The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-05-20

souths mpton sailed from Havrs, August -, 1862
uer At the hotel 81 Neholas In New York; his name was
wrsen y part q 90 The entry book q sha. h0ssl
@ Al whose request did yea write W
| 4. Il was Of my own accord
Q who present. A. Mr.. George Harp, Of PhiAdel
Had you any conversation with Carpenter In relation
| 70 In namef-G 30, state when and where? A. had
board ship one evening" his name was NOT The special sab
| ject Of conversation; 1t camo in incidentally.
Q. What did he sayf
| Objected 10. Exception.
A. He said his mothers was De Iaunay; and MAT
occasionally as knew firms took the mothers name
AFTER the fathers and that Of his friends knew him
under that name should know that entry in that book
saw again; exhibit 81 that entry; as to "Orpenter,
| France" wrote 1t; this written September IL.
9 Do you recollect whether Carpenter was present
Mr. Tllou states that Mr. Devoo wishes To make q. sz
PLANTATION OF some part OF this testimony.
| Mr. Busted objects at this stage.
Commissioner allows Mr.. Dc Voc 10 make the explana-
Ell Do Voc, what is the explanation you wish to
makei A. The counsel for the prosecute necs his
question to this subject, perhaps have answered
correctly and that "Was you promised any money
ton as understood from the council Mr. Busteed mean,
by the counsel for the prosecution above, Mr. Busteed
only say now that wasn't promised beforehand any
didn't receive money in the that question was never
asked to my recollection that Is all can say about
| now.
Q Did you receive anyf
objected examination, and not under the privilege
| Emanuel 1ksanaier.-Cross examination by Mr. Bus
| teed resumed and continued
O. On the afternoon Of October IT, and during the So
cond conversation you had with Carpenter who was pre-
sent besides oursef and Carpenterf A. Mr. Mahiessen;
his hands together, and understood aferward he was
| handcufed.
Did you give any order di ection 10 respect to his
foOdi A. gave orders; complained; 1t was on the
second visit; saw him dine; ssid that II was q very
poor dinner it was bread and water, perhaps some milk;
| saw nothing but bread and water; saw the tin box
which was found Sixteenth street. but only at Bemonts,
about by 10 inches; about or inches deep; saw
opened It had handles soldered up; these In
H. papers French bank notes, American French gold
| not much, and jewery; about $500 in French gold;
hall as much in American the bank notes of differ
ent values there was bur 1oOOf notes. 100 the
bundle and 5,000f. or eo0 wire In small bills; there
some letters ana some NOES e
Of ALL and all was put In bag; at arst made special
deposit then ser them to France TO the Directors Of the
Northern Railroad Company, all together letters and all
Mr. Busted applies to cross examine witness in regard
TO other and general matters made before Over
ruled the ground that general cross examination has
| been conducted by Mr.. Townshend Overruled.
| Eli Do Voc, recalled TO recufy his examination.
Objected 10. 1st That he was called this morning Tor
that purpose then exhausted his privilege 3D. That
the Commissioner be against defendant on this point
Voc evidence cannot be called TO sustain him in advance
Sd. Irregular and unusual and calculated TO defeat jus
ce 4b Being against the course Of usage aad practice
| and In violation OF common law Commissioner bound 70
| reject the offer. Objection overruled. Exception.
O. Did you receive any money for your services in this
objected to as leadiDg-excepuOu.
| A. Yes, cir.
O From whom, and what amount, and when, according
| To your best recollection
Objected to-exccption.
A. All the money that received that supposed to
be exus from Mr.. De Angels, four hun
bred dollars think was near the 2bh September, but
| i have a receipt which will settle the date.
O. Have you OF the Mayor 70 receive that
Did you obtain any Official authority 10 receive 1T II
| 30, from hom2
Objected to-sustaned.
O. Did you receive any money for expenser and II So
from whom and when, according 70 your best reooneo
Objected to-exception.
check 70 my order few dsys after goa the "'.ey from
$50 i s SSS remember the amount A. think about
O. Wha, did you do with that money!
Objected to-sui tanned.
Q Did you return any part ofR
Objected to-overruled whereou nrst objection was
O. What did you do with that money! A. spent part
OF Il and returned the balance.
returned about $780, have got the accounts but don
remember the particular amount.
O. II Is understood by the Commissioner that you don
know that you got any extra pay In this case what did
| yeu mean by thap
A. never wished 10 be understood BY any ono that
refused 70 tell that received reward; understood the
bargain with me, and il was answered that had
never previously been offered any thing in that way
LORENZO de Angels sworn-I know all four ofRhc
ed the time met Parrot was In Belrnonts ONCE, pre-
70 his arrest, HAY ". Wi. :.s h s SS
second ward station Eugene they arrested
anc in custody Of The CAPTAIN N. station ,on,s, rns
sec there think saw these coupons (sIhib ~ be-
fore the first time Belmouts Office, on the day that
carried the portfolio from the station house TO Belmouts
once think the scoord day after the arrest Of the two
rees Parrot and Mad Dubad these coupons we're In the
portfolio and think the envelope (exhbit So; there
were from ofty 70 afy-nye coupons remember counting
them and strikes there any four II was some
time In September | first Parrot In Bemcn.s eace; I
| In hayiu
rested have received money myself Tor my services and
have paid 70 others paid Ell De Voc SaSo; CAPTAIN Leo
different umes-nrst $780, next 900 next 800 paid
money for expenses out Of 'hs-ravclne
returned $500 the sum, and tod 70 keep $500 for
myself; wert Boston, then to Philadelphia, then to
South Orange New Jersey next 70 Cincinnati several times
| up on East River, near Hart slaI d, at Hunts Point
Adjourned 70 18Th inst, at III O'Clock.
ARGUMENTS OF COUNSEL.
Mr. spellthorne summed up on the part OF David, and
made an argument generally the French law s spph-
cable TO the case citing great number Of authorities 70
show what constituted in France Tho crimes OF forgery,
burglary and robbery
Mr.. Townshend followed on the part Of Grclct and
Parrot, making full and clear able argument on The law
En- Recorder Tilou followed for the French govern
ment arguing that this case came anae, inc terms o. .he
crime comprehended all manner OF thefs
Mr. Galbrath replied on behalf Of The accused lie sal
be had looked the proceci ngs with considerable
care for the purpose OF endeavorng 10 abrdgs his
argument than from any idea that any material
| point had been omitted by those who had pro-
coded him on the side Of the prisoners. He dc
scribed the case one between the two governments
France and America the parties in interest and most In
umateiy connected with Il being the Northern Railway
Company Of France aud the prisoners Carpenter Grec
Parrot and David. Tho company commenced operations
before 1852 by issuing shares was managed BY
company OF directors, they were called admins
traitors In whose employment were Robert Carpenter
Greet and, for q thort time, Eugene Grelet lnciden
tally connected with the were Parrot and David and
another person named Guern. Robert vas In 1862 cash
Ter, Carpenter sub cashier, and Greles had charge OF
, department Things went on In this way, under the
same management, I'LL 1850 Some time In this period
safe or armore In which the shares were deposited
was repaired, the top having become unfastened
by lis own weight, or by the safe being moved
and two iron clicks or bands were put on y "a
secure H. and which secured ever after
In Mar leba NJ Rohert died Before big deah Guerin