The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-02-10

20 me IN Argument unt tho ca&h had been admins
We Of me osOa shss me object OF hi. 1ssnsat In I'd.
% pro ooospy the public ind % - 70 prevent
ss s: 1s ana u" .o
M runbulL had been the councillors and advisers In
endeavoFhg prevent election Of Senators In Indiana
vhieh new existed In thai stass. IN spite Of their
Efforts however, there had been An election. Mr.. Fitch
aonsd Senators and Of the Sass q In
diana. When thh question shall have bean investigated
Ne and y The not %
election. He charged shss the course Of the
:ss 'ss'' ss o.s u Su. To:
parliamentary and unheard Of Tor he could refer 70 pre-
oedens after precedent 10 sustain the whioi he
proposed. M Bright concluded by Offering reso-
luton thas the President pro ts administer the oath
required BY law 70 Graham w. Fitch, ~ Senator from To-
Mr. BuT1xR, (dem ef 8. Q wished TO look into the
facts before expressing Judgment on this He cited
several cases In hion gent een had been In and
taken seats, whore the evidence. had been dts
cosed 70 the Senate, would have rendered very apps
rent that they were not entitled 70 those seats &c
ace evidence Of an election saying they may cali me IN
old foey they choose but viii adhere 70 the primitive
simplicity Of our fathers, whom Governors were the
personalities of commooweaiths and sovereiEntes.
Mr.. CAss (dem OF Mon, q the cenouson OF the
tence hastily and gave Mr. Butler firm grasp
Of hs hand, - endorsing the LISTERS reference to old
me Senate and densely crowded galleries wsre imms
diaely convulsed with laughter in which the two vene
Nr. BAlE (rep) Of g., said the credentials OF Mr.
Fitch presented pyima faoe case, but that good for
esrno.ss ike .n W.: Pre-: and Se
should say that II wasa forgery would the Senate
adminher the oath that pria facie evidenoe9 Bat
hore o protest from the very body whose duty 1t
was to elect Senator's and without whose concurrence
Ser AoF could be elected remarking that they had
the seat and thu. the Governor had rgh give that
ceriAcaae
Mr.. MALLORY (dem) OF Fla, referred to a speech OF
Mr. Hale in 1861 for the purpose Of showing that he
that time assumed grounds contrary 70 those now held
by him.
M NorRsu remarked that prima fdcie evidence was
all the evidence which was resented at one time. The
protests presented by the Senator from Illinois were,
therefore, part Of the prma iace evidence to the
nate 10 decide was do they believe from all the evidence
befere them that he 10 entitled 10 q seat.
Mr. S' 1 on the
that the present credentials similar In form to those
originally presented BY senators fren Virginia.
unconstitutional, and giving history Of the case.
Mr.. BRlaAI, interruptng said, the protest was pro
pared .sd signed before .Se election took place.
WAS reputation Of the act which they anticipated
would be attempted before Was contaminated. He de-
70 the on Judiciary and that they should
upon the matter forthwith.
Aesars HuSIER, ToucsY, and Bull, Of Tennessee, Ar.
gued that the usual course should be pursued VIZ let
the oath be administered and then have the merits
the question investigated.
Mr. SlwARp argued that this case and that Of M Hsr.
Ian were similar, and asked what would the country
think, with scarcely short month intervening after
Harlan was snsy owned the g, case Of
Mr. Hamilton being republican, and Mr.. Fitch demo-
Graf, and three fourths or the Senate democratic
being differ of political opinions among these gentle
MIN. . different rule OF action was 70 be adopted.
In NJ Harlans case oil bis political friends voted for
Mr.. Bun objected 70 the remark Of Mr.. Seward that
under the arbitrary power OF the Committee on the Judi
cary. the Senator ffom Iowa (Hsrsn) expelled BE
thought that that committee dealt justice mparasy
He (Buuer) would say emphacally, and In IN honest
spirit that IN matter involving the constitutional privi
lege Of . member coming from one OF the sovereign
etaies he knew Eeiher the democratic re-
publican aide Of the House. He believed II .
conclusion Of the Committee the Judiciary, one way
the other He knew his remarks would mot find their
the ana
with justice but he should, Is member Of the judi.
o'aSy Oommistee, decline taking jurisdiction on the sub
NJ WILSON, (rep Of Mass, said these imputauous We
commenced By the senator from Indiana Mr. Brish,)
and Senator from Connecticut (hr Toucey) Tosy
he example Of making illusions Of . partisan
character, and assumed 70 rebuke the course
pursued BY Senators Of the other tide Of the chamber
they had before them Of the most supendous and
pgaptc frauds 70 be found In the records OF the country
expected for weeks, and hpre u. He SHOULD vote
soed Thsy had before them he osr,no.ss o. -.
Of Indiana and the declaration Of the Senate
Of that STATE showing that the Legsature elected
n. Fitch . member of this body. he had thought Il
would have been better 10 have referred this matter
the committee, In order Tor 10 examination without
swearing In the gentleman; but during the debate II hsd
Been shown thar the policy Of tho senate has been 70 I'd
NIT The person claiming seat an then refer the papers
He thought they had more TO gain by following the ord
Day course He raid that two years ego the people OF
Indiana che ted out Of Senator 70 acoomps the
present result, and then alluded 10 recent events.
Mr. PuoH iaiaed the point OF order, that Mr. Wilson
were not here 70 answer for themselves.
Mr. BnGHr thought Il unnecessary here 70 enter into
defence Of Gov. Willard, In whose behalf he entsred
general denial Of The truth Of what Mr. Wilson bad said
NJ wnros denied having made personal attack on
Governor willard. He had stated what he informed
we've historical facts, derived from the newspapers ofihe
M. HAAiASD (dem.) Of Iowa, made q statement reA-
tive to the Senate prooeeeings In his own case denying
the Judiciary had treated him with great maSnanimisy
but he hsd doubt they overlooked the great principle
which should have coopoed them.
Mr. Trun bulls motion 70 etsr the credentials and pro
tests 70 the judiciary Committee, were dsagreed 70 by
Yrss-Messrs Cousmer, Cr,enden, Fessenden, Foot Eos
hale, Harlan Nourte Seward Thompson OF Kentucky,
MI inca 10 pursuance Of resolution 70 tina. purpose,
was then qualified and took his seat.
nr. ToosR signlAed HE intention OF moving 10 refer
the papers TO select COMMITTEES, ~ hr. Butter, the
chairman Of the Committee the Judiciary had said he
would not act on the case.
Adjourned.
House Of Representatives.
wAsnSGros. Feb. 2, 1887.
WAGON Road PACIFIC.
The House psssed, By lie against -, Mr.. Chapmans
bill for : wagon road 70 The Paoino
spproprates S3oo oto for the construouco Of wagon
road Fort Rearncy In Nebrsska, via the south pas
of the Rocky Mountains 10 the eastern boundary line Of
via Honey Lake the said road connect with
and form OF the road from rovt Rdgely 10
ImrpscHNDr or Jrpas vAnors or TEXAS
The GU. suon pending was stated Q motion OF Mr.