The Perrysburg journal. [volume] (Perrysburg, Ohio) 1853-1861, 1860-06-28

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A. Mr.. Webster telegrsphed to me 20 met
him at the Broad and Prime street depot
went up there aud took my friend, Mr MtGtaw,
with me in the carriage, aud when we got out
there and Mr.. Webster arrived,he said, Il want
you to listen to what have got to say was
extremely sensitive about my position felt
that was right. aud did MT want to be put
in on attitude of abandoning that position. Said
! he You can get all that PJsto(ice printing If
you will write un editorial as long as your hand
! expressing your determination never to become
a Republican, Said | to hin, instantly,
"Webs;er, for the seas worth could make no
such declarations have done nothing that is
wrong, aud it having spent nearly u lifetime In
! the Democratic party is no. a sufficient ossu-
rance OF my integrity, | can give no pledges
! McCiraw said to me. You are right; you have
answered Just as your friends expected you TO
answer" AMI understood Mr.. Webster to say
| Black says he did not make promise of that
| kind but told Mr.. Webster that he aud you
that he was authorized BY Judge Black to nuke
| the propositions aud | always regarded Judge
Black as having exclusive control of that Post
o nee printing, That it was done with the
! knowledge OF Mr.. Buchanan all through, have
no manurr of doubt.
| IMr. Wuslow objected to the receipt of the
affirmation OF thu witness that he hid no doubt
of the knowledge Of the President OF this prop
| ostiOn.
@ | understand you to say that you under
stood Mr. Webster to state to YOU that this was
promise from Judge Black
A. Yes, sir
@ Not that he would use his influence, but
a promise
A. so understand it. wish to remark that
| | do not know what my friend, Charles Brown,
has testified to hear. except in n general way,
but certainly regard Mr.. Brown, in his in.
! terview with the President upon the subject, ss
understanding the President as having ueate
on this matter of PostrliGe blanks.
By the Chairman.--Q wish to ask you
some questions with regard to money matters
in Pennsylvania during the canvass 1887. Did
you, during the canvass OF 1886 have frequent
interviews with Mr.. Buchanan relative to the
use OF money in that canvas?
A. We had interviews.
+. @ Can you refer TO any OF them
A. | can refer TO no particular one there
were many OF them.
BY MIR. Wiusow-Q. When was the Sena-
torial election in Pennsy sylvania2
A. In JanuaIy, 1887.
O. You mentioned, in the first place that
the President wrote letter to you, Snd that
after that Mr.. Wendell came to Philadelphia
and there he made the same proposition to
youH
Q A / did not say that it was after the letter of
the President it was just about that time. Tho
G President wrote me a letter ust after the Sena
tolial election aud lie wrote m. another lette-
( in the spring or summer following, which re-
ceived while was in Nav York,
, @ D. YOU know the date OF the Presidents
letter to you
A. | received the letter in Harrisburg on the
day that the State Democratic Convention met
and nominated Mr. Packer for Governor. got
, il nj Buchler's old hotel
, @. You say that you were surprised al
e Wendels bringing the proposition to you, and
/ you refused 1t?
) A. | refused it; yes sir.
5 @. Did you look upon it as at all a dishon
d orable proposition?
A. (Atter pause.) We'll, it excited resent
t ment.
\ @. For what reason?
o A. Because it came from Mr. Wendell, will
whom had not been on terms OF close intima
il cy, and who had been Mr.. Buchanans steady
t opponent before.
n c. This was the ground OF your objection
d at that time
|. A. That was the ground Of my objection n
II the time. But ought to add that | could Sc,
, no reason why so much money should be olIcret
o 30 get me out Of the country.
o @ What want to get at is whether yOt
Re regarded the proposition us an improper one
,s a dishonorablc one, such as one gentlemen
IL ought not to make to another7 Or whethe
your resen mint was founded upon the tact tha
il was such an offer as you ought not to re
= ceive
= A. de ire to say that in the spring or sum
~ mer of 1857, | said that was willing, in orde
~ ~ TO show to my lrieuds that | was not desrou
= of making trouble, to 60 to Liverpool tha
: place having been held by number OF distn
% guished gentlemen. it could not have been
=, dishonorabe proposition because of the place
!" but it was IL dshonor BILE one it was Il dsgra
- dation to me, as have just stated, inasmuch a
4 it was made for the purpose mentioned
70 @. You do not app'ehend me, think
u spe,k of the offer of the place IN connectio
~ with this $40 900; di you consider ;hst dis
IA honorable proposition
~ A. Yes, sir; did think that dishonorable.
% q Did you know the value Of the POST
d office blank PRINTING!
=, A. BY common TumOr only.
O. Were you not aware Of the value OF tha
, printing during Mr. Pierce'S Administration ?
: A. Well, sir was generally aware of it, hu
70 only from rumor.
- - @. You never had any connection with tha
- printing, then
A. received portion of it, but did no
:. know how much it was worth.
. q. How much did you receive?
Q A, | do not know that.
@ Who did the printing during Mr.. Pierce
=, Administration
q A. Judge Nicholson had it, believe.
= @ How did YOU come TO get portion o
. the Postofice printing
= A. think | received on- third or one ffll
i" - of The proceeds of the Postofice blanks
" @. Do understand you that you canno
recO llect the amount OF your portion?
A. | cannot
;. @, How came you to get part OF The pay
ment for il?
:. A was an editor OF the Union, and wa.
, partner with Judge Nicholson.
@. Were you Clerk OF the House Of Repre-
u sentstivps during the whole term o. MIR. PieIcei
- Administration
A. Yes, sir.
@. Whit portion of that time were ycu ed
/. itor OF the Union