New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1866-01-25

thlCE fOUh OEIV1Os
Several members on the Democratic side said they
Mr.. CosxIia. IN an undertone said that gentleman
on bis side were not responsible for the ears Of gentle
uen on the other side. although they were long
BAlIs ssia tha. tho basis Of representation hav
ing been in effect stricken oat BY the Slavery Con.
stitutonal amendment the question was vhetner INC
Homs should rtsstab;ish II.
Mr.. sHELLABARoER further opposed the resolution
saying there adequate restraint on the exe!u'
sion Of the races and advocated the Amendments OF NJ
Lawrence. bis colleague.
SPEECH or NIB. ELLIOT.
Mr.. ELLIOT .Mass) offered an amendment to Mr.
Lavrance's instructions, namely:
That representative and direct axes shall Do
ssons several states which may be Included within ns
whole number Of ps,ons in ssen State excluding Indians
taxed snd the elective franchise shall not DO denieo OF
abridged in any State sccoont OF RAGS or co
He said be could not give to the resolution reported
from the Com mittee Reconstruction his support &C.
cause 1t asserted by implication that State has right
to s.ss %sss % M snx which
seemed to recognize that right. We could not servo
God and .Mammon. and by such an admission we were
tS%perins with political ;S Asosser the
right TO vote depend on property qualihcaton 20 e.
clude large mass OF mon OF both races; and state
might egisate in such way a. to convert itself from
s'' ' AMESDMESr OF MR.. scHEscx. -,
Mr.. ScBEgcK moved the following amendment to MI
Lawrsuco's instructions: Representatives shai De
apporioned among the several States which may DC
included within this Union according TO the number OF
male citizens 81 years Of age having the quanca
tons f electors for the numerous branch OF tbe
State Legislature The Congress- at their first session
after the ratification Of this amendment BY the required
number OF States shall provide by law for the actual
enumer alton Of such voters and such actual enumea
ton shall be separately made In general census Of the
population Of all the States within every subsequent
term OF ten years In such manner as Congress may BY
law direct The number Of representatives shall not
exceed one for every 100000 OF the populations but each
State shall have at least one representative"
SPEECH OF MR.. PIKE.
Mr. PIKE (Me.) opposed the resolution. It did not,
he commended, compass the purpose for which II was
He. therefore preferred the amendment
offered BY the gentleman from Ohio (Lawrence.) BY
committing the resolution to the Committee, some q
the objections would be removed.
SPEECH OF Mr.. KELLEY.
Mr. KELLEY (Pa said that on the 10th Of January be
took occasion ~ point out slight error IN Constutnn
law into which the President seemed to have ialen
The principle which he had asserte at time having
been contruyerted by the gentleman from Iowa (kas
son. he Keley) now proceeded 10 establish It, he
read from the debates the adoption OF the CoDstu
ton, Mr.. Madison saying;
State Legislatures will sometimes fail refuse to consult the
interest at hs expense of their local convenience
Mr. KELLEY continuing, said: The view Of the ques.
ton was to decide that the Legislatures Of tho
States ought not to Rve the uncontrolled right OF
regulating the times, places and manner OF holding
elections These were words Of great latitude Should
all vote for all the representatives, or all IN the dstcs
vote for member allotted to the district Theso and
many other points would depend On ine neesSSn hen
ever the State Legislatures had favorite measure 70
casey they would take 90 TO mold their
70 favo. the esnddstes they wished 70 PC
lures Of particular States would produce IKE nequs'
ity In the representation In the National Legslstufe
as 4 VA presumabe tnas tne eoanes .as powH,
the latter what danger could there be In gvngs con'
trolling power to the National Legislsturei OF whom
was J. 70 Gonsisti First % senate 2 % chosen ~
Be trusted; then :.iA BE- dan.
gerous Seconds or the Representatives elected y s1e
same people who elect the state Legisatnres: Surely
then h confidence Is due 10 the latter must be que 70
the former 1t seemed - uproperin prinspIe though
il might be less incorect In practice. to give 70 tuo
StaSe Legislatures this great authority over the election
Of the Representatives Of Che people in the General
a. It would be to give 70 the latter nke
power over the election Of their Representatives, tue
state tegislaie NJ meney sSs ronstituton 10 sus
SPEECH OF MIR. BRoMwELL.
Mr. BRoMwELL (llI said that the resolution repofted
BY the Committee allowed its object TO be detected oy
leaving door open TO property or other quahncaion.
30 that the man whom the amendment was designeo 70
protect may be disfrancbised. He favored an amend
ami states In the same proportion Of the whole number
Of the Inhabitants Of each State excluding Indians not
taxed the number VI male voters qualified % vote
for Representatives OF tho most numerous branch OF
the Legislature will allow. He preferred that al toe
smendments shoud be reported In order that they
might all come up together for discussion.
FIR. Cook (fl) satisfied that the resolution re-
ported from the Committee Reconssructiou was the
only which should DO enerafted Ia the
The evils 0mpained Of could not DO remedted save by
tie adoption Of the amendment.
-g SPEECH or Mr.. MARSHALL.
Mr.. MARuAIL (Ill.l In the course Of fcw remarks.
said that he such indications after the election OF
Mr., Lincoln ss to satisfy his mind that the dominant
party desired civil war; for the purpose Of OF
revolution In our svsiem. any smendments 70 we
Consultation of the United States were necessary tn~
was not the time to mako them.
..,t. SPEECH OF NR. scHENcK.
Mr. ScHHSCK (0hio) rea1irmed the views rot merry
exueesed by him In relation to Slavery. and thanked
God that he with others, Was now standing bere IN
order 10 determine what provision should be MADE IN
The midst Of the ruin which the South. BY their EFFORTS
at secession. had produced. He showed the mag
and 10 reply to Mr. Marshall said II the Republican,
rty were revolutionary. II In the direction OF
feedom and equality. and did not become gentle
mar, Improperly calling himself Democrat to object
cradle wretches Of the South xho making themselves
tyrants dprved large portion OF the people OF their
nghts that an opportunity was afforded TO remedy
tho evil Those who oppose could do so only on the
ground that II would solve the difficulty and remove
the negro from the arena Of politics and 30 their oceu.
patton would-be gone. Mr.. Schenck then expaincd0t
length the amendment which he bad submitted.
:. ADJOURNMENT.
The House then. without taking the question. sd.
journed.
TENNESSEE.