New-York daily tribune., 1858-09-28
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OBSCENE PUBLICATIONS.

and engTayngs We're To be examined yesterday mora
ing before Judge RUSSELL but after waiting in that
funcionarys cfce until l2l the parties brough,
before the Recorder az his office, No. IL Chambers
street.
Oflicer McDougai deposei that he received war
ran, issued by Judge Russell, AMI went to the house
therein designated and searched the house. previous
10 which however. he found in Possession of Charles
Moral and Jean De Brame some plates, sample ot
which lie showed To the Recorder having the warrant
in his hands he went to the house Saturday morn
ug and told the younger gentleman de Bramel that
be wanted six dozen of the pictures tor gentleman
who had called before; he at first appeared 10 know
nothing about thcm but said he sorry he had not
seen the gentleman, but deponent at length spoke IN
plain terms and stated what he required the prisoner
stated that they had none hand, but he would get
him six dozen il he gave him a written order
Here counsel for the accused interposei an objec
tion to the effect that the officer had right To enrap
the prisoner, but the Recorder ovcrrued the obcc-
ton
The prisoner said he would get them at three days
notice If he got order; the officer said he had no
auth ,rty TO give the order but he would consult the
person who employed HIM he accordingly procured
written order and proceeded To the place, whereupon
the prisoner told him he should be very cautions,
several detectives had been with him already and il
WAS a very dangerous business the deponent replied
thnt he did not wish to get himself into trouble, but
he should Ike TO have the plates Sunday; the prs-
nuer promised n, have them ready the day in ques
ton and the officer went there and purchased SIX
dozen uncoored at 81 per dozen the officer asked for
a bill, but the prisoner said, " Never mind olll-let
me have the money" deponent appeared as il he
wished TO pav and then stepping back made known
his true chara ter whereupon they attempted to de-
stroy the pictures aud the old man attempted to de-
stroy the plates they seized all the cameras and about
three hundred plates, and arrested the parties.
Crosse -examined-Receiyed the warrant at y a. M,
on Saturday and went immediately to the premises,
which used partially as dwelling ana tue upper
stories for this business nothing To Indicate there
was any other business pursued there, more than
daguerreoype establishments went through an aiey
way TO the building and looking into the basement,
asked some women there for MIR. Moriali the woman
came and rang the bell the door was opened, aud
eponent went up to the fourth story he the elder
prisoner looking through iron grating above, who
directed him to come mp, which he did; the elder
gentleman then came down, looked through a window,
and after consulting with the younger man DE r.'nal
depunent invited into the apartment, AMI founi
the two prisoners there.
Q. Was it not place from whence skylsht WAS
removed
A. A skyligh could not well be on the attic, for
person would fall through il; my impression was II
was to lock through and see who was coming up;
cant sey If il was for lighting the hiy it might have
been, but deponent can't tell with what object II was
placed there; looked through the gratiag the bars
might have been two inches npar'.
Q. Well, the long and the short OF the matter IL,
Mr. McDougal that this was skylight to light the
hall
A. 1t may have been 30; never saw such thing for
Nous contrv ance the attic not different from any
other dagueueOtypc establishments; saw M counter
or cases, where goods We're exposed tor SALE there
were 10 pictures In sght anything Objectionable
or unobiectionable far pictures concerned;
the usual furniture of dagGerreofypc establishment
in that room: got some of the plates there AMI
got the pictures and plates down stairs did not
order any pictures 10 be made; the prisoner SAID he
would have them: deponent went there on purpose TO
get them, and on Saturday evening showed specimens
# what he wanted Had first intercourse On satur-
day morning Deponent repeats h!s direct eSaInina,
tion in eccl Dep0ueut further said that he wanted
smutty'' pictures, but doesn't remember the exact
words passed; the young gentleman, however, under
stood him. for he said he did not make them himself,
nor had he any Of the kind, that they imported,
and he could get them at any time by getting
three days notice. "A note shown.l Deponent
wrote the note, and signed i Alfred Thonp-
SON." he your prisoner SAID to accommoiatc
him be would get them Sunday; he said il WAS
dangerous business and told complainant 10 be eau
tious; promised to have them on Sunday at p, M;
said he was going out, but Mr. Moral would deliver
them TO deponent who went there Sunday, and
went up stairs by direction Of r in the base-
ment; went on the third story, and person having
opened the door he went in; he asked the young gem
tIeman tor the pictures who went up stairs deponent
followed and Mr.. DE Brane counted out the pictures,
six DOZENS and placed them in witness lands didn't
give the prisoner any money, but aftar le received
the pictures told who he and showed his shield;
deponent then went down the stairs aud opened
window 10 call his associates, whereupon DE Braine
followed, and tore down number OF pictures which
were hung on line, the story; deponent re-
turned up stairs and found Moral destroying the
plates there only dozen finished pictures
The Recorder then took the examination Of Moral,
as follows
O. What is your name A. Celeste MOrial.
O. How old are you a. 10.
Y Where were you born : A. Pars. o.,
q Where do you live A. Green street, NJ. 81.
O. What is your business A. Practical paper
hanger.
O. Have you anything to say, and if 90, what, rela-
tive TO the charge preferred against you A aHi
not guilty.
The tfiicer here stated that the parties made a
strong endeavor have the matter settled on the spot
stating that all lie had to do was to name his price.
He made this statement IN justice t0 himself anu AS
associates.
Recorder-Au right. Sir; you have done yonr duty.
The Recorder then examined De Brsme.
q. What is your name A. Jean De Braine
q. How old are you a. %.
q. Where were you bornl a. Batavia.
q. Where do you live A. No. SJi Green street,
New-iork.
Q. What is your business A. Stsro,cope manu-
factmer.
Q. Have you anything to say, if 20, what, relative
20 the charge preferred against you A. Not guilty
gentleman now appeared as bail fH the accused,
but Tot having any real estate In New.iork was re-
fused.
BAIL am a householder, your Honor.
II Rseorder-It doesn't matter whether you are =
householder or a horschoder; il won't do. can
accept any person as bail, who does not own real
estate in tie City and County Of New-YOrk.
Tie prisoners were temporarily committed In deiau'
Of 8 600 bail each.
There were number Of persons present who man.
tested an interest in the proceedings. Among '"e,
Inan pointed out to the eporters as fr.'er ue
Besuveau, who attracted some attention among Tue
tmid by threatening to blow out the brains Of any
reporter Who should presume to publish his name AZ
the same time yowing to shed s.l his hooa u ae'sh''