New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-05-10

fairly dealt with / called him Is a friend and one who
had been always kind 10 and treated me- vel nld
him that cid not der that Mr. Austen coniu'tiny
himself right and that had made complains 20 the
Committee Of Management aud told them that ID MT
consider be altogether straight and that Nr A v Aus
ten had denied what had aid that he called Col
Warner damned rascal; Insisted that he had aud Gen.
Wheimore told that Mr. CozzOns the President had called
On him ard complained Of Col Warner receiving
this $3.50 monthly. and boltered up in what |
said in respect 10 the charge had made against Col
Warner. and that lie himself had drawn his check
on the bank for sl2 n make that amount good aud
that he did not consider tie denial Of Mr. Austin an 0untsd
to much. Mr Fuerton-I want you to locate the tins
Cbsrmsn-Locate your question Mr. FL wish we
could locate the witness then would 90 on faster.
Chsrman-We have him here in body and We viii Gu
endesvor t. keep his mind so q What have you said to
Gen Whitmore against Mr. Austin before you aud be hl1
this conversation told him that Mr. Austin would
make drafts payable 70 order niead Of bearer and
also instead Of presenting his bills for disbursement
TO the Finance Committee when they in session and
quorum present that he would present them 10 Col Warner
when alone after the Committee had adj burned during
recess; 70 say he did this often tina not 10
every instance and from the fact of h having spoken Ill
Of Col Warner made suspicious Of his having taken
that TO get his bills passed Mr F. At that time hal
you copies Of these memoranda A. | do not think
had the memoranda at that time this wl in july but
had them after Gen Whitmore luled my saspiclons
against Mr.. Austin by saying he did not think that ne
would do anything wrong; do not reoOleot CON
planned 20 any other member OF the General Con
mittee az ,inst Mr.. Austin z Did the mere fact Of
Gen. Whrmore saying George would not do wrong
do away with your suspicious A. Well not tnat
alone, but also the general tenor of his conver
sation | did not after thl' conversation win
Gen. WhitmOre take copies OF account, had TAKEN
them before but had not had time 10 look them had
some conversation with Mr. Austen on the 2th Of August
O. When you part of the letter which speaks OF
the difficulty between and Mr. Austen did you refer to
that of the conversation with Gen Whtmnre respect
inc him referred that and also 10 conversation had
with Mr. Al stem. Q State what took place between You
and Mr. Austen that day A He charged with having
gone about the streets malgning the members Of the Com
mitee; denied it, the denial was true he said that Mr.
COZzens was highly incensed when be heard L. and he
piled that he glad not trse, and wanted me 10 put
that denial on pspe which consented to 40 al once ne
also said that might say what chose with regard to the
charges against him being trhng, and wrote lmeng
in gen.raters embracing denial OF having spoken OF
the Committee and stated that diff guilty between myself
and Mr Austin had been explained and
wanted me to go beyond that aud something ct the way
in which be had conducted the affairs of the Institution and
that wrote that letter which has been read and at his
Request and when signed the letter he paid me $50 for
which gave him arecept q Please lay before the Com
anything else hat you have in your possession or under
your control which in your judgment reflects the ineg
rty Of G. w. Austen Mr. Shannon-I object to this, as
do not think will throw any light on this subject Mr.
Fullerton argued that in order to follow out the profession
of having this investigation full possible that was
necessary that all papers at all bearing the subject
should be laid before the Committee. Mr. Shannon-f
there any memoranda made by the witness consider
they his property and cannot be forced from him.
but if there any documents in the possession of the Art
Union on this subject they can produce them
tOI contradict him and clear up the doubts.
MI FulleronI want to end this matter as soon as posi-
BILE and the better way to do that 10 put in tho papers
and lay them before the Committee and let them 60 before
the public he says he has documents in his possession
which produced impression his mind that Mr. Austen
guilty Of let have these documents IN
Justice D. Mr. Austen that may what grounds this
impression Of his founded for all might not think
he does Chairman-He said before he had documents
with him. and you would not allow hi to produce the
MIR. FL did not hinder him Chsirmln-Iou said never
mind the documents; go on. Mr.. F-Certainy. wlen ne
answering question, wanted to have that hnshef
first, before he went TO another subject CAtrmIn-You
would not LET him go on with his explanations
let him go on now and explain the document
Mr. M Mt QWn' ana .tfIZ
the documents he says prove guilt W his mind but
remark. from h.m or them further Chtrmln-ln-,a
should nave been got on the examination in chief Mr. f
The chairman viii please recoll-o that am exaninmg
the eros, ard that had not opportunity ~
knowing these before existed r,ylor-I there prya
documents do not whs; right W. nave To thea d
you ask for original document Mr. FL ID MT care
whether they original copies. only Ii Us have them
Chairman Memorandl made for one private are
bis private property and much hi, "a, hs own
tbougits 10 not think that such would beegtl evidence
Mr. F-Cenainy, Il admit them 70 be received Chair
MAXWELL may admit them when the tine AR
lives bat have power To fore. them. M FL 10 moi
WHIST diff uliy there can be in admitting them fos they
would he construed against rs. Charman-l c.r,uniy
must say don't understand thu express wit very IN
proper you have had room TO make any such remuk
that they would be construed sg tns You NJ F.-Nnu
remark II certainly Toes require very large
Of capacity understand the remark said they woul
be construed against put them IN evil'nce Chair
msD-1hat explains the matter, but the expression W.,
very crude Mr. F-There nothing crude abonit Il
could be easily understood and do not see why The Chur
should readily apply the remark. Chsrman-Wel don't
want 10 bandy words Lex n, 90 on. Question repeated
will say that an willing to do if get proper tine 10
prepare them, and will bring them quick. too. llvs
you any ori gna papers belonging 10 the Art Union
No sir do SNOW whore they BE- found Of my
knowledge. q VIII you produce what you have 81 pre-,
entl have one, but would not like to give il up
il may be destroyed on mo, but would give copy Mr.
F-Read it then and It will do. a. think the document
reads
sept 6. 1850 American Art Union. Or
Sept ~ For opening Gallery
For advertising Philadelphia Is -
sa1
And reoeipted in This way
Reimbursed to by Treasurer Jan 5, 1851. NJ COZZANS
and the goth of January they appear have been
through the books by the usua entry in which of Mr.
Ausens vouchers entered either when the Committee
in session afterwards q How. in your juig
ment does that reflect Mr. Austen A. In this way Mr.
Austen had authority tO pay Mr.. COzzens money,
and then keeping days after he paid until il he
came old matter before he entered the books or
brought before the Auditing Committee il always
claimed that Mr. Cozzens was in advance 10 the institution
and conceive that the proper mode would have been for
MIR CoZZens TO present that bill 10 the Finance Co nmitee
and allow his associates To pass IT, there being vOuch
asced for the disbursements said to have been made
instead of the course pursued by him and Mr Austin
O. How do you know when this entered on the books
A. Judge from the bill itself all bills which passed the
Finance Committee bore the date Of their passage he
face of them, should do and they entered the
books after that tins bill purports to have ptsed the
Finance Committee Jan 30, 1851, and il is dated the
23d January Fullerton-Ihe wrong you complain Of is
that paid before passed by the Fnsnce Com
uittee Witnessles, think that Mr.. COZZens a
Austin wrong in being a party to the translc-
ton q. Did that with respect 10 your
salary A. do not know whether il did or not; |
Know L gave proper voucher for nv sdArv, AMI
there Is no proper voucher attached to this think
il very likely that my salary paid in that wsy
kut then the my N all