New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1865-02-09

= Nsw.Yort and II you win multiply :; 90 BY you
department Of So. Louis Is than the volnntocr depart
mett Of NewYork. The facts are the samc the world
"ysf IvsrpsS ssve9ds yearly but :AV ppcn o cre
Senatos Field--You fifteen thousand pounds
NJ; Lswrence-Excuse ma l neaa fifteen tbousand
dollars. according TO the Cyclopada returns
IL Paris city Of 500 900 people IRON 100 to 800
sapiers and miners do the who's work Of tho hro de
pattuioIt whereas New York, with about ball the
popuitticn. has body II 900 fremen.
The truth Is under the Of volunteer systeIn,
New York supports tic most expensive Ike department
IN the world.
There are 400 Irresponsible and badly organized
men; they must necossarily DO less efficient IN tee
perform OF their duty. and become often the &c
stro-ers instead Of the II property The fac'
which have addnced OF the experience OF other ctle'
pIe laden with lessons OF instruction 10 tie Clty o.
New.York.
since the adoption Of the paid Fire Department IN
baltimore thcro has been aoonstanily Increasing o.
Of expenditure The IS true IN regard u
CincinnGti Evcry report comes 10 rs laden WIZ
p,ei.es III The paid system. They had the same trou
bles We had. the same braws the same ishs the sie
quaTels and sost the Instant they adopted thIs sys
TEN every hro Is pat out In ID orderly ana proper aH
ner ana AZ cost Of about one hall the Old y s'rln
We say The bill before the Senate Ii proper w. We
cause. iii tie first place. the officers are tnirey lhoe
pc.ccnt OF the men whom they control Inc! aro hoi
IKE The fire Commissioners WHO sit in Judgment upon
rcncr. who are themselves iabie to 10 remoSea 0!
TIE CAei' Engineer who has 70 Ire eecel y ,ao, n
same fremep They are to hold ior term
of egh. YEAR,. which VIII make them inaelen nir
eDt Of any cons Iteration except What then
du'y wond make them take cagnizance OF. lhey aIo
not IN any way responsible to The hremeh Lucy are
not dependent upon them for thelt 'oes ol'er 'nV!
received their appointment, tho sose Question -
bow tie, can lest discharge their duty. iHey wiz
have exclusive management OF al the apparUttS o. the
Department snd viii purchase al the supplies IL W.
~ ~ carry the system. They are to provide proper
supplies and they independent OF any pOtlcaI On
sdeia,i1s because by one VI the secuons oil Tue pis
then nomination 70 any political Office unless Declined
wi ten Gay works forfeiture of their once N TIE
lHe Department:
IL the next place the Committee will find that by the
tenth section of the bill. the expenditures OF these
Metropolitan Fire Commissioners are controlled py
Board OF Revision. .
We suppose that will be q check upon the expendi'
lures under this fire system.
wish 10 soy in conclusion. that all experience shows
that every invention which has been proposed has Dce
bitterly posed nv those holding Office under the OLD
system. The Metropolitan Police bill was opposed.
wGs oppose 20 it Bat experience has SHOWN me
that / was wrong and the bill was nsht;
90 hot think that any candid man can gansay Dui u
was al Improvement. 80 in the present fre pePh'
ment any Improvement proposed hns met win no't a.
t.oduced theY were oppressed by the old engine compa
mics. though il was apparent that the fhldepma en-
giuos could throw stream 10 great hight. IL was
common thing for the hose companies after the miro
dGcton OF tho Philadelphia engines. TO get OUT OF the
WY in order not to be Gated upon 10 feed thhi
engine, and in order that they might ha',
the honor Of PLAYING on the hre hfst thty Wouiu
have a ltile pipe 10 connect with the hydiaLts aud
play upon the fire themselves. lie Introduction q.
steam re ines alec with bitter opposiiion ana
vet there is no sane but wsi say that the INTRO
duction OF the steam engines was an IMPORTANT iu
50 iar us opposition Is concerned We
must expect to meet it. Every improvement VIII nnu
men who viii oppose it, But the question before ths
Committee the question this bill poiniedly prescott
suont is whether the Cities Of New. AID irooS
Iva viii be benefited by this proposed change,
( gg i
hearing the gentlemen the other side, they nave not
aGduced single TACT IN favor OF combining lIe present
system, nnd tlini should the bill become a law TIE
nun who opposed Philadelphia, engines and then tie
steam engines, and then opposed pad department
will sag thai they wrong end that tins bh IS rg"
Tho the men that agpose thiat They are the mem
bers Of existing companies. L have not Ieniu
speech from my one who hos not derived patI"i'
a,e or emoiument or position ION the department
- natural thcy should oppose H. 1t ~ III ne,oioance
" m human ma ure that II should be 20. Bet Ray lOf
the purpose OF furnishing these gentlemen WIN posi-
tons ilom which they may derive sueb PATRONAGE on
eLIo. en, OF position iNe VI! o. sW ~ e,..,,
not be put 10 an annual expense OF SJl3DOu NisDht
obtaining at least adequate System Tor III.
prevention Of fires. l submit that tL.s question oi
economy il something " IDusl attended 10 before oAs
We have a state debt and National debi WAloA AT,
Increasing with iearli rapidiI. lie bu!sehs Ol u.
City Of kewYork are nj present enormous, ahd VAN
the increased expenditures when nc w"I bas .,
stoned those burdens viii he inl oerGb.e II some redue.
ton is not made H. unnecessary expenditures nom We
Ciy Treasury. Anopporlunity presents itseh in tle
uae %
our expenditures aud FIRE system which WIZ AFFORD
greater security 10 property. Trust iSat the Com
m,ttee iii reflect upon these considerations and nat
much reflection will induce them TO report the BIZ la or
ably 10 the Senate.
TIs-1IMoSY OF PRESIDENT ACTON.
Thomas G. Acton President Of the Board OF Police
YVES then called lie said be appeared IA oehAn oI = !,
paid hro department for one reason that be ihoaght u
would cost ess. lie intended 10 show up tLe JUNK
ers" The last Report Of the Police Conu ~
shows that there are l.OB bWkers. Engine to9l"nl
A.. sf.r 4 d q a.
N tot al vote Of a. giving their residence TOE thc en-
eine.hOuee % not memters OF the company; |lni
only - are members. One man voted twice o,'ahe
the names OF the parties iron MT. Naiehtine i.h.
hooks; nave the names all mere copedi th!s Is al the
senator Ficbls-Does it state who they voted forl
Mr. Actor-No, sir 4 think both parties VIII take
ctonce on TINT Engine Company No. !, No ~ 1olCer
ST. twontysix voted IRON tins engine house. o. WHO
even we're not members OF this company: tngn'
Company No. IS, Black joke corner oil BlOnuMh!
and Filty. eighst in tOte Of twenty eight Yotht
from the engine hOssc only thirteen are mehOefr WIN
more than One-na, fifteen, are not members. LhSh'
Company No. 81, IN Ssty-eighth-stp Ihhteehlh DIs
met Twenty second WaIo) out Oi twenty seven 'oIbl
from The en- Kin house twenty three were not meinDcI
II the COMPANY, ana bat four were members. hay
similar facts TO present in regard to Gther companies
Engine Company No b. at No. 435 West Thirty sixth
a. in total vote If ~ from the engine house wer'
not members Of the con pany. In totii vote OF ~
giving them residence at the house oil the company NO
jl2 East IhirtyaIdst. - We're members oI the CON
many and Is were not members. There are l2o OF trsf
engine houses where bnpkers pat mp It Is claimed isS
q good many are single men, But have taken 'n'
trn,hn to tepd round aud GHd out the number O.
married men voting fIoir Engine Company No ~ aDC
ind tina, even married mea vote from engine houses
lave TO charge the Fire department win creating th'
riot OF 1863.
Senator Fields-Tlat DO not believe myseF,
~ Acton-I say they Inauguraied he fiot-got
Upset fire to the fret building in Forty si1tbst thu
was burned--that they went 10 railroad companies ant
got nom q 90 10 al, 200 10 protect their properly
must saw however, that Chief Engineer Decker did hi