Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1860-06-25
RICHMOND w HIG
DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL CONVENT1O
FRIDAYS PROCEEDINGS CONTINUED.

it was done so abruptly.
A Delegate-He yielded the floor to the gentleman
from Oregon Mr.. SteyenS(
The Presilent-The Chair did not so understand, and
therefore wishes to inquire of the gentleman from Mis-
souri,
Mr.. Krum-I yielded to the gentleman from Ore
The Presidont--Dd the gentleman from Missouri finish
what he had 20 say
Mr.. Krum-No, sir-I only yelled temporarily.
The President-Then tbs gentleman from Missouri has
the floor
Mr.. Phlips-I submit that the gentleman cannot yield
the floor temporarily but must yield it absolutely-and
understood the gentleman say that he did yield TO
the gentleman from Oregon.
The President-The gentleman from Missouri sat down
abruptly with concluding remarks which the Char
did not hear and he supposed the gentleman had finished
his remarks and taken his IL was in consequence
of that impression that the Chair recognized the gentle
man from Pennsylvania, who rose and addressed the
Chair New If the gentleman from Missouri desired to
retain the Cor the Chair will rule that he has right TO
DO so but not that he has right to make largan
with any member in regard to taking the floor If he
did yiCd the floor it is for the Chair to recognize the
person next entitled TO il.
Mr. Schrll of New York; rise to point of order
The President has stated that when the gentleman from
Missouri had concluded his remarks he did II IN voice
Which the chair did hear and from that circUmStnc
the chair recognized the gentleman from PENNSYLVANIA
Nv pont of order is that the gentleman from Missouri
reueat these remarks that the President can hear
them The gentleman said 81 am appealed TO by yari-
Gus gentlemen to the previous question, but am
under obligation to fellow Committeeman not TO DO 1t,
and thereup on lie took his seat
Mr. Krum-I will repeat my remarks | supposed 1t
was understood least by the gentleman from Oregon
that he desired early stage to have an opportunity
OF saving something in respect to the minority report
and desired to give him that opportunity. Hence IL
inv purpose when took my seat allow him that Op
portunitv aud 20 undertook to express myself To the
chair Ii the gentleman from Oregon does not desire TO
occupy the attention Of the convention, then Will con
cludt my further duty before this convention.
Mr. Schcll-I call the President to decide the point
Of order
Mr. Atkins. Of Teuno s5ee--I rise to point of order
The geutl,m1u from Missouri concluded his remarks,
le his position and ashe has already stated, yielded
the floor temporarily TO the gentleman from Orgoh-
Nv point of order is this that on his own statement he
Welded the tOo- and OF course he did It permanently,
10 the gen lcman from Oregon.
A Dteglie-The Chair SO decided.
The resident tn, gentleman from Tennessee has
taken point OF order correpondns IN us elect to TIE
question made by the gentleman from New ork tMr
Sch,D Il depends upon matter oi iaet II the gen
t.gr from Mssouri Weld, ,hc AOor, and 10 Tact took
his seat then it for the Chair to assign 1t to the next
| wi % rose and addressed the Chair.
Mr. Kruu-I viii relieve tie chair 10y repeating what
did did not take my scat L is true stepped down
b cause gentleman desired to say something in my ear
did not step down 10 take my scat but only 10 allow
the gentleman from Oregon to speak if he desired to do
So Now understand that hc does not desire II, and
.ill therefore make the motion that indicated.
Mr. Waterbury of New York; rise TO a point OF
order Upon the gentlcmIus own showing lie yielded
the floor ssrpel down from his place, leaving tle bust
ness Of the cO'eUuon to engage IN private couversa-
ton With some g,uiltmen, which Was 10 all ntents and
purpose g Welding of hc floor lie ceased from the
bu. cs b,ar, the convention to attend TO private mat;
ers: ari o} course che convention viii not be held at
stand s,i IN order TO enable the gentleman 10 attend to
/ private and personal matters.
| The P-e,idcut-1hr chair must determine the qucs-
ou of order upon sccrtauing the question OF fact; aud
upon the question of fact the chair is prepared TO re-
csye as decisive OF that question Of iactwhich lu-
wolves the question ei incu.ion-ihe declaration upon
honor of the gentleman from Missouri, Mr. krum) II
the gentleman from Missouri SAYS to the Convention that
he had finished what lie had to saw and had ceased to
sneak In order TO enable the gentleman from Oregon
tdr Stcyensl 20 speak-il that his intention when
he left hi ro.iiou the chair win be bound TO say that
tb. gentlemen from Missouri Mr.. Hrum) had lost the
floor aud could not u, and upon that question OF
fact and intention the chair will hc bound 10 accept the
declaration upon lOuor OF the gentleman from Missouri
Mr. Krum o' Missouri trust that whatever speak
it will be regarded that speak upon honor speak TO
YOU nov upon honor. state nov, as tid before, That
the fact +, that supposed had tie right 70 Weld the
floor temporarily % the gentleman from Oregon (Nr.
S,cveus) that he mig ght make some cNpl maon or COM
meut To hi. Convention. / did so, and il Wa, my de-
sign to resume the floor. And did not suppose had
lost nv right 70 the loor simply because epped from
| simply bowed my head TO receive communication
from brother delegate did not suppose that from that
fact was Welding right to the toor Il Is Tor you,
Mr. President and for the convention TO decide. do
not profess to be scker about points OF order or any
thing else and will never De when ! am dealing
with brethren Cue, of go on "go on now
await for the decision of the chair Renewed cries OF
"eo on ~ Allow me further To say, that ! supposed
that under the rules OF the convention the tine the gen
man from Oregon Mr. StcyeIs occupied would be con
sidered part of nav time do not profess to be Ia
miar with the rules OF tbs house.
NJ Sblcy, of Miunesoa-l desire to ask the Chair il
Is not the universal custom in all deberaive bodies
FOX gentlemen get up aud ask the permission OF the
geltleuau speaking to make suggestion or explain
alton and It any objection is made to yielding the
| floor for that purpose
The Presiient-The inquiry of the gentleman from
Minnesota (Mr. Shelby Is very pertinent The Char
regrets to say thati Is common in deliberate assemblies
or AT least in one assembly Which Is cOnstutiOnaly
uuders God TO be delibeIatiye assembly laughter -
IL is common for gentlemen to arise and mtetpoSe re
marks Nj or without the permission of the gentleman
having the floor AMI to 10 il without having been rccOg
uizee by the Chair. Every s.cu lueTpOs!ton OF any
gentleman with without the consent 1 the gentle
man upon tie oOr H. Ia the Judgment OF the Chair an
act of disorder until the Chair has recognized the gen
teuan who thus makes the request to inerpOse while
another gentleman is speaking, aud until the Chair as
ccraius after he has recognized him, that he proceeds
with the assent of the gentleman upon the floor. And
H. this ease, the Cha dd oDStINtu uial llt B'Hut-
man from Oregon (Nr Sleven) rising aud had had
an opportunity so to recognize him, tie Chair might
have recognized hm.
But the chair did not perceive the gentleman from
Oregon Mr. Stevens rise. tie did perceive the gcnte
man from Missouri Mr. Krum) leave the place Of con
spicuousness in which he Stood aud understood him IL
saw that he Welded the floor adding something at the
Sime time which the Chair did not understand. The gen
teman from Missouri now explains that what he said
was, 81 WELD the floor temporarily to the gentleman from
Oregon" Now the Caar docs not understand that any
gentleman in this body yield the door TO any Other
gentleman to speak until the gentleman so proposing to
pea sh be recognized by the Chair IL 1t we're other
wise there would l., an end Of all order Of debate
well as Interchange Of fair rights Of inequality upon thC
floor of the convention And the gen ie,4n from
Aissoa Mr.. krum) tina, in sitting down he said
81 Weld the goOc !c" the Chair rules that that is
Welding OF the hOor and ii the gentleman from Oregon
NJ Stevens) had got the h)or that ne could De
eognized ke would have been recognized But in this
case the Chair recognized the gentleman from Pennsyva-
MA Mr. Philips and tie Chair 10 oi opinion that be is
entitled 10 the floor.
Mr. Phillips should have long since reliGqrjshed the
loor if | had not been Interrupted. did not rise to
make speech because 1t is my desire 10 hear the gen
tlenan from Oregon Mr. StevensG rose for the pur
nose of suggesting to the convention What did not sup
bose any man Of arGess would object to- rose for the
purpose OF suggesting to the conycnuon-
Mr. Stuart o. M.1higsn-l cal the gentleman to or
der
Mr. Philips-I am speaking to mates tei-rs lhe
| convention.
The Presdent-The Chair understands that there are
debatable questions before the Convention, being the
resolutions Of the majority report aud the successive
amendments ard the Chair Presucs that the gentleman
from Pcnnsy gauia Alr Philips is speaking 10 The laes
| lion.
Mr. Stuart Of Aicb,san-The gentleman has contra
dc,ed himself by saying u the Gn.r and to the Con
yention ha, he does Lot Intend TO speak aG thee sub
ects and he then proceeds to impugn the Judgment c
other gentlemen in this House. II is that point OF order