New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-06-19
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4 O Here Il A check 10 Hall for ssoo7 A. That m.gi
have been John n. Hall OF the firm Of Campbell, Ha
& Co.; dealt argeiy with them In money and pape
printing paper; think bought my supplies for tn
Union for some time from him and megargee.
Q. Here are two checksto Mclean, one on the 9tI
Of June. for n COO and the 10th Of June fol-
50 COO. A. That eas this Steadman affair, think; hs
was inter esied with Etcadnan; must have been thai
| o. Here again. on the 18th Of june are TWO Other
checks, payable TO nambcrs-No. 3n, SiWoi No.
3cs 5000; what were they for? A. Really sanno,
the checks, and the checks made payable TO tue nun
bers; tometmes when did not war, It 70 20 on tec
book who got the money, had the checks drawn 10
| that way. -,
Q. Was it the design in drawing the checks in thi'
way or emitting 10 make them payable 10 some psr
or their order, that ii should not be known 10
whom The money paid A.. II might have been
in rome cases; probably used money thas did NOT
want anybody 10 know about; most likely wanted 10
forget it myself.
@. What was the reason for that A. Wei, | do
not know Of any; would cay 10 my bookkeeper
draw check to John Jones 10 Peter Smith, or TO
somebody order, just the case may be- might be
usipg money that would be willing TO forget m ysef
live minutes aferward.
O. On the 9th of March, 1853 you drew cheek,
Nc. 243. for $4,000; you certainly cell what yen
drew check Of that amount for A. forget, really;
it might have been for property that purchased
at that time, for bought some property here; bat
think that check was for Mr. Mcguire, borrowed
money.
@. Why did you not make II payable to Mr. Mcguire,
then A. do not know; it might have been for this
propery are there Initials about it, nothing except
tie number Of the check ct
Q. No, Sir nothing. A. Well. was always very
car-less about my money affairs; have heard that
was so in my boyhooj, and know | am 50 now.
O. II to that this il altogether too careless
A. This check may have been for SOTO property; but
If IT in March, 1858 think it must have been 10
Mcguire for borrowed money; have recollection of
paying him so 600 at one time.
Q. On the 18th of March you drew ont with the
description of check this of $50 900, at
time $780, another for 81 900, and another for
&, GEO. making on that day -, 800; and on the 9th
you drew check for $40 CO., neither of these checks
designating the purpose or tho direction to which the
money was destined. A. think that by taking the
memorandum you have and comparing it with my
books at home, could explain what these checks
drawn for-I will not say every one Of them, for /
know that sometimes checks would he drawn and
would get the honey and put in my pocket, and then
The devil himself could not tell what became of it.
q. DO you recollect OF using only 5000 for the
LecomptOn controversy! A. used more than that.
tell D. ''''"' ''' "'''''' '' ''' ''' ' '''''''
@. Tell an nearly as you can, for You must have
general recollection upon the subject about what
amount of money you used with view TO aid in the
passage defeat Of any pending before Con-
gress that Spring of 1858. A. could not tell; would
rot like to set the amount
Q. Tell as near as you can. A. probably used in
furlherance Of my schemes from $50 900 $40 900 but
how much of it was applicable to that particular meas
ure could not say.
Q. There are two checks here, one for $1,000 and
the other for $4,000 and some odd dollars, beside
various other checks A. do not think the $40 900
check was used for any such purpose; have no re-
collection OF using as large an amount at any one time
as $50 600 for any purpose; have been engaged in
pretty many operations for the last three or four years.
sDo used great deal of money.
@. Did all the money thus used pass through the
channel of the bank A. / do not think it did.
Q. Did you not constantly keep upon deposit there
all the money you had under your controll AZ No,
Sir; frequently had great deal Of money about my
person; have hsd $1,000 or 0000 In my tobacco
uox at time; if had any money about me, it was
almost certain 10 be ia my tobacco box.
Q. So that ell the money used that occasion did
not go through the bank A. | do not think it did,
as 10 what these checks were for, 1 might, by re-
ference TO my own books of these dates, be able to
distinguish what the most Of them were for.
@. There checks o Carter; one on the 10th
If March, for S2G0O and one on the Dist of May for
60 200l
BY the chairman-Q; Was Garter loaner Of
BY Mr. Olin-Q. Were these checks to pay bor-
rowed money! A. Yes, Sir, / presume they were.
Q. Had You any other transactions with Carterl
A. AS the pay clerk of the Cerk's-Offce of the
House of Representatives he paid me for bills that
had.
, Q. Do you reeoeet whether this frst check for
g eco, WAS 10 pay loan! A. do not; know he
NE money! do not recolcct in how many instances-
and took my notes. Carter and he being the moneyed
of the House, would between them, arrange il
for me; som times would want a little more Tune
than the note called for, and would pay part Of it
and get an extension.
@. Here il cheek Of May PC, 1858, payable to
Is, for 81 ,54 80. Do You know what that transac
ton was? "A. cannot cell 10 mind now; my trans
actions as money, as You see pretty large aud
really my memory ia not very retentiye to details
q. MOI Here is a check, on the 18th of March, for
81 Eco payable to s. n or S. Z. What is that A.
cannot cell to mind what that would be. ~
BY the Charman-Q. DO you recollect drawing any
check to "saye the Unioni" A. Perhaps il might
have been; do not remember it, though, upon my
word; but would draw a check for all had in the
world for that do not call TO mind check for 8. u.
BUYING NEWSPAPERS.
Samuel Medary Was cailed-Q. Was there any talk
AT any time of money being raised to hug ont or start
papers in Ohio to sustain the Administration A.
There a strong application made TO to buy out
The OHIO Statesman again; during the tendency of
the matter | went home aud made inquiry to see
whether | could buy il or not, but could not but
that had nothing to do with influencing members of
Congrs RI, but 10 excoraie those did not think in
clired 10 keep in the ranks.
Q. Was there any proposition 10 raise means for that
purpose? A. No, Sir sad that if went home and
bought the paper i would have to pay cash, and !
would want somebody to let me have some money for
year; but spoke TO nobody about IL, aud made no
effort until saw whether could buy the paper or not;
ii could, said, should want loan from one
and should ask it for year; it is probable that great
deal Of the stories going about grew out of this
ter or something OF the kind but il had nothing TO do
with buying members Of Congress, but meant TO
excorate some of them; did not want 10 bay them,
but wanted "to put them through" as the saying
lie; have heard great deal OF this matter since
can here this time and have heard persons names
connected with it that AN knew nothing about
the matter.
Q. Wa there not something said about paper in
Cincinnati A. There was something said about that;
raid that if took any paper would buy the old one