The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-03-16
UNITED STATES SENATE.
EXTRA SESSION.

WASHINGTON March 15, 1853.
EXECUTIVE SESSION.
The Senate on meeting, went Immediately into execu
tive session. and after two hours thus spent the doors
were opened.
CENTRAL AMERICAN ArfAIRs-DEBATEs BETWEEN MEssRs.
CLAYTON DOUGLAS.
Mr. CLAYTON, (whig) of Del, concluded his remarks
the resolution calling the President for certain
cumens connected with the Clayton and Bulwer treaty
He said the Br sh government is wiling to maintain the
treaty to its full extent and adyerted to several facts in
support of the assertion If he understood the Senator
from Illinois, he NIr. Douglas) considered that treaties
will not feer confne the limits of this great empire
He did not know precisely the exteI the Senator meant
to be understood but the language seemed to imply that
limits not to be crcumscribed by treaties and
that to disregard treaties while the young giant er
Amecais TO rise superior to all things beside With regard
10 .he rsa WIN n % ohred a. ando ne was
limbs not 10 be fettered He (Mr Cayton regretted
to hear such statement from SENATOR because the
Senate the constitutional advisers Of the President
and branch Of the treaty making power.
Mr. DOUGLAS (dem) Of H., explained that, you may
make treaties you please and yet you cannot
check steady regular growth and expansion There
fore it useless TO make treaties with the view to fix
limits.
Of regarding treaty stipulations We must grow.
Mr. DorGIAs interposing said the idea is some
incapable of comprehendine the growth of this natl IN
Few years ago It was an opinion that we could aot eH-
tend beyond the AleehanIes and then the Mississippi
on. 1t was uLwse to pledge ourselves TO what inter
est does not require.
Mr. CLAYTON resumed-with the Senator'S explanation
he asked whether the made better He says
men cannot comprehend the great growth Of this
country He did not know whether the Senator meant
that Kind Of growth which has given to us country
greater than Rome in its palmiest daysgrcater perhaps
than is enjoyed by my civilized ration OF the globeand
yet We are told we are not to obey our own solemn pledges
of honor 1t is nothing but the declaration of the Scra
tor. Let him explain as he that are incapable of
controlling impulses and passions. The solemn pledge
pledge of a nation binds it, Are we to sit here as the
constitutional adveIs OF the President and honora
BILE maintain that treaties cannot restrain after
we bind ourselves to remain within certain limits II such
principle should be established, what nation would con
slider itself under obligation to maintain treaties with u!
If any nation, above all others, owes anything to the
faith Of treaties 1t is this We existence TO tho
French treaty Of 17s which gave confidence and
nest Of to Re, olutonary sres Our destiny
fIom that moment became fixed. And now, when we
have become strong shall disregard treaties. He trust
cd idea of the rowth of this country would induce
ANY American statesman to abandon the principle with
out which would become byword and Missing
throughout the globe. If gain territory let do
honoiably As to the treaty with Mexico the Senator
he opposed for the that he adverse to
the clause which fixed limits and that the time viii come
when Atxco will become indispensable to our progress
and happiness But Mr. Calhoun in thrilling tones, said
the conviction carried to mine enths Of the Amcri
people that Mexico is forbidden fruit. When
annex tho eight nine millions Of Mexico to
this then the days Of republic win be nun
bered TIE people Of that country are educated in the
slavery; and when give them the privilege of cccng
Senators and Representatives In Congress- and trust
them 10 make peace and for have TO guaranty
that this priy &C will not be abused for history shows
that they are incapable Of self government. He
oI this ah other reasons. opposed to annexation His
idea was to build them up asa republic aud give TEEN
all the aid and encouragement to follow our
ample in tie cultivation Of the arts OF peace that they
attain to that degree Of which enjoy in
the SC cree OF selfgoyerDmcnt He would not
and overthrow them. AI0we crowded. Have got
more population than can till the earths We have
hundred millions Of OF land which the white
man has never trod IT, in the lapse OF time present
area shall be covered and shall desire TO extend the
area OF liberty, then he should not stay the advance
OF progress but he thought the day should
come when American statesmen could make the
declaration that intend disregard treaties. We
have always regarded treaties faithfully The honor Of
the country yet dear to and Is valuable TO the
true American than all the land which Mexico contains
1htre was sentence In the inaugural Of the President
was, that his administration should leave blot on the
country record and that there should be act Of his
which could not challenge investigation before the
civilized world Let the President stand by that glorious
expression, which he (Mr Cayton) heard the +h of
March with much qualification and If he adheres to
II he will d arm opposition and meet everywhere with
VAIN friends.
MIR. CLAYTON INTrRRoGATED ny Np M,soy
Mr.. MASON, (dcm) Of Va, wished an explanation from
the Senator, who had charged him with committing
Brih settlements al the Belize are within the limits of
Guatemala. He understood the Senator as making tbs
assertion in language far from being acceptable.
Mr.. CLAYTON replied. saying he thought the dotted
lines NE map in heated the limits OF Guatemala. IL
the Senator understood the map 10 include the Bese,
then he committed mistake
hr. MASON remarked, IL was no light matter TO say
Senator had committed a mistake, aud shoUd not he
lightly cbs-c,A TIc could inform the Scraor ttat tho
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