Semi-weekly standard. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1853-18??, 1855-09-05
Respectfully,
K. RAYNER.
RALEIGH, August Z, 1855

an absence of more than, two weeks, and on my re-
turn find your letter of July goth. In this letter
you request me to publish your letter OF the 9th
July. Had been here when your last letter ar
rived, might have published the first as requested
but since the appearance of your entire letter to
Mr. Ellis can hardly suppose you desire the pub
LEGATION of your entire letter to me. lfyou do how
ever, you herein find copy of it, which you can
have published if you desire its publication.
must confess feel surprised at the turn this
matter has taken. And you must pardon me, for
my review of all the facts and Incidents connected
with it. and for trying to recall the same to your re-
collection.
It's true there is no issue between us. in regard
to any matter of fact. Your statement to both Mr..
Ellis and myself confirms my account given OF the
conversation between on the subject alluded to.
But in regard to the inference to be deduced from
your statement the impression made on your mind
by the communication of the Pope's Nuncio at tie
time stated in your letter to Mr. Ellis, is entirely
different from what mine Is n01c-and entirely dill
fcrent from what understood yours to be, at the
time of the conversation between
Allow me to call to your recollection, the circum
stances under which this conversation occur ed be-
tween you and ME. l called to see you at 4arboros
Hotel sometime about Christmas, think. After
talking various subjects, the subject of the Ae
rican movement was introduced, forget whether
by you myself / stated 10 you that really felt
alarmed the progress and grasping policy of the
Roman Catholic church in this country. You
piled that people here knew nothing of the Ro-
man Catholic church, as you did, who had witness
sed its action in Spin, where it had full power. You
then went to speak of the sale of indul gences,
which was still practiced in Span-that on certain
festivals or sa:ntsdays in the year, you had often
large placards put up at prominent places
along the streets of Madrid, containing regular
tariff of prices, at which indugences would be grant
ed for the commission of sins-among other things,
recollcct you mentioned the item Of release from
the obligation of oath, to be obtained by paying
a certain sum, &C., &c. At this recoect express
sed nay surprise-and said, that badly as thought
of ne I of
indulgenees practiced by that church any
where in this age You replied, "Oh yes, it is still
kept up in Spain" You then went on to speak of
the denial by the Spanish Government of the right
of decent burial to any Protestant who might die
in Span-that no religious service allowed to
be had at his bural-that not more than three per-
sons we're allowed to attend his body to the grave
that they not allowed to take the body to
the grave in any vehicle more respectable than
common cart-that they were required to take the
body out of the city along some obscure way and
bury it in the feds-and that most of the bodies of
ProteStants thus buried were supposed to be disln
tered by the anatomists. You mentioned some in
stances of Protestants of high social position, that
had died in Spain, whose bodies had thus been dis
posed Of aad whose graves could not be afterwards
found by their friends. l asked you, how it would
have been with yourself if you had died when there.
You stated that you had your arrangements provid-
ed that in of your death, your body was to be
embamed and brought home to the United States.
You spoke further of the intolerance of the Romish
church in Span-that there not single Pro-
testant place of worship allowed in the whole King
dom Here again expressed my surprise, and
asked you if it was possible that the English Gov
ernulent, with all its we'll known influence in Spain,
did not exact from the Spanish Government, the
privilege Of Protestant chapel connected with the
English embassy in Madrid. You replied no, it
was not allowed even to England, although the Bril-
fish Government had long been endeavorng to OBJ
tain the privilege. You spoke of many other enor-
mites and expressions of the Romish church. In
the course of the conversation, said that Iconsid
cred the Romsh religion to be utterly incompatible
with the existence Of free government-that their
assumptions of power in this country began to be
alarmlng-that as you were not in the country at
the last Presidential election, you wero PROBABLY
not well acquainted with the influences which pre-
vailed in deciding it-but that there was very little
doubt, but the Roman Catholic vote in the North
wae given to Mr.. Pierce in pursuance of arrange.
ment with Archbishop Hughes to that effect. You
replied You have no idea how well posted they
are In Europe in regard to what is going in this
oountry." "Why Sir" (said you) "the Pope's
Nuncie at Madrid told me of Campbell of Pennsyl-
wanna being member of the Cabinet before had
heard Of it. and before it was known in Madrid"
/ remarked that Was proof there had been a bar.
gain. that the Roman Catholic vote should be given to
Ar. Pierce, and that that church should have seat
IN the Cabinet, &c.-You then went on to state the
incidents connected with the Nuncios conversation
with YoI--that it was at party given by of
the members Of the Cabinet in Madrid-that the
Nuncio came up to you, stated to you the fact of
Mr. Campbell, Catholic, being member of Mr..
Pierces Cabinet, and expressed his qualification,
tHSt ms cnurch was SO strong and Influential in the
onltea states, as to obtain such honor.
did not consider this conversation between YOU
and me as confidential or as ounsi.confidential 7
spoke OF 1t often in the course of conversation with
many persons-and l spoke of it publicly in speech
IN Richmond On my return from Philadelnhia in
Iahe, saw you In Baltimore, at Barnum's Hotel.
then said to you that l had spoken publicly of
What you had said to me- in REGARD IN the o,,e-E<