The daily exchange. [volume] (Baltimore, Md.) 1858-1861, 1859-03-12
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street and then came back to South street; when
witness was stansing on the Telegraph corner he
saw two men pass down South street and then Hop
pie and Baker; just then Luke Leake came along and
nudged witness, and said don't you see nothing 2"
witness said he did, John Lutz was on the corner
when witness was; saw William Baker, Thetford
ana TWO others going down South street; Luke
Leake walked on down after them on the opposite
side OF the street; Lutz went on down behind
Leake..
Cross-examined by Mr.. Preston-When witness
saw these men 1t may have been in the early part of
June witness stopped in New York and went over
to Brooklyn every day; witness searched
everywhere through Brooklyn where it was likely
to see these men, but witness did not 90 either to
Ihettords or Bakers house; witness went to
Brooklyn three days; the first dav STAYED there
four hours; the second day remained there until
about ten O'Clock at night, and the third dav re-
manned there four five hours; this was early in
the month OF April; can't fix the day of the week
when witness met these men at 81 Fayette street
don't recolect that Baker pointed to Thetford and;
said that he had invented gutta percha Railroad
Car, ana that they were on their way to Washing
ton TO take out a caveat; there no other CON
versatiOn but what witness before stated; witness
went to Brooklyn by request of Mr.. Pratt and Mr.
Benner; witness paid his own expenses; by witness
persuasion they consented that witness should 90 on
witness borrowed the money to 60 from Mr. Ben
ner; did not refund the money; Mr.. Pratt has wit
ness note Tor 1t now; never these men after
that until they were arrested witness was satisfied
that these men were the parties who committed the
robbery, and therefore went to New York.
By Mr.. Wmtney-lf witness had succeeded in
making the arrests, he would have been compen-
sated for it; that was the understanding.
Luke Leake, sworn-Live at No. II Water street;
have been employed in detective police office;
have been in the office of Mr.. SNYDER; SNYDER &
Cook; and Snyder German; have been so EN-
ployed or years; during this time have be-
come acquainted with both these men; have known
Hoppe five or six years; don't know Baker by name
was In Baltimore at the time of the robbery; on
Nor
something to eat when witness came out no
tced three men going down South street: saw
Hoppe and two men he did not know, 90 into the
Farmers and llanters' Bank witness knew they
mad no bus sness there; witness went over to Eely's
corner, and afterwards saw them come ont. ono
man had a package in his hand; the largest man of
them had the package, and he passed it to another
one OF them; witness thought there was something
wrong, and Immediately started for SQUIRE Mearis'
ONCE to see the officers there; the men were then
IN the middle of The street, going towards Lovely
Lance witness ran to Mears' office and found no
one there's came back to near the Bank and hunt
ed about the neighborhood for about an hour, but
saw nothing of the men afterwards; did
not see Church go into the Bank or come
out of it; did not know him then; witness
saw these men again in Baltimore after the rob-
pery; saw them IN South street and pointed them
out to German; the second time witness saw them
he came up Fayette street; saw three men standing
on the corner opposite the Chesapeake Bank: Thet.
lord, Baker and another; witness went down the
street and met Erasmus Levy, and told him they
were the men who did the work: Levy did not he
lleve they were thieves; witness pointed them TO
Reed and German too; these men were taken from
witness by LutZ, who told witness he better stop
this thing, else he would get in trouble. and if he
would let it alone it would be all ripht. witness
means by them being taking away from him. thar
ne tired to have them arrested, and told several of
hcers to do so, but they would not do it: witness
was not an officer at the time
Cross examined by Mr.. Preston.-Know a man
DE the of Dennis h. 1
asked witness for any money yesterday; witnes told
Lynch he would be able to pay him after the trial;
am able to pay him now; witness don't know wheth-
er this Is any OF cOunsePS business
Jeremiah w. Higgins, sworn.-Reside in Brook
lyn, New York; am dedective police officer; have
resided in Brooklyn % years; know the prisoners
at the bar; known Thetford Is or l6 years; knew
Baker by sight but short time before his arrest;
witness arrested Thetford and Baker, it was after the
10Th Of March; witness thinks he saw Thetford in
April; he had on moustache and whiskers mixed
grey and black; he had no moustache on two davs
before his arrest, and his hair was darker than
usual; arrested Thetord the Sd or 4th of August
witness had been looking for Thetford previous to
this; Baker was arrested five days after Thetford;
arrested Baker at his house at Green Point; saw
hln coming across the fields with another man and
60 into his house, witness then went in and arrested
him.
estate Thetfords character and reputation dur
ing the time you have known him.
Mr. Preston objected
Mr. w ultneN waived the question,
Gross examined by Mr.. Preston.-Haye been n
detective officer since June 1858, under the Metro
polltan poice was deputy Sheriff for three years
previous, and previous to that time was detective
under the old force: Baker was arrested on the
9th of August; Green Point is about two miles and
nan from Ihettord's house; witness was close by
BAKERS house for some days previous watching for
MIN; was not at his house at the time he was ar
rested; the arrest of Baker was made between nine
and ten O'Clock; witness had no process in his
hn l,,1
requlsltlon in my hands previous to this
TO arrest him: witness don't think he had been
IN the nelghborhood of Bakers house for six months
previous to the time he was watcbino for Rakpr.
withln the SIX months previous to Bakers arrsst
witness saw him twice in Brooklyn: those were the
only tmes witness ever saw him; have never at
tended Green Point Masonic Lodge 4O3: when wit
ness arrested Baker, ne took him to the Deputv
Supcrintendent's Office and then to New York to
the Mayors office; Marshal Stevens was there; wit
ness then took him to Brooklyn and locked him up;
witness did not bring him to MARYLAND: the pris-
Oner was taken from witness in New York and
Drought on here; witness took the prisoner back to
New \ ork after taking him to Brooklyn; he was
delIvered in Recorder Barnett's office in New y ork
to Mr.. Madison Jeifers; it was in the afternoon;
Two or three days after his arrest, witness went to
tne Jersey City Ferry with Mr.. Jefiers; a man was
with Mr.. Jettcrs at the time whom witness did not
know; ascertained since that his name was Lew:
witness did not see Baker after until he saw him
here
BY Mr.. Whitney-"State to the iurv wbv vou
did not 90 to Bakers house during the five days Won
were watching for hm?"
MIR. Preston objected.
The Court sustained the objection.
Mr. Whitney-"Describet the appearance of John
Cooper"
Mr. Preston objected.
The Court admitted the testimony
recess for fifteen minutes.
Witness Ontinued.-COOper is n larre stout man !
weighs from $50 to 200 pounds round features:
have seen him with his whskers pretty dark, and
sometimes grey; have seen his hair pretty dark and
at other times mixed with grey.
William Reid, sworn.-Am constable of Balti-
more; was called upon to make an arrest of some
parues by Luke Leake; it was sometime after this
robDery; witness went with Leake to the corner of
South and Second streets; witness was pointed out
iour men; the parties were Thetford, Baker,
tall slender man, and a large pussv
man, man with no beard; saw this last named
man about six weeks ago on Pratt street; saw these
men on the corner of Second and South streets:
hoppe had a moustache at that time, his hair was
not grey, but black; Hoppies hair was always dark
when witness saw him; this was in July or Aurust
It was after the robbery, about two month; saw
Lutz TOO at that time; Leake called upon witness
as an officer to arrest these parties.
Cross-eXamined by Mr.. Preston-Am an officer
OF the 4th ward; been nearly four years; wit
ness can't say whether it was before or after din
ner when Leake called on him; never spoke to
Ihettord; saw Thetford once at the Philadelphia
Depot; this since witness was an officer: when
witness sees man whom he thinks is a thief he
generally notices him; he saw Thetford in company
OF thieves then; witness can't tell exactly when
1T was that he saw the parties Gtting's corner;
this was the first conversation witness ever had
with Leake about this matter.
Charles Cochran, sworn-Am receiving teller of
the Farmers and Planters Bank; witness position
III front of the door facing South street: witness
recolects the day of the robbery; witness was in
the vault at his time; if witness was attending to
his duties at his desk, he could not have seen the
package and book which had been placed on the
desk witness in the vault when he heard of the
robbery; witness was in the vault from fifteen to
twenty minutes
MI w WhItney.-"Did you receive any description
OF the appearance of three parties who seen in
the Bank upon that day?"
Mr.. Preston objected to the testimony.
Mr.. Whitney said he would show that there was
a colored boy in the Bank at the time of the rob
berry, and saw men, answering to the description of
the prisoners, enter the Bank and afterwards des-
cribed these men to Mr.. Cochran.
The Court said Mr.. Cochran could answer the
question.
Witness continued were three parties
described to witness on that day, as having been in
the Bank.
Cross-examined by Mr.. Preston-Witness don't
know that $4,000 Virginia money was placed in
the custody of the Bank by Mr.. Church: witness
assisted In searching for the money; searched on
the desks and under the desks and in the drawers:
the search was continued until O'Clock; don't re-
member if any search made after the Bank was
closed; don't know If any course has been taken to
hold the Bank responsible for this loss; the cashier
has charge of the minutes and letters of the Bank;
Mr. Pratt Is Director in the Bank; witness thinks
he Is large stockholders; there was meeting of
the Board of Directors held next day in regard to
the loss of the funds; Mr. Rutter has charge of the
pook containing the proceedings of this meeting
William Ii. Stevens, sworn.-Reside in the city
OF New ork; am the first Marshal of the city and