The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-08-04

Hive. Or an afir native, or an evssive answer. BE
need mot say TO honorable gentemen that there was
Geai probability that the eyas.vs form was the one
Dat u was the opinion Of his noble friend, Lord
Clarendon, that If the answer from Russia was not
satactory, the re could be no doubt whatever that
The noble lord then said that the events Of war we're
uncertain. This being great struggle With one Of
ths rse military Powers Of Europe It would neces-
sariy involve this country in very great and very
h give notice tonight, on the part Of the gov
espnept that in the course Of next week he should
apply 70 the House Of Commons for very consider.
abb sum. The government, Of course must trust 70
Ne house placing confidence in them With respect
- this necessity. He did not for o moment mean
70 deny that M other government was possible but
TIE present. He did not know what combinations
night be fnmed. He did net know whether Lord
Deuey ana his friends, or any other persons, might
b able 70 form government. But 9, long as him
seh and his colleagues constituted the government,
and had upon them the responsibility Of the war, Of
. must 70 the sa o.
government which had not the support aud oonf-
dencs Of the House Of Commons could hope to carry
% great contest like the present to that success
a1xioasjy desired TO $50. The noble lord was
loudly cheered at the close of these observations.
Mr.. VERNON Smith, after few Introductory OBJ
servatiops, said that those persons who wished for
NE establishment Of . war ministry were quite as
anxious TO have particular man {, be ct the head
Of n They were just a. anxious TO have the de-
partnent created Is TO appoint particular indiyi
dual e 4. That individual was his noble friend
M. Sidney Herbert said he had given great dea,
OF hbor to the duties Of the Office of Secretary ct
Wss; but be assured honorable gentlemen that no
personal object NO personal ambition should ever
Tor enc moment stand In the way Of any re.arrange
pens Of these Offices that could be made for the
ceSent q the service and the advantage Of the coun
NJ. norman said that without expressing his
Svn opinion on the subject, he must say that .
hfge number Of Lord John Russell's usual friends
were Of opinion that, under the circumstances Of
VA, Il was unfortunate that Lord Aberdeen should
- N the situation OF Prime Minister They could
net, from Lord Aberdeen's well known views, an
ipats that the war would be carried on IN Q man.
nr consistent with the power and dignity Of this
country, 90 long AZ the noble earl held the chief
Mr.. Hume approved Of the position Of Lord Aber.
deem "a tbe goye!ment, and said he was very glad
70 see the u In which the Peelite party had
joined the old liberal party. It said great deal
ior their Istrictia~ while i gave them great deal
Russell however, in plain terms, that when he went
against threefoulths more Of his own party as he
lad On some occasions, and found himself In the
h night be quite certain he was wrong, and that
he was taking the most ehectual conrse possible to
break up ~ destroy tho liberal party.
M: BRI6Hr hoped Lord John would be able to
terms peace would be accepted. If Turkey was
cleared Of the Russians, and certain treaty guaran
tea agreed 70, would the be brought to an end2
Il n we're to BE- carried on with view TO the dis
end 81 il, or the calamity In which Il would involve
both this country and al Europe. As TO Lord Aber-
dean. he had, for his part great confidence In the
noble earl; and was extremely sorry to see the bitter
and malignant sAtacks which were made upon him
without Justification. he could only express his
georn for the violent and improper manner In which
The noble earl had been assailed.
Lord ?: sEuARr strongly ealogized the merits Of
10 lave been the new War Minister.
NJ LAYARD expressed some apprehensions with
regard to the conduct Of Austria.
N.Y. sCuLLY introduced the question Of tenant
night m Ireland; but by this time the attendance
nae become very thin, and, after Lord John had
thanked members for their presence, the meeting,
which lasted more than an hour and half, broke
mp.
The Austrian and Prussian Notes.
Tho Dusseldorf Gazette publishes the following
g tne eext the notes addressed BY the cabinets
Of Vienna and Berlin to that Of St. Petersburg, rela
tive to the evacuation OF the Danubian Priacipall
ties -
TO COUNT EsrERHAzY AT ST. PETERSBURG.
Wilma, July 3, 1854.
In presence Of the great crisis which keeps Ed
rope in state of anxious expectation, the Empe-
Ter, eur august master, has resolved to address
6meeH once more to tho ma gnanim0us sentiments
q the Emperor Nicholas, BY inviting him to weigh
iiog On END to state Of things 80 threatening for
al positions and all interests.
Il n Impossible 20 conceal that the occupation of
lbe two Principaties Of the Danube by the Russian
troops has been Of the principal causes of the
has taken and that at this very time 1t is that inca
sure which has caused the failure Of ell attempts tJ
arrive 1t paci ic solution. BY the silence which
she has observed to the summons Of Franse and
nd tori Ing a
pat1es, Rnssia has placed herself in state of war
Nth the two Western Powers and by that has given
% the struggle fresh and SO great an extension
that Is ID impossible 10 foresee the disastrous conse
quenees thai may result from 1t.
The Emperor Nicholas cannot be iynorant to
what point the interests of the Austrian empire,
which are sonfonnded in many respects with those
ef Germany, have already suffered in q political,
commercial, and manufacturing point Of view from
this roloDgod occupation. II is also evident that
these evils must increase in proportion to the ex-
Tension given TO the theatre Of war.
ansust master, penetrated with the duties imposed
uron him by the care Of the interests Of his people,
sees himself compelled to accept, BY the protocol Of
vfich . copy Is annexed, engagements for the ac-
HE Emperor OF Russia, in weighing all these con-
alterations, will appreciate the Importance which
the Emperor, our august master, must attach to
shs Russian armies not extending their operations
thai he should on his side furnish positive iadica-
lions as to the precise period, and we hope not
distant one, when an end win be put TO the 0ccu-
pationoof the Principalities.
The Emperor Nicholas, we doubt net, Wishes for
peace. He win consequently consider on the means
Of putting IN end to state of things which tends
every day more and more to become for Austria and
&c, many q fruitful source Of cAlamities. He will
not wish by An ndeterminate duration Of that occu
PISTON, or by attaching TO the evacuation CO dtons
he accomplishment Of wai N will be Independent Of
ear win, to impose on the Emperor Francis Joseph
TIE imperious duty Of himself d. visiug the means
Tor protecting the interests which 30 seriously
Have the goodness N. 10 Comte, in reading the
psefent despatch 70 Count de Nesselrode, and in
handing him copy Of It, TO point out the particu
precise declarations, which may serve 10 tranquize
cur own interests and, ct the same time, serve to
PSF an end 70 the horrors Of war. Accept, &C.,
eBisned) Da BueL.
TO BARON DE NORTHERN.