The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-03-19


Ausustus N. Smith, the rellers.
The preliminary examination OF Jacob H. Mots charged
with b. ing implicated in the extensive defAcision dis
scovered in the Union Bank, resumed yesterday
afternoon bors the Recorder Ex Judge Foo, and son ap
peared on behalf Of the directors Of the bank the Recor
der having ntated that they should bs represented oy
counsel.
Peter r. Kssan,, amer being sworn test,aei ss fol-
iows-I receiving teller Of the Union Bank aad have
been three years since july think during that time
Jacob Mott has kept account At tho Union Bank he
opened account in bis own name in 1865, think;
heard the other clerks say that; I do not know
that he had account In his own name when con-
pepced my duties receiving teller; after refreshing
my recollection think he bad not account in his own
name; do not know that Garrett Mota hal account
with the bank when commenced my duties; since jacob
Aots bAs commenced an ac ;ouns m h's sn neme ns
has made depoes; he made those deposits entered
them, from time 70 tme in tho deposit book; have suo
sequent compared those entries in he deposit book with
the entries ksp4by Brotherson the o. her defendant
@. Did you hnd the eotries in the ledger kept by
Brohersop correspond with those kept in your book
Ohjected by counsel for the defendant the ground
that the books speaking and not the witness The
objection withdrawn tor the present A. did not
Q. Wherein dd they dderP A BY false ENTREES OF de-
poss that did net appear in my book and by figure
put before the deposs and also by deposits thai ap
peared in my book ana were altered TO larger amount In
bis ledger.
Q We're those entries numerous frequent between
the time Of the commencement Of Motifs account down 70
discovery
.hcnd think hoee disasreens entries between the two
books occurred about four or Eve times month.
@ What old the aggregate amount Of these different
falee entries amount TOY A. About ia OOO
O. From what book does the oookkeeper post tho de-
poss INTO the ledger A. From the deposit ,ook.
you know when Jacob H. Mott opened account in his
own pamt2 A. do not, but think he commen led in
October, 1856.
Q. why DO you think so9 A. Because have examined
the books, hut have knowledge of my own; examined
my book with the ledger 70 make up this opnioo;
atpAA from In NJ
examined opened the lst Of January think; II
may have besn in February; examined three ledgers
and tour five deposit books; commenced from the tth
Of October 1866 down to the time; did not
anime any otner sccoupts but those OF j. H. Mott IN the
leesers IRON 70 NJ made TINS exa%non shaa non "a A. J,
to day and DID not tell 10 make exam nation o. any
other account was not directed before this morning 70
make any OF the books; do not know that
there any accounts altered in the ledger besides
sett's end bavo not been instructed 10 examine the
books to SEQ whether that Is 20 or not an not positive
that all the moneys deposited by Mr. Mot, during that
time, credited in the ledger, because the eokkee
may have made a mIske-but positive tho deposits
were credited in my book since have be, second teller
commenced acting second teller in July, 1885, about
years ago. my book showed all the moneys deposited
in that bank by Individual depoehors ell those entries
made in that book IN my handwriting except ono or
two somerm.s these entries were made BY me when tho
depoets made. and sometimes not when an busy
sometimes tho tickets in front OF my deek and
when get tine enter them In the deposit book; one OF
tbose notes abstraced would not detcc. II until
balanced the cash beck, but would omit 10 enter III
would HDa out at night that the cash was over and the
tcke oet would send roupd TO the dea and In
auye about It. have known instance Of this
bind 10 happen wbie have been in the bank; nle the
tickets ana put them away have not examined those
tho entries made in the iedgers examined from
to day all made In the handwrt OF Mr.
Brohepon sometimes be got different people 70 post for
him; sometimes the general assstaut and other book-
keeper.
O. Hew often s II the custom Union Bank. II ever
to balance the accounts Of s cusomerrY There no
regular habit about IT, the books balanced whenever
the bookkeeper chooses generally every three months
do not know Of my own knowledge that any balances
furnished TO the dealers Of that bank never
in any other bank Of this city except ths Union Bank
O Have ever furnished the outsiders, you call
them, with Statements OF their aocountsS A. newer
knew il 70 be done unless the book balanced, and
then the dealer could see by the psssbook AZ the balance
| was carried down.
Had you any rule in the Union Bank TO furnish the
the outside dealer st any particular time tho balance
bis passbooks A. No, not that am aware Of my assis
assistant during the whole timc second teller
there; sessrs Pearson, Rogers Taylor have acted in
that capacity, think the third teller Mr. Grant, would
receive the deposits; am not aware thst any
others. except thoec have named received deposits
but viii say positively that other person Did thes,
gentlemen wouio act In this capacity when out
think have not been absent from tho bank than
three weeks during the last two Year,; when
RUE bank that The third teller shall my place
and know that he ofcaied in my Absence because his
no other handwriting my except four gentle
becsuso did not examine them 70 see; while
in ne bank slwsys received the deposits. would go oq,
Dot leave during the entire month, a. | dined
at home; while ] was present at my desk tho
| note teller would sometimes assist me when
there was n long string OF tickets was very
| seldom was assisted by ethers when At tho desk;
average deposits made that bank years ago were
two iops since the last eight months they
have averaged about million we do not run up NJ high
as three mlons ofeD those ssssare put the slips Of
the separate banks together and add tho amounts and
sometimes make entries 10 my book made the exanaa
ton Of the books this morning IN Laf an hour do not
know ibe handwriting of all the several entries made In
the ledger.
Q. How much money was paid out by ,ha, bank in
depost made de- by Mr. Eo,t in the rnion BANK vas on on
March s. was Seoo $500; thbk 5000, but viii
cay positively say that vas not 5000 sec.use look
ed at today am sure was 5000 or $500 toe amount
OF bis deposit at that time Is matter OF recollection;
cannot tell the amount OF any deposit without
have q particular deposits rs Obtained by resc
renee 10 the tickets or book; II the books
rect A. have no rscosos Of the o. psreo,
deposits made by Mot or any other person.
Q 10 you know Of any outside dealer with the bank
whose balance has been furnsbed hin7 A I do not
Q How many boohheepers he'd you3 A. One general
bcokkeeper three individual and assistant ooskeep
er; cannot tell whether all the entries made In tho
ledgere made by thcee four men.
10 you know Of any outside dealer ever leaving bis
her book INC ether Day III. dealer, arc pns IN ,her
books nov every day Tor the last week or t~o the deal
ers have handed in their books moro frequently than
pcuded in the Iedgers @ 70 scpeW 70 be move soxous
70 have pem written up than others; previous 70 two
cannot Tell the number as have no psrscui~ rnoslsssc
sbou, II.
What has been Mr. Hoas sene,sl character previous
70 the departure Of Mr. Brotherson rom the bsnh A.
do not know; never heard any one speak 6 him
q 80 far ~ you know has IL been good ~ any
other dealer 10 your banhf A. Yes, cir.
Q. Do you know bow the capital OF the bank stAnds7
A. know thst they have lost t6 600, but do NO, know
h4 they have lost nyihng Tor e last t~o years e1oep,
nom tho booky
Re direct exanlinauon-I did NOT examine Al The 90
counts Of sc'.s, bvs only certain ones 50 far ex
amned did not find any actual devpis omitted; did
not know from, the exan nation made ha all the fra iu
lent deposit were made in Broths rsons hand sriung
O. Does not the pass book when wrueu up show
the account each side7 A. Yes, cir; u was the
duty of my assistants 70 asaIss in making 90
my cash sseort be money and and the sums; somemes
nv assistants my absence would take the deposits and
lay them down uptl came In, whom would enter them
on my return.
Augustus ~ smith was recalled and tsstiaed a. fol-
owsQ Have you discovered In any OF these fraudulent
entries In Motifs account any other Handwriting th>n thai
Of Bothersonsi Tothe best OF my hnowledge, s~eu