New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-02-09

NJ. SEWARD NY. pres nted peii,Orriron Bishop
| Potter and other clergymen, ard large number %
New.Y merchants praying that schoornAsters msy
- snno;nted for the instruction OF seamcn.
NJ DOUGIAS Ill made several Intellectual efforts
70 take up his resolutions, offered on Ihursdsy ss.
calling for information relative e the 'ae's e,snas
49, fp,ms,ion ~ the I@compton Constitution, etc.
The VICE PRESIDENT announced that The boar
had arrived for the consideration OF the SPECIAL oef
being the unfinished business from lhufscai
Nj FESSENDEN Me-, who was cntltru 1tas
floor was willing 20 give way for the purpose q uN-
ing Mr.. Douglas resolution consiae'eo' 10 WV
ton was made. -, A.
M MASON Wa would be compelled 10 SAX The
yeas and nays motion TO postpone the speosi ~
der, with view 10 take mp the resolution bscsase
the effect Of that motion must be TO continue tne ne
cusson in different form ffom What must DC "a the
resolution Of reference. -.
Mr.. DOUGLAS I'M responded tia, Il wa. entireiy
mmaerisl TO him whether the vote be taken nrst on
the reference or upon the resolution. He thought
that am delay in the adoption OF the resolution Of
itquiry would only operate az DELAY IN the state
ment Of the Kapsas question: Tor he sho1d 1eem
hi. duty 10 obtain that Information II ne possibly
coud and TO insist upon any reasonable delay 10 ore
10 procure It. This Information was essential 20 the
proper con sideration OF the subject OUT inc senate
pre!erred 10 proceed with the discussion of the reo-
uton for reference first lie would NnhdraW tue me
ton and subsequently call Il up ~, mn.
Mr. FESSENDEN Me- was perfectly wiiHng@
give way that the Senate might pas upon the ques
fnn as 10 whether any more information was 70 ~
afforded TO Congress officially. lie was under tbs
nlpression that il not the desire OF tne maVtY
of that the RESOLUTION ooNft0'i
and the information il sought be obtained lie hsd
no idea that such thing would be allowed, vu' wac
willing that the attempt should be maus. II Le sup
rseJ srv investigation would be made in reioresce
| 20 the frauds which have been perpetrated IN the
various stages OF these Kansas dltcutie the answer
which the Senator from Missouri Mr. Green made 70
his inquiry the other day would have satishei hin
that no further information would be afforded TO tue
senate officially other than that already before the
body and therefore be saw reason why ne OF any
other Senator who deeirod 10 speak on the subject,
A.
until the Senate should have arepot from the CON-
nittee on Territories. ~, -.
Mr GREEN missouri replied 70 ,he lues..oam
tie Senator rom Maine, that be was not authorHedn
sneak for the Committee on Territories but would
say, on his own responsibility, that the question Oh
these frauds not before The eommu'eei ano 'ul
tber tb,r the Committee would undertake To carry out
any direction that the Senate might tninh proper "
give. >, r,.,. L. ,.s.,.,ooa Oh.
answer of the Senator, as he Lad repeater ~ On!
that that answer conveyed the impression TO MS NINA
that no other information would be an leo hem tnsa
what they now had Mr.. Fessenden in hs eonineu.s
outhe Presidents message. ssid u was urswh WIN
caro- ard design and was Intended a. an argumentt 70
the country TO affect their minds In reference 70 TINS
great question He thought not uulmponsnt, there
| fore, that the views OF those who DINER from
| Tie President should be expressed TO some
| extent that the country, might understand
| that while the officer highest In position
| entertained certain opinions those who are 10
less degree the n representatives. OF the people enler-
taindreient opinions, take different view OF the tac
ard have something 20 say in defense OF Their views
The Presden. has said in his Message that ~ hsntas
| was admitted under the Lecompton Constitution the
troops could be withdrawn and applied 10 the service
in Utah, and that left the inference that on retusa'
TO init Kansas the troops would stl be kept there
Was Kansas stin to be Kept under the control OF
military despotsm becausethe Territorial Government
has got into the hands of that party who nsd
heretofore been denominated rebels; aud was the
| senator from New-York willing to vote for the In
resse Of the Army for such purpcse as that
| Mr.. SEWARD IN. y thought the senator hsi
lafiya 10
reached the conclusion, from al the facts which had
come to his knowledge, that there would be such
state of things in Kansas as would obige the with
diawa Of the troops there. lie could not believe
that the Administration would be infatuated a. 10
eudeayor to keep the army in Kansas, although such
| an inference might be drawn from the Message.
| Mr.. FESSENDEN replied that the Senator from
New-fork utterly neglected the Presidents sssur.
Of what hs should DO, and he ke-seDden could
not understand upon what ground that Senator could
base his vote for increase Of the Army. But he
would return 10 the Presidents Message. In under
taking to perform his Constitutional duty Of giving
Congress Information from time 10 time VI the state
OF the Union the President should take care TO com
nuncae only absolute verify at any rate he should
not set at defiance known and admitted facts. and
make the argument all on side. ignoring every
thing on the other. lie was obliged to say that the
President had been guilty 10 his Message OF not olly
ignoring all wellknown facts, but vi stating things
which he must have known, Il he had examined the
documents, could not Be true. What excuse the
President might have fer that It was not for him
(FessepdeD) to say The tone u Message VI
Chief Magistrate Of the Union should be dgnihei aud
impartial. IL should not be denuncistory, but ye.
from the beginning TO the end Of this Mes.
sage We hear from the President dsnunciatoa
IN strong language Of what he admits TO be
majority Of the people Of Territory, because
be alleges thst, unlefs he keeps troops there
they have the power, well "a the will 10 overture
the Government. Az the same tine the President ha,
not ore word 10 say in condemnation. but rather
speaks in implied appreciation OF all that has taken
place in Kansas opposition ~ the efforts o the peo-
pie OF the Territory 10 obtain free-Stse Consttg
| lion. Such language he ltessendenl deemed
worthy Of the incumbent Of the Presidentie char.
II was little singular, too, that he had no SYM
patty with the Free-Stnte people Of Kansas
when We remember that he was born IN d
Free State, and bad seen il grow up 30 be
Of the first in rank in the Union, and also wealth
and power, simply in consequence Of the Freeststs
institutions under which the inhabitants lived bat ia
the Message not word except in denup.
citation OF those who undertaking 10 introduce the
blessings Of Free State Government In Kansas. On
the contrary he speaks exutaton when he says that
Kansas is now much Of Slave State as Georgia
South Carolina, and be 30 rejoice ia think ng
that il Is bound hence forward aud forever 10 the Car
OF Slavery. For some other he hss chosen
10 forget the land Of his birth aud treats the question
az ole Of great importance 10 the Slave states bat ~
Ct no consequence 10 the Free States. IL was 0.
consequence 10 the nine millions Of people OF the
South II not OF more consequence 70
tie seventeen millions Of people OF the North b..
the President does not think so al his eympathies
for the South and none for the North The Rre.i
dent thinks that difficulties must arise Congress
fuses 10 admit Kansas under the Lecompton Cons..,u.
ton and warns US that the people of the Slave States
would be excited and not submit tot and thesefore
he counsel. the people OF the Free states 20 ysd he
Fe,sendeDl would have expected Of the President in
| stating the danger q the excitement to WARE the
people Of the South well a. those II the North
against cisobeying the laws of the oouniry Congress
the proper tribunal to settle this Question and