Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1858-10-01

made that proposition 10 the Senate in 1850 ard
renewed il duriny the ast session. in bill proviGt
that no Territory OF the United States should iornA
consultation, aud apply for admission until IT hsi II =
requisite population. On another occasion propo-
that Neither Kansas any other Territory should
admitted until It had the requisite population. rou
gre's did not adopt any of my propositions conisir'.
this g-nrral rule, bu, did mak- exception OF suSs
1 val stand by that tecspjon. Cheers Eth,
Kansas lnust come IN as tree State, with whar-v'
population she may have, the rule be applied
all the other Territories alike. Cheers ther-'nro
answer at once. that II having been decided that ksr
has people enough for slave State hold thar s
has enough TOR fres State. i"Good.' and applsus,
| hope Mr.. Lincoln is satisfied with my answer "h
ought to be-" aud cheers And now l would like to
pet his answer 10 his own nnterrogatory-wh-thrr rr
not he will vote to admit Kansas before she has tn"
requisite population. "iit him again. wan, tr
know whether he will vote to sdmt Oregon b.iorr
that Territory has the requisite population. Nj.
Trumbull will not. and the same reason that comnf-
Mr.. Trumbu against the admission of Oregon, con
units him egeinst Kansas, even II she should spps
for admission as free STATE. l"fou' We got him.
and cheers IL thsre il any sincerity, any truth. u
the argument of Mr.. Trambull in the Senate again
the admission of Oregon because she had not @3 80
people, although her population was larger than tr'
y, Kansas, he stands pledged agalnst the admI--"f
of both Oregon and Kansas until they have 93.l2
inhabitants. would like Mr.. Lincoln to answer the
L
cine. Laughter. Ii ne differs with Mr.. Trumtuu
le, him answer his argument against the admission
Oregon, instead of poking questions at me- Right
good, good" laughter and cheers
LINooLS's SECOND QuksrIoS.-Can the peop's a.
the United States Territory, any lawful way, agsn
the wishes of any citizen OF the United S;H;-s, eN
cude slavery from their limits prior to the formation
of State Constitution
DOUGLAS ANsWER.-The next question pre-
pounded to me by MIR. Lincoln is, can the people oi
rfnu fhA
any citizen of the United States, exclude slavery
from their limits prior To the formation OF s Stat"
Constitution answer enpha!ically, ss Mr.. Lincoln
has heard me answer hundred times from every
stump in Illinois, that in my opinion the people OF
Territory can, BY lawful means, exclude slavery
from their limits prior to the formation OF = STAG
Constitution Enthusiastic applause Mr.. Lincoln
knew that had answered that question over and
over again. lie heard me argue the Nebraska bill ou
that principle all over the State in 1854 in 1852 ana
in 1856, and he has no excuse for pretending I" be-
in doubt TO my position on that question 60
II matters not what way the Supreme Court may here
after decide as TO the abstract question, whether
slavery may or may not go into Territory under the
Constitution; the people have the lawful means TO III
roduce it or exclude it they please, for the
that slavery cannot exist day or an hour anywhere
unless il ia supported by local police regulations
Right, right. Those police regulations can only be
established by local Legislation, aud ii the people are
opposed to slavery, they will elect representai'v 10
that body who will by uofrendly legislation 'ii-'u
ally prevent the introduction OF It into ther midst.
IT, on the contrary, they are for it, their legislation
will favor it's extension. Hence, matter what :he
decision of the Supreme Court may be OH thar ab
strac question: still the right of the people TO mSkr
slave Territory or free Territory 10 perfect and som
plete under the Nebraska bill. hope Mr.. Lr"on
deems my answer satisfactory on that point.
In this connection, will notice the charge winch
he has introduced in relation TO Dir. Chases amend
ment. thought that had chased that amendment
out of Mr.. Lncons brain at Ottawa, laughter; out
il seems that il s haunts his imagination and he
not vet satisfied. had supposed that he would br
ashamed to press that question further. lie let Ia"
YER and has been q member OF Congress, and ha-
occupied his time and amused you by telling You
about parliamentary proceedings. he ought 10 nave
known better than TO try TO palm of his miserah!r
imposi!ions upon this intelligent audience. The NJ
braska bill provided that the Legislative power and
authority of the said Territory should extend 10 al
righfu su'j.o's ci legislation consistent with the Of
ganio act and 'ta Constitution OF the United Sh'"s
Ii did not mat: AZ: exception as to slavery but gave
all the We. thar i pos,ible for Congress- TO give
without violating he Constitution, to the Territorial
Legislature, with no exception or Limitation oil iIr
sub-ct Of slavery at all. The language OF that bill
which have quoted gave the full power and the iu
authority over the subject of slavery affirmativey
and eestively TO introduce IL or exclude H. So far
tn. Constitution of the United States would permit
Snat more could Mr.. Chase give by his amendment
Nothing. He offered his amendment for the Identical
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demagogues in tbs country to try aud deceive the
people. l"Good," and cheers.
His amendment was to this effect 1t provided
that the Legislature should have the power to exclude
slavery; and General Cass suggested, why not give
tha power to introduce az we'll as exclude T. The
answer was they have the power already in the b'i
TO do both. Chase was afraid his amendment w"ula
be adopted if he put the alternative proposition hnd
40 make it fair both ways, but would not yield. lie
offered il for the purpose OF having II rejected He
hi cd md
again. simply to make capital out OF it for the stump
He expected that it would be capital for small poi-
Diane in the country, and that they would make NJ
effort 10 deceive the people with 1t; and he was not
mistaken, for Lincoln i. carrying out inc pIah "hn"
rably. I"Good good."l Lincoln knows that the
Nebraska bil without Chases amendment gn'"
all the power which the Constitution would per
nit. Could Congress confer any moref NO, no. !
Could Congress go beyond the Constitution "i HE
oountry7 We gave all, a full grant, with no -1ci'-
tion in regard to slavery way or the other. We
lsft that question ss left all others, to be decided
nv the people for themselves just as they pirh-"'i
I will not occupy my time on this question hhvr
argued il before all over lnoi-; have argue II 10
the North, the South the East and the Wrst' HVo"
ine the same sentiments aud the same principles
have not been afraid 10 avow my sentiments up n"r"
for fear would be trotted down into Egypt Cheer
and laughter.
LscoLs's THIRD QUEsTIos.-lf the Suprem"
Court of the United States shall decide that Sa-s
favor of acqusacing In adopting and following such
decsi0n az rule of political action
DouaI ..' 'AsswgR.-The third Question which VI
Lincoln presented s. If the Supreme Court o. IA"
limited States shall decide that State of this Union
cannot exclude slavery from its own mhs, will |
submit 10 it7 sm amazed that Lincoln shoaId ask
such A question. ia boy knows better.
Yes, school boy does know better. Mr.. Lincoln r
object 10 to cast an imputatlon upon the Suprenr
Court. He knows that there never was but one man
in America, claiming any degree Of intelligence ~
decepcy who ever for moment pretended such
thing II ia true that the Washington Union, in Al
article published on the l7th of last December Gd
put forth that doctrine, and denounced tne arilr
on ths Hoor of the Senate. in speech which NJ
I;ncoln now nreteuds was against the President.
The Union had claimed that slavery had riRh' 70
90 into the free Sates, and thar any provision ih u"
constitution or laws Of the free States to the contrary
vas mil and void. denounced it in the Senate. ~
T ss;d hefcre. and was the frat man who did. Lin
con's friends Trumbull, and Seward. and Hale. and
Wilson, and the whole Republican side OF the Sen
ate were silent. They left it to me to denouacs
Il. Cheers.l And what was the reply mace 10 hh'
on that occasion Mr. Toombs of Georgia got ~
and undertook to lecture me on the ground that
ought not to have deemed the article worthy o M
tjce and ought not TO have replied to IT; thai there
was not one man, woman or child, south OF the "a"
tomsc in any slave State, who did not repudate any
suoh prstensions. Mr. Lincoln knows that that r"
ply was made on the spof, and yet now he asks Tins
question. He might AZ we'll nsk me, suppore MI
Lincoln should steal horse would sanci'on u -
lLaughter And it would be as genteel In me 10 ask
him. in the event he stole horse what ought to be
done with him1 He casts an imputatlon upon th'
Suprsne Court of the United States by supposlna
that they would violate the Constitution of the Uni
tad Ststee. tell him that such thing s not posi-
BILE. ICheers. II would be an act of moral treason
that no man on the bench could ever descend to- MIR
Lincoln himself would never in his partisan feeling:
so far forget what right as to be guilty of suot
an act. l"Good, good
TO the Editors of the Enquirer:
WAsHIsGTos CRY, Sept. Is, 1855.
Gentlemen Your articles in defence Of Judg