Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1861-04-23

Low many more days are to be consumed i!
l.! Ii gentlemen insist, notwithstanding il
rumerahIe votes hy yeas and nays, still t.
press amendments, it is ohviau that they hav,
it in their power, so long a, We Tegan il
Committee of the whole, to obstruct anything
like fcal action. The question now before u,
touches the policy Of u conference with Tx
border States. That is & question Of great in
pcrtauce, one, manifestly Oh which to some ex
tent, the opinion o, this body is divided. Bu
tons can bc g:YDn by votes, there seems 10 bl
settled purpose Oh the part ol the maj ajority
Now, the effect Of the proposition OF the
gentleman from Amelia, can bs nothing else,
1t SceuIs 20 me. than 20 embarrass fuic drc
s!ou on this question. The question as to the
time to he given 10 ihs Northern States, is oEl
OF detail one not involved in the principle Of
my amendment; ans! If we undertake now to
agree Oh details, il is manifest that ne will in.
Ctr ths t:az trd. 10 Scms extent, Of having the
judgment Of the committee on the important
question presented by my amendment disturb.
cd. AS that amendment stands, it proposes
To- defer the settlement of tt.ia matter Of detail
"a the proper In0meut-tD the m0uert when
Te cona 10 adjourn this body. insist that
tnat is the proper time 10 settle it, because we
Can only judge then Of lh" reasonable timc 10
oe given to the other States. therefore trus;
il'at !: 'ril. not be the pleasure OF the Commit
Tee 20 concur in the amendment Of the gcntlr.
i!lea from Amelia, but, SO for as tba, portion
OF the proposition is concerned, TO allow it 10
stand III its present form.
vi. ll4Ey!E Il called the attention oe the
COulnl,lce 10 the fact that the gentleman VINO
lnsde the remarks Oh which | commented
failed 10 reply 10 me when the appea! was
made to him.
Mr.. BALpSIS--I was in the act Of getting
up when the gentleman from Fauquicr, (Mr.
K. SCOTT louk the floor.
Dir. HAKvIE.-Thc gentleman ii usually very
rapid when be wants to get the floor watched
the gcntlemar and Gid not See that ne !Yade
any spasmodic movement 20 get up.
Mr. Baldwin, certainly did not make any
"SpasmodIc' movement The spasm which
seesas 70 affect the gentleman has no. attacked
me. L.ughtcr.)
Mr. llaHvrE.-l Rn not certain, Mr Chair.
'na;1, and will rot say tha. any despatch. rithcr
i=legr.Phic OF otherwise, passed between the
gentleman who did reply and the gentleman
who d'd not reply, bu! call attention. to the
TACT that the gentleman who J:! taac the @ ;oi
Old ret reply 10 the appeal winch made and
ut lt;ls line it has gone unrrplied 10. call
attention further, IN the f,cL that any issue
which made IA, not made On the point TO
which the gentleman from Faugaier has ad.
pressed himself, but Oh the point u tie re as.
srulblng Of this Convention AZ any timo after
It adj Ju:m>.
tbs gentleman from FAnquicr says it will
be iime enough Tor Us to settle !his qIestan when
we come 10 adjourn. want ~ know no~, before
voting IN any proposition, WHO it is that are to
perfect these arrangements. want to know
whether these gentlemen E!enn to rely on the
snap Judgment which they got on ns last WIN
Ter ard keep the matter in their own hanis, or
whether they are now wiling to carry out the
spirit Of that appeal and let the people them
srlves decide their future action. Lrng zen.
t!emen to that point Ell not going to make
any side issues with them But call the at.
tenton Of the Committee, and through it OF
lhe community, to the fact that, having by
chance got majority here on points which, in
my opinion, tue people misunderstood, these
gentlemen take advantage Of their position ano
withhold from the people hn opportunity OF
their sentiments as TO what stall DC
the destiny of this State. They ha"s perfected
schemes and put their machinery into opela.
ton so Us to tramms and biad the people
That il the poin! make.
Go not cure whsther you make these re-
sponSes c1rne in October or not all not
afraid Of the appeals Of the gentleman frou
Augusta. tMr BALDWIN, who, in every speech
lio makes, appesls 10 ropular prsjuiiccs, char
acteriziag the men who make movements in
opposition to his as prcc pltatnrs haze 10,
heard speech from him, in the last three days,
which he has not preaced 6y characteTrz
his opponents as pracipators, ind saying lhat
he could expect rnthiug bstter from that Gusr-
tor.
a;r. 2AiDwlN-The gentleman IS mistaken,
i: he Understood Ine Us meaning any personal
jisrcspect
Mr. UAR,IE-None on the face Of tic earth.
sir, but political disrespect But re tries %
get the Judgment Of the Court 1y exciting the
prejudccs uf the Court That is hat COM
PLAIN OF. it is no: fear. 1t is nc. the way in
which the geGtletnan acts in private life, ard
| want Him to use the same candor here a.
his dealings with private inGi-
v;duaIs. With them lie deals on the square
but when he deals with politicians, am afraid
be makes ,nls grains Of al oTance.
Tne question b i,g On II. HAar!E's amend
rnc ut 10 the amendment,
Nj HAarIE demanded toe yess aid nays
Tie yeas and nays wsrn ordered.
The question WAS taken, and it vas decided
in tie n-gative-yeas 81 nays T6-as ("liuw-:
rx.z-M-.srs Amber Jas. Barbour, Elaker, Bosseao.
BUrs. Bnui lii, Bruce, Cah-l reri Chambis Chapman,
Conn., Echrs Pornes, Garland. Graham Gregory GOgsiu
Good-, Jr,l F Goode- Hale. L. ). Rs Harve. uoI
cnnne Hnn,on Is u! keut, aw.on @. b. Mallory, iat
Miller, Norris Morton Richardson, Shrfsr, speer
: anEs, su,hern, 1rsdwsy L. Il. Turner, Tyisr Williams
W.e, Wysor-1L
N.ys-Msssr, Jannsy, Cpres!den,) Armstrong. ason,
BadsIn a. ~. Barbour, Bi,lOr, Beiln BOgSts. Branch
Bru~u Burdett, Burler. tyrn, C.GpO, laT!ile Garter
cloNen. tonrsd G0nFad foufS' I!shsT s.a Ts'
g.t- Gle pc. Grav.sy Cira:, +. b. Hall, iIampol Hay
;aopd. HoIl+dsy. Hubbard Hughes, HUI jsckt0n =. e
). =. Mallory M.rsh,iI Isryr, TasIin Mas ers 81 es
Mocrs orrirk O.brrb, Pnick peLt!,,on. Porter. Price.
PUSH Rve- 70 Scott, Sharp Still stvn, usha srur'
nck, c. J. suari. Svmn.s Tarr Tayoe Wallet WhiIe
sh'tB.It. w!esaau, Wiley, wison-I6
s. the auivndneDi tc tho amendment was
r. ;'c:cd
Drriog ths gu;c, ar Staples stated that he
'.ad pa;r-t of With Mr. NcsLErr, Otherwise
ne should have voted no.
Air. WIsE-I propose to offer another
man from Fsueuicr. propose &c insert he
tween Tie words time" and appointed" The
lords 'to oe"
There is curious proposition here, Sir, and
it is to assume the fact without prcpos ng it
st all, tnat this body is to re.assCuble lhave
heard no proposition TO re assemb'o this body,
onh ~ far as nay vote is concerned, it never
sill assemble again after it has once been in
session Whenever it does adjourn, it will not,
with nj consent, adjourn for Il recess. I;wi!l
ali ,urn according TO the technical phrase,
sins die, sir.
But. sir, it Is assumed here, that :here is
time appointed; not only that, but it would
seem nat there is 4 time appointed f'r tho re-
of this body without any resou.
lion to that effect suppose, though. the
mover Of this proposition had ell the triggers
set, sir-every thing fixed before hand; and,
though lid uct kauw it, nc knew the fact
tia, il vas to re assemble. ! have not beea
;Df.r,naI nj .na fact il il is TO re ns6cD,h Bile