The New York herald., 1862-10-12

and friendly character 0f The policy " his Aeseys 60
sncoea which has guided US from she outset or the
eSb which the Church and Italy passing thro0gh %
sse our crts have hmhsrt been We have mot yet
WINGED ourselves Of the inutty a. continuing tocm IN
mot abandoning the hope Of attaining tho obecs we
propose 70 ourselves refusing 70 admit thai the de-
sraction Of se of things inauguraed IN NJ Italian
peninsula must be ssae qsfa ron condnhn OF ex,s-
neo -, ne temporal ,Se ~ sscl sud
consequence Of the establishment Of the Kingdom OF
Italy, certain Of beng the organ Of tns hnpsrors
in . letter addressed 70 me, the ideas with which
he has been inspired by long and serions reflections On
the respective situation OF the Holy See and Of italy
You viii nnd subpmed Monsieur lie Marquis copy Of
that import document and the cons 5deratons % ll
Of elevation q acdiiy and OF force which are therein
any comment my part would weokon, the ground on
which you win have 70 place yourself in your interviews
with Cardinal Antonei and with the Holy Father HIM
had pnrposey avoided, in prescribing 10 you the
course Of which you acestc Yourself st the beginning
Of January last 70 point out the plan Of concason for
the preparation Of which ycu were charged to
caA for the cooperation Of the Holy SEQ had
hoped, in fact, that cur Overtures would not have
been 80 categorically rejected, and that Cardinal
Antone would have assisted Ia seeking for the bases
Of accountable for the head Of the Church
and compatible with the events accomplished in the
Italian peninsula Before the resistance which we have
met with longer reserve might run the right OF being
misunderstood. The attempts Of the Emperors govern
meni induce the Court OF Rome depart In temporal
matters from its absolute doctrines may fail but II Is
important that our Intentions be not misrepresented or
misunderstood and that can have rsk 70 accuse
us Of not having clearly set forth the conditions which IN
our eyes would the Independence the dignity
and the sovereignty Of the Father OF the falthfn
without again calling question the desnies OF Italy.
Nscr, loudly frociaa, has tie Fm7ors government az
,sa @ 'sora g nasys 70 ,srs ne e@n,e @ e. am sn,ns
tRe become, rM e consent Of lfdfacc the cdIadi 9 e
great Kingdom 9hch haa been formed beyond The Alps.
All acts, all declarations conspire on the contra
ry show firm and determination to main
tain the Pope in possession Of the portion Of his States
which the presence OF our dag has preserved to him
repeat also with equal franknes that combination re-
posing any Other territorial base than the sou quo can
Be supported by he Empsors gorsr3s.sl The Holy
Father nc has done other times could reserve his
rights IN the manner he might think proper but an ar
rangement would imply his part, think. the ac-
quescencc longer exercise his power except
over the provinces still remaining to him Italy on her
side. would have to renqush her pretensons 70 Rome;
she would have to enter into an engagement With France
80 respect the Pondca territory and tar upon herself
tie greater pert, II not ae schoe Of the Roman deM
concord consented TO an arrangement of this KIND the
Fmpsrors government would deem II an advantage to
obtain the participation or the Powers which signed the
treaty " Vienna. and to unite their guarantee 10 its
would also take, either with the other Powers,
more particularly with those holding the Catholic faith,
the initiative Of a proposition tending TO offer 10 the Holy
See in compensation for the which would 10
longer find in the diminished number Of its subjects,
sort Of civil list, of which the nslienable securities
should be delivered into its hands, The Emperor's 90
vernnent would deem itself happy, for it's part, 10
contribute, in the proportion OF an annual sum Of
tnree milons OF 10 me srIeN00r OF me ron
tifcai 'rone and 10 the worls Of religon and
charity Of rhich Rome Is the centre. Thus pro-
tected from without by the guarantee of France and
the Powers which might join with her. the Pontifcal
government would only have concate the adhesion Of
its subjects by wise reforms and n once resoluely
deraken conformity with the principles which every
whore prevail in the organization Of modern societies
that task would not be difficult IL appears The
Holy Father lately observed with extreme justice, that
the temporal power however necessary il might be-
no. Grtice of fdh. II is no its ronstu;ive
than il IFS tegror& extent and the first duty
well rs the most arGG obligation OF ats sohatsr
r origin, as 70 aitlnce oih ne si1t Of their age, and 70
b w coaci''c,d that TIE assent Of the populations is s
presea! day. ii not ZIG o;le, al eas ne only soid foada-
tcn cf goere,sa gthsr.tg.
Sicb. Monsieur ie Marquis is a succinci but, believe,
complete statement OF the ideas which the Emperor in
tends 10 apply the settlement of the Roman question
These ideas you viii have to deveope 20 Cardinal Anto
nell an1 10 mskc known TO the Holy Father when you
have IN opportunity Of approaching his person Your
nnubcaons IN order to respond 70 the kindly sen
men's Of his Majesty viii OF course be in no way com
muncstory.
You ~:n have however 10 let il be und ersood that,
you are met rs catesor,cnly rs hitherto with the
theory Of imn 5,ty the Emperor government cannot
make that the rule o s conduct and that, if it should
unhappily lean for certainty that it's efforts TO
induce tic Holy Father to accept arrange
ment bad become henceiorth imposs ble u would be
under the necessity while safeguarding Us far a. pos
sibie The interests IL has hitherto covered with is soic
trde. 20 na Of extrcatng itself from situation
which II prolonged beyond certain time, would fasy
into greater disorder. Ynu authorized this
THuUvENu.
THE reply OF TIE rNEScH AMsAssADor.
ROME, June "a, 1852.
MONSIEUR LIZ yMsrRr--Iu your despatch OF 3Irt May
Evceency, inspired by the sentiments of profound
good will which nave ceased u animate the En-
pcrors government towards the Bsiy see pleased 10
state the conditions which seemed 70 rou rrorer 10
ran.se under the state of things recently established IN
Italy the independence, dignity and sovereignty Of the
Holy See.
These conditions which do not ;hiuk supsrnuous 10
recsptuate here consist ~ the four following points
PrsfThe maintenance nf the territorial st5n gao tho
Holy Father resigaing himself rael an reserves 10 only
exercise his power the provinces which nc retains
IS vhile Italy would enter into engagement with France
10 respect hose which the Church sl passcsscs. Thc
Sovereign PoniiG consertng 70 ad ~ this compromise,
Tie IPror's government Should endeavor % Tie
Powers whch ssned tho general act q vienna 80 rar
S.cone-,he transfer 70 the charge % Ialy Of the
greater part IL not the whole, ~ the Roman debt
TtiYf-rhe establishment. ,c he profit of the Holy
Father civil list destined compeasate for thl
sources whch be would 10 longer find 10 the reduced
number Of HE subjects In assuming the initiative OF
this proposition towards the European Powers and
particularly towards those belonging T. the Catholic
faith France shrd, for her part enage "a contribute
u The indemnity cfeyeu TO the ehcl of the Catholic
church the proportion of yearly income q three
m llions.
fbglh4-1hc granting By the Holy Father Of reforms
which BY Talying arclnd HIM his subjects, would con-
sodae "a the interim Power already protected abroad
by the guarantee ci France aud the European Powers
CODormshly 10 youf orders, Monsiur le Mnistre,
Mastered On my arrival 20 inform the Cardinal Secretary
OF tic pro- os0ns devclorcd " your Excelleury's
patch. Az second interview read 10 him tho des.
patch ertealo, and his Fmuence had yesterday
fore lin when, 10 fourth conference resUgnng all the
preceding ones ne sTTots 70 ne ors7rcs of ijct
te UeyT~r gcfusoi ,oich cre,shjur %
s.der o. final II IS may say under his dciaon that
have reproduced its terms.
The Cardinal Secretary ~ State nrst expressed
the feelings o grattude which this frc.h proc added
many others, o the good will of the Emefo The
Holy See inspired the Holy Father was un rfunate
~ impossible for him to rcy otherwise thar by this
mark OF gratitude.
.'Tne Holy Father. \. said his FmneEcc ne acannot
to anything wiuch either directly Indirectly
ratics in any manner the spciations q With he hss
been the victim He cannot 0lteaa,c. either 6iy o. an
dsrefig portion Of trystory sckiab ne mo-
p-y of ne Church cDd Of me rotoiSSd e.Jl Tie
conscience opposed H. and he held 10 keeping pnre be
God and before The Holy Father cannot there
fore consent that part of that properly should guar
apteed 20 him; II would he, IN fact n not IN right. an
abandonment OF the remainder His conscience, repeat
does not allow him 10 do IT, lie moreover, oSonih.d
thai uo,. poposaiops should hcrc been submitted han
before tie Ensperor's gore 1nt had no-gsGna.
ing acTn Piedmont the wible of the present die.
tnrbanees Why impose sacrihcey the victim rather
than on the one who had despolsd him ~
observed 70 his Emnence that had appeared us
nj