The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1863-03-05

Situations 20 you, 4 n ! have read your letter
in the H9Eu Patpha Of Jan. -, 1868. l am
glad, dear sir, that your grauaries are brimful, for
this Is 4 season Of famine in Hawaii nei. and by
distributing your " seeds Of rectitude'' the multi
tude will perhaps be sarated with the bread Of
truth.
Allow me, then, humbly to ask you to have the
goodness 70 prove distinctly and clearly the validity
Of the conservation Of the present Bishops Of Eng
land. and the lawfulness Of their mission. This, my
friend, Is q very weighty question, for, that the
English bishops are not true bishops, has been read
Of in very many histories, has been heard Of here,
ami perhaps has been published IN every corner OF
the islands; it is mysterious, doubtful, and the
multitude fatty deny it.
Do not imagine that 1 make this statement
through anger, selEconceit, or any other similar
motive assure you that do not wish to reject them
without reason. The Greek bishops oppose the
church Of Rome, and in 80 doing they are in q state
Of revolt. Their episcopacy has not, however, been
denied, because the validity Of their conservation IS
manifest. We're IL thus with the English bishops
they would not be rejected in that respect.
In the frs: paragraph you tell me, " the church
OF Rome in styling herself the Catholic church, IS
like saying that an atom Of anything is the whole of
that thing" Here is what will make clear the
truth Of what is called by you an " atom" The
Scientific Miscellany gives the statistics Of the
number Of PrOtestants, Greeks and Catholics thus:
Protestants.. 4s,9s5 900
$500 900
Catholic. 600
Deduct 100, 900, 900 Of this 8 atom" the remain
hCA WA 49, 'N - 49,
Of every denomination. In vain do you state that
the Greek church is a " branch" or the English
church is a " branch Of the Catholic church.
They are both separated from il. When both return
again To the ancient faith, then will they be reunited
to the trunk, live, grow and produce good fruit
again.
L have heard what regards the English bishop
who has landed here. | do not deny his gentleman
iy bearing. nor his other good qualities I I'm not
displeased with him. L even love him, but to me the
validity Of his episcopacy is not evident, and what
80 ma - most avilauf IL that no has mt bTz nrzsfn
from him who has jurisdiction in that respect.
L am a little versed in the history of Constantine
the Great, and in what was done in the council of
325, where were assembled 3lS bishops. You ask
Where did this council meet?' Was it in
ROme?" This is q strange question. Is the power
Of the Pope diminished by his assembling his coun-
ellis wherever he may deem proper? This council
met in the city Of Nice, in Asia Minor, because il
was suitable in the opinion of the Pope and the
Emperor. You also ask, Who presided in that
council?" 1 answer, Sylvester. the Pope Of that
time, in his three representatives, HOsius, bishop Of
Cordova in Spain, Vitus and gincentius, Roman
priests. Should you doubt as TO that, read Socrates
IT, 1. C. 49, Gelasius Of Cyzca, (Synt. Conc. Nice,
L. 2. c. 81 and Photius Tin BibliOth. Edit. Rotomag,
p. 2O6,) sc.
The Emperor sat in that council for its protection
and to promote the service Of God, as all Christian
princes ought to do; but he did not exalt himself
above the bishops. cit is God,' says he to them,
g that will condemn or approve you l am only a
man, without authority in the works Of the Lord.
/ am not a judge Of the representatives OF God, they
are TO Judge me-" God. Theod. L. 81 In that coun-
Gil the jurisdiction Of the bishops was placed in
their proper boundaries; it was the Jurisdiction of
the "Patriarchate'' that was defined, and not the
supremacy conferred or Peter and his successors.
1t was always believed, without doubling, that
Peter was bishop of Rome; and you say, following
perhaps Velenus Of the 18th century, - there are
many reasons for believing that this is not true"
Then the truth on this point was known after more
than 1900 years 1t was not known in the 18th,
14th. 18th centuries. and so on back to the Apostles.
IL was known TO Velenus, a protestant Of the 10th
century, but not known to Ireneus, Diouisius Of
COrinth, Caius and Origen, Tertullian and Cyprian,
ArnObius and Lactantius, Eusebius and Athanasius,
Cyril and Ambrosius, Jerome and Sulpitius Severus,
Augustine and John ChrysOstOm, Orosius and Peter
ChrysolOgus, Optatus and Theodoret, of the first
centuries
Your words respecting the supremacy of Peter
over the other apostles, have been frequently refuted,
and thousands of volumes have been written on that
subject. You do not wish. perhaps. that l publish
those answers in the RuObOG, these - atoms below,
will, perhaps, be sufficient.
If Eusebius gives a list Of the successors of Peter.
what OF it? Was not Peter, in the opinion Of
Eusebius, ut the head Of the chain ? If Linus was
assistant bishop to Peter, and his successor, what of
it; Was not Peter the head and the first?
Many are the passages in scripture that establish the supre-
macy q Peter vide, Mat 10: 2 To- IS: 10, Il: %. Mark
/: SO. Luke :: 81 9: %, &C. John Il: 10, &c. Acts 2 ii, %,
Many books have been written in the first centuries. both in
Latin and Greek, to establish the faith of the church on this
Among the Latin fathers, vide Cyprian, Ep. 3, Ii, Ep. Is,
DiouysH, 7. / Hlarius, in Cap. l6 Mat, and his historical frag-
ments. where is found the letter Of the Council Of Sarlica TO
Pope Julius. AmbrOsius de EXcessu fratris sui L. ., Hieroui-
mus Lib. advers. jOyianum, ZIP. al Ageruchiam. EP. al Damas.
Tom. !, Augustine, ZIP. al gEorium, Up. al Optat, Ep. lI, IO3,-
IIOII2- Serm. =, de verbs apostDi in fine Leo the great
serm. de nativ. ATost. Prosper Lib. de ingrat- optatus, Lib. con-
ira Parnen-
Among the Greek fathers vide John Chrysostom, Ep. adj In
noeentiqm, EPiPhanias, Heres IS, I. 1, Basil, EP- 50, al
Athan, ireneus, L. 3, C-3.
The first general councils likewise establish the supremacy Of
Peter and his successors over the whole church. The Council
Of Nice, as has been shown aboye; The Council Of corstanti-
rope Damascus, apni ih s. !. !, zap me S9ln9ii
III. Paris, 7. ), Z. 6iO, GIL, GIG, go, coo. The Council Of
CalceiOn, as seen in the Acts Of THAI Council, apud Labb. L 4,
z. SIS.
Ancient church histories also establish the supremacy Of Peter
and his Successors, vd. Eusebius. l. : g so, Socrates l. IC.
s sOzomen, LIS { ), TheOdoret, Ii c. D. Evagre, L. l. ca,
Who toI you that - Peter was the first chosen to the Apostle
shpr" John says !: &c, that Andrew was the first called;
" and he also" says one % your witnesses. =" was the first born
OF the college Of the Apostles
1t y true. our Lord f5rbids PRIZE AMI haushtiness, but he dos
high master; he, however. washed the feet Of his Apostles. You
cali Gregory the VII proud and naughty. II you wish 10 know
the true character Of this Grvg1ry VII, who was elected Pope
ia the year 1875, read his history written by NOist a celebrated
Protestant, then perhaps, will your opinion be changed
was lti before the first Council % Jerusalem but perhaps in
his character Of Bishop % Jerusalem, he published the things
- - ieNT' .t E-FsW, A"4 III "IEI ApNstIss-
II Is True Plul stood up m the presence Of Peter AMI con-
demu@d- IN HIM, something that was considered an evil. but
this IS d2ae by Ministers and others in the presence Of Princes
without diminishing their authority
Real again the 5h verse, Cor. III. NJ. That does not regard
supremacy or nonsupremacy: it relates 20 works. And Paul
says, Il suppose I have done nothing less than the great Amos
ties" You have Translated the above verse. thus. = he did not
become less, ia the hast, than the Prince Of the Apostles II
yu are correct, what i the meaning Of these words. "tba
Prince % the Apostles" You pat into the Epistle Of Paul that
which rrfItes yourself! You are truly d-Nteruus. dear sir.
ChrysstOm- Ambrose, Cyril, Rufuus, Hrsychius, Epiphauius.
OF Peter over al the members q the church In their preach
ing PraIug AMI similarzng the works Of the Apostles. they
are eohs'steGt IN thsir Anglise- Cypran- the Bishop o. earth
opposed Stephen the Pope o. that time, respecting the
baptism Of Heretics- This was his error but this error was