The Richmond palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1855-1875, 1861-05-23
Richmond, Wayne County, 1didna,

DV showing from ScSeIat sculptures, Luz
this blessing is conditional. none of whic
did Mr.. +. notice. Second said Bro. ", MI
F's definition OF .'all Nations gives 10
another concomitant of the final judgmeu,
All nations are to be gathered before him
that is all men are to stand before him, an
he is to separate them one from another a
the shepherd disideth his sheep from tn
goats; some are to be blessed and others t
TO be cursed. Matt. XIV. 81. Al. Was vo,
at the destruction Of Jerusalem? Mr. Eos
ter. Was this audience there? Here Mr.
F. showed evident confusion. he tried rst
to make all nations here mean all nations
the sheep representing some ma ions, and lht
goats others; but before he sat down. be
made an application of it to individuals.
3. The doctrine Of endless punishment
makes the inhiction Of the penalty of law
uncertain for before death man can repent
and escape it. By this Mr.. F. ignores the
doctrine of pardon.
4. Relief of the gospel produces perfect
peace and joy. but if it teaches endless
/ punishment. a man can not be happy in the
belief Of it. Here his argument is against
him. His system ignores all pardon, and
makes man suffer in hell on earth.
! s. Gods will is absolute. He wills "that
all men should be saved and come to the
knowledge of the truth" Hence they will
be saved.
Bro V. said. Gods will as rule of divine
action is absolute. but as rule of human
action. il is not. For said he, in the Scrip
lures God enjoins righteousness and forbids
sin. Now. these commands were made
either without reference to the " i'll of God,
or they were against his will, or they are
expressions of his will; let Mr.. F. take
which horn of the dilemma he pleases. Mr..
F.. however. notwithstanding this dilemma
was presented on the first proposition.
against his purpose argument. neither there
nor here ever dared to maintain it.
6. Views about hell have changed; there
fore the doctrine of endless punishment is
not true.
1t is hard to see how this argument does
not ruin Univsrsalism. Has it not changed?
7. Law of God will not have served its
purpose. until all are brought into submis
sion to it.
Strange too. We have always been
taught that law has served it's purpose,
when its penalty has been inflicted upon its
violator.
A few other arguments of like calibre
with the above last named. were offered.
and answered, SO far as they had any thing
TO do with the proposition in debate.
Now q few words in reference to this
avoidably prolyx synopsis. and also in refer
ence to the debate. t
To obtain fair view of the matter, the /
passages cited should be referred to. Many
things am compelled to omit. such as ref
erences to Mr.. RS contradictions aud in
,onsistencies. He made frequent attempts
10 draw off upon side issues. such as how
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Mr.. f. had said his opponents
..brsln was obluse," yet he was too "sharp
for that"
To illustrate his want of matter. Mr.. F-'s
last speech but one was almost entirely
defamation about the heathen.
RESULTS.
These were glorious Throughout Rich /
mond. as far as l was able to hear, there was
only one expression. excepting. of course.
his religious coadjutors, aud that was, that
il WAS a complete overthrow of Universallsm
snd exposure oil its rotteness.
The Methodist friends of Union chapel.
one of the most popular churches OF the
place, whose pastor, with reluctance, SIX
months a.o, announced an appointment for
me. opened their beautiful and comfortable
house on Lords day. night after the debate,
and cordially invited US to occupy 1t. we
as cordially did so. One of the largest
audiences ever assembled in it was there,
and they listened with apparent delight
That meeting was regarded by th" commu-
nity as a public decision in reference to The
merits Of the del bate. Let US, brethren OF
Union Chapel, and all Christians. unite upon
Gods truth, and the combined powers Of
..inflelity" and .semi-infidelity, can not
withstand us.
Judge Benton. presden: moderator. how
ever, in closing the debate, put it into a
nutshell. Said, he We are able to deduce
two conclusions from the discussion: first,
that men may differ honestly in opinion;
second, that if we all do right and keep the
commandments of God, We will get to
heaven. Aud We said Amen.
Thus | have attempted TO give The sub
stance of the debate with its concomitants,
and / submit it in hope that it may do great
good. AS for the truthfnlness of the above
representations. have only to appeal to the
citizens of Richmond, who heard the dis
cussion. And my prayer is that the best
IF results may follow it. and thai truth may
Sc in all places. and at all such times As sue
cessfully defended.
"a J. HOBBS