The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-10-21
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him .hc foIi shad es-risses TO- the COP mon Cousci
whss does the learned sG'f He oej,ats 10 the
question. sno Will rot a,l'~ h. ~i'eess 20 scs~er ~
We ohjtc'ea 70 the natter Of tho gas contract beng
time with Irrelevant matter But ~e do not ooject 70
bear whether trnsp ever said ANYTHING agsiass aasf
No they ~'n't ash that We are preosr,a 20 SAY tuss
Erftp pressed bit Sganst Mr. BAR unta sbe
time Ia question AID TIA he would have doae so
then II Barr ba, rot Offered biasea IS candidate Tor
public office. W. exrect, gent eneu 70 Grove all THIS
II do sh III y"a for tn1 en-. re s;dutta or
the defendant The otner side have asked for vindic
tho eois.qaencss may he fstal. Yoar verdict
i pesiance 20 the community, for It wilt ops
rae In af toe fy0u hs. FAY hal \ candidate for
pub q oscs toes cot him. eli Z, chi 4, sm have
for The consequen,ss II under eli the ci stances
az cassIoking 10 ali it, aspect, and at tho
character Of the meeti - you ind that Erben did
no. hirg more han you woui have cone you must &C
quiz h,m. II has eeen aid hat ~s b ought mr. Barr
into tie court tn dav What truth rhee 10 thiss Did
Rot h.> cons,itaents think hip propr reoesentAive
their distncY 10 ne 10. succeed IN bi ee ,t.ons
What inju v, hen, has NJ beo done hius MT Barr
bss ip'o court frs or bill ~ costs aud second
~ 10 ssrg- amount OF camsss in orr or that hs may
pay large fee to bis counsel He come iuto co~rt
with ali the sriae o. 10 be to ed pows
Unless the court rue out testimony, homas Barr
he csne in. We're there 'toisg es sgsinst him. his
r.fufal TO let his Alderman answer the question
Ipt 10 Inn woulo EMIT the defendant to verdict Of
&C auitsi
DEFENDANTS EvI0FNcy.
| AroIew wsrn.r examined by Mr. Whiting, depcsed:-
1rSsice n this city.
Q Were you r,seu, at Investigation before the
Record. on she 9th II july 1882
/ a. wss eseni curing he wnois Ct the asestgs-
ton. and u II 70 place ,ha. day, nrst haze been
te,e; -enewser teing present wusc George J. 5nith
md .iexapdsr N snsi;a sere examined before the
Q Have ia yoar possession any o-isna, papers
signed by rhems
a. lave.
Q WIN you produce fhsuS
(whnesS bee produced tso paper,) Bo.h papers
were sworn 20 and signed IN p'esencef Mr. iiou was
Mr whl'rg-I p,opos. rov to put there PAGERS 10
x1,.. ..fsa Of ~
t xlsssrdr Smith h. A''' q 's'S0 S'"''A ana
bis Eonor-Fo' shat purpose?
hr. WhtiogT, sfoS that rumor EXISTED at the time
az inst The lance Of b ~
BIZ Bracy-ln tho proceeding before the Recorder, It
SEEM ,nas son George s%sn ana hsSaueer y
was also witness want yonr Hoco IS ruling the
point whether 4 should . 'ri.d on common
Il lcbjsct 20 all eyiosnc- on this 6urJect
/ Nj Wbitipg-We propose ~ shoT that by common
public IumCr VI Barr was corsnpt nan
lis Htnor-It is IRE uDivcrsal law OF all countries
that pm c rumor cannot DO Introduced evidence for
the d.. trce
mir WnrDg-I admit the rule to be a proper oue as
between citizen and ci.a bu shsn the character Of
pubic cers IS spoken Of lastnce to the law may be
is Honos-Juases have no power to slter the law
snd the l,w distinctly ia that public rumor is not evil
| dence.
and have known him for several wears; have known
isa - member o. the copm s c,un w.. V. p,
amined bsioEe ire Recorder?
objected TO BY Ar whiting and objection over
i
| A. csnrot say whether Mr. Barr was examined as
wtre but he made adldivit; wi tnesses we're ex
suineo on tie Psrt Of Mr. Barr dom think that any
csrnsti"u Of tie case w5s made then; merely took
the depo iiions all the d.p tioos records
in the hauos Of he Re .orcer; MIR Blon Mr.. willing
end Nr rofn' q ted az counsel; have seea Sir NJ
ben once twice there; he csne about some papers
which bad been est, before Graud Jury of which he
| O. Who isquests' 3lr. Frben to attend?
A don', know; it's my impression tina. called
him in e't renee 10 some Lost papers
ke-axsmiDed.-Q Can how times Mr..
Ffep vas al he proceedings going on b,ore the Re
ccrfers
A cannot say that he WAS an attendant there; he
was no. there IN connection With NJ B.r.'s case
Wee you AZ the meeting at Bsach's house IN Oct0-
| Der, 1887
4 Iwssas meeting there about that time; think
Mr. Warral was chsirmon Of the meeting did not pre-
O. Did you hear wha. was said by Mr. EIben on that
A. co OF remember what was aaia very aistnouyt
thiul be sid seine hiae aa:u' sti avis md check;
ab n sr Barr GO no.Iscoliect that Mr Erben
| on that CASTOR.
| Q Were the gentlemen there BY invitation;
rpes- here from eighteen to twenty Ave per
| lot feIie7e that SIR North gas .hsrs
Nah W"slai, eSam'no' BY sr @hitins-1 was chat
nan Of the mes,ias = = Beanhs house shea Mr.
went here by invitation; 1t was r.. Beaca's private
! iouse; head *, Etrep's
Q Were nc esptemeD az tho time dis.ussi sing tie
merits az carcids'et for flee
A. The tuhjec. uncer discussion when Mr. Frben ma.e
tie s'a;eIstnt seaisst Dir Bser Mas o. establishing
@ vtIo he character and qu. fcsticps Of Mr. Barr
| surj.c. Of discossiorf
@ 10 ION Ismtm:er the names Of persons present as
| this ms,tgS
were principally resae DTS OF the ward cannot
| Isccleet the words us@d by Eroen in his address,
ind.oss for money to give away police aopoiatmsats
that he knew the fact aud was atisesd Of its truth
Q Iid re ssy how tie came to know the fac'ss
/ csp't say that be did; but be said that
thing had come before hum as foreman Of the Grand
O Had you yourse done any thing towards communi.
cat the fact Of the charge sgsinst Mr. Barr to Mr.
| Frrenf
| NJ. Brady objected. 1hs party defendant, he saa,
may plead justification, and he also mitigat
ing bat mitig ,tin astepcss cannot
be ct'ved In evdence uarss they are emooaod in
answer
BIS Honorary the change in the lay party now, If
he fsi' In bis proof Of Justification, may fall back mi
! tigatDg circumstances.
| 0bjsc'i n oyerrp)ed.
winess-I COMMUNICATED this kno rledge to Mr. Erbcn
viii he vas on tt q Grand Jury told him that
! informed that slee Barr had received money for
pohc" sp oantmenrs; I,old HIM from wnou received
the ipfoJmaroD in tie address made by Mr. Erben be-
fore the comm ittse certain that he made Of
| iDprf per laDguge
O Did Re use any words like the se-u See what
| pse,ty oamn'd rascal you have for alderman"
| Not in my bearing
| Cresstxsmnea BY MI Brady-r do not resolect the
month in which VT. frben was foreman Of tho Grand
Jury the meeting at Mr. Besch's house WAS held
in DC cb~r; sua ! think he vas foremsn two or
| three mobths previous George smith was the
psrscn from whom I received this inforuation
| about Mr. Barr; II was souo weehs befors that,
eaS Mt. Saith at the meeting In Octobar did not
inov Thai Messrs o. smith ant George srnith bad
btsp exsmreo before recnrder I'LL i'm preston Is
that Mr. hrben in his speech, said he Anew Of cheek
DIN. ~ nosr N. rsa's fs.lrss Nc tTesn Fe7sner
ne could proSs cnsrgs ag-iust Bsrrj think Mr.
rben sao At the rs. documen's could be producsd
IN tui port Of he aecasanor; my inpre.s Is toat
ben said that Barr hal sold the appointment for
| from S. TO Sibo.
a At that drst nuseting I'D anybody else speak Of
Mr.. Barr except Mr. Erb-ps
doo' remember hat they did; my impression l.
thet Mr. Erten said that Mr. Barr Of the cor
rppt mem b. rs Of the Common Coun ell.
Re exs min cd
Q ia YOU ever sss that check' Glowing cheeky
A have lns II
DO you thinh 1t 10 the same you saw
a. Yes
Q When Mr. F,ben spoke ATM Beachs house did he