The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-05-20

ocud call nothing was said 70 Its being hers there
great deal trouble get back from the Post
Ocs they had been given 70 Mr.. Girard Foster, the
nQarJ TO him, and they nad gone 20 tbs Post
Once have very distinct recollection OF all that took
place In reference Parrot ~ the station the first time he
said his call his Dubud, and his address Beck
street; this was written on slip OF paper-Mr Da
bud: am German; acquired my knowledge Of French
school, have been IN Paris Parrot told me himself his
case how The money was taken, aud then Parrot
brought out told him Greet had confessed everything,
and upon that he answered 81 am Parrot"
O. WHAT do yoa mean by everything A. mean every
thing az had appeared the taxing OF the shares and all
he rest OF his guilt he had said he would confess every
tbns: when Went to the station the first Parrot
~ for moment; he said he wanted TO send for some
one TO identity him. then Greet was brought out BY Capt
Leonard.
O. You said that Louis Grc,et stated that Guorin, who
had been in the employ Of the company, kne how "
open the chest containing the shares repeat IN as
nearly as on can the words he useds A. "Quu saeas
orwir odls~that Is the expression, as near az can
recoec he said that Guerin knew how 70 de because
he been mechanc he didn't designate any particular
oaiS that remember he said that Guerin had taken out
the shares, as he knew how to do 1t.
Give the words in French, as nearly as you cam
IL; hat mart of the which aid Guern was the
one " no had taken tho sharess A. "Tca Gwer'w gus
Commence rrendre les actions" don't remember that he
said a matchmaker, but don't remember; he didn't
qualify iu any manner when where, or how Guern took
"a stier's dee K. but out Of Inc chest or safe
O. Tell Il In French A. "A o. sdvoI ocrir Ia cotse
(or) bie haven't distinct recollection or the words
used but have or the substance or the idea conveyed;
went 10 the staten impressed with tho belief OF tho guilt
Of the accused have remained Of the same opinion
O. In your direct examination you said they stated
something about having taken shares themselves: state
what eraton was In FrcuchS "Nous eS deons
sts nous Saes' the substance OF the language they
used can't give tho words theee words were used BY
Grclet SAID they sold and the proceeds specu
lated with and lost understood him refer by
Sme to Carpenter Parrot and Greet he mentioned those
names constantly; he didn't state specifically We, Car
pcn,icr Rarot and myself took them In the general
and Paro, were Interested with him In tina. affair; the
French word he used "teyys' the word 'pre,tdre
wss avs used Zeal os stolen Sey uss Si"
he said he FIRST knew or Gucrins taking shares two
three years before he left that the taking had been going
on two or three years. he didn't say when Parrot Grst
knew of It, that Parrot and lie became acquainted with
Guerin's crime at the sam, time; l am sure that
Gr let said he had discovered IL; Louis always sp IKE
in the plural made threats 20 these parties didn't
say them they didn't confcss that they would be
taken back by force mentioned 70 them that The treaty
existed thoy didn't scem 70 be aware OF IT, and that ia
had better return volunaril, am not shareholder In
the railroad company made two vits Saturday 9Th
-one from s, the other ut II tho second ddn ecsIc
my memory Tissandcr Mcn ,calbrah and Charmct we're
present; David Capt Leonard ALSO had somc conversation
Parrot then don't think hc said then that he hal
offended the French laws he did not that he had not
been guilty Of taking shares IN airing tho railroad
rany papers that taken from Parrot brought
as 70 Greet-mouey and jewslry and evxythiug Iddnt
get the 30, 900 francs back from the police Office
O. Were you, In making an arrangement, paying per
cenage on thai boxi A. did.
O. with whom did you make that arrangement
Objected TO- Objection sustained.
O. Was Mr.. Knight the peraouf
Objected TO. Objection sustained.
O. Was IL male or females
Objection. Objection sustained.
O. When this arrangement made Tor the delivery
up of the Tin boxs A. few days before the arrest "
Carpenter
arrest Of CarpentierS
Objection sustained.
O. How much per cent did you pay for the finding Of
81 OOo-a in one check, 100; didn't accompany he
persons to Newburg TO take Carpenter; havs never
boasted that meant send these back don't visit
a gentleman named Post, in Brooklyn.
Q. Did you Fay in any company that you intended
70 see that these men went back to France' A. NO. ar
kind that remember Carpenter was 10 have hlr tho
profits OF the operations In the stolen shares he said 10
me.
Adjourned to April 2, at half pas. ii O'Clock
APRn 2--Matthessen's cross examination continue
O. you make the statement Of which inquired yes
terday TO Mr.. Porteuss A. don't know Mr. Porteus !
don't know Mr.. Osborn, commission merchant
q. Was there any part ,ular reason which Influenced
you call these accused oil the station early or
clocks A. wanted TO see at the request OF Captain
1ouad whether any more papers OF value were among
those seized the ac,used generally at the Office a,
half past g. and wanted to 60 station before gang
Re direct, by Mr. NcKooa-o As to your advice the
aroused 10 30 oucA w Esropc, before after their
statements To yous
Objection overrued.
witncss--It was after their statements 10 me.
O. BY whose orders were such moneys wcrc paid
out advanced A. BY Mr.. nssandier.
Re-cross examined by Mr.. Busted Were the drec
ions which Tssander gave you TO pay money In writing
A. Some in writing, some verbal can't specify
which given verbally and which In writing
Ilstced gives notice produce such in writing
Prosecution declines. Busted that evidence
Issandiers orders to pay money be stricken out Foyer
" opposes. Mr. Il. whdrs rs the motion.
DWitnes-I think those orders must be In ohcc, II
lost; don't know when the hrs either verbal or
written received II l. moro than thirteen weeks ago
think the written order 10 whom moneys u
be paid; cont rccolect the Names not one OF them
q Was Lorenzo do Angels name In the written ordcri
A. think no-hat Is, far as recolloct; so Ear a.
know IL was not.
Q. were You ordered by Issandier to nay him verbal
ly for services IN this matterf A Yes, SIR
q How muchf
Objection sustained Exception.
v Did you Jay DO Angels noney on this orderf
Objection sustained. Exception.
O. lad you aud ar. Christmas obey the orders of nssan
der hai he gave you IN respect OF your duties aud en-
Payments IA respect Of this businessS A. We did
Q state all the persons TO whom you thus paid money
up-n those OrGcrsf
Object on sustained. Exception.
wiincss-I advised all the accused 10 return 10 France
q. What induced you ~ gave this advicef
Objection sustained.
give this aiyiceS
Objection sustained.
y. did Tssaander give you yesterday any writing
whatsoever
Objection.
Witncss-No sir.
O. nd he tell you yesterday that no or his principa
would the payments made by you In this nliterS
Objection sustained. Exception
Prosecution suspenis, TO allow defence TO call.
Jean Raptstc Rochard (sworn through interprccr)-
coachman at Parrots; In Parrots employ TIRE,
years; Paris Parrot horse dealer; he tn,
BouTse he editor of paper; he carried his hor
dealing al "a Rue dc IA Chaussec dAnn; he had horses
sometimes ~ bled out at other places don't know OF any
place transacted business he might have sold twenty
borsos per month; Parrots social position well con
dcrc la his quarter among his patrons the En-
eror and the Marquis Of he sold two horses
to The Emperors househod Parrot lived his stables
this Il correct plan OF the premises occupied by Mr.
Parrot Exhibit e3 @. y Mr. Louis Grcle lived IN the
same buding he tenant Of ParOt Parrot had four
1--WE other tenants In dat building; they sbose Paro
there different stair TO Parrots apartment and
10 reets they both started from the Court the office
The PAPER edited by Parrot 30 Rue do Acheica-the
kondcw frds4sfrti
Croes-examnod-when Parrot went 10 the Bourse-l
don't know what for, he went there almost every day-he
had considerable business.
Prosecution calls-(harcs Christmas svorn-r reside IN
Brookyb of the Attorneys In fact for Auguste Del
mont and attend 10 his business Ia his absence know
Charles Carpenter, Augusta Parrot and Feicte Dubud
fho Gralo IA fho