The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1855-07-26
THE DEBATE IN THE BRITISH HOUSE OF CON
MONS OF THE 9Th INSTANT.


tions Of Lord John Russell aud Count Buo the Austrian
Minister OF State, were again reviewed;
Mr. Miner Gibson then asked for explanations from the
government relative To tho position Of her Majesty
isters the views Of their colleague the late British
penpotentary at the Vienna conferences With refer
the plan proposed by Austria TO be submitted to
Russia for the purpose OF putting an end to the Russian
preponderance in the Black stated in the circulars
addressed by Bnol the diplomatic agents of Aus
ra dated May 25 he eontended that the House had
had all the information before il with respect to the
rous conferences and that they had not the means OF form
ing opinion upon ~ emf information however, had nov
and then leaked o., and ibis was case IN point He
therefore, asked the government what was the policy the,
pursuing and what objects they propose 10 accom-
ph by the seeing the blood they were spilling and
the they wasting? lie conended that he
justified in asking for this information at the present
moment He expressed opinion that there was a di-
vision Of opinion in the government upon the objects Of
the war; and he founded this opinion upon Count Buol
circular for if that document was correct Lord Palmer
ston stating in Parliament that the war would be
ried with vgor whilst Lord John Russell was endsav
orng effect peace. The Emperor Napoleon was, ac-
cordng speech from Sir James Graham willing to &C
cepl the solution referred consequently upon Lord Pal
rested the responsibility OF continuing the war
He believed the government had concealed objects In view
and that if the Sebasopol expedition ended IN disaset
the responsibility must rest upon the heads 81 those WIS
planned ii.
Lord John Russell commenced his reply by denying
assertion the effect that the objects OF the
restore Poland and Hungary. This country had
held out such idea Reviewing the relative posi-
Of Russia and Turkey and comparing their resources
il had always appeared 10 him that the end OF this
be not merely treaty between the present bellge
ents but general treaty. in which the powers of Europe
should take part and in which they would each give
y for the maintenance Of the integrity and independence
Of Turkey. Having such views, 1t obvious that he
consider the cooperation of Austria MS of the highest
value To gain durable peace We ought to have Aus
tria Prussia and the States OF Germany parties to gene
raj alliance by which Turkey would be secured against
aggression Having stated these views, be came to his
mission Vienna Before proceeding there he stated ha
conviction to Lord Cowiey that it remain with the
two governments Of Great Britain and France to decide
upon what terms safe and honorable could be
cluded in Vienna appeared 10 him that the argument
diminishing the number of the ships Of Russia with the
security by general treaty the land against an ad
vance of Russian armies would have afforded great
curity peace This his opinion in Vienna and
his opinion He should add that Austria willing
make this alternative to the proposal for limitations
and if Russia refused both proposals the Austrian
| bassador to leave ST. Pctersburgh in eight days
and the Austrian army TO be placed in position to
| commence He had hesitation in saying that the
statements in Count Bnols circular correct He sta
had instructions agree such terms but
he added that his own opinion was that they might be
ceped and he would his hest endeavors to put them
before the British cabinet in such light might lead TO
That promise he certainly performed He stated
the government the details Of the propositions They
deliberately considered BY the cabinet Everything
he said had due weight; but the to the
conclusion that they would not lead to sale peace and
therefore, they were not adopted. The government OF
France came the conclusion The Austrian guva
hereupon declared that they ready to Car
ry the four points into effect but they did not think the
third point admitted Of only solution. They OF
tnat the mode OF 6OlutOQ WDcn was augEe0ed
sufficient security to Great Britain and Franco but,
since it had been rejected they did not feel themselves
bound by the terms Of the treaty of December I'd to
war with Russia. He asked why, having held
these opinions-and which now Interchangeable
manned in office with the present government? He adj
mitted this very natural and proper question: and
his to it this: That there had been many
changes of government just before that he believed that
he should have been doing great public injury he had
not remained in. He might have been wrong in this; but
he believed that he acting properly in the discharge OF
his public duty by remaining in Office.
Mr. Golden said the noble lords speech wSs Of the
mos, extraordinary made in Parliament Why had he not
been the first himself state in that House that the terms
submitted by the Austrian had his approval
and that he still approved Of them Why had he surren
dered his judgment TO his celeagues He had really alb
dictated his character for consistency by retaining his seat
in the cabinet under such circumstances, while he had
struck the very foundation Of all confidence in public
and rendered it impossible 70 carry on the system Of
representative governments He had forfeited his title to
the confidence of the people by not resgning his office the
NJ Drouyn de Lhnys, when he found he could not
in honesty and good faith, fulfil his promise to Count
uo Do not let the House be frightened by threats Of
change in the ministry What was the subject Of the
war; The government had not stated III he therefore
asked the country whether they were prepared TO continue
to allow it to drift on in course SO destructive, which
would inevitably lead to disaster?
Lord Palmerson denied that anything had occurred in
the Vienna negotiations to weaken the character of public
in the estimation of the country Lord John Russell
had pursued course emineny becoming HMM his posi-
ton and his whole conduct had shown that The did not
wish remain in Office except from desire to his
country AS the penipoenary to Vienna, he had only
discharged his duty in laying the Austrian propositions
before the House While member of the government he
justified in supporting them; but of course he must
be bound by the decision Of the majority, which the
only way by which parties could be kept together. The
proposal rejected by the allied because it
held out security for peace The objects of the
10 curb the ambitious designs Of Russia towards
Turkey, to secure Turkey from her aggressons, and,
through Turkey to the tranquility of the world
He repeated that blame attached Lord John Russell
for his conduct and with regard to the government he
denied that their rejection of the Austrian proposition and
the conduct Of the not acceptable to the country
Mr.. Roebuck expressed bis with the opn-
ions of Mr. Golden to the proceedings and character Of
Lord John Russell He accused the noble lord before the
Commons OF England of gross derelction of duty.
After further observations from Lord Cande Ham
ton Mr. Dsrae said the debate of this evening was
orabe and would long be memorable for the revelations
of a minister not eQuaed in the memory of any living
member of that House. The House had been Informed
that Lord John Russell had arrived pacific solution,
but that his solution had been accepted by the cabinet
Of which he member, and the given BY the
noble lord for it were less singular than his conduct
In Of these could he concur and partc
ulary not in that which left the question of peace
open question in the cabinet Now he wanted the House
say whether they for peace or war for without
that the could not be successfully prosecuted seeing
that the cabinet divided upon it, On such subject
ministers ought to be unanimous otherwise there
chance of vigorous action How such of things
to be described except by Ambiguous language and
certain conduc? The present position Of the House and
the extraordinary speech Of Lord John Russell had vind
eated the motion which he (Mr DIsrael had proposed
Yet the first member who had said non that was
he sorry say the right honorable Manches
ter He feared the effect Of the discussion consequent upon
the citation Of the noble lord would be found TO have
mos he If