The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-05-27
Mr., DOUGLAS. The senator irua Tennessee SAYS A,
knew H. There V not here whn did not know, h
Mi. DODGE, Of Iowa. Not ia the Senate
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Mr.. BROWN stated that / had 90 understood !, n,
wanted Distinct avo@al rom the from nlnoi
that he M favor OF thai measure, and then was abo
PROCEED say what honestly believe be true and
say certainly without any sort Of apology nowihsanA
ing the vehement manner Of the honorable senator that
believed refusal 20 give answer which justified him l.
voting for donation Of land people and at the sam
tire justified him refusing give il for the insane yh,
lead improper construction. lqualifed the sam,
reputation. Ikow that he is quite competent take car
of himseif but fl not greatly mistaken, notwithsand
ing the boserous of the senator this occasion
he win hear Of this thing again.
do make the suggestion, he seems TO think did
that he shall hear from II again but when the question
asked and when the distinctly that Ia
in favor Of the homestead BILL and that he opposed
this bone making grant OF land for the benefit OF the
insane and the other king grant OF land the bene6
of those who saneayng that one n constitutional and
the other repeat again, that the country
will wait painful anxiety know how is lhat the stna
tor draws the distinction between the bills When e
refused give his reasons the which justify him
drawing this distinction, venlurcd 10 suggest in spirit
Of unkndness that improper CONCLUSIONS not very haer
ing the senator, might by possibility BIO drawn and
the thinks proper lecture for making sugges
ton Of this Sort the kindest spirit let him do Ger
tanly did to be unknd towards the senator from ILL.,
os and regret exceedingly that he should put such con-
struction upon my declaration. say, too, that think
now when the ques ion is up, and when there is popo
son to postpone II for ten days, that the distinction had
better be drawn between the constitutional power
against grant Of land for the nsane unconst
tiona proposition and the power to vote favor of the
constitutional proposition. II the senator doe
not think So If he does concur with In this opinion
he certainly, said BEFORE the guardian Of his
reputation, of his own fame and may decline TO answer
he thinks proper. tg.a
Mr.. BAYARD Obtained the floor
Mr.. DOUGLAS. wish to say only one word in reply
the senator from Mississippi. 16
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The senator from Della.
ware has the floor. rs
Mr.. BAYARD. DO not yield the floor to the honorable
from Illinois have it; and wish to make some
remarks in reference to this question sorry any
thing which he may consider dscourteous do con.
slider these alterations reference to public meas
desirable either for the benefit of the Senate OF The
country The senator from Illinois the discus
sion he peases when am through, but wish to call The
attention Of the Senate the fact that discussing
the question before all. We going the con.
sdeaion every gentleman protesting that he does him.
self discuss it, of the merits Of the Presdes mes
sage vetong the bill for the relief of the insane poor The
ours, it matter of common courtesy TO the President
of the United States, when he has you MESSAGE
toing, or dissenting in opinion from your action on great
Legislative measure, to priat that messages
Ii is certainly improper to proiong this debate without
determining prn, the message, that may before
the Senate and before the people of the country properly
Are gentlemen afraid to let it 20 before the country do
they to treat the President with dsconresy, and n
that they will keep lying their table, imprinted his
sage, until they have fully, in their opinions, answered
the positions contained il, before 90 before s
country ai That something like the aspect Of things
the debate has progressed in this fsfh
But there is another view OF this question: On this
10 IL seems 10 Inc propObiuOh shOuiu
plain one order the part of the Senaie that the
should be printed in order that II may before Tho
country The consideration of tho message then becomes
subject Of debate in the Senate Gentlemen need not be
afraid unless they underrate the intelligence of the people
the country that they going in hasty debate TO make
such impression the public mind that il cannot b
answered hereafter. This question il not going to sleep
with mere debate to-day. Il Is great question Wt
coming back something like division upon princ
Piles, and gentlemen, think, will End that the people
this country understand principles though the idea seems
be entertained that il you only, here in the Senate
chamber. in the first instance, enunca,e particular iie
afterwards it is oregone conclusion, and subsequent dis
cuss.on can have ultimate influence upon 1t.
Ii they have confidence in tho principles which are 70
sustain this bill, they must be met hereafter before the
people Of the country for the question rot going to stop
hcre and 1t is not going to stop here, an mentioned you
because, though when such bills these are under COZ
sidcraon, and objected by individual Senator'S qus
tons which may be incidentally raised here are passed
over, yet when veto comes from the President OF TIT
United States the principles involved in that 30 hons
the people of the country. They met by calm con-
alteration. After and repeated argument among
the people of the country well here in the SENATE
chamber. think you will find the result will bs a.
pereneed here has bcen hitherto when the Congress Of
the United States has bee6 disposed TO e with the con
sututon, when the people have, alter confederation, and
after strong maoes in favor Of been broush
back to principles which necessary for the maintenance
of the constitution.
Sir, do not to into the principles CONNECTED
with the measure; but do say that ought in common
justice and common courtesy TO the President to direct @
ton not what day fixed for tho consideration o.
tbs bill (which he has sent back US, with his reasons 0
differing from us IN opinion.
Mr.. DOUGLAS obtained the floor.
MIR. JONES, Of Tennessee. Will the senator allow me
TO say word
Mr. DOUGLAS. Certainly.
Mr. JOINS, of Tennessee As the Inicrrosat,r ny whid
propounded the from Illinois seems to have
given debate and feeling and desire neither
TO be misunderstood to make any false impression o.
the mind of the senator, 10 evnde any responsibility
wish to state to him distinctly the ground upon which
propounded the question. asked him whether he YVES
favor Of the homestead bill or not lie says knew
and everybody knew So did, and stated To him .
distinctly Now the why propounded tho ques
ton this; In favor Of the homestead bill, and sm
in favor of this bill and xiii Oft the argument o.
the from Illinois upon this bill by nbutng test
mony the ether side. That is exactly Whit meant %
do have disguises about il, and do think ihsi
the senator ought have given himself any feeling sbou
IT, because he s, Of al the men IN the American Scns
just the very to play that game his ndyerssns
Have you not here forty timosf can tell HIM,
whenever get chance strike him thai way shall
be sure 1, strike him, - certain living msn
tlaughlerl ~ need not attempt to escape.
Mr. DOUGLAS. ] knew just os we'll before AZ 90
nov Tint that eas the senator's objoet.
Mr. JONES, Of Tennessee. Certainly; ] am straight
man. A eh
Mr. DOUGLAS Ard because he WAS playing that gsrn'
on me- instead Of meeting the argument then making
was determined that he should not play II successfully
Hence did him, knowing that he knew how
stood He then went cay that he with me on tn
Homestead bill EH
Mr.. JONES, Of Tennessee. So am.
Mr. DOUGLAS. Then II he knew that there was 10
necessity for he question; for ifhc knew h
wns fvr ~ unnecessary, AID IL he did not know
nc showed that he was going with on faith m m genen
accuracy and public course and had idea he could CIV
better for his action than tina, faith Lsughuf
Besides "a he going with faith, and sure
be right n he did, did choose tell him which ss
was for fear some fellow would get hun wrong bstxse
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