The New York herald., 1864-12-21

bees proved In the last trial smith Brothsrs in Bsos
ms was the essss q your beng Port Lafsyssts
the clerk q Smith Brothers was hire1 70 svesr siss
against you A. rbas the clerk bsibsA. O. For what
there any onsrss made for .hsh w x..
we're sont thercf A. n was alleged that attempted
bribe him. q. clerk In the government Oalcsf A. Yes.
STR y. Were you sentenced to Fort .Iaay ettsS A. 1
Don't sns. whether was sentence vas suspected Of
you arresled2 A. was arrested 10 washrgton. Q. And
sent 70 Fort Iafaysstsf A. was certainly; that
Q. How hong did you remain in Fort LafayetteS A.
nsls A. had ui,i Q. whsrsf A At Phnadelphia
court martial. q. DO you know wbs. the charge made
against you st that court martial vast mat had at
Q vas there nothing about mixing lead wAb liDi A.
NO sir you have got another man mixed up With mo.
aiiSsughssr! aiSsl g Perhaps you osn !sli who the
ho Ia friend Of yours mine. Q. Who is the other
man mixed up with your A. don't know what man: II
aeotiog you upon any Contract respecting tni A. No,
SIR there 0svsr anything Of the Kind nobody has
srpmsn. the charge bribns this clerk ard he was
paid 500 for proved In the last trial Of smith Broth
you been dongi A. AZ ny business. at my store, iii
Liberty street, machinery depot, whore have always
brought . witness in this case A. No, cir; don't
know anything about Il. Q. Have not you interviews
on ss % Yss
about this case, the nrst knew Of It. O. Did you
teer TO come berss AL was sabponasd regularly N have
Of your being witness hsrss A. That is an q Are an
milling machines Of the Same sizes A. No. SIR Q. How
III that general Q. There other sizes, are
there nots A. Each man makes different sizes from
% - ss no sw0 men make the sam: ss nsy max. them
would BE- test At ali OF the Price OF milling machnes
made By another machinisu A. think 50. Q.
IN nj aiz Thov wnulA ha NJ
they are made about the same size; each
half an uoh that would Be disrens size bu. Il would
amount TO the Same thing. Do all machinsts ask the
Of milling machines vary very much 4. Yes, srs Q.
From $500 70 81 ooof a. No. sir What is the high
s27s. O. what is the highest you ever boar heard S> A.
don't Know; don't remember other folks prices O.
they are higher than yours so~s'imess A. Less than
other people do not charge 81, l,oco' A. don't know
but bu. they do e Then, unless you have your
you cannot undertake to say what was their cost
A. No, do not pretend to-only Ear sold them
s50S, which $780, three loss below In the inven
tory you ud two milling machine: charged $3.50 How
sold $780, nssaaof the two pat down a. .sS9ss 4
could not tell the difference. O. Then why did you tell
svS sSss
more than CHARGED Q. DON'T below that there
ere two charged s6Sof A. Yes 9. !By the court)-Ars
are % mixed up II would be imrossbie for any 70
tell q. DO You mean TO say that you can tell which OF
apiece. Q. Is that all you know about U A That is
enough TO know AZ got my pay for them. @ Did you
furnished the main shaing that gave you O. In your
judgment Is a machinst, did you furnish tenth OF
sims that furnished ALL don't know anything to the
contrary O. Do you believe that you furnished all
nS M ,S. sna. was II that sn 4 think
nisned for six hundred and ortysx dollars oil that V
hsre charged sixteen hundred and eighty doiarss
A. That would be very d.nicut for me to sscertain
O You have updertakeo 70 say that what is charged
sixteen hundred and eighty dollars ought to be charged
six. hundred and forty doarss A. don't say It ought
TO be anything OF the kind; put. those items
oppostss Q. win you toll the Jury you know that
not worth, instead OF 81, $50. s2.o0os A. would
nos have gwen. aud Il couad not have been sold for
S046 20 ~ that time. all that Nas IN tho building in
y" "SIn oo b.Ds no oss int
hands were enough for gun fsstoryS A. Yes, sir. az
Ter was started O. You have already said Yen never
have been engaged in making Runsf Pho szmo kinds
Of tools are used IN making gums - In other work
iron Q How are ycc sure that does not require
thing. from .hs tool. in s' %.eh.s .'' .boo %'''H. A.
s.rs"s .b.es S:y % DO ,; no. n:ss rsssr. IL
bit more labor. attention or skR A. Nc. sir Q. whca
sas 1I Il 9p %sas
sno same sAng t.ps, thinss
that tools could BE- transferred 70 tins factory snd
used without asratios' A. No. sir; they the
the tools 10 gun shop are attached 70 ne mschinssy
A. They attached In the way some sockets are
ss, e; S" q:
kind Of hole IN the iron; the drilling part the sas;
i e s' osss he
July 1853 vas tosre sos general increase Of values
there wss slight ucrssss n stock, but very slight a.
There y very slight incrsass nowi a Thsrs very
s :so. az s
but did not aGscs the shops that bad . year.
stock @ on So hand hand !. wen. up very largely jse
Ass the Old ssscs W.: oa r"ss vsss s .
.: e. y
thsee two periodas H. There not machinery. to
crssse2n the iron businsss bot very slight You say
the machinery and tools in This inventory worth
my opinion they could not have been sold Tor more than
that Q. For other purposesf A. Foe any purpose. O.
For making n. S;Isns A. SIR e Do you apo.
larry about that. Q Don't you think IL Ia . very POOR
armi A. ! think some OF them very poor; would
not give two cents for that turned OF, from
what have heard OF then. O DO you say that
this machinery worth more working carbines
more Q. How much more Is u worth for the Gardner
A. don't think II worth than S33 COO for the
Of no when you sell out Il tines. too, ere scat,
tered they would be OF sort OF anywhere else O.
sprDsS.d nust.. 70 Aus Or a mrns n yoa ,ns
make i for any company a. agreed TO make i and
had contract with the Nor wich Arms Company, Thick
for 81 0O0; went sud partly completed that;
two sets, one for mysc and that cost made 81, 900
Redirect examination BY Nr. Pierrspcut-Q. suppoee
this maehinefy IN the armory had bssn bum ~; and
you bad been called upon under oath to Il = Z u TO
mcst the insurance upon u, what would you ssd IL
theu worthf A. with the knowledge had of II,
wosld NOT be beyond &sS 900. O. What difference
between tools for the guss and mchrsry the guns,
A. The machinery for the auss Va engine isthes,
piansrs, milling machines. drills, &c.; the tools
taps reamsn, drills 90 70 In the drilling
machines Q. These tools used for this psrculsr gun
would Be useful for other purposes without changer
No, STR the drills would be useful; bat most of the
tools would be good for nothing for Other purposes O.
Ebe machinery wouidf A. Yes, sir @. The machinery
sdapted 70, other work, toof A. One kind well a.
neutrality-suspicious. and mlers--but not mssy wanted
for other shops Y. fhs machinery, then, Is saeabis
thingf A. Yes, sir, very. U What diA you mean IN
saying. the nation, that OF guns
in that factory were good for noshngf A. did
thatfrom any personal knovsdge, only from heersayI