The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-03-21

Don DO ck&GG6rascu, u was Wnosoer Som opportunity
should be taken, when serious question rased a.
.ecog relations country and the whole OF Eu-
rope WIN frsace express sns assent o. the House OF
lord the relations Of England with France we're 10
dered more n,tmate and close The question OF far
greater importance than the of small portion
OF territory affecting the Independence sec ry Of
Switzerland for IL smpcsrsd tie relations Of France ach
CLAWS and ne policy Of Frd.ce me honorable member
for rsmworh bad called attention TO the terms OF
portion o. tho treaty, and the Aonstn~ had shera a
Of stu more ominops import - namely, those |
referring TO the natural limits OF France Therefore, the
one consequently, in which the House OF Commons was
deeply rterested He wished ask under these crcnm
~ FssroA 'nS s ,,o ra
'to did Wot vegayd the policy Of the extraordinary man ,oto
no'o ruled tie destsnies y France nh aarm aear hear
totdTds frdxce ur fear aud tre lo1s single Fo,oer
in Eu'ae prepared take the tntsairs They looked for
tha, purpose to England, where there was free
took the nitistive they would be sure follow But
what the position Ia which the noble lord hal put enc
GopnEy la place OF using language OF emphatic aud
uDnchDg character the form OF sproest he proposed
that the country sho Tia enter the discussion Of
mercia treaty with France, 70 parade England before
Europe closer alliance with Francs than ever to
make appear far possbie that there was an
Identity Of policy between France and England. that
iNr take, tho language OF re-
onstrauoe ABOUT blot on the scuche OF the house OF
Savoy the cradle OF race what require cd by
the case, but earnest an energetic protest England
boond by the isith Of solemn treaties with Austria,
B
alike to the neres, sad the peace Of Europe
not 10 be met with sham protest Hear Under these
crcur stances he suggested that the consideration OF the
French commercial treaty should not take place by the
House until the House had hat opportunity OF
pressing decided opinion tho subject OF the
alton Of Savoy and Nice to France. He had doab.
that, by some mrans other, opportunity might be
them on Monday next, 'ns noble Lord might proceed
with the cons Iteration OF The clauses Of the Commercial
Mr. Baicnr-I assume tha. tn, language OF the
honorable gentleman Who has jnst sat Gown, ia the Ian
Ruaee OF the right honorable gentemsD The member for
aud Of the noble Earl, Who, Ia aaotaer
place. toe leader Of their party. Tne honorable ge6tc
pap, when be held office ooosucted the business at hts
department In highly satisfactory 70 the House,
which makes the regret the remarkable change
that BIAS taken place in hn since he has sat upon the
poei'ion beEctes. do not know that ever heard
speech With mere ssocshtneut and pain tnsD the
which he has just delivered. (Cheers aud ''oh.) DO
not ask the honorable gentleman TO please mo Ia hts
speeches, but do ask those who address the House
consider the gravity OF the question, and 10 en-
net to iupart into 1t, go far as other
countries concerned, any unnecessary Irritation.
('Hear hear, add "oh' from the opposition II Is
quite obvious that the commercial treaty is to
honorable gentlemen opposite but asS whether i, Is
manly 10 feavor when that treaty IS on the
poist Of being concluded by the rattle atom Of the honss
when Throughout country has been but one
voice regarding II, and that Enthusiastically IN is
favor-to associate with another question: which may
may not be Of importance really but which sariy
las In soDe elem ants likely to create irritation here,
and perhaps elsewhere. Cheers There may be mauy
gentlemen hero who have strong feeling the question
OF Savoy brt so, what do propose 70 DO DO you
propose ont of the hands Of the
!
anything In the papers which IL creiitabe noble
lord at the head OF the Foreign ONCE Minister which
is not honorable to the Crown of Eng and the so Of
the house open you you not pro nose motion
With regard TO these papers, You give notice that
eredsble to their sasacy or animated by due regard
to the interests OF the country and then let have tho
question, discussed and ba,iled out II you Can curry
your motion yoar great object doubt will be gned,
for tho government will be ejecsed and you will take
their places and theo when you sit these benches,
presume tina, by the force of you will be
compelled carry out precisely the policy that they
have been adopting. Cheers and laugh.) There are
not few persons in this country who regard the
pursued by the right honor be member for ,kiuxham
shire-because, no doubt he prompt, the viruous nig
Of the honorable member for Horshamas oae not
tevoid Of considerable peril ! the taken by
that party IN 1858 and 1854, and there was not an
! bity be suggested that not used against the
Aberdeen cabinet and more especially against the
Earl Of Aberdeen himself, with the view OF ds-
maging bis government though II caused the
greatest risk Of and did in the end contribute much
TO make the var Inevitable. Cheers, and SOB, Oh"
the public, who would prefer an alienation from France
consequences of another war~rssber than they would
the growing friendship between the two peoples
been nesotaied agree very much with the right
honorable member for Bucks that you carry
shape Of parties have objection what are called
great party fights and there thousands Of subjects
all that sensiblen the narne of all TIA, is
humanein the name OF al that is just TO manknd-et
like that wSh Been rssS s. Of
ons which grow by this kind Of discussion, and which
soon acquire magnitude beyond the control OF those
who first originated them. fCheers) you conceive
.ourslues for moment Je IN The position Of France. and
this qtsion Of Sarcy English question, being
posed 10 it, AJAX you i te ssea ,ee taen up BY france
The hich has discussed here and the sam.
sort OF menace employed the honorable gentleman
made use Of ehehr at cosd not Dc prcciseIv he ;n1
,ohieh ood make Tie annexation Of Sar'y absolutely inert
toIes (Hear, bear understand the honorable gen
ttemQn that should 9th
the treaty Of commerce until this question Of Savoy be
| settled.
Mr. BRIeHr-Md misunderstood the honorable gentle
| man ,thens
| Mr.. FI1zGxxNp-Yee
Mr. Bmcnr-rhen resract what said with regard to
IT. but the tone Of his observations led that conclusion
and what the object OF tying NJ these questions
together unless one depends the other Hear hear
am persuaded that nothing could would more GER
taniy endaneer rupture with France this House
to pass resolution that woult the treaty
with France until the question OF the annexation Of Savoy
had been settled That question am now going to
| discuss 1t is Of those which 10 my opinion Rad
much better not have been stirred but being stirred
concerns France and Sardinia and the people OF Savoy
eIia interest it not concern us at all, and we feel M
interest in except as matter OF sentiment that had
rather nobody begun to disturb existing lsndmarks
(Hear, hear) 1t would, In my opinion be impossible
for the Governor OF great country to express what
be wishes in more fair and open language than that
which was read short time since by the honorable
member for Bridgwa.er The honorable gentleman ad.
med that il those words the oaly ones used he
1sc cAac'y Wow mat take (Hear, hear.)
rom Mr. Kingake) but those are the only words whic5
refer to the action OF the Emperor Of French The
other words relate 10 opinions 10 wishes and rights
but those words which the honorable member read are
the only ones which refer to what the Emperor would do
C'Oh, .Oh," from the opposition If any gentleman
opposite feels aggrieved, let him bring forward specific
resolution. The noble lord the head OF the Foreign
OBce WILL no Doubt be able to defend himself and par
lament will be competent to Judge between them but
mplose the House not TO show the country they
prefer party embarrassment may be- party vic.
tory and Tie part break up Of the friendly yss, be-
t,oeen is country and France TO according n area, trs1y
on ehSh ne People Of EneIdnd teliere st their farsco
mercsd ttercSs, 20 ryy considerable ezfs1t d.oud.
! (iear, hear) have not risen TO defend the govern
ment; but when question Of this sort is made the
ground OF attack night after night say that you arc
sacrificing The infnr nf