The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-12-14


and to what amou.ts A heard Van AsnAn ssy II
about three four hupdred dollars the bank draft:
that have spoken about have alluded TO thoss ssnsa
q when you we're introduced by Van Asrnam to Abel
was not the purpose Of procuring you to cash draft
o Was not that cashsdS A Yes. sir; 1t was cashsi
for the Der Aoe that draft paid it
for s26 II was cashst about months prior
the meeting in Van Aernam's room made effort to
collect the money but failed fro the inability OF Abel
O when y,u passed sawiu in the street. before going
TO Van Aernan's room ord any conversation or words
pass between your Yes sir
when you met each other you not going towards
tie Mansion Hous. and Saving going in the opposite
erection A think s.Hin was standing At his store
coer; going to cards the Mansion House bat think
| vas on my way to my tihcs
q Bow many minutes walk is it from Sawn's store to
the kansi IN House2 A. should think about two
minutes; office Is not b-tweea Sawns house and the
hsDtion House it is en- the terrace; when | met Van
Aeiram The stairs think herwss going up stairs ALSO
when went in the m there one there that
there were no papers on the table tina. when
Mr. Sawin in the papers then introduced; II
about that time IL might have been before few
minute. afterwards Van Asrnam said that sawin would
be present in about half minute something to that
effect conversation in the together princi
pslly about the drafts; don't know that any of the
jeeted 70 'ome OF them In consequence OF their bad
writing; those objected TO by Van Aernam those
allied up by sawin Sawin did not ssssa any reason why
that recollect; wbe1 Van informed ,wiu that
he would not be harmed, if he did fiji them up don't
recoect that anything saic very 70 minutes after
sasin came 10 the drsfs we're Oiled up ss win and loft
the after the drafts filed up leaving Van
nam in the room; don't know whether sswin complied
with Van Aernams request in taking Of the drafts
to his store know pc ice officers Pierce and T. Ter;
know man BY the name of waldron; should think he
Is some fifty years If and has been looking glass
merchant; he formerly police officer
To Mr. Harrngton-rhe contents of the letter, which
'0.a me ne ass royce Wa a.; as iono
Your business before left New York on account
SHAH be in New YORK beios ions AND hope to meet 1s
don't reoosos the date Il this letter w.a after
Van Aernsm's arrest left New York the Tuesday
Van AsrnAms took place tina Friday following
ant wrote thi letter from the Sunday io
loving the arrest the business alluded to in the letter
fifty cents the dollar; know or Sswin doing
Tor ' an Aernam he filed up a baak note for him. he
also has written business letters for Van Aernam.
To the Justice-l should think the whole amount paid
me by Van Aernam So SEQ, in Canada currency;
about 81 ico Of that Snount in payment of tebt
dn. me, the balance paid him back in current money
Van Aernsm has yed me 81 400 for about two months
az IN other sums OF one and two hundred dollars for
Q. DID you know that Immediately preceding the OBJ
ainng this drsft OF So COO he utterly unable to pay
you! 4. Ne, he told nee that he bad sold a place in
Michigan for 81 800 and that mis- father inlaw owed him
$500, which he expected every day; loaned him the
MONEY
G. Did You not lean money TO him security of
dian ond breast pin and finger rngsy A. Yes, have,
and was fully secured FOR the loan.
DE- you not call upon him fer the special purpose of
getting his money? A &c .old If l called there he
weud settle with me- had seen him before that day
he ssd me- money for the Arm
O. Was It not well understood, previous to hs going
Iapaca WITH these drafts that II successful
raising money, his return he would qlidate all his
deos with YOU A. No sir, he told me thst he intend
ed to psy with the money he got from Michigan and
his father IN law.
O. Answer me, If the payments OF the money by Van
Aernsm in his room to you not folio -Tnat he
then your hands until you should be perfectly
satisfied for al the debts he owed you also as to
ahon what you ought to have OF these Canadian funds
that he did continue until 81 4so paid $3.50 of
which wss estimated to redeem diamond breast pin,
about $500 10 take up paper securities yeu held
several
loans which he had from tire TO time received from you
the balance being well understood you as your
share OF tie the $4,000 a. No. sir, such thing
CURED; he paid me money in Lis room but not under
such circumstances.
Mr.. Bhss counsel for Mr. Aber wished to r,ss.ex-
the witness in order TO show that the SIS draft
spoken of BY him. draft drawn BY Abel the
amount Of the draft has been paid through Mr.. Van
AerDam Justice stuart remarked IL at it
sary he felt sAtisHed that the draft had connection
with the matter under investigation.
Justice stuart then closed the and after few In
troductory remarks hng the evidence OF j. White,
read the following opinion derived from the testimony
given by the witnsss;-
OPINION OF THE MAGISTRATE.
II one o. the facts = this case mat Jabez White,
stand 10 testify under spicion with
pec Linn OF being party concerned With Van Asrnam,
sawip and othe,s in the fabrication OF these bank
drafts and equally true not only that the Law did
require him 10 give soy evidence fencing crminsts
himself Of which bs advised by and carefully
nformec b. his counsel whose presence he being ~hai
but witness, was deemed necessary to preserve his
W
that II b. chose not avail himself OF this protection by
the law, bat declared his willingness to disclose he
knew Of the matter and thus pretending should
theess uilfu, fslify any Of the case or de-
sigIeciy withhold important matters within his know.
he or ays s.rsnt version ns an n waa.
standing Of acts and things than which he may con-
eeve they expressed or otherwise attempted in what
he said to deceive or nsead his evidence should not
avail anything against those in respect 10 whom he
brought to testify, but tho contrary, should be made
to operate against himself AID sufficient in connection
with ecun stances to show hs probable guilt
ter 2rise for extensive fraud upon individuals and
banks, as well in this STATE Canada, he would be
charged with the preparation of felony in connection
with Abel sAwu and Van Aernam And now having heard
what Mr. White has deemed It best for him 10
and that it may bs known upon what grounds the action
pre- pose to take Is predicaed PEELED declare
that IN judgment having reference to all the facts
within my knowledge, this witness has many his
answers to the questions prope unded, made wul mis-.
statements perverted many facts and withheld much Of
tie truth and further that hs wing in some
OF his more truthful answers, IL connection with the
other circumstances proofs in the case he is in nv
opinion guilty Of conspiracy fraud upon
banks anc brokers' as OF ths parties under
sstoD and is equally criminal wi ID Van and sawin
IL the particular fabrication In Van Aerna M the
Mansion House Of these false Hamilton Exchange Baak
drafts which now more especially ths subject OF the
com plants before me or this hitter fact am almost
without any doubt and quite confident th.t if these
crafts the subjects OF forgery alleged by unse
for compairants and eenisd oy counsel defendants
9nt tot JET dselmined, jury Of their county viii
probably convict White OF the offence Of eloniousy max
ing them, sther OF those under arrest for that
crime. Under these circumstances with conviction Of
his disposition 10 cheat By criminal means and in cons
6erston q his greater facilities by o. imme
date connection with the businsss of the banks and the
currency OF the State, to deaud others by the subtle
and silent Sgency of fo god paper agsnst which neither
wisdom ner eauiiop can guard / believe il nv duty TO
require Mr. White 10 answer for felony and so do
order him into custody party accused with the
OF the forgery OF these instruments.
At tho conclusion OF the reading the magistrate ordered
officer Elder to take Mr.. White into custody. The
shock Of almost electricity every one in the
court but especially to Mr.. White and his counsel
who had all song believed because ad tted give evil
deLcs he would be held harness but the magistrate has
thought ohtr~ise and has placed him OF the
defs The then adjourned until 10 ,lock
Thursday morning, when the respective counsel will
up the case.
Investj- alton or the Charges Preferred
Against the Chief Engineer
Tie committee sppoin ted TO investigate the charges
preferred again Alfred Carson the Chief