Cleveland morning leader. [volume] (Cleveland [Ohio]) 1854-1865, 1860-12-28


placed Ia conflict between these tWo2 He
must Of necessity be guilty Of treason 10
one or Che other, and Do hanged any way.
Mr.. Dooliitle said he could not. There
was no act ofa State making treason which
is in conflict with the United States Con.
stitution. II doeSnot make treason, though
the State declares 50.
Mr.. Benjamin asked what advantage that
could be 70 the citizens.
Mr. DoOlittle said the citizen must act at
his own peril. He went on to argue that
It was not In the power Of the citizens Of
State TO annul an aoi Of Congress. II
nation can dissolve the connection Of the
Federal Government II one State can
secede from all the rest then all the rest
can seoede from the one which gives power
10 expel State, 60 the right Of seces-
sion involves the right Of expulsion. He
referred to the war Of 1912 and the Hart
ford Convention, and said il the doctrine
was correct the New England States
could have resolved themselves out Of the
Union and gone ever 70 the enemy, and
taken the fortresses IN Boston HaFbor and
other forts, and turned our own guns
against US or if now in time Of peace
| Pennsylvania should withdraw she could
cut of al the mail routes and We could
not 60 from New York 10 Virginia without
crossing a foreign country, and SO with
| Illinois. tt
The people Of the.NorthWest could not get TO
New York. lie then argued that the States of
| Florida, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas which
| the government bought, paid for, fortified and
/ admitted into the Union, had no right to 20 out
now and become foreign power. He claimed
/ that We had given the social institutions Of the
EarHfh Nu1n lnFH HfasaT fffarH
had acquired. He claimed further, that the Con
stitutiOn could not repeal the law OF Mexico In
the amount Of territory acquired Of Mexico, and
give the right to take slaves there He Id If we
wanted peace We must allow the free territories
10 remain free, we must have non interference I'm
the States and non interference in the territories
Mr.. Benjamin said he did not desire TO speak
now because we should have the procical ques-
tion before Us In q few days The issue would be
plainly brought, whether we intend TO recognize
the withdrawal Of, or make war on State.
Mr.. Brown said 1t seemed that Northern Sena.
tors overlooked the main point nt issue We
claim that there Is property in slaves. and they
deny It.
Until we can settle on some basis for this oues
ton, It is idle 70 talk of peace He claimed that
the doctrine of non.recognition Of property IN
slaves ! new doctrine. He said the South
had S4 ,OOo oOo In this kind Of property. Is it to
be supposed that the South would consent to live
under government outlawing this kind Of pro
perty. Can millions at the South consent 70 live
under government as Outlaws-Only recognized
hope Of changing the Judgment of Senators, but
there were some stubborn facts which might well
come to the knowledge oftheir constituents He
referred 10 the treaty Of Independence as speak
ing Of negroes as property. If gentlemen, they
were willing to 90 back aud live under that trea.
~ there would be peace.
he referred to the Treaty Of 1872, as recogniz
ing the same property signed by John Acami
and j. A. Adams. Were gentlemen wiser thar
those Statesmeng He read from a book pu blished
in Boston years ago, and eontended that the peo
pie then recognized the rights of property. Ar,
men wiser now than our FathersY But If tn,
Government continued TO outlaw the South
there Is only two ways-seperate by peace or by
force. He said the South wonld not take les
than justice, nori asked more. They recognized
the right Of the Government 10 protect the pro
perty of the North, but the North would not re
cognize the right of protection to the property o
Ifthey persisted in the idea that the Govern
ment would not recognize property in slaves anC
protectit, then, standing IN the high presence ant
before Almighty God, he declared the UnioI
could not last ninety days. he then asked tina
the statute of New Mexico, which was INTENDED
by his amendment to extend over the territory o
Arizona, be printed In the report so that the peo
pie might see what he meant
Mr.. Green said his object was 70 organize gov
eTnment fOr Arizona and he hoped these discus
sions of political matters would be postponed
He did not think the amendment of the Senate
from Mississippi practically amounted TO any
thing under the present circumstances. H.
would vote for II. He quoted the law alllowinl
slaves to be sold for government claim, as re
cogaizing the right Of property but if this idei
were intended TO be forced upon us of non-re
congnition Of property, we had better go home
adjourn Congress, and dissolve the Government
He compared the Senators for this idea of equal
ity, to the fable of the stOrk and fox The foy
invited the stork to dine, but had soup in shallow
dishes and so the stork could not get any. fhj
/ next day the stOrk invited the fox to dine ant
had food IN long necked jars He told the 70,
/ there was perfect equality. and 20 help himself
In fact the fox could not get anything. lie de
I MED the right Of notification, but claimed tn,
right of secession, and argued against the coer
cion Of State. He argued against the amend
ment of the Senator from Illinois, Mr. Irumbull
Mr. Doolittle said the Senator from Missouri as
eumed that the Constitution repealed the laws o
Mexico, in this Territory, and took slavery Their,
This was contrary to the decisiovs Of The Suprem
houn, that the Constitntion recognized slave pro
perty, found few supporters al the time Of its an
/ nOuncement.
Mr. Mason said Mr. Calhoun was dead, but he di,
tiOn establishes slavery, but claimed that slave
were property, and therefore the Constitution mus
Further discussion snsued between Nessrs. Gree,
and Doollttle, when the Senate adjourned til
Monday.
Mr. Logan = Ny colleague was treated il
an Indifferent manner
The Speaker-l I'm sorry If that's true
Mr.. Houston raised the point that this was no
a privileged question; II was not affecting th
privilege of any member here.
Mr.. MeClernand-l was cut of the other daJ
ungenerously, 1t is true, but the example is no
worthy Of being followed. I appeal 10 my col
league Mr.. Logan, to withdraw his objection.
Mr., Stevens, resumed, and re-read the Herald
Of December 2tth in which it Is stated that the rob
berry Of the Interior Department has caused som,
are deemed iait that the defalcation Of bonds ha
been going on since the commencement Of the Presi
and Secretary Cobb knew exactly how these bondi
were 20 be used and for what purpose; that thes,
bonds were deposited as collateral to raise money
in behalf Of the Breckinride Club.
Mr.. Stevens said his attention called to thess
dispatches last evening, and they seemed to be mat
ter Of sufficient consequence to arrest the attention
Of the House.
It was lis fortune to bo Chairman Of the Breckin.
ridge Club, and be did his entire duty according
the best Of his ability In the premises. His heart
In the business, for he believed be was striking
blow for the honor Of his country and the perpetu
ity OF its Institutions but there a most false
and columnious assertion on the integrity Of me
Club. Although lie might not be known 10 fame.
and faced death in the ascharge of his dtitvP Ia
repeated, in the presence OF the men who knew the
iactsi who had him In the Valley Of Mexico in
the van Of Victorious egions he did bis part TO plant
our banner on the palaces Of the MonteZumas. He
pore the wounds OF the service, which, physically,
He had in the Northwest faced most savage
foe, and on the Pacific exerted his utmost energy
TO make the wilderness blossom as the rose He
repeated here that It was most false and malic-
lous slander pr0pagated on an honorable body of
men, and which required most severe rebuke
! he never knew these bonds had existence till the
| TACT OF the robbery was made known this morning
! AlG NuAAIulAu OA the otleCE Commit
tee, asking him to probe this matter to the bot
tom, SO that punishment may fall on the guilty
party
In relation to the article in the Boston Herald.
the Speaker said, 1t appears on investigation the
young gent Informed him to-day, that these words
were interpolated in Boston. showing disposi-
ton most foul 70 SANDER for base political purpo
| ses and TO break down an organization supposed
70 be adverse to that Of the Editor. In the World
/ the words lit is thought appear in connection
WIN me slander and this Is TO censsre the reputa
lon OF honorable men who were exposed to the
irresponsible attacks Of the foul and hlthy herd of
men VINO endeavor TO cast their slime on men on
y OF the Committee, If they can to stop this de-
famatOn OF character
Mr; Morris, Of illinois, said Fthat Mr.. Stevens
caue9 on MN this morning and expressed his de-
sire that the subject be thoroughly inyestigated
De mad, as the Chairman, informed him that he
mad no control over the matter but would lay the
matter before the Select Committee ieovfn q fbar,