The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-12-11


under their manipulation backed by Congress and con-
hscaton, he would! humble them and place them in
condition to be admitted to the Union at some future
time This, Of course, places those States out Of the
Union This the correct view Of Mr. Stevens position,
or at least he stated his friends in CONVEX.
saton within the last ten days.
He came to Congress with the determination TO Sc
cure the endorsement Of those views by that body On
the Wednesday previous TO the opening Of the session he
had long interview with the President and then took
bold ground in opposition TO the views and policy OF the
latter He not only opposed and denounced the idea
Of pardoning the late rebels but favored conscaton
In the strongest erms and 70 show that there no mis-
taking his opposition TO the President he said TO him on
that occasion that Sevens did not believe that there
any person in Pennsylvania outside OF tho Office
holders and a<ew personal friends Of their ocala that
endorsed in the least approved his he Presdents)
plan Of reconsructng the South That there not
independent republican in the State in his stevens be-
lief but that ropudiated that policy. This Stevens
opinion upon which he informed the President thai he
should act Mr. johnson appealed to him for harmony
for the sake Of the country, but Stevens would not
change his tone in the least The only thing that he did
do In that interview inconsistent with the above
preston to ask for the pardon Of friend III not
yet known whether the President granted the pardon
or not
This interview with the President took place on Wed
nesday the 10th day Of November On Friday, the LIST
day Of December, there was caucus Of few radicals
At this caucus Stevens and majority Of the Mis-
souri, delegation in the House. with few others from
different sections of the country the object being to have
some mutual understanding to their course in order
that they might concentrate their strength. At that
Mr. Stevens related the substance Of his state
ment TO the President, and then told the gentlemen
present that what they accomplished they would have TO
do in spite Of the President; for he was welded
to his own plan Of reconstruction. During this
meeting the Senate twas Canvassed and they came 70
the conclusion that majority OF that body was inclined
TO be conservative this year. IL termed In radi
son Fears were manifested that tho Senate would sd
init Of the Southern Senator'S and thus defeat their
he radically programme In order to prevent that they
came to the conclusion that they must secure the a
pontmont of joint committee on reconstruction, 70
whom everything relating 10 the admission Of the
Southern States should be referred The resolution ap
pointing this committee should have some provisions
which would prevent one house from admitting
Southern representatives until the other had to
the same decision. In this way 1t thought that
check could be held the Senate and the admission
OF Southern Senators prevented. Some doubt was ex
pressed by present about getting resolution
Of that kind through the Senate but Stevens replied that
it the only mode that he could TO accomplish
that object and If they failed circumstances might pre-.
sent some other mode. But it thought that the
party in the House presented an undivided front the
to array themselves against the House for fear that
measures which they we're interested in might be rejected
in the latter body II was agreed that this plan should
be adopted and Stevens requested to present to
the Congressional TO be held the floor Of the
House on Saturday evening
agreed that 1t would not answer to allow the credentials
Of the Southern members to be referred in the usual way
the Committee Elections for the reason that the
took that direction OF the elected from
the South would get around the members and ngraate
clavar ror
and another from that and thus in effect defeat their
plans and carry out the policy Of the President was
allowed to go the Committee Eec0bns; II referred
at oil it must be to the joint committee reconstruo
ittee might be successful the Importance Of its being
appointed at the opening OF Congress was impressed
upon all present r 1t were delayed for a few days
Stevens, must be done at the very outset. They
must endeayor TO commit both houses to their pro.
gramme the they would be unable carry
through Having secured the passage OF the reso
luton in both houses, then in order 10 prevent anY
change % posy %ss as NJ
States to be represented in other words that there were
such States North Carolina. Alabama, Georgia,
especially mentioned TO be treated the all others
This in their opinion, would dispose Of the question Of
and M ar ,sn 10 a
endorsements to mature Its plan OF
the government Of the Southern Territories which the
President claims as States and liz the period OF their
probation before they admitted TO the Union well
as enumerac the conditions OF their rcsumng their rea
tions.
TIE SECOND CAUCUS
The foregoing statement embodies the substance Of
the proceedings Of the frst radical caucus Another
of the radicals was held the following day al
the OF Senator Pomeroy Of Kansas In the mean
time, however the programme masked out At the hrst
gathering submitted TO Chief Justice Chase, and IL
met his approval. The whole thing gone over at
Pomeroy rooms and rendered. there This meeting Is
said 70 have been exceedingly enthusiastic and larger
than the rst They became 20 wild Ia their radical doc
tncs that Of those present thought the majority
would go crazy One expression used by person
there that he began 70 think they would 60
through the roof Of the house. At this meeting
every person was appointed I committee mite. Of one
OF the house II the Caucus N order that there
might not be any failure IN their securing the sndofse
mont Of the programme by the general caucus Of the
bound 70 IL support as party measure when Il came
before the House on Monday. That wing Of the party
ws al the o ~ s
Of Pennsylvania; Raymond, OF New York; Blaine, Of
Maine spsiding, Of Ohio; washburps Of Illinois, Payne
OF Wisconsin, and Boutwell,, Of Massachusetts,.
This furnished Raymond an opportunity TO administer
q severe blow II not 70 defeat Stevens programme but
instead Of tina. he united IN the IN !, sv or: Of y and
and adopted without debate, as party measure
Thus stevens mot only carried bis point,
private caucus put through with the pretended sup
porters OF the President advocating II Raymond was
used o a. g he Houss on
following Monday as that body organized which
was done, and IL received the entire vote Of the
republicans In that body. These facts leave doubt
Of the intention OF the Of the resolution OF
Stevens object offering H. II places the entire repub
lcan strength the House Of Representatives in
tagonstic position the President and 10 direct and
unequvoca attack upon his reorganization policy
nounced public In his proclamation and speeches
and Message Congress- or this there can be doubt
Those Congressman In the recent elections who an
nounccd their approval Of the Presidents policy have
therefore, gone back upon their promises and placed
themselves on record In opposition 70 the President
srxATE
The resolution still hangs 6rc in the Senate. What
will DO It's fate 10 that body remains 10 be seem The
radicals declare that II will pass Other Sena
tors say that IL will not Another class state that Ten
will be excepted from Its operation and pass In
that shape while others state that II will be modified
the check upon the action OF the Senate by
the House. and then pass With these conflicting views
OF prominent Senators 10 hard to predict The result
One thing s certain the longer II Ia delayed the poorer
It's chance for by that body In the
time Stevens s holding back his resolution, declaring