New-York daily tribune., 1863-11-20

sprrher iudcious to say public then hat III she ,
sense might bring this war ana i' ~ ." n Int
a. rorrse af conduct Won pursued legal or les T 90
ouch that but for you tlc h,oeon M"nlu "i ~, knows
almost IN the beginning oi II, u ~ snectacle in
f mon Who from sheer hatred OF war p! p!,i w
Iuasrmcnt ana mistake were eit TO loler ,hro ,rero
nngned hor5fr 5iIocpIv 81 o ihe interests of slavery
Tbare never was a mis position more slE' I'M ' a ''
of the British public q; ,Eis conflict There never
was case where nation by s upP' mo,; & ~
npoucstionaby in favor OF saa, q" ,so, So"S r',o
aau ,ae SIsyary They went against free society at
fhe yerv time that they were proudly lrnsg Iree So
riety and arrogang to themselves its highest honors'
Finder such circumstances We were drifting You reeo
Let right toward told the British people that
war was not choice; and yet terrible and cruel as
Twas there was something in this struggle dear to
ms and so indispensable TO national life that rather
fhan that there should be experimentation than that
there should be disruption and Observation-Disclosures
sban that should fail in this Republic and free gov
eminent should fail, would stand war with Great
britain and France. with Europe. Loud applause.
il would have been difficult to say this without the ap
pearance of threat; but that difficulty was solved for me
Nv the iterated and reiterated charges brought
ussinst of having been bellicose in my own coun
fry and having threatened all manner of desolaton TO
Great Britain; and my reply was this that felt part
and m part in proportion. Of that deep indignation
which my own people felt against Great Britain that
had never desired war; abhorred III but that thought
fhe great principles Of free republican government to
De precious that would not give them up not
M the threat at the nfiction of matter who
brought II upon This. then. being the cruel disap
pointment which experienced in expectations Of
sympathy from Great Britain, you will ask me, What
did you find To be the facts and the condition of things
found in the first place. upon going there. that every
man that met was Southern man; not literally
born in the South but this is the derison they have
themselves made, and these are the terms applied.
Tbey are Southerners Norherncrs, even more than
we are here. / found that on the railways on the
boats. In the hotels wherever there was a travelling
public there was public that sympaihized with the
koutl yef a
uncommon thing TO hear gentlemen talk freely and
kindly with upon other matters saying a. the news
was discussed. Bad have got by the last
steamer" What is the newsi" asked n little
troubled "I understand that Meade has driven Lee
entirely out Of Pennsylvania God send US much
more bad news then said l. fAppausel Coming
from communities enthusiastic aud almost homogeneous
III their feelings npon this subject at least, II was
etrangeto my ear 20 hear weldressed and well bred
men, ofordinary intelligence, congratulate themselves
Ipon the disasters Of tie North and rejoice IN tie sue
cesses of the South. But such is the case Nor WIN
there return to city young man Tat hns teen
srayeng who viii bring back substantially this nc
count that wherever he went almost every man that ne
and in favor Of the South fon VIII well imagine tne
Impression made under such circumstances A man
first impression would be that there question about
this matter that these old English people, this old
British nation all against US. Go where yop WILL
mn OF down YOU will fnd IL all the That was the
effect produced upon my mind. Upon siiL further In
Cury was disappon ted 10 find that those supposed
4 should have IA right 10 lean upon were not 10 be
leaned upon-i mean the body Of Dissenting Chisiian'
x-egatonalist known as Independents III EhgaDd i
iad supposed since they sending out their test-
nony lor freedom would have been airayed almost IN,
yarshy the side Of the people struggling 10 sustain
their liberties. had supposed should ma them
right did not-l do not mean that there Is not o
very large part OF that body that perhaps night Tor
fhev will be included under head which shall men
1on W and by bat am sorry 10 say that did not
find an influential and leading clergyman OF That de-
nomination influential and leading layman On
our side They said that they sympatADcd With
lberiyyes they sympathized with liberty exactly a.
m islce sympahizes with sunlight IN Summer IL
rhls you to 60 near il; and said to them, ] want no
euch frigid sympathy; l want nothing II II cannot
rome more glowing from enthusiastic hearts
fAAn this Ii does u good. and We DO nj want II.
found also the most profound ignorance Of affairs
and al the provisions of inriituii0ns and that too
in quarters where had rght 70 expect more inteli'
gence. / found the most active and unscr.pnOus 81
forts made by Southern 10 stir up aniioosy and
war And let say. a bad cause Was better served
than good there, as to some extent i has been IN
ouT own lana. am sure That Tie SoHih. ioi a D"a
cause has nearly put forth ts entire strength than
for good csuse. 80 abroad where We send one
man 10 England 20 influence puhhc opinion thei sehc
score Where print one book Of information. they a
library Of them. Where touch one sprlf L. they o
hundred Thes seemed 20 pervade Eng.erd AID they
seemed with the uIcrrirg instinct of selishness and
despotsm To know JusG where to undermine ihs sencf
os and better ieeng Just who're TO invoke Tie coad
D. that principle should fall and profit tnke is place
You viii then imagine the surprise ard ssepuesm with
which received the Of the friends on our
s1e that the great heart of the British nrtion was on
our side had found nobody except the conidcliial
friends Of emancipation, IL whose socie! was THROWN
almost nobody that spoke Kindly Of that seemed
10 be sympathy with US ana yet my ears wrung with
the assurance. day and night You are mlsiakcn-mis
taken this great In sA Ieopleaie sound az heart Ana
said Where under heaven do the English people Keep
their hearts = lApplausel And i had spoken ~ my
early visit 10 England in June. 1 could not have
spoken as now do shall Neither on my first return
from tie continent in September. could have under
stood and felt what understand now. In some mea-
sure entirely believe that they were rght and that
after all tie great heart - the British ration
is with Us at the North. lApPlnpsel Let
take Up then one pait 81 rocie'y ailef
another, and state what / understood 70 De t the
gland. those that making money, and those tlht
have made il. II You please call them The Iutocracy
they are against US In the hT-i place there j. large
class Of men that are actively empo'ed in supr!Ae
tie South with al it, necessiies-e4ccpt prinqple-Ad
they making Ol suppose HAT they are ma ING IAse
fortunes. We cannot doubt which sue tAey thke'
The next j. very large class u WHO 20! precisely
the opposite reason somehow are opposed TO The North
Ind In OF the South ngney those iht have been
accustomed 70 make money ana ma thai tLe pfrlpl.
Ing war has stopped their piois-tnc n.n that want
L. make money and don't. LauglterI They are OPP
posed 10 Us. Between these two classes lies the great
lLtermcG8te one Of men that are bcNitfed ana per
xlexcd and they bee that business is more ~ less
affected az il A. over the whole cOniiheht nom
IL sympathetic relations with THIS coluAeAti ana
they saw LET this end - and a. the ONeiflFc
war is on the Northern side they feel tAat
whenever the North viii stop aggressing the South,
fhe var will stop aud 30 they ar againtt M.
And il NAV be LAID down that while there are very
noble exceptions here and there through England. men
fhat stand out against their class and abre IT, yet
speaking comprehensyely, the O. lmercial ciMs are
againsi the North and III favor Oi the SOUTH have
spoken of the re Ous people 1t Is ID yery difficult Tor
me 70 anayze the that have on Tie hoe turned
both the Establishment and the DhseIteT ~ respect oi
most Of their influential men. HE Influential laylnf
and most Of the influential clergy men, all informed
are mostly against Us as body. The ground usually
taken is that The North j. not sincere; and secondly
that war i, a great sin Nowhere else ~ the Oiid ~
there 40 tender "A conscience the subject 81 war AZ
England has when she is not wasing H. She has only