Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1862-05-02

tells that Inc officers own all the property That !.
probably So
Mr. SHERMAN. My friend misunderstood what said
said there were probably pyates in the army Of tho
confederate states owning slaves. have doubt that
the great body ofslavcs in the southern States owned
by people who quietly their farms, but whose sons
perhaps are engaged IN the rebel army. That is prob
able
Mr. Co1LAMBR. lam not familiar with that; but
supposed they did not let anybody stay Al home on his
farm, but required every one TO contribute in way
to aid OF assist in the rebellion They do not suffer such
people 20 De there There may BE- old who cannot
perform military duty but they make their contr
button, they must aid and assist give their countenance
20 the rebellion.
Mr. SHERMAN. The proposition offered by me does
not embrace persons who simply give aid and comfort
on{ officers who are actually engaged in armedtebelon
made that Distinction II certainly includes civil officers
MI SHERMAN Certain civil officers.
MT CoLtAMBR Aud includes those who have owed
allegiance 10 this county and afterwards Abandoned IL
That proposition will include the people who own slaves
mainly have no doubt the gentleman intended in.
oude them. Those who the slaves also own the
land generally and all other species Of property look
upon the practical effect Of these two propositions as
amounting 20 the thing. Now let us look A. the cf-
feet for amoment The way TO test thing ofthis kind is
~ some measure, 90 "try Il on
short time since. Mr.. Cave johnson was At Clarks-
vo, aud hc informed Commodore Footc that the rebel
army had gone away from Clarksvle, and he had bet
te come there and take the and take care oft
These people had an been engaged in the army pretty
much, but Commodore Footc and took possesson-
people were n great conservation not knowing what
would happen and he published a card informing them
mat they remained 40 their houses and attended to their
ordinary business, aud behaved themselves they should
be protected When Gen Buell. got 10 Nashville he pub
hshed proclamation the same effect Now supnose
you pass this bill in this shape, and Their city which
has been possessed by the enemy is abandoned or their
soldiers are driven out Of IL Tho people " that city
nave been almost entirely concerned with the rebels and
thy come 20 our general and say wo satisfied can
NOT continue this rebellion any more willing TO
submit we want Go know whether you will protect us
rom wrong and violence" "What do you want 10 be
houses our residences you have got no houses voa
have homes you be protected In YOUR rroncr
~ you have not got any property the whole Of it was
oonhsoatcd 10y Congress last week and we are here 10
sell No. dispose OF IT, aud put the purchasers into POSSES
soui you are all Of you ia that condition" is that all
mat is len 20 us 10 we become obediont the laws -
lcs ala expect To- be shot do know that there
anything else II you resist and go on do not know
no" You Wl come OUT but you submit to subject
yourselves 10 our laws that will be your fate and your
slaves will be set at liberty aud your sx or eight mil ions
OF people unhouscd have nothing and have nothing to buy
It with" Laughter
now The road 90 peace lies in such path am unable
TO see how peace be attained by any means Of that
KIND on but 1t is said We must have money our
people are oufdened with taxes and debts aud expenses
ana we must have something TO repay them / should
IKE 70 ask man who talks m that way, how much he
thinks eau De got Of IT, What would YOU give for
farm down IN Tennessee Georgia. with the people
swarmirg around you unhouscd, people believing them
sces 70 be owners who were ouawed and deprived VI
Their property by you Why sir, il would require two
Sgmehts to AXE care Of every plantation Laughter
No man would give dollar Tor such a title Then idle
Is Tue idca OF realizing peace in that WAY.
come now, Mr.. President TO talk more particularly
IN relation TO another branch Of this bill which is not so
obvious perhaps. Ii that there Is another
purpose mat covered up by this pretense of forfeiture
OF consca on and proceedings rem, Nhch have real
y nothing TO do with IT, When we are continuing to.
Sether aud talking freely may as well tell the truth
is not cannot exactly recommend my example 10 that
respect as the old gentleman did who told his sons that
honesty was the best policy "because, saws he 81 have
.tltd u both ways. Laughter Now, the truth u.s.
mat there is large provision n this bill for the liberia
luu OF slaves, and strongly hat
more particular friends Of this bill regard that al tho
lil without that they would nothing about IL
heny OF hem have no doubt exactly that con.
iiuon Are you going to have these slaves seized as
inze OF war There is no provision Of that kind be-
ause you know that what you declare prize Of war must
'e he4ed uullng the war and n 10 Is not, when the
'eaoe comes it escapes, and you cannot take it at all
NO TINS provision is made declare all slaves free
without ever taking them There Is no capture Of Thorn
equied Ihey not declared prize Of war or reuuir-
ID to be proceeded with such. How is IT, then? they
IRE regarded as property. do not mean 20 fall into
Objectionable point that l do not believe in having
property IN man any more than any body else but Ger.
am II IS that the master he is called is acknow!eds
d by the Constitution TO have interest in the labor
hu service OF MS slave There is acknowledged DE.
uniary interest there recognized It's peeunary in
crest You propose to get rid II that interest clear Il
uli usqnarge H. Can you do that by proceeding 10
en- know we made law at the last session deelar-
ng that Whefe slaves were made the instruments 81
iopg by using them for military purposes IN aid OF the
'i ~! 9Neu'u DC Heei ana mat lalia within the
oeuhe' WITHIN the principle have stated But moth
ng OF that kind is here. IL put here purposely
eoiuse proceeding ~ rem implies that you have pos
9i me hng, and brought IL into court 20 be ad
uIaleu upon ~ is not provided thai these slaves are
ue taken or brought into court In any way adjud
ated upon There is not any proceeding "a " ~ ne.
wred upon them, nor any other proceeding II that
NOT uePIflng man Of his interest in slave without
ny oohlcuuh OF himself and without any process Of
w. anu operating as punishment on him, and yet
1'iNb "lh 70 nc hanged do not understand IL. 1t
'cms 70 me TO be ali that, every particle Of il.
ABtA' MI PRESIDENT, we have individually, and the
,cpu9ncah party as party, thrown creed and ar-
Ies OF political faith before the world. We have sub
vu 10 tneni most OF us personally individually at
stages ana believe u is not necessary for me
maxi any personal professions about that am still
t} muth inclined TO abide by phghted public huh I
u ~ lll'ate alth TOO cannot but observe that those
as 9i any thing else committed the creed Of the
epuone"n party on this point. Ike, for instance the
ohoiauie senator from Massachusetts, Mr.. sumner .
" 6e U uts words On offering a certain memorial, on
~. - vi Igoiuaryi 1901, he sad
a. o"et thls memorial, sir, because deem 1t my duty
~ m ulcnloflais mat are respectful In form, when
' ~ me- bHi an Offering it, take this occasion 10 de-
aug must e'phctly, that do not think thar Congress
a. any ilsht 10 interfere with slavery IN a State"
"a, "V' MO" uat the gentleman has ever spoken in I
x u'nei way.
Mr. CoLLA@ER have never heard him speak other
ls'' aHu nave generally heard what he had to say
on B'"u 20 huu mat TINS someN hat early and uni
n upg'tlhe OF our party had not become Outlawed by
a. ana hence was pleased to hear Senators who
nsar me ana whom always hear with very great
"u respect make use Of the expressions which
GU HDuu' 70 READ vi" use their language better
P'e'sllb tht llea thau any language | could employ
~ ~ "ouo'aule senator from Maine, Mr. Fessendeu,l
e course 81 the debate upon the bill for the aboion