The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-03-17
NEWS BY TEL T. CIR A PHI.
EXCITING DEBATE IN THE U. S. SENATE
ON THE
CLAYTON AND BULWER TREATY.
Sharp Passage at Arms between Judges
Douglas and Butler.
BUSINESS IN THE NEW YORK LEGISLATURE.
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Discussion in the Senate on the Tax and
Railroad Toll Bill.
Success Of the Emigrant Protection Bill in
the Assembly
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LARGE NUMBER OF BILLS PASSED.
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Fatal Steamboat Explosion. Destructive Fires
&C., &c., DC.
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UNITED STATES SENATE.
EXTRA SESSION.
BUSINESS In THE NEW YORK LEGISLATURE.

WASHINGTON, March 16, 1853.
OFFICERS SENATE TO HE ELECTED
On motion of Mr. ADAMS, (dem.) of Miss, it was re-
solved that the Senate win tomorrow at one O'Clock
proceed to the election Of secretary sergeant at arms
and doorhecper.
The Senate resumed the consideration of Mr. Caytons
resolution calling the President for certain papers
connected with
CLAYTON BULwER TREATY-REpIY OF JUDGE DOUGLAS
TO Mr.. CLAYTON.
Mr.. DOUGLAS, (dem) Of H.. said the Senator from
Delaware had avoided every point in controversy between
them, under of free indulgence personalities
He did not complain of this the Senator had right to
adopt his upon the subject. If he Mr.
Dougla) had been driven from nearly every position
which he had assumed and from nearly every material
fact sustained by official documents bearing his own
signature and he had been convicted of giving an ex
another he might be permitted to seek refuge under per-
sonaites He insisted that Of the Senator's here
for suppr the Hss treaty which has BEEN sub
itted the Senate and has been withheld this day.
The Senator had no authority for quoting all the eminent
men, from the days Of President jackson to the present
in support of his position relative to the Clayton and
Bulxer treaty is not true that either Jacksons
Poks administrations refused to accept Of the exclusive
privilege Of the right of way for tho ship canal when
voluntarily rendered. He denied that he had sought
to make y. this rnnn party question but advocated
authority of great men, He was willing to leave the
future to decide whether he right or wrong His
canal between the Atlantic and Pacific under the pro
lection OF this govel nent it should have been to the
ship If we had obtained it. we could have oneped the
canal to all the world on such terms a. we thought
proper and could have excluded other nations its
use when necessity required II would have been a
bend of peace nsead Of apple Of dscord What has
the Senator gained the negotiation of the Clayton and
way for canal either jointly or separately He is re-
spoDsble for having defeated canal between the two
W. ess to n Ss Sg h mot
rca 80 far from this tho newspapers correct the
British have been bombarding the towns the main
government to interfere with the affairs Of the
aized this by the treaty He has opposed L
=. European question. He has by treaty abolished
chosen TO arIagn him on that portion Of his speech in
which he stated that he unwilling to give pledge
never 70 annex any more territory this continent The
SenAtor wnt on TO argue against annexation and ar
raigned him for having said such treaty as that with
Mexico could not be enforced through all time come Hs
(Mr Douga had explained that the growth Of the coun.
Try 50 great and rapid that the barriers Of any treaty
would not be irresistible, be it would bo broken
through BY natural causes which have con-
and hence the treaty ought not to have been made
The Senator said this explanation made the matter
and that sucha sentiment involved moral turptude and
Senate should proclaim such a doctrine Mr. Douglas as
an to Mr. Clayton thon read from the letter Of
guarantying the present position Of Cuba and said the
Senator would here that Mr. Everett by direction of
be in violation Of the constitution Of the unea sses 20
Now the constitution gives such authority for
pledge that we will never Cuba he supposed that
1t did not give more authority for saying VIC will
Central America and the same question was
applicable TO Mexico. Mr. Everett took higher ground
tonaity of such averment Why did not the senator
arraign the late Secretary OF State and President Fill
more instead Of him. as he was the only who had
expressed such sentiments Mr. Douglas said the Sena
tor had entered into alliances with foreign power CON
trary 70 the advice Of Washington and the solemn pro-
fA0 Gonutn hn Lol -.
taken the policy which belongs to his own country and
had spoken Of with his face towards Europe lie had
ty than on the upward tendency Of America. Go to
Europe, and you will there find nothing to admire but
the views Of past gTeatness-boken columns erected to
dead not to the living race Here everything Is young
system Of policy ada pied to condition. The man
who judges the condition of America by that Of Europe
win certainly fail The Senator had arraigned him for
having attempted to unkind feelings between the
United States and England He denied the charge
unjust He had attempted no such thing; he had only
attempted to plant relations friendly terms by
speaking the truth and they knew 1t to exist He
had said frankly that he did not think England
and that it useless to pretend that love her In
this connection he referred to the fact that England is
continually arming on our coast, planting cannon ON
is friendly to US, why does she do this? If this be
endence of friendship we ought to reciprocate It. and
relations is to lot her know that we understand
her policy, and that not puslanmous
ns to submit to her ag2ressions Let her understand
sions and She viii be refui not to iraussress Our
course il honorable and era hers is liberal unknd,
and unjust and ought to tell her So He did not de-
sire to any territory; but the day will
when will be compelled 10 do IT, Treaties cannot pre-
Tent It. His to give pledges on the sab
jes but abide our time and then do whatever our inter
ests may require :
ExurINe DEBATE BETWEEN Mssns Bur1xR DOUGLAS CLAY.
TON,
Mr. BUTLER, (dem of S G., said if this was mere
gladaoral contest be might feel Indifferent to the de-
had cnI.
avowed from which he totally dissened He did not pro
pose to 60 into the discussion but thought unor
unate that the resolution of the Senator from Delaware
was introduced It had given rise to an unpropitious
discussion foreign affairs which should not be in
dulged in open Senate He dissened from the Senator
from Illinois, that II the duty Of the President Sec
reary Of State TO have sent to the Senate the Hsc treaty
with of being amended to serve the ends contem
Mr.. DOUGLAS explained. He had said the Hise treaty
having come to the Department Of State without the
thory to negotiate ~ the department at liberty to
withhold it send 1t /, tho Senate for amendment
that If the Secretary Of tate AZ that time r Clay
had been In favor Of the exclusive privilege for making
canal, he might have sent II here.
Mr. Burilh resumed-Ihere we're in that treaty prov
Bons repugnan to the constitution and therefore, the
PRESIDENT was restrained by his oath from sending to
1he senate Tor the ratification Of his advisers The Pre-
eoent to perfect treaty before he sends IL here
It should be an entirety. To ask the Senate to
mould treaty would change the whole policy of this
government. Nations must meet with the penalties OF
transgresions as individuals IL treaties are TO be
doctrine 'mght makes right established We will grove ne
fast but not live long Are to fulfil destiny without
Law and restraint We must rely on treaties wh;ch
ought not to be disregarded except for causes
which Justify war. When des pise England we
must despse the tree on the fruit Of which
we have fed-we must dcspise Hampdch, Sid
ncy Chatham, Shakespeare and Burke There was
no country God Almghtys earth he loved SO much as
his own but he loved England because she was hi, mo
the and was proxd of the tributary streams which she
had poured out on America. The very common law itself
made u.s. We have English laws and literature and was
ne to be told we must depse EnglandS He did not wish
70 court any occasion to become hostile 10 her Ti de
bate was calculated to SOW the seeds Of bitterness
Mr.. DOUGLAS wished to say to the Senator that the
Mexican treaty was not entirety when the President
sent II TO the Senate. He regarded containing OBJ
uoxous provisions yet modified and ratified and
became the law of the land.
Mr.. BuTM-I think II was sent here az an entirety the
gothte It.