Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1853-03-26

negative, as follows:
YEAs-Mes'rs Badger, Borand, coopef, and Morton
NAYS-Messrs Adams Atchison, Atherton, Bayard, Ben
jn min Bright Brodhead Butler Chase Dodge Of wiscon
sin. Dodge of Iowa. Douglas, Evans, Fitzpatrick Hamin
Norns, Sebastian, Seward, Smith, Soue, Stuart, Sumner
Thons2son Of Kentucky Toucey, and Weller-3l.
The question then REQUIRED the amendment of Mr.
CHASE and il was decided in the affirmative, follows
YEAS-Mesrs Adams, Atchison, Aherton Bayard, Ben
amin BIZ ght Brodhead Chase Dodge of Wisconsin, Dodge
Iowa, Douglas Evans, Everett Fish, Fitzpatrick, Hamln
Norton rr Sebastian Seward, Shields Smith, Soule
Stuart, Sum Thompson of Kentucky, Toueey and We'll
NAYs-Ms ars. Badger Borland, and Cooper--3.
And the res, oution as amended was agreed to-
Mr. B0RLA. Nd from the Committee Printing, re-
ported In favor of printing thousand extra copies Of
tn mp indicate ng the proposed course of steam navga
tibn h9fveea San Francisco and Shanghai.
And a. motiol Of Mr.. SEWARD, the number was in
c3enlc@ n fifteen hundred - "
,.ess s5s = X sassios i ....,i,.
business sad after some time spent therein the doors
were opsneS and tAs Senate adjourned
THURSDAY, MARCH "a, 1858.
| Mr.. WALKER moyetl to take up the resolution sub
mitted byhim day two since and have the of
the Sena1 upon it.
Mr. NJ IsON observed that his colleague Mr. HUSrEa)
took some interest in the subect aud desired to be pre-
sent when it was taken up.
The mdion of Mr. WALKll agreed to- and the re-
solution Vas read, as follows
Resolced That the Commit Indian Affairs be and
they heby authorized TO delegate of their number
proceed dtrnghe Of Congress- to take testimony
reference said committee touching GER
tain frauds ALLEGED to have been committed by Alexander
Ramsey and oth in making Of moneys to certain
bands of the Stux Indians and that the member said
committee delegated have power proceed points
may be necetary and send for persons papers,
witnesses and take their to stimony, and certify the
with oth8 proofs to said committee for their report
thereon at the nkt session of Congress.
Mr. HUNTR, who had just CONS in stated his obec-
ons in brief aecaring it bad precedent to allow
mittees to sit Turing the recess but that it still more
obectonableto delegate single Senator about
the country take testimony in of the kind and
expressed thu hope that the Senate would susta
the resolution
Mr. WALLER spoke of the moral force which the Sc
nator from Virginia always carried with him when he
opposed any heasure but he did think it ought to
weigh agains made by the Committee
Indian Afrs The committee which had the subject
under Investigation could proceed further unless the
testimony required could be had 1t subject of
very great importance and should be thoroughly
mined There WIRE very serious charges brought before
the committee SINE of which he held in his hand.
Mr. SEWARD desired to know what the charges we're,
and would be ga if the Senator would state their sub
stance
Mr. wALKERssated in effect that, under the treaty
with the Minnesota Indians, S593, 900 appro-
prated which WIS placed in the hands of Gov Ramsey
to dsburse. TIP leading charge that Gov. Ramsey
had exchanged e Government drafts for paper money
in New York, Which he had carried to Minnesota and
employed agent to make the payment to the Indians,
which agent hal imposed upon the Indians by subecting
u
he money not fairly disbursed among of the
half-brssds aRd entirely withheld from others He had
lived losg - The frontiers and knew the Importance Of
satisfying @ indians of the disposition OF Government
see that they protected in their just rights.
Mr.. BRODHEAD had heard much Of those charges
against Gov. Ramsey
/ Mr. WALKER begged that the Senator from Pennsyl-
vania would not consider that he had made any charges
against Gov. Ramsey. He certainly had not done so.
He merely desired to show the Importance of full and
fair inquiry into the charges and Of taking testimony
/ Mr. BR0DHEAD had some knowledge Of Gov Ramsey.
He a citizen of Pennsylvania, and he (Mr. b had
with him in the Legislature Of that State and he
had also served with him in the House of Representatives
of the National Legislature and he felt it due to that
gentleman state that during all that period Mr. Ram
sey maintained the character of gentleman of integrity
and honorable feeling and though he differed with him
in political sentiment he had always esteemed him honest
and worthy He willing the charges should be in
quired into it due alike to the accused and the
country that the investigation should proceed and he
knew of no better mode than that suggested by the hon
4 orable Senator from Wisconsin.
/ Mr. SEWARD, from his knowledge Of Gov. Ramsey
could not believe the charges to be true and indeed if
he had not known him he would feel himself bound to dis
believe them until they proved After the state
ments made by the Senator from Wisconsin, he did not
see how the Senate could well refuse to adopt the resou
ton as asked for by the Committee Indian Affairs. IL
the investigation should be suspended it would 60
over to another year. and such delay might be the
of the subject being lost sight Of entirely become stale
| Mr. HUNTER said that Senators seemed to argue as
though he had objected to the investigation. He had
done no such thing it the proposed manner Of max
ing IL that he found fault with He had no doubt that
the Executive would the investigation be made
during the recess whether they passed the resolution
not; il was the legitimate duty Of the Executive, and
should not be delegated to single member Of a commit
tee of the Senate He opposed it account Of the dan
gerous precedents it would establish.
Thedebate further continued by Msssrs WALKER
MALLORY, BUTLER, T0UCEY, CHASE, PETIT,
ADAMS and others, when amendment was offered by
Mr. ADAMS the effect of which that committee of
three members of the Senate be appointed take te
mony in the premises during the
/ On motion by Mr.. MASON the further consideration
Of the subject postponed and the Senate passed
the consideration of Executive business and after
time spent therein the doors opened
When the galleries opened, motion pending
to adjourn to Saturday On this question consider
able discussion ensued Some Senators desired to adjourn
10 Monday the ground that the Executive would have
an opportunity Of sending in other nominations
When the question taken, it was found that the
Senate without quorum.
Mr. BRIGHT moved that absenees should be sent for
which motion prevailed, but it was enforced and
after considerable discussion the Senate adjourned
the motion Of Mr. BADGER, who called for the yeas and
nays, and il decided in the affirmative, MS foows:
YEAS-Messrs Badger, Borland, Bright, Butler, Evans
Everett, Hunter Mallory, Mason, Phelps, Shields smith,
Thompson Of Kentucky, and Weer-li
EAYS-Messrs Atchson Baynrd Chase, Cooper, Dodge
Of Iowa. Fish, Jones Of Iowa. Petit Seward Stuart sumner
and Toucey-I2
FRIDAY, MARCH %, 1858.
Mr.. ADAMS submitted the following resolution, which
read
Rsoircd, That the Secretary the Senate be and he is
whose duty shall be to attend tho Senate and assist the
Secretary and to do such duties when the Senate not IN
session, the Secretary may require And he shall receive
Per annu out Of fund Of the Senate he same
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