Worcester daily spy. [volume] (Worcester [Mass.]) 1850-1888, 1859-12-13
THIRTY-sIxTH CONGRESS.
SENATE


tive business previous to the organization OF
the House.
On motion of Mr.. Brown it was resolved to
proceed with the election of Chaplain on
Thursday next.
MIR. lverSon said he had been misunderstood
III remark the other day about the Demo-
cratic party. When he said he believed it if
uot corrupt, at least corruptbe, he did not
accuse it OF conflicting with John Brown, but
simply wished to say that on the question of
the territorial rights of the southern people,
great portion of the northern democracy are
uns0und This was a vital question to the
rights and interests of the south, in which he
believed large portion if not the whole Of the
northern democracy were unsound. The
southern people believed that under the con-
stitution they had right to emgrate to
any Of their territories with their slave
property, and when there, they have a
right to the protection of the law in the
enjoyment of that property, and Congress
has the right to give such protection, and it is
Its duty to do it, This is not the position OF the
northern democracy, at least, OF that portion
who follow Douglas. They deny the power
OF Congress over the subject; they deny that
Congress can exercise jurisdiction so as to
give that protection They say the power be-
longs to the people of the territories them
selves in their territorial FORM and that when
sufficient number OF people go into terrific
ry to form a political community, they have
complete power to regulate the subject of
slavery as they please, and neither Congress
nor any other tribunal has the power to inter
tere. lie contended that this position was I'M
sound. When he said the democratic party
were at least corruptible, he did not allude to
them in moral, but in political sense, think
ing the time fast coming when they would be
under the pressure Of strong and overwhelm-
ing sentiment at the North. If they had not
already become aboltionized they would be-
come so.
Mr.. Bigler was surprised to hear the remarks
of the Senator the other day. He thought he
did the democratic party of the north great i'll
justice; for he certainly used strong language,
and went on to say that they were as often
and corrupt on this subject as the Republican
party. Mr. Bigler would tell him that such a
declaration had no foundation in fact. Not only
has no portion of the democratic party sympa.
thised with Brown in his atrocious onslaught
upon Virginia, but as little do they sym6athise
with abolitionistS. He was satisfied with the
Senator's disclaimer as far as it went but JUS
tice required him to declare that the northern
democracy had labored in season and out of
season in defence Of the rights of the south.
Mr. Iverson-I said that very thing in my
remarks. But in the other case, referred to
the portion of the northern democracy under
the lead of Mr.. Douglas, which has denied the
rights of southern people.
MIR. Bigler said the senator from Georgia
could hardly realize how the expression of the
rottenness of the democratic party fell on his
ears. AT the north democrats were called
"doughtaces," because they stood up for the
rights OF the south. There We're different
opinions among democrats with regard to the
question of territorial rights, and he would not
say they would all agree with Mr.. Iverson.
But they had no sympathy with the abolition
party, and every democratic paper in the coun-
try denounced John Browns raid. He gave a
lengthy exposition of his own opinion ON ter
rtorial law, and closed by saying that in hold
ing such an opinion he was not an aboitioniSt,
nor did he seek to disturb in any way, the
rights of his southern brethren.
Mr.. b. thought he had spent an hour in de-
fence of the rights of the south where Mr..
1verson had spent one minute, and he could
not sit still under such imputations as the
Senator had hurled upon the democratic
party without telling him he had done injus-
tice. The northern democracy had stood
like a buwark between the south and the
abolitionists. Break US down at yonr peril
Mr.. Pugh was glad Mr.. Iverson had made
this explanation. AT some convenient seasoE
he should have something to say upon the sub
ject. If the democracy of the south hold the
sentiments of Mr. Iverson we want to know it
before the meeting of the Charleston conven.
ton.
Mr.. Iverson-Iam ready to answer at any
time, and will do so to your hearts content.
Mr.. johnson of Tennessee spoke at length OF
the slavery question, and of the various mat
tiers the discussion had introduced.
Mr.. Doooliitle said he made no apology or
justification of John Browns act but he would
endeavor to point out the school in which John
Brown was educated to take life on the slavery
question He read extracts from the history
of Kansas, and declared that, bad and wicked
as was this foray into Virginia, it sinks to in
significance when compared with the foray led
into Kansas by David r. Atchison. Brown
went with twenty.one men against great
state But what was this when compared
with the invasion of Kansas by almost 5000
men, when there were not 5000 voters in the
territory!
Mr. johnson replied, denouncing Brown,
reading Mrs. Doye's letter, and saying that
righteous judgment overlook Brown and his
sons in Virginia.
Mr. Davis reported that committee had
waited on the President, who had informed
them that he would send in, tomorrow, an
executive communication Adjourned
HOUSE
Mr.. Kilgore said that on consultation with
his friends, they were almost unanimous in a
wish to proceed with the ballot, in order to
bring about an organization. The adnnistra-
was almost without money and without friends.
He wanted to provide Tor the future. He
wished to tell the gentlemen on the other side
that the Republicans will not shrink from the
discharge of their duties in discussion at the
proper time. They would debate the question
which had been introduced until all parties
4fab nd NVnuld lxp hn firSt
opportunity to examine the condition ofthings,
as the north and south had been informed that
there would be dissolution of the copartner-
shin. He wished to examine how the account
stands and who has been doing wrong.
Mr.. Maynard said they had been engaged a
week, and taken only three votes for Speaker.
Much of the time had been occupied us in
Committee of the Whole on the state OF the
Union, discussing a question necessarily incl
dent to an attempt to effect an organization.
They had seen the bad consequences OF ne.
elect of the organization and disturbance COM
ing from the galleries without presiding Of
ficers. 10 preserve order under these clrcum-
stances, he offered the resolution that the old
est member of the House, by consecutive SER
vice therein, be appointed Chairman till the
House elect Speaker.
Mr.. Kilgore objected on the ground that the
resolution was not III order. several othef
gentlemen also objected.
Mr.. Maynard referred to proceedings IN
support of his resolutions, and showed that
John Quincy Adams was once appointed
Chairman till q Speaker could be elected. His
proposition was simply for the preservation OF
the order, dignity aud respect of this body
while the eyes of a great nation and the world
were on the representatives of the people.
Mr. Steward Of Maryland, said It was neces