The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1856-08-14

language, common INSTITUTIONS, poity which, II not
Identical in detail is at all events based upon the
principles and extends the rights freedom of
thought, action and speech which other form Of go
vernment either acknowledges permits. That two
such countries united by such ties to
the human race privileges which elsewhere either
suspended should be brought into the arena
OF inernecne strife and should expend in mutual injury
the resources and the powers which might 80 advan
tageousy combined for the succor Of struggling liberty
and the salvation of oppressed natonalitiea-no event
could SO fully satisfy the most prayers of auto
Graf and despct this. II would be to ex
hing every hope and aspiration AFTER freedom which
may be s cherished among the depressed peoples Of the
world No; let Epglishmen and Amer leans agree
to differ az much as they choose on minor matters
kept open for their disputes or their us
their liberation Of slavery and let them deride
on this point viz that to carry our differences to the
fearful arbitrament Of would be an remedable in
Jury to humanity and civilization, and cause Of pound
less rejoicing every bgo and despot civil or eccesi
astica, all over the world
We trust that shall not be misunderstood bY those
whom our remarks mainly concern. We deprecate
with America; and we deprecate through fear not
OF what she do against u.s. but what we can both do
against each other We now prepared, in arms and
men, for a longer and trying war than any whchis
likely TO fall to lot We learn too, that the states
unprepared as Mr. Bright AMI bis followers
are in the habit Of telling 1t is the boast OF the
States that they Pare nation OF sol
ders that from one end Of the Union 70 the other they
could raise army OF much less than GOO 900 men
OF course this army could not be so concentrated or ma
louvred with such a smaller one; would be
difficult feed and keep together; but, after exhaasns
criticism it. efficiency, one thag is very cleartha
the amount OF injury which VIC might recprocay iuct
would be neaieusble We have in one instance
selfove We trust that in the one remaining caase Of
dispute between US the American government will ini-
pressing a desperate contamination questions whlca
admit Of a pacific and equitable solution.
Iron the london News, July 81
Although the passage in tho Queens speech on Central
America oisspates tbs reports that Lord Clarendon and
Mr. Dallas have actually concluded new treaty on that
much perplexed but really very simple question:
o
sderably advanced Such 10 point OF fact is, believe
the case Commencing the discussion with sincere and
hearty desire arrive at the only rational conclusion
that could enter the minds OF CONSCIENTIOUS aud really
responsible regulators, Lord Clarendon and Mr.. Dallas
have not 1t is understood, given themselves much trouble
about referring any OF the points in dispute either
to third Power board Of scientific
men, but have taken into their own hands settle
ment OF the whole question. For this purpose tue
representative of third state las been admitted
into their negotiations and deliberations the Minister OF
the republic Honduras and his admission leads rrcsis
bly the conclusion that E gland instead OF "scater
ing the winds the Clayton Bulwer convention whatever
tie Consequences" writer in the Ednburg Reriep
recommends is about to pursue the far sensible
policy OF trans ferring the Bay Islands which she does not
want to the state OF Honduras which hey geographical
y and properly belong to.
In considering all question III United states policy
the frst thing is 10 clear n .l OF diplomatic cant,
and to deal with the matte lore things to
be transacted in the plain simple spirit of ordinary
business between man and mlu. What, then, was
the object OF the Clayton Bal ser convention? IL
vas TO advance and TO promote the construction OF
an easy, aquck and comparatively inexpensive route
from the Atlantic to the Pacific through Central America,
and TO place its neutrality and freedom when finished,
under the guarantee Of England and the United States,
and il possible, Of the maritime Powers gene ally.
Without some such treaty as this the route viii either
be constructed, or II constructed, will be Ia the
sole and under the absolute control OF those
who furnish e spirit and the money to make it, Now,
the spectators in such enter prise are, is certain
much more likely 10 be citizens OF the United States
our /" scattering TO the winds, whatever the conse.
quences" the treaty OF $780, because cannot have
our own way IN settling those minor points which
haN in 1ala Sh0
wns negotiated to PROMOTE is proposing 10 sacrifice
solid gain to vindicve sillipess Under favor Of
Etisatarg Resseo, We will do nothing OF the sort. We
WILL the contrary, ourselves adhere to the pro.
visions OF the convention, and will keep the United
States strictly TO them long possibly II
they will not meet US more than hall way In the settle
ent OF existing dspucs that Of the very strongest
have for holding them bound faster toan
ever 10 th Use articles Of the treaty that guarantee the
neutrality and the freedom Of the route by whomsoever
and whatsoever made. We are rot going TO scatter %
the winds that which Is obviously OF much greater
value 10 England than TO the United states.
To do anything so absurd would be to play the
their control perhaps 10 their monopoly For
great and valuable 70 England Ms II obviously is this
f.I i,ny WI never enter INTO competition with the
possssson OF tbat great highway between Europe aud
India, China and Australia.
1900 always before us, and regarding them funda
mental arrangements between the two countries tie
lngsh Cabinet ough, In opinion seriously auc ener
geicay 70 take into consideration how practically
advance this great work The notion OF great ship canal
WHICH prevailed ia 1850 when the treaty concluded
and ~hch consequently played the predominant part In
the treaty, may now be Fald 10 be abandoned before
engineering DIFFICULTIES and TIE greatness OF the cost
Happily however, with just provision the protection OF
the two Powers (nDd Of all other Powers which give Ia
thcr adherence y, by tho eighth ar,lc. equally app.
cable 70 railway as 10 canal and railway is now thu
avorse suggestion. The line proposed through the
state q Honduras from Puerto Cabaas 10 the Bay or
icrssca No doubt the length Of such a railway would
be much greater than the chip canal proposed through
Nicaragua; but II the cost OF constructed can be ken.
within reasonable limits little additional length iu ..
rapid aud certain means OF communication a. a rail
way DOT very material IL y also certain thai the
State 81 Honduras Is not OF the settled or civil
laed Of The Central American republics but there
advantage % England In transferring the intcroccanlc
rorte from Nicaragua, where United sta,os In
iuence prevails and Is likely TO prevail Honduras
with which there Is no reason why England should NOT
be on good terms; especially the draugh of articles
which the representatives OF Honduras Europe have
prepared Tor the consideration OF the English and other
governments and put into circulation are in spirit ali
that could be desired though occasionally their terms
hardly carry out their spirit 70 ts ull extent With one
another line, as proposed, from Puerto Cabaos to the
Bag OF fonseca; and with third route Of the ordinary
description across The Mexican ibmns Of Teiuan,epcc,
such an impetus 10 this direction that at distant date
We might have great ship canal connecting the two
But glance al the map viii convince the mos, ordi
rary obseiy that to the United support 10
seh a,alway through Honduras Englsnd mus, be pre-
Cra, and 5onacca II may be that Belize did once be
org 10 the vice royalty Of Yucaan and not to that
PARISH province IN which locally situated the
sceroyahy CT GUATEMALA and Is Just pos sibc tina. the
Bay lsl1nds were dependencies OF Belize though Ia our
Judgment the reverse OF either position the case But
We are 10 have railway the state OF Honduras
his very clear that neither the United states nor Hon
iua rsst satisfied with strong British military posi-
cns both 10 the right and The len Of It's Atlantic tor
minus, Puerto Cabaos. We. such woudbe the position Of
hnrs We persist In our present professions; there VIC
bould be on TIC coast Of Belize tho right and ia L
sraian The len overlooking AMI Commanding Puerto
abscs. The projection, tier, OF this railway through
e etste OF Honduras makes s;ill more imperative that
re H.
ccuIsiion Of the BAY fssnds and are glad 10 find
leading mporarics at last prepared preparing
fsnttoa q retire mcnt which for long stood aoue ia
be press In Recommending TO her Macsty's government
nd which we have every reason 10 hope Lord Clarendon
VII advise bis colleagues TO urge on the Queens adop
ion.
The real question ought not 10 be one Of ANTIQUARIAN
osearch whether Belize did ID not belong the vice
cysl,y OF Yrossn, and whether Bay Islands were or