, 1859-12-07
BY TELEGRAPH.
DEBATE on HELPERS IMPENDING CRI-
SIS CONTINUED.
Muaonsa Resolution and Trumbulifs
Amendment,

DkbA e w HILL 1AIENDlfb AHl.
SIS CONTINUED.
Mason,a Resolution and Trumbu1iss
Amendment.
WAsH1xcroS, Dec. 5.-HotsE, continued
Kilgore, OF Ind, explained, and was understood
to say that he condemned as strongly rs the gen.
t1euan from Missouri possibly could, the arowal
ofsueh sentiments. lie bad never Seen the rec
ommendation to scatter Helpers "Crisis." Hia
name, however, appeared to i proposition to
matters taken from Helpers book, together
with The remarks made By gentlemen on
Slavery.
Mr. Cla.k-"1 an glad the gentleman feels
the wrath t. come" Laughter.
.,;!: NJ k!gors- am ready to take the fs'pon-
NJ. EaEnsvorth-"we can sct understand;
hsfs." 80 '' 49, ''' 'N
III. Clark" hare the book
Mr.. Fnrnsworth-''I don't believe the gentle
man read it. recommend the literature. I
hare no doubt the book is good one"
NF- CLARK, rcsumlns, felt it TO be his duty 10
and men placed ia position, holding such senti-
ments, the people ought to know 10 what hu-
initiating position it ha. come Tie chair they
were new about 10 I'll had bean occupied BY Clay,
Barbour, Cobb aud Winthrop, gentlemen who
bad drawn light from the sources Of the Consti-
tutiou-who mad elsvated self.sespect, aud who
would not advise treason, murder sud dissolu-
ton." He said he had that circular ia refer
ence to the circulation Of the pamphlet before
him.
Ar. Clark g. Cochrance. .interrnptiug, utterly
condemned such sentiments a3 those v hich the
gentleman from Missouri had repeated.
Nr. Palmer said-"Let us hare free discus
siob- Our friends On the ether side have thrust
the negro before the House. We may rs we'll
quickly as possible"
Mr. CLARK replied that the negro would never
have been thrust upon the House but for the
action of the gentleman's party, aud for the nd
vice gentlemen had giyen. If gentlemen made
themselves the equals Of the negro, tho effect
would be to drive another class Of the House on.
Nr. Kellogg remarked that The gentleman
from Missouri had made statement that Re-
publican members Ind directly or indirectly
sanctioned certain things in Helpers book
His name nppears in some Of the papers as hav-
ing recommended it.
.Mr. C!ark-"So doubt you signed it,
{LAughter.l
whether 81 yaed the list OF not: because ,he
authority Of The New York Mra!dis not good"
Mr- CLARK" Nor any other good paper"
Ar. Kellogg The sentiments are not enter
taiued By the Republicans. am willing that
the gentleman should assume or disarov. Ill
have signed the paper wrongfulIy, would
arrow it: lwant the gentleman to state what is
in the Compendium
There vas much noise and confusion through
out The House, and the speakers we're but in-
perfectly heard.
3lr. Clark said he Was prepared to show what
was in the book If gentlemen were prepared to
be placed on the anxious seat.
Without further proceedings the House ad-
iourned.
WASHINGTON. Deceubeber Gth.- Horss.
3fr. Clark briefly reviewed the prominent re-.
commendations iu Helpers book, strongly con-
demning these who signed the circular, and ia-
sisting lhut il they were carried out the Union
could not exist. "Don't put brother agaiust
brother. father against son. Don't destroy the
conservative sentiment of the country"
Mr. Gilmer offered substitute for Clark's
resolution looking to the Union Of national aud
conservative men on tue basis of the declara-
tions heretofore made bF Wings and Democrats
against further agitation Of the slavery question,
Ar Curtis moved the previous question.
Mr.. Wa.hburue OF ILL.,, uored to lay the
whole subject on the table.
feSatired br tie rDtc.
The Housc adjourned without ballot, or any
action on Clars's rtso!ntion..
SEsA7E.--Mr: Trumbull, o: Illinois, said let
this investigation be impartial and thorough,
TasfsGect on the country would bemost salutarT,
and had siniler Investigation been instituted
when similar transaction occurred in 1856 it
would hare been better. The Arsenal at Lib
public property taken theEefrou1. lie briefly
recapitulsIed the facts Of that occurrence, as
stated By Captain Leonsrd, mchasge there.
That, however, WIS for the purpose Of forcing
slavery into Kansas, while ut Harper's Ferry
the effort was to abolish slavery. He then offer
cd IN amendment to the resolution extending
the inquiry to the former case.
Mr. Mason replied that he wonld not stand in
the way Of the inquiry suggested. but the very
document read contained all the facts officially
set forth. If the Senator wanted 10 prevent
the recurrence Of such transactions he would
not stand in the way Ct applying the proper
Legislation. but now when four years had eiaps-
ed and neither that Senator. nor those who net
H1f1, bin, bare asked an Investigation. IT ls Il
little strange to be 10 anxious to couple these
transactions.
air. Mason continued. The committee could
not examine both ct once, and therefore time
and money would be lost adopting the amend
meat. He wanted to know whence resources
were derived for the uarpcr's Ferry invasion
who supplied the money, munitions, and coun'
sci. Congress could not act on the sub,
jet without official iniormation, md il it should
turn out that Congress had no power to prevent
sactioos, it is the duty not Of the South
ern States a!onc, but OF ali States, to take pro
per measures for their protection. lie alluded
10 the remark Of 3lr. Tru1,bull, respecting ths
shrieks from Kansas not being heard ia Viz
ginia. By saying that no shrieks would be heard
from E;ryiu.a, happen what may IN their PoEisi
cal relations with others. He did not kcon
what & man's political education could be Il
lead him to use xrch expressions in reference
to recent events.
3fr. Trumbuit answered that nothing the Sen
ator might say could get him to speak disres
recttully Of Virginia or any other State Of ths
regard 10 the people Of Kansas, but not witt
the view Of casting r:dicute on every portion
of the country.
Mr. Mason's impression was that the tern
came from the political associates Of Trumbull
at FIRST it was stlrieks for freedom.
Supreme Court Of the United States, and de
fined h.sposition generally on the slarery ques
ton.
Nr. Hunter expressed surprise at the maunc,
this resolution had been received II was pro
per in Itself and made emtnent1J necessary b,
the circumstances which have recently occurred
lie was not 50 much startled by the furaJ 0
thy openly expressed By the Nosth for hin, au'
At the apparent indifference Of the great mas
| Of the North at such manifestations Of sympa
thy. The Senator from Illinois proposes +
turn the matter into party issue. Does b
| suppose the South regard peace and safety Q
the community as party measure: They ~
10th to believe such things can be treated viii
| indifference by those bound to them By ties 0
common government, but # such is the case, j
! is time thev were male aware Of it upon sucl
occasions as this, which has no parallel in th
history of the country. The 1esity disp1sye'
| by the Senator from New Hampshire, ia like th
| laugh OF an inebriate at u bed Of death. Ii
South can take care Of themselves If no Eemed,
can BE- found in the general government. le
sis this Union to be used only to stay the arm
Of States for self defence, and give no protection
against such insuzrections: Nthere be In trot
| scch au alienation OF feeling, and this simpf
resolution cannot pass without beng kmo;here
By party issues, le. US know it at once"
Nr. Davis said "oue gratifying fact was th
dis,incsness with which senators disa.owed a
connection with or sympathy tos the mad fora
| of Brown"
Mr. Green, Of Wis, remarked that the puz
pose for which a1ms we're taken at Liberty
was not to force slavery into Kansas, not I
subyeEt the government or LAWS Of the Unite
| Ssates, but to resist Unlawful nets Of the En-
grant Aid Society, which had prevented 1he e,
ecution Of the lars Of the Territory. Althou5
IN unlawful zct, 1t w1s for good purposes an
in order to support law and order. The tsut
ought 10 80 fotth in connection with this ma
TER, and not let it be supposed that It waS =
atroe;ous ac., like that at Harpers Ferry. TIL
afFair demands the interposition Of the Feder7
Government, while scenes in knnxas, whethe
right or wrong, hare been passed by; tho:
acts are recorded for poste1ity to Judge, and |.
tael. remain undisturbed.
Nr. Cntteuden, Of ky., thought the amen,
ment could do no harm, and would only occup
few days more time. He hoped it would
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