New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1864-05-20
Mr.. JULIAS-It n false.
Mr. MAIIORy-And N In

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This hurried colloquy occasioncd much excitement
and many members TO their feet, among them Mr.
Cox OF Ohio, who demanded that the offensive words
| be taken down at the clerks desk.
| Mr.. GARFIELD Un. Ohio)-I demand that the words
of the gentleman from Kentucky be taken down.
Mr.. MALLoRY-I suppose the reporters have taken
| Mr.. MILLER (Dem., Pa) wished to know whether.
while that being done it would be in order for tho
House to take Taught
The SPEAKER said ii would not.
Mr.. WINDOW Gun. Mnn.) in his seat asked whether
it would be In order for gentlemen on the opposite side
| to CRY.
The srrAKER said as no ono had called Mr. Mallory
to order required BY the rules In such cases. the
gentleman world proceed.
Mr.. GARFIELD said both the gentlemen from Indiana
| and Kentucky were ont Of order.
The SPEAKER replied-The point comes too late.
| Mr.. MOTION Un H. said that he had called the
gentleman from Indiana TO order.
After further conversation permission was given TO
Mr. MALLORY TO proceed in order. lie apoogized 10
The House for any language he may have uttered viola
tive Of the rules Of the House. He rose TO protest
against the practice Of members altering the official
ports The member not only guilty Of forgery, but
had destroyed tho reporters notes.-the legal evidence
on which he could be convicted lie had piled crime
crime Peion Ossa. and added larceny to forgery.
The StEAHER said these remarks were out OF order.
| Mr.. MAuOEY-I beg pardon did not know
whether they came within the rule or not express
NY regret that was ont Of order.
| Mr. JULIlN-I appeal 20 my friends from Michigan
and Massachusetts, who heard my remarks TO sustain
the truth of my assertion that may brand ns false tho
assertion Of the gentleman fIom Kentucky.
| Mr.. MALLORy-Is that in ordert 1t Is cheap way
lie has.
| The SPEAKER said that when the House gave per-
mission for an explanation they expected remarks OF
sonsl chalacier and the Chair waited for the mem.
Der to be called 10 order for improper language This
the usage in such and for this reason lie had
not nterposcd.
| Mr. LoYGYrAR Un Mich.) having been appealed
TO by Mr.. Julian said be was paying particular aten'
tion ~ the laiiers remarks aad remembered distinctly
that he used the language substantially moi ldehti-
caiiy ~ applied 10 the gentleman from Kentucky.
Mr.. JULIAN next appealed 20 Mr.. STEVEN, q n Pay,
who said he remembered the remarks OF the gentleman
from Indiana. and thought NJ The time they were rude
Mr.. DRIGGs (Un., Mlch) next lndorsed what was sad
by his colleague
Mr. MALLORY said the truth could be established only
by the reporters notes.
Mr.. JtLrAy-I have thus branded the statement Of
the gentleman that j am guilty VI forgery aTalgn
him the evidence OF the gentlemen who heard me say
the identical words. throw back into the teeth OF the
member
The SPEAKER interrupted by saying II no member
rises call the gentleman to order the Char VIII cal
him 10 order.
Mr.. JULIAN, resuming, remarked that the gentle nan
from Kentucky knew nothing was more common tnan
for members TO take the reporters notes anu SUBSTITUTE
the same number OF page, Withholding the notes;
the member thinks proper to be biackgaafd ana fui'
fan / cannot help ii.
Mr. MALLORY repeated that his declaration was clear
and distinct that such language was uttered None
of the gentlemen called upon to prove IL say be Uttered
these words but substantially what Is printed III Is
Globe
Mr. HERMAN Dem.. n. y. having been appeaiecto
by Mr. MALLORY. said he sat near 10 MI Julian pus
did rot hear him say that the blood OF the gentleman
from Kentucky coursed N negroes VEINS VI any tHHs W
Mr.. BALDWIN Dem, Mich) who also sat by Mr..
Julian that occasion, said that the latter mac MADE
Mr. GgiswoLD (Un., v. " remarked that Mr..
Juan- remarks were in the character OF general e1'
pressons. r, o.,,o,,.,
ON Indiana be allowed TO call rebutting Witnessesf
Laughter
Mr.. ScnEscK Q-n, Ohio)-will the gentleman from
Kentucky allow a chapter from the Pickwck possAa'
Mr. MALLORY Some Of your remarks would answer
Just we'll Laughter
: Mr.. PRuYS Dem. \. " confirmed the statements
Of the witnesses called out by M Mallory. lie heard
every word Mr. Julian said. having sat In front OF lin
NJ. MILLER dem, Pa said his own recollection
squared with the gen'lenans Inc grntr man IRON
Indiana did not inter the language In Ihs Gsoos, no
did not believe the gentleman would have uttered !, IN
less under lock aud key or under protection OIL Inc
House.
Ayos MYERS objected to his colleague expressing
Mr.. Hiss Dem Ohio said he did not hear Mr.
Jnau use the Ian guaee r. printed.
Nh. HALLORY-Ihe gentleman from lndlana hAs Tue
only absolute and conclusive proof namely the report
crs notes show Whether be uttered TIE expression OF
not II he show that be did utter the language
will reract my charge. -.
Mr.. JULIAN then called upon Mr.. ORTIZ. who aid 10
did not remember Mr. JuHn- exact words bur ihe ni-
preston his mind WAS that they were as printed III
The Globe -,
Mr. DEsyG said he ~ the time looked to see whether
there any ladies in tie gallery, ana therefore 10
maid particular attention Ia the gcntcmans remark.
ic c6uld not assert that the identical language ap-
pcarcd in The Go5e but he distinctly remembered the
same idea. 81,
Mr. JULIAN said the gentleman from Kentucky had
proven by several members that they did not hear hmi
and now having proved thnt he did not u.s. the lan'
guagc he submitted bis case as made out lie com
nended the gentleman TO Tie Glo5e reporters Let l!n
ask them.
At a subsequent period Mr.. Julian having succeeded
in finding part OF the reporters notes produced them
for the inspection Of Mr. Mallory who. after examining
them said they in accordance with what had been
printed and, Of course, he rctraccd the charge ~
forgery. He (MaJry) would not have made the charge
but the distinct recollection OF the matter He IN
dcrstood the member from Indiana bringing charges
against Soutlerncrs class. OF mngllng their blood
with that of blacks and for that reason he replied that
the emigration Of certain class OF white men to tho
South accounted for the number VI nal9toes gong
North. II he had, at the time unserStood INC member
addressing him personally. his reply would have been
different The gentleman has relieved himself Of 'hs
Mr.. JULIAN in replying 10 Mr.. Miller (Pa) said l
suppose he speaks from his own feelings, and possesses
the cowariicc he charges on me-
Here the matter ended.
RECIPROCITY TREATY.
The House proceeded Ia the consideration OF the Joint
resolution heretofore reported providing for the ap-
pointment OF Commissioners IN order TO effect moro
perfect reciprocity of trade between the United States
aud the British Provinces.
Mr.. PIKE (Un.. Maine) said the Reciprocity Treaty
had now been in operation ten years, and we could
Judge fairly of It's influence the trade of the country
As business arrangement, II WAS an entire failure 10
had not fulfilled any considerable expectation Of It's
originators The fishermen had expected benefit from
it, but were losers. Mr. Cartier said the other day in
the Canadian Parliament that the Goldfish mad made tho
treaty and would continue H. But he understood tho
Goldfish which WAS valuable fish, and neither made
the treaty desired It's continuance. Tie manufae-
turing and commercial interests Of the country had
both suffered from the treaty At the time of III ratin
eNnnrIing the nrOYnccs nhnnf thee