The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-28

was true; think had been board the Henry Clay
fore don't recoect where went TO; my impression Is
that her but don't recollect In what place
don't recollect if she going fast that day
DON'T recolec swearing before the Coroners jury that
she yas go fast that day the day of the acct
dent il did swear it, 1t was true.
Q. Didn't you swear before the Coronsr's jury that
you s' didn't know anything about it A. suppose
is true. O. You said here he told you TO mind your own
business why dent you give the same answer to-day
A. II amounts to the thing. Q When you went to
the pilot house first what did you him do A. think
he gave the wheel half turn there one there but
lady O. Didn't swear before the Coroners jury that
when you the second time there another
in the pilot house and NE and the pilot we're turning the
boat toward the shoref
A. l think / did sir: that is true; did not say one
word at the Coroners jury about the charred wood
you were sworn to tell ans A. was going on TO state it
and they would not let me tell anything but asked
questions; Mr. Lawrence knew was On board did not
tell any one what knew, they asked me questions hap
hazard; Captain TaInan. Q. Did you see him
saving passengersS A. No sir.
Capt. Tallman in a boat, saving passengers
A. No, sir; II l did told lie
Q. Did you not tell this morning.
A. No, sir; asked this morning If did not
see Capt Talman in a boat saving passengers.
Y. Did you not say you did,
A. No, sir; If did did not mean it; am barkeeper
at hotel of Forty fourth street and Sixth
nue. did not say that hotel keeper now; none of
the witnesses the prosecution board that hotel
Q. Had you any conversation with Mr. Ridgway or any
person in the District Attorneys Officer
Cross examined by Mr. Jordan don't know the size of
the fire room; did not steam coming out of the
steam chimney cannot say whether there
hung up the fire not, as to prevent me see
ing the chimney could the floor of the fire room,
and about the width of the two hues can't tell what
you were the pro nenade deck you smelt smoke
A. No, sir the main deck the hot place spoke
Of was the engine. O. Was that the only hot place
you founds A. That was the only place found very
warm; it was warm down at the gangway, near the
engine room but not as hot as it was a., above @ Was
A. / don't know anything abous it; ! told you
il was very warm there; it was not very hot there
the first furnace might have been eight ten feet
from the door, could eight ten feet into the room
the furnace might have been four six feet horizontally
could four feet back into the room; don't
collect if l could anything further back.
Did you see any fire. or any iron connected with the
furnace the boat within six feet of where the
woodwork charred9 A l don't know can tell you
exactly From the nearest part of the furnace to the
door, hew far was it to where you saw the chrred tim
Der? A. About eight feet; I'm not postve didn't
ce particularly have stood at the furnace door
two or three minutes before discovered these appear
did not go there to be comfortable uncomfort
able went there because it Indifferent to ms where
was; fireman down there; think he stood in
front of the furnaces don't think saw him when first
went there, but he front afterwards certainly
him at the time smelt the smoke.
Q. By Mr. DowniDg-I think you have stated you knew
tie officers by sight; wish tosknow which of the
officers you board that day.
Mr. Jordan objected to counsel going over that test
mony again.
The cout-That sufficiently proved already.
George r Common, examined BY Mr.. Hail. deposed-I re-
sided in Albany in July, 1882 have resided there
since board the Henry Clay the day of the fire.
my wife with board at Albany to 60 to
you know him by sight on the ssh July Al didn't at
that time; could not say knew him by sight; that
gentleman in court who holds paper in his hard (Mr
Coye) on beard the Henry Clay that day spoke to him
Q-By what title did you address him.
Al addressed him as captains Odd you see him
more than that day? Al saw him several times,
in 9 varous parts forward at the pilot house and the
way to the main deck spoke to him. cannot tell
what it was it something in relation to dnner he
al, 81 rnrrp or1 h1o<
Ing as Supposed Objected toy; recollect seeing him
giving order to Of the hands; the order to fix
it bell snap don't whether it was landing
bell or not observed fremen sitting ice box for
ward Of the bar on the side might hare been
Q.-What was their condition? (ol9ected to-not
pressed Odd you observe an, thing about the speed
Of the vessel Al thought The was going fast; don't
know what she is capable of; the landings made
quick and remark ably WE'LL mean as to speed.
remarkably well in relation to speed Yes recolisct
seeing Mr. Coytr at the after gangway, of the
landings can't tel which was on the after upper deck
at the time of collision. Q. For how long time did the
boats remain in tolerabe close proximity each oher
A. Perhaps two miles; was the upper deck aft when
the alarm of Ere took place was alone; my wife
down to the ladies saloon to take nap; perhaps half
an hour or three quarters.
@ What did you do after the alarm of freG
A. went Immediately down stairs the after saloon
for wife, and discovered her perhaps twenty feet
the door In the crowd and took her went out Of the
door as rapidly could she objected to go into the
smoke took her forward and while between the stairway
and the cabin door, saw man put out his hand and
give orders to aft he repeated it twce he pushed
paid regard to the order but pushed and took my
wife with me- the smoke was thick could not see
way took my wife up the stairs leading to the upper
deck and brought her forward that stairway between
the two decks let wife down to the main deck, and
To the Judge passed to the bow on the left side
larboard and starbosrd.
To Mr. Hall-Myself and my wife both escaped
To the Judge-rhe boat had not struck when my wife
orAT vptD thai 1anl
Mr. Wheaton did not require to ask the witness any
questions. ~
Cross examined by Mr. Jordan-It was between the Ia
dies saloon the stairway leading the main deck
to the upper deck that the who gave the order met
concluded that the lower part Of the deck i'm
passabe don't know Jas. f. De Peyster did not look in
the face Of the who gave the orders he went direct
y towards the ladies' cabin did not see him go sin
did see him after O. He was in as much danger as
you were and he still went further aft A The differ
is had my wife to take care Of and he had
Q. Who the ordergiyen to by Mr. Coyer to fix the
bell snaps? A. think It was to that gentleman there,
(Elmendorf) am not postye don't think there
any harm in the order did not know Coliyer that day
men, (Tallman and Collyer.)
Witness-captain Talman is rather the best looking
man, (aughter) he keeps his whskers better trimmed
q. Win you ii not Mr. asidder for confess
I scarcely tell the difference between them!
A. 1t not Mr. Ridder; know hira as well as do
myself if that gentlem there Mr. Colyer he Is the
that gave the order the boat to fix the bell snap;
have no doubt on my mind.
Mr. Jordan want to get fixed so that you swear
positively you will be guilty Of peri 1ry.
Witness can't swear Positivsyi /, mad known Mr.
that he the man; could positively If it
Mr. Ridder for know him.
O. want to know if you as positive of the man he
gave the order to as you are of Colyer himself
a. told you before am not positive, do not know
what officer is charged With fixing bell snaps.
q. Is it not the work Of q mechanic
A If it only rust suppose any one could do it;
any could oil IT. that all Mr. Coyer do that
day except walk back and forward the deck; Wake
back and forward myself, and don't know that saw
passenger board that did not
Isaac Polhemus, examined by Mr.. Hall, deposed-Ire
side in Greenbusb, Rennsalear county.
O. What is your occupationl
A. Following the water-steam boating that has been
my business forty odd years have been shopping and
boating prnc paly the North river my present
occupation is stea uboatng lam on the steamboat A.
mena.
ON what capacity you on the steamboat
Armenia 2
Al suppose hail there as Ca plain.
O. We're you on beard the Armenia the 23th July,
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