New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-04-15
: pssA CARLISLE, Tie .M ef slave might be evan
~ sgkisyt her kass<sd.
n JsSSe-H nust be 20, because slaves caneet ceb-


M s:sr:ss- Precisely; tia, ia the poitt
) Mr. C.r,>le-A: the sane time, the ns'ursl relsons
bstsesn the Slave busbasd and ~ife recognized.
VAsevey else migh have expected 20 be affected by
tAe derpseis-on Of TIE Law made for slave nan as
apyb. 10 freeman, his Honor would rot be snected
byiL he -bIew how much Il was sorth. 10 tn1t
ssss 81 John, the Court said that not only the
svsSenos was iDsfmsgibe on the pont o. 10
escisg the ofeDse from murder 10 maSslsnsnTt,
eat that there wa, ,5e plaise.t imphGS."n 'Ia'
vas rot sdmssibre ON TIE point ol ih
Asrs, In that case the offer wa rot 70 prove ina,
ne prisoner bad been inform d thai tee sneiDeiy I'M
saksB place bot the offer wa, 10 prove tasS sduIey
1e sDe TIE evidence 20. g,e o. Anpesis dee;sei
tAst no evidence which the prisoner hsd been eeuoI
to inf1odoce vas rejected. How oon'o tney sy -,
a. fact "A a. adultery having been comnlite1 90 11 AZ
e. tbs ,.n;rx or insanity q the prisoner Do gentle
r,T nan "a say that II the evidence vas nmatens,
eitss h poist Of Justification or 10 point OF insaoiy'
~ Court Of Appesb would not nave declared u az
= .Ste 7 II was toe daty Of the Joige, If be sees
20. tbe evidence susceptible Of having aoy operation
q Inc eefepse bsd been rejected 10 remand the case,
az der the evidence TO Dc admitted NORTH arons,
yer was DO. 30 fast a State as Nev-YOrk; BAT the
Of Law there had sOunnbess foundation which he
esd be liked. The judges there bad not arrived
. point Of admitting evidence: not that msn
q, DAD, but tsst be ooP BIT 70 have been NAL Tnat
the point here GsDtIeDer might nee all their To-
srsity but they cond not escape this precise issue
SWss The prisoner inssne"-Iot: "Ought he 70 have
bs.n mtaDe II the effect vas sboro qut bono
4s tQefe whether there hh1 been enhclsDt ctuec 70
ssi am mad. Let them prove, If bis HonOr thought
Il nsieris not tbs. the prisoner had been informed
osrtan state Of facts bat that the facts did really
sxst-
Mr. Stanton read part Of the case of John 10 Irede
tefsred TO IN the Argument, TO show that the evil
ience which was rejected uncer the heh OF Jusnncs-
ten was admitted under the hesd OF iossoty. As the
Ttxons Of unset 70 Slavery hsd been referred 70 ne
vsuH state here that he had the blood Of ssvehoding
psrepts In his veips-his father bad been Noftn
Csrobri.n and bis mother vrgnian.
Nj CsrKsle-Tbst 10 an Interesting fact, which
ksns ALL be cbropicled Ike all other things that take
pjse, here 20 that when the gentleman TO hsve
II. ograpby written, that feet may be menaooed 10
o. ction With the doctrine which he has expressed
maintained IN this Gaze.
ar Stanton-rh doctrines which he has maintain
ed here In defence OF homes end families sil be the
presSest sgacy be will leave to his children. (sup-
Hesseo sppisuse)
ths earn. stpess Of the gentemaB 70 his doctrines
but N ss the esrnesne,s and Gre With which these
eossosions are announced are 70 be taken Is indics
tess OF their soundpess shall beg leave N consider
them AZ opinions ar declarations IN themse ves. vi
the manner and vehicle in which they are brought TO
pstice, ] DO not agree with the gentleman, ard am
ssre he does not expect me 10 agree with him.
Mr.. Stanton Certainly not appeal 10 the hearts
M. CsIhsle-Tbere are a great variety Of human
AesJts IN this World.
Mr. stanton-Yes, Sir; and some Of them very bad
n. Carlsle-And / am happy to say that mine
Sees no, ,nisn many things which seem 10 exist in
Tie hearts Of other people, though like all other
hsDsn hearts, suppose it il filed With much that
NJ. Stspton-H would be better were something
else 10 Il.
TIE Judge-Realy, gentlemen, this thing must be
Mr.. Cubsle-I an addressing myself to your honor,
and shall say no about this, because really
feel quite Indifferent to the observations made, and
shall take 10 farther note of them.
Mr.. btanton--Then proceed with your argument.
M Carlisle closed his argument against the adisa
bihty o. the evidence.
Tie Jnoge-The proposition, as understand It, is
20 receive the ev dence Of a conmunica ion made by
Ae wipese the stand to the prisoner 10 prove or
70 aid in proving the insanity Of the prisoner at the
time Of the commission of the Oisnse. Tnst 10 the
distinct and single ground on which the prosecution Is
~ 9Nh.
Mr.. stanton Precisely.
Judge-I wish that TO be marked, because my opin-
.sos might vary in particular aspects and donOt want
&c commit mys self mole thsn is necessary.
Mr.. Stanton-Thst is the precise point we occupy.
Judge-I think this evidence, offered as link IN the
chain TO prove insanity is not receivable. The Jury
arc w Judge how far insanity exists strengthened oy
evidence Of acts such usually characterize de.
rasgement Of mind, II proved; bat the communica
tons Of b TO the prisoner, or any gwen NUMBER OF
person. offered in regard 70 insanity, cannot think,
70 to the Jury.
Exception taken.
M. Stsnton-Win your Honor be good enough to
20 meet your Honors views on that point. Your
Homer says it cannot be admitted on the point OF In
sanity.
Jsage-As tending to produce insanity, as a cause
Mat would probably induce insanity.
Mr. Stanton-But IL coupled with evidence OF in
sane acts hat then All that we desire 10 70 get in
evidence that will save the prisoner life. Ot course
the Jury TO be the ultimate determiners OF the
faes II there be any view in which we can get It in
We would be glad to be informed Of it by the Court.
The Judge-I 20 NO further than to give this par
tcaar opinion because foresee tast there will be
great many discussions on this point, and i do not
oheose TO commit myseh incidentally.
Mr. Stanton-Can your Honor suppose any given
state Of facts which connected with tais proof would
The Judge-I viii not touch that.
Mr.. S.antop-Then your Honor Will allow rs TO go
On and find IL out.
The Judge-Wbepever you reach stage where
ycu think any particular piece OF evidence 10 sdms-
sbe You can offer il, and the Court will decide H.
M Stsnton-You Honor will recollect that We are
trying TO get In evidence 10 save the prisoners life.
Mr. Brady-In order to prevent its being said here
afer that the change Of Mr.. Sckless mind on Satur'
day was produced by a commut cation referring TO
some subject other than that which in point of
fact made offer IL in distinct form TO prove this
that this witness had communicated TO MIR. Sickles
that on the Thursday, the I'D of February, preceding
the deoease of Mr. Key, Mr.. Key had gone with Mrs.
&ekes tc house in Fifteenth street, in Washington,
which was hired by Mr. Key for the exclusive purpose
Of having there aduerous Intercourse with her that
Mr. Sickes having Investigated II at statement made
by Mr.. Woodbridge ascertsined that Mrs. Scsles hsd
not been there Thursday bat was there on Weines-
day with ~. Key, and they were seen by the whole
peighborhsod and that It was the revelations by Mr.
Woodrdes 10 Mr. Sckles Of the fact that he had Ssde
q mistake ir the day that removed from the mind Of
Mr.. Sicklee he presumption that his wife was Eno-
cent and preluced the conviction that she was guilty.
The Judge made me morandun Of the question, end
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