The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-10-07

which am entirely ind,b eu 1, tho resea en- and
accurate statistical knosiofVe Of ar Parker,
speaks volumes OF the good trea ment and physical
comfort OF the Southern slave
MT. harrison differed entir-.S on these points
from MI. Parker, and did sdmt the calpability
ofthe North, or the mitigation % southern c,nplic
~ IN slavery, at least to he extern allowed Oy Mr.
1arkef, and denounced the y stem o. slavery, as
world. What said |, "worse tAan under the RO
man empire. in which the master could at will put
his slaves 10 death!' de ihereGp0n corrected him
Self ard said, 1.-The worst " modern 81 ies 4
Some conversation ensred between Mr Parker
and myself as to the ALLEGED hybrid character OF
mulatt0es, and their inltiity 81 perpetuate their
kind, as nnlattoes, by coutinloas utermarriages or
marrying IN aud III, as il u termed He mentioned
nsfaDcts oil three geDeiai ns 81 sash HulaGt0es at
the North; but admitts d that he, like myself, was
only on the inquiry as 10 ihl~ point.
then opened another feed ot discussion, and con.
tended that Northern interference aad aggression
hai retarded instead OF at, ancng emancipation in
the South: had strengthened the institution and
welded The South t0g, ther niaa IN its support
and deence; that Mary hand anu Delaware had, az one
time, nearly left the Sout .eIn fold but were now
back again where toey were brt0le a. members of
the Southern flock or tan that Virginia in 1882,
had entertained the quest :, - the abolition of sla
very in her State Convention or legislature the
Richmond EaGuusT, nhdef NJ htehle and the Rich
mond Whig, under M Plyasan,s, weing with each
other Id denouncing slavery II curse to Virginia,
and In clam0ring for its ahOl iaa ana the measure
having narrowly escaped -cce ,s-bat that coat OF
tar and feathers would prob bly, await the man
in Virginia who should vent IRE 20 ew the propo-
slnon; that Kentucky, de pie the eman ipation
pr0chyites OF Mr.. Clay, 20 lar rs his own Safe was
concerned (but not to the planaon Sta es for he
held domestic slavery 10 be their unaIterabe inherit
ance so lar ~ human agency went) and Of her Ohio
border had tenaciousy adhered to the syte and
cast her lot now and forever, vi h her sister slave
holding States; and that Missrii although With but
10000 or $4,000 slaves in a populad)n of 100000
or 500 600 souls, was so resoute IN the maintenance
fhn tpQfrf f,ftn vxAf, 10
the charge of border ruff insm ia its defence nd
propsgation that all this rnythening of the
slave power, by rendering the saveholiino itates
unit in sentiment and IA action, was due 20 The out
side pressure against and foreign inJerfe with
Southern slavery that the pride I'd passions Of the
SontL had been now reused ia Science Of an inst-
tuition, interviewer with their Il strings, and ident
fed with their homes aud their hearth,tones with
their Penates and their Lares-,.nd they would
never Yield it but with their he arts blood aud
their YES /; that NOrhera interference had
also iDduced Southerners to PROBE the ques-
lion and philosophy OF slavery to ITS profoundest
depths, and to discover that 1t was defcnsible and
justifable, both on economical and S;riptural
grounds; and that the latter ground it was as i'm
pregnable as the rock o. Gibraltar or the rock of
truth-ot divDely inspired and t,yinely sanctioned
truth: that, Whereas the system was once general
ly held in the South TO be an evil and d Sin, and
was gradually getting undermined, az least in the
Southern border States from causes working with
in Themselves, it was now no longer regarded
evil any farther than free lab Is regardei as
an evil, (both Of them, however in Gods prov-
dence, full Of compensatons and the former much
more so than the lattcr or as sin, in any respect;
but on the contrary conform bile to the revealed
will OF God, and as a part OF the divine plan to
ehect the great purpose o. subduDg the wilderness
OF America to the p1rpoaes OF civilization, and per-
haps, ultimately Of accom- psbing the reflex action
OF civiliZing and Outstanding barbarous and be-
nighted africa: that, 80 long as there was abo-
litlon interference, from abroad, or outside Of the
saveholdiDg States themselves the Institution be-
ri
well understood principles OF human nature,
among which is that OF d0irg nothing on COM
pulsion; that | myself, in ea,y youth. had been
i'll at the subject OF the awfuness of slave.
ry, and well remembered that, while student in the
South Carolina College in the year 1919 or 1890 bad
commenced debate, in college society, with these
words:-"That slavery is a6 evil, entailed on by
ancestors, is universally ad nj ted; but that my
opinions had long since Undergone entire revolu-
don, and my conscience vas wholly at ease on the
subject. now regarded Il as not -hort OF impiety
and profanity 10 call that SIN. when Jehovah Ordain
ed and patriarchs practsed and which Christ and his
apostles sanctioned and regulated: and that, f0rths
change and revolution, IN Southern sentiment and
opinion, we were indebted to the aboltonists, and
perhaps more to Messrs Garrison ana Parker than
TO any other two men living.
Here Mr.. Garrison and Mr.. Parker both said that
] should then thank, rather THAI denounce them
for their course | answered, OF a surety did
thank them, not for the motive, but for the unde-
signed result Of their interference.
Mr.. Garrison then remarked that, nevertheless, II
he should go South he would certainly be mobbed
or tarred and feathered. | told hun he certainly
would and especially il he attempted to intame the
passions OF our slaves, excite their discomfort by
the propagation among them Of his views. Not
that |, or The gentlemen OF Chireston, would be
party 10 such proceedings aga,n-t him, as dsap-
proved Of Lynch law in any aud every form; but
that there In every community class of citizens
constituting the material OF the 200, (although less
so in Southern than in Northern eities-the peacea
BILE and orderly negro popu alton, In great measure
filing up, in the Souih, the space occupied by the
white mob population OF the NORTH which could not
be controlled, except perhaps by the in'erPosition
of the miitary-which candidly adaitted woald
not be turned out in favor OF one In such Ill odor
with the South as himself.
Mr. Garrison next took up the subject Of freedom
OF discussion, and our denial 10 our slaves OF the
ern or Southern man would be allowed to
discuss the question OF slavery IN the
Southern States. In reply, | proceeded to
explain that any one might freely discuss the ques'
ton In the South, with white people; bat that no
one would he allowed publicly, or with our slaves, TO
enter into discussions OF such chara ter or Ia such
manner, at such time, or with such auditors, as
might tend TO disturb the peace Of Southern society,
by whetting the knife Of the murderer or lighting
the torch OF the ncendiary otherwise stirring up
pedtion and mischief, in class now contented and
orderly and ranking asthe best led and best clothed,
and physically the most comfortable ana morally and
merriest peasantry and laboring population In the
world: No more than would be allowed, unmolested,
TO make my appearance Among numerous gather
ing of laboring Irshmen at the North, engaged on
one of the great Northern public works, and 70
preach up practical agrarianism, sedfion and priyy
Conspiracy among them, 20 tho injury and spoation
of private property and the disturb ince Of the pub
lie peace The answer to this was, that my case
was an indispensable one: and, we're II even sup
possible would still be free to speaka very insult
Acient answer Think rs the case quite supposable,
and not in itself improbable, on the part Of some
one in this era Of crazy and ischievous "isms'-
and do not believe freedom Of speech would be per-
mtted At the North, in such case, except II were
believed that IL would he 81 pr6ferea nihii.
Surely, II practical violence were apprehended AZ
the result Of such liberty RIGHTEOUSNESS Of speech,
the police Of either Boston or New York would ar
rest and nip the mischief IN the bud, BY the prompt
est and most active intcrfetence.
As 90 Southern laws against allowing slaves TO
read and rite, stated that 1 knew them TO be a
dead letter in South Carolina, land Mr.. lawson said
they were 30 likewise in Alabama,) aud believed
them 70 be 10 in the entire South and that. In South
Carolina. many leading men were IN fsvor-as ]
H.. L. Frart, AZ fxtn