The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-02-23

o. 'he saIdinian kingdom. No one c'nld rejoice
heartily than be did at the estab,,shu,snt
# free constitution in Piedmont; no one could moro
az mre the conduct OF those who, spite OF ,ny oa
ces, pantaoeo that consttuion il vas with er,er
VIM he shared with his noble friend behind and his
noble friend opposite, that he this departn,e
The sound bonora able and ward priue ples
Sicb bad heretofore regulated the conduct Of the sar
drian government He hoped and trusted that n. ,r;
re7al TeproJdtian thar strong tens uri-
renal soToao h,ch fh ut their departure from sound
o"d righteous pcey would cause them to it oce,
FJaDce lis Whole interest, differing it did es-
stpiay Dom ~ p0sItion forty years ago, when had
no commerce. manufactures, accumulation OF cap-
tsi, no rali"ays no commercial specuafions either Of
home or foreign uade-the universal opinion Of all
classes and all parties against any breach Of the peace
ana The UNIFORM good faith OF the French government
OF which we had recently had striking the
case Vi the African slave trade all led him the
most confident expectaten--bope wOulu, indeed, be
hardly strong word-tbai the part of that coun-
Try there would be attempt to JOIN the Slrdnian
speculation, called, that that speculation
would turn out entire failure Iu Germany the
feeling was the ln all parts OF Germany
hui one feeling and opinion deprecatng any breach
OF me peace OF Europe, and strongly urging the
maintaining mvoate the faith of treaties He did not be
hsve that the French government given any engage
meht 10 heip SARDINIA 10 extend her territory The ut
most that they had give an assurance that
saoDia were attacked by Austria OF which there was no
chsnce she should receive assistance from France A
greater calamity could be conceived than such ro,s
raent as ueded Italy, because loo,,sq al me state
Europe, It 'cos impossible that betueen Sardinia
and austria could omg be conf fined TO Lombardy Sooner
~ later nust end IN general European 1Uar. Such q
calamity as that it really frightened cootempate
and be heartily joined with hs noble friend who had ad
dressed their Ordshps in expressing a sanguine hope
that no such misfortune would beall (Hear hear
The Earl OF CARLISLE did not rise to prolong the dis
the subject which had naturally engrossed the
greater Of the speeches delivered night He re-
erred especially 70 the speeches made by the leaders
each side OF the House, fun, weghty and admirable
they were and which he trusted would their effect
notoDy within those walls bu: nhe country through
out Europe. He was most happy to find that those
speeches had confirmed his strong opinion on the
great topic which Interested the public mnd ana
gave ground for the hope that England would be
the latest moment-he woul1 fan forever-from the
guilt and madness Of wantonly engaging in war;
The address in answer TO the speech FROM the
then put by the LORD Chancellor and declared 10 be-
carried nemine dtssenttente
THE DEBATE IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS
The Lower House met formally at hapast one, for
than half hour previously the members had be-
gun 10 assemble
The SPEAKER announced TO the House that he had at
tended her Majesty the House of PEERS where her Ma
esy had been pleased to make most gracious speech
the throne The right honorable gentleman having
Ieat the speech which will be found in another column
The SPEAKER then put the question, when there were
several cries Of Agreed" short pause ensued and
seemed as the address would be adopted without
ther observation but
SPEECH M OF LORD rAIMERs1oS, Ex PRIME MINISTER
Lord PAIMERsToN rose amidst some merriment to ad.
dress the House. he said Sir not rise for the our.
pose Of adding "Do' to the "aye which has already
been expressed. (Hear, hear.) / rise to propose no
amendment mgh indeed perhaps if it were moi taxing
liberty propose some amendment in the Composition
OF the address, but that would be to trfe with House
upon an occasion Ike the present. has seldom think
happened to this House to moment when greater
and more important pending than at the
present. We are assembled with the prospect according
10 the general impression, of the Continent which
must II takes place, be productive of great disasters
We assembled with the announcement that We sha
be called upon TO enter into solemn deberaton upon i'm
portsnt changes in the Of this house. These
are questions Of themselves sufficient to engage to
the utmost the most anxious which the meu
bers Of the legislature upon any subject Re-
fore enter upon the topics Of the speech must express
NV in fh.ca
stion with which the honorable member who moved this
Address alluded to the auspcious which has re.
Gently taken place in the family of her Majesty Cheers
am persuaded that there not man In this country
who will not respond TO the sentiments which the honors
pie gentleman has 50 properly and with such good
feeling expressed. (Cheers.) When that nIustrious
princess quilted these shores the people Of Eng
land looked upon her as the daughter of Eng
future welfare We may reasonably hope that the prince
TO whom she has lately given birth may live long to be an
ornament and advantage the country Of 6s birth
and an honor to the lineage from which be has sprung
cloud cbeers.) Although cannot 60
SO far as the seconder Of the address saying that the
last embers Of rebellion have been stamped OUT because
We are old in the speech from the throne that
there are st 10 India armies in the ed yet il evident
that which remains to do will be chiefly pursuit Of those
fugitive bands who more marauders than enemies in
the field 1t crafty ing know her Majesty "a ad
vises will turn their to those subjects which are
essential 10 the permanent tranquility Of India There is
great ,,s ,snAsy in this this country to know what
to the principles upon which India shall be govern
ed The speech next adverts TO the state of our TO-
reign relations, and undoubtedly that is one Of the
most anxious matters to which the attention OF the coup
try can be turned (Hear. hear) Judging by what we
told there is probability of great European war
beginning by conflict in Italy between France and sardi
MIA ON the one hand and other the object
Of Sl which WILDE VIII be- presume the expulsion of Austria
from the frontier Of Italy. Now thei are many who
think and undoubtedly OF those that it would be
most desirable with merely the interests of
Italy, but the interests of Austria herself that should
not possess those provinces south of the Aps Hear
hear do not believe that those possessions contribute
70 her strength. am sure that they place her in point
OF view which makes her object of hatred 10 many
ana involves course of policy from which wise govern
ment might be desiroos to abstain. But must
recolec how it is that she is possession of those
provinces. She possesses those provinces by vir.
tue of that general treaty of 1916, which is
the titleoeed Of many other territories in Europe
possessed by other Powers That treaty the great
settlement Of Europe. 1t might, perhaps have been
many portions OF that had no, been
inserted treaty-(near hear)Vand as now tnrns
out, II would have been better think If different ar
raDgemenis had been made for Northern Italy But we
mus IN order to judge of that carry thoughts back
10 the state Of things the time when that treaty was
made, and the reasons which at the led parties
the best There certain claims the part OF Aus
ia founded upon ancient possession. There we're other
connected possibly with the future defence
OF that portion OF Italy. AT all events right wrong
that was an arrangement in which the great Powers Of
Europe concurred and they sanctioned it by treaty and
huDty submit that Poer could justly utoaie that
treaty ty attempting, ulo cause 10 dispossess
Austria Of that chch the treaty giues her. Treaties ought
be respected If any theoretical preference were TO set
the stpuaons any treaty all the affairs of Europe
would By and would be impossible TO tell the con
cusion % which such principle would lead Cheers
The beginning Of war is not light thing (Hear hear
II IS easy 10 begin IL; is impossible to say what will be
s limits: War between two such great Powers as Aus
ria and France may begin about the possession Of Lom
hardy but TO say who might ultimately be involved in
bat contest is beyond the sagacty of man. (CheersO
hose therefore, who would engage commence such
war should duly weigh the responsibility which attaches
o public men. To commence such war would be 70 in
olve Europe in calamites which would be difficult to
escribe, for cause which, however the abstract de-
irabe, would by no means justify such war. But in
ayne this must also that although Austria stands
pon the firm ground OF right with regard to those pro-
nces, which she holds by virtue of treaty to which all
he Powers OF Europe pares she not stand upon
he same ground Of right when she goes beyond the limits
which that treaty (cheers)-and that the occu
ation OF the other portions OF Italy belonging her
hould hope that, although there will be war-I
here DC none-I should hope subjects having
been taken into consideration by the different govern
nents OF Europe, arrangements would be made for the
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