The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1864-03-02

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| printing for this House. such voumnons return o
that arisen between h country and the United
harlyd think or pressing molten OF such character
And there Is no advantage In IT, fthere may % some
commission on these claims, tho American government
would probably take the evidence which had been laid
before Parliament as complete win respect 70 them
They would say "There Is your case. IL has been laid
before Foreign Once hae boon presented 70 Pariia
ment and printed ard u Ia impossible 10 90 beyond IT,
IT, therefore these were printed and commission
on claims hereafter appointed, persona who had
claims and who were prepared TO produce further
support OF them, might be precluded from the
fun beDeat Of that evidence cannot therefore, think
that there would be any advantage producing this
luminous mass Of papers The noble earl seemed TO think
that our commerce Was nearly extinct. (rbe Earl OF
Csrnarvon disseuted took down the noble earl's
words. and he certainly said that on the
Now TO what do theas words apply Is knoscm st is
trcds OF blockade running has bes oa profitable trade
mar gsa Torture: haes ben sads BY many prisons n car
Tynq on and that Nassau aud other places have
swarmed with vessels which had previously been
seea IN those ports That great number Ct vessels have
been stopped by the American cruisers readily admit
The noble earl says that the judges Of the Prize Courts in
the United States have given decisions Of which
not based upon principles Of international law. Now,
say here what have frequently had occasion To gay be-
FORE that bend the fsst i,sasos 10 aeoet tAAs
DECISIONS: and think the complaints which have been
made very often arise, and naturally Arise from igno
Of the principles Or nternatouai Law laid down
by Lord Sowe and other great ursts this country
from this country Nassau should be captured on
voyake while upoa the high aad should be sent fer
sdsualcai'oa before an Asrcas rr..e Court Evideasy
the persons who make that complaint think quite sum
Gent IL Ms nomiaai deanatipw Was Nassau, and not
take into consideration tho cirovmsancs chat Nassau
wss not the ultimate desnaton but was merely meant
that the vessel should touch at Nassau and then Without
transportmont carry nor cargo into the hockaded port
that vessel according 70 tho principles ad donb Lesd
Stowel would be liable TO capture. But is natural
that this should be forgotten when for SO many years
sss % o s anna
ployed their capital In this manner are severe suffer
ers With regard to the Saxon. we were advised that
fakn IN INIT
The noble earl says that the law officers Of the
must have been completely wrong because Il was quite
island OF Angra Pequena be British possession Now
do no: think that should be guided by such deca
Africa was taken by one OF our cruisers near an
island Il would not be sufficient to prevent the capture
9y .ne lnat inc Governor OF the negnnorng
island 70 belong 70 France Portugal. We should say
at once-"Have the French and Portuguese gov.
ernmenss confirmed that declaration and II they had
not we should hesitate TO acknowledge that the
island belonged to either country Tho argument which
we should use ourselves ought TO accept from
other nation: and acting, therefore, on the opinion
OF the law officers OF the crown did not assert that
sas vssse, ny, hao uesG Mna Tas
received from the Alabama and the Tuscaloosa part OF
the spoil which they had taken from American vessels.
The noble earl refers TO what appears 70 u.s. the nfor
nation have received be accurate to be the
and barbarous murder Of the mate of tho Saxon. All
cused Of that crime should be tried and should be brought
as soon possible before tribunal 10 which the charge
could De farly examined nto That, accordingly t0 the
demand which We made. The noble earl says IL no
salts action that the captain OF tho Vanderbilt expressed
his regret but do moi knoo Whas more he could do He
did not order that the mate OF the Saxon should DO killed
He had no concern Ia the MURDER but when he heard OF
the occurrence he expressed his regret He could not
Immediately order trial, and have the man convicted
The Earl OF CARxARvoS- the captain order the man
under der, ssrss,i (Hss, hear NM, ,,,,, -
Information. Opposition cheers) But certainly do
no. think Z an injury that .As captain expressed bis re-
papers that the man was Afterwards put under arrest
but that only newspaper report With regard to the
to ALABAMA Tns law officers gave 4 as their opason
that she should have been detained and orders sent
out in conformity with that opinion. She has nov
been detained, and II will be for the noble carl 10 show
that ths law officers were wrong in that opinion,
and that upon grounds OF public law known TO him.
aDohse courses now oome 70 the noble sars
statemsns with regard to the Alabama, and cannot
me TO dear up msconcsption which, 1t has affected
his mind also have affected others in the same way
Ny lords. her Majestys government hare a.oaw main
fained tAsi they scdy responsible for the hosii
ties against Ae merchant ships Of the Uted States commit
ted BY the alabama. Hear, hearl We Adus manufactured
that position from the bQi1ng tos shall maintain TO the
end The noble earl seems 70 suppose that In letter Of
mine OF the Goth OF October admitted that these CUES
lions would afterwards be referred to Q commission
Ny lords admitted nothing OF the kind (Elear, hear(
stated them have already stated that her Maestys
bama The United States Miaister may hare IN
kind Of cornsssion or arbitration; bNt her Md5esfy1
70 a commission o. or5irdtion (Iear, hear.) Accord.
ing all the principles OF international law her Macs
70 20 way Ss. S.sa as
OF Q commission, but We have always thought that
commission would be Of because the United States
Alabama should be referred 70 the commission, and
quite impossible that could consent 70 chat Therefore
stances would Be proper course~ws have never pro.
posed commission TO consider the respective claims
q 70
TO-, because We knew that y would 90 proposed %
include the CASE Of tho Alabama, which We were de-
therefore, the government may we'll await the time
when calm consideration Of the principles involved
aware that for long time there has been great excite.
mont In America upon the subject Of the that she
has been reused TO anger against this country the
doings OF the Alabama say that when the United 6tates
a % 90 no. sx 70 m seh aS so%s
when the United States government considering all the
presidents laid down by their judges as well az By
British Judges, WIN be satisfied that they have no claim
against this country account OF the Alabama. Ny
expression not intended to convey tho notion that
the British government would change their minds but
that the United States government would change theirs
tho excitement OF the moment had passed away,
therefore ! 70 on TO say:-
The British government must decline TO be responsible
for the acts OF parties who at out seeming merchant
ship send her to port or TO waters FAR from the uris
dction OF British courts and there commission equip and
mau her q vessel OF war.
And further ray that II "an admitted principle
sh,pbuildng this country would be seriously embar
rsssed.n The noble earl 10 manner unaccouniabc 10
msfor IL never from tho time wrote that letter until
occurred that such meaning could be applied
70 IT, and that It could be understood as admitting IN
ture examination Of this casethe noble earl says Ia
desirable that these cases should not be kept Open but
that they should be settled Of once quite agree with
him n there any smcable way which they can De
settled. The American government says, 1--WE have
clear and undorbed for PREPARATION on account OF
the Alabama We say, 1--WE have clear. aud undoubt
cd refusing Ssparaticn In the case OF tho Ala
bama" Who " 70 be the arbitrator unless we resort 70
that method OF arbitration which the noble earl thinks
agree to' way this question be settled unless
the United States should push 10 the verge OF war for
the purpose 0. getting this question settled The United
states government say. eve have good Gaze bus Ne
are ready keep u Ia sbeyanco and 10 continue %
terms Of amity apd friendly relations with Great Britsn
II Great Britain viii consent 20 do So" Am 70 say,
eve win agree 10 anything Of the sort Why do yeu
not make war upon usf Why not push yoar claims %
the extremtyfn That is the case OF the noble
earl He sys Is desirable 10 have these questions SET
tied. and not 70 have them hanging ever Us Il Ia de-
sirabe indeed but how IA 20 be done while the posi-
tops OF the two countries entirely opposedf have
had the good fortune IN some cases. 20 put On end 70
had horn M