New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-09-16

W. NOW, gentlemen, We want these railroads. We
have been laborng hard to get them for good many
years The Governor, in bis message, said that the
people wanted them, aud be is citizen OF New-York
and although the learned counsel made some remarks
about Gov. Morgan, which thought little out OF
place, for believe in Difference as well az obedience
To magistrates. But do not complaint; seeing it was
necessary he should say it, take back the criticism
which made on the counsel. L. has been sad by Mr.
Llejohn that the message which was read TO US VIZ
tualy imputes corruption to every member OF the
Legislature. He must attack the Governor; there Is
no other way the Governors message stands between
him and verdict. Ho Understood that. DO noi com
plain of the attack only would speak with what re-
sEect could of the Chief Magistrate Of the state
don't think does any good dsprecate the officers OF
the Government b. fore the public. Obedience 10 Tue
law and difference to magistrates are cardinal virtues
They are the very palladium Of liberty itself
n sSw snSs s Third EI AND S
five cents piece for carrying passengers back ana
forth; and we know they made these immense amounts
of money; and nobody knows better than that 10 oy,
Of which the council spoke last night when be charged
Mr.. Greeley with being member oft, the immense
value OF these franchises. They have been Trying
from year to year 10 get these similar bills through
In 1859 they succeeded in the House, and lost u IN
the Senate by only one or two votes And when a.S,
these measures. 1t was known that the Legislature
was Republican when elected. Those gentlemen OF
the Lobby discovered that there was one glorious pro-
text to put forward to reach class OF men who were
strong politicians, and who thought politics and party
were TO be advanced little over the head Of come
higher principles. They hit upon plan for carrying
it. il worthy Of its great author the ianer OF inc
Lobby. They said: We propose now, that tins Leys-
lature psss these railroad bills, and out OF these DIS
we will get the whole fund that we want 10 elect our
President We will get million dollars out OF these
bills 10 spend In electing our President next tal-in
electpp Mr.. Seward If he shoud be nominated. That
was one plan fixed upon Il seemed TO them that inc
measure was at least plausible, and that it might
carry consequently that was put forth Tor the ear OF
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thing 20 into the hands Of those who were Tie ac-
knowledgod leaders and managers OF the party III A.
B. was one OF the managers OF the party, pc says
Now. G. ID. cannot complain that nave hano In
THU for act for the party" G.. D. does consent that
A. b. may manage it for the party. IL was good
pree1 at sl events but it had the effect 10 get into
the hansA of the leaders Of the party Well gentle
men, In tn city Of New-iork in .he autumn oil ioJS
this was the real though disguised issue upon which
Candidates foi the Legislature were elected or de-
feaed. You will observe there were various inter-
esrs to 10 considered in this thing TIE first was the
corrupt RePublicaL Lobby Interest, which was dis
gused by the pretens. of party fund to elect Mr..
Seward. The second Wa corrupt Democratic Lobby
influence which took th, disguise Of tho stage mo-
nogoly.
omnibus stage lines very larg. amount Of capital.
II railroads are put on the yreets they would
drive the omuibuses of, and these Man would sustain
great losscoDsequentl they should b. indemnifed.
That was plausible and well done, but II was simply
blind. There are three men who managed that They
were leaders at Tammany, and claimed 20 REPRESENT
the stage interest. IL very wsc you zee, W lot
the Democratic party or come OF the leaders into is
thing 30 far az 10 have some hold upon the Demo
cratic MEMBERS aud one-third went TO these men,
der the pretense Of the stage interest. But, Gentle
men, think shall show TO you that the stage n-
terest-the real men-never got dollar That was
the second interest. Now, Mr.. George Law, owning,
as you know large intereet in the railroad ALREADY,
has n interest that would clearly be Affected by any
additional roads For there IL the Sixth avenue road
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there IL the Eighth avenue road running along the
other eide. Now, those WHO own on ills SIXTH or
Eighth avenue rsilroadf they can carry 20 passen-
gers In one car instead Of 40 which IL the foil capacity
OF car-tney would be damaged by having road
put down in the Seventh avenue. That was clearly
so. Now, Mr.. Law and his party viii call the
George Law iuterest-not meaning any disruspect 10
him, personally, at all-And may say here cannot
stop in what nm saying TO apologize for every name
may mention. mean no personal disrespect 10 any
body. l am telling you facts, ard wbOmsoeyer they
hit, they must bear Ill cannot help II. Thus, you
at glance that Mr. Law had really large Interests
here; he thought he had as large stake In It as any
body. aud think 80 too. Mr.. Law forced himself
upon tao other two inteTests-the corrupt Repub-
hcun called in New-York the Machine Republican, J
and the corrupt DemocTaticnot until he had clrcum-
vented them In the Senate, and had the majority Of
thai body in his pocket-he had passed his "Gridiron
bill 10 the Senate and they were compelled 70 make
terms with him aud take him 10 equal partner.
From that time forth, George Law owned third the
Republican lobby thkd the Democrauc LOBBY the
remaining third.
Let me inst glance over this again. There were
three interests; one will call the kew-York railroad
monopoly, represented by Geo. Law IL might have
called il by that name before, and avoided The
use Of Mr.. Law namel then the corrupt Democratic
Lobby interest, and, third, tho corrupt Republican
Lobby interest. These three the represented in
terests In these measures and think II we should
strain matters little, they would come down pretty
nearly to be led by three men, Under this oTganZa-
af "A I'M IN
election from the City of Newly 0Tk In the Fall OF 1859
il became of considerable importance where he should
be upon the great question. This programme was
adopted 10 illnstrate-A. IS. gets the nomination OF
the Republican party; he lie felt " and found TO be all
night on the question. Z" Very well says the Demo-
cratic interest, let him DO elected" Then q. ID.
gets nomination IN another district by the Demo
cratic party. lie is ielt OF aud found all right" Let
him 90 in" cay the Democratic lesders "ws can trust
bimj BIO will como into our arrangement Or, IL not
all right lao is OF the character that can be nodded "
the exigency. Well, II 20, these Republicans say,
ave will let him 10 in" But here comes man
from the Rnpublcan side" II won't DO to trust; he Is
honest and true don't trust him" 30 say these Re-
pubcans in seCre-"We viii LOT him be defeatedi let
the Democrat 90 in, he is saie' In that way they
went through the city, though with immense labor
and they got almost every man IN that city SAFE Tor
them and that is the reason why The learned counsel
on the other side found that the New-York members
nearly all went for these measures. That IA the Sc
cret, and you may we'll understand It, gentlemen,
though perhaps at the expense Of wearying you.
Well, gentlemen, we viii say the members are now
elected, I" We have elected our men" chuekled tho
lobby out of the different parties; have taken
GLORIOUS good Of that little town Of Syracuse; and
we think toerably safe on Oswego." IL turned
out they were entirely safe at Oswego. We will 70
up TO Albany now. The Democratic and Republican
interests there ut Albany they are going 70 make
sure work this time. Up this time, you will recol
lect there were but two parties TO this tchemethe
whole loots to be divided only by the figure 2.
"Brightly It sparkle, TO pluIdsreis cyeA"
At first this thing 10 be going through all right.
Mr Gaarra auZ man of Rreat wealth. and OF great