The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-03-17
THE EVACUATION or THE ROMAN STATES.
Additional Explanations In the British Par
liament-The Withdrawal O( the Troops
Net n Solution of the Question.

Additional Explanations In the British Par
llsment-The Withdrawal O( the Troops
Net n Solution of the Question.
In the House OF lords the 18th of February the Earl
Of CI,sspoN said-I wish to ask question of my noble
friend the Secretary Of State for Foreign Aars Of which
have given him notice, with respect TO discrepancy
between the statement OF my noble friend and staemsnt
by the right honorable gentleman the Chancellor OF tho
Exchequer in the House Of Commons, Friday night, the
importance of which my noble friend will admit. On Fri
day night the Chancellor OF the Exchequer said
baye satisfaction in informing the noble lord that have
received which give hope hatere
r and ta roo with the concurrence Of tho papsi govern
The fair ference-ndeed the only possole inference
for that statement that France and Austria had de-
teimned to evacuate the Papa territory, and that the
Papal government approved their doing 80. That such
was the impression produced was shown by the speech
OF Lord John Russell, who immediately followed and who
Said
rejoice 70 find that her Mses.ys have taken
that view of Their that they in faora
BILE situation to their influence and TO give advice those
Powers with whom differences have asento tell both
ihs affairs Of Europe Bnt we have heard rom
SS ns ish ag S Gng ss s
which as taken place and hat Is the intention OF those great
That was the impT esson MAZE on the House OF Com
mons and as the right honorable gentleman, tho Chan
ceor ofthe Eychcquer, took 10 contradict
modify the view which Lord John Russell took OF his
statement that impression remained But short time
ater te DISCUSSION ma closed IN the House OF commons
my noble irlend on being asked question in this House,
staed follows
hayeno objection to state tha. her ajesys government.
have received which give the reason to be-
heve that within dsan period OF time the armies France
The Chancellor Of the Exchequer says the armies will
be Withdrawn with the concurrence Of the Papal
ment ny noble friend says they VIII be withdrawn at
the request OF the Papa government The discrepancy
quite GEAR and may be of very great Importance be-
cause, II the French and Austrian governments have
agreed 10 withdraw their troops, and Gc cpproccd
By he lo'aon States, e,e is end Of tae qiestion;
nothing remains TO be done except, perhaps to the
time within which the Papa territories be cvacuat-
cd. But If no communication whatever has taken place
between tbe French and Austrian governments on the
II into
pose, and the Pope SIMPLY desires that their troops
should be Withdrawn, the case may assume
i would universally be desired, that those two
Powers would not persist In continuing TO protect state
which declares win protect ITSELF and dhenceforward does
not want thoIn But IL easy 20 that contingencies
may arise h.a Frame and Atria may not ayres e
mode an which nc evacuation Is 10 BE- carried os or E
one o. oier MAY nloss conditions on the Pope hich he
aoytlinl no conststtnt h his dignity 10 gront, and that
h qvssio, may saH inser as that sde g suspense 'chich
has an ready lcosae so dange9 ous 10 Eop (ear hear)
Therefore, II my noble friend secs no objection shalt
take the liberty to ask him wha. is the Information which
has been received by her Maesty's government; and
the more anxious that this information Should be given
IN order that no discrepancy may the cicc Ct the dis
cussion Friday night, which, like the the first
night o the session, must be most beneficial throughout
Europe, by showing the perfect unaniinity with which
mon Of all parties desire that the faith Of treaties should
be martaned nvioate and peace secured by removing
all preIencc for war (Chccrs)
The Earl Of MAspssuRy said-I am extremely glad to
give every information IN my power my noble friend
and to tho House, but think his observation as 10 the
discrepancy between what stated by my right honor
able friend in the House Commons and my answer 70
my right reverend friend in this House, assumes rather
the shape OF dftncton wtlouta difference We meant
exactly the same thing and at that time knowledge
was coained 10 the fact that the rapal government had
requested, OF It's own wiand not from any hint from
either of the other Powers, us ocieve--but however
hatmay be- Ind requested the evacuation OF its terrific
res both by Austria and France. ! said believed
that before long those territories would be evacuated and
il was 10 great piece OF creulity my part because
cannot conceive that requested by the Papal States
withdraw, either France or Austria would hesitate mo-
he
Of the Papa States had requested their absence There
fore, both my right honorable friend aud myself
justified in saying that, having received a commun
cation that the Pore desired the evacuation OF his
territories, that evacuation would soon take place.
But we had besides that, and previous 10 the
Communication being made, received general
inmation nom AUSTRIA that IL the Pope desired the
evacuation she was ready TO comply with his request.
We had also received from France general state
men viz that she also dcsrous to withdraw from
Italy. and that If Austria aso agreed to withdraw and
the popo wished them to withdraw, she would evacuate
these territories. But since addressing you lorlshtos he
otr 9a TIE French ambassador has called he and
stated at Ae request has ten made, and Tie French gorrn-
mlrtGrc uiuing and anxious 70 lcildrow their tyoogs
have not received any further communications from the
Austrian government. but doubt that Austria
will 10 the same slasmuch time ago she stated
wha, have now stated TO your lordships. or course
movement OF this importance cannot take place in few
days, or without some previous arrangements. With
peel 70 those arrangements any conditions 10 which
the noble Earl has alluded, any made am not in
position TO inform your lorshps, because my knowledge
Is restricted 70 the fact which stated the other night
namely, that e Pope has demanded he cracuation ef his
hTlo'es and therefore con concers reason excuse
fog hos, forces remdissng. clear, hear)
Lord BRot tGiLM said-Whetacr the statement made by
TIE noble Earl was the same a statement elsewhere
viii not stop TO INQUIRE; at all events have
rccty but hope may be allowedto ask my noble friend
whether the ornaments going upon other side
OF thc Channe and whether not correct In the sup
position ana bol that those aimamen,s would really have
been gong ON Independently OF the late differences that
nave arsen and, in all probability, although nothing that
has passed had taken placcy My iuiormaton-ani nopc
ana uust " well oundod for have IL high altho
ray ana 'hat authority moi frencis that the condition
oil the magazines and the state OF preparation in france
were such that great changes were required and great
improvements ia their means OF dcscnCo-or offence as
some may ploasc 10 think them-indcpende of any.
tnng that has happened since tho first January. am
sure mat my noble friend and the clearly
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