New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1854-07-01
GREAT BRITAIN.
DEBATE N PARLIAMENT on CANADIAN IN
DEPENDENCE.


House Of Lords the second reading of the Canadian
legislative Council Bill The Duke Of Newcastle, in
moving the second reading stated that the object Of the
hill was TO repeal those clauses in the Union act which
probibt legislation by the Canadian Parliament the
subject of Legislative Council and to leave the Colonial
Legislature entirely free to il may link fit with
speo to the creation Of Second Chamber This he said,
was the sole aim of the measure which he asked the House
TO read second time believing that in accordance
with the soundest principles Of Colonial legislation.
The Earl Of Desar begged the Duke to postpone the bill
until the Earl Derby should be present For his own
part doubted the necessity of having elective Lgs-
lative Council at ALL
Lord Wbarnclife requested 10 be informed whether the
bill owed IFS parentage TO the Duke OF Newcastle or
whether il had been recommended by Lord Egin was
il the result of correspondence between the Home Colo
NAL Office and the local authorities
The Earl OF Peterborough did not rise to oppose the
second reading of this BILL but express his opinion on
subject OF greater importance. We made such progress
last year in the work ~ concession to Canada ha the
question now was not whether we should stop in our
career It'll lee. whether should attempt 90 back
but whether VIC should not the most friendly spirit to-
ward Canada and the other North American colonies
suit with their Legislatures the expodency of taking
measures for the complete release OF those colonies from
oil DEF incidence the Crown and Parliament OF Great
Britain lie recolectod having conversation with Mr.
Huskison in 1875 during the time that statesman held the
seals Of the Colonial Office in which he minated most dis
tnctly that The time had already arrived for the sepafa
ton of Canada from this country, and Mr. usksson had
even naturoy considered the matter that he mentioned
the form of government which Ia thou lat would be for
our interest to have established in Canada when
nection with the colony should Ii be borne
in mind that during the last few years complete ca nge
had taken place in relations with the North American
colonies. In 1876 repealed the corn laws without
ing the privileges which Canada enjoyed under them. AT
subsequent period repealed the navigation laws which
gave rs great advantages in matters Of trade and navga
ton In addition to those Measures We had altered to a
great exon-if had not entirely abolished-he dis
eliminating duties tie staple produce OF the North
American Colonies Thus we have deprived ourselves
AID the North American Colonies Of the advantages which
each formerly derived from the connection substng be-
tween them For several years, too in dealing with the
Legislative Assemblies Of the colonies, had acted
principle Numerically opposed TO that which formerly in
fuoneed us we had established in the colonies what
called responsible government To speak inteli
gbly he'd given them, practically independent govern
ments. And really, he could hardly imagine situation
more huma,ng than that of the Representative Of Her
Majesty in Canada. II almost wonderful British
gentleman would consent TO hold such situation Of null.
ty unless indeed from consciousness of his abilities
ind rosources he should think himself able to be- Lord
Metoae was the Minister of the Colony. What the
use what the practical advantage of continuing
necticn with the colonies The connection might be of
some small in time Of peace but the other hand.
consider the danger arising from in matters relating to
war. There could be doubt ila the chances of col
lision between this country and the United States
greatly increased by our connection with the North Ameri
can Colonies 1t equally certain that in the event of
occurring between this country and the United States
ounds totally unconnected with the colonies they must
from with be drawn inote aud their
whole frontier would be exposed to the greatest caames
Under these circumstances, II was a matter worthy oi
serious consideration whether VIC should not ondeavor IN
Tie friendly tO diyes ourselves of cpnnec
ton which must prove equally 10 both parties.
Now in of war could we hope defend the colonies
successfully lie would advise, not the noble Duke op-
Ioe, who TO his great satisfaction had been released
from the duties Of the Colonial Office but the Right Hon.
Barorct who had succeeded him, to read dispatch
received from Lord Metcalfe in lao. We then,
supposed, the of with the United States
war connected with matters in which Canada had no
conoerr-a for object the value of which not
TO either party equal TO the expense of weeks hos
tics Let the Colonial Secretary read Lord Metcalies dis
patch and see the Of military aid which would DC
requirtd to enable successfully to defend Canada. AT
the time he lord Eonborough thought Lord Metcalies
estimate eXravagent and le did not attach any grea,
having consulted persons who from their position
competent to decide uponiLe que sio he found they
confirmed Lord Meicaltes estimate 10 the amount of
force necessary TO defend Canada successfully and it
utterly beyond the means Of this county TO provide it,
II might he said hot did successfully defend Canada
in lsi4 and that had made great progress in wealth
since. That lie admitted and lie wished he could
add that had made equal progress in military strength
IT. however we had advanced III the of prosperity,
consider the progress which the United States
had made in their railroads their appointed
and we-discplined army-an advantage which they did
not formerly possess for they conducted the war in s4
with mere r6bbe. Considering the increased strength
and appliances the command Of the United States
would hardly be possible defend Canada with any hope
of success The very idea Of with the United States
was horrible. The would be of the greatest
evils of the dres of human Affections Connected
in all the details OF commerce. il would be
like tearing asunder the limbo of one human body than
the collision Of two separate bodies WHY, needlessy,
increase the chances of Our brethren the other
side Of the Atlantic very ambitious and extremely
sensitive the point OF honor we and were
also extremely sensitive the point of justice Not only
would endure in Justice 10 ourselves, but could
not tolerate the pepetracn of injustice another These
considerations should lead TO regard rupture with the
United States a. event which might happen at some
period Under tics circumstances, he hoped that at
early period the Government would communicate with
the leading persons in the Legislative Assemblies Of me
North American Colonies with the view of a. r,anine
their opinion the sute Of separa.icn We should
consult with them in the most fgiely spirit as if they
were memters OF one and me family in which we
felt deep concern.
IT. Duke of Newcastle retored that lie astonished
that the Earl Of Peterborough should PROFOUND opinions
which would be unpaa,eable to the people OF the col
onies ss they were their lodshps Of that House He
tie Duke of Newcastle would inform the noble Earl
tina; he did not belong TO Government which would
conse to making such proposals to the people of Can
ada For his part he looked upon such proposal as an
off nse agans. the dignity and the sovereignty OF Britain
and hostile TO the best interests Of the colonists
Lord Brougham asked why the Duke OF Newcastle
should so yeheln,nty denounce the proposal of the sep
ara,ion of these colonies from the parent State The
proposal was not novel, 1t had been entertained and
messed by many eminent men. For himself be would
respectfully recommend TO the people OF Canada so to Sc