The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-05-05

question Was turned over ~ the Sfnaie "a a. ~ .s
department. for Investigation viii vote 10 pay iust Z
much money a. me executive department viii recommend
and not one dollar We nov taking upon ogrs
selves precisely what the worst part of the sah,
which We turned over p the President Hs has made tt
investgataen and reported IL bat refuses 10 recommend
The ayeni Of certain claims The Senate are now asked
roI9ntsTiIy .,Til . PaF them cannot agree il
Mr.. SEBASTIAN desire correct tils senator IL !.
very Important part ef his statement The Fxetix 5
not refuse 70 entertain these claims He recommended ~
Rayeai Of every one which had been preented 70 him
The commissioners recommended and did certify To orta
expenses bur they left the expses Of ;e wftness
for e respondent defendant in te case and made no
70 lhe n their report and the consequence was
that there nothing before the department upon which
~ could ACT and the matter has never been before III n
was introduced 10 the committee, and Ne have thought
proper 70 make provision for the appropriation Of S0 10
cover the expenses Of witnesses on behalf Of
Coy. Ramsay. The amount considered 10 he AMPLY
sufficient and the commiiiee think thai ii ouoht 10 ~ s
think IT bstie in this matter that shoald follow the
suggestion OF the senator from Virginia This il tx las,
o. the items Of expenditure arising from that
We had better make the appropriation and with
the senator most heartily that should hereafter refuse
any such investigations By Senate but think
as NE have ordered this Investigation and has been had
IN good aih as Just and necessary have been in
Cured il is best insist upon TOO close an adherence
TO the rules Of the Senate which would the effect "a
ohs cas- @ witnesses ana paying all the others
Mr. SEBASTIAN. There is other amendment which
have 70 offer under the direction Of the committee bat
wish before doing TO obtain infora ion from the
department in regard 70 it shall not therefore offer
any more AZ present chairman of the There
wiz offer on the authority of the committee
Mr. To0MBS am instructed by the Committee ON
Indian Affairs 10 offer the following amendment:
Z. And H fvser enacted Tha, the sum Of Ssso
ooo much thereof may be necessary be- and The
same hereby appropriated 70 entitled
the authority Of the Of the act making appro
priaon for the current and contingent expenses Of
diridua their heirs and asgns whose names are set
forth in the of said commissioner transmitted Con-
Greek Indiana excepting those whose claims have been here
iofore paid by the United States. -79s9 M
Mr. HUNTER AT the last session Of Congress this as
decided 10 be private claim an old claim for suo
lations by the Creeks in 1896 and 1897
Mr. TOOMBS- do NOT know anything Of the decision
referred To- but think show upon the senator's o
principles sneh decision made wrong II
is the class the that
the Senate whether within their rles
submit to the Senate that the amendment within the
rule for two In the first place IL is certainly
within the principle Of the words Of the intercourse act az
1884 by which the United States guaranteed to pay claim
ants who had been injured by Indian solation and 10
ultimately indemnify them against all such losses In the
second place the Congress 1881 passed an act DIRECTING
the President TO appoint commissioners send to the
country 10 take testimony the Of the claims
which they did and subsequently that report came to Con-
gress Now The Committee Finance unless they have
the exclusive right Of violating the Of the Senate
hare put IN the bill amendment meeting beyond
this principle and assuredly covering IL On their
recommendation the following amendment was made 70
the bill:
For payment Of balance found Greek Indians f
losses sustained during the with Great Britain by that
portion Of the tribe who friendly and operated
The sch q August. 1857, s7ss To-"
Now unless the show that the friendly In
diAus IN the Of 1912 entitled greater privileges
under the order Of this government than those Of h
low-czens who guaranteed payment for losses on
account Of Indian depredatons certainly he eStorsd
from ohecting this amendment becausr in his opinion
il violates rule Of the Senate The csuse which have
read is amendment Of the Committee Finance They
have made three four Of the con-
elusive and direct upon point without sny law and
Nx .s
the government That amendment which the Senate has
put this bi the recommendation Of the Committee
or Finance covers all this ground and besides
But say that il being within tpe intercourse act of
l83s IL has been the uniform rule Of the government 70
make annual approximations whenever they necessary
for the purpose Of wing for those spoatons II you
ct to IL because il is private claim the ground tbn
money win be paid 10 indviduals the objections
be made the appropriations in your civil and dplo
matte appropriation bin They are paad TO somebody
but under this general of ls34snd but one
Of class commencing in 1870 to for sca,ions
made annual appropriations wherever has been
brought the pr--iden, Of United States
where there was money due under tbs, se which
titled -An act 20 regulate trade and intercourse with the
Indian tribes and 70 preserve peace the fron To
settle this point of order win read the seventeenth section
Of the act: ~ 2 a#4 aa.e
Src. II. A@d further erected That IL any Indian
Isdsn belonging 70 any tribe in amity with the United
States shall within the Indian country take destroy
% from the indian ooun,ry INTO sny stsse Or Te-,ory 10
hsbi,e6 by citizens United stae- and take
Z IL
onr.ar 70 .ny citizen or inhssssn of the United st.,e.
such c,tEen nhststant his representative, attorney
make application 20 the proper superin~ndeni
sub agent ubo upon beng furnished with the
cc-ary documents and proo shx under the direction Of
ah aid aa o sa s .s ls 'i' r oa o. @ =
and such nxton tribe shah neglect refuse make
a reasonable ceding
IL shall be the duty al such supernfe~den agent, swb
agent make return of his dongs 10 the Coas-nner ~
be proper the opinion Of President obtain
faction for the rjury. asE ts.a
The President brought tis suijecf before Congress and
upon his rccompendatiou hcy atbored him TO appoint
three commissioners ascertain the damages in more
formal way really than ordinarily Their the act goes
And IN the mean time. In respect 10 the property %
taken, stolen destroyed the United States guaranty
the party njured eventual indemnibestion-"
apsndRtorv cf various the purpose
cling in iTs0-Congress uniformly whenever these spoi.
tons existed have put " N. regular appropriation bills
appropriations Cor their payment; therefore say this
dstn uisshe from any class ~ private clsinss II is 70
carry out an existing law and s appropriate sum
s1eced and asceTtsncd under the law Commissioners
appointed by the President under the provisions ~
Of s3s expressly for the purpose q investigating
the claims The clsrns have tsn pszri by he Scusss
ONCE before bnre member oft 81 NV seuiors
here ~iH recoIeef certainly The senator from
Virginia l. stopped BY the amendment 70 which have
referred from ong this unless he show that te
friendly Indians who injured NV the hostile Indians
and 20 compensate whom hcund no law but
under the Vrerl principles ~ eqntv they having appealed
10 the rntes ases for payment to he Nvors
casv IN legislative halls than slow-rifiyens
who were robbed and plunds-ed BY tbesr nsisns
refrsn for the present from going into the lust ~
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