The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1855-12-04

A F1rcsidc ConfAb between Lords Palm erxtou

communicate 70 you the tenor OF conversation Which
took place short time SINCE between Lords Palmerston
and Clarendon. The latter went Sunday to take a
days rest at Broadlands the charming country seat
the noble Premier situated in the picturesque vlss OF
Hampshire, and 70 confer Familiarity with htm the
grave questions Of the moment "a the with
Enghh statesmen. the conversation took place in ths
Lord CLARENDON entering the cabinet of Lord Pamsrs-
ton, proceeded straight towards the fireplace. 81
delighted said the noble Lord ITO end such good rs
Lord PArMKRsros-You are Of a chilly temperament;
one has only 70 look at you to see it, II Parliament
street. shall take that there plenty OF
places 10 1t. This will be improvement within po-
htcal grasp. We must make that her Majesty
principal Secretary Of State not frozen to death
Lord CIAkxSDoN-t Is only you who preserve the
saore REQ. 2, q an advanced age and that too
perB sufhces Tn keep 1t alive.
Lord PALxmsToN-l have no need even Of that Ihave
my star, like my friend the Emperor
something to do with my shivsrs
Lord PALMERsroN--You are incurable He Ia the key
stone Of system just look at the folly Of what Ii
called public opinion! These imbecss the contnen
raise outcry against nnovator--Asa revou
ZIONIST because am for the French alliance and yet
am Of the old school The French amuse me- but con-
ss do not Ike the ,h rssnsa That Is why love the
Lord CIARRSDoE--ThAt Is just what frightens me.
Louis Philippe wss cunning old fox but for all that the
objects OF his policy laid bare. But try aud
find out what your friend Is aiming at You cleverer
than am II you can.
He Is prudent he has right to be viii you admit
Perssny TO our consultations q the Foreign caics
Lord CARxND0N-G0df forbid That would be folly in.
deed Since the time of Canning we have policy which
has become traditional and whchis known TO every
When the opportunity presents itself there are the thou
Intentions ard secrets. The game is not
an equal one with this tacturn monarch.
Lord PALMMsroN-Iook here, old boy, va must take
things By the practical end When came to the conclu
sion Of fixing the French alliance determined to &C.
minstrstionS Il would have cost too much trouble to
begin By ORIGINATING anew the character Of Louis Napo-
leon But what do yon mean by talking In this style
Have you bad news from CoweyY
Lord CfARnDoN-Psha That fellow loves his ease
much that evryhing 10 cou,snr de with hm No.
that little disputes and collisions Of opinion daily
coming more frequent. do not complain Of them be-
ting along With this alliance. Beaidss what have said
a. to the mpenetraby Of the Imperial policy enters into
'ns SrS % rS.are rsh VI, Ina. hi
the nail ON the head.
Lord GARxSDoN-what troubles me is that which
presses on us at the present moment.
Lord PALAnssroE-1hs scarcity of money-the dear
ness Of corn. We have escaped crises much alarm
Lord CLARESpoS-The exs from the Crmea L. not
encouraging.
Russians in circle Of iron from Ksrtch to Kinburn.
Lord GARENDoN-What fine phrase you have just ut
tered for your speech Of next session But will be
Gle Of iron The TACT t. simpson writes to Panmure that
the season is too far advanced and that have fur
i u
with Hardnge the subject this morning He says that
Gortschakod cannot be attacked and that not in
direction Of Our Juvenile e Masa
never been much OF an enthusiast Ia and have
marked that the present occasion the old Peete eaven
Lord PAIMxsroS-I do not deny the difficulty Of your
position In respect to the Parliament The takers will
have advantage But the country is dis
posed towards the It is enduring. We will talk
big about Se6astopol, Baibeck and Knburn When
0pUf n NM
Mons and even from the psrtisans Of eternal peace
s, h"sd .aa tina, very ns an sn
ruction of foreign fleets But the impression created
by illusions win be eaced with the echo Of the last
Lord PAIMERsroN- ALL It Is the country that In
sisted on the have been merely the executor Of
Lrd CLARENDON If the country should be in favor Of
the In 1866 that would be all very we'll We Just
the men for IT, J warn yon that our enemies want to
make us play hat role for my part, believe In the
gspizAtion ola coalition.
Lord PArMHRsroN be id. Should they get
up one shall confront II fearlossly.
Lcrd CLARENDON You never give up.
Lord PAinxssTos-I tell you that should not even
rave occasion to beat Disrael because he viii
venture 70 push matters to snch extremity There Ia
luckily but argument which Is really dangerous, aud
The tories will never dare TO lay hold it. The agu
is this The Minister makes England play secondary
part France dominates In the East. This contrast win
become the stronger as long rs the war lasts The danger
Il imminent II Ii still time to arrest IL. We ready
to make great sacrifice to save the country" With
this cry alarm Dsraeli might upset It would be
BILE Of such = conception. rney have not the bodnes
even to carry II out, II It occurred to them. Ny
the secret and ye. they are compssi to sios t. for
they know not what to Substitute for it. They the
flag Of the French alliance and ready to bend
deceived by these that Derby and
his party driven along against their will, and
with GOODNESS the danger Of the alliance that point out
t. ycu, and which ! never lose sight OF, because
alone neutralzs the ascendancy Of France by my
influence
Lord GAREsDoS-I sm well aware OF II. without you
game would be dangerous one, and even with you
an not without apprehension.
Lord PALMnsroS-Non du,i,ae rs our friends the
laszsropi say shsii answer for the man and II is
great pity that cannos In the way for
nations like the Americans for instance people who
both camor and govern. assure you, my friend. that
sometimes almost enthusiast In favor despot
ISM Nothing Is certain than that IL would have
been utterly impossible for Louis Philippe assisted
by Theirs to impose the French two war contingens
and our alliance.
Lord CIARrNpoy-The me- from America Is also IN.
favorable Buchanan Is not 10 practise the dplo
matte virtue OF Cancellation. lie makes political capital
OF this affair TO arrive NJ the Presidency.
Lord PALMrRsros-I prefer that. he will take some
nobody for Secretary OF State willis that old woman,
Pierce with Marcy al his elbow, gives US no peace.
have always had mortal apprehension OF American
Secretaries Of State and old Marcy plays devh close
game.
Lord CLARcDoS--For that reason look upon the
game as lost am hunting up expedcnt TO defeat the
OF the Clayton Bulwer treaty There
disguispg the fact, must In way the other
swallow the uimatam Of Marcy. In addition TO this
tear shall have ~ resaH Sramptop
Lord PALMERsTos--We come 10 thai ye,. Let
wait the effect produced by the OF the reinforce
nent OF the British West India squadron B,iiDess Ia
my favori,e weapon. have always succeeded With g.
When make flourish OF thai SORT people think that
have arrived at irrevocasle determination.
Lord CIARxyDoy-That II all very well In Europe, and
with weak nations especially; but those Yankee rcpubl
not people that you easily intim date. You
know thst consented unwngy TO this demonstration,
and that only condition that IL should be represented
merely defensive sgainst the 6iibusteros.
Lord PALMERsroE-I am sorry for that You will
q be demo nd veti 4
ought not 10 alarm you for you know thai decd
ed you 60 the whole animal la the way
cesson than risk st the present. moment,
with America. Let anime your despatch box.
The two noble lords had spent than hour In
inspecting the contents of the box, when q 0otman sp
prsed them that the guests had all semblei In Lady
Palmerston's saloon.
Lord CilRfSDos--0nc word ! ask Of yoa 70
assemble Cabinet. will longer bear alone all This
responsibility Panmure expressly charged me 10 teal
you that this II also his advica know tuAt Grey has
reques, ed the thing and Lansdowne writes 70