New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-05-23

and the thlef.iuEtiCe de6dlicO cOudcd
The President Of the United States. The Senator from
Illinois got over his bargain by saving that he did
hot agree abide by the decision in the bred Scott
case; but when the carried up from the Ter
riorial Courts to the Supreme Court, he would obey
that This wRs an after thought first announced in
the canvass of 1858, when pressed by Mr.. Lincoln
for seat IN the Senate. To save himself from defeat
he introduced hs theory TO the power Of the people
III the Territories Mr.. BENJAMIN then read from the
discussions between Messrs. Lincoln and Douglas, to
show that the former much candid in bis an
swers than the latter and he confessed be was not such
an ultra Anti-Slayery man as he supposed Mr.. Doug
las told here that he would abide the decision of the
Court but at home he turns his back on bis promise
repudates his words and tells his people that he has so
arranged the Kansas bin that in spite of the decision
the people Of the Territories keep slaves out To
be twice deceived by the same man would be to make
them dupess and fools: Even Mr.. Lincoln
was shocked at his proAigacy, and charged him
with bad faith The election came off and though Mr.
Douglas successful by the arrangement of the Leg
isative Districts Mr.. Lincoln beat him 1000 on the
popular vote. Mr.. Benjamin next read from Mr.
Douglass Harper's Magazine article 10 show that he
had absolutely copied Mr.. Lncons arguments of 1858
and claimed them discoveries of his Mr.. Ben
jamin warned Mr.. Douglas that the tendencies OF his
doctrines TO drive him back step by step to the
Black Republican camp. WEI already find him using
the arguments and quoting the language of
the Republican party. He next took up Mr..
Douglass statement that the Tennessee resolutions,
offered Charleston, We're liable TO two constructions
and said he had arerdy threatened them TO put con-
sirucon unriendly TO the South He read the resolu
tons and contended that they susceptible OF but
fair construction, and that full recognition
of the right Of all citizens TO take property into the
Territory. He further said the South ROW demanded
a clear and explicit declaration of principles He
wanted no platform of doubtful construction. The
Senator from Illinois claimed TO belong TO the Demo-
cratic party end to have had majority with him at
Charleston. How was that apparent majority OBJ
tanned?
MIR. PUGH-It was expressed by vote of the
States present.
Mr.. BENJAMIN-Yes II was obtained by one Of
those little arrangements which sometimes made.
But the truth of history will leak out. Mr. Benjamin
then explained how by skifu tactics they succeeded
in getting rules adopted by which the votes Of minOr
ties against Douglas were suppressed under the unit
rule, and minores in his favor allowed TO vote. He
read the statistics - the voting to sustain this view
and 10 show that mr. Douglas really had only 100
votes in the Convention. In this connection he read
largely from Mr. Buffers speech TO his constituents in
Massachusetts. More in sorrow than in anger" he
had thus referred to the Illinois Senator Up
TO 1858 no one had higher regard respect for
him than himself. He had held him up to the Demo
Gratis of Louisiana in 1856 as the model of an American
statesman, but his confidence in him forfeited and
could not be restored. He had repudiated his obhga
tons. After making his promises he went home, his
knees faltered, and be gave way. Mr.. Lincoln, who
stood firmly ON principle, and was beaten, Is the cand
date for the Presidency Of his party. Mr.. Douglas,
who altered won the prize be eontended for but the
gittering prize which he haslooked for years slip
ping from his grasp. He might conclude, the Sena
from Illinois had done, by saying that he had acted
only in seifdeense and all that he had said could only
he 80 considered.
Mr. HAMMOND rose to question of privilege,
upon which he would speak tomorrow. 1t was that
speech of the Senator from Massachusetts, appeared
in TIE Globe, as delivered yesterday, which he did
not hear, and which be believed was not delivered at
ALL containing reflections on bis State which it was
necessary TO answer.
Mr.. PUGH Dem, Ohio said the Senator from
Louisiana had demonstrated that there vas nothing
eauivocal in the Kansas BILL or the Cincinnati plat
form. The Kansas bill provided the manner in which
the power OF the people Of the Territories was TO be
determined by the Supreme Court, and the question
had not yet He denied that the bred Scott de-
cson settled the points at issue. The question of the
power of the people of the Territories not argued
in that case, supposed to be Involved. If subms
sion 10 the demands of the Senator from Louisiana
the price of peace in the Democratic party he
warned them all that peace was at end. MIR. Iugh
examined length the bred Scot case, to sustain his
view He argued that if the Constitution established
Slavery in the Territories, it also established it in the
States, and combated the correctness of this dogma
He Tetored the charge OF want OF faith, and abandon
ment of bargains upon the Senator and his friends.
He defended and explained Mr.. Douglass FrespOrt
speech from the attacks made upon IT, contendng that
II simply meant that Slavery would not be forced upon
the people against their will. Mr.. Douglas was not
only pressed by his immediate political enemies but by
he Administration which invaded sovereign State 10
interfere TO control the election.
Mr. WADE rep, o. asked Mr.. Pugh if he believed
n Territorial Legislature could prohibit Slavery and
that the prohibition would be legal and efectualf
Mr.. PtGH replied afhrmatively.
Mr. WADE thought he had heard the Senator say It
was a judicial question and he did not see what the
people had to do with it.
Mr.. PUGH further argued that the Tennessee plat
form was ambiguous and cOntrOverted the allegations
that the views of the majority were not expressed at
Charleston. He cOntended that the seceders who left
had definitely separated themselves from the Demo-
gya1f baip az
He thought the Senator from Louisiana had better JON
the Richmond gathering. The mode OF voting at
Charleston was IN pursuance OF that recommended by
Calhoun.
Mr. WIGFALL Dem, Texas corrected this state
ment. .
Mr.. PUGH insisted that he was correct. Other dis
cnssions 10 the nsru t0Ds given to the dele
gates from Minnesota and elsewhere.
Mr.. SLlDELL Dem, La.) made an explanation IN
regard to the vote of Louisiana and long debate en-
sued as TO whether the votes in Charleston expressed
the viii Of the majority.
Mr. THOMPSON Dem, n. j. said New-Jersey
bad recommended her delegates 10 vote as unit and
no one could have been elected by the Democratic
State Convention who avowed himself Douglas man.
Mr.. PUGH continued TO controver the arguments
Of Mr. Benjamin on this point lie SAID that the r9p-
ture at Charleston grew out of the fact that Judge
Douglas having incautously said he would not allow
his name TO be used IN certain platform was
adopted the friends of all other candidates united 10
construct a platform on winch he could not stahu'
That was the Administration game and the South was
gotten up purposely TO accomplish this end Mr. Pugh
then assiiled the reliability Of Louisiana, Texas, ore-
gon and other States claimed Democratic, which
called up the seceders from those States who seyery
made explanations. He wanted the Richmond Con-
vention 10 nominate their candidates. They had no
business 70 come 10 Baltimore, and If they came he
would sit and vote till the 4th of March, TO keep them
out. Men who voted for Stephen A. Douglas fifty
seven mes would not get tired Of continuing to do So
The gentlemen Of the South had made the issue.
They had made il question of personal honor, and so
il would stand. The North wonld not submit to die
fro, South as their nrincnles and aelec