 6aa o. the amendments ~
which Dlit ought 10 have bean gwen and I assume
that TIN ngr honorable gentleman Is net going "a mo-
pose Al amcdnsnt A. he has no, gvon notice Of his
intenh 10 % The eceden created hy
whom tie rlht honorable gentleman moved tie fourth
clause IretecTnt which W. cannot admit Hear
hearl tanv phsctions were taken IL tho conduct
OF ne nsss sne cfys gentleman but course where
hinisGy with too grcN r'u--tned does not wish
y cory for the conduct off!ness Tho rules whoh are
nf sor ~ honorable gen,lemahs Bat the speech
sseond reading OF the Franrbise Nh sui,si 10 ths
, we're raised, aud 10 NOT ,hb.r, hearl
\, % schaHot of tho rizhi hanornbs @ That tho
"a ccnirss, ~ ~, ~ ~ sdduced a. pracedent IN
'usinefs n committee regulated sisohs NJ which
. me NHAiRhAS--the right Lcu0rahie n.
nenoef ior stroud he already pointed OF sEhfah Vie
.laE course 81 proceeding m eAuss 4 aalef ~ Re
hartman, and the member who nrst rIsa, ri 49, ie
w tnh InAn on TIE assumption that he has ,,n,
niins before he HouFe Reference has heen MAJ.
,is ya sa.e 90 ne loatih clause Tie rgl, honor
uie sehtohAn inc Chancellor ~ tho rxcfe,u.r 80 4
peak nrst and az be proceeded tho ,ppuost,.n 4, 49,,
~ Nas mat ne vas about 10 conclude Win nN,i"ss
iear hear, snd laughterl He con'd el,bs, ~.
y rssa snraa'aea, or he could have proposed that
glld have e1cl1dca other ar,cndn,sn,s "''foh
~ 1rt.t1itna or rAs FxrriotEn-I ubderslnoa ca,
~, ~ thsi y " my power 70 polut 0nt Inc ua,n,a
md rart u the bill tCfics ~ ,sNc ~ - .is s. y
= 20 r course have taken mvsolf mon 4 e,a.s |
p.f o' clanses w gresi number ~ bills a,heef ia
asp.'on ~ snrie occssicn Nevertheless on the
ns oontrovcrted matter I win nst erssr.r,,s ~
sion ~ procecding further (Iiaar heagJ US
Ause I'VE hsving been sgaln called !
4 /, sasfoAn, sho bad given notice Of an amendment
Of the clauss - P''''so " "e !
ORD DvsxnIr subsequently moved M, sm.rar,.r,
'"aa ~een 'nas ts An 'oirU resry b