Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1853-01-18
DEBATE IN Tl:s Il. :. SENATE.
BRITISH COLONY IN CENTRAL AMERICA
WEpxEspAY, JAS. u. ls5G.


some lrngh the subject His remarks however, are
not ready Tor publication TIE debate continued as
follows
Mr. pEARCE do ncl propose go a; large into This
debate. entered into 1t originally for tive purpose ot do.
tending late Secretary OF State tMr Caytn) from III:
charge which had been made agans him, that by
pondencc with tho British Minister subsequent 10 the ra
hcaon OF the treaty, he had done away with what some
gentlemen in this body understood hc the true pupnr:
and Intent OF the treaty. and nothing whcn has been snd
today has shaken conviction that the Secretary has
been successfully defended. England by that treaty."
understand IL rcnouneed no right which she had in British
Honduras and neither that treaty nor MI Caycns letter
undertook fix the character of The rights which Great
Britain may have in that region of the world
Blu, there other gentlemen in this body who think
that The intent of that treaty 10 sweep British ocCnpa
lion from the entire Central America including British Hon.
duras. So did | think. | think tile intention was 10
limit The encroacncnts OF Great Britain which wc Knew
guing check The cxten-ion of her possessions
in that quarter bot 10 leave the possessions which she was
actually then enjoying precisely ushry were without nm
parchment and wlh"u, sanction. Tha! l. the view wis
many of us here unders land il be taken OF IT, Bot h0a
happens it, Mr. Pesidcnt construction Of the treaty
which given by gentlemen the other sid" be co::cct
| and The intention 10 sweep the British away from all
their possessions Ia tha. quarter even iTo British iondu
ras-lha from The date Of the ratification OF that treaty
down The present time, which Is Two years and hall, the
British have continued hei! occupancy precisely they hnd
the date OF the treaty. and from not ono OF those gen.
,cien-who declare, sincerely, doubt, that
lcy understood The object ana ,ct The treaty be
put end that British ccupanCyno word Of rcnJn
has hecn heard against such continued occupancy
in violation, they say, {" Inc true intent aud purpor OF
vindiclon OF the late Secretary ol State
But sir do not propose 10 90 ln'' this disclssiun an
afraid huve talked Ia" much ahnn. il aeldy AID arno
gza for having said Ihcs" few words The na!a purpose of
my rising make 10 the Senate statement, which !
have been requested 10 make, on behalf Of Col King.
have received this morning by The hand ot honorable
mrmbc, Of The other House irCn the Stale cf Alabama r
GsAoo the following communication:
'CuI King desires Mr. pcarcc sav III the Senae, that
has been his desire intention IN any thing which
has been represented saying rcicr"nce TO III" Clayton
ad Buwer trraty east the slightest mpthi!2r M No
j. NJ Clayton in 10 that matter. IN CONTRARY,
he de;ircs do N Clayton he lr,tcc IL sly thu! &c IL
convinced il hirg conac" win that treaty. he
Mr. Clayton acuaIed by patriotic nahiey 70 protect
the rights md OF has country Cot King ccls
ii,d that thing said By hm Encci m@ArlIshenS!'"
o! ihc i'c!' e. me Case e"' '' "r' ''S '' '"S'' ''
anus. reli ciin.. IN Mr. Clayton"
do npi .;r authorized 10 add word at c"ris1' tc th
statement except Gni it perfectly consistent "i'h
hat for strict inteerii, and fcrnpuious rn"r
which HI. csr- been rnJ,yrA t'y Mr. MIG.
Mr. S0ULE. Wish 70 ascertain whcthrf the hoGHGa"
Senator H. "a Ma,yIant n.aG- apply what Nj kEg
hie covcrrri"n in rcc;, Vi Clayton merely q"
transni sirly !" those conversations o which
many nGd oGcasjr 10 ~ a. ~ connecit! WIN
the ratification 9. Tie sraiv.
Mr. PEiEIE | have arlao:,ty 10 make unY nppl!
cation o: at ali present III" s'asrnc' az
he cqus- ii Col Kim. and r''e!ate 10 "a; in
what remarks II api.sts.
Mr. 5uGi.i:. / meant o;!s ,rsi whe.s ~! i.uno ihc
Senator h.t any means OF asccr'.inlug.
Mr. PEAtoE lhava uoj the .n.sns of k3o"i9G anr
hiac, CXc-. lie communication which ha"o r.lt T. !
Senate ive had Opportunity oi Ecc!nn VI kn@ GI
his -; MS paper liiSJ. " ~: 'i'a 't
ing by IL: I I BRAGo of tho i!""," ." !t"oC"~e"'s-
lives win a'eGu,s BY Mr. kiH thn wo" read X ~ r
| Senate ~ p"ral
Mr. SOuLE. Does The honorable Senator understand il
| 10 apply original remarks
hir PEACE. ! - not kna" tiii ! uLt.;saG& ~. 10
norabls Sen,,ur do got Eaos hat c,n pur
ton Mr. Kings statement, or sty what ! agpr:t
| though thak II is quite pcrspcuoGG.
Mr. SOULE. merely want 10 asccit;n Of tie S"'h'o'
himself, VIII he he understood ls cSpan1t''n given Jy
Mr. King, pPyng 10 rt!er conversations .Ea" ,o-e
whi>h naye:nkca place lately!
Mr. PEatCE. lsuppuse i, applies T. what "hs s:i II
the Sen7IssnIie tGys sncc bur have au1"iy .Xc'E
| 10 make IL -iactntI, as have READ Il.
Mt SOILE. Well, shall cover tie wh gIenHt my
self l, VII seen that the honorable iabos
Ter mis- prcllcn.iJn and t,t he would be i'r
last te Wiling Ia do he will feel =omc g"i'nd"
il shall ale to ~; hil ri2ht. hnr" no; &Sc'"''i in
any wa the rghi OF England which have chn-ac:o'z"n
as precarous, cutting i0.wCoi in ii rrnna. Hha'a"Hf
that rig may he, We hare never DIS ''ainri ha u va
considered by oil Is being unnuchci by he 'T'at! bn!
what w. had discl1lmed was that we could n Understand
the leaving un,ou"e ihc question Of Sovereignty
hOst islands, and an going tn show font The very in
| ,nagr q Mr.. Clayton, that were right
Mr. fEARCE Ii the Senator will allow me, II under
stood im Alright d" not kn"w that ;c'c Is any difference
| brtweer him and myself in that p1rticulr The Senate
vii! rec iIec that when made my remarks on iis subject
the o'lr day, expressly stated that Gteai Htton had b
aincd :2h o possession IN those regions under the
treaty i 1863 that sie had claimed to fasc some c -"
furr a: pcihuns made irscgnnr settlements bE ~"
list valid Treaty iH! OF 1853, which dshn'd nc puE
pose her occupa:ion SiaeG l:ir, that by III" treaty
Of IL; the boundaries within which England might proceed
else her privileges defined, anL further rr!s
ege given, hc the convention g; list eNc';ed ic
| buuncs o the Rti'i=h occupancy. d" moi knew mat
Dnc the q! The ,ckno" edgcmcnt o those exist
ing lratles by ha OF 1914 That undoubtedly as stated
By the honorable Senator from Louisiana In nothing ha;
aa': said al any time have undertaken TO 'ndc?tc me
rghu dominion OF Great Britain TO huse counties.
have expressly reaincd from that have spoken OF l'e
under which she obtained possession and at
acroacments by which she has rndeavored in ri'a-
lion The treaties which conferred her restricted rights
10 obtain absolute dJmiaDn do not ste, therefore, ill
in the respect there s any difference between the Senator
and myself unless il be rh- a suppose the Clayton and
use leave The nights Of Great Britain wiey"r
they in British Honduras, wiinon. impeachment n'
without sanction.
Mr. SOULE. Whence, then | would ask, can arise The
iacrepa ncy between and the honorable Senator We
from the outset unlestdtGgY Gnlttei That ~ 90 lar n
certain prccarous rights nigh! be claimed nn' held by
Great Britain having been Transferred to htr "y me i5cH
" oi 1883 ana afterwards b! that o lioO thty remained
untouched Bu, other prcensions than those ainssltf l. iI
"r suerancc allowed by those treaties were under
saod hc entertained By England aud those were the pre-
tensions which this treaty mean 10 do away WIN ~
eit 10 kasland none OF those rights through "hch sn@
.h any political jurisdiction over The country u
covered and this all Of Central Americas ana on ts
point the honorable Senator will allow me I" satisfy him
ha understanding o the treaty was IN siIic ucco!hnc'
"lh that OF hlr CuyIvn himself, as exhibited IN me IN
sucons which he gave that able, ctl'!cn' an al"f
agent Mr. Squcr, when he put him IN charge ui our A't
rests connected with the republic Of Nicaragua IT wi
be renenber, that those instructions oraf date ihe IN q
May, iS50 aai therefore anterior to ne eNchangc '
the raicatons between the Two ncgoIlaoTs Here Is III
Ianguag. which Mr. Clayton IN reference to h!s sH
Jcct:
I'VE nuve ncyor acknowledged and can never acknow
ledge lhc existence Of clam Of sovereignty IN the Mns
quito king any Indian in Anrrca. To 20 90 "@uh :"
deny The title Of United States 10 oar own Territory
Having always regarded niian title as mere ilGi o.
occupancy agree that such title shn"id ~
treated Otherwise than .hn; C. be Hxi!nghisrd ~ w
will Of the discuvcrcr lii, Upon the iaiit:to"
OF The ;r-liy G:cat Britain; mi longer have any ir'S
deny his principle wch she E"s recognised 70 'sF5
other in wi;h Hal rntcct"ft" ";!l 81 re-
ducci shadow stat HOHnis urbrd ior s';c can hcr
occupy :uny, cU!Onzc. exercise e"'inoH pf con-
trol in aIy part ui the Mosquito coast or Ccna! 3m"iici
To attempt do either ii those t!in4s, after c cS&'n%H
cf raE a;!vns, would inevitably Pf1lacc '''' t
United States "
AIR PEAGCE jn NOS perceive any tisHr"Fnry he'%es"
the Senator ard myself; certainty no. as TeE:;' i m'
quito cues;, ..'"! ave r-igAcJ from agnoAta or -
tho II lie States .: Genial A:nsrici-:rrc ~ "i az
there i. difference i,,+ Sr"irf i.'i H".ei
and lie Senator M!cigan WHICH NJ. ''i ali&.a' ="
rCcGUC"
Mr BOWS S,t1, d@e-'H,.rs' avc -. '"":s'z q;
inor:;. Ia fct !lf:c ar h l:tJ h:!i ~ ''. -t
,.c e,5,a;2 i' strf aa.r,a. ire e."
sii.urs Gas1 By ,"r reo"fphy SenaaT :faa il"
myself and others! .r rccnii lo hH tarls.9 u ii@ 10 -
While IS fresh III r:in"s II "! lr wa r.
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