New-York daily tribune., 1859-02-09
THE OTHER SIDE.

THE OTHER SIDE.
Tina far the Coy.roors have hzd .beir dsy Nov
let us hear from other parties. And rst, we present
statements of parties in the yery house where these
children were tortured Including the statement Of the
womsn heIseE
Hrs. FroSts Statement.
I was employed by Mr.. kelock last May TO visit
the children as nurse under the Ten Governors was
dire ced TO visit them in three months, and not
oece q n5.A az has been stated IN the papers; as
compensation / was to receive one shilling for esc1
child visited; visited the children IN May last snl
then no, ogain until the month Of October; 10 May
vited Mrs Caough, bet did not vist her 10 5tobsr
as beT name not pu, upon ny list, a. Mr. hehock
| rtg0rdd her as 80 good nurse hH ae dd pot stSa
r1suihg; but ss she lived 90 near her che had
| been H. bu, never four times in her life Gov.
Noloney told her, about week since, be wanted TO
visit some Of these children; and she gsye him list
from her book; ard amor the rest she gave hm Mrs.
| C1lloughs name; that GOV. Mooney called on Lef
there and be 40 never made any visits before he
took tbi. let which sae gave bm soys that ste found
condition of many Cf these children very bad and
where she did, che removed themi she sal1 tha DEM,
in black for the death OF her husbsnd these
women-some Of them from whom she had had t1e
chillTt reInoved-wOuld call her, when she weat into
their neigLbOrEood, "the ID bla b-h, and taat
ebe did not dare 90 out after DARK as they threa.
ened her life; as for these children in Mrs. Cd!-
loughs hands, what was sad about their be
ing starved, &c, not truei she knew they
were well taken care OF, and that they ald mol
who had supplied Mrs. Culough with mix, and had
been 10 zee him and he told her that he had supplied
Mrs. CullUugh with two quarts OF mix every DAY;
ipquriig where this nlkman obtained his mix she
card he lived up somewhere about lorkyc, and kept
CO.'S Cf his OWL this statement was made IN the
nc rBng; csg again III the evening or rather about
ocOck IN the afternoon, We said; " You TOLD us you
know tie man Of whom Mrs. Caloush tCck mix, AMI
that she toob two qusrts day will you tel Inc bis
name if YOU please ?" " His name is McManus, and
he lives on the Secord avenue" Mr.. Kellock
wanted ne TO see hin aod tell HIM 70 be
AZ the Hall at 4 O'Clock on Monday afternoon;
che said that although the condition Sf these children
was so bad when she began to visit them, she had i'm
proved il ten per ceIt che thought was wrong inst
this story sbould have gone into the papers, when
she was at Jefferson Market Court she saw the re-
porter of 1HE TEIBUSE, ard gave him bio ricg up;
Keock wanted to the reporters and have the mat
ter all hushed up, and not have II go into the papers
atal
Mrs. Frost bas SIR Of the children, and is as
slated in taking care of them by her mother.
Siatement ot Mrs.. McCdrfoe.
Mre. McCartee has lived in tie bouse Nd. lS6
Tbiiy.fouIth street rfeaIy three years. gays Mrs.
Cul ough moved in about year since; that the chl
dren che had from the City Hall were very baiy
used; that they must have been drugged, for they
hardly ever cr.d that Mrs. G. often ont all day,
end The children left in the of young girl; MIR.
and Mrs McCartee both state th n there have been
good many deaths among the children; all felt an
Doyed to see the dead cart so often, aud after
il was spoken Of, the children, when they died,
were earned away in basket; both say
ndkmaR came to the house until within
ten Gays, but that roman used to come;
when tie children would die, Mrs. Cullough would
boast that she could get ust many to board as she
wanted she was one of the Oldest nurses and sue
could get children without any trouble; that she had
bad two dollar bill with which she bought scarf and
gave il to some one who had something TO do with
giving out the chlldren; Mrs. McCaree said there was
another woman who Lad lived IN the house who had
some of the Aims House Children; thst this woman
gave the children enough TO eat, but she was intem-
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woman came to her one day aud begged her 20 lend
her fifty ceLts aud she her give II to the persOn
who carries ont the children from the Hall she does not
know whether IT wss hush money or for what it was
given TO her. Mrs. McCsriee says she knows that
OF the children brought to Mrs. Culough We're tpe
healthy children and that they would in short time
ds indie Gown to skin srd bones or DEATH from
bearing the CHILDREN cry thinks they must have had
opiates of some kind Mrs. Culough OF such vio-
lent temper nobody in the house wanted snytbiag to
90 with her except the family of whose number
are involved in her difficulties sbe has had company
men snd womer both running in and ont Of the house
almost every hight till II, and o'clock.
StGtemeW Cf Ms. ScLiaeler.
Mrs. Schingler an intelligent German woman, evil
IDENTIFY very respectable, and refined and lsdy-lke in
beT manners; resides next door to Mrs Cuough; her
husband is tne OF the house in which Mrs. Gull
Tough lives, well as the one in which they reside
themselves the houses being Nos. ISL and lS6 Thirty.
fourth street Mrs Schingler says Mrs. Cul'0ugh al
ways paid her rent; che usea to 90 into Ma. C.'s
dren she had from the City Hail. and she knows they
were not well treated; is sure they did not lave as
much 10 eat as they needed, nor did they have the
kfnd C food trey ought 10 have had size h1s Mrs.
T.. ere them potato dDlecs for 6T supper save tnet
some Of the nsgL bors annoyed By toe frequent
appearance OF the de sdcart al the door for the re-
moyal of these children ard when il was spoken Of
the bodies were afterward taken away in q basket:
Mr.. and Mrs. Scbingler both say that the tenants
began 70 complain of Mrs. Cullcugh's con1act and
company very soon after she moved into the hOu .e
ana desired that she should be put out
Statement Of Mr.. ScLick
Charles X. Sclick is German cabinet maker; az
intelligent, temperate man; himself and wife both
corroborsts the testimony Of Mrs. Schinger and Mrs.
MoCsIee in regsId to the appearance Of the children
when brought TO Mrs. Cullough and the brief De-
Nod required TO work sal sLd thorough change in
their condition. both say that Mrs e. was d womsn
OF very violent temper, and that che would curse he
children snd use the most terrible language .oRard
them; they have known her repeatedly TO pct the
children naked under the hydrant, arl tia. oct Of
pity TO the poor Little things, Mrs. Schick woaM 10
out 10 the hydrau her floor and I'LL her bcer 20
prevent the water from r1nppg up stairs they have
known her 10 put Child under the hydraot within
uree weeks they hardly ever heard the childf5n
cry except when they fell out Of bed at night; have
thoueht from the chdrens not crying that they must
have had some opise given to stipify them NJ milk
man ever came 10 the house st all until within very
few days; woman usei to come with milk. from
whom she thinks she took pint day; she had con-
Pany meI and women BOTH running IL and oct az az
hours Of The night; disturbed them SitL loud tsln
ard carcing until after midnight; woman rho wss
said to be CaifcrIia widow came and was confined
in the house, and Mrs. {. gave her an outf. for her
bsby from clothing that came from the Almshouse
department !
Statement Of NJ. AID Mrs. NicE0L
Mr.. and Mrs. Nickol, German, lived on the sane |
floor with Mrs. Culough; Mr.. Nickol had lived in the
house but few days before he forbid his wife. going
into Mrs. C.s room speaking to her, for he theugh