The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-12-05

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Mr.. Brooks, tdem) of N. Y, hoped the motion would
not prevail until settled who members OF
tins House. and whether the gentleman from Tennessee
who held his credentials in his hand entitled to be
heard He trusted the House would proceed In any
revolutionary step like this without hearing from Ten
nessee for II Tennessee in the Union and
loyal state but her citizens aliens and foreigners
by what right does the President of the United States
occupy his place in the White HouseY He repeated he
trusted the gentleman would have the privilege Of being
heard; for If the precedent proposed be established
the Clerk would, in effect give law the House merely
by arbitrary will and thus make himself omnipotent
Mr. WENTWORTH, rep of H. called the gentleman to
order
The CLERK said the gentleman was proceeding in
order
Mr. Brooks responded-when the gentleman knows
me better in the House he will always find that pro-
coed TO order We ought 10 know who have right to
vote before proceed with the organization II the
gentleman, Mr.. Maynard, is not from State in the
Union what man is oyalY During the darkest period OF
the war, while he was exile from Tennessee heard
his eloquent voice the St. Lawrence urging my State
TO discharge Its whole duty TO the country; and
here are honorable gentlemen who will not per-
nit him 10 be heard, though he holds in
his hand certificate from the Governor Of Tennessee
Neither has the Clerk of the House read the names OF
members from Virginia. mean old, and not Western
virginia over which Governor Pierpoint has presided
and still presdcs and TO which position he was elected
during the war; and whose loyalty is unquestioned BY
what right has the Virginia delegation been excluded
want the Clerk to tell me. He has given reason for
it, will yield the floor to enable him to answer the
question.
The CLERK repcd--If IL Is the desire Of the House
will give the reasons
Mr.. STEVENS in his chair-The House know it all and
don't want the reasons.
The CLERK said what he bad done was in view of his
duty, and he was willing to let the record stand
Mr. BROOKS resuming, said IL was known to some, but
not to a that the State of Louisiana here Con-
sress by permission Of the gentleman from Pennsyva
MIA tMr stevens who gave his the record but
now Louisiana is excluded. The republicans then adj
United two members from Louisiana, and the Clerk
assumed the responsibility Of excluding the members
elect from that State. Why this Inconsistency of ion
well as absurdtyY
Mr.. WAsHBuRSE, (rep.) of ILL.,, reminded the House
that the occasion TO which the gentleman referred
the Clerk put the of the Louisiana members
on the roll. They did not vote for Speaker and the
House some time after refused to let them be ill.,
Mr.. BRooKs-That after the Speaker was chosen.
Mr.. WAsHBURSE-They we're never members
Mr. BRooKs-But they gave their votes for Speaker
WtHout oDJeCuou from tue TepuDlCans But tne gentle
man from Pennsylvania (Mr stevens) did not want to
hear the reasons of the Clerk. This was not para-
men.sry Tennessee. Louisiana and Virginia we're all to
be excluded without debate Were gentlemen afraid 10
face debate after passing resolution caucus excud
ing members from certain States without discussons
Mr. snvEss-l rise to point Of order II was once
held that the assembling Of members the first day
OF the session other business in order except
motion to organize by the election OF officers.
81 10 Wi linn hf vnnu
tent. would say to him "Strike, bnt first hear The
astion Of the Clerk 10 10 be CARVED without debate
10 he whole history Of the country and throughout the
revolutionary period there OF violence more
nagIa than that which II proposed TO be visited the
pnnorn, Of the House by the exclusion OF fyseven
Representatives and that too without debate Iwould
ask hc gentleman from Pennsy vana at what period he
WI, ln.roaa,1 the joint resolution which approved
IN unc republican caucus. ! hope he will inform
vocss-DonN tel. Don't answer him.
NP s1kvH3c-2b, have no objection to answering II
VIII Ne introduced " me a. the proper time daughter
Nj. Brooks said the GENTLEMAN from Pennsylvania un.
derstood he puport othe ancient maxim that language
was gwen W u 70 conceI our ideas The proper time
TO which the gentleman suded was In anticipation of
the message, In order that the gentleman might throw
quasi conde mnaton OF the Pksiden, He ,Mr Books,
not the President vindcanr except where on the
record should be presented PRINCIPLES in accordance with
his He moved that the gentleman from Tennessee
be allow ed N present his credentials prpber elect
from the State Of Tennessee and hatn name be placed
upon the roll.
Mr. sRvsSs-I rise to the point of rider that the mo-
ton Is nadmissibe, the motion ol the election of
Speaker being IN order.
The CLERK ruled that that a goot pont Of order
Mr. MYsARD-I appeal 10 the gentleman % listen TO
me for "A few minutes.
Mr. STEVENS cannot yield to any gestenan who ia
not a member Of this body.
Mr. Joissos, ldem.) of Pa, obtained ne floor for the
purpose as he said Of explaining, hut
Mr. STEVENS objected, remarkng--"A nan cannot ex-
plain anything never spoken"
The CLsRk reminded Mr. Brooks ,ht. he .ould not
yield the foor II objection made, nor o,d he y3ld
II excepting for the purpose Of explanation or debate
pending amendments
Mr. Brooks replied that he did not rgard the pro.
ceedngs parliamentary aud expressed hs regret that
such dangerous precedent about 10 b, established
Mr. JOHNSON, OF Pa, wished TO- propount a gu stion
IL related to making up the roll which he rst ssp
10 organization.
The CLrRK held that that had reference the cleo
ton Of speaker, which was the pending motioa
Mr. srxvESs moved the previous question 90 the
ton 70 proceed " the election Of Speaker.
Mr. Joawos proposed to submit motion wtScb could
tuke OF the motion Of his Ste
vensl He shed 10 that the name OF As gentle.
man from Tennessee who holds the credosiaIs be
The CixnE decided the motion out q order
M.EcTiox oy srkAKun.
The House. under the operation Of the previout Ques
ton agreed 10 the motion Of Mr. Morrill, ,hs the House
now proceed TO the election OF Speaker
Mr. MORRILL, nominated Schuyler Colfas, Of iadana,
and Mr. wsvEp ldem. of New York, nominated James
Brooke Of New York.
Messrs. Morrill,, Of Vermont; Dawson, Of PennsyI-
vania; Smith, Of Kentucky, and FInske, Of Ohio we're
fbe result Of the piva voce voting was follows
Whole number Of votes. ITO
Necessary 70 choice. 10
Mr.. LOifax. .ios
James BROOKS ....:.:................... Is
The detailed vote v ~ follows
FoR Ma CsrsAx-Mcssrs Alley Allison, Amea Anderson
Ashley OF Ohio, Baker, Baldwin Banks Barker, Baxter,
Besmsn Ben amn, Bidwe. Bingham, Blaine. Blow Bout.
WELL yraDdeSee, Cromwell, Bsooma, Buctiand. Bundy,
Cark Ohio Clark OF Kansas Cobb Conkling Cook, Gull
cm Culver, Darling Davis Dawes Der:es Deisno, Dem
ux Dixon. Donncy briggs, Dumont Eckiey, Eegeston,
kott Farusworth, Farquahar, Ferry Garfield, 0rinnei
6rswold Hale, Harding Of Illinois Hart Hayes, Hender
son. Highly ffi Holmes Hooper, Hotchkiss Hubbard OF
iowa Hubbard Of West virginia Hubbard Of New York
Hubbe Hubburd, James Humphrey, 1ngcrsoll Jenckes,
JuIcan, KA..on, Kelly. Keso, Kstchsm, Kuykendan'
Marston Marvin Mcclurs, Mclndce, Mckee Mckuer Mer
cur, Mcorhead, Morrill, Morris, Moulton, Myers, Newell,
pike, Plants Pomeroy, Pncs, Randall OF Ky, Raymond,
Rice Of Nass Rice Of Me- Rollins, Sawyer, schenck
aeld shslabargr sloan Smith sgaldns starr stevens,
Van Aernam, Van Horn q x, Van Horn Of No: Ward,
williams wilson Of Iowa, Wilson OF Pa, Window, wood
bridge.
FoaM Mn yaooxs-Mesus Ancous, Bergen Boyer chanlsr,
Dawson Denson Eldridge, FIncke, Glossbrenner Good,
year Order Hardin Of ky., Hogan. Hubbeli Of N ",
lanes n Humphrey John Kerr lie Blond Marshall,