The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-02-08
THE GRAND CAMPAIGN OF 1860.
Movements Of the Republican Leaders
The Tilt in the Senate Between ". II. Seward
and John ?. Hale on the Army Bill
The Curtain Lifted a Little-A Peep Be-
hind the Scenes.
OFFICIAL REPORT Of THE DEBATE,
&c, de-, DC.


WASHINGTON, Feb. 6, 1858.
The Aymv Bill IN the Senafe-W. H. Separd De
fines his Posifion-H ~ Confident Of the Success
storl-His Imperial Ideas Of Po,cer-He Goes for
Increasing the Army-He Hishes, as our Merit
President. 10 be Prorided ,ckh Strong Police
Force TO Keep the Southern Fire-Eaters in Order
John p. Hale is 4dstonished at the Presumption
of Setcard-7hs Nesc England Republicans hare
-fnofher Candidate, &C., &c.
The most interesting, and by far the most signi-
cant affair that has yet occurred in this Congress
was the tilt in the Senate on Tuesday last between
". H. Seward and John P. Hale. on the bill for the
increase of the army. refer you to the accompa-
nying report of the Congressional Globe, and espe
cially to the passages thereof marked in italics
the text tor the Interpretation which herewith take
the liberty to give you. Furthermore, if ] do not
convince the intelligent reader that have hit upon
the true explanation of these Imperial views of
Mr.. Seward, and this brotherlyrebuke of Mr.. Hale
then l am very much out of my reckoning
is all.
First there is something peculiarly suggestive in
the gracious. lordly and patronising air in
which Mr.. Seward enters upon this discussion He
almost tells you in so many words, so plump and
plain" is he, that parties now stand his position
commanding one. He feels his oats. He talks like
man already nominated for the succession, with an
overwhelming party at his back. He has become
magnanimous in his feelings, comprehensive in his
ideas and grand in his expectations. He drops the
motley garments of factious leader and puts on the
purple mantle of Emperor In imagination he is an
emperor. Hear him. think there is no one here
who supposes that the police of this great empire
ba ta1
some regular troops" And again." This great
empire, extending now from the Atlantic coast"
DC. cannot get along in the way of an army with
out seventeen Thousand, OF eighteen thousand,
or twenty thousand men, And yet again
speaking of the Normons and the federal
government. he says it is a long time before
ANY community makes up its mind to defy an i'm
perial power like this" So confident is Mr. Seward
of his position that with the air of perfect master
he snubs Greeley and his whole crew of free love
sympathizers with the Mormons, by calling the Salt
Lake Saints "a leprous band of foreigners, concen
traed in valley in the centre of this continent"
No wonder that Mr. Senator Hale listened to this
sort Of talk from Mr. Seward with extreme pain and
disappointment and notification But had the
little joker Of New Hampshire considered for a mo-
ment that with Mr. Seward as President, standing
army of at least 10000 men will be necessary to
keep the Southern hreeaters subject to law aud or
der he would have found solid reason for Mr.. Sc
who can through hole in milestone, smelt the
rat and opposed this army project. Hales 'disap-
pointment' and modification no doubt may be
charged to the mpudence of his great anti-slavery
rival in assuming early in the day the airs and
graces Of a master. And yet poor Hale INDUCES in
a little barney. He tells Mr.. Seward that ne is
the man upon whom the eyes and the hearts of the
friends of liberty have centered and clustered that
a new star is dawning:' that he. Mr.. Hale. had
looked Fith hope 20 Mr.. Seward, as the man " to
lead ~ great hosts of freedom '' to the constm-
nation Of their hopes and their wishes" but then
Mr.. Hale proceeds earnestly to show the New York
Senator that lie is all wrong in his support Of this
Army bill. and only contributing TO encourage the
military Kansas despotism OF James Buchanan.
Mr.. Seward. with that gracious condescension
which would do honor 10 the Emperor of al the
Russias rejoins: He does not care about the party
which Mr. Hale has been clarifying not bit of it;
for saws Mr.. Seward, e" | know nothing (he's
Know Nothing) ] care nothing, (hes care no.
thing) i never did ! never shall. for party Old
Zach Taylor, in ls4s occupied that exact position
81 he was whig but not an ultra whig," and was
open so the convictions OF all men OF all parties, and
be slipped through like knife.
Upon the direct Kansas issue Mr.. Sewards mind
i easy quite easy. He says I" regard this battle
a. already fought. II is over. All the mistake is,
that the honorable Senator and others do not
know il. We are fighting for majority of free
States. There are already sixteen TO fifteen; and
whatever the administration may do, before
one year from this time shall be nineteen 20 hf
teen" True as Gospel But, continues Mr. Sc
ward. 81 think il is simply question whether the
administration shall surrender and grant freedom 20
Kansas under the constitution Of her choice, or
whether they shall break their necks in resistance TO
il. The result is precisely the same either way
And this is the cream OF the pot Mr. Seward
simply means, that Lecompton or no Lecompton, the
administration and the democracy are all broken TO
pieces: and that his first thought should be 10
cure the army required 20 hold the Southern fire.
eaters in check, when he shall become the President
or Emperor OF "this imperial power"
But while Mr.. Seward has lifted the republican
curtain al one end, Mr.. Hale has lifted II at the
other. Az the one extreme W. II. Seward Is the
imperial power in the foreground: at the other.
the shadow OF Nathaniel r. Banks. the New Eng
land candidate, fits by ON the arm Of Mr..
Hale. Mr.. Seward, il was predetermined at Phila
de'phia in 1855, should be the republican
candidate in 1850. To this end the Seward
faction never expected that Fremont would
be elected, and never intended that he should
be. Fremont was simply employed as 1.-THE
great pathfinder" or pilot fish for Seward, and
ss the election Of the former in 1856 would like
~ have defeated the latter in 1860, good care was
taken that Fremont should he kept within the mark
Just close enough to miss. IT IL as plain a. pike
staff that the October election Of Pennsylvania Of
1885, vpoa which the Presidential battle entirely de-
pendsd cunld have been easily carried by the oppo-
sition had the Seward managers at Albany, New
York and Philadelphia. SO desired II. Fremont
served his purpose in building up powerful party
for Mr.. Seward and now the "pathfnder" may re-
turn soon as he pleases TO his Rocky Mountain ex
plorations.
between Mr.. Seward and Mr.. Hale. The former
imagines himself the " cock of the walk a" for 1880
and the latter is panied and mortified at such
presumption. 20 very early in the morning. There
l. such man as N. Z. Banks in Massachusetts,, and
there il such man as John p. Hale in New Hamp-
shire. who has not yet had more than a mere
quarter stretch on the Presidential course. Finally
the Growing idea Of Mr.. Seward that the bat.
tie upon slavery is fought and won and that the
t-4ayery sentiment viii henceforth dictate the law
10 the Southern re-eaters is the Growing argument
OF bis support Of the bill for the increase Of the
army. Read the debate
INCREASE OF THE ARMY
DEBATE BETWEEN SENATOR sBwARD AND JOHN P.
Prom the Congressional Globe
IN SENATE. Feb. 2, 1883.
The senate IN Committee Of the Whole. resumed
The consideration Of the bill 10 the military esab
IEhment OF the nted States pending question being