New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1854-05-04

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'"'le'' 10 Sued 'se FRANKLIN PIERCE
Mr.. FOOT moved that il be entered on the joausl
printed and laid on the table. Agreed. 49,
Mr. HUNTER moved that ten thousand adtiaoal
copies be printed. -,
Mr. TOOMBS hoped the motion would be adopted.
Mr. Brown said il was immateria to HIM whether tvo
or twenty thousand were prined but whle the messap
going forth to the people 1t vas but JUST 10 ,hos W
had voted for the bill that OF their views should ~
90 out. The bill not a one IL the country
was discussed III ISL and passed the House by large ~
jority Subsequently like bill passed the senate bye
Mr. Borland and Mr. Soule who were regarded a. str9
cosruCtonists, and were gentlemen who had III speco
manner received favor of the President by appoinense
foreign Missions At this session the bill passed the tou1o
by large maority-nearly 10 one-and received IL
votes Of the members who strict constructonns
good Democrats and who tatered in supporiingW
defending the Constitution. II passed the Senate bye
vote of twenty to twelve The President was doubles
right in refusing 20 sign bill 10 which he had consnu
iional obecons but il was also right that those who he
voted for the bill should state their reasons for their coarse
and the country ought 10 hear and weigh the conSae
lions and the arguments both sides before coming oa
Judgment. Though not prepared now IL argue aas
rnr like this vet many arguments made by the ins
dent he had heard before and they were not new 10 h
He then referred 10 the many grants by congress e
school purposes colleges universities, railroads canaA
etc etc and cOntondod that all these were "a much u
constitutional as the present BILL ii the ground asunedg
the President was correct =, A..
Mr. FOOT followed in earnest vindiceiion OF the bih
He regretted the for many reasons, but particularly
because would hazard il not defeat the passage OF ne
great and benefccnt measure lie had heIru WIN ~
hin was before the House when passed that body and
to this time that would be vetoed; but he had never %
leyod the President would disclose his purposes TO hose
busy tae-bearng rumorcirculang and inventng lnai'
yduals-teegraphc and wrlingcorespondents wne
live move and have their being in the smiles oil eAecunvo
favor For once the ten thousand lying tongues OF umN
have spc ken the trlth What was doubt ana uncerahy
Yesterday Is to-day historic truth. The bill was yeoed
Two grounds inoxpcdoncy and unc0nsttutohan'yi no
thought that though considerations OF expedency Oh
ton did exclusively belong 10 Congress sun the sns
be left there with propreiy and safety 90 ~
similar grants of land mentioned in the Mesage-o mo
esob universities construct roads canals rain'ni .nS
ship canal AT ST. Marys River, aud many JIM "a
all of which had received the sanction OF ~ ,he Sta,an
sixty years. There one hundred ao' ahiecs h
hook Granting landsro the States for spe.n al haa.
was singular that the si act OF TINS k ali tho STATS
vetoed was the first which gave lana ioshn,ion n
IN somotIny like an equitable and just dsuio y, -
This bill be Unconstitutional, then no ~" ,sttntiopsI
anv state for any specific object wou " haute nowsr
NJ Cons,;tu,io,, cayc Congress full ana hpsouS iI ~,
rug Iic Lands Congress shall have power 70 az
nose Of and make all needful rules ana ~ in;,J $40
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ius wy r The words of the Constitution Ihat they gava
nc mower to Congress to dispose OF the puOic iads 10
man could doubt. This provision was 80 clear nat 10
nan outside of lunac ASYLUM could have any diculy
in nttrpreiing IT, lie argued The subject for considers
BILE time conending that the bill was just, wise, humane
Mr. HUNTER said this not the proper time TO dis
cuss the merits of the bill At the proper time for the aus
cusson the friends OF the administration would be prepares
TO defend the President and his message Ii they should
fail TO do The fault would not be with the President "
his message but with them The President deserved me
hanks of the people of the United States for arrestng thu
measure which he rejoced 10 say, had no precedent
the past and which if enacted now. would be the Tore
runner of many evils lie who protected the barrier
placed by the Constitution between the powers oil the Hsn
oral and the rights of the States deserved the
Highest concentrations and thanks OF the nation' hwm
only in the preservation Of that baer-an aosract one
might be-that experiment OF self ovenment could b
happily ard successfully carried The tendency Of tho
times the pressing danger of the day, was, that IN oui
rapid pursuit of wealth the barriers of the Constituting
mny be oYefs,epped and the limits II has placed upon IN
powers Of the General Government overlooked and for
gotten lie rejoiced that here in the presence Of the Sen
ate he could express his heartfelt thanks to the Presided
for arresng this IL would bring the public mind
TO the consideration of this subject Of public lands. We
are TO have contest on principle whether the pnb
lie lands are be given away to be held for lh
common benefit of the whole nation.
MIR. TO0MBS desired TO return his thanks to the Pres
dent for yelono the measure This action Of the Presen
held out some hope that the reckless and ex'rav' an
Course @,ey pursued with respect to s public land
would be checked and that hereaf,r we NAV expee Ms
the administration OF the pplc lands will be put ON hi
same solid constitutional principle.
Mr. BUTLER said that he knew Of no bill of any degree
Of importance which had passed the Senate with less
sideration debate than this returned by th
President. He approved of the veto
Mr.. DIXON followed, saying he could see no cons;u
tional objection to this bill.
Mr. BELL desired the Senators who approved this mes
sage, and who reoced in the hope that the administration
Of public lands hereafter TO be placed on the sam
sound, constitutional principle, state and explain wher
that principle differed from the policy heretofore pursued
He nothing in this bill different in principle from n'
many acts making grants of lands for various objects y
great had been the OF land granted by Conge
flat the revenue from it has but barely paid It's ofi8na
cost and the expenses of survey, &c. ~
Mr. DOUGLAS defended the grants made 10 "es'er
States for railroad purposes, showing that by grants 70 ~
Illinois road land sold by the United STATES y
and unsalable at any price The western men asked !:
no gronts Of land for their State for any purpose when
not within the principle recognized by the messas
on the table lie argued against the bill. Ii To pa
the General Government in the situation of taking
ore class Of INDECENT persons in the States and adopt
would lead to many encroachmens upon State authoil
Mr. JONES Tenn Are you not in favor Of giving Z
lands TO the landloss--the Homestead bill
Mr. DOUGLAs-I do not wish TO be drawn from
syy, ment against one bill by question to how sh
I "4se another.
Mr.. yoNEs-The Senator maintains that /, Is rasons
tutionsl to give lands to the insane. How then
support bill giving lands those wf6 are not inssns7
Mr. DOuGLAS-When that bill comes up win
PREPARED and willing to express myself upon i. -