New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-12-10
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| M. MASON offered rss oiei.oa which v,,s.,,
ard passed. inviting the clergy men Of th4 ~. - :.
cuntis to efoiste gratutously a. ch.,s sss !, A.
| Strate.
Mr. GWIH gave notice of b. ir'eriion 10 i,,,,s..
bills fer the contraction Of Northern, Soas,s-, -
CeLiral Pscihc Railroad; s.ss Of bll % osg..i.. -
Territory OF AriEOIa.
} Mr.. DOUGLAS ssid that yesterday be x,, -
TIE impression that the Pie.ie ert ssd approves 49,.
sction Of the IL compton Conver.icu sad Will 49,
hat impression he felt his duty 70 state tbs, ~
| be ccrcrrrtd in tie genersl view Of the nn.,..
vet 20 f.- il did approve or rSore the areo. y,
ita' Convs n,ion. be entirely dise-nt4 fro. n -
would svs bnssf Of ar cry c7pcrsuriy n 80
biz ressons for such dissent Upon more cvef,ls,S
cghcs eIsmir alton Of the message, he Va, rsisssS
10 frd that the President had az en~sa
approved Of TIE action Of TIA, CssvesuoSs
He was also reoiced 10 pd that the Prs1srs hsd nj
recommended that Congress should pxs l.vs receiv.
irg Karsss ITO the Cnicn IS State uEscr IA Con,
stitut,op fsmed at Leoompon. True the ace az sSs
Mssge n6icstes the willingness of Pre-.d.,,t !,
sign sry bill Congress might psss 10 reoeivs Knss
"a Safe under that Constitution; but it wssa NV
s;epifcsnt fact that the President had refraasa 6u
any Endorsement Of the Convention, or any recon-
uendssion a. to the couTse which Congress sa,uxa
pur,ue IN regard to the admission Of Kansss Ipdsed
The President had expressed deep mordt,H
ten ard disappointment that the whole Coo
s,itu,ion was not submitted to the Psopsp
Of Kapsss for their acceptance or resckse.
He proceeded 10 show ths. sngfess could not pioss
" receive Kansas into the Union under the Lsoap-
ton Constitution. No, only the 5 avery Question, bat
all ot ers must be submitted TO the people OF ksasAs
as we lave guarantee 10 then the rgn, 10 establish
81. their domestic Institutions for Themselves Ga this
nr;pcjple the whole Constitution must be eubmusd
10 ascertain whether it meets with their approo
Mr. DOUGLAS conte nded that the people OF Kn-
sss ought to have opportunity to vote agsin. the
Coustitution il they chose 10 do 80. He compared
,ter cs.e 10 the FIRE edom Of election in Paris when
Louis Napoleon chosen. The reason assigned
vhy the peope should not be allowed TO vote % in
acceptance was, thst, fthey had tnee they YOU'D
vote il down By al overwhelming majority He be.
lieyed that they would, and thought thsth ~sss dsx
vicsiion Of the gsnc act to force an obnoxou Coo
siitution upon them. f.r
When Mr.. Douglas concluded there was applause
Mr. MASON moved tina. they be cleared rem,rties
that the decorum Of the Senate had been fequsatJ
violated 10 this way.
Nr. UAMLlN hoped rot.
M. CLAY thought that the applause commenced o.
the floor .r that ii would be bard TO punish spscta
tors for following that example.
Mr. BIGLER hoped that the motion would be with
dlswr.
Mr. MASON acquiesced, bat hoped thst the nsK
time the ofense wss repeated it would not be allowed
to pass with impurity
Mr.. BIGLER Pa replied to Mr.. Douglas. He
said that the Convention was called &C ,ordng to law,
ard had been recognized by the President and Cover
ror OF the Territory. II was their right TO submit
the Constitution 10 The people send il TO Congress
without such tubmh sion. If 1t was night 10 iAeat,
republican in foro and the people had fairy decided
the Slavery question, II would not De wise 70 keep
them out Of the Union simply because the whole Con-
sttution had not been submitted to them. To DO 20
would be inconsistent with the doctrine OF honotsf
vention. There was nothing IN the past h,ss3ry o.
the country to justify such course. IL would be tho
duty of Congress to look at the question as cana
before Ii EN- and do the best they could regarding tie
hsppines Of the whole country. He had long 6esa
under the in preston that it would be best for the
Union ard Kansss that that should be admitted s
the fret allowable opportunity, IN order to b
caize the strife. He would have preferred
that the whole Constitution had been submitted TO the
people but persons outside OF the Territory have
10 interfere with the Slavery question there. He BE-
tved that tie people Of Kansas DOW have an oppof
tunty to decide whether to have Free Save State.
He could not, however determine his entire course
until they ehsl make such decision. He said that tho
position # Mr.. Douglas to-day was in utter derosston
| of that which be occupied when be voted !ot MI.
Tocmbss bill, which proposed 10 make State Constr
tuition and put into operation without submitting II
TO tie vote Of the people, ory shoIt time ago. lie
could net understand how Mr. Douglas had so resav
become sensitive regarding mo nights OF thas peSYses
after having attempted such an Infringement upon
| hem.
| Mr.. MASON exposed ard replied to what be char
acter,zed as falscy 10 the remarks OF MIR. Douglas,
| and who explained and said he had been mineprs'
eLted.
Mr.. BIGLER remarked that, in a Conversation
| with Col Henderson, who was an active member OF
the Convention, be understood him to say thss nefs
were two Constitutions virtually. -
Mr.. DOUGLAS-H there are two should IKE"
gee the other.
Mr. BIGLER-I say precisely similar.
Mr.. DOUGLAS-Hpre precisely alike, what difference
does il Dske if you may vote for ore or the other
Mr. BlGLER-One for Free and the other fI
Slave State. That is the difference.
MI. DOUGLAS-It makes no difference how many
copies they make. The simple point is that they only
allow the people to voc on Slavery-nothing else Inc
Senator from Pennsylvania had assumed an air ehcs
thought unDece sssry, and rather intims.ed to me
that be spoke by authority.
Mr. BlGLER-I expressed my own views, dehos-
Of the President.
Mr.. DOUGLASS may have misunderstood him.
am certain thst be did not speak for the Pred
dent. know that, for the President has just spoken
for himself in his Message, in which he condemns
the Convention for not submitting the Constitution
TO the people, and refuses 10 recommend US 10 receive
it. The President is q bold, frank man, and II be
intended TO give us an Administration measure lhe
would have said TO- Il not respectful to assume tbst
he will do what be will not recommend Us to do. OF
course know the Ser ator from Pennsylvania did moe
spesk by su'b0,ity.
Mr. BlGLER-I thirk that J an SAFE in ,syiog, and
thin that the Senstor from Illinois will agree, thai
the Preside uphods in his message the doctrine tnas
the Cor yention had right to form Constitution aud
submit 1t to the people for approval, or send up !"
Congress for approval. think that II Is deducio,s
from the message that the President DOES not nosd
that bt cause the ert re Constitution was ROT submit
ted to the people Kansas should be kept out Oh inc
Union.
Mr.. DOUGLAS-l INFER nom the message Inet tno
President dees hold that the Convention hsd hghtto
form Constitution and send it hero. But that wss
only hight to petition for redress Of grievances under
the Federal Constitution, ard not bscause tue Lsgn
lsture had power to constitute that legal Con-
vehtiOp.
Mr.. BIGLER-Where did you get that
Mr.. DOUGLAS replied--A gentleman (mesnos
Mr.. Trun buD yesterday read from speech inside ey
Legislature had 70 right TO create Convention to su-
percece the Territorial Government and that to a.
Tempt il would be gross usurpaton. The Democrats
psfy has held that doctrine siDce and asserted
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