New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-12-22


irdose every recommendation in tho PresidsLtd Mes
sage, and say that he il prepared to carry it out
Mr.. BlGLER replied that il not at all probable
that he agreed with every sentiment Of the President
lie bad no cesire to lay down rule by which the
Senator should be read out Of the patty.
MIR DOUGLAS wished to know if the Adminiitra-
ton did not regard as wanting in party featy tn ,se
who refused the Lecomptoo movement
MIR. BlGLER replied that he could not 60 any fur
ther into the subject. He had already endeavored to
express his views with all the cearness OF which he
was capable. Ii the Senator thought proper 70 assume
that this vas party measure, and that ne (Dousla9
out Of the party because he differed from tue Ad-
ministrstion, that h Douglas 81 own business.
ne BIger) bad lard down 70 such rule.
~ 6sIr. DOUGLAS replied that the Senator from Penn
,sssnig hio informed the Senate that ne had other
,ces Of info m siion in regard 10 the purposes OF
sh5 Administration in making this party measure.
He believed that The ,hs'ges that he (Douglas was
going over 10 the Black Republicans were made by
men hostile to him. and actually hostile to the AID minis
trstoa. They were from persons who desired to get
him into false position for uerior purposes. He did
not can that men, whose Claims TO the confidence Of
the Democrats patty were not superior TO his own
should read him out of the Democratic party. the
report is being circulated everywhe,e that the Pres
dent b prepared TO put tie knife to the hro It OF every
man who dsres 10 differ from the Administration aud
think for himself on this question. lis believed that
those who calculated such reports were enemies Of the
President He wished to give his friends an oppof
tunity Of denying the charge.
Mr. BIGLER-W 20 makes the charge?
Mr. DOUGLAS-Tne newspapers OF the country
are full of it, Tne Senator seemed to make his argu-
nent as If l were outside OF a healthy Democratic
organisation. do not rec gnze the right of taa!
Senator, or anybody en- esrrh TO expel me.
MIR. BlGLER-in DO shape or form have been Ia
boring to put the Senator outside the party. 1t s true
that old show That this question Of Slavery the
Ser asor did not slvays hNd tue same position but
did not cay that any Dan WHO Offered from the Ad-
minlstr n this subject WAS no Democrat.
Mr. DOUGLAS-I stated that wnen changed my
OPINION, changed il in correspondence with that OF
- 10th, fl.ae.v Lad
out Of the party il would leau out OF ii in very
good company. Lsughter. If the President aud
Democratic party stick 10 their platform we can move
along hsImohiousiy; but |, at all events will l''in
tain my position. shall tske all proper occasions to
vinoicate the great principle with which my public
lite is identified hope thz: in the Discussion of this
question Senators will st me alone as regards my coz
sntercy, and as for my prospects, let time deter
mine.
Mr. STUART obtained the floor, and the further
Consideration of the subject was postponed.
The Senate passed the House resolution proposing
10 pay the aiearagee of the pay OF members at the
commencement instead Of the end of the session.
$50 per month each during the session. Adjourned
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
The House resumed the consideration of the Treasu
~ Note bill.
Mr.. ABBOTT was altogether opposed to the bill,
because It was not necessary at the present tlme lie
was not IN favor OF converting the General Govern
ment into great National Bank for the purpose OF
circulating paper money 10 the extent of twenty mill
ons He would protect the national honor and credit,
but in the way eest Injurious to the people Such an
Issue as is proposed would piolopg and aggravae the
commercial enbsrrassmests; ana ae measure OF re-
lief be suggested the csatstnent of all Unnecessary
expenses and the sbOisa of snecures. The Tressu.
IN would thus be relieved to the extent of mofe than
$40 100000
Mr. LETCHER said Mr.. Abbott would find Demo-
Gratis willing to reduce the expenses of the Govern
ment where could be cone without prejudice to the
public interests. He proceeded to chow the pressing
itv hats efg Treasury
and mentioned that the Treasury was deprived of
about ten millions Of duties on forty or forty hve mil
lons Of gOocs in warehouse 10 the several cities
Mr.. BANKS, in reply TO one OF Mr. Letc1ei points,
sad that if the latter aud his friends would take the
negro question out Of Congress anu attend to the busl
ness CT white meu there would be no such surplus in the
Treasury as 10 1853 and 1854 Hetook issue with tee
President, denying that paper money prodsoed the
present financial disasters, aud expressing some views
on the question Of hard money:
Mr.. LETCHER va said that the gentleman
would soon be 10 the Governors chair OF Massachu-
setts and he should look with considersoe htefes'
to bis views on hard money. lie should expect MN
TO 90 to the very root ,,,
he he would cooria,e and recommend others to con.
trbute so far as was in bis power to effect radici re-
form in this matter. Ii air. Lstcher supposed that ne
should ask the bankers Of Massachusetts 10 re,Hcs
the issue of psper money be would be met WIZ .ae
renlv AS the General Government will not forego
the issue Of paper money thefe is no reason why We
"sboud do it, .. =.
make paper currency or that it established debt
IL converted the Government into bank, ul1sren'
note would be sounded the other side OF tue ball.
where il would meet with recommendation, whe the
Oemocraoy would be arayed against 1t.
Mr.. LOVEJOY ul said that this was deceptive
hill but he would not chsrscerize 1t as rauduea IN
tbe legal sense Of the term The bill proposed what
called loan, but in reality il designs converting tne
Coyern ent into great shnplaster machine, 10 MI
the country with irredeemable paper money, wnlcn
has always professe6ly been dlstastefu to the De-
mocrscy The generous soul of Democracy has lett
sbat CARCASS and has entered and now animates
the true Jeffersonisn Democracy the kePuoncsn
marty. He supposed tnat the plates for the treasury
NOES were aresdy prepared, with likeness OF the
President at one end and that OF the Secretary OF tne
Tfessury at the other with the motto, 20 me
"Sub-T easury, the Government has not failed.
Usugh'er He urged various objections against the
bill contending that there was no necessity lof ioau.
He wanted to build the Government on the roek oi
hard money or paper representing dollar for douei,
He wanted to know where the money was TO come
from, and whether any part OF Il was 70 % usSa 70
Kapsas ard the Lecompton Constitution at the point
of the bsyoDet
Mr. LETCHER inquired whether Mr.. Loveloy was
aware that the people of Kansas were TO vote 70 dsy
Therefore the money cou not be used for tnal pur
pore. ..,o 6, alovaa
sncb fantastic ricks' as made Heaven blush and the
o,her Mace rejoice. Laughter Tyrants always
wsnt money and he could only compare this Aauis-
sys,ion 10 that Of Philip IT, He charged on the Sham
Dsmocrscy, and warned the people OF the attempt
80 hi, o made by il to convert the country into
desnotsu and the Treasury Department INTO ear
Nnfior al Bark The President was Rraunaly shding
to IT, ard when he fully succeeds, the Democ'acy
viii swear tsst ,bAv a Esys favored Bank =,
Mr.. CAMPBELL (Ohio) intended 20 sappors Ing
,oessne With such mod6 ,stons and guards as should
.e 80, a II wo.lher in the form OF loan or