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XxxvIth CONGREss-ist SESSION.
WAsHINaron, Decem Der 10.

rick, Of ILL.,, bs appointed President pro tenn,
IN NE Foot OF w. said the more recent practice Of
Tho Senate then SsCSS r 70 Prssdsn uro s
With the following result Fitzpatrick 49, Foster i9
Mr.. Fitzpatrick then took the chair. t... .l
me 0nair presented report from the Treasurer OF
,he United States with copies Of his accounts for the
second quarters Of 1859.
Mr.. Mason asked that his investigating COMMITTEES
= Mr.. Pugh called up HIS resolution submitted on last
Thursday, instructing the Committee Territories
s act for hs o tSa
Governments OF New Mexico and Utah as require all
laws passed by those Territories to be submitted to
Congress for approval or rejection.
MIR. Hale said 1t was not 10 order to proceed to
legislative business prior to the organization Of the
Mr. Pugh stated that he desired TO reply to the re-
marks of the Senator Of Georgia, Mr.. Iyerson) which
spoke on the esoution the point Of order. He
desired to defend the Democracy for the charge
sSundne.s which did not come with good grace from
the party as the Northerners. He spoke of the diff
Guilty 10 the North Of battling against sectonalism
elected tho senator from Georgia to DO Judge of the
soundness Of their Democracy. He repudiated the
sentiment that the position Of Senator Douglas Oh
Territorial rights was akin so the Wilmot Proviso or
Anti democratic, and read from aspeech In tho Con-
gressionsl Globe. showing that Csss sustained the
mr. Pugh also quoted from the speech delivered by
MIR. Iyerson In tho House eleven years ago, which
as sOasss famous Nicholson letter or Douglsss Free.
port speech He referred TO the instructions sent by
the Georgia Legislature to her Senator'S when the
Kansas Nebraska bill was up In favor of non inter
yention, and he said he stood on the Georgia plat
form He proceeded to reply to the remarks Of Mr.:
voted, ss sxpounded by Douglas, He would meyer
have given that vote By saying that Mr.. Gwin did
California Legislature to give that vote and that the
Legislature wrote down for him in that instruction
what 1t thought the Kansas. Nebraska bill meant.
r. Il voted ilgtruCtiOla
Mr.. Pugh-I do not suppose the Senator pretends
he Ia better exponent of the views Of his State than
his Lesislatureis Now, having read the non.inter-
yention PLATFORM propose to read the squatter SOY
remark, that this odious epithet, squatter sover-
eighty, which has been used to frighten the people
California, and wa, applied to her in the formation
Of her State oonstitution In which Mr.. Gwin him
self took an active part The Lecompton Constilu.
safe ground upon which the advocates Of the LIE.
compton Constitution can occupy for, one moment
the Democratic party. Having quoted the senti
ments Of the California Legislature whiethe Kansas
Democrrtc platform adopted IN California since the
last session of Congress-, which 10 almost literally
copied from the Ohio platform drawn mp by MIR,
fiestated what he understoodthe Kansas Nebraska
bill meant, adopting for that purpose the language of
Interpretation as found in the Message of.January
"a, 1856. He also quoted the resolutions adopted by
4l,ln
of his position. He said that his object was TO show
that varous attempts being made contrary to the
opinions formerly entertained BY the Legislatures of
the Southern States, to break through the principle
Of the compromise Of $780, and to break through the
covenant Of the Kansas bill, and on that text to
preach sermons on the soundness unsoundness of
OWNS speech at Grass Valley, Cal., whore 1t is
that Mr. ROnsss dspOsed from the Ghsir
his views on the Kansas bill. He would not stand
up here to deiepd. Mr. Douglas, who was an able M
i COMMITTEES for that reason they might thereby be
mpelled to expel ninety y-nne out Of hundred Of
no longer question OF individuals, but Of principle,
and instead Of assaiing a man who was absent II
would be more. manly to do as Mr. IVerson, and
He Could see nothing in the Lecompton case that
ought to divide the Democrats or to make 1t nsces
sary to make change In the Committee on Terri
tories but the fact OF the case seemed to show that
Mr., Douglas was not removed for that cause After
he had made mis- spa in tns ana %
| the AdministratoA and almost the entire body Of
| the Democratic Senators North and South, the
The Territorial COMMITTEES, and he remained there re-
until the Lecompton controversy was dead and
buried. Now the avowal Is that he was not removed
for that course but because he had the misfortune
to entertain opinions which are entertained by
the sp IL - Ddy tEy n tS North he
hss fsowshp % Il, as the Senator from California has
ion, do you mean to have 1t 60 forth the country
that whoever entertains these opinions is unfit to be
| o member ef the Democratic party2
| Mr.. Rice, of Mimi was party 10 the tTapsac-
tion and uphold It,
| Mr.. Pugh went on to refer to the usage Of the
| to displace q Senator without his consent, and
second-never to promote any else over hiua. He
hs tSs usage was bad
twas usage which has operated to give the Sen
from States thS chair
Senator from Illinois was the only exception, and hC
was dscapitated now. He thought the simplest wa,
down all these attempts from one section of The
Union or the other to disturb the platform of the
TSiIiHs al present on the Slavery question The pro
cesdings In the House Of Representatives we'll a
in some Of the State Legislatures, ought to sdpon
defiance and threats from one quarter and the other
which are frsught with danger to this gloriOu
MIR. Iverson said he would take some future occa
sion to respond to those remaTks Of Mr. Pugh whcl
By
MT Mr.. Gwin explained the action of the Oaliforni,
to and quoted By Mr.. Ppgh. They Intended to tax,
the subject away from Congress and leave Y to tn,
tribunals to decide such questions This position O
the Democratic party in California is that these are
purely Judicial question: As A. TO the action In tht
that Senator to be here when the Senate was organ
lied, and he also contended that II was right thai
the majority of this body and who responsible
for It's organization, should no longer place man al
the head of the Territorial Committee holding opin
ions in direct conflict with the majority on the sub
ject Of Territorial power.
With regard to what MIR. Pugh had said with re
gard to ninety mine out Of hundred of the Demoo
racy and every pon sleyehodng State agreeing witt
| Mr.. Douglas, Mr. Gwfn said NJ Pugh might speak
That question had been tried before the people BY
| an overwhelming majority Those who agree with
| Douglas have been condemned. The maintainanct
IS tk IpQa han n IA rati
Mesws. Gwin and Pugh, in which MIR, Davis also
participated presenting no points OF special interest
Mr.. Hale hoped that, inasmuch as the question o
order be raised TINS morhng aa & naa Gsen
Mr.. Lane, of Oregon, desired to say few words OF
the question which had been.up, II Mr. Hale woult
sir. Hale-1 will withdraw anything tho Senator
MIR. Lane remarked II was not his purpose to pre-
scribe rules or lay down platform of principles fo
the Democratic party. He had nothing to do witt
were many good Democrats in the Northern State
who did not agree upon this question Of Territoria
rights with the majority OF tho party.
He would not oay they we're not good s Gsnoerat 70,
that not holding the views of Mr.. Douglas woult
have been reason for him to oppose that gentleman
as the Chairman Of Committee on Territories. HI
was sorry to find his own views on the TerIitoria
question differed very materially from Mr.. Pugh's
BE held that q Territory is the common property o
the whole people, in which every Stat In the Unior
has equal rights, and that while In Territorial stat
the people could by unrisndly Legislation Is Or y
people of any State Of the Union In the case Q
Arizonia, for instance, which was well adapted t.
slave labor he would submit to it that the people
fSs Rh TSs
| of aauality of the States must De maintained, an