The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1858-09-16
THE WEEKLY PIONEER AND DEMOCRAT.

will answer his question. In reference 70
Kansas. Il Il my opinion, that az she ha
population enough to constitute slave State
he has people enough for free State.
tCbeers) viii not make Kansas an ex.
ceptional ease TO the other States Of the
Union. [Sound, and bear, hear. i hold
il 10 be O sound rule ofuniyersal application
TO require territory TO contain the requi
site population for q member OF Congress
before Il 10 admitted o. o State into the
Union. made that proposition 10 the Sen
ate in 1856, and renewed il during the last
session, In bi!l providing that no territory
OF the United States should form constitu.
ton and apply for admission until il had the
requisite population. On another occasion
| proposed that neither Kansas Or any terri.
tory should be admitted until il had the re-
quiste population. Congress did not adept
any OF my propositions containing this gen.
eral rule, but did make an exception Of Kan
Sas. will not stand by that exception.
Cheers Either Kansas must come in as
free State, with whatever population abe
may have, or the rule must be applied TO oil
the other territories alike. Cheers.l i
therefore answer at once, that II having been
decided that Kansas has people enough for
u slave State, hold that she has enough Tor
free State. Good, and applause. hope
Mr.. Lincoln Is satisfied with my answer,
The ought to be, and cheers and now !
would like 10 get his answer TO bis own in.
whether or not be will vote TO
admit Kansas before she has the requisite
population. Hit him again. | want to
know whether be viii vote TO admit Oregon
before that territory has the requisite popu-
lation. Mr.. Trumbull will not, and the same
reason that commits Mr.. Trumbull against
Oregon, commits him against Kansas, even
II she should apply for admission as free
State. You've got him, and cheers. If
there Is any sincerity, any truth IN the argu-
ment Of Mr.. Trumball in the Senate against
the admission OF Oregon because she had
not 93420 people, although her population
was larger than Kansas, he stands pledged
against the admission Of both Oregon and
Kansas until they have 93A20 inhabitants.
/ would like Mr.. Lincoln 10 answer this
question. would like him TO take bis own
medicine. Iaugbter.l II he differs with
Mr.. Trumball, let him answer his argument
against tho admission Of Oregon, instead Of
poking questions at me. Right, good, good,
laughter and cheers
The next question propounded TO me by
Mr.. Lincoln Is, can the people OF terrific
ry, In any lawful way, against the wishes OF
any citizen Of the United States, exclude
slavery IRON their limits prior TO the lorna.
ton Of State Constitution. answer EN-.
phatically, a. Mr.. Lincoln has heard ne an.
swer hundred times from every stump in
Illinois, that In my opinion the people OF u
territory can, by lawful means, exclude
slavery from their limits prior TO to the for.
nation Of State Constitution. Enthusi.
astic applause. Mr., Lincoln knew that l
had answered that question over and over
again. lie heard me argue the Nebraska
bill on that principle all over the State 10
1854, in 1855, and in 1856, and he has 70
excuse for pretending to be in doubt US to
my position on the question. IL matters
not what way the court may hereafter de-
eide as to the question whether slavery may
or may not go into territory under the
constitution, the people have the lawful
means to introduce II or exclade il a. they
please, for the reason that slavery cannot
exist day nor an hour anywhere, unless Il
Is supported by local police regulations.
fright, right Those police regulations
can only be established by the local Legs-
lature, and II the people arr opposed to sla-
very, they will elect representatives to that
body who will, by unfriendly legislation, ef.
fectually prevent the introduction of it into
their midst. II, on the contrary, they are
for II, their legislation will favor It's extern
sion. Hence, no matter what the decision
OF the supreme Court may be Oh that 40.
stract question, still the right Of the people
To make u slave territory or q free territory,
Is perfect and complete under the Nebraska
bill. hope Mr., Lincoln deems my answer
satisfactory on that point.
The third question which Mr.. Lincoln
presented Is, Il the Supreme Court OF the
United States shall decide that State Of
this Union cannot exclude slavery IRON It's
own limits will submit Ia III am amaz.
ei that Lincoln should ask such question.
{" A school boy knows better y Yes, u
. ctuubl wy htSs hlOW UttttI. Mr, tItl-
coins objec, Is 10 cast an imputation upon
the Supreme Court. He knows that there
never was but one man 10 America claim.
ing any degree OF intelligence or decency,
who ever for moment pretended such a
thing,
( II is true that the Washington JnIoa, 10
an article published on the 18th OF last
December did put forth that doctrine and
denounced the article on the floor Of the
,Ssssts, We ySesh which Mr.. Lincoln now
! prs,srSs@ssi yS44 the President. The
l.tt,as hadslAi6ii hat slavery had RICH,
to 20 inis the lrse States and jhst any pro.
yfE6 in tbs SVVfiptFJS hlySof the free
States "tiesutgfN TP; Jay and void
denounced IL In the Senate, as said
before, and was the first man who did.
Lincolns friends, Trumbull, and Seward,
and Hale, and Wilson, and the whOe Black
Republican side Of the Senate were silent.
They left il 10 me TO denounee it. iChesrs.l
And what was the reply made to me on
that occasiont Mr.. Toombs, of Georgia