The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-01-12

backing out and il expected that would not in
sst that any expression should go into the treaty which
might wound her suscepbiities ...
Ms. CASS. VIII the senator state who made The re-
mark 4 Dy..l. s.. ~ -
Mr.. SOULE. The remark was made by Colonel King
andeIsood that the right 10 cut certain species
OF timber might still be exercised independent OF the
treaty, because that right could under circumstances
imply right Of ownership But il expressly de-
clarcd thai such The under standing OF the high
tracing parties and that whatever OF obscurty, II OBJ
security there weIe might be found IN the article was
meant 10 protect the keen susceptibility exhibited the
occasion by the British negoliaor .e-H.vI
The treaty afterwards came before us here. l labor
here under difficulty TO the question whether or
not permitted to relate what transpired in secret
aess0n. would like to be enlightened upon the sub.
ject. comparatively young SENATOR and should
be glad to be enlightened upon this point before proceed
he PRESIDING OFFICER. (alr MAscvn, The
injunction OF secrecy mol having been removed the
ator cannot refer TO the proceedings on that subject IN
Mr. DOUGLAS Cannot tho injunction Of secrecy be
now removed s, b, BY unanimous consent
Mr.. DOUGLAS II the injunction can be removed
now by unanimous consent, do not suppose there will
The PRESIDING OFFICER. II is not competent for
the body 10 act executive business except in
Mr.. CASS. believe we are not obliged to have ex-
ecusye sessions with closed doors would therefore
suggest that go into executive session with open doors
It will not take us minute TO remove the injunction OF
secrecy. THIS is very important matter 10 the Ameri-
people. and ior having everything in regard to
Mr. SOULE | take it, then. as the sense of the Senate
The PRESIDING OFFICER The senator canno,
proceed in the opinion Of the Chair narrate the pro-
csedings Of the Senate in session, unless where
the Injunction Of secrecy has been removed. n#
M. BUTLER As this subject is likely to be very
freely discussed and as gentlemen cannot now do them
selves justice, move that the Senate proceed the
sideation Of executive business. -
Mr. GWlN. :, hope the motion will not be agreed to.
MIR Ne pp1 nj clO fhut
Mr.. MASON. | would submit 10 the honorable SEN
atos whether may not be establishing preceden,
The PRESIDING OFFICER The present occupant
Of the Char clearly the opinion that no allusion
be made 10 any question purely executive, except in ex
Mr. WALKER Can there be anything more sacred
in the secret proceedings OF the Senate the consdea
ton OF this treaty than has been already advered to BY
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Senators may have gone
beyond the true limits 1t has been usual permit
tors TO disclose their action upon question
scutive session affecting nobody else but themselves
but utterly against all usage the Chair understands
to allow any auson at all in open session TO any ques
ton OF executive character unless where The njunc-
ton OF secrecy has been removed
Mr. CASS suppose il is perfectly in order for the
gentleman to make any supposous that he pleases
provided he gives no names,
Mr.. BUTLER. Oh, no. It weuld not be well TO do
The PRESIDING OFFICER then pa, the question
on the motion TO proceed to the consideration of
tive business, and twenty-five senators in the
MIR. PEARCE. Before the negative is put. desire to
ay that have objection to The notion ii the under
standing be that 10 have executive session in
the usual manner, with closed doors.
Mr.. MASON That is my understanding
Mr.. GWIN. ] will ask the Chair if it is intended
thai af f1ssqs s,s a be held with doors
ognise executive session with open doors
Mr.. SEWARD vote in the negative, for the pur-
pose OF making quorum, and not because am opposed
to the notion "
The motion was agreed to, there being on division
IS ayes and IL noes.
at@oa1 .ea EXECUTIVE SESSION. (. ETY..
The Senate accordingly proceeded to the consideration
Of executive business and after time spent therein,
the doors were reopened, and the Senate adjourned.