New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-12-07

t,dies and their real significance. They were simply
paym,uts Cor mail service, and any Steamship Cch.
rany could comLeIc for them. IL wds precl.eiy the |
sane ms the United States paving for To rransnorta-
ton of the mails by land by the udson River Rail-
road.
Mr.. A. A. Low followed in some remarks. He
stated that, beside from the Last Indies and
Gina, we were dependent upon England Tor our
mail accommodation with the west coast OF South
America, and England had 80 arranged the days
OF the arrival of her steamers at Panama, That
passengers aud letters 10 America had 10 lie az
Panama two weeks. The effect 81 TINS was 70
change the course of orders from America 10 Engi ma
As illustrating the fact that commerce followed Tue
lines OF the mail routes be said that by the statement
of the Rev. Mr.. Fletcher, in his lecture on brazi'
appeared that though we were FeeS,ng IS coae
and sugar, and they were importing thirteen mi mi
lions of domestic cottons, yet only q haii mi
lion OF this came from America, the fetnaihuer
being imported from England whenever there
had trpled the trade of Great Britain there while me
trade of America had not increased In regard 10 the
objection that had been raised that Great Britain had
a superiority over America by reason OF her iron
steamers MI Low stated that Mr.. Lindsay; whose re-
cent visit to this country well known, had exam
ined into the manufacture of iron steamers III tn,S
country and he had been surprised to see how ht!le
difference there was in favor Of the Englsh snip
builder Our iron had "A superiority OF hfteen per
cent over English iron end il was noticeable fact
that while English iron steamers, after Striking III COZ
had
fact many attributed TO the weakness of Engsh ir3n
American iron vessels after striking rocks even, ad
aoaed ii was due TO American manufacturers TO state
these facts because orders We're coming 70 tnis country
continually and if we advertised TO the world that The
British bad superiority in this respect those orders
would cease. BY the steamers which had already
| been built million and n half of dollars mad been
saved to this country, in the transportation OF lfelgn.
and passengers. Ii was the Subsidies originally
granted by Congress which had caused those steamers
70 be constructed England by her subsidies, derived
incaculable benefit and while she maintained lnenni
America discouraged them. But If we were 10 sland
upon an equality with England ~ maritime nation,
we must initiate her. He conendcd that there was no
connection between this idea Of subsidies and that OF
free-trade He did not AJAX Government subsidies any
| longer than England continued them. But while he
commended that as a maritime nation we were equal IN
every respect to England we could not contend against
her owners of steam vessels backed by the BRUSH EN-
chequer and therefore long she continued 10 SUBJ
sidIe steamers if we would maintain an equality we
must initiate her. -,
Mr.. CHApLrs II. Marshall said that while he was
not opposed TO the opening Of postal routes uuer De
over TO Government the commerce OF the country IL
had been thoroughly proved that no private enterprise
whatever ri ce successfully with one Which If
subsidized by Government. Ii the memorial confined
isef simply TO recommending the opening OF necessary
postal routes or the subsdiZng OF line OF steamers
10 Im in opposition to the Cunad line he would be in
favor of III but he could not countenanee the general
| principle of Government subsidies.
Mr. Lowe said that there but one recommended
ton in the memorial the rest was merely statement
Of facts.
| The Hon. F. A. CoSKLiNG wished to cOrroborate the
statement Of Capt Marshall relative to the tendency
Of public opinion in England upen the subsidizve pol.
lev. From hiT association with commercial men OF
that country within the last few years, nc knew that
| the subsidy of the CunaTd line OF steamers by the
British Government had created widespread jealousy
and opposition the part Of that class, and the
tendency Of public opinion very generally toward
| its abandonment. He regarded the comparison made
by Gen. Netmore, between the subidzing OF hnee OF
steamers 10y Government and It's mail service contracts
on land, as unjust and the argument based upon 1t as
uusnbsaniial and niim. Take for example the con-
tract with the Collins line of steamers. That contract
at the rate of S3 1000 tnp for - tr1ps per an
num- making the enormous sum OF SSjS OOJ per annum
Would anybody call that economy, or say that II was
only Just compensation for services rendered. Ger
tnly not. With regard 10 the contracts OF carrying
the mails given by contract 10 the Hudson River or
any other railroad the services were performed for
iust and reasonable compensation, and cheaper than
anybody else would agree to perform them
Capt. EZRA NYE, To correct the Impression oil MI
Conkng said that the original contract of the Collins
line with the Government was TO build hVe ships OF
1000 tups each AT $685. 900. They built four ships of
| 5000 TINS each, which the Government accepted In
lien Of the five ships which they agreed TO build They
were intended for ships Of war. When it was decided
that they were 10 make tweny X trips year, instead
of tie number irs intended the same rate OF compen
| sation per trip was continued. Eventually it was
found that The compensation was not enough, as the
ships were costly and the rate of speed very great,
thew having shortened the Time between TINS lOIl ana
| Iiverpool four DAYS. He thought that II would be
better policy for us ia establishing lines of steamers,
TO occupy new ground, than to let great CONNER
cal iiya England take possession Of 1t, and then az
| tempt to conf etc with her. 80
Gen. WErNoRE raid that the question had nothing
10 do with carving out the details of this subsidzng
principle Ibat rested with Congress. The Chamber
was merely called upon 70 Jay that in IL Judgment
there ought TO be q mail line established between this
country and Asia.
| Mr. W. T. CoLEMAS, il a few remarks, favored the
| object Of the memorial
| Mr. ROYAL PHELPS made n few remarks in c0nclu
sion when a motion Of Mr.. LOVE- 10 adopt the memo
| rial was carried unanimously.
| a communication WAS received from Mr.. George W.
Billings in reference 10 the mail facilities between this
city and PhGdelphia. Referred TO the Committee on
| Post Offices.
| communication from Or. Alex. Gum, on the sub
| jtct OF quarantine, was referred 10 the Quarantine
| Committee
After The nomination Of persons for membership the
| Chamber sdi OuInod.
| EXPLOSION IN THE N1YT-TfPD