The New York herald., 1861-12-28
Opinions Of English Legislators
and Statesmen.
speech OF Right Hon. T.. IEorsman ON tho
American Question.

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Speech OF Right Hon. II. Horsman ON tho
American Question.
From the london Times, Dec. IL.
Yesterday afternoon the ght Hon. H. Horsman, M p,
addressed his constituents in the subscription Of tho
stroud borough town. There very at
tendance and the right honorable gentleman well
ceiycd Mr. Fewstcr occupied the chair. Mr.. Aorsman
addressed tho meeting cons length After few
rena the poci aspeci OF tho European cont nrnt
Mr HoisSAN saidlEgw TO that ether hch
= IN every mans mans @,ns which : tell IN every mans
pying everyhodys attention One question Is IN every
hody's mooth"A bralasd at wdr scith Amerieorp II s
0rtsnce attach the answer that question BoTs
this ctoed that dsser su be veceted Thenetp year
% eonsr that ansser Papers Wi then be- presented to
u.s. questions viii be asked of Ministers, explanations will
be given which will throw light the subject than
at present possees because take It that during the
last eight months there has been great deal ttnes
and spoken than has yet the light This Ia question Of
all others on which you Interested In knowing what
are the views Of your representatives, what 10 tho
iine they arc disposed TO pursue, and what 10 tho
which, in their opinion, the government and the
Parliament Of the country sneud follow in the painful and
unexpected difficulty In which placed. (Hear
hear.) am very anxious that should come to .
right understanding upon this American question: both
regards the Northern and the Southern States
regards own relation to them. The question seems
toe 10 be very simple although is very large oney
and in order right understanding Of II you 1T look
at the origin the objects and the probable results Of tho
between the Northern aud the Southern States In
order that may understand their relations TO one
another and what and ought to be ngands relations
towards them. The origin Of the as all know.
was tho determination the Southern separate
from the Union with tho North upon the
sident Lincoln whose election in consequence of the
which he entertained Of slavery considered
great triumph TO the Northern States and taken
signal by the Southern States to place tcir house in
order. The first question naturally ask is was the
secession Of the Southern States upon tho ground alleged
for It, tustihabls secession Uow these grounds {thfL
mdy assert that secession juaife because, II
in any great confederation the minority may break Off the
moment they arc in a minority the confederation be-
farce And II the secession Itself eanas0t be jus
fcd still less can lusssfy e manner ia chict The
ctsonss coninieyiced the However, the secession
having been proclaimed, ensued and the determine
OF the North to proceed against tho South became
fact. wcpow ask what the which IL the
duy Of England TO pursue in that war between tho North
and the SouhY hanfestiy was the duty Of England
10 proclaim and adhere to the greai principle
of non-intcryention. (Cheers) But this applcan or
the principle Of yention gnre Grcd otrce 20 The
Northern States, uAo said there cstta b. ma atty tcds
there and who insisted that the Southerners
should be treated as rebels and pirates and could DO
speedily put down. But tho English government took a
far accurate measure OF the power and prospects OF
the contendng parties They saw that it was going 10
be real waf, and probably very serious and pre-.
traced war; and the government Of England at once es
tabsshed for England the position OF neutrality by two
prompt and most judcious measuresfrst, tey adnae.
Liged The Sotdh u bsiEytnt Pocer, end aet tacy
kno,ueqd seidt all is inoonreniencer, s Nortern oc
ode eT 1e Ssutlen ports tHear) 50 much for the origin
Of the and the duty Of neutrality observed and
affirmed by England. qiear Then, ! ask you, this
there opinion In which yon will all concrthat
tho faest and safest way 10 lake the objects Of the
sasAzms @e he North ray 2Ss far ahe oIo,a;oA
Of sGoY Vel, sohGt eudssce there Of hdP President
,sar for he aooon Of sias,y The Official meIabers of
the Cabinet have all repeated tho denial. Tho
North has declared that successful I'm tho they
would not abolish slavery IL has gono further and Of
fered make cocession and give every security
for the perpeuation Of slavery If the South viii con-
time in tho Union. And II matter Of nooscty that
the hatred of The Norhernerst 10 the ntgo far
dsep panscicnta and cruel ttaa 1at Of ne Sdhernery.
1Iear hear II the abolition Of slavery is not the cause
oftl at lexz M nh
the protective tariff be the causc What thsn, is tho causo
believe hat ninety mine ou. of overy one hundred in
partial Engshmen feel that Earl Russell told The truth
clearly aud forcby when, in speech which he made not
many weeks ago, he defined the to Be Matte NmM
limiting far pirs and the South far iads Mtn
(liear. hear.j believe that II man were towr.to
volume lie could moi express the cansc more truly aud
forciby than stated III tiat che sentence; and If
another man with the tongue Of angel were - speak
for month ha could not rce tho truth that cont1ned
in that dehnitiop--(hear hear)'Ihe North are fight
ing for empire, tho south for Independence And
ut first sight think there is something TO be said
for both sides We kzo,y that he Noherners hdce been
$40 uinq almost 10 bursting ,ct he contemplation of Me
5saye aaeaf 81 he great I'm gegM}c sfaJfaeing
whoie continent, 1onh IoGudt1n 20 roa and 50 com
pact in ,s structure that 'coud gre The dro % all lie or
can traveller writer who could give any
signabe limit to Americans visions Of the future
grandeur o his country lie has ioAed upon 10 in
IN arts IN d's, IN eu7t'p thai promotes caeit.
zoon the future gors,, nj and gade Of the ntoe iooid
Inus. admit thee Is sontthtag . ry natural IN ne 'dn
although any who knows history is aware that 10y the
aw OF nature all ovefgrown bodies must break down.
Although there is great crcdniy there Is much mat
may be sympatlzed with N the pride o man for his
country ana his mag ginaiion Il its future greatness.
tHear, hear) On the other hand the Southerncfs say
that they desire immediate independence that
they prefer iad.patdeace tie yoke and ,,a,iaeg-
ship fstt grandeur They say that they arc strong
enough and large enough 10 MAINTAIN theinseiyes.
They aguc that they lose than they gain by their
connection with the North, and that in abandoning tho
North they merely giving .geci TO the same principle
which the founders Of the republic established when they
repudsted their connection with England (Hear) lido
not ask to say which IS correct and which is incor
rect il there s thing wh.h hey have right TO
insist upon in order to have their case understood and
there any course for US to pursue IL is to allow each
party to state the gounds Of the origin Of the quarrel
Well the proceeds, and in short time 1t Is shown
tho English governmsnt were right in their estimate
the power and the c Of the contendpg parties
The has proved Itself able to hold its own aad the
North has shown not only military failures, but
plete tIe1Ldsn 1icii government There Is not security
tat ras es.altshsa @ for 1sy 9, S5sea. % e,.s sr nt
most despoc Of Europe one pot on ue earth
'ghiek erery constitutional right has tee, entirely
0aegly des!rsgea IN The Siaes Of North Aaadica.
(ioar, hcar) An opinion has been expressed thas
democracy In America has failed. ! am not desirout
Of going into that question now, but shall be glad to
enter nIon the dscussion future occasion. But
Nay that the result Of what has been going on
shows that the military enterprise o the North has 50 far
proved failure and that It's cir1 ddminin s al this
moment utterly doyganised and hos completely D o dotcn
icar near The Cabinet OF the Northare in state Of
great difficulty and embarrassment The population
have been haFassed that they almost Ia state
OF desperation They admit that the must b. long
one And then the question occurs, What is it for? II
obvious that the Union easily to be restored, and
ey EN- IL It could be- all know that union cemeated by
blood will not be the old Union founded by the original
fathers Of the republic. II Is not, therefore, question
OF the restorato non Of the Union. 1t Is rather question
The Of separation, as 10 the boundary 10 be
established. 7td Is question for arbitration that could
be more easily carried out before more blood is she'd be-
fore more cxspcraon caused, than after long, per-
niciors aud ealauitous (Iicar, hear) As
coming that conclusion we were astoun cd by tho
intelligence OF the outrage on board The Trent AS 20 the
character OF thai outga say nothing oft IL hs been
fully discussed people have formed their own opinions.
and need 20 INTO any Of the circumstances Of that
transaction. This only know that in the first instance
10 created great astonisimept and great indignation,
which however, In q most creditabe was In
staiy crushed from tho fccing that the gravity Of the
occurrence compelled the people 70 be as.r and with
voice they asked tho question What do the law ocers
of the Crown say the law OF the And so de
ter nired the people Of England be ncenset
by feeling sentiment under tho violation what
they consider the most sacred claim made by the English
nation-tiat 81 giving asylum 10 political Refugees
that point Of all others which the English nation has
aiHays tho most sefsiseso deter mined were they
10 set w any claim that cond not be rndrated BY
law that believe tho law officers had stated 20 ba
their opinion that the conduct Of Captain Wilkes WAS IN
conformity With International law, and II that opinon
had been endorsed by tho profession at large the people
would have acquiesced, will not say without murinuf
bot certainly without outward signs oil resistance
(icar, hear.) Well the aso ccefs q ne c'ts" hare a.
pd her Nfjst thdt ne at ocmpidicd 0 he1tN q m
semi state