Ashtabula weekly telegraph. [volume] (Ashtabula, Ohio) 1853-1873, 1861-02-16

PNN -" " "N'e RauOl cphuteUe on
my shoulder, or sword by nv side in its
gliltering scabbard, the insignia Of strife,
OF blood, Of war and carnage. I would
rather see the people Of the U. s. engaged
10 war with every other part Of the bobita.
ble globe, then to engage In war with each
other. IL blood must come, let It come.
Bot let It not be shed by the people Of these
States one eontending sganst snother.
but the Senator from Oregon went still
further, abiding to the senator from Ten.
nessee, as to the action Of nine on certain
resolutions intrdnced by the senator from
Mississippi (Mr Brown.l Nov wish to
ssy here, that had that senator (Mr. Lsne)
avowed such doctrine prior to the Presi.
DENTAL election as he did in his reply TO me,
expressing disunion and secession sentiments
give It as my opinion, he would not have
received 10000 votes In the state Of Ten
nessee. Mr.. j. then read from the record
OF votes, showing that the senators from
South Carolina, os we'll as the Senator from
Oregon, and others, voted agoiust the reso
luton declaring that Slavery needed protcc.
tion. want to know what has brought
such change over the senator's mind since
the last session Of Congress, when the senq-
;or said, under the sanction Of his oath, in
voting against Mr. Browns resolution, that
it was not necessary TO pass laws now to
protect SlaveryH Now he is ready to say
they have the right to go out Of the Uuiun
becense Congres has not passed laws to pro.
tect Slavery, which he then swore were not
necessary. Then other resolutions we're in.
troduced, and Mr. Brown offered an amend
meut, and made and argument to show the
necessity Of passing laws to protect slavery
then. But the senate voted. az TO 8. that
there was no danger, and slavery did not
need protection. Mr. j. read the list Of
votes. Mr. Benjamin, Ave-" and Mr..
Lane---ah, yes, Mr.. Lane OF Oregon swore
on the 25th Of last May that slave proper.
ty did not need protection iu the Territories.
And now want him TO get up here aud
tell the senate and the American people, if
he Is for the right of a State to break up
the Uuion, because she cannot get thot pro-
lection for slave property which he then
swore It did not need. rLnughteI.l Then
the Senator from Oregon, in bis reply to
me, spoke Of the reservations aud conditions
made by the Old Dominion aud by n. Y.
in snrrendering their delegate powers He
spoke with great familiarity of the subject
and the rights Of the states, aud he read
few lines, and then wanted to know IL the
time had not arrived when these states
should resume their delegated powers.
After declaring, under the solemn sanction
Of an oath. that no further protection was
needed, he wants to know now If the time
has not arrived when these stntes will be
justified in breaking up the Confederacy.
Perhaps it might be well to examine book
before speaking of it. do not say this is
the case with the senator, but shall pro-
ceed on the idea that he thought he under.
stood it ALL This is comou misapprehen-
sion. Sometimes 1t arises from want Of
examination, and sometimes it arises from
want of capacity TO understand On ex.
animation, we 6nd that the Committee OF
the Virginia Convention reported resolutions
previous 10 the ratification Of the COnstitu.
tion, providing that certain amendments
ought 10 be referred to the other states.
This was voted down. then the committee
reported the ordinance adopting the con-
stitution oflhe U. S. and in that ordinance
they go on and make preamble and dcclara-
tion of their understanding, but no condl'
tions or reservations. Mr.. j. then read the
ordinance. This was adopted June 20, and
South Carolina, was already in the Union.
So even if Virginia had made reservations
South Carolina could not profit by them,
for she had already adopted the Constitu'
ton. Mr.. Madison received letter from
Mr.. Hamilton, who stated that he had
great doubt as to the ratification in New
York without conditions. One condition
was that they might have permission to re-
eede-recede was the word then-in five or
seven years, if certain amendments were
not ratified. Mr.. Madison writes in reply,
that if the Constitution is adopted, it must
be adopted in toto, without reservation or
condition. Now am inclined to think Mr..
Madison understood this ordinance, and
here is his letter, written in July, in which
he said TO Mr.. Hamilton that the idea Of
reserved right was as bad rs condi-
tional rejection. think james Madison
understood this ordinance, and had as soon
rely on his opinion as on that OF the dislln-
guished Senator from Oregon aud am in
elned to think be understood the whole sub
lecL us well as AuS DeuolOE hOh OlOBout
with all his familiarity with the subject
But the government was formed, the Con
sttntion ratified, and the provision made,
for what For the admission Of new States.
II the express grant to admit be given, l
say that the government can exercise all
the incidents necessary to carry the SdmIS-
sion into effect. Then we come to the state
of Alabama, as the Senator seems to be so
familiar with things of that sort. An act
to enable the people Of Alabama to form a
Constitution and state Government, ahd
for the admission Of such State into the
Union on au equal footing with the original
States, was approved March 2, 1919, aud
the people accepted il with this passage I:
This ordinance is hereby declared nnrevoes.
bic without the consent Of the U. States J"
There is the compact. Yet il is claimed
that Alabama has right 10 60 out OF her
own will, because she cannot get her equal
rights When we are candidate for the
Presidncy, then suppose We are all equal
brethren in this Confederacy. But stter
we have attempted and signally failed OF On
election, then | suppose the enemies line
commences just where our defeat eommen-
eed. Laughter. lMr. johnson then
referred 10 Louisiana, purchased tor the