The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1861-01-08
INTERVIEW OF DUFF GREEN WITH MR
LINCOLN ON THE CRISIS.


WASHINGTON, Jan. 9, 1851.
Since my despatch Of the 4th have and conversed
with Duff Green upon the subject of his vs to Spring
field He speaks of Mr. Lincoln with much respect, and
believes that he sincerely wishes to administer the
in such to satisfy the South that
he win not favor emancipation in the District Of Colu
bia nor in the forts or dockyards in the Southern
States will he favor interference with the trade
slaves between the Southern States; but says that
having resided long in nonslavehoding State, Mr.
Lincoln has taken active part in opposing what he
terms the extension Of slavery into the Territories, and
believes that this constituted of the chief issues in
the late canvass, and Is therefore firmly and unequivo
caly resolved make concession this point unless
il be adjusted by amendment to the constitution Mr.
Lincoln 80 far his indicated by the journal
supposed to be advised by him. believes that secession is
rebellion and is resolved TO force 10 suppress and
punish it.
In reply to the inquiry Of what viii satisfy the South
Mr Green placed in his hands cory Of Mr. Crtendens
resolutions and said that he hnd been told that although
Mcssrs Davs, Of Mississippi, and Toombs, Of Georgia,
voted against theHe resolutions being unsatisfactory
them personally hcy had both sad in tho senate's COM
mitteo ihat Il rendered by the other side in good faith,
l. sass Of adjustment, they would accept them for
ihe south.
Mr. Green cndeavored to satisfy Mr. Lincoln that the
objection him, Of desire purpose 70 dissolve
the Union but earnest belief of the necessity of
ditional constitutional guarantees for the pro.
lection OF their rights In the Unioa. He said
The South believe that tho federal governments
a compact between independent sovereign states,
which, NJ the time OF their acceptance Of the con.
sttuton by refusing create an umpire with authority
70 decide questions arising between them and the common
government and reserving the powers not delegated
inhibited to them by the constitution, had each reserved
the right FOR self judge Of inractons Of the constitu
uon and OF the mode and measure of redress That at
the time Of the adoption Of the constitution all the states
held slaves That the constitution not only recognized
the right Of property in slaves but authorized the
nuance Of the African slave trade and made an express
provision for the surrender Of fugitive slaves that
one a, that time could have anticipated thai the time
would come when having sold their slaves 10 the South
and received pay them property, entitled 10 the
protection of the federal government the Northern states
would organise sectional majority and obtain the control
Of the federal pledge that tho wholein
uence and patronage Of that will be exerted in
continuous and pcrseverng effort to cmancipatc the
slaves who have much increased in numbers and In
value shat the Southern States cannot consent TO remain
as members OF government which is TO be permanent
y under the control OF sectional majority, organized
as political sectional party, on the basis Of warfare
on tho institutions OF the Souhthat the effect Of re
raining in such a Union win be the az II they
had boen . conquered provncc-that II they had been
conquered by the sword and held subject 70 the desotc
win Of sectional government that government could
impose no heavier or disgraccfu burdens than
be imposed upon them by the sectional government
which, having conquered them through the ballot box
wieos the sword o enforce their will ami compel them
pay the and TO bear Tho burdens imposed under
the Of laws passed by the nncxibe sectional
Northern majorityhat such condition OF the govern
ment dcprves the South Of a TINT is valuable In govern
men and subjects them 10 the caprice of the worst pos
sibe form Of dcspotsm--that he had become satisfied
that the members OF Congress who had beer elected
nembcrs Of that sectional majority arc using the pre-
that they arc oppoed 70 the extension Of slavery
n ie Territories a OF preserving their section.
al srgan e,on because they that n they rolnqush
.ha, prctcncc and permit the question Of slavery in
no Territories TO be adjusted, then the south win
become part Of the United States and have ts iue pro-
poriiona'c influence In the government; that Il then
be part Of the whole, instead ct bong 10 10 and
nust forever remain, mere sectional minority with
rights, powers influence in the government except
10 bear burdens and pay taxes long opposition 20
slavery made tho text OF political ascendency To
the suggc stion that the present agitation queted by
the excston Of The Missouri compromise ne to the Pa
cinc tho question viii be revived by attempt 10 alb
ecrb Kexco and TO extend the system OF slavery into
Mexico Mr. Green urged that since Cain slew his brother
he great question Of society had been what part Of the
Joint products Of capital and labor shall 60 capital
what labor that this question had resolved iscf into
two systems--wages labor and slave labor; that Mr.
seward had admitted this truth and had cndcavorcd to
array the North and the wages labor Of the North
against tho South by assuming that there Is an
rreprcssible conhct' between the two systems;
whereas the truth is that the conflict is not between
the systems but between tho capital and labor which
constitutes the system Of wages hbor and urged that
this truth In fofciby illustrated by the effect Of wages
labor IN England and wales and Of slave labor in the
south ha, after the conascaicn Of the nunneres and
monasteries which, unde he Papal system, were
charged with providing for the poor, that duty
was deyoyed upon the parishes; and the con
dict between capital which gave employ