The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1860-04-21

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JOHN D. DEFREEs' TESTIMONY
. state your kreedence AMI occupation. A. II live at
Indianapolis, Indiana, and am practical priuter.
ANOTHER PARTNER TIN PROFITS
VIII you be kind enough to state whether or mot you
sn interest in the present printing Of Congress- and
re So we. snst interest ~ A. have contingent int
@ me printing OF the House for the Thirty sixth Con
srees aver the election Of Governor Ford hs being
prsceca printer, and knowing nothing OF the bushes u.s.
eSo3o 70 give No an interest in consideration that
should give my personal attention and help him in is
management; cannot state definitely what my interest
oS VII not be lees than one fourth OF the net profits
Qepenoent upon future contingencies; the truth s
mr.. ford and have mot come TO very specific under.
standing. but is mo- to be lees than that amount
q. Have you that agreement In writingS A. No, SIR
z. no you know whether any other persons are
interested with Mr. Ford in the profits OF the print.
ineS A. do NOS except by hearsay that others expect
cd to be; but know nothing Of other persoas being To-
terested.
FORD HIS FRIENDS
Was there any agreement understanding bet eeu
you and Mr. Ford previous TO his election that II he were
elected you should have q portion OF the proftsP
There was this Before his election told him ths& II he
were elected should like 70 have interest with him 10
the profit and he replied that he Of the sort that
always took care Of his friends aad being an old &C.
qusinlance was willing TO let the matter 60
You had specific understanding a. TO tho amount
you would receive? A. No, sir.
Q Were you NOT candidate before Congress yourself
Tor public prerS A. Yes, sir and osght have been
elected.
POLITICAL MISSIONARY
o. Did you make, Cause to be mnie
TO caucus Of the republican party convened
sor ,, me purpose Of nominating candidate
would gives certain portion H the prods q; The oriuns
20 me rePuohesn party, Dr. place it in the control OF
committee OF that party to be used for the distribution Of
night OF the republ conference authorized Genera
kgofe Of my state to say that would be liberal In nv
contribution 10 the dissemination Of political truth among
the people OF the States OF Pennsylvania New Jersey In
diana, and Illinois, previous to the next Presidential cleo
ton, for the purpos. Of informing them their true
interests and who they ought to vote for for President
or something TO that amount
9. Was that proposition in writlngr A. think it was
you Ths YOU woaa nave svs, not
me 60 on with my statement; General Kixore said
s nc would like to be ,, authorized to make this
dressed TO him, and ii was to the effect Of what
have SAID here; am not so certain whether fixed the
butte in that way half the profits it done very has
thy.
2. We're you nominated by the caucus to whom tina.
were you voted for in the House the candidate
lor printer 70 the House. A. was, by every republican
Adams
How long were you voted for9 do not re,o,;ec,.
IS postponed day after day for month do not
nov now many ballots there were think ten or fifteen
VAS " fed Tor; there were one two ballots day.
q ynr were nominated the day thai MI Kii0ora
a H tbs, n, oposition9 A. Yes sir. -''''
cans ." Se ne day. A. No. cir not the next Sav
r. Stanton noye> postponenent several days, and
o You were pomiu. ed though on the day that prong
lion was made as the ca ddato of the republican pary
the republicans present in te House except that Of
r. AGAINST A. Yes sir. should IKE to say that re-
.rded his course towards me IS very strange; because,
IA did in support Of his fasLer for the Prss
ency against General Jackson. .st,..
nd YOUR CONNECTION q candidate With ps A. Yes -
O. Do you know anything further than what you havS
aied touching the matters mentioned in the resolution
rder which the committee acting? A. No, air do
TESTIMONY OF HON. DAVID KILG0RE.
O. Mr. Kigore, there not proposition made by |
nddate for printer before the caucus Of the republican
embers Of the Ho9e, convened for tho purpose OF
napg candidate for printer % the House Of Rspresen
tyes that they would elect him printer to the House,
would give part the profits Of printing the repubh
an party 70 committees Of that party 10 be used for
aid In relation TO combinations Of different interests;
not the intention, understood Of the republicans
4 the House 70 make nomination but 10 consult In re-
alton 10 the various candidates, and try to concentrate
heir strength upon some one man; there had been
9e o MISSOURI certain
printing interests was spoken OF ~ various times dur
e 3 wv 10 YOU reoo,lec. their namess A. No, sir
cannot recoect the names; it was combination OF
Boston man. Philadelphia man, some gentleman in Louis
,otten' and gentleman Of 81. Louis those interests
combined, according to rumor for the purpose OF
occurring nomination Of some one OF hem aad securing
,s election: Mr.. Derees told that he was not dis |
,oscd to into any combination with individuals for
be purpose dividing the profits with individuals, but
hat willing to give reasonable share Of the pro-
u.s. to be disposed in the distribution Of useful infoIma
ion among the unenbghtened democracy Tor something
ubsiantiay 70 tina. esct subject 70 the Sons,o, ana S
dispose Of 1t in the furnishing OF documents
ny recollection serves me Alright; In hs proposition to mo
q would give one half of the profits for the good OF
ne cause; made the proposition, or submitted Mr..
)efrees proposition, TO the meeting
Q Was s proposition In writing A Yes, sir; II was
edrced TO writing, and addressed TO me |
O. Have you got i with your A. NO, sir; have not
@ viii suggest you that you can find that propo-
ition writing that you present OF some other tme
/. I will do 30, I can aAdM
rAIr TER NKr PROFITS CARRY ELECTIONS IN
DOUBTFUL srArEs
O. Please state the contents Of ~ A. The contents
vere that he ,cd dre one half tAs rd PROFITS TO Be sub
Jet T. n Ssgs,S So 's as p1s os TN ss
eaaoe) ,i documents or iTformation may Dc t~accarde
as to e esaa phraseo!cy Of H. out taas Is TIE suosa.cs
electoneepg fund by the committee for the distribution
OF documenS A. Yes, sir; bat for no other purpose
ments have made.
O. Do you NOT know that the Executive Committee, at
rs first meeting, refused 70 have nyhing to do with V
A. was present at the first meeting OF the commit
tee but understand that they refused to have anything
TO do with the proposition.
O. that proposition of Mr.. Defrees made 10 the
caucus Of the republicans OF the House? A. Yes, sir
was made by me-
Q. Was Mr. Deirees after that proposition was made,
nominated by that caucus as candidate printer a.
Mr. Defrees was believe the understanding was that
we were make any formal nomination, but merely
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man, ultimately TO concentrate upon him; probably
three to be voted fer and were actually
voted for; but ultimately wore to coacentra.e
strength the object to get the Of the meeting
as to who the strongest msa.
Did the meeting unite Nr. Defrees the strongest
man A. think he got the highest vote; indeed \ am
sure he did. sg2t
O. Was he not voted for for several days the repub
can party their caadidatos A. think all repub
rcans voted for him with the exception, probably OF Me-
Adams Of Massachusetts Mr.. Stanton did not for
him for several bAlotugs and perhaps for several days
o How long yas Re a candidate2 A. That cannot ~,