New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-12-13

he's the rover 20 give thar protection and u u - duty
10 do H. cannot be disputed that this ID not the posi-
ton If ,he Northern Democracy AZ least that portion
who follow Douglas. They deny the power Of Con-
sress the subject, hey deny that Congress
exercise jurisdiction 20 ~ 10 give thai protection They
say dial The power belongs 70 the people 81 the Tern
toee Themselves IN their territorial iOra; and tIat
when sufficient number Of people 20 into
a territory TO form political community
they have complete power % regulate the subject Of
Slavery they please, and thas neither Congress
any other human tribunal has power 10 interfere
Now he eontended that position was az unsound as the
Wilmot proviso. When he said the Democratic party
were AZ least coruptoie be did not slude ~ them N
a moral sense, but spoke ID political souse, thinking
che time fat coming whom they woald be 10
undsr tho pressure Of strong and overwhelming sen
tiIDent al the North. II they had already become
aboltioDieed they would become 70.
hT. BIGLER Wa surprised 10 bear the remarks OF
The Senator the other day.. lie thought be did the
Democratic party q the North great injustice for ho
certainly used strong language, and went on a. some
length 70 eiy they rotten and corrupt on this
subject az tho Republican party. Sir. B.glsr would
tell him that such declaration had 10 foundation IN
TACT. Not only have portion Of the Democrats
party syopathlzed with Brown, in bis atrocous
slaught upon Virginia but little do they sympstbzs
with Aboiitionism. lie was TatIhed with the Sens
tors disclaimer, az far as 1t went but justice required
him 70 declare thai the Northern Democracy had
labored Gay after day. IN season and out OF season, IN
defense Of Tho righ,s Of the South
Mr. iYERSON-I said that very thing in my re-
mark bot IN The other caro- referred 70 tbe portion
OF the Democrats party which, under the lead OF Mr.
Dougas has denied the rights OF the Southern
people:
Dir. BIGLER said the Senator from Georgia could
hardly realize how The expression Of the rotenness Of
the Democratic party fell on bis AT the North,
Democrats called d0ughfaces because they stood
up for the rights OF the South There were different
opiDQus among Democrats with regard 10 the question
Of Territorial rghts and he would not say they would
ell agree WIN hr Iverson; bit they had no sympathy
with the Abolition party, and every Democratic
paper iD tho country has denounced John Browns
QgKu
this: We do not CLAIM that the Constitution
establishes Slavery, prohibits anywhere, bat the
Constitution expressly declares that the States are per-
fecuy equal, and provides that States shall come
into the Union on terms Of perfect equality with the
old Satee 1t not denied that the Territories are the
property Of the States IN common, and Congress II SIM
ply their trustee. IL il upon this principle of per-
1eo equality, equity, end justice, that these owners
have equal right to the occupancy and enjoyment Of
Territory long s Territorial eXistence remains.
He believed the common law of ths country with the
Fugitive Slave law would afford all the protection the
owners Of slaves would require ANY Territory, when
it is alleged that the Territorial Legislature has
transcended its Legitimate authority to The de.riment
OF private rghte. That II question for Tire judoiayi
and when tho judiciary give judgment IN such case
the whole power OF the Federal Government must DO
employed to carry out the law thus defined. IL rs
Fmply that broad doctrine Of allowing the people OF
Territory 20 exercise lust that authority winch they
may exercise under the Constitution and law. When
a dispute arises 70 whether they transeended their
authority, that ID question not for Congress bui for
/ am AN Aboltonist, nor those ] represent.
don't seek IN amy way TO disturb the
rights of my Southern brethren. From
the hour j first came into political hfe to the
present day believe | have never gone through a
political campaign when the rights of the South
nOl leading issue. At the North we have been con-
stantly asssed by the Opposition. They assall-
ing the Democratic party every Day, On the ground
that we are subseryient to the South and that
Pro-Slavery men. We say simply seek to MAIN
tain the constitutional rights OF the southern States.
Our object is to put down ths spirit OF elimination
which must ultimately lead 20 alienation and separation
of people who ought to be frieHds snd brethren.
Dir. Biger thought be had spent hour IN defense of
the rights Of the South where Mr. Iyers0n had spent
one minute and no could not sit still under such impn"
tations the Senator had hurled on the Democratic
party without telling him that he had done injustice.
The Northern Democracy has stood like bulwark
between the South and TIE Abolitionists Break as
Mr.. PI}GH was clad Mr. Iverson had made this ex
planAtion. lie would give notice that, some cou-
Venient OCCASION he should have something TO say ON
tie subject We have jutt exactly enough OF thus TO
eecure something more. II the Democracy OF the
southern States hold the sentiments OF MIR. lyerson,
we want to know it before the meeting of the Charles
ION Convention, and we intend TO know at least do,
30 far as the question and anhwer can DflnB IL I0m
the representatives of the Democratic party oil the
Northern States, whether they symPathze with such
sentiments.
Dir VERSION am ready 10 answer at any time,
end will do 40 TO your hearts content.
MIR. JOHNSON Tenn then proceeded TO discuss
Mr. Mason's resolution, replying TO Dir. Irumbulls
defense Of the Republican PLATFORM He denied that
Congress possessed any sovereign powers over the
Territories It's powers were merely those given by
the States and Constitution lie asked MT. lrumbuil
what he would do with the black population when II
Ooee into the Territories. Would he let tree coi0red
people who emigrste there have Hen equal footing
with the white pOpuatiOnl Let us reduce their
tNaory to practice and see how II VIII operate
VIII ho under the idea that all men are created squa,
and that the power of the Federal Government Is
sovereign in the Territories, allow black people equal
poliical righis with white peopef The Senator from
Illinois had spoken of the savehoidng aristocraey as
only one out of sixty of the people of tins country nut
this was sophistry He proceeded TO snow tnat
fbe emancipation OF the Southern slaves would IN iact
increase the political power of the South, for instead
of three.ffths of the aavS being represented pou-
,,,Ry all would be. Notwithstanding the declaration
thaf All men were created equalSt Northern States
1yere unwilling 20 allow the blacks 70 reside IN them
Mr. TkUMBuLL said that in hrs opinion the term
a. all men are created equal" in the Declaration OF
Independence did not mean that all persons were eGuu
In ar organized society. As abstract principle, All
men were created equal but when we come 10 ioih
Government and organized society, all persons We're
not given equal rights If the Senator from Tennessee
deuied the abstract principle, he would ask HIM, IN
absence of all Government and society WHOM SUPERIOR
and how II was that white man was superior 10 a
black man, or a man to woman lie TOOK u that
woman was created with the same natural rights US
Iaan but did not enjoy tbs same political rights IN
socic.v Nc Government WAS perfect. In Illinois
distinction was made between whites and blacks, and
between men and women, but while dong thst, tney
recognized Gods great rule, " All men We're created
equal" .,a
80 the white man in natural state and also held that
The Federal Government possessed sovereign Soh,ei
over the Territories. Would he therefore, under TINS
sovereign power in organizing the Territorial SoVerh