New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-11-28
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ly and ably protested tic asi melting u the Con
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rro,ess from the h Ward School from the Trustees Of
St Paieks Cathedral, and the Catholic Orphan Asylum
in Prince street.
promised The last meeting to visit the B0wery ptnon
ers, rot present, but that the gentleman who had
called them in the Chamber, and was prepared to
show that there was only one property owner among
III, m, from B0ome 10 Beeckerst. that all the others
we're tenants only that the majority were in favor Of turn
ing the freight trains alone from the Bowery; and that
many CT those whose names were affixed to the petition
did not siCnit
Tie person suded to was questioned and answered in
accordance with Mr.. kpps assertions
Isaac Young, Esq, objected in tho name Of the
church the Of Lafayette place and Fourth ST.
pause ensued; upon which
Mr. Ncthan said that he had been desired by several
gentlemen present return the thanks OF the meeting to
the Committee for their attentive consideration OF the
remonstrants arguments and then gave brief summary
of the objections which in his opinion should be borne in
mind by the Aldermen In forming decision We see
here crowds of oldest citizens holding up their hands
against this project There has appeared no one IN sup
port of It but those interested in the railroad project Ask
yourselves what TO become OF the poor man these an
noyances are to 60 On
gentleman then came forward and complained of
some paper having printed his name wrong and spoke
what lie would not like TO see his name affixed to-
Mr.. Barrow having arrived, gave in the papers which
proved Mr. kipps statements, AM recaptulaed the i'll
Ia rent arguments against the Railroad Company.
Several other gentlemen spoke in suceessoni one OF
whom said that ii the rails we're laid down ne was con
vincCd that the peOele NOuiu tear
be had lived for seventeen years in Blocker St. butwoud
ont of Immediately if this petition OF the monopo
lists granted.
Rev DR. Spring said he rose with much difiience, in
Consequence OF having Obruded himself at the previous
meeting lie would ask the learned counsel Tor the rat
road company II this petition e@ana'ea from the company
Gen sand;ord-It originated with residents in the
BOwery. go . -.
Rev DR. Spring eOntnued-If he did not consider this
grave question he would not have there at the end
Of tho wee when other duties demandedhis attention else
where. lie questioned not from the patience with which
the committee had heard the remonstran that they would
come TO the result which common sense, good morals anu
sound pieiy would yindicate.
Ihis Is not an ordinary question The great question of
Railroads. one OF permanent interest 10 me welfare OF .ne
whole City Their interests conflict and are increasing
This is fitting occasion 10 investigate the question There
were he said only three considerations presented to his
mind by the speech OF the learned counsel IA the Ht meet
ing Of the Committee and thse ne WOMB orieuy con
First. 1t was affirmed that the Harlem Railroad was
benevolent instituon-it was SO seems formed INC
public good not for the benefit OF the propetors Not at
all This Yves thought that never came into the minds
of the gentlemen from Harlem He doubted whether
thew had ever been slandered before lie did not say
thai they were rot benevolent individuals he doubted not
that If applied to for aid to phanthropic institution they
would s1hscribe be only denied that the pubic good was
the object they aimed at in establishing the Harlem Rail
road This case was that of the interests of mOneyed cor
poraton against the interests OF the citizens OF New ok
tAppause They want you to give up your streets Tor
their accommodation to RAISE me price OF ther sOcAs
Applause THAT 5 so.
Second-Tba we did not understand our own interests
railroad corporation appearss them better
tbanwe do and that II we did justly view the questionwe
would see that this railroad would benefit us all
The Doctor said he had single thought in reference to
this matter When we looked round this room ana saw
how and by whom il was crowded. and recalled the pro
ceedings of the last meeting certainly seemed singular
that these men should be blind to the benefit TO be de-
rived from this benevolent Institution OF railroad
The third consideration in Gen Sandfords last speech
yas-and ii a snguarly consistent one !-tnat al
though do not understand our own interests our P
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great question h Is this railroad for the public good we
agree to the principle that private should give way to pub
lie interest. This was republican precept Dat we 90
not agree that violent hands should be laid on our property
without an equivalent being given for It, This railroad
would the value Of property TO yacliae-no man
could tell what his property would be worth SIXTY days
hence Now, in what way compensation given tor
this deterioration of the value Of property Theprospey
of people consists in the mness OF the texture by which
they hold their real estate Once let yacaie and you
have no confidence in the value of real estate In the whole
City No man viii know what the value OF his properly
will be sixty days hence Is for the interests OF the Cy
to produce this state Of things Yet by complying win
The demands Of the Railroad Company we would thus DO
situated.
NV own personal firm belief is this That the interests
Of the City require that this railroad should build their
ep6t some miles Of the Ctyas high up at least a.
Fortvsecond 81 He believed that If the Council granted
their request and laid down the track they would have 70
retract before five years elapsed was peter mere
fore 10 stop now And he felt assured that by giving
eoD favorable the remonstrants this Council would
confer greater blessing on the City than any other act Of
theirs could by any possibility render to IT, APPau'eI
Gen Sanford replied in substance as tollows
am Glad that the learned gentleman has thought proper
TO leave bis usual avOcations, 10 enghen as on railroads.
to which subject suppose ne has gwen much tlIe ana
canals He thinks that produce would nnd us way 10 our
City without them. Why sir our City Is made up oy raE
roads and canals did say that railroads were be-
institutions a. he terms them, but that those who
entered into them public spirited Individuals who OK
reced that the effect OF the enterprise would ultimately
benefit citizens This the reply nave 70 InaAs 70
the sreerpg remarks of the gentleman against railroad in
.,tutiors did say the other evening that people were
much mistaken az 10 the evils Of railroads Go wherever
railroads east and you viii pc Iod ts ~ Az .ae ;she9
saw the evils ere imaginary in great degree They are
not hall 80 dangerous omnibuses There is no more
inconvenience in passing ear man 10 en-
and the other yursues deviang course. Besides the
public streets belong not 20 private individuals but the
citizens large have interest in them AMI should ~
much be heard the property holders around US hr /
Stew srt thinks invading the rights OF private ci
zons lie did not think when he applied for railroad
track fr his private Itefestwhen he asked Tor
track from Centre 10 Broadway 70 draw n marble FOR
his palace know that railroad notso objection.
ellie as line Of omnbuses The same excitement existed
lex a., but Il has now ell subsided and the street more
quie place than II before so viii be with railroads.
everywhere As for the petition which has called ortn 80
much aIimadyerson am not responsible Tor H. Oat an
told II s bona 6de paper got Up in good faith know
Of the names to be real for have read them On
sign boards in the Bowery.
A gentleman denied the statement OF Gen SANFORD
relative TO the people Of Varick H. They all believed u
10 be nuisance and the value of property in that street
bad detsrioratcd in consequence.
Several other speeches In which the argument Of pre-
vous speakers were reiterated were then deSorcdn sue
CO ssion, and two other protests made,
Es Alderman James Rely said i was jus, remark thai
all tho ciseus Of New iork had an equal right IN The
streets Of this City lie had listened with much aiiea.ien
to tho arguments brought before this mectns am IA
fasor and always have been In favor ot giving s great
ss latitude "a railroad enterprise but sl aim Ia ia'uf q