The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-03

House aud cannot agree 10 it, the point upoa which We
cannon agree must be lhrown out oil lhe bill II they will
not agree win US, we must throw il out; ii we caAnol
agree with lhem they must throw At have already
SAID ihat II The House 10 send an amendment here
ana call upon me TO assent TO conlIay my jude men
and said unless you do assent--whch is the Argument
Inow-ihe bill will be defeated would defeat it instant
Ily--l would not hesitate moment II would act upon
that principle IN regard TO the House.,I would act
upon The principle in this case. think we have
no right TO say 10 the House, rhe whole shall be lost
unless you agree with u.s. Sir these things ecpro-
cal. The two coordinate branches of The legislative
department have been provided most benefclay Tor the
county 70 operate as mutual checks upon each other
and lhe manner IN which they check each other is
whenever they cannot agree about particular
that measure must be losl Ii is wrong to bring in mat
efs about which we cannot agree aud say that those
dsageenens shall ba Tor defeating the provisions
about wh,eh we do agree This is mode of forcing
the other House 10 surrender their homes, aud ndepen
sn opinions and cannot agree 10 any such course.
Wnen The matter was first started. felt very much in
cned to vote Tor the motion of the senator from Texas
elt almost determined TO do il, until heard The gentle
man IRON Mississippi, and began 10 hak about the
ter, and TO anayze in all lis bearings When began
10 anayze IT, become thoroughly satisfied that the only
way IN which you manage this appropriation hili
wheh Is an aggregate OF thousand things, is 10 separate
each tin and lei Il stand upon its merits, tax
HE nine hundred and ninety ynne out of the thousand
about Whlch we do agree, aud give up the ,housand,h
about which cannot agree. We must axe out oil the
bill everything about which agree, and leave
those matters to stand about which we do agree Tha,
saves the Independence OF both branches and the prop
eT course 10 be pursued.
The House OF Representatives have, as understand,
aske second committae OF conference Will ii be re-
speciiul Tor us to say TO them that we will not grant it
that we will not your request II appears 10 me
that would hardly be respectful to decline meeting
request WHICH sent here without any oesce that
Mr.. DAVIS. think we are rather likely 10 be drawn
into error by assumption merely II is assumed that
ndigny has been offered TO the Senate that there has
been an invasion OF our rights the par of the House
think that before make up controversy with The
House, worth while 10 whether this really
So The two houses disagreed upon certain portions OF
the civil and diplomatic bill A committee OF conference
was asked, and conceded by both houses. report
agreed upon by that committee, which adopted by
the Senate, but rejected by the House The first ques
tion then, Is had the House the right to act upon such
report as thaS the doings of the committee OF
conference final and conclusive in themselves There
no proposition palmer to my mind than that the acts and
doings OF such committee are sull open 10 be passed
upon by the respective houses. They may take them
INTO consderaon and may agree 70 them or reject them
as they please That think strictly within The par
liameniary rule. Then, what have The House done !?
They have taken this subject into their consideration
and having considered H. they disagree with the committee
OF conference; and they send their decision upon that
question TO the Senate, and ask for another committee
believe that is the language The only dsrespect which
can see upon looking at this proceeding is The implca
ton which arises out OF the fact OF asking Tor another
committee II they simply ask Tor another committee, |
can see no lmpropIie,y IN a. The proceeding 10
be according 10 parliamentary usage and in conformity
with the rules Of bodies OF this description, and
toned by parliamentary law but the asking for another
committee Is any reflection upon the committee appointed
already, and IS TO be esteemed such there lies the
dignity and the whole OF it, do suppose that If any
such language is employed, it intended TO convey
excep,ionabie sentiment or opinion do not think il
intended 10 have any such reflection the committee
heretofore appointed and ii was, should be one OF
the last men 10 agree 10 IT.
| WI, sir, twhat is now proposed to be done The
honorable senator from Texas proposes TO refuse the
quest OF the House. That would not be my way OF pro
ceedlng 20 into no inquiry as TO motives here. Ii is
not Tor me 10 Judge what feelings what sentiments, or
what motives may have Influenced the House way
or the Other The question s Is the proceeding on lis
lace apToper onel-is II parliamentary Ii fad it 10
be that is enough for me- that shows me that there
has been no invasion OF right no indgny offered. Then
II IS appropriate and parliamentary on the part OF the
House 10 disagree TO the dongs OF such committee, an
to send message conveying their decision 10 us Ill all
well enough And what ought we to do is
sue as that! Why, SIR we ought 10 yield 10 the request
but send The same as we sent before into confer
ence with the House; send the committee 10 meet
them let them confer together and ascerain-for that
Is the object oil The conieteRce-wheher anything new
has sprung up, whether there any difficulties which
were unto reslen when the last committee oi conference
met, and which can be reconciled between the two
houses Why, SIR, we had example OF this sort thi-
very day, and on the second trial The two houses
reconcied and the Senate, instead OF losing by that STEP
gained some amendments which they lad made TO the
] ol and which were excluded by The former decision
IL there IS no ndgnliy giered TO the Senate. II there j.
no violation OF parliamentary rule IN all this then what
objection thtte be " sending eonieees any
committee which the House may thnk proper TO appoint
wond send, 10 order that might not be nlslner
peled or misunderstood by the language employed the
committee which we sent before 10 meet the com
mlt,ce OF The House That is the which would
/ recommend.
/ Mr.. BRIGHT This il very impoFlan, question: Mr.
President and think the mos important point in il il
that we start right The path is very clear one, to ny
mind SO lar the Senate is concerned the civil and
diplomatic appropriation bill is law. The Senate ap
pointed committee, which met similar committee on
the part oil the House These committees agreed to
ommend certain course o action. The committee on
the part OF the Senate reported their action and the Sem
ale confirmed Il By their vote; the committee the part
concur ~ II What was the next motion Why, they
followed uby motion TO reconsider, which has failed ~
the House. Now, s what Is the proper remedy Tor ne
IS not the motion made by the senator from Texas, but
II to reconsider the vote by which he Senate agreed 90
the report of the committee Of conference III the Senate
that they are satisfied with the bill il that they
u0 disposed 10 alter, amend, change in any respect
II the Senate recoRsders the vote adopting the report
VIII then be whu their province to recede from all their
amendments, TO concur with the House the amend
ments which they have made 10 amendments, 70
appoint another committee Of conference; but until the
Senate do reconsider the adopting the report OF the
committee, there y TO my mind no parliamentary law au-
lbouzipg the appointment OF another committee.
MIR. HUNT Will the gentleman allow
meuti ! think my friend from Indiana is mistaken IN
supposng that do all of these things, any
them now. lie will remember that we had second
committee OF conference the deficiency ball and the
whole subject was then open much as u was The tst
time We made new report and one which was differ
eut from the first The whole subject IS open after we
| appoiA second committee. Let me present HIM one
other view, and think he will that the report OF
committee OF conference ~ conditional II is, that TIE
Senate will do certain things if The House will do
tain other lhngs but the House has refused 10 do those
things, and therefore not held TO anything 10 the
I repor OF the committee OF conference Oar action was