The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1859-04-03

Mr. SrNoiA opposed the introducton Of the rer
The bill was not such a one as the Grinding Comm
sbOuId report. He moved to lay the bill on the tai
Carried.
On motion Of Mr.. sprSoIA, the bill for the remov
Quarantine was recommitted.
Assembly.
The close of report of fridays proceedings left
Opdyke on the floor, speaking to motion to strike Cd
| the report Of the Grinding Committee the bills for
York city railroads. He proposed to read letter
be had picked up in the committee room addressed
member by an ex-senator urging the passage of the
without debate.
Mr. MILLER (rep) rose to point Of order, and obed
to the reading of the letter.
The SPEAKER ruled the point OF order we'll taken.
Mr.. OppYKE concluded by urging the rejection OF
bills
The letter which MIR. Opdyke alluded TO was addreu
passage Of the bills through the Grinding Committee,
out debate, the ground that discussion be had
fore the Special Committee To which The bill must ID
erred TO be reported complete. II also states that
every name erased from the application for their re
twenty others could have BEEN obtained had the fri
of the bill had time to procure them.
Mr.. COVER dem said that tho gentleman from
York had denounced the lobby severely and talked
gentlemen the floor as being under the influence Of
bymen and outsiders, while at the same time he had
that he opposed these bills because friend of his do
to procure the franchise himself, and wac willing
half million Of dollars for IL.
Mr.. OPDYRE-Tbe gentleman msuuderstands me-
fuence Of the lobby.
Mr.. GoyKR-Then the geu.leman's language misre
sented his meaning He would charge his COLES
(sr Opdyke) with having personal interest in that
OF half million Of dollars, but he (Mr. Gover) woald
be was just willing 10 give the franchise worthy
who could not afford TO pay half million Of dollars,
those who could afford to pay that He believed
the latter, while willing u give hair million OF de-
for the franchise now, IN order TO it, would
quently make up more than that out of the people,
Mr. LAWRENCE spoke against the bills, and against g.
away franchise for which large sum was offered
prCn rOn1ie o,adt n or
may be public necessity 10 the exclusive promotion d
dvidual or private advantage. The Of the pc
of the State 70 take private property for proiessedy
lie purposes should never be resored TO- unless the I'd
will be greatly benefited, unless full and adcq
compensation is given 10 tho individuals whose prop
| is taken.
Mr.. soHoIlTIEID (rep) spoke at length in favor of
bills urging the great necessity Of railroads for the
of the millions travelling In the city of New York
only persons that opposed them were few prope
holders and omnibus proprieors, who desired to force
people TO ride in their out of date vehicles He rep
TO the remarks Of MIR opdyke respecting lobby naaenc
by referring him to the hosts OF outsiders in the inter
OF the omnibus propretors, stage route and ID
perty holders, who were besegng members not to pa
these bills He inquired whether Mr. Opdyke had md
assertions Of corrupt influences being by promin
republicans. Did he do from his personal knowed1
OF their truth or only from TuInOrY
Mr.. 0rDYKE-i stated rumor sad, but did not char
the corrupt use OF influence by prominent republicans.
Mr. ScHotEF1ELD certainly bad understood HIM ar
wac glad TO hear this explicit denial He proceeded
describe humorously the exertons Of the lobby AGAIN.
these bills
Mr.. TurnL spoke in favor Of the bills and against ID
motion 10 strike them out Of the report urging their nd
cetsy. They were demanded for the public convsyanc(
and was almost impossible to get along much longd
without them lie regarded the talk about lobby nild
epces as idle That influence had been used in scores
bills for VIII ch ali the members had voted. IL was uss
on both sides, for and against bills He would not recd
bill that was wise In its provisions and dem inded 81
public necessity simply because person interested
1t was lobbying, as is called, in its favor he woul
not dash the brains of a child because it had tn
smallpox. He believed there lobby Influences 10
and against these bills but believed also that the railroad
were demanded on the routes named In the bills, an
Should vote Tor their retention in the report and FOR thei
final passage.
Mr.. n. A. CHnDs (dem.) spoke against the bills;
MIR. C. s. SPENCER said no bad been opposed TO the blu
because he deemed unjust 10 deprive the omnibus pr<
priotors Of their privileges which would ruin them III
he learned that the corporators IN the bills had oer
liberal and honorable compensation to the proprietor
of the stage routes and If this was done he should fav
the bills.
Mr. SMITH asked and obtained leave TO present petition
numerousy signed from the First ward in favor Of the
railroads. He stated that his constituents had INSTRUCT
him 10 vote for these bills.
Mr.. LAW Gam said the members from the countr
find difficulty in voting on questions coming from Ne'
York. The streets Of New York have been paid for
the public has the right use them for public conveysuc
as they see It, The omnibus liz institution Of the pas
and has prescrpve right TO the streets for
rs passengers II the omnibus propretors are injured
We regret IT. but we must egsatc for the public not Il
individuals. II the New York Common Council Will NJ
charter railroads for the public convenience, the Legs1
ture should. We henr much OF lobby corruption a1
fraud, had heard much oil that already IL
ravoritc way of defeating laws here. Tho public VI
think there purity here. They will think the me
bers Of the Legislature are as corrupt as the fostering
luton of cities The men who come from New York a.
and against tho bills have right 10 come and ha
right to call such men corrupt, and hold them
remote part OF the state, he had felt all 20
New York must feel-the necessity OF railroads in III
city lie declared the opposition to the bills fron
the omnibus gentlemen who opposed 10 all progreG
Mr.. ABBOT Uep) said letter had been introduced int
the House aud commented on by the gentleman frou
New York (Mr. 0pdyke) addressed To HIM by au intms
personal friend and constituent OF his Mr. Beach He q
Doupced tho in which the letter. bad been obta
ed, and denied the right OF the member use IT, bat
the time, in justice to the writer would say that
construction attempted 10 be put on the letter
titled by the facts. There was not word in il WIND
ought not TO have been written IL not one half nd
onetwepticth part so strong In its language in favor
action the bills had been the applications ana exbor
tatons addressed to him by pcrees Interested the dc
eat OF the bills, and even by Mr.. Opdyke himself v
induce him not TO report the bills.
NJ. RurHERroaD (dem said Il was no use saying any
thing against the bills for they would be passed By both
houses and signed by the Governor.
Mr. oPpykE dsclamed against insiuuatlou 10 TIKI
integrity OF Mr. Abbot In his illusions The letter. and
declared that in using them he had deemed himself en-
tirely justified.
ton; but the assertion Of his coIleague (Mr Rushcr
ford) was correct, that the bills would be passed and
signed by the Governor, and that use opoosin
them, Il was time for tho House 10 take action He d
nounced those who would yield mp the city OF New Yor
and the rights Of property holders the mercy Of the
railroad corporations because they offered compensated
10 the OMNIBUS proprieors or TO any others. He argue
against tue right 10 run railroad In the ffoat
any mans property without his consent a.
streets OF New York are held in trust
the people by the city There was no more right in
legislature 10 give away these franchises than to
away the ferries from which the CITY derives 81
of the question, and alluded TO Mr. Speucers romsf
IN an article on the roads In the Epcntng Journal
scorncd The itgislGtw Who would gu course y -