New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1860-01-06


opposed TO each other as The Republicans The House
could therefore be organized only by the voluntary
withdrawal Of some portion OF toe Americans add
Democrats or by the adoption of tina Plurality
RUE. He maintained that tie election by plurality
would be perfectly constitutional The Constitution
gave lhe House power to elect s own presto inV off,
Gers and they could DO II IN any way they chose
lift were through Committee. The adoption of the
plurality rule would he the act Of a majority. Let
fbsm spend time fruess discussions about marty
bnnepes, but meet the responsibilities resting upon
them RE men, ao yoe ever I'LL Speaker should be
elected He came here 10 work and to vote aud did
not mean 10 leave off for dinner Just when the turkey
WA hot Let them stay all night if need be-
quietly and firmly discharging their duties. While
they would not talk, neither would they quit their
posts 10 60 and feast the good things Of this world
while the mail contractors aud creditors of the Gov
ertment were suffering from want Of the money
Justly due them. He was in favor of the plurality
rule, aud for letting those who would factiously op-
pose 10 take the responsibility before the country
Mr. GOOCH tMsss., Rep.l rose to correct an error
IN the Official report If Yesterdays proceedings as
given in The Globe. He bad asked Mr. Reagan this
question! Then, If understand the gentleman, il
IL II violation Of the common principles OF Justice to
exclude Slavery from any State in the Union where
1t does not now eXist p 10 this Mr. Reagan an
swered, think it is not only in violation of the
common principles of justice but in violation of the
Constitution Of the United States" In The Globe, as
prset to-day, he found the words does not stricken
out Of his question, and the words if done by the
Fecers authority, inierpolaied iD the answer before
the words, " violation of the Constitution of the
fcuDd the language given correctly as was reported
yesterday, ana who responsible for the alteration
be did not know.
hr,REAGAN inquired ifgentleman had not revised
sud altered the question:
Mr.. GOOCH--Not at all, Sir.
Mr. REAGAN said then he had wholly msappre.
hepded the question He understood him to inquire if
ii would not be violation of common principles of
jasce TO abolish Slavery in States and his
prodcSsed upon that understanding. As the question
stood, he regarded nOnsensca and had suggested
10 the reporter that the words does not were not
intended. The merest tyro knew that the General
Government bad nothing TO do with Slavery in the
Sses and could neither establish exclude il with
in State limits. He was known as States-Rights
man, but he supposed every conceded the SOW
ergnty Of States their domestic institution, and
was surprised at such question.
Mr. GO0CH was willing the House should judge
whether or. not the question was Jensica, of
coprse they would judge of the answer. The gentle
had said the Territories could not exclude Savery
the time Of adoption OF State Constitution, accord
ing TO principles of natural Justice and he had asked
if 6y priority of be not think outrag
ing natural justice 10 continue the exclusion or to e&
rlude il afterward2
Mr..REAGAN thought it contrary to natural justice
TO abolish Slavery in the Territories, because he re-
gaped slaves as the property of individuals In form
ing State Constitution and organizing sovereignty
the Territory has power under the Constitution, to
exclude Slavery, but that power could only be
cised as revolutionary right which destroys private
property, and is therefore, volave OF natural justice
But States a'e sovereign and If no Slavery exists
property, and therefore violates no principle OF
natural right. man has natural right to retain his
property where he lives, but not TO carry into SOW
eIGguty where il IL not recognized as property.
Mr. G00CH-If understand the gentle nan now,
be holds that the who lives under sovereignty
although be may have what the law recognizes as
property under that sovereignty, still he goes INTO
different sovereignty he has night 70 claim The prop
erty which he held at home sha there be regarded as
property.
Mr.. REAGAN-No man has right upon plea OF
natural right to interfere with sovereignty but
man who goes with others into common territory OF
the Union with property recognized by the Federal
CoVernuent az well as by his State Government mas
an Interest in the formation OF the new boNereIgn'y.
rSnfionsry right of States to destroy property Is
recognize by International law but it is the right OF
power and is exercised IN derogAion OF the natural
Hr' GOOCU failed to see that the gentleman had
answered the question he put, but ne was wiling 20
letthe question stand, If he was VIKING 10 let the
ansger stand. ii seemed to him, however, that such
rersxe of the official record Of their pro-
ceedinRs should not be permitted.
Mr. REAGAN assured the gentleman that he had
made the alteration in good faith, and Win no oeSgn
Mr. GOOCH-l SIN perfectly satisfied, 30 lar as ne
and are personally concerned. $1,000.
There was a call of the House preliminary to vote
MI JOHN COCHRANE lad. Dem, n. " said
there was still one gentleman on the DemoerAtle s,Ie
absent owing 70 eiek ness, who had not pared on ne
had been sent for. He trusted gentlemen on tne oter
,ide would see how proper it was to make par ior
Res from the Republican side, mo mop
Mr. COCHRANE said the action OF the kepuohcan
aide then forced him to make datory movement, ana
that was to adjourn A. n-o
The Yeas and Nays were demanded Dy tue DEMO
cratic side, and ordered. 10.
THE mot;op was disagreed to, rs against 10.
@ir BARKSDALE tAd. Dem, Miss',l nomiia'eu
BE. Vallsndigham.
The House proceeded to vote. ,
Mr.. POTTER iRep., Wis.,, VIXEN his name was
called. said, as Mr. Yaandigham was somehow mixed
ma with the John Brown affair." he could not vote Tor
In. bit for John Sherman. lLaughter.l
MI. YALLANDIGHAM Cad. DEM, Ohio, at
sabssQueh period retorted by saying he should very
much ike to vote Cor Mr. Potter but, as the latter
was a contradiction Of the remark OF ShakespeaTe
that When the brains are out the man ls oesd, ne
should vote for MIR. Houston. lCries OF =" Gooo from
the Democratic side, and laughter.
The ballot resulted az follows: =
Whole number Of votes az OilI1er '''''''''''
Hecessary TO l01 H. CisTk''' '''''''t' 90
Se Scattering 70
TIE House again voted, Mr.. DAVIS (MSs.l nOmi-
ps1ine Hr. Boc0ck
THE ballot resulted follows;
Whole number Of votes. ~ Nelson
ernsn. % Scattering
Mr. MILES Dem, S. c. rose, and was immedI-
Italy sorTou,ded by circle of gentlemen from both
s;dss eager 10 listen 70 him. He said he supposed IL
ss perfectly obvious 70 every gentleman tnat nere -
ndt he rex1oteet probability that the House VIII
orpanixe for an indefinite time to come; tnaL we
~ pot one lot nearer to solution OF our oineui-
fies than we were the first day we assembled.
How long is this thing to go on Some gehu u'n
lave urged tin plurality rule; but many OF US believe,
ri1tfuF or wrong fully, that that 10 uncoDsut1sona
IN ,pyit and cannot consistently vote fcr IT, 10 tne
end If time win never vote for it, because THINK