The New York herald., 1865-06-04

sisssssu Of the Prs.dsnti was, the evening Of
that day; arrived there Al three O'Clock, guess
O Saf0what you heard about the assassination Of the
President We heard before getting there OF the fact
ss ss ssss .s &. Nv
sui5sd II them, and ehcy saia w.s fAct; made in
somebody who belonged 70 e theatre; they did not give
She name and spoke though they did not know had
conversation with several there great deal Of con-
fusso.; bot before lss heard was Booth, from Dr.
o Were you about Beams store during the time you
sass whether you SS d. with
Thomas, who has been witness for the prosecutonf
Do you know his reputation in the neighborhood in
which he lived for veracityf A. II h bad.
Q Prom your knowledge Of his reputation FOR veracy
would you believe him under oathf do not believe
Gross examined by Colonel BuRSkrr-Q How near do
yOa kye 70 Mr. Thomasf A. Within four or FIVE mes
Q How Intimately have you known him for the last
four nvo years9 A. have known him quite intimately
Q State what your own attitude has been towards
have been loyal citizen; have done no overt act in
any shape or manner.
Have you said anything against the government, or
given any aid counsel assistance to the rebasS No;
there some acts Of the administration that have
not spoken pleasantly about nothing more:
Have you said anything against any Of the measures
OF the government in seeking TO put down this rebel
lionf A. I do not think have.
Have you maintained the attitude Of friend Of the
government or Of friend 10 the South during the rebel
hons Shortly after the war broke out, took oath
government,
70 IT, neither turning 70 the left nor right
Q What acts Of the administration have you talked
against9 A. Arbitrary arrests
@. Arbitrary arrests Of rebelsp 4. No; citizens.
Q. Were they not rebelsf A. No; they professed 70
bo loyal citizens; do not recollect who they were.
@ DO you recollect . man by the name Of Joyce' A.
O DO you know him as the man who murdered Cap
tain Watkins2 have only seen him once since that
@ Did or did you harbor him and feed him after
the MURDER A. No, SIR he came TO my house on she
the road; he only said short tilne the only time
have him since the murder was once the road.
verscity Of Mr. Thomas as a witness did you refer to
his reputation before or since the war? A. All the time;
he seems to be man who will imagine things that are
not trne and yet believe they facts and stick TO them
all the time.
By Judge BSGBAx-o You don't mean to say that ne
would tell what he did not believe TO be trues A. No.
but he would tell things not true although he believed
them himself to be true.
Testimony OF K. ID. n. bean.
BY Mr. EwMo-Q State your occupation A. am .
Q. State whether the prisoner, Or. Mudd made any
purchases Of the day after the assassination Of she
President A. think sold him some calico; only
remember she day from some circumstances that 6x in
Q Stasc what you heard that day in Bryantown as
the assassination OF the PRESIDENT A. heard that day
that the President assassinated asked by whom,
and understood by of the name Of Boyle who
was said to have murdered Captain Watkins
O. Did you on that day hear that it was Booth who
assassinated the Preeidcntq A. cannot positively say;
my impression is that I did not on that day.
q Were there eodiers in and ont Of your store that
day. and chens' A. Yes and the subject Of the assas
sination WAS the generaftopic of conversation.
@ State whether you had any conversation with the
prisoner Dr. Mndd about the assassination A. The day
that subject; remarked to him 1t was bad
BY Judge BlNGHAM-It is not competent for tho wit
ness 20 state that conversation.
Mr. EWING said be was aware that similar queetions
had been overrued but STILL believing the question
proper ono he desired to have it entered and the de-
cision of the Court upon II.
objection sustained by tho Court,
@ 1t was the conversation yOu had with Dr.. Nudd
that enabled you 70 fix the date when you sold the
Crsss- examined by Judge BrcHAx-Q When did you
learn that Booth WAS the man who had murdered Prcs
dent Lincoln? A. Really do not remember the day.
O. Then you do not know that 10 not Easter
Saturday. do youi A. ] do not.
q Did you hear at the Same time that the who
had murdered the President had been traced TO within
three miles Of Bryantownf A. do not know whether
il was at tho same time; heard at some ane that he
was traced TO within three or three and half miles Of
that place
Q Can you tell how yoa neard il, A. ] do net kp ow;
II was in general conversation.
q Did you connect the sale Of the calico with that
fact as well as the killing Of tho President by Boothf
did not, think, did not hear Of that fact:
q How do you know Il was on Aondayf A. do not
And you cannot positively state that was not on
BY MI EwNa-Q But your impression is that you did
not hear it ON Saturday, A. Ny impression is that
Testimony OF John n: Giles.
BY Mr. Cox-Q. Where do you residep A. At Rull-
IL Hotel in scsse washns
Yes; have known him personally for about four
months
Did you SEQ him on the Thursday before the assas
snation Of the President? A. Esaw him in the evening;
be with Mr. Murphy, with Lieutenant Henderson,
Purdy, and several others
O. Where was II? A. Il was At our place. two doors
from the GLob. Office him early in tho evening,
and then later about ten O'Clock and they remained I'LL
After eleven O'Clock.
@ Did yon join them when they went outs A. did,
and was with them tiIi one O'Clock
@ Did you see them on Friday evening" the evening
Of the ossassipstiooS A. did Vas with them sl the
O Was oIausbIin at your hotel a, the time the
Of The as-assin,,on or The President receivedr
A. Yes he sDou'd thua u was about hnlf-past
nine or ten ocioca
Q. Your hOusr owned hN a man by The rsmo OF
q Is il The house SHOWN as the L'shsu House' A No;
The Ii'han House s on Louisiana avenue between Fhh
and Sixth .treeu near th. Canterbury Music bAI
CRoss-ExAMIKED By JCDaE BisGnAa
q. You think tie news Of the Presidents naurrar
think 90 could not t ceraiLs did NOT look Gi the
Ciock.
Rs.Crocs-examinati OF MIR. Reed.
BY Mr. ARKy-Q Are you acquainted with John H.
Surrat,2 A. know him by sight
q slate the time you sew him last A. saw him
about two csocx the day Of the assassinn
tion, the 14th Of April
O. Did you ever have any conversation with HIN? A.
cannot say that, have said he quite BOY; he
has been merely speaking acquaintance.
T. Where were you when you saw him9 a. Twas
standing ON the sioop OF Hunt h Goodwins military
store.
q State how his hair cut A. II cut very sin
gulariy IL rounded down and fell upon his coat
collar behind.
q. Did he have mus,ache or vbiskers? A. do not
know that ho had in fact did not look at his face par
ticuiary nt all
O. Look Tint picture Of John h. surrs,t and see II
you recognize iU A. II is very much like the clothing,
but is not the style OF hair he bad when him
BY Judge BrsoHAx-o That is the picture of John H.
Surratt Is II no2 A. Yes; u ~ fair picture Of him,
though his hair is not cut al u when him on
the l4th VI April.
Testimony OF Miss Anna Ward.
yNr AMES-Q state your residence A. In WASH
ington city
O. Are you acquainted with the prisoner Mrs Surrati
A. Yes; 1 have known her for eeven eight years.
O. Have you known her on any occasion, 70 fall
recognize you her friends when you have met herr
A. She failed to recognize once when mel her
the street. had also failed 10 recognize her. she made
apology 10 me, and mndc the snme apology 10 her
. Arc you near sigheds A. am; this vss on sev.
enth strcet; Mrs. SuIraits daughter whh her. and