New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-05-13

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STcoND GFsIrTMAS-Ths Church hss decs' ID .;
DR.. ChseveIs Church.
Mr.. WRICHT-Csa you name e.oshef'
SfooND GLsrLLNEN The CovsrsIterr.
Mr.. WHCHI-Well, what Of that Coed for them.
but the Church has net sid &C.
THIRD GrS1LIN.s-Ycu're Sighting against seif-
evident fact.
Mr. JonssTos ssked if this was allowable. II -.
they would 10 into it. ana have discussion.
Mr.. GAkRIsos suggested that Mr. Wright should
mske bis declaration and then he could be answered.
Mr.. WRI6HT-Let every single church n tie UNI
ted States meet together in one convention, and
venture tossy that you could not get one tentn o.
selfevident tru that all men are created With an
inaien able right TO liberty. Anything contsadictng
this is selfevident lie. fthe Bible teaches differ
ent doctrine it is selfevdent lie. Get the churches
gether and ask them about this; they do not accept
this az a selt-evdent truth. They are eversstngly
quoting Paul sending back Onesimus. The entire
Southern Church supported Slavery and their MIN
sters came North and most puPits here were open 10
item.
Mr.. Wright referred 70 Mr.. Tappans proposition In
the Tract Societys caucus, from the report OF IHk
TRIBUNE, to decsre Slavery sim In tie state Con
ettuton Of most Of the States liberty was declared to
be the inaenable right Of every man, and he wanted
the States to legate to carry out this provision
lie wanted them to enact law deelaripgto be kdnap-
ping the attempt to deprive man OF his liberty
That vas all. The Constitution Of the Cnitec States
AID of the States differed. Let tie State Legislatures
pass q law to cay1y out their own Constitutions. The
State judiciary would have to sit in Judgment on that
law. lie contended that the state Constitution should
be paramount Would Beecbers or Cheever's chHrcb
DO anything toward getting such law enacted!
FIFsT GEsTLEMAs Ito Mr.. Wrghtl-Do you be-
leve the Bible to BE- a lie
Mr.. Wncn1-I say no; l never uttered such a
the sefevident truth that al men are created free it
is a selfevdent lie.
First GEsTIIMAs-Do you believe that the Bible
is the Word Of God
Mr.. WRICHT-Thst is not question which can be
discussed here.
FIRST GESTLENAs--I deny that the Bible or the
clergy support Slavery. TAe resson OF the action on
not believe that Slavery a sim but that they be-
leved hst to declare this truth was not expedient.
The frst gentleman said that the Church had
not spoken of Slavery; they had not of gambling:
lie svOwed his entire belief in the Bible the Word
OF God, amid loud applause.
hr. BUITuM said that this gentleman had admitted
more than they alleged OF the Church. MIR. Wright
had only said that the Church did not oppose the sin Of
Slavery. This gentleman said that toey did not OPP
pose gambling. lie had attended revival.; he had
listened to three nights OF mockery aud tomfDoery,
aid he oidnt believe that they had anything more to
do with religion than KOssuth hollow. below.
FOURTH GENTTEmAS eaid that be had paid ten
cents to hear AnSaye discussed, not the abuse of
the Church.
Mr.. GARRIsos-If the gentleman thinks he can't
realize the value of mis- money there, let him come
upon the platform and take il ont il free speech.
Mr.. A. T. FOss sad that he had speech in him,
ard it must come out He repeated his creed, and
pitched into the Church
An OLD GENTLEMAN could not see what this had to
do with elevatiDg the slave. l don't hear anything
but TRADE against religion.
Mr.. FOSs-Ilere, these men, they tell US that the
gates Of he'll can't prevail against their religion, and
yet when nobody but Foss comes, they be scat.
MI. FOss cOLtended that the religion OF the Church
could lot be relied on to aid in the elevation of the
slave. II was the same religion which once whipped
Quaker girls naked through the streets of Boston,
because they would not subscribe to the Athauasan
Greed. What if the Methodist Church had declared
that Slavery was Elm! So did the Constitution Of
South CaIo!lns. II was said in The Christian Adro-
cate that Goreuch was al eminent Methodist Ihat
Chw.n was as bloody "a Rome. The maedicton oil
Church as inspiration. DR.. Lord of Dartmouth
College mad wrtten pamphlet upon 1t, and he
would be admitted to DR.. Cheeyer's Church.
AFIfTH GTNTLEMAN said that when DIR. John Lord
Of Buffalo preached sermon in favor OF Slavery, biz
brother, Claudius Is. Lord, declared that he
would not admit him to his pulpit. [" GoOdp1 DIR.
Cheever had too big a soul to be cramPed up in
this sectsrian church al his life. But he stood
now side by side with DIR. Spring. Within two years
Henry Ward Btecher had Ofiicisted at an ordination
with Souh-Sde Adams. The North aud South were
knit together like blue and white mitten. Hadn't
he been 10 these revivas until the manhood nearly
worn Cut of him He had been convalescing for
ten years, but it would take grest deal longer to re:
cover it all. He would close with fact. de had
never known a single person to be turned out OF a
church for being a STAKEHOLDER, and he had known
hundreds be turned out because they against
Slavery.
The fifth gentleman said that he had been
Presbyterian minister in IOmpkins County, and an
occasion of revival he had invited agents of this
tiSlaveIy Society to speak in his church on Anti
Slavery, and he could not perceive that it injured the
revival In the least. He contended that Church mem,
bers good as the average OF people and moth
irg could be gained by dissolving it. Why waste
in fol mat usf utipuyy a.
pot make men less Anti-SaveIy! The true conuec-
tons between the North and the South were social
and commercial and nothing would be gained for Anti
Slavery by the dissolution Of political religious ties
The Bible was prohibited 10 slaves because 1t taught
tina. God once emancpated whole nation; It was
Anti. Slavery.
Mr.. GARiIsoN was very glad that the last friend
had been delivered from the bonds OF ecclesastcism,
and he hoped he would be freed from the bonds
of sectsrisnsn. He had attempted to excuse the
Church. This nation had been shaken as by mighty
earthquake because tie Anti-Savery Society had as
serted the inherent einfulness OF saveh0lding. lie
might have spoken of Slavery as sin in the abstract;
there would nave been no excitement. But to talk
about gradually aboishng sin, gradually ceasing TO
serve the devil and learning TO serve God, that WA
logic.
His great crime had been that he had insisted on
striking out that word gradually" and inserting the
word Immediate" Neither Beecher nor Cheever
had ever said that Slavery was sin per Sc; they
sad that church was the Church of Jesus Christ,
which was q Pro-Slavery Church. The nation multi
piled religious converts as il multiplied slaves. This
was not the religion as he understood it, of Jesus
Christ who came break every yoke and lot the OPP
pressed 90 free. lie who left the slave in his chains
Tor moment was no Abotiorist and, in his Judgment
was no Christian. What meaut these placards IN the
revival meetings. NO controverted points brought In
here tmeant that Anti Slavery should not enter.
MIR. Garrison concluded by concise reiteration OF the
position OF the Socety-a synopsis Ct the three COL
umns If resolutions
A SIxTm GENTLnNAs thought that Mr.. Garrison
had taken up too much time. He had wanted to reply
CD the revival question.
The Rev. Mr. JoHNsToS said few words snd the
Convention adjourned sine die.