The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-04-07

sions inyads, under the Congress grant
pay sieans whose credioty such shall be certified by
the magistrate before whom the affidavit Is cerded. sta
originally gianted tdescs bng 10 and the ras Of such
disability the time Of making the affidavit shall
pany ts application OF The first payment which shalt ial
due the ioath day Of March next aud at the end Of
every years thereafler and H. IN case OF coatinoed
disability 1t shall be stated al rate below that lor which
me penson a. orignaiy ahleds e shAn ohy
Now. sir, am wiling to agree TO amendments which
will authorize bul one re.examnaon. leaving II 10 Con-
gess TO determine hereafter The results OF The exa'
nation. whether or not they will continue IT. As io me
resi- OF the amendment think II bad better be lett as lhe
Secretary proposes. @sEN
In regard to the addition OF the last clause. thought
that according 10 the principles which prevail IN eier-
TO military offices, there ought 10 he some such pro-
vso IN relation 10 civil Offices II seems TO me there ~
no just rule, good reason for discriminating between
the two cases, said yesterday that ! was wlhg %
agree 10 the limitation proposed BY the senslor from
Maine, Mr. HAMLE.l Or, II the Senate should oolect
to that addtion any form, hope they will al least
adopt much ot this section, with the amendment OF
which have spoken. proposed by the department
itself II il be the general sense OF the Senate That we
should strike out the provision requiring the
lion TO be every two years, think unite on the
amendment and hope the question will be taken on 1t
without further debate
r.bADGER Mr. President. as an obliged on this
OCCASION with great reluctance, TO separate from my hon
orable and honored chairman, Mr. HUNTER, wish 10
say. few words, why feel compelled to do il, am
opposed 10 bon pals q ms amendment Inc hfsl par
ure and unsatisfactory attempt 10 make an Improvement
Ia the system Of pensions, with view TO prevent trauds
Maryland, and my friend from Virginia. and any other
gentleman, for the adoption Of wise and practicable
system to prevent real irands and to make JUS. and
proper discrimination between fair claimants and raudu-
lent preenders But think il is evident upon this dis
cussion that the amendment sent here and proposed by
the head of the department. has not been maurey con-
sdeTed So far that is concerned, see no reason why
it should be absolutely necessary TO pass this provision
upon the deficiency bill Let The communication OF the
Secretary of the Intenor be referred the Committee
Pan a he nf WI ia IN
fore me, Mr.. JONES, of Iowa Let that committee
sde with such aid as they can get from the department
them report il in separate bill am prepared to adept
whatever wse and just and reasonable; but am sat
shed that the multiplication OF certificates will not answer
With regard 10 the mode in which these laws ad-
minisered in the departments have not the same con-
dence which the honorable senator from Virginia says
he has. mpute i'll purposes but think bad prac
ce, originating in the subodinates OF these departments
idea that security gained to the country in proper
on as yoa multiply s and II
and ceremonals is exactly the contrary How do
you defeat attempt at fraudulent claim by requiring
ceremonial Ii sits down 10 fabricate claim,
be will get the law, and he will have all his memorable
papers the precise and accurate order for pre-
senation do not believe therefore, that that system
will do anything good. But, al all events think this
had better be carefully looked no instead OF being now
hurriedly passed.
Mr. President, it was long since said, as have once
before mentioned in the Senate, and as believe, truly
said by Lord Mansfield that the attempt made by the
Parliament of England by the statute OF frauds 10 guard
against the proof OF improper OF iraudulen, wills. oy
minute and particular ceremonial had SO i4r as that was
concerned proved aborve; for, as Lord Mansfield re-
MARKED there had been instance oil forged or
fraudulen. will presented az Doctors Commons .nat was
expected would be and the only effect OF the opera.
ton Of the bill bad been FACT TO dsappoint the real in
enons OF tesator because the formal requisites mad
not been compiled with.
With regard to the second provision OF this amend
ment, cannot see any justice or propney IN i IN any
II l.. 49, hat, lie in tha dOaa
and il is most unjust and wrong that it should prevail
there. am willing to repeal il, but am not willing to
add another OF injustice.
moment Here two officers in the army employed IN
the grade, rendering the services, competent
to render The same services, 70 which Inc sw a.aensaa %
You stop his pension while be is in that service ask
you il he is compensated upon footing OF equality with
the officer who has not lost mbS Why, certainly be Is
not Does not every know that his expenditures are
necessarily increased account of the heplessness su
pernduced by The loss lis 81 900 the same to the man
who possessed of all hs limbs, and the man who has to
hire an extra put him to bed at night and TO
take him up the morning. and separate into mouthfus
the food which be easi Why il is evident that its not
II 81 900 ia sufficient compensation for the duties OF the
Office why do you take away, in the supposed case the
$500 which The party received because ne was dis
abled III in edec, making difference OF s2oo 70 ,he
compensation Of two dischargng the same duties in
the same grade II the is disabled that he cannot
discharge the duties o the office, he ought no longer TO
hold it bat while he holds the office we presume that the
ders think this provision with regard to the army, and
10 regard to the navy, blcmish upon The LEGISLATION OF
Congress The question for the repeal OF that is not
before us. ready 10 go for its repeal; but am not
willing to extend the provision further because cannot
see that il is otherwise than wrong and an injustice
Mr. ADAMS. Mr.. President, know that It s desir-
able TO take the vote on the amendment and am not
disposed detan the Senate by any observauons upon
IT, merely wish TO give notice. that when the vote ~
taken on the amendment OF the senator from Delaware
shall move strike out OF The amendment of the com.
mitee the words and every two years alter the date oil
such affidavit be shall before receiving any further pay
ment, produce to said agent similar afhdavr' The
effect OF this will be TO obviae the difficulty OF requiring
The pensoner make new roof every two years, but
will still leave the Pension 06ce at liberty to apply the
test which is recommended shall then move TO strike
tonable TO my mind than ], siands though shall
no, vote for it as tlGa amended
Among other reasons why cannot vote LOT ~ ~ lbe
fact, ba, the surgeons are 10 be approved oy 'ne
Sccfe,aIy of the Interior" How il il possible that the
of the Interior know what two surgeons
in each nerhborhood throughout the whole United
States are competent investigate this matter How
can he know anything about them
SIR only wish to add, that whenever proposition
shall be brought forward here TO authorize the Secretary
Of the Interior he has well founded belief that any
frauds being committed to institute an inquiry and
suspend fraudulent PENSIONS willing TO 90 for IT. let
il be introduced whenever II may Bat, with AL due re-
specl the Secretary OF the INTERIOR DO believe that
the amendment which has been submitted BY the COM
miliee not calculated s nature, TO effect the object
desired hy him, Of erreng out frauds; but believe At
trammeIs and rammes unnecessarily, the poor pension
ers II is said by the senator from Vrg MIA that viii
be matter of convenience or at least very little incon
yenence for pensioner 10 secure the cerhCatee OF
two surgeons approved by the Secretary OF the Interior