The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1858-04-08

wlthln my knowctIgc u rather The other
way. ! believe they counted many men in
that census US inhabitants of Minnesota
whose families remain in New England 10
this 1ay. Thoe persons have gone there
with view to ettle they ART making ar
rangoments 10 ststle-but that is not taking
up residence. take it that mans resi-.
dence is where his family resides. what. ever
his ultimate purposes may be. The fact is,
! believe that that census in all probability
is larger than the true nambcr Of residents
in Minnesota. A. any rate, do not know
how VIC can obtain by mere suggestion, csti-
nation, or guess, u u Yankee would call il,
what should be Tie rule Of our duty, when
we have official information before us
When we take the returns before us aud
make liberal allowance for the seven or
eight remaining counties, by estimating their
population according 10 the number ofvotos
they cast, think We do all that We can Us Il
basis for our acton; and on that basis they
are entitled to one representative, and go
half way towards another.
The question pending now ! understand
IL on the amendment Of the Senator from
North Carolina to the second section. !
have no great objection, TO the amendment,
though think two Representatives ARE more
than Minnesota il entitled to; but do not
sce that the amendment will help the matter
at all. As truly stated the Senator from
Illinois. and the Senator from Missouri, the
tr0rbfc' Il, that II Mihncsota coin0f have
three members she cannot have any at the
present time but there must be a new cloc-
tion.
Mr. Hugh. Why cannot the House Of
Representatives take the highest?
Mr.. Collamer The people have voted
for three men. The people have never de-
cidcd which two or which one of the three
they would have, If they had to select only
one or two. The House of Representatives,
in admitting any Of them, will have to make
an election for them They will have to 80
lect from the three who have been elected
by the people, aud think they have no
power TO make any such election as that,
any more OF two members than OF onc.
do not know which Of these men had the
highesi number Of votes, or whether there
was any difference betwccn them in that
respect, nor do ] think that any criterion at
MI, That might dcr"i u" . "'a"' '"c"
ton. II the people were Ia elect two mem
bers, they might locate them in different sec-
tons of the State. | do not scc how i, is
possible 10 determine anything any more
with two members than with one. II We
strike ont this section. prcaeme the whole
three must b. admitted, because the consii-
tuition Of Minnesota provides for three
members Of Congress and If We admit
them with that constitution, and exclude no
conclusion to the contrary, we provide for
admitting the three members. Iha, Is eyi.
dcn,ly improper. and do not know but that
il is unconstitutional for We have no power
TO give Representatives disproporti9ned 10
different States ] think, therefore, the sec
tion shonld not be stricken out As 10 The
amendment, bdo not think Il will help the
matter at all bu, !, will stiIl require Dcw
election, as much ~ as il only one I.cprcscn-
tativc were provided for Whether you al
low one Representative or two Representa-
tiyea, the matter will have 10 b. sent back
to the people for them 10 make an election
Of the true number to which they are cnti-
tied
Mr.. Pngh ] ask for division of The
aDendmen, Of the senator from North Car
DINA beiey, the State Of MinnceOta II
entitled 10 three Representative. ! think
~ from information ] have shall vote
for the first part Of the ainendmcn, of the
Senator from North Carolina, striking out
tone" and inserting "two," and then ! shall
vote against the second1,art ol his amend.
men,, 40 as 10 leave the Hone Of Represcn'
taiiycs on such testimony as they may re-
ceiye, 10 decide whether or not Minnesota
shall be entitled 10 one, two, or three Rep
r,1en,atiycs.
Mr. Bayard. ! believe the pooding mo
ton "a % strike out the second section Of the
bill rcprtsd by tn committee.
The Vicc PrcsIent. The Chair will
state TO the Senator from Delaware TINT the
pcnding question Is on the moti1n Of The
s.r,a,m from North Carolina, 10 amend the
seconi s'ctioD by striking on, the word
zone" and inserting two" and by striking
out The rcgl1ue Of tie section after the word
Representatives. 50 ,ba, the clan~ phal
read that saI State .ball be e2tiiled to two
Representatives. 10 the Congress Df ,h' Uni
ted StaisS'
Mr Bayard. ay objection will be pre-
ci isy the ssme to that ameIdmeni ~ it
wald he 10 striking on, tic xLoic section.
Tfs enabling art fr Minbf7ota maje tho
proper roYision under The Laws Of the Uni
ted State. Evry State il entitled, IN the
Hoiac Of Representative, 10 proporti0n
ate representation, sccmdpg 10 the princi-
pl,s of tbc consultation, n0t ~ au arbitrary
number; ard therefore, wh'u new s,a,e u
coming IN, a' her popalation coih not h.
known q, The time Of the preceding general
decpnial enumeration, Il IL always proper
~ proyide for ascertaininy her population.
Cmgre~ made that provision 10 The
Mmnesas enabling art 5ection four Of
that art rrovit,ed that, 10 the even. of the
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