New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1862-07-18
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.


concerning the passage ct certain bus. >, ,,u,-
Tie SPEAKER signed numerous enrolled DIS.
Much confusion pTeyails r,r.
ma hin 10 divide Michigan into two judicial as
tricts was taken NJ and passed.
Mr. STEVENS rep, Pa moved that the House
concur 10 The gsqges. Of lie Ssn, S 10 eA''"' ''
Mr.. HOOPER rep, Mase.l asked consent 10
introduce bill, providing
at OF and ser the Of August al postage and other
nt.d STAMPS hal be received Tor All cues o. ss .s
aud which may received in exchange for United S'e'
No private corporation bank shall make and issue sny
token note device for less then = 10 circulate q
ANY per .on offending shall conviction be pnnshe' ey
hne exceeding hive hundred doHsrs O. ihpi'1nS" Iva
ain uoLtns or both, at the d erection Of the NoufL
OBJECTION having been made 10 the reception oi
the bill. Mr. HOOPER moved that the rules be sus-
pended, in order that it might be taken mp.
Motion carried by Yeas, 6S Nays, 49, ,
Mr.. HOOPER caused letter TO be read from the
Secretary Of the Tressury urging the measure a'lo
nclo,ipe the draft of the bill for the object sta,ed
and also oue tor changing the weight OF the smaller
silver coins. ,..
Mr. PHELPS Dem. Mo- briefly commended that
the second clause in the bill prohibiting the issue oil
paper money below the denomination OF u "as
unconstitutional. IN -
Mr. con dem, Ohio moved to lay tie bill on
tue table. .,
The motion was lost By Yeas 80 Nays6l.
TIE bill was then passed by Yeas o. Nays -.
lands OF the Kansas Sac, and Fox Indians until tHe
Ash of March, 1868, was passed
Five Mes,aQes were here received from President
Lincoln, and read, Az TO lows:
P,H0n. Citizens Of the SeHdt aHd mouse 81 fteP'e-
seHtIhrcS:
Conp,dering the bill for an act TO suppress nsur,
rec,on. 10 punish treason and rebellion, 10 seze ana
contscaie tie property Of Rebel and for other pur-
noses aud the Joint resolution explanatory o. siid
act, as being substantially one, have approved ana
,igf ed both Before i was informed OF the passage
az the resolution had prepared the dra!t OF me-
sace stating objections 10 the bill becoming law,
"A couy of which draft is herewith transmitted.
Nf' - ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
PSIl5'. Cf,-eps Of the House of Representatives.:
I HEREWITH return TO your Honorable Body III
which II ORIGINATED the bill for an act entitled An
aet 10 snppress Treason and Rebellion; To seiAe ana
con.cate te properly of Rebels, and for Other put
poses together with my objections 10 I1s becoming
"a law.
objection IL il wholly prospective and II touches
neither the person property Of any loyal eiIiLehI
in which particular i; is Just and proper.
TIE fret and second sections provide for the con-
y,ction ard punishment Of persons VINO shall incite
ne, on foot s.sist or engage in any rebellion or in
sutrectjon against the United States or the laws
thereof or ihall give aid comfO. TO any such eN-
is,ing rebellion or instruction.
By fair construction tie persons within these sec
AR
IN Differentiated courts, under The forms ana all
the snbs;aIt sl provisions Of law and OF the Const-
fu,ion arp,cable 20 their several cases 10 this
,erceiyc 10 objection, especially as such persons
would be within the general psrdonIng power ana
also within the specla provision Tor PARDON and am
nesty contained IN tn. net.
L. also provides that the flaves Of persons comic
cat.d uuder these sections shall be free. ! think
there is an unfortunate form OF expression rather
than "A substantial objection Ia this.
IL is startling 10 say that Congress cen free slave
within State. and yet, were II iaid that The own
erho of the slave had flint been transferred to The
nation. and that Congress bad then liberated him,
the difficulty would vanish Aud Lie Is the real case.
The traitor against tic General Government for
feis hs slave at least as justly no he docs any other
property, and he iorielts toth TO the Government
against which he oiiends.
The Government so far as there can be owner
shin owns the forfeited slaves, and the question tor
Congress in regard to them il, Snail they be made
free or cold 10 new masters
see no objection to Congress deciding IN adj
vance that they shall he free.
10 the high honor of Kentucky, as l AIN informed
sbe has been the owner of some slaves by escheat,
and has sold none, but liberated all. l hope the
same j. true OF come other States. Indeed do not
believe it would be physically possible Tor tue Gen.
eral Government TO return persons so circumstaneed
10 actual Slavery. l believe there would be phys,
zeal resistance to IT, which would never be turned
aside by argument, nor driven away by force In
this view of it, have no objection 10 this feature
of the bill
Another matter valued in these two sections, and
running through other parts OF the act, Will be rat'
perceive no objection 10 the third and fourth
sections.
10 far a. wish to notice the fifth and sixth Sec
lions they may be- considered together That the
enforcement OF these sections would do no injustice
o the persons embraced v thin them il clear. That
a.. Ia -. Ia
nav the cost OF it is too obviously just 10 be called
N question. 10 give Government protection 10 the
property Oi persons who have abandoned It, and
zone on a crusade to overthrow that same Govern
nent il absurd, If considered IN the mere light OF
Justice. Inc soyerest Justice may not always be the
best policy. Tho principle OF seinng and sppropr-
ating the property of the persons embraced within
ihese sections is certainly no, very Objectionable
but a Justly discriminating Application OF 1t would
be very JIIioult, and 10 great extent impossible
And would II not be wise 10 place power OF remis
sion somewhere, 30 that these persons may know
they have something to save by desistingf
am NOT sure whether such power OF remission Is
or is not within Section ii without special act OF
Congress.
| think our military commanders when, in mill
tary nhrife. they are within the enemys country
should IN M Orderly manner seize and keep what
ever of real or personal property may be necessary
OF convenient for their commands, aud at tie same
zine preserve in some way the evidence OF what
thew do.
What have said in REGARD to slaves, willie com.
monting on the first and second sections il apple
able to the NINTH with the difference that no pro-
vision is made IA the whole act for determining
whether particular individual slave does or does
not al within the Glasses defined III that section.
lie is to lee Tree upon certain conditions bat whether
these oudons do Or do not pertain to him, no mode
of asccrlaiuing is provided. Tins could be easily
supplied. ~
oath therein required seems 10 be rro,cr and he re-
mainder is Substantially identical with the law
already existing. >.
The eleventh section simply assumes TO confer die