New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1865-05-18

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@ In what capacity A. was employed In the
Typographical Department. ranking as engineer OFF,
Ger. with the pay OF an engineer officer.
q. On whose staff A. The staff OF Gen Edward
O. Were you or not In the State Of Virginia in tho
Summer OF 1869, and at what point A. When We came
back from Pennsy aer the battle OF Gettysburg
was ordered with another engineer lieutenant, who
was very sick 10 convey him to bis home at Staunon,
in the Valley Of Virginia; and from there took my
way back to fad the army again; aud near Harrison,
Gap, was overtaken by three citizens with whom
got better acquainted. after having ridden while win
them aud found them out to belong to Maryland;
the name OF one was Booth and the other ones name
was Shepherd.
O. Do you remember the features Of BOOTH A. do
not remember the features Of all Of them.
O. Look at that photograph Handing to t the VII
ness photograph OF J. Wilkes Booth. A. There ID
resemblance, but the face was fuller.
O. You think it is the person. but he had fuller
face than thist A. believe it is
O. Did you learn at that time that was J0hn WikeS
Booth the actor' A. heard the other gentlemen call
him Booth; thought first 1t nickname but after
ward found out that it was Booth.
O. How Tar did You ride with those persons A. we
at tie tavern at the foot Of the mountain until
the next day. there got better ACQUAINTED with them.
O. How long were You together How many hours
do you suppose, A. Eighteen or twenty hours
O. Did you have any free conversations In regard 10
public affairs while you were with hint A. Yes Gil.
O. Will you state what Booth said to you In regard
to any purpose Of attack upon the rrssi'
asked by Booth and by those others. too, what
thought Of the probable Of the Confectionery ana
told them that after such chase as We had then got
from Getty sburg believed 1t looked rather gloomy
and then Booth told me that IL nonsense; II we on!
act our part right the Contedcracy will gain their mae
pendence; old Abe Lincoln must 90 up the spout. anu
the Confcdnraoy will gain their Independence anyhow"
That was the expression AT the time !,
O. What did you understand by the expression be
must go up the spout. from all that Booth sad A.
IT was common expression meaning he must be killed
That understood always.
O. Did he state under what circumstances that woud
become necessary A. He said. soon as the Confea
erncy was giving ont soon "a they were nearly
whipped that must be DONE that would be the mai re-
source to gain the independence OF the Confederacy.
O. Did the citizens who were with hun engage III
cow rsatonf a. Yes sir.
q. Did the% seem to assent to his sentiments a.
Certainly.
o. Did not Booth know that you were Confederate
soldiers a. Yes. sir; they asked, when they 0vertoox
me on the road where was going to- told them
belonged to Gen. edward Johnsons staff, ana was
going 10 the army, coming from Stanton.
o. At what point did you arrive together A. 90
not know the OF the place; 1t Is near tho ioo Vi
the swift Run Gap -
o. Did Won meet there number Of Confederate OFF,
cerI speak OF the end Of your ride-w.th the stone
four DAYS aterward they went from me the next da
my horse could not keep up with the other horses tny
were spenddly mounted and my horse was ne rear:
broken down. they went on three four days alter
ward called to Of the regimentsi camps arc
told that strangers, friends OF mine wanted 70
see me; did not know who it was when e'nle "
camp found those three citizens, and was lntrIucec
BY Capt Randolph personally formally to Boolh anu
Stephens. y.
O. was that the Stoncwall Brigade, A. 1t was at
| the camp Of the ID Virginia Regiment.
q. Do you or do you not know whether there was
secret meeting Of Rebel officers on that occasiont A.
That evening there was secret meeting, where was
not admitted. ID.
O. Did they state to you the purpose OF that meeting
and what conclusion they reached A Some onlcer
aferwsrd, who was about the meeting stated 10 n'e
what was the purpose Of II.
o. Was Booth in that mcetlngf A. believe so; they
| were all IN together. -,
Q. VIVA, did Ls state 10 you was the de'erminatipn
and purpose Of that meeting, L. Tho purpose Of the
meeting was. as was Informed afterward, to SEND
certain officers dea'chcd service to Canada ana the
borders and 20 deliver prisoners to lay Northern cEs
in ashes and, finally to get after the members OF inc
Cabinet and Kill the President; that was the main pr
poe; | heard that more than thousand times, but
never 40 much as that time when | was Informed u
was the purpose OF the meetngi always considered
| common bragg sdocia before
| O. What was the name OF the officer who gave YOU
this account Of the proceedings Of the meeting. A
| Lieut.. IockeIill
O. To what portion OF the service did he belong, dc
| YOU know A. To the ID Virginia Regiment, DC
lsve and the same company that Capt Beali peonge.
to-the Captain gao was executed al Do'erno'
| Island.
q. Was anything said as to what part Capt Beail-
the one sferward executedw to play IN these move
ments at tho NORTH A: Cockeriii told me Beall was
on detached service. and We would hear Of him..
| q. Cocleri was member 81 that meeting, under
stand you 10 saw A. Yes. air.
q. Did you while there Booth and Cockeril asso-
caied together, a. did not see them particularly.
| l saw them all in crowd together.
! .. Booth assocatinR with all the oiicers' A
He was associatng with great many oi them
o. Did you know Of any other secret association or
meeting having similar objects At any tine in the ser
vice 18th which YOU have been connected' a. heard
of the existence Of Sc cret orders for certain purposes to
assist tho Confederacy; l heard name very fre'
quenily called, the name Of one order, the Goden
Circle" ard several times heard the name OF the
| 4" Sons ofLiberty."
o. How many Year, do YOU state you in the
Confederate ser,lcet A. Not quite three years.
o. State whether during the last year or two--since
the reyerses Of the COnfedoracy have commonwealth
has not been freely and frequently spoken OF the Rebel
service as object finally 10 be accomplished. the
assassination OF the President Of the United States
A. Yes sir; heard that very often.
| o Have Won not heard IL spoken OF freely IN the
streets Of Richmond among those connected WITH 'se
| Rebel Government, A. Yes. SIR.
o. About what time--when il the latest you can no"
recall having heard declarations Of that sort ut Rich
mondi A At the time after the battle oi Chaneeioss
vile. when do not know what general was 1at De
lieye it was General kipatrieS WAS on pald nea,
Richmond; at that time heard IL; was III hiehnohu
Oh furlough at the saIne time
| Q. Whenever and wherever spoken OF, DO under
stand you say that this sentiment ~ the necessity o.
the ass asslnaon o the President VI the uAted States
was generally scented 10 in the seryicef a Yes sir
! o The detached service OF which you speak, on
which these parties 10 be sent You say ita'ea
Canada and the destruction Of the NorrhcrR cs hoie
the CANADA frontier a. Ii was outside OF the toh
cderate lines either here in the Northern cities or III
| Canada.
| q Did you understand that the detached service
was 10 be performed in that direction along te oansu9
frontier and IN our Nor,hern ciesl a. ihis deia'eu
service was nickname in the Confederate army ior
such purposes =,
O. IL meant that sort Of warf,rci A. Yes sr
o. You spoke Of laying tho Northern cites IN ashes
did you understand that that was The mode IN WHEN
that warfare wus be conducted by IIing ON cties
A. Yes sir; by firing the cities down and getting the
people dissatisfied with the and by thai neaHs 10
bring forward revolution among the people in tho
North that was tho purpose
No crosse xanniDaticn.
The Judge Advocate offered In evidence without OBJ
lection the photograph OF j. Wilkes Booth, shown to
the witness Van Steinacker. II is attached to this