Daily State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1861-1865, 1865-10-14

Gen<r lie Grant as4 xherman'. Opin-.
isns-snay johnson gives HE views.
E<srscf from 1ens,or osolulss speech At nilwsskss


Geu<r.ls Grant asd xhermasr. Opin-l
Ersrsci f-Ou. ssns,or nsolulss speech At nilwsakss
October a. - ~
OPINION or THE PRESIDENT.
Mr. johnson. the President of the United
Stsies Informed me as early as 1857, after the
Fremont campaign, which occurred in lS56-he
informsc me thar 30 The STATE OF Teaesssee there
arose an insurrection II you remember, several
Of the slaves were taken, tried, snd executed
amoug ctrers the sfaves OF Jot1 Bell .thsnA
Senator from that State Mr.. johnson vas then
Governor there There was then such an alarm
spread IN the State, that great many persons
and companies called upon him for arms. BE
inquired Tor what purpOsef I bey said to defend
hemse vesagsirstipsurectiOn LsrgeQuanu
ties OF arms are disIributedL But chen he
came 10 examine into the facts. he found the
whites were organizing in large numbers, with
the purpose Of extermnatng the whole negro
racs IN that portion OF Tennessee. He vas COM
PEELED 10 call out the militia, and use every
exsft.on 10 prevent il Ia conversation with
him not long Gnce. be sad, "a ne, that, while
he would desire that those States. in the
formation OF their Constitution. should do
as they did in Louisiana-strlke out all
Constitutional restriction upon colored sui
frage and that the Legislature should be EN-
powered 10 extend, from time to time the rights
OF suffrage TO certain superior classes OF the color
ed peoPis, s.se as ' q Who Dad psfiOFmss
1eads Of families. aud supported then by their
own Industry, and bad demons rated clearly their
intellectual fitness TO exercise the right OF suffrage
while he would be glad 10 see that coming
| from the st ties themselves, il a right
which the States alone should grant, be was de-
cidely OF opinion thas if he. President. in the
present condition of the people there, in the pre-
scot condition o the old preiudices, almost
hatred. exiting between the two races were to
insist that suffrage should De granted TO the
Masses OF the coloIe Ell people in those States az
condition precedent 10 their being recognized as
! States inthe Union. IL would produce actual war
between the blacks aud the,whites. Mr.. John
son ALI his life, had lived there and has been Gov
ernor of Tennessee before the rebellion, and
Military Governor during the rebellion, and he
knows what be says e
OPINION GENERAL GRANT.
1 But !. viii not stop here. This is too serious
Iaattsr for men With fippsnt tongue TO pass over.
as if there was nothing in it. The other day.
when General Grant was here. spending several
hours with him in free conversation upon this
subject among others, he expressed 10 me the
same opinion Said /: " General Grant, | never
iquots private conversation without express per
mission. Am permitted TO state what you now
state to mel" Said be: " Ceitainly, there is no
concealment on my part" And he stated to me
IN the conversation that considerable portion OF
the trouble between the whites and the blacks
that had already occurred, was in consequence OF
this unwise attempt 10 force negro suffrage on
those States. He said, further, that if the Fed
| eral Government we're to attempt II do it and to
enforce it, il would undoubtedly produce war be
tween the two races there. Now how does il
seem for some OF those young men, that were
never there IN their lives, and know nothing about
It, some editor OF a newspaper, or some stump
| orator-how does il seem for such men, in pres
euce of authority like this TO say it means moth
ingl When | stand up before people, and plead
10 save the lives of these poor, down-.rodden
men, whom their mistaken zeal, false philan
thropy and blind fansticism would hurry into
their graves by hundreds and thousands, perhaps,
Applause
| OPINION or GENERAL SHERMAN
But there is still another and no Less high su-
thority upon this subject La conversation with
Gen. Sherman, that great captain, who this
day in the city, and who desired much TO be pre-
sent here this evening, whose friends telegrsphei
TO Chicago for the purpose OF OBTAINING the boat,
that he might be here, bu. were unable to do so,
which | much regret, for would prefer to say
it in his presence. | found he entertained the
same opinion. That great captain, who, at the
head of his conquering iegions, swept through
the very heart OF the rebellion who is familiar
with the condition there, who has lived in Lou
isans, and who was ut the head of a Military
Academy there when the rebellion broke out, he
too. 10 conversation with me at Madison was de
cidedly OF the same opinion as Grant and the Pre-
sdent
My fellow-citixens, when stand here, plead
ing here, against this insane projection it IL
none other-this insane project OF insisting that
the Government OF the United States while en-
deavoring TO establish peace In those ST ties.
should adopt policy leading TO bloody war Of
races, by forcing negro suffrage upon the people
of the South at this time, against the unanimous
opinions OF the white races-what most of the
free States will not do, though their numbers are
so small that they could have but very little
weght-a most fearful proposition under these
circumstances. do hot rest upon nv own knowl-
edge l am bound TO regard The warnings OF
those great men-our greatest men-who have
| been there, and state what the effects of such a
| policy would be. And he must be very brave
man wbo, never having been there and knowing
nothing about it. stands up and says, 1t is all
delusion; there is nothing init Cheers Ii is
moral cowardice, and only timid men say this i"
/ lCbeers In view OF such authority IS have
given, he must be brave indeed who sees no dam
ger in such policy. Brave-ah. brave is not the
word, for fools rush in where angels fear to
| tread. Fellow citizens, we read of the civil
war in Hayti. What is that WARP Ii is a war of
races more than anything else 1t is war be-
tween the blacks aud mulattoes. This prejudice
OF races is a thing very deeply seated in human
rociety, and not thing to bs trihed with. But
TO return to the question under discussion II
| We proceed and consummate the great victory
which We have won, by the adoption of the con-
stltu.ional amendment, then slavery sill not only
be dead, but buried bevond the hope of resurrec
ton. Cheers If il be not adopted il may be
revived
Pleasant surroundings of ketchum,
the forger.
ketchum, the forger is still confined in the
Tombs, and bears his fate with remarkable resig-
nation and calmness He continues to play the