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The weekly north Iowa times. [volume] (McGregor, Iowa) 1857-1867, 1857-11-11
ROBBERY At GurrENnnRu-The

ROBBERY AT GurrENBuRn.-Th
American House at Guttcnburgh was
entered on the night of October 29th,
about twelve O'Clock, and the inmates
OF one chamber, being five persons, were
dosed with chlorofo.m, the room ran.
sacked, and the clothes Of the slcepers
taken out into the street; these, after
being robbed Of everything valuable.
were left strewn along the sidewalk.
The losses, as far rs known, are as fol-
lows: w. Cook-:heavy diamond ring,
taken from his finger. worth $3.50 ;cer-
tificate Of deposit, given by Swift, Bro.
y Johnson, Chicago, $3.50 watch $50.
F. Hamerle-watch S25, and IS in
money. Chas II. Blair. postmaster of
this city. $50 in specie. No trace could
be found If the villains, though two per-
sons were searched. No other efforts
were made to detect the thieves, es,-Zeod=
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From The N. Y. Sunday Tines.
THE DISBANDED VOLUNTEER,

He pitches into the hoops, and the
unaccommodating portion of their wear
ers, with more earnestness than some
chivalrous-minded persons will be likely
to approve. We cannot say much for
the gallantry of his letter; yet few of
our male readers will fail to remember
among the circles of their female ac-
quaintance, some who come within The
pale Of our correspondence centuries.
SAINT N.cxALAs HorrEl, Oct. 29, 1857.
Eddyturs Of the Sunday Times:
l don't know wether yove obsaryed it
or not, but it sartin fack that the fe-
male sect hes becum mutch more cxac-
tin and onackomerdatin sense the inter.
duckshin of hoop. In the slap-sided
age, when thar was oney four bred,hs
to skeart, and no at.emps was made
to emmylate the Hottentot Venus, ladies
was in the habbit of acknowledging emmy
little attenshin from the panterloon
secshin of sosity with smile and a
curtsny as ballanst the ackount on the
spot; but now, when it takes fourteen
yards of silk and twelve of steel to dress
and cooper wun of the fair critters from
the waist to the sidewalk, they act Jest
as eff ''size was the meshur Of power" 7"
as the fleenologists say. Married men
complale that the capreeces Of thar
wives he's increast with thar sirkumfe-
rences; AID the bachelors and widder-
ers allow that the young wimmin and
widders is gettin more'n more puff up
evry day. Wun thing is ondeniabul ::
evry lady expecks two seats-wun for
herself aud anuther for her dry goods
and lite hardware, in eny car or stage,
no matter how menny Of the broadcloth
sect may hev to stand, or how sick, old.
lame or tired they may be. Even little
crlnoleens, nine or ten years of age, will
croud out full-groan man Of fammaly
without the slightest compunkshin. Fl
tho fare oppfossers Hou.d oasy si,npcl
and say "Thsnk you, sir !" it mough,
afford sum sollis to the victims Of per.
liteness ; but insted of that, when a lady
has stared a man out Of his sete, as q
snake fassinates bird outer its nest
she fixes her eyes on vacansy, and
lounces inter his berth as eff she was q
kwcen as he'd just expelled wicked
usupper, and was takin pcrsesshin o
her riteful throne. Setch is my devo
shin to the pettycotes, howsever, that
could pass by all this over-uppishness
in silence, eff they diddent acktilly spred
tharselves on the setes for the express
purpus Of blutfen off emmy ventersun
pair Of trowses that happens to get in
Ef this is not ingratitood, then to retur.
evil for good is fare bizness transack
shin. and ths copperhed as bit the gen
t'man as thawed him out was noble
spessyment Of good Sammarytan.-
What adds to the turpentine of the Of
fence, is the tack that the male sect hes
10 foot the bills for the enormous noun
tains of dry goods that scrouges then
outer thar places in all the public
vekuls.
4, l understand that the propriaters .
| the omnibus lines hes been loosin mum
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$500

PEnsoNAL.--The North Iowa Times
says that it understands ''tbat C. w.
Cotton. OF the Rochester nss,..cs-ss; is a
candidate for the House, in Minnesota,
and ifelected will make an excellent Re-
preventative" That's SO PAT, both as
to the candidacy and election. We're a
candidate for the House" but not the
House of Representatives--the Poor
House, We guess, and we're darned fraid
we'll be elected. We'd as soon be a
member of one" House" as the other
they beat Hoosier all hollow, up here,
Colonel Democrat.
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e.. II. Learned.
Attorney at Law, Real Estate and Gen
eral Commercial AGENT.

McGaEGoR, Iowa.
Will attend to the purchase and sale of Real
Estate-cxamnation of titles, payment OF
Taxes, dc. Will undertake the collection oi
debts and guarantee prompt return.
Has for sale several valuable tracts of Land
Town Lots and Mill Properties, in Iowa and
Wisconsin. which offer strong inducements &c
speculatols Or those seeking safe and permanent
investments.
(OGce oper CuNin d Starks' Store. J
MtGregor, Iowa, Sept !, 81 u4esm
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From the Louisville Journal.
I Canpot Love Him, Mother.

Na0QOt Love ka1m, mother.
ny ANNA MARIA wELBY.
cannot love him, mother,
Though the Earlie's son Is he
He should wed him with some other,
Who hath acres broad in fee
For his brow the hauteur weareth,
That becomes him, of his line,
And his eye like falcon glareth-
Meath its proud light should pine.
cannot love linn, mother.
cannot love him, mother,
Though his voice is soft and clear,
am dreaming Of another
While its music fills my ear;
While my cheek and brow are burning,
And my eyes dare not raise,
For the light within them spurning
All the truth Of what he says. ...
.. cannot love him, mother.
cannot love him, mother,
Though his titled homo Is fair,
Though the peasant Is my brother,
would not be lady there! r.
For, were wreathed among my tresses
All the jewels of his race,
They would light, for hi. caresscs,
But poor, pale, mournful face.
I cannot love him, mother.
cannot love him, mother,
Though he loves me we'll, trowl
And he's gone, know not whittier,
Who hath won my girlish vow,
Who, though stately hall or castle
He hath none in all the land;
OF this heart hath made his vassal,
Though the Earle wins my hand.
cannot love hiu, mother.
cannot love him, mother,
Though he doubts not, in his pride,
That silken garb would smother
All the grief my heart would hide;
Yet beside him, in my slumber,
II one face should haunt my dream
In that pictured room and sombrc,
'Twould be his I dare not name.
cannot love him, mother.
cannot love him, mother.
Though my Jame-he Is poor,
Iwould rather roam the heather
Where his home is-on the moor!
Or, where light the young fawn boundeth
Through the greenwood wander wide
Where my hunters bugle soundeth,
Than to be the Earlie's bride.
Icannot love him, mother.
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Improved Process of Tanning.

+. DANIELS OF Elkhorn, Wis, has discovered
J new process of tanning leather entirely with
} out bark, in short space of time and very
I cheap-besides which the leather is fully equal.
( If not superior to the best bark tanned leather.
The time occupied ranges from S to 20 days,
according to the nature of tho hides to be tan
} ned.
The materials used are mainly vegetable, and
} are very cheap aud abundant. The cost OF MA
} terals is about equal to good oak bark at 81 u
\ cord. The cost Of fixtures, such as watts, is not
{ one-fourth as much as in the bark process. No
I machinery is used in the husines..
J Avery respectable taunory, capable Of manu-
J Featuring from to II thousand dollars worth
I Of leather annually can be established at an
{ exEcnsc Of from 500 to $500, exclusive OF the
J building.
} l have obtained the entire right for the State
} Of Iowa, and will furnih samples and give any
\ &c ired information in relation to the business. o.
Tho s-oceSs and the leather have been fully
{ proved during the last three years and are now
; being brought into general use.
Tanncries are being e,tahli he'd at McC;regor
! Clayton Co., Waterviile, Aliamshe Co., and at
( Wet Union, Fayette Co., Iowa.
The Tr:ces OF rights vary with the location.-
J County rights sell for from $500 to $4,000 town
} rights from to hundred shop right, from
! l To hundred dollars
I Addre's, i. *. A 4 IVES.
Whitewater, Wis.
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WA. ANDERSON. AgGUsrg BAILY
.zNeserS0N s. BNily,
RECTIFIERS.

FOREIGN L. DOMESTIC LIQUORS,
ETC,
Is. W. BrisLois' Stone Warehouse at the Landing,
PRAIRIE DU CHEN, WIS.
Mr.. VIM. Anderson having been extensively engaged
in the Rectifyng and Wholesale Liquor Business in
st. Louis Mo- for the last eleven years the
customers Of the New Houe here that all of their az
ticl.s will be equally good those obtained from
either st. Louis or Cincinnati. ...
WE hcep constantly for Sale.
Our own brand Of Copper Distilled Whisky VIM An
'ler'on's celebrated Nectar Whisky Baltimore Gin ;
Our own Brand Double Rectifed Whisky New York
Brandies. Pale and DIRK Bourbon Whisky Monon-
gahela Viii Ky Pure Spirits and White W Whisky.
WiSEs-Claret Port Madeira and Sherry.
Observation-Disclosures and Eourdeaux.
BlTTEGs-liostettcr Boxer and Stomach.
sUND3E-.
Ahsyntae Curscoa Wolrs Schnspps KssRNcs Pep
pcilnint fine Cut and Cavendh Tobacco Demjohns
Sc.
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WHOLE NO. 81.

ney ever sense the balloon skearts cum
inter voag. Crinaleen diminisht tha,
profits considabully, but whalebone and
steel slides 1edoooed EN- wum hafe.-
They act as skarecrows, and keep the
men outer the busses as sartiniy az
fiutterin rags keeps crows outer the corn.
field.
Sum time ago ! sudjested skeam fol
drlvln the chewin and spitten frayter-
nifty from the ladies cabins in the ferry
boats, witch I larn from the ferry mas
ters he's ben attended, with ammense
suckcess. This bein encurridging, /
venter to perpose plan for the bennyfit
OF the city stage owners, which, if com
plide with, may be the means of savin
them from bankruptcy. 1t is as fol.
lers:
o'oo''G Men 3 q nor SST1G .ffc%sr GsSe eoo0oooo
. To be DULLlEp outer their seats
In this conveyance.
900 o. o o O O O 900
1t would also be a great blessin to
merchints and uthers doin duziness
down town if a similar notis to female
tyrints could be postid in all the city
cars and in each car on the Twenty
seventh street line it would be advisa-
bul to post two. Think its rayther too
bad that a passcl of nuthin.to-do VIM
min foxes, as hev been sitting on the
cushincd setes of the dry goois stores.
and cetery, hafe the day, drivin onfortnit
salesmen distracted, should hussel EN-
outer thar places in the cars, or prevent
EN-, with thar orful hoops. from enterin
the omnibuss.
| spose menny of the bells and butys
of New York will skratch me outer thar
good books for these remarks; but as
nobody as the cap doosent fit will put it
on, and l ken spare all as it does fit from
my visitin list, the SCRATCHING wont hurt
my feelins emmy more than the thrust of
a needle would cork leg. -r.
l stand up for the fare sect like man
when they need it and desarve it, but
when thar in the rong they've got to take
the truth neat, and without shuggar,
from
Yours allus,
A DIsBANDED VOLUNTEER.
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GRANT & PECK.

nEALERS in all descriptions of I'hreshing
IyMachines. Reapcrs, Grain Drills, Tanning
Mills, Corn-Shellers, Straw Cutters, Horse
Rakes. Plows, Cultivators, Portable Saw and
Grist Mills Eastern Lumber, and Democratic
Wagons. Open, and Top Buggies, and Agri-
cultural Implements generally.
Warehouse, upper end of Main Street,
McGaEGoR, Iowa.
" Particular attention given to Consign-
ments.
ROBERT GRANT, JOHN e. PECK
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ALL FOR A CENr.-The Hillsdale
Mich Standard, states that an unu-
sual case OF litigation came off in that
village few days ago. worthy of note.
A farmer Of Camden passed the toll
gate near Reading, paid his toll. and
was handed brass cent by the keeper
for change, which he Indignantly re-
fused to accept, and demanded copper
cent; to this request the keeper in like
manner refused to comply. From words
they went to blows, pulling of hair,
scratching, DC, until both came off Sc
cond best. The man who refused the
cent, returned home, swore out war
rant, had the gate-keeper arrested for
assault and battery, tried, found guilty,
and fined ten dollars. After which the
gate-keeper swore out warrant for the
Camden man for like offence, for which
he was tried, found guilty, and fined ten
dollars also.
Since then the gate-keeper has been
sued for the cent, which will make
another suit, and costs of five dollars,
besides two lawyers fees, making sum
total of
Two fines, $2O,0O
L ,wyers fccsin assault and battery cases, 16, 70
Cost Of s., it for cent, 500
Two Lawyers fees for same suit. 1890
Total, $500
Besides an expense to the county, and
4 jury of twelve men in each assault and
battery case, whose aggregate time and
trouble is probably worth more to them
than the costs of the snit
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EVANS e. EGRERT

Dealers In roregn and Domestic Dry Good, Grocsrie
Hardware Nails Crockery. Stoves Irsn Glass. Queens
Ware Furniture Sash and Farming Utensils,
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AMERICAN HOUSE,

Roshester, Minnesota
stagss loave this House Daily for all parts Of the
Territory. Livery attached.
G. G. COLE, Proprietor.
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II. q. MARTIN, M. d.
p II Y 81 CT A N & s u r G L O. N.
Office Oh Main street, west Of the Mcnona Hotel
Monona, Nay %, III. n3itf
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MisfelIaueous.

J. II. & w. GRANNIS,
Dealers in Dry Goods Groceries Ready Made Clothing
Hardware Qucen's Ware. Tin Ware Stone w are Drug
and medicines Oils. Paints Putty Glass varnsh. &c
Main street Strawberry Point Iowa. lit
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GILBERT & BUCHANAN,
wholssalc and Retail Dos,ers in Boots i Shoet. Nc
lV0 Main Street.
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- u B u @ u E. .

UATE CITY HoTRL)
Corner Main and an Streets, Dubuque, Io,ca
B. +. WINcHEsrEs q. G. NORRIS.
Late of We tern Hotel n. I. rroprstors.
This House has been rctt-d and rcSurni.hed through
out aid offers accommodations not surpassed by any
Hotsi in tho West Sa- stages arrive aud depart dali.
for all parts of the counry. 6n
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CLAYTON LODGE No. 70.
EGBERT HOTEL,

BY Atwood ackridcr This well known House has been
put in complete order by tho resent Proprietor and
Traveller may rely ulon being well treated; at rca oil
able charges. Walkers :tage Lines change at til.
tou-e daiy.
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DEAN, FREN CHI Il EMERY,

Dealers in ry Good: Groceries Hardware Nails Crock
Stonsware Stoves end anufact of Sheet Iron
and Tin Ware. post Office Building
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HOLMES Il AVERY

HULMES u AV EN-,
Wholesale Grocsrs and Commission merchants. and
Dealers in Wihss Liquors Porter and Ale. Corner oi
Iowa and Fourth streets Dubuque Iowa 7tf
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L. H. BARNES,
Physician & Surgeon A;onona Iowa. Tr Rarncs will
be found at his idence unless ali cnt on
Du-incss. ltf
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MONDELL HOUSE.
Prairie du Chen Wis.
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r. r. FO STER,
Physician Surgeon Office at his residence on Mali
Street we,t of the uoiiona Hotel.
Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1857-11-10

national wealth. although it is distributed in MODE
rate amounts among the millions of freemen who pcs.
sess u. But with overwhelming numbers and wealth
on thelr side they are in constant danger Of loalrg
.us s ialr influence in the government, and with iii
am, MainainiDg their just rights against the inceS
.s .ns 1uors daily made to encroach upon them. y
,,o.ans 1'schef springs from the power which the
p;ny uon1y.u interest derives from a paper currency
Hniou .:ey are able to coutro, from the multitude of
as.ons s!h exclusive privileges which Hley
nase M ; IN obtaining in the different States,
anu "nrh are employed altogether for their benefit
and unesss you become more watebful in your
States and check THE spirit of monopoly and thirst
tor exclusive privileges, you WILL in the end find that
the most important powers of government have been
given or bartered away; and the control over your
dearest interests has passed into the hands of these
corporations.
"The paper money system, and its natural asso-
clates, monopoly and exclusive privileges, have al
ready struck their roots deep in the coil, and it will
require all your efforts to check its further growth,
aud to eradicate the evil. The men who profit by
the abuses, and desire to perpetuate them will con
tnue to besiegs the halls OF legislation in the General
government AZ well as in the States, and will seek,
oy every artlhce, TO mslead and deceive the public
servants is TO yourselves that you must look for
safety and fha maans of guarding and perpetuating
your free institutions
"ln your hands rightfuly placed the sovereignty
OF the country, and to you every one placed in HI
thority is ultimately responsible. 1t is always in
your power to that the wishes Of the people
carried into faithful execution; and their will, when
Once made known, must sooner or later be obeyed.
And while the people remain, as trust they ever
will uDcorruptible, and continue watchful and lea-
cause of freedom will continue to triumph over all its
enemies.o
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a Attorney for the heirs Of John Seymour Taliafer
"A ro offer for sale that exceedingly valuable, and
oh..ins such property this and the only nducement
relieved from the care Of land and negroes. The
tate contains about 2l0o Acres the whole of which has
heretofore been cultivated farm 1t IT, however,
land3 each Of which win be sold separately
Let. "Hays" propercontaining about 1000 Acres the
whole Of which, with the exception OF single bill, 10
Its situated immediately on the Rappahannock, In the
county Of King George. Virginia, twelve mile. below
wssos on h .de snd Of Mr. pate
the other This estate has always been regarded equal
to any adewater Virginia. for the production OF Wheat
reduced by excessive cultivation 10 readily restored to
original fertility Though not bushel Of clover seed
has been for twelve there upon one OF the
fields luxuriant crop The estate II we'll watered,
about thirds 10 open for cultivation and the balance
in wood part of which say l3O to $50 acros original
suitable for Ship building. There this tract water
Grist Mil.
plank will extend from the bank to the vessel re.
ceiving grain from "Hays"
2nd. The Mill Tract. situated just below Hays" con-
tains 35l acres 10 80 Of which In wood The or
gna character of the soil superior There are the re-
ing through this tract which If rebuilt would command
arge custom. This |. very desirable property for one
wishing to farm on limited scale.
rnences with the st range Of hills from the river pro-
verbal fer s fertility along the whole of the Rap
pahaunock 1t contains $50 acres sufficient portion OF
which 10 in wood For residence few situations pre-.
sent moro attractions. The location IL healthy and the
view from the hs the river 10 extensive and
beautiful This Of land placed In either OF the val
lev counties of the State-removed as Il would be from
tide.water eomnunicsuon-would really command dou.
BILE the price asked for It.
survey of each tract in prosress and pats will
soon be ready for exhibition.
Upon large part of the purchase money If satsfacto
rily secured, and the interest u punctuslly paid long
Isk ha bod Tkn Nf will a
commodated to the wishes of the purchaser
Persons desiring further information will please direct
their letters me, King George c. II. Va Those
absence will be shown by Mr Lee, the manager on the
e,tate. w. R. MASON
Sept l8-e2m
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LAND IN YORK COUNTY FOR SALE.

TIME subscriber offers for sale the tract OF land upon
situated Ia York county about three miles north OF WI
hamsburg, and adjoining The lands OF DR. K :! w amer
BENZ. Waller John James, Henry n bowden ana james
Shell 80
The tract contains 500 with an excellent dwelling
.ish four rooms ice house and barn nearly new The
yard and garden newly enclosed with the best heart tim
ber Also all other necessary out houses in good repair
The wheat crop of the present year 10 estimated at
from 1000 to 1900 bushels.
If sale 10 not effected privately before the lst day Of
October 1t will be that day Gf fair If not on the first
fair day thereaer3 sold to the highest bidder ON the
premises
Persons wishing purchase referred Mr. Hanson
Kcllam, who has charge Of the premises and will take
pleasure In giving all necessary information.
TERMS accommodating, upon the purchase money
being satisfactorily secured For any further information
address the subscriber at Hanover Court House, Vrgi-
mia. BlCK. l.. WINSTON, Executor OF
July Cleft JNO. r. WINSTON deceased.
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Louisiana ELECTION.

An election Tor State officers, members of the Le'
pisature, and four members Of Congress, took place
in Louisiana on Tuesday last. The Washington
Union publishes the following despatch, from pr
vate source:
"NEv ORLEANS, Nov. 4.-Eustis loppostion) is
elscted 70 Congress in the first district. In the &c.
oond district the contest i. very close between Tsy
Chance. in favor of Taylor In the third district Da
wilson's democrat, chances are the best. In the
fourth district Saudidgs tdsmocrst) is undoubtedly
elected by an increased majority:
"The Democratic State ticket is elected by an ave.
raps majority of about foe thousand.
s1ha Democrats have secured both branches Of
the sta,e Legislature. Their majority on joint ballot
will rapgs from twelve to twenty"