New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1856-12-03
N, BROWN thanked the President for Ms fidelity

NJ, BROWN thanked the President for Ms fidelity
in sounding the voice Of war ing against sectional
strife ard took occaaon 10 cnsrse .oe :uPpvse" o.
Fremont with the in'eution of abo, hing Si'v"rv
ever where and in this cnnlecon alluded TO The views
Of Messs Sew ard and Wilson. He then spoke rep
robsfin Of Mr. Spocners bcok, copy OF snico oad
been sen, him, with request thai ne noua 'e''e"
hi. lSpoorer y opinion the subject al slavery:
Mr. Hal repeats d be had never met al inni'iddH
Who adv coated the doctrine that Congress bad the
power 70 sbolsh Slavery in the southern states
There were no doubt such persons, but their nu n
kers spd influence were very small. We hso
10 douh; the language used relative 10 the Abolition o.
Slavery everywhere contemplated is abolition by the
consent of those States in which IT existed ava nor
thr, psh ary insunectionayy movement
Mr.. SEWARD did not know to which of his speeches
Mr.. Brown alluded but what he had ssId on tue SUB
jet of Slavery had not been SUI IN ac,rner. lie
presumed reference was mace to speech he male ID
lsiS, in Cleveland Ohio, in favor o. the election 0;
Zachary Taylor STAKEHOLDER to the office Of Pres-
dent But whether Mr. Brown referred to that speech
or rot he would remark that his speeches had bseo
gathered together and published by Mr.. Retheid OF
New York and the Senator could find his opinions
pressed there fully. So far q he was Concerned, be
willing those issues imperecty settled now should
be leff open till 1860 for the people TO determine.
Mr. MASON said constant agitation upon the subject
Of Slavery had brought the people of the South to the
conviction that the preservation Of that institution
rested with themselves and they alone As Of the
representatives Of the South he desired to he took
DO further interest in II, in any opinion which
entertained at the North in relation 10 It. than as he en-
teItain the finn and decided hope that ID. M
public mt Mt yet remaining at the North which
ready to unite With the South In the desire to perpetuate
the Union end by the aid Of that public sentiment
in the North be believed the Union would be pre-
served but furtser than that, as statesman, or
az ole respf nding for one OF the Southern Ststes
where that institution prev sed the public senten,
at the North was TO him matter of indifference,
whether those who desire to continue the Slsvery ag
tatien erdeavor 10 exercise their powers in interfering
it'll wherever il existed 10 the United States OF en
"a. Il.
was recognized by the Constitution existing
social institution snd lot only protected by the
cuty berg imposed on the Government 10 render tug-
tves up TO their masters but was made an element of
political power in representation That being so, the
.ople where it existed had the same right to its egt
mate expaL sion that they had to its peaceabe enjoy
m.nt within their own borders. To endeavor TO re.
strict this expansion to trench upon their rights In
violation of the spirit of the Constitution.
Mr. WILSON stated that he had never entertained
ror expressed the opinion that Congress had the p,wes
to abosh Slavery within the States, nor had he ever
uttered the sentiment that thcse with whom he acted
ever intended to aSsume or exercise such power he
had read Mr. SRooners book but dlssenIed from IT,
he Free States who conceded with Mr. Spooner in
opinion, and they had voted for Gerrt Smith tor
President. How many votes that gentleman received
he could not tell but probsbly not two thousaad
in all the Free States. The PORTIONS assumed by the
supporters Of Col Fremont were entirely different:
Mr.. BROWN cOntt nded 1t was not the duty OF the
South to endure patiently the aggressions OF the North
Though long for eariog and unwilling to do anything
TO sever the Union OF these States yet there was
p, int where forbearance ceased TO be virtue, and
where their selirespect required them 10 ueehu onu
Mr.. TRUMBULL remarked that when Senators said
that he and bis friends wished to interfere with the
rights of the States, they imputed 70 them tnat 10
was us such remarks they had listened to from the
Senator from Mississippi Mr. Brown that were alien.
aling one section Of the Union from the other. Did
the Senator wish the North to interfere with the ns
tntions a the South and fasten the Northern people
sentiments which they disavow everywhere and on all
occasions This Message contains most unwarrant-
able assertion this fact for the President under
toe to soy that the Missouri act of 1877 was obsolete
and unconstitutional Where did he get the authority
f. r the assertion The Supreme Court OF the United
States declared with regard TO the power Of the Federal
and State Governments con- bned-
MI CASS, nerIupting1l never heard e i Of IT: 81
te,ss Report and read from page 546 In the opinion
pronounced by Judge Marshall in the case Of the
American Insurance Company against Canta, the SEN
fence: In egislating for them the Terrtories Con-
gree ext rcsts the confined power Of the General
90 and State Governments"
Mr.. CASS-It asserts no p0w.r.
Mr.. TRUMBULL inquired whether there were not
sufficient power therein to keep slavery out Oh INC
Mr.. CASS responded-No, unless the power was
found in The CoDstituti, IN.
Mr. TRUMBULL iDsi.ted thst the power was broad
cha COnRreSS IofIlerIy eXeICiSeu IL, ana
was a new discovery to say that Congress did not
possess il now In abiding to remark of Mr.. Mason
that if the Republican party had executed what they
avowed, it would have led to dissolution of the
Union, immediate ard eternal Mr.. Trumbull said the
Republicans had avowed principles excepting those
declared by Jefferson, Washington and Monroe Was
it any cause for dissolution of the Union that any
particular man elected President The Senator
from Virginia did not contend for that Neither Mr..
Fremont, nor any other person. could be elected eI.
cept in constitutional mode and II so elected, would
il be cause for dissolution Of the Union II So the
Constitution contained within itself the elements Of de
struction 1t was baseless assumption of the Presi
dent and of Senator'S to attribute to the great Repub
lican party hostility to the rights Of the States or in
sttuiion Of Slavery in any State though they declare
the right of Congress to prohibit Slavery In territory
Of the United States.
Without the question being aiken on printing, the
Senate then adjourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
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