New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1855-05-09

heads "a the hands; to facilitate the mechanical sd-
vnnoement Of the colorcd people. The question IL.
Have VIC nj this tine in this country the necessary
frcios for the mechanical education OF the children
Of dusky hue If there dOors open. or If there
Lc any better means than the establishment OF
mechanical school, let NJ know it, He had seen u
stated in paper in this CITY thnt was once indorred
bv the cOloTed people Of this country, tnt IN h 'y
there were ample facilities for training coored me
chnnics II this be true Why here such school i ho
needed. But in his locality no snch hein,y was
in existence He knew that even IN his own one ne
Ind great difficulty in introducing coored boy !"
work at the side Of white men. II tins
school shoud prove exclusive would, as ne under
stood IT, lie the fault Of the whites ana not oil inc col
ored reorle The question l. this really practical
- HE Nan - depends upon the amount Of riH which
tbr coored reoplo bring TO the work. OF the money,
lie did not for moment doubt that sum ample
enough for all purposes could be raised; $1,000, he
believed would be enough 10 start this school. With
his tlev might not be able to teach every branch Of
mechanic art in the start at first they might have
basket-makers COOPER and such simple crafts they
only wanted n beginning. Ob5rlin did not fail be-
cause they blended the classics with physical labor
but because they allowed the student 10 study without
labor if he pleased, which produced arstocracy,
that looked down upon the poor boy who toed a. the
workbench well as studied the classics. He con-
tnued Our object il to make labor honorable; aud if
enter upon the work with determination to
oeed succeed we shall. The process of making
bodstead or bureau in such a school is the same
in the workshops of the city, and the boy might
learn much and he thought more, where both his
mind and muscle were educated, than where only his
muscles were brought into play.
Mr. DuFFIs had supposed that Sc, 900 or 500, 900
would be required to establish such school, but it.
a. Mr. Douglass had said, IS 900 would start such an
Institution he would advise the several State Councils
TO establish one in each State, at outlay Of $1,000
$40 600 for each. He thought such plan would be
better than to start colossal college at vast expense
with the almost certain prospect of failure.
~ - ,coA.o, t,,ly h,o ooot
Mr.. ToPP Of Albany was Of opinion that taking
this State through, and the States Of Ohio and Massa
chusetts as whole the coored children could not get
All opportunity TO learn mechanical trades, and if they
could learn they could get no opportunity to labor, on
account of the antipahy of the white journcymen. In
his shop the white Ourneymen talors who worked
for him struck against his employing cOlorcd men.
Mr. Topp believed that there is grave necessity for
the establishment of such school, The fast is, the
most opposition il met with from the so-caed friends
of the colOrcd people, who say, why You who are 80
strongly opposed to caste schools, and caste dstinc
tions are about to start such school yourselves. To
meet this inform them that the caste distinction,
if any, is on the part of the whites; our Council have
resolved tina, no such distinctions shall exist among
Mr. GTO. T. DowsISG was not able TO see clearly
the practicabity Of this plan. There is and the truth
must be spoken too much apathy on our part. We
might if we pleased, find plenty of opportunities of
learning Uhuth ana WORKING AT lhcln hItcrWdru. bt
enumerated many instances in proc. Of his position.
The only argument that could be advanced in favor OF
this school that il might tend TO induce colored
PEOPLE 10 feel tie necessity of educating Their children
10 trades The natural tendency of proscptive meas
ure5 il Oppressive. An instance of this kind shown
By the schools of Worcester where, at the wish Of the
coored citizens, separate school was started. and
failed. Such, he thought would be the fate of the
Manual Labor School.
Mr. STEPHEN SMITH of Philadelphia said that
most Of the coored mechanics in Philadelphia had re-
ceived their education in the South and he knew that
the colored people of the City Of Philadelphia could not
obtain opportunity TO learn mechanic trades. But
wherever a colored man understood n trade, he was
sustained in Philadelphia; mud Mr.. Smith hoped the
Report would be adopted.
DR.. PENNINGTON thought that the colored people
ought to do their part in educating men with the
whites the white people established schools for black
and wlte-why should not the colorcd people start
schools and workshops for white and black :
Mr.. j. f. Brown of Elmira nsanced several colored
workshops and workmen in Elmra where white and
colored were employed; in many cases colored me
chancs were unable to get coorcd boys to learn their
trades He believed that colored mechanics could
always find employment.
Pending the debate the Council adjourned to
7lP.M.