New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1864-07-25

wh sas We understand the loss 10 the Government from
this cause was limited to one-hr. Divett. Five so,
called Conservatives, we regre. say "efe co'1 ~
Messr. Chairman. Dutton, Cornwall Leigh and
Pugh viii be able to explain their votes to the
satisf,ction OF their constituents The Herald viii
slso ba curious to learn how wynne. Finch
Gaskeil, Sir Baldwin Leighton. Mr.. Lever and Mr..
Ncwdegate fwin account for tthcr absence from O
division of sneb national Importance Much has been
said about the Irish vote but we find that only 6 who
do not profess Conservative principles voted with the
Opposition while % continued faithful TO the oayes and
fishes OF Government and it stated by Mr.. Coean
aid The ODOnoghue that the action OF those 10 WAS
dictated by love FOR the Conservatives but by utter
disnpproya and disgust of the policy OF the Govern
ment The idle fable u compact entirely falls to the
ground. The Herald regards the result as decided
triumph 10 the originators OF the motion =,
The Times analyse the division lists, snd says the
practice of the House Of Peers In counting proxies has
given colorado majority IN that house. which would
not have occurred II only those peers who were able 70
deliberate had been able TO vote. II the two houses had
been fused into for the purpose Of this decision the
majority Of the aggregate would have been twenty-five
in favor Of Minister'S for of the peers actually present.
and who heard the defence made by Ears RusselI
and Clarendon. 3 majority of four were aga hnd
the censure In the Commons. II there had
been no union with Ireland and if Great Britain
had voted, there would have been no interest
in the contest the English and Scotch mempe ss
voted 2es against 123 thus giving majority o, 90 en- U
tirey by the of the Irish members VINO 'oieu 90
against Ministers to 20 in their hvor mat iiigoIn!
OF AZ Irish members comprised Tue uiuanon'ei.. -,
hers who call Themselves Liberal politicians and Who
as they explained through their mouthP9ee nIs
ODonoghue voted not upon tho question OF rn"nS
of Denmark and Germany but upon the genera
of want OF confidence in the Government Ina. Is W
say, they were making demonstruon aes s o
King OF ITALY and Garbald and against LORD faiiner
SION for his Italian policy Amy one who desires to
judge OF the public opinion Of this c9lntry upon tne m
maSiae oueston of the foreign policy 0f the present
Goye,nmen. must eliminate this Ultranontane element
entirely from the DIVISION for those ~ votes were not IN
\ Il a1r.ara atom
very not against Germany, but against Italy
Tie Times, ia leader the recent debate. admits
that we may learn the absolute necessity OF com
plete reform in system Of foreign diplomacy We
abstain from interfering fighting or threatening
except when immediate interests are concerned
and avoid that busy meddling diplomacy which has be-
come our inyeterate habit leaving it to others more
leepy interested or disposed 10 fight for ideas
he task of suggesting, entreating, caJong mediaiing
and concerning In this respect We view the debate oil
ast week as the commencent OF new era Pubic
opinion has pronounced itself deesive!y. and we sum
non all statesmen who would hold prominent place IN
The councils OF their country to mark and obey