The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-06-28


close all debateabe questions Mr.. Trist under Presi
dent Polk, offered fifteen millions for the right of way
for railroad way across the sthmus of rehuantepec
We now &c, more than this for ten millions He replied
TO hr BeDon denying that the privileges of House
nave been invaded BY the negotiation Of this treaty
MI HAyKN, (whig) Of n Y, said he understood Mr.
Jones as taking ground, others who preceded him
had that the House has the constitutional right to
withhold an appropriation for treaty IT, in their udg
men and good sense IT was for the interest Of the coun
try. That being SO, he did not design to says word
about the abstract right 1t question of expe
diency and the only subject the face Of the treaty
and the brief message which the President has thought
ecedent treaties The treaty Of Guadaoupe HidalUo AMI
the treaty OF Amity of 1881 With regard the
article the construction put it the gentleman from
fennsyiyania, (Mr Tones,) and others, that put
on It by the last administration, which he proceeded
TO SHOW He did not know what he ought do with re-
temen that the House has the right to withhold the
appropriation That is question of expediency and
simple test OF the treaty He would take that and Do
satisfied 1t stsod there and there alone He then al
luded to the rumors aoa concerning the move
ments preceding the negotiations of the treaty-not
report was true, credabe to all parties. It was there
fore due that the correspondence should be laid before
Mir. tAYIEy, (whg) of Va asked whether the gentle.
man knew OF case where the correspondence pub
changed?
Mr.. HAVEN replied the gentleman had had more expe.
i nco 1aah ne nau, anu tnat ne ala not profess to
know II, however, the correspondence not given,
they must vote in the dark
need for the documents.
Mr.. HAVEN remarked that all the information furnish
ed was on the face Of the treaty He had according to
the argument to vote yea nay but had the right
to know The contents Of the corresponpence He asked
Mr. Bayy whether if outsde the message of the Pres
dent the treaty fraudulent and adverse inter
ests of the country he would vote the appropriation
because the treaty spoke for itselfp
Mr. BAyLY said, in the construction of legal instru
menfs, his opinion was they stand themselves. He
did not believe much in protocols explanations which
are given than by the correspondence They rather
the arguments of counsel not affecting the Judgment of
the court When he had the treaty before him. and had
the antecedents he should be very likely to have his
judgment satisfied as to its bearings and effect
Mr. HAVEN replied, he would too when he ad the pre-
cedens He wished to know the parties attending the
Mr. TAYLOR (whig) of Ohio, understood Mr. Jones' (of
La to assert that President Fillmore offered the Mex
can government six millions dollars to get rid Of the
eleventh article in the treaty of Guadalupe Hdalgo
he asked Mr. Haven whether he had any information,
official or otherwise, concerning that subject2
Mr. HAVEN had no hesitation iu communicating what
information he had So far he knew of the preceding
who was privileged to enter and obtain information by
the back door. He had beard of such PROPOSE
ton being made as that alluded to by the gentleman
from Ohio nor did he believe ii was made. He re-
peaed he wished to know more of what the gentl
from Virginia (Mr. Bayy) calls the antecedents-the
Mr. BAYIY interrupting, said-when he spoke of ante
cedens he did not alude to the but he
meant the relations which existed notorousy and openly
between the two governments not diplomatic correspon
dence
Mr HADKN repeated he wanted to know all the crcum
stances There men able to vote without further
information, such his friend from Virginia. He was
not an enemy of the administration in it's just purposes
end of the that the changes to which he had nj
luded should be put to rest this treaty for retro
dence if produced would put these rumors to rest.
Mr. Phillips, (dem.) of Ala, denied that this House
has any privileges to be invaded This House possesses
certain constitutional rights, but have privileges
the word is used, relative to the legislation Of this
country In the British III authorities we hnd that the
He replied at length to Mr. Benton dissenting altogether
from the opinions Of that gentleman.
Mr. RICHARDSON, (dem.) of Illinois, rose to personal
explanation Re had been accused Of act for which,
were he guilty, he would deserve be expelled. He
called attention to teegraphc despacth which not long
since appeared the New York Daily Times purporting
to be sent from this city,
astounding fand has just been discovered BY Mes:
II Mr. Richardson stated to the House that his sub
layton proviso when in fact s had clause pro
sdins that no other than citizen o. the
the principles the bill.
Mr. CAMPBELL, (free soiD Of Ohio, desired to say to
the gentleman and the committee, inasmuch as his
name mentioned in the despatch that in various
conversations this subject he said he regarded the
Iossage of the Nebraska bill great fraud but he de-
sired to say to Mr. Richardson that at time did he
intend to charge the gentleman with perpetratng wilt
full fraud.
MIR. RcHARpsoN-Do 1 understand the gentleman to
say perpetrated any fraud at all?
Mr.. CAMTBEIL replied no; thought the passage of the
bill violation of the rules. Some months ago,
when was at ,me, received telegraphc despatch
urging me to return to Washington as it believed
| a snap judgment the absentees My con-
stituents became alarmed, and urged me to re-
richardson sa was IS inoapabe Of commtsu nit snap 3da
ment for intercourse with him during the pending of
the measure intimate and PERSONAL and so far from
having such design, knew he would take no such ad
vantage. thought his course had been open and frank
perhaps much to the foes TO the friends Of the
BILL and at time could discover the part of the
gentleman effort to take improper advantage still
hold to my opinion that the Nebraska bill was passed in
| violation of the rules.
Mr. am t1v tis6a wi
genleman's statement; 1t is clear and full am salts
fed the person who sent the dispatch had authority
the authors and endorsers of the Dispatch whoever and
wherever they may be, infamous liars He then pro-
ceeded to prove and establish the truth of his denial
ferrng the card and saying he had merely restored
in the bill the words which Mr. Clayton's amendment
/ struck out.
Mr. KEIrr (dem) of s. c., made few observations in
support Of the pending BILL and vindicatng Mr. Gidsden
in reply to Mr. Haven who afterwards rejoined saying,
far from doing Mr. Gadsden wrong he ought to do him
justice
Mr. GEERn1 SMITH, (abolton) of Y, said he not
whatever IF the Sy
authorities and BY the President and the Senate 1t
is law IN the language of the part Of the
supreme law of the land 1t is law whether not the
House approves it. and law which Mexico enforce
this nation, and it Is binding the nation. 1t is
law and all have to do is to obey it, unless gross.
y and violently wrong. and cannot in good conscience,
be obeyed. He gave his views on liberty and State
would not consent to wait ier Spain, Ii this Is asus-
tering, axe The most of II. Gaughter) With
him IL was question of human rights and
philanthropy. lie did not sabpcrbe to the doctrine
that Ire Amercan people slaves Of the government
The of 10000 0o0s to give for this trea
ty SoO00,Ooo Is large he looked the treaty,
in the language of the day. imperative and void Tor
want Of the money. Oaughter.)
Mr. oDDIACs obtained the hoor, but yielded 1t to Mr..
Pechham who eaa Il hsd been suggested by the gentle
from Alabama that he not in earnest In calling
the President the correspondence relative the
treaty.
4 Mr. HorsroN denied that he said any such thing
| Mr. PkcAHAM replied the call made for the very
purpose stated in the resolution. He asked the commit
Zee to rise In order that he might submit it to the
/ House.
Mr. HorsToS desired to say the resolution yesterday
! wos proposed TO he offered at no late period.
/ Mr. PEcKHAM ssid the correspondence had been laid
before the So nate IL could te here by in
time for the FIVE minutes debate.
| The comnitte rose.
Mr. PEcKHAN asked leave to offer his resolution There
being no quorum present Mr. McMUIEy moved that the
| House adjourn.
MI FBElrs said Mr. Peckham could not get the infor-
| nation the President not being in the city.