The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-11-24

Before Assistant Aldermen Barker and MoConksy.
Chief Engines Of the Fire Dspsrmsnt was resumed yes
terday afternoon, In the City Hau, at three o'clock.
i.rse number Of persons were present Abraham van
comnsncs building engines in 1885, At No l4s Essex
bailding them my account have since been
nected with the firm Of Van Ness and Torboss for
carried on the business since left aid not profess to
have any IL terest, only far employed there.
Van Ness was agent for the firm. O. Did you receive
Collected to by counsel for the plaintiG) Witness
declined TO answer.
O. Have you told any person persons that you
had sold out your interest in the frm9 A. will give you
the whole none. O. Did you sell out your in
cannot tell what trsnsprsd between Mr.. Van Nssr and
myself since Was last examined had general
saon with Mr. Van Ness at his house the night before
last and last night Did you have any conversation
with Mr. Van Mesa to what you testified to already
(overrulsd.) A. ! had conversation with Mr.
M Nan Ness as far as can recollect; plans Of the
capstan were drawn conddentially for me these are
thes same plans; journeyman mechanic skilled in the
business If engine building drew them, think an en-
CINE does not work steady with new than with an
old capstan the piston rod does not work stsader in
the old be properly constructed the power
to work the and the is required to be about the
same the difference would hardly be perceived unless in
very fine apparatus first heard of this caps.an Gar
In the spring of 1851 James Torboss and Mr. Kurtz
surgeon of the ship told me OF it, have not heard Of
Kurtz for year so was handed plan Of the mode
cept Torboss and Kurtz the first drawing saw OF was
Mr.. Carsons; had no, conversation With Mr. Carson
about the cspstan before its construction to know
LEDGE understood from Kurz that he had the most OF the
planning of capsan Kurt Torboss and Nan vess were
the only persons concerned did not know that Carson
had thing to do with it. Mr. kurz has frequently said
that Carsons getting patent for an impositon Mr.
Torboss rdculed the ea Of Carson claiming it they said
1t worked well it was Mr. Torboss's opinion that
Eegine Company No. 81 generally dissatisfied with
my doing the work. Engine q succeeded very WELL after
ALL in my Judgment there were complaints that she
7 hoad IN oOqfa
1have Carson receive money or check for go
from w. g. Tarboss think it for Engine No. 13 that
the psan made; No. 10 built by contract; she
lion has been made Mr.. Bash foreman of No. Is at
the time; think have put in capsan for Harlem
engine for engine No. 49, and one for engine No.
think that the capstan building was in the speciica-
ton cannot be certain do not recollect If it were
extra JOBS speak Of Engine No. 3d. told the members
had nothing to do with IT. it in the specification
for building Engine No. IL the firm built the engine then
upon their responsibility 1T built upon the gene
raj interest of the company there was expectation
that the company would have it from the Common Coun
Gill; no party was responsible for paying for it, do not
think there definite order think Mr. McCorm sex
foreman OF No IT, gave order he ordered the capsan
to be put in; do not rcoect to have had converse
ton with him. but may have advised him to have
it put in; think Mr., Carson and Mr. Mccormack
came to about the building OF this engine don't
collect if M Carson ordered it to be built the company
believe satisfied with the engine; engine No. Al
also built with Carson capstan; it was not in the
specification SO to build it, portion OF company Al came
around and ordered it in the company ordered it, Mr.
Carson gave order; he had nothing to do with the
building Of it, the Corporation paid US for it, the engine
contracted for she built exhibited and then
bought engine Al did well could be expected; was
satisfied with her work. there may have been other
gines built but do not recollect them; may have
recommended the capstan in Them but cannot FAY
At this stage Of the proceedings the committee adjourn
ed until next Monday afternoon at three click,