The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-04-17

The Earl Of AnrRDES-y Ords-I may take this OPP
pcrtuuiy Of observing that in entering upon this war;
H !. gratifying 10 know that will have tie support
which the noble earl has occasionally thought fit to offer
to her Majesty's government. ] presume must be
grateful for what we have received daughter But,
j confess, | trust that from this House and from the
country we shall receive different support. (Hear
hear The noble earl first stated, think, that he
persuaded this war would never have taken place had
not had the misfortune to be AT the head OF the
ment Of this country (iear) Ny lords, he referred
tvs minister at St Petersburg, in which his MAJ sty
pleased to express opinion favorable to myself
personally and alluded to long acquaintance which he
was pleased 10 recognise he had had with Now
that win say that OF course cannot but be battered
by the good opinion Of any sovereign in alliance
with our Queen. Clear hear That the po
son in which the Emperor Of Russia stood at the time
and, Of course see nothing to be ashamed OF in the
good opinion expressed Of humble individual like
myself by monarch in alliance with (Hear, hear)
But the noble earl is not without his compliments also
aughter The instant be arrived at the head Of affairs
in this country, what happenedY Clear, hear) Why
the Austrian government wrote to congratulate him. and
the noble earl then Secretary Of State, returned des
patch full Of gratitude (aughter) to the Emperor on that
occasion And this congratulaton by the only Min
lister who recollect in Austria as the bitter enc
my of the English nation. Hear, hear) That was the
of any other minister. (iear, hear Now, my
lords, received congratulation from Austria and
yet have been long in communications with that gov
and indeed have been branded in this House and
in the country pupil of the detested Metternich
Qaughter.) But no congratulations reached me ! re-
eived indeed the congratulations of his Imperial Majesty
through Sir H. Seymour, but they received without
that'possessed my noble friend Qaughter) The noble
earl again has come to the memorandum prepared in
1914 in which he has dabbled great deal and in which
lie fancies he has made great discovery to turn to
great account. He thinks there is a correspon
dence connected with it. and that there must be some
thing more to te produced. How he has formed that
opinion am unable to say but can only state that
thing that exists that subject is your lord
ships table now WITH respect to nat N.
Russia in this country he, in conversation with
me, with the Duke of Wellington, and with the
Ia4a D,knr Danl afnl f1naa
sions which he entertained OF the probable dis.
solution of the Turkish empire, and expressed
ensue from such European calamity The whole drift
of this memorandumthe only practical effect of this
nothing-a all events to do nothing without under
standing previous concert with Russia but not at all
to the exclusion OF other Powers (hear hear in
the least 1t is quite true that the Emperor, as your
lordships well know, treated the former dynasty of
France in the as he has done the present.
but he nsnuatei in the slightest degree that
precuded from CORES pondence with the French
government; and the fact is that myself personally
communicated to the French ambassador the substance
of the communications that had taken place Hear,
hear There not the slightest uneasness on the part
of France on the subject; for as said, it had no
other practical effect in the world than that there
should be separate action in the event OF the Gala
nifty taking place which he anticipated (Hear) Now,
see again look at, on the whole with great satisfac
ton. l see nothing to find fault with in it. (Hear,
bear) 1t seems to me- always supposng that the Empe
well founded in his apprehensons IS to the dis
solution OF the Turkish empre-for of his sincerity
cannot doubt, however well or ill founded his apprehen
sions may have been-but acting that belief, see
nothing but that which is wise, and moderate, and
judicious in the memorandum, and there some
things it TO be admired and particularly such your
ordship and would well consider and act upon in
Of necessity For example, say, all that relating
and in fact see nothing whatever which am ready
to subscribe to in the contents of that paper Now is
very common notion, and the noble earl has given
currency also to it, that this Is mere pretext OF the
Emperor Of Russia, this apprehension of the disco
luton of the Turkish empire and merely framed the
brought about on the preext that dissolution Now
my noble friend behind me has sready said he had
not recent thing, not of the date Of 1874 for
these apprehensons he entertained in 1922 and enter
tanned them also, of which win give your lordshps q
proof Your lordships that by the treaty of
London it the intention Of Mr. Canning to erect
Greece into State under the suzeranty of the Porte
After the peace of Adranople, proposed to my noble
friend at the head of the government to constitute
Greece, il possible into an Independent State, as
affording a better chance of being independent of
Russia than by being connected with the Porte i'll
suzeIainty This was agreed to in consequence
Turkish empire after the of Adrianope and thence
came it that the Independence Of Greece established
preext by the noble earl My lords many of the
observations made by the noble earl this memoran
dunn and upon the understanding which he seems to
think had been entered into with Russia, have had the
benefit Of reading before. CIAughter) Nay, should
not be very much surprised il they being read at
seen them in publication which is supposed to enjoy
authority; and at all events judging from its magnity
and Misrepresentation the origin of it. perhaps, is not
very difficult to discover Qaughter) / will venture
to make few observations the last number of this
this memorandum, which the noble earl to regard
his grand checal batae but which appears to me
be what is v,Igary called 10 mares nest" Qaughter)
this article, which commences with falsehood-bu that
was to be expected Qaughter)-says:-
In the ls4 the EppO, Of Rus:, visited our eoun
England and his Majesty deemed the season sppro
he seized the opportunity OF personally accomplishing it,
sn the IF So hast for
relations Of extreme confidence That minister
afs sr Of State in the
The fasehood TO which alluded is, that there the
slightest Misunderstanding between this country and
France know this enlargement is intended 10 refer
to the Tahiti affair, which did in 1874 Unfortu-
nae However the Emperor OF Russia visited this coun
first intelligence Of the Tahiti affair received
until early in the following August 'hear hear and
laughter3 therefore that misunderstanding could not
have invited the Emperor advance his oug cherished
project. The article goes on to state =
On his return TO St. Petersburg the Emperor Instructed
understanding arrived at during his visit and for
he Il o SSpasn m
thet found in the document might
Now, my lords can only say that know of no such
letter and think that my Imperial and Royal cores
pondence Is not extensive but that must have reco
eced such letter had il been received and can only
say have not the slightest recollection of having
ceived such letter from the Emperor OF Russia This
his first object BY the advice Of Lord Aberdeen he adj
dressed himself to Sir Robert Peel and the Duke
of wellington His Grace always favorable
to the Russian alliance" Yes his Grace always
favorable to the Russian alliance and whyS His Grace
favorable to it for the that he taught
to be favorable to IL; and that was because he
thought II favorable TO the interests Of England and
regrct-though forced into which believe to be
just and indispensable (hear hearI deeply regret this
rupture of friendship and therefore not only his
Grace favorable TO the Russian alliance, but should
hore that every man who valued the interests Of
would not do 10 critice his Grace No. that
ed for me. "a augh.) The article continues
Sir Robert Peel full Of tariffs wns entirely governed
with respect TO external politics by Lord Aberdeen 1t
dehnitvely settled in I4 between the Emperor
Russia snd the English government that the partition OF
Turkey whom became necessary should he transacted by
Great Britain and the two imperial courts without France
Yes my lords the writer OF this well knew Sir Robert
Peel VIXEN he talks OF his thinking OF nothing tariffs
and Of his being with respect TO external politics,
tirely governed by Lord Aberdeen Ny lords have
already said that the Duke Of Wellingtons opinion was
sLarcd hY Sir knhert Peel ard humhY endaaxnrei