Daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, Va. [W. Va.]) 1859-1865, 1861-06-19

show to the people by an authorised ex-
lpression Of the Convention that it intended
to take such steps as would create IA new
State, and to show the object in taking the
steps the Convention was now taking.
Mr.. CALDWELL thought the resolution a
proper one and that it was at once Il
courtesy and due TO the Federal Govern
ment that something like this indicated in
this resolution should be communicated to
the President of the United States and his
Cabinet, as an expression of the views and
intentions Of this Convention.
Mr.. FRosr moved the reference of the
resolution to the Committee ON Business
lie had no objection to the resolution or
the spirit of it. 1t seemed to him that
every step yet taken contemplated the sep
aration of the State.
Mr.. Dorsey said it was well known that
he had been advocating this new State
movement earnestly as he knew how, but
after mature consideration of the subject,
and after having had several resolutions
like the one under consideration submitted
to his consideration in private, lie had
come to the conclusion that it would be
Exceedingly inapposite for this Convention
at the present time in the present stage of
It's proceedings to pass such resolution,
lsince by doing so we are anticipating, said
/ he, the future action Of the Legislature of
Virginia, as we'll rs of this Convention.
This is not the proper time to make a
j proposition or a division of the State.
We have all agreed upon that matter
/ in private conversation, and the public
! discussions that have been had upon
this subject. 1t does seem to me-tlat
| If we desire division of the State
tue proper method to be pursued would
bem proceed with the business now in
hand, and when the State government is
fully organized, then such propositions as
this may be Submitted. This announce
ment may seem TO be incongruous with
my former position. think, however the
plan proposed looked to Just such an ar
rangement. After celebrating on the
course l proposed myself, and that pro-
posed by this resolution, have thought it
would be exceedingly imprndent to urge
this matter at the present time | hone
my friend from Upsher will see proper to
withdraw that resolution. He knows that
am an unyieldinS advocate for the di-
vision of the State, and assure him, rs |
assure the Convention that shall not be
satisfied as an individual, until that shall
be accomplished.
Mr.. NICHOLS, of Brooke, said, that he
understood the object OF the resolution to
be to give to our constituents at home
some evidence of the tone of the senti-
ment of this Convention, touching this
question of a division of the State. He
thought the remarks made in the discus
sions on that very subject, and which had
gone forth in the public prints, ought to
give abundant assurance to them of what
the sentiment here was upon that subject.
lie agreed with his friend from MonOnga-
li", that the Convention should not at this
time take any hasty steps touching that
matter. Still, if the gentleman from Up
shnr should persist, he would favor the
reference of the resolution to the proper
committee, that they might deliberately
weigh it, and report before they take any
action on the resolution.
Mr.. CARLILE supposed his friend from Up
shur was not present the other day when
this matter was discussed on the PROPOSE
tiOn OF the gentleman from Monongalia.-
So far as know, we all agree with him in
disiring division of the State, but how is
it to be done. 1t can be done only by virtue
OfaproVision ofthe Constitution ofthe u.s.,
and how can that be had now2 That pro-
vision makes it necessary for us to obtain
the assent Ofthe Legislature of the State,
and where is the Legislature, recognized rs
such, that can give its assent2 1t is no
longer under the protection, or entitled to
the provision, of the Constitution of the
United States. 1t is now out of our pow
or to effect separation, If every man, wo-
man and child in the State should give
their consent. There is no Legislature vet
that acknowledges its fealty to the Consti-
tuition OF the United States Therefore,
what we desire is simply an impossibility
ut this time. If it he our purpose to di-
vivide the State at some future time-and
it is certainly is my purpose-we are ta-
king the only course in which it can be
| accommodated ha
which we propose to organize here ac-
knewledged by the Federal Government as
the government of Virginia, aud then you
have Legislature that can constitutions
ally assent to this separation. Now you
haveit not. Even if the Legislature that
acknowledges its allegiance to the South
ern Confederacy were to give its assent it
would not be worth u niece ofblank paper
q The soil and people of Virginia are to all
Z intents and purposes, SO far as her State
authorities are concerned, transferred to
the Confederate States, and that so-called
ConfederHcy can only consent to the trans
Torrance of any portion of tue soil of that
called Confederacy, to a power with
whom they can treat. Now, sir, the Fed
eral Government and the loyal people of
!. Virginia do not acknowledge that transfer.
, This rebellion must be crushed out, or it
must be successful, and a treaty had be-
tween it and the United States, acknowl-
edging its independence, before they can
enter into any treaty
Il But the method we are pursuing is the
easiest, the only practicable mode by
by which the objects we have at heart can
t ever be accomplished, and such declara-
: tions as are contained in this resolution. do
nothing in the world but throw obstacles
aud cmbnrrassmentS in the way of accom-
3 plishing this separation.
The great question now foremost i the
minds of nll is the preservation of our
: Union and the perpetuity of the Federal
Government. So long as our efforts are
directed to this we have the sympathy of
: the twenty millions of loyal people who
symPathise with us. Therefore it being
! impossible to accomplish our object nnw,