The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1863-02-11
GRAND DEMOCRATIC RALLY.
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Immense Meeting at the Young Mems
Democratic Headquarters.
John Van Buren, on the Govern
ment and the War.
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His Project for a New Admit
nistratiOn.
Peace with the South Impossible by
Conventions.
Popular Enthusiasm for Two
Heroes OF the War.
+, Cheers for Mcclellan and Fitz
John Porter.
NO FOREIGN INTERVENTION,
&C., &C., &c.
Peace with the South Impossible by
Conventions.
Popular Enthusiasm for Two
Heroes Of the War.
NO FOREIGN INTERVENTION,
Sc, &C., &c.

Tbe Young Mons Union Democratic headquarters was
deusey crowded last eveningthe occasion being the de-
hyery OF lecture by ths Hon. John Van Buren, the
Rise and Progress or the Democratic Party.
The lecturer did not until long past eight O'Clock
and tho demonstrations Of the democracy in tho
time were not OF the quie,es kind
Eventually Mr.. Van Buren, arrived and introduced
by Mr.. Luke r. Cozans president Of the association
Hen. Jons VAN BUREN, then came forward amid
shusiastc applause. He said
GENTLEMEN DEMOCRATIC UNION AssouAroN-O
last Saturday, as was starting from my Office in the
afternoon, about tho usual no Of going homo under
stood that II expected OF this society have .
dress from tho Hon. Mr. Care this evening; but that
they had been disappointed IN that speaker consequently
that they without any to address you this
occasion. They desired to attend hore perhaps,
for the purpose OF delivering address, but for the
pose OF making apology, and while doing that 10
make some suggestions to you with reference " public
Association, no looked upon them conducive OF
great benefit 70 the conservative who originated IT,
The editor Of the Ebunc( H. OF course, the
fountain Of oil northumberland aughierl-in the
State. stated the 25th OF September just after the
nomination or Wadsworth for Governor, .that General
Wadsworth WIS nominated on tho first ballot by one
hundred and twenty votes Dix and eighty eight
all. Now VIC think that tells the whole ssLSy. Tho
Presidents proclamation OF emancipation just in
time receive this recognition sanctioned by tho know
ledge OF that overwhelming vote on man tor Governor
xad devoted himself entirely since tho war began With
out peradventurr TO the service Of the country
while be believed IL saving the Union at all hazards and
oonquerng peace permanently unbrokon. There III DO
. little formality In eecng imdsughter but he 10
1ss certain TO be put through by 600 votes az least
that November ccnes the month after this" CAugh
ter.) After describing the perfection q Tremain,
candidate the ticket, the Tribune adds
IL and ecroa sonns weeks
after that when the canvass proceeded the editor OF tho
tribune said"Evory DAY increases the supporters OF
douby certain The assurance of large MAJORITY IN the
State" Thus did Greeley write for the people OF Indiana,
same day and who would not probably hear tho result Of
election before the vote aksn unless through tho
dtstrus; New York-she does aud will do
serve IT, That 10 the ruest statement Greeley ever
made. (Iaushtcr.) Tho Tribune said that wadsworth
of tho most popular in The state but that
.he not well known in the city. Why this so
he (Mr. Van BUREN, knew for General wadsworth
had lived here six or seven yeas, nnd the gentle.
who against him lived in tho cen
trs OF tina S,ato-(obesrs)-and that in the centre
Genersl wadswortn came here and attended meeting
just before the election and tho Collector Of your port
Ar. Hiram Bsrney-tgroans and hisscs--ccmc forward
the platform and called to the officers Of Custom
House 10 the u give three cheers for Govern.
%csuns sas Wadsworh had been ~ the battle e Da
fought July and that therefore no had been
u september. 1862, in coming from the war daughter
And this So that he had just como
from Bull run, surely he o., bad bad, no right to
(Paprrous applause succeeded of Mcclellan
At that and since II announced to that
Br,gadier General wadsworth was going 10 the 'front.'
nothing that restrained his npltence from engaging tho
enemy except the necessity Of attending TO the
~ this state (langhtcr) and when the people OF New
York, being always for the war, thought unwise 10
take so valuable officer from the army renewed
raj inference that he would make his way to the
front the polls closed and when read IN the
3aper that unbeknown 70 rs be had passed through
this town and actually at Geneseo anced he had
mistaken the road but soou when unfortunately
army assumed northern direction and retreatcd
from fredericksburg that by staying In WASHINGTON he
actually
went say that there extraordinary difference
in Nhe democratic character this respect Tor when
they a canvass with a leader the result
OF the campaign, matter what IL might be ala ays
enearcd 20 them the candidate whom they had selected
their standard bearer. II he successful the great
the people took for granted having confidence
in him before they nominated him, that he would dis
charge the duties OF his Office ns he should do he
defeated they invariably rushed 10 him TO what
Dc done 10 the way OF sympathy Kindness and support
under the modification, greater or Less ~ always was
OF political defeat He fhr Van Buren, said General
Wadsworths friends,-"Aint you going "a scrc,ade
him,' II for him 10 dictate to his political oppo
nens what course they should prsue but he remember
ed in the great battle Of 1870 after the Presidential
ton tnat year, when citizen Of New York was a candi
date for the Presidency and deeatei-a IL then
supposed perhaps inaily, IL afterwards proved un
doubtedly so--thc warmest reception Of his life the
one that ths democrats OF the city and county Of New
York extended TO him when he landed az Castle
Garden Through his whole life the thing that
produced the strongest impression upon him and
which he always referred to with the greatest
PRIDE and pleasure, was the reception given 10 him
81 the city aud county OF New York in thai stormy and
tempctuous day when he returned from Washington de
ieatod 81 proved ,fereyo, Cheers for Martin Van
ing past campaigns but II somewhat with reference
the future that they were assembled that OCCASION
1t proper for him TO call their attention 10 Tho
condition Of the country and TO make somo Suggestions
purely for himself in regard to what be supposed was
his duty do. the habit OF his life TO advise
other people dictate TO them what proper for
them to DO, his own relations 10 the politics Of this
wsre s ~ a. eve es . b. na, cam
to do consistently with other engagements, and there
few engagements that ever stood 10 tho OF his
being actively engaged In political campaign u any par
tcusr Importance But when polls closed hs closed
because be never had been and God
would be- cand date for any political ooe After cleo
he had become, ike most People private citizen He
depended upon the pbc men elected TO ofce 10 sustain
The that he advocated II they did he was
very happy, and II they did not be exered himself TO
turn thctn out when their terms expired He
tive supporter OF oyernor Seymour al the last election
although lie never belonged 70 the division OF the
denocratie party with which Governor Seymour was
laent1ed Tic Lr. Van Buren) always acted with silas
Michael Hoffman while Governor ssymour was iderraad
win Governor Marcy and Mr.. Corning In other words
Va RIren) vas "A Now York democrat Coyerror Asy
VS. hunter" while no 1.-THE speakerl was an
urauiloea ~ ~, r nc mentioned this because
~ tho REMARKS ne wss gong 70 mako would be very
tor people out Of the state ascrbe views ne
ENTERTAINED y other psopie Than himself He alluded 10
massage seerg u "a the newspapers and the a,st
nowiea s s - n,a Toe appointment.
enei With So much credit and 70 much bono1
tis various places asgned o them He never had ,ha
pcssIre seeing hearing Cox and vaandigharp WHO
had addressed tho association, that they would IN
f.rsand that in what he had 70 say no spoke for no
body but himself. Having made these introductor re
marks ne asked his hearers look little at the con
dnn q the country and what was the real diihcalty
IN Tor which labOred' lie did not think IL was en-.
iey correct say that slavery the " the
unhappy difficulties into which we were now plunged.
He would be slow 10 believe that an Institution which
had legally and constitutonay existed for eighty years
and which perfectly understood by forefathcrs
al the time 81 the Declaration o. Independence that
vel known whom thew went through the years
bloody struggle Of the Revolution together which
cle,riy appreciated at the time the corsti,Iihr was
adopted aud which had been recognized confirmed aud
sgquiescei M for eighty years since the 5dop
tiou n the constitution, shogd within few mont
nave proved sucn rrecnnclable dGercn
bs.r the slavehodng and the ssveholdug St.