The New York herald., 1863-07-26

ror on any matter which they think they ought 10 do
my honorable friend the member for Sunderland said
ne followed on former occasion-namey, that
~ @ 70 Lord Cowley that which had been
known 70 the government. Ny honorable friend, the
member for sunderland said, very truly he had been In
last three years on subjects connected with
and navigation He rather implied that he was employed
not exactly the "a laugh and Hear hear ~ The
honorable member stated was going TO Paris
thought from ms commercial knowledge and his acquain
ance Win haVgaton that he might be able to convey to
the Emperor Information which might be useful TO
him as . foundation for his He stated that to
me and 70 my noble friend at the head OF the Foreign o.
fee and we said, We should be very glad that you
should do that" We did not ask him 10 do it He or
ama we 20 we gave him an
cure access to the Emperor for that purpose SO far
what he did was perfectly regular, well considered
and founded on the best intentions OF course my
honorable friend has information which we have
not in the same detail, and from his own practi-
TO the Emperor with a view 70 the framing OF future
legislation on the French Maritime Code. But then my
aonoraSe friend went On 70 say that having 70
friend and myself the result Of his communications with
the Emperor, and that he got letter from me, which
was written think, from the country As far as Lean
recOlect, for have not refreshed my memory by look
ing at that letter, have no doubt that what then
stated what state now, viz that the Emperor OF
the French, consequence Of the representations and
information laid before him by my honorable friend,
mad any proposal 70 make 70 the British govern
sibe channel either through the Emperors ambassador
here ora th rough AMBASSADOR at Paris It not the
habit OF the English government TO carry what may be
called double diplomacy. (Hear hear.) We have pub
lio and official organs OF communication with foreign
Powers and think II highly obectonable 70 haze pr.
touching those matters which ought to be the subject OF
official communications That what stated trust
courteousy to my honorable friend and that wahe
son why thought 1t better that should not receive
any communication coming from the Emperor through
him. / did not intend to offer any disoouragement
the useful exertOus friend
TO nfuse liberal principles into the French govern
ment ! simply meant TO say that II is highly objec
tionabc for her Majesys government To be employing
private persons however honorable intelligent in
ryiog on communications with foreign governments in
mate organs. This is entirely different from that
OF my honorable iriend the member for Rochdae,
because he employed by tho government to
negotiate in concert with ambassador Paris and,
although he was too high minded to receive any actual
appointment or salary he was clearly diplomatic agent
employed specifically by the government for q special
purpose My honorable friend the member for Sunder-
land did not hold that character He private gen.
teman going Paris to give information which pcs
sessed in eminent degree and which would be very
useful; but he Was not employed by the government;
ana therefore Thought and my noble friend also
ward and forward communications between her Majes-
ys and the Emperor OF the French through
cussion might end here. (iIear, hear.) think my
honorable and learned friend Is right in the decision
has taken and trust we shall have no further debate
by my honorable friends. My honorable friend said
that II the Emperor had thought him busy body the
next time he Knocked at the door Of the Tuerles his
Majesty might say, "Not at home" "a laugh.) But
think that these discussions this House are MT en-
ee and Whose opgio and iniornation mioM really Dc
found very useful. (''Hear, hear. . and laughter,
The O'DoNoGHUE wished, before the motion with
drawn TO enter his humble Iut emphatic protest against
he ptrx Of Ko,ty 10 Amevc0 IN Which the honorable and
earNd mener tr Shceids motion had been conceird,
and also TO free himself from any possible mpuaton Of
sharing in the smallest degree in the vindicve feelings
which had manestiy taken possession Of that honorable
America, both North and South. very differ
ent from those OF the honorable and learned gentleman
sssss sssss s:s sss e e .ay on a ens
he majority cf s couryen, that they entertained stmi
lar feelings o'oords Ameyicc, toA North and South cNp,
no.') There might be difference OF optimism; he had
stated his And he must say he did not thnkhey would
far forget what they owed 10 America
oss Ike rsoo"so e s idpsee o. Ms sSa So ,el
in reality sought By reco0nisna the South, to take the
surea and safest mans W striking deadly boc at the
greatness and prosperity of Amcrcd. (lear hear) He
should say enhs occasion but that be sorry
tho mot OF the honorable and learned gentleman had
hear.) Though his mathes leaned more the North
than to the South simply because the object of the
however blythe hisn,ph Of e SoaM ne Un,sn should ):
restored he coutd equally rejoice corng that Of the
greatest cdame that could befal no, only America, but
The ,oorid, had ben drssted QIear hcar.)
Mr. WHlrEsIDE thought that no country In Europe had
more interest IN Ire discussion OF this SUB ect han s'and
he could Gce shoon that thousands of her had
BEN slaughtered ia the contest 9oiny America,
and for no, their but owing OF
energy on the part Of her Majesty administration,
stated that al tie present the subjects of the Queen
beng enlisted 10 n that frdricidl tcur lie
lid not object TO the withdrawal Of the motion he
lid not think there any room Tor the oc
ason seeing that the Chirccor OF the xchequer stated
many months ago, as plainly as he could speak,
hat The % South lad shown al The qualities y a great
.atoa. The government Of America complained Of
hat statement as breach Of the laws OF neutrality
,nt could be no reflection on any member 10
mink that the South was nation now, when the most
eminent member representing her Majesty's govern.
nent, making capital for the Northern States pro-
aimed the greatness the south in October last what
'ver might be the opinion 0f the government now.
Hear, hear)
Mr.. NKwnEcArE exp cssed his thanks to the noble
discount at the head OF her Majesys govesnment for
,avhg at once warned and guarded the House
cpetition of those irregular proceedings in which
members had engaged with the sovereign Of foreign
state. Such proceedings not only In dcrogation OF
he prerogatve OF the crown, but might lead grave
complications between the two countries
The order Of the day for resung he adjourned dela,e
ods then discharged, and the motion rithdraioa.
British Subjects ana the Confederate
Army.
In the House OF Commons on the 10th inst Mr. BLAKE
aid, according to information with which he had been
furnished, Mr.. r. Redmond Belsham, British subject
residing at Montgomery In the State of Alabama was ip
april last conscrbed for service in the Confederate army
,ut he refused TO serve He then thrown into the
water and as often as his head rose above he asked
would no serve. lie declined the bonor-(a laugh)-but
inay, In order TO save his life. consented 10 serve
inder protest. His friends represented 10 Macsty's
subjected aud Mr.. Moore Consul at Richmond
directed 20 bring the matter before the
authorities The consequence that Mr. Bclsham
sent back 70 Montgomery 10 have his case investigated
Ind his tMr. Bakes) object ascertain what
had become Of him laugh land whether there was any
becicn state the substance whatever commun
ions had been received from Lord Lyons on the subject
Mr. IAyARD said the had been brought undcr the
notice OF her Majestys Government but the honorable
hat the subject brought 10 the notice OF the Con
ederate authorities nnder the direction OF Lord Lyons