New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-03-23

muskets and your soldiers Ii now remains examine
whether italian unity, which is the only good soluion,
not tue Only possible one "a, rs an a t6st
force must be employed. Look for a moment at the
mad and absurd hypothesis OF armed intervention IN
Iayyou will have against you the Italians and next
England. And how will Sicily be governed hn-
gland will take possessiOn OF her, for you Will have
given her right to do so. And by doing that you
will not have satisfed AUSTRIA for If she detests itsy
there is something which che hates still Inore ana tna
is the influence and the strength oil France ~
will therefore remain for US the prayers OF some Blsh
ops and the sympatbes Of the todegs OF
l. for my part, prefer the support OF the conquero OF
Magenta and OF SOlerino BE assured thai the unity
of Italy must be accomplished. Rome will not resist
public opinion is very clearly fixed on that point and
will the Senate be less liberal than the Prussan Par.
lament which has been guided in the expression OF
it's ympaies for the Italian cause by an antiAustian
feeling and for that reason favorable to France In
order to touch all questions there is painful name
which must now pronounce-Venice. movement
am anxious to cay nothing that may compromise the
policy of my country in Italy; but the situation OF
Venice ia one of the greatest misfortunes OF mOdern
times But any inopportune attempt would be de-
nIntable The part OF Italy is TO develop her force,
organize her army, and when the moment
shall have arrived, she may, with the Tndestah o,
there is 10 be done, and the guaranty for sueh
conduct ia the wisdom which the people OF ltaiy
has shown during late events. where can Peo-
pie be found who, after 50 many centuries o. oPfee
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France is certainly great nation, but IL sucn sua
ton everything would have been overturned. In
order TO encourage this wire conduct Italy must be sup
ported by good counsels from the tribune aga iron al
the organs Of public opinion lhal %i give % len
fdepce (Approbation. What will Italy 90 wien
she shall have consulted universal sniirage-ha. sur
frage the results Of which are now disputed Dy tnoe
who after having been its adyersarles, now $40"
themselves such scrupulous guardians OF II hou.e s
qnieu said that all nations have the Governments
which they merit. When France was consulted 0y
universal suffrage she said what she wished ior. we
were then without power without support; the 10Y
eminent was in the hands OF General, an nohoraole
General movement who was hottie TO us. You
know what the reply Of universal suffrage was then,
and it will be the same in Italy, Much has been salo
about the domination Of Pied mont and her conspra-
cies How does che conspire when every ore Is OF the
same mind and when the unity Of Italy has been the
feeling of every heart for ages Sensation. When
the Italian Parliament shall have decreed that victor
Emanuel il King Of Italy what will take placer
italy will demand capital, and will LAY that Europe
cannot interfere, for that noninyention Is s pubhc
law. The true basis of the liberty and ndepen-
dence of Italy the buckler Of non-nterventon; let
Rome be given TO Italy and her unity is secured.
lMurmurs.1 Have | not a right 10 approve the con-
duct Of the Emperor when ii is so firm, and at mo-
ment when coalition talked Of in connection with
the interview az Wsnaw? IL il the firm conduct Of
the French Government under those circumstances
which secured peace and that holiness constitutes lis
glory. lApprobation.l There now remains the ques-
ton Of tie Application of the PaIa power. Certainly
the Pore mut preserve his independence and cannot be-
come the subject Of new sovereign Ills constitutes
be great difficulty Of the question Of Rome but II Is
not Impossible TO solve the problem. The Pore the
srrltul Head of the Church; could he not resde at
Rome with 40 amount a independence which would
make him neither the chief The subject OF any one
TIE geograpl ical situation If Rome divided by The
Iiber into two perfectly distinct cities, one the Cath
oic city and thai Of The Vatican on the n h bank and
the other on tie left appears 70 offer solution Is IL
impossible to secure the Independence Of the Pope IN
& 81 risi. hu irwin i'm "a
securing 10 him a budget guaranteed to hun by All
the Powers The Pope, thus surrounded by the
yeneration Of Christianity, with SPECIAL lurlsdie-
tnu aud with bis own flag, would preserve all his in-
dependence. lMumuN. Rome would become az 1t
were the sanctuary and the OASIS oil Christianity. IL
WILL L know be said that these are ehlmeras, Out
MANY things viii have been ssinated az such have
been realized during he last three yeera When d-
fcny presents itself il Is in vain 20 hope 70 put It 1
for 1t must be solved. We are in presence Of Italian
unity; that must either be accepted the policy OF NJ
de Larochcjaquelrin adopted; and the latter courte
would necessarily lead 10 osasters. am anxious that
the words with which his people formerly received the
Pope should not be forgotten. They were Courage,
Holy Father Let France, who l. full OF reepect and
symIthy for the Sovereign Poftif say 10 him IN her
turn Wisdom, Holy FHtter' wish orthote words
T. come from the Senate, which contains bls devoted
cons; and the Emperor's Government inspired with
the words OF forefthers, will say 10 him, DO
what YOU ought, come what may Movement and
loud approbation.l
The debate was continued on the I'd inst.
Icons speech was, i'll his opinion, complete denial OF
all principles hitherto ACKNOWLEDGED wished TO know
whether Il he taken as the expression of the
views Of the Government.
NJ. Bllluli llinisteT) in reply stated that no one
had the rght 10 speak in the Of the Government
except those VINO were its official and recognized or
cams NJ Blllaul, then entered into an elaborate de-
ense Of the policy of the French Emperor passing III
review tho recent eyens in Italy:
"I is the policy Of the Emperor said Nj. Billaultl
never TO act alone when interests are AT stake
but to come 10 an understanding wilh the other great
Powers. This il. the true secret for preserving the
peace of the world . We now asked
what win be the Interior line Of conduct OF the En-
perur. The question is so CONF Heated that II would
be impossible 10 lay down any fixed rule OF action
All that we can Gay u this: Il have shown that
the Emperor for tie last 10 months has done all that
could lie done 10 mslntain the fundamental principles
of our Government toward Austria, towad the popu-
latiOns OF Italy and toward the safety and mdepen-
d,uce of tie Holy Fg,hef-if you believe that with
Us enlightened by the pact, then place confidence III
the Emperor aud lis policy" Loud APPLAUSE.
Count de Segur GAkuesseau wished TO know
whether the French troops were to be withdrawnrom
Rome.
NJ. Billault declined answering that question. For
eleven yoarr France had given proofs Of her devotion
70 Holy Father and 10 one had right to suspect
her intentions lie then passed severe censure upon
tic insults aud odous illusions" recently expressed
aga nst the Emperor.
Cardinal Bonnet spoke in favor Of the temporal
power Of the Pope and moved that the Senate should
ADOPT an dlnehuulsLl rNNlN VI a1NN
continue to protect the independence of the Pope and
the maintenance of his temporal power.
M. Baroche Minister, President Of the Council Of
Sate did hot think it necessary. after the speech OF
NJ. Billault, to make any further reply. He would
only observe that the Government was opposed to the
amendment.
The general discussion was then declared to be
closed
The Count de Persigny has authorized the publica-
ton Of daily papers in Paris. One Is to be
called lie Temps and the other La France L'terale.