The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1864-08-06
PACIFIC
Commercial Advertiser.
SATURDAY. AUGUST Il.
Proceedings of the Constitutional
Convention.
Seventeenth Day.

The Convention met At IL A. VI His Majesty pre-
siding
report q . speech II b. Published la the COHren'
ti0H Newspaper. but was informed to apply to i'
elito- ia such cHsc.
Virc-Prr-iirnt Robertson submitted TO the Couvcn-
ton an article 20 he passed as Article sd. as follows
An men may freely speak, write snL publish their ssnu.
menif oi ~ -u.lrcts, Being re,p""','lrt t ur r.. t,.r.s sa y
~ ne rS,s 80 q H. V,jrsy nc King AMI the Royal
FiaHy :
And the article passed the Three Estates.
Mr.. D1wsett proposed a substitute for Article Let.
as f0iows:-seconiet
among whIch a4s Tie, uhcrty nai the right of acquiring, pos
@--iur sni pr'setinE property ai q pursuing aud obtaining
Dr. Judd opposed this. and went into the history
81 the formation OF the Constitution Of 1910 and
1852 md said that the clause God hath made 81
cne blood all nations Of the earth ia the first. was
changed into = God hath created NIL men free aud
equal ia the second Constitution.
Mr.. Wana thought there ought To bc n Joint Com
mittec olive appointed to dnf, a lt Article, 50 that
IL shall be strong like the coulter Of a pillow TO clear
eway all obstt actions.
Mr.. Dossett said it expressed every right which
uan ha and wa full enough.
NJ. Vice President Robertson hoped the matter
would be disposed Of now.
The Article then passed the three Estates, as did
the 9Th. g,h. 10Th Articles Of the revision.
The iIth was read. and Mr.. DOwsctt moved to
amend IL by changing 'kupaa OLE into ' lInakiia."
Mr. Koakanu thought that when contracts were
made with natives for long terms aud at 20 cents a
day. this was = involuntary servitude.' "kauue
kaPIa," aud several members explained to him
that IL means " SiGrcrg."
Mr.. Ukeke thought the article should stand SO that
nIen would bring their slaves here. and turn them
Lose, then we should have some population.
The article with its amendment then passed the
three Estates. as did also the 18th. The 18th was
read, aud the amendment was proposed by MIR. Koa-
kanu, To add the words Therefore in making laws
for the nation. regard should bc had To the protec-
ton. interest aud welfare not Of the King, the Chiefs
and Rulers. bot Of all the people"
The Attorney General said that these words were
LETT out, because the expression .. The King conducts
his Government for the common good including the
IDEA Of making laws. rs it was "A general expression.
This amendment was lost and the article passed as it
IL in the revision.
Article 18th passed the three Estates, and Article
18th was read.
The Minister Of Finance stated that the response
biIiy Of spending moneys not appropriated by the
legislature, should be upen individuals responsible
by law; the Cabinet and not the Privy Council.
DR. Jadi proposed the following amendment. add
ira the words :" IL the Legislature refuse TO cover
such expenditure by an appropriation, all the Cabi-
net she'll te held personally responsible for the
amount"
Hon. C. Il. Bishop proposed to substitute for the
weris "a an unforeseen emergency" the words " the
emergencies Of war INVASION, rebellion, pestilence,
The decesse OF the Sovereign or other public DISASTER
ard pending the discussion upon it. the Convention
adjourned until Tomorrow.
Eighteenth Day.
1AibAbA . Jul1 OPLus tCOt-
The Convention met at ii \. NJ, Ills Majesty being
absent.
vico President Robertson commented upon the re-
port Of the proceedings Of the Convention published
in the -4dreTtiser OF that day, and asked the Score
tary if he furnished that report, or IL ne knew who
did. The Secretary replied that he furnished the
report. Judge Robertson then stated that some parts
Of il were calculated TO convey 4 wrong impress ion,
especially some omissions in 1t. The Secretary re-
piled that he was the servant Of the Convention and
il they considered that the positions of Secretary and
Reporter were Incompatible with each other, he
would be happy TO resign As n pirate individual
he was responsible for the reports in the .7irertiser,
and Thought that this was not the place to animad-
vert upon them.
His Ex. II C WylIic said that it was n delicate
anl Important position to fulfl-reporting what was
done in Convention he thought that the Secretary
hal discharged his duties as Secretary properly.
Or. Jndd said that the reports published in the
/CGHrsHfi0H newspaper showed bias. aud he moved
that q Joint Committee be appointed to inspect the
notes Of the stor, haod reporter before printing.
His TX. the Minister of Finance SAIL that this
Committee would be of great assistance he would
ike to have shown him any examples OF "bias - the
Contention new spaper was not a Government paper.
bot 4 private enterprise.
Mf. Green slid shat until to-day he supposed that
the CORrentiOH newspaper was n government enter
nise-
MIR. Kuuwahi thought that the corrections Of the
report in the .ffreTiiser should be made 10 the Re-
PORTER privately.
Judge Robertson stated that he had spoken in Con
vention OF the errors in the report in the Advertiser,
SO That. by his remarks being published in the Com
resti0g newspaper, due publicity might be given 10
This corrections. The motion passed. and the follow
ing Committee was appointed His Elk. the Minister
of Finance, d. II. Hitchcock, J. Z. Green, Hons.
KImakau and kahanu-
Hon G x Bishop wished TO insert in his amend
ment to Article 18th, the words ' and OF a majority
OF the whole Privy Council after the words :. con-
currenee OF ali the Cabinet"
Nr. Dowsett moved to amend this amendment by
striking out the words = the decease of the Sovereign
or other public disaster" the first phrase implied
fear that, at some time, there might not be in the ma
ton sufficient regard for the King TO bury him, and
the latter clause was too broad.
dis tx Z c. Wyllie did not approve of the Privy
Council having a share in this matter all the re.
spansibility shodld be upon the Cabinet besides in
vasion OF rebellion are sudden affairs. and it would
fetter the Ministry to have to assemble all the Priyy
COnncil before any action could be taken.
DR. Judd said he was astunished when the Minis
try presented the article in its present shape, and il
needed amendment, but the phrase a. public disas-
ter" vas capable Of being stretched to cover q great
deal For instance. If the Teachers advertised for
By the Bishop of Honolulu had come out, would not
the Ministry feel Obliged to appropriate money for
their expenses; This Convention might be called a
80 public disaster" and a certain sum applied for the
daily pay Of its members. We are seeking to guard
the - Public Treasury" not the Kings money, as it
has been called.
The Minister Of Finance said that DIR. Judd was
nos fair in his comments There vas no occasion for
laughter. He explained that the Bishop was promis-
ed the office OF President Of the Board Of Education
III September last, and the notice had been sent TO
England on that expectation-but that was under
the late King. aud the present Ministry are not re.
~spOusibe for IT,
lion c. X. Bishop advocated his amendment at
some length.
Hon. ID. Kalakaua said that the members Of the
Prisy Council did not wish this burden imposed upon