New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1854-11-16

;n.teA and do Justice 10 Ourselves. think Sir, II
the Chairman Of this Commute ha- not vise Those
Gentlemen he has neglected hi. duty aud i be has
neglected hi duty, AN not willing that the Commit
tee should act eI longer for me at least.
The PREsIDIST-The Chairman Of that Committee
las beard ibe iGqsry, and have all the members Of
the Committee Have they any ansEer
Supervisor WILLIAAsOS-Tbe District Attorney i
one Of the gentlemen whom we have appointed 10
meet. He viii be here this afternoon at o'clock.
Supervisor MoTT-Mr President, ! suppose that
the Committee appointed to investigate ths .ae,ec,
will make whole complete, and fair inves.ig 1t'on
Of this matter Since the adjournment OF the Board
have devote portion Of my time-nct mncn OF II,
however 10 the iDvestig alton Of this ma'tsri h'vs
ct all events satisfied my self that II is very d'ncu,
question 10 decide IL is Of vast importance a
should be, if possible, correctly settled. an ~
aware that this question has ever been oei",s w
Board Of County CaDvassers here before ,.,o
may be csses of this hind, and II there nse -
DO doubt through the sistance Of counsel Ills
miitee will be able 10 obtain information re- =,
them Whether we adjourn and give tnsm nun
investigate, or whether we have the q,;ns .bo,t
gated before the whole Board are quss.u;1 ~
which there may be difference OF oPdh n,- tba
ore Sir I am perfec,ly willing 10 sat anu heii 'I
arguments Of able counsel on this mater - ~
this Board or ,hould be wiling una ."e me rast
themselves stould do so sCu ,no,. coosl., -
ot their investigation have me u."J -,
:; ~, Comr,ittee. I believe thst th"y VIZ IT,
na,t IN ma rotbing but what VIII seem 10 rleh
feos, inst and fair. The supervisor oi me Sihe-
teentb Ward (Herrickl mas nio'eu " nov va u a.
49, d;scbsyoed 40 that the whole question may De
I,e.ed before this Board. Sir, j Am opposed TO
,hst We have appointed COMMITTEE 70 lhVe5usae
~; s,,er ard n seems that they have partially 10
e.,gated H. but that the professors have employed
W. smell on this M alter one Of whom is the Dis
,,;ct Attorney. We may have counsel equally able
m ebIiphten thnt Committee. Now, sir let the Whole
inve te alton come before the COMMITTEE. That Com
miitee has already DECIDED that 1t SNAIL not De aioSe
before them, but any member Of this Board who DE-
fire 10 hear these arguments will also have the oppor
tunty But sir. let us not have the question taken
out OF the hands Of the Committee. Would IT ne right
10 tell the Committee that they have not Investigated
the Question properly and therefore you disch4rgei
them from the duties imposed upon them, intim4us
that they are unfit to discharge the ddty i'm
posed upon tbemi Sir, l am for the fau IN
yestiga,ion of this matter But, sir, j am for the
greatest possible liberty in these cases am tor de-
tecng fraud wherever it may apoea', and hold that
the ballot boxes should he not only legal and honest
but that we should be free TO discard fraud wherever
we zee it, and set our faces against IT, for II our sa'e
ty the safety Of our country and OF our institutions
rest apy~ here il is Sir in the ballot box These bal
lois should be put in there by Legitimate voters and
no other but when placed there, they shout be taken
out and canvased by honest Intelligent mes, wno WIZ
return the RESULT honestly an legally TO this Board
cases where there ha been fraud, let them be nves
gated by this Board if have power, If not let us
kpow who have the power, and then place such cases
in such position that they. can be Investigated by
come tribunal that has the jurisdiction 10 say that
there has been fraud committed at this election IS as
tuuipq more than would dare TO assert; but It Is
enough TO cay THAI the charge is made and therefore
il ought TO be investigated III II can be sust- med
10 mon should hoo his office il it has been obtained IL
lepnlIy Let us do our duty and let the City the State
and The world know that we are willing To meet the
whole qu siion of fraud when Is pres n'ed to u.s.
Supervisor CHAUYCEY-I expressed my view OF toe
question when il came up yesterday and II was my
motion that we should hear the opinion OF coun 81 on
l.1f &c both hot Stl
think that would have been wise course. But as
the affair il can perhaps come at the same re-
cults by another process. Members Of the Board that
choose 10 be here at the time the counsel appear be-
fore the Committee, or desire 10 have their friends
enlie htened the sui ct can avail themselves oil
the opportunity. ! shal be happy myself as one OF
the Committee, to see the whole Board present to
hear the investigation. l have no dogbt the earoed
council will bring the matter before us N position
that will enlighten where we need inform ,iion.
think this ought to have before the Board but still
think they will enhehen well If we hear them
they address, the Committee.
Supervisor KELLT-I agree with the gentleman on
my right, (Chauncey and hope that this Board will
Supervisor HERRrcK-I don't want this subject to
come TO the Board secondhand.
Supervisor CHAUScET-YOu should have supported
my motion yesterday.
Supervisor HERRicK-I don't think there is any Ne
cessiiy for committee now. | think If there have
been any Illegal votes polled we have got power
enough 10 detect tnen. III Mr. Darker Is Mayor l
think the law lays it down perfectly plain what our
duty is We disObey0g the law now. Instead
Of proceeding, as the Law says, with our canvass we
are going all round il. When these protests were
cened we appointed a committee to investigate the
question 10 iuIfdctlO1 in the matter, and the
committee il stead Of doing what they ins'ruc-
ted 10 do-go and consult counsel, they have mac Q
arrang emenis for a grand hearing Of argument. Nov
IL the committee had gone first and inquired OF Mr..
Dillon what was III cir duty, we should have been
in position TO 20 on with the canvass. lustead of
that they have not been near him. They
have not done their duty the duty commit
ted 10 them. Let do duty. Let
us 20 on with the canvass. Let begin with the re-
turn from the First Ward, and if anybody objects to
them, let hear counsel on toat point. | want this
committee 10 be dn charged. Let us have the matter
before us. There seems to be minority and ma
joriiy in this Board at one tune The minority have
10 part Of that committee. The committee is m ide
up Of all one political parya thing never heard of
before. No fair and honorable legislative body or
chairman ever appoints a committee altogether CON.
posed Of Wings of Democrats. But this is the
with the present instance. ii is one sided commit
tee, and this is why want TO have it discharged
Let us have the thing fair, honorable, aud above
ground. This committee is composed OF all honorable
men, but they all psrtsans have seen h,nOra-
bic do things for party effect that they would not
do otherwise. do great many thi0gs for party
would not do under other circumstances. / would
not have all Democrats on committee. If had
been in that chair l would not have appointed all
Democrats. Let us hear the able counsel on both
sides.
The PREsDrYr-The Superintenden, of the Nine
teenih Ward Herrick) should bear in his mind that
he himself moved to excuse the Supervisor from the
Twenty first Ward Mott from serving 90 the Com
mittee, and the Supervisor from the Twelfth Ward
(Wakemanl was substituted.
Supervisor WAKENAN-It seems to the gentle
man nom the Nineteenth Ward labors under a msap-
prthension to the powers Of this Committee lie
ought TO know that ii is inherent in that Committee
to hear counsel they choose they need not go to
consult any counsel at all. The resolution imposed
upon them the duty TO investigate as 10 whether We
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