The daily union., 1856-12-18


NJ orr AID | wish to understand the gentleman ;
for the ae made TO me sonev hat singular
MIR IL MARSHALL said that would not give the
toss of copper choice be- astn the Wmo proyisclsm
OF Mr. Fremont and the eqcatter-sFVeBuy doctrine OF
the northern democracy.
Mr. ORR. Am 20 understand that the gentleman, In
the last presidential contest did not the us oil cop
per whether the democratic or the repAOilan parry Wes
SUCCESSFUL
Mr. IL MARSHALL If The gentleman u not astute
enough draw distinction between remash IN regard
my general policy and IN eietenee 10 parsieuar
pos uon, then cannot expect him 10 understand me- !
refer the gentleman 20 the c1nuexion in which nas tho
remark on which no comments, ! was speaking q the
practical consequences OF the construction leerrcd 70 ana
said that they the same 10 ms whether We bad me
Wilmot provso or squatier sorsrdgny. II vas 70 DC
huug, would not care whether II was with reps or
srape vine. ILaugher1 u both views lake away iron!
me y constitutional rights IL makes d eence whether
The deprivation be sudden, or slow bur certain.
y Mr. ORR Did the gentleman feel 30 Interest ia tho
presidential just closed between the democratic
and the republican party
Mr. H. MARSHALL / Ibelieve that the republican party
only presented the distinctive feature OF the "imot pro-
yo the slavery Question: ana that II did not present
any administrative question.
Mr. STANTON. Il presented she question q the Paclhc
railroad
Mr. H. MARSHALL. The fact is, that did not examine
the platform Of the republican party very closely and fu
Iy stopped at the threshold. Learning their dosrins
OF congressional TO prohibit slavery IN the Terrific
ries knew that had nothing to do wdh them and in
regard to the Cincinnat platform found self as In
days gone by, with all my anagouism to the Democrat
party. With reference to one thing, never did know
whether there any platform on IL or not alude to
the foreign policy Of the country Sometimes i WAS said
that the resolutions that subject were part OF the plat
FORM and at others that IL made tte difference how men
felt about them. nts asss s
Mr.. ORR The gentleman replies to my question with
good deal Of qualification. haye no doubt that II Is
my obtnseness which prevents me from clearly seeing what
is his answer. Let ask him another question. What
would have been his position IL Mr. Fillmore had been out
Of the way2 Or fit evident that Mr. Fillmore could
not be elected by which party the democraiic or repuh.
5orc bat pf
be subserved2
MI H. MARSHALL. never contemplated that propo-
son as alt'sys knew he wonld be in M the way aud
what there is of US, we always viii kesp IN the way
Mr.. ORR. Not much ii the way in November last. The
gentlemen twled for having 10 few democrats on the
floor as hardly TO be able to speas for ,ne party Daa
supposed that ueh suggestion wonI haye ca ed up 10
ger temans mind tue most unpleasant remiuscenfes
1t is that the democratic members who usual sMst
this side OF the House were reduced Ia numbers IN
There then of Auericansn, know -nol,ia.-
ism which SWEPT the country, and which brought my
friend FROM Kentucky into this House Bnt he did not
ride that very far When the organization OF The
House demanded the election OF Speaker he found thai
uness he cut himself loose from thoss with wbom he had
eetsd previously he would be carried 70 position from
which there would be rescue in the iaure $40 h.
aud his cosd uots that the country s indebted sr tho
paucy Of members Of tire aeneerac psrty ana DO - HE
Last thai sAoud refer TO that ,ae when he CONSIDERS
hesudden and disastrous termination Of ms coalition MitL
the northern know -nothngs. ta
Mr II MARSHALL With the gentlemsh Vermisslon
will state iust here dat have had cea.ioa With any
body Outside Of he American par,y-pure aqd siui%e
Mr. ORR | ottght TO have used the xord ahiatiou.
Mr. H. MARSHALL. Nor affiatiou. During the con-
les, ter speakerahp this Congre was voted for Sur
or five timas Afterwards for lhe sentemap from
Penns, vaaia M FULLER but until after he had
ae6ued his position this very question: and when that
definition lost bin; the votes Of his own colleague Who
believed in the power Of Congres TO exclude slavery cm
Territories
Mr. ORR do not find any fdnlt with the geutlemans
action after be here Ny point this When he nnd
gentlemen Of the opposite side OF the House we're elected on
TIA ~ he
associates i'm the North, instead OF five When he came
here be found he could agree with them and severed
the conntxoh He found that his convictions OF duty
would not allow him 70 stay with them aoy longer de
refused to vote for the candidate presented by the great
bulk Of the know-nohing American party ~ the North
Mr. II. MARSHALL. II did not vote for any OF the
eighty men the gentleman refers 10, because OF their
opinon on the slavery question would coclnrnd my
example TO hs imitation and advise him TO get rid OF
northern democrats who are not sound on that question
Mr.. ORR THERE'S fable gedrsmen well recolec', Of
the fox who lest his tniL refer 10 IL without intending
offence This fox went about saying that y was iasnon
able 10 do without tails and that all the other foxes bad
better cut theirs off Bat they did not dc y ILaaghterJ
The gentemans northern associations were suddenly Ter
minated and he tries TO persuade th- country that All
either parties at tho North faitbess 10 unfolding the
constitution as the know-nothog or American party
proved itself 10 be- The gentleman found that his ana
lions il that quarter had reauled disas'rousy. i.
NJ VI. MARSHALL. desire to say that knowing the
party OF the gentleman as do bs fable has no ~.
pcaiion 70 them they otpays run t0ose iney VIII
TO examine the copoiiion OF ther us lhe
newed laughter. 60 -,e, :.
have no doub, my friend from Kentucky LON tne eape-
rience be has had IN his State during the rsnt Can
vass has ascertained.
Mr. Speake perhaps some allowance ought TO be made
for my friends exhibition this morning He has evidently
been suffering from some acerhiy OF temper Well s,
losers have always the privilege OF being gumbrs and
my friend has SEEN for the fret time Ia twenty years the
power which hiss held iron sway over the State from
which be comes broken up "Tbe scepre has departed
from Judah Yes sir Kentucky the daughter OF virginia
and ally the mother has a last placed herself IA
her proper position She has ranged herself under ,he
democratic banner This circumstance have 90 doubt
has rufed exceedingly the smsbity Of my friend from
Kentucky have idea that he has any kindly feelings
towards the democratic party that he could any
merit in any Of thc OF that party II 70 ri present
sore spot But sir 4 Is 10 be hoped that time, which
cures oil our cares nna troues and which alone cure
the feelings Of my honorable friend and that he viii 10 the
course Of few months be sbe 10 command sufficient phi
losophy TO submit the destiny which has hcen written
for his party ia the State Of Kentucky
Mr. n. MARSHALL. There Is no necessity for pro-
nouucing any funeral Grafton upon The DEMOCRACY
has possible show in my section Of the couniry,
Mr. ORR IL is always the dictate Of wisdom to erect
hescons 70 mark the place Of wreck and my friend from
Kentucky large enongh to make beautiful beacon
The unwary 10 the State OF Kentucky. IIaughier
Mr. n. MARSHALL That beacon will always be kept
shining BY those who have lighted II heretofore Renew
Mr. ORR. have said all that desired 10 say and
close with single remark Let my honorable friend from
Kentucky understand and let him take IL home with
him and make what he may Ct when he comes to
make another Speech that there is difference Of opinion
10 the democratic party 70 the proper construction Of the
Nebraska bill upon the doctrine OF squssr Eovereigpy
Let him make the most OF It,