New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-01-20


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AMERICAN INSTITUTE FARMERS CLUB.
TUESDAY, Jan. 19-RoBERT l.. PrLL, President of
the Institute, in the chair. Judge Megs, the Secre
tary, being sick, Dr. WATERBURY was appointed for
the occasion, and read several papers prepared or
translated by Judge Meigs from foreign journals.
BecS-A paper upon the culture of bees states that
darkness of hive is not necessary for the prosperity
Of swarms because they do prosper in glass hives.
Hymaloyo Htmp.-(FrOm The Journal Of Ans.)-
The London manufacturers found that the hemp il
buried in sand mud to rot it, which adds to the
weight but not to the value, and is injurious to work
men. The Rhcca hemp of India is kind of grass of
great value yielding several cuttings. and an aggre-
gate of two or three tuns per acre of fiber.
Gredse or Tar on 7rcc..-It is stated that coat
of grease tar on all the trunk of tree is very 1ju
rOus and several reported of trees killed
retarded in growth.
Mr.. PELL-It was recommended by Mr.. Downing
TO coaar to keep off mice and kill insects. and
many persons in following the recommendation de-
sroycd whole orchards or of valuable trces.
Ripc as. I nrile GrasS.-SoIoS ROBINSON read the
following letter from an experienced farmer in Ken
lucky:
SIR observe in the proceedings Of the Farmers Club
in TnE Of Dec T. statement by Dr.
ripe before harvesting Some grasses may advantage be
take the liberty to refer YOU to some tables in my agricultural
essay z and "a given the authority Of Sir Dayey
different grasses in This respect Timothy you will perceive is
som state Poo angnspois has double the numen when cut
in the flower state at, TS md table, S oiheT ss oa ng
perceive from table second that the numen of different grasses
Sa Pos 'ss G @ y though
is exceeded by the POs pers in hay bat not il nutye mat
gssses yield most hay when harvested III flower but the latter
yields numen when the seed Ipe Your club would
trouble introduce these into country wsd
sse s yer y ye iIS by
express time seed in March April by way Of experiment
Be good to read this your club ard Obs YOU
add ful description Of the two desired grasses and also
l. PoG ang"spolia-N head mead Hay per Nuttiye
grass, native of Britain, product at acre mattel
p Poa Jerfais~Fertile meadow grass,
natyie Of Germany product at the time $40
s b aSs !. the time Of seeding SIS lcs
8. Typoliun mdchoyorhi=um-Longr root
ed clover. native Of Hungary product $500
fhe sbos s are cm by Mr. Sinclair IN the
Duke of Bedfords garden, at Woburn Abbey.
Now Mr.. President, as this is of the most i'm
poiant questions that be discussed by far ners
to what is the proper time to cut grass hope may
elicit some remarks from Of the best farmers of
this State who happens to be present to-day, from
Onondaga County. That it, he is a gentleman Of OK
pcrience and careful observation and his experience
will be valuable to others present. allude, Sir, to
the Hon. George Geddcs, name well and favorably
known to New-iork farmers.
MIR. GEDDEs-I somewhat object to being called
upon to give my views Unexpectedly. The ques-
tion has many difficulties, because we don't under
stand terms. One man calls his grass ripe when he
cuts il, which another man would call green. want
one-third or one-half of my clover heads brown,
that about the seed would grow. cannot cure my
clover to suit if l cut it when it is more unrpe
than that. The kind grow is the medium size, that
Ii thn inat
we cut when part of the seed will grow. That is,
when il is Just az ripe would have wheat when
cut Timothy is the universal grass where live, IN
OnOndaga County. Some farmers cut grass IN the
blossom state, but the mass of people are satisfied
that the rpened grass makes the most nutritious hay
and is much less labor to save it in sweet condi-
ton.
Cutting Clorer.-Mr. PELL-I cut my clover when
tie heads ore twohrds ripe, and take IT in and salt
it the same day. Timothy, l cut when the blossoms
have fallen off, and treat il in the way clover.
Wheat, cut when in the early dough state and 1t Is
left to rpen on the ground Some wheat grew,
weighed % lbs. per bushel and contained IL lbs. OF
gluten, while wheat cut ripe from the same field,
weighed only Sc lbs. per bushel, and lbs. of gluten
The average of gluten in this country is not over 81
or lbs per bushe / have grown oats cut in the
milk that weighed 4S lbs. per bushe while the same
crop cut in ripened state weighed only 80 lbs.
DIR. WArERBuKY-T The great tendency of com
muny has been to defer cutting all grain too late.
When this error was fully made known, some young
farmers to the opposite extreme and cut grain and
grass too green l spoiled my first crop Of corn by
cutting il up too sOOn 1t would not rpen Ii is well
known that clover seed one of the most nutritious
articles Of stock-feed.
Mr.. PELL-The roots of corn so fine that all the
roots of large hill of could be carried in mans
hat The roots spread through all the soil to gather
nutriment, hence il should be finely pulverzed II
crop is cut green it takes away but very little matter
from the soil that goes to produce seed and exhaust
the land 1t is the rpenng Of seed that reduces the
productiveness of land.
FatteniRg hogs riM opplcs.-I once fatted some
hogs entirely with apples, that looked well, but in
boiling the pork it wasted near two-thirds OF Its
weight. Hence it is not ouly important, but imPera'
tive that fattening animals should be fed cereals.
Wheat and Corn CfOps.-Mr. GEDDEs inquired OF
the President whether the wheat he mentioned, cut
green, and of the greatest weight per bushel gave
the greatest yield of bushels in profits per acre. The
latter is important, since buyer never troubles him
sell about quality or quantity of gluten, 80 that the
grain looks well.
Mr.. PELL-The field grew the wheat mentioned
| upon, was manfred with charcoal dust, and in one
pace, where the cart upset, it was highly mpregnatsd
win TINS substance and that portion yielded at the
rate oi 30 Dushels OF wheat TO the acre. think that
| would have been the most profitable
| L: w. Field find in all experiments 40 manv at
tending circumstances, that can get at no certain
| facts with single experiment. One season the sun
shines, and another il rains. You rccollect the wheat
exhibited here grown upon loose sand that was bet
guanO. l once applied burned bones at the rate of
eight tuns per acre, without a sign of benefit 10 the
crop. What made that sand-hcar productive,
| Mr.. GEDDEs-So we get crops from gravel thrown
corn to the acre, one gentleman mentions, have
| never seen such crop grown. should like to-
Nh. PILL have grown hundred busAcis Of