New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-08-23


Mr.. Viii .ms, accompanied d, or. O.. Wales and Mr.
&. Smith, the SecIetsrse.
Mr. Tle, 10. T., 10 'uroiocirg The depUta,iou stated
that TIE mater builders mad GO nyht ugut looking
the state at which hS 4rO ye tnat the
right honorable ge,tewsu, ~ II, az Sc etary shouts
he niormed O AL fhe clrCu fsf4 which bal lei -
tie present dilereuc-s hetse-u TOE builders and th-r
opere,ives-not toai they aLuoips,d tho G0vernmen,
would Interfere but III Il tey sAoni he tnoron ghly
for0ec Of the e'ure Of the qleirr a Issue. L,rd
Brtugh su had suggested Ia tine House " Lords that
probably 90 0O0 neo .oud pe thr1~D out of employ
1 by this m ycne 2 a'd he tNr Tiie) bs Al been
Informed that tb,t was rot a. exaggerated esti.
mate Ii Gight b. calssr that Fses to the extent
If something like .EiUt,tOO n week we're lost che
working classes lie begged "a -sy that be hal the
sres,et possible respec tt the builders class. Ne
Lad known them through a, aut he could testify TO
their worth, honor aud general bsn-yo-cce IL bad
similar respeo; also for he sork neo whom he had 81
ways found Industrious iniel. eut suo tractsble bat
Vi them be had bad, comparatively Speaking, Little
10 90. In 1871 he rsmen's hDdrs nf labor we're
shCisped on Sstud days b. r,t of mu-usl agreement
the men from that tlu'e leaving off SOIk S4urisys
a O'Clock, instead Of hail past > as before At pres
ett the men b,gsp sok ~ o'clock 10 the morning
AID continued ii eight Ttey tlen h.d hsf hour
for breakfast They resumed - III, oss and worked
till H. shen they sd oil bonr for dinner Pn-y began
again at aud conuu-d ull baiipa,t s. Their labor,
theIeffe, amoDDtt q t. 10 bOurs day on five days
tie week, end Il on he -ix'h.
Sir G.. c. Lesi-Arc tho-e hOurs In de perdert of the
time Of the year, are they the s4'ue IN Wioter
Mr.. Tlte cOuiinueo: As general rule, those were
the hours all throug The year. Toe poseot movemeot
begsn by the wOikmen 0eDsndus TO be aio sed TO
Iesve Off work hoor earlier thaa AZ present-that
wa. 10 eay to work hours instead Of ten, aad to
receive the same wsges TOese ~eges were %. OIL
per day for skilled rkmeu aud 50. 3D. per day for la
borers. II appeared to have been agreed among the
men that they should strike against udvi iual masters
in detail for the ATTACHMENT OF this reduction in the
hours Of labor, ana 10 pu-Usncs Of that system the
strike at present conided to M-ssrs. Trolopes.
SIR G.. C. Lewis-Ehey have hot struck generally,
then
Mr. Tite-No; bot their Intention appeared to be TO
strike against the err ole at tune. The masters
had met this by clorg their doors altogether until
Nessrs Trolope were enabled TO resume their gorks
Sir G. c. Lewis ten all work has cesse 1 now
Mr.. Trte said that h ie@ exceptions it had
ceased 1T all the large builders. Having made these
few remarks be would leave one OF the employers 10
enter more fully into he c4se.
The gentleman alluded to "a bu der employing about
eco hzuds) wished the rgbt honor *be gentleman TO
III dersand that they bad Dot tet upon bim vi any
expectation that tue Government would Interfere, or
with any oesire for legislaon upon TIE subject, uoesS
circumstances should after tn render sDch
course necessary Il must be obvious to every one who
considered the subject that this vac not 80 much
builders question public one, because IT genera
adv ance Of wages Obt.Ded by tue @orkmen, the
employers of the buiders-tbe Pub'c-must eventual
Iy pay IT. Therefore, although As REGARDED existing
contracts the matter personal One II was not SO
beyond that The affair oat been brought TO lie pres
ent position, bo@ever by the 'ceiei ot tue opera
fives which II ned for C arl abe Objects aud
were registered being diverted to purpOaes totally at
variance with Their ostensible obeet- Tine peakef
here explained the rule amoos the bickl4yers, when
forbade them putting the tIOse oat OF the right and
~ Ssts;Isd in Tne J5,ges az Yesterday
Sir G. c. LIE xis-The object b-iog, Of course, to di
nnish the power of working AID 10 increase the mum
Der of persons employed
The Member of the Depu alton sad that was pre-
s.seIy the object Si'uIaf OBJECTIONABLE rules applied
TO other details Of wOk, out THE was sufficient 10
q. - ,ahd 90 ffncb an ex,e,t "a 4, embarrass the
ro"esdfnos Of the bni.ers and 10 pdnce ueafly 300
.l - Tho "a r of ono spol, rise nent 4,
=, - Wv g, III r. n,.s 90 ,,att;n, "a az inc thrsltom
49, III u: =. p ilnt orna ,o tim ,vbicb n adj
- ~ 60 -, an T., ,;eo.s inst .oty if n we're
-. 80 80 :, o. q ,,..n. - coe,cn, the work ing
soue'' " -, %, =, - 90 ia ,ba eonn,o0ers az the
. - - ., - ,...s.3 MN man, ana "a soon
II Svontt Gee ,ss 10 be He stated
as .a as =, ohssrvs.inrs ch.rrng then with
1'ee,;ry combjpntion by combuat 90. T0ey had been
,;ysn 10 adon, TIN. step by stes Of citcunstaoces
ard henev,i those ceased To be tue
,c.,;,, wonld c-ase to ,xst. ii .Vlng taken this
cou,.e the bnilde had th hit their duty to
txnIai TO The Governn nt WY they hal done SO aad
why they made the rule # exclusion nom Their "'ik7,
t,d not belong 10 the niou as sell rs those who did
twas from having a,cerlainod beyond dispute that
cortr butiops were beng made by al the operatives
society men and noh-sOciey men lodi-cr'nhoateiy-'o
support the strlke At Messrs. lrolloPes. III was
tbpeht necessary therefore to close all their works,
iectose if the conbiuat 90 successful at Messes
TIolOpe's the seue course would be pursued toward
the OF er builders in turn.
Sir G.. & Lewis see; they would take you 10 ue-
tail Won mean. The ground on which You close your
wo,k tbep ia respecvey of previous questions, the
S.mard of 10 hours LAY for 9 hours work
The Member of the Deputa' ion-No doubt but the
.mnlcvers would not have tasen such step oat Tor
Az cnmuls,iye CASE lie should be happy to answer
anv questions that the Home Secretary might wish to
mi
l..or .1,ofI tax.a inv ana