Sunbury American. [volume] (Sunbury, Pa.) 1848-1879, 1858-03-27

congressional Nslus.
CONGRESSIONAL pRocEKDINas
wAsnIsaroS. March 81, 1858.
SeS.re The Seuato chamber and CALLER

The preliminary business was unimportant.
Mr.. Green (Mo.) spoke on the Kansas bill.
llo denies the assertion Of the Senator from
Michigan (Mr. Stuart) that the friends Of the
Lecompton constitution had been driven from
their positions. The Senator from Illinois
(Mr Douglas) implied the same thing. But
1t is not so. The committee report stands
unchallenged. Its every individual charge is
sustained by official evidence, and the only
exception taken to the report is by the Sena
tor from Vermont, who objected TO the use
of harsh appella,ion Of "rebels." He made
some dcsutory md preliminary remarks in
reply to the Senators from Michigan, Illinois
nnd Vermont, and then went into the main
line OF tue argument, saying that the Kansas
government was the government de Jacto
quite as much as the case Of California, even
il you admit that the alleged frauds we're CON-
mittcd lie drew q parallel between the ca.
glas opinions on the latter in support of his
own on the former. He said that the state
ment that nineteen counties were disfranchi-
sed in Kansas was meant TO deceive. Those
counties were q wilderness, without inhab-
tants. lie defended the early steps taken for
the formation Of the Lecompton Constitution
aud denied the assertions Of the Senator from
Vermont, (Mr. Foot that there we're broken
pledges on the part Of the President to Gov.
Walker. Everybody knows that Gov. Walk.
or was 10 favor OF submitting the constitution
to the people. lie advocated it but had no
power to pledge it. The Senator from Hi
nois Mr. Douglas) says the only reason why
Z he whole constitution was not submitted was
because it would be voted down. Who said
so? No one except the Senators from Illinois
and Michigan. The great question is, Does
the constitution embody the wM Of the peo
r'"?' that is, the legally expressed 'cW.-
= b rules OF evidence are the same in equity
aud law we cannot take flying rumors and
the opinions Of Governors as evidence. That
j. fraught with danger, which, if carried to
It's u.timatum, would bling bristling bayonets
End canaoa TO be pointed at the walls OF the
CAPITOL. Such would be the result if the
Opinions of d mob we're to be substituted for
he forms of law. All legal forms having
peen- compiled with ia the formation Of the
Leccmpton constitution, it was completed
fact, aud the people had no right to vote whe
tae."e. mot it was a constitution. What
would Senators say if the constitution OF their
own State, after being in actual operation,
was'td be submitted to the people to see
whether il is a constitution or not The Sen.
iror irum X ke0tucky (Mr. Crittenlenl says it
uuld do 40 harm, aud would only show alum
lunt care, 10 submit it it again aud oga;n.-
Yes Fry again, try again !" Col. Fremont
rould have liked that principle, to try
gain" As to the cry Of fraud, it reminded
im--but he would not apply the maxim to
rnators-that "a lie well stuck to, and often
.pented, is ae good as the truth
sir. Green continued to analyZc the repu-
ID frauds, admitting that frauds did exist,
1t none TO v,iate the constitution. Further
an this, no legal evidence exists to show
ut the Lecompton constitution does not
ibody the will of the people, and if we go
ct,,l,
~ principal of liberty. He admitted that
,Seuators from Illinois. Michigan. CaiGor-
and Kentucky were not influenced in their
by the existence or non.eXistence Of slG-
Y, but they were assisting TO build build
party dangerous TO the Union, and
,se fundamental principle just enunciated,
No more slave States" Had it not been
them, Kansas many weeks since would
= been young sister in the federation Of
tes Mr.. Green sadhe would not 60
or aid the enemy, howevc. he miEat be
atISfed with the action Of his friends
uug other things, he said, Black Republi.
sm was crushing out the true Democracy
course, and would never meet its foe
iii it met the cannon of the South. lie
uded by expressing his ardent SEPARATION
he consolidation aud permanency Of the
ocratic party. Ii Kansas is but the
Doe, and Richard Roe, il is of no i'm
ance that General Calhoun has given the
lea es TO the Free State party The
,lple involved is one vital to the South
be North is SO far as it depends on the
b. for the interests of both are so inter-
that they cannot be severed without
H..
Seward, OF New Yo1k-Does the Sen
attach no importance 10 the crcum-
3 that the constitution requires that The
rs be made within eight days?
Green said that the election Of State
) CogresS had no right to touch, lie
1t know, neither did the Senator from
York. A note was here laid on his
which stated that all the returns were
within eight days. SO the Senator
New York is answered. Mr.. Green
cferred to the statement OF Mr.. Dou.
hat the constitution can only be chan
fore 1864, BY the exercise of reyoiu'
right. This is not so. New York
her States had done it, and the prov
inserted with similar Interpretation
X ansas bill of rights. The people
ave that right, to change the constitu-
a legal way, otherwise they could moi
their affairs, but would be bound by
eceding generation. In summing up
ha would not appeal TO the Americans
up the Democatic party, but would
m to help break down the only party
us 10 both.
Crittenden (Ky.) said he would moi
the debate but made the explanation
statements were made on the Official
not on the conversations of the gov.
Kansas. Thank God he could dis
right from wrong, and had the cou.
say So lie followed conviction, not
Kentuckys maxim, zoe just and fear
also his. He believed his course
the North and for the South lie
lad never used the words, "Arrayed
N the side of the Northern Demo
He wished Leither to build up nor
down any party. lie made al aiiec.
eterence to his compatrots OF the
'hen the Senate was great body
ded among its members Clay, Cal
ebster and Benton. lie prolessed
American, and it was his princ
'tect the ballot box as the only in
by which the people can exercise
'reignty.
Mr.. Crlttenden had concluded,
on arose as to whether the ordi
.tlng to the taxation of public landi
trt Of the constitution. The Ere,
gued that it was, and exhibiteS
onns certificate to that effect.
gh (OhiO) aud other lawyers argue,
not mart of tha cnnstitntion