The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-05-18

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Mr. UAYToN-I have a word more to gay In references
otcre MADE full expanaton Of the snb;eat Of tina Ist
ter referred to NV Mr. C~mnon 4, ths Santa ana
tsrred N nv ths Senator Src,, htah
tborzea him or snyhoSv siss a. Sr. srsh an
did draw rom ths letter indeed air IN III,
tion 10 hch.J sirdsc ana ,hich to1 ni.ce =, hs nra
sence Of INV trend fro, KsntncSv nsrfcnarlv nrssd
Mr. Crnmpttn upon :that oue.ton TO know vnsther he
had avar sntho,,ysd .nv one ~ s.v th.s had a.
mittsd that Prsfan vas Rritisb nosssssion And
ont Of tie t1s.tv Hs urou.Iaadi, ~ nndsrs God
S S;, VI .Io "ssay. ne 1nquAn' 49, .rx .~cS
statement Sir II Won look hack 70 the HISTORY Of what
actually occurred YOU viii see thx 1t must have been
MINATED To me- Ia hts letter of the 3st of March last
pav;ous 10 tia wear 1883 never saw him to
lin hin, IN the snbisct when I left Washnrton h.
July 1850 few DAYS after the treaty Sir Il Buiver
yss ths R,it,sb Minstsr-not Mr. Cram pton The onIv
atops between him and me- ON this subject os.
curysd In ISh3 ana aftarvaras vhs he VAS the Rtis
Nipisar and after arrived in Washi
in 1883 n ade speech on he trea,y such as have
eatsd then nlncsa the ii Ia In sliys on the
msnt of fact then not settled hut vhch
VAS AFT ervsres settled nv Examination aoaioat thu p
tish claim. addressed the Senate at length again in
snuarv 1854 AZ tbe senator from MiahiOan IMr CHssl
win web recolect upon this sulisot to proye thai
Rcstan could not possibly be depend enoy Of Belize
that Great Britain had title q, Roatnn nave
ofterEas of:en as the subject has been debated he
denied tho Rritisb title Than air aftsr ali ths
dscara,ions and laborea efforts on INV mart here IN
the Senate from tine to time TO prove that it was i'm
nossibls that Roat.n could he awfnl Ri III, nosses
sion while constantly in rubic was declaring the 70.
verse IN ecervions es IL n To hs vas sscretv
admitting to him that Koatan vas such British possess
sion and exempt from the treaty Of 1892 1t win appear
bere.t of reason No man in his senes coming TO the
Senate and day after day. making speech ster speech
10 prove directly the reverse OF what MI Orampson con
'snes ,0T can &C oeieveo 20 IAe, ~ Ing sae 1No az
mtI.d wnAt Mr.. Tramp on slaes 70 oe True. gar os,
,enee sRap ,. tese Az a aas .s S s
oe ronnai ms pan ahgasgs OF ,ne rsAy ena ot
july, looo ~ he very noent Vi INC OK 'nsnee Vi Is
cations All previous letters on either side are az Sl
ing to bniiolng, which must De taken away rnen
me eslnee = conpEseo; inA' - compese
ait;s anu o'e"he ats,rps h;,h bsue
p,lilui iAttno9os ano suptefiuses ~nion nsvs
ueen u Gsh oe iI as'I ;e 49, mS xn
erus6es sli the lidlcuoIs inisrenoes mace nom
Sn a. - Dawer pr 1sls "a h,t
British lsano and 81 subsequent Inventions 70 ooter
upa pesvsisien OF tne tresy Dy psrole ev,asnce OF
what said or any other man SAID before or after the
deed was executed am willing to place the most char
Iao.e construction on ms m'stsxe cAnnot possioiy 90
count or II In any o'nsr Wy thnn ms nc mas neafo "
repeated py me mat II fosean snonio prove geograpni
csy not 70 oe one OF tue francs 20 wnAt wHs
calico the viceroyaty OF Guatemsis 1oui1 Do wSoone
.ne treaty Sna 60 1oo Vas one Q, tne sms Msnos
oesgna'eo IN the tea,J OF lioo' when ne
his it belonged to Great Britain can appeal to
u t senator s ,~sr nat
IA oeoale VIE me on inns SUBJECT, 70 Sonnrm wnat
lave s'a.ec - am sure no wi psaec.y reSoeos .ne
oiscusftns 10 wmcn nave aaSer.eo' ana tn0 impress
clutter OF larger islands, and cluster Of islets TOTS
cluster OF sets Is or atsd tne 1eay wncn nave
neior Ie.a treaty England ana Spain In LOO
lin which they are thus described
The English nation shall enjoy the liberty Of re6tng their
merchant in the southern triangle ncuted between me
point OF .a'o Oasns ana ne 'nstsr on Small nhas wncn
cns,s az he ~ vht rom The riysr VANS
nom Cayo Cafina three from the river Siooon
This little cluster Of irlets Is some twelve fourteen
lesoues think from Bsize and thew have been known
as srendences CT Belize The other islands are in the
s.a Ia f.o1 IN VI RsH,a sor ~ 49, ~
the dstanc the ACCOUNTS offer do not know The dis
Pns sax.nt, ~ e;ohtv mia in erts,1 nth v.rv 6ns
bsrhors and its vsry noortart station for oommsr
c;.l a. vel as military nnar,ne When thu treaty. VA
neOotated the cIuster Of iaet 70 which have alluded
WAS the ONE tn for in the very letter which the
hosersbsa senator has read ~ vritsr rsssrs to
the cluster OF iseta cesolibed in the treaty Of
i-es md Nave ,hsv are There IL no referen,a
tn rbs large Islands in the Raw cf Honduras two hun.
dre OF three hundred miles off which belong now to the
state OF Honduras / merely wished to confirm the
statement OF the honorable Stns,or on that subject
There Is something in this matter that seems to me very
n,shIe senator cou1a have told Mr. Cramnton such stuff
and So how does it happen that this important fct
after discussion of FIVE years. does out
until this late favS There mu,t be some vsry strange
misapurehe nsiou
ny this matter leaves the possession
vi At "a tbs es.e Of the letter Of M
MI CIAYIoN-snuary 1854 ia tbs date OF the letter
read by me-
R-a,;:h aoxs,nmer,S = 80 we = :.
M CfayToN-The 3lst OF March 1856 about the ii ne
~ he bstves him and me in the presence
Of INV friend from KENTUCKY
NJ CprTTynryAs orve1 here II purports to be m ex-
tract from letter az NJ Crampton There NAV be SONS
The parts of that letter which are not
given hare ;ybt throw over this m some
light bat co not know anything ., ali abou. that The
lanonape isl
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h M son h IN ne c,u.deres Rosan A. much sisb
possession rs Jansca or any other British West India
Islands
In the conversation which heard between those two
ceut!eu en- and which seemed to be full Conversation
Was Of considers ole lepgthtne Ssns sor from Della
ware essed hum con this psint He seemed to desire
10 have Mr. Crsmp on speak out The Senator did not
In that conversation at any rate admit tha. Roatan was
De e and De fno 81 itish posfes.ion as much as ia
maiea.
M O. AyroS-Mr Crampton did not pretend that 1t
Was
Mr. CRr1TEspFy-He did no. pretend that II vas 50 far
as recoec The simple fact that 1t was known 10 this
government that the BrAh had taken possession of It
was admitted a. | understood; but that It was not
covered by the treaty or tina, 1t was British possession
de jpre or de faco was not admitted, was IL
,erfed by Nj Cram pton but the contrary, under
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