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ever, hat the vote OF ten thousand against the con-
sttution on the 4th of January was spurious, for
the opponents of the constitution had not that nm
Der IN the Territory. The peoples will had been
MADE known; this constitution, so far as we know
ahythng ABOUT 1t legally, is the peonles constitu
ton, and imbodies their will.
Mr.. u. remarked that he had heretofore spoken
on the question of the power to amend the Consti
tatlon lie had not single doubt in his mind but
that the people possessed that power but they must
exercise it in legal manner The right of tba moo
pie to change the Constitution, is older than tba
Constitution itself, and cannot be conveyed away
by the Constitution. 1t springs from the right Of
| sellgovernment, which is inherent in the people
but, while he should always recognize the RIGHT Of
the people to change or amend the Constitution in
an orderly and legal way, he could not recognize
the right of mob to assemble and chanpe tba
government without going through the forms of
law: Any provision in that Constitution which NAV
| be deemed obnoxious, may be legally amended Nv
| tne people at any time, as well prior to 1854 as
after that time. Mr.. u. closed BY remarking thar
1t was unnecessary to say more nOw but he Should
reserve the right to reply to whatever objections
might be urged against the positions assumed in the
| report of the committee.
Mr.. Collamer wished to correct one statan,ent tb+
! had been made by the chairman of the Committee
! who had said that he (Mr. c. had made the asser
! ton that nineteen counties in Kansas were unren-
| resented. He had made no such statement
| Mr.. Green turned to the report and read the ex
tract TO which he had alluded; but upon further ex
annatIon ne announced that this was in the report
OF Mr. Douglas, and not in that of Mr.. Collamer
Mr. Collamer said that he had only stated in his
report that the registration imperfectly done in
almost one half of the counties in Kansas and some
OF them were popuous. That was the statement,
| and that was true. He went on to allude TO the
tlresome nature of the Kansas discussions and hon
ed the Senate would not be guided in their disnosi
ton OF the matter by the motives that infuen
ced the unjust Judge spoken of in the Bible who
avenged the poor widow lest by her continual com
ing she should weary him. 1t was said of him that
he neither feared God nor regarded man and ha
was not, therefore, an example of imitation. Mr.
o. proceeded to advert to the early history of tba
country, and the discussions which arose out of the
acquisition of new territory, as to the question of
slavery. ~
He held that the repeal of the Missouri Conpro
mise was an unfortunate measure, and had tended
In great degree to ALLEVIATE the members of onr
common contederacy, who should be governed by
feelings similar to those which animated the patri
arch of old when he said to Lot $50 tbou tn the
right hand and will go to the left, or 90 thou to
the lett hand and will go to the right let there be
no strife between my herdmen and thy herdmen
for we are brethren" He also argued that it was
a wellsettled principle that the power to reUuata
implies the power to prohibit and cited instances
where this power to regulate had been exercised in
regard to slavery He defended the emigration so
cietes, urging that their purposes were legal and
peaceful, and that the ordinary laws of emi9ration
would make Kansas free State. But in her mast
history there had been presented nothing but one
continued, protracted outrage, which had never
been examined into or corrected
Mr. Foot (nterrupting) remarked that his col
league had been sick recently and had not recovered
his strength and in his present condition he was
unable to 60 on with the argument without injury
to his health He would therefore, with his consent
move that the Senate adjourn
The motion was modified, at the request of Mr.
Mason to proceed to the consideration of executya
business and after protracted session. at quarter
before six o'clock.
The Senate adjourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
The Speaker laid before the House certain resolu
n he Of ~
lation to Indian wars: which were laid on the tahla
and ordered to be printed
The Speaker announced that he had appointed ON
the committee authorized to consider the resolution
for the expulsion of Matteson the following Gentle
men: Messrs. Seward of Georgia, Harris of Illinois
Grow of Pennsylvania, Curtis of Iowa. and BisboD
of Connecticut.
Mr. Harris, of Illinois, asked to be eycusad from,
serving; which was granted.
EXPENSES OF THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE.
The Speaker stated the business first in order 70
be the consideration of the folloWino resoIution in;
troduced Monday last, week, by Mr.. Sherman, of
ohloIthe question pending being on the motion
that the rules be suspended:
ResotCed That the Secretary of the Treasury h..
requested to inform this House whether anv mGner
has been paid out of the treasury of the United
States during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1851
for the expenses of any legislative or aleged leos
latlVe assembly IN the Territory of Kansas and if
so, under what act or provision of law and from
what fund said money has been paid
The rules were suspended, and the resolution
agreed to.
ORGANIZATION OF THE OFFICES OF THE HOUSE
Mr.. Mason, OF kentucky, from the Committee on
Accounts, reported back, without amendment the
bill fixing the number and compensation of thp
clerks messengers, pages and laborers of the House
of Representatives.
Mr.. Mason contended that the number of places
were 100 many, ana that the pay of some of them
was 700 large lie addressed the committee at
length, to show the necessity for the reform which
would be inaugurated by the PASSAGE of the hill he
fore the body and then moved that it be put on its
passage.
Mr.. Spinner of New York. moved to amend tho
bill that it should take effect on the first Monday
in December next saying he in favor of allow
ing the present employees to during the pres
ent session without being cut off and then if they
came back next year, they did so knowing the con
dition under which they accepted office
Mr.. Warren, of Arkansas said he was oppoeed
to the bill as reported from the committee He con-
tended that it was necessary to obtain efficient of
hcers to give them something like adequate sala-
ries. While they increased the pay of the higher
functonaries, they struck at those whose bread de
pended on the little mite they received from the
government for the arduous duties which they per
formed.
Mr.. Ruifin, of North Carolina addressed the
House in advocacy of the bill reported bv the com
mittee, cOncurring in the remarks of the gentleman
from Kentucky. If the bill was passed he doubted
not they would find plenty of men who would per-
form the duties efficiently. They had tried the high
salary system, and now they should try reform.
He cOntended that the rules of the House were not
enforced rigdly in regard to the admission of per-
sons upon the floor, and thought that the passage
| OF the bill would bring about a wholesome reform
in this particular.
Mr.. Jones, of Tennessee, thought it was important
to have some legislation upon the subject now under
consideration, and to fix and determine the compen-
saton OF the employees in and about the building,
Ihe Dill reported by the committee was liberal both
as to the number Of employees and their compensa-
ton, and he believed they could obtain quite as com
petent officers under it as they ever had
Mr.. Soaring, of New York. proposed substitute
for the bill, fixing the salary of the Clerk of the
House at S36OO; the salary OF the chief clerk the
journal clerk and others at 81 500 each the read
ing clerk and his assistants at 81 100 each nine as
sstant clerks, each 81 $50; chief messenger in the
Clerks office Sl,500; messenger of the library
Sl,5OO five assistant messengers. each 81 200: one
laborer at 500, and one at $500 per annum; two
aborers at $50 each per month during the session;
the Doorkeeper 81, 100; his assistant, Sl,750 five
messengers, each, 81 800; fifteen messengers,
each, Sl,2OO superintendent of the document
! room and his assistants each Si750; super
intendent of the foldng-room, sl,sO0; his
sistant, 81 ,500 four laborers; each 5000; four
at $50 per month; and twenty pages at 81
per day; the messengers of the House during the re-
to perform labor in the folding room the post
master of the House, 81, 100; his assistants S 75O
four messengers, each 81, ,5OO three mai-bovs each
5000; and two ma-boys, each $50 per month; two
clerks, each 81 $780, to continue the alphabetical in
dex of private claims; and that the Doorkeeper be
authorized to employ not to exceed Twenty-Five men
in the foldng-rOom, under the direction of the Com
mittee on Accounts, at a compensation of So so per
day; and to be allowed sufficient compensation for
sending messages and dispatches the messengers to
keep carrya and horse at 50 per dav. He moved
that the bill be referred to the Committee of the
Whole on the state of the Union.
Mr. Smith, of Illinois, said he would go as far as
any gentleman, in reducing the expenses of the
Government but wouldnot commence with reducing
the pay OF the clerks and messengers around the
hall.
Mr.. Nichols of Ohio, remarked that the bill lin
tied its effect to the employed about the House,
and reached nowhere else. If they desired to cut
down the salaries, the motion which had been made
to refer the bill to the Committee of the Whole
the state of the Union was the proper one and let
| 1t come from that Committee affecting all who
| ceive salaries from the government.