The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-02-10

me government does his duty. (Cheers from honorable
s salsa y has ~. been pursued in the present case I. unfair,
4 one othe! poin, which wish to imp impress as,f upon the the
It win require no ordinary energy and no
great deal, and let the House prepare to do
. great deal in its turn. Let them give the Minister Of
Parliament II he wants them Jet him be, In fact. for the
Lime, . species Of military dictator. That Englani Is not
have h%t' sess r making = !. Rfs ssS. s ! ! iI'g But sas Why S%In DO %s e VT
our military force in two, and why do va not put our
Indian force into the Queens services But 50 great has
of wellington asked for Sir Thomas Munro to be his
second in command in Spain, all his inausnce was unable
we're sitting here ION the opposition ~benches), and op-
posing and decry ing the Duke OF Wellington. (Hear,
hear But no enc Is d@scryiny the present war or re;
be the fault of the government IL they do not do what Is
wanted. (Hear, hear) My right honorable friend (Mr.
be found fault with. But If l am asked who Il the true
cniprit, ! should accuse, frat, the total ignorance Of
besieging ssbastopol; and, secondly, the total incompe.
tency oil Lord Aberdeen TO rule a commissariat composed
Of treasure clerks hardly know the Duke Of Newca.-
tie when | see him, but / have known Lord Aberdeen
long, audi must say that ! am friendly TO him for his
amiabls and peaceful, but not for his belligerent, quail
Colonel Noafa attributed the chief blame OF the defects
OF our army organization to the House, which refu sed to
grant money for military purposes.
AAs nAhLNsS IA WIS COIuplhtuci - I
were the result of a long system OF public neglect, the
correction OF which required q strong and vigorous ad-
thought, could believe that a com mi.tes was 4 fair and
proper tribunal for such an inquiry.
The Marquis of CRANKY digressed into the question o..
the policy Of the war, which he condemned, being con.
WINGED that the Emperor Of Russia never in.endei to
seize UPON the Ottoman Empire, and that the mainte-
nance OF the balance Of power in Europe was not the real
Mr.. W. LINDSAY said, as the government would not
adopt the measures, he thought necessary he should
give bis au mort to the motion. AnOther ground WA
that . large portion OF our noble army In the Crimea had
persisted, lie believed, through neglect. A third reason
was the state OF the transport service.
Mr.. IAyARD said he had no intention that evening of
entering into details, though he could scarcely give a 81
Secretary at War had dragged him into details, with
which, on more than one occasion, be had troubled the
House. The right honorable gentleman was. generally
30 Ingenious in his speeches that they required following
to show what his statements really we're. He did not for
a moment insinuats that the statements made by the
they were put in a form likely to mislead. The right
honorable gentleman had attempted to justify what had
might as wen consign ali books Of history u the q ,mss,
If their purpose was not to warn those who followed to
avoid the errors Of past times The RICH. honorable gen.
tleman said that after Talavrea a state Of things existed
similar TO that which now existed at B~alaklava; but,
surely, IL q great minister undertook a great war, the
fist thing he should do would DO to refer to history to
see now that war should be carried on, and to see what
mistakes had been committed, in order, II possible, to
svSia them. (ns slrI n Having Sing to q certain 81, extent ,Iss j. ID, ID.
norable gentleman attempted to defend them-6rst
throwing the blame on the system, and then, he re-
y, Parliau ent endeavored last year to compel the gov
eminent Gas they had to compel the government
to do almost sverytthing) to alter the system,
the system should be altered. That system had
not been altered (hear, hesr) It remained In, precisely
had taken place; nothing whatever bad been done. The
right honorable gentleman then threw the blame on tue
army, saying there were no officers capable Of command
in . brigade. Several honorable members, in the al.
sence OF Mr.. SIDNEY Herbert, ventured slight expressions
Of dissent This right honorable gentleman said no re.
gimental officer knew anything about brigade service.
(Hear.) He wanted to know why some paltry jealousy
was allowed to prevent employing men who had gsiosi
stance OF Sir Colin Campbell. To him we owed one Of
the greatest victories we had gained in India. His Yer.
s s,ssi sS E,r !. =, Son sss aI:P q ! S 81 tie g='y Nol BE-, n ths t saSy
mand Of a brigade, under 9 general ofnser who had never
seen q shot hred and knew nothing about . campaign.
(Hear, hear.) Who were the other general officers ?
He did not wish to say anything unpleasant, but the
tine was come when they mus. speak out. Hear, hear)
One general officer had returned from India with a some.
what doubtful reputation. He did not pronuucs
whether tina. reputation had been justly assailed, bat
there was no man who would not acknowledge It must
(Hear.) Other commands were given to others no less
incompetent, ard yet there were men who had seen ser
vice of such . nature in India as en- titled and qualified
them to take part in the grea. events which had taken
place In the Crimea. Then, the right honorable gentle
man said that our soldiers were taken from a class OF
lie said, even make their own bells. He would remind
the House that our sailors were taken from the same
W nHhc EuSusuIucu.
why was there any diferencsi When q soldier entered
the ranks he was, In effect, told he must no longer ex-
called Upon every moment TO exercise his intelligence,
and that was the cause Of the difference between the
two services: In the French army the sol lier was in
lish navy; his intelligence was called out Ia the same
manner; aud no one could stay a week in the two
armies without perceivinq how far better the French
soldier, performing his duties intslIigentiy, was than the
English, not because he was q better or q Drawer man,
fhey Wiahad tn NJ In the r00t Of the evil they must o. n N
the evil Be- radically corrected it would c~ensinu., and be
which complaint was made. Hear, hear The right
honorable gentleman had attributed the greater part OF
ssllen us, TO the want Of . road from Balaklava to the
camp. The noble lord, the member for the city OF Lou.
don, actually said that II the government could have
foreseen that seven miles wouli have interviewed for the
transport of food 70 the army, they would have hesitat.d
before they undertook . cam -algn Of the kind. lord J.
Russell expressed dissent He understood the noble
lord to say, that IL the government had been aware the
army would be 20 placed as to have seven miles between
ihs point OF Communication and the camp, they might
have heststed. (LOrd J. Russell again signiied his
dissent He begged the noble lords pardon,
but, lie would ask, had any army ever entered on
tervening between the point OF communication and the
camp 7 Hear, hear He remembered last year, In the
winter, H,r Msjesty's government. applied 70 him for in
among other questions, he vas asked II any class Of in.
dlviduals could be engaged a. por'ers, and u wa, stated
that II they engaged Greeks they wo1ld all perhaps run
away or be spies; but there was . nstion, the Arme.
mans, who acted ~ porters az Constan,inople, and nigh.
be trusted. He was asked whether they were Massui-
mans or Christians. Qaugtter.) He said they we're
Christians, and suggested that as they we're tayorabi, TO
the Turkish government, q brigade might be formed OF
them, TO be used especially as carr ers. That suggest IN,
like many others, was neglected, and, no.with,tanding all
warming, no means OF transport we're providei. The right
honorable gentleman said means OF transport were pro-
vIded, but the horses were lsft behind al Vsrna.
Would the House believe that those horses were
not calculated for ira nspor. seryiel They we're officers
bor ses; and how were the officers treatedf on Beers OF AL
grades, many with only their miserable ~pittsnce Of nav to
live on, we're required 10 bur two horses esch-in some
cases four or 6ve-and within = fes days the army left
yarpa; the hcrses were left there 20 die, and not one six.
renee OF recon pensc had been received by these gentle
men. (Hear) These we're the several thousand horses
which the right honorable gsnt'eman said the govern
tnent had procured A. varna for transport service. Then
n was said there was q wagon train. IL was true wa.
IONS were used. but when the army landed there was no
wagon ,Isir. aud, what was unheard .. in war, the Of.
feers bad to carry on their backs evsryttits In the