New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1854-08-07

" tH secre's 81 the Cabinet. Hear he,- IrrfHrssort
NE noble iofd 10 say. nes the House shosd UNDERSTAND
clearly s.si he choos wsrs saeh the Gov..iluat pro
II Iosi !" iAfnioi = re co4fuc. = Ole var on WIN
II cut fcCcg pl'saur Wiz The; world no. be - b. .ths
ne Pine a'iiis Of Walaciia Mo.daya Ia a.. a-s
pace fIe not TO be permitted Grain - 60 under pro
&c crate o. Russia CAoerI Thai = th- Grst n. O
Seveftorcl 90 pc eestf.yrf a.d 10 C1,e ., be- en-
queTeG ard occupied. Indeed thst j. ae-.- NV en-
ftqueDce Of Gestroyiag SeSsstopol.
Lord j. kufSeh here expressed dissent but iia ~.
As pisrsr nowcrcr =; e5, sy4ssi.; -ai.- ~ ,u.-
: piersion that tie noble LoFj woald e1g!ain.
LCf J. Rufsel ;ien ,csg and ssidI may o. well state
thai whe SID r,s, that thought Rg'si cou not be
allowed to maintain tie rsensniBg attitude she has done
BY keeping 50 large fleet at sevastoPol lCheers.l
Mr. Disracl-I have done some good By the co1rse I
have taken for appeal to every geHteman- cheers !
appeal TO oVery honorable genernao whether he sits
On tbs side Of the House whatever way be Ms opn-
ion-wLethtr be hes no; been frr sx ,0urs IL fol
psraGi.e ghterl-whe:ter any speech that LA
Esde has not been guided by IN ides ossEy difsreut
rom at which the notle Lord has given - now IN
Liz statement lCLeenl Without questioning in any
gey the accuracy of the noble Lord in what he hss
stsd sss' peat the expressions which mso y nm
10 have used, llaugtter and then contrast them
with the version We hsye just heard. liearl say 10
one OF the aot remarkable n..appreheisOas that in
dsidual evr make ofwhch H. could be esp sble and
the only thing lint consoles under the mistshe H. that
Of the huneres who are present there il not one be-
Love with the exception Of those the Ire isury bench
who he's not fallen into the same Lauglterl 1
thought heard the noble Lord say that Of thes
would satisfy Che Government and should satisfy the
House and the country that the fortress which Too,
ra;ed over the Black Sea should be destroyed aud the
CrirLea longer tfs ia possession of Russia. lChers
shali till atev ard the observations going 70
make to The noble lord that point bat the noble lord
save this is take that hGd for ned in oOmyanJ with
vast majority Of the House of Commons and thai what
he oi1 that Russia longer 70 be permitted
Ia keep large naval force in the Black Sea Cheer
bt the noble lord had saIdthou n not 10 saguI
express, precise definite the fanci;ul gu lai,Jn
made from his speech with respect TO Ses asopol aud the
Cinta-l thought tie noble lord. speaking for united
Cabinet going TO free the mouths Of tn Danube and
even take away Bessarabia. Cheer an lau yh;er 1
thought had heard also. that ABOUT the time
speech made in another place nv head the
eruuent--the head Of the Government as well ca the
eader Of the Government in that pllce-oouohed in
dintreut tone and cenve:e IN very different expressions
tIetr know that when the evs arrived in this house
OF whtt hrd there passed there vas feeling OF great
distrus perhaps Of Labitua suspicion hut all found
consolation from what had fullen noble lord in
our own h"nserom the Minister who sits in the House Of
Commons speaking to the repro enthyes If the people
and they defed what mad been sal in another place up
held and encouraged by the noble lord by language which
all admired and which, in my opinion. had only
fault being OILY the fancy Of Inauguration. but which
j shall retain TO show how com plotely | niscOnceved
the statement Of the noble lord. Hear hear
Bccaue was about to say in 10 the statement
made by the noble lord Of the purposes of the Cabinet
of the purposes Of the united Cabinet about say
that though was not disposed to into discussion
10 the taking Of Bessaraba Of deprvng Russia OF
the proecoraie Of the Princpatics OF such great
feats of arms as the destruction Of SevasopO and the
conquest of the Crimea-though l not disposed
enter into discuson such of the conduct
of the Government its allies still was about to say
th did think with all due Difference the noble lord.
that his not the most prudent speech that
made Hear. did not think, that whatever were the
intentions cf the united Cabnet-even if they were so
colossal or OF vast and sublime nature the noble
lord expressed oras am said To be deceved- thought
expressedI did think it would have been prudent
he bad not expressed himself with such complete frank
ness and in manner which thought hardly becoming
tie position which we occupy in those countries should
feel that performing unworthy task in attempting
10 critice the conduct of the commanders Of the
sill when the noble lord, as mag med, did express those
brave words so much as thought, in Ercles vein did
think that at moment when troops could not 20 if
teen miles from Narna il would have been b"con-
Ing and dscreet if the noble lord had not pedged-s
thought pledgedthe united Cabinet to those objects
the decided and defni!iye policy Of Lord Abofdecns
Government llieafl say, then, that this d.s-
cussion has become most important, II have
been mistaken in what the noble lord sad !
thought ofmpOrtGnce before bee iuse the noble lord
had made authoritative statement OF the policy OF the
Mibsrya statement, it viii be remembered, that hlt
not been made in reply 70 isuns and sarcasus o which
sometimes Lear h excuse - statements not
rGrcd by iscts far the conduct of the House
concerned Tie noble lord gave nm important notice
important eu eC;s and the cOItnc: of the for test
irer rs be said the confidence of Parliament and have
right 10 refer TO bis speech authoritative statement
If il Las appeared. Well, the noble lord gives notice
takes amp time and hear from his lips an import mt
statement these important subjects The noble lords
sloCch characterized By fegyor Of feeling AM frank
Of expression which, according 10 the general feeling
Of the HOuse has seldom been exceeded A. far as the
tone Of that speech influenced will say the passions
hut the lotions Of the House il ives perfectly sue
cessul one. Atern various euene got up and 81 Jke
Some disaplroved Of members Of the Administration not
in this House some dsapproved Of members Of the Adj
musation not occupying the places which they ought
disapproy ID Of the management of the Commsslrat;
while others dappToyed OF hst-bottOmCd boats beng
used on tie Baltic lauchier but all had agreed as
to the tone of the noble lords speech, and the dis
iinc manner in which lie detailed the purposes and
objects Of the Government as to the conduct of the
war; and not Only was TINS satisfactory, but it
than satisfactory and more than they had
b4rr a tG1fo nf tIa
for six hours find that the noble lord de
II important declaration 10 Hear, and laughter. We
FIND that this statement this dehni,ive statement OF
the policy of he Government II mere Illusion iu gutter
ard if this be 20 have right to ask the noble Jrd
What is your policy ycu have policy Loud cheers
from the Opposition beIches Now Sir, l have bad
eome experience this House and many gentlemen
who have had more experience than self Very srge
scenes have occurred here aud very startling spoec
have been made but this do say IL all socerity ha
in all my parliamentary experience nothing has occuer
remarkable this imaginary speech OF the Lord Pftsi
dent OF the Council hear it has occsoned debate o.
six hours has satisfied the Hou.e and Is 10 satisfy tue
country; ana vet we now frd exactly At midnight that
has never been made. Cheers and laughter. But II
this all The noble lord told us that he no. OIL!
speaking for the Cabne-and he was very careful II IN
forming that he speaking for the Cabinet 6nd IRE
auen,y in the OF the evening Gstonhed members
have a. ed whether he speaking for he Cabinet, Tor
they could hardly trust their eGrsbut during Tie whole
Of The debate the Iobe lord saiQ thai be not only maize
this statement 10y the authority of the uu'i Cabinet
bu: he also informed the House and tie country
that he had reason believe that the French Govern
ment entirely agreed with her Majesty Ministers 10 TIE
resolution achieve the same purposes ard 10 sian the
same TENS l. that imaginary statement too The
noble Lord did not then maze that statement win reference
TO The feeling of the French Government Lord John
Russell was here understood 10 dissent from thus But
that nv lord depends on Your pieN!cu, sentence.
IL Hear, and aushier.l DO not inieAd 70 le' oHi 20
cross.examinatiop, but if tie noDe l)rI admits TIE
proceeding with reference the French Governnelt.
he mus, smit the former statement also. art ms De must
lave been dreaming when he made H. instead OF ny hay
inc dor uhr "a. q