Delaware gazette. [volume] (Delaware, Ohio) 1855-1886, 1859-10-28

spoke on the Fugitive slate Law, and nit owl
rescue, of course; so far as | had any refer
ence, at all, j was dis posed to justify the Ober
lin people for rescusiDg a slave, because have
myself forcibly taken slases from bondage;
was concerned in taking eleven slaves fr6th
Missouri to Canada last winter l think
spoke in Cleveland before the Convex
ton; do not know that had any conversa-
tion with any of the Oberlin tescusers was
sick part of the time was in Obeflin had
the ague; was part of the time in Ashtabua
county.
Mr.. T.-Did rcu see anything of Joshua p:
Giddings there?
B.-T did meet him.
Mr. V.-Did you consult him?
BIZ | did, would not tell you. of course
anythittg that would implcate Mr.. Giddings,
but I certainly saw him and had conversa-
tlon with him.
Mr.. V.-About that rescue case?
B.-Yes, I heard him express his opinion
on it very freely and frankly.
Mr.. V.--Justifying Il?
B.-Yes sir; 70 not compromise him in
saying that.
A Bystandef-Did you go out to Kansas
under the auspices Of the Emigrant Aid Soci-
ty?
B.-No sir; went under the auspices of
old John Brown, and nobody else.
Mr.. y--Will yon Hnsrer this Did you
talk with Giddings about your expedition here
BIO sir, won't answer that, because
denial of it I would not make, and to make an
affirmation of it l would be great Ounce.
i
with parties at the North on the subject of
This movement?
B.-I have had correspondence.
Bystander-Do you consider Ii religious
movement?
Bit is in my opinion the greatest service
Il man can render to God.
Bystander-Do you consider Yourself an in
strument in the hands of Providence?
B.-1 do.
Bystander-Upon what principle do you
justify your acts?
BY the golden rule. 1 pity the poor in
bondage. That is why am here. 1t is not
to CRAFTY any personal animosity, Or feeling cf
revenge or of vindictife spirit. It is my
sympathy with the opposed and wronged that
are as good as you, and as precious i'll the sight
of God.
Bystaf.ier- Certainly, but why take the
slaves aguisfst their will:
Warmly never did.
Bysander-You did i'll one instance, at
least
Stephens, to the inquirer, interrupted Brcssn
You are right, sir ID orc t:s~e. "A groaH
from the wounded msn.) In one case knoh
the negro wished to go bHeii
To Brown-Captain, the gentleman is right.
Bystander, to Stephens-W here did you
come from?
ST live in AahtSJula countyF
Mr.. N.-How RECENTLY did 9et: leave Ashta-
bulaT county? s=-..-
S.-Some months ago. l never resided
there any length of time. have often been
through there.
Mr., y.-How far did so4 Its tfom JetSrtt+-
son?
B., to Stephens-Be very cautious, Stcph-
ems, about answering that; it might commit
some friend. l wsstld rot Hststvef it at all:
S., who had been groshing considerably, al
though the exertion necessary to coh3etsstiUf
seriously affected him. seettea toftsii!!t to abide
by my Captains" 3" decision. He turned over
and was silent.
Mr.. V, to Prown-Wh no were your stltisefs
in this moteHteiit
B-I hsve nutt4ef5as s. Ii fait hiseis through
out the et.tirc North
Mr.. YIN Northern Ohio7
B-No 10 more than anywhere else in all
the Free States.
Mr.. V.---But you are not personally acquain-
ted in Southern Ohio?
B.--Not very much.
Mr.. V.--Were you at the convention last
June.
B.-I was want you to understand, gen
tle1nen, that respect the rights of the poorest
and weakest Of tEe colored people oppressed by
the sla~e system, just as maeh as l do tkuse of
the most wealthy End powerful that is the
idea tl1es Ess IiFoved me, and that alone. We
expected no reward. We expected the salts
faction of endeavoring to do for them in dis |
tress-the greatly oppressed-as we would be |
done by. The cry II distress, and of the dis
tressed, is my reason, and the only one that
impelled me.
Bystander-Why did you do it secretly?
B.-Because l thought it necessary to sue
cess. For no other reason.
Bystander-Yo think that honorable, do |
you? Have you read Gerrit Smiths last let
ter?
B.-What letter do you mesn
Bystander- Rev York Herald of yes
terday in speaking of this affair mentions a let
ter in which he says, that it is folly to attempt
to strike the shackles off the slaves by the force
of moral suasion or legal agitation, and pre-
diets that the next movement made in the ii;
reetion of negro emancipation will be an in
in the South
B-I have not seen New York Herald for
some days past, but presume from your re-
marks about the gist of the letter should con-
cur with it. / agree with Mr.. Smith that
moral suasion is hopeless. / don't think the
people of the Slave States will ever consider
the subject of Slavery in its trus light, until
some other argument is resorted to than moral
sfasion.
Mr.. V.-Did you expect a general rising of
the slaves, in case of your success?
B.-No sir, nor did wish il; expected to
gather strength from time to time, then could
set them free.
Mr.. V.-Did you expect to hold possession
here until then?
B-WeIl! Probably had quite different
idea do not know that ought to reveal
my plans; am here prisoner, and wounded
because foolishIy allowed myself to be so.
Y ou overrate your strength when you suppose
that could have been taken, if l had not al
lowed it. was too tardy, after commencing
the open attack, in delaying my movements
through Monday night, and, up to the time l
was attacked by the Government troops. 1t
vas an occasioned by my desire to spare the
feelings of my prisoners, and their families, and
Of the community.
Mr.. V.-Did rbu not shoot negro on the