The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-14
T iiennlal Convention orthe Protestant Epls-
cOpaI Church.

Of Vermont assisted 5y Rev Dr. Ford Of Georgia, who
read the Lessons.
The Chairman, the Rev DR.. Creighton, having taken
his seat the minutes Of the preceding day read anil
approved
Then the special committee the admission OF new
diooeses, through their chairman Rev Dr. Coke Of Con
nectcut reported in favor Of placing Oregon Immediately
under the supervision Of missionary bishop The fol
lowing resolutions we're appended 70 the report
Resolved That House Of Bishops 30 respectfully re-
quetcd 70 nominate this house suitable person TO %
Resolved That ke House q Bishops be respectfully re-
elected missionary bishop to Oregon. -.
moved % lay the report on the table Tor the pre-
sent
The motion lost .,...s.,
The question then put the adoption and carried
The Committee on "a Mons entrui ted with the suoect
as to number of parishes to form doces gave
in substance the following report s..s - ,rv ,srri
r 10 s breS any m aeSs which shall be entitled to al
mission into union With che GensrI Osiat1@ rresbyter
and six reguaTy ted to- inquire into the ex-
ajisncv az amending article VI. of the constitution,
ported In favor OF subs Euting for canon VI the follow
The mode oftryng bishops and other cergymen shall be
provided BY tho General Convention None but bishop
rradation from the ministry on any clergyman whether
The Hon MURRAY HOFFMAN then and addressed the
house ask leave TO withdraw the resolutions previously
offered by him in regard TO Bhop Ives in favor of the
canon reported from the House OF Bishops
The convention granted the honorable gentleman the
privilege asked, and the resolution Withdrawn.
The canon from the House of Bishops which then
read, is follows
cASoT ABANDONMENT or THE COMMUNION OF THE
CHURCH. BISHOP, PRIEST DEACON.
al l p s Ii asae 81 Gs sa
after abandon = either " an open renunciaon Of the doe
admission any regoas body in communion with the
aeo as spoed L al afeats and ourposes aud shall there
upon he depoed presbyter or BY the
committees sad bishop By the presiding bishop With the
the majority o. the members Of the House Of
Bishop AID rotice such deposition shall be given in
Mr. DUNCAN OF Ioa one of the Committee on Canons
who had previously presented minority reporthe sub
stance Of which i embraced in the following resolutions
attached TO itand who subsequently withdrew it. then
addressed the house
Resolved That take upon himself the office Of
" the sovereign power 81 the Church granted the mode
3 That the election person the office Of bishop by
ferrng Jurisdiction doces but such election
that tie sc he Clerical and
Lay Delegates that e the Standing Committees az proy
the Of the House of Bishops necessary to the vi
s. That when person duly consecrated by the lawful
thorty Of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United
States Jurisdiction him ganzed do
cess said incumbent be deprived Of said office qr
T @f N 1 for the gvs power
Church . progde " canon law for he trial Of bishop Tor
though such canon be subsequent to the commission OF the
That is competent for bishop the hand
eanenes t h lind them torether by the election and
consecraon q bAei, and his taking upon himself such
That andsr The e3 g LEGISLATION Of this church "a
Sishcp can only be created BY DEATH resignation canon
oay and accepted and By deposition from tae office of
Instead Of the above Mr. DrSo4Snow offered the follow
ingas substitute
Resolved, That the fact Of the resignation Of L. Ives
D. D. e the jurisdiction Of the dioeess of North CAROLINA
docess and not the House Bishops according
requirement o. the canon on the subject OF wa:
be transmtted to the Of BISHOPS and that they may
act upon il as reclamation that in the opinion Of this
house dioeess North Carolina having proceeded
doeess before the RESIGNATION Of L. s. Ives had been accept
be caused BY the resignation being accepted and the sqbs
9uent consent OF the house by the requisite signing of the
by The House Of Bishops
Upon this resolution the gentleman made long speech
showing the greatness the church. and hoping that the
tirae would come when they could say in triumph sQae
rsqo in ferris qls Aos.if nan ptera lott'f'.,
Here several TO speak. when Mr. TALcoT to
point Of order The resolution Of the lay delegate from
New York Withdrawn, and argument upon them
out of order
The Guar decided the discussion in order inasmu III as
he before The house contained the principles
- the resolutions o. Air. Hoffman.
Hon. MUERAT HOFFMAN, made explanation. stating
he analogy between the resolutions he had Offered and
de canon under discussion.
Mr ErNclS SAID tia. lie could recognise three
ola House Of Bishops he eheerfully acknowledged their
legislative and judicial character; but ceunsl he
knew them Tie reviewed the argument of the dele
gate from North Carolina (Iudge Run,) relative to the
law OF bcany as Hast alton Of the North Carolina
case The North Carolina delegate contended that if
contract second marriage while his first wife is
living such marriage null and void and requires
legal sentence 70 make it So If such was the law in
North Carolina he happy to that it not in
louisiana If married there and married
tier who ignorant Of the former contract
impua could for that be cast her character
and such age woed bear legal fruits relative TO the
property acquired Granted that the il the dele
gate from North Carolina represents it. viz that Bishop
Ives has submitted to Rome what is the result
v8rcy No-by means, but an offence. He could
not vote for the proposed canon becaui he agreed with
the gentlemen from New York, " that 1t was Great
ing offence" The act of itself offence.
He should like the spectacle of the Protestant
Episcopal Church going around when the law bid her
around and North Carolina waiting when the Law bid her
~it. But there relief for North Carolina Yes,
relief, large, comprehensive and sufficient The fact OF
the letter Of Dr. Ives having been sent to the Convention
of North Carolina instead Of to the House Of Bishops
was in his opinion, error only Of form The same
also pronounceS such act P-e Jrc0 judgment
He declared that their constitution did not invest them
with any power TO declare that any state Of facts shall
Gust out of his franchises. He pronounced the
Protestant Episcopal Church the great conservative in
duence Of the country and rather Than that she should
do anything in the wrong way he would prefer to see her
right stricken Do His proposed resolution con-
veyed that view Of the case and what objection could
there be to that In Dr. Ives letter his for
signing forth the House Of Bishops sitting
for the reception Of such designations, could have
hesitation in accepting that resignation, and declaring
the diocese vacant They wanted no new law to meet the
They had law at the present time that covered
the whole ground. Bishop Ives himself well knew to
whom that resignation should be senhe knew that the
TO send IL 10 those whom he had ecclesiastical
troll lie simply confded it to their
Upon the close of Mr.. Duncan's speech Rev. Mr. Cox,
OF Georgia; Judge Chambers Of Maryland, and several
other gentlemen addressed the House upon the question
tHder consideration.
The Rev. Dr. VNTcv, Of New York, took up canon
vich had time before been offered substitute
the canon under debate which reads as folows:-
sAHos OF A MINISTER aENovNofNe ASD ABANDONING
MINISTRY or THIS CHURCH.
Sec LII any minister Of this church, not being Bishop
vanst whom ecclesiastical proceeding insti
uted shall declare IN whiting to the Bishop Of the doeess 70
which lie belongs ecclesiastical authority for the
rial Of clergyman where there i Bishop 70 the
Standing Committee that he tho ministry Of this
intend TO oeate Ia future in OF
the Offices thereof IL shall be the duty OF The Bishop or ec-
authority aforesaid where there Bishop
Standing COMMITTEE record the declaration sade;
provided that the ecclesiastical authority 70
whom declaration made, may, discretion torbenr
70 thereupon for space Of time OF not more than sig
months duing Which time the party may withdraw his Do
caration
And 10 case tie declaration aforesaid be recorded afore
eod m shall be the duty q the Bishop dcpOss tho person
70 declaring rom Tie ministry and 70 pronounce and record
IN the pItsAte 81 tN0 Crgym that the said
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