New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-12-05
XXXVIITH CONGRESS.
SENATE. .WAsHisGros, Dec. 4, 1860.
SECOND SESSION.


formed its duty.
Tie Presidents Message was delivered by A. j.
Glossbrenner, his private Secretary.
The reading of the Presidents Message was COM
menced at 10 minutes past IL and finished at minutes
to g. The attendance in the galleries was slim.
Tho Message and accompanying documents viii be foand In
Mr CLINGMAM said: The last portion of the Mes
sage was eninenty patriotic, and agree with 1t 10
hat il is not that dangerous man may be elected
We know that may occur. But l assert that Presi-
dent has been elected because he was known to be
dangerous nan. lie avOwed the principle OF what ID
known as the "irrepressible conflict, and ayowed
that IT is the purpose Of the North to make in
section, and for that he is taken up That
declaration of war is dangerous because II has been
indorsed by majority of votes in the Free States.
We have had the election and the President very ru
Iy saws he NAV be powerless by Of the OPPOSE
ton of Congress now. But that is only temporary
relief Everybody knows that the majority which has
borne the President elect to his position will soon give
him majority here. Both the Senators from Indiana
and the Senator from Illinois (Mr. DOuglasl would
be beaten by the Same majority if they
had a chance to get at them. We know that the
House of Representatives is divided, but not how long
it can be 80. We know that New-England has pre-;
sented an unbrOken front for the last two years. and
does any doubt but that the same vote can MAKE
clean majority in both branches OF congress ana 80
YOU will have sectional party ruling And what i
worse it appears that little more than two-thrds
NAV control and determine the government and oppress
not only the South, bat q minority at home NOW
take it for granted nobody foresaw tins state OF thhgS
wien the Constitution made, but under our pre-
sent system as everybody sees, there may be sec
tional majority which represents IN iact, minority
of the people who may absolutely control the whole
Government. l free to say, II my sectloh
ia TO be placed in the position which Ireland sustained
to Great Britain should think that furnished serious
cause for alarm. And them what is worse, we are I'M
der Government of sectional combination, which does
not respect its rights but whose one principle ls
hostility to the Southern States. 1t is at which has
alarmed the country Bur il talked to about these
things being done under the Constitution, and we are
advised that Of the States inclined TO be precl
plate. don't think Some OF theCottOn States may
be precItate but say boldly that occurrences which
have taken place in this country for the last hffeen
years had been done by any foreign power we should
have had war. Everybody knows if the property OF
Freedmen had been taken by Engand and that Gov
eminent would not protect it, but should pass laws 10
prevent it's protection and its return to the owner,
there would have been war Immediately B"t
we are in a worse condition. The
Rarbary States when thew used to send out their
cruisers were honorable and manly, compared to these
proceedings in this country And yet in perfect safety
Ills system of legislation has been going on, and we
have no redress In regard TO the State OF South Caro-
lima, / think she has shown commemorate palenoe.
Gentlemen say that these border States have the most
reason to complain. But what has been the past ms
tory of the country We all know that in 1850 when
there was great struggle going on TO get fair settle
ment which would have placed the South in fair po
siion the border States were the first TO leave Us in
the struggle. They the first to be satisfied with
the Fugitive Slave law. / do not mean to say that all
of them did, for the Senators from Virginia were not
satisfied so WELL And again, Last Winter, the State Of
South Carolina sent Commissioner to Virginia There
was great howl from the Press North and South, of
Unionism, and Virginia was called upon not
to 90 into any Of the South Carolina dls-
union schemes / think il unfortunate that no
action was taken then. Their position is like two per-
sons who have received contempt aud one says that
the other shall not 20 away for then all the blows will
fall upon him, and wants the other to stand by him.
II any foreign power had treated so, should have
had war Immediately. Gentlemen talk about the re
peal of these laws but am free TO say that such re-
peal would not be satisfactory TO the State from which
came. 1 do not see how any Southern man can make
that proposition And if gentlemen on the other side
have anything to propose to the, section
from which / come, / would be pleased TO
hear it. We have, in North Carolina, only
two considerable parties. The absolute submission
PARTY is extremely small. And the two principal par
Ties consist of those who for immediate action, and
those who are for waiting few months to if any
new guarantees will be presented for safety. In my
opinion, unless something of that kind s done, you
will see most of The Southern States in motion at an
early day. In my judgment, the wisest thing this
Cons could do would be TO divide the public prop
erty fairly, and to apportien the public debt have
heard Indications OF the suffering that will fall the
South shOuld they secede But my people are not ter
rihed by any such idess. They have been governed
by strong attachment to the Union, and they
have no fears for the future. We have more
territory than all the colonies had when they Sc
will support population OF three hundred millions.
We have four times as many people a. the colonies
had. lie had the satisfaction OF knowing that the
made upon them was beneficial to the industry Of
the State. 1 do not see why Northern gentlemen
should wish to continue connection on such terms.
They say our institutions a sin and disgrace.
Well il they should separate, their cOnscences will
be hee from all responsibility. They want a
high tariff. They may put on 500 per cent if
they lease, aud nobody on our side viii complain.
1t does to if they are sincere in their
VIEWS they ought to welcome separation. j do
not exactly understand the Message to the matter of
collecting revenue Ii l understand, the President
does not think we have the right to State to
in the Union. But can tell him that the
most offensive form Of coercion would be the collecting
Of tribute And if il be the policy to collect revenue
i have no doubt some collision might occur | hope
there may be none. should be very glad ii that state
OF things might arise which would tend harmony and
peace. But If there is to be separation, either of a
pant or the whole OF the Slave States | think
II better for ali parties that it should be done
peaceably and quietly and as far as 1 have
any influence IL viii be done will not undertake
to say what my own State will do, but in my opinion
the movement will not stop till they all 20 out give
ny opinion, aud speak as frankly as 1 would to
any gentleman by the iireside. My purpose is not so
much to make speech to state what think is the
great difficulty. That IL, that man has been elected
because I've Is hostile to Ii is that which alarms my
people, aud am free to say now, have said that
ii that election were resisted either now or at some
day not far distant the Abolitionsts will succeed in
abOlishing Slavery all over the South. As to the idea
OF waiting for overt acts the Fugitive Slave law
has been repealed already practically. do
not think this WAS the principle which our Revo-
lutionaiy fathers acted i take il for granted that
MI Lincoln will not resort to any overt acts pre-
lie would be conservative in bis declarations and
would attach just as much importance to those dec
amtions as to thOse OF man who trying to bride
and saddle wild horse, and he would not think il
advisable 10 apply the whip and spur till he was fairly
in the saddle. think it likely he would try to raise
fight between the people of the South. That is what
they want. They want to get up "a free debate,
IA the Senator from Now-York MIR. Seward)
expressed a., IN one Of his speeches. But Sena-