New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-07-17


81 he seemed dfconceried W. tfen forced our way
through them ard down 10 Avenue A; a. We got
a. Cund The corner Officer Atsms"h was nefdy az my
rie hit band ] beard some heavy sub.tabce lul upon
HIM ard be went right down u his face. tbnh Il
was thin brown stone the end OF cbimn y, but he
ea>s 1t three bricks from The house; he
coon get up again we passed on o""n Avenl'
10 TIE corner If Third e're-', ard teen stopped,
when The people seemed to di-perie for the most
paIt They peared 10 be very argIy aud excite. :,
more than ever saw them before Standing at the
coyntr q Third street one Of The men came TO me
faid-"Captap. they have got one OF our men down
Avetue A there, beating hhh.' / looked down 10
Nc. 90 Avenue A, and saw group OF people; we
sisred down there. l told the mcn If that was the
sdtraby. endthc crowd gave way before them; there
were perhaps twenty or thirty in the crowd; when
came up they were sonipg us from The corIer OF Ave
hue A, and a place called Mechanics Alley right
across; tho men startcd down Aye.ue towrd
them ] canc and saw it was German who was
living down, with his friends around him; he was
eppare ntly much Injured; / at once saw 1t was the
large, stout man whom ] saw trlos the stone or
brck and who fell at the corner OF Fourth street sad
Ayepne A; they said he lived there; fully identified
him az the Eau he had dark coarse features
and prominent eye brows when first saw him, cup
posing him to be the leader Of the rot g market"
him, as the police tern IT, as to know him again il
should ever get him; stood looking directly at hun
for minute, and when saw him lying on the plat
fo,m at the house at once said that Is the verable
man. afterwards learned that he fell which the shot
was fred, when gun went off 10 the window Of one
&C the houses; then called the men back, ard de-
cided to return up Fourth stree, the same way we
came; told the men to keep quiet aud IN liue as We
came alofg toward the corner, brick or paving
store came from house on the east side and po.ed
the dirt up between the men and me; think Some ~
the men said then &" he ought to be shot; tol
them /" don't fire." my object was to Ct wa
through; We came around aud went up Fourth stree
to the Station House.
O. When were the first shots fred by the officers, If
any ? A. II there were any 1t was a';er We Terc
fired upon fIom the corner house, do rot know that
sny shots were fired by my men.
q. lBy German Jurcr)-I wish 20 know l; Capt
HART did shoot hmself' A. No, Sir; never c.rdei
a pistol except once, 10 the 'long-hore Tiots, whe1
Mayor KinesaId gave me one never hEed Que.
A. did, Sr; some OF them have away- carried
them.
O. Did you maltrea. Muller II suppose there IS 70
dispute but that il the man when you found hln lying
disabled on the platform A. did not saw n. ore
msltIe at him.
Counselor Tomlinson here addressed the Coroner,
ard taid he wished to examine the witness. lie had
been applied to by some Germans who desired 10
arrive at the truth. He thought the doctrine was
delusion that counsel had No right to appear on To-
quests.
quiry, to be conducted solely by the Coroner and
jury If he THE Coroner wished to call On counsel 10
assist him he could do So but 1t was not the right OF
any counsel to appear nasmuch a. nobody stsuds ac
ter of cou,tesy that Mr. Tomlinson should put ques-
tions to the wituess through him.
O. (By another juror. How do you know there
were muskets fred a. knew by the repoIt-,he
cracking report different. never saw Muller be
fore that day; the stone go out OF his hand as
he swung it to throw. He was il his shltt..eeves,
and think the shirt white, or light coo'eci am
positive as to his Identity.
no the German Juror-We bad our poiicemen's
hields OF had old style police cap; otheTs
were Panama hats; have not seen Muller sitce
his death; went 10 the house or Monday but was not
Ctvn haya hsn~ m
olice come Of the have been in the habit OF car
ryng pistols; never gave permission for it.
To Mr. neutrality-suspicious. put through the Cor
Cnerl-I first LETT the Station House with boy WHO
went down with me talking about the matter the men
were all down there !her had about thrtymea with
ne; perhaps a little less; don't know how many OF
them armed gave the order to put up the PiS-
tolls because saw mau have one IN slght go"
pistols fred from the crowd, ana apparently from the
Louses; eaw the crowd push against the officers,
strike at them and stone them.
To a Juror-When | went to see the body of Muller
Monday aftepoep they not only refused me Abundance,
but e disposed to take my life; they took after inc
and stoned me; escaped ont Of side door before
they kpewt During the fight my orders were s tns,
the men should keep in line tbibk there wa. hrlng
from pretty all the corners. wac some four o.
FIVE feet from the nan who was shot whsD he fell
The Coroper-lf there is any 4hcer OF witness mere
need be afraid to show it for there is no as against
carrying them. , ..
three bullets of different sizes, the largest OF which
WA taken from Mulers body while the smallest waS
too large to 60 into the bore of either of the pistols
Marguerite Hoffman, residing at No. l5 Fourth av-
erue, being sworn, says-About O'Clock on oaoday
evening went to No. q Avenue to see @y sister
everything was then quiet saw four or hve men
standing at the Of Third street and Avenue a.
Policeman came along and tried to get them away
they tough, him, and got him in the middle OF tne
street ard knocked him down; he got up and ran
away. and brt ught back some more officers; the
crowd went up Third street; they were fighting WINS
going up; finally they came down again; weni down
Avenue toward Fourth street, when they aSalaa
fought; they then turned and went toward Second
street when the people went away aud left the roce
men alone; think there were about dozen ROUGE
men; during the melee saw man run out IN tue
frst pistolshot heard; right after, that |
heard firing from the houses on me ieis-
hand side Of Avenue A, near tourtn street
saw smoke; believe it was from the Windows vi
the houses; the crowd then ran away ana Tue IGnce
ran after the crowd VIXEN they found they could not
catch anybody, cav policeman run across tns
way TO the corner Of Second street and Avenue a.
there was man standing near the corner OF the house
TIE policeman struck him with hiS cruz ahu ns In
the man was doing nothing at the time; the man lay
for a moment wnen another man, who stooo on the
other side, fell; how he got hurt do not krow; no
one wss near HIM heard no pistol there; diu
NOT that man any more saw nGtug r, 81 Of t
ont WING ow; saw nothing thrown; the man VINO
flint fred the pistol had club or badge; Lea" 10
persons in the windows where the hripg came tfoui
don't think saw any of the policemen lire.
David G. McIlyey, policeman Of the Seventeenth
Precinct being sworn, sad-On Sunday evening
last | was on duty in Second avenue; and
Sereean! Lockwood, and six or seven men were
coming down Second avenue to the Station house
sswt reached the neighborhOod of Fourth street aud
Second avenue, we saw people running across the
avenue; sad there must be trouble down tsere; we
went down; when We turned down Fourth street to-