The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1866-11-13

ful as 70 tho manner Of our entering the grounds ~
O How did you enter the grounds that day 7, A. We
further he road a 0'sRs the main "s
trance this gate was standing open thai day, as some
was the nearest way 70 mo house and tina. he other
o va: that aga ssis which woald admit wagons A.
20 Had you eyer been through that gate before 4.
How did you get into .ho house, A. BY the front
@ Had you KEY to the front door, A.nNo. sir. }
q IL q. Had you ever key TO IL A. Never
q Dsdany person take hoid Of Madams Jumers hand
or Of the pan 10 order 10 make her signature A No,
O Is this Exhibiting the win the paper which was
executed on that days a. That 10 the paper. itas
O. Have You stated everything that you said 10
Madame Jume which looked IKE urging her 70 make
q dyou in any other manner than as you have stat
ed suEgest TO her the contents OF her Willy A. Never
y What was your opinion Of Madame Jurnel's capacity
at the time she executed than win and down 20 thai
umeY 4 had never heard suggestion as to her in
II had shonld have sconed to have had anything 70
do with such transaction; thoroughly persuade
ed Of her competency and am 20 10 this day, that
must simply be allowed ssy the responsibility OF
/ any settlement or this case is not upon me- "
The witness was here interrupted by the examining
q How her memorys A. Her memory was
somewhat caprcious; sometimes she would forget at
other tiInes she would be extremely tenacious
O. DO you reooect any acts Of memory on her part
A. Yes sir, she had committed to memory and made
very slight mistakes in repeating H. the form OF
for morning and evening in the prayer book. ae
q. How about the hymns? A. She would repeat
hymns with very slight mistakes. 81 .a3 Y
Y Mnat was your opinion at the time the will was
executed as to whether Mr. Chase and Mrs Perry
interested in the residuary clauses A. believed them
both TO be interested In the residuary clause.
O. State when that you were disabused az the
interest OF Mr. Chase In the rcsduay causeS Never,
until after Madame Jumels death.
Cross. examined by Mr.. O'Conor O. You have spoken
OF Madame Jumol's competency incompetency, In
your opinion did you mean 70 be understood that that
uta ~
OF her iiie1 A. Ispoke Of her at the time the will
executed
Q know you did, and did not know what you
meant did her Incompetence continue TO the end OF her
hfe' a. do not suppose II did.
q When do you suppose she became incompetent
A. do not know that can answer that question pre-
cisey for about month perhaps before death she
was sinking from fall she had
whatp
Q That she was incompetent A. ! cannot nx tho
time of her incompetency 5af U# lU Ut nFA
q Do you mean to say that she was incompetent six
months before her deathY A. ! mean TO say that she
was competent at the time this will was executed and
for more than year afterwards.
That s from April, 1853 TO April 1894; then, from
April 1854, until her death, in July, 1885, you win not
that question; cannot II directly; she might
have been or she may not have been; do not know
that she was not competent TO transact her business
ana 10 know her own purpose, and to execute her
purpose up to within very short time Of her death
can give you fact In reference to this not three weeks
before her death Mr. Chase asked me assist him in
Getting her to alter that will and consented II she was
willing 70 do 90 70 be tho instrument Of having done
& s g. ss Re, sS
, Ssas ss y En- Pas- W. Chase Of having "
9 DID she make any charge against you Of dishoD-
q whenf A. As far az recoect, Il was two or
three months before her death n4 81.
g WIN you say u was not eight months before her
death As far as my memory serves me IL could
not b. more than about thses months.
@ with what did she charge your A. She said that
her hank book was not right w.M NNa fEE
O. Did she charge you with robbing her Of money in
/, Q DID ahs not ssy you had taken her money! A. No.
Q DID you NOT enter into an explanation 10 chow her
that you bad not taken III A. She said that her bank
q. You hsd Change Of her hank book .. that time,
Yes bad charge Of i 10 this sense that drew her
! DID she NOT name large sum % having been taken
ffom her bank account She said her bank account
Q DID she not name the sum OF 5000 as having been
taken from herr A. do not know the amount; I wli
book was wrong; tina, she receiving much from
her annual rentals snd that me had drawn much
g as s;s' 'f "a u e. ;.s s:
9 How Oman did you explain ~ A. Twice,
Q Did she not rsasw shs charge after you nns az.
plainediti A Yes, she did 4.
iime' Yes sir. daughter !hreughout the court
u you win allow me 70 explain wili tell you what
think q y ] may have sa,d ssfcss ees !. e'd no.
had very strong eccsn,neiiiss; never have ,ssd nor
insimased that The time this win was s1scussd she
Ties Of age; shs was sissnsiy ses q
almost every person. but these charges BOT made
make 3 II % ." ssos %
explain how this charge came, quite ready 70 do
NJ Occnor--I do not care about tho dsssls o. u W
pretend such thing We have no doubt tina, /, sss %
tally groundlcas ana unfoundsd. aeN "
accom- panied Mr. wssmors lawyer on the occasion Of
drawing up Madame Jurssls viii. 4HNs ASST
- r.sTnosY ov JOIN p nTEn
Mr John p Butler examined by Mr. O'Con-
o.. on tho part Of the painiins, ~ follows Nn.
q Are you the gcDtleman whore name Ia subscribed
a witness 70 this viii Of Madame Jumslsf A. am.
Q We're you present nj the time Of the Transaction
when Madame JumeI put her name TO this paper
o How many persons were present a, that time
A Four-Mr Smith, Mr. Holland Msdams ana myself
During the time you were there was that viii read
Q. Was any psrt Of ID road to herr A. No, sir
q Did you bear the word WIN uttered whIle you
O How long were you there aliogeiharS A. 4 should
judee about an hour and hair but cannot ray posi-
o What subiecss wers eonvsrsed aboutf A n would
take some time 70 tell what old Madame and myself
wsre talking shout tE
o State u generally. A. About hsr FIRST husband and
about Aaron Burr, her second husband and about
Wages and one thing or Of her all foolish r
. There was . good deal Of ,ais A. Yes; good
mighty "- sue taking s'''' 'sA'' = f'' ar
q Was her attention called 10 this paper by anybody,
Was she called upon TO sgn q by anybody A. Yes,
sir
Q Who called upon her 10 do ~ A. Mr. smith. +
q. How often during the time you tberi A.
Two OF thrce times
q wssm while she Was taking upon other ssbIee.
that he called her for this purposcf A Yes sir while
she talking 10 me In different par Of the
Q What would be say % herr 4. Well Madame,
we had better have this paper signcd |"
q she did not do II when be- thus called npon herr
A. she remarked "Oh, yes, and then the would Get
talking again.
Q And 10 u vent on from Tune 70 timei A. Yes 90
q what was 10 al last that brought the business 70
end 70 get the paper sgpedf A. said 20 the
Madame "u there going 70 BE- anything done want
Il done for 70 70 20 my buslness-I would Hike "
have Il done once, have been bore Ions enough
O j vas then ihs, the signing o. the paper took
piacef A. Yes, sir
q Yoa kne~ tho Madame very well A zee
d How long had you known herr a had sno~n