Holmes County Republican. [volume] (Millersburg, Holmes County, Ohio) 1856-1865, 1857-12-31

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interfered in the slightest degree, except in
pursuance of these instruction He never
supposed that the agent was to be denoun-
ced for obeying instructions, and the prin-
cipal applauded for giving them.
He admired the manliness of the Presi-
dent in assuming the responsibility to give
them, and only regretted that the President
proposed from motives ofexpediency, TO ac-
cept the constitution without ratification by
the people, although he admitted it ought
to be submitted. If it is right to submit
let it be submitted. Let policy and ex-
pediency take care of themselves. He com
planned that the Senator from Pa, seemed
dispoced to put him in false post on
The only true way Of ascertaining whether
Constitution is acceptable or not, is to sub
NIT it to the people,
MIR. Bigler explained that he did not say
that Mr.. Douglas maintained the ground
that an enabling act was necessary in all
cases, but that he had taken the ground
that it was necessary in the case of Kansas.
The Senator has disposed of his own argu-
ment by saying that he was not always con-
sistent, and that wise man will al
ways change his views whenever he thinks
himself wrong.
Mr.. Douglas wanted to know by what
authority Mr.. Bigler said the Lecompton
movement was an Administration measure.
The message does not say so, had he any
higher authority than that?
Mr.. Bigler replied that he had made the
deduction from the message, and from
what he knew in addition. He did not as
sert in terms that it was an administra-
ton measure, but said the administration
held the movement legal, so far as it has
progressed. How could the President make
recommendation prior to the result of
the vote, which, he says in his message, he
is waiting for?
Mr.. Douglas replied that he should like
to know what other sources of information
Mr.. Bigler had as to Mr. Buchanan's opin-l
ions, as that Senator mad that much adyan--
tage of him.
MIR. Bigler was not at liberty to say that
this was an administration measure, and
would allow Mr.. Douglas to define what it
was.
Mr.. Douglas again wanted to know what
these other sources of information were
which authorized Mr.. Bigler to read him
out of the party for not sustaining that
measure.
Mr.. Bigler denied that he said one word
about reading any man out of the party
Did Mr.. Douglas mean to make no issue
with the Administration-when he makes
an issue can't he tell what it is? 1
Mr.. Douglas.-The Senator did not use
the words, but he insinuated strongly to
that effect, he seemed to be carrying out
the system which had been pursued by ev-
cry pensioned letter-writer, for the last few
weeks, intimating that he (Douglas) had
deserted the Democratic party and passed
to the Republicans.
MI Bigler.-I deny any such accusation.
l said the Senator's position had excited
the momentary qualification on the other
side of the Chamber, and regret on this.
Mr.. Douglas replied he had been denoun-
ced by men who were willing to sink the
Administration, for the purpose of killing
off Northern men. That every press which
can be controlled, is thus controlled, unde-
niable. That nineteen-twentieths ofthe in
dependent press, those that do not depend
on the Government for support, are with him
in sustaining the creed of the Democratic
party and the Cincinnati platform. But the
few who are not allowed to speak for
themselves, are endeavoring to drive him
where they could not drive him-to de-
sert the principles averred and maintained
by the Democratic party. He wanted to
know whether every man is to be driven out
of the party because he does not coincide
with the President on the the question of
the Pacific Railroad and bankrupt law as
applied to Banks.
Mr.. Douglas resumed-Then, if every
one of the gentlemen around him were at
Liberty thus to dissent from the President
on the bankrupt law, Pacific railroad, tar
iff, and other measures, was not he (D.) |
to be judge for himself on the subject of
the Lecompton movement? He did not |
understand the extraordinary desire TO
strike blow which would either cripple |
him or drive him out of the party, or make
the country believe he had left the party.
Would the Senator from Pennsylvania
endorse every recommendation in the Pres
ident's message, and say he is prepared to
carry it out?
Mr.. B. replied that it was not at all
probable that he agreed with every senti-
ment of the President. He had no desire
to lay down a rule by which the Senator
should be read out of the party.
Mr.. D:wished TO know if the administra-
ton did not regard as wanting in party
feeling those who refused the Lecompton
movement,
Mr.. B. replied that he could not 90 any
farther into the subject, he had already en-
deavored to express his views with all the
clearness of which he was capable. If the
Senator thought proper to assume that this
was a party measure, and that he (D.) was
out of the party because he differed with
the administration, that was his (D.'s) own
business. He (B. had laid down no such
rule.
Mr.. Douglas replied that the Senator
from Pennsylvania informed the Senate he
had other sources of information in regard
to the purposes of the administration in
making this party measure. He believ-
ed that the charges that he (D.) was going
over to the black Republicans, were made
by men hostile to him and actually hostile
to the Administration. They were from