The national era. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1847-1860, 1854-08-31

Mr.. NORRIS. / think can inform my
friend from Indiana how the matter stands.
The Senator from Massachusetts, proposed 10
introduce bill, on notice given. raised the
question that il could not be introduced, with
out leave Of the Senate, if there was objection.
Mr.. SUMNER. Do understand the Sena-
tor to say without notice given asked leave
TO introduce the bill, in pursuance of notice.
Mr.. NORRIS. The Senator from Massa-
chusetts have already stated, offered his bill
agreeably to previous notice.
Mr.. SUMNER. Precisely.
Mr.. NORRIS. The question was then raised,
whether it could be received if there was OBJ
lection. The question arose. whether leave
should be granted to the Senator from Massa-
chusetts to introduce the bill.
Mr.. SUMNER. That is the first question.
Mir. NORRIS. The Senator from Massa-
chusetts upon the question of granting leave,
undertook to address the Senate. He was then
called to order by my friend from Californis,
for discussing that question. The Chair sus-
tanned che objection Of the Senator from Cali
fornis. From the decision of the Chair the
Senator from Massachusetts, took an appeal !;
and that is where the question now stands, I'M
less the Senator from Louisiana had right 10
make the motion which he did make, which
was to ley the appeal on the table
The PRESIDING OFFICER The question
is, unless the Senator from Louisiana viii dis
embarrsss the Chair by withdrawing it on the
motion of the Senator from Louisiana, to lay
the appeal on the table.
Mr.. SUMNER. On that motion ask for
the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
Mr.. FOOT. On what motion have the yeas
and nays been ordered?
IT, DID CCJDTNC OEETCEp n, tha mn
ton of the Senator from Louisiana.
Mr.. WALKER. | wish TO know, before
voting what will be the effect of q vote given
in the affirmative on this motion. Will it carry
the bill and the whole subject on the table
Mr.. FOOT. An affirmative vote carries the
whole measure on the table.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Yes, sir; if
the motion to lay on the table be agreed to, it
carries the bill with it.
SEVERAL SENATORS. No, no.
Mr. BENJAMIN. The question is, whether,
on the motion for leave to introduce the bill,
there shall be debate! The Chair has decided
that there shall be no debate. Those who vote
"yean on my motion to lay the appeal Of the
Senator from Massachusetts on the table, will
vote that there is to be no debate upon the
permission to offer the bill and then the ques-
ton will be taken upon granting leave.
Mr.. WALKER. The Chair decides differ
emily. The Chair decides, if | understand, that
it win carry the bill on the table. Then, how
can we ever reach the question of leave, when
objection is msdei
Mr. WELLER | object to this discussion.
The Chair will decide that question, when it
arises. 1t does not arise now. | insist that the
Secretary shall go on and call the roll.
Mr.. WALKER. Suppose some of US object
to it?
Mr.. WELLER. Then object to your dis
Guessing it.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair,
on reflection, thinks that the motion, if agreed
TO, would not have q further effect than to bring
up the question of granting leave.
Mr.. BRIGHT. / desire to understand the
Chair. do not wish to insist on any thing that
is not right, or that is not within the rules.
That, insist upon having. The honorable
Senator from Louisiana is right in his conclu-
sions as to his motion, provided he had right
to make that motion; but doubt whether he
had right to make that motion while the mo-
ton Of the honorable Senator from New Hamp-
shire ives pending do not wish, however, to
consume the time of the Senate. If the effect
of the decision of the Cha5e is to bring us back
to the question as to whe her we shall receive
the bill or not, | will yielC the floor.
II.
Mr. BRIGHT Very we'll
Mr. SUMNER. Before the vote is taken, al
low me to read few words from the rules and
orders and from Jsferson's Manual.
zone days notice, at least, shall be given of
an intended motion for leave TO bring in biiln
That is the 25sh rule Of the Senate; and then
TO that rnle, in the publication which | now
hold in my hand, is appended, from Jetferson's
Manual the following decisive language:
"When member desires to bring in bill
on any subject, he states to the House, in gen.
eral terms, the causes for doing it and con-
cludes for leave to bring in bill, entitled, Sc.
Leave being given on the question, commit
tee is appointed to prepare and bring IN the
billn
Now, would simply observe that my pur-
pose was merely to make statement
MIR. BENJAMIN. call to order.
Tho PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sens-
tor had presented his bill, and was debating
it afterwards The question is on the motion
of the Senator from louisiana to lay the ap-
peal on the table; and on that the yeas and
nays have been ordered.
The question, being taken By yeas and nays,
resulted as follows:
YEAs-Messrs Adams, Atchisen, Bell, Ben
jamin, Brodhead, Brown, Butler, Cas-, Clay,
Cooper, Dawson, Dodge of lowe, Evans, Fitz-
patrick, Geyer, Gwin, Johnson, Jones of Iowa,
Jones of Tennessee Mallory, Mason, Morton,
Norris, Pearce, Petit, Pratt, Rusk, Sebastian,
Slidell, Stuart Thompson of Kentucky Thorn
son of New Jersey, Toombs, Toucey, and Vel
ler-35.
NAYs-Messrs. Chase, Fessenden, Fish, Foot
Gillette, Rockwell, Seward, Sumner, Wade,
and Walker-10.
So the appeal was ordered to lie en- tbs
table
Ths PRESIDING OFFICER. The que.-
ton now is on granting leave to introduce the
bill
Mr.. SUMNER. On that question ask for
the yeas and nays.
The question, being taken by yeas and nays
upon granting leave to INTRODUCES the bill, re-
sulted-yeas 10, nays 35, as follows:
YEAs-Mescrs. Chase, Dodge OF Wisconsin,
Fessenden, Foot, Gillette, Rockwell, Seward,
Sumner, Wade, and Walker-1o.
NAYs--Messrs Adams, Atchison, Bell, Ben
iamin, Bright Brodhesd, Brown, Butler, Cass,
Clay, Cooper Dawson, Evans, Fitzpatrick,
Geyer, GwiD, Johnson, Jones of Iowa, jones
of Tennessee, Mallory, Mason Morton, Nor
ris, Pearce, Petit Pratt, Rusk, Sebastian, Sill
dell, Stuart, Thompson Of Kentucky, Thorn
son of New Jersey, Toombs, Toucey and We'll
ler-35.
So the Senate refused to grant leave to In
troduce the bill.
"a married lady, said to be daughter of
the eccentric Congressman, and well-known
Abolitionist from New York, Gerrit Smith,
made her appearance in Hegerstown one even
ing last week, attired in full Bloomer cos
tune, and Attracted some attention"