The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-07-18

made by lis H u colleague (Mr brown He believed
that the negotiations between tine
Ae preseIt moment in a favorable condition. and, he
sure that the Hon gentleman would not wish
the progress Of Iho.e negotiations he Mr. Cheet-
ham, hoped that he would not press his motion.
Mr. j. EwAH said that there among his consti-
suency strong feeling that nothing o. ght be said
done in thar house which would in the slightest degree
interfere with those negotiations for pacific solution of
he difficulties between this country and America which
were he believed bow going on. He therefore heartily
concurred IN the appeal which bis Hon. friends
had addressed 10 the Hon memb.r for Mayo (NIr. G.
Moore
NJ sroosKR said that the feeling against discussion
upon the American question was not confined TO Liver
pool II was very general (''Hear hear and slight
laugh from the opposition benches) NJ. s strongly
deprecated discussion wi ch he thought could do
good, and might do much harm
MI MOORE Il, clined 10 ABORT this suggestion, and
ceeded 70 move by Of Amendment 70 the order the
GLOWING resolution
That the conduct her Maesys government the dae-
that have risen between them and the
ne United states on ne question q enlistment has not emil
He put the very issues he said which had been raised
by lord Clarendon himself Ynd Undertook make IL
elear-arst the traly OF the United States
bad been grossly ana Dc berate violated by persons
acting with the appreciation Of her Maiesty's government
and, secondly that Der hsJestys government had
np8ted and sanctioned the violation OF that law Upon
b. nrst point he insisted and read extracts from tue
rinted paters 70 show that, from drst 10 last,
icatec to him by Lord Clarendon, and had
acted upon tie Interpretation Of the American
NV sanctioned by the Earl II true, he oh.
served that Lord Clarendon had deprecated violation
Of that law bat the whole question he Observer turned
suncton consequent violation Lord Clarendon was
much reslonsble Sir. CHAMPION; and, far from
ms gentleman having been eni1inrd % conceal nothing
from the United states rnmrnt concealment he
tended tue very Key sone Of me whole proceeding.
While Nr CHAMPION was engaged II drawing up memo
TaDta and turaCtns tor agents with hard names and
oad characters, ms secretary, Nc Lumey. giving
explanation - Mr. Marcy calculated oy their duphcity
mysu'y him After trials of the agents,
when tie completely o. Mr. CHAMPION e fully
known TO LORD Clarendon he not only sed not the
.males, osapprobaoa of nj, proceedings ju.ti-
ae.t her "a
BE (Mr htOgc) thUut Lt tho kCsn people could not OBJ
ct ~ the course qken hy the American government or
- the manner ~ IN they h.d yindicatei their
hobof; but bow. he asked, Dad he Nestys government
sndcatoj thelrsy Lord II sreudOn mu>t be permit
Vel. he saa scapcfea Of the government the
people, the crown England
Tie ATTORNEY GENsRAI. ater commenting with some
warmth upon the Indication. ~ r.onal feeling az inst
Lord Clarendon in the speech OF Mr. eoore observed that
his question: involved legal considerations which that
gentleman appeared 70 have gwen little attention. The
government we're charged ne observed IN having IN
frnt ed hrst international as and, secondy, the mu1
cpaaw Of The United states. He joined issue with Nr.
Moore he SAID upon both these points and after snort
exposition Of the former law confirming by reference
the manner N which the American government hal
scted IN relation TO Nicaragua ne applied TO tue facts Of
Me The persons intended 20 be enlisted he 90
served, were Dot Amerc n citizens, IN the proper
sense Of the term, but British subjects who had emf
grated 10 America. ana political refugees from
Europe, and these desired 70 leave the United
States, PROVIDED the Municipal law oi the states
DOT violated they could be received service
without any infracon OF international law. But il
said that met were enlisted American soil which
contrary the "a or the United states This. how
ever, ntendei by the British government
and he asserted was never In fact done the ITuteI
States government did deny that nothing
their municipal law 20 prevent American subjects,
and firm persons who were only qnIsi American
suhjects. enli-tng a foreign beyond the
boundaries Of the state AMI he denied th- authority
Of Mr. Champion AMI the Consuls that any such illegal
enlistment had taken place with the sanction Of the
British authorities. The allegation the sovereign
rights the United states had violated by enisung
subjects Of the United sites at all be disputed, content
ing that the British government we're justified IN accept
ting the services o. the persons in question beyond the
boundaries OF the United States.
Sir r. rHfSlGKs, in considering the POSITION in which
So cd owards America aud what had brought Il,
observed that had received of the strongest
proofs Of dissatisfaction which enc nation could give to
another ane the question was WHITTIER that decided step
was iustnsble y Dot gross and grautous insult had
been offered TO this patton, and was bad that step
been owing the a the Brush and
~ agents. The Attorney General IN MS opinion, hal
Aken very extraordinary and wholly unsound OF
international law which had unfortunately been adopt
ed by Mr.. CHAMPION and endorsed by lord Clarendon.
Sir Frederick commended that any attempt evade the
municipal law OF country contrary the spirit u
International law, and that the encng and persuading
persons 10 leave the country TO enlist in a foreign legion
which evasion Of their neutrality i~ Of ISIS,
breach o. the sovereign rights 81 the United States. II
bad been said that the American government were
aware from The earliest period that depot had been
formed AZ Halifax, and that proceedings taking place
for the purpose Of obtaining recruits but he did not
believe that they were distinctly sware 0; the facts AID
be pointed what he considered - be indications o!
cree, regsrniI the enlistment which b. thought
strong proofs that the parties knew that their proceed
inxs Mere Illegal Even the replies Lord Clarendon 10
the complaints and demands OF expap atoms made by
what he termed the bold assertion by Lord Ga
rcndm ~ claim which the American government could
Dot .onceac ana insisted that we bad thereby driven
that government INTO position which rendered ALSO
tey cessary " take steps 20 vndcae their sovereign
rights and 70 repudiaie principle deemed by them
erroneous. bet which Lon Clarendon had maintained
high tone. II her Maiestys government, he observed
N conclusion, Dot justified in the candestae aud
scheme they had foot and carried for
The purpose u evadlng tile neutrality the Gated
5tates the dismissal OK Minister perfectly gnt
on The part of the American government aud must
~ an an rs
ne acts ~ our tic would vote fcr the restitution
Mr. >. PniNoRE observed, VITA reference % The Close
dSr H. 1hesigers speech that there part 0t puo
NJ better asccrined than tina, any state which hal
pretence 10 Independence had right % nsist upon tue
The recall 81 an ambas-alor. The iaw u the Cnftei
Sates therein differing from the English Jaw aiiowel the
enlistment Of Anne ieau subjects IN foreign service tile
contract not made on American soil and be insisted
that All Jri Carendons directions from the beginning
had been, Take infringe the lag q the Enfed
STATE !" The Arguments upCn which the question
vested were hfst any wrong W done Il SAs without
The sahcton - encouragement q lord Clarendon sec nd
ne only evidence shica ib0Sct that any offence nai
BEEN committed utterly worthless
M Baum considered that TIE honor of The country
bad beer COMPROMISED, not "a account = ne a.
miaea uf our NlDlster. but because ue C0uiuct
Of that Minister had been vind,catesi and justt
sod BY her Nacsty's government Tue charge
against NJ Cramptun BE- observed VA that o. giving
sanction the sedacng ~ subjects from
their aier ance aluring them foreign service
wbsh b. contcnded uJ-n the authority vaitel and
stber pubhtist-, very grave offence against tie
laws ~ nations and H. Insisted that Mr. Champion epud
Ma b. ignorant 0f the acts ~ British agents winch
amounted nfracuon Of the law Mr. Cram .ton
bad ecnea that De bad ever hired ~ retained men within
the uutcd stes bit 70 one bad accused him q doug
Tie instructions " Mr.. CramTs0n. however, were
m h oTsnor written for the express purpose u evaing
tie hiciral law q the United states The aw ~ "a
tDns he ma g,d. had been violated by the p tsh
government Prussia Switzerland and the Hanse towns
bot their rcmonstrauces treated very differently
frou those ~ The United States.
~ q. GmN-i shall occupy only short portion o. the
nme ~ the House but feel s-sry " make some
reuHrks upon the speech which has Just been aevcred
" difficult o. ascertain what Il the prcee aatnre of The
charge whah honorable gentlemen opposite Btenn -
prefer against The government The honorable gentle
man, the membSr ior Mayo has moved resolution on
hp question: AFTER resolution the subject bad been
abandoned given up BY The honorable gentleman the
member for nyenesshire from OF regard
Or The public interest and with that party
with which be scts The honorable member COR Mayo
hss shown clearly that he has but eudeavor
ashonor and deprecae the character ~ lord Clarendon
which stands high the Europe 10 We