The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-06

been rather 10 Inc squa.ter than n benefit lie
hss been decoyed by policy OF the pubic lands ao hS
ushmg ma improvements, and struggling sgainss tue
eiiculr's which surrounded him, only 70 md alter
Year mat bis io had acted tue eye OF the spscus
'eI-ne nan With more money than himself str, am
mol ashamed 10 this that every hnet OF heart
evo's Al the advantage TINS taken Of the se;er an
no ashamed 70 stand IN thus presence and say oy every
po~er vested IN me ~ Senator, ! would protect
those sons Of honest toll ! did not listen 10 my
friend from Texas (Mr. w,gfaJD yesterday with much
q pleasure when he said that poverty MAS crime. 70
very may lead TO crime but in itself is virtue rheFe
are more men on the poor list who honess and pa
'iotic than there are on The list OF miionares.
Mr.. WeFAIl-l would Ike 10 know whom he calls the
POOR No, SIR SAID distinctly, yesterday, and dosire
not TO be misunderstood. see by-wei, 1 never read
them my self do read the newspapers, but some
friends showed some things in one published in BALI
more, called the asa, which greatly msfepreseDten me
saio Yesterday az distinctly az kpe how, that LABOR
was capital and that considered capital that which viii
oiipg money org time Fin 80 read books poll
ueal economy, and DO not remember definitions but
axe mat SaWia WIN bring money, and, therefore, tba
. capital which Will bring money Booze, muscle and
breiDs VIII bring money, and every who them
has capital and he chooses not TO nse them he guilty
OF crime, and IL outrage upon those who do work
and pay the taxes that the result Of their enterprise
INDUSTRY and the money they make the sweat OF their
'sces, should be appropriated TO snppor. paupersm
when >s but another name for vagabondism, and
Their name for crime; and would not myself give one
Dime W support man, and would not aid the govern
ment 10 do It. There is DO such thing poverty. No
and all these bills for the poor are but an insult and ion
puteion on the American people for have, been
poor AZ any body.
Mr. BRowS--I am not going to discuss the qnes
ton of pbraseology with the gentleman. l sim
ply wansei 70 give him an opportunity TO explain
what be said yesterday, What we understand, in
parsnce as the poor are not the absolute poor
the inmates OF houses Of charity but the not blessed
With this worlds goods You will fnd them every where
Sir there than ten tbousand OF them Ia sight Of
this Capitol TO day. should, perhaps not be exrava
CANT II said twenty, who regarded by their neigh
os,s and who feel that they are poor These
gentlemen born with silver in their mouths lie
my friend from Alabama (vr. Cay)-perhaps it woula
be well enough for all those born fortunenot TO care
for the wants OF the poor / of them, born TO
no fortune but poverty, struggling through the earlier
years Of my Me recoliec. from where came
taunt thrown at that class of people with.
out feeling disposed to say word In their
the muscle of your army Whenever you wan, soldiers
they do not come from the Filth avenue, from the
statesmen, nor from the mionaires, except they bear
commissions but did you want to stand in the line
bght for yonr country you take them from the clsss OF
people from which came. Yes, sir; from those who
would settle on one hundred ana sixty acres Of land
the who made soldiers They did not lack bone
muscles brains much lees did they lack patriotism
Mr.. WIGFALI-Do you say that such men formed the
Mississippi regimentS Sir the who filled the Msss-
sipPi regiment men OF capital, who had the sab
stance, wno supported we're Isssmen
own they never begged an acre Of soil. And
that the character Of the people Of this city No
Texas received donation OF the public lands aud
there paupers there No man. at least since the
annexation, but paid for what he owns.
Mr.. BRowN-I am much obliged to my friend for de-
Tending Mississippi from any assault Of mne Still, will
tell the Senstcr hsI know what belongs TO the honor
Of my own State, and does not very kind from Sc
does not belong 10 Senator's from adjoining States
charge me With being IN athful 10 Mississippi Let my
constituents speak held this language every coca
sion and have twice been returned to this body, and
twice to the House OF Representatives That my consttu
ents approve Of my position WIN not say; bu; doubt If
they will tank the Senator'S from Texas or
fho thav hava yura mad Rutrn
propoeen does not propose to give this land to the Set
tier. You all know where the Graduation act
and Mississippi land 10 twelve and half cents The gen.
temen from those States at that time anxious
have passed. You sir, anxious for its passage
Mr.. CLAY, (dem.) Of Ala, (interruptingiy)-Does the
Mr.. BRowN (resumine)-I did not say who was but
say next giving land away and that Graoua
ton act has given homes homeless people than
any other bill that passed Congress, because u
dnced the price Of land down to the lowest standard and
he appealed 70 Senator's under the operation Of that bill
whether the men who bought homes at twelve and half
cents have not much bone, muscle brain those
who bought At dollar and twenty.
Mr.. GREEN, (dem OF Mo--Al this talk about home
stead in the federal government Ia Donentity and
bsurdity The frt moment that the title passes out Of
the federal government 1t ia subject TO State law and
beg my particular friend from Tennessee Mr. Johnson)
TO remember, when he talks about making homestead
mains IN the fned S,a,es while he ocunant !. ssrs
10 homestead; but when the title rests 10 the State
ia subject 10 State laws, and under execution In Ten
homesteads, let them make them. If Tennessee wants
homcateads. why not pass Homestead lawS
Mr. JoHSsoy-We have.
Mr. GRsxs-Then let them execute It.
Mr.. GsxsThat Is al right In Tennessee. But outside,
what right have they TO interfere for home
seads This federal governments created for certain
limited and defined purposes, the public lands for
general benefit pay the debts and expenses Of he
government, but we have men coming up an pro-
posrg to make homesteads, when they know that the
moment the title rests out OF the United States s sub
CkoS cl~srr
execution II be sold the next day for debt Why,
homestead il ID . menomer. It s q misuse Of ter ma
Homesteaa,to secure man, wife and child, houel
Who can do h9 Nobody but sovereign power. Who has
sovereign powerY The moment passes out of the
Of the United States becomes subject TO State lAws
Better give them TO the States call upon Congress
is contradiction and absdrdity. You will give Them
i've years possession. Then, answer, we have a
Homestead bill tn the pre- empdon laws There
Is nothing Ike Q homestead connected with home
bill will tell You what IL is. First it s pander
ing to vitased, corrupt public taste; second is the
deception practiced upon the public mind use terms
just as with them TO be understood. impute motives
to nobody. We have Pre- empton law that permits
any man to 60 upon the public lands and occupy them,
and pay for them after year, and willing to
tend the time 10 two years. II they cannot pay for
quarter OF section then am willing that they should
take forty eighty But why give him the land
make a homestead? Now wha. do you understand by
homesteads Is Sperpetua home, temporary ones
lack the Senator from Tennessee 10 tell me-
Mr., JoHNsoY--Doee the Senator want an angwer now
Mr.. GRRES-f Co.
Mr.. JoHvsoS-So FAR as my views IN reference to
homestead 60, i am willing 10 give them now. What
mean b to put man in possession OF certain amount
OF soi and, so far the federal government
ed fopreva II to make IL free from any forced sale by
execution 70 long the title remains here. Then pro-
coed the idea that where the States have not already
done they win commence the policy where the federal
government ceases The advocates OF this bill do not
sumo power the part Of the federal
coming IN conflict with State authority, but while the
title remains in the federal government s Intended 10
guarantee and protect him in the enjoyment Of H. and
presumed that the States where this land lies will pur
sue The same policy the same principle Of justice, the
saDe popular sentiment which induces the federal 60
vernment n adopt II
Mr.. GREEN Mr. President, that diecloses wonderful
amount OF infoT nation
Nr JoHssoy-If the Senator viii permit IRE, far as
securing homestead 10 concerned, very hard for
State or the federal government 10 Of M cf
Gems 10 the enjoy Of that which he possessed
But thing s clear State federal government
home II be possessed II. he gets
beme IL viii be subject 10 the operation Of the lave
under which be lives
Mr.. GREEN The same popular sentiment A wonder
ul amount Of meaning In that say while the bends
10 the gushing wind see why individuals bow 10 what
they suppose 70 be the popular sentiment Popular
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