The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-05-13
CAPITAL AND LABOR.
The Strike or tho shiYssrpsntsrs, ship
toansrs ana shipcs ulkers-Mseting .
the shiPtoiners' Association.

The Dsrtke or the UAivssrpentsrs. shfp-
toinsrs and shipcs ulk ers-Mseting sf
the shiPjoi.ers' Association.
meeting Of the shipIoinsrs' Association Of New York
and vicinity held last evening No q avenue 10
receive tar which has been mposed on each member
Of the society for the purpose Of relieving the distress Of
those who are unable from physical inability to obtain
employment All the membsrs q this organization arc
not strike but nearly tbs whole Of them have OBJ
tained employment at housework.
The meeting was presided ever by Mr.. n. d Grimm,
ex-Presdont OF the Manhattan branch OF the Joners'
Association and Mr.. Geoghegan was appointed
rotary
The chairman said the newspapers under the Inn
preston that the jo ners demanding the usual wa
ges for eight hours labor tina, thy did for ten That was
quite msspprehenson they had not taken into con
sderation the question Of wages They merely took into
account the hoars Of labor and insisted on the same
npht the capitalist sell their labor TO the best ad
vantage That advantage consisted In abridging TWO
hours per day new work. and one hour on old work
II was absolutely necessary 10 ahSdgc the hours oil labor
iDasmnoh they worked evor nine months IN the
year. and in those nine months they produced sunccnt
Tor the market 70 last for twelve month"; and thereby
threw themselves Of actuei employment for three
months in consequence OF ovcv-snppy. The papers
had charged uniform rate Of wages for every per
employed ID their business without reference
70 their qaalincs'ions sSca Was no. tho case Nor
ranging from dollars and cents o
four dollars for all other workmen, although was well
known that uniform rate OF wages bad been charged 70
the merchant THIS injured the merchant, and caused
him pay for Incompetent labor. In order 20 remedy
this the shpioncrs In future propose through their
executive committee 10 work Immediately for the mor
chant captain or agent and do business much
duced term without charging the usual OF percent
age demanded by the employers The shipjoncrs bad
made any other demand but that for the abrdge
they had right TO dispose Of ut tho highest price
the merchant would sell his merchandise. They
ha .taA uaAA fnr m
uniform rate OF wages, the merchants always hiring
whom they pleased Thcy hirod incompetent men to DO
the work. and allowed good competent men TO walk
about the streets With respect to the statement that
trade had been taken out OF the city by the strike the
ways be performed whore the greatest facility for pre-
vailed and as the greatest facilities prevailed In New
York they need have no fear OF the result As TO the
charge by the master builders that The would
to work II they were not ntmidatod, nc stated was
unfounded They had never inundated or attempted 10
intmidate any person He denied that they were an
irresponsible society They regulated their own wages
and their hours OF labor They producing well
consuming class II cost more To produce an ar
tce the cost would a the producer and consequent
iy AZ they were consuming az well A. producing
stating facts known to every man in the room. Il
| was stated by the 'boeses' that tho men would
| not make COMPROMISE The men had no com
| promise TO make. The comproinis should cmanne
from the "bosses" The men had made u demand but
the bosses had made no concession The offer should
from the bosses aud II they wished 10 compro
misc they had II In their power to lay their views before
the executive commitccs of ,hc trades who we're on
In favor nf the eight hour syssfn and OF coopera
lion anon. c trades IL was tho 8ndo organizations
thai annoyed tho chooses " because u this they
got good men, wh1m they must cmpoy at good wages
and thus lecn thc amount OF their trons Tho object
Of ,he wor&mn ! wished the prcss take notice Of
that fact Bpt tr~ Hesnsn could accomplish that
purposc Iio s'ci-y knew the vaSe Of these organ-
gaiions, and vorli permit lhem " be broken
M than would bns permit the joint stock companies
! ~ be dissolved Applause
Amir some remarks from Mr.. Doans Mr.. Riley sad he
had Few words 10 say He had had ap Interview few
DAYS with old gentleman IN drand street, who
said combination was foreign idea He asked him "
he ever knew adv ance In wages being gained without
a combination The genilcmsn said he did not The
brsscs had entered into combination, and N II not
wrong for them 10 do neither could II be wrong for
the The condnc. OF the bosses was founded on
| Rusian idH He named Mr. Chsrcs Smith as
| ono who carried the eight hour system Tho
speaker said a could exhaust he labor In ak
ew hours The poniton the bosses had taken ia this
| mauer founded "A stubborn stupidity They
gudged the workmen 10 breathe the ftsh air The m,
demanded the eight hour system, thai they might
s ~sss che" had bee" driven ren sns
by ana by they would buy lots and sue eed IN budding
up this clay, TINT in twenty ycar the population
would be two millions II II wu practical to carry this
! eight hour system DOT ia Ohio. California and New
Orleans before long Il would DO CARED out all through
the s,lss The merchants were MN ne themselves by
opposing this movement but IL DID not inlurc the
ton among the Dos es. whose proceedings rem nded him
OF the dog In the maBgery Hc held that by The
plnymcnt the jolnors getting tho strike could lat
for months. The strike Of tie Joners would not b.
pat down 49, that Of the eaf drivers was pat down ZAP
planse)
oincrs who have plenty OF employment, at housework.
The bossos ~ tho men r. driving all trade out Ol
city They had bound themsclyes not to give stroke
ol work "A while the strke esistrd aud would not
take a contract Of any kud Was not that combDa.
Mr. BAops said he cDdorsed the views OF the gentle.
Who had already spoken. This ttTlke would lat
sX months. as the iopers could get and gattiug
plenty u homework, which would las, all summer 10
den Cd That there VA any truth In the fcpori that tie
snpcarTrnteTT were going TO resumo work.
fhe Chairman stated that II any person wanted work
he might vbaii Il by calling at the Of The EKccI-
Mr. ErIr rd s A. To- the $50 reward for the apprc.
henson and conviction % those who bad assaulted men
gOng 10 work, for hiss part he beard that such
as ants had been COMMITTED aud lac DID not brlisys
they had taken plnre
several subscriptions having been handed H. tho
meeting passed resolution Of thanks u Ne iiEnto Tor
the II had taken reference this maiie
which the proceedings terminated
LETTER FKOH MEcuAStC.
20 IupAip
In fregar 10 the repnft Of tho Ehipc Npnicfs cauk
and shipjoiners ~ New York Deing g. uurca.
sonnbe IN their demands, and that there hos
been effort made ~ bring the parties together 10
state their aud produce " possible by ucaiofy
means an am'"able aud Jutt settlement Of the dbpuis
will staie, fyr general information that at any ume
~bcn tho sbrlrgiidrrs with for such meeting
have doub that rbo cup~u'-rs, ca'iiksr' and lom
perfectly willing 20 meet ibsm aud debate
have not tho slightest doub, tbst the result
you'd be favorable 10 the merchants aud
per Increase demanded by the boss~s "a fasa
idea There 10 not lobs.~r IN Ne~ Y0rk vho unN-
ling 10 nnsh all conrass a. efhi hours per day ard a
the od price IN tho fac ~ this fact the bu-e if
the mer,bants that '~oud make a difference q
t~sB,y ,hou.and dollAr IN building an otdnsfy rssf
vessel ssy 81 thoassnl tons Any Intelligent No.
ehanir Knows that this 81 verrr cannot huif
and iaunclssd aud the ~ntlfe labor only thai
amount Further. " the nsfrhsnts would look into tis
question ntti. deeper doubt fhsy ~ouia h.
hea ~ the uu,hfaibess 81 'ie ai-se statement. The
shp~rEhy afr ~iIing W prove ~ Their ~oItf
No FANic
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