Worcester daily spy. [volume] (Worcester [Mass.]) 1850-1888, 1854-11-18


after as saw the party, which was on We'd
nesday about O. clock, P. NJ.
Cross examined by Mr.. Foster.-Expected
riot on Monday from seeing rabble Of fana-
tics going down Front street. Saw DR.. Mar
tin going down there. He was in a chaise
with i. d. Stoddard, Esq. Saw S. S. Foster
at the depot. Did not see him till Igot there.
Did not hear the Marshal ask Mr.. Foster to
make a speech. Saw Mr.. Foster stand in
front of the closet door. Did not see him
push the crowd away very hard.
Hon. ]. S. c. Knowlton, Mayor of the city,
called.-NNas at this Court room on Monday,
30th of Oct, about five minutes. 1t was
about IL o'clock, A. NJ. Saw Mr.. Baker
standing by the Marshal's Office door, and
spoke to him. While talking with Mr.. Bak-
er, Mr.. Adm Thayer, l think, commenced
talking; but did not observe what he said,
as continued to listen to Mr.. Baker. Mr..
Hoar then spoke to me. There was large
number of persons present, but l did not OBJ
serve, particularly, who they were. Did rot
hear any outcries or EXPLANATIONS. L request
ed all the persons present to go outside of the
building. AS they did SO came into this
Court room and passed into the MarshaPs Ct
fee The people went out, Immediately,
most of them. heard no EXPLANATIONS while
was in the Marshal's office. l heard Mr..
Hoar talking to the people outside. He did so
by previous arrangement with myself. l OBJ
served no commotion or noise outside. said
to the people before they went out, Gentle
men, will you please to walk outside of the
building, Mr.. Hoar desires to talk with YOU"
Never saw Mr.. Foster to know him, until
Wednesday of this week. Saw Mr.. Rowland
on Monday Both ult., near the door of this
Court room. Saw no colored person that l
recognized After Mr.. Hoar, Butman, and
the crowd had passed down to the Union
Church, got into chaise and rode away. 1
heard some groans but heard no EXPLANATIONS
and saw no missiles thrown.
passed by the Temperance House twice,
between and O clock on Sunday evening /;
and was there again about u o clock, after be-
ing sent for. The night was very dark, and
it twas impossible to distinguish anybody, even
at a short distance. One man was introduced
to me by somebody did not know, by the
name of Mr.. Foster. There might have been
from 20 to 80 people present. l could not re-
| cognze the person called Mr.. Foster, by sight,
nor by the tone of his voice. l never heard
him speak before nor have l since. Recog-
nized none of the persons at that time who are
brought up here now, for examination. For
some time after I arrived at the American
House the people were standing on the side
walk talking. l stood apart some time, to see
if l could recognize any of the parties, and as
certain what they were doing. When l was
discovered l came upon the piazza of the
hotel, near to the front door, AS l stood there
the persons came forward, and two men came
to the door and rang the bell. They said they
were strangers from out of town and wanted
| to go into the house. told the persons as
sembled that they must go away, and not ring
| the bell, as complaints had been made that
the people in the house had been disturbed by
the ringing of the bell The person introduce
| ed as Mr.. Foster, then came forward and be-
! gan to converse about Constable Jackson. He
stated to me that Mr. ]. had acted through the
day, with Butman, in hunting up a fugitive
slave. l stated that had looked for Mr.. J.
in various places during the evening, until 1
found him. That Mr.. jackson had told me
that he had seen Butman only for few min
utes, and did not know what Butman's bust
ness was. also said that 1 had stated to Mr..
jackson, that the Fugitive Slave law was a
United States law that the government had
men and money enough to execute that law
that it was no part of city officers duty to
execute that law-and that no officer, while
serving under me, would be permitted to exc
| cute that law.
Mr.. Foster replied, that he dstrusted Jack
sons story-that he believed that Butman was
here to take fugitive slave->that he and his
friends did not intend to hurt anybody-but
that they would watch Butman. This con-
versation was before the Mayor went upon the
piazza.
After the two persons had rung the door
bell, told the people that the house must not
be disturbed, and that the door bell must not
be rung.
Cross examined by Mr. Hoar. Left about
| 30 people at the hotel, and two watchmen, to
see that there was no annoyance to the house.
Am not aware that anybody was terrified on
Sunday night. Perceived no disorderly indi-
cations on Monday, except some grooming
Did not anticipate any trouble, and was not
| alarmed.
| Cross examined by S. s. Foster. Did not
see any occasion for the exercise of magis-
terial authority while was at the American
House. Did not offer any objection to any
body remaining out all night, if he did SO
| peaceably.
Cross examined by Joseph A. Howland.-
The night was SO dark that could not rec
ognize the watchmen, except by their voices.
remarked, at the time that Mr.. Foster was
introduced to me, that l held a professional
kidnapper in as much detestation as any one
present.
George S. Hamilton, City Waterman, was
called. Was at the American House on Sun
day, from IL o'clock, p. M, to 3 a. M, on
Monday. 1t was SO very dark that | could
scarcely recognize person by the side of me.
Saw S. S. Foster and Adm Thayer there
There might have been fifty people present,