New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-02-06
NETWORK DAILY qRlBUNE, WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY g. 1861


20 know But, Sir, they Would not be safe, NAM
tan under existing legislation and IN he present con
diion Of relations between the United States ana the
seeding States that it would he most hazardous 10
forward remttanees between the seeding States ana
the remaining States of the Union. Mr.. Speaker, IA
heve already remarked, wOud not vote Tor TINS AZ
measure of coercion but just 70 far as you can
the operation Of your laws upon the eeceoing S'acs
Won obyate the nece sy Of coercve measures aihnA-
lively pressed by the Government of the United STATES.
Pending these disastrous events would conhne the
Government of the United States strictly, az far as
it is possible do if consistent with the acts OF
the seeding States Themselves. 10 deiensNe
line of policy over the public property, over the pubic
vessels, which are indsputably ours and especially
over those places where jurisdiction has been ceded 20
us,by the Southern States themselves. There wopld
maintain sricty defensive attitude, and would de.
fend it firmly, would defend it adequately would
defend 1t without yielding to menaces or to al
coercion from any quarter whether it proceeded from
the seeding States themselves or from the allies they
| NAV seek elsewhere. Applause. But with reference
20 affirmative OF coercion, to be adopted on
the part Of the Government of the United States then
would draw broad and clear line Of distinction; and
especially In respect of laws the enforcement OF
! which only be accomplished through the aid
of the magstracy. OF these Sir, the postal laws form
distinct class. With respect to the revenue laws,
they are not administered by internal machinery, at
least TO any considerable extent. They must be en-
forced as Gen. jackson proposed to enforce them by
ship Of war lying off the harbor aud not encroaemng
upon the territorial jurisdiction OF seeding Stale.
POSTAL service cannot be enforced, and adequate pro-
lection given the mails without placing within the
territorial jurisdiction of seeding State the armed
power of the United States. l speak now
! especially with reference TO the absence OF
any power to protect the properly or en-
! force the laws by means OF the Magls-
tracy. The United States Judges have resigned,
and you cannot get jury in these Seeding STATES that
would convict man Of an oeuse against ajuIsdielon
which they repudiated Wherever the flag OF the
United States cannot CO. wherever the Jurisdiction Of
the United States is repelled and iDsued would ho'
trust the property of the United states III Tie money,
if the bullion in the Mint at New Orleans Is not safe
from spoation ii they are willing in Louisiana to lu
tate the Mexican policy Of spoiation upon property,
how Sir could you inrust your mails with tue prop
ery Of your citizens, with the dispatches OF your "oN
er1iment and with the property, also, Of the Govern
ment within the same jurisdiction. You cannot DOT
! Mr.. HINDMAN-Will the gentleman under the
head of spoation be kind enough TO explain the re-
cent proceedings in New-lork City, in which tie
property Of Southern men was pillaged!
Mr.. SICKLES-l have yet to learn that the arms TO
which the gentleman alludes belong 10 Southern men.
No claimant has appeared, and am glad TO know It,
Mr.. ToOmbs, am reminded sent a Geographic dis
patch of an extraordinary charactey to the Mayor of
New-York, 20 which he sent reply equally exlHlor-
binary lIaughter.l II | had been the Mayor OF
New.York / would have sent different answer
10 the message Of VI. Toombs, and especially IN
view Il the menace and sting which was at the
bottom Of IL for he told the Mayor OF New
York that It was important Tor New'loiK Imi
he should know whether the act was jueilhed
The loyalty Of New-lOrk to Southern dtzens
should not have received that insult from Mayor Wood
II had been Mayor Of New-York, would, in the
mime Of New-York, have repeedi II, and have sent THIS
answer: ." The AUTHORITIES Of New-hork had no ihioi-
nation whether those arms were to be need III an
nsurrection Of the character which John Brown inl-
ated or the character which the State OF GeoTgaln-
ated when before her secession she sezes upon the
fors and the Of the United States; bat in either
event they were believe for the purposes Of ln-
-urreciion and therefore, in preservation of the public
peace, seized them, and will hold them against all
Corners" Applause IN me galleries. wo9ld nave
cent that answer 20 Mr. 1oombs; and ] regret
that the Mayor Of Ncw-York was 80 unmind!nl 10
what due 10 the State, and TO his own
position 10 have sent the craven answer he did.
But g. the current OF nv argument ~ The point
where yielded to the interruption OF my friend from
Arkansas Let not at crisis like this, conionnd
ideas. Let Ms not confuse our proceedings by
failure 20 discriminate carefully between what we
NAV rghtfnlly do in the discharge Of our duty, and
what would he cruel and unwise TO do in yielding to
FASHIONS To administer this Government, TO protect
lie property TO guard tie mails to hold the scales
/ Of Justice even and true ever, az between those
who and those who not 10 harmony, can never
be coercion but is the simple and honest discharge OF
our sworn duty. To that extent would go, no fnr-
tber. The President OF the United States has solemny
announced TO the people Of this country thai wil not
adopt the policy Of coercion. II has not been adopted
The Congress Of the United States In the presence of
events which all concede to be revolution has abs'aned
from any and every measure Of coercion Yet We have
response To this policy which only subjects ne TO The
charge Of being pusiunimons became II Is conceiyedu
iorbeaance, IN futernal affection, in the hope that
peace may be iestoed for II we were 10 accept dec
laraon that there shall be no appeal except TO tie law,
then Sir none of would like 10 be held responsible
for suffering series Of events which have reduced THE
Government, If il Were powerless indeed TO prevent
them 10 escape their consequence 10 CONDITION
among the nations Of the earth contemplate az that
which II bas heretofore occupied has been lofty Now,
Sir there Las been coercion attempted Tn the con-
trary, every pledge expressed and implied, so far ns
this Government is concerned, has been against 1t aud
advantage has been taken OF those pledges aud VI that
policy TO degrade flag TO commit acts Of spoGtiOn
upon property, 10 repudste our jurisdc,io 20 en-
able the Ca6netsof Europe to cit in council az they are
sitting al this moment, not upon the " sick man, lur'
KEY, which they have had before them for years but
uIon the paralyz and impotent United States Of
America and TO determine what they Wilde, and what
share they will appropriate TO themselves the dsm9
bermept Of the Confectionery, and In the confessed Ad
demonstrate inability Of the Government Of the Inlied
States make its jurisdiction respectable and respected
would not like TO be held responsible, one member
Of this body for such state Of things. II did not de,
endand Justify the forbeaance OF the Government and
nv own silence 10 this hour upon the hope that suCh
forbearauoe, while it might subject TO misconsrnc
ton elsewhere, while II might bring pain TO the hear,
Of every patriot in the land, would lead 10 peace and
reconciliation and that good would come ont ot n.
Now SIR, with reference to the suggestion of the dis
tingnished gentleman IRON North Caroins deprecang
the application of such measure as this upon his
Sate-hs loyal his noble, hs gallant State or to the
State Of Maryland, any other State which yet Ie-
mains within the UniOn where we have Courts where
we have magisiracy, where we have the means OF
enforcing the laws legitimately and regularly. Why,
sir, venture 10 say that 10 man in this house would
be guilty Of the ohense and the insult TO the loyalty OF
those States Of thinking Of such proposition In its
application il can only be extended III the nature Of
things, TO States which have by their own solemn act
repudated our jurisdiction and deprived w Of all posi-
bic means Of protecting our property except by force of
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