The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-12-06

sent in Europe and the unsettled condition Of every
ton earth he surprised there should be any ex
eeption to such conference. With the exception OF
France and England there is country in which there
Is not some disturbance in foreign affairs Prosperous
and successful as have been our foreign horizon
not entirely without clouds The gcutleman from Mary
land said that the meeting at 0stend was
Now although the gentleman was technically right IN
bis remark he yet not so, considering the spirit
which exists among abroad 1t In
not at all unusual for to confer with
another by written communicable fact 1t is
part OF their instructions to do II their duty
constantly TO keep another advised of the proceed
ngs at the courts to which they accrc-
ciec. If they required to resort to written
communications, what impropristy could there
be IN meeting at some convenient place to talk
over matters and exchange views with that FREQ
dom which more easily INDUCED in conversation than
ia formal written communications. He repeated, the
resolution was premature He not prepared to say
whether the House could safely pass IL not but he
aouii say, such the character of the Presidents
Message that II ought TO dsarm gentlemen of any dis
trust in the management OF our foreign affairs. He
thought the Message conservative and admired il be-
cause, being personally conservative in our foreign
views. He thought the Comnittee OF Foreign Affairs
Lad berctoors given evidence Of moderation any rate
and he hoped his friend would trust that comee with
the resolution. He moved IL be 50 referred.
Mr.. WENTWORTH, (dem.) Of ILL.,, said when the resolu-
ton introduced yesterday he voted against it, be-
having then heard the President's Message, which
they had = right to suppose would give a
alr exposition of our foreign affairs. with the gen
cman from Virginia. he endorsed the message SO far
the foreign policy OF the message concerned it
conservative and just such the wings ought
approve and which he glad to know the democrats
approved Of IL only remained for the House. with the
denocIatc party, 10 act to what the President ap
proves The President has made his proclamation to
all it is right ami the country win sustain him. Were
The Presidential election 10 OF tomorrow with all
tbe issues which prevail the adopting any other
foreign policy could not be sustained We hear rumors
=
appeals, counsellng what should and should not be
done. he did not know whether those documents
true or fal>e, but for the credit Of the country
he hoped they were f0rgeries. 1t is the duty OF
the President to inquire whether they are or not.
il presumabe those documents orgeres, and that
all We hear is false, the credit Of government re-
quires 1t should be. He hoped If the foreign ministers,
after seeing the Presidents message, differ from him.
they viii come home, and leave foreign affairs alone. IL
they believe with the President he hoped they would
try TO strengthen themselves with foreign governments
in order TO preserve with him, honorable and pacific
relations lie dehired the reference Of the resolution
proposed.
Mr. GRAY, (whig) Of KY, remarked that this was
President to communicate anything deu mental to the
pubic interest. There is great anxiety to
thing of the origin and results Of the conference at Os
iene. The House could pass the resolution
without rejecting the Committee of For
eign Affairs The couatry ought to have the facts.
The pltats dsapprove OF the libusterng cles which
hey say published in foreign countries by sent
thiher in diplomatic capacities by the administration.
Our Minister Madrid among others is accused Of M
clustering. He did not know whether not these
charges are true, whether all that is published is
true but he could objection to giving the infor
mation called for BY The resolution, which Is couched
such guarded terms leaves the President discretionary
and Illinois say the resolution is premature but n they
know the facts they ought to consent to the passage Of
the yesepiop, in ordey that other members Of the
House may be made acquainted with them.
Mr. BAlLy (nterru pling)1 pledge my word Of honor,
don know that such conference has taken place,
fso what they did or who nstrrcted asm what ~ DE-
Mr. rrIn Ey0 hat ne intr
ducton OF the resolutions before the Presidents Message
MAS read, was premature.
has been read and do not think II prema ature 10
lave the information soon as possible. opposed
20 the reference.
Mr.. wAsHpURs, (whig,) of Me-, thought the resolu-
iyn such as should be at adopted by the House
Notwithstanding what said by the gentleman from
Ngina :he meeting at Ostend unprecedented in fact
and in spirit When before in history has there been
. conference OF ministers with such parade and -four
ish OF gumpets and Of those ministers foreigners
by birth. The country truly anxious to know the
OBJECT OF he meeting, and the results OF it. They
have righ, to. know. If ministers have been doing
anything wrong, the representatives Of the people
should earnestly protest against their conduct
Mr. BuIylR (deml OF Ca, Of opinion that the
information sought by the resolution should be given to
the country. In tins republic there il necessity for
keeping secret transactions OF this character Public
attention has been directed to this conference and in
qury is made everywhere 10 ts objects and results
The house the proper tribunal TO call for the iuorma
tion in official shape that II may command respect
Mr. Phillips tdem) Of Ala, said they should only act
has said that the President any other officer Of the
government ever directed such meeting Of minis
ters at Ostendg 1t not consistent with the dignity
OF the House to offer such resolution. Is every idle
and piece Of newspaper gossip to excite most
attention. We ought not to file mere fishing bills
OF inaury to know whether such facts There is
evience that the meeting has resulted in nythng IL
anything at all has taken place.
Mr. GRAY (interruptngJ asked, il such meeting had
been held and ordered by the administration ought not
the louec to know It'll How can they know but by call
ing iol the information.
NJ
something than suspicion before they called
TO act in the premises they have nothing but outdoor
gossip. He willing tn refer the resolution to the
Committee on Foreign Affairs
Mr. BAyy remarked that II thus referred the commit
tee would report back the resolution.
Mr. LEvCHER (dem) Of Va, would vote for the
luton it stood, and should vote for IL IL something
added He satisfied, from the tone OF
public journals and the conversations amongst his con-
stituens, that there is disrust about Minister
10 Madrid. He desired the fact to go before
the country, in order that II Mr.. Soule h
innocent he may have the benefit Of the vindicaton.
If the suspicious well founded the fact should be
known and hence he wanted the resolutions passed in
order 40 decide a pnw ine case sana M ihe Eshtemsn
tion, but he (Letcher) never knew more important
call made on the President than this. He thought Mr..
soue should have been sent abroad and that the
interests of the country would be promoted by calling
him home.
Mr. BAyLy reminded Mr. Letcher that the resolution
had nothing 10 do with Mr.. Soule.
Mr.. Lr1CwH replied that he understood that Mr.
soulc in that conference. To be there
hut he took il for granted that his colleague
(Bayly) knew he there. II he was not
there, how all this fuss about his going back
through Franccf 0aughter) What difference does IL
make whether Mr.. Soules IL mentioned, when the
olution distinctly refers TO bimr
Mr.. CAMPBELL, (fTce soi Of Ohio, advocated the sdop
ton the resolution contestng that the people have
rqlt 70 the information Although official document
admitted the fact Of the meeting at Ostend there
universal publication OF IL.
Mr. soriyss replied to Mr. Phillips and said, among
things, tha. he would not trust diplomacy 20
" not natives and to the manor born" Several
cries of sGood.'') Mr.. Souh might live here until he
old Methusaleh, and never comprehend the
national representative government Of the United States
Haughter.) he never know foreigner who did. a
voc,-ss Sellers must he Know Nethng;' "Ha ha y
foreigner lands there IL whispered into his
ear Democracy which tn the Irish II stumbling
block, and to ths Dutch foolishness. 0Aughter.)
Mr. CJvGMAs, (dem) OF N G., said there was nothing
surprising in conference Of Minister'S In Europe
seemed him eminenty proper that there should he
during the progress Of interesting events was
important they should come to a common understand
ing in order TO subserye the Of their country.
Mr.. McMurIxs regarded the resolution ~ premature
In nlv IN Mr. Wash hburn be hat