Delaware gazette. [volume] (Delaware, Ohio) 1855-1886, 1861-02-08

ter aud sale wherever they may lawfully ba
Leld: Why, then, shall not the stakeholder
from Marslalid and Virginia take their mar,
ketable slaves to New York and there meet
buyers from the Gulf States, and sell and lhip
them to tile cotton plantations, of Alabama
aud Mississippi 1t seems to me tlidt, RiiIS
doctrine once firmly established, the Battery
or the old Park, in the commercial naetr0pOliG
0! the Union, would mike the most H19shi6-
cent slave market upjn the confine4H. Il
would largely increase the trade and Busiaa-,
oil That great city, and therefore understand
'hls doctrine has mnny advocates thsre! -
But, Mr. Chairman, there are some atbioga
that gentlemen ought 10 understand. IF tbcy
desire a peaceable separation Of The Union.
ard the organization OF southern conledeu.cy.
they ought to know that it cannot be accom-;
p.ished in the mode they are adopting.
grant you, very freely and frankly that 1 d5
not believe this Government can permanently
be held together by military force. doanot
believe that any section of this ConfedefAcy
VIII ultimately sabjugate and overran the
other, AID bold it as conquered prOyih ,el [
have no idea of iny such thing. 1t is asai IaG
the genius and the spirit of the age. Nobody
would attempt any such thing / regard q
clrII war as really settling the question that
there Is TO be ultimately separate confedera-
! cy. have no idea that s1ch war could end
otherwise than in separation Of this Union,
and the organization Of separate confederacies.
l am perfectly satisfied Of that Anybody
who snpposes that fifteen, or even seven or
elglit OF the States can be held as subjagate1
ana conquered Provinces, makes great Ilis-
take But, whether they can or not, ihoy
ought not to be. 1t is against the spirit anl
the genius of the age and no man ought -
seek to it. But gentlemen must see that By
tine way they are going on with this seceaaiOa
movement, they inevitably bring on civil war;
you cannot break ont of the Union BY force Ox
violence. If we have Government at all, o.
long as that Government remains operative ita
laws must be executed. Why is this GOv-
ernment Is there any such thing as Gov
ernment that permits its flag to be insulte4
and tramped under foot; its laws to be disrS~
garded? Why, sir, when you put BOatOa
court house in claims for the recnptuFe Of q
runaway negro, and the Army and the Navy
were called out to aid you. you did not think
there was any harm in coercion. -..5s,.
NJ. BococK. l do not want TO interrupt
the gentleman without bis consent. have
never done so. .EI
Mr.. STANTON. yield to the gentemAn,
Mr.. BococK. When the Boston court
house was surrounded with Chains and she
Army and the Navy were called out TO deliv-
er up Anthony Barns, a fugitive slave, hadths
State of Massachusetts as sovereignty. Ia.
terposed between her citizens and the Federal
Government .l....l. .-,.47.ors
Mr. STANTON. [ am a sort Of Yankee,
and l woeld answer the gentleman by asking
him whether G,orgia or Louisia ma did aLy such
thing when those States seized the Gouernlnrnt
fortresses within their limits, although thoSS
States have not seeded
Mr. BocoK. They did not; but what thsy
have done was under State authority.
MK. STANTON. We'll, we are in ratheF GHi
interesting position. If we garrisou these fortd
and protect them, gentlemen proclaim thg
that Is coersion, and a provocation for ei.1
war; If we leave them utterly defenseless, aud
Indicate no intention to enforce the laws i'm
mediatelr, they seize aud take possession 81
them themselves, and turn the guns Of She
United States against the constituted aulhVF-
tiles
The gentleman from Georgia Mr.. HULL
III biiAiiho tlAis hlSCuSslOl ID luDDRDIluuot
and perhaps it is but think it well that we
should understand one another. have Ha'd.
in reply 10 the gentleman from Texas, that
these cardinal principles, recognized from he
foundation Of the Government, cannot be sRr5
rendered, let the Consequences be what fh-y
may; and that might as well be understood hrsG
as last But when l say that, ] do not say
that | am not willing to say something, Or ~,
ell to do something, TO remove the delusiOn and
madness which pervade the southern people
The very basis Of this revolution, and the fpFy
ground of this rebellion, is the utter and t6tGf
lnisapprehension of the objects aud purposes
OF the Republican organization, and of the in
coming Administration. Now, hold myself
bound, as a patriot, even in the face or tR'Sa.
demon lratious to do whatever I may to ~.
move this delusion and to correct this mieap
prehension; and if gentlemen will como hers
with a spirit and disposition to be enlighteu-
ell, and to understand the purposes and obi;oLa.
OF the Republican party aud of the incohing
Administration, am prepared to say at onea
what am ready to 10. l undertake to say
that when this Republican Administrators
comes into power, the Government viii be ad-
ministered, so far as this slavery question ID
COsCCillcus IISClnCig do II was D1 @AA huC uG@u
Administrations OF the Government until
within the last twelve years. undertake to
say that the administration Of Mr.. UnsolS
vii! notdifer, in principle nor in practice. oE,
this question, one hair from the adminislratiOs,
o. JEFF rson, Adams, Madison, Monroe, John
Quincy Adams, General Jackson, Gen-gA
Taylor, and perhaps even james X. Polk,
There is not the igrest ground in truth and
reality for all this clamor. / regard it, rRafly
and fntrins cally. as the most grouDdleI and
most unjust rebellion that can be found in the
history Of the word. But being So / do not
claim that the great mass OF the southern peo-
pie are disloyal. l believe they are tabOrmg.
under a misapprchepsion, and that they are
misguided. The rawlings of Garrison and.
Phillips, and of thousand other men VIII
are now gloating over the ruin that ia now inn
p.nding; who are united heart and hand WitS
those in Charleston and South CarolirG who
are seeking to overthrow the country In blSod,
have been disseminated throughout the alavG
States as containing the doctrines ef the Re
publican party; and the p.ople Of the South
acting under that idea, surprising that thst Y.
a true representation Of the Republican par.
ty, are COW, strangely enough, seeking TO ~.
sist this incoming Administration, and 10 pre-
vent it from exercising power over them. -,
Mr.. LEAKE. / want to ask the gentlemNR,
from Ohio, how he can expect that Li1e0lg
eau administer this Government upon The
principles of Jefferson, Madison, Moagpc.
jackson, John Quincy Adams, Harrison, asd,
perhaps, Polk? He said he could DO that;
and l want him to explain how il can bO
done.