Worcester daily spy. [volume] (Worcester [Mass.]) 1850-1888, 1858-03-29
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SATURDAY, March q.
SENATE.
The Senate is not IA session.

with a resolution that it is inexpedient to
take further action in regard to the resolution
for his expulsion
Mr.. Seward OF Georgia argued in favor of
the views contained in the report. The
| House has, by the Constitution power to
| punish member for disorderly conduct and
| by vote of two-thirds may expel a member
but It never was designed that a charge should
be raised at subsequent Congress, because
there Is no power to limit or restrict the SOW
erelgnly OF the people in the choice Of their
representatives.
Mr., Craige of North Carolina. asked wheth-
er any legislative body has not the right to
protect itself against scoundrelism, and
against association with man whose reputa-
ton is UNANIMOUSLY corrupt?
Mr.. Seward replied that there was so much
diversity Of opinion as to what constitutes a
gentleman, that he should like Mr.. Cgaige to
Tx the legal standard
Mr.. Craige said the House could protect
itself when mans character is pronounced
infamous, and about whom there is no diver
sity Of opinion.
Mr.. Seward remarked that he was not here
as prosecutor or defender of Mr.. Matteson,
but was endeayoring to explain the law as he
understood it, He asked Mr. Craige to put
his finger on the record to show that Mr..
Matteson was not interested one cent in the
transactions investigated by the previous Con-
gress.
Mr. Craige said that by universal consent
Mr.. Matteson was not a lit associate for any
man.
MIR. Seward observed that the gentleman
from North Carolina was not bound to asso-
ciate with Mr.. Matteson any more than he
was. There is nothing to show that Matte
son was engaged in bribery. or was bribed.
If he had lbelled the House, he might be
tried under the criminal law.
The report Of the Commute was agreed to
by yeas 95 nays SO.
Mr.. ], Clancy Jones, from the Committee
on Ways and Means, reported bill making
appropriations for expenses incurred in col
Letting the revenue, sc. also bill modifying
the act of 1857 relative to the safe keeping of
the transfer and disbursements of the public
revenue; also the Senate bill establishing
three additional land districts in California.
Mr., Shaw of Illinois alluded to the romark
made by Mr.. Smith of Virginia, yesterday,
that the successor to Col. Richardson informed
him that the Democratic members from Hi
nois had held conference, and concluded
that the only course lett for Mr.. Douglas, to
ensure re- election to the Senate, was to OPP
pose Leeompton. Mr.. Shaw wished to say
that no such conference had been held, to his
knowledge, and certainly he had participated
in no such meeting.
Mr.. Smith endorsed that statement
Mr.. Morris of Illinois was confident that
no such conference was held or even contem-
plated by the Democratic members of the
delegation. He never had any intimation
from Mr. Douglas that he (Douglas) was IN
huenced by any such motives nor did he be-
lieve it to be the fact He had said that he
looked on the Lecompton movement as
great wrong, and yioIative of the principles of
self government, and that neither Mr.. Doug
las nor his friends would or ought to be sus-
tanned by Illinois, if they gave it their sup
port. If Mr. Smith understood more than
this, he totally misappIehended him.
Mr.. Smith reiterated that, in conversation
with Mr.. Morris, lie stated distinctly and ex
plicitly that the Illinois delegation had held a
conference, and decided on the course Mr..
Douglas should pursue, in order to secure
his election TO the Senate. If he was cor
rectly informed, Mr.. Morris related this to
Others, that a gentleman also informed him
that the delegates of Illinois, at the Cincin-
neti Convention, had recommended various
appointments to the President, but that the
recommendations were disregarded, and that
this was one of the grievances on the part of
the delegation. The gentleman from Illinois
had similar conversation with a gentleman
from Kentucky.
Mr.. Burnett rem arked that he did not feel
at liberty to repeat the conversation between
Mr.. Morris and himself, without that gentle
mans consent.
Mr.. Morris inquired where the converse
ton took place.
Mr.. Smith replied that it did not matter
where so that the main fact was stated.
Mr.. Morris said that the conversation be-
tween him and Mr.. Smith was in December
last, in presence of his morris 81 family when
he spoke as to whether some plan might not
be devised by which the Kanzas question
could be settled without serious conhic or dis
union in the Democratic party, and he had
also stated that neither Mr.. Douglas nor anv
other man who favored Lecompton could be
elected to the Senate. He recoilected further
stating that, on his arrival in Washington,
upon ascertaining that Mr.. Douglas would
take position against Lecompton, he en-
gagged in conversation with Col. Richardson
and Mr.. Douglas, when he informed the lat
ter that If he made up his mind to oppose Lee
compton, he should avail himself of the earli.
est opportunity to deliver his views, for if he
put off his speech to the 2lst of December.
motives would be impaghed and his enemies
would take advantage of it. None of the Il.
linois delegates but himself took cart. in the
conversation. AS warm personal and polit-
cal friend of Mr.. Douglas, what motive could
he have in making a statement to his detail
ment. He doubtless said to Mr.. Smith that
the delegation IN Congress, but not the dele
gates to the Cincinnati convention, complain
ed that Illinois had not been well provided for
in the distribution of Offices He had been
greatly Inexperienced.
Mr.. Burnett did not pretend to give the
precise words of the conversation he had with
Mr.. Morris, but he understood Mr.. Morris to
state distinctly that the Democratic members
from Illinois had conference with Mr.. Doug
las, and determined that he should pursue his
present course on the Kanzas question, and
that this was the ouly means by which Mr..
Douglas could sustain himself at home, and
unless he opposed Lecompton, defeat would
not only be inevitable to Mr.. Douglas, but to
his friends. In the conversation, Mr.. Morris
also spoke as to whether means could be de.
vised by which the Democrats could agree to-
gether tremendously, and said that Mr.. Doug
las did not intend to be crushed out by the
administration.
Mr.. Marshall of Illinois, reported on au.
tnorltyi Ihhb no bucH conference as that al
luded to had ever been held. The statement
was wholly untrue.
Mr.. Smith Of Virginia, said that il was true
that conversation was held by him with Mr.
Morris in presence Of his family Having no
| political secrets himself, no held il to be his
duty to his country to trace out by any proper
and legitimate means, the secret motives ard
| private purposes Of public men, who attribut-
| ed other reasons for their nnndnct