The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-01-05

ELpsl il his motion embraces all which he desires
The petition OF the physicians OF Boston, and evidence
taken in connexon with NJ, now before the Commit
tee Military Affairs; and will inquire If il will not
be necessary TO report that memorial back and ask TO be
discharged from the further consideration OF IT, and let
the whole subject be referred to the select committee
together
Mr. SHIELDS. That can be done after the select
committee Is appointed have concluded MIR President
10 make no motion Tor the appointment of select
mee Tor believe II is The usual in OF that
Kind Tor the mover OF the motion to be placed upon the
committee as chairman Ia this have desire to
act upon The committee 10 he chosen and shall there
lore make no motion but will request some honorable
senator to make the motion that the President of the
Senate appoint the select committee, whom the whole
subject shall be referred that we may get rid OF il il
possible.
MIR WALKER cannot see that the objection which
made is al all obvlated by the explanation of the hon
orabe senator from Illinois. Ii the motion be now made
Tor the appointment OF select committee, all which can
be referred to that select committee what now before
the Senate. But, sir. in order that the Committee on
Military Affairs may have It's own views and proceedings
in this matter carried out, will suggested BY
the honorable senator from Illinois. chairman OF that
committee that select committee OF five be appointed
by the Chair, 10 whom the petition under consider
alton shall be referred Ii will then be for the Military
Committee to take It's swn course with regard to The
other matter before them now submit that notion
Mr.. DAVIS. Mr.. President, | presented the memorial
which has been much commented upon, and had it
referred TO the Committee Military Affairs because
they had the subject before them for examination last
year-not because supposed they had any particularly
favorable Tor the object prayed for My belief
that they would deal with impartialy desire noth
ing else am satisfied with any disposition OF the sub
ject which shall fair aud impartial hearing and
have dsrust OF any of the committees of this body,
sir They have my confidence, and should very cheer
July acquieace In submitting any measure TO their con-
sideraton. make these remarks simply to show that
for the petitioners whose petition presented all that
desire is fair and impartial hearing have no doubt
but we should get that from the Committee Military
Affairs. thought that the appropriate committee,
and therefore sent it to them but if the judgment of the
Senate is otherwise, shall acquiesce in it with great
pleasure.
MIR. CHASE suppose that the proper course of pro-
ceedng under The rule to first pass the order to raise
the committee Then the appointment OF the committee
under the rule properly devolves upon the Senate, and is
to be made by ballot, unless by unanimous coAsen the
Chair is ordered to appoint il.
The PRESIDENT This is compound proposition !;
the honorable demand division if he desires
Mr.. CHASE. merely desire to have the thing done
precisely IN accordance with the rule. | have OBJ
lection 10 the appointment of the committee by the Chair
merely for the purpose OF asking have the SEN
ate proceed N the proper order OF business
Mr.. HALE. Does not the rule require that the ques
ton shall be first put upon referring any subject
standing committee!
The PRESIDENT That is the rule but the motion
to refer this petition to the Committee Military AT
fairs has been Withdrawn, and the question now is upon
the motion to refer il to select committee to be appointed
by the Chair.
Mr. HALE Then, | renew the motion, and do il for
this reason that am apprehensive if select committee
be appointed shall have report this session These
CLAIMS nave been mere LOT some SIX or eKn. years
gress do not know which This session is more than
onethird gone Twas in favor yesterday Of special
committee, but am satisfied after consultation and
some conversation subsequently with gentlemen,
that il select committee is raised now the matter will
be postponed still further That my for
renewing the motion 10 refer this petition TO the Commit
Mr. BADGER. | think the honorable senator from
New Hampshire Mr.. HALEl is mistaken in supposing
as the other committee will do think the select
m,lee will make report the soonest.
Mr. SHIELDS. Every member upon the Committee
on Military Affairs indsposed TO act upon this question
now, and hope the honorable senator from New Hamp
shire M HALEl will not press his motion to force
ms u.s. suo 1HSr upon y, US r.,oo ,. !, o.. ;.,
pressed by the senator from Illinois, Mr. SHELDs.1
am member OF the Committee on Military Affairs.
did not participate in the debate on yesterday; but
should regret exceedingly, under the circumstances that
surround u.s. TO have this committee compelled TO take
charge OF this question again. No matter what report
might make, it would not and could not be sa,isac-
tory all the claimants And il to consent
take charge of this subject would under the crcum
stances, expose ourselves TO imputalons which II seems
TO me no honorable gentleman ought TO be willing Ia
bear II is upon that ground that am opposed TO hav
ing this matter referred to tie Military Committee.
hope IT will be referred TO other committee OF this
body, or to special committee, and we be relieved from
lis investigation.
Mr. BADGER. concur entirely in the suggestions
of the honorable senators who have last spoken,
Messrs, SHIELDS and JONES, OF Tennessee. see no
proprey in forcing tins subject upon the Military Con-
mtee every member OF that committee being opposed 10
IT. see nothing connected with the matter 10 render
il imperative upon to send il to that committee, And
il seems TO me that the honorable senator from New
Hampshire [Mr HALEl is under mistake in supposing
that II will facilitate tue getting the report to have this
matter referred TO the Military Committee think if a
select committee is raised, we will get report sooner
and have probably satisfactory than would
get from the Committee on Military Affairs.
Mr.. HALE. want to inquire Of the honorable SEN
ator from Arkansas, Mr. BoRIASD,1 as he is member
Of that committee, this committee has already pro-
crossed somewhat in the consideration of the memorial
submitted by the senator from Massachusetts, MI
DAVIS II
Mr. BORLAND The Committee on Military Affairs
have bad but two meetings this subject has been
referred to them Bot al the meeting OF last week the
brought before the committee this morning, and in
sequence OF the debate of yesterday the unanimous de-
csion of the committee was, that we shond object TO
any further reference OF this matter TO the committee and
ask to have il referred 10 select committee
Mr. HALE then withdraw my motion to refer this
subject 10 the Committee on Military Affairs.
The question being then taken upon the motion 10 re-
fer the subject 10 select committee, agreed TO,
and the committee ordered 10 be appointed
The question then REQUIRED upon ordering the commit
tee to be appointed by the Chair.
Mr.. HALE. Does that require unanimous consentl
The PRESIDENT. The Chair is OF opinion that the
majority decides the question.
Mr.. HALE. | wish TO say that il il does require
unanimous consent you cannot have il If il does not
then you can appoint the committee.
The question being then taken upon ordering the com
mittee to be appointed by the Chair it agreed to-
Mr.. BORLAND. In connexon with this subject,
beg leave TO state that am instructed by the Committee
on Military Affairs, 10 which referred the memorials
from the physicians and surgeons of Massachusetts, in
memorials and ask 10 be discharged from the further
cons of In hey lpav Ia