The New York herald., 1865-05-17
THE TRIAL.


. o Men OF the theatreS A. Yes; men who were at the
=. @ How many men were out the back door a that
umei A. Not more than three or four when came
came down IN short time sr rss ,bat Ssd
vas The same person who brought the horse there that
Could you see spanger all the time that he was on
sne stages When he was working in that time could
Q Did you look at him that nghtf A. did not
tce him particularly that night any more than usually
aid would not have noticed him bad not Booth called
Q You do not know whether he was on that night or
noU A. He was when saw him
@ What 1t you asked Spangler when you came
DOWN. A. asked him who 1t was holding the horse at
che door, he told me 70 hush and not say anything all
70 him, and never said any more to him
@ Was he excitedf A. He appeared to be.
q Was every person excteds A. Everybody appeared
o Did you not say he replied to you "Hush and not
Gay anything to hms" A. should have said he told me
not 70 say anything about it.
Q Did you ever see him wear moustaches A No,
:, By Judge HoIr-Q. This remark he made to you
Sis assh 90 not t;,| ssy anything ~ him about w,s %ms
Yes; right at the door, as went out
O Did he make any further remarks q reason why
you should not say anything 70 hims A. No. not word
Q Did you SEQ Booth go ont Of the DOOR A. No;
hoard his horse Of the aliey which way he went
right or ielt cannot tell heard the rang of his feet
Was the door left open at that time, where Booth
whether il was opened from the time he went GU. do
not know came down three stories before reaching tho
door
q Do you know Of anybody who probably heard the
remark TO spangler and his rcplyY No, sir; do not
know that any person vas noticing it ut ALL there were
D good many persons round.
BY the CoUKr-Q. when Booth called to spangler tho
nrst time did you SEQ where he wasS A. No; when he
Caed tne nrst TINE did nor notice where he was when
he called the second and third time noticed where he
was standing
Q Where did he go tor A. He went towards the door
and got underneath the "Hy that could not him
any more until looked out of the window.
Q. How long was he with BoothY A. could not tell;
never saw him any more until came down stairs
Q. When spanger told you to hush and no. say any
pose about yard and N. 1 half from 't the door '
@ Was anybody else near the doorS A. Not as know
there was nobody between him and me and the door
@ Did he have hold Of the door at the timoS A. No;
he was walking across in front OF the door.
Q. Was anybody else between him and the doorf A.
@ Was It light or dark9 A. 1t was right dark 1t was
adark night anyway and there was no light right there
GROSS sExAaINAIIoS BY Mr. EWING.
We're you and Spangler inside the door on cider
q where were the other people whom you say were
about theref A. Standing just around-somo Of them
little further from tn, door between these people
and the door; they in the alley.
By the coysr-Q Did he appear to be guarding that
Did he act as II ho trying to prevent persons
% I'M se.ns IN sns x" oS. q the aoo NO. no
eimo Booth had gone out Of ths alley.
TESTIMONY OF JOHN sELEcMAN.
BY JUD0R HOLT
g Arc you connected with Ford's theatros A. arm.
Were you present the night of the Presidents assas
SlnatonS A. was.
O. Did you know J. Wilkes BoothS A. Yea
Did you or not see him that night; IL so, At what
hour and under what circumstances A. I saw him
Ss % tho '
Sootn sSid Help me all you can won't your" he re
Did hs ssy that as he came up to the door on his
horses A. Yes when he came up on his horse.
@ Was that the first remark he nader A. The frst
words heard him say were-"Ned, help all you cam
@ How long was that before the President was shot,
ysu oS.:s tho io:s ss'ss
Q Yos did NO. see Booth in front. A. I jus. caugh.
On the right hand side.
Q. What hour did you SEQ him going ou. at tina.
entranoes Il was hafpast ten, judge after he had
O Do you moan hs went out at the back doors A
c.oss.ExAMxEp sr Mr. nwNo.
O DIG you hear him calling SpanyIerf A. No; tho
Art heard him sy oa mo ell saS ssn"
9 Did you .es Booth Eide up' A. No, sir; the horse
W: ..ISs1 ssyS9sy holding the horse 'h'a' did
o Did you SEQ the horsef A. Yes. but could not
whsthor anybody held him or not, :. was so dark.
O. What u your place in the theatre. A. Assistant
8 whss . your position on the s,ases A. We have
70 set tho furniture and ak such work as that on the
what was spanslers position the stages A. stage
q was hs the principal carpsntsr9 A. No; clifford
was tho principal carpenter; spangier was hired BY
Q What was his duty during the psrformancef A.
o On which side was his posislon' A don't know
Q. Wore ysu about that night, A. Yes
@ wcre you on the stage during the whole day' A.
Except that went down TO the apothecarys store once
and, believe. was before that In restaurant next
o Did you notice the employees 80 that yon could
whether Spangsr was there through the plsy' A. No,
could not; saw him after she assassination; he
standing on the stage; he had white handkerchief In
his hand, and appeared to DO wiping his oyss
How long % was that amer % the he Presideu, was shot,
A. About ten minutes
q Did not sp.Osier frequently bold Booths horse'
@ Was Booth Aabitus Of the theatrs' did he go back
and forth freauentlys A. Yes
Q Were they ali pretty in.imatc' A. Yes
Did not he have access TO the theatre At a. timssf
O And went about behind the scenes and the green
.soomi A. Yes; anywhere at all about the theatre.
@ Is Spangler drinking mani A. think he is
O. Did Booth treat him muchY A. don't know
Q Wore you round in front Of the theatre any timc
during The performance' A. Yes, was on the pave
O Did you see anything Of spanslcr in front, A. No.
@ Al what tim, were you thcref A was therc
sntil the performance ,losed.
Q. Did you nolce tae people who wcto about therst
Q. II epang.sr Lao b.en there would you probably
have seca him? A. z ess would.
Q Di you r0tioe the Presidents coming thersf
A. Yes.
@ Did you ever see sprng'er wear moustacbc, L.
No; ! do not think he ever did; havo seen him
wear side whiskors
Q How was hts face o. that timer A. think he was
smoeth shaved.
O. You say you front Of the theatre constantly,
A. Oh no; not constantly.
Q. But frequently A. No. sir; got to the theatre
about half past eight o'clock and about the
theatre until aftor the assassnaton was In front <wo
or three times
Q. Were you there during the third acv A. No;
was on the stage during the third act
q Were you In front during the second acG A.
think was; was in the restaurant next door.
q How long before the close Of the second acH A.
About ten or fifteen m nutes
q You think 4 s5Panglsr had been there you would
have seen him. A. Yes
BY the CovRr-Q How did you ge, from the rear TO
the front OF the thearef A. There is side entrance
xrom the alley
o. You did not 20, then, through the front door,