New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-11-18
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THE ENGLISH TURF AND THE AMERI
CAN HORSES.

On Tuesday, Oct. a. there came off, at the Hough.
ton meeting at Newmarket, the last, except the Au-
tumn Cup at Liverpool of the great sporting events of
the year 1857, in which the American horses taken
out by Mr.. Ten Brock, contendsd with some OF the
best horses in FL gland, and crowd of inerior-in all
80 starters.
The facts of the race we gave in Q quotation from
The London Times Of Oc. 49, in our Saturdays i'sus
The race was won by Mr. 7. Pans Odd Tick,
three years DID, caryiog O2 lbs. who came in an easy
victor, by two lengths.
The sect nd was Lord John Scotfs hGstssims, three
wears old with SO lbs. on her back bestrg only by
neck.
The third, Mr.. Jacksons Saunterer, three years old,
carrying 12l lbs 10 lbs than the winner and 81
lbs more than MGstissima.
Cyrene, three years DID, II lbs Madlle de Chantiy,
three years DID, 81 lbs Bird in the Hand, three years
old "a bs and Trcoor, three years old, 70 lbs, al.
though not placed were, respectively, fourth fEh,
.ixtb and seventh al much scattered and far behind
the leading trio. The Americans Poress, four years
old 81 bs and Babylon three years old, 81 lbs, were
nowhere in the rsce-never showed in font aud mad
FEVER the ninety ninth part of chance; they were,
therefore, judciousy pulled back into canter, AID
came in at the tail Of the hesp-Bsbyon actually, and
of course accidentally, last
Some journals, not understanding the system, have
made wonderment and laid stress the fast of bis
being last aud Proress amorg the lssts il that fsc
proved that he was the worst, and she among the
worst owing to the circumstance of their being 90
placed II proves simply nothing. The losing horses
of race in which thity-two start do not run, whip
ard spur to viii ,h is the worst but so soon a,
their jockeys perceive that they cannot by any posi-
biity win or to winning as to be PLACED,
are pulled up matters net how lar from nome, aimee
there i, no distance in where there are no heas
Cor Sc queIty it makes difference 10 the running of
the Americans, or in the estimate of lheir deserts,
whether they came in sixth, tenth, thietn ac.usy
last All that we have to sder is this, that they
ever showed in front at ell, never had chsnce OF
winning We shall only add, that FL Haku and Q ieen
Bees who ran dead hea. with Pnoress, snd taen in
econd heat were both beaten by her By length sad
bali Ell Hakim coming 10 second by head, ran in
this race re respectively carug 81 log. and 80 lbs Both
az well as Piioress CARED extra wei sht each Of the
former lbs a, secord and the latter lbs as wi lner
Of the Cesaewitch. TIE distance of the Cesa-swtca
was q miles and "a yards; the distance OF the im-
bidgeshre stakes is mile and 24O yards or fac
ton under mile and ore seventh OF mile.
The running of the two races is Curious snd throws
good deal Of light Oh the subject Of weighing, aud
shows how sbsurdy and gnorauty those writer's spoke
who insisted time after time, 10 spte of 81 argument
that weight of Ia lbs in two mule and half racs
| made little or no difference; ard that the idea that
bs extra on one Of two equal no ses, made the diff
ference of distance or $40 yards IN race of fur
miles 40 yards in two miles, 90 yards In one mile
TIE running Of these two races the Cesare witch and
Cambrdgesbire, wi reary the same weights, except
some slight variations bat at a very different lengtao
| race be ween very nearly the same anlma!s, show
exactly what difference weight doss make, aud wha
com paratre difference il makes in long and short RACES
We gave, q few days after receiving the news o
its occurrence careful consi6e ion of the cfoun
stances of the Cessrewtch, and description OF II
nature of that race and Of the in which it wa
| rup, TO which we refer our readers The es4n.t
which we drew of the running of Priores' VINO in t1a
race Of two miles and quarter and twenty1ur yad
heat Saunterer WaIlOek, Fisherman, snd several oth
ers of the best horsss in England nesry out OF ssot
carving LEES weight than them, respectively, by Il
lbs and year--equa TO 81 lbs. 81 lbs and 80 lo'.,
in which victory she was equaed 10 tne first heat oy
FL Hskm carving the same weigh. with herself, ol.
being year younger which is equal 20 his giving her
tie aovsn,sge Of 10 lbs, ard by Queen Bees. carrying
OILY Go lbs, SO b. lees han Fisherman, 81 los less
than WaIock, AZ lbs less than Sauutere', aud - ne.
ar year less than the American racer, vas slmpy
that she had shown herself good honest, sscond'ae
mare, sna nothing more-sbout equal 10 FL Hakim a.
his sge, and not to be spoken Of 10 the same dsy
with an of the really rstrate horses which slut
ou o. the race by the great weight which they carried
at TIA. long ds:snce-rels'ivey speaking, as oJm.
| plotely 81 il they bad not started for i. a; ALL
| The Cap.bridecsbire, ike the C-ss,e Fitct, il 5
bsrd icsp Iace-,bs. 10 TO say, race IN which 81 rae
animals cary weights, on scale e'sdu4ted 50 a. 20
Il L.. 10 Of m ass.r