The New York herald., 1865-05-17

has kind Of reddish skin, kind or pale and light hair
How old MANI A suppose twenty nvs or thirty
Q Have you seen him ofsens A. Yes. I have ssen
him very often; live close ,hers, and used 70 work
him; 90 would 60 TO the door and bring them: knew
him very well by sight
9 Did he hO. the horse all the time after he wa.
the horse and It seemed as though be held him tile
while and removed him out OF my sight; then he re-
coat
@ Then who held the horse when he wen. INF A.
heard commotion 1t seemed AZ though man hsd IL.
but couldn't tell who was; the horse made great
noise stamping about
O. understand you that spangier Just cams 10 the
door, that BOOTH asked him to tell Maddox to come
out and tnen spsnger went In againf A. Yes; and
not am noe certain Maddox came out and Booth then
had some conversation; Icould not tell what it
How long from the time Booth first rode up till the
people said he had shot the PresidentY A suooose an
hour or not quite an hour
9. Did you see the man who held the horse a. the
ime bootn nn OUT and rode awayf A. Yes; I saw him
holding the horse when Booth came out; could not
tell who IL wss he walking the horse up and down;
bootn came oet ana mounted, and IL seemed as II ~
soon a. he touched the horse he was gone was looking
down s the alley 70 see which way he went.
know ha, MADDOX ws. sh, vs %sGn 70
seemed as though he had light coat it was pretty dark
that night and could not distinctly from window
nov IsE va ne from you whom you saw himf A.
About g fss - from that widow; about desn feet
D little loffner
Q WAS not spausler holding the horse, A. I do not
Know; seemed ss though it was between the three
am NOS certain there were shsss altogether who
TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM A. BROWNING.
nAhNED BY JUDGE HOLT.
WIN you state II you are the Private Secretary Of
9, were you with him on the night Of the 18th Of
sent BY wilkes Boothp A. Between the hours OF four
and nve l lott Vice President Johnsons room In the
Capitol; went into the Kirkwood House, where was
boarding win MIN; went up to the offce a. was ac
eustomed to do. and card In my box; Vice Presi-
dent Johnson's box and mine were adjoining mine
No 81 and his No 6s; the clerk OF the hotel Uones)
handed this card to me.
@ What was ts A. Reading from the card)
,. uDon't wish wish to disturb yos are you at homs9-J.
O. You do not know the handwriting OF Booth, do
O. And had acquaintance with him whateveri A.
Yes, had known him when he playing In Nashville,
Tennessee met him several times there that is the
only acquaintance had with him.
Did you understand the card as sent to the Presi
dent yourseY A. AT the time attached no import
had idca Of going TO see him thought he misht
have called on mere acquaintance; but when his
was connected with this affair looked upon II differently
II was very common mistake In the office TO put the
Vice Presidents cards in my box and my cards in his
box.
CROSS s-ExAMrNrD BY MR. posTxp
@ State II you know what time the Vice President
was in his room that dayP A. do not know really, at
what hour He was at the Capitol the greater part Of
the forenoon every day He dinner nve o'clock
do not think he was ont afterward was out myself
and did not return till after the at the theatre
@ Do You know at what time he left his room In tho
morningf A. do not.
@ But he returned at twelves A. l don't know when
he returned. He there at ive and remained In his
room the balance of the evening
@ We're You In his room in the course of the evening"
A. was there think, up to seven or eight o'clock
was not there Afterwards until about eleven o'clock after
the assassination.
rRsrINONY OF MAJOR MELBOURNE KNOX.
MANNED nv JuDGE HOLT.
s.ae Mne'net TO or no. you were on tne lStn OF Apn
this cltyf A. was.
O. Do you among the prisoners at the bar any per
son you saw there that occasionf A. Yes recoect
that ponting OLAughlin who on the direction Of
the court, stood upl
Q. State under what circumstances you saw him, and
what hour and what occurred A. was at the house Of
the Secretary about ten had been the War
Department, and left there about ton that even
General Grant and ME- Grant. the Secretary,
General Barns and wife, Mr. Knapp and wife, Miss Lucy
drsn were there there band playing in front Of the
house; was talking TO Mrs, Grant; the others were
. on the :s OF r..
dren see them stood the tho lower STEP and
va: Va s Leaning ~ ss.n. the railing when this man came
mean the sscretaryf" he said eyes" and think h
ssid 81 ana . lawyer in town, and know him yer,
Of hqusr and told him did not think he could him
then be went the other side of the steps, and
oson and he cam. oass ana ssd ns
inf Excuse me, thought you were the o,cer Of the
mere" he then walked up the steps into the the hall S
and stood there some minutes; went over 70 David
stanton and said, "Do you know that mani" he said
he did not; remarked that he knew che Secretary
very WE'LL but thought he under the influence OF
liquor and said to Mr. D. stanton he had better talk
him out; nr Stanton talked with him few minutes
Q Did he say anything about General Grant In tho
course Of the convsrssonf A. He did not; think Gen.
Q Was be looking in to see the Secretary from his
posonS A. Think the Secretary stood on the steps
could zoe In the paros and In the inside Of the house
there library on one side OF the hall and parlor
the other side; he stood on the side next the library
from which position he could look In the parlor and SEQ
who was there
DO you fee, perfectly certain tina. the prisoner here
is the man you saw on that occasonf feel perfectly
certain he is.
cRoss-SxAxNRp ~ Mr.. COZ.
q Was II moonlight or darkf A. do not recolect
@ Was crowd there serenadng Secretary stantons
A. There wss Va quite large crowd there.
9 Was the crowd close up 10 the stepss A. Yes
y BID the person you saw mngle with the crowdf
dd not notice at all until he walked up the steps
You did not 90 inside the hall while he was thsres
q Did I unde'stand you TO say the Secretary wa.
he and s on .ss
passed BY him o. the right hand side.
O How was be drssseds A. He had on . black
souchsd hat black frock coat and black pants; can
@ Had you seen him befores A. had not
" nave you sincef A. ! nave l saw him week
ago last Sunday here In the prison.
@ Dd you come for the purpose Of Identifying hims
A. did.
@ Did you come in company with Mr. stantous A.
No; came IN company with other persons.
Can you nx the hour at halfpsst ten certainly
II must have been about that left the War Depart
ment At ten walked up and had been there about ten
minutes
TESTIMONY OF JOHN G. HALTER
1xAhfxKD sy JUDGE HOLT
q state whether you know the prisoner 0IAughlin.
A. know man OF that nams.
g. Do you recognize him heres A. Yes-pointing 10
the prisoner.
Q WIN you state whether or not you saw him on the
18th OF April last and 30, where under what CTR
cums'ancesf saw him the night Of the illunIna-
ton-I suppoee the night General Grant came from the
front-st Seer ssry stantop's house
q State what occurred there. A. I was standing on
the steps looking at the illumination; this man ap
preached me and asked " General Grant in; told
him he was; he said he wished N him. sad T. "This
u not an occasion for you 10 him you wish 10 sec
him stop out on the pavement carriage stone you
can see him
u was about nine O'Clock, or . little after