New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1862-12-12

= RAlal II.
WIN. Sir. il is suppased by those who synpa'u'no
with rebellion those who do not believe ~ maj
tanning the authority of this Government " fIor|
and BY force, that the hour is co ~; sovsrn.
they will be able so to emharrass tn,o 400
ment as 70 force it TO an lngioilous P7u0o
IT,, !, vhet they are dong, ana tha'
"a crbet IN. hon Senator unQuesliohaoiy uehe!es'
,bat /; uho he expec,s that is tie goos Gay coming
aud thai ia unouestjonably what Jehersou Jaws
understands is TO be his relle auu, aOM ne W Say
that Is what encourages tne ,arnau. IN E,one
e! ,oI,;oc, ON and rejoicing, as does the Senator
are are, Ksntscky. They say, Wait little. peace
nortv ia suringing up III the North, and by ana by
S,iI come the lime for intervention; and IL Is thls
cIsss of men, whether IN Congress or ont oil Con
$50 In INV judgment, who will ultimately be
found 10 be the very first men to invoke foreign
intervention, as one of the modes OF setting this
diffculty But it is said that this practice on the
.srt of the Government is cruel; 1t takes men on
mere suspicion without any evidence OF their crim'
iYalty. What is the evidence OF that 1hat
10 bare assumption, an assumption winch
i is not necessary Tor me TO answer. Nhsh
we a~e in war, aud the whole i"hd III
full of traitors, it is not necessary ior me 10
infer that the President is taking innocent men, the
legitimate presumption is that Tue rresiueI' na'
found il necessary restrain these men, ana meet
the assumption that innocent men or women nave
been deprived of their liberty OF restrained IN any
respect, with a call for the proof Whenever Seha'
tors bring forward resolutions OF inquiry mere, lhel
shoud be expected 10 back them up with proof, not
that the President has simply exercised the power Of
restraining some person, but that an innocent ana
loyal person has been restrained of his liberty.
MIR. SALISBURY Dem, Dell---How can we
present the proof until We ascertain what is the
charge Of guilt
Mr. MORRILL, am not arguing the question
of evidence, but il u person knows tina, he IL III
prison, he probably knows whether he IL guilty. or
not. III the honorable Senator knows that any OF
his fellow citizens have been confined IN the prisons
or forts of the country, 1t is not difficult, imagine,
for him to present 10 the Senate not the evidence,
but statement of whether the man is loyal or g
jisloyal man. SO much, | think, We have right 10
expect before we consider question OF this KIND
But Mr.. President not only Is there an entire al
sence Of any proof upon this subject, but the com
plant is entirely groundess. Some OF these men
lave been arrested IN my county, and / have never
known an instance where there Was suspicion that
the slightest injustice had been done 10 these people
Mr. Morrill, then contendod al some length that the
ordinary process was that men were arrested on
suspicion of crime, and justice does no; wait III iuli
proof IS made before arresting.
Mr. WRIGHT Tn, Ind) moved TO amend the
resolution 50 as TO Ike the call upon the President
instead of upon the Secretary Of War. In time
like this he was willing 10 trust the President, and
he wanted none of that miserable doctrine that
could be loyalty to the Government and dlsloyalty
10 the Administr alton. There was only MI uucon-
ditoua loyalty 10 the Government ana the party IN
power at time like thls When the lille OF the ma
lion WAS at stake be dared not do any other way
than give his hearty support to the Government ana
the President.
He said reference had been made TO the elections
in the West. He met the other day lifelong Wing
and asked him how he had voted and the reply was
that be had voted the Democratic ticket. he
Wright expressed his great surprise at that, az he
bad long enCeayored 10 get bis vote for the Dem
ccfatic ticket. WhereupOn the gentleman replied
"GoyernO. Wright, the Government Is not ir
earnest" He Wright dared not not now do any.
thing TO confirm such an opinion NJ that.
Ii we were TO ask JET. Davis how he maintained
this rebellion and how he united the South utter
" against the North, he would reply that he had
permit sd no man 10 live ia the South who opposed
lis Government or said anything against II.
Mr.. SALISBURY wanted 10 know II the 60
called Southern Congress had not passed resolution
calling on their so-caled President to know why he
bad arrested certain persons IN Virginia
Mr. WRIGHT knew nothing Of the case men,
toned. but he knew that no an was permitted 10 1--we
in the South who had any sympathy with the North.
lie wanted TO see some Of tie spirIt that
shown by " Stonewall " Jackson When he found
forty-seven Of bis men skedaddIng from the battle,
he marched them III front OF the regiment and had
every man Of them shot. Instead of this, We have
propositions for conventions. etc. Men seem 10
think that We are playing here, and forget that the
lie Of the nation i et stake. He would stand by
the Government and the President. lie would have
the power OF the Government felt by every traitor
North or South.
Mr.. BAYARD argued al some length 10 show that
the affairs Of the State OF Keltucky bad nothing
whatever to do with the State Of Delaware sno
that true loyalty TO the country dld not imply loyalty
10 any single individual. IL th.s i free country
the people II certainly have feht 10 INQUIRE INTO
the acts Of the President
Mr.. POWELL Pro-Slav., Ky said that be bad
said that the President had violated the Constitution
and he ready to prove 1t. lie dened The Senator
from Maine, any Senator Oh thls moor 10 The sts OF
II. hiatt r nh
OF the reople Of Kentucky in the Rebel army.
Threeourhs Of the people OF that state are not III
arms at all and he believed that there were more
men IN the Union army than in the Rebel army.
Mr. MORRILL, wanted 10 know If the majority
Of the Elective fighting force Of Kentucky wss not
IN afrn- against the Government
MI. POWELL was astOnishef that the Senator
MORRILL, was not better acq Ialnted VIII the state
Of things in Keutucky. lie (Morrlii should moi
make charges unless he is certain OF hH information.
lie pOwtlll thought that there were more Ken
tuckians fighting Tor the Government than there
were fighting for the Rebels II tic Senator'S on
the other side Of this Chamber wanted 10 say that
lie Powell was disloyal to the Government, be
wished they wOlld say II out boldly and directly,
and not by DnuendO or lnslDuailOD. II tLcy will say
IL directly " INN, be would meet them IN such a
WAY as to prevent all debate with HIN again IL this
Chamber. That is all he had 10 BAY on the subject.
lie (POwelO wanted 10 indulge n 10 per-
sOnantes with any Senator Oh this Moor, as
there was way TO settle personal mat
fers elsewhere. lie wanted Senators 10 meet
his arguments fairly. He did not believe that
this Union could ever be restored bv force Of
Therefore, he had opposed the war and should con
tnue to oppose it. lie was IN favor Of the Conven
ton proposed by bis colleague Davis, and should
vote for IT, lie should al-o vote for armlstice
while that Convention should continue 10 be ia
session He contended that President Lincoln mad
violated the Constitution ia charging Tie regular
amy-in suspendlGg the writ Of halcef co'pus-n
arresilng ctizens-in interfering with The freedom
OF the press, and in his recent proclamation. lie
POWELL rejOiced at We late elections, for he con,
sidered them gIeat moral victory, and lie expected
70 see such victories all through the other S.ales-
New-Haupshire and others
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