The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-02-20
PRIUE TWO CENTS

rcver IN my he slsop ssoro.,n man l. %,
,nrcu,h and srei eHoeesasy ,S., evor ,,eoed TO
BY Mr. Orr (s1hibiins the p~p.r produoe1 b. NJ,
Sweeney )-s thai the order you Bsvef
BY Mr. orr 90 you re- rem,uoer s,dsy What q, -oop
stances the application noin 70 you 70 pat shis pro
whom il made,
NO Ds.lIsGa WIN o'B-rY rAnry Usss
Wtnes-hs recoilecuon OF Ia cots: think s1ess was
probably desire the part OF oo'n parties iast 81
VINO had made the proposal .ao,ed sonetnny % sno~
for 1t, and wshns to nave soh deanog wite
| the hands Of . third patty,
By Mr. Orr-who came TO you for tnis papcr'
~wwDess-M, ~ ~s"eeSey, and gsve the writing npos
lect the substanos OF what my end
,1e %moer Consr' ,, ~ ' as r hates TO ne cnns ans
we hao other a. To tho prospect Of passing
The resolution
By Mr.. Orr-You unsers,ood whom Mr. s~seney made
application " you for ths writing wnat ne unosnT
TIE WAY AN M AND HousK mEssssGsR ooms ovn
wness-I told him l very glad 70 oe relieved
from the posoo u having any cont, with . mbs<
Of Congress ON the subject never oxpecte TO ioqmre
who received the money. intended 70 keep mysef
ignorant upon thai matter could with Q strong
upon the subject Is my i'm presson when Mr 5w~e
nty made application tn Tor the wyi,inx ,hAs
made oonsequsnoe interview which nsd tsxss
place between him and the member do not know thai
he sno over han con versAton about at all The rusb
n that Mr.. Sweeoey naIiy upon mo
ject. He kr rew all about the matter from the first sup
posed ,Dss he was a trisn, Of .hi: ps,y. ana tbsII
paid him Il would be satisfactory 70 the party
BY Mr. Orr-What wss the nsme OF the member
wnness--I have told you everything tina, relates TO
The Committee unanimously decided thai tha witpss
vas hound 70 answer the question.
GIIBnxT the MAN.
witness William A. Gilbert, Of New York, ID the
son have referred 70. VI course had converse ton
thing which seemed ike q denoe understanding with
member. There was nothing approaching oontSscs
with I ybody else.
SATURDAY. Jan. ". 1851.
MR.. GEORGE w. CHASE. AN EX-M. c., ON THH
STAND.
George W. Chsse sworr-i citizen Of tho StAse Il
New York; have formerly been member OF Cong ess
BY Mr. Orr-BAve you been engaged during the pro
sent Congress prosecuting any claims. IN pes
rage Of rairtsd grant bills other oils Of ~
description, before the House OF Representatives
oBJsors TO PRIVATE sAIrr@ BsrsG MADE runass-
Ksows LAW AsD has BssS A MAGISTRATE
Witntss-I did not kno- that private matters
were 70 be brought In question am wilog 70 answer
ali questions touching aoy connection have bad
with members Of Congress vr regard 70 any mattss
before Congress. I am Q tanner by trade ana mev
chant carrying gooa deal Of business and anytuns
Of this kind might ipJure my business 10 Asl
know what rules govern the committee. understaad
pretty we'll the rules that govern the courts OF law for
have served . magistrate twelve years can ~
nothing about corruptions here for know nothing sbo
By Mr. Ri;cbie-Have you had any Interest," direcs o.
indirect to result from the passage deios OF any ~
rHs DpysnssT SORTS or nr1usscs
WItncss-I have bad influence 10 the defeat ok an0
Mr. orr-Have you bad any Interest in the passage
Wits ess-rhat 10 . question which should prefer md
10 answer now should prefer 10 have little time "a
think OF H. and SEQ what bearing u going To have
An immediate answer being required by tas comma
tee.
Has An Isrsanr IN r,Is MINNESOTA LAND BrL TO Hss
YOUNG NAN AIosG-vKrs wAsnrsoros unuu--
ANXIOUS WISCONSIN RAILROAD
Witness r,epouds d. suppose shoun bs Interested n
Q certain I'll II II should pass toe House-the Minas
sofa Lard bull an member OF one OF tue oomps-
nies In Minnesota for Of the limos contemp sted-
the TrAnst Company. yourg man, who mas been siA
ten twelve Yeas wsnted 20 20 West no intsndsA
70 60 West In the sprhg 81 wanted help him tnAs
that rosc and s~poy him 70 70 there and .ass care q
biz Interest," am enc OF twenty two Whose nsmes ere
IN The charter own believe, about twenty i've scarss
ness came here on scoount OF my health, BY the sd
vice OF my physicisn; do not know OF any member
Congress Interested In thar road OF the xeAty swo
persons whose appear In the charter; gave NJ
Dame In part 10 help this young man. and In psr for my
=.w0er Ooosrsss may have in the passage oi ssss
bii 90 NOT know whether there have been any othss
sent Copsress In vbloh have been Interested a. as
ss.ni or party hsve taken IN interest in ois-ha1
about II; was vcry anxious for hc passage OF tho W.
con'in railroad b' and did all could lcs,t na.eiy as
~ pasesse 40 not know .bas ~as TO n,vc for n:
tave not had anything; { do not kpo. any MON ocr =
Congress who mad an iHcrcs, In that bill either direos
BY Mr. Or-Dd you - The ageu, or IN any sshss
capacity Of any company or oompAnles execute
yS 20 .ny or ani @r .oy ou
eiuoo that any railroad OIL passed or pend;ag In In
Gong ess should pssa,
the bond produc~d; then could toll " dre~M
ny Mr. orr-Dd you execute such bono or ooliss-
~ srArD UPON TIE Dup AND reRyxr ov MY Bosso
wiiness-I do not wish 10 answer unIs" the bond b.
By the Cha,ymss-You are called upon W snsuss
whether you executed such bond and not 70 state vhsa
witness (.nsr sone he.itauop)-I would rather noa
spsvW that question; am net prepared 70 state ~
rsasoos for declining 70 answer; I do decline
BY the Ghsirmsp-rhere 10 but that u
Committee will recognise valid FOR declining 70
you say you oanso, ans~cr viIaou, your snsvw
eliminating or tending 70 oriminass yodrse, you ny
pssrHs TO TAKE COUNSEL BDoss ACKNOWLEDGING ~
witness-I cam not tell whH effect may nave; thss
point want TO examine an not prepared 70 dAAe
on the matter and hnov What would be the rcsuI, de
NOT know bot The committee may have the power 70
force an sns-er; DO not want 70 do any hing mprsp~
but should Ike 10 iahe the advice OF counsel
The witness then dismissed I'll the next day.
E7IAB KINGMAN, THE CORRESPONDENT 0P
THE NEW YORK JOURNAL OF COMMERCE
AND BALTIMORE SUN, ON THE STAND.
OF the pvess In ihs city.
By Mr. Orr-H~ ever any proposition been made 70
and ands n confederation Of your aiding the passaGs
Of rarosd or Other land grant 10 Congress through
mas HrsS rwnrr Yr,ss IN vAmSoros KNOWS -
rHua.
Whoerr-A nc'of o'uNefrco Nhn huF mem Der OF Ooo-
srsss upon the srbjcct, and received any
,ure from any member Of Congress subject nsvs
heard nothing OF the com binauon 10 the pres
against members OF Congress out what have heard for
the last twenty years; know nothing Of u Of my osu
knowledge; DO not know Of any corrupt in11epce re-
sorted 70 10 procure the passase OF measure dufns
the present Congress; dd Ishould state very frank
y DO not kno~ Of my o~n knowedge Of any membes
having any interest direct lndlrec;. n any
passed or pendng n Congress, hare heard rumoss fw
sr'a many years Of member, being ineres ed In this
thing or tbat thing have 10 every paper IN ths
United states bu, DO not knou OF any TACT ,esds
10 prove the existence 0 such o natter.
JAMES s. PIKE, CORRESPONDENT OF TIE
NEW YORK TRIBUNE, ON THE STAND
Janes :. PIKE, sworn sm one OF tue writer's The
Nc~ York Tvsns have no kno wledge OF any com
nations amoog members Of Oonare % or OF Others outside
who have SUCCESSFULLY operated upon members Of Don
gress 70 secure or defeat the pssssge o. bills
pendn that have been pending during the preeent
Congress do not knov whether any members OF ucn-
uess have been Interested 10 any bills resolutions
that bsve been brought before the prcscut Congress