The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1861-01-11
NEW YORK HERALD FRIDAY, JANUARY ii, 1861.

~ s,S,;ne ,nS Al, VIII you do nothing but sit
" " seD , Inference Till events shape themselves
TO-, lou cahn1' throw the responsibility the Excel
i've he thrown IL Cd upon you. He has notified
He has sod You the responsibility is upon Congress
coInn .enoe / begun, by involving You take that
~ Ionsibiy, and act upon it, If you viii, the angel
y" peace may yet spread her wings, though II be over
divided States, since the revolution will still go on, in
friendly intercourse with each other acting and reactng
beneicaly upon each other and the commerce of one
may still add to the prosperity the other Thus may
it be, and thus II is in your power to make il.
AT the conclusion OF the speech Of Mr.. Davis, Mr..
TRrMBuII (rep OF H. rose and said that the Senator
from Mississippi had assigned reasons for maintaining the
constitution and preserving the Union When the sen
tor from Mississippi secretly informed, 1t
he was long ago. that the public property of the United
States at Charleston not to be protected he should
have advised at that tine military man. the Presi
dent Of the United States to put the public property
Charleston in position TO be defended Secession then
never would have progressed so far But seems that
given that the United States would
protect itself II seems that II has been said $50 on,
you seeding States, and gather strength the United
States win do nothing 10 protect itself from your as
saults'
Mr. DAvs--I never heard that
Mr. TRuMBrI-I understood the Senator to say that a
pledge been given that the Notifications ut Charleston
should remain as they were.
Mr. DAys--where did you get your information
Mr. TRUMBUII--I don't know.
Mr. DAyIs-ln the newspapersS
Mr. TRuMBUI-I take 1t back il it Is not responsible
but am just informed by Senator's around me that the
ed that Major Anderson win shell Charleston and burn
the ground another gun is fired at the Star of the
West She was permitted TO pass through the noble con-
duct Of Major Anderson He saved the shedding Of blood
thereby
Mr. GRrxs-Docs the Senator (Mr. TrumbuD know on
what grounds and what jus. apprehension Major
Anderson had in leaving Fort Mouie and going TO Fort
SUMTER
Mr. TRuxnuII-I suppose the whole country knows.
Mr. GREES-i do not want suppositions want facts.
Mr. TRUMBuIL-The Senator (Mr. Green) knows very
well that South Carolina pretended sovereign
compelled if her sovereignty is denied, TO assert her
jurisdiction
Mr. GzS-Does her secession imply her right Of juris
dicton over the whole territory.
Mr. TRumBuE-Her secession movement in my jadg-
ment is nothing Uaughter.) II Is nothing but insur
recton But not only South Carolina where they have
pretences that secession is justinabe, which really
amount to nothing, but Georgia and Alabama told
that the public property could be seized without seces
son Yet the senator from Mississippi says that the best
way avoid civil is to withdraw the forces, and
that the flag under which he has often marched should
be taken down and the Palmetto flag up in it's place
The question s Can constitutional liberty be maintained
has this government any power to protect itself? In
other words have we government At alY The people
of Illinois believe we have government and that the
government has power to maintain se-not by making
a civil war--not by inauguratng civil war No, no. We
They who commence the the federal government
inaugurate the When did talk OF coercing
Slater The Senator from Mississippi refers to the
States, when argued that the federal government
could not coerce State. agree with him there. Under
the old confederation the government acted ON tho States
Mr. GREEN repledA State had right in the Territories
because the Territories belonged to all the States.
State had right to go to Territory, but citizen had
want to know whether all the citizens have equal rights
to enjoy their property under the protection OF Iaw2
Mr.. TRukBuI-I deny that any state has right in the
Territories, any more than county has For instance
Missouri and St. Louis equal there.
The debate that here ensued called up the Missouri
compromise.
Mr.. TRUMRUIL said that the Missouri compromise did
not establish slavery south Of SO co. but prohibited
north Of it,
Mr.. Mason (opp) Of va.-The non execution Of the law
in the non savehoding States shows the law to be sub
ject of no value.
Mr. GREEN here got the floor for next Monday.
Mr. MASON moved to postpone the subject until Stur-
day. Agreed to.
Mr. BENJAMIN, (opp) of La moved that the Senate adj
journ, and at quarter past four p NJ the Senate ad
ionrned.