New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-05-07

them were merchants Mr. Austen toA me that ha had
conferred with the President and he told me that the Pred
dent said that he preferred would address oonmunca-
tor 10 them on the subject Mr. Fonertonrhis viii new
er end the witness allowed 20 tell this long story Wit
pesIhsve seen sights here and ought - be allowed !,
expAin want 10 tell the whole Mr., Capp-You should
the questions put 20 you by the Comsee and the
Counsel on either side We here TO investigate the
matter You are not trial NitnesS-Bnt the counsel
will not ask me questions subjects that en-.
plain would like 20 look al the Bill OF partcalss which
Mr.. Fulertcn put in evidence. bhi shown Tbs hrse
charge IS for 81 500 for services AZ night Mr. p
| object 10 this | suppose do not come here TO
try the equity of that bill At all FOR no matter
whether conceived in sin or brough' iorn IN qay
dOeS not make matter for investigation mere lie has made
s claim the Art nionhe says So and nat suihcent
That claim Is now before Court Of Law, and Il Is there
must be decided Mr. Shannon-The Counsel should have
hsdths bill in evidence wh,R objected TO T. and no they
must abide the consequences OF their own act IhNt
Mantle bill having been made evidence by toe defend
ants do conceive that becomes Legitimate object tor
explanation and think he should be allowed 10 proceed
Nj Fuleron-Nery well Nimess-Ihe hrst item m ths
bill for 81 500 for extra services az night for wathmsn
for three years AZ $500 per annum say performer
those services sud they worth this smOaut the next
is ESQ for services Sundays they valuable and
necessary the Institution sud worth the amount
charged IN my Judgment the third change - for $3.50 Tor
keeping order in the GALLERY during that period 4 eAhio
tons the Institution was much annoyed by persons
OF loose character coming there, and vas neces-
sary 20 get rid OF them for the purpose OF keeping
up the credit OF the Institution got dePntaton irom me
Sheriff through ct the members OF the COMMITTEE and
that document have IN my possession Al TINS mowen Si
charge tor coo for extra house rent nthe year ss
occupied house in the Seventeenth Ward, for whch
paid sl35 rent and during that year the superintendent
was taken sick and had % perform his duties As
well IS ms own and IN consequence had u rentn
81 the Institution t late AZ ugA d that time Ien Nh'-
more was President OF the Institution. and he desired mo
~ procure house IN the immediate vicinity OF thu Art
Union with the that any extra rent waoh
would have 20 pay, would be made good t. me- oy u ~.
stution accordingly removed % the immediate N'inty
a. directed and the had % pay was a. mnca As
charge here least and $3.50 more than ed prev,
iousy been paying The deficiency IN the cash
he institution in ls49 $50 IS and this made good
though not morally legal bound TO d.. next year
there deficiency OF slio which Also made good and
the last Is charge for reforming me Guuts OF te N'es-
nondtp Secretary duriug his Illness Snt absence
from fthe institution for which charge ssJJ nave
charged at the rate ct compensation ~ the Cstre
spending Secretary paid for duties shcn performed
and which he did not Mr. TsylorDd the idea that there
great deal OF money IN the funds Of tn Art Union
when 1t about 70 be closed by the Court ct Appeals
influence you in making out your bill or did suggest TO
YOU that A. tor making the charges That YOU
might as well have slice Of the money another Mr..
tuerton-l object 10 that question do not tbink Il
competent be put by counsel or by member ot the
Committee. Chairman thought that this was exactly
the thing you wanted to come 49, aud am surprised an OBJ
lection should come r. m you Mr. F.-les, Se do want
l. but not from the witness However viii withdraw my
objection Question read Mr.. f-Mght ask does
sppear the minutes by whom this question u askedf
Chairman ertainy by me, but ask u after consulting
with my associite Mr. Fullerton suppose viii be- al
lowed 10 put the question 20 the witnesses on the
part ,the defence Mr. Shannon-Nhen the time comes We
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have more than suhcenteV ana unnN you arc
LAYING the groundwork for more Mr. Chpp-Lcthm answer.
Witness. lnever occurred TO me IN the world ths tIe
was made because he money was due me, aud am
satisfied that il the Union had been successful would nave
been paid without any legal controversy have been
asked by Mr. Fullerton IL was unrendly with Mr. Austen,
and gave several reasons why uufrendly with him,
and want 10 explain his conduct IS Treasurer want 10
explain that Mr. Austen and Mr. COzxens, aud other mem
bers othe Committee and officers had purchased imported
pictures works OF arr and foreign productions, conryto
the BY laws and const utiun of the Institution aud as
matter speculation. was asked why suspected the in
gry of Mr. Austen, and since then looked into matters
and lind this as additional reason why did entertain
th. ft ling toward him These works of art purchased
from Nams ana stephens Broadway and aferward sent
Boston to be disposed oi and the Institution met with
loss by the operation; | also know that Mr.. Austen
has sold his own purchases as works OF art-hs own
property the Ant Onion at price FAR above their value
in regard 10 this item O sjjj Jj, want q explain
with the intent to show that | did not say that Mr.
Jarvis and Mr. Benedict, when Mr. Austen told mo
that General Wen0re gave check on the bank tor
SIP Oh for the purpose ct harmonizug the affairs OF the
sution. Mr. Austen aud SIR tozzens rod me that this
check given 10 make COED ths deficit which they
charged Col Warner with receiving improperly. There
p-ison present when they told me wish 10 state
further TO the question which Mr. Fullerton asked dbl
say Mr. Jarvis or Benedict was present but sand NO such
hing do not wish To weary The patience OF the Com
mittee but want 10 get in much caa 10 justify my
self before the Committee. Mr.. Chpp-fou are not
on trial here Witness-Mr Fullerton pat 50. With
regard the letter addressed to A. NJ Cozzens dated Aug
y, l-j2 wish 10 tate that the institution Indebted
to for advances made by and that being shortly al
ter quarter ddfi When the LANDLORDS ther
Objected 10 by Chairman As too long Witness / con
ceive that this testimony pertinent il will explain why
| wrote the letter Gen. WhtmOre cal cd on Mr.. Austen
for me- and he told advised him pay ~ th.
Dey had advanced for the institution, and the GoncrI
told that Mr.. Austen rlt hurt for, no said, that I
bad sandered the members Of the Institutions the General
said that WAS mistaken in George he called Mr.. Aus
for George would not do anything wrong and that he
would 90 round aud hn again the strength Of rep
TeseniaOns from the General WAS inclined 30 think bet
ter Of Mr. Austen, and Mr. Austen would give
the money unless signed the letter, signed IT, bat ex-
amned memOr aida since then which brought me- back to
my original opinion, that Dir Austen not square
man, and think yet and also want b. state. that
instead Of pushing forward this has been said
WAS mpOTtuned by the petitioners To- proceed with il L
said that the members DESTROYS to get the
of influential men Ia the community members Of tho
Mama ng Committee without reference 90 thsir skll
works of art. Mr.. Chpp-iou stated so yesterday;
don want Il again Examined by Mr. ShaDnOn-You
stated n your direct examination that member Of ths
Committee Of Management who received picture that
the catalogue Of obuton had replaced it by
Of his own private pictures Who that member
Witness hesiiafed and seemed unwilling % answer Mr.
fulefton-lf the witness declines Ia answer this.
question from not knowing anything OF this
matter i IL well and good but ne does the ground u
suy drEcscy or pretended dshcacy protest against Il.
We do not want anything of tie kind Ia preenes tho
saving Of The reputation Of any Nitness-Weu 1 DO
art 10 tell al know and say do want repu.
iation Of some-I will say Of many. Mr F-Weli then,
viii only say 10 reply 70 that that charity begins home
hsirmainI thought settled this yesterday bat IL
AfoAt again. Wtne-s-COl Andrew Warner.
QN hen you clerk ia the Institution had you charge
n the receipts from the members WifBess-I had lom 1T
August tO the close O $50 until the middle " 1850
What the amount Of receipts during the year 1919
A. IN the year 1899 receipts $4,000 y il the ysr
ls4O s3g37 a. IN the Isfl e. Is in III. wear
~ g. ~ 20 in the year ls3 e. % in lsfA IO0sj gDg
IN l-45 el6s5i in 1896 S-21e3 Ia 1874 sf-433 On in
~, t-S 5f p ~ lsf9 $50 300 1850 eel SO; in tho
yer s5 tbs reee s were the neghborhoyd Of se0OoD,
bat The books do not give the receipt, IN that year. y
lat became If those receipts A. They received