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OF he physicians II would annoy them TO come here,
80 there, orelsewhe Ii seems 10 me that the certificate
and The affidavit OF two physicians will be sufficient "a
guard 10 this matter.
Mt huNrER My idea is, that he Secretary The
lnitnof viii prescribe regulations which will secure the
giving q the cerhcaies by proper persons He will pre-
scribe Tie regulations; and would, therefore, prefer
mat me amehdmenl should be in its present form
would be willing though, II that woald accommodate
ana satisfy the senator no proposes this agree that
me pension agent should approve OF them but there
must be authority 90 this pointves,ed somewhere Some
reliable person must exercise sor OF supervision
with regard to the men who to certify 10 the dsa
biy.
Mr.. PETIT. ask lhe senator how he understands
this language? M asst these physicians be named and
approved beforehand, or will i do 10 have them ap-
proved by the pension agent Secretary of the Interior
aiisT a, hey syn hsys rrp pade NE attdayt'
MI. HUNTER do not understand that they are TO
be approved beforehand but hey to be approved
cordlng 10 some regulation have no doubt that the
Secretary OF the Interior will direct The pension agent to
approve them upon some certain cnenoR some cRrialn
evidence he purpose OF the amendment is to exclude
the certificates Of physicians who are incompetent
Mr. PETIT. There is not much danger TO be appre-
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on
agreeing 10 The amendment proposed BY The senator from
proved by the Secretary Of The Interior"
Mr. JONES, Of Iowa The existing law requires that
TIE surgeons who certify in the hrst place to put these
upon the pension roll shall have their character as
can be obtained That is the law now.
Mr. HUNTER Then why object toi, now'
lT.Jo y, a
TO their character as surgeons by member OF Congress
Judge Of court oil record. That certificate is neces
sary before the pension can be obtained.
Mr PETIT. Let the amendment say "two repu-
table surgeons
Mr. JONES, of Iowa, That is The law now
Mr.. PRATT suggest to the senator from Indiana
that possibly his view, well that OF the senator
from Virginia, may be met by substituting ia the clause
which he proposes TO strike out for the words " ap
proved by" The words satisfactory to- so that that part
of the amendment will read the affidavit OF two sur
plyslclaus o
Interior" ".4..s~ -|"."s ' a#a fsa
Mr. JONES. OF Iowa That is the law now.
Mr. PRATT Then there be no harm done by
putting It in here That will necessarily imply that the
satisfaction on is 70 10 be subsequent to the aifdavs.
M PRE h5EI oFFEk &c sReG Tns % question ha
amendment 10 lbe amendment 10 strike os, the words
I" approved BY the Secretary OF the Interior"
Mr.. PETIT. accept the modification suggested by
The PRESIDING OFFICER The question then is
on the amendment modified 10 the amendment OF the
committee, TO strike out "approved by and insert sat-
Mr. BAYARD. The object of the amendment of the
Fcommitee Is to prevent fraud aud do not that the
provision Will be materially altered by The amendment
sugg esled by the senator from Mal land DO see
that there any practical difficulty in the Of the
words approved By the Secretary Of Tie aerior," be-
cause unquesuonably must leave discretion in
the performance OF their duty TO the executive officers in
regard 10 this approva bu suppose they will perform il
in manner which will be according 10 The law, and
to carry out its object The object OF the amendment
check upon the selection OF those surgeons whose
lection by The pares without any checking power
The part Of the government would be liable TO lead TO
iraud because the government would have means
of kno wing as 10 whether they competent
anime or not, whether their certificates were worth
any hing not DO not say that prevent fraud
altoge II you do have hem approved by the Sec
retaty oil the lneroF but, al all events, by hayug thym
so approved, the government will have check upon
frauds arising from The selection by ne Individual opuon
caprice Of individual, who night design 70 dettaud
AID who might Otherwise obtain persons 10 certify, as
surgeons or phy sclans who are not really entitled 10 The
name II you strike that clause OF the section,
my judgment you TeGder II perfectly useless and nuga-
fde PRESIDING OFFICER put rbs question /; and
declared that sppeand TO re carried n the Affirmative.
St. BAYARD. call for the Yeas and nays upon IT.
Mr.. HUNTER understand The honorable senator
from Indiana accept TOT modification suggested ~ the
senator IRON Mar laBd!
Mr.. PETIT Tes, sir.
Mr.. HUNTER We sgree to that We do no; ask
die yeas ard nave upOu it
Tne PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the senator from
Delaware insist upon ths call ior ,be yeas aud Gays
Mr.. BAYARD. No, 81.
The amendment vas agreed to
The PRESIDING OFFICER The question now
ours eeng 70 the amendment reported BY The Com
nittee on Finance, as amended.
Nit PETIT, ltil IS 10 order, now propose to move
section IN lieu ol that amendment, 10 strike out
the whole Oi IL, and insert a new section.
The PRESIDING OFFICER That Is now in order
IL there be further amendment proposed 10 perfect the
section as reported from the committee.
Mr.. PETIT move, then, 10 strike out the whole
OF the amendment Of the committee amended and IN
sert The following:
That whenever The Secretary Of Interior shah have
cause Ia begye any pension las been procured by
faud lac sbAH have i power inquire tnto The by
such shall adopt and, after such inquiry aud
eramuauon, suspend the paymrnLo Of such pension tenn
poraty or hhally"
Mr.. HUNTER Personally that would be acceptable
10 bdtl am afraid that II Il i introduced It will lead 10
The debate again. | think had better vote The
amendment ID o. out, Is the majority may decide
I Mr. PETIT It's a far pfoyision and have no de-
sire 10 debate IT.
| Mr.. HUNTER | find there are persons friendly 10
ing sanction that proposed by TIE senator IRON Indiana.
| For myself, would have 40 objection TO II but am
not willing to proloug the debate further, ! think we
hal better vote the amendment ot the committee 10 or
out, as may suit the majority Of The Senae.
MI RUSk suggesi, also, 70 the senator from lndi-
ana believe the amendment Of the committee ought to
be rejected williug vote to detect fraud, but am
not wnglO subject The pensioners to the Inconvenience
which IA proposed 10 be Eretcbed BY our action here.
The section not properly maHed ~ this respect BY the
committee Bat ii is now matter ol accommodation
and suggest tie senator from Indiana not to press biz
amendment, bot lei vote doWn The amendment oi the
comm ee. The subject should be considered carefully
betote we adopt such regulation ne is proposed
/ Mr. PETIT. Ii we can reject The whole provision
shalt be glad OF II.
| Mr. BUSK desire to sec il rejected
| Mr. ADAMS. Let thequeson be taken upon the mo-
| ton 10 stike ont
| Mr. PETIT withdraw my amendment.
w. RUSk am willing to vote for any proper, WELL
matufed plan 10 detect Iaud
| Mr. PETIT. | wHhdfaw mg proposed insertion
and shall vote against e amendment on the committee
| Nj HUNTER let Us vote oa the section which the
committee propose.
The question stated to Be upon agreeing 10 the