Indiana American. [volume] (Brookville, Ind.) 1833-1861, 1857-12-25

srs YOU going 70 gain by IL VIII you
s,.ts;n The marty by violating It's princi-
80 Do YOU propose 20 keep the party
rn;sed by forcing division ? Stand by
she doctrine that leaves the people per-
f~cslx free 10 form and regulate their insti-
lions for their selves In their own way,
"a vour Marty will DO united and irresist'
;h1e n powcr' Abandon that great prin- |
cipls. and the party i not worth saving
ana can not be saved, after u shall % sio-
lated. TRUST we shall not be rushed up
an this question. Why shall u Dc done
Who i 70 be- bsnehtcd Is the South 70
!. n. the gamer 2 Ia the North to be the
e.;nsr Neither the North nor the
f.outh has a right 10 gain sectional
:, I'd vssuge BY trickery or fraud
- nksrSrnESr or DOUGLAS.
But / did not rise for the purpose Of
controverting these questions. l was
I roine to say word or two 70 the Sena-
tor from Pennsylvania. He assumed an
!. air IN the opening Of this discussion that
/ thought Was entirely uncalied for, as u
he wished rather 70 intimate 10 the Sena-
tor from Illinois that his bearing ives not
exactlv rieht--an intimation OF speaking
by authority not authorized and not re-
M. BrcLxn-Mr. President, beg to
nav 10 the Senator from Illinois that in
not one word that uttered did intend
the slightest disrsspect of that sort, nor do
I. I x,,.h the Senator from Illinois To mark
me a. speaking here except Tor myself.
/ express on this subject the views which
have deliberately made up. They con-
cur generally, II not entirely, with those
expressed by the President OF the United
States.
- Ma. DouoLAs-I have not another
= word TO say on the point on which was
speaking. The explanation Of the Sena-
Tor nom sPcnnsylvania is conclusive on
tbas point. IL may be that | misunder-
stood the manner IN which he treated the
subject; but whether | did or not, his
:. statement Is conclusive with me. | was
certain he did not speak for the President
OF the United States, knew that; for
the President had Just spoken for him
self in language which condemned that
convention Tor not submitting the consti-
tuition 70 the people, and he refuses 10 re-
commend that we should receive the con-
stitutlon. The absence OF q recommend
ation clearly shows that il Is not an Adj
ministration measure
LITTLE DUG cARyEs OLD BUCK.
Certainly the President is not going TO
have. as an Administration measure here,
ono 10 which he has not committed him.
self and his Cabinet. The President oil
the United States is a bold, frank, man,
and II he intends 10 give US an Admins
trstion measure, he will say SO in so many
words. de has not said 50. IL Is not re-
spsctful to him 10 assume that he want
IA 10 do thai which ne was not willing u
/. recommend Us " do IN MS annual mes
sa-e. when acting under the authority u
m. Constitution, which makes II hls dut,
10 recommend the measures winch thu
public good requires. Hence, vi course
/ knew the Senator did not speak by au
thority, and was going " deny mis- RICH
10 do so: but inasmucn as l misunderstood
hun. have no comments 70 make.
MIR. BroLER-Will the Senator permi
me momentf
Mn. DoUoLAs-Certainly.
Mn. BIoLER.--I thmk / am very sal
in saylng--and l believe that the Senate
from Illinois will agree with me-tha
the President OF the United States up
holds the doctrlne ia MS message that tina
Convention had right ~ iorm Consul
tuition; it mad a ngnt " submit II 10 IN
people VI the Territory Tor their approva
or send II here Tor the appreciation vi Col
xress aud tne admission VI the State inl
tue Union. think II Is very clearly &c
ducIDlo from the message IN addition, tina
the President OF tue United States doe
not sunk tne ,rc.,G,pIances OF not sui
>>--s-.szS tzzs DA------NeA to-e-vcr
81 ths people snv1ia Keep hansas Out
tne Union II ner CONSTITUTION h kepubl
eau anu right IN all Vlner rcspec1s. Y
mat point Nc viii agree. Win that
understand the Senator lrVm ILLINOIS
take issue. =
Mn. DoueLAs--r infer from the me
sage that the President Of the Unite
States does hold that that Convention la
right to frame Constitution and SEE
II up here but that was under the rig
10 petition for the redress Of grievance
under the Constitution Of the Unite
States, and not because the Legislature
the Territory had the power TO constitu
that a legal Constitutional Convention.
Mn. BIeLRR-Where do you find tina
Mr.. DouaLAs-Y esterday speech W
read to this body, showing that the Pres
dent had held that doctrine twenty yea
ago. and he had never disavowed IL sine
In tnat speeci, the President declar
that Territorial Legislature had no pow
20 create a Convention 10 form Constit
ton; and that. II they attempted 70 exc
else such power. IL would be an act
usurpation-a high crime-a crime su
iect TO impeachment The President
held these doctrines for twenty years.
held them at the same time Genel
Jacksop's Administration held them in |
gard TO The Arkansas case. The DemocrI
Il party has held them ever since. ha
proved to-day that the Democratic part
80 far as II Is bound by our action o
year and half ago, asserted the sar
doctrine in the Kansas report which
made from the Committee on the Ter
tories. firmly believed then, that h
committee was faithful exponent Of {
views of the Kansas n ebraska party.
that report, we set forth that doctriI
and. as the Senator well knows, we pu
lished and circulated during the campaie
in order TO elect Mr.. Buchanan, three hu
dred thousand copies Of that report as
party document paid for one hundr
thousand copies Of them myself. Ine'
heard IL intimated that the doctrine tn
expounded. and on which the Preside
was elected, was repudiated by any p'
ton of the party, and therefore said Ii
the President of the United States "
with me ON this question, so far as
record shows.
Mn. BIeLER-I must enter my prot,
and claim the benefit Of the statute
limitations. which is applicable to a short
period than twenty years. | cannot CO
sent that the Senator from Illi..ois sh
hold the President TO principles which
may have laid down twenty years a:
under entirely different circumstanC
from those which now exist. Il isr
half so long since the President of I
United States declared that the Nilsson
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