New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1865-09-20
THE STATE PAIR.
Second Evening Discussion "Grassj
Kinds, Quality, and Proper Time 70
Cut for Hay, and How IL should be
Curfd.v

/ Cured.v
From Our Special Correspondent.
UTICA, Wednesday Evening. Sept. IL, 1865
The discussion was opened this evening ny
J. Stanton Gould Hudson Columbia County. in brief
able interesting discourse upon the history kinds and
quality Of some OF the principal grasses used for hay
Among other things Mr. Gould dwelt upon the great
beneiacton to the country would be to increase the
Weld Of grass. Doubling the production. which could
be easily done would in brief period pay the great
war debt Of the nation
He treated at some length the intimate relation be.
tween highly prosperous condition Of agriculture aud
the social relations morals and improvement Of the
people and showed by statistical tables how marriages
increase when productions 81 food are abundant lie
who double the production OF grass alone Is there
fore public benefsctor and improver OF his race II
is Of vast Importance 10 farmers 10 consider the
best sorts which are most nutritious and how they can
best be saved. so as TO preserve thor value IN hay
armers do not seem IN be aware oil the great difference
10 value between different sorts Of grass FOR instance,
Il has been proved that 100 70 Of timothy equal TO
600 Of chess. Other sorts vary IN similar ways, "a
shown by analysis in England. Unfortunately, we
have never had any American analysis OF grasses.
Chemistry aids in determining value. but practical
experiments also necessary 10 show which 10 best
for making fat and which gives mosonuscnar foed.
One Of the most Important and least settled questions
Is what Is the best right time to cut grass for
hayi' This is the point upon which we want 10 get
the opinion OF farmers present Some arc strongly op.
posed TO letting grass stand till 1t Is mature and others
not Determine this gues,Ton Sinclair boiled hay and
evsporated the vater 10 find the nutritve value SO his
ANALYSIS cannot be relied upon. think that grass cut
when in flower makes the most nutritious hay. After
il rpens seed The value Of the straw ally essened
and the stock which is fed never look as sleek as
those FED upon hay Of grass cut in flower nor are they
so healthy.
find 10 the valley of the Hudson. that il takes. on
40 average 81 n OF grass 10 make lu n Of hay when
cut al the right time and properly cured; So farmers
should calculate upon four TO one. ma that co"
will eat average l001 OF grass per daI ana tbeTe
fore % p Of good hay should be is equi' en bui IL IS
rot without adding four pounds VI OATS or ter eiul
valent in some other grain go
Grass should be cured 80 as % lose as little a. possible
Of It's weight. Let II b. oui dry and Wit foli hoqf-
ard then cock 20 stand one 1.-TWO nights then
oren dry haul and store away hot Never let de" or
rain fall apon grass after % has wilted.
Mr.. Van Alstyne Columbia EQUITY farmer. VINO
uows 100 acr- cuts in blossom dries few hours and
co Is while bot and lets stand over one day Tom
Inence moving aflor dew u OF, and continue Few
hours then start the rake and get al N e,ck before
dew l.ls ColSdeTs ipe timothy 40 b'ier than barley
straw though il vii sell vel IN New foTs. whore
ihcss who feed horses appear 70 prefer Il TO hay sde
from grass eat eariy. nexhDOf VINO alsafs .rt hts
ras stand til lsie. always has poor cattle IN spring
though lie always feeds sbundantlv
IL the las, Of hs moving. Mr.. V cuts and hau- the
same day Prefers the independent toothed horse rake
which sts M tie Looks and dIies ihei IL the valley
Of Hudson deEs are heavy. aud should never Ds 81
lowed TO is4l 1p0A hay. en-, ..,
errs ceen FOR ~ yesr Commences on clover 18th TO
e4th June when bat fsv heads ere brown and thoug,
be only gets threef0HFths - maeh Weight ], Las ele
nutr!ment with the heavier weight cut Ialef ana "
ciyss the seed crop better opportunity. Ierhaps hs
wood Jet the first crop stand longer II be mo"ed FT
hay only 1t Is harder 10 cure groom tnn mature gfa,
III sureaas il over large scaf,ads 10 dry. much "a he
can In tue barn and their blossoms continue bIlt
Ripe timothy con.sins NJ iatiing principle. h1~ms
early aud not skinning Oh rowen preserves mea1oNs
His are all artificial and he don keep them oTg three
MI Van Alstyne-f Gu, my eloye, When about one
quarter OF the heads are perfect and theD - pounds OF
the nav il az good 100 ponds later cut.
M Walraih. 81. Lawrence County, wond IKE 70
cut all my grass when In flower. after TIE dew !" on,
ard give Il Six hours SUM- and then cock 10 stand over
one day; then open, dry aud haul and spread out as
much as possible in the barn. 1 c0n' salt hay-t IS
bad for cattle. causing them 10 drink too mach. cut
clover when heads are one-third changed. Cock the
same DAY and cure several days IN the cock. Ii cut
green acre gives - per cent lees weight bat more
value.
when it makes hay OF most value II all the crop
not be cut the exact night time would prefer 70 cut
too green instead Of too ripe. He supDOscs horse.
feeders in New.YOrk prefer late cut timothy because
they can put in large rack fun and horses wont eat to
excess ss they will OF green sacculeni hay IL Is din
emit 10 make impact heavy bales Of hay when the
,rsss /, allowed 70 ripen before II is cut.
Scion Robinson called upon by the Chairman TO
state why horsemen 10 New York preferred mature
,io,by 10 that cut creeni He answered. Simply be-
cause they have found il the most economical. The
most Heterogeneous In feeding 100 or 200
head Of horses 10 the Third AySnae hnir9aa stables
dent OF that Company and the result Is ration OF
pounds Of good sound timothy bay hnely chaned and
wet and rixed With 10 pounds oi cord oes or wheat
meal Those who feed single horses use uncut hay but
they prefer the grass mature enough Tor part OF nc ced
! TO grow and that IL my own experience Ior hofses
For would cut the grass green pu, never 10,
horse; for have never one that would eat AFTER
moth with relish. Cut your grass as green us you
please for cows and calves and sheep but ii u mature
for horses particularly for those that are as ea wi,
grain which is always cheaper than hay IN New YORK
City, and that is why II is depended upon. anu Why
they willing to feed hay, which, some OF you ia
say Is no better than rye straw 90 not h ysrV
liable the leaves while one fed upon thar which nus