New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-06-18

AN saw upon looking them over on Sunday-tee&
those Papers to the city A. No, Sir
o. Where are what are left Of them rev. A. I
possibly may have burned few Of then the others
have at home
q. What time did they come 10 you-close to the
electionl A. Previous TO the Governors election.
Q. Very near 10 the election A. A short time be-
fore cannot say whether was two, three, or four
weeks precious to the election 1t was three or four
weeks probably.
O. Can Won state the contents Of that letter that Won
believed to be from Mr.. Brown A. Tha. letter that
Isupposed TO be from Mr.. Brown was private letter
altogether TO me, and do not ant 10 expose the con-
tents OF il unless must
BY Mr. Train-Q Have you the letter with Won
A. have not; it was altogether private conmuni-
cation to myself.
By the Chairman-Q. Was the letter upon the SUB.
ject of these paperSl a. 1t spoke Of the papers.
O. OF the use of themi A. Yes sir.
THE witness was then requested to leave the room,
which he did.
The Committee had some consultation an to whether
the witness ebond be compelled state the contents
Of the letter. and it was agreed that lie should be asked
TO do go.
The witness was then recalled, and his examina-
ton resumed as follows:
BY Mr.. Train.-Q. We understand that this letter
came with these papers A. No, Sir; l do not
know that it came with them.
q. In connection with them! A. A large bundle
OF the papers, / have stated before were left at
ny house by Mr.. Brown, or handed to me in person
by him. am not positive that the letter came with
the papers, but my impression is that it came by
mail.
@. That is, the letter signed "R"i A. Yes, Sir.
O. And il in reference to the of these papers
A. Yes, Sir.
Q. What directions did it give You in reference to
those papersl A. Am obliged to answer that
Q. The Committee have 20 decided. A. As have
stated there signatures they purpored TO be- Of
two diff rent prothonotaries; some were signed Vine
yard or Vingard, am not positive which; he was
II cannot recolect the letter exactly, though read it
last Sunday that in filling up these papers they must
be made TO correspond TO the date; am not certain
whether got the impression from the letter Or from
conversation, that these papers had been left over III
the Office, and had been got out in some way
O. And when they filled up they were to be
made 10 correspond with the time the Parliamentary
was alive who.e signature was attached ? a. So as
10 correspond 1850 the date of the signature; the
others purporing TO have been signed by fietcaer
were signed in 1885, suppose; but | do not know
that.
Q. Where di it direct you to distribute them A.
O. What else did the letter ray about naturalization
papers! A. Well Sir, it said that there were thou-
lands Of heu being used or distributed, do not re-
member which.
o. Did you distribute them, or did yon refuse to do
30 I ~ never distributed them; do not know that
was ever asked 10 do il at all.
Q. Did you advise with anybody in reference 10
them 4. ! do not know AZ did; this was thing
talked Of by number of gentlemen there, as II was
well known there; there was came 10 me once
about them, and told him: Now you just keep yoar
fingers off them, you will get yourself into the peni-
Tertiary"
Q. u d Won have any talk with Sallade about dis
tributing them a. No, sir.
q. Did Won see Brown until after the election 4,
Yes Sir; before. / told Brown, when be asked me
abont these papers, that had burned them; / think
told him that ! had burned them.
BY the ChaiInan-Q. Where was Brown living ut
that time A.; lie was deputy naval officer in Pba,
Il al IL al. e
ihese rapers in the envelope with Governor Biglers
frank; know that was cross about it when read IT,
and received three four under the frank OF
members OF Congress from Philadelphia.
q. Do you recoect any of those franks 4. None,
except Gov. Bgler's | recOllect that distinctly from
the fact that said friend Of mine, " W hat IN out
rage his is; suppose that some other Administration
should get the control of affairs aud this letter shoud
be sent to the dead letter Office and they should open
it and find there papers in it, under Gov. Bigiers
frank" and viii say that of tho papers that
got from Brown were used TO vote upon-that | am
positive of.
Q. Do you know why il was that they were cent to
You particularly Was il not because You were
contractor aud had large number of Irish employed
A. This is the superstition; but it is a mere superstition
BY Mr.. Winslow-Q. undertand Won to swear that
yen never used any of these papers! 4. never did,
and am satisfied that none Of those that Brown
handed tom me- or those that under the franks OF
these gentlemen speak OF, were ever used for the
purpose of voting, or in any way used traudulently.
by the ChaifmaB-Q. Did Won know the hand
writing of Governor Bgler when you saw this frank
upon these papers A. do not know that ! looked
at it particularly; would know it if were to take it
and examine it.
The witness having read his testimony desires
to mako the following explanation:
Shortly after having received those papers ] packed
them up with letter which wrote, explaining from
whom got thcm together with the letter which re-
ccivcd from Mr. Brown; this was done in case they
should be found in my possession after my decease:
'''SES,rR CHAMBER, June H. 1860
Sir: have learned that Sir Ksms Rezdins Pennsylvania
who testified before your committee this morning stated that he
had received certain fraudulent naturalization papers under my
in 1856 soenny that banked any such
papers TO Mr. Harms any person, end possessed CT
tie slightest knowledge Of the affair.
Very truly your obedent servant
Hon. JonN CovoDE WILLIAM BICLER"