The Kalida venture. [volume] (Kalida, Ohio) 1841-1865, 1853-05-13
In SENATE-M March 6, 1853.
(COntinned.l


JOHN MCCULLY, Of lawful age, being
by me first duly sworn as hereinafter
certified, deposes as follows:
Question. How much land did you
lpurchase attbe land sale al Defiance :,
Ohio, at the State land office on the Sd
Of January last?
/. Answer. About seven hundred and
eighty>four acres. s
! Question. Did you purchase that
land exclusively for yourself, OF had any
other person any interest in the purchased
Answer. dom, know as have airy
right to answer thai question. pur-
chased 10 make a home for my family.
Question. win you inform me directs
ly whether any other person had an in
icrest in those purchases which were
made in your name?
i Messrs. P. S. Scvin, and E. II. Phelps,
Esqrs., appeared as counsel on behalf oI
the witness, and the witness objects 10
answer the question, which is still pressed
by E. II. Leland on the part of the com-
miuee, and is answered as follows, still
protesting:l 1E W s
Answer. don't know but they had,
Question. Who had an interest with
you, what was tina, interest, and how did
liz arise? ol
Answer. VIM. Carter, ESQ.,, of this
place, furnished me with the money. |
was TO have the money for two years al
six per cent. interest, and wLat | could
no, pay back of The money within iha,
time was 10 deed 10 him part Of The
land. ra .FT ga.aav e-cei,.
Question. Was there any written
agreement between yon?
Answer There was not at The lime
Question. Has there been any since
Answer. Yes, sir, there is since.
Question. Have YOU any copy or
memorandum Of that agreement?
Answer. No, Sit, have not
Question. How much money did you
get Of Carter for this pnrpose? VIA
Answer. The whole amount of my
purchase.
Question. How much are you bound
ia your agreement to pay Carter?
Answer am bound within two
years to pay, with six per cent. If |
don't pay any portion Of the money at all,
| am TO have the S. w. i Of section i 4,
township 2 N. ! E. II pay ii all Lam
TO have all the land. This is my recol-
lection of the talk between hlm and me.
suppose ii is in the written agreement
bu, do not know. | cannot read il.
Question. Is there not an nnder>
standing between you and him that you
are not 10 pay the money, but that he is
10 have The balance of the land?
Question objected TO by counsel.
Answer. There was not such an
understanding. The bond may read
different. don't know. hl
Question. Did you intend. at the
time you made the purchase, 10 became
an actual settler on section l9?
Answer. Al the time made the
purchase | did not know which piece
should settle upon, | had never seen
either, and have never seen them yet.
bought them upon the recommendation
Of Nr. Woodcox.
Question. How much did you pay TO
other persons 10 hire ,hem mol 10 bid |
against you, and TO whom?
Answer. Colby withdrew his bid, and
two others who .ere bidding withdrew,
and another man who was stranger was
bidding. He spoke up and asked me
what would give or take, and he told
me he would give or take ten dollars.
said would give ii, and | paid him the
ten dollars, and then the land was struck
off TO me. gs
Question. Do you know Of any other
persons who paid money in the same OF
similar way 10 keep men from bidding;
il so, who paid ii9
Answer. | don, know as do.
his
JOHN ID McCULLY.
mark.
WILLIAM CARTER, Of wfu! age, being
by me first duly sworn as hereinafter
certified, deposes and says, in answer to
the ioiIoWIhS quesuohsl iW ilE E23
Question. How much money have
you furnished John McCuliey 10 buy
land at the State Lind Office in De-
fance, Ohio:
[The witness protesting as 10 the
power and authority of the person ap-
pearins TO prosecute this investigation,
(none Of the committee appointed being
present but Hon. John Taylor,) and be,
heving that The subject matter Of the
above inquiry was never contemplated by
the resolution under preicnce Of which
the inquiry is made, and denying the
power, if it was eve! contemplated by
said resolution, TO institute an exparle
inquisilon into the private affairs of cili>
zens-not officers Of the Siale--and
believing thai tho above inquiry by Mr.,
Leland is the result Of an overweining