Holmes County farmer. [volume] (Millersburg, Ohio) 1857-1926, 1863-05-28

ham n .ed the words: "Ihe President and
his minions;" but did not think he used
|, in any other than the General accepta
tim Of that term. He did not use 1t IN
connection with the army.
NJ. vailandgham. | did not use it !
in connection with the officers of the
aimv.
Mr. Cox. 1t was in connection with
arbitrary arrests perhaps, that he used 1t
O. Was sit not in connection with army
contractors and speculatorsY
The Judge Advocate objected to the
question. aud said the witness had dis.
tinc,ly stated that he did not think Mr.
V. had applied it to ;hc officers of the
army.
O. Do und, rstand you to say that
the denuuciations to which you refer
were chiefly in reference to arbitrary ar
res,s9
A. Nv recollection Of tha, was the
connection in which it was used. He used
strong epithets toward spies and inform
ers, and did not seem to like them very
much.
Mr.. Vallandigham. AS the Court has
admitted that | did make distinc tion .
between the Butler county case and the /
Kentucky spy. Twill not refer TO it now.
@. Do you remember the connection
in which words to this effect were used al
the close Of the speech. 'In regard to
the possibility Of Il dissolution of the Un-
ion' and OF his own determination in re.
gard to such contingency, "and bis de.
clining to act as priest?'
A. ! cannot give the exact words, but
remember tho metaphor. "Ihat hc
would not be priest to minister at the
altar OF disuuon." 1t was as he wound
M his speech. lie was speaking about
disunon anil his attachment to the I'm.
ion.
Q. What counsel dl give the people
on the subject Of the Union at the close
OF my speech?
a. lie invoked them under no crcum.
stances to surrender the Union. think he
said something about leaving it to our
posterity.
Q. Do You remember my rebuke Of ar
bilrary court mnrtials, and WAS it in con
nection with the Butler County case ?
A Yes, so understood it
Q. What was the general chara cter OF
my remarks on the subject?
a. lie denounced the applause Of JaE.
Davis by that party, and said there was
mode by which this man could be tried.
Mr.. VallanAigham asked whether the
rebuke had not reference TO, and was spo-
ken in connection with. the Butler county
case. He desired distinct answer to
this.
Mr.. Cox-He was speaking Of the But.
lercounty case, and he pointed ont mode
by which sucE a man could be tried.
q. Was anything said in my speech
in reference to the war, except IN cnndcm-
nation Of what | claimed to be the pol.
icy upon which it wa, now being wagea,
and ns a policy which insisted could not
restore the Union, but must enl finally
in disuuion?
a. can only give my understanding
| do not know what inference other peo
pie might draw from it. understood
his condemnation of the war to be launch
cd at the perversion of its original pur
pose.
Mr.. Valan,igham. do not rcmcmbc
anything further just now. | have som'
O tier witnesses. whom desire to exam
inc on this samo point, who are not yo
here.
Judge Advocate have no question
to put to the witness.
10 Mr. VallaudghOm. Has not th
witness sufficiently developed the purpos
and spirit Of your speech.
Mr, Vallandigham have called bu
one witness, and understood the Cour
has several more to corr'horate what thcl
first witness has testified.
Judge Advocate. The Court viii no
be Influenced by the number of witnesses
The number had nothing to do with tht
case.
Mr. Tallauiigham. did hot counsc
any resistance in my speech and ther,
were th,oo witnesses on the stand, on,
Of whom was prc,liug officer and on,
reporter, who is accustomed to report
ing speeches, though he did not repor
on that occasion, whom have Telegraph
al for and expect here at four p. M.
ThcJulgc Advocate suggested that Mr.
Poudlc,on, who was now present, was n
the meeting at Mt, Vernon. nnd that h
might 5c called to stand.
Mr. NallaudighOm, Mr. pendlcton ha
been engaged in this case. and woul
prefer not to call him, as havo 9th,
WliN'NntS. tlNb NtNlit W NIlpN lilNl li
criticism in my speech were not in refer
once to General Order No. 3S.
Judge Advocate The witness has iu
said so.
Mr. Vallandi8ham, If the Court vi
admit that. then will not call other wi
nesscs
Judge Advocate, | viii admit that ii
language might not have been used, esp
cially toward Gcneral Order No. 3S; hl
it had been proved that such langua,
was used in the Mt. Vernon speeches
reference 10 military orders.
Mr.. Vallaniigham. | want to prov
that il was not used in relation to Gone,
al Order No 3d.
Judge Advocate. l will admit that ii,
language was not used in regard TO Gee
eral Order No. 3S, but generally to mil
tary orders,
Mr.. Vailandigham said he desired tit
to prepare defense covering this tes
mony and would. according TO the rnI
governing court marshals, submit it