The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-12-12


luxury, the habitatons Of beauty and grace ar
elegance instead Of echoing 70 the scenes OF
tions of the bats and the owls But to go back.
tell you the question is settled in relation to this great
movement Nothing can stay the hand Of the Southern
people or cool the patriotism which is burning IN the
Southern heart. When the arbitrary government OF
Louis Philippe, in ls4s, had raised the people Of
the baricades of Paris and the Of that great
city upheaving, Louis Philippe saw the danger,
and attempted to avert l. by changing hs Ministry,
the streets Of Paris. The next day he abdicated
The throne in favor Of his grandson The same
ng out in sepulchral tones like the trump Of the
Archar gel summonng the dead TO judgment. And so,
new, yon may tinker the constitution, you may sug
gest legislation, you may present additional constitu-
tional guarantees, you may attempt by all these
means, to stay the storm that RACES, and pre-
vent the people from marching on TO deliverance and
iberty. But, sir the words Too Late" "Too late"
viii ring here today will be reiterated from
tain to valley of all the South TO the North sounding the
death knell of the confederacy.
Mr. PrGH (opp, Of Ohio said-Do you hope TO continue
the Union from the extraordinary speech just heards
When the people OF any State organization or Territory
or community do not desire to have the institution of
slavery my right shall fall from the socket before
will force them to accept it,
Mr. NERsoS sadI refer you to my speech OF February
90 last year, when in the chair You did not say
yes then referred to the Burns fugitive slave case
Mr. PuGn-That is only one case.
Mr. NiRsoN read from the Congressional Gobe 10 prove
that Mr. Pugh did not adhere what he had stated
previous to this session
Mr.. PuGn-Iet me read the rest Gaughter.) l
adict that the Fugitive Slave law tramped under
foot
Mr.. IvERsoS-Twenty years ago elaborate report
made by order of the Virginia Legislature proving that
me hundred thousand dolns worth Of slaves were lost
annually from its limits by their being fugves.
Mr. PUGHI do not believe that all the slave States
have lost hundred thousand dollars by their fugtves.
Mr.. DorGIAs--I did not propose enter into this dis
cusson at the present time further than TO remark in
response to the charge made against my section Of the
country in regard TO the nonexecution OF the Fugitive
slave law. That law, like many others, Is not al
ways enforced in all cases suppose there never was
statute law that was not sometime violated with impu
nifty, or not enforced with much fidelity "a it
ought to be. ! suppose the Fugitive Slave law is en-
forced with as much fidelity that in regard To the
African slave trade But, sir | confess it is not en-
forced as faithfully as l wish it was, or as IT
ought to be- While ! make this declaration, iec.s
the complaints on that subject are unfounded.
where there sectional strife and excitement there
seems to be proneness the part OF the newspaper
press both sections to collect and give every fact
which would nfame the passions and preudces Of
ar of acts are aven Which makes each
section act under apprehension of the other Now,
sir far as Illinois is concerned, am prepared to say
that in nineteen cases out OF twenty where fugitive slave
enters Illinois, he arrested and returned without any
judicial process whatever Those portions of the State
which border on the Kentucky and Missouri lines in
harmony with their neighbors on the other side and fu
gitve slave is returned regularly stolen horse SO
nineteen cases out Of twenty where the fugitive re-
turned the newspapers do not notice the fact and even
the records Of the court have no notice Of it. N
cases where there is arrest matter Of course,
he returned IT he turns out to be fugitive, ana
there IL excitement But, perhaps in the twentieth
case the country where the public sentiment rs
excited and once in while is made, then the
newspapers filed with the horrors Of that
And the Of the is paraded by the
PAPER press Of the whole country, and although
ceponal case, II is represented as evidence Of the
general character recollect one instance OF that
Kind occurred in my own state, and that instance
have noticed m more than twenty Southern news
papers within the last two months paraded as evi-
dence OF nhdclty in the enforcement of the law.
And the newspapers tell OF the by the abo
liionists but there the tale stops And then the com
menis made TO how they can live together with
such treatment The tale, far, is true. But il IS
not all told II they had wished TO tell il fairly, they
should have recorded the further fact that the United
States Marshal appeared at Ottawa and arrested the
and took them to Chicago, where, in default
Of bail they remanded TO prison until tho LIST
October when they were tried found guilty and sen.
fenced by republican Judge OF the United States Court
to the penalties Of the law That is the balance OF the
tale. II IL had been told II could never have been
used fuel for this sectional excitement These
have occurred frequently in our Northwestern coun
penalties OF the law not inflicted upon the
And then civil suits brought 20 pay for the
slave and not only the damage but smart money granted
far the section OF the country In which live Is
concerned and yet know that the Southern people
are induced TO believe that II slave gets into the
North he Ii gone forever. They to think be
the Of actual returns published,
and only the exceptional cases Of rescue come the
kno wledge OF the people. / wish we could have
list Of the fugitive slaves that returned and Of the
number rescued, and venture the assertion, that
with which that law has been executed believe II
we could have record OF the cases, they would be
ashamed TO bring up that subject ms one Of the causes
no apology TO make for the Personal Liberty bills.
think them all violation OF the spirit Of the constu-
ion and think they ought TO be repealed at once and
think Northern people ought IT, repeal them ~
a duty 10 thcmseves-not upon any demand OF the
southern people but put ourselves the right The
have the honor TO represent never passed any
such law. wish there cause Of complaint Of
any other State. While we hear Of Personal Liberty
l.tl. .s.4 .f sutnr utslA
30 far I know, the statement is truc-that in no
one case have these bills been the OF dcpriv.
ing master of the return Of his slave These bills gene
rally exist in that part OF the country where fugtves
come, yet II happens that there is the great
est excitement on this question Just IN proportion
a. you recede from the line which divides the
free from the slave States. Those Of US who live
upon the borders live in peace with each other
| There never a time when my friend from Missouri
(Mr Green) and myself could not have settled this
question by referring 70 the justices Of the peace
each eide q the river with power 70 choose third
60 North 10 Vermont where they scarcely ever ssw
: slave, and would know how one looked,
they disturbed about the wrongs Of the slave
And when you get down South TO Georgia and Alabama,
where they lose any slaves they disturbed by
the outrages of these bills and the enforcement OF
the Fugitive Slave law. just In proportion they have
interest In II and don't know what they talking
about. daughter in the gallercs)
The PRrsupYST Mr. Fitzpatrick In the chair)T Chair
stated upon the repetition Of applause the galleries would
Mr.. DorerAs-Now. sir. as between Illinois and Ken
tucky. should have no difficulty in settling the
question. 80, in fact, between all the border
States, who know the evils Of which they complain
and the proper remedy, " they could be permitted 70
decide this question and you the Union would
last this Union n 10 be severed, " is upon
ground that the two extremes far from each other
that they do not undcrand the evils Of the question:
acting under misapprehension toward cacS other and
hence doing injustice 10 each other. But viii not 90
into n discussion Of the subject My object In arising
was 10 sustain my friend from Ohio In his declarations
far Northwestern country Is concerned that
the Fugitive Slave Law is executed with much
fidelity NJ most OF the laws upon the statute books
would be willing TO leave the question 70 Judge Mclean
whether he ever knew jury who refused u find
dict where the facts would permit OF verdict Judge
Mel can republican as he ", has executed the Fugitive
Slave law with entire fidelity, 30 far as know There
may BE- Instances where fugitive slave runs away
aud h never found. There are instances where
horses stolen,' and we find them. But
I am speaking ~ tho complaints which arise
from the non-executiop . Of the law. Ny
object not 10 creatcsrraion but 10 soothe tho excited
state of feeling IN order that may discuss this ques
tion IN proper temper and upon its merits MY purpoe
10 meet this question fairly Lat ascertain precisely
the points in dispute and lay aside all sectional feeling
and party strife and " cannot agree on line o
policy which will secure equal rights equal protection
and equal Justice TO every state and the citizens OF every
state in this Union.
Mr. Ivusos--If fugitive u found sccrcted IN house
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