The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-04-09

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count Of loose Expressions which revealed the
2s,hr. BaADLsy. ! den't want ,Alm- e bat about
much Si.. ss him .s.~ 1sr' .Sss sd :im nss
!aAerrogatdSes In straightforward mdiIher. Did
II not undtstand3f om Barragas, LIT summer.
IA be was coming bore ~ q witness fpt the Uni
Ans. No. He understood from. Harra1lan that be
came here on businels. What that b6siness was
ne did not tell him bu. account of tfher things
Thich he did in Matamoras. he Understood to what
Cues. Ask him if he still retains the Office of
judge in Ma4auaoras?
An:. The o9hcs belongs to him. He is Judge
proprie:or Of Matamosas
CUES. Is he going back there to take his Office
again when be leaves Washington?
ans. he is going to Mexico. He retains his OF.
nee and up to this time he has the intention of
gong oack to Maamoras to take possession of his
CUES. IL he now absent on leave, or in conse.
qocnce OF political troubles?
ans. Although he does not sec the relation
wMcn M individual business can have with this
present business THAT before the court there "a
no reason why he should not answer the Question
ana ne therefore says that, in consequence OF the
garrison OF Matamoras having risen against the
sdp.ene government, and It not being bis princi-
pie to subscribe to any revolutionary ect-hecause
that would be very bad on the part Of one en;ovine
any JUDICIAL right-he adopted the natural idea
wmcn would occur to any one in a like CASE which
~a 90 20 gu and present himself to the government.
CUES Ask him whether the pronupciamento of
Matanoras was the one that revolutonixed the 90
vernment or not?
ans. he does not know what consequences the
Pronnonciamento of Matamoras has had.
cues IL this the prOnuuciamento of the IA me-
party who are now revotutionixing Mexico.
aus. ne does not know what connection these
onerent pronunciamentos may have one with an
Re-ezamined BY Mr. May.
Cues. You say you did not understand any thing
about this business till you were spoken to on the
subject in the presence Of Mr.. George NAV. Tell
us all that occurred?
Ans. Mr. May was present. who said that his
brother lMr Henry May) had written to him to
know whether any on could be found in New Or.
leans who knew the seal Of the State Of San Luis
potosl, and the signatures of certain authorities
there, and ii 80, to send such person on to Wash
ington.
Ques. Does he know whether he was requested
to apply to Mr.. Dabesteen az a person likely to
furnish him nth the information?
Ans. He ga d before that the Mexican consul
tod him that he had q special charge.
CUES. From whom?
Ans. On the part of the counsel of the United
States. and his (wtness's) being here at all is be-
cause he has accsded to such a.respectable invita-
ton.
Cues understand that, with his family. he was
just about to start, by way of Havana. for Vera
Cruz when this business was first preached to him?
Ans. de was; be was completely ready. and had
gone 70 the consul to get his passport; and of
will mention: that, being in the territory of the
United States he had no legitimate excuse to re.
sist coming here, even when compelled, to give
evidence.
Cues. Then, up to the time that he was about to
leave for Havana he knew nothing about his COM
ing here?
Ans. Absolutely nothing
Ques suppose that sub project wrote to a pre-
feet stating that mine had been denounced.
would that sub. project sign such letter?
Ans. II it were either friendly or an official
letter, it is evident that he would put his sigma.
ture to the bottom.
CUES. Ask him whether there is any signature
to that paper?-(a document was handed to wit
ness, In which he was shown certain certiicate.)
Ans. What ne reads here is not a letter.
CUES. Well, never mind what you call it. Ia
there any signature to it?
Ans. There is not.
Ques Is it report?
Ans. 1t is not
CUES Well, supposing that according to the
laws OF Mexico that paper could be sent By sub
project to project, by any body else, would such
paper be signed?
Ans. 1t would.
CUES Then, ask him whether by the same prac-
tlce II copy is to be given of that paper it (the
copy) would be incomplete without the signature?
Ans II would, by express laws
CUES Does he apply his observation to any and
every paper found in projects Office?
Ans. 1t not only extends to all pa pers found in
the protects Office. but to all copies that are given
by all kinds of public functonaries, of whatever
rank they may be. without any exception, because
'he laws IN that case are positive and clear.
CUES Ask him whether on the suppoeition made
by Mr. Bradley of his going to Mexico to get
copy of paper, he could get such copy without
having It on duly stamped papera
A.s There would be penalties against it. The
PROVISIONS OF the law positive on that subject
CUES. suppose paper was to be used in TO-
rIeignscountry, could go there and get copy to
De used IN this country, and have it certified by
the project without its being certified upon stamp
ed paper?
Ans A project cannot legitimatey sign bis
name at the bottom of any copy that may be
extended upon unsealed paper. because in such
cass ne would act against the positive provisions
CUES Notwithstanding such paper was to go in
to a foreign country?
Ans In that case it would make no difference,
because Inc document would be null on that very
account.
Re-cross-eramined
Mr.. BRADLEY, (showing the witness the rcd
backed book of accounts.) Ask him if that is on
stamped paper?
Ans. 1t is on unstamped paper
CUES Did he not tell us yesterday that the gov.
ernor never certified to any signature but that of
the Secretary of State?
Ans. He did.
Cues. And has he not said to -day that the gov
ernor certifies to the signatures of notaries public?
Ans. He has.
Cues. Are not the signatures of notaries public
nieo Co' tlueu ny tne COitege OF nOtar1e6!
Ans. That s the case in the State of Mexico
where there is q college of scriveners.
Cues Does the law make any provision in re-
gard to copies of papers from the office of apv
project, except in regard to such as are deposited
there according to laws
Ans. The project can give no copies of any pa
pers except OF such as are by law deposited in his
office Such copies would be made outside of the
law
CUES. You say that Mr.. George May told you
IN New Orleans that he had received letter from
his brother requesting him to look out for wit
nesses DID you state to Mr.. George May what
you could prove?
A"s The brother of Mr.. May was not very com.
peient OF his explanation because he does not very
well know the Spanish language. On the other
hand, his profession is very distinct from that of
the law This ia the reason why he could not tell
hun that he believed his testimony would be strong
on such and such point. He believes that he
might have understood that person from San
Luis Potosi would know something about certain
points,
Mr.. BRADLEY. Exactly.
Mr.. CARLISLE. OF course; wink g as good as a |
nod to blind horse.
Mr.. BRADLEY. Was he summoned as a witness
in New Orleans?
Ans He says he has had no legal citation to APP |
pear here. Mr.. Mays brother told him that he |
was invited to come here to render bis services on
the part of the United States, and be says that he
would have alighted gentlemanly behavior, and
also the Mexican consul, if he had doubted what |
Mr.. May had told him.