Arkansas true Democrat., 1858-03-16

ne NlCE PRESIDENT. The Chair S, understands. "
 MT. JOHNSON, of Arkansas. It must h, apparant that if this subject is to be considered to-day will certainly be consumed by if. de not believe that the S1nator from Kentuck hlmseIf has doubt in regard to that. Iii. plain that his discussion must carry us thronof the whole Kansas and Nebraska affair. It i. Kindred to that; and if it is to be discussed am sure there is in the Senate a vast amount oi metaphvsical, legal, and ancient lore on all thls subject, certainly sufficient to carry Il, through the whole of this day.
 Tn thls direction the Senate has already cone My honorable friend who meets me with 3 smile, Mr. Pugh, was the first to open it in that direction, and to announce questions which would come up in the discussion of the Kansas matter, as to the admission of States into the Union. Isee no limit to the field now befnre us know that for month we have been consid. erlng the Army bill, and that we have often felt that we were at the very point of taking the final vote on the question, either grantino relief to the government or rejecting it alto gether; but still for some petty question, or petty courtesy if you please, it has been laid over and deferred, until now we have the most serious qeshon of the session pressing right upon us l think it is desirable to dispose of the Army bill.
 1 cannot but feel that the honorable Senator from Kentucky must know that the question which he has presentei is in great measure an rrevelant issue. l. seems so to me. I will not go into a discussion of the merits of the case. The whole subject must come up at no distant day; and believe, in fact, that the bill for the admission of Minnesota was made the special order for to-day. It is certainly con- temp'ated to take up the whole subject on Monday next. There is but little time left us to dispose of the Army bill; and the public ex- igencv calling for it's passage has been urged upon ps as imminent important, and almost vital. l would appeal to the Senator, in this view of the facts, to withdraw his present mo- tion or to postpone it. I make this appeal to him TOW without saying any thing more; lo not believe that he wishes to impede the pub hc business, or delay the disposition of the Army bill.
 MT. CRITTENDEN. I did not hear the gentleman
 Mr. JOHNSON. of Arkansas I appeal to the gentleman from Kentucky, believing that he does not wish to impede the public bu- slness, and that the question which he has raised Is irrevelant and can result in no immediate ac- ton, to withdraw his proposition, which it must be palpable to him will consume the whole day.
 Mr. HUNTER Will my friend allow me to suggest thlt we agree to refer this matter to the Committee on the Judiciary at once We can do that without debate, if the S.naCor of Kentucky will consent to it, l imagine
 Mr. CRIrTENDEN That would be serd ing 1t a long way off--sending it to the grave. ral her.
 MT. JOHNSON, of Arkansas. would not emharraSS the Senator from Kentucky by ma Nng any unreasonable request of him. Ger tainly with no disrespect to him, I move to law the question on the table I think that will end the discussion. I have said nothing in a spirit that could provoke reply, an1 I must ll- sat on my notion
 Mr. SEWARD. I appeal to the honorable Senator 10 allow me to say one word in expan ation of my vote.
 Mr. JOHNSON. of Arkansas. The S,na. tor knows so well that l would io almost any thing to obliJe him, that I am sure h, will not take 1t unkiad if I decline 10 withdraw the motion.
 Mr. IVERSON. Task for the yeas and nays on the motion
 MT. HOUSTON. I wish to suggest that perhaps the Senator from Ke lucky is prenareI on the subject; and IS he seems to have exam med II thoroughly, he may cast some mnortant light on it; and l was in hopes he would be Der mltted to proceed without interruption, and that the matter would rest there, without any further discussion. I am anxious 70 hear his views. really think we should permit him to % on.
 Several Senator's. He has concluded.
 MT. JOHNSON. of Arkansas. must raise a question of order diclincd to withdraw my motlon for the Senator from New York. and certainly cannot withdraw the motion now for any one else *
 Mr. JOHNSON, of Arkansas. Mir. Presi- dent, 1t has not been my hlbt to consume the time of the Senate; bu. [ desire on th, occa- sion, to say few words in explanation of the vote l shall give. I have listened to the speech which has just been delivered bv the Senator from Tennessee, and believe t trepresents quite talry the opposition which hls hi-herto been m lde to the passage of this bill Some gentle men base their opposition on the conviction that there will bc uo Mormon war. He gnes still further, aud Is quite severe in his comments on the Administration. He has made remarks which, to ne, clearly imply that he i> of opn- ion that rhev have determined to force a war.
 Mr. BELL. did not say that
 MT JOHNSON, of Arkansas If the Sen ator wii review his remarks tp- morrow, thuk he will find that that s the natural conclusion from what hr sa l.
 M-. BELL. l tried to guarl against that said that If an error hal been committed by ths administration, the circumstance, were such thatauv other administration mi Ght have com mjtted it, and tha5 l did not mpute 1t to any purpose on ther part to have d war. thought |. | | l.,-4 4I measures, and that is the hope expressed. I did not say that they were determined to wage a war whether it was necessary or not dis claim that.
 Mr. JOHNSON, of Arkansas. The sincer- ty of the Senator from Tennessee, which be- lcve may say is time honored, will never be questioned by me; and have no doubt, from what he now says, that it was not his intention to make any imputaton of that character He said, however, that he did not believe there would De any Mormon war, and as couse- queuce he does not believe these troops will De really necessary. There are considerations be- yond these, which it seems to me ought to ad : dress themselves to the consideration of the Senate on this occasion; and some of them I feel very sensby myself. The impression of the Senator from Tennessee evidently is, that there will be no war or no serious difficulty with the Mormons.
 Mr. BELL 1 said hoped there would be none.
 Mr. JOHNSON, of Arkansas I ask the Senator now, if he believes there will be no contest with them?
 Mr. BELL. do not think there will be any such contest as will make it necessary to call out volunteers or additional troops; but, neverthe- less, l would provide them, for fear it might be so.
 Mir. JOHNSON, of Arkansas. Then sug- gest to the Senator that he should admit at once that the administration sincerely believe the contrary.
 Mr. BELL. I should not hesitate to admit that. l do not feel myself called upon to say that do not think they are sincere. think they are.
 Mr. JOHNSON, of Arkansas The decla rations of the administration, which are before us in the message of the President and in the reports of the proper departments can leave no doubt on our minds that it Is their earnest con vicion that we shall have serious difficulties in Utah; and, if may use the term as applicA- be within the limits of the Untited States