Southern standard. [volume] (Columbus, Miss.) 1851-1856, 1853-09-10

reasons to allow ordination made without Bishop
Pol. Blk T. Oh IA. Sec IL And again 1--WE are
not simply without exception to urge lneal de-
scent of power from the Apostles, by continued
succession of Bishops, in every effectual ordina-
tion-see as above. And stillingheet quotes an
ancient author approvingly who says every pres
byter and presbyters did ordain indiferently, and
thence arose schisms.'' Irenicum p. 800. The
only apology for such men is. that they had not
attained to those large views of Gods promise
and providence, touching the succession, " which
have fallen to the lot of "Laic''--we press his
claims as the Bacon looked for This evil may
not now be expected ever to occur again--the
waters will never again cover the earth; those
patristc coats aided by "Laic's" breadth of phi
losophy will roll them back, though at the expense
of some of the Fathers
Another point made by our opponent is stated
in the form of wondrous dilemma, which he pre-
sents more than once, and evidently considers un-
answerabe. eff says he cit should be said that
Elders have by divine right power to ordain,
and that this power is taken from them and given
exclusively to Bishops by human arrangement
for the peace of the church, there arises again the
absurdity of supposing that divine wisdom mis-
placed the power, and endangered the peace Of
the church, and that human wisdom improved the
divine plan by taking the power away from the
divine repositories and comforting it exclusively
upon the apointees of human prudence" The
i whole apparent force of this ''absurdity" arises
solely from a blunder of "Laic's" in supposng
that those who adopt the primitive and scriptural
Episcopacy (Which holds that Elders have by the
power of ORDER a right to ordain, but which leads
them voluntarily to commit the function to certain
of their number selected for that purpose-and
who are thus simply "primus inter pares") ere
ate third order and thus take from the presby
terry one of the important prerogatives committed
c toit by Christ. But they do no such thing; Bish
f ops with them "Episcopos" justly says, are
e simply elevated Elders-the functionaries of tn,
/ body of presbyters, to which was committed thu
oversight of the church. Will L. undertake t.
K show that such an arrangement is not allowable
o Let him look into Bishop Stlngheet The mer
S fact that a body of men possess the power ant
right to do iyen thing, does not necessarily i'm
o pose an obligation upon each to do il. 1t ma
be done better and more to the ediicaton-mor
# for the harmony of the body, at some times, by
S portion of the class, than by the whole. So tho
the primitive church-so think MethOdsts. TIL
people in this country possess the right and powe
i to make their laws, but they have committed tn
n work to delegates from their body. Even a Bish
@ op by the power of order, but without jurisdctio
+ cannot ordain in the Episcopal Church. Jurisdic
e ton has been deemed necessary in order to tn
exercise of this function in all ages. Can ''Laic
see the distinction between order and jurisdiction
e The body of our Eldership are without any othe
e jurisdiction than the pastorate. What then is tn
d dilemma? A mere hybrid, a cross between Pussy
h lite opinions and Methodist practice. We dsow
% it and turn it over to Laic to be nursed
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