The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1864-08-20
HO NOLUIU, HAWAIIAN ISLANDS, AUGUST

10 be put without debate. The second Knmchamc
had the tabus taken Of the third had hs troops dis
| banded. the fifth asks for property quali6ct-
Mr. Ukeke Il will not do to take this righ, away
now. The nation ~ weak yet; II may do ten years
hence when II is strong like England
Mr.. ncpokai said, il clear TO him that
/ this Article would bo a schoolmasrer. leading this
nation rc-pcctability and wealth.
His EH &. q Hopkins said. in his population Of
GOoOO the poor not noticeable; IN England the
population 80. .OO0. 900 and poor houses
! Qurcd. The testimony o! Mr. Wnna confirmed His
Nnjcsty's statement that the influence ia the
hands OF u few and remedy this the qualification
should be so high M To exclude those who valued
their suirages little 10 be turned by the single
word OF "A luna
His Ex r. c. wyllie wished TO ask Mr. wana IT,
by that wealthy man, he meant him (AIr. Wyllie) 4!
Mr.. Wana 4" DO -
Mr.. Wyllie Who the overseer that marshalled
the people in the described
Mr.. Wanna ' Your over-eer, you know him; but
! stated this simply illustration, and think
should not be cross questioned here about it
Mr.. Wyllir said, he utterly repudinted this
cse of influence at the polls it entirely con-
trary 30 his instructions to his He had
ordered them not to interfere in any election, but
simply 10 GdriSc or recommend such men cand-
dates - feared God and honored the King He
had distributed printed circular among the people
of his district encouraging the Industrious otering
lands to them. and discountcnancing those who
immoral, vicious and lazy. This the Government
sought to do by this Article. He would not allow
any agent OF his do such of Tyranny as To
force people as he ordered, and ne would be
prompt in investigating, and if necessary in chastis-
ing the offender. The spontaneous outburst OF 10y
atty md affection displayed in the Valley of Hanaei
when the King landed there recently, proof
that the King was in danger from rich men.
Hon c. X Bishop said, that as rule, the posses
sion OF property the result of honest labor and
therefore he preferred TO ill the blanks with some
rather than put it proposed by the Delegate
from Wamee. The limits proposed by him would
really exclude but very few. He commented on the
state of things in parts of the country where
there were plenty OF men and yet they did work.
The climate Of these islands does not stimulate
eroD. and therefore stmulant should be de.
yised
nducement lead the nation their condition.
TO lead them onward and inward This was a1us mia aim
and if he thought this amendment would le
because ne did think
had lived with the had character and
%e ama Ms b % er s D
in his district who owned land the result of their labor
be allowed 10 ve if m. land was worth s15o As T G 1hd
to exclude loars he was in favor Of Mr. Knudsen amend
1t TO be expected and perfectly that
helping them every way, influence
them & feel 'ha, the NATIVES dere to please @ me- but
threats Eectioneerng is in all lands and property
Hon g. W. Robertson lob said Mr. Knudsens amendment
would exclude men o property and leisure from voting lie
men will wish to what they their friends enjoying,
Knudsen thought al sat work,
should be called IOars whether they be rich money and
lands not and should
Mr.. Green said there industrious his district
voting enjoy also the poor and go
rant In New York they preferred to endure all the peri of
by whskey their elections rather
no With them does not do his duty xas NO ham
if His Ex Mr. wyle liked by his people and they voted
Mr. -Hanemo said many times
against him Now will be very different;
the men must have money IL they win vote and the poor blind
q ont TO he \ Ills
The Attorn~y General said seemed he agreed
did the Ministry stand firmly their position ques-
Because M they were convinced that was for the public
district only proved that there 400
this in the richest valley
work for himself build fence about his land plant in it,
then worth $50 Plant and will he richly reward
ed even Puma they could make cOcoanu oil AMI grow sweet
dollars he tarned in Certainly months.
lie hoped the day would when all the Chiefs like
King had in their who did receive regular
wages. This amendment endeavore the evils
Dir rer @ arSf out II nnysla snrage sz @ 300 5ne 'e lne
Chnamen their backs could the polls and down
Hawaii up independent
class of Hawaiian farmers in these islands who should employ
said, corruption
City. emgrants
nonarches Europe cane and
this right & OF o9m Fy % a thought # . was gn5 " sv @ their heir
IL years. education in the of this right Influence in cleo
rTote an eieconeerng letter to US Planters on Maui
Attorney General = Produce it, Dr. J uad 1t is in my
DIR. Judi. "Then, cannot produce t.'
Attorney General. Any Delegates liberty
read aud judge himself il it letter.
DR.. Judd. This universal suffrage interests the people in the
it eilcaes the people There numbers Of
lives who work han in unproduCve labor and the
md OF the behind hand with
perhaps 500 200 in dent Are they 60 b. excluded from
oting? II thought this qualification would
he people would 10 charge the
being lazy they 1t Is only 20 since they
inl-r iruda these islands. Then there "A
raising horses and cattle aud the Islands
hem Now the fashion changing. ami he people
devoted agriculture, a lazy, a
sovereign that acknowledges their manhood will be
riOus.
Mr. c II. Judd asked the Attorney General he thought
his proposed qualification would keep Cinnamon
inmig grants) from voting he natives.
Attorney General. II il SIS per year, wished
ind the Cinnamon received SO per month, they woud be
luied.
amendment Of put to the Delegates
md carried by "i IL 10 3 The Nobics
% O ?.
Mr. Bishops amendment then put Delegates and
ost by 4 vote of To l3.
MIR Nahaku's amendment lost In the Delegates
" TO 10
Majesty owing Of the hour he
bought advisable has the proposed
Convention then, but wouli tomnrrow morn ng
The Hon &. X Bishop then moved the following
trike third and substitute these words
hat he has regular lawful employment by he earns
bis living
Convention adJou' ned.
For Saturdays proceedings, thira page.
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