The New York herald., 1866-06-28


sion may, however, extend TO all other subects thear,
hear.
solemn importance OF which one viii think OF deny
ing. Until moment ago quite ignorant Of its
tenor and We should have some difficulty in expressing
opinion the line OF policy points out; out tho
Minister Of state asks 10 abstain from any discussion
presence OF the revelations which have just been made
us and the President considers that the desire mani
tested by the government should meet with no opposition
on the benches OF the Chamber.
NUMEROUS voIcEs-That Is true.
NJ JuiIs FAvRE-As for myself, | believe should he
wanting in my duty II at least by observation did
not request the Chamber To express It's Intentions before
which am ready TO incline will only remark that
what Is now taking place perhaps consituts prrre>nt
which deserves the most serious meditation We are all
tn., N state o. anxiety with respect 70 h9
regret this deepy-appear 10 be solved by the
document we have Just heard On entering
this Chamber still hoped admit that the will Of tho
Legislative Body might have enormous influence on
the dcstnes Of the word-tmoye entl-and desire
for peace exists this sembly rhicA Is TIE faithful echo
Of The cishes ~ The oy-a desire not only 10 preserve
that precious blessing for France but 10 maintain II
throughout Europel believed that discussion confined
within the limits OF prudence and patriotism would not
the reciprocal respect due prcrogntves The
ecnvc power has just spoken; 4 the Chamber Joins
possible unterrupton.) II We 10 allow events 10
be accomplished SO that afterwards may be told III
Ia too late u come 10 determination lmarks OF ds
scntl-ao that our responsibility h involved, | have
nothing to say only ask for the dignity OF tho Cham
Der and the regularity Of It's deliberations
the President will please to put 20 the the question
whether the general Discussion shall be passed over
prolonged interruptonl
lave Body 'rtH dbdicae rs ttiaotiors tDssentl
81 RouUTR-Ir thcro In sentiment common 20 the
Legislative Body, government and country IL Is unqucs
tonaby that OF desire for the malnenance OF peace.
Hear hesr) The government thinks il has given 10
the Chamber proofs OF s desire and OF s efforts To pre-
vent conflict In Europe Al present, NJ, Jules Favre.
by his language and NJ Pellenn, by his interruption,
appear wish 10 raise between tho Legislative Body and
the government some vague question OF prerogaiive
he alipuI la.D
read to proof OF the great deacnce OF the
ernment for the Assembly Hear, hear) The question
IA not oi rightyon have the power 10 and
control-but OF opportuncness- numerous marks of
assenp-a question of proprcty and of conformity with
lHear hear It Is for you TO judge whether you viii
commence dicussion which tho government declares
TO be inopportune. Marks OF assent Cries Of "Vote
vote. y
81 GLAr. .BIzory Restore 70 tho right OF Initiative.
EusEsoUs VocLs-Thc close. The cose
The PRE- IDESr-Thcre IL no need to vote at the pres
ent moment The general discussion the Budget has
just opened Jules Fayre has asked Tor leave 10
speak; ir he wishes TO do tho Budget 10 general,
and u some other member wishes also 10 address tho
Chamber, the discussion Will coDtnuc but II dc
return TO the general debate, VIII pass 10 tho
examination OF the articles OF the roctcativc Budget
by order Of Ministry; there H. however necessity TO
vote unless the closing OF tho general discussion IS pro
posed tIfear, hear
N. JuIrs FAyHT-It y absolutely impossible tha, the
incident now before the Chamber should not terminate
by a vote The state OF the question Il follows-The
Minister has communicated 70 rs n declaration OF the
government; he has added tina. In his opinion
any d,scusslon would be inopportune; one OF the
members OF the Assembly then rose he dId
not share that idea, but tho contrary believed that
debate would be advisable He would be 10 hts right In
SAYING TO his colleagues that he may the DIS
cussion and that TO certain point they should tolerate
Il, II their duty not TO allow II Interrupt on.l
such :, not. however my preension respect the s'ru.
have a regard for mine Nv respon.ibn,y Is ndeed en-
gagged In the same degree ~ your l think there
would be, not only for irsnce, but for world in gen
efsi considerable interest In discussion. (So y
Surely there nothing factions in this opinion AZ II 10
addressed dare not say to your sovereignty but TO
with more utility. lSose) You may hold dInercnt
opinion; but demand positively that a discussion be
opened the AFFAIRS Of Germany and Italy ask leave
10 speak unless tho Chamber votes the closing OF the
general discuszion. Agitstion.l
sxvEHAI vorns-Tho end, the end.
0rHER VoSrs-Go on, go on.
Tho PnxmpHsv--R the Chamber wishes 10 close The
general discussion--tnorscl-
n. Ac.nLx JussAi--we must vote the point Of
coyine the incident.
Tho Pnrpxu--Tbcre r. no discussion on an incident;
but the Chamber wishes W close fhe general discus
son-lnoiss)-on the recthcstive Budget the may
he resumed the ordinary aud extraordinary estinaic
The only question at this moment is 10 know whether
the Chamber Wishes coso tue general discussion on
the rectincstive Budget Different aovemenix1
". Dr MmAi-I ask leave to speak
GiAs Bvoy-It Is IN the clori,g Of the Incident
that the Chamber has 70 pronounce. (Ycs We.
The PREIDgyi-M Du Nifal has posscSs.or OF tho
House.
NJ no MR,t-I beg 10 point thsi the debate which
has just nkcD place IN no way boar the general dis
ousson Of the Budget but solely Incident result
ing from declaration mafe by the government it,
therefore only the cosing of the discussion on the nci
dent that be put 10 the vote there IL M iDpro.
priely Ia doing think the contrary there would
DO somc utility tcres OF Eyes, yes" Question qres
ton
" Observation-Disclosures the incident has
nothing to do with the Budget tinteuupionl
The PrE-iDEu-Yor are In error II g not ont d tn
sphere of the Discussion the budget Tor there
inc dent une1nnected with the debate IN question
and Juics Fsvrr could no. have had the right H.
speak for The purposo o. addressing Interpolation to
government tfrue, true
w. RoouEs s.Lv1A-what mean II that We have r.
celsed communication the consequence az which ~ IN
eyes that everything relating the foreign question
sctuay opened, r'us ,sis1s ar concerns tho
Legislative Body lust ar when tho cpnrnun ca, on vas
made The feeling Of tho Chamber is that there should
bc no discussion what thon " 70 be put 70 the vote "
no, the question Of knowing whether tho Legislative
BODY does or does not b. mix up the discussion OF
the Budget IN any way nntorrnptlon noise.l For me-
and for great portion o. the Chamber the dIncusnlon
no K aud renewed interruption
The pa1mEsr-i am about 10 put Il the vote, II tho
Chamber wishes the closing of Tie Incident Yes yos
Nr ERrnr PIcArD-TbsTs " n demand for a ballot
AuHyn II Rour-I wish only say fow words
In order 20 Ok the bearing ~ tho vote about 70 be taken
think with v. dn Miral that ought on the
incident. hut before the vote desire say In my
personal name, that the vote about give
viii have ,hs follo~ing lgnlaeatlon We are All
agreed In desiring the continuance Of peace. Tho
document which bss lusi been read 20
The pesnptsr-pardon, e Eour, but you yourclf
seDsesl cannot allow you 20 continue 10 20 doing.
MAsr v@cns-nol no. No general discussion.
N. AfFRrD u EOrr-M Juew fhVre ana his friends
think that bero i ground for dscntsng tue qaes, of
foreign policy. fNoiss
The rSsaDysr-I cannot allow yon oonflnae longer
you obtained leave ~ SPEAK only the position of tho
question, and you are ~ aking on the question itself
Sony MtsHER-The president or the committee ought
certainly 10 be allowed 10 sp.ak
iKvypAL NoiCGs-No. no, the close
N ALsRgD IN Rorr-I -ili ba BRET, gentlemen and
connne myself 70 putting the following question "
jules fzyre, with certain portion ~ the Chamber
thinks thefn room 10 discuss the question Of foreign
policy even after the declaration ~ tho government
Another fraction Of the Chanber vho~. opinion share
thinks that there would be both utlh,y and optornns
ness In not ds61ssng A. and for thai tile Leg.ls
tive Body ~ demanding and voting tho co.a OF the Incl
dent ought ~ give 70 "a vote the following nsniaca-
ton--
H,sr yorps--No, no let =. vote purely and
simply
". ASExp Ia R0ur-And c0nhne myself 70 saying
that thos. sho shall tor N. closing of The csn
think they tho INTEREST," Of The cauury fnol.~l
without At all abdcang the dignity ~ tho Legislative
Body. fresh iDsrrupsiOns
NM Taiss sId 0tiivsa together Anf askcd leave
20 spesk.
MAsY Vofcr--Tbe close. Ag'atnnl
". THfKs%-f ast - sJsak s9Bsn. ~ stf,
The PfEsIDNsT--N. 1hier cannot ALLOW vou 10 A.,