The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-02-28
Mr.. WELLER. think 40.

I =. proper guD-
init to the honorable senator wether tits worth while
push il this bill 1t will hazard the bill Just in
formed good authority that the construction of the de-
partment is the one-that enlisted men meant ali
enlisted, but it did all employees hired foi
particular purposes, and not intended TO do
Mr. WELLER The language in the act of 1854 is ''non
commissioned ofeers musicians and privates aud tina
held not TO include the enlisted in the ordnance
| department
Mr. oAsS They did not use the term aenIisted men,
Mr.. WELLER. No; and tn refore they say it did not
extend to ordnance men, though they are enlisted.
Mr. CASS 1t seems to me it is not well to hazard the
| bill on this amendment.
| Mr.. RUSK. We can put il on an appropriation BILL
Mr.. WELLER. These justly entitled to the ad
ditional pay, and trust shall give it to them.
] The amendment was rejected.
Mr.. WILSON. propose to move an amendment TO this
bill do not know that any other senator will for
it; but believe it right and make the motion. am
willing to to increase the pay of the subordinate
officers but believe the lieutenant coloues the colonies
and generals OF the army adequately paid now.
to insert after the words each commissioned officer Of the
army" the words under the rank of lieutenant colonel
that the increased pay will apply to majors and al Off
| GERS of inferior rank.
Mr.. PUGH. Imove to amend the amendment by striking
out lieutenant colonel and inserting brKader general
The amendment TO the amendment rejected.
! The amendment was not agreed toi
| Mr.. JONES Of Tennessee Mr.. Plesident-
Mr.. WELLER appeal to my friend from Tennessee Ia
abstain from offering his amendment The question has
settled by the Senate 1t is impossible to these
abuses in the army SO long as we have so many off in
this city and suggest that may well let them have
The increased pay which the Senate have already decided
! they shall have
Mr. JONES, OF Tennessee would yield with Infinite
pleasure to my friend from California if did rot feel iha,
had public duty perform satisfied that the bill
Is wrong am perfectly satisfied in my Judgment thai
IL will work evil to the country and to the army and
should be false to mys and false to my position il did
not attempt as far as could, to remedy IL That my
object. do not expect to succeed with this amendment
but hope spread it the record with my for it.
Whether it receives the Of another not is
| wholly immateral to me.
have devoted much time to this subject. have been
/ tk, ahn.,ft fan
had time and the Senate in condition listen
amendments, could satisfy the Senate that they
making mistake. Bat the doctrine which has OBJ
ained here recently since came into the Senate that il
will not do tor us TO make amendments to House bills for
fear OF losing them in my Judgment is OF the most
dangerous precedents ever established. will not SO far
my goes add anything that rule that prece-
dent When offering my amendment, do it under these
! -'nps, and wish to make single remark for do
Uoa no, wan, % dan. the Senate.
In the schedule that pU-- nearly as / could la
pay, have endeavored to ascertain, no now,'
what the actual pay of the various graaes '"'
have report made TO the House of Representatives las,
year, giving the actual pay OF every officer in the
have gone it carefully have had an experienced
clerk 60 1t carefully and ascertaD nearly
could what was the average pay OF the different grades
have taken that basis Then have added fair and
reasonable, and think increase OF salary,
and it upon that basis that offer the amendment Let
Illustrate beginning with the lieutenant general What
does he get now He received last year S97l4 1 and
claims tba. he entitled to great deal There is
| n controversy growing out of the very difficulty
now attempting to obvite place his pay at $l25oo-
an increase over the actual receipt of last year.
Then / to the major general. What did General
Wool receive last year? Ssven thousand eight hundred
and twelve dollars Iput he fixed pay at $1,000 Why2
Because the very generalGenerat TSiggsreceved
So 232 General Wool received nearly 00O aud neral
Twiggs $3232. fix the pay of maor-general at $1,000.
then down to brigader-general and fix the pay at
SO 000 That Is something above the aggregate average OF
the pay of that grade and down through the whole
list The chief increase however will be found in the lower
grades think the evil in the army is to be found in the
he
crease therefore is chiefly hemcspain and first and
second lieutensnts. Offer the amendment The Senate
may dispose of it they please move 1t as substitute
| for the whole bill after the enacting clause
That the pay raions, allowances and other emoluments
of the officers OF the army, authorized by
when ORDERS which shall be paid the actual
thereby shall under no circumstances exceed the fol
sls 500; major general $1,000 brigadisr general
colonel lieutenant colonel 50 800 major ss
s. saps 500; lisassnahs , Of cavalry, si,soc. -
Arery and Colonel s., ,ooo lieutenant colo
ant ST soo second and brevet IeateDants sl4oo pay
master general ooo deputy general sS 200
a the
Q49,) S300o surgeons of the third class 26) $4,000
Of the fourth class s2 $1,000 surgeons of the
SEC B. And be il further enacted That military store
keepers whose salary S250 shall hereafter receive
ST. 500 per each with tho fuel and quarters OF cap
tain of the those whose salary is $500 shall here
after receive 0OO with the quarters and fuel of euten
L
ona arores shall receive 81 500 each the principal clerk
each of these amores 200 per and each of the
other clerks ST. 100 per annum.
! Mr. COLLAMER If understood the gentleman, he
desires increase the pay of inferior officers Does his
amendment increase the pay at all
| Mr.. JONES, of Tennessee. Yes, sir.
| Mr. COLLAMER l do not understand it so.
Mr.JONES, of Tennes 1t increases very materially
the pay OF leutenants and captains believe most OF the
euenants are receiving about eleven hundred dollars
believe the something like eleven or twelve hum
| dred dollars
Mr. COLLAMER l understand from the reading of thit
paper have not had it printed that does not pro-
pose give them nything 1t only provides that the
pay shall exceed much but it does not propose
| give them any thing.
! Mr. JONES' of Tennessee If the gentleman wishes il te
go up that point he fix it absolutely endeavored
conform to the wish of others The amendment is oper
Mr.. COLLAMER. But the point is, does it give then
| increased pay2
i Mr. JONES' of Tennessee. would fix it so, but Other
senators wished margin left The senator can move BIZ
i amendments. /,
Mr.. CoLLAMER. do not inquire as to any amend
ments but the present standing OF this amendment
| does il give any increase of pay at all
Mr. JONES of Tennessee intended 1t to be in its pres
words Some who agreed with me in principle lnsstec
that should be made absolute but limited No Off
| Ger can go bevoud this.
Mr. COLLAMER. But it does not provide for going pI
! to it.
Mr. JONES' of Tennessee. Then viii modify the amend
ment so as 10 strike the words shall under circum
stances exceed the following amounts and insert shal
| be follows"
Mr. PUGH called for the yeas and nays; and they wer
ordered and being taken, resultedyeas IL, nays 3la
| follows:
Hunter Johnson Jones Of Tennessee Mason Pugh Sebas
tian, Slide Toombs, Toucey Trumbull Wade, and wei