The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-06-05
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sth The propositions to amend made 90 fha Occasione
above mentioned ndeante Informal and uncertain,
and not !, conic,m unity with the ruiss in thai respect.
is aud 70 and June were and are irregular and iovahd
In vein did Mr. Naiher endoavor TO show that he had
eh TO protest against the arbitrary action Of the meeting
The majority We're determined 70 administer the gag Law,
and they did most enectaaly And In spite Of the plain
rules OF order 70 the contrary the minority DRIED
down Mr. Mahcr quoted frum the rules 70 show that
such action IS that contemplated could be legally taken.
But the Go cast and the majority deiorm,ued
arer repeated interruptions he Obliged to desst Tho
10 DO read by the meeting. Tho document Is very
lengthy and we can oniy end room for the following
specimen brick, giving the dsaoons gentle tap.
COMMITTEE GIVE DIAoovs A CHARACTER.
The committee to whom was referred the subject Of
amending the standing rules OF The Church OF the Puna
That they have lookod carefully those rules az they
have existed for many years. They nnd small number
81 these in need Of nneD5nests not Of great Importance,
but yet such rs convenient Ct business
seems TO require. Indeed the proposed amendrnenv do
io more than conform the rules 70 the practice Of tho
church
The only rue Of rea, Importance whether considered
on general principles with reference the present
fessies Of the church, n the from which Ike tenure
| Is Inferred in the deaconshp.
sach tenure mrica rule rather than representation
This Is not In happy accordance with the fundamental
constitution OF Congregaonasm According this all
the power OF the church resides IN the body Whoever
appointed 10 perform service by authority of tho
body and as t3 representative lis deles aed power
10 the exercise Of which he responsible 10 his consn
turrts.
1he evil OF life tenure, tenure which can 10 ter
mra'cd only by direct vote of dispscement-always
delicate and usually regarded hostile art-is tina. tho
deacon, OF church Often to feel themselves
'pc order having authority beyond the functions ~
their ece right IN lead the opinion ard tho seton OF
the church and expect Difference Of their
official position In the inrmutss Of our nature h ,sn
Another and cognne evil a. that deacons though they
may represent the sentiment and viii Of the church when
appointed may cease entirely 10 represent the sentiment
and wishes OF the pree.pt
The change cities of the membership of church
are rapid and deacons come 10 BE- In few Tho
rcpr,s cntatvcs ri generation. When large
portion Of prcseni have voice 10 their
election they likely to hook them official per-
and nc. representatives, o. the church living
| sympathy With its polsalops
ia Of importance 10 accustorn largo . number OF
members practicable discharge OF the duses be-
longing TO the deaconshp The proportion OF those atcd
for such duties win depend much the demand for thsm
and Tho demand win be increased BY The Necessity u
Your oommiice deem wise 70 render dcaoous inen-
eligible election will he expected; II award
ed the omixon will be regarded oensurc Tho
persons mnst be continued tor fear Of woondpg feehne
when change would be expcdient. Thee reasons
which induce your committee on general principles 10
\ advise a short term Of Office and inchgibilfy.
long and rambling discussion then eDsced on the
motion 10 adopt the report including the amendments
heretofore published IN the Herald, the Chairman ruling.
NJ that the report before tho horse without
having been formally accepted and making number Of
oher similar rulings as inconsistent with common sese ~
Mr.. HAvUSs said he would state hts objeciou 70 be
adoption OF The report Irst becanso It not properly
before them. was A., no, formally and legally osforo
originated legally The meeting nj which IL had been pro-
vided for not called regularly rsair.d by notice
through the clerk The meeting had been got up late
Saturday night and entirely late tn ann the clerk and
have meeting called properly Tho thrte~nth seson Of
the standing rules lsosdcd for alterations In the con-
session Of faith well ~ Of the standing rules and " this
hose legislation pursued the Confession could DO kke
we altered, perverted, and even obterntcd altogether.
body of Uniarans nigh, buy In their church Cheap
and revoutonize their whole Ancies d Ah ~ bad bean
Mr. Ravens hesitsed slightly In his rpeech which o.
caaloned semc .AicriDy among several yonng misses,
susn rssSss ~vSs b. sSr,yrs.. Tor scSos. chm
drep but he hardly thought was proper fR adoIAs.
The very laws winch governed them werc, ir this prin-
cpe was adopted 70 be governed BIZ tho heat Of passion
simply the purpe Of getting ND OF obnoxoas ofcess
They were truly the observed OF s obscrvcs and II this
TO be the eject OF congregaoasm the church would
he dss sored and men would ,arn back 10 tfe straight
laced theories Of rreseytsrnsm. They had bcsn taught
Mr. ARrpr called the gentleman 10 order, ON the ground
that he was not speaking The truth.
The CHAIRMAN hoped the gentleman w'uld keep 70 the
N. ILvrs said that they bad been taush, from In,
pulpit ut tine repeal Of the Missouri compromise
repeal Of fundamental INV, Tor parties purposes whiah
was altogether wrong.
Dr. CarxvsR denied thai he lad raid anything about tho
| Missouri compromise IN rny Of his o,scourscs
harpcd upou hts cars had deceived him Thee "a,
Ifotetitcn for them except In their fundamental law.
They bad no synod or Pesbyery to 30 b. nothing hut tho
rules OF their church for the protection of the minority
lie would deny most sirennously that he had been ndn
snccd In asking Dr Chesvcr IN resign By any dissatao-
| uOr CT his sermons ON slavery.
! Mr.. AEnOr called the gentleman 10 order
Mr. BAvSs continued TO reiteratc bis objections 70
| ctiying the report
| OFT EvTorrF-ss.
Mr.. wARRES wished 10 know what Ind become Of the
rtp'r Of the committee. BE understood bad been IA
| ken oct OF the house.
The stated tina, the reporters doubtless had no
| taken amy unfair means N obtain the report
Mr. wArfrS wehcd 10 know BY what st tho reporters
| were preFcDt
Mr. M,Tn called the gentleman TO order, speak.
1 INK 10 the qrssion before the house.
| Mr.. Wsyfs- called Tor The reading or the report.
Mr.. NhrnT raised point OF order that there xss q
\ question bcfsue tho nousc
sam H. Hun hough The reporters no rirht In Tho
room lie approved u tho acton Of various hus,aess
meetings. and ON The whole thought that haf
gained by The dizcuton and the side had Iot by A.
Mr. HAyrzs said tia. tbcro never had bscn q word OF
difficulty betvccn him and he He novo
hal the question before the House po~tp>ped and thai
the meeting should into the regular OF
the rsvbi Ion Of the ts Of membcss order that there
should be no
| ponpm nrysw ON rrrG rurr VOTE
He had desire tina, su~h these classes sou be Al
| losei 10 come into their church.
sKIT Hr~r rsis al point Of order that the speaker wa
| calling she mcnbers bard names.
1 Tho CHArNlS sustained tho point Of order.
Mr. HsssSs couicpdcd that he had spokeu nsrofy bv
way Of illustration, and concluded BY moving postpone
mcDt Of tho question.
Tho Question sns taken and decsd n 10 bc lost svi.
son vas called fer, rzulns In voc Of 81 10 IS agansi
| The postpopemeni.
4 Prur ffusI-nS moved In adjourn me week
1 This fnafy Withdrawn, and ~ The Ats bsuy ~
vh,sh rerortrr len, Mr. Msfhsr vanity
ing procure the admission OF his protest me meeting
badc lair 70 coniinne Until A. n.
The Eses~~ Corn suss-sousrs.
;s7 Rnnap~Ay, n. Y, June ., 1887.
W. Jy HlsEETr and l. D. uoikzs, Esqs, Commissioners