The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-06-05

And nov While having al the stigma sttAsbsd 70 ssresy
Sbsy derived benefit d al nom IT. The rsDoRtsrs
Asss aid present eoxrsct Of Inc proceedings Of
Nhs body. He ssAed Mr. OOrson 70 withdraw his subg
tuts.
M. CorsoD declined
~ rHAcARA, Of N J., had no objection 70 this ooun.
Ell ssrg with open doors, the ugh HIS 0wD feeling
.Ssinst IT, But what he sssircus discuss the
sesoD Of the prcpriey Of sboshing secsesy the
Whole organization He hoped that they voulo nrst b
properly organized and that they would not discuss ths
point open Council He made the point Of ordsr that
this discussion, open Council, out Of order.
Mr. OcRsos asserted that that exactly she point Of
Ssssr be had raised, or Intend I'd 10 raise.
The PREpSar decided that this Gcur Gil guided BY
the precedent Of me last NssosaI Convention which sat
with open doors.
M cossos trusted that the senteman nom New Jsr-
~y would ns,st on his point OF order. The Council
not IN secret but pubic session, and it she gen.
SemAD from New jersey would not appeal from the Do
CARTON Of the chair, he lMr. CO. would
NJ 1RACEAA did appeal.
NJ 7. WOOD surprised 3. the gentleman from
Chic tAr warrsn) stating tbA. This might BE- he last
Council Of he national American party. be did not
ksew whether the gentleman spoke for the State Of Ohio
Sst he would say tina. before toe conservative party Of
New YORK struck it's tag it would nave fought great
and glorious struggle.
The PRESIDENT declared discussion out OF order while
sbs appeal pencng and STAYED the grounds Of his
ssst decision After the pass word hsd been eommuni
e. yesterday the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr MAJ
sAsl had moved dispense with ,be pass word and the
sentinel 1t the door Reeoecting The action Of the Ast
Geunsl at Philadelphia, he tthe pres,denO had de-
soed that hey it.ing with open doors untt the
setior u the Council should be determined. The qaes-
should the decision Of the CnAr stsnd - the
ys5gm ent OF the Counci2
VI. rAcs1RA stated the aroun,s OF bis appeal. lie
the of the Lee phia invention
have affected that body only and TO have no effect what
the order.
IxlEGArE assed have the minutes Of the Conyen-
zsn uD'ca ordered The opening Of he doors read.
The FkRrDFsr stated that when he arrived 10 Philsdel
rhis be icano the Convention sittIg with doors,
and re hse no ccgnizAnce CT the circumstances watch
Nd to The soohtion Of sec.esy.
tn molten, TIE appeal vas laid on the table; and
abe oeeisieD Of the Presto ent was soetained.
The question recuTred hr. corsoo's Substitute TO
NJ. MafslaIrs notion
ANOTHER DELEGATE moved substitute for the origi-
nal MOTION snd substitute that the ,s-ouors sdopsed
Al the sst Phisdepais Convention DO declared the voice
VI tnis Council
InBGArs inquired whether the Phadel PIT. platform
had not pucIatec.
rbe president denied that such vas he Gaze.
The CnAlR deciced hat PROPOSITION suggested
merely reterativs Of the action Of he last CJrysn
teot 10 abolish AL secrecy.
The PIIrEST interrupted by listire that he motion
With The word and sentinel, and rnss debate must
le confined TO inst. He said tna. the National Co.nc
TIE ssss topnss saoud ssSs Ss pVses
Ct ebolfhing secrecy, IL they thought proper.
That national eoaIel sat virtually with oosn doors.
When be (he Pres,dent) got there he found TIE doors
open lie did net exactly by aA. scton that
arrived a.. Mr.. Msrshabs pr ,si 400 that the
oCupe dispense with the ys word and sentinel a. the
door al the delegate from Nes York dad mo7ei 80 .
Substitute that tue President. and Ssce appointed
! oonmitt.e 10 pnbhsa be procsectucs
TE-I an mpve thEr I'M he int tn Mr.
harshslps motion Be indefinitely Postponed, and then
called the pTev1ons qoestion.
Mr.. MARSHALL inquired under whs. rules they we're
acting,
The PKYsTpESr-Tbe constitution of TIE Order.
NJ MARSHALL meant 10 The rules Of tDs debate. Tho
nCtscn Of the gentleman would pos-pone the whole
sutjec., and be q sort OF tso &c Sc. Osuga er.)
N (Ar I'd proposition had been offered yesterday on
spur Of the moment, cispsnse With tbs wschwor
becaOse he thought and desired hat the proceed ngs
should b public Mr. Uncer vood had .nen introduced
sSopot itop broader IN its scope than his own, inst all
ressesy should be dispeces With He had accepted hat
hat suse j. eomported With his sentiments and opn
iors Hut Afterwards he understood Mr.. Under
withdraw It. He did not understand bow his parry
aid present itself TO the country as national party
aAees j. was perfectly HON cgeueous n 81 its parts rne
Kentucky. vas SIMPLY absprd. they IN Kentucky
ecnstanty injured by the secresy OF the party in New
YoIs. He mad been used 80 speak on the stump.
and 70 tell every thing he knew soout his party,
4AI. TBAcKARA rose 10 question Of order Be suo-
nhted that the gentleman from Kentuky was travelling
eutside the quesnon.
M. MARsHAM replied tina. the g'nteuan from New
Jersey had nis,own mode OF discussion and 90 hal be
(Ay. MArahsl) BE thosgo. lie md light 70 proceed
,he OF his remarks. WHAT ne Of hay
ing their council chamber cobed, If before the people
tbey told everything they said, and proclaimed their
pgineiplee on the nouse.ops2 What mlmnsry that IL
Hhe American peepe found them With one set OF prin
eisIes M their hands and another 10 their council
chambers they would discard them and ought to dis
sAYc them. The people jealous; and II it
Ssusd 90: that they before the pablo protesting
bs no At6e n line to measure the indignation of ths
people for party who would say one thing IN public
ana practice Q different thing in their council chamber
he wanted the reporters to put that remark out - The
sounry They were no longer IN their swacoing cothes
He wanted the party 10 be presented as broad open
yuhic party He referred 70 the resolution adopted a.
Philadelphia That expressed his wish, and they should
tAsorbe on their books resolution passed BY this
Coanel Nobody objected TO a secret session whenever
secret session WAS desirable 1t had been proclaimed
the newspapers Kentucky that whoever and
gss paper that ne subscribss 10 their pasfor n be-
scnes, 20 iEstdate, a Of the American party
Gould they wish, he SAID 20 belong TO party where
they had no oa.hs obligA'iops-wnere the members
hon Nav York Rhode Island are bound by their
time honcred, but musy oaths and obligations Of
srceJ2 They had got platform and must stand cy IT,
place him fthe candidAte) up in connection with the
Draeipee Of secresy was to put him IN false positio
n there wss any state Council which desired 20 keep
eben procsedir secret lett II orm ts own bylaws or
~ government and its management; but let il
b clearly Understood that secresy not essential 10
American. tile not essential 20 democracy that
An th.t was necessary was Tor man 70
be in favor Of the .h-se great proportions tns7
70 ruie Anne rica that there should Sc union between
0huych and State and that foreign influence should
be tolerated We're they affad 20 proclaim those
thsir principles in their Own county 4 the, were
afraid, then such Americana sd they would not rule
America daughter Secresy excitss the susp'eion Of
the oosntry he was not wiling 20 come into Council
sham Der ard De bound 10y an oath when me nsn ait
tms him only bound by his honor simple
pRosaise He did not wish to act delegate pledged
- these prime pies with others wno might cone In With
CREDENTIALS belonging TO another and hostile orvsni
2st5on. He could De at the tims American
and o republican. He might well have hin
pa nted white the side and black the other
Nlscn Of Massachusetts, took the obligations OF this
order and yet be sdered that he had the right TO
throw them aside moment pursue them, sccord
ing the construction that he gave thew It was bet
TOR them TO out right at and say 70 the
people "Here principles, here Ia our man, and |
invite tho people Who In our Convictions TO A.
socAte with u.s." (Applause) We sre likely TO be on
BY charters. The people Of this country havs one
great sher and one great seattle constitution OF the
Omitted Stses sealed With the wisdom which constructed
that charter. appliance they knew nov many there