New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-10-17

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Florida . 3--6i
The same States lad they voted for President
this year, would have presented the following
rather different result:
Opposition. Dtnecfdfie. -
Pennsylvanla Georgia.. --...lO
Ohio. Mississippi. $780,
loWa. 4 Florida 3-ZO
Minnesota As Indiana, doubtful.
Here is change enough in these few States to
have beaten Buchanan in 1856
What, then, do they indicate for 1860
Then. Y Times and The Leader-the weekday
and Sunday organs respectively Of Douglasism-
argue that they prove tae faulty Of running any
body else than Stephen A Douglas as the Demo
cratic candidate for next President Nominate
Douglas at Charleston, they urge, and these dlsm
tiers may be reversed and the Union carried in go
as it was in sc But we do not perceive any facts
that Justify this bold presumption. There is a.
least a chance that the Fire-eaters may bolt IN
case Douglas is nominated, which would certainly
PIT South Carolina and Mississippi, and probably
ott er Southern Democratic States, against him
Now Democratic party without the South is, at
this day. the play of Hamlet with the part Of Ham,
let omitted II is b,aten at the start.
But what evidence have we that Mr.. Douglas
would carry Pennsylvania
That be could carry several thousand Democrats
who because Of the LecomptOn business, have re-
Gently stood aloof from or worked against their
party, is probable But would not at leas! as
many, who attribute their parV's recent humilia
tons TO what they are pleased to consider the
treachery of Douglas and Forney, be repealed by
the exaltation of the they detest to the chief
seats in the party synagoguel It certainly seems
so. But, even if they were not, how could their
success be hoped for In 1856, James Buchanan,
8 Pennsyl ssnia candidate, and the first one for
President she ever had, received hardly 1000 more
votes than were cast for Fremont and Fillmore,
though his illegal vote was not less than Ten Thou
sand. Is it to be presumed that an Illinois csnd-
date who has, to speak mildly, trodden on the corns
Of many Pennsylvania Democrats could now
carry the State against united Opposition The
facts do not justify such presumption.
As to Ohio, Iowa and Mlnueso.s, the case is even
stronger In all these States, tie Democracy either
was or seemed TO be standing on Dir Douglass
Squatter Sovereignty platform. ONO Was enerseE
ically canyassed In behalf Of the Democraae o'a@
ticket by Mr. Douglas himself HIS hiend Fusn
vas TO cave or o.e bis seat in the Senate ACCORDING
to the result Of this Election. Douglas meh Ole
numerous AID powerful in Ohio, and tney ''ed WIN
Buchanan men in desperate exevtions ior Tue Dei
&C ATTIC ticket 1t is not easy to see DO" one VI 'Ne
Democratic factions could do more for tha! NeAe'
than both did.
In Iowa, the Democratic party claims 70 nave
always stood on the squatter Sovereignty PLATFORM
sni fought their late battle on that ground. They
stood on il when badly beaten in SO, and have been
beaten on it annually ever since. They would
doubtless mske strong fight for Douglas but
there are no data on which TO base presumption
that they would do better in 60 than they did
in ';6
In Minnesota, the Democracy also claim to stand
on the Squatter Sovereignty platform and make that
claim with great plausibihty. Gen. Shields, their
retiring United States Senstor, was former col
league OF Douglas, and stood By him through the
Lecompton 6ght Nobody doubted his devotion TO
the principles ard fortunes Of the Little Giant Yet
the State is swept from under him. and bis seat will
he filed b! a Republican, while two Republicans
replace the late Democratic deleps in the
House. Their election renders Republican tn
umph nearly certain, IL case the election Of our
next President should go into the House.
Where, then, is the proof that Douglass nOmins'
ton at Charleston would save his party from the
overwhelming defeat that seems to await them
The journal Of Commerce and Herald have
another way Of accounting for their partys defeat
in Pennsylvania 1t WAS the Tariff question, they
ssy, that gave that S..,e to the Opposition. Now
there is unquestionsbly a shred of truth in this
Berks, York, Luzerne, Juni,ta, &c, have done
better than they would have done h,d their people