Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1860-04-24

me, but think IL was SuNu. -. D., huy,
the interview with you il Georgetown aad mol III "s"""
Wi,ncss-l don't know why. =, in taa
Mr. lird-was there any impr'iIeht j opsM
:. W NJ his coming to your house wh-n he pleased: ~, ,r.i.
Witpcss-No, sir; unless he was III nrorosiiIon Ia
hes. don, know why it WAS he "a"e Wv
NT rirI|will you stale TO the eOur; siethsr OF moi t nr
ever visited your house: lfso, ~h'"' ~" E'0
y W;;,ppssswiie visited NY house scver'l times soes I'll"
Interview NJ W TH ,"M ,.ii Us The purpose Of hi. visits?
W " said he wanted TO purthas" these negroes
sTr l.ird-pid you sell:
witnrss-So sT, not exactly.
NJ IGti--What WAS The result Of the negotiation =,
wi,n,..-IIr did rot comply with my terms. weuid
..rI. IN him II he gave HE VIVA. | thought they We're Norti.
Mr. lii.d-Yuu never have effected Il sale, then:
Wi,nrss-l never closed the sale entirely. -.
Mr. Birds there any understanding Ia reiE'ence w"
Witac>s-There is.
Mr.. Bird-Sta,e what that understanding L..
Witnrss-I told him he might have ;hem for SGve:
Mt. WIlliams-This oler does not include all OF |gIh..
The woman died since She went Ia VeNas-lhe Nv" "''"'e
are now only involved.
Mr.. DGrd-Wil you state any proposition ;ha: lie l'"'e
TO you 10 execute 4 bill Of sale?
W:Incss-l don't think lc ever uiair any PROPOSITION i''
i bill oil sale.
Mr. Bird Vixen you were in George;nwn. we're !'sre 40!
propositions made in writing:
W~itness-None Ill Georgetuwn.
Mr.. Eird-Was there any paper that he tried 10 get 70"
to sign? ~.
ueacalc wap,el TO have an agrccment.
Mr.. Eird-Iuu say there was 10 paper siSned ny w" UT
Eastman in reference 10 these negroes.
HitneSS-Thure WAS no bill OF sale ana no asiE"Ei'"''
Mr.. Lirl-WaS there any writing:
Witncss-!le signed { Bond and sent il 10 me.
MIR. Gird-Was there any body Signed Kan" "@'"'' "a
ham:
Mr.. E;rs-Was that the only writing "si~eeh y"n ana
him
Witness-We never had ANY articles .: agreement anu
10 power OF attorney. lie sen: HE Il note and security !"'
$SG.
Mr.. Biri-when was it lie Visited yon in the county Of
Page, "A. your residence:
W;tnrss-The lrs, time he visited my hcase was last Dc
;oIrr, | b~elieve-Soiur ;imc las; iaN.
MI. l;ird-Did he visit you after that, and II 50, WHEN:
Witness lie came some three or four tine5.
Sir, Bird-S'ate what was the ubiec! OF al! thcse 7isits'
Wituess-l suppose hc CANT 10 See M rs an acGaalh'-
Mr.. Bird-Did he make any propositions regarding tbs
purchase, in these successive r:siis:
Wituess-Ir did | told hi:n that 4 sum offered WAS not
enough. that | wanted 5000 for the slaves.
Mr.. pird-lIow far do yen live from Eastman:
wiinsss-llr lives in Rockingham s"Iie "he:e' aI" ave
Mr.. pird-can you rseclIce' wha, time in October he rnid
the first visit:
Wi;n.ss-l don't rccolitc,-l doni know whether 1t MAS
j., October cXactly-it was some tine last fall.
Mr.. Bird-Can IL lie later?
W;tnts.-lt ,uisl; be !atec-lt was some time hci0:r
Cilristmas-I caa't say What time particularly.
Mr.. Eiri-ls there anything by wnlc!! y"n can hN we ""y
OF the frs: visit?
Wi,urss-Nu, there is nothing.
Sir. Doyle-0V you retaeiahrr III" lime "hsi: 'hiS 'hE'>'i'
garicn was postponed N Noreir'rr;"i:
WitIeSs-I WAS lISre then.
Mr.. Doyle-llow long vas Il before his that lac 'is''e"
Your house: ,
Mr.. Doyle-But he was at your h0rse frequently before
the time Of the examination:
Wituess--No, sir, he was only there about once OF twice
lie was never IN uy house before October or November
last.
MIR. Doyle-Will you state whether il was before ar after
the trial that he first visited your house:
Wi;ncss-It was before the trial that he said he bought
the negroes once, and would buy them again. lie said lac
Enrv nathinY about tie Condition uI TIE negroes uHli !
told him about them.
Mir. uird-Did he say anything ahou, ,he warrant that
was out against him:
Witn.ss-I don't know what time lie was indicted.
Mr., Bird August the ith.
witnrss--l don; think he was there until after tina! time.
SIR. Bird-Did / I tell you, he was Indicted?
Wl,ucss-IIc dill. lie said he knew nothin: about the
condition OF the negroes when lie bought thetn, t"at Ia
would have nothing 10 d" With them II lie inew how t"ey
were circumstanced.
Mr.. Eiri-ie knew then that tile Indictment; Was pre-
sru,ra asains. him when he came 10 your house.
WitnrSs-llis visit To my house must be alter ne was con,
fined in mil. lii fact, l have no recollection oil l. l u!1
not set the date in paper. |, Wa s'"ce lie was arrested,
l know, that he camc down 10 Ivy house.
func Of the counsel here stated that his Arr.s' TOOK
piac. on the 2ls; Of October last
.Nr. rirL-Wha: other time did liz visi. your house:
Wiiu.ss-Abuut some $50 weeks before Chrlsinias.
MIR, Iird-Wa, there Iay paper siyn-d during riiiier of
these visits:
Witness-No, sir.
Nj. rirl-Did you ever SEE hHM oclor" 70" 81" h"' J."
WiIn.ss-Thst wa. II. first time ever saw him.
Mr.. Hirt-l Wutlt YOU 10 IN SIc S.IC VI thbN A''s 'F' J."
Georgetown.
1859.
Mr. D;rd-Wnl you Inform the court whether you ever
wen: 70 Winchester to meet Mr.. Eastman?
witness-I never wen, tlrer. for that purpose.
Mr, Bird-Did you ever receiTr = message IRON eas'naih
10 meet lin II, Winchester:
Witnrss-Ncver!
Mr.. Iird-Or elsewhere:
Witucss-1 think he wrote 20 me 10 incet him at Washing
ton. I.appaharnecE COUNTY. That was soon al'er 1 sa"
him In Georgetown. We could no; agree about the negroes.
and he wrctc 20 me 10 80 10 Washington, but had not Tine
TO 60 there. .
Mr.. Bi.l-Dc you know anything ubou, the removal OF
This r-gro WOMAN ani these children from your laoiher's'
Wi,nr.s-AE nav mother told me is Ill know upon that
subject. | don't know when they left, all | know is from
lrar&ay. ! know they were in her possession, and thought
that she would take care a. iitsia.
Nr. Eir,-wil you state 10 The cou:, in what condition
o. mind your mother WAS ., !ha; timc--~hei!er or not She
wis somewhat IeraDseG:
Wi,n.ss-Shc WAS feeble and old, about that time her
mind was very ~lIshty-I think she might have bceh in her
right mind at tina. tlne, but | cannot say: think her mind
was good In last September a year ago, which was before
the negroes went OF. She has been very feeble Tor several
years.
Witucss-Slie has got no Caiud i; MI now. -.
Mr.. W~iMians-Since then yon say She has los her NINA :
Wi;n"ss-Yes, sir.
Mr.. wiIHans-Yuu say the FRS, time you -a~ Eastman
was abou, i year ago =: Georgetown
Mr.. winiamsETha a, the instance o; v2ar4!, you wen,
TO ticorsctown TO see him.
WltnesS-Ecs, sir.
Mr.. Wii!iiams-Ani he told son shat after he bought the
negroes he heard You had some claim uloG them, that Ia:
asked you what claim you had upon Them:
WltnCsS-Yes, sir, lie said he heard had ! deed o. trust
upon tScn. =,
Mr. Wiliarns-l;e asl=I you to show The deed @! .rms, :
Wi,ncsS-YrS,s sir.
Mr.. WIliams-lI lie said he bought ilen seine time ago,
and hearing that you had II deed Of trus, upon ;h-El, hc
you'd buy your clatra: That was over a gear ago:
Wiincss-GcS, sir.
Mr, Wliiams-Uid lie no; tell you that some persons had
been sent out from llarrisonburr TO Texas claiming that
lie nrrrucs we're penc.,Ie,s negroes before that?
iva 49,. ia III W. on I S1.. him /, wIg uIter his cnlliu.
Texas. lie said he hail been TO Texas AMI hal Jus'
got home. :,
known the condition Of the negroes, hc would have had
nothing 10 do with them!
Witness-He did, sir.
Mr.. Williams-Did he tell you what he paid for ;hcra;
Witness-1 believe he did, but | do MT rec"Ilec' the
amount.
MIR. wiliams-Was it not IL 100?
Wi;ness-I do not remember now what the amount Was
that he said he gave for them.
Mr.. wiiliams-Did he not state, rs one reason why he
could not give you as much as you asked, that he bought
hem orcr before. aud he wanted to buy them again.
Mi:ncss-I thin; he did, aud ! believe he mentioned
something about the cost Of getting taem to Texas ana back
again.
Mr.. Wiliams-Did %r. Allen c. Bryan o. any Of those
other gentlemen want 20 buy these negroes from you:
Witncss-I don; tlin; Mr.. Bryan dill.
Mr.. W~il.iams-Did anybody? Il So, who was he?
Witness Mr.. Mooney wanted 20 buy them; and somcbo.
Is else asked me about them; bu; O.! tonl Snow who IL was.
K may hr Mr.. Bowman.
MIR. Williau,s-Did hr. Mooney state Tor whom ne wanted
10 hwy them?
MIR. ilnIlc-i ioil ! t.ilk tllt - e'licicc.
Mr.. Wlliiams-l think il Is, AMI Tie court will ~ decide.
The court did 90 decide.
WiiiIrSS-l don't think he stated for whom he Wanted 20
Iuy them. | thought he wanted Ia buy ;h:n for himself.
| told him what | would take for thciE.
NJ. wiiliaias-waS not your ether property already AS
10 bc sufficient 10 pay your debts, III that these
negroes would be your property, without any inrumi'rance,
ai,er the death of you. mC!icr:
Witness Certainly, sir.
Alr. WilinmS-You said you thought that Eastliam came
soc you before November court. State whether 1t WAS
not after November court, and after he had hcen To see me,
and whether he did not come from Front Royal;
Witness-I think he came from Front Royal TO my house.
Mr., Williams Il want TO know whether he did not go 10
,ee you for the first time nj your house, after he had been
10 SEE mt?
Witncss-I don't remember whether it WAS the frat time
Or not.
MIR. Mcaitee-l, WAS after he lad a conversation with
Mr.. Williams:
Wi.n.Ss--It WAS.
Mr.. win!ams--Durin: the CONVEX sation with you, did re
not slatr-tor | want the whole conversa,ion-'ha he had
been To advise with ra", and that I had told him that if your
other properly would pay your dents. and he purchased the
negroes from you, that i, would give him u good right 10
them?
Wi,ncss-Ycs, he told mc that, lnt We could not agree
about the price.
3r. WiIliams-I welsh you wcnid state further whether he
did no, state that l advised him, rs these negroes were