Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-15

anon OUR proposed Constitutional alnehalner''
.r;,bout anv resolutions, enunciating mere ao'
.tract PRINCIPLES. The object have IN pro-
sosjnr this amendment is to disenoarrass oul
propositions Of Constitutional Amendment ~
5e presented 10 the other States, OF all coh'
,iderations not exactly german 10 the nat'el'
What we desire fr Virginia and Tor the pro-
lection and the guarantee of her righ!!s' u!e
,nesdnsn,e Of the Federal Constitution 10
rbirh va can command the assent oi oil 1He
S,ares of the Union. But q submission Oh
these abstract principles in the form OF rSo'
iu,inns to the Northern people or to the oihe''
States, will, in my humble estimation, slmPiy
Tend 70 c,nb: rrass the consideration oil lhe
amendments To tue Constitution which "s pre-
nose, We ore anxions that these amendments
re,r,,Id h,r, n candid and fair consideration.
If is tho DC amendments. if adopted, that are :"
sccrr. In NJ; the benefits we desire ana inc
yparantee; of our rights which we desire, ara
not tie adnption Of tie resolutions. ] nope,
therefore. it will be the pleasure Of this Cotn
ri,t, e to allow these propositions to 60 to tEe
Sof,hern reenIe, disembarrassed OF I'LL extra
neous matter Of consideration. 40 that we may
yet Mt the sentiments Of The North upon INC
! amendments to the Constitution alone. 1t IS
in thar respect that We are really interesten'
and in no other, 80 far al the other States are
concerned; ard these are the reasons when
ihara il Gucnccd me 10 move this amendment.
The question was then taken on the amend.
u.n,, and announced by The Chairman 80 car
r;cl in the affirmative.
Mr. SnHFrEy-i call for { division.
fhr. CuArRMaN.-The amendment has heen
agreed 10, and it is now too late To call for q
division.
Mr.. SuErrrY i called for a division inme-
dia,ely upon the Chairs announcing his opln-
Jon ti4t the ayes had il.
TIE CuAIENAN.-The Chair csnno: EoT r1.
terrain a call for Z division. # the gentleman
| called for 4 division, the Chair did not hear
the cali.
Mr.. SHEFFET Task, sir, whether, when the
| Chair Announces upon q Tira rocs Totc, that =
~nGss,;on is carried, or the contrary, lie IS -
he regarded as infulli5ie. had some DOUBT
a., "a the correctness sc the decision ct the
Chair, as 10 the result Of this vote, and. as IS
| known tc riany gentlemen around re, called
i for q dirisinn tie mnluent the Chair anro3=cci
! the result of the vote. accprdin. 10 his estimate.
The CuAlRNAH.-The Chair assures the gen
tleman that he did not hear the call, and in
view of this misunderstanding. the Chair will,
BY general consent, take the vote again.
There bring 10 objection, the question vas
sgain taken by 6 count, and decided in the ii.
tirmatire-ayes &c. noes 81.
Mr. TARR moved 70 strike cut OF the llih sec
Tim that portion: Ct Il section which reads rs
follows
And il! the event that this CoinGia;: E. eait,.
fails TO obtain satisfactory responses to her
r~auuestF, from The non.sluvcholding States, sis
viii f@e! compelled to rss,in= he rowers granted
hv her under the Constitution Of the United
States, and 10 throw hc7sc!! ulnn her reserved
rights"
Sir. WISE demanded TIE yea, and nays,
which were nricled.
The question was then taken and tic amend
rncnt was not agreed to--yras 81. nays 81, as
follows:
YFas.-Mc.Ms. Janner, Ure-!der,,D Aston, BALDWIN. a.
II. Barbour, Iaj Tor, B:r!!1, Bosr"f-, Brorn, Burde't,
Campbell. Garlic. Carter. {. j. Conrad. Conch. ku'iy,
rusa,e, L. B Hall. llsynnnd, Hubbard, jackson, Lewis.
;ieuoira,, McGrew, Marshall, Masters. o.barn, ru,rie:,
l~-ndle,on, Porter, 70. T.. sco::. sharp, sitrrg1oa, c. ).
S,Is-Ner,.-. smtle:, Armstrong, jarea Rarborr,
NJ sry, Elu#, Coi-s-su, 1o.st. Beuitin, Iranc.. Brent.
Bru:e, R:rr-, c"tr!ll. %Ch-rbIis., %Chspgaa: G,aman,
BAL ny. Eipurnoy, French, Garland, G.h--pe. G5s::-n,
fira vcly, Cir. cory. Gcgg!n. John GnoGr, Jr, Th'inn, !,
G""hr, Halo, addison h'i!, cyras Hal, l. ;. iin!,, HIM:
Johnson, =. G. J'hn-iHn, h'u:. Lawson, LeAks, Mac'ri-
i L o%.,, c: n, +. Ms;isr; IL j. ;i B. 4 MsI,s5v n %.,f S M.sts, s M5i IN,
S-.-rn, Or.ick, PARIS. Pu.h. Kichsrd-on, VIA. c seo,i,
scaw.!, sa,G=y, s~iaus'::r, ~soarhall. spr-d, :pu:iock,
r;aplrs, *trang. SuI':rl'n.. T+y!ns, Thornton, T'sa""y,
Tyler. Wg.:r-, W!.oa, und Wise-s!.
The Curimittec then took Il recess mt. :
O'clock.
EVENING SESSION.
The Comnitleo of the Whole resumed It's
session n, i O'clock, P. N. Mr. MnHrAGrE Iii
the Chair.
Inc CHAIRMAN sra:ed that the sie7rnth sec
1inn was still open for Amendment.
Mir. BALDWIN, Of -Algls.a.-1 understand
that The eleventh 3ectiun is still open for
amendment | desire TO suggest and amend
uicnt, which I think obviates an "hjrc
ton well taken by yonr<eifto the CONSTRUCTION
which may be put upon this eleventh section,
hut in regard 20 Hlich | do not think the
sineEdu,ent suggested by You affords a remedy.
1t was appre'ended. as | understood, by you
and the apprehension was c0ncurrsd i'll by
oiliyrS-li.at the dIrcctness Of the appeal pro.
posed in The 'i,h section, Virginia, there.
fore. requests tn" people pf Tie several States"
ruay Le construed into an appeal To the people
in The Sense Of artogo1:SIn AMI !nsuborGina-
ton u reguiar constituted authority. | Go not
Suppose iiat there is any one WhD desires that
we Shall attempt to Institute in any part OF the
IUlll! my ia IAN -
:Ers popular will. would suggest This amend
rnent, which I think obriates the difficulty and
Eleces us in the position Of calling for nothing
more than the expression of the popular will
according tU lis legitimate mode of expression.
Beginning a; the sixth line, which now read,
"virginia, therefore, requests the people Of
the several States, either by popular vote, or
in Conventions similar 10 her own, 10 To-
spond,' &c.
l propose to amend it, so That it would read:
"Tireinia, therefore, desires that The peo
pie Of the several States be called upon to re-
spori either by popular vote or IL Con@en.
tIuIs similar to her own"
The question wis then taken Upon the
amendment, and it Was agreed io-ayeS 45,
nLes 50.
Mr.. GocpE. of Belf"rd.-l propose to strike
aut, in The 18th line. the word Satisfactory,
and insert the word 'taifrmati7e;" so that the
clause would read:
".ind in the event that this Commonwealth
fails to obtain affirmative responses 10 her re- |.
quests, from the non slsveho!ding States, she
will ieel compelled to resume the powers
granted by her unrler the Constitution Of the
United States, and To throw herself upon her
rights"
I 10 not desire - trouble the Contention, :
bit ! Offer ttis amendment from a sense Of
duty. The constituency whom | have the
n part, to represent upon this floor,
were divided 1t the Tine sc the election and
are divided now, upon IN" great question Of i'm.
secession. Rnt ,i!lre was one queS.
ton, ard there is one question, now upon
which ;here was 40 division, upcn wnich
I'll we're sgresd. ard IN. war, that this
Convention should e'iopt sc:oe definite, decided
and fna: %acticr; .:,i | undertake. tr SKY. wi.::-
o"t the icur Of successful contradiction, !ha' It
was The almost universal Seati,ue:: # the
Commonwealth ;i.a; iiis Convention. when We
assembled. yoHld either aCn!;t SONS 6nel &C.
tinn. rr adopt some messcrGS which TGali le.G
- tnst acliGn :-i,h'n snm. .iNrd and definite
pc:iri. N"~, sir, cannOt I've mistaken uron
that Frornsi!icn. des:ra particularly 10 IL.