The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-11-01
The DlMlculty Between the shipmastess and
the United States Mlnlster at Lima.

Ths DsAlculty Between the shipmasters ana
the United States Minister at Lima.
REPLY 10 TEE L.rrxR OF HON. ). n. 0LAY.
NEW YORK Oct. 30. 1854
10 rm EDITOR or rm new YORK HERALD
SHIN your paper Of this morning notice article
over the signature of J. Randolph Clay United States
Minister 1t Lima Peru, wherein hs says, (rsferring to
my letter. published the HERALD Of the 10th Of Au
gust last in to from him. which appeared Ia
the HERALD Of the 10th OF the month"; sNow, Mr.
Editor shall not notice Captain Bsattys frivolous i'm
putations farther than to refer you and the public to
the following copies of letters received from the Ams
shipmasers the Chincha Islands which you win
obige by giving place in your columns. The John
Barring the Islands at the time the letters were
addressed to me- and Capt Beatty did not agree -
their contents 1t is evident he was In very small MI
nority."
Now, Mr. Editor, shall not notice the Hon. J. Raa-
doph Clays frivolous mputatons farther than
sary inform you and the public of the following facts
which occurred the Chncha Islands, and clear myss
of any and all farther equvocating remarks that the
Hon. J. R. Clay may think proper to send from Lima.
do not wish to embroil myself in diplomatic war with
him. had quite enough of him during the Pelican war,
and diplomacy Is not my forte. Ny profession il
mans But there very essential points in an dpo
matte which should not DO lost sight a.
and they are facts and dates-both Of which sorry 10
say Mr. Clay is not particular about On the nth q
ss Of two Of the masters
Of which up Calao leaving fortythree at the
islands. Thirty.fve Of the fortyt went bcssa
of the guard ship that day. and run overheard q
the point Of the bayonet Four Of the thirty
appointed that afternoon to go to Lima COMMITTEES
the Committee at lima had nd received his papers os
Washington, which rose him from Charge dAnairs to
ana % o
sncd to his Ninstershp, he condescended to receive
them kindly and for that-when the committee returned
70 the islands-hey drew up letter Of thanks to b
signed by the shipmastcrs who sent them to Lima.
letter Of thanks indeed and for whatY For not havng
them kicked out OF the chambers their
when they came to lay their grievances before hin.
When the letter read to few Of u.s. IL appeared
ridiculous that It was about being abandoned but TIVE
and then sent around among the aeet for sigma
tures and received thirteen out of the thirty i've
signed the letter Where the rest Of the names
from IS mystery to me- they certainly were not at tho
.s: az s @ e msv "" X.
minority that Mr. Clay leaves me In At the bottom Of
the first letter to Mr. Clay in your paper q today
BY all the shipmasters, although few, (vz., twenty
out Of thirty ave,) were not present at this meetns
Now for the second. Mr. Clay wrote and sent letter
to the islands, stating that he would Immediately have
the commandment removed The letter addressed 70
Captain Barnham and others. On Its arrival ct the
islands, pitched into the Office of the oyefseer Of
the North isandone Lerrateand there II might have
riosity, had not brought it to hand So much they care
for Mr. Clay's correspondence, these islands Tho
proposed another letter Of thanks to perseveng
minister. The commandant still In power here, NOT
the assurance from M Clay that ne snosa
the prompt measures which minister had taken 70
obtain redress for the second outrage committed here va
ship Defiance This took place on the ID Of Septemhr
fifteen days after the guard ship assault and Captain
Nice kept in irons her deck seven days, under
he m In rha
ccmmandant, who would not be removed and meeting
was held on Sunday Sept y! on board q the Amercan
Of all the american shipmasters, and some English, to
beg Of Mr. Clay to accept grateful Acknowledgements
drunken, dwelling old tyrant from annoying ccmpa
ny Of respectable shipmasters, who were peaccaoly
shipmssters compssinr that meeting which as have
said, took place Sunday, day when every ship
master here is Al his wits ends to XIII time The meet
ing organize and the minutes read before thireen
American and tw English ship masters out of feet q
seventy SAIL. So much for all the shpmastcrs What
point Mr. Clay gain in his letter of to-dAyI
conceive. He stigmatized the meeting hcld
at the Astor House the 18th Of February as an ind
nation nesting got for the Of rem sa nm
ing all his letter of thanks men, except myself,
viz -Capts. Penhallow, Fabens smith, Ellery and M.
Rugges first officer Of ship Red Rover who this drunken
yrannca scoundrc had put in irons board his guard
ship, for attempting to carry out one of his com.
mandans) laws, viz not to allow any liquor to BE-
brought board American ship, except by his ths
commandants) agents. and in this meeting, called
together adopt the best to
before the Secretary of State at Washington this Ba
shaw Of Three Tails finds it to his advantage to call
Indignation meeting, called together to concoct
scheme to have him removed from his present high oce.
Verify, tho honorable gentleman must stand very
haky foundation If such meeting will have the ten
dency to remove him from Office.
The article from Mr. Clay in your paper Of August 10,
under date from Lima May IL, called for an exPanatoey
gust tho before mo- In your paper Of to-day,
calls for the above, which by publishing you win
greatly obligc EDMUND BEATTY.