New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-12-21

% -itn mat temporary ARRANGEMENT cOHu 70 iDlt
operation on the 20h OF January, that time woult
h. given for The General Government to know oul
We've aud mike ready to answer yea or nay whether
they disposed to treat; but la the mean time the
oidary OCCUPATIONS OF our cizen, arc to go on. One
latter nCre IA to the revenues. The Postma ter OF
| haIsston moot lkely would keep account until
tic Transaction settled, Jan. u. Ny friend from
6. 1lici aes proposed one item IL wns proposed that
tic money received by the Postmaster o. any OF them
sould be eonsidercd IN account and settled WITH the
General Government the day of the ram cailon OF
the ordinance. At the sitting Of this Convention u
month hence all these matters VIII be arranged as BE-
tween two parties IN the mean time The accounts
shot Id ge on so hat sudden disruption shall take
place. Sir merely suggest this has been spoken
ofby others Secretary Cobb said that the revenue OF
South Carolina firm the Custom House dim near pay
the eArenes Of customs. For the last quartet under
sand from the best authority that the Pos-Ooes OF
south Carolina cost the Government $40 Co., and the
| reeep II have been lees than $1,000. Inereiore Mr.
President there is great apprehension in that way
| But accounts should be kept. In the mean tnae
| the ususl business transactions shoIld be al
lowed 10 IFcceed until it as"ertained what were
TIE views regarded by the Administration, which
have doubt entirsly friendly TO u.s. and VIII do
ItveryhDg lat can BE- done in ORDER to prevent any
! inconvenience. Mr.. President, 1 have only word
more; will lien take my seat. We are ar thc inau-
puIation Of great cause. All OF ls look with an un.
divided ~ 10 the coDseqU' noes OF that move One OF
The most prominent ard NEST favorable Is the unanln-
i.y which prevails in this S.ae OF South Carotna, and
lanimiiy not only unexpected, Sir but unprecedented
night ltIfsIs anna say 10 inc
in oiher States - il to certain degee unexpected
i, Las surpassed take to say, every expectation
The great Oh eo Lould be 10 preserve unanimity and
form, ard not chill, this sympathy of our Southern Sis
teIs. Now, Mr. President, have said stop for day,
shut up for day tAe port Of Charleston and the siPs
now loading with the products If our country weud
rot before they would 20 TO If an ordinance was
passed, they will iAye pa4ers--they are stopped
Pass your ordinance, and what Is the consequence
Why Sir we HE stopped single day II we were
ftoIped two days VII the cloquence OF Mr.. Stephens
wOuh be hut Ienry white compared with the as
omdiI Cises among ourselves. The sOpJage OF post
III il AN argument tlat will silence
This win be but the beginning. The port of Charles
ton shut, postal arrangements stopped the people uni
led, their shils roilg at the TharveS ana the whoe
Of ordinary transactions will stop IL there any ar
guntnt that obviaie II Look at the Statcs. One
State lesitatea are more than ready Georgia,
whose cOOl Grafton Wa desire more than any other,
State having exactly the same position with us and
lies side by side by Mr. President, have reso-
hutton which intend to ask to offer for an appro'
pirate committee Pcoposc To refer to that committee
10 inquire whether il is in cntemp latioD, on with
dr,wa OF the State from the Union, either to make
permanent temporary arrangements III reference to
the officers of the PostOhice and Our Custom-H House,
and that they should report thereon. This is what
propose. When Intend Offering resolution, and 1t
Shall have been passed think it may be done without
Offering resolution, unless great Objection Is made
Mr.. 5regg--We can dissolve our union with the
United States, and make arrangements for cOLuhu-
ance OF the mail service.
Mr. Adams-1his debate is ont of order
Mr.. Gregg-The Minister TO the United States will
have the matter in charge
TIE amendment of adding " Postal arrangements,
for the consideration of the Committee on Commerce,
was adopted.
The fourth resolution was then adopted
The special order the second resolution, relative to
the Secession portion OF the Message OF the Pre-I-
dent If the United States taken up
Mr.. Magrath said: II we were now in condition
of profound peacc and about inauguraing this act OF
secession of South Carolina from the brotherhood OF
tifin Of nd n All
that resolution would be Immediately proper and
necessary; but when about to consumnlae this
great act, without the good will and without tho good
wishes Of many Of the States Of this Confederey, 4
most inn Crtan that tie State of South Carolina should
know if Their rights, claimed in behalf OF these States,
were be exercifed 1t would be well to define ITS
rights 10 be exercised within the limits of her own
State. The President of the United States ahlrns his
rights, his constitutional duty and high obligation to
protect what hc calls the property Of the United States
within the limits Of South Carolina, and enforce after
the secession Of South Carolina, the laws OF the
United States within its limits; and II Is true, Sir,
that he SAYS he has no constitutional power TO coerce
| the state of South Carolina if she shall secede,
while at the time he denies her the exercise
| Of her legitimate right OF secession winch she
| claims and / apprehend there Will be, Mr.
PRECEDENT, AN attempt TO ooerce the State OF South
Carolina in the form Of protecting the properly OF the
United States within tie limits OF South Carollih'
am disposed therefore, NJ The very threshold TO con-
sider the accuracy Of this logic and weigh well the
conclusion which The President of the United States
has arrived ut in This matter There never h's peen
doy-no nor an hour-in which any body could claim
the property within the limits OF the State OF South
CaIolina--wheher the claim were made by IN lhdi-
Sdua or corporation, or community or nation; Is IL
not sacred under the constitution Us tie Jaws Vi
South Carolina. and as when that right Is claimed by
| one of our own citizens And if there be, as IS as
serted property of the United States within the limits
of South Carolina, the property, ae the secession OIL
the State according to opinion consistent win the aug
ny and honor of the State, can say after the act OF
| secession receive only thaS protection which 1t has
| received-I mean that protection which has been
| derived from the laws Of Sonth Carolina. Mr'
| President, look mt IT,: There Is properly w%hich,
| while we are in this Union, belongs TO the Union
of the States, Ms an independent State. iias
| it been protected by The arms OF the United
! States! Wien was it, Sir, that the United States
considered it necessary within the hmts oil soutn
Carolina to consider this property needful OF that ma
teria protection which ii seems disposed 10 assert IOr
it, Because the ac Of secession makes the people OF
! South Carolina occupy, by the people OF the United
States the position OF robbers 50 poentlany ID IL ~
serted that lie rights of the United States are only TO
| be maintained in our limits by material force No
no-nol Ii cannot be 30, that the L ned States can,
consistently with the honor and dignity OF SOuth caro-
| Ina, own within The limits OF South carolina Inc
Prosd,u Of the United States that TINS property
bas been bought by the Union Of the States that the
| United States has ad for it, and therefore clam the
| right to hold it, II must be Remembered that wnen
South Carolina secedes from this unio her sovereign
rights arise, and TO be considered IN connection
with this assertion OF the night OF property. In thiS
| Convention, in the face OF the whole world II IL
| for her 10 decide 10 raise the banner oi Ja1-
| ,ice, and let every one see Wnstuer We ome
lima owes To the United States, let 1t be pad, II IL
imIoveristes The people OF South Carolina II there
be dollar claimed which il not Justly due the United
| States LET South Carolina be desoated before thai
| dollar il paid. lSmothered applause. Ihere Il one
condition OF pul liz affairs 20 which wish for moment
to advert i'm cop,eauence of tie remarks which fell
from the gentleman on the resolution just disposed o.