The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-03-09

mons TO adopt In this grave and arduous crisis. In
speaking az am Obliged to do Of the nsso.s'ons
shle to particular documents and will endeavor 70 con-
hne myself to general outline Of the course Of those
negotiations. Ny honorable friend, the member Tor
Aylesbury says says truly enough that long as
II question between France and nus
STA respecting the Holy Places, 1t did not concern our
government to ascertain who right or who was
wrong: but Of force was heard, and
preparations began TO be made for calling fleets and
armies into requson the matter became one OF inter-
est to the government of Great Britain But If any
merted in reference to this point 1t ought 10 ran
rather upon the government OF Lord Derby and the
foreign administration Of Lord Mamesbury than upon
upon u.s. cast no censure upon the late government;
but say 1t perfectly evident that when Lord Mames
bury at the Foreign Office threats OF force were used
and indeed that the paratons OF Russia were found
ed the prctex that the ambassador OF France had
threatened to force in order to compel
the Sultan agree to demands which Russia said were
incompatibe with engagements into which the Sultan
had entered with her. i myself was Informed by Loru
Stratford de Radcliffe, in answer to question put
to him. that M. Iavalette had declared that unless
his acquisitions were complied with he would i'm
mediatfly send for the French feet to enforce them
When such threats were held out III BECAME cal lns
nation from France. ! am bound TO say that the
French met in the farest and handsomes
MANNER. (Iear hear.) 1t dessted from pretensions
which il declared to be founded treaties and in jus
tce but which, they might bring into play Opposite
preensons the part OF Russia and thus .h
peace of Europe If voluntarily abandoned Hear, hear
Such the state of the when Lord Aberdeen enter
ed Office Lord Malmesbury had written private letter
COWley,
circumstances took the same course: On the very
day on which accepted the seals OF the Foreign ONCE
wrote to Lord Cowley calling his serious attention TO the
subject felt that of the rst If not the first thing
to be done induce France to desst from her pre-
tensions because il France and Russia had gone TO war
on the question OF the Holy Places not only would .ne
of Turkey would have been at an end Wen, as nave
already said the French government behaved with the
gone further than was intendedthat he had exceeded
his instructions and conducted himself in manner
which was oppressive and alarming 70 sne sa.an IA
abstained insisting their pretensions and, in
consequences the question OF the holy places was very
settled in way which left no party any ground Of
advantage that acted with France in the cause Of
Turkey. Hear, hear) Do not let my honorable friend
imagine that this matter Of Importance. Let me
again state what had been and was the case when we
entered Office It this:-France had claims on Tur
key in respect to treaty made in l74o ana although
she fel-as she does to thespresent hourthat those
claims founded on that treaty and IN Justce we
found 1t impossible to abe France in enforcing these
claims and therefore felt it to be Of the utmost i'm
portance that the question of the holy places should be
settled Immediately In order that England and France
might act cordially together l am bound to declare
and am ready to repeat 1t and over againthat Tor
the settlement this question greatly indebted to
Lord Stratford de Radcliffe, Who having perfect know
ledge of the affairs of Turkey-having great influence
with the turkish and great power the result
of his eminent abilities of enforcing his opinions, aided
most materially in bringing about the desired result
now come to consider the conduct OF Russia. The
allegations which the Russian government made to
us-and made and again for several months
the allegations which It made to Sin G. seymourMthe
tons which made to the noble lord at the head OF the
government were to this eect-namely, that the con-
made to France by the Sultan at variance
with solemn engagements between Russia and Turkey
were at variance with the pghted word OF the Sultan
and such as Russia could not allow to take effect Russia
therefore, said that she required things to be placed in
atu quo as they existed few years before, and to OBJ
tain security that the status quo should not be again dis
turbed During the whole OF this tme-during several
ala -Russia au0-
gested gave reason to suppose that It was her
object and intention to gain anything in respect to the
she never said that se meant 70 require anything
further than security in respect to the question OF the
Holy Places The whole Of her conduct was no doubt
a deception (Cheers.) There were concealment and
decepton on the part Il Russia towards the
of this country but while we gave credit to the as.
Of the RUSSIA: ;S, We n0s 01a
augh.) Under those circumstances wrote despatch
to Colonel Rosewhich my honorable friend quoted for
immediate intelligence to the government if Russia
should advance towards the frontiers of Turkey and in
forming him that when Lord Straord de Redcle should
arrive at Constantinope he would be furnished with
more stringent instructions to the course he to
take in the event of the Russians menacing invasion
of Turkey AS regards Prince Menscnikons mission Us.
jcct the settlement Of the question OF the holy places
and while it stated over and over again. both BY
here to be concatory mission 1t was in fact as after
wards appeared, mission to endeavor by some means
other to give Russia complete supremacy over rrr
Russia. (Hear, hear.) When the Emperor OF Russia
and his Ministers say that is not the policy of Russia
to the integrity Of h ths
object Of Russia has been not At TO force on
the conquest and partition OF Turkey, tut rather
az that conquest and PARTITION and to endeavor in
the present year to degrade Turkey still than she
has been before degraded by wars and treaties
the
from the Sultan which would render him completely sub
ject to Russia that at any time he should attempt to
throw of his chains his PROSTATE and helpless condition
would make the conquest Of the country an easy task
ear hear) SdchI believe to have been the policy Of
Russia but when Prince Menschko endeavored to carry
that policy into effect had sent to the Of his
operations the best qualified in all Europe to meet
such pretensions and counteract such efforts We had
stratford de Redcle-to Constantinople (hearD and,
let me observe that had meant to be subservient
to Russia and to compliment away the independence Of
Turkey, as my honorable friend seems to suppose-n
we had intended to defer to what might ultimately be
the will of Russia, should not have sent to
Constantinople nobleman who was distinguished be-
yond all other for his attachment to the Of
the independence Of Turkey; who had always given
her the wisest counsels, and endeavored to impart
to rescue herself the state of dependence Russia
to which foregone circumstances had reduced her. Well
sir events took the which, from the character Of
Lord Stratford de Radcliffe might have been expected
Prince Menschikof made demand after another al
ways he sates softenng those demands and making
them less stringent in order to obtain the acceptance Of
which, think, he bound to do towards Turkey
without saying these the stipuatons which shall
be glad to have from you but have right to quar-
rel with you if you refuse them you consider that
they trench upon your Independence, and We have
right to demand the concession Of themnsead Of that
respect which not only all Of other nations but
even believe many Russians think IL would have been
right to evnce towards Turkey Prince Menschko
determined to break off his relations with the Porte and
to back to the Russian territory But has been said
most strangely that when this took place when the En-
peror Of Russia threatened to occupy the prncpatie
protest made against 1t by the British
But, sir, not only was there protest-not only was
there demand made for explanation In tho very
able despatch Of my noble friend Lord Clarendon-but
there that which Of ten times the value namely
that within week rather within ten days at least from
the day when Prince Menschikof left Constantnope,
there order to Lord Straford de Radcliffe place
at his disposal for the purpose Of coming up to the
neghborhood Of the Dardaneles the British feet and
there order to the British admiralty to send d
mira Dundas to the neighborhood Of the Dardanees.
Ny hon. friend thc member for Ayesbury has talked
part OF his speech II there pretence made that
this feet sent to protect British interests and not to
protect the Sultan but the purpose for which the feet
sent clearly set forth in the despatch of
Lord Clarendon, Of the 31st Of May
Nevertheless the departure Of Prince Menschiko6 fol.
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