The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1865-07-07
The SOUTH CAROLINA DELE6A-
80. 1905 ts,T 2'ia' TON. '5'sa i b nj. a.
Their Intervie W wilhthe Pres
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Thr President States the CondI
rs i tions Of Restoration b.
II, Condition, Accepted the
T Delegations 81 "a
w.suseros. June VA delegation
from South Carolina, had lsfa this p
following named persS n. n~a aH Mil; t The
N. an interview by T p Isaao = H T. e
President: Judge vs. w i % G IN o 4 A. 4
Geo. W. WilliA, WI .toI f.as
Spoammyefa II GILES and JOS. Alfates.
H. a. t tSres;dE said it was bis intention TO-
talk H nlainT7 so there might be mo misun-
Sar ~ therefore it was better they
shouid16ok each other full inthe face, and
not Xtilate the ancient aguers who, when
th%meet together could smile at their
s.1cess in deceivingi people He said if
dis Union was to be preserved, it must be-
ION the principle of fraternity in Northern;
and Southern States. Maintaining, cers.
tain relations to the government, q State
cannot 20 out Of the Union, and there,
fore, none of them having gone out, we
must deal with the question Of restoration
and reconstruction, !, He suspected that
he was better statesman. than some Of
those now here. Ole always thought
slavery could not be- sustained outside of,
the Constitution Of the United States, and
then, whenever the, experiment was made,
it would be lost. Whether it could or
could not he was for the Union, and If
slavery should endeavor to control the.
government, the government must tri-.
eumph and, slavery perish The instltu-
ton of slavery made the ISSUE, and we.
might as; well meet it like wise and
patriotic men. All institutions must be
subordinate to the government, and isla-
very has given way. he could not if he
would remand it to its former station. He
knew that the slave powers whtm he had
addressed looked upon him as great peo-
pies man and radical, but however nm
pleasant it might be to them he had no
hesitation in saying that before he entered
upon this subject he seemed to raonopolize
sweet potatoes and eatables. For this he
used to be denounced as demagogue.
We had q monopoly South in slaves.
Though he had held slaves he had never
sold one. From Magma Oharta we had de-
rived our ideas of freedom of speech and
liberty of the press, and the property
should not be taken for public use without
Just compensation. Hh had these notions
Of freedom. His mind was therefore OPP
posed to class Legislation. Being proyi-
dentially brought to His present condition,
he intended to exert his power and in1u.
ence in favor of the popular part of this
nation. He proceeded on the principle
that the great masses are not the nush-
rooms about stump which wet weather
supplies He believed that this nation was
sent on q great mission to afford an exam
pie Of freedom and substantial happiness
to all the powers of the EARTH The cm-
stitution Of the United States, lin speaking
of persons to BIB chosen as representatives
in Congress, SAYS that the electors in each
State shall have the qualifications requisite
for electors. Here wefnd resting-place.
This was the POINT at which the rebellion
broke out. ALI the States were in the
2 Union, moving in harmony, but q portion
of them rebe3led, and to some extent sus.
pended and paralyzed the operations Of
this government. There is q constitutional
obligation resting upon the United States
government to put down rebellion, sup
press insurrdction and repel invasion. The
slaves vent into the war as slaves and
q came out frdse men of color. The fiction
of the rebel lion has subsidized The nature
2 and character of very loyal men who were
compelled Ito bow and submit to, the rebel
lion, should now that the rebellion is end
ed, stand equal to loyal men everywhere
hence the wish for restoration, and this
trying to get back the States to the point
atwhich they formerly moved in perfect
harmony. He did not intend to serve any
particular lclique or interest. He would
say to the delegation that slavery is gone
as an institu ton here. There was no hope
that the pep pie of South Carolina could be
admitted into the Senate or House of Rep
resentatives until they had afforded evi.
dence by u cir conduct of this truth. The
policy, NOV that the rebellion is sup
pressed, is not to restore the State govern.
= ment Through military rule, but by the
people. while the war has emancipated
the blacks from slavery, it has also eman.
cipated q large number of white men. he
81 would talk plain, as the delegation had
said that what they desired could 20 to
those who had owned from fifty to one
hundred slaves, and they did not care as
much for the poor white man as they did
for the niger. Those who own land have
the capital to employ help, and therefore
some Of our Northern friends are. deceived
when they, living afar off, think thew car
exercise a greater control over the freed.
men than Southern men who have beer
reared where the institution of slayerT
prevailed. 'a-a sa1 i.
Now he did not want the late slave
holders to control the negro votes agains
white men. Let each State Judge Of tn,
depository of its own political power. Il,
was for emancipation be was for enamel
pating the white man as well as the black
MIR. Holmes asked, is not that alto
eether accomplished2" - a