Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1862-11-13
FHR PREsIDENT AND TETR ReRD
EE STATES.

o dent LiHc0lH ard seUcrqi Representatives, fro
tie Brrder Suites Oa tie Emancipation Mesa
i ef the 6h Of Harch, I562
From the Washington National Intelligencer O.t 20
We pdbish this morning report o. tk e eonversat
between some represent iatyes Of the border
-, the President Of the United States We have had
Ianuscfipf copy Of 1t a disposal for sometime,
Nefe not eefain MS publication was called for BY 2
progress Of events It g. however part Of the hisof
Of the tlnel. IL relates 70 suB-ct upon which Il
parties Conversation have no claim 10 secrets b
sd.s the sHbisc s disposed or The reply Of ths bor
States % ths proposition Of the President the subis
or emancipation has beeu accepted By the States the
represented as cOnclusive, far as can Judge b
their acts and The President appears to havs chansd h
opinion aud yielded 20 the radicals Of his party. II
conversation does not show his position present bu
what it was at tAe time
MzMOEAEpuM OF c0NvsRsArTov.
Dear Sir I called sc the request Of the Presiden
% ask you TO % the White House tomorrow MON
as are in town
wAsHrSGroz, March 10. 1862
yesterday, on my return from church, I found hr
POST htaste General Blair In ny room writing the sbov
note, which he Immediately susDended and verbal,
communicated the Presidents invitation and stated IN
the Prssdents purpose was TO have some conversation
Virginia snd Delaware, In explanation Of his message
rhis morning these delegations. or souf Of them 20
were in town, assembled SO the White House aB
pointed time and aer little delay were admitted
% an audience. Mr.. Leary and myself the only
nSDera rom Maryland present and thinS, were the
I only members of tie delegation that sine in the ev
l know that Mr.. Psafes. of the Senate and Aessrz
/ Webster and Calvert o. the Mouse, were absent
After the usual salutatons and We v-rs srates the
President said n subs that be had invited US lr
explanation ~ his message 81 The G h. MAJ sra he
had sent IL in several Of the gentlemen then present
hat visited hilR bI had svoidei any alIusion 70 the
message, a1d b the efore Inferred that the import Of
me message had been n'under''ood and was regards I
~ lIcaI 10 the iHterests We repre'euted and be had
resolv-d he would talk with and dsabuse our minds
/ cf 'hat erroneous opinion
The President then dselanad any intent 20 iujure
the interests wound be disabilities Of the slave
States. On the contrary. his purpose 20 protect
hs one aodrespect fhs ofh. that W were srra-i fin
terrbiewas IN ana tedious war immense armies were
IN the held aud cnn'inue n the Held as long a, the
war asis; tha these s-r1ier must - neressitv BE-
broHght into c0ntacr with slaves in the taes we repre-
sHnted and In 0 her sac, a. hey advance thai
/ he slaves w0ald -corne 70 the camps. AMI that
continual irri a'lon wa Kept up that he was
Onsantly snnoyed bV conflicting ard antasunlstic
plants the side certain class complained iF
the slave protected By the army persons were
frequently found who, participating in these views
acted in way unf-endly TO the STAKEHOLDER; on sks
other hand slavsholders complained that their rights
were nererred WITH their slaves induced 10 Abscond
ana protected within the lines; these complaints
numerous, loud and desp were a serious annoyance
70 him and embarrassing 70 the progress Of the
thAt h kept alive spirit hostile TO the government in
the States We fepreEeuted nEthensd tbs hopes 0f
the Ccnfederatss that Gt day the border States
would unite with them, and thus tend 90 prOlong the
war and be Of opinion II this resolution should
ba adopted by Congress aud accepted by our States
these causes ot irritation these hopes would be
moved, aud more would Be aoc0mp pished toward short
I
victory achieved by Union srm.esi that re made
his proposition II good faith and desired it b be az
cspted, II ~ at, voluntarily and IN the sans patriotic
I sprit IN which u was mads, and that smanoipa-
tioa was subject sIeuIvs,y under the con
troll Of ths States and b adopted rejected by
each for itself that he did not claim nor had this govern
mont any right to them FOR that purpose that
such part Of biz purpose in making this pr0po-
sou, and be wished It 10 be clearly undersood that
he did not expect there 90 be prepared TO give him
answer but be hoped would the subsG into
rous consideration; confer with another. and then
take such course fit duy and the interests Of
our constituent ts required Of us.
Mr.. NoeT Of Missouri said that in bis state slavery
not considered permanent institution that
raj causes were thsrs IN operation which would at no
distant day eEtncush it and he did think that th
proposition necessary for that and besides that
he aud his friends felt solictous the message
count OF thr d-reut constructions which the resolution
and message bad received The New NOrS 1TiJaas
for f. and understood mean that we must accept
gradual emancipation according to tbs plan suggested
The President replied he must rot be expected TO
quarrel with the York Trbass before the right
time be hoped never TO have to do be would not an
tJcpae events In respect TO emancipation In Missouri
he said that what hai been observed by Mr. Noel was
probably true but the operation Of bese natural
had not prevented the irritating conduc 20 which he hsd
referred or destroyed the hopes Of the 'outederates
that Missouri would Tins range herself along
sds Of thsm which, in his judgment the passage Of this
would accomplish.
Mr. ChrIsfeld Of Maryland asked Whist would be the
effect Of the refusal cf the States to sec this PROPOSE
and desired to know the President looked any pol
icy beyond the acceptance rejection of bis scheme
The President replied that be had designs beyond
the action of the States on this particular subject He
should lament their refusal 90 accept IT, but be had 10
designs beyond their refusal or &.
Mr. Nsuzss, Of Kentucky, isqlired the President
thought there was any power eXcrpt u tbs states them
selves % carry out Ibis Sc gAsne of emancipation
The President rspisd hs taought there could aot be-
Hs then went of into Of remark NOT qualifying
tss foregoing declaration material % be repeated TO
ius undsratauiiag Of his meaning
mr crsisld said be did not thiaE the people Of Mary
lasd looked up0u slavery permanent institution
and be dd not knew that hsy would be very ralustau
give it II provision uzds the loss and
they oou be rid of tAe but sy did net like 70 be
eoeEe into either bV tas direct action Of
the government by ndirscri0n through the sman-
cPaOn o. slaves in tAIS District the S0nftcaOa Of
S6uth-rz property as now threatened and he thought
before theV would consent 20 cOnsdsr this proposition
they would require 20 Be Informed these points
The President replied mat "unsss he was expelled By
the Of od the Confedsrats armies he should
eupy On 81 house Tor hree years and A. OuB as be re-
msined there Maryland had nothing fear either for
her rin'tuOns her interests ~ the points referred to-
Mr. Crisheld immeiia ely added: Er Presideat II
what you now say co1ld be heard bv the people Of
Maryland they would consider your proposition with
much batter feeling than fear wishoutit they VIII b
The PrssiI.nt rhst ueaninz publication of what
be sid will d0 it would force into quarrel b.
fore the proper time and again intimatiug he had
before done that quarrel with tho Greeley faction
wss mnendng. he said he did not wish to encounter
baf1rs the proper time nor At all if ii could be avoid
Governor WieEife Of Kentucky. then asked him
respecting the cOnsi utiOnality OF the scheme. The
President replied A. you may suppOss, have
sdered that; aud the proposition submitted does
not encounter any CONSTITUTIONAL difficulty 70 proposes
simply 20 operate with any State by giving such State
pecunary aid and be thought that the resolution.
proposed by him. would be considered rather as the
preston Of sentiment thsn involving any eOnstitu
tonal question"
Hr Hal Of Missouri thought that II this prouostion
adopted a. all should be by The votes nf the free
States and proposition from them 70 the slave
States afordng them an inducsmsnt to put an end to
nf At to
that members representing slsvshoing constituencies
should declare n once aud in advance Of any propo
siton 20 them for The emancipation Of slavery.
The President SAID he and felt the force Of The OBJ
lection fearful responsibility. and every gen
ten'n must do az he thought best that he did not
know how this scheme was received BY the msnbers
from the free Sstes; Of them hsd spoken 20 him
and received 90 kindly; bnt for the most part they
as reserved snd ch1rry we had been, and he could
not tell how they would vote And in reply to some
preston of Mr Hal a. n his ewn opinion regarding
slavery, ne raid be did not pretend 20 dsguiEs bis anti
slavery feeling; tbs he thought it was wrong and
should continue 70 thiak bat that not The ques
tioa we had deal with row. Slavery existed and
that 100, we'll by the set Of the North as Of the
South and 10 any scheme to get rid OF IT, the North a.
wen As the South morally bound 70 do its full and
equal share. He thought the institution wrong, and
ought TO have existed but yet he recognized the
ghts OF urnperty which bad grown Of it. and would
respect those rights fully similar rights in any other
property that property esa exist and does legally e1
lat lie thought such law wrong but the rights OF
prapartv resulting must be respected lie would get
rid Of the odous aw not by violating the right nut by
encouraging the proposition and offering Inducements to
give It up
Here The in iervcw % far hs suhiact concerned
mated by srCrttendeu saSsu ing the Presideni
that ybse4er uizhi bA Our fnal sciion, ali thought
him moved bv h Eh patriotism snd sincere devouon
TO he happness and Eo-y Of his eotntry and Win ma
rJ,to1 va sbo ii consider respectfully the impOT
tant suggestisus he he'd 'nsde
AZ or some conversaon the csrrsnt war news, W
retired aad mmedis ely proceeded to my room and
wrote cut this paper.
We were prssent at the interview described in the
f-egoinr paper of Alr Crsh- snd certify that tho
subEtance Of Whist pss the oScasiOn Is in he paper
faithfully aud fully g.Fsu.
T. W. AgENzIFs
J. j. CRTTTEEDEN
MAR. x 10 1852 r. HALLORF.
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