The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-12-20

terfer.d on behalf Of the driver
How die they inter fore A. They intsrfsrsd 90
to still per gst In allowing the driver 70 away about
his business and then the assault com usnosd
g What did they do describe it ssnsralys A. The
@ Were you injured anyS A. Yss, sir.
Q. How were you injured, and whsres A. By brick
bat striking me on the side Of the head,
Q Do you know who throw the brickbat A. No, sir.
Q. During this time where the marshN9
Mr.. AcKeon-Ths marshal IL not trial we cannot Do
responsible fer the actions Of every the
therefore, object to any evidence In reference to Mr.
Sanders.
Recorder think the question is proper ONE can
objs ction to it
District Attorney The that propose TO pur
sue In this for the purpose Of consuming IS little
time as possible propose to show chain Of evidence,
M snd then 20 % .nd the nspss
neced with it trial. and then will show their action
OF consent man, and under orders, too, OF the
District Attorney-o Nov, sir, just state you saw
anybody on horseback A. Yes, SIR
NO. bu "a Vas 'aI
Q Where did you see this person during the OCCUR.
rences A. saw him riding up and down the hns but
did not hear him solicit them to stop beating the driver
Q. Had he anything In his hand' A. think he Lad .
sword.
O. How long did this continue before the police made
their app earance In any memberss A. should judge 1t
to BE- about tweny minutes or half an hour.
Through what streets did the disturbance extend be-
fore the arrival Of the police from the station house, A.
1t commenced at the junction of Abingdon square.
O. Well sir how far did 1t extend2 A. could nst say
that II EXTENDED any fnrtn0r ynan HAMMOND street.
O. Jus. state Whist the result Of the blow got
with the brckbA ard where you went after you received
the blow A. went to the public house and washed
Q How far was the place where you were hurt to the
point where the ARRAY first began A. About 800 yards.
O. On your return what did you fnd2 A. found that
the fight continued usual
Q. You found The fight continued usual and did the
police arrive in any number at that timer A. Yes SIR.
@ State what you saw on your return, and who were
fghtes A. saw the police insisting on dispensing the
riot, and making prisoners
@ What were the other parties doings A. Some were
fighting and some were looking around them.
Q. Who were hghtingf A. The fighting took place be-
tween the rioters, the police and the citizens
When You speak of those citizens, will yen state
who tboee citizens were and how they apparently col
lected there on thai occasenf A. When say citizens
persons who passing along the street ct the
Q Did you see any body Of men assembled there as
body except the policss A. No; the persons collected
Did you identify any Of the persons Is present there
A d,d not identity Any person except the marshal
think he went of with the stage, or somebody took
away from him.
Gross. examined BY counsel for the defsncs-Q. Was
any killed In that riot' A. No. sir cannot tell.
Q. Was not the driver killed in the newspapers
District Attorney-We don't want to make him out
killed
just before the riot took place, what time it, It
about IL O'Clock.
@ whsn you left did you leave any person behind you
In the barroomS A. left two three persons there
Q Were there not more than th.R A. deAt think
there were than four there at the outside
Is It not place where young m. go to drink with
Q Did these men come ou,s A think they did.
O. Did they go towards the stsgeS A. Thick they did.
Q How did they 60 theres A. They walked there, 1
suppose. CLaughter)
O. Was MOI hing said about parcel of IrishmsnY A.
think not.
9 Do you know what the business of these mon vast
@ Were you in the habit of going there9 A. Yes sir
Q Who were those mem A. l don't know.
Q During the time Of the ARRAY did You see them
q Bans street there we're two ssntsmsn and
that took the part OF the driver then these three
four yourg helped them and insisted the rioters
Q Now did they take their part9 A. They took their
part this way When they saw the rioters taking their
hold 0, the Stats and insisted on their ceasng The a
berLians conner sed the 6ght the others
but in vain and those three four young men were
driven back and / was with them one Of them had to
hide uLder . cart
@ Where did the others gos A. They got in between
the tgs e the rioters, and ran away
Abingdon Square Hotel, kept BY Squire Marshall.
strike Any bowsf did.
Q. Who cid they striker A. The men With the green
scarfs.
@ Did you see them throwing stonss9 A. No.
Q. Did you see anybody throwing stoness A. did
Q. What was officer Kelly doing ON the top o, tie
stsge? A have stated that before.
Q Did he not drive the stage OF A. don't know.
q Was he rot on the boxH A. He was on the box
when got to Bank street
O. Are you sure Of thAt2 A. am certain of it; to tt
best Of my recollection he did.
G. Die the ttage 60 eff thenP A. can't say.
Q. Did you not hear him say that If the procession
would cut Of his way he would drive the stage
themS A. cid not, sir
Q Did you not CO whether the straps were broken or
cut? A. did not
A. few.
O. Did You zee them get out A. No.
At the time Of the affrav. did rec Of than
try ing to get out? A They could not account Of the
members Of the society rushing inside.
Few leng had the procession been passing when you
standing the stoop9 A. They might have been
passing abou, twenty minutes.
What va. ~ we're thsy coming A. Down the Eighth
O. There had been no trouble until the stage hal
rivedf A. No. sir.
@ Have you the stsgedrivsr since9 A. I saw him
Did the pole straps break before or after the fght
commenced A. am sure it was after.
Where we're they fastened A. To the pole OF the
stage
Q. Now, sir, these young men from the Abingdon
Square Hotel did they throw any articles either sticks
stores, at the alleged rioters9 A. No sir.
Did they, when they the driver attacked, attack
any one A. They did not raise hand until the occur
Q. Do these men belong to . Gre company A. don't
know, sir.
Q DO you belong to the "Know Nothisgsf" A. That
is question that decline to answer.
Q You stated that you were struck; when and whore
did that take place. A When assisted the police;
Dau you suiAo anyway sAAt my a oiui AAV0
no hesitation in saying 30.
Q Did you knock any one down. A. think my ply
steal spacities are great enough for that did knock
somebody down.
Q Did on strike them with stonesS A. No, nothing
but my fists
Q Now, the question becomes important ono ask
you again If you belong TO secret society called the
''Kuow Nothngsf''
winners That has nothing to do with the case and
refuse to answer.
EDWARD j. Carpenter, the stag drvsr being duly sworn
depofec - follows
On the Fourth Of July last what your businsss9
A. WAS driving . STAGE
c. For whom? A. Messrs. Kipp Brown.
@ What was your stage routep A. Ninth avenue Hud-
son street. Canal, and Broadway
O. What direction you going In ut the time Of the
occur, enceS A Towards Ninth avenue.
O. Which side Of the procession you drivinsS A.
On the right.
O. Where did you Hrst meet the procession9 A. At the
Of Bar k street.
O. Your line would lake you Abingdon square to
the Ninth avenue, what did you doY A. Ny route waa
across Abingdon square where stopped.
how long did you stop theref A. was about twen-
ty minutes waiting for the procession TO pass.
q What then occurred A. Ny horses became restless
from the firing Of guns pistols, and frscrAckers had