The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-12-08

and provided for their safety before Il was too late
what would be their condons While Senator'S on the
other side dsclaimed sympathy for Brown thsy pro
leased not Interfere with slavery yet thsy endes
vored BY every means In their power 70 elect 10
the Speakership . man who endorsed those ssnsi-
ments. The very moment they elected John sher.
man, and he supposed they would, for he took IL
for granted they would ind traitors enough In the
Northern tmocracy, at least in the anti
Leeompsou lemocracy TO do m he had control OF the
Southern members they would every Of them walk
ont Of no ball. leave the Capitol consult thee oonstta
ens and enter again until they did 80 by their ad
vice. He would counsel his Commitments instantly 70 dis
solve all political ties with people who thus xample
upon What was the Onion worth when the rights and
equality Of the States were set at naughsP He would dis
solve this Union much upon distractions ~ upon
practical issue. he would not dissolve IL because
Of the election Of q black republican Speaker,
but when they elected q man who approved
Of these reasonable sentAnents approved OF incitng
the slaves to cut the throats " their masters thus show
ing that they approved Of h sentiments then he would
say IL WAS an insult he coula brook, and which
honorable man would
M. HA,., (rsp) as H. did y. suppose The Senator
to state what he did mot belize He wanted 70 ask
what authority he had for saying r. sherman approved
Of Helpers book and applying tho knife and torch.
Mr.. PuGB, (dem.) Of Ohio, calle the gentleman to
order The proceedings Of the Hoee could not be dis
I cussed, and u was time for the debateo stop.
Mr.. BALE had the book, and h>l consulted Il AZ
book Of reference, but had SEP any such senti
mens in IT, and had heard them disaved by those who
had read IT, He thought that upon coSultng the book
| the Senator would find he was mistakenly
Mr.. IyxRsoS said no had the NEW YoA HEAIp as au.
thority He would not refer 10 the proceedings OF the
House, but would say that upon cert$a occasion not
long since gentleman introduced resolun expressing
the fact that men who would endorse that ok
Ht to be Speaker Of the House.
Mr.. HAs thought that was not In IL II gentleman
should produce the book.
Mr.. ClmoxAS (dem), Of N. c., had seen ppy Of the
book, and justified what had been said bthe gentle
man from Georgia was fully strong as Ae Senator
had represented IT, He had in the papersbat some
gentleman named John Sherman, had stated that he
utterly disapproved Of the sentiments Of tlA book
Whether was the Sherman referredA TO or
mot, he left 10 the gentlemen to find pht. II
stated In letter by Mr. Blair that Sherman aned II
not knowing what In IT, Nearly two years sgs pre-
decessor had occasion TO speak Of this man ihd his
publication. Mr.. Bggs had then taken occasion b state
that Helper had fed from North Carolina becauseA had
been convicted Of stealing he next had An alte patton
with his colleagues in the House. and eveI body
knew the Of it. It was notorious as an fact
which had occurred in Congressional history. Hery-
body therefore would admit that this man. Sheiaan
did not know he was abolitnpist, he KNEW be
was . thief He would venture the assertion that
there was not single man who wohld mot
state he knew Of this charge he Nd never heazh
contradcted. There never was anything more preios
ferrous than for TO attempt TO escape responsibility
Of this kind M
Mr. FEKsDKs {rep), Of Me-, said II would have su4d
him much better to have taken the quesn upon the A
ginsl resolution without word Of dpase. He x}s
very certain there not republican s3ator wouldn't
cheerfury 1--WE his vote for t. No heS, he took
objected to thorough Investigation, and no elsa
where, he hded, would object. There nhf W 1ndlvA
duas in some,parts Of the country who might fear thu
result but y knew nothing Of them. NJ agreed
with one on his friends that " il md moi
been introduaN by Senator frsn the otheI
side Of the chsnber, would probask Sc been
introduced from Us side, for reason that ns had
been made throu(hout he country touch1 knaa
who belonged to t republican party. He va therefore
ANXIOUS there shou be FULL ample and thorough as well
early investigation, conHdent as he was thas such an
investigation was ma\e il must result in showing upon
how Wight foundAtAn all this foul caumny had been
heapel mp. But he, was somewhat at loss 70
imagine exactly what object was desired TO be
accomplished He understood the Senator from Virginia
70 aver that their desire was to see whether in
other parts Of the country persons have been
directly indirectly connected with IT, He should like
TO have ,one BE would be glad to who had been
engaged in giving money, counsel or advice lie was
grafed with the tone in which the honorable Senator IN
troduced the soluon and by the in which his col
league FOLLOWED II up. But things had occurred
since which lee him to doubt whether in reality there
was not somewhere design beyond all this and which
had no reerenceo the punishment Of crime, but to gain
ing political advantage over political adversaries
Mr. MAsoS-I with to say TO that Senator that the reso-
luton which Introduced had never been seen or
read by any sen,or except my colleague, and tha.
my purpose to intromce Ii was not known
Mr. FEzzSDEs had ,cdoubt that was all true, and he
imputed nothing the nator he said the tone Of the
remark INDUCED VITA reference to this matter had led
him 70 doubt whether ttsse was not desire that this
matter should 90 fowet pp mot 80 much to alaypubc
excitement as to incAase 4 and let the country tac care
Of ITSELF What occsion a there been for all this de-
nuncason Of the republican party everywhere, ar every
man connected with IL w1a occasion had the6 been
Afforded in the Senate sbanAer by ANYTHING ,Ated or
moved to justify this VIII sa denunciatson Of n n, some
Of whom had reason to bevA they ought to consid
cred lovers Of their oountr ad men who ss,ort the
constitution and laws Of the III Hs friend fH u,no,a
had seen Ht to introduce an dment rnak;n,I .,n,.r
inquiry. BE was free to sayS7 .e should porhsye in.
uoduccd H. simply because ahed to lot Gentlemen
make this investigation in theE IN vav vi hi beine
embarrassed or hampered in tho $phtest and ca
pecialy because he wished they Aou,d no4 ke sn on
portunty TO say there dispoton ON N ,kids 70 en-
barrsss them His friend had tsks, occas{ "a sav he
had no desire 70 do this but that was emf f and
proper both investigations should be nJh tocether.
How had Il been met by their oepon kss Instead
Of taking him at his word ssut,essh imputed
not only TO him but TO all Of them ~ design to-
embarrass this proceeding. He thouaI( n had some
reason to complain Not satisded wfAE gentlemen
desire to find out the public feeling the North as
to what the people Of free States design with refe
to this matter. Did the Senator ihene that the
public feeling Of the North could be ascerned by send
ing records and piing up newspapers, ad showing that
public meetings in the North expressed ympa.hy with
Brown9 Let him enter his protest. Geilcmen you,d