The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-27

resvy delegates from that eate and the yssoluon
n he snecs that member a. he New York delegation
Admitted on ne hcor % pe,1nssd 70 psr Spss sas
settlec.1
Mr. hccccK, Of Ohio, presented tho following resolu
Received That committee Of one frsn each State b.
sh ced by the delegations thereof 70 report permanent
sneers for the CohvsnssoD.
Mr.. FRHEn, Of vuapa-Now, propose 70 amend that
reto'uson ] Lave the right 70 Offer an amendmeny,
suppose
The tRhsiDANr pro tm-lt rs, the amendment be ger
Mr.. FrBsR-I went 10 amend by substu,,pe the follow
ing -"Wbertss, h spIesrs--"
The PREsnsNr pro tm tpe'emptorily) The Chair has
decided the Reptewsns proposition TO out Of order.
Mr. BAEKspAls, Of Mse,srppl-l offer The 10 lowing a.
an 70 the resolution proposed by the gentle
Fesovsd That Committee on Credentials be appointed
by the delegations respectively, composed of
from each State In which there no disputed deegs
ton who're duty shsll be 70 report 70 he Convention
the delegates who entitled seats upon this floor
M ECnARDsOs, 81 nEnos-Ar President, bspc my
sso HON ONO vi, aoo pt inc pf"poenc1 'os gentle
plsuse.) There 10 contest In the State from which
come. want this Convention and the country to see
upon what u 10 based. want TO show you gentlemen,
the mater as that they bring hero TO make contest
Of. (Appauss) However humihsting II may be - me
sea, here wnh rec,uNs Of yesterday in the democratic
patty, am wNln. that you shall decide the question: ano
that is TO pass upon IT, do NOT know how mas Do 10
rspect 70 other ssates but 20 far Illinois
IrlyOtOuo .c0uto
presented before any BODY In the world. Cloud ap
pAuse>
M. CocmAsr, of New York, obtained the floor.
! Mr.. LAWRENCE ot Louieians--I rise TO Q point Of
order Ny po Of order u, that gentleman from the
STATE Of New York has yet been aomit,ed delegate
sS. MS s:Or ana no gentleman from that
! Mr. CocnnAsx-Wn the gentleman plesse to state hs
point Of order such audible that We from New
York can hear and understand H.
Mr. LAwRKSC1-- ia that delegation from the State
New York has yet been admitted into ibis ,veuton
that until that question settled New York has no rsh,
to speak in tbs Convention (Appause.)
MI CcCnRAhEI VIII PROFOUND this question to the gen
temen BY what right does he hold his seat upon this
floor?
Mr.. LAwxrScs-As Of the delegates from the State
Of Louisiana, whose teats are unccpiested
Ar CocHR1NE-A And delegates from the State Of New
York by the same right aid NO other, we hold seats
Mr. LAwR,Scx-n is well known that there arc two sets
Of delegates from tho State OF New York. both equally
respectable, ana entitled TO the attention OF the CoGven
ton.
The President pro xm-The Chair rules all this discus
sion oot OF order II 's matter for the Convention 70
deter mine who the regular delegates We
Orgsnized body-a Convention This rs not the time
when can be leshimately decided. There propcs
ton pending TO appoint Committee Credentials
ana they will report uron these matters.
Nr. BARKy Of BstMsippi-I svggst 10 the gentlemen
that We cannot proceed until we know who are the
bere.
PRESIDENT protein Chair has just decided that ques
ton.
Hr BARRY--I mako ,be suggestion in this connection
that We have the COMMITTEE Credentials fret, the
Convention VIII not DO sbie TO organize until that Com
mtiee reports
M JOHN CocnRAsx, Of New York-The floor has been
assigned 70 ne, and unless the gentleman rses point
OF orceY, II certainly cannot be taken from mo
Mr. BaRRY--I old not know that the gentleman from
New York bad the floor thought be bad abandoned
cssn. , " not p, was taken from mr.
plessed 70 hear the ks which fell from my friend
from giros ar M:hartson), IN respect to the amend
amendment meets the unqualified and unanimous app,o
baton Of the delegation from Nv York. Great ap.
The regular rtsndng or,hodo. organization Of bal
STATE. But, maintaining that poeiton, we are
rot actnsted by such folly as 70 suppose tia
we may take, and whether these gentlemen come
with claims Of greater or les magnitude in consde
s,sLs should De heard content that they shat
be heard We Of New York have never been educated
III that fcboo Of ethics or politics vhch would insst
should be the JUDGES OF their Sir tie
position Was made by this Convention tina. Of New
York should cit u adjudication upon the matter in
rove,s y in bA. State to which parties, should
moot respectfully decline it, We would decline T. 10
place clothed with tie robes Of democratic regu
laity and wshrg 10 submit ourselves 10 the
our coadjutors. hope that the amendment will pre-
vail.
Mr.. HAMILTON, OF Narylsni-I DEERE TO ask the gentle
man who offers this amendment, whether be proposes to
exclude etacs from positions In this Convention, where
there s only single contested scat? (Cries Of "Oh,
Mr.. HxnfoN-An right
Mr. PuGH OF Ohio-I not wish TO prolopx this Dis
cusscn but let the satea which disputed be named
In the reGolutcn Let The gentleman from Mississippi
in his retouton the sstes which he proposes 70
exclude.
proposed By The gentleman from Mississippi, with The
understanding that is to extend simply to the delexs
hons which are CONTESTED entirely but this language
tende to any State IN which there contest Of even
single seat II the gentleman will SO qualify as TO ap
ply merely to the contest Of entire delegation there
cratic Conventions 70 exclude from lie Committee on Gre
dsntals the delegation from the State upon which such
contest arieee, and We ak for nothing elee here
MT BARRY OF Mssssippil the resoiusion as proposed
now should be adopted there can he no organ,on nn
ems VIII be- better that the COMMITTEES on orssn
zson should be hrst appointed to consist OF from
each state AZ proposed and when the Convention 10 or
esnized then We can appoiDt Committee on Gre.
tentae Aute proceeding in unorgauized
condition 10 act what will be the vital question OF the
Convention ext TO the question Of platform and the Qdcs
Sr. CLARK. Of g,sou,i obtained the floor and called
nr. pAsKspsIs Of Mississppi Il have modified my
am endme ut 90 to read as follows
R.poyed That mittee Of ore from each State be
sei ced bg the respective delegations except New
and IDnes whose duty Il shs be to select permanent
ofcsIs for the organization Of this body.
w,l state the Convention that shs amend ment o.
tered consultation with gentlemen nHresteo Ia 'e
Mr.. pAnrws, of Mississ,pp-I deshe to offer an sdd
WI" Gr. CLARK. = sssou,i-I claim The floor.
Mr. .-.EwsL- The Chair recognized -se
point Of submit the amendment nosger-
Mr.. CLARK OF ussouri-I agree With tn, gentleman |
from New that the substitute s not german TO the
rtsoIuop and that It 10 of order. Sir the object OF
me resolution offered by the gentleman fon Ohio (Ar
NcC1ck) TO effect permanent organisation OF this
bcdy We meet delegates from the several States
snd i,no acie every gentleman who received ticket
from the National Executive Com nttee appointed by the
Cdpys pton Ut Cincinnati is delegate(appause)- land
20 State ought be excluded from the Committee on Or
ganzatop because ths seats Of It's delegation con
tested Sir, Committee on Cred. will be raised for
The very purposc Of reporting the Convention who have
right 10 seats here and attempt TO settle
such questions in present partially organized eate
csn Only throw into disorder and produce confusion
and civRnn Sir should treat every gentleman who
bae beer admitted upon the floor delegate, until the
contrary appears hope, therefore, that the original
solution Will be adopted, and upon 1t demand The pre-
vous question. (Applause)
The PRESIDENT pro temThe Chair desires TO ask or h
own inio NATION whether the gentleman from Ohio (Nr
Hcoook) accepted tho proposition OF The gentleman from
Mississippi (Ar. Barry)s
NJ MC{o OE--Td accent his amendment IN pAYt. i