New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-12-12

nation grows ont Of principles end systems dyaced Dy
The minant party in TIE free states OF eo: Uilph
vsrriye Of The Constitutional eompac, between the
States, and directly at with their safety and mate
nal interests. IL has thps become diiect lssue De-
tween the States and can only be adjusted by teel
We cannot doanytIng in controversy like thso bind
the Staes and il is rutless to try It, The Senaorsale
the representatives of the States and any action Is had
by Congress this beet it should have originated
with them, and not with us. ! can but regard this
Committee as a tub thrown to the whale to amuse
only til the 4h Of March next, and then arrest the
present noble and manly movements Of the Southern
States and to provide BY that day for their security
and safey ont of the Union With these views take
my place the Committee for the purpose Of prevent
ing II being made means Of deception by which the
public mind is to be mised and misguided, yet intend
ing honestly and periodically to entertain any fair
proposition for adjustment of pending evils which the
Republican members may submit.
The Home voted and refused 10 eSsnse Mr.. Ilaw-
kins-95 against 10l.
SIr. HAWKINS Dem, Fla lest silence would be
construed into consent TO serve on the Committee,
wished TO say, with all Difference and good feeling
for those who voted against his request, he '0lH not
serre.
Mr.. BoYCE Dem, s. c. asked to be excused from
service on the Committee.
Mr.. SMITH Dem, VEL objected.
Mr., BURNETT Dem, Ky.l thought the refusal to
gentlemen was extraordinary, aftsr they have
made up their minds mature reflection, and in Jue-
tce to their respective States, that they cannot serve
He was satisfied the Committee did not express the
sentiments Of the various sections The representatives
of South Carolina will remain here only few days
longer. Why, then, refuse to excuse Mr. Bsyce Is
force the mode and manner Of instituting measures
with view to restore peace and good feeling IN the
country
Mr. SMITH va.,) replied he would not use force.
lie was one ef those who refused to excuse Mr.. Haw-
kins and after the lecture of Mr. Burnett he felt h9
duty to yindcae bis vote. Present affairs are big
with the fate Of the Republic and discussion the
question was not likely TO do any good. He how
ever, expressed his surprise and modification that the
Republican side of the House had refused to partici-
pate in the discussion.
Mr.. CURTIS Rep Iowa. wished to say his party
have not refused to discuss. He woud do 80 at the
proper time. He wanted the Committee, OF which he
was member to have fair hearing.
Mr.. SMITH, resuming, said he expected the oppor-
tunty would have been presented OF exhibiting tho
different views of members means of influencing
and acting on the Committee. He was anxious TO see
every State participate in the deliberations OF the
Committee, and hence be could not excuse Mr.. Haw-
kins because if tins done Florida would be UNI
represented.
Mr.. BURNETT, in explanation, said this Govern
ment is not to be saved by euoges On the Union,
but by speedy action.
Mr.. SMITH resumed-Nobody expected to see force
used to compel Mr. Hawkins to serve, or desired to
visit him with punishment other than that OF mere
opinon If the gentleman is resolved not TO serve on
the Committee Bet him refuse but not make a request
to be excused with private determination not to per-
form his duty.
The House refused to excuse Mr.. BOyee by a tie
vote.
Mr.. SMITH Dem, VA, having been informed that
Mr. Hawkins supposed he had made insinuations
to bis prejudice, discaimed any such irtention and
spoke of the upnghtness and integrity OF the gentle
man from Florida.
Mr. HAWKINS was understood to be satisfied with
the explanation.
Mr.. MORRILL, Rep. VT as1edto be excused from
serving on the Committee, because OF other duties,
which fully employed his time.
N. \ Thought
Il at gentleman who voted against excusing Mr..
Hawkins and Mr. Eoyce, was the last one who should
himself request to be excuged from serving on the
Committee. No serious or important matter
could be proposed the House than that intrused to
the Committee. He expressed his surprise that a
gentleman belonging to the Republican party, which
Lad aggravated the present affairs should make such
request.
Mr.. MORRIS Dem. ILL., had heretofore voted
against excusng gentlemen but inasmuch no action
has been taken in relation to those who refuse to serve
he saw nothing but contempt to the House in forcing
them to remain the Committee.
Mr.. STANTON Rep, Ohio said he had voted to
excuse Mr.. Hawkins and Mr.. Boyce as an act OF
courtesy. The gentleman from Vermont Nlr. MORRILL,
has two colleagues Of whom he desires substituted
for himself, and not because he desired to avoid
sponsibility. He Mr.. Stanton trusted gentlemen
would give those on the Republican side the privilege
Of determining when is the proper time for discussion
Premature debate can do no good and especially as 10
irrelevant matters. His own course would be TO await
tie report of the Committee.
Mr.. SMITH remarked that only one side of the
House had been heard from. The silence Of the Re-
publicans IL indicative OF stern determination to
avail themselves of the power they have obtained.
Mr.. STANTON resumed. Disunion now could do
no practical good, but might result in the
usual elimination and recrimnation. Therefore, he
did not desire to participate in debate.
Mr.. SMITH VA, replied Ii the Republicans had
met the movement from the Democratic side in spirit
of kindness it would have had pleasant and
agreeable effect all sides, the country all agree
Mr. STANTON confessed he had very little hope OF
a successful result from the Committee He did not
what, in the existing state OF things, Is to be
remedied by legislation The Republicans haveelected
the President thing which is done every four years
He did not see in that anything requiring legislation
If amendments to the Constitution to be pro-
posed he would be glad to them. That the only
efectual mode of doing anything.
Mr.. HOUSTON Dem, Ala) appealed to Mr.. MOI
Iill to withdraw his request to be excused.
Mr.. CORWIN Dem, Ohio offered a resolution,
which was adopted authorizing the Select Committee
to employ clerk at 5! per day, and that theCom-
mittee have leave to sit during the session of the
House. until they shall report or be otherwise dis
charged
Mr.. SHERMAN rep, Ohio from the Committee
of Ways and Means, reported the Diplomatic and
Consular Appropriation bill, and bill making appro-
prations for the support Of the Indian Department.
Mr.. SIBERIAN introduced a resolution, which was
adopted instructing the Committee on Indian Affairs
TO inquire and report whether any Superintendent OF
Indian Affairs or Indian Agents can he dispensed with
without public detriment.
Mr.. SHERMAN presented the petition of Thaddeus
Hyatt, asking relief for the people of Kansas.
Mr.. BARRETT said the suffering not 80 great
as Mr. Hyatt represented for he had in the news
parers that the people of one part Of the Territory
had given ball al two dollars head. Iaughtt u
Mr.. GROW rep, Pa did not know anything
about that but the President in bis Message had rec
ommended relief.
Mr. GARNET Dem, Va.) objected to the petition,
but the House referred it to the Committee on Terri
tories.
Mr. MORRIS of Illinois made an Intellectual attempt
to introduce his Unionoying declaration resolution.
Ii AI..rlil Lnlal and