The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-02-16


to the coin herein authorize 4 40 far az the same nav bt
applicable but the devices and shape Of the three dollar
pieces sha be fixed by the Secretary of the Treasury
Eighth That this act shall bs il; osre from and aste,
tine first day Of June next
TIE GARDINER CASA ;fc
On motion of Mr.. PRESTON KING GIeeso1 of N " tfu
House took up and passed the Sen.tsb to pre-, ent II
certain eases failure delay ostce In the
Of the District OF Columbia The intSion OF che bill
STATED TO apply to the Gardiner case which Il shortly to
commence and will not probably be conclude Before the
CLOSE OF the december term.
/ FRAUDS on THE TREASURY
me House eoncurred in some of the Senate snied-
snents TO the bill to prevent frauds tIe Ue eta
| Treasury.
| POSTAL APPROPRIATIONS
Tue House went into Committee of Whos the state
OF the Union Mr.. ORR in the chair and oosup the Post
Gcs Appropriation bin, which read, eud without
The Committee next took up the
- CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROPRIATION BLya
MT vEaABIE (deIn) of n C., said there ia IsccM dis,
satisfaction and contempt in the public mind as Is the
proceedings OF this House For the last two ycss
lyse the elements which have brought genterae to
the the second session of this Congress- without
me transaction OF the business with which they
trusted Ie discomfort is in proportion to the obscurity
OF the causes which produco delay in the public business
An experience Of six years had taught him that the v6e
cyl exists in the rules There hundred and
ffty three Of them besides seventy five joint rules be-
tween the tive houses and, with all this is the paris
mcntary law in full authority? There are autho'
Tiaed precedants conflicting, contradictory aud ut
fery unntslsise to the most astute observation
world in which precedent has no aathority-has
no influence. The result is we cannot look back with
profit 10 legislative history bare majority often
ride down the minority whom the rules are designed to
protect One of the most prominent grievances is the
one hoar rule gentleman cannot obtain the floor but
people and was inter1egaed to the cause delay of
the public business at such enormous expense
10 the country, he Ind only to tell them it owing
70 the thmbe rig lessraemain and chicanery of the
House bill is almost ready to pass, but all of
an end of it. 1t reminded him Of the little joker
Nov NOV a. You see it and now you don't" Gnugh-
points OF order not wFth button. Many blame
the Speaker for deciding wrong but for him to decide
rgnt ne must be as wiscn Solomon. and old Mehu-
seian Appeals are taken, decisions reversed and
thus confusion caused Hshad read all the rules through
ana was 50 filed with disgust that he did not believe
school boy could be by them with school
master presiding. One of te first rules is that com
mtees shall be called for reports, but committee has
been called through since last session. except the Com
mittee on Public Lands They would introduce BILL and
then the previous question its passage Ii the
time AT the last Congress- railroad and land bills occu
pied very much Of the time tothe neglect other
ness and to the detriment of the soldier the sailor the
widow and other private claimants The children Of his
district he said would be amused they told that
gentlemen here have tied their hands and feet that
they have to cut the strings they are able to do
anything and have to turn somersaults like harequin
to out ao4uia persona from the rules daughter
. gentleman commences Addressing the House when
he Is interrupted by the asking OF question: and he
Undergraduates Members address the House variety
OF subjects not pertinent to the under consder
tion and often when gentleman has favorite scheme
the gag is applied Two thirds Of the most important
been passed under the operation of the pre-
vous question and members are thus called upon to
vote upon bills they have read. After giving
other instances Of reprehensblc proceedings he said the
senate transacted four times much business the
House. If caprice the only rule Of action wished
it to be understood by the country The rules he
peaed are in the OF doing business Ina as
the House thing without Of the
rules would be better to abrogae all except half dozen
o. 'nfm ana go back to the h law The
been called for fourteen months. Unless reform shall
be made the people will to tho conclusion that re-
publican government is failure 1t u.s. then to
secure the confidence of the country-if not they will
isei 1t ito to be glorious change to have master Moth
duty ' fs'p' '0' p''Ap' 0'0na'seo o.
Mr. STEPHENS (whig) of Ca, said tie evils to which
the gentleman had alluded be attributed to
the causes he had assigned The gentleman had said
great deal against the absurd rules of the House Now
he asked the gentleman to point out single rule which
contains absurdity large majority Of the rules
have been in existence since 1889. Did not men do
business under them at that tina2 and have not
Representation legislated under them from 1910
until until, 1872 But very few Of the rules have been
none interfering with the business of the House
The evil does not exist in the rules and when the gentle
man from North Carolina sends his speech up to his con
stuents, let this message go with IT to them namely
'sthe fault is in the men who constitute the House.
Send legislators M ana hsse not
good and WISE Conform TO them IND you will clear your
tables, now groaning under their weight. Put in the
chair man who understands the rues-let men who
sent to Congress understand the public busnesand
will hear complaint about them. The gentleman spoke
tees of conference else lose the appropriation bills.
But why is majority thus called to voter Because
If the House should do as he fMr Stephens wished
they would have rule for taking the vote each item
separately He thought that the heads OF committees
had not been reiss the public business would
been delayed.
Mr. MctAsAHAs (dem.) of Pa interrupted Mr.. S. by
asking how chairman make report, unless under
the rules of the Houses The Committee the Judiciary
has not been called
Mr. STEPHENS replied-f chairfnen of committees had
the confidence OF the House, tAey would be enabled to
make their reports.
Mr. McLANAAN saio it to be regretted the chair
cannot command such influence and asked the gen
teman to point out those who cannot.
Mr. SIrTHENs replied that he might begin at a point
the gentleman would not like The committees have not
been called for fifteen months tho is tho House
has not sustained the Chair in first calling committees
for hour then proceeding to business the Speakers
table for one hour, and next with the business of the
day, It that were done the Speakers table would be
members are all anxious to get their especial business
acted upon. Like crowd getting out Of church on
block up the business. Let the business be taken up
order without the squeezing and jamming That's the
members under direction Of the Speaker confored to
the rules In conclusion he said he did not intend to
vote ondy 1r reports % 81 committees % of icon % me- CO.
stimulated by the cry If you don't do it. the bill will be
LOST He would not do it under the threat that there
have be extra session of Congress in the event
Of tn failure of the BILL
Mr.. STUART, (dem) Of Mich, said he was not
adj mist ' e Houe % Sas sy disposed to D do
it. 1t n principle, perhaps engrafted upon
nature, when evil exists in the land to charge it
to some other source than ourselves If the House, ct
any time today any day, had undertaken to execute
the rules in letter and in spirit such evils gentle
men condemn would exist 1t is competent for the
House any every day, to go to the Speakers table
and act upon the business there long the majority
please. Early last session the Homestead bill was made
Especial order and for four months gentlemen spoke in
Committee Of the Whole the state Of the Union, on
that measure 1t was unjust to charge the Committee
Public lands with being obstacle to the business
during the last session and He referred<p the fact
that the opponents OF the railroad bills resorcd to every
parliamentary mode to prevent vote upon them. How
long would 1t have taken to follow the suggested
by that committee namely, acting under the previous
question: and thus testing whether the measure was to
! pass notY
Mr. JONES, (dem) Of Tenn, asked the gentleman whe
her opportunity afforded to the oppononts Of the
bill to get the floor before the previous question was