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Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

n Workmsn are busily engaged in remod-
cling the arrangements Of the State-House IN
Richmond, so as to make ample room for the
next Confederate House Of Representatives
The old Senate chamber of the legislature is
to be enlarged by taking in the passage and
the whole Of the Clerks Office. With these
additions, it will be one Of. the faes! halls in
the country, being ample, we'll lighted, and all
its proportions striking and just. 1t win be
occupied by the Confederate States House Of
REPRESENTATIVES..
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-TayvRD ral3w IN the rough. Highest price psil
w Uson delivery al the Eagle Soap works on the
| Randolph road -- 4 ~
aar1TTu We LINZ 80
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Ice ABUNDANT "A dealer in VieksbuTg
nacted over one hundred packages Of ice in
t~iercss and barrels for sDipIaent mp the Mi5sis-
sippf last Saturday. The san says that there
need be no apprehension Of any scarcity OF
ice in Vicksbarg, as one dealer there bag
enough on hand to supply The usual demand
until The middle Of next July,
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that Gen. BraXtOn Bragg will be his successor.
DIXIE.
NOON DISPATCHES.
Fortress Monroe, September I4.-The Con-
~federate steamer Yorktown ran down within
three miles aud opened FIRE on the blockading
squadron.
The Sawyer's gun opened on her and drove
her back.
The Yorktown mounts twelve brOadside and
two pivot guns.
The Confederate steamer Curtis appeared
this morning above Newport News.
A steamer from Norfolk made a reconnoi-
sance.
From these movements an immediate attack
upon Newport News is expected.
WARRINGTON. September 16.-Thres persons
were arrested to-day, suspected Of being
spies.
F. W. Walker, correspondent Of The New
York Express, was dangerously wounded by 3
prisoner who escaped.
Commodore Porter has been assigned to an
important command on the Mississippi river.
The special correspondent Of The New York
Tribune say tbC Potomac hotilia reports new
batteries erected By the ConfedereLes, five
miles below Aqua Creek. Alas, that there IS
a large force az Matthias Point.
He says the Pensacola cannot pass Matthias
Point without a severe fight.
Mcclellan has visited and inspected The
command Of Gen. Banks.
NEw YoBK. September 1G.-The U. S.
steamer Sumter has arrived.
Most OF the African squadron is homeward
bound.
BALTIMORE, September 16.-W. a. Glenn,
%edlt0T or Tue EXCHANGE, Gas oeen arfestet,,
The city is unusually quiet.
ST. JOHNS, September 16.-The Kangaroo
has arrived She brings Queenstown dates to
the 5th. Political news unimpor ant.
England is about to send two more regiments
to Canada.
A railroad accident occurred near London,
BY which thirteen were killed and fifty
wounded.
Cotton-sales Of two days preceding the
sailing Of the steamer, twenty-seven thousand
bales, closing unchanged. CoBsols g "a to
90 rs.
~JxFFERsoN CITY, September 16.-The Sioux
City Brings a report that a force OF 1000 Mis-
sourians attacked Bonneville, and were re-
pulsed With the iCss Of twelve killed and thtr-
Z - ----nIa
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The SUGAR CRoP.-Should the season con-
time propitiouE, remarks an exchange, and no
premature frosts damage the crop, the sugar
production of the South will, in all probability,
amount to five hundred thousand hog'hsads,
which is eighty thousand more than was ever
produced bsfor, two hundred and fifty thou
sand more than the consumption Of the South
ern States, and very little short OF the entire
consumption OF the old Union. Until lincoln
can blockade the favor OF Heaven and the
fruits OF the earth, the South can laugh his
fleets and armies 10 scOrn.
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tnn,r mn AnmY u THE nIVER.

We learn from passengers, who came
down from Columbus by railroad yesterday
that the enemy were getting in close JuKta-
position TO JkFT. THoMPsoN's command VINO
were stationed opposite on tue Missouri shore
He had called upon Gen. POLKfor a reinforce
msnt. which was promptly furnished.
The Federal and Confederate Pickets were
continually firing upon each other all nlgo'
OF the 14th inst, and as our Columbus eorIes
p,ndent Informs Us, twenty Of the Feasrals
have already been captured by our men
and are held in confinement as prisoners oil
war, at that place.
We further learn that Gen. CHEATHAM adj
vaneed upon MayfsId with a considerable
force On saturday. OF this there can be nc
doubt, as we have it from several suthoritatI''
sources. Stirring times may be anticipated II
Western Kentucky during the course OF tn'
prssent week, we think.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

CT The superintendent Of The Wilmington
railroad has presented the Confederate govern
men. With an elegant ambulance car, which
affords accommodations for twenty patients.
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Carr. NJ. W. GLUsKEY.-We wsrs pleased
to see our friend Capt. Clgskey, e the -hrG-
iancEe, in our city yesterday, on a brief visit
upon business OF = private character, Fer
several MONKS past be has been officiating as
Quar- ermaster in Gel. Bates regiment, now In
Virginia. His vocation evidently agrees viii
hin, as we never have seen him look better.
-CcNFEDERATE DIsTRIor CoURT.-The court
recently in session at Knoxville had up for
examination several parties, arrested in East
Tennessee, on a charge OF treason, all Of whom
were discharged, after taking an oath to be
subject TO the laws of Tennessee and the Con-
federste States, except Capt. J. W. ThorHburg
The Register says that after a very lengthy and
full examination OF all the facts in The case,
no witnesses being brought forward on the
part of the defense, bis honor committed the
defendant for trial at Nashville on the fourth
Monday Of October next, and that defendant
in company with the other prisoners held for
trial for similar ofsnses will be conveyed forth
with to that point.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

G- Since the organization Of The bureau or
Office Of the government loan, under the eff
Client superintsndence Of J.. D.. B. DeBow,
Esq the progress of subscriptions has been
very marked and rapid. The Richmond Er'
oininer states that the receipts at the Office,
since It's organization, have been on sn aver
age Of forty thousand dollars a day, with late
evidences Of increase in the subscriptions.
e. The Manufacture Of g%unpowder is said
TO be progressing rapidly in the South. The
establishment Of a government powder factory
is only needed to give US abundant supplies of
this important article. The material is plen-
tifuI. The most valuable ingredient of pow
der, saltpetsr, ia found abuudantly in the lime
/ stone caves in Tennessee, Georgia and North
Alabama.
ca The superintendent Of The Wilmington
railroad has presented The Confederate goverR-
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Ggs Gov. Moore, Of Alabama, was in Mo
bite on the 14lh inst, doubtless looking to the
efficiency Of the city d~efeuses.
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~ A.northern dispatch says that Senator
wilson. Of Massachusetts, is raising "two
raqineots . of volunteers for the war. We
will guarantee that be will never lead one into
battle On the ieId.
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az The Charleston Courier says that pre-
parations are making ia that city to mahufac-
ture locomotives for the southern roads on a
large scale. i is a good move, and we wish it
success. We sincerely hope that the South
has paid her last dollar to locomotive builders
in Philadelphia, Patterson and other northern
towns,
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

FINANCES CT K~ENTUcKY.-It appears from
the late message of the Governor of Kentucky
that the bonded debt Of the state amounts to
S4,731 2I3, 10 meet which she. has S483O,7Oo
invested in stocks Of bark, railroads and
t~urnpikes, including a sinking fund Of $685.
COG. The debt Of The STATE bas been consid-
erabiv reduced within The last two years, and
the resources are considered to be amply suff-
cient to meet the balance as it fails due.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

fT-Hon. W. II. Humphreys, Confederate
States judge, has appointed Hon. W.. H. Sneed,
OF Rockville, Sterling NJ. Cockrill, Esq, of
Nashville, and Hon A. o. W. Totten, Of jack
son, receivers under the act OF ssquesration
pass.d by Congress.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

r1s-The North Carolina Legislature, which
has been ballnting some days on The choice Of
Confederate Senators, has at last effected an
election. Hons. Geo. Davis, and WIN. J.
Dortch were c osen.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

SusPLNDED.-The New York Daily MDs
has been forced to suspend publication. The
last issue, on the 14sh, contained a lengthy
card, bidding farewell to tbs public for a time.
A free press casnot be tolerated by The desPo.s
at Washington.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

u seldier's Aid Society has been formed
at j Fayetteville, Tenn, by the ladies.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

GEN. LYON hILLED ~ 4 u"
The Fort Smith Times tells tue following:
Ap.rro man, body servant Of Capt; John
cTiaitbo of tho gallant 81, was 10 the hottest
If he fght at Oak Hit. and fought IN the last
charge like tiger. He claims to have E'llsd
Gen. Lvon. He says he shot a man in toe
breast that was on 4 large grey horse, a6d was
waving his bat, and be cav MN faii. Ihus II
10 vsTy Drebabie that the abolition Lyon fell
by the hands Of dsFkie.
This same black man, finding bis youngest
master, Benz Griffith, wounded 10 The cat OF
The leg' picked BIN mp snd carried him Oh OF
The feid, Notwithstanding Ben. resisted 1t with
anhis might, rs be wanted to Ere a few more
rounds at the Dutch.
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g The weather in EngIaudha been rath-
er variable and less favorable, but no injury
has been done to the crops. The harvest pro-
crosses finely.
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q Late geological surveys Of North Caro-
lima are said to have discovered, near The line
Of the railroad, a most extensive and valuable
supply oflead, now ready TO be taken up.
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By Telegraph!
e WAR NEWS
DI.patch o lhs Ap5eaI

special Dispatch 10 the Appeal
RICHMOND, Sept. H-Hon. L. P. Walker,
Secretary Of War, has resigned. It is TumOred
that Gen. BraxtOn Bragg will be bis successor.
DIXIE.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

SrrzURE o. MoyEY IN new 4oRK'-h
noticing the seizure Of the $4,000 az the Park
Rank. the New York Tri5ans remarks
We have reason to believe that this WAS only
one seizure Of many, and that : large proper
tiop OF he funds in this city belonging 70 cltl'
zena and corporations Of the seeded ota es IS
=. 10 bs1ds Of the law. From motives Of
noIirv the details are not made public.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

TMadison McAfee, E-q, publishes an
address in the HississtTpian 70 the people of
Mississippi, declining to be a candidate for
Governor.
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DoNpEpERArE TREASURY NOTES.

CONFEDERATE TREASURY MITES
In referring to the fact thai many complaints
are made with reference to the manner in which
the Confederate treasury notes, of the smali'r
denominations, have been engraved, the n. 0.
Price Cgrrent states that they were ltho-
grspbel merely to supply the present demand
for small bills, and that it Is not Intended to
continue them in circulation beyond the time
when bills Of like denominations and executed
ia a style fully equal in all respects to the
larger treasury notes, can be engraved ana
made ready for distribution. The same paper
also states, on the best authority, that the
work OF engraving these notes is in q fair state
Of progress, and that the public will not nave.
to wait very long for their appearance Ihey
will be executed on the very best bank note
paper, Of which there is An ample present sup
ply, and will be squal in appearance to any
oP our bank Doteg. As socn as they are
ready TO be issued, all Of The autographed
notes will be called in, and these engraved anu
otherwise improved notes given in exchange
for them.
~ Hon. Wiley P. MaDgum, Of North
Carolina, died ct bis residence in orange
county, in that State, on Saturday. toe Iuh 'hS'''
! at an advanced age. For some years be haa
suffered with paralysis, and it is probable mat
the recent death Of his only son, from a wound
received Cd the field Of Manassas, depressed
bis spirits to a point from which he could DOT
rally. Mr.. Mangum had filed numerous I'M
! portant public stations, among which were
| those of Judge OF the Supreme Court of his
state, member Of Congress, United States Sen
/ ator, end Vice President Of tbs United States,
BY election of the Senate after the Installation
Of Mr.. Tyler SIS President. He was q man OF
brilliant a~ttainments, an eloquent orator, and
the possesscr Of those Pfivate virtues which
endearsd bin 70 bis %hsighbors and friends
The North Carolina Legislature, on receiving
intelligence Of bis death, passed suitable reso'
/ Iugions Of resnact TO his memory.
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o. DR.. John Jackson, who returned from
Quebec to Knoxville on the 18Th instant, asw
learn firm The Register, reports that The feel
ing throughout the British provinces is most
manifestIy southern in its tone and character,
and it is in bis Judgment evidently q reflection
OF public opinion in the mother country.
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Eeath sf capt. James hamilton.

MEEPHIs. September IA, 1851.
Bulletin copy.
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~ The Nashville BaHner urges the aP-
polntment Of F. X. Z)Iicofer to the position
of Secretary Of War, made vacant by the
resignation Of Mr.. Walker.
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Gg-Goq. Jos. E. Brown, Of Georgia, bas
made the generous donation of $1,000 to the
Georgia Hospital and Relief Association.
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NNTECE,
MEMPHIS AND OHIO RAILROAD,
PREsIDEST's OFHcE

Jso B. Weld Etiutant.
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IL A dispatch from Richmond to the Knoz-
vile Register. dated the I4th INST, c%onfrmstb
report that Rosencrsnz is defeated in North
western Virriais.
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II Nineteen persons, captured by Gen.
Wise, reached Richmond on Thursday las''
They we're captured in Fsyette county, and a
portion Of them were Virginia 'fUBion' men.
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e5EO One hundred and City Federal prisoners
arrived in Charleston from Richmond, on FRI
day last. Among them were twenty-five OFF,
GERS. The prison rs were confined In the jail,
where they will remain until Castle Ptnckney
can be prepared for them, when they will be
CastlesPinckneyed.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

E1V-The q regiment OF Mississippi state
tro6ps, now in camp at Lux a, has elected
Tbos. H. Davidson, Colonel, and 10. Wells,
Lieutenant Colonel, both Of TipPaa county,
md Capt. J. R. Duvsll, M'jor.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

ng The italian Minister OF Marine has
contracted with Mr.. Webb, the New York
shin builder, FOR two iron cased frigates, on
the model of La GRsrrs.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

CT The abolitionists OF the city Of New
York fred a grand salute on the receipt Of the
news of the submission action Of the Kentucky
Legislature.
Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1861-09-17

r. So far as heard from, the vote for toe
Governor Of Texas stands as follows:
~
JhsDbe ...-....-....".... --''.'.' ''o'
Z number Of counties remain to be hear1
from, but the election eff Lubbock is conceded
on all hands. lie was formerly Lieutenant
Governor Of Texas, and is unqucstionably one
nR he men far the nrsaent times.
New Orleans daily crescent. [volume] ([New Orleans, La.]) 1851-1866, 1861-11-13

of the numerous banks in the interior, That is, il
these produce operators could de as Brown, Broth.
ers & Co. did for years in our city, they could con-
troll an immense amount Of business without
dollar of capital. How did Brown, Brothers &
Co. fleece the South of millions of dollars? It was
by having drawing port here, another in Mobile,
with branch in New York and the head in Liver
pool They would draw hundred Thousand dol
lars or q half million, ON New York to-day, say at
sixty days sight; when these drafts became due
they would draw a bill on their head Chat is, fly
kite) In Liverpool to meet it. Ostensbly they
would never be selling bills on New York only at
sight, but they would sell immense sums at sixty
days to the agents of Western banks, which
answered for both parties. OF course this system
Is known to every one coryersant with financial
economy, but it is net known to the eultivators of
the soil, the cotton growers, Our remarks are,
perhaps, taking broad range, from the small
operator in Western produce and Tennessee ce-
reals to the millions of dollars of large exchange
dealers. Whether the immense and unlimited
credit given to firms and operators like Brown,
Brothers & Co. has not been abused, is question
we do not propose to argue, but when it is known
that this Black Republican firm Drown, Brothers
& Coz has drawn three millions of dollars from
ILLS Boou Gty OF NEW OFleaus slHce tHe Aap'
it may be well taken into consideration whether
veto should not be placed on the speculative ten
denotes now more than apparent
There were no movements in exchange to-day
worthy of quotation. Sterling is held at l209l2l.
The banks sell some now and then at l2S3@l25,
according to sums We, however, quote outside
rates at from 1173@l203. 1t is not known for
what purpose Sterling bills are wanted at these
prices, unless for the purchase of merchandise to
be imported via the blockade.
q In stocks and bonds there are some movements.
City Railroad was held to-day at l56. a sale of
State Bank, loo shares, has been confirmed at lao.
Confederate bonds are in fair request at 81 for
large and 96ta9s for small sums-no great desire,
being eyinced on the part of holders to sell.
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8ebieio Df TIE HIatksts.
oaEscEsr OFFICE, No.

0REscEsr OFFICE, No.TD CAlfF STREET, I
Tuesday Morning, November II, 1851.
CoTToN-. I. We notice The sale Of so bales, fol
future delivery, at &c. u b for Strict Middling.
TOBACCO d. Nothing reported.
SusAR..t. The supply is liberal but the demand
4 s very limited. About s75 bids sold at 2@24c
fer Common to Good Common, AZ for Fully Fair,
\ OIL for Clarified Yellow and s@s4c. y ID. ,fol
Clarified White.
MoLAssEs. The demand is good and prices
are firm. About $500 bbs. sold at 19@20c. for
Prime to Choice and 500 haif-bbls. at 2i@22ae, 10
gallon for Prime to Choice, @
FLOUR. n. 455 hbls. Superfne sold in lots at $ll,
Ig3 at 81 rs and 200 Extra at sl2 80 % Dbl. Also
2s5 bags superine at sll, $40 Fine at SO and 800
Unbranded at SO U. Dbl:
CoaN 700 sacks White sold at 81 80 U bushel.
Bran. 700 sacks sold at 81 20 % 100 lbs.
Hay. A bales Grab Grass, sold at $50 50
d ton.
WHIsky Reetifed is retailing slowly DIT 81 %
gallon
Porn. Mess is retailing slowly at SIS u Dbl.
BEEF. Mess Is retailing at $s3 % Dbl. ss5,s.
BACON. Bacon Hams are retailing at &C., and
Sugar Cured at 2s@25c. as b.
LARD Prime in tierces and IN kegs Is retailing
Ut 27@28c. o b.
INDiA BAeaIsa 1. .so4 bales sold at 25c. u yard
cash.
GUsNY BAGS. .I65 bales sold at S5c. cash.
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BOARD OF ASSISTANT ALDERMEN.

3sa III "a vs., CouNcIL CHAMBER Cry HALL,
New Orleans Tuesday, Nov Il, 1861.
The Board met this day, pursuant to adjourn
ment. .. 10,
Hon. J. Magoni in the chair.
The roll being called, the following members an
sweIe ed to their names, viz:
Messrs. Magioni, Allen, Beggs, BENT, Davis,
Leefe and Mensman--7.
There being no quorum present, Mr.. Beggs
moved that the Board take a recess of ten minutes
Carried.
At the expiration of which time, the roll being
called, the following members answered to their
names, viz:
Messrs. Magioni, Allen, Beggs, Benit Davis,
Leete and Mensman-7. sl5 60
There being no quorum, on motionpf MIR. Beggs,
me Board adjourned to Thursday next, l4th inst,
at 8 O'Clock P. NJ.
JOHN L. HOLLAND, Sec'y.
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ssNtm Orleans Hlonfp 5tlarktt.
caEscEzr oEgreE; No; 10 Camp street

W CsEsogsr OFFICE No 10 Camp street
I'M Z n nv Tuesday Evening, Nov. Y, 1851,
Although the general money market does not
appear clonded, there ID no desire eyiaced on the
part Of capitalists holders of the dross to relax
IN their rates. 1t is about as we'll, for to grant
some borrowers yard they would take a furlong /
The banks are moving along cautiously, discount.
| ng large share of the offerings when they are
known to be founded on legitimate transactions.
hey are very cautious about diseountng for plant
alton supplies present ruling prices, say pork at
sa5 per barrel, bagging Or baling at 5000 cents
per yard and rope at 246S cents perpound. Are
these safe prices recognizant by the true laws Of
(; financial and political economy, or by the I'M
shangeable laws OF commerce, for our banks 10
be diseounting on, under the term Of plantation
supplies? Assuredly not. Is 1t wise for business
80 be preaicated On famine, starvation or war
spricess Is itsound policy for our banks to en-
courage the reckless desire for monopolizng and
specuiating which some folks say they ought to z
There are many spurious ideas aloat, such as that
the banks ought to facilitate transactions in flour
corn and pork at the present enormous prices, in
the way of discounting for Mi. Jones "a borrowed
note that he may go to some inland market and
invest at the starvation prices now ruling. But
Suppose the credit system should be entirely sup
planted or oVerthrown, what will follow? Is con.
Gdence between man and man TO be entirely abro-
gated, suceumb to q horde Of spectators and
would-be monopolizers2 What is the meaning and
uses OF borrowed capital? Heretofore it has been,
used for building railroads, excayating canals and
furnishing means for money banks, but now it is
attempted to borrow at the expense and neeessf
ties Of the people. A system Of warehouse re-
eeipts for produce and merchandise is suggested,
that parties may borrow, take advantage of the
necessities of consumers. Let us illustrate. Mr.
S. or Mr. B. is very anxious of making an opera
RON. He can do livery well by going to Tennes
see or other localities il he is assured that his bills
drawn at sixty or ninety days would pass current
| n the bank parlor, should they come through any