The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-08-12


had no doubt the full right, v,esins toe ssgr,tces
that be obgef 10 MAKE both OF o,en sni Of trea
rpIe, 70 otte povnSe ,or we ssNs 81 pesvs i S0s
ceesop of that o. does not create such great dis
turbsnce o, the European sysstm that he - Se's OF
Eu, ope have Any rsh. TO ins'fe'e IN regard 20 that
subject But Sir, the other portion OF the treaty Is OF
yery tiar.n, nature propoies reoganis 'nsn fJr
The J.ts . S,.sn eut.ce Of naoon VITA rsspsa to
Epaaed entering INTO sny conferences upon taat qusson.
That potce, fnd, is cooched N terms wneo mus. say
10 tos country My nooe friends notice OF monoa u 10
ms etct-hA this uouse should decia iis opnoa tast
il would be consistent nesaer With the hoaor nor tne
oen of this country TO take part IN sry conference Tor
The purpo,e of settling the details OF peace, ne peum
parrs Of which have been arranged Se, ssea the sa,e
pIouosi,on 20 which, | think, evesy body you'd agree
IF We we're asked to discuss the details Of tue treaty OF
peace which has been entered INTO oy The Soveresos
~ E,spce aud Austria, there DO doubt t1at
IL would no. become the dignity or suit the
interests of Eogand 10 comply w,'h such a re
10 the future, when the fate OF Italy Tor ysars
ia to be upon woat may DO done 10 the present
war whether bJ this soveregns OF FTsnce and Austria
ooe or by all the great Po~e,s o. Euro assembIed
Congress matter assumes very different co pexon
Lore Clarendon, in 1896 wasa attending the Conisfence
France and Great Britain the side. and Russia
the Other tho9AH his duy in conjunction 10Th ths Pr,
at Of me rpy ssntouss of The Europsun Ps,yrs
hers as, mbtd hger he did no doubt on the Grottd
hat the Sat Of ay ods Of hs unos. impairment Europe
He stated that the Roman Sta es 10 continue
pied as they then were, BY foreign troops, he could
o.eses nothing but revolution as the result aud he
adc ed thas bet0oved the great Po Of Europe
TO copscer in what manner they could prevent
tba. revolution. l have heard that state.
meat Ga the part OF the gosernmeni Of her Majesty
impugned in this Houee, nor mas II ever been de0id
THAT the stale OF Italy fair matter for consideration
by Feh, 8s!.s1 veil the obsr Pc vers that the
peace Europe nigh. pend upon the favorable solution
Of the questions aseted and rh-t 10 the peace OF
Europe Great Britain could not be Indifferent (aesr
hear) shall nos sale what 10 the rrooo7itoo tas.
IN m pf s.fs ha
Emperor OF tne French II is not az my noble freud
supposes that the government OF Great Britain should
into Congress Conference for the our psss Of
considering the details o, the treaty o. ydafrsncs Is
OF very different nature add cauooi well give the
Rouse conception OF The pature of that proposition
by reading an extract from despatch addressed ny
Count Halewski to Count PersigGy, and OF which the
latter left Slth me copy canao produces the pren-
ueret Of peace which Left with me- because taey
are signed only by the Enperor OF Austria; they are
altogether on informal document and A require 10 be de-
retcpd in tecty If peace to BE- hereafter Sgnsd me
articee sgfeed upon at Vlsfranca were, oelieye the
iboee which have been 10 the IS papers
within the last day tao, AID therefore, It the less
necessary that should produce them nut there any
WISH hs. should lay tee table the whole despatch
o. Count waIe1sxi shall have no obi scon 10 do so
Count Waleweki states -:
French and Austrian Plsnpatentisry about to NEE
immediately st Zurich to convert into treaty Of the
bais decided upcn between tnsr Msees You are aware
10 zee The ss Poss-s for the dsasSe
able to meet ehe. m cong e Or Ia Conference 70 co
IIay, and which connected with general in.eres.s
AS the pssssge which have just quotsd sho clearly
what the question is upon which proposed that there
should be Confee may be permitted to read IL
| again. The object OF ths Conference is--
TO confer on all the questions raised BY the actual
teres.s. ,
You will observe that the terms are general that they
have not reference to the details Of any treaty OF
much less of the treaty OF Vlairanca but MNH IS pro
posed that the great Pops shoaM confer upon all questions
| Of general interest. Count Waewski proceeds
need not add ha. the nature of the relations
Se se my viii
Is @ Is,
sovereigns have mutually agreed TO luther.
shall state what course the government of her
Mss,y have thought fit to We nave not thought
necessary at the present time gre dng precise 10
the despatch Of Count Wale,gski We thanked the
Emperor Of the French for hs nmunicaon but it has
been sgnfed in any written document, but through
the Ambassador OF her Maesty at Paris that there
two conoitions in addition TO or two others 10 when
may refer, which must be Complied with before eau
consent to take part in any Conference. One that
should the Treaty Of Zurich Which is about to be sso
ated am tod that it is cnli matter Of doubt whether
that treaty Of Zurich is merely to confirm under the
Signature OF Penpoentsres, the articles OF the treaty
whether it is to be extended treaty dealing with the
Affairs OF Italy generally. Zoe eaty OF Zurich may
be less than the prerninaries Of vlafranca, may
simply confirm the peace already concluded bet
two Enpeiors and the King Of Sardinia, no. entering
the affairs Of I,ay beyond OF course the cesson OF terri
tory which has been nsie by the En- of Austria bat
upon the terms Of treaty when has bee up
and communicated officially to the govern meat OF her
Maiesiy will depend ~hethe. we Oh Al, agree TO the invita-
ton which has been addressed to TO join ia q Come
or the European Powers (Iear, hear) There is
hke~se another consideration. holi that il waui De
Italy unless the Emperor OF Austria party to it.. 1t
IS understood that me emperor Of Aua'1a al ne lime the
signing Of the treaty of F0f area, objected to any C,n
gesS Conference Whaever, and m lntain that Mould
BE- absurd 10 atent to seze the affairs Of Adiy Wtou. the
se as
Congress Conference from which the representatives
Austria and Prussia would be absent (Hear Ag4n, s
important that should know beforehand what the
points which any Congress or Conference would have
TO consider The treaty OF vlafranca has left the state
Of Italy quite unsettled the treaty Of Zurich may 90
further and may therefore, be m ,,e. OF doubt VINE.
Their advice to be given at Conference would be of
use In order to compose the affairs Of Italy There must
be some sort OF agreement community Of views among
the Powers attending that Congress- at all events, Il
would be just well not to Into ii 70 enter ~itu
the prospect OF breaking of upon diver of opinion
at very early stage (Htar hear) The treaty Of Vii
lairanca DEAN with three matters Of very great import
ance but must say that for treaty intended TO settle
the affairs Of Italy bears marks of the haste which a..
tended lis conception and it's execution It s impossible
to say that contains any settlement Of those affairs
which 1856 caused anxiety to the Of
Majssy in Paris; which in 1867 and 1858 matters oil
deberaton among the Powers Of Eurepe and which
the Of that short but very bloody us
been brought to ter Mutation. The fest question which
raseeaTd raises, hliepe in consequence Of the strong
opinion Of the EnPror q n; French I" favor The pro
treaty not say that Confederation formed or
thai Confederation shall be formed only states that
wv Will FAVOR anu tur-
Their the creation of Confederation With respect then
to that article, although believe that the conception 10
tsel' wae one, although it stands upon this strong
foundation, that, whereas Italy has been the prey
ceuturies OF the armies of cootendng foreign Powers
abe could have organization Of her own If her
States could be connected together by bond of uuion
and that bond federal one capable OF aordng proteo
ton of the defensive character which has always been
assigned to group Of federated States she might then
strong enough to withstand aggression and there would
be necessity for the foreign Pc wers yet
doubt very much whether the time ia when such
Confederation could be usefuy carried into effect.
We must consider Of what members 1t
cordipg TO the plan conceived yafranca 1t would
sst oftbe Pope as s President rhe Emperor of Austria
as one Of s members two Arch1ukes the King Of Naples
and the King Of Sardinia Nou, Sir canno, that
Conf liberation so formed Uould be for the benefit Of Italy
(aear) is in the nature of Confederation OF this knd
that should meet to consider Of general subjects Sar-
DINA, as we all know, and as We have observed With
tsacton has for years enjoyed free constitution,
and those privileges which belong TO free conttutoa
but how be expected that the Pope as the chief
Of that body-that the Emperor Of Austria, one
OF its members-thas the Archdukes, nearly related
to the Emperor, and following of course, his in.
inn