The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-02-10

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to the other Powers Of Europe. The words, "separae
negotiation" which appeared In the royal Speech led 10
the inference that the proposition had been altogether
dropped, and he should therefore be glad have
information on the subject He hoped should not DO
led into any compact which would bind us 10 an active
interference affairs Of Italy but that the people Of
that coui try would be given to understand that they
wished TO attain their own freedom they must accomplish
oy ner own unaded Efforts and not by foreign assist
ancc He hoped 10 have some satisfactory assurance
rom the government as to the position In which the
Roman States Stood Hitherto Italy hal been sacrinced
In conflict as 10 which Of the two rival Powers-France
or exercise the largest share OF influence
over Italian affairs. But If Italy was to DO created
really Independent nation must be left free to choose
s own constitution and TO establish It's own
without being under foreign dominion or influence.
He trusted that her Maesty's government would, 10
great extent, follow limo OF neutrality in
the affairs OF Central Italy which had been adopted by
s predecessors leaving .he people OF Italy 70 the IN
their future There question which
he should be glad the noble Earl opposite could solve.
WhyDas that that the Austrian troops had scitdrdUw
from the Popal territory the French troops still 1tsedS
Was there any lurking apprehension that If the French
troops Withdrawn from the Milanese or the Roman
States there would be some manifestation OF the people,
which would be anything but favorable 70 the head OF the
government His own opinion was that ths rst step re-
ties must Be The Wstdrowal Of all foreign troops from the
Italian trrItori At present England looked upon
influence the affairs OF Italy, aud he should protest
against any Congress which could bind active inter-
ference or even 10 acquiescence Of policy laid down BY
the majority Of the Powers represented at the Congress-
Hear, hear He did not intend To oppose the address,
put ne wished 70 elicit what course the government IN
Earl GRANVILLE, referring to the policy Of the govern
ment in concluding commercial treaty with France,
French would be advantageous the interests of
this country The great merit Of the treaty due 70
until the matter was brought fairly before their ofdshps;
and with regard 70 the Congress on Italian affairs, he de-
MED that any proposition tor separate action had been
made 10 France by England In August He urged that Il
the duty Of this country as far as possible TO prevent
the armed Interference OF Power with the wishes Of the
ton the part OF the Roman Catholic body OF this
try to treat the question one involving the overthrow
OF the sovereignty of the Pope It purely political
question: and was only regarded such by her Majesty
government.
Earl GREY declined to withdraw the amendment,
Which was negatived without division, and the ad-
dress was agreed TO.
THE ADDRESS IN THE COMMONS.
Her Majesty speech having been read from the chair,
Mr.. ST AumS rose 10 the Address in reply to it,
he passed in review the principal topics alluded to by her
Majesty and especially drew attention to the satisfactory
state Of the relations OF the country with every foreign
Power Although the people OF England did not feel them
selves called upon to interfere in the affairs OF Italy, they
for their indcps There fair chance OF
their realizing their object and the House might rely that
the influence Of her Maestys government whether in
out Of the Congress- would be exerted their behalf
last autumn deplorable had occurred in China,
but he believed that still in the power Of the Chinese
Emperor to obviae the results of that affair by prompt
afonement IT, unfortunately, however he should refuse
they could rely the skill OF their commanders and the
courage Of their to exact ample satisfaction The
difficulty which bad arisen in the Island Of San Juan had
been satisfactorily adjusted and the ia which the
last embeis OF The Indian muny had been exlngished
was equally matter for hearty congratulation. lie
sure that the House would cordially grant her Majesty
every assistance to carry on the public servce and he
looked forward with the greatest confidence to the bill
which was promised TO amend the representation of the
people becoming law during the present session, espe
cally there general consent among all parties
tend
to promote the integrity OF the constitution sad tho
general welfare and contentment OF all classes OF people
! (Cheers The universal enthusiasm With which the
upieer corps have been raised had produced the most
saa,ary effect upon foreign Powers, and proved that
es from the highest to the lowest, determined to
protect their liberties and maintain their independence
Concluded by hoping that the House would join in congr
tulaDg her MBeety the state OF her d0mini0ns. At
home trade was rapidly extending and never before had
there been such Of Iesce and prosperity. Abroad
her condition was the envy Of all natons and her pres
tge such that England enabled 70 her
doaa policy and insist that all nations should be lei TO
administer their affairs they might deem best,
fettered by the dread OF foreign Intervention.
Mr. DsRABII asid that the last session closed with the
question Of the Congress and he was not aware that
SIMILAR question was TO be introduced to night and
enley) passage be introduced the address
OF confidence in the Two noble lords amcrston
ana Russe the part Of himself and friends begged
70 say was there under protest Oaushter) not
bis intention 70 move an amendment TO the address,
but he would make a few remarks on the
regard to the promised Reform Bill, he trusted that
would have this resemblance to the intro.
drced by Lord Derbys government that it would be
measure the tendency which would be to strengthen
and confirm parliamentary Institutions and rot to i'm
pair or change their character He regarded the
mercal relations which TO arise France
England as proof OF cordial good feeling between
two governments but if the proposed were to be
laid before the House, in the shape Of treaty he wishet
to know what the business Of the House would with
gard to It, He had hoped never 10 have seen COM
mercal treaty introduced the House again and could
rcnnld
have made the proposed changes without having
such instrument They had often been told mat the
member Tor Rochdale was the individual whom they
were indebted for increased commercial relations with
France but be was the honorable member would be
the last person to consent - q commercial treaty
founded on the principle Of reciprocity In 1855 the En-
peror OF the French made similar proposition the ono
which he had lately addressed to the Legislature His Ma
esy then proposed the extinction of the pro hbve
system. On that occasion bill mir oduced into the
French legislature and although to the laeness of
the session. the bill did not pass the Emperor considered
the subject OF such Importance that he referred
the departmental councils of France, which, with the
cepuon OF SIX, agreed TO the proposition the under
standing that time elapse before the ne "
system came into operation The final determination of
the Emperor that the change should take place in
July, 1861 the very which tho House was led 10
believe tho ate ations proposed 70 be carried
into effect II the Ministers were, therefore, making
concessions, they doing changes which
would inevitably have taken place without such
sions concessions were to be made he desired tho. they
should De made scientific principles and the prici
ole Of reciprocity, 'cieh hereafter could prove dangerous
precedent The policy Of the government with reepect
Cuma would before long come under discussion aud
only alluded TO It In order pass well deserved eulogy
on the bravery OF our troops in the disastrous
on ne feiho Tie subject Of Italy was treated at
siderable length in her Majesy's speech but he was
unable to gather from the shape of our DIPLOMATS
relations with France, with regard to the of
country. he baa however, obtained information from
foreign source and the need be surprised
when he asked them TO give some explanations TO the
House what had taken place since the propagation
The right honorable gentlemen then reviewed the policy of
LORD Derby government a5 respected Italian affairs, and
defended their adoption aud maintenance of the principle
of non Intervention He maintained that IL was not tue
duty Of England to go into Congress lend its sane.
ton TO engagements which might disturb its relations
with other Powers and involve in the risk OF future