The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1854-05-27
CONGRESS- OF THE U. STATES
DEFERRED DEBATE
WEDNESDAY, MAY 3, 1854.
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SENATE.
nDiGERT-issAsE BILL VETO.
message was received from the President of the United
States by Sydney Webster, esq, hts private secretary
"Mr President ! am directed by the President OF lhe
od States 10 return the Senate the act making grant
nd % die several States of the Union, for the benefit OF
persons with his objections thereto In wri-
ing"
Nj, FOOT If the from Wisconsin will yield the
a would like to have the Indian appropriation bill iad
d for the purpose Of considering the message of the Pres
Mr. PETIT For the purpose of hearing the message
read : s..
Mr.. HUNTER 1t can be laid aside by unanimous con-
' @The PRESIDING OFFICER (dr. Balcnr in the chair
nraion bill will be suspended for the purpose OF reading
The message. 80. c..,.., ..aa re ,a.a
sage, which has already been published ~ inc on,on
Nj FOOT rise 10 submit two motions 10 the Senate.
srt Gs, ia thai The communication which has just been
read lie on the table and be printed Is usual aso be-
leye to enter such communications on the Journal
Mr. CLAYTON. That is the first thing to be done
Mr.. HUNTER. The senator from Vermont has made
no motion the printing of extra numbers wish to sub
nil that along with his notion We ought have an extra
number printed That has always been usual such cases
Mr. FOOT Will the senator from Virginia designate the
number ,,..
copies be printed.
dent motion. If his proposition were to PRINT smaller
number say thousand would accept it as modlhca-
non Of my motion to print the message for the use OF the
Senate y :,
Mr. TOOMBS l hope the from Virginia will
adhere to the motion print the number which he has de-
sgna,ed This is very important document, and should
be generally dlused among the sope look upon II as
matter OF consequence than any which we have had
bere us at this session. trust the proposition TO print ten
thousand copies will be adhered to.
Mr. FOOT. That be done but do not wish to &C.
cent tina, as modification of my motion to print.
The PRESIDING OFFICER, (Mr. BRIGHr in the chair. J
The message will be entered the journal, matter OF
course The first question is the motion that the mes
soge be ordered to lie the table and be printed.
Mr.. BROWN. Mr. President--
Several SENATORS. The question isnot debatable.
Mr. BROWN. The motion to print is debatable.
Mr.. HUNTER The suggestion Of the senator from
Vermont Isl shall submit my proposition as separate
motion after his shall have been disposed Of Will do So
The motion of Mr.. Foor was agreed TO.
Mr.. HUNTER. now move that ten thousand addition
al copies of the message be printed.
Mr. BROWN. That is debaable question, presume
The PRESIDING OFFICER. 1t is.
Mr. BROWN. Mr.. President, Of course do not wish
to ava word the number of copies Of this message
which should be printed would as soon vote 'or me
printing Of twenty thousand for printing ten thousand
copies have doubt that every reading man IN The
country will examine the message, and examine It witf
great care But think it is due to those who voted FOL
to arrest public attention, and induce the public MIND
to pause, before it comes TO too basy conclusion
as the correctness of the doctrines set forth in that
paper certainly do not intend to undertake an answer
carefully prepared State paper upon merely hear
Ing il read the Secretary's desk This, however,
not first time that the subject of giving lands for the ben
Eft Of the insane has heen before the Senate Ii Yves here
according the record which lies before IN 1851. and
after an elaborate discussion the bill then passe the Senat,
bv meority of than have the yeas
nays before On that occasion the yeas were &c. nC
The nays 6 That the Senate may understand who II wa
that voted favor Of the bill at tina, time, ask leave to read
the ln Of yeas and nays. The yeas weei
aMessrs Badger Baldwin, Bell Benton, Bcrrien, Bor
Lnd Bradbury, Chase Clarke, Clay, Cooper, Davis o
Massachusetts, Dawson, Dayton Downs, Ewing Greene
Hale Hamlin, Miller, Morton, Norris, Pearce, Phelps
Pan Rusk Seward Shields Smith, Soule Spuance, Stur
geon, Underwood, Upham, and Wales-36"
The nays we're
"M,ssr.. A,chson, Cas-, Davis Of Mississippi Dodge
Wisconsin Dodge of Iowa, Ferch, Gwin Houston, Hun
ter, jones' King, Mason, Rheu, Turney, Walker, ant
Yues-l6.n
viii be by analysis of the vote that some of tn
gidy strict consruconss OF the constitution are re
corded in favor OF the bill among them are two gentlemen
who have received the highest mark Of the Presidents con
gideraion-Mr. Borand and Mr. Soue They arc strlc
osnsueonists OF the southern schoo and they have bot
been sent abroal missions OF the hrs class menuo
this fact simply that the country may be induced TO paus
before 10 too hasy conclusion IN reference to thu
subject
under consideration in the House Of Representatives o.
ls passage the yeas were 81, nays So II discusse
there Il YVES certainly not hastily passed Alter havin
been before Congress for several years. and after being pref
deliberately discussed at this session. and at former ses
sons has passed the House, II not by majority OF i've
TO one certainly by very heavy majority My experience
o. that the House they divide pretty closely upon amoS
every quekon Of general interest hnd among the yea
many gentlemen Of acknowledged ability strict construction
lists Of the constitution. good Democrats, who have
never been suspected Of ateng IN the support OF The con
stuuon, or Of demoortc principles The same bill we
uno consideration IN the Senate during This session. an
though the Senate then not fall IT in 1851
when the former taken, the bill passed this body
second time by a majority Of two to one. The vot
was - 10 H. The yeas upou the occasion Of its passag
were.
"Messrs Badger Bell, Brown, Chase, Clayton, Dawson
Dodge Wisconsin Everett, Fosscnden Fish, Foot Geyer
Own Hslnln, Houston, Jones Of Tennessee, Morton
Rnsk Seward Shields, Stuart, Sumner Thompson of Ken
lucky, Wade, and Wslker-25.n
The nays were
"Messrs Adams, Atehison, Butler, Csss Clay, Dodg
o. Iowa, Douglas Fitzpatrick, Mason, Pettt, Weller,
Nhhams-i2n
DO say SIR that after these votes the President w
bound approve the bill against his views OF constitutions
Wopey am very far from finding any fault with hin
o having sent in this veto Bot again say, that looking
votes like these, the country ought 10 pause before
comes to hasty conclusion in reference TO the soundness
he views which the President, has put forth 1t is h
hng for after passing the Senate twice by
oy Of more than two one and after passing the Hous
o. Representatives by majority Of nearly two to one,
encounter II 1t had passed hastily o
without due consideration il would surprise sny
NE President should arrest a. But tho bill before us,
dnow discussed in both houses Of Congress- at thu
and 81 former sessions.
said before TINT did not TO attempt an answer
NE Arguments Of the President after having merely hear
h message read Some of the Arguments j confess struc
me as having force in them Some others seemed
nave butitle force This perhaps arose from the fact thu
had heard them many occasions before and having be