New-York daily tribune., 1858-10-12
la " LNTELLIGENCE.


negroes were landed.
Examination Of William Kins contihuel-Q. Give ia
al account Of the voyage after you left Cardenas ?
A. Mr. Macomber told all the crow the ship Was clear
To go to New. Orleans, and 20 went ont tha,
dav: day aiterward mate call all hands after.
o. Tia, is Macou.berl ? A. Yes, Sir Mr.. Macom-
Der told u the ship had not papers to save US; TO
make ont our minds to what shall do; then say
we dom got no minds 10 make up we don't know
what shall do then he says, better put tor Long
Island 20 there vel be safe
O. What did the crew say 10 that a. Didn't say
nothing: ten days or 80 after this make Montauk
Point Mr Macomber told us for scut.e the snip, 80
a. 70 be all ready for tonight went To work and
make FIVE holes III the bottom oil the snip IN each siue
O. Near the edge Of the water 4. Under we
went to MOntauk but was too soon 20 land; we went
out again and went in again, when II was night;
then we was right before the Montauk Point, and Mr..
Maconber tole Us those who want to land IN Mon
teuk Point say so; there was boat already, " who
want to land in Montauk Point say so, because the
boat is ready TO jump In eight OF US Jump IN the Doat
wa- one and Antonio who died, is two, JOSS Frank
i three and Wilson was four, Bel Shore was five,
John Italian was six.
@. Is that John the Baptist A. Yes Sir; Jose Marie
was seven, ard 10 Caetano was eight; and we leave
aboard Mr. Macomber and Mr.. Coleman.
0. The second mate J A. Yes, Sir Maurice Alex,
Oliver.
o. Jacobsen here A. Yes, Sir, and jim, Jack
McIeod Baltimore and William Jack so we had Non
IL IL,
night; we was feared of lose our lives We wait for
next morning; rext morning half past six we didn
see nothing Of the ship, and we went ashore; from
there went to Sag Hsrbor we stop there that part
Of the day and that night next morning three OF US,
was one, Josef Marie, Jo Caetano went away to
Greenport ard leave FIVE behind.
Cross.examnstion by Mr.. Joachimssen,-Q. What
is your name, Kin or Kins a. 1t is kins.
o. l. that your Portuguese name A. No; my
Portuguese name is Bernardo Silva de Conte.
Q. Have you gone by any other name since You
came to this country than VIM. kins "A. Yes; my
name has been John Ogden aud Williamson
q. On board what vessel was your name William
son a. On the bark Carniola.
@. Where did You slip in her A: AT Lisbon.
O. Where was she going TO A. She was gong 10
Obispo Bay, ON the Coast of Africa. ~
@. Was she in the save-trade A. No, Sir.
O. When did you leave her A. left her here last
Winter.
O. In what vessel was your name John Ogden 4.
In the top-sail schooner Olive Branch.
O. Where did she belong a. Down-East in War
rington.
O. How long ago ? a. Good while; she was the
first ship went on since left my country.
Q. Were you on any ship between the Carniola and
the Ilaidee a. No, Sir.
Q. Have you been on the Slave Coast before A
No Sir, never.
Q. Had you ever sailed with any of the men on the
Haidee before A. No, Sir, never.
O. Had you ever known them before A. No, Sir.
q. Now kins, how came you TO ship on the Hal
dee n. IunlQ III out tlhl SNIP anu sup III
when come use to 90 to this boarding house
Spanish house in Cherry street
@. What is the name a. John Oren; he says he
has good ship FOR me to 60 and make good voyage
TO Cadiz and Gibraltar.
@. You asked him where to go A. Yes. Sir
Q. Did lie take you to the shipping 0iliee a. ies
Sir.
o. Did any of the other men come from his house
a. Yes; jose Frank and Jack and Jose Costar.
Q. Did he say the same thing to themi a. don't
know, Sir.
Q. You had no idea you were going to the coast Of
Africa A. He said he didn't know what place she
going on.
@. Had you any idea you We're going to the Coast
of Africa from what he said to you! y. Some Of the
other mems tole me.
O. don't want to know that; what did he tell
you a. lie toe the ship was going to tit out some
where else to 60 to the Coast OF Africa, =,
Q. But you didn't intend to go there , a. No. Sir;
never tend TO go never take notice OF what he toe
@. what day oI tne week did YOU leave 4.
don't recollect the day Of the week.
y. DO you know the names Of the six passengers
who went from herel A. Mr. Botelho and Mr. Niera,
and BotelhO's brother and three wOmens.
Q. Which was the owner OF the vessel A. think
the Oldest
Q. DO YOU know what countryman he was \.
He tole me lie was Portuguese he was talking, and
he tolc me so.
Q. He spoke Portuguese' A. He can't speak no
other language.
o. How DO YOU know that he was the owner of
the ship A. Every body knew it and he said 1t, aud
everybody consider for that
@. DO you know whether you cleared at the Gus
m-liOuse al tadiZ a. uOhl Know lneIe was
o. Where did Capt. Whitney say TO you be was
going to St. Michaels TO get passengers a. kight
before the American Consul.
O. Were any other Of the crew \. NO. was not
nobody 'cept me in the Office.
O. bid you tell the others a. Yes, there was four
o: us: we was called one by one.
o. Weren't you all called a. -Four of US was IN
ia there was row ON board, and the captain put us
!" o. How long were you in jail A. Eight days.
O. Did Macomber help 10 get You in jail! a. No,
Sr.
@ Were You board in Cadz when g the the cargo 5
the ship was fitted out to 60.
O. How long was the ship IN Cadiz A. More
three or four weeks.
o. During the voyage had you any other captain
except Capt. Whitney a. We had another Portu-
guese captain; Capt. Tomas.
O. Where did he take command! A. On the coast
O. Before or after the niggers came on board 4.
Same time.
O. Did he keep command until he came to Cuba
a. Yes, Sir.
Q. What was Mr. viera doing didn't he have COM
mand over the negroes a. Yes telling US to do this
and that.
O. Hadn't you a boatswain A. BoGtsman
q. Bosnf 4. Yes. Sir; Wilson.
q. Did Mr.. Maeomber sct as the mate al the time
A. Yes Sir.
Q. What did Capt. Whitney do a. Nothn.
q. Now kins when you came TO Chilongo dld not
the American oficers give up command to the Portu
guese A. No, Sir: only Capt. Tomas.
Q. Didn't you change your flag a. Yes, Sir we
showed Portuguese flag TO d vessel.
q. When you made Chilongo 10 take on the negroes
was there any other vessel there a. No, Sir.
.. Wasttere any opportunity fox you or any other
of the men TO get away from on board the Haidet
4. No. Sir. -,
Q. How much wages did you ship for ; A. si@
month
n W., a. a, Ill o., ,,o, W Cir. J ,o. more.