Cleveland morning leader. [volume] (Cleveland [Ohio]) 1854-1865, 1861-03-26

10 the War Department during the time be mas
been IN command OF Fort sumter
Mr. Howe resumed his speech In opposition 70
Mr. Douries' resolution calling for Information
relative 10 Southern forts, 6c. ne shoWeu the
diiBculties Of procuring amendments 70 the Non-
stItution which Douglas ady0eatee as = leln,Soy
for the troubles, and argued that the recognition
~ the seeded States would not produce peace
and the issue Is between loyal citizens ana those
Who defy the authority OF the Government ne
snid the unlonists In the seeded states WeIe
horne down by tyranny from which they ought
10 be relieved he asked Douglas 20 unite Wuu WV,
him aud Republicans in a declaration that wS whllSS
we do not propose TO make war. We do NOT ih'euu
war shall be made on US. -.
Mr.. Douglas said Il the Var Depafiheht Haa
not in possession OF the iniormaiien lnis & Ieoiu ~
ton calls Tor, no harm could resels iIun ,t ~,
,,,,,,ld tena 10 altav public excitement lie sup
noeed there was no danger as TO fert sumter pnt
he 5ssircd 10 know whether Fort Fickens would
he held merely for irritauony heWhntea 70 hhu 1
Svbether We are TO have peace or war He be
iieved the policy 20 be peace. The threat 20 col
lect rev snue and blockade the ports without i9'
gal authority, was threat 10 violate the COhsv-
tuition Was it wise 70 delude the people mo
the belief that the Administration was gong 70
40 what the Constitution does not permtt
Mr.. Howe said the Senator insisted Oh sum
moning the people 20 provide means iol sestuBS "
the revenues and summons the aoNeFlueHs "
abandon The revenue.
Dougiss replied that he eudeavored during the
last session. when the Republicans were rushing
nnFOnNn a Dill 70 NNhAENI AuE NUNEAAN ~ fANf-aa
il, but they would not listen to the warning and
/ he tapprehendad that an extra session would DC
/ called 20 undo part OF what was recklessly ana
unanimously done ,,,---...,..
| speeches without impugning his motives or as
Mr. Howe said he had opposed the amendments
/ he proposed, with show Of ensuring safety ana
/ equality and restoring peace unity ana lh'erhi
/ ~ 70 the whole country.
| Mt. CLARK, iuterupdng, said he was one who
| chose 10 stand by the Constitution as tt Is, De
/ lieving It better than entertaining compromises.
] Mr. Douglas-NO doubt the Senator enter
tained that opinion, even II disunion was the in
! evitable consequence, aud would prefer war 70
amendments TO the Constitution .,,
Mr. Clark said be could judge Of the amend
ments only when It proposed and deprecated
Mr. Douglas-Yet when the question OF war Of
amendments was proposed, he understood ClarA
| to be against all compromises.
| M CLARK distinctly believed he could stand
/ on the Constitution better than anything else
and avoid var BY taking that position, ! NJ NJ
lime was not far distaut when the laws would b'
enforced all over the Union, without the use Q
Nh Douglas-StiH no one denies that sever
States have expelled Federal authority.
! Mr. CLARK enquired whether the Post Once De
partment did not run mails through those States
Mr. Douglas believed they did, but with tn
consent Of those States letters might be opened
Mr. Clark inquired whether the revenue eoul'
not be COZ 1cged on shipboard II Congress olothe'
the President with power,
M Douglas supposed they could; but he hai
been speaking Of laws as they are He regarde'
| this as an admission that the Republicans did no
mean TO collect revenue until the laws Wer
M CLARK wished Mr. Douglas 20 take the ad
mission as including anybody but himielf
Mr.. Douglas thought the admis ion so clea
that he might include all the Republicans in II
aud said the triumph Of the Republicans ha
brought disunion and God only knew what con
sequences were to grow out OF t.
Mr. Howe asked whether he understood tina
the election Of Lincoln, instead OF someooa
, else had caused dissolution OF the Union.
Mr Douglas said II he had succeeded in deteai
ing the Republicans, thereby rendering certai
that their policy wouldn't be carried out, th
| Southern people would have rested In security
and the Union would not have been dissolved.
{ Mr. Howe inquired what policy.
Mr.. Douglas replied sectional policy, hocaus
{ the Republicans make war on slavery as grea
political and moral evil.
Mr.. Howe denied that the Republicans were
. Douglas said The Republican party is base
= on hostility TO slavery. He replied to BrecklI
l. ridges argument that under the law as It no
e stands rs 70 every Territory, without exception
man can remove thither with his slave prQpert
; on equal terms with other property. The Rep1l
e licans, in organizing governments for hevad
Colorado and DaeOtah last session, did what the
had not done for twelve years before, and d
b / what they had for so long abused him IDougla
I for wanting to do. They did II from q sense
jnstice, when they got the majority The Onl
motive he had for being President was TO carr
out that policy. he gave the Repnblicsns cred
for adopting after defeating him. The SENATE
from Pennsylvania (IYilmot) had arrived he
: in time to see the Republicans repudiate the Wi
Z mot PrOviso, reject tbr corner stone Of the ter
q pie and come up to non-interventiOn and pop
J lar sovereignty.
Howe, in the course Of the debate, wished
E know if Douglas principle would have saved Il
/ Union, and the Republicans have adopted theT
4 why was there not peace2
Douglas replied, because the Republicans wou
r not acknowledge It, and kept the people in Il
9 dark
+ Breckinridge wished to reply to Douglas, bl
the Senate went into executive session and a
fOurned