The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-12-17
House or Representatives.


WASHINGTON, Dec lG 1857.
The House n the new hall TO day.
A communication received from the clergymen OF
Washington rendering their open daily
sions with prayer.
Amid much confusion the members proceeded to select
their seats by lottery.
APPROPRIATIONS 10 r PENSIONS
Mr.. JoSFs, fadm OF Pa, from the Committee or Ways
and Means reported bin for the payment OF the invalid
and other pensions
Memorials presented from Messrs. Brooks and
Whyte OF Baltimore contcsfng the seats OF Messrs Ia
Wis and Harris, ana we're referred 70 the Committee
PRINTING THE MESSAGE AND pocrxxsrs.
The Printing Committee reported in favor Of printing
10000 extra copies OF Presidents message and the accom-
panying documents.
prnArx on THE KANSAS QUESTION
Mr.. Cox, (adm) Of o., said he heartily eopcurrcd with
the views OF the message in almost every sentence ex
eept that part relative 10 Kansas. In his judgment,
contrary TO the opinion Of the President, there
will be peace Kansas be admitted under the
Iecompton constitution. Expedency is dangerous doc
rne when brought contact with principle. There
be peace when the rights the people copardcd
He did not agree with ths old theologan thai In order
be saved, we must be damned Qaughtcr) His pledge
10 his constituents 10 stand on the doctrine Of subms
sion OF the entire constitution 20 the people THIS is OF the
highest and essential 10 self government Il
has la foundation in the Cincinnati platform, in the pres
dents inaugural In Governor Walkers acceptance in the
Presidents letter 10 the Connecticut cergymen In the in
structons he sent TO Governor walker and In hts annual
message All came here record evidence and show the
pledges which have been 10 the people Of Kansas that
they should have the whole constitution submitted 10 them
He would ask the House why the trarous Caalines Of
Kansas should therefore attempt To ssbugae the peoples
viii 10 their Having given these pledges II would
be breach Of faith aud gross dorehc,ion Of duty dis
empt i, carry out the slavery principle and by pretend
ed submission 70 force the constitucO on the unwi
ling people for m any event i could not be
The right OF self government higher and deacr than
ell Cabinets and Presidents There no power,
cording Jefferson and Buchanan Terrtorialfeg
a a
Territorial government Without the OF the pco
ple the constitution would be puirescencc and should
nevs~ be dragged into Congress for grave deberston
Il would be Congressional Intervention In their domestic
affairs Tho people Of the Northwest cared not what be
the result az to kansas domestic institutions ID
vote for her admission A. slave state u the will
az the people be made clearly 10 appear He re
.ferred q what be characterized s frars in .be
appointment Of representatives and mentioned u this
connection example, the Oxford precinct The
etution not republican IN form prohibited altcra-
top amendment until 1854. II there amy change, H
must be by civil war for blood must ever track the steps
Of wrong He earnestly protested against the consu
ton, because WAS AGAINST The principle OF selfgoyern
ment II must be submitted entire TO the approval OF the
whole people In conclusion he notice OF bis inten
t.ou 70 submit proposition 10 take popular vote upon
Mr. Hroaxs fsdm) Of Ind rose 10 express his surwise
regret that the gentleman should hve chosen this
preciptate such debate the House There
are those who believe the administration are trouble,
and that clouds gathering around the democratic par
~. He therefore, humbly conceived that the friends Of
the administration and the members Of the democratic
party should be the nrst 20 sound the alarm There
vas no question before the House whether Kansas
should be admitted free slave State, and hence
the time and occasion for the speech against the
gentleman. II was unexpected, for he believed VIC had
bad been made 70 distinguished Senator's 20.
sitlon, but h might be we'll, perhaps, for that
senator 20 look 20 his laureis and honor.
lie understood Mr. Cox 70 say with emphasss that at the
last Presidential election the people Of Ohio decided that
the constitution of Kansas whatever might be- should
that such would he presented IN Ohio in In
diana The gentleman from Ohio would rccolicc that the
term popular sovereignty not understood TIL after
the Presidential slccton daughter until the decision
IN The Dred Scott not understood Ia all
tons alike and not understood In the in which Mr.
Cox seemed 10 understand a. Perhaps the gentleman
from Ohio does not intend 10 stand by the President II
be ughes found himself compelled 10 separate himself
from the democratic party and ADMINISTRATOR he should
with mem TO the last He should not be the
nrst 20 leave the ship. Where wonld the gentleman
20 carry out the doctrine of popular soveregntyr ~
Mr. Cox replied that be would 30 the platform Of the
Cincinnati Convention fthe Presidents inaugural and
nual message, and his Instructions 10 Governor Walker
he would stand the wreck and would not be driven
of by any little scornfui ind anaaion.
Mr. HrGHkS replied that u was FAR from him TO treat
the question with scoru He looked his argument with
sorrow and regret hut where would he 20 10 get the
popular sovereignty tha, Tie people should vote the
20 enforce the Topeka constuutions--
Mr. Coz (intcrruptnRl-I will not 20 there,
Mr Httss.-The gentleman says, in effect, he will
form party for himself II Is unfortunate that
people are not sufficiently important to built M
party sufficiently humble 10 follow in the footsteps of
one alreedy organized daughter lie wanted gentle
men 81 slow thet hands on this question
The resolution of the Printing Committee adpotcd
also rcsolutsp ~ print coo copies of the financial
rc.yIt 81 lAc S..IgtAry Of the Treasury.