The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1862-11-19

vaaea aSaan@ iseoif must fall they must either be
exPaaane4 Afterwards that that was a abstract
opinion, ana never Intended TO b made the basis
Of Hi politioai action. He rsmarksd at the ssne
u1e that The clause fn the Constitution Of the Uni,
I'D States requiring fugitive slaves to b delivered
ap was eoossitutionai provision; was pert q
tie organic law Of the land and that be would exc
ease Il with more 6dslity than any Southern man
NAT they could possibly And, and that be could
not Imagine what was the cause of the deep and
apparently settled snmity that existed towards
him Throughout the entire South, looking ut me st
TIE time - II to invite IN answer from me. 70.
pied that b was very much mistaken II he sup
poesd Wat the deep pevadins fssling through.
oas the South originated In any personal snmity
tewards himself; that did net supposs that
thsrs was any feeling Of that kind on the part Of
a individual In the South; that be the rsprs-
sentative OF great pdfty-of very se< <tioral
pArty-saeetsA on . platform which they consid.
cred weuld. carried ont b destructive Of their
dearest and esst rights; and that It was on that
common oovsrnmsnt, the Government for all the
States In antsgonssm 70 the interests of pcrti N
OF the very State whose Government il was, which
was the cause Of the deep and titled feeling whish
to Lin then 70 givs the guarantees which were de-
mAnded By the Southern men IN that Pescs Con.
ference. TO him that 1t was in his now.
q; that he was II that tine power In the sixte;
that hs held In the hollow of his hand the destiny
q thirty millions Q. people, that If he said that
the guars1tss should b nads, and would make It,
tAsrs would b. no dlnsulty b carrying out any
pfosranms that might bs adopted
He nd HAT hs was willing to eivs q sonssisu.
tionA guarantee that slavery shoaId not be mo.
lsAeA In any way, directly Or indirectly, IN the
States; hat he was willing to 60 further. and give
cuer.ntss tnat Il should not b nelested IN the
ths and say that It shsuld not b distu1 in the
dcs&s, arsaaal- forts, and other places within the
lAvshoidiAg States; bat for slavsry In the Ter.
risorisA tAat his whole life was dsAisatsd In oppo.
satiOS to tta AYtn0&00 thAfN. that n al ot>A
BY party which had made that portion Of its
platform. ana he should eonaAer that he was BE-
GayiHg that party II be ever agrssd, under any
stAts of the cass to allow slavery to b. extended
In the Tsrritsrisa We pointed out to him that
there was aot ssrs Of territory belonging to the
Unitsd States where the fost Of slavs could ever
tread that thsrs wors natural laws which would
frbid slavery going into . nountaaous region, and
the colder regions Of the North and that It was
utterly imposzibls that slavery could ever extend
thsrs; and We denied that . eomnon Government
had power to make the prohibition, and asked him
why, he was . really trus, sincere. Union man,
have n empty prohibition when the laws Of nx-
turs were Q stronger prohibition than any that
could % passed BY act OF Ooogresss (Hsar, hsar.)
That be waived. BY saying that he was commit.
ted on this subject. Then II was that replied to
him, mi. President. you say yen were acaidsnt
ally selected and elected BY . party. You were
the candidate Of the party, but when you were
nsve-that you were the Preaidsnt of the Union -
/ opp0sed ysu, sir" l sad TO him; with ali the
seal and energy Ct which was master. sndeavor.
Cd to prevent your eleotion-not because had shy
personal feeling of enmity towards you bat DO.
cause believed that it would lead to the very re-
sult we COW witneas ] opposed you, sir; but you
are my Prszldens-you have been elected accord
ing to the forms Of the Constitution. and you a.s
and think that aome little dsferencs is due to the
opinions Of ttose who constitute the majority, 40
cordns to the vote that has bsan pollsd OF 600
man In the United 6tatea"
uA hriS In co{A No.
nority Fxsaident he was not tbs Arst aud that, at
all events. he had obtained more votes than We
conld muster for any other man." think, as near
a. can recollsct. those are about his Identical
words
responded st once to him that did not intend
to recall 70 him that he WAS minority President
but amply to announce the broad fact that hs was
the President not Of the men who voted for him.
That Of the wishes and feelings and interests Of the
whols people Of the United statss-the party with
1.l00 o09 majority - well - the minority party BY
whem ho was elected, ought to bs oonsulted BY
him.
General Donovan here intsrpossd and presented
thrss alternative propositions TO him. first, that
hs might remain perfectly idle and passive and lot
ths dsintsgrasIoa Of the States 90 on - 1t had
liked, and wing sis whole power Of his Admins.
sratoa - bear In obtstning thoss guarantees or,
thirdly resort 70 coercion and attempt 10 force the
ssssding States int obedience. Hs illustrated
very distinctly and clearly those three PROPOSE
Mons.
When the eonvsrsatiou had slasksnsd little
vsnsursA TO appeal 10 hin in manner In which
never appealed TO any Other man, and never OF.
sision desired 70 say one word-that trusted and
prayed - God that hs would not resort 70 coercion;
that II hs did, the history Of his Administration
would b written tn blood, and al the waters Of
hands. Hear. hear, and aDplauss) He asked me
what would DO, and II I meant BY coercion the
eollsotion Of the revenue and the taking back Of
the fsrts which hs said belonged to the United
which Wa itposGibls that hs esuld, under the Oon
stitation rssGrt N eosrdon-by IN attempt 70 col
lset the rsvapus and 70 take baek the forts. He
had placed hlsDelf In . chair with rounds 70 1t,
with bis fset Von the highest round-a long, lAnlV
man. with vs0 large side Whistsrs, with ia .
bows upon hh knees and his hands upon the
Of his face. In IN attitude Of listening, and WIN
b would speak be wooM drop bis hands and raise
his head Dropping his hand and raising bis
head As said hs would tell nae little anee-
dots which had happened when he drst came
to shs bar. An old man. he said, lad applied TO
hun 70 bring suit, and %ade ont capital ease, .:
before the Jury It was the worst ease he had ever
Lstsasd -. and while the evidence was goiAg on
the old man cane, listening to the evidence him.
G.usatsrS "ksw. "saia he. governor, wouldn't
this b 'guvin' It upr"
assure ysu, Mr. Chairman, don't present /. In
any light different from that in which It actually
eseurred-noos whAtsvar. ] said to Elm: "4r
II up;' but hadat you Sstser :guv i, up' without
bloodshed than dfench this lard with blood, and
asksd what he was 70 % with his oath Of ONCE -
He said he had sworn to 80 the laws faithfully
executed, and, addressing himself 70 me. he said:
Il would Aks to know from you what am 70
do with my oath Of ofacs." I said to him that hs
had taken solemn osth 70 sss the laws faithfully
executed; bat that Congress YVES then In session,
and application had besn made to Congress to eivo
70 the President Of the United States the power to
collect the revenue By armed vessels outside Of the
ports, and Congress had refused TO sivs that pow.
x. "M" rid, "Oonsress fails to giss the neces
sary power, II. Prs:id:as, to you to collect the
70 collect lti DO you think you can send col
eetor TO the port Of Charleston, TO the port Of So
vannah, Of of New Orleans, to collect the revenue
theess Il II not n impoasibility. and does your
70 the Sorts that matter within your discretion.
cir. Yon oan withdraw the troops II you please
Yos ere The Commander In Chief and II belougs TO
yea either 70 keep them there O. 70 withdraw them
totally, and prsvsat collision and consequent
dea11y an1 ruinoua wa"
oely answer you BY telling yoa little ansedots
which SRuek ms-sxeuss M" aays he. - little
aneodote wAish strusk me- q you were going on -
Il 10 hom 1sop's fables. and doubtless In your
e: zS: e:s: :.. .::s n.s: f. sss K:
b making mate aniaais epsak and 81, and -.
eording 70 him there was Hon oncs thaa was dss-
peroSely N love with . beautiful LADY, and he
:ots1 hs end - ls1y 1900 - e. s:s@o.sd
wers aGko1 Sor thals eoaAnA 1hsy were a6ald Of
~ roVee q the Nsn. With h long end shasp
DAVIS "a ~ tusks, anl thsy said % hin: We
san hass - os5eetaep - g rs1gssas!e !essoaase
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