Richmond daily times. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1853, 1853-05-20
INTERESTING SCENE IN THE ENGLIS H
HOUSE OF LORDS.

INTERESTING SCENE IN THE ENGLIS H
HOUSE OF LORDS.
The House of Lords resolved into committee
upon the Canadian clergy reserves bill on the
25th of April. The debate was very animated.
The Bishop of Exeter, speaking after the
Bishop of Oxford, said He 1.-THE Bishop of Exc
ter) held that it was clearly the imperial duty of
the crown and Legislature of Great Britain to
make provision for the clergy in Canada. Their
Lordships had heard said what never before had
been heard 10 that House from the Bench on
which the ministers of the crown sat-the asser-
tion of the principle that the value of the lands
in question from the capital and from the
labor of the Canadians. The Chancellor of the
Exehequer, If correctly represented, had stated
the same principle. 1t was the merest chartism.
Mr.. +. O'Counor had been lately declared in-
competent for the high situation of chief char
tist; there could be no lack of persons qualified
for it when the noble Duke, the Lord Privy Seal.
and the Chancellor of the Exchequer affirmed
that those who gave value to the lands by their
labor had right to the lands. Believing that
those reserves would be secularised he 1.-THE Bishop
OF Exeter) should be guiltyif he were to support
the bill.
The Earl of Derby would not tlespass on their
lordships attention beyond few moments But
it was impossible that he his noble aud
language of the right reverend preate at the ia
BILE. (the Bishop of Oxford.) He could not adj
init that by this amendment they had attempted
either to "wrest by force' or shuffle by chicane.
The right reverend preate, he believed would
himself regret the use of expressions, and think
some apology due for having pointedy char
acterised the amendment to which the right rev.
ereud preate not justified in applying those
words. He (the Earl of Derby discaimed the
offa uSiya totio
sions. Hear, hear The right reverend preate
would see that, however he might be led away
by what he thought the strong point he made
In his speech, it was on application of terms
which could not be used without giving juslfa-
BILE cause of offence. Hear, hear. He (the
Earl of Derby could not accept the character
given to the amendment by the right reverend
preate, never having said syllable about secu.
larization, one way or the other.
The Bishop of Oxford stated that, with
their lordships' permission for a moment, he
| would explain the alluson the noble earl had
made The noble earl must have seen that
he the Bishop of Oxford) made the allu-
sion with smile in a playful way, and with
no intention to do what was offensive. He
could only say that it was far from his intention
to offer any offence whatever. Thinking the
noble earl might be defeated on the direct ques-
ton on Friday and thinking that he might carry
of Oxford) said that the noble earl did it by the
amendment He did not think that unpa,lia.
| mentary. At the same time, he must remind
the noble earl, that to speak of the promoters of
this bill as advocating sufaing and shifting poll
| cy, was calculated to prove offensive to them, as
he believed it had proved to his noble friends
near him. (Cheers.)
The Earl Of Derby. My lords, accept Mt once
| tie explanation which has been offered by the
| right reverend prelate: but when he tells me
that it is impossible for him to say anything Of
fensive because he has smiling face, he will
forgive me if quote in his presence from we'll
known author, without intending in the least to
apply the words to him
"a man may smile and smile, and be viain.'
Cheers, laughter, and some deprecatory re-
marks. am at a loss to conceive to whom
what say can be offensive
The Earl of Clarendon, Gnterposing with
great energy and excitemet of manner.) 1t is
| to me. Loud cheers. 1t is to me- l say
| Renewed cheering.] and my noble friends
near me were offended by that expression. We
are not accustomed to hear such EXPIRE ssions.-
| Repeated and prolonged cheering] We are
not accustomed even in the language of poetry to
hear such word as "gillaiu" applied to any
noble lord in this house. Loud cheering.]
| The Earl of Derby. l must say, my lords,
wholly uncaled for, cheers, and especially I'M
| becoming the position which he at present holds
in her Majesty's government; for he must have
| heard me say, before made Of the expires
sion, that was making quotation in which | was
quite certain the right reverend prelate would not
feel that l was applying to him the expression
which occurred in that quotation, any more than
believed, after his explanation, that he had in-
tended anything personally offensive to mo-
[Cheers. 1t will be quite time for the noble
earlto vent his ndgnation when he becomes the
subject of personal attack. l can assure him that
I have not the slightest intention to make him so
and do not believe that it is the general feeling
of the House at all to join in, must say, the
somewhat singular demonstration of u much
wasted Indignation which suppose was drawn
out by the protracted length of this debate
(Cheers)
The committee then at once divided, when the
numbers we're
Content (for the amendment) -.-.....--..- II
Net content against it,. ----.--..--.----.l17
Majority in favor of the government. ..... 40
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