The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-03-16

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and that alone do mol wish 10 enbarrass this PROPOSE
ton in any ways for trust would be more graft
fed 10 see canal constructed around the Falls OF Mag
ara Than would. That question is not involved nov
but the simple question is, whether you will keep the
business OF the Senate before the committees 10 which il
properly belongs; and for the purpose OF testing that
question: that these petitions lie on the table
The PRESIDENT. The senator from New York has
moved shss HE petitions be referred 10 the Committee on
Mr. STUART. | move that they lie on the table
Mr.. FISH The petitions which | presented this
morning. understand have already been referred to the
Committee ON Commerce. then moved to take up two
petitions on the same subject which had heretofore been
ordered to lie on the table
The PRESIDENT. The senator from New York is
right
Mr.. STUART 1 do not know how, then, the matter
is TO be reached but stated, as understood that
those petitions would be referred that committee unless
4 there was objection. | rose and made objection.
I The PRESIDENT. Perhaps the senator from Mich.
gan IL right The Chair will put the motion TO lay the
Mr.. STUART called for the yeas and nays, and they
ordered and being taken, resultedyeas I6, nays
20-as follows: a M
Ter, Clay, Dodge OF Iowa, Eyans, Geye Houston John
son, Pratt Sebastian, sldel, Stuart, and waIksr-6
ps foe
Norris, pearce Rpst, seWs,d, Shields; SUMNER Thomp-
So the motion TO lay the table was not agreed to,
The PRESIDENT. The question is on referring
the petitions e !he Committee on Commerce
| Mr.. WALKER | agree with my colleague on the
Committee on Public Lands mr. SruARTl that these pc
tons, il they relate grant OF public lands. and should
be referred 10 any committees ought 10 40 to the Commit
tee on Pubic Lands What difference is there between
this proposition aud any OF those which have been
sent TO that committee without objection. during the
presen, sessions Every proposition to grant lands for
railroads has gone TO il without dissenting voice. Ihs
subject also went 10 the same committee, which reported
against the proposition. Now, if understand this
proposition 70 mean II means mat inns shali 60
that committee will Overrue the decision OF committee
equal with itself and The committee, oo 70 which the
subject matter OF these petitions properly belongs.
MIR SHIELDS. II The senator will permit me, will
state that voted against ordering the petitions to he on
the table, not tor The purpose of overrung the decision
of the Committee on Public Lands, but TO give the Com.
millee Commerce opportunity. if il brings in any
general bill. 10 introduce this subject into IT, was my
design not to have the decision OF the Commtiee on Pgb
lie Lands appropriation OF public lands overruied
by another committee but 10 let proposition be made to
appropriate money i necessary
Mr.. WALKER. doubt not that there were many
who voted against ordering the peons to lie on the liable
with personal design overrule the former decision
of the Committee Public Lands but it looks like it,
The action OF the Senate looks very much like it, 1t
will be SO thought 1t will be deemed that the Senate,
dissatisfied with the report Of the Committee on Public
Lands disposed to give this proposition into the con-
troll OF another committee.
Mr. SEWARD | think If the senator from Wiscon
sin will allow to make remark, he Will Withdraw
his objection The first reference OF petitions in relation
TO this subject the Committee Commerce, early
in the session, and that committee have them un-
der consideration Some OF those memorials fell
into the hands OF the Committee on Public Lands, which
made report, and discharged from their further
consideration. The Committee on Commerce have had,
and have, this subject under consideration. II is
not right 10 assume or say that the COMMITTEES on Gem
merce propose 10 oyeule the decision made by the Com
mitee on Public Lands We do not know what the
Committee Commerce will do, but that committee
had the subject under consideration before the Commit
on Public Lands, and they desire 10 be deprived
OF it, Now, the proposition presented TO US is TO con-
struct shp-canal around the Falls OF Niagara That
subject is under the consideration OF the COMMITTEE on
Commerce. 1t is true that these petitions ask for grant
Of public lands 10 aid in the work. but that is mere incl
dent, which be dispensed with, whether il shall be
done by the aid OF money or public lands think that
the honorable senator from Wisconsin has this subject
deeply al heart any man; but think the Commit
Tee on Commerce Is very appaopIade M eGmm,ee 70
lion relates TO the construction OF shipcanal around
the Falls OF Niagara.
Mr. WALKER | was not aware that this subject, in
the form in which it is before the Senate had
gone either al early or late day, TO the Committee on
Commerce. II petitions praying grants OF public lands
TO aid in the construction OF this work were sent TO that
committee think that 1 am not going far when
say that the reference improper one The Com
miltee on Public Lands has had all kindred subjects be-
fore it, and lar from sending these petitions 10 the
Committee on Commerce the ground that others Of
similar character have gone there, II seems TO me that
that committee ought TO be discharged from the consd
Grafton of those petitions, and they should now be re-
erred TO the Committee on Public Lands have no OBJ
lection TO the question OF the construction OF the work
being sent to the Committee on Commerce, but when Il
is presented in the form oil proposition TO give public
lands for it, think the Committee on Public Lands IL en-
titled TO have the matter under It's consideration
when the COmmluee on IuDllc LANDS proposed 10 De
discharged from the consideration oil this subject, made
objection TO il. stated that the legislature of
Wisconsin had under consideration the subject of instruct
ing the senators and requesting the representative from
that State to vote for granting public lands Tor the con-
slruction OF the work However, the majority OF the
committee asked TO be discharged If these Instructions
shall come-and committee OF the Wisconsin legisla
has already reported in favor of them shall obey
them, and shall obey them to very extreme extent;
for II the subject not considered in any other shape by
Congress, shall propose bill TO grant lands 10 the State
of Wisconsin construct this work; for canno, see
that the legislature OF that State has any business 10 step
out Of the State and instruct ask public lands in
any other State to aid in the construction OF the work
shall, therefore, II il cannot be adopted as general
propose TO appropriate lands IN Wisconsin TO
construct the work and want the Committee on Pub
lie Lands 10 have the subject matter before it, regret
that that committee hastily discharged from the
consideration Of the subject, and should be pleased to
again go back TO the committee, that may have
time TO await the instructions from my legislature
That legislature SIR s very prohc In Instructions and
presume II will reach this subject II did go far from
home as 10 instruct 10 the canal around the
regard to appointments to office of the State and il
has now gone far Niagara Falls intend to obey
It's instructions, Il they shall come and therefore wish
much that the subject should be before the Commit
| tee on Public Lands
/ Mr.. DODGE, of Iowa. | trust that under these cir
cumsances, after the remarks OF the honorable senator
| from Wisconsin, there will be objection 10 the refer
rng OF these memorials TO the COMMITTEES on Public
Lands, even with Instructions II the senator from New
/ York desires them
MIR FISH hope they will not 60 to that committee
and BY all parliamentary usage believe, proposition is
npttO be n n mi ittee, To