The North-Carolinian. [volume] (Fayetteville [N.C.]) 1839-1861, 1860-07-28
NORIll CAKULII\IAN.
FAYETTEVILLE. NC.
THE DISCUSSION AT CARTHAGE

THE DISCUSSION AT CARTHAGE
On Friday last goodly number of the citizens OF
Moore county assembled at Carthage in the Baptist
church, which kindly rendered to the candi-
dates for the purpose of hearing Messrs Pool and
Ellis, upon the political topics of the day.
The discussion begun at 10io clock, a. m. by
Mr. Pool in speech of more than hour. Mr.
Pool is gentleman of ability and made excel
lent speech considering the cause he advocates.
Mr. Pool started with coolness, by say
ing that the past legislature demonstrated the fact
that neg 70 property ought to be t,xed higher, and
should no longer have the poor white mans head as
ohel to it that it was the most valuable property
in the State, property; that he vas for placing
c. upon footing with tie other sates Of the South
respecting this property. He accused the democrat
ic party in their PLATFORM Of vorng the taxation Of
all property equally except negroes; that he wished
to include the negro. That he could not get his
competitor to hold to his platform read it
that AIs. Ellis had stole his platform from him. and
he not at all pleased with the bargain He took
! up Mr.. Ellis Raleigh speech and tried to- the
rat part upon the Gov He said that the restriction
upon the taxing Of slaves did not exist till 35 under
the amended Constitution. In reference to the
taxation Of luxures and the losses incident, that
was all hunbug-there losses to be
t;Ined because Of the license tax.
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speech in Raleigh that democrats differed but
ii, ded, &c, he said they differed twice and divided
twice, and pointed tolhe exhibition of patriotism in
the Baltimore Convention Of tn Opposition where
John Bell was nominated; here Was no disunion
5herr-no pit there.
He said that his competitor had charged him with
voting against the proposition to change the Consti
tuition, by Mr. Blcsoe The reason he voted against
1t was, that it was not mooted before the people
and VINO ever voted for the repe i traitor and
more for he had sworn to support that Constitution
lie said he could not support Breckinridge a man
who the flg end Of corrupt administration
The Gov. ridicued his party as snl~ll If it was
small 1t scared the democrats bad enough and if he
We're not elected he would have the satisfaction of
worrying his competitor good deal
NJ. Ellis said tnat his competitor tried to convey
the impression chat the poar white mans head was
sh!el to protect the negro; that this had been in
1alSeo in BY ilin since they ha4 taken their
stand before the people, and although proven time
ana again to be incorrect, it still persisted in
70 show that they not anon f,esiise, ha said
ti-at the white poll paid taxes only for 2l years.
this was paid by ols only, negroes the contrary
PAID tlX upon their poll 50 years one third longer
than the whites negroes also paid this not upon
males only bat upon .Ttnales also, which might be
considered one half the negro polls. The idea of
the poor man head being shield q the Gov asked
II this degraded the poor man. the master of the
slave not also degraded; the whole thing was for eff
feet, and there reality in it. \ false impress
sion was attempted to be made by our opponents
that negro property worth one hundred and eigaty
million dollars only paid one hundred and eighteen
thousand dollars, i'll ALL when in fact it pays for
State and County purposes two hundred AID TWEEN
tyslX thousand two hundred and twenty four dollars
yearly. lie said land taxed more than its share
and he for its reduction. His competitor every
time he addresses the people, got further and frth
er from his platform, in fact lately he had lost every
plank but the negro plank and he expected he
would soon abandon that lie now says that ad
valorem will occasion losses In his speech at
Gatesyl.le he takes very different grounds.
lie sad II that speech th,t he was for taxing te
billiard table worth 500 upon par with land worth
5000 bllii,rd tables nolo pay 1925 land worth
S30o pays only one dollar, here would be IL loss of
~ dollars My competitor says he does not
c're 7" 81 INTO the details of the question: Well
my hlels 1t Is atl important for you 60 into
"details OF your tnAes-how much you pay and
inu- h you would have to pay under the ad vaIoren
system will now give you few of the details OF
the losses which you N Ike u to the treas
uiy In a few items Of gold and silver plate iewelry
gold and silver headed canes, dirks, knives &c IA clear
OF tilrt tuOu dollars will
The one item of money loaned out at interest is
s16oUU according to his system OF ad valoren
there would be clean loss OF thirty thousand
dollars, Ws4ile the additional revenue f. ON slaves
would not De over forty Thousand dollars. The
whole loss from such articles is two hun,ireu
and twentysiN tho Us ana dollars, 1lton4l
tax upon slaves forty Thousand collars; yet my
petitor says it is loss He refuses to 50 the
details. W ell my fellow cis zls the details what
people Want-thc details is wnat shows the
farmer third Of the present revenue now
comes from articles of this nature an that reduc
tion Of this by ad valore,n will make him bear it.
The that will go into the details of the rev
.nue is not tit to be your Governor.
MI Ellis said he for the abolition of the me-
chanics' tax-t was burdcnsome and unjust.
He then took up the question of taxes upon slaves
he said that the slave paid 26 in Moore county
upon his head to educate the poor mans children,
ne paid p cents for county purposes, AM twenty
cents upon each poll for the poor fund-there was
greater friend o the poor man than slave proper
ty. lie showed how articles OF luxury got clear OF
county taxes while the land and negroes paid the
whole burden; yet his competitor favored reducing
the tax upon money at interest, and silver and gold
plate, while paid nothing for county purposes, and
aooing 1t upon the farmers property not now taxed
ii competitor had hot no l.1n