The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-06-27
men opposed to the bill have moved the amendment:
it snow in order to debate the bill and vie the a,or

submit the motion strike out the euacting clad
expect to vote fr il but in order that no other motion
may be made until get through with it. said that
expected to vote or this Di not however, bee be
heSc 'hat am bound to vote the money because the
and Senate Of the United States have made
treaty with Mexico in which it promised to be paid
that nation entertain such doctrnes. hold that
free, that every member Of this body and thai
the House itself free in voting this bill reject
I y the tay does not meet their appreciation, to
lect tie most tr'ng and ordinary appropriation which
may be brought into Congress- shall vote for It, not r
consideration of the small of land that we are to
g but because the treaty abrogates the article
Of the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo Of f. bruary ls4S
and releases US from all the obligations, real su
posed and all the apIlicatiors and harrassments
Tor Expectations committed by the Indians from our
siee of the line. 1t to get clear of our obligations
under the eleventh article Of that treaty OF S4S that
shall vote Tor 'hs biil and not because feel myself
at all bound to do because the treaty has been made
Mr. benton observed-When the federaI coyernment
was framed Patrick Henry objected to the constitution
on TIC ground that the powers Of the purse and SWORD
were given to lie execurve Ec meaut the unlimited
power OF raising money and navies and armies nd felt
CLAIMED for the possible consequences If those two
g at powsrs TO slip away from the many to the few
and 10 eoibto the Lauda - the President th there Is
danger of Eenrys apprehersions being realized e mad
accustomed hear il sad by aged men that Il WIS
an lusory tower Rranted Concre,s; chat the real
power was granted to the executive who cooducts our
foreign negotiations-who quarrols or not-and when
he does quarrel, cur people will fght-so that we con-
si.er the power Of he sword ahch Patrick Henry dread
ed as havng passed away from Congress With spect to
me o"tF OF INC purse we have constitutional clause
which oonbGes 10 i. booy he power TO orignaie bur
dens , on tue people. Where did get its From the
British constitution? from Magma Charias No The
htitsh government got it from their Saxon ancestors
mno carried II 20 Britain from Germany The English
nave vtneaied this privilege and Their House of Com.
mons aon- has imf osea burdens on the people II i.
the pride boast ana glory of England that she has al
proof OF s fact, and then said so help him God he
knew poihing worth saving in the constitution il the
frsioebt and Senate con take when they please money
thing be could say coul nouce the representa- tivea Of
the people to think this subject he should consider
should rejoice in the circumstance VIII ch brought him
here this day to plead the privileges Of the
people and the coussisution-to plead for the
Only thing which, being lost, there was nothing
D the constitution worth preserving. The contest
Of 1S4o betwee, Charles the First and the British Par
lament, which brought on the overthrow of the rnon
archy the identical which we now have before
us Mr. B. referred to treaties in former days to show
the sotton Of the House on such subjects contendjnr
that v1en treaty acts matters within the eysativ
POWER Of the Hcuse that very the right Of the
house attaches and which has the authority and be-
End coner the expsdieney nexpediency of trea
~ itself precisely as the public gooa requires The less
the people have the better Jefferson thought for
the government and the people. The message of the
President, lately commnnicated preeludes the Eouse
rom the Icwer Of acting on the treaty. The message
was nothinGn the world tut demand for our check for
len million dollars, and thc brief notice and without
any days Of grace Give me the morsg bv to-msr.
row. This lie like the highway rnsn's co,,mani--0S.na
and deuver" The Presi6cst says he must havo the
Wo.cy soon vnout giving us reason or reasons
because he says it is necessary. Benton considered
his his invasion OF the privileges Of the House The
consulting the House to the imposed on
The people; and having done III to deprive them Of
rev States he senes here tr:atyana such treaty.
IS Isl gives $4,000 900 for selvage OF terri
Tory. ebert j. Walker has just informed the world
hat, before ne heard Of the Gadsden treaty. he paid
'ny s6,5c0 for the privilege Of nasng 8 railroad
tmongh h chihuahua and Sonora, while to pay
sl0 0O0 1t would be curse 10 us to have such ter
n ouud.
friend who stayed all nigh with him. next day seeing
could dene what was passing in his mind But tie rro
sn. don't own ali this poor poor land" s"' tia 1nsagh
God strielen country through which Il the " treaty |
else could is'f Wss rSus ay
an e to Protect seaa r. aso, m
United States so that the enemy may cut 1t up
question was decided under President Fmores admins
ratcn. he then commented on several points in the
treaty saying by We are to get rid of the eleventh
article of the treaty Of Guadalope Hdalgo; but
not bound 10 pay faItpg under that. When he
the Senate he voted TO strike it out because he fore
it would give rise to quarrels he had idea, how
[enses We only to force, il necessary, to
prevent Indian ncursions from side of tho line
Tic lainst giving so GOO 900 for route for rail
outside of the United States and against involving
ourselves with private railroad speculators
Jones, of Tennessee could not to strike out the
enact:ng clause Of the bill and during the debate this
point, several gentlemen argued as If snap Judgment
TO be taken the opponents Of the measure in
the of the Nebraska Kansas bill. The point
with notice that it should be renewed in
case OF necessity.
Mr. BAYlY, (dem Of Va, remalk lked when he obtained
the oor he felt like the ancient navigator crying out
:. ltaa;' but what was his surprise when be thought
he in sight OF apdhe met by some small obsta
ces in his path including the point OF order The gentle
from Missouri had referred to England and France
and to the practice of other Powers the continent Of
Europe, relative to treaty making The goniemn N,
however, with all bis learning and intelligence,
bad fallen into great Inconsistencies He said
the English crown never undertakes to harden
the PEOPLE without consulting the Commons and
so to France. The gentleman would recollect the
treaty which Mr. Eyes negotiated with france, where
the crown agreed to pay this government certain moneys
without consulting fhe Chamber of Deputies. jet
made point with the French government, aud on that
occasion lie had abler defender than the gentleman
r, m Missouri that the Chamber Of Deputies bonnd
to make the appropriations, though it not consulted
In advance. Yet the gentleman comes here, an in the
funess of the Information which he possesses, tells
that appropriations made in advance Of The
ton OF treaties. Mr. Bayly referred TO- and answered
other parts OF Mr. Benton's sreech He ventured to
Jefferson thought appropriation by Congress
enlarged his powers under the constitution treat for
the acquisition Of Louisiana. He thought within the
sphere OF their respective orbits each department OF this
go,e act without reference to the other.
.ongrtss has the power to Withhold appropri ons. As
to whether il shall be dorc, depends circum.
stances. When treaty has7been made by tho presi.
dent and two thirds of the senate, the appropriation
ard raiorous disregard OF the rights of the nation.
This brought him to the inquiry whether this treaty
in such lalpabc dcrogation OF Ne rights Of this nation
that losing sight of all Difference to the treaty making
the necessary to carry 1t out should be
wi'hhed. What difference, he asked there in ask
ing money in advance, at the conclusion OF treaty
Was not the effect the same? The appropriation
precedent contingent the conclusion Of the treaty
The treaty provided for Southern Pacific Railroad and
he conceived the opposition Of the gentleman from Mis-
souri, from the fact that it interscrei with ban
ling of his lie further advocated the treaty and
BILL and in la'on to the eleventh article in the treaty
of Guadalupe Hdalgo which this proposes to abroga
sad he d learned that claims amounting to $40 900 600
whether just not had already been preferred against
by Mexico, owing to its alleged nonfulmcnt by the
United States. In conclusion, he combated the argu-
ment Of Mr.. Benton, that in the negotiation of this
treaty the privileges of the House have been violated
Without concluding the subject, the committee rose
and the House adjourned
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