The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-07-30

Mr. NYs-Ya, sir.
The question vas taken, and the motion was lost there
being three ay es and three noes, o. fc''owr:-
Ayes- Nessrs Nye. B,wep and elsSnahan.
Noes--hessu. Wood, Powell and Cnowed
made the special order for Monday morning after oA'u
the rn
Mr. Bowxs-I would suggest whsther saturday would
not answe the purpose perhaps better, Uanuoh Is It l.
desirable tina there should he large regular forcs Of
police "a possible on duty on sunday.
Mr. NyEWe have a specal orde Saturday 70 OIL the
vscaps ~ 'ssioned by Mr. Drapes's rssigusuoa
NJ BowsN- That !, for Ia o'ci CT. rns be
dhposeo OF before that hour move to amend by sub
stnns Saturday for Monday 20 has the froe may DO
The question hcns the Amendment, Mr. CtoIwrlI
sat The idta Of meeting at 10 and gurg TN the special
order at i2l We will not get 'hrousn ,ili oclo7k
Mr. BowE TO Mr. Cboxe')-You are pad s. day
Tor our attendance, and the state 90 tiled ser
Mr. CHoIwnI-I know that, but n we would meet at
o'oocs-
rbe CH.mAA. cuterruptlns)- is no. the question
The question wa, taken on Mr Bowens amend nenr
making The Thirteenth ward appointments no spoctl
DER Tor saturday, and Was rejected Ayes 3, nos
Ays-Meprs Nye, Bowen and srsuaeau rha que,
ton REQUIRED Nj Powel's vodon skps the ecia
order for Monday twas also ios, A,esa nays, g. "a
follows
Ayes-Mesus Powell, 20 ven and Chol yell
Neighbours Nye, Wood and s,-aranAn.
Il win be seea that on Ihts vo's aesrs. Bowen and
Wood chsnseo their respective positions
The mat e' remains BET re the ard for action.
PAYMENT OF sPAlsL PATRo,MEs
Nr BowES-i move resodtion providing Tor NE pay
inert Ct the usual per diem ao ten orary patrol
Mr.. WooD-y,u the special menu
Mr. BowsS-Yes, sir; some of them are no serving 10
the Thuteenh ward
NJ NYE-I wi, state for infor nation Of the ard
hat the subject referred legs,
Of their appoin he.srs. Field and Noyes acung
counsel for the Board have given their opinion the
nea.rrer Ia authorized 10 pay them.
Mr.. WooD-h you'd sraufy to hear thu, section OF
the aw read wniah authorized their employ meat orr
The Clerk read secon to the eec, that in oases Of
emergency the ard may appoint Special policemen NTH
Mr. wooD-I lis conoedei 1r Chairman. hat taese men
ba Q been emo'o. 90, and employ ed presume BY The
g Of The board ask fo' Information ~ 10 tast
M. AYE (potdirg siirmAasey)-Yas, sir
Mr. wOoD- These men having been employed by .
vote OF me board me, have 30 Tar as sno@ dscosrgea
their duties faithfully. believe they good and
fully entitled tn ensaion fr the tusy have per-
formed Bot desire TO ak wheses these men we're
told 81 the time they were employed toAs under the law
they To without pay
Mr. N.Y. Not that an ware or
Mr. wooD-rnen, Fir, the difficulty sus gesta itself 10
whether while admitting that these should be paid
and while rete'atipg my firm belief has they entitled
N pay they to DO paid ny the part sho employed
tcm, or by the Corpo alton Of the cily of New York
rpe question neither the Boar does per
sonal La iy for any moneys d,barsa In direct and
papsble violation of tie very letter Of the Lag lsse,
mich expressly Geclares tina. tho authority Board
TO employ special policemen without pay tbs question
trorbes me how far making orssve' personally
and svey ssyr 30 are 90 o di.o rse for ihs, paf
pose r,iood the Chair 70 say that the Board has
taken sovice on this pO'It Who did the UnAir say bad
been c-bsuited?
Mr.. NY.-Nes,rs. Field and Noyee.
Mr. Won Il should like Ia have their ap.nicas read.
ho Board that this subsct has not been acted unsd
.ee iy There are several provisions OF the lav that
sfs5 on 'S bs ss
a.i read that the fund appropriated to support the
regular force should DO! be inriuged upon any for
the purpose OF paying special police who should be
called In Of emergencies. was intended
that the appropriation made by the SUPERVISORS
annually AM should 60 70 the purpose s sd
in view Of the proven, fund nav 70 be used
the law going the hypothesis that there is to be
tain humber OF pAromen des mated the force exung
at The time the Board creaed and that the fund dq
Gated TO that pur should 10 pay taa force Tat
dsbsnded An emergency arose which ieopar izcd the
pssc. OF he city. rhe BNd then In the ex Of ia
pe~es under that snooosed these men as temporary
pauomen. fer the pu-roe of SUPP lying the
cssoped by the is andg Of the old Tor and to
the safety Of the prooert and persons OF the citizens
They tsand, therefore the regular force. Temporarily
employed and their payment makes Infringement
all the funds appropriated for police purposes the
5oard ost as les A. the enegences O. the cae
required They ali and therefore, parolmen,
performing he duties OF thoee ersons which the funo
deacaud 70 pay That Ia the opinion Of the Counsel
and In which member OF the Board, mot fully
cur ser careful examination OF the iaw In regard TO
It. rne members OF the old force a,eented themselves
from that duty and therefore their place WAS led mere
y temporarily That II the position In which tbs matter
ada Arc With due eference 10 the opinion suggested
by the Mayor think that only the letter but the sp,
~ Of the lac clearly authorizes their pAymeat such 10
oomnssiopers and, word these are The reasons thai
hav. been given
Mr. woor- with th. explanation and having no doub,
that the Board ted under Of their blty,
withdrsv, so far 10 am personally concerned any 90
lection 10 the ray nrps Of these meu
The CHAIsxAS-rbsn the question will be on the motion
o. Mr. Do~,n. thai the Treasurer he authorized 10 pay
these Temporary paoen her per dem for The services
Mr. BowES-Do unders.aus that thai has the sanction
OF The hsywi
M wcop- Undot o,ediy. I would ash, however, be
fore The ques TAKEN whether there are any Of those
men Dow employedf
Mr. BowN-fhere are, In the Thirteenth ward
Mr. Wcop- Then deeire 10 stsi. most DISTINCTLY that -
far ~ the future n concerned, have legal rig At In
my judgment 70 employ thsm' but ne these mcu have
pay from The oorauon think best thu, they should
be paid Az 10 the future, hold the question IN reserve
Mr. BOWS am entirely with the Mayor on that point
am most socous therefore, fJr the dsbsndmsnt of the
special free, and because 80 snxious for the
immediate swearing 10 OF the force In tbs Thirteenth ward
that the special might be disbsnded. no a,
therefore toat t,e BaTd Oil zee the propriety OF recon
siderrg ust subjec-
sr. woob--tet US take The question on ,his.
The question ~As taken and The resolution unnni.
monty Gey,od.
so i6c Treasurer Authorized pay the special pa
uomen.
COMPLAINTS AeASs1 cATrAIS CARPENTER AID orrssS
The CHAIRMAN laid before the y ard oompla1t against
Deputy Superintendent CAs nier Tor using unbeooniog
ia guafe towards Of the 90 Esyor Wood
(rte papers have been heretofore Published in the lis
RtiD
Mr.. BOrEy moved It's reference 10 the Committee 90
General Dscirue.
The cHArsxAShe usual prac,ce hes been 70 refer al
lhcse oompsibu 10 the Commit General Discipline:
and they gill be 90 referred, matter Of course, uasss
objection be made.
Tie complaint wss 40 referred: and, thereupou,
Mr. BovtS, FROM the Committee General Discipline,
reported hat Tho racers foGnd correct and thai
The be notified that Trial will be had Friday,
ct IL o'coct.
TIE report was adopted.
The CH.RNAs al laid before the Board complaint OF
Captain Tuspbul, Of the rhh precinct, against several
memberp o. force, which also referred 10 The
Com mites Geser. Discipline.
Mr.. BDwks, from thS com m'tlce. reported back The
complaint with nebdai,C that the Trial be Get
down for Friday, Immediately Afscr that Of Mr. Oar.
pea,er.
Tho report adopted
Tie CHAIRMAN also laid bc'ove the Board q oompls nj
sgsnt JIo Foster, Of tee old Brooklyn police,
tie charge Of iEoxca 3on and neglect ~ duty.
Mr.. YoVnI-O O general thing, Mr.. Foster IL
spectacle 10 you knoS, M. .superinposdebt lad
dressing Mr. FOLK whether be b guilty u This orens 20
Of .cn1
Mr. ToiK-rhst 10 90, DIR.
Ne. wouIs-I would remark, Mr.. Chairman, that the
law throws be force great many righs ~hicn