Cleveland morning leader. [volume] (Cleveland [Ohio]) 1854-1865, 1862-05-09
Nosshsra Ohia Grape GFowsr., Ausssia.

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Eesalus9, That the editors OF the daily
Cleveland papers b dnd ase hereby elected
Pe,ois,i. Thsi hereafter tie Secretary be
enpogered b pay for al local noticss Of The
msasinFa af he sccisty.
ResoiUei, That j. Stewart b q committee
Of one 70 procure tabls and Boats for the use
Of tho AssooiaHen.
Subject for discussion-" Planting and
Preparat0Fy Pruning Tor Training"
Capt. D. Stewart being called upon, said
that d planting viaes he considered It essen
tial 70 9 perfect and pornaneut vineyard
that Ell the upper roOta should be pruned
sWHy, leaving only the foot roots that By
this oouFBe the foot roots got ths starti and
ever aftorWard kept it, thus giving health and
longevity 70 the vina, Hoahould cut All the
wood back 70 one tud. II any dorment buds
shoald force out, he would rub them on, ex-
copt two strong Ones on opposite sides, which
be Eould rstain ss thighs. II, 81 pruning
the lower bads were apparently imperfect
he would prune, leaving tWo buds but after
the growth bad made four inches be would
rub Od the most weakly ones, leaving only
one good, strong hhoot, 70 grow as q leader,
with two alternate iateFAls as thighs This
course Of pruning Of upper roots, and aevore
cutting back. would place the lower or foot
roots some eighteen or twenty inches deep.
when Il is not done, he thought vines did
not do "a we'll, even the first year, and be
felt sure they would not prove as successful
afterwards. The second season he would cut
ali back sgain 70 one bud, and would clear
away the ground, and would cut on neatly
and smoothly Ell snail surface roots would
pursue the same course the third year, and
then be would run out the thighs 20 about
eiFhtsen inches, iaterally, and leave . good
strong leader. In answer to questions, Capt
Stewart said these remarks we're made in
reference 70 the soils Of and around CleVe-
land. Ia stronger soils, and in warmer eli
mates, earlier fruiting would be admissible,
but lie thought not for this latitude; here,
thg third yeSr was soon enough.
Mr.. Elliott here brought in some grape
vines, and the method Of pruning was illue
trhted in g manner not easily reported, bat
very plain and satisfactory 70 the meeting.
Capt. stsWnrt said, that after the fret
pruning ct the time Of setting, hs should
prune any time from the Goth Of November
20 the Ist Of fMarch-preferrcd February.
Mr.. Elliott REGARDED the best time 70 prune
the grape immsdiately after the foliage had
dropped, in the Fall.
Capt. Stewart said, that he had preferred
February, bat that he thought, perhaps, his
practise and his statement were not consist
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never pruned lEttr than the 5th Of Deem
bar, and he nsVer had finer grapes or more
healthy vines.
Mr.. Elliott said, we had too long followed
the practice Of pruning grapes, as well as
trees, from early teachings, without much
careful thought and examination Of the sub
ject. He had found the vine 10 endure the
rigOrs Of Winter better when pruned in the
Pail, and the cuttings made ct that time
were 70 him Of nearly double the value Of
those made late in February or March.
Capt. Stewart said he had found cuttings
made in the fall more desirable than those
in spring. II planting cuttings, he would
have them not go long, and instead Of plant
ing them at an angle Of IS deg, Es the old
practice, he preferred setting them nearly
upright.
Nj. Elliott made his cuttings short, set
them nearly upright, and covered in, leaV-
ing the upper bud just level with the
ground.
Illustrations in forming difsrentc cuttings,
and the manner Of planting, were made be-
fore the meeting. Capt. Stewart also ezhib
tied his manner Of cutting back the vine the
hrst ana second year, TO form head, which
We cannot report. Several members stated
that cuttings Of our 0ataWbs, Isabella, and
like class Of grapes, were better with piece
Of two year-oid club e the base.
Mr.. Porter said l1is practice agreed with
Capt. Stewards except that after the hrst
year he left two buds, and formed his
thighs.
Capt. Stewart asked, Why not select the
bOds for the thighs the first yesr-thinks it
bettsr than later.
Mr.. Porter did not feel sure that the best
buds always exhibited themselves the frat
year, he preferred leaving two buds the Sc
II ~ a -.
about One-half Of the previous years
growth.
Mr. stoddard said, in the matter Of SET
ting cuttings, he found those set in an up
right manner had grown 90 freely that he
had only loss Of about i've 10 eight per
cent.
Mr.. Elliott said, that upon our sandy soil,
the pruning back 70 one eye, yearly, for three
years, might be admissible and profitable
but. in stronger soils, he thought il would bo
injurious. In good strong soils, canes Of size
sufficient 10 produce fruit, were often found
the hrst year, and q moderate crop
Of fruit was obtained the second year
Very much, undoubtedly, depends upon
correct pruning at frst, and upon the
soil. In plenting, he would pFune aEay
/ any and all email f5FoHS roots, whether at
/ the top or bottom, but all roots Of the
size Of g large goo8e-quill be would leave.
He did not think roOa struck as streng, or
| Is readily, down sixteen or more inches, as
those ct four 70 six inches. He knew il was
the practice Of many 10 take of all upper
rOOts; many Vignerons do it in q rough man
neF FROM year 10 year, with q coarse hoe,
| with 9 view 10 make the lower roots take
stronger hold. II the ground is well trench
/ Sd and drained, there are seasons Of year,
ss 81 midsummer, that the roots seek more
or less food low down; but he thought more
healthy wood was formed when the msjOri-
ty Of the roots are near the surface he AGO
thought these surface roots, from four 70 Pi1
inches deep, were essential to aid 10 dsYel-
oping the fruit in the fall. Some are under
the impression that vineyards formed from
cuttings planted where the vine 10 70 re-
main, are much the beat. These cuttings, If
pls nted in the old way, would bo found 70
make the most Of their strong roots, st four
70 six inches depth. BE thought plants as
good as cuttings, and one year nearly saved
In pruning, no distinct, certsin rule can be
laid down, as the examples Of vines here %
day, show; some requiring 10 be cut 70 one
, bud, close 10 the head, OtherB, perhaps
7 even st the first setting, admit Of two buds
remaining. Those who desire 10 learn
QFape culture, should become members, and
here see practically worked out Information
that no reading can give.
> Mr.. 6tsWart said, II he was planting cut
| tiues, he should prefer the fall, sa more GER
: tain Of success, one year with another.
The subject for the next meeting viii b
the Hsummer Cultivation Of the Vine
Q Adjourned 20 the 10Th day Of Nay, at hal
I past O'Clock P. M. +. R. ELLIOTT,
! Secretary.