East Saginaw courier. (East Saginaw, Mich.) 1859-18??, 1861-04-04

tensively, Mt the republicans, Tor aoand-
oning the "doctrins" of the campaign.
He maintained that they had hooked his
thunder. He said:
Since the war policy has been SO gem
orally disavowed by Senator'S on that
side of the Chamber, and peace has been
declared to be the policy of the admins
tratien, il seems that | was not so far
wrong when l incurred the disploasure of
so many Senators on account of my inter
probation OF the inaugural. For it seems
to be generally conceded now that no re-
venue is 10 be collected unless Congress
makes it the duty of the President to do
it; no ports nre to be blockaded unless
Congress makes it the duty of the PresI-
dent to blockade them; no military force
is to be used unless Congress shall re-
quire it to be done, and provide the
means; and that nothing is to be done
that leads to war. This is very good
policy-a much wiser and better policy
than | had expected or hoped for from a
republican administration. L do not know
that | should have made as great efforts
to defeat them if thought they would
have acted with So much wisdom and pat
riotism.
Mr.. Clark-You did not defeat them.
Mr.. Douglas-No; nor would L have
made as great effort to defeat them.
Mr.. Olark-You did us no harm.
Naughter.) i4I'
Mr.. Doug las-If | did not defeat you,
il was not y-fault. used my best et-
forts to do it.
Mr.. Clark-You could not quite come
it.
Mr. DouGlas-I could not quite come
| it, and you see the consequences. Seven
! States arc out of the Union, civil war is
! impending over you, commerce Is inter-
rupted, confidence destroyed, the country
going to pieces, Just because l was una
Die to delert you. No man in America
believes these consequences would have
resulted, i'll had been successful IN my
efforts to defeat you You can boast that
YOU have defeated me but you have de-
featcd your country with me. You can
boast that Won have triumphed over the
unity of these States, Your triumph has
brought disunion; and God only knows
what consequences may grow out OF 1T.
Mr. Howe--Do l understand the Sena-
tor that it is the election OF President
Lincoln, instead of some one of the other
cadidates, that has caused the dissolution
of the Union?
Mr.. Douglas-The Senator from Wis
consin can understand me just as | say.
If | had succeeded in defeating your par
ty at the Presidential election, thereby
rendering it certain that the policy OF
that party was not to be carried into Ell
feet, the people Of the Southern States
would have rested in security that they
were safe, and the Union never would
have been dissolved.
Mr. Howe--What policy is that?
Mr. Douglas--The policy Of sectional
party, that makes war upon the institu-
ton of slavery as it exists in 10 State of
the Union, and wishes to use the power
of the Federal government to cripple it
y ,.lereyer the constitution, according to
YOUR construction, does not forbid.
Mr. IIowe--That is the very point up
on which / want the Senator's testimony.
Mr.. Douglas-Well you have got it.
! Mr.. Howe-That the republican party
is not in favor Of any sectional policy.
1t is in favor Of maintaining the au-
thority of the whole people of the Union
over all questions within their jurisdic
ton. .
Mr. Douglas--That, Isuppose, depends
upon what is meant by the words section
al party" L presume there will be no
: controversy about the proposition that
the republican party rests upon the basis Of
Hostility 10 the Institution Of slacery ,clers
era' Il efists 10 tho extent that tie ooastita.
zion of Tie United States does not forbid go0'
Indifference. Under that construction Of
the constitution, you claim. the right to
} prohibit slavery in all the Territories of
the United States by act of Congress
Not only that, but you assert that, Con-
, gress is clothed with the power and duty
thus to prohibit, and that you are going
to use the authority of the Federal gov
eminent, to the extent of the powers con-
ferred by the constitution, according to
your construction Of it, to cripple, re-
strain, and destroy what you call the
slave power" in this country. That be-
ing your avowcd policy, tho southern
States, when you triumphod in tho Pres
dental election, came to the conclusion
that you were in earnest; that you had
not been proclaiming these principles to
the northern people for the purpose of
deceiving them into giving you support ;
and that yoa meant TO do Just chat you pre-
teade@ yOu t0OuH do. Hence they expect
ed that the moment you got power, you
would take up the bill of last year, which
you had passed through the House Of
Representatives, which was lying on the
table of the Senate--to repeal the slave
code Of New Mexico, and abolish slavery
in. that Territory; bit these southern people
did you 'crogg IN 'uRpOs9,g y0g INTENDED to do
any such tAiag. The result proves that you
did not intend to do it, and that the APP
prehcnsions of the. southern people were
not well-founded. It seems that these
professions of an intention to prohibit
slavery in the Territories were made
only for the purpose ofgetting northern
votes. .l, b;,.
When you had accomplished your OBJ.
iect, you abandoned all idea of passing
the bill, if, indeed, you entered it, for (edr
a mini a}yeJ,rb HE a1edce 0f he Union.