The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-04-19

presentation These were the principles Of the bin; an
the matter Of detail only 10 be properly discuss
ed In the committee In reply 70 Mr. Roebuck no SAID 70
every proposition irrespective Of the three principles,
the government would give candid consderationi
but he declined to pledge himself before any ancusson
might come to-a demand that was unreasonable The
resolution contained only points Of detail which ought
there any In the BILL but admitting
there Lord J. Russell had been the poposer Of whole
she asnnon s zoe % s
discussion comprehendDg the subject Of the county
patton franchise and insisted upon the impractcAbty Of
very struggle taking place With regard 70 the extern
Of the borough franchise he adverted 70 the variety
Of opinions expressed In the House the limit OF that
extension and 70 the absence Of any details In the resou
ton. He could not look he said at what called
ducton Of the franchise in boroughs without great
alarm, and he had never met any argument that en-
countered the objections he urged against it, On the
other hand, he insisted that the objections TO
either groundless nlusory He commended that the
entrance of the working classes would be facilitated by
the bill and that the that a ns com e Of
districts might be urged against the existing system He
addressed serious expssulaon 70 Lord John RUSSELL 70
whose recollection he recalled the instances and the man
which he had overthrow preceding admnistra-
tions and he reproached HIM with choosing moment
serious as the present for party attack which naa been
and Minister, that he bad produced injurious effects
upon the public service He concluded with rapid re-
ton 70 domestic and foreign policy and with reference to
what had been suggested regarding dissolution,
should nnd themselves upon the musings before
their constituents he had that confidence in great
and generous nation that would not forget the difficulties
under which the present had succeeded TO the
administration Of AFFAIRS what they had accomplished
conviction in the justice OF the people OF England
and belief in the power Of public opinion that had
tanned them during this struggle, and sustained them at
that moment.
when the right honorable gentleman concluded was
ntel and ehn Qrant or
having put the question the House proceeded 10 division
The greatest excitement prevailed in all parts Of the House.
considerable number Of distinguished persons occupied
the eeats assigned TO visitors on either side Of the entrance
behind the bar and The gallery immediately over the
clock while both the Speakers and strsngers' galleries
were crowded viii an excited audience Upwards
Of twenty minutes consumed in taking the div-
sion, and as the moment for announcing the result
approached, the excitement rose tho highest pitch
The great bulk OF the MEMBERS usual, on returning
from the division loebes resumed their place. on either
sembed in dense crowd at the bar At length the tel
eIs made their appearance and them there we're cries OF
"0rder, orderP and "Bar barp' As the teers took
their places, it in instant which side the
majority lay, and they advanced TO the table vocfe
cheer in anticipation Of the actual result rose from
the opposition side.
The numbers were:-
For the second reading of the BILL. ...........29l
For Lord J. Russeil's resolution. $50
Majority for the resolution. OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES 80
AS the numbers we're announced the House again rang
with triumphant shout from the opposition benches 1t
will be perceived by the division that 02l members
in aendance-a number unprecedented except on an ex
traordinary occasion, such as this.
LORD DERBY EXPLAINS HIS POSITION.
In the House Of Lords on the 1et OF April,
Lord Derby said that he trusted the House would not
consrue his silence To the important division which had
taken place the House Of Commons into indifference
the contrary he regarded most serious occurrence
1t had rendered necessary him his colleagues
early hour that morning. he had afterwards had
audience with her Majesty He had not received the
sanction of her Majesty to any course he might advise
cotn NJ hat hA
best consult the convenience of their ordshps and the
gravity of the occasion he postponed till Monday all
TO lay before the House what advice, in crisis OF such
Importance he and his colleagues had felt IL their duty to
lay before her Majesty, and the course which, with her
Majesty sanction, they proposed TO adopt.
LORD DERBY's SUPPORTERS IN COUNCIL.
from the London Mercantile Gazette (EvenDg), April
At twelve o'clock day Cabinet Council held, OF
s Of
Peel, Lord Stanley, Mr. Soher0n Estcourt Sir Edward
Bulwer Lytton Lord John Manners the Lord Chancellor
the Earl Of Hardwicke, the Earl Of Mamesbury SIR John
Pakipgton, and Lord Donoughmore.
Sir William Jore had interview with the nrst Lord
the Treasury half past O'Clock this morning. aud
afterwards called upon several Of so iosng supporters
d government.
II is stated that the noble earl will not dissolve Para
men but that after the Cabinet has closed i sttiDgs he
will proceed ut Buckingham palace announce
to her Majesty the resignation Of his government.
OPINIONS OF THE ENGLISH PRESS.
Telegraph from London 10 Liverpool
The London journals OF Saturday the ID OF April,
tain the following specuations on the Derby ministerial
crisis
The London Times says was stated last night that in
very high there existed very strong feeling that
general election was the proper solution of the difficulty
The plea may be that the Parliament which TefOr IT,
self should be elected for the express p0se and that
sogreat responsibility should be thrown the constitu
ent body but thus far the House has shown itself
quite competent discuss and settle the question
any other House that might be returned general cleo
non s always an evil will be great evil now without
necessity, without reason with hardly pretence II
III stated indeed that giving apparently TO resent
ment Mtniers reolusd TO st1nd their ground til placed
q nority direct question Of confidence, and in that
70 appeal TO the people, In other Words that they
will not resign without dissolution
The London Nec says that meeting Of Lord Derby sup
porterB has been summoned for O'Clock to-day (2d
copjecurs that heriMaesty must h1N assigned
eial ground for hsitdting to accte resignation Of Aii
rs there probably few innings which the Court Ia
less disposed with favor than dissolution Of Par
Lament on any real party question.
The Nttu asks If Lord Derby prepared 70 tell his fol-
lowers that the Of bis defeat he placed his
sgpaon the hands Of her Majesty that for he
will in due time disclose, he has consented TO assume
the regns power but that TO do with dignity he must
from them that they would support him
in second attempt legislae the subject Of reform
with view 10 which certain notifications OF the existing
Cabinet will be indispensable, and finally should he be
again be prepared at once to appeal 70 the
country.
resigned Office and equally probable that il he has sug
gested dissolution TO the Queen, that his proposition has
been deemed undesirable in the present state Of affairs
The Post says, 1t will not be surprised the noble lord
makes appeal TO his party 10 continue their support TO
bim and dem sAs cyit.eal state Of Europe sufficient
The star presumes il is scarcely possible after Dsraes
Speech that the present government would undertake
another Reform BILL framed so a. TO satisfy the conditions
Of Lord John Russes resolution. Unless tho House be
contented 10 take the course Of supporting government
without any reform at ALL cannot that their retention
bers the Carlton Club said have already declared
against dissolution, and may be perhaps upon this
point that the views Of the conservative members are %
be consulted at Lord Derby's house.
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