The New York herald., 1862-03-12
the DEBATE IN THE FRENCH SENATE.

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The DEBATE IN THE FRENCH SENATE.
France tho Friend or the United states-
The Emperor's Policy Must be IAe Po-
ltcy OF France.
subject OF the reply to the speech from the throne the
President said NJ De Bossy desired to speak the ques
ton of eommercial relations with America
The Marquis De BoHsy-0ur deliberations have now
become calm, and am not the person TO disturb It,
taughtsr intend to address neutrality as
regards America, but wish first say Q few words
tho publicity Of our sittngs, which can hardly be longer
withheld. What want is
The PsEslpzNI-You are now far from America. "a
The Marquis DE BossY-Yes, but shall soon get there
Besides must observe that the address is wide field
The PREsIDENr-But you have limited yourself to Amsr
can affairs.
The Marquis DE BoEsY-I am speaking Par. g. I
gave way to NJ. de la Rocheaquelein, whom shall ever
be ready to oblige; but by intend to relin
quish my right to speak Par. q l would, however,
ask that the doors OF the Luxembourg should be open to
the two great bodies OF the State or al least TO the mem
bers Of the legislative body.
General the Marquis De LAwoEsrNE-Q Question Quss-
ton
The Marquis DIX BossY-I am in the most engrossng
question of the moment It is evident that were Sit
ngs public they would be less stormy than they were
the day before yesterday Under the public eye people
The PREsIDENr-But that is not the question. If you
the standing orders altered make motion TO that
effect. (Approbatlon.)
tions.
The PREsIpxxr-My duty is to call you back to the
question You were to speak on America.
The Marquis DIR BorsY-I am not bound to say before
hand on what shall speak
The PsrsIDsSr.-You not during the general dis
cussion, bupthat is closed.
The Marquis DE- BoIssY-Two great wars alluded to
in the address-hrst, that in the Crmea, which all
approved or cost u.s. it is true, 800 900 900 and
but that Is not much for that was attended with
the immense result Of unyeilng TO Europe the relative
weakness Of Engand-her weakness when alone-and
ohn.,lA lass has
The other is that in Italy where army covered
itself with glory but from which thought We should
have derived more profitable political consequences But
gentlemen what wish TO say the occasion Of these
two great is, that the money which they cost
might have been spent differently. With sssc SUM
might hare reached London (Oh, oh and laughter on
all the benches.)
The PRKsDKsI-lhe Momiteur viii state that your re-
marks were received by the unanimous laughter OF the
assembly,
The Marquis DE BorsY-So much the better: shall be
proud Of it. What have found in going to Italyy
dangerous nation which is ally only in name. BY
going England might hare relied the frieadsh'pofa
nation ohose alliance nn dicdys be precious ddtatoge
for Let respect as faithful Subjects the will OF
the sovereign but that does not prevent US from speak
ing opinions. As TO what regards tho extreme East,
think that expeditions have procured glory and GER
advantages but in China for instance what
we have done is for the interest of England.
The PREsDENT-lhe remarks you are now making have
nothing whatever to do with the paragraph relative to
the internal afirs of the country.
The Marquis De BoEsY-ln order to get to America
very well take the way VI China. General laugh
teri
The PRxspENr-By doing so you conound all the para
graphs OF the address
The Marquis DE BoHsY-That is not my fault, it is
that the wording the address, which, instead Of be-
ing divided into short parag phs contains of out
rageous length. Our expeditions IN the extreme East
doubtless undertaken for the purpose of repressng
bar baTism, but by what will you designate the
means employed by the English police, which ! shall
make known to your THE Hon. Marquis here read
list Of the punshents inflicted in India, which caused
general excamstons mixed with laughter in the Assem-
blyl
The PREsIpENr-B1t it ia impossible to continue the
The Marquis DIX BohsY-Yes, gentlemen, these are the
OF barbarism committed but by tho English, and
have found them in Official document laid before tho
English Parliament. Those the means used by the
English towards their Indian subjects, and yet do
not make war to put an end to then As regards the
war In China sufficient for the pedition.
II the French, but the English who nsulted
and they ought TO have been lett under the blow Of their
humiliation.
General the Marquis DE LAwoEsr1Sx.-Your remarks
very polite.
The Marquis DE IossY.--I say what think, and the
Emperor who will hear words will judge Of them.
Certain people think they prove their devotedness by
the quantity of incense they burn but measure mine
by the courage oil saying things which may even give
dspeasure. Incense is 10 princes what the opium 10
the Chinese opium brutalzes the Chinese and incense
Supplies princes and makes them fall into exile.
the speaker regretted that tho document had been
officially communicated TO the bureaus before it
read in public But do you suppose, said he, that you
Submitted you it had been muncated to Others
il had been examined, discussed, and often modified
Why should not tha, which done for Others and
for the Journals. be done for usl (Murmuis).
Tie PREsIDST-what you say is ineXact, NJ. De Boissy?
The Marquis DE- BoEsY-The draft OF the address was
in journai before read here. (Nose. The form
in which the draft prepared might have been mod
fed leave free scope all opinions; and it
be regretted that the labors of the committee should APP
pear 10 be summed up in the saying only of what
permitted to say. l have seen with satisfaction
honorable colleague Of advanced opinions from whom
differ profoundly NJ. Pieiri quitting the regrcta.
In ed
quishcd princes who had twice done their duty. we'll
understand hatred Of the treaties Of 1885, but what
do not understand Is how people Affect 10 deest the
treaties and to love those who imposed them us.
General the Marquis Dk LAwoEsrisk-Thsy were i'm
posed on us by all Europe
The PREsDEs1-Do not interrupt ~ de LAwesstine, or
shall be forced 70 apply the regulations.
The Marquis Dr. Boissy-No, 1t not Europe that i'm
posed them u the English they the mas
ters aud they wished to dispose o France without con-
suit France they would not allow French plenpoten
tiaries to be admitted TO tho conferences that tho
despoiled should know the name OF the spoer. You
lore the English; tceii, then, Waterloo; hot I
pronounce 10 all old onmoies; at tbs Waterloo there
I,ar; uas the Fnsiish and yov hare ne,sr .cid ,cord
csd,na them. DO you fear t>mr ooh, oh.) For my
tor, do not (ISughicf.)
General the MARQUIS DE I-AwoEs sE--Nor zoe either
The Marquis DE- Bois>y-ls you do not give tho English
a coalition yos, tcii sasy conquer fm
FOR this yo hare only % raainon n7draig Nth A,nlca
You will then England Offering TO the world the spec
;ac,e Of poops enduring euerhiRS fer the safe Of orey
and naughty onu uh the ,cedk. You tpoa hop humble
hds Tern tcth tUtfd Sfdfci. " she
ishs inroire you the 1percaa aru1gie Is 10 eoksn
Po,os Of rh,ch she Is ofndd. hope see France
Involved IN a with the United States for the humili-
alton Of that Pososr oud give England The snpreocy Of
the now ask myself whether ought TO enter
the Italian question. (No, no.. 4 will then So
but only regret that the amendment the evacuation
Of Rome that has been so much talked or should not
have been produced In this discus sion
The PRfsIIESr-No amendment has been Produced the
Mnie,r said that he amendment you speak OF
presented.
The Marquis DIX BossY-I regret that II should have
been lost by the way.
NJ. BuIAuLT, Minister without portfolio-Tbe govern
mcnt s anxious to clearly make known it's sentiments
another point, mcoied by the Marquis de Boissy
when on the other side of the Channel member OF the
English Chambers, not sharing in the FEELINGS OF his
neghbors and Of his colleagues makes by chance VIC
lent against country, French feelings suffer
from it, and II Is not without emotion that the echo OF
such discussion heard this side Of the strait Tho
reason that the two great nations proud
ccptibls what touches their honor Expressions OF
oaL,a are nhia.iianahle "