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give luminous report, and then will be The time for
speeches.
Mr. BUTLER That is right
Mr. HALE. understand from the senator from South
Carolina Mr.. BuTLER that he wants report OF the
committee before be argues this subject hope there
fore, that We will have vote now upon referring these
resolutions.
Mr. BUTLER want the facts before argue this
Mr. SEWARD. The honorable senator from Alabama
Mr. CLEMsss,l who is now detained from this chamber
by sickness has sent me anoie in which he asks
request the Senate 10 postpone the OF these
resolutions until next Tuesday the first OF February, al
which time he hopes 10 be able 10 address the Senate
upon them. AT his request, therefore, will make that
motion
Mr. BUTLER. No, no let the subject be referred
Mr. MANGUM. am glad 10 hear the remark from
the honorable senator from New Hampshire MIR HALE
and assened 10 by the honorable senator from Michigan
Mr. Cas-, that they both practical men. Now,
desire to get little practical work, little real work,
aud to stop this talking upon this subject think these
resolutions have been debated long enough and think
now should have little practical action. Now, with
view OF making test question OF IT, at least my
part so far as can make i so. move that these reso
lutions be laid upon the table and upon that motion
ask the yeas and nays
Mr. GWlN | have no objection TO that
Mr. MASON. Will the honorable senator from North
Carolina Mr.. MAsGuM Withdraw his motion for mo-
ment will renew il If he desires me to do SO.
Mr. MANGUM will withdraw it to accommodate
the honorable senator.
Mr. MASON. 1t seems to me that the object OF the
motion is 10 get rid OF debate Now, this debate has
gone TO some length, and has become very interesting
COunIy, SHOWN Dy press from every quar-
ter. Although have as little disposition mos, gem
emen TO enter into this debate. proract il, yet il is
very certain that there is object al least OF very great
practical interest the country which, il not INN edale
ly connected with the subject OF these resolutions. still
worthy of engaging The public debate and attention OF the
Senate and affects the ground. and very material
sage oil the President, which is before the Commit
tee on Foreign Reations-aihough since il went there
il has been the sublecto some debate in this body
in reply to resolution OF the Senate asking for in
formation concerning recent proclamation that APP
peared in the public journals, issued by the Brit
sh authorities OF Belize, declaring colony established
not about 10 be established but esablshed-a British
colony established in certain islands therein designated
which lay of the coast OF the republic Of Honduras
That SIR has become question Of great practical inter
geDce that British colony is about TO be establish
ed al the Belize The President OF the United States, il
appears from his message does not consider that there
was any source OF official communication open to him by
which he could inform whether the report in reference
to that colony OF the Bay of Islands true but
il comes IN such shape as TO make It necessary that
its existence shall be assumed by the legislative branch
OF this government, the executive branch uniform
ed. and seeks no information.
Now, before The debate closes upon these resolutions,
l wanted and now want, be heard in some practical
remarks-as the honor able senator from New Hampshire
Mi hALE] seems to have desire for something pract
calm reference to this matter oil colonization, which is
connected with OF the resolutions offered by the hon.
orabs senator from Michigan, Mr.. CAssl-that which
affects future colonization upon or near the American
continent. 1t is matter of very great interest the
American people-one that was preached thirty years
ago. and practically brough, home Them far
as am informed, until the pIesen, moment should re-
greet, therefore, II the honorable from North Car
DINA lMr. MANGuM perseveres in his motion 10 have
II prevail II smy purpose to ask the Senate TO indulge
me Tor not more than an hour upon the general subject
that have indicated Now, if the honorable senator
from North Carolina desires me to his motion TO
lay this mater N,tI, upon the table, will do SO.
Mr.; MANGUM; | believe there are matters enough
now before the Committee on Foreign Relations upon
which the honorable senator from Virginia [Mr MAsosl
can make The remarks that he wishes 10 submit 10 The
Senate My sole purpose IN making my motion is 10
open the way for dong some real practical business
When the report shall be made from the Committee on
Foreign Relations, either written printed, it be
companied by speech which will hear any time
with pleasure, for think that my opinions do not
differ widely from the opinions OF the honorable senator
from Virginia upon this subject Now, with view that
we may go 10 work upon other matters. renew m mo-
non to lay thus subject upon the table.
MIR. MASON. II the honorable senator will allow
me- will suggest 10 hin that, instead OF motion lay
this sublec. upon the table, he will permit 10 move TO
postpone the further consideration of il until Monday
next will then ask the Senate to hear for an hour
With the permission OF the honorable from North
Carolina make the postpone this subject I'M
I'll Monday next
Mr.. GWlN. do no, understand the honorable SEN
a.or from Virginia 10 say that the Committee Foreign
Relations intend TO propose any practical legislation of
Congress upon this question do not understand him to
say that there is TO be before Congress any legislative
question IN connexion with the subject that has been
brought TO the attention OF the Senate by these reseu
ions Therefore, have been anxious, very anxious 10
progress with the business which we have been coDsd-
erng and debating during the previous session, upon
which there is to be legislative action Now, If the hon
ordbe senator intends To bring forward any active legs
lation, IN which Congress should participate will
throw no obstacle in the way OF his procaiming his
views. And he is going TO have anything done which
will insure action, it must be in with the APP
preparation bills for that is the only way TO carry out
the measures oil the government II he intends have
any legislation upon this subject by the Congress OF the
United States, instead OF mere abstract debate in the
Senate, then II is his duty and privilege ask TO be
heard. III he intends anything like legislation, shall
not nterpose any obec,ioE. Bat il il is merely for the
purpose OF speaking generally about that upon which
are 10 have no legislative action, must insist upon my
notion winch Is 10 postpone this matter until the ih OF
March next II the senator from Virginia says he in
tends TO propose practical legislation, will withdraw my
motion
Mr. MASON. have already said lhisp-,ha the mes.
sage OF the President in reference this alleged esab
lishment OF colony upon the Bay OF Honduras before
the committee at this time. Hut the President in that
message declared himself unable TO give any certain in
formation upon the subject and yet presents itself IN
such form impress me- and doubtless others, with
the belief that the proclamation said to have been issued
by the British authorities is official and true copy OF 1
which we have got by OF The public journals.
Now, II is more than probable-indeed, II is almost GER
tain, the present state oil that questioniha the Commit
Tee Foreign Relations will feel itself called upon TO
make report upon that specific question and the re-
port is made, may probably be necessary TO follow
up by legislation. am here free TO declare, OF
that the government OF Great Britain has established
colony al the place designated by the proclamation
whether II be or be not IN contavenon OF the Clayton
Bllwer treaty, that colony must be discontinued. am
prepared 10 say that al once, do not know whether
hat fact asserted IL true not but yet high degree