The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-11-16
INTERESTING FROM CHINA.

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Mr.. w avs's Arrival . ma Rcce ptfon I'm Pc
kis-OGssaI Dimcultics with Respect 90
Hiss PxesrnSation at COurs-Tho MssAs-
ter Sta nds ON HIS Dig ity ssa Freeman
Hs will not Knox HIS Head ON thc
Ground, Ktss tho Earth or bend Hfs
Knes-Cht"eso Admiration " America An
Independence, and Conc<ssions Ma 10 by
the Cabincs-Mr. Ward Leaves the City
and Has His Treaty RnttAed-His Ar
rival in shanghse, Sc, s..
From the Overland China Mail, August 20.
The only subject Of importance by this mail the visit
Of Mr.. Ward, the American Minister, 70 Pekin ricugh
he did not the Emperor the American treaty was ra
Aed and appears the Russians are now established M
The Chinese capital where Minister would also DO bad
he not been 70 impatient and violent
Frcm The msnDer in which some people talk Of having
IN audience with the Emperor Of China might b. sup
posed that that has taken place before tina, difficulties
surround the subject and that no allowance be made
for the peculiar and dangerous position which the 60
vernment placed by departing from the rules Of ia own
etiquette The foolish practical conclusion drawn from
these that any desire the part Of the Chinese
10 escape the ful6lment Of this portion Of tho treaty, and
that any attempt their part to appear
much possible, argue want Of honesty and good
faith.
candid examination Of the accounts given this pa
per Of the visit Of Mr. Ward, the American Minister 10
Tekn, win convince any intelligent person tha regard
to visiting the Emperor the Chinese behaved throughout
in q fair and open manner In suggesting rather than
proposing that Mr. Ward should perform tho hoto In
a modified manner, they only BOUNDED him without
mi'tpg ths mseves, to what length he prepared
TO 60. III giving as their utimatum that he should
eiher bend knee, or touch the ground with
his finger, they made no excessive demand, and
based II on the Western practices Of kissing the
n
kDghthood is conferred The Chinese have NO idea OF
flenipoieDt,ary having claim u the same respect az
nd,ed tie sacred position Of the Emperor necessarily
!orbts that any individual should receive his honors In
cer MONIES and only to insist on lhose which they firmly
believed not inconsonant with European ideas, the
thntHe N ade an immense advance, and displayed de-
sire TO meet the Western Powers which stands strongly
cont with the impatient uncompromisng and cruel
conduct Of the English and French Minister'S.
1he more eDhehtencd OF the Chinese statesmen were
prepared go farther Tho Imperial Commission
proposed the very Cb,nesc like plan that Mr. Ward
The Western manner, and that then the Chamberlans
should say 10 HIM, "I}on't kneel"
Unior tunaeiy his ingenious proposal negaved by
majority Of the Council the ground that kneelng
the knee quite Ia accordance with Western IDEAS but
the mere fac, Of ms being proposed and nearly carried
far 70 prove that the Chinese not DESTROYS
fnore that clause OF tho treaties which allows
reign Ministers 10 visit the Emperor, but only
ANXIOUS carry out in the way least destructive the
tmperors dignity and TO bis authority bis SUBJ
ecis
When such the in regard to that point, how
improbable does il appear that there was any intention Of
prove ming the foreign Ministers going 10 Pekin was
objected that they should take large force up there or
ap the fsho river but there is 70 provision for their
afraid that that was only prelude 10 an attack upon their
capital
being brought bear the Chinese when necessary but
distinct IN mnti0n should always be gwen of what we
really require whenever that principle is put ine force
is most cruel and unjust not 10 be perfectly explicit
our demands en- the Chinese when determined to
enforce these d, ands and is ON that ground than
any other that Enormously object TO tho which
has latiery been pursued towards them.
MI WARD AGAIN AT SHANGHAI THE FRENCH AND
ENGLISH MINISTER'S STILL INACTIVE IN DIPLO-
MACY.
lCaItcn fsept Joy correspondence Of London POST
The sum total Of actual by this mail reeov itself
into the Intelligence received from Shanghai Of the
pLea but very small portion q The sdyanaSss ~hch
II was fondly hoped would be gained.
Inc MINISTER and DIS {, ooess 70 me number twenty
Peh-tsng, escorted TO the capital, where they
were located IN quarters a. the opposite end Of
were allowed NO communication except by let
ter. The two Imperial Commissioners, Kweilialg
the foreign enyeys at Shanghae endeavored to in
duce Mr. Ward 70 perform the 10 seu modinca-
Mn eonnusd sai % .a As Ta ~. o Se s
than he u0ud the President of the United Sto personal
BY he commissioners. and Mr. Ward and his party wese
escorted back TO their Ships of the missionary inter-
G%c oys BY ns wSy ,hs az
dian james Powell by name, who had declared himself
American In order TO escape from captivity while the
other Of the two prisoners taken on juno 20, named
Mcqueen Is still in Chinese hands, but well treated nnd
recovering from his wound
On the arrival Of the mission at Shangae the American
chants put themselves in readiness TO enjoy the
tended rights to which they imagined the treaty ad
it,ed Them but here they found themselves unexpect
edy at loss The American treaty contains few specific
stpnlaons, Mr. Reeds intricate diplomacy of last year
having been entirely devoted would secm the inser
be hoped 70 escape the appearance Of pressing TOO
hard on his Chinese friends, while he secured the |
fruits Of Lord Esins and Baron Gros' exertions |
shanehae are correct, this cute policy has failed Of
It's expected result The Chinese reported having
quietly informed the Americans that their favored ma
on clause shall take effect when those fdcored nations
have their treaties RATIFIED, but te that the Rus
sells and H,a advanced after all this profound
diplomacy beyond their English competitors the hardness
Dents, and Others do vouch for the accuracy OF
this report. which derive, however, from various
sources with the appearance Of authenticity bat should
prove true how striking comment Is afforded upon
upderhand which the late United States Envoy
and enhance the reputation his country The present
Minister have 70 believe, is very different Il
the small force at his disposal TO the British at Ia ku He
proceeding in small boat TO the frgate 70 order her
marines 70 land, when shot struck the craft and It's
took refuge the steamer Tai board which
the plucky Minister actually went under fire. with his
rough ana ready SUITE who distributed ssgars 70 all the
speed The captain Of The Tai wan, learn ACTUALLY
threatened the Minister with coercion Ii he insisted on re-
naming board while the steamer was under fre, and
Mr. Ward left the vessel, as he energetcay exclaimed
TO young e1lcer OF marines s'under prVtest,n
The allied ambassadors Of course remain at Shanghae
but with their attention de neuz directed solely 70
The coole troubles which have assumed Of late 30 grave
an aspect The investigation intoth alleged Kidnapping
at 6haghae has failed, indeed 70 elicit any tangible
evidence but fragrant have just reported
different points the coast French ships being con
ccDed in both These outrages reported 1t length In
Ibc Hong Kong newspapers, and need only DO alluded 70
here The Fame journals accuse NJ do Bourboulon Of |
pnnivanoc with this new species Of slave trade. l
At the latest dates the Chinese Commissioner who
reported his way TO ShaDghae endeavor 70 re-
,pen negotiations with the allied ENJOYS had arrived
L s doubtful whether such an envoy would be treated
With at all.
From the North China Herald, August 2ol
MEETING WITH THE IMPERIAL COMMISSIONERS.
About eleven O'Clock Mr. Ward, attended by only three
n his party went TO the public hail. where the Imperial
Cmmss,onors mctlim, surrounded BY great crowd OF
officials Of every shade Of BUTTON all dressed 10 their
easy summer costume. Kweiang looked more hale than
when a, Shanghai and said that his journey Of thirty SIX
day had been On the whole pleasant He soon began,
however, npon weightier matters, md vindcaicd tho
ate nets OF his government respect Of ts plans for