New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1865-05-19

Fort McHenry, from which place he was released
through the agency Of the French Consul The witness
added that the person TO whom he referred becoming
destitute Of means, took situation farm; that nc
the wness) subsequently met him. and finally promised
TO do all he could Two weeks after returnngt to WASH
ington he called upon by st. Marie. Judge Bng'
ham then stated there was no necessity for any farther
explanation.
O. Did you pay his board at the Reynolds House. or
Judge BiHgham-I object to the question as being
matter Of no consequence whether the witness did or
did not.
o. Did lie state TO you at any time that there no
eristocracy at the North, and he wished to 60 South
Judge BiHeham-I object to that also, as it is no mat
ter whether he did or not
O. Dd he state to yon that II he could not get to the
South in any other way he would join Federal regi-
ment and desertf
Judge Binsham-I object to that 500; he is not a
O. Doyou know whether Mr.. Reynolds reported any
of his St. Mares reasonable talk language at that
time to the War Department.
Judge Bin1hdm-I object TO that too; would like TO
know what that is introduced for.
Mr.. Edkin-t is introduced for the purpose OF show
inc that the witness on the stand a sympahizer
with Confederates and Rebels and that lie assisted this
else to prove afterward.
RECESS.
TIE PRESIDENT OF THE CoURI-The time for our
usual recess has arrived. The Court VIII now take a
recess til two o'clock.
A recess was accordingly taken.
REAssEMBLING.
Upon the reassembing Of the Court the question pro-
pounded by Mr.. Eakin. was again put. Judge blnEnuh
sal that he objected to the question on the ground that
II was immateria. Matters that not in evidence
should not be admitted In this matter OF what con
Germ was IL what Reynolds rep0riedi II tue genue
man proposed to ask the witness whether he himself
was guilty Of any reasonable practices, nobody Wond
object TO it. Tho objection was then sustained
Mr. Edkin.-Inasmuch rs the JudgeAdvocate has IN
formed US tina, he will not object 10 any questions that
may be asked the witness with respect bis own con-
duct will address few nterrosations to that effect
O. Did you give notice 10 Lieut. Mare that he would
probably be arrested by the Government A. No, sir.
had no time to give such notice. Lieut.. Marc one
morning and leit be aiterward enlisted in Delaware
regiment and taken prisoner and lodged in Castle
Thunder
@ Are You clerk in tie War Department. \.
haze been.
O Did you, while a clerk in the War Department,
agree TO communicate to any OF the prisoners AZ inc
bar any Information you might obtain from that Depart
O. Are You acquainted with Mr. HOWELL A. have
met him at Mrs. Surraifs hQuse.
O. What was liowelrs first name a. when he
al the house he gave the name Of Spencer be re-
fused 10 give me his right name nj tie house; after
ward learned from John Surratt that his namc was
Augustus Howell.
o. Were YOU intimate with him. A. was Intro
dnced 10 him. never had any conversation with BIN,
on the contrary. said 10 Capt. Gleason Of the War
Department. ''Captain, there il a blookaderunner at
our houseshall give him up = ngatcd the question
The man might be there. and let him go.
o. Dd YOU ever have any conversation with Howell
In relation TO going South yourself, A. told him that
divinity and would like 10 be In Richmond for the puf'
pose OF continuing my studies.
1 o. Did he offer Ia make any arrangements In Rich
mond with view TO getting you place there A.
By NJ. cro,pi,s-Q Was your desire to go to Rich
mond for the pcrpose u continuing your theological
stndcsi A. Yes. SIR
q. For What reason &c -
lbhectcd to by Nr. ;sstin.J
q. While you were in the War Department did this
n fiuler, A
O What was the purpose of his teaching you the
ciplcri A. He stated no particular purpose
o. Was It not for the purpose of corresponding with
you from Richmond A. No. sir: lie made no such
rangenens for corresponding: the CIPHER alphabet was
in nv box and doubt found there; / wrote
poem Of Longfellows in this cypher ard that Is the
only use / made Of II; / showed the poem written in
that cypher to Mr. Cruikshank Of the War Depart
ment
O. Is that all the you ever made OF the cypheri
4. Yes, sir; 1 never had word Of correspondence
with Howell and never saw him the second time until
saw him in prison.
O. Was any objections ever made by any Of these
prisoners AT the bar to your being present at their con-
yerse,ionst A. Not any that heard but they always
withdrew themselves; when Surratt in tie paror
he would converse with me for about five minutes on
general topics and he would then give Booth nudge.
or Booth would give him n nudge. and they would go
and sit stairs for two or three hours; never had
word of private conversation with them which would
not like the world To hear
o. Did Howell give you the key 10 that cypher A.
He showed me the cyphcr or alphabet. aud how to
use IT.. ~
O. lie taught you it. did he pot' A. Imade no use
of it whatever except upon that particular occasion
when / showed it 20 Mr.. Crukshank.
q That was not an answer to my question lie
taught you the cypher, did he not. A. Well yes, sir
~ Now according to the best Of yonr recollection
how soon was that after his return from Richmond :
A. lie had returned from New York. and he did not
tell me when he had returned from Richmond, because
il was the first and only time ever saw tho man In my
life he was well acquainted with Mrs Surrat and his
nickname around the house was Spencer he had been
in the house day or day and half before L met
him.
o. Did lie tell yon that That was the cipher used in
Richmondf A. No. sir
o. You stated that the prisoners were free and unre
served In their conversation while In your presence
a. They spoke In my presence on general topics ana
so ou they never spoke to Of their private business
o. DO We understand you rs stating TO the Court
that in al your cor ersaiions with them you never
learned of any intended reasonable act or conspiracy
OF tbeirsf A. never did; would have been The last
man In the world to have suspected John Surrati my
school mate and companion OF the murder oil Tue fiesi
dent of the United States.
d. Yon state that your suspicious were aroused at
one time by something you saw at Mrs. surratts, a.
Nv suspicious were aroused by John sIffatf, ana by
MI, man Payne and Booth coming 10 the house; my
were again aroused by their frequent private
conversations by seeing Payne aud sufIat with bowie
knives. and by finding false mu,tache IN my room
Your snsriciors were not aroused then by the fact
NJ srrratt's having on three pairs OF drnweSf y.
thought he was going TO take long ride IL tue country.
and that perhaps he was going South.
y. linen, us your uspiV4ohs W'IV "ious'v VI 'i'
d. lelen occasions aud you had reason tn believe there
was something in the wind that was improper, did you
communicate your suspicious 10 the War Department
A. NV suspicious not of fixed or definite charac
ter did not know what they intended TO lo ! made
confident Of Capt Gleason OF the War Department,
and told him that Booth was A secret sympahzer; L
mentioned -naches Of tho conversation had heard,
and said TO him Captain. what do you think o. tgis
nlF We then talked over what they might possibly be
AT; whether they could be bearers Of DISPATCHES
or blockade runners; one tiuo j saw III te
paper the capture Of President LINCOLN Freely
discussed and I said to him: "Captain,