New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-04-16

| re faYea snt fore up ato l0w1 tir x Wv
| ybTa, striskns, sso, I night eveo s.y, yelhsg-"
! ruch so hist Use impossible for rs. ShO vsre hs
fri,rss "a mollfJ him in any raeasars by cords. ss
E. OIL geo ~ tsse hOsd OF bin, sai by frisrd orse
restrais Inn; asd thus Ultima els took air ost 81
the osretery; TIE demonstration that be msis might
| be ra' led one Of frantic grief.
Q Dd he 60 any yiOletce t. his person or his gar
| u.n's or anything Of Inst snrt'
Wtrss.-I cannot tsy positively a. 70 thst bss sss
rnpressop have 10 thss he did tear HE clotoes and
his hair; cannot swesr positively as 70 that tss
other facts are very irdehby imp essed on my misL
O. Il the statement Dow made by yOa ooe that WAS
soreh by he prisoner counsel or are you here u
90, s.opeice of yoluPtsry Ducicstion from yost
WItte.s-It has rot been solicited at al i. ."
,ugs,sted to nv mrd as being s piece ct teshm'ny
witch would be a benefit 10 Mr. Scses.
Mr. Carhsle-It is not necessary 10 state tha'' AZ
bod, iuputes improper motives 10 YOU
Mr. Stsnton-It is ooly 10 shov that Mr.: S'cklssvss
unconscious Of anything strange having taken place "
M BrsGy-You can prove that Mr.. Sickle did set
directly or Indirectly eppy TO you TO give tais test
Nj. CsiEsle-Nobody says he did.
Mr. Brsdy-I wish to exclude the Possio'hsy o. tsae
Mr. Carlisle-Nobody questions it.
To Mr. Oult-l cannot tell precisely what was IL.
Sicklss age at the time of that occurrence; l. wAo
1870: surpose we would have called ourselves yeasg
men then.
Mr.. Btsdy-Young America Laughter
Wi,ress-Ws were about the same age; an new
AZ yss,. Of AGE; | cannot say how ioos THU frantic
Grief lasted somewhere between five and ten miaatee.
saw no trace Of it the day folosing vas not ssssc-
s,.d with bin then. IS graduated in lSS sud se.s
10 the New-York theological Seminary do not reos'
lect whether saw Mr.. Sckles the next day did csc
him two or three dave afterwsId did not notice aay
thing extraordinary or unusual IN MS appe xancs'
miobt saw possibly, that he appeared TO be rather
ebter-beaied and apparently too much 80 under the
circumstances; Ills Eght-heartedness seemed ussN-
urs in contrast with the grief be hsd eAnoited
DAYS before; with respect to the urst msnuesy VIZ.
,kahe Il
been in the ministry for severa esrs and have never
seen ANYTHING like it, there was nothing pnticaiaf
on the second occasion to produce mrth'unsS-
To Mr. Csrlisle-The latter incident was some whers
uesr the University all traces of grief 50 lar as say
hsd Disappeared; il WAS such very casual tniag
that an net able to recall more, the time or the cx
cumstances; it was ephemeral, and Thought no oes
To Mr.. Brsdy-As TO this exhibition Of levity.
have stated that it struck unnatural 10 cootTat
with the remarkable exhibition he had maize two days
before that the isereDce on my mind vas thst no
was subject to very sudden emotonsi tins inonsy
, noss Of lesserirg the demonstrations
which he was making which were sggrsvst,ng the
gi Of the rs sDS SGGu Of some fur
tier violence to himself, and that his mind wouie
To Mr. CsriisleEMr Sickes was studying in the
English and scientific classes, and did not graduate
J.sse b. Hsw, examine by Mr.. Brsdy-KneW Mr..
Kew, the last time saw him was the morning Oh tno
DAY he Was shot. between III ana II oiock, III LNy
cite squsre; saw him come out Of the Sest gate ne
went toward Georgetown; lost sight OF hlm a. Ne
| passed. did rot notice him looking at anything.
wss with Dir. Young 8. the time but d'd not SEQ sr.
| Kew use his han tkefehefi have known MI hey hVa
Msior Hopkins, examined BY Mr.. Brady-i am
coscbnan for Col Freeman have been Tor hSe OF Sax
| wears; bis house is between Fifteenth and Sax
| teenth streets on I'll street the last time 4
| saw Mr. Key was on Sunday mormss;
he was shot about half psst opei l Was standing ~
Freemsn's gate saw Mr.. Key 10 the middle oil La
fayette square walking back and forth, two or three
times, TO The Jackson statue; that was al say on
Supcay: did no! see hun do anythir particular az
that time; | saw him on the Monday or wecnesaay
| before the shooting; be walked past me I'VE OF sh
| times: [ saw him wave his handkerchief i've or SIX
| times; Mrs Sckles came out and joined him on the
corner OF IL street and Madison place; say them -
up Fifteenth street. and lost sight OF them on the steps
| of John Gray's house. -
MIR. Csriisie-As a matter tf curiosity, is Major
| your Christian name, or title I!
| Wi.ness-My name. .
| MI Cari1le-That explains why the MAJOR drives
The Colonel carriage; you don't belong to the army
or militia.
Cross examined by Mr.. Csrlisle-It was either on
| Monday or Wedr esday that | saw them, between L
| and 9 O'Clock; Philip Lynch, the footmsn OF Col
Freeman was with me at the time; we did not folog
| the parties; we were the box of the coach whsa
we fret saw him wave his handkerchief We drove -
| Judge Wsype's; saw them while we were going back.
ard also on First street. while going to Mrs. Cuttss
Mr. Carisls-Do you know Mrs. sickies Went
| What's her size
| Witress-She is not very large very small but
of middle hight light hair, little stout; cannot say
| how tall she is.
y. How tall are you
| Witness-About five feet seven inches
| q. lie she ss tall as you!
| Wiiness-I guess not.
| Q. IL che five feet two
| Nitness-I cant say, mover measured her. EL-
| eessiye aus hter which the officers rebuked.
| Mr. CARLISLE am very glad you have mentioned
the fact and to it. There can DO no doubt OF IT,
| | suppose. ~ .
| Witness-I saw her with her veil up and distinctly
recognized her; it pleasant day, and the usual
| number of peopls were in the street; abe had on
| black dress, and dark cloak b0rdered with red and
white.
Cross.e1amned by Mr.. Ould, particularly as to his
locality when he saw the parties, when II appeared
that be was a square of a. the time hs took notice Of
| her dress.
Witness-To the best OF my opinion that lady was
Mrs. Sickles because had seen Der coming out and
| goir down Madison place with key the lady saS
IN Fifteenth street the came clothes tnsI Mrs.
| Sckles wore; this was between and O'Clock.
O. Did sou or did you not merely suspect that this
was Mrs. s., or did you known
A. To the best Of my opinion 1t was Mrs. b.
Mrs. Nancy Brown, midd Gagged lady, was next
placed on the stand AZ the oath wss admnisteredtc
her she said che did 1t hear it distinctly and wanted
! to understand it, She drew near the Clerk and took
| the oath.
Examined by Nh. Brady-I live ip Fifteenth street;
| NY husband s the Presidents gardener l knew MI
| hey; / saw him on the Wednesday before he va
| shot.
| Q. Where did you him
Witness saw him going into q house on fifteesa
| street: the next but one to where live.
| Mr.. Carlisle tiled 10 stop the answer lie suppoee
| there must DO some point OF time when his HGG
! would hear and determine the question about this
| honeA of John (rey's They Gliding along u the