The Union and journal. [volume] (Biddeford, Me.) 1858-1882, 1861-03-29
senator fesseuden's Reply to Douglas.

Senutor
The Congressman GIooe OF the i''n INST Gun
tains q full report OF me debate Nhlen OCCUR
red In the u 3. Senate on the i''n INST. between
Senators Douglas, fessenden ana "hson' on
the resolutions offered oy senator pOugHs
directing the Secretary OF war; 10 eonmuniea'"
to the Senate Information relative 10 the iors'
arsenal', number OF troops where garrisOhea'
and other Information connected win the poH-
cy OF the Administration to"sru' the Ssceuing
States. The object OF MI Douglas was 10
draw from the secretary OF war, some declara-
ton Of the policy OF the administration, and in
aprepared speech Of great length he enforced
his peculiar ideas and gave his opinion relative
10 the questions before the country. In the
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nature occurred between the senator from III
inois, and senator Fessenden of our State, Of
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ura"ing run "r' fs''enus" MS ''s"so' pun
lilo policy and certain declarations ot interest
IN the country.
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We Puoisn oeio" sone eA'aos "Vu' 'ne
Globes report. Aner Douglas had concluded
his speech in which he had assumed an unin-
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to give gratutious advice to the Administration,
he was replied TO by Senator Wilson, Of Mass
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sp'rnod MANNER VINO ss'o nun " I'm :,
derstahd 'nat the republican oena'ors Nouiu
not acknowledge his leadership, and would give
,;,,,s bsed % Z" al,rm sneeches. :, made 20 subj
serve political purposes anu that the adminis-
tration would "a In its own time and in its own
WAY disclose its policy. and through men in
g.,
whom II has confidence.
Mr.. Douglas made brief reply TO Mr.. VIII
son. IN the course Of which he said,-and We
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eo .as our eAus0'S iroii 'ns "'''' ~ 'niS
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But sir, L viii not detain the Senate. -
take no exceptions TO the petulant, irritable,
personal attacks the Senator nom Maine may
make. have been accustomed to that Tor q
long time.
10 may be proper to say that Mr.. Douglas
calls In question the accuracy VI this report,
end protested against its publication in this
shape. He says his remarks was" take no
receptions TO these petulant and Irritating
personal attacks, considering whence they
came"
Mr. Fessenden. What State did the Senator
sayf
Mr. Douglas. did not call any State at oil.
Mr. Fessenden. You said the personal at
tacks OF the Senator from Maine.
The Vice President Senators will address
the Chair.
Mr. Douglas. No, sir 1 said irritating, per.
sonal remarks, from wherever they came. /
said nothing about Maine. The Senator from
Maine Is entirely mistaken. was not thinking
OF him: am sure did not use the word
Mr. Fessenden. The Senator Is entirely mis-
taken. He said the Senator from Maine.
Mr. Douglas. No from wherever they
came"
Mr. Fessenden. The Senator Is mistaken.
Mr. Douglas. The idea that the Senator from
Maine tells me that am mistaken
Mr. fessenden. Wea 50 understood you.
Mr. Douglas. Yes, know but you cannot
understand the truth when IL Is told TO you.
Sir, IL there Is any one parliamentary law OF
courtesy more clear than any other, IL Is, that
when Senator utters a remark, and Is misun-
derstoOd, and corrects the misunderstanding,
every gentleman accepts the correction. There
Is no exception to that rule. Hence, when
told the senator from Maine that did not al
lude TO him, or to his State, he ought to have
accepted It, The Senator from Maine seems TO
think that whenever rise mean him. He Is
entirely mistaken. He attaches more impor-
lance 10 himself than do 10 him. lie Is a very
respectable man, Of very respectable talent,
and debates very well. listen to him with
great del Of pleasure but assure him there
are other people in the Senate than himself !;
and hence IL does not necessarily follow that
allude 20 him when do not call his name or
his State, or say anything that will be applca-
bic 10 him.
But regret this little interruption. My OBJ
ject Is not 10 have any persy nal controversies
with anybody. II will DO very clear 10 the
there was a combination ON that side Of the
House to deprive me OF the power Of speaking.
was ruled out of order in the morning. by a
ruling with no example then refused to be
permitted To explain my own resolution, n
thing never done in the body before and then
when they could not gag me to prevent me FROM
speaking, the only reply Is personal assault
lie II so. You are the majority bat you will
find that the minority have rights, and know
how 10 exercise them and that this gag game
submitted 70 any further than the rules are
imperative.
Mr.. Fessenden. L rise Tor the purpose OF
making q personal explanation, which very
seldom do. when interrupted tne senator,
IL was merely with view To call his attention
10 the fact unwittingly, as 1 supposed, he had
said the Senator nom Maine. when ne meant
the Senator RON Massachuseus
MIR Douglas. NO ! said wherever they
came" That was what you UNDERSTOOD W DC
Maine.
Mr.. Fessenden' The Senator Is mistaken.
II Is impossible for him to admit his mistake /;
but II he will ask his own friends about him, l
think he would be satisfied that he did make
the mistake. All the gentlemen about me
heard what was said distinctly and my own
object was to correct the senator that he might
admit that he meant the Senator from Massa-
chusetts. with whom he was having q eontro-
yersy. supposed it to be q mere slip OF the
ton 10 that fact took no exception TO IL
In any way but Il has resulted in the Senator
speaking precisely as he has with reference To
me matter. and the intention about what a
gentleman would do. and what q gentleman
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