The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-03-04

given NJ. Champion 1t may be said that he was told
was told enlist in the United States because to
tell 70 70 break the and in the rest breath
10 Tell him to do something by which the new will be
broken, is nugatory II is :arce-an idle direction
not worthy OF any man who p-etends TO be man Of
sense and honor. Mr.. Cramptan knew ese law ~ is
proved by his own written sta ements he knew that 10
90 certain acts TO break the law and he laid
by which be fanc.ed that Law could safely be broken
lie aided in this by two high fuDctonarissSr Gas
psrd lie Merchant and Sir Edmund Head, as well - by
sir Joseph Howe gentleman Of celebrity in Nova
Scotia. Sir Joseph Howe sent 10 the United States
by his intervention people were tpoyed TO break the
law Of the States and by his HANDS they were paid Tor
doing After spending about hundred thousand dol
lars he 60. together two hundred men, when he mgnt
have had tie same number of thousands for half the
money may be asked what good expect TO derive from
this motion ministerial cheers perfectly well under
stand that cheer know whence proceeds anc what It
and my IL that wish to obtain from the
noble lord distinct answer to this quesuon-was Mr.
Champion instI ucted simply not to break the law,
but do deeds by which the law would be broken
wsh further to draw forth an expression OF opinion on
ne part the Of this House which shall show
he people Of America that sre no parties 70 these dis
honorAbe proceedings. Opposition shesrs) l want
This House the part Of the people OF this country TO
sy 10 cur bre hren the water thai ympsthze
With them, that rejoice in all their greatness and
good erirne that running with them the race OF
brethren and not as enemies that we de-
sire the good Of human y and that would work IL ont
with their aid, but that feel that with Anne
ricA would retard the advanceU emit Of mankind for
tulies and that with any part OF Europe would
sink into nsgnifcance compared with it, do not like TO
Plea my inefciercy but still cannot help wishing
that powerful person had undertaken this
stropgy enlisted in II. that feel advocating the
rights Of humanity when am endeavoring 20 lay bare
vernment in regard 10 the Amer IAN people. The hon
and learned gentleman concluded By moving thSt copy
Of Mr.. Crsmpton's instructions be laid on the table
Mr. BADylflD seeonded the motion
man who has made this motion began by reproducing and
condemning her Majesty's government for having
asth ar aH Wit Aua
Queens speech or laid on the table OF this House The
especially connected with the ec to which he
has called the stteation of the House.
Mr. RoEBUcK-I beg the noble lords pardon. did not
End Any fsul. with the government simply pointed
out that they had NOT done what said.
LORD PAIMERSToN's REPLY.
The honorable and learned gentleman an glad to find
draws ds,nc ion between assertion OF what the gov
eminent did do, and condemnation OF them for not
doing Il. he is very much in the habit OF anima9verng
what the COVE ument does not do. and trust the
House Wi understand for the future that when the no
noras and learned gentleman recites the omissions of The
government he does not mean any censure thereby
TAugher) must remind the House that the American
government cid not think tit to lay before Congress the
dence relati " this question, and the same
reasons which induced the American government 70
withheld the correspondence in the present state OF the
matter the which induced her Majesty 5
government to pursue that Hear, hsar.) !
staec upon sOrmtr occasion that her Massys govern
ment had thought until few days before the meeting
OF Parliament, that they would have been in condition
70 lay that correspondence before Parliament but tina;
either the day preceding two days before the com
encement Of the session, the American Minister at this
court 10 noble friend At the head Of the Foreign
Office long despatch, containing great variety Of state
and ions touching the conduct OF me- Mes
tvs Minister st Wsehir gton and her Malasys Consu's
nd statements impossible for the COVE nnen to
rely without referring TO the parties themselves 10 Know
in what degree they were accurate. Hear, haar)
faie then that this made it mpossibeto answer that
despatch, and that, on the one hand we could not
give the correspondence without ar answer to that des
patch So the other hand it equally impossible
for TO give il with that important despatch entirely
emitted II WAS the reason Why her Msjestys govern
could not sy the correspondence before Parliament
and that also the why declined 70 enter into
detailed discussion OF the question That STATE OF things
still remains. We have not yet receiver the ,on
cradle and learned gentleman is awa-e tina. note
tans demand for toe recall a. Minister at washing
and for the recall OF Consus and to snand of
such gravity and importance It would De uobecoming for
her Majesys Minister'S to reply, either way the
ether until they had accurately sscertsired the founda
lion On which y was mace; Hear, hesr;) The same
then wonld Of course make equally duty TO refuse
give toem pecemeal in the proposed by the
peat now tina. tina; very short time viii eIspse
before shall be in condition to lay the whole OF that
pcGoence before this House, and it viii then
ase judge wfe.her her Asjestys government and its
officers in The United have done that which ought
TO expose them is whether, the other
hand their conduct has been such as to enttie them
TO receive lis support therefore cannot folaw the
snd learned gentleman through those details
into vhich he has entered All say IT, that it
rnent hat nothing should be done which saoud be
rance with the laws Of the United States Hesr The
honorable and learned gentleman says that giving sfor.
nation 70 persons who might be willing TO go 10 our
vnces that they would there be enlisted II found fit,
hat the Offering any pdueement TO leave the United
States, violation Of their municipal law Sir, the
United States is not the empire of Russs Ciita
est. The Cnited Sdtes Is free country like our
and uolid not impose upon any man he slightest resrdT
(Cheers.) win not argue question which will be
properly examined when the papers without which
would be TO enter upon it. before the
House; but this win say, that during the course Of
these transactions offers repeatedly made to her
kaestys oces in the United States by persons whose
sole object was to entrsp them INTO somethior
lstion Of the municipal law OF the States. Hear,
hear conspiracy got up for the purpose ofentrap
prg sne Iisieseirg then and inducing them TO DO that
which might afterwards be fastened upon them VIC
tion Of the national laws. As to the trial which has
been referred 10, think that when the details made
public tie House will be disposed attach to the
statements which were upon 70 much importance
has been given to them the hon ,rabe and learned
member. The honorable aud earned member says that
and treachsrous The truth of that assertion
utterly deny. (Cheers) ] utterly and entirely deny
that we made 'hst apology, intending to continue the
sisctior. Sir. had given directions that these pro-
seedlings. which might give umbrage TO the United States
sIould be ascontinued. The assertion made in the
last despatch from the American government is that,
after these directions we're given, and after the
PLANTATION was rendered, some Of thsse proceedings
&c be ascertained. II such the the proceed
rigs clearly against the intentions and without
the Knowles e Of the British government Cheers
repeat that that explanation. that statement o. orders
revoked tia. expression Of reer s-not regret, the
honorable and learned gentleman says THAI the laws Of
the United States had been violated because did not
believe that such vocation had oc.urred-but regret
that nything should have occurred which could be
Sered BY the American government to amount to such
violaion-pas reoetcd By The american Minister al this
Court lc1h oppression has part Of belit tkat IL
scoad Dc deeed sattyaory ty his government As proof
that such was his belief | may mention that he some
time afterwards received despatch directing hin to
make second remembrance and that he put that
despatch into his pocket and absaiued from communi
eating it TO this government because he believed that
the Communication which he had previously forwarded 10
bis government would be deemed satisfactory (Caeer
Sir forced 10 make these statements, ptemsturey
perhaps because they belong part of the question
which cannot be fully explanedby the extraordinary
iuct of the hon. ana learned member Cheers The fact
hen L. that considerable time after Communications
that had discontinued these proceedings, and
pressing regret II anything had happened which
contrary TO the laws Of the United States the
government rsopened the question: and stands IN
he undetermined position which have desartSed. Tn
Ter such circumstances it really is very disait for
erson in situation to deal with an honorable member
Who pareues such the honorable and learned
aw NJ psaI noI has oIp aA He