Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1857-12-12

moved for the printing Of the usual number of
copies. He remarked that he conurred heart
ily and cordially in the views OF Tho president
with the exception Of that porim relative 10
Kansas. and the action OF the Le'nmptlon con
vcn,ion, aud that he would, al ancarly day, ex-
press his views, and give his reaons for heliev
ine that the people of Kansas hal not been left
as the organic act declared, perfectly free to
form and regulate their institutions in their own
way"
Mr.. Stuart Of Mich, dem, cucurred in Mr.
Douglass views respecting the L,cOmpiun move.
mel and promised that at future day he would
speak on the subject and insist. Ia the extent OF
his ability. that the people Of Kansas should be
treated like all others and have The right to reg
ulaic such institutions as they wish tn live under
Mr. Davis of Mis-, dem, concuired in the
views Of the president on the Kansas question
aud said he would await the remarks OF MIR Doug
las before he expressed his own views.
Mr. Biglcr Of Pa dem. gave notice that he
s'oud define the position assumed by the presi
dent to the best Of his ability, aul that he would
rcsnond tn Mr Douglas
Mr. Hale of ~ n rcpub.. SPOKE in opposition
10 the constitution framed By I've Lecomp'on
convention. arguing that it wonll Ierpetuate
slaycry II Kansas no matter whether the people
acrcpiel or rejected the slavery chusr.
Mr. S'wird of y V, rcpub. sid he should
he glad to hear the supporters of he president
explain his position for II seemed to hun that the
message was very lame AMI mpoicnt in It's ar
gunienis on Kansas and that sumdhng more
would he required to satisfy the public mind than
is confined in the document itself lie trusted
that TIL debate on this poiht would not he long
DELAYED io' before we were aware Of il there
might be- civil war in Kansas. After reviewing
other pirt, Of the message he said he hoped that
1 A.
gress was substantially unanimous, that the world
might be assured that the government OF The
United States would not suffer ITS fame to lie
tarni>lSd, It's power inSullel and the lives of its
citizens destroyed w an cncniy cnirenched
though it be in the Rocky Mountains and under
the forms Of the constitution.
Mr., Mas n of Va. drnf, was free to Il ''llre
that All formation for the last SIX mouths rcla-
tive - Kansas affair, had come from qurNliona-
bic sources. II h. understood the president $
position, and he thought he did, the president >
postum WAS impregnabc
Mr.. TrImhu'l of H.. rrprh denied that the
legislature Of Kansas had authority to initiate the
convention. II was, arsnrl.na to a speech once
Schvrrcd in the Senate Ly Mr.. Buchanan him
sell, Ian act Of usurpaion" Congress had re-
pca'elv refused to authorize The people Of Kan.
saS to form state constitution. Much had been
sad about popular sovereignty. but this now
merely amounts according Ia the great exposi-
tor oi the party. To giving the free White people
OF kaus.s ihc right to determine the condition
Of few nrprneS. while they are prcclndcd from
regulating their own institutions il their own
WAY.
Mr.. Brown Of Mics lem. said there seemed
to Ne great anIietY'lo eiier mo discussion. and
e-feria'N Ia find fault Tiny had heard the
mr.S,rc impericc'y read by the clerk AID ill- re.
fore could not properly understand II. lie ask
ed senators to pause and sleep nn the message
lcl,rc hduring in a deb tie which would ca
forth tu the country over the t..lrsrayh wires
penetrating even 10 kan,as ard giving tine tC
publ. opinion on the premises nni ,ri full, un
dc',tool. Ga hi, moion the - ae sliouturd
H. the House there wa some wran.nr about
the ,lecrinn OF loor-kreprr, hut without effect
+ in a,y choice lhal body. a,ler hearing he pres
idcn,'s message aljcnrncd.
I H. the Senate. We'd c.lav SHARP debate
upon .hc pr, :, cnts n,rs.a =, took place. III " hicl
/ Mr,srs D"ugla, aud Iiialcr participated. The
views of Mr.. Dougas are contained in the foil Nv.
I iag sketch OF his remarks:
Mr. Dnug.as of III, said that on TUESDAY h.
uudvr the impress on that TIE prrsi cn bad
/ approved ,l III" action ofihe LEGO upton cor, ven
4 ti"n. anl while under that impression he felt il
Ia lie his duty tn state that while lie ,onrurr,t
IN the general views of The M sage. yet 80 far
a It approved NJ enir-cd the action uf that con-
vcnuon he entirely djsscnied Fl ON !: and would
avail himself nj an caily oproriunity to give hi:
reasons for such dis>e'l. Upon more careful and
ctural eXtm'uaiiun of the mcssae-, h.;wcvcr hC
rcj1icc'l TO find that the president had no
r.'irely approved Of the action OF that ronvcn
ton, and Ice was also reioccd to find that III,
president hal not recommended Congress t.
pass law, rrcc.Ninl Kansas into the Union as
''n, rue ',e zone o. we message indicate ,h'
rnn,r,s. may mas. ,dm;i,;r, Eans.s n,In