Minnesota weekly times., 1855-11-03

which he did, told him it was forged, and he
/ % him and hs'vould pay for ii; iasked him il
Ehs had any move he sald he kedn,t but eps moFe
l--the roef he had raised monoy on, baid'k W
no dispoeition TO take me to Mnneaota1 all ~
wanted vass bis pay, and then pointing TO my
band, ,6u6s hesaid "now old fellow, ,1e'ySgot you
tight, and will take you to Minnesota, and you'll
look through stronger iron than those, unless you
settle with u.s." l said owed him nothing, and
| asked him how he wanted | should settle he
said he had my paper, or drafts, for twenty $20,-
600, and that it would cost me that round sum to
get out, unless settled, l said had rather give
irons he said they were going to take me out OF
the State of Miehigsa, then they woald give. me
u chance to settle, that they would stop, to give
me chance to send back to my friends, and get
funds to settle with that they had instructions
to settle from Gov. German, if chose to- doit;
remained silent for while, and then asked one
of them--don't remember which, as they changed
seats with each other two or three times during
the night--what they took me of for in this way,
and said believed johnson was at the bottom Of
the whole thing, and that he HAL, would get
| himself into trouble. e e st hars9i f.tro
| He said finally that he had been persuaded into
it by other parties, and he said be was sorry for
| it, and that he had been under the influence of
| other parties said it was drive of johnson to
get mo out Of Detroit during Court week, and
that he (HalD would be sorry for the whole of
this before he got to the end Of it; be said-You
have get it about right; johnson has got you on
bail here, and he wants to get you out of town to
forfeit the bail, and, to be honest about it he
gives us $500 to get you away; shortly after,
told him he had better take the handouts of and
act like "a man-that if he didn't should follow
him to the end of the earth; pretty after, he
took the irons of, using key for that purpose );
it was near or at Marshall; Rorson was sitting
|
supper together at Marshall; we talked the thing
over along the road, but said nothing new; (wit
ness was here shown drafts numbers forty EIGHT
and forty-nine; said he never saw them till they
were shown to him by the defendants, and never
made them was also shown Rorison's letter to
him about the drafts-pOst marked st. Paul !;
| knows the handwriting we'll; It's from Rorison;)
| received notices of protest to the amount of
$2l 500 up to the time of the arrest, and since
| then have receivad some $2 500 more; part from
New York and part from Minnesota. 81
Cross examined by MIR. Lothrop-Rorison, at
| the time of my first conversation with Hall in the
cars, sat, think, the opposite side of the cars
| about two seats ahead when he came and first
took his seat beside I'VE might have been miles
from the city; he then sat with me till We got to
Dearborn Hall at that time occupied position
somewhere else in tie cars: it was before R. sat
down beside me that Hall first showed me the
drafts; before we started from the depot, R. sat
cars; when l asked Hall why should send him
those drafts, he replied he thought perhaps 1 was
| crazy; he gave no other explanation | declared
them to be forged when he first showed them to
me after looking at them; don't know said
to him who thought forged them; after Hallre-
sumed his seat by my side at Dearborn he changed
once, l think, between there and Marshall; l told
him then that was sorry had accused him of
forging those drafts as l had changed my mind
and nv suspicious then pointed in another drec-
ton don't think | mentioned any names; don't
| know as he said that he had that " one other
drafto which he mentioned, with him, but | sup
posed from what he said that he did this con
versation was after we had passed Ypslanti am
perfectly that Rorison had the first talk with
me between Detroit and Dearborn, for he said if
l would settle up might get off at Dearborn /;
don't know as l said in my direct examination
that r. made this proposal; he told me this, and
also said they would take me out of the State be-
fore they stopped they refused to stop at Ypsi-
lanti last saw before this arrest-Iiall the last
of juno at Galena, and Rorson about the middle
of August, near Lake Station the Central
Road cars; he told me he was on his way to Min
nesOta, being under arrest and in custody of the
Marshal; had not seen either of the parties since
the time have mentioned; Hall lived in Minne-
sofa, but Rorison had told me short time pre-
vious that his wife was at her fathers in Michi-
gan, and that he was about starting for the
Rocky Mountains to be gone four years; don't
know of my own knowledge where either of the
parties were in the mean time had had some bus
mess with Rorison and his father last December,
having sold them the right to use and make Nor
rison's Shingle machine for half of Minnesota
Territory; they never made any complaint to me
that the machine was not what represented it to
be or that other parties had claims to the Terri
tory which | sold them since the arrest, Mr..
ROrison, senior, has made such complaints to me,
but not before the last of May the first of June.
| sold Hall three-eghts the Territory of Mime
sofa; also sold Mr.. Carlos Wilcox one eight of
the Territory; about the time of this last sale,
sold MIR. Proper eighth, also about the
same time-tbink this was jointly to him and Mr..
Wilcox; l also sold Smith and Bontman one
eighth, before | went to Minneso:a-abou the
middle of May; also sold one-eghth to John Ii.
Kelly in May-sOld to no else; these sales are
all for this machine, and all for the portions of
Minnesota, which have stated.
(Iere Belden was shown a letter, } l wrote that;
it is dated New York; don't know certainly wheth-
er was in that city not; don't know as can
give any good reason why can't say positively
where was when that letter written; was in
New York, at Avon Springs and other places about
the time this letter was dated; don't know where
| mailed the letter; recollect now that sent
that letter by private hand, and now think was
at Avon Springs, OF between there and Detroit
and now can state why dated it New York;
had received protest on one of these drafts, and
having seen some drafts in Rorison's possession
in Minnesota in the spring, which thought were
forged, or something was wrong about them,
Immediately thonght this draft came from the
same source, therefore dated it at New York to
make him think that | was there; wrote letter
to him from Chicago think have no positive
knowledge, but l presume | did; these drafts
which | got then-two | Think have lost;
laid them down in the basement of mill while
at work, and lost them; they purported to come
from man named Rogers; they were protests on
drafts purportng to be drawn by Z. Beiden & Co.,
on the Metropolitan Bank.
received letter from Hall some three weeks
ago, enclosing protest of draft; when was
receiving these notices of protest wrote no one
in Minnesota about them, except one letter to
Hall enclosing protest, and asking him some
question what it meant; this letter from him
was in reply to that, | think, | mistrusted the
source of all these protests and therefore wrote
no letter to New York, but thought would keep
quiet and the matter would work out after
while; had no knowledge concerning them, ex.
| capt what derived from the protests and from
the two letters which r. G II. wrote to me; be-
lieve l received no other letter from Hall about
these drafts, except those which have been already
alluded to; (shown some drafts) never saw any
drafts payable to the order of e.. Wilcox, and
signed E. Beden and j. Lee Rorison, and know
nothing of any such; (shown two more draft, da-
ted Detroit, Sept Ii, payable to the order of
Carlos Wilcox. by Winslow, Lakey & Co., No. So,
Wall street. N. Y, and signed by Z. Belden and j.
| Lee Rorison) never saw these drafts before-nev-