The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-11-26
The Alleged Election Fraud In the Twentieth
Ward.
CRoss'RxAxINATION OF WITNESSES.


Ward.
CROSS EXAMINATION OF WITNESSES.
The cross examination OF the witnesses who made an
oays against the inspectors Of the first poll district
the Twentieth ward who stand With mafeassnoe
In once In making out false returns in regard the
election Of Alderman of that ward took place before
justice Stuart last evening Some Of the witnesses had
kept private tally Of the woes for Alderman as they
were announced by the clerk Of the inspectors
that their adavits set forth Nothing however, of i'm.
porance was elected which materially altersd the d.
rest evidence
Franklin willard, sworn, says-I was present at the
poll of the Fr eeenca district Of the Twentieth ward
when the votes were canvassed the evening Of the
election; think the first ticket ,asassed the As
bly, next the State then the charter the school,
then the Senate: had watch with me, and do not
know the time when they began the canvass; William
Turn or and Hugh Mooney cansassed the charter ticket
Mr. hu,a had WORKED very hard during the day, and
said to the other gentlemen, Core want you to
want TO have anything to do with y do not recosc who
enpted the upon table, Mr. Turner counted the
si and handea them to Mr. Mooney whogave than
twist and passed them to Mr. Murray, who threw the
bundle bundles into the box there three
present all this time Mr.. Murray participated ia the
canvass o. s the other tickets Mr. Ryerson Mr. Samuel
Conklin AZ myself present during the whole
Of the charter ticket think police
the clerks and three inspectors inside of the coun
ter myself Mr. Ryerson and Nr Conklin were on the
counter and persons going In and out of the
constantly should judge that the table is inches
the counter most of the time; Mr. Murray nearest
me- Mooney at right farther off than array, and
the other inspector the opposite side of the ia
ble made tally of the votes, and have it with me- the
tally here marked exhibit No. and a. s." is the tally
which kept; could not say who Councilman
the "a tally OF split ticket Cummings III fuckers
called for Alderman this tally, as heard it, If the
name of tie Councilman called don't remember it
at the present tme there might have been hut did
not take note of it, Mr. Murray usually cal ed the Names
but do not think he did this be did canvass
the ticket dom remember nv OF the other pames of
p,li0 EA IT urha
canao ray which Of the two psc.ors called the name
felt interested in the result the ballot, because
Mr.. Tucker was my man: / had been out OK
politics for some time, and had engaged at the solcita
n of friends in behalf of Mr. Tucker; the Of
talsipg; don't iecolect hearing any name of C.
Tucker called off; il any such vote ha been called oil
and the, had been comment about it, should have
set 1t down to Cummings H. Tucker, but II here had
been comment shoui have abded the dec.son there
might have been votes called there TUCKER and if there
votes called / should have put them the
Tucker list; there votes called McConkey; at
the commencement of the vote they would call the
whole but after that they were not 10 particu
hr calling only the surname; this true for Mr..
fuckers well AS McConkeys tickets; it think
with other names on the ticket but did not change my
the regular TUCKER ticket and there other tick
cts which could identify by their Inducements could
Tucker " for Assessor, John ?. Banker;'' tickets
the night OF the Canvass which upon the indorse
ment appeared to be The last named ticket which
wer. counted as well as he other in my tally OF them
did not estimate them regular Tucker" ticke 5 in
my computation OF serenity. votes; I placed
Them among the lsas th ty four split tickets; have
ticket said to he been voted that day headed
For AID q Tucker the endorsement this latter
ticket is not ike the endor, ement the Bunker tick
ETY. o. the tickets the inside of, and know
they for Cumming e Tucker for Alderman and Bun
ker for Assessor and in that respect different from
for fuckers election with degree of ZEAL and
felt interest in his election did not feel much
interest for any other person and ga not pay as much
obe ed the in which these tickets
that OCCASION there something red during the
Canvass that aroused my attention, in respect to Mr.
Turner who, in doing one tally where there should
have been 10 tickets in it, thought there ii tickets
mac the remark that thought so, and Mooney count
ed them over ard looked over his shoulder and also
commenced to count the tickets when Turner told he
was sworn Officer and capable of doing his business
without my counting after him told him that did not
know there any harm in it, he said there harm
in it. Mooney couned the tally and found IL votes in it,
this tally the gular ticket for g. Tucker it
was the second or third tally counted thought there
II votes in the tally, p-evous to this and had
said SO to tie Inspectors do not think it possible
that The inspectors coy have called of tckss for c.
Tucker without my having noticed IL distinguished from
Cummings H. Tucker; the split ballots pu. the
wires after hey called thre were no ballots de.
Jared 10 be for Tucker in my nearnz put upon the
wires split tickets; Go not remember Of any ticket
being i .uNes of remark which the ni.ins of the
Names CT the candidates Only used did not
Iafe my taly with any eIss did har tbs clerks
stats the whole number Of votes; gave Mr. iney the
result Of my tally ii Just about the
completed Ieouid not tell how many icSets there
were vo'ed thsre guess there fye for Tucker
cia. k, kcCopkey ODonohus, and Martinez there we're
good printed splits these tickets the other
candidates. can't tell how many tickets there for
hcCoEhey and Oar agh; Mr Murray had conversation
with about MeConhsss majority in the district; l
think announced 1t at fifty eish he said he guessed
there mus. be mistake in my mi utes and that ne
thought his majority must be as much ~ seventy; the
CLERKS at III time had net added up any thing; my
nouncement was made as soon IS had added up my
minutes.
That he En- TT time at the OF the
ticket. ct the polls Of the First election district of the
and went away and returned again and present
bly, about five six minutes for the drst
time and aeout ten mnutss the second time; know Mr.
Murray by sight: knew him ON the evening OF the sth
Instant heard Mr. Murray say that AdsIm HcConkey
fifty three ahead in tina district trying to
End the true returns that evening" from all the dis
trics TO ascertain who elected Alderman; when
went in there the second time had no. heard the
returns from the Fourth oatrict but had from
The rest Mr. Tucker was thep, had It, 104 ahead
in the districts had heard FROM Me-. Murray and
said that hcconkey elected and that the First, Sc
cond. and Fourth districts wond elect him. said that
McCorkey had Only FIVE majority in the Second district
when Mr.. N. ssid that McConkey was 5S ahead there
reminder the number; Mr.. Lindsey then made the re
mari that be might have it 100 in the Fourth dstict
had then got Mr. Wizards tally from him. and looking
at that found that IT conesporded with wha. Mr MUIR
ray said to McConkey's majority over Mr. Tucker.
hr. Willard gave me the fgu.ef, 1t hun
IS majority for Mr.. McConkey; / do no. know
where N Murray got his Information FROM for when he
made the staten mi did not hear Mr. Willard say word
thought there must be mistake in his nutes and
that be thought that Mr. Corkeys majority
7oi Mr. Willard was in every respect better pa sd than
myit to know what going Ionly took II from the
made outside the bar that the of
the Char er Ticket was closed, did not hear any official
statement from The inspectors left ct ten O'Clock ia the
evening" and when left hr. Willard ana the inspectors
were there
John H: Wynans sworn sa ST. was present at the can
,u-sius ,irn-t in- n,st poll district Of
the Twentieth ward; Mr. Turner and Mr. Mooney
canyassinv think MIR. Murray was also; Mr.. Turner
Gale out the mes from the ticket the table about
two feet wide; sat the counter opposite the end
Of the table; Nr Murray opposite at the other
end If the table, little TO my eft was there ustl
al the tickets counted except about three four
which rnder tie wires; the tickets yera counted
by tens, and called out BY Turner, and n. Mooney
called cut "'sy when Turner called the tick for r.
McConkey he called .c .orkey,n ard handed the,a TO
Mr.. Mooney, who also said aly- tally meant tea
the fame proccss think fusd with he fucker"
tcltts sometimes Mr. Mooney recounted them before he
taid tally, and ecpieiimes he would ne. say ro the
regular hes assorted from ihe splits In the rst
place; the regular tickets were polled Il ny five
woes for Cummings II. Tucber, to the best of my