The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-14

vote upon IT, II the New York Conference did
upon the matter now, they would have no vote
General Conference.
Rev. Dr. OSBORN remarked that he should be
believe the vhoIs matter rs dead and buried, W
for The fact that they were put upon the record K
the Providence rule had Q small minority st.,
side OF an overwhelming majority against II ~
natl resolution gained majority OF i've and 4
the position Of the New York Conference uDan Il
q is,icn, where they never intended To put IT, i
as the New York Conference had been placed
omaoas position he should prefer II they could =
the eflect OF those votee, for wrong impressions
made upon minds not familiar with the actual'sta
ING IN those conferences. He Or. Osborn) pertt
CURED with the doctrine OF Mr., Ferris substitute
thipg IN reference to slavery should originate
neral conference. All our troubles spring out
and have foyeseen for q long time, said he, tn.
Of the Methodist Episcopal church is more enda
an attempt to enforce uniformity OF administr,
parts Of the country. 4
Rev, G. r KErrKL said he did not consider
the rules that had been presented had er
stronger or more emphatic declaration aga il
ihan Vas already contaioed in the DisciIy
the resolutions passed by other ciL
were an iguous, and incapable OF q general O
sion. Tne language or the Discipline was sin)
phRtic and distinct. TIE brethren said man n
and sell men, women and children, with the ind
ensiaye the m, and that those things must combi|
the riavehol,er could be arragned under that
Vhe speaker) really thought that that conss 4
sn invention. He never heard any body put 81 s
s'roction upon It, QLaugbter.) The plain,
meaning OF the rule was that the buyinp or
anybody was against the Discipline; and what
was to be gained by a change of the ruler
not make the senee OF the church or of the Dh
clearer by slteringit. Last year, said he, we \
singular piece Of logic presented, aud whici
posed to have had considerable in luence. DR.
said that the object OF the Cincinnati rtile n
change the Discipline. II was q conservative n
had been put forward by conservative men, al
tended simply 10 let II be known that the church |
her declaration against slavery, and was not II
charge the Discipline. II we want q new rule
press something more emphatic.
DIR. CLARK rose TO correct the statement, Whic
Intentionally wrong. He Or. c. said on the
luded to by Mr.. KKrrEL that % he understood
pine that rule gave expression TO his (Dr. c.
standing OF It,
Mr.. KETTEL resumed his speech. he took q pI
man 10 be person who thought that slavery W
itsel while conservative man was one who
II justhable to allow 1t TO remain under the Giro
until they could do better. He pronounced him
seryatve man. Was man 10 be turned out
because Of his connection with slavery? If IL
TO hold slaves, then tho y had no election b 1t to
man out Of the church who commits this sin
brethren who assumed il was Sin said that tho
wish to emarcipate all the slaves at once, The
that they might remain unemancipated was, I'd
the acknowledgment Of no sin. They
10 decide one way or the oiher. The cor
must be taken into account, whether it IL right
In us to set ourselves up In the face Of this inst
istiDg in the land, and turn man out OF the Cd
was connected with II? That was the real quest
them. They wanted no change in the Disciplin|
was required. There was q great deal OF a
rhetoric and pious defamation upon the SIN an;
OF holding slaves. It seems to be everywhere
because there are moral evils connected with eli
the possession OF slaves IL sinful. I assume
may be Elm necessarily connected with an iusti(
IT does not follow that tn It h sinful Take In
relation. Who can deny, IN the imperfect d
society and of the human heart, that there are
growing out Of h9 The Christian Sabbath Is
the cause Of Elm In great many cases-such al
drunkenness and gambling. The whole quest
the moral character Of slavery itself. There is
ing itself to all conditions Of hu man life: end vt
with slavery. No man denies that there are
but does that prove that the relation Is necesss
We must arrive at that position before we turl
OF the church. The Oft repeated pla,itude, thai
owes man living, was false. On the cont
was An original right in society TO demand ID
on compulsicn from any who were nnwillip
for themselves. In all Christian la.
those who are incapable or indisposed to labo
selves. 1t was claimed In the case Of vagra
ystem Of compulsory labor In the State OF Mas
IN the workhouse, compulsory labor was rir.
naaded It was enforced also in the case Of i
controlling and Of selling him into service until
~ one; and the master had the right by fore
bring him back and compel him 70 labor " he
co not mean to say that this Ia identical wi
but 90 mean to say that they embody this pri
recognition Of the original right, under certa
stances and under certain forms, TO compel
thoee who have not the disposition or oapac|
without compulsiOn. The question is Whethd
smopg US four millions OF persons belongings
wbote capacity ana disposition 10 labor are,
eatt, doubuul-whether we have II In our p
continue 81 stem that imposes compulsory
tbemp All the rhetoric that 70 expended Is
system Of American slavery. The speaker de
ssrfion that Shareholders o~n the bodies
men. Il is q falsehood. All they own is
make them work. Under ancient systems
they cid own the bodies of the sleeves. ~
mans used TO cut them in pieces for their
young men OF Athens cut them up for anuse
ing them IN their streets. The question only
ine original NOR atty OF slavery-as TO the pro-
ton Of the masters right to the slave; tina
whether they are race who have capacity an
eiton to labor, and whether they are race.
able or wiling to render 10 society a retur
which will nt them for civilizskionS whether
race which, If liberated, will not be curse
anu impose upon US the necessity Of suppc
without labor? ] am not juHtifyipg the IN
Slavery am rot pro slavery manebut /
Inc face OF the consequences which must resull
ting free four millions Of paupers a OF yerx
ment. Are we committing sin by allowing thef
AZ they areY The history OF Africa itself e
own civilization, nor to his elevation, nor
or Intellectually. Other nations have
sOlaen sges; put africa LIES slumbering In
uIv,uen ner vast domains there y NO mark
sSlvlhza,,on nor OF present ACTIVITY. What can
iouI mtilons o. sucn persons IN our midstS
tena tnem oacK iet US 40 IT, The question
transport four millions Of Africans into the
civilized land, and let them bs the same ha
Iney are IN their own hnds The sin Of transpt
Ies1 upon otners. Inc negro the same Ia
Stner GSont ~ Al the Sanstcs show that
~ .a1spaD'e sasns csfe u himself Could q
~ e1ow .no ssss y. N the
S nne Essmouy n.% oe.vIe sae namsn PArliame
xnow.eoEeo " sne Mene:s autnCaStes IN val
-! %er1. ~ Soes W snow IN. one nAL the CIV
s Se Wes' tnuEs Mas " ss.se u ouSn: Y was
n.s we 'rse negIoeS WeIe Iazy "a SAh<ica
miDgo: Iounsans rOvertuls, VINO N1
coi0Ie0 OF oiacx man, ne!Nutea messu
ensIave tne whole OF me nDerated.
~ FEAST, OF me measure was to DO that. III