Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1863-11-13

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measure have they advised US about They send US
here to act upon judgments, and We ought TO do It
lie was 10 favor Of the bill, and hoped II might not be
dismissed
Mr. Daniels said he should not be opposed the bill II
there could be amendment to ii that t should not
cost the State anything But be felt sdre that II would
Mr. Miller Of Willist1n said he was not opposed to the
object but he could favor the bill union Of cole.
ges would be desirable but would be impracoable, for
it really involved the necessity Of amir Hating one or
" them. 10 carry out the object in the law Of
Congress, this bill goes farther than is Necessary This
bill provides only way Of uniting II the friends
and trustees u the colleges could get together they
might not agree 20 this, The college presidents who
have spoken this question seemed 10 thnk that the
agricultural department might not be particular desira-
bic in the college. Instead of this bill he would favor
proposition to allow two Of the colleges 70 unite II they
pleased but II they did not, then confer the agricultural
department and its appropriation on the other
Ms shaw said he had not heard any objection TO the
bill itself but simply that should delay action on 1t
The question has been before The people whole year
the Governor has urged DO upon us subject demand
ing immediate action and, by meeting held for the
purpose the representatives Of tho colleges aud the peo-
pie have shown that they we're asake to the subject lie
could not zee the policy Of waiting and advocated the
b its merits, and particularly that part which pro.
yidcs for the union u the colleges lie had heslialed
when he reflected that the college w his town might be
taken away bur when be- consulted the interest NJ the
STATE he could hesitate no lgngr II mas oetn srsue1
that the union j. mpracucabc because good share o.
the grants to Middebury college exist in their build
ngs Asa representative Of Burlington. he had hosi-
ed that account because he felt that 20 be strong
Argument IN favor u locating the proposed institution at
Mddlebury. But he believed the good result q be
achitve Is paramount 90 any local considerations. lie
considered the argument that ,hs bill would involve the
State in expense, and denied that such would be the
There should be no delay In 10 atug the land for
while we arc only second now II we wait six months we
may be last II III re VAS danger Of debt or Of running
~ X educaton the state, he should oppose the
bill but there was no danger " either The measure
was desirable in every respect and it was only dangerous
to delay 1t. Tic should not consent, aud would not
dave 10 have his town stand 10 The way Of this measure
II the question for him 10 decide was whether let this
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grand institution for the State whether TO have three
colleges weak aud puny a. present he could buff favor
ihe former, despite all local auaehhent and personal
On motion Of Mr. DELPHI Of Warren, adjourned
MosDAr, Nov. 8.
SENATE.
Retorts.-By Mr. Williams. for manufactures,
40, ~ amendment u CHI 40, Of the general statutes
association for the purpose u building acqueduot
and they may have missones appointed to apprase
the damage to the lands. under the provisions Of the
general statutes
esssrs Stoushton and Stafford opposed the bill.
Mr. Cree favored the bill and read from the reports Of
the supreme court to prove the constitute nay OF tbs
On motion Of Mr. Cree the bill was ordered to lie.
BY Nh Nichols, for military affairs with amend
ment, House bill l6, au'ng State pay TO drafted men
SC Amendment agreed TO and the bill passed
by Mr. Peck, for same committee, against Senate bi
y, pfo'ding fer the payment Of drafted troops, 8.
reading refused
By Mr. Nichols, for com on military affairs, with a
meudment Senate bill 49, in addition TO ch no Of the
general statutes relating the government aud regula
ton Of the militia Amendments agreed to and bill or
dered 20 third fcadug.
By Mr. Keith for same COM f,yoraby on the Joint re-
solution, relating 20 draft adopted
by Mr. PECK, for same com against Ii ll9. 20 amend
oh 10 Of the general statutes relating 10 The militia 81
reading refused.
Third r,ading Of 5H-senatc bill 49, to incorpora
the Union mining eompany passed
SENATE hill SO to incorporate the " State University
and associate colleges &C. being ilr .recial odcr a.
THIS time. taken up and Tie amendments proposed
by the ol the whole agreed 10.
Mr. Bradford opposed the BILL thinking il would be
ns to destroy the three institutions which have beeu
for long ornaments TO the State. &c stated the
obstacles in the way Of Middle ury college, and the
same existed as to Burlington. He read some resolu-
tons which were adopted by the latter in slI setting
forth reasons Why it was impossible for the colleges TO
unite lie vas unwilling 20 pass ths bill against the
will n MIDI tbury aud Of Norwich, but would rather
divide the income among Them for the purpose II
tablishing professorships u Agriculture in each
Mr. Nichols moved 10 indefinitely postpone the bill.
He thought not proper pass such law pres
ent time The colleges do not wish it. We should first
dispose of she land scrip and the amount Of revenue
to be derived lie douutd the estimate II the value OF
the scrip His experience had taught him Il OF public
lands will not be very productive. Ihe Senate ought
not by snap Judgement wipe MiddcbuTy college rom
eNi 'ience. There aie many different heme' fr he
uniting Of the colleges but il pass this bill hastily,
be veutured to say that before the end Of the year,
shall hear great disqualification with the measure The
farmers have the greatest n'esCst IN this measure and
they ought TO be consulted He would he very glad to
have all our colleges united in one great institution and
he hoped this would be done future time, but
not until we have consulted the peopl.
Nj eyens said hat he did not how this bill could
justly be called foFcirg process since unles the col
eges sha by their own will unite before the 18Th Of
ADJUST thus will be void There a reason for haste,
ia that il to locate this land, should do i i'm
mcdiately b., order TO secure the best land. lie had
considerable correspondence with the PRECEDENT Il Brown
University which 10 the uuly University which has tax
any action upon the natter and be- leaned that the
commissioners OF that College thought it OF the
greatest consequence TO attend the matter immediate
Mr. Nichols at the request Of Mr. Soughton withdrew
his notion aud motion Of Mt Stoughton the bin
amended by striking out the words Tue 10Th Of August
next, and inserting IN lieu thereof the lst Of November
On the question OF ordering The bill to third reading.
Mr. Bradford demanded the yeas and nays which were
Yeas.-Messrs Bass, Bean, Child, Cowles Euglesby,
FaTrar, Keh X liam, Lyman, Pollard, Stafford, Stevens,
StoughtoB, WEIGH, Wiitms-l5
Nays-Messrs BOttum, Bradford, Clark Of Bennng-
ton, CLARK Of Rutland, Cree Cushmau, Fish, Holcomo,
Nichols, Peck-lO
So the bill ordered 70 third reading t0-mor ow
morning.
Hou4e BiAs refer sd-l75, to incorporate the Iras-
amendment Of 10 CHI 10 Of the gene al statutes,
titled Of exemption, returned to the Senate fom
the use wish modification Of the proposals Of amend
meut OF the Senate agreed to
- for the aid OF drafted soldiers taken up, the
question being upon the amendment proposed by the
committee.
The bin provides that towns shall be authorized Ia
raise money for the aid Of drafted roops
Mr. Nichols, for the com on military affairs, askei to
withdraw their Amendment which the char ruled out Of
order. The amendment was then disagreed TO.
Mr. Stafford moved 10 strike in the fourth line the
words or may hereafter be " lie opposed to pro-
yding for future draft, and thought II would be bad
! policy for the state 70 discourage volunteering.
Mr. Williams opposed the amendment. We want
men, not money. II we do succeed in raising ouI
quota by VOLUNTEERING, will have draft before the
meeting Of the next legislature and before any further
! act on upon the subject can be taken.
| Mr. Stoughton opposed the amendment. HI thought
that II the State itself pays dollars per month
drafted men, 1t will be unjust TO towns refuse them
| the right TO nay bounlics to he drafted troops.
| Messrs RchardsOn and Clark Of Bennington also
| briefly discussed the amendment
The amendment was rejected, and the bill ordered
20 a third reading.
On the question Of the passage OF the bill Mr. CLARK OF
/ Bennington demanded the yeas and nays which wef
J taken follows
| ieas-Messrs Bass Beau, Beatte, Bottum, Bradford
Clark Of Rutland. Cleveland, Cowe., Cushman Farrar
Fish, Holcbnb, Kellam, Nichols Peck Pollard, Rich
afdson, Stevens Stough'on, Wlams-20
! Nays-Messrs CLARK Of Bennington, Cree. Lyman
! Welch--4
! So the bill passed.
On motion Of Mr. Williams, The Senate adjourned.
| HOUSE
/ Reporfs-By Mr. Eyeris for Of WAYS and means
House i'll authorizing the purchase Of safe for the
Office Of secretary OF state 81 reading ordered.
by Mr. White, for com education, against bill rela
ting TO the distribution Of town school funds 81 reading
refused.
By Mr. Touey for com on the library, IL a. aptopria
ting an addition. sum for the improvement Of the state
/ hhraryi Sd reading ordered
By Mr. DeAne, for com on ways and means, II A. Tela
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