New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-07-06


sTrment'' That was the statement, aud he asked
tho noble Lord if any steps had been taken TO obtain
CONDENSATION. One word In iaV0f OF me On'too
States Government. He believed that they were not
oioinay cogpzant Of what was going to be carried
ON In their name; but they had involved themselves
by not Furnishing the perpetrators OF the outrage.
Pnbc opinion in the United States had strongly man
ifested itself against this Outrage wnica 'n'S naa ue
Viscount Palmerst said he was bound 10 say ,nas
the transaction was re which must be ch TacterzeQ
AZ very violent apd cruel proceeding 1t was how.
ever, authorz by the Governmen. Oh tue OnHeS
out with such severity took place, or whether the
officer who, he believed, was distinguished ana
honorable officer In the United States service mstook
his Instructions he could not say; but he was Dound
to state that the severity which was exercised reflected
no credit on the Government which ordered or on the
officer which executed it. Hear, hear But the ques-
ton which her Msjestys Government had to consider
was the international law which bore upon the point.
Now il was an unquesonable principle Of information
al law that when one Government deemed u right 70
exercise acts of hostility against any part OF the terrto
ry of another power, the supects or cl.Ions Vi .no
power who might happen to be resident IN the place SO
attacked had claim whatever upon the Governmens
which in the exercise of its natural rights committed
those acts ofhesity When for instance ~ was deemed
necessary by us to destroy the town OF Sevastopo ale
though there beenthere Germans SPenlafds
Portuguese, Americans, none OF nose parties hau
apy ground whatever upon which TO found cialm
either upon the English or the French Government
for for the losses they might have sus.
famed Those who went to a foreign country must
abide the chances which might befal that country.
II they had any claim at all, it must be upon Inc
country in which they were but they had certainly
no claim upon the Government which thought It T,gne
to commit the acts Of hostility Her Majesty Coy.
err ment had therefore been advised and ne toouSht
riohtlyl that British subjects had no grounds upon
which claim could be made upon the Government
of the United States for compensation ior tue IN
iuries which they had suffered In that attack upon
Greytown. They might think that that attack was
g.. al NV fha
II, but we had no right independent state, 70
;udpe of the motives which might have sctuated
another independent state to assert r q subjects
There was nothing too, in the relation between
Great Britain and Greytown which gave Us an ex y;
the Mosquito territory which was under our protect
orship. That was protectorship which carried with
1t an obligation to protect the country nom conquest
but it did not give right to interfere IN any as
pute which might arise between that country and any
other There were two sorts of protectorshps There
was one of the kind which we exercised over the
Ionsn Islands. where nothing was done except by the
advice and counsel of British representative In
case like that where were responsible for every
thing done, entitled to require redress for
any injuries, and to vindicate any attack. Not 80
with regard to Greytown. GreytOwn was admins.
tered by a sefcOnsttuted and self-elected municipal
ity consisting of Americans, Englshmen, Frenchmen.
Italians and Germans. They acted upon their own
responsibility and they must therefore be considered
espopsble and not we for any dispute in which they
might be involved. Wen, there was q dispute
between two rival American transit companies,
Government, and the other by the Govern.
ment of the United States; and out of tho
rivalry of those two American companies arose the
transactions to which the noble Lord had referred.
the British and American Governments, with view
to ascertain what the intentions Of the American Gov.
eminent were and they found that the American Gov
eminent rested upon that principle of nternatonslaw
70 NH he hQ mol ViscOuntl adyorted-thpif
right namely to take those measures which, in their
judgment, they deemed necessary, and they deter.
mined not to give any compensation even to their own
citizens. He not aware whether any demand
had been actually made by the subjects Of the other
powers, but it was known that they did not mean to
give any compensation to the French German, Span
iards, or persons of any other nation who were
settled at Greytown at the time Of the lombard.
ment. Her Mejesty's Government, acting there
fore under the advice of those who were compe-
tent to give an opinion, and acting also IN ac'
were not prepared to- insist upon compensation to!
these who were unfortunate enough to have suffered
from the b0mbardment The noble Visc0unt then
proceeded to appeal to Sir d. Noreys not to press
the proceedings in Committee Of Supply II was the
intention Of the Government to divide the vote into
three parts, which would enable them to adopt bet
ter classification of the items. In future years they
would endeavor to frame the estimates so to OBJ
viate the difficulties which had arisen. If that was
not found to succeed, it would then be open to the
UouSo W cOusueT Bnetner tney couiu uos "c. l0o
plan more calculated to give facilities to gentlemen
who might wish to make objections At al evenu no
trusted that they would not without due dehoerason.
alter those forms Of their proceedings, which pan
and parcel OF the system of conducting the pusine~
of the House HEAR. 80,
Lord LOvane said the noble viscount might Dc
right in the legal exposition he had given OF thus Trey
town case; but it the first time in the history o.
civilization that one nation should suddenly attack anu
destroy the property Of another. with which it was
the time in state Of profound peace. At the time NJ
attack made on the house Of the English Consul
the British flag flying, and the house was de-
stroyed with the perfect knowledge that it was undm
the protection Of that flag Hear, hearl. Certaisy
the language Of the Government in this matter W.
very different from that they had held with refeieeca
TO the Chinese dispute Hear heaIl. Ii was howevas
remarkable circumstance that whenever pou0
with which we happened to have quarrel fseess
the Government manifested plenty Of intention to yh'
dictate the national honor but when the power -
really one which we respected, somehow or othss
very different course was adopted lHearl
MIR. Roebuck could not help remembering the 60
tgatlOn to which he subjected on recent cees
sion by the LObe Lord for limiting that the nocS
Lord Governme Mt had tendency to bully the 49,
and TO be subservient ~ the strong But what did ~
noble Lord say now He bad put forward p
which In its very essence was disgrace to the oousy
Hear, hear Greytown, he said was under the ~
lection Of England. But what did he Mesn BY
| word protection 7" He said that We were bouee"
protect Greytown against occupation or conquest y
foreign power, but that ought to allow any fofcS
nation to lombard it ard reduce it to ashes. Cheeni
Greytown bad been co nized under the protecuoS.
Lnsisid; Inc pettls Of this country, thnkies sd
me Pfotechon OF England was over them ~,
onized that town; they went there because ~
ancied that they carried with them the name anu
hmuhiues OF EN- ishmen Hear, hear Grey.svr,d
the noble lord Sid was part Of the Mosqaa ss
Tory. on late occasion we had asserted our ~
| protect the Indians Of that territory. we saia -
| was part OF the honor of England. and II tnos