Holmes County farmer. [volume] (Millersburg, Ohio) 1857-1926, 1863-05-14

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any notes during the delivery of the speech or are
: ou testiiyirg from memory2
A took no minutes during'the delivery of the
speech; but after Mr.. Pendloton began speaking
went TO the hotel, perhaps an hour aud a half af.
terward, and wrote some Minutes of the speech
! Q-You speak o! my saying that "the North
tight have been won back" was il not that the
South might have been won back, &o1
A-Noi | noticed this particularly, and IL
struck me very forcbly.
Mr. Nallandgham--If said it, It must have
beet slip Of the tongue.
Q-N ou say that said would not counsel re
sistan2e to military or civil law. Did not ex.
pressy counsel the people to obey the Consttut ion
and all law, and to pay properrespect to men in au
thorily' and to maintain their political rights
+ through the judicial tribunals of the country and
in that way to rebubc aud put down the Admins
tration and all usurpatons of rower7
! A-Not in that come cton lie said at the last
Of his speech, TO come up to the ballot. box and
huil the tyrant from his throne.
Odd he not counsel them to submit to all
law7
A-No, sir; | didn't understand him to counsel
the people to submit to the authorities at all times
can't remember that he used the language of
the question or the substance of t as stated
Odd not say that my authority to speak to
the people in public assemblagos, all public
questions, was not derived from General Order
ton of the United States, General Washington
commandng2
} Al understood him to say that his authority
to speak to the people was higher than General
Order No. 3S Of that mobbing despot, Gen. Burn
sdei it war Order No. /, signed by Geo. Wash
ington.
Q-Were not the three names of Tod, Lincoln
and ulnsdc used together and that didn't ask
THEN consent to speak2
A--At another time he used those words.
Q-Were not the remarks you say made about
despisng, splitting upon and tramping under foot,
n expressly applied in reference to arbitrary power
generally; and didn't !, III that connection, refer
: to General Order No. 9, in Indiana, signed by
% Cen Hascall, denying the right to crticse the
! war policy of the Administration?
i A-The remarks in regard to despisng, splitting
, upon, trampling under foot, were made in direct
Il reference to Order No. 1S. He sometime after
. ward, in speaking Of the tyranny of the Admins
u ration, said that an order had been issued in In.
II diana, denying the people the right to criticise
&c the military policy Of the Administration, and il
e submitted to it would be followed by civil war in
u, Ohio.
er Q-Do you undertake to give any conncc ted OF
Is methodica statement Of the speech on that occa
IN sion.
-, Judge Adyocate-The Court can judge as tC
VI that point, but they may answer.
III A do not pretend to give the speech COM
II mencing with the first and giving it just as he
V, spoke it.
st Mr. Valendigham then asked the same qucs
d. tim he asked the form witness, with reference
to the way in which he went to the meeting, anC
Tt' in addition whether he went there to report th
speech for the purpose Of a prosecution unde
l. General Order No. IS.
i'll Al did not
II. Q-Wcrc any reason given you why you shou
he go there to report the speech.
w. The Judge Advocate objected to such question
f,r thp rp1s hat pViIputly
M for some other purpose than to subserye the end
X of iustice in the trial
IN. o. will put the question in this way then
Was any object stated to you, and if so, what?
NO A-Ihcre no object stated.
,ly The Judge Advocate here rested his evidence
,Iy Mr.. Vallandgham asked recess offifteen MN
MS utes for the purpose of consultation with his law
yers, at the close of which he proceeded with til
he testimony on his behalf
n TESTIMONY OF 5. S. cox.
he Q-By Mr. Vallandigham; Were you presen
81 ar the public meeting in Mt. Vernon, on Friday
hd May ], leG32
on Al was present as one of the speakers
,ol heard the whole of the speech; stood on til
platform, near him, so that | could not fail t
on hear all that he said; | had not heard him spea
Tue since the adjournment of Congress, and as | cam
ON in from the West, did not know that he va
sue there; took especial interest in listening to h
inc spccch throughout; and having to follow him,
Odd you hear his illusions to Gen Burnsd,
NY and if so, what were they?
A-Thc only yalluson that he made to the Gcl
cral was, think, in the beginning ofhis specC
I re in which he said that he not there by the fl
u vor o! Abraham Lincoln David Tod or Gener,
icy Ambrose f.. Burnside.
Q.--Was any epithct applied to him during til
y" spccch2
A-No, sir. If there had been should hay
oh' noticed ill., because Gen. Burnside was an old pc
vi. sonal friend of mine. ! should have remembers
was any odious cpthet applied to him.
, Odd YOU hear the reference to General D
'l'c der "a, and if so, what were the wordsl
Sht A--The only reference that was made to thI
YES order was something to this effect: that he didn
III recognize i don't know that | can quote it.
X Order No. 5S superior to order No |, the Coz
stitution. | don I know as this is the Language
thought it very handsome point at the time.
"' Q--Were any violent epithcts, such as ESP
IL upon =" 'uampe under foot, and the like, used
any time III the speech in reference to that ord
No. IS?
ant Al can't recollect any dcnuncatory cpithe
o' applied to that order Ii there any CRITICS
made upon it, it was mentioned above, in the r
our mark about tue constitution. Mr.. Vallanlig ha
discussed these matters very briefly. He toe
10 up most OF his time on another point, in come
'hc ton with the question of closing the war /
charged that the men in authority had it in the
power if they were willing, to make peace. |
10 exhausted some time in reading from MOntgome
Blair, and Fomey; and also stated that the
-, were private proofs, yet to be developed, al
nv which time would disclose, proving his statemer
- He bitterly denounced any attempt to make pea
by a separation of the States.
hot Q-Do you remember to what, il at all,
connection with future uSurpations of powc
ten he applied his strongest language
ard Al can't say as to the strongest languag
war for he always speaks pretty strongly. He d
the nounced any usurpation of power to stop pu
ace lie discussion and the suffrage. He appealt
, if to the people to protect their rights, as Il
ac. remedy for their grievances. He warnt
the them against violence and revolution.
the powerful means OF tho ballot box
this might be remodied that was wrong of pu
for lie nature, and the Courts would remedy
, to grievances Of private, personal nature.
cen Q-Was any thing said by him at all, lool
ing to forcble resistance of either law or m
1int itary orders
the A--Not is | understood it.
ian Q-Was any thing said by him in denunG
alton of the Conscription law
had Any best recollection is that he did,
ed say word about it.
nth Odd he refer to the French Conscripti
nat bill
lch' Ale did not l spoke of itmyself.
rB Q--Do you remember his comments on Il
not change in the policy Of the war