New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-02-25
REMOVAL or QUARANTINE.
DISCUSSION BEFORE THE JOINT COMMIT
! TEE OF THE NEW-JERSEY LEGISLA-

jersey L.gislsure % whom vas referred the appica-
tion e the New-York nmissioners for the appoint
ucEt Of Commission to confer with them relative 20
the removal Of Quarantine to Sandy Hook, hell
meeting in the Assembly Chamber Mt Trenton, on
Tuesday evening, for the purpose OF hes rng the ar
guments Of counsel for and against The application
A majority of the members OF the Legislature, to-
geiher with the New-York Commissioners, Mess;s.
Hall Bovine and Benson, aud numerous delegation OF
citizens Of Trenton AMI other sections OF the state,
were present the ccason, illingtie Cnainber WIN
an audience VINO e4hlD!leu d sio7' N'6i'' Va '
TIE JOINT Committee was composed Of Senators
CEcbener of Hudson, Hendnckson OF Monmouth,
Brown of Ocean, and Assemblymen S4ters OF Ocean,
Walirg Of Monmouth, Van Horn Of Hudson, Kirk
O. S. Hal,ted esq, Of Newark, and exGov. Pen
nil gton appeared tie part of the NeT.York Com
u1ssioueis. and j. 7. Bradley esq, of Newark re.
ondei in bel aft of the peopl. Mon mouth County.
Senator G. V. Cick-ner, Chairman Of the Commit
tee p,esidrd, called the meeting 10 order about
oc'ock, after which considerable d ne was occupied
in the discusson OF a motion % limit each speaker 70
thirty minutes. 1t finally s-tled by granting
forty minutes the opening counsel aad thirty min
utrs each u those who followed.
Mr.. H. listed then commenced mis- speech by ealing
the ret Cf the New-YOrk Legislature appointing the
Commissioners in whose behalf he appearet and said
that discussing the question before the Committee,
lie should not alone talk SIS the counsel for the Go n
II lSslOEclS, but JeFftVmhn speaking - jersey
nS II upon subject of vital interest 10 tnem a. We'll
Us Their ueiglbOrs. The question had already been
widely discussed in w.Jersey, + in those dis
cushions lis merits had been grossly msrepresented
and te proposed, nearly az he might be able, to
re ent IL i'll the bglt Of truth am sOrn OF the preu-
0ices with which il had been surrounded. The New
Yuk CUmmh sioners did hot come 10 New-Jersey TO
ark her for the surrender Of any d. her nght5 or
priyil yes, &c ask for their state any exclusive
te uttits to tie detIlment Of Nen-Jersey but they
came under an act al their Legislature % ask for
sal portion of soil for Quarantine site, not for
the han Dor of New-York alone, but for New-jersey
too; they only ask for privilege that will be Of equal
benefit to both States. There was no truth or fair
nc q in the assertion that NewfOrk comes here to
take away any part of the soil or sovereignty OF New
jersey. The State Of New-lOrk, upon THIS pom,
had be- isrepreenie and misunderstood; she only
asks the COOPERATION of New Jersey in the establish
ment of joint Quarantine for the protection OF the
people of both States from the desolating hand of
contagLn. Ii would not do for New-Jersey 10 say
that she is not interested in this matter, for New
Yolk hss been doing Quarantine duty for
her for the last GO years. Inc speaker then refer
red othe great importance of the subject as question
If Lumenity involving the safety Of million and
half of peoDle subject to the visitation of pesteuce
10 an extent which has awakened not only NeEYork,
but the General Government TO the Importance OF re-
moving Quarantine. New-York was so thoroughly
IMPRESSED with the importance of this question: that
She was not dsheartencd with the refusal she received
from New-Jersey last year. Sue now comes again anu
respectfully asks that you will consider her propose
tons and there il nothing IN the memorial OF tue
New.York Commiss toner's that should meet with the
opposition Of Jerseynen The gent then spoke
of the CRY of % nuisance and pes'house that nad
been heard from portion OF the State ana said that
a nuisance was determined ~ Its location ana sur
roupdings There were spots where the most offensive
thing could not be defined nuisance That which
mig be u nuisance in Newiolk might not be nul-
RAJ ce in the Pine BaIens; and nuisance at staten
Island might not be one at Sandy Hook.
In speaking of the argument that had been used by
q few that New-Jersey might want this site for II
Quarantine for herself the speaker said that in the first
place, she had occasion for Quarantine except 10
Conjunction with NewYork; and, secondly, If she had,
sle could not occupy Sandy Hook for a Quarantine
or any ether purpose. The fee simple of that place
had been vested in the United States 1t was s1d by
the original propIetors to the Hartsh0rn iainy, anu
OF March H. 1916, the New-Jersey Legislature dis
tctly recognized this claim, enactng that the Jurs-
dicton Sandy Hook is hereby ceded TO the United
States for military purposes mus NeW'Jersey hau
welded her jurisdiction over this territory, 80 long
1t shall be used for public purposes, ana had no right
to appropriate ii for Quarantine purposes. II New
jersey was so selfish to refuse the place 20 New
Yok FOR Quarantine il not likely that the Gen
crsl Gnvrrnment would ever grant her the privilege
,f using il for that purpose. The speaker sad that
there as 10 dosbt that Easops dog IN the manger
had descendants living q. the present day but he
hoped tha, the citizens of New.Jersey would show
the world tnat they not Wiling 70 Eenne! Win
such u brute. 1t would seem that Sandy Hook had
been expressly desigI ed by the Almighty iora caran-
tine site and should be granted for tuat purpose.
Mr. Halsted concluded by submitting an act TO the
Committee which he wished presented 70 the Legisa-
tuIe for its approval and which he then read, pro-
ydipg for the appoint ment of Commission, 10 be
dominated by the Governor subject 70 the approvai
of the Senate, TO confer with the New-fork Com
missiOners, and receive any propositions they may
"nake to them concerning said Qusrantinei 10 re-
port whatever facts they may receive, and whatever
oIcusiOns they may REACH at the next session OF Inc
Legislatures aud providing that no action .; theirs
III hxr
Of the Legislature.
Mr. Badley followed in behalf OF those opposed 10
the appointment of the proposed Commissirn He COM
by saying that tie could not see any reason for
granting the petition Of the NewYork Commiss
He had vet to see that il demanded for eher the
h. slth or business ihteres. of New-l ork, and be
thought that before NewJersey surrendered any por
tim Of Der territory the reason Tor II should DE clearly
demonstrated. The Legislature had no right, upon
any slight Crounds TO surrender the jurisdiction that
it held as sacred trust, AMI New-Jersey was none
the LEES bound to protect Sandy Hook because II had
been ced.d 10 the General Government, and was not
thereby deprived of her jurisdiction IN the slightest
de gree. Tie State OF New York had no night 10 BUY
a loot of the soil of New-J srsey for any purpose-t
in opposition TO the law OF natinns-and, It she
TO buy, the deed would be as worthless as though
writ Ell in water. IL is not like u n1l selling por-
ticp Of his farm or hs house, in which he has abso-
lutte property, aha which he may dispose OF d. nj
pleasure keep at his will. This not mere mat
tel of dollars and cents il matter that belongs 40 the
glory aud dignny of the State Ii Lot 20 be weighed
by thirty sheckcs Of silver but II is to be ighed IN
the light Of wise sta'esmansli and high patriotism.
The gentleman thought there general considera
tons why there ought TO be clear and strong evidence
that there is coll Tor hs thing, before i is yielded.
Ii differs entirely from ces,ion of portion of terri
tory for the uses OF the United States The Uuited
States II the common government Of us all and as
sovereignty covering the whole country, has right
for public uses to tAke private properly anywhere
within the boundaries Oi tue Union. and there
foe the tuited States hal u perfect right to
cone into Monmouth County and buy the noethern
uont Of Sandy Hook of the lartshorn family and il