The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-05-03

to that house, never heard the Of any per-
cons calling there, but heard the fact mentioned AZ
Mr. TIMOTHY wxnsrxR, leutenaut OF police, made his
at the conclusion Of che foregoing testimony
snd was sworn by Aid. Briggs but he proved refrac
Aid. B., administsrin the oath-You do soIemnly
swear that you will answer AL quest ons-
give WIN be the tTut the whole truth. nothing but
the truth, so help me Col
sos%, pas hour hand on the book % Now oH
the truth.
Il. W., after repeating the oath Now decline
answering any questions put by this committee.
AID. B.-what 10 your names
No answer
Ths CIxRK-Give us your name, can't your
The CInK-Timothy webstsr-is that you nameg
~ What is the rame on the uopena received.
Aid B-Have you ever answered any questions put to
you in the station house n regard to your nativity &C.
1t WI refuse to answer.
Aid B.-What country are you native Off
1t WI positively decline to answer any question
this committee puts to wish that to be distinctly
outsider
No answer. Alderman B. leaves the room and the
witness nduges himself With piece of tobacco. About
ten minutes elapse the worthy city father returns
When he returns he appears considerably refreshed.
Aid. B-to the reporters-rhis law appears to be
tte light (referrns to that compelling witnesses to
sweI,) upon the subject In faa will have to 60
You win honestly and truly Ito another wit
ness all such questions may be put to you relative
committee
The witness, who we afterwards ascertained was It.
would not take that oath w said hs take the other
OATH
AID. 3. again leaves the room, for the third time, and
in about se minutes returns
There is good deal OF quibbling about this way Of
administering osth, said he his temperance. t
s however, legal and regular win not make any al
The osth was repeated again.
Lieut. McC-I refuse to take that oath.
- wa IOnQe DO
fuse to answer any questionsg
cannot answer any questions till do viii take le-
AID. s-I have given way long enough; now I am
gong about it legally and correctly.
The Bible was handed to the witpess.
Aid. B.-Give me hold Of that book. Now, you do
this under investigation before this COMMITTEES
shall be the truth, the whole TRUTH and nothing but
the truth; 50 help you God
Lieut. McC.-Just say that over sgain.
The clerk read the OATH and the Witness took it,
AID. B-N0w, what Is your name?
Lieut. McC-l don't consider that you have any right
question whatever.
Aid B-Do you refuse to answer thata
Lieut. McC.-Yes, sir.
Aid. BLOW long have you been on the Police?
AID B.-What country are you native Off
Aid. B-I have heard tell Of these Know Nothings I
think have got to deal with (Lsughter.)
Have you ever been to prison in this or any other
country
AID. B.-what ward you attached t,y
Ne answer.
AvoICE-He Is Know Nothing
Aid B.-A perfect Know Nothing. Well, think 1t Is
time these Koow Nothing societies were rooted up.
they produce such L you don't intend to answer
any questions you can withdraw. will have you COM
Lieut. McC-Xn right. You'll find me when you want
AID R-f DON'T know that il is Sailabl. offence
there is . doubt on my mind about that.
AID B-We have got some afidavits here which viii
be in order now there s evidence at present.
The Secretary win please read them.
Mr. BRANCH read the llowidg sdavits which excited
considerable merrimsnt and laughter among the au-
AFFIDAVIT OF SIMON wYCKoEF.
J. Simon wyck ,f, residing at No. 434 Third avenue
ana being 4s DID, depose that father and fami
S IN the
that about that tims George the Of Mr.. Mstse,
tailor in New York. came to reside at Baskng Ridge with
bis sister Mary and her husband Mr.. Abbott,
sell resided with Mr. and MIS- Abbott, at BasEins Ridge;
George was about 70 or Is years old that often psysd
with George Matsel and sometimes he would help
Chores .na
would help George Draw Mr. Abbotts wood and feed his
chickens, for which Mr. Abbott sometimss gave me
shilling that George spoke indistncty that
would have TO get him to spell Of the words that
he pronounced his name like Bstsel and called
me, and then understood him, and thereafter called
him Matsell and he told me his father tailor
he With other New YORK boys, we're accusomsd TO ride
belly cutters; that being country boy myself and not
y belly s 70 sSn
and then falling on 1t with the belly down. that from
general conversation formed the opinion that George
English born; that believed him to be English
from bis English appearance and conversation, much
30 as would have believed Frenchman to be French
Georges dialect entirely English and think must
have made up my mind in those days that he was Eng
lsh born both from what have Just said and from his
chester England that he spoke Of things that ranspr
ed in Manchester, England; that have distinct recol
chester which he pronounced "Banchester" And fur
ther deponens saith not. SIMON J. wYCKoFF
Sworn before this twenty ninth day of April,
1853 GEORGE w. WHEELER, Commissioner Of Deeds.
AFFIDAVIT OF LOUISA BAKKR.
], Louisa Baker, (whose maiden name was Louisa
rdsg At No as Grand street and intending
about Is years sge went learn the t,ors trade
poor old frame house. Of one and half stories high,
which stood near Nblos Garden, and nearly opposite
Prince and Houston strssts that Mr. Matssis business
chiefly to mend and turn old coats that with
ana m
have job to make new pair OF pautaloons vest,
and other jobs and that sometimes worked these;
learned how to mend old clothes Of Mr. Matsel at the
same time; and remember this the especially as
George until afterwards and that was very much pro.
voked about it; that well remember that George used
to hold the r,pe for myself and other girls while
jumped IT. that sometimes Elizabeth Matsell
used to jump the rope with while George held
the rope that Elizabeth used TO call herself the
little English girl sonnet mes Miss Susan Mat.
sell, Georges sister, would jump the rope with
while George held it, althoush Susan was con-
sderably older than myself and Miss Johnson (now Mrs.
Dusenbury), and Elizabeth Matsell; that remember
Mary hatsel Mr.. Matselps eldest daughter, who
RED Mr.. Abbott that Susan Matse married Mr. Fiori,
Italian whose father kept porter house opposite
Mr.. Matsels; that remember Augustus Matsen and
James Henry Abdeel Colombia Mstsell, whom Ar and
Mrs Matsel used to call their Yankee boy account
OF his having been born In the United States that
always Understood from Mr. and Mrs. Mstse and from
many others, that an Of their children, except James
Henry Abdeei Colombia MatseI were born In England
that supposed they had recently come from England,
before they told me 80, from their Englsh pronuncs
very red cheeks Ike his father and looked In every
spect like English boy than his other brothers.