Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-16
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Mr.. CaAM.Liss :-Mr. Presidenr, II S vi
knowA that the constituency whom 1 ha"e Ii
hoilo: % :cr:Gsrlit upon this GuJra aTea as deep
lsilerestcu LII lhc question pi The taxation
slaves lis any other constituency rcprescnte
here. At the same time that they are u deepi
Interested IN this question, II Certainly VI;
not !lelr expectation that Ut the meetng
this Convention the question would be discus
I'd. wIsh 10 say 10 my friends from I'll
West, that when Tie proper time cOu,cs t"r til
discussion Ui this question ui taxation, III
shareholders ii Eastern Virginia viii be- read
IL deal iairiy un,l rIuitabiy and justly vii
It. While they own vast amount Vi hi
property, they are generous, and are Away
willing u cvstrjbute &c The pubic treasur
whatever Is right did proper.
Iuoi:iore, / wuuid request tie Seni!eue
70 pUstpUur, lur the present, tlis discussion
;l'is Interesting Question. | !ihGk ma
answer i1r the shareholders o! Eastern vi
sln;a and say, that NC wiit INJECT Lhem Ut tn
proper tiIar, Ia prcprr spT!l; ana II LIE pre-.
eut taxation u s!avrs i. ong, Il It
rGcc>e"Ty l.ut only 10 lax The p:"Jut
uvIa Ui tile Slaves, but also to tax theI
l, .nupcrry ui.d nU. q. 4 iaLoring i'orIioI .
EuglE%l i Jou s.tte lhai tnlt Is right rs
principle oi Taxation, We viii uuet } vi vii Tia
Issue i.iily ana justly. Eut beg geuticmci
0i the I;.:,t " let Us settle this aiiatsUrDlhl
question III which We have been engaged, irst
LIT Us settle al thasc astatlng quesiiui:
which arc now dlstul blng tue Country lrOu
one end OF the Union u the ottiur. Let hlr
giuia ulst settle that, AID when she has louu'
what Is ~ J.cUuie Vi her, 0I!G where she Is l.
81, al portions q. the CUlnn,ou"raith Will b
ready IL contribute w::atrSer may Gc nrccssa
r. L. the public L:eI-ury !or her pro:cctioI
and dulcIlcc. | think hive Some right 10 al
dress mys=.f 10 \, cstcrn ge;4.lcucu upon th
subjec:. Never, ny"hcIc, or upon any occu
slou, either publicly or privately, nave cTe
attributed " those peupie Any Ut:Icr Keeling
than tuat OE juet, l!ae, aid proper Loyalty Il
Vngiria, aud La all urr iusilIu!l5ns. hcVcl
intend ~ i;npusa tue motives y! any people -
II l. gGntieunan tells me laGt he is i h!rstaIa.
prima Jac;u, lis Ecarl is IN the rig i pace. -
lie must give lie eviGclca ol ms wax VI lvy atty
strong sLu conclusive, o:iure VII! cutcr!a.,
or ilarbuc lii unnIul though; towards him.
Let me tnen, gentlemen iiv;a Tie " rstern
part y! virginia, eu:ieat YOU to let this qucs-
lion slrcp iyr the present. | dp lot think you
are guilty vi any violation OF plishted iaith,
for Introducing IL Wlia;ever nlIgut have been
C0nycEllon, having Dccn uenber Of II my
sell, l caa say that uu uian b:l!ered that DC
considered hinae!i obliged not tu disturb the
question whenever hr had III opportunity o!
,IJ!.. 50. ii We suul! re.usSrluu!e here-aa II
scvlDs 10 be Considered on all hands lilaE we
Wl!i--,u October or euue t!uie during the Fall q
the present ear Il sc have Settled Luis subject
Hii!Cli il Oi n:ucn greater inteIeSt than thai
vi t2xa;iur then Te will meet you upon the
ligSLluu Oi tlyAtlUn N al IalruesS
AN ialoruicd that III my absence 4 test
vote w4s laKeu ia ih.s house upon laying these
ccsvlu:IJnS OIL the thJ!e. Il it Is the leteriun.
alton ol Western gen;irlGeI To have tliis inves.
us:liom Initiated, liicn the eInendment Of my
friend iro!u Gloucester, Mr.. SEAwELL,) shouiG
prevail. VI are not disposed nov " take any
lill! action. Let tile committee cnqlrc into
Tie sutJ.ct - suggested in the amendment OF
niJ friend from Gloucester. Let committee
!,e appointed 10 enuu,re whether any change
ue necessary 1t ell on the subject ot taxation
vi Slaves; 10 Investigate wla,ner the prIhclplr
Is right or no; because if this principle is to
ue established that all slaves under twelve
yeara vI agc a:u ~ lie taxed; Il the principle
- las, i.I. Dcc, Indicated by one Of the gen
ilc!Ii"n on thIS subject Is the true principle
that you Viii value tlrc sllves; you viii deduct
the expense Vi their maintenance; you viii.
Collect iuc Interest upon tile value und dcduc;
Inc expense from the ;.iuuuAt ol the interest
~. n, Il tkn
If yvu make the estimate in that way, should
not he surprised lilat you will ccliccs less rcYr
ur u10n slaves !l.au yuu ID iio:r. ! am not
.o!ng Lu discuss this question at his time Ii
l.. one which. wnen It does cp.ne up Tor discus
SION, representing that lag" slave interest
rhcn 10 rrprcsrili, ] atiail l.el myself COM
pelrt 10 discuss il in nil lis bearings But lor
he present again ask that 1t may be post
yoned until lbrsc uIiguLier and overwhelming
questions ha"c oeen disposed # to the satis
aci.pa oi lh,s Convention, and nnpc tD tur
satisfaction Of the people ol Virginia.
Mr. NAYN0SD.-Alr. President, do not rise
. discuss the uicrils OF the question now bcIort
he Convention. nave already discussed tic
atfiis u tue question to some extent, as ihr a.
thought i. necc>s::ry i'll the fGru III which il
: - present prJrc tll;s :'ody. | wish to say,
Sr. President, Oh thl: OCCASION, that so far u
al. concerned nS AL individual, as I'LL hIiilI.
Die lrrultcr Ul :h:s Convention, and as d citi.
zen If this Commonwealth, | shall make
70 further declaration Of Loyalty to Virginia.
have du.e so heretofore. Il have done il in
good iaih; | have Expressed the honest feel
ngs Of ny heart But / desire gentlemen
.> ,,,J.rer,,d ,h,t A.. /,
more than one Part or more than one section !;
tnd that when gentlemen from tie Western
portion Of this Stale arc expected to be loyal
10 tc interest u Eastern Virginia, ii is reason
luc aad just to expect that f lstcrn citizens
vii DC just and true 10 them. desire to have
!. understood by this Convention. and
.rcm this CJnTcntiou, whether or not
We are to lie denied This principle OF JUS.
.ice which VIC are GeraI,';iGs: 1t is iniuIatc-
rial 70 me whether that principle Of justice is
10 be acknc" e'igcd tc day, tnIs week OF this
nn:Iih; | dn lut desire 10 encltnGCr lne iu!-
Lortsnt question cf Federal Relations any more
than coace,ve Justice dtmands; but merely
w!sh An EXPRESSION UPON the part nI this Con.
vcntion nov, whether they intend to give US
tits rcilet tell geni!rii:e!i who entertain the
opinion Of my frunI lroru GrsenesTi'ie (Mr.
upnn the subject ol our Federal
relations. that Virginia ought to be prepared
TO settle that question upon tic principle upon
which he asks 1t TO Dc settled, until this CUES.
ton is first settled rose, sir, for the purpose
ui de,nsndng lie previous question, and
now make that dcuiana.
The PkEsIDESr-T!Ie pending question is on
the amendment of tie gentleman from Glou-
ceslcr to the amendment oGercd by the gentle.
man from Jackson, and upon this the previous
question is called
Mr. BrEDEIT-I der,and the yeas and nays
upon that question.
Mr. TREDwAY-May enquire whether, il
the previous question is Sustained and this
is voted doxn, that will preclude
the offering Of another amendment?
The PREsIDEST-Nn, sir.
Mr.. BrRprTr-I withdraw the motioE for
the yeas and nays.
At the request OF several members the ORR
ginal resolution ana the AN sndment were re-
ported.
FEDERAL RELATIONS
Tne PRESIDENT hour has arrived for
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