The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1861-01-11


Senator'S, is that that flag shall not be set between
brethren, but, when II shall no longer %
the flag Of country that it shall be folded
up and laid away like q vesture longer used and be
kept like sacred memeno OF the past TO which all OF
US can look with sacred interest, and remember the
glorious days when born. In the letter which
was read yesterday, speaking Of Fort Sumter when
ii stood without garrison, il was said that IL was NJ
capable OF defcuce. Did the Caronlans take itf nd
they propose 10 seize tY IL stood then safe, as ahc
property. Then il might have stood while negof satons
were going on was faith upon which til AZ relied
that the federal would take no ositjoa OF
hostility TO them and they thus lost the advantage
which they had OF taking it, think fomething is
cations withdraw that force, TO the gerry manner in
which il taken. 1t taken vShile Carolina re-
under the assurance that the Status would not
be violated. Why, was under that assurance, and
half dozen Other Senators felt under the same
pledge, that nothing would be done until negotiations
should be terminated unless il TO withdraw tho
garrison. Ihen the federal government broke the
faith and from that first act of unprovoked hostility
all these acts to which reference made the Message
the seizure Of forts elsewhere Why seized Because
self preservation is the first law OF nature They no
longer had confidence that the federal government
wouk these forts for attack OF for protec
ton and they seized the forts to prevent the enemy
taking them, for enemy they were compelled TO be-
licve this government Now what is the remedy
Assure them that you do not intend TO physical
force against them that you intend to consider calmly
all the claims which they make to the rights which they
possess that you intend to settle with them upon basis
IN accordan with the Declaration of Independence and
the OF the United States When you that peace
prevails the land and force becomes thing which
no man can threaten have here inserted question
which will not argue II Is the right Of State to with
draw The President says we have not the constitutional
right to withdraw and the Senator from Ohio {r Wade)
and his ally the Senator from Tennessee r J0hnson)
ne of secession s Mr. hs @
served rights Of the States that the States did
surrender their sovereignty; that the constitution was
ratified by the States and was compact between the
States He said that the States which seeded from the
old constitution stood in the very position which is now,
speech OF the Senator from Tennessee mir Ohnson) and
asked what he meant by lighting in the Union. He said
he did not see how men connected by bond Of union
could light each other.
Mr. JOHNSON, opp Of Tenn, explained that he mean.
to stay in the Union and keep places here and contend for
in their places Mr. Lincolns administration could do
nothing without the consent Of the Senate, and no en-
croachments could be made on their rights
Mr.. DAyH-I think understand the Senator. 1t is
a sort Of fight Of votes and arguments, and there
fore does justify the President in calling the
camp. have to say. once for all, that 50 long
ms I am Senator here, will not use the powers
win not attempt to destroy the administration by
fusing any officers, to administer its functions will
vote, as ! have done, with the administrations 10
which have stood In the nearest relation against
bad nominaron if could expect to be here, but
would agree under the forms Of the constitution
with the powers hold as Senator Of the United
States to turn these powers to the destruction Of the
government. l leave that TO gentlemen who take the
oath with mental reservation. 1t is my policy, if
must have revolution il nothing but blood will suf
fee let be revolution such fathers waged
when denied their rights. SO much for that. ! hope
called out and the female schools will continue kept
heretofore Are we, in this age Of civilization, and
political progress which seems TO render 1t possible
that the millennium may be ecen--are we now to roll
back tho current Of human thought, and again
and BEASTS Of prey as means Of settling questions
between man and man Is Il TO be supposed that
naenable rights for the purpose OF transmitting the
constitution to posterity as condition by which they
could could only gain these rights by forcey So then the
principle established, for force in application
before the revolution was fought. ] pass from this
question to ask why is this right denied? Because
have brought this conflict between two sections, in
which struggling fer domination and the other for
existence II claims you shall go, and you shall
remain with your rights you shall remain as hewers Of
wood and drawers Of water for II that is to be
made the Issue, and we are TO be held to
that position by force, We accept the wager Of battle
and Mississippi in her brief history, claims TO have
shown at Pensacola and at Orleans something OF the
spirit OF the rcemen who achieved Independence and
II has also been satisfaction TO know that the present
generation have not dcrogaed from the history Of those
who went before them. On many bloody field both in
foreign and Indian wars, has assembled many proud
spirit Of Mississippi now cnshrned in glory, and look
ing down upon US to see If we vndicate the glory
OF our state, and to see if our hearts beat true
If this right were admitted, should have fewer
calls 10 exercise IL than we do. There would be less
danger from the dominant section. There would be
is the right denied Il is a metaphysical question
the best. But the fact that States have
gone out and what is the Of arguing the rght9
The only question that remains is first, have you the
power My friend from Louisiana lr Benjamin) refer
red TO the disastrous scenes which might be imagined
by the invasion Of the south, but h did not
banners would do but little harm in march
ing through country covered with plantations.
They would lind but little subsistence, and sparser
settlements How stands IL the other slider Popu
lous cities and towns There the torch and the sword
would do Us work with dreadful havoc. Starving
millions would weep over the cupdity OF those who
had presented them with the sad result We do not
desire these thngs-seek not to disturb your pros
perity. We have rejoiced in your prosperity. We
have used your ships for the purposes OF
and communication. We have goried in the extension
OF American commerce. and in every achievement,
when you have carried flag, and IL must leave
YOU, leave YOU stn with good will. We prefer
your prosperity should continue. II we must part
put relations that oasis which will
give you the advantage of favored trade with us,
stil make II mutually beneficial TO each other But IL
you will not, then II is issue from which
win not shrink; for, between oppression and freedom
between right and power, we will invoke the God
Davis referred To Mr. Jehpsons speech again. eontcod
ing that the authorities he quoted were many Of them in
,ahSI tue right 81 ,so ssc,ss1h but the question
shall we do with events, as they s,andS Shall we
allow this separation to he totak shall We render
u PEACEFUL or shall we have II partial, and will
they give each state military power and revenue
power, and still preserve a agency, yet not
separating them SO entirely to create any additional
work in roconstructionY | waive the question OF
quality. There " no quality, unless there are two
interests OF either or both II may be that two
fedcracics could be organized that states agreeing
with each other in internal policy, might associate to-
relations with each other close TO give them unity
OF power In time Of war against foreign enemy.
These things, it devoives upon you the majority
tim, 10 consider. Mr. Davis then went on 10 argue
that the republicans bad not acted, and had re
fused the propositions offered in the committee
contcnding that If the republic should fail, it would
not prove that self government had failed, and still
less win liberty be destroyed, There will be injury
10 all sections. Time has rolled up past the point
when propositions could be made, and he would not
say how propositions would be received n they we're
made. lie referred TO the rise Of the republic and
SPOKE Of the efforts he had made here to avert the
evils. But The only response frcfn the republicans
stnlid indifference. He denied there was any.
body at the south III favor OF monarchy but tho south
were In earnest IN this separation. 1t had given warn
ing, but II was not needed He closed as foows-But
the time il al hand when the places that know ms
a. colleagues laaorng together, shall know us In
that relation no more expect but few days longer
D. Of you. have aborcd here avert the eaias.
rophe which descends upon the country unssccass
tnliy, AMI regret II. For the few days while may
remain here willing 10 labor, that that tgophc
shall hc as little destructive 20 the public peace
and prosperity as possible " YOU will in these last
moments avert civil he Ii. ft better 50. 1f