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paid with from the date Of the commutaon oer
tates issued.
ask for the yeas and nays upon it
The yeas and nays ordered and being iakeni re-
sulted-yeas o nays 35--as follows;
YEAsMsssrs. Bell OF New Hampshire, Collamer, Com
egys Durkee Fesssnden Fish, Foot Foster and SewArds
min. Brg Bslsr BrodSssd Butsr c.ss, Clay, crit,sn-
dsn, Dodge, Evans, Fitzpatrick, Geye Houston, Hunter
rsss n sns' as e ess s..a M.sy
Teacey, Trumbull Wade Weller, and Wrght-sS.
So the amendment was rejected.
Mr.. CLAY. desire to offer amendment to the ninth
section, which reads now in these words:
That this act shall not extend to the Of any officer
his Representatives, who have received halfpay for life
under any special act Of Congress-"
move insert after the words "hafpay' the words
or full pay and after the word special the words "or
general !" that the section will read
This act shall not extend the any officer his
Representatives who have received hapay full for
life under any special or general act Of Congress"
Mr.. EVANS. suppose the senator from Alabama pro-
poses exclude those who have received anything under
any special general The resolution Of March,
was general and BY the amendment, If the officers
received paythat is If they received commutationthey
the design of the amendment That the effect of it
Mr.. CLAY. do not comprehend exactly the honorable
senator's meaning
Mr. EVANS. The amendment proposes that no officer
shall have the benefit Of this act who has received halpay
full pay under any special general act of Congress
Now the resolution of l7s3 giving the communication was
Mr. CLAY will relieve the honorable senator at once
He will see though, that the words Tor life are here
and hence it does not apply TO the communication resolution
OF March, l7s3 The section Will have no reference TO ~
because that was not pay for life but for five years
Mr. EVANS. Then it will exclude those who came in
under the act Of 1925 for they received their fu pay for
Mr.. CLAY. II will exclude them That is my object
to cut them off, because undertook to show yesterday
Of them have received under that act already more
than their half pay for life would have amounted to-
Mr.. BELL, of New Hampshire. wish TO say one word
in explanation of what suppose, will be the effect of the
amendment moved by the honorable senator from Ala
officers Of the revolution the number being probably rather
small--about two hundred and thirty at that time
Mr. CLAY. Four hundred and thirteen
Mr.. BELL of New Hampshire. find that in report
made to the Senate in 1928 by Governor Woodbury. then
member Of this body the number il stated at two hum
dred and thirty Perhaps be may have been In error on
vivng officers at that period entitled under that act
to fulpay pension for life dating back to 1926 The
effect of this amendment is that the descendants of these
ocersmen advanced in life nearly all of them must
suppose having been about soryfve years since the
Communication act passed. although they may have received
but years full pay to be deprived OF all the bene
fits of this BILL II 10 much equitable that
they should receive the hapay others, deduct
ing any amount of full pay that they may have received
under the act Of 1928.
Mr.. CLAY. In reply to the honorable senator will
that have ascertaned that at least officer who
took the full pay under the act of 1928 survived according
10 my recollection, until the year ls46. As stated yes
4
ii any of those revolutionary officers who drew the full
pay under the of 1928 could have drawn the pay
the date of the death of their husband this time
If they be living If here be any snch case, any gentle
satisfy himself, by simple arithmetica cacua
ton that the officer and his widow have realized larger
sum than the hslfpay for lie would have amounted TO-
beginning at the close of the revolution this
amendment because say they have already gotten as
much as han promised them by the resolve
of $780,
will remark, while / up, another argument to
prove how far short the estimates which have been made
Of the actual disbursement under this act will probably be-
the tells that in the report of the committee
that recommended the bill of 1929 the number of officers
who would realize that bounty estimated at two
dred and thirty and yet tell the Senate from an in
pecion of the rolls that four hundred and thirteen drew
their full pay under that act.
Mr.. BENJAMIN | do not think that my friend from
Alabama will reach his object exactly by this amendment
think it ought properly to under the third
section of the bill as printed
The principle of the bill has been changed. The
Senate has adopted the principle of compensation the
him by the depreciation of the continental certificate given
him for his FIVE years full pay. We propose to return
the sacrifice thus incurred. But the senator from Ala
hspay or fail pay The
the that requires remodeng That third section as
printed, reads:
That shall be the duty of the Secretary Of the Treas
ury when the amount due officer has been ascertain
cd aforesaid the hereinafter directed after
dsductng thereom the amount received for
under the resolution Of the I'D Of March, l7S3."
Now propose to strike the words "the amount
cevcd for communication under the resolution OF the 22d OF
March 1881 and insert the words a such such
officer may have received either for half full pay for
life under the act of the 18th of May 1925 any other
act of Congress, general special"
Mr. CLAY Perhaps the senator is correct in his suppo-
sition. will accept his amendment
Mr. PUGH. suggest to the senator to leave the words
amount received for commutatonn in the bill We want
them in.
Mr.. BENJAMIN. These words "for Communication ought
to remain now because have changed the first
ton of the bill That is the very thing granting.
We granting the amount of the sacrifice suffered the
Communication certificates and that from that
must be deducted such the officer has received
either for full pay for halfpay.
Mr.. PUGH. Or in redemption Of the communication How
ever it is not material shall offer amendment to
cover ii.
The amendment was agreed to.
Mr.. T00MBS desire to offer amendment as an ad-
dtiona section to in Immediately after the
third section of the bill:
And be further enoced That all the soldiers of the rev.
on of l77s shall be refunded may
sustained by them of the depreciation the
rency in which they paid compared with Spanish
med dollars to be paid to the said soldiers their legal
representatives, application to the Secretary of the
Treasury of the United States.
BY the resolution Of Congress Of l7s all soldiers who
would continue in the army Of the United States to the end
OF the war fully ended and completed entitled 10
eighty dollars AT the reduction, the end of the
they paid this in continental currency at forty
for one under previous resolution OF Congress directing
that should be paid at that rate AT the time when they
were paid 1t is apparent from the records of the
eseury and the scale of depreciation on file that this cur
rency, which paid them at forty 10 one had gone
low four hundred to one that the eighty dollars
they got currency the rate OF forty to one was not
worth breakfast When indemnify ing the officers
think theee who served or three years longer
and received but the small ptance of eighty dollars in de-