, 1865-02-12

Ent III eftcef o. Inc Con!tderate army. bat not oj
| high renk. I did coubfue his Wotttehntsa win
his iEtclligcncc-haye never discovered NJ mis-. mis-
Dyfhf lpyt-Ihe sssemblape Of this Court il
Department Headquarters.
rs %sds hs a.fe.t Just when
enterprise, and knew I!at II be saw sh.nEs h. h.
wcnld suspect all, and our who]e plan Of arrests
! would be shWattsd; Grey had been clerk in
| many privileges. Then again It was then the
evening Of November 9Th, and on the day or cleo.
TIN ! fst1ed that tie great excitement which
riot If We attempted to make my arrests.
Dr.. Aver. Of Chicago. vas then sworn as q
is his testimony: "a
EVIDENCE OF DE-. AVER.
Ny name is I. Wln.lov aver. and nm n nhv,
sis1.n s pfaet1sing M IN Chicago: have been phy.
deed in Chicago. engage In The speciaI nrac,isa
Of rcahpg throat and chest diseases. / nosscss
an institution for he reception ana Treatment oi
pa5satc S.ts
|. diplomas frcm the ECLECTIC Medical fn1Ieae IN
Cincinnati. Joined the Order called the Sons M oi
Some lime before hat time, whiis make: i1o3 nra.
fsss1oEal Gall on Michigan avenue, met Df.
Winter. We had some conversation on politics.
ana lin 5eff,FnF Was uayp y Ss!a Sas2, SENT M
then said that he Belonged to Democratic orf,er'
which be invited ne to join. He gave nc
Commander Of The order, Which be az asse1tsi em.
it home and read l. but not liking tic sentiments
pnt n1Syr aMny y y sssfet1lfe and determined 70
the mouth ol June, was one evening sittlnr IL
my ofIce. the door Of which communicates With
the hall le2oing to the lodge-room Of the Sons Of
about . meeting Of tho Ord.r. I imnedistelS
thought OF The document had received from Df,
Winner. and determined to investigate this matter
mcrr fully. communicated my eusuicibns TO
Isaac \: Arnold, Member Of Congress- but be aid
not believe in the existence Of any such order.
still tseling pnsat'se5 eooversed The sub
or the Chicago TRIBUNE. Mr.. Rand argei upoa
me Tie Importance OF continuing my ,nyestfgi-
ts9s es9s.nu1 sna Esa4 s as Letter G r %s ,e
gave mo another. letttr to the Governor.
iwcnt 10 Springfield and had .au interyiew With
The Governor; also with Brgadter General Payne,
tnc or my interview with Arnold and Yates,
EsS q 3 E s he ni5t sus
the Order, Judge Morris was presiding as Grand
seig1 !or. There were yarlors speeches made. 4
Grand Council Of Indiana. Ha began bY statine
that lie presumed I'll had seen ths c. .mm1nication
Ct that date IN the Ghlcaco Tins, over the sigma
vas written by him. He edited rs about the seiz.
ure Of the arms in Indiana, that all Was NOT lost
as re- utution would be had or the bullet would be
1ceolted to. He said thar unless restitution Of
nsted: Ills real name was Colonel Walker. at-
hnd:d the meetings REGULARLY every Thursday
On the evening Of the 9Th Of August we had
meeting Of the Order in nhich ths semiannual
election took place, for officers OF the o1eaniza-
elected Grand sesnior Thsro Wa digs ns
sd esso q he es1a s1
tinDs we're 20 complete that a man with bundle
Of TE1ruEEs under his arm could Initiate any
number Of men into The Order. and that some
eain be had been to sec tic higher authorities on
Ee subject Of ehangilg the signs Of tn Order;
d,yulgcd The secret There we're mnuy severe re-
and il IVES stated that il be vas found oa. hs
night, aud never rcttrn- Judge Morris va. there.
Norris made the lret speech. lie u1ade 4 radical
Democratic speech. in which he alluded to the
spoke fthc ncecs.ity Of the Democracy banding
ns a hs Woad be 20
the pppoelt1on party began the disturbance. they
would 60 10 he'll. Hc enid that two regiments
we're formed already, and ono IVES forming; that
they had plenty or arms and ammunition. He
eaid that On IueEday there would bo demand
made for the retn1n Of tho Indiana arms, and II
the hpphcation fatlsd there would oe q resort to
Just as sure rs 1herc is God Ia Heaven OF an Al
olfhonlst in hell. There were different remarks
yr,s ~ Iasmbe5s; don't .smeRbcF that MoEtona or
HaVe beard the release OF these prisoners dis
cussed at lhcee meetings repeatedly. The 6lst set
speech vas made By Doolittle, a LAWYER In thic1-
70. He raid ihat the camp WIS accessible on two
e1des, rnd that the guns wera available; that the
weakest side Of the camp WIS On the west side;
HYnk ri no5 h;
and added cd dr. him, WHEN Will he sit
down, he is telling TOO mneh.'' At the next meet
e tsdan fsa9sS gsRf o1os se s Ct ss
was soldier. He was about thirty years or age,
and IVES In the army. Several spoke Of The releasc
Of the nes aiso epoke Of Tho release of the prs.
oDers. Some Of them urged that the release OF
the prisoners would be dangerous element to let
urged to nnl:e ourselves with The Democratic In.
x1neible c!nb, N order to control that organiza-
non With captains and licutenants, and be pre-
p1are: We were to supply the brains md they | thc
muscle. On Saturday, the s7th Of August, taere
were num6cra coming 70 The city BY trims and
the occupants ail armed, would come from one
eoInfy a.ons, and these men had swo1n that no ar
rests should Be made. Learned this from Mr.
ic Order.
sent Alexander to the acpots to watch the In
reatalces snd purpose Of the atranGcrs1 IN the city.
saw strangers around in the city-they had mus
on Tnssasy ee Se 1sh ' y
tcmber, Ar. Phelps, a resident OF Chicago, on
state street. requested to become member of the
would Do what was Itcht consented to Introduce
him, which cid. Knew Nj. r. very we'll; / BE-
cape q voucher 1or him; did not advise him 10 :
n91 70 , 6aa s1Ss nm my opinion aa to the char
Judge -idrocott-Did Mr. Phelps cver say any
thinS to YOU regarding any armss
Judge Wilson urged that the statements Of
Phelps were not admissible. He was q COM
petent witness, and ii the prosecution wanted
10 know anything nbout him let them place
him on the stand, when the defense could ex-
crcise the right Of cross examination. It was
not fair to bring In the statements of half
dozen outsiders as evidence against the whole
Order.
The objection was ovenuled.
WnnsssEMr: r rhelps stated to me thst he had
se9nby po.a9sy fts e aeenea Eea ds al
minute md memoranda Of all the proceedings,
This conversation was On ths 10th Of September;
was on SEPTEMBER 18th; t saw Geary; judge
Norris spoke to the newly initiated; be :ad there
were 5000 Of the Order in Illinois; that they
vas not espeuine Of Gecieaaa eiecon To- s'ta but It
was all important that the Governor and Lent
Governor shoald be elected, as both Of the Demo-
he was cer1a'n Of the euccess OF the Democracy
In Kentucky and l1dfana, and all that was wanted
Tns to htFc these three States to wrcst this Gov
crnment from the Federal authorities. He de-
nouneed Lincoln rs usurper, md the sold1ers as
Lincoln lirelipge, which was common remarks at
these meetings He stated that intelligence had
tionists had spirited one Gray away, md the De-
nocracy had notified them that unless he was re-
turned saiely, they would burn their houses. He
should be pursued IN spt1hai pChicsso. He % 1emiadei
them that there were $4,000 Of the Order IN The
state, armed md we'll drilled, and Tho would bo
By Tie. .tou4t-1 had very little conversation
with Phelps regarding his Joining the Order.
DID not advise lin to join, nor did give him any
alrntl at. lie did not cnter at my request but
atEed nc to propose him for membership which
did knowing him to be m honest man, aud think
with ue. There was no concert Of action In the
nstter between Mr. Phelps and myself.
CHcraAr1, Feb. 10, 1864.
The examination Of DR.. Aver was then con-
Einued as follows:
At meeting Of the Order On the 10th Of Sep
o1aagf o5aaSgs aa %Sds E 1Sa hs ss hs
% s2d Of September, it was Voted by the order
% T91 not a
posed At that same meeting to directly resist ,he
11aft On this proposition discussion ensued, ia
NalCA II was et4teu that tho Or
Ter was not strong enough In the city to |
prosecute this object IAc member whb |
made iAfs statement Was rcbuked; that the Order |
yrs sufficiently strong In the Statc. The GRIND |
seignioE, Nj. Wilkinson, announced That II any
member Of the Order Was arrested, and three days
aGtice Wss given, be would be taken care of
acsfrs- Alexander, Silver and others were engaged
n this discussion. In which it WIS also stated that
the Order had higher mission, which was, uii-
ratcly, to Eieze the Government. Mr.. Semmes l.
night have been there; cannot eay II other Of the
prisoners we're there. at tho mccung ensuing,
Ae sub1ect ct ar1nk WEE agnin discussed, and Col.
Barrett etated that he had procured all he needed
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