The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-02-18

they would do indirectly by the bill which the gen.
tleman from New York has reported9
hr SEYMOUR replied by asking whether we can support
our government by direct taxatone
Mr. WAsHBuRN responded-Do not State govern.
mens do it, and may not the provinces be similarly re-
gardedp
Mr. SEYMOUR would reply by adopting the method pur-
by asking another quesonwhether he would for
repeal OF the Navigation laws at this time, and the i'm
position of direct taxes2
Mr. WAsHBuRN said he was not tall ing about direct
taxation and that if going in this way passing
the bill and breaking down onn interest after another
and inuronsly affecting the interests OF New England
and the West destroying protection piecemea and open
ing the coastng trade to all nations he would say let
direct taxation The ouly he opposed
to it that he desired to have protection but il we
cannot have it. then it would be more economical that
ton, and he would 80 for them.
Mr. SEYMOUR resumed saying he could not leave the
existed for long time in the eastern part OF the country
and Of which he reminded by the gentleman from
Maine He alluded to the doctrine Of protection to tile
manufacturing interests. But approaching a new
order Of things, and this eubect which legislation
cannot control 1t out Of the progress of
to manufacturers and by the liberalty of legislation
to invite the trade of all the world. No strong
cd protection when our manufactures were in
their infancy. but not now. Ho then proceed
operation OF this bill In this connection he said the
fishery question must be settled and something to
put this government terms of understanding with
Great Britain at least for temporary PERIOD If not per-
manently Something should be done by this Congress
otherwise we hazard Of collision which none like
to contemplate He had heard it said the British govern
men would not insist the absurd convention Of 1SlS
trary assertion BY this bin this question is TO be settled
ygaton Of the St Lawrence and of the St. John, and
the abolition of the export duty, which, since the
Ashburon treaty has been levied by the British colonies
upon the timber cut American soil and foated down
sites Of the bill devolved the treaty making power
He believed the British government willing to grant
what we ask in relation to these subjects If meet the
proposition Of reciprocity fair and just grounds.
Mr. BOWIE lwhg) Of Md asked whether the necessary
effect OF the bill was rot to allow the British colonies to
have all the advantages Of the coasng trade enjoyed by
citizens?
Mr. SEYMOUR replied that the question Of opening the
ports to the navigation of the two countries formed
part of the bill inasmuch as it involves repeal of the
navigation laws.
Mr. asked-Is not this the necessary effect of the
bill should it become lawS
Mr. SEYMOUR replied was confident there was no such
provision in the bill It does however refer to naviga
tion in Canada the canals and rivers but not to the
sea coast As he had promised to restrict himself within
an hour he would say no more upon the present
Mr.. c1ISGMAN, (whig) of N c., gave notice that he
should offer the following amendment t:-"Provded that
the government Of Great Britain shall agree with the
Of the United States that all the ports of the
British domnions and Of the United States respectively
shall be open to all vessels of both countries whether en-
gagged in the coastng trade other trade in the
manner and under like regulations they are now au
thOrzed to do with reference the foreign trade of the
two cOuntrieS.0
MIR WAsnBuRN likewise submitted amendment.
Mr. FULLER (dem of Me-, took this early occasion to
obtain the floor for the purpose of explaining his
position being member Of the committee which re-
going free trade man. the time he wished to be
understood believing that free trade in certain things
and protection in certain other things is the worst
system Of protection and operating njurously
certain industrial pursuits Of the country The
porant bearing the revenue question, we'll
that Of free trade In 1646 when the tariff question
its details to operate with something like equality on
all the great industrial pursuits of the country In that
m ns state W nc in part had
the production and manufacture of lumber was pro-
tecd at the rate OF 20 cent the coal and iron of the
great State of protected 30
difference in favor of the latter of third This BILL
so far as il affects the interests of Maine proposes to
strike of all protection leaving the people the most
burden of that tariff and revenue measure
While the planters of louisiana the growers of hemp
Massachusetts are protected Maine, which consumes
all their products produces only lumber, and this is to
be admitted from the British colonies comparatively free
by that is the prcrogatve OF the great Ash to eat
up the little ones on no other principle could he under
all ard protected all equally. and adjusted and
ranged the burden that It should fall equally
possible all. Go back to 1824-at that time Massa
chusetts eminently State Of and naviga-
on prior to that she opposed the protective pocybut
her interests changed, she became manufacturing
State did taxation bear heavily tMn Maine
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