Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1860-11-30

Senator Robbins said there another view In which
This bill should pass n the names of these sgners are
kept upon the bond they situated 10 were, in
chains. They will in short time endcavor 10 escape
from these chains We should look IL in moral light
How many men have been driven from their homes
nave been forced 20 leave the country or % cnga TO
The wcstin order t0 secure 10 themselves their honest
oAunRs} lts certain, moreover that the assets Of in
viduas situated like these have never increased IL is
suggested hat the claim m1ht still be kept but n they
dispose NJ a their property for the benefit Of the state,
be thought was mere justice thathcy be discharged
Senator Peck remarked that Il would be noticed that
la ol provides that the committee may II they deem
iar ihc interest of the state, make settlement aud dis
WHuui es harunF the surotes from their habtnues II
appeared before the committee that two individuals Mr.
Carpenter aut Sir Bclknap. an the bouds cx-
ccpt the last and they have IN their hands something
over s3 O)l, made over 10 them by Mr. Bates 20 ndcm
nuy them. There a further STIMULATION that after
zf-rs Carpenter and Belknap had been ndcmuided for
ttt portion NJ the defalcatiou which might have
ed under the bonds previous to the one Of last year the
rfdue Of this sum should be applied 10 indemnify the
,Igners of The last bond IL appeared moreover that
the persons who signed the bond Of last year persons
of small means compared with the OF the bond.
lhecomnittco had not thc means Of telling how much
Of thchaby accrued under the bonds previous o that
of last year and how much under that bond 10 Is only
then 10 relation TO the surplus Of the deilCatun that 10
becomes material 10 ascertain whether IL Is the bonds
prior 10 last year not Now IL appeared 20 him that
any individual who had claim NJ this character, pro-
msing such litigation must be involved in order TO
trace hc proceedings Of the treasurer and ascertain what
sappcaho 90 the bond Of last year aud TO those prior 70
t. likely 90 be fruitful OF controversy and hudn'ome
point uf expense 20 both parties, would much prefer
mode Of settlement like this.
It appcnrci to the committee that suite bad bccn
brought and property attached and aleo that tu hai
been brought t1 trustee Ncssrs Carpentor and tsulp
Iht. bill pro,des that this commit may acttlc Che
whole matter d they dccmit FOR the interest of Che state
90 do SOC They may settle with any moro nt these
sgncrs II they see CT. they may make arrange
mcnt io DISCHARGE any one Of them or 10 restore property
which is attached The committee thought those gentle.
men culd do better By The state than the state coud o
20 io on WIN The suits They thought Il might ne irhc
interest Of the state in dollars and to make this
settlement II we can benefit the state, them and hen
eft also these unfortunate sgners, there "a nothing u IL
but matter of Justice. He did understand that the
state should entirely Indifferent to the interests OF these
indi,duas Suppose some Of these Young men have
friends and i' should appear that the state had got all
which they posses, aud fricnd should step forward
and offer pay three thousand dollars u the
state will discharge them.
lfan individual had such suit as this It would be iu-
huiiey better br him TO accept such sum than IN take
the pancc which the Young men might earn 10 the fn'
ure Slch would be the advice o lawyer. Nov there
no who is authorized 70 entertain proposals Here
Is litigation with no one authorized the part o the
State To settle u even by such settlement the State may
make thousands. Hence he favored the appointment of
this committee who should exercise their own judgment
in lhc investigation and settlement Of the matter.
Senator On remarked that when be first spoke this
subject the senate had NO explanations whatever IN re-
gard TO the matter Now that such explanations have
been had, be would not say thathe not satisfied He
differed, however, with the Senator from Addison, who
hat stated that suspected but that every thing
was right lie him self told year ago that the young
mon who ou this bond were not sufficient that the
rcasufcrs books were not in good condition and that
before the3c ar0und the State Of Vermont would
be under fifty thousand dollars He had talked Of this
matter with various men and when he proposed 70 intro
auce aresouton OF enquiry ne was told by ms pafuo1
lar friends wait II was said "thc bonds cannot be al
tered let the matter rest" lie was not, however, OPP
posed n this proposition. He was willing the matter
should be settled up.
Senator Woodward desired that measure should be
adopted which should bring the matter 10 a final settle
ncnt. He would be glad however, TO have the Lcgsla-
ure take that kind OF action which would not lead to the
conclusion where that bonds not to be held respon
afNI a.. 20 la
tAecd To securities That DONE he presumed there
wh did not desire that these young men should be
released.
senator Bcatic thought that another good reason for
this arrangement that these never should have
been on the bond. They could not pay the amount II
they TO apply every dollar which possible for
them raise II thought il act of justice to
these young make settlement, especially il
seems that was known year ago that there was deia-
cation.
Senator Armstrong hoped the bill would pass. He
thought always best to settle matter by arbitration
when this could be done. He thought il cheaper way.
lie fs doe To himself to say that he was not ia posses
sion Of the knowledge which his colleague possessed lie
had heard that the books we're not property kept but the
idea Of dcfalcauon never entered his mind. Had IL
done nothing should have deferred him from taking
steps 20 ascertain the truth
The yeas aud nays were taken, the call Of Senator
Hall, and the bill was passed-yeas %. nays none.
nus pTYscd-F0r tn relief Of the town of Whiting
nam. In amendmento Of an act relating the duties and
establishing the salaries OF states attorneys
House btts refe1rcf.-Io pay + Andrews; to pay
Calvin blake to pay X Il laugdon both TO the com
on claims Changing the name Of the Green mountain
liberal institute Incorporating the Lawrence hotel
Providing for the safe Keeping Of the county records n
the county uf Orange; 10 the general com. lucOrpOra
ing the rashurgh aqueduct co manufactures.
In alteration nf ch no s, To the com on finance,
House proposals Of amendment to bill relating to the
homestead were agreed TO-
The hN eNemptinB the capital stock Of resident
stockholders from taxation cases. was taken mp
and its engTossment and third reading refused.
The bill establishing the standard weight Of hushe
q herd'gss or timothy seed at IS pounds up
Tho adoption Of the amendment proposed by Senator
Judevne, making the said weight 90 pounds favor
ed by Senators Hall and Judeyiue and opposed by SEN
ators Fish. Ola, Adrch Wheeler, Brock aud others
AfeI an animated debate the amendment was rejected
and the engrossment and third reading ordered. Adj
HOUSE.
Prayer by Rev f Brown.
Leave Of abscuoe granted to Mr. Woodbury. Of
Springfield on and after Saturday next.
Iheresnuton limiting debate was taken up. Mr. Hak-
Teton Of Essex moved to amend by fixing the limit for
speeches at ten minutes, without the unanimous consent
Of the House
The motion was opposed by Messrs Stewart of
Bristol aud Seymour Of Nergennes. The motion 10 A.
mend was lost Mr. Pnpry Of Weathersfeld moved to
strike out the word unanimous" which agreed TO-
Mr. Green Of Manchester opposed the resolution, and
Mr. Myers Of Jamaica supp0rtedit and 1t adopted
with proposal 10 amend
Mr. Geed Of Morrisiown called up the bill to pay An
well Nenner, aud its passage was refused-yeas 81,
nays 66.
BR introduced aud referrcd,-By Mr. Gardner Of Ben
nngton limiting the time within which suits recog-
uiltnccs may be brought TO the the judiciary.
Engyossed nus 10 pay Joseph Andrews, TO incor-
porate the lashurgh Aqueduot Co. providing for the safe
keeping of records in Orange county, pay Robert
Langdun, 10 incorporate the Lawrence Hotel Co. chang
ing the name Of the Green Mountain Liberal Institute
pay Chvin Blake; seyerallY passed To annex part 0f
the town OF Wtnhall to Manchester; ordered 20 lie.
The bill repeating the statute which provides lr the
grant Of money TO county agricultural societies taken
up
Mr. Whitney Of franklin said he had looked up the
tscs " the State since these grants made and had
discovered that some sections had greatly improved In
their valuation. lie referred especially 10 Addison coun-
uafN Tho .
sheep. He attributed this improvements and this aug
mentod value of property TO the interest that had been
awakened by this stimulus He believed that money
that had been paid of the treasury Tor the prom on
Of domestic interests had paid large and valu-
able returns, Although the sum that was paid was a
these agricultural enterprises II was true that all por-
tons Of the State had been benefited in equal de-
gree but this for Withdrawing This protect
ing assistance from ALL Ia all the investigations Of The
committee on agriculture IL had appeared that h the
general opinion that would be preldica 10 the farming
Interests " the state 10 withhold the little that IL
now appropriated lie enlarged ON the Importance of
these interests "a, beg the bas, Of all our prosperity
aud claimed that was the true policy N the State 10 os
ter them aud encourage all Improvements possible He
adyerted 10 the concession that the farmers had made in
refusing 20 establish agricultural bureau, aud urged
them not 10 resign this small pttancc that was now af
f0rded the farmers Of the State and their interests
Mr. Lyndc Of Wiamstown doubted the necessity of
continuing these appropriations The fact that other
prosperous societies being formed than the original
which received the grant Indicated that these bOun-
ties might be safely dispensed with. Besides justice re-
qured that division of these several granite should
made among the societies in the several counties De-
cyng that these societies could be- successfully maintain
ed without any aid he he whole Of the opinion
that well that the bill shoud and leave the