Daily State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1861-1865, 1865-07-18

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From Special cousspsaasnes y. 7. Trisune'l
GrKAr SALr LAKE Cfrr UrAHt
June Is. 1865
Brigham Young has never called upon stran-
gers. whether public officers OF private citizens.
until they ffst pay their respects to him. But
Mr.. Collar declining 20 give the initial visit. on
Wednesday morning. Brigham Young. Heber
kimbaIl and eight or ten other eonspleuous Lat
ter Day Saints. made a call Of two hours upon
the Speaker and his party At the Salt Lake Hotel.
The conversation was long and rambling. /
give . few detacned portions, rot complete or in
their order: but, think, with substantial cor
rectness and fairness.
Mr. colfAx-How large IL the new tabernacle
which you are completing this SUMNER
Brigham Young-lO0 feet by $50 IL will
seat 5000 or 10000 The sides viii be entirely
open for ventilation during the warm season
Colfsx-We have decided 70 remain over next
Sabbath, hoping TO hear you preach. We want
10 learn more about the doctrines oil YOUR church
from it- highest authority.
Bngham-I sm surprised that you have not
learned them before. But. educated as you have
been, you said: . IL is only delusion. a
fresh form Of religious fanaticism
O-That IL merely your assumption " ho
are suthorized 90 preach among your
b -Everybody who i Ordained We set las
yers, farmers. mechancs-s.l who have toe gifl
to preaching | suppose se have more lan-
guages among u than any ether community 10
the world. IT. the congregation uezt SUNDAY I
could probably call % ffty men Who would
ali preach good sermons ia many different lam
gusges
C-Thsn you certsinly ought 10 be good
takers.
B.-You must Judge Of that Laughter
II any ore OF you are reliprou-ls inclined We
shall be glad 70 have you occupy part Of the
day on Sunday Do not soGie of you preaehl
C.--I think not | fear Se have not eny rel
gion--to speak of
B.-(very emphaticaIly) have
C.-Then We certainly hope 10 hear you
speak of tin the Tabernacle
B.-Nen talk great deal about the myste
ries OF God. when they know nothing about il.
nothing about il. Religion must display itself
in the life. have dealt largely with the people
here Of all classes-Indisns and whites, Latter
Day Saints and others If have ever wronged
any man. let him come forward and | will re
store Is four fold
Chat is the religion believe in--the re-
ligion Of daily life--of justice, charity and love
But. OF course, there is one feature Of your sys-
TEN FROM which We entirely dissent. aud which
we do not consider religion.
B.-fou mean plurality OF wiesZ We have
no more decacy IN talking about that than any
other topic
C.-I have read in one Of the old writer's
st. Augustine. I tnnk-that il Is better TO con
verse OF the things about which we agree than
of those upon which We differ.
B.-Yes, in social intercourse.
Brigham-The rebels always seemed to me
like pampered children. who, after having all
the cakes and candy whistles. finally in pet be
gan 20 kick their father and mother and declared
they would Get up for themselves We Of the
North always supported them I knew they
could not sustain themselves, aud now they have
| have always discouraged our people from try
ing to fnd gold. Its the creates, curse to any
country. Every dollar taken out by the United
States has cost 500. 1t produces anarchy muir
der. thefts vigilance committees. and idlensss.
III we in Utah were to enact the lawiess scenes
which are common 10 all gold countries, the
troops would be sent out against Us at once.
Goliath YOU do not dig the gold others will
come in aud do IL for you. Why DO YOU think
God put il in the mountaiusg
B.-That The people might show just what
they have shovn-their own folly. Ii | could
perform the mitaces-if my faith Was sufficient
Il would seal up ali the gold mines. and keep
them sealed.
During this desrltofy talk, Brigham strongly
intimated that the success aad prosperity of bis
people were miraculous lie twice repeated that
they cannot be annihilated
Yesterday, We returned the call. He resides
in the Presidents Block" an Enclosure OF
nearly ten acres. containing the Thing Office.
Deseret News Office, school house for his own
children, Lion House, with a lion couchant, cut
in sandstone, over the front door, Bee Hive
House, which bears a bee hive upon it's dome,
other buildings for his domestic and business
uses. and ample flower and fruit gardens The
whole is surrounded By wall eleven feet high
of beulders laid in mortar
The porter In his lodge or sentry box where
/ think | saw a revolver hanging beside HIM,
eyed Us closely, but permitted US TO pass. as
We were accompanied By leading Mormon
President" Young, with several dignitares Of
the church. received Us in his large. airy Office
with high walls. maps photographs OF prominent
Latter Day Saints, thographic copy of Bier
sfadt's Sunlight and Shadow. scales for weighing
gold dust, account books. desks and arm chairs.
At first the conversation was heavy aud rather
formal, though Brigham gave us a good deal of
information about farming. &c. Nothing can be
raised without irrigation; bat by the application
of water the soil Is very productive. Corn is a
more uncertain crop than the small grains but
sixty bushels TO the acre - iair yield and ninety
have been produced. he once raised 93l3 bush
els of wheat TO the acre, and 90 bushels of oats
are not uncommon Many farmers leave their
cattle out in winter. but they often die from cold
Coal and iron abound. but the iron he's not yet
been successfully smelted.
At last the discourse turned upon folygamy.
and lively, frank discussion eusuCd. in which
all present. Ca both sides, took part. Brigham
insisted that experience and history. both sacred
and profane, justify It, and posed" the scrip
tural members of our party by asking them to
cite from the Bible single direct prohibition.
But when he admitted that even "a Utah. as else
where, the births OF males and females are
about equal. he seemed little staggered by Mr..
Collar asking low ne accounted tor that TACT il
The Almighty designed more than one wife Tor
each man.
Our Psrty--ls Polyg.my vital ani nsepa
rsble part Of your system
Bhgham-lt j. not in our Book OF Covenant,
and Discipline We did not adopt il of ourselves
bat in consonance with a revelation from God |
vas ordered to enter into Plurality. (rhe Nor
mons invariably use this word Instead of Pc
lygamy Correspondents, 50 were several OF
toe other Brethren But for the Church AZ large
IL IL privilege rather than obligation
Abuses Of il sometimes occur which Il Is GlfliculI
To prevent But We can point 70 the highest
morality. We haze not house OF prostitution.
| don't believe you can h0i four illegi,imate
children 10 the Territory. You all think Plu
ralIty cannot last Now tell "a frankly how YOU
expect il TO be done away