The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-01-27
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Mr.. BAYARD Mr. President ! do not intend to DC de-
tain the Senate at this late hour the merits OF TINS o
but aer the amendment submitted by the senator from
Ohio shall ts disposed Of desire to propose modear
ton of OF the clauses Of the BILL which eonsiaer s
ssntal cannot for my part nppIcca'e tns ooec-
slider that Il involves the interests of this country In te
event of II 10 proposition springing rom pil-
vate company, the face OF the papers who naye pro
posed the OF Great Britain 10 aio tnen 10
the Construction of yet untried project Of
sub marine telegraph between the British possessions 10
North america and England proper Il Is, OF course
hazardous undertaking Thete Is no certainty in II ana
il Is not unnatural under these circumstances that ndi
vduss should desire to see at least what terms the
stand with the governments Of the two countries
deeply interested In the event of the success OF Their
enterprise Their proposition, in the srs place asks
nothing unless the enterprise succeeds except that the go
ernment will take the soundings verify the soandings
already sen and in the event OF these soundngs proving
The former ones TO be accurate that they win suffer their
vessels TO Be employed In laying down this teegraphc
wire. That is the proposition The British government
have accepted only limited extent They ag.ee rot
in contract but In their acceptance that they will enter
into contract for the purpose of afordng ala IN verify
ing the soundings aud will give favorable consideration
to proposition TO afford such aid as the may
see M in laying down the wire The expense, therefore,
viii be very va IN this re-pee to eur country by enter
ing into similar agreement: t
connected with consequent in the eye OF the gov
of Great Britain does any gentleman suppose that
government would for consideration OF $4,000 addition.
a which is the amount Of expenditure hsre or even
500 900 additional pause for moment in securing the
Of which looked to its interests in the
event of war; of such formidable moment TO her
in the of war; and would throw into such an in-
euay In contest of that kind II possible to suppose
that Great Britain, having tine ermniu the line in her
own domnions would not ut once II she looked 70 II ~
that point of view secure herself the control of this for
midabe engine for purposes of offence in war In my
Judgment it is looked to and think gentlemen ex-
aggerae the Importance OF this telegraph IN
United States, although admit unhesitatngly that lt'
construction would tend to the prevention oi the Propa
bility of of that kind think 1T must DC SO viewed
by the of Great Britain but am at loss to
perceive to what great extent she could avail herself OF It's
after had commenced BE that as 1t may
however 1t very certain that the telegraph will be made
if il practicable whether pass this bill and enter into
this arrangement securing the right that we secure TO
ourselves by it, not lft is made without our aid arc
not in the condition. Do gentlemen suppose that
expense Of $4,000 year will prevent the making OF
this telegraph If Great Britain considers II important 70
her interests in peace and war She pays now $500
year for tie transportation of the mails between the United
States and England DO you suppose $4,000 year is a
which will make her pause if consideration, she
presumcs it will be great benefit to her in the event OF
hold it to be certain that this telegraph ire If prsc
tcab!e will be laid whether consent TO 1t or not Are
we not better os 1t not fair arrangement to us ~.
secures to our government as government means Oh
communication with agents in Europe during time OF
peace although all cut of in the event OF war
Are the terms asked too great2 There is nothing asked
u the first instance except the ordinary OF the yes
sells of the navy You comply with that with only
trivial expenses and it is only in the event Of the sersee
being successful that you ore to pay i the pro-
ceeds of the company do amount 10 six per cent? ad
If they do you only to pay 500 900 That is all you
pay for the exclusive right in connexion with Z
government of Great BraiD of the prior transmission OF
ngepce that May be deemed important by your agents
in Euroor by your here to your agents there
to the exclusion of tho public at large.
Is not that of immense Importance to the government OF
this country Is it Of sufficient Importance TO justify
expenditure of $4,000 year la my Judgment it
would justify expenditure of five times the SUM- rather
than orego the disadvantages which you would be placed
under by excluding yourselves from this right which is
all the right granted to Great Britain and which the gov
ernment OF Great Britain when the proposition was made
at accepted confess think the terms of their ac
ceptance In spirit Of entire beriy TO this country
securing they do, to this government well as to the
government Of Great Britain, equal rights throughout
see for jealousy here cause in this case
whatever there may have been in Others to mpue to the
government of Great Britain desire to take any advan
tage from the construction of this submarine telegraph
The offered and the before you Alter
saying what she s willing to pay she spuates these
the only things material to us that the British gov
is have priority in the conveyance Of messages
all others except the Of the United Staes
and that between her aud the of the United
States the rule is to be- the message when received shal
be first transmitted. 0 NAHsF fN 1p gaN I'D
In these stipua,ions think there is one defect; but
have doubt that under this bill originally framed,
the Executive In making contract with these parties
would take to remedy that defect You have now,
however by of the amendments to the BILL Il am not
msaken bound him that he cannot do So One of the
provisions Isl: 4r fy7@e H
rovied Jarther That the contract to be made with the
proposed BY that to the New York. Newfound
land, and London Telegraph Company"
We have that proposition before II makes stpu-
laon the mode of the transmission of the messages
the In my Judgment II s essential to the
cury of each that they should have right
their messages through their agents and
the object of amendment will be to prevent that clause
from excluding in any contract made by the Executive Of
the United States the right to provide that the
transmitted by each government under contract may be
transmitted by its own agents. think that essential
should be unwilling TO trust diplomatic message any
but the agents of the government presume the govern
! ment of Great Britain entertains the same feeling.
But you ranme the President unnecessarily the
of the proposal the part Of Great Britain You
much into executive detail In the restrictions
posed by the clause which has been added to this BILL and
unless the amendment which have suggested be adopted
do not think forthc bill because think It
senal to its operation that the government should have
the right to transmit its messages through its own
agents. you send it in cipher cphers be decphered
by ingenuity But you should have your own agents at
each end OF the line appointed by the You
may make them appointed by the President by and with
the consent Of the Senate to fidelity and del
y would be OF the utmost importance in reference
sages Of this kind to be of any government
With this modification can vote for the bill can
disadvantages arising to country in time of
under this bill that will not necessarily follow ii you do
not enter into arrangement with this company By
refusing il you lose all the you would obtain and
you avoid Of the evils which feared you cannot
prevent the construction OF this line by refusing the appro
priaton here asked for think, when the amendments
already added to the bill to be printed you will find
of them conflicting. The defect is that there is
too much of detail You ought trust little dis
cretion to your Executve putting only proper limitation
his authority You undertake. in legislation
prescribe the precise of the contract and you do
you will get the matter confused. ,rsa j
hope the amendments will be printed before the bill s