Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1863-11-06


NJ Chandler said no offered the amendment because
wctd VA deienoo of h. II this proposal strikes out the
vital rriucipe n the bill he hoped he bin would not
pass. Bot II was not the vitality ~ the bill The bill
proposes many good and necessary measures. He was
IN favor Of u but that No why he thould
swallow Ct whole.
lie did not hink that the Young men who are fighting
our battles, should bs the ones pay the expenses II
any distinction ~ Is DC made basis " taxation
IN this case, he thought ought 10 be that those whose
age eNempts them should be the 10 pay. II the
young men take the responsibility to enter the active
service they DO enough.
Ie said that he unwitrngy in his remarks the other
day blended with this subject remarks with reference 20
reducing the force which this bill provides When that
subject should properly Up, there would be sui'
Gent opportunity for him TO suggest whatever ne hau 10
say on that point
Mr Deaus said he wa, in favor Of an active militia
system, and he thought it ought to be supported ne
would favor an amendment 90 this bill which would make
the tax payers NJ the state pay fifty cents annually TO
supper, The militia. lie would like this better than the
proposition in the h the ordinary method 81 sup.
port But Il he was icit to choose between me ou and
the proposed Amendment he should favor thc latter. II
man has passed the age Of liability TO military service
he yet ought 10 be willing 10 contribute 60 me suppoft o
an active militia lie has an interest IN IT, II would be-
unjust for portion of c men Of the state TO bear The
burdens Of the whole Ncsh0uld not be too tenacious
of our opinions II they stand in the way Of an or
Ranizauon The history Of the past and cSgenoes Of
the present alike demand thai the object should be
compshed Il Il will be better that portion should do
h. very we'll But do h IN some way. That is the de-.
toand Of the people,
he thought IL would be supported better to have this
direct tax, than TO have it doue In the usual way on
] tho grand list
Mr. Bruce Of Pomiro, snd hr was no more in favor Of
The amendment than he had been before He could mot
bee the injustice IN making those who never have done
and never Will do anything 10 help The country pay ts
sx IL seemed 70 him thai those men who ave lcf 10
the militia after the quota Of the State now called
for shall have gone the ard after The active mi
a Of the state shall have been organized ought To be-
the very ones TO be taxed Does it seem unjust These
times Burdens fall men. and they must
bear them u any men suitable to he 1.-THE enrolled
militia are left after the many calls Of the government
and that which the bill proposes to make they ought to
/ be taxed. and be made to support the rest
II gentlemen, As has been suggested, are anxious 10
be allowed TO pay their share Of taxes ia the military
c them aid the disabled soldiers with which the State is
fucd
Mr pcrro Of Berlin Thought that the tax 10 support
/ thc militia should be raised on the grand list.
Mt Wilson " Bakersfield, said his bill would burden
the poor men There was large number liable to be
called into service and yetmade pay for an institution
which blessed other classes almost solely The portion
which is best able To support the mim are lcf out by
the bill entirely. IL there any good why taxation
for tbs purpose should be levied on any dhcfent pfn
ciple ihau ordinary taxation lie ihoughtnot
Mr. Dorr called for the yeas aud nays on the motion
st-ike out The yeas wefs l3J, and the nays7; so
the amendment was made.
Mr. Dou moved to amend section 40 so to provide
that the comm ndernchf shall ask the U. s Govern.
ment to furnish the militia with Mr DIir stated
uish II the government to dos So This would so reduce
the expense OF the militia that ought TO ubJe to
! an active gaHizat0n.
NJ Woodward inquired Of Mr. Dor how much this
a
Mr. Dor raied that the ans would cost twelve
dollars apiece and IL there four thousand Of them
the expense would be $4,000 Deduct that from the
Estimated expense ot the organization oi the militia and
] the balance would be the saving
The amendment was agreed 10.
Mr. Chandler moved 90 amend sec u by striking out
TIE word atty and Inserting in lieu thereof the words
] ''twenty- -four
Mr. Dorr said that the bill was made upon the basis
hatn aay fur her calls for should be made by the
General Government they would be for less than
300 600 men and that AFTER we had sent out our oiotn
1efff
practical purposes and should not have 10 be TO the fur
thet expense q getting up otaly new active militia
The amendment would leave odd organization % two
oompanes. and, that we'll as other a couats. he
thought il ought not 10 be adopted
MrChandlei thought that all the active militia that is
now demanded was about two regiments. lie vas not
tenacious about the number twenty four IN he amend
ment but he had calculated that out o. tventyiuur cons
paniys should raise about two regiments Mr. Chaud
Ter asked leave, which granted TO Withdraw the
amer dment, and proposed 70 am nd by striking out
the wo DIS "hfy companies OF eighty three me-" aud
insert in lieu thereof twenty companies e one hundred
and one "
Mr. Bruce Of Pomfrst opposed it, on the ground that
II would make the rendezvous Of companies too TAR
apart 70 have 80 small fire..
MIR Wilson Of Bakersfield moved to amend by making
il thirty comp auics instead Of twenty.
Mr. Deanc in favor Of that amendment in psrt
but he preferred to have the companies number only
eighy.lhTee men instead Of one hundred and one men
Mr. Wilson then wished 10 alter his motion To amend
so as to make it provide Tor th ry conn apes Of eghy
three men each.
MIR Chandler accepted the amendment
Mr. Miller Of Willsion opposed t. lie opposed the
Till also He could not see The necessity Of organ
ICED active militia.
Mr Fisher u vcrgennes favored the amendment bu,
rather have the oulua bill The committee have rec
commended hfy companies. and they better qualified
70 judge than gou'lem,n who say they do not pretend 10
kng' much about military MATHS
The amendment was sdopted, 9S to II.
The amendment go the bill Mr. Chaudlets,) was then
T uittaro,d to ID to 81.
4 Alr Haskell OF weahcrsdell moved to amend sec 30
{ uy striking uul the VIZ " uuliotus "
. lie thought $40 could dispense with Uniforms and
/ thtreby save goat eEl rnse
Mr. Dorr said # we were TO have an organization a,
an he thought IL ought be- regular II YOU wish to
make an organization what 1t ought 10 be, do fan to
uniform the militia. 1t 10 The experience OF military
men that uniforms are almost Indispensable
hr Haskell said he had formerly en acquainted witt
the militia organizations Of the eope ia the south 90
They were uniformed save IN the cities, and ye
there never was more ell ient militia
Mr. Bruce thought that the militia ought to be uui
formed IL Is possible the militia nigh be called int'
the United States service. Then, government @oui,
pay for the uniforms. But If il never should be called
( it ought 20 be uniformed
Mr. AlDee # Ludlow said that the companies ought
for the sake OF discipline, to be uniformed 1t th
uniformed militia OF Massachusetts that FIRST poude,
10 the can Of The couu-ry when the var broke out lie
nothing he omitted TO make the militia effective.
Mo bolph Of Warren said Il the ORGANIZATION 10
show, hc would say uniform them. But they were
real purpose then all the expense possible
; Mr. Deaue moved that the bill and amendment be 81
, dgred to lie, agreed t..
Mr. PeLnock Of Moril,town moved 10 suspend so muc
Of rule 10 as requ res motion 10 reconsider TO be mad
before the close Of the day Of SEXUAL session ar
that viii the tax II, for the sake Of pal
tcular case agreed 10.
Mr. Deane then moved to reconsider the vote Of IN
Rouse refusing the 80 TeAdit Of House bill 81 an
movd that the motion be ordered to lie agreed 10
4 On motion Of Mr. Comings Of Greensboro, adjourne,
i TUESDAY, Nov. 3.
SENATE.
Devotional exercises. Reading Of the Scriptures, an
= PRAYER by the Chaplain
The journals Of Friday and Monday we're read an
u approved
% BIS introduced by Mr. Williams, an to orgAni,
, the militia Of the state to the com on printing
BY Mr. Nichols TO incorporate the Rutland eopp,
l. mining compAuYi to com on manufactures.
e Engros5ed BtH-senate bill 81, in amendment TO $,
OF CHI u the general STATUTES, entitled applications
D. the general assembly,
il Mr. SaGrd opposed the bill when Mr. Bichardso
e moved 10 lay the bill upon The table agrt ed to.
T. Of the town Of Reading 20 com finance n l3O 4
claims. II l42, 20 lcgalize the grand st OF tn
town Of Marshheld for 1861 70 com on finance Il "a
I for the preservation Of hsh In tem pond TO gener
e l47 providing Tor recording the names Of N
VT soldiers and officers in the United States service
com on military affairs
Of Rqorts.-By Mr. Beato, for com on manufacture
Re House bill 49, 10 incorporate the Norhded manuactu
ie ing company passed
N Mr. Engesby moved To reconsider the vote by whic
e The third reading Of Senate bl 90 in amendment o. NJ
Is Of eh 6S OF the general statutes entitled Limitation
10 Of action ordered.
:, Mr. Peek favored the motion and briefly advocated Il
ID passage Of the bill.
M y Hord opnoeed the tuotiou n, tbo,,,ht ,ha l.,