The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1862-08-05

ARRIVAL OF THE AUSTRALASIAl
IMPORTANT DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT
ON INTERVENTION.

IMPORTANT DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT
ON INTERVENTION.
Mr.. LINDsAr's MOTION oUAsHED By LORI
PALMERsTON.
The Cunard steamship Austrsiasiau, which l.f
Liverpool on the 10Th Of July, and Queenstown on
the 10th, arrived ct New York on the morning o
the 30th. Her news 10 three days later than previ
GUS advces.
DEBATE IN TIE HOUSE or COMMONS ON ISTEk
vENTION.
In the House Of Commons, on the 18th of July
Mr.. Clay made an appeal to Mr.. Lindsay to post.
spone his motion with respect to mediation In the
civil w8r In America. At any time It would be a
question that should be cautiously dealt WITH 1Ni
especially Dhea there Of The total des6,
Of the Federal ormy
Mr.. j. Ewart cordially seconded the appeal.
Mr.. Lindsay said that he had so often postponed
his motion that at this late period Of the session. he
did not think that he should be doing his duty if he
deferred 1t any longer. He then moved the follow.
ing resolution:
.That in the opinion Of this House the States
which have seeded from the Union Of the republic
of the United States have long maintained them
selves under Il separate and established Govern
nation and ability to support their independence,
that the propriety of offering mediation with a
view OF terminating hostilties between the cou.
tending partes is worthy OF the serious and mnle-
diate attention of her Majesty's Government"
He believed that tho English public would ex-
pect that their representatives should not separate
without expressing an opinion this very serious
question. He Unclaimed any idea Of giving efYence
to the people of the Northern States. II what was
reported was true, their feeling towards England
could not be made But he believed the press
did not represent the real opinion of the Americans
He traced the causes Of the Secession movement
which he attributed o'severe and unjust taxation,
owing to the selfish policy Of the North and con-
tended that the first Southern States which seeded
sent Commissioners to negotiate peaccable separa.
tion, but that the Lincoln Government put them off,
and was preparing secret expedition which, as y
matter Of selfdefence compelled the seizure Of Fort
Sumter. He then reviewed the progress of the war;
which must confirm every one in the opinion that
the restoration Of the Union utterly impossible
rors OF the war; and urged that for the sake Of hu
nanity they should be arrested and that both poll.
ticaly and commercially separation Of the Union
would be for the benefit OF this country.
MIR. LINDSAY REBUKED.
Mr.. Taylor considered the course taken by tho
honorable member for Sunderland to be ill-judged,
nopportune and calculated incre ase the feelinss
of bitterness and irritation which already prevailed
i'll the Northern States towards Great Britain He
complained that the sympathy of the English pub
lie had been enlisted by the press in favor of the
Confederate States, altogether ignoring the cause
stitutons The North, it was not to be denied, had
recently met with considerable reverses bat in his
opinion, it was impossible, and contrary to all ex
perience OF the past, that twenty millions Of peo
Pile could be successfully resisted by five millions
The one was superior in every material resource,
whilst the latter was epcumbered with q seryile
population OF four millions He implored the House
TO abstain from giving its assent to the resolution
vyh fha 10 41o thar ar1n hod
invited n to pass.
LORD A. VANE TEMPEST SUPPORTS MR.. LINDSAY.
Lord a. Vane Tempest supported tho motion OF
Mr. Lindsay He considered that the restoration of
the Union was impossible but if it was it would
confirm slavery, which separation would a,nelio.
rate for the chief m ediment to it the fanati.
cism of the Northern abolitionists. He believed
that the universal spirit of liberty which pervaded
tho Southern States would enable them repel all
the efforts of the North to subdue them and ex-
pressed his astouishment that those who professed
to abhOr slavery could desire to five millions OF
people reduced to IL subsection which they detested
and woSld perish before they submitted TO-
After all our neutrality the Northern States hated
uE more bitterly than ever and il was our duty and
interest, on the grounds OF humanity, to cultivate
the alliance Of the South. 1t had always been the
policy OF this country to recognize the de facso
Government. We had recognized the ri2i,ts OF all
nations to remodel their internal institutions We
had done SO in the of the South American colo
nies OF Spain, OF Greece and other countries, and
we were bound by every consideration to treat in
the manner and recognize the Southern States
of America.
MR.. FORSTER DEFENDS THE U. s. GOVERNMENT.
Mr. w. T. Forster said the noble Lord had asked
him variety of questions az 10 what the Northern
Governmsnt would, could, might, should do in
certain contingencies. He begged to assure the
noble Lord and the House that he did not stand
here as the advocate and mouthpieee Of tho North
crn Government. He looked at the question purely
from an English point of view. No man more
deeply deplored than himself the evils caused by
the war, both here end in America, and no prepos.
session in favor of either party would prevent him
from supporting any feasible mode OF putting an
end to them. He believed however, that the mo-
ton Of the honorable member from Sunderland, so
far from staying tho war, would rather aggravate
and prolong it, and possibly drag into it and he
earnestly trusted that We would persevere in the
principle and policy Of entire non.intervention-
(Hear, hear)
Were we in the position Of the Federals- take the
case Of the war in lndls-if an offer of mediation
had been made, accompanied by a fhleat-if France
had stood forward and said, this contest can end
only III sepayaton-sliould We not have considered
il insult, and, instead of bringing us TO peace,
would 1t not much more likely have tended to ag-
gravate the war; If soaated this to be pros
ecmted BY the men If The North niM greater fury
could go to soork more tnSeaiousiyt0 attain
end
Again, if any disturbance arose in Ireiand-if
contest were going on there, and If another power
stepped in, saying TO US, Let lrishmen alone, and
let them govern themselves" should we be pre-
pared to submit to dictation in such Il matter9 It
might be said that this war SO suicidal. SO
foolish, wicked, that we must simply consider
how to put stop to it. But this was not the
opinion of the vast majority of the twenty mil
lions OF the North, and it would not be our
opinion il we were in the same position. The
courage and endurance of the South were be.
yond oil praise bnt lot threaten them with
foreign interference aud the result would be the
same.
On the other hand If we let them alone 1t was
possible the parties might themselves find cut that
they had undertaken task too hard for them
(Hear, bear) President Lincoln had called for
three hundred thousand more troops He could
not help thinking there WAS little more difficulty
in getting these three hundred Thousand than there
was before. (Hear, hear The sick aud wounded
men going home were not good recruiting ser
geants but ii we wished 20 find President Lincoln
his three hundred thousand men. we had only to
send out by the next mail the statement that Eng
land in concert with other powers, threatened in.
reference if she did not put q stop to the war;
(Hear. hear) Some went still further, and were
ready to assume the character mentioned by the
noble Lord at the end of his speech--Of peace
makerS-rather a curious Interpretation OF the Ian
guage Of Scripture BLESSED are the peacemak.
ers"-who do not stand aloof from the contest
But there might be those who would say, bet.
ter a war with America than continuance OF the
present state OF things Now, surely, II We had nc
cAscs belli against America, where would be the
justification Of our going to war with herf Were
pened to be in disaster on account of what was oc
curring in that countryf Not only would such Z
war be wicked and unjust but foolish to the great
est possible degree. Ii was said that our populs
ton was starving, and he believed that the cotton
famine at this moment was likely to get worsc.