New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-11-24
PUBLIC MEETINGS.
AMERICAN INSTITUTE FARMERS CLUR


Ui,esIIs aeoss BasiRess-The first hour of The meet
! ire As usual wss devoted 20 miscellaneous b0.iness
during vi eb the Secretary, Judge Minis, read ono
/ extracts from foreign journals, &c.
CrorLerrffs.-The SEcKETARf stated that Je-se C.
Young showed him receipt for $3.50 The ne, result
Of onc-,hrd q Of the scrub-oak land Of Long
I.land cultivated in cr3nhsrries. This - tbs third
! wear. lie fays: The sol Il sandy loanl--the sand
quite coarse We have 10 SINK our wells % feet 70 ges
| water. Just where the cranberres gTow. The vines
were taken from the swamps on the island where
! tley grow wild. ret my vines m drills 80 inches
nrart and about 10 OF u inches apart in the drills and
kspt them clear By hand wedding, using manure l
sei nv vnes az any time in the Fall Spring when
/ con, ereui. an planting them al this time.
CALHoRSIA NEsETATIoS.-ihc SEcREr4Rf stated
that the receipts OF the late State Far IN California
were S35lOo. Pears exhibited that weighed q
| oUnces, and peaches IL ounces.
ET BRUcT made some remarks upon the prevention 0f
heves f. ON stealing growing fruit which he gathered
rom California paper A fTuit-erOwer mmeTses fruit
| IN solution OF p-eseuanha, where u II liable 70 DO
stolen. II works Ike charm. Several persons IN tho
vicinity have lad send for and pay the Doctor aier
stealing Of this prepared fruit. The apples, 90
rears grapes thus prepared, are marked 10 a. nos
10 be rartaken VI by The family As soon a. It be-
comes known thar the fruit u unhealthy the owner -
/ not troubled with fruit pllferers.
J Deloware Grcpes.-SoLoS RoBISsoN-Mr. Chair
f, man. while We talking OF fruit wish TO call up
| the subject OF grapes; became i see DIR. Grant OF
Iowa tie greatest propagation II grapes in the world
and Andrew s. Fuller Of Brooklyn, whom we know az
a horticultural of both practical and scientific knowi-
edge and continues 20 be repeated thai the Des-
ware and red Tfamner grapes are identical want one
or both Of these gentlemen 10 state few facts teuen-
ing the ease. -
Mr. FuLLrR replied a. follows to this question We
are well aware that there has been much talk about
tie Delaware grape being the Red Traminer, bat It
" as only by tho e who did not know either. How
any person, a casual observer could confoand
tie two If than can understand for the DIFF
ference between them IL apparent that man, by
Il sense Of feeling, could easily tell one from ths
other. The buds Of the Tramner, Ike all the foreign
varieties, are very prom'neni-much larger than me
Delaware although the latter has buds quite barge for
a native. The large bad Is marked characteristic Of
the foreign varieties. The bark of the Delaware has
tie deep straed appearance Of all our natives with
hard scous covering, perhaps the hardest of all not
excepting the Concord which il resembles in color.
II IL reaTy destitute Of bl0on which il always upoA
The wood Of the TBmiDer. Toward the end of tho
shoots the Delaware exhibits The peculiar hairiness
which is another Characteristic Of the native yne The
Traminer has a soft wood, with large, hght-co!ored
spots upon il, especially when grown IN the open AR,
and il quite tender 10 this Latitude, killing 70 the
ground unless protected, while the Delaware H az
hardy AS sny of the lid fOS grapes. The Iramner has
tLin rufied leaf, difficult 10 press fsi without
its lobes overlapping or splitting. The Delaware q
perfectly fat thick, and eaihery, like the Catawba,
Dinna, Concord, Anna &C. All of these have thick
leaves, and not liable 20 sun scald OF mdw, WI 10
the Isabea Rebecea and others have thin leaves
and subject to hs disease antess grown under very
favorable circumstances. The mdew IL not likely 10
attack perfectly healthy native vine, and generally
attacks them the tine Of cold, cloudy weather when
the leaves have become weak from the want OF sun;
therefore i'll be that vines, 10 be healthy, must
have a full exposure TO the sun if you would keep
them free from this maady. Weak growers are not
likely to have wel-ripened wood and leaves the hrst
year from cuttings unless assisted by artificial heat
consequently they have unIipened roots. The Tram
ner does Lot nIen its WOOD IN the open air while tho
Delaware does, and perfectly. is quite difficult 10
make the Delaware strike roots from eattngss
the Traminer strikes very readily. The Enldew that
attacks our naive vines is quite different from that
which attacks the foreign. The one that attacks tho
foreign the upper surface and passes 10
the pedunce, and thence 10 The hult, and rs OF a
dark color. Tie 10 which our native yaretles
are liable appears more gross presenting the appear
ance of small transparent bladders, minute pearls,
that are disposed attach themselves along the mid
rib of the leaf the under side; consequently they
ften destroy Il boiore person - aware OF wba "a
the matter. This native mldew and sun-scad are
mutually disposed toward each other; that H. II
Plant is weakened by sunse.ld il is particularly pre-
disposed to be attacked by mildew, and plant
upon which mildew fastens Is obnoxious to sun
ald as its hie-bood is sucked out by this parasitic
plant. The fruit of the TRAINER does not resemble the
Delaware a much as Baldwin apple does q SPit1-
enberg, AID one who can see a difference between
these, would lind II difficult 10 distinguish the
grapes II YOU will pick the Delaware before il "a
quite ripe you will lind that the skin parts readily
rC IN the flesh like the other natives the framiner adj
heres 10 the flesh the same as others OF s class II
you allow young vines of the Delaware 70 mature all
the fruIt that sets they will have quite tough pulp,
and have that peculiar fOxness which no foreign grape
ever lad.
that il originated in the garden Of Mr.. Provost, in
Frenchtown, y. j. and Is supposed 70 be a seeding
from the Cataw ba ierthzed perhaps, with some for
eign variety. Ii irst became known at Delaware,
ONO, few years ago, and now, wherever known, e
IS esteemed above all other varieties for ia wonderful
hardness, IA well rs excellence Of fruit. Mr.. Long
worth who at first thought the Delaware and Tram
iner identical, has now gwen up all idea OF that kind;
and bis head gardener stated 10 me, short time since,
thai be considered the Delaware the best graen thE
country for general cultivation.
The i'HAIRsss ASKED the Doctor 10 state whether
farmers in general can easily prepare ground fog
gTnIes-
Dr. GRANT replied, that any good corn land, deeply
prepared viii grow grapes, but for successful vine.
ward the land should be treneked three feet deep, and
made ricb and there is nothing better than swamp
muck for this purpose. II should be comPosed VILE
animal manure and well rotted and thoroughly mixed
with the soil.
X g. PARDEE-The people Of tbs country have IN
doubtedly been much imposed 1Pon oy TINS REQ ram
Some nurteTymen have also been imposed upon
III ose who " ish to plant true Delaware vine must
be careful where they obain their stock have ex-
auined a good many bearing vines, and have never
found one that did not give the highest safisfacton
DR. GRANT stated that be had imported every vari-
ETY. of grape and had found that could Withstand
our Winters while the Delaware grows in every kind
of exposure and never suffers As for the story about
the delaware growing wild 10 Pennsylvania, have
that matter thoroughly, and defy any ono
10 produce an iota Of evidence 70 sustain the story
A Remarkable Beet.-The CBAIRsAs exhibited
very remarkable beet, bearing striking Resemblance
10 human being seated, with his legs drawn 1p be-
fore him. He stated his opinion that this form Was
owing 70 a want OF depth Of nIlage. There was
strength enough in the top soil TO Produce stiong
growth but the sub-soi was so hard that could not
grow downward, and 30 il turned up. The production
OF root crop in a ratio proportioned 10 the depth tho
soil il made mellow. have an anecdote about tho