The independent press. (Abbeville C.H., S.C.) 1853-1860, 1859-02-25
The Slave Trade-Senators Hammond and
Wilson.

The Civil und Diplomatic Bill being up for
discussion. Mr.. Clay, of Alabama move, to
strike out the $4,000, appropriated for the
transfer to, aud support Of the Africans Of the
Echo. for one Year. and TO insert $4,000 In
the discussion Of this. the following occurred
between Senator Hammond and Senator Will
son:
MR. llAaNmHp The Senator from Massacbu
setts says that there are parts of the United
States where grand juries cannot ba found To
ihuiet persons engaged i'll the African slave
trade. L should like to know to what parts he
alludcs. "
Mh "lLsoN.-Mr. President, do not know
that said that there were pants Of this country
where grand jurics would not indiet. .nii
shero wero portions of this country where it
~ns oe'icv"d they would not 1t remains to
oe seen whether that be the case or not
want 10 say, i'll reference to the statement I
made That 1T was but day or two since hud
conversation with gentleman, who WINS n
member of the last Congress, from the Sou,harm
otates a man who i'll Congress, mlways smoke for
anu advocated the policy OF slavery. lie has
spent this winter mostly in Alabama
and he said to ne, the trher div tI,nr
he was amazed at the sentiment lie found in
the Euif Stntcs; that that sentiment approoch
ed unaurnlty IN favor Of re opening the sIuvc
trade: and frurn the Investigations hc bo,I
made, he was satisfied that organizations cxis-
ted Tor the opening of the trade. that ,,,,,.,.
was subscribed fro the business and TINT i
would bc extremely difficult, in that part of
me country, I" get grand jury to find an in
o'cI'hent, Ir To get u conviction from 4 prt;t
jury; that he was amazed ut the sentiment
eenerniiy rervalihg that part Of the country:
@ha t.int We had no conception of it here
t''nA tn"C ahEhodv who has read of the move
ment led by Mr.. Yanccv, of AluL,m. 't,,e,.
gentlemen i'll that part Of the country will
come TO THIS conclusion that there is a par,v.
"a'ny IN Tie iu!t States. extending throurh a
PortIon OF the Southern States in favor of re-
opening The slave trade; and these doctrines
na'e oeeh a""wed during the present session of
Congress-, by gentlemen Representing, that s.c
tou OF the Cnion, IN the other branch of Cnn
grsss y. w"
AiR' iiAMM"Np.-i an not at all. nor is any
t'Trton OF the South, liable for the IMPRESSIONS
"nlcn any person travelling through the Soutl,
may iofn. There is no sort Of doubt that
.." persons III The South, some of them highly
.ope.'a"'', wish to open the African slave
"nde out from what knowledge have myself
ana from what knowledge have received and
!. uu'e oeeh very Jealous in inquiry my opinion
H. th:t hinc-tenths Of the people Of the Soutl,
arc utterly "rr"sed to it; and think the NOR.
tne SUBJECT 's discussed the fewer will Lc the.
u"'.r WI" arc IN favor Of re-opeuiuy the
slave trade. will inform, the S.n,tnr frn,n
massachusetts, Of one fact of which 7 sunnns.J
he was c"Eniznnt; that during tile past week.
Hranu JurieS in Charleston and in Savannah
oot. nave found true bills against persons
sgalnst whom it was alleged that :hev had pur
"c,Pnlr,i ,, III the African slave trade,
M "iLspN.-l am glad t. hear the ,leclara
s'o,S made t,y the Senator from South Carolina
and have II" doubt they are substont;oliv rnr'
.ecI no doubta large portion Of the pcore of
~. ooulnerh States are opposed to the African
s': tiaoe' put that there is party. Young
vigorous and active, that wishes to op.n lie
o.a'e 1raue; party that wishes to extend the
~. "'o t"e tropics; n party that believes
"ot only III compulsory labor in The tropcs Int
everywhere else: party that wishes to ruvern
ta's country under that policy. and failing to
10 thnt, to establish Southern Conf,l,.racv
anu dissolve this Union there is cvijc,ca
1herc IS such party. Now, l want the Sen
a'e, want Congress, to sustain the contract
made by the President. md LET If be und.r.
stood in the North and in the Suu,h ,,v olI nor
ties thnt this country has branded the slave
traC e. that IT. can never be opened, that the
power ana influence of this nation sinll b.
used TO put down; and that we will go to
the luli extent, not only of the letter Of the
policy. '"'" '''''
inE VICE pEEo;DENr.-The question is on the
motlon OF the Senator from Alabama I, s,r;kc
:,Uut the appropriation Of $4,000: on which
the yeas anu nays have been ordered
E, mn. CLAf.--And to insert $4,000, l will
Inc question being taken by yeas and nnys,
fesuiteu-yens II, nays 40; as follows:
lEAsTMcssrs: Chesnut. Clay. Davis. ritzpa.
.rcS, hammond, lverson, Johson. of Tcnnes-
see, Mason: Reid, Thomson. of KentmnIv
Toombs and Warl-la.
-. NAis-Mrssrs Allen, Bates, Bell, BENJAMIN.
E,gIer, Bright Broderick. Cameron. Chandler
C.s'k Crittenden, Dixon Doolttle Douglas Dur.
kee fessenden. Fitch, Foot Green. Hale Uumliu
narlan' 1i' Houston, Hunter Jones. King Mallory
II:earce' foik; Pugh. Rice, Seward, Shields,
son and YuIec-iO, "0'' " -
So the amendment was rejected.
United States Senators Elect.