Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-06

| to the report, ard hc would h,,. t.,.,.. e
to speak upon that amcnirnc:r. i, "a
Chairman ofthe Committee, o:m..r,.i''
! Der would have ten minutes to ,r,,,, IT.
then his colleague would hare IN ,,,, q {
replication That is not as un,it,.,..,'IGi:'
! Mr.. WrsE.-Read the rcSoIu,oa, ''''
I Mr. PRItE--li that is the can>l,,,..
gentlemen put upon it. think bsy.S" Z
derstood the order Alright. As unis,M ~;
either the gentleman himself, vi,5 nrH
amendment, or his friend, would E,v. a
10 occupy ten minutes in repI!ca,,s, 80
that the Interpretation which YOU ~. j.; ~
| der, sir? sc o
The CuAiR2AS.--TEe genticmai. H.,
ing the amendment has the rigt, d 70 '.:"!f
| for ten minutes.
| Mr.. PRlcs. Then it Is confined ia,
t,eman himself VITO proposes ~. au,r,l.:'f
and he would have the privilege Of oc,',
twenty minutes altogether, "hle the f;an:
the report as it is would have only ten ,,:e'
Mr.. Sized Of Campbell.-My a-.,In."..'
based upon the idea that wou.j be So ,.,..:
in time that could not flash ~: lea,
occurred to my mind for prescnti;.: n. .n
u.ent; and, farther, that al,houg.: ! r:,i.
he restricted, might not be 50 vel, 90,
10 present arguments IN favor of tie a.,
men. Is another nenber, and Sc; war,.: I
| sumo the time while he would tayr gi9. ~
Mr. PElcR-I know my friend wo,.? -nn,f.
unfortunate as not to make himself Under, /
IN zen minutes; but if such should .. II. -,
| auprehend it would be bsitee fer ~.
league to PROFOUND the amendment. lie
the right to open and to conclude, srI II
we're confused at the outset hope J..
be very clear at tho conclusion, SO L.:
would be distinctly understood | thick
quite material to know wha; the slE:e If.
committee is. | asli that the ayes and h.
shall be called. and let us see wactArr ii.
cision Of tho Chair ought to be SUSTAINED.
Mr.. WIsE-Wili my friend from Green. /
let Inc give him another illustration: j
now he made blunder, an esgresious On, i
which the Chair corrected him, but ;.SGs-,.
rule he would not bc allowed 10 corrcc, a;,s.-
Mr.. PRlCE Il a;n aware, sir; i, was E -,
i,aInatcrial blunder.
SIR. AMBLER, Of Lousa.-1 differ from ;. |
Chair on this question. | would ask Ii. {.
.ention Of the Chair to the rules 81 Tie IIc>,
Ii the rules which you have aicy,e! tt,.
there is all express direction to the Chair 70 !,
governed by Jcfferson's Manual Ii The Cb,.
will look at that Manual it wi. find il IL.
rules laid down to govern the proceedings :.
the Committee Of tee Who,c, tia; his pf:a,.
Me is clearly involved in the Instances ,.s,.
cited: that when, for sufficient reason. b? :,
cdent, or even by dcSigri-as in the Co.. d: /,
difficulty arising in the COMMITTEE :. l..
Wh0,e-wh hen the Speaker took tie Ga;
and, by the act Of taking the Chair, he, i..a
self, on his own motion, DISSOLVED he Co~q.,
fee Of the Whole and the Nuuse was n:sf:,,
in session. Now, sir, can it bc tina, re Cr,r
IS So to cons,rue the rule here Is tia: 10 -,
or the body of the Committee is 10 ne :::a5.:::
their intention crushed on, by The Gee.$i5: .:
the Chair, when the case Is before ynu II tia:
Manual By which yen arc directed 20 be ~.
erned, where, by he Motion 81 the prc.!,...
himself, the Committee o. tine Whole w4s d .
solved and the House resumed its session: o.
YOU mean, sir, rs you must, If your decision :.
sustained, that the body OF Tie Committee:
not do what the body OF the Convention i,.sl
can do? Suppose that this Committee s!.o.:
hni Itself without quorum, has the Comm.
lee no power to send al!e- members to brin:.
quorum here, il 4 question is pending h:t9,:
It? You cannot have 4 vote upon tie q,4r.i..
unless you have quorum; and il Tie dec;sts
OF the Chair starGS, you ms: wait here ua:.
> o'clock arrives before you can exercise H.,
power. Is not that construction an cqIa. ~
sIrdity: might 60 on and Illustrate *
principle in fifty different wovs. i, is ar q.
Surd;ty which we would be forced into il 50.
allow the decision of the Guar ,,sttnd TX:
Committee itself is the judge o. when, undo
what circumstances, and how, it ought 70 &c.
port lis action to the House.
1t is suggested to ME that tie case which !
have just put has actually occurred here, was:e
there was no quorum, AID the practice tie:
adopted wss TO so bark into Convention. and
correct the evil, whatever It waS-!or do moi
remember the case ny SIT But sir, il hi.
Committee sustain the decision Of the Chsi.,
sc place ourselves in ] position where i; mus:
necessarily follow as think can be demon
a.ra.cl by ,hs manual --L:e'. : .'.o .u.t.,:::~
which should govern the Chairman Of l..
Committee here-fron which nothing but ,
total disregard Of the rights cf Ike mlao.:ly,
can by any possibility cAtr!cate you.
The CuA!RMAS-Ci"ntleren il is proper tbs,
::i.e: listening with mEch patience to the var.
GUS arguments urged against ne decision wtc:
has j.is: been given touching tie question r.
iure you the views Of tic Chair should i.
'cald and at the same time TIC Chair assure
the Committee that if, in :hcir opinion, Il:
Chair is incorrect in tie decision which it b..
just giren-of the correctness Of which l.;
Chair las no doubt-it is the duty Of the Cou
mittee, irrespective OF the feelings Of tie Chs:
i"overrule its decision and sustain the appeal
1t has been stated by the gentleman from p:a
c,ss Anne CIR. WisE) the resolution proTiia
that this Convention shall be called to order s:
10 o'clock, 4. ~, ut half past ~ shall rcstl5.
itself into Com nit:ec Of the Whole unon ;h
reports Of the Committee upon Federal Rs!i
tons, at o'clock shall take IL recess Unit.
when it shall resume its Session aud .it duri::
its pleasure. ard that that order shall so reEa.
the law Of this Committee unlIl further orit:s:
by tbs house. The gentleman is perfectly O.:
rect. Until the house alters this law which /
has prescribed for the government Of this C3c
ln'ltee, it is binding and obligatory uponi'
and, in tie opinion Of the Chair, the Commits
have no right to reverse the order Of the Goa
vcntlon, and that order remains during tn
pleasure Of the house, and until set aside By
the house 1t can only be in the House ws:"
it IS ia Convention assembled that a mo;'21
can be made TO rescind, mcd!fy. or entr:iy :.
peal IN order which it has made. Ii has Re-.
further suggested by the worthy gcnr''cs''
from MiddleseX CIR. Mo>rAGrE) that the d..
cision of the Chair is not cprr"rr. simply u?%.
tho ground that the business If the Commits:
may De concluded before the hour ct two ocIQ;i
ct ) day would say. that wIlcn the b..
!'rsS of tho Committee is completed, CT cca's
;here is IN end of il, ard The Committee mus;
rise. Ii resolves its,f sack into Cpn:cnt!o-
and reports I" the finus" that It's Gi;ies have
neen cnrieiy discharged! It's business comps
tel, ard Gi course il Is dissolved, aud does no
nicst again. lt has b"en inri:natri BY 'se
worthy gentleman from LJuSa ,Mr. AsBLE'
that The Manual lays down The rail-. Nha'e'f
rule tie Manual lays down, the G,n:roi'"'
na> made ru" for lis own grver:.h::.! M.
pendent of the Manual.
Tie Convention has made this rue sai 81
provision Of the manual Ia the contrary a.
neen set aside by til. order 81 tie ,;Y:Fs1'
ton.
\ MENa&s. -S1rpos.- y" were T.;.::.i
quorum