The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-03-06

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and would not in any way act upon tho osnsivs Undsr
such ercumstances and after this assurance We had
Russia upon the Turkish territory This was the state
OF things until the horrible affair at Snope when Turk
sh heet Mt anchor in harbor which is within the terri
tory OF the Sultan attacked and completely destroy
ed when, the combined fleets Of England and France
had been present. they would have repelled the
and shastssd the m e con
junction with the government Of the Emperor OF France
felt that the time had not only TO prevent the
occurrence of similar catastrophc but ut once 70 pro-
tect the Ottoman Gag and territory communication
to that effect despatched to St Petersburg and was
But my lords whatever may be the opinion of noble
friend, did not think that in the situation In which
matters then Stood we were justified IN permitting any
aggression ON the part Of Turkey. We having under
taken to defend the territory Of the sultan did not
tho tme think that to permit act Of aggression
the Sultan from making any aggression the Russian
territory because Turkey too weak to attempt any a
erosion upon Russs and she could only have done 80
We thought that to permit aggression the part of
Turkey would be to become aggessors ourselves and
than that considered that 1t would be act Of
covert hostility, and that by permitting it. should
expose ourselves to the accusation Of allowing such
acts without possessing the manlinsss or courage
70 declare war we considered that it would be
dastardly course, unworthy Of the people Of this
country. Hear, hear.) EARLY in December we did
not declare war; because at that time we did not see
that war was at all we saw no reason to doubt
that the object had in view might be carried out with
out war; but repeat, and have doubt that your
under the mask of peace would neither have been just
nor honorable The communication made to st. Peters
burg with respect to the entrance Of the combined feet.
in the Black Sea not regarded in that friendly light
which my noble friend seems to think it was. On the
contrary my lords, the Russian government dis
satisfied with 1t that they instructed their ambassadors
London a written
the course which the French and English governments
meant to pursue they meant to establish naval ar
sh and French fleets lords did not 90 into the Black
Sea with any intention Of remaining neutral They went
any attack the part of Russia they went there to
that the existence Of weak State shall not depend upon
The win Of powerful neighbor and to maintain the pIn
ihed This being the to have replied to the ques
o. the Russian Cabinet that it intention to
prepared to support Ny noble friend has referred
to tn fact of the combined fleets not permitting the
RI ssh rs to convey troops from one part of the Black Sea
to ano her My lords this Is anomaly but not nearly
as great the occupation Of the Principalites
by the Russian troops as guarantee for compliance
with the preservation of the independence and sove-
regnty of the Sultan My lords wish to call to your
recollection an occurrence somewhat analogous to the
cognizance than myself, he at the time it occurred,
held Office In the year 1850 dispute had arisen be-
tween the governments Of Austria and Prussia which
seemed likely to lead to collision between those Powers
The Emperor of Russia at that time declared that he had
constituted himself paccator between the two coun-
tries and that he had established large basis upon
which peace might be negotiated The terms he proposed
were rejected by Prussia and the Emperor of Russia
then agreed to terms with Austria and announced that
if those terms were not acceded to by Prussia, he
would consider it cdsW bella The next point to
which my noble friend has alluded-and must apollo
gze to your ordshps for respassng so long upon
timewas that of the alliance of Austria and Prussia
with England and France My noble friend appeared to
to treat with eyity or rather with insgnfcance the
duty to make to and cement alliance between
France and this country and Austria and Prussia bnt
even since the last time that addressed your ordshps
on this question: have had to be satisfied with
the conduct Of the of these two countries
complain of the selection Of Vienna as the place at which
conference should be held although Vienna is the CAPT.
tai Of Austria and the mediation of Austria had been
asked for by the Russian government, and the first
ground upon which he objected to the choice of Vienna
that of the extraordinary astuteness of the Russian
or, az should cali II, wisdomof that Minister was
shown by his acceptance of the note agreed to by the
conference and that asuteness had prevailed Russia
would not have been in the isolated and unenvabe posi-
ton in which she is at present placed. But lords
remember that the conference Of Vienna came TO three
Of tho they the
be disturbed that the Ottoman Porte had expressed
its readiness to accede to just and honorable terms
Russia unacceptable not to be worthy
being sent to the Turkish government We have there
agreeing with US on these three points Ny lords shall
not on the occasion use harsh terms but there
be doubt what the universal opinion of mankind will
be with respect to that Power which determined to
plunge Europe into the horrors of when
It might preserve peace with honor TO- itself Cheers
The Of Austria and Prussia have replied to
the proposals of Russia in becoming Independent
countries aear England and France, 1t is true, my
lord are competent to make against Russia but with
Prussia and Austria rests either to prevent
If that be impossible to render of short DURATION and
obligations to duty consonant to the &C.
neral wish noble and generous will also bring
safety to their home for revolution will not its head
in country which is faithfully performing its duty
Hear The answer that Austria made to the last mission
from Russia was that long Russia maintained de-
fensive attitude Austria would retain expecting
but that Russia appeared determined to further
Austria would send body of troops to protect its fro
tier At the same time that, to reassure the Turks
upon the character of the operation she declared that
If the Intervention Of her troops became necessary it
would be to maintain the status quo must add my
lords, that the of Prussia to the effect
that Count Orlo did not think it worth his while to
go 70 tb must say am o. p
that cndeavors TO secure and cement alliance with
Austria and Prussia and to pay Difference to their wishes
and interests have not been misplaced. must also say
that think that the people of this country have shown
most admirable discretion during months Of excitement
and in not entering into discussions
the government before information placed before
Them andI cannot help believing that the people of this
country that they have these facts placed before
them and in possession of full information will not
regret labors in the of peace. They win
that we have abored in an eventui hour to preserve
peace with honor and II it should become duty to
declare that 1t can no longer honoraby be maintained
they will come forward In manner worthy of English
worthy of the at ISSUE and worthy Of those
allies who will now, for the first time be ranged in order
of battle by their sides. They will shun sacrifice and
neglect no effort to obtain such peace as win be con-
ssent with the national honor and to establish those
principles which they determined at any risk to
maintain. (Hear hear
After few observations of the Earl Of Elesmcre
Lord Geneg Earl Grey and other peers, the Earl of
Aberdeen said
NV lords think from the character of some of the
speeches have heard to night there be but little
doubt to the degree Of censure which would have been
cast upon her Majesty's government no matter what
II the negotiations which have been entered into had
been sooner brought to abrupt close would have
been owing to rashness, timdity blum
derng conducts and had they ended in peace Of
in bringing them to that issue should have equally
sacrificed the honor and interest Of this country ear
After all the asperity however with which the noble
Marquis (of Clanricarde) has described conduct
followed up as it has been by the noble Earl (of