The Union and journal. [volume] (Biddeford, Me.) 1858-1882, 1864-09-23
BIDDEFoRD, ME-, FRIDAY MORNING,

differ about measures and candidates, but are
united in the determination to sustain the
Union. Whoever is elected in November,
he must be committed to vigorous prosecu-
ton of the war; i.
Mr.. Davis still looked incrcdulous. 70.
marked .-... -
1T is SO, cir. Whoever tells you other
wise deceives you. think I know north
ern sentiments, and ! assure YOU IL is 80.
You know we have system of lyceum-lcc-
turing in our large towns. AT the close OF
these lectures it is the custom Of the people
to come upon the platform and talk with the
lecturer. This gives him an excellent oppor-
tunity of learning public sentiment. Last
winter lcctured before nearly a hundred Of
such associations all over the North-from
Dubuque to Bangor -and l took pains to as
certain the feeling of the people. found
unanimous determination to crush tho re-
bellion and save the Union at every sacrifice.
The majority are in favor Of Mr.. Lincoln,
and nearly all of those opposed to him are
opposed to him because they think he does
not fight you with enough vigor. The radi.
cal Republicans, who go for slave suffrage
and thorough coniscation are those who will
defeat him. if he is to be defeated before the
people, tho House will elect worse mani
mean worse for you. 1t is more radical than
he is-you can see that from Mr.. Ashley's
Reconstruction bill-and the people are more
radical than the House. Mr.. Lincoln, /
know, is about to call out five hundred thou
sand more men, and can't SEQ how you can
rcsst much longer; but il you do you will
only deepen the radical feeling OF the nort!
ern people They will now give you fair.
honorable, generous terms but lot them
suler much more, let there be dead man in
every house, as there is now in every village,
they will give you no terms-thcy will insist
on hanging every rebel south Oh, Par.
don my terms. mean no offence
You give no offence he replied, smiling
pleasantly. Il wouldn't have you pick your
words This is u frank, free talk, and like
you the better for saying what think. Go
on
Il was merely going to say that, let the
northern people once really ieel the war-
they do not leel it yet-and they will insist
on hanging every one Of your leaders.
DIsuSIoN DEMANDED.
well, admitting all you say. can't sac
how it effects our position. There are some
things worse than hanging or determination.
We reckon giving up our right OF ssli.gov-
ernment one Of those things
by seli.government you mean disunion-
southern independence?
Yes"
And slavery, you say, is no longer an elc-
ment in the contest
mo, it IL not, it never was an essential cl-
ement. II was only a means OF bringing
other conflicting elements to An earlier cul-
minatIon. 1t fired the musket which was
already capped and loaded. There arc es-
senti,,l differences between the North and
the South that will, however this war may
end, make them two nations
You ask IN" to say what think. Will
you allow mo to say that know tho South
pretty well, and never observed thosc differ
cnces?'
Then you have not used your eyes. My
sight is poorer thaa yours, but have seen
them for years. .... , a.
The laugh was upon me, and Mr.. Bcnja-
min enjoyed it. nj '.'
We'll, sir, be that as it may, if | under.
stand you, the dispute between your govern
nent ard ours is narrowed down to this I:
Union or disunion.'
Yes; or to put it in other words {: indie
pendencc or subjusation.'
'rhen the two governments are irreconcil.
ably apart. They have no alternative but to
fight il out. But 1t is not 80 with the peo-
pie. They arc tired Of fighting and want
peace and us they bear all the burden and
suffering OF the war, is it not right they
should have it on such terms as they like ?
Il don't understand you. BE little more
exulicit.'
Mr.. DAVIS REFUSES To SUBMIT TIE QUESTION TO
THE PEOPLE.
well, suppose thetwo governments should
agree to something like this To so to tho
people with two propositions say, peace,
with disuniou and southern independence, Us
your proposition-and-peace, with union,
emancipation, no con6scation, and universal
amnesty, US ours. Let the citizens OF all the
United States (as they existed before the
war; vote Yes or No on these two propo-
sitions, at u special election within sixty
days, II u majority votes disunion, our gov
ern,nens To be bound by it, and to lot you 60
in peace. Ifa majority votes Union, yours
to be bound by it, and to stay in peace.
The two governments can contract in this
way. and the people. though constitutionally
unable to decide on peace or war. can elect
which of the two propositions shall gov.
ern their rulers. Let Lee and Grant. mean
while, agree to an armistice. This would