New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1862-10-06
CONVENTION OF TIIE
PROTESTANT Il. CHURCH
Tho Church and tho Rebellion.
FOURTH DAY.

s;dsut. assisted by Bishop Talbot and the Rev. DIR.
Burr Al The appointed TINE the President TOOK me
chair. The calling OF tie roll was aispehsea "l'n,
aud the Secretary read the minutes Of the sst meet
ling. which were approved. Reports OF Committees
were then called "a. All order from Judge Cham
bers called for the publication Of Bishop Viii e's
letter ia the appendix OF the journal oil the Cenven'
ton. Tie Rev. Mr.. BUEL of Vermont opposed the
motion. The Rev Mr.. WALSH Of Pa. hoped the
mover of the resolution wcnld recall it; If he old
not. he should feel compelled 10 offer an amend
ment. Judge CHAEBLRs defended his motion, ana
refused TO recall it. Dr. EasoS, Of Mars, and DR..
Neville of n. j., opposed the resolution. LIE ioi
lowing is the resolution III question:
Be,Or,d That the letter Of Bishop White to Bishop
the subject Of The be s in .e s.,iss no.
Of .eeo r,ig uniformity in the seryce'
The letter in question was written to Bishop
Brownel, at the time the latter WIS engaged III pre-
pairing Il Conn entary on tue Book oil Common
prsyer and gives the sentiment Of the foremost man
and father Of our early American church, with REFER
cace to q much disputed l'urgic;l question.
| Tie Hon. MURRAY HoTFnas, OF N. y, tho Kew.
Mr. DoASE (son OF the poet preacher Of New-JerseyJ
aud Mr.. REDTIELD, Of Mass, opposed IRE resoa' OH
| TIE Rev. Dr.. GoODwiS, OF Pa; the Rev. Nj sJour,
OF Iowa. also objected to Ms passage. The latter
& id thai Bishop Croes, who took orders as early as
1880 wrote formal essay 10 prove that The ocsa.
slonal PRAYERS should lie used before the General
Thnnksgvlng. II was written In 1873 for sword
Christian Journal. DIR. HOWE, OF Pa, urged the
|
IsGToY of Conn moved the previous question.
| The Hon. VI AsHISGToS HUNT made "A few remarks
calling upon she Convention 10 submit tie question
TO a Select Comn.lttee.
copied.
Judge C.RTFxrER Of New lersey then offered
resolution calling upon the Bishops for a form Of
prayer IN relation TO the wicked Rebellion now pre-
vaillug IN the land-ior he safety OF our country,
and The success Of our armies IN the field. rtero
| I.a 10
can we do it Can We take 10 notice Of a question
which brings fear aud sorrow 10 go many families
Who vii deny pray ers for the safety OF the Union
He should like an adore rou this Convention 10 our
errng brethren Of the South. TO Sakc possible 10
reunte them with us, however, the tnccess OF our
armies j. indispensable. La Offering this resolution,
I he hsd performed his daiy.
Nr. Carpenter was interrupted by DR.. HIsBEE OF
New-York, WHO thought wc had speciJ prryers
enough. III did not Ike 10 have IL 20 abroad Mat
sc had not prayed for country. lie wa elpo.ed
~ aQitstng the question III the Convention.
Judge CiRPESTIR continued bis remaIks-lle
Insisted tlat the Convention Shoud not depend upon
sreeinl prayers in particular churches. II wohld
cave the Convention make M expression II Its cen
tInent Of loyalty. Why shall We Let express our
ouiuiou
The Rev. DR.. MEAD said he saw difficulties which
he ihought Tho gentleman lAst up had not discovered
IN the way OF special prayer lrsmed ~ the Bishops
lie desired tho reporters 10 ray 10 tue world, that
we have suitable prayers. lie theu read the prayer
sI.oa by Bishop Potter, and used ID our churches
! lie would say to every ebuchman " re,ist begin
uings." lie did not consider il tafe 10 Irus, the
mat er In The hands 81 the Bishops. He moved that
the resolution before the House with all kindred
resolutions, 10 referred 10 Special Committee with
instruction that the Committee report as early ~
tuesday morning.
Biz. BRUsOT, Of Pennsylvania. said, be was en-
barrass.d 10 raising lis voice in opposition TO The
gen emau who had spoken. lie would have us
bteye that We are not nnder the direction and dota
lion of tie ijlshop oil Sew.York Let u. Sir, meet
questions they arise like men, and not attempt 10
dodge them. Judge Carpenters resolution 10 good
70 lar hs t gcs, tut J. docs not 10 far enough. We
want prayers 10: thc Government, we want payers
for tho Church. We csgnno isDore tic .gct that we
should pray for orr county. With his high regard
for tie L. Iuse OF BishoIs, lie would have ,bis House
suegest the kind 0; prayer We want. He would not
soittn the prayer ~ suit those who Ge Ia rebellion
against us II tie South.
Dr. MEAp afkcd n the present pr.yer dii not
ever the purpose. Nr. BEuboT replied, ~ answers
for the LeOels AZ well ia Tor us. Dr.. MAD made a
few remarks. d.. uasOs II Mary land wss opposed
TO sny new prayers. lie read tie PRAYER ascd in
Maryland, but Acknowledged some Of Tie churches
Jgdre Arrw,rER Of Minnesota jcplored the
waste Of uue Ia discussing Tire question. We have
gone over the ground 81 war, Seeesriyn, and slsv-
I.ry. DIR. TorTEs Of Iowa denied that th- Slavery
question 1sd been introduced. Judgs ArTwhTEH
s,ii continued 10 ooenpy thu time OF The Convention
COM lAinins ilat 10 much ''"e was wasted in dis
cutsiou.
The lion. L. C. wIsTnRop aid he was indis-
Iosed to yfoloBg tie debate, but lie wished To an
ever .he gentle man from hiuueeota, ia defense Of
the Chsr. He had known debate 10 last Elk weeks
ia the iouse OF Representatives, on the simple q1es-
ton Of tah. The resolution las not been rejected
ouly laid upon the table. IL 10 taken up any
moment. He agreed sith his friend DIR. hesd OF
Connecticut, although be al Ia IA hSryland pew.
Tire question !, detachable even though referred To
Special Committee. Having yindicated the Char
lie would ssy he would be IN favor OF abbr.viating
dscu1sion. lie had already sad that the assault ca
Sumter Was an unmaniy and uDgodly arsault. In
regard to the abeent, IN II Wise 20 put ON record any
thing that may sunder Ito little bes that bud us 10
lie Soulful Let M aid the Government IN bring
ING about restoration Of the Union. lie, the Gov
eminent DO tie denuncial ion-lct the Government
do the lighting, but let tie Church touch hndefly
the cords ihGI bind us He would have voted Tor
the resolution OF Judge Carpenter. llo would have
been willing 10 have voted Tor Air. BruDot r.solu.
tiOn Enough he would prefer 10 have IL nedhed Tor
tie grni ncAtiOn oil others.
The lion. MURRAY HoFTg.g arose to preeent The
resolutions pubhshed Oh Friday, but was requested
10 defer doing 30 until the vote had been taken on
JUDGE Carpenter resolution, which was read Us
follows
civil sar House Of BLop De respectfully reqoes.d 70
prepare form 81 prayer to be used ensns tn session Of ""
Jadss Capprsrra ably defended his resolution
lie referred 10 nursery story told by tse Rev. Dr.
Mead and said that our Soutnern brethren were not
children who could be brought back by such mater
nal considerations
Dr. MAD arose agan, and urged that the subject
! lie referred 10 q Committee.
| DR.. HAWKS had 40 objection 10 the devotion, nor
70 the Bishops iruning Tie prayer. llo was AFRAID
Of tho violation OF the COs'iut ion OF the Chnrci
The dangerous precedent would DO IN the way OF
fu.ure anton.
There are bn. two modes. one by sauon aud one