Lynchburg daily Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1852-1861, 1854-07-01

bill.
If any thing be could say could induce the re-
personalities Of the people to think on this sub
ject. he should consider il of the most glori-
Gus days of his political life. aud should reiolee
in the circumstance which brought him here this
day, to plead the privileges of the people aud the
constitution--to plead for the only thing which,
| being lost, there nothing IN the constitution
worth preserving. The contest Of 1910, between
| Charles /. and the British Parliament. which
| brought on the overthrow of the monarchy, vas
| the identical cause which nog lave before u
Mr. Benton referred 10 treaties IN former DAYS
TO show the action of the House on such sub
| iects contending that when treaty acts an nut
ters within the legis alive power of the House,
! that very moment the right of the House Mt.
taches. aud which has the authority. and IT be-
| comes its duty to examine into all the eifeum-
! stances and consider the expedieney or inexpe-
: dioncy of the treaty itself. precisely the pub
lie good requires. The less power the President
and Senate have and the moro power the people
have, the better, Jefferson thought for the gov
eminent and the people. The message Of the
President, lately communicated, preeludes the
House from the power oi acting ON the treaty.
The message wns nothing IN the world but de
mand for check for Sl000d. D0O, aud that On
brief notice and without any days of grace. Give
me the money by to morrow This is like the
highwayman's command-stand aud deliver The
President says he must have tie money soon.
without giving Ms reason ar reasons. We are
10 60 it Blind, aud do whnt he culls ns to do,
because he suvs it Is necessary. Mr.. Benton
considered this high invasion Of the privileges
of the House. The President first undertakes 10
negotiate treaty without consulting the House
as to the burdens 10 he imposed on tie people,
aud having done this. 10 deprive them Of the pow
er Of saying yea OF nay rs 10 the admission ot
new states, he sends here treaty. ~ such treaty
as it is. II gives $4,000 00O Tor mere selYedte
of territory. Robert j. Walker has just inform ID
the world that before he heard Of the Gadsden
treaty, he paid only 50 $40 for the privilege oi
making railroad through Chihuahua and Sono-
ra, while we are 10 ply sl0,000.0o0, II would
be a curse to rs 10 have such territory.
A man resided on a poor piece Of ground;
friend who stayed all night with him, next day
seeing him looking on the poverty stricken eonn.
trythpught he could define whai was IN his mind.
But the proprietor snd, nm not 50 poor rs You
think | am don't own all this poor land
(Lnughter) Aud this Is whnt we may say 81
that God -stricken country through which the
treaty proposes that the railroad sha pass Kit
Carson says n wolf cannot mike his meat there,
(Laughtcr) The report - that this Is n militia
~ speculation by what they call the scientific
corps. II must be West Point science, for who
else could think of putting national railroad
outside of the country to which il belongs, 50 rs
to require any army to protccttl Putting it out
side of the T. States 50 that the enemy may cut
IT up when he plcases. daughter
As to the Mesilla Valley. TINT question was dc
cidcd under President lfillmore's administrations.
He then commented ON several points in the new
treaty, saying: BY il are 10 gel rid of the O.
eyenth article of the treaty of Guadalupe llidal-
90, but we are not bound Ia pay one farthing nn-
der that. When he was n the Senute he voted
to strike il out, because he ioresaw it would give
rise TO quarrcls he had no idea, however, TINT
a t. 4 -.
We were only To use force, if necessary to pre-
vent Indian incursions from our own side OF the
line. lie was against giving SlO,OO0OO0 for
route for railroad outside of the United States
and against involving ourselves with private
railroad speculntions.
Mr.. Campbell raised n question OF order. Mr.
Jones, of Tenn, could not move to strike out
the cnacting clause of the bill aud during the
debate on this point several gentlemen argued n
if IA snap Judgment WIS To be taken on the opPo
nents of the measure, a. in the case of the Ne
braska Kansas bill. The point was Withdrawn
with notice that il should be renewed in cnse OF
necessity.
Mr. BOylv remarked, when he obtained the
iluul he felt like the nucii nj navigator crying cut
"lto',a but what WIS his surprise when he
thought lac was ia light 81 land. he was met by
some small obstoc es IN hs palh, includ ny thu
point of order. The gentleman from Missouri
referred to England aud Prince and 10 the pruc
tico of other powers ON the continent of Europe,
relative 10 ireaty making.
The gentleman, however, with all his learning
and intelligence, had fallen into ~ al ineonsiStea
cies He said the English crown ever undertakes
To burden the people without consulting the com
mons-and So as TO France The gentleman
would recollect the treaty which Mr.. Rlves ne
gotlated with France, where the crown agreed 10
pay this government certain moneys without
consulting the Chamber OF deputies jackson
made point with the French government, and
on that occasion he Ind no ADLER defender than the
/ gentleman from Missouri. TINT the Chamber Of
/ Deputies was bound To make the appropriations
! though II was moi consulted IN advance. Yet the
! gentleman comes here, and in the fnlness of the
! information which he possesses, tells that appro-
! prutons are made in advance of the execution
! of treaties.
Mr. Bayly referred to aud answered other
parts of MIR, Benton's speech. lie ventured TO
! say Jefferson never thought an appropriation by
Congress enlarged his powers under the Const-
tuition to treat for the acquisition of Louisiana.
He,thought that within the sphere of their res
! pectlve orbits, each department of this govern
ment can act without reference to the other
| Congress has the power To withhold appropria-
tons. As to whether it shall be done depends ON
circumstances. When treaty has been made
by the President anl two-thirds of the Senate,
the appropriation ought not TO be withheld ex-
cept in case of palpahe and traitorous disregard
of the rights of the nation. This brought him to
the inquiry whether this treaty wns in su II pal
pabe derogation of the rights of this nation, that
losing sight of all Difference TO the treaty -makng
power the money Leeessary TO carry it out
should be withheld.
What difference, he asked, was there in asking
money in advance, or NJ the conclusion of trea
ty! Was not the effect the same The appro-