The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-05-04

states under the United States
From 18th July TIL LIST day Of October 1853 81 days,
stationery, Ae., at 81 per day IL $3.50 90
Services Of Lafayette Emmett ESQ.,, attorney gem
eral of Minnesota, called by the commissioners TO
represent the government % per day iso ~
For services OF William b. Dodd esd deputy sst
&c. I.- loo 90
Services. Of Robert A. Smith, for copying records
10 j. NJ. Stone, for services as notary public, in
personal attendance, swearing witnesses during - a.
l,4le 90
certify that the above account just as allowed by the
W. A. GORMAN.
Mr. HUNTER believe that it is right to pay officer
beraly for services which he discharges under his apponi
ment but 1t seems that it is improper to be heaping
upon one officer empoynents and couments IN this way
II the resolution Of the Senate required the 70
ecnte these duties suppose he would be entitled TO some
additional compensation should like to know who esti-
for this amwhether the amount is allowed al the
department whether it is mere charge made by Gov
Mr.. SEBASTIAN. The President Of the United States
in carrying out the resolution Of the Senate confelrcd tss
authority to make this investigation Governor Cor
man ho she and IS now the superintendent of In
dian affairs In tas Territory and Judge Young He as
socated them together for the purpose Of carrying on that
Investigations Now, wherever allow en,olunlents 70
commissioner of this sort ii is at the rate of eight dollars
day think that analogy preserved for the rates of
compensation to all persons acting commissioners for
the government That compensation has been paid by the
resolution Of the Senate to Judge Young and expressly
promised in the letter Of appointment to that gentleman
shorter period Of time and asks for exactly the com
pensaton per day whilst he engaged in what he
tends and think very properly to have been an extra Of
fetal duysomethns not contemplated, and certainly be-
yond the sphere of his ordinary official duties His busl-
governor Of the Territory and superintendent OF
Indian affairs does necessarily impose him, by
virtue of those Offices he duty of performing extra official
labor a commissioner of the United States to investigate
charges of misconduct against any officer think there
FORE if this compensation is not allowed by law is proper
that should allow il by this appropriation The ques-
ton whether he allowed by the existing laws for extra
official services not question which am not able to
decide probably he is not but the effect of the appropra
ton the Senate agree to it. will be to make him this al
iowance and it is for that purpose we have offered the
Mr. HUNTER | can only say that think it would es-
tabsh exceedingly bad precedent to allow governors OF
Territories to receive additional offices and emoumens
II supposed that the outes imposed upon them In ela-
ton to the Territories themselves and the supernendency
Of Indian affairs fully occupy their time think sir that
when such inquiries these proposed such appoint
ments be made it win be better employ persons
who not engaged in another capacity in the service OF
the United States.
Mr. BADGER hope the honorable chairman of the
Committee on Finance will withdraw his objection to this
appropriation This gentleman, holding particular ohee
called upon by the joint action may say of the Sen
and of the President TO institute inquiry in its ma
judicial troublesome vexatous having connexion
whatever with the appropriate duties of his office He was
asked do it by the President lie was directed to
do it by the President And this has been done in
Consequence Of the Senate having refused to institute
the nyesgaon and having turned over to the execu-
tive branch Of the government the most proper place IN
which the investigation should be carried on do think
he ought be paid for those services They had
nexon in the world in my opinion with the office which
he held will stand by my friend from Virginia, as he
knows in resisting all improper charges against the treas
ury but think he ought not to resist this
Mr.. DAWSON. As understand the matter, Governor
Ramsay in Office governor of Minnesota and super
ntendent OF Indian affairs in that Territory and
ceeded by Governor German An Investigation was ins-
ued into the conduct of Governor Ramsay governor
and superintendent of Indian affairs in that Territory
Now the question raised by my friend from Virginia. as
understand it is this whether il part Of the duty
pf i'm
Gov Ramsay ascertain the state and condition OF the
affairs in relation to the supernendency prior to his go-
ing in? 1t is whether the very object of his appoin
not to carry these unfinished affairs and that
they had been correctly administered before2 Now as
understand it Governor German was in office when this
Nr SEBASTIAN VIII the senator from Georgia allow
to correct misapprehension into which think he has
fallen
Mr. DAWSON Certainly; | wish to know the facts.
Mr.. SEBASTIAN Governor German succeeded Gov
Ramsay with the change of administrator but was not
the duty Of the OF Governor Ramsay TO settle
with him Governor Ramsay has settled with the depart
Probably funds left in his possession were or
dered to be turned TO his successors but the charges
in relation official misconduct brought against Governor
Ramsay did not originate with Governor German on the
contrary those charges preferred before he was APP
pointed They were referred the Committee Indian
Affairs Of the Senate who took the matter into consdera
ton and finding that they incompetent to carry on
investigation here into case the facts of which could
be collected only in Minnesota they asked to be discharged
and discharged, by resolution in this body from
the further consideration of the subject they reported
resolution which adopted, asking the President OF the
United States to cause the official conduct Of Governor
Ramsay be investigated, in such manner as he might
see proper and report Of the proceedings to be
made TO the Senate Under this resolution of the Senate
the President Of the United States appointed Judge Young
and Governor German commissioners. Under that APP
ponent this duty discharged and these expenses in
Cured
Mr. DAWSON Then, Governor German superin-
tenden Of Indian affairs when the investigation took
place.
Mr. SEBASTIAN. Certainly.
Mr. DAWSON And il was in the discharge OF his duty
governor and superintendent Of Indian affairs inqurng
into the previous conduct OF his predecessor
Mr. SEBASTIAN I beg the senator to allow me TO
correct him This investigation WAS not made by Gov
German In his character Of supcrntend
ent but II under special appointment by the Pres
dent Of the United States commissioner for that purpose
alone BY virtue of a resolution OF the Senate.
Mr.. DAWSON My idea is that when be was appointed
of Indian affairs IL his duty TO assume
the position of his predecessor and to examine whether his
predecessor had been guilty of error or improprey
The very object of sending him there to discharge that
duty He sent there ut salary OF $4,000 year and
vet you propose give him eight dollars day for nves
gang the very business in regard which he was appon
ed superintendent by the government Now 1t Is said he
appointed In distinct character commissioner sep
from his gubernaorsI and experimenting character
giving him third appointment What was the object OF
the third appontment2 To inquire into the very duties
incumbent him governor and superintendent and as
agent Of the what his predecessor had
done II his duty to correct any errors OF which ms
predecessor might have been guilty in the discharge OF his
Office have no particular objection to paying Governor
German, but like principles adhered TO in these
matters. Ft RI
Mr.. SHIELDS. Will the honorable senator permit me
to correct him pon2 The resolution OF the Senate
directed the President TO appoint commissioners to make
hic iuyp iUntin Tho prrqi1c