The Kalida venture. [volume] (Kalida, Ohio) 1841-1865, 1853-04-15
REPOTST
of Joint Select Commihee, appointed
to erGmi4e into alledged Frauds al The
Defiance Land Office.
In SENATE March 6, 1858.
(nM IYGnAM's EVIDENCE, coNT1yuED.)

| ("M INGRAM EVIDENCE, CoNTINUED.)
Question. Was there any inquiry
made at the flee as TO the right OF
morality of such tfjdavils. aud SO large
numbers, to one person?
Answer. don't know of any being
made by any Of the purchasers.
Question. DID the commissioner make
at any time any Objection to it? r
Answer. don'I know of any oajec,
lion being made. s...
Qlesiou. Do you know of whom Mr..
Samuel Paul obtained the mon' y, or any
portion of il, to make his purchases?
Answer. No, do not. II
Question. lave YOU never heard any
conversation on the subject, by hin or
any one else2 ..f
Answer. don't think lave ever
heard word spoken ON the subject.
Question. Do you know Of M. Gibson
writing to Bryan to Samuel Paul on the
sui jrct Of purchases at the sale?
Answer. No, sir, don't know hat he
ever wrote him line on the subject.
Question, When did you learn that
The sale of lands referred 10 in question
10 would be set aside? -s
| Answer. | think was informed on
the 9Th day of January following.
Question How was YOU informcd'
Answer. BY le!!er from Mr.. Gilscu
at Colupbus.
Question. VIII you copy that letter
INTO your deposition. so far as il relates
TO matters connected with the land flee?
"CoLUMBUs, January ID, 1858.
VIM keRAM-D Dear Sit: Tie land bid
off by WelIes and his men is suhjeci TO
entry, Of which | have advised you per
mail, but may moi have reached you yet.
The bearer has been al Kaida since the
sale, and returned without purchasing,
learning the md was all sold,
-...tr.. Yours truly, g..... d..
R. IL. gibson"
Question. Did you receive the letter
referred TO in the above nolej iF so, please
copy the same into your deposilion9
'CoLyMBus, January %, 1853.
WM. INGRAM, ESQ.,: You
will, open for entry The. purchase by
Wclles and his men, PER- APPS you bad
better take liIlle Lme to scratch from
plat book Nos. Of entries, but take your
own course, and be governed by whal
may seem b2st and tight between the
Stale and purchasers and myself, for |
don't want TO DE exp'sed TO censure,
and wish 10 do my duty 10 all parties.
You have, no doubt, a copy OF
the amendment TO the law in the States
man, relative to The limit of lands TO
actual settlers. 1t bc came law on the
18th, and if any entered over one>founh
Of section since that date, al the reduced
price, the. sale is void. n . You
had better have Col. Green notice that
those lands are in market. You will
extend the information as much as you
can. n Cherey has paid tor his
purchase; S. Paul's is also arranged
* y You will likely wan, more
blanks, as there may be rush. You
had better be prepared. ws
Yours truly, -.
r. ii. gibson"
The above is.all there is in that letter
relating TO the business Of the land office.
The remainder Of the letter is in relation
to private matters, which have no con.
necuon or reference TO any thing cons
necled with the sales at the land office.
Queslion. Is there any thing in those
paris of she letter which you refuse to
copy which relates TO tie action Of The
Legislature, the committee, or any mems
Der thereof, in relation to the matters
under investigation?
Answer. There is.
Questtn. | will ask you again to
copy in your deposition that part of ,he
letter referred TO in the last question and
answer? n..#
Answer. "The fuss raised ere by
Taylor has damned him aud helped me.
The committee have no, reported. ash
urging them to the investigation and
report, aud the closer they investigate
he matter the beit!r for me. y
rayloy's motive is well understood 10 be
4 drive at me. He told some Of the
members that the whole Northwest was
lgainst him in the matter"
The above answer was given under a
protest that the matters therein contained
we're private, and having no connection
With tho business of the land Office. On
he propoundine Of the last Two questions
Mr. Ingram requested and procured
counsel TO advise him, in The person of
}. s. Slevin, Esq. 'ia5
Question. Was there any direction
rom the commissioner 10 keep that par,
# the letter privatc?
Answer. There was no direction
rom him. aa- IA ,a.
Question. What has become Of The
publications. Of the persons mentioned in
he answer TO The 18th question, aad
heir afidayils of settlement?
Answer. They are in the office, and
re herewith exhibited. 't9 a'4. 2,