New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-04-05


mittee, said he should have voted in favor Of the
amendmen IL the President and Secretary of War in
their communication in response 10 call of the House,
had said they thought this additional force necessary
but they both studoIsy avoided al expression of opn
ion on the subject.
Mr.. STANTON moved that the subject be made the
special order for Tuesday.
Mr., REAGAN said early action should be taken, in
order that the people of Texas may know whether
they may have hope for protection.
Mr. SHERMAN rep, O. remarked that this amend
ment proposed an appropriation OF 81 OOO II were
better that the bill should be defeated, aud the new
introduced rather than that the Senate should load
it down with irrelevant amendments, and make it a
special order.
The House, by seven majority, refused to make it
the special order for Tuesday.
The House then resumed the consideration Of the
Anti Poygamy bill.
Mr.. KEITT DEM. S. C.) characterized polygamy
as grave and high ohense but denied that Congress
has power on the premises. TWAS not crime against
the United States. Congress cannot legisate wisely
and properly for the Territories. He said that II the
Federal Government had any power whatever in the
natter asserted by gentlemen, 1t had the power TO
make the Territorial Government pass laws ior tne
protection of property and if the Territorial Govern
ment failed TO do this then the Federal Government
could alter the Legislature of that Territory and put
another there which would pass such laws.
Mr. GOOCH REP, Macs offered an amendment
not differing in general principles but in the Details
f,om the bill under consideration. He designed TO
limit its operation to Utah. This Governmen t has the
power and il was its duty not only to declare Polyg
amy q crime, but to provide punishment therefor
Mr.. BARKSDALE Dem, Miss asked the gentle
nan whether, under the same power to prohibit
PClygamy, he would not draw the power to exclude
difference between prohibiting crime and excluding
property from the Territories. What was the gentle
Mr.. GOOCH replied that he and those with whom
he associated were responsible for the introduction
of Slavery into this discussion. The gentleman 10 from
q slaveholding COMMUNICATION the same State as his
Barksdsles) colleague Q4amar), who yesterday
brought Slavery into the consideration of this question
The gentleman from New-York (Olin) alluded to it only
in response to interrogatory. Ga the Republican
sde the institution Of Slavery had not been drawn into
the discussion.
Mr.. BARKSDALE-Then you decline to answer the
Mr.. GOOCH replied that he believed, under the
Constitution Congress has the power to prohibit Slay-
cry in the Territories. When this question comes be-
fore the House, he would tell the gentleman whence
he derived the power. He reviewed the schemes of
his colleague Thayer) and another gentleman lMeCer
mandy, saying it was utterly futile to commit the Nor
mons to the infant settlements of Pixies Peak and
Nevada.
Mr. THAYER REP, Mass sad that one of the
Delegates from those Territories says that they are
entirely willing to take the responsibility, and further
that the MormOns in great numbers, travelling to-
ward Pixies Peak and Carson Valley, to engage in
Mr.. GOOCH had 10 doubt that they were willing
TO do all they could to get Territorial organization
delegates that they wished to have nothing to do with
the Mormons.
Mr.. BRANCH Dem, N. c. called the gentlemans
attention to that part Of the Republican platform which
declares Congress has soveei On power over the Term
tories, and, i'll exercising that power, can prohibit
those twin relics of barbarsm, Polygamy and Slavery
in the Territories.
Mr.. GOOCH replied that they now had one of the
relics of barbarsm here and it their duty to sup
press it. He believed Congress has fal power over
all Ightfu subjects of legislation in the Territories
subject only to the Constitution.
MIR. BRANCH-Do you believe Congress possesses
sovereign power in the Territories?
Mr. GOOCH replied that he believed Congress has
full power, with the limitation named. IL he had been
in the Philadelphia Convention, he wonld not have
used the words "sOvereign power" He did not un-
derstand that Republicans believe Congress can pass
any act in conflict with the Con ytitution.
Mr.. THAYER wished to know what kind OF SOW
ereignty his colleague preferred kind which ex
listed III Egypt under Pharaoh based on corn or 9na'
Mr.. G0OCH replied that as he did not recognize
either kind Of sovereignty, ne could not answer the
question.
or has right to discuss this question 1t was not to
be supposed that bachelor knows much about matri-
mona affars, but those who belong to the matrl-
monia ranks have raised the dhcuses, he hoped the
House would excuse bachelor fof coming IN as
peacemaker in this quarrel. He proceeded to aevo-
cate the bill on the ground that polygamy ID VIOLA
ton of inti vidual rights violation OF all the rights OF
the people Ia wen organized beIftO1les. ClaNoo no
argued in reply to what had been previously said in
the debate, were recognized property, and as such
the holders of slaves entitled to protection he
then proceeded to speak Of the violations OF law py
the Mormons and of their having nstigated the In
dams TO the commission Of crimes and made treaties
with them. -,
MIR. HOOPER DEM, the Delegate from Utah said
some Of these charges emansied from most infamous
source Judge Drummond, who took TO Utah female
not his WIFE and placed her beside him on the bench.
1t was on such representations that the Government
had sent the army against the peaceabe eitzDs OF the
Territory.
Mr.. McCLERNAND Dem, Ill., wished to know
on what authority MIR. Hooper said Judge Drummond
appeared on the Judicial bench with courtesan
Mr.. HOOPER-Fromth the knowledge OF sight seeing
I saw it myself Laughter.
Mr. SIMMS wished 10 know whether or not II was
true that the Mormons declared against the United
States; whether they do not acknowledge the Church
as the only supreme power, ana "hether tney nave
read letter from Camp Floyd, atributng certain vio-
lstiOns of lsw to the kormons.
Mr. HOOPER remarked that some things therein he
knew to be false. The Mormons are fallibe, but
when he heard wholesale charges against them, ana
their being spoken of contemporary 1t made MS
blood course rapidly in his VEINS BE secuted the false
charges and imputatoDs heaped on his people: Az
some other time he would discuss these matters fully
The cOiong of money among the other crlmes at
tributed 10 them This he explained by saying that
after the Mormon battalion were Discharged after the
Mexican war, some went into Col. outefs employ
ment; and while digging race Tor the cons rucuOn OF
mill they made the first gold discovery. On return
mg TO Utah they took their dust with them and hay-
ing constructed rude mut, put il into CON- IL was
pure and answered for circulating purpose in the ALB"
sepce of the coins of the United States and was sub
ect to whatever standard the Government might pre-
scribe. They had right TO change the form OF their
treasure.
Mr.. SIMMS said he could appreciate the feelings OF
the gentleman, aud he had spoken Of poly8amy as
crime against the common law.
Mr.. NELSON Is. Am, Tenn moved the previous
oueftion which occasoned not little confusion, AZ