New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-09-19

90 nnS pneashed wood ashes for potash for sui
pburc acid suphato Of Lime and for soda common Jay.
But suppose you supply all these m,6e nran Cersiny
not This has been fully proved by experiments 81 Mf.
Iewes Of England When he applied these Ingredients
for twenty years ta sron VA increased
from 6 to "A bushels Three pounds OF bones furnish
all the phosphoric acid needed for bushei OF wnsaI
Int n viii NOT add bushel of wheat to the crop put
yon .nnv salts Of ammonia TO tho soil produces AZ w
mineral Ingredients needed. but the cost o. tnese s
ia too great for the former to use upon
and no must therefore depend upon Dis aoh'y " P''
duce nitrogenons substances on MS iaiin. ,a.,ort
There are soils where mineral matters arc Menc'en
but that is not the case in Western new, iorh;
would not pay to purchase susn % tban upon cereals
So long as we can get good crops Of clover we can
wheat Now the great question Is. now 10 sct on.1t
NAV II can he obtained. The farmer should also ieea
such things as will produce the Tichest manuIe. ~.
made from clover Is three times as valuable az tbat na
fron, straw and twice az valuable as when made HoH
,imo,by II ia still more valuable when made from SUD
stances rich in heterogeneous matters sucn - peas o
oil cake, Indian corn &c; .h,t Ia b,i
Solos ROBINSON related some facts 70 snow tnat ne nn.
made .o,ne vcry much exhausted land in Westchestei
County produce clover BY the use OF sat anu tey
light dressing Of heterogeneous manure, shu S;eirI
inc given his land n start in clover he ionnu no
tx in keeuing I'D its productiyeness and ne ,nougn
that that was about all that farmers couid aoIa W pp
chase. They must in the main depehd aR,n farm
afe manure He also stated that Engish iaI
cr nd II profitable n purchase chambers greaVes 40
! Tar yorL at So5a $50 ~ tun for manurial purposes
Tbese n Ike highly heterogeneous manure Us they af'
IrcEgR 1of he Country Gen,lemen) asked Mr.
Harris if it had not been fully proAed IN Enganu mat
that infrngenous manres we're fully sulncieht HAu'
mineral niauures For instance the four-conrse eys
TEN OF two cereal crops, and two OF roots anu cS,
and feeling crops on the farm Ire great wan. .e,.
there appears to be how ~ get this introgenCs us
in the most economical manner. Can we tell cer'ainy
what soils require mineral manures. Is 1t known Dy
the giving ont Of the clover crop. or on the ilapy
al. Int
they must purchase something that the SOL neeos 70
make IL again productivei
Mr. HARRIS roped that the filnre OF the clover crop
-honld be taken indication that there 10 dehci
ency in sort OF mineral fertilizer; but then Is
question whether it is not profitable to purchase
ammoniaca mannres, such as the chambers greaTes,
spoken # by Mr. Robinson.
THE Hon I. c. PETERS Of Darien. N. T., said that
only pr cent Of the land IN the State Is nat9r
wheat soil. OFF Of these lands there is deli
cheney OF lime. In the dairy districts the bes,
pas,i,. and meadows plowed. and Of course
top dress tncm with cowyard manure As the farmers
have no clover n they must top dress with barn
yard manures over purchased manures' Upop
one portion Of my LAID / cannot grow good Wheat
although in wheat district. In Duchess Coun.
~ where wheat once grew finely. now II Is bus
little cultivated. In all the eastern counties rye
is the great crop and yields four bushels an acre over
the average of the State There is treat diversity Oh
soil in this state and though some will not produce
wheat approhend that that which produces grass ma
turay is lie mos, profitable, grass is the great cSop
How shall We manure these dairy lands is question
~ much importance. II there are any mineral ma.
nurcs that VIII pay the farmers want 70 know what
they are. o,e,ons,,
mark To clio, err because OF any Kind erAz.r
Dt low To increase this IL the question. have thought
that upon dairy farms the owners could Afford 70
use bone dust. also think that many farms could De
very much improved BY irrigation There "a no doubt
about The fertzng power ~ water. and there are IN.
Vulnerable in this state that can be made 70 double
cir PRODUCTS by irrigation which can oe apphed ~
Mr' pfrERs inquired whether it would be better to
feed clover under upon farms where clover IS
Cen MILLER Of Delaware County said that the. had
land IN that county that would not grow clover and
that is actually injured by blowing Barn yard manure
Of course, would DO valuable, but how TO &C..
IL, or. Il We had ii, could we haul Il TO
the top ~ the mountains, Ashes be considered
the mosi economical top dressing. at cost OF ~
cent. husLe In my opinion there Is no manure So
valuable IS BARNARD manure and il should be rule
of farmers TO make all that il possible. by drawing
upon mineral manures in the soil without apply barn.
yard manure, shall at length exhaust the sol l
would nos mortgage my farm 70 raise money To support
nv family but II any system leaves the soil pcorer than
IL was IL Is equal 10 nortgaCng the farm. As long as
We continue 10 produce crops upon which can live.
without exhausting the soil we DO not mortgage our
farms and mpovsrish our children ANY oulef s!s'e"
| Of farming il an erroneous one.
SoIos EoBssoS-Thc question is not Of tie valne o!
barn ard manure. but how 10 increase It. OF purchase
substitute at cost that viii be prohtaole NO matter
how much pay. that we get returns III grass
grain meat, butter. cheese; that makes food
Mr. WAIR,TH 81. Lawrence County, sid that thiry
wears ago we raised good Winter wheat which we
cannot now for the reason. think. that We DO not
pillow deep enough 10 loosen up the sub>oil nave
improved hop crop % per cent by subsoihng. and
have improved my production generally by the sane
means Also by growing roots. and feeding products
upon the farm. IL subsoins. have got rid oi thises
/ and sofrel
Mr.. Looms Of Caylgl-My experience shows ire that
the advantages Of ubsong sot oyerrated tarineis
-hond stud, what crops best suited % their soil
The idea OF stimulating soil ialacious What Is mos:
needed j. 10 continually STIR cultivated iand brt no,
pastures and meadows IS long rs they produce good
cr9Is' .,,.,..., ,..,,o. Ian, .,
seutal 90 stir the sub soil ana not turn 1t up tpon
oth,ra land he finds 1t advantageous to turn the SOL
deeply.
rn rlanrres 20 buy or other al that want cannot
be supplied by harn.yard maunre Most SOILS show by
analysis that they have an abundance Of mineral sub
stances ir oil crops for any length OF TIM Where
clover cannot be turned IN l. LOT good economy 70
purchase feed for cattle increase the product OF the
barn.yardi Dairy farmers IN this State have pToyec
that hoy double their stock by topdressng Will
animal MANURE. The bes farmers are paying more and
attention 10 the preservation Of manure In Mis-
sachusy has been proved by series OF experiments
that the best results come nom an Application oi nesE
COW droppiugs the surface 10 produc. rich manure.
mutt feed rich food Ii We buy such food and maze
II into manure. We can enrich tie poorest soil
Gen. MILLrRof Dclaware- There is no question about
the value of barn yard manure bu. al ho not snhs'
ocu have got all tue food Of plants a. At We ~
quire Iwaut 10 know how 20 enrich The top ~ noun,
aims where cannot afford 10 haul barnyari manure
80 long get ashes ~ The prcsen; rates 10
hesc they are the most economical substance TAI We
can purchase
&c PETKRs-Wherc,er The water Is So the appli
cation OF unleaohcd ashes is beneficial On the wheat
soil plaster Is boneiyil lAa; settles two groe; sue'
f.rm bv 2shes s,I by deli Probably these txc
minerals are all that we need for the present
Mr.. Looms of Cuyuga--Iiow far down do the roof
of crops draw up mineral substances Is there No,
epou,L n the soil within souch To answer al iGurs
time II apply the necessary iarnyard manure 10 III