Worcester daily spy. [volume] (Worcester [Mass.]) 1850-1888, 1860-12-12

ents. He entertained the opinion that the
southern members would withdraw and let the
republicans submit the proposition, but this
cannot be done. The constitution is sutti'
cient protection to the rights of the south if its
provisions are executed. He had no hope Tor
the country. If its constitution rested on
public opinion, nor can compromises OF the
sN o.d preserve it, il the republicans destroyed
the only bond which can bind the Union. The
subject matter referred TO the committee grew
out Of principles and a system in the northern
states directly at war with the safety and ma
terial interests OF the south, and it does not
belong to this house If any action should
be taken at all, it should originate with the
states.
Mr.. SMITH of Virginia, objected. Mr.; BUR
NETT thought the refusal extraordinary
after they had made up their minds on ma
ture reflection, that justice to Their states re re
quired them to refuse. South Caioliha VIII
remain here only a few days. why, then, re-
fuse to excuse Mr. Boyce
Mr.. SMITH replied that he would not use
force. lie voted against eXcus'ng Hawkins,
indicating his vote on the ground that the
present was big with the affairs OF the repub'
lie. and discussion is unlikely to do good. lie
was surprised and mortified that the repubii-
cans had not participated in discussion,
Mr.. CURTIS, republican, had not refused TO
discuss. He would discuss at proper time.
lie wanted the committee to have Il fair hear,
ing
Mr.. SMITH had expected an opportunity
would have been presented Of exhibiting the
different views OF members as a mesns OF in
fluenciug the committee He was anxious TO
see every state participate in the deliberations
Of the committee.
The house refused to excuse Mr.. Hawkins
So to l0l, Mr.. HAWKINS wished to say,
with all def renee, he will not serve. Mr..
BoYCE asked to be excused.
The house refused to excuse Mr.. Boyce by
a tic vote.
Mr.. MORRILL, of Vermont asked to be ex-
cused from serving on the comm;tee-other
duties fully employing his time.
john CoCHRANE thought the man who vot-
ed against eXCusing others was the last one
VINO should ask excuse.
Mr.. STANTON said Mr.. Morrill, had two col.
leagues, one of whom he desired to have sub
stituted tor himself, not because he wished to
avoid responsibility. Mr. Stanton hoped gem
tlemen ON the other side would give the re-
publicans the privilege of determining when
was the proper time Tor them to participate in
discussion. Premature debate would do no
good. Our course should be to await the ac-
ton of the committee.
Mr.. SMITH OF Virginia remarked that the
silence of the republicans indicated a deter
minatiOn to avail themselves of the power they
have obtained.
Mr.. STANTON resumelMliscusson now. %haR
would do no practical good, but might lead to
recrimination. Therefore he did not desire to
participate in the debate.
Mr.. SMITH replied that if the republicans
met the movement from the democrats, III
spirit of kindness, it would have a pleasant
and agreeable effect on all sides
Mr.. STANTON confessed that lie had little
hope Of a satisfactory result from the commit
tee and did not see in the existing state of
things what is to be remedied by legislation.
The republicans have elected a president, II
thing which has been done every four years,
and he did not see in that anything requiring
legislation 1t amendments 10 the cOnsti-
tuition be proposed, he should be glad to see
them. That is the only efiectual mode Of
doing anything.
Mr.. HoUsToN appealed to Mr., Morrill, to
withdraw his request
Mr.. CoRwIN's resolution was adopted, that
the committee employ a secretary at four dol
lars day, and that the committee have leave
TO sit during the session until they shall report
or be otherwise discharged.
Mr.. SHERMAN reported the diplomatic consul
lar appropriation bill, a~d the Appropriation bill
for the support OF the Indian department, and
also a resolve that the committee Oh Indian at
fairs inquire and report whether any Indian SUI
perintendent or agent tan be dispensed with,
which latter was adopted also the petition Of
Mr. Hyatt for the relief OF the people of Kan
sas.
MIR. BARRETT said the suffering was not as
great as Hyatt represented, Tor the people in
one part of the territory have given Il bail, t
two dollars head. Laughter.
Il H., Il,