Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1863-07-30
THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT.
THE MOTION FOR SOUTHERN RECOGNITION

Ju on the order OF the DAY Tor tuo resumption oil the
debate on Mr.. Roebucks motion with regard to the
cogntion Of the Southern States of North America the
fol owing debate took place:
Mr. RoEBucK and said Sir rise for the purpose
OF moving that the order be read for the purpO be-
ing discharged Hear, hear brought forward that
motion under tho feeling that about to nsi the
House to take step which would have the effect Of put
ting an end to lhs horrible carnage ging in Anne
RIGA and which would also the commercial interests
OF Great Britain For doing have incurred much OBJ
Oquyau obloquy that has from very noiey if not
from very wise party. Laughter must say that my
present has not been influenced thereby The
noble lord at the head Of the Government had said that
the continuance of tbs debate impsdiment in his
way to the good Of the country Hear hear
have paid respect to The noble lords wishes and have
likewise induced my honorable friend (Mr Lodsay) to
forego his feelings in the matter.
/ When the noble lord eat down Friday last my honor.
able friend and myself were perfectly at least very
nearly satisfied with what had be stated and il nothing
more had been said there the matter could have ended
but official arrogance 10 plant Of portentousy rapid
growth loud laughter ard the Under Secretary for For
egn Affairs thought h TO bng charge against my honor
able friend 10 which he believed his honor and his feelings
called for But sir, little cool reflection has
taught hun that insnuaon OF the kind conf e FRI such
quarter may not be regarded Loud cries Of Oh Oh and
hear, hear
has been stated that the time has not yet come for the
consider Of the question. and have yielded to the
suggestion. But let the noble lord bear in nd that
there two dangers be ore him which he will have to
meet, and which England will have 10 meet Que is the
possibility Of the reconstruction Of the Union upon South
basis and the other the acknow edgment Of The Con-
federated South by the Emperor Of the French alone
There two great dangers tor England Cries Of
snd hear, hear The noble lord will, have no doubt
with his long experience fully justify the conf ience of
the people in his consideration II these two great questions
leave them, sir, without hes taon in his bands though
must say my opinions entirely against the withdrawal
OF th m from pubic consideration at the present time
England and EngIaud's interest demand the decision Of
this HOnse and 1t is only under feeling Of great respect
for the noble lord tina! now withdraw this motion.
Mr. LINDSAY SIR. wish to say only very lew words
Tn to have been some great misuuder landing
this question The motion to be withdrawn is to
the R ct that the House invites her Majesty into
nego with Powers for the recognition of the
Sou hern States OF Nerth Amer That motion stood on
the paper for abcuts weeks heard rumor ten days
befre the mot to on that tie Emperor
Of the French had changed his mind this question.
How tfat originated know not, but it was vary
general did not Low YER pay any attention to it, My
honorable friend also heard it and dropped tie ask
ing me to ascertain if could what truth there in it,
because he said it very important that he should
know, lest when he brought forward bis mott some
member Of the Government should rise and ask What is
the good Of this notion when of the chief Powers is
not prepar to join in recognition OF the SOUTH? My
norabe nd added that he would like very VT to see
the Emperor and learn the fact from himself laugh
wrote the subject to friend in Paris expecting NOT
that my letter waul reach the Emperor but only that
friend would make inquiries AMI inform me OF the resu t.
The letter did not get to his Majesty. received
stating that might give urqual fed contradiction
to the The Emperor said !" have not changed
my mind to the derabiy of recognis ng the South
ard if Mr. Lindsay and Mr.. koebuck come to Paris shall
be very glad to then" banded that note to my hon.
Orabe and learned frenI, telling HIM that could re I'D
it If the referred to H. the House My hon
orabe and learned fren however, thought that the note
would not ba sufficient. 81 should like" he said, to
certain the fact for selfthe House will believe me
A laugh, and % hear hear"
that my opinion the note would be enough aud that
the HoDse would believe it had come from autaorite
i've but the honorable and lsarDed gentleman still
persisted in his desire to 60 to Paris had no wish TO
ntrnde myself upon the Emperor, but my honorable
and learned friend anxious to learn his Intentions from
his Msesy himself and shared the anxi ty to see this
motion carried, accompanied my honorable friend, at
great Inconvenience, to Paris. An audience at
granted to usg but presume thu House docs not for
ment suppose that would make public any
on which the Emperor Of the French has been pleased
10 hold with either al tn. interview aoy other
without his permission. Hear hear During that con-
versaton which lasted consider bile time my honorable
and learned friend pointed out to the Emperor The mpor
tsnce Of it clearly understood that if 1t sh 3uld be
The p ASSURE of her Majesty to prepare to neeo are with
him. he would be prepare to into that negotiation
and my honorable aud learned friend asked that he might
bs permitted to make statement to that effect His
sty replied Take sny you tn nix proper to let
It be known that prepared to negotiate, and that
there no truth in the umor prevalent in England All
the Emperor meant that il the House OF Commons
should pray her ssy to address him the subject of
cognltiOn of the Southern Stats be would be 0ay too
happy to enter into negotiations with that object beiev
nR as he did, that the great Powers Of Europe thought
it advisable to recognise the Southern Confederacy the
moral effect wOId such to stay thu terrible carnage
cow 90 ng 10 America That is the substance Of what
took pae.
should have been quite satisfied with the statement
made by the noble lord mt the head If the Government on
Fr day ght but from what subsequently, fell from the
Under Secretary Of State Tor Foreign Affairs That hon.
orabe member seemed to bs not at M sstsd with what
hsd fallen from the noble lord the contrary he seemed
to be que dissatisfied, and proc ed to introduce fresh
matter into the debate. Hear, hear lie tainted me
wih beng an amateur dplomatst aud warned to be-
ware Of the trap int, which had fallen a former oc
casion Such ks totally u1csllrd for as the
noble vlscount WAS fully thai hid been aboring
for some time in Paris very important q1es ion si
fectng the mar time relations Of he two countries
was the not only with the knowledge but with the sane
tim OF her Maj-stys Government although bearing all
my own expenses IT. therefore, was sma'eur dipo
mast, had been made by Maj sy's Government,
being sent to do work which tn ought to have done
themselves. Hear, hear.
Yiscount PAIMERsTON think that my honorable and
learned e1d has acted rightly in the motion made
to discharge the order because for which stated
on former occasion good could arise from resumng
the lnpsed discussion cannot, however, refrain from
ssng regret that he and the honorable member
Tor Sunde land should have mixed mp with their motion
an attack upon my honorable friend the Under Secretary
for Foreign Affairs. Hear, hear My honorable friend
I'D merely acted 10 the spirit Of what h. conceived to be
his official duty what he said in replying the honora
BILE mber for Sunderland on Friday night / hope
however that this is the last time which any member
OF the House will think II his duty communicate the
Bii irh House of Commons that which may passed
between himself aud the sovereign of foreign country
do not mean ompute the slightest blame to hon
orabe friends, who, believe acted with the best iaten-
lions, but al the time wish to impress upon them
that the proceeding they adopted must Irregular
Inc British Parliament has IT, messages and com
muincauons LON the sovereign Of the United Kingdom
but we have no relations, communication nor nte cre
nor any official knowledge of the sovereign Of fore on
equity and Is not our funct to receive communion