The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-12-09
THE PRESIDENTS MESSAGE N CONGRESS.
Speeches Of Senators Douglas, Seward and others
on the Kansas Question,
60. &c.. AZ.
THIRTY-FIFTH CONGRESS-.
FIRST SESSION.
Senate.
WASHINGTON Dec. 4. 1a6Y

WASHINGTON, Dec 8, 1867.
The Message Of The President Of the United States was
received and read
THE SENATE PRINrSo-pmATE THE KANSAS QUESTION.
Mr.. DOUGLAS (dem.), OF Illinois, submitted motion
for printing the usual number OF copies OF the Mes
sage and accompanying documents, and $1,000 copies
theseof for the use OF the Senate. He remarked
that no concurred heartily and cordially in the views
Of the President therein expressed, with the excep
ton OF that portion relative to Kansas and the action OF
the Lecompt0n Convention. At early day he would
express his views and give reasons why be believed that
the people not left the organic act
declared perecty free form and regulate their in
institutions in their own way"
Mr. GwrN (dem.) Of Cal, offered substitute:-"rhat
all the printing be executed by the printer 70 the Senate
ut the last session.
Mr. STUART (den Of Mich concurred in Mr.. Douglass
day he would speak the subject and insist to the
tent Of his ability that the people OF Kansas should be
IKE az ana nave Ave the eIi vs
Mr. DAvD (deml Of Miss, concurred in the views OF
the President tho Kansas question and would await
the promised remarks Of Mr. Douglas before he
Mr. BIaIm (dem) Of Pa, gave notice that he should
defend the position assumed by the President TO the
bis ability, and chat he would respond TO Mr. Douglas
Mr. DOUGLAS accepted Mr.. OWNS substitute.
Mr., HMx Tep) of n. H., spoke in opposition TO the
that would perpetuate slavery in Kansas, matter
whether the people accepted rejected the slavery
clause
M SEWARD (rep) of N. Y, would be glad to hear the
suppners of the President explain his position, for it
seemed to him that the message very lame and inn
potent in its arguments Kansas, and that something
would be required to satisfy the public mind than
contained in the document itself c trusted that the do
bate this point would not be delayed long, for before
aware Of IL there might be civil in Kansas.
After reviewing other parts OF the message he said he
hoped that 1t would be understood that Utah affairs
Congress substantially unanimous, that the world
might be assured that the government Of the United
States would not suffer its fame to be tarnshed its power
nsulted and the lives OF rs citizens destroyed by an
enemy, enrenched though II be in the Rocky Mountains
and under the forms OF the constitution OF the United
States.
Mr. MASON dem) of Va, free to declare that all
information for the last months relative 10 Kansas
aiiaics had come from questionable SOURCES II he under
stood the Presidents position and he thought he did the
Presidents position was mpregnabe.
Mr. TRUaBuIL, (rep of ILL.,, denied that the Legislature
Of Kansas lad authority to initiate the Convention
according TO speech delivered in the Senate by Mr.
Buchanan himself act OF usurpaton Congress had re-
peedy refused to authorize the people OF Kansas to form
State constitution Much had been said about popular
the great exposor Of the party giving the free white
people Of Kansas the right TO determine the condition of
few negroes while they are prectuded from regulating
their own institutions in their own way.
Mr.. BRowS, (dem.) of Miss said there seemed to be
great anxiety to eLter into discussion and especially
find fault They had heard the Message mperfecty read
by the Clerk and therefore could properly undersan
H. He asked Senators TO pause and sleep the docu-
mepts before nduging in debate which would go forth
to Kansas, and giving tone to public opinion,
premises not yet perfectly understood. He asked Sena-
tors reflect before taking their positions and uttering
sentiments under the circumstances 10 which he had
ferred.
On his motion the Senate then adjourned.