The New York herald., 1865-05-19
NEW YORK, FRIDAY, MAY 10, 1865

AY, MAY l9, 1865.
gave 70 the Chief OF the Police this on the
Ing after the assassination
CROSS EXAMINED BY MR.. DosrER.
Q What time In the mornng2 A About six o o,.---.
@ Whereabouts, precisely, in street was M A. In
front Of Creasons house. IL lay as though i had been
snrown undeT the carriage step
TIC stimOny or j. I. McPhaiI.
BY Jaase hoI-Q State whether or not you had
conversation with Azero In prison. which he said that
on the night OF the assassination OF the Presden he had
thrown hss knife away the streets OF Washington.
Question objected TO by Mr. DosrsR the ground that
the conlessssn OF the witness under durese
Uneer what circumstances the statement made
70 youf A. received Information that he desired TO
see me ana wen. TO see him accordingly; found him
Mr. Dosrsa argued that the condition of the prisoner
was such as 70 ntmidate him. and TO make his confes
nohs unae' sssn circumstances Improper to be given AZ
eviaehce nho ted many authorities TO sustain his OBJ
lection The witness was Provost Marshal General OF
the state i Of Indiana which fact Atzerott knew. Wit
on his force and brother temporarily on his force
also Both OF them repeatedly desired witness 10
Ashcroft They went there with permission OF the Sec
retary Of War; simply at their instances The prisoner
was In irons, but had no his face or head
the op)ee'on OF counsel was not sustained by the
Witness then answered the question asked him In the
Affirmative.
CROSS ANIMATION BY Mr.. DosrER.
LnM A. va si ne saids dd not soy that; an
O. Did he describe the knife and name the place whore
ne snrew y away A. he said he threw Il away just
Ninth and streets
Q Dld be also cay whore his pistol was A. He said
We Mathews Co q Georgetown, in possession Of
Dd hs ssAts how he sot II thers' A. Yes; he ,a,d
he went there ana borrowed ten dollars the psseI
sn0 va o saturday morning, the 18th.
Do os prisoner mention 70 you certain coat On
seirins ye:ol oswis knife, Ae hanging IN room n sh:
tSs Y''i he stated The coat ss The hossl ssloassd
Nr eross, counsel Tor Harold in q very loud voice.
81 ooeoS 70 that testimony" CLAughtsrl
Testimony oe Lisutenant w. n. Refine.
BANNED By JUDO. HOLT.
6ease whether you passed the oight Of the 18th Of
April q The Pennsyivania House n this city A. did
g DID you sse A'sero'' u the house thssngha A.
Q Under what circumstances did you seehims A. I
into the hotel about four O'Clock Saturday morn
ing; DO was In bed when arrived in my room; re-
marked him whether be had heard Of the asassina-
uou OF the President; he ead yes and said what an
awful thing II was; after thM went TO bed; woke
about seven o'clock and be ~ss gone.
cupcd room 81 saw him have knife add revolver.
How long before the assassination A. think IL
W. was sas sunday before ot Sunday week; ! would not
70 weess-i would not swear that was the knife but
was knife about that sAxe
State under what circumstances you saw the arms
He went out and lelt the knife in his bed; took
and put under my p&ow; when he came IN he asked
ana remarked "if DC fails l will have another" r'
handed u 10 him aud ne went out
| q Did be- have pistolS A. Yes, he Awsys csniet
| CROSS RxANINED By Nh. DosrER.
Did.ycu know the prisoner Atscrott before you mel
him u the PeAasytvania Housei A. Yes
den, mmsGiasely opon Going into he roo~ ,hs, morn
ingf A. No; he was In bed wAen csno right oppo
site and II wss some Eve or tss minutes bov spok,
Q Did be ssy anything more sasn tha was an awfU
thingi A. esseve that was an
n na n A>A. 4
know whether he was andrssssd o. not
ysr soSS as S's. ySs
only esns iS.sTnssri him can me,
DN yea zee him sfssr III. sAAfrf A. No, stE
a. = "a szd M M e =. q: sso" 4:
wssk o. ~ days 6seers The aasaesAaatioe.
q A. ~ "a s,~s G you beard aAss:.s hsd y. bee
Ss ss:s: . s:.::s: ~: s:ss ::as sss :;s.r Nv. ,.i
W.: s.se = drinks -sss sss' A whisls
NJ - rNx!s..an.r .,~.s.., .,.. A.. ..,s
thSs isssivtsw' 4 No; 1ia "a; about aiI
Tsstiansay 81 WAshfagtea DSiscss.
! nxAMHBD ~ JUDGE HOLT.
sos =" &. a. r; 4 .. a1a
hour b g; M. mo ;As ::' o sA ;.;
ps &c; sd, :sd we've sIs o.e w '''"''' A'
O. What did he sayf A He did not recognise me s'
all; after while asked hun II he bad heard = III.
ns. BE- ss he had he then asked me To lot him sless
9 Where w. your stoss' A Down q. The Navy Yard
Q What was bis msnnsrs A. He seemed 70 be OK
Did ;,h he yoq Q. seem . os very anxious
@ What becsme OF bimf A. He rode down - far -
did, got out whom did, and asksd again TIE gentle
man With me "a not invite him 70 stop, and Of course
Q Bow long had you known bims A. Some seven o,
o 6id he then express his determination To 70 any.
where elsei A. He said be going back to what was
formerly tne KENNEL Aouse now the Pennsylvans
House, On @ street.
cRoss-xxAxNArros BY MR.. DosrER.
Q. Did you notice the precise time whom you met A.
.ero., that evening" A. Noi bu, think Il ~As about
half past eleven or twelve.
Q What time was 10 when he lsft you tha, evening, ~
near a. you Gao teIlf A Near twsvS he stopped Al ,he
corner and Garrison ssreets the Navy Yud 70
Q What vas bis manner; DID be appear 70 se DIS
tureedf Ij1dssd from hs manner be wS huis
Q a.d he been drint,osf A. I hardly know; ] sl
not poslce particularly.
Tsstiso.y % Rev. w. II. Ryder.
BxAhINyp Bv JUDGE noBr.
@ State your residence and profesnon. A. ] reside
10 Chicago, and am clergyman.
Q State .hsthsr you recently msdo visit 70 Rich
mood snd M.wh.t timer len Chicago 90 tss sth Of
O. while there did yen nnd 10 the Capitol the ~chvss
eondniosi A. did; they were pretty gsossaly con.
fused and scattered aboul on the floor
q Did you, 10 commO with macy others, pick up
papers from the noorf A. Yee
q State whether the paper you now hold in your
hand was picked up In the Capitol at Rkhmond under
the circumstances you mention. A. Yes; picked up
either In the building or snmsdaely aboa, lhs building
or II was handed 10 me BY some one who picked up n
The rubbish about the room there two per-
sons with me; they STOPPING down, and when they
Sosud anything OF importance would pick up and pre-
serve "; In some instances the orderly who was In
eslendance would hand me something and would put
IN my pocket; having sisus collected quite sumber Of
Things, they were thrown INTO receptacle put
into boa and forwNded 10 CsIcaso; this was one VI
the papers % found.
The paper referred to was read BY the Jpdge Advocate
~ foifews:--
nicBsoup, reb. II, 1855
states Of Amerca:--
when Senator Johnson and myself waited upon you some
days sae 10 rotation the project Of annoying
ns the enemy oy means ef burning their shipping towns
&C.. &C. there were several made by the
subject THAI vas not fully prepared 70 answer but which,
upon consequent conference with the parties proposing
enerpVse ind cannot apply objections 70 tue scheme
Fa-Tbe cumbusble material consists Of several prepa-