Daily State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1861-1865, 1863-07-23

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mea in this country Why. sir. the poor men Of
this country have GOT 20 20 They can not fur
nigh this money. he leaves il % the discretion
Of The Secretary Of War TO say that, il man
pays hity dollars in money. he neei not furnish
substitute: but II he pays fifty dollars in money
he Is TO be discharged from the draft. What is
the man 70 do who can not pay fifty dollars in
money! De has got TO 70. Are you for passing
law that shall compel a man 70 90 and meet
the foes Of his country upon the battle field aud
undergo the hardshDs of a campaign. its dangers
aud its exposures, When he can not raise fifty dol
lars. and release the man who can raise fifty or
three hundred dollars from going or paving that
sum Of moneyl l. is not provision In favor OF
the poor men Of this country. They cannot buy
the right 10 stay AZ home
Mr. Wilson. Of Massachusetts-flow are they
going TO get a substituted
Mr. Trumbull-They will 90; they cannot get
a substitute. they do not employ substitute
Your bill does not provide for poor mans get
ting a substitute; and he can not get substitute
unless he can furnish a sum which shall be fixed
nv the Secretary of War. which shall not exceed
$500 The poor men OF the country. when
drafted. have got to enter the service: but the
man Of property. when he is drafted. pays his
money and escaped going into the service. Now
] would prefer having il that every person drafted
shall be compelled 10 perform the service, or let
him make his own arrangements about getting a
substitute The Senator saws if that is the case
the price OF substitutes will be very high Pri-
vate enterprise will regulate itself on that subject
II this amendment be adopted. person who is
so situated that he can not 90. or does not want
20 enter the service for some reason or other. If
he has the means. may employ substitute in his
place; but would not say 10 the people of this
country, when was passing general bill to
bring into the service all able bodied men of
the nation All of you who can pay 5000
shall escape the service, and all those who can
not must be drafted. and compelled to enter the
service
Mr. Sherman of Ohio Republican, said among
other things:
| know there will be n little clamor made
about allowing a man to exempt himself by Civ
Ing money; but take il, we are above clamor,
or should BE prepared TO meet IT, In +" r'l;.~-
law, The Jaw of substitution is part vi IL. and
must be 81. Everybody admits that The Sen
ator from Illinois himself admits it. If we allow
the principle of substitution. we must take that
system which, while il furnishes Us with the best
soldier, will be the least burdensOme TO the
drafted person; and | think that system is the
one which fixes the price of the substitute at the
standard price which man who comes forward
and offers himself = substitute will be entitled
to receive from the Government of the United
States.
There is another reason When a person is
drafted, and that person presents a substitute, he
/ pays at once TO the substitute gross sum OF
money, and very often the substitute squsnders
that money before he assumes the burden of mil
| tary duty, which, if left 10 a general
law and general regulation, the Score
tary OF War might very well say. when
/ he EMPLOYS substitute, that portion
of the money should not be paid until the end of
| m 4.
just as. under the present system, bounties are
paid. In every possible point OF view, therefore
as this is AN important question. say it is better
that there should be fixed price fora substitute
| and let the law stand a il H. | do not want "a
see 50 much h,ctuation in the terms Of this very
! important law | believe the cOnscrntiOn will
snve this country. Ever since its passage, | have
had more confidence in the success OF our arms,
and in The final triumphant termination Of the
war | therefore think il is law that ought not
20 be tempered with. except for strong reasons
The provisions of the law will soon be understood
10y the people. and believe they will respond tc
/ il with patriotic ariOr. We ought not to change
the provisions Of the law, except for strong rea
sons
Mr. Trumbull-The law has not gone into
force vet
Mr. Sherman-But still il has been published
al over the country and is pretty well understood
llink, therefore, u ought HOt 10 Oe Cuan1cu
except for strong reasons.
Mr.. Richardson. dem IL can not but say
that am very much delighted with the proceed
ings OF to day We passed in hot haste. | think
last Saturday night. conscription bill. and we
have already had two propositions TO amend il by
| gentlemen who voted for il | think IL we 81,
here two or three DAYS more we shall have prop
osltions to amend other portions OF that bill
and / think by the next session of Congress
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| gether
Mr.. Wilkinson, XIV IL hope this amendment
OF the Senator from Illinois will he adopted |,
seems to me. it the bill stands "a it now does, il
will operate in favor of that class Of our popula
ton who are able 10 pay the price fixed fol
substitutes and il will operate very hard against
those who not able to pay. would rather
| that the money clause in the original bill should
be stricken out. this bill provides. and leave
the party To furnish his substitute a. is therein
provided. There are many reasons for this Ii
seems to me that advantage will be taken OF
this provision by that class OF people. and the,
are quite numerous. who are endeavoring 20
make everything the Government is doing un
popular with the people.
Mr. Wilson. Mass They do not succeed
/ very well. though
Mr. Wilkinson-I hope they do not | believe
\ there j. too much patriotism ia the people To nj.
low them 10 succeed very well in their attempt
! AT the time. far my voice aud INV
vote 20. | would rather remove all objection and
/ all ground for cavi against this any other law
that we may pass to put down the rebellion
! thought the other day when !. was proposed
to subject members of Congress To- this draft
that il was wrong because considered that the
/ Constitution set them apart Tor specific duty;
but Congress was so bent on making this law
universal, making IL y popular law. that although
there are hut two or three Senators who would
fall within this law. they we're determined they
should be liable TO this c0nscrpton act Now
van, To strike out this money clause, and il | am
drafted. want 10 20 | do not want 20 buy my
way out of the army with $50. or 500. or $500
see no reason why men OF wealth. men who are
abundantly able TO pay the price pre-cribei by
the proper department, should not risk their lives
~ defense OF their country Just ~ we'll as the men
Who cannot raise $500 They are the very men
who should 30, because, il anything they have a
greater interest IN the maintenance nf the Gov
erumcnt AMI in the suppression Of this rebellion
than any other class, AID they ought to fight il
out
The Presiding Oficer-The question is on
the amendment OF the Senator from Illinois
Mr. Trumbull) to the amendment Of the com
mi'tee
The result was then announcel-yeas 10. nays
p. a. follows:
Mes.r. Grimes Harlan How. Lane of
Indiana. Powell salisbury. Ten Eyck Trum-
bull, Wilkinson. aud Wilson OF Missour--l0
rHE worn To srRlKt our ruE s3O0 CLAUSE