The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-04-26
THE REPUBLIC.

Mr.. Ayyel Huiei, an attacht Of tie Mericcn L eeo
Hon, recalled
By Mr.. CARLISLE. When did you sec Mr..
ARuilarl
Ans called to see him the morning after bis
arrival
CUES. Did he tell you where he was living?
Ans. He did not, but knew that he was living
at Willard's Hotel, because saw his name upon
the book the next morning.
Ours. You say that you met him at Willard 8
Hotel?
Ans Yes, sir.
CUES How long after this was it that you had
the conversation with him about what he was to
receive?
Ans The same day.
CUES Will you please state what passed between
you and him?
Ans Iasked him whether he came here to see
The country or to transact business He replied
that he did not come here a visitor to see the
country, but that he was brought here from New
I Orleans as witness aganat Gardiner. He then
asked me i'll knew Mr.. Barragan; replied that
did He then.inqured whether knew that Mr.
Barragan bad received $40. 900. replied that I
did not, and laughed ut him He then told me
that he had been offered in New Orleans by the
Government from twelve TO fifteen thousand dol
hrs, at which also laughed. ar
The DIsraIor ATTORNEY. You say that when he
said he had been offered twelve fifteen thousa nd
dollars. you laughed?
Ans. Yes, sir; because i knew the law only pro-
vidcd for the payment to witnesses of travelling
expenses, and dollar and quarter per day; told
hiIn that was the case with Barragan.
l.. Mr. CARLIsLE. Did you tell him that you talked
with Barrsgan on the subject?
! Ans did not
Ques Can you state any thing else that occurred
IN the same conversation with reference to this
subject?
A,,s. He then told me that he was inclined to be
! lieve that he would get nothing, if Mr.. Barragan
had received nothing.
Quss. State whatever else occurred at the sam :
| timer
Am He told mo then tbat ba ,,., ,.o;,, - 10 200
! Mr.. Slacum at Alexandria, to make some arrange
ment with him. The next time saw him be told
me that he had seen MIR. Slacum at Alexandria;
and that be had given him his word, as gentle.
] man and an agent of the Government that he (the
| wtness) would be paid what had been promised
him in New Orleans.
Ques Did you at any time dissuade him from
acting as witness in this case?
Ans told him that he would get nothing but
what the law allowed; and ! dssuaded him only
to that extent.
Quss You have spoken about what Mr. Barra-
gan got; will you please state what knowledge you
/ had upon that subject?
Mr. MAY objected to the question.
Ques. Where did you see Mr.. Barragan last?
Ans | saw him in New York. when he was
| leaving for New Orleans.
CUES. Had you any conversation with him upon
| the subject of his compensation?
MIR. MAY. object 10 having what Mr. Barragan,
what any body else said brought in as evidence.
Mr.. CARLISLE. | do not know that it would be
into the inquiry; and think it is due to the wit
ness that should be allowed to show by him
what Mr.. Barragan stated in New York, just before
his departure from New Orleans, as to the realza-
ton OF his expectations, TO show that what he
told Mr.. Aguilar simply the natural result OF
what he had learned from Mr.. Barragan.
The CouRr. do not think that what passed be-
tween them is strictly in evidence.
Mr.. CARLISLE. Did Mr. Aguar tell you what
money be received from the Government?
Ans he told me that somebody had brought
him two hundred dollars, but that he did not re-
oeve it
Quss. Did he tell you why he did not receive it
-4ns He said that his expenses were more than
! that amount. He told me at another time that
| Mr.. Sacum-though | am not sure about the
| name-brought him four hundred dollars, which
be did receive,
Cross examination.
Mr.. MAY. Is the letter which General Arista
wrote to Mr.. Rosa among the archives of the
| Mexican legation1
| Ans. Ne, il is not 1t was private letter.
Ques. Dld you not know that that letter repre-
sented the interest of Manuel Verastegui in this
/ clam9 500
| in particular. 4
Que, Did you not know General Arista wrote
that letter to Mr.. Rosa for the purpose of repre-
senting the interest of Don Manuel Verastegui in
! this claim?
Aas. No, sir.
CUES Do you know whether he had an interes
in this claim?
| aus. do not.
Ques Do you know whether Fernando de Guest.
was connected with your legation at that time?
Ans. He not connected with the legation II
any way. He wac private interpreter of MIR
/ Rosa
Quss Do you know whether he represented ar
| interest in the claim?
Ans. knew he represented somebody.
OURS Do you know whom he represented?
/ dns | do not
CUES Do you know how he got 10 represen
| that somebody?
Ans think Mr.. De Ia Rosa gave power O
attorney 10 Mr.. Cuesta.
MIR CARLISLE remarked that the question of the
! prosecution seemed to be wide of the issue, anc
| uniinportant, and that he did not think it wai
worth while to consume time with them.
MIR. May said that the witness had testified
touching the contents of the letter. and that be
was now trying to get at those contents.
Mr.. CARLISLE replied that the witness had stated
! them far he knew them.
Mr. MAY said, that may be as far as he has been
! interrogated.
| recollection was, that this claim was recommends
! ed by General Arsta to Mr.. Rosa on account Of
! the Mexican creditors of DR.. Gardiner The wit
ness cannot speak fany thing except of that par
| ticular letter.
CUES. Do understand you to say that General
Arista did not represent the interest of Don Ma
nuei Verastegui to Mr.. Rosa, and request him to
| take it under bis charge?
Ans. know that he wrote to Mr. De la Rosa
and told him to do any thing he could for this
claim account Of the Mexican creditors of DIR.
| Gardiner
Qtes. Were the names of the creditors men
| toned?
| Ans. did not hear the letter read
CUES. understood you to say that you had Wis
| tied MIR Aguilar at bis lodgings3
Ans. Yes, sir, / did.
CUES: Did you visit him there three times, or
! ofener?
| Ans. visited him three times, but do not
| think visited him oftener.
! CUES Did you dine with him more than once?
Ans dined with him twice.
CUES. Did you dine with him at Wizards Hotel?
Ans Yes, sir, once.
| Qies Have you visited him since be went to the
Avenue House?
Ans- Yes, sir.
CUES Have you visited him at the Irving House?
! Ans. No, sir.
Ques. Do understand you to say that you never
used any influence or argument of any kind to in,
duce Mr.. Aguiar not to testify in this case?
Ans. said nothing more to him than what
have already stated. told him that there was a
law which only allowed witnesses 81 Is per day
and mileage, and that that was all he would get.
CUES. On what ground did you conceive that
you called upon TO interfere and instruct this
man?
| MIR. BRADLEY objected.