The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-02-19
unemployed steamshlps at thls Rort.

EIGHTEEN OCEAN STEAMSHIPS LYING IDLE AT rHE .
PORT OF NEW YoRK-THE REASONS wHY--rHEIK .
vALUE--wHAT Is PROPOSED TO BE DONE WITH
TnEM, ETC., ETC.
There are now lying idle at the port Of New York no
less than eighteen steamships Of which have
been unemployed for years. and not one has been used
during the winter They the Ariel America, Adratic,
Atlantic, Baltic, Canada, Daniel Webster, Ericsson Fall
con- Georgia, North Star, Northern Light, Ohio Ocean
Queen, Victoria, Vanderbilt St. Louis, and Star OF tho
West And Of all these there prospect Of employment
talk of employment, Immediately, for but 6ve-the
America, Canada, Northern Light, Star Of the West,
and Ocean Queen
First the list the Adratic Baltic and Atlantic,
Of the famous Collins line, the climax Of Ameri
can shipbuilding. They the first TO give
eeat to marine enterprise, and their per-
formapces in their pamiest days gave world wide
celebrity to our shipbuiders and shipowners. They
are valued by their owners at no less than two mill
lion four hundred thousand dollars Yet the miserable
pasmony Of the Congress Of United Sateshas allowed
these noble vessels withdrawn, and since the
FIRST Of April 1857 they have been lying idle at DOCKS
As yet there have been definite proposals for their
use: that must in depend upon the action OF
Congress the arrangements for the postal service The
former compensation Of $4,000 per trip considered
too little for the SERVICE and could not enable the compa
ny to run the line in competition with the Cunardcrs The
Adratc, 81 900 900; Atlantic, S7O0oo0 Baltic, S7000
Commodore Vanderbilt has less than ocean steam
ships at present lying at this port unempoyedthe Arcl
North STAR Vanderbilt Daniel Webster Ocean Queen and
Northern Light The Ariel, North Star and Vanderbilt
have last been running in the New York, Bremen and
Havre line. The reason Of their withdrawal Is sup.
posed by some TO be merely on account Of the.
WINTER and the difficulty Of ascending the weser in that
But those who profess TO know what the Conn
because is useless to continue effort to compete with
the British government that the amounts 70 be received
under the present postal regulations but onehrd Of
the allowance of the British to the Cunarders,
who thus enabled TO carry freight at loss until they
kill opposition, and then themselves at their
prices The opposition cannot without losing
great deal Of money, and could not without the
stimulus that the regular mail line has, The Commodore
says that the British government is enabled TO this,
because it contracts large debts which it pays,
while he, the contrary, like honest man, pays his
debts and has to quit business enterprise when don't
pay The ships Of the Bremen and Havre line are there
FORE supposed to be awaiting for something to up'
though Madame Rumor says that there possibility Of
their being used in the California line, goes into
operation. The Ariel is valued at $500 000 the North
Star at $500 900, and the Vanderbilt at 81 100000.
The Daniel Webster formerly ran in the Commo-
dores opposition TO the mail line between Aspinwall,
San Juan and New Orleans, and was withdrawn with
that line She likewise said TO be waiting for something
to turn up. An offer recently made for her, TO
in the New Orleans and New York line account of the
sprightly movement Of feghs in that direction giving
the regular steamers than they do; but the
Commodore asked too high price for her. and the bar
gain not closed She valued at about two hundred
thousand dollars The Ocean Queen vessel, built
for Charles Morgan and bought by Mr. Vanderbilt before
she finished last year; she is nearly large the
Vanderbilt and has capacity for freight and passen-
gers She originally intended for the Pacific trade
and afterwards fitted up for the European trade and ia
valued at $500 0O0 Her original was to be the
Queen Of the Pacific, Mr. Vanderbilt changed it to the
Ocean Queen We believe never been registered
yet she has all her coal board ready to sail for
any port in the world at short notice. Rumor says she
is getting ready for the Pacific.
The Northern Light is advertised to sail on the 10th Of
March in vanderbilts opposition line to California to
connect with the Uncle Sam at the Ishmus She ran in
the Havre and Bremen line last year, and laid up In
the fall because it didn't pay. She has been thoroughly
overhauled this winter and excellent condition.
She is valued at s600000
The Star Of the West belongs to NJ. o. Roberts Co.,
and is advertised to 60 In the California mail line on the
Goth inst She has been laid up November for re-
pairs, and is kept by the company extra steamship.
The St. Louis belongs to the Pacific Mail Steamship Conn
pany and Is kept extra eamer running TO Aspin.
wall when necessary She is rather small for that trsde
Her estimated value $3.50 OOO and there is no
regular employment for her.
The Ohio and Georgia supposed to belong TO NJ O.
Roberts Co.. and formed part Of the famous Sloo con-
tract They formerly the California Mail Steamship
line, and will lie idle doubtless until the expiration of the
contract in November They have been unemployed since
1884, and valued at 500 each-rather high The
Ericsson the we'll known caorc experiment. afterwards
altered into steamship She is owned, believe, by
John B. Kitchen, Of E. W. Durham and Mr.. Low
ber She has been used steamer in the COL
Inns line and several special occasions, the last being
the famous excursion Of the Seventh regiment 10 Rich.
mond in July last to attend the Monroe obsequies She
is estimated TO be worth $4,000.
The Falcon formerly belonged TO H. O. Roberts Il Co..,
and for long time ran in their line. She was sold By
them for $l06o to Edgar Sprague and by him sold to
somebody else Her engines and boilers have been taken
out, and we believe a large spent in repairs
The America and Canada are two steamships which
were formerly used on Lake Ontario in connection with
the Grand Trunk Railway. They built Of American
wood, and with American engines, though nomnaly Of
English build. There not therefore, much trouble in
getting them naturaized They estimated to be worth
s250o0 each Rumor says they will be used TO connect
with new route to California, via the Isthmus Of Tehu-
antepec, under the guardian Of Hargous Co. The
arrangements, however, are not yet completed.
The Victoria is small propeller Of two hundred and
graph Company and has made several trips between this
port and St. Johns She has been laid up months.
She built in 1885, and is probably worth $50 600.
Since the failure of the telegraph expedition the
company has had little use for her.
The value Of these vessels may be up as fol-
lows according to the rather liberal estimates Of ther
owners
Adratic, Collins c................s1 900, 900
Atlantic, ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. 100000
Baltic, NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS., 100000
Vanderbilt, Vanderbits Havre ne........ 100000
North Star, 60 F" ........... 100000
Ariel, I" ........... 100000
Daniel Webster, &c NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS.. 100000
Ocean Queen, g OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES. 100000
Northern Light, " Observation-Disclosures. 100000
Star OF the West, NJ. o. Roberts Co. 100000
st. Louie, Pacific Mail Steamship Co. ...... $4,000
Canada, Hargous ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. 100000
America, @ Observation-Disclosures. 100000
Ericsson Observation-Disclosures. 10000
Ohio, NJ. o. Roberts Il Observation-Disclosures. 100000
Georgia, ..................... 100000
Falcon NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS., 10000
Victoria ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. 10000
Total NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS.. 100000