The New York herald., 1863-04-11

In which the question limited 70 simple recognition
thai the carried between Spain and her re
W. lied coionies which 1905 1872 1923
without any proposal for rec gnton. This case Is one
worthy the attention OF your lordships, henause was
Illustrated by mild wisdom Of Lord Insoowne by the
profound research Of Sir James Macintosh and by the
dazzling genius Of Canning We have therefore upon
This question OF recognition much light as can POS
siby be thrown upon any subject Now | beg refer
your ordships 10 Inc words OF Lord Iansdowne He was
zeao for the recognition OF the south American pro
vihces, he thought IL would be great advantage 70 this
country to recognize them and he enteiy free from
any trammes OF oIce or obligation consult the
terests Of the Minister Of the day But with that wisdom
and forbearance which chara, every act of his
puohc ie-(hear, stated that the first thing
De considered was the right and he on thush win
be my duty this night to point your lorcshps tho
great advantages which may result from the establish
ment Of South American independence. hope ! shall
never stand up in this Hsuse 70 recommend ordshs
principles OF right which are 10 ali expediency
ana which comose that great law II nations any
from which, to answer selfish and ambitious policy,
never fails TO recoii upon Its authors" (ear, hear)
These are words upon which this House may well reflect
(hear, hear land we may well consider upon what
grounds Lord Iandsdowne founded the which
just brought under the notice OF your lordshps In the
first place he stated il was necessary q country
which required TO be recognized should have established
its independence In the next place. that it should be
able to maintain that Independence the future and
lastly that should be able carry with all foreign
nations these relations OF peace and amty which form
the general International law Of the world. Now,
tme as Sir James Mackiptosh and as Mr. Canning did
We find that the greater part OF South America had
some twelve or fourteen entirely free from tho
presence Of Spanish armies We find that with regard TO
those IN which that absolutely
namely, Mexico, were Vera Cruz occupied by
GOO Spanish troops although the cause of Spain
seemed hopeless It agreed that their recognition
Ayres and parts South America which had clearly
and for number Of established their Independence
the step Of recognition. Besides this Mr.. Canning
took care TO inferm the Spanish Minister that
Se mot be long de-
cognze them they ought TO take that STEP and that Great
Britain was willing to give time before proceeding TO
cognize them herself (Hear) Well, here is great pre-
ceent for consderaton-here step taken by the
government OF the day after considerable care and
examinaton-here is course recommended by the Op-
position Of the day. any harsh SPIRIT but notwith
standing the conviction which the country generally
tertaned that the Of Spain hopeless and that
the independence Of those provinces firmly estab-
lished. (Heaf Well, now, II we look to the present
the States Of which Lord Lansdowne spoke find
the war in North america s still carried with
utmost vigorl had almost said with the utmost fury
We find some Of those provinces which the first TO
proclaim their independence-a great part OF louisiana
New Orleans and the banks Of the Mississippi
by the federal armies. There very considerable fe
dera menacng cities Of the confederation such as
Charleston and Savannah. So that say il 10
ing my limited vision do not believe those efforts Of
the federas will be successful But say
the the southern States is established tear, hear Well
then, what is the present state Of the case2 Although
great Efforts have been vain the great federal
| republic seems unwilling to accept the decision Of
events So far from 1t, find the last of Con
gress which has inst expired to place, by concrp
ton every man fit 10 carry arms at the disposal Of the
President of United States and to vote sums Of money
amounting to no less than ESQ 900 000 sterling the
purpose OF carrying the war Well then in this state
Of affairs should say that looking the question Of right
1t would not be friendly act towards the United states
1t would not be to fulfil our obligations TO country with
which have long manta aimed relations of pence and
amy-a great country which says it can still carry
the war-t would say, be failure of friendship
part II at this moment 10 nterpose and recog
n2e the Southern states have endeavered guard
myself by saying that spe'k now with reie--
know any moment IN which my noble friend could
have brought forward his motion with less encourage
mentfrom events u may turn out that these immense
efforts which being made shall be made vain that
the spirt Of the South unconquerable their determ
s final and rrevocable, and that time may when
the duty Of this country will be totally different from
~ n % ssaa AN n nos ~ M
TO an act 30 definite, posvean act unriendy 10
United states as that Of recognition the SOUTH
public. and Of the West Indies being ATTACHED by the
Southern. Ny lords, l cannot follow my noble friend
whs. may b he future course ~; Of s sssnss COZ
thear, hear)whchI think right and that Be- %, We
must be content 10 future days TO meet with future dan
power 70 reject that We have never failed IN our obi
CATIONS 70 hoee which have been great States In
sDd s with and ~: nss not S BEEN through
ssyssni ~ wS.s ny noSls si.nd Sss said o. night which
hs question but q The same sss shsss were psr.s 4
his speech which be rsisrrsd 70 former occasions and
noois .nS sd sos * Soss W ~ho
his motion tonight expected that thsre should be
ss s: ssss a.: which, -s ss S;s
done tn former days BY way Of ntsrvention. We TOO
vene We nsrsred in the ease q Holland 70 save hsr
from the religious tyranny and political despotsm q
Philip Sydney and Sy the p.lt We soo ~s couriSussa
TO her Independence In another casehe of Por
= ss . Il GS%rs IL
to send thousand mer % the aid Of the
Of Portugal and helped the Portuguese relieve them
sroaned. and 70 establish the Independence Of their
state In more recent times, when Greece endeavored
with Turkey rescued her from the which
threatened her, and helped her to found free and nde
when the BeIga.s declared that they were unable 10
| remain under the government Of Holland In accord.
with the treaty OF vsnn. We nserlsred by force
| ment was made by which the freedom Of Belgium was
secured. Now lords In all these instances, whether
the Intervention was carried by ancestors in
times there is nothing Of which an Engishmaa
need be ashamed lHear hear) II We have taken part
dence freedom, and welfare OF great portion OF
kind should be sorry, indeed, n there should bc any
snother character Cheers trust that this win not be
the and that interests deeply they may Affect
m ,as s bs s
dom and happiness Of other pats II the gobe-wi In
duce 10 set an example different from that Of
cestors, but that when bound to interfere Il
viii be an interference In the Of liberty and to
mote the freedom Of mankind have hitherto done
Up such (Iear) II rs with this ctou that
Nave addressed these few remarks TO wh, has
done by this country In former days, Ipss fha,
| scih regard 10 this eirIi america may be
able 10 continue d,tid and neural cpepd
upon II. my lords that IL that cease, II far
better It should by conviction both the part OF
the North ana the South that they live again
happily community and republic and that the
termination OF hostities be brought about by
the advice the mediation the Interference Of any Euro
pean Power. (Cheers.) repeat have spoken only OF
the duty Of the government at the present time aud
trust that there will be no further debate this ssbect
cloud cheers)
After q few words from Lord CAMPBELL the subject
| dropped.
| Mississippi Repudiation.
| LETTER PROM Mr.. sLIDELL-N0T JEFF. DAVIS, BUT