The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-30

pushins IL ASIDE . little, smoke, mingled with fame
for SR hs purpose Of SEEING there FIRE Sso
after that the alarm Of fire given buckets we're passed
passed buckets myself left and went back to shsrs
Collyer appeared he had Of the dining
cabin when got 70 where my daughter the excite
took her the sarboard side and told her hold her
head over; saw one passenger had jumped overheard
s1: to e. ns shore 5 s
the gsDgway; having my back against the
ratings they pushed against me; told those who had
away the rangs then addressed as captain Of the
boat by Of the ladie and caught hold
me; then passed my daughter and another lady
could not get ward took Off my and all but my
pantaloon passed four passengers over while the boat
yer to save passengers he in the water passing out
boards; saw Mr. Germain in the water with axe.
saw Captain Taman at the edge of the water the only
time did see him after the boat ashore.
| Q-Were you demonstrated with by LADY,
Mr. Cumming objected Admitted
Ayes lady addressed me as captain Of the boat;
Mr. Colyer not present at the time he left at Pough-
keepse herself and left three daughters and servant
| board Who believe, lost.
Cross examir ed-I timed from Albany to Hudscn
the distance il thirty les she was two hours gor
1T rext timed her between Hudson and Catskl she left
Hudson twenty minutes past nne and arrived at CAtkl
about thirty nine minutes past nine the distance about
six miles next timed Bristol to Kingston am
positive the time she left Bristol arrived at
Kingston in the neghborhood of ten O'Clock; don't be
isve it. was anything ever ten think now It mn have
she the river at Bristol she lay out for the dock
she abe ut ten rods out in the river west north of the
| cock.
To Mr. Hail. att nded the meeting at Aston House on
the 2sh Of July made address statement to those
present. saw 1t in three different papers not spoke
it; saw it in the Tribune, HERALD and Times.
| O. Did you say anything like this
giving his opinion to the of the calamity
| Mr. Rdder cast much blame the odicers-hrst for
firing up to such dangerous extent; secondly, for
tinuing to the boat in her then condition after
menstrance and thirdly that there fire buckets
board to extnguish the fames which he thinks might
readily have been dons had the buckets been there"
A. ! did not nothing like it.
O. Then, instead of saying what the Tines represents
you to have said, you sad just tue opposite
running the boat fter remonstrance.
O. Did you say thing about the want of fire buckets
| might have SAID they were all in use
O. But the general scope of your observations at the
Indignation meeting to exonerate the officers whom
| the meeting called to condemn
A. Yes did not so to the Times office to- correct it,
| two of the papers were alike.
Mr.. Hal-Then you let it 60 forth to the world that
cenured the officers when you desired to exonerate
them
A. never contradicted the statement in any paper
To Mr.. IcMahon-The observations made in favor OF
the officers received with disapprobaton. They did
not threaten to throw out of the window but they
prevented another person speaking after
To the jury will be SIS years Of age morrow; the
first steamboat on the rieer was in 1907 doo recoect
whether it the Hudson the Fulton, the Chancellor
Livingstone was in the war Of 1872 and my name stands
| John Van Buren, (not the Prince, examined by Mr.
Wheaton deposed-l reside at Kingston; am lawyer;
was poa .rs merry my lug ~ ~ sue was 1es.royeu
We followed the Armenia from Catskill to Bristol the
-. 'ns On" a. W. 1'ne M Nh
her; the Clay crossed over to Tvoi the Armenia
i ioo"eu very reay Ia .x INC r same .iaoh, anu very
n u ~ sh I'm no s~o s 10y ,u ;i ths .o ea.
very to her; then the Clay pushed to the
o., ;nto bar sncton. az annaarsd w hs IN rb.t
heard boatmen say of boat being in the suction of
another when we get into the ives ern channel Turkey
int Tho hnafa fhQr. fna wanna
followed her some Considerable distance SO close that
cracker could be sent from one boat to another She
the nece, sarv course in ore- to oct into
were so close YOU could throwa chew Of tobacco
! 10 the other: the CLAW las probe DIV her lenoth
as near as Abe safely could nun thew were passing
to get the west channel; side by Side the Clay being
abo1t twenty feet ahead The how of the Armenis
about at the forward gang plank of the Henry Claw when
going towards the west chanpel saw thew we're likely to
come in contact heard some gentleman tel the passsn
going to The side il rase
The sarboard Side above the Armenia thew glanced to-
have been seven miles from Kingston am acauainted
with the country there it must have been approaching
eleven O'Clock when we arrived at kingston did not re
mark the time but heard it said we were behind time
| The witness was not cross .examined
! Hewitt Lake examined by Mr Mcmahon deno,ed-.
am pilot for six years principally engaged on the North
river recollect the time the Henry Csy was burnsd
was en- the river with nv boat and In the vicinity of
Henry Claw ut that time INV boat was going to New
the Henry Clay was from half mile to three quarters
ahead of boat when first her. had
down in the cabin saw her off the forward deck of INV
vessel she was then headed down the river about the
same distance ahead of INV vessel about three
of a mile; she was onet third the way across thu river
from the east shore then vent up to INV pilot house
and saw her then heading around for the east shore at
that time saw smoke and we thought she WAS on fire..
saw on her upper deck aft and on her guard
Aft saw some of thosa nasssnueys hmm int {ha Aa,
can't tell how many thew were rusb;nc over n,sttv
there must have been twenty Ave or a9 nassangar: ;
over the vessel was five hundred feet from the az a. h
At the time did not see any one ump over before abe
x.sturns II tbe az At shors ihsv ;umned ovsr IN cd
went down the river TIL We cot abreast of her.
towing barees at the time: when got Abreast Of her
tonh fonr nsn IN hoat th NJ. and -en+ ~ osst -
saving nassenpers. Wv" ~ ~AN "'A' = ''' -
'~ ~ ss A-snuns 81 ., a.. sa... o;.; ....-
and lonh Cd .. - ha bod haan =; the LII, no va ." "o''
90 Md .o ' s "a A sn Ia th;no 81 NJ C~9
a. p.u y1I pee any .i.,is VI M. Cohy'at
q. saw Dr. oos CT ~ Inc WAFER WIN ooaos, anu
SS11sss passengers asnoe VIII .ne poaras ne having
noio VI one ena nAo tne passengers the otner IN my
judgment, as pilot, mink that vessel could not nave
oeen put ashore any dierent way 10 save the lives on
4 BOARD ner.