New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1861-02-05

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From Our oen Correspondent ,oc,
ALBANY, Monday, Feb. 4, 1861.
CoNMIssIuNERs To WASHINGTON.
Tie question OF appointing Comml.slohets 70 n'sn
npton m comUliance with the revolutions OF Virginia,
olieed lively and instructive debate in the senate
to-day Mr. Bell offered the following as su3slt9le
for the report Of the Joint Committee as aAehoeu Ny
the assembly:
. A,,bou-h IN Tho OF 'non Of the peore Of the State Of
NeY ofk the Contribution d the United States as It's iEant'
designed forms pefec Union OF The state, estan snse
rroos. the renea Taiy and Liberty
to ourselves and our M b peos any sister State
asking amendment Of this instrument ana %nst '
biz Of virginia invites tho Legislature Of State OF New Old 70
send 1. TO consider and agree uP
ib n E States And whereas only provision for it. alter
amendment is contained article '
The Congress whenever wOhrds Of both brsnchc, s.l
aSm OF n on ns the application The Legislature.
sevela states shan can m S All peu and purposes
part Of his Cop''itt.on when athd - Le IN three
ouhs thereof the other mode Of raheSon ma! 'e
Ry"O5S Rfad That in response the resolution Of the
Geners Assembly Of ys and 10 % ,lI c Leg
GSS 5Oy0rs Of the e rdsy sppe to Congress
ea Convention Of the several States to meet IN ne oy o.
as reque number Of States ,ha have joined in this Ip
Retired Ts the Governor he requested to transmit copy
Of the foregoing preamble and resolution, TO the e VIC
Mr. Bell spoke forcibly in favor of his substitute ana
against the scheme of sending the Commissioner 10
Virginia. Mr. Hammond made good speech, Inil oi
vim and poipt in which lie sad that he Lad no until
very recently entertained any fears OF dssouo "
the Uuou that if he did entertain snch fears AT present.
they arose not from the doings OF the Southern tnos
but from certain indications that the eighteen mcnS
of people Of the North or at least portion VI 'ei
@ Ra1 SeS %1tg S nod i?;.ea 20 he NJ;
nority report against sending commandment RON an
irresistible conviction that his duty 10 the CONSTITUTION
wae paramount 10 all seeming eXigencts ms Sate
ouchi TO insist that the Constitution OF the United
States il bond Of Union strong enough to be just 10
both North and South Nor was IL right for us to con-
fess before the world and he would not confess that
treason and rebellion iuvaidae, weaken the Con-
stituton. New-York wac the balance-wheel oil the
Confederacy and yet, at the demand OF Virginia, Wneh
at that very hour election was in progress TO decide
whether that State should rebel or not,
We were to strike at the Constitution
and inaugurate new system which would es'aehsh
the principle that all that Ia necessary Tor StaG 10
carry point il TO threaten secession and rebellion.
Virginia proposed no guaranty for tie fnture. IDS
was a stock iobbing movement. The people Lad rot
asked for it, 1t was Wall street that had asked the
State 10 prostrate herself before rebellion. We had
Just received information that Louisiana had seized the
United Slater Mint and he wished 10 know wbether
Virginia dtunced that act before Voiug Ior me Com
missonern. Jointly was an excellent thlng, Dul Justice
was the highest order Of comfy. lie would not dis
trust the patriotism OF the people OF The State They
had their constitutional gLts, ard their constitutional
tribunals and until Tie remedies OF these were eX-
hausted, they needed no other.
ask in tie history Of nations, was country aAed 10
propose terms of compromise TO its CITIZENS III rebellion
apaingt its authority When, Sir, the treaHonable
scceders and nullcrS declare their intention TO obey
the laws, then Sir and not till then, will i be our
duty TO propose Gifts of compromise. We VIII 90 ten
steps, it may be TO their one, but Sir hy must take
that ont Of he lines u 0peH Tebe!'o2. can admit
the proprety and perhaps the political cxpediency OF
State Convention like the one that has jnrt assen-
bled here in sending delegates TO confer with others
similarly appointed from other States can conceive
how tmid men crnge before those they iear and,
Sir can appreciate, with infinite dsgust, how pOlili-
clans can eat dirt by the cubic yard butt Sir cannot
and will not permit, by my vote, that the
habit shall be legalized here. l en'Ieat the
Senate to strip ihis measure Of It's partisan de-
vice, and TO cast headlong from this Chamber
this attempt 10 degrade the State by
violation Of the fundamental law. The Commission
proposed is not without precedent. The Delegates to
The Hartford Convention were elected IN like manner,
70 wit by the Legislatures Of the States therein repre-
serted. This alone shoud bring the Senator from the
Thirteenth 10 the support OF the minority report am
quite willing 10 vote alone IN this matter now but The
time il coming fast when the people Of thi, State VIII
II believe they do approve my course. am for tie
Constitution, Sir. Let those who are tired Of It's pro-
lection vote for new remedies.
Mr. Colyin favored the Commission and was very
certain that the Union could not be saved unless the
Republicans should back down from the Chicago plat
form lie spoke at considerable length, but had no
other panaceo for saving the Union.
Nj. Ramsey favored the minority report. He re-
garded the proposition of Virginia little less than
positive insult. New-York had passed resolutions
offering TO the President the help OF the State to en-
force the Constitution and the laws and Virginia sends
hose resolutions back with insult The proposition Of
Virginia is accompanied witra threat which i'll SUBJ I
stance declares that unless NewYork and the other
Free States will comply Wi the propositions Of Vir-
2iDia she will unite with the traitors Of South Caro-
ina in breaking up the Union. lie objected that the .
proposed Convention to be called before the inau-
gurition of the new Administration, thus holding out
threat that Mr.. Lincoln should not be inaugmated
iness the North shall first fOrSwear her principles and
,romise never to elect another Republican President
Mr.. Grant advocated the Commission, but was OPP
,osed 10 coercion.
Mr. IIammond-If the laws are resisted, how will
ION enforce them?
Mr.. Grant, would have stood up manfuliy and
offended the forts and property Of the United States,
ut II the Union is 10 be saved at the point Of the
ayonet by eighteen States against the rest il is not
yOrth saving. will not shoulder my musket to keep
he Union together. Without taking tie question the
enate adjourned.
Hon. .BOI;u Ross az Toronto.
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