The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1864-08-13
ion Bill which was passed by the rich.

ton Dill winch was passed by the rich.
Mr.. Green said that this measure would create
classes among the people, and men would be despised
because they were poor.
Mr.. Hanemo said that young men, when they
graduated from Lahainaluna, went back TO the huts
Of their fathers and were poor, but their education
was their wealth, and they were fit to serve as Rep
resentatives.
Mr.. Kuaea said that the only test. should be-Ij
the man wise. is he good and not, is he rich.
Mr.. C. II. Judd advocated a property qualification
for Representatives; but il should be low enough so
that worthy men, as school teachers, should not be
debarred, and moved to have the limits at $500
Real Estate, and $50 annual income.
Acknowledgement agreed with the Delegate from
Koolaupoko. Those who cannot earn $50 q year are
not fit for Legislators. a common plantation hand
earns S84 a year, and with his board aud lodging
over 500, and overseers at S12 per month would
earn enough to qualify them. The farms, the work
shops all over the land are all hungry for labor, and
this qualification would be an incentive. Who are
liable to corruption? To whom is 50 en- induce
ment?
Mr.. Wana. 81 want to ask the lawyer what Rep
resentative ever grabbed a, a bride of So"
Attorney General. at will not do to mention
names"
Mr.. Nahaku and Mr.. Ukeke opposed the property
qualification.
Mr.. Kauwahi advocated it as a means Of elevating
the people.
Mr.. Bishop thought the qualification too small.
Hon. 6. vi. Robertson supported the amendment,
and said that both Judge Lee and DR.. Armstrong
had both their opinions modified since the Constitu-
ton of '52 was made. and be was confident that they
DOtn WOuIu IL i've u piOENAy fNSA
fcation.
Adjourned until Monday.
Twenty-FourIh Day.
MONDAY, August 9Th, 1864.
The Convention met at IL A. NJ, His Majesty pre-
siding. Prayer by the Chaplain. Minutes accepted.
MIR. Kamalo withdrew his amendment IN favor of
Mr.. c. III. Judd's.
The Minister of Finance said that this was a priv
ilege and not a right, and every one did not have the
right Of voting away his neighbors' money. He
wOul1 like the limits II he SDOU and SOU.
Mr.. Knudsen said, if this limit was adopted, there
would be but one man. besides himself, in his district,
eligible.
MIR. d. II. Hitchcock thought that the lower limits
were the proper ones. Those men that earn $3.50 a
year cannot afford to leave their business and come,
and this limit would debar many worthy, intelligent
natives, school teachers who earn only ~ cents L day
for five days in the week.
Mr.. Green thought that the limit should not be so
high as TO discourage the natives from trying 10 reach
il. AS for Makawao il was a rich district, and this
qualification was not too high for them, but it was
tor the islands at large.
Minister of Finance said, that those who were de-
voted to intellectual pursuits. and had an excess of
brains. but were poor, should be allowed to offset this
against property.
Hon. MIR Bishop advocated having the figures at
$500 aud $3.50. II would thus be an incentive, and
Industrious, thrifty men would come as representa-
tives. We wanted just such men as cannot afford TO
come, like Kipi OF Hilo, who have concerns of their
own to attend to and protect they will lie the best
Legislators. This will prevent the natives from dis
posing of their land, which they are now anxious to
do he had turned away hundreds who applied to
him TO mortgage their lands.
DIR. Judd said, that the principle was wrong. The
pay of the Representatives had been reduced to n low
figure lest the money getting idea should be appealed
to. and now it was expressly advocated.
His Ex. r. c. Wyllie said, put the property quail
fcation at n high figure makes it a highly honorable
post ion and the best men will come. The Delegates
received 10 pay, yet u more intelligent, worthy and
respectable body of Legislators never assembled ON
these islands.
Nj. Kauwahi said, this was not a new idea, it had
been agitated in the Legislature for four years. If
the natives voted against this high limit it would be
a concession that they were unable to reach it.
There was no man, it industrious, but could reach it.
Mr.. Heleluhe said that His Majesty and the Mobiles
knew. that in his District of Puma, there was no man
worth $500 value of Real Estate. Ills Majesty had
travelled there, and had said that the best thing they
had was the road a man might own 1000 acres and
not be qualified, because it Was only worth 6 cents
an acre, as it was all rocks. Perhaps there was one
man in Puma that could come as Representative.
| His Elk c. G. Hopkins congratulated himself on
to the Convention when this most impor-
tant subject was being discussed. If men in Puma
cannot earn $3.50 with hard labor, then they had
better leave the District, and it had better be disfran-
chised. Men should go to the Legislature to enact
measures that will protect and secure their property,
not for the money they receives The limit should be
high enough so that mere borseboys and cooks should
be excluded. but they should be inspired to rise above
their condition to n higher.
DIR. Judd moved that the limits be $4,000 and
$500.
Hon. G. NJ. Robertson said, that the Constitution
of 1852 was only five years old when il was thought
a mistake had been made, and q property qualification
proposed. This was a moral qualification, because
those that have not wasted their money in drinking,
gambling and horse racing were moral. Puma could
find a Representative out OF the district. -t
The Alto ney General said, that the duty men
owed to their country should induce them to serve it.
Mr.. Bishops amendment then passed. Yeas
Messrs. Kahaleaahu. Wood, Hanemo, Meyers, Knud-
sen, G.. III. Judd, Kahananui, D.. II. Hitchcock,
Robertson and Kamalo. ~Nays-Messr koakanu,
Metcalf, Green, Heleluhe, Ukeke, kepoikai, L. e.
Hitchcock, Kuaea, &. L. Judd anu Nahaku.
The Mobiles and His Majesty voted in its favor.
DR.. Judd's amendment failed, and the Article, as
amended, passed the three Estates.
Article cd was thea read, as follows
ARTICLE 81. Every male subject of the Kingdom who shall
have paid hi. taxes who shall have attained the age of twenty
years; and shall have resided in the Kingdom for one year i'm
mediaely preceding the election, and shall be possessed Of Real
Property in this Kingdom, to the value of --- Dollars-or
of a Lease hold Property on which the rent is --D Dollars
per year--or of an income of not less than --- Dollars de-
rived from any property or some awful employment; anu SHAH
know how to read and write; and shall have resided in the Dis
trct in which he proposes to vote. at least three months proceed
ing the day OF election; and shall have caused his name to be
entered on the list of voters Of his District as may he provided
by Law, shall be entitled to one vote for The Representative or
Representatives of that District. Provided however, that no
insane or idiotic person, nor any person who shall have been
he shall have been pardoned by The King, and by the terms of
sucb pardon have been restored 10 ali the rights of a subject.
shall be allowed to vote.
Mr.. Heleldhe moved to substitute Article 18th Of
the Constitution of 1852 for it.
The Minister of Finance said, the property Quslif-
cation for voters. as well as the provision that they
must be able to read and write was to prevent lazy
and worthless vagabonds from voting. The clause
requiring Registration was TO promote the purity Of
the ballot-box.
Mr.. Bishop moved to insert $3.50, S25, and $50
in the three blanks. The privilege of voting should
be considered honorable, and those who could not
earn $50 a year should not be allowed to exercise il,
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