The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1854-08-07
THE WAR IN EUROPE.


IMPORTANT DEBATE IN THE BRITISH
In the House Of Lords on Monday, the Gath ult.
the Reading Clerk in his usual naudible Tone read
the royal message on the subject Of the war with
Ruseia:-
VICTORIA REGINA
her Majesty, dcemng IT expedent to provide for any
additional which may arise in the
in which her Majesty is ged against the EN-
peror of Russia relies the affection of the House Of
Lords for their in such "a may be
necessary for making provision accordingly
The Earl of ABERDEEN then said-My lords, in
moving address of thanks to her Majesty for her
mcst gracious message, and In giving her the as.
that thus House will concur in her Majests
desire, expressed in her gracious message, do not
anticipate any objection on the part OF your lord
ships clear, hear) My lords, whatever may
be the differences of opinion on the subject Of
the war in which We are engaged and the events
which led to it, shall assume that there is an en-
tire agreement Of opinion the necessity Of adopt
ing all such measures as are best calculated
to lead to early and successful termination Of the
war. (Cheers) Ny lords, shall also assume that
this result is mainly to be produced by the activity
and energy Of the efforts of England and France,
with the concurrence Of the other powers. My
lords it is to be presumed that at the present period
of the year the ccse Of the existing session Of Par
lament cannot be long delayed. It is also highly
probable that IN the course Of the year contin-
gences may arise Of which it may be of the highest
importance that should be able to avail ourselves,
and to turn to account in the prosecution of those
endeavors that are to lead to the happy result to
which have referred. My lords, it Is intended for
these reasons following the precedent which upon
similar occasions has been adopted-to ask Parlia.
ment for vote Of credit to the amount of 900
sterling-a large sum undoubtedly, and one which
it is possible some noble lords might prefer to
entrusted to other hands than those who will have
the disposal Of it. But am willing to believe that no
such wish will interfere in any degree with this de-
sire to promote and assist, as far as possible, the
efforts which her Majesty's government have
made and will make under the circumstances to
which Ihaye referred; (Hear. hear.) The House
will clearly understand that this money which has
been now demanded has already been voted and
provided by Parliament There isno question Of
loan it is the authorization to employ funds alrea.
dy provided, but which have hitherto not been APP
propriated by Parliament. Under these circum
stances, my lords, think do not make an unrea-
s0nat1e proposal in following that course which,
under similar circumstances, has been observed by
oil proceeding Governments, and In asking your
lordships to concur with the other House in ma
king provision for any additional expenses that
may arise. move that IN humble address be pre-
sented to her Most Gracious Majesty to return to
Her Majesty the thanks Of this House for her most
gracious message, and to assure her Majesty that
this House will Cheerfully concur in such measures
% are necessary for making due provision for any
additional expenses which may arise in conse.
que nee OF the war in which her Majesty is now en-
gagged. (Cheers)
After some remarks from the Earl of Peterborough,
The Earl of CLARENDON ssid, as my noble friend
has given notice OF his intention future day to
cali your lordshps' attention to the state of ne
gotiatIons, and to move for copy Of the treaty
ately concluded between Austria and the Pore, I
hould not have troubled your l0rd5hps with any
oil vations the present occasion If it had not
been to rtctify one or two errors into which my
noble friend has fallen more particularly with refer
ence to that treaty, and in which think it neces-
sary that he should be set right. My noble friend
first stated that that treaty was concluded on the
lth Of June after the siege Of Sistria was raised,
and the Russians in full retreat. It is quite
true, believe that the treaty in question was con-
cluded on the l4th of June; but at that time, so
far from the Russians being in full retreat,
the siege was never 80 actively carried on, or
with so great hopes on their part Of q success
full termination to it. 1t was not until the 23d
of June that, owing to the vaor Of the Turks
to which my noble friend has paid nothing but
q Just and well deserved compliment-(hear, hear)-
the siege was raised and the Russians were in full
retreat. But that time that treaty had not been
ratified, and it is only in consequence of our not
having received ratified copy Of that treaty that it
has not been laid before Parliament; because,
though am ready to admit that it is treaty Of
the greatest importance and interest to this coun-
try, and one of which the public have q right to
possess early knowledge as Is practicable, y as
your lordsbips are aware, until we receive ratidca-
tons Of that treaty from the governments bet ween
whom it is cor cluded it would not be usual to lay it
before Parliament. ! viii repeat what my noble
friend has already stated, that Austria is an indie
pendent Power, mistress to pursue her own policy
in the manner she thinks best. But Austria is also
under solemn engagements to other countries; she
has vital interests of her own to protect and un-
less we can suppose that she would bring
disgrace upon herself, that she can be I'M
faithful to her engagements, and that she
con be blind to her own most urgent and
may say, vital interests-we must believe that she
will act as she ought to act, and we have every
reason to ey ect that she will act. (Hear) For
Austria, il must be remembered, has already de-
clared that the course which France and England
have pursued in summonng Russia to evacuate the
Princpalities, and in carrying out that summons to
its legitimate consequences, was reasonable and
ustiable; she has declared that the evacuation Of
the Principali.ies and the freedom OF the Danube
affect not only Austria, but the whole Of Germany
and she has declared too, with England ard France,
that It Is necessary to deyse some means of includ
ing Turkey in the general system Of Euro )e-which
means that Turkey is to be freed from her onerous
engagements 20 Russia, and from the wrongful in
terpIetaton OF her treaties With that Power.
(Hear.) Austria has also herself summoned
Russia to evacuate the Principaiites, aud lastly,
at great experse-at an expense which she is
very i'll able TO bear--she has organized and
equipped one Of the largest aud finest armies
which believe has ever been seen in modern times.
As il is impossible TO suppose that Russia viii volun
tarily submit TO the demands which Ems land and
France with Austria have addressed to her, 1t is
equally impossible to suppose that Austria having
made these recent demands, will ANONYMOUSLY
withdraw from them and Will consent to sink her
self in the scale Of nations, by acknowledging the
superiority of Russia, and submitting to her dicta
ton. | think we may be assured that the time Is
not far distant when we shall have Austria coope-
rating with us. (Iiear, bear) ] believe that that
cooperation would have taken place long since If 1t
had not been for the diGiculteswhch beset Austria
and which are, perhaps, not properly understood or
appreciated in this country. In the first place. in the
course of last autumn Austria had reduced her army
by 100 600 men and any person with these
matters viii allow that 10 again raise an army to
800 600 Is necessarily work of time. (Hear.)
You may also be aware, my lords that in the month
Of March Austria was ready to conclude quadruple
treaty and the protocol Of the 9th OF April was but
the compromise TO which she was compelled to
submit. Recent information, too, has been brought
before yon by the noble and learned lord ca the
crossbench, with respect to the combination against
Austria In the interests Of Russia which has been
called TIE Bamberg conference, and which MP to
this day has prevented the Austrian and Prussiun
treaty being submitted to the Diet These difficult
ties and others TO which do not think il right to