The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-05-13

"F.s6ntion IN some form other. We should
member what Is in country ike ours "
most Of all educatcs each OF us. We are apt 70 e
that II is the common school, the church, or this
mat but more than the school, and than the chur
me noence that trains each Of as for good an ad
DApie influence running through the whole social osgAI
zAuon anu especially In the family, which appeals 70 q
ser respect hope and prospect OF success
IN poor immigrants and their children; what makes
poor eefman peasant a self governing and ndepende
we must also consider, in country like ours the par,c
lar influence OF our peculiar situation. America IL YER
different from the Ola World in the influences bri
to bear upon the poor The whole question OF reor be
In very different one from what 1t is In toe old countr
and fear that our Institutions often err in copying
closely the plans In use In the Old World. Ia England
boy IS brought into public institution and s trsiue
and reformed there the question what 70 do with him
They do not know where 10 put him. every branch
labor crowded. In this country have an mmens
advantage-of which, however, We should not be 70
proud--of room; we have room enough for
have unlimited demand for labor There is every
where demand for labor, juvenile and adult Thes
system for the reform OF the juvenile poor In addio
10 that there Is throughout the country peculiar dee
Of New raut =. oa rHran
some respects TO deny itself for the doing good
ohers We can In the United States appeal this prin
cple more than In any other country in the world AMI
this principle must be considered in any plan for the m
pIovement and reformation Of the Juvenile popul atom
The speaker thought that the vcousness of Juvenile deln
qnents was frequently less than generally I'D
bad learned from experience contrary taa
the remarkable abnormal cases Of dsprayy of Thcn VA
sometimes heard were really exceptions to the es.
neral rule, and that most juvenile deiinauents
are peculiarly susceptible to good influences. I'D
was glad to find IN America growing confidence IN
the influence Of Christianity in many cases where
il had formerly been supposed that would be Intellectual
The Christian part Of the community had begun TO believe
that there is no human being 80 sunk, so degraded
that the light Of Christianity cannos reach him.
IN se n ov Of s or Is ss true
attempted in some degree to apply these grand principles
This institution did not, as had been intmated spring
from theory at all, but came from practical men, Without
being designed beforehand, but arising from the very
wants Of the class they dealing WITH and gradually
developing itself into It's present shape. Mr. Brace spoke
at come length upon the character and the Child
ren's Aid Society He willing that character should
be Inferred from full presentation of tho testimony to
miles in the country As to any rivalry between the re-
ormatories OF this city, the gentleman who had nmated
1t, he thought, must have been incorrectly informed.
Judge MASON spoke considerable length Of the Child
rens Aid Society," He regarded occupying field not
within the province Of any other society Some few Of
s subjects had turned out badly but in this regard il
was not different from the Juvenile Asylum the House
OF Refuge By constant correspondence with those who
bad received the children OF the Cnldrens Aid Society
they we're assured that, with scarcely exception the
behavior Of the children afforded complete den0nstra-
ton OF the theory upon which that society was con-
Rev, Mr.. HALLIDAY had not so good an opinion Of the
children Of New York as others, and thought i'll
wrong TO have them placed in families in the country
without some previous training.
Mr. BROWN, Of Philadelphia, proposed 70 address him.
sarily under the first topic. There attempt
here to establish distinction, such they had not 70
cognized in their Philadelphia system, and he
would be very long time before they would be prepared
TO recognise it, Gentlemen, in endeayoring to classify
the inmates Of these various institutions, rather
the subjects OF treatment, made a distinction BE-
tween Migrants made by restitution and those
made so by actual crime He was not aware that any
they meant by the juvenile criminal: bot M
gentleman from New York Mr. Bryant and others had
taken great pains, not only in language bat BY ustr
H. x~u- - t8s
70 DC regarded as yagrans The Of the merely de
titue child seemed TO afford no difficulty The ORPHANS
Asylum and the Chdrens Aid Society provided for them
naturally, because in this in all other communitje2
there was great willingness 10 take charge OF that Glars
children. The difficulty began when they advanced r
this grade Of desttuop when they approached ne Va
grant classes. Representing the P6iadelphia Honsa
Refuge he should vote for any attemp to se IN
establish cass OF juvenile criminals, strictly speaking
ID s or any other community the subjects or refor
matory treatment for this reason that the very memen
you characterized them criminals you placed an almoe
mpassabie barrier between them and any attempts nj
form. he would BIO very reluctant to supoose tnat
the children in the New York House of Reiupe-n ct
overrun us it with worse class than they ad in Phil
depha@cood be properly and strictly treated as crim
mails. BE assumed that under no circumetaucee ougb
their Institutions TO treat under the age Of 49,
juvenile criminals II there happened to be cases d
precocious delinquency, in which offences ayans
lie and property were Of serious chsrscts
subjects Of prison discipline II they would tsks m
trouble to refer to the statistics Of their reiormatorv inst
tatons for Juveniles, they would find that mot one
snbect bad been carefully considered in the Philadenh
house Of Refuge They had the sanction Of their Supre
aspects, an educational and u penal estabishmen
that its Board OF Managers were simply excrcis;nn
~ un ae'egAtea 70 them by the State standn
proper care and protection That the theory OF The
Jaw Inc act incorporating the House Refuge clearl
proclaimed it, and the former action OF their Board
Managers had been TO that point that thav wonld ny
treat these children as the subjects Of penal nfction
rather subjects OF punishment II vas for that ress
blirati cu tnaT 1o-
OF Managers urged the Legislature 70 recognise the
house us part Of the common school education of III
STATE, NOT with the view Of disparagng the system
public education, but with the View az far A. N
possible, Of eieyating this branch Of it, which hid
this convention had gradually sunk in public estmst
80 lar that at length became quite difficult to fnd sui
BILE places TO apprentice their children. He had listsn
with great deal of interest to this discussion he M
at the outset to what they drifting and the nome
he heard this resolution read he considered they We
resolution were adopted the sense OF the Con vent
they would be infctng much serious injury M
female Sd asy 0inss 10 ms
did not propose 70 enter into the discussion Of III
question AZ any great length. He was practical ma
ana ne dsiked extremely TO spend time in theorizp
There had been numerous themes suggested here m
Of crime and juvenile delinquency and sube
reach and suppress the evil Now the Question sross
his mind, whether the system or systems adopted
datncton which had been drawn between iuyenie crir
malls and children who were only destitute vagrans
dld not admit that 1t was policy philoeep
for them to- make any distinction AZ
They spoke Of juvenile delinquents and vagrants 81
came they so9 We're not all children of circumstanc
and was 1t not certain that many of U.S. if not an Id
preeeDt, would have been Migrants or Juvenile del
quents II We had been placed under the same crcu
stances as tnese children whose they were consd
mgr They should regard these children not as crmins
nut as neral patients, and deal with them az sucb d
Of the speakers said this morning that they would
by investigation that these children were not 20 bad
they seemed TO be. he thought that any gentleman
would carefully watch their condition when thew y
committed to these institutions, and their progress wo
be satisfied Of the justice Of that view of the sube
The gentleman also remarked that no human being
SO degraded that be might not be reclaimed. He belle
IN that doctrine fully and they should act at ali lii
upon that doctrine, although he did not pretend 70
that in every case they would succeed. He regarded
system Of placing children in families as the best syst
not only in justice TO the Children but In managing
an institution as he connected with But anns
question arose, where could they find proper families
would take all the large number Of juvenile delinoue]
It was not an easy matter 10 find sufficient numhcr
proper families who would receive them An jndiyt
who would take these children for ssrdd and mercer
motives, and make them menials, could hardly be
lie