The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-03-31
THE GARDNER CASE.
CRIMINAL COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA. I
[REroRrED roR THE RErusL1c.l


Carolina, for the defendant. ---..:
81 TENTH DAY-Wednesday, March 80.
Examination of Don Jacobo Sanchez Navarro
resumed, (Mr. Bowes acting az interpreter.)
Mr.. MAY, Showing apaper.) Ask Mr.. Navar-
no to look through that paper and find the sigma
the seal of that State.
14ns He has seen them.
Ques. Ask whether from his knowledge of the
handwriting OF Senior Reyes and Senior Guzman
these signatures are genuine or forged!
Ans He says he refers to what he said yester-
cay, that the signatures of Mr.. Reyes and Mr..
Gozman, as also the seals, have been constantly
The CouRr. That is, the signatures and seals
10 the DISPOSITIONS?
Mr.. Rowes. Yes.
genuine or false?
-Ans He believes they are false.
false?
Ans. He believes that this ia not the seal that is
used now in San Luis, and he does not know whe
tner 1t has been used before.
Cues. Does he believe that was the seal used in
July, 1882
Ans. No, but ne believes that if this has been
used 1t has been used long time before
QSes. Ask him whether it ia the practice in the
public offices of the Republic of Mexico, when the
seal OF the State is changed to break the old seal
or preserve it?
MIR. BRADLEY. Ask him first whether he knows
any thing of the subject or not.
Ihe DISTRICT ATTORNEY. Ask him whether he
knows what the practice is in the State of San
Luis Potosi when the seal ia changed-whe-
ther 1t is to break it or preserve it?
Ans. He does not know.
CUES Has he ever heard of a mining town
listing in the municipality of Laguinlas and State
ofSan Luis Potosi?
Ans. He has not
Cues: Has he any knowledge OF a silver mine
said to have been owned or worked by Dr. Gardi
ls46e
Ans. He does not know any thing about it.
by Mr.: BRADLEY. Was he ever in Laguinillaa?
CUES. In what State Is Saltillo?
Ans. Coahuiia,
Cues. How far from Monterey?
Ans. Twenty five leagues.
CUES. Ia there frequent intercourse between Sal
tillo and Monterey?
Ans. There is.
CUES. Does he know who was the Governor of
New Leon at the date of that paper-lS5O?
Ans. 1t appears to him that in that epoch Mr.
Garcia was Governor; but he says it frequently
happens there are ntermissions, and the governors
are replaced by others.
CUES. Does he know the handwriting of Mr.
Garcia?
Ans. He does not.
eues: Has he ever received any public docu-
ments from him1
Ans. He never has received any public docu
ments, but private ones He has received letters
from him. They have had friendly communica-
tions.
Ans.. He has.
CUES Does he know the seal of the State of New
Leon?
Ans. He knows it, but cannot say what it is
Ques Ask him to look at that on the paper
shown him?
Ans. He cannot say whether it is or not.
eues. ASK him to look at the 81 nature of Senior
Garcia, and say if it ia the same he is accustomed
to see in the letters he has received?
Ans. He says it ia not very easy for him to say
any thing respecting this; that he does not remem
Der the handwriting of MIR. Garcia
CUES. When was the paper first shown to him
Reyes?
Ans. The day before yesterday.
tbes. w as his attention at the same time called
to the seal and signature of which l have just
spoken?
Ans He was desired to examine the signatures
OF Mr. Reyes and Mr.. Guzman and the seal.
man with him?
-Ans He has none here.
CUES Has he in this country any papers written
by Senior Garcia or signed by him!
dns. He has none. He has d, cuments of
any kind in his writing.
CUES. What is the distance from San Luis Potosi
to Saltillo?
Ans hundred leagues. (Mr about
260 miles.)
Cross -eramination.-Mr. BRADLEY exhibited
paper to the witness and asked him question aside,
which was inaudible.
-dns. He does not know it.
CUES Does he know Senior Don Manuel Veraste-
gu?
Ans He knows him by sight
CUES. Does he know his handwriting?
-Ans He does not.
CUES. Does he know Gutierrez, his secretary?
Ans. He does not; neither does he know his |
hand.
Cues. Does he know the seal of the present pre-
feet of -?
Ans. He does not
CUES. understood yesterday that these papers
were shown Mr.. Navarro in New York. Ask him |
he Uy biao kaEo WI.
Ins No.
CUES Were any papers purportng to have on
them the seals of the State of San Luis Potos
hibited to him?
Ans He says not Upon this business he has no
lurther advice or knowledge than order of the
Government to appear here, which he received
one day before he about to embark for Mexi
CO. He received it from the authorities of New
York.
Mr.: CARLISLE. Ask him if he has got that with |
him.
witness took from his pocket and exhibited a |
CUES. (showing the witness paper marked
No: 81 Did he not see that paper in New York Fl
Did he not that in the possession of Senior AFRO
yos?
Ans. No, he did not.
Ques When did he last visit the city of San
Luis Potosi?
Ans In November of last year he visited for the
last time the city of San Luis Potosi. His staying
in San Luis Potosi had been for short time and
frequent, ehCn year one month"; ana sometimes two
months he has remained there.
CUES. He has not remained there one whole year
at time?
ans. He has not.
CUES. In the year 1850 he certainly was in the
city of San Luis Potosi?
Ans. He says he was; for every year he has to
make journeys to Mexico. His house has also
some business in San Luis which it would be ne.
cessary for him to attend to.
Cues. He answered positively that he was there
one year - in 1850?
Ans. He was.
Cues Did he have any negotiations, any bust
ness which required the use of the seals of the
State OF San Luis Potosi, in the year 1850?
ans He does not remember.
Ques Can he now state positively that he did
see the seal Of the State of San Luis Potosi during
the year 1850?
Ans. 1t ia not possible to give assurance of that
By MIR. BRADLEY. Ask him to state when he
left San Luis Potosi for this country?
Ans. About the middle of November he left San
Luis Potosi for the city of Mexico. He remained
in Mexico until the I'd of January, and on the 9th
he believes, he went on board the packet Trent
He corrects himself, and says it on the 5th or
9th.
Ques. Does he know Don Jose Antonio Barra.
gan?
Ans. He knows him.
l,,ss Had he uot hack Ia no c;ty Of Co, ~,