The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-04-02

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paragraphs Of this article and the which eventd
have taken far to show that there were indeed on
tertaned with reference to the Ottoman empire hear
hear) but that which is Of Importance In the present
Russia had made TO Sir Hamilton Seymour the most
friendly and unreserved relative to the
communcatons had been forwarded by Sir Hamilton Sey
to the British government and that most friendly
correspondence had been carried between the Emper
of Russn and different members OF such British govern
ment relative to the Emperors views which correspond
there appeared to be most perfect unity Of action and
harmony of thought existing between the corresponding
parties this contend that the British govern
ent have right express surprise at the aggressive
demonstration now made on the part Of the Emperor
to deal with his motives they not previously
communicated and understood. What appears to me
most remarkable in the conduct of the British govern
ment is this-that, while the confidential documents
ferred to show that there ambitious views
entertained by Russia and also all the papers in the com
mand Of government went TO prove the ambitious policy
solution Of the Turkish empire and its final settlement
while all this must have been evident the British govern
ment should imply that they were Ignorant Of what the
intentions of Russia really were. Hear hear) do
not complain, my lords, that the conversations of Sir
Hamilton Seymour with the Emperor, and the conhden-
tal correspondence carried between the two govern
ments should have been withdrawn from the regu-
lar correspondence laid the table Of the House.
because such withdrawal of the papers might well be JUS
titled by an honorable objection the part of the British
government to make OF private correspondence for
public purposes (Iear Previously to the late discus
sion en- tie documents which have been laid upon the
table had from authentic good reason to be-
leye that such private correspondence as the one am
now speaking of existed but le since government in
its discretion had not thought proper to produce such
that it would not be right or fair in me
to make my information public. (Rear) am now
about 10 refer to certain comments, and these of very
singular character which appeared in the Times newspa
per upon those documents; and must say in passing
that this is not the first time by many WITHIN the last
few months that the Times newspaper has protested to
have and has been proved to have been In the
Of secret and exclusive Information, which ought AMI
supposed to have been known only to the Cabinets
also to have possession and papers and docu
mens refused to both Houses of Parliament and to be
at liberty, and apparently authorized to make public
these documents previously refused to Parliament
itself. (Hear hear) The noble Earl (AbeIdeen) may
discaim he pleases any communication either direct
indirect with the Times newspaper, or that
he personally in any way communicated with that
journal; but all his disclaimer cannot persuade me-
any other human being believe, in the country that
the Times newspaper could convey such information
insert such article have just read to the House,
without being informed by person who had official
information these matters and who in conveying
such information to the Times newspaper betrayed that
which ought to be considered as Cabinet secret (Hear
article taken from the st. Petersburg Journal referred to
the correspondence carried on between the Emperor
Nicholas and the British government but in very differ
ent tones goes back TO speak Of former periods and
says
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the Emperor did entertain most ambitious views and e3
press himself most explicitly to government relative to
the dissolution of the Turkish empire The article then
Blu. yhs. answs. did get these Gysrtusss' What
So then, Il appears that the Times not only is ac-
quanted with the fact and the nature and character of
the communications which had been made by the En-.
goes to tell the nature and spirit of the answer
that was SENT
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a this Communication had been made in friendly spirit
in The affairs Of Turkey which must be productive Of great
How did the Times know anything about this, should
like to know The article then proceeds
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further on that pst Lord Lord John Ruse
Again, ask, how can any newspaper in this country
know what the particulars of confidential overture
made by foreign sovereign to certain members of the
British government how could the Times any other
paper, know what the confidential answer Of Lord
John Russell minister OF the crown, to such commu
nication' (Hear, hear) Or, how did such newspaper
come into possession Of documents Of confidential and
that the miner. had thought
mentS But is not to what has appeared in the Times
newspaper that wish to call the attention of your lord
ships but TO subject of much grave and serious
importance will assume that the Times Is well inform
ed with regard to the nature Of the communications and
the character Of the proposition of the Emperor of Rus
sa and will assume also, that the of the noble
lord referred to Is correcan assumption which have
the pleasure and the less hesitation in admitting
because such answer appears to to be very pro-
per one, and just such one as ought to DO made
lHear) But this is what require an explanation Of
the noble earl held the seals Of the Foreign Office after
wards full discussion takes place upon the question in
dispute between Russia and Turkey the official CORES
pondence 10 submitted TO both houses and Others who
have afforded 70 government every assistance that
could 10 prosecute this war-which believe might
have been avoided but which is nevitable-I and
others having been challenged by government to discuss
the blue books put into hands-after We had
mcnted upon them freely and temperatey stated where
it appeared to that the government entitled to
censure anmadverson (.hear," and laugh)-after>
we had pointed out that the had shut their
eyes to the dangers that imminent and impending
after government had bccn warned by the gathering Of
the forces Priucipalities the