New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-11-18
KANSAS.
DEBATE ON THE SCHEDULE.

A. w. Jones Of Douglas took the floor. He
denied that he stood as the champion OF Southern
party, but of the people. Every impulse Of his
heeom beat to Southern rights; but he stood as the
shsnp of the Kansas Nebraska BILL He was
not induced or bulIied BY any one. He would oon.
Sess that be wss impeled by policy, but that policy
was fxsd on principle This was an slLimportsnt
moment. This Convention is to determine WI ether
the Constitution and the Union shall prevail, or the
ely party that can preserve the Cons.itution lie
referred 10 Mr. Boiling, and sa;d that that gentle
man sid if the Constitution was submitted, the
people would scatter it like leaves of-Of-l hing
-ValIombrosa).- Yes LIT me tell that gentleman
that in any case the people cannot scatter thst
Constitution. IL is only the separate Pro-Sla'ery
article OF n0t, that they are 10 vote on IN any
ease, ice uiU ret the Constitution Ar. Jones refers
TO the election Of delegates. He says at that time
that the delegates Of this Convention were eLcted
bg one.tenM Of the rOters Of the Territory. Was
not that reason why this Constitution should be
submitted TO the people If this Constitution should
10 up to Congress under the peculiar circumstances
or this case would Il not be said that the
people had no hand in it 4! Here the speaker
spoke about the appeal fr the Union-that TIE
Union would be disso led unless the Northern DeD0c-
sscy vote 10 receive Kansas without such subms-
The Northern Democracy. He gave an eloquent
harangue the Union, aud the language OF the
celebrated Henry Clay-"Never, never, never" lie
said that he Union man, but he was opposed
10 eoercing the people of one section OF the Union
with a threat of dissolviDg the Union. IL was
false mode Of legislation. He would never submit
TO it, and he asks one else to do it. This sub
mission was necessary to carry out the principles OF
the Kansas Nebraska bill If they were TO ignore
that what was to become Of Southern rights That
was the true buwark Of Southern rghts If they
were to destroy that principle il would be to estao-
hsh the power Of the Black Republicans. He ap-
pesled to them 10 the country and Southern
rights from the Black Republicans.
John Randolph Of AtchsOn-I say save it from
the Black Republicans too. He thought there were
two qualifications for great msn; the first was i'm
pudence and the second ignorance. He wanted to
show what he said; he may not remember ALL he said,
but there is thing he wrote. He reads from his
circular He had been in favor of submitting all Of
the Consultation or He was in favor of sub
hitting il 10 vote Of the true bona dc residents of
Kansas or not at all. He aludes to the statement
Of Mr.. Jones, that this Convention elected by u
small minority Of the people. If the gentleman who
said 90 thought so. WHAT IN HEAVEN WAS HE
DOING IN THIS CONVENTION If he Raodolph
thought that majority Of the people had not
elected him, be would 90 home. He would
not presume to legslate for people who
would not elect him. The gentleman speaks of the
Inconsistency Of Lsome of the speakers There are
those not in favor of submission month ago who are
in favor of il now. He thought he was at the bottom
of the class, and could hardly spell submission. He
thought he could never spell Submission. If there
was ore thing he despsed, it was the Fourth-Of-
July style of orators. He sarcastcally alluded to
Mr. Jones and the Union, an the Tree of Liberty.
Why, the bark had all been scraPed of it. So
many aspiring men were climbing up that tree, and
they turned 80 many summersets, that they had
l. IL III L. IT IL A(<h on
for the Democracy he had refused TO vote for his
best friend, Gen. Taylor. For the Democracy he
had forsaken the gallant Scott whom he had fol-
lowed to Mexico, and voted for Frank Pierce, who
was a coward and tainted. If the Democracy could
not maintain the cause Of the South why, let it go
in pieces What did the Democracy do in the
Presidential campaign in the North Got THREE
States. Now, what was this scheme What is
saidi Why, here we have two Constitutions, one
for Slavery, and one without. Well that's a good
one Laughter Yes, you may laugh it's just
humbug The fact is, it's Slave-State COnstitu-
zion, ard a Slave-State Constitution. That's it
you may laugh. I'll tell you, the world will soon be
of it is going on the lightning to THE
EEw-YORK TRIBUNE, and if it isn't, 1t ought
80 be (Laughter]. This is grand hnmbug. It's
not fair. 1t is supposed by some OF the gentlemen
here that they are awful smart, or that the Abo-
ftiOnists are awful fools. We expect them to vote
SOr Slave State in this way. They arc not such
fools q, you suppose. But let US suppose that they
are such fools. Is it right that we should swlnde
them in this way 1t isn't fair. won't do it. II
we are to submit it at ALL submit it fair; let them
have Free-State Constitution if they vote to beat
u.s. or do not submit it at all. tell you this icheme
Of swindling submission will be the blacklist page in
your history and we will never hear the end of it.
We won't make much capital out of this dodge, l
tell you. These Black Republicans will get to the
bottom of it so quick that you will never cease to
hear from this dodge. We expect to gain even the
slavery clause, because we vote by ballot. WE'LL If
that's it, why not come out square and submit all of
It'll I'm opposed TO submission. l tell you these Re-
pubicAns viii vote down both of them. He will be
willing to submit it TO the vote of Oxford aud Nc
Gee COunty be would be willing to submit it, for
there is fine lot of people there. He de-
MES that there are many people in Doug
HAS County. There are great many dis
union ragamuffins, but very few people. He
holds them in the same light he does free negro.
True, they are of nearly the same color; he RAN
eolph) can tell one of them whenever he sees him,
but he is afraid that others have not the pow
ers Of observation, and that the judges OF election
might not be able to discern them aud keep them
from voting. These men should never be allowed to
vote at any election. 1t would never do to let these
men vote. What do We propose to do We pro.
pose to appoint great President to take charge of
these returns, and We expect to bring in votes
enough TO carry the election. Well, We may and
again, We may not 1t may all look very pretty now
but not 30 pretty after it is all over What is the
nee Of all this submissiOni If we intend to let the
Black Republicans have their own way let them
make Free State Constitution themselves. He did
not want 10 make a Free-State Constitution for
them. The only consistent, strag htforwsrd honest
way lie to make our Constitution and send it on 10
Congress. He believes Congress will ad nit US; and
If they will not let defeat lie at their door This
humbueging, lodging way he did not believe in. He
wanted tO he and ahove hoard Thoy
learn that they could neither deceive the country nor
the Black Republicans. He wanted 10 mike tho