Marshall County Republican. (Plymouth, Ind.) 1856-1878, 1864-10-27
O. 1t was against them, then, that you were

South?
A. That was the OF inion where lived.
Q. Do you swear that it was the intention
A. Idon't know as it was, and have never
travelled over other States TO learn how they
considered it, nor conversed with members
elsewhere about it.
@. Did you not state the other day, in your
examination in chief, that you were to meet
the Southern army if they invaded the North,
and shake hands with them?
A. 1t was the understanding, rather, where
lived, that we were to shake hands with them
and be friends. i.
0. Was that the understanding as to the re-
lations of the Order to them?
A. 1t was, as far my knowledge extends,
in our section.
Q. You were willing, then, to shake hands
with the invaders of the North, and be friends
with them2 -
A. This was the sentiment in the section
where lived.
Q. Did this sentiment extend beyond the
Order?
A. think some outside of the Order feltthe
same way.
o. You did not think it wrong, then, to
welcome them as friends?
A. l never understood anything about the
right or wrong of the case. OF the two evils
we were to choose the least
Q. What two evils did you consider it the
least Of?
A. The independence of the South or SUBJ
mission to the oppression of the Administration.
In our section we considered the success OF the
South the least evil
Q. Were you in favor of it against the Gov
eminent of the United States?
A. Yes, sir
Q. Do you still maintain that feeling in your
Lodges there?
A. Yes, sir; we did at the meeting at
tended three weeks ago. | consider that up to
that time, three weeks ago last Saturday, in
stead of two weeks as l stated the other day.
wewere pledged to that faith.
Q. Have you ever conversed with members
of the Order about it since that timer
A. have conversed with different persons
to the same effect frequently since that time.
Amongst the members of the Order in our
township that was the sentiment up to the time
! left
O. At what time did you leave them?
A week ago last Sabbath-some ten days
ago.
Q. How did, you come to leave home and
come here?
A. Twas brought here by the Provost Mar
shall A subpoena was served on me, instructing
me to come here.
Q. Were you arrested, and then subp9uaed7
I A. I was not arrested, nor brought here in
irons.
+ @ Where have you staid since you came
here?
. A. At hotel, sir.
Q. Who has staid with you?
A. The gentleman rooming with me is Mr..
Turnbull
Q. Is Mr.. Turnbull member of the Order,
or friend of il?
A. he s not member of the Order.
@ Is he Democrat?
A. guess not, sir.
@ Did yon come here with him?
H No sir
q. How did you come to room with him?
A | came 10 the Mason House, and the clerk
informed me that gentleman named Turnball,
from my county, was there, and | occupied the
same room with him.
O. How long since you had an interview
with Turnbull about this Order?
A have bad none, because did not feel
very friendly toward him, as thought be might
have had something to do with bringing me
here.
O. How long before you came here did you
have an interview with him?
A. | stated before that / had never talked
outside of the Order with any one, before
came here, on that subject.
Q. Did you never give your name to Tarn-
bull as member of the Order, and ask mis- ad-
vice about your connection with it?
A. No, sir.
Q Did you not state to him, that you were
willing to De witness against the Order?
4. No. sir. | was brought here, and was
ignorant as to what was subpenaed for.
Q. Did the Government promise you that
you would he protected against prosecution, if
you testified against the Order?
A. ] have received no assurances of that
kind, except wha, had here to-day from the
Judge Advocate.
Q. Di, you testify without fear or favor?
A. | had fears, but not of this court.
O. What were you in fear OF?
A. | have had fears that would be arrested
on the strength of the testimony / have given
here; and also have had fears about the deal
irgs with me of the organization to which /
belong.
O. How did you come to give q full expos
ure of this Order TO the Judge Advocate, and
refused 10 answer nv questions?
A. felt obliged TO answer his questions
You asked questions which did not feel it my
duty to answer as did those asked by him.
Q. Have you ever conferred with any mill
tary official since you came here in reference
to testitying about this Order?
A. | have been asked by an officer, since /
came to this city, if belonged to this Order;
but / cannot give his name. l think he is
General.
Q. Is his name Darlington?
A l think that is the name.
Q. Did not General Carrington tell you that
you had to testify to what you knew about the
Order, or be in prison and wait your trial?
y. He did not tell me anything of that
kind, sir7
Q. Did he not tell You that if you testified
against the Order, you would be exempted from
punishment
A. No person but the Judge Advocate has
ever told me that. | have had my fears of be-
ing arrested when l got home.
Q. Did you not tell General Darlington that
you would ne ruined at home on account of
your testimony?
A. msy have told him 50.
Q. Why did you expect it wouli ruin you?
A. supposed it would so far the Order
extends; for its members are all under the same
obligation that hsye taken.
Q Why do you make this exposure of the
Order, after taking that obligation 20 keep it a
secret?
A. have testified before this Court rolun-
tarily, because the law makes it my duty to tell
the truth; and as az honest and truthful mat
mean to tell the truth and nothing else.
Q. You preferred telling the truth, then,
and exposing the Order, rather than keeping
your obligation not to reveal the secrets 81 the
Order?
A. / considered this a lawful tribunal, and
have spoken the whole truth.
Q. Do you not consider the Order lawful
organizstion2
! A. No, sir do not
Q. Then you regard the laws of the land and
Of this Government as preferable to assisting
the Confederacy?
A | regard my obligations to the laws of
the land first of ell, to speak the truth, and
wish SO lar IS IN me lies to respect ans obey the
laws. 49,. 49,.
Question by the Judge Advocate Had You
or had you not an interview with General Car
rington beside the one that took place in my
room2
A. had, sir. General Darlington, 1 sup