The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-06-16

81 TIE PREsIDENCY.
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| The Talk In the Astor House ExehaMGe.
There was lively time among the anti Fillmore dele
sates at the Aston House, during Friday and Saturday
they assembled in the vestbuse and did most Of theiI
talking there the ample corridors Of the hotel the
barroom only visited occasionally by some weah
brother, who did sympathise with the ant.hquoI
principles Of the majority and who believed old Aouon
gahela be good American drink and much superior
70 the foreign French stun so much in vogue.
Among the parties most active among the delegates on
Friday, were Thurlow Weed, Edwin D. Morgan, Z. C.
spauldine, Jos. W. Blunt Preston King, and other
Noted niger worshipping politicians; Chas Riddle. John
Sllcox, Daniel Willis, and other active city repub
hcans also button hong and talking sweet 70 the
hard shell Americans from he rural DISTRICTS 70 induce
them 70 hold over their nomination until the Philadelphia
Convention met.
On Saturday another and different class made their
appearance Live Oak George with his Of friends,
was present; also Horace H. Day, c. Edwards Lester,
Rev. D. K. Graham and others.
Thurlow Weed exceedingly active but never spoke
to Than person at me and then always out pf
earshot Of any one else.
Morgan Blunt and King tried to manage two or three
once and were exceedingly busy deferena and good
natured.
sIn tell you what SIR" exclaimed Of group, ~
was sent here an American, not As . republican,
and that my first consideration In Westchester
y, where hail FROM have always found the republican
as much opposed 10 the Americans the demo
Gratis. for the Assembly last fall and laid out
cold by coalition between the parties, and could
face my constituents If should 60 for republican, like
Fremont, without being assured Of his Amercanism"
'Now, see here responded Massachusetts, outsider,
f put up either Banks Gardner on The ticket for
Vice President we can carry all New England easy
THAT'S co." 'That's the tak, !" "That's what Ben
nett wants TO do" exclaimed several in the group
and The doubling would-be Assemblyman had 10 cease
80 earnest were the arguments Of his opponent
It's my frm belief that this Convention will
end in split Fremont is forced down our
threats without any assurance Of his Ameri-
canism," said one Of another group. 1--WE refused
TO endorse Fillmore because it not known that he
was attached to the Order and We 70 Fremont bndf
No The Massachusetts delegates say their constituents
cans have been sold out 70 the black republicans Nor
will the Connecticut New Jersey delegations submit TO
the proposition made this morning for fusion. Those
three States were sent here 10 nominate and nominate
they wil.''
.Thcm's rmy sentiments" rejoined New Jersey
proved good American. Commodore Stockton is my
first choice and to my mind he's the strongest cord
You're right there" chimed in another; sthere are
hurrah points about Stockton to 60 before the peo
pie than any other living man His naval history is ex
Ceedngy brilliant and dashing."
Many Of the Know Nothing delegates were evi
IDENTIFY afraid Of their constituents. 1t charged that
the New York delegation bogus affair having been
appointed by State Council that had not over forty
bers The Connecticut and New Jersey DELEGATIONS are
the same that attended the Know Nothing Convention
held in this city on the 9th inst
say, said Connecticut delegate, ''did you observe
that the Herald had report Of the conversations that
say II would be good joke the reporter was around
now and heard u.s."
"By the way, the HERALD is doing immensely Of
good II Fremont is nominated and elected it will be be
cause Of Benefits He has indicated the true po
hey Tor us 70 pursue, and we're laundering fools we
Iwonder what the editor of the HERALD is aer2 said
another. 'Ny impression is that il is only newspaper
trick He wishes TO astonsh people SO as TO sell his
pers"
shrewd, sagacous man. and how the wind is about
10 The commercial men all leaving the South,
and their New York organs, q few years ago strongly
conservative, now, with single exception, anti
slavery The fact is, UNFOLDING slavery won't pay any
longer"
though has varied in its support Of men, has always ad
yocaed the same political views and is honest enough
nasty, and Of anxious for coalition of all the
elements that oppose IT. he's neither getting anti slavery
or dishonest-he is simply polite"
g What do you think Of Fremonts chances" asked
another, .'f nominatedf'
why, everything depends on Pennsylvania. Every
vote in the South will be cast for Buchanan and if he
gets Pennsylvania il will give him 147 votes-wthin two
Of election think myself damned nonsense to talk
of Banks. New England is sure enough for the cause
Ex-Governor johnson should be the manor Mayor Con-
"Yes, yes; Conrad would do for Vice President. II
would be good joke TO employ Forrest TO play his Jack
Cade,' as a stump speech, all over the country
And so the crowd kept discussing Fremont's availa.
split, and the prorriey of having any platform at all,
until the hour for dinner arrived which being eaten the
delegates started for the Apollo Rooms and the outsiders
to plot and canvass all over the city.
Jo Blunt was particularly active in butonholng and
the old dodge Of being little doubtful about
prety Of nominating Fremont, in order 10 draw out
doubling country brother Not few were quite
indignant at the availability doctrine and declared that
they wanted TO vote for principle and stand by their old
favores and not run after new gods like Fremont Sc
ward their
On Saturday the excitement at its highest pitch
The Fremont men anxious and bewdered at the in
formal vote taken in the morning. and the Massachusetts,
delegates swearing awfuly at the vote for Banks
whom they oppose and denounce TO man. alleging that
he sold them to the black republicans.
The Fillmore men made their appearance during the
day and filed the undecided countrymen with all kinds
OF doubts respecting Fremonts Americanism.
Now, here" said one Of them, isnt true that
when Fremont ran away with OLD Tom Bentons daughter
be was married by Catholic priest and isn't it also true
that he las two daughters now educating at nunneryp
We'll, that wouldn't make him against us = said
satisfactory Of his Amercanism and go for
him.
An old fory Senator from Pennsylvania delegate de-
cared that the Presbyterans would for Fremont
would the old line wings who polled fourth of the
vote Of the State Mclean their and he could beat
Buchanan In the city OF Pttsburg, where ne resided
he did not know three who would go Fremont
Eating cakes made Of grasshoppers was no recommended
for a Presidential candidate for them. They wanted
q sensible nominee
f" Bah' said a New Yorker good sense is the last
thing people vote for Neither Harrison Taylor had
any brains and nobody suspected Polk or Pierce Of
having any. Van Buren,, Clay and Cass had all been
beaten by inferior men man must be either not known
take the masses, who are never over wise Fremons
the man.
And so the talk continued throughout the day
last night there several caucuses held. The New
England at the Howard House. and several Of
the State delegations the Aston House The programme
indicated in yesterdays HERALD is still the same. The
time will be consumed in fruitless debate until Tuesday,
when joint nomination with the republicans will he
made.
SUNDAY AMONG THE POLITICIANS IN THE ASTON
HOUSE.
Tie delegates TO the Convention are beginning to thin
out and there probably will not be hundred