The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-08-07

House 70 propose, IN some terms or other-I care
nat h what terns--some restriction the suthWi-
D Of the crUwn with respect tn the prorogatton and
with respect to the reassembng of Parliament IL ID
better for me to say at that while the right hon
esabe gentleman opposite might be fairly to
contend in argument that IL was expedient 70 nave
IN antumnal session, while It might oe the advice
Which the minister's Of the crown themselves might
sive 70 the crown, that Parliament should meet
again IL the course of the autumn, 1t is not the
pat OF the ministers Of the crown 10 accept at the
ksBSs III members of this House restrictions on
their freedom In giving sucn ADVICE 70 Inc sovereign
VERY advisable to have Parliament meet again
sson or the circumstances OF Europe and
az public affairs may be such ss to render It
insxpedeDt, in the opinion Of the cabinet. to advise
an autumnsl session. We must be left AZ full liberty
= give such advice as the cir umstances Of the time;
1t the time, may seem TO US to require. AT the COM
e Lord Granville and Lord Grey we're asked By the
sovereign to bind themselves to the advice they
weuld give that sovereign with reference TO parti
s1lar measure u which he felt the strongest repug
name. Lord Grenvi)le and Lord Grey felt toat 1t
would be unbeconing in them. - advisers OF the
crown, to cripple and fetter themselves BY any such
engagement. That engagement, which these mo-
haemen refused to enter into wisn the crown, we
mons. (Hsar, hesr.) We must be at liberty TO 90
eur best in applying the great resources placed at
disposal in dire tin this great war In negotiat-
6g With the Bowers Of Europe unfettered a. to the
s when we abal ask her Majesty to take the advice
ef Parliament There will be no unwtllingness ON
our part TO call for that advice because we have ex-
psrisDced the support aud the strength which dur.
ing this session we have derived, ia the face OF
D1rope, from the nearly unanimous sanction Of Ihe
rep esentatives Of the people. tHear. hear) The
voice Of Parliament In &C 'osSiDg that sanction, has
Aas pronounced that we are engaged in q just war;
and am sure that Parliament viil pronounce that
Ne ought not - conclude it otherwise than by
Jue and honorable peace. Clear, hear) Inc
nah Ia Invd InpQl RA hv nnUi mt
&3.o00. 600 sterling.
IN repy to Mr.. Disraeli-
Lord ]. RUSSELL said-I do not admit the accu-
Yasy Of that representation. What said was that
Rnssia would not be allowed to maintain the me-
lAsing attitude she had held, by maintaining large
fefoe in Sebastopol. (Cries Of "Oh, oh.'D
After Mr.. Disraeh concluded
Lord PALMERsroN said certainly hope that the
event viii the right honorable gentleman has an
neuDced % probably taking place At the present mo
ment viii in fact be realised, namely, that what is
passing IN the debate Of this evening is flying on the
vDgs Of lightning to the ca iral city Of st. Peters
bwg. (Hear, hear.) For / think it will be the
means Of placing the power with which we are con-
tending In the same position Of alarm and conster
laton into which the right honorable gentleman
vates himself 20 be thrown by the speech OF my noble
trend. Clear, hear" and aushter.) And the
people OF Russia will find that an occasion when
The British government makes o solemn appeal to
he Parliament Of England for their confidence and
sappsrt du ing the period whatever IL may be- when
Hrt Of parliament, that appeal is met only by criti
CT ms on what s0me may think want Of energy or
vigor in conducting the war and when they
see the uDaniml;y with which the great OBJ
jects Of the COVE nment are approved by the
public, they will be struck with the manly
Keeling Of the country and see with CONSERVATION
The absens Of al difference OF opinion the main
points of the question at issue. (Hear, hear) The
night honorable gentlemen asks rs what is our
polcy7 might postpone the answer to that ques-
Don I'LL he has made up his mind whether the state
meDt OF my noble friend most excies his admiration
q overwhelms him with Consideration. Hear"
snd laugb) It may do both; for without i'm
putting TO q leader Of opposition anything which
aoes not bec,m bis position, / may say toat any
statement which excites his admiration must in some
deglee cause him c0nste rnation also. ("Hear,
hear," and laaghter.) The right honorable gentle
nan on this occasion, il be had formed any matured
opinion, which, as .he organ Of . party, We had
some right to expect, might have taken large and
semprebsnsive view Of the policy Of different 60
veSnmeDts, and enforced them by arguments derived
Aom international and European policy. But
The right honorable gentleman has given us
enasav0riDg to establish imaginary distinc-
1ons, and my noble friend must have shared in
The satisfaction which all on these benches ex-
Rerienct d, when, instead Of meeting us With hos
1or M 20 have heard daughter and cheers)-the
hight honorable gentleman argued in very agreea-
bio and friendly r-(laughter)--an merely
and laughter from tae other side Of the House,
and founded them on distinctions which had no
~. foul dation in what fell from my noble friend.
Clear, hesr) My noble friend did speak =. thu
organ Of the government, and the intentions he
expressed a. TO the arrangements by which alone
Tie security Of Europe Can be accom- plshed by the
e1.rts Of var are shared in BY his colleagues.
(HeAr, bear.) It would not be becoming in any
0s arguing in this House to lay down what he
thinks should be the result Of the operations Of
war. Ny noble friend pretended to do no such
ShiDg but he pointed out what were the objects OF
hat Jcnn DANA rf thn pOrfo ouAf
curity Of Europe against the re urrence Of events
which have led us to the present state Of things.
This must be mplished by the arms, the united
. or Who stands aloofe(ch eersS-these two great
0ountSies UNITED in one common object, they, the
greatest military and naval powers Of Europe, are
abb TO accomplish such peace and on such con6-
lions IS we think the security of Eur Jpe demands.
(Hear, hear.) Some gentlemen have found fault
with different parts Of the arrangements which have
been hitherto made. II is natural for q nation
which has long enjoyed the uninterrupted blessings
0f peace not tn be able to estimate all the difficult
Hes which are incident to the commencement Of q
great war. This is q war carried on in remote
part OF the world, and large military force has
been conveyed by sea with all the equipments ne
ee@sry FOR operations Instead therefore Of think.
ing that there has been any improper delay, any
man who knows anything of military and naval
operations; considering the short period which has
elapsed since the forces Of England and France left
their respective shores, and the dim uky at trans
porting over the sea large force, with all its
gus, baggage and equipments, l believe would be
astouisbed rather by the rapdity Of the operations
performed and the degree OF completeness which
has been already obtained, than experience
any feeling that there has been undue de-
lay or want Of proper exertion. (Hear.)
There il to be found in Turkey at the present mo-
mont two armies, French aud English, a. complete
and fitted to accomplish any operations as any that
ever took the field. (Hear, hesr.) The commanders
by sea and land are men in whom the two nations
may place confdence-(hear, hear)-and although
4 n
without accepting the invitation which has been
given us to lay our plans of the campaign and the
result OF our deliberations on the war before 1t,
mink that II Parliament has brought itself to such
conduct OF the war; and to trust US with the means
already placed at our disposal, and to give the
vote we now ask TO meet any emergencies that may
arse tits bound to believe that we have displayed