The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-01-14

NV own ease II Is 80 with half the members of the Sem
ate Then il legislative actf Can legislative ACT
be performed BY the house Of ~ ~nsss ma
formed by the legislature in joint oonvenuon put not
legislative in the ordinary seceptauon OF the TERM
because house or the other dissenu
When the senator from Iowa was elected what happen
cd majority Of the house OF representatives voted for
him. and majority Of the senate voted against him. or
would have done If they had been present What hap
pened when friend from Virginia elected Precise
iy the thinga majority of the house OF delegates
voted in his favor but majority of the senate voted
against him Then, want to know by what authority q
majority Of the American Senate will undertake TO declare
that the senator from swa is not elected but that the sen
ator from Virginia is
Why sir we are told that majority of the Virginia senate
was present Present for what purpose Simply 10 WIT
the proceeding but not TO take part in it. They
showed by their that they voted against the cleo
ton of the il necessary in order TO elect
him that there should be legslatve acthat is that both
houses should you concur in passing an act Oh
Congress of the egsatuehen be was not elected for
house dssented gentlemen declare that II egs
atve and cannot be perfected otherwise than as an
act of legislation is perfected then declare that not only
the senator from Virginia. but at least onethird OF tho
members of the whole Senate here assembled never were
properly elected and not entitled to their seats to-day
because majority of the house the other in joint
convention voted against them when all were present
That was the point present the senator from
Illinois when rose to PROFOUND question to him.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. did not hear the point
Mr.. BROWN. Never mind. The senator did not listen
to me, but listened to him.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. stepped out.
| Mr. BROWN. / did not step out was here at the
time The then took the ground that there was no
legislature without quorum take exactly the other
ground that there Is legislature without quorum we
have it exemped here every day This Senate meets day
after day and it is the Senate of the United States though
there is VIGOROUSLY quorum present Suppose that
refused to agree to the proposition to adjourn over 10
Monday, and agreed to meet tomorrow informally ana
the President and Secretary of the Senate should meet
here would they not make up a record as a Senate
Would it not be meeting of the Senate on that day
do not that it would be Senate for Legislative
hra.x that, haua rio IN aca
would be the Senate of the United States sitting on the
10th day of January 1857 undertake to maintain that
the Senate sits when there no present The con-
sttuton in particular cases. has authorized less number
than quorum to do particular acts 1t has not author
lied them to pass laws but it has authorized them to DC
/ other particular things.
1t has been more than intmated in the progress of this
debate that the majority present chat is the majority Of
the larger housethe house of representatives. has the
right ascertain whether majority of the senate is pres
ent deny it. They have right to ascertain any such
thing either in joint convention in separate convention
Suppose you pass bill to-day you do almost every
dayI say this sub rosa it is not to 60 on the record
without there being majority Of the Senate present. and
you send it to the other house. would you not think
strange if that house should undertake ascertain
they have the right ascertain whether there is
quorum in separate meeting how do they get the right IN
joint meeting2 deny the right to do any such thing
Going back to the point which discussed this morning
and which had hoped would be considered here, say
when the two houses have met in joint convention that
joint convention cannot be broken up except by some ac
ing the law break up the convention see not how
be done by majority of either house Withdrawing
captousy for the purpose accidentally breaking up the
mt meetinga meeting called in conformity with the
| constitution,
i Mr President neyer intended from the beginning e
enter into regular discussion ct this question Inc tu
have said in obedence 70 tRe dicates u ~.
own Judgment with the view of arriving at correct conc
sons myself and just should not have spoken az al
If the from illinois had chosen ut the proper time
allow to ask him question as -staGa as !ne 10
ft,afT IN
structon the point and thought he rather ruaey 70
pulsed me. About that nothing am not the maj
to care for such things -,
Mr. DOUGLAS desire to say to the senator from Mis-
sisspp that when he interrupted and desired to ask
question: he remarked, II think know what the senator
about to say" and he going on to answer me. real
ly thought would be appropriate for him to wal
until said what he supposed was going TO say ana the
reply was expecting him afterwards to rise, when hat
made the statement and should then have cheerful.
yielded but he did rise thought he found out tina
he mistaken in supposng he knew what intended
say and that what did say satisfactory to him. ant
therefore he did not interrupt me.
4 Mr. BROWN. If the senator understood me he I'm
derstood me amiss. did not say 30.
Mr. MALLORY. ! suppose that no one desires to con
clude the debate this afternoon. understand that sew
eral gentlemen wish to speak on the question, and NOV
that the Senate adjourn. t.#.#
Mr. COLLAMER. move what suppose is my priv
lege to move, reconsideration of that vote which wa
said have been passed for adourning over to Monday
next
The PRESIDENT p7a tsmpors Does the senator from
Il Mr. MALLORY. For that purpose do.
4 Mr. BUTLER Permit me to make suggestion which
perhaps, may have influence. If to meet to
morrow discuss this subject let indicate partc
uar time when the debate shall close would respect
fully suggest to gentlemen here three o'clock on Monday
proper hour and let the vote be taken At that time
Mr. FESSENDEN. Provided we meet tomorrow.
Mr. BUTLER. Yes, sir. think ten minutes, after wha
has been said viii b time enough for me to present my
\ views. make the suggestion,
Mr.. STUART. think, if the Senate will agree TO NEE
i to- morrow take the question then.
i Mr.. BUTLER. There will be but very few members herr
1 tomorrow.
i Mr. SEWARD II we agree to meet tomorrow, but no
to take the question them is 1t supposed that shall actu
ally meet with larger force with greater regularity
than the legislature of iowa did in this joint convention
/ Laughter.
| Mr.. STUART. do not think we shall
/ Mr.. COLLAMER / withdraw my motion to reconsider
4 Mr.. MALLORY. move that the Senate adjourn.
i The motion agreed TO- and the Senate adjourned to
Monday.
Execution OF THE woULD-BR ASSASSIN OF THE KING OF
NAPLEsThe Naples correspondent of the London Daily
News gives interesting particulars relative to the execution
i of Melapo, who attempted the Kings life:
/ "Meano accompanied by double file Of Chasseurs
body of mounted gendarmes, and the Banch, with the
covered with black at the head of the cortge Ae
he had been blinded he endeavored to look from beneath
the bandage upon the people, and while throwing back h
head for this purpose his shake fell OH and was not re
placed,
aTbe scaod erected in the midst of the Piazza Cav
alcatoo which was lined with detachments of troops from
every corps in the garrison and ousce as well upor
i the houses, vast crowd had assembled. Whilst he
being taken round In car, he continually prayed, kissed
the crucifx and exclaimed Viva Ia RaigoneF viva
| to the scaffold.
The particulars of the execution are disgusting as