Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-12-13

dinance for the reason that hellefe lhe pio'
posed increase to he unnecessary, and not De
cause Of the gentlemen whose names Il unaer
stand, it is contemplated to present tor the ao
dltional appointments.
| think that, for the short time We have Ia
remain in this condition, we have force enouSL
in that Council.
Mr.. HALL. Of Wctzel-I can very vel
Judge Of the necessity of having some repre-
sentative lrcul the Northwest in this Coun'
Gill;
The people Of that region arc now making
preparations to protect themselves from ioca
traitors, and they should assuredly be PROVIDED
with an armed force md other necessary means
to defend themselves from outside enemies
and with view to afford all tho necessary IN
formation touching the North-W estern country
its wants, needs and proper points OF defence
"a representative from that section ought u
be placed in the Council. We are in bad way
cut there. We have nothing now but oul
mountains and trusty rifles to defend us, anc
We should at least have some one near the STATE
authorities who would present our needs, ano
procure, if possible, the necessary means &c
relieve US from our dangerous condition
shall cheerfuly vote for that ordinance
Mr. DaRMAN.-l understand this ordinance
proposes to increase the number composing
the Advisory Council to five
am not prepare ID to vote for tina: l'Tcpoii
ton. have h.i great doubt in my mind K,
to the propriety Of the organization OF that
body ut all
move that the ordinance be, for the present
laid upon the table
The motion was re- Gjected-ayes g, noes 4G.
Mr.. EAN.r.-I certainly am in favor OF
making some different arrargemen; about the
management Of our affairs.
sln sorry that VIC have retained IN Our
secret sessions reporter to report our debates
to be hereafter published, because | think the
public interests would have been better sub
served ;f we had no reporter at all. | am
afraid, sir, that we have made mistake iii the
organization Of the Advisory Council that we
already have.
VIC have three gentlemen O! eminent abilities
in their particular sphere Of duty bat doubt
very much whether they have sufficient ad-,
minis.7ativc ability TO render their services Of
much value in the capacity in which they are
now serving. One Of the members OF that
Council is Judge Of the Court Of Appeals.
whose whole life has been devoted tn the study
of!aS. We have another y=ntlcu.1n "ho Is Pre-.
sident OF Military Academy in the State, no
doubt, skilled in his profession, but with little
experience in administrative dutiesi and an
other gentleman Of the Naval service Of the
United States who is solely and entirely q
scientific mnn who understands all about cur
rents, the stars. anu who Cal lurettil The COM
in; OF colpris but very rnrcn doubt whether
there is r,ii2ii administrative talent Ill the
whole yOunc...
think there nIgh: 70 be change in this
e; n;g,niz?.ion. WiIa. We stand in need Of now
is administrative talent; = Judge Of the Court
Of Appeals, President of Military Acadr-
my and Superintendent Of an Observatory
arc not very we'll quaislicd to discharge admin
istrativc duties CT the character dcvolTing on
that Council.
would suggest 10 the gentleman who has
this matter in charge, il lla cannot have conf
mi;tee appointed with view TO effect some re-
form in that Council, and create different dc.
par,mcnts with an appropriate organization for
each. The question is, whether we can IN,
prove the present defects in the Council, and
increase its efficiency by adding to it fear
not. While bare the highest respect for the
gentlemen now composing the Advisory Coun-
Gil, | fear, as hare already said, that they 10
not combine the administrative talents ncces-
sary.for tue positions they occupy.
have had some conversation with gen
tlcman who is now in the naval service o!
Virginia, and he assured me that all the naval
operations are in perfect state Of confusion.
They do not kno@, in fact, who has charge OF
them. We have, understand, three com.
mandcrs.in- chief of our navy already appoint
cd; we have number OF major generals,
brgadicr generals, coior.clS ol volunteers
already appointed, and We have found it nc
cessarr to take charge Of these appointments
ourselves.
will submit 10 the gentleman from R!c!i
lrun1 (M. RASDoLrIiD if better arrangement
canuot bc mn'ic hy having this whole SUBJECT
rcfrrrr.i 10 n committee to see il wc cannot
get IL nor: efficient administrative organization
than those We :ia%' l:avY; II We cannot organize
boarG;-a nasal board, and a board Of army
officers to these respective depart.
men,s Of the Government That Will answer
better than our present Arrangement.
Mr. RANpuLru. have no objection to refer
the ordinance to c committee; but am salts.
fed il an addition is made TO the Council OF
two cUmpetent Inen-ol another with the
Lieutenant Govcrnor--thc business ot that
Council will ae efficiently discharged do not
think il is necessary for rs TO organize de-
uartm.uts. Thc lnrrnbGrS Of the Council can
divide the business, ard thus secure as much
efficiency rs il there were Separate boards.
With regard 10 the navy, permit me to say,
tha. there is less c1u!u.ion IN that than any
other Department y! the Government Of Vir-
ginia. l'hcy have already organized Bureaus
bureaus U: Construction, Bureaus Of Ord
nance, Sc think there is more system dis
PLAYED tnero than in any other Department OF
tho newly created Government. We cannot
expect in dag TO bring o;der out Of Chaos
We have just pulled down one government,
and We have now 10 organize new one. 1t is
nos reasonable for gentlemen to complain, be
CAUSE, bva single wave Of The magcan's wand,
YOU cannot have order out of ruin. think
every thing is going on aS well as wo could ex-
l,ec.. We Eg.c CDiTiInauder-in. Chief who is
competent 10 DO his duty. We have the best
talent ia the United States Navy, and think
We have 10 cause whatever 10 complain.
Mr. MAcrAkLASD.-l would suggest that it
is ail-importan. that there should bc an ordi.
nance passed in respect to the Circuit and Dis
trict Courts of the United States.
offer a proposition that Committee be
raisrd to report upon it.
The PREslDENT.-Th ordinance Of the gen.
tleruan from Richmond (Mr. RASDoLPD is not
yet disposed CT.
NJ. EnBr.--I move that the Convention
take recess until o'clock P. II.
Thc motion vas agreed to, and the ConYen'
ton accordingly adjourned till the hour indI-
cltcd
ETEEISG SESSION.
Tie Convention re assembled at the hour
appointed.
MIR SEAwEr.I, Of Glouccster.-By general
curscllt, would ask to submit an amendment
to the amendment offered by the gentleman
from Bedford (Mr. GoGGES) to the ordinance
for the suspension OF debts, and ask that it be
laid urcn the table and printed.
The PEEsIDEHT-The gentleman can oniy
Gffar his amendment by general consent, the
ordinance submitted bs Mr.. RANDOLPH 10 in
crease the nuin5er Of the Advisory Council