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National Convention that while he and endor
ses the report of the majority of the Committee upon
Credentalsso far AS relates to the contested seat of
Massachusetts, the contested seat in the State of Missouri
the contested seats in the State of Delaware also in
regard to the contested delegations in the States Of Arkan
s Georgia and louisiana and agreeing with them also
in thei' recommendation to admit the delegations now
present and claiming seats from the States of Texas and
Mississippi he differs from and protests against their ac
ton with regard to the State of Alabama
Upon careful examination of all the concerning
this State the undergn believes reports that
the delegation of which l.. P. Walker is Chairman is
the regularly elected representative of the State Ala
anna and such is clearly entitled seats the Demo
cratic National Convention.
Coming here as they do, not alone by nature the
under which they held their Charles
ton but having been reelected and accredited by State
Convention called together in accordance with the
OF the Democratic party of the State of Alabama the uu
dersgn4d held 1t to be the imperative duty of this Ma
tona Convention to recognize their claims as the only
authorized delegates from the State of Alabama.
The undersigned therefore offers the following:
ReSOtred, That much of the majority report of the
Committee on Credentials relates to Massachusetts,
Missouri, Delaware Arkansas Georgia and Louisiana
Mississippi and Texas, be adopted.
ReSoIred, That the delegation of which L. p Walker
is Chairman, be and they hereby declared the only
regularly authorized representatives the State of Ala
6ama, and as such entitled seats the National
Democratic Convention.
All OF which is respectfully submitted
W. s. Cuttings.
Baltimore, June 21st, 1860.
Mr. GITTINGs-I move, sir, that reports be pruled
ana that we take recess ant O'Clock.
DELEdATR-Oh, no, we can't print them by that
time.
Mr.. GITrINGs-I withdraw it. sir
Mr. STEVENS, of OregOn-I desire simply to state that
me delegate from New Hampshire the committee also
agrees with the of the minority of the committee
which have the honor to present in the cases of
chusetts and Missouri " ~
Mr.. PHILIPS, of Pennsyvana-WiII the gentleman
from Missouri allow me to make suggestion9
Mr.. kRUM, of Missouri yielded the floor only IN o
low the minority reports to be made ' " "
Mr.. PHILIPS.-I appeal to the gentleman to alIou, ra
to make suggestion, hch have no doubt will he
agreeable to this Convention do not intend to make a
speech
Mr.. KRUM.-I do not intend to occupy the floor long
Mr. WHITNEY, of Massachusetts, rise to question
of privilege pertinent to the matter now under discus
sion, which would like TO state
The PREsIDENT.-The gentleman from Missouri (Mr.
kruml has the door and it will not be competent in
terrupt him, even with question of privilege.
Mr.. KRUM-Mr. President and gentlemen of the Con
Nenton, by the majority report and the two minority
reports you are now possessed of the questions which
arise in respect to them And sir it is not nv purpose
now to enter upon debate in respect any Of these
questions my purpose is merely to make a sug-
gestion in order that may understand each
other in our future action in regard those questions
vnced that extended debate in regard to nv one e
questions Will result in little if any good to the harmon
of this Convention and hence it is as the nronositions
are plainly stated and as they addressed to your
Judgment, and in respect to which your convictions must
lead you sooner or later that desire state now that
within reasonable time shall move the previous uue
ton in order that may to direct action TGrea
applause, and cries of Now now."l Mr. President
am appealed to on every hand to move it now desire
to state that under such obligations to brother
committee man. with whom | have throughout acted
w" Peiie'' harhohy ana good faith, not TO do it,
Mr. STEVENS, of Oregon lin his seat)-I have no de
sire to occupy time now
(Mr. Krum, who had been speal,p,, from, q sottoa
stepped down into the aisle
Mr. PnILIPs-I suggest Mr.. President that as the re-
ports of the majority agree and as the members of th
committee are unanimous in recommending the admis-
sion of the delegates from Mississippi Texas and Delaware
will ask unanimous consent of the Convention to LET t
vote be taken upon them now. (No' 'no.")
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The PREsIDENT-The Chair begs leave to inouire
whether the gentleman from Missouri made motion or
yielded the floor. ' "
DELEGA1E-He yielded the floor temporarily to Mr.
tevens, of Oregon.
The PREsIDENT-The Chair did not so understand
me Chair wishes to enquire whether he yielded entirely
or temporarily for some explanation.
MIR. KRUM-I have yielded to the gentleman from Ore
gon.
The M PREsIDEXT-lIad you finished your remarks
Mr.. KRUM-NO, sir; yielded TEMPORARILY
The PREsIDENT-Then the gentleman from Missouri
has the floor ~ '
Mr.. PHILps-I make the point of order that he has no
right to make terms He must yield absolutely or not at
The PREsDENT-The gentleman from Missouri sat
down SO abruptly with some concluding words that the
Chair did not hear, that the Chair supnosed he ad fin
ished his remarks and taken his seat and was from
that msapprehenson, arising from the pepteman's al
lowing his voice to fall, that Chair recornzed the
gentleman from Pennsylvania tNfr. Phiips If the gen
eman from Missouri chooses to retain the floor he has
the right to resume it, but the Chair will not rule that he
has right to make bargain with auvhOdv
Mr.. SCHELL of New York rose TO mint of order
the gentleman from Missouri should repeat his conc
ding remarks, so that the President could hear ther
Mr. PHGLIPs-Iie says he yielded the floor
Mr.. SCHELL-He said he was appealed to by various
gentlemen to move the previous question now but was
under obligations to member of the cnmma. NOT IN do
1t, and therefore took his seat
Mr.. KRUM said he would repeat his closing words 1t
was his purpose, when he took his seat allow the gen
teman from oregon an opportunity to say something in
respect to the minority report and he so undertook TO
press himself to the Chair If gentleman did not de
further duty to the Convention.
MIR. ScHELL called upon the President to decide his
question of order.
Mr.. ATKINS of Tennessee said the gentleman from
Missouri left his position and had already stated that he
& &Hetae1 the ne loor temporarily to the gentleman from
statement, the gentleman had yielded the oor emnora
rily, he had yielded it permanently
The PRESIDENT said the question of order depended
upon question of fact
Mr.. KRUM said he did not take his seat but stepped
down because gentleman desired to saw sometbing in
his ear "a laughl He did understand that he had
lost the floor ~
Mr.. WATERE JRY of New York, said. upon the pcntle
mans own showing he had yielded he floor to engage in
private conversation That was to all nents and pur
poses yielding of the floor for the Convention was not
to wait while he attended to private matters
The PREsIDENTThe Chair prepared to receive as de
ciSon of the question of fact the declaration upon honor
shed what he had to say and had intention to con
tinue his remarks when he left his position in order to
enable the gentleman from Oregon speak, the Chair will
be bound to decide that he had lost the floor.
Mr.. KRUM-l trust whenever | speak it will be upon
honor, and speak upon honor when repeat what
said before, that supposed had the right TO WELD fem
porarily TO the gentleman from Oregon to make his eX
panaton IT was my design to resume my position and
simply because stepped from this elevation did not
suppose had lost the fOor may be in error but did
not suppose that simply because bowed my head to re-
ceive a communication from brother delegate | had
thereby lost the oor 1t is for the Convention decide
do not profess to be ckler upon points of order or
anything else and especially when acting with Democrat
&c brethren Allow me to say, further, that supposed
whatever time the gentleman from Oregon should speak
would under the rules of the Convention, be taken from
my time; but am not familiar with rules never hay-
ing read them' and hope never shall read them.
Mr. SIBLY, of Minnesota desire to ask question of
the Char 1T IS not the universal custom in all debera
1--WE Dodles LOT gentleman to get up and ask permission
OF another gentleman speaking to make suggestion
recommendation.
The PREsIDENT-The inquiry OF the gentleman from
Minnesota is very pertinent and the Charregres say
that is common in deberatve assemblies or at least
in assembly, which is consttutionay understood to
be deliberative assembly, daughter for gentlemen to
rise and ntepose remarks with without the permission
OF the gentleman having the floor and to do that without
having been recognized by the Chair inter
position of any gentleman with without the assent of
the gentleman on the floor, is, in the Judgment of the
Chair an act of disorder until the Chair has recognized
the gentleman who thus makes the request and
poses whilst another gentleman is speaking and until
the Char has ascertaned upon recognizing him. that he
proceeds with the assent of the gentleman having the
floor And if in this the Chair observed that the
gentleman from Oregon (Ar. Stevens had risen and he
had had the right recognize him the Chair MIGHT
have recognized him. but the Chair did not perceive the
gentleman from Oregon rise He did understand the gen
tleman from Missouri (Mr Krum) as yielding the floor
although he did not distinctly understand the words
Now, the gentleman from Missouri says, in sitting
down that he yielded the floor temporarily to the gen
teman from Oregon the Chair rules that this is yield
ing of the floor In this the Chair recognized the
gentleman from Pennsylvania, (hr. Philips;) therefore
the Chair is of opinion that he is entitled to the floor
Mr. PHILLIPS, of Pennsylvana-I do not rise for the
purpose of making speech, because my desire to
hear the delegate from Oregon rise simply for the
purpose OF making suggestion to the Convention and
did not suppose any gentleman of fairness could object
to it.
Mr.. STUART, of Michigan-I call the gentleman to
order
Mr. PHILIPs-I speaking to points before the Con-
vention, mean to speak very little
The PREsIDENT-The Chair understands that there are
now before the Convention debatabe questions being
consecutive resolutions reported with the
moved upon by the members of the Convention
Mr.. STUART-But the gentleman has precluded himself
from speaking by saying to the Convention that he does
propose to speak upon the matter before it, he
purposes to impugn the judgment of other members
Mr.. PHILIPs-The gentleman from Michigan is mis-
taken. said that did not purpose to speak but very
little to the propositions before the Convention When
it for the purpose of making suggestion that
did not believe any far-minded gentleman could object
to. (Cries of ''order orderly
Mr.. PUGH, of Ohio-I call the gentleman to order
say that it is out of order for him make reflections upon
the members of this Convention.
Mr. PHTLns-I disclaim any such intention and the
Chair does not understand it.
The PREsIDENT-The Chair does not understand the
gentleman from Pennsylvania rejecting upon any in
dividual member of the Convention.
Mr.. PHILIPs1 desire to call the attention Of the Con
venton to or two subjects. desire call the aten
ton of the Convention to the fact that the Committee on
Credentials have reported with entire unanimity in tbe
of the delegation from Mississippi
Mr. SEWARD, of Georgia. rise to point of order and
it this: That the gentleman proposes TO take this
out of the order in which the different cases had
been presented before the Convention.
Mr. PHILIPS-I do not ask any such thing
The PREsIDENT-Theg gentleman from Pennsylvania has
made any such motion. The Chair does find that