The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-11-22

lHllve lave .slemp4aa aai hy th- Fugitive sla
has sso~ that m. e. b StsDs taeir 49, pee
ietd TO be D.1eo upon sho pr pts set i"rtn "a ths
de,sson ~ ine saprems Toar ths aiLsd STATES "a
The 81 Prif esaDst pruns VaDla. that de;tpn da
proclaim Tire onoine that the STATE officers no iuni
carry out The pfovlsisnr OF 10 OF OpnEtss-fnst
u. fea,rs sUvsr uept cannot impose autse ups state
cira that tnsy lher laws of tn 'ir
own officers Ana ins nss D. true; put stu y - ire
GUY II the sGt. " deliver tughv. slsves IA @eb As
The 1py Of ~ general government 2 see that II doae
Northern s1itE, entering to the ef ersl o'npadt
PLEDGED then selves 70 suTreDder such fugtys an 10
~ okItsert Of their constitutional obligation tnai they
have passed laws ~bich "a ninder obsruct
the fulhuent % ,h.t ootgatpn raeI have violated
'heu pliented tsth What ought westp DO IN sies OF
lhsf mat IL The question WHAT Is 10 be ton.f ~
The law OF nations you sould have rgAt 10 demand
The carr rg out ~ thn slicle n sgfeeaeut and 10
not See that should % otherwise with rapeoi 70 the
states OF ms Upon; and ID case II De not done, We
would By thtse principles rlKht 10 Commit
OF feprsai 90 these families govern ments ana seize
upon thtr property that 81 their cilzeps, sheeyer
loupo The STATES Of tn 8 Unton stand upon the
iooiing with foreign patiups This respect Bat ae
aw 81 nations se are equsly bound before proc.vdng
to violent measures, 10 SGT ofih grievances before
the onend1g meDt, Ia give them opprtuuy
redress the wrong Gas slsie se. done char Ituok
NOT sppote IL were Great 8ftaio Aha. tad Vi la,ed
tome o'npact OF agreement with the e,nera govern.
mtbt ahat would 90 nfss oore9 10 thai ains
Ter woula b, dFecten In he Diet instance 81 hyng tbs
matter 10 the attention Of that government conu-
sloner be s.nt 10 thai country oped negotiations With
her, ask ~ fedress aud i could Only after Aream at
AND reaton had been exhausted 10 vain tnat iui
tale The last resort Of Dsons That you'd be the
towards ioI,Rp govern ment, towards member Of
Lat us, therefore, not SCI hastI 10 ihis matter lot
your Commit tee the state OF tue Repr pc
bill Of Grievagces 1T II be sent by the Governor
iabess states and If argument snail % r cd
IN vsinail sha tail 10 induce them 10 retarn TO their
constitutional ooigat ors-I you'd be for retaatory
measures suco me Governor has suggested 70 you
Thu mode Of resistsp the Union is ~ poser II
NIL bt be eectua, and In the last resort would ne
jostiGeo the eyes Of nations not only in separating
rom them, but by using force
Some said that the argument already
bausied.
Nr Con, Al
neLt is already exhausted. No, my friend, Il is not
You have never called the atent Of the Legislatures
81 those states TO ths subject, thzt aware a. No
'nng hss ever bten doue before bh year Tue aeolion
OF our own people has BEEN Called TO he subj CT lately
Nov, then, KY mmeAdetinn Ia you sonld he t1is
In view OF oil there quest nfof dlIulty let u
ton Of The people 81 Georgia be Calico may
be all referred LEI the sovereignty Of the people speak
Some 10 nix that the eectou OF lincoln sui
cent To dissolve the Union Some think other
grievances are suicent 10 dissolve tue same, and
the leg stature has the thus 10 and ought thus
10 set rhave no hsstancy In saying that the I@gsla
lure Ia not the proper cody to sever our eio-
raj relations that necessity should arise honora ,le
and distinguished gentleman the other night (Mr r.
Cobb advised you to take this conrseno TO walt 10
bear f' % ibe cross ,oads aud groceries say 70 you
you have power 70 act You must refer this que1
ton to the people, must wait H. hear from the
men OF the cross roade aud even the groceehs for The
people IN thr country whether At tle cross or the
erocerier whether IN oo,ises or palaces, are alt equal
and they are the soyefegns in tbs country Sovereignty
Is not in the Lgtsatare We, the people, soveresns
an one OF ,hegi and have right - be heard aud -
has any other citizen Of the state Your legislators,
speak II respect uiig but servants You the
servants Of the people, aud not their masters Pser
tides with the pee p in this country. The great Ollie
between country and all others, sdch France
Eng and and Ireland Ia that hero there popular
toveresIy, while their sovegnty is exercised ~ kilgs
and favored cstses This principle Of popular sversgn
", however N Oh derded laey IS the ountson Of oar
Institutions Constitutions are but the cbanus through
which the popu Will mag be Expressed, Our conBtlsa
ton from the people They made II, and they alone
Can rifbuuliy uDmase IL
ur. ToosBs--I afraii OF conventions.
Mr.. sTnrHss-l ana Tot afraid Of any convention legal
y ohofen by TOO pcpe know DO wav u decide great
questions scctrg fundamental laws exlc2 oy Ttprcsen
tayes OF the people The Constitution OF the UDtet
Slates made by the representatives of The people
The constitution OF the State Of Georgia maze ny
representatives OF the people cnxss al tna ballot box
But do not let The question which before the peo
pie be put 10 them 10 the language Of my honorable
friend who addressed you last night. win you submit 10
abolition rule resistf
Mr. ToosBs-I do not wish the people to be cheated.
Mr. s1KrHxss-Now, my hie1ds. now are ~e eoiag 10
cheat the people by calling them To elect delegates 70
convention 70 decide all these questions without any
pie by letting tnem speak their uniramueled yIe~s
in the choice OF their abcsl and men, 70 deter
mine upon 81 these matters Involving their peace !
think the proposition Of my honorable friend had
siderable tmsck Of unfsiTness nos 70 say cheat. de
wshed 70 have CONVENTION, but for the Legislature
10 submit their vote 10 the people, submission 10 aboi.
ton resistAncaf Nov ~ho, In Georgia would
omission 70 abolition ruleY' daughter Is putiias
question 70 the people 70 vote fair of
ting a. expression popular viii all ,hese ques
tiolsS think rot Nov who In Georgia going 70 sub
| NIT 70 abolition ruler
Mr.. Townsville Convention will.
Mr.. srxPHE-No my friend Georgia win never do Is
The Con venson win never scceds from the Georgia pat
general government not arait 70 trust the people
In convention upon this and al questions Besides, the
came here 70 Do their duty a Legislators rpsy have
support the constitution Of the United States
They did NOT come here to disrupt this gover1meot
am, therefore, for submitting all these questions TO
convention OF the people. Submit The question 70 the
people, whether they would submit 70 abolition rule or
resist and then let the Legislature act upon that vote'
q An 70
They would have 10 eat their platform, ignore their
past history, blot their records and take steps
backwards, II they should do this. I have never
my record or words and rever viii Bat how vii
Il be under this arrangement they should vote 70 70
and tho Ia gsaturc should reassenole win this vote
az their instruconsf Ian any tell what sort OF
distance will be MEANT One would say ssoede an.
other pass retail asory messureethoso are measures OF
resistance agast -rong-lrgtimsie aud right and there
would be many different Ia a. there arc members On
this door, Rass anoe don't mean secession,hst 10 no
proper The term II resutaDC Believing that tia
timer require action, am Tor prosensng the question
fairly 70 BE ope, for calling tcgosaer al untrllmeel
USnventcn. ana presenting Nj tae Questions 70 them,
whether th " viii 20 OF The Uuion Of
the Uuion they think best ard then lei
the leg ssture D. pie In their u1jesty
heard and tell you nov, whatever that Convention
docs hope and t'ust our people VIII abide ~ asvso
the calling Or convention with the ernsf desire % PIE
The tsace and harmony 81 tho stats fshouli dis
ike above eli iioss ylolent aessufes sdcptc1 ot
eupositiou lake tSe sword In hara. ~ ln7ividuss
without the sullority o. law Ny honorable frieli SD
lat fht II ok you T. sive me IRE ssord f you 90
give u TO NC y Geo hsta viii take y ny self"
Mr.. Toosrs - VII. Applause 90 tho other sde).
| Mr.. sTEiHkSs - have doubt thai my honorable
friend 'csi- he rays e ouiy hs excessive ardor
that him expression; but THIS val pass
o with The excts q The hour When the people Ia
their majesty shal spcak, have 10 doub thai % gil
bow thsir viii. wh4scver ~ may b., up,n the "sober
tecoud thought" tApplaure should uoorgis deter
mine 10 out " the Unos, ssas for Que, though
views mpht Dot agree With them, whatever the result
mar BE-, | shal boz 70 the will Of hfr peonle. Their
cause my ard sheir dee my my destiuy ana
trust this will be ire ultimate C0urse o. al Tie greatest
that be- Al Tree Ieope is civil war. BIT -
said, lct cell Couycn,i1n " the people. let ell
those ulaitsrs lie SUBMITTED 10 u aud when Trio VIII OF
a MAJORITY ~ The people has thus nsaa oxoress-
cd, tie shpe Snte will present one unanimous voice Va
favor of whatever may b. demanfef for believe 10 the
rover ~ the people thesnseyes when wisdom
prevails prsslon sc0t Look ~ what has already
been done b. them FOR t5er Advancement IN all thst On
robiss There u n0thrr ss a " the htstOry ~ the
world Lock Abroad RON extent o. The country /,
TIE other coptamuste grtatuess We aro among
The rs pstlops ~ the earth shall be sad, then that
our nftntons founied uraD The pfiDci ~ sefgo
yernment arc aiurel Thus far Il n Dobls example,
worthy of imitation. Toe ycntletosn Or Cobb the
other u'rht rai u had Frovof q failure failure n
what IL gra~thf look Al erpause n national
powar. Look population and Increase = al That
Ia a fafin Nhn