The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-19

Worth would als avs necessarily have a majority in The
Eouse OF Representative, which opinion have onter
tanned since the Mssour Compromise, avowpg tha,
time and On great many public occasions ever since
Tpw opinion I sill entertain, not from any
sectional views but because do believe II would best
tend TO accomplish the great and paramount object or
preserving the government. But at the same time u
was perfectly obvious and every person that
II was possible TO mpish that object by fair
IN Kansas was determined that, 30 far ~ my action
was concern there should be fair vote OF the people
and hat would coun!enance NO frauds forgsriss
yillsipy OF any kind, In connection with Q question
20 solemn as that, This attempt 10 make Kansas .
slave State developed itself in the fall OF 1867.
frs. was fully developed by the terrible forgeries In
the pretended returns They not legal returns that
we're sent to Governor OF the Territory and which
rejected although that rejection gave majority OF tho
Territorial Legislature to my political opponents,
the republcsns-st which, am free 70 say,
was deeply greved. did my best to &C.
cure democratic majority in that Legislature and
erteo my sell most anxiouiy, making stump speeches
The rst forgery presented 10 the ut 0xfor
which forgery upon ts face, and that il was so has
since been acknowledged by one Of the Judges whose
names eigned 70 IL. In pubis document he de-
clares that he did ax his signature to IT, In Ok
ford sixteen hundred votes were attempted
10 be given in . village Of six houses, where
there were rot fifty voters, ana COW
ertaired that not thirty votes really
given. The all orgeres My rejection Of that
return nasmuch % embr Aced the two large counties
Of Johnson and Douglas, gave majority OF the Territorial
Legislature to the republicans then very bitterly
denounced At which felt profoundly Indifferent be ausa
thought that any who would approve or endorse
preferred his to his approval Various personal
threats were made, which also dHIegafded. The
next return presented that from McGee county,
where there certainly twenty voters but which
returned twelve hundred voters, given 81
three different precnts and where It "a sscsrsaned
that there was NO election holden at all given.
These also rejected by me. And at length
Was fully developed that, contrary ~ all the pledges
given especially by Calhoun himself, the President of the
Convention, that they would submit the Constitution 70
the vote OF the people, another course was resolved
upon Finally, few days before the vote was taken
upon the subject Mr. Calhoun the President Of the Con-
venton, called upon me, and submitted substantially the
proer slavery which subseq ienty a6optet
by the Convention, and asked my concurreDce He pre-
scented various prospects Of very high place from the
people Of this Union If ! would coucur, and as
surtd me that that was the programme Of the
sdmnist alton. said that was impossible, and showed
Mr. Cslhoun this letter Of Mr. Buchanan OF the 12sn
of July, 1857 He eaid that the administration hAd
changed is policy told him did not believe H. but let
who would change their views that question: with me
the question Of submitting the constitution to the
vote Of the people was fundamental, and l never
would change or modify my views on that
question in the slightest respcct-that I would
fight IL out TO tho end, be the consequences
to me personally politically what they might Mr.. Cal
houn continued to insist that ought TO 60 with the free
ident upon this subject denied that he had any right to
speak for the President that the office that he held
though far the most lucrative in the Territory, believe
not connected with the administration Of civil A.
fairs, but 70 surveying Of the public lands,
and that il the President had any intimahons
give to this subject they could come from him
self. asked him he had any letter from the Bresi
dent He ssd be had not; but that the
to him In such manner 10 be entirely reiablethat
this particular programme, which finally adopted In
Kansas, was the programme Of the administration.
sisted that never would assent to it, and gave
various reasons. stated, in the hrst place, that
had openly pledged myself 10 the people Of Kansas de-
carDg that authorized by the President, 30 far
~ my power, and that of the government would avail
that ibis constitution should be submitted fairly To their
vote for ratification rejectionthat had by these
putting tho Topeka State government into operation,
which otherwise undoubtedly would have been done,
and that 1t would be disbonorabie 10 me to
forfeit these pledges, and that l could not do It.
/ stated that, although / insisted that the Kansas
and Nebraska bill required that the constitution
itself should be submitted TO the vors OF the
people, yet they would make good constitution, and
submit the slavery question distinctly by itself to fair
vote Ct the people, although cid nos correspond with
my vews yet would not interfere, but that the par
tcuar programme which they proposed 10 adopt did not
submit the question Of slavery to the people Of
Kanaas hat only submitted It, and those constituting
email msjoriiy who in favor Of the constitution.
cause the vote was limited to vote for the const
tuition with slavery, and for the constitution without
slavery, and these who opposed to tho constitution
permitted to vote at all, therefore considered
such submission Of the question vile fraud, base
counterfeit, and q wretched device TO prevent the
people voting even on that question. said to him
that not only would not support II, but l would
eenounce 1t, no matter whether the administration
sustained II or not: and always have denounced it, and
shall ever continue do is due to frankness to say
that when came on here In November the President
himself distinctly and emphatcally assured me that he
not authorized say that he had approved
Of that programme told him that such being the case
could not but believe that some member Of the i'd
mnistration person in high authority, enjoying
its confidence, must have given those assurances or Mr.
Calhoun would not have msde the communication that he
had me- and also changed his course upon the sub
ec for Mr. Calhoun had been the distinguished and special
leader OF the Douglas party in Kansas and was supposed
to been appointed Surveyor General upon Judge
Douglass recommendation he certainly requested me
to have him retained assuring that he would support
the submission Of the constitution TO the vote Of the
people, as he did until late period. When Mr. Calhoun
made this communication TO he requested me not to
mention to Mr. Stanton, the Secretary Of State Of Kan
sas, and believe never have done 30. Nor should
have communicated 70 you except a. necessary to my
vndicaton from the testimony you have shown me 70
day Ills also due to frankness to further say that am
fully impressed with the conviction that the Preadeni
himself did not get up this programme, though
do believe gotten up by some Of the administers
ton others high in authority. feel very serious en-
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