The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1857-08-31
Southern Presbyterian
NEW scHOOL) CONVENTION
[hEpOnrnD ron rnn nIonaosp pllLr prsr,rnH
THIRD DAY-sATURpAY, Auausr ~

MORNING SESSION..
The following resolution, reported from the Bu
siuess Committee. WAS omitted by all reporter,
Saturday, by accident
Resotred. rhat We recommend TO the Presbyte
ries In convention with the New School Genera
Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, to withdraw
from said body.
Hon. W. M. Cooke, of Tenn, moved to appoint ,
committee on credentials. The motion was adopt
ed, and the following gentlemen constituted til,
committee Hon. VIM. Cooke, Rev. DIR. Charles Ii
Read, and Prof A. A. Blair.
Some discussion ensued on the credentials neces
sary for the admission of delegates.
Mr.. j. X. Tucker called for the order of the day
On motion of DR.. Leach, the Convention resolved
itself into committee of the whole-Rev. Mr. Nc
Dearmon in the Chair.
Mr.. Matthews moved to proceed to the considera
tion of the resolutions reported from the Business
Committee. Carried.
On motion of Mr.. Handy, tho resolutions were
taken up seri.lttm.
The first resolution being taken up, Rev. Mr.
Leyburn moved to strike out the words "New
school," as being mere party appellatiou.
Mr.. Boyd said it had been merely inserted fol-
the sake of distinction. -s
Rev. DIR. Converse moved to amend the resolu
Aon, 80 rs to say General Assembly of the Pres
byterian Church, often designated as New School. .
DIR. Leach objected to the insertion of the words
New school, at all He said it did not belong to
the body. and had been applied in asperity, aud
with a sanderous meaning.
The amendment of DIR. Converse was defeated.
Rev. Mr. Leyburn was opposed to the use of the
words "New school" They had been applied t.
the body as stigma, and term of naughty de-
signation.
The resolution to strike out the words "New
School," was adopted.
Rev. Fred. A. Ross-I suppose, then, we are all
Old School now.
On motion of Mr.. Mitchell, the committee of the
whole rose In order corrective new members
Hon. W. Cooke, chairman of the Committee on
Credentials reported the following new members
Hon. S. W. J. Lucky, HoIston Presbytery: Dr. L.
Pope, Mr. A. Rice, Union presbytery: s. IT, Gaines
Kingston; Rufus Britain, New River; n H. Brougl.
ton, Richiand, West Tennessee; Rev A. c. Dickersou,
Rowling Green, Ky; Rev. j. j. Mcmahon. Z. c. How
ard, ". B. Hudson, Jno. M. Vensble, Med r. yenable
Z. Edmund I'd. Shelton, s. l.. Dunton, X. G. Bell,
Hanover Presbytery; Rev. ]. NJ Mclean, Missis.
sippi.
resolution for emitting the examination of the
credentials Of members already sitting, was adopt
cd, and they were admitted
motion allowing the committee of the whole
to sit again was defeated.
Mr.. r X Grattan moved to reconsider the amend
ment striking out the words "New School," i'm the
1rst resolution.
DR.. Ross said that the time honored name. New
School, had been reverenced in Tennessee for sixty
years. lie loved II, AID hoped it would not be
struck out. 1t would appear to the world as if
they were going right over to the Old School. He
honorea that grand old body, but was not prepared
Dr. Leach entered his obiections To tbe mama of
New School.
Mr.. Marshall, of Tenn, favored the Insertion Of,
the words so called" before the name New school
as compromise with those gentlemen who wished
the name struck out. He did not think it a matter
OF very great Importance.
Mr. Leyburn, of Va, thought if the words :.New
School, were left out the world would vet know
to what body the resolution referred. He thought,
1t would be doing injustice to themselves tn ns
name "a tha &c al,
term, and it was surrendering a principle for
which they had contended twenty years
Mr. Shillingford, Of Pa, was here as one OF the
boating members of the church. placed in that Do
sition by the action Of the late General Assembly
lie was here to represent men of piety conserva-
tism and wealth. lie hoped there would be no
technicaiity OF New School or any thing else in
troduced here, the effect of which would be to
weaken the cause at the North
Mr.. Dickinson, OF Ky, moved that il be amended
Az to say 'the Presbyteries sympathising with the
objects of this Convention are invited TO with
draw from their present ecclesiastical relations"
The amendment was adopted.
TIE nrst resolution, as amended, was then taken
up and adopted with few dissenting votes. 1t
reads, q. adopted, follows:
l. Resoited That the Presbyterios sympathising
with the objects of this Convention are invited to
withdraw from their present ecclesiastical rela-
tions.
The second resolution was then taken up 1t
reads as follows:
Resolrfd, That in the Judgment Of this Conven-
tion, nothing can be made the basis for Discipline
In the Presbyterian church, which is not specical-
referred to i'll the constitution as crime or her
eSy.
Rev. Mr. McIain, of Mississippi, offered resolu-
ton, inserting the words ''or mpliedly" after the
word specifically.
DR.. Boyd opposed using the word ''impliedly"
urging Its dangerous character. He said that the
abolitonists of the North had urged that slavery
tsiplted oppression.
Rev. Mr. Rogan, of Tennessee, favored the use OF
the word, as there might be many breaches Of
right which were not named in the constitution.
Mr. Williams, OF Virginia, said it would be as in
cOngruous as light and darkness, truth and error,
to reconcile specification and implication.
DR.. Converse said everything is heresy which
comes in conflict with the bible, as We interpret
that work in our confession Of faith. He felt the
danger ofinserting the word ''impliedly" In 1916,
after two weeks discussion the General Assembly
laid down the doctrine found in the second resoll-
ton, and our experience has taught US that it il
one from which it is dangerous to depart.
Mr. Fletcher, of Virginia, said il the charge of
oppression was brought against member, he
wished to know whether the accuser would have to
specify what character Of oppression. lie did not
refer to slavery or any other question.
MI shilllngtord, OF Pa, opposed the use of the
word 'inpliedly," saying that, with the construc-
tion given it at the North, charges might be
tabled against him whom he returned home, which,
though he was not afraid to meet them, would yet
be llkely to impair his usefulness sympathiser
with this body.
Rev. Mr.. Mitchell said that it was useless to at.
tempt to legisate to please our brethren at the
North. lie thought the action of our fathers in
the Convention Of 1918, declaring slaveholding to
be moral wrong, was an insult to the slavehold.
ers OF the South, and out of that had sprung all
our trouble. He believed crimes are ali included
uEder the specifications in the confession of Faith
Mr. Hogan, OF Tenn, moved that the 2d resolu
ton be indefinitely postponed. >'.'.,
Mr. Morrison, of Mo-, opposed the postponement
as he thought that in this resolution was contain
ed the sist Of all that had split and dismembered
the church. -
The question came up on the motion to postpone
and the motion was lest " 81 8 '''
Ire question then recurred on the amendment
cf Nr. McIain, of Miss, inserting the word i'm
pliedly." The amendment was withdrawn
Mr. Fletcher offered an amendment substituting
the word 'designated' for the words .sspecifiealy
referred ta,' .r~1
The amendment was defeated.
The question then came I'D on the resolution
and 1t was adopted.
The third resolution then came up, and was
adopted without dissenting voice. The following
is the resolution:
Resolved, That the General Assembly of the Pres
byterian Church has no power TO pronoupce sen
tence OF condemnation on lower Jndicatory or on
individuals. for any cause. unless they have bee q
brought before the Assembly in the way prescribed
The fourth resolution came up. The following
is the resolution: '''i =
Ftsossed, THAT the Convention recommend to all
PFgbytegies ia the Presbyterian Church which
are opposed to the agitation Of slavery in the high
est 1udlcatory OF the church, to appoint delegates
In the proportions prescribed by our form of gov
efnment for the appointment of commissioners T.
the Assembly, to meet at Knoxville Tenn on Tn
I'D Thursday in May. 1858 for the purpose ofdrgah
ling General Synod, ander rhe name Of ssThs
United Synod o: the Presbyterian Church in tbs
United States of America. .t ~ .s J
Dr.. Leach moved to strike ont all after the WORD.
1858. and insert the following '"for the purpose
organizing uenetal Assembly of the Presby yterIar
Church South.
Rev. Mr.. Boyd said there had been mach diver
sity of opinion in the committee on this resolution
Some proposed the names of Constitutional Sy
bly, Of the Presbyterian Church South" &C. Ths
committee. however, unanimously agreed on til,
name which they had reported He was utterl,