New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-12-01

his argument. Gil, oad,es.sd the
audience He recounted the wrongs the South had SUI
fered from the North and said ne was surprised ta
his friend Gen. c.. had used the crartn afgnhen'o VI
fear 5..,a at
denv n depy IL No man can charge Inc Win ap,
realir o 10 so base motive On the contrary, sia
that iii yirginans with the rest were ready 10 die
for their native State when you show that tle 'i0
has arrived to make the sacrifice appear 10 tne pei
pie" Cries from all parts of the house, That 30
You did not appeal to our fears, &c. we VIII tris,
YOU" ave trust YOU" 1--WE want yon back IN oid
Virginia.
Gov. Smith said-"I would not misrepresent my
friend; Misunderstood him."
Cen Darlington then said appealing to the Gov
ernor" You the Representative in Congress f0u
are known throughout Virginia and the country we
want your opinion. Is il the duty Of Virginia NOR,
nor, to join South Carolina and wage war against the
Federal Government
The Governor replied but it was not considered sat
isfactory. The crowd called for direct answer
Here Mr. B. H. Shackeford rose in the crowd, and
said Gov Smith, you are our representative In Con-
prers will you the question, Are y0n of war
or reace, mar, nor Shall we join South Carolina
NOR, ard wage war with the Federal Government
Gov Smith" will 20 with Virginia.
Mr. Shackelford- That does not answer my qnes-
ton. We will all 90 with Virginia. What shall VIZ
ginia do now Shall she secede and JOIN South Caro-
lima nor ~
rnicn and do not think we should secede and dis
solve the Union now; but want guarantees.
Mr. Sbackelford-" Then we agree" Here there
was great applause. .. a.
Gov Smith proceeded, and said that his TREND Gen;
c. was wrong to preach TO the South. lie shoulu
preach 20 the North. The North should respect our
rights The North had been the aggressor.
When Gov Smith concluded Gen. c. rose TO reply.
Here portion of the audience attempted TO drown tne
voice of the speaker, when Mr. John Qnncey MATT
stepuinp forward, observation-disclosures, am known
=, ~ and desire a WORD. "A KeuJlc-
man from Washington City-a Nlrginian born-a man
who shoudered his musket maintain the honor OF his
native State in the tented field present to address US
on grave and important question. de bespoke iof
Linn an attentive and respectful hearing. He knew
him. He desired to hear him. When the time for ac-
ton arrived, he, for one, was willing 10 march uldeF
his command from Maine TO Georgia Inc hOn0r Oh
the State would be safe bis hands, more gallant
and noble-hearted gentleman did not live south OF
Mason and Dixons line than Edward Y. harrington
Gen. c., shaking his friend cordially by the hand
whom he had not until then, and thanking him
for bis Kindness said, 8" am a man OF honor; and
wien / stand before Virginia audience, address
men of honor You will hear me, for you desire to do
your DUTY and to see that do mine. My friend, Gov
Smith GAYS do wrong when Ipreaeh peace and Union
in the South This depends upon the spirit IN wnicn
come do not come to dictate or TO preach. come
10 consult l come to my old mother in the hour
of her danger, 10 ask what / can do. LIS 1t our
duty to fight If it liz, will fight with youor Is II
onr duty to maintain peace and Union! ask my old
savs gyeserre the peace. Now he says say IN my
card TO the public the time for secession and dlsunion
has not arrived. He says ne loves Virginia. SO do
no man loves her better If / could express any
other sentiment the spirit of my honored father would
rise from his grave and rebuke his unworthy and dis
oyal son. But the question is-how can serve her
best / say, IN the Union. He says the South has
borne with patience the insults OF the North con-
Cede it. He hates Abolitionism. So do l. No man
hates fanatical agtators and dsturbes Of the public
peace more than l."
! When Gen. C.. resumed his seat, Mr. B. II. Shacke-
ford being loudly called for took the stand and sup
ported the views Of Gen. c. in speech OF great power
and eloquence. He showed that Virginia had every
thing TO lose and nothing gain by dissolution Of the
Union that she could protect her rights in the Union
that she should stand between fanatlcsm, North and
South, and command the peace de was ready TO de
for his native State when her rights invaded She
had been always right She bore her wrongs as be-
came the mother of statesmen, heroes christians pa
trots and philanthropsts. God grant she might be al
ways right His heart told him she would. She was
not now prepared raise her great against the Fed
eral Government; not because she afraid to do 1t,
hut becanse the twas, 49, no sufficient cause for it.
And abe would only do il when her rights, or the
rights of her sister States invaded by the Federal
Government Let those who were 20 carried away by
their feelings az prefer the fanacism Of South Caro-
lima 10 the interest of their native State leave her and
| go further South. Gov Smith has expressed himself
in favor Of peace and Union That was the opin-
! ION of Douglas, Bell and Breckinridge. When these
great leaders all sound upon this great question,
why did he hear dsunion sentiments applauded by q
portion of the audience Hear me, my cOuntrymen |!
| Beware how you break mp the greatest government
| upon which the shone.
| When Mr.. Shackelford took his seat, the Hon. w.
W. Payne being called for, took the stand. He said
Gen. C.'s whole speech was euiogisic OF the North
| and denunciaory of the South.
| Gen C. said must be permitted 10 correct you. In
my resolutions and my whole speech land the south.
and denOunce that portion Of the North which has been
aggressive upon the South. did eulOgize, and still
/ tho knrfh Caleb ftuahinp
and ohers who true 10 the South, and at this very
\ time are fighting battles for US. What man Of
! honor can object TO that sentiment
| MIR. Payne-You certainly denounced South Car
| dina.
| Cen C.-Sir, Won misunderstood me- On the con-
trary said should word of denunciaiion nor
l abuse toward South Carolina; and said If gentle
man from South Carolina should say to me that be
was prepared destroy the Union, and pull down the
pillars Of the Constitution and involve rs Al an one
common ruin, far from abusing and qnarrehhg WIN
| him. would ask him 70 go church win me, ana ne
onld feel the sin and folly of his conduct az the man
of God impaired his lessons of peace and good VIII TO
| man by divine precept and example Applause
| Mr. Payne then proceeded to say that Gen I. had
| said when the Constitution has been violated, then
4 was the time to secede Now his resolutions admit
that certain Northern States have violated the Constr
| tuition therefore now ia the time to secede.
| Gen C.-You misunderstood me again, Sir! L said
that when certain States violated the Constltution,
then was the very time to remain In the Union, and
| use the power Of the Federal Government TO make
| these disobedient States behave themselves.
| Mr.. Payne-Then, Sir misunderstood you.
| Mr.. PAYNE then proceeded. understood Gen. c. to
saw that il was the duty of Virginia to await for an
4 overt act before sho undertook 10 secede.
Don. G., in explanation, said-I said distinctly, l
agreed with Mr.. Stephens of Georgia that we should
wait not for overt act but unconstitutional act
by the President and explained the difference be-
| tween the two terms.
Mr.. PAYNE proceeded-Gen C. is, believe, from
| what have heard of him, a gentleman Let US, one
and all be true TO Southern interests; demand and be
ready 10 defend our interests love the Union when