The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1863-08-07

him "wth view getting bui IN This -onntr,
Great Bu;aul for The eosernment PC STAT
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any person to act agent o. as the sssn 81 ne Nav
b. without the l.its OF the United s'a
"' GiDEoS wELLEs, Secretary d the Nav.
Mr.. LAIRD was prepared TO prove that every word hs
his proofs the hands OF the noble lord at tho head the
| government. (Hear) The honorable gentleman stated
that the Alabama went out with a picnic party, bt hS
had ascerned that she went out of dock night thai
anchored in the river unt eleven or twelve ocl ok
next day aud that she was seen from the shore by thou
sands OF persons MIR. CoHnRS-She had clearance
1t was not necessary TO take a Gle rance The owner
might either clear her take register The cours.
pursued was 10 hand the builders certificate to III,
owner and then he might do what he liked with her
great deal OF blame had been cast upOn the English gov
eminent but what had been the orders given by m,
American government to the luscarora2 She was run
ming about the country after the Alabama but o. der
were given to her not to touch the Alabama the han
MEL Mr. Adams, IN letter to Mr. Seward, dated Angus
7, 1862, said
On the same day received by mail a from Captain
GO &c f int sn.s a Of %
sor s INST CAPTAIN Craven seems 70 have sailed St
made In forsetful9ess q arsdc
On aSs had be found Mo- go that had
should not consider T. good policy 70 attempt her capture
70 every chance Of his
The honorable member stated that the Alabama had
never been in Confederate port but that
long she carried the Confederate commission
II we were &C war with America aud the admiral tho
North American station captured vessels that likely
10 be useful did the honorable gentleman suppose that he
would be obliged to send them into Portsmouth harbor
and wait for their RETURN No; the moment vessel re-
became recognized vessel ofwar and must be 90 re-
garded proof that the American government admit
that they had recognized the bonds given by the
officers OF the ships seized and liberated by the Alabama
They thus recognized the whole proceeding under which
she became Confederate vessel and received o Con.
federate commission and they could not back H.
(Hear hear The memorial presented by the honorable
gentleman was signed by thirty the shpowners Of
Liverpool They might be very respectable persons; but
they were too small number TO claim represent the
shpowners OF Liverpool Many Of those who had
signed It had. he was told done 80 with the
understanding that other nations were TO do the
same. II had been proposed to make the law
for building ship should prove for whom she was
intended. But there this difference between ships
poses while cannon and muskes could only turned to
one use The Northern States got all they wanted from
this country. They imported largely arms and am-
muntion, and at the time they wished to stop
legitimate branch Of industry As a proof how easily
vessels built for purposes Of commerce might be convert
cd into he might mention that 1859 he
thought desirable to strengthen local deences or
each port BY adopting the ferry boats tug and steam
fore the Admiray and also before LORD Herbert. BY
whom It was warmly taken up. Offering to adapt forty
fifty Of these vessels at expense of from hundred
ana fifty to three hundred pounds to the or
fence The Admiralty sent down talented ocer Of the
navy, who made survey, and reported that tor two
might be made to carry thirty others six
ty eight pOunders then the efficient gun In the SER
small adapt her to carry some Of the largest guns
Of the service. While the honorable gentleman 1Mr
Cobden was turning his attention to the breach or
Foreign Enlistment act he could have wished had
made inquiries into the enlistment Of for the federal
army that was now going on IN Ireland he would advise
with the American Minister on this point no might do
get deal OF good to the people OF Ireland The honoa-
bio gentleman however persisted in seeing only side
given strong opinion that the law was on the side Of
those who had built the Alexandra The honorable mem
Der had vonched for the readiness OF the Americans
abstain from infringing the law In this respect. He
wished however, relate to the House what took place
In regard to the Americas vessel which built,
which taken out by Captain Hudson Petropauovski
Tor the Russian government Captain Hudson
Of a. ri. . %
& fs Hs ana &
would have swept the Pacific Of the English vessels.
In confirmation Of this statement no would read me.
morandum made by an officer on board the Savannah
.. s' IN KID
he q the EsSs and md lying
would moi permit They then determined
w.s co%usnaer Of he uussa sas: squadron wna
Rlo in ne fis.ts savannah order America
Tsye.isS ne English ana French searching
ns e i e1
70 an navy =!
Lastly. officer Of the British Navy stated in let
tor
The = laid n the he Pse0 river week. during
Count Putisne flying the signing Of the treaty OF Ten
a been % n sss e
She had an American eagle on her stern.
50 far from the American government keeping faith
with that Of Great Britain during the with Russia,
they allowed the America 70 get away and orders
the English and French officers (IIear hear.)
Lord PALxERsroN sad-sir, have listened with great
attention 70 the speech Of my honorable freud the
hapf orR nrhd ala hut IN hat M md
her MAjestys government, and think the country at
large start IN the consideration OF the matter which
he has directed the attention OF the House from different
points OF departure. We look upon the parties who
In against each other in America each OF
neutral position concerned TO all the privileges and
rights which appertan u beigerents. Now IL to
that that which rs running in the head OF the honora
bic gentleman and which guides and directs the whole OF
his reasoning is the feeling, although perhaps disguised
to HIMSELF that the Union still in legal existence that
there are not in America two bcgcrent parties but
a legitimate government and rebellion against that
government. Now, that places the two parties
il is our duty to consider them Now. what is the
duty Of neutral in regard TO two belliserents, and
what the rights OF neurass The American govern
ment have laid down the position for themselves be.
cause they have declared that neutral Is liberty
furnish bsgorent with anything that tho beligercnt
may choose 70 buy-whether u be ships arms, ammun
ton or anything else, no restriction imposed
neutral in furnishing beleorcnt with those things
operations Therefore no international law has the
federal any right whatsoever 70 complain OF
this any other country that may supply . party Ia
against tho fcderas with anything they choose
70 buy cannot in the abstract concur with my homo
rable friend IN thinking that there Is any distinction In
principle between muskets gunpowdcr, bullets aud
non on the one aide and ships on the other (IIear)
Those things by which IL carried on, and you
equally assisting belgerents by supplying
them with muskets, cannon and ammunition, you
by furnishing tn with ships that 70 operate in tho
What has besn the practice OF the United States
government themselvcsy The honorable member for
Brkenhcad has alluded 10 the q ship built 10 the
United States whom were nj war with Russia We
companed and the ship examined and declared by
the local authorities be free from any ground
cstaton Nevertheless there the best reason for
believing that the snip destined for the Russian gov
ernmen and naval operations In the Eastern seas
whore the Russian government most wanted such ass
lance We had reason 20 believe that other shs were
then building In Amcrc for the purpose and would
have been used II the had continued Therefore
hold that the ground OF international law bel
lgerents have right to complain II merchants
do not say the government, that would be inter.
fcrence-as a mercantile transaction, supply II
the beecrcnts, not only with and cannon. but
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