The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-12-20

create blaze through the country that you cannot con-
sponsible for the result You have other members
OF your body who have not rendered themselves 80
YOU have the power eiec. one Of those men, and not
who has endorsed the incendiary doctrines contained
he M 40
know that In the event Of your succeeding such an
ton would be calculated TO excite to outbreaks aud bsod
shed In the South? Judge for yourselves, say, but
remember the warning you have received. The conse-
quences in the future and you persist and succeed
then the responsibility lies with you alone and believe
me that you win be called upon 70 for at dis
tant day. You call yourselves black republicans, aud
you say that you VIII mot interfere with slavery where
tiemen, in saying sos am not right, wan.
sdvoca,es the principles Of Your party, and say
that wrong am anxious on this point, a. do not
times are too threatening and momentous for that and
necessary that understand one another fully and I'M
mstakably II have msstated anything therefore am
anxious be corrected Are you determined TO exclude
slavery from all the Territories that now belong TO us or
that we may hereafter acquires
tension Of slavery, and by every legal constitutional
means that we can put forward as republicans we VII
SLAVERY .us S not our directly or
indirectly TO nure the people Of the South who now hold
slaves. suficient for the day is the evil thereof"
Mr.. SINGLKroN-Yes sir; understand you exactly
oSuicient for the day is the evil hereof But know
what Intended You to ul the suspicion of the
srevcus snA' yDS until susn time as you
can bind us hand and foot, 10 be dealt with as you
viii he not admit that they had the power by direct
gslaon to exclude slavery from every State and Terri
tory, would he not vote for such law as that
Mr.. CURns-Tha question is already settled. But am
ready to accord the same to the South that we OF
the North demand for ourselves. 1t slaves would
exclude from the Territories, not free men.
Mr.. Extraordinarily, sir. Now, believe you are
considered Of the most moderate men of that party
understand you You mean 70 say that we can 60 our
our slave properly there and keep them there.
Mr. CURTIs-That is the idea.
Mr. SisGlEToS-Exacty; that, them la the idea. Now,
let tell you imagine that the Of the South are
lost Of honor to remain in the confederacy
upon such terms as these you very much mistaken
Ii YOU imagine we will allow ourselves to be hemmed in
in this way and be permitted to expand no matter
necessary may be Tor our prosperity and progress
you are indeed very much mistaken.
MIR. CuRT-Was it not condition Of the constitution Of
1907 to exclude slavery where it did not then cxists
Mr.. SINGIEIoN-You are wrong in your premises. In
the first place. the constitution not framed SO.
MIR. CuRns-Was there not an act passed on the It'll
August 1907 excluding slavery from the only Territory in
which il then existedY
Mr.. S1NGIEToN-That s true.
Mr.. CURTIs-If right to exclude slavery them is
There frequent interruptions and explanations be-
tween Messrs Singleton Curtis and Clemens for some
Mr. STANTON, (rep) of Ohio amid the calls of his party
sit STILL and sadI desire to be regarded
commled by thing said refused to be said prior
TO the organization OF the House. protest against the
right Of any gentleman nterrogate desire simply
say that when the House is organized these subjects will
discus
sion We prepared to meet this question at the pro-
per time, but we will not meet 1t now.
Mr. SNGIEroNIs it not your purpose to repeal the Flu
gitive Slave lawY Can have no response to tha Is
there man among you who dares TO meet that question
openly and publicly Applause from the democratic
bencles charge you before the country plotting to
repeal the Fugitive Slave law and dare you to the re-
spOnse
Mr.. CuRTls-Many men look upon this law as unconst
tuonal in form and unconstitutional in practice.
Mr.. SINGIEToS-ls that your PLATFORM
Mr.. CuRnsThere is no allusion made to il in the
Mr.. SISGIEroN-You would repeal the law?
Mr. CURTIS would certainly vote for the amendment
Of the law speak the feelings Of my constituents
Mr.. SNGLEToN-This very question will later
prove the disruption Of every tie which binds together
If you suppose either that the people Of the South will be
shut out from the Territories acquired by the
blood and treasure of the country, and exc misera
BILE existence confined to our present limits, tell
you you may prepare for the dissolution or the
Union we can, butouside of 1t If we must Applause
from the democratic benches te you that the issue
come-that the Rubicon is passed-and that my sent
ments and those Of my people for immediate separa
ton from you The sooner we get away from you the
cumsances but weakens us and impars and renders
less able to cope with you when the time comes You
North against u.s. sooner or later when you have
concentrated your whole force, you will try
you like and attempt TO compel US to remain in the
Union if desired to leave it. But the time
s not yet come for that tell that the institution Of
mind upon that point We want expansion, and shall
have it, either inside Of the Union outside of IL. We
not to be confined within present limits three
millions Of men determine to 20 into the surrounding
Territory who will prevent us-who will dare to attack
uss The Of Mississippi acquired some character
for bravery in the Mexican war. The men Of South
Carolina too, proved themselves in that campaign and
we have our brave Mexican leader yet among u.s. Jeer
son Davis le you that everything we hold most sacred
be driven to this extremity, and before surrender
rights blood will be shed might say knee deep, when
from the confederacy was said that New York could
not afford to part with u.s.
Mr.. CLARK "a. L. dem.), Of N. VI said New York
could not afford to send sectional man to Congress
Mr.. SINGIEroS-Wel separation has not come YETI but
tell you ths-whenever you elect black republican,
such as Seward or Chase or any such man as those
whenever you elect Of that stamp to preside over
the desnies Of the country then may expect see
the whole South united in offering resistance to his
guration. Think you that will stand quietly and see
Seward elected President Of the United States? No. sir
Here Mr. Singleton referred to the fact that whoever the
force OF the government under his CONTROL and con-
tinued-Yes and In event Oft being your nominee he
have the whole power Of the army and Of the navy TO
coerce us. For these reasons cannot submit be-
ieve the Presidents appointments number twelve
tnousand OF those some five thousand the South
Seward be elected President, take for granted that
no gentleman in the South would hold office under him
would not do 1t myself and believe my constituents
and the people generally the same Sentiments
If there be found in the South those who would be willing
to accept office under him they would be marked and cx
PEELED from the community will not submit TO take any
part lot with the administration of The
government according to my present view. And
will permit five thousand Office holders, any number of
them to be sent down there abolition emssares for the
purpose of stealing slaves and encouraging nsurrec
ton among our negroes Do you suppose we could
submit to such state Of things as that9 No; the
south viii never submit to it, il understand her
temper and disposition in regard to the matter So
say again. that when the day arrives that black re-
publican elected President OF the United States-a man
who declares that there is "irrepressibe copflct'
going on between free labor and slave labor-and when.
ever such undertakes to force himself upon us
then you will find that the days Of the republic are num-
bered If you mean to preserve the Union there is but
one plan by which you succeed in doing
IT, recede at once from the position you have
taken, throw open the Territories to us, ac-
knowledge our right to settle there, declare to the
world that IL Territory apples for admission as slave
State you will at once and without any reservation admit
her. You must, however unpleasant 1t may be to you
give assurance to the people OF the South that when their
slaves away you will at least nterpose no obstacle
70 their recovery am no prophet the son of pro-
phet but tell you unless you do this unless you dess
from the course you pursuing the historian now
lives who will write the inevitable motto this nation
" Leusn tuit."
Mr. Krc /ron \ of Tud