New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-03-16
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could not be supposes 70 be interested TINS ilvegs
the City.
Mr. HEsDEE thought otherwise The dele
gstion from the City Of Nev-York the ONLY sppro
pirate persons to take up the Consideration Of this me-
neral coming from their Constituents. liproperiy
belonged 10 them and BE- wished % have the whole
responsibility with thnee members and their coustiru
ents II The action Of the members here i mt ssfac
tory TO their constituency, the be remeded II
the next election Members here nOt seCuzintsi with
tie ssirs oiNeEfork cauno judge wisely in regard 10
them.
Mr.. HoLLET denied any intention TO insult
the New York delegation. When he attempts DO that
hs language will be unmistakabe-ii viii be uttered in
no Questionable shape" he able 70 do thai, AMI
did not lack the disposition whenever he thought
needed.
Mr.. KENNEDY Sid if the people ofNeE-YOrk
who row hang sbOuf this Lei-lssure had discharged
Their duty ct home, there would be need Of their
phettiou. here Let them 20 back and through their
election which the proper tribunals their ap-
peal, correct the evils Of which they complain.
MIR. FORSYTH insisted that the Legislature
the place to correct the municipal evils Of New
York. IL can be effectively done nowhere else For
one he was determined 10 discharge his whole duty IN
this attempt TO purity the gross ooruPtons known to
exist IN New York
mittee which the House should select he bad doubt
the matter would be properly considered should either
proposal prevail.
Mr. WooD said select committee of FIVE, be-
composed Of three members from the city OF New York
and only two others-one from Albany and ons from
Buffalo. These latter represent large cities and may
be supposed 10 understsnd city affair.
MIR. RosE thought it apparent that this sub
ec should be acted upon by those representing the
people interested. The select committee alluded to
bad been appointed when mort Of the CRY delegation
absent and without consultation with them The
thirteen other MEMBER and their constituents, were
equally interested In this matter, and ougn not 20 be
setted without consultation with them. Mr. r said the
public Press had b en- suborned 20 abuse the Common
Council and blsckon their reputation de did not
charge those who had done this with intentional wrong
but they were not practical men-they hsd no actual
knowledge Of what they were discussing. Mr. K was
in favor Of thorough Efficient practical REFORM and not
that which u merely theoretical and useless.
Mr.. LOOMS regarded the subject which had
been brought before the House % much moment
He opposed 10 referring ell subjects affecting New
York 10 the delegation from that City In cases where
Atty l. 20 be affected and upon which the people
concerned all agreed, l. proper 10 e, the local re-
preventative arrange the matter 20 meet Their views
But here question in dispute. The appeal Il one de-
serving our aientoD-it from the City OF New
York and IL addressed 10 the entire Legislature, ani y
not merely appeal TO the City delegation Therefore
the whole ii use act upon II.
Mr.. ID. T. TAILOR entirely cOncurred With the
Mr.. NOBLE wished the House to remember
st the first petition for city reform had been presented
BY him and referred 30 the New York delegaton'
siler mature reelection and much labor that Committee
hHd perfected bill Incorporating the reform winch are
solicited and tie House IL asked 10 discharge TINS
Cor fniiiee and reject the bill which they have intro
duced. This was going backward and destroying al
that has yet been done toward securing reform
Mr. GALE's resolution was then lOst-i1 TO
A..
Mr.. WooD moved the reference to the select
committee of five previously appointed (Messrs Rus,
eel Smith and w. Taylor Of New York forsyth, oil
Albany, and Clapp, OF Enel -
MIR KTsNypY moved to amend BY adding TO
the committee ten of the New York delegation Lost
u to 50 .
Mr.. WooD's motion was carried-50 TO IL.
Recess 10 o'clock
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Mr. BURRoUGHs moved reconsideration OIL
the vote rejecting the motion OF Mr.. Gale. Carried, -
Mr.. b. said the people of New York, in elect
ing Representatives here had entrusted their interests
10 those representatives and ungr6cous thing 70
take from them the consideration OF this matter affect
ing their constituents when they do not ask % be re-
leyed Of taat responsibility.
Mr.. suAw,had not entered into these discus
sions 40 far A petition for amendment OF the
Charter Of NswYoTk had been gwen in charge OF Mr.
r. Smith who. presentingit moved ns reference 10
Select Committee. Another pettion on me same sun
ect IL presented by another member, on whose motion
N i referred 10 the New York delegation Among the
New York members controversy arose, a. To wh'ch
Committee should properly continue In charge. BON
Committees will 90 on with their inquiries One OF them
0he Selec, Commitiee) will instantly do so lie had pro-
rosed ii at this be done and when the select Com mttee
should report, he would move the reference OF taat 20
die New York delegation The interests Affected by an
Amendment of the Charter OF Eewlork are OF the ut
rnost magnitude " not TO be entered upon snly.
They were 20 legislate for hall mlhonot peOpie-or
hundreds OF millions Of dollars The subject must be
one nj mature and anxious consideration Inc delega-
ton bdngiI In the lGst memoTa had decinel 70 urge
s recomtne ndoton 10 either Of the conflicting commit
tees but left that mstler entirely n the hoa'e' -
them The bill brought forward be would reect "no'y
ii was no, what was wanted The better way for til,
House would lie not 10 reconsider any 'Vte Ou - 'o'
! both committees so on.
MIR. J RosE saw good reasons why Two CON
mitiees should not act upon the same quesnoh lIS
Man Of the Select Comuhtce Of i've, Ia beng reporter
~ the House and then referred % the New OK
,ion was taking circufous method OF legislation ne
K,wYork Delegation prepared 10 recommend tns
strongest methods Of preventing misuse Of Inc Pl'n'
/ funds - ".
Vol Dele,atiou No question should be referred to
the Delesftion from any locality where the SUBJECT Is
/ one Of controversy in the locality interested,
! MIR. G,LK said there was no mystery IN the
snxietv of the NewYork delegation on this question
The gentleman last up, days ago. had ss.d ne hAd
tscn urged 10 oppose the reference 10 the Ne"iorA
Se,in ON the ground that the majority were not 70
he trusted with the matter they beng uhi,t te n
| ,nee of the Common Council The Ne" iOfS ulem
hers are desirous OF taking up this maer ana " 10
rortipg bill TO prove the fslsiiy OF such Outrageous
/ sspersions upon mem. 80. rr o =,
MFR. LOOMS was willing 10 20 Tor reference "
/ the delegation from New-ioIk
Mr.. u. h. TArIoR-There are already four
bin. in the pockets Of four different members IL amend
The charter q New.York O..
Mr. SHaw-Then let us have four Commit
Mr. LrrrLryoHS moved TO lay the whole sub
/ isct on the table Carried
Mr.. Jackson, on leave moved that the sen
ate hall for the Consolidation OF Railroads DC maze tne
! spe,el order for Friday. Carried ,
Mir. LOOMS reported bills making the usual
-. fsfsl
Mr. ID. Il. TAYLOR moved 70 take up bis reso-
h,;ors respecting the Inaugural Address. Carried
MI. TAYLOR said, IN consequence OF the la'e
,,b,yrrh OF the Democratic party an important part
80 tsksu In the contest BY Newlork-t wac proper
tsst he Empre State should through its esisaiEIe
ke srstion Of the principles % winch ne Demoe
/ - ~ tbaf state stand committed We have ne