Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1856-03-08
IMPORTANT DEBATE IN PARLIA NEWT
SPEECHES OF R0EBUCK AND PALMERSrON.
OUR RELATIONS WITH AMERICA

IMPORTANT DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT
SPEECHES OF RoEBUCK AND PALNERSroN.
OUR RELATIONS WITH AMERICA
On the order OF the day being read for going into Com
mittee Of supply
Mr. Roebuck to call the attention the House TO
relations With the United States OF Americs The
Hon. and learned gentleman said; IL is incumbent
to make apology to the House foe bringing forward
motion this subject.
IL has been stated by the government through the
medium OF the noble lord head that the reason why
mention made in the speech the throne ON
the subject Of America that the negotiations
in such condition that they could not ia fairness all
parties be published at present The noble lord there
fore appealed 10 the House and ssid-"Do YOU think,
under these circumstances, that ought have made
public incorrect statement OF the affairs in question
quite agree With the noble lord that woald have
wrong to do So but believe that silence would
only lead To confusion determined break silence.
Ii appears to me that incorrect statement of affairs
has been laid before the public OF this that
DO not know what has occurred. and | think hold
in my hand the means of making them acquainted with
the actual OF affairs As my intention Ia to convey
10 the House and To the nation large state
ment OF facts hope the House will bear with while
attempt cebly a. know it will be- perform that duty
The noble Lord taking illustration from the honorable
meuber for the West Riding said that We had done all
that OF honor could have done the case between,
ourselves and tho Americans that had spoogzed Tor
that which had been taken amss by them, that had
expressed tor having trnched upon their
and that had done cvcryt thing which, persons desi
Of and honorable men, could be called upon
To do. Ii the facts the noble lord stated should
have been the first to support him in his view of the
but as believe they very different have for
ward to enighten the ignorance OF the world (f
express mysef) Hear, hear and laugh in this
ignorance tered by the holding back of all that
initiated against England in the circumstances which have
occurred.
We have been led suppose that right on our
side and that cousins the other side of the water
taking advantage OF our position, nevertheless
dcaNouring 10 force US TO make sort OF suppcaon
them for peace Now what il the OF the case y
IL i this A9er the Parliament Great Britain had
ed an act for the enlistment OF Foreigners the
dctcrn under the provisions OF that enlist peo
Pile America. Being unable to intercept the emigration
flowing from Germany to America, they America
and they gave instructions TO authorities there
foreign legion, TO be composed of persons enlisted in
America
One OF r,c persons employed upon that occasion was
our Minister at Washington Mr. Crampton another
the Governor OF Nova Scotia. and third the Co
vernor-General of Canada The noble lord said that
soon the discovered that umbrage had
been given To the United States by the they had
hfen he gave instructions 10 ministers and agents
not to trench in way upon the municipal laws Amer
lea, and at the time full apology to the Amer
lean government He then app, aled the House. and
asked-could he do anything mores
II the noble lord had only done what he stated should
have answered his appeal by sasing that nothing more
could be done But government did more. and what they
did will now state. Mr.. Champion from Washing
Nova Scotia aud he there entered into sort OF
combination With the governor and laid plan by which
the laws of the United States might be conravened in or
be Oh
tanned by any other will prove directly all tina,
assert of Mr. Champions mouth or rather gu,
OF his pen, but ought first state the law of Amer
upon the subject OF enlistment and the House will then
that ia in accordance with the opinion and feeling OF
the country.
In the rt place it is Illegal enlist any BODY in, the
United States for the services OF foreign State The 20
vernment not however charged with that offence but
With something more Any person going the United
states and inducing people leave those States for the
purpose being enlisted abroad also acts in contrayen
INN nt The la and il If
Champion accused of having broken through lie went
TO Nova Scotia he there engaged persons going the
States To enlist peope-that H. to induce them 20
Nova Scotia, to be enlisted Now the very act OF indu.
cling people leave the Unit ed for the purpose OF
being enlisted Is violation OF the law being contrayen
ton of that neutrality to which the Americans wish to
here.
Mr. Champion thought he could do this without being
discovered by the authorities of the United Stotes They
did however discover, what taken place. and in con-
sequence OF that discovery, Mr. CHAMPION issued proca
the Law of the United States aud giving the parties whom
he employed cypher by which they might communicate
with HIM How do prove this statementy Why hold
IN my hand document curious IN many Ways IL is a re-
port Of trial that took place in Penns yvania in which
one Henry ierts was the defendant being charged by the
United States Government with certain breaches of the law
set forth III the indictment One peculiarly OF the indiet
ment il that il Is Ineligible. augh.l
This Henry Herts was man who had been employed by
Mr. Champion TO crimp people-that H. induce them
leave the Ited States and Nova Scotia for the
pose of being enlisted there and then sent to the Cnea
Now, supposed to have made apology the Un.
ted States and supposed too, and time sup
posed by myself, that the apology which the Uni
ted States ought to have accepted but appears that
either Mr. Champion beyond his Instructions and
the United States fully justified in requesting h
recall his instructions beyond what the laws In,
United States would permit aud in that case the Unec
States would be justified in saying that the apology OF ou
government disingenuous and could be admitted
and that they still insisted the recall Mr. CHAMPION
will mention circumstance known every one ia
misr with the history of the United States that dun.
the revolutionary of France and during the Pres
dency of Washington envoy from France Ctoyer
Genet, went TO America and endeavored fl. out priya
trrs contrary TO the rules OF neutrality which the Unite,
States had laid down. Washington aud jackson com
planned Of this conduct the part of the Coyen and
they sent To the republican government OF France requ
stion for his recall He recalled and the demand Of th
Cnited States satisfied The United States then did b.
friendly government-the government of Frauce-wha
they now DOLBY Overwhelmingly they demanded the
call of the who had broken their laws of neutrality
| Now. want to make it clear that Mr.. Champion Ia,
also broken through the laws OF the United States which
laws lac ought 20 have known; and ii he has broker
through those laws without the authority of the govern
mcnt here, the government Of the United States are full
justified in demanding his recall. II he has broker
through them by the command Of the government here
then say that the government in making their apology
haye endeavored to palm OF deception this Ious
and the country for which they responsible IL ap
pears from the facts elected in the course of the trial ON
Of the witnesses had been authorized by Mr. Champion
act recruiting sergeant in America. and had receive
from Mr.. Champion paper which showed the system
deception practised
Is anything required to prove that Mr.. Cramptor
knew the law an took the means to eyade it, and that IN
abete therein by the Governor OF Nova Scotia AM
the Governor general of Canada IL appears me tina
a between and the United States would be q wa
between brethren the evils of which would surpass AM
thing that could be Imagined. We the only two grci
free nations the present time and shall it be -aid tina
cannot preserve peace between ourselves We la,
been led believe that by Ignorance that breacl
| II the municipal laws Of the United States had beer
committed 10y u.s. and that for that breach made ever
atonemen in power but could this House believe tina
we committed that breach with eyes open aud tina
when made apology we're attempting 20 evad
the laws Of the United States, which promised
serve? IL mOy be said that these statements mad,
at trial by persons who turned evidence agaius
their employers That is true / will allow nav. allow
that the report itself i dscredit 10 the United States
| I think It U.s. aud will tell YOU why Throughout th
authorities show feeling Of violent hatred 10 Englin,
hear hcar aud the defence Of the parties charged
entirely excluded from te report In itself that report
not worthy Of any regard, but il contains documents writ
nJy NJ Champion, IL contains statements which haw
been cOntrauicted aud which ia themselves Prov
| the case against our government.
! want to know distinctly what we're the instruction
given to Ne Champion IL may be- -aid that he was toll