The dollar weekly bulletin. [volume] (Maysville, Ky.) 1862-1864, 1862-11-13
From the New York Times, Nov. 4th.
A Remarkable Conversation.


Southern Club" of Liverpool, on the 18th
ultimo. at the Adelphia Hotel in that city
Mr.. George w. Holt presided, and the com
pany numbered about fifty gentlemen m EN-
bers of the Club. Strong Secession speeches
were, of course INDUCED in, and the Con-
federate flag played and important part in
the decoration of the room. A few days be.
fore the banquet, Mr.. Morehead delivered
lengthy address on American affairs before
the N EN- bers of the Southern Club.
In the course of this address, the Elk Gov
ernor detailed the substance of q private
conversation between President Lincoln and
the Representatives of tho border States lust
after troops had been thrown into Fort Sum-
ter. On that OCCASION said Mr.. Morehead, I
said to him:
"Mr. President you say you were accident
ally selected. and elected by party; but
when you were elected, sir, thought
have been taught to believe-that you were
the President Of the U niou. I opposed you,
sir said to him, with all the zeal and en-
ergy of which I was master. 1 endeavored
| to prevent your election, not because I had
any personal feeling of enmity toward you,
but because believed that it would lead to
the very result we now witness. / opposed
you, sir, but you are my President; you have
been elected according to the forms of the
Constitution, and you are the President of
the people Of the United States, aud think
that some little Difference is due to the
opinions of these who constitute the ajor-
ity, according to the vote that had beer poll
ed, of !, 100 600 men in the United States
He at onoe rather brskly said, IF he was
a minority President he not the first; and
that, at all events, he had obtained more
votes than we could muster for any other
mAn.' l responded at once to him that did
not intend to recall to him that he was
minority President, but simply to announce
the broad fact that he was the President.
not Of the men who voted for him. but Of
the whole people of the United States -
General Donovan here interposed and pre-
sented three alternative propositions to him.
First, that he might remain perfectly idle
aud passive and lie: the dsintegration of the
States go as it had gone on; secondly give
guarantees such as were asked and brin & the
whole power of his administration to bear in
obtaining those guarantees; or. thirdly, re-
sort to coercion and attempt to force the Sc
cediug States into obedience. When the
conversation had slackened little, I VEN
tured to appeal to him, in manner in which
l never appealed to any other man, and
never expect to do again. l said that as to
the last proposition Idesired to say one word;
that l trusted and prayed to God that he
would not resort to coercion; that if he did;
the history Of his Administration would be
written in blood and all the waters of the
,tantic Ocean could never wash it from his
hands. [Hear, bear, and applause
He asked me what l would do. and if 1
meant hy coercion the collecting of the reve-
nue. and the taking back OF the forts which
he said belonged to the United Statess 1
replied that that was the only mode in which
it was possible that he could, under the Con.
sti'uton. resort to coercion, by an attempt to |
collect the revenue and take back the forts |
He had placed himself in chair with
rounds to it. with his feet upon the highest
unI-a long, lanky man. with very large
SIDE whskers, with his elbows upon his
knees an" his hands upon the side of his
face, in listening attitude, and when he
would speak, drops his hands and raises his
head. Dropping his hands and raising his
head. he said he would tell me little
anecdote which had happened when be first
came to the Bar. An old man, he said. had
applied to him to bring suit, and made out
a capital case. as he thought; but when the !
evidence was detailed before the Jury it was
the worst case that he had ever listened to,
and while the evidence was going on. the
old m came, listening to the evidence him
self. and whispered in his ear, GUY it up |
lLaughterI Now said he. Governor.
wouldn't this be 'guvin' it up'?' 1 said to
him, Mr.. Presidett,' it may be said that it
would be 'guvin' in up but hadn't you bet
ter 'guv it np' without boodshed than
drench this land with blood, and then have
to 'guv it up? [Applause.]
"He said he had sworn to see the laws
faithfully executed, and addressing himself
to me, he said: Il would like to know from
YOU what am to do with my oath Of off ce?'
| said TO him that he had taken a solem IN oath |
to see the laws faithfully executed. but that
Congress was then in session, and applica-
ton had been made to Congress to give to
the President OF the United States the power
10 collect the revenue by armed vessels out |
side of the ports. al d Congress had refused |
to give that power. IT. said Congress
fails TO give the necessary power, Mr.. Pres |
dent. to yeu to collect the revenue bv yes
sells outside the ports. how you to collect !
ii? Do you think that you can send a COL |!
lector TO the port of Charleston. to the
port of Savannah or of New Orleans,
to collect the revenue there? Is it rot
an impossibiity, and does your oath
bind you to do thing that is impossible?-I
As to the forts, that is a matter within your
d scretion sir. You can withdraw the troops.
# you please. ! ou the mmander-in-
chief. and it belongs to you either to keep
| them there Or to withdraw them totally and
prevent collision, aDd consequent deadly
| and runous war; 'Well.' said he, raising
himself again, I will only answer you by
telling you little anec1ote which struck
me-excuse me- says ne, "a little anecdoseI
which struck me as you We're going on. III
| is from Esops Fables, and doubtless
your schoolboy days you have read it'd 10,
":Esop, you know. says he tib him
great principles often by makioesperateiy
mails speak and act, and aand he court to
there was lion once tbecome enamored
10 love with oeaufarry MN, anu TN T oio m
ed the lady, ano'or tneis Io"S'' uVs | M