The New York herald., 1862-03-12
IRoN-CLAD VESSELS IN EUROPE.

In the House OF Commons the 24th uNnno. Mr.. LrD
sAy said hs would conoe himself 10 the general question,
Eli 900 which was fsoo ooo less than was
year. Aiodng 70 tho growth Of the estimates ho lssss-
Cd that. without going back 70 the limit OF 1857. We
not exoeed f8 900 0O0 II had been urged thds nary
should keep pace via df Of Fdcs IIe fully subscribed
to this demand and should ss % sec the naval sups-
macy kept up, cost what might. We ought. Ddesl.o
keep up maritime force equal not only to thai Of Fdcc,
bat Of az ohv ~atis and rigid advocate Of economy as
tansd herssf as the rst maritsase Power Last year.
sho fath of hAs his noble frionA LORD G. Psgss
prosecuted e sosg ean q :he Frsaca deck
Il tho sSsssoa ID ssy sis friend asked jss
ssors = a0cOsNt1f xa ss Dsii;,p ~ traossed
myy sksss snss sssesS IA a. 81 a.eaA as.sss - =
k4000 ooos His nobts fsiSad nsst sseed <hat otcr
:oss soss asasns sa:ir .roac.a raw. ..ad tsst "a.
. ry a tns iy,as visit 4 @ % The French
q 70 f e. ,s% sss, e y: r. ss r
statements appeared 70 him al tho tae be exaggcra
cd His noble friend The Secretary 70 the Admiralty last
shifs ard ee floating batteries tao Of satA ,ccYs ro,e
fs1 going .eseInakng twenty.ssven ships in ALL
which might be made o. Cor at The end Of two years.
IL was then insisted that ought 10 make correspond
Ing preparations His noble friend actually read out
names OF these twenty seven shs and finished by ask
(Mr Iadsay) was staggered with staiemea, Of
his noble frend that he could oppose any request
that wc should place eurseivcs on equa, footing with
France ss 70 ,on ships although he nesss had the most
remote idea that France had intended 10 invade
shores Hear. bsar,' from Mr.. winiams) The Eaa.
pcror OF tho French had too much common eense to
quarrel With England. Hs had all along desired 10
maintain peace with US, although II was said he
would pick quarrel With Is in our hour Of need
What the case however, Whe, scere is trouble
ihe Aoniic. he proved hi.asf best friend; and
although he mr. Lindsay had no doaa t,at tae eond.s
O. ss e /, "s - , ss a. ssss s Ts.s a.s sss
he tseeed that tia. arc. and ~atssty despatch Of NJ
1hoss,el had oboA a. rucS 10 do with he delivery
tho rdsf Nets sesding 70 those shores Bat
true that France had tho nuber Of represented
by his noble friend, He (Mr. Lindsay had that morn
placed reliance from which Il appeared that ti,oro were
Ia Goire, LInvincibe, In Normandie the Magenta the
solefins and another. LIavinoibls and La Normaadis
would s ready lake their trial trips FOR the nc
three 9oashs. Whore, thon. wore The ten ships which
s 3" w not ao. q then .Sa %
esives, We acd s too vsces, ehe Warrior class qoai
de Wa,sfw axd ths Black Prince; t1s Defence and
5ssss ~ .ss s' bsSs:s Ss warrior and "sb sh:
Defence. fhey 6a6 also laid down the Achiiles.
a. Cataam, a.d five ~ s.s.e osr9 pseSsa JSr
mates lat year. Taers ss' q sse o,psr
Nan the WdrIor for scAi aase 900 so,, sosed 7. Jy
and as,s were built o. building sshs~es $. ,ne:e
have tonnage q aEsus 5oce tons. We lad nsw ready
cared Win he four IRON cssS vessels Il srsas.
sentisx i2 600 tc0s Engisdc xas greatly ia sdvsNs
Of France, and. therefore, had reason 70 fear. Hs
$4,000 600 No portion Of i could b. rsgaisod for Tim,
bef TOT o: ecieAt wooden ships. eweBty Rnss
and upwards, we had already more thss 81 tir world
combined he wished TO know what was to bs considered
limit in cased vessels and whsu building 10
stop becasss considering our present position, he ss.
no necessity fov IL. Although 81 900 900 grauted
last year FOR timber ia mako . proper reserve a.
the noble lord had then said, $500 900 more was now
askse iof ths same purp0se What was At tor? Many sf
the iron cass1 vessels To be butt 10 private yards
il could not. therefore. be for them, unless the Ad.
mira'ty Intended 10 supply the private builders with
arthag these protests for he had protested yss
with tho same effect; but hs would, asvsrthe!ess sti
continue 10 protest against expenditure which escua
ton showed to be at the rats Of E25 per minute.
Mr.. BAxIex ccacurred WITH the honorable gentleman
who had ust resumed hls sest ooatendiug that while
peace With a'; the world IL became necessary
that strong ana coreot reasoss should be given 10, suca
expenditure ihe navy a. that now
proposed Ths right honorable gentiensn opposite tbs
mombsr for Droitwicip (Sir J..Patngtou) had good
reason for ssking increase in the oavy estimates
when he was ia os,cs; bscsass,. TO sss tho right
then rscoustruo,ius. (Hssr, hesr3 since then, loo,
- consequence OF grosuy oxasssTated statements
with regard to the naval preparations Of france the
feeling Of the country lad been suctF that TIE govern
msnt eoaM not very well saord 10 reduce oar naysl
forcss But be wished these points answered now, aud
he wished to know what had become Of la oiss whas
or agonta the Sosrno aud olne-nsbis vssss,s
OF OF which they had heard much last seysioa
flo ws toS tpossibiy, IT 4 was aos true by ms. Who
S,lssa~oss oS that the other oessets 1ogesrn1
bx sso~s; lsgf the maritime eonscrctio. Of Erascs sc
e0cA yeor Dsccesi and becoa,iy bity dss-
liked by ts peopSs, and difficult ~ frasces
thnt Me agTrinss Rs9ditt coakr1l o,
s % s.a ssa Ss 50 6;s $cs sr q s and
a Preach lake. tnsre more British vessels thsu
French, sh,,sin ths British Channel tbs French
set whstsvsr II he wers msntormed 10 these isctS
he wo.ild be hs las, ia the House OF tomniuis
orer opposition 10 the vote but no ssns.
thsag iiss specific into oa upon these poiuts.
q "a COun ofc
ply.
mates wish 70 answer fsw OF the rsms,ks thst bNys
fallen from ruy honorable friends me Lindsay and Nr
Baxter, aInsorry to have 70 ande tho condition os
have often led ~ feeling on the other side
Of the water fts thsrefore desirable 10 rsfrain fvm
ths especially tho public of this coastry Asrs
eery b,,is,s fso Me French Emperor hos actcd
ssou hoorobty The honorable gentlemen sssm by their
obsecvalous TO douot not the capacity OF her Msjssys
govsrnmeot but their info nation, think ne have
been dsceived lam bosnd totsu my honor sbis fe.ds
that e~yy ,g,d n stated scs year. ,eh regard 10 NJ,
Ftencs ~ayas foves. IS tae hear. bear. from Sir T.
efoai The koS-r,o osd So,j.y',o hath efaaS.
Mr.. LL,pssy.--Balt not in commission.
LoriC. PAerr1rus, but they s6ost and coaid he.
put to immediately (Hsar, hsar.) am perfectly
rssdy TO believe hA the progress in Abe French douf
selves and think he French navy 70 be MAN
iaiusd In its pressat condition Frauce dssaroas
.s 81 sas ss r sso. 10 and no S
address myself 70 the subject Immediately before
ths House. Tue estimates Of 253 propossa
amount TO I'll 1874 sos. The estimates OF 6-52-tbas
IL OF the present year linciudng f2o0, 900 supps
eatary estimate which the House granted last year for
-cassd ships, and likewise including f,e4 80 winch
was voted few days sgo)amouuisd 10 ft2 go ,5ss
A decrease 10 consequently shown In next years.
estimates, "A compared with those Of the psst year,
f5a6 ,2S3. The principa, Of the decrease 10.
nrst dminutiou IN the numbec OF men, to which shall
presently advert secondly reduction IN ahs which
is nscessary for the purchase Of stores and thirdly
rsossiou in the sum necssss for ths pschuse of steam
engines There II considerable reduction IN the Hsns
vote which has rcsrsncs 10 the transport OF the
army mot ss eih bs found 10 br cos.idSot'y ss1sced
bat me Mok kAo' 10 th1t is sdal ayrUayds sf
f42 600 for TIE pcy~q % le'sorts rcs kacs iatsiy
ivsn ne A~sTcon cx7edt0n believe. then that
may truly state that when that G42,OOo is paid ths
whole expenditure for that expedition will be sompets
10 far the Admiralty 10 concerned There In upon
soma other votes considerable incresse-or ius,sncs
the for the naval reserve but thss when
that vote The House will be glad 70 10 the in
crease 10 that vote, for t elbows that bringing
gradually together most valuable rcservA Hsar besr)
turn 10 our irou cssed shpst VIII bs intersstps
that should give some Information 70 their progress
some honorable gsntensn asked what the cost OF
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