New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-12-01

The Committee on Carson which was adjourned from
las, week Monday assembled in the chamberof Assist
tcnt Alderman at 3.35 p NJ. Present-Aldermen Neon
key al Barker
The cross examination of Mr. Van Meas was continued
have read the testimony given by me at the last
meeting since that time.
Mr. MoConkey-0n whose suggestioni
Witness-My own Tho firm Of y A. Torben X Co,
built No. engine at Newark il built order don't
reco,ct whether did or did recommend the Carson
caIsten into it there had At that time been several con
yeIsstons in reference to think the Carson capstan
put only in city and California engines might per
haps have recommended the introduction OF the Carson
copan at that period my two fold first to
the opposition of The Chief Engineer getting
through the Common Councl; secosd, to secure his
patronage; wished get the patronage of tho Chief
Engineer, because these engines had not been built
order, and had TO be bought by toe Common Council;
these are the only thai give you have
seen rollers placed at the back of piston rods Of old cap
there in consequence OF capstan being larger
than the proportion of the engine would admit of-no
other purpose that know of when the engine not
rightly proI orored the rollers used TO keep the pts
ton RODS steady these rollers attached to the stan
cLon Of engines right back of the piston rod the PTS
ton rod played against this roller with rollers the
rods certainly could not vibrae sideways there was no
for it If the panger works at an angle IN the cham
her the friction might be under crc greater
in other less amount of friction depends on extent
of suffice.
MI McGowan-If the punger works perpeniiculariy
in the chamber is not the friction less than when works
at angle
Witness answered as before
MIR McGowsn said he would not go on II tho witness
Mr. Hand said the witness answered a. man VINO IN
drstands bis business if counsel could not understand
him il was not the fault Of the witness.
Wness-lhave never seen a new engine with rollers
at one rme nearly every engine in New York had them
great numbers of them were enlarged (the capstans
cant say how many were altered from original size OF
AID Barker asked what the object of this ex
animation
that this Carson Capsan not as this witness had said
70 hx,tl
wines and appeared to have no bearing on the real
point in dispute. .
A short conversation then ensued between the Commit
and Council after which the investigation proceeded
and became still dryer than before until
Mr. McGowan asked the witness to describe vibrating
eDgine-upon which
Mr. Willard asked what this had to do with the case
This examination. he said, had been vibrating from one
another, and be hoped the Committee would
not allow il TO vibrate to another subject
he witness proceeded and described vibrating en-
CINE
The conversation about the purchase Of old engines
euned IN 1880 in Chief Engineers Office; Carson prom
sed to sell for me three engnes If would give him bo
Of $50 each he said he would sell them for $500
piece told him would about IT, words 10 that
effect the conversation about the different engine build
bidding against each other took about four months
ago the only persons presents there was an engine
building there which was not contracted for Mr. Carson
furnished the plan Of il and took interest IN Il Carson
said ahard that these engines La Fayette place
should be lef hand; said the same he stated that
the bidders could get better prices for their work they
did 20 In opposition each other think likely that
Cerson said that the fault Of the holders in bidding
low believe there arrangement proposed for
builders not TO under sell each ohef only heard Of this
do not eirn il as a fact
Witness gave the address of Mr. Torppln.
Mr. McGow Anywhere does Mr.. Van Ness live
Wiiness-Ibat Is my business.
Mr.. McGOwan-Is Mr. Van Ness doing business In the
City at present
Witness-1hats my business, too.
Mr. MeGOwan-Did you desire Mr. Carson TO take
business off your hands In your name
Whncss-1 decline answering.
Mr. Nillerd-Ibe witness will answer such questions
only relate to the
Mr. MCGOWAN thought the Committee, not the Council,
ought TO decide that QUESTION.
Aid. Barker-Ihe witness has answered the question:
we have nothing else TO do with the case
Several other questions asked after which Mr.. VII
lard and asked Committee to lay down rules by which
the learned counsel could Lo kept within gun shot IL
evident his only desire TO spin out the cross examine
ton until New Year ard then put his hand In his pocket
and say that he honest
Alter some other unmportant evidence the Committee I
adoufned-at O'Clock, to Wednesday afternoon.