Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1860-11-16

we have fund time even 90 cgslatc concerning mean
Objection Doc raised How docs it hold n can leg
atc for any class certainly in the State IS
deserving oi DO than the farmers.
Mr. Robinson of llghsatc said that Of duty
strained him 20 speak this bill. lie belonged 10 the
class that was 20 reap the benefits of this measure he
pcs bought books, Nc, and Dc had not piled them away
es rubbish but had read them sudinusy and carefully
He had Co confess that he believed that The benefit which
had accrued to him from them did not compensate for the
cost of them. Such his experience 10 book farming.
hc htcd among farmers too who skinned as much butt
l, and cheese FROM their farms as any in the state
Whom thc gentleman from Ncwiauc had said that the r-
mcrs only asked go bc le alone be- did not feel of
it because he dd not believe that gentleman knew
pains TO make Inquiries among the farmers 90 what
their opinions wcrc about ths bin He had found not
suited They do not ask ior itthey do not wish Tor
hcy do nos desire amy additional legislation for the pro-
motion of AZ icuturc thcy want NO expensive machine
rs n motion assist them There are outlets enough
f1f Our money now. New Offices afe being constantly
created which augment our burdens and our taxes These
have become oppressive Tor they are all raised hy direct
taxation. Had we some other source " income the bur-
den would not fal heavily The farmers have TO
pAy them they feel it severely already they complain
oft Shall add TO this oppressive weight by
abHshIng this Bureau whose prospective benefits are At
Much stress has been laid on experiments which arc to
hc made under the auspices u this board But what
they worth How are you 10 rely on them You viii
rote success while another has madc the with
complete failure. How shall we decide which 90 follow
,ro the Same blind Guides The gentleman from Green's
ior1 had road from the questions OF the secretary of
board of agriculture iu another State % show tha nrac
,r,opg the farmers of thc state What ,gcro tbrvf
l. DO bushes grow u your pastures II So, h1v DO YOU
Kin ihcm Certainly every hrtucr knows whether thorc
be bushes n hs pastures and that n Kin then, he must
cut them tp I'm Araust Q Are your uastures sterile.
II go, what is tlc best method 20 reclaim them What
nurcds This then s tho valuable Information we arc
% rccci,cl
e6f. IL was claimed. The chemist mint scoop up a
painful OF earth in ono spot then again scoop painful
nom AN ihcrt rod from the first and find it composed Of
different constituents. Our soil was so varied
ourc an anasis of every rod OF il tn prove Of any ser
Vice. flc uow believed the gentleman from Newanc
right Tho farmers desired 10 De let alone. lie said as
ono Of thcai lct us alonei
Mr. Moves Of Burlington said ia compliance with an old
,r DC was ready n defer 10 fbc nnnions Of the farm
c- or tbs measure Ue lad psil attention 20 tho dis
cussou cft but he had failed a. get discover what
practical benefit IL could De q, any one lie believed that
nothing o ho Sind had been drnclv and clearly shown
Nor dd this appear from hc provisions Of the bl itself
10 br sure 10 was said that t WAS 90 be the focus that
would concentrate valuable and ncedfu scientific form.
alton 10 agricultural Matters and would disseminate this
among the farmers Of the state But from the bin itself
appeared that the board was 10 report the legislature
and dusc generally the information embraced in this
report But granting that this Bureau will perform what
ts friends anticipate will the knowledge which they may
crivr from 70 be more beneficial TO them than that which
t is now possible % pain from other sources There
wcro numerous agricultural papcrs and periodicals that
th.rc ,, an, frb and i,p,rt,nt Jisenycns t,et arc
being made i'm this branch Of industry and presented
them in srryccabo and attractive form But aside nom
these papers, which specially devoted to agriculture
most of our political papers devote somewhat Of space
tl discussion Of topics pertaining the subject
He referred uarticuary To- the New York Tribune which
l1,c ihe result. ofhc researches of skl and expert
cncc men, aud o the proceedings Of the "fArmcrs clubs
,nd Of other kindred associatens Are not the sources
NJ sound scientific progressive agricultural science al
re,dy ao,ta o snnpy ths wants Of our farmers lie
wont on m ,,nipc INFO the benefits nccrninq from the
Agricultural socctes that are now established whether
tlev aro commemorate with the exnonditurrs for them
tit tao A.
~, IN t,s, yh s,,cnliei mon, l,,t a. rcy,rJoj JcG
L ,,r,,,;,i .-,,1 ,b, b,d ,,r,ycd ,,,r,tlcss 'Tbov
bad not p,rcnarly stfivcn IN stimulate homo nroduc.
lions Az t,,r,r ,rd f,strr domestic Industry and ski
I'm hs section NOV Mad been made cxhibions for silks
fr Uouit,n lace and other articles ot similar charar.
ter What have these articles 10 do with our agrcul-
turc How is the ovhion Of them TO be Of anv use TO
farmers For one he could not see the utility of
thcn. when the friends Of this should show
practical rood mo bureau win accomplish he
should regard the project with more favor.
Mr Scott Of Halifax moved TO dismiss the bill
Mr. Thomas of Wost F,irloe remarked that ne was
ad % hear this motion made II was the same one he
I,1 r,,do s''1,c two or tbree rccts bcf,rc Ur had
io1leI with dif,vor ON Tie sehee from the bcgipninr
Ue bad bocn something of a farmer himself he was
rcarod ON farm and lad exncrinentcd somcshat also
Bul he had never tboulb of askin, for Buroau 10 aid
him in mia farming For his own mart he would rather
b.yc l,l of ulnnre fr tbe nurnose Of enrie1ug his
bureaus I'M New Enrland nit is sound sa,acious and
experoucod oid farmer 10 be- placed nd the head of mi,
brd or is il 90 be some kl-slippered gentleman lie
was aware that members OF the House had been button
h1Icd outside OF the House There was some one OUT
sido who as ontged In ATTEMPTING To nut tbs measure
throuqh I'm whose interest was this d,nei Was any
ono 6 scfsacrRcbg As 10 do this for the farmer? Was
ID not rather done 10 promote the personal ends Of this
indivdual3
Mr. Thomas vindicatod the democracy Of the House
from the expression Of the Grcsn Mountain Freeman
rcpcliup thc charges made in It that ne had writon an
article n the Pr'ot against this measure. lie alleged
that although the article which was In the Freeman an.
pelred oioually, he had good believe Il
written by this kid-slppored fancy thcorsi who
cnlcayorug the passage Of this bill. The
man who would wdto such an article WAS not. n his
Judgment ft be the head of this Rureau. He then
discantcd the method by which the farmers in the
State had made improvements thus m had kept In the
front rank among the sf agrouursts Of the day
exceeding indeed those Of any other State. They need
no Bureaus now they need no hnt-hcd appliances TO
stimulate them they are sofrelant they Win continue
to progress using the sae means as they have hereto
fore employed going through tho same processes en-
ghtened hy experience aud sagloiy lie also objected
the machinery Of this board lie characterized the
method " It's appointment not being democratic and
beyond the reach nf the people their immediate repre-
senttives II did promise 70 place those the
helm whose management would be most likely 10 con
duce 10 the prosperity and advancement of the agrcul
a interests of the State This would be fatal IN pracu
cal and beneficial results from the system IL
brous. nei sient aud worthless
Mr. Woodbury. uf Springfield concurrcd with the gem
u which the board was 10 appointed lie should have
preferred lodge the appointing power in the ilint as.
scmhy of the Houses But this bill could not DE re-
gardcd perfect of course aud this and perhaps other
Objectionable features could be amended. lio replied 70
tho objection that Il was class legislation, aud said he
believed that the advocates Of the measure had To show
two things First Have the farmers scientific knowledge