Worcester daily spy. [volume] (Worcester [Mass.]) 1850-1888, 1859-10-27
THE MANN STATUE QUESTION IN THE HOUSE
"Wednesday Oct Dc

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In the House, the resolve relating to the
Mann statue was placed before the members
by the speaker, who stated that i'll his opinion
the paper was not regularly before the House.
Mr.. Clifford Of New Bedford moved that the
House recede from its proviso.
Mr.. Johnson Of Abingdon raised the point of
order that a motion to recede was not i'll order,
having been put on Il previous day.
The Chair ruled against the point of order.
Mr.. Kmball of Boston appealed from the
ruling of the Chair.
Mr. Peabody of Lynn was in favor of the
House adhering to its former action. He did
not wish to have the resolve killed by any par
liamentary tactics. He should sustain the
ruling Of the Chair.
Mr.. Morgan Of Beverly did not agree with
the last speaker, and thought votes enough
had been taken upon it.
Mr. Kmball defended his position on the
ground that the ruling of the Chair was wrong
and against the rules Of the House.
Mr.. Goodwin Of Lowell sustained the decis-
ion of the Chair.
Mr.. Lothrop Of Boston regretted that the
Speaker had found it necessary to ruI. against
his own convictions.
MIR. Spotford of Newburyport, sustained the
appeal and said the question had assumed pro,
portions which affected the rights OF every
minority. He protested in strong terms
against the ruling of the Speaker as viola"
ton of parliamentary rules, and said the peo-
pie Of the State would not indorse such ae-
ton.
Mr. Ham of Natick, was surprised at the
zeal of gentlemen for the maintenance of strict
parliamentary law, when that law had been
repeatedly violated within few, days. He
sustained the chair and believed the people of
the Commonwealth would endorse most
heartily, the ruling of the Speaker.
MIR. Tucker of Boston was surprised that the
| gentleman from Lowell had manifested, for the
first time, such sympathy for the Speaker. If
Horace Mann were alive, he would sheer at
the idea of trampling upon parliamentary rules.
Mr. Tucker opposed the ruling Of the Chair.
Referring to Mr. kmball he said that if he
continued in his course, he would be Mayor of
Boston.
Mr.. Kimball of Boston spoke with unusual
warmth in reply to what he called insinuations
against his motives in appealing from the
| Chair (called to order by the Chair as unpar-
liamentary.) He supposed he had right to
be as unparliamentary as the Speaker and
those who had impugned his motives lie
| was in favor of placing the statue of Mann in
the grounds OF the State House, and while he
could not bow to the one now placed there, he
could to that of Mr.. Mann; but he must do
| right, and meant to record vote in favor of
| the appeal, if he should be in minority of one.
The Speaker explained his position, auding
to parliamentary usage, and said there was
| great doubt upon the question, and he had
thought it his duty to place the paper before
the House, with the desire to facilitate bust
| ness.
The appeal was laid upon the table without
| a count
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the table, and called for the yeas and nays, but
they were lost. The motion to take from the
table was also lest
The question REQUIRED on the motion of Mr..
Clifford, that the House recede from its pro-
yiso, viz, that the statue OF Mr.. Mann be APP
proved by the Legislature.
The yeas and nays were taken, with the fol.
lowing result Yeas, 10 nays, 99--and SO
the House receded.-IraUeHey.