The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-10-07

speech made on the subject Ia Troy several years ago.
10 have tho public school Protestant school, but
such fact the Catholics excluded from
by their religious views lie hoped however, they would
not conound his sentiments this subject with those OF
Governor Seward who suggested that share Of the
mon school fund should be apportioned the Catholic
schools lie was Tor breaking up the whole public school
system.
FUGITIVE SLAVES.
Another inquired what he would do about fugitive
slaves ii he were elected Governor
Mr.. SmIH answered that he would call upon the Legs-
ature 70 pass thorough personal liberty law to declare
every innocent man in the State entitled To- his freedom
VoItr-including tho lndansf
Mr.. SaIH-oh yes never knew innocence TO be con-
fined TO any particular color Of the skin Oaugher He
went TO Albany last year what ne do in refer
ence to the passage Of personal liberty law OF course
clause Of the constitution which required the return OF
chatcl property He allowed no book-not even the BIZ
bie-to decide what was man. The rights OF man re-
side not in books or paper charters, but in themselves
lAppause) Well he went, on that occasion, also 70 the
Governor Of Governors, Thurow Weed. UAugher.l
daughter and applaise.) He then wen. to work as
lobby member, and earned the reputation OF being tho
I best lobby member ever o,, known IN Albany;
not get majority Of tho republican members
to vote for thorough personal liberty BILL He went
away dsheartoned, but with the conviction that II he
Governor he could speedily have such law passed
But whether they had such law not, Il would make
difference with him about rescuing his poor coorcd
brother sister from the hands OF the kidnapper he
Governor and found that the people lost to
their own humanity as NOT TO cave the victim from the
grasp Of the kidnapper, he would summon military
force enough TO savo him. cloud appla,,so) TO save
the least black babe from tho hands OF the kdnappcr no
would see rivers Of blood shed. Hsscs lie repeated
that his sympathics all with the innocent none
with the guilty. (Appiause)
THE coNsIITt TIoSAIHy VIEWS.
curious individual wanted to know how Mr.. Smith
could reconcile these views with the constitution of the
United States
Mr.. sMITr-why where's the dHlcultys He should
pursue antfsavcry cotusc and should rejoice to
that in fun coincidence with the preamble Of the
constitution Of the United States
The same person inquired whether that preamble pre-
vailed tic specific article OF the constitution in re
ference to the return Ct fugitive slaves.
MIR. SMITH had rcvcr seen scch an artcc-would the
gentleman point il oCt TO him.
The gentleman bad not the constitution by him. but Mr.
Smith knew what he meant.
MIR Sau-Oh yes; the provision about returning fugi
tivcs bound TO seryicea very good provision Under
two fugitves from that nst ton. daughter and ap-
pause.) A very good provision indeed!
The gentleman asked whether the trainers OF the cons
tuition did not intend that clause to apply TO savess
Mr.. SMITH answcred:-Suppose You aud should pass
deed OF land between us and should employ scrvener
to be controlled by the intention Of the scryener,
by the words Of the deedS daughter and appause)
1ht clause referred to persons from whom services
are due. According to the slave laws, slave
is a chael. Can chattel any more than horse
horse blocks Certainly not They were never to go,
when they had the open innocent meaning Of any law
mousing about hidden, guilty meaning
DEMOCRACY AND RErrBlIcANEA.
Another Gentleman asked which party, democratic or
republican, came nearest right in his opiniony
Mr. sMuii-Do you also include the native American
MIR Smith did not SEQ much distinction between the de-
mocrac and the republican parties except that the re-
publican party lad this advantagc-that it got mo its
hands the infamous State Temperance Association and
that members Of that association were going about saving
that Mr. Morgan practical temperance Well,
they knew that Mr.. Morgan not practical tenn
porancc He was the only Senator who lodged a
vote the prohbitory law. Ten minutes before the
vote taken Mr.. Morgan was in his seat and ten
minutes after the vote taken Mr.. Morgan in his
seat; bu, he was his when the vote taken.
B,rllal WAS not
out by irresistible necessity. Cloud laughter and ap-
pausc The republican party did not propose to abolish
slavery anywhere in the and--athough even tho free
State party with the cunning Van Buren, at its head pro-
posed TO abolish slavery in the District Of Columbia al
though the wing party with Daniel Webster at its head
proposed to abolish the inter State slave trade He ad
mted that there were more temperance men and more
than ranks Of the democratic party but they had
not been able TO mould their party's views He, there
fore, saw no difference between Mr. Morgan and Mr..
Parker.
Another gentleman asked Il Mr. Smith considered the
Fugitive Slave law unconsttutionals
Mr. SMITH answered that, II he judged by the words OF
the act he would say constitutional; but II it
held 10 Apply to slaves he certainly held to be uncons
tutional
Another asked whether Kansas would be free State IN
prospect had u no, been for the republican partys
Mr. SMITH answered that Kansas had been saved from
slavery b, the strong hands and brave hearts Of her PEG
pie To credit more due for this than TO Old
John Brown Of MISUNDERSTANDING John Brown, he
H. called. (Appausc) He read part OF letter from this
Capt Brown In relation TO the murder OF Capt Montgo
merry men, ana suggesting that ne Wouu soon neeu "
drai Of money for the support Of his men He spoke OF
merchant in Boston, (fr. Scarns) having contributed
81 the fighting fund in Kansas Massachusetts, did
nobly in sending men and money and Sharpe rifles q
Kansas. Kansas had been saved by such means She
had less than ten free State men TO
one slave State man. hid not they believe that,
under God, slavery could not be forced upon
Kansas with such dsproporon in favor OF frcedomf
When there was so much excitement last winter
Of the Lecompticn bill he sat very Tranquil content that
civil should come, Il should be there and then Kan
sas could never have been cnsayed lie was thankful 70
all tf1
cct but Kansas owed her salvation, not TO any parity
but To her sons. (Cheers)
Mr. SNnH would hear the next question.
TK CAnamsr sorry TO see that Mr. Smith seemed
have the sagacity not 10 wish 10 submit 10 second
him as phlanthrops whether he honestly believed that
Kansas would be today in prospect free State there
had not been republican party thus country lie DID
from private letters but he wanted hs question fairly an
swcrcd.
voir--n IL answered.
The CAYuur1-I submit that was answer at ALL
Usses) ak Mr.. Smith whether he believes, in his
science that Kansas would be day free State in
I~ct had there REPUBLICAN party In the country
Mr.. Ssrm would pass over what was offensive IN the
question. Tho gentleman should not have called bis an
rgmarole Who doubted that he had answered the
gentleman question: lie had showed that the salvation
&C Kansas owing to no party but was owing, under
God, TO herself loud and continued applause.) =.
The UssATrfrFp CArEEHr-l would submit 70 MI.
Smith
the gentleman cried out, in an excited voice. towards,
al OF u this the liberty, gentlemen that we are 10
have hcrcf' Continued hisses.)
Mr. SwTu-Tet the audience be quiet The salvation OF
Kansas not owing TO the republican party or TO any
other PARTY.
AvoIcF-Kansas Is played out. 0aughter.)
The cahechs strovc To- get In some other remarks hut
Missed and all he could get say was cowards
all
Mr.. SMuu-IC' rs discuss this thing quietly.
ymtt-Not Kansas.
METROPOLITAN roIicT LAW.
ANOTHER voicY--will Mr. smith give his opinion about
the Metropolitan Police lawf Uaughtcr.)
Mr. replied that he jealous of the centraliza
ton or political power lie would have the central power
al Albany a niinshed He would have the towns and
cities allowed a. exercise their municipal authority
The prcscnt police increased the power OF the admin
sfaon Of the State government He was jealous OF tit
power aud would have II dfgscd. daughter aud an
plause.)
vocr-Governor, what do you think OF land rciormr
The GOVERNOR agreed with Thomas jefferson, that the
mud ihal the