New-York daily tribune., 1865-08-14
sPyRITUALIsM W. ORTHODOXY.
Another Meeting In BIcsrspsIisan Hail.
Denunciatiens Of the CITY Press-The
Abode Of Spirits Definitely Dehned-A
Spiritual Clock - An Original Idea
Obscene Books Of Lnndis Sold By the
Chairman at the Glove Of the Meeting.

Spiritual Clock - An Original Idea
Obscene Books OF lands Sold By the
Chairn,au at the CIsse Of the Meeting.
The Spiritualsts came out in stronger force
last evening at Metropolitan Hail. tLsn before. to
bear the continuation Of the debste-"Has spiritual
ism any foundation In truth; or Is ii huucinaion,
withou, any authority from Jesus Christi
The hall was crowded. and there we're many more
women present than at the last meeting.
The President Col Goodwin previous to the com
mencemen the debate announced that the clergy had
refused to attend on Sabbath TO take part in the discus
sion and that an opportunity would be given them to-
morrow Tuesday night to express their views OF tue
subject. lie stated that the press had teemed
with full and lengthy reports Of their previous
meetings which reports he stigmatized as
little better than tissue Of falsehoOds. But this,
he said. ccud not be helped; they must pandsr 10
the depraved Of the world and they 0he Spirit
uasts should be pleased the little grain OF truth 10
be found in them. He made severe attsok on the
BOhemians Of the Press which was mora marked Dy
earnesness and force than politeness or good WILL he
then read the laws which would govern the debate.
declared that while lie chairman each side should
have fair trial defined his position as sprituaist
and ended by informing the audience that ai,er ine
meeting the so called "Obscene books OF Dr. LAMBS,
the sale Of which was forbidden by the Police Comms,
soners could be purchased at the desk lie announced
rs the first speaker
III.
as advocate and champion Of the greatest living
vital principle Of this any other age He had heard
as yet no arguments from the negative side oil
the question. SpIrtualism was founded on the I'M
mutabIe laws of truth On the same foundation as
christianity and yet there were those who would come
up to this place and argue that sPrituasm was not
according to the Bible who would assert that II was
lie deiusion short sighted mortals that they we're
Thep belonged TO the class as those OF DID, who
when the Savior Of men brought before theIn eI'
claimed Not this man but Barabbas; away with hlm
60 no ater han
sketch Of the history Of the Bible and declared that we
have but the fragment of the golden bowl OF truth but
he thanked God for that little Each sect interpreted
that Me best pleased their peculiar ideas ana De-
eved and taught that all who did not have the same
peculiar notions as themselves must be lost II was
lamentabe sight. The blind leading the blind lie
then read a communication from Air aters ei iIoy
in relation the spirits reported to have been found IN
the tabernacle in Troy when demolished q few years
ago. The writer denied the statement and used some
scurrilous language in relation to Prot Madison. S
(CHAIRMAN--Please skip that. Prot. MADIsoS-Nay.
let him 60 on. sir. have met Mr. Waters before and
my back s strong enough to bear all he can say Cres
of go on" "Spt it out" Read II eto.. resounded
on all sides, but the Chairman trmly rued IL OUT VI
order az q personality. and 1t was suppressed
This man prof Madison) would make them out hum
bugs-nay, worse, cheats and impostors, Now. who
would attempt to deny that there really some who
were really and truly sincere, Yet be asserts that all
children and church members, are but swinders ana
he can find the spirit. Every man might try the truth
Of sprituasm for bimsef not with any Proiessca me
diu In public hall but in his own iniiy. around his
own hearthstone Let party sit around table put
those with warm hands (who weie charged WIN posi-
tive electricity on one side and those win cou nanus
(who were charged with negative electricity
on the other and then they could determine
for themselves whether spirtuaiism was true
or false They could know for themselves whether
juggcry had been practiced under the name Of spiritual
ism or not; their spiritualism has nothing TO DO WIN
juggery. lie SAID that the communications received
by those who tried this would be from spirits OF the
same sphere, that s II villains tried it, he, would be
BY vilanous spirts The speaker then went
into elaborate history OF spritusm. from Its rise
in Rochester fifteen ago ti the present tlme de-
clsring himself the father OF the science. He then
went back to the sncients. admitted that they had
spirual manifestations the Bible asserts and de-
cared that these must have been In obedience to the
regular laws Of science and what science did once 1t
Prof MApIsoy said he had tried to believe In spirit
uaiism but while Just the verge Of Yielding himself
M TO the deusion had discovered spirit. which he
then exhibited. He quetly wiped away the attempt
yhich had been made 10 impeach his 'eracit ana gave
an instance OF his former dealings with waters; al
Waterford New York In which the latter had tined by
of hand with two tin cups prove the truth OF
SpiritualisIn. He showed the trck 10 the audience
and In truth Il as neat one as Wymsn or Ahdcf
son ever performed. and In every degree 3uanneu 70
make stupid people believe the de'l was In H.. no
showed many very spirits he had captured which
were most wonderful
Dr. MILLER quoted Mo'hdem largely; was very
though extremely entertaining in regard TO tho
different Interpretation given 20 Bible passages said
he believed Christ preached 70 spirits, for be himself
had done lie gave the instance: relative OF his
having died he called her, or rather she called on
him; In answer TO Inquiries he found her u be In a
state similar to our notions o! purgaory the second
sphere) that he preached TO her for year and hn
and preached her out He then read dialogue he had
with the spirit OF uis father which IA interesting 10
those engaged in the study Of fspiri,gal geography
DR. Mlller-lIave you any fixed place OF abode
Spirit OF his Father-I have
Dr. Miller-Describe H.
Spirit OF his Faiher-It outside of your atmosphere
about 90 miles above the surface Of the earth
Dr. Miler--What sphere did you wake inf
Spirit Of his Faiher-lu the second.
DR.. Miller-HoH many spirits are there IN this
sphere,
Spirit OF his Father-More than the shells Of the
Dr. Millcr-How did you occupy your time In the
second sphere
Spirit Of his Father-Cbiefy in mundane affairs.
Mr. MCCLELLAN, Dr. FISH. and Mr. MAIHiSA7 made
which, e,hough excellent in their way were
msle more to be heard than 10 be read
Mr. BURNETT said he would occupy but i've minutes.
The question for debate suggested two Others. WHAT
is sprituasm, What Is truth He could do most of
the tricks or phenomena usually done by spritnasts
but this not spiritunlion This miSh be done Dy
spirits but had nothing to do with the science OF spirit
uasm Truth was defined by the rules governing the
70 be the word Of God sworn testimony. III
minds In the body could effect minds Ia the body, why
might not minds freed from this tabernacle OF clay IN
1uence other minds thus freedi And II the latter
might b. DONE why might not minds outside the Dody
influence minds within the body
Mr.. SIAKLE said the Spirtualiss had begun new
dodge. They were trying 10 gran SpiriiuallSm on
Christianity hut II wouldn't work. He described
Spiritual clock be found that did work however 1t was
made with u hand, with dial plate, and the words
" yes"" "how do YOU do" etc. instead OF mum
bcrs that string connected 1t with the performer,
who was enabled 10 answer questions as be pleased.
He then went into the Old Testament manifestations
explained how many OF them could be done now eI-
planed Eljahs trick Of burning up the stones altar
water ana sacrifice by principle OF calorio found in
lime. lie had. he said, An original idea. God never
intended we should know where we would go to when
"A, had ma