Warren telegraph. [volume] (Warren, R.I.) 1857-1861, 1857-12-12

In the Senate on Tuesday
Tho Presidents message was received and read
mr.. Douglas submtted motion for printing the
usual number Of copies Of the message and doou-
ments aud $4,000 copies thereof for the use of the
Senate. lie remark ed that he concurred heartily
and cordially in the views Of the President therein
expressed, with the exception Of that portion rela
tive to Kansas and the action of the Lecompton
Convention. At an early day he would express his
views, and give tile reasons why he believed that
ganic act declared, "perfectly free to form and
regulate their institutions In their own way"
Mr.. Gwin offered . substitute" that all the
printing be executed By the printer to the Senate at
the last session"
Mr.. Stuart concurred in Mr.. Douglass views re-
specting the Lecompton movement Az future
day he would speak on the subject and insist, to
the extent OF his ability, that the people of Kan
sas shall be treated like all others, and have the
right to regulate such institutions a. they wish TO
live under
Mr. Davis concurred with tho views of the Pros
dent, aud would await the promised remarks Of
Mr., Douglas, before expressing his own views.
Mr. Bigler gave notice that he should defend the
President, to she best of his ability, and he should
respond to Mr.. Douglas.
Mr.. Douglass accepted Mr. Gwin's substitute.
Mr.. Hall spoke in opposition to the Constitution
formed by the Lecompton Convention. arguing that
il would pcrpstuate Slavery in Kansas, no matter
whether tho people accepted rejected the Slavery
clause.
Mr.. Seward would be glad to hear the support
ers of the President explain his position for it
seemed toshim that the Message was very lame and
impotent in its arguments on Kansas, and that
something horo would be required to satisfy the
public mind than il contained in the document It.
self He trusted that the debate on this point
would not he delayed long, for, before We arc
aware Of it, there may be civil war in Kansas
After reviewing other parts Of the Message, he
said he hoped that it would be understood that on
Utah affairs, Congress was substantially unani-
nous, that tho world might be assured that tho
government Of the United States would not suffer
its fame to bo tarnished, its power insulted, and
the lives Of it's citizens destroyed by enemy, GU
trcnched though it may be in the Rocky Noun
tains and under the forms of tho Constitution Of
the United States.
Mr.. Mason was free to declare that all informa-
ton for the last six months, relative to Kansas az
fairs, had come from questionable sources. If he
understood the Presidents position, and he thought
he did, it was imprsgnsbe.
Mr.. Trumbull denied that the Legislature Of
Kansas had authority to initiate the Convention.
1t was, according to speech once delivered in the
Senate by Mr. Buchanan himself an act of usurpa-
ton. Congress had repeatedly refused to author
ize the people of Kansas to form State Constitu-
ton. Much had been said about Popular Sover-
eighty but this now merely amounts, according to
the grea expositor OF the party to giving the FREQ
white people of Kansas the right to determine the
condition ETA few negroes; while they are precud-
cd from regulating their own institutions in their
own way.
Mr. Brown said there seemed to be great ankle
ty to enter into discussion. and especially to find
fault. They had heard tho Message imperfsctly
read by the Clerk, and therefore could not proper
ly understand it. He asked Senators to pawse and
sleep on the document, before indulging in de-
bate which would 90 forth to tho country over the
tclsgrnphic wires penetrating even to Kansas, and
giving tone to public opinion in the premises, not
pat ctl IL gke1 Sans tn
reflect before telling their positions and uttering
sentiments, under tie cireumstanccs to which he
had referred. On his motion,
The Senate then adjourned