Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1863-11-13
1.re,stAruRg OF VERMONT.
CONCLUSION OF THE DEBAnE VN
pnIfNrIES TO XOLUNIEbko,

NJ r,rrihue Of Wcsthlhs'ti ~.
So ,a ~ from gloo 500 lie believed towns mus, DC
Ienso misht see NJ 70 adopt In that way could
-, ,bs direct fruit Of the money they pas, AVID 1t won'
.,ete an inteieet and enthusiasm the community,
brs We should fan to do ~ paying our money through
a., stare treasury. Rvon II this BIN does not pass no
state in the union will exceed Vernon, in liberal pay
ncut n soldiers.
NJ Miller Of winistou opposed to the amend
ment. He was for paying troops literally, but not
enough 70 ruin the state OF 70 make wrong distinctions
between the troops He thought that Inducements
enough already offered This bill would make the
hountcs Of veterans $500, and frAw volunteers $500
1t none too much 10 pay them but 1t dispfo.
porouate, and he could not favor II matter Of pol
cy OF Justice Men now have chance 10 volunteer and
take large bountes wait for dfa without bounty
1t is matter Of choice for them TO do we'll not and
that Is Involvement enough M them TO go.
MI Comngs Of Greensboro thought the towns which
had already raised their quotas the poorer ones,
with people patriotic that they had paid out small
bounes In some Of the larger and more wealthy towns
large bountss had paid and yet they had filled
their quotas from their citizens HI could not favor
the system Of town bountes, and thought that the tar
towns 1s''' " '' ''' ''4'1 '' '''''' anu A'' ''''"
Mr. Dorr replied a seeming attack BY the gentleman
from Norhhed, closing with an eloquent euiogium on
Vermont which elected much applause. As we omit
ted the attack, also omit the reply
Mr. Ram Of Poultney said he opposed to the bill
II unjust to the state and to the troops in the field
II the bountes offered not large enough to in
duce CO. he hoped draft woull come, and that,
too shorn Of any clause Of Communication He bad been
in the service. and from all that he had seen he could
Mr. Bullard Of St Johnsbury was in favor Of the a.
mtndment He had get to make it his specia busn as
between and the 9th Of January raise troops and
he wanted all the aid possible why do not men go TO
the wari Because business Is good and they stay
athomc in and comfort and make money They
will endure the tolls and Trials Of the field for three
years unless they can be paid for Il Another reason
parts looking here TO what going to do
II do not pay extra state bouhtes' they will 20 4"
other and too. is certain that we do not ras
these bouuties draft come. There Ia inpre,
sion that " men go the they go to die now i
US cher them enough 50 that they can eel i9ai hg
ed the bill
Mr. Bowker Of Peru opposed both amendment an
bill II men will not go with present Inducements l.
them be drafted lie had had go under less IL
ducements and he was killed before Por, Hudson
When those who live TO come home shall b'met, he
want 20 be rebuked by them with record that he ha
favored this bill which gives to sordd sneaks more tbs
Mr. Houston dcbaed the question further. and when
@!dosn he was greeted with applause
Mr. Parker Of Elmore moved to dismiss the bill.
Mr. Rounds said he believed there were merits in u
bill. We should do something to avoid draft
have poured themselves oopousy in speeches to a
the soldiers, but have really done little. He was nov
for doing H. But be was opposed to the amendment 70
1t would tax the state heavily Like the in III
fable who had goose that laid golden egg had bct
,eI not Ill the goose she must live N order to lay
hereafter and must live IN order TO do H. Tie was
willing to pay the old soldiers bounues though ~hen
they went out the price Of labor les than and
they had for expecting pay them boun4
ties But wehaye present work At hand and must do IT,
Many Of the old troops have died some have been
KILLED. and others come home die. The men homa
see this and II an inducement for them 10 volunteer
They shrink back with horror, aud say they have M
choice to 60. Still there some who will be very pat
rote and will 60 II they can leave competence by wa
Of pay and bountes for their families II is an induce
mint feel that his family is provided for
is great thing for men to go and leave them. Me
have been asked to CO. and we're promised that their fam
lilies should be supported Bot how have they been sup
ported They complain that II has been very grudngb
With regard to the oommu' alton bill introduced thi
morning. he wouli say tits a dodge II really is b
to make hundred aud twenty five dollars ready
equal to two hundred and hytwo Of monthly install
nents for three years.
He responded to the argument that this proposes
bibe men to go into the SERVICE and denied the sta
ment that the new volunteers would not be well receive
In TIE army.
lie said II the bill should not be dismissed he had
amendment which he should like to introduce that wou
remove all objections that had been raised. He though
this system Of State b0unties would
jealousy between towns lie said that much coul
not be paid TO the soldiers He would not bribe then
but he would induce them and help them. He woul
ask them to 20. would bless them, and would put int
their hands the slender staff this bounty to help SUI
port them in the toisome service.
SATURDAY, Now.
SENATE.
Reports-By Mr. Peck, for com on military affairs
Senate bill p, providing for the payment of dranc.
troops ordered TO 81 reading
By Mr. Clark Of Bennington, for com on finance |
against House bill 81 relating TO the salaries Of Probai
Judges motion u Mr. Peck ordered to lie.
By Mr. Bean, for general com, with amendment, Ser
ate all 49, TO incorporate hc Springfield Hotel compan
amendment. agreed 10 aud bill ordered "a third rcadnl
Mr. CLARK NJ Bcnninvfon Jailed up iluuse bin 81, r.
atng tho sAlstrs Of Probate Judges the queslir
being upon its third reading
Mr. Child stated that the population of Lamoic count
is 1880. and the salary Of the probate judge is onl
$3.50. while the SALARY according 20 the average Of 9TH
counties should be $3.50 When the salary was fixed Il
census bad not been taken, and Lamoille
only asks to have the salary raised TO the average
other counties Lamoie county had furnished MOI
troops than any other county in the State in proporuo
TO its population and he why the count
should not be treated as fairly in this respect as oh'
counties.
Mr. williams opposed the bill. The continued cry IL
"gye." "gve!"
Mr. Nichols said that in the last decade matters ho
greatly changed in regard TO these duties In the 9TH
branch Of the legislature those who the tow
in the state have passed this BILL and why should
fuse to pass lie only asked that justice should
done to the people Of his district. The population
Rutland district is ~ 22 and the fees received durin
the year amount to s202 so, while the salary Of ID
judge is only 500 The salary, according the aver
Of other salaries, would be about $780, which is tn
the provided by the bill He stated that the
fee is Of the most laborious in the state N
judge being compelled to devote the whole Of his ow
time and that Of his register TO the duties OF the office
Mr. Clark Of Bennington opposed the bill, He said Il
committee did not know that population afforded
criterion for the salaries. He thought that the aggr
Of the salaries the State is sufficient and the sal
aries OF the different districts very unequal IL
not yet time to raise the salaries Of the different Officer
throughout the state Once in years often enough
Mr. Child said that the senator from Windsor Is great
" troubled about that door" He didn't wonder tbs
he wished to keep the door between Windsor and La
noble counties shut. The people OF Windsor have
o. The money that belongs to Lamole The population
OF Nldsor dttric ~ 10 biB and the salary OF the
bate Judge S1OO while the salary according the
erage would be only S603.
Mr. Richardson acknowledged that the county OF La
noble 10 very patriotic. 1t has always been called
"spunky Lamolle," and the senAt who represents il
FULLY lusiihes the compliment He had taken pains
TO hnd upon what basis the salaries we're fixed and he
found that they not based upon population. II we
take population basis the salary Of the Judge Of La
noble is not sufficient but II regard the amount o.
fees which TO the state the judge Of Lamoe
eeiVes his full share While the county Of Washington
has paid into the treasury fortynine dollars above the
salary Of the Judge of probate the county OF LAmoe has
received hundred dollars for salary than IL has
paid into the treasury in fees He thought this
should be deferred until examine the salaries of
all the probate judges
On motion Of Mr. Clark Of Rutland the bill
mitted TO the committee finance.
Jo'a res0lEttOn by Mr. Stevens. granting the use
Of the Representative Hall Monday evening next TO
Chaon Davey for the purpose Of delivering address
TO the LEGISLATURE upon the adopted the part oi
the Senate.
Third readingo Of bill Senate bill 10, to pay VIM IA
Bskeri passed.
Senate bill a. TO increase the salaries Of the judges OF
the supreme court passed IS to H. as follows
feas-MesaTs bradford Clark Of Rutland Child Cleve-
dCTee, kngesby, Fish Keith Kellhm, Lyman, Mich
OILS. Pollard, SahoTd Stevens, stoughton-l5.
Ndys-Messrs Bass Bean. Beatiie, Bottnnl, Clark OF
bennington, Cuahman, Holcomb, Peek, Richardson.