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The Athens post. [volume] (Athens, Tenn.) 1848-1917, 1861-03-01


TIE PEACE CoxGREss.-The intelligent
Washington correspondent of the Phila-
delphia American (Republican) says that
Mr.. Guthrie's plan is not acceptable, in
many respects, to the Republicans in that
body or in Congress, as will be disclosed
whenever a test vote is reached. The
members of the committee on behalf of
the Republican party, says the cores
pendent are not, strictly speaking, rep
resentative men, and hence are more dis
posed to concession or compromise than
their political friends are prepared to
sustain. Any recommendation emana-
ting from this Convention, which cannot
be carried through Congress, will do
moro harm than good, and only serve to
intensity the feeling between the two
sections. Thus far the compromising pol
icy has only produced one practical re-
sult-and that is to split the Republicans
into two wings, and to develop an antar-
onism which cannot be easily reconciled.
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entertain brotherly affection and love
Tor one another, for their fellow. citizens
OF the United States ut large, aud parti-
culafly for their brethren who have SER
we'd in the field; and finally, that he
would most grpciousiy be pleased to dis.
pose us all to do justice, to love mercy,
and to hemcan ourselves with that .chari-
ty. humility. and pacific temper Of mind.
which we're the characteristics Of the Di-
vine Author of our blessed religion =
without AN humble imitation OF these
things, we can never hope to be a happy
nation.
have The honor to be, &c.. &C..
GEORGE WASHINGTON.
HIS Excellency, William Green. Esq.
Governor of the State of Rhode Island.'
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Comprising Saddle Trees. of various patterns;
Hog Skins, ranging from $50 to $3.50 per dozen
Padskins; White Wcltng Skins; Enamcled Lcath-
err; Patent Leather Skirting; Enameled Cloth;
Enamcled Canvass and Drilling; Buckles; Rings
Bits; Strrups; Thrcc-Cord Orange aud Yellow
Thread; Saddlers' Silk Plush; Skrting Sad
dlers Tools; best cast steel Anvil Blades; Webbing
Bosses; Saddles Needles; Brass and Silver orna-
ments, &c.
He invites all of his old customers, to call and
see him, at his new and convenient establishment,
and also soicits the trade from any new customers
who arc disposed to try the Knoxville market, for
the purchase Of any goods in his limo.
Prices shall he low, and especial pains win be
taken in the filling of all orders.
LOOKOUT ron THE SIGN OF THE
TT B q P A d L o G X. -&s
March l, lS6l-Iy-640 Knorriiie, Tennessee.
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complete assortment of bibles and Prayer
Books, Presbyterian Confession Of Faith, DR..
Barnes Notes on the Gospels, Haywards Book
Of All Religions, Roberson's Sermons, Hugh
Miller's Works, Religion of Geology (by Hitch
cock.) Durbin's Travels in the East, Neanders
Church uisinry Is Ynls
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Earnass Trimmings.

In great variety, such as Brass and Silver plated
Mountincs, in sets and otherwise: Brass, Silver
plated. Japanncd and Polished Buckles and Rings;
Brass, Silvcr-platcd and Japnnned llames Wood
Hames and Stage Hamcs, russell ard black; Rein
Snaps; Martingale Rings; Roseitcs; Brow-bands;
Bits, Of various styles; Carriage Whips, large
variety; Collars, some very fine, &c.
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Thousands of Cases,

1t not only relieves the child from pain, but
invigoratcs the stomach and bowels, corrccts
acidity, and gives tone and energy to the whole
SYSTEM 1t will almost instantly relieve
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1861-10-10

government. With a h~urieued treasury. every en-
ployee should have f..i labor and compensation.
based upon the principles stated in the drs; part of
THIS letter. Officers aud clerks Of corporations and
merchant 10 a large amount Of labor in pressing
times out Ct business hours 30 ought It be with
government officials and clerks. Their labor and
fare should correspond 10 that u their supporters,
according 70 the various social position q which the
respective parties form "a part. But here there seems
&c have been a mistake, Tor whilst the Income Of the
cIrgi Community has been greatly diminished, and
their taxes more than doubled, thus diminishing the
means even beyond the gIm1DutICn Of prices, the
salaries Of the officials have not been CcrreSpODdlnCly
reduced, but remained as ihey were, or advanced
still higher, thus having the effect IN the former case
II an increased salary, just proportional 10 the
diminished price q the ueces>srleS O: life ; and IN the
latter case. u salaries actually advanced making the
diSyropoTIon sill greater. Thus It $1,000 ClS a
support for a Minister, hut 10y reason Of diminished
prices $4,000 is now a support, then Il Is equivalent
70 an increase OF $1,000 IN the salary, S~upuosiuS
prices 10 nave continued aS they were. Now, in
equity, II the means Of those who sustain the gov
eminent diminish, surely those who by position have
a more vita. interest in IL prosperity in Ill respects,
should bear their part Of the Increased burden. II
il be said that officers cannot live on these diminished
salaries, reply. l know 1t l. easier 10 raise than
10 reduce salaries, 10 increase than 70 diminish
expenses, but they have once lived on less when
things were more expensive than they are now, and
| Will not 50 iWpeacn their patriotism rs 70 admit
that they viii noJ do it voluntarily when the lie
almost, If not quite, of the nation demands It. Be
sides, II Is asking no greater sacrifice Of them than
their supporters are obliged 10 undergo.
l. it not clear 10 all impartial u.inds that the
system Of government service and support, needs
careful reconstruction, if prosperity be the highest
object sought for the nation But | have t~TespaSsel
far beyond my intention upon your columns and the
patience OF your readers. and will only add that no
partjzan feeling has prompted this letter, but the
simple hope that some Of its suggestions might re-
suit IN the public benefit, and if my facts are incor-
rect, or my deductions erroneous. | shall be happy
to have them corrected. and a. l write for the pub
lie, | shall be happy to see these remarks also in
the columns of the PoigHcSiGn, if its geutlemanly
editor thinks proper to give them a place. | again
subscribe myself the nations friend and yours truly,
RETRENCHMENT.
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THE PACIFIC
Commercial Advertiser.
THURSDAY. Globe 10.

1t is with pleasure that We now r enabled to announce to
tn pubic that our relation 70 the Government n director
Of the Government Press will cease in a few day. and prob
ably before the issue Of the next number Of the PoIyHesiGH :
and We have been notified that the Government intends TO
dispose Of its printing Office under tie i2sth Section q the
Civil Code.
The above announcement was made in the
last POiynesiaH, which in n long article claims
the credit of having brought about the change
which is soon TO take place. We Will not enter
into any wrangle regarding the question as to
who has been instrumental in efecting it, sim
ply remarking that the public has a mind of its
own, and viii have It's own opinion on the
subject. We, with quite rs much :" pleasure "
as our neighbor, congratulate the public on the
change, and the administration, that il has had
the moral courage 10 yield IL the well-known
and often expressed sentiment of the public
voice, and take a step in the right direction in
this matter. For nearly six years have we been
engaged in this one-Sided contest with the gov
eminent, not merely for the SIke of contest, but
asking on the ground of principle and right,
that the branch of industry in which We are
engaged might be freed from restraint. If, du-
ring these six years we have successfully held
our own in this unfair competition, we can have
no misgivings about the future, provided the
government press is placed on the same bass with
ours, and learns to pay Its way and support itself
out of nothing but Its honest labOrs.
All that we ask now from the Government is,
that in any bargains of sale or lease which it
may make, it, terms may be open, fair and hon
orable, not in favor of this one or that. We
Will quote here the section of the Civil Code re-
farred to.
Sscr,y -. TIE Minister % the Interior shall have the
Poasr. with ;- approval - ths hing. % sell 1r lease the
Governments Pres. and 40 -. srpursrluces thereto belong
ing, whenever. m his discretion, 70 shall seem Tor tn bes. III
terests 81 tie GUscTuutut-
If the Office Is 10 be sJlI-aud we would here
say that this disposition Is unquestionably the
best for the Government, if a purchaser can be
had-let it he "A clean sale, e terms cash or ap-
proved credit. as the auctioneers say. We do
not wish il. having A. good and As large an Office
as we can well afford. If. however, it Is teaS'a,
let it he done ON fair and equitable terms for
the public, whose property 1t Will still remain.
Let every dollars worth of material and stock IN
it be accounted for, and let those having charge
of it Be held responsible for its safe keeping.
We desire no monopoly, though the government
has often charged us with such motives.
Ii may be desirable and prudent to continue
the PoiyHesiGH, if it becomes an independent
paper. As such, we would like to see 1t con-
tinued-we couldn't do without tive want a
target to IRE at occasionally. and We shall never
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To Observation-Disclosures favors are always
acceptable to Us as they are TO all newspapers; but the
inference should not be drawn from this, that adyer-
tisemeuts are CHARITIES extended to newspapers. We
sell our advertising space as a retailer sells his goods,
at fixed prices, and expect the purchaser or advertiser
will receive the full value Of his purchase. In order
that our charges may be the same To all, rich or poor.
and that all may know the rates, we print them at
the head Of the first page each week, and conform 10
the scale as near as l. practicable. The type by which
the lines are measured j. a@oaparisI type. or the
smallest size used in the paper, which measures
tlrclrf lines 10 an inch in space.
- Hereafter no advert senents will be inserted
unless marked for q specified psri08, and the cost for
that period can easily be found by referring to the
table on the first page. All advertisements. when
sent in, should therefore be 50 marked, either for -
many times, or so nany months, and they will. when
not prepaid, be charged for such period aud no longer,
and when that term expires, they will drop cut
Those wishing 10 renew or reiusert them, should give
US notice. No advertisements should be sent in mark
ed It'll forbid" We adopt this rule both tor the
benefit Of our advertising patrons, who sometimes
complain that their notices appear in the paper longer
than they intended or ordered. and also TO render
systematic aud correct, and less lsborious FOR our
book-keeper.
- As a general thing, UGEts, or advertisements
Of that class, should be inserted not over two or three
times; .Nitr Goods. received or to arrive, not over
one, two or three months; but a Business Card, like
a mans sign, should be permanent and conspicuous.
that is il he expects to succeed in business; if he
doesn't, he had better take down both.
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SAS FRANCISCO MARKEr.

Dates ofthe san francisco Prizes Current to the 10Th Sept.
advise that amer a long interval Of comparative apathy, an i'm
proyetnent. entirely legitimate in it, character, is apparent in
the market Buyers were present from the interior, business
men were IN hne spirits, and timely arrivals Of fresh goods CON-
nandsi prompt attention. The Edi.Or, in the issue Of the 9Th
sept, remarks
Z" Our trade with British Columbia has Sen-ibIy diminished.
Her open ports untranHe-I by tariff restrictions, invite trade
from n~eighboring countries, which To the same extent has been
diverted from us.a ami rendered her in that degree independent
Ct This market The greatly INCREASED importance Of the Colony
since the impetus communicated by the Frazer River excite
meat IN ISIS, h4- gained for il increased attention from the
mother eDautry. whose readiness TO impart from her ample
s;orv=. joins! with al Enlightened free trade policy, has operated
sEd Will cDutinIe to operate to cur Disadvantage With she
northern ports % Mexico, however, Or commerce = increasing,
and bids fair TO eountrrhaIlnce tie loss in the opposite dirrc-
ton"
In articles vhich interest the trader Of the Hawaiian Islands,
we quote
C6syEs-wth armnes.- Manil, Is.e; Costa Kiea, 20 3-lOc
Rio. 2O!c-
MoLIssss ,SD sYRrF-2s bris :. T., at 1870 a 2O.c.
PrLr-i53 bllrs. rx FraHeisco, from Hlo, sold promptly on
arrival At III: 40 lie
RlcE-N9 desirable parreis in market
scGAs-Ynees had ytritei a shade at auction. IS kegs $. l.
a. she; liz Eats do, 50 O1Ici as KEGS and half brts, AT - 50
@ $40 IS 600 mats at s!ci first quality, N small lots. at lie
E1cHASsE-Ju the East, steady u a , pr cent premium
br eight bills, mt much doing. Sterling bills, -! a 20 pence.
Grain bills were coming into market, which would Affect these
rates.
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L,TEsr pArEs received a. All. once.
PORT OF HONOLULU. II. I.
AR q

,et- 5-Am barSentiIe Constitution, Poster. I'm Port Gamble
via LaAaiaa-
Sch Noi.eiki, Nap~a, from Kahuiui and Lahlina.
PaS-eu<eEsJan.- L8uxlil and family.
@Freuch VII ship ueu=rti Tr-te, Lp-s, last from HHo.
10 -p, 100 VII, 1900 bone. Lay 81 AID on, and
sailed again on the 9Th for New Zealand.
sch kliInI, Henry. from KailIa. with 3 Oh cannonS,
. tons eannon-baH-, etc, 90 bales Pulu- Passen-
E.rs-Dr l. II Quick, wif- and 5 children, Theodore
Gtirk-
Sch Henry, nisere. from Hama and Lahaina, with
bids and AVA
sch kamoi. Shepherd, from Lahaiua- Passenger
Hon p n Aiien, Mr. Parker, AMI - natives on
deck.
6-steamer Kilauea, BeErlI, from potts on Kauai, with
&c pkgs moLI--es, etc
sch Jeannettr, KaIama. from Mako, with IS bags
fungus, o hides, and 5 deck passengsrs-
Am VIII ship Reindeer, R1yunr, from the Arctic, l.
months out, 1900 VII. IL whaesJ 5,GJO bone,
season ; 100 -. 1sOO VII. . 500 9Ous, voyage /;
100 -, $500 VII. 5000 bone. on board
Ssh Eam-hamshI ". MorSe, from RalePolepO aud
Lahaipa, with : cUnis wood
Am clipper ship Phantom. IL. J. Sargent, jr. Is days
from SIn francisco. eu route for Shanghai lay
OF anal on. AMI sailed again on the 10Th
IO-Peruvian "a Pe.rUneila, 81 days from Macao 5Or Cal
is0-J0O coolies on Dozri, all well-tO J. T. SPalt-
fIg, Consul Er Peru.
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FROM THE ARCTIC

The clipper chip Rs,Hass-. EayHor. arrived on Tu-slay from
the Arctic D-eau, ~:a the shlrt but comprehensive and We
come report. " FULL The Rsiuassr . one Of tie f-s frs;c'a-s
ships, and Capt RayBor one gf the fw captains, that have al
ways been -ueoe-.fuL Capt Ashley commanded this ship dur
ing her lat voyage. and traS during the three years cruise over
400 barrels Il oil. ami some seventy or.-hty rh1usaut pounds
o. bone. Capt E.yucr has had her JUS twelve months, and
Eas ta.-u during ;-a; time 100 bD.. sperm oil. 800 bp.-. whale
OIL and 200 -. bone. having SLED -hrr f-.L. III, sos seldom
thi. is done nO~-s-day-, that j, is worthy Of -pee.a! H.'e, and
assures u that wiki a captain Of Ii. right stamp ana = ship q
The RICH; class, ShaHHg can still De- successfully prosecuted.
Capt. RsyHor understands hs bl.iu--. aud Knows .Le Arctic
1hales ike 4 ook-h=u his surcss-, aA-4 cauua, be- at;r.-
buiei wholly 20 god ilcs- but L. hard S1r1 aud fitness "r his
service.
W. may soon look for more whaIsrs. In looking over las;
year statistics, ~ ~ that there arrived one whaisr on the
l2.h Of October, 'ir sLsiers On the lath and nine on the 18th.
The f1lDwIug is Capt. Raynors report from the Arctic
Crui-ed in BheTiu- Straits and the Arctic. First par; Of the
season had good weather latter part. from July -. the weather
became thick and bowy, and toward the close the whales
became rather wild. Took the first Loxhsad- May Il, in lat.
Coz - y, long. Isi- SIS W, and thu last on the 10Th Of sept,
Lax 7O@ 90, long. I627 10. saw the most ~Aal.s in lat. 7O7
SO, long I5g7 20, sept. S. Went on the whaling grounds May
l.. aud Iet sept. -. Pound the weather variable on the pas
sage down. Reports no accidents or deaths this season. The
hnoSing Is a list Of vessels spoken anu heard from;
Whales.
July l9-Good Return,
Champion, Worth
Aug. 2-JuIan,
Vineyard, Caswell
6-Braganza,
hohola, Corsen
Victoria, Dauelsberg --..---.--.-.---.cleau
l9-JOhn Rowland,
FLORIDA,
Catherine, Hampstead
Electra Brown
Coral. Slsson-intends 20 winter IN the straits..7
Fanny, BHven, g bowhesds and , grays).....6
Isabella, Tucker
Fahius,
Barnstable, Broxnson.
Thomas DicEa=Du Stewart
Arab, Ah:ns, Gate GrinnelD
Robert Edwards, Wood ..-.-..-..--....1
ocean,
Martina,
Caulaincourt- French)--
Sept. S-Tamerlane, Winslow. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
Montreal,
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DEPARTURES.

J-Seh EeEarIuohi, NaTchant. FIR Koua AMI Rnu-
sch odd Fellow. Candage, for SawiIixii and koloI-
Lsteamer, Kil1uea, BeTill. fr Kauai
s-Scb Manuoka~ai. DAVIS, for wiudwarl ports
s-<-h Hofksiki. Nap-Ia. for IailaiuL and kshului-
Am rizJOsephine, stone, for the GgaH9 Islands, ".;h
supplies, etc
sch Kamoi. Shepherd for Lahalna aud hahului-
sch Kaiuna, Henry for HaO-
s-s-h Henry, Rivierr, for Lahaina and Hama
s--teamer Rilauea, Berrill. for Lahaina- hona, and other
wiadwaTd ports
Sch J.annette, EsIIma. for Mahko. East Maui
sch K.mshsneha ~, More. for Anahol1 and Ma
EuisiH.
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MEMORANDA.

II Am. b~arkentne Constitution. Foster, reporis-LeG Port
Gamble Sept. ? passed Cape F1attery on tie 9Th. On the 9Th,
saw the brig Mary EH~n, bound to Puget sound for a cargo Of
lumber also Iassed several other vessels bound in that direc-
ton. Arrived a; Iahaina Sept. %. Sailed again for Honolulu
on "wednesday, Oct. ., at Q O'Clock p. NJ, and arrived next
morning at Q ocbck-havngm made ;he run from port to port in
Il hours, during which time had hove to OF Diamond Head at
A. VI. Experienced light breezes all the passage to Lahains'
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ASSENGER

FOREIGN.
From VICTORIA. V. L-Messrs Mcintosh, Bailey, McCsuley,
and four Hawaiians-
COASTwIsE.
FROM KAUAI-per Rilauea, Oct. 6-DrW Wood, Mr. Hoffman.
II A Wfd-mann. " II Pea-e. judge Andrews, MIR and Mrs
Poneroy, Rev AIR PTeteseile, { p Newman-9 cabin, and 80
deck passengers
FOR Wrxpw aEp Poars-per Kfauea. Oct. s-Nr Robinson,
Miss Dickinson. " z Green, Rev " 7 Alexander. DR. WickliIe,
II VI Whitney. J z Parker cabin, and about $50 deck pas
seugers
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IMPORTS.

From P0Kr GaMHLF-per Constitution. oct. 1900 fe
dressed lumber. 1J6.ysS u rough do, 1000 pickets, 20 brs -four
/ box plants. l spar, 9 pkgs salmon. = brs sal, do, = packages
contents unspecidedJ > black bars.
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dread an honest rival. Without one. We might
not see the dust on our clothes OF the beams in
our eyes with one. our steel pen will become
polished, the rust on it rubbed off, and we
shall write more clearly perhaps. If the Poly
ncs,qn is continued. it should be entirely free
from government aid or espionage. To pay two
thousand dollars q year from the treasury simply
TO continue it. would be no improvement over
the present system. Let it be entirely free and
dependent only on it, own merit and resources,
As the Commercial i.
Regarding the public printing. our views have
been too often expressed TO need repetition here.
Only let it be thrown open TO fair competition.
We have confidence in His Highness Prince Lot,
that the changes which ne may recommend or
make Will ne only of an honorable and equitable
character. and such as will meet public approval,
and reflect credit ON the administration
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- The last issue Of the government organ
the Director tells Us il i 10 be his lasts
about as sour, snappish and snarling a sheet
as was ever ground out from his grist. Like the
culprit being led 10 the execution block, lie
attempts 70 describe the . pleasure" Of having
ones head guillotiued, and the next column is
filled with railing accusations against us for
trying to help the Minister of Finance out Of the
bog into which he has plunged the government
and people generally, and the Public Press in
particular. In the confused mirage passing
before him, he can't see how 500 0 d year can
be saved in the Department Of the Interior,
(Which has an annual appropriation of $40, 600
after deducting she sum for the police ON Oahu,)
no more than he can see how the same amount
can be saved out of S41 600 annually appro-
priated for the Finance Department.
But it's of no use TO follow our contemporary
along in his doleful means through each column
of the " last official grinding that we shall
have the honor TO listen 10! and we have only
the heart to propose as an humble inscription on
the monument which may be raised over the
tomb Of the Government Press
"REQUIEscAT IN PACE.'
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Vessels Expected from Foreign Ports.
Am clipper sE;p Moonlight, Breck. would leave san Francisco
about Oct /. to touch at Honolulu for freight and psssen-
gers for HonEkong-due about the 18th
Am. clipper bark Comet. IN it'll. viii leave san Francisco about
Oct. l2-due here about the 18th.
British tark Thomas Daniel, sailed from Liverpool on the Goth
June. with an assorted cargo to JaniOn, Green y Co.
The HanoyeTian brig Schwinge, Capt kokemull.r. 100 tons
capacity, left Hamburg May 9Th. with an assorted cargo to
Hackf=ld & Co.-iue N all September.
Haw. schooner Queen. keyte, may be looked for in all October,
from a Southern expedition.
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SILVER PLATED WARE.-J. S. Walker. Makee's
building, up stairs, has for sale, and on show, some
of the richest heavily embossed silver plate coffee and
tea sets, cake baskets, casters and liquor frames, we
have ever seen in this market. The patterns are chaste
and unique, and will suit the greatest r%irtuoso who
can he scared up. Talk of Benevenuto Cellini, it is
all bosh, after looking Mt these articles. The fore
going will be sold by J. H. Cole, Esq, at his auction
room, on Saturday evening next, at I! o'clock, when
no doubt, the beautiful moonligh. will tempt the
ladies to take a walk and call, to see, if not to
purchase. -
PoIsoNED.-Dr. s. p. Ford, we regret to learn, has
been i'll from the absorption Of the virus into his sys-
ten, through a scratch on his hand. at the post NOR
TEN examination of kama, who was killed some three
weeks since at Kawailoa, by Kahalau, in a drunken
frolic. The liquor that made 1.-THE drunk come"
was the fermented juice of the prickly pear. DR..
Ford was confined to his house for some days, but is
now, we are happy to say, so as to be about.