New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1855-02-10

.ss. oooesiDg the appointment OF e,mn a ~. .soo
1s q ne other ground. he found, upon rensos s
4W ~ inppossibie for him 10 urge fhn oys nJs
~ s6set Reminding the House OF inc ca ~ 5sr;av
nsfeess;on in the war DEPARTMENT. he steseu
he rsee,s, 1t bad struck him III orsS and he pro-
Son Of those Departments was tqo,sU I'D ib,r.
cesetd TO read correspondence 70 =; ,h eou "a. az
deem and himself upon this suyec,- IN ~ ~ 49,
vhicb be suege-ttd, az esrIy as the I.,n " ro IN
h.r ibst before Parliament met the seals OF the war
Department should be placed In the haaas OF D,u
Paine r.for-sssigDing bis reasons conn ,ehuay 70
Io,d Aberdeen. without throwing any blame upon
a. IJuks Of Newcastle. Lord Aberdeen did not
concur in this proposal, and his Lord johns only
Soubt va whether he should not then have relin'
guthed office; but he had adopted the aasice
ar Lord Palnerston, and determined 10 contaae
bis connection with the Governmeut-hayiog
communicated to Lord Aberdeen his views as
70 the chaDgss in the War Department whicn rs
deemed Indispensable TO remedy 10 inPeriecaons
in dealing With the motion Of Mr.. Roeouck, ne
was, however, bound TO reflect whether he c'ulo
fairly and honestly say 1t Is true evils do ex oa'
sutb Arrangements have been made tnat Gil oe1,
eiencies and sbuses will be imrne distely remed'ea;
and he could not honestly or without Defrayns t9e
confidence reposed in him, make that statement hs
ooptidered that be could come TO only one eonclu-
sjoI-tbst g. he vss unable 10 give the only ans yer
that would stop inquiry il was bis duty not to remain
smtmotY Of the Government. Accor tingy, on the
23d Of January he placed in the hands OF Lord Ao-
deem lie resignation, which was accepted py her
Ms.sfy. There was report, he observed, that the
sueeeston he had made to Lord Aberdt en- IN Novefn-
Der TO place The ais Of the War Department In me
hands Of Lord PalmerstOn, had BEEN adopted. II w.
be wss glad be said that lis retirement had contrib
uttd 10 The change.
Iord Palmersion said it might be expected he
should not allow the address Of bic noble friend TO pass
without some observations on the part OF the G'yern
uebt He assured him and the House THAI noth'ns
could be more painful to himself officially aad pet
,opslly than the step Lord John had felt It 10 be hs
duty 70 take. He admitted that puolic msn h1a u
reject right 10 quit oAce Whenever he consi1eici
hat his continuaoca in Office could not ne rec)Dcsd
with his sense Of duty When tue correspondence
between LORD j. Rus ana Lord Aberdeen was con-
rpppjcated TO him he Horo Palmers on with hi. c,i-
leagues urged Lord John not to secede from the CIV
eminent and be consented TO remain; put IRON tuae
fine bis noble friend did not revert to his PROPOSE
He admitted that Lord John might have MAJ diff
entity in meeting Mr.. Roebucks motion, on' u was
evident he thought that there were 10 his MIND sum
Gent constitutional objections to that motion; ano u
he was decidedly Of opinion that different person
ought to be at the head Of the War Department, he
should have given the Government al oPpor.am.y,
before Paran ent met Of saying whether the proposal
thould be adopted The course he hsd taken was not
in accordance with the usual practice OF public men,
ard wss calculated to place the Government LII po-
eition of embarrassment
Mr. Rotbuck then rose to move for a select COM
uilee 10 il qure into the condition OF the British
army before sevsstopo and isto the conduc' OF those
departments Of tie Government whose DUTY IL naa
been to minister 10 the wants OF that array lac
melancholy condition Of the army, he observed, h@i
been acknowledged by Lord John Russell, who had
confesstd that he was unable as Q Munster Cf tue
CrOWu, 10 Tetlet tub mOuOk Stb Al tuo oouAo oic"o,
he had declared that he should net support the mo.
ton by speech vote. The question divided Itself
into two psris-frst, what was the cor dton OF The
sTmy before Sevastopoli the second how tnat condl-
ton had been brought about With respect to tue
condition Of the army there could not be two opn-
ioIs all be bad TO do therefore was to submit to the
House that inquiry was necessary to ascertain what
were The causes by which that condition had been
brought about They had cent 81 600 soldiers properly
equipped, who had done all they could to uphold the
honor ofhe country At present there we're not more
than 600 bay onets before SevasopO Whist had be-
come Of the ~ 600 lie believed that the condition
Of the amy had been brought about by the incapac
ity ct home ard abroad, of those whose duty it was
TO Minister to its " arts.
Mr. s. Herbert in resisting the motion, observed
that the first Of the demoraiz atou Of the army
wss TO he found in the system pursued for the last
40 years. The English army was collection Of regi.
meimspts sysem; but the fe officers in co nun md
Of the regimt nts had never seen brigade, and we're
unacqusDted with the organization Of large bodies.
The men, too in that highly civilized country never
learned 10 do anything for tbemsaves They had
never entered upon any great war; he remarked,
which old not begin with great reverses; but IN the
prestnt instance there had been also great military
tuccessts. After detailing the measures adopted by
the Government to provide adeqas,e supplies OF
stores for the army he coni5ded that it was unjust
without informaiisn, to lay blame upon absent
men. The Government had no wsh to con-
eeal any portion Of their conduct in this ms.ter,
and every information required should be laid
upon the table of the House. lie insisted
that great delusions upon ms suolect Pfevdied
n The country. He detailed the steps takea
to remedy defective arrangement by the Government,
which had acted he said upon every raotcsbe .ug-
restion. He tn6eavored TO show, upon various
grounds the inexpediency of the motion, which
calculated in bis opinion, to paralyze the action of
the Government at home and Of the authorities abroad
The Committee would either gain no infor nation, orit
would be obtained at the expense Of the army. He
atktd the House, if it made up its mind TO take this
copree 10 avow II at once by PLAIN and Ineligible
decision. The Government stood in prec nious po-
s,ion it had received heavy blow by the secession
of one of its most important members, and he hoped
the House. considering we'll the course it ought 10
take. and the perils which surrounded the oouatry
would decide the question at once, and IN plain han
gusge. ..
petepcy Of men thai the army was left to
perish and he wanted 10 know who 1t was, and this
could not be known without information. He should
have thought the Government would BE- the first TO
thank Mr.. Roebuck for this motion. Mr. Dru nmond
dwst ut considerable length upon various instances Of
nsmansge ment in the war standardization.
Mr.. Mines considered that the evils complained OF
wee the resut of long system of public neglect,
the correction Of which required strong aud vigor
Gus Administration He opposed the motion. No
one, he thought, could believe that committee WAS
fair and proper tribunal for tuch an inquiry.
The Msrquis of CRANKY oigressed into the question
of the policy Of the which he condemned, being
convinced that the Emperor Of Russia never intended
TO sexe upon the Ottoman Empire, and that the main
tepsnce OF the balance Of power ia Europe was not
the real object OF the war.
Mr. w. Lindsay said, the Government would
rot adopt the measures he thought necessary he
should give his support to the motion. Another
ground was that large portion of the noble army
IN the Crmea had peiished. he believed through
elect. third the state OF the transport
service.
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