New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-08-23

SirG. G. Lewis-How did ,he ueu cbain that aidi-
hon o. ~ per ecu. To their wssss ~hioh you have
spcke6 of
seo.ber az tho Deputsiicc o,plsiuei thai tie de-
maud Was enforced hy ttrikc; b., az tts. time &
great uauy a. bs best e,'i-.' igrzed to the gold.
heds andIt p,gb, be- desc ibed ainost ss paur. n.e
10 wage
Sir @. c. Lee .-Bu' the s.na sort Of machinery
IVES by ugti 20 L. ar then 90 NV
The Member Exsc'ly che sane.
Sir G.. c. Leai---An6 then ,ou Yielded
The M,D,bet-les. lie woult o1ly sfd that many
Of the weis qcfe anxious to be relieved from
e. tlraldun of theee societies tire masters we're.
Si G Le~i.-Wheo the former Concession wss
u,de, shai - d"u@ With exciting cop'Isc,,l
several BJildeTs--We hod 10 b. ar the loes.
SrG. C.. Le@s-TOe real solution of tie question,
Of cOuTse u ust ultimately BE- ceterIibed by the do
n.bTc end supply. u TIE work people, lookIog az al
IL CiCnms aOces eau sgbstaGtA'e clsm either Tor
tbs Greece for COY other Increase OF wages they
WILL 10 o0ub, atsr certain spoaat of suf alag aud
loss bicted upon Themselves and yourselves, IN axe
good their demand. H. the other baud il turns ont
that They wrOug 10 tier estimate Of wb at the pres
eLt slaie OF th1 maket entities them to- t5ey vii
give ~sy. 1t is Impossible for tie Government TO
fix the pIi,e Of labor; vel u'gEt they attempt 10
fix BE piee OF beac or meat. IL mast depend upon
TIE sts'e e The i7bor market Toe GogerOmNnt mas
be IN pbIts ard Innst not appear 90 favor any clas
Of the conmuoi,y. OF course, il is their duty to pre-
ODER end to that all per have the pOse
Of nskDg fee contract.
Several BuIldtn-Tbat J. al we want.
mis- b lot interfere BY examining the laws which regu
lated u trades enes. aud compelling the removal
- anything which uterfered with the freedom Of Ia
Dor
SIR G.. G. Lewis sej that The rules Of Benef
Societies wee cert 20 Mr.. Tdd Pratt, who certified
that they we're according to Law. There was noihog
thoee rues, therefore, that was contrary I" Law.
ANY thing Ct that sort the neu would naturally keep to
t. tmselve-.
Mr. lite, NJ. p, thought he had gathered from
what had fallen from the right honorable gentleman
that he Was rather opposed to DISCUSSION IN the
House Of Conn
Sr G. C. Lewis said that lie bad offered DO opinion
On the subec but be did not think that the House Of
Commons could undertake to ar0trate between en-
ploJeIs aid their w0rkneD. IL Gas good for great
II al purposes, and it vas moet important, IL mau-
tsinirg tire House Of Commons, that il shOJld not
Undertake to co thing fot which ii was utterly un-
fitted.
Mr.. Cubtt did not ask for the arbitration of the
House Of Commons of the Government, but only for
the eXpIessIt of opinion.
Sir G.. c. Lewis said that tba' substantially the
thing, because, if they gave Tn o0ioIon, 1t must
proceed upon sufficient grOuJcs.
BUiloeT suggested that 10 Messis. Tro.Opes case
the Proceedings OF the amounted almost 10 con-
spiracy. .
SIR G. c. Lews-It any Intimidation is used, or if
ANYTHING rs which within the criminal law,
that can be dealt with.
Another Builder said that the whole system Of
strikes nothing but intimidation from beginning TO
ED.
Mr. Ayrton, NJ p. (wbo had entered 10 the course Of
the btervies aid that he had not heard the rtate-
neIt Of The working people, a9d therefore be did Dot
fee competent to give opinion upon the case, bat
be did not tbiDk that the masters had pursued wise
course combining, aod thus folio wing the objection
able nple set by the lie suggested thst, by
Citation add the exercise of moral influence more
might be eec ed than by closing the shops and lock
ing the men out.
Sin g. c. Lewis repeated that he did not how the
Government could iuteIpose the question at Issue.
When demands made by one nation and resisted
by another they vent TO war but II did not sSays hap
pen n at the nation which frat declared had given
tbe provocatOn. That depended upon the merits Of
the question II impossible for him 10 determine
how The step which the ma builders hao taken
had been forced upon them by the proceedings of other
paities.
Another Builder observed that the Government, as
large employers Of labor might assist the builders at
this iuncuIe by Lot puttug out additional work.
SIR c. G. Lewis REPLIED that if there we're no work
men to be had it would apparently be OF little use to
do 20.
The deputsou then thanked the Home Secretary for
the attention and courtesy when he had displayed,
nd pif