The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-02-20


By Mr. Ritchie-nd you, the agent Of any company,
or IN any 'ther capacity execute any bond oher
eolssnon 70 convey land or any other valuable oonsi
deranon, 70 any person or persons, on condition that
any railroad bill passed., or pending In this Oongress
thoud pass. which bond or obligation held
sSseS WIN TIE p'v.y or knowledge OF any member Of
Win ess-l consider the question relating 10 personal
matter simsr to the orc have ALREADY destined 10 an
swer and deoline to answer IT,
By Ar. Richie Did GU as tho agent Of any company
or In any other capacity ever execute any bond or other
obligation 70 convey land any other valuable oonsde
ration, 70 any person persons condition that any
railroad bill passed pending in this Congress shoud
pass, In which bond ov obligation any member Of this
Congress had or has IN interest," direct or indireor
Whness-I did not
By Mr. M.oDe-nd you, - the agent Of any company
or In any other capacity bond or other
obligation 70 convey land, or any other vslusole ooosi
any person or persons on condition that any
pass, with the know edge Of any member Of Congress,
upon which The vote OF any member having such know
ledge was TO depend2
witness-I did Dot.
BY Mr. Richie Did You, tho agent OF any company
or IN any oho' capacity ever execute any bond Or other
obligation 10 convey land or any other valuable con
ssdersion 70 any person or persons on condition that
any railroad bill passed. Q, pending in this Congress:
should pass and upon which the Of any member OF
o<nsress was to depend
WnDess-i old not.
with any member Of Congress in which he admitted 70
you that be had any present interest any peotan,
interest in the pa SAGE Of any bill which had been or Is
now pending before Copgr,ss?
TAIiuDA DEAL MEBxRs CONGRESS
Witness 90 no, know; win no, 20, that nave and
VIII rot say that have NOT have talked good deal
with some members Of Congress- aud will not say that
bsve no. had some such conversation, though do not
nov call Il to mind
By M w.n,r-what Is the bes, Of your recollection
upon that point
wpness-I cannot now refer to any such conversation
that have had, and stih will NOT say that may no,
nave had such conversation.
By Mr. warper-HAvsyyou no recollection in regard to
wi,ness-Tbat Will dspend . good deal on ctcum
stances. There are lo many public measures which
tote nf0s he 6oo
By Mr. Warner Have ysa ever heard any member Of
With him say you that he had any pecun,ary interest
or any other 10 eres OF vacabe character embracns
other bin hal hes been psnding or peoding in the
present Congress?
Witress-1 do not recoect any particular Time Will
not say that have no, had 'uch because
have had . good deal NJ talk with members.
By the Chairman Can you ieoolect no such oonversa
WitIesl DO not just at this time. have heard them
say their vicinity would be benefited.
By M Warner-wnl you say that you have not had
sucn Conversation
wi,ness-l do NO. know tina, have not had.
By M. Wnper- Have you had such conversations with
many members; and 20, how many?
Wiipess-l cannot tell
witDen-I cannot specify any number; nv memory
will not se,e me 10 recoect such ca'ual Conversations
MEMORY GOOD IN nGARD TO RAILROAD BILLS
By Mr. warner-8sv you had any conversations with
members With reference TO the passage OF these railroad
bileY
By NJ warner-will you der lare IL from your own
kpowedse ,hst you DO not Know, from your converse.
'ions with mepbc's ua, any one member 10 Interested
in the passage Of any ono Of these bilS
whness-l would not say that. do not want 70 say
anything IN reference 10 that
By NJ. wsrner-rhe question u not what you want 70
whnsm-No member ever tod me tina, hc was directly
Interested In any Of these bills. that recollcct
MEMORY FArIT AGAH.
By Mr.. wArrer-Have you ever heard any member
number Of acres sections Of land certain OF Ihese
bills psseol
By M wArner-Have you heard any member say,
during the prtsent Congress- that he hsd other int
rat In he passage Of any blu tsn general ioterest,
such would arse from the value Of property
The state reighoorhood where the railroad passed,
to wi icn tho bill referredi
Wnref-I have not.
By Mr.. Warner Save you ever heard . member o.
CoSse:s say during The presen, the. any third
ppon held an obligation by which II any one OF these
bits passed, he Vas 10 be bepefnedf
wiineas-No, sir.
By Mr.. warner Have you ever held any such obiga
toa at The irsispce Of member oil CopgrcssY
Wftnsss--No, sir.
ny Nj. w.rner-po you kn,w Of any body who has'
Wrne,s-l DO not
WHAT IS A PERSONAL NTxKnn A RAILROAD BuI'
By M ORR unoestapd you to ssy that the benefit or
them fron the passage Of bulls, only
that interest which common 10 the COMMUNICATED
,v.on. interest Of their Own, Independent Of the gene
wiuese--l do no. under.tAni shat would bes per.
scral interest
By Mr. Rtchis-An interest that would accrue 70 the
member himself independent OF general interest
witness-I Go not know Of any sucn instance. There
may be suoh instances, but do not know Of any, OF my
owl knowledge.
aSouANr ANY o's uDrroRs, HsPoRTsas Erc
By Mr.. wArner-Do you know OF an member OF Goa
per reporter he would advo ate the passage Of
certain bills be thouid receive Q compensation
wtness-t do not OF my 90 n knowledge have beard
reports but no, kro~ whether they are true or
BY Mr.. ou-Have you ever heard member of Con-
wi,pes,-I do not reooIeci that have.
BY Mr.. wsrner-Hsve you ever been present whom .
demand Was made upon any member or memecrs OF
Congress by third party, not . member OF C,ngress
tor compensation for advocating the passage Of any bill
wlire,s-I do not know ibs, have
BY M wsrp.r-Hsve you ever heard member OF
Con sress say that such demand had seen made upon
kimf
TIE WINES BEARD a GRIAr MANY sroRIss.
witper-I have heard great many stories.
Dy Mr.. Hr-rhai 10 very indehni'c.
winess-l cannot come any nearer 10 H.
by Mr Warner have you ever heard . member Of
trim pending before Congress pAred, be should
wirner,~l esuro, reoolkct / could no, say whether
By Mr. wnner-wha, the best Of your recollection
sE,ur mapp or A Gao or oosRurnos.
wrbe0-I have o instance Of the kind nos upon
b, MI wsrner-Jus. extend your recollection back,
and " GU canno, brlnr II 70 mind.
wnpen-I csnpo, recolleos Of any time.
b. Mr warner--Have you heard II ~ any time
Wttnu-I co not recolloci any instance; stu there
NAV have been. cannot say.
Bynr Or-no yod kno~ or have you heard any
member Of that be owned stocss IN any Of
the railroad bills OF the last session
wnntu-I did not hear o, any such cases, the, 70
collect
TEE IOWA wfsooSsrv AND MICHIGAN soAns
BY Mr. Orr-Do you Know OF any member Of Congress
Who ed stock any Of the projected rods IN Iowa
wsocbsin Michigan, whom you have heard express
the OPINION before bill passed. that NE STATE would
give and 70 company which he interested
wInen--No, air.
BY Mr. Orr-You know then, OF no member VINO 70
ceiveo ncses Of stock In Of tnese rosds
durirs the last sesson Of Oopercssi
wtnest-I 90 rot
KNOWS NOTHING THs PACIFIC RAILROAD on o. THs
60. otO
BIZ Mr. Orr-None In Wisconsin,, lovs or Michigan
wrness-I DO not
By M orr-Do you any tbus OF 500 ooo acres OF
snd having been set apart By parties Interested IN the
Ps-hc fanosd 10 secure ns psssaSei
Xltusss-I do not.