New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-02-21


BY ,be ChniImsn-Have you ever b I'd any difficulty
win Mr. Gilbert WrDess-So, Sir.
BY the Cbsirusp-Is there sny III feeling between
you in any respect Wr:Des'-No, Sir, net upon my
part, and presume there Is u21n ni'; wish 70
10Y that ] have given in the testimony very reu>
tsntly btceu.e h.ve been comvelied 10 give II; Mr.
Gilbert is my own member; l DO not knoF by what
me ans the Committee have OotSlned TIE information
on which wss subpen ie1.
BY M OIy-Have you ever heard any Member OF
Congress say that hs vote could Dot be- AGAIN pr cured
for any ps:sicular ,um Ct money Wlrie,s-i Do NJ.
len amber t. have bead any u.em3er ssy that.
By Mr. Orr n lVr you eser head a memce- saw
tbst NJ received 81 ucA th.t h. was to receive 50
much in money Cr III lads or any ober vauaoe en-
sdeJsti q pie,ebf tr proep- ctiye! Wrne's-l have
been told BY Me'1btr OF Congres. tbs. he resolved
certain amount bis vote and Iuenee IL the passage
OF the lows Rail Dad bill.
By Mr. On-Wbo was the member Wltness-lhe
Hon. " lillian A. Glbedt
Nv Mr. Ou-Whst was the amount 7 Witness-I
do lot know Whether he received this or not he said
10 me that be received seven square miles OF ano sn1
some little stock; | viii Ielste tia cncums,snces
car not give the Date for do not remember NJ II vas
in warn, we Gather; met somewhere about Four aud
hall street, and went into the store at the corner OF
the avenue, and drank glass OF sofa water We took
seat en- MorrisOn's stoop, think Il was II was lac
in the e, ebing the stores generally closed; the
cODy esaon TUNED upon these mstters he toto me he
had received that punt for his vote; Go mo- recol
lect bow it came up; he and had had good deal OF
cor fdence with each other end must say that hear.
for il was very confidential thing. .,
BY Mr.. On--Did he say anything with reference 10
toe Michigan or Wisconsin bills Witnees-lie did not
By Mr. WaIner-Did he state where the land lay
Wuness-IIe did not; he said 10 NE that he wss put
COW for tDat amount tbiuk that was the expression
By Dir. Wsner-Did he mention any other person
who was engaged with bin WI ness-l think not,
esuecialy by name; there hsve been some general
conversations | do not remember how the converss-
ton originated II was OF course after the passage OF
the Iowa bill We had frequently converted about these
matters; be supposed II would go no further RENE n
Der very DISTINCTLY returning home that rem arked
10 my family thought it very strange that he should
have placed himself In that position.
BY Mr.. Orr-Did MI. Gber, tate TO you IN that
conversation, or in any subsequent conversation, with
whom he made the negotiation Wltness-l will not
swear positively that he gave me the name OF the
party: may have got my impression that he did from
other circu tanc:s my impression s that he told me
he made it with sn ex Member OF Congress from the
State of New. York-Mr. George W. Cha.e: i wish TO
state under oath that there arrangement be-
tween Mr. Gilbert and myself by which was TO re-
ceye anything, or in any way be involved in the mat.
ter; Whatever connection / had with II was entered
into in contden e. matter OF accommod alton tor
the other parties; in no other way than that have
had any interest except what was between the author
and myself.
f. +. {. TRIPLETT, ATTORNEY AND CLAIM
AGENT, on THE STAND
f. r. G.. Trplett sworn-I have been a resident IN
Washington since 1885, am an attorney and claims
agent.
BY Mr.. Ou-Hsve you any information of your own
ledge going TO establish the fat that any Member
OF Congress has, directly or ind recty, received
money land or any other valuable Consideration, for
voting in favor of any Raihosd bills Witness-l
have not do not belong to that body known here as
the lobby and have never had any personal informa-
ton about any of these thrgs, so far rs railroads and
such schemes ue concerned have never been the In
,ument OF anybody else for payment to procure the
rassage of none, ed land bills through Congress;
have never approached any member upon any subject
with an improper proposal
ByMr Orr-Haye you been brought in contact with
any member in that connection Witness-l have; |
suppose there is nobody who knows the org snzstl0n
of Congress who expects TO carry anything through II
merely from love OF justice that Is the general repsa
ton OF Congress.
BY Mr.. O1r-Have you had any conversations or ne
gotiaons with Members of Congress, or VITO Mem,
Der of Congress, In reference TO your DOCK matte.
II co. state all the facts and details IN relation 10 IT,
Witness-I sm almost afraid to make statement IN
reference TO it, for really do not know that could do
jus ice 10 the party and certainly desire not 10 DO IN
lustice to him; II is within our recollection addressing
Mr. on that three four years ago came TO you ana
II sde statement upon which you voted tor resoiu-
ton 10 purchase MY book previous to that time the
Commissioner Of Pensions had requested me 10 prepare
Dig of the laws and decisions IN respect TO pension:
ard bounty lands; prepared the book, aud one Oil
passed Congress for purchase, but through some In
iormality il defeated at the pe session OF Son,
lress attempted again 70 procure the passage OF ou
lnr that object upon fair representation OF the circum
stances aiers hst had determined 10 ABANDON the IL
tempt to procure the passage OF any resolve purchasing
tie book until was informed that mao by the name
of Bennett had stolen NY compilation, ana was
attempting TO obtain the pass 4ge OF resolve
for purchasing his book, which of course was
desirous of defeating; l was urging my friends 70
defeat his purpose and was combining myself 70 mst
alone when received a message from Member OF
Congress that he desired 10 be introduced to me, and 10
see in reference TO this book project OF mime DO
not know that the matter about which he wlhed
10 talk was entioned when received nay introduction;
did see hun aerward and in conversation about hiatt
aud other things am trying TO recolect ths as oc
curred though do no! know as shall be aole 10 give
precisely rs 1t occurred the prolesAs Cae 70 l'e
in about this way; he asked me for what amount
could afford 10 publish the book; made caicu alton,
and stated what amount would satisfy me for the pub
LEGATION Of il; cannot state with certainty Whist thst
amount wac tnffk perhaps il was 81 40 per copy;
think he said be the thing could be got through
and got through Ar better prlce than mad named
told him that was willing 10 take certain sun for
my book and that if it was pat in at higher price,
did not care what became OF the balance OF III pror
to the close of the last session Of Congress gave to
third man. not Member OF Congress al ALL an order or
certain amount Of money pedicated upon the 'uppo-
ston that if the resolution passed purchasing the ooOk
this money TO be paid out of that appropriations
did not care ab inquiirg who was To receive IT or
bat became OF il.
by Mr.. Ou-What was the amount Wituess-I
cannot recoHect.
ByMr. Orr-W.it$li 5OOl Witness Think it wa.
where Id that neig hbornood it predcsed upon
the supposon that copies OF the book were TO be
taken 81 such price, knew from the information
had in reference 10 such matters that could not hope
TO get anything done without the of such means
accented 10 the proposal without attempting TO nvesti-
gate how il was TO come.
BY MI Ritchie-Did the measure pass Witness
No. Sir am sorry that il did not; think il Is very
good book, and that the measure ought 10 pass.
BY Mr.. Ritchie-Wss any resolution offered Wit
ness-No, Sir
By Mr. Or-Do you know Why il not offered
Wiiness-l suppose ii was for the lack of oppor
tunity; | desire 10 ssy that there Was misunder-
| stanoing between this gentleman and myself IS TO the