The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-05-06

Tns Ansgsd Fvrxery OF = Dr~ft On the 6aens-
raj Peat Once Department..
CoNrINU AXIOM OF THE EXAMINATION BnF0RE uFrrKD
sTirys COMMISSIONERS Bgrrs-sviDENCB OF JOHN
y. RKEsIDE AND JOHN b. hURRAY-CUkIOUs FA0rs
CONCERNING THE IDENTITY OF THE ALLEGED
FORGED DBAFr, ETC
The exainssion in the Of William Fuller, charged
with attempting TO negotiate forged draft On the General
Post Office for S. 0oo dated November 1884, and puy
porting be drawn by James Reesde and endorsed by
O B. Brown, continued yesterday morning before
United states Commissioner Belts. Mr. John z Heeside,
who wss being examined .. the last adjournment, re-
samed The stand and his redirect examination
menced by Mr. Joachinssen the Assistant District Ator
ney, az follows
@ From 1884 70 the present time what opportunity
have on had Of judging Of the signature OF your hera
A. have seen him write frequently, and have papers Of
ais handwriting in my possession.
saw NJ Brown write In 1884, since that time have had
occasion peruse lumber Of bis letters and drains.
@ DO yoa know the handwriting Of Mr. Fuller, the de-
iendsntY Look q this paper (the alleged forged drsf)
and tell whether any portion of the handwriting
semoes that Of Mr.. Fuller Objected and disAowed
Q. Have you seen Mr.. Fuller writer A. Yes know
his handwriting sufhcent TO Judge Of H. Examining the
draft the w" In Washington resembles his handwriting.
also the .Wm in William 7. Barry, tho r' in w. T. Bar
and she "T IN the commencement Of the word Trea
suIer; also the APP on the back Of the draft the AN" in
the date Of the draft bears . resemblance.
O. Look at these exhibits and gay whose handwriting
they In the body2 A. ExhibH 10 my fsthers eN
hbis two is; exhibit thrs Is nos-the signature bears
slight resemblance; exhibits four and ave are In my "a
Yoa said there were difficulties between your father
and the government; do yon know Of eny drafts Of The
by the government A. Nothing, except from the STATE
men. Of Mr. Fuller; know Of no draft passed by my
80 r a. ss
sdes submitted all their evidences but since have been
obliged 70 sals up several drsfss which had been ds
Do pom know Of . sui. between your father and the
government Collected 70 by Mr.. Holmes and allowed
When was that suit tr.ed' A. In the fall of 1884, in
Phsdelpha In the United sases Court was not present
O. Have you ever hoard Of ths drait before you saw
in Washington Ioojecssd 70 and al'owed] A. No. sir,
Q. Had your father any particular hAb. of folding his
ieSert. t0bjected 10 and disaiowed
fBy Mr. HoImes-re Cross examination
Won have cot seen . duplicate or Counterpart
Of the paper at the Orphans Court IN the city Of Pha
depha The came being there ss an exhibit or have you
such paper before certain auditors appointed by
that cour2 A. have agreement Of this kind be-
fore the sudors Of STATE was an agreement ofIhe
general provisions employing Mr. Fuller agen
of my father; think produced the paper myself; do
not exactly remember, but think found deposited IN
the vault Of the Bank Of North America Philadelphia,
where had laid twenty years; there is now claim
pending before the auditors by Mr. Fuller against my
fathers estate he claims large amount there are scve-
raj Claims varying from TO twenty seven thousand
dollars; defending that suit, sctpg for the estate,
and using all legal efforts TO defeat it, think is about
not with my consent ever; Mr. Fullers claim was made
within three years.
John Mchurray, banker, sworn and examined by
Nr. Joachimrsen-i am q banker, IT A Wall street;
know VIM. Fuller.
Q. Have you had any business with hlma A. I never
carried any transaction for him. he has made
two propositions to me.
Q Look at this paper Irhe alleged forged draft WAS
O. Did you have such document A. Yes, sir; there
was document Of this kind sresented TO me BY Mr..
Fuller
n Wbat Ala ha want Won In 40 Nth
Mr. pomes objected to going any further on thm sub
jet. the witness had fully identified the DRAFT.
The Commissioners admitted the question as part Of the
The wftness-I think very strange that there no.
psrs going through my hands though il remark hsd
been made to me should have said that this was the
same document.
The Commissioner-what do you now say about iH A.
n looks like the one should think II the paper.
10. What passed between you and Mr.. Fuller with
gard TO hisf A. MIR. Fuller said that he would like TO
sell the draft that he presented 10 me- said would
deGvor " negotiate IT. asked him some questions rs 70
=, n sss s sTs %as
q two gentlemen IN the city AMI then sent on TO Riggs
h Co., bsnsers OF Washington.
alowed) A. sent II on the same day received it, re-
questipg them 70 see IL was regular and endesvor TO
GLIDING copy OF the draft made by his clerk here
sdmited 10 evidence, and marked exhibit B, 70 which NJ
o. A,er you sent this draft 10 washrgtonydd Mr. Fuller
70 you about S A. Yes, str be came the oath
OF April at my request said would probably know on
that day he then and said 20 him thAtI wished
proof-thst had understood shat the government
bad refusei 70 pay interest these drafts and
wshed proof that this draft had been presented NJ
maturity, 10 bind the government; and said that
would draw such AFFIDAVIT as wanted he would swear
III ns p s ne Of the
draft here introduced and admitted in evidence
marked exhibit CT
The witness-rhe paper which was presented TO me by
Mr. Fuller endorsed James Recsde; the other
the presented me did not see, and they also
are mentioned in the description made by my clerk by
my direction; may have been an Oversight. Of surs,
ehali cali the clerk 10 account for this.
Mr. holmes--You had better call your own memory TO
account because you do not recollect neee names
yourself.
Mr. Murray-rhis clerk has hundreds OF thousands of
dollars worth OF such papers pass through his HANDS and
be s always instructed 70 copy every mark faithfully
have recollection that the dram which Mr. Fuller
had the Enforcement Of the OF A. sio
bic A. Minor which are on this drat presented 10
u the duty Of my clerk 70 have made copy OF
all the endorsements, but he did not notice the MONOGRAM
Of "Nov 1884" at the foot Of the back Of the DRAFT,
did notice myself
this potDt Investigation adjourned TO III