Worcester daily spy. [volume] (Worcester [Mass.]) 1850-1888, 1859-12-14

CudHdIl, however, uOeS not STAND on tlle Clncln-
natl platform and the Kansas Nebraska act /;
for in his letter accepting the nomination to the
presidency, he declared that the people of a
territory, like those of state should decide
whether or not slavery should exist while it is
i'll territorial condition. Both wings of the
| Democracy of New Jersey in their resolutions
had declared that the people of the territory
have the right TO regulate slavery in their own
way, independent of congressional interfer-
ence. No candidate of the Charleston Con-
| vention could receive the vote of New jersey,
unless he agrees to the principles declared
| No Democrat could be elected who stands on
any other platform of the Kansas Nebraska
BILL unless the south stand ON this platform.
| They had been told, that if Black Republican
was elected President, it would be cause
for a dissolution of the Union. This was
a reasonable sentiment. The people have d
sight to vote for whom they choose. If any
attempt was made to dissolve the Union be-
cause of the election of Mr.. Seward or any
other man, he trusted there would be patriot
ism enough on the part of the people to put
it down. They should wait and see what the
conduct of such President was then there
would be time to consider the subject. But
let the democracy take Mr.. Douglas, who
stands on the Cincinnati platform, and the Ne
braska act as interpreted by Mr. Buchanan in
his letter Of acceptance, and no Republican
could be elected to the presidency.
In response to question from Mr.. Burnett
he said if the Charleston Convention nomi.
mates man who does not entertain the views
he had expressed, he would not vote for him.
Mr.. Burnett said, could he understand Mr.
Adrain to say that he and his constituents
would not vote for any candidate who does not
hold that the people of territory may, by I'M
friendly legislation, exclude slavery there
| from.
Mr.. Adrain said there was no doubt about
| it.
| Mr.. Gartrell was understood to ask whistler
that was Mr. Douglas position.
Mr.. Adrain replied that Mr.. Douglas was
able to speak for himself, as he did in Harper's
Magazine, and in his reply to Attorney Gener-
al Black. In reply to a question why he did
not vote, as the Illinois delegate did, for Mr..
| Bocock he said perhaps his position was not
understood. He had been read out OF the
party by the administration. Mr. Bocock is
the candidate of the administration. He was
| not to be read into it to obey the dictaton of
Mr.. Buchanan and those in power. He acted
for himself
Mr.. Clark, of New York had reason to be-
lieve that it would be acceptable to Judge
Douglas if the latters friends such as himself
and Mr.. Adrian, had gone into the Democratic
caucus. (Applause.)
Mr.. Adrian said if he had gone into the
democratic caucus the result would have been
the same. Mr.. Bocock, who does not hold the
same views that he does, would not represent
him, and that fact would have gone to his con-
stituents. As his friend Mr., Clark knew that
it would have been acceptable to Mr.. Douglas
if he and others had gone into it, why did not
Mr.. Clark go into it himself! (Applause.)
Mr.. Clark replied that at a proper time, he
would give his reasons, which would be ac
ceptable.
Mr.. Adrian said he could not have gone into
the caucus without debasing himself
Mr.. Burnett wished to know whether Mr..
Adrian proposed going into the Charleston
Convention.
Mr.. Adrian said he should not be seen there.
Mr.. Burnett asked whether he would sup
| port the nominee.
Mr.. Adrian replied, he would if the candi-
date stood on the principles he had declared.
In concluding his remarks, he expressed the
belief that no constituent Of his approves
the conduct of John Brown; and as 10
every northern man, who goes into a
southern state, for the purpose of interfering
with its rights, he hoped they would serve him
like the Browns. Applause. But the peo-
| pie OF the southern states must mind their bus
mess and keep their hands off the rights and
institutions of the other states AS to the
| Union, in the language OF Jackson, at must
and shall be preserved" Applause
Mr.. McRae of Mississippi asked Mr.. Adrian
whether, if the Charleston Convention shall
adopt the Cincinnati platform, he would sup,
port the nominee?
Mr.. Adrian said he would not, nor would
his constituents, unless the platform was in
terpreted to declare that the people of a terri
tory like those of state have the right to
decide the question of slavery for themselves.
Mr.. Hickman said the north, in constituting
the Cincinnati platform, hold that the people
in territorial condition have the right to ex-
clude slavery. The south construe it differ
emily that the people can exclude it only
when they come to form state constitution
This was the issue between the north and
south. He, as democrat, wonld vote for no
man, not even for Mr. Douglas, without an
explanation
Mr.. McRae inquired with what party he
would cooperate in the election OF Speaker?
Mr.. Hickman replied-wth any political
party against the political sentiment he consid-
cred most obnoxious.
Mr.. McRae remarked that the inference was
that Mr.. IL. would cooperate with the Repub-
lcans. He then Analysed the votes to show
that the responsibility of electing a Speaker
rested upon the southern opposition and the
| anti-Lecompton men.
Mr.. Etheredge suggested whether if thirty
| HVe or lOrly votes cotlu De p0lleu LOT Mr.. Gll-
mer, the democrats would join their forces in
his support Southern members could have
no objection to Mr.. Gilmer who owned a hun
dred slaves.
Mr.. McRae asked whether it was fair that
eighty or ninety men should go over to twenty
three. Had it been shown that Gilmer could
get thirty votes, why did not the gentleman
unite his twenty three with the Democrats,
putting the responsibility of the result upon
the anti-Lecompton members
Mr.. Etheridge, of Tennessee, said that could
not test the fact. When it could be shown
that Mr.. Bocock can receive SO votes, it would
then be no difficult task to show how he could
| be elected. Some of the democrats, however,
refused to vote for Bocock, and ignored his
democracy.
Mr.. Babson said he could not vote for Re
publican, nor could he vote for a man who en-
dorsed the position of Mr.. Douglas as the lat
ter's doctrines are wholly subversive of south
ern rights He wished to ask whether Bocock
endorsed the views of Messrs. Douglas, Stew
art, and Pugh that territory can exclude
slavery therefrom by unfriendly legislation.
He would never support man holding such
opinions.
Mr.. McRae replied that Mr.. Bocock had not
possession of the floor, and could not get it to
answer. (Laughter.)
Mr.. Clark of New York, said he would new
er vote for any person for Speaker who was
not hostile to legislation by Congress for the
! protection Of slave property in the territories
ubn .ns,,, 81,