New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-06-17

Wheel two or three tines 10 crosns trk.'n = ~ "a
nsst snd N Church st. the former when tsre
car hu; cot into tie groove At Intersections nc 49,
was n Church 50; ~ en- hotel coach drove oe'"e -
and the ~ les you 20 directly across The u'oA
Is danger OF caichir the wheels ..
By Jud gs-Thnk th@ Sixth rail rises ht1r Du' nS
nearly even with the pavement -,
Is! Mr. Eelo-The grade IN Barclay St. between w
lege place and Churchs track Of Sixth ard higlt"
rosdi / similar 20 that AZ Wing green Sosut 10 'e'
yer m'le HI grade in Chsmbersst. ncm W'> B'ssd'N
I" bIcsdsHy Is between 20 ma - feet 20 the mile inc
grace IN Hudson - htwesn Charlton and NSndSm SIS
about s. feet 20 the MIL: the highest pitch in C-nisrs 81
between Pear sud Chambers s cSnuot tell from this
msp. as believe. there has been some filing up within
two three years previous that the rise from Pearl 20
Chambers 81 about 100 feet the rise from Morris 20
Pire f. j. about 60 feet to the mile the Russ pave
neui in Broadway think railroad csud b. made 9TH
cot disturbing TIE concrete sspposng the Russ blocks
be 10 or l. inches # an inch groove i1 with
the pavement 90 not know but might be free from dan
ger If obsiru, ton do not say whether 1t would NJ MT
u the cars you take ont Of Broadssy 81 onabns@ AMI
sub tiiue Is each way stu think wouli ~ An III
jury ounibuses can get out Of the way think ear
ought be made 20 stop quicker thHn omnbuses pa-fu
larry where the Russ pavement Is do not know how many
car stop at Union square
Nv NJ Van Bur-n-There i some little curve bnt
much between Battery place and Morris 81 in Broadway
do net know practically whether can be made 60 stop
quicker than "mnbuse" sn inch grooNs "og!l cNus7 80
much friction 10 the hSnge 10 make dihcut Tor the
horses the hsug- made small enough 10 answer
for that sized groove would be too weak, should sup
pose.
roaus ID different Sstes but only for country Tor
steam. the smallest hApge have seen Is Il inches ~hrrr
attaches the wheel rounded at the rim have seen
both cast IRON ard wrought ron Ranges AR not prepared
10 say which is strongest; snge merely 10 keep the
cars the track should think # Ech and haf hsrge
answered high Of p-ed by in the country.
that three quarter. Of men, wrought non hnge. s'R
answer for speed Of six miles 10 the City by horses the
depth of the sfge for steam cars Is about Il ue1 ho
not know that City road aDge would b. dep enough At
three quarters Of an inch would not hazard less t1,n
one inch do rot know that concrete foundst would
net answer for railroad track, with iron tiers
Another witness csled by Mr. Van Buren,, but The
uoee said that fourteen have already been
suued the feasibility Of the road and is effect on the
property of the street and that enough that point for
ihe present VIII not preclude the counsel from Offering
further evidence by and by if Unnecessary
Mr. Field remarked that complainant should be required
Enish that point, there De DO end to reburtng
There 10000 petitioners for, and 10000 remonsrauts
against the road
The Judge thought It not worth while to accumulate
testimony.
ciLeer have been engaged several railroads al but
the BostOn aud Providence as Chief Engineer;
duaneo with Broadway and have read the grant Tor the
road not less than width Of the street would be-
disturbed HE the road beng constructed where the
street Is 80 iett wide land understand many parts ars
,s the space at each side would b. IL '-- aud one SIZE
would be CURED for materials for superstruclre and the
other part w,ul0 be- insufficient for the passing OF vehicles
81 no two could pass each other
By judge consier that during the construction
broadway would be impossible
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les time than three months and very large number %
vorkmen would BE- required even At that do not think
r~il would be practicable with but inch groove the
groves sixth and Eighth ay rail- are q inches wide
n. cars o those lines light AID carry each bur - pas
s.ngers .r have seats only ortha number think haog-
for IN il b groove would be difficult and dtogerous
sung that Broadway 10 feet vide there would be but
II feet inches either side of the cars a. the ears are
wider than the track when ordinary cart j. backed no
o the side walk with single horse, Il l. ID 10 IL feet from
head horse 10 eide walk 10 my opinion railway would
Is uU0
street think il oud seriously affect the value Of pro
perry and in very marked degree i've carriages and
bi,iHeas 4 I'D the street.
Ey Mr. Feld-I was employed by plaintiffs; male an
aGCa,it Wtch is attached To the complaint Tor which
received s25 expect 10 be pad for att ndng here no
,ariicuar terms have bccn madei CONSIDER my AZ
tendance here is professional at,crdauce | avn
Dos now engaged in ra'l road returned yes
have never been engaged exclusively City track
e iron 40 bear pressure than wrought iron ihsrr
are but few wrought r,n hnges used here in EMIL md
grout h iron anges sd; ther- i practical H nj
In kTg wrought r fangcs of three quarters Of ar
inch 1T there curves At ali such hapye with hor
ses and miles hour might answer the purposr hu
here short tur ing. As otenmes IN city IT,
A r.oue 10 Or of great strength sti think an met
give be u-aiIoi@i, a, II Above only 81 ~
fer imperfect workmanship and the play ot the VIII tls
have not eXsmin tbe & sufficiently T. til VIII the
uay the whe RI is there not much curvature in Broad
Wy hiuk ia hes projection Of side of ear from n lck
ould be Il east possible might answer Ight
have models of Iron Cars do not know h"w much
lighter than nov they could be made, II they could
De made at three inches projection a plan might be-
devised, perhaps to lay a road without disturb
ny the csncef the layer uUdsr the Russ pavement
| link with even oue inch groove, uavel would be i'm
p,d,d as the hors,s shoes would slip the iron Ill
oes would also be made they are al the SIDE Of All h'
CITY uat g. aud the crossing become impaired particular
IL N 50 ohQue direction iron rail might be made, ye
hat would create impeachment Ia travel from h@ slip
ug the horses and perhapsthe cork shoes Of horses
IN winter might get into the inch groove think rot
rail Of three incht would be sufficient width for Incl
GROVE inserted in IL il the Russ pavement used etc
-ide the rail- the horses shoe would probably ret on IN
/ paytment think railroad could be constructed tina
aouo impede crossing; the power of horse IL abou
Efficient draw 20 tuns level railroad the weigh
# sixty men 40 pounds each Is tuns Throwing IN
Conductor and the drivers n aud passengers, 10
futs sill horse. cannot be dtpeud.d upon T. draw
the ", ght up grade OF 10 feet To the mile il you'd
squal 70 o. tuns level the cars have male ~
hem never Jess than upward Of tuns they have been f.
steam carr do not know that a the Third av roa
geshs bur little than tun. ink iron Of
more THAI 3 tuns wight would he altogether too light
coubifit could year migh break d0wnthe first ~
link a. be durable should weigh good deal more
link q horse could draw four times much level Il
| car on a r il~ay, omnibus over cObble stOn
1ayement do lot now that could draw eight times
mu' allow even an iron three inch wide ran and on
iuch groove, think stu i would be nuisance As III
hoYses would be apt ~ get into the grooves, th
u,Quaes occasioned by settling of pavement would d
turb tie free If the street If the concrete were nc
| disturb Gthere would b. settling.
Pv Mr. Van Buren, The s25 were banded to me la
run about r three days measuring aud thing other
usual TO pay Engineers for services II tbs rails 90 eac
side II the bowling green there must be cOositerabl
curve the STANDARD works Railroads principal
Woods Treatise and COLDS and Mcneil report d
not know bow vide Whitehall and STATE streets are.
Ry Mr. Field II but line Of rails j. built At tin
vehicles could pass each other still il would BE- an pbsru
ton ia that three months would b. required n Ia
a road IN Broadway supposed that two gangs would D
EMPLOYED at 600 yards each do not think that gangs
men ud be placed lay the whole track wth0u
The crossings leaving them till after yards 10 week
is possible and Is pos-ibe that half the eros.