The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-08-12


rious 70 enter into them after IT, in order 70 modify
Engagements which, II they AreIleh unmodaed are cacu
lated to cause renewal Of hostlles. (aear, hsar)
"But" rays the right honorable gentleman, 'for hea
vens sake don't 90 into conference and mint this
country TO respective engagements" Excellent sd
be found from the blue book that there q moment
when the late government were prepared 10 guarantee
SARDINIA Tor I'VE long years against any attack from Aus
ua- NOW, II ever there an eng agement not emoar
RAISING merely but impossible for this country fully to
perform is this engagement which our predecessors 80
easily and jauntIy offered TO undertake. Why, II the
medtated attack upon Sardinia had from any quar-
ter over which We could exercise controlling power,
well and good We might have measured the OK 'snse'
tage, and struck the balance. We might have said,
"True, 1t is rksome and difficult undertaking but
think we can fulfil it, and make II We will" But should
like TO ask the right honorable gentleman In what way he
would have prevented Auhtra from attacking ardnia
Would be have army to Genoa to resist her. and
could he have sent Of sufficient magnitude But he
will say this was not an engagement to be taken by
England simply but by England and France. THAT
the guarantee while France 10 have the burden OF
furnishing the force which was to give effect TO IT, "a
laush The French government, seeing through auch
proposal naturally did not choose 10 accede TO it, and
the meter was at an end mention this 20 chow that
when admonished above all thngs abstan from
conference by those who 80 warmly urged congress-
and WREN we are warned 10 avoid entangiug engage
mens by those who ready TO enter into the engage
ment have described the exnorations thus addressed
TO us need net weigh unduly in determining the conduct
which the government ought TO pursue Sir, our desire
Is simply this-we wish well TO Fay; We think IL is u
lull OF people endowed Win every gut ltO
ydence. The hon. gentleman says its inhabitants no.
Ike ourselves that must not treat Italy We do
England; that we must not expect popular opinion to
be called forth there as II Is here Unhapply sir Iay
not treated like England but there ia no reaeon In the
nature Of things Why IT should not be-there
In the nature Of man why It's population should not be
capable Of enjoying the civil and political liberty
and Of working the institutions with which fortune
has favored u.s. And, If the councils OF Europe lay
the fountaton Of such improvement by any arrange
ments that possibly be devised hold that the 10.
veInments which should enter into communication for
such purpose would deserve the applause of all who
value the welfare and happiness Of mankind Cheers
The discussion was continued by Mr.. Baltic, Mr..
Mines and Mr. Whitesde, who reviewed at much length
and with great severity the Italian policy OF the govern
ment in 1848
Mr.. DRrMMoND expaated upon the power Of the Papa
cy, and urged the danger to this country Of meddng with
questions that did not concern US.
The CHANCELLOR Of the ExcHEoUER, in replying to Mr..
Whitesde, examined with great mnuteness statement
Pamerston then Minister Of Foreign Affairs the British
government would intervene to peace that LON
hardy should be made entirely independent and veneta
dina had, he said, accepted He showed that this state
ment was the result Of complete mistake on the
should na4 in' Ss @
ference, he urged the distinction between those
provisions Of the treaty which lay between the bel
sphere the war; belonged to the future relations Of
Italy. Under the circumstances he thought it would be
the grofses mprudence to come to hasty conclusion to
repudiate a Conference, and he had, no said, the
strongest hope aud conviction that the House OF Com
mons would not consent to nerpose between the execu
tive government and the exercise of its discretion in the
endeavor give the peace the form most conducive to
the tranquility Of Europe
Mr.: MicuIRE defended the Pspal government against
the structures of Lord Palrerston, drawing very fiat
tering picture OF the prosperity Of the Romagna
After few remarks by Mr.. P. Urquhart,
Lord @. HAMILTON vndcated the of Mr.. White
sides statement that Lord Palmerston had lS4S missed
the opportunity Of separating Lombsrdy from the Italian
prosecutions Of Austria
Lord j. RUSSELL the other hand maintained the &C.
curacy OF Mr. Gladstones history Of the transaction BE
defended the mission OF Lord Mimic to Italy, aud ex-
pressed his belief that If the people Of that antry
left TO themselves they would form sound political in
gtitutions.
Some remarks were made by Lord Lovaine and Mr.
Knnard, and the discussion ended by the papers being
ordered 10 lie on the table.
THE DISARMAMENT IN FRANCE.
From the Paris Moniteur, July %
The Emperor has decided that the army and navy shall
be restored to peace footing with the least possible de-
lay. CIEmpereur decide que les armees de terre ct
de mer seraient dams plus bre dela resesa lie
pied de paix')
From the London Times, July 2sl
The Mortteur Of yesterday contains the most welcome
announcement that could come to English from
foreign land The French Emperor has issued his orders
to dsarm With the least possible delay the army and
navy Of France to be restored TO their peace
ment. The people Of England reading these glad tdings
will take q deep breath, such takes ,ohe
that a he psr y dreaded has rfd auay and that
they may turn back 10 peaceful pursuits, and 10 the
pleasant paths of human existence It WAS not in panic
+,
and regarded that heavy cloud % charged with eectr
city, which oomed upon the horizon We felt that
must burst or must dsPerse aud II II burst we ma 1s
bolt must fall Frankly then, acknowledge in this
sautay determination Of neghbor and ally proof Of
adherence to the friendship which has united these
two great nations, and gladly recognise in it pledge
of future peace to Europe Undoubtedly, the re.
for the true interests of France. she has had
her Of glories and the Emperor has gained
his first crown of laures 1t moderate and 1t ia wise n
aha 10
maxim Of personal economy, which is true also in public
and national concerns Napoleon I'LL has donc perhaps,
he has dome all that he has chosen to attempt We will
now stop to discuss the shortcomings TO anticipate
what may be the ultimate result Of the new system that
must be there established Having no wever deter mined
coee this chapter Of his history the Emperor has
wisely consulted the financial exgences and the material
advantage Of his kingdom in staying the heavy expend
hope, long repose from the Improbable toll OF
war. We have said upon former occasions that for
war to be popular In France 1t must be short and
must be successful The which has just closed has
fulfilled both these conditions We recognise in this dis
armament the me sagaSy Of the Emperor in gausug the
that may return 70 security and peace We shall,
Of course, in due time follow the example Of neigh
pleteness of peace establishment There many
specks rust yet 10 be rubbed away and many moude
ing works yet to be repaired But these merely the
ordinary matters Of defence. Having no ideas Of
aggression, and being too careless Of remote
possibilities, we have let many things run into
0lbrepalr. Inc careful uOuSenOu0r pHlntS buu
papers periodically and have been stimulated by
cent survey premises and make good delap
dations. Happily, there Is no further need that
this should be donel haste. We have handed the
sideraton Of these matters 10 Commission which
about to decide what the permanent defensive estab
shmen which these islands require in times Of peace
the basis whence upon emergency full establish
ment might be quickly built up By the report of thst
Commission we shall be guided; and we congratulate
selves and our readere that may hereafter deal with
these questions dspassonatey points Of mere engineer
Ing or strategic science and without fear that the for
cations which England, like all other Powers must
sary keep up, In danger Of being at any early day
tested by an enemy
From the London News, July 90
The French govern ment announces its purpose 10
place It's army and navy upon Q peace footing. The
cution Of this WOULD be the most valuable pledge
that could be given for the peace Of the orld. 1t true
that the measure exists at present only in intentions true
aso that do not know the extent Of the reductions
contemplated and true, moreover, that whatever their
extent they must still leave France mighty neighbor
But let moderate desires to what is possible,
throw away great opportunity by upreasonabeness
This diminuson of immense ornaments is spon-
taneously resolved on before the armistce Is a
month old, and while the peace exists only in its