, 1862-11-09
THE PRESIDENT and THE
REBELLION. i
What Messrt. Lfnc0ln and
Seward Thought of the
Crisis in Feb. 1861.
THEIR DECLARED WISHE5 AND
IATEEff0N9 As REPoR TED
BIZ EX-GOV. NOR CHE4D.

AAs A1H 4AV00 A9 AEfQA NEB
BIZ EX-G0V. NOR CHE4D,
E1.GoVcrnor MoFchead, Of Kentucky de-
1:Tcret ne add1ss before the 't3ou' bern Ciub''
Of Liverpool. on tbs Oh u!z, FROM which xe
extract The following account ot his cauver-
sa.!ons With alessrs. Lincoln aud Sewanl, lust
after the former appeared 50 Unexpectedly iu
Washington. He said he We: not an original
sectssioaist, but he1ns in the soa.h at tbs
outhteak, aud having property In Mississippi,
he tried to stem the tide ~ rebellion:
WHAT MR. SEWARD PROMISED Asu EXPECTED.
In that state ot atf,lrb, te5s Mr. Mossheal,
and kuo*fEg the consse that Nr s. xarl-
who, l. had been aunoauced &c W, WAS 10 b=
tue PR u,}eF Of the Incoming gadtn1n;etfatfpn-
had pursued, met him. and do not dee,n 1t
improper 70 ssJ here. as have sal5 On other
Oct:as:Opt, that Lc pledged his eacte4 houoe
that sEtfr should be IN collision betwttn tbs
North aud The South. flsar, hear.] s.Say.r
ksid L., ''Gorerpor Mcrehras,," laying us
lA1 q Or n5 essuulcer to cake 1t u.o.e EN-
ptatic. 'tl-t 1ot oace bold tie rjnB uf fovee
hsE,ly III knY hands, and If don't settl,: this
t1atsef to tiIe eAtlre satisfaction Of the South
tn sixty tars Mill glre 3on my head for y
toorbslL" tHear. hear.) Althaogh confess
tbs; bad hns li'ur confidence in sts. ). vazi,
tht ught II u:ieEif i:DIosslhls Il It III hs.oos-
able nan ccn:d mike pledges Of tnat kiea,
ard 20 shortly sftefward vio.ata THEM Ia the
nost shameless 1nBnneE
INTERVIEW WITH MIR. LINCOLN.
Just after Ni- Lloceln'= tndden rutry into
Washington. Msssrs. Mosehesd, R,ves, antt
ethsrs had al ia:er;ic* with hIn, which
s1urchsaa ssys he tuak down sh31.ly ai:cr.
We quote:
Mr. Lincoln commenced the coavesEa at:oa,
atf-F tevtirs',g Us very kindly, BY sitting that
le ~n- accid. ntaliy vitc'rG president ct the
United STATES; that he had rrEee a.pired to y
Foe1ts''n ut trat Kid; tina: it had never en-
ttred is.to hle head, cut t.on .he fi.c. Of bib
haSitS iEias.r race for the Sena.s OF the Cuj.
ttG states witt. Jndg- D,uss*s, II the s'a,r
u I,l,.o!@. bis pa.ne t*vau,e rro:ntaan>s and
liz ~as teI..,. I'd a,d Gltcsed afurrArt a. pre-
e:Leni u sle EEttcc s:AsrE; that rn.,1.nR
tiiat FACE IL local el':c'fun Ii: +;eeSass ! ii
tten l'ubl:Astd. and th.t ary ouc
night esszh'ne bis sDesghe5 aud thry
~~nld tad tlsat he hah said nuiAius
sgaih-t tic Interests OF thu sau.h. u.
dsnesi them to POM oat aay une selt.te. IN
Ill tne taflhas addresses :h4t he AAtf ,nsstts Il.
ih*1 canvass, tnnt cttu!i t,e turturrt i.,sp TN
nifty nEetLst thu Suusn, eYct pt, he ea,arhed,
OF tx:1resor, namely: ttlss - nousc dtsl.
c-d sHainst lts1t n.u~t tail :; they must eith.r
tt all eiaSe uy nj tsec Sla e.. mt he said that
L. 1Iialat1 Alter x:r.e that tt.t v;t5 an sb~
rtTac3 N{ talon, aOt n:yer t.tenEcd tu te uIauc
1Ac bss,s ii p.s political a.sion H.. re- marked
ii Tic satne tin:. tnaz the ciaus.. IN the con-
: t-Af!Un VI th,' United S!.sta ErG4:5,u , tttrt-
i've tls' Is 20 he delivered up, WIS cui..tlsu-
ll"ra! p:s:sis'uc, ~as 4 part q: !ae or:.anIc
lew OF 1n= lind, and that liz wont ertcvre
thai y iih n!ufr fidelity than any Sos,aern
Hist. tha: they cu,t1 posi- II Nad, aud b.:
e1nlJ 1ot lratctne what wss tee ct1sr nf tn.
d -.arf AFE+, $Aak
~sIu HIM tasnss:<,n; tt. eEtire S1utn, locking
II Eic II tie ta;nt time as If u inTtte an
All "er fl0M IRE. / repilet ,uat ne was verY
nucEetula,astn If 1t supposed .h,t the deep
psfre dtrg !~t:ins thsoush nut The 5apth origin
atec in my r. rsunal eDiGity to~art. hitnsslt:
that ! d,c Lot su2pos= th.t tb:re -as any Ill
irg Ut tbst kind t,u The par. Of au iudivtuuA:
Ill The South; tla. he w4= the Representative
o! . gf+at pz11y-eiectrd ou pla;1urm waich
they coEa:des=d woait, II CARRIED out, te de-
s!1nelIsr Ut their rgtss; AID that /: xas on
itst account, aid ttat aipae-the attempt 10
thru" cpEa1non government, tta govern.
tuent tor alI sae States, Ia autai,uu;stu u lae
Interests Ut porslon Of TIE very States
sLcte EoNctuIaeut 1t w1s-NbIca. was the
cause Of tie deep AID settled lecl:rg wbicn
t1i,ted :h.h:ssuut tic eotsre South. VT APP
teal 10 liul- 1heE, to give the guAsantle es
y hsct ners deruanIed By tae Southern iner Ia
mat peace coureEsnce, representing to him
Eat it WIS tr his luEr:, that to WAS at that
!1ipts power IL The state, .aaE be hrl1 in the
h"lsss' Of hit hand thu aestiny OF taifts m;i-
llohs of people: tbs. II ae said that tat guar
aisec fhun.d be n:Edc. nrd wouiI make It,
etsrs would be 10 officially In carrying ou;
any psc2raubae that mlgh: be adopted.
Hs said tha. b. Was .tlliu; to give cousti-
tne:oubt Guarantee thas slavery should not DO
usolts:td tn any way directly or fueiscctlv In
the States That te ~ss willing to e, f17t her,
and give guaslatee thu. IL should not be
: uiol-t:ch III The District sf Colutnbta: that te
Npu!d 70 sslli fIrthcr a:d say taas It shcu1d
not nt disturbed 1u the docks, arsen,1s. forts
and other plnces ia the tl,ysacldtng" Sla.0s,
ou. rs for elavely In the TeTr.tor;es, tha hls
Whole 1tss was dedicst d ia orpnsit.nu to sr5
cSttntHn there; r1nt he ~as elected tF .
P4lty Which h1d Inadc that = PARTON OF 1te
PLATFORM .,aud he should consider he WIS By
na. stg teat psrfy il be ever agreed, uut1=r ans
,=ueed in ihv T. r1i.or,-s
lepiied 10 him: - Nr. Prs5iiear, .Toa s1Y
ytt asr accIteut.l!y selected, and elected py
parts: 3*u"r1e tho cand,tate of tue EaTtF,
'"t ~hen soa were eser1ed, sir, ltaua:,at
stat yeu - ~ thy p.est3tns Of IT,: Cnioa. l
,he zraa anu energy Ut which, vas muster. i
| enda ayortd TO Prevent your election, uo. be-
| cauec had any personal le..1ing Of enc,!.y
toward ,un, but BECAUSE l e.1ieyet taat it
Roaid ltac 10 The very result we now wltus.s.
cppo*sc . otl, sir, but ynu STE l1sy prtsiteut
Of ahe constitution, ard ,oa. are the prest.
| Gent ni f1a people Ut tue Erlscd states, aud
th!tk that ebu4e little difference /. cue to
'he oriistpls OF thost ho constitute the u !.
/ lo1lty, -
+ He at cucc rather bsiskIy Sid. .lf he wus ,
minority president b. aa4 rot the tirst, and
lhat Ut I'll tyrnib he hsd obtained u,ore vo.e,
! than we couil 1nustrr tor any otber uau." |
t thjnk, " ntae HI cru recn,lest, those are
about his Identical woods
G-n- D1aovao h.te tatezppsea Ard presented
| 'Arec alternative Propositions to him First,
tnnt be- might rsnsatt, perfectly lille ind p1.s
i've Al let the Il:iAtea..;iCn of TIL. States IA
On al IL Lad E-De ou: secondly, give &u4gats-
tsca euch ~ are askrd and orthg tee whole
to~er tf his Atlliaistta ian to pearia obtain.
i:C those Ensrautses, OF khiraly resort 10 cuer
eian aid attsl1lr: T. iosct ,hn cscesiin, States
in'o ohcti*rce., lie eiliust5at.d very dse.iac;ls
ard clearly Those three propositions.
When the c0n1ersatfcu Ls4f sl4ck.ue1 a lit.
tit, I s=1tarrd TO appeal - hin, In 4 ,rapnes
In ~lich Eerer appealed to auy utro: ,.l4r
ND nevtr expect 10 CO agaia. said that u:
.o ric last prs'3asitior, de:irtd to say oat
~ord-ihat trusted and pna, cd to God thai
fe wcn'd not resort to cetsei3n: taa: II he
die, It. history Gf bis Standardization won1I
he xyitteu In bluod, atd al! the wl.sEs Of tht
Atlantic otc4A cCuld neyer xRsh it ffuln BIZ
hn1ds. ~.
H. aeksd me what would do. aud IL
nesut b coercion tbs c-i'ec.luE OF tta rere
E1t sId fhs tskirg back OF the fJs,s WHICH hf
taid belonged to the unl:ed StIcs. repli..t
that that W., the only mode IN which i Wy
Eoe+fhlt; that Ee could uudar the con stl:utto.
rssoit TO eoe:c!on--hy no a:tetnp: to col:t:
the Eerehur art to lake back tt. forts. H
lad, plscsc hilatetf Iu cstAIf with rounds t,
1t, WITH bis feet upon the highest round
loCg, laEky man, With Ec:y large sd: Hhts
| kerr, With hia efoo @e upon bis knees. aud bf
hauds upon the side OF hia f4e,., In an A:tt I'D
NJ IL H.