New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-03-28
United States senate-Extra Session.

20 communicate TO the Senate the spatches Of Major
Robert Anderson 10 the War Department during the
time be has been in command at Fort Sumter. On
examination 81 tie orre.pondence thus called for
have with the highest respect for the Senate TO
the conclusion that at the present moment the pubca
ton Of 1t would be inexpedieIt 1865,
Hashra0sor March g. 1861.
Mr.. BRECKENRIDGE moved to take up the reso-
luton introduced by him yesterday, advising the with
drawa Of the Federal troops from the seeded States
lie did not Intend making any remarks, ~ he had al.
ready expressed bis views that subject and desired
the vote bis motion TO be regardedas teri question:
Mr.. FESSENDEN supposed there would be no OBJ
lection to that but reminded the Senator that no quo
WAS present.
On motion of Mr. HALE, the Senate went into Tx
ecutiye Session. -
When the doors were opened Mr.. BRECKIN-
RIDGE again moved TO take up his resolution saving
If the motion should prevail be would accept MI Shug
mans substitute which also advises that the Presi-
dent fohear from attempting TO collect the revenue IN
the Confederate States III the Senate were not Will
ing TO express opinion be took il for granted that
the vote would be against taking up the resolution,
and If they intended expressing an opinion De tOOk
it for granted that the vote would be IN the native
hence he asked for the Yeas and Nays, and that the
taking up of the resolution might be considered test
question.
ton but he thought that Mr.. Clingman amendment,
which Mr. Breckinridg raid he would accept, went
too far. He did not know what night the Senate han
express their opinion TO the President a. to tie col
lection of the
Mr.. BRECKENRIDGE said II bis resolution be
taken up would be for the Senate decide whether
they would accept Mr.. Clipgmans substitute.
Mr. WADE rep, Ohio hoped that the resolution
would be taken up in order TO have square vote on
It, He was ready give his at any time. lie trusted
that they would indicate what the President VIII
do bu what they think he ought TODD. lie did not pro-
Tess TO know what the Presidents policy viii be, but
he profrssed TO know what 1t ougit to be.
Mir rpsu said.
Ohio tWadel had not disappointed him. He bad
always found that Senator an honest n-hearted and
frank man. but the point he made WAS this that tue
President, by the ConstilutiO was the COMMANDMENT
Chief Of the Army and Nayv and he therefore, by
his own voltiOn, Issue such orders he may deem
DeCessary ana may be required But as 10 the colec-
tion OF the revenue he deemed it proportion the senate
for hiu self OF the SenatOrs TO advise Inn III
matters Which rect in him by law.
Dir. CLINGMAN Dem, n. c. was In favor OF The
or gnal resolution, but he wanted 10 20 further lie
would not 8sk the SeuatOr from Kentucky 10 accept
his substitute If IL would weaken the resolution. lie
wished however lie sdbs ue 10 be adopted, because
ne believed the President under the existing lave has
no power TO collect the revenue In the Confederate
States; hence, lie should abstain from the attempt.
Entertain thin opinion he was ready 10 express IT,
He wirbed TO avid collision.
MIR. RICE said for the reasons slready stated the
Senate travelling far out OF their way 10 advise
the Precedent He a-ked Mr. Brectinrijge whether hi'
resolution exter ded 10 hey Neet ana the IOrtuga-
Shoals; If 70, he would never withdraw the troops
from ,nose posts.
Mr.. BRECKINRIDGF replied that the resolution
advises, under existing circumstances the withdrawal
Of the Federal troops from the limits O the Conied-
crate States. lie supposed that the resolution en-
braoed those points because they within the
limits OF the STATE of Florida. IT, however, any Sen
aior choose to move au amendment 10 eX,lude those
POINTS from The operation OF the rcsoluion would be
a matter Of grave aud resp ottul consideration. He
did not consider il essential 10 the public leare that
H. troops sLOnlf b. withdrawn from Key West aud
Tortugss and rather than Hazard the defeat Of tie
resolution, lie would be Wiling 10 sy thai these
$40 ID be OK ludcd from the resolution. II seemed 10
him hat he must rid ut he disiktd Ia do because
he still entertained hope Of reunion Of all the
States. II theIe should ultimately or unfoFtunAtel.
b.. a permanent ~ aratiou AL the troops mu bc
withdrawn from al the points held by the Fed.
eral Government within the limits Of the Confederate
Stale SIC t roa f a al rs s sc vii ' o. Hf
on the principles Of the old Con -ttutOn. II this
should not occur, he wuad b. unWIlug Ia toc There
places retained, the principle that Great Britain
holds Gibraltar, and plares IN other parts oil ih'
world, me-rly strategic military POintt.
Mr.. RICE-Ibe Senator having answered his ques-
ion be said he would ike 20 know whetrer Il war IT,
order to move amendment excluding hey West and
Iortugas.
Tie CHAIR said that TIE amendment was not IN
order the resolution not yet before tie Senate
MIR RICE remarked that If the seeded State wrnu
determined t. remain out Of he Union be ~H III
favor Of their going in peace. lie would go further
lie would give item their limits. lie ~ould give
them ANYTHING reasonable for the sake Of PEACE hat
they are not III possession OF hey West and TouGgn-.
snd never will be- There two poiuis ARE needed Tor
u.s. and net for them. Other portions OF the county
have interest liz tbem AID ESPECIALLY tie commerce
belonging to the NORTH which wiz never yield these
points. He would not give them up under any
circumstances.
Mir. CLARK uFep., n, Ii hoped that The resolution
would not be aiken up. They were approaching thr
close Of lie sesson a. il the resolution taken up
would be follow ID by anendnchts ard debate might
be opened and 10 one could tell when It would stop
Dir. SIMMONS Rep, X. J.. said tbal 1t %Is not
proper for them TO stay Eeie ana debate Wien AL
desirous TO 20 home He would not desire vote TO he
taken on the resolution without saying few words
From what had been uttered 10y hessis Douglas and
BreckinIidge the country were saiirhed what thelf
policy would have been had they succeeded
Mr. TEN EYCK rep, n. j. opposed taxing up the
resolution. lie did nos proes to be very profound III
matters of law but he wanted TO c0nhne himself l"
questions Of Constitutional daty. lie had seen no
Iroyi.ion wbich justified the senate or gave them tht
iiah to adv-e tie President on this subject lie war
little old fashioned IN Lis noioIs aud hence Dc sred
10 keep the several departments distinct lie was not
aware that II wab eir duty, by Law or precedent 10
volnnte4r their advice 10 the President lie was MOI
disposed to proiier this advice, because IT was none
OF biz business. ..
70 saw tina; In voting to take up the resolution be 0d
not regard hrnscli 10 committed one way or Tie onsI
on It's passage
Mr.. DOUGLAS Dem, ILL., would vote to take NJ
the resolution with the view of offering amendment
% bring :. Aftbin De s0pe it ought to take. he
thought that il would be wise for the PIe.iiQt 70
withdraw the troops nom -F6ft ITcHvps,
as he understood they viii tie, or have been withdrawn
from Fort Sumter. They were the only forts in The
Confederate States now occupied by the Government
Al AIm.goa.ery. Ilese were the only places which
could teid 10 coliiGi but lte Ie,9lption goes fur
Their II advised tic President 10 withdraw the troops
from all points in the Confederate States. TIE Con
fderae Staee being re evolutionary Government, can
claim only what they occupy He wac willing, under
sYi,po crcumstapoes that Forts Sumter ana IickeDs
L',ld r ,dvsr M TIE ycte local and neither OF