The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1861-03-12
UNITE;D NTATEs SENATE.
EXTRA SESSION.
WAspyGroN, March II, 1st

WAspNGTos, March II 1861.
THE PROPOSED ExpuIHoS or sENAroR wseskL1-
The Senate ressmed tho consideration Of Nrrosters
vsolution the expulsion OF Senator wgta ant Cling
unans substitute
Mr.. FOSTER (rep) Of Conn ead that he had very few
words TO utter boh tho resolution and substitute
end therefore would into any lengthy discus
oion It was proper ho ehoud state that he offered tho
resolution on his own responsibility and without con-
sulng with any political friends. He had presented TO-
trp, ed Of s atons as il was pes BILE to
do So that might acted on upon its naked merits
A seat in this chamber vac held Q forrdation
higher Than party grounds and hence he trusted that
the senate would rise ABOVE all such consideyaions.
The CONSTITUTION provSes for the qualification end
manner Of election Of Senator's and he read from that
strument the werds uror this subject. II not the
ground thar tho Senator from Texas foreign torn
he was liable objecion. II to be supposed that he
Of this body and In saying tbate was foreigner 1t
be supposed he eant ho born out OF thc urs
diction OF this country. 1t, however, seemed TO him
(Mr Fosier) that tho Senate owed IL to itself not
allow a seat here 70 one who avowed bo
. foreigner and owed allegiance 20 the country
to which he belonged bat 10 foreign government, and
il that government happens TO take up aanc this
government, seitcs It's p-operty AID expcs froEhs
.ory The ro Ooa Mas 1as sy Orcs lame
30 circumsanced longer 10 hold rea here He repeated
he had personal feeling on the cubec He could say
with great proprcty 80 far as his personal reattarc with
the senator from Texas was concerned, they
tircly kind and triedy Ihe substitute of the
sacede ami logical conclusion that In such
she had right 70 coats horc. In ths he differed from
lee lie did not believe any state has the right
power under the constitution, 70 socede take sef
out the Union Of The Statec which 70 make up those
of lie differed widely and radically fronsach
theories. u altogether monstror5 that this govsrn
mont of power and authority, could be dissolved
Argument, therefore, was unrecessary with those who
held TO a different opinion. Two men might well un-
Ger take in "A foreign language which under
stood and the other did not. That no such tAnr
as secession was known to the constitution was
TN M dnrlR
Atera brief argument this point he said whether
Texas has seeded be was not informed lie meant byE
of tho people or some body representing them Ho
should hold that the Senator entitled his seat for
all that, sound constitutional grounds Gould that
State b. withdrawing from the Union withdraw him
from this bodyY No lie is entitled his seat according
the ogs Of the constitution and tho auth rty his
state, and the State has no power legally or constitution
which he elected. He did not think the substit1D
met the question. He did net know what
rat the senator (Mr. Cngmsn) had say that Texas
has seeded from the confedery Of the States and no
longer belongs the United States hut even if there
were Official notice ii would be nullty If state has
withdrawn, and given the Senate Official notice.
what right had they TO say that abe should be longer
enti.od TO representatives They clothed with
such authority
Mr. CINGsAy, (opp) Of N. G., thought that the
Senator had made good argument against his own
solution II they were to credit 1e nswsEapers Texas
accession, which u is stated has bcen ratified by large
vote Of her people that s the opinion of tho senator
from Texas II that be true and the act valid, Texas is
no longer one OF the States. lie took for granted II
fexas has seceded she not entitled to representatives
here The Senator from Connecticut says that the act
IA invalid: tl,sn the Senator from Tcxas Ia entitled
TO hs seat. unless u be said that erroneous
opinion disquasies .hia The opinion Of the sena
tor from Texas Is that his State has seeded. The
senator from Connecticut SAYS Was 10 ever main
tained because senator differed from another
stitutjona question that that for expellng
him. IL might be supposed that the Senate could expe
man who thought and argued that the moon made
Of green cheese-liaughterl.and that such a one
sught tobs driven ou Fifteen senator's have gone out
believing their States haye a right 10 secede. The
mother Of statesmen, Virginia, has always maintained
that opinion If it 10 error for the Senator from
Texas 70 believe his state has right 70 secede, why
not sxpe the virginia Senators and especially why not
awayf Why is 1t that their names are stil called2
They have gone away, showing an utter dsre-
says has taken possession of of the public
property. Is that good reason2 II so, applies with
more force other States than Texas Why did the Sc
nator from Connecticut allow the Of Jefferson Davis
TO be called and not move TO expel him2 Not only had
that gentemen state sececed but he had advised arms
forts 10 be seized and was at the head OF foreign
republics but no motif Is made 10 expel him. The Sena
sad he deemed his duty 10 make motion TO expcl
Mr. wigfall. Senator after Senator had made similar
ayowas and advised their citizens 10 take posses
sion OF the defensive works Of the United States.
senator Toombs declared that he gave such advice.
why then single out the Senator from Texas2 His friend
Mr. wigfai, had said his State has seeded, and with
great fankness added that therefore he regarded him
off an a foreigner. But this did not afford sufficient
round for bis expulsion. He had pursued the policy OF
sther retiring Senators by remaining hero, and was
waiting official information
Mr.. CLARK, (rep.) Of N HE Gays he Is a foreigner.
MIR. CrNGMAy (resuming) His friends said II they 1
thought proper 70 admit him and regard him as Senaor
be did not think proper withdraw until he was off,
,aly notified that Texas has seceeded The course pro-
posed by the Senator from Connecticut was not the proper
,nc All they could do 10 say that the senator from
Texas s mistaken on constitutional and legal point II
TEXAS has not seceeded he Ia entitled 70 bs seat mere,
,otv itn.:andipg the opinion he expresses.
Mr. MASON, f6ppI Of ya remarked that the resolution
clearly for the expulsion OF the Senator flQm Iexs,
or what he had said this floor Tho constitution en-
blos the Senate TO protect Itself aud gives power TO
,cl member, provided that two.thirds vote for the
esoution. But the expulsion OF Senator II punativo In
haracter and the intention OF the Senator from Cgnncct
nut s TO punish the Senator from Texas for what he said
debate. The Senator from Connecticut said what the
enatOr from Texas had avowed inconsistent with |
loldng seat on THE floor. The Senator had declared
bat he was foreigner and not citizen OF tho Unite
ates, but owed allegiance 10 a foreign government.
the Senator from Connecticut thought the Senator from
exas ought not 70 occupy scat here because he Is not
tZcn Of the United States, he ought to 10 rcfcr
he subject to committee, that II the facts warrant,
ho scat will be declared vacant.
Mr.. fosTR 0nterpoeng) asked whether, after tho |
enatfr from Texas Dad been duly elected by his State
nd admitted as member here, they could inquire into
he legality by which he holds his seat now fact rising
rhirh did not EXIT at that time.
Mr.. MASON was very certain II Senator was