New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-01-30


plank presented petition signed BY four hundred up
towDers in favor OF the removal
A Mr.. BEECH, who profe,sed 10 have no interest
whateyef at stake 10 this movement made q long
speech in favor Of the removal. He quoted largely
from The report Of the Harbor Commissioners 70 .aow
that the steamboats, damaged the harbor by throwing
ashes overheard endangered liie and kept merchant
ships from the wbaryes. Hi argument contained
nothing that had not been presented before over and
over again.
No one else appearing to favor the project the
Committee called tor the opposition.
Mr.. JAMES KELLY of the Fourth Ward. responded.
lie SAID his interests were mainly up town yet he did
not think the change proposed would br heaefcial to
that part Of the city, II thought that the removal
u these boats TO the upper part Of the c,ty would
benefit property; but he had recently been startled
by discovering that down town property was far less
renuneratve than property up town. This fact he
tabshed by citing numerous cases in which stores in
Cedar street and similar streets had declined 10 rental
value more than one-half within four or FIVE years,
while uptown property had nearly doubled in value.
The removal of these boats to the points proposed
would be highly injurious to commerce. To cart
goods and produce from those points down town for
transshipment would cost more than the whole freight
from this city to Boston or ALBANY. Flour that now
costs three shilings load to cart from Newtons boats
to the ships for foreign ports, or the Sound ooa's
would cost nine shilngs load at least Tor carriage II
this change is effected The great bulk OF the pack
ages and passengers by the North River ana SOUND
boats went below Duane street, or were transshppeu
to other boats below Couriands street ne
to endeavor TO induce the Sound boats to lana
at their wharves instead Of in this city, an1 he couid
assure the Committee that under no circumstance
would they move up town. IL dispossessed OF their
present landing places they would go to Brooklyn or
Jersey City. 1t absurd to assert that the three
Sound steamers passing day endangered life on the
East River. Did not tow boats and ships DO lar more
damage in proportion than they And then he
would direct the attention Of the Committee to
another fact-the relative importance OF the steam
boat and shipping interests Where wopi1 me amps
get their freights, and where would their imports 20
Il there was no internal trade by means of steam
boats A ship of 800 tuns will require TO use a
wharf 25 days TO unload and load; in that time of
these steamboats, will bring here and carry off 30 900
to CO. 600 tuns of goods. He called attention TO the
fact that the Cunard steamers driven from the
East River to Jersey City, and so would these boats
be, if this movement was persevered IN. Business did
not need to be regulated it would regulate itself.
And any attempt at this time more especially to disar
range business would only be attended with the most
unfortunate results.
Mr.. ISAAC NEWTON then BOT up. He said in sub
stance that lie not, like MI Beach uninterested,
for he had large interests at stake, both as citizen
and as a property-owner. He had grown up with the
city and It's commerce, and felt not only an interest
been in business in this citfor the past twenty in his
present business He engaged in the carrying OF
passengers and freight to and from the great West,
and for this business there were many competitors.
The Pennsylvania Central, the Baltimore ana Ohio,
and other lines, if this removal should take place,
would absorb all of his business; for be it known
that the difference Of cent in the cost OF carriage
on 100 lbs. of freight would take the business away
from him and give il to them. Already prices were
lower than they ought TO be, through competition.
The change would involve an additional ak cents
charge on every 100 lbs. Of freight for carriage, and
ruin his business. IL the removal made his boats
were not worth dollar. He would not complain il
all Of the boats-the Camden and Amboy, the New
York Central and the Southern steamers-were re-
moved, but would go along with them lie decidedly
objected, however, to having his business destroyed
to build up theirs. Mr.. Newton then produced a
copy of the Corporation Map ofthe North River water
front, showing IN feet the proportion Of space occu,
pied by shipping the various steamboat landings anu
market boats, as follows:
Betwe.n Pisys No. l and a. both included
Steamboats, &c. between this City ana New Jersey Perm
sylysnia and Maryland 5s7S for face of Sel5
Fall River Sound Steamers and Prop-hes 2iS
European Steamship 1 1SS
Southern Steamships o5yo
shipping 80
North River eamboat.-Abany and Troy.......... 1850
Market Boats and Floating Hucksers 2lS
Church
ro,., $3.50
Bttsecn Picr. No. Is and south SIDE Of 10 IS nn,r
New Jersey Steamers to Long Branch keyport Sc 20
HUDSON River STEAMBOATS, to Poughke epse Zoo
New. York and Erie Railroad SSio
Crane, and Repairing Vessels ipo
Ice Boats. "a
Goa Depot 'Io1
d a0U
Dumping Whaves y
Ferry and Delaware and Ksri,an Tcs,........... SEQ
Oyster Floating 9eE
WOOD Brick ard Oyster vessels ond Boats ...it.. lss
River County Market Barge Floating Dcpos and Huck
sters Joy
Betvscn Mort, Side Of Pers Nos. 4S aud ST. both 'nanded
sprrE Mood and oyster Vessels and IA.
t,uy, and Delaware and Rarltan SS
Foreign Steamstips 90
Aitspy lug Steamer ifio
Coal Boats L e
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
First Scetion--Sessoing 1922
Sound steamers.'''.''''''''''' : ~
n j.. Penn. and Msyl,n 80. 5615-is,56o
Not pertaining 70 commerce, .....'...... 4,8g0
Total. ...........,...,,."::..21' $50
Second Section. Ships In trade.......,.'. 3!l9
EeTYorL and Erie Railroad. o9t5
EewJersey steamers. ........." LOIS 5000
Not pertaining 20 commerce.. b,81l-lksil
Third Sec~n.--Sesgoing aoso "a.
Albany tugs...........'''''''' zflo- fIvo
No, pertaining commerce. ............ CPS!
T..d............................. 81
ATloS.-Sea going vessels.
Sound steamers. 2+9
n y and Erie Railroad. go. 2Si5
N J.. Penn. aud Maryland -. GOO
Albany tug steamers .......... <il5-5l I5i
No: pertaining to commerce '.l7s9i
TotA............,.... fb
Mr.. NEwros resumed; There is more wharfage
room devoted 70 huckstering and forestaing down
town on the North and East Rivers than would be re-
quired to accommodate all our commerce. From Pier
No Is East River 10 COrlers Hook more than half
the space is not devoted to commercial purposes. He
knew that if the Common Council would carefully
anime the piers, remove all the projections making
all Of the piers nearly uniform possible, and give
the waterfront TO commerce instead of to hucksters,
there would be no complaint OF want of room. He,
however as citizen who lived in the city, and for
twenty years past had paid ont over $780, 900 year
10 aborers in the city, and heavy taxes to support the
q oh;oDt.d L. heiLr thrust In make