The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-09

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| Mr. DOUGLAS. The senator from South Ca,olina
says, Certainly Il doesn He not SO certain perh.,.
that does. The Indian lands lie along the Missouri Dor
der and extend back regular distances the interior
As therefore these adan grounds excepted out of The
Territory, and constitute part of IT, they constitute and
forever constitute the boundary the Terri
tory, unless the Indians hereafter shall voluntarily enter
INTO treaties by which that boundary will be changed Then
II is that this territory does run round them
Butift did still it does embrace them. Suppose you
should create Territory in that expanse of country
and mark out by metes and bounds hundred miles
square, and after had created that suppose you should
create another Territory which had strip running
the first still you would embrace the You go round
u on different sides, but do not iclude it, You do
tend your laws over it,
They remain distinct separate Territories as much
as they lay hundreds of miles apart from each other Is
TO be said that by Indian treaties we are NOT allowed
70 run States or Territories around these Indian
uonsf II you cannot State around the ground
you run four Or are they say you shall not make
oa'e east OF them west Of hem north of Them
south OF them but that the territory every direction is
forever to be kept open barren dedicated 10 barbar
ism Is that to be the construction placed upon the
lnua treatesf The meaning of these treaties, under
stand them, Is, that the Ind shall be embraced in
state 70 as 10 come under lis jurisdiction and be subject
ITS authority If that be the meaning the treaties and
,he whoe object OF their guarantees, of them
lated by this provision. ~
Sir, when you IT, there is not even re-
spectacle pretext for the charge that the bill is ia violation
OF any treaty shpulaons But, sir the senator from
Texas Mr. HousroNl has discovered the moment pro-
posed 10 bring up the BILL that there other great
NIFTY in ha Texas to be invaded, her rights to be
destroyed, her interests be sacrificed How? 1t is
SAID that ny this act you will drive the Indians all down
upon Texas Does the bill do any way The Indians
w III they be any more likely to go down than they
were before Why sir the bill territorial govern
ment between the Indians and Texas and you
OF settlement beyond which the Indians could not CO. Il
would be barrier against their going Texas But the
senator from Texas they gone
Well SIR, II they have been there before shows that this
bill will not be the cause of their going there again But il
pass this BILL and settle the country between the Indian
grants and Texas barrier will be created the Indians will
will ha al Crcrrnt har
roads. .sS
IL can see another effect which perhaps might grow uof
this Certainly friend of this bill desires drive the In
dams down upon Texas For should be
against the Indians being driven down there would be
against their going to the borders of Missouri Inos
held that this government must protect her Indians.
But sir another question may arise whether or not tho
territory be kept Indian territory for the purpose Of
driving the Texas Indians there and colon.iug them
on the western borders of Missouri and Iowa think
had better SO arrange as to allow each to take Of its
own Indians. HF 8tE.atE
II has been said that these Indians be removed
where, and have been asked where they ogo Why,
SIR In the Indian appropriation BILL which has been passed.
an appropriation made for negotiating treaties for the
removal OF these Indians Why did ask that
question when that bill under consideration Il 10
for the War Department and the Indian bureau under the
direction of the President Of the United States say where
they when they removed am under the impression
that there three points where and Indian territory
could be laid out without interfering with any of the great
routes to the Pacific.
will occupy the time of the Senate further in this
discussion have felt it due to the subject, due myself
to the OCCASION that should much
position of the views and in justification the of the
Committee the Territories for having reported this bill
The bill underwena thorough investigation and discus
sion in the House of Representatives, and passed
there by overwhelming majority and undertake say
that when the subject is examined it will be found that the
bill is in exact accordance with the scupuous obse
vance OF faith towards the Indians, that rights
TO be invaded, and is to be injured by it, If these
Indians prefer it. they remain forever whore they are
without being embraced within that territory they
main there Indian tribe subject its jurisdiction
or they consent to become citizens Of the country,
der such be entered into by treaties with Them
II will be left the choice of the Indians determine what
course they will elect es.l.s Fl. ,.ats..
But sir the senators have said that might as well urge
that territorial government should be formed west Of Ar
kansas Sir, 1t may be necessary to do it. am by
means certain that it necessary. am by
certain that shall be found acting in concert with the
known supposed wishes of the Arkansas senator's
abshing territory west of them on proper terms Ger
any those acquainted with the subject and possess
Ing the greatest interest in it, desire such Territory shall
be found of those ready to cooperate with Them But
see that there is time for proacng this discussion
have merely said much necessary vndcae the
action of the committee and should be delighted if
the Senate by common consent, would unite and pass the
BILL for If II be taken up, am il will be passed. My
fears are that IT will not be taken up
Mr.. ADAMS. know that my friend from Illinois ia
good compromise man, and wish to propose him
compromise this subject, and that is that by
be postponed until the Friday after the first Nom
lay OF December next when shall have ample and
opportunity to discuss and investigate and il think
Il right can tken pass the bill.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. i must remind my friend from Mis-
sissipp that eight years when he and membes
Of the House of Representatives was then pressing the
Nebraska bill and / have since been pressing il. |
have tried get through for eight long years would
take II much kind my friend should propose
by common consent take up and pass the bill. The
members Of the body very good humor all having
got what they have wanted except the territories. hope
shall do something for them.
Mr.. BoRLAND. supposc il may not be considered ex-
ncy in order TO discuss the of the bill the question
Of taking up but in this great latitude Of debate
been allowed upon both sides and the Of the bill
been discussed have something say Why the bill should
not be taken up. am very sorry occupy the time of
the Senate and should be very glad il could dis
pose of the subject whou further debate IL the Sena,c
prepared lay it upon the table, shall very willingly
spence with any rcmarks which might otherwise feel
called upon make and therefore, with view OF testing
the Of the Senate move that the motion to take up
the bill be laid on the table.
Mr.. WELLER called for tho yeas and nays upon the
motion, and they were ordered
The question being then taken by yeas and nays upon
The motion to lay the motion to take up the table, il
was agreed to-yess %, nays l7-es follows.
YEAS-Mcssrs. Adams Bayard, Bell Borland Brod
head Butler, Davis, Dawson, Desaussure Downs Fish,
fitzpatrick, Houston Hunter, Mallory Morton Phelps
tuk Sebastian, Smith, Soule Spruanee, and Underwood
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NAYs-Messrs. Atchison Bright Cooper Dodge OF
WISCONSIN, Dodge of Iowa, Douglas Feloh Foot Geycr,
amin Jones OF Town, Norris, Shields, Toucey Wade,
Walker and Weler-l7.
sessAcEs
During the remarks Of Mr.. DoueLss, message re-
ceived from the House Of Representatives, by Me y. b.
Hayes, its chief clerk, announcing that the House had
pc ssed the following Senate bills without amendment
tied time tho provisions of act relative suspended en-
Of public lands.