The New York herald., 1862-02-27

~ snem TO enter on such system OF legislation
as mas been proposed 10 the Senate for the last
few days-f we 10 be permitted say who gave
greatest Aid and comfort 10 JEFF Davis his rebeous
bands, whether II the with arms in his hands
or the Senator in his place advocates proposi
tons MS these-aowing be the judge would say
tne senator gave him the greatest aid and comfort.
Mr WnKINsoN, (rep) of Mnn.-The telegraph
nounces that Governor Harris OF proposes
cal the legislature together to allow them TO repeal the
should send General Pillow here Senator would the
Senator from virginia vote TO admit himf
hr CARflLE-Tho Senator from Wisconsin (Afr. HOwe)
mas wen answered that question. II she sends Pillow
mere we viii try and hang him traitor before he
could be allowed TO present his credentials
Mr. WIklNsoN-Ihat does not fwer my question
MI CAMILLE cannot conceive that such a propc ston
will ever be presented to the Senate
and gentlemen have not, and cannot by any just argu
mont, support propositions hore which violate all
iGeas. rot only Of honesty, but of sense. II
tnat does nt answer the question confess am not Ca
pauie o answering. II the gentleman will sit here and
Iut questions and suppose which arise
he must try and extend his inquiries little further and
answer lhem for himself. Now, sir. what Is loyayY
Tho Senator + ON Ma sachusetts-f0r when | entertain
ieoih gs OF great Kindness, pescnaly but from whom
ener pltlc''i'y oto cdto-has informed us what his
'pninn Is; b T. sir, have now leore republican
aper, published IN New Jersey, and have fourteen
others from the Northern States charging, and
sw rn as juror, might proving, dsloyaty that
senator not only for Lis utteancos and seniinen but
his acts and one Of the acts cited is the proposition
he gravey submitted the Senate the other day. to blot
ont Of existence e!e Of the states Of this Union But
s the Test Of 10y ally presc bed by the constuton
am The test OF fidelity is the oath to support the cons
tuoh ana tho constitution having fixed the text and
ade th7t the standard, maina that the Senate has
no power to go beyond it, though have carefully
consider aud read that instr mnt since tho Senator
from Massachusetts, asserted that loyalty OF the
qualifications OF senator provided by the constu
Lon, cannot lnd IT. Yhore is the requirement. to take
the oath which tho founders OF this Union believed
the test cf loyalty and fidelity when taken pre-
clndes tho Senate from any further inquiry or in
yestigation as TO the fact. The senator from
fenIsy ylvania (Mr. Wimot) Says that disoyalty Is
uniaithfulness TO the government and the consti-
tuition But, sir, who TO Judge OF the una hfulncss
4 IL
Of party feeling. Tho party of that Senator may have
seen in the actcs Of the party with which have acted
discovered In the actions OF that Senator in days
by, what, in my opinion, was unfaithfuness the
here 70 declare that satos Of this Union sh IN hold
subordtnate TO tho pleasure Of the their right
upon this floor No sach provision and
such law was ever, and venture TO would
be- put In any constitution adopted by ha wso good
patriotic mon who formed preseat constitution We
fHng all that is best to preserve the constitution
ttc country and the rights Of the stcs and the rights
NJ. SLRuAN, (op) OF Ohio said the question was not
oe Of disloyaly but whether Mr. Starke should be
p and whether single Senator cou prevent his being
swo In by Tdyte testimony At the expiration Of this
Congress. he, with only thirty othcr members Of the
senate, was left. and II this ru's prevail would
aad such rule would overthrow the government. The
constitution provides that the Senator shall take the
OATH but IL does not provide when or where lie might
take the oath anywhere. He inclined TO think
from tile evidence that Mr. Starke disloyal yet he
would not refuse Oregon q representation II Genera
Pillow should be sent here would expe him before
could tako his seat. He cited various England
where persons were expelled for offences comited long
before.
Mr.. TKumrIL thought tho Senator from Ohio stated
some very extraordinary propositions That the oath
could be administered anywhere and By any body that
We could cxpe person before he took the oath AMI
members and the Senator from Virginia shocked
that the majority exclude perSCn. Why thirty
five quorum, and twenty -four two thirds, and there
fore twenyour can expc any member That is the law
now must not be assumed that The Senate from
nero caprice Ii they do that thcn good
Tor nothing He contended that the senate had perfect
right to judge Of the qualifications Of members. Ie said
thcre had been numerous precodens In the casc-the
broad seal case In New Jersey and others.
Mr.. SHEaxAx said that was universally considered an
outrage.
Ar. TnrmrIL continued. He contendsd that the
senate had right 10 exclude, and was adding
qualification.
Mr.. DIXON ep) Of Conn, said there was certain evil
dencs against his loyalty. To that the gentleman has
nes uade denial. He simply said ho Mas viii ng 70
take the oath. Wen, that was merely saying that he
would take the office. He know difference between
lion, and presented themselves with claims soat
here.
Mr.. HARRls (erp.) Of New York, spoke al length con-
tending that the constitution settled the rights q States
aid Of the senats stated the qualifications Of Sci aors,
and tho Senate has no power 70 behind the consttu
ton. and the questions rights and powers OF Suites
thought there wide definition ~ disloy Atty.
The adavits were very unsatis acory and susr cons
not evidence. Yet the senate Was asked " deny
admittsncc " sovereign state ON such c, ilence.
Adjourned.