The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-08-11

being NE case, they cannot oondeoend 70 into the
feelings o. ne natives, and TO show that sympathy
MsS4 hoss 's'r s,s 'ns two races In former time,
either OF the East India Company or Of her Ma
lestys government 1t is one Of the changes which
have taken place In the natural and uucoutrolable
course Of events (HeT) But own appears to thAs
We have trusted rather too much 70 IudiAh trsop-aod
Srs an army altogether (He.r hear NY N.Y. risns I hon
orabe isnd think spoke Of 300 900 men. We bave
often bad 2So ooo and The number may nov be
natives would be far better security so far a.
oerned for Indian empire than an army Of
natives. (Hear, hear) In that respect think some
change desirable (Hear But there arc other changes
limited n again THIS evcnipschsnSes in he Wsy Of r
form, In the better administration OF mtce In india in
the Establishment Of better police, and must add I'm
spite Of what has been said by the honorable and learned
gentemsn) In tbe general diffusion OF education
Hear hear Changes Of this kind ought to be prominent
svs!y gov n . o0 bos
more They have been gradually introducing i'm
provemeus and removing causes OF complaint:
own II strikes me that the first matter upon which
the House Of Commons Dug TO pronounce any opinion 10
tnst the Queens govern%sst ought 70 30 supported
ra matters not immedia ely Indian but connected with
the East-,her Chinese and Persian wAs-but there no
question Of these wars at the present time (esr hear
The question this evening the of nda and
do submit to lbs House that ought not to be satisfied
with the grant an inignhcAn paper or de-
raised and placed us, ought TO como to some de-
cision which may Five ,trngA the government in the
asy making ~ns q the .,%s tune we Uuss
which will tend to ameliorate the state Of India and cor
duce to IT. permanent tranquility. (Hear, hear) shall
therefore move (hear, heM)-
That humble address presented her Majesty 10
her Majesty that this Bou will corislly support her
preston OF disturbances in India and 10 any sasares which
be required for the permanent establishment of tran un
dominons (Cheers)
Some expression Of sentiment Of that kind appears 10 me
to be s.s S ssr %Ons1, o. great
should, think interfere in q manner worthy Of ITSELF aud
should show that while we are not appalled, by the peril
Ii earnest desire that her MAjestys subjects la all
parts of her empire shosd live under just and enigh
entd govern ment (Cheers.)
Lord PAIMxRsroN .ad-The right honorable gentlemAn
appears 10 be satsled with his speech myself cannot
pretend 10 answer for the opinions Of other persons bit
must for self say that regret thala gentleman who pos
the talent of the right honorable member for Bucks
and who holds such prominent position In this House and
In the country should have selected moment OF great
difficulty and anxiety TO bring forward this motion my
self shall further into the subject than TO say that
content TO stand upon the speeches Of right honorable
friend the PedeDt Of the Board Of Control and OF the honor
able gentleman the Chairman Of the Court Of Directors, and
leave those two speeches andotes to The speech OF the
into the main question or detain the House by repeating
statements which have already been made, but must
say with regard to one paper moved for By the right no
norabe gentleman-namely, an assumed report from
General Ansonthe right be norable gentleman states that
he has read thai report In Indian paper- only say
that the not In possession Of such
and therefore II 10 lot In their power produce H. (Hear
hear) With regard TO the report made by Sir Nspsr
In 1349 that report does undoubtedly exist The right
hoporao gentleman says that he has read
IT, Now have read every word of II, and say thai
NOT report upon the organization OF the Indian army
but that refers to the Of defence against external
aggression II sets forth precau onary measures 70 guard
against such . contingency, and displays the sagsdy
and knowledge Of Its author; but II u paper the
nature Of which, submit 10 the House, preoludes
its being laid before Parliament (Hear, hear
II does, / admit, contain some passages relat ve
70 the Indian army, but the purpor OF those
b not that which the right honorable gentleman would
lead the House TO anticipate have objection 10 the
production Of the particular extract whch relates 10 the
consnution Of the Indian army; but think, aftsr bal
has beer stated, that the right honorable gentleman will
not be anxious for IT. production. sir admit II b only
right and proper that this House should be called upon
take into their confederation the which have re-
Gently occurred In India and think that my noble friend
the member for London, has Justly estimated the fec
only Of every In this House but Of the people
Of this country and has suggested most proper course
for % 70 pursue (Heax hear am sure that the House
Of Commons will agree, now thai called upon u
discuss the recent unfortunate events In India 70 ADOPT the
terms OF the amendment which hes been moved by my
noble friend. (Heax, hear) am glad that my noble
friend has moved this amendment and that the
House Of Commons ought not 10 separate without vons
the I'd 1ross which he has moved. (aear, hear
The original motion negatved, and Lord ]. Russei
amendment carried without division.