The New York herald., 1862-10-25

III.
tssc"d the bos.ds cf c6eiaI reerc IN ts siaes thot
Jrfron Darts kas wade nation of the South " airy
oonny ersr dd .,rn ths name Of nation ne So,sses ,
Coedcrdtes kcus. That Is the bare fact u need nave
nothing to do with the politics Of the question,
and is wholly independent. Of moral sonsiaesa, .,
tions. IN The parallel case OF Hafg we may nave
our own opinions Of the policy pursued by N.ctd
Emanuel, by csvour. by Napoleon and by Gati-
bad and il choose to apply TO the question principles
stricer Than anybody applies 70 any pabic q sooa,
question whatever then may proceed o condemn al
these personages OF conspiracy and violence, OF dufcy
ambition ialsohood and good deal more. Netefadess,
aist Gdm and 10 10 az ofu dan''t, tact tae Hddss
the testimony Of rier foes they have distinct charac
ter Their Institutions distinct, ad are even alleged
10 be ncon,natbe with the the institutions and
the gion of the North. They banded together by
a marvellous unanimity aad perfect cooperation
Ter Is net t,G Q, emaT9 p.n' stlcl = n ne thon
f.siats orn iops slor2 They xho are well ac &C
in asure in manner and IN tone Of voice. likely 70
result in sti wider eyeseace. They tell rs that even
her work cf disruption. Nay, the bare
fact, i is stated, not that Jefferson Davis has made
.iTef.oa Dauss has 9'res' z form end name. Mr.
G7dstcne his, therefore. ony made statement consid
eraby within the truth He has, however, only stated
what We all Of Us and canno! bgt The fedegais
DO not see ~, because they viii not l., The greater
tho truth, The greater the libel They exasperatcd
because there is so much substance and solidy In dsa
geeabe fact We old stagers Of tie Old World have had
So nqny such bitter experiences, have been
ceocd by ad scrsi,y that yyo know how to take things
that possibly be helped Our wisdom ru largely
tho folly OF trying to mend what cannot be helped Of
eryng oyer spit milk aud the like By this time we have
afa 70 eat humble ie with good grace, both at home
and abroad, Washington testify. The Americans
are as set Ia their political boyhood, and cannot brock
the dry cssons Of experience aud the stubborn oc OF
facts. As sr Gladstone says, they have noble instincts
aEd generous cmoioas. They fee! and talk wcl.a
little too we'll but they have rot yet drunk Tie emp of bit
tegEess Is England has They thought it 70
como 20 them They are mistaken, but wIlno. cc'now
ledge H.
From the fact which Mr. Gladstone notices lie concludes
very reasonably that the ohfedeFaes rho are ion,
ett remdts 50, ara hat tsar neHoaalRH W. no, q
AFFORDED bac mo .he Unira 81 M tine ttiS Is 9ro.atg
de esEtc'1ton IF sjs,stg-aine EaoisAmen out Of q
tGsGfeG. Many have their own opinions as to
The origin OF this war, the results t. ourselves,
and other points; yet asrce in the utter impossb!-
;y Of Tho Old Union beng restored any union
eHCccd, unless possibly uEter military elnsre. -
Tar, ~ agree with Mr. Gladstone The claa OF The
parti The negroes OF the Southern states is still
rrobematical. We WISH indeed that could see our
way Mr. Glalst0ue's conclusions. He Niegs that
whereas ne ,osols Ucn t = stood i5Gcf 10 ne air
nance or Sdry rn6 he feyaj Ses 9a aoo be 'eleasd
fs0a hot plaos therefore the PRESSURE on .Lc slave VIII
be oay hall what IL has hitherto been. This TO
~ hc frontier separating slavery from frcjom
Hcnce,orth, it to be assumed, slaves viii only
have 10 cross the Potomac or spch o,.cr boundary
line as shall separate the two Uncns, ard they will
be free This, however, takes for granted that tlcic
will be no such thing as an extradition treaty for
periy. What is more, it takes for granted that Mary
land or Pennsylvania and the Northern states generally
will be to.erabe piaoe OF residence for negro Just
capped from southern master. At present this is far
from the case, and ths federal government episy
lts only Lboria Central America some
81 colony still in the clouds Mr.. Gad tones friendly
autiepatons, therefore, will not bring much cofncrt 10
the federal bosom. The question of slavery has s.l to
be answered. md II cU mt BE- oa1csrcd az proclapn
on tsc dc African Is evrycaere fre. t,t these negroes
tatso e they ,osu stai te ncroes, and
drs. them # their slau'sh aaasc an cen auash hssn
phie IF Trey are TO be cr7d7cIpd,ed drioqcmotd, and
hat not IL so be in HGrca sccy and in due tine
bat DO not how il is to be done either Jy M lin
coins proclamation or BY any possible esen, Of Ms present
LIKE TREATMENT FOR AMERICA AND ITALY
From the london Times, Oct. III.
:, Mr. Giaasscne h.nsef, we are bound to say,
Though lie recognizes American dsanio fact he
rot laok 10 i whol: distrust II orr aas Of ses
mn charges Though hc gees ahead, he has his eye
the horizon The course IS plain, and it is only
safety. We must rec .nzc actual and well asserted
unlaasc them; but together with the rest OF the world
aitst yecoi-. erag wies, and to recognize
yaie for iIly and 4as'cn. Would that al. questions
capable OF determination. The good people the
shores G the Tyne their way very clcary through the
American difficulty Al home there few matters
not quite SO easy
TIE AusTocnATs SUPPORT RECOGNITION.
From the London Herald DERBY organ) Oct. 9.l
OF very different kind. however, from his Italian
policy VAS Mr. GlAdstone's confident declaration that
President Davis had made nation Of the Confederate
States ~ America that the oatherncrs had successfully
achieved their independence These words, told
excited great sensation the meeting: we'll they
night. They are, OF course MT He kaph0sd,d
prestens # iEinidot cpior: they aiu te taken As
deiite,aie conc4 Of fs Ccyine, n soiicl he is mss-
jsr II viii be understood throughout Europe and |
America both, that the English government convinced
ne time aas come 10 nze The independence Of the
south TO do so is indeed only 10 acknowledge an ac
campslc fact. In opinion The recognition might
have ceme much earlcr ba. we shai not quarrel
the past II l. enough that England, ia concert pre-
ses eh the oker Posesrs Of Euftp shat dectdTc
nst he South has Jsconse sl-rdte and feptads,s,
ton. All that is needed is that their ain TO the indie.
Ienerce they have hardly shall be acknowledged.
Let the governments OF Europe say, what all men n
their hearts feel, that The conquest Of South npos
sib.e, and the work IS done
MANCHESTER OPINION or THE GLADSTONE SPEECH. /
ltrom the Manchester Guardian, Oct. 10.
Cpou this (sfr. Lincolns) toter1g administration and
distracted people Mr.. Gldstones speech at Newcastle |
mus: fall wah terrible effect II is necessary sup
pose that his words point iD,diae recognition BY
oorerrEssat Of SouGsrn Independence he hfnssif
be f0Ygh. 10 dsprscdle sncI Interpretation when he
sesls o. exposulation or inteposition as duty that
may arise hereafter. IN fact ne dGicules in he oay .,
recognition much Hts they rsTe The |
,thern government. has not yet eric,y anrourcel e
tryitsres claims and OF those nt,a1ali un stray
re ~ portions sU occupied ~ he Nor Il, des
Al cR pgnt s 'oas su a.tirey prosecuted Now, no
ton SELF liberated dependency; but until they have
practically abandoned the OF force to subduc it.
In the case Of America recognition would have no
In mitigating the ~ effects OF tho war, unless
not unlikely, it resulted in Uniting the conflicting par
ties IN The North, would only aggravaie the horrors II
the contest. MIR. Gladsores words, although hey
sa;,,ou coseguessees The Sorth may observe thai, If
he tells plainly It's cse 70 lost he also by implication
Yssgns ii tho possession OF MARYLAND which state the
South IL evidently yet prepared 10 give up, and IL
may be presumed that he would adopt similar view
with regard 20 the frontier In the West III tho federal
government ia wise IL may pos siby nd n the chanccl
lor OF the Excbequeis speech the means OF securing
larger share OF territory than win be able to retain by
carrying the 70 extremity. IL may be certain that
Fngisnd and the other Powers Of Eurore will look avora
bly, any terms OF peace which IL may propose, pro-
vjed only that they recognize the main facts OK the
Bat as we said before, is too probable that Mr. Clad
word Uil Jc REGARDED us fresh tnspN and will
this country which is utterly unintclIgibe to Eng
isnIneu.