New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1863-12-11

between protection and freetrade is ended. doubt.
less there remain other things to do; children must
carry on the work There s still the question Of direct
and indirect taxatiOn there is still the question Of
reduction in the expenditure Of the Government bnt
the great controversy between protection and free trade
is now settled fCbeers / say the next Parliament
will require be endowed with new principles by the
country when have another general election.
Cheers Some people say that there great apathy
any want Of interest in the country upon pubic anars
think there is lively interest in the public proceed
gs OF the whole world ana tue Pae;c % tha nv
eDon Of the country is rather given to the affairs %
other nations than to its own. (Hear; hear. We
dale '' as Borough, II Your Town Council were
pretty generally occupied in discussing the
affairs Of Preston Blackburn Manchester instead Of
their own. Hear hear That is the state Of public
opinion in this country and it is curious enough
that while are dey0ting more than ever Of onx
attention 70 foreign politics, we are still constantly
protesting the principle Of non-intervcnton. We have
non interse DtOn upon lips. but there Is always
a desire for d little Intervention in the corner Of
our hearts for special object or other abroad.
do charge this against any particular party or
government We have all little projects Of interven.
ton. Some will manage the affairs Of the Americans:
others will take in charge the regulation Of the aarsof
Poland others interested in Italy and so that in
spite Of professions Of we are In fact
think fras my ovcrvaton goes interfering more than
ever in the affairs foreign countries Some people ye
is the telegram Laughter They say that Reuters tee>
gram daily morning dram. AID II 80 stimulates the
palate with corcusson Of the brain from America,
you have not the taste for the simple ailments OF which
your domestic affairs are made up lCheersJ At the
present moment there party IN this country actively
advocating interference in the affairs OF America.
Hear hear. When say Interference, mean we have
party here who advocating either recognition OF
something which means interference II II means any
thing Hear. have seen lately report oil Two meet.
ys OF cOnsu encies in the west VI EDgland-at Bilss
ol and Pymouthat which Liberal members represent
Ing popular constituencies. have been recommending
that iLc Government should enter into arrangements
with foreign country in Europe in order that they
may recognize the South in America and interfere 10
p pro- and No noI / observe Ss that Tic
idea which peryeded those members and their
constituents was this that this affair in America
b. settled in peculiar way according ~ the dictates
Of the those particular parties Hear. hearJ From
tie beginning Of this American war. this lamen,abe
CONFUSION. from which you have suffered 50 much one
great and fundamental in the conduct OF states.
men and Governments and in the conduct Of q large
portion of the influential classes Of this country has
BEEN that they have made up their minds that there
be but Issue to this civil war III America, and
that is separation between the North and South.
LCheersl told You when was here last, when that
low, that did not myself believe the would issue
in that way. have stated the same opinion since in
tie House Of Commons yet ! declare 70 You
that taxing what y Iasd BY e ,Sat p apass
ten thousand with which Members Of Par.
Lament liable to come into contact in the cllba
classes Of may the pnrase that you meet in those
purlieus London have been firmly convinced from thu
nrst that the civil would only end in separation.
[IIear, hear.) How far the wish father to that
thought viii not pretend to say. Cheers,l believe
the conviction has been sincere; believe 1t has been
founded the belief that looking at tue vast extent u
territory occupied by the insurgents in this war was
impossible that they could be su5ugaed by any force
that could be brought against them by the North Bue
there has been most lamentabe display Of ignorance
among those classes to which refer If We may judge
by til conduct II the organs Of the press which may Dc
considered the opponents Of their views There have
Sse e ,os IN E sssSp sau bear no eonpa
son. with hundreds Of miles OF steam naviga'
ton have been described in those leading orgsna
running into one river ana INTO anotnef N ut'er Us
regard OF the rules OF geography There are number
Of great cities in Americaces of 100 COZ and l0oO
inhabiianis-which are among the largest shipping
country tS raw IN ons ~ n them have seen mile Of
steamboats, moored side By SIDE aid yet If those greet
and that great commerce, forming part Vi We
strength and resources Of North America the ruling
classes IN this country know nothing. You DON'T nho
them in books at oxford and Cambridge where your
undergraduates are obliged to study before they can
pass their examinations II is N utter Ignorance OF
those the opinion Of the ruling classes IN
England has been come to- But i, whom accident:
perhaps more than anything else, has made as well
acquainted with the politics and geography OF mas
country as with my own. | have never eeNe'e S.1
ever live that any one here viii live, 10 see two
separate nations within the confines OF the present
United States Of America Cheers. will tell you
candidy that II il was not for one cause should con-
der as hopeless and useless the attempt 10 subjn-
gate the Southern States Of America as the parties 40
upou whose views have been commenting. ~ IL tno
object with which the separation las been made that
my opinion renders the success OF the Secessiohs'
absolutely impossible hear hearl; and II the moral
and nie gent population Of this country had not been
sytemrtically msied upon that question they would
have been unanimously Of that conviction Hear.
hear. Wewere told in the House OF Commons by one
from whom il Was almost incredible TINT II conld
have come-once the great champion OF democracy
ones the great advocate Of all the rights and prin-
cipes Of the unsophiscated milAons-that TINS
civil wer originated because the south wished 10
y would not allow IT, aHgEter Travelled in tho
United States In 1852 the year before that fatal shot
was fired NJ Fort Sumter which has had such terrible
royerberatons ever since visited Washington during
tie session OF Congress. Now carry nag wherever
ca Austria Russia. at once become the center OF
al those who have strong convictions and purposes
win reference to trade principles. Hear near, sni
inc there was so little interest felt on the reetrace
question. There no party formed, no pubhe asi'
tlton discussion whatever upon the sulle.,;;
hv one question. and that question was slavery:
liiear hear.l 1 Will mention an illustrative faes
which | have not referred TO- ana 10 my
mind !, is conclusive this subject. In December,
100 when Congress sitting. and when the country
was IN the agony Of suspense fearing thslinpehunS
rupture Congress appointed Committee, consisting VI
Al members being "A representative from every Si&e
then In the Union and that Committee sat from Deem
Der A. 1890. to January IA. lso IL was eaied inc .o
mife, OF Thirty three and instructed 10 Inquire
into the perous state Of the Union and to try and de-
vie some means by which the catastrophe OF secession
could be ayerted have report OF the On
that Committee. believe there Is not another report
In this country; have 10 know So There are 40
pages have read every line. The representatives OF
lie slave States were invited by the representatives OF
tbe krce states 70 state oandidy and frankly what were
he terms hic they required in order that they sht
continue pcaoeaby in tie Union, ana IN every Paso you
see their propositions brought forward IRON beginning
tosId of these 40 pages there is not one syllable sald
! about tariff or taxation. lChcers.l From oeglnmhs
On end there is not grievance alleged but that which
IL connected with tho maintenance OF Slavery. There
are propositions calling upon the North ogye increased
scourt, 10 the maintenance OF that institution. They
ore invited 10 extend the of Slavery, TO make laws
by which fugitive slaves shall be given up They are
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