The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-12-12

know Of
Q. Do you know from your own observation or by the
Information of Aernam ga win
more OTHER drafts of the Hamilton Exchange Ba ok than
those spoken o. executed in the same
those already testified 10, and at different time A.
Yes, sir
O How many other such drafts you know Of have
been informed BY either Of the defer dautss A don't
know any pa, tcular number; never informed how
many.
manner fill up By sawn, ao pnrportipg TO be by the
Hamilton Exchange Bank the Troy City Bank A.
have been told there was Van Aernam told So Sawin
| did net.
@ When did Van Aernam say it filled up and
where. A. In Mr. sawn's store. on that day, thtnk.
| Q When did he tell this A. Some time in the
| latter part Of October never before.
What die he tell you he had done with it, A. That
| he used il In Bra ntford Csoada some where.
| DO you not know that Van Aernam left Buffalo for
Brantfod Canada the day after the execution the
GRATIS don't know hs left; he told me that he
intended 10 leave think he told eiti that day
evening at TIE room, dent know hich
DID yon not know at the time the papers wsrs pre-
rarec that Van AerDam proposed going into Canada with
| hem cid Mt know that fact; supposed he vas;
| did not know IA, be did go.
three Gays and stated that had been into Canada A.
| Ye, All, he said he had bs.n to Canada
Did be not Yell you that he nad passed away Of
| iEese drsfsf A. He told me he had.
Do he not tell you that It vas the 80 600 draft he
bin OF So on the Bank Of cal was ., hi bited to the
witness and asied II Van Aerram did not have auaut
~ Of such money his return from Canada Witness
Did he LAY into your hands large amount Of this
money, exceeding thousand dollars indirectly
after his return from Canada A. Yes sir he did ut diff
| ferent times.
Was not the amount paid you about g. 400 81 5oOG
| A. Yes, 1t
O. 10 you know from Information by either Of the
defendants your own observation, that he paid Mr..
sswn large amount of this same kind Of money? A.
| Van Aernsm told me he paid Sawin money, bat
whether 1t wac this kiI Of money not cannot say
Q Don't you knor from Sa~in, or by means of any
other fact that ne had large OF this kind
| Of money, at or about the same timef A. No sir.
q. bid not Mr. Won Aernam and YOURSELF arrange to
leave Buffalo for New York within cay after this
| offence had been conf ittsdf A. No, cir.
Q. Did lie not leave the ira in of one evening and
you by the train of the following morning. and you
curing yourself TO accompany him, but directing him
take lie at the Irving House your Joint
occupancy He said he going to leave Ia ths
evening" told him 20 room for myself at tho
Irving Houre there nothing raid about plying
room toge her; left the next ornns took he room
IL the Irving House, and lie occupied il with he was
not at tie Irving House when arrived; inquired for
him; They raid he not here
q Did not Van Aernsm receive and show to you one
letters from Sawn MIN, in reference TO this
Can ian aft busne,sf A. He read . letter but
he cid not say anything ABOUT this Canada
O. Did VOC not two t@legraphic de patches
to him from sawin, upon that subjectt A. don't rsoo
| ect seeing any
q Whist the IMPORT Of the Iettsr from sAwn read
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