New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1854-03-09

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adopted tore more worthy If 'siS coaary .hsy would
"'' -sve hsen plaagsd ipto war nor sftsr. c1-efni
perusal 81 tie voumuous blue books lately issued hid
he f1urJ csuss to change hs opinions. Comparing ia
contents Of variogs dispatches on various siles. hs
sgu,d that tie Ministry had overlocked the most oh
yiogs facts hsd risuud, socd The mos. uauisissss
tendencies sid trusted 10 the mos. evidently iLaoioas
assurances Declafng thl, 1e tragedy o. Shape iu;
ptsclcd the honor of England and required ample
explaratioa, he drew evidence from tho Published
documents to show tbst the Aimirsls Of tie united
fleets might have prevented tAe catastrophe. that
o., Turks W themselves have sycrtei g. II Il hai no.
beeB COR the tmorus AMI vaclh'ifg Instructions sent
out bv tie 3 itsh govern n. tie Inferred i'or their
recent language thit they would still treat on the basis
OF the sieps QUO csis be'sn which presumed stop he
corder ned. BE cs'el upon 'he governueat t. :,
their duty r the certainly tn; the peoPl Of Eegana
would 20 'heirs.
SIR James G.sbam with lis no'oIioas eicouterS an
s~ered him that they must either put their colsieace
IN Ministers or turn ten ort Ba, mean While doa's
let "a potter over t're books They hsd been de-
ctiyed b Russia wlo was an old sal aithiul ally OF
Great Britain but dark malls nant suspicious did nos
easll take root in generous minds This oil fox.
Sir Robert pees dirty little tog" the murderer OF
HE Raulicras was quite char nrg with his generous
mind and his ,lowness 20 suspect
Ther cane Lord Jocclyn and Lord Dudley Stuart.
whose speeches flied the paoers the next day bus
cmrted tie house en- this evening. SIR ROobuek next
commenced by defending the ministers Tor their COO
duet in delicate stustiOn hut ended-y declaring that
il vas nov tune for the ministry to declare clearly hst
Nfs Intended 10 do Lord John Rpsse oa TIE plea OF
answering this question rose. save an Apologize reca-
piiulaton eli the history Of tho late differences aud
VI e1 be had convinced himself that thiswouli not do.
ieigned TO be willing to tel them what they intended
to DO" thing he himself may not have been quite
sure Of According to his statement they bad entered
into some yacuo sort of alliance With France not by
means of treaty concluded hutof notes inorchsnget
g'ard and France were nov proposing 30 Turkey
also soIt of treaty by yirtIe OF which the Ports
should not sue for pcsce without their consent They
had beer cruelty overcome by the incredible perdiy OF
the Car lie ,RusselN despaired Of peace being pre-
served They were likely to enter war lie con
sequent,y wanted somc E30O0O00 more than last year
Secrecy vas the condition of in aad there
fore he could tell them just what they were II
do in that war As the latter, theatrical part OF
bis speech was performed with great force and with
much moral Indignation at the Car the butcher the
applause was immense and tie House in their enthu-
astn were on the point of voting the estimates, when
Mr. Disrael nterceded and succeeded in adiourning
The discussion TO Monday evening.
The debates were resumed yesterday evening ana
only concluded al = O'clock, An
First rose Mr. Golden, promising to con6re himself
r'rictly to the practical question in hand lie took
great paios to prove from the blue books, what was
denied by nobody, that the French Government had
originated this melancholy dispute, by the mission
Of Mr.. Lavaete respecting the Holy Places and the
concessions it wruug from tie Porte. The French
President, who at that time had some expectation OF
becoming Emperor, might have had some wish to mako
little political capital by making these demands upon
Turkey On behalf Of the Latin Christians. Tho first
movement Of Russia therefore, was traceabe 60 tho
proceeding OF France, in this matter The nonsg-
nature Of the Yieuns note hal been the fault oi tho
allies. not Of the Turkish Government, because, If
had been threatened with Tho withdrawal OF the fee
from Eesika Bey the Porte would Immediately have
signed it, We were going to war because we insisted
upon Turkey refusing TO do that by noto 20 Russia
which intended TO ask her TO do for ourselves, VIZ
10 give 'anee for the better treatment OF TAO
Christians Tie gaet majority 0 the population IN tho
Ottoman Empire was looking with esgerness 20 tho
OF that ve,y policy which Russia was now pro
scouting Gas exemplhed IN Mado-Walacbia).
From the blue books themselves be could show that
the evils and expressions under which that Christian
population lived could not be Misunderstanding prD-
cipally TO dispatches Of Lord Clarendon, osensibly
written with the view to make out case or the Gar
In one of these dispatches Lord Clarendon writos
TIE Porte must decide between the maintenance OF
an erroneous religious principle and the o5s of the
sympathy and support of its allies" Mr. Cobden
was therefore enabled to ask Whether the House
did think it possible that population like the fanat
d" zeal Museunan population Of Turkey would abandon
3" its religion And without total abandonment OF the
law of the Koran il absolutely impossible to put
the Christians Of Turkey upon an equality with the
Turks" We may as well ask Mr. Golden, whether
with the existing State Church and laws of England,
il ia possible to put her working upon equality
with the Cobdens and the Bights Mr.. Golden pro-
ceeded then with view TO show from the letters OF
Lord Stratford de Radcliffe and the British Consular
agents that there reigns general dissatisfaction
through the Christian population in Turkey threaten
ing to end in a general insurrecton. Now, let us
again ask Mr. Golden whether there does not exist
general dissatisfaction with their governments and
their ruling classes among all peoples OF Europe,
which discomfort soon threatens to terminate with
general revolution If Germany, Italy, France or
even Great Britain had been invaded like Turkey, BY
a foreign army, hostile to their Governments and sp
pesng to their insurrect0Dary passions would any of
these countries have as long remained quiet as the
Christian population Of Turkey have donef
In entering npOn q war in defense Of Turkey, Mr..
Cobden concludes England would be- fighting for the dom
nation of the Ottoman population of Turkey and against
the interest of the great body OF the people OF that
country This is merely religious question between
the Russian army on the side and the Turkish on
the other The British interests were all on the SIDE
of Russia The extent Of their trade with Russia
enormous II the export trade to Russia amounted to
only G200C0C0, this was but the transitory result
ron Russia still aborng under the Pr0ectlonist delu
sion However their imports from Russia amounted to
fl3CO0000 With the exception OF the United States,
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