Cleveland morning leader. [volume] (Cleveland [Ohio]) 1854-1865, 1858-10-19

In the sense In which he argues, nsysr useo
it but will tell you what have said and
what do not hesitate to repeat o-day.
have said that as Democrats believe that deeis-
ion TO be ccrrect and that the extension oil
slavery is affirmed in the National Consutu-
ton, they are bound to support 1t as sucn )
and will tell you here that General Jackson
once said each man was hound to support the /
Constitution las he understood it." Now, /
JUDGE Douglas understands the Constitution |
according to the Dred Scott decision, and he Is
bound to support it he understands 1t
ICheers.1 l understand it another way, and
therefore am bound to support it in the way
in which understand it. prolonged applause
And as Judge Douglas believes that decision
TO be correct, will re-make that argument II
/ have time TO do so. Let me talk 10 some
gentleman down there among you who looks
me in the face We will say you are mem
ber of the Territorial Legislature, and
ike Judge Douglas, you believe that the
right to take and hold slaves there IS 8
constitutional right. The first thing you do
is to slrear you lcH support the Constitution and
all rights guaranteed therein; that you will,
whenever YOU neighbor needs your legislation
10 support his constitutional rights, not with
hold that legislation. IfyOu withhold that ne
cessary legislation for the support of the Con
stitution and constitutional rights, do you not
commit perjury lCries of'Yes y ask every
sensible man, if that is not sOr t''Yes, YES
That's a fact"l That is undoubtedly just so,
sav what YOU please Now that is precisely
what Judge Douglas says, that this is a consti-
tutional right Does the Judge mean to say that
the Territorial Legislature in legislating may BY
withholding necessary laws, or by passing un-
friendly laws, REllfy thai Constitutional Tlghf'
Does he mean to say that Does he mean 70 lg-
more the proposition so long known and well es-
tabIished in the law, that what you cannot do
directly, you cannot do indirectly! Does ne
mean that The truth about the matter is this;
Judge Douglas has sung PRans to his Popular
Sovereignty" doctrine until his Supreme Court
cooperating with him has Sguatted his Squatter
Sovereignty out. [Uproarous laughter and ap-
plause But he will keep up this species OF
Lumbuggery about Squatter Sovereignty. lie
has at last invented this sort OF dO-nOthlng Sore
/ reignfy-Irenewed laughterl-that the people
may exclude slavery by sort Of Sovereignty"
that is exercised by doing nothing at all lCOn-
tnued laugh hteT Is not that running his Pop
ular Sovereignty down awiullyl Laughter +
Has it not got down as thin as the hOmeoPath-
ic soup that was made by boiling the shadow OF
a pigeon that had starved to death! Roars OF
laughter and eheeringl But at last, when 1t Is
brought to the test of close reasoning, there IS
not even that thin deeoction Of it left. tits a
presumption impossible in the domain of thot.
Il is precisely no other than the putting Of that
most unphilosOphical proposition, that two boz
dies may occupy the same space at the same
time The Dred Scott decision covers the whole
ground, and while it occupies it, there Is no
room even for the shadow of starved pigeon
I to occupy the same ground. lGreat cheering
and laughter.l
A voice, on the pIatfOrm-"Your time is al
most out" loud cries of "GO on, go on
7 "We'l listen all day."l
After discussing several personal matters be-
tween himself and Mr. Douglas, Mr.. Lincoln
then concluded:
Then he wants to know why / wont with
draw the change in regard TO a conspiracy to
make slavery national, as he has Withdrawn the
: one he has made. May it please his worship
, | will withdraw II Icheh Il IS pTO1eh on me as
; tiai toas prored on him. LShouts Of applause
and laughter / will add little more than
, that. l will withdraw it whenever q reasonable
man shall be brought to believe that the charge
is not true. [Renewed applause.l have ask
/ ed Judge Douglas attention to certain matters
of fact tending to prove the charge Of consPir-
acy to nationaliEe slavery, and he says he con
, vinees me that this was all untrue because Bu-
r chanan was not in the country at that time, and
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into the Supreme Court and he says that
! say the Democratic owners Of Dred Scott got
/ up the case / never did say that [Applause
defy Judge Douglas to show that ! ever said
so for nerer uttered IT, Zone Of Mr.. Douglas
! reporters gesticulated affirmatively at Mr. Lin
! coin l don't care if your hireling does say
f did, tell you myself that | never said the
/ "DemOeratie' Otrners Of Dred Scott got up The
case Tremendous enthusiasm have new
, er pretended to know whether Dred SCOTS
/ owners were Democrats, or Abohhonists, or
Free Soilers, or Border Ruffians / have said
that there is evidence about the case tending TO
, show that it was 4 made up case, for the pur-
, pose of getting that decision. ! have said that
+ that evidence was very strong in the fact that
when Dred Scott was declared to be a slave, the
owner of him made him free, showing that be
had had the case tried and the question settled
for as much use as could be made Of that decis
ion he cared nothing about the property thus
declared TO be his by that decision. Enthusi-
astic applause But my time is out and / can
say no more.
As Mr.. Lincoln retired, deafeDing cheer
went up that was continued with unabated en-
thusasm for some minutes