The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-02-20
COMING To THE PoaNT.


should pass except upoa certain conditions Of pront
70 themselves arising from their passage and also TO the
fact that certain Of money have been paid oy per
interested In the passage OF bills with the uader
standing that they were 70 be divided among certain
members Of Congress who aided In their passage l do
wish 70 be understood, however, separating the
information aimed In his published correspondence
that cbtained from him ou,edo Of It. because In
instances have deri red the information from his
published correspondence and from him outside OF that
correspondence, but the Information derived from him
led me 70 the belief and 0wedgs which have stat
in ,he 1,mes derive bis information fr The article from
you, or did he furnish you the article without any In
formation from yeui
winesa-rhs question implies that am not the author
Of the article
BY M Rchie-Dd you not 20 state TO the coumitteeS
AGAIN ASSUMES The RnsPoSsIBIITY or EDITORIALS.
WhnessI declined to sate whether wrote the article
or not and gave, my reason for denisg, tho fact
tpes WAS responsible for ths articles In the paper and
did not wish 10 designate any particular one ~ own;
In saying that respou ble for tha article, meant
TO say that whether wrote or not, the article was
BY Mr.. The point want to arrive as 10, wheihor
there any other responsible source for that article and
therefore ssk you If The writer or the erticle whether
the writer NOT obtained bis Information from
your
Witness-I think can say that the information upon
which the article written was derived from the
sources which have Indicated.
BY Mr.. Da vn-Tbat Is not In answer 10 the question.
put the question directly DID you furnish the
yourself
Wtness-Then, understand the question TO be, whe
TO the writer through some body else do not soc how
Can possibly answer that question without saying d.
reoty, or by implication, whesner was or was net the
writer.
BY Mr.. Ritchie-You state where the Information
came from without saying who was the writer
Winess- bave stated that have no original tuforma
tion or knowh oge on the sublect.
BY Mr. Davis wish understand whether you fur.
nished the information upon which the art sic was writ
ten nat,er you eos Il, where ANYBODY else
got IT, Who iurnirhed 70 the author ot the ar'clef
Wi.ness-I do not think can give any other answer
than hA aQiP AU
Br Mr.. Davis-You have given no answer as oil.
ask you TO give me- . direct answer.
Sitness II information upon which the article was
written wbioh led the writer make the
Il contains, derived - nave already stated from
NJ smooton ou, regular correspondent ana from me
Information upon which the article Wa based came 70
tho writer through me, or came 70 me through him,
question cannot answer without saying directly, or by
implication, whether l wrote the article or not, and
wish to avoid saying that Perhaps II will answer the
purpose Of the committee bowever add that there
other original Of she Information contained In
article than self, Mr. 6monlon, and the other par
ties TO y hom have referred.
By Mr. Warner We're the facts upon which the edito
rial article In the Times was based communicated oy Mr.
smonon or others you or we're the facts communcA
other persons with view 70 have the samo publshed IN
tn Q 7trnes
MR.. sMoSros s'ASD orHrRs" MruoAnD-oss POINT sxr
winess-rhey were communicated by Mr.. simsnton aud
others to me- and we're not communicated by me TO hr.
the view to have them published in the Tmss
By the Chairman-In relation 70 what measures pend
Ing before Congress docs this D,uAton these
bpatons referred TO In the article Of the fncs exist
Wltness-I do not know,
BY Mr.. Davis-sate In detail the facts and circum-
in your editorial which came to you from ether
than Mr. simonton, whether exclusively or In common
with him9
wpess-I cannot state In detail any facts or oiroum-
stances with regard 10 that combination because have
no knowledge OF tnem except what have received In
general way from the sources Indicated.
Hr.
iacs or crcum stances - they came 70 you whether
wtness-I do not think could state any details ths,
would be st su valuable for the purposes Of the com
TIE rxrnzs1oys on RAYMoNp's MIND
BY Mr. Davm-wnl you state the facts az they came 70
your
poses OF .he committee more than have stated 1 may
state In general terms without coonnine myself 10 what
would be tecnDcay oonsiderea q evidence tas have
ton - well a. with Mr simonton, about these matters
and have received from them, at different times, state
merits OF things which they saia were true aud
OF things which they believed and putting these
with facts which knew Z, be true, and with the publ,
records Of the day the whole has made impression
,aiDiy-that such combination does oxis. Upon that
couvictlon have acted In the oommsns I bave made
upon the subject In the nme cannot give the details
of the information upon winch Il ID based
YoRH THE PARrcULAss
ny MI DAvis-Iou epeAk or q particular mbinAtio
which you suppose 70 exist Il Il general co nbinaiiou
for the purpose Of making money, or Is Il one IN
which and ID are combined for . particular pur.
witness-I cannot say that the information which
came to me aasised bus led me to believe that the
was IN most general one moi that
n smbTacsd an nils bu, tn.r /, smsrrn n.s many Nils
By Mr. Davis-Name one
Wi,nes,-I c.npo ma them. belevc bo ~evev that
n embraced hill, annrony,ang srsc smoon,s of rnon,v
or tho eouivslopts of gv~ns IN which ina
vduals pecup,aiy Interested and for tho pasage
Of which they we're willing To psy; do not kuow the
Nv NJ Dsv,sTbcp th,. In fovn.tor Ala mt ANNA An
you In sny definite vbspe no that Won could ssv ths,
q O, @ b rad comoined 10 cayyv out psrt,onls, mss
sure,S
Witpess-whil, have heard the pames of unembeys
mentioned In COO nectiou with H. nave not heard the
names OF the me mbers of such oombinston
BY Mr. Dav.-rhen you have only heard that n IA sun.
posNd thai m, m bcys IN We euterod INTO such
ncns
wiuess-T have net heard n q, . supportiou
Rv Mr. ps,t- Did tpey asseyt tina, they knev A.,
whncss-It vas s,atea 10 me AZ . N after OF fact
By Mr. Davs-CAu VOC state Que of these fsctsY
wtness-I have said that II was stated 20 me generally
a. matter of TACT tra, such combipsoa ex,s,oa for
The purposes have uamed
nv Mr. D.vis-Tben vss a nerolv susres, ed "A vou
,bat ,uch pnaion exised Win ressrd 20 hills he