The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1865-05-19
GEMS. JOHNSTON and HARDEE
ON THE SITUATION.
Hardee Thinks the Rebel Aristo-
cracy will Have to Go to
Work for a Living.
Joe Johnston Says the Rebels have
Had Enough Of War.
Correspondence Of the N. Y. Herald.
.Ctg GREENSBORO, N. c., May 2, 1865.

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Correspondence Of the NJ Y. Herald.
;C5U GREEssBoRo. N. c., May 2, 1865.
orr AN INTERVIEW WITH HARDRR. . =
This morning Gen. Hardees party left
Raleigh at five o'clock and reached Dur
hams at half-past seven. By invitation
they breakfasted with Gen. Fitzpatrick,
after which they continued on to Green's
boro. ] accompanied the party from Dur
hams. Gen. Hardee received me in very
cordial, generous, unreserved manner.
Him and talked freely on all subjects Of
interest at the present time. In speaking
Of the war, he made this remarkable as
sertion =" Sir, I accept this war as the
providence of God. he intended that the
slave should be free, and now he is free.
Slavery was never a paying institution. I
have often told my friends so. q For in-
stance, my wife owned about ono hundred
negroes; forty of the hundred were use
less for work.. yet she had to feed these
forty, in order to get the work of the
other sixty. The negro will be worse off
for this war. Will any OF your abolition
lists of the North feed and clothe halt a
dozen little children, in order to get the
work of a man and woman? Sir, our
people. can pay the working negroes fair
compensation for their services, and let
them take care of their own. families, and
then have as much left at the end Of the
year as we had under the old system"
"General, do you think we will soon
have real peace?" ~
~ do. think the people of the South
are anxious for it. They wanted it two
years ago. 1 then sawE that our cause
could not succeed" -i"e f .-
"Will we not have guerilla warfare p.
$50 help me God, sir, if we do / am
willing and ready to fight to ,put an end
to it," ra. I'd oN IS 's-&t
SIS the same sentiment entertained by
the other general officers who have been
in the Confederate serYice?"
s.It is, Ihave moth slightest doubt
but they will use every means they can
command to bring quietness and security
again in the land. ., They will in no wise
support those who will not obey the laws. I"
"How will it be in South Carolina ?",,
"South Carolina is the worst whipped
State in the Union" -7ca 81.
"But will not her leading spirits control
the masses !"s~ssG oplAI ~ y
"They, too, are crushed. She has no
leading spirits now. Let me impress upon
you that the people of the South want to
live in peace with the people of the North,
and you will find they will do it. They
will do it cheerfully, provided your govern
mant does resort to harsh measures.
fit does not resort to such measures. I
cannot answer for the consequences. We
staked all on the success of our arms, and
thew failed us, aud now We are willing to
return and live under the laws of the
United States as we find them, although
they may not be as we desire to have
them" ~ 81 ltH 3. $3.50 u ssi 90. IS
"Your officers have DO money. What
are they going to do?" leal1t.& ".. 20 ..''
''They must go to work. The prospect
before them is most gloomy indeed. 1t will
be very hard on old men like me. can
not now commence ,profession.y @. ail-
"Do you think jeff. Davis was pleased
at the assassination of President LincolD?'
az do not think he was, The people of
the South do not like Andy johnson.
How can they, compared to Mr.. Lincoln ?"
Lincoln has been in Office four years. and
knew who he could trust. He has also
learned to govern He had made q name.
He could have done many things for the
South that johnson cannot. l do not be-
lieye that Lincoln was a party man-that
is. that he wss particularly so. johnson Is
a party man. He is new, and the fear is
he will be radical. sIhope he will not, for
the good of the country and the welfare of
the people" I'D. aadn ~ l,a2,, !.
sit is said that JEFF, Davis went off
with several millions in specie. Is it so?"
81 cannot particularly say whether It is
or not, I know that General Johnston
asked Mr.. Davis to order some OF the
troops to be paid off in gold, andhe replied
that he had no control over the money.
He said the most Of 1t had been taken
from the Virginia banks, and that when
these were again ready to receive it be
would see that it was properly returned"
'.Do you think that if Mr.. Davis takes
the money out of the confederacy that he
will retnrn it to the banks?"
II think he will "ap' O. ass''
SIS there much cotton in the South,
General?" r ~ 4
ssOh, yes. And, by the way, and let
me say that it will Cypress the people of
South very much if the government of the
United States confiscates the cotton belong
ny to private individuals. These people