The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1865-05-19
GEMS. JOHNSTON AND HARDEE
ON THE SITUATION.
Hardee Thinks the Rebel Aristo-
cracy will Have to Go to
Work for a Living.
Joe Johnston Says the Rebels have
Had Enough of War.

Had EnOngh Of War.
Correspondence Of the N. Y. Herald
GREENsBoRo, N. c., May 2, 1865.
AN INTERVIEW WITH HARDER. .
This morning Gen. Hardee's party left
Raleigh al five o'clock and reached Dur
hams at half-past seven. By invitation
they breakfasted with Gen. Fitzpatrick,
after which they continued on to Green's
boro. / accompanied the party from Dur
hams. Gen. Hardee received me in very
cordial, generous, unreserved manner.
Him and talked freely on all subjects of
interest at the present time. In speaking
of the war, he made this remarkable as
sertion :" Sir, l accept this war as the
providence of God. He intended that the
slave should be free, and now he is free.
Slavery was never paying institution. I
have often told my friends so. !. For in
stance, my wife owned about one hundred
negroes; forty of the hundred were USE
less for work, yet she had to feed these
forty, in order to get the work of the
other sixty. The negro will be worse off
for this war. Will any Of your abolition
lists of the North feed and clothe half a
dozen little children, in order to get the
work of a man and woman? Sir, our
people can pay the working negroes a fair
compensation for their services, and let
them take care of their own, families, and
then have as much left at the end of the
year as we had under the old system"
"General, do you think we will soon
have real peace?" .--....r
al do. think the people of the South
are anxious for it. They wanted it two
years ago. / then sawIi that our cause
could not succeed" .. ...,.
"Will we not have guerilla warfare9"
$50 help me God, sir, if we do / am
willing and ready to fight to ,put an end
to it." ssG oN
is the same sentiment entertained by
the other general officers who have been
in the Confederate seryice?"
cit is. Ihave not'the slightest doubt
but they will use every means they can
command to bring quietness and security
again in the land. o They will in no wise
support those who will not obey the laws"
"How will it be in South Carolina ?",
"Sopth Carolina is the worst whipped
State in the Union" aa
''But will not her leading spirits control
the masses ~. sGsa "'.E~ ."- =
"They, too, are crushed. She has no
leading spirits now, Let me impress upon
you that the people of the South want to
live in peace with the people of the North,
and you will find they will do it. They
will do it cheerfully, provided your govern
mant does resort to harsh measures.
If it does not resort to such measures, /
cannot answer for the consequences. We
staked all on the success of our arms, and
thew failed us, and now we are willing to
return and live under the laws of the
United States as we find them, although
they may not be as we desire to have
them."I Oh -l# &. g.l.9 q ss.' 90. p.
"Your officers have DO money. What
are they going to do?" -
'sThey must go to work. The prospect
before them is most gloomy indeed. 1t will
be very hard on old men like me. can
not now commence profession su aj,-
eDo you think JEFF. Davis was pleased
at the assassination of President Lncoln?'
sI do not think he was. The people of
the South do not like Andy johnson.
How can they, compared to Mr.. Lincoln p
Lincoln has been in Office four years., and
knew who he could trust. He has also
learned to govern He had made name.
he could have done many things for the
South that johnson cannot. do not be-
lieye that Lincoln was party man-that
is, that he wss particularly SO. johnson is
a party man. He is new, and the fear is
he will be radical. hope he will not, for
the good of the country and the welfare of
the people," I'D ra3 = ~ @ =
lit is said that ,iJeff, Davis went off
with several millions in specie. Is it so?"
81 cannot particularly say whether 1t is
or not. I know that General Johnston
asked Mr.. Davis to order some OF the
troops to be paid off in gold, andhe replied
that he had no control over the money.
He said the most Of 1t had been taken
from the Virginia banks, and that when
these were again ready to receive it be
would see that it was properly returned"
"Do you think that if Mr.. Davis takes
the money out of the confederacy that he
will return it to the banks?"
81 think he will Z" .s Cd .S,-7.
"Is there much cotton in the South,
General?" ey. es.'t 4
"Oh, yes. And, by the way, and let,
me say that it will oppress the people of
South very much if the government of the
United States confiscates the cotton belong.
ng to private individuals. These people