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The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-09-06

Auc comparison II IN favor oA aais youi IA osciy
apartment. Our imports of foreign goods have
ben larger than last year and the year before;
pr exports Of produce much larger; our exports
Ii specie also In excess. The public will proba-
y be surprised to find our imports so large, as
r the past seven months they have rather fallen
slow 1859; but in August last year the importers
I'd begun to get frightened and fewer goods were
ming to hand. This year the importers have
me 90 well that they have been increasing their
|ders, and September will show still larger in
ease than August. The increase in the domestic
eadstufs. At this time last year we were ship
log very few bushels of wheat or barrels Of
|bur. Now we are sending million dollars worth
both week. The bullion export win proba-
y look large; 1t exceeds most Of the estimates
at have been made, and will probably prove
Q largest monthly export Of the year.
At this time last year the country was beginning
recover from the long depression occasioned by
e crisis of 1857. The Western wheat crop,
ough very far inferior to that of this year, was
,nsderably better than that Of 1868, and that re-
on was correspondingly Improving in means and
edit. The Southern crop Of cotton already pro-
be0 INC euOImOuS WCTodbc OtcE pIctiOun years
hich IL subsequently redeemed. Trade was &C.
I've on the seaboard; the imports were unprece-
entedly large. Money.in New York was ashade-
|it only shade-cheaper than it is at present;
|e quoted call loans 6, and the best short paper
per cent. Exchange on England was at the
me price rs now; the leading bankers were ask
Ito for sixty days, and llo3 al for short
yht; francs were quoted 5.13l. In Europe the
lace negotiations were slowly proceeding at
rich, and Piedmont and Tuscany were arranging
conditions Of the consolidation Of the Northern
ates Of Italy, in spite Of the treaty Of Viafanca.
10 British funds were higher than they are; they
ere quoted at s5 1, the wheat crop in England
hing splendid, and the general business prospect
sht. Stocks, In our market, were improving, on
strength Of the commencement Of better re.
ipts on the railways but the prices were general
9 10 per cent below those now ruling.
The month OF August was the second month Of
e fiscal year 1901, and we therefore commence
II tables with the two months, July and August
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LAupcr-se aesmsh,p King wfl be launched froa
she w~servsn sApyard foot a Houston street, Eas River p
dAy sursdsyi n o'ciost shs BUN for xssS spo6ord
rn~ssou Co.'S Charleston line. and WIN be commanded By
Capt Adams. Of Ire James Adser Hes dimenaous are:-
I~ssn ~ fess brsadA q bsan fssl dspo Il boa
n fsst- a. about iaeo to1s.
arvAvsmrr CuvsAyxAwp-as~snnsh sept CSeen<hp Mo~t.
r~ry vent 70 NE ~ chemnpcahe Ashore Al
fybee but could Do boshina Capt Bsry came as eve
nrr Nnd thinka ~ NAP wnrk into deep wDv. she
was tkaha vb~s - len or TELL
Ruty noHsuop mcvvfson. frm Pensacola sw rerrol,
nuajp put Into bosom en- having sruch The bar wh
mne on Peacols end sprung alene. ksa ben orig 4
~ e esrro y s4iocS issi q lumber asa t.bss.
BAss vs. q Asp~rscr, HaI u Boston frun rsbs Dv, p.
Two Rrah veeh wrerked and several cshess srs1s
ssy. and Capt w.mssi and Ss vie psssssrsr ne
WIN A.
prrR FrAvvr Nsrs-Hstsr~s. NO. Aug U-schr Fianss
Mars, r Baltimore, from Richmond Tor me riescn WIZ
n 30 boxes ohecco i5h hhs Do psir 1onne ND
sinrle wheels ard qrsntity o. ru~1 spWr wss
ys~srdsy wr~cked Ha~ras Inlet Ascui - bosss $1,000
ans ~ kees rsruex spikes have been seved no
Nc eniiys cargo WI Be ks vsah~ proves svofso@-tnS
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NEW YORK CATTLE MARKET.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. s, 1890.


The sudden advance in the rates Of freight whish
agreed to by the agents Of the ave trunk railways and
their connections at the convention recently held II Cn
cinnat led TO most rapid movement the part Of GER
tain drovers who about start for the seaboard
with their STOCK and the result was tremendous influx
Of cattle from all the Western States The eject viii mot
prove % bad al nrst expected, though droves
continue 70 agtate the subject considerably. II now
turns out that for heavy cattle about - 70 u 80 per
extra wiz have 10 be paid but for light cattle the
about % per ea There sale at the various
yards more cattle than We ever saw in them q
any one time, and in consequence the market
thought that tie decline would have been much greater
but for the fact that many Of the dealers anticipating
very small supply for the next market day and there
fore show disposition 70 buy while thefe plenty
probability will by neat week, In case the receipts
prove light, for neither butchers drovera will sudor
themselves TO lose anything by the operaion and
purchases corresponding g The ncrssssd rats Of
for they Will have 70 do IT, despite The hue and cry got up
by the dealers about certain ruin, he. Tho average
quality Of the offerings 70 day Wa unusualy good
evidently lack Of prime bulocks, such -
are wanted by tho nrst class butchers, and prices
for this description nearly high last wednss
day. very large proportion Of Tho cattle were placed
The market excited that next impossibs 70 give
any very definite and thctory report proceedings
the great Washington drove yards In Forty fourth
Il ali the yards, ASIA head, which, together win nc
head 81 Bergen Hin, ma<es grand total for the week Of
$50 bead, the largest nunber on sAe ever romcm
Der tc have seen ~ any one tne Iae total receipts q
al The yards TOR the week and Ass week were - FOL
waAingon Broxns~os Czamts-lin'a UBrssn'a
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me Chicago nma o. the LIST int. gayr-me receipts
Of grain on yesterday 81 as bnshe f85 AL bush
ea of which were wheat he steamers nevx, reporting
IN advance In Europe and favorable dispatches from
New YORK. caused hrm feeling and advance OF &c.
r. ell grades ~ wheat No red winter sold NJ u 90
No do Al eco e5ks, No spring at soc. 9ic., No
DO. ~ &c e1kc, and reested spring Al 7ec. Tsc
Tour nrm, with good inquiry, at "a 50 "a 30 fov
good 70 choice spring wheat brAnds, and ~ for good
pcrnne There little done In corn, and the market
remained quiet n ssc Cor No 85c s6k for No. IN
store, and s1c axe FOR fair canal, saoAt Oats
quiet ~ 1ekc 9oc, In store Rye and barley In god
request 1t FORMER prices. Hehwlnes advanced 70 19s
Tor round, and 2Oc fov small lots FreighE arm n
1sc for wheat 10 Buffalo, and tonnage scarce.
The Milling Oh Ia ths rccspss Of eour during The past
month, ompared win 1852 70 be sttrbuted 70 the Low
state q wafer ~ present and during the past summer, In
moa q M rivers IN Illinois and Iowa, In consequence
" which larger sumbw Of mills have been stopped.
ne receipm of wheat larger during The past oath
By about 80 go bushels than occurred In any sage
csth during The history Of chicago ~ compared With
ne same moth g any previous ysa they are larger By
ms csisass Pyss ssd Tribune, uadsv aaAs q ri.
day evening, thus notices the mo&W and en-.
change markst Of that citys--Tbe ursssk demand
for Eastern exchange this morning caused tha
banks generally 70 advance the rates sae quar-
Ter per cent and sAlcs unifoymly made Al per
cent premium In The afternoon, however, the market
vas scarcely % urn, and there was ies dculy found
In buying on the street than 81 the close yesterday. Win
continuation Of The present liberal receipts Of producs
and buoysnt market, only requires goot supply Of
vessels 70 mSe our shipping large enough " cause do
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Mich cows.
The demandGoY good 10 prime mich cows OF deersbie
raey active and ia some cases very high prioss have
sale q Ilch cows which may = wen Be- nsssiossd here
We refer 10 the custom Of sanding thass creatures down
s. !, s r.. s,. s Ton g ne s
hs.s and sSs ss sy y s
sss. fs nssos ought % = sss..s .. saos
and of1osrs doing duty In such localities should
~. Dozen On every y1s ssy Rs se es'' %
are regular yards provided for them, and they should be
s 70, ac s ss
receipts AZ al the yards foe the wssk and lAss week
EaAiass~- B's~~snss cAs-s~s:.,s oBr~,.
n H.. . .s,s 81 . . q
Good 70 prime veal continued in good demand ~ the
fan prices quoted above some choice offerings brought
somswsAi ssher rr'oss me bun . .ns onsrinr we're
ss5,y The pens were closed out before the closs,
hour n the snevpcou The total receipts a NE ysrds
for The veck and last veek - folovss-
wssA..gon Brvxm,-g's CAa~eylsn'a OBres's.
iss ~ses. .ass 81 i1 %
sHxEr AND LAMBS.
cr,.s.r X. very srrs number On ale q ne various
yards served 70 degrees Ne Hesket considerably, and
cents pr head al round Extra nat sheep are readily
tah~r a. our outside prices md fs hba ap eet With
r~sy sse Il the reduction no1sd shove ali q inferior and
ordinary descriptions N ample supply and hard q
sAe while the above quotations may be considered more
IL nominal There large number Of oommoa grades
N the yards today, but rood qualities cold pretty
close upon arrival The total receipts II all The yArds
"' we w vsss s,~-sys css'ss..s:.s osrs.s
E IT,. wee. week.. | s 3: SIS q. AS
SWINE. .,
ne demand contIaues fair and, Notwithstanding ths
receipts are pretty heavy, pvices maintained mere
10 exc pw pound
RKCAPrTULArT0N.
me total receipts Of all stock Al all ths yards fyr The
wesk and nss week were fe1owss-
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Ii win thus be seen that the new fiscal year opens
kietly, with . fair average movement In every
anch, but without any tendency to excess There
reason to believe that both the imports and ex
prts Of the year-from LIST July, 1850, to soth
me, lsel-are likely to prove the heaviest in the
story Of the port.
The following tables will show the movement for
eight months which have elapsed Of the current
klcudar year.
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CITY COMMERCIAL REPORT.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. SIP.

ASHES The market Was quiet, and sales confined 70
small lots Of pots at SIC. and Of pearls 0t $500.
BRRADsTuYs-Flour-The market In the forenoon OPEN
ed frm, but - the day advanced grew lees actve and
after the steamers closed quietly at about the quota
ons OF yesterday The transactions for the day footed up
about 10 bb closing within the range Of tho follow,
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TIDE wArn REcurrs TuRor0H THE ESrx CANAL.
rhe receipts NJ tidcwatcr Of ho1r wheat AMI bar
ley for the burh week Of August 1859 and 1890 have
been follows
Tar, bsss. wAea, buA. c6rr, bvsA Bvs>y bssA
1850 49, 800 1850 1900 II TOO
1850. 80. rs 500 sTs,2oo Ni,ioo $500
liner. .ie 200 sgs,7oo ss5 TOO Deer. 900
The aggregates a the recepss Of the above articles, 70
far for the years 1859 and 1850 have BEEN
1870 syi 40 "a 400 iscs.7oo ia 900
iseo. So1 600 sUTpo eoss,ooo 800
rn-y los 500 sl0Q 500 sos5 500 Deer 70 500
Redueips the wheat hour, the In the receipts
OF 1850 b equal " I OF zoo bbls. OF four.
nxCurrs AT CHICAGO.
The following table shows the amount Of nour and xraia
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dfrVritornt ~S~'S~~f v VOC Du1ru On UhN

Letter p Ewood Waller Es Secretary Of the oard N On,
scss saAv=ospt Smith, Of schr Deksrsoo !. sss
1n - rnl,depnn rcpors-ls inst Highlands Of NesS-
nnk nv miles fell In with schr (efore rruortS
OF Mlyie NJ her beam supposed % ia se
took from her the mainsAn boom Her boat
and boat mile Of the full Of wstsr sis
crew. -
scHR MErs Townsend, which arrived at Panama TIL -
from Ban Francisco reports July IS when 10 miles ADORE
near bertsd coast Of Salvador. the vessel was struck
times the sarbaard quarter BY swordhsh which
slight leak until the cargo taken out when portion hs
sword found fir My bedded In o. the schs imbes
and the marks OF two other blows from the
clearly vsble.
ScHR COLORADO (of Gloucester, Brown totally lost
Seven lands IN the Bay Of 81 lawrence The 9Th Of An.
gust last.
Sen. AEcnc q Phsdephia from 81 John, NIB. ,os dsas
load and boat during Sc gale.
ship Mary Of New Bedford which has been in port snes
May, 1859 and time since bought at auction by Will YIN
Bro wne to be altered 10 bark fitted for whaling an1
Will be commanded By Capt Woodward late of bark Ua v1
aavscn-schr Annie Ben Of 100 ton. was launched u a
Swned by Franklin Treat intended for tho Prince EdwHrd1
iSiand trade and 10 be commanded by Capt Crockcr
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FINANCIAL AND CONNER GAL.

WEDNESDAY, Sept. Sc P. N.
The Custom House rsssmas Of the trade Of the
ort for the month of August sre e'V'Ve 'us asy,
nd we present our usual comparaty.> tables-
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RScKrTs BIZ rfU NEW YORK AND kirk RAILROAD.
Attle..............72o5 sheep. Z, 20
Hoys...". ....,.. so2 Calves. q
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The Cincinnati Enquirer Of August 81 says

TOTAL.
The amount at the several depositaries, subject
to the draft Of the Treasurer Of the United States,
ON the 27th OF August, was a follows
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snip Harriet Erymg from Boston Valparaiso Sept l. 4
Q Pm, Cape Cod NV 10 mica
snip Hortensa from Liverpool for Charleston. Aug 20
chip steering painted white leters In her ers
topssn, Vas seen Jny %, lat 10 Is N, lon 10 w.
large ahip with double skysas s.eerfnu
seen Aug II, lat II 90 N, Ion 80 70.
An Am bark steering NNW, showing q white dRusl vtA \
black cross IN 4, Aug ls lat 1885 lon 81 81
Brig May Morton !Br 10 days from Baltimore for Barba-
sshr lnos ship &ispnisD Brilliant. uoschkis fou Baau.
more for Ban Francisco June - lat 80 20 lon 81 o.
schr Frances HAWKINS, Of Easham from Cape Hayu fr
Boston Sept lat IS y II miles Of Sandy Hook-by pose
boat Washington. NoE
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WESTERN GRAIN IN 0Yo

WESTERN GRAIN IN GEORGIA.
Within few days past say the Macon (Ga) journal
there have been large arrivals by railroads OF
oats, barley, and hour The Macon and Western
pot crowded with IT, Much has gone into our stores
and there large shipments for places beyond. Moo
OF II from ~ Louis Cincinnati other places
the far West Tho price Of here held at 06 cent?
70 81 per bushel.
The home journal. (Winchester, Tenn.) 1858-188?, 1860-03-22

VERY FAST.

we often hear persons Boosting that
ours is an age ofprogress--that we live
in n region Of steamboats,, railroads, tel
ographs and collcges-and that our ia.
~cilities for education, agriculture, manu-.
features and commerce are so far sumo.
rior to those enjoyed by our forefathers.
1t is true, we do live in Il fast age, and
as a nation we live in II hurry-do ali
that we do in Il hurry-make, buy, sell, :
consume, and even educate in q hurryl
But il occurs to us hat much that is
done in such hot haste must be very i'm.
perfectly done. Vegetation is forced
forward in hot houses-secds are plant.
ed in the Spring before the earth is
YARN enough to cause them to we're.
tate--childrcn are sent to school while
they are but infants, only to become
Disguised with that which their minds
are not sufficiently matwrod to compre.
bend and men, to revive their over.
taxed energies, resort TO an unnatural
stimulus, thereby contracting Il habit
whichproycs their utter ruin. Parents
boast that their children know as mucb
at twelve as they did at tw%cnty.one
when those parents have not, PERTAINS
stopped in their eager chase after tho
world for a single moment, to remem.
per that parental responsibility has in.
creased in proportion to the early devol-
opmcnt Of the child, and to ascertain
whether the education Of its manners
and morals has kept pace with its intel
lcctual advancement, The business
man seems to have no time to attend to
those matters. He must Law up for
tune for his childrcn-a fortune to start.
them in life. Better teach them hoy TO
live than give them money on which
to live. How many parents ever think
ofthcsc things?
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THE Two IIEIRs.-"I remember
says the late Postmaster General of the
United States, "the first time | visited
Burlington, VT, rs Judge OF the Sup
RENE Court. ! had left it many years
before, Il poor boy. At the time left
there were two families Of special note
us to their standing and wealth, Each
Of them had a son about my W age
| was very poor, and these boys were
very rich. During the long years of
hard toll which passed before my re-
turn, | had almost forgotten them
They had long ago forgotten me.
Approaching the court house, for the
first time, in company with several gen
tlemen Of the bench and bar, | noticed,
in the court house yard, Il large pile OF
old furniture about to be soldat auction.
The scenes ofearly boyhood with which
| was surrounded prompted me to ask
whose it was. ] was told it belonged
to Mr.. J. Mr.. j? | remember Il fam
lily of that name very wealthy; there
was n son, too; can it be he! was
told it was even so. He was the son
of one of the families already alluded to;
He had inherited more than | haa
earned, and spent it all; and now DIS
family was reduced to real want, anu
his furniture was that day to be sou
for debt. | went into the court house
suddenly, yet almost glad that was
born poor. | was soon absorbed III .nv
business before me. One OF the nrs'
cases called originated in a low drum
EN- quarrel between Mr.. II. and ME- "a.
Mr.. H., thought |, that IS a lamlna
name. Can it be? In short, l lounr
that this was the son of the other "s"r
thy man referred to! l was overNn
medalike with stonishmentandt nanN
giving-astonishment at the c~hahgGm
our relative standing, and thanksSNI,S
that | was not born to inherit "e'''"
without toll. .ho;r
Those fathers provide best ior inh.
children who leave them with the bs
est education, the purest morals an''
least money
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LOVE US AT HOME.

All! yes, We can bear The days burden and heat,
Ihcdu-t and rule jo,tling, we find in the street.
And ccnsuring whispers that loatt till they meet
The ear, they were never intended to greet,
fthey love Us sincerely at home.
We can bear by the crowd to be hurried along.
Down-trodden, supplantcd, oppressed by the
strong.
We can bear even lasting and unprovoked
wrong.
II or hearts through it all can chant truly the
song.
Oh! they love US most dearly at home.
We can bear a wild storm, be it snow, hail or
rair.
Heavy losses instead ofthe long looked for gain,
Upbraidings and shadows that creep round our
name,
And threaten it, brightness to hide or to stain.
Ii they love Us sincerely at home.
Oh, love US at home. For this treasure we
plead,
With all else. this withheld, We are poor in
deed.
Take all, but leave this, and with voices agreed,
We will sing with glad hearts, whatever our
need,
They stilllove us-they love u. at home
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Washington Correspondence.
WASHINGTON CITY, ID. C.,
March 10Th, 1850.

NhSlllNTON CITY, II. g.,
March 10Th, 1860.
Coz. SLATER
What Il day may bring forth, no one
AN tell. Fresh in my memory just
now is Il scene which happened in good
old Winchester. 1t wa "oncc upon Il
time Two boys, almost merging from
youth into manhood, sat in the room
over the Drug Store offs. W. II. 4 Co.,
and with light hearts and baOyan;
spirits, chattcd hopefully of the future,
indulging dreams peculiar to such IN
ace. You formed one half the audi
cncc-l the other. Some years havo
elapsed since that time, and VIC have
both experienced many of the ups and
downs peculiar to the followers of the
cart preventative" In the course OF
time | became master of apolitical craft,
you of Il literary craft. The consc-
quencc-you have sailed ovcr q smooth
sea, ] over Il rough one; | have fought
the battles of my country, You have
guarded the interests of society; have
become Il sort of government machine,
you are us free as the air you breathe
that is if You are not in lore, as usual.
In looking back over the volumes which
memory has compiled since the event
above alluded to, the dark, bright, and
varied leaves of natures book present
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cd with taxes" ooh no! General, it's
not the taxes that we oppose curt tax
es have been reduced considerable Of
late, and rs the 81 ,000i is to be paid in
three annual installments, it would not
Cypress us much, But the Py(acipIe Of
the thing, Gcneral,-thc principle -
Thcroupon the General explains to him
the digereace between internal improve.
mcnts by the General Government,
and improvements by Il C0patB for u
County benefit. And then the General
calpIy asks him; "My friend and bro
thcr, whcrci is the turnpike to run to-"
80 the University grounds at Sewa-
nee" "And you drag up 4 m~jsconcclv-
ed Interpretation Of my doctrines in or
der to defend your opposition toan en-
tcrprise like that, after having been Ia
vorod rs you have in the establishment
Of the University, | have just been
hearing about .-out-0W with you,
and never dare to approach me again
with such II plea, 1t is calling to my
spirit to have such an imputatiOn cast
upon myself through Il Il Is, understand
inr Of my Drinciplcs. Out with VOu,
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claims against Mexico are immense, and
if some party does not give indemnity
pretty soon, | think Uncle Sam will
help himself to n few more slices like
Texas and California.
OCCASIONAL.
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Home, beyond comparison, is the
abode Of all the graccs, MT the leastat-
tractive ofthcm being those intellectual
mes which relieve the domestic inter
course Of the inevitable sameness that
occurs when they are not present. Mu-
sic c%rtainly lends cnchantmcnt to the
brightest f tirc-sidcs; but from the
brIiilancy Of its generations it is apt to
pail upon the sense Of enjoyment. 1t
does more than chcer--i. incbriatos. 1t
one moment lifts decentralization above
its natural level, at another ~luIIsit into
aSoothinglethargy; but rarely makes
it cool, rational, or mirthlul. 1t is IN
excitement requiring intervals of indul-
gcnce to be hcuIthfl to the system
When prolonged its stirring influence
holds the brain prisoner, and for time,
units it for other, and in q degree not
less harmonious sensations; for the
mind has an appetite as well as the
body, and may be ovcrcloyed with Il sur
felt Of n%cctarinc sweets. Music, then,
lisa mental stimulus, which, to be appre
GATED, must be only received OCCASION
ally; but when blended with CONVERSE
ton, the objection hat has been star
led is immediately removed. In conver-
%sation, however, lies the greatest charm
to 4 thoughtful mind. 1t is so i~nstruc-
tive, and yet so clcgant-so winning,
and still scnsible-that its fascination
is likes spell cast over the human being
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JAe Aome Sourual.
BY w. j. SLAI'l'liR.
THE VIRNPiKE-"VARRO'S CON MC-
NICATION!

] II w. J I l.'I IL r--'N hhIND > N'l -
NIcATloM
In this paper to-day is another com
muMication from "Nurro,' in opposi-
ton to the proposed Turnpike to Scwa-
nee, and in oppositionto the University,
for to oppose one is TO oppose the oth0'
We did not desire TO enter into an ar
sumcnt with "Varro,' II, we have be-
fore stated. and we will not do SO now.
We shall merely attempt to answer in
A very bricfmanncr, the elaJoratc article
Of his in this nnmbor OF our paper, and
in DOING so we presume the matter be.
tween "a will bcut an end, for he SAYS