New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-12-09
XXXVI1u CONGRESS.
FIRST SESSION.

Several other notices were given, ineading one for
the construction OF Railroad in Pennsylvania avenue
Washington.
Mr.. AasOn's resolution came up, whom
hr. TRUMBULL resumed his remarks, showing
q importance OF inquiry relative 10 the esckin2
Of the sIeeIa at Liberty, Missouri. the seizure OF
sn aEfeLal recently 10 regarded as matter OF greh
ut o1ace vet the President, IN his Message, never
alluded to the seizure of the arsena in Missouri.
resolution adopted in rch, 1856, calling on the
President for all the Information in the Departments
relative to the affairs OF kanSas, yet the report oi
CAPT. Leonard has lever been sent to the Senate lilo
IlOceeded IL reply 10 inquiry by Mr. iulee, 10 iaY
down tie principles Of the Republican party relding
their platform, and defending the doctrines therein
contained.
Mr. SALISBURY inquired if the Consultation gave
10 x er to establish Slavery there
Mr. TRUMBULL replied it was Constitution OF
Fl. edo and not Slavery. The word slave dons occur
10 Il.
Mr. YULEE stated that it appeared then that the
whole Oiiect Of the Republican party was To exclude
Slavery from the Territories. lie desired To know
Mbetler the exclusion did not apply to the District OF
Columbia, and all the forts and afseuals which were
under the jurisdiction Of tho Federal Governments
How war it ia tho new States of the Union For
logical ,eqnence bis argument would be that slaves are
now illegally held in Louisiana and Missouri and every
OIL er lev State. lie wanted light on thee matter,
Tor il vss serious question. The doctrines of the
Rel ubcan party plant the seeds OF revOlution-that
a platform which is impossible for the country TO
sand. lie Trojan horse las been introduced, out OF
vi oh will issue armed enemies OF the existence OF the
Mr. TRUMBULL thought the gentlemen entirely
mistle Ell ~ TO the principles and views of the Repu)
IcaDa. He would sndeavOr 10 enliRhten them M a
calm, aud candid manner tie did not like hear them
u,e tie word South in this Il, liter. Not more than
ohe.twentetb OF the people of the South are ri ave-
ioders and that class should not arrOga,s TO them
se,y.s that they are the South. The exclusion Of
Slavery from the Territories operates on AL alike.
N,TieTf men viii have more right TO carry slaves
there than Southern men. The Republican party bad
s origin in the question OF Slavery in tho Territories.
The territorial question was ted and the Demo
cIsc patty unsettled il. tie went Ia aude to the
tenn Black Republican, whirh had bren ured.
MI. y ULEE said, the Republican name having been
coIfecIated by the fathers Of the country, sectional
ary had not the night 10 appropriate 1t without some
qualification. He would not call them . Black, bat
uuld leave il 10 Themselves TO supply tho designation
M. TRUMBULL replied, they call themselves Ro-
pubhcans because they advocate the principles of oi-
iertOn. If his party had made any departure from
those PRINCIPLES no would ctndemn such departure.
The fathers OF the old Republican party were their
odes, from whom their principles were taken. The
very words in their platform TO which the Senator
fion Florida objected, were written by the hand OF
JefeIfon.
Mr.. IULEF-To create, and not destroy free Gov
trnmepi.
Mr. TRUMBULL-Yes, and we perpetuate FREQ
government by maintaining tie principles We advO-
cate Tie oil OF PARTY call themselves Democrats,
wien their legislation il all shaped for the interests Of
tie sayeLoldng aIirtoeacy comprising only one OUT
Mr.. CLAY-Do you recognize the right To reclaim
ful hive slaves III the Terntories1
Mr. 1kIlMBULI--I do under the act Of Congress-
but Iot under the Fugitive Slave law unless 1t Is made
az licabe. 80
Mr. CLAY-How do you reconcile the obligation IN
VI ur platform TO sive all freedom with the coun-
ieryaling night TO reclaim fugitive slaves
MIR. 1RUMBULL-That obligation IL merely rep
clifton OF the doctrine enunciae ed IN the Declaration oil
II de endence Our fathers did not undertake TO carry
out their principles perfectly, as every Government Is
eneroaehmeht more or lers upon she natural r8n.s
Of man. They were men who had fed from the dee
ot.m Of the Old World, and enunciated the general
PRINCIPLES Of carrying them out as lar us circumstances
Ielmnted
Mr. CI.AY-Explain how you can reconcile as con-
ei,teut with the letonal integrity Of the trainers OF
the Declaration OF Independence and the Federal Con
sttuilon Il holding them as slaves, retaining Them
az slaves aud distributing them by their last will and
among their desceudants, with the declar-
ton Il al all men IRE entitled 10 life and liberty.
Mir. TRUMBUIL-Under the circumstances, they
did Lot reLaId IT ar a crime 20 bold slaves.
Mr. Cl.Al-Are there any circumstances under
which Grim. can bs instifed, excused or tolerated
MIR. TRUMBULL--I don't call 1t crime IN The cHi-
z.ls OF Tie South 10 hold sla' es.
Nj. CLAN-ls poiygamy CRIME Tour platform
elartts Slavery aud lygamy together
Nj. TRUMBULL-Itisa CRIME under some circum-
taI Ger. take il that it is not crime IL Turkey.
Mir. CLAY 0uterrupting-l thank you for that con-
ces,ion III this Christian country.
Mr.. TRUMbULL-Ne regard u as CRIME, O1'
oiLer nations don't regard II 70. don't regard mold
inp SLAYER as crime; they are often head ia The
Souitern States think il is wrong, but II Is better
TO endure wrong than undertake 70 riBu' "
greater crime aud greater evil.
Mir CLAI-Tbtn | understand him that r1gnt and
wrong are merely conventional, and oepehd on the
law aud moral sentiment OF society
Mr. IkUMBULL--Not entirely, although many
,bin,s are criminal or innocent according to eircum-
stances When We speak OF crane, We mean violation
of tie LAVE of the land Tbere were no laws against
lhgamy in hurkey, nor against Slavery III the nun.
ting of holding persons in slavery, depends on
lie circuu stances OF the people who have slaves.
hold IL as an evil but in NY judgment II Is mol crime
m every instance. have never 20 regarded ~ a DO
not believe Slavery Illegal IN the District OF Oouos
MIR. lUGH asked If no spoke for his parry, OF Tor
M. ThUMBUII said he spoke for himself, and eN-
rlal ed the principles of the Republican party M IN
dersood by The peol le Of the North-wesl VINO are
cot,ervs,ive nioIoving, and law abiding people
Mr.IUGH asked il Mr.. Chase of ONO was al eX-
rorelt Of tie principles OF the Republican party.
Mr. TkUMhUIL replied that the platform was the
only authorized source whence 70 derive tne.r piS
pes There might be as much diiiereaee between Tue
continents Of different Republicans, en some points as
tetNsen MIR. Pugh and the rect OF tue Denovrallc
larty, on the question OF sqnatter soVereShy,
lthc ugh he did not think there was; Ihis WAs 'ue
crted Of thirteen hundred thousand men, and no
doubf some difference existed IN their OPINIONS
ON certain points He maintained that neither
Congress nor the Territorial Legisistnrer h"o
rover 10 ereste Slavery IN territory ana TOOK siOn
sourd "a favor OF cooniLnR under the fostering care
a. he Government the free colored PoPulalon al the
United Saies, and those who may hereafter become
free by the voluntary act Of States or individuals on
tons place territory not too remote anui Iney
become enabled 10 form government ior themselves
lie expr,saed lie wlsh that this sheuld become the
,eitled policy Of the Republican party tie read from
he wrrnss Of Jefferson and speech OF Henry Ciay
beAring on that subject. ar, TT,
Mr. DAMS referred 70 the fact that Mr.. TrumouiI
had lot oply introduced aD sDendmeni to euoaIrass
e rcaouti1n, but made long sPeeeh on the general