The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-04-11

@ Have you converssd since the coroner's inquest
about thus cases A. Yes, have couvorssd with Wit
* but s.e:
q Was there subscription raised in tins First ward
to pay counsel in this cass A. Yes have subscribed
was required to do soft q voluntary undertaking
O. You spoke Of being with Gouray the morning
A No; DON'T think that Gourisy was . Cstaelie;
Holmes believe Is Protestant ON the nigh. Of the
tant con Of b-h; Gourlay was buried in Catholic
ground, and according to the rites Of the Catholic
Edward W. Derby, House Surgeon to the City Hospi.
tai examined by Mr.. Beebe, deposed-I remember the
reception Of pol ceman Gourlay, at the hospital
ferng from wound in the chest, between the second
and third ribs, the left side there were two other
back the last incised wounds; they were
all cut with some sharp Instrument the wound on the
did not think much of the wounds on the back and
Goaray WAS when sas s Srsus
mid. day on the 9TH Of November; post mortsm
examination was made, q. xhi: :s was IS, passnt;
and third ribs and nearly through the left lung tsat
Won nd caused his DEATH dirk knife would have pro-
duced wound of that description knife with blade
three four inches long might have produced such
wound.
Whether The sierior parts were ragged it such
wound might be made with KIN 70 with large blade
fecol ct from the lip OF the wound that II was clean
cut.
@ From the appearance of the wound you say
whether the lIiie in contact with the lang WHEN
josiah w. Brown, Aide IMAM Of the First ward, de-
posed knew Gourlay in his life time; know Me-
Holmes slightly; II.menber the night thar Gouray WAS
wouuied the opposite side CT the street At the
time: passing SO Green wich street, in company
with Jacob L. smitS, the night in question; number
Iy observed aolmes and two Others standing Ia the
street just after; l and Mr.. Smith had passed up
stopped, and Mr. Smith advanced to the parties then
heard one OF the policemen, in reply to que on OF
Mr. Smith, say that Holmes had rescued prisoner Of
lis he intended to arrest Holmes; with That the po
lceman proceeded to where Holmes stancing, and
eonveysate n; r. maned where was until saw per.
leave the crowd and run into house next door.
understood that dimes lived 10 the house into which
this maa ran; creased thu street and heard groau
from the who was Injured; then went home; did
not recognize who the policeman was; was not Lesr
enough 10 know that 1t was Gourlay.
Cioss-eyamined by Mr. Whitirg-Mr Smith and were
going down the west aide Of the street. we passed
the rot where Holmes stood Holmes and 40 psrsons
with him were s'andirg lev feet from the curb;
! recognized Holmes from his voice; could not
osgk; 'I't cid not hear distinctly vhss he said the
crowd on the other side was a iste above where
Holmes passed cso@
such noise in the crowd to attract my atten
ton as ervator Of tn. public peace; there was no
For &c NJ Nich.ern examined, by Mr. Beeee-I
physician and have been in New York twenty.
IN ne month q SoS.nssr last RESIDED .ss7 arssa
witch street; Remember the nsh of the ID of Noyem
|
in my eiRce, reading, and heard noise incsssautly
going paid attention this, q, it was elect,
lin until Heard the rap u po'csmans stick on the
pavement opened the window and looked out; 1t was
thick, heavy bisht and there was lam, burning at
ef the street which lived; two police officers
with man in charge sorg to the station house the
disturbance still continued at No. 90; helrj the voices
standing in the hall door In b shirt sleeves max
ing the most noise the off alter beng absent i've or
seven minutes returned and vent right INTO the cro Td
@ Did this wrangling continue until The of tie
officers a. Yes; this happened about twelve o'clock
short scue then ensusd in the crowd and out OF the
crowd the two officers with in front OF them
tie street; the had lis back towards aud
his face ards the officers heard the officer say You
are the WANT; the resistsd not to be
arrested; when he RICH. under the lamp the
who followed by the officers received blow; while
crossing the street they had no. bold OF one another
hesrd the sound and saw the motion Of blow the mo
nen he received the bow he rseled across the sidewalk
in front Of No 81 he fell right ia front the store fall
that tine the officer his tight followed HIN up; he
SoptH GoMa III - to arrest him and a. sne
ing 81 am stabbed" 'Oh how it hurts" aai al
shah have to die"; saw the blood on the sidewalk
the rext morning. at that moment the ths
Psvenen. got up ana ran into No So; tn. other
officer, who the stabbed then raped for
struck the blow; the man who was st,sbed stopped over
The enc on the g'atng ss to AXE up in the &C.
Of stopping he stabbed; have doubt in my mind
that blow was first struck saw ami heard II; can
say that tlow struck for certain did not
| tne MIN WsO Wal staDpeu hIlho q DlOW Wild weapon
at Al. lie mi. 1t have it tss other side where
| was derk could not see there; the who got
not suci, nifty for me 70 recognize the faces Of any
ore; was not able to distinguish any weapon, but
noticed di.tnc'ly the cound Of the club.
Cross tSamir ed -Iw' hosirg out OF the window Of
he second story; The accused was nearly under my
eyes; was en- tie east side; 4! little to the left,
the LEI, Of me- thst The rays light saicieot
for me TO vb,n they got under the lamp when the
ocerf returned they the street very FAST the
other I,rsorsI saw when the officers came back we're
standing on tie steps Of No so; did not hear the
he VAS the man sy wan.a When tiny s' foosso tSs
man Up TO NY sfe of the ttreet, Of the officers
Of the and the 81 Of blow INT the
struck with The club fell partly the grating and step;
mere sr was s no s b"d uis ate, the ma, raised
| Of the blood that night from my window,
but .. the blood cane from the man that
struck w,h the club taken away from Ns house BY
Q bio. With club twenty. two inches long aud one
ELECTS Of such blow? A. It would have two effects,
perhaps, exciting ami stunning him; the ar,t effect
sms,hing de,IerAte; the latter would only have the
effect OF rendering him senseless.
Broadway remembers the night of tho 80 OF November;
had Teen in Greenwich street from Ave o'clock until
twelve that night in the negnborhood OF So Green
wieh street the time of the occurrence about 1i
O'Clock that night Alderman Brown and my self were
gope nome; coming past NO 90 Greenwfch street we
five six at tie door; heard fast
walking bshind ", and farming around saw Off yer
and deceased coming up Holmes there, and
stood the gutter 1toa ocer sheehan that there
was nothing the matter one oil the officers rswered
me- saying there something the matter, that Holmes
hsd rescued a prisoner from them; at that time Mr.
Holmes walked about half way into the middle o. the
street. deceased said there Mr. Holmes now, and will
go and srrest him: and while deceased walking
towards Homes the latter walked the way to Mr.
shelys cotton store the deceased wal.ed very slow
tswares Holmes; than Hou es put his hand into
his PICKETT into lis breast pocket sung out 70 deceased
look out for a pistol don't think he heard me; the
nextthng Isaw the eecea ed falling the side wiik
Q Where you standingS A. In the middle Of the
4 street,
Did you continue look asceased and Holmes to
| time esteatte f,lE A. No did not, but saw the de-
| eessed failing; ] then Off Ter Sheehan having .