The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-09-07

The Alleged Insurance Frauds
CONTINUATION OF THE EXAMINATION BEyoRn JUSTICE
COl0oLLY-xvDKNCE or PRANK \. LANCASTER AND
JOSE N0vAKno-ANoTHxR ARRxsr-YREeH cHARGDs
10 N PREyKRRxD.
me examination in the case Of the alleged insurance
frauds, in connection with the loss Of the bark E A.
Knan continued yesterday morning. before Justice
Connolly, at the Jefferson Market Polioe Court.
Frank E lancaster dspOssd - folows:-I have known
NJ Pedyajas for eight ten years; have been clerk
IN his employ, and nom time TO time have had business
transactions with HIM exhibit No - not in my hand
writing; was not made out b. my direction; did not
ss carriage 10 NJ Pedrajas the 2sh Of Nay, lsco
nsver sold him carriage sold him double set
q harness, o. any set Of harness.
Csos exaninsd-I an broker. and do business At No.
n Beaver street. have lived In New York about eight
or tsn years; have been out Of the city; was
spoken 10 BY some one in reference 10 becoming .
witness in this cass, but don't recollect
who; don't rscolect whether any one showed mo tha
exhibit bsfors today not would mot swear that IL hA
o. has not been shown 70 before 70 day; mot
TAIN whether this v The nrst time IL was shown me or
tsssinony; / Know Captain wsIins; don't rsoousct
whether he spoke 70 mo about or not; know nothing
about the carriage the bill have been u number Of
Lancaster Of In the city; alone In business;
went 70 the companies business could not
ss,s va 3 M 1s nss or
pany, but how lately could not say don't recooct what
went thsre about, but suppose u was on some nsu
Jose Novsrro vas then no examined - roows-I do bu
sness d No "a change place. tho partners In house
are Mora Antonio Nora and myself advances
On the bark Knsman and cargo were not made any
other person than D. Mills; the payments BY order OF
Mr. Mills made in different amounts 70 different par
Agreement ws noSaed E NJ Pssrs;s advised us n re-
ation 70 the A. Kinsman about the ID Of June he sad
that NJ Mills had some goods board the T. A. Kins
nan, bound for Havana; that he Wished TO send them
consigned 70 our house there, and asked whether
would advance upon tho cargo receiving, Of course the
Q. Did anything else transpirei A. the arrangement
IVES mot perfected then; had other interviews, In
which We made the arrangement with Mr.. Mills and Mr.
O. In your interviews with Mr. Mills and Mr. Pedrajas
tall 10 what took placer A. Mr. Mills proposed that We
should buy the A. Knsman for him. be said tho vessel
WAS very cheap and that had parties Havana ready
70 buy her there for 900 or - oo0 he wished then
that Nc would advance the necessary amount 70 buy the
vessel and pay 900 70 Mr.. Psdrajas also 70 advance
some smaller amounts for victuains the vessel and ad
vancipg the crew.
A. On the goods and On tho vessel; hs Ad The goods
were board that they worth o,ooo and that
be would show us the vouchers be told Us The general
he stated; ssssnted TO his proposition in general
terms paid the St sum Of money on the otn Of June
psDs The money n ~ We dd not ,ss
general cargo Of merchandise, such - " usually
sent TO Havana found discrepancy between Nils
goods shipped BY 1s very ~ soon @ I s,sr S the 9Th Of
June; have got . COPY Of the invoice but
have not s vs y, me 4, the orig Srsns, a
my possession; the invoice was len In our Office By Mr.
dorsuene; The invoice made out By Mr. dorguerre
Us q favor shat d6rsusrre should be allowed = make
cut ffom them tbs advance was made on this invoice
=, 80 -. a.. ~,... .Sv..c.6 .rh -. the
dsies, (obscssd 2 by t6s ccus:: %, the, the dss.scs
pad Is 600 % J. n xscas, and s2oo o. % waAh %.
Tor shipping the the sth, sz a 70 bearer for
posags the 9th, ssoc - 70 swf Co on the isth,
snos; On July a. 800 70 oapsaa Downs; the 12sh
as ce ezo d 2 % fur ns.rsace On cssgo md y 900
by PedSsjas; the last item was n order Of Mills
o. M IN fAvcr q J, g psds9lss; tAs tosal
Va made IN acoordsncs win he ;ssns q he orsns
q Was i part Of shs original ssrss.sss that Psdn.s
donr know that thers was any such ooudiliou; u was
spoken o. but there was condition should have
completed the arransensat without that condition, but m
W., y. s:ss ~, p.yH: sa 2. believe : ne
he counsel moved % riis ous the above question and
but the Court, afser considerable dscusos,
Eraninsiion coatnusd--My clerk, Mr. D'orgusrrs can
tell you more about exhibits l. snd than can, - he
had charge Of these matsers
O. Who was Treseos Il your srasgement with Mr.
Niss A. We did mAke any private thing Of 10; all
the clerks were there, think.
Q Was Pedrsas theres A. Re was there at some Of
the interviews.
O was anything sa,d by Mills or pedrsjas In references
10 lrsurIng the goods, A. don't reaember
O. Did you insure In pursuance of request rom these
peoples A. II may be that had = request TO do
O. You heard OF the loss Of the T. A. Kinsmanf A. We
did through our house In Havana, TO whom the vessel
vas copsgped.
o And you Informed tho insurance companies Of The
loss A. did.
TIC Court here announced that the hour Of adjournment
had arrived and wished The counsel would az upon
time for . future sittipg Amer some delay IL
ranged that the should be adjourned until Monday
pe1t A. NJ Before sdourning the counsel for the
prosecution gave notice of his nsntion 10 include the
charge Of se pretencc the Investigation and stated
that he would be prepared with the necessary adavix
at the next sitting of the court.
Mr.. u. e. Nils, who N charged with being Of the
rpreaders IN the alleged attempt at fraud present
during the Investigation lie had been arrested the pre-
vous day at southold, T. L. and brought 70 the city by
special Deputy shcrr Iily. me magStrate nxcd the
amount ohs bail at % 600 and he placed In charge
until the could