The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-06-23


Following after Nj Disrssh, Lord PALNEasroN said
The right honorable gentleman referred to the mo-
that ought not fer moment be supposed that that
motion implied want OF confidence In tue government,
or that 1t vas enc which, II agreed 70 by the House,
wo Id have required the government 70 abandon their
position. We have had de most ion p0rtaAt mat
ters involving ntereits OF the deepest kind and that
debate general conducted with caimneeB and
temper with that cesp consideration which is be-
coming the gravity OF subject Those who have ossn
the .or carrying ON the war with vgor have
expressed their opinion WITH, perhaps little animaton,
did the honorable and learned member for Ennski
len; but generally speaking, epnions have been * *
only exception 10 this has bsen evnce by The advocates
Of peace any cost cloud chesrs) With peace IN
hearts, and their speeches fo OF passion, yitu
perstion and abuse, AID delivered in manner wnicn
them. (Cries OF ooh % and ebssrs lnuss say, jadg
ing from their spesches, their manner, and their
leaders Of party for war At all hazards, instead
OF q party for psace az any cost. Cloud cheers
that SO far Parliament and the press having goad
ed the feeling INTO state Of artificial exsi.e
n.nt that on the contrary on deep and deliberate CON
vction the people OF this country looking at what
pafsDg exercising sound judgment and stimulated by
that manly feeling which, in spite OF the peace party in
and cut Of this house trust will always auima.e the
people Of Epslspd; (cbeers) they adopted this war,
which distaseiul to the honorable member for the
West RIDING, as being necessary and jus. Those gen
tlene. who so anxious in RECOMMENDING peace on
their terms, say: s'Tbat madness il 10 to make
the honorable gentleman know what is the population
Of England and FranceY 1t is equal to 40 900 900 of
people, at least the difference is extremely trAing
and moreover, have tho advantage Of concentration,
and Of thoie appliances -hich civilization and the arts
ns svs ssp S II sbo.. to
tonsl feelings which belong to nation Of
free people, but which animate the unhap
Il not necessary me to follow my honorable snds
thr0us all the details which they have given OF the
Russia op great snsth Of time Il woad Be easy to
follow her progress to Central Asia round the Cas-
pan down 70 Armenia to the confines of Persia then,
in the other direction TO Poland To the extreme eondnss
of Norway, and Ia the Arctic Sea- showing how upon
every point Of her extensive circumference she has
always been looking to an increase and bow, Whenever
she has made treaty with weaker Power, she has not
placed her boundary where nature would have seemed
to mark out, but gone beyond in order to
part for future agress0n, district which
would lay the foundation for future demands. When
that that systematic policy marked
her dealings all the worlds policy, by the by,
which lately been vowed by the present Emperor
who has told that his mission is to into effect
the wishes and desires Of Peter, of Catherine Of Alex
ander, and Nicholas when that it pursued
with extraordinary esrnestness ON particular occasion
ley was at stake and that vas time that the Pc xers
Of europe who interested in the Of the
integrity and Independence OF Turkey should draw the
(Hear hear) The war having been begun and Austria
having Expressed her desire OF bringing it to termna
tor by amicabe the treaty OF December was en-
tered into which purported that IT. after certain time
peace not concluded between the Western Powers
and Turkey the side aud Rassia the other
the Of the four points then that Austria would,
not positively take the Geld against Russia but delbe
rate with the allies for the of oysng tbs means
OF accomplishing the objects OF the ALLAN gland
and France therefore would have been to blame they
had not entered into these negotiations Bat did
pend the war account Of them? {Hear hear) Quite
the contrary carried warse operations just as If
negotiations bad been entered into, and nothing has
been neglected in consequence OF them Hear Inc right
honorable gentlemen opposite has tarowp out several
suggestions of thsm do doubt deserving Of consde
be declared neutral There are certainly instances in
Europe of STATES being declared neutral by treaty such
as Belgium and Switzerland; but confess AN not
Disposed to attach very great value practical upor
lance Of OF that Sort because think the
history Of the world shows that when qusrels arise and
when Power which is making finds it essential for
the purposes OF TO traverse any portion of such
neutral territory, the engagements of neutrality
these Prncpsltes az parts Of the Turkish empire
which think IL essential they shoald ne, for If they
would soon share the fate o: Poland, and besame
the objects Of 3 partition among their neighbours
Russia, in care 81 new war breaking ont would
ty with regard to them Nevertheless, NOZZLE FRIEND
Wien at Vienna, did make such provision the nature
sion OF Turkey through the Principaies less likely for
the future The protocols that there should
be foreign Intervention in the Prncpatiss without
tue agreement OF all the Five PoSers It has said
in the Of the debate that of the Powers
chose; but the the Then there to
have been established system Of Internal de-
mented in proportion the resources the country
increased. Perhaps such army might not have been
would have been valuable as means of national de-
fence The right honorable gentleman opposite object
ed to the particular arrangement made for caung the
pepondersnce Of Russia to In the Ba:k Sea- be-
cause he thought that the least dangerous quarter for
Turkey. There certainly differ from him. (Hsar,
hear think it is the most dangerous for Turkey. 1t
is the quarter where Russia strike the quickest
and to the heart. (Cheers) We have seen that q
twelve months and we know that when the Russians,
on former occasion and in other circumstances,
n hat rio - Ana
tria is prepared to inerpoe supported by the Allies;
and, in fact II is tho point where attack could
provinces doubt Russia has acquired in that quar-
ter strong Fortress which, from its position jut
for warlke and aggressive purposes From this posi-
ton however, the Danger Of attack Constantine
and p to
Turkey from that direction, Russian army would be
carried from the base Of their operations that it
would be work of infinite peril. (Hsar, hsat) do
not there danger from this point but like any
attack that might be made from the Danube it would
quire much time and be exposed to much resistance
Hear hear.) But how STANDS the matter with tina
Black Sea- Why, sebastopol is not more than forty
eight hours sail from constantinople. Hear, hear)
The honorable member the West hiding told how
easily Russia could obtain any number OF ships and
Of the largest size constructed upon
States (Hear Then, win any one tell me that If Ru!
STA had aeet Of that kind aud an army at ssbsstopo
she could not In the shortest possible time have that
army taken TO CcnstantinopleS (H.ar, hear.) The
right honorable gentleman says We might fortify the
PVihsS ou suc DiaCk oot ucer o
Copstsntnople where army could be landed with ease
unless there was large force to oppose Hear hear
The right honorable gentleman said it would require
greater naval than Russia possesses transport
such an army Why, sir, what have done Since
the 1st OF January We have landed les 900 and
$4,000 horses In the Crimsa In ten days we conveyed
5000 Turks from Varpa to Eupatoris Nothing the
world would be more easy nothing within the
that Russia would readily possess TO land in
the shortest space of time large force either at Con
santnope or at some point ON the Turkish shore othe
Black Sea further north than the capital say then
that that the greatest danger to which the turkish
empire exposed. But then it is said. "oh, but you
should have adopted the Russian PROPOSAL There
two Russian prop0sals-one to open the Straits
and the otte 70 shut them. Some honorable gentls
for the one proposal and others for the
other thrk however, that tie opening Of the Straits
is pretty well given up by everybody except the honors
Bile member for the West Riding, who tells us that
they ten miles wide, instead Of two could
have any right TO stop ships Of IN passing up and
down and u at therefore it seemed % him natter Of