Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-06

nv friend, the Chairman Of the Committee Of
Twenty-one, (N1r. Il. Y. CoSaAn,) Is abe 70
make an objection, perhaps, that IS SOUND ana
that would hold good with the body. But some
BODY else, not as well informed aS my friend,
might get The floor and he is then entitled to
make the objection. Even though the otJcc'
ton be not O. sound one he speaks his ten
minutes; but my friend, the Chairman Oh the
| Committee. would be cut oil. l. that the Ill
depreciation
The CuA1RuAS-There are two resolutions.
The first is that the Committee shall at once
proceed to vote upon the propositions before IT,
giving five minutes to the member ollerlhS
any amendment, end the same time to any
member opposing it for explanation
Mr.. WlsE-That is not the resolution 10
! which refer. aek the Clerk to read another
resolution which was adopted.
The CuA,gMaN-The resolution adopted ii
| the SAME time,
| Mr.. WIsE-I don't know, sir-they got in
there some way or other ard want 70 sec
whether | ain in 4 vice or not.
The Clerk read the second resolution a. fol-
lows:
"That hereafter no nIcTnber in the Commit
! ic. of the Whole shall be allowed 10 speak
more than once upon the same propositions.
Mr.. WIsE-Ihere is still another resolution
| ar the Clerk informed ME wrong this morning
Here is the resolution to which desire to
call attention.:
THAT on Thursday, the +tt day OF April
next, Mt Il o'clock noon, all debate in the
| Committee Of the Whole upon the reports from
The Committee on Federal Relations, shnl
crrninate. and the committee shall at once pro.
coed to vote upon the propositions before It,
giving ten minutes to the member offering any
amendment and the SAME time to one member
opposing it, for explanation, and ten minutes
for replication"
Am to understand that IL giving ten min
! utes to each member, or to only one member
of the Convention? Is he that happens to get
the floor the only one who is to be allowed to
make any objection:
The CHA1RMAN-That seems to he the letter
Of the resolution, and its probable spirit
Mr.. WIsE-It is very easy il that be tho in
depreciation of the resolution, for member
making a proposition to get some friend to
make groundless objection in order TO favor
it. Two members may cunspire together and
kill of all objections, under this interpretation.
want this exclusion, not only Of debate, but
of objection, to be understood by the people OF
the State.
Mr.. r. Y. CoSRAD-I hope may be allowed
TO say one word upon this question, az offered
the resolution. This resolution, sir, was
adopted by vote CT the friends Of tho report
uf the Committee The gentleman from Prin-
CESS Anne objected to the limitation Of ten
minutes OF five minutes PERHAPS. which was
then made, and, lis understood him, made al
appeal 10 the Convention. and to myself, that
! if the time was increased 10 fifteen minutes for
the party proposing amendments to the report,
| he would deem it sufficient.
Mr. WIsE-No. sir.
Mr.. CoSRAD-I ST. understood him, anil,
yielding 10 bis appeal, the resolution was
altered by general consent, so as to give to the
member proposing to amend the report Of the
| Committee, instead OF five nr ten minutes.
actually twenty minutes, with the additional
advantage of dividing that time into two ten
minu,es-lcn minutes to sustain the PROPOSE
ton, ana ten minutes for replication.
Mr.. WIsE-l want 10 correct the gentleman
I claimed in point oi time what was sufficient,
in order to state either the proposition or the OBJ
rclion to the proposition. | said that in many
instances fifteen minutes and three times &C.
| teen, would not be sufficient It was in that CON-
ncctnn that Ispokc Ct fifteen minutes; but al.
! firm to the gentleman. that Mt the time was
nakng the objection thought that the word
zone" was the word each" in that resolution.
never looked Mt it until the clerk showed il 10
me this morning. 1t vas not until this morn.
ng that became aware that but one member
was allowed to make All objection. | was
| under the impression that ten minutes was
given TO each OF the members who might
choose to object TO proposition.
| Mr.. COHRAD Il will state, sir, that the un.
derstarding Of the gentleman from Princess
| Anne, (Mr WIsE,D is not at al material to the
pn;n, to which desire 10 cal the attention Of
the Committee. As stated, sir, the friends Of
this report were the ones who established this
rule by th.ir vote and yet we find now that
the gentleman from Princess Anne rises with
| view Of opening this debate, and ina.
king it sn iaterminhbe debate, by per-
uniting every member of the Convention to
consume ten minutes, and he is doing that on
the ground that he is asserting the rights Of
the friends Of the report. 1t is fair TO pre-.
sumc that all propositions for amendment are to
come from the gentlcman'S side, and all expla-
nations would be continei to the friends Of the
report.
Mr. W,sr-W!l the gentleman allow mc 10
interrupt MIN?
Mr. CoSRAD-i will conclude immediate! y
| GIN explaining my views. The gentlemGb
says, that when proposition OF amendment
is made, an objection may be made to thai
amendment, and that this objection may not be
sound OF good one, whilst some other men,
her may have better objection and he argues
that this is IN advantage to the friends of the
report, because the best objections may not DO
presented to the Convention.
Mr. WlsE-Wil the gentleman permit me
for moment?
Mr.. CoSRAD-I will conclude in II minute Or
two. ! was about to say, lhat trrlst The gen
tleuIan will allow the friends Of this report TO
maintain their own rights. They have v"lun.
tarily, with view OF bringing this Convention
to close, abandoned this right Of debate, even
upon objections to amendments; and under.
stand they are willing to retain the position
that they have voluntarily assumed. will
agree not TO open ny mouth again III this Con-
yrntion, If gentlemen will allo" US TO 60 on
and finish our business.
Mr.. Wiss-The gentleman has not stated
my position, and let Inc say TINT he does not
seem to appreciate his own position. BY what
authority is it that the gentleman claims that
all who adopted this resolution are tic friends
of this report? When he undertakes to say
before vote is taken upon the report who ale
its friends or its foes, docs he intimate to us
that we are to be forced into submission by
another bndy-a body That is King, it may b.;
but that is not king over m:--a caucus that is
held outside Of this body: lie nav understand
who arc the friends OF this report, but don't
understand who arr its friends or who IRE is
opponents until vote IS taken here
There is constituted hody 10 ascertain who
are the friends nl,G wi;p the opponents ui
this report Bat, granting that before . vote
is taken he docs know to certainty, aye, sir,
to caucus certainty, who are fricGds Of the
report, and grant it that the friends Of the re
port have right to take care Of themselves,
the question Is have right to take care Of
the minority, also, and 10 maintain for them
the righ; Of ohection7 ain not undertaking
To take care Of the friends ri the report, for |
1 ,n,. dat thry ril inke clrn NOT of fheul. |