The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1858-05-28

g Yos have never received any money. except |
~ w sent you by Stooef A. have NOT and resei I
thst at the end OF q session during waioh had v4orou
opposed the BILL from no gu n ter did receive do
ior having me duties removed from railroad iron; I
letter uds aorien 10 Dsdhs Laurence pav reasonable )
for scheme of mine sohi n 10 benefit them mit
dollars
HON. MAssA GRKnKY ON THE STAND.
SATURDAY, Feb n, lSsd
Q Are you acquainted with any Of the members Of
arm o. lAvrsnce, S.ose OoS A. am acquainted "
O. Aro you acquainted si.h Mr. M..tesoa, mepba
the Housed Yes, sir
@. sta,o whether any proposition was made to
about the latter part OF summer FALL in reereI
70 the ceposit OF money 10 your hands, under your d
A. never heard OF such thing
Q Did you ever have any conversation with Mr.. Mal
sou In reference TO tho natter A. No, sir; the subj
OF the tariff was mentioned here when was hers
years ago by Mr. Stone. Mr.. Matteson may have spod
Of Il; cannot say be did not
Q State whether 1t any Of these interviews anyth|
passage of the tariff A. will state what the interv
was. I YVES in my room at the National Hotel, whed
stopped during that winter, when Mr. Stone called
me letter OF mine which stated that Congress would
nothing about the tariff that was idle TO talk a6oud
He SAD 81 am bere, and want something dons"
you friend of tie DufsCsurers, and deprs
ed and ruined and cannot GET along without legsiat
and must have 1t TO help the woollea nAnufactur
You throwing obstacles in my way" Ireplied !,
I'm your FRIEND believe that legislation IL neoessa
and have always held and said that the wo0len MAJ
isc.urers cannot get along without It; but see q
Presidential election upon US, and the Kansas question
SETTLE ard nothing can be doAe IN the matter this sess
somssbps may be done ct another session I" That Ia
spirit AID substance OF oil that took place between uS
tho interviews We bad upon tho subject.
q Was anything said TO you at those interviews %
the means 70 DO used in influencing the passage Of
hint MAJ nc IA ha n
other than such you and would talk about tho 10
epce Of newspapers; he objected to my saying anyth
sgsDst action; but nothing Was sad about money in
way
Q. Do you know whether any thing was paid the N
York Tribune establishment for using its influence in
vor Of the passage OF the bni A. am very sure I
nothing was paid nor amp thing suggested about BE-
| paid, nor offered 10 be paid There was nothing
| my knowledge ever paid even for advert
think never saw Mr.. Stone any OF the hrm dur
the recess Of Congress-, except on tho morning OF
| Presidential election when met Mr.. Stone ~ he
gong 70 vote, and think he told me he was going 10
for Fillmore; We did not say anything about the Ia
and there has been communication between any "a.
Der Of the firm OF Lawrence, S,ons Co, aud myself
that subject since those interviews In the National He
until last week.
| Q Had you any conversation, or do you know q I
conversation, with Mr.. Mhttes0n or any other person
terested in the passage OF the bill about enlisng
influence Of the tribune and contributing money fire
| for that purpose A. I never heard such Q c
versation in the world; never knew that there :
| u conversation between Mr.. Matteson any mem
! Of Congress and Lawrence, Stone Co., until 4
il in the newspapers this winter; and wish to s.
additionally that never heard or suspected that mos
had been paid TO insure any action on the tariff BY
last Co.'s ress until the recent erpose, (Which
| first in my own paper). OF tbs kiddiesex or Bay s.
MILLS Company ~ben tina. came out, and we heard
money had been paid TO newspapers, we inquired 81
Sud made noise Of course that was the frat he
| Of
O whea were you last IN washipgton9 A. On
second day OF July, 1861 not since until you called
here q day two ago; was here for Few days In
and the urst OF July, whom the Topeka bill was no.
that is the only time hare been here since the vints
| 1866
O Do you know Of any combination Of any kind
! sbout that time for the forwarding OF this q
/ thr ugh Congress In which money 10
useof A. [ know nothing OF the kind. I ,
here within ach st any time when the 'arf
before the last Cenges and did not hear about the n
EXCEPT from tee vague te grsphc dispatches and mss
reports In the newspapers all that winter; left
York on the l4th Of January, 1857, on iecturing
through the West and returned on the 28h OF Feors
10 find my only Just dead the next day (the lat
March) WAS the Sabbath, and the I'd OF March (Mond
fixed tor the funeral but could not take the b.
10 The burial ground on account OF severe spo sto
and we buried my son on the I'd or March, which was
last cay Of the session, and am con6dent-theee d.
being fixed in my mipd-that heard nothing Of tho
until the session was over; had some discussion
tons concerning the tariff, but knew nothing, OK,
from the journals, about during the time yoa had
subject before you me, Mr. Stone Al messing OF
credors Of the Crystal Palace few days ago. and aer
| meeting be came 30 me and fad, 81 had 70 use
| name st Washing ton !" asked him. Glad you ever
.and To did no, cay had but Mr.. Ms..ssou came i
once In New York, and SAID, in substance, what toai
before the committee" Mr.. Stone added that the
Mates on's appeared in the Nex York Times II /,
eraphsd from Washington before he gave the testino
| q. You never heard Mr.. Matteson say anything al
receiving money! A The only time saw Mr.. Ma,t
recently some six weeks ago, Is passed thro
Utica returning from the West; met him at the
surprised tina. he there instead OF being at
hsvf of
Lawrence, Stone Co investigation, said TO him, :"
Matieson, bad you ever AM thing TO DO with Iswre
stone Coz .'So, sir, !" replied he, al never hal !
thing 10 do with them In the world;' that was the
stArce ef the conversatioa, far ~ related this
1 ter; think heard Mr.. Mstteson, when was here
years ago, say, 1.-The wcoilen manufacturers viii hsv
ray )" or Evil he glad 10 pay, or something Ike this
cannot recoect the words fer such alteration Of
tariff they require but be never proposed thatl
ceive II on deposit or otherwise, and did not supl
him 20 be connected with authorized 10 speak for
| woollcn men; curing the time this subject was actu
before .ne a.. oonsiess, ~ ls soooso ,sss ., ma
| subject vbatever
| o u MA11rsors rysnsosY--M n IsTTRmUD IN WOO
Ortsmus y. MsttssoD. sworn.
q. You we're member Of the last House? A. I
until within three days OF the close of tbs session
Q. State 10 the com pit,ee whether you had any
sstion With any member o the firm Of Lawrence, Ster
Congress relation 10 the passage of the tariff q II
A. Yes, str, had, and perhaps ought 10 state Why
Il ~ u =
very large amount Of money IA invested In msnufaclu
| wool a. well cotton; had some interest mysef
very large establishment; there had been some cor
| ponderce between the arm OF Lawrence, Stone Co
friends In my district, ard learned that Mr.. stone
attempting to get the duty reduced on wool;
Ia New York called 81 his store sometime In the re
and bad Q conversation with him the subsct; r.
lee; going 10 his store, for u was little ways from
hotel we bad quite q nversaon about the matter,
importance OF the wool interest, what ought 10 be
and bov immensely important Il 10 that interest
| the dutcs on coarse woods should be reduced; dc
recolect having any conversation with him ater the
| 10 which am nov slluding called upon him then
my neigh bors, and manufacturer 70 see what he
doing, what he expected 10 accomplish, and what nle
| II would he 10 woods 70 reduce the duties.
1 MATHEW Lars our TIE TARIFF PROGRAMME.
q Was anything "a during thai conversation abou
| means which ought 10 be used 70 secure the pssag
| the tariff A. told him that did not think anyu
could be done that would CARY The bill, unless be
get the representatives from the wool districts VT
sheep were grown 10 see the thing n; that
could not get any bill through unless they SAT-,
| was right; I do not remember the conversation now
| enough 70 give Ne exsot details; remember that
him the bill could not pas without the aid OF those re
sepatives, and thai could nos get them unless Ne
shed their constituents, who owned and raised sheep,
| II would not destroy their business We talked all
bearings OF the thing over; told him tha the argun
70 be used With them vae that " We could start al
voollen mills then lying idle, u would make better
RAJ fof Ia dox a. ~