The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-02-08

trated and tremendous power, upon any state upon
any portion Of the people that he chooses do not
sire TO 60 the departments do not wish 60 the
Secretary of War the President any bod else
10 tell me what be wants with this army. Here will do
ali credit TO the dsng gentleman who has charge
# the bill the Chairman of the COMMITTEE on Military AZ
fairs Mr. Davis. He tells US Is not for Utah; Is for
ne pf essng emergency il Is for nothing of to-day II Is
not 70 be used 70 the dangers which nov environ
and then 70 be laid aside but he wants Il for perna.
mart inerax Ct the stand:ng army Of this country The
is exempli6ed by the use which is now made Of
the Territory OF Kansas. Twothousand I've hundred
troops are kept there and the honorable Senator from
New York says he would not vote for increase he
thought they would be sent there SIR II may be in
duked in quoting remark OF very illustrous and a
would say that have light to guide my path except
that OF experience and the experience Of the past year
the experience of the present moment tells me 10 what
that dangerous that most fallacious that
doctrine which has lately been preached and prac
the power to see the laws faithfully executed he
has right call out at his will the army and the navy
under the name of posse while that doctrine is pro-
claimed and acted upon II is not time for me, however
may be for Others to strengthen the bands Of
who is disposed TO for such purposes and such
authority deny here. utterly and totally and forever
that he has any such right and say that usurpa
ton, dangerous, an alarming fatal ohe-One that If it
be tolerated by this government will bvry our liberties
beyond the reach OF resurrection. No. sir cannot
stand il. There is not crowned head in Europe that
would desire greater power over the standing army Of
his realm than to make him the guardian to that the
laws faith fully executed and under that grant 10 have
power TO call in the army to do it, Sir il time for
is it time for my friends, time for the dstin
gushed Sepstor from New Yorkupon Dhon the eyes
the hearts of the friends Of lbsry hare conferred and cs
teredwhep such dangerous and fatal and damnabe doc
tribes are proclaimed and pracced upon by the Execu
tive of the United States TO vote thousand extra
to himS No, sir ii is not for however it may be
for others The honorable Senator refers to the expe
rience of two years ago. when the government
brought to a dead lock aud when he says, not
strong we now We were rot then so strong on
this floor cow but we are not 80 strong now
tprx htt, 81
OF this body with majority of two thirds against us and
stronger then in the House Of Representatives
What was the result that dead lock- why the President
said his duty TO that the laws faithfully
executed. and he issued his proclamation immediately
called Congress together, and kept them until they be-
came subse Went his purposes That the history of
that dead lock- and do not doubt the President would
like such another with the same result In the history
Of my political life have seen time when stood soil
tary and alone the representative Of the views which
entertain. | have looked with Joy, with gatness with
gratitude the increasing hosts that have rallied around
our banner in the free States until the democratic party
has been stricken down in the large majority of them
have seen these accreons made TO our ranks with graft
tude, but have also the accreons Of other mer
coming TO ranks, who might have relieved me from
position which occupied with reluctance, and that was to
be the representative Of this party when was nothing
its dreams. Bit. sir, ,ohn new star is dapnng; when
light is beamng in upon US; when one party has been
shattered that its history may be written among ths
things Of the past and when from its ruins and its wrecks
were building up new fortress to storm the battle
mcntS oil the heretofore mpregnabie uemOCrady-a snCh
time this it does t heart with pain and my mind
with fearful spprehe nsons when see upon whom
have locked nth TIE hoe that Ne might lead great hosts
10 the cOnsnmmctiCr Of their hopes and their uiShes
holting uIon question ehek IN my humble dp
Trehersion. is Fundamental, rftoI and characsriseS
the achols coatyoterSy. We come an issue on
this subject The history of the republics have lived
and gone down is full OF warning on this subject. We
a;t 70 boast Of what we are and what we have done anG
TO ook back history with EMULATION and pride
Why sir, we not yet one hundred years OLD. The
public Of Rome lived more than six hundred years.
strong conquering the world and adding kingdoms
her territory but she at last fell and her liberties per
sbed under the nsdous policy which converted her into
great military power UNTIL at last the imperial crown
set up q, auction and Knocked down TO the highest
bidder from the walls or the Pratoran camp confess
that this subject have very deep feelings: for
the party with whom act the party with whom are my
bores and INV expectations do not take ground
On this subject, firm and decided ground against
the increase Of the military power of this government
they will 60 down. and they ought 10 go down, and
humble uooe ana my hpme Services shan be found raj
Iyng the people 10 set The seal If their condemnation
1ory itL greet professions and HIGH Trrcples, bat, y
humble judgmsw, ,canting in The cgrynn9 out Of ttos,
measures ,rhch their policy and principles shouli
dictate If had supposed that should speak ON this
subject day. should have referred 10 an authority and
SHOULD have had the author by me. was reading it
long ago ancient history, in which, speaking OF the
tnal destruction of the Roman EMPIRE the author said
that whenever the people began get turbulent when
there began TO be CANCER to the agraran law being
carried or any great measure of popular liberty Indicated
the favorite peioy Of the arstooTacy 10 get up
foreign war for said the historian, L tue State
is strorg and factions weak" believe Is just exactly
II
public liberty In danger OF being INDICATED ancient
home that dc,atts this Utah now. Let me ask, n
must TO that; where is the evidence that the affairs in
tab thf catching than they when Pre-
sden Pierce appointed Brigham Young Governor Are
their senu epts any eprous their practices any
more sbom nabe now than they were then Not that
know Of have evidence that their depravy or
their principles have made progress since that time and
utterly at oss, II this Is an army to go to Utah, TO
know OF any fact which would justify send
ing army 70 Utah. when there s not, far ad-
vsed any difference in the state Of affairs from what
there was when they were basking in the sunshine Of
MIR. DAvIs-wir the Senator allow me to ask him wha,
Is the date at which President Pierce appointed Brigham
Young Governor Of Ciahf
y Nj. HAm-Hc was appointed by President Fillmore,
Mr. DAvIs-You said President Pierce.
Mr HALE-well, he continued him.
Mr. bAyis-Ah
Mr. HArE-He coptnued him In Office.
Mr. DAyIs--He did hot remove him.
Sr. HAIE-Wel, he did not remove bin. but he kept
him in just IN the way thai be kept In all hts ede
raj officers am obliged TO the senator from Mississippi
for correcting because when he makes such very
slight correction as that, II shows he Is watching me
closely and sees that am very corfec-(laugb.er)-an
need only that slight correction. The state Of affairs
there, 80 far a. AN advised, u no dferent from
what 1t was then The lion. senator from New York;
know he will not misnterpre, what I am sayng-says
that II he errs II will he safe error should ike 10
make very small addition there, and let IL read
unsafe, and sla then agree with him entirely. II
ia urssfe error. II IL an error that fear
been marching in the path Of increasing our army;
and Is avowed here this floor that
THIS OH provinces Tor a permanent increase. sec no
backward steps ! EN- like the cautious animal who,
when be reproached for not going into the sick lions
Cen to pay bis respects to The monarch said he would
have gone but, be looked around To the tracks
he ound that they were all going IN and none coming
30 j. with the increase Of the army all the
for increasing and for decreasing H. they are all
way and feel called upon - take my stand here,
sDd say NIL not rote dnohr another dollar, %
tnce1, the expresses ~ the army The honorable Senator
suggests ether thing which, II seems % me- has in
aimry about which does not often attach sugGes-
a. arguments that come from HE liIs He says
will giSe them this army, and then shall have the
power over them, because will not pay them II we
satisfied with the 10 which they pub;
refuse the pay. 30 we can but we refuse
the much easier. The argument, Is great deal
stronger for refusing the than will be for refusing
the pay after you have granted the men. going
20 thai Wholesome control the Executive
wbi:h In theory belongs 10 this body and the
body at tho other end OF the Capitol here IA
the rlaee, and II the time 10 stop. n
things twice threatening the honor
able senator thinks they In Utah LET ask you If we
have army than four times sufficient for all
the genciesf have heard said by those who pre-
tend 10 know, and who think do know, that FIVE thou
md fnep wi bo m " Won nozeihl in