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Gazette and sentinel., 1860-12-29
From the Chambers (Alabama) Tribune.
Look upon this Picture.
SCENE I.

White House-Washington-Mr.
Lincoln, (R~ailsplitter) President of the
United States, and Mr.. L. of Alabama,
slaveholder.]
Mr.. L. MAY it please your Excel
lency, n of my Northern brethren has
run of a slave boy, my property, Git
please me well, chuckles Abel and
have positive information that this boy
is now i'll Massachusetts. AS the local
laws Of that State prohibit my entering
therein to recover my property, I~humbiy
appeal to your EXccllency to enforce
the Federal laws in my behalf"
Old Ate lchuckIimg). My dear sir,
| am very sorry politically, you un-
derstand) at your loss, and | will see
what can be done in the matter. Call
again, Mr.. L., in q few days"
Ezeuns.
SCENE II.
Same place and characters-some
days afterwards
Old ALc. Smiling behind his pocket
handkerchief My dear sir, it is with
deep regret constitutional and Presi-
Dental, Of courSc) that ] have to in
form you of the absolute refusal of the
State Of Massachusetts, u deliver up
your property"
Mr.. l.. And must |, sir, quietly sub
NIT to the loss of $1,000, thus stolen
from me, aud with all the proof in my
hands, when a act of Congress express
~ provides that il shall be rcstorcd!."
Old Ate. Il am afraid you must, sir
my tears political and crocodile) bear
witness to tie deep sympathy Cover
the left which | feel for You, but IRE
ly You, a Southern man, would not have
me coerce a sovereign State. No, sir,
nothing can be done-good morning
sir"
Exit Mr.. L., pond"ring and detected
old AJe. Soliloquizes, rubbing his
hands, "Ha! la! COOL idea, Expect me
to exercise my powers for the restora
alton Of his slave, when my party has
sett,d me here expressly for the pur,
pose of dcpriving their of all
that species of property. la! ha! ha!
Next session, If all goes well with the
irrcpreSSible conflict, we will have abol.
ishld that Internal law, and | shall no
more bc obliged L play the ~hypocrite
with these tclluwS.V
Gazette and sentinel., 1860-12-29

. ISM Nj SHIRT CLEAN" quoth one
pDoneulia1 TO another. well yes" was
we "lPs clean for brown but
us a~faF dfy for white
Gazette and sentinel., 1860-12-29
Secretary Of State of Southern Conlederacy.
rrrrrp IT
LETTER ii.

To his EXcellency- Secretary Of
State OF the Southern COnfederacv:
SIR: duly communicated the facts
of the case mentioned in your note of
the-to my Government, and have to-
day received a reply from Mr.. Lincoln,
in which he legs Inc to assure You Of
his modification that any of our citizens
should have been guilty of such a base
act, and TO inform you that he immedi-
ately took measures to bring the per-
petrator to Justice and recover the boy.
His efforts, / am rejoiced to add, have
been crowned with success. The boy
will be duly handed over to your com
missioners in accordance with the pro-
visions of the late treaty, and the thief
V now is suffering the penalty of his
turpitude.
! have the honor, &c. -
Gazette and sentinel., 1860-12-29
CTATE OF LOUISIANA-PARIsH OF
y IRFRvrLLE-GIr JUDIcIAL D'sT. CoURr.
Eliza Patrick, wife, Is. Theodore
Johnston. husband.

sA's ''''N
johnston, husband.
No. 1881.
IT, this rasn ? uIgreu; ~ default having been
reru,ariy taken. and H." GrtrrHdut having JAILED
f. ne an answer wir5,1 the legal d-,ay. ard by
reason q, the e~yilai:a d'luc-l aud On iie. and
ib. Eaw naua rtia'rr at IL" r'aiutiH aud against
the 1c ,rdars: T. = q ds.e! o"d decreed that The
y aIurT Eliza Pa mex. recover OF he defendant.
Iu.nanT. Johnston tie SUM OF one thousand
and s,xty.uiue collars aud fity GEMS, with legal
iu,e,e., nom TIE II n iay at July leo. until
mid: and that piaintri have a legal mortgage.
TO dale rom tue l7tn DAY OF fIarch 1919. Oh all
the property o. Defendant ioT the payment o! said
sum.
And i, is further ordered and decreed, that
Plaintiff be and she Is hereby separated IN pro-
per,y from her said husband, Theodore Johnston.
and hat she have the sole and exc uslve control,
management and ADMINISTRATION OF her separate
property and estate, and that the community
heretofore existing between the parties he dis
solved, and that defendant pay the COSTS OF TIN:
suit. pANL a'Ehi
Judge Oh Judi. District.
O.t Of iScO
Gazette and sentinel., 1860-12-29

Etat Gsia Loujtiapc-PdrOiSS dIberrae-
Cour Ga 6eme District Jadiadirs.
Dams Ia Succession de feue Pauline
Grover.
4 TTENDU que Chs. A.. DesobTy, a ce jour
y pIesent6 en- cetle couf "a petition Il lstect
d'obtenir des le',res d administration de Ia sue
cession de ieue Pauline Grover.
Avis est par Ie present dome a toux ceux que
eel, conceme De deduire sous dix iours de Ia
date de ce present les raisons rour lesquelles il
he serai, pas iait droit a la dite petition.
Iberville, lie % dDec. 1860.
dec29 VI. A. ESTEVAN, Grefher.
Gazette and sentinel., 1860-12-29

STATE If LopisiQna-PariA Of NerriHe-
9TH JudiciaI District Court.
In matter of Estate of Pauline Grover,
decd.
WHEREAS: Charles A. Desobry has this
w day pe'itioned tbs court. for letters Of
administration in the estate OF Pauline Grover.
decd
Notice is hereby given 10 all whom il may con-
Germ 10 show cause within ten days from the
date OF the publication hereof why the prayer Of
petitioner shuu't no, be granted.
IberyiIlc. Dee. -. 1860.
dec2o N. a. ESTEVAN, Clerk.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

Mr. GARTRELL said that no blame conid atta e 70
the Democrats for nonoresnzation. ino a;bia
acted here are but the beginning oil inc a;a, bn.
conflict" of which they heard so much-a colhies og,
tween oppospg forces-a conflict between tne Nor'n
and South Il war TO be waged on hileen olates VI
this UDiOni if they are to be delhed tue so'e nm onb
Of the Constitutions il the property OF the ooIn
Il IN he taken and its surrender refused nthe prhecs
of the Republican party are Sill 70 10 ina GU
Te;r rnInoseg accomplished if the South by C0ngres
sional or OTHER centrvanee are, ny nnieny
,;on 10 be deprived OF full participation III tno Son
te;,ories belonging 10 the people OF the Ihted
no for one WAS free ronfess that the House u oo
ter moi organize. If you, Republicans, ne Su, ao
determined to continue your aggress?n', 90 i yonr
nose IN do ON our rights; if you VIII not s.ay loIu
hand. II YOU are determined that this cohnc' sna'
come; then warn you, and those WHOM !vyI ;h bon
sent 10 beware Of the dangerous gronhu vi miiy . d.
stand The South mnst have theii I AZ Tbev viii en-
stitutiopal rights nothing ese Will DO. Inc! VIZ,
force he demand 10 be treated as p9i!tlcai
otherwise The Union will be divided ihto as iiI ~
payts as there stars on the NhuoIIa s,barn reo
pTocee6ed to show FIRST what rights the cou'nein ~
IL sn;o, az 10 slavery; second, that these rg1'S
resr sacred and high, are not only ,hIes'eIeo,
holdly dsrnpIy and wfuly aSsaled 1y tne h1Pu a.;
can party He would announce no ond IN those
oCTeebe as il might be 10 hsconstltuen's ana 70 o
~ ,nsnv others that if this aggression coh'luos no
neople OF the South will be compelled, ~ every nt
Die Of Justice honor and n farcibv
psrv lie of The Unon-Ieaceably If they can ior'ipy
sei HASKJN. during his speech, asked Mr.. Garrel
whether if the doctrine OF Judge osm
ha acted on in the Territories, be would therefore c
the Tiehi 10 secede from the lnion; ,rhO,bsr Mr.
M %as The champion and expounder of Republican
doctrines! I'm ,he.eon.rary
he was an antagonist TO the Repubhcsn doctrine y, ' ~
nc In the Territories for the prevention OIL
sIsvery az be was TO the new-fsngled Southern DOC
~ intervention for the protection of slavery.
S GARTRE replied that was a;ooG "S xsn & 6c%.
lion for the C9u 30 lar .. is aR and unqualified
syeT DC obt the people Of any Territory by unf,enay
~ me or taxation or any other way TO deprive
,ss South Of their rights to property in the Territories
which na.e sW ~ a. L., n. ~ wished 10 know u
a., MI 10 be- inherited as new plank at the Charleston
| Convention IN nem. GAY repled: II you
wsnt Know whs, the % Ts there provided
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

calamity. In ten minutes the whole mas Of ruin
has be- ,ome one sheet Of fame. The screams and
mosnipQ. of the poor buried creatures can be dis
timely heard. but no power can save them.
The flames threaten the destruction Of the Wash-
inpton Mills. an 4 the bridge over the rver.
Hait:po,t one clock am The Pemberton Mills
are now q block Of Amokirg mas. Brick, mortar,
ard human bones are ,oromiscuously mingled. Pro-
baby not less than two hundred human beings
persisted in tho flames. The Gre made quick work,
burning not only the rcsas Of the building as they
10y dat but extending to The material that had in
kindness been removed.
The Washington Mills are IN CREST Jeopardy.
The round being towsrd Du ck Mill, whose counting
room almost touches the 4oemberton, it may also
be sacrificed.
1ro o'clock, a. m.--Through the almost super
human exertons of the 6reme.', the Washington
Mills are now considered +, be outof Danger VI
the Duck Mill, the prospect 10 not good. Every
thing that can be- Done is being done. Fire compa-
MES are present frsm all the neighr'oring towns
Between forty and sfty physieaDs ars in attend
ance at the City Hail and other place =, wherever
the injured aeed their services.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

TAe Express says that George Briggs was elect
"ed to Congress to bold the balance of power"
Our recollection is that he was elected to
Congress BY Republican votes on the express under.
standing that he would cooperate with the Republi-
cans in organizing the House. If it had been sup
posed that be would effectively unite with the Dis
union Democrats in preventing an organization, he
could not have been elected.
Let nobody imagine that we are blaming Mr..
Briggs for ignoring the pledges given on toe occasion
of bis election. Circumstances have changed since
then, and IS an independent man, guided by the
light Of his own intelligence, he must obey the
present dictates of his judgment and conscience.
Eut don't let us hear auy more of this nonsense
about the balance of power.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

ing them to the sense or nonsense Of its readers
Ola similar character are its srgumeuta!ive prop.
ositions generally.
When 1t leaves these, and rushes into the effort
TO DO terrible it illustrates its contempt of its read
ers' understandings in still more significant man
DER. Its pictures off public men, and public events,
and public affairs, are an so marked with exaOcer.
alton and caricature, that every man of sense who
reads them is apt to regard the whole represent
alton as covert satire on the party whose cause
The Herald nOmiDaly advocates. It's fulminations
and anathemas become az ludicrous from their
grOssness and sbsurdty that at length the whole of
its solemn OhurgatiODs are perused as the hight Of
farce, In this point of view we have set down
The Herald as standing at the head of the comic
Journals 1t accepts the imputatiOn as a compl-
ment.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
Legislature Of New-Jers,esy;;0 70,
TPEsToS, Tuesday, Jan. !

TPINTONJ IucFudy, V"'.' = -.
Roth Houses Of the Legislature organneu. ~ Tue
senate the following were the elections; ~ =; y.
Clifford OF Essex Presidents Col Eauel r:sr As.san,
s sse1etary Vim. H. Van Norhwick Of garli Ia1
EnoIos,iug Clerk; Sergeant. alarms, '' IL S"e"i'
All these gentlemen are Democratic; 4. .xc,,as Mr.
In the House, motion was msoe ~ ~ The ground OF
SovinS been convicted Of conspiracy rnls was ~
Iced to be CONSTITUTIONAL ground Inc oor aod ,wors
~ allow ali the motions made on the subject ana s"0's
In Mr.. Johnton under protest, ,,,h xss s,eetet
Mr. A. .n n u d. Bauyelt Of Essex Clerk. The,
spsIns s5oepsts. +. A. Acton AM was elected In
ossns Clerk and John hosg ,S sbs H pcnocrss
keeper. Tho Americans o yO'Su oi Ss
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

We are glad to perceive that our suggestions on
the subject of the formation of Campaign Clubs are
having an effect. In Westchester they have already
organized Republican Campaign Club, composed
of three delegates from each of the townships, who
are to meet at White Plains tomorrow morning at
ii o'clock, to arrange for the organization of Aux
iisry Township Clubs. From what we know of
the men who have the matter in hand, we are con-
fident that Westchester will be thoroughly can.
vassed
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
Fire i'm Duneannosa,, Penn.

DUEcASNOS, Penn, Tuesday, Jan. 10, IS6U.
The extensive nail factory owned and conducted by
Duncannon Is miles above Harrisburg was destroyed
by FIRE last night. The main building, containing 90
mach nes total wreck and 300 persons are thrown
out of employment. The loss is about 0oo and Is
fully covered by insurance in Philadelphia The
waier-wheels, dam, and the Pennsylvania Railroad
bridge are all safe.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

withdrs' wing Messrs. Clark's and Gilmer's re,o
lutions whs.- it was discovered that Mr.. Hamilton
could not be ele,rt'ed fearing that Mr.. Sherman
might appropriate the oppSc,tunity TO make poin'
by exposing the Interpretations against him
Alter statement BY Mr.. Joy Morris, to-day, that
Mr.. Sherman desired the chance, and that it must
be conceded. it was discovered that Mr.. Hamilton
OF Texas had been member of the Know Nothing
order, after Northern and Western Democrats
were committed 10 him on the record. Mr.. Barr
deserted him yesterday for that reason.
CONSUL TO HAvRE.
Francis j. Grund was rejected as Consul to
Havre, but a motion to reconsider was made aud
Is pending In any event, Mr.. Vesey will be re-
moved, and Elijah Ward appointed, if Mr.. Grund
is not confirmed.
MINISTER To FRANCE.
Mr.. Faulkner was to-day nominated TO the Senate
for Minister to France, as predicted month ago.
Dix is shelyed.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
Boston Itenas.

BOSTON, Tuesday, Jan. To, 1851
Charles Ellis, President of the Howard Bank of this
city, died Yesterday, at bis residence IN Roxbury.
rrue +. Young an old offender has been arrested in
this city for passipg counterfeit ives the Conway
Bsnk Of Massachusetts,, and the Mechanics Bank Of
New-Haven, Conn.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

PoRTLGSD; Tuesday, Jsa. 10 ID m.
The Canadian Mail steamship Hungarian, wltich left
Liverpool on the 2sth ut calling at Queenstown on
he Goth, now due here, has rot yet efeignaled.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
The Cortina Disturbances.

CHARLEST0N, Tuesday, Jan. IU, lob.
The Charleston Courier's special NewOrleans cor
respondent is advised from Galveston that Gov Hous
ton has appointed two Commissioners to proceeGto
Brownsville and investigate the origin Of the Coraa
disturbances.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
Robbery.

FRASKFoRT, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 1860.
Mr. G.. A. Wthers, Superintendent of the Covington
and Lexington Railroad had his overceat stolen from
the Capitol House last night It contained ak drafts
for IS 600 each.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
Alabama, EIecfiOuA.

MoSTGOMERY, Ala, Tuesday, Jara TO- 1850:
Atriangular contest for the vacancy in te Legisls4
t-re ia going o. Woods Southern Rights 0ppositiors
is largely ahead in the city and will probably be
elected.
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
PennsyIsania, Politics.

HARRISBURG, Pa, Tuesday, Jan. Il, 1850.
The Democratic County Convention met toby, and
elected b. j. Holdemau and George Bowman delegates
to the State Convention with instructions to support
the Hon. Jacob Fry Of Montgomery County for
Governor
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11
Te the Associated Press.

WASHINGTON, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 1860.
The City Council apprehending that Legislation in
the Slave States sgant free negroes would have the
effect Of increasing the number of that class in WASH
Dgton, took inatory measures to prevent such mmi-
grafton, but recent authoritative exposition of the
city charter shows that il gives power of prohibit
toD end that Legislation on that su6ect must be con-
fined to prescribing ia advance such reasonable terms
and otions Of residence may tend to repe the
idle ana disorderly.
The President to-day nominated to the Senate Hon.
Charles j. Faulkner, of Virginia, as Minister to
France.
The Senate confirmed all pending appointments made
during the of Congress, and Ex-senator Brcese
as Marshal of the Northern District of Illinois
MIR. Crumbs nomination as Consul to Havre is not
definitely acted upon.
The bill introduced by Senator Gwin yesterday pro-
vding for the Territorial government for Nevada is
the same as that reported in the last House of Repre-
sentatives.
The United States Agricultural Society will COM
mence their eighth annual meeting tomorrow in the
Smithsonian Institution
New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-11

man named James CrsDgals. hsng from Columbia s. c.
w~ arrested By the police last night for giving vent Abe
ton sentiments While In state Of intoxicslon and In
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13
PlcKENs COURT HOUSE, C. SATURDAY, OCTOBER ls, 1860
choose her own time of attacking the revolu-

choose her own time of attacking the revolu-
tion.
SUMMARY PUNISHMENT IN SYRIA.-NIil-
itary operations in Syria would commence af-
ter the hot weather. Achmet Pacha, Osman
Doy, and Mustapha Bcy, who betrayed the
Christians at IIaskya, and Osmen Bcy, who
commanded the troops during ,he massacrcs,
were shot at Damascus on the Sth
FRANcE.-Thc Paris correspondent of the
London Post telcgrophs that the statement of
an attempt on the life of the Emperor Napo-
lroH is totally unfoundcd
Adumor was current in Paris that Count
Fcrsigny will shortly follow NJ. Thouycncl in
the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
The Paris Constitutional gives cateogori-
cal denial to the report that the islands of
Sardinia and Elba are to be ceded to France
as indemnity for the annexation Of Naples
and Sicily to Piedmont.
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13
5Ea SO TED POETRY,
The World Harvest.


They arc sowing their seed in the daylight fair;
Iicy are sowing their seed in the soft twileht.
They arc sowing their seed in the solemn night
What shall the harvest be?
They ale sowing their seed of pleasant Thought
In tho springs green light they have blithel,
wrought;
They have brought their fancies from wood and del
mhcre the mosses creep and the flower buds swell
Rare shall the harvest be
They arc sowing the seed of word and deed,
Which the cold know not, nor the careless heed,
Ol the gentle word and the kindest deed
Iha' have oiest the heart in its sorest need;
Sweet shall the harvest be?
Ana somc are sowing the seeds of pain
or late remorse and in maddened brain
And the stars shall fall and the sun shall wanc.
Ere they root the weeds from their soil again
Dark will the harvest be
And some are standing with idle hand
ict they scatter seed on their native land;
And some arc sowing the seeds of care,
Which their soil has borne and still must bear:
Sad will the harvest be.
They are sowing the seed of noble deed.
with n sleeplcss watch and an earnest heed:
With ccaseless hand o 'er the earth tbcv SOW
Ana the helds arc whitening where'cr they 20
r Rich will tho harvest be
Sownln darkness, or sown in light,
So%n in weakness, or sown in might,
Sown in mcckness sown in wrath
Anthe broad work field. or the shadowy path
Sure will tho harvest he
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13

or banners in one hand and knives or swords
in the other, like SO many mad Bacchana-
llans, only they were not drunk, except with
JOY. and newly found liberty, and they stop
and hug or kiss, aud then rush on till they
meet with other crowds
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13

1t will lingor in the memory, lasting as the
principles of its people, bright as the eyes of
it's fair daughters, graceful as the waving
boughs of its bossoming trees, delicate as the
shading of its tinted roses and fragrant as the
flowers whose perfumcd breath loads the pass
ing breeze Fair Columbia = Floral Queen
of the South II lift my hat to thee.
uV IT II
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13

Tns most fascinating women are those that
can most enrich the everyday moments of exis.
tsnce.. In aparticular and attaching sense, they
arc all those that can perteke Our pleasures and
ner. Beauty is little without this. with it she
is, indeed, triumphant
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13

PoETs make a book of natu.e, wherein
they read lessons unknown to other minds.
even as astronomers make book of the
heavens, and read therein the movements Of
the planets -
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13

A YOUNG ensign of regiment, residing
In lodgings, the sitting of which was We.
rIy small, was visited by one of his fasfiiopa-
Die trends, who, ON taking leave, said.
+" Well, Charles, and how much longer do Won,
mean to stop in this nutshell 2" To which
nc wlttily replied, Until become kernel );
Keowee courier. [volume] (Pickens Court House, S.C.) 1849-current, 1860-10-13

= a RoNAScE-RgADIsG young man was one day
passing mnirland farm, which was half COW
covered with furze and heath and fine back
groundSof bafreE rocks and dark pines He
said "a the farmer who was grinding his way
through thefugeed earth. g a magntfcent To-.
eality, sir leone Of Nature' tsmp6s Ian en-
b9diment of poetEyp /" Oh, yea,J said the far.
.aer; wipsng the large drops Of ofpesspirahoti from
bis brow, the poetry Of the place is vary weel,
but IL ye had to plough up tho prose Of the
ground, Jed wish tte poetry far cnopgh''
Delaware inquirer. (Wilmington, Del.) 1859-18??, 1860-02-04

The Genesee Farmer says SIR. H. Brown,
Of Greece, informs us that he fed his cows early
this Spring with three pints each per day, of
Indian corn and white beans, ground together
in equal parts. He never had his cows do SO
well on any other food; they gave large
quantity of milk, and the calves were the finest
he ever raised. This food gave the cows a
good start, and they continued in good con-
dition during the summer, and afforded an I'M
usual quantity of milk. He says he shall sell
no more beans, but feed them to his cows.n
The KIND OF SEED JoRN TO UsE.-W L. Nor
gan, of Potts, Warren county, Indiana says
that seed from the butt end of an ear of corn
will ripen its product all at the same time, and
some three weeks earlier than seed from the
little end OF the same ear. He recommends
farmers always to break their seed corn ears
in two in the middle and use the butt ends
only for seed.
CATTLE YARDs-Catte yards should be well
Uttered with refuse straw. 1t absorbs the
liquid and prevents much of this valuable part
of the manure from running to waste. It aug
ments the quantity of the manure and adds
largely to the comfort of the stock A dry,
sheltered barn-yard, is pleasant place in win
ter--you will be inclind to spend considerable
time there-and we know cattle and sheep
thrive much better for being "looked" at