New-York daily tribune., 1859-12-26

too, Tor gLe term bbFtfntr VI 'HkiLio- ~ ID SA''
Fouke Of Illinois who IL speaking, aud who, hiviog
been chosen rs an antl-LeccDpton or DougA'
Democrat, il tryiIg to commend himself and his
master 10 the slave-driv.rs by rolling himself In
sIl conceivable nsstiness:
PorxS-1he Rspu6osn party Of Illinois has ben sbsOrbed
by ,he Abeiicr paTy and esnSG' s',ps on. . ,S
ths parry had sympathy sh foTeisaei b have
dslud,d and they h-se done ~sb te Iey
wi 60 uIibsr ignore them altogether ia t,r g9lies
seton lie th.n IsssIsd 70 eonyerson pc @ sta G, 70
p.Tt. In 7hs COHg,ess'oAaI GL0be.
he could r.coeci H. Tbe substance Of was that ~hu. be
ubi Of vrEnia he wss siui,s in The Ceuhe
Cismlr q day wb.n eie'ed and Announced hi
Mr. stwsd Of Se~York conversation eu,aed IL 'ss
allow. Al 10 vote in New YoIk nesroes well whites TO
that be Smith replied that they had no objection 70 ne
ry pariet from virginia MI seward said h., he had
objection tbai-hst would receive them ~s Pes,are
sots gss, deal Of money hsd to Be esed election s
to .coIe .hsi sId ns me ,os ,ss ey had no aeh ouS win
the coored people In reply 70 this, he snh had then told
linn tst be oa very happy receive Equal number Of
honest hearted and Irhmen for al the nesf0rs 'hs
",Is tn tar1f 70 Sa Obliged to the rsu,lem,n
Br FAKNsvoETH-Does the gentleman recoLeet Nfo were
~ suIrp-Yes Sir, Nr Lavson Clerk to the cOunciL
Mr Foo. toi aeTward thsi he had laugh with Mr. se"
Mr. FaESswonru inquired whether Mr Smith had laugh
with the seisier lsswsrdl about H. ,aos
ons and OF course there was no laughter.
Mr FORKS esung ID nc hep2bfan psy wee wee pO & y G
done win the foreign popu alton
Now, there are msDy thousands who DeheyeGov
Seward to be a great demagOeue, intflguer, trck-
ster and all sorts Of bad fellow; yet there s not
in the wide world one man who really believes him
A poiptblank natural fool And yet no one who
does no, believe bin fool ali oTer can possibly
imagine that he introduced himself to one well
known az a bitter, interruptions adversary aud
tsiked to him in the way above represented by
Fouke aud Smith. Whoever pretends that Gov.
Seward ever talked as above quoted with stranger
like Extra Billy Smith ought to try to have him
sent to an IDIOT asylum forthwith.
Coy. Seward is known to be out of the country;
but we have conyer,ed with him about the talk
with Smith referred to, and these are its salient
features:
/. 1t occurred, if we are not grossly mistaken,
in the Library Of the State House at Richmond,
while Gov. Seward was in that city as counsel in
potent-sut. Gov. s. was there looking for book
which be wanted as an authority.
9. 1t was commenced by Smith-at all events,
the subject Of Slavery and its belongings was intro
duced by him. Smith held as bugbear to Gov. 5.
the notion that the slaves, if emancpated must be
expelled from the present Slave States and would
come North, which Gov. S., not deeming it worthy
Of seriOus refutation, parred with Jadinagc, very
nearly as follows:
Sm,tk-Ifwe are driven to emancipate our negroes,
we shsn exile them from our States, and what will
YOU 90 with them at the North ?
vyitI set them AZ work educate them
and make good Wings of them.
Sm,M-But " hat shall Te do for laborers to take
their places
StuGrd-Why, take the Irish that we shall have in
excess set them at work on your farms and let them
swell your Democratic majorities so We shall each
profit by the exchange.
We do not say that these are the precise words
used; but the above faithfully reproduces the
spirit the purport. the drift Of the conversation.
Gov. S. had no more idea that his bantering per-
si6age would be taken in earnest than that Smith
was gentleman who might be taken into his polt
zeal confidence and not expected to betray private
conversation TO subserve q partizan end. And
there is not man Of any party who, after hearing
both sides fairly stated will not knOn that the rep
resentation we have made is the substantial truth.
THE TRIBUNE has for years been called
"Seward organ " Seward journal, &c, with no
other foundation than the fact that he aud we are
pretty radically Auti-Slavery. We have never
looked TO him for counsel nor sought to push his
political fortunes. While we should like right well
to elect President of his stamp, We have never
favored bis nomination for that post, because we
have never been able to figure up, with any conf.
dence, the votes wberewith he could be elected.
Ne select and nominate candidates to secure the
nscendancy Of our principles, and have never been
able to see how We eynced friendship for favorite
Statesman by exposing him to q morally certain de-
feat. As yet according to cool calculation, it has
not been within the power of Gov. Stewards friends
to make him President; wherefore we have resisted
his nomination. But of late his enemies have de-
voted themselves to the work, and they may be able
to effect it. As they are all manifesty anxious
that be shall be the next Republican candidate,
they very likely to exhibit enough their plan
tauon manners" on his return to the country aud
the Senate, to arouse spirit on the part OF the
Republicans which viii render his election practica-
bic. Whenever We shall feel confident that such is
the fact, we shall ask TO be counted in.