The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-05-04


drew one picture and received another knew Of mem
Der Of The committee of agement who received spio
ture that was on the catalogue for distribution and re
placed II Tor one OF his own private picures without the
authority Of the i'm tuon the person who was justly
entitled to IT. this was about or just before the time on
the distribution.
Cross examined by Mr. FULIERroN-Ny connection with
the Art Union ceased think about the LIST OF August
1852; friendly TO the institution am unriendy
onlyto those who have conducted themselves improper
ly; have had difficulties with some OF the members Oh
the committee; have made claim against the cemmit
tee for extra services and there is suit now pending In
relation to that claim do not wish TO go nto my private
affairs.
Mr. SHANNON objected.
Mr.. FUIIERroN thought it pertinent for the wit
bad to nure the Art Union in every pos
sible manner, If his bill was not paid
WITNESS livery much excited) -Never, so help God
The CHAIRMAN thought such proceeding was not per-
Q-what is the amount of the bill presenteds
AIN the neghborhood Of $500, think.
O-Is that the bill
Ayes and wish to have it copied on the minutes
Mr.. FUIIERTor-As Mr.. Raymond is present, and sails
with the Arabia Tomorrow and If we do not examine
him shall not be abe to procure his testimony,
hope therefore that the committee will postpone the
allow me to call Mr. Raymond.
The committee acquiescing in the proposition of the
learned counsel,
sworn deposed rs olows am the editor of the Daily
Times; do not remember the bill OF $44O against the Art
Union presented and ead in 1881 had demand in that
dated December 1861 for few dollars for advertising
against the Art Union; from that time till about two
years forward to February last there sundry
charges against the Art Union for advertising in the
Tines there twelve thirteen charges for different
items Of Advertising each of which charged at
more; the aggregate amount was $l32 and some odd
cents ana that SO Tar as know or have any reason to
Times by the Art Union there another charge against
the institution, think, in 1851 for service which
shall have to explain in detail lttle the President of
the Art Union, Mr. Cozzens to at my office
time in 1851 cannot remember when--and wished to
appeal to the country behalf of the Art Union in
order to fill up its subscription books before the day OF
distribution We talked over several different ways and
finally told him of q way that had been adopted by the
proprietors of Harpers Magazine, in connection with
another newspaper establishment, issue upon the
sheet dividing the expense prospectus OF each
MR. Cozzens objected to the evidence and the committee
noted the objection told Mr. Cozzens that about
to issue prospectus Of the Daily Times newspaper
that the appeal Of which he spoke might be placed upon
the pacard that Mr. c. asked what the expense
that would be; replied to him that we would charge
him simply half of the expense of the white paper
used making charge for composition presswork,
anything else he then asked what would be the aggre
the number Of copies printed, and that should not
print less than probably and that the paper would
probably cost in the neghborhood of a cent sheet;
there some further conversation as to the style this
placard should be printed and then told him that
would insert the matter in the Weekly Times, which
would be sent out specimen number, and that if he
preferred to do would put the Art Unions appeal
in that weekly paper, and they might purchase at
cent each many copies of that paper they chose
for weekly distribution and that would then put the
appeal the back of the pacard which was leaf
OF the daily paper without any charge whatsver he con-
luded TO do so that the arrangement made fur
nshed then with IL 800 copies of the weekly paper the
President desired them to be sent to the subscribers
of the Art Union of thereous year. in order that they
might be retained by them for the year 1851 and
deposited in the post Office and their postage paid we
postmssters throughout the United States, 1898
copies Of the daily paper containing the circular for
ha we no charge s we sent bill to
$ll8 2lO0 and that amount together with the S132 for
advertising already specified is ALL so far know
believe that the PROJECTORS of the Times any Of
them received from the Art Union for services
dered enoned to the President at the time that the
law required that the postage should be pre- paid upon all
papers out and the postage would vary according to
the weight Of the paper and he desired to attend to
Una. a. the post ONCE as we were sending there
the 2S goo copies Of pers amounting to $2S6 $780,
which refunded tome presenting the Postmasters
bill to the Art Union Committee those all the pecu
MARY matters have had with the managers of the
Art Union present at the last annual distribution
Co2zens presided; remember that q motion was made
that the seven retiring members of the committee
audier ce. and put by the President.
elec ions
A-The question was put in the usual form, and no
variation from such form attracted my attention; there
was very general responseso general to be fairly
are opposed thereto please say No my decided impress
sion is that there two answers in the mega
aIa one man answered & was I'm
would be put down, and this novel mode Of doing
it, the President then declared the motion carried full
oppoitun given to those who might have wished
to have voted in the negative have done before the
question was put.
Q-was there any trouble to get gentlemen to serve
upon the committees Al considered it to be q nu
sance for it interrupted my business nterfered with my
other engagements, harrassed my mind and exposed
to great deal of malignant misrepresentation which
did not court have to believe that many
strongly urged to become members believe Mr. Charles
Russell Was so urged in my own case resigned my
membership of The committee but requested TO With
draw the letter of resignation, and did So resigned
finally, Immediately after the decision Of the Court Of
Appeals.
Cross examined by Mr.. shannon-I became . member
Of the Committee of Management, think, in 1s4s or
1S49 have been connected with the committee until
resigned my impression is that F. c. Benedict informed
that had been elected member and that he hoped
would accept the Times commenced the 18th of Sep
tember 1851 ct that time was anxious to increase the
circulation OF that paper and have been since;
sent out II 500 of the weekly and copies Of the
besides that these extra papers prior to the 18th
Of November, 1851 think, We bad published
weekly paper we started q weekly paper at the
same time with the daily these extra copies of
weekly papers sent out specimens; thought
that sending these weekly papers the subscribers Of
the Art Union would benefit circulation the circular
in regard to the Art Union separate from that Of the
Times Q-Are those bills in your hand writing? (handng
papers to the wness Ayes and the signatures in
the hand writing OF my partner; there not, think,
a distribution in 1852; was not present with any
president; there was something said afterwards about
paying the BILL the editor OF the HERALD and the editor
OF LAY BOOK we're OF malignant mlsrepreSen
ations respecting my connection with the American Art
Union do not think any other person misrepresented
me- had made several engagements, both Of business
and pleasure which were interrupted by my connection
with the Art Union; think resigned first about two
years before the final resignation, about year af
teri had become a member the next letter was sent
next year; only remember these two resignations do
not know who made the motion relative to the cleo
ton Of the members at Metropolitan Hall do not
know whether sny inquiry was made whether he was
member or not; have distinct recollection whether
that molten seconded or not, except the general
cond when the vote tahen remained until the pic
lures were drawn but did not remain until the medals
were drawn; the election was prior 70 drawing;
upon the platform with the otter members Of the
committee | do not know of any persons being
the platform who not members of the Art
Unioe, nor DO know that there any persons
among the audience who not members; the election
OF the seven retiring members might have occupied three
or five minutes am quite that the President waited
sufficiently long after putting the negative to allog OF
response the advertisements of the Art Uaon sent
20 the Office and the charges made By the advertising
clerk, whose duty It s to enter them in book Mr. Bra
DIV he Este he 10 ma for nd