Democrat and sentinel. [volume] (Ebensburg, Pa.) 1853-1866, 1863-05-20

said, in regard to the rebuke of the Ad-
ministration, at the last fall election, that
no more volunteers could be had thai
the Administration had to resort to the
French CONSUMPTION act that he would
not counsel resistance TO the military or
civil law, for that was not needed That
people were unworthy to be freemen
who would submit to such encroachments
on their liberties. ar-za--~r
Q. What encroachments did he refer
to?
A He was speaking of the conscrip-
ton act. He said he believed the Ad-
Ininistration was attempting to erect a
despotism that in less than one month
Lincoln had plunged the country into
this cruel, bloody, and unnecessary war.
q. Can you recall anything he said
in relation to General Order No So?
A. He said the Genera! Order No.
80. was usurpation of power; that he
despised it, spit upon it, trampled it under
foot ;tllat he, for enc would not regard it.
He styled the Administration, officers,
and officers of the army, Us minions OF
the Administration. He said he did not
he might speak there Or not /; that he was
freeman. and spoke when anL where be
pleased.
9, Do you remember anything he
said with reference to the course he al
vised the people to pursue?
/ A. He said these p-oclamations and
military orders were intended to iniini-
date the people, and prevent them from
mingling together as they were doing that
day; that he claimed the right 10 discuss
and criticise the actions of the civil and
military officers of the Government.
Q. Did he advise the people to take
any steps?
y. lie advised them, ai the close OF
his speech, to come up together at the
baiiOt-box, and hurl- the tyrant from his
throne He styled the President at an
other time as King Lincoln"
CROSS EXAMINATION.
Q. BY Mr. Vallandigham Did you
take any notes during the delivery Of the
speech, or are YOU testifying from memo
ry9
\. / took no minutes during the de-
livery of the speech; but after Mr..
Pendlcton began speaking 1 went TO the
hotel, perhaps an hour and half after
ward, and wrote some minutes OF the
speech.
9. You speak of my saving that
8 the North might have been won back
was II not that the south might have been
won back, &c. =?
A. No; noticed this particularly,
and it struck ME very forcibly.
Mr.. Vailandigham If said it, it
must have been slip of the tongue
Q. You say that l said would not
counsel resistance 10 military or civil law
Did I not expressly counsel the people to
obey the Constitution and all law, and to
pay proper respect to men in authority,
and to maintain their political rights
through the ballot-box, and redress per-
sonal wrongs through the Judicial tribunals
Of the country, and in the way 10 rcbuke
and put down the Administration ard all
usurpations of power? t r
A. Not in that. connection. He said,
Mt the last Of his speech. 10 come up to
the bailot-box and hurl the tyrant from
his throne .a" ia
@. Did he not counsel them to sub
NIT to all law ...s.-. ..-.--r
\. No, sir ; didn't understand hin,
to counsel The people to submit to the au-
thorities at all times. L can't remember
that he used the language of the question.
or the substance of it a. stated
Q. Did not say that my authority
to speak TO the people in public Assem-
blages, on all public questions. was
not derived from General Order No. 3S,
but General Order No ], the Constitu-
tipn of the United States, General Wash
inston commanding ,....
A | understood him TO say that his
authority TO speak to the people was
higher than General Order No SO of
that mobbing despot, General Burnside:
Q. Were lot the three names of Tod.
Lincoln, and Burnside used together, and
that l didn't ask their consent to speak?
A. At another time he used these
words.
@. Were not the remarks you say /
made ABOUT despising, splitting upon, and
trampling under feet, expressly applied in
reference 70 arbitrary power generally /;
and didn't /. in that connection, refer to
Ganeral Order No. 8, in Indiana. siered
by General fIascall, denying tie right TO
criticise the war policy OF the 4tlmiiiis-
tration7
\. The remarks in regard 10 deSpi-
sing, splitting upon, trarnpiinS under too.,
wore made in direct reference to Order
No, IS. He some 'ime afterwa-i. IL: