New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-07-12

! Mr.. STEVENS Rep, Pal stated that the DIV Wsli
based on the estimates OF the Navy i'ol ~, md
that Il wa the desire of the Committee on 3ys anu
V.ons 20 C,;sl i, in the least possible uHe'
They 1yorld NOT whit for the other C"in1ll'eeS ~
make their reports. as they hoped 70 ' r..
business so that the Hoase mlght auloin on ,lHo,
| dav NEXT They were disposed, tbese war times, 10
Gle ev@rvtbng The Government asks, trusting that
before hall year shall pass away pgace may DC re-
stored. The Importance OF haVlhg uiHplined tiooPs
| WAS so obvious rs not TO require argument. III ue
army should be too large after the febt lion snp-
pressed Il would be easy 10 do it, The biz proposed
war standard.
act of the President O increasing the army unconstitu-
onal lie regretted to hear Mr.. Stevens say that the
Committee Ways and Means bad merely carried out
ibe recomme' dltion Of the Executive Department.
Dasmuch it appears that the war is 10 'e waged lie
asked that tie If both the House and the Sen.
ate take If il, order that il may he Conducted
under constitutional restrictions l. was known that
he hsd no confidence in the Republican party, but he
would rather trust the G.Onty here than the Admins-
pltiouitsel.
Mr.. BLAIR Rep. No said that the Military Com
mtee bad under consideration this very subject OF
adding new regiments 20 the army. They had not yet
had time 10 frame any bill. lie did not know what
they would agree upon. Certainly the subject was OF
vast importance, and lie presumed the COMMITTEE was
entie 70 have time 10 consider II. lie saw no oO-
lection TO the fret clause the bill now under discus
sion L. simply made an appropriation 10 pay for re-
crutng the proposed new regiments If the regiments
not authorized the section would Of course be oil
no effect.
Mr.. LOVEJOY Rep. HI wonld vote as the bl
proposed increase tie standing army so more than
double what j, now il. lie would give 5JjO0O men
and 100000 coo, and his constituents would give
their last cent and hed their lat drop of blood FOR the
suppression Of tn rebellion, but they dIi hot desire 70
increase the regular army.
Mr.. MALLORY visited TO know how II was that
this enormous appropriation, and contemplating an
Increase OF The regular army happened To- be Prese9l
the Hon-e b fore the Military Committee had maze
heir report
Mr.. McCLERNAND DEM, III briefly advocated
the Increase OF TIE army say log that ~ nnd been 700
small for the last 10 ~ years Tor the interests OF TINS
qeat Empire
Mr. BURNETT Dem, Ky.) replied that instead OF
his being great Empire no Burnci bid thought u
Co ederacy OF States, resting for its support on
tie people, and seated in their hearts and affections,
AID that did not require standing army 10 Keep inc
peore IN order not even 10 the extent OF 1900 men.
lie might not he 50 well informed as the gent leulan
from Illinois (NcClemaLd), but lie did know that the
Fathers OF this Republic Were always jealous OF
standi1g arBy aId that all tie past Administrations
had always been opposed increase. Whatever Their
individual views Insy be, surely the wisdom 81 'he
Honse will agree with the gentleman from Illinois
IL yeloy) thai in order 10 pat down rebellion II was
not necessary TO Increase the regular army but only 10
employ the volunteer forces Of The colntry.
Mr. McCLERNAND-Will you vote for the volun-
Mr.. BTRNFTr-Not by any means; becauso do
not believe that we can hold the Government together
N the point OF the sword or the cannons mout.
believe with Mr.. Douglas, whose eulogy the gentle
man fom Illinois (AlcClenand) but recently pro-
uounced, thai such hostile appliances would prove
he dedt1 knel OF this representative Goyepment.'
These are my sentiments. lOu may vote yolr five
hundred thousand men and your jly, buodTed millions
o. dollars, aud our eolnlry mpy be ravaged and des
olIted with civil war but by the fret Monday In
December next yOn win be no nearer the end Of the
war than now, and your money viii lee gone and your
men in the field. | have been published q Secs
sonist far and wide, yet my last speech was Union
a'gnmS5i, and against the doEtlne OF Secesslon'
reteat that according TO the theory Of our Govern
ment it rests for It's support "On the affections and
cons, nj OF the governed and that the wafllke !
movements now going ON viii prove the dea'h-knel OF
repnbi,a Institutions For THIS reason, enter
my solemn protest against the war.
Mr.. McCLERNAND replied: The gentleman from |
Kentucky said that he would not vote 81 al 10 put
down rebellion by the employment Of either tie resu-
lar or volunteer force When that gentleman re.nned
lis - az ere he took upon him solemn obligation IN
The sight If the country and God that he would sup
port be Constitution OF the United States, a1d could
be 90 so by folding his while the batteries OF re-
bellion ae ievelled perhaps az The capital Is THIS
every impartial man 10 decide. In further response,
Mr. McClenard said that this was not war Of cou-
quest but il 10 put down rebellion 10 Vindicofe the
Constitution, and TO protect the Union men IN the se-
ceded ates Just IN proportion the Federal flag adj
yances thew would be ound rallying around IL. There
was not lime when had not q standiug army, and
be would remind the gentleman that kentucky had by
NDic VI itOU W sh"oa" ~ As'S'
Mr.. BURNETT reminded the gentleman from hi
nos (McClersnd that he iBurneit) had said large
standing army"
M. MccLERNAND, resuming, showed the peces-
sity as6 importance Of adequate standing army 70
take care Of our forts and arsenas, suppress iodisn
DISCREPANCIES and the country aganst the ELECTS
If rebellion and revolution. -
Mr., BURNETT replied--The gentleman FROM Hi |
nois Cernand has adverted TO the fact that took
an oath TO support the Constitution Of the Uhited |
States. did take such an oath. TOOK II with clear
conscience and with trn and fixed Differentiation 70
stand by that instrument any other member Of this
House l do rot recognize that the member from il-
nois McClernand) has become censor with regard TO
my duties. represent the people OF hentgeky @ho
,ent ne here and them slone am responsible One
word more: eve man must judge for himself an TO
what are bis duties. believe am best serving the
interests of ny country and the eaufe OF constitutional
repre- sentative government az well " the property
and happiness Of the people by advocating peaceful
collation. of the present trouble instead OF advocating
bloody war. -
Mr.. McCLERNAND-You propose peaceful so-
lation want TO knew the bGsis Of IL. Do you want
us 70 recognize the Southern Confederacy
The CHAIRMAN reminded The gentleman hou
Illinois that such remarks were not pertinent TO the
subject under confederation.
Mr. McCLERNAND-Ib hope shall have an e1-
plicit answer.
Mir. BURNRTT-I must be myself the judge of the
rnanner Of RELY. repeat that am best subsetving
the interests Of the countrr by advocating ieaeeu
ee;tlt net of The ouesiOnheDce Oppose the section
of the bill which looks the enlarge mont OF the army
The gentleman from Illinois stall hear from me ata
future time how would settle The question, and when
shall have full opportunity Tor u at purpose.
Mr. HICKMAN rep, Pail am in favor OF the
largest expenditure necessary because am 10 favor
Of the employment Of the largest amour. OF troops
Dece-sary II it be asserted, with any degree OF eu
thoity, by tho gentleman from Kentucky, that I'VE
hundred thousand will not be sufficient 10 eubdue
this rebellion in the Southern dislOyal Ststee-f that
number OF men be not sufficient, then j am Tor
EMPLOYING TWENTY-FIVE hundred thoukaId and