New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-03-19
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,1c4nic Creee Of the state Of N-w.Ycrk. Committee
THr CHARTER or sEw.YORK
M VAN vALKENBU9G rspcred complete, 70
amend the Charter OF the City o: New Ycrk
Mr.. JOHN J. REILLY moved to substitute bill
for a Convention % 'n'end tse Charter
IL response 10 question by NJ. JONES
Mr. VAN VALkENBURGH briefly explained the
blu II vss Lot very uIlike the Charter o. So e1.
cept that II ia sonexhat moe stringent 1t reduces TIE
number Of Aldermen abOshes two o. the Depart.
ments allows most Of the present officers to continue
until the expiration Of their itrms 0! Office, DC.
Mr. JOHN j. REILLY said that he believed tne
people Of NevYOrk understood teir business better
ihsn others hence be bad left tie eYslon OF me chAr
ter with the people of NewYork.
Mr. FOOT bad carefally examined the Bill, and
highly approved OF ii. * would provide the hrs: req
Republican government ever enjoyed by that city. IL
places the responsibilities where they legtims'ey be
lorg and abundsntly protects the people. The Com
mitee is entitled 10 the thanks Of ths House aad the
public for the excellent bill they have reported. 1t
was good charter, and would secure geoa govern
ment
Nr KIVLEN was surprised -. ths Chairman o.
tie Committee NJ. Van NskentVrgh could have re
ported the pending bill after his proclaimed lctnns
he other night relative to Schuyler County 10 tns
case he wished to leave the poSer with the people Of
the locality. In this case lie seeks 10 take power from
the people. Any psrte trying TO steal power seldom
succeeos This proposition was to steal power, ana
w uIC fdl.
MIR. MAHEN favored the substitute, ard opposed
the original bill II was the offspDE Of polite, rene
gsdes ara psupeTs in New York. Htae people OF New"
York were allowed 70 make charter tor themselves
they would perfect charter mUcn more satisfactory
to themselves than this House could do. This proposed
charter has friends among the independent electors
Of Newiefk and there IL scafceya paper OF any party
in that city which approves of 1t.
Mr.. JONES would rot say thst many OF the pro-
visions of this charter not sound but when tue
question was presented TO him whether the people of
the locality to be effected should decide their own
domestic affair be could not hesitate. II was
democratic doctrine which he could not forego and
be should, therefore, vote for tie substitute.
Mr.. JOHN J. REILLY read an article from Tx
TRIBUsE Against the proposed legislation.
Mr.. VAN VALKENBURG felt bound to say that
but single citizen of New. York had objected 10 the
charter bill while very many Of them had favored tie
BILL and all lad objected to the bill fol the proposed
Convt nticn.
Mr.. WOOSTER had not been able to examine the
pending bills carefully and had looked TO their Discus:
zion in onmittee Of the Whole .or enlightenment.
But they had been sen. 10 Standing Committee TO be
reported compe'e This had cut of discussion; aad
o. be row loCkeolst tie matter be rather preferred the
minority than the nIJoIlty report, thouBn ne oBiAed
Mr.. COX regretted that the House "a, cow called
upou 10 take definite action on this subject. lie
doubted the wisdom Of The acuon proposed. IL was
opy right that tie people Of every locality should have
a voice in their o1n siiars The majority Dill enu'
out the people snd took from them power Which
copst,tutonay belonged TO them. He did not know
bow be SHOULD finally vote on the bn but he WISHED
them ,ent back TO tie Committee Of the Whole.
MIR WOODS opposed the majority report u was
Anti Democratic and unjust, ard involved nootihes
directly in the teeth Of oCse advocated oy Inc author
az The hin when the Schuy Ter County bi was uncer
consideration This bill was the Offspring OF detunct
political backs and office seek who desire 10 cap tue
treasury. 1t is true tue people Of NeH OK "!sh
charter but they desire to lave avoce ~ ~ 'otmaon
.rd when formed they wiling to submit 1t Tor the
al q NlaI La .laffI
Mr. POMEROY reminded the House that va
placed n possession OF this bl weeks sgo-aiter ia
Committee hsd devoted weeAs III heailug ulen 81 All
parties 10 reead 70 IT, Ii was otter ben deb-,ed N
I, House rent back 20 the Committee 10 report com
pete IT, therefore. any were 10 blame for the p!eeen
iostit Of the bill it the House aud not the Con
mttee But were any to bamel What is there pc
cullar about New-YOrk Scores OF charters have
been scteo upon by the Legislature without dissent.
MIR. JONES-NOt without the approval oil The local
delegations.
Mr. POMEROY-Some were aad some were not.
Bot that made no dlereccs 1t the cuty u svery
member TO at fer himself regardless Of the opinions
of Others upon these a. upon all other blls he hsa
done So he could continue &c do so. Others douo less
will DO the same, Snd act lneIigenty on th's oii,
for has been printed snd before the House for weeks
N,thipg had been done IN corcer. The New OK
Delee atCn with such Of their constituents a. pleased,
have been before The Comuit,ee. TIE Committee
bsyipg done their whole duty they have no further
responsibility Tha. IL now with the House.
erstr his views in egard 10 It's purpose and authos
MIR. VARNUM repealed the idea thai only those from
the City OF New York could litelgenty e8sis.e LOT
the City OF New York II ne ices were samiueo,
reeaId to Ibe municipal affairs CT any city. Bec.use
New York il large city different role shou1 not De
applied 10 il than is appiied 10 other etes Ice Truth
s that no more imp srisl tribunal could be selected by
ths House than the Committee On Cities snd Villages.
1hat Committee hsd acted mpaitialy and p,tientiy-
hearing e, cry who before it, ard wing every
Argument lis due weight. No Committee could have
acted mere entirely free from ali political bias, and 10
one could have exhibited a earnest desire 10 GO
light regardless OF all political consequences to any
party
Mr.. b. OWEN believed i, was universally conceded
that the Charter OF New-York should Oe amended.
Ttemooe Ia the point a. issue. Believing the proposed
mode the best be should sustain II.
Mr. VAN VALkENBURGH said that among
others COMMITTEE from the Common Council OF New
York had beer before the Committee and three fcurhs
of the prov of the pending bul were inserted at
their request Representative from eyery class oil ct
had been before the COMMITTEE ant they 10 ANIL
mously rec nnnenGed the adoption OF ChNt@ by the
Legislature while ret cne had esked for Convention
10 Charter. The Charter Of that city had often
been amended by tie Legislature. aud entirely new
Charters had beer Cfien enacted by It without dissent
by the people. This proposition was 10 new one. IL
involved 10 nes poics, ano The opposition 70 II Vas
LOT based upon the public sentiment OF tue city
Dir. hEN LIN lLsisted thai tits question should be
len 10 the people 81 NeS York To refuse 10 80 80
wcu'd be WGoIg. Ii wou,d be as il Congress should
assume 10 frame Constitution 10: tbs State. Sach
sssgu phcn wouc be spurnSe ana discarded oy the
ptcpe. twssI " patty quest.ou iot ne ind .rso0i
thai this very bill was oisspPrc,ed Of By four OF n
Committee OF five kepa6 lCsas ~ho kai been sent up
leIe to examine L. TWAS ba5 bill, containing osd
,riuCii'e.
Mr. j. J. OWEN had introduced the bill for Con
vent Il e. revive tie Chsie- OF the Cts Of New York
lut h wss Persuaded tta, Ia: tie tes, mo6e Of
renclig ne cesired end
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b,snitv expressed by The TINES ard TRIBr ~ = this
~. Those journals .hoAld have some co1.!iera;io
AID he LoIgc de hll would be set back TO lie Com
mite, q the Whole.