The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-12-17

legslaton hat district in all whatever and
they might 90 It, any other thing that was within the
power OF the Legislative Assembly
Mr.. CAIRNS replied-Reference made by General
Thomas to letter which written u him BY OF
the bondholders, In which he expressed his dsatssc
ton at y statement that had been made BY General
was case which had never been contemplated by the
treaty under which the convention sitting. aud that
1t MAS manifest from the taken by the British go
to the government Of the United States but, the
contrary, had refused to do so. The object Ge-
to imply that the British government II they
believed this to b. just claim, would have taken
to urge 1t upon the attention Of the United
States government. General Thomass attention va
called 10 the fact that the claim had bet brought unier
the attention OF the American government by Lord
rsmerson and then he urged that II was not brought
but that Lord Palmeron had merely solicited the good
Offices Of the American government respecting It, That
however, was the diplomatic way In which all govern
urged claims upon the part of their and
the language held BY Lord PalmerstOn the language
held in every case Of the kind by the minister Of
country to the minister Of another He (Sfr Csirns)
not asking the umpire TO decide the by what
either government tn ought about it, but II having
insnuated that the government Of this country did not
believe this TO be just claim he was entitled say
reply and upon the authority of tier the Foreign
Office received that day. that far from that being the
Mr. Hannah, who represented the British govern
ment there, could state that the opinion OF the
law officers Of this country was taken on the case
Of the bondholders, and so FAR from the opinion
favorable 10 the of the bondholiers He
conended notwithstanding what had heen said by Gen.
Thomas, that the term moral Obligation pro-
per TO in this 1t was asked, did not the
British government consider loans necessary expenses
case and the present. because the British COVE lament
never contracted loan except upon the authority Of
Parliament, and Parliament also authorized the sepay
ment Oft. He did not believe there any power
the United States TO alter the constitution Of this State
for the purpose Of enabling il pay this debt or any
power modify the form Of territory for when IL -
n state IL could he altered.
CnriRf-Any State can alter its constitution, pro-
vded there no change made that is contrary to the
constitution OF the United States.
Mr.. CARN-But was it likely that this State that had
repudiated its Debts, would take measures obtain an
be to enable them to pay debt which they would not
payY II the Commissioners allowed the claims Of the
bondhoders against the United States governm Mt the
matter might be afterwards adjusted between Congress
and the State but II they decided against the claimants
now the convention would bar them for ever for her
Majesty bound to accept any settlement that took
place. as settlement Of the claims Of her subjscts
General Tnoxas-As against the United States.
Mr. CAIRNS ventured to say with great submission,
that having established the Claim he should have the
declaration of the commission that the claim good
The not analogous to the Of Canada
AS province Sanaas Mas bound to pay the debt for
taken place which closed up their Florida to
obtain OF the debt With regard to the of
Columbia the fact Of its being the seat Of government
did not affect the argument resulting from the crcum
stance that in that Congress had provided the funds
tn pay of the debt.
The stands over for the decision Of the umpire
TEXAN BONps-MR. JAMES HoLDPoRDs CASE.
Mr. CAIRNS appeared the part of Mr. Holdford, and
when the State Of Texas became severed from Mexico
she in want OF money, and, above all in want Of 4
naval armament, and Mr. nodford having, pursuant to
agreement, bought, fitted out and sent steam vessel
to Texas, it was accepted by the government,
and bonds issued by the State Of Texas
e Ne HS SSsy for issued sns II o .,
and were payable in thirty years. The faith and Re-.
payment of the principal and interest Of the loan, ac-
cordng to act Of the republic Of Texas and another
act passed two years afterwards declaring that with
regard to all The loans that effected for the repub
lie up to that time the faith and Of the repub
lie pledged In the year 1s45 Texas annexed
TO the United and in consequence Of that
by the republic OF Texas passed into the OF the
United States He commended that for the repayment Of
this loan OF Mr. Holord, the import duties pledged
that Mr. Holdford in the position Of a mortgage,
that Congress had become Of these duties sub
ect to every charge that was upon them and that the
In 1850 the government Of the United States purchased
portion o. territory Iom Texas for which they
agreed to pay ten millions OF dollars, but they retained
tive millions OF dollars in their hands until every person
to whom the import duties Of Texas were pledged
should sign release generating the United States
from any claim account thereof. They had there
fore declaration from the United States that they had
claim against them, and that they had got money
their hands belonging to the state Of Texas nem
nifty. 1t asserted that there arrangement
that in should the debcnture Texas red
as deDt Inc government oil the United
States but he did not urge the claim upon that ground
He urged IT, because il was charged upon the mporr
duties and upon the public lands aud conendcd,
wfths tandipe what had hren said former occason
to the contrary that il was claim which should DE
teriained by the commission II was said by General
Thomas on former day that they going against
the five millions of dollars but that the
and he only mentioned the fact show that the United
States werc liz BILE to pay this money
General THOMAS who had addressed the commissioners
at length former day briefly contended, the part
of the United States government that the commission
had nothing to do with this claim.
Mr.. CAIRNS observed that, when one generally
called upon to reply, there was something to
but there was nothing to reply TO in this case.
The stands for the decision of the commits
sioncrs.
Revelations of the Baromcter-Thc Spiritual
Telegraph Superseded.
The folio ring Interesting communication was re.
Gently addressed to the French Minister Of War; by
NJ. LIE NJ Aout, chemist OF s.. Briene:--
ST. BRiESE, Oct. 81, 1854.
MONSIEUR LIE MINSTREL cave occupied myself,
since the CONNIE ncemebt Of the Eastern war; With
series of observations on the notifications which
the atmosphere experiences from the cAnnonades
that take place. These observations made every
three hours.
have collected, on the effects Of cannon facts of
the highest interest, which 1 reader Ineligible
upon paper by the aid OF figures, q specimen Of
which send you, extracted hastily from the results
Of my observations, and which represent tae compa
raive ELECTS Of the cannonsdss of Odessa, Of the
battle oil Alma, OF the day Of the 9Th of Octoberf
lcanncn FREQ ct the Invalides,) Of the opening OF
tie 25th Of October.
/ hope to be able to establish that the barometer
Ia not, Is is commonly thought an instrument
ely Intended TO indicate rain and fine weather.
but mobile apparatus excessively sensitive, which
places us In communication with all great atnos-
pheIical phenomena.
What Is remarkable in this instrument II, that at
nom GOO to 500 leagues Of distance an impression