The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-06-02

liberal than Of late. At kaneles prices were nrm u
Orleans, Arras Charres, Djon and Nancy there
advance varying from about Is. 70 D. per quarter Ex
ports important scale have commenced in France
fer Span where, however, the decree authorizing the i'm
pOr.aton expires on the Soth OF June Wheat u also
being exported from Ancona for the same destination
The 0lnistonial O. ISIS In England.
VOTE OF CENsURE DsBATH EBsUMkD- LORD DERBY
sUPPORTsD BY THE 1xTRRME RADICALS-sRCRnr
DIPLOMACY CONDEMNED PALMEKsroN
WANTS MORAL COURAGE AND TRUCKLss TO TO-
REIGN DBsPOTs ANNEXATION ADVOCATED, BUT
THE DON RULE CONDEMNED.
In the House Of Commons on Monday, 18th d Nay, on
the oroer beng read for the resumption Of the
Derby ceDsure debate on the motion OF Mr. Cardwell,
Mr. RoEBUcK said:Sir question Of more i'm portance
WAS perhaps, submaed for discussion ia any legs
lave assembly than that which occupies the aaen.
tioD Of this Rouse think Of the number OF persons
likely TO be affected by it, Of the time 1t whch toe
proposition is brought forward, oil these
ana Fan Of the Roman EMPIRE" enters into . dis
in mat magnificent res.ms which he gives Of the
power and importance Of the empire OF Rome he ssys
That The lie ANS and HS na taken together
the largest community Of men ever subject 70 any
system OF domination But sir Indian empire leaves
tn INK III persons who are Influenced by our dominion in
lnoa amount TO nearly 200 co., and there sub
onsss Sus o ing me n
70 determine whether this dominion h TO be guided
BY the great principles of honesty and virtue cheers)-
guide Of conduct the object which we have
In view s the sole aggrand,zement Of EoglAnd AS
ana usp O ,ns s
there are things which In my mind greater than
Eoglands importance and one Of THESE is that man
hind should learn to recognise ana practice the
ueat principles Of honor and virtue At this pro-
sent moment there Is involved in discussion this
dosnso, for objects purely ssts1 JrS tie grsat pytncs
pies Of virtue and justice Shall we, in order establish
our dominion over what may call the defenoeless PEG
pie India utterly regardless Of that which civilization
ought 70 teach 10 regard-sha we say, pursue
objects without any consideration Of the principles
which ought 10 govern us as people The motion made
BY the right honorable gentleman the other night is,
think, Of the most transparent Of party mauuvres
have ever seen-Qoud cheers)-and have seen many
House Of Commons are vindcatng 70 ourselves the go
vernment Of ndia-for 1t Is idle to talk Of the Grown.
That appears TO excite in the minds Of feeling
something like surprise; but would AK any who
to me- this ouestons not ali the power
said 70 be centred in the Grown really exercised by this
Hoxae Shall We say when We transfer the government
Of India from the East India Company 10 the Grown,
that do not give 10 the Ministers Of the Crown
under the control Of this House Therefore say that
nom the East India Company TO The Crown we really dc
clare that the House Of Commons TO govern India And
at the very time when We are SO discussing this matter Of
the government OF India there comes before . mere
of 200 600 900 Of men, and reduce ne question the
atson Of this bench and that renewed cheers
"No nop) No, no Is there any man utterly void Of
consideration OF what Is going around him and Of what
being enacted before his eyess there any man SO like
blind puppy-(a augh)-as not 10 perceive that VIVA.
1ghtnR for not the happiness Of India but tho
government Of this country Cheers But, sir, let
consider Ibis question as aGscrg the happiness Of 2oO
600, 900 Of human beings Now what 10 the quest be-
fore usS The right honorable gentleman the member for
Oxford mr. Cardwe propounds resolution which really
involves three points for consideration. FIRST he says
that the President Of the Board Of Control wrong in
Canning then he says he the wrong despatch and
hsn he ssys he was wrorg in tbs publication Of that de-
spa,ch Now, Am prepared 70 NEE. him on all these
tina. despach say secondly he wrote the right
TO that despatch; and, thirdly say he
doubt that may sstonsh gentlemen in this House,
but before have done hope shall be able satsy
write an answer 70 that proclamation viii not now
enter into any discussion Of the manner In which
have acquired dominion In Ioda will only say this, that
Of time acquired the domrion OF that vast country
but that did not DO without sacrificing almost
justice Of natiou-(cheers)- We have been r,os-
cious that have been cruel ths have bs.n unjust
but that We have acquired donlinon (cae ", Lave
have sent thereby the wonderful vsor Of goops,
than which nothing can be more wonderful (Besr hesr
But potwths andpg, have sscrhcod truth honor and
justice. (1esr, hesr) know these 10 many gentle
unpelabe truths but they truths nevertheless
(Hesr hesr there only one Justification Of dominion
and that h that u such Al 10 promote tue happiness OF
the people whom IL Is exercisei but in order 10
produce that happiness II must be mercful go
vernment (Hear, hear.) Nov, having acquired this
dominion In India there arose q rebellion against
us We had n wonderful army, and that army muuked.
Let no man for one suppose that sand up Is one
army has perpetraied No man has been more ready 10
raise his voice sgainst them than have been, and will
say Tot uermoel follow those atrocies
(hear)-but draw broad distinction between the mutt.
nous army and the people OF India Hear, hear And
now come 70 Dude The Governor General OF India and
70 annex Dude TO our dominions. bold some pecu-
liar opinions on this matter (HeN hear from The op-
why do you cheerf uAughter) The opinions hold
arc that think the frss injustice the cast-(hcar,
hear)-tat When YOU hdve oo~qAered country you oueM
20 u a. once and not create intermediate driho-
rits and e~t into treaties scsA ae; but that having
done you bound BY those treaties (Hcar, hear)
The landowpsrs (Heas) nat created dscoutent wnsn
The nutiny broke out the people Of 0odc, ~ hso said,
joined the nusinse and We conquered them But before
proclamation, BY which he oonnscaied- use the term
in EDglhh a. was written In Enssh-he connscased,
property Of Dude (Hssr) Issy tSa sAe Aiaoy Of man
knd a6ords no parallel % such case (assr) know
ss' The So,Tsns in their dsy rss. deal q
with The cxcspu Of the property Of SIX persons ear
hear But 70 the commencement Of The question
receives rom India proclansou sha was ordered 20 BE-
issued the fall Of Lucknow; and what did that 20
ysrpmen ,.. oo sees that : proclsmssloo about
would make the whole people Of oade :, belIcus 70
the very end OF their lives (chccrs And gentle
10 observe that has been said believe cannot
be corradicted that this proclamation 10 issued 80 de
oared, done in opposition 70 The opinions and wishes
OF Sir Colin Campbell, SIR J. Outram, and Sir lawrence
car, hear) have private letters London from
India which say that the effect OF this proclamation was
equivalent 70 demand for 20 in addition thoee
have already in India tiear) say, then, that the
government which would have passed q proclama
ton Of that description in silence would have deserved
impeachment-( near, her) land believe there would
have been none ready 70 say 20 ~ the gentlemen
that (the opposiou) bench. (Iaughter) The Preei.
dent Of the Board OF Control receiving such proofs
nation, bound 70 express opinion whose opnIonS
What opinionS His own. (iear hear.) He bound,
acting his own understanding 10 tell Lord Canning
what no thought Of u, and he did tell him. Hear
hear) Whct other conclusion could Ne haw % phen
Ne read " the confscdtion for Of ne lands of hs
people Of Ouds-for u idle 70 tell tbs proclamation
does not consooe The whole land Of Oudei (dear, hear)
This intended proclamation sent home but abe %
clamson issued ut Lucknow, after the fall Of Lus-
now and differed In respects from that proclaim ssion
No hon tho foxn