Daily national Democrat., 1859-08-02

ces OF such an Administration as that of
James Buchanan, never could force the citi-
zens of any free community in the United
! States into a base and trembling servitude
Law, everywhere in our country, signifies
the will OF the people, fairly and with due
form expressed. In its correctness of forms
may its effectiveness and constitutonality be.
In great part, connected in the candor and
truthtulness of its origin and popular sane
tion reposes its vital and enduring qualities
Is my reply satisfactory? Prolonged cheer
ing
MIR. CABINEss-I would like to ask you one
question more.
MIR. BRoDERICK-Proceed
Mr.. CABINEss-I do it with all due respect
MIR. BRoDERIcK-I do not doubt your sin
cerlty, and am glad to have the opportuni-
ty you are atiording me
MIR. CABINEss-Do you believe in the con
stitutionality of the Fugitive Slave Law?
NJ. BRoDERICK-I do.
Mr. CABINEss-Then do You not believe
that Congress has as much right to protect
slaves in Territory, as property, as to take
them from one State and return them to an
other?
Mr.. .BRoDERIoK-Congress certainly has the
right to protect any species of property which
Mr.. CABINEss Now, suppose that should
take slaves to Kansas and the Territorial Leg
islature should pass a law declaring that
slavery should not exist in the Territory
slaves should not be recognized as propertv
what would be my remedy? Would |
not have to ask, and would | not reasonably
ask, Congress to pass law to protect me in
my rights?
Mr.. BRoDEnIoK-Well sir, you had better
first visit the Courts of the United States.
Mr.. CABINEss-What Courts?
MIR. BRoDERlCK-You on could 90 to the Dis
trict Court, and from there to the Supreme
Court, on appeal. If the Supreme Court de.
elared that your property is not protected in
the Territories, by the laws thereof, then.
very likely, it would be the duty of Congress
TO pass law protecting that property But
what would the supreme Court do with your
property if that law was passed | think
that they would declare the law to be void
and of none effect.
Mr.. CABINEss-IIave not the Supreme
Court already decided that, under the Con-
stitution slavery existed in the Territories ,
MIR. BRoDERIcK-No. sir they have not de-
cided anything of the kind Applause I
They have decided in the Dred Scott case
that negro was not citizen of the United
States, and therefore had no standing in
Court That is precisely what they have de.
cided, and that is all the Dred Scott decision
amounted to. All this tattle about the Su-
preme Court having ruled that slavery ex-
listed in the Territories under the Constitu-
tion is a miserable humbug. Prolonged and
tumultuous cheering. Have You any more
questions After considerable pausel
Think now, well, before YOU put them.
Great cheering and laughter.
Mr.. CABINEss-Wel l will ask you one
more.
Mr. BRoDERIcK-Certainly
Mr.. CABINEss--You say that you believe
the Fugitive Slave Law is constitutional :;
therefore you would have voted for it,
Mr. BRoDERIcK-I will tell you frankly
what | would have DONE had | been in Con
gress at the time the Fugitive Slave Law was
upon its passage. | would have voted for
it because believe the people of the several
States have a right to have property. made
such by State legislation, guaranteed to them
where it exists, and that a citizen of one SOW
ereign State ought not to be deprived of his
property-so held in his section of the Union
by an escape into another State. TCries of
Right right" and cheers"
VoIcE-Go on, John Laughter
Mr. CABINEss-The people of Massachusetts
virtually annuled the Fugitive Slave Con
fusion rendering the words of the questioner
uninteligible to the Reporter.
Mr.. CABTNEss was understood to state that
Massachusetts had practically defeated the
Fugitive Slave Law by passing obnoxious
local statutes
Mr. BRoDEmcK-Why don't represent
Massachusetts; | represent the State OF Cali
fornia. Cheers and laughter.
Mr. CABrNEss-Will you, as a Senator.
vote for a law to protect slave property in
the Territories if the Supreme Court decides
that slavery exists in the Territories under
the Constitution, and that it is not duly pro-
tected there?
Mr. BRoDERIcK -"Sufficient unto the dnv
is the evil thereof" Cheers ond laughter. |
Wait until the Supreme Court has made the
decision which you anticipate, and then
VIII take very great pleascre in answering
your inquiry. Cheers.
Mr.. CABINEss-Will you vote for the nom
inee of the Charleston Convention?
Mr.. BRoDERIcK-If he is committed to the
great principles of Popular overeigntv. TTu
multuous cheers] viii that answer satisfy
you?
Mr.. CABlNEss-T am satisfied.
Mr.. BRoDERIcK left the stand amid great
applause and cheering
Mr.. MoKIBBIN followed, and spoke for two
ours.
Mr.. CoTToy Former Sheriff of Sisliyou
coun;y) was called out. He challenged ex-
Senator Berry to meet him on the stump in
tn 5 Judicial District This challenge was
greeted with applause
At - o'clock the meeting broke up.