New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-11-18
Lesyepvorth had referred 10 our fathers and the

Democracy. They established representative ne
public. They knew that Democracy could not
tast dsy. Look at France. The failure of the
Revolution there was because they tried 10 establish
a Democracy. The speaker assailed Mr.. Jones for
saving that il was not a majority Of the people
that elected this Convention. What was Mr.. Jones
doing here from day TO day Here Mr.. Jones rose
and said that be had never said he was not eected
legally, but he had said, and would cay, that the
vote poled at that time for Delegates was not one
fifth Of the votes they had registered or more than
one tenth Of the vote recently cast Mr. Litue re-
sumed. TIE situation of the gentleman Is not pe'-
tered. Does not this directly argue that we nave
no right to frame Constitution Did not the gen.
tleman argue such view Of the case lhls was
false position. The gentleman could not sustain
himself The President Of the United states bIs
declared that the election of this Convention Is legal
He has determined that the Convention has right
10 make Constitution for Kansas. He Will man.
tain Us 10 it, He is opposed to this submission: lie
believes it 10 conspiracy to make this Slave State
He began to assail President buchanan Here
Mr. Jones rose aud said that he must correct his
colleague; that President Buchanan had assured
Gen. Frank Marshall, well known in this Territory,
that the Constitution framed by this Convention
would be received and should have his support,
whether it was submitted or mott Mr. Little ac-
cepted this explanation, and then he attacked Gov.
Walker and the politicians. All they wanted was
office. They did not sincerely care for the interests
Of the Pro-slaveTy party, but wanted to maneuver
the matter by policy, 50 that they would get beaten.
Look at the result OF the late election. Had they
not the best that their party would carry
that election if they went into it in that way And
where we're they nOw7 Why should they invite us
TO submit this Constitution to the people What
was this PROPOSAL 1t was said that we should be
sure, any how. He was net sure OF that. We
proposed submitting to a vote on the Slavery ques
tion and whether that vote would settle it or not If
he IN aooinsf Sayarv IL VyOuld he claimed
that we were beaten, ard it would work to the dis
advantage of the Pro Slavery party. 1t was said
tia the Democracy were true to the Pro-Slavery
party; he would now put them to the test. Ii 1T
was Dot submitted at all, in any shape, the South
would be cafe. He would call the yeas and nays
when the vote was TAKEN and note every man WAC
was true to the South.
(Mr Little, the speaker is the Oldest member Of
tbe Conventions man Of comparatively iter,te
character and strongly mbued with devotion to the
interests of Slavery. After his speech the Con
yenton sdjOurned)
NIGHT SESSION.
Mr.. Oden of Calhoun County rose lie said
that he bsd received letter from biz county sew.
eIal days ago. siened by eighteen persons. They
Instructed bin to vote for seadiDg the Constitution
straight to Congress, without sub hitting it, This
was in opposition to his We've, aud different from
what be would d. W len the election was held
last June, a gentleman came to his house aud
brought poll books and tickets with his name on
them. He refused to be candidate then.
He did not come to Kaosas to dabb.e in politics
He lad other business He sold dry g,od', run
saw mill, sold drugs, and had other business that re-
qurcd his time. AT that time they elected him In
opposition to his wishes, and he did not know he
was elected for Elk weeks after the election. He
did not consider himself bound by the instructions
of these men, They were but small part of Cal
hOun County, and, having been elected without
pledges he should act according TO the dictates OF
his own Judgment. Mr.. Oden was evidently plain,
illterate man, rather unsOphistcated, and seemed
to be quite obliyOus of the bogus character OF the
debate.
After his remarks several of the LecOmptOn
lac les entered. Mr.. Stuart then spoke He began
by speaking of his past position. lie had said that
he had always held that Slavery was not political
question. 1t was simply matter for the people to
settle by vote. He thinks that this Convention was
not elected on the Pro-SlaveIy issue They were
not elected to make Slavery Constitution, and
send it to Congress without submitting it to the PEG.
ple He said that he was elected an independent
PrO-Slavery man. He read from letter written by
him from Independence, IN reply to letter from
SINE LecomptOn men, before the June election.
The substance fthe letter and of some resolutions
be read, as passed at Lecompton: He was inter
rupted by Mr.. Little, who asked If the resolutions
passed in Douelas County were to be binding on the
Territory. (Here he went off at some length on
personal matters.) He repudates the idea that he,
OF others acting with him. were bought with price,
He does not think the of the Free State people
want to vote on the question, " Constitution or
"N0 Constitution merely want a vote on this
Slavery question He thinks there is no doubt that
this is the surest way Of making Kansas Slave
State He ia in favor of the pau submitted by the
majority.
Mr. Bait Jones (of Oxford said if it was Nation
al Democracy to defend Slavery where it was and
rh1erer it might go, he was National Democrat;
otherwise he is not. He has rights. by the Con-
stiiuton be has the right TO carry his slaves where
he pleases He demands his Constitutional rights.
His foTefsthers made a contract with the men OF
tie North and be demanded that their children
make coed the contract On this question of sub
mission he wonld say that other States went into
the Union without submission. Why not Kansas
An opportunity was given to all citizens. He denies
that any citizen OF Kansas was not registered.
Those who denied the validity of their laws are not
citizens. Those who sustained the validity of those
laws did participate in the elections of delegates to
Constitutional Convention. 10 sustaining any po-
sition Of submission they back down. They back
down from this strong position. III he had thought
that one man would submit any part of the Consti-
tuition to the whole people, he would never have
come to this Convention. These men have no right
to vote on the Constitution We may make. We
have sacrificed much Show him how to make
Kansas a Slave Estate and he will do 1t. lie has
worked bcfore he will ,cork again. We deprive no
man of his Constitutional right to make Kansas
Slave State. Make Kansas a Slave State, and you
restore the balance of power in the United States
Senate. You preserve the equilibrium Of the Gov
einment We might yet make Kansas a Slave
State we may be proud of. If We submit we kno,c
what will be the result, for we have tried it. lie.
us send it TO Congress, and if we cannot do that
let us break up in row and go home-that's my
ticket