The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1861-02-12

was in reference to this fact that these people are now
asang themselves Of this being port Of the United
states, and collect the revenue and put 1t into their
pockets when fact, they are nobody in the eyes Of
the law and in the eyes Of the world We going on
paying the expense aud they receiving the money Now
ahe sena.or says this won't do. Either declare war
United don propose srs to ds either par propose
70 40 simply that whicn is necessary for our own
pr h naa ana adyantaee am acting yet a. Senator
the United States, and not for South Carolina
or any other seeding State. And long as
! going to be diverted from this by talk about
force and coercion The time may come when it viii
be necessary for us to speak plain. | am willing to
speak plain now, and say, speaking for myself,
the time does when viii be necessary use
constitution, am perfectly ready to do it, But trust
shall have such necessity The measure of my friend
constructing these additional vessels is a measure Of
peace do not suppos body ever dreamed Of max
ing THIS appropriation for the purpose of making war
upon these States II may be will come II may be
these difficulties will vastly greater than they
now and when that time trust shall be ready
70 meet our responsibilities like men, But the question
now what is necessary for to do for tho interest Of
hs country IN reference to its naval force? Although
the Senator will not for it. because it NAV be that
" VIII give additional force to the government which he
represents here say to him that objection to my
mind am perfectly willing il should have that addi-
tional force when am wen defended by the recon-
mendaton OF democratic President year after year.
and supported by democratic Senator.
Mr.. MAsoN-The Senator has been a little discursye
but he has enlightened u.s. at least he has me upon
TINS question: that the present necessity for increased
iava force has some reference TO the condition OF things
IN the seeded States. He says, there propriety in
letting our naval force decay view Of fact that the
ortf arsenas and public property have been seized in
these StaesY Now sir, il Is necessary to spell this
whole word apple pie 10 know the pie when it is put
ment because of the condition Of the seeded States
take il for his admission.
Mr.. FEssKspES-I said that argument for dimi
nishing the force.
Mr. MAsos-well, sir, let that pass. The Senator
derakes to ask me who represent here? did not ask
the Senator that question have that respect for him
to which he entitled by his position, his mind and his
intellect He is authorized to say for himself what he
represents. | win tell whom | represent represent
the sovereign State Of Virginia, TO whom alone
nabe for what may do or what may say. heard the
Senator from Mississippi whom he refers with equal
appreciation to himself will do nothing that will stand
in the way OF the full and complete administration Of
this government so long as remain one Of the par
ticipants IN its administration; bat have reason to
believe that theSgovernment Is initiating policy that
viii lead to civil war and that will lead to unneces
sary war, and will minister to the passions Of bad
| will not vote to increase the naval armament
for that purpose and if have reason to believe that
ment with a view to prospective war, am doing my
duty a Senator of the United States in doing what
us with his view of the reasonable propriety OF incur
ring this expenditure in the present condition OF the
Treasury, but has contentcd himself with the recon-
mendation Of democratic President When Senator's,
who soon to become the dominant power, will not
say whether they going to not but shadow il
out daIky will not vote dollar until there Is settled
policy established and understood policy for the new
state Of things want to know what s to be the policy
of this government; whether they going TO make
war the seeding States whether they will let them
peacefully withdraw upon terms to be settled by nego-
ation or whether we are to remain here till the 4h OF
March with these purposes only darky shadowed FORTH
done by the Senator from New York (Mr Seward)
Maine TO day that there may be state Of things when
1t is necessary to state. We have that policy
shadowed out, but not avowed 1t Is time to establish
policy. Let know what is TO be done. desire,
Senator of the United States to know how TO shape my
vote in relation 70 their measures Of public policy and
ln,xu hath aftltI lie ha anaAp
because OF secession, win never vote dollar TO in
crease the navy
the navy has been introduced every year since have
been member OF the Senate and think have uni
ormly voted against IL, for did not believe was
necessary. But is abroad in this land and
believe there is occasion aud necessity Of the in
crease Of The armament, and the power Of tne country
But for the condition of things IN the country now,
woad vote against II, but vote for as measure to
put the country in condition to defend itself against
It's enemies whether they domestic foreign
mics. This government and this country cannot be
peaceably destroyed or overthrown or divided. The
sovereigns themselves viii come here before that s
DONE f their representatives could prove
their defence Of It. II s well that the whole country
should know that the people Of this country will not
sent they will consent to the peaceabc destruc-
ton Of the government They would be 10 the
highest duties OF men their country their race to
themselves and to the high trust Of the ancestry Who
acquired II, they could entertain thought OF The de-
stroyed would use forbearanee and patience" a. VI
would extend every degree Of Kindness and make
h 70 hsss % & s1 ont Ss % he 70
least OF ALL that they should peaceaby have right TO
break up this government, would never admit. don't
know what these gentlemen consider peace. They
have armed themselves, and have taken
arms belonging to this government. Cabinet officers
and members OF the Senate have been interested this
treason, and foul, infamous plot has existed have
no doubt, TO destroy this government. Providence,
rather than the skill and attention of the people, has
arrested it, and some OF the have been driven
out OF the Cabinet in disgrace; and Indictment
found against some & Of them for emeezzemen. e & or
Infamous attempt which men can conmit. There werc