The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-01-18

Mr. RlCR--Just in the way described by M. Cur.
re. have lived there Two years and half and CAM
| not break horse in TO pass the steam cars. The
people Of the neighborhood are rapidly lcavlng and
| allegc many excellent reasons.
The CHiIRMAS-How rapidly do the cars gencr-
kr Rick should think about thirty miles su
| hour.
The CnArRaAS-Arc the families leaving solely
through the terrors occasoned by the locomotive?
| Mr.. RrcK-Yes And there is no safety for any one
in vehicle passing through the Eleventh avenue.
Alderman HALEY-Supp0se the Eleventh avenue
paved, would that make any difference
Mr. Rick don't know about that; but certain il
is that have many horses boiling there.
CIArRMAs-Havc you seen any accidents theret
Mr.. RIcK-Thcre was man killed there short
time ago.
The CHAIRMAN inquired if there were any gentle
men present living further down town.
Mr.. HALD made q few remarks corrobOrative Of
the foregoing evidence, and was interrupted by the
CHAIRMAN, who said that the question was,
by the stopping Of the locomotive at sxtyrt street
! Mr.. HALD said he thought such a measure was
very desirable. He felt sure he spoke for the in.
habitants generally of that part of New York. He
said that the railway company would render Az obi
cation by putting on line of horse cars-thst il tn
say line from Chambers street to Sxtyirst street.
The stopping of the locomotives at Sixtxfst street
was desirable, because beyond that point there wers
but few if any houses.
CHAIRMAN Then you consider that with that
point the locomotives become nuisance?
Mr.. CURRIE-Exactly so, sir, and particularly with
regard to horses, for they are all frightened.
Mr., HALD said he knew many gentlemen person
ally whose horses had boted.
Alderman DENxAN asked, If the locomotives wers
dsused below Sxty-frst street, would property rise
Mr.. +. P. CLARK gave it as his decided opinion
that property would be increased in value.
Alderman WARD made q few observations with re.
gard to the fact Of the railway having increased the
property in value.
Mr.. HALp, in reply, said he would willingly ex-
change of his lots in the Eleventh avenue for
some Of the Alderman's in other parts Of the city
short conversation ensued with regard to this
point.
Alderman HALY suggested that the state Of pro-
perry was not the exact question.
Alderman WARD-No! That is not the point. The
question is relative to the nuisance alleged to arise
from the of locomotives below Sxty-frst street.
Mr.. Habit is a nuisance in many respects AMI
that is the point to be considered.
Mr.. LlNsEY-We take that ground only.
Alderman SVARD-ls the use Of locomotives the
only reason why you cannot let your houses?
Mr.. LlNsEY-it is, sir, as far we can discover
The CHAIRMAN Mr.. Strong, what difference OF
time would il make in using horse power, instead of
steam?
Mr.. sTRoSG-About ten minutes, I should think.
The CHAlRMAN-The great thing will be, not 10
Cypress the Hudson River Railroad, and at the same
time to relieve those persons living below 6ls street
Mr. SrRoNG-The company have built buildings
under your charter With heavy trains VIC are
obliged to 90 at q momentum, in order to overcome
the grade. Since the late storm, we have lesscnej
the speed to about ten miles an hour.
Mr. HALD thought that if the loss Of time did rot
exceed ten minutes, the company would not be very
greatly Inconvenience by substituting horse power
for steam.
Mr.. STRONG said that the additional expense of
transportation would be considerable, and that the
company would be very seriously Inconvenience.
The CHAIRMAN-There is another thing which
should be taken into consideration, and that is.
whether the city of New York would not suffer BY
the loss Of time which Mr.. Strong had shown would
ensue, and thus induce many persons 70 come BY
the Boston railroad.
Mr.. HALD was Of opinion that the nuisance ought
under any circumstances to be abated.
The CHAIRMAN inquired if any new facts had ia
be adduced!
Several gentlemen spoke at once to the effect that
II the locomotives were not removed, property would
be ruined.
Mr.. F. DALTON declared that. last year, he had in
tended buying some property in the Tenth avenue
and contemplated giving 81 900 for it, but having
been told that he could get cheaper lot in the
Eleventh avenue. in consequence Of the running OF
the locomotives having deprecated property there.
he boughta lot for $780, and being under the expec
tation that the locomotives would be removed, no
built four story house and store, and had beeu
unable to let it since. 1t is one door from Forty
ty.seventh street.
The CHAIRMAN inquired il the houses that had
been built had ever been occupied
Mr.. CURRIE-Yes, sir. have had fifteen tenants.
myself, who have moved away in consequence of the
locomotives.
Mr.. DALTON said that he had ten children and ii
he lived In the Eleventh avenue he could not make
sure Of their lives for a week
Mr.. LINsEY declared, that in all this movement
there not the slightest spirit of opposition TO the
railway company they We're only opposed to that
portion Oh their arrangements regarding the running
of locomotives below Sixty-irst street; nor do
look particularly TO the matter OF our property
though We feel it. We wish TO stand on the same
ground as the citizens Of other parts Of New York
who are not nuisanccd. This committee would
wish the evil diminished. If its members were cir
cupstanced as we are. We are under obligations to
the railOad company for bringing strangers into
city, but at the same time in particular district
they breed a nuisance, and we wish to have il d.
minishcd TO show the good feeling we have towards
the company, ] will engage that all Of US hero
present will be in favor OF the Common Council
granting them facilities. for which we viii pay. [
move that the COMMITTEES do adjourn, in order To-
hear further evidence on this subject FOR which
will be prepared on another day.
The CHAIRNAN-If the committee decide To meet
another day. il would be well for you and your
friends you not to be entirely prepared, Ia
come with afidavits, in order that we may bring
them as evidence before the Common Council
Alderman HALY, addressing Mr.. Strong enqnireJ
ifheavy trains did not require to be moved at great
speed in order to get them over the gradients
Mr.. SrRoSG.-Wc should probably have to bring
them up to fifteen miles an hour. We despatch thir
teen trains each way every day, and the average
speed is not quite twenty-five miles an hour,
Alderman HALY--Mr Strong, suppose it should
please the Common Council to stop your locomotives
what expense would be entaied on the company
Mr.. STEONG.-Thc expense Of moving our shops
and depOts and to build new shops, and the properts
which the company hold III Thirty.first street would
fall in value More land. too you'd have to be bought
in order TO build new depots on. If the COMMITTEES
now adjourn shall have something further to adj
duce.
After some conversation. Il vas moved by Alder
man Haly, and carried, that the committee should al
jouII to Monday afternoon, the 3lst instant
Court Of General Sessions.
Before Judge Bechc and Sl1ermen Brsey and Francis.
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