The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-04-17

hand and that therefore was that the Eng
lsh goyeDment should agree with him TO what to
be done in such case The which Secretary
Of state for Foreign Affairs to that overture is be-
fore the world (hear hear and u.s. in substance that
We would be no parties to any projects Of the kind i'm
piled (Iiear, hear) During the time that correspond
taking place there being symptoms this and
other countries that mems minds were rather running
in that drecton-that the dissolution of the Turkish
empire was at hand took occasion in this House Ia de-
clare in concert with my noble friend the member for
Maryebone, that to such partition of Turkey as that
Which might be imagined by those who shared in
other partition England would be party Hear
hear) So too, my noble friend Lord Clarendon who
succeeded me in the Office which he holds with SO
much ability (hear, hear in reply 10 what looked al
together like oer Of part of the territory of Turkey
for ourselves, upon certain terms, answered in the
most decided language that our policy was to man-
integrity, and not to be sharers in her spos (Cheers
1t may be that the Emperor Of Russia from his observa
ton of Turkey had arrived at opinion that the fall of
that empire could not De prevented and that it was ad
yisabe in order to prevent wa that some arrangement
Powers Of Europe That may have been his Impression
but rather think the natural impression the point is
that which Sir Hamilton Seymour evidently derived from
appeared so convinced that edu of Turkey ,cas al hand
he had IN contemplation that The fau Of Turkey should
the real meaning of the Emperor Of Russia in
his conversations and otherwise her Maesys govern
ment had hoped that when England entirely refused to
be party to any such projects they would be reln-
pushed by Russia and that Russia would calmly calcu
late the consequences of having all Europe opposed
her in she should proceed to armed aggression.
Iear, hear) will again turn to the mission of
Prince Menschikof. The Prince ended with demands
relating to the privileges and immunities of the
Christians in Turkey. The Turkish minister, being
alarmed, had to the ministers Of the four
Powers of Constantnople for their advice. Lord
Stratford disposed to agree with the Turkish minis
ter that the demands of Russia dangerous to the
independence of Turkey but the four representatives
came to the decision that it was question which SO
nearly touched the free action and dignity of the Porte
that it would not be proper for them in their then sua
ton, TO offer any advice on the subject When this deci
declared that the Porte had already to decision,
that the decision adverse to the demands of Rus
STA Prince Menschikof having, have said pronounced
these threats Of calamies which would follow the reec
ton of his erms-threas totally inconsistent with the
language which had been held to her Maestys govern
mony, to leave Constantnope and to return home At
this juncure her Majestys government thinking that
Porte directed her Maesy's feet then at Malta to pro-
coed to the neghborhood of Constannople ambassa
arise, to order the feet up to Constantinople This
was step which afforded tho clearest proof Of the
desire Of her Majesty to preserve the naepenaence Of
Sultan, and which maintained the integrity and indie
pendence of his domnions the feet could have returned
but while demands were insisted upon which Turkey
could not accept and while there q menace that
these terms should be enforced by arms II impos
sbe for her Majesty and for the Emperor of the French
in concert with whom we were acting withdraw their
support the Sultan. lay all the more stress upon
this point because was at the time matter Of inquiry
did not partcpate-that there would be sudden inva
sion the part Of Russia upon Constantnople; but it
was clear tho House approved the demonstration which
was then made approved the declaration which at the
time made-that her Majesty was determined to sup
port the Sultan against unjust aggression (Cheers)
When Intelligence arrived at ST. Petersburg that the
last demand Of Prince Mcnschikof had been refused it
was decided there that messenger should be sent,
conveying letter from Count Nesselrode demanding
in the most perempory terms that Prince Menschikos
note should be signed within eight days and announcing
that in default Of such signature the Principalities
Of tha Su1fa
sian troops 1t quite impossible for the Sultan con-
sstently with honor TO consent to such terms and the
menaced invasion by Russian troops Immediately took
place. It became question what tho Sultan should do
under these circumstances Lord Stratford whom |
have described the best and truest friend Of the
Porte hear hear advised the Sultan not to exercise
his right of making this proceeding cdsus bellt but
recommended him instead to renew negotiations in the
in The meantime to strengthen those forces by and
land which during peace had been greatly neglected.
well greatly diminished. That advice was taken by
the Porte and it in conformity with the opinion
of all tie four Powers-France, Austria, Prussia and
England Fresh negotiations accordingly took place. the
sultan offered with the advice Of his ministers fresh
terms of peace These terms arrived at Vienna at the
moment when note had been agreed to BY the
representatives of the four Powers there The Sui
tans terms therefore, for the moment set aside
and the other proposals transmitted to Constannope
To these proposals the Sultan agreed with modid
cato Ms going to enter into the merits Of the
Vienna note but what is perfectly pain-what by any
one who fairly reads IT. VIII be admitted at once IS that
respects in its wording by the Porteconceded to
the Emperor of Russia security he could reasona
bly, wish forthe privileges and immunities OF the Chris
tim subjects of the Porte Hesr hear The Sultan
unmpaired and inyioate the privileges and immunties
Of his Christian subjects He stated that he ready
to make this declaration in note to the minister of the
ON of
have hngedwas that, according TO the proposal Of
Sultan the Christian subjects Of the Porte would
enjoyed all these privileges and immunes, and have
enjoyed them under the sanction Of solemn document
confirmed by the Sultan their sovereign under the
sanction of his declaration that it due to his
honor to preserve them-under the sanction Of an
assurance given to all the Ave Powers of Europe
to Russia no less though more, than to the
other Powers. (Hear hear) The Russian proposal,
the contrary was not to increase the privileges and
immunes of the Christian subjects Of the Porte-whch
privileges and immunities may remark, had not been
diminished but had been increased by the Porte of late
years-but that all these privileges and immunities
should be confirmed by a special treaty with Russia so
framed that Russia would have OCCASION in every cues
mot merely Of but at h to ast
CIear hear) Therefore the question was not, the
Russian government put it. desire on the part Of Rus
STA protect the Christians of his community in the
Sultan's dominions--,hat not the question-that
security offered, that security was amply offered
but the question was whether the sovereignty of those
100000 people should he transferred from their
sovereign to foreign sovereign, with oyerbearng de-
mands, and overwhelming armies to enforce those de-
mands (Hcar hear) The position which her Majestys
government took at that time stated clearly in the
circular which Lord Clarendon, the 18th Of June I'D
of the few documents which shall take the liberty of
reading to the House. The following the terms of
the extract, which shall read,-
Tho repeated assurances Of the Russian government given
both the OF her Majesty and to the French
that Prince Menscbkof mission to CONSTANT
had reference solely to the Holy Places had led her
Mesys government confidently 70 hope that the satisfae
Of that long pending question would have
removed all grounds Of difference between Russia and the
Porte But under the plea Of confirming ancient treaties
further put forward by the Russian ambas
sador involving protectorate Of The Greek church in Tur
key only arded the spiritual but also the civil
rights and mmuncs Of its members Every concession
ment who throughout these trying negotiations displayed
moderate and catory spirit but IL would have
beOn impossible them have complied with these last
demands without dsrosatn from the rights Of the
virtually the independence Of the
Ottoman empire; and her Majesty's government have,
entirely approved the advice given by Lord STRAIT
ford de the Porto In these and opinions
there complets agreement between her Msesys gov
the French government and tho English and
which have been ordered to approach the OAR
dae will act in concert under the orders o. the respec-
tive OF the two countries In taking this step
her actuated solely by the desire
to the Independence of the Turkish empirean ndo
viii ii the great Powers arc deeply in
Unfolding and which has been Acknowledged by them
neeossary tho balance Of in Europe tCheers)
Such the position taken by the English and French