New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-07-20

ward Second street. standing still at thai time.
q. Did the police stand still when they fred. A.
'S 2: We're the police standing still. do you say, whsn
they fredf A. Some Of them were, and some we're
in motion; they formed in line cross the street and
ran over " the butchers shop two by two, pretty
solid and some of hem as they got in The lnidde Of
the road wheeled around aud fired, facing down
Avenue A.
The Coroner said he could make nothing of this
witnesses confused state nents, but Juror Whaen was
Of opinion that was clear sa'ement and very in
o. How mary fired A. It is hard for me to say,
hut I certainly raw three four fire; they were
facir down Avenue when they fred, the people
f,iug before them.
% Were they firing at the people flying before
them A. Well, thoughtso.
@ How many shots did you hear fired A. heard
from - to 90 l think in the whole.
o. Where were the police relative To your pOsti
when they fired A. stood abou. seven feet from
the corner. ia Avenue a. just below Third street,
toward Second ct and The police across the street
were in line with me when they began to fire; the
noce fired down Avenue A.
o. Where j d the man stand that was shot, a.
Ten or fifteen feet from me down Avenue A, on the
Juror Whaen-Did understand that the police all
fred down The middle of the street A. think some
of then came pretty close to me- retreated into the
entry.
6r.da A. did: understand me-they we're oil run
ning toward the northeast corner, and some Of hem
a. they ran two by two turned around ana fired down
Avenue A, when they were near the middle OF the
street, they did not all fre-perhaps dozen OF them
q How many turned and fred A. Some dozen
stood sill till the ret fired, aud then all went down
Ay,Lue A; / think not more than four or i've tred
Ayenue 4 is ordinarily very much thronged; II was
thsn more throDg.d than usual toe officers hrst ran
,coss the street a. they wanted catch some body
at the butchers sbop the first intmation had OF the
police was the crowd coming down the middle ot IN:
road and immediately | saw the police cross lhird
street TO the corner where | stood, and make rush
across IN ,blque angle to the northeast corner, to
the butchers shop, ard as soon as some OF them got
into the middle of the.road they wheeled around an
fred into the mob the that was shot went WITH
the crowd on the sidewalk; when l went down Ave
nue. A and stood by the man that was shot saw the
police coming up, and they fired again, but this time
/ saw n pistol go off over their heads. they walked
down Avenue after the flrst tne they nredi knew
one Of the policemen who was there as Wing; he Is
with me- and | will not tell his name unless an
forced to. m
Coroner-We don't recognize politics here.
Juror-Wili you tell his name a. l ain not COM
PEELED to tell.
Juror-Is be here I The Coroner desired all the
Police officers in court to stand upl a. He is not
here.
Coroner-I have decided that question before on
yesterday. If the witness wishes to tell the name
suppose none of the Police will object. A. No, WIZ
officer knew among them.
Corouer-IIow soon did you arrive! A. suppose
! arrived in five minutes after the man was shot.
Coroner-Wbere was hei a. He lay partly to-
ward Nc. % Avenue A.
(oroher-Were any Police about at the time ~
| die not recognize any about him, but the Police had
not returned; did not remain more than some mi'-
utes they sponging him, aud trying 10 stop tue
bleeding, and presently saw our or hVe men iuaich
with him TO the Doctors
COroner-COuld You recognize the man a.
could not get fair look at him, there We're so many
about cannot cay any more positive than they saia
he was shOt.
Juror-Was the man you saw after the same as
the man you saw before y. Yes. ,
JuroI-Did you any one throwing stones at the
Police A. saw person throw stones; the crowd
was very peaceablc.
JurorEWhen YOU heard I" man shot," did you turn
round and look ct hint A. texctedly) did.
Jurol-Ycu stated the man shot was large man
In shirt sleeves.
Ccroner-He has not said as yet he saw any man
Officer Wilnrn j. Fountain of the Seventeenth
Wand Police the next woess examined He was
duly sworn and deposed follows: Reside ut No. LOO
Ess.x street; an, police officer Of the Seventeenth
District; | duty on Sunday about 1 or II
O'Clock; heard firing from the corner OF Avenue
and Fourth street southeast corner there were haf
a dozen shots, one muske shot from the top OF the
house; saw STONES thrown, and heard them strike
the sidewalks around ME and middle OF the street;
cid Lot see officers fire. | did not hear hrlng come
from officers did not hear Capt. Hartt tell the men
not TO fire; us stood fronting the corner-house,
head shots behind me which appeared to come from
The northwest corner; when came down from tue
station. House with Sergeant Lockwood, We charged
into the crowd and got far the corner OF Avenue
and Fourth street when We became surrounded by
a dense crowd firing and throwing stones, which got
TO be so hot we obliged to retreat up f0urth
street; after Capt. HART came on the ground, and
We were proceeding down Avenue A, heard a num-
Der of boys young who appeared to be Leaning
the crowd exclaim Lets at them, Forty's," which
Ill, %. EnnvV
Tbiever" 60 called. Witness went on to give rela-
ton Of fleets timar to those made already by other
Witnesses.
Juror-Did you carry pistol A. No, don't car
~ one. ~.
Juror-Did not the officers carry pistols A. Can't
say if any officer carried one haven't been In office
before, and don't know as to their carrying pistols
Q. Did you recognize any Of the old police there
A. No; did not know the man was shot until Hie
bexf day.
G. Were you not member ofthe old Municipal Po-
lice A. No, was not.
Nelson Mott, policeman, testified that he saw the
man lying at No 90 Avenue A, on Sunday evening, on
the sidewalk or PLATFORM: there were other oticers
with him and crowd around saw no one strike the
man or any else in that crowd passed along In
n.diately; think saw woman with him; re.
ceived ball in the heel of my boot at the corner OF
Avenue and Fourth street. go ~
The Coroner-It has been said that while Muller
was lying there policeman struck n% do 0m 'e sheud
be known, and will be obliged TO Captain HART or
ally other person who will furnish me with evidence
On that point. ,,.-.u..
Witness continued-That neighborhOod is generally
quiet but there was often bad crowd about that par
ticular corner; / saw none of the old police; had
pistol but did not use it; others OF the police had
their pistols out. =,
Chauncy Edwards, residing in Bushwick sworn-h
policeman Of the Seventeenth Ward.
Q. Did you see the man, Muller, lying In Avenue
on Sunday last A. saw man lying there:
O. How lorg was you therei A. About twenty
minutes.