New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-04-14

tlem8u OF The CtD6f tf0S mcfo m'che'n
a VoYcr-Some of The greatest minds Of the country
have mot been able 10 understand the rule.
M KrTTELL-As understand IT, It says expressly
enough that the buying and selling OF any human 100
being is against the rule Of the Church; lie tnen
went on to give bis recollection OF Dr'
at the previous Conference, when ,
DR. CLARK complained Of being nlsrepresenteo.
The Rev. Mr.. PoYsoH confirmed MIR. KettelIs state
ments. oo.,;,,,
DIR. CLARK said that Mr.. Poyeon was " weeping
brother" at the preceding Conference, and proDapy
had no very clear recollection Of the facts: =,
The Rev. Mr.. KETTELL resumed was slavery
Gin 10 such an extent that man should be excommu'
nicated for holding slavesi Now, II 1t was sm 70
hold slaves, there was no aiternatvej .ney nus. ~.
IL off root and branch. Yet brethren who said IL was
a sin, objected to the instant abolition OF Slavery.
Now, the whole question was, Is Slavery sin or
mott" There was great deal Of pious rhetoric anu
sentimentalism spent on this theme. Slavery was
called SINFUL because evils grew out Of it. he denied
was necessarily sin. There were many evils grow
ing out of the marriage relation In the present mper
feet state of society," but marriage was not sinful per Sc
The BISHOP reminded the brother that he was not
speaking TO the question.
MANY VoIcEs-"Let him 20 on, we like 10 hear
him."
Mr.. KErTELL continued-The Sabbath also, was
made the occasion of riot and debauchery, but VINO
would dare to say the Sabbath was sinful institution
The old sdage, that the world owed every man iy-
ing, was nonsense; every man owed the world nus
labor, and II race would not work, men were ngnt
TO exact labor by force This principle was understood
and carried out at the North in cur vagrant and work
house systems. The question with us, was not
whether we would adopt such system, but whether
It's adoption was sin worthy of accommodation.
All the rhetoric expended about people owning the
bodies and souls Of slaves was nonsense The South.
erners only owned the right 10 make their slaves work,
and TO convey them from place TO another 70 make
them do co. At Athens and Rome, the bodies and
souls owned but in our day slaves were treated
with kindness, and cruelty to them was punished &C.
nxfa yrQ
The question was, whether they should let
loose 100000 of paupers upon the worldi lie
depicted the natural degradation OF the negro race,
and insisted that they were best on as al present.
The negro in the West Indies incapable OF taking
care of himself. Emancipation had blighted one-haf
Of the finest of the Antilles This was proved neon.
testaby. Toussaint POuverure dscerned the evils OF
freedom to the blacks, and established the famous
Rural Code" with the intent TO finally enslaye Al
his race. Go where you would Ia our own Nortn,
and the negroes were an idle set. Ii Slavery had
degraded the negro why didn't Freedom elevate him
He affirmed most emphetically, that under God proct-
dence, Slavery in America had been the only thing
acich had eeUated the negro race, and he Uas bold
man rho could dare deny III In morals, health, and
civilization the slaves were far above the free negroes
Many statistics were given TO show this MI: Wesley
was often quoted as having said that American
Slavery was the vilest system under the sum- Mr.
Wesley must haye been blinded by prejudice, or he
would never have made such O remark. Folks said
we were " cottonized." II was blessed thing
for ms that we were. The wealth flowing
TO Ms from the Southern cotton crop alone kept alive
our institutions and so-called elevation. The Speaker
here went contrast the products Of the S0uth and
of the North finding enormous ratio IN favor Oh the
latter and ending with the conclusion that we were
the ones who were actually deriving the most beneht
from the institution of Slavery. Didn't his brethren
love coffee and sugar, and he was sorry TO say,
tobacco? Did they ever think of abohshing
Slavery by giving up slave products ! IL was
something very curious TO see q Drotaer get
Al with a
cotton shirt on his back, aud tobacco 10 his mouth
[Great laughterl If Slavery relic OF barb lrism
twas because the negroes were barbarlans; al TINS
talk about their being equal with us, he didn't believe
a word of Twas all nonsense and sophistry. At
tempts to alter Southern institutions by such talk made
him think of the European rival villages, Great
Barre" and Little Barre" The people In the latter
place built lofty steepe, with wonderful clock In
it. looking toward the rival village, from which the
semblance of human countenance doomed forth and
made faces Great Barre whenever the clock struck
the hour ofthe day. This was what we were engaged
in oopg-makiDg faces at the South, and he dldn's
think it was very dgnifed, that it would result in
much In the end. Great merriment and confusion
The Rev. CHARLES GoRsE was opposed to this kind
Of speech makiDg, on account OF the acrmony oiten
produced He would Like to have his brothers tell him
whether Slavery was recognized by the apostles
How much had all the Slavery discussion opened the
door Of the South, go that we could go there and
preach the Gospel 10 every creature Had not the
Slavery discussion produced monomania 10 the minds
The BISHOP again begged the brethren 10 keep TO
the question and speak as kindly as possible.
The Rev. Mr. JOSH said, for the German brethren,
that they against Slavery There was no Slavery
In bis Hn country, and never should be. AS soon as
be could speak few words of English, he had told
the Missouri shareholders, America never be free
30 long as you keep slaves Don't tell me of Liberty
and Slavery in the came breath" He gave history
of the secession Of the six Missouri German preachers
in 1874 from the Missouri TO the Illinois Conference
account of Slavery and reiterated the fact that every
German preacher thoroughly against 1t. In rela
ton 10 the Erie Rule he looked at the effect Of such
change in discipline. What would be the effect of
ouch change In Missouri 7 The ak German Societies
had grown to thirty, and the change would weaken
their power for good by accommodating half the
members of those churches He appealed to the Con-
ference in long speech, not TO do anything at pres
emf to further irritate the German interest.
The Rev. Mr.. PoYsoS said that Feeling was the
nOblest distinction and ornament OF human nature and
in proportion we lost it, we ceased TO be men. He
had been much embarrassed at the last Conference,
by being obliged to speak on this vexed question, and
only did 30 because he was fresh from the border
experiences of 20 years. At that Conference, he
fessed 10 being overwhelmed by great and recent be-
reavement, and consequently ras weeping brother.
He trusted Dr. Clark would understand the explanation.
And now he would say word on the question. He
could not that Bro. Ferris substantially differed
much from the Erie resolution. Like Romulus and
Remus they both derived their nourishment from the
same wolf. A great deal had been said about the
abstract wrong Of Slavery. Pictures such as had
been drawn very apt to excite the public mind,
but we had nothing TO do with that. In the old Do
minon, he taught in childhood the conservative
doctrine that Slavery was an evil. The Baltimore,
Philadelphia and other Conferences all agreed on this
point. Bro. Crawford said last year that niue
enths Of the saveholders in the Baltimore Conference
were go from mercenary motives.
The Rev. Mr.. CRAWFORD said that he quoted that
statement from member of the Baltimore Conference.
The Rev. Mr.. PoYsoS But did you not indorss II
The Rev. Mr.. CRAWFORD stated 1t, believing 1t
to be true.
The Rev. Mr.. PoYsos-Very good. Now, have
to state that the of that statement is true
Nine. tenths Of the border saveholdng members woad
gladly free their slaves if they could. From the in