Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1860-06-22
FRIDAY MORNING, JUNE 22, 1860


question of order even al the sugse,l" of rrspec:ab
an authority the gentleman from icw forS iAlr. Cocl
Sancl lLaugtsr The Chair had entertained the grnt
man ON New York (Sr Churc:l he had the aoor f.ot
The recognition of lhr Chair d addressing the Ch
lAe Chair had not called him order
Dir; coC1fRASE-l do not ask the Chair TO decide an
The PRESIDEST-'Fh. grnilr,:lun irorh New York NH
church. isupon the Nocr.
Mr. CESSNA, Of pennsylvnnia-l would ask the gentIr
man rom Minnesota (Ar kavaach) If he distinctly with
drew his motion To lay upon the table:
Mr. kAyANAGI--I did.
Mr. CHURCH, Of New York would inquire Of II.
Iha'r II IS now In order for 10 offer amendment
lioward)
The PRESIDENT-If The gentleman from, Minnesota (Mr
haFhhag states 10 the Chair that he whdraws his notlo
TO lay upon the table, and his motion for the previous
oI, then the Chair will rule that the gentleman from New
lore (MT Chn'cho !, In order He move his propo
Mr. kArANAGII-I do withdraw those motions.
=, Ihe pREslDEST-!The gentleman from New York lMr
church, Is now In order
Mr.. CllURCH-Then move the resolution which ha
been read as amendment to the resolution Of the gentle
man from Tennessee Air llnwar'D and upon Tint cal
Tie previous question.
Mr. GlLM0R and Mr.. RANDALL. of Pennsylvania, ad
dressed the Chair
The PREsDENTThe Chair will state the question now
ana then the gentleman from Prnnsylra mia lMr Gimo-,
Will address tn the Chair wla, he has say. The gentle
oHn from Tennessee tr llownrd moves aresoution
amendment to thai resolution and calls for the previous
question The question before the Convention will b.
upon seconding the demand for the previous question
uent to the amendment.
The PtEslDEST-rIat will not he in order pending
call for the previous question.
Mr.. RANDALL, ni pennsylrania-l understand thai
there now before the Convention proposition OF the gen
tlenan from New York (r. Church) As H. is distinct
proposition desire to- say a few words uponi'.
The PRESIDEST-The Chair will suggest 10 the gentle
man from Pennsylvania iMr. HandaD that the gentleman
from New York M church, has demanded the prcvion.
question ana unless some question u order privileged
In
motion, il IL The Gty al II" Chair To inquire o the Convcn
ton whether il viii second the demand for the prcyions
QUESTION thii d"md'! c not r"nndcd, then debate
will he in order.
Cries "f "ru-sri"n" 'pue>"n" from al part. "l The
hail.
Mr. RANDALL, Of Pennsylvania AS the proposition be-
call fer q division Of the uursnu
The PRESlDEST-The Chair cannot entertain uny pro.
po,itiJn nj this time.
Mr.. AVERY OF North Caroua-I call for Il division 0.
the question: 50 that the first question shall be upon refer.
ring those credentials to the Committee, and the second
question upon the proposition to Initiate test oaths IN
Democratic Convention. [ApplausrJ
Til. PRESID ENT-The Chair would inform the gentle.
man from North Carolina Mr. Avery that the gentleman
frou Pennsylvania (ar. RsndaD had already called for
division OF the queson The In substance that OF
the gentleman Of North CaroIna.
Nj. MONTGOMERY, of Pennsylvania rise to poin,
OF order that there can be no division nny AZ tie previous
question las been demanded.
The PFESlDENT-Thc Chair bpgs leave 10 state the
gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Montgomery thai he
s:ray said that the Gull for division Of the question Is
OF orter The Chair has already determined that Is
the duty Of the Chair first to call for second to the de-
naud To- The previous question. But the Chair cannot
pronounce before gentleman has spoken, whether what
hr has tosaT il or Is not unt Of order.
Mr. -, OF Tcnnessce-l rise TO point OF order
that ihrs H. r" Committee C7ecrtias to which 10 refer
The pEn:Sl DENT-Thr Clair will Inform the gentleman
from Tennessee that that is aIueson OF order but SUBJ
stance ald that the Convention may at any time revive the
ttl. n refpr
duty Of the Chair now 10 put the question upon second
Ing the dtmand for the previous question.
Mr. RUSSELL, Of Nirsnla--I ask that this Convention
will allow make friendly candid and sincere np
peal The gentleman who made the call for the pre-
vous question, (Nr. Church, OF New iorkAto withdraw
Ills call.
The PEEsiDEST-Thc Chair has ~ authority over tha,
question.
Mr. RESELL ask the Chair appeal the gentleman
10 allow 'ar play in iht Convention.
Mr.. STUART, Of Michisan-I insist that the Chair pre-
serve orCcr.
RusseD not In order.
Mr.KussELL-If we are to be constrained silence,
beg gentlemen conslde. the silence Of Virginia
what onlnous. Applause and Kisses.
The question stated 10 be upon sec0ndnS the demand
for the PREVIOUS question. Being taken rira r0cc,
The PRESIDENT stated tina, the noes appeared to have
Mr. RICHARDSON Of Ilnujs doubted the announcement,
and asked that the vote be taken hy States which was or.
derGd.
r BRODnEAD of pennsyvania, stated ,ha, the gentle.
his call for the provisions question.
Mr.. MONTGOMERY Of Pennsylyana.-The vote having
been ordered be taken by states IL Is not NOW In order
sIhdraw tnc call for the nrerions question
The ePESfDESr-The Chair will suggest 20 the gentle.
from New York. Mr Church) that The previous ques
lion having demanded the Chair put the question 10
the Convention whether they seconded that demand and
In the judgment CT the Chair, it wms negayed Thcrcupon,
the gentleman from Illinois, r Rchardson) called for the
verhcation Of that vote by States After the vote thus
made and taken the Chair does not understand that Is
competent Withdraw the call for the previous question
Mr. SALISBURY Of Delaware, moved that the Conyen.
ton take recess until o'clock, this afternoon.
Mr. SAMCELS, or loTn, appealed to the gentleman from
Delaware (Mr. saubury) to withdraw his motion for one
moment IT. after the suggestion he desired 10 make, the
gentlemen desired the motion for recess he would renew
Mr. SALISBURY said he would Withdraw upon that con-
dton.
Mr. MONTGOMERY, Of PENN, objected 10 any sugges-
tions instructions.
Mr. RYNDERS ofNew York rose to point OF order that
the motion take having been withdrawn the de-
nand for the previous question was then operative anu no
debate was in order.
The PRESIDENT sustained the point Of order
Mr. sAMCElS, OF lowa-Thcn will reneT the motion for
4 recess though shall vote against it.
Mr. LUDLOW, Of New York, called for a y"e hy States
lpnr thi. motion, which ordered.
The SECRETARY proceeded 10 call ;hc roll Of States on
the motion 10 lake recess.
After ir vote Of Munrsot had been announced,
Mr. BECKER Of Minnesota, said that there WAS person
present claiming or Of the Minnesota delegates
Yho absent lie therefore rasr point or order upon
that vote.
Mr. GORNAN, Of Minnesota, said thai the State OF Min
entire Congressional district the S:ac nay
IN: never been divided into separate Congressional dis
trics though clccting two members OF CoD2rcss as ms
colleague had raised point OF order upon the gentleman
being allowed who was Instructed to do ~ by the
absent delegate he himself would raise another point OF
rcr which that he, chairman, should be allowed
TO the vote OF the state A. an entirety and Tor TINS
rasop The State Convention Of Minnesota had passed
resolution declaring that II any delegate from that state
should be absent In the National Convention then the ma
ory Of the delegation should east the erre vote OF he
.t,.,fz t.h sad n Tho
Chnrcston but had not deemed II proper 10 make The
point upon his colleague r Becker but va! free 10 per
mil him and his associates 10 vote rs they desired u'
since he now comes forward and claims that part n The
Is here, he (Mr Gorman) now Claimed thht
he he allowed to the nf the state as an entirety
HIr BECKER understood that the Chairman ms dele.
gallon (Mr Germany had yielded TIE question he (Mr b.
had raised Mr. B then went into history OF the Mime
son State Convention di-arrecnS with the Chairman OF "
10 the fact that it passed solution au'norns ane
delegate No such resolution passed The resolution ni-
,nrxed the majority cast the vote Of the absent dele
gate resolution was introduced nItfuS,ihs ,nn "ee @
Was voted down by to Now WAS decided at me
Charleston Convention that the delegation could not ne
conpcllcd TO vote rs unit And were the minority now
be .ied BY the intentional absence Of one delegate
He appealed tbs Convention TO sustain TIE rght oil lhe
minority anil sustain the action OF the State convention,
who nirnded give ench delegate his proper voice
Mr. G0RMAS called upon Gov. Sbley IN state whether
he or his colleague right in regard io The RESOLUTION
passed by the State Ccnyehlioa:
vi
but he knew as well rs anybody Waat 'ooA
place. and That his colleague (Mr. Germany was rght-the
words OF instruction being almost the Identical
used by him. and the resolutions OF Instruction we're voIc
down In consequence OF compromise, IN Wich ~ was
stated that the elrgncs expected IN To'e lot Judge
Douglas rs long the interest of the Democratic purity n
maned such course He appealed to his colleague (r.
ecker) II one Of them would have been Eers u ths assu-
rance had not been fully given st ruch anu all wouh use
their utmost rncron effect Mr. Douglas Nomination.
(Applausc.
Mr BECKER replied that THAI was not pnnt raised he
fare this Convention nor did he agree with Ills colleague ny
the fact. n there was such decided ""Shs 'es"s'
Why should they have compromised
Mr. SIRLEY-Iecausc the resolution as dram was
deemed to hr reflection in advance upon ie inen "ho
lad been sent here represent the Democracy OF TIC
Safe.
Mir CLARK Of Missouri raised ;he point OF order, that
II there was anv alteration in the delegation the question
mis-: be referred to the Committee on Credentials
Mr. SIGLTY said the question presented was new one
aisins under their instructions Ia OF vacancy anu W.
&c be decided IN accordance with the decision Of Inc CaI
ri Charleston.
The SrEA EE suggest e a; The documentary naiter was
p,t before him urG which determine The qntsop anu
that the question be- suspended for the present.
Mr. GORNIAS HIuuuuceG that his colleague lIan con-
s,nrl for the present suspend the question, bnL gave
u.r tia, NJ the next II would be pressed Upon Inc
Convention. :.
The calling Of the States then concluded oa the
motion 10 adjourn till four o'clock and resulted as looWs
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