New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-08-26
MIR. LINCOLN's REPLY.

fore be could make himset heard, even by those %
the stand AT lsst he ssid:
NJ CITIZENS: When a rnsn hears himself
somew hat misrepresented IL provokes hin-st least
find il 20 with myself; but when the misrepresenta-
ton becomes very gIoes ard palpsble i 10 more apt
10 amuse him. Laughter Inc hTst tnlng gee III
10 notice 10 the tact that Judge Douglas alleges after
rurDipg through the history Of the old Dsmocrstie
and the old Wing parties that Judge Trupbul and
myself made an arrangement il 1854, by which was
to have the place Of Gen. Shields in the United States
SeIste and Judge Tlumbul was to have the place o.
Judge Douglas. Now, all have to say upon the
subject 10, that think msn-not even Judge Doug
lss-csn prove it, because il If not true. Cheers
have no doubt be is =" confclentous II saying ~
Laughter As TO those resolutions th.t ne took such
ergth OF time to read as being the platform Of the
Republican psyty in 1871
/ say never had anything to do with them, and
think Trumbul never had. Renewed lsughter.I
Judge D0ug csnno. sho~ that either one OF us ever
did have al ythpg 10 dc with them. believe this ls
true about those resou'ions There was csll for g
Convention to form Republican party at Springfield
and thitk that my friend, Mr. Lovsoy, VINO is here
upon this stand had hand in it. think this s true
and think if he will remember accurately he will be
able 10 recoect that he tried TO get me into 1t, and
would not 20 in. Cheers ard laughter. believe It
is also true, that went sway rom Springfield when
tie COnve non in eesson to attend court 10 Taze
well County, IL 10 true they did place my name,
without authority, upon the Committee, and after
ward wrote TO attend the meeting Of the Commit
tee but refused to do So and never had aoythog 70
do with that organization. This r the PLAN truth
about all that matter of the resolutions.
Now, about this story that Judge Douglas tells OF
Trumbu bargaining to sell out the old Democratic
party and Lincoln agreeing TO sell out the OLD wing
party, have the means OF knowing about that iaugn'
ter Judge Douglas cannot have; AID | know there
there is no substance TO il whatever. Applause
Yet hsve no doubt he is conscientious about It,
[Laue hter know that after Mr.. Lovejoy got into
the egsature that Winter, he complained OF me tnat
had told all the old Wings in his district that the
old Wing party was good enough for them, and some
of them voted against him, because l told them so.
Now, have no nome; means ms Gi totally aspr9vng such
net prove negative, but he has right 10 claim that
when man makes an affirmative charge, he must
offer proof to show the truth CT what ne says. l
certainly cannot introduce testimony TO show the mega
tive about thrgs but have right to clsn ths. if
man says be knows thing, then he must show how
he knows it. always have right to claim this and
not satisfactory to me that he may be eonscen-
Now, gentlemen, hate to waste my time on such
things but in regard to that general Abolition tilt that
Judge Douglas maker, when he says that was en-.
gagged at that time in selling out and abotionizingth the
old Wing paIty-f hope you will permit me to read
part Of printed speech that made then at Peoria,
which viii show altogether q different view of the
position l toe k In that contest Of 1851
Voice-Put on your specs
Mr.. LncOln-Yes Sir, am obliged 10 do so. j an
no longer young mar lLsughter.J
when Southern people tel Us they more e'ponsbs
say is existing institution and there WY to get
rid of IT, them shall not blame them for not knowing
TO Sc to WITH ss y G %0d b. to free
them all and send them 70 LbeIiaheir native land but
hope there might be in this its execution would be impossible
reject that they were al landed ,ssI. in day they would
mGrey and ,uIa, ,hpp enough the word % sa
andeIni Are we quite sure would better their condi
ton thpk would not bold one in Slavery suy nate bot
w nion Is MT clear enough denounce people upon Shall
tho IndS S %shs them politically and socially our equals
have some sbsljtiop tendepcies.w am among men who
4" Shall We free them and them politically aud .ecia4y
equs My feelings will not admit OF this and they
wSsi @ sod With t''s not 0f NOT SGa the
question. universal feeling whether well or i'll founded,
not y be sS5SsS We cannot then make them OsI
rights acknowledge them fully and freely and would give
them legislation for the recovery OF their fusves, which
would not be likely in the 'trnsecy Of its provisions
tale nee man into Slavery than our ordinary criminal laws are
i have reason to know that Judge Douglas knows
that ! said THE l think he has the answer here TO
one Of the questions he put TO me. / do not TO
allow him to cstechse me unless he pays back for it
in kind. l will not questions, one after
another unless he Ieciprocaes; but as he made this
inquiry and have answered it before, he has got it
without my getting anything in return. He has got
my answer on the Fugitive Slave Law.
Now, gentlemen, don't want TO read at any gre ater
length, but this is the true complexion of all have
ssd in regard to the institution Of Slavery and
the black This is the whole of IT, and anything
that argues me into his idea OF perfect social and po
cal equality with the negro is but specous and fan.
tastc arrangement of words, by which q man can
prove a horse chestnut to be chestnu. horse.
Laug liter. will cay here, while upon this subject,
that have purpose directly indirectly 10 inter
fere with the institution OF Slavery the States where
it e1sts. believe l have no lasful right to do go
and have 70 inclination to do So hsve no purpose
to introduce political ard social eqush.y between the
white and the black races. There Is physical differ
ence between the two, which in my judgment will
probably for forbid their living together upon the
TOOTH of perfect equality and inasmuoh bee ,mes
u necessity that there must be difference /, as well
Judge Douglas an in favor OF tue race to which be-
long having the superior position. have never said
any thing the contrary but hold that notxithstand.
irg al this, there is no reason IN the world Why the
negro is not entitled to al the natural rights epumer.
sted in the Declaration OF Independence the night 10
life, liberty and the pursuit Of happiness loud
cbeers hold tina; he is much entitled to these as
the white man. sgree with Judge Douglas be is not
my equal III many respects-ceitsiay not in color,
perhaps rot in molsl or rtelectual endowment. Bat
IN the right to eat the bread without leave OF anybody
ese, which his Own hand earns, he is my equal aud
the equal Of Judge Douglas, anu the equsl OF every
living mar. Great spplause.l
Now pass ON to consider one or two more OF these
little folles The Judge woialy st faul, about his
early hiend Lincoln oeirg grocery keeper"
Laughter l don't know as if il would bs grest
If had been, but ne is mistaken Lincoln never
Kept grfSery ANY, where in the world. Laughter
" Is true that Lincoln did work the latter part Of ore
inter 10 little shl-house up st the head of hol.
low. Rosrs Of laughter And 80 thiIk my friend
the Jacge, is equal al fault when he charges ms a.
the time when was in Congress of having oppos,d
our soldiers who were fighting in the Mexcsn war
The Judge DID not make his charge very distinctly.
but can tel you what he can prove by referring 10
the record. You remember l was an old Wing s,j
whenever the Democratic psrty tried 70 &c. me- -
vote that the war had been rghteousy begun b. the
President, / would not do il. But whsaeysr thsv
asked for any money, or lsri warrants or anything 10
pay the soldiers there, during all thst ,ime, gsys
the same votes that Judge Douglas did. Loud an.
plsuse You can think SIS you please as 10 whether
tina; Wa consistent Such is The truth and tie Judge