New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1865-09-16

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upon the reseeded lind Is there a change in the ele.
ment Of the so' Il is not for want Of fertility for the
turned sod produced great crops of corn barley eto
bnt did not produce good crop, Of grass with ma
nurc I'll slted and plastcred. Now pastures are not
cs fat,enng as old ones and believe hest to doctor
and restore sick pastures; that IL Is suicidal to plog
them. 1t ia cheaper to rest them and when weedy
destroy the Weeds but not the old soil that must be
renovated.
In Hel kimer County the old sod wants mineral fer
tisers such sat- plaster booe dust. II Is cheaper
for Id To buy grain thsn 10 grow 1t. we may plow
meadows AID renew, pastures mlstrrnGvdte, aud n
tired rest mud reseed and dress with go lbs plaster
anu three brreis ~ ashes per acre. Ashes are
worth 25cts. per busbel for this purpose We 90 not
Ike 10 pastures with COW Inanute; We prefer de'
composed horse-droppings 1 would advise dressing
with i0rtv bushels line per acre Ii Is Drleyed that
the nilk from old pastures IL richer in cascn and but
ter than from seeded land. and they are also 'r
est; White clover is valuable aad Indigenous. and
makes good milk Food certinly Influences the yalu"
Oh milk Overstocking pasture is bad policy II weeds
are allow to rpen seeds. they soon destroy pastures
!, Is e,ou policy to scarfy sod. have sawdust to
absorb liquid manure and that for top dressing
John stanton Gould followed Mr.. Willard fdly en-
aotshg al he mad said IN favor of permanent pastures
believing 1t loss for farmer TO ATTEMPT their renova
,ioh Dy piowlng He may get an apparent addition TO
Dis crop Of grass but he examines he will find great
many naked spots. In Old pasture we find MI the
grasses suited to that soil II we sow for n new Das
ture we should uss variety OF seeds Meadow Fox
TAI IL valuable early Sort of great value and so il
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Kentucky blue grass which il hero qeneraIiv c.ieJ
june grass. Farmers dislike qusok grass in now L,nd
but 1t Is good In pasture and makes rich milk 1t takes
new pasture long time TO get in all the valuable
sorts that abound in old pastures II the space is no
nl occupied with grass. weeds will abound 1t is sd.
yisable to withdraw cattle some Seasons and manure
aud NOW to kill weeds For all pasture land bone
Is valuable
Geo. Geddes. Onondaga County. inquired Of Mir.
Willard how many cows per acr, Hrrkimer County
farms could kept The answer was one COW to two
acres.
IIe them asked the President who made up the most
valuable statistical work published In the State If
he did not md more c,tt.e per acre In the gram
districts than In the dairy region. aud was answered
that he did.
Then. said Mr.. Geddes. the cause Ia that we often
renew our pastures. which enables us " keep more
stock and make more profit. He was decidedly opposed
othe policy OF permanent pastures wherever the land
was tilablo.
John Kelsey related his experience with 1.-THE Yard.
ley farm in Pennsylvania, which he bought cheap IN
1853 because run out" One meadow of 10 acres Only
gave two loads ~ hay II IS full Of blue grass, 50
Called fat blue blade, almost worthless. with i'm.
meuse roots He powcd and rakcd out % loads Of these
roots and reseeded and cut since 10 to % loads of
hay year. Timothy If thick sowD. VIII cover the soil
II 1t is clean In time, - well rs any other grass lie
spoke Of English meadows. where scarcely weed is
seen upon a hundred acres
JOSEPH Harris-Tbe blue grass" spoken Of is one
OF the kinds of quach grass very troublesome in
plowed land.
Mr.. Kelsey said il cannot be killed by blowing.
1t mast b. raked out and dried 70 death in the sun
II. IL.
sidence of John johnson. ours is a mesto soil
.,nd frequent seeding We find most profitable. Say
every third fourth year, one peck OF Timothy seed IN
Autumn and peck Of clover seed in Spring. when we
dress with bn,hel OF plaster rpon the wheat When
that Is cnt the land Is well setwi.h grass which gives
greatly increasing crop next year. and pasdre for three
years that you not easily oyesock. together With
rich milk.
Mr.. Kelsey remarked that the same course was fol
lowed in Pennsylvanii using Herds grass and red top
The Rev Mr.. LOOMS. editor and farmer In llerNmer
lf.nf tanl in fha Az
pastures lie knew not plowed for 80 years better
now than Part OF 1t, though pasured. moved this
year tun per acre. Another pasture partly broken
up aud resceded Is not now after years as good as
the unbrOken part IL requires years 10 get good pas
tn 9 and old better than new for butter or cheese
II beef can be made by blowing bu, 1t is
profitable to make butter and cheese upon perna
ncnt PASTURE and he offered TO the trsl for profit
with such farm OF no acres against any grain farm III
the State OF equal size.
Mr.. Geddes said: That grain farmers do carry more
cattle per u fixed fact and there is use OF
betting upon the subject He has a pasture that has
not beon powed for 10 years but the question is not
about powIng impracticable Pastures, but tillable
land. He believed Iierkimer County. by blowing
could keep more stock. The policy Is good for us to
SOW timothy and clover with wheat.
Scion Robinson. inquired Of Mr. LOOMS how many
cattle cond be kept upoa the farm OF ITO acres The
answer VIA 81 which Mr.. Geddes said was about one
81 three and ahaf acres. which 10 no more than many
OF the grain farmers Of OnoDdaga keep. or their
oquyalf Mt, counting eight sheep la cow and they
sold large crops OF grain and wool In private CONVEX
sutton, Mr. GcIdCs told tnat bis James. VINO
manage. the old homestead has now larger per cont of
stock than generally To be found upon Of the per
anont pasture FARMS aud is certain BIO thinks. that
they might greatly increase their dairy products by
folio wing the same course Of mixed husbandry.
Mr. Peterson stated his belief, that by blowing and
cuitlNating he can carry two cows per acre.
Sol Wairath II. Lawrence County. Is sure that Her
kimer County farmers mistaken In their policy OF
permanent pasture lie piows and sows grass. and
don't grow weeds.
Mr.. LOOMS is no, satisfied with statements Of opin
ions; he wants actual experiments tried. TO prove
which course is best.
". b. Arnold, Oteso. Otsego County has become
satisfied that il is best for hun to lay aside the pow
When he bought his farm. some years ago, 1t carried
10 cows and they averaged 100 lbs. of butter. Now
from use of ashes and plaster he carries "a to 10 COWS
aud averages 20 lbs. Of butter besides keeping other
cattle Iif experience proves that he can make more
batter aud cheese. not ~ pow.
Mr.. walker. Oswego County-There Is no general
rule applicable To all parts Ny practice is 10 pillow and
get two crops and then seed with IL 10 10 quarts and
nov Two three years; then pasture and topdIess.
and when pasture begins to fail pow again Some soil
never will produce grass till worked and forest tree
roots worked out. We are becoming n cheese making
oounty-haye started - factories. believe In plOw
ing and ubsoing so that air aud water eau get down.
| don't believe in top-dressng IN Winter.
Mr. Sandtord, Oswego-l have tried TO renovate
grass Land but cannot do IL except by the pow. de-
pend upon thorough stirring and making good seed.
bed
Mr. Hoyt Casenoya, Madison Co.. thought it likely
that some Of the Mohawk flats best in permanent
sod but where he lives It is most profitable 20 pIow
Without rcseedng, pasture iurs out Adaptabty Is
the great matter TO study With HIM tho plow was lnds
pensabe.
The President emirked that there not farm Of
great IN the state that had not diversity OF
OIL requiring different treatment. Only about 10 per
cent Of the STATE in adapted Ia grain farming and ~
Der cent 10 dairy farming. What would be good farm
w IN one region would not be in another Ii must be
adapted 10 locality W. must not attempt 10 make any
ystem universal, In conclusion remark that the large
hall was ded beyond its capacity for comor. with
ARREST attentive listeners 70 what was SAID WHOM
proyed the remark OF Mr.. Peters about the interest
,kcn III these meetings.
SECOND DAY.