The New York herald., 1863-11-20

loft TO fon,ent ts. with h0llsr q s.AyA4 s-.Ass-i
slrs2 party there was that were contributing directly %
ths plercsts Of savory Thoro ID yer was inispoaQy
more sgna thar that OF the British pohc as
IL tnoir loading intelligent classes s conflict lhese
mover was case where by iis up or csses went
unquostiouably In favor OF slavery, at III saa' s
tha tLey occupied themselves 40 tho nlensest aenuncla
Solg Of slqvorY Under euch circumstances We c- you
recoect drifting right toward war told the hfitish ~
was there was sOmeth ing this struggle dear
aud Indispensable TO tho rational iiio that ga
that there should be interference aLler tnan
Ihat there should be disruption and dismembormen a
with the fall OF this republic free govern
lent shoud FALL we would stand war with Great Bri
tain France aad Europe (Loud cheess.) 1t would have
dGOut say this without the appearance threat
cd reIiersted Charges brought sgalpst mo or hny.
ben SoSosS M u w GWh GSSG aod a. s5s,, q hTs
iuil part or the PROPORTION Of that ind snetion
had never desired war but abhorrod IT. but that held
tbo great principles OF free republican government 10 DO
90 preo os that would not give them up not even at
che threat tho nctiOn Of who brought
s. upoa (Cheers) What thenG This being the cruel
disappointment We experienced IN our expectations Of
sympalhy from Great Britain you may ask me what did
Sound be the facts and conditions OF things found
IN the 6rst place. on going there. that every man that
but this the division that they have themselves made,
ana these the terms applied They are Scutherners
srd kortherncrs even more than are here. found
chat tho railways nhe boats in tue hotels wherever
there was travelling public, there was public that
symplthzcd with the South and were adverse TO the
North was not an uncommon thing TO bear gentemoo
talked freely and kindly with me OF other matters
uloNussoNy
Got by the iast steamer" said what news being a
litls troubled g" understand that Msade has driven
Dend much bad news, ead (itenoWed laugh
tur) Bot seengs people that almost Homogeneous
and hear well dressed well bred Of ordinary IN
t5leenco congatuiating themselves on tho disasters
South but sach is the csse. Not young
viii return been travelling but VIII bring back
tls account wherever ho almost every man that
mot was against the North and favor or the south
You imagine what impression made undor 'ho
circumstances. There is no queation about the natter
ehis old English pecpe, thus old British na9u IS all
agsns. Go whore you wiI up or down, you VIII hrd
mind On still further inquiry was disappointed 20 hnd
that those whom supposed would have night 70 lean
upon not TO be leaned upon-i mean tho dssout-
ing body Of Christians, that denomination 10 which
myself boonsed-the OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES as In
arc sol for a testimony freedom and have been
arrsyed almost invariably the side Of struggling people
find tnem right. did not do not mean that there IL
not very large part of that body that perhaps are right
shall menton by and by; bus sorry 20 say that
did and tho Influential and leading ciegymen Of that
our SIDE fey said that they sympathized with liberty
yea they sympathzed with liberty just exactly as icis
sou 70 60 them. said to them, 81 want no
such rrgd sympathy; want nothing II IL can't come
good and don't want It, found also the most pro
ignorance Of affairs and the operation Of our
sss oan.o, nesence found the most active
unscrupulous efforts made at Southern TO stir up
better served than there by those menS that
Che South bad has put forth every particle OF
forth their strength So it abroad. Where
one man to England to influence public opinion they
Snssoo they ihey had library Of them, and where
we touched ono spring they touched q hundred
with tho unsrring instinct OF selnshness and despotsn
know just whore to undermine the generous and better
feelings just invoke the cloud Of influence aud
Just whore 70 touch men that principle should fail and
profit take its place (Appause.) You may imagine my
friends on every SD that the great hear, Of
sho Brsh nation was on our SIDE; h'd i
found noSoay except .ne .osy s throw
had iouna mos. nobody that spoke kindly Of US or ha.
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sss ycs ere Z ~ r.: Wss,s va s1s'ssS ssSsS
ef1Ryi ssIa i ~ E ss1G Wis., v,s.s s Ess.
- g s ,,tsIs s,sa e'Ss &. gsssiss gsos:is.a: ~
s:s..,!ss1 ss1 tss ana cnds,..nd ~ 70 soss: In n
~ q . Brak1 aaiicn IS with Of the North. p' o
Sse ~ mo take up one par. Q, society M stSr an n n
1sf6ere q tho srca, commercial class Of England, icy
loss that arc making money and those that have made
10y arc re- against US In the afss psoe ;nsfs ;s1 s1
q large class Of men that are actively ,y pI
pepi prncpies-( -(aushter)-and they are making or az
pose that hoy are making large fortunes We cannot M
~ a. men for precisely the opposite reasons op g
ssou 70 tho North and in favor Of the South viz -Ihosc 20
AcCuktOucu
Ais inisrruptng war stopped their profits The men
Aa want 70 make money and dontthey are opposed 20
Dewecn two classes lies great intermediate one
rnec that bewdsrcd aua are perpleSed who gee "
LAT business less affected, az u Is over me "
Sss Tssy 0y say ~ %WSon win this war cnd
as the oaensiys Is on, on The The, s, NorneIn orlSss
|e the South the Will stop. 80 IN the main ihey :,
d agaIns, US; and it may be laid down that while .
rough Engiand-men that stand up Of their Glaze above
ana against h-yet, speaking comprenensEe.(, ths a,
Numerical class OF England are against the Noftn ana
mvor Of the South. have spoken Of the religion y
bpIe. II is very difficult for me 70 sna,yle & h lne
sSIished church and the dsscnters, in respcc, 6
thor mos, Influential mon, against us. 20 l =
TX II Is. I do not think u 90 ~ respect 70 .
Iaymen--all OF them bat the infentai Iaymen y
the most influential cersymen, an iniorNed are n
ferse 70 body. Tho ground usually YAK u IS y
tha, the North Is not sincere; and secondly that
a great sin and nowhere ese Ia THIS world V mere 4
ender y conscience the subject OF war as IN sc =
tain when she s not waslns II tl..ush.erl sne
7 believe, only three wars on hand n.w-Japan,
ia and Australia or somewhere--uo matter Wnere
and tho rest OF her leisure she occupies WIN poolha
trot aud horror at this American war. II " "as /.
snip ou the sea, she was ,s,I,,aTy rea1y % rs
ts island In the Antarctic sea, she was re,It Z
To 10 with the savases II II was 70 beat ao"a iho
of cscusion IN ran she had objection 70 burn
Ia city OF hundred aud nty th9usaad inhaoi-
o., but when people make war Tor theT own terf.
a Tor tho Foundation which they build their ils'
tpns, aod Tor everything that di5niies lm,nhy my
SID wondering Why men will make war. (iAeshtr |
! sorry 20 say that While the friends who have al
vss maintained, as against their own country coz
cant TO- mOny against war Anios from ieni Nhl' "u
sn were the most querulous our war were the men
1hHhad no particular objection TO the Crimcan war,
motto the opium war IN China, and told them
thfo their faces In Exier Hhl-ibet there Was not
ts IN the globe against which they had not cashed
chr bloody PROV and that their very Tag was tue ~
Dec war Mr.. Iescher won't 10 say that ne Eng
a noty az a class against us; but DC would read
o. and By some honorable exceptions sud tor obvious
so1s We were not accustomed ~ es'imate the eiect
sour example upon European Institutions Mbue TINS
Ehc nation progressing " dd no' leei lhe jar
"a making upon thrones. The Saturday, hcrs0 stated
ka, endinx American deas and examples working "a !
Ia, nrita,u they were obliged, M order 20 de!st
koss iieas M England 70 sta.k " " A4elio. The
tgsh ar stocracy had an unerriug instinct that gov.
:. ~at can be 80 efficient such continent ard 40
pm, ,aap how can they maintain 70 complicated
~ srss 70 iE5sanmsn1 We, .,e Tsriod q ear
PsoutIS Sry War Of ndependesee ,e9 sIn ' ss
..,,-sd U VOTE we're takcn the members wond Npt9