The Wyandot pioneer. (Upper Sandusky, Ohio) 1853-1868, 1860-05-17

mem are now TeEaroeu as heiesies VI &"
treason. :,
Now, ask my southern friends, in all
candor-for have not particle OF feel'
ing against a single State or Individual
to weigh these matters with little more
prudence than they are in tho habit ol
doing; and ask my own friends, when
they discuss this question, to discuss it in
q spirit Of kindness and tirmness. But
we have got notion recently that there
is . kind Of pluck necessary to be shown
in every speech, otherwise we would be
regarded as backing down. do not
think lack pluck because ! do not abuse
my neighbor. Would any Of you, in
discussing difficulties with your neighbors.
be Influenced by the slang which ia used
hereby the term "Black Republican,"
II member on either side Of this House
says an imprudent thing, it is seized upon
by another as il it were fundamental
principle of party; and the people are
excited by the belief that something very
serious is approaching.
Now, il we would act like sensible men
and treat the subject with that candor and
care which its importance demands, in
stead Of that shyness which we see man
ifested among members, we would see re-
spectiul greetings when we meet each
other. Let me tell you, my friends
and I have had some experience-th that
the very moment the first blow is struck
for separation. secession, or dissolution,
that very moment will the grandeur and
magni6cence that have been portrayed in
such glittering and glowing terms fade
away, and we will become a ruined, bro
ken down. and destroyed nation.
Mr.. REAGAN. The gentleman from
Ohio has announced that there is no doubt
that the original policy of the Govern
ment was to limit slavery to the States in
which it existed. Now, it has occurred
to me that reference to the dates when
Tennessee and Kentucky were admitted
into the Union, and when Mississippi anil
Louisiana were created Territories. might
perhaps deserve consideration from him
before he comes to the conclusion, which
he seems to have come 10 very sincere.
y.
Mr. BINGHAM. If my colleague will
allow me. ! beg leave to remind the gem
tlemen from Texas
Mr.. CAREY. / will answer the gen
tleman myself Iwant the gentleman to
know that | understand the history OF the
time. The Territory of Kentucky be
longed to the State OF Virginia, and slav-
cry had extended there. II never belong
ed to the United States as Territory
Neither did the others.
MIR. REAGAN. The Northwestern
Territory belonged 10 Virginia also.
Mr.. CAREY. Slavery did not exist
there 10 any extent: and she cedcd the
Territory with the condition that it should
not exist there. ..,.
Mr.. REAGAN, It is true that the
cession Of the Northwest Territory was
a matter Of compact before the formation
Of the present Constitution; and it is also
true that Kentucky was taken from the
territory Of Virginia. and Tennessee from
the Territory Of North Carolina, after the
Constitution was formed, and that slave.
ry was permitted to exist in both but the
point to which my attention was called
by the gentleman's remarks was the state
ment that slavery was regard by the faith
ers as an evil which must be limited to
where it was existing. If that was their
conviction, how was it. when they had
the power 10 exclude slave holding States
from coming into the Union, they admit
ted the States and Kentucky with slaves
ry; and that in providing for the territorial
governments Of Mississippi and Louisiana
and Arkansas and Alabama and Florida
and others. they expressly recognized
slavery in those Territories, and made no
attemptto abridge it in the States where
it existed? ...
Mr.. CAREY. The States from which
these Territories were derived had al.
ready extended slavery over them, and
they would not surrender them unless that
principle was yielded. That / under.
stand to be the political history of that
whole matter. In the case Of Louisiana,
it was treaty stipulation, which could
not be got over. rr
"But, Mr.. Chairman, think 1t is too
late in the day to begin to question the
views which our fathers entertained on
this subject. l have read the views of
all the distinguished men Of the United
States on the subject Of slavery. l have
recently read all that Mr.. Jefferson said
on that subject. have read his cores.
pondence with A, B. and c, not only in
the United States, but in foreign count.
fies. He abhorred slavery, and believed
that it would be abolished by the States
themselves. speak now Of the time Of
the organization Of the Government, and
for many years after it; but admit that
Mr.. Jefferson changed his opinions some
what after the Missouri question had a.
wakened excitement in the country.
Mr.. REAGAN. It has been declared