The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-08-19

| O. Had you any other interview with himS A No
On Saturday and where these funds weeeS A. He said he
had deposited large amount IN an up town bank, the
4 TradesInen S Bank. sll fsr l'ist
tMr Rodman here objected to the answer sntl it ap-
Mr. Grssnieai-The M Tradesmen's Bank was not where
e How much did he say he depdsitedf A. Over
wardsi A. have seen several Of the checks on that
bank 70 which the money was paid lssn $3.50
9 TO whose order were these checks drawn Object
Justice Dowling-The check itself is the best proof
| Do you know 70 whom any OF that money was
Mr. Rodman, counsel for defendant-You want TO vio-
late the law BY proving the contents Of checks but
l shall not do 1t without my consent.
Mr. Aillken-I imagine the whole proceedings in this
case were against your consent stg
chanics' Bank, will that prove . frauds All checks
drawn Mr. Mumford's bank shall be produced at the
nextsins and let these proceedngsbe suspended until
q Who Is your clerk who attends to your cash mat
ters, II anyY A. Cornelius Ward
Is he present. In what capacity Is he In your nrmp
Head clerk; he has authority from the nrm to trans
there any other facts relating 70 this matters
ATTACK NUMroRp's HOUSE.
Did he not say to you that party Of had
70 ns house at Flashing on the Saturday night and had
endeavored to break into his house, and great
that they had returned the house twice during
the same night or on Sunday morning. and that he
one Of that party, words that efectf A. he said
that party had been 70 his house Saturday night
turbance, or wordsO tina. effect ana asked me il was
party to IL; told him that was not
% Did he not say that that party had tried e break
used the words sgetting into his house"
Q Did you not say to him that you there your.
self or had representative there words that eectf
A. he asked me IL was there; said was not there;
did not say was represented there.
@ What did you say on that subjcets A. said that
parties who were there responsible for what they
did; think asked him why he not at home like
honest man; used the expression several times during
the day in conversation.
Q Do you know that he not thereS A. do not
g Were you theres A. was mot; ! was at home.
q Had you or your firm q representative theref A.
don't know from my own personal knowledge; only
know by conversation
Q Conversation with whoms A. With one Of my
@ Which partner A. Mr. Norris
Did he tell you that your partner had representa-
Q. Did he tell you he was there2 (Obecsed to)
DID he tell you who was there as your representa-
Q Had s You any VI further conversation with Mr. Num-
% a,s6 n q On IN s Ss, to the
non! A. think only SAW him on Monday and Wed
nesday; had an interview on Wednesday
Q. How long was that before the time he was
resiedf A. l do not know; think the conversation
took place about one O'Clock. u
@ Was IL not nearer two than one O'Clock! A. dare
say 1t was between one and two.
@ Did yon the officer who arrested him on that
dayf A. i saw the officer who supposed would arrest
Q. When did you see the oficers A. saw him in my
Office AZ one time on that dav and 1 saw him in ~
change place IN the street ON another dav 80
O. Were both those interviews with t6e od,cer before
Won saw Mr. humfordY AZ saw the oaicer tcfora ana
after saw Mr. Mnmsord a. -" '"o o"'''' '''o'e anu
How long before YOU saw Mr. Mumford was the first
interview with the ohcers A. think saw the officer
q Did you see him again before you saw Mr. Mumford
after that interview in the morning. A. think did.
@ How long was that before you saw Mr.. Mumfordf
A. very short time-a few minutes
O where did that interview with Me officer take
a. How tar n ycIr ONCE from Mumford,ss A About
half block -
A. Yes did -"
Q IN his Officer A Yes, I did.
9 Had conversation with him then in regard
the preparation OF the statement OF his Affairs A.
did. ..t,s.
asked him how he was getting on: he said the bank
was making up his passbook.
O. Did you not ask him to hurry up the statemcntS
A. Could positively; very likely did, said very
little ON the occasion. VI
How soon after that interview did You see the
officer, and where did you meet hims A. Within Ave
minutes in Exchange place. near our ofce In the street
e. Was it not nearer to Mumford's Once than yours'
A. May have been; the distance is only short.
Mr. Aumfords Office isg A. think not; not quite
positive, to my recollection, did not
Did you not leave The officer before making visit
vencd
= Did You no, return nom nm hamiords t once imme:
A. saw the officer almost Immediately afterwards;
told him Mumiord was IN the Office; presume l told
him he had better make an arrest; said was satisfied
from his interview that he was concealng somethng
the officer had warrant with him for his arrest and
there for that purpose.
q Az these Interviews in Mr. Mumfofd's onice, ON
Monday and "Wednesday, were other creditors of Mr. 4
hum0Id presenu A. On Monday there were several
O. wer. his statements to You, 70 which you have ,es
.,ne" msoe ~ presence OF ana IN ne nearing u .nose
credprss A. ssked him one or Two questions before
any one else came M there were number OF creditors
there when the statement was made IN the same room
was very smsu roomf A. fes' very small
one. ........,
Ncrs POI me statements maae, IN Whole or ia pari
70 Tue creditofs schefsiy9 a; ! 50 supposed urm ms
couhs'i was pres'n,' hI houman; nc ,sa ne ans'sca
nih nvl !" say much 'nis occutrea on sonu.y
Ha nos s-me u 'iie sreui'ois ts.eht 10 'he pro-
pie'y " tnat susgesuonf tonected 10. 49,
y was " understood there w you ana other credit.
OTIS uht statement should De prepared ana exnipheu
Vtyectea toJ -.
= And that !, should % be done ey wednesday u