The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-11-30
The John Street Church DImculty.


HEARING BEFORE BISHOP SIMPSON AS ARBITRATOR.
The suits arising out OF the attempted removal
OF the John street Methodist Church came up for
bearing yesterday, before Bishop Simpson, Of Pitts
burg, the arbitrator by stipulation Of both parties, in
the basement OF the church. The titles Of these suits
are, The First Methodist Episcopal Church the City
Of New York, in the Of Elliott Z. IApham and 9th
ers against James T. Barnes and Others and "James T.
Barnes and others against BEN amin w. Benson and 9th
ers both suits brought in the Supreme Court The hear
ing in both Of the above suits taken together
at twelve o'clock there being at this time about
6y members Of this church interested in this case
Counsel appeared for the opposite parties In both the
suits The points in issue In both these cases are 1
Whether the John Street Church shall be sold new
church erected town; and, d. Who the trustees
Of the cbuTchy
The procee ings of the day opened with prayer
by Bishop simpson.
Counsel for plaintiffs msde statement Of the course
II these In the supreme Court, ending with
order thai he whole ma should be referred TO the
church itse and accordingly IL agreed the
referee but Arbitrator and his decision should be
binding and forever sete all the questions In dispute
Was then agreed tina the proofs shoaid 90 presented
Sas in, the Bishop would intmate In what order he
would hear council
MIR FAucaer then opened the case In q brief speech
saying that The why the six trustees for whom
appeared wanted 10 up town manly because the
congregation could not afford to sustain church down
town.
The Offering Of testimony then commenced, in the
shape u deeds tides and records running back 10 1888
Tbs~e original deeds Ia the possession OF Alderman
Denmsn who, being said he held them Presi-
dent Of the Boaa Of fusees that he had hsse
deeds for the last SIX months. Tue frst Of these deeds
GATED in l7ts trs. Iced donating the property 10
be used for church forever and upon this trust tho
three dissenting trustees IN part base their opposition
TO selling this John stree. property and removing up
town
A volume was then introduced as the record Of tho
members Of the church from Il. Grst days, and
- a
been Iasor Of the John street church from 1854
'55; there . record Of this church this record
shssn him the main record II contained q list Of
the members OF ths church. besides this record there
elias. records which con.sised tbs proba
this record contained the names o. probationary aI.o
u i hook viii show Who msnbers 1855 during
tie car 1854 should think that fifty average
ndance of the Members both male female at each
vice and ceuntiog visitors and s.rsng-s one hun rei
va about ,he Ay.rag' ausndAnss cannot s.y whsr.
usmbers from Sabbath TO sabbath don't think could
recc gnixe more than half the congregatian.
CrUs-exsn,nee-f moved mp town TO Twenty dfh
street lat April I moved iuto the house the trus
tees hired for me; eli not move thre conts npat-
ing sale Of this property DO not know that the
has been paid have no, paio ~ do not know tina, the
trustees have paid II; o. the officers Of the church
ripce have lived here ha. paid me about 500 for
viess do not hnow that have had any convsrsation
Nth The trustees a. any time about the sale Of this
church.
y heafing should BE- adjourned at 8 O'Clock tin IL
next Saturday.
lbe rrntssNsnfnsfton ~ fEv Mr. mare vas then
III u.d-l don't think the average congregation Ia NAY
lisa beyond me hun ned In thia number i.su IL
Tie attendance q Sabbath school members supplied
the pulpit here b procuring Rev NJ Tisbsts who va
appointed here by the Board o. Trustees 'requsniy
vied NJ. Rnsou's Office ! -as aware that he .ss
"p,es nv rausn.s Il favor Of rernoriar up town.
I do not rscolect that procured sigr starss -
apaper 10 favor of irg mp town, the name Of John
smith appear upen this ~ ord az probationary
Ser, the name 81 NJ. ncD.nt does not appest here;
NE nsms q Georga ws'on appear. here bat hi. name
T. ma lei removed without cer,ibcxte.p think
recnr6ed lfs from n'ormz ion received at LADDERS
nteiirg; the Of Mr.. Moore u up1n this book .
probatgfer he ~ james r. BARNES appears hers
a. msuibsr 10 god standing; DO moi hni the mans
~ 1h"mss Meissfy furnished the trustees with ist
Of nsinerr previous 70 the application Tor order 70 sei
MS property
Ply NJ. fsucher--Tha trustees tried get ms a hpuss
down town before gsftiug my house a. Twenfy-hnh
srtet, out ~ my salary paid NJ rbsss Tor hit
siesr; can't say hyw much ] have patio him: think
have pat him ESQ within two months I oae nams
sfdsd % this record snce Y ven cut o. nv hsn's
1bs meeting then adjourned TN IL O'Clock mex, Ss.
tardsy.