New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-02-06

position TO recognize anything bat the normal con.
dition Of these States The President is in no con-
dition TO recognize any new relations. 1t must be
derived from some new grant q authory and, IN the
meantime, what will You doi Willyou make failure
of your Government Will you preserve and enforce
the respect due TO ts flag, and give the protection
which ghtfully belongs to it's property or mott Ihat
is the simple question. Certainly, Sir am sure that
the chivalrous who leading this movement in
the Southern States will to receive the benefits
of our postal laws while they repudiate our revenue
laws and insult our flag. They must mean one thing
or another. They cannot intend to remain, like Mo-
hammeds con, between heaven and earth, neither in
or out of the Union, getting all the benefits that they
can secure and snbecDg us to all its burdens What
do they say They say they are willing to accept the
postal service, paying for IT, but they will not al.
low us to collect the revenue which would 60 toward
defraying the expenses.
Mr.. BRANCH Dem, N. C.)-I would ask the gen.
tleman from New-York TO specify in what State they
have refused to allow the collection OF revenue from
hostages
Mr.. SICKLES-O Sir from hostages. do not
know.
Mr.. COLFAX rep, nd.)-With the genteman's
permission, will state that some Of the posmasters III
Alabama when drafts have been drawn upon them by
the Sixth Auditor OF the Treasury for the Post-Oce
Department, have answered that they would wait I'M
I'll they could ascertain the action Of their State before
paying the drafts.
Mr.. BRANCH-These are cases Of individual post.
masters. But would ask the gentleman from Indiana
il he has any information that in any instance in the
States that have attempted to secede the public author
tiles have ne,ered WITH the collection q the revenue
tion, while am mp, whether the POsmaster-General
has not under existing laws, full power TO discontinue
the serice in all such cases he has alluded to- by
abolishing the offices, or even disseminating the mail
Mr.. COLEAX-I will answer the gentleman that
there is evidence in the Post Office Department that
the mails tempered with in the States that claim to
have seeded and there is no authority by which you
a hai,, 1xrith
man may take letters that do not belong to him from
the mail in the public streets and open them, and there
is tribunal before which he can be brought Tor that
oiense. ] will add, that 1t IL well known thar the
correspondence between this Government and MAJOR
Anderson at Fort Sumter stopped by the authority
Of the Governor Of South Carolina until the Governor
fit 10 allow il TO continue and II Is now continued
only by his liberation.
Mr.. SICKLES-I did not mean TO state that the Con-
vention Legislature of any State had by law taken
the position which adverted 20. meant TO say that
practically and matter Of argument, that was their
attitude and tina, logically il must before long lind lts
position in their legislation suppose Sir that gem
lcmen holding lbcpOsitiODs as PosmasteIs In those
States pay over what they receive TO the
in their vicinity, and then, Sir As we have seen In
Louisiana, the State authorities, after 1t has been col
eced in one mass, appropriate 1t to the local Govern
vernment In that way all the revenues from the
postal service, and all the deposits belonging
TO the United States in thoe SubIreasuIies are secured
10 the insurgent States; and frequently III the SUD
treasures and mints ia those States there are large
amounts of money belonging 10 private individuals,
which are placed there upon deposit placed their Tor
coinage placed there to be weighed and placed there
TO be stamped for expectation. We have no means oil
protecting that private o?ey IN any OF shose
the mint at New orleans a month ago If proposition
had been brought forward for that purpose, because
could not anticipate the security OF the public aud pi-
property there, for that very identical reason
/ will now, in view Of these acts Of spoliation,
withdraw the nails from jurisdiction where
they cannot be protected Mr.. Speaker, we
must not Glove our eyes 10 the new phases winch
events have suceessvey put upon the secession move
ment. IL originated, Sir, as peaceful remedy for
grievances As such had thousands and tens OF thou
sands OF men at the North who disposed to meet
it midway ground and cay, IF you cannot abide
with u.s. bitter the Lesson may be, we will yield 10
your appeals for separation. That was the UeceD-
Der phase of the secession movement. In January 1t
assumed new attitude No longer peaceable, no
longer dIspoesd 10 await the consent the debera
lions OF the Northern States iorcible possession
taken Of forts, and arsenals, aud arms, aud we
were mensced in advance with all the terrors Of civil
war, and degradation to our flag and jurisdiction
was inflicted upon us. When this new phase OF
the secession movement presented those friends
Of the Southern who, up 10 December, defended
il manully, became only the apoogsts Of the erring
acts of their friends. In February it assumes yet
new phase. can only characterize II as the Mexican
method of revolution. When Robes and MiramOn and
Santa Anna engaged in revolutionary movements
and Government cOnducta OF specie comes Within
their reach, ~ IL beEeu uIOn ana ulcy say, we Will
coun, every dollar of the eon and when we settle our
quarrel with you, why, then the money will be all
cafe, and we will ray It over"
Mr. WINSTON dem, y. Gil would AJAX the
gentleman ii he has any information that any money
whatever belonging 20 the Government OF the United
States has been seized by The Governments Of the Sc
ceding States
Mr.. SICKLES-Yes, Sir, have it from the Treasu.
Mr. WINsLow-I sreak now with reference TO
the Sub-IrsasuIies
Mr.. SICKLES-I speak of the bullion belonging 10
the United States about nipe tuns Of silver seized the
other day in Ney-Orlesns.
Mr.. WINSLOW-Does the gentleman rely npon
newspaper reports
Mr.. SiCKLES-No, upon official information.
Mr.. WINSLOW-Ihe same as that published in the
newspapers.
am sorry TO say There has been another mint seized
in Georgia. which is To be held for benefit at some
future day in the general settlement. Now that may
be very proper but am not disposed tp put the mails
in the same process of liquidation, because the rcceva-
bic drafts and warrants the Sub-Treasufies, and
warrants ON the Postmasters in the Seeding
States and all the machinery OF the Govern
ment which relates 20 the public funds, would no;
be in "A good condition OF administration under such
circumstances. But 10 resume at the point where
Welded to my esteemed friend from North Carolina, and
TO bring these remarks to close want TO call the at
tenon OF gentleman again TO these now phases which
this movement in the progress OF events, yielding
entirely 10 the passions Of the hour aud repudi-
ating reason has assumed. In November il was
peaceable secession. We could agree to that.
am for ii. In January i was forcible secession;
and then, Sir, the friends Of peaceable secession
in the North were transformed into timid apollo
gists In February it is spoliation and war Armies
are rai,ed under the guns Of forts belonging to the
United States the jurisdiction OF winch has been coded
10 us by the solemn acts OF the seeding States. heas
ures Of open war yielded to Mexican spoatiOns, and
aay, in the presence of this and last phase of the
secession movement that il have friends in the