, 1863-05-07
THE CLERICAL lNlBR0GLI0.
ANOTHER EXTENSIVE LEAK,
Full Testimony or John Hukc- and
J. McKcnno1.


hearing Of the testimony Of Francis Cag"in,
Joliet banker, md Of John Young, OF Man
hattan. The former is one Of the pasty men
toned By the witnesses as being present du'
ring Mr.. uager's visit to tho house Of Law
renee, John Young resides about mile
from Nj. Lawrence, and Was with the party
during that "moonlight walk" alluded to
By the lady witnesses. Their testimony,
when published, will speak for itself
The Court manifested great surprise at tile
appearance Of the testimony Of Rev. Mr.,
Locke, in to'day's paper, as they had sup.
posed the United States Circuit Court room
inFenetrable, and that for once the reporters
were defeated. With al the efforts constant
1y being made, It will be seen by the testimo-
ny Of Messrs, Baker and McKcnnon herewith,
that the 1eak is not yet stopped, but rather
increasing. The testimony has now all been
published, In the course in which 1t was dc.
liyered, up to Tuesday evening, the extraor-
dinary efforts of the Court to the contrary
notwithstanding.
EVIDENCE OF JOHN c. BAKER.
As before stated, The examination OF Nj.
Baker WAS made on Monday afternoon-the
the Court to Joliet. he is 3 brother of Miss
Helen Baker, and resides ut Manhattan. As
his evidence clearly shows, be vas present
with Mr.. Hager during his visit, after the 81
legged insults are said to have been pespetra-
ted, and testiAes that Mrs. White was on
friendly terms with him, and that she was re-
ma1kab1y polite and eocjable with Mr., Haser,
dcyoting her attentions and conversation
most exclusively to him, during that visit.
The following is synopsis Of Mr.. Bakers
testimony, which will be deemed Of consider
able importance:
I}net became acquainted with Mr.. Aagcr during
gust list. Have known The family OF Edward Law
thcir bouee Oh the evening Of Wednegday, the Sd
MaeeP and ny sster HeIcn. We wen vent 1here 10 cali
| was there but Mr.. Edward Lawrence, who said the
ard they coon came In. The ladies' were Miss
| Olive Lawrence, Mrs. White and two ladies' from
| Chicago whom had never eecn before Mrs.
down. Miss Lawrence sat on the opposite side oil
the room from the door, near where was. Mrs
White sat down on the sofa on whict
:hink that vas. on the west sise Of the room m,
the other ladies sat on the north side. We stait
there about half an hour. During that time hrs
brought something which she handed to M Ha.ei
and then eat down by him again on the sofa. Nj
Hager wsa sitting on the sofA when the 1adie
Sa I as h ia aae s g'e9%f %e nm Ren aad ad
dows by him on the sofa at once. When we lei
the house, fonc Of the ladies went ont With ns.
went out last. The time Of tho visit was spent /
Ms. White coa1efsed with H. naser more tn
s,ss as ey nv d
There vss general shakius Of handa ut parting
and the = good night" was exchanged between q
psce ser
returning to The room. do not think Miss Law
renee went out while We were there. Miss Law
an quite positive that no one else sat upon ii:
sofa besides Mrs. White and Mr. H6ger.
THs11xoNx OF J. N'E1ssoS-p1REcT EIAA1S
| Tlox.
: Q-Do you know Mrs, Sarah E. White Of vi
:. county! II yon please, state when you made h
e acquaintance, and ali tie Circumstances conncctt
: with yons making her accuaintances
Al DO not know that know Mra; Sarah
county, whom drst met o. The caTs between he
and Chicago, on the morning Of the sth OF Jauti
a r., 1sss, as near IS remember, and subsequent
t q the 9Th of January, 1863 LEFT Chicago for J
r 1iet, where arrived ut clock on the moralng
The h or pn5 The dy q sas
n Hotel Of this city, handed NE chica
Tribune containing a,.rceport 81 nsoceedin
l. h had 4, before some Justice Of The Pea
Lawrence and Perrlgo on the Rev. Mr.. Haser.
c subsequently purchased from 2 newsboya 7f49u
attention 70 the report published IN the newspap'
Il and asked me i'll knew Rev. Mr Haeer Ianswer
o did nos-had never known the name before to II
names appeared in the report: :swere, Of t
highest refpectabi1ity. Afterwards, and dur
Is The taIne day, I was in the ottiGe q :,
the hotel. He handed me an album containt
h Of q & M We lie l. 9s os os
TO House: IexaInined tho picture very closely.
he the following day, On ny way to Chicago, at
~ place-1 don't know the name Of the station
IN lady came On board Of the cars and tooI seat
= rcct,y in front Of the scat on which was scat
that hat u poe perron hsd net Seore asHe
~, foldicr behind me, and who came on board at
ps T. did is,t he .s knew tic It'd ;ay Wts Sd vas
the other side Of the cars. asked hrF il she wo'
her te * tbe Whe se
Soon afterwards remarked to the lady that II
OF were haxir:, some considerable trouble ut Chic:
~, stated to the ady that although lived il Ghica
Ike did not know and had ncver heard OF .Hsgcr
mt fore. The lady remarked to me that she knew
I Il.
IN nice gentleman. That is I'll that was ead betw
~ ~ Q-Had you further conversation with her
:ssjssts; Il g, Please ssaie What wss' @
ed Al think we had no more conversation =
tally. We talked some on other subjects gene
y on the climate t1s appearance % Of tn tat West
The tahns IN gene general and that the lady told me
crv had lived u considerable time In New York.
~ Q.-Have you met the lady since that nay.
sn sad %neas w.t. 5e
timef -.........
arg A.-1mct her at the Burnett House in this
-. was some three or four weeks since. sau h.
unt the Burnet House parlor and said to her thst
zee called as witness In the ecclesiastical trial,
IN led iHas o. % that day q week. and IN o,de.
mt. ttve mJeelf future journey. wanted
10, become satisfied whether She vas the same pei
G In not; and remarked to her Was very we'll 8:
ted fed she was the same person. Mira White sal
me that she had distinct recollection Of mex
nan 10 her that she must have heard OK NE thsoagh
friend, MI. Cook. ] stated to her that told
hs to ge.%t heE S
lay. inre ce hcr ch.rsttcf before liz public Ms.
sa Wss ie G q IN
to her that nothing could be worae thsn to
or her character pa1aded before tho public In con
leaa wonld in he Recorder 8 Court 1then begged
.ion Whites pardon for ca}lng In the manner did
ap- hoped the woqld not consider me an intruder
lists o.ETieate state in what ma nner the mcctin
rds, tween Joy and h1ns White At the bufnet d
the Al met a gentleman, clerk, OF don't i
r' orents; aeked him il Mrs. White was Sta
aen' there. lMr. Chickering here raised an obIe'
tier, TO the snswcr and wanted II ruled ont along
It to nj MT snstancd1 9 '4e 4'' 1"0
prt- Q,-nare y6u nov stated ~ that ocsa1set
tween you sId Mr. White White at ,th Tie p. pusnet AZ
Is he the utual fo,mality Of the introduction.
~ III H. Gm and ss
statement Of MIS-. White respecting his hs
announced himself BY sending his card to
Tors, room ehonld be dieproven the prosecution Ct
Tn, ed to the question being answered, and the 81
sustained the objcction.}
one CROSS EXAMINATION.
ab1- Q.-Nhat time in the day did you first 81
Eery Joliet the newspapers Of which you have he he
opo- teek upon III usecr1 ~
d It. Al think IT was abont noon
CHICAGO Tn1nrNE Of lii, 7th Of Januaryi
give A.-1n The otEce Of the hotel.
and E-From a neysboy.
=. It Q.-What time in the day did you make tna
MD chase; was 1t before Of s3ter dinner, and
4'is: II III thinE It was about noon. but don't
Tn. 1ect whether 1t Was before OF after dinner
=" bert recollection iB that 1t YVES after dinner
were Ql-Was it the paper issued on the day
which you purchased It!
Al was the paper dated tho 7tb Of Jan
| don't know when It WAS issued. ...-'
Berg, Q-Was tho 7th Of January the day on
N.EThni II my best recollection.
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