, 1860-01-24

had said as 4 lawyer thut, uccordiuy to every
fair construction Of law or language, the kati-
sas-Ncbraska bill upon its fssce enye tn the
people Of the Territory, whiie in Territorial
condition, tic right to form and regulate their
own domestic institutions, including stavery, in
their own way. lie was member Of the Ton
grcss that passed The bill against the opposition
and Knew that that was its contemnoruncous
construction w nine: ten.hs Of those who yott d
Tor IT, While that law ren,nined upon the 4lat-
ute book, and while the people OF Kansas and
Nebraska, who were affected by it, had leg;s.
lated against slavery, Le would never, % l.rlp
n'm God, vote to put slavery upon thcia fer-apy
thlng whatever, in any way, manner. share or
form. They must reycl Sc tie action of Congress-
before that could be done. Whenever the peo-
nle Of those Territories indicated their OPPOSE
ition to slavery, as Sou :lern nah, looking IS
tthe interests ot the South, he would noa inter-
.terc: LIE balicved it would be doing The Sou,',
;an injury. and. That, in his Judgment. wns the
iop'n!on OF. thax people he represented, While
ithe kansas-Nebrasku biN wns the law Of Tie
tsn;l 1an: nc was hound by ittand roqld not inter
MIR; BofE1rnfof virginis,. said the Southern
:peo.lc hrld slaresbeforc ttS Constitution, they
,,wonld continue to hold thenp in despite Of uuy
intcrprctation which might be put Is majority
upon that Constitution. The Territories were
common property of alt the States, and The pco.
pic Of every State lad right to 80 into The
Territories and carry their property with them,
The Constitution Of the United States voufi be
= tue shield aud protection Of every man in the
peace:ul tenure Of his property while iu the
Territories. and no Legislation ii the Territory,
before It becomes State, could Interfere in any
manner with the right to hold that property.
Mr.. CaRTEE.--Are you in favor OF any action
" Constess III relation to SLAVERY in the Terri
toriess
Mr.. Do1E1Ea.-.By Congress. by the Exccu-
tive, mud by a'l the powers Of this Government
10 protect Tue rights Of every citizen in th- Ter
1itories. [Applause.]
. Mr. MoonE, Of Alabama, was III favor Of. Con.
gressioEal stave code fos the Territories, If gen
tle1nen pleased to call it by tint name. That
question bud received the appreciation Of tn.
people Of his District. He was in faror OF uro
Property in the Territories of this Government
These Territories were acquired by the cam.
tnon blood and treasure of the people,
Mr. CAnrEE Gu.erruptiug) said lie did mt
yield for speech, and would insist on his right
to the Ioor. The gentleman had answered lis
question, aud lie was much obliged to him.
Mr. Noong.-iou are exceedingly welcome.
sir. Laughter.]
Mr. BIiGcs, OF New York, had not fully IN.
derstood the views Of his friend from Virginia
in regard to slavery in the Territories While
be agreed with him in the main that the Con>t-
tuition recognizes slavery, he had never leea of
the opinion himself That the Constitution cx-
actly establishes slavery. While he agreed
with his friend from Virginia in his consiruc-
t;on Of the Constitution, That slave property is
recognized by it, he never had felt or believed
that there WAS any necessity for Congressional
Legislation to give protection beyond what tLa
Constitution affords to all the rights of u'l tka
people OF tile Union. In regard to slayery in
the Territories, lie believed in the doctrine oi
rnpI.1r n DRY Mi inn
proclaiuCst by the distinguished Senator from,
illinois. He held tint the people Of the Terri
tories have right to dispose Of and settle that
question in their own way, whenever they as
scmble Tor the purpose of considering that
question. That was the condition of kuuEas
now. The people Of that Territory had adopt
ed Stase Con>titutiou prohibiting slavery, Us
they had rig!stto 10. lie regarded the En.-
llsh bill Us unjust'y restrictive in requiring i.
population Of ninety-threc thousand, prtlioai.
nary to admission ns q State and condemned
such partial legislation. lie would feel it his
duty 10 vote for il.c admission Of Kansas upon
her present application Since his colleague
WAS cndeasor'uE to make point upon him or
dlSparnge lis position, lie would say to him
that, notwithstanding the opinions expressed
BY his friend from Virginia, lie would rott for
him Tor Speaker infinitely sooner than for uuy
gentleman who would endorse the sentiments
contained in the Helper book: (applause.1
Dir. CANTEn supposed the gcntten'an's eAp1a-
nation was clear 10 others, but he ls. failed to
eotnpre'lend it. lie understood the Southern
ptr5y was in favor Of this pro-siavcry iegi,la.
tlon. und could not rotc with them. because it
would viuEate the principle upon which lie rus
elected, and which he understood to govern the
American party in his district. 4 humber oil
the .iuti-Lcconlrton Democrats yotch with iIin
tur Mr.. Sherman, who had always been :. Wl.ig.
It WAS true, he (Mr. 81 recommended tie
nh hpft I.tyft Int NJ =
dis1r0r.I its tthtimtnts tohin if not to the sat-
istactlon Of every man on that tlnor. IL. had
aaS fa:s5;Hy r. co"s:~m T. nd 't s oTre aa e'f 1
rits Or e ttGce or 4uiefatss Of tie peop2< of dny
pare Of this country. If he bud not 50 done, lei
him now rise in his place aud deny it.
Mr. SHERMAN bowed assent.
Mr.. GARrEn.-Iic asscuts to the fact that he
has so stated to inc.
Nr. McRAE Of Mississippi. desired to sag he
did not assent to---
Mr- CARrEE.-Not now, not now. am yery
much engaged here. Laushtcs.l
Some confusion ensued, several gentlemen
calling the gentleman from Mississippi to
order.
Mr. McRAE said il the gentleman declined 10
yield, Of c"nrsc he would nat interrupt him.
Mr. CARTER said be understood Mr. Sherman
to he, like Henry Clay, opposed ouly to the ex-
tension Of slavery into Territories NOW free, If
aLto carry it into erery STATE in tie Union. II
this were slave Government, under Const.-
tuition protecting slave property, thtn no STATE
co"Ll pass ka7cs dgdintt It /: hut he understood
Il c Constitution to acknowledge the right Of the
Sovereign State to prohibit s]nvery. No fuui-
tire sla' e could he reclaimed under the rcodi-
lion clause except upon the ground that lie has
violated tic Sovereignty Of the State from wllicl,
he hYs escaped by violating the laws If the
master takes his slave out OF his State, and lie
then escapes, he cannot reclaim him. but it BE-
escnncs LIE nny be reclaimed, because the gene
ral Government is bound to protect tue sovc-
rei.nty Of every State.
But this was not the time 10 discuss s,lc],
Questions. Their business was to organize 60
that the honest creditors Of the Government
may he paid. 4 natioI,'s credit is nations
homer. Let them return to their duty and re-
pair the mischief which has been done ~ much
as possible. lie had voted for an Ant.Lecomp-
ton Democrat, and was ready to do so again if
he could be elected. lie had voted far Mr..
Sherman because he was an honorable, high
minded man, well qualified for the position, snd
had qtren him his arori thak he .coutI so osvaai-e
tie House to DO usfltt to all 5,arfit<, amt fhut
no sectional ritsrs shoul4 control him. lie knew
linn to be conservative man. lie Ind seen no
time when he thought an organization was nos
si6le, but he regarded it Us reasonable to the
spirit Of Democracy to deny the right Of one or
the other Of the two great parties here to The
Spcakership. Those wi,o had refused to select
from, the candidates Of those two parties we're
responsible for the Reorganization. This
lIouse could never be organized by fostering
dscordant cllques md factions striving for per-
sonal power aud ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. Party spirit
might bc necessary, but it should be made to
yield to the great interests Of the country. He
condemned the pernicious sentiment tllat *to
the victors belong the spoils," Eic.ors over
whom: Spells Of what: This Government
was established for tue protection a. tile weak.
not for despolling them. They couaknot expect
honest Office e-holders 70 long as such principle
obtains iu all party organizations. Party spirit
was the barc Of the cauatry. aud be believed
there was purity and intelligence enough iu the
people to put down official corruption, if they
would first free themselves from the trammeis
Of party. This Government was the strongest
and most perfect that ever emnnated from the
hands Of man, but needed 10 be administered
upon true Democratic principles
Mr.. McRaE, OF Mississippi, wanted the gen.
t]eu1an to put his question as to slarc coie 10
the American candidate, Mr.. Gilmer. .
Mr. CAnrEn declined, as he bud already given
everybody an opportunity 10 answer. lie would
lsk the Northern Democracy If tlley we're in
favor Of Territorial slave codcs
Mn- MORRIS, Of lllinoi.-1 am not.
Nr. MckAE would himself put the question to
The American candidate.
\ confused discussion cnsued rs to who was
entitled to tue floor.
Mr.. 3fckAE sail lie would giFc his views on
he subject Of slave code, and asked for tue
.eadng os letter written by him, which took
hc ground that neithtr Congress nor 7sr,5fo-
-tal Lyi6tut"tt Aas po'rr to jaxs l1Us natri<nd-
y TO tlartry, md il such laws were passed by II
Territory, II tras tie duty Of Congress to- iafty-
frt. IL would not ask for Cong gressi0nnl leg