The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1862-06-20

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Spain was differently situated /; her inter-
est was that North America should be posi-
sessed by two great Powers, who would
balance each other her counseIs were not
tainted with Puritan fanaticism, and surely
she had no interest that the. monopoly Of
the cotton supply should pass from us to
England. Spain was our natural ally and
friend, and her paramount interest was that
we should become an independent power.
Whep we were recognized, similarity OF
institutions, ideas and social habits
would form between US more corr
dial friendship and alliance than had
ever existed between two people. He said
he hoped it might be so, but he would not
conceal the fact that MIR. Seward was
taking great pains to convince him that the
North had always been friendly, while the
South was ever hostile to Spain that
while the North was the best customer for
the sugar of their colonies, and supplied
them with all they wanted in exchange, no
private expeditions had ever sailed from
their ports for the invasion of Cuba, but in.
variably from those of the South, and that
if the Confederate States Became hereafter
strong government their first attempt at
conquest would be upon that Island. an
swered that the representations OF Mr.. Sew
ard were disingenuous and untrue, Forms
erly the North as well as the South wanted
Cuba. The North wanted it, and will ever
want it, for the profits of its commerce !;
the South wanted it to make three new
States of it and thus obtain in the Fed
eral Senate six more members, which would
for time, at least have equaliezd the
power of the free and slaveholding states in
that body. With the reconstruction OF the
Union the motive of the South would nee ..
essarily revive, but it does not now and
never will again exist provided that the ins
recognized and securely established. The
South would then deem it its interest that a
great country like Spain should continue a
slave power. The two, together with
Brazil, would have the monopoly of
the system of labor which alone can
make intertropical America and the
regions adjoining available to the uses Of
man, and to great extent of the rich pro-
ducts OF that labor. Nothing in the past
could give an idea of the career of prosperi.
ty and power which would thus be opened
to US. The time at which our recognition
should take place was, of course, exclusively
within the discretion of her Msjesty's gov.
ernment, but could be assured that, when
that time arrived, our recognition would not
be made dependent upon the action of other
powers? At the time of the instruction of
the Spanish colonies the United States had
recognised their independence long before
any other power, and there is no doubt that
the moral and material influence derived
from that recognition greatly aided them in
achieving their independence. Gould as.
sure my government that her Majesty's gov.
eminent would follow this example in their
own good time, without regard TO the course
of other nations? 10 this question be would
not make positive answer, but simply
said: Spain, as you are aware, is slow
slower, perhaps, han other nations, in CON-
ing to decision in matters of Importance !;
but, after she does, she carries that decision
through without regard to consequences"
He LETT me under the impression that this
government would not be the first to recog.
Mise US.
l then observed that the threat of Mr..
Seward that our recognition by foreign
Powers would be considered a casus 5ela,
had been falsiied by subsequent declara>
ton of Mr.. Lincoln that be could not carry
on two wars st time, and that if her Ma
jesty's government had been accessible to
such fears it would not have re-annexed St.
Domingo to the crown, and taken lead in
the Mexican expedition; that those measures
had created in the North deep feeling of
hostility against Spain, and that while the
recognition of our government would not
involve this county in war, no delay would
diminish the intensity of that feeling. He
said they bad no fear from that quarter,
and were fully prepared for any emergency,
as they had done no act which was not in
strict conformity with the law of nations.
After be had explained to me the circum-
stances which led to the annexation of St.
Domingo and the object of the Mexican ex.
petition, handed him printed list, sent
to me by Mr.. Helm, of the vessels which
had entered the ports of Cuba after break
ing the blockade, and of those which left
Cuba and entered southern ports, and stated
~ AihA eHV oioSAoNO Woo cuAViy AuCuCStlVC,
both froEa the number of vessels which had
violated it and from the fact that it was a
blockade maintained by cruisers, and not by
ships of war permanently stationed at the
mouth of southern rivers and harbors. He
said differences of opinion might be enter
tanned as to its effectiveness; but this was
one of those questions in which one. nation
could not act alone; and as England and
France agreed in opinion that the blockade
could not be considered Ineffective, Spain
would not differ from them.
Before taking leave I banded to Mr..
Collantes copy of the communication Of
Earl Russell and his answer, which had
been published in the Parliamentary papers,
and also copy of my Instructions, for
which he was thankful. He expressed the
hope that We might have frequent CONVEX
sation together, and appeared anxious to
obtain correct information through south
ern sources He was astonished that our
government had not provided means for
transmitting that information, and request.
ed ne, when l received any that was inn
portant, to impart it to him. This is the
substance Of what may be considered Of