New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1859-04-12

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; hoiter Geresl the other right sasu spoke o. sn
Al iatce between the noble L'ri AL hfnS7h mi.
bright. That which sss paTely imaginary ssH hos
essy - exp ain, and the lie l:e soGi- give hin o'e'
VIXEN be sAd that If he Sss found SctSs WIZ tns CO.
be L9r Il vas because ne beiey ID the course "nCa
the uOble Lord Was tskbg VS. advantageous 70 tae
C"uLtEy sHc he hoped ha' oerea ter be snoui nave
occasion % differ n the noble Lord taa. ne Shou!d
get crec.Fo sctiIg from eODvicu0c. Ioefe were 80
cues iOus before them-tbe bill OF the GJNernnlenl
ana tre r. alton Of the noble Lord. Beyond tiem
however, lay the great question " Parliamentary re-
form which han been tess discussed Of every
subeT that lad spoken. With regard to the ou u
s.E. there slr gulAr uusCiuiiy. theA, Gear
With the exception Ct geLusmen on me
Treasury btrch, who iysere 20 be regarded
ir the light Of Or fessons witnesses on the question
there wac rot GENT, 10 the House thst nsd not
eipleseo his strong iepugns1ce 20 some OF the msia
trieci,l, Is OF the bill. A remarkable speech was de-
tyered Il ether night by rght honorable gette
u,sn Eear BIN, and although that speech was yehe-
msIty ctetred by etuteTea on the other s1e o. tne
Roase vet TUNED the bill OF the Goyerniuent com
tlet.ly inside oct. AT The same time, he vas ceI-
tsi,y aitor shed tba, gentleman OF 80 tnucn aeu'e
Les. Sc bis right honorable frecd NJ hprsemsn'
al owe alt that one who bad ted them ot the prc7'
ksa bol or of public men, should have made the sug'
e..tion a ich Lt did 70 tie Government. lCheers.l
Nor che nd lie follow the right hOnotaoe kent4
Sir. WsJole into biz exhaustion OF toe ue'ai,s Q.
the bill. Bat lie should Ike TO SIX The House, " I'd.
cid the people cut q doors look .os IN measure OF
Psrliamtftsry reform Why cot mere shuttle not
mere uustls not seuethug that was ~ leave no in
preston OF e. isAilor II tunes 20 come lacy un
ceistocd i, 20 compreheud an extension OF she man
cse 70 be class not nov enfrAhc hlel ana
secondly something that u give 10 the countTy
larger pope and more independent O. usttusncses
Now he wanted 10 know how this bi met that case
For il il did eet H. the Government nai no iis AZ
e troc Il. Why GO not every ole see whSl tue
li pruuos.d frat Of all to take away from the coun
~ .ttuenoIes 1906 of the moet pdepenien. 81
tie equity electors that the sss Independent Gloss
which re aimed ust necessarily be MADE sthl less IN
depspceIt In the ie1t place, the bill proposed, IN
tt meet insoious manner TO alter the bJutdsnis Of
borouehs II is Borough Commission was intended
to sbLt up as il were In ring ncs al The Ooroughs
Now why sboUd not the Comm ssiooers have equa
authority 10 30 to these ooronsns "uIeh arc sIu''e
In purtl sgTcutursl Districts such, Tor example AS
The Borougn Of Dro,twich which was represented oy
The First Lord Of the Admiralty Nh! snoaId thsy
bot go there and completely cut on th' agnculuta,
interest which enters 80 lsrsely icto that Borough
No il wss evident that the opJsct OF the BIZ was 10
e Ike the representation more Ciuslv,y territorial
than II va, Uresstt; and was to- 1t desirable Oh
lee. Let them ask LoId LyndDurst; let them ask
l. I'd Aberdeen. sir Robert Peel was gone, 80 tney
could rot ssk him; bar he beng gone, let them
ak the right honorable BNouet, the me hoer
for Carlisle '>r j. Graham. Had II rot been always
difficulty OF tee l. adeis OF tie Coust ryahye uOVerH-
hts that they reckored amongst their sdpp 1rteIs
sue $50 more OF ess Of ~ NIB and hsd they
not sI6bly found II Impossible 70 carry any mes
sutes that made ssary by the dem4nd OF the
Counties No, mol Well, tie night honorable gentle
men n JgaLce nur OF the NxrheqQer Was not pre-
c,s,ly Ia the Same pOsti,n. Did every one believe
that his was the sOI, of bill winch tie Chancellor oil
the Exchequtr thought the best bill Tor the country
NJ one tnoasht tnat a man OF his intellect, VINO,
wren he wac twenty five years younger thsn ne was
then uefrcy Understood the merits Of tots question,
youd if left to himself have perper.ted the id'el
m -ske. 10 oe found IN thst bill which the noble Lord
cretaIy Of State OT India had alluded to the other
oighi al designated as the mistakes OF toe bill No"
a. 4. uaA Ngf oil hos fIfata A
o. erection and one direction only He did not believe
althAt,be Chancellor OF the Exchequer bad told them
a, 10 the painful auyie.y he had bestowed upon ths
preparation ct the bill AZ all eyenfs he never seeineu
& have ouro out that by bis bill he was going to ds
fratchise ~ coo electors. Much mad been SAIL
throug bout the discussion in favor Ct the small
brruughs. Trey had BEEN described, AS u were, No
the Jewels 81 our representative system iney we're
said to take in men VINO could not get ia any Snecs
else. Yes persons found Il shelter IN tnem whom he
might descTbe deserving obects. Great laughter.
At the same time be would not deny that there was
soue yiIiuous feeling and love Ot lndep sndeGcs
about some of them. Bat even theee small borodsh
shich had been much eUlogiz-d ~ every one eH
c. OF Liusef Mr. Biz hf), even these the right hon
oIable geutieI would not let alone; tor, through
tlis systtm OF yCtir papers, taere would be con-
pele extiuciion OF freedom 10 such places. Hear,
hear No, the object Vi the bill was to make tue
counties more exclusive, ard to hant OEef the
small boroughs 10 roiteress and complete depend
eucy Why had they tnst question OI reform be-
6pe them The noble Lord tina member for
London TO more than himself Oh, oh mad
a particular liking for disturbing that great ques-
ZION: bat tie question had been Disturbed, dnd
il vould have 10 be dist lrbtd until some settle neat Of
il ,as brought about that would give considerable
), .isfacton " the people Tee Government did not
consider i Iectss8ry 10 make ony charge IN tne Dor
ough franchise. Now, by tie bill OF ~, the classes
in fece Of OF wages were e1ol1iei from tho ranchae,
al Was that satriac OIy 10 them let twenty soYen
yesrs aftci ward they prepared TO coosder the
same system Of exrlnsion. They proposed 10 eIcnds
that cats wiki small exception, VIZ, those that
I'D cone IA under The saviigs bank CLAUSE. nov,
IN the whole CITY Of Etinburgh only 900 per1ous
xould be admitted to me franchise under that clause
Vile N all Scotland il uoui admit just ZOJ. lis
YOU'D A,s.Gt this was 10 Reform bil 10 Use 81 cleo
tiou phrase, il was complete bill OF personanon
WITH 10 the uniformity OF the franchises about
which go much bad been cd ID, II ha1 10 very great
claims for him certainly but then perhaps he was not
yeIvfeuUcraic. r. Oh " aud " Hear. de thought t
would have beer ust as well not 20 have Introduced
such principle into the bill but then II would do 10
hf nm p.rlaps save by by, If the principle were
uers.versd ID /, might not be- 80 easy 10 lover toe
B,roueh FrsIchise below 10. Hear, hear, on tho
Ministerial eide, and laugh No" ne was some
WI at alarmed at the MAI DER 10 woch some non gen.
trmen pTOpofed 70 raj olth the question OF reform
Bon 9, utt men, Ike the member for the University
Of Cambridge Mr.. Walp LEI tCought they cold get
rio of The ques,iOn AnyhoT, ehd that u must 20 set
tied 'h. session. Bat why Becsufe those gentle
men kUes very well ,hs, the terms they would give
ssr. not satisfactory to the people. Hear, hear.
Perhaps then II might be necessug a. nave recourse
to 8 sOu esbst Iu'e but stall refreshing, agitation
TO settle he qqssuOu. L.aghterl Gebuemen oppo-
cite knew Wrat such ogi alton vas, Tor fifteen
years ago trey had on .oVt mp'ete o's an
izaion for purposes OF their Own. IL Hear heN, add
lsushtsr they Il i. b. depend upon II this question
cnnld no, &c settled ths present temper ofthe Hou.e
Did they not f. that the people would ye conquer for
tL-mselyes much larger political rights tuan the
pres,It House Of Commons use detf ruined 20 AFFORD
Them he would tel the Houfe that they did rot I'M
cerstaud the people especially the people of the N an
,g.I,n-.,. WV I'D n,rnTehie m-mher.