New-York daily tribune., 1861-01-19
MISS BREMER'S LIFE IN THE OLD
WORLD.

NDRLD.
rrrF IN THE OLD WORLD; Or, Two WARS IH SwITzER.
IAsp AND Italy. BY FREDRIKA BRENER Translated
by MARY HowITr vols I2mo' L. b. Peterson
Brothers.
In these volumes, the simple hearted Fredrlka
gives record of the feelings awakened in
Swiss and Italian tour, with the same incredible
confidence in her readers, and gentle satisfaction
with herself, which characterized her narrative
of travels in this country, several years ago.
She is too much occupied with her own frames
of mind to permit any special Importance in her
observation of affairs, and instead OF terSe and
animated descriptions of the objects, which usu-
aly challenge the curiosity of tourists, she too
often INDUCES in diffuse and vapld expressions
of personal emotion. Still her book contains
many interesting portions; she meets with some
curious adventures which she relates with VI
yacity; and in spite of the childlike naivete OF
her remarks, they are often suggestive, and are
occasionally seasoned with a spice OF amusing
humor. During her stay in Rome, Miss Bremen
had an extraordinary interview with the Pope
an account of which we present in her own
words:
had now 80 often said 60 viii ask toe Pope!'
that myel became rather curious us to what bis an
swer would be- and resolved 10 make my joke ear
nest had always regarded Pio Mono as an unusually
liberal Catboc ard Ls amiable appearance, az Well
as II liberal sympeties which he ayowed at the Time
of his ascending the Ponlifcal throne, had won my
heart. For there aud other reasons, was glad Io
have an opportunity Of IA nearer view OF no Nono'
preferred my request for an audience through our
Lird and eyer-bcnevolent and polite Scandinavian
Consul, Cayaliere Bravo; and two days. afterward,
early iu tho morning. received command to 90 that
same day TO the Vatican The printed letter by which
this communicated, contained also directions az 70
how war to be dreesed-namely, III black silk, with
a vail.
was in the SALOONS OF the Vatican, to which was
introduced by young page IN scarlet SIX dress Ih
ore large room, ornaIneuted by two largo pictures,
several ladies andsome gentlemen were seated, Wilit
ing for their summons, they also having requested
audiences. The Pope, on Sunday afternoons, gives
audience especially to ladies' who are allowed, how
ever 10 be accompanied by their husbands or cons
We waited about an hour. l contemplated the two
large pictures which occupied two whole walls oil the
apartments, They were paintings OF annlonng qqaii M
ty representing the revelation OF LImmacniaIe IV-
gine TO Flo NOno aud of Lis solemn announcement OF
THE dogma in the Church Of St. Peters.
Tie persons waiting in the room were called IN to
the pote Ia the order Ia which they had arrived. They
went in by twos thfees al Il time. w1s summoned
H. enter alone, hs had come.
Before entering tie PoIes room had to wait yet
little in Il well lighted corridor, where two Cardinals
politely took charge of me. The oldest still young-R
karctome, fair very tall gentleman with quite
worldly sprearauce under the eccleslstie cloak and
cap (hunsgnore di Merode talked about my writings,
with which AIN sure that he WA only acquainted
iron, crIcul notice OF them, which has lately APP
reared Ia a French paper, the C0Hstlfut,oifnck.
He supposed tha, was a Catholic y
/ reIlied in the negative.
. OH bnI YOU must become one You must be con-
verted; you must not stop halfway lady, such as
you AID 20 on.
He was interrupted BY the summons to the Pope I
entered attended by Monsgnored di Merode who knelt
a. 1no, and then lrf aOue Xllh ~ Hs Holt
ntfs."
Igw q, the further end Of IN oblong, light, and
very imply furnished room, man OF stout but hand
some figure standing NJ wrng.table, dressed IN
ons kite garment, with scarlet lapels and cap.
made one low courtesy at the door, another in the
middle Of tie room IN obedience 10 the Popes slgn to
NE 10 advance, aud yet third as ! approached him
and took my stand on the little carpet with him,
vbich did In accordance with his friendly inication
Of biz will For such persons do not kneel 10 the
Pore are required by the ceremonial TO make three
couTtesies or bows.)
The portIaiis Of the Pope are in general like him,
but bic full short and broad counter anoe has, when
een more nearly les expression Of kindness and con-
siderable more OF seiwill and temper than the por-
traits exhibit The glance OF the blue eye ID lively,
but not ptofonnd and II deficient In earnestness The
yesion and physique generally indicate the best OF
beAlth, a good appete-and good cook.
The Pore cast his eye on q written paper which he
held In fs hand and having inquired about my coun-
try and place OF sdenoe, added, " You have written
WgaIf-Yes, your Holiness; novels OF domestic life
more properly descriptions Of life, but in the form OF
uoyels.
The Pope-But you aIe CathoEci
NyseJ-No, your Hohness-n)t n Roman Cath
The Pop,-Tten you must become one. There ia
no completeness or consequence out Of the Catholic
Church.
Myself-Permi, me, your Holiness, to ask ques-
tionl
The Pope-Yes, ask 1t.
Mysit-I love, with my whole heart our Lord and
Mater Jesus Christ. believe in His divinty in his
redeeuing efficacy for and the whole world; will
alone obey and serve Him. Will your Holiness not
acknowledge me ss o Christian 2
The Popo-For Christian 7 Most certainly.
But
MymlJ-And as member of the Church of
Tie Pope-Ye-s in certain ,cnse; but-but
then people must acknowe ledge. as true everything
which this Church says and enjoins. You ought not
in the meantime to believe that the Pope sends to Hell
al who do rot acknowledge the inialbility of the
Catholic Church. No, believe that many persons OF
other creeds may be sayed by living according to the
truth which they acknowledge l believe so, moet
certainly.
My.el-It delights me Infinitely, g hear this from
finding in your Holiness more righteous judge, as
regards these questions than in many other Catholics,
who say, "You are not Chrisiian you cannot be
saved ii you do not in all respects, believe as we and
our Church do"
TIE Pope--In this they are wrong. But you see,
my daughter, people should be able to give account
Of their Christian belief not believe alone in generals
but believe in tie separate parts of q doctrine II is
already something 70 believe in the second person of
the Godhead, and in His ncarnation out 1t 10 neces-
rary also TO believe in the institution which He
founded on earth, otherwise there be in reality
faith in Hin. And people must believe In the Pope.
The Pope h Christs representative on earth. In
Sweden, the people DO not believe on Christ and his
Church; the EXTREMIST intolerance exists toward those
ybn thtnL IN The thare