New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-03-04

a Wba rrssched that mo Joa' a | csnno. tsr
YOU; tsre we're great nanJ talNi:s persons pre-ea
q tis' cay
Nj II 5-u-I want 10 know becs1e4 | ~alt % So
The .ff@ci ut g-saciihg 70 The ciefgy.
The Wtlefs-EVIy msn pre-en' ~bo taxed and
= nom 1 20 ba0 that tsecry u bis head
NJ Tdden- Now. Ssnt you 70 -peclfv sDpeb -tF
= bo pres 'fso tts; theory INTO your hesd dif
40 hos brs ptT-1l The rOJr, ouf nsziy evesy-
bcOs " tie I'D "a, p. ekicg abvlt Il
q. DID so know anybody VINO sent theref A
No Sr rote Kept ST ecef OF ny CtI,c8 emo rest
With Ds
O. An sou CO r. ;o -h.re the q, era theory A.
No Sir l. q - tOry utu came - the 6ui.1lng
q Ard wteD son g. iu-id- the suilong yyu bead
a. pifsChlns OF he tte y ycn cal T. snf you
70 slas .hs' theory ! got IA Il i1neEe-sioG,
and sUpyl "a ue ;sC-s 20. bat my fat1 10 list
tLt1D as lightly sh-kcL ebru | welt up a1d cav
the oesd b,dy.
O. That 1ss ere Of the fess, NJ After you lad ssen
The cad boy that you ~er~ not shIog Ia swear A
1tsf WISE ore had Lot iher entirely oblters.ed ths
theory and tut q -ed hat shen | Mr. h. kei l
s'Oas the msu , ao msfriet.
Mr. Clinton Piea~e ak hin what he thovgh when
be did ~ Mr. ECkel
BIZ TideI-Ycu the ustt You should man with
more points OF resemblance 4 IGd.
Q You consi1ered il question Of relative points Of
resembapCe7 a | considered | shOulc see a msu
rear lis voice, and zee his walk, and you'd therefore
zee more points OF reseDbla nce than could IN DR..
RmceB. aId ,har If | did so | should fI upon hin
TIE msp Married, bat | such man IN Mr
Eckel saw nothing ID NJ. kckel resembling the man
| man iec-uot thing.
Q. Did you state ina. in the retxsminstion1 |
don't kuUe eb-trer | d'd or nOt, s4ld he ~as cot
TIE msn; / ueed that general expe sion.
q. Did YOu st4'e II IL that positive t)rn A. 1
thin Z did | gave thea u uEderste 9 Tia; do
;hirk be v.s be m.ui you hsve ny tefm'ny printed
. before You aud y'U can stSte.
MI TLCeu-i am 10 fet whether you are able to
sCEtle 10 lie t,s-ic ouy you gave then Wbst res 90
did YOU Eta e t, thnkiog Mr. Ecke IVES rot The ms1
a. | do not know wo-iher ] gave hen the tea'ons
H. ku. I I'D 4 q Il
il you wouio Ike iheD.
NJ Tildtn-I do got want them, but set | do not OBJ
ec 10 them.
Dir Tceu / DO Lot want them. because we are no
:IJIIe Mr. Ecse here.
q. Did you state anything further IN your ersmins
[ on than merely this-ths; Mr.. Eckel did not look a.
much Ike the man you married as the body A. Yes
Sn soue hing equiv anet 10 thatths, the m 30 whose
BODY had seen upstairs resembled The man married
more thar Mr. Eckel.
O. Did state thing more pori'o thah 'ho'
A. | do tot know as | did.
Nv Tioen-AnswtT my question
Winess-lf YOU have any testimony before you on
that occasion read it, and will tell you whether so
stated or not.
O. Were YOU examined three time A. But twice
Mn Tilden here Iesd paragraph OF the testimony
of witness before the CoOners Jury ara fousd IL las
sub-isutialy the sane = he gave II nov
O. Did you state ANYTHING more positive than IN II
A. | 90 not remember they may have asked me The
OifltreICe between u e Two 80
u. w 2
time or the subject A. No. Sir; in my o wn mind
knew Dir Ecktl was not the man the moment visited
him ,,u
O Why did YOU not state so7 A. think did tell
them thar he not The msu; did tell the COroners
Julv that he not the man n 81 msny words.
M Tuden after examining the printed eyldencel-
YCu stated that you old not recognize bun
Nh TIlaei-ALd al that time the theory received
eecord sbock? NJ oear Sir 1t was al gore from that
nomoIi; | knew bad married Burdel, and am conn
dent Of II now. ,...
Mr. Tilden-Let US have that down. We don't wish
to iIap ,ou only wish to get at the g'ounds OF
your opinion. Suppose when you went T. see Mr..
Eoie ard you had CUrd he looked more Ike the dead
body than he did, what would have BEEN the effect on
youi opinion a. My opinion weu'd have 6een that
he was the man
O. And that DR. Burdel was not the m,n2 A. II
there he'd been more PORTS Of resemblance than there
vae in Burdell bocy, most assuredly would have
fixed upon him. -. -,
q That would have been 20 whether you distinctly
recognized thi man T. kel or not A. would have
liked upon rim uuoo-b'ed >; | should have done vio-
lei re 20 NY own nilo lo' g. have done 20. ,-,.,
q. aud N"U 10 heVe bel evea tbai burden
was rot tie msnl | shouC have believed t1dt |
married Mr E,ksimd rtoe name at Il FdcIli should
have gore bscE to he old taeory again. .,....
M PatefeOn-Ne 90 not go up-h tue lneofy that
she married 10 Eckel
MIR Clinton You did until tie ,heoIy eSpl oed
Nj P,tier % ON theory &c ths sAe nas / nar
liec TO Harvey BWdell.
Mr Clnto1-I think we shall have T. get ou' q
search yarrsr.t aud III ske yOu COIN out ihs man.
Mr. Tiiden-1htn, III Jour opinion, 1t VA question
between those Nv persons, 80 far ~ your c.'nnny
that time was concerned A. After | had seen the
dead bcdy snd bt f, re he'd Eckel had the be
lief 10 a certain degree that BuIdel tue mao
whom had married, because there were points OF re-
stmbsnce; after | had visi'ed Mr. Ecke, my susp
co.'s that Mr. Eckel might have been the man van
shed.
Q. Whist was the effect upon youl A. The effect
Was TO strengthen me IN the belief that Burden was
the man.
Q. Was the belief decided A. Yes, Sir, pretty de-
cG1d. -
Q. That is the the CRY sou hold now A. Yea, Sir;
il has all alcng been Strengthened have endeavored
to recall the atures e the party married and com
rare them with the features OF the dead body.
Q. You have stated the gr unds of your former and
y,ur present theories, have you stated them all
A. may not; | mot tell.
q. As nearly as you are able a. les as nesrly
ss am able al present
q. You sts'e what your present opinion Is io'pded
upon as fully yOu row able to staie 1t A. les
Sir fully ss ain now able 70 stste It might state
other tt ngs that Just occur 10 me at this moment;
have had several pesors who are acquainted with Dr.
Burdeu who suew him very well and described the
men, how they looked and bow he acted.
Mr. tdwaids objected 70 this testimony.
Mr. Tllden dt sired il 10 be ADM ted
The Surrogate ADMITTED the testimony.
The Wiinees-I have sern several persors who have
described Mr.. BuIdel, snd who are well acquainted
with him and have tod me how he looks, acts, talks
Ac. After they have finished, my reply has uniformly
been YOU have described the man | married
Q. Who these persons A. Many persons hsve
talked to in reference to this. whose names do
rot krow; | could mention names, especially one-a
very respectable lady who ves in the Second or Third
avenue but DO her name will get into the papers;
che employed him dentist for herself and family.
g. Ard her representations strengthened ysur be
let A. she described him exactly, much so that
| said he is the man married.
q. And ;heee circumstances have led you TO come
to yoer COZ clusionl A. They taye only sthed
the conclusion that previously arrived 81.
Q. That conclusion they have strengthened