Cleveland morning leader. [volume] (Cleveland [Ohio]) 1854-1865, 1858-10-19
r.. aII,,Ie Giant, and Mr.. Ltnoeln

have gathered to hear these champions IN de-
bate. and the excitement has run high with the
masses, though everything has been done de-
Gently and in order.
The first few debates the Little Giant" was
a full match for his sledge-hammer competitor
but in the later encounters "Old Abe" appears |
to be driving the "Giant" to the wall He has
got Douglas on the defensive evidently, and his |
we'll directed blows tell better than when he |
first commenced striking out
Mr. Douglas gets excited, starts of under iuli
head and seems TO lack wind and muscle for the
closing rounds, while Mr.. Lincoln commences
calm and cool, and as he warns up the "head
in chancery" gets terribly battered
The sixth great debate between Lincoln and
Douglas took place at Quincy on the 18Th
Some IL, 900 persons were present, and among
the listeners were boat load from Iowa and
another from Missouri. Mr.. Lincoln opened the
debate. was followed by Douglas, and Lincoln
concluded in a half hour rejOinder. In their
opening speeches both eonjured the people to
maintain silence and withhold all applause
We quote several extracts, indicating the spirit
and power of the debate, from
NR. LINcoLN's KEJOISDER.
On taking the stand, Mr. Lincoln was rseeiv-
ed with 4 tremendous cheer. He said
Ny FR1EsDs Since Judge Douglas has said
to won in his conclusion that he had not time
in an hour and q half to answer all had SAID
m an hour. il follows of course that l VIII not
he able To answer in half an hour all that he has
said in an hour and half GCheers and
| laughter
j wish TO return to Judge Douglas my pro-
found thanks for his public annunciatlon here
| to day, TO be put on record, that his system OF
policy in regard TO the institution oi slavery
eoHiemDlGfes that II shall last tOTereT lGreat
cheers, and cries OF "Hit him again.l We are
getting little nearer the true issue OF TINS con-
/ troyersy, and am profoundly grateful for tins
one sentence Judge Douglas asks why
.'eannot the institution of slavery, or rather,
"why cannot the nation, part slave and part
"free, continue as our fathers made 1t tOrereT =.
In the first place, insist that our fathers dad
noi make this nation half slave and half free,
or part slave and part free. [Applause, and
| sTbat's so " insist that that they found the
institution OF slavery existing here. They did
not make it SO, but they left 1t so because they
knew of no way 10 get rid Of It at that time
[.sGood," /" &c Good, That's true."l When Judge
Douglas undertakes to say that as matter OF
choice the fathers of the government made this
nation part slave and part free, he assumes lrhaf
Is historically falsehOod [Leng continued aP-
plause I More than that; when the fathers OF
The government cut off the source Of slavery by
the abolition of the slave trade, and adopted 4
system of restricting it from the new Territories
where il had not existed, l maintain that they
placed where they understood, and all sensible
men understood, it was IN the course OF ultl-
mate extinction ["that's sol; and when Judge
Douglas asks me why it cannot continue as OUT
fathers made It, l ask him why he and his
friends could not let it remain as our fathers
made it Tremendous cheeringl
!, Its precisely all l ask Of him IN relation TO
the institution of slavery, that 1t shall be placed
upon the basis that our fathers placed 1t upon.
Mr.. Brooks, of South Carolina, once said, and
truly said, that when this government was estab-
lished no one expected the institution OF slave
nv TO last until this day and that the men who
formed this government were wiser and better
men than the men of these days; but the men
of these days had experience which the fathers
had not, and that experience had taught them
the invention of the cotton gun, and this had
, made the perpetuation of the institution OF sla-
very necessity in this country. Judge Doug
las could not let it stand upon the basis upon
which our fathers placed it, but removed II and
put II upon the cotton gn baSlS- hoars oi
laughter and enthusiastic applause. Ii Is a
question. therefore, for him and his friends to
answer-why they could not let 1t remain where
the fathers Of the Government originally placed
it. ICbeers, and cries of "Hunah for Lincoln!'
"GcOd ~ "GOOdrl
hope nobody has understood me as trying TO
sustain the doctrine that We have right TO
quarrel with Kentucky, or Virginia, or any OF
the slave 5. ates about the institution OF slavery
thus giving the Judge an opportunity 70 make
himself eloquent and valiant against US IN light
ing for their rights | expressly declared in
nv opening speech, that had neither the IN
clinaiiOn to exercise, nor the belief IA the ex-
istence Of the right to interfere with the States
Of Kentucky or Virginia in doing as they pleas
ed with slavery or any other existing instltu-
ton Loud applanse.l Then what becomes oi
all his eloauence in beaIf of the rights of States,
which are assailed by no living man! lap
plause. 'He knows it's all humbuggey."l
But have to hurry on, for have but half
hour The Judge has informed mt, or Informed
this audience, that the Washington Union is Ia
boring for nv election to the United States SEN
ate. TCheers and laughterl That is news 10
! me-not very ungrateful news either. Turning
10 MIR. W II Carlin, who was on -he stand J.
| | hone that Carlin will be elected - the State
Senate and will vote for me. Mr.. Carlin shook
his head. Carlin don't fall in, perceive, and
| suppose he will not do 90 much for me laugh
ter but am glad of all the support l can get
anywhere, if ! can get 1t without Praeteing
any deception to obtain it In regard to this
larre portion of Judge Douglas speech. in
which he tries TO show that in the controversy
between himself and the Administration party
/ he il in the right, do not feel myself at all
eomnetent or inclined 70 answer him. i say 70
/ him. "Give It to them tiaughterl-giye 1t to
them lust all YOU can" [renewed laughter and
cheers1-ani, on the ether hand, | say TO Car
lin. and Jake Davis, and to this man Nogley up
here in Hancock, "Give It to Douglas trOars of
laughterl-just pour it into him" lCheers and
laughter, Good for you," 4" Hurrah for Lin
eoln,'l
Now in regard to this matter of the Drei
Scott decision, wish to say word or two
After all, the Judge viii not say whether, if a
decision is made holding that the people Of the
States cannot exclude slavery he viii support It
or not. He obstinately refuses to say what he
will do in that case. The Judges Of the Su-
preme Court as obstinately refused to say what
thew would do on this subject. before this l
reminded him that at Galesburg he had saId the
Judges had expressly declared The contrary, and
YOU remember that in my opening speech told
him had the book containing that decision here,
and would thank him TO by MS nnger on the |
place where any such thing was said. de has |
occupied his hour and a half, and he has not
ventured to Try TO sustain the assertion Loud
cheers He nerer eA Renewed cheers-l-
But he is desirous of knowing how We are GO
ing to reverse the Dred Scott decision. Judge |
Douglas ought to kaow how. Did not he and |
his political friends find way TO reverse the
decision of that same Court IN favor OF the con-
stutionality Of the National Bank lCheers and |
laughter.l Didn't they find way to do it so
effectually that they have reversed 1t as com |
pletely as any decision ever was reversed-so |
..-..-.ti.r. !. cnncarr.ad l. |