The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1865-07-07
THE. SOUTH CAROLINA DELEGA-
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Their Intervie W wilhthe Pres
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...,. . u. '..t.. lUOuts
Thr President States the COMFY
r. lions Of Restoration T.,
The Conditions Accepted the
Delegation. q.
w,su,neron June 24IA. delegation
MAs Snn.h T,.,o Gina Insisting of the,
t seTa; Oou na,nsd ners,, had late this p
,on or ;nso r bv pointment with the
* n an interview Ts1a W ost, Isaac E. Holmes,
r c0 w w SII W. 81. Gillet, J. A.
S. eo. w. E5derick Whately, James
3Io Tnn1Sr RI. GILES and Jos, Alfates.
H. a. i S,ss;dE said it was bis intention to
III. liz ., sT so there might be no misun-
Sa..ten7g, therefore it was better they
SIhoa,nSI6ok each other full inthe face, and
not rXtilate the ancient aguers who, when
thS meet together could smile at their
s4cess in deceiving people. He said if:
Ibis Union was to be preserved, it must be-
i on the principle Of fraternity in Northern
and Southern States. Maintaining GER
tain relations to the government, State
cannot 90 out of the Union, and there.
fore, none of them having gone out, we
must deal with the question of restoration
and reconstruction. He suspected that
he was better statesman than some of
those now here. He always thought
slavery could not be- sustained outside of
the Constitution of the United States, and
then, whenever the experiment was made,
it would be lost. Whether it could or
could not he was for the Union, and if
slavery should endeavor to control the
government, the government must tri-
umph and. slavery perish. The instltu-
ton of slavery made the issue, and we
might as well meet it like wise and
patriotic men. All institutions must be
subordinate to the government, and sla-
very has given way. He could Motif he
would remand it to its former station. He
knew that the slave powers whom he had
addressed looked upon him as great peo-
pies man and radical, but however I'M
pleasant it might be to them he had no
hesitation in saying that before he entered
upon this subject he seemed to monopolize
sweet potatoes and eatables. For this he
used to be denounced as demagogue.
We had a monopoly South in slaves.
Though he had held slaves he had never
sold one. From Magma lCharta we had de.
rived our ideas of freedom of speech and
liberty of the press, and the property
should not be taken for public use without
just compensation. He had these notions
of freedom. His mind was therefore OPP.
posed to class Legislation. Being proyi.
dentially brought to His present condition
he intended to exert his power and infu.
ence in favor of the popular part of thiG
nation. He proceeded on the principle
that the great maj ses are not the mush.
rooms about a stu IMP which wet weather
supplies. He believed that this nation was
sent on great mission to afford an exam.
pie of freedom and substantial happiness
to all the powers of the earth. The en-.
stitution of the United States, in speaking
of persons to b b chosen as representatives
in Congress, SAYS that the electors in each
State shall have the qualifications requisite
for electors. Here wefind resting-place.
This was the point at which the rebellion
broke out. All the States were in the
Union, moving in harmony, but portion
of them rebeHled, and to some extent sus-
pended and paralyzed the operations o.
this government. There is constitutional
obligation resting upon the United States
government to put down rebellion, sup.
press insure bottom and repel invasion. The
slaves vent into the war as slaves and
came out frd ,e men of color. The fiction
of the rebellion has subsidized. The nature
and character of very loyal men who were
compelled Ito bow and submit to the rebel
lion, should |, now that the rebellion is end.
ed, stand Q quail to loyal men everywhere
hence the wish for restoration, and this
trying to 6 let back the States to the point
at which hey formerly moved in perfect
harmony. He did not intend to serve any
particular clique or interest. He would
say to the delegation that slavery is gone
as an institlu ton here. There was no hope
that the PED pie of South Carolina could be
admitted into the Senate or House of Rep
resentativeIs until they had afforded evi
policy, NOV that the rebellion is sup.
pressed, is not to restore the State govern.
ment Through military rule, but by the
people. While the war has emancipated
the blacks from slavery, it has also eman.
cipated "a large number of white men. He
would talk plain, as the delegation had
said that what they desired could 90 to
those who had owned from fifty to one
hundred slaves, and they did not care as
much for the poor white man as they did
for the niger. Those who own land have
the capital to employ help, and therefore
some of our Northern friends are deceived
/, when they, living afar off, think thew car
exercise a greater control over the freed.
men than Southern men who have beer
reared where the institution of slave
prevailed
Now he did not want the late slave
holders to control the negro votes agains
white men. Let each State judge of tn,
depository of its own political power. a,
was for emancipation he was for emanci
pating the white man as well as the black
Mr.. Holmes asked, Is not that alto
gether Accomplished"