Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1857-12-18

nowi Ignore Iccompton, ignore Topcka; treat both
those party movements as irregular and void piss aii
bi--lo ono We framed oursci,cs WHEN we were acting
as unit-havo fair election, and You will have peace
In the Democratic Party and peace throughout the
county, in ninety days. The people want fair vote
They will be- satisfied without H. They should
be satisfied without fair vote on the Constitution.
n the Toombs bill does not suit my friends, take the
Minnesota bill Of the last scssou-tho one SO much
ncndcd by the President In his Message, as model
Let us pass that as an enabling act aud allow the people
Of an parties to come together and have fair vote and
will 10 IT, Frame any other bill that secures fair,
honest vote 10 men Of all parties and carrcs the
pledge that the people shall be len free to decide ON their
domestic institutions for themselves and will go with
You with pleasure and with all the energy may possess
But this Constitution Is 20 be forced down throa
in violation of The fundamental principle Of nee govern
mcnt, under mode of submission that Is mockcry and
insult painful AS it will hc TO NO. must break all
Citations or connections iher h1n forfeit my principles.
have no fclr of any ry asso, aii1us being severed.
IN II must tif cannot act with Won and preserve my
filth and nay honor will stand on the great principle
Of popular sovereignty which declares the right Of all
pcoplc 10 be len pcrfty free to form and regulate their
dorirstic Institutions In their own way. will follow
that principle wherever ts legal and logical consequence
may take me- and will endcayur defend against
saut from any and all Quarters. No mortal man shall
be responsible for my action but myself Dy my action
will ccmpromii no man 49,
- Mr. Bitlcr of Pa replied 10 Mr. Douglas, saying that
The convention was called according to law andhad been
recognized by the President and the Governor Of the Ter
rtory II was their right to submit the constitution to
the people, send it to Congress without such submis
SION III II was right I'm itself republican In form and
the people had fairly decided the slavery question: it
would not be his wish 20 keep them out Of the Union
pplv because the whole constitution had not been sub
mitied To them To do so would DC inconsistent with the
doctrine Of uonutcrvention There was nothing in the
past history Of the country that would Justify such
course IL would be the duty Of Congress 10 look at
the question rs came before them aud DO the best
they could looking At the happiness n the cnrc coun-
try He had long been under the impression that it
would De best Tor the Union and Kansas that the State
should be admitted At the first allowable opportunity, in
order to ooalze the strife lie would have preferred that
the whole constitution had been submitted 20 the people,
but persons outside Of the Territory have no right i'm
terf6re Win Tho slavery nueston there
lie believed that the people Of Kansas now have an
opp,rtiuity In decide whether TO have free or slave
state. liz could not. however determine his entire
course until thcy shall make such decision lie said the
position Of Mr. Douglas to-day was in utter deroquon Of
That which he occipicd whom ne voted for Mr. Toonbs'
bill which proposed to make state constitution and put
10 into oper l0n without submitting il 90 the vote uf the
people and that only short time ago lie could not
understand how Mr. Douglas had readily become sem
.itivo riding the rights Of thc pcopc ater having
attempted such an infringement upon them.
Mr. Musnn-Mr President I do not mean to 20 into
this debate because it Is now entirely upon questions
purely abstract but think due 20 the honorable Scua-
Tor nom illinois, To whose remarks have listened with
great attention 10 uoint ont 10 him one nj least OF the
fallacic contained In his argument that term with
entire rrsuoct and should be unjust To myself If did
not use il with entire respect 10 him. because an will adj
nit that his spcech was one N great strength and great
mower but In INV eonccption with Great diHdence
sav il was of lille ,nomont-u its leuni posons and
in It's nolitical conclusions series of monstrous ,la
cies only desire 10 point out one now The honorah
Senator said that the effect produced OF necessity from
the mode Of submitting this subject the people of Kan
sas was TO dsanchsc an who did not come to the poll.
prcp,rcd 10 vote for the Convention and thus he said
all who did vote whether for or against slavery, wcr,
compelled to vote for the constitution and those n either
class who prepared 20 for the constitution
must necessarily refrain from voting at all and set tho
honorable Senator complaincd-and it the great
staple of that part Of his atgument-that the cousutu
ton was not Submitted 10 De voted At time hC
dccarcl that t withheld from The people and asair
De declared that 40 who 10 vote necessarily
obliged 10 vote for It. Now, submit % the honorable
Senator, how could man hc compelled 90 vote f1r that
which submitted 90 him 90 Doe voted ON at al
Mr.. Dougas-Did the scuator understand me 90 say 4
was withheld
/ Mr.. Nason-S1 Understood.
Mr.. Douglas--l said just the reverse.
Mr.. Masou-Ihc Senator certainly said they withheld
everything from thc people except the question of slave
r and vet the Senator declared that whoever voted or
the question of slavery, whether for against It, was
obliged TO vote for the constitution; and The Senator
drew the logical consequence that. Of necessity thos,
who did choose 30 vote FOR the constitution wcr
obliged 90 stay away, and refuse TO vote ata That
his Argument Vow, the allacy meant TO point out
this look that constitution and you will find that M
Convention withheld the consiimtioni it was not submit
ted 90 the people at all Whether that well done
i'll done is another question; but the constitution wa
withheld from the people, and the only question submit
ted to thcm whether they would establish or nterd
slavery They might there and vote upon that,
not vote or express any opinion whatever anything
else contained IN the constitution
Mr.. DOuglas-l am sorry | was misapprehcndcd hl
the senator from Virginia. certainly took the ground
first, that the Convention had no power TO frame gov
eminent and put it in operation without Submitting
the people. secondly that the Convention showed con
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