The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-08-06

nCn naue NC % take course, and 70 prosecs
be cosSD.n >prudsns ana unsafe friends c0ns'd'r~
NJ Psr n-rey ere ON the other side, though
varo. .NAL with v.nemenoe,-Whsn ~. M. sew Il, Ans.
In = money 70 v4rt liquor store in Auoorn, n. Az,
=. alphabetically denied twice. though y VS. -
Sestsoa. He was always the friend Of NJ, Seward.
Austin.
CsArnxAx-I supposed the object re meeting vas 70
nominate Mr.. Smith, the majority Oh ms 'reh's snou'0
Mr.. AUSTIN Certainly. -
is not doubt in that expressed - 70 the ooes OF this
meeting Il declares mperalvey TIE object 70 DO the
Mr. HrsTS-nd NOT Mr. Smith say in his speech that he
did wish to be nominated unless upon certain oondi-
| sions, which are wanting here2
CHAIRMAN readipg tho calD-K that Ia the call it en-.
cludes sll remarks In opposition 70 the nomination.
Mr.. ArsnN-w the Chairman will permit nae 70 say
WORD before the question ia decided, would
Mr.. PRuys-rhe question is decided Already.
Mr. AusrS-Is that 80?
CHAIRMAN IL the call be solely 70 nominate Mr.. Smith,
this question canpot be discussed.
FhED Dore sss-Then, No Chairman, submit the reso-
lutops also cut OF order.
CHAIRNhN-l about 10 remark that In the discus ion
OF the resolutions the gentlemen would have liberty 70 ex
press their opinions on both sides
charged with having been sent here Oy M Seward
That ia entire mistake Mr. Seward said nothing TO
What stated about Mr. Seward and the liquor business il
true, and Cal be proved In . court Of law am rghl
.ne recIr' Us leno o, ana an enemy
Mr. Smith, do net desire this question 70 be discussed,
they desire 70 put gag on the friends Of temperance and
freedom, and members Of the republican pnty----
M PRuyS again call the gentleman TO order for using
| such language.
CHARMAS-I have TO say thst rules have been put
into my hanos TO the of the Convention
cep the call ITSELF and be pc gentlemen Will conare them
Mr. DouGIAss-wiI the Chairman please to interpret
that call for U.s. our only business here TO nominate
fOr ie u. 90 ns iaS 90 SPOUT our
faith for discussion, that another thing Will the Chair
man interpret the call?
A. pp,xx 10 The x.so,rt{on. axpl.;r vo,
will allow &c. the draftcr OF them. i have not
raised the point order that was out Of order TO dis
any who opposed to the very object Of this Conven
tioD-which to nominate Mr.. Smth-should cai n
as right TO discuss the question in the abstract 10
whether be should be nominated he plainly ou.of
order. This in accordance with the ussges OF al po
litcHi conventions a. an nnes We 90 not go in,o re-
the proprety OF making their nominations We SIT quiet,
! Ike Gcn:emen Nor do We go mo Methodist church
to interfere the proceedings heIe Ga the contrary
the gentlemen here wish TO Discuss these resolutions with
rather than give them chance Of saying that cid
not extend 10 them every privilege which the most exact
ing could demand, wiling, when this question de-
cided, and Will move that limited tine be given them;
but claim that they cannot require asa right but must
Mr.. BrRInGH, of Albany came here partly of my
motive and partly on behalf OF the President of the
State Temperance Society and also rieD Of tempe
rance ana freedom, 70 attend not deegaed Convention,
but msss Convention / supposed every proposition
would receive full and ample discusson( APPLAUSE
ana that would be required say that
pedep. inexpediept to nominate Mr. Smith, prei-
IN QeCu6sfOl
will not accept the privilege OF speaking here as cour
tesy speak at ALL shall be rs right (cheers);
wsh this point settled whether the friends or tempe
rance and freedom here assembled are required to pro-
norrce their Sbibboleth the nomination OF Gerrit
Smith a. pre- requisite to entering into debate on the
subjects In the venton such il tie case let
Us al understand I. venture to affirm tina. what say
for myself, say for no small portion OF this assembly
hat is that We speak here nj AL we do 50 right and
a cour tesy. cloud spplause) II this dele
gate convention coud understand that unless had
duly delegated by recognized constituency would have
ht invited friends
OF temperance and freedom, 70 meet in convention
claim M the rights appestAning to member OF mass
Several gentlemen here rose, but Mr.. DUAL got the
f1or, ana ssd the chairman has not stated
kss been invited here not only friend OF tenn
poTIuoe aud freedom, but 10 do specific thing and that
u 20 Ionnke Gerrt Smith for Governor Of the State Of
New York Those WHO have me. TO do that have right
60 cscrfs these resolutions and no other has right
I heea or GSd n sSsn Sh sSa
right TO here who IL opposed 10 the noEnaton Of
Gtrrit Smith
A Vm0.--Certsnly not (aughier.)
Mr.. GoopKil-ls am now sixty six years old and have
been present a. twenty different nomn sng entions,
snppofe, At which have been merely as 3 spectator
does net belong 10 the organization in whose name the
Convention held appears there he has no right TO in
eriere with lis proceedings, whether democratic repub
bean or any thing else Nov, tnis is a convention OF
the democratic or any other political party, want 10
know Il, and will be guided Sccordinsly II 10 ia
convention o, these who, in calling this Convention,
have declared their intention to be the performance
sersiooa would Ike TO know, however wSe
tier would be IN order went into demo
cratic or republican Convention and Insisted on taking
part In their proceedings respecting their nominations.
here with the impress that 10 do spe-
c'hc thing If tba, he not the fact then have mistaken
nothing
Nj. krSe. Of Herklmer rose and Was prevented from
speaking by Mr.. PRurS, who said-rnere Is a point o,
order before the char. Is i deb,,esbley
Mr.. KSeAs representative OF the fr ends OF freedom
and temperance in Rerkimer county wish TO say that
had A. M
ledge bad Of from the beer shops On the way.
Mr.. PRrN-rbst shows the party you belong 70.
M KIsG-If we are TO Be deprived OF the right Of
stating our sentiments, wish the gentleman 70 amend his
Il New York. say except the people Of Herkmer"
CHAusAS-n appears TO me that no man has right TO
speak here except those who signed the call for the nom
nation Of Mr.. Smith
Mr.. AUsrS-I wish 10 say
Mr.. KSG-I move that we declare Gerh Smith Cover.
without any election 81 all
Mr. PRrYS-i move thai there be no discussion on
point Of order after n decided.
CH.m-kr Austin rose 70 make a remark = don't know
for what purpose.
Mr. Ksc-I appeal from the decsiop OF the chair
Mr.. McGowkx INDUCED In some reflection. on NJ. Sew.
ard and the republican party, charging the former with
being the friend Of the sh grosgeres and the latter
The GRAMMAR explained that he had not, until within
the last ev moments, read the call, but satisfied that
IL had specific object in view and anything aside from
Mr.. MING insisted that vote his appeal from the
ctclson OF Toe coaH tnouu De tAen
Mr.. PErYS remarked that the gentleman (Mr. Kmg)
was not, by hts own showing member OF the Conven-
ton, and his appeal could not be entertained.
Mr. KISe said " that the chairman was not q
member Of the Convention.
Alter further noisy discussou in which kessrs.
King Kingsley, Pruyp Stone, Austin and others took part
was eventually decided in order settle the cues
ton ~ 10 membership, that all WHO had signei the
should rise 70 Their fes, Aeoa, DIV " rose
An effort was made 70 obtain lie, Of nameS,
but in the confusion this WAS loss sight o. Il then
declared the part OF the members that those opposed
the nomination OF Mr.. Smith migat have the privilege Of
presenting their views the rcsoutors they up
but not Of voting thereon wheeupon the Chairman claimed
the liberty Of making efspeecn and Withdrawing from
the chair Mr.. Bureish refused 10 accept courtesy
what be considered right, and declared that a
Of honor he could not express his sentiments the cues
ton while debarred the privilege OF voting o. end lie