Randolph County journal. [volume] (Winchester, Randolph County, Ind.) 1855-1862, 1858-05-13

HoUsE.-Mr. English called for the
regular order. being the consideration
Of the report Of the Committee of Con-
ference on the Kanzas Bill.
Mr. Clark. of New York, said that
he had intended to give his reasons
for voting against the substitute, but
nights sickness had left him physical
" unable to undertake the task. He
would merely now say that he regard
ed this new scheme as eminently obiec-
tionable in form, and still mose dan
gerous in substance. He would seek
the floor on some future occasion, to
deliver his views upon the subject.
Mr.. BRYAN, of Texas, gave the rea
sons why he had acted with the little
squad of Southern members on this
subject. After alluding to the re-
mark of Senator Seward, that he re-
gardcd the battle between Freedom
and Slavery as already fought, he said
he would do nothing to jeopardize the
Union of the South for the protection
of the South, w hich is much needed
THE ENGLISH SUBSTITUTE DOES NOT SUB
NIT THE LEcoMProS CONSTITUTION TO
THE PEOPLE.
Mr. Shorter, of Alabama, said he
had, with five OF six Southern Demo-
Gratis uniformly resisted the previous
question. lie had wanted time for dis
cussing it in order to arrive at IA corret
construction of the Substitute Bill.
He now found that the general con-
Struction was, that it did not refer the
Lecompton Constitution back to the
people of KanzaS. If he believed it
did he would vote against it, even with
the Black Republicans. The gentle
man from Georgia Mr.. Stephens
said that the Co stitution was not to
be submitted, and the gentleman from
Indiana, (Mr. English by his silence
acquicSced in that view. Therefore
h. (Shorter) would now cooperate
with the friends of the measure and
vote for the previous question.
CAMPBELL. CArECHlzEs THE BoLTERs.
Mr. Campbell, of Ohio, said that
his colleague, Mr.. Cox, at the COM
menc~ment of the Session, took the
banner of popular sovereignty in hand,
and trinmphantly defended it, but now,
| in full view of victory, he beat re-
treat.
Mr. Cox, of Ohio, wished to say that
he thought the amendment which the
House had passed to be the best, but
as this could not become law, he was
wiling to take the next best, under
the circumstances.
Mr. Campbell then asked Mr. Cox
whether he understood the bill present
cd bv the Committee of Conference,
as submitting TIE Lecompton Consti-
tuition to vote of the people.
Mr. Hughes, of Indiana, objected to
Mr.. Cox answering the question.
MIR. cox ADMITS THAT THE CONSTITUTION
is NOT TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PEOPLE.
Mr. Cox replied, however, that al
though the Constitution was not sub
mi;tcd directly, vet, in effect, the peo-
pie of kanzas will have the opportu-
nifty to say whether they want it.
Mr. Campbell wanted an uncquiv-
ocal answer. He then showed letter
written by Mr.. Cox, dated February
9th. in which the latter stated. that
while he had a vote it should never be
draggled in Lccompton mire, and that
so help him God, he never could dc
otherwise.
Yes, remarked Mr.. Campbell, my
colleague said he would vote for nc
proposition which would not submit
the Constitution to the vote of the
people.
MR.. cox on BOTH SIDES.
Mr.. Cox said he still endorsed that
letter. Mr.. Campbell referred to the
fact that about twenty Anti-Lecomptor
Democrats were pledged on a high
point of personal honor to stand to the
end by the Montgomery -Crittender
Amendment. in company with the Re
publicans. Mr.. Groesbeck of Ohio
replied that he had made no such
pledge, and had no such understanding
or consultation.
Mr.. Campbell replied that he did
not make the assertion with reference
TO that gentleman, and asked Mr.
Groesbeck whether he understood this
bill as submitting the Constitution
Mr. Groesbeck said, that in effect il
does.
Mr. Owen Jones, of Pa, remarked
that he had never given pledge tc
Mr.. Campbell, or any body else, thai
he would stand by the Montgomery
Amendment. or any other measure.
MIR. Campbell asked whether he die
not meet with what were known a.
Anti-Lecompton Democrats, and
whether or not Committee was not
appointed with power to represent and
speak for them 10 another body.
Mr.. Jones replied that he met OF
one or two occasions with certain Dem
ocrats, but no Committee of that kinC
was appointed or authorized to pledge
his vote on any subject.
Mr. Campbell then asked him
whether the bill submitted the Consti
tuition to the vote of the people.
MR.. JONES DoD6Es THE QUESTION.
Mr.. Jones replied that he was will
ing to let the people construe that foI
themselves. Laughter.
Mr. Benaam, OF ;. c., moved fol
the previous question.
Mr.. Grow, of Pennsylvania, moved
but the House refused, for call of tn,
House.
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