New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-12-22


agree With the Prescenti He INF e ;.'S dld not
stood differently. Or did he mean d., uader-
Iteration, having laid down its Ks,.s Aamn-
will rot hold that those who ASSIST and $780,, psacy,
pohcy 90 10. " pose 'ne ADMINISTRATOR Tcec -
certainly 70 room tor misundsrstsndno a, ts.,so
1.-The meant that be does no. zee cIaaJ ~ .aA poae
icy IT, Nh. Bgler could ten him and - ,h,. mar POI
be Feed not doubt the socuiacy Of ,ha a, cocsnoa
TIE Administration, hsvrg froa u. bsxio,jcs ss;
tanned tho Territorial laws OF K.n.,s nios nNn
toned the authority Of the Territorial tayng ssoc-
call Convention Of Delegates, "a 'aatur .
By the people, to make Coost,,rs e'sc1o
State Government, and having ex.rci,a. and
IT. powers to to-, see ,Ss, d to tie pesp. sir
their own way" II would be Improper to preiadss N
discard the coipgs Of that Convention, bsSoys -
been fully developed and, further, that vAes ~.
shsl have presented herself for admission ma -
Ur,ou, her Constitution being RepaNc.a, nd ~
people having had fair Opportunity Of mskcs ~
on Slave State, as indicated in the organic Al 80
as required by the general understanding Of The 49,
country it viii not be considered sufficient ressos ~
objett to the admission Of the State thst tbs erss
forms Of the Constitution, about which there -. :.
dispute srd which may be changed At Any time d -
Die n ay cesire were not submit Cd TO populv -
The people of Kansas had right to do tais 10 a.
own way. Tie way it has been Gone Is their on
but if in this OF in any other particular the DeaQst
have acted in bad faith, or have abused the psvn
delegated TO them they responsible TO the eeoos
rot to Congress or 70 the Adninistr anon. Va q
Mr.. Biger said he had before him the bill r-e,rx2
BY Mr.. Douglas on the 7.h March, 1856, povidns a.,
the admission Of Kansas into the Uaion as Ststs A.
third section Of which reads IS follows: That ~
forepcicg propositions be and the ssme s,s bsrsA,
offered to The said Convention Of the people of Kss
ess when formed for their acceptance or rejsct,.
which, if adopted by the Cow AID rsiISsS h.
the people at the election for the sdopHoo 81 ~
Cor restitution, sball be obligatory upon the Uaitsd
States and the said State CT Kansas. The bill resi
In place by the Senator from Georgia (Mr. Tooubs On
I,l.. refay 10 Tho rn., 49, :
Territories contained the same section word for word
RI III of these bills were under consideration At the
conference which had been referred TO- but when ina
Ser ator fr, m illinois reported the Toombs Bill to As
Senate next morning it did not contain so much Of Tie
thro sction ss In cs.es to the Convention thst TIE
Cor stitution sh ud be approved by tue people. Ths
words and ratified by the people at the election FOR
the adopsien of the Constitution" had been stick n
out Who struck those wards out, or for what psrpose
was it done, were questions eich Il was pot Tor As
The Senstor assumed the other day that vhsasyuf
the law 10 silent the subject the inference 10 In fav
of submission but a full examination OF the pre-
ceeuts bearing on that point hsd shown him inst the
converge Of the proposition had the weight Of author
y and that which had LAID down SO the rule OF PIE
cedert has never happened in a single Instance
Mr.. BgIer proceeded to reply to other points 10
Mr.. Douglass speech. lie sustained me Legality q
the Lecon pton movement and 10 the course Of his
marks said that lie could not forete what bis action
would be on the question Of admitting Kansas under
the Constitution. The case was not fully made up.
very large and dangerous power was 10 the hsnds Of
those Who are to conduct the election the Slavery
article. They may abuse it, If so, the result could not
be recognized. But il the election shal be fairy con-
due ed he should vote for the admission OF ksnss -
State, with either free or slave Constitution, b.
cause he thought tia. would settle the controversy
and give peace to Kansas aud the country. the IN
sttutors ebould not suit the people, they could b
altered more easily and satisfactorily with Kansas
State than as q Territory. -,--s-,.L =. -
Mr.. DOUGLAS replied, saying thai he had no faulf
10 find with the Senator nom Pennsylvania ormshng
series OF attacks bis consistency while onlthog 10
answer bis arguments. Some persons hsd furaisAA
bin with the records of the votes Of Senators the
Wilmot provisO and some former speeches relative 10
Kansas matters. He knew not whether these were
ton low presented He did not understsnd thu ne
tves for ransscking tho public records and nsvsps
pers, ard picking up every little sorsp, 10 see WHIT
bis course had been for twelve yean psstl a
the, %ei ISIS 81 Ne S'v very in SaS ssr
ing the Missouri Compromise lac TO tho Pc
citc Ocean, recommended by MI. buchanan In
is letter, and suppose it true mat 10 1904 be Into,
6uced q bill for the repeal Of that compromise OF
which the President says he now approves. All these
tbipss are not material to ths argument. True tho
issue whether popular sovereignty, 70 wnica inc
President ard himself were pledged, shoud DO NO
lated in Kansas He thought that the senator non
Pennsylvania showed want Of candor and fairoess In
quote What he raid or the same subject the other day,
which was perfectly in harmony with previously sx-
BE thought that Gov. Walker was authorized "a
ay what he did in his inaugural address, by the n-
stfuctiors of the resident and the Cabinet; - de-
mand that the Constitution should be momn-
ted, and, unless submitted, that It should %
regarded nuh and void He was not aware thst CIV.
Walker had interfered in the slightest degree exceps
10 pursuance of these Instructions. He never supposed
that the agent was to be denounced for oesyng IN
structons, and the principal spplsuded for giving
them. He admired the manness of the President In
assuming the responsibility Of giving them, and only
regretted that the President proposed from motives q
expedency to accept the Constitution without rstdoa
have been submitted. II il Is right to submit IT, Let t
be submitted Let policy and expediency take care Of
themselves. He complained that the Senator from
Pennsylvania seemed disposed TO put him in fslse
position The true Sest is: the Constitution must 20
rejected. The only true way Of ascertaining whether
the Constitution Is acceptable or not, was to subus
il to the people. -
Mr.. BlGLER explained that he did not say thas
Mr.. Douglas maintained the ground that an essb!inG
bct necessary in all cases, but that he hsd aksa
the ground that il necessary in the case Of Ksn-
fas. Tie Senator has disposed Of his own argu nen
by ssyrg that be not always consistent, and THIS
q wise man will always change his views, whenever
he thinks himself wrong. l,.--.---lr...(y.,
Mr.. DOUGLAS wanted to know by whist authority
Mr.. Biger said that the LecOmpton movement ~
an Acministra.ion measure. The Message does nos
say 90. Had he any higher authority than that
Mr.. BIaLER replied that he had made the deduc'
tore from the Message and from what hs knew In 81
dtiop. He did not assert in terms that II was an Al
mnistraton measure, but said that the Adminsfrauoa
be Id the movement legal 80 fI as t has proses:ed.
How could the PRECEDENT make recommendation,
prior to the result of the vote, which he says IN n0
Message he is waiting for 2 -, Sc. "A
Mr.. DOUGLAS repested that no snou,a nse
bad as that Senator had In that much tsdvsntsge o.
him. - a.
Mr. BIGLER was not at liberty to ssy that this VA
I-tS;-.~.,;on me asure and vo.Id al0g Ar.