New-York daily tribune., 1863-08-01

" Bot you can't put us down." he replied, good
humore dIy; "ycu'li have to crush our military
power bsfore you reach tho dagkies, and you ought
TO know you caa't do that
"I don't know il. It's mere question OF time
and numbers three against one are sure to conquer
in The long rua."
"When the three have brainsi but, you sce, your
! Lree haven't"
81 knos5 your Generals have thus far shown
moro ability than ours; but occasions sro sure to
develop m.n, though il may take time. How long
was i. before the EngHst Revolution produced
Cromwell and the French Napoleonr'
"a long time, know. But Generals nre not
what you want. You have them now. You have
Rosecrans, and Banks, and Grant, and lTItle Phil.
Sheridan down there at Murfreesboro Ether OF
them is a match for any leader we have, and Rose
crsns is head and shoulders above any General on
this continent. lie has great organizing military
mind. lie never makes mistake. lie check
mated Lee 80 Handsomely in Western Virginia that
Lee himself isn't ashamed TO own it. II ne had him
wod whip you in ninety days; but you shut bin up,
without supplies or horses where he can do nothing,
and where our cavalry can walk round him. as "A
clown walks round the pole at a circus. 1t Ia not
Geu,rals you want. You want an Adminifiration. y
"But We think we have one answered, laugh
ing; sow, it may be, but sure; aud AS honest a'
the times will allow
"Ips true, it's slow; but-honest' Talk Of iit
being honest, with Stanton in it man as corrupt
az sin, aud rs venal as a Tombs lawyeri WY,
Sir he's as ignorant as dTky; end yet you trust
the management Of great war TO him. But, il
euits us exactly. 1t coavinces me tho Almighty
means We shall be Free"
But you are not, and never will be, Free Your
/ Government IL q despoIism already, and Whatever
NAV be sud Of ours, our liberties safe with il.
"Libertiesl There's an awful amount OF cant
abou, tha. word. Oar people are no free US people
should be. This idea OF universal suffrage kin9
q small sovereign Of every ignorant c!cdhopper who
comes into tho country, is played out We've tried
IT uuder the old Government, and had enough OF IT.
Republican institutions failure, and you'll be
convinced OF it before many years"
a two hours conversation, ranging over thete hnd
kindred suljecis, eusued between the Colonel and
myself and in the Of it he stated that II is the
puruose of tho Rebel leaders 70 found al elective
monarchy, and that they had that design a, the In
eeption Of the Rebellion. " i own no slaves" be
said. "and am therefore not persopally interested
in sustaining the institution. ! am fighting for some
thing thar can leave to my descendsnts-a iitlC
tha, can be perpetuaiod in my family; and know
Whether live or die, shall be successful; for, Il
am killed, my country will DO me- justice in ny
children"
Hs spoke freely and openly Of this. " an vii
ling. he said, " tia, all mankind should know It.
The time has gone by when it was policy to conceal
it from our poorer olasss. We have them now
where they must submit, aud with tue rest Of the
worlI-Eng and, Fnnce, Spain, and even Rnsis
Which 70 cottons TO the North it viii vastly help u.s.
| lie expressed the opinion thai rupiufe ia ilami
nent between England aud the United states. " Ia
gland TILL no y, las ooyeruy played Into our hands
Size will soon throw of the mark, and do overt sci'
that will make war inevitable, iftho Northern poe
rle lave a spark Of manhood or seli-resPeot len
Ii Iivieksburg bad not fallen, If Lee had not tes'
defeated; II the CopPorhoad leaders had ne i'"f
filled in their attempt to force Eew.losk h5 IL
Rebellion, whs. the Rebel Colonel prsdlsted might
ere long, prove true. But those eyenis have o.
cured, 1t may Dow TeasonAbly bo expected ,ha, the
roar Of the British Ion will subsde into sound IA
soit a. tie plAintye voice Of Il borrowing calf