New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1864-07-12
-. u.,woen Fremont, Wendell
Phillips and Heinzen.
From Fhs Ncus zoit Of 81. bcui'.

From Fhe Neus zeit Of St louis
III, Boston Pioneer "a German paper)
.,.,., that Mr.. Heinzon editor of The Pho
-, ana Wendell Phillips had recently, upon
-, ,,vitstion OF Fremont an interview with the lat
nj. viii. on the peninsula Of Nahant near Lynn,
w,.. WHARF, the family OF Fremont arc accustomed
:. ,Depd the Summer The object OF the interview
vss of course political one and the design was to
discuss and regulate with the General several points
~ the Radical Democratic confession Of faith which
NAV bs represented as obscure or undetermined.
al, UAnSen gives in TIE Pioneer a detsiled account
eof this interview which, at the present stage OF te
electoral campaign is Of great interest," and o. wMch
We therefore give the substance. Ihe P!ontsr
ave premise that both we and MIR. Wenael amps
ie no question undiseussed that we e1patst9I VITA
out reserve on all questionable subjects ana uiat no
false delioaoy detained from giving to fremont an
opportunity 10 declare himself on an Potn agans'
hich the enemies of the party direct their attacks
and which leave is friends in uncertainty
"The result Of this interview winch lasted Tour
bonrs was that we phillips and MYSELF len MIR.
fremont both the man and the candidate for the
Presidency fully satisfied and that We felt the conf
dence which we had formerly put in him doubled rather
RELATION 10 tie Reb,s-(with regard to this point
ve remarked that he had omitted TO maintain aud
phssze in his letter the position which he had assumed
III Missouri and that there a Conspicuous mispro-
norton respecting this point and the lengthy reference
u the violations Of the law by Lneon) Fremont pre-,
III tnls respect De
that he regarded IT. he said unnecessary to recur TO 10
more fully especially when be declared himself ms fully
agreed with that paragraph Of the platform which de-
nands the suppression Of the Rebellion by force Of arms
and without compromise. 1t principally the unoP-
posed violations 81 the law by Lincoln aud Ibis Ministers
Which caused him TO fear for the Republic which in this
ysy lost her consciousness while simultaneously Ii was
morally undermined by the most Unprecedented corrup
ton. A Republic. in general could never gain by O
VA like this but II In addition such arbitrary acts OF
hs Government were allowed TO pass without tho most
determined opposition the danger al the greater.
And beside these arbitrary acts, the administration OF
Lincoln had now brought it about that stand alarmed
before the question whether the Republic can be bought
The reelection Of Lincoln had wholly become question
OF money. Fremont therefore considers 1t prime ne
eesty to stir up again the peoples eonseiopsness OF
right and thus to capacitste 1t 70 the Rephbic
I'll. Relation 10 The Slavery QresfioH-'T1ere must
hDo cessation nor rest until Slavery is extirpsed to
the last root .....ll 10 ..f.
"III Rslatfoa TO the Riskss Of Negroes negroes
ought to have all the rights Of the whites The word
white must disappear from the laws aud constitutions
'The absolute equality Of al men before the law (ac-
o0dng TO Phillips, the gem Of the pst,orn), was eI'
hsusting this question
SIV Tas Copkseation Qnes,ion-Fremont knows
s condition and character Of the South from personal
obsry alton and experience IIe maintains that with
tsplagraph Of the Cleveland platform it now reads
10 one would be able TO effect reconstruction Of the
South The paragraph did not speak Of conscation Of
Ne lands Of only the leaders Of the Rebellion but In
general Of the Rebel lands, and IL must therefore, be
regarded "a measure OF revenge. IL must have also
e effect 10 in1ame all the Rebels to the utmost resist,
snce and make them irreeoncable. Thus construed,
nnst moreover produce the most unfavorable preiu.
Dice against party which wished TO attempt rceen-
street on Of States with population from which they
had taken all their property or land For these reasons
be had regarded il necessary TO mitigate the impression
Of this psragi aph and BY bis declaration 70 Poa 10 its
possible effect IL eoHhsoation was to be limited 10 the
ehief eulprits the leaders. be agreed to 1t.
~. TAS Relation tke Demoerofs4-NOt only on ac-
count Of the disgrsceful relations TO foreign countries
and the arbitrarness and corruption AT home but also
On account OF its total inability TO restore the South to
the Union, even al the greatest sacrifice, the admin
ttraton Of lincoln is the ruin Of the country and ne
remove the chief object upon which everything else is
contingent. Fremont is of opinion that proongation
Of the administration Of Lincoln would be followed by
tie Independence Of the South. which, in turn would
Be followed by the secession Of the est from the East
and the downfall of the Republic In view. therefore
o. the immense importance Of the removal OF Lincoln
from Washington. and IN view Of the immense power
which the possession and the employment OF all the
means Of the nation places st his dispOa the most hE
portant point is TO unite against hum al the elements
which available for the salvation OF the Republic
and for such a union the Democratic uuiOn fur
nsbed the largest contingent. At sVoh a union. a
denial and remuneration OF the platform or in general
OF the principles OF freedom, Vas out OF the question
Let US show to the people who are attached TO the
DemOcratio party the Importance and necessity OF
unon in this time OF dangers Jet us at the same time de-
clare openly and firmly aims and principles and let
u reach out to them the hand if they share sent
nents. Shocd the abandonment Of convictions and
principles be demanded, We remain true TO them at
every risk could become President to-day. said
Fremont with an emphasis which, was in striking con
tast with his otherwise calm carriage, by abandoning
nta Ofy principles, especially with regard 10 saV
ery | would not do It, never, meyer
'The objection was also mentioned that the bulk OF
He Democratic party should unite with the Free De
mOcracy Ii would no longer be IN the power OF the
latter to carry it's principles in the former
did not consent. This objection Fremont removed by
the remark; when we conquer have again the better
portion of tho Republican party on our side and, In
that union OF all the progressive elements Of the
country will secure freedom ss the leading principle Of
our politics. s l. 100 -fy o.
"VI Relation 10 The Esp Hafion.-We represented to
Fremont that this paper in Its last numbers contained
some hints remarks and communications which by OPP
ponents might be made OF for the most injurious
nterpretaton IT was customary to ldentty the
paper with him. 20 regard as his organ and 20 assume
that il did not publish anything without his aHthoiza
ton He assured that lac rarely learned anything Oh
the cOutents OF The Nu Notion until II Lay printed be-
fore h that be had not seen Jet the Plumbers
and that the editors were fully at liberty 20 write as
they pleased upon their responsibility. There had
already been than occasion TO declare that
be rcmon bad nothing to do WITH The contents Of the
paper He was however. highly indignant. when we
showed 70 him In the last number communication not
accompanied by any remark Of the editor IN which
Democrat proposes TO nominate Fremont N CHICAGO
and 70 ADOPT the Cleveland Platform exclusive OF the
paragraphs relating Slavery He had no objection
70 ANYBODY expressing freely his opinion, but 1t
pug, not 70 be done In sueh manner as TO expose the
position of others SANDER and misnteTpretation
$40 Rights OF aliens.