, 1860-12-13
hr could to ward of suspicion from the par

C3oss-enan.;ned 6v u. lte4iia<r.-1 was pre-
viousl5 asked " Mr. Tracy to go to Mr. Judd's
| Office; there the arrangements we're made to
20 to this room, and hear the interview with
Chadwick: Mr. judd and Mr.. Tracy were
taere' e. :. Bradley vas not there: met
my understanding was was to 70 and listen
to conversation between c, P. Bradley and
some one else; should not have gone to aid
aAy llan Of Bradley to victimize any Que;
conceived It my duty to go after the reprcsen-
ta:lsns nnd assn1auee that pntlie interest
t:ea1Anded Il; should hase yone alone; rc-
lied upon it they would not lead me- into j ro-
sltion unworthy ofa man Of honor At the
| room, all but Nr. Tracy tonk possession Of a
| hole for observation The interview was de-
tailtd with little or no variation.
To Nr. Enoz-seas there only Al one meet
ln@i be said the Interest against the bridge
extended from New OEleaus to St. Paul
bMiam n EFaa'ty. called by tho PFoseeu--
| tf0u. bling duly sworn. Wis examined In chief
by Mt. Cook and scet':!ad III follows:
Qne+.-What Is ytcr oc .upat.on, Mr.. Bradley:
! the Sorticfn TistFet cf Illinois. ~ ''A
Q!tss.-How long have you occupied that
| position?
Aa.-Flye years the t.erty-s.cond Of last
| March.
Q4s-Wcrc ron present at an interview
| which has been spoken OF between Mr. Chad
! HiCh AAl 0lsAHItft IL DQHc. eus SL1lG
| what tuok p1acc as near ~ you can.
-1n&-1 WIS present; it was Thursday the 18th OF
June. cannot undertake O rive the language
that heard, nor to uaFratc it in the precise or
| der in which 1t occurred, for made no minute
| Of 1t ut oil, and speak now merely from my
! recollection Mr. Frank Whitney WAS in the
| room a. las been described here, with Will
| lows opening oil the West. when
Mg. CooK YOU mtan Whitney Frank!
HIntsx-Yes. Sir: mean Whitney Frank.
have very little acquaintance with him, al
| though hare seen lin seycrat times os c wit
we'll Mr.. Gayc, Mr. Tracy and III. Hitt. were
III Little ROOM adjoining, some few minutes
| before Mr.. Chadwick and Mr.. Bradley made
! their appearance; Mr. Frank Wis in III" rnon
when We went there. think, that Is, not in tie
| room We were in, hut in the west ronm when
thty entered Mr. Bradley introduced Mr. Chad
| wick to Mr. Frank, and said this was the man,
| or this Was his mani anl not positive which ;
| after formal Introduction, he handed little
] IaIer to Mr. Frank, which Mr. F1aak read,
hrlieve-or pretended tn read, at least: Mr.
| Frank said that It was all satistactory-that it
was all right; / think the paper was handed
before they we're NIL fairly seated around the
| tablc; there was little table Ir.awn near the
centre of the room; MF. Chadwick sat fac!ng
| tue position we occupied; Mir. Bradlcs's back
| was towards Us, as was Mr. Franks also.
Q-{prasentipS paper to the witness).
etaIa Nv" Wv 1es@sk sAo"A eoilpale2 "AA
| 1lIat:
Al should think probably thzt rss the
| document, or the letter; I Put no mark upon
| ii to identify it; wcu: into the front room
| soon a:tss Mr. Chadwick and Mr. Frank had
| left, and this was shown 10 Me by Nr. Brad
| ley US the letter Of introduction; from my rs-
| collection I should th:Il this was the same
paper; read it at The time, fe-ollset: !
-Iloula think very likely it wac thc -arrr ra-
,er, though could not Identify It. % there il
t no mark upon it; il Is dated Richmond House,
| June IA, with the Richmond House picture On
| the corner; rccollsctit was dated Ii: dcE We
| were there.
Q-Can youproceed with the conversation?
al cannot repeat al that was said, nor
give it in the precise order In which it was spo
| Hvn ; the lrst words rccollect distinctly;
| henrd Alr. Bradley, but do not rrcollect what
he was talking neou!; but Mr.. Bradley was
| talking most Of the titue: his back was to-
wards me: but the first thing ,!,at attracted
my attention particularly, was something sai:
IL: lit. Frank; it wa ID connection with his
hayin:, visited Rock Island aud Examined the
bridge; hc stated that onc Ut the watcAmeu OIL
| the bridge
W. Nc.A11srER.-1Tas this Bradley stated
thlss
| M1TxEss.-1 think Mr. Frank: don't know
hut Bradley had stated 1t first, sor Br,dlc, was
sr,king mot Of tie time; he s1ss talking Ill
the time when the Others were not; but AE.
Frank epo1: Of the watchmen on the bridge,
md alluded, or s:iit tint one If then, was ol'-
Grating with them, or undcts:u."l thetn and
70 o;erated with ll,em; rant tell yc:. the
| precise language. hut that wa; the thought
that I received at tile time, that unc of the
watchmcn tt. :h= bridge w:,s in their Interest.
Yes; that was tho ;3t->; am not sure that
VITA th: expression; / t.,inf: Ec stated his Io-
s!tlon on the tridye; Mr. CHADWICK thought
lie was wrong in his expression rs to bis Ios'-
| $t, I~.f f,,%L hM
very positive, hcc.usc IL: had just come
from the bridge aud knew his position on the
bridge, and Mi. Chadwick almost Immediately
then took out bis pencil; there WIS piece Of
paper on the table, dca he commenced making
! draft Of the bridge, to exl'l.iu. ~ be Thought.
the position on The lri,g ~; that di,gra:. 1
think lie WAS marking 1T for full ten minutes,
| and vet the co!vcr sa!i0n VAS going on all the
lime; cuu1d NJ, gee the di'Sranl or all Of it :;
Bradley llesh WAS between MY print Of view
and lie paper; Chadwick was writing with
his right hand on the table; Bradley was in
about that position, il was = small table; he
was looking this way, and his bead was be-
TWEEN me and the lurer verr' frequently; he
waa figuring on ffle diagram, aud should think
tur overten or fifteen minutes, or for full half
;!,c time he was in tAc rocu.; while he WIS
making tho diagram Of the bridge hr stated
material had bceu put upon the bridge,
- the tur1ner attempt, as he supposed; he
stated that he knew uothiu.. about the ciEcum'
stances of that attempt until after it was rlade;
tut after 1t was made the fact was aiyulgtd tt
| him, and he said it was DEFEATED because those
attempting to destroy it wesc frightened By
the watchinan. aud they let themselves dowr
by graphing hook t.:at was fastened to III.
| bridge and rope that was nt the end OF it, ani
hc said, 1 think, that the watthman supposed
1t Was somebody abort there In ] buar; Gu
not positive about that. ba: AMI very positir'
in that way, by the gra: p in; Iron aud the rope
..snl they went oil; tuink, in that sAi1c CON
nection, also, he stated that very sooE aftc
ihlt attempt, he and others, TO put the officer
on :: false scent, reported that probably tn
bridge company had done it oereatc ~ 1nrathy
aud to pretend that there was I'LL attempt II
burn it le also said that Pinkcrtun and his tle
trctiycs had been led upon the samc cent O.
tlles same track hc said as one iuraus lc tool
II prevent any discovery, bc knew or WAS tolt
who made this graphing Iron; he laid b.
went to the blacksmith auu .ayc him fifty do!
lars to deny that he knew anything 1t it b
slated that the blacksmith w:.;; afterwards en-
luired Of by one Of the detectives ! think b,
one Of Iinkc7ton's detectives he said, and iha
blacksmith knew nothing about It; the1
, ! tt,ctc was good deal of conversation in reia
! latiou to the pay; to the money, which ha
!: wi.ne>sce. Bradley thought be ought to hay
At Its 1850; be diInot think thai they cou!'
, ret al cgwtll. IS fhan $iUNu, tu. tbey ou.ht t.
,, Lave Il least 1850. lie elid it would tax
several hundred dollars to G.; the 1nau out G
! the way whonl hc had secured in his intercs
had been knocked OF, or they would II
' ,.,rt lsat he had been murdered Q
drowned. They wished to pay tten
: him libera1ly aad get him out Of the WAY t.
= | Pixies Peak, or some other out-ot-thc-wa
: | place; Pixies Peak WIS mentioned; Chadwic
E stated thu. he thought $3.50 was ALREADY 81
:, cured, aud he thought t4rrc WAS no difficult
II in ling any amount that WIS necessary
, Bradley raid they wonId nut r.luirr a1i OF
:. in advance, or all Of it raid down; my reco
/, Lection is that they could MT ST on with It's
: than = thousand dollars, b1: b. ou.ht to hay
i. $780, 0. wanted 81, SEQ; may nut have thi
). in tuc precise order in which II occurred, ht
Il Frank inquired particularly about the re'i'
= ,Ility Of the 1nan that be had Interested In Ii
!, matter at Rock I.laad. and Chadwick assure
!, him that he was reliable; he said he WIS ma
i who lad formerly bern III business ut Rec
j. 1elsn1 who had Il brother now upon the rive
;. | acting IS pilot, sud thlt Frank nc",. have Z
r | fears about him; he was perfectly sr.:able;
= did mol mention any name; there ~as sen
X conversation between them Is to !::- lest tin
:, to do ito destroy the hsi1:" l:sadlcy at
- Chadwick both spoke Of the stnt- IL the mon
>. lime in about L week from hat time, II
r moon would be very small and 1t would
4 down about or o'clock.
}; Que.-Was anything said about parties
= te.cstedy
l. 4nk-Ycs, sir.
" Uac4-Nhat Was it?
d .ia4-Tlat last remark o: III. Gage WAS &
II | rect; II vns in answer to III Inquiry by Fran
ID Frank said hc did not want to make hins'
:; liable for peniteutialy o.Irnse without he h
= a cure thil,s-a certainty; Chadwick assur
ii him tho interest WIS 20 1azEe against +
Il bridge, extending from New Orleans to
le Paul. that II By any possibility they were diset