The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-01-07

vantage OF ahe having read it, and none Of us hsv
ing done 60, but only listened TO 1t while read by
the Secreary-l hope II will be postponed and print
ed. that wa may be able 10 act upon inellig emily
MIR. SHIELDS The only reason why was anxious
10 pass this bill this morning in order that il might
have opportunity TO be acted upon the other House
during this session IL has failed TO pass through the
other House before for want OF tlne, and afraid If
ii Is not acted upon now owl i will fail again.
Mr.. SHIELDS. | will conseat that il be postponed
until tomorrow, with view 10 have il printed
Mr. BORLAND. hope that il will not be postponed,
but that II VIII be acted upon Ii subject which
has been before us several times within The last three
four years. ! did think that if any subject had been
fully considered, both by the Senate and the country.
this was the question above all others. The objection
made by certain senators To be that does pro-
vide well enough for The officers OF the army. have
taken some pains to ascertain the opinions OF many oi
GERS OF The army on this subject was on the commit
tee, and am still on the committee, which reported the
bill We have taken pains TO ascertain the views OF the
officers OF The army and there has been any who has
expressed any objection to II, am ignorant OF the fact
Those who have given their views in favor OF il
well qnahed 10 give an opinion any persons can be
AS The Dill has been 80 long before the Senate and the
Mr. CHASE | hope the acquiescence of my friend
IRON Illinois IN the suggestion with regard the post
p0nement OF this question wi with the concurrence
OF the Senate. trust that il will be postponed simply
because desire that the business OF the Senate may be
inlelligenny conducted The amendment which is now
first time as substitute for bill which has been long
upon our tables Comparing that substitute in manu-
script as read at the desk OF the Secretary, with the print
ed bill. find there some very essential differences
and these differences ought to receive careful con-
rdeation at least careful consideration as can be
procured by having the bill printed and laid on our Ia
bles to be taken up Tomorrow. My friend from Al
kansas Mr.. BoRLANDl is member OF the Military Com
mtee in whose judgment and discretion have very
great confidence, and generally find myself concurrng
with him in my VOTE But he should recoect that while
he and the other members OF his committee have had
opportunity to this before, though in writing, other
gentlemen have no, had the privilege OF seeing il at all
hope, therefore, it will be postponed
Mr.. BORLAND. | hope that. as the chairman and
other members OF the Military Committee acquiesce in
the pos'ponement, there will be general understanding
'hs. % i sha be taken up and acted upon to morrow
Mr.. STOCKTON. have no objection to the postpone
men OF this bill till Tomorrow; nay. | desire that it
may be postponed to still more remote period do
not rise however, TO discuss that question, but simply to
ask the chairman OF the Military Committee if he is not
willing to leave the business Of the navy in the Senate to
the Naval Committee, and whether he will not be kind
enough in The generosity of his temper TO believe that
the Naval Committee will their best exertons in be-
half OF The navy. and whether he will not consent TO
strike out Of the bill the words the navy and 10 the
marine rps /"
Mr.. SHIELDS am perfectly willing to refer the
whole matter 10 the Naval Committee. and they will do
very great favor if they will take il upon their
shoulders. The Committee on Military Affairs have in
cluded the navy in this bill, because, on former occa
sion, The Committee on Naval Affairs felt it rather hard
include the navy And another for including both
in bill was that they might be precisely upon the
footing; BECAUSE if one bill is brought in for the
army and another for the navy they might der IN Prin
cipe and in detail But will consent if the senator
wishes it, to refer the whole subject to the Naval Com
miltee, and let them investigate it
Mr.. STOCKTON. The honorable senator would then
commit greater error than think he has committed
now, because he would refer to the Committee on Naval
Affairs important subject OF which they know little or
nothing in comparison with the experience and knowl
elge Afforded
He is well--no one Is betler-acquainted with the
wants OF the army, and no one can or Will do II
more justice | have doubt he is equally dis
posed to do justice to The navy but certainly there is
difference between the wants OF the army and
the navy of the United States in the many particulars
and perhaps in none more than in the matters
OF efficiency and discipline Sir, that the navy OF the
United States requires some reform in several particulars
think there but few who doubt; but this bill cannot
the reforms adverted TO, some OF which Will
mention the risk OF being tedious 1t contains but
little power that is not already vested by law IN The exec
utive department OF the government The President OF
the United States and the Secretary OF the Navy can now
put any officer on furough who cannot perform his duty
and why do they not perform that duty unpleasant
duty, grant Why is Il ha, senators ask us TO stand
gard their proper responsibilities and dutes The law,
sir has already given them power TO clear away all this
rubbish OF which the honorable chairman OF the Com
miitee Military Affairs speaks Such persons as he
speaks of have business IN the navy They ought TO
have been uoughed long The channel should have
been opened before this, and in different way The
best OmceTs oil tne navy SnOuu nave Oeen CdIeu
the performance OF the highes, duties of the profession,
without regard their rank. The they have not
been 80 called is be found in the mbeciy OF the gov
eminent III they have not the power to do II now, let
them take the responsibility and ask IT,
Bat sir II II necessary for the Senate now TO inter
fere, let have weconsldered system. Let us begin
and make thorough reform Blu, s IT wise to do this
nowo do this the of the Outgoing OF an admins
traon The Committee on Naval Affairs, believe, Tor
twelve months, have thought of nothing earnestly
and anxiously than naval reform, and they design TO
submit, OF these days. TO the Senate their views OF
that reform But OF Them wish to begin al The
Navy Department
SIR, all the members OF that committee cherish re-
gard patriotic love, for the navy They cherish those
feelings for it only account of the remembrances
OF the past bul the anclpatons OF the future They
member that this nation indebted to the navy more
ons OF the country for its present lofty aud prosperous
position That without fear OF contradiction. Sir,
when dsmay pervaded this country. when the dark
cloud of misfortune was hoverng over you, when de-
ea, followed defeat in your army whose shouts OF tri-
umph terminated and reinvigoraled the patriots heart
1t was your gallant navy. And yet, sir, the honorable
senator from New Hampshire Mr. HALE only on yester-
day complained OF the expenses OF The navy. Sir, the
expenses OF navy nothing comparison with its
importance, its usefulness They have been. One
baltle-ihe battle OF the Constitution and the Guerriere-
was worth TO this nation than all the treasure
that has ever been expended upon the navy. Remem-
Der, that at the time of which speak the British navy
and nvIncihy were, IN the minds oil most OF our coun
trymen. one and the same thing, and remember. aso
that your executive quaed before the terrors OF that
and your and mercantile marine abandoned to the
enemy.
Ii officer OF the navy (HulD who, against au-
thorty, without ORDERS in opposition to the will oil the
government, went to sea- and with his noble ship and
gallant achieved for you that victory which aston,
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