The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-03


pose 70 give up nay Judgment 10 the House. do not ask
hem 10 give up theirs 10 but el ascertain The point
o. anrfsnce Lei US see whether the obstacle lnsopef
aoe-wheihef the diffcuiiy cannot be avoided see 10
reason why we should not make the experiment The
House invites TO do IL The House have taken the last
step towards reconciliation, and have asked US 10 con-
Ter with them II we -eiuse, sha we not De clearly ~
the wrong, and responsible Tor all he consequences ma
may How from Sir do not think that ihis offended
dignity which flies into passion upon point oil us
kind will elevate character before The country, or
in our own estimation, on cool feIeclon am IN
cined 10 think that we would better take II eooiy
think the dignity OF The Senate can bear good deal
think We would better vote upon The question: appoint
committee OF conference, and pass The appropriation bull
MIR BELL | do not mean 10 say anything IN relation
10 many topics remarks upon by other honorable
tors have exception 10 take 10 their but
think that generally the least that is said occasions OF
this nature the better. Still do not object to the
of those honorable senators who have taken retrospect
of the history of the past intercourse between the two
houses, Leave II TO every gentleman TO take what
course he thinks proper; but think that decision and
fmness on the part OF the Senate be most appopri
aey expressed in the resolves 10 which they II
there Is any sentiment in the minds of members OF the
Senate that the House have manifested disposition to
resist the amendments OF the Senate to the appropriation
bills merely because they amendments OF the Senate,
each senator will be ready respond the question: and
10 manifest proper spirit OF resistance 10 such temper
in the House. by his upon the amendments disagreed
10 by the House, and by the in which the Senate
shall meet the House conference. The question is
understand what course shall be taken in relation 10
the invitation TO from the House TO agree TO
other conference op the dsagreeing votes OF the two
The condition in which the question stood when this de-
bate commenced, and desire that the President will
'as e eus sue hss
announcing that II disagreed 10 The report OF the commit
OF conference the civil and diplomatic bill and ask
ing second conference of the Senate on the disag
votes OF the two houses The senator from Texas
that the Senate decline the request of the House
OF Representatives 10 appoint another committee OF con-
ference on that bill
MIR. BELL do not think tina, ,ha, is a proper pro-
ceeding. have never heard OF a proposition OF that
kind before think there is precedent for it but
do not much about precedenls when we can effect
anything practical and sensible the proceedings OF the
two houses do not say that there is great deal In
forms but STILL upon question OF so much deiicacy
the present, there something in observing proper
forms understand the question correctly The House
have not taken as extreme a measure as they might.
They have adhered 10 their disagreement tOlhe amend
ments of The Senate but they have disagreed 10 the
port of the committee OF conference. They neither ad-
heed nor insisted upon their DISAGREEMENT to the Sen
aes amendments do not find, either in the first or the
second message IRON the House, that they have insisted
rensised Their has been mere rejection
of the report Of the committee OF conferences whereas
they might have voted adherence, if they thought
proper 10 make point with the Senate and not TO have
another conference, when OF reconciliation or
agreement could be had They might al once have ad-
hered and sald You must come TO us, or this bill shall
fail" II the House OF Representatives had taken this at
step, should have said there but course left
the Senate and that would be adhere their amend
ments, and there tie bill would fall But, under
stand the message of the House. they do insist
they merely ask second committee OF conference. The
particular point OF disagreement between The
houses He has mentioned the increase of the salaries
OF the cabinet officers How does the honorable senator
know that J
Mr. DOUGLAS II the senator had listened to me he
would not have asked the question sad that il might
turn out that point of that kind was involved; and |
inclined think that would turn out to be point
OF that description bu. l complained that we did not
know what were the points; hence he should not ask
me how did know.
Mr.. BELL | supposed that the honorable senator
really intended 10 nsnuae that that was point oil disa-
greenent have iew remarks 10 make IN relation to
the which think the Senate ought 10 pursue,
As have said, the House have not adhered they have
asked second conference, which is moderate and mild
course OF proceeding SO far as their proceedings OF
which have been IN formed Indicate there IS no nien
ton 10 show any dsrespect 10 The Senate. IL they had
adhered, then il would have been due the part OF
such stage of the proceedings the part of the House
would, according 10 all parliamentary usage be discouT-
Mr. COOPER The senator will allow me TO ask him
question Have not the House already in effect adj
hered Have they not sent this message asking a
conference, as means by which 70 procure further con
MIR BELL. II bad come to any such conclusion,
my course would be different.
Mr.. COOPER. do not see how any can under.
stand il in any other light.
Mr.. BELL. must say TO the honorable senator from
Pennsylvania that The course Of the House has been
merely disagree The report OF The committee OF
ference. which they have perfect right 10 DO There is
nothing common IN the history OF such proceedings
than 10 have two, and sometimes three four confer
heed, then 10 ask conference is dscourleous II is
discourieous 10 adhere mean IN the hrst instance
They generally insist and then einslst-sometmes again
and gain but when they come TO an adherence IN The
hrst instance, and ask conference, then IT Is dscour
teous for conference would to be asked only with
view 10 force the Senate 10 recede. do not under.
stand the House to have done that
Mr. COOPER. | understand that this precisely in
effect what the House did. When the committee report
ed, motion was made to adhere, and that motion was
carried and then motion 10 reconsider was made, lol.
lowed by vote that that motion do lie upon The table.
Mr. BELL ii ,he House had adhered, II is not re.
ported TO No such vote appears here, according 10
their message.
Mir COOPER That is the case, as have been in
formed.
Mr.. BELL. II that be so, il puts the whole question
in different altitude
Mf COOPER Certainly il does
Mi. RUSk That Is what understand, and should
not have made the motion il did understand il.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. II that be the fact the message will
show it.
Mr. BELL In order 10 settle that point, should like
10 have the message read
The message was accordingly read
MIR RUSk. II the matter had stood merely where II
have made my motion hut was informed by one or two
gentlemen OF the House II Representatives that motion
10 reconsider had been made, and that that motion wa
ordered 10 lie the table that The subject could not
again be reached
MIR. BELL That does not make much difference,
IL would be only adherng their vote OF disagreement
TO the report Of the committee Of confeepce which they
had perfect ht TO do but they have not voted an adj
berence 10 Their disagreement 10 the amendments OF the
Senate; anu ii they bad done So we should have
no night 10 take offence at II merely upon hearing upon
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