The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-12-14

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and 4s Mr. Carson said anything 70 induce hi
bid against the other bidders Pine Asrtahorns and Mr.
Smith; had copversation the subject Xitsd
upon the other buildsrs not induced By anything
Mr. Carson sais done to bid against other builders in
cuson that it would b. hard have the engines
thrown on the hands Of Msssrs. CxslnAn Sisklss
John Bloomfield being duly sworn, dspossd that he
building committee, and called upon Mesns Cxelmsn
sckss and requested them not TO bid against Mr. Smith
Tor the building engine No AZ 70 the best OF wnesss
knowledge Mr. Car had nothing do with the affair
John sicklss depossd that he manufacturer of
FIRE engines in I. is city. q member of the OF
Czslmap sckes His ars st that time built engines
Nos l5and z6 the Fire and Water Committee gave orders
to have engine No 10 built end the order through
Alderman Bard Mr.. Carson had nothing to do with the
building Of engine No IS Mr. Carson called him, and
told him he had better go in for building snynes No AZ
had better build hose carriages; but witness told Mr.
Carson that he had enough work hand, and would
not take any more work until he had finished that on
hand
John H Foreman deposed that he had . conversation
with Mr. Van Ness in relation to his interest in the Arm of
Van Ness Torboss.
The counsel for the preferrpg parties objected TO any
conversation that TOOK pace between witness and Mr.
Van Ness Aloerman Barker sustained Mr. Wizards objec-
top on the ground thai the counsel for Mr. Carson had
right to mpach Mr. Van Ness sworn answer to one Of his
own questions.
Van Nes general reputation for truth and and vsracity
II Is not good should not ike to believe him under oath
mao conveIkaton Win larson ABOUT oull1ng GER
tain engines The conversation TO and sustained
by the Committee.)
W. s. Doughty deposed that the character Of Mr. Van
Ness for truth and veracy from what he had heard
not very 3D. CThis evidence objected and objection
sustained BY the Committee
John Brocie called to impeach the veracity Of
Mr. Van Ness-Hs judged that in the community 1t
bad from what witness knew Of him he would not take
his word under any circumstances. and would hest
tate TO believe him under oath he has heard his chaae
ter attacked BIZ various indiduas an eng them were
Nessrs Purdy. Doughty, Czelman and Walsh they In
varisoy said that he told many lies that they could
not tell when he spoke the truth Mr. Van Ness owed wit
ness money AID he had to him for 1t; ill feeling
has existed since that account ST busns TONS
Counsel for Mr. Carson-Did Mr. Van Ness BROTHER
ever tay anything unfayorsble about him?
Ar Willard objected to this questit n, the ground
that II would create family difficulties and IL the counsel
for Mr. Carson wanted to know anything about Mr. Van
Ness brother hey should produce him on the tsnd.
Alderman Barker sustained the obectl of Mr. Will
lard and the witness left the stand
The council for the Chief Engineer then Informed the
Committee that he had subp9nsd several other wtnss
who, he sorry to say absent; but If the
counsel on the other side willing to close the he
ready also.
The counsel for the preferrpg parties informed the
Committee Il at he would like to sustain Mr. Van Ness
Character by producing witnesses adavits for that
purpose.
Counsel for Mr. Carson said that If the counsel on the
other Tide would produce affidavit he would be under
the M cessity of calling Jonathan Purdy and Mr. Smith
TO the stand.
The chairman OF the committee then adjourned the
case until this day At four O'Clock when the investi
ton on both tides viii be closed.