The Washington union. [volume] (City of Washington [D.C.]) 1857-1859, 1859-01-07

Poneo nnt.i Thursday next week which motion was
not agreed to-~ayes 81, noes g.
Inc inoilon Oh MI. coonHsNE was then agreed 10.
rnl INDIAN APPROPRIATION lLL.
On motion OF Mr. PHELPS Of Missouri the Uouse
again weut into Committee OF the Whole on the state OF
tue Union Mr. TAYLOR, of Louisiana In the chair aud
resumed The consideration Of the bill making appfop
tons for the current and contingent expenses Of The IN
dian department. and for fulfilling treaty stip.lstons
with various Indian tribes for the year ending June 30
1861 the question being ON the amendment of Mr
srEENs OF Washington, providing $50 600 ior b,ingng
70 Washington city, and atiording them opportunity
OF visiting the principal cities east OF the Rocky
delegations of the Indian tribes Of Washington and One
gon Territories 10 portion OF the bill proposed to he
stricken out by Mr LoyDoy, OF Illinois The amend
nent OF Mr. LoytJof would strike out the appropriations
ior the incidental expenses OF the Indian service the
compensation of superntenacnts and Indian agents pres
ems o goods and agricultural implements and for keep
ing the Indians their re servaons in the State of
Texas and the Territories OF Oregon and Washington
Mr. LoVE1OY stated his objections TO the bill ~
am france, Napoleon sad and the process OF cen.
trazaon went on for few years as IL had for
years past the Executive could with equal truth say he
WAS the government. When measures Mere propssed
when bills appropriaiing immense reported by
the Committee of Ways and Means, and their passage
urged not on the ground that they right but simply
that the Executive has recommended them IL was con
sidered matter OF extreme favor and grace that the
mtee have reported only about one half what the exec
uve departments had recommended
Mr. PHELPS, OF Missouri wished to correct mistake
into which the gentleman had fallen. and into which
pubo journals had fallen lie had only said that the
Committee OF Ways and Means had adopted the estimates
OF the Secretary OF the Interior who had reduced the es
Inmates OF the commissioners of Indian affairs and super
wishing agents about oneh half
Mr. lONEJOY said there a report in the papers
as having the authority of the chairman OF Commit
tee OF Ways and Means that unless the legislation of
Congress- should suit the views of the Executive they
would be called together in extra session. He wonl
like to know whether that report had the authority of
the chairman OF the Committee of Ways and Means
Mr. PHELPS. There Is so much noise that cannot
hear the interrogatory.
Mr.. IOVEJOY l cannot hear word.
MIR. PHELPS understood the gentleman to PROFOUND
question to him. He did not hear what was said
MIR IOVEJOY asked the chairman if the ncwspa
per reports had been made with his sanction,
Mi PHELPS. am not responsible for what the news
papers say.
Mr. LOVEjOY said it was reported, upon his authority
that unless the tariff revised the Executive an
extra session would be called
Mr. PHELPS was ready to answer that question al
though 1t was irrelevant the matter under discussion
Unless Congress provided for carrying on the gov
eminent during the next fiscal year. either by nlodihca
ton OF the tariff by loan, by treasury notes, by
other method there would be necessity for Congress
convene during the ensuing summer.
Mr. LOVEJOY Had it the sanction Of the Exccu-
tive?
Mr. PHELPS replied that the President, when be de-
sired to have organ in the House, would select
other person, and his opinions would be communicated
from the Clerks desk. He spoke his sentiments
and the sentiments OF the gentlemen whom he had heard
upon that subject but he had heard such opinions
pressed by the President
Mr.. L0VEJoY, after further argument inquired upon
what law these appropriations for Indian reservations
were made
Mr.. PHELPS replied that the act OF 1853 authorized
the collection of the Indians upon these reservations and
subsisting them with the view Of making them sbeist
themselves.
After Mr.. LoylJoY had concluded his remarks
Mr.. PHELPS referred to the point of order made by
Mr. BRANcu of North Carolina to the effect that nothing
could be placed in the bill except that covered by treaty
stpulatons. The Iule which the gentleman had cited
would apparently hive the effect which he claimed for it,
but the cotempoaneons construction of the rules Of the
House became part Of the rule itself and from the time
of the adoption Of the rule quoted the cocmpolaneous
construction had been that it only applied to treaties
goated between the United States and foreign nations
and not to treaties with Indian tribes f4a4
Mr. BRANCH stated that he had only intimated his
purpose to make the point Of order at the proper time
Since then he had been informed the construction Of
the rule had been such intnated by the gentleman
from Missouri, Mr. PHELrs
Mr. BRYAN, Of Texas, opposed the amendment OF Mr.
l0vEIoy, and said that If the appropriation not
made for Texas, the Indians now the reservations
would be turned loose upon the settlements and adj
ditona expense would be Incurred by the government
in sending troops there to maintain the pledge given
Texas when she came into the Union Say you will not
give that protection, and will protect ourselves
We have done IT, and do it again.
Mr. GlDDlNGS said that Texas admitted by a res
oluton, and the gentleman had better the repeal
of that resolution.
Mr.. BRYAN replied that resolution of the govern
ment with sovereign State treaty. What was a
treaty. 1t compact entered into by two sovereign
powers; and it not compact that entered into
BY Texas and the United States
Mr.. GIDDINGS recoected that Texas did not como in
BY treaty The treaty proposed was not adopted BY
the Senate
Mr.. BRYAN knew there s,as thing introduced into
the other branch of the national legislature which was
not wholly approved, but when the compact which had
been entered into dsegarded they had the right as
they would do it, of going out Of the Union! laugh
ter
Mr. GIDDINGs declared that any former resolution of
Congress might be repealed, of which they had very
striking illustration in 1854.
Mr. BRYAN said that all he had to say was repeal it,
and Texas would know what to do. He did not know
but what it would have been vastly better If the annex
alton had taken place and if Texas had never been
in the Union and II protection not given to her ell
her people will think So as great portion of them do
now, and they would repeal it.
Mr. GRANGER, of New York had heard now and
before that unless the general government provide troops
to protect Texas against these Indians the whole coun
try would be laid waste He wanted to know III Texs
not able to protect herself against few struggling
Indians Tie thought he heard the gentleman say that
unless they had protection the affections Of that
people would be rapidly falling. He apprehensve
that not much love would be lost.
Mr.. BRYAN replied that with such the people of Texas
willing to part. They had received nothing but
what was their due. All they wanted to know was
whether the government intended to protect them
They relied upon the promises made to them and If they
would not give it, then they would resort to the
hitherto used for their projections which had been amply
sufficient Let the vote upon this question determine the
matter so far as he concerned he would rather the
appropriation excluded.
M GIDDlNGS said it struck him that the remarks Of