The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-02-20

any CONSIDERATION would psss 70 them In %hs svs Of shs
passage Of tue OIL
Wires None whsieves.
by Mr. Orr-were any lands, any other va'usbss
confederation, demanded n yos By sz1 member o6 Goa
great
waness- Never by the slightest manner or inuns.
lion
BY Mr. ORR long did you remain herss
Wuness-Abuut i've o.ys
By Mr. orr-wll you state what arrangements you
made 'or the pa cage OF tns DILL II there we're an made
other than those you have Already statedt
ARRAsGEsESrs IN WASHINGTON
wnnsse-Ii the Committee will allow me 20 20 on I
will explain my Whole connection the matter. When
here. under tue direction OF the executive co n
mes, ire matter stood In about this way: under Goa
usc, made with inc 5a,s Of Iowa our company was 70
receive "A OIo aores Of I'd for every sac oOo az
Under decision az hs OF the Land
Office. the progress OF work checked. Il wss
oecoed that the the grant could only extend the
tsry Of the Interior told oin what hal DONE
gired u come TO ngres aud GET PASSED
Stuart cb.insn Of the Comm. Sst0'0 on nun puSc
Lands In the Senate, came In, and Ne McCeIaad
said be vas the vo,y man 20 talk with. 1 explained
tbe whole thing 80 bin, ami told MN hat what want
ed recognition OF Secretary Walkers decision.
then ven, 10 Ne. Harrington, member Of
the House OF Representatives from wa who mad taken
60 Deal OF nleres, In the matter, and Who ,ucsd
bill on the subject which referred TO the Committee
on Pubic LsDds After conve sston With Mr. Stuart, Il
and then rent 70 tho senate Mr. rhorngtoa advised
TO the other members Of the committee did so:
action upon It There Was opposition to the TO
which the dec'ars,ory resclur carried the grant, II
Respects they did modify It 90 essentially,
that thought was worth nothing for our pur pose,;
and fps'y left II with Mr.. rhorington, without gong
him that be could not get the report from toe com
miaee We had made all the interest that kne~
hSs r.ss
Of Copgrcss l knew, 10 explaining the mAttsr
to them, and had been particularly 80 With the mem
hart nd diaiy lam mad m
him everything had done from the oeg nning and he
had taken zeaous interest In the BILL protesting TO do
purely obge his friends from county, for seve
RAJ Of the stockholders Of c,mpany from that county
were bis political Is we'll ~ personal friends. Having
done al that could do here con Auded that would
this subject about the first OF July had .. this time
but very little exp citation OF getting favorable report
from the committee Do you ash me now what arrange
menu uadeS
BY hr. Orr-I do.
HORACE GRn1xr, or THE rRIBuSs PAID 81 900 TO HELP
- THE THROUGH
Witness (aner stating condition Of tho bin when
no eft the city All that did tnis made drdT
IN faor Of eraes Greeley f~ s. 900 oasca RENTED
the committee should be made, and should become
cesessary 70 Obtain any further old for the pas
ne Il. l had never convorsed with Ar Cree
ley upon the subject myself, but he was intmaely
quanted with some ef our stosk holders and 90 under
stood had taken strong interest in hs passage Of this
resolution. Having made this draft, went nome and
received The SANCTION Of the executive committee for 30
By Mr. Orr-What wss that 81 900 forY
GknIlY RK1AISEp TO rnoS rhs PASSAGE OF III. BILL
wnness-k Vas retainer for counsel, and advice to
aid IN procuring the passage OF tho bill.
By Mr. Orr-was II merely as counsel foess
used entirely in hi: d.crsoo TO I'D in the passage Of this
bill II the bill passed the House. we were willing 70 pay
By NJ or To whom
GRIZZLY TO HAVE TIE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
Wituess-To Mr.. Greeley. Kthe bill passed tho Hsuse
we oonsidered 1t - sooa a. passed oy Copsress was
here longer, and left Il cn&ely With him 70 mako
suoh arans ementa a. he saw proper.
By the Cnairman-rhen this 81 coo you sent him was
employ persons herc 70 attend 10 the passage
q The bill In the HouseS
GREELEY sArl MAN
WNuess-No, sir, not 10 here left Il entirely Ia
his discretion, TO be used he thought best. supposed
that he connected with Mr. Hunt, treasurer,
and With other members of the oompaay shat he was
saie 70 leave the meter with
BY the CharmAn-wss sot M. Reverdy Johnson en-
ployed ~ agent Of the company
GRs8iEY DIDN'T MoSKY.
wiiness-He was relied upon by the company
sell but thought he did not pay the matter sunceot
attention did not see him vhe was here. Tue Presi-
dent OF the company who lives In the city part Of the
tune was not here had one 10 advise with, and AZ
Mr. Greeley had been strong friend Of the measure
paid usess the bill passed toe House. ana hsd very lit.
tie expsc,.sion Of having to pay anything whatevsr
By Hr or,nd you give any instructions how TO dis,
wiiuess--No cir. only gave iustsuosons not TO use
exoeps In the event OF the panags Of Tho bill through
By Mr. Warner Al whose request did you draw this
dram in favor Of Mr.. Greeley:
Witness-At the request OF no one.
TIN MosxY USED.
BY nr. Ntohie-Do you know whether this 81. 900 was
witness-Yes, sir, IL was.
By Mr.. RisOhie-Do you know what disposition was
made ofM
Wuuees-I old not know II had been used until foar
months s'tefwardx ! do MOI know wnss became Of Is;
only have my suspicions
could 90. 60, favorable report from the oonm,so
Public lands
By Mr. Orr-You leaned that there were aim ,utes in
the way Of IL being reporssd'
TIE GEOGRAPHICAL erTBstI GRANT.
qu~ou ~. IN me as: place whssSer the Sra.. eI
tended into Minnesota Territory 81 oil and then there
question In committee 70 the Two prong, Of the
river-thc eastern branch and wossArn branch. Tho
government had applied tho grant "a branch and the
other would have been shovses There several DIR
did nos know when hsrs. learned OF opposition
which could not trace 1t al. supposed that wss
VERY PAN mater H.. " To-, we're Tho .s'nS
We were very much embarrassed by the delay.
BY Mr.. Orf-nd Mr.. Greeley ever exhl os 70 you any
voucher o, make any returns 70 yoa Of the sxpeadi
NOTHING BnARD FROM ossuEr AyTR m COT TIE rsoc.
DOLLARS.
wtDsss-No, sir; | went Vest and never heard Q
vor6 from Mr.. Greeley q oil. had the siigntcs,
idea that had been paid and had shghtes, idea
snat u had besn used unu - hte ~ OCTOBER has toe
nrh inimaton Of IL in this way had letter from
Of M. Mai.sson's pohtioal friends, charging and
chaGng Mr.. johnson, the president OF our company,
with having used . tain letter written BY Mr MAJ
teson 70 M Johnsou against him. for which he used
threais, and expressed great indignation. ! made no
reply, but stated when met the gentleman that there
vas not one word Of truth In h-that I had never al
luded 70 the l0ticr learned then, for the erst time
that this drafs had boon paid. have not seen Mr. Mat
toson than twice since that time, and then not 4,
speak Of this mater. bat | mot Mr.. Greeley
some three weeks ago In New York. He told
me that he had received the money, but tua;
be had personal interest inh He did not volunteer
TO tell where the money had gone. did IKE TO ask
him, because thought could ascsrtan some other say
thought the treasurer OF oar company you'd know but
when saw him Afterwards no did not knos. Mr. Greeley
stated that be had carried be dram Tor time expect
ing 70 Zee The parties 70 deliver MP; that vent 70 Mr.
Hunt the treasurer Of our pany. the matter had
been brought officially before executive com mtee,
and the money paid before my arrival had been pre-
sent, would no. have been pad without knowing
something more about H.
By Mr.. 0r-Then, although you drew the drsn yeu
did pos know vha disposition had been made Of the funds
In VI AZ. md knoU he