New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-09-02


ate the Prineipalities 1t would not be worth the
while Of Russia to engage IN war with the great
"Poves OF Europe on account OF those provinces which
are already to al intents and purposes, her own Rms
STA has gained without firing shot what IL worth 70
her bloody and expensive campaign she has estao
hshed her power in the Eat she has Inundated ~
key abe has compelled her 20 TO al the expense OF
"a war and has exhausted her resources but, what 10
more abe has Inundated this country and France IN
"the eyes OF her subjects and Of the populations OF
a. the East" -
The Lote drawn up By the Vienna Conference viii
have the result that III the Porte declines to adhere to
at. Russia will have turned the tables completely upon
Gus and made her ally against Turkey competing
her TO accept unjust proposal If she accept Eng
land has directly sanctioned the right OF Russia TO IN
"t4rfere In behalf OF twelve millions Of Christians. the
snbiects ~ the Porte $780,. Look at the question
as we viii it clear that have taken the place of
"a second rate Power in it, and conceded that OF rs
rate Power to Russia alone. We had an
opportunity which, perhaps, will never occur again oil
settling on proper basis this great Eastern question
Russia has been enabled TO strike blow
from which Turkey will never recover. Inc
result of the policy which this country has pursued
will not end here. Sweden, Denrnark every ~esA
State of Europe which has placed dependence on the
character If this country, will that 1t IL useless any
more to struggle against the eDcroachments OF Rusa
Sir John PaEingt0n next made some remarks, which
we're important decaratory OF the views Of tne loy
opposition He regretted that Lord John Russell coud
and TO the country He assured the Government that
it's determination 70 consider the evacuation OF the Prn
cpslties SINE qua non, will be supported not only
BY the opinion Of this House but by the almost unan-
"imous opinion Of the people OF this country I'LL
the papers should have been produced he must reserve
bis Judgment on the policy of advising Turkey MOTTO con-
sder the occupation Of the PIincpates az eas~
JeN of not following more vigorous and decisive
policy at earlier period Of nJurng and holding 10
suspense the interests Of Turkey and of Great Britain
.,A ~ fr bv
moths
Lord Dudley Stuart INDUCED in Of his hsbitual
good naured Democratic declarations, which are GER
tany gratifying to the man who spouts them than
10 an,b body else If you compress inflated balloons or
blown I'D phrases there remains nothing 10 your hands
not even the wind that made them appear like something
Dudley Stuart repeated the oft repeated statements on
the improvements going on ID turkey ann on the rea'er
lbe atty Of the SutaDs rule, whether IN regard 70 re-
LINTON or commerce. when compared with that OF Russia
He remarked, Justly, that il useless to boast of
peace While the unhappy Inhabitants Of the Danubian
PriLGpates actually endured the horrors OF war he
claimed for The inhabitants of these provinces the pro-
lection Of Europe against the terrible oppression To
which hey were now subjected. He showed, by facts
from Parliamentary history that the members of the
House bad the right Of specializing even while nego-
tistions were going He forgot hardly anything,
which must be familiar to true and constant reader OF
Tie Doiiy Ntms. There were two point IN has
speech Although the explanation Of the noble lord
"(J Russel had not been very full, for be told the
House nothing but what il knew before still, iron lts
very omissions, he afraid that they must come to
the conclusion that he noble lord had been dong some
"diag ofuheh he ought to be ashamed" As to the Earl
Of Aberdeen che had told them that peace had been
preserved for thirty years with great advantage to
1.-The prosperity and liberty Of Europe. bat he Dudley
STUART denied that the liberty OF Europe had been
benefited by the peace Where, he would ask,
a. was Poland where Italy where Hungary may,
where Germany" Borne along by the power Of
Huency that fatal gift Of thrdrate orators, the Demo
cratic lord cannot stop till he arrives from the despos
of the Continent, to his native monarch, who rules
: in the hearts of her subjects"
Mr. NJ Mines one Of those ministerial retaIners, ON
whose brew you read
DO not talk Of him
But as property"
did not dare to make decidedly ministerial speech.
lie made an alternative speech. On the one side he
found that Minister'S by withholding the papers from the
table OF the House. acted with very great prudence and
Judgment" but the other hand be gavethem TO I'm.
derstBnd that they would have acted more strongly and
"frmly" the other WY. On the one hand be thought
the Government might have been right in submitting to
the demands OF Russia but the other hand it seemed
questionable to him whether they had not in some de-
gree encouraged Turkey to pursue line of policy
which they we're not prepared TO support etc. etc On
the whole he made out that the he reflected
those subjects the more extreme the difficulties
which they presented TO hs mind the ess he under
stood those suecs, the better he understood the tenn
porting policy Of the Government.
Mr. MoDckton Mines We are refreshed by the rough
straipl tforwardness Of Mr.. Muntz N. p. for Brmng
ham and Of the matadores of the Reform House of
1881. When the Dutch Ambassador made TO Charles
" H. some very Objectionable proposition the King re-
pied: God bless me, you never made such PROPOSE
81 top 10 Oliver Cromwell No, said the Ambassador
q" YOU are very different man from Oliver Cromwell
If this country had had now such man as Oliver
Cromwell We should have had different Minister, and
very different Government, and Russia would never
-. .l.I ,nt. tha Dam ha
Emperor of Russia knew, that nothing would make
this country 20 10 witness Poland, witness Hun
gary. This country was now reapng the beneht OF Its
Gown conduct in those Instances. lie considered the
state of this country in relation 10 its foreign affairs
was very Objectionable and very unsatisfactory one
And he believed that the people OF England felt thst
their character had been degraded and that all
Of homer or the part of the Government was absorbed
" in consideration of mere pounds shillines and pence
" The only questions mooted by the Government now
were simply what would be the expense. and would
war be agreeable the different tradesmen Of the
Z" Datoni" Birmingham happening to be the center OF
sn armament manufacturing and musketseing popula-
Ton, the men of that town naturally sco at the Man
chester Cotton-Peace Fraternity
Mr. Blaclett the member for Nevcastle-on Tyne, did
not believe that the Russians would evacuate the Prnc
palities He warned the Government not to be seayed
- ty ann dynaSte SympathiSs or antipothes.
Assaied on all sides from all shades OF opinion, the
Ministers sat there mournful, depressed inanimase
broken down when Richard Golden suddenly rose con
graduating them for having adopted his peace doctrines
and applying that doctrine to the given case with all the
sharp ingenuity and fair sincerity of the monomanise
with ell the contradictions of the idtologut and with all
the calculating covardice OF the shoP-keePer ne
preached what the ministry had openly acted what the
Parliament bad silently approved and what the ruling
classes had enabled the ministry to do and the Parila
men TO accept From fear of war be attained Tor the
first time 10 something like historical IDEAS heoeta!ea
the mystery of mi sdlecass policy and therefore he was
repudsted as trailer He forced middle class Eng