The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-04-09

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per only concern the validity of such paper in the
A.s. WI be knovsA. the q paper prIsent
ID to any 6aboaal 10 Examined Accordin9 to the
lights Of jqticial prinoes on'As part of tue ma
lion from watch il come If iathat country there
sealed papsr ia order u make tArm valid, court
win or Ought to examise the isgitinacy Of such
according - these lavs
Qwes. Does he not know that the laws of Mexico
upon this subject have nothing to do with the laws
Of the United States?
Ans. 1t is sufficient TO know that MEXICO and
the United States two different nations. to com,
prehend that the legal systems Of both countries
are entirely independent; but it this business be
not judged according to the laws OF Mexico. he
does not know to what laws it shout, be subjected
CUES Ask him if he recollects at what date he
left San Luis Potosi for Tama uiipns! ,k4ag
Ans. About the month of May, 1850.
CUES. At what time did he 60 to Mata"oras!
once.
: Ques. When did he go from San Luis Potosi to
5000 19
Ans. In May, 1851. he left San Luis Potosi and
went to Morelia. and from thence he went to
Mexico and Vera Crus
CUES. When did he take up his residence in
dns la the month of June, 1851.
CUES. Where? Lass
Ans. In Vittoria, the capital.
Ques When did he remove to the district of Ma
tauoras! a sslr
Ans. On the 18th or 18th of February last year
Cues Where does he reside in that district?
Aus In the port Of Matamoras, the head OF the
district
Cues. Did he last year see Antonio Barragan in
Matamoras?
-Ans. He did.
CUES. Has he had any letter from him since he
saw him there!
Ans. He has not.
CUES. Nor any message or communication?
Ans Not any. He has not him since he
saw him in Matamoras last year.
CUES. When did he leave Matamoras for the
United States?
Ans On the second Of February last.
Cues. Was be summoned by the United States?
Ans No, sir
Ques Where was he when first asked about
coming here as a Witness!
Ans. In New Orleans.
Cues. Did he or not communicate to the Mexi
can consul at New Orleans that he au import
ant witness in this case?
Ans. He says he was ignorant Of this business
in the category OF which it is. While in New Or
leans, his papers were revealed. He treating
with the consul for the purpose Of getting pass
port to Havana, and it being made known to the
Mexican consul who he was and whore he resided
it was understood that he might know The seal OF
San Luis Potosi, and some Of the persons concerned
in this business from that State.
CUES Had he been residing in Matamoras for
nearly two years at that timer
Ans. No.
CUES. Were the papers to which he i.as referred
as being revealed, his passports from Matamoras
or San Luis Potosi?
Ans They were his professional papers
Qaes. Did he have to chow ouch papers to the
consul?
Judge OF the court of first instance OF Matamoras
to show his position a Mexican, because no per-
son can be a judge In Matamoras without being a
Mexican citizen
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and the consul? If not, let him state all.
Ans. Respecting what?
Ques. Respecting this case?
MIR. MAY. The business on which he came here
Witness. That is very simple He was in New
Orleans on his own business, and was about to
return to bis own country; but no vtssel Icing in
New Orleans bound to Vera Cruz, he had deter
mined to go by way OF Havana, and accordingly
he went to the house Of Messrs. jennings to ia Ike
his passage. He was there informed that to go to
Havana II was necessary to have passport from
the Spanish consul. He proceeded to the h'.use of
the Sanish consul, and in order to obtain his pass
port the consul told him it was necessary to know
to what country he belonged; aud learning that
he was Mexican, he was informed that he would
require passport from the Mexican consul. He
applied to the Mexican consul to whom, in order
to make himself known, he showed his papers as
Judge Of Matamoras. Being countrymen was
they entered into conversation, and the
consul learned from tn interview that his ha btua
residence was San Luis Potosi that his profession
was that OF lawyer, &c. This gave rise to the
consul to remark, that persona were needed here
who knew the authorities of the State of San Luis
Potosi, and there was q short relation made to hm
respecting this business. He replied to the consul,
positively, that be could not come. Then the
brother of Mr.. May, who was present, serving as
inter prefer, he redoubled his request in such a
manner that be did not believe himself excusablr
from coming to Washin ton to give his testimony,
especially when it was told him that il wac bust
meas which was bout to be concluded, ana that he
would not be detained here more than eight daye
That was what passed.
CUES. Ask him how much he has demanded
from the Government of the United STATES for com
ing here a witness?
Ans. He says you understand very we'll that a
person does not put any price upon himself, be
cause that would be mean. Nobody has made any
invitation to him on that point; that he came he
On his own expense. and until fifteen days ago tbs
500 >'' . O'''''O 70
Mr.. CARLISLE. understand him that up about
fifteen days ago he received $500.
Ans. Yes: that is what he said
MIR. BRADLEY. And my question how much
be has demanded from the Government for com
ing here to give his testimony?
Ans He has already said that it would be base
Tor him to say to the Government, "Give me gu
much money for my testimony" This would be
done by no other person than by him who was not
gentleman.
CUES. Ask him again how much he demanded
rom the Government in the presence Of Mr. Ar.
argos or Dablesteen for coming to give his testi
mony?
Ans. Not single rial, because he don't know
What Is understood by Government, and says that
he has not touched on such point in the presence
" Mr.. Arrargos, or Dablesteen, or any body else
The question was again repeated, and the same
answer given.
Cues. Has he or not said that he would expect to
receive from Government a certain sum-naming
that sum-if he came here to testify?
Ans He has not told anybody any such thing
frankly that from the moment he was
forced out OF his way in order to here he had
supposed that his expenses would be Unidentified
That, he says, is just. And besides that h save,
this is not business which il discussed between
persons.
Ques Has he not said to The counsel Of the United
States that he could not stay here and give testi
mony in this case unless he received some CON-
pensation?
Ans. He has said to the counsel of the United
lhsm3 that he bad come from New Orleans to this
as having a right to have bis expenses paid; and
all this because it ia vigorously just and the gen
tlemen have agreed to it.
Quss And that ia all that he has said to them on
the subject of compensation?
Ans. That is all that he has said.
Cues. When were the papers in this suit first
phGwG to him?
Ans. The mining title, the mining ordinances,
and another small book, in which are contained
the legitimate scala of San Luis Potos in different
shown to him about twenty days since. s
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