Washington telegraph., 1865-07-12

men. lie would talk plain, as the dele
cation had said that was what they de-
sired. He could go to men who had
owned fifty or hundred slaves, and who
did not care as much for the poor white
man as they did for the negro Thos.
who own the land have the capital to
employ help, and therefore some of our
Northern friends are deceived when they
living afar off, think they can exercise a
greater control over the freedmen than
the Southern men who have been reared
where the institution of slavery has pre-
vailed. Now he did not want the lat.
Shareholders to control the negro vote S
against white men. Let each State
judge of the depository Of its own pnlit-
ical power. He was for emancipating
the white man as well as the black.
Mr. Holmes asked-ls not that alto,
gether accomplished 2
The President replied that he did not
think the questi III fu y settled. The
question as to whether the black man
shall be engraf;ed in the Constitution
will be settled as we go along. He would
not disguise the fact that while he had
been prosecuted and denounced at the
South as a traitor he loved the grea,
mass of the Southern peo lie He OPP
posed the rebellion at it. breaking cut,
and fought it everywhere, and now want
ed the principles of the Government. car
ried out and maintained
Mr.. Holmes interrupted by saving
We want To g back 10 the same posi-
ton as you describe, as we are without
law, no courts are open. and you have
the power TO assist us.
Tie PRESIDENT replied that the Co ern
ment cannot go on unless it is based on
right. The people of South Car,lin.,
must have Convention and amend their
Constitution, aboishing slavery, and
this must be done in gond faith. and the
Convention er Legislature must adopt
the proposed amendment to the Csnsli-
tuition Of the United States which pro-
hibits and exc udes slavery everywhere
President Johnson asked tie delegates
to submit who they would prefer as Pro-
visional Governor
To this they replied they had a list OF
men, viz: VI c aharty. B"yce, C,l
Manning, late Governor, and B. L Perry,
all of them spoken of as good men. but
wno had been more or less involved III
the rebellion. Mr.. Perry was a District
Judge in the Confedrraey few weeks
before it collapsed, and is said to have
always been a good Union man and a
gentleman of strict integrity. The people.
certainly would respect him aud he could
not fail To be accepted
! h. President said lie knew Mr.. Perry
well, havi"g served with him in Com
gress. There was no spirit of vengeance
Or viTdictivenes' on the part of Govern
ment, whose only desire was TO restore
the relations which formerly .x.sied. lie
was not now plepar' d TO give an am -wer
as to whom liz should appoint, but, at a
Cabinet meeting IN Tuesday, he " uld
rep-a the substance of this Interview,
with hope TO the restoration which the
gentlemen present desired.
The delegation seemed to be much
leased with the proceedings, and lin
eIel for some tine to individually con-
verse with the President.
Spec ial Corr, spondence of the Chics 20 Time J
WASHINGTON. june l6 The opposi-
ton to the President. or account of the
determined stand which he has taken On
the question Of negro suffrage in tie
South, i. becoming more Intense every
day. AMI is rapidly assuming an organ
lied form. 1t will be of quite a forini-
dable nature by the time Congress meets
next D-cember. whether it extends Ia
that body or not So far As | have been
able t. learn, no extra session will br
called. Fortunately, in his case, The
powers possessed by the sxecutive are
quite am. lie to enable him to carry on
the government tiil then. in spite of the
howls and growls Of the malcontents.
The ranks of the after are swelling every
day. The Mississippi pro. lamatlon and
the appointment OF Judge Shark y as
Governor o that State, have brought
them n powe tul reintorc-m. ut, and they
ae even coun ing now on the open aid
of the New York Tribune. That sheet
comes out yesterday in a savage on
sIaugkt against Judge Sharkey. which
gives rue radicals here great aid and
comfort
The North Carolina proclamation,
they thought. was bad enough. In the
oth-r southern States, they hoped that a
different system would be adopted; that
the Governors appointed would be North
rrn men; and that measures would be
taken which would not unly disfranclise
nearly all the Sou heln citizens. but
which would also open the way f,r the
negroes to vote. But now that Missis
sippi is "recomstructed" and brought
back into practical relations with the
Union on the same pr nciple> as were
adopted in Nor Caroiina and to crown
all, Southern man. a man identified
with TIE interests of Miss ssippi. and u
slave-owner all his lie, is appointed gov
ernor of that State, their rage knows no
bounds They are convinced now that
the President has cut .oose from them,
and Intends to carry on the government
without them.
But they, on their part, are deter
mined that he shall no do this They
know what strong hold they possessed
on the late Pre- >ident, how they compelled
h IN to yield tn pressure" aud they are