The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-08-02

TIE TuzkasA Question IN the British Pazsia-
In the HERALD Of Friday morning, we pub
lished the substance Of Lord John Russels reply to
Mr. Disraeli, delivered in the House Of Commons,
of the remarks made by both the honorable member
and noble lord upon that Occasi0n:-
MI. DIsRAELI said: wish to refer to . question |
asked the noble lord, the member for the city OF
London, on Monday in reference to q circular des-
patch Of Count NesselDdes which arrived that day.
then mentioned that in that despatch il was stated
that the occupation of Turkish ports by the COM
bined fleets Of England and France was considered
by Russia as naval occupation, analogousin charac-
ter to the military occupation of the principaties by
the Russian army. alD said, that in that despatch
it was stated that when that complete satisfaction was
granted to Russia, by the Porte, which was her DUE
and when the pressure OF two maritime powers had
ceased, then the Emperor would withdraw his forces
while he very justly felt it his dnty to question the
propriety Of the first allegation that l alluded
fleets was naval occupation of the domin-
ions Of the Sultan, said with regard to the
second statement, that his impression was that
! was not authorized in the Interpretation / put on
the circular despatch. 1t has since been stated in
another place, by colleague of the noble lords that
that observation of his was inadvertently made. 1t
was pardonable inadvertence, for the document
had only just arrived but the Secretary OF State, in
another place. took the opportunity on that occasion
of declaring that the intention of her majestys
ministers not to accede to - conditions which were
pressed IN that despatch in s.sh peremptory man
ner and that they would not for moment in their
management of these important proceedings, admit
as primary condition that the combined fleets of
England and France should leave the ports alluded
to- Assuming as do that these negotiations are
now only formally, and not virtually, pursued-as
Stunning that they have arrived at what is called a
dead lock-and believing, as do that it would be
great advantage t, the public service, in that case
that there should be discussion on this important
question in both houses Of Parliament (hear,
hear)-I wish, therefore, to know if the noble lord
has any objection to fix day on which the honora-
BILE member for Aylesbury lMr. Layard) may bring
forward the question in the House Of Commons.
(Hear, hear)
Lord J. RUssELL-In answering the right honora
BILE gentleman, must refer to the circumstances of
the answer given by me on former day. The right
honorable gentleman then asked me certain ques
tons with respect to circular despatch which had
then only recently reached the government had
then only had the opportunity of reading it in q
newspaper in very cursory manner and had not
made myself completely master of its contents. l
therefore answered the right honorable gentleman
with regard to impression of the Interpretation to
be put on that part of the document which said that
the Russian troops would be removed from the prin
cpalites when the pressure put by the presence of
the combined fleets in the Turkish ports had been
taken of, by saying that could not believe it was
intended by the Russian government to make that the
condition Of the evacuation of the princpalities.
said 80, not only from not perceiving it quite
distinctly laid down in the paper, but from
thinking impossible that two things so totally I'M
like should be put0n par, or that the Russian 60
vernment should deem themselves at all justified in
demanding that the fleets of the English and French
should leave the Turkish waters before they evacu
ated the principaties- in the one case the
English and French fleets were in the waters of an
allied power and were there, not for the purpose of
putting any pressure that power of injuriAg it
in any way but only to be ready in that power
should feel itself justified in calling for the assistance
OF its allies on the invasion Of its territory In the
other case, that of actual occupation by the Rus
sian troops Of principalities belonging to Turkey,
could see no similarity or comparison between Them
and / could not think that person of the expe-
rience and sagacity Of Count Nesselrode could afx
his signature to document declaring that that
was the determination of the Russian govern
ment Admitting, then that the words bore on the
face Of them the Interpretation which the right hon.
gentleman gave to them, come to the question
which he has just asked me. have to state that he
is mistaken in his supposition that the negotiations
on this subject have come to dead lock- (Hear,
hear) On the contrary, both the English and
French governments have considered that there are
propositions which might be acceded to by both Rus
STA and Turkey, which might consequently be the
means of obtaining pacific termination for this
fortunate occurrence (Hear, hear.) Whether or
not these hopes may be justified, cannot be known
Immediately; it must take some time before we can
learn from st. Petersburg what is the view taken Of
any mode of adjustment which England, France, or
Austria may approve. While such is the state of the
negotiations, think 1t would not be desirable that
the honorable member should bring his motion be-
fore the House. (Hear)