New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-07-30


mace By lie Government VI tbe Uo ted btats 70 her
Msjesiys Government ~ the effect that they would
not slpect any apsvsT 70 the Communication ID qnes-
ton and that In point Ut iac b,y desired the matter
to be cousioer. suspended. Under these crcnm.
stances be trusted his bOn friend would see that Ii
would not be oe,irsble TO lay before P.Iamen. tho
con d. uLcation mace by he last Government OF 'bs
Ubifso States Of the views they entertained Of the
qutstiOb under the cVnsideIation Of the House
H.sr, hear At all events, III that state vi things 10
LId Pslm-rftob should certainly not think 1t neces-
saD 10 enter INTO an examination OF the reasons ioT
aid against The proposition made by the Govern
mept Of me U,i;ed States. Blu; there was one
topic 10 which his hon freud had adverfed, ana ~
rei,reIce 70 watch he must make one remark
There was no very decided rlle IN regard 70 tae
prnccc pur u, OIL aLd our ng var with regard 10 e
tn atmelt OF the prOp.r'y of private individuals In
hostile equity That practice had va.led very nach
lin 10 time, and IN different Countries. IL was
very difficult, III fact 10 estatth any rue IN regard
10 The uCde Of oeanDg With private property on shore
upder such circumstances which would not apply at
once 10 private property on the ocean But that "@'
Que,tiun which could Dot be discussed properly on
motion Of this kind bear, kear and ne trusted aitei
the e,pl.l alton lie had given bis honorable friend
uld rot press BIS motion for documents Of part OF
which her Majestys Government were not officially IN
possersioh and tie ing port Of which, Tor the
r. lie had assigned they did not deem u expedien'
to give Hear, hear
Hr. B.it:nck expressed general concurrence in The
views ., ol ouDded by the honorable gentleman the
member Tor IynemOutb On the inject under consldeIa
tioD regretted that the noble lOfG al tae heal u the
poyerlm 1t lad Lot touched the most important part
Of the question: and copiendeu that the declaration of
the Pam Congress if caied uut III time Of war, @oud
be raught with the greatest jury 10 The nava! and
InelcaIto interests Of tb- county, and must eventu-
ally enc IN desrroyiug is maritime supremacy.
Lord j. Russell SAID: l do not wonder that the
Government 90 lot agree to the motion IL appears
II at The paper which moved for is not in the posses
sion Of the Government But certainly the question
raised il one Of the utmost importance The mora
BE gentleman says that 10 the event Of war all the
lOoCs sent III ships under convoy will require 1--WE per
cont and i'll ships not under convoy t@n per cent addl-
tioDsl premium. The honorable gentleman has natu-
rally aigueo that with such additional payments the
manufacturers Of this c0uLy vlll send their goods in
peLtra ships and thus the maritime trade Of this cDun
ry WILL in fact. be Destroyed. really should like b.
leoI statement upon the part "fthe Government Of
the grounds ofthe entering into this declaration Hear
h.aI. Iappear-d 10 me that wheD%e we're engaged IN
conjunction with France, in war with Russia We
c, did hardly do otherwise than carry the war upon
The same principle France. The principle adopted
dung the that free ships cover free goods
But at the end of the War were not under the ne-
ctsty Ct making any concession OF the opposite prln-
cipe, which certainly i'll conformity with the law
Of Nations, and 70 which ibs country had hitherto ad
beied. There was 10 notice given to the people OF
this country 10 either House Of Parliament that any
such question should be discussed Cheers We ell
supposed Il OF Lord Clarendon went 10 Pdris with
view 10 axe peace with Russia But with resp ct 20
question OF maritime right there preparation in
'he public mid aid tie people Of this country must
have been surprised that 1t introduced. hardly
think toe Government could consent to abrOgatc,
the honorable gentleman proposes declaration winch
was sOemlly agreed ~ by their pebpOtrniiary. l
SIN afraid that must be bound by the declaration
am afraid that tie consequences are so serious as to
show that such DECLARATION was very impIudeo ana
cannot but agree with the honorable gentleman that
England ought 10 preserve her maritime superiority.
The comparison between private property in ships end
private pr, perry land Is Lot tenabe do not think
there any real comparison between them. 1t Is quite
fhy hNf n li,-Tp "A
its produce in the middle Of France Or State of Virginia
has placed his property i'll qui different situation
from manufacturer who has put his goods on board
a large feet in the British Chaunel, nsyi-
gated by 1900 or 5000 mariners competent to
man feet agaiIst this couutry There is no com
parisOD between the two propositions, al d therefore
cannot but think that, Ill point of iiDcple, the
declaIutiOn Of Paris ought TO be altered C0eersl.
The whole matter is most unsatisfactory aud most
grave in its be ariDg upon our maritime supremacy |
quite agree that the way IL witch We have been G5lo
10 finish wa,s with great Powers, especially with
France, has chiefly been by destroying the encuy's
trade. We have brought the Powers with which we
have been ut 10 such state that their finances
have become disordored. They have then bo ready
been terminated. But now ii we Were at war with
America or France they oOad maintaa ther trase in
full vigor because manufactured produce through
out the world could be sent in neutral vessels in per-
fec safety. They would have no reason fol- making
peace. They would Lot be distressed. We might
gain naval victories, but would not pro-
duCe peace. We might dive all their vessels Oi war
on the seas but We should 10; thereby gain the end
Oi oil war; which is honorable peace. The state Of
II is Quetticn is TO very aasmlng but do not see
that breach OF faith would at all mend our position
ICheeisl.
Mr.. Lindsay explained that he had not said that VIC
should rot abide 10y the declaration. What he fad
WAS, that we had made declaration which, by losing
us the carrying trade in time of war, would reduce
England 10 q sixth rate Power. In the event of
with great maritime Power he was convinced that
the country would appeal the House, and the House
lie would lot press his motion TO division.
The question having been put that the motion be
Withdrawn,
Sir c. Napier said be had expected that some mem
Der of the Govefnnent-the Fret Lord If the Ad.
miraly-would have addressed the House after the
speech Of the noble lord the member for the City Of
London. He agreed with the honorable gentleman
who brought forward the motion that was impossible
we could remain in tie position in which we were at
proeent The noble lord said We could not break the
engagement. lie did not think could. Diplomacy
had drawn into very mpOtic engagement,
and il was for the noble lord or clever dpomstst
to get Us out Of 1t [Cheers. If The declaration
NAMED and war eBsued we must blockade every
port which the enc ny possessed Ii must be not a
mere paper but efficient blockade, and in the event
OF war with France such blockade, with the navy
We Possessed, could not at the first start be estab
lished. Double " treble our navy would not be suf
ficeDt 10 blockade all the ports of France, and it
must not DO forgotten that seanen discharged from
French merchant vessels would 60 into French ships
Of war and increase their force, while our force in
men would DO dialu;ssed in consequence Of our loss
Of trade Hear, hearl.
The COtion was the. Withdrawn:
THE AFRICAN SLAVE TRADE.
+, ,be Uouse of Commons on the lith inst, Mr.. G..