New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-05-07

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shIa that British vessels trading 70 neutral porte.
and IN Az doing at liberty to carry contraband
of war. should be deprived OF any sort of security.
AZ the same time the Government could not help the
attached 10 vessels trading 10 sus-
pected rorts but they ought 10 take care that The
rights allowed to beligerents We're not wantoDly or
ageressively used
Lord Wodenouee said that ships sailing TO a neu
trail port like Matamoras, If on a bona fde voyage,
ought not to be questioned by the Union cruisers;
there might be some questions as TO the destination
OF the goods conveyed by her after they landed
vessel or her voyage. In the present temper OF the
American people, the Government could only pre-
serve the peace by acting firmly while they pro
coeded calmly, and by not altering one jot Of their
own rights willie respecting the rights Of others.
Earl Granville urged that Government had acted
prudently snd consistently nnder very delicate CIR
cumsances. and deprecated angry discussion on i'm
perfect information.
The subject then dropped.
In the House of Commons. on the same evening,
the debate was inaugurated by Mr.. RoebucS.
SPEECH OF MIR. ROEBUCK.
Mr.. Roebuck-I have not given notice Of motion,
but have a question which, according to notice,
wish to put to the noble lord. 1t refers to matters
now going on in the West Indian waters and very
nearly affecting English trade. Hear, hear. l
alluds to the proceedings of admiral in the United
States service with respect to English merchant
shipping going from Al English port to a neutral
port Hear, hear. 1 wish TO preface my question
with one or two observations but will not occupy
the time of the House very long. Hear, hear
know the noble lord is an older man than am,
but STILL older as he H. he will not take me in thai
way. IA laugh wish to make a few observa-
lions before put the question to the noble lord:
Tie question relates to the conduct Of Admiral
Wilkes Sir, when the American war broke out,
| may cav, the large majority Of the Eng
slnaL nf
America. Hear, besr.l may say for myself
that that shock was of very strong character Tor
all nv early notions were that in America a great
experiment was being made in government.
thought they had entered on that experiment m Il
way that mankind had never done before, and that
fortune would prevail in their favor, for they We're
worthy Of governing Themselves. When the news
came, and that great experiment was at an end-ior
II is at an end hear, hear my heart failed me, Tor
then / was compelled TO acknowledge that men,
under the most favorable circumstances, had proved
Themselves unworthy of governing Themselves. That
was nv feeling at that time, aud my feeling was ID
favor Of the North. lime went on, aud their whole
conduct was such as pro yed them not only unit for
the government OF themselves, but unit for the
cour,esles aud the community of the civilized world
+" Oh oh |" aod cheers. Oh yea, Sir, know
there are degenerate Englishmen--l cheersl-who
take the part Of the North against their own ooun-
try-[cheesl and whenever matters come INTO
collision between America and England their
voice 10 raised on the side Of Amenca
Cheers, and Obi oh!'l 1 Gun perfectly under
staud. / am very glad TO find that what say
touche. the hon. gentlemen opposite. IL APPEAR
that the question Of which have given notice ere
ates a great sensation among them. Hear, hear.
Well Sir the conduct Of the North American dis
united States has been such as is humllsing to the
I eople oil England. Cheers The noble lord has
shown himself hitherto friend OF The h0hor, Tue
dignity, and the prosperity of England. lie never
showed that more than his conduct a. the head VI
the Administration in the circumstances connected
with the Trent. Cheer. We have been SUBJECT
70 every species Of violent Language chcerrl not
Of insinuaiion, but Of accusation We were threat
eDed with war, and King Cotton was 10 crush
Us. lie has tired his power, and hing
Cotton has failed. We resented an act insolenl
and Overlooking; we cslLsi them 10 account, ard
they truckled IN their answer. Cheers Another
outrage has taken place. and by the same man
who perperated the insult offered TO our nag In the
case of tie Trent A vessel leaves the English shore;
the hon. member for London. opposite Mr.. Crsw-
fordl ,ays he has her paper. and they are per
fectly harmless. Size was bound To neutral port
1 Cheers She was seized by an American man'oi-
war taken INTO AN American port, and the expecta-
tions of the English merchant in has honorable trade
have been utterly destroyed by the conduct OF the
American Government. i cay that The conduct
of the American Government yon Ought TO resent.
iCheers. But not only was this done, there were
persons calling themselves English merchants VINO
to allow their ship 10 proceed IN safety to its dee
tination. That permit IL granted, and why BE
cause that ship carried out arms 10 the NeNichns,
to be- used against our ally, France lCheers.
Since then other men, calling themselves Engli,n
merchants, have applied 10 the same authority for
the same permit. They have been refused because
they are Englishmen, and because they not car
rvinR on, arms to aid the MsXicans in war, though
they were trading TO the same Iert lCheers The
permit. 1 repeat, was refused, and now must say
that Mr. Adams, the American Minister, is the NJ IN
lister for commerce in England. Loud cheers Sir,
| would pat il to the noble lord-the man who has
hitherto shown hmsel alive 10 the dignity and hon.
or of England would ask him whether the Gov
eminent OF which be ID the head has come 10 any
determination in this matter, and II they have,
whether he il able 10 tell Parliament what that
determination il. Sir, / know the consquen-
ces of the action be may take. 1t may
lead to war, and !, speaking here for the English
people am prepared for war. Loud cheers. and
:. Oh oh p'l know that language will strike the
heart Of the peace party IN this country but IL VIII
also strike the hearts OF the insolent people who
govern America; and we shall have justice done to
the honors and dignity of England, and the COM
merce Of this country will no longer be SubJec! to
the sneerinQ insolence OF al upstsft race. lCheep
The question have to ask the noble lord IA, whether
the Government Of which he 10 at the head have
formed any determination with regard TO the con-
duct Of Admiral Wilkes, whether they have ad-
dressed any remonstrancc TO tho American Gov
eminent. and whether he is prepared now to state
the course the Government have determined 10
pursue. Hear, hear.
Lord Pamerston rad the House would al once
understand, from what bad fallen from his hon.
friend that the matter 10 which his question re-.
ferred, OF the utmost possible importance. All
he could cay that 1t was receiving due considera-
tion from Government but he was not prepared at
present to state at what result her Majestys Gov
ernment might arrive.
Mr.. G.. r. Ben;inck ct some length called attention
to the correspondence in The Tunes with respect TO
the seizure of the PeterboH, the conveyance Of the
mails to Mexico, and the conduct OF the United
States Minister in granting permits for the convey
ance of arms for the Of the Mexicans against the