The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-01-27


Senator. e well Us himself, was a.praotcal man.
M. SEWARD said he had received note from Mr..
Clemens, asking to have the subject postponed.
Mr. MASON, (dem) OF Va, said that before this
question was disposed Of he desired to be heard for
an hour. 1t was stated that the British have colo
nized the Bay Of Islands, and recently the Belize, in
Honduras. If this were so-and the information
came in shape not TO be doubted-there would be
practical issue presented. 1t matter of great
interest to the people of the United States and had
never before been brought practically home to them
Mr.. GwIN asked il it was intended TO propose any
practical legislation on the subject. Ifso ne sup
posed it would have to be done by an amendment to
the Appropriation bill.
Mr. MASON said that the Presidents message,
communicating the correspondence on the Clayton
treaty was before the Committee on Foreign Rela-
TONS In that message the President stated that he
had no information as to whether any colonzation
had taken place or not. Bat information had been
received in other forms, which was sufficiently
thentic perhaps to justify Legislative action. II it
should be true as stated that Great Britain has es-
tablished colony at the place designated, whether
in violation Of the treaty or not one thing was
tain, that colony must be discontinued.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD, (whig) of KY, hoped the matter
would be referred, and let the debate follow the
report.
Mr.. SHIELDS, (dem.) of H., said he desired to
speak, but would consent to any disposition of the
subject the Senate might make
Mr.. BUTLER, (dem.) Of 5. c., was in favor of re-
ference, and report of the facts Of the case, upon
which a judgment could be made. He was not pre-
Mr.. DAVIS, (whig) Of Mass, desired to have re-
port upon the fact whether not Great Britain had
not, in her treaties with Spain, renowned all claim
over the Bay of Islands and the Belize II she had
done as he thought was clear she had no right to
colonize them. These matters ought to be examined
and reported upon.
Mr.. CAss contended that this doctrine was emf
nenty practical question.
Mr.. DAWSON, (whig) of Ca, said this question
was assuming an apparently portentous shape. The
language Of the Chairman of the Committee on For
egn Relations, that he believed Great Britain had
tablshed colony, and II so it must be discontinued
would be read everywhere with the deepest interest
and concern. He in favor Of a reference of this
subject in order that the Senate might get all the
facts Of the case and enable the Senate to act under
standiDgy. Before debating the question further,
let have all the facts touching this alleged colo
nization in Central America. No one knew anything
about it. He considered these filibustering resolu
tons unbecoming the dignity of the Senate. These
resolutions that will or will not do certain things
undercerain circumstances were the proper mode
OF proceeding for this government Let circumstances
transpire let the facts be known aud authenticated
and then act becomes the nation TO act, on these
facts The Senator from Virginia desired to be heard
one hour on the subject of colonization. How could
that Senator speak the subject without full know
ledge of the facts !?
Mr.. MASON said the message of the President was
before the committee and on this they could report
and probably would report. The resolution before
the Senate embraced general principles of great in
terest and importance concerning American policy.
Tie debate on the whole subject could be continued
the resolution and the committee could still pro-
gress with their examination of the subject before
them, which involved but one OF those principles.
Mr.. DAWSON asked what could be the advantage
OF debating the principles announced in the resolu-
ton, which were firmly fixed in the hearts Of the
American people, and upon which differed!
The Senator stated he 'he believed this colony had
been established, and that, if so, it must be discon-
tilred.' What did this mean but that the people
must be prepared to meet a war? He did not be-
lieve there any danger of Could it be that
the libustering and seeking portion of Congress
desired to commit the majority in favor of general
principles and then apply certain facts, and require
them to vote for war, or back out from the general
assertion? He saw necessity for this resolution
and hoped it would be referred.
Mr.. HALE-"I move the Senate adjourn which
was agreed to.
House OF Representatives.
WASHINGTON, Jan 20 1853
NEW YORK BRANCH MIST HlIL
The House resumed the consideration of the bill to
establish Bra nch Mint in New York.
cohdcludea s GshiGi qfomm yycsferday he mentioned
certain facts to show that the mint at Phila lephia
incompetent and, further, that there has been dcbasc
ment Of gold in New Orleans under its supervision
He insisted that the mint has such efficiency purity
and character is claimed by the gentleman from
Pennsy vania (Mr. Chandler) The mint costs foar,h
Of million Of dollars annually hundred thousand
gent fund sequesered flched in SOME way from tbe
deIositers 81 bullion and then the mint before
Congress and asls for s4s COO disgusting ana mysty
ing is eyTavagan expenditures. the mint at Phila
cell ma coined the quarter eagles demanded by the
country aggregate coinage would be not than
i've millions instead Of City millions in the
larger denomination Of coins Establish branch mint
IN New York, where tTothrd- of the revenue Is col
lectod, and where most Of the gold bullion and coin in
tie hands OF emlgfants come and there would be
this exira,agant loss OF interest. Allow New York to
have the pickings and steaings and the silver taken
from erflf Eli ar,@n
in Mr. Hunters b and she win not call upon Congress
for single cent OF appropriation for the support OF
the branch mint; but, the contrary he had but
little doub, would return the government con
siderable premium il the establishment be estab
lshed under such circumstances. He then defend
ed New York from the charge OF being Gle
mosynary beggar IN large population there
can be found dishonorable men, elsewhere, but
nothing can DC said against the large Of her enter
prisng citizens who lie proceeded show had made
many sacrifices TO advance the interests and promote the
credit and honor OF the country among them such great
works as the Panama Rarcad-the wonder Of the age.
The question then taken, and the House refused
reject the bill, b. yeas 30 nays o.
The stated the question on ordering It TO be
engrossed anu read third time.
Mr.. Brooks moved the previous question, which was
seconded.
Mr. CBASDiFR (whig) Of Pa moved that the bill be
referred to Committee Of the Whole the State OF the
Union.
The SPEAKER said the main question had been ordered
t9 be put on ordering tie bill to be engrosed and read
third tine.
Mr CHANnIER.-Has the bill been engrossed2
The srEASFR-Ihe eng1 ossment has not yet been
dered.
M GocrFSow, (Nhig) Of Ne, moved that the bill be
tabled, which was negutged BY yeas 49, nays s6.
Mr. HorsToS, [dem) Of Ala, inquired whether the
morning hour had expired2
The SPE8KER replied that it had
Mr.. Houston moved that The House go into Committee
OF the Whole the State Of the Union
The sPEAgII said the House having ordered the main
question it must be put, and this rode all other
motions, except 10 adjourn or lay on the table
The House BY yeas Sc TO nays So refused 10 order the
bill 10 lie engross ed for a third reading.
1.-The following is the vote =
YE4s-Bessgs Abercrombie, Allen, Appleton Ashe
Eabcock BarreTe, bartlett Bennett Bowie Bovine Bren
ton Brooks, Brown, Burroughs Caldwell, Campbell or
H., Chapman, Clark, Cobb Conger, Darby Dean Duane
Floyd Freeman, Ca lord Gentry Goodrich German Grey
HAD, Hart, Iiaws Hascan Haven, Hcan Hubbard IIors
ford Howard, Howe, Of v. Y, lngersoil Ives Jenkins
johnson Of AkaEsa Jones OF n. y, King of r. T., King
Of y. T., Little, Lockhart Martin Meacham Minor
Molcny. Murray Majors, 0lda. Penn Penniman. Phelps
Preston, Richardson, RIDDLE Robbie Robinson, Russell
Sackett. seheimerhorn, Schoocraft Schoonmaker Soy
OF n. Y, Seymour Of Conn, Smart Smith snow
s.nr-.nr Of s.n..hnr.- ~ ~ " s.arl.a,-