New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-12-25
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Re .,,.s iseaN,os lisa iLas The slavery qass:4oa,
from being 81 e1ot p'.oEsI ois, r' y e,9 oy~p ~.
uses Of 1850 AID BY the k,rssa BIZ, Pc o1 u'as' a'
general rlle sad Subjected 10 Ibs 7opa2r VII Pc
s,,ely the .sne nac.sr vi oAss acr'.,te issHoa,
| Whaieyer d, vie~s now nsy be, ne lid Del e1pfoss
tba view IN his openice sPss.h. Here g Is, In me
pan psls: form. ss o,dsisd 81 the sepao;i ,,h,,,
s We. s y. H. "a: osass:
sGs ass p; s &, s1 1 y -. g "a @
ha at A. general DIs, tss g-es Pa-ips -
sc ora aai rsui,:s .asI dsns'. n.i.uoaa II :s'i'
;" R.,.sIed the Misaour. r.stI5ton io- the purp'se
of substitu.og Q something elss-a nav " genera
ult IF government In Zen 81 Toe rG's Of aove'n
| merit previously etfo,csc. Way 81, h.. p.'ssIss.
implies iba. be Senator from liooa SEesea Ioe
| ., ,.Jr.y,yerrmeLt fom sone ty-snny aa1 oosDT5d
| l. op toe people; that be gave tnsn Reoe.A
rue IS power which they dii no p-eviou.ly 'sses
Wv be claims merely TO bave taken ono ea,-loa
| from On exceptional position ard plscsd e.osi .
| general rule previously in force. gsnt that
sub,oueIty in tie course OF his rerNk5, hs sp2Ae
Of the Slavery question a. "a e1c'pti 'ns one wnca
ht Kssss bill proposed to place upon toe same 1901
| irg with the oth,r domestic ql.s.i;ns; bu. roi
| 70 in the opening remarks Of his speech
| its foundation. He tells me i dfsr with the
| Presioent. stop rot to ask vhstoer differ with
| bin or the Senator from Illinois. Neither ito
President any other gentleman !, re.pon.loie fx
IL, courpe bu myself / would differ with the one az
tocn as with the othtr IT, thought hs reasoning, or
Il coz illusions at which be arrived were DO. correct
DO Lot leed lie Message t5 tnc Souo.cI JUL inVs
sds IT, ard bis reading 10 oct justified 81 iis as2d
rowheve f:d tie PieeldsEt saying that The ..vey
euettian was ade an exceptional one oy the sosas
bill lie says In subs'a1 CO. tina: was the pCcaiaen,
questicn the which had been oi.eusaed, the one
which hao been sgi:e5 and tbeIetors, that It was
hgbly prop ths it should DO subdtte - the people
az dis.irc. proportion. The Ssua.o- from Il.ooiS
asstr'ednoti in terms but tia ws5 The pnrpet-that
denied the piopiicty Of submitting Stse Consti'u
tisr-ineludh til Of Ia: sal-tJ tne people. d.
til city asserted my regret ihs. j: r5. thu. ssom
ted but dec aed that in my opinion, We had no hight
| 20 90 behind the an honty We hsd rs1osfilsd a.
legal and De MAID its oassion, when that authority
bsd omit ed TO demsLd il. The Senator f:on liools
| must corGIe himself 10 the :eccrd-to whs. l have
.sd-uben he peter ds to q1ots me Or ny sentiments
| lie Senator esks me- as be asked the Ssns.or Lom
PEI syvebis yefercay, Why these inpuelooss about
faction ard oviscn Of the party. lie WAS the first
Senator 10 introduce here wha, be alsnnuendoss and
IiiInsi'ls upe That sub4ct. lie wes toe hrs. 10 a..
sllude 10 any faction in connection Win tts q1esnon
reYely answered biz ausion al az not to &c TAX en
&c tssk for it. did lot qnOe tie Message IS hsss(s
scarcely ade susion 70 it, except 50 10 the ooncir
sioLs st which the President arrived. Has .he Senator
10 Other defsLse than s.tIbunng language to ma did
not utter s,tfibuiiIg sentiments to ne o!d NOT
eIpieas He says he agree, Wit1 TIE Pfes'ient IA
,oire po t. ard differs with him in Others; and the!
6i seiee with bin in some, aad cotcids With bin 10
oihtrs. The aiiisiefco bstEeen the Senator sad
myself is fmply ihis: he denies the fit.i3onss c,n'
soiiI9; while coLcuf both In his reasonng and con-
clutiop.
MI DorGLAs-Nh hat conciusion do you refer to
Mr FircH-The conclusion tbs; the Constitution Of
Kaniae, il it comes before u 81 i is supposed Il Will
frt the CoLv.Ltion directly, without previous sub
mii sion, will nevertheless be Consultation which we
can legally accept, and perhaps, under the crcum.
upeed again end again into this controversy by the
Stpstor have some little bu. not OIL "a, faith Ia po.
cai platforms. You know, Sir, how They are famed
COMMITTEE is appointed to diaf. res5luhonsi toey
| 10 tapre,sly conflict with tie s,Ltolen.s OF the
| wise geiilemtn then sid there assembled tor
| another purpose than to briid political plat
. ,Sl oa sO ss for pr and
forecoih. they are 20 control Government and is
n,Icy from therce hehcetortb, forever. have no
objection to the Cincinnati pls.iorn the contrary,
believe il TO be N admirable ono Il Recognizes, n
aImcst !be language 81 the k:;sas b., tie ngat OF
the people 10 regulate their d. nest,c INSTITUTIONS IA
their ov way The people Of inaas hsve exercised
that rjabt in their own way, a way deemed legal
way TIE Pre- sident deems sga True, there Is Op2o.
iiicn 70 that way, and sone denaad that their ias
tuiens shall be regulated in another Way nemsiy "
what We deem legal source TO th, popular vote
when source from which II eman ated Is NOT CON.
pelIeu by the p-ofle in enscg th' L." eiliog toss
| stuos mo existence T. thus submit It. l should
| be pleased N have it submitted; bat II is
rot by will, but the viii Of tho people Of Ksnss',
legally expressed, which Is 10 cOuirol the matter.
The people Ct hsas's frame thi h,. oTa : "s
| fLd one csllsg convention to fame Cons'iiu-
ticn, without requiring It's Submission TO tho
people. The people, in fact, were wiling TO pa:s with
G, nrc over it. ard leave the whole matter in the
bands Of the Convention. ] chn only koow tneir wi
through their laws ard know no right, except it be
an arbitrary one authorizing me- or Congress 10 got
ice or 60 behind their laws. me Senator taAes er.
ceptiops 10 what he CO Is rsnusiohs NJ Pieiiaent,
much of bis frs. speech was devoted to nsouation,
al hence il i'll becomes him to ch2rSs inslnuN'ns
TO otheis when simply sludiDg 10 his own. L. we'll
Known tina. he isinuated in his opening reInHrks,
| that improper Influences we're a. work upoa mo
Affairs OF ksrsas, either outside villain the Ter
,i.ory, Of hich he possessed knowledge, AMI yes
| be would lot give that knowledge - tho Sen
ate He il simulated, as ia within ms rscoIeoticn OF
every gentleman wLo heard HIN, that solne kid
| Of irfueIce was az wo-k, az improper ard uas1'
| ttoiiyed Influence, to comEel the Slavery clsase
| 10 be struck ont Of the Constitution. lie nsinrAei
9ne sort Of knowledge on bis pa7 that the reIaTns
| Emphasizing the woyc-woa.d chow great MAJOR
ity for striking out that cause though there was
to be second edition Of the Ox!od frsujs though 10
| On oppos e direction; and he had Knowledge OF this
! fact but would lot ommunicaae l.. lais Vas mere
insir uation. Upon wha! was II based Nov. AGAIN,
be Idulges In the same sttaln he lneiaussss tn.'
wthi- si1,y days thoie agreeing with ths pfssi.
den in bis Nisws il relation 10 this matter
southern Senators, will stand side BY aida with hin,
became tie Slavery clause Will, &c Oil pro0aouty, DC
| snCkeE ou'.
| NJ, DorcIAs-I old rot say Northern or S1uthern.
| NJ FITCu-Then those who sgree with tho Pfesi-
dent This il an nsrustioA tina. gertsrnen-he Gays
| he did rot Indicate Southern geEtlemeE- Shc have
avoved, in public sad pirate, III IN views ana theE
deernir alton TO vote fer this Constitution, II cones
force whether the Slavery clsuse be lfi in or voted
cut leaving that question for tae dec.scn OF the peg
pie will CD sDge their dsternIiI alton that .use DC
| stlicke cut Mr. President it was ID AVOID ast sroh
an iu.irus,ion in relation TO myself becsuse knew
would cone tha. cetsrnined, ii o. opportunity OF.
frd 10 sfae the asons ~, Ry action In adysrcs ot