The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-11-16

take and by one which public mildly correct, by
noticing il in meetings OF this kind, and BY pressing upon
the of tho country the attention which the
public mind has given TO it, (Iear, hear hAS oeen
the practice In the naval pscuce winch
Is full of use and occasion VI flo
fa or boat service should tho Commander IN Chet or the
Admiral him self take the lead aud expose himself In an
action Of that description It is manifest that the moment
an individual commences an attack such as thal was on
the Peho forts and involves himself In it, his personal ho
nor becomes Immediately concerned Captain Tatnsll the
Chyarous American captain who witnessed tho whole OF
fhoee operations, sad in the letter to his government
sIn fifteen minutes they were beaten, and there was
not the slightest shadow or chance Of success" the
gallant and cbvarous admiral had consented to continue
his flag flying on board the Miranda had sent his second
In command to take charge OF the notila, II De nau
he would have recalled hs otla al tho time Capt, Tat.
nal II useless to eight any longer and all TUG 'oss
would have been avoided. have been drawn - ,sn
these remarks because when ngshmen hear OF uc!cas
is proper should be able to account Tor ~ anu s,W
tho from which has arisen, SO mat tney ay '
happen again. Will make no o'Is am ant, ignorant Of
the ground and Lot acquainted win tie naa.ie LII
defcnces against which the fotia was ongngca' su,
viii saw ON The past Of the subject that Of dislike to the
policy which has brought into constant war from the
date Of the giving up OF ihs charef VI ne Is' Au eA
pany down to the present Tune =, =
SPEECH EARL or DERBY.
The Earl of DErBY rose to return thanks. When the
renewed applause which greeted him as soon as he was
upon legs had in some degree subsidized the noble earl
said-Mr Chair man, my lords and gentlemen Words
would wholly fail me were to attempt tue hopeless task
of expressing In adequate terms the sentiments OF deep
graticatiop-and may venture to say IL, not wholly
usiisble pridc-wit whch survey the magnificent
semby before me, and roe to acknowledge the splendid
compliment which you have paid to me and my late col
leagues office by your attendance this day. and by the
overwhelming reception you have given to the toast pro-
posed by your worthy chairman. (chcers Next to the
consciousness In man breast OF aging endeavored
faithfully 10 discharge those duties and those obligations
which LIS station IN life imposed upon him, the highest
reward to which public ~ man an, can look ok Is the
countFymcn, such that which have the honor
of addressing that those Efforts have no, been wholly
thrown away and that lie has acquired some claim AMI
some title their past approval and their future coat
depce. tCheers) know nothing bat what hear from
the public organs of intelligence, bat am much mistaken
ii foreign relations n The present moment are upon as
satisfactory footing ana as generally aicabe, az
they teg months since CLEAR, hear.) The
present government have dlcultlos 10 contend with, in
the position OF what is called the Italian question: in which
hope and trust they will be steady in their purpose not
10 entange themselves Ia The negotiations OF any con-
gross. Cheers They have difficulties IN China; they
have diiicultes upon the coast of Africa, seriously
threatening U.s. unless decided tone be taken, and unless
this country is disposed maintain rights which
absolutely essential 10 our welfare. They are reae sed
7eith difficulties the North Pacific, uhsrs
Gtlanic brethren 4 may asethe faaar erprios APPEAR
toLe "tyno II on, Iaugher) They are threatened with
difficulties In various qua ters but they are not difficulties
which may not be by mixture OF hrmness,
of good temper hut at the time OF determination
maintain the rights and the honor of this country.
(Cbeers They have, the other hand, great advan-
tages in their avor they preside the destiaes of
nation which never at any time was so Astounding IN ma
terial resources in wealth and in prosperity as it Is at
the present moment They preside nation in which
commerce and active almost beyond
dent and at the time, as believe, free from all
undue speculation Hear. bear.
The CHAIRMAN then gave: 1.-The Earl Of Malmesbury"
upon whose general policy he passed high eulogium,
pecaly prasng his conduct in freeing countrymen
from the tyrannical chain of Naples
The toast was drunk with all Donors
SPEECH THE MALAEsBrRY.
The Earl of NAIMEsBrRY, in responding said-Mr.
Chairman, my lords and gentemenI feel very great
difficulty and very bard task express you my
Cere gratitude, and all the feelings which at
this moment for the compliment which have paid to
individual who deserves little your hands as myself
have not the natural advantage OF my noble friend
my left OF having had the great ability to the
try, during now somewhat long life, with such emil
nent distinction have not the local advantage like him.
Of being personally known to each and all Of you
come from very distant part of the country conserva
tive servant OF the public to attend this great conserva
tive demonstration. cloud cheers) II is impossible for
any Of you, living in this great emporium OF trade and
nesense Sh a s as su are by your
understand the inmense-ihe unspeakable val ne
Of cordial alliance with France. On the
first occasion when my noble friend was called to BE-
Prime Minister Of this county, found France in very
anxious position She obliged TO change, had de.
termined to change her form OF government and
change the dynasty OF her soveregns My noble friend
and acting under him. at that the only course
which was to be pursued that which is most consis-
tent with the principles and feelings ishmen-at Of
respecting the feelings and the wishes of the French
pie. (Hear. hear We at once and without hesitation
S n
steps, but hesated to do the same refused all advice
10 pursue their course and at following out those
principles which have described, acknowledged and
cordially acknowledged h us Napoleon the Emperor Of
the French. (Cheers It so happened that my for
tune in early life and even before he was exile in this
country to be intimately acquainted with that prince and
assure you that really deeply, and completely appre
ciated from the moment first knew him. his great quail
ties and abilities and there who bear
witness to my having publicly and constantly stated what
do here of those abilities and qualities when very few
Engshmen acquainted with or had opportunity,
like myself OF judging of them And 1t will be q salts.
faction to you to hear what is right, for the sake Of
lion with the prince upon political matters, long ago
honor Of any communication with his Majesty he
his 6elig that 81 Is net only ne best polscy Of
France itseH, but his earnest personal ,rsh 70
That fact which ought to he known, and fac. which
ought TO be pondered upon the OF this
Try Hear, hear But, notwithstanding the feelings Of
the Emperor Of the French, have again. since that
time which have described been under considerable APP
prehenson to the feelings Of the French nation and
med from the experience have had Of foreign AFFAIRS
10 express my opinion with respect to the feel
ngs ana oy e o pGoy ., sne @
be to maintain that friendly alliance think they do not
quite understand the policy and The nature Of this country
perfect ease maintain cordial friendship, a COM
plete alliance with France, and she = with us,
@ G1r Ds ag sp Sv 20 nd IN
every path which she may follow consistently with her
own political interest. (Hear) And hold that it is
march, to say that because upon certain points
agrec with her policy, and because at certain moments
cannot follow in the paths in which they would lead;
because in fact the policy and interests Of the two
tries upon particular subjects various and different
say it unreasonable TO turn round as the French
press has often DONE and has lately done upon u.s.
10 say, You longer faithful and cordial ay.n
(Hear, hear) Nay, ,could 60 further than that and
,oould say that is for The interest Of any permanent al
7iance that IRE should 90 hand IN hand, arm in arm
and foot by foot, in ere,y path and every step sotich
France may Jollo.o Hear, hear ! Because, if
and not be seen by the rest Of Europe, and
abe world at large, joining France in an intimate man
ner suspicion would be Immediately aroused that
cordial alliance had ceased. (Hear.) I maintain that
the policy of England is entirely and naturally different in
many points, from that Of France. They aun us-the
writers in the French press taunt us-now with having
lost former power, with being soatedthat is tho
word-from the other nations Of Europe, and having
faken up the position of second rate Power because
did not interfere In the affairs Of Italy accept the word
ssolaton" take II in its ancient and literal sense and
from It's Latin derivation Our geographical isoIdtion has
been our safely hitherto and you may dpend upon that
isolation from foreign politics aoiU ofn be our safety
hereafter. (Chcers) We may be .warke, but we are