Marshall County Republican. (Plymouth, Ind.) 1856-1878, 1864-10-27

prisoners as partof the programme. He didn't
cay how he got it.
D. Was il really from Mr. Vallandigham2
a. So Piper said
o. Who did Won say was to perform that
part Of the programme at Johnson's Island?
A Captain Hines was TO have that part of
the duty-releasing the prisoners on Johrson's
Island.
o. Who Is Captain Hines2
A He is an officer of the rebel army who
was captured with Morgan, and imprisoned
with him, and escaped with him. He is now
on valIandigham's staff. and is in Canada.
O. Who informed you of that programmed
A. Piper told me of this, at Lewisville, in
DR.. Kalfas's Office, about the 10th of July.
Dodd also told Judge Bullitt that he would get
together what men he could, and undertake the
release of the prisoners st this place, and if he
did not succeed he would make his escape.
The counsel for the accused objected. That
where witness in answering question gives
an answer to a matter not asked for, and gives
hearsay also, though it is from members or the
Order, il is not competent unless he was pres
emit. But what they say any member has said,
is net competent and the witness can not
make it evidence by bringing it in when not
called for. He asked that the last statement be
stricken from the record
The Judge Advocate replied that no testi-
mony could be stricken from the record. At
tue maj GtnOeratlOn tue court WOuio deter
mine what is evidence and its reliability.
The counsel for the accused assented to this
view and withdrew the objection
O. Do you know of your own knowledge,
that the American Knights and the Knights of
the Golden Circle are the same Order?
a. ] know it only from conversation with
members of the Order of Sons of Liberty.
Q. You may state what information you had
OF 1t from Dodd and those leagued with him.
A. My information was from DIR. Kaltus,
Harrison, Bowles, Piper and | think other
members of the Order-that they were the same
Order.
Q. What two Orders do you mean2
A. The Order of American Knights and
Order OF Sons of Liberty. The Knights of the
Golden Circle | know nothing of, except that
Harrison told me the Order of the Sons of Lib
erty had had four different names
o. AS you have testified TO the ritual and
oaths, ask you how you reconcile their printed
obligation TO obey the constitution with the
statement you have made that they are sworn
to obey implicitly the orders of their Com
msnders?
A They are sworn to obey the orders of
their commanders, whatever they may be, ire
spective of the orders or laws of the Govern
uent.
Q. Is this fundamental principle laid down
for the Government of the Order in its ritual.
A. 1t is in the military part of the Order.
"
ircnlcate observance of the Constitution as e
riiusl2
A. They do the observance of the Constitu-
ton as they understand it,
q What Constitution do you refer to?
X The Constitution of the United States.
Q. Do they not in their meetings inculcate
following put the whole Constitution of the
Order?
l.. They do, with the military addition.
They connect the two together in their meet
ines.
O. Do you know how the names of the pris-
oners OF Tennessee and other cavalry regiments
came TO be in this book, entitled "Roll of Pris-
orers?"
A do net. Harrison opened this book and
showed me the list of names of members of the
Order here but not the other names. / did not
open the book when saw proper, bat he open
ed il, and showed me this list of names and the
other list of names of members of the Order just
preceding, which are crossed out
The counsel for the accused objected to the
Introduction Of the whole book as evidence
The Judge Advocate replied, that the book as
a whole had been introduced as evidence; it is
before the Court, and they are to determine for
themselves what if any is the relatisn of the
first list to the Order Ibid not call the attention
OF the witness to the list of prisoners and have
found nothing in relation to them. called his
attention to the list of members The Court is
not, however, precluded from receiving the
whole book as evidence.
The objection was withdrawn by the Counsel
for the accused.
@. Where did you get this book, the "Roll
of Prisoners"
A. | saw it in Court.
@. Where did you see il the first time?
A. | saw it Harrison's Office.
Q. You don't know, then, who brought it
here?
A. suppose it was brought by the Judge
Advocate.
lClose of cross-examination.l