Arkansas true Democrat., 1858-05-11

shali De further lupplles furnished or not. tf we do not mean to furnish them, there will no use for sending out the troops we have recently author- 'zed 10 be raised. If we intend to do SD we ought to do 1t as soon as possible.
 MT. JOHNSON, of Arkansas ask who- tner II We had the information alluded to b,, the Senator from Maine, is there any hon. tbat we can dispose of thewhole bill to-davp Doos the Senator from Virginia believe that it can he disposed of in one day? have no idea that if can. ' ''
 MT. HUNTER. I have no idea that it can can dispose of it so far as am concerned in one day have made up my mind. do not know, how long it will take
 MT. JOHNSON, of Arkansas, Does tho in formation called for relate to the entire hill or to very lew appropriations in the bill.
 Mir. FESSENDEN. It relates to the most important part of the bill and that is the an preparations for the army
 MT. HU INFER. The information called for Is copies for contracts male by the Secretary of ar Tn regard to transportation and subsistence l think It will be down to day. It certainly will De down before long, It is true it is not here now. '0'e
 Mr. JOHNSON, of Arkansas. Then tba in formation relates to one point imaoine that every gentleman here believes we shall not got through with this bill in one dav There is a great deal of the bill not affected bv this infor nation. Why not go on and dispose of those portions of the bill in regard to which there is no necessity for waiting for information? Those parts of the bill, presume, will take more than thls day to dispose of 1 do not see why we should not proceed at once to the consideration of those sections of the bill in regard to which information is called for on the Senator's obiec- ton and declaration that he wants further in- formation, they can be passed over to be taken up the next t!me the bill is considered Even II the information does not come until Monday Ii on that day the Senator had not time to ey. anime 1t, should, for one, vote and I suppose the other Senators would agree at once. that that particular section should be laid over until he had an opportunity to examine it.
 Mir. HUNTER. would not press the sor- ate for a vote to-day in regard to those items m which information is sought. If we dispose of all the other items before the information comes 1 shall be willing to lay the bill over till Mon- day. There are other matters besides that There are amendments that will lead to discus sion, probably. While am up will say that l am informed by the Secretary of War, that the information will probably be here this morning.
 MT. TRUMBULL. This bill has just been laid upon our tables since the motion was made by the Senator from Virginia I have not vet had time to examine it. do not know exactly how many millions of money are appropriated by it. but 1 believe some ten millions or more It seems 10 me very unreasonable that we should be forced to act on such bli before the members of the Senate can have an opportur,i ty even to read 1t over and see what it is. Itis known that very serious objections exist to this appropriation bill. It IS charged and, believe truly, though l have not had an opportunity to examine particularly with regard to it. that a large amount of these appropriations arises ont of contracts made without authority of law and to support an army which has been used wihout authority of law It is charged. and proven by the statutes, that the Executive has been employing the army of the United States for the last year, at great expense, n Kansas Territory, iljcgitmately, calling it posse, and Summoulng thousands of men. at great ex- penSe-whlch we are now called upon to pay from remote portion of the Union into in. territory of Kansas Besides, we have had an army wntering in the Rocky Mountains. which, believe, is called posse too without any object, as 1 can couceive in having that army there, for 1t would have been better to have started it this spring, from Fort Leaven worth
 do not propose now to argue this ouestior at all, but say It IS very extraordinary that all effort should be made to hurry through the Sen ate bll which we have not had time to read appropriatng many millions of monev-aImost as many millions as it took twenty-five wears ago to carry on the whole government--and cal off lofo opportunity to read it; a bill which was only re- ported yesterday, and has been laid on our ia. bles within the last ten minutes should like to have an opportunity to examine this bill l am not upon the committee on finance. have never read the bill over and should like to have an opportunity to look into it. think t is an unreasonable haste to call it up on Sa- 5ufday with view 10 action uuon it. hone the Senator from Virginia will let it co oyar until next week, so that we may have an on- portunity to look into it, and to ascertain whe ther these appropriations are based upon autho. rlty of law, pr whether itis auslrr,ation on tba part of the Executive of this country which has created this great deficiency. If it is. I think the Senate may pause, and we'll nause before 1t approprates such vast amount of money.
 Mir HUNTER. Mr. President I am suro do not desire to make any unreasonable reounst of the Senate; nor do l think am asking any- thing unreasonable when move to take mn tbis biIl for consideration to-day. It will be re- mcmbered that the Senate has determined to adjourn, finally, on the 7th of June. Now if we are to adjourn at that tme it will he i'm possible for us to transdct the necessary apnro- priation business unless we proceed more hastily than we have done heretofore, and use more diSpatch
 In regard to this bill; it is the same that has been debated tor so long a time in the House of Representatives, and copies of which have been sent here rom the iIouse of Representatives. and lyinS on our table for weeks. The only alteration recommended by the finance com lnitee iS, that we propose to strike ont two items wtilch were III the bill as 1t passed the House of representatives. In regard to the questions of Jaw which are suggested, they have been before the country for months. IL surely cannot be necessary to postpone the consideration of the defcency blll Tn order to give gentlemen further time 10 make up thelr minds upon such a Snb- lect. apprehend, when they come to examine 1T, It will not require the Senate long to deter
 nne whether the President has the bower to post the troops at his own discretion. for that is all that has been done so far.
 MT. PUGH. l wish to correct the Senator from Illinois. This bill was ordered to be print ed and laid on our tables, on the I2th day of April, and here is a copy of it-lhe House bin, as t passed the House of Representatives. with the clerks certificate. It was tread twice. and referred to the commtree on finance, and or iered to be printcd.'' I knew I had read a copy of 1t on the table of the Senate before It was printed on the 12th of April, and the only difference between this printed copy, and the copy that has just been lal upon our tables, consists In the brackets pnt around paragraphs which the committee on finance propose 10 strike out. There ;s no other difference
 MT. TRUMBULL. 1.-the Sena.orfrom Ohio has ascertained what the difference is, he has ascertained it since this debate commenced - The bill was not laid on our tables until after the motion of the Senator from Virginia was made at least not on my table; and how the Senator from Ohio knows what the difference is between the bills unless he has derived it from the statement made by the Senator from Virginia, do not know. l have not had time Il. l-.II-