Rutland weekly herald. [volume] (Rutland, Vt.) 1859-1877, 1863-11-12


no choice upon the subject. 1t would be better
for the colleges to consult and negotiate and find
how they could unite, and then enact something
that would be of some use and would have ba-
sis. This way OF telling the colleges TO come and
Join the University If they fit, and if not to
let it alone, was not at all calculated to secure the
object in view. 1t was in every view that could
be ia taken Of it the wrong way to go to work.
There was still another objection to the bill.-
1t was proposed to unite an Agricultural College
with other colleges II was still an open question
whether this is tho best way. There had been
many experiments triea, and it did not appear
that it was certainly the oest plan to engraft an
agricultural department upon the other institu-
tions. 1t was unwise to fix and settle this ques-
ton beyond any possibility Of recall after the 5th
matter until the choice Of the people was known.
They might choose some other plan than the one
proposed by the advocates Of this measure.
With reference TO the danger Of losing the
land scrip,which has been granted by act of Con-
gress to found an Agricultural College, by delay,
he would say that he could not see any ground
for the assertion which had been made He saw
no reason to suppose there would be any loss by
such delay. He believed the bill would defeat
the object 1t had professedly in view.
Mr.. Wright Of Cornwall thought If the people
Of the state actually desired the consolidation Q
the colleges, the remarks OF the gentleman from
Middlebury, would come home to them with Pc
culiar force There were provisions in the bill that
would defeat this object which was so desirable
II was not the way to put the whip and spur into
titC pii diu tctt tut CuitgeS unless tnev come
up to time they must suffer for it. This was not
the way to treat them. There were many in
the state who ielt a deep interest in this matter
II was not alone the wealthy, but the poor, the
laborer, the plough boy felt an interest in this
question. They ought to have an opportunity to
xpress their opinions npon this subject before
hey acted upon j..
Mr.. Smith Of Hardwek did not perceive that
he bill was of threatening character It did
OF as tie undei stood it shut the door against Ali
union unless 1t should be accomplished brfcre
August next This was not the idea of the bill
1t allowed a encouraged the co leges to ioin in
an enterprise if they cho to do 20. Ii tnere
were objections IN the provisions Of the bdi, they
might bo ,einedled by amendment. He was ia
favor OF fixing some definite plan by which thess
institutions could be united. 1t YOU'D be of
great benefit to Vermont 10 Effect this union
Mr.. King Of Benson moved to dismiss the
bill,
Mr. Daniels Of Grafton agreed " tn wha. had
already been SAID ,giinst the bill He would al
SO say that ere might be question aaour the
land scrip. he value OF the lad would depend
upon Its location. 1t might be worthless. lie
having had exp r,ence in locating ,ands, would
say, taat ne would not aee ept the gran, as u gift
If, as he supI osed, the lands to be located in
bo ty and the taxes on them must be Maid
Mr.. Chant er uf Wopdstock was glad to hear
that the gentleman from nj ,ddlebury as no. an
advocate OF particular institut, on 1t was n
relief to learn hat such was the case.
With iefertnce TO the arguments taat bai been
urg against the bill he could not SET th. ir force
1t hal been sal that 1t was not best to hasten so
much the adoption Of this measure. II had been
represented thar it was forestallng pubhc o,inion
to pas the bill at this inc. The ftcts however
were that for the last two yea this had been 4
su je tof general interest AM d bate. 1t had
n only been gen r..l read of and talked about
since the act OF ngress grannl the lands to
70 nd an Agrientui al Collese, but there had been
a pee al time a poii.ted Tor public discussion, and
the rpoiat ens aad facaltie- OF the college had
been fnils rep eseniei IN meetings + r conferring
up II tee subjeet, and had been preseni, ami solne
OF hem hat taken ptrf in the discussion of the
su'oect IN the nepresen at ves' all. The e vas
no ground f,r the sertio OF the Assumption
that the hl'c uind was not info med, or he
general desire known in regard to tue mea ure
ntempated in the bill.
With reference 70 he after of locatir 9 lands
thrre not the difficulty er uncertainty that
had bee representet by tn, gentleman + am
Grat II (Daniel). The plan for loca inc them
advantag seusly was pl in enougp, by acting
throug the pfops a e agents. He had personal
In Wedge Of the matter and knew what he al
frned IN re ard to IL.
The objection 10 uniting an Agricultural Col
lege with other institutions was not well founded
Vermont woald be beh nd other states and behind
the age, II she neg.ected the opportunity 10 found
an Agricultural College ch as he tunes de-
manded. The Legislat re would be recreant to
their trus nd pAsiilat imous it they failed now
30 ca fof and secure by proper mea ufes The
fund now offer 70 them There was need af an
insttut on to train I've rnen Tor an active business
Now that fun was offered Tor This pnrp Sc i
should not be ost. II it was not moro than
eighty thousand dollars ii was worth having and
worth saying.
The gument about locating land, etc. by
which vas made appear that the grant was
worthless, was wi bout good fonndat.on. 1he
grant provided that the scrip might be sold and
the oeecds applied TO the purposes of d,acat u,
ms was the aw an much titat had been said
against the bl was therefore without ary founaa-
ton IN facts. 1t was the duty Of III r. & stature
% 60 On andtouiad an institution for instruction
N ag,lealtnrt and the mechanical arts. They
wonld do so unless they were recreant to their
trust and refused to act up TO the rcspon bill ties
they had assumed. He hoped and believed that
other instituti ms Of the ate would }oin in the
enterprise, but ii not the duty OF the Lepsla-
ture 10 go TO them nnd beg to be ADMITTED. They
should go straight forward and discharge their
duty IN founding a college or university as the
bill provided. No fault really had been found
with the bill, and its provisions were allowed to
be right.
1t was only claimed that il this whole mat
ter was let alone, somebody might at some time
effect the Union. This was not hope that
should defeat measure Of such importance as
the one under consideration. 3
In closing, he referred to a parable used by
our Lord, wherein it is said certain rich man
made feast, and when ali was ready the invi- |
ted quests, one after another began to make ex-
cuses, and he sent out his servants into the
highways and hedges and compelled men to
come in So it weuld have 10 be finally with |
this institution, If all the educational interests
and lnsuHuuOnS now existing in TIE State, re- /
fused too me in and enjoy its advantages
The State would has e to compel men to come |
In and help sus ain universi. which the State |
should see tit to establish. a
Mr.. Dorr of Rutland, was opposed TO the bill, |
and spoke at some length in reply to arguments !
urged in its favor. 4as.s-.s,t
Mr. woodward, of Westford, had taken a |
very deep Interest in this union of colleges. He
had fonnd that young men were inclined to |
leave the State when they had resolved to gain |
collegiate education because they wanted to |
20 where there was larger and more flourish !
ing college than can be found in Vermont. He |
also made it it an object to inquire of intelli-
gent men in the State, and had not found one |
yet who did not think that to effect such un.
ion of the colleges was of the Utmost imp0r-
tance All deemed ii very desirable. The peo-
pie called for II and it was now time to do IT,
He " uld inquire if now another separate col
lege should be established, about finishing up
what of collegiate interest existed In the state.
Mr.. Daniels Of Grafton, stated that the bill ii |
passed would cost the State fifty thousand dollars
year in paying the tax the land. etc., and he
did not wish to have this expense unless it vas
certain th-t the ate woula get somethin in re-
turn. He favored the objec. in view but Thought |
the bill was not calculated to secure it.
Mr.. Miller of Wiliston, was opposed TO the bill
because he thought it not calculated to secure
the obj ct in view. He was in favor of uniting |
the colleges if it could be done. One tf the col.
leges must be annihilated 10 accomplish this nd
that was we're great practical objee,ien. The