The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-08-12

luke 70 the throne witch be has aodoa,ed. Bat whsa
inquire WIN respect to this ubj ct, must toll sac
House IL S. al hoDgn have ofc assurance OF the
fat tee conV0ced-end have good reason to DO con
vuoechai the Emperor OF TIE fsepch has Intention
a. employing French troops for tae restoration OF ihe
from all tear taa. the Emperor OF Austria deos moi
irtend-be ceriaioly has not avowed auy iatentonto
bis ooys for the purpose OF restoring these arch
dukes, and ihilk may presume from ~nAt | haze
the French would no, give his consent (ussr, hear
ewel, If that be 3d. great ai;ny at oacs asisos in
Carrying s The ne treaty into effect ;, Is doaSa
the well considered deliberations Of tho Tuscan
people They are ABOUT W chooee representatives.,
and think it mucn the best course taey eau take,
odpg 10 the COM ,uton ~hch their Grand Olkea hal
abolished and when that body or representatives. meet
they will copsioer for themsevesas in former times
copsidered for oaTsevee-whet6er they will have the
sovereign who has thus conducted himself, or wnsIhsr
trey viii choose another soveregn 20 reign ose- them
Well for Der Msjesty's government there be but
Ia such case II the repreB sni aves OF the pe0
pie Of Tuscany and must Say they are most Tranquil
and orderly populson-(hesr hear) ~ their repre,en.
aves meet and declare that Certain government shat
under which aiore they can live happily, 1t vii be impos
declaration cloud cneers) should say the same OF the
Duchy Of Modera, respec arg which there dversy OF
opinion, come believing that the duke would be received
with Accama,ion, while others maintain that he could no.
b. restored to HIS tn except force These things
upon Which, eupposng We are to go into conference at all
would be Necessary TO have the ceares understanding
question Of which bsse prslminares treat watch
now ard has been for centuries perhaps the most diff
hcut OF all Ialyramely, the temporal goveruuent
OF the Pope (aear hear Now, the declaration uaate
BY the Emperor OF the French and by tho King OF Sardinia
the ou,set of the ata produced az Bologna as in
Tuscany, change in the government Bologna, az the
House ia well aware has bsen Kept in obedience Tor the
last ter years by Autr!an garrison which ma nliaet
order il that osn and In the neighoorng PROVINCES
noble lord in the c'her House Of parlamenI mean Lord
LypdbuIs'-n of his speeches stated the nber OF
| pfIsons whom the Aust-ians had pat 10 death b.
marital Law. do not doubt thst the greater number
victec Of robbery AMI oteer serious oseneea Bat
people Ike to have their criminal justice ad-
minstered by body OF foreign troops, whole law Is
| which ought 10 be applied only IN er unusual
circumstances and in extraordinary times (aear) 1hs
consequence tha, these Austrian troops iet
Bologna the Cardinal Lega.e tmmsdat;Iy folio them
laugh) BE was allo Sed to go away 10 bis coach qiie
Quietly nobody in,erfered with him bat still hs foaad
necessay to leave the Austrian
gene. This puts me IN mind OF sometairg that
hee,d many wears ago coucerupg Roman Cardinal
vas item era,e al Boosps Every oue snows that these
Roman CARDINALS apt TO utter very refined ani witty
sayings about political affairs, in respect TO watch they
are always the wsest legislators administrators.
This cardinal whose name need not menton, was asked
the people Of Bologna were going on He saia Every
sre but two persons attached to the govern nent OF his
Holiness, myself and tho vice legate, aud as TO the
er) Now that, believe, has been the state
Of things in Bologna ever since. and accordingly
sc have seen that when man VINO Is revered ana
there with communication from the King OF Sardinia,
10000 people, is calculated, attended bis reception and
gave hp, an ovation (Iear) Hon., then, is II gorern
nt The Pope TO be made paatab,e the inhabitants of
the Lcgaton, The Emperor of the French the EN-
peror Of Austria say they will recommend to the Pope
certain Indispensable reforms but the Pope who
rights Of sovereignty has always said may be
driven out OF Rome may driven the most humb Q
village in Italy, but will maintain my authority in
the most humble village, and while am here must
govern according to my ewn judgment and the dcises Of
my conscience" How that difficulty is to be got
over really do not know. am told the Pope Is not
to Confederation or even to the assumption Of
the title Of it's President; but then must remember
he has always expressed to be his opinion that
he ought not to mmge in questions Of war, and
tba. If war were declared he could not, vicar OF
Christ place himself at the bead of warxe enterprise
confederation. These, sir some OF the difficulties
by which question ia attended Toe King OF Naples
happy to be able to s'ateathough he has not done
all that which the friends OF popular institutions could de-
ere-has made abeginning in the policy o. endeavoring
to put to the stem which prevailed under the
rule Of the late sovereign OF that country. Il s said
that among the Institutions of the late King, much worse
than the dungeon in which accused persons were placed
that sort of law-f indeed, could be called law
which resambled the rule With respect to suspected
persons which prevailed the time of the French Revou
iop under the auspices Of Reign of Terror any
thing with which We are acquainted We are Informed
that in Naples alone than $4,000 persons
der the constant surveillance of despoio aud yran-
rical poice-(hear)-and that in the provinces
there m TIA, the no
believe unable to Prscos the Learned pro
being constantly logged by thoee police, who by that
greater the power of the sovereign himself, that
Ministers of the Crown. The present King begun
put end to that system and is, believe, ns
however have been to consde extent enabled to
thwart his wishes, and the DEGREES which he has issued
have many instances been executed but with the
aid the Of his present Minister Prince
Sariano-beuer known by the name of General Filau-
tory temper the kingdom Of Naples is, believe, oecom
ing greatly improved. (aear hear) We fad ourselves,
then in this position treaty is about to be made at
Zurich confidential agent Of the French government
has been cent 10 Vienna 10 order to settle with the
Emperor of Austria what the bases Of the treaty shall
be- So far as can learn the Emperor Of the French
most anxious that that treaty should enable the Italians
to enjoy the privilege Of self government Now whether
auober whether there is to be alton or whe
there are to be two three powerful Italy
am convinced-and her Majesty g government are CON
vipced-,hat independent State or Statea in Italy
would be for the welfare Of Europe. (Cheers) cannot
sgt impossible at the present moment TO ssy-that
TINS, however, may state with the utmost conf tence
mat would not be wise on the part of her Msjesys
government, End still less wise the the House.
TO come to any permanent and absolute decision the
subject lHear 1t would never 40 for Minister of the
Cfo~n OF Great Britain to that this country, whca
taken part in all the great OF Europe since 1916
which has taken great part under Mr. Canning, in the
formation OF The Kingdom OF Greece, which taken
leading part-my noble friend who sits near me being at
the time Secretary for Foreign Aarsn the formation of
the kingdom Of Belgium on the occasion Of her separation
from the kingdom of Hoand-it would, repeat,
never do for the Minister OF such nation to say
that ne sho'd now SUDDENLY and ohoa any Nth
Europe that to Which have ALLUDED If there be auy
chance that the situation Of Italy might improved that
peace might be confirmed, dependence Of the
Italian States secured by our taking such a course
(Cheers At the same time there all those conditions
which have mentioned which must be well considered
before any such assent is given Nothing could ia nv
opinion be worse than to act in the In which nv
noble FRIEND the member for Haddngtonshre seems to
think the government Of TINS country might act-namelv
TO assist at the conferences merely see the details Of
treaty which might have been agreed TO by other sove
regDs. have told the House that only there no
such view in contempt ton, but that no sucn pro
position has ever been made to The Emperor the
French has always said, and Ithnkruy, that Italy has
been source OF dagger and n peril revolution
but that that danger could be completely avered or
revolution finally stayed unless the Powers of Europe
generally were consentng parties to settlement which
the people OF Italy would give their assent would re-
commend Itself to the minds OF ami Just men
in ell parts of the world (Hear, hear) Such being the
difficulties which imposed upon taking part in any
such conference, may be permitted TO say-notwth
standing that the right honorable gentleman opposite
(Mr Dsrae has treated the regeneration Of Itay as
question hardly worthy of serious consideration
country 30 beautiful in its physical aspect, so endowed