Daily American organ. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1856, 1856-07-15
Fremont and Fulmer.

The New York Times having denied the state
ment Of Alderman Fulmer in relation to Fremont's
Romanism, the New York Express makes the fol.
lowing statement by authority Of Alderman Full.
mer himself
lst That in 1852, he (Alderman Fulmer) and
COL Fremont were in Browns Hotel, Washington
city, together, and that then and there he (Ful-
mer) frat saw Fremont, and saw him, then and
there, daily and repeatedly 80 that there could be
no mistake to identity.
I'd. That he (Fulmer) being told that he (Fre-
mont) was Roman Catholic, doubted it, for re-
sons not here necessary to name and doubted Il
80 earnestly that IL was affirmed and reafirmed
whereupon he, himself upon being informed proof
of It existed In COL Fremont's worshipping, on the
Sabbath, In the Roman Catholic cathedral or
church, went to that church TO see and satisfy him
self Of the fact. He there saw Col Fremont enter
the church, and by or near the door cross himself
With so.catied Holy Water, as he entered; and no
(Fremont) then passed up the centre asle Of that
church, TO slip pew not far from the altar, or
place where the priests we're, plen he (Fremont)
again crossed himseif and took his place.
8. That he (Fulmer) witnessed for some time the
rites and ceremonies in the Roman Catholic church.
in which Fremont was then worshipping, and that
he (Fulmer) stayed there, till the boys with the
censors ESQ caled) sprinkled incense $50 called,
whereupon he (Fulmer) left.
4. That, on the same Sabbath, he dined at the
same public table with Col. Fremont, in Browns
Hotel at sort Of oval table, al which he was dis
tant from him Fremont) only some five or six per.
Sons, and then and there, Col. Fremont address,
ing those five or six persons unknown to him (Ful-
mer) between him (Fulmer) and Fremont, dwelt
upon the august rites and ceremonies Of the church
he had been that day attending, as If with view
to impress them Herewith; and in 30 public a
manner, that he (Fulmer) felt it proper to ask him
(FremOnt(-
"If he (Fremont) believed in Transubstantis.
ton ~
Whereupon he (Fremont) asked
"What Fulmer) understood by Transubstan-
tiation 2"
When the conversation continued substantially
az follows:
Fulmer-I understand It to be the belieG-that
the patsr wAicA the Roman Catholics use in the
Sacranaenf, is aubstantialiy converted 6y the
Priesfs into the body Of Jesus Christ Do You
BELIEVE THATf
Fremont do
Fulmer-Did Christ ever have more than one
bodyr
Fremont-No. He had but one body.
Fulmer-Do you believe that the body Christ
was cruciHed in was laid in the sepulchre of Jo-
seph's Tombg
Fremont believe it was.
Fulmer-Do you believe that body after the res
direction was the body he ascended to Heaven
withp
Fremont believe il was.
Fulmer--Then what kind Of machine, hook
or knife, pressure, does Bishop or Priest make
use Of to obtain the body of Christ, to convert
into waters at pleasure for the whole worldp
Fremont-Excitsd, and appearing angry, made
no reply, and in seeming indignation left the table,
Now here are the ponts-to take issue upon
and "by authority we affirm this conversation
and this scene to be true. As the Times has spc-
ken "by authority" of Fremont through the edi-
tor,-we await the reply of Fremont himself
when, If denied, we viii substantiate these facts
by oath, or affidavit and thus add to them that
sanctity. we