Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-06

tee c.nnot change it, cannot alter 1t, ana 'he
only mo,le 70 obtain relief, for the gentleman
from Princess Anne or any Other 6'elnoer, Is "
end.ayor to get the rule changed, when ~n go
hack into the Convention. The Chair trusts,
therefore, now, that all debate upon the qusS-
ton will cease, and that the Commute VIII pro.
coed to vote. The question will be upon the
third resolution of the Committee.
The third resolution was then reported u
f,ilDws
THE choice Of iunctlonaries OF common
Government established Tor the common Gooa.
for the reason that they entertain opinions anu
avuw purposes hostile to the institutions o!
some of the States necessarily excludes the
people Of one section from participation III tue
administration Of the Government subjects the
weaker to the domination Of the stronger sec
ton, leads to abuse and is Incompatible with
the safety OF those whose interests are I'M
peril!ed the formation, therefore, CT geographi.
cal or sectional parties III respect TO tedeFal
politics, is contrary ~ the principles on when
our system rests, and tends to its overthrow
NJ. Wlsr-Before the vote is taken upon
that proposition, | move that the COMMITTEE
rise, so that We may 80 into the Convention
with view Of re-considering mis- resolution
restricting debate.
The CnAIauAS-The motion would not be
now in order, until after two clock, the time
fixed for the recess.
Mr. WIsE-Suppose the house were OH tire:
The CHAlgMAN-Wc would protect ourselves
the best way VIC could.
The question was then taken Oh the third
resolution, ard it was agreed 10.
The fourth resolution Was then reported as
fellows:
The Territories of the United States constl
tutc Il trust to be administered by the General
Government, for the common benefit Of the
people Ui the United States, and any policy IN
respect to such Territories calculated TO confer
greater benefits on the people Of one part OF
the United States, than Oh tn" people OF smother
part, is contrary TO equality ami prcJnd!clal to
the rights Of sune for whUSe equal beutht the
trust WAS created. If the equal admission ot
slave labor and free labor into any Territory,
excitvs uniriendly conflict between lie Sys.
tens, i far partition VI the Territories ought
IL he made between them, aud each system
ought to be protected within the limits assign
ed To it. BY the laws necessary for It's proper
deYelrpement.'
Mr.. WlSE--I move again that the Committee
rise. Do understand the THAR as making
the same decision?
The CnAIRNAS Tho Chair considers that
the motion cannot be entertained a. this time.
Mr. WIsE-l appeal from the decision Of
the Chair.
The CmAlRMAS.-On Saturday, the ESD Of
March, the Convention adopted tie following
resolutions:
Resolved, The! on and after Monday next
and until further ordered. this Convention shall
be called to order at ~ o'clocE, \. W., at half
past 10 Shall resolve itself into Committee Of
the Whole, upon the reports from the Commit
tee on Federal Relations; AZ = O'Clock said
Con:mittue u the Whole shall take recess
until clock, when it shall resume its s.s-
sion"
Tie gentleman from Princess Anne has
moved That the Committee now rise. The
Chair, upon 4 duo Interpretation Of this rcsu-
luton, und III OBEDIENCE ~ the order Of the
House, overrulcS the motion OF the gentleman
from Princess Anne rs out Of order. From
the opinion Of the Chair the gentleman from
Princess Anne has taken IN appeal, and the
question now is, shall the decision Of the Chair
stand as the Judgment Of the House?
Mr. Wisg-Mr. Chairman, the Convention
passed that resolution to be the law of the
Committee until the further order OF the Con-
vcnlion. Ny motion nos is, that the commit.
Tee rise, in order that it may go back TO the
Convention 10 obtain further orders upon this
construction; aad | submit it to tie conlnon
SENSE Of tins body, whether the motion that
have made to 20 back INTO the ConrentiOn and
take order upon the question is inconsistent
with the order Itself: Ii does seem to me SO
plain that | know not how to argue il. 1t seems
That, according to The construction of the Chair.
from the hour we go into the committee OF the
Whole under all circumstances, until the Con.
ventlon, Of its own motion, shall order other.
wise, we are obliged to sit here, debate, "ote,
or do nothing, until two o'clock comes. Now,
take it, the common sense and practical view
of the matter Is this-,hc same body Of meE
constituting the Convention which constitutes
the committee that whenever the committee
find that the rule is not practical, is not just,
is not equal to the members Of the body, that
they can rise, and so report 10 the Cenvrntloa
and the Convention can SO amcEd it as -
make it just and equal, fair and pract-
Cal I do insist that il IS impossible for the
members Of this Convention to represent their
constituents, it, out OF 1852 men, but one man
cau be allowed TO state objections TO PROPOSE
tons that it is worse than the suppression Of
Irec,ivin Of speech. You are now on the 4ih
Section OF the first report, which contains II
sections; you hare then SECOND report which
contains eight sections, thus leaving eighteen
sections yet to be acted upon; and in tho very
lrontispcce IF the report, before you begin to
sec the middle Of it, let alone the end Of it,
You have adopted rule, which does not allow
objections, however reasonable, to be made
t" any proposition of these tweu:y.tw sections,
embracing many pages of an octave pamph-
lei; You allow no objections 10 be made, how
ever sound, after objection, however unsound,
may have been made by one man. | sub
nit it, in the face Of their constituents, 20 this
Assembly, whether any body Of men can ue-
i5c:ate i'll justice to themselves, or, what is Of
much more Importance, in justice TO their con-
stltuents, under such IL rule ns this. Seeing
that il is so outrageous III its application nn.
jGst to US, unjust to our constituents, | ask
this Committee tn report it IT, the House, in
order that the House may take better orders
upon the subject.
Mr.. CAgLILE-l rise IL u question of order.
| Submit, whether it be consistent with the
rules which the Convention have adopted for
tue government Of the Committee, that queS.
tiGIl U. OTCer CAL DC TilScu III SDInlhlltSe,
cided by the Chair. an appeal taken from the
decision Of the Chair and that appeal discussed
without any limitation whatever as to debate,
when the Convention has expressly instructed
the Committee, that it shall only tolerate dc
butte ior ten minutes on the proposition upon
which the Committee is required TO vote
The CHAIHA4S-The Chair ovcrrules the
question Of oder which the gentleman from
lIarrison, (Mr. CARi.l;.E) makes. This is
privileged question. All decisions of the Chair
are privileged questions, from which appeals
lie, and on alsuch questions there is no limit u
debate.
Mr.. CAkLILE-rhr result then is, that upon
questions raised in the manner in which this
has bter, Unlimited debate is to uriSe, and the
order o the Convention is never to be %
served.
The CnAIgMAH-- There is no limit 10 definite
Oh IN appeal taken from the decision Of the
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