The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-11

slave trade tno~ng clearly insl he recognized slaves
as men He could not see how, after that
any enc could get up and say that be
oia nos mean 10 asser, the equality OF all Nj
Dcome then pointed Out the desoating effect OF slave
on,nre Within sight Of the Capitol, In the county
mich washington had MS estates land had been reduced
ION 'eiulsy 10 poverty. The population declined, aud
we very church IN which Washington worshipped had
is.eh 40 Decay and become asylum for
sI. MASON tdem OF Va. said the Senator had been
gosehpe on hls manor land in Fairfax county had be-
Gene npoyer-ned ~ the culture OF tobacco the popu-
stion however bad largely ncreascd Az 10 The church
ne regarded with hlal reverence His ancestors had
@ ,nsIs Y. had been put in good repair and
fabric resulted from the influx secarsns who had got
The advantage He would take TO say that when
he wasSin New England he visited Plymouth and found
wilderness where they hunted bears and wolves
Mr. DooIIrTis said the neghborhood Of Plymouth had
always been barren and uncultivated He had pointed
out that lands In Virginia. rich and cultivated had
been impoverished by slave culture He would ask the
Senator from South Carolina that was not the effect
slave lab0rp
Mr.. CHESTNUT, (dem.) of s. c., replied that in all new
countries they went on new lands in preference re-
case. He knew in South Carolina of old lands producing
more than they did twenty years ago Agriculture was
advSnong IN oouih Caronna az muCn as IN any S'ate IN
very part in the Declaration Of Independence referred
by the Senator from Wisconsin, was stricken out by the
Mr.. DooLnrz said he intended to show what Adams,
Jefferson AMI Franklin meant The clause was stricken
out in compliance 70 the representatives OF South Caro-
lima and Georgia, who wished to continue the slave trade
He had desire to reduce the Gulf States 70 the cond
ton Of San Domingo but did maintain that the negroes
could be colonized in oongenal climate they could
live out Of . state OF slavery and attain TO state
Of considerable civilization He pointed out Liberia
: suCce,su, experiment ana read from tne
Of the West Indies not deplorabe represented
Mr.. Dooe then advocated the Homestead BILL In the
course Of his remarks he said would enable the poor
white Of the South TO escape from system under
which it, ablest advocates admitted capital the alb
solute master, and held labor captive.
Mr. w'GEAIL (dem) Of Texas, asked II he referred 10
him.
Mr. Doonnz said he referred 10 the views expressed
by the Senator from Virginia.
Mr.. HUNTER, (dem.) OF Va, explained that he referred
in his remarks 70 slave labor only BE did not TO
say mat capital st the South owned white labor.
Of the slavery question were proposed The first was
the emancipation Of the slaves and the establishment Of
perfect equality That might be called the John Brown
solution. The second looks 70 the acquisition OF Cuba,
Mexico Central America and tropical America, in which
overbaance the Caucasian of the North and North
west. That was the Southern fanatcal solution The
third solution and the only wise and practical was
the colonization and deputation Of the blacks
70 some place where in suitable. climate,
they could work out their own developement
NJ MASON wanted 70 know how this deportation 70
Mr. DoolI1ns thought we managed the Central Anne.
roan States kindly they would themselves open lands to
Mr. HAMMOND, (dem.) of S. c. said that gentlemen on
the other side need not trouble themselves with the sou
Slavery always 10 stand as it now stood and was TO
advance with the desnies of the South 1t q matter
OF nderence what people North thought the subject
Mr. D0oLrE said he did not intend discuss the sub
ect In an offensive manner nor TO discuss its existence
IN the States He spoke with reference to Its extension
Territories.
Mr.. HAMMOND said the South would not consent To be
restricted as TO her expansion He asked all the States
had not an equal right In the Territoresf
Mr.. DoonTlE replied that citizen OF South Carolina
and citizen Of Wisconsin could enter Territory po
sition of equality.
Mr.. HAMMOND asked il both ought not to be allowed 10
Mr. DooInTE replied at length contendng that slaves
were only property under the laws OF the States where
existed like oorporated company, which was regulated
BY State laws
A colloquial debate ensued.
Mr. WADE, (rep) Of Ohio, inquired what question
before the Senator
The CHAIR replied Homestead bill Haushter)
Mr.. DoolITrII said that playful remarks
vert him from reply In conclusion, he said the Home
stead bill measure was for empire and for all gene
rahons
Mr.. MASON said the Senator was right in calling this
measure of empire. 1t proposition popuating free
design Of the bill was 70 Aid a. great engine Of political
power TO get the republican party In possession of the
government, The end Of this usage Of this bill would be
then operate on slavery in the States This policy had
been fairly and honoraby stated by the Senator
measure 70 obtain political power TO operate against
slavery.
Mr. DooInnx asked the Senator was not in favor OF
popuating the tropics with free negroes of the United
Mr. MASON said he could not conceive greater curse to
the white to the free negro than To send the lat
ter there. Slavery only elevated them
Mr.. WILSON, (rep) Of MASS said that free negroes in
tie behind the white people They could read and wre
and attended schools, but there prejudice which
weighed against them. He believed the negroes Of
the North and South had made marked progress In few
years.
The Senate, without taking any action on the bill, ad
j0urned.