The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-01-22

MI HusTKH remarked that both termini Of the line
were within Briifh domnions, and he would like 70
know what guarantee We would have In time of war
that We could then have the of the line
Mr.; siwARp replied, IL sIpsTec Lot TO hsve been CON
proceeded reasonably there soud ever be- an Interrupt
ton 10 the amcabe relations between two c,uutres
Wren this question nrss this idea presented itself
to his mind and he suggested to the Telegraph Commit
tee that ought 10 be the subject or treaty bet the
United States and Great Britain. We the Presi
dent and Secretary o State for ,hs OF seeing
whether the whole matter could he settled by treaty
TO secure that object, but II that /. would pro
tract negotiations until after the Am OF July, this
account tie papers were returned without action being
taken thereon Now the question what should be
So done upon upon G tins sTGos In:s s'e tsr%n were
was equally true there was no tsrminus GU
this Continent une,s were within the Bri
other side OF the Atlantic. There other
upon which tef graphic wire could be laid tn
and not even certainly known that the I'D could
be transmitted to this dsap ce beneath the This
scientific experiment and the CON pany pre-
pared 70 make IT, If We shall 60 With Great
Britain, which he hoped might happen. I've shouli
Deod 10 have both ermni n possession In order
avail ourselves Of the telegraph, but his notion
that when the teleg raphic once laid there
would be no more war between England and the United
States
Mr. HUNTER should be glad to think that tho millennium
at hand as the Senator from New York sup
posed For his part he should ike to rome substan
al guarantee In the bill by which the United states shall
have the advantages In time Of the British
government u seemed TO hn that the proposition was
which would give Great Britain great superiority in time
OF war
Mr. RusK replied We were not making contract With
Great Britain but vi private c,mpauy. Hos could
make contract 10 guarantee rights TO rs In case We
should 90 TO war with Great Bnaias
Mr. HUN1ER sad the matter be deferred un l this
treaty YVES arranged, and that Was what ought to be
done.
Mr. RusK answered, We could cut the wire in two or
three hours we should 90 to war; but it would be
great means OF preventing war should have such
line OF communication
Mr. CAis of Michigan, hoped ,be matter would be pro
vided for by Inserting In the bi the proviso tnat
money should be expended until We receive assurances
from she Brith government that shall not be cut OF
Mr. PuGH. OF Ohio, offered amend msn that this act
shal rOt take effect until t,ay bas been concluded and
ratified between the goveromnu OF Great Britain aud
the Uni ed States whereby such rtons Of the British
suhmsl Inc telegraph shall have been subjected to the
principle OF neutral zaiion adopted In the convention
lave to Central America, and signed at Washington in
April, 1850 and such otner c,nveuton sup
Elementary thereto may be rau0ed hereafter.
Mr.. Pugh ead this communi oa'iop, IN time Of war,
would ouiy be usecss but a vast deal OF injury
and 10 time OF peace what VIC propos to pay would be
more then the dispatches would amount TO Mr Pagh
argued generally In support Of his amendment, which,
be said n not adopted would render 1t cessary In
OF war to invade Newfoundland take possession OF
that teImn US as 9 matter OF seif defence
Dir SIwARD said haI this does not choose
TO make coLract 1t would Do easy Tor Great Britain
10 advance the who;e amount aud have the entire
troll OF the line in war az In peace If we make the
tract share the control In The time Of peaoe and post
pone or lesser the chsnces Of war
Mr. Hale Of New Hampahre, YVES sorry 10 hear the
chance Of referred to in couns cton with matters OF
this Kind The tame argument would apply against
making appropriations for commercial purposes. II the
British choee TO cut oil their end Of suspension bird
our end OF It would not be worth much (Laughter Hs
did not believe that the Creator put be
always In a sate OF war.
Mr. TOMS. Of Georgia. Cin his seat) said, war Is the
natural state Of man.
Ar HsIE-We are coming TO a sp,ritus state
(larghter) We have byed forty years without having
war with Britain, aud believe not likely TO
In forty years TO come. advocate this proposition
peace not var, mee,ure.
Mr.. Butler. Of q, spoke adversei' to the bill.
Mr. DOUGLAS opposed Dir. Pugh's amendment.
Mr. ToosIs regarded toe bill for toe benefit OF prl
vate sndivifuas rather tnel government
Mr. TouoEY, Of Conn favored the bill, but suggested
smeudn ente.
Without final action, the Senate adjourned