New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-12-10
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eSbSuGLAs replied that bis ei Ipa1HSnn, to
,s LANGUAGE Of The fles'Sent ID thst the Con.
Goveipca va" 10 be submitted to toe people M
sttuhon ~ bsipg ii ent on that subject, he took u
Ioomos - fhss the Constitution would os sue
for grsnssiSent was rehi in taking that GROUND, why
was sct SSiFR Cd not intend 10 hold the Senator
NJ lisos to anything which did rot appear on lns
uv-sk At private meeting. before VT. iCoI L;a
IN sss introduced 1t Sa held, 10 veS OF al "a he
ealhes surrounding the question, tnS. Trna,itnlion
~ The peoule should be inserted in the bll snu "A
s derstandns that the Convention then PlopY
vould make Constitution add send !" "0"e''''
yi,hout submitting it 10 the people. l.. ,rou,d not
Mr.. DOUGLAS, in reply, ssid tnst u, ~ nnonIy
,t a. senator 10 insinuate what he ronu no' opehy
dsclsIe. II be DOuglss was present .; .a0 -, S;ro
esss,-sd 10 and sanctioned such docaine, let MIN
(BigleTl say 60. -. .o,s,srtIv af f.ult
:, w.. nsintnl indeed. Perhaps he had wrongiuny
.nLar az The subject He had told the Senator thsV
ne aid not Intend TO reflect upon hin'
M DOUGLAS remarked that he would resase III.
Bser from secrecy ana s S,hsp nubcy or privately
se,eed that Constitution should be adopted without
NJ Rie;LER stated what his distinct recollection
x,s He remembered very well thst the sa2lecI was
2nsaed In the house OF the Senator from ihhos Dut
2plsss not sure that Mr.. Douglas psrhcpste1 10 Tue
Isbsse in which 1t was argued that under all tue CIR
rumstapoes, there ought not to be ProvlSo Id Mr'
Toorbs's bill requiring the CONSTITUTION W 20 SUD-
mtted. -. .rho, .ho ILL
srt on that subiect il wss understood as matter OF
course that the Constitution was W % suomlteu.
Ths, he "a, marty to force on the people Consti-
tuition withou. its being submitted to them, was not
true. ,:s 49,. H. hd .u.s NJ
nouol,s's attention 10 his course on MIR. Toomb:s BILL
nnss n vss in derogstion Of bis doctrine laid down
800 When the Senator from Illinois introduced
ii. n9spsrstory bill for Minnesota be provided that
The Consultation should be submitted IL the infer
epcs was that the Constitution would be submitted
where such bill Is client why the clause inherited
IN the Minnesota billl He did not impugn the Sen
stor's patriotism, honorable motives, or courage. lie
had no more constant sdmirer than himself or one
who oftener defended bin.
Mr.. HALE wanted TO know some OF the very pc.
tuiar circumstances which rendered the exercise OF
the elective franchise extremely difficult. Laughter !
Mr.. BIGLER said that no one had said more on this
subject than MIR. Hale, and in violence aud keeping
FreeSate people from the polls He (Bslerl was H.
te ested TO get Kansas into the Union.
Mr.. DOUGLAS, TO prevent wrong Impressions,
asked Mr. Bieler whsther he meant to be understood
as saving that he In hs house or else where, had
expressed himself in favor Of the Constitution without
its being submitted to the people
Mr.. BIGLER-I made no such allegation. -,
i Mr.. DOUGLAS-You left it to be inferred. will
not allow il 70 be Inferred that so declared in my
own house. II did not, SCOUT me OF 1t.
MIR. BIGLER-I repeat have no recollection ofthe
Senator'S participating in the discussion. -, 3.
don't know what my house had to do with it. Laugh
ter
Mr.. BIGLER-Whst 1 said was truth, and that
only-wh said is on record.
On motion Of MIR. GREEN Of Missouri, the further
consideration Of the message was postponed, and the
Senate adjourned,