, 1861-10-16
cR0Bs EXAMINATION oFzTHE
=. AA1Uh.
THE MAYOR GIVES: !: HIS
OPINIONS. 80
Testimony cfEx-Mayor Ioha went@
Worth,


The latter wanted 10 know Il The claim was Hight,
sId Iit would be paid; Twas surprise that Colby
uons, when l had given hin my opinion previous
ted Ineke5 M t1o4ghi1 gi IT. IT. 81 an;9st and IN
jut11y liable for the claim; there have BEEN othern
In Tome aekirg about the merits Of the c1aiEl.
Cross Erdn.anaticn: made the charges against
9Ef h s u eaee
talked with AID. TittsEorth to-day about them;
may bsye mentioned the thing in the CoancIl
Titisworth how b. was induced to sign paper
recommending the payment Of the Western Ave
nue. claim after he had replied, stated that 1
de1man in inducing him to eig1 that paper; I eaid
didn't think that Alderman Tittsworth knew
what he was doing when he signed it !; I knew
consider it proper to approach Alderman Tits
worth upon this matter When he had to els IL
judgment upon It
The Mayor declined answering at first, without
Masking an explanation, ae it wou1d put him in
falee position. Mr. Aver charged that the witneeB
had tie right Of explanation before answering it.
Mr. Van Buren intended to daguerreotype the
Whole thing, aud claimed he had the right to know
bis feelings AID opinions.
Titntss Ttsumed-I can't answer yes or no
without placing myeelf in q fa1se position; have
had no other conyersations except With Aid,
Nests estimate last evening; gave him history
Of the whole transaction think he had been here
on one evening when this matter cauae up: didn't
suppose anything about impressions to be created
Gu lis mind l deemed the conversation proper;
had nc object IN It; did not thinkit would pro
Guce a1y un1ayorab!e 1mPres eionB; my personal
Kest tbat ccbys transaction wa wa 1ascay h ~ snd
!hink 20 stu; don't personally admire Colby; I
did not advice Ven Nest to get him indicted;
fnbstance Of my remarks Vas that considered It
very rascally operation, hut don't remember what
saia about Grand Jury; think Vaa Mast in his
I uEea; I don't remember of nv ether co..
VIBRATIONS within two weeks; think within
three weeks ! told Cobb I considered Colby
cSpee agsn sk esEd a
ing; hardly think 1t justifable to exert an inn.
e1cesagainst him by Misrepresentation, bnt I cer-
t2in1y DO bg Ps9nEa sation of facts; you ask
propose to give them uEless can give them On all
subjects; made the charges IN writing without
Ayer; iaTe taEsd Will viii ~ i broth:1. f II \ New
berry, AID Mr.. Tint ham about them sinc= were
inside: made complaint, before the Grand Jury
agatnst him fer being swinder; I was not q wit
ness; don't k1.ow whether they indicted hinl; had
no conversations about making the COM
p!aint it was made after the conversation
with Van Nest; before the Grand Jury 1
had a conversation with the District At
torney about the complaint; had no conversations
rocm; do rot to-day know who the Grand jury
we're Euow Mr. Wilder, but have Il, yer had any
eo1safsa13on WIN m nm a1ous me mayer t A nsgsf st
matter; Sisapproved of colby7s course before the
InYes1ieaticn Commi,tee in some par;icularg
his exniration Of 9fice. Msssrs. Tnroop" Church
and Witbeck; had conversation with Went
WG1th about them I thfnS nothiog was said about
ment Of Com5troller: 1 hsye frequently been
T10nestgd 10 a. 70 Nv nj mbers Of the Com
mon Council; think a resolution was
interest Ct lie eit1 to retain Waid; knew the1e
vas an auimosf1y aeainst Ward. and Knew t t5at
it proceeded from 6is refusal to allow some I'D
Ward 10 he as aa honcst. nprjcht mau % thiaI
the n1,3,ft1n RI The Conrci g.,rtfy nf res,.ct
Ar hytr obfrctpd to The course or one.t,oniog
teitg pureued by Mr. Van Buren.
M Van Burca ron.erde7 IT. 7ras cnnnetcnt tn
show The fsslngs q witnese as teatng bis cred,,
made the cherce fr,1n rindictfye motives IN snn.
pseas IL quiry eoncerzing Mr.. Ward.
.+1aas ~ tha New ta,.asss ~. ra,h. 49, z,s
not think 1t competent to prove the motives oi
.h trn+6 r.1sit1 ~ 4se .na1ssa % Nv oA1'is'e s ~
no 1toe. VI ta4s1s W 'ae snns.o.
The thaaI sa1a ne "as IN ennafzass ss1ng carcum
stances to decide questions, but he supposed the
comm On eense Of The Council would dictate what
~ae proper. &c "onln BLOW the counsel to Ct
| On if they would Only shorten proceedings,
- wines z; Rssumea-l !, dIa II, not appoint Comp
l1.1 - 4hfp T. ~ LIS naris pdsseo
nar9 ~ ci,cnmstancea ia dtFsTninid ~ rsta3E
ths conp5Eoesa was tsaaS3stsd to flo nsx
~ fG1 49, III ~ rafeenr ~ ~ eG y
cnmntpoIjer at tbn meet,no ~ ~ anpmm4t KIN
Didn't tbink there Nas anything in re charge Q
aa innI;pu og ~ snroa eha,ee % - ateh wv,
Gat ha aor Tst Z M
Foer aIa Gt ne T. he e. had ths
e1 4 .aa ~ s,e oans
See5 tS;mt II taoe al Eoho IN aId ~ ~ Sasa a;
them q e A3ds l Holden sna = B9tt5oEa snd sPRoat
osher rfoTges # GnShv lad hearH thts rhaeu -,
made be!ore Committee, should have thoag6
T hls duty to make I. i il placed reliance q s,
coneider it hir dntv: was 9nemher NJ tha Inrez
tirstinr Committee: vas : annointed last. + sno
eetted he IronTiety at hayfnp fhe Gonniftea ~
6ointed and "a 1as ~
fiontdin conversation that if1e wsntei i me- to .
osthe Committee IWo1ld Do 90 "a apa 20 as faS a. tB
hs ths1ees s1a ts naSs a;na @ Masu 4 ef
time Of The Tesoiution szas oH the MaTos. aide
Ididn't believe that they wonld hays con1Tme 1ne
, a richt to do 50 i n1eased in tfat Mi icn.ar
ttere Wae an Ifdayit nre=ented n fnre The NV
tigation Committee ID reference ~ to the I sms1 ,l
| papcr.'' (The MaFor read. hy rennsst- The an 4.
TIE eaS Was no ehsF p
writing HEOut the nyerrerainffro+ fnfhv safd h
would nut i; IN writing. Int he fffd not In a..
, | reference to the "Smnft paperH be maae fe,
RsenminaaFy r fems.es ana - 1hsa presented the doet
Was Justified. snnnose n making the chsr,oe hs.,
Ism eatisfed that fciftions names were n1aes
| mon fhe nav rolls fwn ~ tive yessa a1n na ~
thst The mn,;sv 1ras na;d m tbaI. ~ ~ e. e.
| had hee1 rohhon ~ -vsa ontirni,, -n ~ ~
inrest5ra4a ~ S,stto- "o9 S,,o f.opss1 ~.
-anaxa1t a. a. ~ n!n..@A Ieaa ea5os 1eaa u
/ fegge.S - tAe ~ nsstetn t3seH4e mattes " 1g4uee
aEu tAo tnat ne supposed ne 1aa seen mem oeio!
ne msae Inc charges( 1etlk think AID Colby ha
not just claim On the city; an told and belfer
that the Hlfnoie Stone CcRl and Mining Compan
G Gid great deal Of that work bsfnre 1t was orde
ed with no idea Of getting pay for 1t, merely ft
= their own convenience they thought it would b
agood idea to make the City pay for it, and accart
tnsly got an ordinance through the, Council t
that eftct; they had no contract to do the #orl
stead of matchmaking Oh the east side Of tt
. street they macedam zed On the west aide, out
c the City limits, and the cost to them was on1
TeseE OF elgIs hanarsa aeiaIe; on these gr,und
II The pspe!s were sont cTdence that iSn nr ha
been done /; .o,h- MtyoE by request fead a 1ecou
13eLcatsoh tssm members q the Council that t
the aa1oheqs r 1he Gnnnc1 shp psd aio,,s
tie communication are respectable gentlemen
1nRpose; had no knowledge q ny o"a thas Al
I.p3 3 tee ai5 tAai ~ lAuuEs