New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-05-30


the Judge reminds me that have oens said to him that
the institution Of Slavery has existed for eighty years
in some States and yet It does not exist in others,
agree to the fact and account for by looking at
the position in which fathers originally placed it
restricting il from the Territories where it hadnot
gone and lepsating to cut off its source by abroga
ticn of the slayetrade thus putting the seal of egls-
laton against MS spread. The public mind did rest in
the belief that il was in the Of ultimate extinc-
ton. But lately thnk-and in this charge nothing
on the Judges motives-lately think, that he, ana
those acting with him. have placed that institution on
new basis which looks to the perpenfy and nation
a-afon of Siarry And while IT is placed upon tins
new basis, say, aud have said, that believe we
shall not have peace upon the question until the oppon-
cnts of Slavery arrest the further spread OF IL, ana
place II where the pull mind shall rest In the BELIEF
that II is in the of ultimate extnction or, onthe
other hand, that It's advocates will push il forward until
il shall become alike lawful in all the States old AZ well
as new. North as well as South. Now believe If we
could arrest the spread, and place it where Washing
ton and Jefferon, and Madison placed it, ii would be
in the course of ultimate extinction and the public
mind would, as for eighty years past believe that 1t
was 10 the course Of utu ate extinction. The crisis
would be past and the institution might be let alone for
hundred wears if ii should live 70 long, In the states
where it exists yet it would be going out of existence
in the way best for bot the black and the white races
ga Voice Then do you repudiate Popular Sover-
eighty
Mr.. Lncoln-Well, then, let us talk about Popu-
lar Sovereignty What is Popular Sovereignty h
/, the right Of the people to have Slavery or not have
Il ~ they see fit in the Territories will stateano
have an able man to watch me-my understanding is
tina, Popular Sovereignty now applied to the ques-
ton Of Slavery does allow the people Of Territory to
have Slavery if they want to- but does not allow them
NOT to have Il if they do not want it. do not
that if this vast concourse of people in Territory
of the United States, any Of them would be obliged
to have slave if he did not want one; but do say
that as understand the bred Scott decision, if any
one man wants slaves all the rest have no way of
keeping that one man from holding them.
"Whez mad. nv speech at Springfield of which
the Judge complains, and from which he quotes, L
really was not thinking ofthe things which he ascrbes
to me at all had no thought in theword that was
doing ANYTHING to bring about war between the Free
and Slave States. had no thought in the world that
was doing anyhiDg to bring about apolitieal and So
cial equality ofthe black and white races. 1t never
occurred to mo that was doing anything fayoring
institutions of tho various States. But ust say, in
all fairness to him, he thinks am doing something
which leads TO these bad results it is the better
that did not mean it, Ii inst as fatai to the coun
,ry if have any influence ia producingit, whether
Intended it or nos. Bus it be true, that placing
this institution upon the original bass-the bass upon
which our fathers plaoedt-can have anytendenoy to
set the Northern and the sosthern States at war with
tan1o 10 10
the people Of Vermont raise sugar-cane because they
raise in Louisiana that /, compel the people of
Illinois to cut pine logs TIE Grand Prairie, where
thsy win not grow, because they cutpiAe logs in
Maine, where theydo grow The judge saYs.t this is
new principle started in regard to this, question.
Does the Judge csim that he is working on the plan of
the fsanders of Government think he says in some
os hs speeches indeed, 1 have here now-that he
saw evidence of policy to GLOW Slavery to be south
Of certain line, while north of should be exeuded
aud hs saw an ndspctio1 onthe part Of the country
to stand upon thai policy and therefore he sc. about
Studying the subject upon, original principles, and
upon original principles hs go, up the Nebraska biz
L am sighting it upon these original prinsiples'-
fighting it in the Jef4ersonan, Washingtonian, and
Madisonan fashion,
The doctrine Of Mr. Lincoln is thus seen to be
hostility to the perpetuatiea and naturalization of
Slavery, and the restriction of that pernicieus in
sttntion within its present limits. This would
place it where Washington, Jefferson, and Madison
glazed tin tina way Of Ultimate extinction By the
operation of natural causes, and in the peaceful
legislation of the people Of the Statesswhers ii ex-
lists. Such is the orderly and conservative policy
of Abraham Lincoln and of the Republican party.
1t was the policy of the great men in the dayswhen
there were giants in the Land. If eur aduersaries
can make any thing ont Of it, let them do so.
EGlsLARIyG RX ROAY.