The Washington union. [volume] (City of Washington [D.C.]) 1857-1859, 1859-03-18

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should DO withdrawn, the case may assume a ye1y diner
ent aspect. should, of coarse, hope, AS Ii would uni.
versoliy be desired, that those two powers would not Der.
sBt Ia continuing 60 protscl "a State which declares il will
protect Itself, aud hcnoeiorwand docs not want them
But il Is easy 10 see that contingencies may arise thai
Franco aud Austria may not agree as 10 the mode jn
which the evacuation is 10 DO carried out, OF that one or
other may impose conditions ON the Pope which he mnv
think not consistent with his dignity to grant, and that
this question may still linget in that state Of suspense
which has already become so dangerous 10 Enrope
Hear, hear Therefore, II my noble friend sees no oh
lection, / shall take the liberty to ask him what is the In.
formation which has been received by her Majesty's gov.
eminent and | am the more anxious that this informa.
ton should DO given in order that no discrepancy may
mar the effect of the discussion on Friday night. which
like tho one ON the first night Of the session, must be
most beneficial throughout Europe, by showing the per
feet unanimity with which men OF all parties desire that
the faith OF treaties should be maintained inviolate, and
peace secured by removing all pretence for wal.
[Chees.l
Tho Earl Of Malmesbury said / am extremely glad {,
give every Information in my power 10 my noble friend
and to the House, but | think his observation as 10 tho
discrepancy between what was stated by my right honor.
able friend in the House of Commons, and my answer 10
my right reverend friend ia this House assumes rather
the shape OF a distinction without a difference. We meant
exactly the same thing, and at that time our knowledge
was confined 10 the fact that the Papai government had
requested, of its own will, and not from any hint from
either OF the other powers, as l believe, but, however
that may be, had requested the evacuation OF its terrific
ries both Ky Austria and France. i said / believed
that before long those territories would be evacuated, and
it was no great piece of credulity on my part, because 1
cannot conceive that, if requested by the Papal States to
withdraw, either France or Austria would hesitate a mo
ment, having no right to remain there after the sovereign
of the Papai States had requested their absence. There
fore, both my right honorable friend and myself were
justified in saying that, having received u communi.
cation that the Pope desired the evacuation OF his
territories, that evacuation would soon take place.
But we had, besides that, and previous to the
communication being made, received a general in.
timation from Austria that if the Pope desired the
evacuation she was ready to comply with his request
We had also received from France as general q state
mont, viz that she was also DESTROYS to withdraw from
Italy and that If Austria also agreed to withdraw.
and the Pope wished them 10 to withdraw, she would
evacuate those territories. But, since addressing your
~lordsbips the other night, the French Ambassador has
called on me and stated that the request has been made,
and the French government are willing and anxious to
withdraw their troops. L have not received any further
communications from the Austrian government, but |
have no doubt that Austria will do the same, inasmuch
as some time ago she stated what 1 have now stated to your
~lordships. or course, a movement of this Importance
cannot take place in a few days, or without some pre-
vious arrangements. With respect to these arrange.
ments, or any conditions to which the noble Earl has al
luded, If any are made, i am not in a position to in.
form your ~lordships, because my knowledge is restricted
to the fact which | stated the other night-namely, that
the Pope has demanded tho evacuation of his territories.
and therefore j can conceive no reason or excuse for those
forces remaining. Hear, hear.
Lord Brougham said whether the statement made by
the noble Earl was the same as a statement elsewhere, /
will not stop to inquire at all events, we have it now
correctly but l hope l may be allowed to ask my noble
friend whether the aimaments are going on upon the
other side of the Channel, and whether / am not correct
in the superstition and hope that these ornaments would
really have been going ON Independently of the late diff
ferences that have arisen, aud, in all probability, al
though nothing that has passed had taken place. My
information -and l hope and trrst it is well founded, for
| have it on high authority, and that authority not
Frcnch-is that the condition of the magazines and the
state of preparation in France were such that great
changes were required, and great improvements in their
means OF deicnce-or offence, as some may please to
think thcm-indepcndently OF any shing that has happen
cd since the first of January. / am sure that my noble
friend and the government are clearly of opinion that
there is no reason to apprehend any thing from these ar
mainents If we can afford at the present moment to dis
cuss questions of parliamentary reform, the effect Of
which may be to shake the stability of the government
of this country.
The Earl of Malmesbury. l do not know that ] quite
understand the question put to me by my noble ircnd.
Lord Brougham. Whether the preparations SO much
talked of, and which are now going on, notwithstanding
the professions of peaceful intentions by France, would
not have been required by the state of the magazines In
that country, independent of anything that has been go
Ing ON Those preparations have been the origin OF all
the alalm with respect to the intentions of France.
The Earl of Malmesbury. Ny lords, / can't satisfy my
noble and learned friends curiosity with respect to tho
state of tho magazines of France. ['tHcar, . and a
laugh i can only state what the French government
have told me with respect to their reported preparations
for war. They state that those preparations have been
carried on to fill up the usual requirements for military
service, ana that there Is nothing special IN those pfepl
rations TO raise alarm in Europe. Hear, hear
From the Paris Corresf ondence of the Ie Nord, Feb. 2I
Whoever believes that by the recall of the French and
Austrian troops from Rome once decided in principle,
the difficulties created by the Italian question are by that
fact terminated deceives himself. II is not because Car
dinal Antoncli, after arranging with Austria, asked the
withdrawal of our troops from Rome, that France can
consider the Papacy guaranteed against the dangers that
the presence of our soldiers went there to prevent Az
Rome, not more than at Vienna, no one deceives hior's,
upon the reality of those dangers; only our troops, u
they Withdraw, are obliged to return by sea to France,
while those of Austria have only a few steps to take 10
~complish their retreat, which means that they could
again occupy the Roman States at the first signal ms
little snare may have been well got up, but IL is 100
transparent for France to be caught in it.
THE FRENCH ROOFS TO EvACUATE THE P0PES
TERRITORY.
The Paris Mon;au of the 9th ut. says
Ellis Excellcncy Cardinal Antoneli announced on The
I'D inst, by order of his Holiness, TO their excelencies the
ambassadors of France and Austria near the Holy See,
that the Holy Father, full Of gratitude for the succo'
given him up to the present time by their Malesties mo
Emperor Of the French and the Emperor OF Austria,
thought it his duty to inform them that henceforth nus
government was strong enough to suffice for its own g.
curity, and to maintain peace in its States ana 'na',
consequently, the Pope declared himself ready TO enuf
into arrangements with the two powers with a yiewW
combine within the shortest possible delay the sitsai~'
Moons evacuation of his territory by the French and Aus
trian armics."
Large bodies of troops from Algiers continued tcte
landed Mt Marseilles. Sixteen batteries of artillery nu
likewise arrived at Marseilles. Each regiment OF artillery
in tho French service was to be increased by two b@"
ries.
1t il stated that the accumulation of military stons