The New York herald., 1862-12-19


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Mr.. MAynAaD satd Il IVES Important that sons suca
should bs proposed 70 suAoe the military au,
thoriues 70 discriminate between "loyat men" and
sraitors" He (Mr Maynard) had been informed on the
best authority that In some parts Of Tennessee the
10 "ss ~hn our lines where they could not be reclaimed
merely for the purpose OF annoying US. 80 80.
Mr. wnzllns mentioned several instances 70 show the
injustice loyal in Kentucky growing out or this
estion In thus connection stated the OF young
and gallant ofcer who had been dismissed from the ser
something he repeated ought 10 be done 70 protect
loyal men, prevent which he did not want
70 see.
Mr.. IOvEJor. (rep) OF H., regretted this discussion
shameless attempt the part Of the Shareholders
Mr.. wcKuHK from the other side the hal)-Do you
call this a STAINLESS attempt
Mr.. I0vEyoY--l do call il a shameless attempt.
Mr. wIckIFrx-I am not at all surprised TO hear that
from your standing and position on this floor.
Mr. LovRoY-l call 1t a persistent and shameless at
tempt the part Of savenoder get the army tine
Uned Statesthose volunteers who have Of their own
free viii offered up their lives sacrifice the ALTAR
OF their country-to turn themselves to the base
business OF chasing fugitive slaves. And in this
the gentleman from kentucky has the Enron
terry to appeal to the justice Of the republicans What
justice there in holding any ssaves They all
have the right orun There just much justice
IN delivering SHAREHOLDERS into the hands Of the slaves
the ssveholders The former might Be done
with great proprety for the slaves superior to them
is undobted protest against bringing before the House
this miserable ulcer which is sought 70 be uncovered
hero. the rebels have friends and sympathzers On
this door they could not do anything than has been
done 70 retain their positions in this hail.
Mr.. BRcHAA (rep.) OF Ohio, replying TO Mr. Wicklide
said the reference Of this bill to the Judiciary Committee
was the proper one. In his opinion IL was violation Of
the constitution and the principle should be establish
ed Il woud return some day 70 torment the inventor
The bill authorizes the federal government to interfere
with the rendition and determination Of fugitive
within the limits of the States unknown to
the constitution The federal government cannot by law
intervene State ge aro this reiterated
more than once and not more frequently than by the
gentleman from Kentucky.
amplfyng the constitution in time of war II might not
be ampiied to meet the objection Of the gentleman in
the particular stated
Mr.. BINGHAM replied that the gentleman had not found
in his course any room for intnang any such ampdca
tion Of power that suggested He had attempted TO
exclude any such cOnclusi ms
Mr. MAIIORy-1hsn do not com prehend your positions.
Mr. BisGsAM-Then if YOU don't understand why do
you undertake to explain hem
Mr. MMLoRY-Jhere nothing in the question
asked 10 lead TO the suposition that understood the
doctrine Of the gentleman (Mr Bingham) asked him
question 10 fix my under standing OF his doctrine and he
assumed that understood him which ne other gentleman
Can do.
Mr. BNCHN--You undertake a considerable Job TO
judge of the intellectual faculties Of all others.
Mr. MALLoky-No; that would require omniscence.
MIR BISGnAM-rhe gentlemen, then, sets himself up as
Q Judge OF omnisceace
Mr.. BINGHAM then argued that the bill was opposed to
the lew Article OF War the Confscaon and Emancipa-
tion and the least the which expressly pro-
vdes that the Executive NAV employ in the service OF
the United states slaves whether belonging TO rebels or
loyasts coming into our lines. The bill for the pur
pose OF hunting down and seizing slaves.
Mr. WICKLrRE said that not the OBJ ect Of the bill.
Mr. BsGHAH quoted from the bill u show that the pro-
cess was intended to be served whether in camp
tho march, officers and soldiers were ordered under
penalty 70 make Of the fugtves. There was no
Limitation to the process but IL was general in its pro-
visions
Mr.. wIcxLTyE explained some points In this bill
Mr.. BINGHAM (resuming) said it was cowardy, mean
attempt induce the House TO send back to the enemy
saV who had 0od their nativc
protection and to return them to the hell OF human bonds
age. No Guessing over could conceal this.
remarks or Mr. Mallory that general order had been
issued forbdding army officers from conceang slaves
whether the order was restricted to that States
Mr.. MALLORY replied that he had made the order
broad than he had found to be examination
issued by General Grant, directing the officers under him
to obey the civil process respecting fugitive slaves
Gaping into our lines II was not an order from the head
quarters Of the army bat he supposed sanctioned
here. He desired to read the order, but
Mr.. LovE0Y said they did not want TO hear it read.
Mr. BINGHAM remarked that the order had nothing 10
do with the bill, which latter he moved TO lay upon the
table.
The bill was read. provides for the rendition OF
slave property belonging to loyal citizens the presen
proper PROOF be determined before
Judicial authority. officers and soldiers who refuse
obey the civil process or attempt to the slaves
are e. be deemed guilty Of msdemeanor and liable ~
civil sut by the owners Of the slaves well TO be
punished according to The rules and articles OF
Where the evidence Is sufficient bold the slave
cla ed he be returned the place whence taken
AZ the expense OF the clsimant. sc.
Mr. Blnghams motion TO lay the bill on the table was
agreed TO by Sc against 45.
LETTERS Or NARQuE
On motion Of Mr. F. A. CoSKLrNG (rep) OF n y, the
olowing resolution was adopted
Resolved, That the Committee on Naval Affairs in.
uc,ed report OF an early day TO this HOUSE whether
,arnx or e.oyng the prsea vessel fnopn IS The
No soO,' or the Alabama, and other vessels o: ike
he purpose rrsyas upon melehanimen engaged IN
awful commerce and what further legislation II any,
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Amy APPROPRIATION
The House then went into Committee OF the Whole
he Army Appropriation bill, for the year ending with
Mr.. STEVENS. (rep) Of Pa, in response TO question
rom Mr.. Nalandieham, said il contained an aggregate
ipars RsGsa ''''' s''e' ''' 49, - ~ '''''''
Mr. MALLORY. after the bill had been read through, OF.
ercd the following
Resolved, That OF the money Appropriated shall
expended to encourage the escape Of slaves from
heir.masers TO support and maintain slaves that do
ape from their I or SI any 81
the United States the rebels. a.r
This amendment was disagreed to-yeas q, nays 66.
The bill reported TO the House.
Mr.. WApswoRH. (union) of KY, moved that the fur
her consideration thereof be postponed until the "a Of
January next
Disagreed to--27 against e3.
Tne demand FOR the previous question seconded by
vote OF 90 against p.
Mr. MAIlogY said his proviso were aded TO the bill
Il would secure a unanimous vote.
The vote then taken on the passage Of the bill. as
l07. nays 81 WITNESSES May Norton
and wicklife
GkNkRAL POLITICAL. DEBAIE
The House then went into Committee OF the W nele
the first bill the calendar the bill being enable the
testng OF sanderson's breech loading cannon
Mr.. YEATxsS, (rnion) Of n.y., made a speech, during
which he explained the why he recently offered
declaring the emancipation proclamation of
President lincoln unconstitutional aud calcu.
lated to hasten The restoration OF peace and
~ assumption Of power dangerous the per-
Letuity Of the government and the rights OF the
citizens. He said thai he had promsed his con.
stituents 10 uphold the unity Of the republic, and
the supremacy o. be laws, and that he would support
the administration aud the President far 1.-THE
President would wage honest and decent war;
within the pals Of the constitution and accord the
usages Of civilization and humanity, for the vindcaton
OF the laws He (r. Yeatnsn) would If the choice
take the government wbou, sla, cry pre-
70 slavery without the government But diner
ms the radicals he (r. YeatmsD did believe
that slavery Was the Of the rebellion therefore, he
would do nothing destroy the institution could he
rhe support the Presdens exclamation
nberste the slaves. and he Mr. yeatmsn relied upon
,ne conservative feehng OF the people Of tie country 10
srstsn him IN his position on this question.
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