Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-12-13
VOLUME LV!ii.-NUMBEK 20

not intended to control the Governor, hut .
Council which he is bound 10 consul. upon ~
Executive acts. We have said distinctly tka:
this Council cannot control the Executive; SO
that the difficulty suggested by the gentleman
from Bedford (Mr. GoopE) 4 Il exists any
where, cannot exist in The minds Of the C0an-
ell. The President Of that Council addressed
10 this llousc communication, saying, that
to make them an Advisory Council in the
sense indicated would be to make them
an Executive Council. \ committee was ap-
pointed to consider anl report what, in their
opinion, were the duties and the power "f the
Council! ani they reported that The object IN
appointing the Advisory Council VAS H.: -
contro! .hY Executive, but merely 10 co!:SIt
with him.
AI-. SrErn.-i WIS a member OF the commit.
mittce With the gentleman from Char"i:r,
;Mr BorLp!S, To whcin was referred the rtSo.
luton in reference 10 Z d. tinitnH Of the p0"-
CTS ,nd duties Of tie Advisory tOunci,.
understood the object el the application
Of the President Of the Council was 10 &C: IN
explanation as to what the ul,ject Of the Uci..
vention was in appo:ntE: thst G0rac!l. The
sole duty Of the committee was 10 explain the
ordinance creating the Council, and sucl was
tho understanding Of the committee, as IS.
certaincd from its members, as we'll rs Of tho
Convention, So lar as | coul,? learn from con-
ycrsation with several members. So that the
genera! view as to the duty cf the committee
was to explain the ordinance creating the
council, and no. TO inquire what should be tic
duty Of the council in certain contingencies.
But since that, understand it is the desire
Of Inc members themselves that there should
be some changes made in tho powc:s conferred
upon the council.
1t is now asccrtaimcd ;hat the duties dc
rolved upon the Governor ana Cuu1c!! arc so
oaerous that these four gentlemen are not able
to discharge them. Hence necessity has
arisen for TWO additional members. Suppose
question Of great importance were /" arise,
anc. the three members OF The Coinci! were
on one side and the Governor o', tie o.hc:
who was TO govern? If the question a'as psi:
to me- would say the majority oI the Codn-
Gil should control the Governor. | think wc
ought to extend the powers Of the Council, SO
far Is in matters OF difference arising between
the Governor and Council to give majority
Of the latter more than M advisory power.
am satisfied that committee ought to tc ap-
pointed, and that the Governor and Council
Should be consulted upon the subject.
Mr.. T. GREGORY, Jr., Of King "i::la'H.--l
understand this to be question 81 mere phTs.
chi capacity. We have learned that III" pre@t:'t
Council - incapable Of dscharsing IT." dts
now dcvcIviHg upon them, from physical ina.
bility, and not from any dis:rust of their own
mental powers. 1t is therefore asked that tS:e
Council be increased.
I ofI It,,c,, : \ ini. trT
in the legislation Of this hcdy with reference
10 this Council, and understood n !Ae time
the general opinion OF this tinor 10 DC, i''st
this was 10 be al Advisory C6uncl-one which
By 10 possibility caull c1aLro' The action Of
the Executive, but an: wn!rn could merely
advise the Exrca.ivc urGn e.! MATTERS relating
to his duty.
presume ;ha! the Executive a:.h the ConA
ell will keep record Of their proceedings, and
probably Of the votes which they may cast
upon any questions in respect to wE!ch there
may be any conflict of opinion betwr"n them,
so that the country may understand hos thsy
voted
We have learned that it is necessary ;nr the
purposc Of dischargins cf!icientl" TIC duties OF
the Council TO add to lis number. aui dis.
posed to consent to that increase, especially as
i understand it is demanded by the sD!e gen
tleIncn who now compose that council.
For this reason, sir, ! am opposed to the
resolution OF the gentleman from Bedford (Mr.
GooDE,) and move 20 Is" j: upon the table.
The Pxrs,DEST-Th Chair is OF opinion
that that would csrry The ordinance OF the
gentleman from Richmond with it.
Mr.. GxEGoEr--I withdraw the motion to
lay on the table, and call the previous 4ues-
ton upon the resolution.
Tee call vas sustained, and the main lncs.
ton ordered to be put.
.lr. .JoHSsToS, of Lee aud Scott desire
to make an inquiry of the gentleman from Bed
ford, whether MS resolution is an independent
proposition or substitute for the ordinance?
Mr. GooDE.-I offered it as an independent
The question Was then taken By count
on The resolution, ard resulted, ayes 81, noes
35-no quorum.
The President made count Of the House,
and ascertained that there were &3 members
present.
Mr.. Goopg.-I call for the yeas and nays.
The call was sustained, and the vote being
taken by yeas ard nays, rcsultcd-yeaS ~,
nays 44-as follows:
TEAs-AmbIcr Aston, J. Barbour, Elow Boyd, Branch
Bren Cahe!l. Campha' Csperton, Cr rCman. Dorman nn
John ioodc Isbel Peter c. Johnston L.ake, McConas'
Macfarland, Marye, Morton N.'son scIard.nn, kves'
"llsm Scott Se.we, Sharp, Speed, spu'ock, suther
lin, Tredway, Nickhlin, Hisnn--3I
SArs--Alfrel 81 Barbour, Blasey, Bo'tseau, Eo'st,
uouldin, ChanOlss, CapE,aa, Conn R"be!; . Conrad
is Evh[am r. liaIl iisrSe, Hsinena iiocomne ol-
lsay Hun:on Ki!by LawsaG, Marshall Mnett, Morris.
Moore, Sebie prenun, pugh Randolph, R0Oc T. SCOT,
Shsev Slaughter A. H. H. stuart SrauEc. rAylor Thorn
tom Robert n. Turu--, Frankla r. Turus-, "tsian',
Woods, John Jsnney.-'i.
Mr. MONTAGUE, whcE his namo was called,
said: As my name is somewhat connected
with the matter before the House, would ask
to be excused from voting either upon this or
the ordinance.
The House agreed to excuse linn.
The PRESIDENT The question EOT rcciIrs
upon the adoption Of The ordinance submitted
by The gentleman from the city Of Richmond
{Mr. RASDoLrH)
Mr.. TURNER, OF Jackson. Upon that cali
the previous question.
The call was sustained, and the main Qucs'
ton being put, rcsuitcd--aycs III, noes 30.
SO the ordinance was adopted.
Mr.. IIARrIE beg leave to offer thc follow
ing resolution
Resolved, That the term ol service 81 the
members Of this Convention snail terminate
on the 4th Thursday in May nezt, md that
on that day All election shall DC held for dele
rates to a Convention To bo called together
upon the proclamation Of the GoSernor-thc
members TO be elec!ed according TO the PROV
sions ci the act of Assembly convcning the
present Convention.
Mr. DORMAS-l make ! point Of order upon
that resolution.
We have rule which prohibits any mem.
Der from voting upon question in which nc
is personally interested.
The PKrstpENr.-I over rule The point Of
order.
Mr. HARvIE.-l was Of opinion, sir, and 80
stated before this House went into secret scs.
Sion, that it cugh: 10 ADJOURN sine de when
ever it would adjonro. Nothing has occurred
since H. at time 10 charge that opinion | AIN
nov a. was then, Of opinion that this Con
velllion should 60 back 10 tie psoplc and re-
i