The New York herald., 1865-05-19
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q. For what reason to -
0bjeced to by Mr.. Eakin.
@ While yon in the War Department did this
MAD HsweR teach you cpher' A. Yes, sir he showed
9 VIVA. was the purpose Of his teaching you the
eIpnerr A. He stated no particular purpose.
O. Was not FOR the purpose Of corresponding with
youfrom Richmondf A. No, cir; he made no such ar
anss%sn' 5 S 70, corresponding the cipher alphabet WAS
poem of Longfellows 10 this cipher, and that s tho
only use made Of ~ showed the poem, written in that
cipher, 10 M. Cruikshank, Of the War; Department
Q Is that all the you made Of the cipher
Yes, sir never had word OF correspondence with
Howell and never saw him the second time until saw
Q Was any objectionaever made by any OF these prs
ones at the bar TO your being present at their converse
drew themielves when surratt was in the parlor he
would converse with for about ve minutes gene
Booth would give him nudge, and they would GO and
SIT up stairs for two or three hours never had word
OF private conversation with them which would not
O. Did Howell give you the key to that cipher A.
ne showed me the cipher or alphabet, and how 10
use II.
O. He taught you II, did no mott A. made NO use Of
whatever, except upon that particular OCCASION when
showed tito Mr.. Cruikshank
That was not On answer 70 my question. He taughS
you the cipher, did ho mott A. WeA, yes, ar.
z Nov, according 70 the best OF your recollection,
A. he had returned from New York. and he did MOI tell
me when he had returned from Richmond, because II
Ss @ .rd % q: %
nickname around the house "Spencsr;n he had
peen IN the house day or day and half befOSe met
g Did hs ssl you sha. that was the cipher used in
served in shssr coavsr!.IOu whs II your prsssncs
A. They spoke In my presence general topics and 20
ooi they osvsr spoke % Of their private business
In ell your conversations with them you learned
Of any Intended REASONABLE act or conspiracy Of thsirf
world 70 bsvc suspses.d John ssr,as ny schooi@s.s
and companion, Of the murder Of the Prssdsnt Of the
You state tina. your suspcons were aroused At one
suspicious aroused BY John surralt and BY this
pcions again aroused BY their frequent private
versations BY seeing Payne and Sunatt with bovie
hnveS and by nnains false mu.schs IN n my room.
thought he going take long rdsin the country,
And that perhaps he was going South
Then, as your suspicious aroused on al those
different occasions and you had TO boheve there
was something in the wind that improper, did you
A. Ny suspicious were not Of nxed or definite Charsc
ter; did not know what they intended TO do; made
cmtddnte OF Captain Gleason, OF the War Department,
and told him that Booth was 4 secret sympathiser;
mentioned snatches OF the oonvsrsaton had heard,
aS We then talked over what they might possibly Se
At; whether they could be bearers Of despatches or
ss o Ts
capture the President" He laughed and booted ~ the
@ You did then hear Of proposition Of thss klnds A.
did not bear IT, but It freely discussed In the pa
viii Zee 1 me.;ionsd there; S css msss; casual r..
mark that made; these suspcion were aroused In my
mind after tAe horseback ride; ssmssksd . cspsA,a
wha, they bed been after had fsIisd.
How came you 70 connscs the matter Of the captuss
oItse Prssesnt Of Which you rssd In shs aswapspsss,
The qaes.isn vss objected Z, ~ Judge BuoaAu - -.
ing wholly ammasss.al and irsisvanl
The objsotion was sustained
Were you On intimate Pse.s.sl .saat!s.s With ne
%.sy = ne ssssu. Us s no. us'. y s,
heess net Atsseott and was q the thsasss with I'm
Itocksd upeDulm. - did every In ths house. :
9 Bat ysa wsss sohoel.sAs wssh yoAn susvssss A
sssa aarast ss1 esse ny eespasien Tor ,s,ss yesss
ss s :s :s s. .S:. s: ~ :.p.s: :: e
e: q so .o!
,s x:: be ::n ~: as - r sos 70 engage IN
You aiS ncs @ rso" VI ws.s = ss - ~:: csu.snp,.Iss;
Iesssr forfeited my friendship; h fersisd his fssd
How 20; By induIgng h cotton spscuiaatoosf A.
No, sir; BY placing me In the position In which am
now; l think Of the swo was more ~ frsend 70 hin
By Mr.. EwNo-Q You spoke Of reaAiag publication
N the Tribune Of March fe referring To plot 10 capture
@ Can you uo BY connecting that circumstance with
Che ride which these parties had In the country x
definitely the time Of that ride whether before after
tbe date Of that publications think II after IL;
would also state that saw in the Washington RepuNi
Of President Lincoln and Surratt once made remark 70
me that II he succeeded in bis cotton specuations bis
country would love i'm forever and his name would 60
down TO posterity forever green.
@ Yoa think, then, that this occasion when they ap-
peared TO have come N from ride 10 the country
@ Was your remark 70 Captain Gleason respecting the
probable capture Of the President made after this rider
Yes, sir; I said 70 Captain Gleason that surratts
mysterious, incomprehensibs buCness had fahed and
added, "Let us think aver What II could have BEEN"
Ss mentioned variety Of ihngs, even the break ng
open Of the Old Capitol Prison; I would mention that
after that ride my suspicious 70 much aroused
a. bsfore because neither Payne oor Assfot had been
a The house since ,hs onI, one Of then ~ho visited
q. Have you ever seen the prisoner Aruo!dS A. No.
z DID you n,st meet the prisoner, Dr. Samuel Mudd
The witness further tesnsd that Mrs. surrstt lived
- the house street, next the :oruer u Sisth
nss Dr. Mudd was DOT 90 direct route rom ths Penn
vlvania House or the National Hotel 70 Ma SurrsuS
: denomination Of John 0rsenawaIt.
By the JupoI ApvooArr-Q In describing the poorly
dresfed man who called n your house with Atiefo,t on
The morning Of the 10th Of April you said that his hair
was black, but omitted state the color Of his beard
and musache State It nowi A. Their color dark
Testimony OF james walker, Colored.
. By the JuDsE ApvocAn-Q State whether or not on
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House In this city, and your business there. A. was
living there; was there twelve months the 4th Of
April last my business make nres carry water Ae
@ State whether or not you saw the prisoner At
ze,st at that house, and under what circumstances A.
He came there about two O'Clock the morning Of the
10th Of April and left between 1ve and six o'clock nahc
morning
q Did he come there on foot or on horseback The
FIRST time hc horseback, and held the horse for
him st the door,
Q What hour was tban A. was between twelve
and ono O'Clock, believe.
n rLssl a k.A IL Ia A.ll AI-A
Ne went into tho bar; do not know what he did
there he came out agsn, and asked me 10 get bin
piece OF switch, which did, when he rode on
q Did you notice whether be had arms with hmf A.
did not notice what he had; did not SEQ anything.
q when be came back At two O'Clock was he on foot
or on horsebackY A. On foot was lying down, and
rose and let him In.
O. Did he have roomf A. He desired 70 20 tq No.
o2; told bm WAS taken up; he stopped In SO.
q AZ wha, hour did he leave chat moruisgf a BE-
tween Eve md six o'clock.
@ where td you see him st that hour A. = went
for hack Tor ady who was going in the quarter past
six train aud when was returniRg overlook him
he was walking along slowly he made no remark TO me-