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his chimers, He was ready 70 express i. De wish

were travelling far out Of their way 70 sdvse the res
sssnd.d 70 Kew Wspt ana The rS.uSss shoals 60 be
| would neverwiihdraw the troops from those posts
Mr. BRzcNNnpGn replied that the resolution advises,
existing circumstances, the withdrawal OF the
federal troops from the limits Of the Confederate states
He supposed that the resolution those points
because they were within the limits Of the state Of
| Florida IT, however, any Senator chose 10
amendment 10 exclude those points from the operation Of
fuI consideration He did not consider il essential 70 the
public peace that the troops should be Withdrawal from
Key West and rorugas and rather than hazard the de-
these points tball be excluded by the resolution It
seemed TO him that he must aid that no dis
| liked TO do co. because he still entertained . hope
/ Of reunion Of all the States. II there should
ultimately, unfortunately, be a permanent sepa,
the points held by the federal government within
the limits Of the Confederate States and from such other
states as may with them. He trusted that all
States will be reunited on the principles Of the old
tuticn. II this ahoud not occur, he would be unwilling
see those places retained on tho principle that Great
Britain holos Gibraltar and places IN other parts OF the
world-merely a. strategic military points,
Mr. RcE-rhe Senator having answered his question,
he said no would like 10 know whether IL IN order TO
move amendment excluding Key West and rortugas2
The CHAIR said that tho amendment not in order
Mr. Rcr remarked tha. II the seeded states were de-
termned remain out Of the uni0n he in favor Of
sI % y sOSS %oa aSe :m
reasonable for tho sake Of but they are not pos
session Of Key West and To,sug.s and never WI Sa
Other portions Of the country have an interest," in the1
and especially the commerce belonging to the North,
which win never yield those points. He would not 70
give them up under any circumstances
Mr. C,ARK, {rep) or N. H., hoped that the resolution
close Of the session and the resolution was taken up
it would be followed by amendments, and debate might
be opened and ro one could tell when It would stop
Mr. SIMMONS, (rep) Of r. l., said that il not pro-
per for them to stay here and debate when all were
anxious TO 60 home. He would not desire vote to be
taken the resolution without saying few words from
what had been uttered by Messrs Douglas and Brock
nridge. The country were satisfied what their policy
| would have been had they succeeded.
Mr. TEN EYcx, (rep) Of N j., opposed taking up the
resolution He did not profess to be very profound IN
matters Of law but he wanted TO conne himself 70 CUES
tions constitutional duty. He had provision
which justified the Senate or gave them the right TO ad
wise the President ON the subject He was little old
several departments distinct lie not that !:
their duty by law or precedent, TO volunteer their
advice to the President He was not disposed 10 proner
this advice, because II was none Of his business.
Mr. rHuMnuILs (rep) of H., object in rsng was 70 say
that in voting up the resolution he did not regard
himself committed ono way another In it's passage
Air. DouolAs, opp Of H. would vote to take up the
bring IL within the scope 1t ought to take.
lIe thought /, would be wise for the Pres-
dent to withdraw the troops from Fort Pickens,
fram Fort sumter. These were the only forts in the
Confederate States not occupied by the government at
tend to collisions but the resolution goes further. It
ADVISES the President TO withdraw the troops from all
points in the Confederate States The Confederate States
being o revolutionary government claim only what
they occupy. He was willing, under existing circum
stances that Forts Sumter and pckens should be given
up They local, and neither Of them protected
any thing but the bors which, being in possession Of
the revolutionary government we should not object to
letting them CO. unless intend to hold them basis
of military operations. There was no good in holding
these iorts they were sources of constant irritation
M as S hs
taking the resolution His vote must not be regarded
! as q test vote.
Mr. Bucuvapcr remarked that he did no assume
that this shall be test vote but suggested that y
might be regarded, although he preferred direct
vote the resolution As TO debate for several days
this pretcxt not TO take the resolution at all
presumed that the senators were prepared 70 vote
Mr.. CorrAMEn, rep) Of VI, remarked that the
Senators on the republican side had not ss,d anything any
plest opportunity for that purpose.
Mr.. WADE hoped the resolution would be taken up,
and there very little else do they should have
dircpssion He did not know what the administration
policy might be- but he entertained very strong opinions
and was anxious TO express them ne aia no. nsss.e
stances TO express their opinion We are ordinate
branch Of the government, and the Presidents ad
in the present that they should
their opinion in full not only to the President but 70 the
| people Of the United States He had concealment 70
make he anxious that this subject should receive
full discussion Seven States have gone out OF the
Union and are domineered over by a usurpation Tho
has been erected but military despotm trampes their
upon vindicate their rights and the constitution
clothes US with authority to do it.
| Mr.. RicH, (opp) o; Ind, commended the Senator
|
,iction That senator is in favor Of enforcing the
federal authority in every seeded State He was entitled
the thanks OF the country for expressing his opinions
We had reached point when VIC should advise the Pres
dent what should be his policy during the absence OF the
Senate There ought TO be no dodging lie thou snt the
ism 70 undertake TO enforce the federal authority In the
seceeed States.
Mr. Doorrrx understood that II expected that thu
Senate would adjourn to morrow. 1t was impossi
BILE 10 retain quorum here for debate, besides
there executive business TO be transacted
Mr.. CorIANyR denied the power thus 70 advise th,
President The constitution says that the President may
things by and WITH the advise and consent Of the
Senate. First relative TO the appointments and secondly
with regard TO treaties, and there the power ends.
Mr. BsnDcr Id did not see why they could not ek !,
possession OF all the facts, well as the country. An
opioon worth to the country than discussion
luton in order to give Blr Wade an opportunity IN
himself and he should take what ths. Senator had
said as indication Of what the policy 70 be pur
sued He about return home TO Oregon, and when
he reached there ten thousand questions would be pro
pounded 70 him Is 70 tne course ol 'ne ~
f he should tell them that be did not know they would
ask him what he was sent to Washington for daughter
He Of those who could not be persuaded that he
could make man his friend by thrustng bayouct int
his stomach dauehter( He repeated that the peopl'
Of the Pacific coast want the Information.
Mr.. CrA moved that the Senate go nte executive SEES
sion.
Mr.. BRrcuxHlpcE asked for the yeas and nsys bis
motion to take up his resolution He supposed that this
might be considered a sort OF test.
M pGs up h sds the resolution
Thescnae votcd-ihe result being 10 TO 10, quorum
being present.
Motions were made 10 adjourn aud 20 into executive
! session.
At this period there quorum, and the Senate
| voted.
Suggestions were made take recess and direc,
| the Sergeant at Arms 10 90 after the abscntees.
republicans an opportunity 70 confirm their nominations
and having fully discharged his own duty he moved that
| the Senate adjourn sine die
This disagreed TO-
There much incidental debate on thcse motions.
| Finally the Senate adjourned Till to morrow.
AFFAIRS AT CHARLESTON.
CHARrEroS, March ~, 1861.