The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-10-07

Scrptursl proofs either by denying that they were
Scripture at all, or, il they were So according TO the
record, saying that 1t was within the legitimate pro-
vince and conscience, reason and
ment 70 reject all such passages a. spur0uD or not
emaDatiDg from God, the same being In express con-
tradiction of his attributes Of JUSTICE holiness and be-
Dev0lence In this connection, Mr.. Parker instanced
many cases In the Scriptures where God u repre-
batbarities and crimes, at which humanity shuddered
and revolted, all which he rejected on the same
principle that ne did all Scriptural testimony and
authority in favor Of slavery. Ny reply was that
We perhaps did not fully or clearly understand but
which resolved in and by the sovereignty Of God,
and that finite should not impiously Judge the In
finite He then re-asserted that God was expressly
represented in the Old Testament a. sanctioning i'm
we're convinced of that. (which was not) should
reject the whole Bible, and not do, e. they did, just
select what parts pleased to believe, and what to
reject. In other words they both held themselves
judgment, to reject all Biblical teachings, as apocry
pha unreasonable which did not square with their
own fanstical and sefrghteous doctrines and views
Finding such to be their position, refused, when
the subject was required to by Mr.. Garrison, to
argue the scrpturai lawfuness Of slavery any far
ther, with persons who rejected the authority Of the
Bible.
Mr Garrison was occasionally harsh and severe
but was told ne was more than usually temperate
in his discussion with me. He expressly charged
me- (asrepresenting the South suppose With fraud
and robbery, both Of the slave and himself repre-
senting the North, suppoee,) in compelling him,
through our abominable and Improbable system of
save labor, to pay much higher price for Southern
ataples, than they could be produced and obtained
for, under system of free labor, which 1t was our
pressive and fraudulent system, contrary alike to
humanity and the eternal principles Of justice.
/ retorted by charging iDsincenty and ny
p0crisy on him and his associates, in the abolition
moveYnent-telling them that they were, In fact,
the supporters and encouragers Of domestic slavery
in the South by their consumption Of Southern sta
pies and products-thst, were they in earnest, they
would cease to consume our cotton, rice and sugar;
ard were they to give this decisive manifestation Of
their sincerity slavery in the Southern States would
die natural death in q very short time. This ar
gument Mr.. Parker attempted most sophistically to
answer, as fOllOws:-"I am ne more responsible for
or supporter Of Southern slavery, by my purchase
and consumption Of Southern cotton, rice and
sugar, than | am responsible for and supporter Of
Russian serfd0m and oppression, by my purchase
and consumption of Russian hemp. My reply to
this was that the cases were not anaogous-that
Russian serfdom and oppression depended not on
the culture consumption OF hemp for its existence
or coptinuance-that, were hemp not,consumed ct
ALL blotted from the list of agricultural products
this would not abate or influence Russian oppression,
or serdom, one j0t or title, especially among apeo
pie, who, like the Russians, were in love with OPP
preston and Rugged their chains, and held loyalty
to their imperial oppressor to be a part OF their
Teligion-adding that, as for serfdom, it had been
greatly modified and was fast disappearing from
Russia, in spite of the hemp culture. Between
Southern staples and Southern slavery the other
hand, there was an intimate connection and de-
pendence, and neither could exist without the
other.
then carried the war into the enemys coun-
try-aye, even to the very gates of Carthage
by exposing the insncerity and hypocrisy, of the
abolitionists in practically denying, while theore.
social rights to the black and colored race and in
sisted that consistency bound them to send black
and coored legislators to Congress and their State
Legislatures, to cothe them with the ermine of JUS
tce and TO place in their hands the executive baton
and other political Offices and distinctions; and fur
thermore, to permit them 10 lead their daughters
and sisters partners, down both the dance Of the
ballroom and the dance Of life Turning then point
edly TO the female portion Of my auditory, said:
Ladies, are any OF you prepared to receive
black colored persons, your partners in
matrimory and for life ~ To this Mr.. Garrison
tarty rejoined that such marriages would bear IA
voraDle comparison with the Illicit connexions,
formed in the South between the two races; and |
responded: "Sir, decline to discuss that question
with you, in this presence" Mr.. Parker then said:
81 suppose none of the ladies' present. were they at
liberty, would be willing to accept black colored
husbands but neither would any Of them accept, for
a husband, a man OF eighty years." i replied that,
for obvious reasons, there was no analogy in the
cares.
fully explained to Mr.. Garrison and Mr..
meliorations that Southern slavery and Southern
slavery legislation had undergone since colonial
days-adyerting particularly TO the substitution and
actual enforcement Of the deathpenaty for murder
ing slave, in place Of the pecuniary mulct, under
colonial legislation for the same offence, the cheer
ing progress oil missionary effort and Christianity
among Southern slaves, and the improved humanity
Of their treatment, together with the kindly and az
fact att NJ bot
ern master ard his slaves On these heads gene
nerally, found Mr.. Parker disposed TO be liberal,
but Mr.. Garrison. while avowing his entire sympathy
with and credence Of the piteous and often false
or exaggerated tales OF fugitive slaves, was exceed
ngy hard OF belief and sceptical as TO the truth Of
my statements, not on the OF my veracty, but
on the ground that | was interested witness,
whose testimony ought to be rejected, seemingly in
total forgetuness that his ebony pets were liable 70
be turned oct of court on precisely the same excep
ton. brought attention 70 the fact that Southern
ers made much kinder masters than Northern men
or foreigners, who bad been accustomed to free la
Dor and its terribly exacting requsitions; and ex'
planned this on the double principle that the North.
erner or foreigner wanted the sentiment OF heredi
tary or customary attachment TO the slave, which
the native born Southerner, and was
impatient Of the small amount OF labor to be obain
ed from the slaye, In comparison with that which
they were wont to wiring from the hands and the
sweat OF the free laborer also casually mentioned,
as pertinent to the discussion that the SEN
tlmeDts OF imported NortnernerS were often mis-
takenly seized upon by Northern writers and speak
ers, "a an index OF Southern feeling and opinions.
For instance, Mrs. Stowe In copying into her Key
10 Uncle Toms Cabin from the Charleston Is. CD
Ccurier, my report Of the trial Of lady Of wealth
md highly respectable family, for the alleged MUIR
Der OF her slave, (which resulted In her acquittaD
had disregarded the allimportant fact that we had
sxpupeed from statute book, In South Carolina,
he colonial muct for slave-murder, and substituted
Tor IL the deathpenalty, which was ACTUALLY en-
oIced In the winter spring Of 1858, on two white
men, at marlborough, near Charleston, for killing,
with wanton cruelty and shocking barbarity, =
poor runaway slave, whom they 30 dis6gured and
manged that he could not be identified, and both
his name and that Of his owner were and still are
and cites the speech Of the late Col
BENJAMIN Faneuil Hunt. Zone Of the greatest jury
awyers In his day and generation in defence Of the
prisoner, oondemning the new and extolng the old
aw, as proof Of south Carolina sentiment. Now,
Col. Hunt was Northern man, born In Massachu.
'etts, bore the honored name Of Faneul, one OF
his ancestors, and wss nearly an adult when he
,ettled in Charleston, as student OF law The die
Inguished Petigru, a native OF South Carolina,
ret tn his pre-ennence at the Charleston bar, the
colleague ard associate Of Col. Hunt In their sue
l~for 90 he baV