The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-03-23

Was the first Time ever heard Ihave heard the same
Q Do You NOT know that said remark was brouyhs
about relation TO virtue and chastity Objectsd 70 b.
plaintiff 9 counsel as Irrelevant.
A. do not.
Q. What did she mean by thaa Objected to by plan
A. don know; It is so long since that can form n,
idea; knew DAVID Titop, George Joseph Hopkins and
Henry Jackson strikes me that said jackson and II soa
boarded with plaintiff father; have IIitou tng
upon the plaiDuh in the street
Q Have you ever seen the plaintiff or her sister Mry
out al night 10 Brooklyn or New York;
a No, sir, except when going 70 or returning from
church or when visiting tho neghbors have been with
them myself
Q Have you ever known plaintiff 10 come TO New York
A--ibsYe not; have waited on plaintiff down to tho
ferryboa hst runs from Brooklyn 70 New York ysel
u wss in the afternoon, but don't rec0ect the hour
lever knew her TO the ferry later than that have
visited plaintiff when she lived Ut any other pace
than her athers do not know where plain IFS father
died; he had small rope or twne walk, or s, netting
OF that na,vre ID IT, and consequently
say do not know Of his having any other business u
that he reputation Of owning che house he lived
In and presume he did should suppose that that aad
the lot was worth at that time about 500 50 600
passed into other hands canSoi cay thai be carried on
the said walk up to lifetime Of bis death, when the
property passed into other hands, said house and LOT
are osned by David Tlton, but he Is the one
have before spoken Of II mistake not David Titon
Owned the house Ave or six years ago. do not know that
house and lO, but ho might have had b.. don't know
DO rot Know OF his having claimed exercised control
wife Of David sesmes Know nothing about the epu.s
non Of HE house kept by Mrs sesnen Kent avenue,
Crossexemtped-I do rot know that plaintiffs father
was Methodist mirs,er but know he used to on ,ise
occasionally when HE services required; have
READY to exhcrt don't think he the local preacher
but he may have been; about this time an Episcopal
church bni't in ghborhood cpd my father aud
family wopt TO II, ard after that did not much
about the Methods, church.
@. Vas no plaiptGs father regarded as an emnently
erh Amin I'm af1t I'm Eoaaw ktorx
A. b. tn church people he very much respected
and liked, but outside be not
Q Was not his family raised vrtuous and good girls
IVY their pRreutss (Osjcc,ed to By defence) :"
A. suppose they were; when first knew them they
we're girls eighteen or twenty years old suppose had
no mans OF knowing how they raisod bat they Ap
peaIed 20 be raised Az time called upon plaintiff
10 escort her to place, and word given to
the door that she not home but supposed she
st home and soc went with else; felt the
slight, PROBABLY at the time but got IT, and visited
there aiier and introduced TO the plaintiff parcu
lar ierd OF mine have no feeling against her now.
Direct examination resuDedI cannot recollect posi-.
lively that have ever heard plaintiffs father preach from
heard anything said about his honesty bis business
transactions Know nothing; think is very likely that
aiu.iG counsel cbjecs) have known said Carstang
girls play cards at their fstbers house, 1t strikes me
that have played cards with them one or two occa
Sons, never saw them play anywhere else.
O. dave you known the Carstang girls 10 be playing
CARDS in their fathers house while their parents
worfhpppg in other parts Of the houseY
A. won't say positively but II strikes me very forc
bly, that ead girls playing cards in one room while
thing Of that kind being held Ii the front room; think
was IN the game.
60 far as you understood IT, was not the character Of
the Hampstead and Carsapg girls for virtue aud chastity
below par? (Objec.ed to by plaintiffs counsel)
A. Idont think their regulations were on par
q Which regulations OF the two families OF girls
the worstS Objected to by plaintiffs counsel)
A. That OF the Hempktead girls by far.
Did you ever SEQ Old man Csrstang out a. late hours
Al mighty Objected to by plaintiffs Attorney
A. have.
@ How oitcn9
A Two or three tines perhaps but once or twice.
Q. How late did you ever see him out al night
A. Once IS late az twelve one O'Clock.
Q Wha! was he doinss 'r
I'D you ever see him in the vicinity Of, or coming
from the direction Of any immoral woman
Nashapiel Mcdonald sworn-Kuew Blackburn we oocu.
pied the same Office; Mics Carstang called there
anonymous note. asking 70 be In my Office at bali
past six; did 80 and the plaintiff there, under
with blackburn and wanted to get the letters that were
in his desk told her had nothing to do with IT, and
must call again have the synonymous note; witness
Iackland) my impression is she asked whether had
ceived the note.
Judge Lakeland offered the note in evidence II is es
follows
Mr. McD.--Dser sir: called on Saturday evening as
agreed did not see you WI you not do me the kind.
evening. If II should interfere with any prior engage
nent please leave note when would DO convenient to
see me- Yours respectfully,
81. LOUIS, Nov s
The plaintiffs counsel ohjscted TO the proof
Witness continued-Think that Blackburn killed on
the first day Of November, 1856; had agreement to
meet her tbere she said shs didn't the letters TO
get into other hands, as they prva she used
raj terms In telling she didn't want any body else TO
the letters; understood that they not business
letters; understood this from wha. she said me- she
didn't cay how many there were she said she thought
they were in BAckbuans desk, and he only had one
desk, and she told where she lived, aud invited me to
call and see never called never saw her again till this
unit wa Rac Ghpru
to her house, she seemed 70 have strong desire and
anxious get the letters don't think she said she would
She said she was anxious that nobody ee should gc hold
Of those letters that they concerned nobody but Black
into other hands she said he was iend or de g
friend afterwards the deck opened letters from
her 70 were found; Mr.. Shreve, Mr. Dorset and Mr.
Trnbull present when the desk was opened come
two three weeks elapsed between the time Of her call
and the opening OF the DESK never letter from
Blackburn to Miss c; ore day saw commencement
of letter in bis handwriting my desk; commenced
"My Dear Ene, and seemed to be an apology for NOT
calling to see her.
Croesexamined--I didn't hear the Judge Just now tell
me not TO repeat the contents Of that letter.
Q. by Mr.. sbreve-wha. were your motives In SNUG.
glirs that matter before the jury
Al didn't smugsle Il before the court; In the
habit Of smuggling anything, Mr.. Shrcve.
herself Miss Carstang if the lady now in court will raise
her veil can say whether she Is the not Miss
Carsang raised her veil at request Of her counse yes
she "a the lady don't remember that she express
y told they not business letters gave my depo
elton months ago.
ON that Deposition you asserted that she did not
state they not business etterswas that correct?
Alt vas
The Court took recess III half past two O'Clock.
On re assembling the defence called on SIrs Jones.
Mrs. Jones swcrnI know the general reputation Of
Mrs seamen IN The country for virtue and chastity bad
live nine miles from town know that the general repu.
tA.ion Of Mss Ee Carsang for virtue and chastity in my
neighborhood, is not good
tross exaruued-IIiye abou. nine miles from St. Louis
In Central Township, about half mile from John Bray
have Mrs Seanen at parties her the last 4h Of
July have her half dozen times; my husband lives
at same place with me- don't know that spoke to
Mrs seamen knew her in 1913 and beginning OF 40 she
was living, remember on the River dc Pere don't know
where, don't know anybody who visited her but Mrs.
Bray don't know bow long she remained that neigh
borbood; WAS AZ least year, 10 my knowledge; mean
by general reputaonvirtne and bad character speak
from what others have said and from what have myself
seem have seen her at public places not behaving her.
ee my noghbors said 50; Mrs Walton, my mother, for