The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-09


that when this city, at the beginning Of the last
session. perhaps much opposed TO the proposition
tho from Texas MT Rusx as The Eelass
from Iowa Mr.. DoDsE knows and 1t was for reasons
which will not mention or suggest. But SIR have
upon reflection and investigation in my mind and from
the opinions Of other>y constituents whose opinions
bound respect-eoe TO the confusion that nov Is
the time for the organization of this Territory IL IS the
propotous time The treaties with the various Indian
tribes the titles whose possessions must be exungushed
better be made than al any future time for as this
question Is asated and IT is understood, white men,
SPECTATORS will nerpose and interfere and the longer is
postponed the will have 10 fear from them and the
difficult will be extngush the Indian title in that
country and the harder will be the imposed. There
fore Mr. President for this reason without going into de-
al am willing now that the question shall be taken,
whether we will proceed to the consideration of the bill
not.
chairman Of the Committee Indian Affairs [Mr ArcHi-
son desire TO inquire whether country be EN-
brsced 10 this Territory belongs to the ndians
Mr.. DOUGLAS. If the senator will allow vote to be |
taken, and the bill to be taken up, he will how it is
Mr.. ADAMS | want 10 know
Mr. DOUGLAS But this is proceeding regularly. |
Allow the bill to be taken up and then discuss il
Mr. ADAMS. Ii is the first time that ever heard such
objection raised in this body that such remarks reg
uar II would be contrary to precedent not to be irregular
Mr.. DOUGLAS have no objection to discuss The mer
its of the BILL but want free scope of debate allowed i'll
the Senate will allow the bill to be taken up will endeavor
to explain the matter.
Mr.. ADAMS l am not willing to take it up until ! am
convinced that have Jurisdiction III am correctly
informed in relation to IT. the portion of country proposed
to be embraced in this Territory is Indian territory
According to the treaties have formed with the Indian
tribes they have the usuuc Of the andhat is they have
right to occupy the territory, according to treaty sPua
tons with the United States, in all time to come, if they
think proper keep it, But the government has reserved
to itself the right the of their selling it, to purchase
it. The only power the only tide that the United States
has any portion of the territory, understand it, is
the right to purchase IT, The has the nent
domain but the sci belongs to the Indians they think
proper keep it. in all time to fthere foot Of
there, have right to extend jurisdiction over
it, Again am told that there are not one hundred white
people THERE and they all respsssers To attempt them
to call this bill up and it. with thin Senate this
is in my humble Judgment improper and cannot meet my
appreciation II were private clam mere matter of
justice individual would have no objections but
this stage of the session call up much
portance seems to should not be done and shall
of the Senate, the consideration Of the bill this time
Mr. ATCHlSON replied to the remarks of Mr.. ADAMS
Without completing his remarks, he gave way report of
the committee Of conference on the
APPROPRIATION BILL.
Mr. SEBASTIAN. The committee of conference on
the dlsagreeng votes of the houses the Indian
preparation bill have been unable agree l. therefore, do
make any report SUCH but feel myself authorized AMI
instructed IN consequence of the understanding between
the members of the committee, say that could have
agreed upon all the points of difference except the ninth
amendment of the Senate which amendment ref
to appropriation of $3.50 600 for the establishment
of military Indian reservations in California Upon that
the committee of conference unable agree, being the
only of six points Indifference will further state
that the terms upon which agreed the terms upon
which likely to agree, would be by the Senate
ceding fron amendment No. 10 the bill, which pro-
vso reference the payment Of money any agent
which offered and recommended by the from
Texas, Mr. RusK,] inaicung penalties for its violation.
The committee OF the House willing recommend to
the House to the sixth amendment of the
by which the appropriation of $4,000 the Texas In
dams was increased to s3OOoO with the provso proposed
to be added
"Of which snm, $4,000 may be expended in such man
he Secretary of the Interior may deem necessary
fer subsistence and preserving with the Indians"
The committee the part of the Senate agreed 10 rec
ommend that the Senate recede from the appropriation for
the value of the reservation Andrew Taylor and from
the amendment embracing the extension of the time of the
land ssoners in California, upon the ground that
there necessity for passing now, because the
mission would not expire until March, 1854 So that the
committee could have agreed upon every point with the ex
cepon OF the for collecting the Indians together Cal
orna was understood, however, that if the Senate
acted upon this intmation far recede from the
other amendments the committee the part of the House
would undertake, on their individual responsibility
ommend the House to in the amendment regard
to the California indiana. have stated the prospect
which the bill has, but make report. therefore move
that the Senate recede from 5th 9th 10Th amend
ments, and insist It's 9th and 9h and of
conference.
MIR BoRLAND. Idesire to make an inourv Of INV COL
league with regard to the 5th amendment do clearly
understand the views of the subject or
the position in which il stood.
Mr.. SEBASTIAN. The fifth amendment was a proyso
to the effect that the money should be paid any
person but the one 10 whom appropriated The
agreed recede from that on the ground thai
already provision of general law applicable to the case
IL observed by the of the House that would
work with peculiar hardship upon the Indian chiefs here
attending to their business particular reference being
the Shawnee chiefs.
Mr. HOUSTON. think it was tantamount to a sane
ton of corruption, fraud, and swindlng.
Mr. SEBASTIAN. will divide the motion, and move
now that the Senate rccedc from lie 9Th and 10Th amend
ments,
The motion agreed to-
MIR SEBASTIAN. | now make the motion to recede
from the 5th amendment
Mr.. HOUSTON. The objection made cannot by any
means apply TO this. 1t insisted upon by those gem
temcn who wished TO pay money the Shawnees the
State Of oh that belonged TO that tribe of Indians
that the money belonged them per capita The govern
not hope, going here the dlschsge Of the trust
conhded TO it, to hand the Shawnee chiefs the
amount Of money in precious metalsand in all human
probability they would not receive paper money-because
would be unsafe TO trust that them in travelling
for they have not the protection that the white
has. IL IT gwen and lost, the government would
still be amenabe to the nation who have right claim
capita They say that 1t pconyenient pay in the
proposed that Of the Shawnee chiefs OBJ
jeced to it, Has the government listened to the objection
made by the Indians any particular mode in which
they wish treat hem II is the first time voice of the
Indian has been heard in opposition power of this
government, unless with his rifle in his hand and in his
own 1t tho very frat time that have heard
OF ~ and here up all interpose in the
execution Of some very important matter connected with
the well being Of the Indian
will read the proviso show that the objection has no
Application, and that there objection it. unless it
for the purpose of soncionng fraud and imposition upon
the Indians
Prorded, Tha, the sum aforesaid shall be paid to the
said tribe per capita And il any Indian AGENT or other