The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-06-08


he .sos h.v. ', oon,ussa her own interest and
ar but there were very considerable motives very
powerful moives urging her 20 maintain peace. Sne
bad not her capital in the stuaon Of London or Paris.
had fortresses suicnt to prevent Russian army,
II gained tory, from marching at once TO Wen
ma She had secure alliance with Prussia; and that
was one Of the main motives which had deferred her
ON tai ing active part In this Prussia, her
great ,ss mot e S:'d ns I as 20 out @
againa her riecs and endeauoring to gain them
(Bssr, hear Unless they could show that there
them to go 70 war the Austrian government felt that
they would not be justified in the face of the popa
% sss SSu,a into no, the snv To-
justice to Austria but because he not wish 70 hold
out hopes that might rot be verified, that Austria
however, shat her position SUCH and her treaty
with such, that II the continued
she So1ia find u Necessary IN to meet and van an
war OF this be et sore, that the part which Austria
had Played not ing shares in the spols OF Turkey
anc proposals which we had thoogst necessary, would
be forgotten by Russia and that her only ety
lay in buio pe up such alarces ~ secure Turkey
ana secure Europe (Hesr, hear He therefore should
be ready to vote against the motion which degraded
this great national cause not merely into party cues
ton r party question might be very at question:,
but into very limited and narrow party question
hssr hesr)a with respect TO particular con-
sust At .nd particularly
great matergerbaps Of the greatest national qnes
ticps WI ch debated In that house which had
engaged the coupcJs Of the empire which had ever
required the exercise Of the Of this counryo be
go degraded az this question had been (oheers) He
Lord kasse was IN ,ns parry
would be sad-in this great crisis of the fortunes OF
the country that the great conservative party wno for
up~er5s Of year. had with this greatest patr ottsm
come forward to support the and maintain the
honor Of the country by every vote they could give
that virtue that they though. there was an opportu
nifty Of Slipping into office In the place OF those then
there and that having lost an occasion which seemed
member Of the housee, they rushed forward in order
to gain the prize o. which they were ambitious Cheers
and aughter) He believed that thu right hone raole
gentleman and his friends would gain such prize.
Whatever might be result Of the div son ia point of
tl.men opposite (Hear) If they chose to poia. out
any act Of government the government was
open to censure any any they
might make But to b. ing forward vague words-(hear,
hear)-to ask for q vote upon what sssmsd to be the
feeling of the Mt and which might not last above
WRitsun holidays aughter)-or till the negotiations
were concuded-tbst such falling off in the pasri
ottm and virtue which gentlemen Opposite had hitherto
evpced that he really thought they would add nothing
to their tame by such a course. (Hsar)
On the motion Of Mr.. WHTHIDE, the debate was ad
journed.
The adjourned debate was resumed in the House OF
Commons on the 2bth ult, when after some speeches
had been made
Sir, beard the speech of my right hon. friend last
night (Mr GIadstone) with aoiration, doubt, but
with considerable pain becauee he appears not only to
condemn the conduct Of the war; bn in the concluding
portion Of his speech it appeared 10 me that hts
EXPEDITION to the Cssa and adverse to the terms Of
peace, on which we are compelled to conclude the
war; and yet my right hon. friend was party to al
stsnces aboaid, since be Quilted the government,
have entirely altered his opinions those subjects
Now, appears that there are two considerations In the
think We have not been sufficiently v,erous in the pro-
secution Of the war; and others who wiah to drive the
county into peace upon terms which think not
s,st Mt with the honor and interests Of the country
The justice and necessity Of the has been admitted
not simply from the unhappy events which caused
the rupture but during long PERIOD it has been the
susss to Tssser and cs1mSe down
openly Gvowed Of late that was policy Of Peter
OF sIine Of Alexander and of Nicholas II the
settled policy of Russia which broke out in such
to render further pasiveness part impos
thle am not required, then to defend this war; The
honorable member who has just spoken, that being
engaged in it We are bound to carry II on with
v,gor and ~ energy, ard to close It with d,
basis Of orerass-s. from their supplies and rem
foscrmentS; and there point to achieve which
would have produced any decisive reau. We wen. to
Crmea, and to the siege of sebsaopor because It
Jay; ana becauas, we had succeeded IL taking that
fortress and the aset We should have gwen security to
Yss.sy That being the that berg the blow
of local aggression, say the Crmea the place to
which our troops could be mset advsntageousiy sent
hands of Austria / think it was sound policy to a.:
cert the good Offices Of Austria, to &c. Ter upon
our SIDE il the fields, II We could or St all events,
have accomplished. II has NOS suited the policy Of
peace not only honorable but that shall accomplish the
purpoe is the protection OF Turkey not simply for any
fymPatby we may feel for Turkey but because the ba
lance Of power in which involves
the colossal power Of Russ from extend
ing over this vide and important territory. Well,
have been told that the war has done nothing We
ready to admit that beginning sudden With peace
war with great anagonistc power,
after forty years peace # was to be expected that there
should tic in the administration Of the different depart
merts, some msshaDces and mistakes which would
cason great evils But it has been said made great
mistake in going to the Crimes Sir, contend that
precisely the expedition ought to have undertaken to
bring the war to speedy and conclusion Why
Il we had hesserabia If army had catered the
Austria to declare herself active any bat have
her good Offices and the benefit Of her neutrality, in
armed posision which has been powerful military di
the Prncipalties, che had stood BY the Turks would
have been obliged to Keep large army on their frontier
support The convention between Austria and turkey
shut the door to from Russia and has enabled
Oner Pscha with that gallant army which repened the
Crnea More thauthat the Russian government have
been ,lged to keep considerable army the FROM
true to say that Aua,ra has BEEN advantage the
ell es Then, would 1t have been polite to retuss ths
Offices Of AUSTRIA TO obtain, If possible the con
sent of Russia to the terms settled between the thres
goverIments9 If We had refused them, we
should have deserved oensure and disappyobation.
But although negotiating at Vienna, had omitted
nothing which could possibly have bsen cone to prose-
cute the as If negotiations had taken place. And
what has been the result? We have feet which viii
blockade every Russian port in the Balsic We have in
the Black Sea feet equal to any servi,e required And
as for amy II is true that during the winter II vas
exposed TO great and lauentable suisr;ngs; but
happy to gay they are now over that army 10 In perfect
good, its equipments complete furnished with 81
the materials of war the commissar1at arrangements
are good the hospital estabshme nts excellent there Ia
nothing omitted. (Cheers) Our allies are strength.
ened; the French army has been reinfo.ced We have
the Sandman contingent, and large Turkish army
than something like 2o0,O0o men; and therefore,
so far from having relaxed in our preparations
for war, on account Of the negotiations, we have