The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-12-11
MORNING EDITlON-FRIDAY, DECEMBER II, 1857.

provisions before the tribunal of the American people,
never differed about its true meaning this subject
That struggle that great struggle of which the Presi
dent speaks occurred at the time when he c1ndi
date for the presidency Of the United States He says
that that occasion Everywhere throughout the Unon
James Buchanan
faith sns sr aSS1 & Ss I
Of Kansas without any restriction qualification whatever
Well sir, the President says they have done this He
says they have submitted the question, without any
striction qualification whatevern TO the people of
Kansas. Upon that point desire TO speak. am not
embarrassed by any Of the other questions which have
suitable time, when i will be most
nient TO the Senate, to be heard; and give notice
may say upon this question, take issue with the Pres
dent deny in whole and in part, in general and In de-
tail that the pledge spoken of by e President has in
manner been redeemed but, on the contrary, assert
that IN no general special have the people Of
Kansas by this constitution the right Of deciding upon
the institutions under which they may live. II is apollo
gy for the President 10 that after they come into the
Union as State they may amend the constitution and
blot whatever is oonoxous because by the consttu
ton which he recommends and desires to adopt, the
who have framed IL have done everything they could
to tie up the hands Of the bona fde people of Kansas If
they have this liberty leff liberty Of any
TO them to Judge and determine to their institutions
they will not have in virtue Of this constitution in
virtue of the proceedings of the Lecompon Convention;
but they will have In spite and in defiance Of this const
tuition by riding over and trampng its authority under
ty, Of which this bat mockery Having said this
much do not wish any longer to detan the Senate
Mr. SEwARD-lf thought il was expedent, Mr.. Presi-
dent, that this day should close upon debate tho
Presidents message-a document which surveys the con-
don Of the whole country and presents TO mankind the
state of interest in t-or intended to do while
only question, and that the question concerning Kan
and slavery in Kansas examined considered
reflected upon by the Senate Of the United States should
not think necessary say anything In regard that
agree that the debate which has been indicated is well
postponed sec that it enlists affirmative and mega
tive Wa hay hann nniga nd tha ~ nf thn
friends Of the President Of the United States who approve
OF this message and the principles contained in it,
PLANTATION, defence Of it, am sure feel for one that
the message lame and impoen in its argument in
this respect and that something will be necessary
than is contained in the document itself am willing to
wait until shall hear-as think the country will
require to hear-thc argument which is pro-
missed in support OF this part Of the message.
On the other hand, the President and those
who differ from him stand on common ground in the
beginning of this debate-that Of the acceptance
Kansas Nebraska bill feel that is due TO those
bers Of the Senate who standing upon that ground differ
from the President the exposition gives Of those
principles at this stage in the progress Of Kansas from
Territorial 10 state government that they should have
opportunity to be heard first. believe that their
argument standing upon that ground, will have greater
effect than even argument OF the same merit proceed
ing the ground from those who have always
opposed the policy and principles of that bill shall
therefore, checrully wait aor that debate only saying
that the circumstances Of Kansas and Of the of free
doom IN Kansas are Imminent and that hope the debate
will not be procrastinated delayed. Before
aware of there may be civil war in Kansas, and pray
that the debate while is conducted 10 give every
person an opportunity 10 be heard will be brought and
closed here early possible will take this to
say that congratulate the Senate and the country and
thank the President United States the improved
spirit in which this dticult-n some respects painful
and yet most important subject is presented the great
Improvement on the messages which have been received
by Congress from his predecessors in the exalted station
which he ls Now, in order that all the parts OF this
sage may be known to have had consideration here
wish to notice that portion of the which relates 10
the rcial and financial troubles the country
10 that IL the President and his administration shall be
able to suggest any measures which shall tend TO ory
the currency Of the country and its industrial
interests from the periodical convuons 10 which they
are subject hope those measures will be communicated
70 Congress at an early day apprehend there will be
found cheerful response the part the representatives
OF the States and people any udcous and safe
that may be adopted for that purpose hut decama
ton on the subject will do little nothing must take
occasion to add, that while think shall make obec
ton, At present advised, to general bankrupt law
which shall exercise salutary control over the fiscal in
stutions Of the several States, yet do not under
stand bankrupt law which is confined merely TO fiscal
operations be a " uniform" bankrupt law within the
Gaming OF the constitution Of the United States re.
gret TO see that there s not only no ntmaton OF desire
the part OF the administration TO extend the provisions
OF any bankrupt law which may be passed to debtors
other than corporations but that such purpose
be excluded from the view OF the administration In the
message which has been presented 10 The message
treats Of our foreign relations. ] think II may be
garded as subject on which can congratulate the
people Of the country that the disposition OF the admins
traon is pacific at the same time that Is firm and
tonal and am happy 70 be able to add for myself the
expression OF satisfaction with the which the
administration indicates in regard especially TO the subject
Of relations with Great Britain and the States this
continent involving Central America have felt mortified
and Inundated % learn-after the pains which had
been taken, and the concessions which had been made
by tho President and Senate OF the United States
that the just and liberal treaty offered them at the last
session has been rejected There another
perhaps more seriously painful and Immediately
dangerous than any 70 which have alluded, and that Is
the troubles in tho Territory OF Utah On that subject
hepe may be understood that tho opinion Of the Amori
can Congress substantially unanimous, and that the
world may be assured that the government OF tho United
States will not suer s name 10 be arDsbed ia power 10
be nsulted the lives OF It's citizens 10 be destroyed by
enemy intrencbed although he be In the Rocky Noun
ains, under the forms Of the constitution OF Territory OF
the United States. do not Immediately commit myself
10 the project Of increasing the army by the addition or
four regiments; but do say that every which
shall be proposed, and be best calculated 20 establish
peace and order that Territory, shall have my most
cheerful support beg leave 10 suggest % thai portion Of
the Senate who may constitute hereafter Committee
Military Aars and may have charge Of this subject, whc
ther will not be worth their while consider whether the
Pacific coast will not furnish the proper for the
smcnt Of men, and for the despatch Of soldiers 10 que
this rebellion, and whether the operations necessary
be advan,ageousIy instituted in California than
on this side Of be mountains.
Mr.. DorGrasAs there seems TO be disposition 10 de-
bate this question before have the
ton 10 print and there have been inmatons both
sides Of the chamoer-for seem to stand between the
particshat they waiting 10 hear what may have 20
say upon this point " be agreeable TO the Senate will
very briefly state my Of dissent 10 when
the Senate shall meet order not TO delay vote
Mr.. MAsoS-I do not know how u is with other Sc
nators but before this debate is gone into, should be
very much graned 10 have opportunity Of examining
those documents upon which the President rests his
Judgment In the communication be has sent Kansas
very distant place from and for free TO
declare that all the information have been enabled 10
obtain from there during the last six months has
through very questionable upon every subject
whether Of incidents occurring there OF their laws
their action. We take II for granted that the Pres
dent has sent 10 body Of information derived officially
on wheh he has rested the Judgment given in his mes
sage. submit to honorable senators, therefore, whe.
ther should not, for the propriey Of the occasion.
well for information allow these documents
be printed speedily possible Being feet,
viii take the occasion 30 declare that. understand
by the Presidents do understand at present.
that he that the action OF the Kansas Convention
being legitimate Convention be the action Of the Con
venton what may, TO be respected by the Congress
OF the United states not only agree with him but here
that there jurist in the land who could de
monstrate question OF law that the federal
ment bound 10 respect under the existing lawI
the Kansas Nebraska act That act gave those
people the whole political power, without any reservation,
submitting only In its exercise 10 the constitution OF the
United States II now 10 critcise what they have