The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-11-16

the acceptance OF this report
Alderman HKRRicK opposed TO this course Of pro
csed,ng lie had supposed when the committee was ap
pointed that rs members take the advice Of thu
Counsel tc the Corporation rpnn the point At issue
Now, il that they are to have seres Of argu
ments from several counsel IT, said Alderman Herrc
tins Is 10 be the case LEI all hear the arguments
SIT here In high state and take them at hand
'he COMMITTEES. move a. an amendment that the
mitte bs discharged
Alderman BAihl--I second that motion
Aide rman Morn asked for the reading tie resolution
by which the committee raised.
The iRtsIpExr-Pcrhaps i. would se we'll enough to
Alderman HOWARD What has the commtte dones
Tie fREsrpEST-The Chairman has just reported pro
AID. HowARp-As understand the matter this com
mittee was to obtain legal opinion TO whether
we have right to 50 behind the Inspectors returns.
they should have obtained the opinion the Corporation
counsel the attorney of tho State. II they have not
done 40 they have not properly represented me- and
am not satisfied with their action. They should have
applied 10 those genemen who are paid to cxpound the
law correctly. 1he Alderman In favor Of rendering
strict justice to every body II the chairman Of this
committee has not ys'tea these legal gen emen, then he
has neglected his duty; an Il lie has neglected his duty,
then am not satisfied with him.
The PREsIpYNr-The chairman OF the comInittce has
heard the inquiry us the Srrervssor OF .hn sixth
Aid. WnIiAnsox raid few words in reply eisersting
his report Ms given above.
rortancs. 1t should be settled at Whether the
board adjourned ana the committee power
Inue its invesgations whether tie arguments are
card before full borrd was rot matter o vital
quenee. For one, he will to agree to either course
u proceeding He had the utmost confidence in the com
mittce, which the Alderman Of tho Nineteenth (Ah
Herrck) had moved to discharge. Tie speaker was o
posed 10 this Of proceeding, for this IL
seemh that the parties both sides have engaged able
counsel (Among others the District Attorney and tho
whole matter is 10 be argued before the committee If
any member Of this board deres to hear the arguments
he do so. IL the gentleman from the Ninseenth de-
sres to have his mind enlightened the subject there
will be Enopporunity, or If any other member Of the
beard wants light he have It, Do not however, let
take the matter out Of the hands this committee.
Sir, said the speaker am in favor of full investigation
OF this matter am IN favor Of preserving the purity Of
the ballot box upon which rests the safety Of
Try and its institutions. The votes in the ballo. box
should be put in by legal voters They should be fairly
canvassed II is charged that frauds have been
mitted let them be investigated by this board il It has
power / do not say that any frauds have been COM
mitted but if on investigation it shall appear that such
s the let the guilty parties be brought to justice
Let do our duty and meet the question.
Alderman CHAuNcKY-When made my motion yester-
day was OF the opinion that ought to hear the petit
tcners. am Of the opinion still. The commit
tee win doubt be happy to have everybody present
and they can enghten their minds on the subject BY
hearing the arguments ON both sides. 1t would not be
the proper to take the matter ont Of the hands Of
the committee
Alderman HYRRICK did not think there was any neces.
sity for committee. He OF tho opinion that the
Canvassers disobeying the law BY proceeding
to the dis charge Of their duty and canvassng the votes
We do not want anything more from this committee
The resolution appointing them does not give them the
power to go into any investigation The Law requires
that we shall 60 on with the canvass. Let do It,
then, and If any objection is made to return, will
hear it in the proper place. Another why this
committee shonld not proceed is contained in its organ
zatiun. The minority Of this Board have voice In It,
The committee is altogether and entirely whg There
fore it ought to be dissolved. Such partiality
precedened The democratic members Of the board had
right to demand that every thing should be done fair
ly, honorably and above board. The members Of the
committee all honorable men, but they all par
tissns, and have known honorable men to do things
for their party which they would not do under other
circumstances l would not have all democrats or all
Il Is dangerous to trust one. sided committee.
The PRhslpENI-The gentleman from the Nineteenth,
torsets that he himself moved = excuse the scntema
from the T~ euty hrst Aid. Met the Ajax Of the de.
mocracy, from serving ON the committee.
Alderman wAKxnAS said that the committee had
tanly right to their own judgment regarding their
vestgation Of the natter and Is business OF theirs
to 60 about hunting up lawyers The question at issue
employed both sides, and II right that they
should be heard. Tie committee would then report
could not be altered BY the coastruction Of
the committee. The law would BE- democratic law,
well as whig law. And cannot (said Alderman Wake
man) zee the FORE Is the remarks ~ the gentleman
from the Ninetec M IIerrick), IL present only
the law and tho Thin Is no, political arena this
the vote Of the county, and although the gentleman
from the Nineteenth would do things for bis party that
he would do for nothing else, Y does not follow That
every else resembles him. The committee had intend
ed to hear the Arguments Of counsel this morning 1T
ten o'clock but ascertained that -four o'clock this
had When mt the s'e eonnits to sonion Vi. ii
sented It sppeiTs 70 the committee tbs, they are
takng-the course psinted out by the resolution
Alderman KnLY--L am opposed to this comnIttec--in
the frst place, because it. was appointed all from cae
The PREsDnT-Ths Chair cid not appoint 1t so In the
first place.
Alderman Kr1Iy-No matter whether the Chair ap.
So In the next pace, Ii James W. Barker had been
chosen Mayor of the city, should not have heard
and his Friends come here and make disturbance about
a set Of bots and fanatics that the democracy has
crushed out.
Alderman wAxxxAS-In the city Of New York;
Alderman KnLr-Yes, in the city Of New York, and
it Will be crushed all over the country Fernando Wood
New York in spite OF all the efforts Of beots and fsns
tics hope the committee will be discharged.
Alderman MorT-The remarks the gentleman has just
Alderman KnLy-They are true; nothing but true.
Alderman MoTT-The gentleman tells us that the men
only bigots and fanatics. Who is he that makes this
asserti0nf Is he an American ctzenS Ara to be
told here that American citizens nothing but bgots
and anatcss Are driven to this extremity II such
ia the case, not surprised ut that great revolution
which is now sweeping the country and threaten
Ing to carry everything from Maine to Georgia before it,
II are to be told here by elected to represent
in Congress that the voice Of American born citizens
is to be hushed then there Is need Of such revolution
Let him carry those doctrines into the halls of Congress-
There he win find response. Let him proclaim them
in the streets, and from whom the response will
From those who have aed from tyranny in other
andswho have been protected by government, and
who the first to rise up and say to American born
citizens, sYou not ft TO manage your affairs"
lave been friend 10 adopted citizens, but when they
arise and say, 1--WE demand precedence native
citizens take my stand against them. II il prnc
pie which would crush the institutions OF The country,
and bring disgrace the heads Of its ctzeus. hope
tIct the number Of such adopted citizens is few trust
that but few Of his countrymen agree with the gentle
mar from the Fourteenth ward.
Alderman KELLY am native born citizen. Gap
plause from the lobbies
The PRxIpENr-Individuals n the lobbies viii refrain
fcm any expressions either OF their approval dsap
pyGbation.
Alderman Mcrr-The gentleman states that he was
boxn this country. Neither his acts his language
would lead believe that such Is the fact He how
ever exert his influence against true born citizens and
enuncatcs principles unworthy Of him. cannot think
any American citizen would desire that foreigners should
take precedence Of native citizens He may have been
Torn here but he has inherited the dcspotc principles
Of his forefathcrs and matters but little where he
was born, that he does retain those principles
Alderman VooRHs-I do not see what this has TO do
with the question. call these gentlemen---
Alderman KkILr-I want to say word OF two in
reply
The PrrIDESr-The question is on
alderman VooRHs-An this discussion Is out Of