The New York herald., 1865-06-09
NEW YORK, FRIDAY, JUNE 8, 1865.

begun in the interests Of freedom all over the
executing the yanquished traitors2 responses OF
'No, no." and "Yes yes) Then, resumed the speaker
part Of you would have regretted had Washington and
Franklin fallen into the hands OF the f0e that they were
not executed
voIcE-There is no similarity
ASorHER VoICE-They want the French guilIotine.
Mr.. SMTH-we will come TO that; II America pursued
such course crowned heads would hereafter plead her
example in treating the vanquished as traitors
WASHINGTON COMPARED TO JEFF DAvr.
GENTLEMAN in the audience thus addressed the
speaker-Do you undertake to compare Washington or
Franklin 10 JEFF DavisS
Mr. SMITH, have had Just such ohjectors in my
mind will answer them directly.
VOIcE-Gve them fits.
Mr. SMITH, believe with the ohjector the cause Of
Washington and Franklin to have been just, hnd the
cause Davis ana Lee TO unjust But how that
help my opponenT am now speaking OF the example
Of America the nations down through the ages Tho
substance Of the objection made was ths:-The
OF my enemy is unjust one, and 80 he
goes TO hanging the enemy The day might come
when Hungary and Ireland might rise up-oppressed
Ireland because nation was oppressed who we're
compelled support religion, IL it be their own
Would America set the example Of blood to England II
she should defeat Ireland agans he was confident that
the American government had no idea that II was urged
by bl0odthrsty in the pulpit and in the press 10
become the great betayer Of the cause OF freedom for
all the nations
A CRITICAL QUAKER OUT IN MEETING.
An elderly man in the audience in an Aminidab Sleek
PARSONS not in place. friend Smith. give thee
credit for thy benevoenee and for thy godke cemency
but then thou dost fail to portray the issue"
Mr. SMITH, see my friend is but half converted be-
yerted. Great laushterJ Men said, and per,
taking the rebels out from under the law OF war
was not to crafty spirit Of revenge but to serve the
s., to themselves and to the workings Of their
hearts nevertheless they were stone blind to the fact
that justice could never be served by injustice and
jury.
''fRrEND' MAKES ANOTHER CRITICISM
The Quaker gentleman again spoke out In meeting
In measured tones-"The analogy friend Smith, does
not appear.
Cries of "Put him out 'put him out" during which
the venerable offensive parsonage maintained the most
perfect equanimity and tranquility of spirit.
Mr.. SMITH went on to speak OF the "bargan' which
the cndng parties-the North and the South-made
the enemy the day of its decisive they would
unfurl the black flag the South would have refused to
take prisoners.
voicE-Dd they 90 it in the Of Fort Pillow?
ANOTHER vOTg-Do understand Mr.. Smith to say that
we conducted this war according to international law
Mr. SAIrH-By a bond under duress, do you mean?
Mr.. snrH-why aint you ashamed to say that this
mighty people of the North were put in state Of dnress
by vanquished Southy daughter and cheers The
speaker then alluded to the apparent justification which
the South had in commencing the rebellion, by the
almost universal belief in the doctrine OF State sove
reigntv, which he condemned in principle
VoICE-Horace Greeley believes in II.
am insist that the doctrine Is sound "a voice. at
is sound y Davis Lee and Brecknrdge greatly TO
blame, and ought TO have followed the teachings of
Washington and Hamilton rather than Of Madison and
Calhoun but he pted them as well as blamed them and
quoted this scripture Consider this also lest thou also
be tempted" He paid glowing eulogium to the rei-
gon Of Jesns Christ which ncnlcated the rule of CON
duct which all could understand-"Do ~ you would be
done by" He thc speaker) would loathe himself II he
had particle OF hate revenge toward any Of his
Southern brethren. II we hated them when they wero
our rampant foe, could not love them when they
that widespread belief in the doctrine OF state
sovereignty would aggravate greatly the mean
s Of the MrG h. IN trying hSn as %
He went to speak Of the crime OF starving and muir
derng prisoners, and said the North in part guilty OF
1t for the crime proceeded from the slavery spirit
the spirit which denied all rights the black He
affirmed that the crimes Of slavery the crimes Of
the North well the South and the danger that
in the dishonesty Of the North, she would commit
awful crime.
THE NORTH AND rHx SOUTH SHOULD sIr ON THE STOOL ov
REPENTANCE
The only duty OF the North above all others was to
humble herself by the side Of the South in common
pentance for common sn-tapplause)-and just az
surely the North punished the South would she lose
all inclination to that duty II was the proslayery spirit
that assassnacd the President and that spirit dwelt In
Northern a. well as in Southern bosoms
s0METBING
Now, gentlemen, don't mob out Of the house when
ask you whether even Booth was not product OF the
North well OF the South Was he not moulded by
Northern pupts Northern presses and Northern spirits,
we'll a by Southern pulpts, presses and ussges?
A voicK-No; he was not
Mr sMrH--rhcre Is one OF my hearers who seems to
doubt IL.
ANOTHER voIcE-He is only a crazy Frenchman
Mr. SsnH-There a worse type OF pro
slavcryism this land than that which this
tlN NNO ycus dSo NhCh sicW anu DuTneu
negroes.
PERTINENT INQUIRY ABOUT THE REsxL LEApKRs
gentleman In the audience rose, and alluding to n
remark made by the speaker TO the effect that had vote
Of the South been taken upon the proprety OF
sinatng President Lincoln they would have discountcn
anced the deed the auditor remarked Il desire 10 ak
the speaker in view Of the evidence which has been de-
velopcd within u few days ~ Washington, what would
have been the vote of the leaders at the South"
NOitE-It was only the evidence OF a horse thief
THE SOUTH PuNrHED TOO MUCH
Mr. SMITH begged the question, FOR lie proceeded to
sRyI hold that the South has been already punished
enough, aye, too much (Ii,scs and applause.)
MS VIEWS or RFco"sTRrcTfOS.
Mr. SsnrH then gnve his views Of reconstruction at
great length, which were, substantially, tat, the
North and the South had drank beverage the blood
Of the black man. they should let bygones be bygoncs
that the South must give up slavery men women
should lose aain political or civil rights by virtue
Of origin that the great landed estates Of the
South should be broken up and parcod out TO her poor
instead Of given 20 Union soldiers that the North should
utterly rcpudae the Southern debt and that 10 the loyal
belongs the ballot box. Among tho loyal he did cot in
"book"-tmoanng the Holy Bibe) cannot,
said he ransmute any traitor in loyal man by pro
much of sham as that All the disloyal must
be kept away from the ballot boxhe masses for ten
years and the leaders for life Some said that the black
man could not vote. verily, verify say unto you
(coniinucd the ayowed dsbclicver In the Bible) you
must be born again. llaughtcr) Never until they
were born again would they get rid Of the spirit Of caste
The black vote was necessary to the salvation Of the
nation. He denied that the President competent to
make peace, and argued that long the country
prescribe the terms upon which peace should be made;
but when tho laws of set aside, then
the constitutional law resumed its sway the states
He spoke Of the trials for treason aud Coneuded that
the government had no right 60 hold amcnabc 10
the law Of treason when they acknowledged 10 be
und r the protection of the laws of war Hc thought
JcL Davis should rot be tried for treason until the
charge Of completely with the assassination Of the Pres
dent nrs proven. In conclusion, Mr. smith eulo-
gizcd Precedent Lineons character and cxh0rct his
hearers TO exercise the spirit Of forgiveness which he
did towards the south
- RENARKs ny MR. GREELEY.
Loud calls were made for Greeley and promptly re-
spondcd TO- He said he In favor OF trying AL men,
Narth and south, who had violated The laws ol war by
starlu and shooting prisoners; but they could not be
brought Co ial unless was assumed that the laws of
governed the contest. When that was proved the
who were parolcd under the laws OF warhc dd not
care D. wa Lee whom he believed b. y" very black
trator-c0ud 4 not be tried or hung without a black
violation OF faith. Great chccring)
FRANcs R'fS, who was seated IN the audience,
called ont 70 make speech, and Jumped uIon The stage
He proc cled 10 run OF n wild ncohoenl strain for
iew mn1ts his hafangle provoking great mirth