The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-05-14

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Tere you n the police soe ON he day On which M
CHrr vs. cSpuebs In under sreses 4 ives
Did Jon SEE ,es psp:, there on tAas Day (tAs ~st
opal sndavS open which The warrant was ssUsa)f
O bid Mr. Cayy ray apyth,pe and n 10, what, % AM
ceestios IN rslap 10 she hot connpA,nes Of asaa,st
b,mf 4 He tsia he - author II tne
extract pasted the sdav was taken nom the HERALD
q He tav the piece, did he noss A. twas handed 70
O b ssu iDew who extracted TIA. piece from the
HsHAIDs A. do, FIR.
Cioss .xAnpsd ~ Mr. whitiDe-Q When he SAID that,
s mo ne s ~ sn,,ssS 0o1oora ouuss
sSo nsn ded Ai~ sn,s adsv, telling BIN 70 ook u toe
psn,eS !ars; DO (r Carr. saia, III this is ,hs sans
H, End I'm the author it;n II The time he
parked that when re the ArHcIe and published
Pc oo mol intend thai should DO any reflection apon me
Q Was that all he saios A. think that Ia Sbout al.
Did Re Say that be cid not intend 10 be any fec
ooS ppon NE cpascssr OF NJ busteed, dtd ne ses
That be old po r,spd 70 charge Mr Busted with having
employed any TO pull down the nosicsss A. He may
Q. Bot old be ct say M A. He possibly might
Q. ny 70 Iecoileef A. Ireally cannot say; Ia very
bio you rot zee in the next sys herald disclaimer
that part Of his nicaron which ressrrsa 70 pull
ng down nercssS 0p,eessd "a. Sustained Excspaon
Hid he pot show at that time bill coming from the
Copsrsvsp Coupsss ofce claiming q M lsX Tor ser
wees rendered by the Cooperation Counsel 70 tho CON-
O. Do be M say that, In Consequence Of tbs commits
sion receiving that bill he had written that uscAf A.
Q. Bavs you got that hill, or copy ofns A. have
copy osn
@ wBsi became OF the original biLP A. have mover
j.; u was sent TO the ocmm' ss0o
Q. Have not all their documents and minutes been
tursso 70 your oiceS A. The inmates have; have got
everything tnAt was returned 10 me.
Q. Who old yeu get them fromS A. Ipresume got
tbs fsom Mr. Davis, several months ego.
v ON
or aftsrf A. Bsfre.
O. How long bsiOres A. II must have been some time
O. Yves NOT The original bill that rendered 70 the
csnnwroneys among those pspersf A. No, sir:
about bill IN the police officer A. There was.
O. Did NJ Cayr cay soythiog about ~ A. He stated
that he bad bill tbss was presented 70 hs Conusion
by Mr.. WHIT, s-He did Bos say In that ooOversston
thai the bill handed % the olsIkf 4. n, str.
O. Did you not tell hun that yon had the ninuess A.
O. Why did you not tell him that 700 bad obtained the
mDuiess A. He did not ask ne any q1est'oDs.
O. Were al the ospers sent 70 before tho report
vas msoe up9 A. Yes, SIR, al the papers came before
made up the report
wss the possession OF toe Oommisa,onsrsS A. Hs said
he bad IL m his o.p possessioD.
O. DID be say be bad the original or had cooy' A.
He sso he bad bill; he did say whether tbs
d Dd be 'aie out hh pcckesbook and show copy
M whiting proposed to show by this witness the form
Of the bill.
0oubsel for the prosecutor objected, and the objection
NJ Whiting then asked permission 70 pot the defendant
the ftsnt oss which tho counsel for
prosecution objected bot his honor overrued the oejec
Thos Or, sworn and examined by Mr.. Whiting,
6 You are the defendant h this prosecut,oas A. Yes
Q Dd you rec the bin that ws rendered the comms
scB om she Corpsrsion Coupsels once
OSjeeted TO Objection sustained. Exceps,ou taken.
q Vas there aly paper Furnished 70 the commission
from She Cooperation cSuIsers onicUf
Ruled out
Ddyeo see The paper spoken Of by the last witness
tse chief ein 10 the Corrorstioa Coansers oraceS
Raed oct Exception taken.
Q Rave ION sesrches for the paper purporsps 10 be
pager for cbDges for rcndercd 10 ,hg comnh
nen oy e Corporation Counsel or body escr Ruied
have you searched fer the paper spoken OF ~ the
last witness a. csiDg bill ren,ered by he Corpora ION
touDseI Tor services % the connssionths oil mai you
bsDd Mr. CsrroL SPEAK n the Ponce office? A. did
search fer II on several OCCASIONS.
q. Bave you ceen able TO nut ~ A. No, sir; and
b. We maize cihscnt and repeated search for t.
q So far ~ % know II LOST A. DO n kno VIVA.
hA. become oft; Is out Of the way, tia. "a very maui
fest
Q. Have you inquired of the clerk for ~ A have,
xr. whiting resumed the erors srrn,nauon OF Mr..
O. Yves there an sxsnipai.ou II The Police ofs,es A.
There was, come time after that
Q. Al TIE time OF the arres;f No, ctr.
Q when vas ny a think wcek days aner
q On ibas occasion dii you see Mr.. CA'r eInou any
Q Did he sbow paper Of suy kind 70 sry person m
she reom' 90 not reco''cct Of seeing any
CoerseI Tor IRE prosecutor nssrposed al objection 70
Mr.. vbnbg rep~o By saying that Mr. Carr vas geo
pepsn ~bo woud ros 90 upon that stand ana swear "
he upsel thar he vc,d prove that Mr. Carr nAa n Mr.
y fnng challenged lin W 90
partsnt OF the city OF New York ct,- OF C,rpse, 70
re corrorsnon. To Richard Bsssecd, Df 2" A. No. sur
am ,pre o,d not contsin that heading
Do not say for renoered The conmlss,op
foy nsessnere IN opening Ffty ninth sreety A. Il Is
for " Tell shat dia say rl refer {,
paper from vhicn crs~p; cent IN bji f,r tie
psps,s Of me. fcr c,pyrs p-in,sg sns asa
po, ~ q, amounting - o., iool2
O. Dio You no, put Ia the form Of bilif A. No. air.
have never dopo thai In any Instance
u Bow sas the bill mace ousf A. may have put Il
sll IN lump without specifying the iems made
said eyperses Of s.s ,,e for cafrypg on this commg
BOD On FIFTY ninth street"
O. You nsos these estimates BY xusssg A. Yes sir
Q. VIII yOu turn 70 the friy binsa Stree, iax ou-s
has dete IN The ece' No. SIR ve have got force TO
Q How many clerks have you' A. We have sever
Q Is nOs the salary Of Mr. Busted $4,000 ys.f A.
o Does he get, according 70 The ordraDos % 600 b..
'S.s for the purpose of hirisr cietk.f Y cir; he
has been se.aps siooe The lss q Janoay
BE has s.o All he oasss that ace pad IN " adverse
q. And h. does al The private business be Ca, gev
Iooss Rss.el in,erpcsins What sss hS Pr1vsse ous
~. whNss-h sas great deal 10 90 WIN n, for he
usAss sxcusss THAI he has pos clerxs epoosn W
b0siatse.
o ao- much Of bic time IL eevc.d 70 his private busi
Reef A. just - much ~ 10 necessary.
Y hos och n necessary (na siLhe,ing, sarcastic /
'oner A ocor anow shaf hls private business n
y bow much o. be time m oevosed 10 ths yusbc pusi
sessf All Of H. sben be is bct eossseo private ba,t
res.
o Can you rot tell hov much time be devoses 10 his
private ano boz mNch 70 bis pubo bossnessf A. he N
'upss SEQ 70 suend w hn puopc bsioess
bic private cusnsssl-spesa Of ySuro-n kso~eass. A.
-emstnes tners 10, STR
.. When od you ~, this till tar'd-snce the ndct 4
ssbu onf,feo because n pot necessary
Y TIE frat bill toat y,s rendered the MISSION /
'nouu,eo 70 sst7 ~, and you prcsect nfs
sssuop yen Vus The teen for copying lsoJ 10 Jour orn
'sm.f a. frs, ctr.
Y To -bon o,o you pay that si5CS A cannot ssy.
1he sbcie amount Of your tas bill 10 tnis ogsaDg
sss ~ ,6ss Stf soypoeso
Y You can't tell W vhom you paid the CO. A No