The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-03-21

cooscm sson 70 proceed WIN tbw treaty R cjmner eS
sm desirous To accept Il; but that is
should be deferred until tho House has had al oppou
1y Of declaring its opinion OF the annexation Savoy
the head Of the Foreign Oce has been In perfect safe
~ He has acted In accordance with the wishes OF tho
people OF England Nothing co,d be better THAI tue
way Ia which be has declared his honest sentiments upon
this matter, and call upon the Houae OF Com
declare its opinion in ike manner before entering upon
ne consideration q the treaty Then, when ,hs H'lso
10 be opposed TO the honor and dignity OF Eogad we
can cay 10 France, eve wish to have peace aat any
between the two countries and will even sasfiaae
feelings for that purpose" (Heary
Lord RussML-N any honorable member OF this
house thought necessary TO propose for consideration the
hoe question OF the annexation OF Savoy dad fsat
With the mode which that question has &ed 6y
her Majesty government, TO propose 10 take entirely
os e % s vScS % ana 70
might, erhsps, be useful II might be that We
hao oxen too weakly on this SUBJECT. ana that men OF
more ability or more animated spr. might have been
able by the OF other language To have oeerrei the
Emperor az the French from proceeding in any TO
tbs xacn and those who succeeded 10 pe,sn.d,og
the boose To such the might properly the
Offices OF thoee who have conducted the negotiations hh
erio and proceed ia their way, their Own
MODE Of proceeding (hear.l But there ia course
which !s neither consistent With the CONSTITUTE ,usl pro
ceedngs OF the house with the ordinary confidence
which is usually placed 10 the government, aud which
above al Is Lot consistent with amcabe feelings bet seen
This country and France and ths H. wing day after
day irritating discussions putting forward particular pats
OF incidents tina, have happened oskng for DO particular
vote proposing definite resolution but al xays pointing
out the person whom the French people, by i'm mense ma
jorit,es have chosen TO rule them ruler whom
must dstrust, and against whom ought 70 be per
petuay prepared ia order at least to bring about total
rupture Of amcabe relations between the iutries
regre, the course which honorable members nave
pursued and must ask them TO como 70 some denoite
resolution to what they themselves intend by their
speechss (Hear hear) ! must again state what hap
ptned appears there discussions BET weeI France
and SARDINIA, when other measures certed be-
tween them. with regard to the defence of Sardinia
An wi n a.
eression against Sardinia, aud that some ques
uon wss raised or that some conversation took
place on the subject of the OF Savoy TIE
ard ended by the annexation Of Lombsrdy TO Sar
dps without any further conquest the part OF France
vaIauca, Afterwards incorporated into the treaty OF
Zurich that the Grand Duke of Tuscany aud Dixie OF
sooeha were to return to their domnious, that the
Pope was again TO have Of the R0magua aud
that Lem hardy " be annexed To Sardinia Tae EN-
peror Of france the who promoted that arrange
uent out was fully understood that there would be
question in that case of the annexation OF Savoy Tust
arrangement did not please the people OF Italy, When
that result was toeraby clear, the Emperor SAIL tha.
that being the desirable for the security Of
France that he should have the slopes Of the Alps 20
wards France frontier IN tdt question Her Macs
tvs government differed in opinion With the Emperor f
tfomoe FIR nay part say .ha. perer concealed
opinions that pots from the Emperor Of FSancs
did not fail Ia telling him frankly aud plainly wha. our
opinions to the and what consequences
feared would follow to Europe from that annexation
After that the Emperor declared 70 her Maesty's
bsssador well as by the mouth OF his minister that
he od nat proceed 10 Sdroy cithota consulting all
the eat Posoers Of Europe. feared that might be
done by sudden military occupation Of the capital Of
Sardinia and OF the Of the Alps, out tho Epe
declared IN the face Of Europe that he would pro-
coed In such manner Those other Powers TO whom
we have told them frankly sentiments and ia a man
ner than which nothing can be more strong
direct The question az TO the way in which these Pow
will be consulted Is still undecided. Viii they be
ved to state their opinions 10 the Emperor ard will they
speak out they entertain objections to the schsmey
Hitherto they have not done The opinion OF
the British the British Parliament
and OF the British people is well known, aud
there cannot be q doubt as 10 their sentiments
c1nStdnces do TO render rod my prophecy fh1
the Language Of dsdppropd be hard omt Berlin, ienna
p.rs red in ons Of The Powers most Interested in the
question tho King of Sardinia and be has not yet de-
oiared his opinion upon it. Two dispatches have appear
ed containing project for the settlement OF Italy, sug-
gested by the Emperor Of France OF them ending
with stating that the project were adopted, would be
necessary for the security Of France % annex Savoy:
That Sardinia than any other Power and
accordingly the sardinian government has given an
With respect to the Italian project but with
hat he will make il the subject 81 separate despatch,
to he communicated TO the French government.
The Power most Interested no. having ye. decided
how shall act, and the great Powers OF Europe bciug
in the same situation, think VIC should take aud
not not come TO preciptase resolution the question
esr hear) But whatever may be sad with respect to
Savoy will assert that the treaty OF commerce. which
has obtained appreciation will draw closer the ties OF
friendship between the two counrieswl increase the
Industry OF both naonsand by giving greater number
Of people In England and in France In the
dressings Of peace will delay and perhaps prevent the
to use his utmost endeayor 10 prevent (Hear, hear)
With this conviction shall be ready give my earnest
support TO the motion Of the honorable member for
&iddlesex. trust, when It comes before us, that
shall copscer the question OF the commercial treaty n
the main subject for detera.ion. (esr hear) Is
there anything In this question Of Savoy which should
prevent us drawing closer the commercial ties between
the two countries ? l believe there Ia not. ! can
not understand the opinions Of the honorable and
laarp rnn
cause cannot conceive anything more likely to defeat
object than invectve6 against the Emperor of the
French. The honorable and learned gentleman, and
those on the other SIDE ought not 10 conne themselves
to general forms In their denunciaons OF policy but
should give notice OF definite motion the subject after
the questions relating TO Goals and cotons have been dis
posed Of The honorable member for Horsham talked Of
our making solemn protest. but Il the Powers OF Europe
are to make solemn protest. what does II in such
remain friendly. Refuse H. AND ,oar must f,opS' I
cannot imagine the Powers OF Europe going with solemn
protest 70 France and being contened with total retus.
Ject which the honorable gentleman has in view. do
not find that when the honorable gentleman was office
any great coLcern felt this question believe Lord
Mamesbury informed that story was going about OF
an agreement between France and Sardinia for the annex
alton of Savoy to France Lord Mamesbury directed Lord
Cowley TO make inquiries the subject but he mixed 1t u
with other questions Lord Cowley saw Count Vale ws
and wrote to Lord Manesb9fy that Count Walscsl mad
qucstion Of Savoy II Lord Mamesbury had been go us
on this subject he would have written to express ds
satisfaction and to request Lord Cowy again 70 question
Count Wacwski upon IT, When came into office Lord
Cowlcy informed that he bad had an unsasfactory
interview with Count Walewski, aud asked him TO see
him again. seems to that this extreme zeal on the
part OF the honorable member for Horshsm-a ne bora
zeal because he showed none of 1t when in oice-goes
beyond what just end tends TO endsneer peaceabe re-
iaons between this country and France (Hsar hear)
wish TO maintain the honor and dignity of the Queen and
Of the Parliament OF this country but does no, seem TO
me that this Is TO be done by
or by mpuatons against the good faith Of our ally Hear
hear, hear) read with pleasure the various speeches
which are said TO have been made In another place on this
questions day or two ago think the other house took
grave, solemn and decided way Of expressing their
opinions on the subject and that this House. fit wishes
TO express its opinion, ought to do In similar man.
speech OF the honorable baronet the member for Tam
worth For my own part do object theee teasing and
futile discussions on the subject nasmuch as they add
nothing to the dignity Of the House and nothing to tho a.
curity Of the two nations, (Cheers)
LORD J|3fANSxRs thought that the noble lord had not
done Justice TO his predecessor in the office which he