The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-01-28
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TIC Mayor on the staI.d--FrteressiugD fs
eiosurss-ihe Eyes OF the Committee
Opening, &c, d.. s'
yesterday morninEths Intoxicating Ccrmt'ee hed An.
olnei session az hail pes ten proceeded take up
City Inspectors Department, through which they intend
teWk rough shod great deal n nterest was manifest
ed by the city officials in tue proceedings large num-
Der Of whom were In attendance Mayor Gunthcr was
attendance, and upon opening the session Pot upon
the stand by Judge Whiting Tie MAYOR occupied the
witnesses box for nearly three hours answering all ques.
tons put 70 him ia Straightforward patio II manner
showing not the least sign II ycxaon or wearnes Be-
low wiz be found the main 10 nts Of his testimony.
Mayor Gunther sworn, tcstifcd-Am Mayor of the City
OF New York; took my the first Monday in Janu
arv, 1891 us -
Question -parng your term OF Once did any informa
ton come 10 you IN respect 10 the CITY Inspectors de-
parment and it, workrgss Answcr--Yss sir
O. Did you make that subject Of commpni alton TO
the Common Counciif A. did the Board OF Alder
men FIRST. - H sia
Q What vas the knowledge tina, came you on that
evidence Objection sustalesap have s ier ! COPY
OF the communication with The committee IL in
sequence o. the aters aat came to nv knowledge that
knowledge suspended ~ Booe from Office. s n
= , 70 you know Whether any and II any, action
was aken on your cominnn cation cf suspension9 A. II
was referred TO committee, who calod meeting, the
proceedings Of which do collect: they pub
nc a. the time have nopersona knowledge what action
Q Have you any personal knowledge Of how the City
inspector department IS worked A. know upon
REPRESENTATIONS That have been made 20 me by parties.
O. Have YOU made that n subject or com nluncaon to
the Common Council? A. have.
q D'd you send a copy TO Mr.. Boole A. Yes, sr,-I
= Q DID Mr. Doole make you any answer to thisf A.
Q Did you have any consultation with b i'm about the
mattcrs A. No, sir I. PAL
0; DO You know Of my mattcr connected with the
Int vctf I'm
tne committee 70 know9 A. know where good deal
OF money could De saved there three ray rolls N
ge'her. s4s s--a#.-
Please state what you refer to- A The pay rolls OF
ne Waens Health Wardens and Ordinance Inspectors
10 you know anything Of tho Special Inspectorsa
a. Nothing in particular ~.
o Are they at all necessary A. Icannot sreak from
my own nlsonaI knowledge: my nrs marshal thinks
not; think that numbers o. them could DO dispensed
with there are inspectors OF dumping grounds: do not
know how many; know only from repre- sentations
made to M by paces connected with the departments
thcre expenses the department that could be dis
penscd with men receive py for carrying away ashes
which am informed could be done gratnitously; have
known this ever since have been In Office; do not
Know inc actual expense OF removing ashes,
O. when the appropriation Of 5000 900 was mods for
Gean,nE the streets and the tax leyy authorized by he
sessed upon tho citizensS A. think 1t was.
@ DO you know whether the Com2roler rnt that
appropriation In the tax evy2 A. do not know, bnt
O. Do You know why IT was omit,cds A. Tho Comp
troler camod II wns impossible 10 make aconiract under
the law as fraDIed by The Legislature that was qics-
ton whether the Successful bidder should have the
manure from tho streets, and II was thought
the mapure, il would be giving them nlofc than The
Legislature contem sined The Legsa.urc In THAI be-
lief made Commission composed Of tho Mayor, Comp
tract and advertise for proposals for Cleaning the streets
for sum not exceeding 100000, tho party to eivo
ard specifications drawn Up and advertisements put out
calling for proposals Two bids in but ruled
out as not coming up to tho specifications. Mr..
in point of fact for $500 900 but at the time mstook
the amount Of surcty for the bid and rejected H. neither
under tho ruling Of Counsel for tho Corporation We
altered the specifications and readvertsed no bs were
made; discovered tho mistake made only when Mr.
Badger called and informed me OF ID; In the Hackey
contract the mnnrcwas given TO the contractor; this
contract not in existence when VIC advertised for
proposals
O. Did Mr. Boole give any reason, and II TO- what,
why a contract should not BIO made for cleaning the
without giving more than the law allowed by giving the
contractor tho manure and paying for carrying away the
O Did ~ enter into any calculation how the sum Of
$500 900 Of Badgers contract would be fncreasedf
@ Did he state how much it cost the city per month to
remove the ashes, &c? A. No, sir.
@ We're you aware how much It would cost the city
per mcnthy thought y cost about 500 600 month
O. You failed TO mako this contract, and was Mr..
Booc thcn employing street swcpcs and cartmen to do
@ by what authority A. by the authority OF q
solution Of the Board OF Health. 4
The resolution here produced empowering Sir.
Booic 10 clean tho streets for fear cf epidemic.
q Was there any meeting between you ana the City
Inspector and others connected with the administration
OF the city with Wow Of ascortaaing how
you could money enough to meet the expenditures
the City Inspector making for cleaning the streetf
A. Yes sir.
O. At whose suggestion was that meeting calledY A.
The Comprolers the kboring men were ciamorons for
thor pay, and meeting was called.
@ What reason did the Comptroller glvo for not ray
ing them2 A. There was no money the uneApcndcd ap-
preparation Of the preceding year did no. appear
q State how the mcncy GOT; A. Tho Comptroller
Counsel to the Corporation City Inspector and the Mayor
held meeting 10 suggest some way Of procuring money
to the Demands and 1t concluded that the men
should certify how many loads they had dumped their
checks the same app arng which In the aggregate
would be converted INTO Joint note tho groiwa; Bank
agreeing to advance the money which be coll cted
BY the bank in the form 81 Judgment aeans the city
Q. Who suggested that device. A. cannot Say.
Can You recolicct what Mr.. Boole said on the sub
jecn A. cannot
vance the money upon your noter A. The arrangement
made that the bank would cash joint note; the
Comptroller would swear the men, the amount be mado
up judgment upon tho city procured and tho money
advanced It was believed that II was the only means to
It was all settled between you that the Corporation
Counsel would render judgment against the city 10
favor Of the bank, was u noty A. Yes, sir
O. IL was all made up thingy A. II was 30 under
O. Did any Of you gentlemen gay to the city Inspector
@ Did you not say that II would cost tho city two or
three times the amount appropriated by this way az get
ting money! felt would be SO do not RENE mber
the amount Of my first note II was made mp from the
pay rolls OF Mr. Brennan II was very heavy.
@ Mr.. Palmer OF the Broadway Bank, recovered on
the nth Of June 1894 s2o29s4 e. Your Judgment WAS
on this first motor A. Yes, sir.
O. Upon the Judgment procured the Comptroller would
draw his warrant you would eountersign H. take II 10
the bank and draw the money! A. Yes, sir
Did you not give another ON the 2ist Of July 1904,
for sos, s92 227 I think did.
Q. WAS present when you asked about making these
ratesS A. Yes, sir -
sir =. Ef#
@ And still you figned III A. Yes, SIR.
Q. Why did you do III A. Because II was tho only
way 10 raise the money.
D. Have you demonstrated with the City Inspector
Comptroller with regard 70 this course Of proceeding
A. ! have with the Comptroller only.
Cross examined by counsel for sir Boolc
Mr. Bools wm appointed In $685. do not remember tho
month; at that time tho contract known ~ the
Hackley contract was virtually abandoned.
q. DO you remember about that time that the Com
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