The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-02-20
The Alleged Perjury I'M the Forrest Divorce

COURT OF GENERAL SESSIONS.
Before the Recorder and Aid. Smith and Bard.

with at the usual hour this morning The examination
of Susan Allen, formerly servant Of Miss Josephine
Clifton occupied nearly the whole day and caused good
deal OF am use ment TO the audience
The Attorney General, Mr.. Chatfeld, conducted the
case assisted by Mr. A. o. Hail. the Assistant District
Attorney.
Tie defendant counsel, Messrs. Whiting, Clark and
Phillips, appeared as before
Susan Allen mulatto woman, examned-Resded at
present in Phadelphio knew Josephine Clifton in her
O. We're you living with Miss Clifton in 1913 and IA
Objected to as lcadng) O. Where were YOU living in
with Miss Clifton; Miss Clifton lived in White street in
dclpha. She did not leave New York in 1914 until De
cember In the months of June and July, she was very
and was With her Constantly for two days and three
nights during that month she was unable to sit up
lid she go to Albany at any time during the years ls43
Mr. whiting-wc except to that suppose, sir, (said
he rsng) the Attorney General conceives we have no
right get down question with view to except to it,
but supposed we had that right
The Recorder-oh, that is conceded.
Mr. Whiting-We!l sir but the gets out before
We viii now tafe the question. Question re
peated Objection overruled, and exception noted An
swered before No O. During the time you were with
her, did she ever go away without your accompanying
her? OBJECTED TO- objection ovcrruled and exception ia
KEN A. No. sir never was always with h vs;.,,
that to all the time, is it confined to 1S43 and ls4A
Mr.. Wilmington, no. All the time.
Mr.. ChatGeld-My question was, did she, during the
time you were with hers
Examination contnued-Witness lett her service IN
September, 1S47.
Cross -examised by Mr. Cark-Iived in Philadelphia
since she lett Mrs. Place. formerly Miss Clifton;
ed to Peter Allen New Orleans had heard of him in
two years. and did not know whether he dead alive
Her name before she married Susan Flamer. O.
manner A. Don't know. q Ever call you ''Blazes''a
Witness-E they did it was not my name Qanghter)
Abbott gave ey sSo Whens A. 1885,
how do you know it in 1899. A. Because it was in
1888, alone-Miss Clifton then dead; there in
1875; Miss Clifton with her. she sure then
ISL s After little her
corrected and SAID Itod 49, Twas there with
Miss Clifton want you to understand that-Qaughter)
Il was there before in 1885; Baltimore my home
raised in baltimore; engaged with Miss Clifton in
Baltimore. O. Who was with you in Baltimore in 1887
call yoa Bses in New Hose Yes they
did, and in great many places o- In what G G0p
remember any other pacos q Is your memory good
about places as well as datesY A. Yes, indeed sir
i d. Rd ay WSo ea al :S BnAf
Not that know, except the gentleman who gave me
the name she fixed the time in 1889 BY the years her
memory very accurate; Mr. Abbott was dead; she
knew that she heard it read in the paper Mrs
Houghton, in Philadelphia VINO reading the paper to
her. she did not often read TO her; she aforementioned
how often did not know how long it after he gave
her before or after Miss Clton's death. O. Where did
you live them A. 'sTo home' Q. What do you means
A. With my sister Q. When did you make that your
lived now in Church street, PHILADELPHIA there was no
number Spruce street. with her brother; did not
occupied the whole house and had family; he was
bootmuker; came on from Philadelphia on Mondays she
was sent for BY Mr. gentleman s for her
had known Mr. Forrest between 10 and IL years; dsre
membered where she became acquainted with HIM could
not tell the yes she could the 1872 did not
member where she first him; (recolecting her
se it was in the city Of New York in a White
rmenaber the month or time OF day; it at Miss Cliff
TOMS she didn't quite remember where she first
him; it neither morning night when she him
at Miss Cfton's had Mr.. Forrest before in Phila
dephia but not to know him. Miss Cftons the first
place she saw him to speak to him OIL want you
disremember The time of year. in July, 1872 Miss Cliff
ton went to Buffalo to play an engagement the witness
the river In; Mr.. Forrest board the boat; they
were going to play an engagement together there were
promenade deck; know there state rooms. o.
What time in the morning did you arrive' Ans-About
Mr. Cbateld-I object to that question as it assumes
the fact they did arrive in the morning
Mr.. Gark--Well that's good objection think, Ito
Mr. whiting--No it is not We have tight on cross
examination, to assume fact or lead witness.
Mr.. Chatfeld-No, no.
Sr. Whiting-Yes. yes
The Attorney General read from book, the title of
Mr. Whiting continued to maintain his position; and
Mr. Chat6eld said-weI, its past now and let it go.
meInber.
Witness continued-s7e knew by remembrance tina. it
was in july they did not stop anywhere did not remem
the day they arrived before dark in the afternoon
she quite clear it was before shutdown; du't re-
member how long they remained in Buffalo; they
in lodgings; went from there to Rochester, didn't rcmcm
Der how long they there did Mt recoect where they
came to Now York, all came together came down by the
steam boat didn't remember what boat whether night
or day boat or what they got here saw Mr. Forrest
again him in the street and when he called to make
call Miss Clifton him again in White street. in
November; called Miss Clifton business they
that year in November started by boat but there
much ice that they got out at Casteton and went
Albany; they returned to New York: didn't remember
the hotel all stayed at the same hotel; didn't remember
where next she saw Mr. Forrest. Q-When did you
we went anywhere in 1913 Counsel-Thnk again
wi;ncss--rm not good at thinking or "guess-
baltimore; did Tot think Miss Clifton went any
where out o, town before that; she sick pretty
time she had no other phy.ician Dr. Cheeseman did call
to see Miss Clifton once; called Doctor called
but once dsrenembered what time; thought it was in
much incidence did not remember who went to the drug
store for IT, what drug store it witness went
herself reelected particularly the state of her health in
1874 Ir Quackenboss attended her for two days and
three nights; she had the govt and it went TO her sto
herr A. don't know; it might have been; know he
was called in once Witness contnued-shc had been ill
enough but very bad that time; did not remember
how often Mr. Forrest in the habit of coming that
house in White atreet did not remember whether he
in the habit Of calling during the whole time she lived
with Miss Clifton, nor at what hours, nor how hate
he usually stayed lie used not TO stay long; Miss
Clifton occupied the whole house; her bedroom
the front room. @. Did you Mr.. Forrest
in that room? Indignantly and en- ,batical-
ID No Sir Witness continued Had left Philadelphia
and here to her brother last winter; had not
been in New Orleans srce ls4T married there that
year. left 9th june and to New York then, with
Mrs Place her husba nd since he did know
she coming; we'd with him altogether nearly three
months oisrenembeTed whether she had lived with
her sister since; dsremembered when she did live with
her sister, whether she had lived with her after she
went TO live with Miss Clifton; coukn't read; couldn't
say what yer she born in; her birthday was in
October couldn't say the day Of the month she
ried in had had conversation with any person TO
these dates, or as to what she was 10 testify 70;
bad told person what she 20 testify; her at
tention had not been called to the dates by any
rpryon. thinking and sreakino were two thnrs.