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HoRXTIo SEYMOUR.
TELEGRAPHIC.
The Final Defeat or the BAH.
SPECIAL ooRRnsPoHDRsox or THE Ngw YORK HERALD
ALBANY April l, 1864.
The Senate this morning proceeded with cousdsra
ton of the bill for the suppression of ntemperance
the question being ''Sha the bill pass notwithstand
ing the objections Of the Governor" The vote was ayes H.
Is. So the bill s lost twothirds of the Senators
present not voting in favor of it.
INTENSE RxcrTEMENr IN THE sENATE-rHE Gov
ERNORs AEsSAGE-SPIRITED DEBATE-THE AS
sEABLY Observation-Disclosures or TRINITY
CHURCH, ETC.
ALBANY, March 81, 1884.
There exciting times in the Senate in 1851, when
the dozen Senators resigned to prevent the passage Of the
Canal BILL There highly interesting about
the time Senator Beekman put his foot upon the aspira
tions of Ex-Governor Fish. There animatng and
interesting periods whom the Of the session
Of 1872 openly discussed, but neither on those
casions produced any excitement within hundred per
cent approximating to that experienced in the Senat
chamber this morning Before the hour arrived for
mencing business large numbers Of spectators ha
gathered in the chamber Lieut. Gov Church called to
order, the prayer was made the journal read and
petitions presented While standing and select
committees reporting bills, the confusion became
great and the loud talk SO ntolerabe that Senator
Barr compelled to rise and call the attention of the
Chair to & fact that impossible to hear anything
read at the Clerks desk and rather than continue in
this manner to do business he moved to take recess
until four O'Clock Mr. Bishop also stated that was
impossible for him to hear word consequence of the
continual buzzng about the chamber The Chair ordered
the officers to preserve order; when after few mo.
nnts Mr. Rarr Wit ia
Lieutenant Governor Church called Mr. Dickinson to the
chair, who in few moments vacated it. and installed
Mr.. Monroe When the Senate arrived at the order of
business or announcing messages from the Governor)
Mr. Monroe announced from the Executive Chamber
The Clerk commenced reading, and it Immediately
discovered that 1t his Excelencys message vetong
the Maine Liquor BILL BY this time the had spread
in every direction and the Senate chamber became
crowded to its utmost limit with anxious spectators
listening to the Governors for Withholding his
signature. The document quite lengthy, and occu-
pied the Clerk threeQuarers of hour in reading it,
The crowded audience, though jammed closer than in
mass meeting, listened throughout with silent attention.
and every one caught eagerly every word uttered from
the lips of the Clerk.
The moment the message received Mr.. Bishop and
Mr. T. Clark both rose simultaneously, the former to
offer resolution that the Senate do now proceed to re-
consider the Temperance b Notwithstanding the veto
from the Governorthe latter that the subject laid
on the table and the message be printed Mr. Bishops
motion being entertained by the chair (Mr Monroe,)
Mr. Clark moved to lay it on the table. Here spirited
and somewhat excited discussion ensued Mr. B. contend
ing that became necessary, in conforming with the
provisions Of the constitution that the Senate should
proceed to reconsider its action upon the Temperance
bill Mr.. Spencer supported the motion made by Mr..
Clark Mr. Brooks inquired-are not required to
proceed to reconsider the vote last given the bi
How the matter be disposed Of IL the Senate can
that future day shall proceed to reconsi-
der? This body must proceed now as the constitution
provides
Mr.. DICKINSON moved to lay the whole subject on the
table.
Mr. CROSBY thought the Senate only paused for FIVE
minutes to reconsider, without concluding the subject
could be postponed to any other time the Senate may
Mr.. CLARK thought it premature to enter into dis
cussion upOn reconsidering before the message was
printed and tables According to all parliamenta
~ proceedings twas competent to postpone the subject
until we have had an opportunity to examine the docu
Mr. Baor believed that il the senate des ed to pa,s
must proceed to reconsidcr at once but he nss NOT
anxious TO yoie npoa it at present. 1t is however
cessary to offer the resolution upon the coming in Of the
message, but majority may say when vote shall be
taken.
Mr. HorKNs-The Senate has already conformed to the
constitution, far it has gone. resolution has
been offered that proceed reconsider and that is
sufficient compliance.
Mr. BRADFORD inquired what was meant by reconsider
aton?'
Mr. PUTNAM also wanted to know what was meant by
Mr. BARR replied that by it was intended to get the bill
again properly before the Senate
Mr. CROSBY rose to point of order, in that Mr. Bish
ops resolution was out of order
The CHAIR (Mr. Monroe decided il to be In order.
Mr.. Crosby appealed from the decision.
The CHAIR repeated his decision, and fortified his posi-
ton by referring to precedents.
Here the constitutional points elaborately dis
cussed by Messrs CROSBY HOPKINS BISHOP PUTNAM and
others and thereappeared much difficulty in ascertain
ing whether reconsider placed in the constitution,
meant voting or discussion.
Mr. DICKINSON here moved TO lay the question the
appeal on the table
iIr. HorKISs-what will be the effect?
The CHAIR answering, said it would have the effect of
laying the whole subject on the table.
Mr. WM CIARK-And the subject can never be called up
again.
The question was then taken, and Mr. Dickinson mo
Ayes-Mesrs. Barr, Bradford Brooks Butts NJ H. Clark
Clark Dickinson Dorrsnce Field Hitchcock Hopkins,
Nay.-Bsrnsrd, Bishop, W. Clark. Crosby. Danforth,
Mr.. BARR moved reconsideration Of this vote.
Mr.. BROOKS moved to lay that motion the table, and
called for the ayes and noes
Mr.. ROBERTSON moved TO adiourn-lost 10 to is.
The CHAIR then stated that Mr. Barr's motion in
order but not debatable and Mr. Brooks motion not in
Mr. BROOKS appealed from this decsion-subscquen
Withdrawn.
info med them that debate out of order.
Mr.. DIcKINsoN-l want to say one word and he con.
tnued for FIVE minutes during which time he stated that
the person who had been all winter anxious than
any one else for the passage Of the Temperance b
the chief constitutional adviser Of his Exceency in
vetoing it.
Though name was mentioned the audience well
knew the alluson made to Edward {. relavsn who
the first person who carried the out OF the
ecutve chamber yesterday that veto would aAe place
Mr., ROBERTSON again moved To adjourn.
Mr. CRosBY said the motion could not be entertained
as motion Of that kind had just been lost.
The CHAIR decided the motion 10 order, when the
Senate at one o'clock agreed to adjourn by the follow
ing vote
son Ierrsncs Field Htehcock Hopkins. Hatthius Law.
SIM Pratt Putnam Robertson sherrili, Walker, whit
81. Nays-Me.,r, Barnard Barr, Brook, " II CLARK ".
storing, Wstkins-l2.
The members deserted the House during the excite.
mont in the Senate 70 such extent that Mr. Peters
thought proper 10 call OF the House, which
seconded and the doors closed spectators turned
out and the SergeanatArms despatched to the Senate
Chamber Congress Hall and other places in search of
absentees An hours time thus consumed when busi.
resumed.
communication received from the yestry, church
wardens and vestrymen Of Trinity Church. in to
resolution o the Assembly asking for adetaed state
ment Of the number of lots Of land where situated II
under lease, when the leases expire annual rents End
income Of all their property and also the amount of debt
owing by such vestry and when such debt Is payable
The document s quite lengthy occupying twenty eight
manuscript I rather from IL -