The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-05-11
mr ART UNION INVESTIGATION.


MAJ 10 The further In tina
.ssosl this morning At 10Y clock y. b. Taylor in
otsss examination of Mr. Monk continued by Mr.. Full
spsa exhibition did you .iuds 10 the paintings or Mr.
Owing TO . remark which here fell from the witness,
Mr. Fullerton conceived that he insulted and ap.
pealsd 70 the Chair when long debate was held oy the
Chair Fullerton and sness each accusing the other OF
norance. want Of decorum aud disfespect
Q-what other piciu es bad you r.feeace tos
Al can't state low l have not had time to
anime the catalogue Of different years. Au not ready
but will be during the Gay 70 furnish memoranda
rehscting upon the chaIa ;t-i oil Geo. W. Austin
Q-Stxte the Of the meritorous artists to
whom you bad reference IN your hr-t examinationSho
did receive less for his pictures they worth
because he compelled TO sell them for what he could
IA would like to have That question changed cut of
regard for the feelings VI those artists some oil the ar
tsts would not lde 10 have their naesn tue papers IN
such connection
Mr. FulIerton- insist upon TN. question: because it
arises out Of one Of the witness explanations IN pfe
vious examination.
This Art Union should be eAposrd has been opp'ess-
ing ardsts when its dury wss 70 ati them ,o.,,,
bMitness-For my own part an isaoy 70 iony
hesitate behalf OF the artrt-
Mr. lispp-fovertJ crime, II i general misfor-
tuus The question h, reiterated 70 the witness,
ns III for him 10 sns~oI
The Chair-This is tie question OF Dir Capp.
Cspp-I with u Assume per on,l responsibility
would this Ia adjourn till the other
member If the court shosld lie p,eent am sorry to
der with the chair IL regard To the proprey oil this
The Chsir-I think we have right to publish the
private position Ut those the world where many
not he to defend themselves but scattered all
over the world.
Mr.. FulertoD-G,ve US the of these artists who
have been c-d account their poverty that we
may meet this charge snow o. instance which goes
for d. prove this the part Ut the witness
know VI meriior,ous artist who poor, and who
sent bis paintings bee TO Coonei Warner Offering them
for less than their real w"rth 10 ensure sale
and CGlsnel Warner usgnau ni,usy back to that
their worth ana he sent TO ann more money than he
charged 1t Is kuowIe lee OF this fact that makes
anxious to have tbis question pressed
The CHAIR Tank there d way of arriving at
this que stor than BY spreading long array vf names
Il re the pubic, probably 10 Their injury.
MIR. Uapp-truoaoiy We had better relieve Mr. Monk
that he ma. Ie sh his recollection as to an 'wer the
question asked HIM this regard TO papers re-
heetiDg upon Sir Austin
Mr. Fulerton-I suggest the propriety Of ad
jourpiDg till SIR Ibaml lin The other member OF the
committee shall arrive. inis Testimony viii lead to the
production OF thee paintings befo tue court with tes
The Char aon't know a. that would effect any
thing none Of tts court being Judges OF pain lngs
caiving education.
oumittee adjourned till b Z. NJ.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Mr. Fnlerton-wnl the Clerk be Aiud enough to repeat
ths last ques iion Serrd this morning.
The Clerk then repeated the question IN reference to
tie merorOus Artists, who hso been coerced into the
ssle Of their pictures for ess than their real value
The Chairlth low pr per for me to state, that the
pclusions which arri,ed at this NOR ming are now un
cbapged suppoe would have understood me
t. have dshea that this question coald have been de
psnded, l only wish avoid calling other names
before the public that d,swa from privacy
did not desire DO now desire nor do believe this
committee cesires to araw b+fore the public
of gen tensn in New York account OF his poverty
Yet If insisted upon upon legal grounds it must be
answered DO not with to emhsrrass this committee or
Investigation by any upjus rules but the counsel IN
sit upon sn cannot refuse an answer on the
pa-t OF the witness.
Of our reputa,o ttan Of the affairs of the
artists How expected to iefute this charge of
oppression, ubess knoS the names OF the parties
alleged to have been oppressed.
The Chair-H il Is limited TO two three names,
drawing before the pubic ~hole array Of names; | un
derstood the AK the in the plural
n41oer. order the sithess 10 sLswer.
Ritness-One OF the artists u. w. c. B0utele; /
Can give more DxDes IL GU wish
Estate the names Of all others you may know,
Al can more fully from the bound volume Of
Bulletns for 1850 Thomas Doughty is another name;
Chair-Eet is pass TO something else This
number Is enough for al purposes Of IeutDg the witness
Thsse three enough the crediDty of the
Wines II can give If you wish.
Chair-well 60 on your counsel is willing to go
Witness-W. K Miller T Bursord B. Bossen, Vol
merriDg, Brue KIT NJ Culverhousen Walter Lib
hey, Heinrich, A. Wicks Ard H. j. Brent, all that
Q-what pic uIes o. Mr. Boutslle were purchased I'M
der thote ci, cums'apcess
Stream"
o-what paid for that, .eSrsrs. Mr. Coe told me
Q-were you pre- emit at the purchase of picture
A.-No Dir. II VAS at the time Of its purchase, on
the wall d the National Gallery.
Q-What was its value in your Judgment
Al cannot tell, its value q mere matter of OPT.
Own you give us the benefit Of your judgment as
TO its vsiues
n.n the committee Qavrrof. one hundred dollars
Q-Was that picture tributeds
Al believe Lot, sir.
at auctis ~
A.-Ibeiieve it was.
Q.-Wbat id it brpgf
Al do not kno~.
o.-Do you not know that brought less than three
hundred and fifty dollars.
Al do not
Q.-where did Mr. Bouteie live at that timer
A-Where his tesldence was at that time cannot
Q-How did the committee him into the sale of
this pctur.f
Al only speak of what Mr.. Coe mentioned. Mr.
Bouteue had offered II for sale to the committee at
greater psice than the pce paid him by
for 1t; Mr. Gee told that 1t wss good picture but
that he had opposed the purchase Of it because he
thought that $500 sass greater amount than Mr. Bou-
telie should have 10 his hs Dds at one time.
Obs this ali you know Of the Of Mr. Boutelle
into the sale OF tue Trout ctreauf"
Q-whst picture did the Art Union purchase Of Mr.
Vclmerrilg when It compelled him take less tnau it
Al cannot call to mind this mo nent any particular
painting but do know that Mr. Vomerring complained
M Fuiierton-Answer the question only
Q-we;e you ever present at the purchase of any pic
ture Of Mr. Volmerrng when such advantage taken
OF him.
Il have been present when Mr.. yolmerrin3 pictures
NAVE been purchased but c,nGot state at this time
any particular picture purchased under those circum
tsr
CHAIR would suggest to have time. We had better
tall tbs sc srtists IS Witnesses
Mr. FullertonI wish to cOndemn this witness out OF
~ own month
Witness You viii have nice time If you do It.
Dir Fuferton-l was addressing the ch air.
Q-Whst wss the advantage taken Of NJ yoImerringS
A-He as offered a certain auouot for his pictures
much lees than he asked foI them; directed tell
IN the price: h. TOLD that The price ruinoutly
low but that be coup.ed accept IT, but it WAS
right in comparison with the they besto.
ed other stts; he said be peeo 20 accept
because he wanted money.
OBS that all that took place In reference to that
transaction
A. am speaking Of numerous transactions.
OIL mean these uicturer ken o.