The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1857-03-24
FURTHER FOREIGN NEWS.
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GREAT BRITAIN.

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GREAT BRITAIN.
The uost important intelligence is The defeat Of the Eng
lsh ministry the question OF the Chinese in the
House OF Commons The motion which was introduced
by Mr. Golden, read as follows
That this House has heard with concern OF conflicts
which have occurred between British and Chinese author
tiles in Canton river and without expressing An Opinion
what extent the government OF China may nave M
forded this country OF complaint respecting
ment lS42 this House considers that the pa
grounds far the Violent measures re=ored TO AT
Canton in the late affair Of the Arrow That select com
mee be appointed inquire into the state OF our govern
ment relations with China
On The 18th ult Mr. 8. Warren, Mr.. Whteside, Lord r.
Cecil and Sir James Graham Sustained the debate in favor
of the motion and answered by the Lord Advocate
Mr. Horsfal Sir Charles Napier Admiral Berkeley and the
Attorney General The debate was then adjourned to
Monday the I'd inst On this day Lord Pamerston invited
the liberal members of the House of Commons to meeting
at the Treasury Office in Downing street. where he adj
dressed them at length and followed by Sir W. Clay
Sir j. Fitzgerald Mr. Rich, Mr. Berkeley, Lord Goderich
Mr. Chichester Fortescue and Others all Of whom with the
exception of Lord Goderch expressed their intention OF
supporting the government The debate WAS resumed in
the House by r. Phmore Sir J. Pakngton, and Sidney
Herbert for the motion, and Sir George Grey Patrick
Robertson Sir William r. Williams and Sergeant Shee for
the ministry and hope expressed by Lord Palmers
ton and Mr. Dsrae that division would be had the next
day The following is abstract of the remarks Of Sir
w. +. Williams and Mr.. Herbert:
Sir w. f. Williams would have given silent vote on
this OCCASION but be had duty perform to his country
and 10 himself For six and twenty he had served
his country those parts of Asia which lay between the
Bosphorus and the walls Of China Before the last he
the in which, under protection the Chinese
were trading TO and from Singapore Maacca and Penang
and were enrchng themselves by participation in the
British commerce. which they freely admitted to share
But during all that time those insults being given by
them which led that treaty which gave many ad
vantages in that country. II had been said that had
loose notion of treaty obligations entered into with east
ern nations He took it that that meant that enforced
undue advantages from them, and placed them in in
ferior position But that owing those
tions having separated themselves from the family of
TONS and having used strangers with horrible cruelty
He had been in Turkey sixteen years. and bad
the Christian subjects Of the Sultan treated with the
greatest cruelty Indeed he much oppression not
only towards the Christian subjects of the Porte but
wards strangers that would be impossible to live in
those countries but for the treaties that had exaced tor
the protection of ourselves He would the same thing
with regard to Persia. That country had pursued the
No Englishman could remain there day IL
not protected BY treaty The same was the case in China
and be said, therefore, that the superiority assumed
over th0se nations entirely owing to their fault
The honorable member for the West Riding had accused
British merchants in the East of allowing
pass their hands by want of courtesy the natives of
those countries That not SO, however. The COM
had passed into other handsfor instance in Per-
STA Persansbecause native could live for onetenth
what an Englishman could do. The thing the
case with respect to the Greeks who eco
nomca and thrifty race He gave his opinion against The
suit to flag determined and premeditated, and
should therefore be resented He believed also that
Of that House against the government would have moot
detrimental effect upon the policy Of England in the East
Mr. Sidney Herbert promised studousy eschew legal
arguments and blue-books He agreed indeed with much
that had fallen from the friends OF ministers He agreed
with Sir John Bowring that the orcha had right the
British flag; he agreed with Mr. Consul Parkes that more
than enough reparaon demanded be agreed with Mr.
Booth that the ordinance Illegal be agreed with the
Attorney General that the question Of the treaty was
wholly immateral to the 1t said that the Can
tonese blackguard population. Well, but every
BLACKBOARD town not 10 be bombarded. And, re-
member that Of these backguards the of the lorcha
self composed Every Of these might if the
ministerial arguments correct, have gone into any
port of Europe shouting Civs Romanus sum- He de-
Tended Mr. Golden and Sir j. Graham from the attacks
mado upon them BY Sir George Grey, and commended in
opposition to the Home Secretary that Sir NJ Seymour did
exercise his Judgment in the attack but proceeded
throughout in obedience orders He admitted it
generous thing for the to defend It's absent
servants though they might commit occasional mis-
takey But there to be limit to this support lie
knew there incapable of any but the highest
lgous motives who held different opinion from him. but
he could not se his earnest conviction that these pro-
ceedugs cast deep stain upon the reputation of England
for justice, religion, and mercy.
On Tuesday the Sd instant the debate continued
by r. Palmer Colonel Herbert, M Gibson, Messrs Hem
ley II. Phllimore b. Cochrane, Mr.. Roebuck, and Mr.
Gladstone for the moon and Messrs Kendall B. Osborne
p Egerton and Thomas Chambers against it. Lord Pal
and Mr. Disraeli then spoke The following
an abstract Of their remarks:
Lord Palmerston commenced his reply to Mr. Gladstone
by stating that both Mr. Cobdens motion his speech
not such he expected from his high character and
position. Mr.. Golden said he friend Sir John
BowriDg of twenty years standing yet the honorable
gentleman had gone out of his way to attack him with
the greatest violence instead of viewing bis faults If he
had committed any, with kindness and forbearance He
then proceeded state in detail the grounds of com
plant against China contendng at last forbearance
had reached its limits and reply the
of Mr. Golden that the Chinese had intention insult
The noble lord then drew ghtfu picture Of the state
of society in China, abiding particularly the attempts
poison bread and TO inct other evils upon the British
residents and commended that Mr. Gladstone employed
his ingenuity in framing for such practices Al
all events they showed that the Chinese not only would not
keep their treaty engagements but that they resolved
TO take any steps to nure and annoy lie denied that
the of coercion which we had adopted were
Sir J. Bowring and Admiral Seymour having been emf
nenty marked by moderation He stated that If these
matters had not occurred ii the intention of the gov
ernment in conjunction with that of France and the
eminent of the United States, unite in applying to the
government of China be permitted to send represe mt
atives to Pekn that hope had however been dsappont
ed, but he had doubt that it would be revived. The
resolution moved by Mr.. Golden undoubtedly of
the government and he accepted II such and
added that he could admire the eloquence which was
employed deaden moral feelings and justify crime In
Petes and conservatives he called upon the independent
members of the house reject the notion being
If they did they would act in accordance with the
the country.
Mr. Dsrae at minutes past one and was recey-
ed by cries of divide which ultimately subsidized He
then proceeded TO state for giving his support
the notion which be regarded vote Of gov