The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-12-15

to which th gentleman alluded was al abuse OF power
tantamount to usurpatiou.
Mr. CAhrBxLL wished The gentleman 10 answer yes'
everywheres
Mr. srtPnSs-If Congress pass such a hill II woaii
BE- usurpation, just mach tho tax ng Of these
col nes, and as Lord Chatham said he "woad resist
it,
Mr. CANPn1I-That is not an answer 10 my qu. stoo
Mt SrEPHKSs-lt is my answer To tue -ntiemaa
Nr CAnPpELL sail that he shoui ths gen
u.man that Congress has the power, aud that it
solves, IN the gentleman's Judgment into matter
Of expediency He proceeded to Mr. stephens
course the bin for the admissi Of California aud
tleman.
Mr. srnHEys-I win reply as understand the gentle.
man is candidate for the Presidency.
Mr. CANrBELI-Thc gentleman mistakes; am candi-
date for 10 Office and was sent here against my per-
son desires for the purpose Of exposing the inconss-
Mr. SrYrHKSs-iiie gentleman will nnd the labor VII
not pay If he undertakes to expose Inconsistencies.
on the Texas annsas,ier rssoiusipns xheS easaSsS
slave from some portion Of tho Territory hereafter to
's~orn to support the constitution OF the country"
be formed into statea Why aid hs vote 70 take a~ay
from the people that Territory rsht ESTABLISH,
their own institutions n their owa vayS Hs declared
the people Of sovereign State sbai l. ot d.it
Mr. sInnKNs-Di ever say il W., in violation Of the
constitution to give such voter
Mr.. CANrnEIL-The gepilemaa does not say anything
on that point. tried TO get him to put himse th'
record 1 ask him whether Congress has powes /,
cude slavery frou the Territories.
Mr.. STEPHENS lin ieigned voice contemptiously -
II the gentleman has not got TO say 70, wh-r,
my incon sstenciesy daughter
Mr. CAMPBELL n like manner)-His incon tencits
marked by his declaration here today. II. Il
letting the people regulate their affairs for them
selves but in S4S lie voted against it in the Texas
pexation resolutions
Mr. SriPnESr-lhe gentleman said that ia 1915 was
against permitting the people 10 act for themselves
everywhere could not then get the North to agree to
she line of SO 80 voie for the MEASURE not because
thought it right but for the sake OF union AMI
mony. consented to 1t compromise hut thought
the line ought to have been extended North well
South.
Mr. CAxPBErI-I regret the grnt emsn has not given
better explanation II believe that un Ter the con
stfution the people have this right AID that Con
grcss should take it from them compromise
ten thousand Unions, should induce me to violate my
oath.
Mr. STErHESs-Does the gentleman mean to say in.
tmae, that hold Congress has the power deprive
the people Of that right
Mr.. CAMPBELL-No. But have s-ught for two or
three years to the opinion Of the gentleman this
constitutional point put upon record de continue his
remarks upon the subject the repeal the Nebraska
bill of the Missouri compromise, regarding it as great
wrong and to be resisted 10 the bitter end
Mr. WAsnBURS, (whg) OF Ill nois, wsh-d to disahuse
the gentleman from Oe0rgia, who asserted there had
been Nebraska triumph in Illinois. He
right in stating that the issue fairly made
in that State the Nebraska Kansas b and that Mr.
Douglas had spoken the merits Of the bill the
instead Of the bill being endorsed by the people Of the
state, it in fact rcpudiatei by popuar majority
OF from IA 900 20 10 90 votcs-taking the votes
berr Of Congress-and by large anti Nebra ska majority
in the legislature The ant-Nebraska majority in his
own district was seven thousand
The ,ebate here closed by limitation The Committee
rose, and the House adjourned.