The New York herald., 1865-05-18
think he said the injured man had shawl, am :,

think ne SAID the injured man had a shawl, am o'
Did he describe the dress OF the younger msni A.
don't rememoer MS saying anything about it.
O. Did he describe bic height aud general appearance
A. ne sad ne was smooth faced young man, about
seventeen or eighteen
@ Did he ell you the direction they toox and did you
search Tor tracks IN the direction Indicated and did
you dnd anys A. Yes; found tracks but other teams
were constantly passing and the road u not much
Q. Did yeu go on Tuesday across the swamp A. yev
we went all through the swamp Tuesday and Friday,
Q werc yop one OF the party who went To Rev. Mr.
Winners housef A. Ycs SIR
O What time did you get theres A. Thursday or
Tuesday night; think 1t late In the evening when
we got there.
g What time IN do you say you got to wnmsrsf A. I
think II was wednesday evening.
g. DID you hear anything of them on the roadf A
O This before the doctor was carried to Bryan
9. We're you and Mr. Lloyd under Lieutenant Love,ts
ordersI A. was acting under Major OBelrues orders,
but 10 his oosence was under Lieutenant Lovst who had
charge Of the squad, suppose.
G. Was Mr.. Lloyd with your A. Yes, sir.
Q Were you In court when his testimony was readf
The Court here took recess Afscr tho coar ecas-
sembled the examination OF Simon Gavacan was had.
Testimony or Simon Gavacan.
O. WIN you state whether you acquainted With Or.
MuddY A. Yes, sir
Q. We're you at his house tho Tuesday following
the assassination A. Yes, sir was
STATE what Inquiries you made Of him there 70 aid
you IN the pursuit Of the marere and what replies be
made A. We went there in the forenoon OF that Tues
day, the 18th; we went to bis house. and made in
qarics WHISTLER any two bad passed the morning
then we asked more particularly whether two came
OF them having his leg fractured he said yes; we
In the mornings they raped al his door and he being
alarmed al the nolse, came down and let them In; he
said another man assisted the wounded into the
house hc said he attended TO the fracture well no
could but that be had not much OF fracture the per
son with tho fractured leg stayed 10 the paror drs
and remained there TIL between three and nye o'clock In
the afternoon Saturday. he said they then LEFT and
he part Of the way With Them but that previous 70
that ho went to look Tor buggy with the other man. 70
have the wounded taken away but he could not dnd
ooe he said that he wont part Of the way on the roads
Fresh and they also inquired the way 10 Dr. wIlmers
and he said he showed thcm the road
Q. Did you ask him whether he knew these personCf
A. he said at arst no, not at all
On tho subsequent day did you have aay interview
v. o~ ssds e sss as them
and search bis house; he not In, but his wife
for him; when he came Informed him that would
have TO search his house, bis wife then went up stairs
and brought boot down; We examined the boot and
found ~. Wilkes" marked the sg Of the boot; she
also brought razor down. which one Of the party took
q Did you repeat your inquiry q. TO who they were,
A. Wc asked him II It was Booth; hs said be thought
@ Did he give any reason for 50 thInking' A. BE said
he had whskers on and also bad bis mustache shaved
Q. Did he speak Of having known him beforei A.
Yes when made inquiries he said he introduced
snst tnu Uy Weo nameO TuoWpbon
CROSS. Rx EXAMINATION BIT Mr.. SWING.
Q. Who was the chief Of tho partyf A. We had no
q who was In charge Of this party, A. Lieut.. Lovc..
orders OF Major O'Beirue
10 tho sbsence Of Major BeIrue were you not 90.
O. Who commenced the conversation with MUD on
Tuesday, A. That am unable 10 say.
How long did tho conversation lasts A. Probably
@ In your prsscuces A. Yes, Er.
O. Did not Lieut. Loveu conduct the inquiries chiedys
O. bid Or Mudd himself bring the bost down to yoas
A. No, sir; bis wife brought u down.
9 Who was IL given tor A The one nearest the
9 DID yoe, IN point q f.es make search Of tho
boot and the negro considered Il satisfactory evidence
that Booth and Harold had been in the house.
9 Did you 60 % meet Mudd on Friday - he wss
going homcs A. No, sir.
Q Did Lieu.cosnt tovs.tf A. Yes, SIR
Q Did anybody elscs A. There might have ono or
party' 4. No, sir; believe the photograph OF Booth
the parties that at this house, but there
thing about the forehead and eyes that reembed OF
Did he point out to you the road they went across
the swamp A. No, STR he said they had made inquiry
how they would get 10 the Rev. Dr. Winners.
Q. He mentioned on Tuesday 4. Yes sir.
Q Did he tell you how to go 10 De. Wiimer'ss A.
Yes, sir
Testimony OF MRS. Emma OHult.
John Lloydf A. Yee, sir.
State whether not. tho Tuesday Of tho llth Of
April, you we're at his housef A. Yes, SIR
@ You saw Mr.. Lloyd on that days A. Yes, cir;
was In the carriage with Mr.. Lloyd.
On that occasion did you happen to meet Mrs. Sur.
O State where tho meeting took place. A. Somewhere
near uuioutowu
Q State whether or not conversation took place be-
tween Mr. Lloyd and MIS-. Surrau on that dayf A. Yes
sir; they talked togsther
q Did you hear any of the conversalion' A. Yes,
d Under what circumstances did the conyerra,'ou
take placer A. Our carriages passed before We reeog-
nized who was; Mr. Lloyd vent out to her caTriago
and had conversation which took place at her carriage,
and not ours.
Q Were you at Mr. LlOyds nssin on Friday, the i4sh
0. State whether you saw the prscrer, Mrs. srrai,,
thereS A. Yes, sir.
O. Did you observe any conversation between her aud
Mr. Lloyd on that dayf A. Ycshr, ] saw them taik.ng
together but didn't hear them a ALI had occasion 10
20 To the back part OF the house.
O. Did the conversation take place In the house or In
the yardS A. In the yard, sir.
O Had Mr. Lloyd bcon TO town that days A. No, sir;
he had been 10 Marlboro attending court
@ What did he bring with him when be came bacs'
Some oysters 9y and 'h and that how he came to
Was any ono else In tho yard at tho time Of this
conversation. A. No sir.
CROSS. EXAMINATION ny Mr.. AIKEN.
q How far apart wero the two Carriages when you
met each other A. Two three yards think and they
talked but a very few minutes together
O Did Mr. Lloyd state what tho conversation was' A.
q. Nor what the conversation 90 the lslh was aboun
A. No, sir; he did not
@ Have you been acquainted with Mrs. Surfat for
some tmef A. Since last GUNNER, believe.
Q. What tme DID she arrive at Lloyds on the liths
A. Al about four O'Clock, think.
O. Did you have any couvcrsasIoo with ber previous
10 W. uoyds coming homer A. Yes cir; III the par.or
O Did you learn what the conversation on tha.
dayY
Qucsnop objected TO, and waived.
O Did Lloyd mako any ststemcnt In rcf romeo 10 his
business with Mrs. Surratu A. No, sir.
q Did Surratt have business with you that
dayf A. No, cir.
pd Mrs sufratt place 10 your hands any psckages1
A No, sir.
q During your visit Of Mr.. Lloya's did you hear any
thing about Hnoldp
Assistant Judge Advocate BrSonAx objected. and tho
obIecuop being sustained W tho Court, Mr. Aiken Sat
down, saybg:-I an done, air.
Testimony or WIN. r. Jett.
Look Al tho prisoners ard see " yod recognise ary
OF AL Of ihemi OrIy one OF them.
q whcb onef Garo.i, SIR
O STATE whep yod er,t saw him, A. s'nco tie anb Of