The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1863-05-14
Odd he advise tho people to take any

Ale advised them, at tho close of hi
: speech, TO come up together at the ballot. bo,
and hurl tho tyrant from his throne. II,
styled the President at another time as "Kinf
Lincoln
Q-By Mr.. vallandigham. You sav thai
/ said would not counsel resistapc,
to military or civil law. Did l not ex
prsssly counsel the people to obey the Con
stitution and all law, and to pay proper re
epect TO men in authority, and to maintair
their political rights through the balIot-box
and redress personal wrongs through the ind
cial tribunals Of the country, and IN that way
10 re6uke and put down the Administrator
and all usurpatious of power7
A.-N0t in that connection. He said. at the
last Of his speech, to come up to the ballot
box and hurl the tyrant from his throne
Q-Did he not counsel them to submit to ali
lawf
A-No, sir; didn't understand him to coun.
sci the people to submit to the authorities at
all times can't remember tha. he used the
language OF the question, or the substance OF
it 40 stated.
Q-Did not say that my authority to speak
to the people in public assemblages, on all pub.
lie questions. was not derived from General
Order No. SO, but General Order No l, the
Constitution of the United States, General
Washington commanding2
Q-I understood him to say that his author.
ity to speak to the people was higher than
General Order No. 3S of that mobbing despot,
Gen. Burnside. 1t was order No. l, signed by
George Washington.
Q-Were not the three names of Tod. Lin.
coin, and Burnside used together, and that
didn't ask their consent to speak,
A AT another time he used these words.
Q.-Were not the remarks you said made
about despising, splitting upon, and trampling
power generally and didn't 1, in that con
nection, refer to General Order No. 9, in Indi.
ana, signed by Gen. Haecall, DENYING the right
to criticise the war policy of the Administra-
tionY
A-The remarks in regard to despising, spit.
ting upon, trampliDg under foot, were made in
direct reference to Order No. 80. He some
the Administration, said that an order had
been issued in Indiana denying the people the
right to criticise the military policy of the
Administration, and if submitted to It would
be followed by civil war in Ohio.
TESTIMONY OF 8. s. cox
Q-By Mr.. Vallandigham.-Were you pres
ent at the public meeting in Mount Vernon, on
Friday, May ! 1868?
Al was present. as one of the speakers !;
heard the whole Of the speech stood on
the platform, near him, 90 that could not fail
to hear ali that he said; l have not heard him
speak since the adjournment Of Congress, and,
as came in from the West, did not know
that he was there took especial interest in
to follow him, l naturally noticed the topics
which he discussed.
Odd you hear his illusions to General
Burnside, ami if so, what were they7
A-The only allusion he made to the Gen
eral was, think, in the beginning of his
speech, in which he said he was not there by
the favor of Abraham Lincoln, David Tod, or
General Ambrose + Burnside.
Q-Was any epithet applied to him during
the speech
A-No, sir. If there had been l should
have noticed it, because General Burnside was
an old peysonal friend of mine. / should
have remembered any odious epithet applied
to him.
Odd you hear the reference to Gene
raj Order No. 3S, and if 30, what were the
words?
A--Ths only reference that was made to
that ORDER was something to this effect: That be
didn't recognize Il don't know that / can quote
the lsngnage) Order No. ;}S as superior to Or.
der No. |, the Constitution, from George
Washington, commanding. don't know as
this is the language. thought it "a very hand
some point at the time.
Q-Were any violent, epithets- as
like-used at any time in the speech in refer.
ence to that Order No. 3S?
Al can't rec0llect any denunciatory cpl.
thets applied to that order. If there was any
criticism made upon it it was mentioned above
in the remark about the Constitution. Mr.. Val
landigham discussed these matters very briefly
lie took up most of his time on another point
i'll connection with the question Of closing the
war; He charged that the men in authority
had it in their power, if they were willing, to
make peace. He exhausted some time in
reading from Montgomery Blair and from For
ney; and also st ted that there were private
proofs, yet to be developed, and which time
would disclose, proving his statement. He
bitterly denounced any attempt to make peace
by separation of the States.
Q.-DO you remember to what, if at all, con.
nsction with future usurpation of power he
applied his strongest language
Al can't say as to the strongest language,
for he always speaks pretty strongly. He de-
nounced any us1rpatiOn of power to stop pub
lie discussion and the suffrage. He appealed
to the people to protect their rights, as the
remedy for their grievances. He warned
against violence and revolution. by the pow
erful means of the ballot-box ali might be
remedied that was wrong of public nature,
and the Courts would remedy all grievances
of q private, personal nature.
O.-Was anything said by him at all, look.
ing to forcible resistance Of either law or mill
tary Orders2
A-Not as understood it.
Q.-Was anything said by him in denuncia.
ton of the Conscription law
Any best recollection is that he didt say
a word about it,
Odd he refer to the French Conscription
bilffl
Ale did not. spoke of it myself.
Q-DO you remember his comments on the
change in the policy of the war?
Ale did refer to the change in the policy
of the war, and devoted some time to showing
that it was now carried on for the abolition Of
slavery, that it had been perverted from a
war for the preservation of the Union to one
the Crittenden resolution to show that the war
was originally for the restoration of the Union.
Q-Was any dsnunciation of officers 10 the
army INDUCED in by him, or any offensive cpl
thets applied to theml
A-When, occasionally, he used the words
'the President and his minions," didn't un-
derstand him to use them as applicable to the
army. / think it was in connection with ar
bitrary arrests when he used these words.
Q.-Do you remember what was said in re-.
ference to the possibility Of dissolution OF
the Union, and of his determination in regard
to such q contingency
never be a prisst to minister ut the altar Of
disuuiOn.
Q-What counsel did he give the people at
the end Of his speech7
Ale invoked them under no circum
stances to surrender the Union.
The Judge Advocate had NO question to AJAX
the witness.
Mr.. Vallandigham said he had other wit
ns.sss he expected by the four o'clock train.