The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-04-06

csses Too where The disability 10 incurred bs be soldier
whr The line oil bis duty Bind ars3 saDe aaa
vast variety OF other dsxbiiiiies may come upoa
person, and really caused dlsoxsss wnlch sxise
aud had heir ofgB while The ndvdsxl the dis
charge OF hss duty the OF has country Still,
from the want OF that evidence which The Law and he
rules under thai law prescribe sometimes found m-
possahe establish the ixct BY such evidence ID 10
Necessary 10 prodace IN such Impossible 10
trace back erers 10 c19ses II may be ffar, MsirfoFe,
indeed have doubt that il hsithe CommlsssonsI
has been exceedingly rgd The snorcsneai of the rules
lad down But ihGk the from llllE11s ccEn-
plans hafsEs and 1njasy--nof inenI0ns ., prrhais-
bal rh ccDpxaas wsou, just pfOvo1Aiau6 of lbs aa
nnisiafion OF the Pension Bureau hen The lime
he tells as THAI frauds have bess Committed upon that
bureau which 10 te real ic the exercise o the
fsiss 50 Flgidiy they exercised some cases
Now few words IN relation To tie iast pruvision OF
THIS secsioas relating ic those pensioners who bold oice
under The government think that provision shosia be
retained with amendment. Bu ii amendment be
made IL. then shall certainly strke As
the provision now rasds The pensions OF all persons who
bod onces. sre 10 be stopped without reference 10 the
xnoans ra SALARIES pad iacH Nov. thlnk hx poyson
as 70 Dc apYsssd only tho~r yessnns Secsvnx ssis
nes cxcecdlng 81 zoo per but do not Apply a. 10
those persons Tor instance, gho hold small and ineror
Offices anser the government because such appiiea-
ton would be very hard and unjust have my mind
Individual who disch tges well and faithfully the
duties assigned 10 him uncer The government for winch
he receives small compen salon, and should be un-
willing 70 see him turned out Of HAT Dtiicr, be de-
priyed OF has pension, when | know, and everybody
lie discharges duleS well
here are great many cases Of thai SORT
Mr.. HUNTER Very well; propose such amend
men,, and VII agree 10 il,
MIR. HAMLlN. would therefore move 10 amend the
last clause Of this by inserting after the word
" Office, ia the twenty-hh line, the words exceeding
81 200 per aanum; !" so that it will then read:
And prOpidsd, trshsr, Thar II any person entied to
Invalid pension sha be n the possession OF saiaried
civil office exceeding 81 200 per ~ his pension shall
be suspended dnrng the me 81 his employment Ia said
civil Office"
Mr.. HUNTER. | viii agree 10 that, and hope il viii
The PRESIDING OFFICER. (Mr. NoRHrs in the
chair.) There is already amendment 10 an amenc-
men pending al this une and therefore additional
amendment would not now be in order.
Mr.. HAMLIN Then give notice that l shall move
The amendment haze indicated al The proper time.
Mr.. SHIELDS. wish 10 say a lew words IN reply 10
what understood the honorable from Virginia
MI HuNTKRl 10 say lew moments ago.
MIR. MASON. As il is not probable that the discus
son upon thus bill viii close to-day hope the honor
able IRON Illinois will consent give way TO
motion g 20 into executive session.
Mr.. SHIELDS cannot do 30, ior ] wish 10 reply 10
the hoaoiabe senator from Virginia MIR. HusTERl al
ths time ! understood that senator 10 siy-and, as
thought, with kind of sneer-thai assumed TO know
everything about the pension laws, while thought The
Committee on Pensions knew nothing about them.
Mf. HUNTER | made of sneer regard 10
the honorable inferred from hat he SAID that
be considered that the Secretary Of The Interior the Com
mlise on PENSIONS and the Finance Commttee had BAT
confused notions upon this subject, and be would set
them night
Mr.. SHIELDS AS | happened to diseT with the con-
mitIee, and The Secretary OF the INTERIOR and the Com
missioner Of Pensions OF could not say that they
were right When attempts to oppose anythss
Of this Kind be cannot admit or say II 10 right AMI
continue 10 oppose H. vii that my peculiar
fortune misfortune, whichever may be termed TO be
apphed 10 originally 10 get these invalid pensions al
most feel Thai KIND Of general agent here for
that purpose have more OF this business OF examln-
ing and preparing OF this kind than want TO do
ba am applied 10 IN great many cases, and have bad
occasion TO learn more concerning these matters han
e1z.S rfBa h.
take Interest tts matter than otherwise would
and thai The reason, Also why satisfied that the
Secretary and The Commissioner have failed 10 prescribe
proper mode 10 remedy thr evil which they set forth,
sad which admit does exist 10 some extent That is the
reason Of the difference between us
The honorable senator says do regard this matter
in The proper light; he says consider Il question oil
money, instead OF question oi morals Now, may be
question Of morals the honorable senator and my
self But think that 70 the poor pensioner il is ques
ton Of money, for affects his pension. We may talk
about morals, but he will think Of his Little pension
thinking about the pensioner and his pension an
thinking neither OF the morale oi The money far
ths case y concerned but OF The pensoner and he pen
sloner alone
II is stated By the bureauand TO some extent viii ad-
mt the saiemeliiha there are often peperaied frauds
IN The procurement OF pensions The fault lies not 10
the lave, for the laws correct, bui If the admin
strson Of those laws And when state that there
frauds IN the administration u the pension laws, will
thereby say that tie Commissioner oou-ns the
trauts They no Gomn5ted BY HIM, but upon hIm,
OF testimony, fAHe kyiGeEce false ceFun-
Gates thai is the way these ifssds committed, not
from any fault Of the COMMISSIONER because he allows
the Opportunity but because be imposed upon Ard
vii stale further, and venture 10 say thai the Commission
VIII bear ou IN he statement that where frauds
perpetrzed The testimony i Of the most conclusive kind
AT cases oi frauds iae testimony TIE evidence The GER
uhcsies are al perfectly made ont al the ceremonies
properly pefiome5 tho papers aIe al brought up 70 the
required mark, and The Commissioner acts upon he
any other Commissioner would Afterwards be finds
oul that be has granted pens5as upon fraudulent ee-
Gates Now does be propose . remedy them Way, By
ealing ~ at the pensioners N the Uned States, from
Maine % Caornla. inciaslEe brIn-ng them up every
Two yess a. you Eoala bing ID nany horses, 70 be
examined By tw0 sur2tons, Ia order 20 hnd out where
ssys have 1een committed IN cE cases proposes 10
brng NJ AL The old Of tse UNITED States every
two years. have their bodies examined by two surgeoa-
make them urRE forward then sfhdsFs and oe-hcaies,
and unless those adavE md cercs correspond
aey with those brought forward 10 obtain The Ienon IN
the first place, the pension either 70 be mOdIhed
changed, stopped entirely THIS i 10 be done every
two years; tins Is The remedy proposed By his amend
msnt
Now, say the proposed remedy Is an improper one
There must b. devised some other way get these
frauds Whers fr2udnieni discovered 10 erst,
upon tbose bui DO every years call mp
al your pensioners be examined and have certificates
Of such examinations, IN order detect those frsuds
And will state farther that my opinion that should
afiemps the carrying 81 INTO execution. TIE result will
be thai will stnse from your penson roll only the
o FoHr poor honest pensioners, while the fraud
ulent wril be lett upon H. And Why Because
they viii DO they dd 10 tie nrsi piacehsve their
tincses and zfdsvis properly made ouf and TO-
for sil be as easy fcr them 70 do the
the Others vas the poor, honest bu ignorant soldier
ao has wuuadef and 6tsehax n~hnrx 49, h.f.