The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-01-20


we cannot now exactly see but ask the honorable ssna
from Ohio II this amendment be agreed to- will he vote
for the bill II it is hostile intended to en-
barrass the BILL that presents question very different
from what il would be If il is offered bona de perfect IT,
to make it perfect to enable ii to do justice
Mr. PUGH. will say to my honorable friend that
conceive IL to be my right As member of this body,
though may be opposed to bill t. make ii as little OBJ
jeconabIe as be before voting If there be any
force in argument urged in support of the BILL this in
my Judgment Is the full measure Of relief do not
that am prepared for the bill in any shape for
my mind was good deal in doubt until i read the
honorable gentlemans report but 1t may be that with
other amendments which shall propose and other gentle
men may propose, may vote for the bill certainly
for il in its original FORM 1t TO this is
attempt in good faith to perfect the BILL though
may not be ut liberty to vote for it.
Mr. EVANS. 1t does not to that the difference
very material II you take of eighth land all his
tory to that being the of depreciation
from what the officer received considering the captains
communication at $4,000 the average II leaves about
lO0 and that Is what il to be paid under the amend
ment to each officer. If you multiply that by the
whole number of officers two thousand two hundred the
result Is larger amount than be appropriated
under this bill in its present form.
Mr. PUGH. Still the question comes back if are
paying money upon contract let us pay IL II we are
Mr.. SEWARD. Will the honorable senator from Ohio
allow to ask the effect of tho amendment that he pro-
poses in regard to one or two things Since il Is mod
fed 1t that it provides for payment TO the
officers only who living, and that when officers are
living, nothing s to be paid to anybodyelther to the
Mr. PUGH That is disposed Of by subsequent section
Of the bill which, it stands gives the money TO the
widows and children and grandchildren If my amend
be agreed to, intend to amendment 70 that
Mr.. SEWARD. / understand the honorable senator in
regard to that point The second point which wish
the amount which Is To be paid. pays only the prnc-
pal of the difference between the communication cert
Gates the nominal and at the real value in 1913.
Mr.. PUGH. subsequent section Of the bill refuss to
nav int hat Wi he omen tn ameu
reached The only object here is to ascertain the prnc
pie which the whole bill is to proceed ask for the
yeas and nays the amendment.
The yeas and nays ordered and taken.
Mr.. FISH desired his vote to be recorded.
Mr. TOOMBS. ask the honorable senator from New
York if he has not personal interest in this bill
M FISH am very willing to answer that question:
although is wholly immaterial to my right to vote
sent here by the State Of New York and by the cons
bill that comes before this body have interest in
tie bill passes but sir will say to the senator and to
the Senate now, that the bill passes in any form what
ever not cent of the money which will be coming TO
my fathers representative shall 60 into my pocket will
divest myself Of all interest in it. Whatever may to
me shall 60 to the representatives of the New York line
who served during the revolution and who will be benefit
ed under the bill.
Mr. CASS The remarks Of the senator from New York
Mr. FISH render it proper that should explain my posi-
ton to the Senate When this first introduced
felt favorable it, feel favorable towards every fair
calculated to do that justice the officers and sol
ders of the revolution which the country unable to do
that being of revolutionary officer, had an inter-
the passage of the BILL and could not therefore, vote
upon it But my views have since changed.
The investigation which the subject has undergone in
the Senate has satisfied that the bill ought not to pass
do 60 into the Details for they have been sufficiently
examined and the exposed In this debate Under
these circumstances reluctantly compelled to vote
against the BILL and shall accordingly do so.
Mr.. CRITTENDEN. Before the vote is announced
wish the Senate understand that have the honor to be
the descendant of revolutionary officer and, Of course
am interested II anybody is interested in the bill sup
pose am but do not feel myself at liberty, because of
any petty Of interest may have to withhold my
vote from my constituents vote for them. If there
objections on this score, wish gentlemen to know it.
The result then announced-yeas 26, nays 2l--as
follows:
YEAS-Messrs. Allen Benjamin, Biggs, Butler, Cass,
Clay Dodge, Douglas, Fitzpatrick, Geyer Houston, Hun
ter, Jones of Iowa. Mallory Mason Pearce, Pugh Reid
usk, Sebastian, Slide Stuart Thompson Of kentucky
Toombs Toucey, and Weler--26.
NAYS-Messrs. Adams, Bayard, Bell Of New Hampshire
rodhead Collamer, Comegys Crttenden Durkee, Evans
Fessenen Fish, Foot Foster, Hale James, Pratt Seward
Trumbull, Wade, Wilson, and Wrght-2l
So the amendment agreed to.
Mr.. EVANS ! hope shall take vote on the bill. |
am ready to vote for 1t amended The only difference
is that it will require money than it did be-
fore.