Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1854-06-30
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nst TO discuss the estimates Of the Foreign Department
All the public galleries thronged with spectator.
and in the diplomatic tribune observed the Amba,
ssdor OF France the Charge dAGaires of Au,,r;. am
four or i've other foreign Ministers.
N. Solar della Margarti opened the discussion v;.t
Ad to call the attention OF the chamber TO the sti
non OF our relations with Rome portion Of the uatior
deplores unfortunate differences with the HoIv s..
In order to reesabsh perfect calmness In society and
not 10 incur the well merted reproach of leading us q,
schisn, the Government should come frank and Iowa
uncefstandiog with Rome hear everybody speaking o
hoeftj, Independence, aud constitution as the nat9ra
parmony OF all except the members of the CLERGY ana
everything belonging TO the church. We proclaim ths
o'ohoihy OF property. saving that OF the church We
desire equality in the eyes of the law and exclude the
clergy from its enjoyment As the son. however canno,
De independent OF his moter the be in
dependent oi the church Ministers perfectly right,
and commend them for ito occupy themselves v b
commerce. railways aud the army, but independently OF
material interests the people have moral intere.ts N
which II IL the duty of the Government to attend.
NJ Dabormida-I do think that the Kings Govern
ment can De accused OF not asserting, both home and
abroad the Independence of the country The Ministry
desires a anxiousy II. Solar della M,rgri,s the re
establishment OF friendly relations and perfect under.
standing with Rome. Serious negotiations are now pepd
ing TO that effect Unfortunately the result il no, lk
to respond to our desire and the Ministry but
in mind that. whatever may It's love for religion and
de!etence or bis Holiness has other duties % tu to-
wards the country We respect the rights of the Holy
Father but We insist on his respecting Toe
rr obstacle TO the o. negotiations il the hos
tile attitude oil certain who To
otif that cur liberties ere ephemersl, hold the
prospect oil more satisfactory arrangement after their
overihro~ When that hope shall have vanished ,toseth
.r vi" become easier to treat with chances of
NJ Borela-I am Of opinion that the Government should
not atc dit Minister 10 until >, me cI unre takes
place IN the attitude Of that Court where still find the
same eh'e'; Anorelli his secretary; Lrmbruschui his
~oEs'i; and Naron, his project la order to succeed
at that Coarr, should ike Naples begin nv aboshing
"e cor situn"n and renounce all liberal policy, continue
to pay 1000 lives to the Nunciaura, send supplies to
me sundrfouru, TO Don CrTos, Don Miguel and all the
fretenders who have pledged themselves restore the
qnsion, ard finally, recall such rebels Moronga and
franIoi To direct our relations with Rome, should
'ue on! require aiaEyer, versed in canouic law. Bel
gum sa Catholic country, aud has no ambassador at
| Rome. Why should follow her example?
III. solar della Aarmura-Consideratiou have been ad-
aueeu as mliiatng against the chance Of esabshinp
friendly relations with Rome, and the hon. members have
omeu 10 speak OF the principal obstacle that
snmeht-namey, the lcentousness oi the press which
daily insults the church. the bishops the Sovereign Pon
uh-in word everything sacred and respectable on this
earth In order to convince the Court of Rome of the
friendly sentiments which animate u.s. should likewise
prevent the scandsiUus construction of Protestant
and arrest the progress Of he,erodox prosolytsm.
Count Cavour Minister of Finance apd President of the
conceive love the Catholic religion aud the
holy athe but We have also defend The rights of the
State, and TO reconcile all those rights proclaim
ed the principle Of religious liberty cousecrated by the
constitution and required by civilization. When the
moment shall come to explain the Of negotia
ons With Rome Count della Mtrgaa will perceive that
we never put forward preensou calculated lessen the
influence oi the Holy Father in matters exclusively
hg'ous Its, no doubt difficult but not impossible
Borella justly remarked arrive result and the Go
vernment will peFsevere, and only negotiate when
all nope lost to conclude arrangement, founded
becoming aud reasonable bases Asrespects the rgorou,
measures recommended by NJ Della Margara sganst the
press will observe that the best remedy against the ex
cesses o the press Is afforded by the press itself If the
Count wished 10 the Influence be possesses over the
religious press 10 mpart TO moderate tendency
he would obtain beneficial results and this course would be
preferable to his unmerted charges against the ministry
who faithful TO its device, will continue 70 respect the
laws, lb'rty, the church, and the clergy.
NJ Saerio-lt is strange to hear the words ''indepen-
dence and Liberty" drop iroa .he lips OF Count della
aargara, who during l6 eSerted himself s.ie
BOTH Tor ny part, If had a reproach address to the
Cabinet 1t would be- to have acted with becoming en-
ergy towards Rome, and have sufficiently protect
ed that religious liberty which it boasts 10 supports for
TO my knosege the funct;onaies c the Government have
more than once prosecuted the Protestau.s 10 deren,
paTts OF the kingdom. Rome, in my opinion has 10
longer claim 10 independence since she called 20 her
sis'ance the oTdros of France Austria and Spain Mur
murs)
The Pfe:ident-l remind the Deputy Valerie that it is
not permitted to use such expressions in this hall
NJ Naerio.-l merely cited historical fact
TIE Presiden-I repeat and maintain that the expres
sion you haze used is Gnbecoming
" Saerio.-What other expression could use to stig
matiZe men who overthrow the Republic
The fresident-We are not here discuss the conduct
Of other Powers with whom the Kings Government is on
| friendly terms.
plain OF the choice Of the accredited by Govern
ment 10 carry the negotiations Since ls4s we sent to
Rome our most dis; inguished statesmen, Balbo Pnel
Sccardi What more could do, unless ;hither
all our Cabinet! Laughter) Rome is procrastiua;ing;
she expects better times when she will have with
less enlightened aud less liberal men,
NJ. Dibormida.-When Rome shall he copviocsd tb,,
the constitution is deeply rooted in Piedmont her Govern
ment viii! abate its pretension,
VI. Soler della NsFEasilta-I beg the Chamber to rc-
mark that IL portion OF the people did not share mi
opinion should have th, honor of being one of IL
members, for my sentiments well known I maintain
that the constitution insures heriy the Catholic re
gion, toerton ony 10 Dssenter and that the separa
ton os the church and State may conceived in hetc
rodoS Government, but not in Catholic country.
! The discussion was Afterwards closed. and the Asscm
bly, having voted virou, articles OF estimates adiDurn-
The Chamber resumed the 9th the discussion on the
estimates pf the foreign department Rurrll moved
OF so OUU the credi, Teouired iot III.
/ X Rs Au i ga'iou.
" l. not" hr said, the mompn, when the Western
Powers tav- Withdrawn their rom ST. Peters
burg that We should aScred Minister the Russian
| Court.
IN BipncheH- The more so as Ru sta has ARBITRARILY
'eLed large quaniiy OF grain belonging to sArduiSp
I merchants.
~. D,bormida.-I am fully aware of the importance
Of the cl'ims merchant and especial Instructions
nave been forwarded consul 0icssa but every
body will appreciate the iueIpeercy OF ptoclamlng
Rnsss"
The assembly acr~ ward, voted the credit Tho discus
sion next opened the item demanded for the legation
! 10 France.
M Nelcna.-Thc Chamber will permi; me to observe,
that Belgium does not sow more than as 600 francs for
he; legation Paris while that Of Piedmont 100
francs, and nevertheless Belgium has Interests ar more
considerable than ours 10 Ffauce
an D,hormidh.-we must bsgin by dsduciing from
the 900 francs 10000 for the consulate The House
may reeoeet that Piedmont represented Paris
by minister pspipoienilry (M Coleguo whose meri,
aud modesty universally admitted. Well. he was
obliged to resign that poet because the salary allowed to
him by the Government was insufficient to bis
expenses and nevertheless he Of the simpes,
| habits
IN. Borcllh.-We have longer at court either lux
| urF, pages, velvet mantles. We have reduced the
salaries OF the Ministers aud the Presidents aud are
Sfrsd touch those Of the ambassadors. So that
representative in Paris receives salary hve times greater
than his superior, the Minister for Foreign Affairs
"M Dibormdi The State cannot With proptiety place
s officers under the necessity Of eSpendiug their
| private fortunes to represent the State
! "Couut Cavour.-We must take care, with that eyag
gcrated desire Of diminishing public expenses, not to
reduce representatives abroad 10 humiatng position
The Minister Of Belgium ia Paris Is true receives oni,
46OOOf but that dpomaiist is always invited and ne7er
invites. [iaush,er.l The ambassador Of belgium 10