The Wyandot pioneer. (Upper Sandusky, Ohio) 1853-1868, 1864-05-06

ments do not b long to this part OF Gu
discussion claim tina, am arguing th'
second proposition, and insinuate tba
my object is, Ito COMPEL you to giv'
SO much attention to those texts, that yot
will not have full space to affirm YOU
] point" Sir. have not adduced singl.
argument on the second qust,on, notwilh
standing you have urged me to it serera
times, no. less than twice in your las
letter. l have adduced two or three text.
/. which l shall use in my affirmative, 8 bu
simply to negative your proposition. And
that they are having a telling effect, is
witnessed BY the trouble of which you
complain, their orre - at "is compel
ling" you to give attention to them But
| have word of cpmt"l. You shall
have all the "spsce," so far as am con-
cerned, to exhaust you entire magazine
Of argument, in the maintainsnce of your
proposition. ........
You do not undertake to show how
those evil doers are made holy and hap
py who are punished with everlasting de-
struclion, especially as destruction, means
to "deprive OF ali vitality and power"
"ahhihilstion" but say "have not
defined destruction yet" That belongs
to the second proposition. l will here
say however, 1t htither ti,eans reformation
nor "sunihilation." You unjustly sc-
cuse me of dodging the question, "How
can spiritual rebellion be put down or
come To AL end, while rebels exist % Il
refer the reader to my last letter for as
specific an answer as | can give without
discussing the "secohd Question"
You ask. HAS God more ph ysicsl than
moral power. SO that lie esn damn souls
lie cannot save :" Ianswer God has pow
er--call it "physical," moral" or Judi.
cisl Just as yon Ike "damn" those who
do not repent and believe and consequent
Iy does mot save.'
In reply to my doubly-ursed argument
As to the efficiency OF redehIptive means
after death, you say, "All niet ARD sinful
under the influences which God employs,
and by your logic sll men will remain sin
Iul forever, unless you can prove that tie
moral influences which now fail will be
more successful hereafter" A remaIka
BILE mode of retorting an argument drawn
from premises which you admit,to supply
a premise which do not admit. and then
wheel in the conclusion. Erudite logic
indeed deny that call men are sinful
now under these influences, and if you
claim it; you must claim there has been
no conversions, no salvation from sin, by
the gospel. Moreover claim that all
are saved by the gospel in this life; that
ever will be saved. But again, "The
moral scheme is progressive, aud appa.
rent delays, and defeats can neither dis.
appoint or baff1s God" Now II your
doctrine that "al men are sinful" under
gospel inhuenGes," multiplying in hum
oers, and waxing worse and worse" in
moral estate, how much progress has |
oeen made in si1 thousand years Of gos
Del operation The progress is more to I
universal damnation than salvation and 4
uch delays and defeats-not apparent
'ut real portends the perpetual disap- =
'ointment and battling of Gods plan
But is it Gods "plan" that all should
e absolutely saved, or that. "he that be "
eveth shall be saved, and he that belev a
til not shall be damned ?" II the latter !
God "baffled" when incorigbls sin.
ers are damned?
You say my definition OF verbal con- :,
is inaccurste," and refer to ID
'ishop Horne. but make no quotations. !"
bishop Horne says nothing that either q
onflcts with my definition of verbal crit y
ism, ur that III the least relieves you "
-om youf absurdities. To say that sin y
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as no vital force, and then say that to !"
estroy It means to deprive il Of all vital, .
y aud power, is neither 4 verbal con- !!
addiction Of i Discrepancy. but real alb .
urdity. You make another effort to es '
ape, but it is fruilless. "In philo- :" ;.
optical sense, Evil has no self subsist
~ force but lives only by its connec- .
on with Good. as falsity lives only BY
rme real or app rent trulh". Evil and :,
ood have only relative existence i. e =
hee are attributes, or characteristics
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