The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-03

around me thaitis the opinion OF the Senate that It's
coaferees have already yielded until the patience of oar
friends has grown threadbare. Nor do think that the
Senate should under The present circumstances, accede
to the request TO appoint another committee OF conference
however. will think OF that.
The PRESIDENT. The Chair will request The SEN
aor making the motion 10 reduce il to writing in order
that The question of order may be clearly and distinctly
presented
Mr. MANGUM. If the Senate are prepared 10 take
the position which seems TO be indicated in different parts
OF the chamber strikes me that the proper mode o pro-
ceduIe is that the Senate decline appointing another COM
inee of conference upon this bill.
lThe PRESIDENT pro tenn. having signed enrolled bills
OF the following TILES. they were delivered 10 the com
mee. 10 be presented 10 The President of tie United
States:
bill making appropriations for the service of the
Post Office Department during the fiscal year endiag aoh
june 1854
bill to supply deficiencies in the appropriations for
The service OF the fiscal year ending 30th June, 1855
bill 10 establish certain poroads, and ior other pur-
m Mr. DOUGLAS. lam not prepared to take the ground
that we wall not confer with The House again upon this
question. think that if the Senate now adhere, we
shall be making up an issue between The two houses
with some degree OF feeling, which Will result almost
inevitably, in the defeat OF the bill The House have
proposed 10 confer with u.s. aud think we would better
meet them in spirit OF good feeling and see II we can
come TO agreement, and not take an alternative that
will put The two houses on their pride IN this matter.
think there is dagger OF acting from the ceiling which
am aware pervades The Senate that we have already
yielded too much on other bills That may be so but II
Is no reason why we should take rash step on this bill
There may be some amendments from which we could
recede without much feeling, and which would render
The remainder OF the bill acceptable to the House.
would rather have another committee oil conference TO
ascertain whether the disagreement is upon two
or upon large number OF the amendments. We may
find that the disagreement is upon amendment from
which the Senate would recede without moments hesi-
aton; and inclined to think. from the information
have that il the point of disag eement could be brought
before the Senate, they would recede at by
wheming majority Andl the Senate would recede by
an overwhelming majority il is evident that the House
right in refusing their part in the hrs place There
ioe, would rather make another effort 10 agree before
taking any final step which would result IN the defeat OF
the bill.
MI RUSK AS have been requested by the Chair TO
reduce my motion 10 writing have done so; and oler
II In these words
Resolved That the Senate decline the request Of the
conference on the bill Of the House, No 3s7 making up
popria lor the civil and diplomatic expenses OF gov
erninens for the year ending June 30, 1854
MIR. ADAMS beg leave TO call the attention of the
Senate before the vote is taken to what seems 10 me- at
least 10 be msapprehenson In relation to lhls question:
feeling seems 10 have grown up between The TWO
houses, because the House has not agreed 10 the report
oil the committee OF conference. beg leave 10 cell the
attention OF the Senate 10 the form OF our government,
and TO the object OF the creation OF two houses and II
The Senate will look that they will that there
no dsespeoi intended this body and that il would be
very proper 10 conform TO the suggestion OF my friend
| from Illinois.
before any should become law it should re-
the sanction of majority OF both houses And If
majority OF this body is IN favor oil proposition, and
majority OF the other house s opposed 10 II, take for
granted ih al honest difference OF opinion, and that
according TO frame OF government tue about
which there this difference OF opinion should not become
a law The House OF Representatives passed bill ma.
king appropriations for the civil aud diplomatic expenses
of the government for the next fiscal year, and sent to
this body Tor consideration We made great number OF
amendments 10 it, The House have considered those
amendments and coDcnrTed III many oil them, ard 10
others they differ in opinion from us. The matter
lerred by both houses TO committee OF conference. The
Il mDu hAfS nj that ItIrp tRp nj rzSh
met and conferred and reported to their respective houses
the result OF their deliberations The Senate concuTred
their conscience approve OF H. Now ask j. there a
man IN this body who desires 10 iorce majority oil the
other House, when they det from in opinion, TO pass
into law that which from the very frame OF our govern
ment II was intended should not become law, merely
because II is upon an appropriation bill IL ls an hon
est difference OF opinion, and one to which we should
yield unhesi,angy or at all events when they have
asked further conference, we should extend that cout-
'esy to inlnt lnem' I'd .,,.,.n,;,n
| Mr ADAMS. ! know that but according 10 the
frame OF our government, when majority OF one body
dsagrees TO measure proposed by the other house,
that measure ought not 10 become law. Sepators are
now proposing 10 force the other House measures
TO winch they cannot conscien,lousy agree We pro-
pose 10 say that they must submit uncoud touay when
1t Is known that amalouy OF then honestly and con.
scientously differ from US IN opinion. II Is proposed
that shall say TO hem You shall lose the cvil and
diplomatic appropriation bill, or you shall yield, contrary
10 your judgment, the propositions which you think are
L
any unkInd feeling between the TWO houses 1t is wrong
to get up this rivalry between them, and say that the
opinion OF one House shall prevail that OF the other
What will be the elect OF this Lei reflect Tor a
nenl. and what would be the effect Of the motion OF
the senator IRON Texas II the House should insist and
If they as have supposed and as think the Sem
ate bound 10 suppose, conscientious IN their dlef-
ence OF opinion, they will insls-he result will be that
the civil and diplomatic appropriation bill must be lost
the wheels OF government must stop, The Executive
must call extra sslon And all know, from past
experience that the calling of extra session seals the
death warrant OF the party IN powethe President who
is not to blame IN this matter That will be the result.
tween the two houses TO bring upon themselves such
consequences must be Inevitable every must
see, II Is Tor them TO do so.
I am not disposed, for one. TO attribute any improper
motives 10 the House ~ differing in opinion from
They pass bills TO which never can assent And may
we not likewise pass bills 10 which they cannot assentl
! am wng 10 use every effort within legislative
thotity and precedent TO bring about good understand
| ing between the two houses aud all parliamentary
should, IN my judgment, be resor,ed to before
hazard endanger tue passage OF a bill Of this sort
hope, therefore, that The suggestion Of my friend from
Iuois may be scceded 10, and that shall extend
the House OF Representatives the courtesy, they have
to meet and confer with them. am not afraid of the
selection of who will maintain the rights OF the
Senate Gentlemen talk about the rights OF the Senae
SIR, the Senate has no night to force majority of the
other House The Senate has right propose 10 The
House any amendment and the House agrees Il II II
no right TO oce them The right force does not be.
| long to MS any more tban II does 10 them.
/ Mr. DOWNS, The honorable senator IRON Misss-
sipp that we have right 10 force the House into
measures l would ask him il he intends 10 YIELD and
| If The House are 10 force us
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