Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1858-05-08
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

Mr.. English called for the regular order being the
Kansas report of the Committee of Conference.
Mr.. Clark IN. W had intended to give the reasons
why he should vote against ii, but nights sickness
had left him physically unable to undertake the task
He would therefore merely say that he regarded
this new scheme eminently Objectionable in FORM
nndstill more dangerous in substance. lie would seek
the floor future occasion TO deliver his views.
Mr.. Shorter (Aa) said he had with five six
Southern Democrats, uniformly resisted the previous
question. He wanted time for discussion in order to
arrive Mt correct construction of this bill He now
found that the general construction that il did not
refer the Lecompton Constitution back to the people
of Kansas. 1.-The believed it did he would vote against
it, even with the BLACK Republicans.
The gentleman from Georgia Mr. Stephens) said
the Constitution not to be submitted and the gen.
man from Indiana (Alr. Engish) by his silence ac-
guessed in that view Therefore he (Shorter would
now cooperate with the friends Of the measure and
vote for the previous question.
Mr. Campbell said his colleague (Mr. Cox) at the
commencement of the session. took the banner of non
ular sovereignty his hand and triunphantlv defend
ed it, but now in the full view Of glorious victory he
beat retreat
Mr. Cox wished to say that he though, the amend
mcn which the House passed the best but as this
could not become law, he willing to take next
best under the circumstances.
Mr. Campbell now asked Mr. Cox whether he un-
derstood the bill Of the Committee Of Conference as
submit ing the Constitution to the vote of the people
Mr. Hughes thd.) objected to Mr.. Cox answering
the question.
Nj Cox replied that although the Constitution was
not submitted directly, yet in effect the people of KAN
sas will have an opportunity to say whether they want
it.
Mr.. Campbell wanted an unequivoca answer. He
then produced letter written by Mr.. Cox dated Feb
q, in which the latter said +" While he had vote il
should never be draggled in the Lecompton mire and
that, so help him God he never could do otherwise"
Yes, remarked Mr.. Campbell, my colleague said he
would vote for ne proposition which would not sub
init the Constitution to the vote Of the people,
Mr.. Cox said he still Endorsed that letter
Mr.. Campbell referred to the inct that about TWEEN
~ Anti-Lecompton Democrats pledged on the
high point of personal honor to stand to the end by
the Montgomery amendment, in company with the
Republicans.
Mr.. Groesbeck replied that he had made no such
pledge, and had 10 such understanding or consulta-
ton.
Mr., Campbell replied that he did not make the as
serti0Nwith reference TO the gentleman and asked
Mr.. Grocsbeck whether he understood this bill as sub
hitting the Constitution.
MIR. Groesbeck--ln effect 1t does.
Mr.. Owen Jones PENN remarked that lie had nev-
er given pledge to Mr.. Campbell. or ANYBODY else
that he would stand by the Montgomery amendment
or any other measure.
Mr.. Campbell asked whether he did not meet with
what were knownas Antl-Lecompton Democrats and
whether Committee was not appointed, with power
10 represent and speak for them TO another body?
MIR. Jones replied that he met ON one or two occa-
siohs with certain Democrats, but no Committee of
'hm Kind was appointed or authorized to pledge his