Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1860-06-20
EVENING SESSION.

Inc President SAID Mr. Randall OF pennsylvania
has the floor upon amendment moved by MIR. Gilmor
| OF Pennsylvania.
Before proceeding in the debate the Chair begs leave
to the Convention that he has had placed 10 his
hands credentials of gentlemen claiming seats in the
Convention from the States of Delaware Georgia. Ala
bama Florida Mississippi Louisiana Texas aud Arkan
sas including in that enumeration the letter presented
to the Convention in his place, by Mr. Howard, OF Ten
Dessee in behalf of the gentleman claiming seats from
the State of Mississippi and in addition to that there
| has been addressed to the Chair communication from
Mr. Chaee claiming seat from the State Of Massachu-
fact the Convention that those several documents have
been placed 10 h hands be presented the proper
time to the consideration of the Convention.
ADMISSION OF DELEGATES RESUMED.
| Mr.. Randall of Pennsylvania, entitled TO the
| floor.
Mr. Gilmor Of PENNSYLVANIA have lde 4 small ad-
dhon TO the amendment offered this morning to the
amendment of the gentleman from New York (Nr.
Church, for the purpose OF covering the mentioned
| by the Chair Just now.
The amendment, as modified, was read as follows:
Resolved That the President of the Convention be au-
thorzed issue tickets of admission to seats in this
Convention the delegates from the States of Arkan-
sas Texas Florida and Mississippi in which States there
cOntesting delegations and that in those States,
to wit Delaware Georgia Alabama and LOUISIANA where
there cOntesting delegations, Committee on Ger
dentials shall be appointed, by the several delegations
| to report upon said States.
Mr.. Clark, of Missouri called for the reading Of the
original resolution and the amendment of the gentle
man from New York Mr. Church.) They accord
| ingly read.
| Mr.. Clark will ask that my friend from Penn
syyania Mr Gmor) accept substitute for his amend
ment what will send to the Chair to be read for infor-
nation. II il be accepted it will then stand in the
| dton of an amendment.
Mr. Richardson of Illinois, rise to a point of order
just before the adjournment Of this Convention this
morning proposition to amend an amendment was sub
mitted by the gentleman from Pennsylvania Nr Glnor
IL was then read at the Clerks desk; aud il was read
Just IA understood it, it different from what
It when proposed in the Convention this morning
Mr. Gimor-I have modified my amendment.
Mr. Rchardson-That is the point of order that rise
to- After propositions have been submitted to the Con-
venton gentlemen have right to change those pro-
| positions without the leave of the Convention.
Mr. Howard OF Tennessee--For the purpose of fac
tating the business OF the Convention will accept the
amendment of the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr
Ginor)
Several voices-"TOo late"
Mr. Merrck called for the reading of the amendment
of the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Nr. Clmor) it
| stood when offered this morning.
Ii was read published in the morning proceedings.
Mr. Clark of Missouri asked that this proposition be
read for the information Of the Convention.
Mr. Samuels Of Iowa, objected.
The Presdent-The proposition cannot be read if OBJ
| lection be made
Mr. Samuels, OF Iowa. understand that the gentle
man from Tennessee (Nr Howard) offers a resolution
| this Convention The gentleman from New York Mr.
church, offers an amendment that resolution and the
gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Gilmor) offers
amendment TO the amendment. object any greater
! Multiplicity of questions before this convention.
Mr. Clark OF Missouri ask the gentleman from
Iowa (Mr Samues 4 Democrat TO hear my PROPOSE
ton read, for the information of Democrats
Mr.. Samuels, of Iowa. cannot consent.
Mr. Clark-Very we'll might have expected that.
Mr.. Samuels-l cannot help It,
The President stated the question to be upon the
amendment 20 the amendment and that Mr.. Randall OF
PENNSYLVANIA, had the floor.
Sr Clark of Missouri said that he had been inform
ed by gentleman near-one who i entitled to respect
here and elsewherethat there cOnestiDg delegates
here from Arkansas The gentleman he referred
the Hon. Mr. Rust, of Arkansas.
The President-The Chair will state that the gentle
man from Pennsylvan (Mr Gilmor) had the floor 10
respond to the inquiry OF the gentleman from Illinois
Mr Mercl) in regard to the tenor of his amendment
and upon that the Chair understands the other gentle
man from Illinois, Mr. RichardsOn to raise point of
order
Mr. Merrck of Ilnois-The objection OF Illinois is to
the amendment a. read this evening. IL he amend
ment offered this morning That amendment passed out
of the power of the gentleman who offered it.
The Presdent-The Chair will the point OF or
der Toe gentleman from Pennsylvania Mr.. Gilmor }
| proposed an amendment to amendment Before any
had been taken upon that proposition the gentle
proceeded TO correct IL add to it foe the pur
pose of correction he says and the Chair of opn
ion that the mover OF the amendment has right to
his amendment befor any vote has been taken by
| the Convention upon il.
| Mr. Seuart of Mchigan-There is no doubt that
member moving an amendment has the right in certain
stage of modify it, But for the purpose OF modify
ing it. he must have The floor to do it in open convention
But he cannot do it in this way Upon the Offering OF
that amendment the Hon. gentleman from Pennsylvania
| (Mr Rlndal) assigned the floor to make speech
and gave way to motion with the express understand
ing from the Chair that be should have the floor when he
returned. And when that gentleman has occupied the
floor to the extent of his time il the gentleman who Of
ered the amendment get the floor, he has right to
| change the amendment.
The Presden-The Chair will not rule that the mover
of the amendment modify 1t, except by addressing
| the convention
Mr. Merrick, of nlinois-That is the point taken by
| Illinois
Mr. Randall Of Pennsyv ania-Then will give way for
the purpose of allowing my colleague alter and modify
| his amendment.
The Presdent-Tf the gentleman yields the floor for
| any purpose he loses the floor.
Mr. Rlndal-Then will rely upon the liberality Of
this Convention be allowed opportunity to be heard.
Mr. Gmor-Then, for the purpose of arranging oil
difficulties, ask to withdraw the amendment offered
this morning and substitute the one have Just offered
| and which has been read.
TIE question stated to he upon the amendment to
| the amendment as modified.
Me- Clark OF MOI ask that my amendment be read,
that the gentleman from Pennsylvaria (Mr Gimor) may
&C ,ept it in lieu of his own, if he prefers it.
Mr. Samuels of Iowa. said he would withdraw the OBJ
lie on he had made in order that the convention may
| certain what the proposition is.
The proposition then read, follows Strike
the proyiso in the amendment of Mr.. Church. of New
York, and add the following:
Resolved That the citizens of the several States of the
Union have an equal right to settle and remain in the
Territories of the United States and to hold therein I'M
| hv gha
er property and that this convention recognizes the opn
ion of the Supreme Court OF the United States in the
bred Scott true exposition of the Consultation
in regard to the rights of the citizens Of the several States
and Territories of the United States upon all subjects
corning which it treats and that the members of this
convention pledge themselves and require all others who
may be authorized delegates to make the pledge
TO support the Democratic candidates, fairly and in good
faith nominated by this convention according to the
usages of the National Democratic Party.
| Mr. Cochrane of New York-What is the position Of
| this proposition ust ready
| The Presidential read merely for information
The question stated to be upon the amendment 10
| the amendment.
Mr. Randall of Pennsylvania will briefly state to
this Convention the reasons why | shall! vote for the
amendment of my colleague and against that of the gen.
tleman from New York. The amendment Of the gentle
man from New York imposes condition upon the re-
turning members of the several States that seeded at
Charleston. deny the power of this convention to -
pose any such condition. The right Of their constu-
ents j. unqualified and beyond the power othis Conven-
ton, send their representatives to this body without
condition and without limitation. Applause and his
ses Il is an interference with the right of the constt
ussts Of seven seeding States 70 impose any qua6ca'
ton upon their representatives in tba body, dsny IL