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xav YORK Collcctorxhip -The Pension Bi1l-
Minister q japan Nominated.
w,surxarox. December 2l.-The New York
c,llectorship is creating good deal Of in
terest to day among the politicians. A por-
lion of the New York Congressional delega
ION. consisting Of Senator Morgan, Governor
RAYMOND. and Others, have formally asked
,,rnseut assistant treasurer at New York
a hin is being prepared to increase the pen
s,nn list to thirty millions Of dollars. This
amount lust doubles the present bill ssa
The President has sent to the Senate the
name of ex- Congressman and General Won
Vnlkeuburg, of New York, as Minister to
Japan. -
r-esi,ient this morning for an hour.
n"rhe exciting event in Congress to-day has
BEEN the bold. earnest conservative speech of
takes strong ground in support Of the Presi
dent and breaks with the radicals.
WHAT MIR. RAYMOND SAID.
Mr. RAYMOND said that although not a re-
preventative of his party, he was of the senti-
ments Of the loyal people OF New York He
was here to aid by his influence, in restoring
the Union to its old integrity and enshrining it
with that independence for which it was ere.
ateti He was glad TO assume, and believed that
there was not dissenting VOICE IN this House,
or any man in this country, who does not wish,
from the bottom of his heart, that we shall
have the great republic once more.
He considered that the duty laid with this
Congress TO devise means to restore 1t and to
enact such laws us to prevent a future recur-
renee of the rebellion. He differed with the
gentleman from Pennsylvania, (Mr. Stevens,)
who reckoned these States territories, ac
cording to his version OF the Constitution.
That gentleman had opened the ball and inyi-
led the discussion, and differing with him in
views, forth, he (Mr. Raymond
ton He (Mr. Raymond held that the
States recently in rebellion were never
out of the Union, Notwithstanding their ordi-
nances of secession, which Congress declared
null and void, and by which declaration it had
admitted that those States had never left the
Union.
The gentleman (Mr Stevens) contends in his
speech that those States were out of the Union
he denominates them 90 dead States" to be
subjected by Congress to territorial rule. As
having forfeited their rights for four years, be-
coming in fact, a separate power and govern
ment and now TO be dealt with according to
the will of the cOnquerOr and disciplined rs
separate, Mr.. Raymond asked how they be-
came so. 1t must have been at some specified
lime, and by some specific act.
The mere declara tons of secession by State
Legislatures amounted to nothing but wind and
fury. This Government has made laws for the
States of the South, and the gentleman voted
for them. They We're simply 4 part OF the
United States at war with the Federal Go
vernment, carrying on the war until it reached
such magnitude As TO call forth all our en-
ergies. and the passage of severe laws to sub
due them. The Supreme Court decided that
the States could not leave the Union justiiia
bly,, yet they commenced the war upon this
decision. We have no laws to punish States
for the acts they perform. The Constitution
does not deal with States as States, but in few
exceptions, unless the President ana cOnstltu-
ted authorities, in order to form q more pertect
Union and enforcement OF the laws Tor the
government Of persons, but if these persons
commit crimes against the Government, they
are guilty of treason A State cannot be hung,
therefore the organic law So2l exists. State
may always exist, but it may not have spe-
tific constitution at specific time. Practical
operation is one thing; existence Is quite
another.
constitution should be OverthrOwn and de.
stroysd, and practical operations close, would
there be a State?
Mr. Raymond.-If there be no constitution
whatever there would be no State but this
is not the case with the States of the South
They always have had constitutions but their
practical relations to the Federal Government
were all wrong. Their State laws being pre-
served as a guaranty, they still had the right
to assume positions with us. 1t was his view
that these States were still in the Union, ant
that the conquest all have achieved is over re
bellion and not over any independent power
IT, however, the gentleman asserts that tn
SQuthern States We're independent, he coult
see, for the life Of him, why we sit her
celebrating how to dispose Of Jefferson DAVIS
for fragrant treason We might as we'll sup
pose that the States of the South could prefe
such crime against us for prosecuting them:
Our Government has denied that they Wer
corporate as a whole, or that they could con
tract debts to be paid off by themselves, l
we acknowledge them rs an Independent
power, then we must admit their corporalit.
and their solvent duties. We have certain
guarantees to require of them before they cal
come back to the Union. When they surren
dered their armies they gave up not only thei
weapons and organization, but some of thei
civil rights Before they enjoy the privilege
Of liberty with us they should represent loya
districts He would leave the requirement
TO Congress.
Mr.. r. concluded by saying that he hope
the ma ority upon this floor would exercise 1t
leniency and magnanimity towards these way
ward States in permitting them, at an earl
day, to representation in Congress.
Mr.. Raymond was Interrupted throughou
his entire speech by the opposition, who too
issue with him upon nearly every argumen
advanced
The committee rose, reported, and the Hous
adjourned until the 9Th Of January.