Glasgow weekly times. (Glasgow, Mo.) 1848-1861, 1857-12-31
Interesting Debate - Douglas and Bigler
Again. Fs.-sa,s "a

Teac OUT Vi the parry, 'anu' Us LOT HIS pIos-
poets, says he, ''let time determined"
Mr.. DouGLAs wanted to know by what
authority Mr., Bigler said the Lecompton
movement was All Administration measure.
The message does not say so. Had he any
higher authority than that?
Mr.. BIoLEn replied that he had made the
deductions from the message and from what
he knew in addition. He did not assert in |
terms that it was an administration measure;
but said that the Administration held the
movement legal so far as it has progressed.
How could the President make a recon-
mendation prior TO the result Of the vote
which he says in his message he is waiting
for?
Mr.. DouoLAs replied that he should like
10 know what other sources Of information
Mr.. Buchanan had, as that Senator had that
much advantage Of him.
Mr.. Boiler was not at liberty TO say that
this was an Administration measure, ard
would allow Mr.. Douglas 10 define what ii
was,
Mr.. DouoLAs again wanted to know
what these other sources of information
were which authorized Mr.. Bigler to read
hlm out of the party for not sustaining that
measure.
Mr.. BioLER denied that he said one
word about reading any man out of the par
ty. Did Mr.. Douglas mean to make no is
sus with the Administration? When he
makes an issue, can't he tell what it is.
Mr.. DoUoLAs-The Senator did not Use
the words, but he insinuated strongly 10 that
effect. He seemed TO be carrying out The
system which had been pursued by every
pensioned letter writer for the last few
years, intimating that he (Douglas) had
dissented from the Democratic party and
passed TO the Republican. -
/ Mr.. BrcLER-1 deny any such accuse,
ton. ! said that the Senator'S position had
excited momeniary qualification oil the other
side OF the chamber, and regret on this.
Mr.. DouGLAs replied, he had been de-
notInced by men who were willing 10 sink
the Administration for the purpose OF kill
ing off Northern men, that every press
which could be controlled, is thus conirol-
ed. II is undeniable. that nineteen TWEEN
teths Of the independent press, those that
do not depend upon The Government for
support, are with him in Sustaining the
creed OF the Democratic party aud the Gin.
cinnati Platform; but the few who are al
lowed 10 speak for themselves. are endeav-
oring 10 drive him where they could not
drive him, 10 desert the principles avowed
and maintained by the Democratic party
He wanted TO know whether every man is
to be driven ont Of the party because he
does not coincide with the President OH the
questions Of the Pacific Railroad and ,he
Bankrupt Laws, as applied 10 banks?
/ Ii every one Of the gentlemen around
him were at liberty thus to dissent from the
President on the Bankrupt Law, Pacific
Railroad, Tariff and other measures, was
not he (Douglas) permitted 10 Judge for
himself OH the subject OF The Leconpron
movement? He did not understand the e&.
traordinary desire 10 strike blow which
would either cripple him or drive him out
Of the party, or make the country believe
that he had left the party. Would the Sen.
ator from Pennsylvania endorse every re-
commentator in the Presidents Message
and say that he is prepared TO carry it ont;
Mr.. Boiler replied that it was not at all
probable that he agreed with every senti.
: men, of the President. He had no desire
10 lay down rule by which the Senator
should be read out OF the party.
Mr.. DOUGLAS wished to know if the Adj
ministration did not regard it as wanting in
party feeling of those who refused TO sup
port the Lecompton movement?
: Mr.. BrcLER replied that he could not &c
any farther into the subject. He had al
ready endeavored to express his views with
, all the clearness Of which he was capable
the Senator thought proper to assume that
tits was q party measure, and that he
Douglas was out of the party, because he
; differed with the Administration, that's hi.
(DouglasO own business. He (Bigler,
5 had laid down no such rule.
2 Mr.. DoUoLAs replied that the Senate,
: from Pennsylvania informed the Senate tina
J., he had other sources Of information IN re
, gard TO the purposes of the Administrators
in making this party measure. He be-
n leved that the charges that he douglas
= was going over TO the Black Republicans
e were made by men hostile to him, and actu
ally hostile TO the Administration. They
8 were from persons who desired to get hin
e into false position for Interior purposes
He did not mean that men whose claims 4
tne commence OF lhe democratic parry
were not superior TO his OWL, should reac
c him out Of the Democratic party.
l. The report being circulated everywher
C that the President is prepared 10 put III
| knife to the throat of every man who dare
to differ from the Administration and think
> for himself on this question, he believe
o that those who circulated such reports wer
a enemies TO the President; he wished TO civ
% his friends an opportunity TO deny III
IS charge.
10 Mr.. BroLER-"Who makes the charge?
Mr.. DouGLAs-"Thc newspapers OF Nh
! country are full of il. The Senator SCENE
e. TO make his argument as il | were ou,sid
d, of healthy Democratic organization. Id
lie not recognize the right of that Senator, {
anybody on earth TO expel me-"
Mr.. BrotEs-''In no shape or form hay
4 | been aboIng TO put the Senator ont Of Il
party. 1t is true, do show m this que.