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The Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1837-1867, 1861-12-06
The Sickness in the Vermont Regiments.

All the accounts from the Vt brigade IL
gree mainly in the statement that the last
three regiments sent from this state are now
very sicklv We give below extracts from
letters to different newspapers, which are cor
roborated by private letters to this Office
The first extract that follows is taken from
Waltons Daily of Nov. -, and is undoubted
ly from the pen of Hon. Joseph Pollard :
Il am sorry to be compelled to say that the
fourth and fifth are suffering ;eariuiiy from
sickness More than two hundred and hft,
in each are sick, and the deaths are nearly
one day in each regiment. The fourth
have had some twelve deaths, and the fifth
sixteen. Measles and typhoid fever are the
prevailing diseases. The universal opinion
here is, that this terrible plague fill upon
these regiments as the legitimate consequence
of exposure upon first coming into camp
from want of overcoats and sufficient cloth
ing; and the universal phrase is, that the
State of Vermont may never suffer that great
iollv-nol to call it by any hard name-to
be repeated And may not no~ say this,
without incurrnS the taunt that | an elcc-
tioneering for On ayanSt some candidate for
Cffice."
The Burlington Times of few DAYS since
had the following:
"Rev Nolney VI. Simons, Chaplain Of the
9TH regiment, arrived here last evening, hay
ing left Camp Griffin on Sunday morning
last. He reports great sickness in the 4th
and 9TH regiments; some 2j0 being reported
daily as unfit for duty. He also states that
members of the 9th regiment were coming
down sick at the rate of 10 day. Up to
Saturday last, l. deaths had occurred in the
9TH regiment. He thinks the statement III
the Tribune of Saturday last, in relation to
the great proportion of sick in The Vermont
regiments as compared with those from other
States, to be in no wise exaggerated. The
sickness in our regiments has been superln-
duced he believes, by the want of proper
clothing; our boys having done a large a
mount OF picket duty in the worst of weather
without overcoats. When Mr. S. left, Col
Smalley had not rejoneG his regiment, but
Lieut. Col Grant and Major Proctor had
worked well for the interests Of the regiment
and have done an immense amount OF hard
work.
Tie army correspondent of the Free Press
under date of Camp Griffin, Nov. %, says:
You will see by the papers that the Yer,
mont troops are the most unhealthy in the
whole army Deaths among them are tre
ouent. Three died in the 9Th last night
have been told that some fifteen of the 3t!
have also died, and we have lost eight or ten
Some of the bodies have been sent home
others inferred here. There is quite grave
ward Of them already. You may be surpris
ed at the statement, but there are orer
Thousand sick in the Vermont Brigade
What the cause Of SO much sickness is can
not tell. Other regiments are quite heal
thy
The Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1837-1867, 1861-12-06
Songs of the Camp.

Bayard Taylor's beautiful verses, founded o.
an incident IN the Crimcan war, will bear repeti
ton at this time, when war. its glory and its sol
row. occupy the mind Of the nation. When
was first printed, i'll 1876, a poetical contempora
ry said: 1T is full of the sweetest humanity all
ing lines cannot read without feeling th;.
they embrace a beautiful truth, in so musica
and concise form, that they must necessari
be immortal They were printed in The Gale
donian of May 10. 1856
"GIve US a song. the soldiers cried,
The outer trenches guarding,
When the heated guns of the camps allied
Grew weary Of bombarding
The dark Redan, in silent scotf.
Lay, grim and threatening. under.
And the tawny mouth of the Malakof
No longer belched its thunder
There was pause. guardsman said,
I'VE storm the forts tomorrow:
sing whlic we may, another day
W Ill bring enough Of SORROW"
They lay along the battery'S side,
Below the smoking cannon
Brave hearts from Severn and from Clyde,
And from the banks of Shannon.
They sang of love and not of fame
Forgot was Britain'S glory;
Each heart recalled different name,
But all sang Annie Laurie"
Voice after voice caught up the song,
Until its tender passion
Rose like an anthem. rich and strong
Their battle-eve confession.
Dear girl-hel name he dared not speak
ct. as the song grew louder,
Something upon the soldiers cheek
Washed off the stains of powder
Beyond the darkening ocean burned
The bloody sunsets ember>,
While the Crimean valleys learned
How English love remembers
And once again fire of he'll
Rained oil the Russian quarters
With scream Of shot and burst of shell,
And believing of the IN ortars.
And Irish Nora's eyes are dim,
For singer, dumb and CORY,
And English Mary mo,trns for him
Who sang Of Annie Laurie
All, soldiers, to your honored rest
Your truth and valor bearing;
The brave>t are the tenderest-
The loving are the daring,
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selling him such COW, demanded his mon
ey back at once. AS soon as he could get a
word in edgewise, the farmer told the angry
man that cows never wore such teeth on the
upper jaw, and to convince him, took him
out to the barn-yard, when, after opening
the mouths of dozen or so cattle, young
and old, the singing man drove old brindle
into the road and trudsed home behind her,
sadder and wiser man.
A PRECEDENT IN PoINT.-Hunting prece-
dents for the arrest of the rebel emissaries is
now fayorite amusement The n. Y. Com
mercial Advertiser finds the following, which
meets all the conditions of the case:
a similar proceeding on the part of an
English vessel of war will probably be within
the recollection of some of cur readers. We
refer to the boarding of the ship Hercules of
Salem, Mass, Capt Edward West, in Sar-
dinian port. some fifty years ago, and torcl-
bly, taking from on board Lucien Bonaparte,
then on his way to the United States. The
Hercules pat into port on account OF the
sickness of Lucien Bonaparte, and at his urg
ent request An English manof-war was in
port, got wind of the passenger on board,
and sent boatsyain With an armed crew,
who took Lucien away by force, carried him
on board the man -ofwar, and he was taken a
prisoner to England"
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~ A servant girl in a scientific family
in Albany. refused to do the washing last
Monday, because she had heard the gentle
man of the house state that Thatcher had
predicted the appearance of another comet
shortly, in the handle of "the dipper."
w \ vender of hoop skirts was recent
" extolling his wares in presence Of a custo-
mer's husband. No lady should be without
one of these skirts, said the storekeeper.-
well, Of course not dryly responded the
husband, who was something of wag-she
should be rithin 1t.
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>~A~>

@ y good story is told here of Slidell
in his earlier years. His father was a talloc
chandler and a very respectable, honest man,
too, which is more than can be said Of his
son. When the present Slidell first made
hi> foreign tour and had returned from it, he
was accosted by an old friend VINO was some
what of wag And SO, John, YOU have WIS.,
tied Europe" "les,' was the reply, Il have
seen England, France, Italy, and G,eece.' >
"Ah,,' remarked the wag, you must have
felt very much at home IN Gresce'' 1t is
hardly fair, however, to tell these anecdotes
on Slidell IN his hours of adversity, and l
would not do ii were he Il man of genuine
feeling. Now Mason, with all his Virginia
hau;eur founded upon nssers and plug-to-
baccO) has good degree Of civilization. He
is not debauchcc or a thief. He is a thor
ough-going rebel but he is a good deal of
gentleman. can't he p feeling sorry for
him, it must he very tough for such a man
to come down 10 casemate in Fort Warren.
-Ldfer from ITashiaqt0a.
The Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1837-1867, 1861-12-06
The Practical Test of Tobacco.

When it comes to the practical test, the
whole position is conceded to OR hands, and
the very devotees of tobacco are false to their
idol. 1t is not merely that the most fumiga-
tory parent disSuaies his sons from the prac-
tice but there is more remarkable instance.
If any two classes can be singled out in com
muni,y as the largest habitual consumers Of
tobacco, it must be the college students and
the city "roughs" or "rowdies," or whatever
the latest slang name is;-for these royster-
ers, like oysters, incline 10 names with an =
in. Now the "roush,' when brought to
physical climax, becomes the prize tighter !;
and the college student is seen in his highest
condition as the prze-oarsman and both
these representative men, under such clrcum-
stances of ambition, abandon tobacco. Such
a concession, from such quarter, IS worth
all tie denunciations of good Mr. Trask.-
Appeal, O anxious mother from Philip
smokngto Philip training. What your prog
env VIII not 90 lOr any cuhSiueIaIloHs VI ctn
les or cconemy,-to save his sisters olfacto-
ries or the atmosphere of the family affair."
that he does unfinchingly at one word from
the stroke-oar or the commodore. In so do
ing, he surrenders every inch of the ground,
and owns unequivocally that he is in better
condition without tobacco. The old traditions
of training are in some other respects being
softened: strawberries are no longer contra
baid and the last agones of thirst are no
longer part of the prescription; but train
ing and tobacco are still Incompatible
There is not a regatta or aprize-tight in which.
the betting would not be seriously affected
by the discovery that either party used the
beguiling weed.-T ". Hgginson.
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Rebel FerOcity.

The following letter was found on the bat
tle-feld at Pikesville, KY:
ARLINGTON, Va, October 2. 1861.
My Dear Wife: have left you and our
children in the land Of the despot, but God
grant that l may soon be able to make the
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C. The Chelsea Telegraph reports tha;
one day last week lady of that city went
out to MAKE call After ringing the bell,
Bid,iy came to the door, and the following
dialogue ensued Is Mrs - at homeg No.
mem: she's gone to the circus. TO the cir
Gus tgreatlv surprised.) What circus has
she gone TO y 80 the sewing circus, men,
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\ DEvOUT ADvERTIsER-We notice in a
religious newspaper, a displayed advertise
ment for a wife. We give 1t a gratuitous
insertion, but no one need address this office
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GEO. +. MINER,
PAINTER. GRAINER PAPER HANGER,
ShOp opposite BlnsnIm'> Drug Store.
GEORGE ALDRICH,
Manufacturer and Dealer in FURNITURE,
Railroad Street
MISS T.. Il. LANG.
WILMER Room On the c3rner Of Central and sam
- ret,. First house w", oI ST JoIlsbury House t'
JOEL HOUGHTON, Vi. d.,
SURGEON AND PHYSICIAN.
Va. iIuI 1t til, residence of he late Dr. Luther Jew
~ i'Vr south oi the Bakery st. John,bury VI.
ALEXANDER THOMPSON,
IRON FOUNDER AND MACHlNIST,
Al PADDOCK MACHINE woKks.
\. IL. FLINT,
Manufacturer OF IL Arm ESsEs. Etc,
r.f,-.se ra,-nmpslc House, Railroad Street
c. G.. CIIILDS,
I.lLEK N WATCHES. JEwELHY. SILVER AND
P.i1Ep "tRE. sPECrACLts, EooKS, sIAIIoNEKy, FANCY
oOODs, TOYS,
,-It; di EisTdV Ing done " Ith eic SaiCt and lrUmI
tPpV>ue Posi- Once. Main street.
j. l.. CIsOSMAN,
U-..rr In B.OTS, SHOES. AND UMBRELLAS.
" Bin1nan's Building Main street.
~ ~ i
NEAT AND PROVISION MARKET,
Buters Building, Railroad Street.
NUI'T ~ MASON,
FILE MANUFACTUEEitS. STEAM MILLS,
Opposite Passenger Depot.
Miss Il. NIcDOUGALL.
WHOLESALE AND RETAIL pEALERIS
NlLLl y + Il l 4 y l. D Il GOODS
Opposite Caedonian once.
l.. .JEvvI:TT,
pEALER IN DRY GOODS. CROCK EEY, HARDW ARE
=p'IS A>p SHOES. GROCERIES, OILS. PAINTS. ETC
Mai! Street
HOYT h & II REEN,
-iJ GGIaI'. aut dealers in Paints oil- and arnishe>.
Railroad Street
IL. II. NEW TON,
DENTAL SURGEON.
h'' opposite Bauk, Main street.
ii. &. DICKINSON.
AGRICCITCRAL WAREHOUSE SEED STORE.
J. LANG, NJ. ID.
FHYSlCIAN AND SURGEON.
ST. Jvhnsbury Centre, VI.
II. Il. BROWN,
Dealer in
STOVES TIN WARE, WOODEN& GLASS WARE,
Eastern Avenue
i. 4 Il VI i e. L u N,
Manufacturer & Dealer in Furniture and Chairs,
ST JohIi>tuTy Centre.
+. TR E : CO. L +,
VERY STABLE. Passengers carried to and from the
Stable Central street, near St Johl>bury House
). NEWELL, VI. ID.
YSICIAN y ID L k II . n.
Otice his Residence on Prospect street.
l.. ID. KlLBOCRNE, ID. ID. :.
DENTAL SURG GEON
u-.. Corner Nam an! Central streets.
A. j. W l. l. 4 ID,
ATTORNEY AND COUNSELLOR AT LAW.
AGENT Tor the VI. Mutual Fire Insurance Co.
i. NJ. HOW A ARD.
WATCHES 1rwEIRy nGa'sT nH6ks. * STATIONERY AND
FANCY GOODS.
Opposite Bank, Main street
GEO. VI. Il 4 X n f Y.
DEALER IN BOOTS SHOES AND LEATHER.
kttriise's Block Main Street.
JOHN BACON, I'd, Il co.
uEALERS IN HIDES. LEATHER AND OIL.
81. JUhl>bury Centre, VI.
j. ROSS s,
ATTORNEY. COUNSELLOR a SOLICITOR.
0i,ce over +. Jewett's
HORTON Il HALI.ErT,
MERCHANT TiILORS and dealers In Gents Fur
.i~in. tio,'tS- RtiIr"a' street
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Gen Anderson and His Spirit.

sat, few days aga, looking steadfastly
into the face of the mild and Christian patri-
OF who. as the hero of Sumter, first reused
this nation to arms. In that quiet. gentle
countcnance that unasSumng, modest mien !;
those humble lids: that worn and feeble
frame, could see little to account for the
timness, intrepedi,y. and selt-sacritice con-
nectcd with that hopeless but immortal de-
tenSe. The tones Of voice, the eye, the Ian
guase indicated nothing remarkable, and al
most tempted one to think that this man was
neither born great nor had achieved great
ness, but was only among the fortunate few
who have greatness thrust upon them. But
all at once, he sad-and his eye flashed fire,
his voice lung like 4 bugle, his face shone
like hero as he spoke Il am not satisfied
with the point which public feeling has yet
reached in this war SO long as any man
thinks that any other man has deeper in
terest in i; than he himself has. he is not full
iy loyal he is not adequately reused" Ah
there is the " ho'e matter in a nutshell. Ev
c!v man has. or ought to feel that he has an
infinite interest IN the cause of justice, honor.
constitutional law and republican institutions.
Every man in the loval states stands for Il
common humanity: should act as il the
whole cause rested Oh his shoulders: should
fight as il nobody else was fighting; should
die as if no blood but his could save the coun-
try. Let this-the sentiment that animated
every apostle and early Christian, and car
ried the cross OF Christ successfully against
the whole false civilization and religion CT
the Roman empire and the heathen world
once seize our standards, and it will bear
them trumphantiy through all the batteries
that for miles tortify the Gap of Manassas
and close the diSloyal Potomac. We art
waiting for tie spirit, and it is rising. \
few more noble Massachusetts men need or
" bite the dust "A few more iluStrous gen
erals and captains from Minnesota and Ore
gon, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and New
York, lead the way and mark it with thell
b,ood-to rouse the whole nation to pitcl
which would satisfy even the hero Of Sumter
-Rec DR. BtUows.
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STrORNEY { COUNSELLuR AT LAW
sd -DLICIron IN CHANCEKY, MclNDuEs FALLS, VT.
"INOOSkI HOTEL, Cabot, Vt.
- .-Way House between Montpelier and 81 Johnsbury
T. f.. WILSON, Proprietor. l29
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HOM,EPATHIC PHYSICIAN AND SURIEON,
BARNET VILLAGE, VI.
Es- Also partir Ar attention paid 10 extracting teeth.
Or.e in t'Otnn- Block.
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VI. G.. HOJGHTON. NJ. ID.

y s L Il 4 nee A q + n T,
rice with J. Ross, Jcwett'S Building
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TTuRNEY AND COUNSELLOR AT LAW,
- 4.HsFiEIDS BUILDING BARTON, tERAoH'
..r,t th.. Court, in OrleaIi, Caledonia Counties
Shreveport daily news., 1861-08-22
Southern Manufactures.

The indications of progress are
already manifesting themselves
throughout the South. Arrange
ments are being made in Charleston
and throughout South Carolina for
securing the South from its depen-
dence upon the North for the many
articles which it has heretofore fur
nished at enormous prices. At no
distant day there will be boot and
shoe factory upon the largest scale, a
furniture manufactory manufactory
Of Kerosine oil, tanning mills,
matchmaking establishment, a lace
manufactory, and manufactures of
various useful and necessary articles
for which the South has been depen-
dent on the North. Already there
is in operation a manufactory of tin
ware, a clothing establishment. and
several other enterprises which we
do not at present reco1lect, but
which have been chronicled in The
Mercury. In other portions of the
South the same spirit animates the
people. Percussion cap manufacto-
tories have been established in Nash
vile, Tenn, Macon, Ga, Raleigh,
n. c., and Richmond. Va. Imports
mouth, Va, pistol manufactory
has been established. Oil cloth is
being manufactured at Atlanta, Ga,
and at Columbus paper machinery.
Extensive shoe manufactures have
also been established at Nashville,
Tenn, New Orleans, and Stanton,
Va: A type foundry has been es-
|tabished in Richmond, and prin-
ting ink manufactures at Richmond,
Atlanta, Augusta and New Orleans.
Thus, it will be seen that the South
is really becoming Independent and
if during the prosecution of the war,
so much energy is displayed, how
much more rapid will be the strides
taken after the establishment of our
independence aud our recognition as
one of the nations of the earth.
Charleston Mercury.
Shreveport daily news., 1861-08-22
Scccssiouists in Nep Y0rE.-Tj

.Seccssionists in Nep York.-The
New York correspondent of the
Philadelphia Ledger says:
Since the late disaster at Manas-
sas, herebels and rebel sympathizers
(for there are many such persons) in
this city have grown bolaer, and are
even beginning to hoist their obnox-
ious colors and to speak their trea-
sonable sentiments in public. Yes
terday one of these "bold seceders''
displayed rebel flag from his {or
her) residence in Wooster street
Capt. McVicar, Of the Mounted Ri
fies, observing it, entered the bull
ding and ordered the man Tor woman)
to deliver the flag to him. The Sc
cessionist obeyed the order, and de-
livered it up, but not before he had
torn it in shreds.
If this incident had happened in
Baltimore or Alexandria, it would
scarcely y have been remarked, but
here, in the great Union city Of New
York, you will not wonder that it
sets many people thinking what next
will happen.
Shreveport daily news., 1861-08-22
Real Object OF the War.

We clip the following significant
article from the New York News of
the Sth:
BY the papers which arrived by
the Anglo-SaXon we learn that the
Rev. DIR. Cheever and the British
Abolitionists are looking to the Ameri-
can war for the most hopeful results
for their cause. We publish in an
other column an account of meet
ing in which the pastor Of the Church
Of the Puritans declared his convic-
ton that the American war would
result in the total cmanci patton of
the black race. The Morning Star,
in which the proceedings are publish
ed, strongly indofses the efforts of
DR.. Cheever, and believes that "tle
brave martyrs who have thus far
shed their blood in behalf OF negro
freedom have not suffered in vain.
Such is the only presumption evi-
IDENTIFY upon which the war finds any
sympathy abroad. In any other re-
spect the teaching Of plain common
sense is, that the contest is both ru-
nous and hopeless, and to none is
this fact more clear than to those
across the water who have explored
the mysteries of war, and look upon
transatlantic events with a vision
unobscured by immediate contact or
the mists of passion. We accord to
DIR. Cheever the merit of both sense
and trankness in this matter, and
consequently, can we'll appreciate his
purpose in administering to the ut
ter ruin of country and Government.
His interpretation of the real motive
which governs the war party is un-
questionably truthful, as any other
Interpretation would be incompatible
with any ordinary mode of reasoning
upon the subject. 1t is to be hoped
that the American people will open
their eyes to the real enormity of the
project before it is too late to arrest
the threatened calamity. Let us at
least attempt to preserve the form
and spirit of the Government, though
the day of negro millennium and jubi-
lee, which enlivens the hopes Of DIR.
Cheever and his sympathiaers be in
tinite)y postponed.
Shreveport daily news., 1861-08-22

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Shreveport daily news., 1861-08-22

Prince Napoleon.-Northern tele-
graphic correspondence from Wash
ington, under date of the 9th, gives
the following. The Prince would
not have realized conversation
with Stewart, nor would that officer
have asked such silly questions of
his guest:
Late this evening Prince Napoleon
returned, with his suite, from Man
assas. Three regiments of cavalry
and four of rebel infantry held pos
session ofFairfax Courthoue. 1t was
known at Manassas that Prince Ma
poleon was coming. The enthusiasm
was wild. Beauregard and johnson
were both at Manassas. They re-
ceived the Prince with the greatest
possible respect. ALI their pressing
invitations and entreaties that he
would go on to Richmond and see
President Davis the Prince firmly
declined. The fortifcations at Man
assas are formidable and our guns,
particularly Of Sherman's battery,
torn an important part of the defen-
ses. Beauregard informed the Prince
that he captured sixty-two guns at
the battle of Bull Run. The dead
were not properly kuried. They
were simply put under ground, and
some Of the feet We're seen above
The soldiers in Manassas were nu-
merous, but poorly dressed. At the
departing the rebels gave the Prince
salute with United States guns
On returning to Fairfex, Colonel
Stewart approached the carriage of
the Prince and said Il hope you
like our forti6cations." Prince-"Oh,
pretty we'll" 81 hope" said Stew
art again, "you will interfere for us
when you get home" The diploma
tic Prince shrugged his shoulders as
he said, Il know nothing"