The weekly pioneer and Democrat. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. Territory) 1855-1865, 1858-08-19

skilled In the use Of fire. arms, aud good horse
men. local force or militia Of at least 200
men could be easily organized and embodied"
The barracks are perfectly habi.able, and the
post defensible. except sgains. heavy ordi
nance, which IL would be diflent TO bring up
against II. Norway Ia the chief horse depot Of
the company the position might be made i'm
pregnable. All communication between Lake
Superior and the BED river Is now, ccording
TO Sir q. simpson. impracticabie for any body
OF troops. "A few individuals might 60, but
not any force. There ID abundance Of provi.
sions In the country no want need be appre.
hended; water IL good, wood abundant. The
climate Ia severe In winter, but healthy at all
seasons" These few extracts may suffice 10
show that o settlement once established would
be safe from danger from without. As regards
the fur trade in this district, need scarcely say,
that II you take the land from the Hudson Bay
Company, the monopoly that goes with the
and vii expire.
The motion Of Mr.. RoEBroK was second.
cd by Lord Bury. Mr.. LAboucHERE said,
upon the whole he concurred with Mr.. GLAD
STONE that it would be better to leave this
matter to the Government. After great
deal of discussion, in which many members
took part, Mr.. RoEBuK withdrew his mo-
ton.
THE HERALD's COMMENTS.
The n. Y. Herald has some comments,
practical and truthful, upon this debate,
well worthy the attention Of our readers.
In its issue of the Sd, the Herald says
The debate was opened by Mr.. Roebuck
with some resolutions against the Hudsons
Bay Company, which he supported by
telling speech. Mr.. Roebuck is man of
strong sense aud many crotchets. He never
troubles himself about finding soft names
for hard things. Like all crotchety men, be
always holds to the extreme Of every idea
and therefore do we find him admitting some
great facts. which Englishmen generally are
not yet ready to admit. and drawing the
strangest conclusions from them. lie rec
ognizes the wondrous growth Of the United
States, and plumply says so. Thence he
concludes that il England does not build up
counterpoise to US ON this continent, We
snail overshadow mot only England, but
the whole earth" He insists that "English
civilization is greater than American civil
zation,' because we recognize the domestic
slavery of an inferior race. From this be
draws the conclusion that the English are
free people, and that we are not. lie sees
that II England does not plant colony from
The head Of lake Superior 10 The Rocky Noun
iains, Minnesota mM send her cohorts there
From this he deduces the necessity of fight
between this country and England. In the
statement Of facts Mr.. Roebucks was the
great speech of the debate in drawing
conclusions, none of the gentlemen who fol-
lowed in the debate accepted his inierences
The great fact that is recognized in this
discussion is the growing power of the Uni
ted States as nation. We are already
casting shadow over Europe. Our moral
influence is being acknowledged everywhere,
and the day is not far distant when in every
European conference the great question will
be, what will the United States think !?
This position We shall attain without bat
le. We have no more great wars 10 make.
So far as we are concerned, the present age
il the age OF the abuse of weakness, not Of
the abuse Of strength. No great power will
defy us-little ones only, confding in their
weakness, may insult us. We agree nth
Mr.. Roebuck, that Minnesota pM 0ni her
cohorts 10 the banks Of the Saskatchewan, and
that as she IS nearer 10 them than England,
she wH beat England IN settling up the eon,.
try. But there is no fight in this. With
the reciprocity treaty along our northern
boundary, and the AngloSaXon right Of
selEgovernment, there will be no cause for
disputes. The Miunesotians already talk Of
making dozen other States there but it
makes no difference whether the national
flag be English or American. Canada to-
day lends more moral power TO this country
than she does to England. Great Britain
cannot build up rival to us on this CONT
nent. II sh, can beat US in building up
new States, which we much doubt, they will
form part OF our commercial system-our
American zollverein, which is the keystone
of our political power
But It is in this matter OF empire building
that We have beaten England everywhere,
and the cause OF our success is precisely the
difference between American and English
civilization, as defined by Mr. Roebuck. 1t
is difference which exists also between the
only two living political parties now in Eng
land. Ii was the cause Of the separation OF
the Old Thirteen colonies from the mother
country. 1t is the cause Of Englands fail
ure in the West Indies, in Southern Africa,
in Hindostan. and thus far in Australia.
England has pursued the abstract, We the
practical. England has sought to develope
the moral, We the material. England has
consulted morbid and i'll directed con-
science We have felt in our pockets. As
soon as George the Third, pursuing al alb
strac,ion, touched our pockets, We separated.
From this point Of divergence the two civil
izations have grown and waxed strong.
England has fallen into the hands Of the
evangelical fanatics OF Exeter Hall, who
have blighted some Of the iairest portions Of
the British empire. The United States
have increased from thirteen To thirty-two
States, and from three millions TO thirty
millions OF prosperous people. While NOR
al darkness, ignorance and rebellious mil.
lions have accrued to no small portion Of
EpylzDd's emp,re light, knowledge and