New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-03-11

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a people, sDd the soy 1rsign act of people. They
moved 10 different sp Iere. and on different plains aud
could not come N c. intact at all without usurpshon
one part or tn'- other 1t not competent for
the LecOmpton constitution 10 overurn The Terrific
rial Governme' and set up Government in place Of
IT, because I'd ~ Constitution, until acknowledged BY
Congress, a. nothing; was not IN being. IL could
well 0roef Ire people Of Kansas TO pas upon II; Il
could DE- whatever was necessary 70 perfect that Con-
sutu'on but nothing beyond that, until Congress had
agreed to accept Il. In the mean time the Territorial
Government, Government dd interim, VISA entitled
20 exercise oil the sway the Territory that teyer
had been entitled 70. The Of assuming, as the
Senator did that the Convention the creature of
the Territorial Government has led him into the diff
Guilty and confusion Of uni'lDg and disunit!ng these
two Governments according may suit his argument.
There is DO Government in the Convention unit amer
the adoption by Congress OF IT. Constitutions ana there
is no interference at any time WITH the lerrtorisl
Legislature, as there is no actual power 10 the lei-
tors Legislature 10 call Convention, but what
s derived from usage and permission, and by an
enabling act sometimes from Congress.
EVERYTHING FRAUDULENT IN hNsts.
IL the Senator from Illinois, whom regard as tue
AK Telamen Of this debate does not press the ques-
ton OF frauds shall have little or nothing 70 say
about that The whole history Of Kansas IS disgu--
ing from the beginning 10 the end nave AVOID
ed reading il ms much as could. Had oeen a sen
ator before should have felt il my duty perhaps ID
have done 20; but cot expecting TO be one am gnO
rant fortunately, in great measure of detail; and
was glad 10 hear the acknowledgement Of the Senator
from Illinois, since II excuses me from the duty OF e1-
aiming il.
! hear, on the other side Of the chamber grelt
deal said about gigantic and stupendos frauds; and
the Senator from NewYOrk yesterday, in portraylDg
the character of his party and the opposite one, lad
the whole of those frauds upon the ProSayery party
To listen 10 him you would have supposed that the
regiments Of emgrants recruited in the purieus OF the
great cities Of the North, end sent out, armed and
equipped with Sharps rifles and bowie. knives and re-
vOlvers 10 conquer for freedom in Kansas, stood by
meek saints innocent as doves, and humble as lambs
brought up TO the sacrifice. Think OF them: General
Lanes lambs, They remind one OF Colonel Kirk
lambs, TO whom they have family resemblance. l
presume that there frauds and that there were
frauds they were equally great all sides and that
any investigation into them this floor, by COM
mission, would end in nothing but INJECTING almost un-
endurabe disgrace on the United States.
SLAVERY THE REAL SUBJECT.
But, Sir the true object of the discussion on the
other tide Of the Chamber, il to aga.e the question
of Slavery. ] have very great doubts whether the
leaders OH the other side of the House really wish TO
defeat this bill. / think they would consider It
vastly greater victory to crush out the Democratic
party in the North, and destroy the leaders Of the
kansas-Nebraska bill; and ! an not sure that they
have not brought about this imbrVgiO for the very
purpose. How strange is it that they tell us that
year after year the majority in Kansas is beaten at
the polls They have always had majority, but
they always get beaten How could that be 1t
does aeem from the most reliable sources Of infOrma
ton that they have ma ority, and have had ma
joity for some time. Why has not this majority c)me
forward and taken possession OF the Government, and
made Free-Stste Constitution, and brought il here
We should all have voted for its admission cheerfuy.
There can be but If they had brought as
was generally supposed at the time the Kansas
Nebraska act was passed would be the case, Free
State Constitution here, there would have been no
difficulty among the Northern Democrats; they would
have been sustained by their people The statement
made by some of them, as understood, that the act
was good Free-State act would have been verified
and the Northern Democratic party would have been
sustained but its coming here aiSlave Sta.e it s said
will kill that patty, and that is the they have
reirained from going to the polls; that is the reason
they have refra;ued from aking it Free State when
they had the power. They intend to make it a Free
State as soon they have effected that purpose of
destroying the Democratic party OF the North, and
their true reason here is to agitate Slavery For
one am not disposed to discuss that question here
in any abstract form. think the time has gone by for
that. Our minds are all made up. ! am willing TO
discuss itand that is the way it should be and must
be discussed-as practical thing, thing that s
and is TO be- and to discuss its effects upon po
tcal institutions, and TO ascertain how long those
political institutions will hold together under its effects
The Senator from New-York entered very fairly
into this field yesterday. was surprised the other
day, when he so openly said the battle had been
fought and won. Although | knew, and had long
known il to be true surprised to hear him say
So thought that ne had been entrapped into hasy
expression by the sharp rebukes Of the Senator from
New. Hampshire and am glad TO see that yesterday
he has come out and shown that it is matured pro
lect Of his that these words mean all that thought
quered PROVINCE and that the North intends to rule it,
He said that il their intention to take tins Gov
eminent from unjust and uniaithful hands and place
it in Just and faithful hands; that it was their nten
ton 10 consecrate all the Territories of the Union to
Free Labor; and that to effect their purposes, they
intend to reconstruct the Supreme Court
SOUTHERN GOOD FAITH.
Yesterday the Senator said, Suppose we admit
" Kansas with the Lecompton Constitution: what
guarantees are there that Congress will not again
interfere with the affairs Of Kansas % meaning,
suppose that if she abolished Slavery, what guaran
tee there was that Congress would not force it upon
her again Sir, so far OF the South are con-
cerned, you have, at least, the guarantee of good
faith that has been violated. But what guaran-
tee have We when YOU have this Government IN your
possession in all its departments even II we submit
quietly 10 what the Senator exhorts TO submit to
the concentration of Slavery in its present territory,
and even to the reconstruction of the Supreme Court
that YOU will not plunder us with tariffs; that you
will not bankrupt us with internal improvements and
bounties Oh FISH; that you Will not restrain us with
navigation lava, and other laws impeding the tacii-
ties of transportation to Southern producer What
guarantee have We that you will not create a new
bank and concentrate all the nancesof this country
at the North, where already, for the want of direct
trade and proper system OF banking in the South,
they are ruinOusly concentrated Nay, Sir what
guarantee have we that You Will not emancipate our
slaves, or, al least, make the attempt? We cannot
rely on your faith when you have the power. Ii has
been always broken whenever pledged.
THE SEPARATE SOUTHERN REPI BIC.
Now Sir a. i am disposed TO see tuis question set
tied as soon as possible, and perfectly willing 10
have a final ard conclusive settlement now, instantly,
and after what the Senator from Newi0rk has SAID,
think il not unimportant that should attempt 10
bring the North and South face TO face, and what
resources each of might have in the contingency of
separate organizations. If We never acquire another
foot of territory for the South, look al her. Eight
hundred and fifty thousand square miles; as large
Great Britain, France, Austria Prussia and Spain. l.
not that territory enough TO make empire that shall
rule the world With the finest soil, the most de-