New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-06-18
FRAUDULENT NATURALIZATION PAPERS
William Harms called and sworn


BY the Charman-Where do you reside A. In
Reading, Pennsylvania.
@. What is your occupation A. have been con-
tracing for the public works for number of years
A. did lid ~" ''''D' meaning 'D' al low
Q. Did you at that time receive quantity Of blank
naturalization papers from Philadelphia A. Yes
cir; received some blanks at that time.
O. How did you receive them by mail, or express
in what way? A. think come few came to me by
mail.
Q. Did they come 10 you under the frank of any
persons; and if so, under whose A. think one
two under the frank OF Gov. Bigler, and some
came under the frank Of other persons but am not
positive who they We're. Gov. Bgler's frank is the
only one | am positive about ] think there were per-
haps, three packages sent and one Of them know
was under the frank of Gov. Biger.
O. Were there large quantities of these papers sent
10 You A. No, Sir; there We're but few.
q. How many did you get all together do You think
A. Well have sad TO persons that had 800 or 400,
but that is not So looked them Sunday last,
and discovered that there Were perhaps 200 or $50
al together Some of them had what purported TO be
the zeal of the court and the signature of the prothon
9tary; others were mere blanks
q. Did you make application TO Mr.. Salade for the
use of his back office? A. No. Sir; did not.
@ Who sent these papers To You from Philadelphia!
or handed to me in person by him; j am not positive
which, have been trying to recollect whether he
gave them TO me in person, or left them at my house,
think they were left by Mr.. Brown at my house. At
.. Did you not receive letter relative TO the TO
be made Of thenl 4. / did.
Q. From whom was that letter. \. There was
signature to it.
q. Were there any initials TO il 4. II was signed
90 az the bottom Of the letter.
q. Did you not know the handwriting of that let
ter! A. That letter compared with another that
had from IA man in Philadelphia, winch was signed
Brown"
O. Reuben +. Brown A. Yes, sir
g. Did YOU know the handwriting Of that let
teri A. ] thought the handwriting the same as
that signed 4" Brown"
q. Did you not know from other circumstances that
the letter from Mr.. Brown A. Yes, sir; ] be-
eve the letter was from Mr.. Brown think he asked
me aferward if had ga the letter.
q. Did the letter state where tbcee papers were TO
he used A. No, sir.
Q. Did you know where they were to be used 4.
No, Fir
q. Did you not know that portion of them were
TO be used on the Union Canal enlargement among the
lIish A. No, sir.
z. Did you have any conference with any one rela-
lVe TO these Irish being supplied with these papers
A. 90 not recolleet OF any conversation as 10 their
being used on the Union Canal that is only may sup
position; | bad then come 80 men employed Cd the
canal, and ] supposed that tie object of giving me
these papers was Tor them; ! did not know.
Mr. Ninslow-l wish it to be understood that | do
not think this is evidence but do not object TO at all
BY the Chairman:
q. You say that you did not know that they were
papers, what impression was male upon
your mind when YOU saw them with the seal of the
CONT and the signature ofthe pr0hOnoary upon them
A. / did not know that IL the seal Of the court.
q. Did You not know that II was Irregular that YOU
could not I'll in the name of a party IN The country in
papers with the seal Of Philadelphia upon them
on say that you did not know that they faudn
lent papers A. did not know they were fraudulent
q. Did you not know that you could not in Berks
Ounty I'll in the names Of parties IN papers prepared
n Philadelphia? a. Certainly; but my impression
was that they not fraudulent until they were
illcd up.
BY Mr.. Tram:
9. You knew this that if you had tbose papers with
genuine zeal and signature, would be fraudulent
ne Of them 10 fill them upi y. Certainly thar i
What iuean; these were not filled up the view |
ook of il was that unless they filed up by insert.
ng the names Of persons, giving their places OF
Dth &c. they would not be fraudulent.
By Mr.. Whlslow.--Q. You looked upon be papers
= being genuine blanks, aud the seal of the court
nd The signature of the prothonotary as also beng
enuiDe 2 A. That j cannot say. ] looked them
yer Sunday, and there are two kinds OF sigma
nIes them. There IL a kind which think likely
the signature of who parliamentary al the
me they were Issued; it looks like q genuine
enalnre. in examining those signed Fetch |
~ inclined 10 think they were not all
rten by one person; il looks TO me though that
gnaiule written by different persons; however,
am not Judge enough Of that 10 determines bg those
'P"'d " Vineyard" or "NiDgard, something OF
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