The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-05

in The emsnt if there is will their part TO
do H. and therefore shall vote against the proposition 10
decline conference Ii | am mistaken in the impress
sion that the House have sought TO render this ssoord
nate body IT, having entertained that idea, they begin
to find they cannot succeed in carrying out, am will
ling 10 give them opportunity of receding am will
ling 10 assist them 10 recede from that posilon and there
fore shall vote in favor of accedng TO the proposition
TO appoint another committee OF conference But would
say, appoint the members which were on The last
committee lwoud therefore suggest thai with the gen
era understanding the part OF the Senate that we a
here precisely what occurred in the previous commit
tee and not vary from it hairs breadth and then leave
It open to the House Tor new aclon We shall then
know their deteTmination and ascertain whether am
right in the supposilon have made their views.
That is one reason why in favor of another commit
tee II is because think that commillse. when they
meet the committee on the part OF the House. Will tell
them have in the Senate determined 10 adhere 10 the
result OF the first conferences do not mean TO be treat
ed as subordinate body and now we will place you IN
situation where, with full knowledge OF this. your
House may take their course. and willing TO
ct the responsibility before the country.
These in brief, the why shall vote against
the present resolution and vote Tor accedng 10 the re-
quest OF the House TO appoint another committee not
grounding myself, as have state, on the position that
in the particular amendments there is anything which
would require me, IT II were an isolated case, to lake
stand against the action OF the House, differing from
the Senate but that connecting together all the matters
to which have adverted, have arrived at the concu
sion that there is determination on the part OF the
House TO assert the power OF numbers TO the control
over the State supremacy OF the different States rep
resented in this body. II is with question OF dig
nifty, uu question that view belonging % the rights
OF my State, and am willing to stand by those rights at
any aud all hazards.
MIR DAWSON. think there is a very great mistake
the part OF some senator's in relation 10 the Of
the House OF Representatives this bill. The House
OF Representatives did disagree to the report of the COM
mittee OF conference; but motion was made to
slider that. That motion, however, failed, laid
upon the table, but The House, the Senate sent
message to them, announcing the fact that the Senate
had agreed to that report standing its disagree
men on the part of the House, they Immediately took
and bad fnra nnfhar nf
ference, thereby putting aside their disagreement and
presenting themselves petitioners this body for an
other committee OF conference They are therefore the
movers IN relation TO this matter. They have right to
insist upon their disagreement often they please
They have done so but once, and soon we notified
them OF our agreement they receded by calling for
other conference. What more could they do Where
the attempt 10 impose upon this body, TO exercise
any power on their part derosatory to character
There is none at all They ask for another committee
OF conference and why should we not grant i
Mr.. MASON. beg leave TO say TO the Senate that
have been now for more than three hours discussing
what we shall do with simple message from the House
OF Representatives stating that they have disagreed 10
the report OF the COMMITTEES OF conference, and ask for
second conference The motion made to lay that
ded vote thus informing that is the intention of this
body 10 agree to the second committee of conference
asked for by the House Why not do it at once' Why
take time in debate, when it is admitted by the SEN
ate that that 10 have another conference
Mr.. President, there was lime when it was consd-
cred unparamenary TO refer 10 what takes place in the
OtDeT House, 1urtDef t0an tney mad informed fet
gentlemen have discussed what has been said and pro-
posed in that House 1t is dscouryeous it is unpara-
men,ary. We know nothing OF what takes place there
but as they inform They have informed that they
disagreed TO that report and asked Tor another confer
ence. Now, if al liberty TO reer what tax es
place in the other House, | would suggest this am
unInformed about the matter; conjecture mefely but
in that bill have undertaken 10 raise certain salaries
Ii may be possible that the House is sensitive than
we are upon The subject OF raising salaries and
ton with regard TO inai may have influenced them do
4 havp
asked for another committee OF conference, we have
decided IN effect to give II 10 them, and ask thai we
shall do II al
MIR. RUSK. | object 10 its being Considered that by
the last vote taken agreed to the conference asked by
the House. deny that we have decided 10 have a
mlttee OF conference. | moved that we should decline
the request OF the House. and yet voted against laying
the subject the table, although have not changed my
opinions at ALL The honorable senator IRON Virginia
says we have treated the House with dIscouItesy-
Mr. MASON. No, sir; have not said So
Mr. RUSk, ! understood the senator TO use some ex
pre- OF that kind
Mr. MASON | said there was a time when the par
liamentary law was acknowledged, and ha, parliament
AIRY 9w prohibits TO refer any proceedings OF the
other House, further than they themselves inform us
The only knowledge have is that they have disagreed
TO The report OF The committee, and ask for another
ference. thought II discoureous according to par
lamenary law, 10 be referring 10 what might have been
said in the other House.
Mr. RUSK | understood the senator 10 say that II
was dscoueous TO refer 10 the proceedings OF The House
lie febuked some OF Us for referring 10 what took place
the proceedings OF the House himself
Mr. MASON | beg the senator 10 understand me. |
merely conIectured what took place the House have
not heard one word o il. nave not heard II innaed
in debate conf, ctured, and coniectured only
Mr. RUSk. Then, will jusi conjecture this The
House asked conference, and the Senate n the temper
which II has usually exhibited, yielded nearly all ls
amendments but the House refused agree the report
OF the committee OF conference, II they expected the
Senate 10 rscede from the OF their amendments and
asked for another committee. am unwilling 10 give IN
do not intend 10 proong the discussion but far as il
depends on me, want an opportunity OF recording my
vote against another committee OF conference
Mr.. WELLER ] simply desire 10 say in answer 10
my friend from Virginia that not aware that there
bad been any test vote taken this question | made
the moon 10 lay the message the table for the pur
pose OF getting nd OF one Of The Improbable debates
that have ever listened 10 in The Senate | have not
heard the first new idea advanced for the last hour and
half on the question. There has been constant repe.
ton OF The same eosrse OF reasoning and debate on the
part OF some senator's TO show that the Senaes dignity
has been offended by the conduct OF the House Every
body must have that the Senate intended 10 appoint
committee oil conference called for by the House of
representatives Nobody could doubt that and vet more
than three hours OF The precious lime of the Senate have
been consumed IN the discussion OF it. NV object in
moving that the subject lie the table was not because
was opposed to the appointment OF the committee but
because was unwilling to sit here and hear a constant
repetition oil the same arguments did say to the hon.
orabe senator from Virginia, previous 10 his obtaining
the 0oor that would give him $500 for every new idea
he would advance this question: and yet he has con.
tented himself with repeating what think was said in as
good language by gentlemen on the other side of the
chamber
only desire that il shall be understood that in making
that motion to lay the table, wanted 10 stop of
the Improbable Of all the Improbable debates that
II has been my misfortune 10 listen TO. have lis
tened TO genienen who did not to apprehend
the question, else had not sagacily enough TO dis