New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-09-21
the STATE FAIR AGRICULTURAL
MEETINGS.


UTICA "Wednesday Sent. &c. 1867.
Tie meeting this evening was quite large be-
IN, held in the Common Council Chamber OF tie e.'y
which ives very councillors and web filed.
The meeting was oYenod Is tie CboiIman. The Hon.
i. Cenger. by review Of wLal was said upon 'N'
question discussed las, evening ratAeas '1e
think review o. exposition Of lis own ."c's upon '"'
crcsion which sppea- 70 he The Iiobg the0iy AcnSe
O. remark a,terua.d made by iir. Geq"'s i"1 '''ua
a. farmers knew more obous O1onoasA farming 'A@N
'J te ce ~ the remarks Of tho Chairman, he sta
fed the question for discussion. - WIZ &c.,,
THE best rotation 81 croi sU-'eu 70 .iio oaiv CON
;,crS of tLe middle ter Of counties u tie state, Oh
fns having at least eight! agre- 81 COCO &lape va
j. j. Thomas cad the Hon 1: Z. Iet'Fs were
named as the Cc.tlemer enNontcd to open the oScns
con urou this question. hut IL W.s Snt,d mat MI
Thomas was not present and taat Nr fcteiS Ina moi
lad sufficient notice % enable lin to prepare az! thHe
suitable for the occasion
Mr.. Peters said that the question was orc that re-
CuTed much statistical Information. Which lie 9au ho
Been able 20 collae. lie SAID that II We connie tA'
question 70 the middle counties. Vii embrace OoN
oaga Cayuga. Cortland. Madison OaNego and Iloi,'
And ia these equities The system void nave 10 DC
varied to suit circuuataucr, q. particular .oclloL te
Cause pal Of tie territory is wheat region and part
dairy region.
Tie Chairman stetcd that Il vas ~ot Intended 70 con
fine Il question % tAc middle col , nlt Vy ~ NY
climatic condition Of th,se CONT 10" .. ilc vS ~,
rou ofthe markets and maAiaing .Ae iciNl'! oi 'Ho
Iasms would be n consideration .. ,.,r
short 900 feet abovc tide tie moss ad 80 4.i eSNa
lion is equal 10 degree 0 ii, Zee, "lt s.Ic 81 "a. ~
ions are e4Gal 10 Montreal nate anu ''cIo 800
rust be nainslinod rs dfli! lr Hiu -, M ~ ' I
sboud adopt such s,Ste.l - All toh" 10 ,.ls Gnu.
Part Of this region furnishes some oi me 'o' O~0' %
Wy are c, districts devoted 20 butter mali
srho others are Devised % C-o.se. some ifiAtrs iO'
present who res.4e in these counties "fe 'rf! ssss'
al Grain grover. While others 49, e nal! s~.ers Us
rajfy f.rrcrs Let us hear nom both
Inreeard TO maarles tie dairy iofincTs az inn"luf
more mamie. aid Il a. be;ior saved @A@ 'ti1N! Up
SIiod than 4 j. w grain growers.
The Hon Nj. MARKS of Onondaca called fo-.
fut asked TO be excused but Scion Robinson insisted
that having been drafted he must serve or iufilsn
substuie which gave tie meeting an oIp"ltnh'! 10.
en ou,hurst OF patriotism. Nj AarAs theIe'"h ca, q
Col Pratt Il lrecne County who's d mat he was Du'
Ger farmcr, and knew nothing oboH' cAees 'haAl.e -
That he could not make comp sons nc ashcu tnc 'if
e tel rs whom 10 uLl manure. and Nloiher I'D p OF
The surface or Ia H. IL is leading oRJcci w 1Hi!
farmers 10 make OF The manure possible ana 1907 'ns We
sroy al the Inv We can ana bgy more ana We pie tAe
eow.droppres and wei Il VITA hGGor Of tL' hos PEI.
AID apply TIE mature IL SllAE Hie pow o' -
in Ifpa on tie surface. II dg.es and wastes SOW
white ooNcT-s.cd Al Sla ns Upon OF par - -, e
does cows good. and 80 =. docs ne bees II t-c ~
is applied Ca tie surface si before ran s'oI u. ~
do pretty wei but l prefer 10 rake IL IN HAu LILA IL
Nj oatman q Vienna ;lonrl. this one Of he most
,mporrn. questions tot coud be disgus,.G ~, ~,
farmers OF this stale 10 dAl .i"ero NV iluuu o'
that the only use % blowing land j. tomaAe u Dear no
grass end they never lIea Up pssAIe w .-Vs-'" I"
There Is no former hat can make fas,cr and
better or more prohiahy than tie dairyinan IL neA
would stock down land with grass 0Il' ava use N9i'
kinds Of seed ien te CO enc 70. oLoAe y NM nc.
Of stock which is now asked IOt NsN
If it - the means o. introducing lew ~ -
Improved breed into noiSAOOrhood AS 70 seealhs'
Cow half q bu.Ae. Of grass seed mixed per acre AID
prefer to SOW il H. autumn wlthou; gram. as We GO
more profit iron lie increase Of grass than We sEu.
from the grain. Experience proves ils' moro plOht
,orfe by farmers in Oleds AID ADJOINING counties eh'
ava north ~ keeping COWS and making Dutter anu
oaccse than Can Is made by tie best gran iIIei'
&c Hon Geo. Geedcs said Tint each section would
,rrsue tie system beet adapted 10 ne particular loe
eir attention 20 the derry Len hey can sow r. !.
1agartagc You cannot cOntne men 10 any particular
tstem Of crops. IN Lewis County tie farmers pow W
- make grain grow. There ore farmers IL On"heHse
Comfy Who know more about farming IN that count,
Than Iielig does. IL re IN Oneida farmers grow IcA J.
1870 49, ~-V1in 49, A. N, - mo manure
rd ~, ana wcSa SaSe9 s21!e't io.@sSs Ia
policy Of gain growers generally 10 connect gran
Mr. Hiram Walker OF Osvero County. whore dairy
ing is leading business. snd that IN lst l%O tIis
cheese and 60 tUns Of butter were cold OFT OF ID
county We can buy wheat cheaper Than we can sfo'
s. and our Object is 10 criigaie aLd 20 MAKE ffs an
NE plow and manure 10 HAT end. Cleese'inakHg az
,ears a, be the most profit able. and IL Increasing
NJ Stafford Of OsRego said that tie question Is I'm
rortant-vhst IS tie best rotation q croaf FooWIni
/.
fns are undoubtedly adapted - cTaAES 'TotleT thhi
GRAIN growing Facts are worth but Lii!e uul.ss 'hel
can be applied TO Iractco-s0 tAti s1eemeAls OF vnt
allie farming IN one section luGpphcabe IN enObef
III may be laiG down ;.ct tlat Ahegi "" ohj gro"
well upon land naturally OF GTiLcialy unoeiuia4Lea
Tile reason that re wheat region better adapted Y
sheen growing an tie dairy region Is because tie eli
mate is mildcr In tie ds: region TIE question - %"
70 keep tie lGld pcrmal mt! 40 g.ss-not max - US
best rotation fos that Is tho asI IIC tL-' cA! 'Ai u
Mr.. L,cmis Of Cayuga--Eo single farner can cue
cessfuly cary on dairy forming upol les t.en j"
acres. IL HeTkimsr a farmer averaged 81 bushels .
wheat per acre and yet said tat he could not anorl
grow it al 81 10 bushe. because dairy farming ~ MOI
profitable. On the farm occupy found tAai when
TOOK IL three ysaTs ago. land that would not produc
three fourhs II tun u hay per acre has been rouf
70 two tuns per acre by spreading the surface ahlIs
with straw Ny rotation upon 10 acres o! artbe IAN
is this: turned over sheep pasture alf rieAteu com
and p,owed that in Autumn, and soWed i've DuoLcA
peas per acre. and harvested item aLd proved w
ground AID sOwed grain md grass. Ire HrehI iues
fiOn with dairy tanners 10 NOT ioieiJD' OuI 10" u
keep land lougc6s IL ss-Ss. an1 hoS 10 naks !! NOS
Geo Geddes-Tho nan who grew 20 bushels Of wheat
per acre and sold IL al q - Dusle! u slTlkes me
must ind dairy farming very profitable u ne can q.
better than witt Wtea,. OF cur ro,c'ol. ma Whea'
81 ~! barley 81 %, and oats &c iuaitl az Syia
ouse OF course with these piece our rotation WOu!u
be varied somcwla; from tEat Of TIE regular wheat
growing farmer. 10 begin, We Pow oDs-yet od 500
IL Spring. ard plant with CON, md follow next Spring
with oas barley. and npOa itst elUbDle SOW wheat
Dad x quarts per acre 81 welt and IL the Spring with
sr onarfs 81 c6ycyserd aud amply as early cst
i, bushels per acre If plaster becseso We have as
certoi1ed By experience Tat Ae plaster MAKES tn'
wheat looS creen aad rankcr than 1t does with
out plaster and therefore believe ia more productive
and peys rs for tie application. Care mat be taken
tbe groUt is well advanced because it Is Dkey 70 pro
,ce an exccssige growth. and -. Tast VIII follow
We seed ~ land 10 clover pretty soavly-someume
II acarss per acre and NOV tWce-ihe aTst uine 10
lsv and re second time for seed. The Eext year VI
ras;g.e ard pow in Autumn and Plant corr In spilhy
SIN We do not adhere rigidy 10 this rule recause thl
year We have wheat upon cleyeT cod but We pre-
Ter tie five years system Of rotation. IL VII be 70
marked 40 curious tia year, tAa. bailey v wCIi