Dayton daily empire. [volume] (Dayton [Ohio]) 1850-1865, 1865-02-01

arms against the Republic ask him in tb,
presence Of this House and Of The Americsr
people, ~ whose door that SIC shall be laid
wherein the siu consists, and by whom il VA,
committed Let the gentleman place il or
the records Of the history Of this country.
Mr.. PENDLErON. | am uot surprised
that this genieman Is toacbed By What
have said upon this subject. Il might be b,
misuhderstood somewhat the exact force ol
the words I ussi Ballhere has been ia the
neiehbGhood u the gentleman, there hav,
been within bis own Stale or near IL. abert
have been in the Northern States, within the
free States, attempts eonstautlyio iufsaet hi.
Constitution; and that believe, as believe
| stand here to-day
Z Mr. JEkCKES. Name the men
NJ. PENDLETON. ! eould DO so, bot !
did not say that the sin Of this rebellion
might be laid at the door Of other people;
said 10 the gentleman from Pennsy lvania
( Mr stevsbs, and II the gentleman from
( Rhode Island stands beside him, be too may
regard it'll said to bin, let him beware how
| be pushed The doctrine that a compact broken
! in one part is broken at al, lest It might be
found tha' 70 the past the compact Of cpafsd-
eraiion may have been broken elseRbsre ,ban
I in the South
WI EhhNo"Ohi n WIZ lhe gentle
man yield 20 me Tor q moment2
Mr. PENnLETON. / must decline for
The present should have concluded what
bad 10 say but tor lbesa Interruptions.
Mr.. FARNSW0RTH Just one mo.
meut
Mr. PENDLEToN. Wen, viii yield 10
the gentlemen
Mr FARNsWORTH fnd in the Con.
gressonal Globe Of ls60-6l proposition
made, | think, from the committee of thirty.
three TO amend the Constitution by interpos-
ing this article
" No amendment shall be made to the
Constitution which will authorize or give 20
Congress the power to abolish or interfere
within any State, with the domestic institu-
tions thereof, including that Of persons held
70 labor or service by the laws Of said State
90 looking over the yeas and nays upon
that amendment | find that the gentlemen
from Ohio voted for amendment
Wish TO inquire of him, il in the winter
OF 1869 snd 1861 it was necessary to amend
the Constitution by putting into it an article
thereafter prohibiting such an amendment Of
the Constitution as would interfere with say-
erS, why It IA that we cannot now adopt an
amendment prohibiting slavery?
Mr. PENDLETON The gentleman oue ht
to know too well the history Of that period in
which he was an actor 10 ask me that dles-
ton. he was, as |, a member Of this House
at that time, and be knows that charpea
we're made upon the Republican party that
they design to do what their history has
shown that they have done, to inteHere with
the institution of slavery in the States, aud
that proposition Of amendment was offered, /
think, by the gentleman from Massachusetts
(Mr. Adams) to test The good faith Of the Re.
publican party
Several MEMnrRs. Oh, no; you are mis-
taken.
Mr. PENDLETON. Was It not offered by
Mr.. Adams2 Well it was offered at a II events |
to test the good faith Of the Republican party. |
Here the hammer fell, the hour having
expired
Mr ASHLEY. move that the gentle.
man have leave to proceed.
Mr.. PENDLEToN, | desire but five min.
utes more.
By unanimous consent the leave was
granted.
Mr. FARNswoRTH win the gentle. |
man yield to me for a moment2 (Cres of
" oh no.')
Mr.. PENDLEToN. Well, not if it is to
press the point which have already answer
ed.
Mr.. FARNSWORTH, do not think the
gentleman from Ohio has answered the
point
Mr. PENDLETON. Sir, will hear the
gentleman.
Mr.. FARNSWORTH. understand that
at that time the power to amend the Consti.
tuition so as to interfere with slavery was not
denied. find that the vote Of the gentleman I
from Ohio tor this amendment Of the Con-
stitution which should prohibit and prevent
further amendment of it allowing us 10
legislate upon the subject Of slavery in the
States was an admission by him OF the pow
er OF Congress and ofthe people TO so amend .
the Consultation. Ii 1t was not why did he
vote for the amendment2
Mr.. PENDLEToN, As / said before the
gentlemen ought 10 know If be does not
know, that the power OF amendment in this
particular was not then admitted by anybodv
who agreed with me. Some gentlemen claim.
ed il; quite a large body of men claimed il
but will venture to say that he will not find
10 the debates that preceded the vote on that
amendment the admission OF any member
who sat upon this side of the Chamber or a
dozen men who sat upon that side of the
Oh ,mberi that he power resided n hree fourtbs
oi the States to make this amendment They
denied that the prohibition was necessary
but, admitting that there was no power. they
did agree, inasmuch as it was not expressly
stated in the Constitution, to vote for that
amendment in order that in ell future time il
might be the subject Of no question what.
ever.
Mr. FARNsWORTH. Nobody at that
time, | think, denied the power Of Congress
and the people to amend the Constitution in
this regard
Mr. PESDLEToN. Upon that point We
differ entirely The gentleman sat here and
so did /. We had our own views Of public
policy, as we have now. 1t may be that we
understood differently the positions which