The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-03-03

be fixed by law these terms be known and il is
within the power of the representatives of the people
1 fix them, that power ought to be maintained.
ins st that the argument made, that this government
give real substantial aid to this enterprise true
We do not know what the price that is to be fixed for
messages If we bave but one message we pay $4,000
| If we have pay $4,000 but If We have more
messages than would amount to $4,000 at the fixed rate
we to pay We are to pay $4,000 year,
when their income exceeds six per cent their capital
hen they forward and admit that they making
six per cent you TO pay them $50000 annually. am
France Austria and Russia according the laws of their
own government This is internal question with Eng
land If England holds this telegraph and allows it to be
used would use il as would those in my country;
butt will bind my country where there is reciprocity
all on one side and above all am not to bs deluded by
general pledge the treasury of my country
build this oceanic telegraph for that is what the propo
silion is in substance.
Mr. BAYARD | am unable to see that there eny mo-
nopoly in this CASE and if thought So should be nds-
posed vote for the bill That this line viii be laid if il
il practicable at ALL whether make this subscription or
not have doubt but there is advantage gain
in making the contract which has not been advered to
by my honorable friend from Louisiana, that think Of
great moment If the telegraph made without any stp
ulaon of this kind part have not the right of
preference which is given by the bill under any contract
be concluded Of equality with Great Britain the
simple basis that the messages from the governments aha
be transmitted in the order in which they arrive the sta
TONS having priority over all individual commu. .dca-
uons This to my mind, is great advantage in te trans
mission of intelligence connected with the best interests of
the country between Europe and America The relations
OF this country with foreign governments the disturbances
that may exist abroad the attitude of affairs all Eu
rope matters that ought 70 come to u.s. not as some
things have come to within the last six months through
the columns of the New York Herald but ought be
able to have an official communication from minister
III we pass this bill the right to transmit through
our own agents. by of this telegraph official COM
municaton Immediately from country he other anv
matter that your foreign ministers in any of Europe
shall Judge material to the inerests Of their country to
have known here at the earliest opportunity Is this moth
ing? Is it not consideration for which this government
can afford to pay S0000 including in that also the
expenses oil the transmission of the messapes2
is true it may be said that if transmit no messages
we nave TO pay, and any gentleman who enertans the
the government will have occasion to make use of it.
with perfect proptety refuse to vote for this BILL diff
Ter widely from any such opinion believe it is Of great
Importance to u.s. confess with particular partiaty
to the general policy of Great Britain that do think in
reference to this question: she has behaved with iberaty
to this country in placing the same footing with her
SELF is she has colonial possessions on this cont-
nent which require communications with her This gives
her an interest on this continent that have abroad
out IN the general transmission of intelligence between
country and another stand upon an equal footing in
point OF interest and point Of right under this BILL with
herself.
agree with the senator from Georgia that discretion
ought never to be trusted to department further than the
necessity require but who yet heard that Legislative
Dody was proper body to enter into all the details Of
cohtractf we never do 1T IN any We impose linn
itations stNal
The PRESIDENT pro tempors The Chair will asS the
senator to suspend his remarks the hour having arrived
for the consideration of the special order which Is the
finished business of the last adjanEnpept, :, q. 10 - ~
question this BILL
Mr.. DOUGLAS. l am satisfied vote cannot be taken
now and must therefore insist the special order.
know the debate will be continued.
MI SEWARD. am placed in rather unpleasant po-
sion but shall have TO ask for the yeas and nays and
vote against taking up bill to make free State.
Mr.. 4%ogaLAs % That comes up of course.
MI. RUSH think we can vote on this subject in q
snort time do not wish to tread on anbody's toes;
believe could very easily have answered great deal of
the apparently plausible arguments against the bll but
40 not intend to say another word the subject 1t is
UOea oyAr Eyarv
body knows that the special order now coming up will
consume time and we are near the close Of the session.
There is the tariff BILL which has be attended to- and
then the appropriation bill will Immediately next.
think gentlemen pretty well tired of debating this
question, and we get vote it, move therefore,
postpone the special ORDER continue the consd-
GRAFTON of this subject @ a' s.... .... Ess
Me-, CoLLAMER Having reported this BILL suppose it
would be by courtesy my right to close the debate upon it,
but presume that the discussion has gone long that
members all understand it well enough and unless gen.
een desire to speak against merely for the purpose of
defeating 1t by time, think may well take the ques
ton now. waive the right have by courtesy TO close
the debate in order to let the question be taken
me PRESIDENT pro empore The special order Is the
bill H R. No 642 authorize the people Of the Territory
OF Minnesota to form constitution and Stale government
preparatory to their admission into the Union equal
footing with the original States 1t is moved by the
tor from Texas to postpone it for the purpose continuing
the bill under consideration
Mr. DOUGLAS. If the vote can be taken on the tele-
graph bill now willing TO let it be done. If not,
must insist on going or with the Minnesota bill
Mr. lVERSoN. call for the yeas and nays the post
popement. ..a..
Mr. BAYARD l am willing to abstain from single
further remark this subject the Senate ready to
vote
Mr. PUGH. In my Judgment the fate of the Minnesota
bill depends its being taken up shall vote to take
1t up but if there friends of that who think
this scheme Is of superior Importance wish to say that
far my judgment goes they will be responsible for the
loss of the bill. ask for the yeas and nays
Mr. DOUGLAS. The Minnesota bill is up and the
question is postponng it. t#
The PRESIDENT pro empore. The question is post
popng all prior ORDERS for the purpose OF continuing tho
bill Is No 493) before the Senate On this question the
yeas and nays have been asked for
The yeas and nays were ordered and being taken
sulted-yeas 90, nays 34--as follows:
YEAS-Messrs. Adams Bayard, Bell of Tennessee, Ben
jamin, Brodhead, Brown, Colamer Durkee, Fish, Foot,
lOry Pratt Rusk, Seward Thomson of New jersey Wade,
and Wilson'S.
, NAYS-Messrs. Allen, Bell of New Hampshire Biggs
Biger, Bright Butler, Cass Clay, Critenden, Dodge,
Douglas, Evans Fessenden, Fitch, Fitzpatrick Green,
Hale Hunter verson Johnson Jones of Tennessee, Mason
Nourse, Pugh, Reid, Sebastian, Slide, Stuart Thomp
son of Kentucky, Toombs Toucey Trumbul Weller, and
Yulee-34.
So the Senate refused to postpone the prior orders
The bill to enable the people OF the Territory OF Mime
sofa to form constitution preparatory to admission as
State after much debate passed as 1t came from the
House of Representatives
The Senate again resumed the consideration of the
oceanic telegraph bill which also passed as amended
by the House of Representatives.
GoLD FROM New MExIco.-Mr. Wm. Williamson showed
to (says the St Louis Republican, day two since
specimen of gold imbedded in quartz brought from New
Mexico 1t was obtained the foot of the mountains thirty
miles south of Santa Fe the road to Albuquerque in
region where conner abouns but gold has been undscoy