The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1865-11-11

Mr. Cardwel with all his solid sense has not succeeded
In New Zealand or the British American colonies; Sr
George Grey required two votes of the House to whip
him into common sense in the matter OF pIison u,soi
pline and retries prisoners as aPpea'e bausS ma
govern cannot defend his government or conciate INC
governed; Mr.. Cowper IL always trying 20 manage inc
only JOB the House Is determined 70 na ~ ~ 81,
Robert Peel the Irish will make his removal uhei nrs.
condition The constituencies are weary OF u AT yet ~ u
with this dead weight upon his efforts that mr. uaustono
is TO face a House OF Commons doubtful whether to
worship disrust Who Is to support MN .ncrer ne
will be attacked every day of his life by debaers like
Mr. Disrac and Lord Cranbourne men who cannot only
give wounds but pour vrol into the WOUNDS tney nave
made; and though himself more than match TOT ootn
MASTER but who is to protect his rear? Sir hounde
Palmer will have enough TO do to neutraile or nush
Cairns Sir George Grey is no match ior Lora @
Sir Charles Wood simply exasperates an audience nun
gerng for more light, and as to Mr. Cardwel ne Is as
useful a sixty FOUNDER in the hed-irresistpie II
the cnemy will only stand exactly within range MT
Gladstone is then reminded that it his duty TO see that
the party which looks TO him leader has iair share
Of influence on the ana 70 eaUss as
ones self The Spectator does not want the govern.
be transferred to Lord Mamesbury, Mr. Dsraeli
and Lord Cranbourne and therefore urges the intro
duction OF fresh blood the Cabinet There are at
least half dozen now in the House. each OF whom
may aspire to Office, and on whom MT Giadstone may
rely.
THE COMING DELUGE.
from the London Press pisrae's organN.
Though the latter part or Lord Palmerstons political
passed in alliance with liberal legislators yet
the whole, he remained faithful to the principles
which he professed in tho earlier portion of his fe and
II only when he failed in this respect that his in
1uence imperiled Mr. Gladstone, like the departed
statesman whose wand seek to WELD, graduated in
the tory school, but his detection he has gone TO much
greater Lengths than LOrd Pdimerston, who ap-
peared the advocate OF manhood suffrage. In their
anxiety to propate the radicals there no telling what
concessions liberal aspirans for Office may make for
when politicians bid against the other they are apt
to become reckless Of consequences Just now liberalism
Is in most precar'ous condition If its advocates ad-
direction itg existence iS mDered
and If they accept Mr. Brghts livery The result may be
easily toreseen
Tho British Government and tho Fenfans.
APPROACHING TRIAL or THE PRISONERS.
dublin (OcL 27 correspondence Of the London Times
The Special Commission for the county and city OF
Dublin to try the Fenan prisoners has been prepared
and is ready for signature and enrolment by the
Clerk OF the Crown and Hanapcr II is directed to the
Right Hon William Keogh Second Justice Of the Court
of Common Pleas and the Right Hon. John David Ftz-
gerald, Fourth Justice Of the Court Of Queens Bench
who directed TO have IL sped Monday the 9th of
November The requisite directions have been given TO
the Clerk OF the Crown to have the precpts signed by
those learned judges The object Of issuing this COM
mission Is to doubt Of the competency OF the
Court sitting under the Commission OF Over and Termi
issued In the first year Of the present reign TO try
all the prisoners charged with completely tho Fenian
conspiracy matter where arrested TO what tribunal
committed for trial
1t is the intention Of the Crown to try all the prisoners
charged throughout the country with high treason
treason felony the administration of unlawful oaths
in Dublin and preparations being made TO afford the
necessary JAN accommodation TOT tnem. indictments
are also being prepared LAYING the venue in Dublin
These documents are exceedingly vouminous, and are
at present taxing all the OF Mr. Anderson the
efficient Crown Solicitor, to have them complete In time
Tho nfomatons have boen printed and copies furnished
to tho prisoners who will also be supplied with copies Of
the indictments early as possible The effect OF the
issue of the Special Commission will be to supersede the
commission which has been acted upon for twenty eight
years that when II next becomes necessary to try
ordinary offenders, new general Commission OF Oyer
and Terminer will have 10 be directed Tho prosecution
viii be conducted by the Attorney General, the
S %as Gcnera, mt Brewster, nr oc MT as
Murphy and Mr. Edward Beytagh. Tho counsel for the
defence will be Mr. Isaac Butt, @ G.; Mr.. William J.
Sidney, Q. c.; Mr. r. Dowse, O. c.; Mr.. George Waters
and Mr. Michael OIoghlen instructed by Messrs Ed
ward A. Ennis and John Iawless.
II is stated by the Dublin Express that Mr.. Whtesde
q c., declined TO he professionally engaged In the case
because when Attorney General he conducted In Traee
and Cork the prosecution Of thu members OF the Phoenix
conspiracy which was In many respects similar TO the
Fenen conspiracy and capacity gave expression
10 certain opinions which might become tho subject Of
The Cork papers state that special commission has
been ordered fof Cork city and county, to open tho
9th OF November for tho trial OF the prisoners
members Of illegal society The Cork prisoners will
therefore be tried in Cork and not In Dublin, had
boon suggested.
EXAMINATION or THE NEW YORK TRIBUNE ooRRE.
sPONDENT.
At the Queenstown Petty Sessions on wednesday, Mr.
Alfred M. Williams, who had been arrested on the pre-.
vious day. his arrival from America by tho City OF
Limerick was brought up in order TO be rcmanded for
further Investigation At the request Of the prisoner Mr.
Eastman the American Consul sent for. and on his
private, which permitted and they both retired for
some time to the magistrates room.
prisoner was arrested on his arrival rom New York per
the City OF Limerick in consequence OF having In his
possession documents which clearly proved that he
was connected with the Fcnan movement
Mr. M'Lcod-He il under arrest for having In his pos
session firearms. Let have evidence TO
what documents were found on the prisoner
M 0Conppl1 said ha xyoutd nv mi "
Subconsable John Seay stated that he present a.
the arrest OF the prisoner Before searching the prisoner
witness asked him n he had any in his possession,
TO which he replied he had not Witness then searched
the prisoner and found upon him small eight barreled
revolver.
Mr. MIeod-Did not tell the prisoner that this was
~ ~claned district until after he denied having any
arms 70 did not alter his statement then. Witness
sd - documents ON the prisoner which relat
The prisoner h'-e made n remark, and
that Mr. WILLIAMS should be remanded for eight
days TO inquire into the documents found on him
There was charge against him Of having firearms In his
possession IN procialme, district which itself made
him liable TO Imprisonment for one year He fMIeod)
thought short information should BE- made by Mr..
Mr. Greaves' information ws then read the substance
OF which follows.-T WA present ON the arrival
Of The tender from the CITY Of ncrick yesterday Mr.
ing him he asked II he had a,y firearms in his noe
session, TO which he replied that q had not; b don
being searched very small eight brreiled Jver vas
found in carpet bag, with amnuno % matcn' sev
eral documents were found IN Mr. Williams u.cu-
ments produced Mr. Williams opened the earpet pay.
had not time 10 examine tie documents; but " re-
mand Is granted will hav' inquiries MADE respecting
them. = =.
Mr. o'Connell then applied for a remand He would
he SAID have little delay as possible IN investigating
tho documents so the prisoner might not Do unne'
cessarily detained. go
Upon being informed Of his privilege TO ask questions
OF the witness Mr. Williams asked the following :,
The Prisoner 10 Mr. Greavcs)Did not submit Will.
ingly TO be searcheds
Mr.. Greaves--yes.
Prisoner-Did answer all your questions freely
Mr. Greaves--You did.
Prisoner-where was the pistol found'
Mr. Greaves-Sealy policeman, gave IL TO me
prisoner-was not the pistol found in my dressing
case-the usual place for such thingsy
Mr.. Greaves--Yes
John Sealy was examined He said-I remember the
24th before searched the prisoner asked him II ne
had any firearms ammunition he replied that ne nad
not upon searching his luggage found the pistol ano