The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-17

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wrong 70 hold slaves. and you pst ewsy he mi
guilty of yeur doinss e Church toak - oaIy private
ssd ps whereas they ~cs e. v@y no e sSo
excited mObs 70 drive Northern mpsers chen thew
ven; there, 70 preach. lthe BISHOP latsrrupssd tins
rule his speech was out of order
Mr. B.ows sad the substitute sad sssa ,ss. sxb. Of
.esry acgethee = the COURSE Of tho debate He asked
they ought 70 take stop further o. this subject fac
aesn nterrupked but proceeded amid load cries Of
On me ctviiizaatos ot the 10Th century vas
Of Tho slaves Of tho wes Indies by the Esxlisa vas
glorious success not Withdrawing the statements made BY
osnsr spsakers and tse efforts Of public
men 70 suppress theltght WHAT pity that Mr. Ketsels
logical argument had mot been based upon fsctsl
NJ KnML wondered Why facts so clearly allowed were
Mr.. Brown quoted from the Quarterly R>visy 10 show
mat prosperity had foloweJ, ssd did follow emancipa
Won n sns wess Indies as read tbs closing p.agrsps Of
uneushed posts In the government ami in professional
life, therefore refusng toe charge made BY Mr. Keel
aeked they should persist in refusing 10 take any
In this matter when the Dddel world wore avor1g the
for twenty two years ago they could not GET an sr Gle as
long as their finger In the Osristsa~ Advooale few
Methoass brethren went To Utica aad agitased
rcxoved by the Bishop for 90 doing. Is had
been said action we're taken upon this
more attached TO slavery than 70 the church, It had
been eaid that mot Ooly in tho border but 1t the
North ne &C Church would BE- DIVIDED would be si.
century had not intelligence and moral power sufhcent
To enable Il 70 MAINTAIN ieek
Rev Mr. GRsrlxss he had heard enough upon the sub
jec and was anxious 70 vote. II they had speeches
on the substitute where would they wind up whsn hsy
made odsy would not uaueuoe single vote "A' '0'A
The BssaoP old MOI wish the New York Conference 70
get tho reputation Of being dsordery. He hoped the
brethren would keep their teats and maintain order.
Dr. MccINTocx was very anxious to cay feW words
upon this subject.
Rev Mr.. CRAwroRD said they ready now.
but II Dr. Mccntock wore permitted " 60 they could
not
DR. CLARK moved that the Conference sbouli hold an
afternoon session, which amended by q motion to
extend the session They resolved to hold Afternoon
SESSION and permitted Dr. kcCiintook to 60 on with his
Rev Dr. McCINrocx then took the floor and addressed
the Conference. He said that II mposs for tho
brethren 70 talk up0o the question directly before them
without implicitly directly touching upon slavery For
bis own part be believed that God Almighty hal laid upou
man the law Of labor He believed that slavery sprung
from desire on the part Of the human FREQ
serves from this law by imposing these burdens upon
or people That was, 10 his Judgment the whole phos0
ply OF slavery Aristotle taught that slavery vas the
natural and necessary foundation Of human society He
coua nos agree win Aristotle on that point though he
wss very great man. He (the Doctor) believed that
msn was SPIRIT and that spirit could not be epslaved ex
cept 10 the curee aud ruin Of the community op
that when any proposition to change the Law OF
the Methodist Episcopal Church brought to thu Con
that body TO record his vote upon that proooson rhs
dd not vote conferences upon such propo
but they voted as members Of great body Of
thodf ministers, and the votes counted the
General Conference the votes of individuals Every
member Of every conference mad right record his
Ss organic .@ o q. Ssnsa:
Episcopal Church, and II that right were denied,
ministers Of the Church At any time 70 change Tie apds
nal law, thereby nuifyng that essential elementary
principle Of the organis law OF the Methodist Episcopal
Church that vote Of three ourths OF the ministers shall
be recorded in favor Of any such thing along with
Of twohrds Of the members Of the General Conference
Sas sn.' pees s q
the course proposed BY tho friends Of the substi
tnie was sanctioned, precedent would lOs estab
hshed which would not only Affect the question of
slavery, sbut other important measures The next
reason he assigned for offering the substitute was, that
the same me to hold the Conference TO its express
csions of last year upon the Cincinnati rule Tho ques
the ~hsser CS,oae Of the ru sas
BILE or Do the voice Of the New YORK Conference
to be expressed in any way st ALL they ought TO have
directly upon the question Are now Al this session
OF the New York Conference Immediately preceding the
Gencra Conference In favor Of change Of the general
The rule Of the Discipline, snow stands, reads thus:
4 There 10 only one condition previously required OF
those who desire to enter into these societies desire
u flee from the wrath to saved from their
siDs." But Whenever this Ii really fixed In tue soul It
al who continue therein that they continue to evidence
their desire Of salvation This desire be evinced 10
Of eold or costly apparel &c and The mint rerss
In the Erie resoution) "The buying and selling of men,
women and children with intention to ensave them
This substitute comes up directly or indirectly upon
that point The word prohibit" In IL looked a. IL tue
brethren desredA change In the general rule he
could not understand how any measure could pro-
hibon 1t not rule. II they mean TO incorporate
change in the cnspter there othor place to put
exceps II tne rule. he put 4 70 Ir Ferris whether
ulc
DR.. Moct1moox turned to Rev. Mr.. Paul R. Brown, and
;hange Of the rule on slaveryf Answer up aud down"
r. r. Brown repied-I am in favor Of change Of rule
Dr. Mocunocx-Of course, you all design change the
rule In q constitutional manner.
The BloP said the hour tor adjournment had arrived
hereu the Conference rose 70 the debate 81
three O'Clock.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
The Conference met In the afternoon Dr. HOIDrcH con.
Quoting the religious exercises.
The examination Of the character Of ministers was pro-
seeded with for hour, after which the order Of the
iay-the slavery queeton-Was resumed.
Rev. Mr.. FERRIS said his remarks had been misrepre-
sented by DR.. Mcuintock He simply wished, by pre-
the trainers Of It meant prohibited merccnSry slave
holding in lis spirit but he wanted the rule TO be altered
90 that the meaning will not be equivocal.
Dr. McCuSocK insisted that Mr. Ferris really in "a
vor OF new rule Mr. Ferris wanted change 10 the letter
Of the rule and he DR. NcC wanted every vote
upon the question The Speaker ssd openly and fsiriy
hat he was opposed to change IN the rule, and he
wanted every man 10 say "yes 'uo," and "let the
best men win" He hoped that the Of justice the
New York Conference would reject the substitute He
houe they should have vote the Erie rule,
he majority of the conservative conferences had rejected
The voice u the Conference would be strong against
my change Of rule and he was, therefore, anxious
ave them vote sganst the Erie resolution Every man
Who was IN favor OF the substitute efectlsly voted In
svor OF change Of the rules and every who spoke
favor OF the substitute voted against the Providence
'uie Tue providence rule prohibits slavebodingl
Mr.. FERRIS and Others corrected the Doctor |
They did not DO so except Rev Mr.. whea,ey.
DR. McCIlSTocK resumed-He charged that those who |
voted for the Oncinnat rule In favor Of change Of
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