The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1863-08-10

shared the impression OF the Duke Ia regard France
and could not et ieei that th. determination OF the
Russian Cabinet would be hlgnly unacceptable 10 Ter
Maesty's government. After 81 megcousuitalion u
agreed that the French Ambassador should accompany
me 70 isarskoe seo this morning in the hope that ruse
Gortscpskon might 10 enabled 10 give expinniia
Of his views, which, on being communicated our
respective Cabinets, might set his Intentions Ia moro
favorable light and mitigate the first iIn winch
tho perusal OF hs desptches 1ud eaie We accord
mgiy waited on Prince Gortschakon this morning. who
the tnee dispatches ia our hand, After we had
cAieiuhy read them through apart returned TO tho
Prince when after thanking bis Excelency for his
mnnioaton, spoke to him IN the follow ing senss:-I
sau That might have abstanea from all remarks on tho
subject ana simply awaited the resolution Of her Malos
Vs governmants ] must beg him TO unders.an that
Any observations which might offer solely prompt
ca ~ the nope that fuller explanation of sentiments
on one or two points might DO found calculated mti-
gaze me feelings Of dissatisfaction which his
utons would probably be received by the allied gov.
ernments ! much feared that his communication
would Do understood 10 England as an attempt TO
gam gam timo and detach Austria from our alliance;
aat proposal which at tho present c0njuncturc
aimed 70 exclude two great Powers from the dis
cussion question in which they had expressed tho
oeepest ana most deliberate interest would be regarded
~ Iar rom conclliatory, and Offensive that
scheme by which the interests Of Poland would be
m.ted exclusively TO the hands OF tho Powers by which
ana mao peen parttoned, and in past times oppressed
would inspire no confidence fact that form OF reply
could ~ my humble judgment have contained fewer elc
ments for friendly pacific adjustment Nevertheless,
DC pleaded In favor OF the Russian argument in 81 far 40
even In restricting the discussions 10 the three
which had been adopted by your ordshp the ground
OF our medations would ask his Excelency for your
lordship's Immediate information, two questions
/. What the form and what tho basis which he de-
signed 70 give 70 the discussions which he proposed be-
tween Austria. Russia and Prussia2 And,
2. Whether he proposed to exclude and England
even from any PARTICIPATION in the ratification OF the
gagements which might be taken by the three Powers
whether he proposed TO admit them in the same man
and in the degree In which they had been ad
mtted by the Treaty Of VienDa2
The Vice Chancellor stated in reply, that tho Plenipo
M pvue ha od hv
him ~ ST. Petersburg and the results u this restricted
conference might, as In the treaties Of Vienna be
signed IN the form Of protocols in that OF treaty
any other shape which might be considered desirable
that the basis OF the discussion poi d. dpar would be
the six points proposed by the three Powers which
tanned nothing contrary to the views OF the Emperor
wei AS other points which he might deem II his duty 10
submit Ia reply TO my second question, Prince Gortscha
kon stated that the resolutions embraced In the COME
renee OF the three neghborng Powers most directly
cerned In the affairs OF Poland would be ofciay impaired
~ tho governments Of England and France, which would
De able TO appreciate the conformity Of those resolutions
(Which would enbody practical adaptation OF the six
points, TO the spirit and text Of the Treaty Of Vienna
urged the Vice Chancellor 20 declare unambguously
whether his resolution did did exclude the logical
result TO which strict adherence the method OF
Treaty Of Vienna would conduct him, namely 70 the
bodment Of the result Of the restricted conference
general convention which all the Powers bound by tho
engagements OF 1915 should be parties. The Vice Chan
ceor did not perhaps absolutely commit himself against
sucn aconcluson but he refused To admit IT, and
eddy asserted that he would accede TO nothing which
would give the Western Powers any right whatever Of in
In which he seemed 10 include the kingdom OF Poland
though did not cease to contend that had limited
right OF interference there under the Treaty OF Vienna
have not given the Vice Chancellor the least
ground for snpposng that the tenor OF his despatch
Baron Brunnow or its present development its
viii be considered satisfactory TO her Macstys gov.
eminent.
The Russian Reply 90 Austria.
The following is translation OF the despatch sent by
the Russian Cabinet in to the Austrian note on
the affairs Of Poland L. addressed to N. Baabine,
Russian Ambassador at Vienna
! ST. PETERSBURG, July II. 1888.
SIn-From the commencement OF the troubles IN The
dom Of Poland we comprehended the lust interest
which the Austrian government ought 10 take In acts
which we're passing in s Immediate neighbornood and
which might react on the tranquility Of It's Polish
insurrecion has concentrated eli It's Efforts within
the Kingdom OF Poland, and although II was rather
the elements Of disorder found within the bordering pro-
vnces belonging 10 other Powers which flowed back
towards that centre Of contagraon and supplied 1t
with fresh allment, tho most simple foresight srf-
feed to Indicate that those deploable events could
receive solution which would interest equal
degree the neghboriDg States Accordingly hasten
70 Invite me Cabinet OF Vienna 70 an interchange o. IDEAS
We behed with lively satisfaction that II did not mis-
understand that desire for friendly understanding
founded common interests, in face OF eventuaes
ioreseen BY the abcttors OF the nsurrectn and who
Ia spit. Of the transparent veil with which they
their proceedings. tend consequences which might
Affect the end the integrity itself OF the states OF his
Austrian MAJESTY Tne Count do Rechberg recommends
10 the consideration q tue Russian Cabinet
which, in his opinion, nigh, lead 10 the pacdcatou
Informed Of the real state OF thugs Ia that
country for 20 direct his attention the fact that
several Of these measures exs, already and that others
In their essential points to the development
which august master has reserved to himself 10 give
tbs present institution OF the kingdom whenever
Majesty deem that the proper moment has arrived
Tho Minister % foreign Affairs o. Austria besides ism
self admits that the greater part OF those ideas enter
the plan which the Emperor has traced Bot HE
Exceasrcy will without Doubt also allow that they can
not be applied with any chance OF success until material
biixns tot47s Reel rif
certainly comprehend that 50 long that condition, In
spcnsabe TO the sautary action q the government.
shall not have been fulfilled all attempt NJ organization
In tho Kingdom viii fat. tho hand before the
obtases which the prescott disorders have hher,o op
posed u and the other before tho moral encourage
ment which the hope Of active Intervention from
abroad shoaf necessarily bring 70 the widest aspirations
Of the insnrrection.
Il depends much The great Powers dssa,c those
us dsappnt those Calculations and 10 accelrraie
the term nation OF this situation. taking into
consideration that essential side Of the q.cstion which.
IN our opinion, makes y dagger 10 Europe We shall
always be disposed 10 exchange IDEAS this subject
with each of them IA The course " our dI onatc relations
with the sincere desire Of arriving at understand
ns IA 10 the deliberations at conference IN which s tie
Powers thf sgnef the general treaty % Vienna Jule
o. lsi5, hould take part wo 10 not shut eyes 70 the
interest which those Powers ought 60 take IN the pre-
situation " that country iDasm lch disturb
the general repe and equilibrium founded by the treaty
In which thew l0ok part nor d. Ne coest their reha
views But cannot admit either the opportuns
ness the pftctc,i ntiityb submitting 20 their de-
details o. the administration a the kingdom. No great
Power could accept snrh direct interference IA inter.
nal aGfs AMI besides, u " MT esther the spirit
the letter u existing treaties and would only the
elect " throwing back the pncllestion o. which
wishes ard the efforts ~ tho Powers toniiuS, by
ercasng the preiensons OF tho Polish aettrs W al the
prestige which Il would from Tho sovereign au.
tbori,y toup. de Rechbcrg n makias hts evcntlal al
bcsiln dependent on such con bina0n the PREVIOUS
consent % the Russian Cabinet has himself forsseen
With sentiment n ds1Hy which august master has
fully appreciated The impos.ihiity o our afmitiinz
IL. We grnudei - recu, -ze Ia this
proof N the friendly dislpsnHs ~ the Cabinet n vi
euna, and evidence Of the Justice With winch Count
de Kecnbcrg ridges the situation.
The curse which followed In 1915 70 ~ -
Indicate cisrly the De berSons which be establish
20 81 questions Affecting. ca the Gus hind general IN
teret and on tbs other administrative details Ia the
elusive domain q the cpLlrming sovereign states. Al
that time distinction was practically established b.
twe-n these two caiegorirs Of interests. Inc fee
ne oot Of s7nrar rDsaiors NJ par' ~ ne courts ~
Rygsd, aHffrf1 AMI prEia, Lreen iChirh N. frdfiio
~ hzory. psrmaneps osl1s and ,mgs>'iils aegatmhoi
created chs s.tirrifv Al the arrangements destined
regulate the internal admin straton and mutual ra
lions of the Polish terrtores pacei under their rsspc
tive domination since the Congress Of venns
bodied 10 separate treaties concluded directly between