The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-13


sso therefore % Ter he 10 coacerped he gives
at once vote Of vant Of sosadeIce But this house
has not taken away its confidence from as, aod Gil
there vote that they have 81, We shall thius
ourselves entitled 10 carry ON this negotiation,
paee before this House. when IL vs. concluded, the rsn
OF II. for this reason, with view OF giving more in
form alton to the House than can do at present. tina.
have tbero withheld the that has given
n. Thouvenels despatch. I do not wish 10 follow the
right honorable gentleman In his depreciation OF the
character Of the Emperor Of the French, bu. it
rs obvious me that the course which has been par
sned, Is expected from the first, and have sad
frankly " the French govern already produced
great deal Of dstrust, believe myself that II when
the war was begun last year the Emperor OF the French
and the King OF SARDINIA had said plainly 10 the world,
lbe King OF Sardinia has 70 sustain great war against
Emperor Of tho French has determined hep him, but
the Emperor Of the French expects and has stipulated o
treaty With the King Of sardinia that tns err,o,es .,
the king very much increased In Italy portion o.
the territory OF the king neghbOrtog cosey upon frsnce
and the French Of the Alps shall Dc gwen 70 the EN-
peror OF the Frencb'I believe that opniou had oeeo
declar edit being bargain not SO unlike others
that have occurred in the history or Elrope-s
great amount Of indignation would nave been saved.
But must say that he circumstances whsch hare oeev
red the manner which The quetfov has btes brpJh,fr
VOID TIE tome taken By the sdrdsnan 9oceramsnt, tn
espres,ons uhieh Il used that weither ssu nor
exchaa0s surrender SAP (hear, ear)th conduct,
produced great dist,vlst country believe IL will
produce great dslrust all over Europe. very much
doubt whether strong resolutions or even strong language
the part Of this house would have produced great
effect upon the utms issue OF this question We have
been told that the passionate language ned this house
mace necessary Tor zoe french nauon 70 nsst upon
loss Of honor to their country not to support him. do
~. sassh muen v1ssnoe W 'nn. reprssenAton us
there have been dec from the beginning
DISCUSSIONS Immediately after the first discussion tina,
!ook pace 10 tne house o. L0rds was declared IN the
french ewspsPeIs anu through mem al over Eueope,
that although strong language might be used this sub
ct We haa no intention OF going to war The right hon
cradle gentleman, hr. HDrsmann, in OnesM his speeches
said might be quito sure there would be 10 this
house who wished to 60 % war about Savoy. No~, If
sns nsa oee IN en h,s nea
would not haV threatened war although Certainly they
country to 60 to war, still 1t u very differ
tnt thing not saying anything on the subject,
and declaring at the commencement OF the negotiation
that Whatever might DO the issue Is would not lead 70
var Ny opnton, as declared e " january and after
Wdrds, ond uhsch maze no oectton 10 Tec no' dt
such act TIE onreraon Of Sdcoy Is one that oA lead
nation so Mayike as the FfecA 70 cal on t1 9oueroent
from ta'"e 70 ame yor o,aer acts SMdT hnuTe, ana
ne1re 90 te.s taas noseufr we may .ssn % "s on e
not 70 keep o,seires apart from oter nations 6ro.e-
loud and long continued that when future
qutsuons may ARSE lusure qneshons may arise wo
shall be ready 10 set WIN others aud " declare.
always IN .he most moderate terms, always IN
the most friendly terms ort sui nrmiy thx the set-
Element o. Earope that the peace OF Europe are matters
Gear 70 tns country ana that tnat settlement and tha
peace cannot De assured they are liable to perpetual IN
terrupnols- constant fears, TO doubts and
rnm"s with regard 10 the annexation OF this country,
with respect TO the Union or junction of that other
tain The pesce must each other
must respect each others limits and mast endeavor
restore, and not 10 dsurbto restore that commercial
confidence which is the result Of peace which tends to
peace, and which ultimately forms the happiness OF
tons. Loud cheers)
Lord JOHN said he had heard the speech OF the
noble lord wth much pleasures as he regarded It MS an
sogury Of the return Of this country TO those alliances
which should never have been disturbed. He thought
that Parliament aud the country indebted TO Sir Ro
bert Peel TO Mr. Kneake, and 70 Mr.. Horsmaun for the
they had expressed their opinions this important sub
ect The language OF Lord John Russell WAS high spirited
apd stat smAnike but while applsadng IT, he could not
join in deprecAtng that OF Mr. Horsmann, which had evok
Ell It,
Mr. BRGHI-I am not able to say exactly bow many
times this subject has been brought before the house dug
ing the past month, but has certainly come before us
more frequently than has been convenient Tor the house
or for The despatch Of public business. Ono, no.'D
am unable accurately TO quote from the pubic speeches
have nearo AMI reea; put nave come ID TINS conca-
sonthat those gentlemen who have been 30 anxious 70
Introduce this question nave entirely avoided that which
appears TO me 70 be the most important part Of It'll
Is 2 part OF itInsmely, what is the direct aad
clear interest which this country has In tho matter?
For my own part stand here TO gard the interests Of
England (LAosnterl lrepuda'e altogether the course
(Hear likewise repadiate altogether the conduct
Of the honorable me noer Tor Brdgewater who appears
70 have taken sarana under ms particular protection
(Cries OF NO, no j.! and gesture OF dissent from Mr.
Kmgake AS SARDINIA mas been proved 70 90 the only
Power thai not trustworthy, the honorable gentleman
no doubt Wishes 70 repudiAs her. iaso disciaim any
approvs OF me pan o. opers0on soopsea oy ne rlgnt
honorable gentleman Opposite, VINO APPEARS 70 ma IN
government stand here simply as the Representative
greas Engnsn constuency ana % naviog no knd OF
business WIN 1 mater except 50 Iar as auecss the
nonor aga the interests OF England (hear near am
toas mas no. suck some o. snose INGENIOUS
eenuemeh VINO nave prlncpM sgi'asea tnis msser nas
they ought be greatly delighted with the transfer OF
savoy from sArdin1 70 france; ~ Al events can give
them reason why Eoeand enouId rather DC glad OF
tnan otberwHe SARDINIA mas agreed 10 the transfer and
las compensated France py IT, Well mas not been dur
ing me past year question: amongst Enesnmen ana es
pecaly amongst those Epgshmsn who frequent the
Hoore OF Commons and the whether by the success
OF the French the Italian war sardinia mas not been
placed TO certain extent IN the power OF France,
And wheher France mas not consequently gained an az
mott perpetual alliance with SardinaS believe that the
territory which Sardina has ceNed politically worthless
(Oh, ho) LOO not wnh TO De misunderstood sardinia
has compensated France by tue cession or that territory
and has by that means dstngaged herself from any feel
ngs OF gratitude or submission to France in
Of what France has done for her in The Italian war then
tonk that Should be that tna score mas been
seuec rstner man mat SARDINIA should or the future
consider herseh CREAMY indebted 70 France, and there
Tore, bound up 10 pc pstuu pohuca alliance with her