The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-01-13

of Ruatan but it to an officer sent
which reairmed and incorporated within it the very
stpuations OF the treaty OF l!S6; and unless some
thing has ranspired since then the English claims to do
right After that these islands taken possession of
By the State of Honduras In 1s4s Commodore Macdon
mel then commanding the British forces took possession
of the islands hauled down the Honduras flag and raised
that Of England He had however, scarcely left there
displayed Macdonnel was shortly after removed from
the post and the British government repudated his
thought al e% as to the aFh ISLANDS a'rsaa sss
abandoned by Great Britain; but they were mis-
taken They were weak, and had to submit to what
ever that proud power might dictate. Great Britain
asserts no claim these islands, except
claim connected with the Belize Under the several
treaties with Spain her right limited, and
thing than the license to cut wood in Honduras.
He read from act Of the British Parliament of 1928 for
the Punishment Of crimes, that 1t contained dcscrp
ment for certain purposes, and was not within
his bis hss territories or So%inGns He thought he
than the precarious license to cut dyewoods and It
was but in keeping with her former conduct th. sne
them in the very teeth Of the assertion by this govern
men OF the onroe doctrine. How strange it would ap
pear 70 the world that at the very moment she binds the
United States against taking any islands territory in
that region she comes forward and without any right
takes of and colonies these sands He wish
ed not 10 light fires which might lead a general
combustion and he not nsensbe to the dangers of
contest with any of the maritime powers at this time
to TINS country still desired that the world might know
that they could not presume nor too long on our
prudence or confidence He desired the nations of
Europe to be aware that this government may, in
with any or ali Of them. a5 hsai NO isa1r
for the result of such contest. He would tell them that
In such contest might realize the expectation Of the
British statesman and find under banners the discon
tented Of every land and all those complaining justly
unjusty Of wrong and oppression He would have them
remember that there is in the spirit Of freedom
power than ever exhibited in the whole history of the
human race He hoped that this matter would shortly
before the Senate in some tangible shape in which the
m EnnIa he
in the provisions of the Clayton and Bulwer treaty that
will give notice Of our intention to suspend Its effect
Mr. PEARcE (whig) of Nd. said he came into the de-
bate only for the purpose of defending Mr. Clayton against
the charge that he had done away with what gentlemen
supposed should have been the effect Of the treaty
he understood the treaty England by it, had surren
dered rights in British Honduras. But there
are gentlemen here who do understand that treaty
as sweeping Great Britain from all Central Ameri-
ca He did not so understand it, but did
derstand it as intending to stop encroachments of
who understood the treaty. and who have known
Great Britain has continued the occupancy of those
Islands the same as before the treaty have never said
otherwe But he not to continue the debate, but
to make statement in behalf of Mr. King 1t
written, and handed him by Mr. Bragg OF the House
1t in these words Colonel King desires Mr.. Pearce
to say in Senate. that II has not been his desire
intention in anything which he has been represented
as saying reference the Clayton and Buwer treaty
to cast the slightest mputaton on Mr. J. NJ Clayton in
reference to that matter On the contrary he desired TO
do Mr. Clayton the justice to say that hes CONVINCED that
in everything connected with that treaty he (slr Clay
actuaed by patriotic anxiety to Protect the
mortified that any thing said by him under msappre
henson of the ac of the case should have been made
the basis for unjust reflections on Mr.. Clayton This
statement he thought but in keeping with Colonel
Kings character for strict integrity and scrupuous
Mr. sou1E asked whether the Senator from MARYLAND
applied Mr.. Kings conversations while the treaty
pendiney
Mr. soplE said that he had always considered that the
Vecarious right of Great Britain to cut logwood had
never been touched.
Mr. PEArcE said that nothing he had said was to tl
effect that Great Britain had right to dominion
they were, were untouched b the treaty.
Mr. SoUIE said tnat, previous to the treaty, Grea
Britain had set up other pretensons; and these preten
slons were he understood to be swept away by tn
treaty He read letter from Mr.. Clayton Mr. Walsh
that Great Britain had right to colonize any part OF
the Mosquito Coast or Central America.
Mr.. GowNs {dem.,) of louisiana read from Presiden
Iaylors message communicating the treaty, to show
that the President Understood the treaty to mean that
under it Great Britain wo have no right to colonze
fortify. &c. any part of Central America defn
in. the boundaries of Central >rica from the south
en b limits ses.r0 saron 10 shf nes Honduras
and also that if the treaty ratified it wn relieve
Central America from European aggression. be con
&C. before the treaty it abolished by that treaty
He commented, also, upon Nr. Buwer's letter to MI
now,lsta nding the verbal alterations; and yet two
months after he refused to ratify it. except conditionay
Mr. PrARcE said he understood President Iaylors
defining the boundaries within which situa-
ted the three proposed lines OF communication with the
Pacific.
Mr. SHIELDS (dem) of H. said that he thought the
Senate ought embarrass itself respecting the ques
ton Of the terms proposed by Great Britain in ratfying
the treaty. He considered that it made difference
which was the proper construction of the treaty had
heen violated by the seizure of these islands. These
islands never belonged to- or were dependent on British
license to cut logwood, &c, within certain defined
limits late 1882, Great Britain renounced all claim
1u,Ie in .ha haS liam,
and coonized them He argued at length to show that
Great Britain pursuing the policy OF obtaining all the
important positions to girdle the American coast.
Mr. CAss said that, in to the question why he
bad not moved in the matter that he supposed the
convtrsation with Mr.. King on Thursday last
Mr. HALE free oi Of N. H., said he had no fear of any
with England, growing out of this matter Let pa
riotc Indignation get high it may even to iaver
heat and let the issue plainly put to England, the
result would be that this nation would back square
out It would back from fifty -four down to forty nine
and lower ii desired; but this Indignation must
find vent somewhere he thought likely that as we would
weak power would take the blows. The Senator
from Florida had stated to the Senate that England had
Mr. butter, (dem) of South Carolina, said that that
tool place in executive session.
Mr. Hale said that he had made known the fact to the
world disclosed in executive session, that England had
one ship. Uaughter.) The world could make the most
of The information He said that during the consideration
of the treaty he had heard it nmated that it would
exclude Great Britain from Honduras He thought the
Btish proectorate of the eoored gentleman called 1e
King OF the Mosquitoes was the principal object 1t wai
to
NJ. MALLORY (dem) Of Fa. explained that the remark
Of his quoted by the senator made to show that our
docnces such, that single ship Of Great Britain
could control certain points
Mr. UNDERWOOD expressed his recollection Of the
del standing of the treaty when before the Senate
the same that Of the Senator from New Hampshire
NJ. MASGuM, (whig) of NJ c., said that this whole dis
eusson useless for public purpose and pcrncous
to many interests beorsNngress by consuming the time.
1t hao opened in attack the Secretary OF State and
administration That assault had been repealed at every
,n;tt NTH itu nj thn tir
party, it charged with appeal TO with Eng
land He hoped the resolutions would be introduced
This attack Mr.. Clayton had dono for him than
he could do himself He had been informed that Mr..
Clayton had been this day elected to the Senate There
never vas party assault which had proved signal
failure hs member of the Committee Foreign Rela-
tona declared that had never been imagined by that
that this treaty had ever included the British
lain "a Honduras He moved adjournment, which
vas aUrced to.