The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-01-16

desire 10 know, whether that portion of resolution
anaed 20 nave reference TO any particular individual
Mr. coesuI-If there is any particular individual to
Shon the gentleman thinks they apply, he can apply
M Sxns-I thought the resolutions were Intended to
nave 40 appheahon, and desire 10 know TO whom they
were intended To apply.
NJ CocEuI-The gentleman make them apply to
vhomsoeyer he chooses.
Mr. lxz, OF Orange confess do not fully understand
tae nrst resolution not having heard distinctly would
ask that Il be read again
The resolution again read by the Secretary.
NJ kExrxR, of Madison-l co not concur with the gen.
teman from Amherst (Mr Coghi very fully in some OF
ne nments which be expressed upon this subject but,
sT, with spirit Of muta Cancellation between him aud
me, We can come 10 a form Of expression which can
Please both of us and meet with the appreciation OF thus
boiy unanimously am one of those who believe that
Kansas ought to be admitted under the convention as now
provided by Congress and that there not room for any
two opinions upon that subject willing 10 go with
him who goes farthes for the accomplishment of an OBJ
ec so devouty be desired by the South and the Cniou
know very well to whom the gentleman aludes in all
this bypay snd do conceive exactly Appropriate
for and intelligent body like this to have
to any covert OF indirect means IN their efforts TO cast
censure upon any do not want to mouth anything
tina; have 10 say do not hesitate TO say that stand
WIDE apart from the Governor of Virginia, his late
letter the New York democracy, any gentleman in
this body But do insist that while assert right to
my freedom Of opinion, shall allow every indiv
dual the same free and untrammelled right am not
wiling that the action of this convention of the
representatives OF the people shall reflect upon anybody
90 conceive that this meeting might express its sent
meats IN sucienty vigorous and emphatic form with
out giving offence TO anybody directly casting i'm
putaton upon any gentleman in any position he might
have assumed Again object to another feature OF the
geuteman's resolution. Where did he learn the sent
ments Of the Peep of the Amherst district regard 70
sentiments the resoutonsf Where did learn
the sentiments of my district regard what they con-
tanedf Where IN fact did learn the sentiments
OF the people OF his district in reference to matter like
this, which has sprung up so suddenly am not willing
to say what the people think upon this subject when
not know their sentiments. am willing say what
else agrees with not. think il is emnently proper
that the representatives Of the people should express
here what they believe 10 be sound enunciaon of doc
trine but would greatly prefer the eentemans resolu
tons they declined to represent what sentiments the
people OF Virginia may think fit to entertain upon this
subject. Let those representatives Of the people an
nounce their position, and let the world draw
their own inference. Let them presume, if they
viii, that the representatives constitute a fair
reflex Of the popular sentiments. / think ii q very
strange presumption, but it is one which is liable
TO be made, and let go for what is worth think
that body convened with the speed with which this has
been is rather too apt TO arrive at a snap conclusion
think we ought to reflect and deliberate gravey and
turely. We ought not TO any language which might
hereafter fail to be verified by the result think, Sir
that running toe rapidly for Convention which has
a subject sprung upon them without allowing time for
proper dehberaton to undertake to say what the sen
ments OF the people OF the commonwealth are with whom
We have not been contact with reference to the part
cuar points now before this body want to operate
with this Convention There is no gentleman here more
anxious to do So and only ask that gentlemen will give
me al opportunity TO act with them the gen.
teman who has offered the resolution disposed to do
and that he will do it, If the resolutions offered by the
Senator from Wyhe not sufficiently vigorous and lid
to meet the views of the gentleman let them be modified
l do not in what form OF expression you announce
the principle the more lucid you make il the
better. But ] think ought to avoid anything from
which an inference may be drawn derogatory 10 any
body and that we ought 10 stand in the attitude of hold
ing 70 principle with true frmness and at the time
with true dignity and moderation All ask Of the gentle
man is to give me an opportunity OF going with him. and
Mr. BEAN, senator from wesmoreland said-Mr Chair.
man, my object coDcaton so far as that consultation
not inconsistent with principle. confess sir that is
matter Of some surprise TO me- when hear the gentle
man from Madison (Mr. Kemper) ask for time
Mr.. KKTER-The gentleman mistakes me. did not
ass for time.
Mr. BxAIE-1 so understood the gentleman TO mean
when he asked where was the necessity for such speedy
action.
Mr.. KKsPER-vhe gentleman mistakes again.
Mr. BKAIE-Then, sir, have unfortunately mistaken
the position which the gentleman has assumed pre-
same therefore, that he is prepared to &C, now, and
il SO, we concur in that particular. But the gen
teman objects that the Senator from Amherst
should speak for the people when he asked did that
senator have the opportunity Of learning the sentiments
that this question has been under discussion for six
months at leastS-and think the gentleman might well
have learned the sentiments OF his people before this
time My purpose is to express the sentiments Of the
Legislature Of Virginia in respect 10 the pending question
before the Congress OF the United States touching the
constitution and the admission Of the State under
that constitutions and II rs matter OF Indifference 70
Win whom the expression OF these sentiments may come
in conflict presume that is the design Of none Of us
20 reflect upon any man. will further and say that
presume the design Of no member Of this caucus to
reflect upon the distinguished Chief Executive Of the
state But sir, while coDcede 70 him the right 10
press bis opinion freely individual, am not willing
that the expression Of his opinion should 90 forth 10
world with the mora influence Of the Chief Magistrate Of
this state without contrary expression ofopniou from the
Legislature of this state And, sir, II he has right, which
willingly cOucede "a him, 70 the expression OF his opn
IONS this question, have right To the exprcs
Of opinion upon the same question. Time is an
important element in the consideration Of thai question
The Congress Of the United States divided upon this
In that body ever, Virginia exercises great
influence and cees eut 20 the world that the sent
nens Of Virginia are the sentiments expressed in the
ter 20 which the gentleman from Madison alluded the in
6aenee o. thst WI oe mos, Powe atc 10 'ae
adopt resolution which did not express In detail my in
dvdual sentiments upon this question, rather than defer
Il until would be put IN form 70 meet my views
prefer the resolutions offered by the Senator from Am
herst those offered by the gentleman from Wythe and
prefer them sir for really conceive With all due defer
ence 70 that gentleman his resolutions expressed
in language 80 general that they mean nothing.
DO not prefer the precise phraseology in Which
gentleman from Amherst and n an opportunity shall be
presented Will offer substitute for these resolutions,
others DO and are perhaps oouched In language which
gentlemen could take exception. will read them
Resolved the sense Of the General Assembly %
Virginia That her Senators and Representatives in the
Congress Of the United States should all proper
tons 20 secure the prcn and unconditional oher than
such conditions imposed by the Constitution Of the
United States admission Of Kansas state into the
Union. under the constitution framed by the Lecompton
Resolved, Tia, any psn for the admission Of Kansas
INTO the Union which imposes conditions uDon hy people
after the acceptance by Congress Of her constitution
which ooniemplatcs resubmssion OF another consttu.
ton 70 Congress FOR approval dangerous and alarming
IN continuing the agitation OF the slavery question Ia
country utterly subversve Of the principle of the Kan
Nebraska act and comedies TO Congress right W
eroise power not granted by the constitution q the
Union
Mr. IKs, the member from Orange, sad--I do sp.
prove Of the phraseoogy Of any Of the resolution TIA,
have been read whlst concur In the objects Of the
movers Of these resolutions does not 20 that
these resolutions couched In language which this con
venon ought 70 adopt understand them designed 10
express the sentiments Of the General Assembly Of Viz
Rna II this adjourned meeting OF the General Assem-
blys had supposed. sir, that this a Of the
democratic OF the General Assembly convened
Tor the purpose Of giving expression 10 their sentiments IN
regard 10 the aifare Of Kansas apprsed oi Its
beng adjourned meeting of the General Assembly;
merely iu1ag ned that II meeting called N obtain
expression q the sentiments o. the individual members Of
the democratic party the legislature in reference 70
great aud important subject which agating the pub
liz mind I have objection 20 such expression of
sach sentiments, 20 the adoption OF language
stronger than tina, IN which the resolutions which
Ia. rad 70 cnnched hnt I do oh