The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-02-26

be $500 that the officer would make $500 by travel
ling California This ought be looked in ascer
tanning the amount officer receives But have exclud
ed that from my estimate have, therefore, made this
calculation based said before the pay proper the
ratons, commutation for servants, and the forage.
The adutan general received for last year Sa293 So
of the inspectors general 20 the other 740 So
each OF the assistant quarermasers general S2887 20 the
commisary general of subsistence S296O 4O the surgeon
general Ssl4 40; the paymaster general $sos5 60 the
colonel OF engineers $2672 All the colonel Of topographi
cal engineers $2sS7 s0 the colonel Of ordnance the
the colonel of the first regiment OF dragoons S293l 30
Of the second Dragons $3l96 s0 OF mounted rifles,
$497O so of first artillery S26s3 2o vf second artillery
S399s 40 of third artillery S2779 s0 of fourth artillery
$4,000 30 of first infantry $26ss 2O of third infantry,
S2765; OF fourth infantry, S2s34 co of fifth infantry,
S2794; of sixth infantry, S3944 of seventh infantry
S29ls ofeghth infantry 99S OF ninth infantry $27s2
Of tenth infantry, S2,s20 80.
Now, mark you, this ID the pay, raons, communication
for servants and forage according to the present value
have table which will show the increase these officers will
receive under this bill The increased pay and emoumens
of general under this bill will be $3.50 per
Mr. CASS. May ask the senator what he is reading
from2
Mr. WELLER. am reading from calculations have
made from the documents laid tables.
Mr.. CASS. As to the pay and emolumens of officers
generally 2
communication made by the War Department the House
OF Representatives he will find the Information that have
collected together.
have to keep horses HH a4| l.
Mr. WELLER. The senator must know, as well as do,
that there singular things connected with forage
Some how other officer always has his horses the
time he draws his forage but they oentmes do not be-
long TO him long afterwards. state, perhaps il
lustraon myself When was in the Mexican war, had
very good horse that cost me 5000 was allowed
mutation for three horses and required to have three
horses turned in and bought couple of Mexican
pose enabling to comply with the law and draw the
forage. Laughter. think that is fairer than
many you can find now, if you to inquire into the
facts rHa. at#.s ~ a-s s.aY.
Mr. CASS. will simply remark to the honorable sena-
tor that was nquring to the meaning of the law and
not the administration of it. If the law requires officer
to keep three horses gives him the forage for them the
provision Of law may be good, but the administration may
be bad, like other laws. wish therefore, to inquire
ment to the offcer--his quarters, for instance2
MIR. WELLER. exclude the fuel and quarters and the
transportation of baggage
Mr.. CASS That is right slta tatHs.
Mr.. WELLER. This table only embraces the pay prop
err the raons and the communication for forage The state
ment from which read shows the paid last year
from the treasury to officers in consequence of these
particular items The increased pay and Increased value
of the ration proposed by this BILL have said before
will give major general $3.50 than he receives
his aiddecamp 1884 increase, and his second aid 276
bgader general will receive $632 increased pay; his aid
$a40 the aduant generals pay viii be increased $456
the assistant aduants general of the rank of colonel 1920
of the rank of major 1884 of the captain $3ei
the judge advocate 1894 the inspector general $468 The
increased pay Of lieutenants will be some $500
Mr.. WELLER. Between $500 and $780, That is proper
and right, and nobody objects to It, We paying
sengers Of the Senate believe, $4,000 year and
tainly our second euenants ought to rank with
senger of the Senate This bill will increase the pay Of
the second lieutenans TO 400 and will increase the
pay Of the FIRST eutenans about $4,000 have VA
rious calculations showing what will be the amount the
various officers will receive or have received but do
choose to read them to the Senate. #E
The only point presented TO the Senate here is whether
the Senate prepared to abolish the double ration We
are increasing the value of the ration fifty per cent
are increasing the pay proper of all the officers $24o
and is the Senate prepared to abolish the double ration
have given TO the Senate all the information have
the abuse growing out of it. II they prepared for
REFORM they will take the bill came from the House of
Representatives. am sure would do nothing prevent
increase of pay to the officers for certainly they
ought to receive We know in the last few years
there have been large number of designations in the army
account of the small salary and emoumens In 1852
there three designations in l853 eleven; in 1854
thrtysx in 1855 much larger number 1t is very
tain that unless increase the pay of the officers Of the
army many of the best in the public service will
be from necessity compelled to retire have offered this
amendment thinking It necessary If the Senate think
otherwise shall be perfectly satisfied TO take the bill it
came from the House of Representatives. hla sa e.
Mr.. HUNTER am willing to vote for bill increasing
the pay Of the officers of the think such bill
is proper perhaps necessary but unwilling TO vote
for the increase of pay in the shape in which it is
proposed One of the objections to the mode in which the
officers of the army paid that consists of many
different allowances that it is impossible 70 tell beforehand
what any officer receives You cannot See what be gets
unless you go to the army regaer for the purpose Of
mens and not only that but 1t allows large discretion
in the head of the department in the distribution of the
money which is assigned for payment amongst them For
instance it is entirely discretionary what shall be given to
them for fuel and quarters know that you cannot fix any
given necessary which should be given for fuel
and quarters but believe ought to provide
for restricting this discretion We ought enable the coun
to know what's the beyond which the officers
receive; in other words ought to fix maximum in the
bill which increases the pay willing to fix liberal
maximum, II the Senate will amend the bill in such
as to declare that shall receive by
of this BILL for pay and other allowance with the
ception of transportation, than certain sum- and
that is reasonable one shall be willing to vote for
it. If that be done, there will be necessity for the
amendment Of my friend from California II it is not
done shall vote for his amendment because there ought
to be, think limitation Then leave it in the dis
cron of the Secretary War to do he has done hereto
fore allow double raons at posts and give communication
for fuel and quarters he may think just and proper bat
with provision that this shall carry the pay and
emoluments of officer beyond certain sum. IL you
take up Executive Document No a. Of the House of Rep
resenatves you will find that there great disparity in the
payment of different officers you will find colonies
ceving different sums and captains and officers Of all
grades receiving different 1t is owing to these al
lowances for ratons for Communication of forage for fuel
and quarters &c
IL we had time to egsate this subject de moro,
would like to put the officers of the army the same foot
ing with those Of the navy would give them each sum
certain with ration which they might take In kind
they often find it expedent to do believe that would
be better but inasmuch have not time to do this
aud the proposition is increase the pay by means OF the
allowances heretofore given think that in order to sats-
the country and that they may not go to too great
extent ought TO impose this bill maximum be-
yond which man shall receive.
Now sir, am willing to agree TO this bill with pro-
vso that major general shall not receive under it.