New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-02-14
FOR WAR Or FOR PEACE.

Mr. ID. A. M0hony, COpperneuu ouitor ~
Dubuque, Iowa, who rds MT elected to Con-
gress last Fall by minority of 1900, but who
,cas arrested and imprisoned in Fort lafayette
az disloyal, was among the listeners to John
Van Buren's speech last Tuesday evening, and
issues q card to say that it does mt at all
accord with has sort Of Democracy We
shouldn't wonder. For, though John sails as near
the wind as possible. and ventilates considera-
bic nonsense on the subject of the Proclama-
ton of Freedom and the conduct of the War,
tho drift of his speech undenably favors stand.
ing by the Government Of tho United States
until we can obtain a substitute from some less
questionable source than the proposed Louisville
Copperhead Convention. Thu strikes Mahony.
fresh from the conclaves Of the Northwest as
little better than straight-out Abolitionism and
he Gays:
have waited for few days to hear th, prssump
ton eon,r.e.ced by SewTork Democrat and As ii ha'
bee, done conclude that however individuals here and
there may dissent hom Sir. Van Buren, tho Of the
Democratic party aseosd with him "a tho sentiments he eI
pressed
"fthi. b. 80. Nj Editor there Isl vast eha,m between
thu. Of E.~York You Of thi. State according to Mr. Van
Buren, for vigorous prosecution Of the VAR zee u The
North Hs are for vigorous pro,,cssign Of peace
do no. speak 10, the NorhWs.. but Il when say ths,
the people ofhs section sslsciy thse oflinos Indiana
and Iowa oppO'od further prosecution Of the existing
wH.n
concert Of action II there be harmony Of sentiment between
tho conservative elements Of NowYok and Of tho North
Wsu and II there be not that harmony Of sentlust be-
10 e, unders:sDd each other " Nv paa Buren
,p,aks for the Demooaey here. nhk ray 'dy 81 Tia
Democracy i he North Wet ihai not h pouif be
does pesi fer vr to be informed In msa'
significant Of dissent from hs Views than the ind
yidual muttenss Of d.stcton which heard the
occasion when he sddfee the Democracy true tina.
Mr. Van Buren, di,cisd speaking for the party. or indeed
for any one but himself; bsog Invited speak
Democrat before Dsmocrsic association, which 10 pre-
.nn.d to embody such elements Of tho party awe fair
representation Of M general character, It viii be taken for
granted that, though lie spoke only for himself the silent
eqal.seenes Of hi. hearers commit them TO his sentiments"
We think Mr.. MahoDy judges his political
brethren in this city too severely. John Van
Buren, would never have been invited TO address
the Young Mems Democratic Association "
had it not been presumed that he would make
u very different and more disloyal speech; and
we are confident he will have no new invita-
ton from q similar body for months. Mr..
Mahony must have noted that. while the assem-
blage laughed at oil the Princes attempts at
jokes, and quite heartily when they came any
where near success, their only hearty cheers
were elected by those portions Of his speech
which must have been moat acceptable to his
Dubuque auditor. And no single Democratic
journal Of our City has proaered word of
appreciation for those passages which Indicated
that, whenever compelled to choose between
the Union, it's flag aud its constituted authorities
on the one hand and casting in his lot with
the conspirators for their overthrow and de-
struction lao should stand firmly by his country.