The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1863-09-22
THE LATE FIRE AT Wits"..r, p,NRRy


Bre~ acknowledgements OF
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&NsstAoPs and UnsR Trajectory An
sWsrs, SC.
The examination IN Inc case Of John T. Wilson and
Others who charged with setting IRE she cracker
bakery, No. 70 Fulton street, the complaint Of Mrs.
Margaret Larlio resumed yesterday before Justice
Bowling. Tho examination OF the complainant was
have commenced at nno O'clock but tho witness took
strange freak her head and refused 10 attend
unsss compelled DO 80 by moaps subpoena. The ma
gstate issued the necessary mandate and adjourned the
until O'Clock at which hour the investigation was
resumed Mrs. LarKin did not stand the test OF cross
examination well as was expected. Shc contradcted
and herself several times under Mr. sedgweks
caechIslng. especially when relating her experience al
Inc Bowery and Bleecker Street Savings Banks Tho
looks favorable for the defendants every day,
aud viii probably result In tho innocence Of the accused
bong fully established. Annexed Is report OF yesler
days proceedings
Cross-sxamination Of Mrs LarKn contnacd--Q. What
did you see Mr.. Simpson do New Years nayf A.
saw wisp OF straw in his hand 1t appeared 70 be
lighted With or pitch; first him set nre TO the
baskets IL was about eight O'Clock Nj was expect
ing my son home and was watching the crock.
.. When you to the District Attorney what did
AND io hum tia, mr. Wilson, refused to pay the note he
owed my husband also told him that was very poor,
what the note about and told him that Mr.. Wilson
had his bakebouse burned and that lost all my money
and clothes by IT. told him no more at that tme as he
had 10 listen TO and went into Court; the
Dsric, Attorney sont me 70 another gentleman and re-
lated 10 him al the particulars Of the fire. this gentleman
sud he would sea Mr. Wilson and see he could got
money returned ia day or two afterwards; Mr. Hall
| said he could do nothing for me; that he only
lawyer and make the whole statement 10 him;
asked At the District Attorney Office how the
something about IT, then went to Mr. Nash lawyer, in
Centre street, and he took before tho Surrogate;
TO Mr. DAILY, or No. 81 Wall street; these law
to get my money as was quite destitute; wanted
them 70 Mr.. wilson for damages for causing the
! death Of my husband and soD, who we're killed in his
employ.
threw a,npowder in the oven irrnace? a. did not.
q. What did ar Wilson arrest you for9 A FIR crying
| for nsoani.
q. What do you by 'crying For your husbandf'
mean that as WIS on Tho stoopl saw tho works. "
the which had blown up being carried away and
commenced crying the next day was arrested Tor cry
| ns. and hauled through the Streets like dog.
q Did YOU rot say There are The murdercrs,'' ad-
dressing Mr.. Wilson 4. Not at that time
q. hid YOU spit in Jerry Kings face thai day A. NO.
Q. Did you ever call Mr. wilson or Ar. Simpson mur-
. Did you ever any violent language towards them
| 10 the street A. No.
q Did you say you woa'd have Mr.. simpsons
O. Did you ever say that Mr. Wilson must support my
az r se Mr. suson MIR he wena DO
for my family did not oak him for anything about
week ago in cherry street remember meeting him,
bnt wo de passed between never made any
threat against Mr. Wilson o. Mr.. Simpson TO my
recollection never threatened Mrs. cameron but we
have awed about tho IRE; told Mrs. Cameron that che
Drea the bakehcgse and ahe could net deny IT, called
her house burner. becnusc | saw her do H. do not
plenty Of names and sad was crazy because cried
for my bnsband have been supported by tho bakers
since nv husband DEATH the money subscribed for
the ss as ns in osszes 400 ny
% M s s9 4s NJ = epn rns , ,Ss ssnds ,sey
carried The bundle the way niJ snn was VIII
them they nronghl everything into hosee oh l6o
Sps9s's side s Of the way e0s se bundle
i a' b s Sn' Ses ss had ps as p sss
ssa ew az S" Dn Fa W. on d
my tried 10 get gold Tor IT, deposited the money my
daughter was in my daughters name because sbe
lucy the bank officers did ask how old Ca'ha
rne was or whether she was married or single they did
not ask for her signature; they knew me at tho bank
they saw me there before, when drew out the $500
passed remarks and signed ordtr there $500
in The Blocker Street Rank altogether, $500 OF which
Grew oct sod had also had $500 IN the BOwcry Hank
which also drawn out; the money that lost be
a house, and MIR. wilson promised 10 back lin ny;
my kent the money in his desk, but when the IRE
Tho hunele o clothes for safe keeping have known Mr.
wilson for egh; but have not been In the habit Of
speak ing 10 him. cannot tell what day o. The week
month hr. Wilson bad the conversation with mo about
setting IRE 10 the bakery; ,seyioas that he never
you do.'
O. bid you ever have conversation with Mr. Wilson
a.. / q
Nre. camefon's daughter, guess he don't want 10
know anything about that
O. wha, did Mrs. Cameron ssy TO you two DAYS before
the 6re A. Sno said 10 ready there was & me one
coming 10 see mo; asked who tho gentleman was when
sLe replied has i was Mr. wilson; don't know what
hour 81 tho day this occurred cannot whether il was
was between ono and Fix o'clock not brk IL between
two and six O'Clock; Mr. wilson then came in,o the
hoise amt told me to take char he ssid he
10 do bin favor; thai he wanted me TO assist Nrs. Cam
eron to pat match 10 the bake house two evenings
from that time: be also SAID the place harrow,
aud that lie bad not room TO ill the government: orders
and that ~ burning IL down he would DO able pur.
chase hot or either Que eide the ether and perhaps
both he said he Scald give me The handsome little snm
u 5000 fer NJ. services: Just then my husband camo In
before my husband in Mr Wilson sind he could
bnd up The bsknFy ia SIX weeks and would ray my
band and son their wages until II was tnnt up; when
my husband came ~ wilson sad 'iiaoa, where are you
Irecosi Icr saying thet would not do o. Mr. Wilson
Mibc, cs2 ~. yy .s cd d. aaa ea y. gis9 i2ena
hsve money enough redeem you shord you be aus.
reced: besides tue suspicion would rest on u tho
sn 55 S ss 'Ga &c s,%s S
Wy bnsoand aid he cane in or drink when r WILSON
asked him wha, be generally took Mr. Wilson then
ny cents TO pu1p6ass l. ,be poS bsi roiy ee a
S Ss ~ vsygn I'D drank d4Ss 01 sr %.S Of
S@ syor i Il waited ~ 10 Sanction a.
my husband asked what wa, when Mr. Wilson SAID he
bakchcuse hushald said ''supposs they should be
caught" When Mr.. wilson replied that ,he suspicion
SAID that be had 10 60, and said might do a. liked
when he went ont he nodded his head TO me not 10 sst
Mrs Cameron 90 MOI rccoliect seeog Mr. simpson be-
tween that eveug anu the evening Of the Ore DO not
know how many cans q on Mr Simpson took out
o. the wagon IN New Years bay there r.rs
three or iour cans ~ The wagon; saw Ml, SNIP
three o. four times hs, day o.hno. Fay how
many times hiu by DAYLIGHT that rAy.
VI. wisoo p, psr Of the funeAi expenses for my son
Terrence. be tny Paid TOE horse hsarse and car.
rage the eot'n was The na,.iest saw II opened
when the neD opened The grave fer my other son. and
exposed the bodt TO view went % $50 Mr. Wilson his
bonse q Few dsNs atcr my husband death went no Al
Mr. wisous nvitstirD he told hat be would set e
WITH me, aud ply me ~lsst sas due my husband. he
wanted - all pi my little sop bat told him would not
part With hun wben called ho sad he wold not pay
me Tor The no,c AID told me call near HIM o. hi.
bakery he said he would not pay because my ION was
impatient sud snapped hls fingers at him two eyouinrs
before New Years Day this conversation occurred tho
month " una tbehois was for 81 900. payable IN 80
days, my husband gave u u and We kept II IN desk
y was haied from New Years Day; wss going down
the kra Mnrahas 20 MIN nnrunr aliAr the