Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-03-23

petition any report or any substitute which ne
NAV desire TO offer. But the substitute, when
offered, as is now the case, rs II substitute lot
the whole report Of the Committee on Federal
Relations, cannot of itself receive any amend
ment, by way of substitute, that is to Strike
out the pending amendment and to insert some
thing as q substitute for the whole. IL IS
omen to amendment as is the report OF the
Committee on Federal Relations, both Do.
ing now open for amendment as they STAND
before the committee. Any gentleman VINO
| NAV be dissatisfied with both the report OF the
| committee on Federal Relations, ss well as Win
the substitute offered BY the gentleman from
Harrison, but prefers sou,e other substitute Tor
both. cao only suggest his intention to the
committee to offer an amendment 10 the nature
Of n substitute, when the pending omerdmsnt
| shall have been disposed OF, and state the char
ac,er of his proposed amendment, aud his pu''
pose in proposing to offer it. The Committee
then being in possession OF the contents ano
character of such second substitute, all those
who would agree with the gentleman thus &C.
Al, ing TO offer auch substitute. would unite IN
voting down the substitute now pending, ana
ia giving tho opportunity Of presenting the
second one; and 50 on until a motion 10 strike
GU. and insert some pending substitute, shnii
DO decided in tic atH
The CHAIR hopes that he is nov unGerst0Aa.
! H. will further r~e;larl; TINT the various minor
| ir reports which have been referred 10 the
Committee Of tie Who!c, do no! cone Up al a
; matter Of courSc, but any gentleman desiring
to have action upon sI,y one c. them, may
move i, ~ MI gmendInet.y, by way Of su5stl-
tute.
Mr.. HAEv1E.-I understand The Chair to do.
eide that We Arc TO take separate votes upon
each branch OF the minority report whea We
ca:le 10 act upon it.
The CHAiHMiH.-But Dat no%
Mr.. HARrIE-G Iaean to sag when &c come
to act upon it finally.
Tie CuAiRMAS.-When the Committee
cnmes TO act upon it nanllY g separate vote will
be taken upon each individual propositions.
| The Chair should have added tina: Ii the report
Of the Committee on Federal Relations over.
comes all opposition. and the substitutes are al
voted down, it Will then be open, Us It Is no"
open, to amendment, but the action on each re-
solution being a distinct proposition, adopi'rg
or rejecting it will be final.
Mr.. UARvie Il wish to he Informed w!icta-
CT after We have voted on the various prepcs'-
tons. Of the majority report The vote Will tie ia
hen upon auoFtlhS u uH d Hlicit'
The CuAIRMAS.-l: will Dot
NT. uAIvIE-Ths vote upon the adoption
Of each separate proposition then ID to be
final
The C~uAlKuAx.-After all the propositions
in the nature of q substitute hare been voted
on, if they are all rejected, as the Chair has al
ready slated, the propositions contained IN the
report Of the Committee on Federal Relations
! will be taken up seriatim sid disposed OF, and
there will Os no subsequent vote taken upon
them in committee az IL entirety.
Mr.. fIAAvIg-The reason Of the enquiry l
make is this: | understand that in the report
Of the Peace Confer ence. there was no vote
taken upon the award Of that Conference as IL
whole. Alter separate votes had been taken
upon Inc separate psrts Ct il, the aggregate OF
those parts vas taken to De the sense OF tie
Conference. Now, sir, it may turn out,
md l think very probably will turn cut, that,
while each proposition taken separately, may
get q ~u,ajority CT th;a COMMITTEES, the whole
could not get a MINORITY that tina opinions OF
gentlemen might he Changed by adding on
something TO tIre segregate parts which had
been acted upon. i "isi, therefore, the CHAIR
to consider whether be will entail upon this
Committee as It's judgment, o. tho adoption
Of the rule he has suggested, TIA which, If
voted upon as e whole, wOult! not Ge the judg-
ment Of the Committee.
The C~uAIpaAs.-The Chair will, ms he has
stated, only relax the strict parliamentary rule
so far as to enable gentlemen who oppose the
report Of the Committee Oil Federal Relations
to offer competing propositions. But he repeats
that il that report Urcrcumes the opposition Of
all competing propositions in Committee Of the
Whole, when il ~ finally acted upon, each
proposition viii d. acted upon seridtim nnd
Il adopted, .here will bc % vote taken
Upon The report As ell entirely.
The gentleman from Amelia, Will rrcoi'
lect that tho gentleman from CHARLES Ci'y,
(Mr. TTLsg,) in giving 4 history OF the action
If the Prare Conference stated that ne made
The same decision, and therefore ono 0: Tue
representatives FROM Virgins, who desired a
vote upon the report Us a WHOLE, was utf:'ed
the privilege OF such q Tote. The Chair thinks
The gentleman fran Charles CITY, then tie
presiding officer Of that Pace CoEfsrchce, dc.
cided correctly.
Mr. HARv,r-I ask further for information,
although | suppose ,hore is no doubt about
the fact, whether it will be competent for me,
whenever the question arises, at any stage OF
the proceedings, 10 take az appeal from tie de-
cision Of the Chair.
The CHAIR Certainly.
Mr. HAkrIE-lt is not necessary ihcn she. |
should controvert tire position Of TIE Chhir at
this tune.
The CaAIaMAN-Tne Chair las only thrown
out these suggestions il order that It The CON-
mittre ncquiesce, the uIat;cr may be under.
stood. The gentleman trnt. ilsrTlscu, tN'.
CARLILE.) is entitled to the floor.
Mr. CAgLILE. In support yG the resolutions
which. | have had the nonor u submit 10 the
Committee, and which | propose shall be
adopted as p substitute fer the report male to
the Convention by the i'nmnittre III Federal
Relations. now under consideration IN this Com
mittec, it is not ms purpose TO deta'n this body
with ANY coEmahtS upon the several PROPOSE
tiuns, or upon the macy distractions Contained
ill that report II is sufficient for ny present
purpose to say, that the prtlositioa Tor a Dor.
der slave Stats Conference does not command
the approval Of my Judgment.
Mr.. WIcEnAM-l risc TO a questirnof order.
Without intending TO ,n anything 10 Interfere
with gentlemen, | desire 20 know whether /. IS
III order to have TWO d;sCusslnnS progressing ut
the same time upon tho same subject! That
il the effect, if | understand Alright, Of the
mode OF proceeding now being cnrTied out
The CHAiH-In what respectr
Mr.. WrcKnAa-The gentleman from Angus
ia il entitled TO tho -four upnn the discussion
Of tho SUBJECT before the committee. us has
welded the floor 10 enable ihe gentleman from
Harrison OR. CAvLiLgJ TO introduce n proposl,
tion bearing upon the same subject, which that
gentleman nov proposes to discuss. This, ]
take it, will interfere With the order Of Discus.
sion n, it nov exists.
The CHAIR 1t may interfere, fer, in the
opinion Of the Chair, the fIoT cannot be trans
Gerrsd. The gentleman from Harrison having
obtained the floor, it is competent for him TO
offer any proposition to the Committee no may
think proper. in connection With the subject DO
fore it. The gentleman from Augusta (Mr.
BAipwIs) yielded the 1aor with the under
Standing that ne would have it ,o-norroT.
Mr.. W1cEuAM. As | understand, the gentle
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