The Washington union. [volume] (City of Washington [D.C.]) 1857-1859, 1858-04-10

ne SPEAKER laid before the House a letter 'ron te
Secretary of the Treasury in answer 70 resolution ~ .e
aI ri March 49, calling for information Ia ie'at" 10 Tue
,r ~ vessels whose names have been changer under
If Marcl, g. 1886 which referred to the Com
,tiee ON Commerce aud ordered 70 he printed
NATIONAL FOUNDRY
~, puIKNER OF Virginia asked unanimous
- !, Introduce for reference bill To establish national
gd,v ,r the fabrication of cannon Tor the use OF the
ayny and navy of the United States
M LETTER, of Ohio. object
AIR IOyEJoY, of Illinois, asked, but did not obtain,
,oous consent To introduce resolution requesting
m aary of War TO inform the House how many otii-
a.rs 81 The army are absent from their duty, and
80, ny claiming 10 be officers OF the army hold civil
offices BY electionor otherwise.
,,p PASSAGE OF riIs DErlcIRScY BILL
,,o.ss resumed the consideration Of the deficiency
-, A., sodne question being shall the bill pass r.
A, BliANCH of North Carolina said whilst he sup
oed the administration, he desired 1t to be understood
Nat he stood on the floor not to carry out the recon
,,ions of any power Of the government without due
,Ia,,an He was az much the friend OF the adj
;;st,at;on as any man the floor but 1t was their
duty TO look into the question before them before passing
mon a. He did not object to deficiency bills when they
were proper aud did not grow out OF disregard OF The
nta that appeared to be necessary and proper he was
willing TO vote an appropriation 10 supply mat deccncy
The bill contained several items belonging 70 Tue dnefeht
branches of the public service. differing very largely not
h; ,heir magnitude but IN the necessity for their
Ionton Much the larger part Of the bill taken up
with the deficiency for the army lie Thought that the
expenditure the army had reached point that he had
no hesitation in saying nonstros and unustiabe.
He east no censrc any particular administration on
bureau for he had not the information necessary to say
who was eensurabe The larger part of the expenditure
for the army had grown out Of the necessity OF sending
the army to Utah That necessity did not exist when
the DEPARTMENT made their estimates but former Con-
res had in view Of the circumstances that might render
an excess Of expenditure necessary the part of the
natve department expressly authorized the Secretary
to make contracts and spend money in anticipation So
far therefore, the army concerned, the items were
for money expended in pursuance of the provisions OF
the law Of 1920 Much had been said about sending
the army to Utah. The Committee Territories had
been repeatedly during the debate challenged To state
why they had not reported back certain resolution
of inquiry into the state OF affairs in Utah He could
not say whether rebellion exists in Utah not but he
could say that the House, against his vote, had on
former day passed resolution expressly declaring that
Utah was in state OF rebellion He believed now that
that vote expressed the truth. Now, he would ask, If
Utah was IN rebellion it not the duty of the Pres
dent to use all the in his power to bring the
Mormons to subsection. In addition to that the consti
tuition and the laws invested the Executive with power to
declare where the troops shall be stationed In the
eice of that discretion the President had determined to
establish military posts that Territory and it did not
comport with their duty Legislators and statesmen al
ter declaring that Territory in state OF rebellion to
fuse the Executive the means Of REFRESHING that rebel
lion In his opinion, the monstrous expenditure for the
army was mainly the result Of practice OF late years
that thought ought to be corrected by the Executive
of allowing half dozen Of adventurous persons set
Ting on the public lands body OF troops for their pro-
lection The settlers of Kentucky, Ohio and Tennes
see went there with their hoes and spades In hand
and their rifles in the other and protected themselves
from their savage foes He would not withdraw the
troops entirely from the Indian country, but the first
step for the Executive to establish posts the from
tiers that by frequent excursions into the Indian
country they could keep the Indians in II by
sending the troops everywhere that this
pcnliture became necessary. He opposed to an In
crease Of the officers Of the army In his simplicity he
imagined II would be the most economical manner Of in
eesing the army to add 10 the number Of prvates In
each company and il he had possessed the information
at the time the army bill passed which he possessed
he would not have let that bill pass without amend
ment expressing his views Taking the troops Of every
nation in Europe that has any military reputaton he
found that the average was officer to every forty
seven men, In the United States service they had one
officer every fourteen men, From this it was obvious
that they had army Of officers AS far rs it was plc
cable he was confident that the present administration
would remove the causes Of this large expenditure He
satisfied that they have already commenced to exert
themselves for reform. But they Ind an army in Utah.
there not in violation OF law but in obedience to the
obligation OF the President to enforce the law of the land
and he did not believe that the House would refuse to
supply the for its maintenance. His proposition
that they should have separate bills to supply the
army and the other deficiencies In conclusion, he sub
mted resolution for the recomnitnent of the bill to
the Committee Of Ways and Means with instructions to
report in lieu OF il separate bills supply deficiencies for
the army for the payment of officers and others reccv-
ing annual salary in the House CT Representatives. for
the Post Office Department, for appropriation to pay
extra compensation to the clerks and other employees of
the last Congress- and to indemnify the last Clerk if he
had paid any Of said compensation.
MIR. ]. CLANCY JONES, Of Pennsylvania, understood
that the gentleman from North Carolina had stated that
the estimates of the Qnartemasers Department had been
submitted to the Committee Of Ways and Means without
the approval Of the Secretary Of War.
Mr. BRANCH said he meant that the estimates had
been given to them without the Recommendation Of the
Secretary Of War
Mr. j. CLANCY JONES wished to correct that i'm
preston While the matter open he had several in
tervews with the Secretary Of War and they passed
these items by with the DESIRE far possible
to reduce the bill to the lowest practicable amount He
had received them with the endorsement of the Secretary
of War; and by unanimous consent they ordered to
be printed
Mr. BRANCH was very glad to hear that such was the
fact.
Mr. j. CLANCY JONES said the wrong impression had
been caused from the fact that the printer had omitted
to print the endorsement Of the Secretary
Mr.. LElCHER. of Virginia. stated that he should like
TO have opportunity to reply TO Of the remarks
OF the gentleman from North Carolina because those
aaks ought not to be allowed to go to the country with
out reply.
Mr. BRANCH demanded the previous question, but IL
'e gentleman from Virginia would renew it, he would
Withdraw 1t for him. He was not willing to throw the
debate entirely open
Mr. SEWARD, of Georgia, objected
Mr. BRANCH then modified his resolution so as sim
ply 70 reeomnit the resolution TO the Committee Of Ways
and Means
The previous question being sustained the recomnit
inent was lost--yeas 75 nays l27-and the bill was