The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-02-19

A. don't know what you mean
Question repeated. with same answer.
Mr Whlting-NeU we won't press IT. Wen 50 on -
something else
9. When did your intimate acquaintance commeness
a. nave already answered il in substaace-since sfss
came on the stage.
q. When that2
A. have already said do not know.
T. Did she come on the stage early as 1SV
A. | think she did
Q. As early thirty eights
A. don't know 1t might have been much earlier
q As far a. you know. when did she diep
A. think in AZ or AS.
q Did you ever travel with her
Q. To Whist places?
Q. From New York to various placess
Q. From New York to BostonS
Mr. Blunt objected Objection sustained and exceptsc~
Sxon.
Q. From New York to Albany
Mr. Blunt objected to it, at any other time than 1Si3
Mr.. Clark-The question is put in the general form
The Court sustained the Objection in that form and
cepton was taken.
y We're you ut any time on board any steamboat ira
yelhDg with her anywhcrer
Mr. Blunt took the objection except as to q
steamboat on the North river within the trs specified
by Doty.
The Court sustained the objection and exception was
The following questions were then put successvely;
the same objections taken to each and similarly disposed
OF -
Were you at any time travelling on any river, with
Miss Josephine Clifton board steamboat having
state rooms on the promenade decky
hng with Miss CliftonS
Were you not at any time on beard steamboat the
North river when Miss Clifton on board, in which
steamboat there the promsn ade dec
How many times since you have arrived at the ago Of
puberty, have you travelled with Miss Clifton?
How often, since yon arrived at the age o. puberty
have you travelled with her on the North rivers
often since you have arrived at the age Of puberty
have travelled with her the North river board
a steamboat having state rooms2'
Did you ever go up the North river with Miss Jose
OQrd fhp Sfa upnlna Srall Haas
Did go up the North river, board lie steam
boat Swallow or any other yoSrselfS
Were YOU at any time in any steamboat, in the same
stateroom with Miss Clifton?
Haye you occupied the room witl,Josephins
Clifton?
Have you occupied ths same bed with hsrY
Mr. Blunt IN addition to the objection lass: sustained
ground Because if relied on at all he maintained it was
Irrelevant o! was put for the of shaking the
grading him the witness had right to refuse to answer
any question which on its face was so calculated.
Mr.. Whiting said the gentleman had right argue
The Court had ruled it out and they had excepted
Mr.. BIuT knew his duty and would do it. and the de-
fenans counsel would take their with their
Mr.. Clark--we alege it is pertinent aud material to
the Issues here There are more than onA Witnesses,
may be-
MIR. HUNT repeated his proposition and was proceed.
ing
Mr.. Cark-The witness could not refuse to ansvsr.
Therois no crime imputed to him. and the doctrine has
exploded that witness refuse answer question
fencing TO degrade him, when il is material to the ISSUE
MIR. Whiting said they had objacted ON the ground az
irreevancy and the Court had sustained it. They only
Blunt wouM nevertheless do his duty as law o.a,sr<
in advising that Court and Jsry upon the points OF law
which might arise and he proceeded support his posi-
zion by an abls but lengthy Argument citing ana
Mr. CarkWe always glad to see the District Attor.
ney in the place which he is with such ability and cr-
dit but We do think it is hardly necessary where the.
chief officer of the State present conducting prosecu
ton, for the District Attorney OF the city county to-
interfere to protect the Court against its ruling
in ,a~n
to all We had supposed the question was material on
the witness, and secondly showing that what Datr
vas the truth. If this not at once nS
argument would make il more, Tho other rule was
that where man became public prosecutor, and where.
circumstance was erial, it not enough that il
involved little disgrace hurt his PRIDE to excuse him
from answering the great object Leing the elucidatiou
Of truth He understood the Court 10 sustain the obiec-
tion on the ground that
Mr. whtng-we don't want Tia grounds; upon both
grounds the objection is sustained, and take ex-
ception.
O. Have you had sexual Intercourse With Jos ephina
| Clifton?
Mr. Blnnt-That is, in fact he same thing Of coure
| We object, sir, on the same grounds.
Objection sustained, and exception taken.
Q. Did you know Doty beforei
A. Not till at the court aouse; never saw him before.
| in fact, never heard of him.
Q. Have you not said Mr.. Forrest .hat if you could
get Doty into the State prison, you would be willing to
| 20 to hell-or words Ike theseg
a. Never-that would he willing to go to hell.
q Did you not say during the trial of those ssuea
between yourself and your WIFE and in the room where
the trial was prooeedngS '~
A. never said such thing
@ you net say in action with another nane
Witness. w hat manp
Q. Any maay
a. don't remember
| nor, oConor and Dotv
| A. don't remember may have used strcng express
sons ssith regard to noty, but did not say that
Q Did you not say so in the presence Of Mr. Ackerman
and Mr.. Brown
A. don't remember; may have said he ought to 90
there because felt and knew that hs had perared him
| self.
Mr.. Forrest here wished to make some explanation.
His feelings very much outraged at the time and he
might have used some very strong expressions 70 Mr.
uoty and even the very expression named know (sad
he) felt could have said much more than that But
| do not remembert
| Mr. David r. f. Jones' Clerk of the SUPERIOR Court az
the city of New York swon-Recollec Doiy being sworn
on the trial between Mr. Forrest ana his wife, he was
sworn by laying his hand on the yble; knew II was !
Bible for he had opened 1t seve-al times never rsmeu-
bered examining particularly He produced the minutes
Of the court The entry % Doiy being sworn on the
l4th January, was in his own handwriting
Cross examinedead not Swear positively whether hA
was sworn py the upfted hand the Bible but hts
suoEe impression was it the Bible thought there
was no doubt that the book Bible there was no en-
try to show which way witnesses were sworn and as
general thing he would not like to undertake say which
II was noty was recalled on the 10th, not
Mr. Cbatfed, Before he was recalled, was there any
| in 1882
Mr.. Whiting objected TO the question as leading
Question put--was there any evidence given the
subjectf Objected TO, and ruled out irrelevant
thing being shown to connect Doty or bring to his
| knowledge.
Cross enamind-Q Do you rccolect any other Witnesses
testifyng to Mr. Forrest and Miss Clifton being
board the steamboat together Objected TO- and ruled
out) O. Do you recoect that other witnesses besides
Doty testified that Mr. Forrest and Miss Clifton had been
on board steamboats, together under peculiar circu
ssncesS Collected to- and ruled ou-exceptions takenN
Adjourned till this Saturday. morning, At II o'clock
General P1erce's Vlsk to Governor Island.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD
sIRTn your paper Of this morning we were pained 10
see the report Of your reporter who described the reai
dent elects pcriious voyage to Governors Island In
small Whitehall boat. Now the boat was the usual one
used for that purpose by the boatmen perfectly safe
in the haIbor OF New Yorx; and furthermore that the
choice OF the nation safely carried and without am
risk, as all are by the Whitehall boatmen.
JAMIx