The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1857-02-10


you; he not married bimsei and therefore dad aot
understand IT, and DO not nov. You understood aim
when he made that remark A. understood him.
Q, Now, what did you understand MIN TO refer TO
What inGdely your part did ne refer 70 A. don't
know, unless It was that Mrs. Cunningham had made
Q. OF violating his beds What do you suppose hs
meant 70 assertr A. That had had some improper deal
Q. But could you haver A. No.
Q. must confess there some obscurity about that
Doctor referred to the fact that you bad used bis bed for
the purpose OF procuring abortion uoon the body OF
Mrs Cunningham on that oedS a. No. sir.
@ did not know bu, that you might have made use OF
abortion A. II connection with that that Is
what DR.. Burdell told D. Burde told mo that Mrs
Cunningham charged me violating his bed, aud
also a the time causing abortion; didn't know;
to know something soout the charges that was
COroner-DId he moi mean TO impy that you sspt with
Judge Capron- We asked him that question: he said 90
before
eoroner-wbat do you think be meant
Judge Capron-We will put II In this shape. O. Did he
that you brought = woman into his bed IRON the
any other house and used his bed for purposes
Of your own with some strange woman A. No, sir; I
think he meant that probably something OF the kind was
done.
entered complaint against you 20 him; that you had
used his room for purposes OF your own that the
charge that you think the Doc'or end,d 20 maker A.
think the charge ,bs, the Doctor - think was
done more 10 throw stain upon Than anything elso
for she objected very much TO me.
O. OH Thought he left mis- property In your possessonf
A. Yes.
@. She objectedH A. Yes.
Q. thought you had the care Of bis room A. Yes
@ She was un willing that you should remain here in
her absenceS A. Yes, sir
Q Yes; that must be shat he means and she charged
to The Doctor that had brought improper women 70
his bed In his absence; was that us A. believe So
could not understand 1t exactly.
Q. We'll had you any Difficulty With Mrs.. Cunningham
A. Not personally no, SIR; she wanted to talk 10
something about that kind, aud told her l would have
nothing to say 70 her uues, DE- sardell was present
nol4 nto hARo A n
Q. Won't you state to Do,sor, oil you know that
you remember Mrs canptnTasn ssid to you that
deli told that crcumssanoe he wanted ne to 60 up
and see MIS- Cunningham; did so, and II wss some
vS sbs nS a .os oo % os sbs
say nothing unless sne bad counsel
Q. Wtn did she ever mako AM communication 70 youf
@ Afser thati A After that. and said something
sbou. 1t, and told her ha. YOU'D not have anything
to say 70 her unless DR.. BurdeII was present.
@. Well did you then in fact have anything 10 say
to her about that time' A. No
Q. DID she ssy anything TO yous A. She halleosA
O. What Was that as - you reoolIect, A. think
she hsllooed srme name alter me hte ysach."
g ND you know what shat meants A. wei ishossn'
Q. Well, explsir to us' A. Irswa gentleman sy sAst
O. Well what circumstance did refer 70 In reference
TO that gentiemaap a. do not know.
g Bd you not take an ide. st the times A. Idid not
O Did you subsequently, have vessaton With her
in reference % 70 these s ch:rs:' a No.
reference enc 10 10 ne S Doesers % 4. No. DA'' ''' ~
.. OF no SORT A No.
q. or either OF her daogbtsr6 A. No, Or.
O. Neither OF them A, No.
O. She then, understand you, had any COM
munoaton With you IN reference The Doctor while yos
work In your lsborsory and sho WAS room,
these windows being open you ooud convers tgeher ~
"e oq we're Soa IN one ,s ,oc%s G
say anything TO you aoout her difficulties with the Docoe
N NJ. ,r,.crAo,sx.x dtrs, A No
O. Did the doctor make auy remarks 10 you In
ference 70 what he thought the Vows Of Mrs. Ounn
ham were, VIII ther she wanted him 70 marry her or
O. Did he express you any fear. Of his persons
safety In The house here A No, sir. be did nos
Q At no timer A No.
q nd ,cu occupy ,ha, laboratory Al Tho time s hia
@ Could you get into ,ha, laboratory without. coming
through the 'front.' door, A. No. sb-oh, suppose might
Q Did you usuaily-you came through .hs front door.
Q Did you have keys A. Yes.
Could you always open that door with the key from
%s va. there lock a Ss s Sa his death
upon H. that could be 90 fixed that person having
night , Key could not g., In, A. ~ Yes, SIR
Q Do you know whether II vss usually fastened on
Q Did you 10 jse In the houses A. No, dr.
Q What time Old you leave the house thai day-ns
AZ four u',S o'coeP 10 u. s.rnooss a. 0'iIS. YS
Q Did you return assin that dsys A No.
Q. Not until eish, the nexs morning. A. M until
O. sse In yeur former examination you stated about
eight ocockf A. don't know exactly what time was;
O. AZ tha, time, when you had tho moasy, did tho
Doctor say anything 70 you about hn affairs with Mrs.
O. Hsd Mrs Cunningham, Il any time sinoe the ss.h OF
terms on when occupied sss house whsssr she Was
living here ss sroprssor or q. enaut-anytnins Of The
IA. abe spoken you sbou. the rem. of the prsms
them2 A. Never said anything about H.
Q Dd you rem, from The Doctor or her' A. did nos
q on You Was engaged With the Doctor. A. Yes
q Have you heard her anything about her oAoula
tons with the Doctor sinoe ocsober, for the future
Q Was you notified 70 come homo before you vN
notified OF tho fact Of the murder A. No, sir was
uhed
O. And came hereS A. Yes
q When you came mere who did you nrst see' A.
think w The n,s. M .. v.s Mr. rsrmce coming up Stair,
o. How soon after coming here before you saw any OF
the family, mean the mother and dsushiers A. i did
thai 10 the only cse saw OF the family.
o. During the day9 A. No, SIR.
q Dd yos see Mr. Cunningham during the day A.
Q ETHER Of the elder daughters during the days A.
O. Did you see Mr.. Ecksl, A. Isaw him up in ,hs
room.
Q Asou, whs. time, A. Wen, doerkDow VIVA, time
was; sometime sler toe Coroner had ArHved.
Hew long did you stay here, was n al dayf A.
% ". i dark, "" the s.s ushssd' A. was ssou.
four O'Clock.
q Did you have any o,uversAsion wsh Mr. Ecksi : A.
No.
Q: Did you hear Mr.. Eche, make any remark, A. No,
Did not
Q What vss he employed about, vha, did he do, A.
whenS
o. During that day any time Of The day that you
him while ou were here A. ! saw him come into the
heard that he had been stopped, and wanted
70 out; was told the Coroner that wanted 10 70
ou and his name Was mcntoued and felt little anx-
ious 10 him.
q. You had not known him before7 A. No, sir.
q. He was then under arrest A. Yes sir.
What time did you usually get here In the morning.
bad no particular time Of getting hero-nne ten, or
any time.
q Had you never seen Mr., Eckel before A. had
never seen him before until that morning. there
man standing here sir, (ponunE TO ne distance on)
attending TO some canary birds In the morning, and
heard That that was the man who had the birds, and
judged BY that that that was the was At
tending TO the birds
@ And ron have seen him, bu. had no acquaintance
with him. A. No, sir
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