Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-23

body, Of wiiG;cTer party.
want to see whether these wilo have l.cer
so exceedingly ANXIOUS for IN appeal to The
people. will nov c'ne up and place this ap
zeal upon this m7st important subject, vhsra
it can ho fairly lnsdo and fairly met
Mr.. lluSToS-If the sentleumn w;il permit
!: me. desire to know to what States no refers
in ms amendment, when he SAYS this Csnsti,u
tion is to be submitted to the neoula of tho
Several States
Mr.. BALDwlS--lt is merely = suggestion,
that where this Constitution shall hc adopted,
by any State it shall be adopted BY vote OF
the people, and not By mere politicians.
Mr. HrNTuS-lhen say To the gcllttruan
from Augusta, that aln ia favor Of his rrono.
Sition.
Mir. GALpwiS-I: refers, II course, to thoso
States which concur with us in making aud
adopting that Constitution, and Suggests that
the adoption or rejection shall be by tho peo.
pie ct tie polls. desire to present in this re.
specl as striking contrast as possible to the
action upon This Suhiec: by the Conventions of
the Confederate States.
Mr. HuSTaE-The poin. desire to present
to tho gentleman is. ihR: "s have no
right % prescribe 10 Ihe o,h"; S..ies ihc
msnner in which lheJ Shall raiiiy or reject tlI1
Constitution that may be agreed upon. As
ia- as Virginia is concerned, ! am III favor of
submitting any such Constitution g :;.v
| people.
| Mr.. BALDwIH-Carts:niy thi, is ro. Siic;a.
ting TO the other Sales AZ all We merely
suggest 70 them haI in Our ooiEicn is the
best pan in thls respect, as We we have su.-
gestsd that ;io delegates 10 such a Congress
should DC selected by conventions similar 10
our o"n. All We d, is merely to suggest tha.
the action vf that Congress shall BIZ ratified or
| rejected By the people Of each State. We have,
Of course, 60 right TO dictate 10 the other States,
what shull be .hcir action, but 80 have the
| right respectfully 70 sugsest,o tiic:a the course
We have adopted, 80 IA: as Virginia is coz.
cerned, in regard 10 TIE Submission OF lhe ac-
tioc OF tha! Congress 10 the people !or their
ratification.
DIR. WISE called for the yeas aud nays upon
The adoption Of the amendment
The cas- and nays were ordered
Tie question vas then taken, and It vas de-
cded III the affirmative, yeas ls., noes I, as
follows:
strong, Aston, B,dSlu ii. Basocur. Ja~es Barbour,
Baylor rri Baker, Blow IT,. GogS.ss Bor,, Gou!n,
BOYD Branch, eeht, sro~n. Bruce, Hurds,t, Ba:lry,
man, clsDr:s, Gu as coup, c B. Conrad. Rop=r
Y. Conrad Cuacr Urlch-r Cu.. Dent Dw,klns Dorasr.
puany, Fairly, Erh" Fouraoy, Forbes French GlrIard
Gillespie, Grahsm, Gr~v=y, Gray. Gregory Jr Cog "a,
J GcUde. Jr.. I. Goode. lia c. Z. Hall. L s. Hal,
Hammond, ilsrr!c. Nynond uolecnhs, H1lIaasr Huh.
bard, kugh:s, Hull hnntha, soe JaeAs III g. Johnston.
Kent LaTson Leske, Levi, Mccomas. NJ, Grr~. Mncsr.
land e. Mallory, J. Il. Mallory M-r,' all Marr Mar.-,
sr, Nastu, Ma>;er Miller. 81, Mo- RE Iorton, Moorr,
S-isnn 0rrick, Os5u:u -k. Patrick pendvion Pert r
Price, pus echarcsu", Rive. scott sharp. s!, 1.y,
Siilneton, s,rGh Snulh H. Speed Stsph, Chapman J.
s:usrt Strsng-, sanners 5atherln Tnrr T.ye Thorn.
t. II. Turnrr TA!-r. Waller whe, Viii aelI Wc4haiD,
Wiley, Williams, Wilson, Wise, "h'or-lHi
SAYs-Ae..T,. roisseaa, CaunDi>s klny TrsGway-4
50 the au!tiiG;uviit wea agreed ".
Nr. UARrIE-i move IL str &c out in the
third line irJul the word Con tiimtioi' to, and
including toe wcrd body in the 4:h lice, a.
follows: "by the lime appointed for III: re
assembling 0! this bcdy," and 70 insert in lieu
thereof the WORKS "br the trsl Of October
n=xL" so tn; j! 'Ti;l read
And in the event tina; favorable responses
on the part OF the nor slaTehoidinS States De
not made 10 The proposed amendments to thr
Constitution ty the frs: Of Otlober nexL"
sc
Mr.. Cbairm.a. ny object is IL take tie gen
tisinan from Augusta st his word, and have
new deal" ii tcn Ibis deal was had the gen
tlemsn from Augusta ard lhose cooperating
with him, ai.i'cr'rd III. lr"l,lo ,-i.- th,-
matter into lbcir own h.ids. Whenever l
heard thsm appeal II the people, it was TO
| permit this Convention 10 d. n9thing without
their owii sanction. II nay DC true ina. the
act Of the Legislature calling ,hu Committee
! did not go to that eEteui, 5u: tI.a: was the Is
sue everywhere made ~ !;ie people.
Well, si-, - lar as the people can act, they
have since acted. Sc far as haze heard frotU
the people ir eTsTy quarter Gf the State, they
/ have lfi :uicd and declared thatt was the duty
! Of ;hIs Convention lu lay he!oTe the people
the question whether they you'd change the
relations which tney row hold to the Fcds.
| rsl Government Sl-, def The majority CT
this Convention 70 60 before them ON that
question def them in the name Of my
| immediate constituents, ard | defy then, IL
the name Of Gil overwhelming majDri;y oi the
people Of Virginia, to go beipre the people
| no! orly upon the question o. severance
Of the State f7on the Federal Union, but up.
on t.e ia:ue whether you or ue represent
theIu IN this Convention.
Now, Sir, wbst does TIE gen,le.nan from
augusta snl ! c1i! attention. 70 !l:s deCiara
trr, pregnant as It IS with distTust ut tha
i,eoplc. What Oil he say "tea he VAS upon
tue t,1r a short time ago? lie said th.t If
ths election q! delegates to t5 proposed Con
g!cSs was 10 ;ahc place by the rsopie, ii lni. Mt
prrc:.ance turn out ina! TIC dr!eg ,;es the peo.
pie might send svil!d be ia an,ry3Dis,u with
his ConTeat;na.
Mr.. BALpwI IS-What said was TINT could
see no other reason lor their nleCt;an being 5y
the people, unless grn!lcu'en hoped SUCH would
he tic result.
Ar. HaRvle-ies, sir, and am prepared 20
say .tat such will De tile result, nhcneeer his
C0uyeutiou shall submit the question 10 the
t.:Ss
Let him not com- inio ti.is cnHcIsve wi:i,
the cArds packed. They were plcSe. tho fitst
day OF The session. THEY sre packed n5S.--
Let him nv! force the people nlG t";5 Ghuan"!
which they have dag here; out spread II" can
vass broad Let the people take tneiT "7'h d-
rsc,ion and atn satisfied and conl ieat that
the! will rcbuke the actlun oi this CoaventI1h
whenever tho Issue II presented. this Is n
pretty appeal which The gentleman has ua!s
5c he last 1novs t.rnt, anti FOR Til;ct pe nave
been cotnp.ile to Eote, III 2rinop!s and OF
principle GiuGa-
..nd what is the object? The ohjcc, Is TO
inanacc, and Ito the naads Of The people ty
lnaci!iGcry and after tie will Uf the people
tas been defeated, lnd after ho has substituted 4
The action oil his machinery Tor the popular
action, then it is that an appeal is 5e 10 nude to
them, Wbcn il is too iate l'r Inc PsPu.a. H.-
lion TO hare aug effect.
Why not m,Se HE s?peal nov: l'he gen.
slcnlan says! wHuid ,aic kilt ::1n'. .!lhs and
h- instances !,s election 81 las: w:a;er, .:ne.l
the ground was Irrz:n "id snow was ;alling
Why not IL. the reu;,!e be appealed ~ again be-
lore October, when The gentleman modsstly
proposes to come back here anti perfect the
york. Why no; let the pcop!e dt>ide wine
,:.er they wans the scntle;n-c % perfect the
| work, or whether they wga: i;lo Surk perfect
| cd at ALT i,nv gentleman fir!t stated TINS
call to the people last Fall, ard, il my opinion.
the people mere delGded by the appeal made t"
them, AID allowed thus gentleman 20 have thus
far his own way. Now arpesl to h!'h to
give the people an opportunity to ce:Siuine
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