New-York daily tribune., 1858-03-23
people. We are tod tbs, ther. Are lxg. sunber

mission that it is not an expression Cf the vii Of the
PEOPLE. Where Is your right to force Constitution on
an unwilling people
Mr. STUART here made an appeal 10 tte House 70
preserve order.
MIR. DOUGLAS resumed-On the .2lst Of Deem.
ber struggle took place between tso par lies
IN the Territory. 1t the faire election and yet,
the Leg' leiure came together and told you the L.
compton Constitution was not the will o. the people. .snd
te Douglas) would hazard the prediction, that If ou
ask Governor Denver to-day he will tel you Il IL
mockeiy and delusion. Consult the prl books the
high Government officials in the Territory private
citizens, and they will al tell YOU Il Goes not embody
the will OF the people. Hence they deoy Jour right
to make the orgaIic Law, and If II becomes 20, 1t
VIII be by the act Of Congress and not By tue wll
OF the people. We are tod that the Constitution uay
be changed that il is small matter-but the priIel-
pie is the same
Mr. STUART again appealed 10 the President to
send an ficer up to keep quiet in the galleries
MI DOUGLAS resuued-The piirciple is the ssr,e
WHEN YOU set example Il violating tie principles
Of free Govern ment for day as fCT yea, and give
pTecedents to unscrupuCus meu Further, II lie sad
the pee pie may change their Constitution when they
wil-that they have 10 night TO tie ther own HANDS
until lS6f-hc did not agree that the people csrrot
tie their own hands. If tie Constitution is social
compact not only have they rgtt but IT VIE that
they should have stability aud that fundaehtal
law should not be liable TO every Illustration anc pas
SION. He held il fair Interpretation that whea II
prescribed ole mode Of change 1t preciuded every
other mode, and could MT be altered III 1901,
and he held it wise provision, aad thouglt
that tie people WAS rot ft for sel',Sov-
ernneut who could not bind themselves by q
Constitution for ten years He did not object 10
il because il bound them TIL 1861, II 1t Is the VIII
the people, and if 1t s not you have no rlgnt to Dina
them by it for single hour. Mhat right mas Con'
oross 10 snnul the provisions prohibiting no change
I'M 1861 If Congress change one clause, It may
aLpu or alter another and another, till the whole 10
strument be subveited. 1ou lave no right TO snIu,
to alter, to constfue it. Lay not your saenllg'ou'
:. l., tba "a Qlf AND pa1 H.
well TO State rights and State sovereignty when
Congress undertakes to construe State Ccnstutiocs
he States will then become provinces with no
indepenGence than their couuties now. Referring to
the majority report he said the Chairman of the Ter
rtoria Committee found a clause in the bill Of rights
which he thinks Overrides provision IL the COnstu-
tution The bill Of rights says that the people
have the right to change their Constitution a. the
people themselves may determine. There are two
modes of changing their Constitution. One is peace
tul, the other revolutionary. IT, in the progress OF
peaceful change you encounter opposition it becomes
volutiOn and rebclnOn il you fail or you succeed
O successfu revolution. How then could you assent
to the Presidents suggestion with reference to this
clause
Mr. HAMMOND here asked why Congress has no
right to cUnstIu a constitution"
Mr.. DOUGLAS repeated that if Congress exercised
the right to look into State Constitutions this
meut becomes d consolidated Government, AL Empire
with provinces and independencies, but to be
a federation of sovereign States. Turning TO Mr
u
las said he was at loss 70 know what his freud from
Ohio me ant by that amendment. Who ever pretended
that anything could be put in the act Of admission
WHAT legal effect would tlis amer dment have II
adopted ! None at all. He Douglas objected to
putting in any clause that expresses any opinion in
reference to any provision in tie Constitution. Sup
pose the Senator from New-York (Seward) was to
put in q clause that nothing herein should be con-
etrued as sanctioning Slavery, would Southern men
not object to it because il had no iegsl effect
He protested against Congress interfering by express
ing any opinion upon this or that clause Of tue Cos
stutiOn. II it be the will of the people OF Kansas
you have no right TO touch them. Mr. Douglas tlen
came back to toe que stioD Ought We to admit X an
sas with this Constitution Is the evidence satsfa,
tory that 1t is the peoples act aud deed that they
have had free expression Of opinion He thought
not lie would protest against that special pleading
Il at would seem by technicaltes to fix Constitution
on the people of State. Reverse tue case. Would
Southern men, if Convention Of F.ee-SOers should
make Constitution, and allow you to vote for i, and
the to attempt to force ttat Abolition CoLs alton
On s,svehoding people ag6iI 2, thei- will, CCld you
Southern gentlemen have submitted to such an out
rage!
Mir HAMMOND IS. C.)-If we, as sa, eho' dcrs
had refrsined from yotirg we would have subntec
until il was changed in the due forms OF lay.
Several S. nators-That 20 exact ,.
Mr.. DOUGLAS-The Senator assumes what IL not
iii evidence
Mr. HAMMOND-Iti- il universally atated.
Mr. TOOMBS-Thais not the rue state o the
matter.
Mr.. DOUGLAS retOlted that it wss all as stated
He regarded the principle involved vital az funda
mental and its violation destbbow to States Rights
ard SOyertig Moreover, said he, if YOU ad Lit
Kansas under the Lecompton Constitution you admit
also her frauc uent Government. The false returns
are proved at Delaware Crossings KckapOo Shawnee 4
and elsewhere, showing three thousand fraudulent
votes. The Senate will remember the effort be made
to procure an investigation into the alleged frauds.
Can any man tell whether admitting with this
Constitution men who a. tne election threw these
dplap h,x h,-
tie popular yOtel One DAY il wasths runor another
that, ard on alter ate.y ike chil!s sEd fever He
bcre quoted from Mr.. Calhouns letter il yesterdays
star, saving that he thinks the Delaware Cross
ings give the Legislature TO the Free. State
Ii was of Importance what Nj Calhoun
thought, but the facts are import ant, as
On them depend TIE integrity OF the vote.
A. Nj. Calhoun is absent is II factory f0r ths
deposed President to address letter to the editor OF
The Star stating his private opinion. He would like
to know wbat the Presidents pro TEN opnion is. and
whether the President pro tenn has not already is led
the certificates 10 Pro Slavery officers, while Mr.. Cal
bouns opinion is that the Free-State party have it
htIe s this President pro tenn Is he, too iugi.
tive from Justice and if he is, what &C Inclusion have
the majority of the Committee Of Seven arrived at
Can not get the President pro te n al;o to write
letter to The Star or the Committee Of Seven Were
ii not for the Slavery question would there be anyObec
ton TO sen0 this Con stt uton back He Dougas would
seuo II back and ne would say to his Southern friends
that he would act this question irrespective of the
e"'JVNN VI slavery, PROVIDED III Wcrb submitted 10 u
fan vote with mt forgery, no fraud, cOnceslment,
and wond abide by the result. Yet another point he
ralely rcitued TO tie course Of newspaper but the
course t Ihc ~ aSL'agtoH LAlOn is eXtraorduaiy
that retds him out the Democratic patty and keens
reading hlm out AID ~ il il not enough il reads
him out again with the words of reneg gade &c. and
otltr polite terms. lie had Nindcation to make
oi his course to The Washington Uaio7 His course
for 20 years shows ais attachment 20 principle.
But the publkher of The Jniop has personal
grievances, VIXEN he was nomin sted for publ,
printer He (Douglasl declared TO yots for hun and
since then there have these yindiclive attacks
Nj DnnCas lcre ed the editorial Of The 21th NnYe