New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1854-04-05
THEOLOGICAL DISCUSSION
& no THE SCRIPTURES TEACH THE FINAL SAL
WALTON OF ALL MEN"

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discussion on tie above question ~ss connsccei i''
evening 81 the TaberDa s before very large saaea7
ths Affirmative being taken BY rHoxAs J. sA"i SS' ~ u
Tniversais,l and tbe negative By Isaac "ssFVo'"
d d Raptei Prsyer hsvsag been offered by the t's''
Dr Honor,
W s,vrrE roe and sad TIA, in opening this ds'ls
sion d. would make orsl r1nary r nTSs ih're -
he said aprejudce against s oa con-oVersS II ssae'
and again, ora discus ION in particular lie eoai1 NO So
why such scussons may 70; be made eaiasn'y p10A'
ab. ifthey be CARED Ga win canior and Christian
SORT \ CHRISTIAN II be SEX discussion IS SD 20 BE-
lover @: xc:reen; sui agitation y, every reform hlS
been carried on ny TIA; very Essns In s2o'be 'n -
the servants CT Ch-, regarded ma wa tnFael
TIE world upside down. Introducing new gods religions
and lv, II was BY such th,t toe GOSPEL Of our
Lord va. cared forward in the Apn-iolc age anitl
world nows what s.s then accomplished "neos 10 We
find such fruits from our elegant churches aai we've,
cu ions snd satin MINISTER VINO aye 700 leu.s.. au
whose -eru,s.ion is too delicate 70 ao" % di'pauoa
1fe " hose opnions false saG Tho arr CONSCIOUS 81
tNerw.akness are never benefited by di-ci'soh-'1ey
aye not 10 DC CONDEMNED for beng chaFF % '-It
and ers roii. in sueeriDg ~ arsuTle aGt,n "lru NJ
to-l4 BE- either sfrsd ashamed 20 defend Ms re
cc,,.i1rs he trusted ne might have ar honesty hot
tie grace. ab-ndon them Orsen' Lslnsr' 49,
ana oder ein-n Christi do not shrink tt9n NC %
~ These remarks BE- deemed Gu 70 as opponent
ard himself They claimed 20 be- governed D. Inel' syH
ctiors Of truth and duty though they dsred whey
on ucIt II moment and they proposed there % opea 's
Bible before them GnC IN candid sprt % discuss
toprs OF difference No can nave an interest IN &C
IT,, in error Truth alone strengthen virtue auI IN
crease spir,ushappiness and peace theqleont0 oeu
sad htefr the Holy SCRIPTURES tcGe ne FHdi sac"
on ot al He sand he need not speaA OF the
Of H., beet Our own salvation Is lnlh,ti! ueA -
rr i've and svrnp.ihies 90 our still further and EN-
hrace the whole human family lie could conhdenuy Is
,e-t ore thiDg-whatever be our faith or me rua no hu
man ul AN be satisfied BY salvation less than anver
al We. the question dOc' not merely concern tue des
INV Of Ire human II teaches Tue government
G urdr which tie se~tny Is w0Igai ana reiet'' III
rectl, urcn the Divine character liseN ihe ~" anu
80 e-.t;p tte rAe- ana his work. cannot be sepafa
rated IS the Ultimate le which crowns every e1'Sr
e,lo an.i win exhibit the true character OF him who
originated and cnuied il through - it, termination ~
won be hi, aim 70 show thai IN the eni 81 hunn sols
sha bv q Grace Of God be saved iTon sin AID be maze
holy ani happy that the spiritual harmony bst"e9n q 1d
and H. r"rul create rs VIII disturbed by SIN saah Dc
res;erfd at every knee shall bow 70 things IA heaven
ard things in the earth AID things under tue ea.n anu
Yer tonoue snail confess tina. he is Lord to the glory
Of Cod the Father So that all souls being subject 10
Cb-i.t he ha in time become subec to the Father ihs
God may b. all in al In OPPOSITE 70 this two ppstIous
my be taken the one tla the uhFeirn'Hne snai i 10
an,ib9ted the other that toe wicked though .aey I'VE
shall be banished from heaven and from Ooi
EXCLUDED from opportunity OF repentance ana ln
PROV eme1t and subjected TO the tortures Of te
The latter ne presumed would he the position held oy mas
h,other orronert. They would all agree 10 one tnIng
that he wicked must be reformed and saved, or eise ne
either Inflated or iorev er unhappy Tie ~ond mnntah
thathe final say alton OF ali was the doctrine OF me boe
ard one in harmony with bet feelings wishes and
rravers lie would first show this was the end God con
i,rfsts in the creation OF man God infinitely g,o1
Wse erd illnchty What then, be the object 81 GOd m
man ere atiOn-it might be something IN harmony WIN
h.s infinite wisdom ami goodness-was Tor ahhinuatoh
or for eternal torture No but 90 be coniormed To hs own
mace and 10 become holy aud happy and SHINING at s
around his throne ike in the hfmsment forever Gal
yns say some and angels were created on purpose
Z, be damned With strange Inconsistency the Prespye
rars in the cstocLm the chrf end Of man - 10 go
rim God and a. o. ham Orcrer which is yery inconsistent
v1h belief ia eternal hell fire Thet Is eud worthy OF
q 81 and
seadlly aas il been pur,ued under all his dspeh7Soh
everything pointing to the time when shall De accom-
llished Gods scheme moral one; ana lisn "s,,,5
neral beings are capable Of SIM and are held IN account
hence moral government and state OF probation ms
IS meens for the attainment OF ID end ana eerahy
cnnlot aIIol his original design TOD being hoi eiuvs
holmes In bic creatures and he will never abandon US t
he have attained his purpose God will IN time u come
AZ IN times past carry biz moral government I'll al
hearts shall bee subdaed to him and all spirits be hied Win
his truth and grace. . .
Mr. NEsrcOrr said he was happy to agree with bis
brother that the subject OF vast importance l.
WIS S ernest desire that the DISCUSSION might De con
Quoted III the spirit Of candor and be felt co hdent tha
lossver much b. differed in views from his OPPONENT
notopg but the kndest feelings would exist between mem
r.rs,nsiy He ss,d he mad consolation which his tread
could not have II he IN error and the other IN the
cLt that error cou not lct eternal misery the soul
bu II be was right and his opponent wrong the error then
vii reeut in the undying sgones OF the deahiess Sprt
uth a. such Is no. y-luable, hut ihat II flndNm-nal
etrr WRONGLY Judged as truth there viii ensue III spite
Of the conviction ali the fatal consequences Of tia; error
He agreed in the main with his opponent on the expe
ot ncv Of such discussions yet he could conceive good
reasons why honest and talented ministers might decline
To take part them The time required TO discharge ther
PASTORAL duties might interfere tO preyent them Or ther
natural constitution of body and mind mi GIT cau-e them
~ shrink with repugBaLoe such debates but ho be-
eved that truth had never suffered by us conlcts win
error He sad that his opponents views differed 80 wide
" from his that he could hardly conceive OF can
belonging merely 10 different Sccts o. the same re
loiop nrd he read extract from q sermon
of niycrsa.t minister in which II was declared nyer
enl,n had different God, sinner a-onenen re SURF eclon
iuf -meut ard punishment frVm al other ClStah reeus
regard the argument that Gods attributes demand
the fuo restoration aud OF the human family he
srid that tie divine attributes are consistent WIN tne
misery q a. Gav and will be with that OF t)morrow anu
Of the next wear century and why not eternity suppose
thar ror 10 the creation ANGELS knowing 1t was the
d ssn Of God build world should reason on Ms AZ
i,e end attempt 0educe From them the condition IN
which Tie would place those who were 20 people H. ana
thar one should say booking propheiicay mo the
tial wa TO he vale OF The other might reply tnai
rs,ry in q new world would be impossible, because we
know God attributes not ~ harmony with It, fetHod
created the world aid there Is woe in IT, ana the
t ie angel would be erroneous Is tna Oh my rlebd
What tie attributes Of Deity demand 10 human being can
sv know he remarked BE - said OF men tha a. tne
lar e uCen. ile that holy lei him be ho.y san ne
fha: j. hliav e; Linn be filthy still Beyond that dare
rotUenerate into Lis He said he had other arsu
merits 10 oier in this connection but the ne failed hun
Mr SAWYER REPLIED contrasting the difference 10 Iath
between lie Cnyersas, and the CGlyinst
NJ WE,roorr rejoued briefly aiter which the dScus-
sou adjourned 10 tbs evening.
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