New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-07-27

Il no, desirable the discussion should be continued
are STILL I hops, present to the minds OF honorable
members. l link that no good could ARISE from
debate and a discussion upon the motion OF my hon.
orable and learned friend iioar. hear.] l cauno.
but exuress nv regre, that he and my honorable
friend. tie member for Sunderland, should have
mixed Mp with that we,l-cCDsdered decision al at
tack on my honorable friend, the Understanding
for Foreign Afairs. t. Hear, hear" and "No,
po."I NV honorable friend only performed on FRI
day evening that which he considered to be bis oil
ci,l duty In Consequence OF what Was stated
by NV honorable friend, the member for
Sunderland alter l had spoken. However,
will cay no more upon that SUBJECT. NO"
only hope that tn will be the ast time any MEM
Der Of this House will think his duty to COMMUNE
cate to n Brush House Of Commons-l loud and
long continued cheers that which may have psssed
between huirelf and The sovereign OF foreign
country. Hear, hear. l can really and sincerely
state that ! do not Rean TO impute tue slghtes.
oil me to nv honorable friends. l am persuaded
that they soed with the beat Intentions and accord
Ing to what they thought their duty as members OF
Parliament and for tie good OF the country. But at
tie same time wish 10 impress upon ineir minds,
and upon the minds Of honorable members geher-
ally that the proceeding which they adopted If most
rfegular--to use the ujldest term. Hear, near.
Tnc British Parliament has, ne one OF iS functions
TO receive Messages aud communications from Inc
Sovereign OF the United kingdom. But We
are In 10 relation witn-we nave no Intercourse
any sovereign OF any foreign country-lhear,
hear and, therefore, n IL nos our Junction u re-
ceye communications from any foreign soveregn OF
for III, Cove rnment, unless tuch communications
sro made through tie responsible Ministers oi sne
Crown. Hear. hear. II the Emperor o. ihe
Preach ana the Queen Of England have any COM
IA lnicaton TO maze each other, the Queen Las IN
Embassaaor IN Paris, and tle Emperor bas All I'm
bassador III London; and those Eaoassadors are toe
prCuer organs for such communication. oV'eIelsns
a ..rAFn - md
aud Govern inerts communicate VIVID soVeIeis"e anu
Goyernmsn ts but they do not communicate with
the Leglslatures Of other countries Hear, hear
IL either sovcr,i gn-eitner the Emperor OF tue
French or the Queen vi EaSland-has any s'a'e'
ueut to Communicate TO the world, they nave lieIr
Ministers in their respective Parlameuis TO make
m. announcements and if Parliament be not
sitting. the I'm, error of the French has hs OIL
Gdal journal the h0Aitegr, through which lie
can insure the desired publicity; and although we
have IN iaIs country no corresponding oihtAi oefn'
every one in aware that the Ifers OF tbs country
q, en- for the communication OF any matter when u
is thou. b. derlrsbe rhouid he made known u TIE
pilbIic during the parliamentary recess. near,
h..rI No,hing, therefore, can be more hirt uiaf
tan proceeding oi THIS sor', ana lot thlr oo'ous
r., .rcu-settIng hsiJe ho constitutional obJeetiOD,
which hold 10 be- very grave lbear, hear -iof 'hlS
Obvious reason that wnvu the MILrter for Foreign
hhai-, a. PAus, or Ray IoUle friend NJ The head ol
IN. FOREIGN Office, makes communication ~ the
Government OF another country, tnsI eommnnIch-
ton 10 nude by responsible iDdlvidGal, VINO J.
bound ~ ta.s care that biz statement IL perfectly
accurate, - that no question eau aIlse an 10 Tie
.uiL,utcily or ,he reality OF tho report when lac
nuts forward. BOT the Gaze cannot be the came
" ia re-. afd Ia individuals. Hear. thiuAt nSni,
therefore 10 place upon record, as lar IA statement
nm nj Uou,e cnn do e. thut the proceeding "a qnes-
tom IA utterly Irregular and truri u if On. that
- N never br used precedent for the repetition
OF a ,milar cogg,e. lear hesg. Now, with re-
card NY honorable iiends, do not Lnd TIE isast
tsult win them for Communicating Wild TIE LIN
t.ror o! TIE French upon auy matter on ~bic1
they wished TO clear up their own rine'
Bu, the course they ought then 10 follow -
a, which my Honorable friend the member Tor
S,ud, Rand save lie followed upon naOiher oec~'on
namely, to con. i1uucate 10 LIN IN iheir own nhlo
tb.i which they Lima u cesiAbie tLa' nr s"Vu'"
know NV Louo.ADl. friend the member iOf SaDdof-
ID ssy. AID says very truiy. TIA, be was m COM
mum, alton with he Emperor Of the French danhs
tie i.st three yesfr ul on matters oohheote' W'H
commerce aud navigation. lie rather imphci maj
h- wa. employed BY the GOsenmoui LOT Thai puf-
ro.e 1905 taat II not exactly The Csc. Hear, hear
| y.lI explain. Nv bOn0.A able mend stated u ~.
that hr was going 10 Pane, and thar BE- thonsni.
from bic knowledge OF commerce AUD hh' l.A'''H'
thai be might lie able TO convey 90 t"e Emperor III
ioun.to OIL Ia. would b. useial 10 lin IN Training 81
AL Grafton Of the bayi ettion code ~ France lie
nude thrt statement to my noble frsnd The Sec G.
tar, Tor forclu Al hfs aud to nyheIf, aad Ne said
We should be very glad II he employed NE tprciai
knowledge for That purpose. We dd hoi, now
Yer ask him to DO hat; be made the ofcr and Nc
s,,snf.d Il: ,ud W. then gave hun letters Il intro-
dpc,ioa 10 Lord Cowlcy IA order IDas bo might DO
I IL II obtain soc,ss 10 tie Emperor. 81 lar wha'
be md Was pef Getty regular, aud founded Oh we'll
considered and wise intention; because my non
friend has = knowie.o OF details winch We do hot
,o.,.,, md from lie practical acquaintance nHh
u sulie., 10 could give information which
I'M bs very useiul TO the Emperor u 'be French
NJ devisiug II new maritime code. But my
hon friend went TO sny that, having returned ~
TIN. country he offered ~ make Communication OF
the past OF tie EMPEROR 10 NY no'e iIis"d, 'he
s,It.ry Tor Foreign Affairs. aud to myself, and he
slnd,o 10 n letter written by ne, from tho county,
1 l.l,y. in answer 20 that otter. l hive not re-
fe-hed NV Lic mOry by looking A. that letter, but
lays no dou.t th.I there STAYED That Which now
teel namely that II lie Emperor, III coneequebce Of
Information gwen tD hinby my honorable Trend had
nv proposAl 90 make to the British boverDmou,,
NAT nrou,ai ca Ut 10 come through sOnc reslousbie
channel either through the Emperors EmDasssdor
herr or urngu our LmtAtsador It PAIis. III Is BOT
tbe halt Of tue Enyt,n Government TO carry Oh
what may be called q doubl. diplomacy. Hear,
hear.l We have pnblic anu 0hc.hl Vishhr iof com
touuica tn WIN foreign Governments ahd ,ouhir re,
aud | tn.uk II Ligrly Objectionable 10 hhye u
puys,o communication mace 10 individuals WITH
,esrect TO matters which ought 10 30 TIE suJec' oi
oa.cal communication. lic"r, hear ibas is VIVA
1 rtaiel-I rust courteOusly-Io my Lonofaolo
f1end and that was tue reason WHY Ihoutn' u
better we should not receive from hin any com
municaton coming from thc Emperor OF The French.
Inere was no dlrconrssoiont aud II was not intend.
ed 10 b. encouragement Of the use'nl eAortions oil
nv honorable friend at PARIS, for the purpose OF IN
fu-irg ID, moe, liberal commercial pTincip lee INTO
lie krench government. No acted siDply upon the
prnciIIo Tat IL is highly Objectionable Tor this
Cove nueDt TO employ private indiylduaJr, however
honorable aud Intelligent, Ia communications win
Foreign Governments Instead OF having these
COMMUNICATIONS conducted through Official o.
vans The care was entirely diilcfeut
ION that OF my honorable friend tho