The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1861-02-02

been informed, and believing the election under which
the admission Of Kansas into the Union seemed 70 him
evident that the right representation does not
that election II seemed 70 him quite es's sh smso
Kansas only becomes entitled to member OF the House
at the time when duly admitted into the Union. II
seemed him. for the stated that tho election
was mere nuy therefore he wanted the question de-
cided whether the people Territory may proceed to
the election OF representative to Congress- That was
his sole object He aware in numerous instances,
and even Senator'S chosen by the
people Of Territory before admission AZ STATE AMI
allowed to take bis scat Immediately aiter admission;
but the fact such have occurred does not settle
the question of right matters not what the precedens
are.
The question simply, has Territory right under
the constitution TO elect represe TO CongressI for
a: the time the gentleman from Kansas was elected Kan
Mr.. GROW, (rcp) Of Pa, called Mr.. Hindman TO the
Of his State Akansas and recited the opinion
minstraton to chow that the machinery Of State gov
eminent may be erected before the new government
goes into operation and has been held from the begin
ming Of this government by providing all necessary ma
chnery to operation the day Congress egazes
the action Of the people organizing it.
81 the Of
as well as those of California, Minnesota Oregon and
divers others The admission Of Senators and representa-
tves elected prior to the act OF admission has been al
lowed Immediately on the passage Of the act Of adm,-
sion the precedent did demonstrate its rghsfu
The question was ought the precedent set 70 be FOL
Mr. GROW remarked that be had made no objection to
the gentlemans remark but only indicated what had
The matter here ended
A TWENTY 1--WE MILLION LOAN mII~
Mr. snEFM sp Of ono from n the Committee on
by the conditioned the finances, and might well be
passed II authorizes the President before the LIST
Of July next TO borrow $25 900 000 much thereof
in his opinion the exgency Of the public service may
require the TO meet the current demands and re-
deem the Treasury notes.
Mr.. EDWARDS, (rep) OF n H., presented memorial
from the constitutional Union party OF New Hampshire,
Mr.. HNpMAN asked the gentleman whether that party
was the Bell Everett party; il not, what was itY
Mr.. EDwARDS-I suppose 1t was the Bell Everett party
prior to the election. Qaughter.)
The resolutions were read They declare that the
slavery agitation should be disconnected from party poll
tics and not disturb the deliberations OF Congress- that
all State laws calculated to nudity those Of the federal
government should be repealed; that there should be
with or without slavery, as the people determine
there should be interference with slavery in the
States where the federal government has Jurisdiction
introduction of the slave trade between the States
that all sections should be maintained In the full enjoy
ment Of their constitutional rights fugtves to be re-
Mr. JouS CocRAsx, (opp) Of N. Y, inquired whether
the sentiments Of the resolutions had the gentlemans
political assenty
Mr.. EpwARps replied that he presented them in &C
cordance with his duty to the citizens Of New Hamp
shire and in to the question: sad large portion
did not meet his appreciation.
Mi. CoCHRANE-l am obliged TO the gentleman.
A WASHINGTON.
Mr. KnGoRE, tIep) Of Ind reported 6ni 70 establish
The memorial referred to the select committee Of
FIVE
ANOTHER PLAN or ADJUSTMENT.
Mr.. KELLOGG, rep.) Of H., before vote was
taken on the Recommendations Of the Committee
substitute He had been constrained to the present
owing to the disturbed condition Of the country
They joint resolutions proposing amendments 70 the
constitution to be ratified in the manner indicated by
that instrument, az follows
ARTICLE l3-That in all the territory held by the
and thirty minutes inSoSaary sevituae except cF the
punishment Of crims s prohibited while such territory
territory nov held south Of said neither Songrsss
Sac q DC s Union rsaon y virtue
sF
men, Be republican be admitted into lie Union an
persons held service and labor the
ARTICLE ~iha nothing in the constitution of the United
States thereto shall be- construed to
to interfere with The relation held service In
Sse h a relation sns nor n any
BY the Law Or the constitution Of such state and that this ar
every state in The Union.
M SSI ): :Ps. sss
authorize and empower Congress pass
@ Of so 10
hercrom TO the party to whom su,h service or labor
ARTICLE 6The emigration or importation Of persons held
ssy %sin ;, w. Unite, A. from
thereof, Is forever prohibited.
Mr. McClERSASp, (opp) Of H., happy to see such
proposition coming from gentleman whose relations
Mr.. LoyEJoY objected to the reception of the Joint
resolution especially after the remark Of his colleague
Mr.. KELLOGG did not hear the remark.
Mr.. McCiERSASp repeated II.
Mr. KELLOGG said in offering the resolution he wished
TO distinctly state that In view OF the dsturbei condition
hoping might avert an impending calamity No other
human being was responsible for II than himself II
ordered 10 be printed.
signed by 3s 900 citizens Of New York Referred to the
Select Committee OF Five.
Mr. snsKss, (rep) of Pa, asked for, and the House
passed, private bill for the relief OF widow who has
been starving for two years"
This remark produced general laughter.
DEFICIENCY hill.
The House went into Committee OF the Whole on the
state of the Union on the Deficiency bill.
Mr PorrIE, (rep) Of N Y, made speech against the
Chiriqui amendment.
The Committee rose.
The consideration Of the report Of the Committee of
Thirty three was resumed.
STRETCH HAMILTON CRISIS
Mr. HAMILTON, (opp) Of Texas in referring the ques
ton Of secession said that whether the Union was com
pact between the States whether IL should be regard
ed as the act of the aggregate OF all the States IL was
looked upon the Union both a constitution and
pact Every consttion compact, but the converse
was not so-lhat TO say, every compact was not
constitution. compact necessary toa constitution
and necessarily every constitution compact. He
did net whether that constitution was one
granted by despct act Of grace II neverthe.
less compact The rights guaranteed should be Oh.
served. Could be less when the people Of the United
States agreed to accept constitution formed by the
persons assembled for that purpose The government
thus formed supreme 10 the number and character
the powers given TO H. limited 10 the extent of its
sovereignty SO far as the rights reserved, but
pbsoute within the sphere Of the power con-
fcricd UPON IL AZ a government With regard
10 the powers conferred by the people the
SAes the powers thus reserved could be only such as
pre- existed before the formation Of the compact. But
would any say that they received power which
did not pre- exist at ALL and that could not have existed
before the formation OF the compact To assume such
would be the widcst theory OF these Wild times They
said that they reserved the rat o secession hut he con
tended that such right existed anterior 10 the cons
tuition because in fact there State that could &c
cede Then could be said that the right OF secession
Of the reserved rights Of the states whom did