The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-12-02

tables, &c, we're three times the price they were it
would make no difference to the position the iirm
wtre compelled TO take. He he speaker said that
Iy reducing wages the men would be lowered nearer
TO brutes than to Christians. Mr.. Clark said that
they che frm) would stand by themselves, and told
ITEM plump and plain, that u was n3t question
OF markets at all but question OF reducing wages.
NessIs. John Clark Co.-The overicoker wanted
Us 10 90 down and the master, but we thought II
was his place to send for us, il he wanted TO see Us
MessIs. Kelly ard Gilmour-They have all come
crit every one OF them. We began to come out at
three to-day, as we dotted aud finished the work; at
six they were all out. Another speaker:the shops
meeting is to conc off tomorrow night. Another
speaker:-On Tuesday morning, the overl0oker said
that pjecer and minder from each room must 60
to the manager. and tell him what they intended to
do. They replied that they wanted to see the mas
could net get him to ~ aver'' the reduction for
few months, until it could be seen how trade went
on. The manager talked to them and proceeded to
show the different prices Of other countries, and
Low he was paying Sd to 33d a thousand more than
o1her districts. lie said that if the hands did not
submit 10 the I'd. thousand reduction, The mill
world have to be closed altogether; that II once
closed they would not getin very soon without losing
arCtlcr Id that when the mill was started again it
would lie upon another system OF work ofwhich there
were ses eral-such as doing away with minder or
pieccr, leaving one mindef for two pair Of frames
il the men did not submit TO the reduction the mill
might lie closed for months The men persisted in
tleir wish to see the master, and when they saw
him he came in with one of the memorials in his
hand. He Glr. Gilmour) talked about short time
Icing no benefit to the masters in Manchester; FIR
while there were 1000 bales week consumed in
England, there were Only 1000 in Manchester; and
what good could shoit time DO on that2 But he
raid, /" this isn't exactly the snbjeet. You came to
he in 1863, when trade was good--it was very good
fer advance; gave it to you, and now want it
back; I'd thousand is what want. and II you don't
sui NIT shall be like to close the mill" Then Mr. Gil
mourtakod about men in other districts getting more
veg at ov er prices; ard he said he would go up
any system tie men liked, by which they could get
much the men in those districts, 80 that he got
lie I'd. thousand, without which he could not
carry on, for ii he was to strike balance at that
moment lie was rot gaining one fraction. But, he
said he saw they could come to no conclusion; SO
they the men) bad better let the notice run out,
and the mill be stopped. The men, added the
and notice had been put up that wages would be
paid tomorrow {this day. The speaker asked that
airy other of the hands present who recoected the
conversations fully, and could correct or add
| to What lie had said, would do so; and another
| speaker made statement, the most important
| point in which was that the men had told tue ma
nager, 'plrmp," that they would never work an
crease their earnings with lower rates Of wages
Hanover Mill Company The manager had been
at or two Of the men to mind two pair OF frames;
but the men said they would have nothing to do
with it. There were three in wheelhouse now; but
the manager wanted to do away with hinder,
leaving one minder and four piecers to two pair.
The feeling was such that ii the notice was not
Messrs. n. Birley & Company-A shop meeting
had been held on Tuesday evening, but there had
been no deputatioa TO the master or manager. The
men had resolved to cease work tomorrow (this
day., unless the notice was withdrawn. On twist,
the master wanted ten per cent off the men, or to
have only one minder for two wheelhouses. Ano-
Their speaker: There were eighteen pair Off them on
twist; and the manager had sent for them and
told them that the master was determined to
have the ten per cent and one minder of;
they would be able to get the same then as now
Several men declared that this call cOrrect')
ANOTHER SPEAKEa-- He has withdrawn the notice
to the caIdrtom and blowing groom hands, (Cries of
It's false. and "lts quite correctly We had no
notice tonight when we came away, but what we
were 10 start i'll the morning.
Tie CHAIRMAN said they could not interfere with
those hands, They Chose out upon strike) would
have to go round, marching arm aud arm just to
Ehs Sss asr smas a AP Rassasu rumusa ION
Tuesday week, iortnights notice was given for q
| reduction Of I'd per Thousand. The speaker gave
some long details, contendng that the reduction had
work last Wedn day. at the lowest or Warrington
price. Whey they got an advance it was OF ID. q
iloufand; but the masters now wanted it back, with
I'd. intei est.
ANoTnLR SpEAKER-There was shop meeting
ast Friday night, and we all determined TO come
ont with the rest.
ORIGIN OF THE DISPUTE AND GENERAL DIsTRUsT.
[lrm tire London Chronicle, Nov Is
The dispute which has been proceeding for some
time between the millowners and their workpeople
in Manchester, has at length hardened into strike
The voihmen in several mills have already left their
employment and others have intimated their deter
minatlon to act likewise, as soon as the work on
which they are at present engaged is finished. As
yet the stoPpage is confined only to eight mills, but
there is reason TO fear that it will become general
over the town: and il a compromise cannot be eli.
fCctod, of which ut present we see no symptom, we
fear that much misery is in store for that popuous
neighborhood.
Yet the differences between the employers and
employed are not Of kind which refuses to admit Of
con promise. As to the state Of the manufacturing
interest in Manchester there is dispute whatever
The men are as forward as their masters to admit
that trade is depressed, that profits low, that the
price Of the raw material he's increased, and that
work IN many instances can only be carried on at a
LOGS. Where there il such unanimity in the pre-
misses, enc would think there ocght rot to be any
duced. Bat, unhappiy the facts Of the case are
otherwise. The remedy of the employers is to re-
! duce the wages OF the men by triic more than
the advance they obtained in the favorable season
OF 1903, and which they have r@ained ever since.
| The men on the other hand Insist that reduction
OF wages is not at oil applicable to We present.
gency which has its rise in over production, but
that the amount Of production should be lcssened.
They therefore propose that the hours OF labor
should be shortened by onethrd so that the mills
should run forty, instead Of sixty hours week.
until the balance between supply and demand be
letter adjusted Unfortunately, neither party can
induce the other to come into their views and the
result is that accumulation of misery and dsaster-
q strike.
In the plea put forth by the workpeope. which,
We are hound to state is a fair and temperate and
lucidly arranged document great stress Il laid upon
the Eapprepfiatepess ola reduction Of wages at the
present time when all the necessares of life have
lisen and are still rising in price, There Is a me
lanehoy force in this appeal which cannot fail to
find its way to every heart. Bat, as an argunen
against reduction of wages. under the present
circumstances il is nearly worthless. Dear as pro-
visions may be, difficult as il may be to maintlin
family in the increasing scarcity of all the
Eeeessaries Of subsistence, we mistake the
indeIenden. spirit of the workpeople in our
manufacturing districts, if they would be
willing to accept the charity of their masters
to exc out their own scanty EARNINGS, which of
course the receiving cf more wages thaa they were
fairly canning would be equivalent to doing. Aud
the have cut the ground of any other plea from
! state OF nuiaetIring profits does not pay. Nor
doc. il seem TINT their own remedy Tor the egils