The Lansing state Republican. [volume] (Lansing, Mich.) 1855-1874, 1860-11-21

who owns large plantation on Cooper River.
ana has 200 slaves. "Why do you wish to 60
out' Lincoln may make good and Just Presi.
dent =" asked.
That Is not the thing" be replied, "most of
Us Planters are deeply in debt; We should not
be If out OF the tnion. We should have a Iii.
rect trade with Europe. We should get better
price Tor our cotton, and ogr goods would cost
US 80 per cen; less than now. Ii cont make
much difference what Lincoln does. We want
TO secede. We must do it now or never. five
don't secede now the political power of the south
is broken. Once New England was a power in
the State. She made Congress pass Just such
laws as She pleased. She has had her Adsmses,
her Websters, aud her Tariffs. What is she
now: Merely New-England. No power; no
one regards her. So 1t vii be with the South
1t We 40 not go out now. | say We, for the South
will 80 with u.s."
- Take another cigar, sir: What reason will
you give: What excuse" said |.
"D-n the reason or excuse. We want 10 20
out. We have Alright 10 go out, and South Car
DINA will 60 out. The United States was moth
ing more than AN agent, appointed by South Car
DINA and the other States, and now the agent
has become master, tyrant, and dictato, 10 th.
principals. This Stale won't stand it,"
81 do hot see clearly how YOU make that out
| am dull, perhaps. VIII YOU inform me in this
regard"
Certainly. As you are going into Greenville
District, III give you my ideas aud you will find
them extensively held. As long ago as the for
nation and the adoption Of the Constitution
thirteen States united and formed Constitution;
and then they appointed al agent To attend 10
the extrdneoaS matter, and to manage the prop.
erty or territory that belonged to ALL These
States acted in the premises as States and not "a
individuals: and Vet il was simple as the sct
OF thirteen individuals. Their motive tor form
Ing the General Cnton Was that each might b.
benefited. The Constitution was adopted
South Carolina was in the boat She IS not a
part of the Southern section-the minor section
Of the Union. We hold to the Consttu ution, and
are willing TO abide by it, provisions, fairly and
justly Interpreted. This, sir. you viii find the
prevailing sentiment among all the intelligent
people you will meet with in this State. We
don't regard the Fedora, Union, or General Col.
ernment"-
National you mean" interrupted
No, sir, Ill be id if mean NATIONAL
Nation and National are words no. used in the
South, and they were never used by the trainers
of the Constitution or by Gen. Washington in
any OF his papers. mean the Federal Govern
ment, and say il is a mere dgent. Congress is
only the maker OF laws Ii ia not the interpre.
tef oi tic NoiistitutioH Ihc CONSTITUTION ~ SUI
preme and above Congress, for it is the bond Of
Union--creal.d and made for the protection of
| the MINOR States, more than for the major. Ma
jorites can protect themselves and need no Con-
stitu;ion. This solemn compact, made by the
Is States as States, has been repeatedly violated
! at the expense of the southern States. Con-
gress, under the Constitution has no right TO
pass law which affects the interest of any
State, or majority Of the States at the expense
OF any State or of = majerity Of States"
''Do you think Charleston will be greatly ben
Gifted by secession." asked
Yes, because in ease OF separation, this city
would evidently become one of the great CON-
meIcial cities Of the South. Ii has but one in
convenience. The draft of water on the Bar is
| about Is feet, and the Bar is but l0 miles from
the city. Cast your eye on that map land here
he pointed out to NE a map OF the United Statesl
and see what an immensc region viii receive its
| supplies from Charleston, and forward its pro-
duce TO the same point Produce can now he
sent from the interior Of 7 nnessee tn this citv
| cheaper than to New OTlra..s or New-YMk. As
soon as separation takes place We shall run tho
steamers that ply between New York and Charles
| ton, between the latter city aud England, touch.
! ing at the Azores. Ii would pay better than at
the North. Even as i; is letters from England
are received in the West Indies sooner than by
the West India" line Of steamers"
This ended the conversation, and send il to
you a. correctly illustrating the opinions prevail
ing in this city with regard TO the great question
-dsunion.