The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-05-03
Proceedings Of the Rival Charleston
Conventions.
Fifty-seven Ballots and No Can
didate Nominated.
TIE REGULARS AT A DEAD LOCK.
Departure 0f the Mozart Hall
Delegates for Home.



The Movement OF the Friends OF
Hunter in Texas,
-, o., 10.
OUR SPECIAL CHARIESTON DESPATCH.
CHAn.moy, Nay q, 1860
ASssr NE thirty fourth ballot tho Convention adjourned
- I'VE s'clech 10 give time for CAUCUS.
n wAsls number Of votes now in the osnvsnton
D2 mo whole number II vstes sent 70 Convention 10
pa Under the resolution adopting tho two third rule
"a are necessary To choice. There are any one seoss
sasa voses There d dead lock.
M Douglas men have now majority in the Convea
ssos And ID expected they win proceed 70 repeal the
we third ruls, which understood win b ressssd BY
- New York delegation. Failing In thi hey win pro-
psss 70 adjourn TO Baltimore about tAs middle q June
n sAe secession Oonventtsn, the Committee on Plat.
rem have reported the majority resolutions Of the
ss.nrsee Of the other Convention, with the sub
sasus,en for the name Of the party Of the coasutu'
onal sssead OK national democracy, which adopted,
win NE exception Of the change Of name. Adjourned
- 70 morrow.
ny prediction in the HEAD Of Monday, received hero
to-day, sbou: poughs strength verified Ny prediction
Of The Sen arrived here just vhss was taking place on
ssssrsaysveuipg Amidst the excitement, II We like
s.srs with the news
ressutos 70 lay the motion the table, requiring
ne hundred and two votes for nomination, being two
sAsds Of the whole Electoral College, was lost the voe
Sssss ln ayes aod III nays. This lot by the vote
Of New York and sesms decisive against Douglas beat
ID him in his own Convention. The Chair decided that
sru, that two thirds Of the vote given 2o2 votes,
and % an appeal from the dscson Of The Chair made by
Ne friends Of Douglas, the motion 10 sustain was carried
New York voting in The aIirmAtive-lA ayes 10 los
asyS This another vote against Douglas The change
Vie fortunes Of Douglas brought about by the change
Of veto or two delegation from New York. giving
tie 80 votes against Douglas.
me Secession Convention "a the nrst step 70 separa-
ssu Of the South from the North. The Caroiuans
sesesssd att II has been long since planned; and one
q the leaders has said tina, he been working for II
SOs ten years.
Mr. B,ser Of Pennsyvanla, and Others are trying 70
sses cenpromse and bring the seceders back TO the
ossvenno but that hopeless. The secession spirit Is
zoo ssroas and the Southern delegates unlike Northern
pslsscians are in earnest Many Of them were CAD TO
ne, this opportunity Of forming Southern party Tue
ues that can be accomplished endorsement by the
rsosders Of good nomination.
The Douglas men do no, want 20. the seceders
back su, are anxious drive the rest Of lie Southern
men out
me friends Of Douglas now ooncede thAih IA beaten
heir besstins wss just whs, told youa game Of bras
He emily received half from the Southern saics
These we're minority from Tennessee, North csIo
Bs and Missouri II the Douglas men had succeeded,
sbey would have nominated serhens Of Georgia. for Vice
presdent In the case Of anal failure, Stephens perhap'
viii be offered for President
uor.uo seymour has the mea Of the New York deIega
ten and they could effect combination they would fetch
him ND Bot they mus, now sOosp, Southern man, or
have no nomination.
II no, expected that anything viii be done before
Fra,y or Saturday bat the Convention may break up In
srsw before then
The withdrawal Of J,hrson Of Tennessee, and Of Brcck
irIlose-wto as ys, received 10 vOiessave hope thsi
some rev movement WAS on foot but II has only result.
oil ye, IN putting up Guthrie to sixty six and bringiOs
Hunter down 10 siS,eerOry thar the vote OF
Virginia.
douglas Dow wants hAlf vote a a majority.
TIE rejection OF the motion 10 aourn 70 Baltimore IN
TIE ars, week IN June, offered by friend OF Douglas IN
the Maryland delegation, shows hs this aghi Is 10 be
sosunued for some time longer b, sexpeeted New
York ~In soon brcak % frem DOuslS
Ore Ct the greatest strokes OF strategy the saop
roa Of the two thirds rule r widest sense by which
the south has out generated the Douglas Many
the Douglas mes In the New York Delegation DID no,
know The sres, O. their vote when they voted Tor n
These Who did know frightened by the threat Of
The withdrawal Of the Of the South. One Of The
mos, active her. sgsDs, Douglas Is sam. c Reid
Jr., Of Isusana, brother Law Of George ~ s,nders
Fernando Wood The delegation TO which he be
lonred len this ,nernOOn in the James Ads.r Tor Sew
York. He says he 10 no, committed W either ooavcp.
Ton tia he sees ,belr action. II. ~~ accompanied ny
Mr. Awresce. Of Louisiana
To The New York delegation here IA a great ror
Corning charges Richmond with selling them and 70 NOR
row morning Clancy will produce In the Convenuou (
seceasary, . written document 10 show that there !
another the vote Of the delegation should be chang
ed from Douglas, a. II % said soon wi be.
Rs stated that . portion Of Virginia win break o.
tomorrow, and that the Douglas party expec, an &C
ossson from To night they couhdessiy say thai the,
v'r esther nominate him or sdjourn 10 New York
TIE ncknsoa men say their candidate vIli come u