The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-15
Tr1cnnial Convention q the Protestant
Episcopal Convention.
BISHOP IVES OPPOSED.


DR.. WATSON of New Jersey, who read the Lessons
Tie Rev. Dr. CREIGHTON having taken the chair, the
minutes of the previous day read and approved
The first business the reception of message from
the House Of Bishops stating that the Right Rev Dr.
Wainwright had resigned the secretsryshp of tho House.
and that Rev Dr. Balch Of Pennsyyan had been elect
ed secretary in his stead
Rev Mr. CoxR rom the committee appointed 10 nomi-
nate Board Of Missions reported the of the fol
lowing gentlemen -Reys DR.. Potter \. y. Dr. Mason
\. c.; Or. Walker s. C.; Hon E. A. Newton Mass and
Hon. Luther Braash
The vote by ballot was dispensed WITH and the above
named gentemen elected Board Of Missions, plgd
On motion, Cyrus Curtss, Esq. was admitted to seat
in the House instead of Hon. j. A. DIX who deciaed
The Comm ittee the Standard Bible hen called
upon TO report being the order of the day In eonSe
qnence Of the chairman being absent the OF
the report Of thi. committee was postponed.
The question of the establishment OF proposed Court
Ct Appeals then called up by Rev. pr RDGLsY Of
Delaware.
Tie plans before the house were
1. To constitute the House Of Bshopa Court of APP
peals
. To constitute the representatives Of the bodies of
menhe House of Bishops and the House Of Clerical and
Lay Delegs ei-an Appellant Court
Upon this question, DR.. RIDGELi made few remarks,
Offering at tie close, the following utious;-
Resolved That community BY The s.nstrq ssion
al these orders houd be represented IN each Of the depart
resolved That subject Ccurt Appeals refer
red 70 the Committee Csnens with directions TO inquire
ola csurs Of Appeals which may smbody the principles
pressed in the above,
Mr. EVANS. Of Nd, 50 conded the resolution.
Rev. In. MASON, of n. c., said that canon to tina
effect had already been sent down from the House Of Bsh
ops and hat the House OF Lay and Clerical Delegates had
referred ii to the Com uilttec on Capons
Rev. Mr. LAY said that the delegation from Alabama
agreed in moving to lay the whole subject the table,
The motion was lost, when a division called for.
The call for division subsequently, withdrawn and
the question put on the re erence, AMI carried.
The question was then again taken in regard to the
.l,fy Asltr ht.hn
Rev. DR. FINToS, Of Massachusetts, on behalf Of the
Committee on Canons to whom was referred the canon
reported in of the following canon being rejected
canon of the day before altered and amended
CANON MINISTER DECLARING MS REMUNERATION or
SISIsTRY ABANDONING COMMUNION or THIS cIuac
whom there is no scolesastica proceedings iatta
ed s declare il writing TO the Bihop Of tne doees in
trial q elergymaa where there Is no Bishop te ina ole
Vie ministry this church and does not intend t. oicat
in future the ocss thereof IL shall b. the duty Of
the Lishop ecclesiastical authority aforesaid whore
.aers Is y. Bishop Of the Staaans eenmt'ee to record the
asvca authority whom such declaration made may
eiscreton orbear act thereon for Of ms u not
draw lis declaration. hut any minister afors aid,
se ne q tho church her S9 4. opsn M
runcat tf the doctrines discipline ant worship Of this
y tie la Be- Il. duty Of hs aaa
np hers " h .aoy
aforesaid which certificate shall be recorded and shall
alton tie minister WHO has abandoned it, The
is eeayaen certificate being recorded as aforesaid it
in fr the ministry and 70 pronounce and record il the
Been the ma Church Ia dacs s
in whcf there i Bishop tie sentence shall DO pro
Standing Committee 70 attend for that purpose.
Provided always nevertheless that the minister deposed
may unless his deposition shali have been connected with
circumstances affecting his moral character at tins
addressed the Bishop Of dioeess wherein he
pesed admitted candidate for the ministry II this
Concerning Candidates Orders ia this Church who have
other Segions Denominations canon VII, 1881 Who're
y sa and
which he deprived And shall duty Of bishop
es ssSsp Of this ehnreh and tie saaa
ing Ssa ss no
aforesaid shall have ground to suppose party
any eanoniesl offence discretion
the q the standing committee tho bishop eocs
sarstion [ssns as present Canon v, 1851
Rev Tr. TRArEa called attention to conaiction be-
the proposed Canon and Canon xxx Of 1881 Tho
anon in question reads thus =
See ]. When any minister ia desrsdsd from the holy
higher 4 lower order ofths Deposition di,piae.s
ma All like are the came b a. No
Hon Mr. GARDINER Of Maine, thought that after the
ORES 'mnistry of the church. in the nnetee ath line
he following words should be insertedfsr not
Affecting Iii moral character, II such BE the fact
member also thought the words land not witadr wn "
after the word aforesaid in The fifteenth line should
be inserted.
There were numberess amendments offered to this
canon, and upon it arose long debate Amid SO many
amendments, it often impossible 70 tell upon what
about what the speaker talking.
Judge CHAsHls Of Maryland was opposed TO the anon
When gentlemen talked OF mercy he would remind them
Of the mercy due to the community. People who went
over the Church q Rome did so because they were
afraid TO keep their own conscience They wanted .
guide They mentally and spiritually weak Here,
when depending upon themselves, they afraid - do
anything but when they put themselves under the ban
Of the Pope they are ready to do everything Here
they fast themselves to death Ia Rome they drink them
selves to death. He opposed TO showing mercy to
spostate receiving back into tie church those who
had uptariy left it.
Rev ALEXANDRA ynToS, of Massachusetts, said he
they bound to look with consideration spon
mental errors mental errors show mental activity Every
an has his vagars in life and I'll are liable go aray.
particularly canoBica others we're radical and
in these times filed with intellectual confess, seething
With theories and repete with discoveries and
inventions, It war not odd that the mind SHOULD some
tmes ~ astTay. II priest came from Rome and asked
TO be received into your orders woud you ref se to re-
csive im2 No. II even an inhdei came to you ana SAID
that he repeated Of his WAYS and desired 10 walk in the
paths Of tie church. would you refuse hm' No. You
would show he evidence OF this reform and
doors arr open you. Then why should pass
shutting doors forever against who have for
a season departed from the church,
MCRAy HOFFMAN, Esq., spoke next. He ably defended
the doctrine OF giving restoration 10 Bishop where re-
formation the part Of the delinquent was clearly
shown.
Dr. v,,roy Of New York. wish to say We few
words in Of passing this would refer gen
temen 10 the fact the history OF the kngisa Church,
where restoration of Bishop from the Church of Rome,
gave TO the Protestant church that great book which
hillngworth penned. would also cite the instance in
the life Of Saviour where he restored ST. Peter after
he had beer deposed hope therefore that we may not
postpone this canon, but refer it TO committee.
Cali Of question question"
Rev DR.. GREGORY, Of Western New York, then made
few remarks
Judge WILLIAMS Of Virginia. ostponement OF this
question would be distinct enunciscn that this Con-
ven lion does legisate upon this subject.
have thorght Of this subject 10 the committee room
have heard the arguments in this roou but have myself
Only opinion upon this subject
message vas then received from e House Of Bishops,
follows
P,lyed That .he House 81 Bishops with the
House a Lay DELEGATES in the amendment Of the
9Th article 81 the copsttntion.
Judge WILLIAMS continued supporting the canon before
the Convention
The vote then taken upon motion that the canon
be indefinitely postponed, which was lost.
il was then carried that the be recon- ntted TO
tho Committee on Canons.
Dr. MFAD then gave information that in a few minutes
the House vi Bishops would enter for the purpose Of pro-
neunc IL he deposition Of Bishop Ives Of North Carolina
Ii wae then carried that the order Of the day be post