Weekly standard. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1858-1865, 1860-12-26

Mr. Person said, the arms when purchased Houlu
belong to the State and be distributed as otner o.e
arms the bill makes no provision on this sneect,
consequently they would DC subject 70 eA 's
laws 7j's,iE .}tJ ,yf .sa<.7 ~. ~ 'et'i.
Mr.. Ferebee raised point of orderly the Sstn
and the 1afh rule the bill cannot beacted on to-day
The Chair decided the proceedings in order! =.
| 1 Mr.. Crumpler offered an amendment to Mr..
Waugh's amendment to strike out that part deduct-
ing from county's quota of arms the arms alreaoy
in its possession. He is in favor Of the amendment
and thinks it necessary to give the State some secu
rity fortthe arms when distributed - =.
Mr. Person said the law already demands that Sc
curity shall be given for given out by the Gov
ernor and asked Mr.. c. to read the law on the suo
ject@G s''''f -4iD7 =. :. a.
cretonary with the Governor to require security OF
Mr. PEBBLES opposed the amendment
Mr. Bowman was in favor of Mr. Waugh's amend
,pent. and extended his remarks to some length in
its favor. -g -5'FFr---t .
Mr. Love, Of Jackson, defended the amendment of
Mr.. Waugh, hut opposed that Of Mr. Crumpier.
Mr. Jordan was in favor of the amendment 1t
mattered not whether it had been killed Oft in the
Senate or not; this House has nothing to do with
that if the amendment is right it ought to be adopted
After some further discussion Of the amendment,
Mr. Ferebee movedto postpone the consideration
of the whole matter until the 7th of January next
He said he wished to have more time to digest the
bill, and thought there was no necessity for hasty
action on it. On his motion he demanded the yeas
and nays.
The question to postpone being put it was lost,
yeas 80, nays ~.
The question then required on Mr.. Crumpler's
amsndment-it was lost ayes 45 noes 81, (some mis-
take in the vote, but so announced)
Tho question then required on Mr.. Waugh's
amendment. .1
Messrs Bridgers, Bachelor and Cheek made re-
marks in opposition to the amendment =
Mr.. Yeates supported it.
Mr. Clark of Craven, thought there was no use
for the amendment; the Governor had recommend
ed the arming of ten thousand volunteers, which he
supposed would be done, and it would require the
amount suggested to do it. consequently there would
be no surplus arms to distribute.
Mr. Waugh demanded the yeas and nays on his
amendment which being taken, resulted yeas 49,
nays IS, so the amendment was not adopted.
Mr. Cowles offered an amendment to the effect,
that each county of the State should pay interest
the bonds to be issued for the purchase of the arms
in proportion to the number of arms it received.
Mr. Fagg moved to substitute for the Senate bill
the bill offered BY Mr.. Hoke some days since, which
provides for the purchase of arms and munitions of
war, and for the erection of powder factory, &C.
Mr.. Hokc favored the substitute because it would
be cheaper to the State and because it provides for
munitions of war; and at the same time renders
available the arms already owned by the State.
Mr.. Taylor wished to know what amount Of mon
ey was proposed to be raised by the substitute
The Clerk read the bill.
Mr.. Russ offered an amendment requiring that the
money shall be borrowed of the banks Of the State.
Mr.. Fagg thought that If it were necessary put
the State in a posture of defence, and few would
gainsay tha necessity, then it ought to be done
speedily and at the least expense. This bill he
thought best adapted to accomplish the object; we
ought to act for the State as prudent individuals
would act for themselves and was in favor of pay
ing the cash intead of making bonds.
Mr.. PEBBLES opposed the substitute.
Mr. Newly hoped all substitutes and amendments
would be voted down. and the bill passed as it came
from the Senate.
Mr.. Mctane deprecated hasty action on this mat
ter. He could See no necessity for such hot haste;
where is the imminent danger that is threatening
US is there servile war threatened! or are we
about 10 be invaded by the abolitonists by South
Carolina! He thought none Of these things were
to he feared now, and therefore would move to
commit the whole matter to the committee on mill
tary affairs
Mr.. Fagg Withdrew his substitute.
Mr.. Mcrrinon renewed Mr.. Fagg's amendment
Decided not In order.
The question then REQUIRED on Mr.. Cowless.
Mr.. Lilies demanded the yeas and nays.
Mr.. HAYES hoped the matter might be disposed OF.
lie was in favor of Mr.. Cowles's amendment; had
been in favor of Mr.. Waughs, but would 60 for the
bill as passed by the Senate
Mr.. S:ler expressed his appreciation Of the bill
expected to vote for it.
The question being put on Mr.. Cowles's amend
ment, resulted yeas 80, nays 70; SO the amendment
was not adopted
Mr.. Russ renewed his amendment requiring that
the money appropriated by the bill, shall be bor-
rowed of the banks of the State ~
Mr.. Ycates demanded the yeas and nays, which
Il. .1k,.l kta
amendment was lost
Mr. Ycates moved to amend by striking out the
provision for issuing Of the coupon bonds of the
State. -
A message was received from the Senate concur
ring in the House proposition for the reception OF
the Commissioners from Alabama, with resolutions
which were adopted.
Mr. Ransom made some remarks, in answer to
Mr.. Mebanc, to the method of raising money to
carry on war: and the ilnpolIcy OF depending
borrowing from the State banks to ann the State
&C. - #
Mr. Mcba,,e stated that We would never raised mon
ey to carry war by selling our bonds to those VIC
were going to fight
Mr. Ransom said the bill does not designate where
the bonds are to be sold. a- '".
! Mr. Mebane thought the best plan for raising the
money contemplated by the BILL would be to raise
loan and borrow it of our own citizens
Mr.. Yeates could not the point in the remarks
about raising money to carry on war-we are not
in war; alluded to the financial condition of Euro
pean States; and said he would sooner take private
securities than State bonds in case of war. ...
! The question REQUIRED on Mr.. Yeates' amendment
| which was not adopted yeas 40 rays 60.
| Mr.. Martin moved to adjourn. --,.,. ..a -.
Mr.. Small demanded the yeas and nays, which he.
ing taken, the motion did not PREVAIL yeas 90 nays
| 95 e5 = .rs..4i ,-rr. -,7 -s.,, T.. i, - +
| Mr.. Cruu,pler moved to amend the bill by insert.
ing clause limiting the sale of the bonds to citi.
! zens of this State narz ST. Cd. =
| Mr.. Hayes Hoped all amendments would be with.
drawn and let the vote be taken directly the bill
By Mr.. DAVIS, of Rutherford. an amendment to
Mr.. Crumplers amendment that the bonds should
not be soldeat less than their par value on which
he demanded the yeas and nays e+a.s ,,..
The question being put resulted-yeas 43, nays