The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-09-11

Mr. Hri@iit'si Arguments ut Bir,nirgh s ~, and
Hope for the Peoples Cause.
PROM tho London Times, August 2ai

From tho London Times, August 2si
Mr. Bright apparently thinks himself very paisens
man. for no commenced his speech nj Birmingham by
aluson the trials Of public and especially 20 his
trials which he has borne with eauaniinity though
ency Bot whatever Mr. Bright NAV think Of himsoie
patience is certainly not one Of his virtues The right =
the arsan class the franchise admitted Ia all the
debates last session. admitted both sides Of the
House; all, in fact acreed upon ~ But hccause
alteration notification Mr.. Bright sets bounds "
the INDIGNATION With which no speaks OF the conduct Of
the House. THE BIZ was in'rgued aaain.. IN man.
ner, had almost said more base, bnt viii say more
hateful than have during the .wentythrcs years
that hare sat in tho House OF Commons Now, cas
Ne Bright mention single amendment proposed on the
liberal side OF the House which affected The essentisA
question of tho extension of the franchise, and vas nS
amendment upon machinery and mode Of structure
and intermediate matter onyy What was the nrse
anendmont' Lord Gsosreaos s"1hat the franchise
and redistribution % seats Should he combined
bill, instead Of being separated into two But surety
tho question whether the franchise aud EcdistrbnfioA
should form one instead on two bills Wa question en-
tirey OF machinery and forfu Of bill The House
had plainly right TO have opinion upon suoh
point, without irsnrring the stigma OF deadly
hostility TO the acknowledgements Of the artisan c!AsDL
In fact. ~hat had the amendment to do with The
franchise ut alis We do not here argue the r'ghe
wrong OF the amendment itself. thoagh We thinR
lord Staul-ys argument, that ia order 10 estimate The
efec, O. tho franchise was necessary 70 have bei0ce
ns the new constituencies proposed irresistible The
plain natural verdict OF commcn sense IS tina, RctOrA
bill should I've one bill, dealing with the whole suhJecss
am. those who split into two could only have an att
ncia, expianationto give Of their arrangement Tho
House clearly had right to This view. aud that rias9
was afterwards Acknowledged BY ,hs introdactan E
Redistribution into tho bill Then came CspssiA
triSalon; bal Mr. Brisa, canns, csmtiais
OF tho Houses treatment OF Csp,sia Hayterso
amendments which only escaped defeai b. being wtA-
drawn thea cama Lord sfanley'r proposal for post
whclhos Mr.. Bright allows The right Of opposition -
'thc opposition, whether he includes this propnsee
Of Lord sn,eys among ss 81 @ s., no aoss es
II by a conadesabe majority. Then came Mr.. Wa
poles smsndmen', TO wflc the same observa:,ons -.
EaHn S.l.aHN 40 ap4 al. Ind
csme lord DinSellins amendment. ~
good dua OF this naiciaioi must % elina
nat a. the outset a. wholly improper and rreleyAns
Az We have said, II would be childish to complain -
opposition 10 government bill proceeding from '1Ao
sI,"n Mr. Bright can o.ly mean "a coi0psin Of he
mnistea, side Of the House Bat thereOne amenA~
%en IRON ,s gnsse r rn s touched meme an
exclusively 10 such secondary intermediate matter -
arrangements and mach merry q nigh. form = sse-
mate subject Of d1erence among men agreed upso
Tho obiscts Can the inge nions accuscr twtse
the question Of rect rating basis OF honse va'uatioa
into an ans laousm TO extension OF franchise or po-
cal condemnation Of tho artisan class What IL the state
of tie Gaze thsns bill ls fang upon Tho table Of ~
House with scarcely any noloe--nay whom the form ~
aIusion In Queens epeech such to ies1se
the expectation that will moi lie proposed thai session
ra;s.st ,s ae sss %c%sn' p T s'
principle known and agreed 20; but the most import
ant rsrs OF IFS detail and structure stu rs'aa'ned, abess
which there could be, and certainty would ddefsncD
Of opinion Were the members Of the liberal party -
have no voice and no Judgment upon these nstterst
of the arrangement and machinery of the blt We
cannot say 'his but n they had such right how coaJ4
they exercise Il except by pgopos anendlsnssy Thin
vas the only open 70 them OF exefting such Hhe
Under he circumstances IN which they were placed.
Whom Mg. Brght, then, applies tue spilbsso
'iase and ''haseful" 70 the conduct OF of shs
ncra party in the House last them gross
Injustice. When be attributes 10 o. il,ea CON
trcih this Journal he rot only stl.cs what Is
true. but what y disrrored by article ublIshc4
dnrng the long discussions The bili But with hiD
accustomed arrogance snd inraence he expects nme-
daie submission, and s excessively iTf!tsed by the
slightest delay, the lear clog the wheel He Will sAy
he has waited long for r.iofn; but as We have 01.
planned reform and Reform BILL neren; thinEnL
However long reform may have heon vaguely sD4
indefinitely beforc<r the pablo mind vii wants
lime Tlsre not time gwen Tor the man sststicu
OF legitimate party opinion I'D Judgment upon thu
measure. Thcre was plenty Of time cf eoursa, 10 pass
the bill al once aud in lump Mr.. Bright VIII say thae
time enough; but, then. Mr. Bright docs not make
allowance forthe exer az &c Judgment which grcne
claims with respect 10 important na.ors' measures
iass tse biil, no seems a. saw nmcGs.oy, siinoue
asking question OF making distinction else y0a
an enemy To The stii,an class We proisse
against this summary msllrd o. deailnz Ia ihe
duct OF ,so:ssstUs nrG .dt bitches aud ~
that thev occur onlv shows TINT iacn men. asA
moi machines. lnpedimests 10 arise
men beg 70 thpt definitely OF any measure Thcy
have then for tho first ne The az responsibility
stout ~ SO II has been with tbs hill. Bot tho primes.
plo OF the bIan eyteusioh .. the -ngea noe, ara
hos ing been, Eyer, fresh fact. indeed confirms
this principle We cannot the revelations rcccufiy
msde respecting the constituencies Of 81 large
towns without arriving vi the conclusion that the artisan
class Cannot any ~ pri below large portion -
the shobes electors ~ boneA'v and nd"p endsRcs.
aud that many Of them is. high above tbi. level.