New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-09-21

present opportunity 10 tih uloi o.s' Piois''.-
Ee vould assert that the best method OF treating ma
cr is not 10 husband Of ALL but 10 apply directly
as fast made 20 the surface upon grass ahC VOTE
80 ,lc spil IL upon pioW ed lErd.
'gbe non. f. C. Peters said that he had word TO say
Noon the ehjcct debated last evening as he does no.
Ieleye in tie necessity Of rotation On lands east OF
roSvia fortv eros Of whel! have been grown in sue
cs;on and bare probably averaged thirty bushels per
cro IN The last crOvs good rs any o. ire preceding
Tho Clair has stated IN s argument that DO considers
corn an essential IN 81 stem oi rolauOh DIV he uouD's
fc,ber AZ ,yi NV a. grow corn IN tbs STATE wcI'
frers can buv It at their door upon an acreage ofic
cots hrshc Unless the corn fclder VIII pay tho ex
cusc Of cpyaton 10y using IL 10 make pntte cheese
frtr or mutton. Near marke u VIII pay 10 grow oale
rt not nj rorts far distant from cities villages
Near such aud ticy are near most ARMS along tie line
~ Leeniral Railroad it policy for farmers 70 rlow
rc c,ons as find the best market and therefore they
viii not ndhere TO any system Of rotation AS general
inr straw crops more valuable in this State than
com which il an objection ~ nolnding IN any system
If rotation Farmers away from lnrr towns viii have
ia adop, system that depends upon sales Of an
ra prof than grain, and then they viii have ma
nure 70 apply whore II Is most needed. Grass and clio
YER rs general thing pay better taGn wheat and corn
does not pay 10 keep such fields as have seen m the
eastern counties covered with Eulens, where ns IN Co
umbia County the rotation conn., rye, oats bncsvhea
mud where rye is grown I'll il VIII grow 10 more and
lie land is given NJ to mullons.
Mi Van Alstyno If Columbia County denied that
mucns were pant of their rotation. lie bed seen y
grown sixteen years IN succession upon the same rr0uhl
and tho last crop tie best. W get 100 20 100 bush
els of poiatocs per acre and that is good crop. Wo
grow Grass end potatoes TO SELL and rye, wheat clover
and posture and find feeding sheep profitable portion
a cur flaming The cas-. ride 81 the county If mostly
devoted 10 CRAVING and making butter cheese and wool
Some sheep 4 rms the Harlem Railroad hayebcen
turned into hay fans In consequence OF the high price
mi lay In NcW.York and facilities Of transportation
As 10 tie best mode Of applying manure should sec
ord the propo lion of MT. Robinson iOI that IL accord
ing to tie system OF Mature - ,
ION George Geddes-I have heard good deal
about following the systems Of Nature, and that We
should apply manrre on the surface. because that Il
whore the leaves Deposited by Nature. Bui these
roasouers forget that Nnrie never po"s nc system
lie reason given that il is according 10 Nature IN u
MI wnlra,h Of St. Lawrence County said. expert
once teaches me 20 apply NY manure "a the surface. IL
iso teaches me not 10 manure fresh by compost
ing il xiii tie seeds Of weeds. which applied fresh
vla tcep H., land very foul In places there is
as much weight ~ ihstes Crass and In other places
,-hi,o daisies ore equally thick In such places tie
manure should never be used N fresh state Rotten
manure apqy to grass or UPON plowed land ana
cultivate n =. 1 think manure tMen! hie PEI cent
Tie Hor. T. c. Peters said lie wanted to boar from
InngIsnnd farmer % 20 The peculiar mode Of mGruing
,rs hy WAich TIE rtiit' ~ the coil wa lel up to
fpi RI point ~ De- Ands ty statistics that tho average
,rd o! Wlca, Aai Island Is eight bushels Al acre
rurc tan tie general average II The State, ard the
,crarc Of com + also larger What IN tic sysirm q
rrrlrirr manure there, see nr Cox a Long Island
frncr ~ tic ..iniy q Oyster Bay believe IS pee
cIt. lct us lcaf lron i.m
Mp TrfI.fNt iAl ~ fi'fA OF hli. iNF ifNhl' -
To fgscaL i upon wheat stlhhe and pop IL in nhou.
fvc wng0n loads of city manure from hoie stables
per acre az cost II sgy 80. ard our wheat cop j.
Dam. 30 ir. 10 rrr acre hrt rHln ndTartnges fsan
.fonanrro ln future crols cs We follow wAeli VIE
Grass tUn o. ir,c years. ur a. Ing ~ u produces sWo
or dire tar. pCr GCrc which We fc IN Scwi o!si and
.lra We pasture the Land couple 81 year. and ih'n
tom BE fod .ad iaui cora. h ID nrfc some I-ru
or rad toaTss ,fv manure on The 81 IN Winter ,rd
turn !, under SIi1r Tor com and niso nil! u T. ne
I'll! l.t Dc Yields Vcfy well without q .. We husband
r,rrurc IN piles and m,nsi everything wiz II ih-i
sin Increase bril- md qu.uiiy We often 10 ie"'t-
,a axe away tls ce offlcl Garth ana fo4s tai az"
nclrnliniod 20 mix viii the compost, nrd We aFe n
e weeds uuc. cic ilAt 80 can a. ~ cor t!'i' 1. oi
ceiling hoy Sc miss make lannLre flo!a every i's'!D'
Frof Nash sad ilai Long Island farmer. by rrc,i
sranfitrs ~ ific,cd aslos fiom W,sicrn hcE-i ok
md il,Y n'.0 uss ro-i e.an'lfy u sA ard roanr'e
lr iuaLlrc fad Do knows oae Tat Iur-nc> llni t's
IN TIT b. gc's more fro - acTcs tan IL iofrcf
on ugr did l!om GO lrc4Btirr 81, - .
n. Gov t4id fhait.s "mUfs bcnfcfs' Nn fitf -
fab thri Long Island farmers hlc ioFrci. r.rl ~ ~
teallyely o. manure have become o. i,l1l.' - OF
fraurf sfnrtTs tkai fam - cannot OF ~ q tff ton
--,iou.h do usc tac ih eaano made =! Gi4neiAs
Ito refuse amer o1ffaciirs tie 81.
soion Ro'infon-And 'hAi r'fi,e Is worts nsAr'T %
much a. tie lll hs'ufe satracttg q" Oh 70 Ia %
mt l.,tlc waite vhca ailAcd III to usui4 va! 81 -
tsh....-- ,. 10 NJ glaro
VS. it, e1if,rry oacnsi's oddf lis Il ,,e o .aeio
rios 10 Ao!..be, AID orca.es is.laicc es.s' ihc .a
Tfs Hon. Geo-s, Gcilet-r havc row le,r--a WV
lie farmers 81 lie eastern counties snk ~ .uth Hl
manure IL L. i,csrsc they eel lg ~ t.
rn ard - course usi cari manure o. ficr 81 az Il
rcfse o. 60 "A acre to 9: 20 lrslca II AZ & IL
1nondara C0arty. lnoE fafucrs vlo elus ono 90
Two hundred busaes ol grain aud oui ~ IlA' Of ~
ycar AID resor sc any 81 10 fcoa.lg al q ti.cA 90
make animals butter aud cheese fr sale That L. a.
no tie irrtibiy II TIE 1ol q an indefinite erieHt !
k.ov farmer vlo could have 700 tis - ore ic1f TT
more than rs shcep g. which Dc ed would ID ~ IT,
he ~Yrng Yet that i-4a AAcw tAa u I. ls rot god
ecan'ry 10 sei T. hay b tie coursc SO rarsre cor
farms are growing better every ,ear. would 10,
haul manure % nue fHr al TIC adfnAtares fh'Lll
gain Irrffr 90 Keep ~ hrd ricA ufh ~" nhf
clover and sfoy slDat barley atd eats ~ saIo J
know 0ls.eflc, tlai carrn; teA iifr manure De-
cause frm,rs can tc~p their IND fict clcaffr tan
hauling nlaAufc. certainly. ntlcy lad - Iay 60 an
acre lid ce. ouly - bushels ~ wheat IN rt.rn my
farm TIA, 'e4' only 'Ae gfa.n tna lr-if
such farms Ia orr ser;ion average g. BUSHES
u barley. or - bushels II wheai Ier acre 1
lare snch land that never lad lnad - stable uarurc
.prcsd upon IL Have sno'is TIA. vii pr'tuce y tors
81 hay per acre iAt NJ lclt W g. Ills fn 'f!riiy
by Me doppines fshcep Which always fcioi ~ diy
pnee,. Do lot ander'iald shy Lonr !.lAad iaT.4'n
nd ~ good economy to by ciy mature - g. load
when 1t 10 hLf stfes. oy ooluTed ~ Ito uilte sd
horse dropprgs /! lie hoi Any more valuable iof
manure than IL was ben u va hauled 10 te cy To- "
coored can prove g. the satisfaction - any reason
sile ~ AL that there 10 actually more manure ~ m acre
II ooyoy sod tsn IN any twelve wagon Dads - ely
manure. In making the corpArison between oar ion'
~ ranuslng and that ~ The Long bland farmers an
Glad that We nfo 30 fortunate t. he ~ far
from CITY manure that cannot bc tempted 10
ptucAns TIE .tgf. 1 Jont believe any mrmeT
can .uooeed unless 10 n.nn u 'cfftsihinlns ~
10 keeping up Long Island farms with Mcriefu Now
York ashes that day has gone by. ITO salt mAiers are
bun coal and the wood ia becoming soaroe and Uhos
will be too dear. The people vlo have depended upon
nsl~t had better begin 10 lorb Up tusiiuics As 10
| "husbaLdng mai ufe " DOM believe In IL i would
.frend ma are ON tho surface late In Autumn. would
Iife 10 know how best 10 keep II over Summer.
Mr. Harris editor ~ Gsn,s'o Far,se) snid In antwcr
10 question 81 Nj Gcddes about tho relative vnluc u.
clover crop AID stable manure, that thr0e tons OF
clover Lag contained tho same quantity q. nitrogen
QaOlis a. twelve tuns ~ ordinary farlvard manure
ard ~ nitrogen II tie basis 81 calculation o. manure
rue. 1t could easily be calculated which would bs tie
most economical syftom of manufing
Mir Waba Of Oswogo said that he prefers 20 apply
II an manure IN spring spread on Dnd worked into The