The Washington union. [volume] (City of Washington [D.C.]) 1857-1859, 1859-03-06

Ing revenue such as ae enumerated in the rst clause Of
the sth section OF the constitution must originate IN the
House OF Representatives
That section reads follows
Congress power lay ese, taxes, dass,
posts, aud eHcises'
The amendment of the Senate provides for taxes
upon the people eoneinp plated by the section OF the
constitution comforting upon Congress the power Of rails
But we look 70 the public lands as source revenue
aud look 10 the deductions from the pay Of mariners
ion the purpose OF supporting marine hospitals poe
ton OF the well to the hostages, II the
point made by the gentleman from pennsy be
rect then the Senate has power 10 provide Tor the
sale of the public lands because they source OF
revenues the senate have right to provide fol- impo
sing light dues on tonnage dues and has right 10 pro
vide for deduction from the wages of for the
support Of marine hospitals, because Ia his opinion they
\ would be bills raising
i Mr. GROW. propose this a question OF the prisi
egcs OF the House under the constitution and not
point OF order gentlemen say
MIR PHELPS, of Missouri. will not debate theques
4 ton further demand the previous question
Mr. GROW. suppose the Speaker will ut least sub
nit the question 10 the House whether this is question
j of privilege not eft
The SPEAKER The Chair supposes that the gentle
man is entitled to vote upon his resolution but the diff
fculty which the Chair has is To priority-whether
the motion TO commit will take precedence of the resoiu
4 ton not. tBEtaasHH atfI
Mr. GROW. II would defeat the object OF the
luton TO give priority to the motion 10 commit,
The SPEAKER The bill with the Senate amendments
has been taken from the Speakers table The gentle
from Missouri moved 10 refer the bill to the Com
mittee Of the Whole the state OF the Union. The
gentleman from Pennsy vana raises the question that
the Senate by particular section OF the amendments
has invaded the privileges Of the House The Chair
poses that the proposition of the gentleman from Penn
syvana is properly submitted and that the question will
have TO be first taken upon that proposition.
Mr. JONES, of Tennessee. ask the gentleman from
Missouri withdraw the demand for the previous ques
ton to enable me to submit the following amendment
St,ra ntau tbe word lived and
.sthat the amendment Of House bill No. 872 making APP
preparations for the expenses OF the Post Office Depart
men for the year ending June 80 1860, increasing the
rates of postage Is not IN violation OF That clause OF the
constitution which requires that all bills for raising the
shall be originated in the House Of Representa-
| tives I"
(. Mr. PHELPS. Very well withdraw the demand for
the previous question for that purpose and will renew it
Mr.. GROW. Do / understand that the gentleman
from Missouri admits that amendment is not in accordance
with the understanding entered into which was. that
I l should have u vote directly upon my amendment
| Nh PHELPS, of Missouri Would motion TO lay
the resolution ON the table carry the bill with III
/ The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks not. He thinks
| one is independent of the other
| Mr.. PHELPS of Missouri. 1 move then to lay the
I resolution ON the table.
/ Mr. GROW. demand the yeas and nays upon that
/ motion
/ The yeas and nays ordered
The question taken, and it was decided in the
negativeyeas 80, nays LOG as follows:
YEAs-Mes.rs Airi, Atkins Avery, Blrsiac ocock,
ea %' o @ clay Cobb iJ cene en Missouri
% ayi. Of Ind PAWS Of Miss powde Edmapa9n English 70
kins Hodges Hopkins Houston uge iiayer jackson Jenkins
Queen sIeae Mason Miles sh-on Moore, N'blnck,
Peyon Phelps Mo Ready Reagan, ,un SAM de Scale Seward,
Va stevenson stewart Md, Taylor " Taylor Of la
Ward Watkins wh,esy wnsow woodson worten,ke Wright Of
NAYsMcsss Abbott, Ali Andrews Bennett, bishop Bla'-,
Conn, Clark n " cawso cochrAne, cos, comps
Iowa Daws Dean bswa Dick Dmmck podd, Durlse renon,
Florence Foster Gis Gilman Glmcr, Goocb Goow Goeabeck
ard Penn kn Kelsey Knapp, Kunke Of Penn
Leach Ied Letter lovsjoy Mchinsa Marshall of Ky Matss0n
H. Murray on Palmer Psndeton, Petit,
Russell savage sherman Ohio " spinner stanton
sGn M %Sn aSmp Val
wis., washburne Of H., washbnrne Me- and zolconeroe
SO the House refused to lay the resolution on the
table,
During the call Of the roll l.
Mr.. JEWETT stated that he had paired off with Mr.
CASE, who had been called to of the departments
If he r JEwErT were at liberty to VOTE he should vote
| "aye" ..et19
Mr. HARLAN stated that he had paired off with Mr.
Mr. PHELPS of Missouri would be very willing
that the question should be taken directly the resolu
ton without any further discussion, and / the
previous question for that purpose but want gentle
to understand that il this resolution is passed and
the bill returned to the Senate the Post Office appropra
ton bill will probably be lost Ii the bill Is considered
in the House, in Committee of the Whole the vote of
the House may be had upon every amendment of the
Senate and division may be had in reference TO this
18th section between the clause increasing the rate of
postage and the clause abohng the franing privilege
| / demand the previous question.
The SPEAKER. The Chair desires TO inquire whether
the gentleman Withdrew his demand for the previous
question to permit the gentleman from Tennessee Mr.
JosEsl to offer his amendment.
| Mr.. PHELPS of Missouri. Yes, sir.
The SPEAKER The Chair will announce that il the pre-
vos question be seconded and the main question ordered
the question will be first upon the amendment OF the
gentleman from Tennessee, then upon the question: when
| the Chair will hold that it has exhausted itself
Mr.. GROW. 1 think it was hardly in accordance with
the understanding that should have vote directly
upon my resolution, upon which understanding
agreed that the bill should be taken from the Speakers
/ table
Mr.. PHELPS of Missouri. / had no such under
standing.
Mr. GROW. Very we'll will have no misunder-
standing when the next appropriation bill to be
taken from the Speakers table.
! Mr.. PHELPS OF Missouri. I had such under
standing. In conversation this morning / understood
the gentleman from Pennsy wanna TO desire to nuke
point of order, to which 1 assented. did not know
that there was any understanding that the gentleman
should have direct vote on his resolution s
Mr.. GROW. That was certainly my understanding
There other bills to up and shall that
there is no misunderstanding IN future. not dis
posed be iacous in reference to these appropriation
bills but give notice that il this understanding not
carried out will not give my consent TO take any other
| bill from the Speakers table
| Mr. STEWART, of Maryland I do not see any ne
eessy for insisting upon this resolution. understand