New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-01-13


more than the precaous Ecen - cut tyevoois, sld
u wa but N keepI-g win he- former conduct thai an
snouu now tsNe possession ri the la ami coionts
them n ire very tech cf r. sssr-icr ~ tr - " m
meni a the Monroe dactrre How strange wouit
sppea! 10 ue ora tEai Al tie very moment s1- 1inis
tne linked STATES azNust takilE aly Stands ~ territory
IN TINT region. shc comes -Tari and wh1u any Ttt
takts possession Of aud colonies these isllnf- tie
wished not % lZtt I'D any tres which 'n-hi csd -
general combustion Gld be not iuselslh,e u tle
dangers which contest With Any Of the maxi ne
powers AZ ms time - this county sN he desired
that the voT5 might know tsr they could not presume
TOO lar nor too long On prudence or our confidence
he desired tie n4Cns Of Europe = be ;iat tals
Government Iney ~ n emergency be prepared % com
pete successfully VIII any al q them Hehldn' fear
for the result o. such contest He wOult tall them
that II such uODteet might realize the expecta
tlon o. The British statesman AM ind untcr our ban
ners the dscOLtented Of every lsnd and al these com
psininC justy or unjustly Of wrong and oppression
He would have them remember that there is IN the
epElt OF Teedom more power tnsn was ever eXhiohed
IN Tie whole history o. the human race He hoped that
this n after would shortly before the Senate IL
some tangible shape in which the Senate mrht INFORM
England that II there be any doubt in the provisions OF
tn Clayton and Bulwer Iresy, taa, VIII give notice
o. our intention 70 suspend IL eject
Dir PEARcE said he came into the debate
only for the purpose Of defending Mr CLAYTON aiast
the charge thar he bad done away with what gentlemen
supposed should nave been the effect 4 the Treaty A.
be uhdeEstood the treaty England byt had surrendered
no rights m Brush Honduras But there are gentlemen
here who do understand that Tregtv sweeping Great
Britain rom all Central America. He did not uner.
stand IT, but did understand intenilng stop
croschments Of Great Britain in that quarter. How
y that gentlemen who understood the Treaty,
erd who have known Great Britain has continued the
occupancy Of these islands the before the Treaty
have never said ore word the subject til now. in
mOnstrance otherwise But he not to continue
tie debate, but to make statement in bshalf
Of Mr. King Il written and handed
him by Mr.. Bragg. OF the House 1t in these words
Col hing desires Mr. Pearce to cay IN Senate that it
fos- info in
has been represented saying IN reference the Clay
ton and Buwer Treaty cast the slightest mpuatjon
Mr. J. NJ Clayton in reference 10 that matter on
the contrary be desired do Mr. Clayton the justice 20
say that he Is convinced that in everything connected
with that Treaty be (Mr Clayton was octuated by
patriotic anxiety 10 protect the rights and interests OF
his country. Col King feels mortified that anything
said by him. under msapprehensl0n OF the acts o. tne
case should have been made the basis for unjust reaec
tons on Mr. Clayton This statement, b. thought, was
best in keeping with Col Kings character for strict in
tecriiy and scTupulous honor
Mr. SoULE asked whether che Senator from
Maryland applied Mr.. Kings conversations while the
Geaty pending
Mr.. PEARcE said he was not authorized to ap-
ply them in airy way.
Mr.. SouIE said that he had always consid-
eyed that the precarous right of Great Britain to cut log
wood had never been touched
Mr.. PEARcE said that nothing he had said was
20 the effect that Great Britain had any right TO dominion
over any part OF these regions. but that those rights
,vhsaever they were were untouched by the treaty.
Mr SOULE said that previous 20 the treaty
Great Britain had set up other pretensons andt'ese
preteue iOns were he understood u be swept away
by the treaty He read letter from hr. Clayton to
Mr. Walsh that Great Britain had no rgnt to Colonze
any ptrt of the Mosquito Coast or Central America
Mr Downs read from President Taylor's
McsssR communicating the Treaty 20 show that the
President understood the Treaty to menu that under IL
Great Britain would have no right 10 coiJnize tortliy
&C. any part of Central America, defining the boundar
les az Ceatral America from the southern boundaries OF
Mexico the territory OF cwGranadn and these limits
ceItsnly included British Honduras; and also that
the Treaty were ratified it would relieve all Central
America from European aggression. He oontended that
Grca, Britain had the ri ht 10 COLOMBO SC, before the
Treaty. it was abolished BY thar Treaty. He comment
ed alec upon Buwers letter TO Clayton expressing ala
Willingness to sign the Treaty, wihtanding the YER
bel perations and yet two months after reusedto rally
II except condiuonally.
MFR. PEARcE said he understood President
Taylors Message defining the boundaries within which
were situated the thEee proposed lines oil commnnca
ton with the Pacific.
Mr.. SHIELDS said that he thought the Senate
ought not 10 embarrrss itself respecting the question Of
the terms proposed by Great Britain in raying the
Treaty lie considered that It made no difference which
was the proper construction OF the Treaty 1t had been
yiOste by the seizure Of these Islands. lnese ISLANDS
never beou ged to- or were dependent British Hon
durss The whole right oh Great Britain was the mere
license to cut logwood, &C., within certain defined
lmits As late 1892 Great Britain renowned all claim
end coonized them tie argued at length to show that
Great Britain pursuing the policy OF obtaining all
the important positions TO gtrdle the American coast
MIR CAss said that, in answer TO tine question
why he had not moved in the matter was that he sup
posed the Treaty he had thought IL was He re-
pelted his conversation with Mr.. King on Thursday
last
Mr., HALE said he had no fear ofany war with
England growing out OF this matter. Let patriotic ndg
nation get as high as Il may % fever and let the
Issue be plainly put England the result would be that
this nation would back square Quit would back from 81
down 10 40 and lower desired but this indignation
must ind vent somewhere he thought il likely that
would not fight England, Mexico Costa RIGA or soue
other weak power would have to take the blows The
sensor from Florida had stated TO the Senate that Eng
land had one ship.
Mr. Butler said that took place in Executive
Session.
Mr. HALE said that he had made known the
fact 10 the world disclosed In Executive Session that
Er gland had ship lsushterl the world could make
the most OF the Information lie said that during TIE
consideration Of the treaty he had heard init
nlate that il would exclude Great Britain from Hon
durss He thought the British Protecorate OF the col
ored gentleman called the King Of the Mosquitoes
the principal object IT was TO remove
Dir. MALLORY explained that the remark OF
his quoted by the Senator was made 10 show thai our
defenses were such that single shp Of Great Britain
could control certain points
Mr. UNDERWOOD expressed his recollection
Of the understanding of the Treaty when before the SEN
ate was the same as that OF the Senator from NeW.
Hampshire.
Mr.. MASGUM said that this whole discussion
useless for any public purpose and perncious to
many interests before Congress- by consuming the time
Ii had opened attack the Secretary Of State and
Administration. That assault had been repealed az ev
cry point and now with the fecundty ofths Democrat
ic party il changed into appeal 10 with a.
land. lie hoped the resolutions would be intro
duced This attack on Mr. Clayton had done more for
him than he could DO for himself He had been in
formed that Mr. Clayton had been this day elected TO
the Senate There never was party assault which hal
proved more signal failure As member OF the
Committee on Foreign Relations he declared that il hal
never been gined by that Committee ths this Treaty
had ever included the British claims in Honduras He
moved al adjournment which agreed 70.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
Mr.. GORNAN moved, but the House refused,
20 take up the Senate bin providing retired LIST for the
hn.,l 70 Nh