The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-01-04


Mr. CwssuT, (der) Of e G., denied the correctness o.
he s.sement. The South held that tho true position
I Wy %as .rI said ss Southern men did not justify
slavery on ground slavery but tsox he
broader ground that the natural position Of aooref Is
Mr. Clay, dem Of Ala. said tina. ouch statement
was wholly Snfoulaod and should not be made without
su.fcien, evidence. When the Senator produced the
s sslses extract as eai the ' akss " se l'
Mr. Bsows, Of Mss, sad the Senator from w.sc nsn
mslook the position o. the South hey neleveo nat sa
slaves occupied higher position malAly, socially and
ply sicaly, than any laborers on the globe.
rans but What DO sSSea
that very few Of them took the ground q that time that
the Congress Of the United States under the constitution
hbn.on. The history Of this government from the be-
ginning down 70 1s47 was history Of prohibition en- tho
part Of Congress- and there never was an act sS'hSr
Cniled States which did not, in tho act Of organic
ing that Territory, recognise the power Of Con,
iegsIae by way Of restriction upon slavery evey Ter
rtory previous to 1s47 But Mr. President, will have
occasion refer to that in detail before coaclude
my remarks. desire FOR single moment now TO in
qure, and possible TO probe this thing TO the b,om,
and ascertain who is the presiding spirit that brought
The truth is that The South have changed their ground
the subject OF slavery We stand where you and your
years ago. You have ana your fathers admitted slavery
10 be evil, and did not take the ground that was
blessing in accordance with natural rights not until within
the last few years Did you assume the doctrine that
tie natural condition Of the laboring man and his
normal condition ID that OF SLAYER II is within the last
few years that this doctrine has been pronugcd in the
south II rules your schools, your churches
Mr. CHESTNUT, (dem.) Of s. c. linterrruptng)-l deny
that the position Of the South Is that the normal condition
Of the laboring ia that Of slavery The position is
that the normal condition OF the African is that OF sa
very. 1t is the true, and natural and beneficial cond
tom not OF he aborng man, but OF the African aoorer
Mr. DoolTIlE-I understand Mr. President that the lead
ing men Of the SOUTH some Of them at least, and lead
ing journals OF the South undertake justify sla
very upon the ground Of negro slavery alone The cole
brated Rericc Of Mr. De Bow. and the Richmond Esami
ner few years ago. and the book OF Mr. F2hugh, take
the ground that they justify slavery not because slaves
negroes and descendants OF Ham, but put tupon the
broad grounds the natural defensble ground and that
that the natural normal condition Of the aborng Is
thar of ave, and that the true ground to reconcile this
conflict Of opinion between capital and labor is this, that
capital should own its labor.
Mr. Clay, (dcm. Of Ala )-That is very grave accuse
the Senator makes against the South aud he should not
the production Of the evidence It is wholly unfounded
in fact and does not correctly represent the people have
the honor to represent or the people Of any other section
of the Southern staes and whom the Senator brings in
his evidence hope he will produce not extract but
the original from which he deduces in order that may
test the fairness Of the extract when compared With the
text from which il was garbed
Mr. BRowy-l announced more than ten years ago that
regarded slavery as great moral, social and political
will give, very briefly the reasons Iwant the Senator
to understand our position and why We apply this doc
trne 10 negro mol 70 the Wnltc man. t0rec
or four millions Of negroes in bondage in the Southern
States moral social and religious beings, will compare
favoraby with three millions Of the anywhere;
and put that proposition TO the Senator now, that the
four millions of Southern slaves moral social and
lgous beings, occupy higher position than any -four mil
to to auho
rity on this question do not say that all the
leading Of the South take the ground that
the aborng man is slave, whether white or black; but
do maintain, sir, that some OF tho leading men at the
South take that ground and Justify upon the ground
Of capital and labor is simply histhat capital should
own its labor and not hire H. Now the honorable sena
me bis speec che
the "mud Sill speech and in which language was used
substantially taking the ground that the aborng white
the South.hat they were held in condition Of slavery.
Mr.. CHEsTSuT-I would say Sir, that the opinions as
as e I onnors ana %
all other persons who think at ais that the white man.
whether he be aborer or not stands in this country
make distinction except where the s not laborer
Where the man In the South is not aborer he s not
the peer not the equal Of him who Is laborer II is
suppose that the white men Of the South-those Of
respectable character those who contribute to
the character and welfare Of countryarc not aborers
sir is peculiar distinctive charactistc that all
laborcrs. Many gentlemen speak Of the free aborers Of
the South. They speak as if they never saw one. /
would say TO gentlemen now you behold free laborer
of the South bear the omission of the state Of South
Carolina. free laborer Of the South, and IT
ourselves No, sir, no. Tho position is this-that the
natural, appropriate and beneficial relations existing
between the two races now IN the country ~ tina. Of mas
nefcia servitude the other-beneca to both races
and peculiarly TO the subservient That b the
may not afterwards place upon the people Of
South Carolina the ridiculous idea that they hold in con-
tempt the free laborcr-that we contemn ourselves:
not what extracts read-speak from knowledge,
speak for seand that is the true ground the real
opinion, the only feeling in South Carolina; and II there
difference II is that the man who does not labor SUI
fcrs in comparison throughout the entire South.
Mr. DoolIB-I do not deny that the men Of the South
differ upon this question. Some maintain this doctrine
that the normal condition applies TO the negro race and
the negro alone but do maintain are leading
at the South and leading at the South who
slavery but upon the broad higher ground that capital
should own its labor and not hire it. \
Sr. PueH, (dem) Of ohio-wll the Senator name some
man newspaper that has adhered to this docrine7
Mr.. DooIn1IE-I will name the Richmond Esaminr.
Mr. nooltte then read an editorial from that paper in
normal and natural and universal condition Of the labor
er. The Richmond Enquirer is ancther-
Mr.. CIVIL do DC: :r G. slavery there, but
Richmond Examiner holds to the doctrine that slavery
the normal condition of the aborng class say the very
extract read fails to sustain his allegation. venture to
assert that IL he produces the whole article
II will dsproye II clearly. Now, with the
Senator's permission, / will remark that l have
own language has by garblng speech delivered five
years ago. been interpreted as evidence against the ns
tntion-l maintain is blessing both to the white and
black man. and that representation has been reiterated
time and again upon this floor, although upon than
one occasion corrected IT, find that this North Ca.
D his and .SansS S 1a has
records he would have found that the preceding and
ceeding sentences denied the deduction he made from
Hence say, with respect to this, the Seuaor deals
unfairly and uustly TO the South and unusty to himself
from newspaper and attribute opinions to the editor Of
q newspaper which he does not maintain