New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1858-10-07
Of dealing out to Catholic portion Of the Common
S,bool Fund. for then il would have TO be divided
among other derominatiors.

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and al Indian could be innocent well rs any one
else. He allowed no book to be consulted whether
| man q man or u horse. Cheerr. The evidence
net in any books but in ourselves. He once wen,
/ 10 the Governor OF Governors, Mr.. Ihuriow Weei
! about this matter Of a Registry Law and he said
| 'Oh you will ruin the Republican party Laugh.
teri and he bad often been, while travelling through
the State, met with tie came question. Well he
work rs lobby member He wrote an article and got
i printed, but he could not get majority OF the
Republican members to vote for Personal Liberty
Bill If be were Governor Of the State be would be-
amazed be did not get such law; but it would
make any difference with him whether there was
Liberty Bill not-let the kidnappers appear in any
part Of the State and he would summon just enough
military power to save the victim, IcheersI. Ii he
had philanthropy it not Of the rose-water kind.
All his sympathes were with the innocent. And what
did they want in Governor They needed Justice
justice seated in the bosom Of the Eternal.
a NOICE-HOw can you reconcile that course with
the Constitution OF the United States
Mr. Smith rePhed-where was the difficulty Tie
preamble settled that matter.
A voicE-Does the preamble prevail over the arti-
Gle which commands US TO delives up the fugitive
slave =
Mr.. Smith said he had never seen that article
Laughter.
Tar voIcE--I refer to the provision which provides
for the delivering up If fuCtives.
Mr.. Smith replied-That under that provision, any
man who owed work in State and fed to another
could be compelled to return to perform it.
The VoIcE-I want you to say whether it was not
the intention Of the trainers of that article to have it
extend 10 fugitive slaves
Mr. Smtb-Suppose we make deed of land be-
tween Us; would We be bound by the intention Of the
scribner, or the words CT the deed Laughter and
cbeers.l
The VoroE-Dont the words cover precisely the
case of the fugitive slave
Mr.. Smith said that this clause referred to persOns
from whom services due. Could slave owe
Certainly not This language could not DO referred 10
the slave. Mr.. Smith here quoted the decision of
Supreme Court Of the United States in bis support
A icb mart he ar
cratic, is ne Arrest right
In reply Mr.. Smith said he had no choice between
the parties they harmonzed on the question of pro-
lection from the dramshOp but the Republican party
had the advantage in one respects If had in its hands
the infamous State Temperance Society. Mr.. Morgan,
when in the Senate, the only member who lodged
the vote on the Temperance Law. Ten minutes be-
fore the vote was taken he in his seat, and ten
minutes after but when the vote was taken, for some
reason, he was absent. TUE NKw-ioRK TRIBUNE
said that Prohibition aud Republcanism are indie
pendent Of each other. II also said the Republican
party never adopted tie prohibition principle. That
party like the others, is willing to have the Govern
inelt defer to the slave power when the kldLapper
comes among us. Even the old Free-Soil party pro-
nosed the abolition of Slavery in the District Of CO.
iuubia but even this was not advocated by the Re
publican party Believing that all parties were alike
he could not favor either.
A VorcE-Do you regard the Fugitive Slave act as
unconstitutional
Nj. Smith replied that, taking it's words, he would
not; but taking the meaning Of its enactors ne DID.
A VoIcE-Do you believe that Kansas wonld have
been Free State in prospect If there had been no
Mr.. smith said he was glad that question hal been
asked. Kansas WAS saved, under God, by her own
strong ann and her brave spirits. To no man
was 20 much credit due to old John Brown OF
Osawattamie. Here Mr.. Smith gave brief sketch
of the Kansas struggles also read letter from joan
Brownl Great praise was due to Massashase''s Tor
Stearnesl had given 5000. Massachusetts also did
nobly in sending men theresending the right kind OF
men. There were now Ten free-,tate men 10 one
Slaves ate man; and could not such majority have
saved the State II Slave constitutions had been
piled upon Kansas he'll low-because Slavery never
reaches toward heaven-it never could have been
Slave State. Kansas owes her salvation to herself
A VoICr--I an sorry to see that Mr. Smlta seems
10 have the sagacity to occupy much time IN reply
ing that ne will not have TO submit 70 second ques-
ton The proposition submitted gentlemen, 10 tins:
Whether lie honestly believes, a. GerT Smith, the
phlanthropist that Kansas would to-day, 10 prospect
te Free State had there been no X publican party
in this country Now ask not for any rigmarole OF
Mr.. Smiths correspondence; l want HIM to speak
from his conscience as n mau. iChecrs. As can
ddate for the highest Office in the State OF New-f crk,
| want him 20 answer the question. submit 10 thiS
audience that there has been no answer 8t all.
@Hissesl ] do not ask for argument If he gives
us one want the privilege Of replying toit.
Mr.. Smith said he would pass over what was often
siye: he ought not TO have called his rgaina-
role If lie did not answer the question then, he did
not know where he was; he read and spoke 70 snow
how the thing lsy in his own mind end wound up WIN
repeating the declaration that the salvation OF Kansas
was owing to no party, but owing under God, to
herself. IVociferous cheers.l -.
The interrogation attempted TO be heard again, but
his voice drowned in the tunult the only audipie
words were, "fou are towards 1oo are al COW
ards ~ ~ GU are all cowards To add to the inter-
est voice Of thunder from the other side OF the house
roared out "Kensas is played out ~ Kansas IS
PLAYED ont" kansas il played out =
Mr.. Smith then came forward and said that they
ought to discuss this question quietly go
The PREsIDEsI-1he gentleman will come to Or
4 voIcE-whot is your opinion of the MetroPoi-
tan Police law ,,.,-..-.r
zation of civil power. Our cities should be competent
TO devise heir own Municipal regulations. This ma'-
ter should have been lett to -
Here some half dozen attempted 70 speak al the
,eme time. which produced considerable confusion,
hu, finally order was restored and the following ques
ton asked by 40
Slavery inter,st enlisted
Mr. Smith said that i was with the ke pubLcan.
A VoIor-Nhst Is your opinion on the Quarantine
question - -, d.,
Hospital was nuisance, ard the people had righl
10 abate it. lApplsuse Mr.. Smith said that 20 far a.
h. was informed Il was abolished with great defer
ence 10 the sick. II the right place coali hot De
found, Their create the right place-ihcy should bui'
al rlard for the purpose. ...ru.
a NoICE-Are you in isVor VI lne Ic'1S'oH VA nc
MIR. Smith said tha. he should always he in favor OF
sreviscu Us long il tsqualhd coloIod peopo ana
women from voting. .
Mr Smith was here askedhi opinion on The subject
Of poiyg amy and in reply said that the ciyIl govern
meIt could interfere with any religious faith which n
fincei upon common rights. The census table
showed that there was but one man to each woman
and che woman for each man. II followed that when
one man cot ten women he robped hire med aud
Whom one woman Should have ten husbands she
would rob nine women of their rights. Laughter.