, 1865-10-31
JOHN VAN BUREN AND HIS
PARTY FRIENDS.
Gov. Seymour "a Fool" aud sun.
Accident''---Haskins a 'sStage
Man,


Albany, Oct Is, 1865.
To The Editor OF the Albany Evening Jou.nsl:
Ny attention has been cs1lcd to an article IN
the Journal, asking from me the rest Of the
conversation had between john Van Burrn
aDd myself, Of which he repeated q part In his
Albany speech. Az Mr.. Van Burcn gave thu
public such 3 free rendering 3f what said,
and has delayed 80 long without narIating
what ne sald, Lean account for his reticence
only-ou the ground Of his we'll known mod
esty, and must belieSe that he told part Of the
conversation In order to render the publication
Of the remainder necessary.
MF. Van BurEn seemed anxions about the
probable action of the Union Convention, and
asked NC ''f VIC would nominate Slocum and
the other gentlemen On Tie Democratic ticket
who had heretofore noted With the Union
party" I told him 'tno but thst We would
make clean ticket and have square stand
nc spoke of General Barlow, and said of
him That 'for extraordinary personal courage
and brilliant individual achievement, Ills rec
ord Tas FeEy rcmarkable-"
John said :" Governor Seymour Ind letter
from Judge Denio to read to the TWeddle
Hall Convention, but circumstances rendered
1t necessary for the Governor to leave at such
an early hour that the Judges effort had been
lost to the world"
Said Nr. Van Burcn: ssseymour Is id
fool He spoiled everything at Chicago, aud
has been the cause Of most Of the disasters
Of the Democratic party" suggested that
the Governor had more strength with the
rank and file Of that party than any Of Its
members, and was Its representative mnn.
John said "that was all nonsense !" That
the Governor Was continually declaring
that his friends did not like this and his
friends objected to that. In the good old
days Of the Democratic party,a safd he,
e'shen anybody spoke of Ills friends % not
pleased with any course projected or deter
mined, he meant my father Or Snas Wright
when anybody speaks Of his friends In the
Democratic party now, ho means Mr. Nch-
nond, Mr. Caggcr, or some nan who con.
trolls; but who Seymour refers to whcu he
speaks Of lis friends, nobody knows. II
they exist at az, they DO not appear among
IT. M MreR53essnta1iye pr I hurt ha t J9na
York TVursd, In his LIST OF Democra!lc leaders,
for Marble Is friend Of mine, and his pa
Fer has spoken Of me In the fairest md
kindest way nearly every day for some
months past. Van Buren declared that *sMr.
Seymour was the most extraordinary potlti-
cal accident that had ever appeared In Amer
lean political Ifc. a quiet accident" " said be,
position, and by Keeping still while in office
manages TO conceal lis unitness, and then
tunb1cs into another good place, is compre-
hensible but how man who talks pcrpetu-
ally, both in Office and ont Of Office, and Us
pcrpetually exhibits his Weakness, and being
yord understanding. It Seymour" he con-
iinned, ''has no strength in the Democratic
party Your people make him all that he Is
by abusing lin, which renders It necessary
for our people 10 defend him, because be hap
pens to belong to us. He would have gone
about going under. Bennett pitches into him
in the Herald, and SO CATCHES him by the
hair Of his head and brin.a him to the sur
facc.
Gov Seymour Is now traversing the State
to elect John, and scymour's friends arc shout
inE themselves h0arse to show their apprecia-
tion of Johns e'oqucnce. It Is a magnificent
tribute to the harmonious Democracy, and
moro eminent excmp1tacation Of Christian
meekness and forbcarnncc than even the Al
buny CONVENTION.
Mr. Van Buren, said She did not know why
Unlike the elaims the Governor makes, he
hnd never found 1t difficult 10 escape nominn-
tions. Besides, he was Attorney General
twenty years ago, and 1t Was no particular
honor for man, after the lapse Of twenty
ycars, to 20 into the same hole he came out
OF twenty years belore.
Mr. VanBuren urEed IN bis speech, rs one
of the reasons for repeating our conversation,
that no relation existed between him md my
self, which implied any confidence In regard
to any communication ! might have to make
to him. Tue Tclntion must be reciprocal, so
he gave me the secret history Of the nom[na-
ton for Attorney General. He snld "the
matter was left With tie New York de1cga-
ton, and they selected Haskln (Barnard's
rcferee,> hut the country delegates would not
stand that, and Haskin himself displayed en-
inent good sense In not pressing bis
claims, as he was aware OF his lack Of the
qualifications requisite to discharge credit
ably the duties OF the office; be having
bcen.r said Mr. VanBnren, ia stage man,
I believe" As Mr.. Haskin claims to have
made the Democratic platform and controlled
the convention, thought this did not exhibit
becoming gratitude toward the man who, II
that claim is Just, must have been Mr.. VanBu-
ren's political parent. I trust slr. TanBurcn
will pardon mo for having deferred 50 long,
after his invitation to disclose them, present.
irg his views in regard to Cor. Seymour, the
unqnestioned lender Of his party, and my
friend uaskin, whose persistent courage forced
q patriotic expression from an unwilling con-
vention. Yours, DC,
CMAUSCEY II. DEpEw.