Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1862-08-22
nuusi: OF REPRESENTATIVES.

The Journal Of Yesterdays proceedings
cas 1ca'., and after correction approved.
The question first in order was the con-
alteration Of the Motionso suspend the rules
to permit the resolution Of Alr. fooTE, Of
Tennessee, requiring q majority OF the House,
by yeas anu nays to resolve the House into
Secret session.
The rules were MT zu.p.nh,.l.
The State were ordered to he called i'll
alphabetical order ior Lie Offering 6I resGln
tons, &c.
Mr.. CiillrG., OF Ala, offered a rrs'tlhti"n
Tor amending tine riiIrS Ill Ih: subject Of &c
cTct sessions, e1 thai when member shall
propoae ami st,ta it rs. in.his opinion: adyisa-
BILE IT, hGd n secret session, Inc :ote shall
be taken on the melton without debatr, AMI
majorily shall decide for or against closing,
thr .nnrs:. lie moved to refer 10 thu COM
mitten on Rules.
alr. Foorr, hy consent. oI;eral another pro
position Oh the same subject, drafted, he said,
ny thu Speaker, aud hoped Mr.. Crr TOT would
ACCEPT IL.
| III was quite similar IL Mr. c's. PROPOSE
ton, except that it required the vote OH gong
into ;ccret session to be By yeas and nays.J
Mr.. UnILros said he could not agree to the
in1::nrablc demand for the yeas and nays toT
whi:. il provided.
Mr. Jvsss, nf Tennessee, CONQUERED III the
Objection. II, maintained that 1t vas unnr-
ressary to stiPulatc anything upon the subject
| BY the Consultation, one fifth Of tie Inrrn-
bars may call Tor the yeas and nays IN any
question.
4 message il wriliGr waa h1is received
IRON the President.
The Su.aGeT, III srr!v:T.T ~ n reference SAID
| that the Constitution conferred tn" right upon
oue-ri;th to demand the yeas ard mas; hat
that Congress might extend the privilege In
smaller number.
Mr.. CnllToH accepted the amendment CT
substitute vi Mr.. FoorE, with tha purpose OF
mu"ing its amendment, BY striking out the
portion commanding tho yeas and NAYS to be
taken in I'll Eases. lie moved a suapen-
ai5I Of the riIrl i1r III immediate n6uGidara-
| lion,
The r.,i;on y an agreed Il" yrar 81 nays;
| II.
! Nh. L. tirn moved the SmcriIncmt he had
indicated, and it was agreed to. The pro-
passed rule hs amended, provides mat if
member shall move secret session, tie
molten shall b. voted upon in open ,rs-
sion without debate. Il rejected, it shall
! no. lie renewed iii the the GarET stare ri the
! pending proceedings
| Mr.. JnHE, oil lrn,rr:.sre, objected t" the
! Proposed rnle on the ground that the vote
which il provides forces momberS t" aot III
! the dark. Tbs !doycr card NOT state tho
reasons inr his request, for that gould defeat
! its ver- Object. Under the present rule when
| It u.ruhar informs the Innsr that he has
matters TO communicates which required &c;
cresy, ahc Iial l.. cleared, an.l an explanation
| male. The vote is then taken, and If the
| House disagrces with the mer,ra5 ~ IL the
| necessity nf secret s5G5iun, the doors arr
| flung oprn Under The prcsrnt rule there
! fore. the fioI1r aGts mte!lignfLly, under the
pror,osetI rr!a III the dark, lie Mr.. j.; had 10
Jartiality i'r EsGret sacs'nns-onls favored
them whcn necrstarJ Thai thry are sCin"-
times necassuUJ-, his colleague ilr. l""T5
| himself uimL!ci on Yesterday.
tlr Foorr, of Tennessee. sad l!.r gaDiIc-
| man. position. though not his Intention,
tended to resolTo the inusn into ""rret 20
| litical tOuclavc,
The doors once closed, the lioisr had never
hut IN 1ncc instance opened them j he clos
ing oi the doors Away drove of the audience
and alan the reporters, " no never came back
sgain. The House need not vote gndrantly.
| The author OF mnrion for secret s"S2l"D.
could, Ly grnGra trrii,s. sufficiently show its
Importance.
Mr. GS.I, 81 Texas. offered { substitute:
with some explanatory remarks. He after
wards Withdrew il. finding that Mr.. CIii!T0%
proposition met his vic"s.
Mr.. Lyons, Of Virginia. preferred Ihc pre-
sent rule The ohjc:t Of secret SESSIONS Fas
not t. keep information rom orr own people,
but to keep Il rom the enemy. The was nt
the utmost rnportanc. in many instance;
and no fear Of losing the favor OF the people
shGuld cause him 10 betTay them, or IL :l'nik
his duty AMI responsibility.
Mr. Foorr replied Mt considerable iength,l III
advocacy of free debate and open sra1"n"s
and the discussions in the press. He referred to
English preccdcnts and English authorities to
prove the practice and the importance 81 open
| parliamentary deliberations; and GiiGird from
| Jefferson the opinion that free press waS
better than written constitution: also, from!
Niapoleon, that a good historian was the hest
Judge Of military operations.
Mr.. pERxrr5s. Of L.. sad the effect Of thu
pr"poacd rule wnuld i'r T" prevent :,tate-
in1nt Of The object for which :;G.Tet SrsiIdI
might be desired. sir. FDnTE was mistaken
in his citations from English autho rities~not
in his facts but III his differences. LII the
British House If Commons no vote is ever
taken except in secret. There is usage but
j.I Mia Tor publishing the vote afterwards
80 English subject ,aTi enter the Parliament
walls excapr lay apccial ii'rrG:'. The hsIl can
! ha cleared 1t nIE time IN the hrfnami ~ one
| member.
10 public body On the lace of the globe had
provided FOR such publicity RS rnr t5Itudc-
rate Congress. In the House Of the Repre-
aentnLiyas Of hr old government, ono member
| could like the House irr secret session.
Mr.. T. SAID that the real complaint was not
against the rule bit IFS GdaSa Ii the House
had been Il secret concla-e. it was not the
fault cf the rnle, bar of the House. After Mi
! the people Of the country were lar less coiI-
cerncd to know wl.at We SG:' tr,n rhat :Te
| da.
The quasticn xaa thrn taken hy yea7 ind
nays as follows:
/ YEAs- MrsEr= E3rGcC ;saIi''r. ,sLe A.r Eat.
ION Bell Eo;aer. B1rEe. EnrkInJEe. Nrijr"t- LILY NJ
! ErIcf Chan6lisa Chiffon. Chr;a1hn Clark. Clopt0n,
Collier, Cook. Crockett CuriE i.urE DaTgau DaTids1n
DUNE Elliott Fnr7ov 'o1lt Foster. esther, 'ar1r"!i.
t;nrdc Graham. uray. Himly Hilton hodge hoic"rabf
Hcit inutier LYON g: Alabama, Marshall Mel aE.
| McRae. Mepuss, Miles Munner!yGn Fusi, Read. Rus
sell. Se::loH, Singleton smith, Of Alabama, smith Of
Eorth Carolina, Strickland Veal, Wslcn, Virgin; 81!
Georgia aud Wright, ri Te:n.-S,
| SlTs-Nessrs Cour"v, Ewing, HaI1is- HGis-eli i;e-
bert Johnson Jones. keanan. Of 'is"rs!a, ewir, IL:
ons Of Virginia. ~ .-i:aE, Fsrhina hswS SF*aiin aud
| THpre-i5.
Tie Speaker laid before the House Gill
Tunicat,on from the Secretary al toe Urea
surY. Referee: 10 tic Committee Of Way;
and Mems, and ordered To be printed.
| Or notion Of Mr.. Jones ct Tennessee, the
! IIousc resolved into Committee Of the hole
upon the Presidents racssagc-Slr. CURRY, OF
Alabama, in the Chair.
Mr.. JOKES offered a resolution referring the
different portions Of the message and docu-
ments to the appropriate Cou::.;ff1l2cs.
Alr. FooTE moved TO aCic:.i by lnstructnA