New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-11-23

thin not.
Suppose II were Great Britain that had yiola...
some comrac, of agreement with the General Gover.
mert, what world be first done In that csse -
MiristeI would BE- directed in the first instance 80
brig tie matter to the attention Of That Governran,
or COrnmist Toner b. sen to that country TO ooer
gators with her. ask r redress and il would onIy -
Tarl nnf nj and reason had been va, ~
We should take the last resort ~ nations. Thai Will
Re the course toward a foreign Government and -.
wards member Of this Confectionery would rcso,.
nerd the ZANE course
Let us therefore not act hastily in Ills matter IA
your Committee on the State Of the Republic maLs -
lii Of grievances; LEI it be sent by TIE Governo,
hose faithess States, and il reason and arQnn.,,
ball be- tried in v9n-sll shall fail 10 induce them =,
return TO their constitutional obligations / woDld =,
for retaliatoTy measures, mcb the Governor b.,
sucges.ed to you. This mode Of resistanee IN N.
Union IL in our power. IL might be efectua and h
in the ast resor we would be justified in the evs -
nations not only in separating from them, but By uns
force.
ISome one said the argument was already az.
Lausod.l
Mr. STFpHEss continued-SOme friend says tba..l.
argument is already exhausted. No, my ffiend h /.
not You have never called the attention Of The IAo
islatures Of those States TO this subject that M
aware Of Nothing has ever been done before ,hls
year. The attention Of our own people has been called
to this subject lately.
Now. then. nv recommendation TO yon w0nH IN
tfs In view of all these questions Of dHcnhy, IA.
Convention Of the peOp Of Georgia be called Owhi
they may be all referred Let the sovereignty Of de
reonle sneak Some think that the election Of NJ,
Lincoln Is cauee sufficient TO dissolve the Union Sons
think thOse other grievances are sufficient TO dslvs
the same and that the Legislature has the power As
to act, and ought thus 70 act. have no hesiiinya
saving that the Legislature IL not the proper bdy I,
sever our Federal relations, If that necessity oun
arse An honor bic and distinguished gentcul-. Mr..
It. r. r. Cobb the other night, advised you q, Ia
this course-no TO wait 10 hear from the cTOs--asAz
and groceries l say to you sou have no Pov.' y
TO act. -
You must refer this question 10 the people, az q
,nnst wait 10 hear from the at the crossrgl s1
ven at the groceries; for the people In this corl,
whether al the cross-rOad the groceries, wheer n
cottages or palaces, are all equal and heyaro ia
sovereigns in this country. Sovereignty II nQ ibs
Legislature We the people, are the sovereign.
am ore Of them, and have right to be beard, and =
has any other citizen Of the State You SegEl ~,
sreak Il respectfully, but our servants. iJu as
tie servants Of the PEOPLE, and not their stegs.
Power resides with the peoI lie in this country.
The great difference between our country and N
otters-sucb as France, and England and Jplaad d
that here there is popular sovereignty While thss
soyereignty is exercised by Kings and favored cass
This principle of popular sovereignty, however muh
derded lately is the foundation Of our institutions
Constitutions are but the channels through which re
popular will may be expressed. Our Con-'itutha
came from the people. They made it, and they aota
can rightfully nnmake II.
Dir. TooMbs-I am afraid Of Conventions.
Mr.. STEPHEss-I am not afraid of any Converts al
legally chosen by the people. | know no way 20 drE
eide great questions affecting fundamental laws EXCEPT
by representatives of the people. The Constitution n
tie United States made by the representative. II
The PEOPLE The Constitution Of the State OF GeorgiI
was made by representatives Of the people chosen a
the hallot.box. But do not let the question whiA
comes before the people be put TO them in the language
Of my honorable friend who addressed you last nigl
Will You submit TO Abolition rule or resist
Mr.. ToosBs-I do not wish the people 10 be cheated
Mr.. STEPHEss-NOw, my friends, how are We going
10 cbea; the people by calling on them to elect delgx
to Convention to decide all these questions withO1
the people by letir gthem speak their untramned
views in the choice of their abest and best men, ri
determine upon all these matters involving their peaoe
tbirk the proposition Of my honorable friend bad
considerable smack Of unfanes not TO gay cheat. He
wsl ed to have Convention but for the Legislstur
to submit their vote to the people, submission 70 Abo
ton rule or resistance Now, who, in Georgia, woaf
vote 4" submission to Abolition rule J" [LanghterD
l. putting such question TO the people 10 vote o.
fair way Of getting an expression of the popular VIZ
on oil these questions / think not. Now, who iY
Georgia is going to submit to Abolition rule
Mr.. ToonBs-The Convention will.
Mr.. SIEPHEss-No, my friend, Georgia viii nevsl
do it. TIE Convention will never secede from ..l
Georgia Platform. Under that there can be no Abel
licD rule in the General Government 1 am not afnil
to trust the people in Convention upon this and al
questions. Besides, the Legislature were not eleca
or such purpose. They came here 10 do their dail
az Legislators. They have sworn TO support the Co1
stitution of the United States. They did not eoue
here to disrupt this Government. am, therefore, III
submitting sl these questions TO Convention II .hs
people. Submit the question 20 the people, whelh9I
they would submit TO Abolition rule resist, and hal
let the Legislature act upon that votel Such oogrs
would be an insult TO the people. They wonl have ~
eat their platform ignore their past history blot ol
their records, ard take steps backward II they sh0
DO this. have never eaten my record or words adj
never will.
But how will ii be under this arrangement II the,
should vote TO resist, and the Legislature should eas
semhle with ths vote their Instructions Can sng
nan tell what sort Of resistance will be meant Oz
would say seCede; another pass retslatory meas
ures; these are measures OF resistance against wnR
legitimate and rght-and there would be a. ussrN
different ideas ne there are members this hcor. Bel
distance don't mean seeessi0nthat in no proper sns
Of the term is resistance. Believing that the snes "
quire ecien, am for presenting the question sldyy
the people for calling together untrammeled Cal
vention, and presenting all the questions to thsd
whether they will 20 out Of the Union or what coa
Of resistance in the Union they may think besi ss
then let the Legislature act when the people IN 9s
majesty are heard, and tell you now whatever Is
Convention does, hope and trust oar people WI
sbide by. advise the calling of Convention VIA
the earnest desire 10 preserve the peace and hsns
Of tie State. should dislike above all things TO al
violent measures adopted disposition TO take ~
sword in hand by individuals without the authory1
law.
MY honorable friend said last night, At ask yea \
give TIE sword for If YOU do not give il u ne,
God lives, / will take it myself
Mr.. ToonBs-l will. lApPause on the Other sie
Mr.. STIPBESs-I have no doubt that nv honorsM
friend feels he says Ii is only biz excessive srld
that makes him use such expression but this "
pass of with the excitement of the hour. When q
PEOPLE in their majesty shall speak, have no doA
that he will bow TO their will, whatever il msy N
upon the "sober second thought" lApplause
Should Georgia determine TO 60 out OF the union,
speak for one, though my views might not agree VIII
them, whatever the result may be, shall bow 10 80
will Of her people. Their cause is my cause and ,h
destiny II my destiny; and trust this will be the u
mate courfe Of all The greatest that can be4
a free people is civil war