The evening telegraph. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1864-1918, 1866-06-28

the discusNon may, however, ex end to all other
N Jul Favre- have before us a declaration
the solemn importance Of which no one will think
ignorant ofits tenor, and we shou have some dai
Guilty in expressing an opinion on toe line oil pOhcV
atsta from anS discussion IN presence of the reye,
latioIs which have tu.t been made to us and the
President considers that the desire mantle sted oY
the Government ehOuld meet with no opposition on
the benct es Of the Chamber
Numerous vo ces-lha is true
M. Jules FavIe-As for mysef believe should
be wanunp my duty if at least by an observation
did not request the Chamber TO express its inten:
tiOns, before which ready 10 Incline. will
only remark that what i, now taking place perhaps
constitutes precedent which deserves the most seri:
SSety geO1On With respect 10 the formidable % Sues.
tons which un ortunItely-and ! regret TINS
%eht Wp have Just SSard. Sr On 'aS SnteSg
tn Chamber still hoped, admit that the wl of
ence on the destnies OF the world tmovement)-and
as a desire for peace exists IN this assembly, which
desire not ony TO preserve that precious blessing
Tor France, out TO MAINTAIN 1t throughout EuroJe-
believed that discussion confined within the lin Is
OF prudeI &c and patriotism would not be wi hout
utility Interruption, nolsel Let US uphold the re-
ciprC cal respect due TO our preTogatves, The
cuhve lower has just spoken II the Chamber joins
completely IN the same ideas-(Ye5! yeS! mo con-
tro is possible (lnteruDtIon If we are to a low
events TO be accomplished so that afterwards we
NAV be told 1T is too lat3 to come TO a determine
ton"-tmarks of dssent)-so that our responsibility
is involved have nothing to say. 1 only K for
the dignity of the Chamber and the regu auty of its
dellDerat0ns- noise J. that the President Will
TO put to the ote the question whether the general
discussion shall be passed over prolonged iuter-
NJ. E. Pelletan-we shall now see whether the
Legislative Body will abdicate its functions. IDS
M Bouher-If there is a sentiment common to the
Legis satiye Body, Government and country, it IS
unquestonaby that of a desire Tor the maintenance
OF peaee. tHear, hearl The Government thinks it
has gwen to the Chamber proofs of Its des and of
its efforts to prevent conAct in Europe. At pre-
sent, n. Jules Favre by his language, and NJ Pei
betW cen the Legislative Body and the Government
SVe and G s SPvd
read to you are proof OF the great deerence OF the
Government for the Assembly. (Hear, hear The
question is not of night; on have the power to
discuss and cOntro-5ut Of opportuneness hume
rous marks of assentl-a question OF proprety and
Of conformity with all the traditions OF Parliament
and OF 1rre countries (aear, hear 1t Is for you
TO Judge whether you will commence discussion
(Marss'of assent Cries of 'Vote vote 1"
Glals Bizoin-Restore to US the right of inltia.
Numerous veices-The close! The c'ose!
The PRESIDENT There is no need TO vote at the
present moment. The gene al discussion ON the
Budget has just been opened. NJ Jules Favre has
asked ior leave to speak il he wishes to do the
also to ADDRESS the Chamber, the discussion will
nue; but no one desires to TO the general
cles OF the recfcahve Budget by der of the MInis-
try there is, However, necessity to vote lnless
the closing OF the general discussion in proposed.
NJ. Jules Favre- 1t is absolutely impo sble that
inmate by a vote. The state of the question Is as
tollows:-The Minister has communicated 10
declaration OF the Government; he has added that,
IN lls OPINION, any discussion would be nopportune
One Of the members of the Assem- bly, then rose lie
heved that debate wOu be advisable. He would
be IN his right in saying to his &C leagues that he
point they should tolerate it, even If their duty
was not to allow IL. interruption. such is not,
the Chamber but l also demand that it should
have regard for mIne. My responsibility is indeed
there Would be. not Only for france, but for the
world in general considerable interest in discus.
sion. mo noD Surely there is nothing tactiOus in
this opinion. as it is addressed. dare not say to
your sovereignty, but to your exalted power, which
could never be exercised with more utility. NoIse)
You may hold different opinion; but demand
positively that discussion be opened on the affairs
the Chamber votes the closing OF the general discus
Several volces-The end the end!
Oiher Voces-Go on go on!
The tresident-It the Chamber wishes to c'ose the
| general discussion (noise -
NJ AchIlle Jubinal-We must vote on the point of
| closing the incident,
| Inc President-There is discussion on an in.
cden; but If the Chamber wishes to close the gene
IA discussion lnoise ION the rectifcative Budget,
| the anne may be resumed on the ordinary and
| traordinary estimates. The only question at this
moment is to know whether the Chamber wishes to
close the general discussion on the rectidcative
NJ. du AnTal-1 ask leave to speak.
| Nj. Gais- Bizoin-It is in the closing of the in
cident thar the Chamber has to pronounce (Ies,
The President--M. du Miral has possession of the
| House.
| a. du Niral-I beg to point out that the debate
| which has just taken place in no waV bears on the
| gene raj discussion of the Budget but solely
! incident resulting from declaration made by the
Government. It's, therefore only the closing OF the
discussion on the incident that can be put to the
vote; there is no mproprietY in so doing; think,
| Oh the contrary, there would b5 some utility.
| cries of Eyes, Yes;" Question, question
NJ. Roques. .SalvaZa-Evidenty the incident has
NOTHING TO do with the Budget. (lnterruohon.l
lhe PresiOent-1ou are in error, IG is not out of
the sphere OF the discussion the Budget there
can be no incident unconnected with the debate in
rght to speak for the purpose Ol addressing inter-
| pei atIon TO Government (True, true
! M. Roques-Salyaza-Wha mean Is that we have
received communication, the consequence of which
! is IN my eY es that everything relating to the for
| eign question, now actually opened, must remain,
as far as the Leg satIve Body, Just when
! the communication was made The feeling OF the
NhRC then, TO be put TO the Yote II not the ques-
! tion o. knowing whether the Legisat Body does
| or does no; mean TO mix up the discussion of the
| Cpet in any way. (lnterru ptiOn NOISE For me-
and Tor great portion OF the Chamber the discus
sion ought not TO tear on foreign questions (Cries
| OF No no; :" and renewed interruption
| The President-I am about 10 put to the VOTE
il the Chant or wishes, the closing Of the incident.
| (Yes YesD
| M Ernest Picard-There is a demand for q bal ot
| M. Alfred le ROuX-l wish enlY to saw o few words
in order to fix the hearing OF the vote about TO be
| taken, think With nj. du hiral that we ought TO
| vote on the incident But before the vote desire
to saw, in my own personal name, that the we
are about to give will have the following signIcl
| ton 1--WE are all agreed in desiring the con-
| tinuance OF peace" The document which has just
The Presid nt-Pardon NJ. le Roux, but you
| yourself are now opening discussion. (lnterrup-
| tions in different senses 1 cannot allOW you to
MANY Voices-No! MOI No general discussion,
| RI Alfred 10 RouX-M. Jules Favre and his ir ends
think that there is ground for discussing the qaes-
tion OF foreign policy. (Nosel