Dayton daily empire. [volume] (Dayton [Ohio]) 1850-1865, 1859-12-13
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Congresn xxxVfth se.sIon
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WAsHiNoToN, Dec. IL
SENATE.--On motion OF Mr., Davis o
Miss, a resolution was adopted appointing
committee to wait on tho President and
inform him that the Senate is ready to re.
Ceive communications in order that he may
have an opportunity to send nominations
and executive business 10 the Senate pre-
vious TO the organization Of the House.
On motion Of Mr.. Brown, Of Miss, IL wa,
resolved TO proceed TO the election Of Chap
lain on Thursday next
Mr. lyerson, OF Ga, SAID, he had beer
misunderstood by the Constitution hswspa.
per in remark made by him the other day
about the Democratic party, when he said
he believed the Democratic party, il moi
corrupt was at least corruptible. He did
not mean TO accuse them Of completely OF
sympathy with John Brown, but simply say
that, on the question Of the territorial rights
OF the Southern people, great portion o
the Northern Democracy are unsound lie
believed, and Southern people believed, that
they had the right under the Constitution
to emigrate 10 any Of the territories with
their slave property, and when there they
have the right TO the protection of tho law
in the enjoyment Of their property, and
Congress has power to give that projection
and 1t is it's duty to do IT,
Mr.. Bigler, Of Pa, was surprised to hear
the remarks Of the Senator the other day. -
He thought he did the Democratic party al
the North great injustice, for he certainly
used strong language, and went on ut some
length to say that they wero rs rotten and
corrupt on this subject as the Republican
party. Mr.. Bigler would tell him that such
declaration had no Foundation in fact
Not only have no portion Of the Democratic
party sympathiEed with Brown in his
atrocious onslaught, upon Va, but as little
do they sympRlhize with Abolitionism. lie
was gratitied with the Senator'S disclaimer
as far as il went, but justice required him
to declare that the Northern Democracy
had labored day out Of day, in season and
out Of season, In defence Of the rights of4he
South.
Mrs lverson--I said that very thing in my
remarks but in the other case | Eeferred
to the Democratic party under the 'NAd OF
Mr.. Douglas, which has denied the rights
Of the Southern people.
Mr.. Bigler said the Senator from Ga,
could hardly realize how the expression
"rottenness' Of the Democratic party fell
on his ears. At the North, Democrats
were called 'dough-laces" because they
fstood up for the rights OF the South There
were different opinions among Democrats
with regard to the question Of territorial
rights, and he would not say they all agreed
with MIR. lyerson, but they had no sympa-
thy with the Abolition party and every
Democratic paper in the country has de-
nouneed John Browns raid His (Mr Bs)
opinion OF this question was this; We don't
claim that the Constitution establishes
slavery or prohibits it but the Constitution
most expressly declares that the States ore
perfectly equal, and provides that new
States shall come into the Union on terms
of perfect equality with the old 1t is not
denied that the territories are the property
OF the States in common, and Congress il
simply their trustee.
Mr. Pugh was glad Iyerson had made
this explanation. lie would give notice that
on some convenient occasion he should have
something TO say on the subject We have
heard just exactly enough Of this to require
something more. If the Democracy of the
Southern States hold the sentiments Of Iver-
son we want 10 know it before the meeting
of the Charleston Convention, and We intend
to know it, or at least do, 50 far as ques-
tion and answer can bring it from the rep
resentatives of the Democratic party Of the
Southern States, whether they sympathizc
with such sentiments,
| Mr.. lvcrson-l am ready 10 answer q,
any time, and will do so to your hea.ts coz
tent.
Mr.. johnson of Tenn, proceeded to dis
cuss Mr.. Mason's resolution, replying to Mr.
Trumbulls defence of the Republican plat
form. He denied that Congress possessed
any sovereign power over the Territories
its powers were merely those given by the
States, and by the Constitution. He asked
MIR, Trumbull what be would do with the
black population when it goes into the
Territories, would he let the free colored
people who emigrate there have an equal
footing with the white populationH Reduce
their theory to practice, aud see how it will
operate. Will he, under the idea that men
are created equal, and the power of the
Federal Government is sovereign in the
Territories, allow black people equal politi
cal rights with white people2 The Senator
from ILL.,, had spoken Of a saveholding aris.
tocracy, comprising only one out of sixty o
the people of this country, but this was mere
Sophistry.
j He proceeded to show that emancipation
OF the southern slaves would in fact increase
the political power Of the South, for instead
OF three fiiths Of the slaves being represent
ed politically, all would be. Notwithstand-
ing the declaration that all mea are crea
ted equal, the Northern States are unwilling
to allow blacks to reside in them.
MIR. Trumbull explained-lt was an alb
strlct truth that all men were created equal
but when we come to form governments ant
organize society, all persons do rot hav,
equal rights.
Mr.. johnson asked him If Arizona wer
colonized and filled up altogether with fre,
eolored people, would he be willing to admi
it as State upon an equal footing with til,
other States of tho conlederacy.
Mr.. Trumbull answered that he woulC
not admit any community applying to be
come one Of the members OF this confedera
cy, by the admission of which he supposed
he was endangering the peace of the Uniol
itself, In his judgment there was distinc
tlon between the white and black aces mad
by Omnipotence. He did not believe thes
! two races could live happily and pleasant
ly together, each enjoying equal rights with
out one domineering over the other There
fore, he would advise the policy of separa,
ting these two races by adopting systen
to rid the country of the black race as
becomes free, He would say that he shoul
not be prepared, under the existing state @
affairs, to admit as a sovereign State Of thi
Union community OF negroes, nor Indian
either
, Mr.. johnson thanked him for that admiss
ion, and proceeded to show whence Joh
Browns foray originated. He went on t
denounce John Brown in strong terms, as
horae hiaf and mnrderer in Kanaaa II
was surprised 30 hear the gentleman froI
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