New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-12-19
YORK DAILY TRIBUNE WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 10, 1860
r. Green made the special ordeI

and on motion of Mr.. Green made the special order
for Mond v Iext, > >'''' WV
Mr.. POWELL Dem, Ky. resolution WIS taken IN.
and alter the di-cus Of points Of ordr Mr.. John
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Mr.; HALE said he simply rose to say tina, what.
ever lie thought If the prctrabilty of the resolutions
of the Senator from Kentucky Mr.. Ciiitenden) he
had no doubt about the putty If his motives and his
integrity, aid the sintees fervor of bis parih-
Ism. But the Senator from Louisiana Mr.. Benjamin.
The other day thought proper to ask what was meant
by the amendment of the Senator from New. York
mt king and he now rose to ask for information.
He ad Ii tened to the long and able but erra,ic speech
OF the Senator from Texas Mr.. Wigfalll, who
seemed explicit in his demands; but the Senator
from Kentucky (sr. Crittendeu seemed of an
entirely different sect of politics. Tho demands put
forth to-day were entirely different from those OF the
honorable Senator from Texas. His desire was to
know which represented the demands to he made on
our people. He wanted to know if the Senator from
Kentucky represents the people, simply tho eusion
OF his own patriotic heart and the people really
represented by the Senator from Texas. He really
would like to know which of these two gentlemen
Iepreeent the State of feeling in the South.
Mr.. SALISBURY Dem, Del said he was Union
man, and his State was for the Union. He WAS pre-
pared TO accept the proposition Of the Senator from
Kentucky. He asked the Senator from New -Hamp-
shire If he was willing TO do 30, and to urge the peo-
pie to accept it.
Mr.. HALE said not to the full extent, though he
liked many things in it. He had listened to the de-
nunciations Of a geographical line 20 long that he
could not suddenly become convert. He would wait
Tor Some assurance that the line would be kept. He
did not believe the remedy lay in New-Hampshire,
but IN prompt and faithful execution Of things
already in the bond. He was willing to look the thing
all over. He had no doubt his State would render
anything just and fair He would not make pledge
for his people lie thought they had given the pledge
Of fidelity, and would give it STILL He thought the
gentlemen too prone to throw the blame on the Repub-
hcan party and make that the packhorse of all evils
present or future He feared they would be under the
ban when he had been publicly disfranchised as
unworthy to be on the Committees. He supposed his
speech would be called infamng. But the question
would not be settled here, but would be settled by
the voice Of public opinion of all chrstendom. We
refused to abandon Koesuth when Webster said, if
delivered to the Emperor of Russia he should stand at
the bar TO plead like criminal before public opinion.
We are making history but let the future be what it
may he bad fear but Of the righteous judgment of
public opinion, which would be mighter than the
fleets or armies
Mr.. CRITrENDEN'S resolution WAS ordered to be
printed.
Dir. JOHNSON Dem, Tenn.) suggested that the
resolution Of Mr.. Powell for the Committee be adopted
that they might go to work to make effort to save
the country.
Mr.. Powels resolution was adopted and the Presi.
dent authorized TO form the Committee.
MIR. Crlttenden resolution referred to the Com
mittee.
Mr.. JOHNSON referred to his resolutions, and ar
gued III favor Of different mode Of electing the Pres
dent But he should not discuss the resolutions
lie thought II devolved on every man TO come forward
to make an effort to save the country He did not diff
fer much from his Southern friends except the
mode of redress. He opposed to secession and
would fight for the rights of the South in the Union
and upon the attlemens of the Constitution. He was
would not demand anything but what was right. He
should act on the basis of the resolutions passed BY
large body Of the PEOPLE of Tennessee. Many believed
that State had the right to secede and the belief
L. -nl
those resolutions. Mr.. j. here read from letters Of Mr.
Madison TO show that the Government was formed as
sacred compact that State has right to secede,
and that the only way for her TO go out of the Union is
by revolution II the doctrine of Secession is true,
then we have no Government at all. The Government
has right to State but has the right to
force the laws against individuals in State. He be-
leved that the Personal Liberty bills of the North
were unconstitutional and revolutionary, but this
no reason why the South should follow in reyo-
lutionary aes. He lJohnson) was in the Union, and
meant to stay in the Union. He moi to be driven
out by any act but meant TO fight in it, Suppose that
slave should 60 TO Vermont, and his arrest there
mob should rescne him; that would be act of null
LITIGATION and rebellion which should be put down by
the Government.
Mr.. COLLAMER Rep, VIZ said that az his State
was referred to- be would like to correct wrong i'm
preston Gentlemen seem to think that all the laws
of the North in relation to slaves were specially en-
acted against the Fugitive Slave law. Now, the Per-
sonal Liberty law of Vermont adopted ak years
before the passage OF the Fugitive Slave law OF 1880
There are two modes of recovering slave One is by
taking bin just YOU wouldany other stolen property,
bringing suit afterward This gave, no protection
against kidnappers. The laws of the North were gen
orally made in regard this mode, and not against the
Fugitive Slave law at all. The people Of the Free
States never held the doctrine that State could nullfy
an act of Congress. There was no reason for suppos-
ing that the North was unfair uncandd.
Mr.. JOHNSON-Did not Vermont pass law re-
laing to the subject in 1853 and be would ask
the Senator if he thought it unconstitutional!
Mir. COLLAMER said, that it in the history of
the transaction that at the time of the adoption of the
law, the Supreme Court had passed law, deciding
that colored men had no rights under law, which white
men were bound to respect.
Mr.. BENJAMIN Dem, La asked If the Supreme
Court had ever decided so
Mr.. COLLAMER said it had in bis opinion. The
people Of Vermont intended TO pass an uncons,i-
tutional law.
The Senate here, on motion Of Mr.. BRAGG, adj
iourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
The SPEAKER laid before the Home a letter from
Mr.. Washburn Mel informing him that he has placed