Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1863-03-12

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unreRdly to tie stakeholder; tho other hand slave
ders complained that their gh inter cred with.
their slaves iuduc TO abscnnd and protected vi bin tue
lines. These comp ANTS numerous loud and dep
and were serious annoyance 10 him AMI embar asing 10
III progress OF thu that it kept alive spirit hos lie
to the in The States repre- ened strength
ened tie hopes of the Conf taat at day the
Border States would unite with then, AM thus ted to
polong the and he OF nou that if this reso u
on should be adopted by Congress aud accepted by our
States these irritation and those hopes would b.
removed and more would be accomplish towards short
enng The than could BIO hoped from the vic
tory achieved by Union arms that he made This PROPOSE
ton in good faith aud desired it 10 be accepted II al ALL
voluntarily and in The patriotic spirit in which 10
was made; that emancipation subj exclusively
under the control of he Sa and must De adopted or
rejected by each for ITSELF that he did not elm nor had
this Government any right to coerce them for that pur
pose that such part of bis pur ose IN maxi This
popos and he wished it to be 30 clearly unders God;
That h. did not expect then be prepared To give him
r, but h. hoped would take the subject Into
serious nsd- alton conter with another aud then
take such felt duty aud the interests Of
our constituents r gu red OF US.
Mr. NOEL, of Missouri said that in his State slavery
WIS not considered perman mt institution; ttat natural
hen in operation which would, at no distant
day extnguish it, aud he cid thiuk that this PROPOSE
pn necessary FIR that State; and bes des that he
and h friends i,t sol citus tie message account
If the constructions VIII CHI the luton aud
sage had received. The New York Tribune was for It,
aud understood it t. that must accept gradus
according TO the plan or get some
thing worse.
quarrel with the New York Tbuoe bfore the right time
came he hoped to have do it; he would not
ucpote events. In respect to emancipation IN Ml'sour,
hs sid that what had been observed by Mr NOEL was
probably true bur tho operation Of these natural
had not prevented the irritating contact to which he hal
referred destroyed the hpes OF the Coufrderates that
Missouri would ut time range hersrf al ngsije OF
them, which in his judgment the ssags If thi resolution
by Congress and its acceptance by Missouri would accom-
pli.h.
Mr. CRIsFIELD of Mary land, asked what would be the
G o.
aud des know if the President looked any policy
beyond the acc, ptance rejection Of his &C eme.
The PRESIDENT replied that he hai no designs beyond
the nc ion of the States this particular subj ct He
shou men their refusal to accept il, but he had de-
tgns beyond their refusal Off
Mr. MENZIEs, OF KeLtucky inquired if the President
the ught there any power except in the States hem
Sci res 10 carry out his scheme of emancipation.
Tire PRESIDENT replied he thought there not and.
ding To The struc Of Government there could
not be- He then went off INTO course of remark not
qua, ing the foregoing caroton mat=ralto be
peaied TO q just undeIs standing OF his mea'ig.
Mr. CRIsfIELD aii he not think tue people Of
MARYLAND look I'd up,n slavery as permauent in
he did not know that they would b. very reluctant t.
give it provision made to meet the los. and they
could BIZ rid If the but they did not like to be coerced
into patton eli her by the direct action of the Gov
ernm.nt or by ndrecon through the patton OF
the slaves OF this District the cobfc on of southern
proper as threatened and he thought be ore they
would mt TO consider this proposition they would
quire be informed on these points
ha PRESIDENT rep'i-d that " unless he expelled
Inc OF " the Con eltrats ne s90ud
occupy that house for three years and long he
there Marya bad nothing to fear either for her
enibties her Interests the points referred to-"
Mr. lRIsFIELD imm at-ly added: :" Mr.. President,
if what you say could be heard by tn people If Mary
lani they would consider Jour proposition with much
better feel ns Than fear without it they would be
ind To do"
The President. THAT (mesning a publication of
what be saic viii not do it would force ito quar-
rel before the proper time " and again minimizing he
had 4 re DONE that quarrel VITA the " Gre ley ac
ifpppu diuUh .s n hsf dnat
ter It before the proper Time ncr at all If 1t coull Do
avoided
Gov. WICKLIFFE, of Kentucky then asked him respect.
ing the constitutional ty Of his scheme.
Tue PRESIDENT rep led . A. you may suppose, have
considered that; and the proposition submitted does
not encounter aay constitutional difficulty. 1t proposes
Simply 10 coopeat. with any State by giving such State
pecuniay aid aud he ught that the resolution, pro-
posed by would be considered rather the express
son Of sentintnt than as involving any constitutional
question"
Mr. HALL of Missouri thought that if this propo,i ion
adopted at ALL it should be by the votes of the Free
States, and come proportion from them TO the
States Offering htm iuducemf ut to put aside his
jet OF dscord that IL ugh not To be expected that
brs representing saveholdng constituencies should de.
ut once and in advance of any proposition them
for the emancipation OF slavery.
TIE PRESIDENT said he and felt the force OF this
OBJ -con 1t fearful responsibility. and every gen
H. man must do as he thought best; that he did know
how his scheme was received by the members from the
Free States of them had spoken him and received
1t kind but for the most part they and
chary we had BEEN and he Jud not tell how they would
vote And IN reply 10 some expression OF Mr.. Hall to
his own opinion in favor of slavery the President said he
did not pretend to disguise his anavery feeling; that
he thought it wrong and should continue TO thuk
but that not the Question had deal with now
Slavery existed, and tnat to- we'll by the of the
North as OF the South and in scheme to get rid Of it
the North, es well the South morally bound TO do
ITS full aud equal share He thought the institution wrong
and ought have existed but yet he rec0gns
n, rights If property ~hica had grown # it, aud
w"ull respect those rights fully as similar rights any
other property that property exist, and does
legally exist He thought such Law wrong, but the
yhs OF pro- erty re.utrg be re,pec ed; he would
got rid Of the odous law not by violating the gt but by
encouatns the proposition aud o.Iing inducements
give it up,
Here the interview, far this subject Is concerned
terminated by Mr.. CHITTENDES assuring the President
that whatever might be final action, all thought
him ley moved BY high pat ism and sincere devotion
10 the happiness and glory Of his country; aud with tht
nvctlon We shoul consider respectfully the important
suggestions he hid made.
After rome conversation on the current wsr news we
retired, and Immediately proceeded to my room aud
WrJte out this paper. j. w. CRisFlELD
We present at the interview described 10 the fore
going paper Of Mr. Crs6 and we certify that ths sub
STAGE Of what pa-sed the occasion in pper faith
fully and fully gwen J. w MENzIEs,
r MALLORY
IL GRIDER,
j. CRlrTENDEN,
VIM HALL,
@. L. l.. LEAKy,
MARCH 10, 1882. john w. NOEL