The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-06-28
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expected to make them out Of the national
treasury The Mexicans had already presented claims 10
the extent Of sixteen millions Of dollars lie he spoke
from rnmor when he said that President Fillmore had
made up his mind 70 pay the OF sx million dollars 10
settle this question II he misinformed he boped
gentlemen would correct his
Mr. HAVEN argued the necessity OF having the cores
pondenoe By which the treaty negotiated ana com
planned tiiat this had not been granted
MI. HOUSTON said the gentlemen the other side of
the House had been for DAYS thai mi, hin
would be brought for consideration why had they not
asked for that correspondence before n the
that correspondence TO their making up
their Judgments on this subject2
Mr. HAVEN was glad the gentleman from Alabama Mr.
transaction in this affair.
Mr.. BAYLY, of Virginia asked the gentleman whether
he could mention single case in which the correspond
ence on treaty had been made public
Mr. HAVEN said the gentleman had more experience in
the matter than himself He dr H. did not know any
thing about it,
Mr.. BAYLY said the he did not think the cor
rspondence necessary because he considered that
the treaty spoke for itself
Mr. HAVEN would put il to the gentleman whether If
he believed treaty to be false one but did possess
information which would prove il to be such he would
vote for an appropriation for il Notwithstanding the treaty
spoke for itself?
Mr. BAYLY said that in the construction of legal instru
ments his opinion had always been that they upon
themselves He did not believe much in negotiations of
treaties or OF explanations which given them
by correspondence They rather the arguments of
counsel not to affect the Judgment of the court.
Mr.. TAYLOR of Ohio, inquired of the gentleman from
New York whether he knew anything of what President
Fillmore intended to do in relation Mexico or whether
any offer six million dollars had been made to Mexico
Mr. HAVEN said he did possess any peculiar
of the last administration He had heard of such
offer, and he never thought believed that such offer
had ever been made In this he might be mistaken.
Mr. PHILLIPS rose to reply to the remarks made yeser
day by the gentleman from Missouri, Mr. BEsros1 lie
understood the position of that gentleman be that the
Of the House should be asked before any treaty
could be entered into and that consequently the negota-
ton of treaty without such breach of
the privileges of the House. Such mode Of making
treaty would be impractcable No head of foreign gov
would enter into stipulation upon questions
which designed to be kept under such crcn-
stances if they be told that there 234 gentle
men, members of the House OF Representatives who would
have TO pass Judgment upon any treaty which required
that money should be drawn from the treasury for the pur
pose Of fulfilling it. Such system OF negotiating treaties
would PROSTATE this country in the estimation of other
nations of the earth.
Mr. r proceeded to show that the President and the Sem
much representatives of the people the House
ITSELF and that the latter had right arogate itself
the exclusive title representatives Of the people.
PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
Mr. RICHARDSON rose to make personal explanation
in relation to what appeared in the papers in reference to
In the New York Weekly Times Of the 4th instant the
following Geographic DESPATCH purporting to be from
Washington, was printed
astounding fraud has just discovered by Messrs
Campbell of Ohio, Benton Mace and others. 1t
for the Nebraska bill the Senate bill simply without the
Clayton provso when in fact he had inserted clause prov
ding that other than citizens should hold office
bill'
Mr. CAMPBELL explained that he had said he regarded
the passage of the bill fraud, and in violation of the
rules of the House. and time did he charge the gem
eman from Illinois mr. RcHARpsos] with perpetrang
wilfully fraud
Mr. c. then proceeded to explain that he had, throughout
the whole contest the Nebraska BILL been intimate with
the gentleman from Illinois and he thought that gen.
teman's open, frank and manly and at
time could he discover the part of the chairman Of
the Committee Territories any attempt to take any inn
Mr. RICHARDSON was perfectly satisfied with the
statement of the gentleman from Ohio, Mr. CAMPBELL
and he satisfied that the who sent that despatch
had authority from that gentleman make that charge
upon him, (Mr RI He would brand the author Of that
message and those who endorse IL whoever they might
infamous liars, and he would proceed TO prove it.
Mr. then proceeded to read the passages of the bill and
10 explain his whole course Of action thereon
Mr. KElTT spoke in defence of Mr. Gadsden, defending
him from certain charges which had been made during the
debate.
Nj. SMITH, of New York, stated his views upon the bill
explaining that he not opposed the annexation OF
any portion the whole of Mexico If It were the
wish Of that people into the Union not because
il would benefit this country but because would benefit
Mexico lie believed he would for the appropriation
if il than five millions although be regard
cd that much but in his opinion
for the benefits to be secured he could not vote for it.
lie conended that for the President apd the Senate
make and confirm treaties and when they had done so
competent for the House to alter W had by their
action become law.
lie also in favor Of annexng Cuba Il it was desired
by the Cuban people and what Ne did think
II necessary wait for the Of Spin for that pur-
It. Laughter He for every people doing as they
thought best in relation TO their own government
He not of those who woad oppose the bill be-
the President did arze tho House such an
appropriation be called lie had constitution
al right withhold that information If he thought proper
lie yielded 10
Mr.. GIDDINGS who said he could not vote for this ap-
propriaon unless he informed for what purpose IL
required He did not agree with his friend from New
York Mr.. SNfTH TO the ncompetcncy Of the House in
the matter of treaties He here do the bid
ding Of either the President the Senate but conende
that when they asked for appropriation they had
right to have every information the subject first
On motion Of Mr. PECKHAM, the committee rose aud
that gentleman asked 10 offer his resolutions ask
ing for the correspondence the subject
Mr. PHELPS objected the ground that the President
not being in the city the effect would be delay the pas
cage Of the bill
The House again went into committee TO allow Mr.
GIDDINGS to conclude his remarks He continued to
argue INF opposition TO the BILL
Mr.. WASHBURN, Of Maine said the APPROXIMATION
might be right but he could unless he had
sufficient Information TO justify such vote lie main
tanned the right Of the House to investigate treaties before
they appropriation for them and expressed his sur
prise at the views expressed by his friend from New York
Mr. SmrrH
Mr. BOYCE also contended that the House had author
y 10 reject vote appropriation whether for treaties
or any other purpose This he believed the proper
construction Of the constitution
Mr. PECkliAM proceeded 10 defend his the
Nebraska BILL and 20 reply TO certain remarks which had
appeared in what he of The organs of the adj
mintraon in this city (beeved be the Evening Star
referring 10 the sending Of territorial officers from Wash
ington 10 Kansas and Nebraska.
Mr. then spoke in reply to the gentleman from viz
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