The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-03-18

government question with reference to matter which
only came to my knowledge yesterday namely to the
preparation for Of twelve rgates coryettes
the breaking up of the ice. The question which wish
TO put 10 the government whether her Majesty minis
tiers intend If they can, to prevent those ships
leaIng the Batcf There is doubt that II is the
tenon of the Emperor send them out of the Baltic
before ships arrive at the entrance of Cattegat If
they arrive at the Categat of the Maze Of Norway
and go round by Scotland and Ireland and before i've
weeks from this time the tranquility which lasted
so long at Lloyds will be suddenly disturbed by the
tifcaon OF the capture Of British unsuspecting
chantmen of the chops of the channel TO the north
of Ireland and the feelings Of all England would be dis
racted by the capture of British artillery in sailing
sells, without convoy, taken by Russian DIVA
on their passage to the Mediterranean. enter
tain doubt that such is the destination of those
ships, and strengthened in that opinion by the
present position of eleven Russian of war which
there is frigate at Manila thanking the whole of the
China trade. We have 5Ogun ship, recently in state
Of mutiny at Hong Kong There is then gun frgate
off Australia where have only 20 gun frgate, and
another 26gun rgate has been ordered out to relieve
herr the whole Australian trade would therefore, be at
the mercy of that man of-war At Rio there is 4gun
fgate which, in the exercise Of hospitality,
Gently repaired at Portsmouth, where the art6cers
required for purposes. That vessel is now at
Rio and believe the whole number of guns we have at
that station not equal to the number of mounted
BY that ship There was schooner at Madeira, which
prepared in the waters OF Southampton and the
9th November two heavy frigates seen off Cape de
Verde and from the direction in which they steer
round Cape Horn In the Adriatc there are three Rus
Instruction All these vessels unmatched and they
may all pounce upon our trade In different parts of
the world The Emperor of Russia ia at perfect liberty
to give orders to that effect for what we have done
is virtually declaration of war and usti6es him in
giving instructions to his ships to act accordingly Those
ships may be met with equal somewhat superior
force to stop them at the entrance to the Catega but
If permitted to leave the Categat three times the
number would not be sufficient to protect trade 1t
therefore matter of absolute urgency the part
of the government to make up their minds to what
they do The orders should be issued instantly
and it will not do to give instructions to each ship which
may be sent to the Categat at distance of three
weeks send boat and intimate that every Russian
ship which may be met with must go back to her own
port come into English port The sending of such
message would be extremely announcement While she
is sending her boat she ought to be firing her guns dou
BILE shotted. trust that will not be adopted
conclude that be considered to attack
be given the Emperor of Russia the intentions
entertain and those vessels be at the mouth of
not day. hour, ought to be lost in giving that
notice. therefore beg to ask my noble friend whether
frigates and corvettes from leaving the BaltcY
The Earl of ABERDEEN-I think my noble friend, who
has been accustomed to conduct military operations of
great Importance can Scarcely expect to give him
answer to his question. venture to hope my noble
friend will give her Majestys ministers credit for pos
sessing Of the activity and watchfulnes which be-
long to himself. Hear, hear) Ny Lords would de-
cline to give any to question the reply to which
4 only be useful to the power against whom
acting-(hear hear)-and my lords henceforth beg
say Rat shall consider it to be my duty not to answer
any question respecting the prospects of military
val operations of this description. Hear hear Ny
noble friend has, with more less accuracy, described
the position of the Russian naval force in distant parts
of the world, but he has made grev0userrOr in his
statement by saying that they unmatched. Hear
hear Flu Their than this do not think it necessary to
enter into this subject hut must decline giving
the question asked by my noble friend and trust
the house will feel that am right in doing (Hear)
4 The Earl of EIIENBORoUGH-i am not justified, my
lords giving Majesys ministers credit for activity
and watchfulness gve them credit for everything that
can be drawn from within the four corners OF the book
of political economy and finance and believe they would,
to great extent propose that would obtain
confidence and support but minister's they
yet utterly unried and when, my lords see that they
of the value of tne which in war almost
eyeIythingwhen that they have postponed for two
three months the most necessary and essential
tons absolutely required for and for the
protection Of the coasts of Englandwhen the naval
and military force which they propose to employ utterly
inadequate, justified in complaining of their want
of activity and watchfuness. 1t is dscredabe to this
ment scarcely increased and to endeavor persuade
itself that it will be little war; when it viii be
of the greatest in which this country has ever been
engaged. / say, having these Impressions cannot
give them credit for wachfuness and activity shall
be most happy indeed my forebodngs not realized;
and if those who have shown, to . great extent
ability for the conduct of affairs in peace shall
hbt similar qualifications in the conduct Of the coming
The Marquis Of LAxsDowNE-There is one observation
of my noble friends with reference to the war; which
tircy concur namely that it not little war, and in
deed, cannot be: (iear, hearl But that which mos
ever looked at that war for moment IN the light Of
little war-(hear, hear)-and if the noble earl knew
than he appears to know of the preparations which hav
been made for that great war and the manner in which
those preparations have been conducted he would
his m tho sFs Is ,oms
to SAIL and the admirable army prepared to start say,
these afford evidence in favor Of the wachfuness
foresight and determination of the government-(hear,
hear)and when the noble lord to look into these
particulars am confident he will have the candor to
that the preparations have been eecual and will afford
sufficient proof only with reference to the particular
details which he has brought under the consideration Of
Of the wachfuness and activity Of tie Queens servants
(Hear, hear) But let me add, 1t would take away
great deal from the merit and effect Of that watchuness
f. having been watchful they were to announce the
tails Of that watchfuness in public and to this House.
even upon question proposed oy the noble earl in such
fulness but to betray it, in its Details to the enemy
The Earl Of me say one single word
the example which the noble marquis has brought
forward Of the foresight and the
ment The noble marquis has adverted particularly to
the magnificent feet now in preparation that feet con-
sists believe OF eighteen vessels of which only
things with the chance Of their being engaged with the
enemy fortnight less after they leave the shores of
untried ships with eleven untried crews
proof either of foresight watchfulness 1t
precisely to that very point was advertng think the
state OF negotiations in November was such that the
should then have proceeded to make those
preparations which they began to make two three
months later and then they would have had such feet
as we have been accustomed to conquer with-a feet
which had been at sea- and whose officers and had
been subjected degree of discipline and expert
ence, would have given almost the certainty Of success
The Earl Of WICKLOW aaid the country had been at
peace forty years and it extraordinary that the
noble earl should under such circumstance aege as
fault against the that they sending out
untried ships and To suppose that at the break
ing out of should have and ships in the
state in which the noble earl thought they should be-
was the mest extraordinary proposition he had ever
heard of. (Hear)
SUPPLY OF ARMS IN ENGLAND AND THE UNITED
STATES
/ The House OF Commons, February, 9th went into
Committee of Supply upon the remaining navy estimates,
when the different votes agreed to- after discussion
Mr.. Monsen then moved the ordnance estimates. Be-
fore proceeding to explain the for increasing the
difei cnt ,otes--thc number OF being raised from
1855 last year TO 266 and the total charge E792 81
above the votes of last year-he dwet upon the i'm
mcnscy increased efficiency Of the artillery force In
rect 10 the condition of the ordnance the military arti
feers finance regulations the artillery horses the
rNntNon irsin The inercase in some the items he