The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-05-13
THE ART UNION INVESTIGATION.
Before Hon. D. B. Taylor and A. n clapp

Warner Cha- Hoyt, J. A. Coe W. Fullerton Hon Ogden
Hoffman; r, H. Shannon, T. P. St John, W. Monk
captain Darling of the Legislature, and = Mr.. Smith,
gentleman from Batavia. witness in this case.
Jupius A. Smith was first called As witness.
M. ShRnnon-Q.-Where, Mr. smth, do you reside
Al reside in Batavia, Genesee county, this State
Q-Havs you had any connection with the Art Union
have been one Of its secretaries for several years.
Q.-Were Jon secretary IN lsol sir
Ayes, sir -
.Q.-Whst number OF SUBSCRIPTIONS oid Jon procure
during that yearf
Al should think, about seven.
Qlhose subscribers did they make application TO yon
IN regard 10 the wings of the year 1851 aud 40
did you apply to the officers in regard to the proceedings
Of 1851 2 49,
Mr. shannop-TSen win change the question Did you
make any appcaon - the officers, in regard 10 tho
drawings Of 1851, and II so, whyY
Al don't remember any particular application !
had less correspondence with them during that
o-sub.cauent to 1851, have you made any appca
tionY
Osipce the year 1851 have you received any notice
respecting the proceedings Of the American Art Union Tor
the year 1852 OF 1853.
them; can particularse What It was
Q-Preyious to the year 1882 lad you been in the
habit Of receiving notice OF the proceedings OF the Art
Union?
Ayes sir.
Q-Durng the years 1852 and 1853 have you received
such notices you in the habit OF receiving prior
Al have not perhaps should explain, before that
was in the habit of receiving circulars but after 1851
knew ell that to be known and there was no need
Of circular - -
Q-Mr. smith; those subscribers obtained in 1851
dn they receive notice from ou 70 renew ther SUD
fcription for the year 1852 or 1898.
A.---No Fir. -
Q.-Aave you, subsequent 70 1901 maze any aNpnea-
ton 10 procure subscribers
o-Haye the subscribers for the year 1851 received
apythirgS
l-Nc sir; / believe rot.
Mr. shannon--Ihat j. all ! have to ask.
Mr. FuilertonSay If you received copy OF tnat cir
cular (hsnding him psper).
Ayes, sir.
Mr. Fullsrtop-I will read this.
Mr.. shapnon--Let me see first.
Mr. Fuilertop--You have produced it In evidence and
proved it. decentralization,
of this circular, because il is irrelevant
Mir Fullerton--I would submit that Mr. Shannon asked
the witness he had received crs and the .itosss
answered yes, and parcularses this circular as the
Mr. Fullerton then read the resolution relating to the
suit If the Art Union against the New YORK HERALD for
New YoRK, Juno II 1857
srn-I instructed by the COMMITTEES Of
inform Of the present position Of Che Oh tne r
Of in ss.i a for dr. qs S.s
X g.. as1 II m
dsan
the State This Application a decided er
as seie"ed with hsaon
sssna h f.. CHEF ":
trsmey able oppion fully sastan she o9an
s sls
the Court Of & court f
the Supreme win 10 reversed Our counsel expects
mus. remain spsPsDs q sh s1
til the case can be reviewed and nnay Of WHICH
you will be duly
receive the bulletins Of the Art Union through your
Al should think they obtained them every year mp
o.-Gr smith state whethsr you received a notice
from the Secretary in regard tohe result of the ease In
the Court Of Appealsy
Mr.. shsnnon-That ought to be produced
sir. Fullerton-We win produce II.
Odd you obtain any notice from the Corresponding
Secretary regard to the eDgravings OF last year,
Al really cannot ans postively my impression
Mr.. shannon object to impressions
MIR. Fullerton-An want is the benefit OF the gen
tlemans belief.
engravings would be distributed; can't say whe.her
was in ne We pa per circular.
Mr.. Fulie, tcn-That is all want TO ask, Mr. smith.
MIR. shsnnon-Did you say you have seen any notice IN
the newspaper otherwise for the last Year,
A-No sir; Imean for the year 1851
Mr.. ShannoD-Ah! thought you misunderstood.
Mr.. FunerionHis question implied the Last year, 1882
Witness-Ny answer referred to 1881
Mr.. Shannon--What amount Of commissions did you
for obtaining subscriptions for the years lS49
and 1861
Al really can't tell you; it is frigheful amount
1t might be ten dollars.
Mr.. sh8npon-That is ell, mr. smith
Mr.. Fulerton-What Per centage did you receive on
the amount subscribed?
Witness-Ten per cent, believe, is the commission.
Mr.. Fulierton-You reside at Batavia!
Witness-Yes, sir u,oer .ubnoens rum, ..r
M. NJ; r ..4ta.s
Nitness-Yes fir.
Mr. Sbannon-At the time you received the circular
subscribers 2
Witness-I cannot tell; suppose they oil under.
stood It.
Mr. Sharnon-That Ia AL.
The witness then signed and swore to his statement
The Committee then took recess Of fifteen minutes.
Upon resuning the investigation
Mr.. John II. Williams was called upon the stand.
Mr.. ShaDnon-Where 10 your place Of businessY
A.-Nc 1853 Broadway.
Q-What Is your business
A-I0oking glasses, pictures, paints, and paintings
Q-What is the name of your firm?
A-Willams, Stevens a. Williams.
Q-Have you or your hrm ct any time during the
organization of the Art Union sold any pictures TO that
institution
Ave have.
Q.-s,ate What they were, and when they sold9
Al can only nov state to the general TACT that We
have sold them / can't from memory partic ulsrise.
Q.-Have there been manyr
A.-Not many.
A.-Speakng entirely from recollection. We have per-
haps foId TWO dozen.
Q-Were those pictures sold on account Of your hmf
A.-They sold sccount of the artists, generally,
to whom they belonged There only exception that
can now remember
Q-What is that exception
Al. is painting by Flagg that we had purchased of
him, and subsequently sold to the Art Union.
Q.-Gye us the title of that picture3
A.--Isahele.
Q-Who purchased hp
A.-Either Mr.. Co1ens Mr.. Geo. W. Anstin-I think
Mr. Cozzens
Q-Do you remember picture entitled Tangled
Skienf'
Al do not.
QDou you recolect whether the artists whose works
you sold, were Americans or fsregnersr
A--They we're residing here. Whether natualiIed or
not do not know.
Q-Do you recolect picture entitled The "Gypsiess'
Al cannot recall it; may have sold such picture
Mr.. Shannon.-I should like to have Mr.. Williams
obtain abstract from his books, stating those par
ticulars.
Witness-I will willingly do so; will give you what
names / can from recollection.
Mr. Shannon--Vcry well.
Witness-We sold account Of Addy, Culverhouse,
A. f. TAFT and lie Grand. believe that Il all the
can remember IL you have any papers here, memo
Tands may refresh my memory and state more; the
Of the painting will recall tho whole Affair think
l sold one for Brent.
Odd you sell any for Mr.. Berford9
Al think did.
Mr.. shannon-Were Mr.. Addy and Mr. Culverhouse
America1s2