The Tiffin tribune. [volume] (Tiffin, Ohio) 1848-1859, 1857-12-18

/ freedom allowed by The LecomptOn Con.
stitulion 20 The freedom ct The election 10
Paris, whom Louis Napoleon was elected
President The reason assigned why The
people Of Kansas were not allowed to
vote on the acceptance Of the Conslitu-
ton prepared, was that II ihoy had the
chance they would vote u down Nv an
overwhelming. majority. llo lrlieved
they would, and thought that 4 Was a
clear violation Of the organic act thus to
force the obnoxious Constitution upon The
majority.
Mt Biger replied to Mr.. Douglas,
saying the Convention was called accord
ing to law, and had been recognized by
the President and Governor OF tho Ter.
rilory. II was their iight 10 submit tho
Constitution 10 tho people and send il to
Congress without permission, il il was
right IN itself, republican in form, and
tho people had fairly decided the slavery
question. II would not bo wise to keep
them out Of the Union simply because
The whole Constitution had not been sub.
mitted to them 70 do SO would be n-
consistent with tho doctrine Of non-htor.
vinton. Thore was nothing in The past
history Of tho country to justify it. 1t
would be the duty Of Congress to look at
Gle question rs 10 came before them and
do the best they could, looking to The
happiness of the entire country. lie
had long been under the impression IL
would be tho best for tho Union and Kan.
sac that The State should bo admitted at
tho FIRST favorable opportunity, in order
90 l1calizo The strife. Tie would have
preferred that the whole Constitution had
been submitted to the people, but persons
outside tho Territory have no right TO in-
tcrfero with the slavery question there
llo believed the people OF Kansas now
hAvo an opportunity TO decide whether TO
have q free or slave State He could not
however, determine his outire course un-
I'll they shall mako such decision lie
said that The position Of Mr.. Douglas to-
LAY was in uttor dorogation from Cha
which ho occupied when he voted for
Toomb's bill, which proposed 10 make
State Constitution and put t into opera
lion without submitting it to a vote of the
people, and this only short time ago
He could not understand how Mr. Doug
ns hnd SO kindly become sensitive regard
ing the rightof tho peoplo, after having
attempted such nn Infringement upon
hem.
Mr. Douglns--I am certain Mr.. Bielor
lid not speak for tho President, for the
President has just spoken for himself 10
his message IL 10 he condemns the Con
voulon for not submitting the Uonsttu
ton to tic people, and refused TO recon
mend It's reception by Congress. The
President is bold, frank man, and If he
to give us an ADMINISTRATION meas |
ure he would say so. 1t is not respectful |
to assume that wo will do what he will |
not recommend us to do. OF course |
know that the Senator from Pennsylvania
did not speak by authority.
Mr. BgIer--I think / am safe ia say
ing, and think tho Senator from Illinois
viii agree, that the President upholds In
his message the doctrine that The Convon.
tion had right to form Constitution
md submit 10 TO the people for approval. !
/ think &c is deduoiblo from tho message
that the President DOCS not hold thgt be
cauio the entire Consultation is not sub !
mited to the people, Kansas should be- |
kept out OF the Union,
Mr. Douglas--l iulor from tho message
tho Presileut does hold tho Convention
had a rightto forma Constitution and send
IL hero, but chat was only the right to pc
{ ton for redress Of grievances under The
Federal Constitution and not because tho |
Legislature had the power to constitute |
that a legal Convention.
Mr., Bigler-Whcre did YOU get that? !
Dougas-Rcpliod genteman-mean. |
ing Mr.. Tumbull--yostorday read from
speech made by Mr. Buchanan that Con.
gross has TO right to create Convention
o supercsde Territorial Government
and to attempt it would be gross usurpa
.ion. The Democratic party has held that
doctrine ever since, and asserted Il year
,go by endorsing his (Dougas's) report
from The Committo on Torrito,ios. Three
hundred thousand copies Of the report
were circulated as party documents. lie
himself had paid fora hundred thousand
Of them, (Loughicr
Mr. Bigler entered his protest, aud |
claimed under tho statute OF Limitations |
he could not consent that Mr.. Douglas |
should hold the Pc eilent responsible for
laid down twenty years ago |
under entirely dilernt circumstances. -
lt is not half so loag since Mr.. D5ughs |
declared the Nissoali line was tho 6esl
compromise. In 'iS he proposed to cx |
{ nd il 20 the Pacific Ocean, but he now
rnudiated tho whole Of IL.
Mr.. Douglas denied tho right OF Mr. |
Bigler to oacr tho statute Of limitations
Mono but Che authorized attorney Of the
party can thus iutopose The Senator
has deuiod authority to speak for The
President. He cannot Gle that plea.- -
Mr. douglas approved Of the statute oil
Limitations He needed ono very much /
himself He had never boas,ed, no had |
never changed his opinions. He relt ev
cry year little wiser than the year be-.
fore. Has the President ever withdrawn
that opinlong Ho denied tho right 10
plead the statute OF limitations against the
Cincinnati Convention. Until the
Charleston Convention meet, he stood |
now where he stood last year, because he
believed be was right, IL was truo thai
he voted for roombs' bill, aud was ready |