Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1854-06-24

Mr. HILLYER. / rise to q question Of order, and
place it upon ground which think Will be sustained ~
the Chair The gentleman from Vno mas .no 49,
make personal explanation, but hold that consen. does
give him the right to inteogae members aoous ne
House in relation controversy tne speech
Of brother member That does not come ~ Ing PR
yilege which has been extended to him by the House
ask that he NAV be confined to the privilege allowed him
by the House to make personal explanation:
The SPEAKER pro enspore inc Cnair WIZ state tnat
the House. by unanimous consent, gave the gentleman
from Ohio the privilege Of making personal explanation
and that he be the judge, to very great extent Of
what that explanation shall be-
Mr. TAYLOR, of Tennessee. Having been called upon
to state what is my recollection the point Of differ
ence between the gentleman from Ohio Slr CAMpBELLl
and my colleague from Tennessee Mr CHURcHwELL all
that it is necessary presume for me to say is that my
recollection of what occurred between my colleagues
(Messrs CHURcHwELL and CULLoM) on the occasion re-
ferred is precisely stated by my colleague, Mr.
CULLoM.) That is my recollection.
Mr.. CHURCHWELL. Now, hope the gentleman
from Ohio will ask the question Of my other col
league me, (r. SMITH) who was close by me when
/ made the remarks alluded to-
Mr. CAMPBELL Now, Mr.. Speaker, wish to bring
Mr.. CHURCHWELL. hope the gentleman will al
low my colleague (AIr. SMITH to make statement in
justice to
Mr.. CAMPBELL. Very well PROFOUND the question
to him yourself.
Mr.. GHURCHwELL No, sir; will not ask it, but
in justice to myself ask you, sir, to PROFOUND it.
Mr.. SEWARD. now renew my point of order. The
Mr.. CHURCHWELL. hope the gentleman win not
insist upon his objection until my colleague has made his
Mr.. CAMPBELL. I apprehend that the gentleman
from Georgia cannot prevent the statement from being
made.
The object of this discussion is evidently to arragn the
gentleman Tennessee upon the charge Of sehood
"A laugh
Several MEMBERS. "Oh, no."
Mr. CHJJRCHWEII. I do understand it.
Mr. CAMPBELL. Certainly have no such purpose
Mr.. SEWARD. WE'LL sir this is question in which
the gentleman from Tennessee IS only concerned want
to know how the gentleman from Ohio is personally in
terested in this matter?
euThe SPEAKER pro tsmpore The Chair overrules the
eston of order raised by the gentleman from Georgia
Mr.. SEWARD. Then appeal from the decision OF
the Chair.
The SPEAKER pro tsmpore. The House unanimously
permitted the gentleman from Ohio to make personal
explanation The gentleman from Georgia raises the
question of order that the gentleman from Ohio is not
conning himself to that explanation The Chair over
rules the question of order and from that decision the
gentleman from Georgia takes appeal. The question
now is Shall the decision Of the Chair stand as the
judgment of the House?"
Mr.. CHURCHWELL. 1 hope, in justice to myself
that the gentleman from Ohio may be allowed to pro-
ceed .t.
Mr.. SEWARD. At the suggestion of the gentleman
from Tennessee, (NIr CHURoHwELL,) will withdraw the
appeal.
Mr. CAMPBELL. / am very far from arragning the
gentleman from Tennessee the charge of falsehood.
wish that understood. What do undertake to say Is,
things printed in that speech which, whether
said not not true do not that the gentleman
from Tennessee has wfuy and deliberately uttered un-
truth but he has uttered what printed was uttered
an untrue statement of several things.
Mr.. CHURCHWELL. Point them out
Mr.. CAMPBELL. Whether they said or not the
allegations notcorrect The first that is untrue and
the gentleman will understand to the term in no
dsrespectul sense is that his colleague congratu
lated by my colleague, Mr.. GIDDINas.
Tho ChaSr bnEr inf
the gentleman must in his explanation, conhne himself
to the portions of the speech referring to himself
Mr.. CAMPBELL. So closely am associated in oil
these matters that cannot explain without referring to
them.
The gentleman is next mistaken as to the gentleman
from New York, (lr GERRIT SMITH and thirdly, as to
the charge that congratulated the gentleman colleague
(Mr CULLoM upon this floor, know that it is not cor
rect The gentleman will so recoec himself 1t is un
true and know it, and pronounce it, for the reason
which shall now proceed to give lpurposey ana stu
dously avoided turning my face to the gentleman when
he delivering his speech and purposey and stud-
ousy avoided going to him. shaking hands and congra
tulang him. the distinguished gentleman from South
Carolina (r. AIKEN) and others did did SO for the
reason that believed effort would be made in some
quarter another put these personal friends of mine
(Messrs. CULLoM, ETHERIDGE TAYLOR and BUGal in
false position at home Now, say, in the face of God
and the country, that the gentleman is mistaken when
he says in his speech that did go up and congratulate
his colleague
have but word more to say am actuated in this
Tennessee (Mr. CHURcHwELL,) for think that harsh
word has passed between since the commence
ment Of intercourse here did not rise because
felt that any injury done by CHASING me with the
distinguished gentlemen to my right Messrs GIDDINGs
and SMrTH) at oil for do not know but what they
have been in the right than have have never
acted with their party arose for the purpose OF cor
rectng this NATTER for the benefit Of the genemans col
leagues supposng that by Of the forged papers
which have been used heretofore to sgmaze me IN Ten
and the used to associate these gentlemen
with now their constituents might be led to indulge
in opinions in relation to their ana
their action here upon great national questions.
Mr. CHURCHWELL. ask but word in reply l
indeed thankful for the speech just closed by the hon.
orable gentleman from Ohio (r CAMPBELL.) The point
which he to make was that had said that the Abo-
tonsts and Freesoers had congratulated my colleague,
(Mr. CuLLoM y of such stamp Mr.. GIDDINGs, OF
Ohio, MIR. SMITH, of New York, and Mr.. CAMPBELL, OF
Ohio. The direct point which the honorable gentleman
makes is and he says he it in disrespect that
used his in connection with of such stamp as
GIDDNGs and SMITH as congratulatng my colleague.
have been informed by several gentlemen particularly by
my colleague, (Mr SMITH thatI made of the Ian
guage contained in the speech published by me- If
was then incorrect the gentleman from Tennessee MI
CULLoM) should have corrected me. There was crowd
of Northern Freesoiers around my colleague, (Mr CUL
LoM.) / may have been mistaken as to Mr.. CAMPBELL
being among them am not mistaken rs to the point OF
fact that he congratulated by Freesoers and Adolf
tionists.
There is one thing about which there is mistake
that the speech of my colleague contained sentiments
which made it popular at the North. find Abolition
upon the record list of those who subscribed for
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