The Washington union., 1858-03-12
HOUSE OF REpREsENrArIyEs.

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Also joint resolutions in relation to the Texas indians;
which were referred the Committee on Indian Affairs
and ordered to DO printed
TuE ARMY BILL tttr ftf
The House then resumed the consideration of the bill
provide for the organization Of regiment mounted
volunteers the defence Of the frontier Texas and
authorize the President 10 call into the service Of the
United States additional regiments OF volunteers
Mr.. STANTON of Ohio, said he preferred the bill ne
ported by Mr. QunaAS TO that reported by Mr. FAUX
NnR from the minority of the Committee Military AZ
fairs because il there existed any necessity for any in
of the army, it could only arise of the tenn
pory disturbances in the Territory of Utah. which il
reasonable TO believe would be disposed of in single
campaign Regular troops would and WILL general
rule be enlisted in the cities and large towns and would
belong to that class Of population which go into the
a refuge from starvation They had no knowledge OF
frontier life warfare and therefore wholly unfit
such service On the other hand if they called
volunteers they would he composed OF residing up
the borders, and acquainted with border life and
warfare and therefore the better qualified for the service
He had another vastly stronger which induced
him TO prefer the report OF the chairman The
proposition Of the chairman to raise a volun-
teer force for specific servicefor suppressing dis
turbances in Utah. preserving the borders of the north
western frontier from Indian depreations and protecting
the emgrant trains. They could be used for no other
service If regular troops called into the service
they be ocercd by the President of the United
States and If his information correct hundred
and eighty five commissioned officers would be called into
The II nSS regiments sh0ulu nc f1e Was
opposed all times amy Of tho executive pat
roage and he especially opposed at this time, for
the that he did not believe that that patronage
would be properly exercised. And he opposed to
increase either temporary permanent OF regulars
or volunteers, because he did not believe the
exigencies of the service demanded it. He entertained
doubt that ii Kansas admitted under the Iecomp
ton constitution and the people against it, an in
surection would be declared and this increase of the
army wanted mainly for the purpose of putting IL
down He saw difference between the service of the
marines in the city of Washington which resulted in
the murder of some ten dozen noiensive citizens,
and the outrages inflicted upon the people of Kansas
Mr.. COBB of Alabama, inquired whether the republicans
the last Congress did not denounce President Pierce
for not sending troops to Kansas.
Mr.. STANTON replied that the last Congress did in
ss that necessary TO send troops there to protect
the people from INVASION but asked the President
send the regular army there to protect the people of
Kansas from themselves. He believed that it the
duty of the President the army protect every
portion of the Union from invasion. He Contended that
the militia should be used in queng the disturbances
in Utah and argued that ii the House did author
ize addition to the regular array the President could
not them under the constitution.
Mr.. PENDLEION, of Ohio, obtained the floor
The morning hour having expired,
QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE SELECT COMMITTEE OK KAN
Mr. HARRIS, of Illinois, said he wished to submit
question of privilege
Several MEMBERS 'What is it?''
tion OF the special committee appointed by order of the
House the sth of February last Myself and six other
members OF that committee
Mr.. LETCiIER, of Virginia Is that question of phi
The SPEAKER The Chair will hear the statement of
the gentleman from Illinois, in order that he may at
least ascertain whether not question Of privilege
involved
Mr. HARRIS Myself and six who acted with me-
comprising six in all members of that committee
feel it due to themselves and the House. under whose
order they were appointed to present facts to the House
sustaining their views that the committee has failed to
execute the order of tho House.
The SPEAKER The Chair is of opinion it docs not
involve question of privilege.
Mr. HARRIS have not presented the question
The SPEAKER. The Chair decides that no question
of privilege can be involved
MIR. HARRIS If the acts turn out as l state them,
does it not contain question of privilege
The SPEAKER The Chair decides that report of
facts cmanate from the minority of a committee
Mr.. HARRIS / wish to state the facts that there
may be no msappehension my part the part of
the House
Mr.. STEVENSON, of Kentucky. / rise to point of
order The Chair has already decided the question: and
the remarks of the gentleman not in order
MIR. HARRIS The point ! wish to present is this
That the COMMITTEES is not disthagld aud has not
cutcd the order Of the House,, and that claim to be
question Of privilege
The SPEAKER, The Chair overrues the point upon
two grounds IN the first instance, there be such
thing known under parliamentary law and the practice
OF the House, report
tee 1t has been usual in the practice of this and other
bodies, to receive the yicss of the minority Of commit
tee but it is matter Of courtesy and not of right
Mr. HARRIS 1t is not report but statement of
fact upon which are based the privileges of the House
The SPEAKER, The Chair is OF opinion that in that
spect the gentleman cannot present question OF pry
ege, report has been presented to the House and
the Chais ha5 10 gesps of knowing what has been the
action Of the committee.
Mr. HARRIS Iappca from that decision, and inquire
whether it not the practice OF the body to submit to
the House whether not it is question of privilege
The SPEAKER. Not always. The Chair has
doubt upon the present question: and decides ii for him
sell. The gentleman has the right TO appeal
Mr. HARRIS with spirit | appeal, and ask for the
yeas and nays.
Mr. STEPHENS, OF Georgia move thaJ the appeal
be laid on the table. 'f' q
Mr. WAsHBuRN, of Maine, attempted to speak
Mr. CLINGMAN Of North Carolina. / object to de-
bate.
Mr. WASHBuRN / ask the Chair whether IL is not
the privilege of the House that its committees shall obey
its orders
The SPEAKER It is. Ifa committee has not obey
to recommt with fuither Instructions discharge the
committee
Mr. WASHBURN, Cannot the minority bring their
report before the House in shapel
The SPEAKER. The Chair decides that it cannot,
and the gentleman kngws IL himself that according to
parliamentary law, report can emanae from com
mittee except through the majority 1t is the practice
to receive the views of the minority, but that is done by
courtesy and not as matter of right.
Mr.. CLINGMAN, of North Carolina. / ask whether
it is in order at this time for the majority report
The SPEAKER. The majority cannot report at this
time
Mr. WINSIDW of Narij C,r,l,na I r,n1,a that