The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-01-11

everywhere between Mason and Dxons line south 10 the
Il encd 10 and shai reosys ali the ruarsptsss and bs
secured to s by all tho remedies which regulate
all other kinds Of personal property Swhasoever mold
nizance Of this and refuse 10 give prompt romedi
cases OF aggression would become the imperative duty
Of Congress to secure this description Of property by
~ Mr.: soMEns lrep) Of Ao-w0uld you recognise the
the gentleman would discuss this question OF the merits
or dement's Of the Cincinnati platform, he must come
south 70 me, or will go North 70 him
Mr.. STANTON, (rep.) OF Ohio-What protection would
you give we went South to discuss this questions Wal
Will YOU come to my district where you will need no
Mr.. GAK1RNi-I would give you protection, but would
have You be careful 70 be on your good behavior how
Mr.. sSAS1ox~f would ask no guarantee from you.
Mr.: GARrR.lL-! crave no pledge from you, but de-
mand my rights Of justice and equality.
sition was you csme 10 my district without pledge
Mr. GARREII-we are not wanting in courtesy in the
South, as you will ind II you come
Mr. srAsros-what read in the papers OF doings in
the South indicates something worse than dscoutesy
Mr. GARiRxlI-so long as incendiary doctrines are es
poused and 80 long The slaves Of the South melted
resurrection to murder end rape you may expect 70
read Of such doipgs When you TO you Must not
disturb peace Interfere With our social relations
ask you gentlemen the other side, what customs
what privileges what immunes, what social relations
yourN Not one. AK you when did Southern men, or
any number Of Southern men, combine for the purpose
tons North myself viii answer for tho question moods
no Response from you aud again say, never We dis
turb not your rights Of property. We leave Thorn 70 be
settled py yourselves according 70 your own notions and
Mr. HAsxIS, a. L. dem.) Of N. Y.-rhe gentleman said
he was opposed the republican doctrine by
Congress oppose the extension OF slavery uto the Ter
ritoks would now ask the gentleman r. supposing the
Legislature Of Kansas in its Territorial state should do
SffVyo
ry during its Territorial existence, whether he and the
people the South would look upon that as an infringe
them in seeding from the Unions
Mr. GARmxlI-Do understand that the gentleman ha
become the champion Of tho black republican principles
Mr. HAsKN-I am not the exponent OF the republican
party, but the contrary, differ with them much
do with thOse who entertain the tangled doctrine Of
interference 10 protect slavery In the Terri
tories.
Mr. GAKrnEL III my friend wants to know what my
own opinion Is the question OF squatter popular
sovereignty will tell him In few words So far my
opinion goes the people Of Territory have no right by
O:es Of legislation deprive Of my slave property in
that Terroryhat TO power short Of State sovereignty
can despoi me Of that property in any Of the Territories
Of the Union.
Mr. HAss wished to know If that is to be inserted as
new plank at the Charleston ConvenopS
Mr GARTRHIL replied II you wan. to know what wen
do you make arrangements be present there
provided you come as democrat, but II you
republican d we VIII simply rule you out (Laaghel)
was unfair He had said he agreed with neither the
pubcar nor Southern men as to the prevention pro-
lection OF slavery In the Territories He wanted know
Mr. Gartfe did not vote for Maynard and Boeler for
Speaker?
Me- GAR1REII replied he did He wanted no better evil
dence of Mr. Haskns repubcanism than that he voted
for Mr. Sherman.
Mr. HAsKIN said if voting for Mr. Sherman made him
republican, on the sams principle Mr. Garrel must be
American
Mr. GAKrElI replied that as that opinion bad already
been exploded was not necessary to waste the time Of
tkA in fuvfh cr t{u1au
Of any party, explained how it that man voting for
Mr. ADRIAN, "a. l. den) Of n j., explaining said that
the Northern democracy were true to the Union and
would not permit to be dissolved republican
elected Presisent according 10 the forms Of the consu
ton.
vote for the admission Of Kansas Notwithstanding the
English bilR
Mr. GARTRxI-That is sss..7-s. The record Of my posi-
ton shall be fully known some other time He main
tanned that the States have right retire peaceaby
from the Union any time without condition restriction.
There further interruption on the part Of Mr.
Haskin and Mr. Keitt and Mr. Gartre saying he would
not again submit to be interrupted proceeded ask you
gentlemen Of the North, would remain quiet and pas
sve your rights were assaied the rights Of the peo
pie OF the South have been assaed You would
not will not refer to the doctrines nculcated by Gid
ists viii take the declaration Of Northern men Who
from their position here, may safely be assumed to be the
opponents Of republican principles and by these living
these assaults had continued we could not be
expected 70 remain quiet. In 1s4s the celebrated
Buffalo Convention was held, convention which he was
gratcd TO hear Mr. Cochrane rcpudate upon that floor
few days ago, and at which resolutions passed to
the effect that the extension Of slavery into the Territories
should be prohibited by act Of Congress It was further
resolved that accepting the issue that the slave power
forced upon Them their final determination was that
there should slave States more slave
Territories So far back 1913 the abotonists or tina.
party TO whom republican friends say they do
bcopg passed these resolutions and that party occupied
position occupied BY the Republican Convention Of
MIR. HAsKIN-Iisten to me.
Mr.. GAKKEII-This declaration of hostility to the
stuonal rights Of the people rearmcd at the
Presidential election In 1852 they said tina. slavery
sin against Cod and that the Fugitive Slav.
pugnant TO the constitution and the principles Of
law to the spirit OF Christianity and to the sentiments of
tho civilized world and there resolution passed de-
handing lis final repeal That the position of the
abolionists of the North in 1852 and will show that
the position of the republican party at the present day
r STAyToSI resisted TO the utmost of my power and
nine out Of every ten OF the people Of the free States voted
ag INST IL.
Mr. GARrRKL was gratifed to hear that but would ask
If the Ohio Convention did not endorse similar seutiments7
Mr. STANTON would not attempt to ans wer that in one
or two words.
Mr. GARrRg1I-That was the position taken by aboli.
tonists and unless the democratic party triumph these
are the positions they will be driven back to defend.
tho people OF the North desire to have slavery they could
If they do not want it, that is matter for themselves,
not We Of the South do want it, and IL II is denied 10
us, IL you dare assai institution, you wantony
invade peace, and will resist such Interference
and such invasion at every hazard. What does your
great leader say-he who the head and front Of
your party man OF great intellect, man whose ability
is eqnaed only by his hostility to the constitution Of the
counry-what does be say The great leader Of the
publican party tells the Northern in public
speech that slavery must be abolished and says further,
on, Northern men, and l, must do it, Abolished whsreS
Abolish 1t in the Territories? No. does exist there.
But abolish it in the States where it does exst-that
what he means and John Brown was he first Who inau
eurated the policy. What does Governor Dennison, of
Ohio leader OF the republican party, say In his
sage9 That he will not let any fugitive slave be arrested
in his State and he cannot prevent it In any other way
he WILL Commander in Chief Of the military, employ
them 10 that end, go help him God
Mr. STANTON denied that Governor Dennison declared
such ntnent in his message, and though had been
attributed to him, Governor Dennison the stump
peaiedIy and emphaiicaly rerudiaied it,
Mr.. GABRIEL was glad 10 have 1t contradicted.
Mr. Hill, e. opp Of Georgia, asked the gentleman
the republican Side OF the house. supposing Governor
Dcnnison had made the remarks imputed to him, would
be have been elected by the people Of Ohio2
Mr. SrASToS-It would have cost thousands Of votes.
In my district he would not have received five hundred
votes IL he known TO have uttered such sentiment
Mr.. GARrRnL-I am glad TO hear that also, but think
it win not be denied that Governor Dennson opposed to
the execution Of the Fugitive Slave law.
Mr. SrASToy-e repeatedly declared that there should