The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-10-14
e. WASHINGTON.
1ntsrcession Of South 0arolinians in
Behalf Of JED: Davis and
4 6io Other leading Rebels.
Interesting Interview with
7, eng President Johnson.
fhme More Plain Talk from the
E = Head Of the Nation.
an Government Has No Desire to PeFMtute,
hui Must Vindicatc HStlf.
M sn s~,@~s-.~~->~.>~~-~- er
;South.C Carolina Advised to Admit Megre
81 Testimony In Her Courts.
Ne Change i'm the Status OF JeT.
Davis Promised.
Happening Of the Principal I Southern
Railway Lines.
As. he. &c.
fhme More Plain Talk from the
z = Head Of the Nation.
III Government Has No Desire to PefMtute
hui Must Vindicatc Hstlf.
;South.C arOliRa Advised to Admit NegrS
Testimony In Her Courts.
Ne Change i'm the Status OF Jen
n Davis Promised.
Happening Of the Principal 1 souther,
Railway Lines.

Railway Lines.
wzssISGroS, Oct 13 1891.
: JNrERvlEwsof THE GoUrH CAROLINA DELEGATION
Este WITH THE PRESIDENT.
Judge wardlaw, Alfred Huger and Colonel Dawkns, OF
South Carolina this afternoon had interview by ap
pointmens with Prcsdent6ohnson. They were accom-
panied By w. H. Trescouo who is here business as
executive agent that State The President after the
customary prcimnaricsof reception invited them TO be
seated, when at ths conversation commenced by
Judge wasdlaw informing him that they .deesa
zion from the State Convention Of South Carolina sent
hither present certain memorials of that body These
memorials had been very carefully considered the
convention and he believed they told exactly the truth
The President inquired the object Of the memorials.
. Judge Wardaw informed him that one Of them
in behalf OF Jefferson Davis, Alexander II.
Stephens, George a. Trenholm and Governor Ma
grath. He said they had understood that by the late
interference of the president Messr Stephens and Tren-
holm had already been released from close confinement
and permitted TO their homes. He would ask
For Governor Magrath either pardon that he might
Ne releasedon his parole They could The rresi-
dent harm would result from such act Of clemency.
The PEssDKSr replied that all cosd not be psroned at
suce. Tho busiasss be proceeded with gradually,
and an e0ort mado.to execute the law a discrmipa-
tisD vas necessary a. went along. II q
moa expression, by way OF argument In regard TO
eensscy, that such one had been pardoned and that
he vas jast 90 had another who had been par
loned.
Judge WAnnAw replad- that the dele, alton presented
no such argument that.
Tho PREsIpEsy said sometimes the peculiar locality
had much 10 do with pardons. Like many ether things
n human AFFAIRS cannot have fixed rule. Much de
ponds dscretion and circumstances. five know
sslves, wan, do what best and just,
proper degree humanity the part OF The govern.
, 'ment
Judge wARDsAw remarked that they had not come
hither 10 express their hopes and desires but
delegates from the South Carolina Convention present
she memorials Of that hody 10 a formal manner.
The PsESDEsr-Te will gentlemen, extend all the
facilities and which questions require We
would prefer 70 pardon twenty than 10 refuse
Judg; WARDI-A~ replied ihai they did design To
<ay anything with reference Gov Magrath further
than that they believed much good would result by
exercise OF che executive clemency toward him.
Col DAwHns ssbdilf we.can get Gov Magpsth paroled
n wsnld be great yshsf 10 him at the present time
judge wARpAw thanked the President for having re-
9easeds Mcssrs. sierhens and Trenholm.
SThe iPRnIDsu-we ihase. that far, them anticipated
your Remonal.
Mr. 'HuaKR said that Mr. Trenholm was onsof their
most ussfu men, and there doubt he woad exert
harmony
State sndLG overnment
the President replied thss lie understood thai Gao so
adding beason oamrmisaed there ought 70 bat,me
ses 10 daisrane the powerof the government punish
~ crime Sic was free 10 saw that u a.uere
cntess bnsveen political parties question dc
5seo govesnnsDts Looking A. die government aaye
~ the laws and suempL the ssfa Of
Shs nation, ahsrc should be vndcsron Of the pysrn
nesf and lhe constitution, esap IT, ,e pardoning power
80 - 49,. <s-~
nittsi ought 70 be determined by abe highest triuss
Dnd re fact declared, cis,aaDcy should oGxse
afaerwsrd Tlssevwas malice prejudice in csvy.
y1ns Qua That dlsy. !.
Judge wAsDrAw remarked ,bes sssss well aware Sf
ishal 4
The PAFnprY, ssssming, said shsre sJnay he some
innkind feeling thiasuhcri, but did. no; any
,srcat extent
Judge w<spraw said, although instructed ny the
CsS en,ions he induced to ak wss,ier.a Mrs Jener
sspn Davis wao was nos confined 10 George, could not
yo3 into South Carolina 40 her fr~ads.
The PRSapss replied that he had rrcefSed e,sers from
Mr. pssis, but shcy wers nps very comnandapls The
rqne, of one Of chem howsyer, considerably i'm
'IsNyed t tho Others nes Of the chssAc,sr Beco
I'M, cpe asking leHiency.
'Jssdgew>HprAw An,erpo.ed sy,aynr she va nso.nan
Of <rpng feeling
The PRHnySr-Yss; suppose she IL woman OF
0fone ieehnG and temper, but f6ere IN intentan
so prosecute boz. There much ragnanimity ana r.
dcpendesrc aud nobenees Of spint submitting as AZ
crying 10 put the government ut defiance True mag.
nsnimy stskes things they are; aad when taken IN
The proper way tisconncct them frcm humiliation
1aanifesai,Qni Of temper and defiance 10 40 good.
Mr. HucsE fcmarksd that they had a d4sp conscious
CESS OF the truth Of all Tho Prcsd.nt sad.
Tho PRipBSg resumkg, obserr&d that the character
,of individual may Characterize nation which IA
nothing but aggregate of individuals; aud when a
proper spirit " msoiiesed all can barmoa.ousIy
The man who goes 10 the stake Is almost dgnned BY his
bearing lifts him above humiliation IN these csses
gentlemen, viii do the hest can While there Is
sympathy, there public Judgment which must be met
Bst assure you, gentlemen, ne DISPOSITION exists for
persecution or thirst for blood
Jsdge wAsDEAw remark thu the tone Of The news
yAreas favorable and different from what IL
~As lie then asked " The President bad seen copy !
Of the amended constitution of South Carolina. % |
coupe he had secn that we accept emancipation. He
felt prfeoy satisfied that the person spd property ~
sho negro ~cqd he projected and spoke n The great
difnculies Of regulating labor and restraining VA
srancy. &c.
The psr~Dvsr thought mary Of the evils would die
appear " they inankursted the right system. Psfs
laws protecting the co'orod man in his person and
property and he collect his debts He knew how u
IN the South The qscstion when nss presented Of
putting oolored the witness stand made
zen shrW meg shopg,ss But Ne soolsd !