The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-03-17
NEW YORK LEGISLATURE.
Senate.
ALBANY, March 16, 1859

ALBANY, March 16, 1855
THE AssEhBLys RAILROAD TOLL BILL.
Mr. MeMrRrAY (dem.) from the majority of the Com
mtiec on Finance (Messrs. McMurray and Conger) re.
ported fayoraby the Assembly bill relative to tolls ON
the railroads and taxation.
Mr.. MoIcAS, (whig, member OF the Finance Commit
tee)-I compelled to dissent from tho report OF
majority, the ground that there public necessity
for this law.
Mr. McMrRRAY moved il special order ga .uray
Mr. NANDEmuT (dem.) proposed to amend so as to
make it special order Immediately after the special or
dcr-his proposed constitutions enmcnt-s disposed
Mr. sicNrIRAy thought that in question Of this i'm,
Iorance the time of its consideration should be 70
definite This constitutional proposition to pay
debt but to increase it. There is public demand for the
bill lie had reported 1t had passed the popular branch
and demanded precedence over all else
Mr. CoSGER (dem.) thought the bill might be made a
concurrent special order with the constitutional
ment.
Mr. MoMrRRAY wanted to have the bin set down for
day-ncar or disant-not contingent date, with bill
having no connection with It.
Mr WILLIAMS (wg) adv ocaed considering the copsti.
tutional amendment irst.
Mr. Busroi dcm) thought that if this bill was as al
legged by the Senator from the Third Mr. McMurrs w. ut
tery different from the constitutional amendment the
Assembly had put very strange title their bill Both
should be examined to sec which contemplated tax.
One is antagonisc TO the other and both must be
dered simultaneously II is unfortunate the friends
Of this bill to proclaim that they to enlarge the canal
without tax when the very hill procaims tax 1t is
strange that this haste Is asked for bill pre- cmncnty
tax bill
Mr. McMrRgAy thought Mr. vanderb,lt's motion would
lead to the utter dismissal of this bill passed by the peo
pies last elected representatives lie believed the State
moved by political and moral necessity to resist the
taxation The cry OF taxing the people and taxation did
not shock him. He had voted before for taxes heavy
taxes and bad been told that If he did the wrath OF
the people would drive them of. The people sustained
| HIN. They only drove into minority that party who
had plunged the State into millions Of debt. The people
bad sustained those Who had restrained the tax policy
The advocates Of the fifteen twenty million debt yeie
blown away where they again heard Of He
had voted for taxes before ard willing to vote for
them again but would not so long as he had voice in
the Leeishtnre, vote for the imposition Of dobt The
twelfth article sis Of the constitution embodied the
policy OF 1s42, when the dishonorod credit of the
State OF New York was redeemed. No man. in period
Of imitation Ike. this would mortgage his personal pro-
Iery to its full yare-he payment contingent future
ought not TO be done in the public policy. Mr.. McM
considered the policy he advocated that Of President
jefferson and President Pierce. debt policy may do
for strong despotism, but not for democratic ad.
Mr.. coolIy cicm) regretted that it had become the
custom to Put over the regular business The senator
from the Third hpd burg Buncontc speech boastpv OF
what nc nd With other foolish Representatives in 1872
stopping the public vork-an outrage the public in,
terests oi the sate-provng. by what he says how u
ery ignorant he Of the subject he acted on There
was no such doplorable state Of things in 1872 in
gard to debt as 10 require that niudcious and impro.
rer act He has proved that he was utterly ignorant
INC state OF public affairs He protested against hang
ing buneombe and foolish speech, motion 10 set
aside the n 2ular business or the Senate
/ Mr. NANpEiEtT said II had be attributed to the
friends OF his amendment that there design to
close the mouths Of those who opposed It, They had
sucn Invention. How could they, IL they desired Those
mouths would be as capacious as words coald make
them He presumed be the intention OF the Senator
from me Third and his concde, ate talk to death the
\ proIositlon to amend the constitution
Mr. McMuRRAy-1here Is no necessity 10 tall IN death
what is already dead.
Mr. VANDERBILT said he had taken the ground fearless
ly and he proclaimed now-that there no necessity
TO grind down the people OF the State BY TAXATION in
order to procure tho necessary to complete the ca
nsst while the canal: have In themselves the
Inherent power to complete themselves. ysnsrsonien