The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-05-11


and liberty throughout the land This singular fnc
comes up as evolved ny this debase-that while the erea
Of the Executive Comm'es are convinced VIM s
] ut OF the societysfor 70 me:.,y ,ears--ther
wsrs nose w, did enything in behalf OF the SC
eety, but Who tho contrary ran 2oer hostile 70 IT.
near hear those who, for twenty NV In its nrs
and oiackbaiod IL are now greatly interested ~ w prs
| servaon
voKE-They have not appeared here this morning
ar uAkmsos-tdo not know how many may have ap
poare "ere but say that Mr. Foster has not been th
friend OF Ia, socety-hear, hear.nor the friend Of til
american Anti,s. ~s'y Stondn,d And say the same 0
Mr. PhIIps--that be Gas not seen .ne irend OF I'M
tive COMMITTEES of he society II the only instrument
left to US. and he has desired - strike ~ aown ~
charged II with being the instrument ~ 'ne ad>a'''a
ton ever since the rebellion broke out ..
MT rHLups-l did not overstate the matter woud
not have 1t the blind partisan Of the administration Is
tainy not destroyed the standard itself. would have
made It the representative Of the sentiment of te So
Mr.. FOSTER rose to reply in vindicaon of himself
against the charge Of hostility In years past to the So
Getty but gave way to the ruling Of the Chair that Mr.
Garrison should be perm tied 10 conclude.
Mr. GARRISON tcontnuing)-t mean to say that party
or these earnest advocates for pcrpeuang the society
committee Of the society with the Slavery Stan
ddrd as conducted under the auspices Of tho committee
not the old state Of things when we blended
together like kindred drops into with reference TO
sns soo'y itself This Is question Of nssd Is not
ing work from which principle and vitality is fed What
Is It's efficiency Nothing What accounts do we send
Iorth! None What donations do make TO the trea-
suryf None What means have VIC of continuing its
None We have merely nominal existence
to have more since the nation has become quckencd,
elevated and redeemed and the abolition there
core SO Tar as the determined purpose Of the nation
DO anything, and we would call upon the public In vain
to help US to do anything, because have nothing
special to propose to do. As respects the abolition Of
slavery, we are longer peculiar The society
represented all the abolition sentiment that In the
land Now millions of the people have voted on the
question, and the have sent their verdict for the
abolition OF slavery In the amendment OF the constitution
This is change from darkness to light and in that
change the work Of the society is accomplished. With
regard to giving the black political rights IL Is in
VAN TOT us to DO keeping together society on that
US demanding tho thing. (Appause) Almost all
the loyal press In favor Of going far believe in
are ourselves and throughout the FREQ States you will
find very little opposition to that doctrine We had bet
carry forward an effort to secure the elective franchise
to the ngro we can organize on that basis and
that would be specific and legitimate work. When
the country is filled with the flame OF liberty,
II Is nonsense for US TO keep our little torch
burning Appause) Let not affect to be better than
other people, when are not q whit better and when
oil are with us, and disposed to do all desire have
done. 1t was said this funeral day with US; but
some are gloomy and morbid in proportion as light
abounds and victory efforts And II would
seem as the hour Of the triumph OF universal Justice
is the hour for them to be most dissatisfied and most
they think it is funereal Nay, thanks be to God who
hath given US the victory this is the day hour Of
jubilee and not the day to talk about funerals It tho
day OF resurrection (Appausc Slavery ia its grave
and no power in the world bring slavery back 10 US
or cause aga,n to resume anything Of its old sway
(Appause) The work Is DONE and desire to dissolve
the society. We took up the work when il was unpopu
lar now, when Il has become popular for one, and
Applause and aughtcE)
Mr. FOSTER defended himself against the charge pre-
viousy referred to, being heard with mpatence In an
Of
the society TO the charge OF the retiring one.
MR.. PHILLIPS REPLY.
Mr. PHILLIPS then took the stand, and proceeded to
reply He said Mr. Garrison truly observes that this Ia
not question OF principc-that Is merely question
Of means Certainly that Is true But long before this
tme-in 1S33-the formation Of the American Anti.
Slavery Society was not question Of principle but
question of means. A man must thon have been an
abolitionst and work without tho principle OF assocIa
ton And when ;eebe of coadutors in Philade
phia formed the first society there any then would
have had night to say 70 them, as he might say now
this is not question Of principle is only question OF
means That, however, did not place us on lower
level than where we actually stood The first question
means an additional strength in doing that work. I
answer both these questions afirmatvey. There is
dtonal means OF doing It, l agree most cordially with
my friend when be speaks Of the amount Of work
pant the sky BRIGHT but that viii rcoce a.
the lines his pencil draws. I agree with him In
all that But to TO the controversy raised TO the
-4mericcD AniSiaveyy Standard Ny complaint
against the Standard Is that for two years It has
done Its work My friend says that oil the loyal papers
are in harmony with the Standard They have en- So
II is trre for tho last years But that Is exactly the
ground Of my complaint originally instructed Il to
start tho exponent Of the principles OF the Executive
Communicable announce such truths and to cnuncate
such doctrines as would most conduce to elevate the
community BIT mover instructed 1t to stand upon the
level OF the republican party. Now, my charge against
the Stindlfd Is that when the community ready
for the general idea Of emancipation by the power
the Standard stood there still and would not 60 beyond
that point.
BAYoNErNG PRESIDENT.
went above and beyond that and strove to bayonet
tho President into the procamat on OF emancipation
After time the Standard ratified that view.
Then took another step In advance and changed my
base demand ing the peoples amendment OF the consti
tuition But what did the Standard dor Retained its
position-stood where it was-and 1t was some time
before took ground favor Of the amendment the
constitution in regard TO slavery that had been 90 long
advocating.
ANOTHER CHANGE or nssE
When the amendment to the constitution adopted
changed my bse and went to demand the guarantee
in parchment and having embodied in the national
parchment even then want vitality behind IL, and
universal suffrage TO cripple states rights II bad
time TO talk OF dissovng the society when scarcely
there seven men out OF ten in favor OF extending Hhe
night OF suffrage to the negro.
obsg OF Tnk srASD,RD coSTRovrRsY.
So much Tor ilc criticism made regard my
position with reference TO the American An.t-Stouery
standard
oTurR ISSUES
With regard TO other points weird on tho question
of efficiency. My friend says sc publish no rcportsthat
we have moi largo trcasurynOt many agents He says
that since 1851 had "a sort Of without life. The
moment II gees forth to the world that the association is
dissolved thai moment the work tor good done. No
has then any money to give. But If the banner OF
the society Is s,ii kept aloft and il Is known that
leader and captain Garrison the dcck-iappIansc)-
The leader and captain OF thirty year5then II will be
known that the of the oppressed Is stiI cause,
and money and means will not be wanting W aid US.
Slavery still lives
Mr. GARmsoS-ln 1861 you declared that slavery had
received its death blow.
Mr.. pmIns--Can | not grow wiserf daughter and
applause
Mr GlRms1S--In 1851, when nothing had been done,
when vi tory had not been vouchsafd to army any
where, when the south triumphant and slave own
rampant and the pep tualion OF Mo system almost
decreed, our friend said that slavery dead and
now, in 1868, he says II Is not dead, and claims
the right To grow wiser daughter aud applausc.)
Mr. PHILLIPS here proceeded to read letters from
correspondents Louisiana and Delaware slavery that
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