The Lansing state Republican. [volume] (Lansing, Mich.) 1855-1874, 1860-10-24

any foresight could countenance it, and that
Congress could notapprove it, bat would spurn it.
Mr.. Calhoun then invited me, with one or two
Others to his room, and knowing that was an
admirer Of the political course and character OF
Mr.. Douglas he said be wished 70 convince me
that was mistaken about the way statesmen re-
garded the plan of partial submission, aud there.
upon read letter rhieh pS~ported 10 be rritten
by Stephen A. Douglas, AND WHICH RE-
| COMMENDED THAT PRECISE PLAN.
| merely replied that might be deceived as to
who were great statesmen, and that the letter
could not convince me as to wha. was truespolicy.
4 heard that letter spoken Of freely, and ire.
qae',ty afterwdrd, and 1 am satisfied that the
plan Of partial Submission uou!d not hare been
adopted bv the Conrention, II II has NOT been
for the influence of that letter.
Yours truly, e. X. NOBI.EY.
REPLY OF LtCIAS }. FAsrlN.
CHLIcorHE, No, Sept. =, 1860.
MIR. Fred. Emory, Chairman of Committee:
DEAR SIR-The letter from yourself and 9th.
ers, making certain inquiries concerning the
course OF Stephen A. Douglas, in regard TO the
Lecompton Constitution, has been received Ia
reply have to state:
stitutonal Convention. There was at one time
majority OF its members opposed to any sub
mission OF that instrument 10 the people. Ii is
useless to 60 into detail of the reasons that nu.
enced them. Suffice it to say, they justified
themselves on the ground that the Free State
men had refused to recognize the laws, and they
were determined now, SO far as in their power
to get rid of the Kansas question A consider.
able feeling had gotten up between the anti-sub-
missionists and those in favor of submission
About this time, John Calhoun, President of the
Convention, and the known friend of Mr.. Doug
las, declared to me and others, that he was au.
thorized to say, If the slavery clause was submit
ted, Mr.. DOUGLAS WOULD SUSTAIN
OUR ACTION. He read from a speech de-
hrered ty Mr.. Do.9lds think, at Springfield
Ill.,, and also from letter rrittem By Douglas
to John Calhoun.
The main points OF the letter, as | now re.
member are substantially as follows: That tie
Free State men Of Kansas had refused to pofe.
denonncing the lars as bogus; and If they con.
tinned to rote, ere, though Mey had a ma;orifu
they DESERTED TO BE DEFEiTED.
That If the COnvention could submit the sla.
rery clause of the Constitution. phich .ros the
bone of contention, 1T COULD BE SUS-
TALNED AND THE CONSTITUTION
CARRIED THROUGH CONGRESS-, AND
| HE WOULD GIVE 1T HIS SUPPORT.
In this cay tho Constitufion could not be vofed
dozen, and the Democracy andthe country ,could
get rid Of the Kansas question.
That Mr.. Douglas wrote tho letter TO Mr. Cal
houn, as above referred to- is certain in nv mind
| Mr. Calhoun, urged the reasons of Mr.. Douglas
with much earnestness. He said it was impor-
tant to have the influence Of Mr.. Douglas. His
argument prevailed. Enough of the members
changed to give a majority to carry the plan of
submission as adopted BY the Convention IL
acds 0ring mdinfy-I might say entsreiy-to the
Letter OF Douglas and the arguments Of Mr.
Calhoun, mged with much force, that the sub
mission Of The sldrery clause uas finally adopted
| | have now given you what came under nv
own observation without any coloring have
aimed at simple narration of facts as they oc.
Cured. Truly yours,
LUGIAN j. EAsTIN.
| REPLY OF GREEX u. REDMoN.
LEAvENwORTH, Sept. IA, 1860.
To Fred. Emory, Esq, Daniel Scully, Esq, Hon.
w. u. Matthias, John Henry, ESQ, and DR.. p.
Dyer, Committee, &c.
| GENTLENEx-Your favor of the 18th inst is
just received, and hasten to reply.
was member of the Constitutional Conven.
ton that framed and passed the well known Le-
compton Constitution.
! During the pendency of the proposition to
submit the slavery clause of that instrument to
the people, as it was submitted scas sho,cn a
letter by Hon. John Calhoun, adtlressed to him
6y Hon. Stephen 4. Douglas. THAT LETTER
SUGGESTED AND Urged THE PLAN OF
SUBMISSION ADOPTED BY THAT CONvEN.
TlON, dpprOring the Constitution as then agreed
upon, WHICH HAD BEEN SUBMITTED TO
HIM, and pledying himself to pass the Consti-
tution through Congress, If IRE acould insert tie
clause of submission, vhich IRE did insert. This
letter was declared by Gen. John Calhoun to EN-
body the entire sentiments of Judge S. A. Doug
las, and that tho entire plan of the Constitution
rds s'tgyested IN this letter, and that the yian of
submission ~as all that was aUanting to make
the Consultation emphafieaily Douglas meas.
ure. On examination of the letter, found il
verihcatOn of all that General Calhoun had told
ue Up 10 the time OF seeing this letter, had
opposed the pan Of submission, Jm IA pier Of
the pledge of Senator Douglas to put Il through
Congress # submitted an the manner IL ,cas, ]
then supported tie Constitution, after the ad-
journment Of the Convention, with the submis-
sion clause and ALL
Shortly after Senator S. A. Douglas took posi-
ton on the Lecompton Constitution, met Gen.
Calhoun at Leaycnworth CITY, and referred TO
Senator Douglass course, and in his letter above
referred to. Gen. Calhoun, in reply said THAT
JUDGE DOUGLAS HAD BETRAYED Us, and
if had been sworn TO before he would not have
believed it, until he saw and read Senator Doug.
las action in Congress
lived in Illinois seventeen years, was person
ally acquainted with Judge S. A. Douglas, have
received a great many communications, d0cu-
, ments, &c, from him under his frank, AND
, An WE'LL ACQUAINTED WITH HIS
1 HAND WRITING. KNOW THE LEI.
TER ALLUDED TO WAS THE HAND
WRITING OF JUDGE s. 4. DOUGLAS
e have been uniformly and invariably his friend
| and supporter, until he took his position on the
/. Lec0mptOn Constitution
GREEN b. REDMON.
MARYLAND CoNING.-We have ardent appeal
from friends in Baltimore for speakers and docu
meats to help carry Maryland for Lincoln. Sine
the recent collapse Of the American organiza