The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-11-22
TIE ITALIAN IMBROGLIO.

Garibaldrs Progress Towards RevoIu.
tion-EIss Reply to France and Victor
Emanuel-POpe Plus the Ninth on Re-
form and Social Order-Positi0n Of the
French Envoy In Rome.
letter from Turin OF the Both ut in the Union says
H. Dabormida, Minister of Foreign Affairs, on returning
from Paris, entertained the firm conviction, which he
several occasions expressed in the Council Of Minister'S,
"that the King of Sardinia must entirely abandon the idea
of getting anything Romagna and in par ocular
recall all the Pedmontese officers serving in the bands Of
Garbadi, if he wished France 70 aid him in European
Congress-"
courier sent TO Garbaldi with counsel in accord
dance with the desires of the French Cabinet but the &C.
neral replied by very sharp letter to the effect that the
command Of the Romagnese troops had been spontaneously
offered him by the political chiefs Of that country that
his arrival he had found not an army capable Of serving
but mob without discipline cohesion and that in
less than two months he had increased their numbers and
disciplined them; that it he, in fact, who had created
The army Of Romagna and that the fate Of that country
was in his hands; and that consequently ,could seer in
any cede to The couels Of PorG tich has injured
the Italian cause He said, moreover that II the Pied
moneste Ministry should be disposed to adopt new line
of policy different from that which he and the Cavour Ca
binet had adopted in common, he (GaribaldD would
maintain alone that policy and would cause 1t to triumph
over all weakness and all resistance" This letter, which
said addressed to the King, read In full
Gill; and caused diferenceof opinion among the Minis
ters-Messrs Dobormida and Della Marmora wanting
dsavow completely the presumptuous general and TO join
the conservative party, and the other Ministers being
opposed such rupture II s this incident which gave
rise to the report that modification was about to take
place in the policy Of the Cabinet
Another Turin letter Of the Both ult. says j
General Garbadi who arrived here the evening before
last left again yesterday for Bologna, after long au
dience with the King MN. Migorati and Rosa, who
were the only Pedmontese fnnctionaries remaining in
Romagna just resigned their posts Inendans Of
Ferrara and Ravenna You will not fail TO perceive the
political significance Of this measure with which the Sar
dinian government and NJ Dabormidas late journey TO
Paris are not unconnected.
says- have 10 believe that the following details
respecting the understanding come to between the Pon
fcal Court and France are correct nt
The Duke de Gramont, during the stay of the Pope at
Ge Gna M Mn great a 70
10 Duco said the Pope to the Ambassador on the eve Of
leaving for Porto dAnzo "on all that you have said to
me, and for which am much obliged to you. On my re-
turn we will endcavor to to an understanding all
that not contrary to the interests of the church, The
day after his return the Pope was the first TO revive the
subject and from what he said in the course Of long
conversation the French Ambassador felt almost certain
that Plus * Is disposed to mako serious reforms such
as extensive judicial ameloratons communal eectons on
large and liberal bases, and very extensive secularza
ton Of the administrations but the Pope, II Is said, stpu
ates that first Of all the integrity Of his States shall DO
This last point presented serious difficulty The Duke
DC Granont however, not discouraged has assured the
Pope Of French protection and has dwet on the fact that
tne treaties OF Varanca and Zurich adopt the principle
OF reestablishmen Of his temporal powers In the Lega
mons. He however, at the same time showed the Pope
no Of foreign ntervention and labored TO
nm that restoration OF his authority would be
nnMeiy more easy If the proclamation Of new system
" administrator were to precede coercive measures
take provided they do assume the character or for
Ssn 'cr r venton even on the part Of another Italian
osa Inc luke de Gramont, in order no doubt TO en-
courage ING rope ~ his favorable Intentions has limited
una. s possible the departure Of the French troops
favorable Incidents, Cardinal Antonels stil STRUGGLING
against French influence Nee'iAe
From the London Times, Nov. Al s9
The position which NJ DO Montaembert takes nm With
regard TO the question between the Pope and tho
TONS when clearly Defined overthrows itself He Admits
the right resistance in Of msgovcrnmen as broad
y as any wing member Of the Convention which placcd
William and Mary on the throne Of these shnds &c does
not deny that there has been mfsgovernment X not by
geher to permit the subjects Of the Pope be the Judges
whether the extent Of that misgovernmcn justes them
ment in other hands To allow the people to judge Of
this would be- according TO N. De Montaembert TO sap
the foundations of all government With whom, then, is
the decision 10 lie? Not with the Pope himself,
for that would BIO TO deny the right Of resistance
which NJ Do Moutalembert distinctly admits nor