New-York daily tribune., 1859-01-10


Mr.. GwIN said be assumed that II Congress
directs the Postmaster. General to make these con-
tracts no interference in the execut on OF the law
in crossing the Isrhmus at the points named, VIII
BE- tolerated by this Government. by trestles we
bsye the righ, and by pohy are coIn'ht'e 70 keep
thess roaes open, sGd we VIII b. ssrac-1 !. zoe
OF AL eiviiz, rei pe, If Perni, 'be se1k a1 us
tr.etsd governments nat claim arisjc'lcn u nstuio
the treB Il u our mails. As - the m.il - DC c. n
y-v.d Wis Ve.a Cruz, th.re car te GO o'fhca-fy 10
making sn arrsng.U-nt Win al N'o i' = se'uo
ard uninterrupted trsnsit. Bot # ". mot maze
suct an aIIsb, smen, ~th Mexico, The o'H requires
the maIs to be carried s-ni moIiny, " Tshna.tspec
Of the same oomIensaiion ss Is Dos s'losed.
The contracts To be made tor NV years on esea
rou-. NJ Gsir believes tha' at tue sypifst cn 4
rst time the trar rsit BY tie ovela ma, FOetss viii
b, So perfected sbd such Peogrss vii De mate on the
Pacific Rsilroad arc IN The P1-ino I-hsr~p pn na.s,
that we oil pee6 Ocesa lines to cary our mss to
tbe Psclrc COST. Tfes- rou,ts vii always c"ntnue
a, con me-. cia e, snd viii be use - carry tne mails
ru tie United Sttes 10 IN. couD RE t1ey trsverse
but thty vii lot he used 10 transport nails - the
Psc.fc Sisies Of the UDiop.
Tie bill referred TO The COMMITTEE on tho Pos--
Office srd Poet Roads
Next Mr.. JoBssos Tenn offered a resolution, ia
ferr ug 30 much of the Message as refers 10 rcencn
neDt # expe enditures To the tlnabce Committee win
instructions 10 report bull ref rmns rs Tar as posi-
bic, all abuses in the application OF the appropra-
tons 20 as To reduce the expenditure a. h,ses,
rigid, economical administration Of the Goyerpnent
MT. JoHSsos SAID he had been watching for a long
TIN. for a favorable opportunity to co nnence the
work e Ietr.ncbusert. He WIS satisfied nothing
could be done this direction anles the Al nh isrra
ton beg al the movement. We have now favorable
opportunity. IL e tim. Of peace Toe President,
IN il Message, proposes refTenchuent WY s'o d
We not AID Mn III the work Tue le-ton rs, whether
N, Expenditures the Govefpuent are not runoing
far aheaa OF a corresponding Ipcrvsse nj tho popila
tion ana business oi the country. Fats go far To
show that they are. 10 1899, the P9polaucn ot the
United Sfaes was about 100000. The expend-
tuIes n 1871 were orly s2OOo0cO. In 1855 the popn.
lsrion is .sG00,CO0 snd the expenditures SO 'ut
$4,000 00o. The popuaton hiss increased sevea-
iod while the expenditures have iocreased thrty'nve
iolo. With such a reJo going in the future, hoo
long will 4 be until expenditures ot the Covers.
ment go beyond the ability of the people 70 pay
Mr HUsTER Va coocurred in toe necsssity OF re-
trebchment. Tak. tor instarc ce the s Oii Depart
Int nt. Nobody doubt bu. that some rsicsi
changes ought 10 be made by when that Department
should sustain tself The ioea OF its b;ing burden
on the treasury 10 the extent of SIX or nino millions
wear is moDstICus.
Take tne Array. We are subjected to great deal
of unnecessary expense by tie manner Ia which the
army il posted. L. IL not the daty of the Government
10 poet the army expensive pos mons, where II coats
great deal of money to transport To tb.m the neces
s,Iy supplies for the purpose ot protecting u-n wnO
ae In'ruoiDg in the lpdian country aud who can az
q, ' time cal for expansive escort.
ST. in reg ard to the Navy Department We ought 70
qore how far in the present condition OF the finances
x. can properly 20 iucfe ssing the navy. We
oug ht TO look and how much It is costing us per
pun ppon the pres, nt naval cttAblsnment, and what
reform can BE- nade there.
II is monstrous said Mr. Hunter. that We should
be expendng 1000 900 year II scontrary to the
expe ciations Of those Sbo voted for reforming the
tar fl few years ago for the purpose ct cutting down
the revenue. IL is obvious that If the expenditures 81
on at this rate they will exceed the capacity ct
II custeus to supply the wants Of the Government,
ano YOU wUl be forced whether you desire II Or not,
10 look 10 other sources of r-veuae.
Mr. FEssESDIs M .ine) agreed with Mr.. Hunter,
that we 20 increasing our expenditures, they VIII
,oon be the power Of the present sys-
TEN 10 meet them. They are far beyond 1t now. lie
was spxious however tnat the orn when It begius,
or en- attempt at 1t, should begin 10 sucl manoer As
To chow that uerious in relation to the matter
not by preaching reform eternoy, has been in
Presidents messages and other documents shch
sent 10 u.s. without the first moveu. n. the first idea
ggested with the view properly, in any MANNER to
carry out the reform which is recommended. The
President has control of the departments hs officers
IN the departments know where reform can be male,
if any is necessary. Why DO not they suggest it to
US Why do not they point t0 the partl u ar places
to which are to 20 In 0fCer to find out what IL
wrorg in the finances Of the Government We near
no1 ng but gereTel recommendations; aud nov, II yOl
to heap every thing IN relation 10 this matter on on,
committee this period Of this short session. tell you
there lot the reno.est Possibility that anything eau
be accomplishe.
Mr., TooMBs (Ga.l remarked that great scralnbe
had been going on in the various departments each
seeking to get all the money they could, wbici hsi
resulted in enlarging the expenditures from OO0 900
Or three options lett must either reduce the
public expenses to the reyesne which we all know II
ds ci.pt at the present rate OF expenditure; or We
must rai.e the revenue; or We must borro. money.
EVERYBODY to 20 against bOrro ~ng, though
th, ug at there nerlL III thar mode Of relief
if il is :bown TO be for temporary deficiency of
nue. than is accorded 70 It either by the Executive
Government or ts oppopeats tas door. He
.f- fhatsh shaf h.. ne - .pxt
course; std ne certainly thought it would be # it
should turn out investigation that the existing de-
fcency is temporary, not permsaent. Of oouise
losLs are vicious when uede Tor the purpose o. sup
plyiIg permanent deficiency but If tn. deficiency IL
tempTary, loan is the wsest way OF raising revenue
to itmucl wiser than to disturb great system
OF revenue aud vary It for partial causes.
Mr.. STUART Mich) said It had bsen sdlg sted tn At
We must either the t9rlt az reduce the
pendiiDrs sugsest With great Difference, that, iG
ny judg ment, shall have 10 do both thought
the tIe when IT,. last tariff act Sas passed toat It
would not raise revenue enough; but whether am
rgh, or wong, that very pGOpOsiton Will be Ia a
lle as0re demonstrated by carrying out the object in
teuced by resolution offered by the Senator from
Tennessee. By prcgre,siDg from tine 70 time 10
these reCuctioDe soa learn upon how sIna basis
II appropriation the Government be adm nst>red
AKA 40 shall IA the meantune learn how much Of
revenue this taiif viii Thus We saau gradu-
ally approach that very point when we al desire 10
reach which viii abe us IL deterLne how much
lhe taTin is TO be Increased, and nov much the ex
" pCituIes can DC reduced.
Nj DAVIS M ss.l, MT. CLIsCMaE N. c. and sew
eI1. other S-LatOI-, cOcclJed Ia the Lecesety oil
rotrepch huent. The Army aud Po7t-Ofics were ind-
caed the departments which retrencnment could
be most sasly effected. Bot great part Of the dis
cu,son devo'sd 10 the con.cers ion Of the eGped
eucy Of refsIr the matter ~ the Finance Comaittee
il al Ut special committee 0r u TIE committees ou
tie subject, to be iLveslga ed ia detail lhs Ssnste
Adjourned SitnOut coGiing h. Gny decision.
IL tie House, tie Ina al Appropriation bili being