Daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, Va. [W. Va.]) 1859-1865, 1861-08-19
VIRGINIA.
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sArrRpAY. Augast l7, ian.


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Minutes read and adopted.
The resolution of the gentleman from
Wetzel came up as unfinished business:
Nh. WEsT said the yeas and nays had
been called upon the adoption of that res
~olutiou, he believed.
Ma. Van WISELE had hoped a nights
reflection would have induced the gentle
man 10 withdraw the resolution. The gem
tleman from Harrison had spoken OF the
poverty of this government yesterday, and
such illusions were calculated to bring the
government into contempt This resoln-
ton TOO, he thought must have the same
effect. Such playful resolutions inordina-
~ times could do no harm, but they should
not be introduced here at such a time as
this.
Ma. CArHER hoped the gentleman would
Withdraw the resolution.
Ma. WEST said he never intended to
withdraw that resolution.
The order of the day came W.
Nh. CARLILE said that the friends Of di-
vision we're willing to offer to the opPo-
nents a proposition for something like this:
Adopt the frst section of the proposition
Of the gentleman from Upshur, which sim
ply fixes the boundary lines, and then add
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the General Assembly at its next session,
If the state Of affairs would permit, to pro-
vide at an early day, for taking the sense
OF the people within the boundary.
Ma. RRosr expressed a willingness to
meet the friends of division half way in
any fair proposition of compromise. He
bad desired to speak upon this question,
but as the Convention had already been
worn down with speeches, he would fore
go any remarks, If the business could pro-
coed and a vote be taken. y.
MR. BoRENAN did not know that he uu.
derstood the proposition. He would like to
have n little more time 20 look into it, and
If it was what he thought it was, it would
suit him. He should not say n word to
the Convention, but from the fact that no
gentleman had as yet taken up the sub
stitute offered by himself, and defended it
in its various positions. They seemed 10
have left this for him TO do, and he asked
indulgence TO be allowed to make IL few
remarks in advocacy of that proposition.
Were they to be selfish in the view they
took of this great question No he ar
gued that all they did should be done in n
spirit of mngnanimity, of forbearance, of
enlarged and comprehensive patriotism,
and not allow that patriotism TO be bound
cd by State lines Let them recollect that
they had a government, around which
clustered the most glorious recollcctions
and all their best hopes. They were here
to do all they could to transmit this gov
ernment to their Posterity and should not
as good loyal men, look well to this very
act, lest they should weaken the cause of
their country and strengthen that of their
ensmies. He would say rs Mr.. Garlile had,
At. .-a a. H.
try, was the division of Virginia, because
il was the interests of his people, the in
terest of the whole State, and his own pei
sonal interest. With respect the State
debt, he did not look upon that question as
many gentlemendid, Congress had nothing
to do with our State debt. If they pre-
scented the question to them there, and
Congress saw that the two peoples coul /
not live together in harmony, in justice to
both they were bound to sactiou the sep
a~ratiOn, and let the two States settle that
question among themselves after the divis-
ion was made, Congress had nothing to
do with il. AS for the time of division. he
believed no man desired an immediate vote,
because they were honestly convicted of
the fact that they were not prepared for a
at this time. The people could not
vote. Tue number of rebel forces within
the borders of the proposed State, pre-
vented any meeting aud discussing among
the people, and must at this time effectu-
ally prevent any expression at the polls.
And if a vote could not be taken now,
when could they take q vote2 If they
could tell him this, he would answer the
question put 10 them so often, how long
they would propose TO wait. He was snt-
isied they should not fix permanently up
on a day at sll. Because, rs gentlemen.
have admitted by their own propositions
we are now unprepared to take a vote.
Aud then did they know they would be
ready on u particular day7 He had
shown they did not Then would it be
right to fix n day when they had no as
surauce that the people could vote upon
that day. The gentleman from Har-
rison (Carlile) wanted an expression
Of tho people; and yet would he ask
the people to vote upon q day when
he knew they could not vote, or when
1t vas uncertain Mt best. Why not pro-
vide for this disability and prepare for
taking an expression at such time as it
might appear hereafter the people could
have az opportunity of doing so2 The
enemy should be driven out frst; to offer
them an opportunity to vote when they
knew they could not would he little better
than insult, The same reasons that were
valid for %postponing a vote were equally
valid for p%ostpouing the formation Of the
constitution. Some gentlemen proposed
TO take the old constitution with some
slight notifications; Why, sir, nothiug
could be more obnoxious to the people OF
Western Virginia than every line Of that
old constitution. But, sir, for a Convcn-
ton of the whole State OF Virginia to turn
nronud aud claim to DO a Convention
chosen by a portion Of the State, to form
= constitution for that proposed new State
would be a moustrous proposition. The
proposition offered by some OF the substi.
tutes, proposing to adopt an ordinance al
lowing certain counties mol now to be in.
eluded In the boundaries 70 vote upon the
question hereafter, was a recognition Of
the fact that the people Of these counties
could not now vote upon the subject.
Well now this was just his proposition