Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1863-05-14


considered II harmless. and AFTER short time stopped
We're you not expressly sent for the purpose Of lie
tenins to my speech on that ocossion 2 ss' s9
A. was not any moro than to the others sa e.
q BY whom were y0u scntf R4gl sYtfs(3
A. By Captain Andrew g. Ksmpsr Assistant Adjatan
General Of the military commend Of this city sfa
A. did not report to Capt Kenpsr. but 10 Col East
man. and was rou there sent TO the headquarters Of the
department Of the Ohio. III E3i Il ysg2 .ea,
TESTIMONY OF CAPT. JOHN 4. MEANS.
Question BY the Judge Advocate. What 10 your ranl
ana regiment T..tr 49, s8
4 A. Captain in the lI5.h Ohio volunteer infantry
Were present at the meeting Of ctsens at Mount
Vernon, Ohio, on Friday, May !, 1857 ss5 4ss!
a. Did you hear the accused address that mestine7
A. did stood most Of the time about ten ieet i'm.
medatey in front Of the stand and heard the whOle fhe
speech He said that the not carried for the
preservation Of the Union that it might have been stop
ped and peace restored time ago and the Union saved
II the plan which had been submitted had been accepted
b the Government the day before the battle Of Frsde
ncksbnrg ~ ~, lse., tousass sFr
points the ground that he had applied for subp@na for
Fernando Wood of New York. to bring with him the plan
proposed and had been refused.
The Judge Advocate replied that this point might be
waived and hs woui strike from the specifications what
related to the proposed plan of restoring the Union
The witness continued That # the plan had been
adopted would have been tho Union saved
by reconstruction the South back and guaranteed n
her rights That armies didn't meet with success
that Richmond not taken, Charleston Voksburg
that the ssppi was not open, and would not be
long there cotton to cell contracts to reward
Ho sad regard the rebuke or the Administration at
the last fall electiOn that volunteers could be
had that the Administration had to resort to the French
conscrpton that he would not counsel resistance to
the military civil law for that not needed That
people unworthy to be freeMen who would submit to
such encroschments on their liberties. y n asfss
@ What encroacbments did be refer to
A. He speaking Of the conscripton act. He said
he believed the Administration attempting to erect
despotsm; that In less than one month Lincoln had
plunged the country into this cruel bloody, and
sary war.
Can you recall any thing he said in relation to Gene
raj Order No. 80 @N bt sc e
A. He said the General Order No 80 was usurpation
of power that he despised it, spit upon it tramped it
under his feet that he for one would regard it, He
styled the Administration officers, and Oicers Of the
army, mniens Of the Administration He said he did
ask Gen. Ambrose Burnside whether he might speak
there Io that he freeman. and spoke when and
where he pleased.
O. Do you remember any thing he said with reference
to the course he advised The people to pursue' ~
A. He said these proclamnii0ns and military orders
were intended to ntmdut- the people, and prevent them
from mnglnR tog ther they we're doing that day that
he claimed the right to dscuss and crcse the actions of
the civil and military officers of the Government.
O. Did no advise the people to take any stepsi
he advised them the close Of his speech to come
up together at the bAotbox and hur the tyrant from his
throne. He styled the President at another time
" King Lincoln" ssasa
Cross-Eraminatiom. ~ eT
O. BY Mr.. Valandigham. Did you take any notes dur
ing the delivery Of the rPeech or you tesyrg from
memory
took no minutes during the delivery Of the speech
but otter Mr. P.ndeton began speaking went to the
tel perhaps hour and half aerward, and wrote
minutes Of the speech
o You sp-ak of my saying that the North might have
been back; was it not that the South might have
been won back, &c.
A. No; noticed this particularly. and it struck me vsry
forcibly.
Mr. 'vallandigham If said it, it must have been a
slip Of the tongue.
o You say that said would not counsel resistance to
people to obey the Constitution and all law aud pay
proper respect to in authority, and MAINTAIN their
political rights through he ballot box aud redress personal
through th. judicial trbunas OF the country and
in that way to rebuke and put down the Administration
and all usurpations OF powerf
A. Not in that connexion He said at the Last Of his
speech to up to the baotbox and hur the yrant
from his throne.
O. Did he not counsel them to submit to all law
A. No. sr didn't understand him 10 counsel the people
to submit to the authorities at all times can't remember
he used the language OF the question: tho substance
Of il as stated. b9 scs 81
@ Did rot say that my authority to speak to the
people public assemblsges on all public questions.
not derived from General Order No 49, but General Order
No. l. the Constitution of the United States General
Washington c0mmandiDgf
O. understood him TO say that his authority to speak
the people higher than General Order No. 80 Of that
mobbing despot Gen. Burnside. It was Order No. 1,
signed by George Washington. $50. =
O. Were not the three names Of Tod Lincoln, and
used together and that didn't ask their
10 spcak sfase srt.t.6 fs.s a
A. AT another time he used these words
O. Were the remarks you said made about despis-
ng splitting upon. and trampng under foot expressly ap
piled in reference h arbitrary power g.nerAy and didn't
IN that connection refer to General Order No g. ia In
iiana signed by Gen Hasca denying the right crtcse
the war policy Of the Admimstrat,ooi - s8t
A. The remarks in regard to despsng, splitting upon,
rampug under foot made in drec reference to Or
Ter No 49, He some time afterward in speaking Of the
yrnnuy the Administration said that order had
suei Indiana denying the people right to critcse
The military policy of the Administration and If submitted
to, it would be followed by civil war in Ohio. s.tE
Q. DO you undertake TO give any INJECTED mehod-
Gal statement Of tho speech on that occasionf s ss
Judge Advocate The conrt can judge a. to that point
but he may answer. E. 8Hseat.s - rav
A. do not pretend to give the speech commencing with
the first and giving it just as he spoke it, II
Mr. Valandg ghamlthen asked the questions as he
asked the former witness with reference ~ the way
which he went to the meetings and, addition. whether
went there TO report the speech fer the purpose Of
prosecution under General Order No. 35. ex4
A. did not.
Q. Were amy reasons given you why you should 90
there to report the speech
The Judge Advocate objected to such questions for the
that they evidently intended for some other
purpose than to subseve the ends Justice in the trial
@. will put the question this way, then Was any OBJ
ect stated to you, and IL 90, what etr& tt
A. There object stated. -
The Judge Advocate here rested his evidences.
Mr.. Valandigham Hskcd of ffteen minues for
the purpo,e OF consultation with hs lawyers at the close
Of which he proceeded with the testimony hs behalf
TESTIMONY OF HON. g. s. cox
c meeting in Mount Vernon Friday, May i. 1859
A. i presspt of ths suas kars haas "a IN.