Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1863-11-17
HOUSE,
rS1oS or THE COLLEGES.

The bill providing for incorporating State
University and Associate Colleges, came upas IN
finished business, and the pending question was
upon dismissng the bill.
Mr. Reed OF Montpelier, hoped the bill would
be dismissed. The bill WAS unjust TO Midd.ebury
The college there could not be removed in ac-
cordancr With the terms Of the grant by which
It hed i,. landed property and funds. Middle
bury would be lett out in the cold If the till
should pass The result Of the bill would be not
to consolidate the colleges Burlington would
undoubtedly win the Agricultural College by the
terms Of this aet She would in fact have NJ
competition. The less would, as matter Of
course, be transferred to the greater, if the mat
ter was LEFT as proposed to commission to De.
eide.
Mr. Pennock Of Morrsiown thought this bill
could accomplish the object in yew,-that Of es-
tabIshing o school where a practical education
could be required at moderate expense ,--if any
bill could. The bill was well framed to accom-.
p..sn It's object. lie hoped the House would
pass II.
Mr. Fisher VI Vergennes, hoped the bill would
be dismissed He had doubts about the value
Of the scrip. lie believed also that while ths
people were interested 10 the matter, very few
we're yet informed upon the subject as they should
be before the Legs a;ure acted upon it.
Mr. Dorr observed that il was assumed that
the colleges would not unite unless this Dill
was passed. lie denied that there was reason to
suppose that such would be the case. lie had
received letters from the men most interested in
such matters, to the effect that union might be
effected upon plan quite different from that
proposed in the bill and which would meet the
appreciation Of the colleges. 1t was proposed TO
unite the colleges under one corporation, while
each remained IN its own locality.
Mr. Demng Of Arlington as humble member
OF the committee did not propose TO he It's cham
pon. lie would say howe5eI that a, least twelve
members Of the committee supposed that they
we're acting as representatives OF the people. The
arguments that had been brought against the bill
would apply equally to every important measure
OF the Session. The people did know something
of the question and they had their representatives
in the Legislature Members were proposing in
deed a new way Of doing business and legIslatng,
namely, that every man should be instructed per
Sc n relation to all the business transacted, and
not trust to the representatives, OF the people sent
to the Legislature for the very purpose OF repre-
senting them, aud doing their business here Tor
them. lie hoped bill drawn with such skill,
and so we'll calculated 10 accomplish It's object as
this was, woud not be dismissed. He hoped
members would not be afraid to think for them
selves, and vote as they saw tit, because OF the fear
of the sovereign people that had been brought up
to influence thems
Mr.. McAlister of Middlesex hoped the bill
would not be dismissed but that the motion to
dismiss would be withdrawn, and the amendment
extending the tine tor union would be adopted.
lie believed the best interests OF the State de-
mauded the passage Of the act.
Mr.. Fisk of North6ed was in fayer Of an ag-
ricultura college and of all the benefits II could
confer, but he was opposed to some OF the pro-
visions OF the bill, 1t provided to give the entire
donation to one locality, and to place It's control
beyond any legislature. lie thought this was un-
lust to the State at large. There should be some
way for towns that desired to put in bids for the
benefits to be derived from the fund in question
The fund should be kept in some way sacred, for
the State, and not given as endowment to any n-
sttutlon.
Mr.. Chandler of Woodstock, stated that the
bill had been drawn with care, andooples present
ed to the presidents OF the several colleges and
to members of Congress from Vermont. They
had approved the general features OF the bill, as
well calculated to accomplish It's object, with the
exception Of the President OF Mddebury, who
gave no answer, but when inquired of personally,
expressed the opinion that the bill was drawn to
favor another institution. lie expressed the
opinion that if the bill passed, military, scientific,
and agricultural school would he established at
Norwich, and Mddebury would continue to exist
as separate classical college.
On motion Of Mr.. Comings OF Greensboro, the
previous question was ordered, and on demand oil
MIR. Chandler the yeas and nays were taken on
the question OF dsmissing the bill yes 20, nays
ll3, and the House refused to dismiss the bill.
The question then come upon ordering to third
reading.
Mr.. Hnckley renewed his motion to amend
the bill SO as to extend the time for the union oi
the colleges, il they see iii to unite, from Aug
18th to Now lst.
Mr.. Parker OF Middebury, moved TO amend
the amendment SO as to make the latter date
jan, lst 1865 lost
Mr. Miller OF WilIiston, favored the amend
meni proposed by the gentleman from Chelsea
(Hiuckey).
The amendment was adopted.
MIR. Fisk of Mortified moved to strike out
section IA, and insert q section providing that
THE act sh, be under the control Of all future
legislatures T" agreed to.
Tne House then ordered the bill to third read.
ing this afternoon at 4 o'clock.