The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-03-23

and ha that has moi the right 10 reply Does the
Shsu decide mat IN personal maer-a matter which is
aae personal by the senator from lnosherc is rule
o. parliamentary order which prevents from asking this
Yu.sruo ana having responsae shall be very glad #
lhe ohar thinks SOL say il with all rsspeetif he will
consult The President of this body.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair entertans
thus opinion II evident from the course now adopted by
me senator from Michigan that he proposes ntenogate
mere upon the question whether they understood
M as lecuring the Senate. If II simply question
OF ae II the senator desired to ascertain what had been
dohe u would IN the judgment Of the Chair be proper
PROFOUND TINS nterogatory bot the senator now ev
uoh 'hefrogatng for the purpose of ascertain
ing me construction which they give to speech made by
himself, mus converting the Senate Of of
appeals IL is question between the from illinois
ana the senator from Michigan whether the speech of
me aer was lecture In that vew the Chair decides that
Mr. STUART. Well sir | appeal from tbs decision
Of me Chair and ask the sense of the Senate whether
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is, Shall
Senate ~
Mr.. SHIELDS 1 hope my friend from Michigan will
The PRESIDING OFFICER proceeded to take the vote
but before the had been counted
Mr. STUART said withdraw the appeal; and say
again, SIR, that If there here who thinks that
undertook to lecture the Senate in the few remarks which
had The honor to submit, viii be obliged TO him if he will
say So
Mr.. GWlN. VIII the senator permit me to ask him
question: Did he not say that in vote which gave
here we gave vote which historically ase Was not
that offensive to the Senate? s Hs.
MIR. SEWARD call the honorable senator from Cali
fornia to order. celt a GtNa4 r Ft# #tsH
Mr. GWiN. Why so' What right has the senator
to call orer The from Michigan gave way
for me to ask the question.
MIR. SEWARD. the decision of the Chair, moment
ago, be correct the honorable senator from California
Mr., GWlN. The ex-senator from Michigan give the
hoorIf he chooses.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the senator from
Michigan yield the foor'
Mr. STUART. certainly did yield the floor to the
senator from California to ask question.
Mr. GWlN. ask, them If the honorable senator did
not make that assertion that the which majority
of the Senate gave they asserted principle which his
torcay false and having made that statement not
personally offensive the Senator That my question
so understood the gentleman.
Mr. STUART | will tell the senator what said ; but
must be permitted 10 remark, that what did say said
with feeling of dsrespect 10 the Senate or any single
senator discussing what the honorable from
North Carolina Mr. BADGER had said--tha he deemed
the duty every friend Of this bill against every
amendment which from the senator from Ohio
said that did not agree all with the principles of the
ator from Ohio; that did agree with his action and
added that thought his action and that of those assoc
ated with him this body had preudced the opposition
to this bill Then sir, said, illustrative of the mpro
riety of that doctrine that the Senate the other day
motion of the from Ohio strike the words
declaring that the principles of the legislation of 1850 super
seeded the legislation of 1920, voted against almost
body my honorable colleague and myself being the only
gentlemen who In favor of the bill who voted for that
amendment; and that within the eight minutes the
Senate voted for substantially the amendment offered
by the senator from Illinois said that it true,
either historically legally eonstitutonally that the e
gslntion of 1885, principle superseded the leg saon of
1920. The word superseden has known meaning. To
supersede is to repeal do away with, substitute
thing else for to make the previous act of force Now
ask the from California il he thinks this going
without the legitimate line of argument and should be con-
sdered offensive TO the Senatei
Mr. GWIN. Mr.. President, was paying great aten-
ton to the senator when he made his remarks because
had not attended to the previous discussion the subject
and it struck the time that his remarks the
effect that that Historically false.
Mr.. STUART Oh, no!
Mr.. GWIN. That my understanding the
vote which was given was historically untrue and un
Outstanding those remarks at the time, thought them Of
fensive.
Mr. SHIELDS | can state to the senator from Cali
fonia that as understood the from Michigan, he
said nothing about the vote being
MIR. CASS. Not word.
Mr. DOUGLAS, should like TO have the reporter
read the which taken of the remarks of the
's The '' PRESIDING OFFICER. The senator from
Michigan is enIed 10 The floor.
MIR. DOUGLAS. know ii ; but if he is MOTTO be con-
fined to IT, should Ike to take IT myself and cross-exam
inc his witnesses.
Mr.. STUART. | going on and, before get
through shall redeem myself from thus charge. will al
low any senator, have my honorable friend from Cali
rorniaor have great personal respect for every
tor this noorto admonlsh But sir, the honorable
senator from North Carolina, Mr.. BApsERl for whom
the highest regard his closing remarks the
day which referred when discussed the question Of
the difference between declaring that the Compromise of
1850 superseded that of 1920, and that they
with each other stated that there could be such
thing the principle Of act Of legislation supersedng
another unless they both reference the very same
subject The point which made theo, and which make
now is this: If you pass law to-day to be applied TO
the State Of Ohio and pass law be applied
in North Caroline of another character esrey different
in its principle, gentleman here will undertake say
that the law applied North Carolina superseded the law
passed for oho and the senator from North Carolina
stated the same thing
| viii not however, dwell that. Mr.. President,
would rather anything in life should happen that
should be regarded by my feowscnators having insult
ed this body, either collectively individually and say
npnin shall be obliged If they will where
in they deem have done so, and lei whether
we 10 understanding not. will yield the
floor to any gentleman who desires IL for this purpose
But now, that this the first time that the
ator from Illinois has sought personal difficulty this
floor with SIR although treat him with all the respect
which is due to him SENATOR although have
failed TO treat him with all the respect which due
him as q friend, | tell hun that will do
for him undertake to put down, here elsewhere.
Sir am the sort Of stuff for that If he thinks that,
plying the position which he docs the Senate be-
fore country he is 10 teach how am TO act upon
bill how am to vote, and whether to offer amend
ments or not, and that am 10 be subjected by doing
his denuncatons, he mistaken in his life
never, SIR.
Mr. President " there s any thing hun,ilating
than another il is TO compel talk about himself
regret deeply regret, the necessity for IL have
been wont to trumpet my fame. like to hear the
opinion Of other IN regard mysefeither in appro
val condemnation But, SIR IL any supposcs that
he holds here, either by the grace Of God from any
other authority, the power TO drsgoon me- he
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