The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-10-08

= what chair do you hold ir that esn~gss A, hcl
| @. Were you in court At tie time Dr. UM or n,
Quacsenbos gave evidences on the subjscs u the
suppssOs @ M iustsumsn. a ths loa l N,
sword cane had been inserted in the body eight line
inches in the beck, after It had been insrssd, il Il
evidence Of It at the orifce of the woundS
Wtness-Io you mean il the point Of the ius.-amen.
haa oe.n MoIAeo up and down In the Inside OF tue chest
MI. Nhitipg-l mean the instrument had been
turned up and down.
4. Il would be apt to confuse the lips Of tins wound
Would such confusion be visible TO the eye OF tie
surgeon oondus,irg post mortem examination A. II
would be apt to create sort Of echymoss-that is In
efuscn OF blood underneath the lips Of the wound That
would be the natural consequence Of such wound
y Would that appearance be easily detected by the
exam ,nng swseons should think 1t would sir; it
wound.
Suppose the external wound to bs perfectly smooth
m'Ie with any accuracy whether the Instrument had
been turned in ia body after it had beeu insereds or
ment exactly, would that give you such eyidsn.e or
which You could determine accurately IS a surgeon
whether or not ths instrument had besn turned altar it
was eIted in the bodyy A. The inferencs would be
that the instrument wss not turned.
q r uh,s save the evidence ~ found on examining
the dy slight attraction the corner of the left eve
cIe just the left eyebrow, punctursd wound on
the lick FIVE irehes to the left Of the spinal column
vi N eBtrr between the mir tn and tenth ribs
nowsds ard forwards into the substance OF tho lungs
the csviy of the chest filed with large amount of
New With this mt bsfore ycu supposing the in
str,nent TO have been straight when it cred the
ooy would you be ab asa surgeon to account for its
present crook ed postens
The District Attoney thought this was a mechanical
question, but he would not object to it
The question was repeated in the following forYn:-
q supposing that instrument to have inflicted the
wound here described and suppospg the also
to have been drawn from the body you account for
the yreseDt crooked condition of the trument9 A.
should think it might be accounted for in certain
diions Of the parties.
Please state in VIII conditions A 7 aho,id tl;,,.
that II the party nficng the wound in front of
the party struck that in pulling the weapon out of the
tbs weapon had not been well tempered, this does
not appear to have been.
conclusions A. think that the rib acted as fulcrum
and tie hand acted the power and the structure of
the interior Of the chest acting the resisting point
this would then become lever of the first class and the
fulcrum would produce this curve the fulcYum being
the ninth rib the lower margin of the ninth rib
Q What would the point of the instrument come in
contsct withf A. 1t would in contact with the
tissue in front of the chest with tbh tissue of the
lungs.
If it came in contact with the tissue Of tho lungs
what effect would it produce upon it A. 1t would Ia
cerate the tissue.
G. Would the tissue Of the lung itself be sufficient to
resist the drawing OF the instrument with sufficient
force to produce that curves A. In state Of vitality
think II would.
9 wou,d it lacerste the lung badly A. 1t would be
Q Has sry fact occurred within your knowledge
where such thing has produced like bendingS A.
What was the experiment you made A. took
sword cane instrument like that, and pierced the
passed the blaze nire inches into the chest upward
and to forward. then drew it out, placing myself
towards the anterior partof the SUBJECT and in pulling
it out the instrument formed segment of a circle,
quite as large as this (pontpg to the swod and Fit
were not wen tempered it woud have kept the same
curve as this, at least one similar 10 is.
.. Was that body standing ups A. placed it In
relation to myself similar to persons standing opposite
each osher, as nearly as circumstances would admit Of
n rib
Goes not go from the spine hizonally forward 1t in
clines downward, so that in that way it fcrms very
sclid fucrur supposipg the insIumcnt to bs pulled
out in the manner have spoken Of
sthat the natural way 10 suppose it to have been
Q. Could such wound described by the Distric'
the two parties s,sndipg face -
nS stood il eo contact With each eay shon
think rot; they must have been very close to each
other. 1be arm would not have been long enough to
other.
Cross examined by District Attoruey--Q Suppose two
parties standng nearly opposite to each other aad II
should advar thisway (makng motion forward)
with such on instrument, on the other, could lie give
such woun that described when they were close to
each OtherI mean by putting the left hand the
right shoulder, and putting the ina srument behind with
the right bard-could that be done A. A wound of
the kind described coud be produced, by the party be-
ing close on his antagonist and then passing the iufc
around.
O And stabLng u,wards A. Yes, stabbng upward.
What il the distance between the ninth and tenth
RIBS, five inches TO the right Of the spinal column, and
twelve inches below the shoulder A. That would dc
pend upon the size of the person.
O. TIE man being six feet two inches in height A.
That might depend on the size Of the ribs.
O. Is there any mode of giving us the approximate
distsncey A. Well, say between half inch and an
irch
O. If. in making a post nortem examination, you
should discover the track Of such instrument this
and then from that track laccrston directly down
wards, how would you judge that that LIBERATION had
been produced-by what motion of the Instrument
Counsel for the defeuce required the question TO be
3D. and the Judge rea it from his notes, fol
lows i
Q Suppose, in making post mortem examination
you should discover the tack of such il nsrumcrt
and aceration in any direction, by what motion should
might be produced by the withdrawal Of the instrument
z. Would withdrawal of the instrument directly in the
ns q g. s n.
WitnessDrectly in the line in which the instrument
entered!
strument would be apt to produce punctured wound
by simple insertion
increase that wound A. Not to great extent; if it
out directly it went in it would not follow that
there would be much laceration.
q Now, suppose the laceraion 10 be directly down
wards would that indicate that the instrument had been
pressed upwards
Wiiness-The lung was lacera ed downwards believe.
The District Attorncy-So understand the evidence.
A. Taking the instrument lever have looked on
the lung the point Of resistance as it is called the
and illustrated by action the meaning which he wished
convey) Naturally in withdrawing the instrument
partially entirely-I mean the anterior part OF it
some part OF the blade.
q. snd the direction Of the sceration would indicate
what way the hand had been applied woul II not? A.
When an instrument acts on living person standing
must take into consideration the various motions apt to
take place on the nficton Of the injury.
o. Well suppofe the person standing stii at the time
A. The lung is feeble that It might show ccration 10
different Tire ctiors II does not cut down clci like
Piece cf b1tter, but II tends to tear somewhat.
The District Attornsy-My question Is whether the
direction OF the tear would not show in what way the
hsrd - I'M AL la
another point aso the lung Ia more or less movable in
the chert considerably during respiration, mi
therefore weud Tot be alto gcher criterion to 20 by
O. How far would it be q criterion to 60 by? Let
me illustrate the matter; dc you suppose that in pull
lingo vt the Instrument In direction the aceration
would Reproduced in another direction A. 1t would
be difficult to determine that point because you
scarcely place the vital lung in fixed position; it ID
continually undergoing motions from respraton and
the action of the instrument could not be laid down
absolutely definite on that account.
O. Would it indicate any thing ~ to the direction In
which the handle OF the instrument had been pulled
ANYTHING nothing.