The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-01-21


rgln are just hold that the people OF Kansas
make the people OF the United Sates Congress and the
President recognize those principles. II do t.
is time should If cannot let be known longer
by the name of democracy Let cast aside the name
Of republic Those principles are right, and say
make the government acknowledge them. Why
should we turn aside from State government at this
dateY Are there rot good reasons why should have
Has there been any change in the crcumstancee2 IL
il necessary to turn aside people and come down
10 an expediencyY Can any person recommend such a
course3 think not hope this resolution will pass
that this priocipe Of self government be recognized
and that we may have the glory Of achieving this tri-
umph in direct way DO not believe the legislation Of
wholeso and good laws but that the question.
Is not the scter Of the laws 80 much their source
that we, as Americans, look at. We want
the will Of portion of the people, and not the will OF
single man for as soon you come down TO portion OF
the peoples will being represented in law, so far the
government leaves democracy and becomes despot-
ism.
Mr.. ALLEN Of Lawrence, being called upon, rose and
made remarks answer TO the above speech which
TO the following efect:-He considered that the
Topeka constitution formed as the only possible
of their getting out Of the difficulties in which they then
was formed, ratified and approved for that pur
pose Were their conventions instructed 10 put the State
government into immediate operationS No. they were in
sructed have the machinery that made
and fitted together Lane says to have the carriage
greaset; what for9 TO start it then2 No. but when
emergency should arise TO call for it, Well, does that
emergency exist now9 No! DO the people want IL nowP
No. not even in lawrence here would majority of the
After some further remarks to the same effect the
Speaker the United States government treated
it as foowsI say the government of the United States
as exists, the most damnable despotism under
Heaven The whole thing exists in James Buchanan
Has he shown principles Of republcansm in his treat
ment of Kansas No. He commands and we must obey:
for he has the command of the best army in the world
enforce his commands 1t thus the Fourth Of July
last, when dispersed by the United States troops
Was that in accordance with lawY No. That autocrat
needed law command United States troops to charge
bayonets and dsperse US.
On referring to the attempt to put the Topeka State go
vernmeni into operation at this time, he sad-I think if
made there would be chance in the world Of
getting into the Union at the present time and there
is possibility of maintaining ourselves out of it, 1t is
the hardest thing did in the world TO abandon the
principle of making Congress admit under the Topeka
constitution If Congress admits us under the IAcompon
constitution then is the time for revolution; and when
that time comes revolution is the only means for
to obtain rights. Then we will have the Topeka or
the peoples constitution and Legislature called together
by the peoples Governor.
Mr.. HARDEN, of Doniphan county, offered resolution
that the Territorial Legislature should engage in making
laws at once, and at the time repeal all conflicting
enacments until the whole existing code should be abo
ished.
Mr. ELLIOTT offered substitute and resolution that the
State and Territorial Legislature should laws for
the election Of members TO Constitutional Conven-
ton and that the Legislature elected under that
suton should be the legal successor OF both the exist
ing Legislatures having been equally begot by them
After Mr. Elliott had made short speech in favor of his
notion he was succeeded by Mr.. Leggett, who offered
be following preamble and resolutions -
TOPEKA RESOLUTIONS.
Whereas, the Legislature under the peoples constitu
ton in session In the to sp of Lawrence; and
whereas the Territorial Legislature has failed TO do what
the peoples wish they should do when eected-re
sign and transfer their power 10 the State government
and whereas, large number of men1cainng leadership
in the free State party TO have forsaken and
their influence against said government therefore,
Resolved, l. That recommend the Territorial Legis-
afure adjourn without date q That the Territorial Legs
ature, in their action compelling this recommendation have
acted contrary TO the well known wishes Of the people and
their pledges and deem them unworthy Of confidence
for the future That those persons who have formerly
appeared as leaders of the people OF the Territory and
who now try TO weaken the peoples and strengthen the
Territorial government have departed from the principles
of the free state party
Mr. LEGG.iT went ON TO speak upon the first resolution
before he got TO The he was interrupted by Topeka
Governor Robinson, so the last two were not read
CHARLES RoBrSses SOL do not know who are meant
there by the leaders, but certainly there hing ut some
one Before that resolution passes should like To know
What MN are there meapL xanl1 lks " haSs ussir
names spec'hed in the resolution The Governor Of the
State Of Kansas went ON 10 explain that he was con-
sidered by tsome mon as one OF the leaders OF tho
free state party aso to define his position, which deiin
hon, II meant ment this-that ne was IN favor
but unless the whole party in favor OF that project
and would rally TO it, support He considered, however
that the Territorial Legislature, by repeating all law
previously enacted and framing good and wholesome
ones in their stead, would give satisfaction TO nineteen
rabd remarks being made against the President OF the
United States IN regard 10 bis doing this and that with the
army, Mr.. Robinson expressed himself as follows The
President OF the United States Is as weak a. child when
acting without law The President OF the United States
can't do anything under heaven with anybody except he
does II in accordance with law would like TO see the
President OF the un ed states try 70 interfere with the
people OF Kansas ~ violation OF law, &c
Mr.. ALIEN said there was such n thing as martial law
and that the President had instructed acting Governor
Gen Denver thai there was an attempt TO put the To
peka state government in force to use the whole United
states army against them.
several other persons spoke during the evening The
caucus was oomposed chiefly Of Topeka Legislators and
lawrence 80 they had power 70 thngs pretty much
~ uey hked INSIDE out Mll1s r. they ADJOURNED se
my ueeh Ph w soN uufns VIZ TWO sensiohs ihB ID
pretty go0u inocauoh ina, the representatives. OF the
sta'e on kansas WI shoruy return 70 egsate ior ther
nonoraoie nousehoa consutuenCes. however tne spfh
'cNtung among tnem Is such mat were IL moi lot
the expenses consequent upon tner stopping mere,
they wouiu remain anu iegisate providing always
That they could get a quorum II they thought
ihe counties st elected Them would pay them the three
or i3Ir hunofeo COLLARS would cost them nero, they
woud propaoy remain now tnen We would nave Kansas
essated lor AZ STATE, and Kansas leelsaied Tor as
lerrory oy men oi lhe same party, by men chosen py