The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-19

gvn. DIN Ave construction, ~ rg-ess, Of the
Kansas and Sbaka nd sost TO ssr IS knew that
portion r. he Nau,s To BIZ ny who constitution
was to BE- submit tod the peeps va pAysed wilhoat
tpg 10 ct er bou'e Orgress do u gay
tAi 'h, Minnesota bill isei rad assed without dis
sesIg 70. but tina. the porter Of y, Ter koe~,
nsd passed without dissenting vote There
universal Concurrence in tsose views with al those
gentlemen epreseaDg the Pres VINO cooversed With
me 300 III sobe T. snd ny the Pre- dem himself, very
ittu,ty and unequ vocaly exp essed After this ssseni
thur sivsr bv the Prtsdeos ~ views Mr. Buchanan
vsned sr. Waller, md IN Jud. D,rglas cid aso,
ahouh am Of abs lutely certain OF that know tha
sr. Bucf anan did, the object being 70 induce her
10 wanaTaw her opposhoa to my going was
prefent at this interview between her and
Mr.. BuchaDsn, In which the argument pressed
by him tbat there peculiar reasons Why was
the person Who msre tpsn al others, AZ ne was gooi
enough 81, gbt perhaps the country by pre-
venting s iperding revolution and securing the peace
able " tha. Question, and thss there were pa
,rio'ic rafous why ought & 60 long conversation
fnsued the result Of all Of which that my wife did
| consent First my osIuctons were drawn out,
| which, according 10 my Judgment fully confirmed
| he doctrine Of the subm' Of the consultation
| 10 the vote Of the people, and the President
siuseN regarded them. toen about to draw up
my sagura address, II was deemed important that
should presen, that address before the meetiog Of the
topeka legislature with the view prevent TINS revclu
topary action their part, which action would IN
ooub!sdly brought about collision by force for
there could have been two governments In actual
operation In Kansas ct the time, the one q
state government with State legislature
a state Governor and State Justices; ant
the other Territorial government with Territorial
legislature snd Territorial Governor. IL was, there
f,re deemed important that this address should be pub
lsned before tie meeting Of The IegslAsure-tae so
called Topeka Legislature. prepared that address; and
Mr.. Buchanan, by appointment, met me ct my house,
where he epen many hours, which devoted 10 that
subject That address not then complete, except thar
portion that related 70 the question Of the constitution
ben0 submitted to the vote Of the people, and what
ssid the subject Of slavery in Kaneas What sa,a
the snbect Of submitting the constitution to the vote Of
The people Mr.. Buchanan fully approved. Az regards
What said the subject CT slavery in Kansas he rug
gssied slight modification which, with some little
ration from the words be suggested, but emoodyins
substantially the ideas, adopted by That
modification suggested by Mr. Buchanan applied to onlya
single sentence published that address the 9th OF
May, 1857, at Lecompton, Kansas The Topeka Legtsls
tuYe, think, 70 about days afterwards
according my best rscOilscton-I know was soma
time afterwards. The address, from any particular
merit possessed but from the OCCASION
produced very deep impression upon the popular mind
in Kansas, and undoubtedly with my Subsequent efforts
At Topeka, 1t did suspend the putting into
actual operation OF the Topeka State Government and did
prevent . disastrous revolution and civil war, which
would undoubtedly have extended the bordering
Iowa and Missouri, and which would have extended
throughout the Union for according the returns which
Y ~rA Hnsw IN
mept, according 10 my BEST recollection the Topeka
party bad eight thousand troops, armed and drilled
and disciplined, determined upon sustaining that
government a. believe. The references 70 this You
will find In my various communications submitted 10
the government This inaugural address Of nine was
transmitted think very early In June to the Secretary
OF State the official organ Of communication aud Its
cept was acknowledged sometime in june think, and
Of the government not only the President but all
the Cabinet before the my views upon subsc
No dissent WAS expressed, which, from the re.
peatee communications that passed between of course
regarded - . distinct and continuous approval The
organ Of the government. here, the Unon Continued,
til think ne late In the fall In various editorials
TO sustain my In advocating the submssoa the
constitution to the vote Of the people. When first ar
rived every effort make Kansas slsve State
WAS apparently entirely abandoned It was universally
COZ ceded that it could be made slave State by
vote OF tho PEOPLE, which thought the only way u
which could be properly made either State or
free state being my opinion, which have always
ertsineo that when people come TO frame State con-
slitunon they have q right 10 determine that and ali
other questions apperainng TO their local government
for Themselves. do not know the period during
my whole life, commencing with the agitation
Of the Missouri compromise, thai I have failed to
advocate doctrine. Il Ia due to iraukoess and
dor for say, though do not desire {, introduce
politics that certainly very anxious make Kaus,s
a democratic State, and the only plan 70 accomplish
was W unite the fes State democrats with the pro-
slavery party, and all those whom regarded
sentative men, against the violent portion Of the
republicans But at the same time determined thA,
I would use no improper to accomplish ths
object but that would do it, did II q. sl boldly aud
openly, by legitimate argument addressed TO the peo
in written addresses and in very numerous addresses
| upon the stump. And believe that the object would
undoubtedly have been accomplished If had not been
arrested in that course and that Kansas upqaes
tionably have been democratic State thought too
| that the constitution was not submitted to
| the people, but was attempted to be forced
| upon them against their known will, and /
so stated in my correspondence with the President as
you will see, would accomplish good object for the
savehoding States, because the people would elect vio
ent reppUiCdA L6eDAssuio, ouo sn0s h06sotuIo
send two very violent republicans the Senate the
United States and member Of Congress would be elect
ed entertaining similar views No possible object for
benefit Of the South, or any portion Of the
Union could be attained by forcing the constitution
upon the people against their WILL believe, too, and
slated, that such would destroy the demo
cratic party probably produce civil in Kansas and
endanger the government Shortly after arrived at L.
compton, the county Of Douglas Of which Lecompon Is
| the capital, had held . democratic meeting,
and nominated eight gentlemen, l think, Is dele
/ gates to the Ieoonpton Convention, Of which
| John Calhoun, then the Surveyor General Of the
| Tsrritory was at the head. The resolutions
OF the meeting required them 70 sustan the submission
the constitution 70 the vote Of the people They pub
lshed written pledge TO that effect Rumors cir