New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1864-08-09

/ O. What Ia tAo 5.aie o! iAuan"f a. "O0u' "'"e''
o. MA, An tue State Of Ohioi A. About eighty
soy s,,,ys or MrnBrRs arvYy rY wrIrrss.
| o. DO r,r now rccos,et nny .iauies OF menbers
OMITTED " yoa yostrc,y Al the Nat save" .! you ~
q STATE them
rnoArNEyT POLITICAL MIN oEsEliLLY ADMITTED
rkrvATzLr AND sew EHOlfE TO DCr PEW a.
/ Ilfg Order lItEIP.
q. WHAT ohef PROMINENT political men belong 10 sal
o.,.cr sLo:c hiacs lave not tcoB .is-ni \. Know
OF oc Ini olar OF uen hove been ada ltted private
w. aud taefe aIabut two mnbris oI s!id order
l who do kLoS them.
THE nrsoCEI nJLrg.TBs TO TIE sUrEfhB Council.
O. Who u ssii order piescntcd he hrund Conteil
= ihe Slets o. Ms,our a: the Snpeiic Council hed IN
IIu., of ~, Lou- ard Jefferson Jonrs " North Ais.
souFi. aud t.rce others whose names do not know.
u Wio - slld oluer ai,llcg TIE special conference
loa a. VSlthdgL Loei IN tAna1" Liz as spring
A Charlts l.. Hunt
RrD L rAr-oARKlER EywcoMEn' GAVE Eyows TO
wITyLss As A MEMBER or tn ORDER.
I q You have spp-eb Of your kgDwedgc i man by
/ the asnc " Newcomer. alias ThlYnson. WHO Was
earlier ON Rebel unil TO this ciiy-lid he become
keown to you as an officer III tho Rebel sorSicei "A.
q. Did lie become known 10 you ns O member Of tho
! orirri A. Yea Sir.
GLggpAL UgIEIsTAvDnSG or TIE MEMBERS ABOUT
t. vALLAsuIdaAAS APPsARASCE ar cHIcA.o TO
b. MADE TIL. OCCASION 10 Gssisr TIE ACTION
| OF iuE Gov ElshkNI.
Q. You have stated that thsre general eIpec.
ta;,on that AZ attempt would be made 10 arrest Naan-
cighan hs reaching ilcago th- lth Of July aid
~ prevent him from making sDeooh there. Was the
Government {, bo rsi,te IN the eior, LT The members
Of tie order there assemblies A. ihoFc eas general
undcis cling among Tho members OF The order that in
c,sc Va!audg hsul should return within tho Union
lines and an eiJrt made ty tie Government to
him snch effort was 10 be resisted by the
~ tied action OF the order.
TIE KILLING or A NExBER WHO DIsciosES .ASY
BgcRils on THE oBDGR nLD 10 III TILE Duty
Or EACH MEMBrR
o. Is IL The general conviction and belief Of the
members If the order that TIE penalty announced In
the oi,hs which they take viii he ,rlnly executed
any member violating IL, A. That Is the general
belief.
o. Ia It considered To DO the daty u each member to
execute this genahy upon tie yOaioT %! The oGh or Is
there some particular isison Of said Order. or officer
4. II Is considered tie duty Of ench meabcr
q. Tie oata announces shtmefu, death Il there
By ia, meant any pa'iouar form Of dea'h' A. None
@ II being tac general understanding Of each mcrr.
Der 81 the Order thnt II l. tho duty ~ each member
n e 70 o %u u be- aSe by
AMI ppblcy. and by force. secretly and ~ seati
A. riere wns no particular mode or manicr under.
stood BY the mcmbers; 1t was 10 be done ut any tine
and Of nil hrzanis.
z. Hus there any Of tho Kind here or elsewhere
come within yonr kuowle.lgc' A. There has not .
Y. Do you know Of any instance IA which n member
supposed to have violated his Obligation has been
searched isr or follow cd io tie pnrse II irfctin tho
OATH OF TIKI ORDER REGARDED As PARAMOUNT IN
ITS OBLIGATION To THAT rAKrY ~ 4 COURT. 4
q. Wnnt 10 te general vie entertained BY members
~ to the extent Of the binding obligation ~ TIE oaths
they teee ~ members Arc such oatbs reg irdod
paramount in their obligations then o tHose taken
upon the wtacss stand before u civil miitary tribu
nsi A. The general view nmOng them Ia mat the oaths
they take members are Paramount IA their obg alton
any h.ch they may be- called upon 10 take whether
1t be IN oourts Of justice. before mitay tribunals in
~ other proceedings M
D. With the knowledge you have thea Of tho char.
aefcr Of the order. how would you regard II placed ~
Juror in the Jury box trial for mu,er the Testimony
OF witness WHO a member Of tie order il tLc pris
nrrnigRed wes also known t0you to DO member
oft A. IL would have no influence ut all
NUMBER OP TEMPLES AND COUNCILS IN sr. LOUIS. !
q. Can you stats the number Of Temples IN the
CITY Of 81. Louis a. cm no.. believe there are
only two of tho st degree and two OF tho I'd and III TO-
grecs. and Grnnd Council. 4rtI !
WITHDRAWAL or GRAND coMNAEDER AND TALK on
TIE sUBtcI BETWEEN DEPUTY GRASD coMAAN-
DER AND GRAND SECRETARY.
O. Have you any knowledge OF tho withdrawal Of Mr.
Hunt from the order before hs arrest A. of my own
knowledge no. have heard villa IN prisoa that he
resigned IN expectation VI boing srrosted.
Have you any knowledge on that subject N revsrd
70 MIR. Duimf A, While In prison. Charles T. Dnnp
woni De beat " pursue. lie sngested rosgDaiion. IL
" 10 could b. rinagej. told him 10 Ief the resirna
Hons ~ " the devil and right down the NJ lal
before the Provost Aarshsl ly this meant full
aekno~ igmoDt u our relations 90 the order d /
o. A. X. sTEAMBoA1s o. TUE RIVER l' rsi
v Have yoa any rccOlootion OF ever having heard
anns tno uen,oois oi The Order that thoyc was any
particular steamboat on the river upon which t runl
Nc ale 10 snip centIaband goods or to travel on a
The MAIN CREED or THE ORDER "a IN srr,r.vrn
" THAT LiscoLN Has UsURpED AUIBokIry AN
THAT THERE EXISTS NOT ONLY A RIGHT ntrr ~
Is DUTY 10 KiaIsr AND fxpLf. HIN ny popcr
IRON PowER, ~ NECESSARY. o~0"
- W nn' "'' universally accepted theory Of the