The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-02-22

(cheers) Nothing in history elbows that,
from the beginning to the end No King OF Eogand has
ever fallen by the hand OF Kings Of France
but IL was in open day. We have never sent hired
anybody 70 Kill any Of national enemies prviiy
anc by assassination. My to NJ de Persigny
would have been that the people England are above a.
" here they feel anger they express it,
and they 90 vndicate national honor but they
do not hire steamboat TO make private ATTACK uoon
public nation they do not hatch cOnsp aces in Linden
to pull down the government Of Paris they not caps
BILE of anything but open and honorable warfare.
Cheers On coming into this House yesterday with the
determination Of giving the notice which did give hsa
spect to a change in the alien bill said ha. at the
solicitation of the Emperor Of the French were
e q. assT Isu Of that man who thus sss
TO alter law Of the advantages Of which he has 80
largely partAken b say tia! England holds her station
among the nations of the earth in consequence Of the asylum
,ohch she offers to all peope'oe are here the refuge for TIE
destitute Of euey nation Louis Napoleon has come here;
Prince Mterch has come here; the Bourbons hare ooms
here; LotSs Philippe has here; but no man
thought Of saying That should alter our Alien Law b.
cause we afforded to them refuge and shelter say
that this occasion If change that law we violate thA
first principles Of constitution we degrade ourselves
before the world and not the English people thaA
come into the House with my ears fall Of that assertion
what my surprise TO hear the noble lord give notice
that he would on Monday next move for an alteration N
that any had told the noble iordfor with all his
varied accom- plishmens suppose he is not lawyer
that the law Of England could not reach con
spiracy; or was it that any man had told hin
that the punishment which the ameliorated law Of Eng
land awards to conspiracy not sufficient For the
last quarter of century we been doing all that
could 10 render the law Of England less bloody than vas
before Il was quarter OF century sgoMsmong me
have learned by experience that mild punishment Ger
tanly administered affords the best security against The
experience has taught us that, and want to know
what it is that has suggested to the noble lord that
hitherto been visited with fine and Imprisonment why
should endeavor to alter that law and TO bring
back 70 the oia cruelty wnicn we nave escnewed
live that England IL she wishes to hold her place among
the nations, ought to maintain her independent posi-
ton and that solicitations Of ally and threaten
iDgs part anybody ought lead her alter that
law. (Hear hear We have been told that some justa
cation for the insoence with which England has
treated might be found in the speech made by the noble
lord at the head Of the at the mansion house in
November last God forbid that the people Of England
should be made answeYabe for every mprudent speech
Of the noble lords CHear, hear" and laugh). Tho
noble lord might have been mpruden upon that occasion.
knows better than the Emperor Of the French how very
little the noble lord expresses the feelings Of the people Of
there were an exhibition OF bad taste upon the part Of ths
noble lord, could not be supposed that the people q
England were responsible for that bad taste there
any fault the noble lord alone responsible. We
have universally expressed detesaton Of the attack
made upon the Emperor of the French, and want TO
know what that has induced him turn upon the
people of England in the way that he has done aud 70
manifest that feeling of hostility to US which has been
shown by his own press his own Minister'S and his ov.
noble lord whether not there has been a1y CORES
pondence with France, the Court of France, the
Ministers OF France upon the subject OF the alien bill or
any alteration in our criminal codeS
Lord PAiMERsroN-I have difficulty whatever in
swe,pg the question of the honorable and learned gentle
man. There has been despatch addressed by the
Minister Of Foreign Affairs at Paris TO the Ambassador
here bearing upon the late transaction TO urge upon her
Maesty's government such measures as IN its wisdom
may think fit 10 adopt with reference 10 that circumstance
mot pointing out any measures, but simply putting the
TO the government That despatch shall have no
difficulty whatever in laying before Parliament. Hear,
hear Now, in the first place wish to repel the charge
which the honorable and learned gentleman has made
against The French Ambassador Count de Persigny
Their accused the British nation OF sympathizng with
OF intending 10 give protection
assasns But Count de Persgny has repeatedly stated
10 that allowances ought 10 be made for the irritation
excited in his country by the late attempt upon the
people Of the Continent knowing the nature OF laws
and applying TO us the principles by which they
know anythng Of constitution the working Of
system must be cannot be satisfied. The honorable
and learned gentleman wishes to anticipate the dscuss'oa
which would properly arise on Monday, when / shall
have TO move for leave TO bring in the bill Of which
have given notice shall not be led by him into pro
discussion Of that measure When propose th
shall explain the nature Of il, and stais The
reasons upon which 1t Is founded But must profess
teman has taken The honorable and learned gentleman
abiding TO certain violent and Incorporate speeches and
addresses which have been made in France would argue
that their account the Parliament Of this country
ought to be prevented from taking any steps which other
upon the merits Of the Parliament might think
proper to adopt Why SIR might retort upon the learned
:, 9u. .ulsrit Sracchos de sediliCne suerenies,
violent language and personal vuperation the part 6
the people of foreign country should say the hon.
ana learned gentleman himself loud ohee.s) who Is N
against every man living, whether al home or abroad
(Greai laughter) II there anything upon which we in
this country pride ourselves is freedom of speech and
that principle leads pass the illusions OF
hon. and learned gentleman. We on those occasions
respect the principle although dlsapprove his exercise
HAuRhter1 Therefore /
most undgnhed and childish in the people OF this country
~ owing 70 some violent EXPRESSIONS ana addresses u
adopt such they might feel to be necessary for
the internal government OF this country (Hear, hear
Allowances to be made for the rrtaed feeling of the
people Of France. Only put inverted suppose
that there had issued from Paris upon more than
cason murdercrs 10 etempt In this country atrocities
similar 10 those which have been perpetraed In Paris
What would be the feelings Of the people In this country
Would not the people Of this country feel the creates, in
courteous and temperate feeling by which be thinks
nations ought 10 be guided In viewing the transactions that
take place in other countricsS Hear bear) say,
therefore, DO trust that however may lament dis
approve these violent expressions In France ought 70
make allowance for them. We ought to consider what
should feel In similar circumstances and should not be
led away by any consideration OF what may be said
abroad from course which, upon is own merits, We may
think right 10 pursue. (Cheers.C
Mr.. HoRSmAS-Iha listened TO the speech OF my noblc
friend with very great regret (Hear hear) regret
the in which he has referred to the subject matter
OF the speech OF the honorable and learned member
Sheffield and regret very much the manner In which he
(Cheers) did intend 10 take any part n this discus-
sion but do feel that cannot 10 justice any member
OF ts House allow mpua,ons 10 be made such upou
| this Nuestion 10 which all interested have
been cast In my opinion, most unfairly upon the honor
able and learned gentleman (iiear, hear.) He did
not complain there were who had nsutd
the national feeling OF England What my honorable and
learned friend said hstha parties In France near
est TO the person OF the Emperor mos, in his confidence
and not parties nj their instance, had concoced and
circulated these charges and addresses that French colo
nels went with addresses 10 The Emperor, that they
acousy received by him, that the addresses were pub
lHhed prominently in the official Monitsu and circulated
throughout France 20 show an excable people what
the language which the Emperor appeared 10 approve ~
addressed TO him with regard TO his ally. and N show,
also, to the people OF Europe what the terms IN
which they might suppose that demands had been made
upon the government OF England FOG security against
repetition Of the crime with which the French governmn nj
had branded the people Of England accomplices Now,
the whole OF the charge OF the honorable and
learned gentleman was that the government Of France