The Wyandot pioneer. (Upper Sandusky, Ohio) 1853-1868, 1864-04-29


his plan, then he does not, and cannot,
govein the world You answer admits
the promise, but denies the conclusion
allows that God cannot guide and direct
moral agency so as to secure bis ends,
but affirms that God can put men under
laws and so govern the world But Sir
has God any ullelior ends to reach by
the government he administers And
can those his Interior ends be reached
without securing in and by men, the con-
diions on which the ends must hinge?
But you suggest that my argument
proves one or two things. a. That
God has not, or does not govern the world,
or e. that all sin must be right, and all
sinners execute the divine plan. Not at
all. Suppose Gods plan is not to neces-
state, nor prevent sin, but to make man a
moral being capable of sin, and capable
of virtue and holiness.
Suppose evil is foreseen. checks and
restraints provided for it, and means by
which 1t shall be out grot%n and overcome
and all men brought into volutary and
blessed hormony with his Gods law and
will In that view, evil is evil, mans
freedom left untouched, and the Creators
holest ends reached without failure or
defeat. .." i.a'-a'a, veg. '1. 51+ NN
(5) The devil, by your theory las se-
cured the positive sinfulness of all men,
without any violation of freedom. If God
cannot secure the holiness of all, without
destroying moral freedom, your devil has
more moral power than your God
(6.) My argument concerning Christ
you grossly mstatc. The question is
Can God secure holiness in moral agents
without any violation Of the freedom they
possess. Christ was moral agent. But
in Christ, God accomplished his will. II
follows that God can secure his ends in
moral beings without any violation Of
moral freedom. ltsa aaiia3eto3 a,'i
(7.) The case Of Saul is another proof.
"Saul repented and believed the Gospel
therefore every body will !" Let.me put
my argument by the side of that sentence
and our readers shall judge between us.
"God secured the purpose of his heart in
the conversion of Saul, without any vic.
lation Of his freedom And If that re-
suit has been reached in the case of one
moral agent, it can be reached in ALL
Will you deny or admit. For these are
tcst-cases to settle principles, and yoti
are bound to meet the argument or weld
the point. .~ ar --,.-r
Your brief and hasty glance at the inn
portant texts adduced will receive at.
tention in due time.
TX. In further proof that the saliva:
tion Of all men is possible with God.
cite mark 10, 81. "For with God all
things are ,possible.'' That is, God is able
to compass ais own ends, or his power
is edualtto his will. Let me, then put the
argument in this form. /. The ends
God seeks, are possible with God. 2. II
God seeks the ultimate holiness and hap:
pness of all men, then 3. The ultimats
holiness and happiness of all men must
be a possibility with God ! o
I have devoted this letter; from the
Importance Of the subject to one GENERAL
point. Expecting to be from home When
your next is received. l shall prepate a
letter to follow yours with affirmative
proofs, reserving my rejoinder to such
structures as you may make upoh this at a
subsequent time.
Respectfully Yo,irs.
H. R. NYE. -