The Manitowoc pilot. [volume] (Manitowoc, Wis.) 1859-1932, 1861-02-15
THE PILOT.
Frederika Bremer's Visit to the Pope.

trederlka Bremer's Visit to the Pope
From 1.-TWO Years in Switzerland anc
Italy, an interesting new volume from
the pen Of FaEDgRIKA BaEAER, and re pub
ishel by Peterson & Bro, of Philadelphia
We make the following extract, detailing
the particulars of an interview held by III.
aushoress with his Holiness, Pres TX:
The Pope cast his eye on a written pa
per which he held in his hand and hav
ing inquired about my country and place
Of residence, added, "You have written
sonewhat?'
Myself" Yes, your Holiness; novel,
Of domestic life, more properly description,
Of life, but in the form Of novels"
The Pope" But you are Catholic T.
Myrelf-" No, your Holiness, no. a Ro
man Catholic"
The Pope" Then you must become
one. There is no completeness or conse
quence ont of the Catholic Church"
Myself" Permit me, your Holiness,
to ask question"
The Pope" Yes; ask it."
MyseIf-"I / love with my whole hear!
our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ | be-
lieva in His divinity, in His redeeming g
efficacy for me and the whole world;
will alone obey and serve Him. Will
your Holiness not acknowledge me as a
Christian r
The Pope" For q Christian Mos,
certainly! But"
Myself" Apd a, member of the
Church Of Christ 7"
The Pope" Yes, in certain sense
but-but, then, people mus. acknowledge
as true everything which this Church says
and enjoins. You ought not, in the mean.
time, to believe ,ha. the Pope sends ,o
hell all who do not acknowledge the in
fallibility Of the Catholic Church. No; l
believe that many persons Of other creeds
may be saved by living according to the
truth which they acknowledge. believe
SO, most certainly"
Myself-"lt delights me infinitely to
hear this from your Holiness. Because
have cherished the hope Of finding in your
Holiness more righteous judge as regards
these questions than in many other Cath
olics, who say, You are not Christian
you cannot be saved, if you do not, in all
respects, believe as we and our Church
do"
The Pope" In this they are wrong
But you see, my daughter, people should
ho oh 10 of ba,r
tian belief-not believe alone in generals,
but believe in the separate parts of doc
trine. 1t is already something to believe
in the Second Person Of the Godhead, and
in His incarnation but it is necessary al
SO to believe in the institution which BE
founded on earth, otherwise there can be
no reality, no faith in Him. And people
must believe in the Pope. The Pope is
Christ's representative on earth. In Swe
den, people do not believe in Christ and
his Church. In Sweden the EXTREMIST in
tolerance exists towards those who think
differ emily to themselves. The King there
has twice endeavored to introduce rei>
gious freedom, but they would not have
it."
Myself l know it. your Holiness; but
Sweden in former times suffered from
Catholics In the country. and old laws still
remain unrepealed in consequence. Blu,
it will not be long so, hope. My coun
trymen will learn to have confidence in
the power of truth and of Christianity"
The Pope" Your reigniug Queen is a
Catholic y
Myself" Yes, your Holiness, and the
nobIest Of women, an example to her sex
an ornament to the throne"
The Pope-"All Christian princes and
people ought to believe in the Pope, and
obey him. Their not dong so arises from
pure pride and worldly mind Hence
State Churches have arisen. The Empe
ror of Russia will not acknowledge the
Pope, because he wishes 10 be Pope him
self. Queen Victoria will no. acknowledge
the Pope, because she herself will be Pc.
pess; and SO i. is in every country where
there is State Church. Belief in the
Pope, as the head of the Christian Church
i, ,be only rational and consequen, thing
it is that alone which lead. to unity anc
clearDess. The Church is an organization
a representative monarchy, with its su
preme head a spiritual State. If in I
State people will not obey the supreme
head, then there can be neither clearnes.
nor order; everything becomes confusion
Here ends the extract which has gon.
the rounds Of the newspapers bpt in Mis-,
BREAER's book the dialogue continue.
thus:
Myself" We believe in Je.u, Christ
and acknowledge Him alone as Head o
the Christian Church.
The Pope" But Jesus Chris. is in
Heaven, and must have a representative.
on earth; ard this He appointed in the
first instance in the person of the Apo.,l.
Peter by the words-you understand Lat
inF
Myself" Poed'isinto, your Holiness;
have begun TO learn il lately"
The Pope" Very good then you vii
understand the words, 'Tu es Pe,rus e.
super hanc petram ndifcabo EccIesian
mean, ct porta iuferi non pravalebuu
adversus cam; ct iibi dabo claves colo
rum.' This dignity and this power de-
kcanded from Petar To everv pona wbr