The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-26

don't know the officers: "a. that every s.srtien ":
made to extinguish the Ere and stop the flames 2
Were you In position to ts A. Twas engaged, a.
@ Then IL might have been done A. with regard to
the fire know nothing but with regard to the
that there not that exeron made to save them
that there ought TO have been Did make any enort
to save any one A. could mako effort; the eiotthe
should have made, to to the passengers and
tell them to 60 forward; when got on Il promenade
d. OK the fame up to the top OF the pps it would
have been out of place for to the gentlemen for
ward to get them to do as there was no OFF,
Ger to direct the situation of the vessel not known
to the passengers O. Did you make any effort to get the
gentlemen to go forward to get them to do anything
can't answer the question, for there effort to
be made 9. Did you or did you not A. Unquestion.
ably did not Q. You self possessed. A. con.
was perfectly self possessed You were at liberty to
take bucket if you wished, and what more could
officer des
A. mean that II was the duty Of an officer to soms
and tell the passengers to forward If that had been
done all the passengers conld have escaped as did
Q. Why did you not tell thea 500
A. 1t too late think it all right for them to
run the vessel up rs far ashore as they did.
O. want to ask you whether the passengers being aft
wouldn't have powerful tendency to raise the bow OF
the vessel on sherey
A. dor t think that would make any difference am
not acquainted with the place. found the water was
jump or the stern when the vessel in the river
O. Suppose at the time there forty persons in the
river do you think the officers to blame in trying to
get boats or planks, anything to save them2
On the contrary, sir, should think they would de-
Q. When the flames got entirely past control what
could the officers do9
A. When the boat was toward the shore, presume
the officers engaged in utpg out the flames surely
II the duty of another officer to tell the passengers
speaking with authority, it would have been enough
II any one sd go forward, its the only means OF
safety" would you consider that with authority"
A. It would all depend upon who 1t came FROM woui
have obeyed it If it from officer gentleman;
would not il it came from an inferior man
z. BY Mr. Hall-f a person with an air OF authority
told them to go aft would it not be eyeds
A. 1t would.
@ If the same man who gave the order to z, aft had
coMe and in the same manner the order to go for
ward would you not have obeyed is [Objeced to and
gers would have obeyed it.
Q. BY Mr. Jordan--If this gentleman (ir Ridder) had
given an order to go forward would it be obeyedY &c.
air of officer he had forward and said that the
officers told him to desire the passengers to go forward
have no doubt it would be obeyed
order
witness-I was on the main deck and heard no such
notice or order at all there large pile of baggage
on the toward deck.
Q. How many of the four hundred passengers could
have stood on the forward deck2 A. can give opn
ION on that; should think more than fifty.
Q. Could one hundred? A. tell nothing at all
aboutit.
Q. Suppose the forward deck had been fully crowded.
do you think the officers could have got out the gangway
pink 10 save the pasSengersY A. think not, as we
we're some little distance from the land.
Adam Murray examined by Mr. Dunning, deposed live
in Chicago am dry goods merchant; have resided
down the river, A. Not lately i was on ' board the
Henry Cay the day she destroyed j boardat
Albany; continued on board until her destruction.
q. Had you any of your family on beard with you?
A. had my wife and child.
O. After you left Albany did ysu observe any thing
A. Merely the hurry of getting passengers board
and getting ready to that attracted my attention
he x We TO as
went in santing direction towards the other boat and
kept her between her and the shore and there
siderable excitement.
Q. How did that excitement manifest itself.
A. The ladies were crying, and some of them fantng.
Collected to- @ De you know any of the officers
spoken reference to the of the boat
A. myself spoke to person in the Captains Office;
took him to be the captain bought my ticket from that
suchsa time since Qooks around) there is gentleman
there very much resembles him, (pontipg out Mr. Jes
them to be racing; he said there danger;
he said, 'ars you afraid? l answered that no.
afraid myself, but the ladies board were afraid; be
said there was danger and that officer on board
valued bis life as much any gentleman or lady ON
board he said my further arguing with him. that he
wished people uld mind their business that Is all
that remember TO have par sed 1t that time; was
the promenade deck that day; observed that the
chnery was remarkably hot throwing out great heat
that was about O'Clock, can recOllect my
the boat, or observed il myself observed she was
before; remember it lasted all the time since
started to overake the Armenia where the collision
took place attention not called to the speed of
the Clay until she crossed the river towards the Armenia
and after that she continued the speed; don't
know any Of the othe officers but the one bought my
ticket from; found him very civil until he told that
he wished people would mind their business previous
TO the alarm of fire, my wife went down to dress the
child, thinking within fifteen miles of the
journey; | then went to the water closet, and on
opening it smoke; then turned round and
saw smoke in the passage, and In the passage where
the Goals are thrown down: then went down to the
cabin to find my wife and child, and the dining cabin
was full of smoke, and had difficulty in finding her; nay
wife was crying for me; came up, and there was
difficulty, and coull not get forward; there
of FIRE. and order for all to go abaft stayed abaft
did not hear after that order any otAer order
man6 by any officer of the boat that the fatal
that order? Why did YOU remain theref
Objected to. [Admitted
A. remained there after got the order, for the sim
pie reason that the fire got strong couldn't leave it,
O. AT the time this order given for the paf senges
to go aft, the flames in such condition that the
passengers could not passs
A No. sir they not; it is impossible to say how
long it until the flames that they i'm
passable, minute two wsud be long time in such
position.
O. Why did you remain in the after part Of the boat
from the time you got the orderl
A. intended TO go forward until got this order and
remained because expected something going to be
done for u.s..
At this stage Of the proceedings the Court Adjourned to
10 O'Clock "Wednesday morning.
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