The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1858-09-30

On the 10Th, Judge DOUGLAS and Mr..
LINCOLN, had their fourth joint discussion at
Jonesboro, in Southern Illinois, or Egypt.
The Chicago Times, 10 publishing the
speeches. says;
Notwithstanding the fact that thousands
Of farmers and others were engaged else.
where, a, the State Fair, the attendance was
very large. The number may be safely es-
timated at FIVE Thousand persons, In which
vast body Of men there were probably about
sixty Republicans and fifteen Danites. The
rest Of the crowd were Democrats. Ia
Southern Illinois the supporters OF Lincoln
and negro equality are in the proportion Of
twelve TO thousand for Douglas and Dem.
ocracy. While the Dantcs in Dougberty's
own town Of .Ioncsboro do not exceed alto
gethcr twenty-five. and In the surrounding
counties do not average five to "A county.
The enthusiasm Of the people throughout
Middle, Eastern. Western ard Southern Hi
nois IN behalf Of Douglas in intense there
IL but one sentiment, one feeling, uDd there
IL but purpose, which purpose IA TO re-elect
him 10 the Senate where be has 80 ably and
vigorously defended the constitution and the
Union, has 80 long and successfully served
Illinois, and has won Tor himself aud the
State such mpcrishable ren0wn.
LIScors, as usual, was kept On the deien.
sivc, in sustaining his opposition TO the
bred Scott decision, his theory that the
institutions Of all the States must be uni
form, and the bargain between him and
TpuMBuLL, by which they were both To re.
ceivc, M u reward for betrayiDg the Demo
cratic aud old Wing parties, seats in the
u. \. Senate.
The following ia the way LIscoI.s com.
mcnces his speeches in Southern Illinois:
There ARE very many Of the principles
that Judge Douglas has stated that ] cor
daily approve, and there need be no contro-
versy over them. In No far IA Judge Doug
las has insisted that oil the States Of the
Union have a right TO do exactly us they
plcas about their domestic regulations and
ins,itul i0nH, including The question Of sla
very, ! agree with Judge Douglas, and yet
he places me wrong IN spite oi oil that !
can tell him. Again and again have cx.
pressed my views upon this subject have
made great many speeches. some Of which
have been printed. and state without hest
tation, that it will be- utterly impossible 10
read anything that ! have ever put IN print
that will show anything TO the contrary. !
hold m, self under the obligation 10 allow
the people of other Statos--and to allow all
the States to do Us they please | deny
that have any inclination to Interfere with
them even If there were no constitutional OBJ
struction aud | say again TIM, il IL wrong
to Say that entertain opinions other than
thcG.
This IL rather "caying in" on LINCOLN =
positions in Northern Illinois.
We extract the following from Judge
DouGLAs' speech
Mr. Lincoln attempts To cover up and
get over his abolltionlsn by telling you that
he was raised u lit east Of you tlaughter)
beyond the Wabash in Indiana. and he
thinks that makes mighty sound and good
man oi HIM On all these questions. do not
know that the place where a mnn is born or
raised has much 10 do with his political
principles The worst aboltionisis have
ever known in Illinois have been mcn who
have sold their slaves in Alabama and Ken
lucky. and have come here and turued abo
itonlsts Wills, spending the money 60, Tor
the negroes they sold that's 20, and laugh
teri, and ,ln not know that an aboli,lonlst
from Indiana or Kentucky ought to have
any more credit because he WAS born aud
raised among Shareholders tNot bit. not
as much, Ncl ! do not know that native
Of Kentucky IL more excusabe because,
raised among slaves, his father aud mother
having owned slaves, he comes 10 Illinois,
turns nbo l,lonlst, and ISLANDERS the graves
Of his father aud mother. and hf,athc-
curses upon the institutions under which h.
was born, and his father and mother bred.
True | was no, born ont wtS, her.
was born away down in Yankee land
good was born IN a valley IL Vermont
tall right with thc bigh mountains around
me. love the old green mountains and
valleys ol Vermont. where ! was born aud
whcrc played IN my chlIdhoHl. went
up e. visit th,m Some seven or cight years
ago. for the tiT,t time Tor twenty odd years.
When got There they treated mc.,rry
kindly They invited me TO the commcno-
mcnI OF their col,gv, placed me ou the stats
with their distinguished guests. and coulcrr
"a upon me the dcgrcc vi L. |. u. IN latin,
doctor OF laws the same "a ,h,y did On
old Hickory, at Cambridge, many years
ago, aud give YOU my word aud honor |
understood jus, as much Of the latin as he
did. daughter Nhn they got through
comforting the honorary degree, they called
upon me lor speech aud %, up with my
heart iull and swelling with gratitude Tor
their kiuducsS, and ! said to them, My
friends, Vermont Is the must glorious >pot
IN the face of the globe for man TO hc
born IN. p,orli,d, be- cmgra,cs when he is
very young. (tproarious shouts ot laugh,
ter
cmgratcd when was very young, |
came on, here when was u boy, and found
my miud lib,rall1"i and my opinions cnlarg
al Wh.n I o., p,, ,k,.., hrn.l psntrt,a N d, b.