The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-03-16

Tor from Virginia 10 take up lhe military appropriation
hill il ANYTHING could be accomplished by SO doing
MIR HUNTER, lin his seat) We can pass II in
short time.
Mir RUSK | think not. Gentlemen are moving
amendments The bill and II will share exactly The iate
OF all the appropriation bills for the last two Three
years. All the amendments will go 10 a committee OF
conference and they will decide al last therefore re-
gard the time to-day thrown away very great ex
tent which shall devote 10 the consideration OF that
bill do not think lis passage will be facilitated by ta-
king il up this morning, The honorable senator from
Louisiana has given notice at various times that he would
call up his bill He has yielded very frequently. and
am satisfied that his bill will consume very little, IL any
time at all and sincerely hope that he will have OPP
porunity oil bringing il up Therefore, anxious as am
10 dispose OF the army appropriation bl must vote
against taking II up in order that the senator from
Louisiana may be accommodated. and because think
the result, any how, will be, that committee OF confer
ence Will regulate the whole matter.
MIR. HUNTER. There will be no time tor a commit
tee OF conference even 10 examine the amendments and
compare opinions, unless act with despatch to- day
The argument of the senator would apply against taking
up the bill at any lime, for there will be debate. can
not stop it wish could
Mr. DOWNS. really think that should have this
favor extended 70 me, considering tbs manner 10 which
have absained from debate on this and other bills have
saved much OF The time OF the Senate by abstaning
from debate would allew my bill 10 be disposed OF
This of the last days that shall be in the Senate,
and the bill 10 which refer, and which wish TO have
disposed of is the only in which now feel any
great interest and really hope that, under the crcum
stances, the senator from Virginia will have the magpa
nimy 10 insist upon his motion until twelve o'clock.
AT that hour will yield to him.
Mr. HUNTER, | cannot withdraw my motion |
wish could accommodate the from Louisiana,
but have higher euly here TO discharge than that OF
personal courtesy
The question being then taken, On division there
were--ayes 81, noes not counted; the motion was
agreed to-
ARMY APPROPRIATION BILL
The Senate then resumed as in committee of the
whole, the consideration OF the bill making appropria-
tons for the support Of he army for the year ending June
80. 1854
The kRESIDlNG OFFICER When the Senate ad
ourned yesterday, The Question before the Senate
an amendment moved by the senator from Massachusetts,
lMr DAVIS, 10 strike out part OF the proviso in relation
to the superintendent OF the public armoes and insert
another provision. The immediate question: however,
was on The amendment proposed by ihS sensor from l-
nols Mr.. SHIELDs] to that amendment s
Mr.. WALKER 1t understand it, the correction that
has been made this morning in the Journal changes the
entire position of the question. That correction affects
The PRESIDING OFFICER The eaec, of that cor
recon is that The motion TO reconsider faiIed
Mr. WALKER. Consequently all the subsequent
The PREsbING OFFICER The The iJ Chair was of
that opinion yesterday when the Question was suddenly
stopped He thought ha, the Senate, refusing 10 strike
out the provso had thereby agreed TO retain the whole
OF it, and that hence the amendien Of the senator from
Massachusetts would be out OF order but having ex
amned the question, he is now OF the opinion that the
from Massachusetts, is only 10 strike out part OF that OF
which the Senate refused TO strike out the whole II is
therefore IN order and the rs question is on The amend
ment proposed by the senator from Illinois 10 that amend
meDt.
MIR SHIELDS. believe my honorable friend from
Massachusetts, is willing TO accept it, does not inter-
fere in any way with his amendment
The PREsIDlNG OFFICER. Then, the question ia
on the amendment OF the senator from Massachusetts,
as modified TO strike out all of the pTovso alter the word
. nexi,' and insert the iolowing 81
That the of Congress approved Angus; 23 1892 be
90 modified that the President may, # ia his opinion the
who does not belong the army dad pro-
Utded J1her That the Secretary OF War be directed
cause the necessary aud proper inquiries be instituted
through the medium OF commission Of civilians and mill
tary men, with view OF asceralnng which of the
systems IS the more economical, efficient, and ,se, for the
managenent oi the public amoriesthat formerly existing
under the superintendence Of civil officers that
listing under the superntendeuce of officers Of the ordnance
next session.
Mr., RUSK desire TO say a very few words upon that
amendment In the first place, is contradictory 10 lis
terms lhe bTst part OF II proposes that the President
may he chooses 10 do so, appoint civil superintendent
or supernlendenls Of the amores of the United States
he remainder OF is totally inconsistent with that part,
because II proposes inquiry upon which this action is
TO be akeD not TO be returned 10 the President but
submitted 10 the next Congress.
Mr. SHIELDS The honorable senator will permit me
to say, as do not want TO make Speech and he him
self opposed 10 delay, that il is not inconsistent II
leaves TO The President 10 place the arnores under mill
tay or eTil superintendence now but il also eques him
to report as 10 The pfopreiy OF regulating this system for
The future for the action OF Congress- that at the
session settle 1t finally way the other upon
correct and ascerained information, which have
now.
Mr.. RUSK. The honorable senator and differ.
think the amendment is Inconsistent because IN the first
part propose. 10 the President the discretion of
saying whether he will have military or civil superinend
ence.
Mr.. SHIELDS, lin his seat) For one year.
Mr.. RUSk And in the same amendment you require
board, 10 be composed OF military officers and civilians
TO make an inquiry and 10 report TO you al the next
sion OF Congress.
Mr.. DAVIS. | would suggest TO the honorable sena-
tor IRON Texas, aud also TO the honorable senator from
Illinois, that the amendment may be easily amended
TO make the meaning itself harmonious. propose that
the President of the United States may at his discretion
appoint civilian, or officer OF the army, and then sup
pose that the amendment OF the senator from Illinois,
which have accepted, should read
Aud Ia order to enable him do # his seti,fso-
ton, he DO hereby authorized appoint commission con.
sis.ing OF civilians and military men," &o
MIR RUSK Tha, would make the amendment, con-
sisten with itself, bat yet not agreeable 10 me-
Mr.. SHIELDS AS / want 10 get rid OF this question
in any way that is fair agree to the suggestion OF the
senator from sscbuse,ts, and presume that no one
can then object 10 The amendment
Mr. RUSk shall s, object 10 it,
Mr.. HUNTER hope we shall have vote.
Mr. RUSK As have the floor, hope shall be al
lowed to express my reasons Tor my vote.
Mr.. SHIELDS As I cannot satisfy the honorable
senator in any way will just leave the amendment,
stood originally without adopting the proposed mod6ca
uon OF the senator from Massachusetts,
Mr.. RUSk. Then have more objection TO The amend
ment than II il were modified suggested by the sena
tor from Massachusetts, Here 1t is proposed TO esab-
sh new officers, and 1T is not said how many. Ii is
board may consist OF three or Jour- or i may consist
OF twenty. Ii is commission This rs the establish
nnpn nj lac, duy of officers