New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1855-10-24
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i'm be eek te ssid he al NJ, v-s t. receive sa'-
ibinP Il The kud, ana slowed il hack 70 ne; - q
ssio would leave ~ih him AMI be cOulf Te.lrn Is
a. some future tine il be y.hed, if Tbs offset VS. no!
scc"Brli-led.
Q. Wue, Gle was saii : A. / 90 not ksov sny'sisy
else, except | etdesvorei - cow c, him ths'
carse Of tho grade Of Eighty sixt1 street SAs very
~ neasur.. ,
O How long II TIVE interview lsst' A. should
thhk fit en- or sebiy mivu,.- perh,- LITTLE mrr-
o. Did ven II any other tie have ahy 'snvefsa.
tior sith Ald II Is 10 grading Of E'ghtY sIt, street
A. No, sir | hsve never hsd al! conversation VIA
hin on az subject eithsr before or sirce.
O. Do YOU know wDers the psper aud cheek were
wter ,oalefii A. left th' IN vi h him
O. Wien did yoa Dext see the cheek a. The he1i
ssv II was when my account sett ed e. my baak,
,nd GOT il returned witt nv other checks have not
sep the paper left with II 81 zee, and DO not knox
where il row ia; 90 remember the date hes the
check YVES returned to me- have no copy of the ps-
Ier which lett
The dsric. attorney requested The witness to STATE
tie conents Of the paper, which was objected 20, but
all we'd. ,
Witress-Tbst paper, II | recolect Hsh ", stated
dat wss Hing to give one hundred do lars tor
certain lumber Of bushels cards that provld the
nessure was eobcurred in by the board OF Alder men
] thuk that vas a that was expressed; e1 1ected
tie al, esmsn would forni-h tie cards; | never Vas
furnished with busress cads by The alderman az t1a'
tine Dor az auy time bad been oo- med what bus
uess be conducted; ] understand hs 10 editor of the
sumo sv Ieper csle1 The Aas KEPT an account g. zoo
tine with n Nee a. ice and Ir td-rs bar X toe hhns-
upis my bano writing the oher paper was not sign "a
il was small piece Of paper WI Il five or siN short
lines; | bad seen Aid III. before that ABOUT Two or
tIree tiDes; had never before tns', think, con-
vsrsed with him on any subj CT, ror received a1y
comnuIi alton from hin; when l s-ld 10 he a0cr-
nan it could be returned if it did pass he rep ID
il l. do 81 psss be wOuld certainty return Il.
Cross examined by Mr.. Brady am Gifts .iour years
Cf sce Rave resided In tbs city rear thirty yelrs
ouripg sl ii at have been schtsct was never
b. fore connected with any measure in tue co nmon
con, Gil except having resolution pass SONS years
a. to CT the tile OF piece OF property he'et
had al, thing 70 70 With any lesis alive body except
hat; 10 Lot psy anJ thing 10 get thai passed; niNo
never teen cOnceu ed in what is called i0o0ylng,
either directly or indirectly; lever offered To oro'
aiy pefsOn except That; don't know taat ever COM
plied o c.iUe-hat was the trst; my tsm,y has re-
81 Cd In the city with me; know Bran McCah'l,
coUI ell man -he presented the peti ION have bee
acquaibteo with him for some years; understood ne
sovocated The measure DID not employ him; he fell
10 wi uy viCws ell be did WIS voluntarily bslleve
the petiion was written by Mr.. Lvin1s:on; don't
know that beard any persons, except two talk
az 10 the Craze, except before the COMMITTEE, vixen
seyera were il favor Of t-Mr. Livingston the two
Mr. Folks, Mr.. Nibo ana finally we got Mr.. John
Murlhy who APPEARED to Understand 3obbying batter
tlan did; be lives in reny -irst stree, believe
a. q deals in brick, lime, and such things be dit so
OK or seven years; he has properly IN T. ghty skin
r ree, don't know th,t any person employed hum he
advocated because he was inc esed III IT, believe he
oia more than any one else the most prominent per-
SOD OF the other side VAS SIR. Thomas h. Downing |
old oil | could TO get the measure T. rough; never
poke TO d. Her ick not beiog acquainted With him,
exec pt ~ Ibaps did 80 wtes be was stlng 10 CON
uitiee iuoL ed from his cohvereation ~ was wat
We nj BIT term the fence judged SO from he man
uer be expressed himself to US ell IN the p7va'o oice
az well rs other Wise; nr. Murphy aud myself wers
present; the other petitioners old LOT seem 20 take
much interest in il; O'ber persons were present. Aid
Helrick ana he h I'd friends DO s'drs ano would
prefer have pDthiDg 10 say the suQci al all, o1t
10 leave it altogether wi the timer two OF the com
litt.e e ado resst bnselt 10 Mr Mnpby; did MT
lft any lend to call upon AID. Uonick la regard
10 ibe me asure | first formed tue ides o. going to
AID HerrCk with The check Ga SATURDAY evening, The
niUp ntfore car Ing IT, CID not know 'y0r Fer
ntI.6O Wood snc die not tDos boz he God on the
question beard Mi Murry fequestly speak )f belng
Il. quaiIeo with he DsyOr; think was in my oFn
boure when 70 med tue idea Of tahiog the check
MIR Murphy with ne no one 81 So was there tha
RENE inter, uIloss my might possibly have sePP-d
H. bu, don't reoolec having seen him; 1t Tss near
suDoOgu; don't recOlect that MUIphy could make up
his nina 10 hos many votes We could ge. Tor tbe
neasufe; we had doubts III ara 20 ~ tank Mr..
Murlby G. me TO tie noure OF biz Own accoTi-te Was
in TIE haiti Of ming there onali' he remaiu"d
abou hour We were talking about The er de OF ths
su,et; he Was slope; don't know who came 10 the
door vi Lin, Mr.. Murphy opposed that should
take he check Ia the alderman.
O. VIVA di, Mr. Murphy say 10 YOU lObjSc'ei 20.
MT. Brady said that vi ness and Mr.. Mdphy
were the persons WHO in fact committed tie crime
az st the law. They concoc ed tn plan 10 90 snd
hue an slderu an anG whether Aid Hsrrick accepted
the checs OF 10, what the jury will have to pass
upon. charge that coosprtcy was entered iato 10
make AID. lIesrick appear 10 have done wrong and
the witness either principal or to-, III meas
ure for the benefit of tie 6nI istfato o tbs city
The court thou h; il was Lot necessary to srsue a'
the question 10 correct.
Tie OIL ,ric attorney said he would withdraw a. he
lie wiling that the counsel may piove CONS lfacy II
h csD.
Wrnese-Mr Murphy suggested the idea of draw
sNag +haF ha va
SPOKEN o.; don't know tIaL / could repeat the Ia
Gus &c; tie substance was, that Wa the only way W.
coud secure report or the passage OF on Pe'Itpn
tlione the boar of Aderu entiht that was the ony
way we could secure the services OF Aid. Herik Is
10 I measure he did not speak OF an ner alder
men: be named the amount; did not propose any
t. ing; | VI detsOOd it thiOg suca as bad been
toIe every day; thought is was wrong be .aid II
" as a con mon thing; don't know whether ooeeted
TO il OF not; ne gave directions how to GO ~ ton
Inn hnd DO blank CHI CHS and he drew blank check
oil the Bulls Head Bauk out OF bis po ket-oooA;
drew apen across the VOL dc bull al, 1t was "a ale
rsyale TO cash, thilk il was al his suggesuon ~e
both came to he conclusion that It woud not do to
uece Ala Herricks name in It; think he sag yested
10 cJaw il TO each; don't remember whether be sus-
gcs,ed from what SAID; said To him be better go 30
1t bnsel that cid not want to 40 IT. he considered
N az il would be better for 10 Or II - Aid III r
fickss was sIsnger 10 him, he was acquainted
with Alo. H.; fad cen them speaking together l
think The check filed up on sunday morning, al
ter the citing Saturday, at which latter tune he
APPOINTED to cone up neJt day Sunday bet Feen
aid o'clock: he wanted to mase some farther IN.
oury as 10 whether promise would amwer lDsieai oil
the che X; don't know whom he intended 10 consult
] said If no money offered DO harm would oe
dcre: lie said be did not know that that would au-
sw,r. IL the prouise would answer was To give
pTouise-if not TO give q cheek; Fnen ne came on
sunday re concluded that promise would not an
swsr that mus. be check be did NOT Say "hs' al
vice lie bad taken; | understood him he hao CONVEX
.atior xuh Nj HerTicks friends on the subject. be