The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-02-22


Dear witness that great opponento Instructions
~ my friend fiom MonIoe Ia friend 70 Instructions;
tus Dirocoec harmony into this meeting accepted tics
lSboic ohcf, ana / never will believe the gentleman
rom Monroe Orr cbapman) VIII be driven from his posi-
noa - sAy remarks made BY any gentleman oa this
door (Appeuse) Tho gent einan from Bedford speaks
hbou. fear There is but tang earth that fear,
Dear defeat OF the democracy ia tbs next
canvass (AIplause) We are going into war, not as
WIRE men, Or iion,er or Dougss men, but going
INTO wAf with South against the North and l do fear
Any thiag that splits the vote OF the South ami
tfat democ' alto party. OF Virginia that has never
the scene here last light could resist feeling Of
tbs bead while look any man in the face ss ana On
God have responsibility for creating t. The man
who responsible for Il u the man who would Introduce
an pnoys n,o the party, and ask for instructions
from irresponsible Convention 70 endorse him. Ny
fear proceeds from this I have that fear, be-
cause would have s no Oonntos'Ga s 81 principle
terrain that fear. (Applause.) Now, have made
. proposition 10 the gentleman from Monroe (Mr
He offered propoUuoS heard by . thousand, and tina
PROPAGATION was accepted BY me- and my acceptance was
heard BY thousand men This proposed acceptance
stand by his own words hope this convention viii alay
this exo'eGen and lot US have vote-(appAuse froa
the Wise land lei this question or instructions be
pudiated and discarded from this body.
Mr. CHAPxAS-I just wish 70 say str that this resolu
ton cannot be Withdrawn without the unanimous oons,a
withdrawal aud that being 20, cannot be Withdrawn.
(AppAuse ..,,. -.
gentleman from Monroe threw down q. olive branch 70
this Convention, sprsng from my seat and told him
would help him alAy this excitement and unite tho
oonfusioD) he knew, sir, as ven as knew, that i
the power OF the opponents a this resolution 70
cant take Vote" Go on, Harvie.'J be knew sh:.
those who introduced tho measure here alone quiet
4 Vo,cr-s. rhav can't covnsvD uya.r nm tha n.> ~
He knows. as well As know, that, like him,
crss Of "Good, RArvis. And he Knows that ss' we
will wage TO the knife against that resolution II il
pressed (Applause, and great oonfasion) We never
viii die except by having the vital spark driven out ZAP
piause Nov, the gentleman had done what he said he
would have done, bis friends permitted Withdrawn
this hrebrand--we would have been here band OF
brothers. and would have left determined to elect
Henry wise he the preference OF the Charleston
Convention. Applause. "That's the doctrne") Ba.
viii submit TO this Convention giving the benefit OF
m expression Of preference 10 any one. (Appiause)
Hoe can you expect unity and harmony when you do an
ACT Of injustice, believe, 10 the majority Of the demo-
cratic party daughter and onical cheers from the Wise
Why does the gentleman rely upon his outside in
formation, in reference 70 which he seemed disposed to
make some statements Why does he ask US here for
voteY Why don't he sor al his point and lethis Con-
ventiop express no preiersuceS
MI CnArMAN-l must have vote on this substitute.
loud srpacse.)
Mr.. RARvB-When he has got vote upon this substi-
ute he has eot to have another upon his resolution
y
what you don't give As to the result OF the vote
upon the proposition now before the Convention,
dare You to ,ry it, and great CONFUSION ~ W ~
Mr. HARvIE-H You insist upon having this fraternal
eight, Coo knows deprecate it,
Hr GooDE-Iet US face the music and have the vote.
(''Hurrab for Wise, the3rbune Of the people.o
Dir. HARvig-You cannot take tho until appeal to
the democracy Of the State stand by and resist all Of
forts this organization for man. (Applause)
am FOR aiAying the sorm but you SOW The wind,
shall reap the whirlwnd.
A VpICy In that uoFt ho
will OF the majority OF the people Of Virginia, in their pri
mary meetings assembled, s sufficient Justification to
press the same preference here?
Mr. HARyIE-I don't consider that any such majority
has spoken upon this question. DO think that, for
ing to create impression thai Virginia speaks when
Virginia has refused TO speak The polticians-thAts
good" "Go it. Harvie.'O Now you have got your
swer. QAushter) And tell you, sir that when this
Convention, without any authority SPEAKS will appeal
TO the people Of Virginia against this unauthorized express
voCy-You had better not 60 before the people You
are dead If you do (Appiause and great excitencnt)
Mr. HAEvnI told you you can do nothing here, and
even though should succeed getting expression Of
opinion, it would fall stlborn in the State. You but
damaging the prospects Of your avore by these efforts
TO use this organization in manner in which you have
right TO It.
Senator NEWMAN. OF Mason county (wise mani, said
trust the Convention will hear me, for shall detain
them but lew moments The distinguished gentleman
who has taken his seat has said that who
seeking 70 have vote upon this question dsorganiz
ers In other words throwing fire the
party. l submit 10 this Convention whether or DOT
every gentleman who has spoken with us, and every
friend Of Gov WISE has said he would support Hunter II
he the nominee Of the Charleston Convention And
Gil that they desire is to ascertain which OF these dtn
guished men this Convention prefers That's the
word-let Hunters friends come to cote they dare
Dir. MCDOWELL, me mber Of the House of Delegates
from Botetourt said- for one, and can say tho
thing in behalf OF other friends OF Governor Wise, am
wiling Governor Wise Is the choice here go into
the Charleston Convention for Hunter Let the Test be
made therefore, and let the friends Of Hunter permit
fair vote be TAKEN that may know how TO act in
future This, they will for thew
too clearly oresee the results. And see already an
ORGANIZED determination to prevent thing like direct
vote. II Is competent FOR any man to do so with only
Sufficient force at his back to sustain the call
for . scale vote upon every little proposition that
this call and mistake very much il this para menary
privilege will not be frequently brought into requistion
before this Convention ad)ourns
Mr. NEwMAN--There Ia doubt but that the friends OF
Governor Wise will willingly support Mr. Hunter the
Charleston appears from the result OF the
here that Gov Wise not the choice of the Conven
ton. (Applause) Last night, when my friend from
Monroe got UP and attempted TO explain what would
be The effect OF this amendment my friend from Stafford
(Mr Seddon) would not allow him the privilege. don't
pretend to say what his motives were but I will
Say what the effect Of that was--that gen
gentleman comes here this morning and states that
voted upon misapprehenson, and asks 80 be permitted
by whos By the Of M Hanss WSa
sorting to every phase OF parliamentary tactics to prevent
an expression OF the voice Of the people through their
oeegated agents. applause and cries of ''Tney
they are beaten and they dare not take the v0te.'
Mr.. StDDoNIt the friends OF Mr. Hunter that are
prevent this expression OF preference but
the friends OF the democratic party Cheers
Mr. NEwMANI tell you, sir, that the friends OF Henry
Wise are the friends Of the democratic party. say
they will go iurther-they will chcerfuly for T. NJ
Hunter henceforh II be turns out be the choice Of
this Convention (Applause)
Mr. JOIN BRAYNoS, Senator from Lewis county, ask
that gentleman be recognises tho power and propety
OF this Conventions instruction upon the question of
conference Cheers, and great confdsiOu)
Mr. NKwMAs-l will answer the gentleman's question
Mr. CRorPER. OF Norfolk rise 10 question Of order
What the question now before the Convention Mr. Pre-
siaeLG
The cHMR-The question is on permitting absent votes
10 be recorded.
Mr. CRorPER-I say. then, that the gentleman's ques
ton out oil order CHEERS and cries OF "Queson qles
,ion.)"
Tie CHAR-The Chair decides that the point Of order
Is not sustained, And that the member In order.
(Gfeat confusion, and cries OF SEQ on, Newman ~
Mr. NEwNAN-As there different points OF order
being raised here one, intend conne myself 70
the question before the Convention.
VoCE-he has no right TO answer the question whe
ther the are favor OF SOutharu Cocfe