New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-10-15
THE METHODIST CONTROVERSY.
DR.. wHEDos's REPLY TO DR.. CROOKS.

perto1 atty from end 10 end implications Of venaty
irsiIu tors Of orci motive, std tauuts Of personal
jgIorsuee are elements by HIN brought for the first
time ard to ny mos, profound shame and sorror, INTO
his discussion To the fret two only shall offer any
reply.
/. Dr.. Crooks quotes, fret, incidental express
sr. found on the fifth psge Of the pamphlet edition
Of uy letter az my fret position OF importance,
co1ti. IL Of the following twelve words; T" We sn:u
msn our posts with true, loyal, conservative Anti
Slavery men," Upon these Incidental words, not
alluded 70 in any other part Of my letter, Dr. Crooks
fixes sud eIciaims in capitals snd forged quotations.
" Your bsttle-cry, then, is OFFICE, and be pro-
oeeds eXpsId for ny mouth those few words into
en eccesisscO political stump speech and found upon
his stump speech an elaborate charge OF making
" Office the main sLt yensl OBJECT OF my AnN-
SlaveTvi7u.
Tie facts are these: wss showing what was 10 he
done IN the contingency thst the next General Con
cree allied Of two-tbirc vote Necessary 10 change me
general rule and % end the contest. My reply wa IN
effect that a. the baite for uutn aud righteousness
would then continue, We would NAE our pos', Nln tus
proper men, ard continue the struggle Upon ms
remark
l. To any fair n ind who're the passage incidental
as il s 10 The main current OF thought, II i intntveJ
clear that oc areward or motive Of action, vas
@. 10 the writer's thought. The " posts were named
SIN ply a. MANS al fundamentally, moral agency
20 s given moral end, rot IS source OF emoluulsAt
or inducentnt. Tie remark would have been ju-t the
seine if the "posts' were unsalsried, graiultou'
"poi's," whose duties were performed for the de-
red end. Fer any man, then, TO match up THIS slgh
expression, exaggerated II INTO battle cry c.i Ia
position u importance, ana utter an 81 c'p-aniIn
h6.aDsue upon H. is simply ridiculous. IL resembles
the trickery with which low politicians have calgnt
up the phrases of Mr., Seward, the higher Law. and
toe iriepressbe conflict torn them from their true
cornec.icr perverted or exaggerated their a'tna
mearipp and made them the cant terms of caaIpny.
II was IumOred 10 my ears thai our Pro Slavery msa
were play Jug this oegra1ed game orally; the pafpose
has been noioIousy and proyaby svowed, to s'ereo-
type this phrase into GIcqlaole nue. and cry "neIe
with to hunt e down but did not dream that msn
Of Dr. Crooks required scholarly standing was caps
bic Of taking il up from the gutter and putting INTO
black AID white ] thank him for performing toe
scayeDgery for il enables me 70 meet ana Drand Us
corsummate meanress.
H. / said nothing sbout OFFICES The word
"oices" is first introduced by Dr. Crooks. II sbounds
in bis reply but does not occur once IN my letter
mentioned posts namely posts TO be engaged IN
given moral batte-a battle with which most OF the
official positions of the Church have nothing TO DO
and 90 are not DOsfs within the tar intent OF tue
sentence In the meaning of that sentence Tor augnt
that appears, the Epscopacy the BOOK agencies Tue
missionary yshp, and the Quarterly Review
are not posts for they have nothing to do with
"the struggle" The only "pos.s Of that contes. are
our weekly papers, which are al now 20 iar az
am able or called upon TO say, manned satisfactorily
enough for they all sgTee with Even the editor
of our Adrocate and Journal thinks my pamphle;
states about the true position OF the Church, ana OF
d i
him The whole of this battle cry" is therefore, no
battle. cry at all. 1t is simply for all they can make
it, quiet vilin gness that cur hebdOna1aIs should
for aus ] know, remain about as they are. When,
therefore Dr. Crooks puts the words "All the offices
into forged quotation marks, a. II they are my words
when he says that this phrase IL my "ralying cry
whe. he says my purpose IA " oiicee al any price,
when he talks about my " Office flag, and POUNDS All
this studied imputation in the parts OF his
piece upon that clause his whole string of assertion
however smart they may seem 10 trlckster VIII DE-
pronounced most disngenuous by all honorable men a.
forcing false meaning to words for the purpose vi
III But II is my right to retort DIR. Crooks, that
be flies into most extravagant paToXSsin, on TINS
subject az OFFICE" ] cam OF be allo@ we'd TO alude
with sidelotg rod pole TO the importance o inannug
for the future contest for righteousness, but he hates
IN with "your battle cry then IL OFFICE surrey
"ofr," must be uppermost in DR.. Crookss heal
Office" must be the subject Of his dreams. All he
offices" must certainly be his "raiylpg cry; Aud
although had in my pamphlet stated ai the mo-
inportan. moral positions the subject before TINS
phrase about posts occurs, yet Dr. Crooks con
deIs this little phrase my first position OF imP?r-
tarce." That is, in DR.. Crookss estimation, the
first position of Importance not the moral Oh. 'e
official positions Surely, DR.. Crooks head must be
aching for a inter- or bis palm ticking Tor saaiy'
lie no doubt up csndidate and his reply 70 me
in THE TRIBUNE is TO be considered as his hrst cleo
toneering stump speech. Such retort as tins say
il il in nv power to make DR.. Crooks, and It woui
be perfectly in the spirit of his attack. But be 1t un-
derstood, do not make it. only spread II before
Dr. Crooks 70 show him how easy and now dsngeha-
ous il is to fabrcae plausible personality founded,
la politics upon some slight and perverted eaten
words Perhaps | may enable him to see the sel'-
decrad alton Of his course aud raise him 10 the
| level OF honorable controversy.
- DR. Crooks next personality Is an endeayOr 10
make me responsible for the principles OF the Rev
Hiram Matteson The facts these: In my letter
tembodied in panphet show that on one SIDE OF
me is one eITeme, TO which Mr.. Mateson Is commonly
held TO belong and on the other side more dtstruc
nre extreme 10 which DR.. Crooks belongs. Now II 30
| happens tha. much obloquy has been heaped on Mr.
Matteson for occupying that eLtreme ana ~ Orooks
thinks il pice to transfer that ob!oquy 10
me. His only proof that l have ever stood on that
platform contradcts him TO the face. That whole
proof consists of single sentence of mine IN the Qaar
tery Review, noticing an Anti-Slavery panphle, OF
| Mr.. Maueson's. IN which ssy,
Without consulting ouy're' TO all ii' po'I'ior we may
y that in the auth orty documents the cosency Of h AZ
rrmens AID the clear ring OF its Style ms Is oue OF ne '
row erfu documents Of the great AntSaveTy struggle
Now, the truth of all this notice, resiiirin, and
when he in effect, axis Inc, very rhetoricaDy II thh
pamphlet is rot the very worst thing published IN inc
| controversy, say, No Sir. DR.. Stevens pamphlet
Threatening divide the Church tarougn the center
we 60 not submit 10 the retention OF stupendous syS
tenn Of sin N the Church, IL thousand times WOrse'
The man who for the sake Of sIousiDg us ron SIN,
oyerpsnts guilt is not half so bad az the man VINO
would keep us bourd in sim. You, Dr. Crook'' are
pleading for sin in the Church of the living GOD and
there is DO man you hate, with most unrgnteous
hatred, as the man who paints thst sin in the very
| blackness OF IFS blaekress. The documen. hakked
about our city for lsy signature under your auspices,
| maintaining the desecrstng POLICY" Orpermsneni
slavehoding in the Church. thereby adopting the plat
form OF the Church South, document believed TO oe
| ap eectoneeripg expecient for OFFICE, by othet
than MI Slavery men, ard painfully suspected 20 De
so by some whose names caught in IL trsp Is IN
| con parsby worte than Mr.. Mattesols pamphlet.
| What Won call Il" scrrrIous pamphlet IL not naN
as " scuIrlous' a your reply TO me- Your long fIo
Slavery speech indeeOrously obtruded upon "a, New
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