Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1864-04-14

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one am disposed TO recognize hat independence
s'oaa Globe February 20, 1861 page 2s5.
Mr. COX. 1 will now yield to my colleague 10 cav
whether no did not vote for that Lieutenant Gov
ernor OF Ohio after it known throughout the State
that no thus favored the independence OF this Conede
racy2
Mr.. GARFIELD answer my colleague that I did
not vote for that gentleman r any candidate on the
ticket that fall for the simple reason that was in the
army III had been IN Ohio should have voted for that
gentleman and do not mysefon any other ground
than the simple lack of being present at the time OF the
election.
Now allow me to say that there was large class of
men ON both sides OF the political questions of that day
who In the beginning Of this felt doubt whether it
was not better to let these people alone for time hoping
that reason might return them by delay There
others who said we cannot leave them aone and to
that class belonged number of distinguished gentlemen
Ia the parties on both sides That one thing But
now alter that question has been adudcated after the
great American people has determined and deter
mined on putting down the rebellion after three years of
war have passed. and when almost in the hour Of
daylight and victory, to arise and throw up the
Mr. COX Mr. Speaker, only asked the gentleman to
answer my question: not to of into definition of what
Is treason IN hs Judgment would rather take the
stltutiona definition OF treason. do think my friend
takes the Constitution his authority for he ssid
twice on this floor that he would overeap that Constu
tion When you talk of treason and in the breath
talk OF overlapping the Constitution, you the traitor
n there be such traitor in this House.
Mr.. GARFIELD. Will the gentleman tell me what ques-
ton it is that he desires shall answer
tons am satisfied with his position. 1t is enough that
have shown that be is not the to for the
pnlsion of any member for expressing sentiments in favor
oil tho recognition OF this Southern COnederacy 1t
for hm who would have voted for who 10 favor
in advance of the war; of the recognition OF the Southern
Coniederacyand who thus encouraged the rebels
coed IN their rebellion when it in its budto reflect
upon gentlemen this side of the House who have voted
against secession, against recognition and in favor of
tanning the war for the Union upon the proper policy 1t
not for him TO censure or expel INV colleague when he
i le
the Constitution.
Mr.. GARFIELD. only desire to cay that my col
league msrepresents me- presume Internationally when
n rays that have two distinct occasions declared my
readiness to oveeap the Constitution That may set
myself and him right that question will say, for
all, that hsve never uttered such sentiment What
have uttered Is this when asked If would un Ter any
circumstances, override the Constitution, said ths and
this ony-premising, believed that the Constitution
was ample enough of Itself to put down this rebellion that
It's powers were most capac0us and there need to
override ltthat such time should that the
powers OF the Constitution not sufficient to SUSTAIN
the Union if that impossible superstition should prove
tlue laughter from the Democratic side of the House.
then would say that we have right to do SOLEMN
duty under God and go beyond the Constitution to save
1 the creators of the Constitution.
| Mr.. COX. am informed by the members around me-
and think that the report of my colleagues remarks will
show IN the Globe that he put condition like that he
makes now ! ask gentlemen both sides whether my
Colleague ever quail his remarks by saying that would
be forever impossible in the future for the Constitution
90 infringed ~ making war Why make the statement
the Constitution be. forever BILE
| to dol in carrying on this war;
Mr.. GARFIELD. said so in answer to the question
OF my colleague now upon the floor. said co. secondly
IN answer to the gentleman from Illinois and put the
qiest on to him. explained 1t in the same way. The
gentleman at liberty TO look at the manuscript, which
have not yet seen aud may quote from it,
Mr cox. have only the Chronicles report of the
debate OF yesterday Perhaps it is good authority for the
members on the other side. will quote from it's 70.
port:
Mr. GARFIELD then contycvsrted his colleagues position
weapons 81 Var IF with these we should not succeed he
take means as ne woul against the savage who
OF dstiuoon and If necessary, no woula fling all
snluoDa saactions TO the Wnds rather than lose his
10 there any thing about impossible" conditions
there
Mr. GARFIELD. /" If necessary" there is the cop-
diton.
Mr. COX. No, sir, it is not there,
Mr. GARFIELD. It il thego-
Mr. COX NJ, 1T i, not theFe
Mr.. GARFIELD. appeal to the Speaker whether it
Is not upon his lips hot aud wet
Mr. COX. That ia in regard to the last sentence.
Laughter There 10 nothing about the mpossbility OF
the Constitution proving insufficient to put down the
belon, aud in which alone he would overlesp It,
overleap an impossiblity! would like to the per-
formance. e
tne conhscaton bill said ne would under certain circum
st nces ogerIeap the Constitution. What did he mean
then by that In that debate his language precisely
this;
al would break the Constr at ALL unless it she aid
become necessary to overlap the barriers the Gov
eminent and the Union "
Nothing about the impossibily Of eyes breaking the
Constitution, not word OK syllable for he conem aes
it's breach for certain purposes My coleap cannot es
cape IRON the dilemma in which BE- "a placed And We,
ne Gnaei takes TO make polite capital out of the speech
" WY eo'essoe Hon secoud district after such d.cla-
ps - .e does not, gentlemen on that side do. They
iearn, subscribing for that speech by hundreds and
thousands to distribute it for partisan purposes and yet
they have advocated the very hereses upon which they
ground the present accusation and give them circulation
by sending out the speech OF my colleague.
want 1t understood that the Republican members who
have favored recognition and favored the who favor
ed IT, are striving TO eIpel member for the same
license OF speech v ch they have nduged that at home
they have favored Tor high Offices public character who
took ground favor Of recognising the rebel if it should
MAINTAIN itself for year or two" might well ask my
colleague, in view OF his position whether he did not know
that those the sentiments OF Gov Stanton when he
would have voted for him if he had been at home To
policy of dssovng the Union if the rebellion could sustain
itself for year twoi Then ask him, how much bet
Ter is he than the member whom he seeks to expe7
Wherein does he differ from that member upon this sub
ject Of recognising lawlessuessf
More than that; the gentemans party in Ohio favored
Benjamin stanton for Lieutenant Governor knowing his
sentiments to be similar to those attributed to my col
league. More than that; they elected Senator
from Ohio who had uttered the sentiments the
sentiments of that party He is the personal and political
friend Of my colleague. j mean Senator WADE. will
send his remarks to the Clerks desk to b. read that we
may know WIN in favor Of dissolution and recognition
The CLERK read as follows from the Congressional
Globe Of the third Session Of the Thiryfourth Congress-
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