The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-04-12
THE GARDINER CASE.
CRIMINAL COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA.
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TwENTY-FlFTH DAY-SLturdas, april g.
Alfred A. Le,eis, rsesl1ss.
Mr.. Bradley. Were there not res'oioe, ~Noin
quarter Of an hours rids 2, ;~s u jour
A.. iheGsvs that Mr.. Robert and Mr.. Frederick
Glenny reside within that oistance:
O,..s NJ Won know Mr.. Frederick Glenny!
se' I nov Wv Mr. Robert Glenny
Or. Do YOU know Mr.. Frederick Glennyf
Sss Yes, sir; know him.
Qu<s Then why not answer my question at once.
and net have told me that you knew MIR. Robert
Glenny. when bad not asked you any question
about hirn. Where did Mr.. Frederick Glsnny re-
side in lS45!
Has cannot fix any date in regard to his resi-.
dence.
CUES. Well, at the time you say Dr. Gardiner
visited Guanaiuata?
Ans. think be resided in the hacienda Flores,
which 10 about q quarter Of an hour's ride from the
house Of my brother-iu-iaw. II Mr.. Robert Glen
ny was in the country at the time, he resided in
the house of the United Company.
Que. You say, "if be was In the country" Was
be not a we'll known resident there:
Ans. He was we'll known 80 far as the haciendes
OF Perez Calves were concerned.
Cues. Had he not charge of the place where the
silver is extracted from the ore?
Ans He had.
Q,aes. Do you know whsvo be resided before that
time and afterwards?
4ans Before that time knew that be resided 10
Qua juata.
CUES. During the year lS45, when you say you
saw DR.. Gardiner there, and before and after that
time, did you Zee Glenny theref
Ans. did. l saw him in lS4S.
CUES. Did you not see MIR. Glenny there as
early as l643 or lS44e
= Ans. ] DO rot recollect having seenhim, but
have learned he was there.
Mr.. BRADLEY. 1t lie sald that these gentlemen
Mr.; Frederick and MIR. Robert Genny-are sons
of the tutor of Lord B yron.
CUES. Do you know the locality of a mine allied
La Luce?
Ana. do; know it in and out.
Cues. Were you there before the new vein was
struck which has yielded 80 much?
-dns The "new vein' has been struck more tina n
hundred years. 1t ia not a new vein, but very
old one.
Quss. W hen did they strike the one which has
yielded such surprising Quantities'
4dns. In the middle Of lS43.
CUES. And you have personal knowledge of the
fact Of that vein having been extensively opened
since that time and yielding q large amount
4as. have.
Qass Have you any knowledge of the extent of
the yield per month at any one timer
Ans Yes sir; when fairly opened it first be gan to
yield profit of $4,000 per week; then it came I'D
TO q much a. 5 30 900 week, and now it in down
TO something like 81 900.
Qrss. Can you state from recollection how long
il was after 1t was reopened that this vein began
20 yield these enormous profits of s 30 900?
ans. In about six months after the vein was
struck II was In very good state; but the want of
bad to be sunk, and when that was completed then
the enormous yield made
CUES What is the population around this mine?
-dns When the mine was not in operation there
were OIL three huts. but there 10 now a population
in the nsighborhood of some thirty or thirty
thousand.
CUES. How far is this mine from Guanajuata,
Ans. About nine ten miles.
Ques With good road to il?
-Ans. No, very bad road
CUES. What was the mode of transportation at
that time of day?
Ans. 1t was done altogether upon mules, and ia
now; for although carriage road was made il
die not suit the purpose.
CUES. Are we to understand then, that, notwith-
standing this enormous yield, the transportation
10 Effected entirely upon the bac ks of mules?
-Ans. Altogether BY mules and donkeys.
GUS What 10 the character of the road?
Witnsss here described the road dividing it into
sections With the names of various places, which
the reporter could not distinctly hear; but the
sult of the description that part of the road
was level and good, and other parts altogether
impracticable Tor carriages and nearly impracd
a mountain four thousand feet high had to be
cended
Qpsss. Before the frst part of the road was i'm
proved, was it not exceedingly rugged?
Ans. IL ma Y have been twenty years ago.
Cues. WHAT ia the character Of the road in de.
scendiug the mines?
Ans. II 10 very rough
Cues. What 10 the burden which mule can
carry in thai section of country?
dns. In going down bill they can carry fourteen
arrobas of twenty fys pounds each; but in ascend
ing they cannot carry more than nine arrobas;
the Mexican pound is about ope-eighth less than
the American pound.
The CoUsr. That would be about hundred
and ninety American pounds in ascending a hill.
Cues. What machinery had they at the mine of
Ans. They have machinery except horse
power. They have what in England are called
drums, for hauling up water and letting down tine
men. They have no iron machinery pumps,
or any thing Of that SORT
Re-sSGmined by Mr.. May.
Cues. Is this mine very celebrated miner
Ans. 1t is now; but Is was not in lS43.
gus. 1t is to- day?
Aas. 1t is known all over the Republic Of Mex
CUES. Do many people flock there?
14ps. All the bad people of Mexico seem to z o
there 1t is the regular Botany Bay of the country
Quss. II was ownsd by Perez Galvez, I be-
Eeve!
Ans Yes, SIR
CUES. IL he rich man?
SAns he was reputed to be 30. He is now dead.
Mr. BRADLEY Let the witness state what he
knows of his own knowledge, and not what is com.
mon reputation.
Mr.. MAY. What is the character of the build
I'M around this mine!
Ans. They all of masonry except few
which made of dry bricks.
CUES. Il there coach road all the way from
Vera Cruz to Guanajuata?
hpS mere Is 4 FCau Cailed coach road, though
l suppose it would hardly be called a coach road
in the United States.
CUES. But coaches travel all the way between the
two places?
Ans Yes, all the way.
CUES. And understand you to say that there ia
a pretty good road all the way from Guanajuata
to the foot of this high mount tain you spoke Of?
Ans. Yes; nearly all the way. There s q good
road, but it ia long way round about, and ia very
little used.
Cues. How near does this roundabout road go
to the mine of La Luce?
Ans. Pretty near.
Gus. Ia it practicable to carry machinery or a
steam engine to that place?
Ans. By the road for mules it is impossible. /
have seen heavy loads of timber taken up the other
road.
Quss. Can you say from your own knowledge
OF mining operations and the description of la
borers working n these mines, how large a num-
Der OF persons would constitute the population or
settlement round mine where five hundred Ia
borers were employed
Ans We divide our laborers into two ella sae,
those Who work on shares, and those to whom IRE
paid certain amount of wages Those who ia ia
portion of a mine TO work on sbares mt in -
many men as they please. mine at which tbers
were hve hundred workmen, / should saw would
bring round 1t a population of perhaps three thou
sand persons.
Cues. IL not the country round Guanaiuata a
mining country?