New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1857-01-16

some other conversation which don't think would be
perth ent 10 the inquiry ~ all before entering fnus
defphis, l parted with him; i thiak M. keiY must
have beard much, II not al oar elny ers siioa have
net spoken 10 Mr. Kelly since on The subject nor Dave
aIy recollection Of having bad soy conversation ~ih
Mr. Diekelson since that tune. .
Question by Mr.. ZoicuffeE-Who wer. the hail
dozen correspondents named between you and Mr.
Dick.rson snd what information hsd you - 70 the
ccupeus eaton which would secure their seIyloes who
were be strong usn " Of whom you speak
Arswer-I prefer not 10 answer that questions there
are two At the nun Ter whom recollect; bat uu
les actually eqsired by law prefer not to give their
rsmGs.
The Committee unanimously ordered thst the qaes-
ton be answered.
Of nov conversation with Mr.. Dckerson, Mr. Kin oman,
Mr. McCrse snd Mr. Hsuimani don't think gave
tire names Of as many a. SIX persons LOO mol
the names Of sCy Others sufficiently % s"sa W l
think also-I have the impression-that l named
Thomas Shsnilsnd, bur not certain OF that 81
no IL formation as 70 The pensstion OF these parties
but NV own views of the matter that can remember
of. -
Question by Chairmsc-How much money have you
loaned TO Hartman in The several yess mentioned IN
uevous answer to the best OF your recollection, ana
how much Vf the sums loaned has been returnea 70
you ..oo
or $780, in the last ye or SIX years; DO not recoec'
how much he hes returned II any | have, think,
draft or two drawn by him Newly ork parties which
have been protested remaining in my hands unpaid.
Question by Chaiman-When you promised " 70
reward" Mr.. Smonton and Mr. Hartman, Ito the
"best of your ability If they wold expose the facts
about the Colt pistol patent, what sum IN money or
other compensation did you intend 10 give to each oil
tho e letteI-wn'ers
Answer-I have no distinct idea on my mind as TO
any amount, or as TO money al all; Mr.. Smonion and
biz fsmily and my family sn friendly terms, sud
have visited together; have never paid Mr. SimontOn
a co lar in money l don't think be ever made de-
saId on me for any sum there was no expectation as
know Of on bis part be has often said TO me that he
would take consideration, as he wished TO be en-
tiIey indepe ndent; what he had done, he had done
entirely bis account, and for the benefit OF hs
paper, something 10 thar erect 90 no' PEe'enu W
give his exact words.
ouestion by Chairman-was Mr.. Simonton one of
the let writers referred TO in your conversation with
MI DckersOn one of the persons to be retained al
S2,J0l
Answer-I think he was in my mind when was
conyersing with SIR Dickerson, but cannot be certain
Question by Cbarman-Have you let Smonton have
money draft or note; II so, what was the q mount
Answer-Tbree four weeks ago Mr.. Simontcn
addressed NE letter, asking loan for thirty or
sixty days; | had not the money, bat sent hun my
note, which be returned TO me, and do not now re-
collect whether l him another not the amount
was think 500; had made in a letter--my answer
70 him-allusior 10 my hope or expectation that he
would oppose the patent extensions the Hayward aud
the Colt extensions were the ones on my mndi ne I'M
mediaiey returned me the note, with letter, remind
ING me Of an implied obligation on his part TO oppose
the pater exenrions for consideration, aud refused
rather Indignantly receiving a favor on such terms
assured him in nv answer that such had not been my
intention toward him, and remarked to him that l
honored his feeling in the matter.
Precise Terms.-My idea was that the frst step 10
give any able chance OF success at thar period OF
time, was TO begin TO turn public sentiment al once
and If influential leerwrlters employed we could
not expect TO employ them short of ., $50 spiece
think sugge sed TO him retainer Of so,U in cash TO
each man that Il my impression; that Is what said
substantially; in no other way than that have de-
mar ded of him sis, 600.
Que stion by Mr. Zocoher-Did you propose or intt
mate that this money any portion OF 1t, was to DO
paid to You for disbursement among these writers, or
otherwise!
Answer-I did not suggest that any portion should
come TO m whether il should be paid directly to the
p,rties OF through me- don't remember; my in
pr. ssion is that suggested he could negotiate directly
through them, but am not positive about Il; nov
recollect that he spoke Of NJ. Kingman a. being
their eide as en- old friend OF Mr. Colt il arrange
ment was made, recollect of Mr.. Dckersons saying
he would arrange with Mr.. Kingman.
Question BY Mr. Zollicode-What sum did Mr..
Dckeyson offer TO pay to cause you TO cease your
opposition and to the aid OF your friends to the
Passage of the bill ~ .
ALswer-He offered me the sum OF $40 % contin-
gent upon the passage Of the BILL think that e the
exact sum- | am suie il was as much as slO,OoO; It
u light have been Si2 $40.
TESTIMONY OF L. II. THOMPSON
A General Lobby Agent i have been employed in
siding tie passage of bills for the Minnesota Railroad
the Pacific Railroad, the Wisconsin Railroad, and rail-
roads il my own State lMlchigan; have had nothing
10 o with the Texas debt or tRe Mexican matter;
am the attorney of T. X. Collins Co volunteered
my services to get patent through for Mr. Emmons;
ybiIe the Neb asks bill was up did all In my power
10 d.. feat il also own part OF Moore Haskals pat
emit for which renewal IS nov being applied fer, and
opposed by Cyrus Mccormick, with whom have
been eIdeayoriDg to afecta settlement OF their difficult
ties.
an employed by Mr. Dickerson; | refuse to answer
as 10 terms became il relates 10 my private business
was employed here at Washington the latter part OF
December or the ftt part of January.
Question by Mr.. EliOt-Was your compensation to
be absolute or contingent
Apsver-I have received money from Mr.. Dcker.
con: | expect to receive more il the bill passes.
Question by Mr.. Eliot Have you any objection TO
i iii pa" -'r'D' ''
Ahswer-Certanly have.
Question by Mr.. Ehot-If the bill does not pass do
you expect further comptnsationi
Arswer-l hardly know how to answer the question
if want for my own services, can draw Tor 1t,
Question by Mr. Elot-Do you decline to say
whether there is or Lot any limit TO your right to
draw
Abswer-Tha: refuse to answer
TESTIMONY 81 The HON. GILBERT DIAN.
Those Super Parties. He TeslSts L1fy.-
Apswer-I have been invited more than once to go
into the entertainments OF an evening; attended
once only; no members OF congress oi elthet houeo'
except Mr. CliDgmn and myself were present.
there were a number of ladies', and some gentlemen,
who were generally around Congress-, but not mem
bers of Congress; the subject of Colts patent was
spoken of BY the sdies but not by the gentlemen
il vas the early par. OF this sessions the place was
the National Hole. in the room Of Mr. Dickerson, by
whom | was invited one Of the ladies spoke to
me in favor of the. Colt patent and Dir. Dickerson
iLtelfered and said TO the laoes he knew was OPP
posed to it, and that there no use Of the lsdy en-
csavorDg TO influence me.
TESTIMONY Mr.. BREGA.
Decline, to ansper.-Question by Chalrnan-What
rum or GUMS Of money have been expended or prom
ised-whst amount Of stock has been promised or
lot.or nj