The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-03-26

to1 xaes. Did you inquire there for mines OF
.;y ar. inquired there for townsI say it posi-.
1es. What was the size Of The nlac.,
ans cannot tell-there were ANNE ~ .;,ht
sn,,,a ,sn or nuts. Some were Of adobe. and
t tS 80 noening but poles twies. or rods.
Of tnem-an old one-was made Of ronnd In que
pebbles It was not very large IrecoIsct nn,s;n -
the question there as to towns. p1'''ng
0ues Did you say there-Do you know If . : :
bitants? MIA
Ans ! did not say at that place ..except this ),
asked II they knew of any mineral town contain
ing hve hundred inhabitants, or of any which had
contained that number.
Mr.. MAY. You had COPY of the memoria, q,
Gardiner with you? m ''2o
Ans. I had. Icarried it in my pocket.
E, Mr.. BRADLEY. Did Mccormick, your guide, see
that paper? =
about it, nor did he to me showed it to no one.
CUES. When you came to any place where you
desired to refer It, did you look at it secretly?
Ans had no occasion to refer to it secretly. /
mad read It often-read it before left here
CUES Gould you remember the places named in
u without referring to the paper?
Ans remembered the names pretty generally
have the same copy oft now.
CUES You do not think Mccormick ever "a
that paper? -. = y
Ans. If he did, he broke my carpet bag open and
took it out. did inquire after Simpson and the
other persons whose names are attached to the
dispositions filed with the mining title had their
names noted down In my pocketbook. kept my
never saw that book.
Cues. When you referred to your book did be
not see what was in it? - =, $3.50
Ans. He did not. He was not SO impudent as
70 come up and look over my shoulder to see what
was writing. l made some memoranda when
riding on horseback, and sometimes in NV room.
Ques Did he not make translations of what was
communicated to you, and which you wrote down
Ans. He never did.
CUES What was the particular or general use
you made Of him in your expedition!
Ans. He was we'll qualified to explore a mining
country; ne was good guide and good inter-
prefer.
Cues What use did you make OF him?
Ans would send him frequently to buy things
CUES. Had you occasion to use him at any time
as an interpreter in your conversations with the
people? =
Ans. Not as an interpreter. sent him some
times off to make purcha es for me, and to make
inquiries as to roads and other places for instance
ask where such and such road passed to; used
in this way to get information. ! used him more
as messenger than any thing else. I had no
occasion to use him as an interpreter in making
my inquiries. as could make known what meant
to the people met myself.
Mr.. CARLISLE. What ia the meaning of "naine.
ral?"
Ans. Mining town.
Mr.. CARLnLE. The question you say GU put to
those people, then, as make it out, translated
reads. EDO you know of any mining town other
than this which contains 500 inhabitants"
Witness. said, also, which chad contained
Mr.. CARLISLE. That is the translation of your
question, as you repeated it in Spanish sminsrap
meaning, as you say, mining town; tell US in
Spanish what other questions you put beside that
one?
Witness. positively refuse to speak Spanish
here unless the court compels me.
MIR: CARLISLE. We have a right to know what
was the language he used to the Mexicans in order
that we may BY another witness ascertain what a
Mexican would understand him as asking.
Mr.. MAY. The court has limited the evidence
to inquiries for towns; and therefore the other side
can only ask what questions he put as to towns
The Court said the inquiry could go no further
The witness was questioned over and over az to
did not mean, as repeated by him, contains, lin
the present tense,) instead of contained.
Mr. CARLISLE. Did you use any other word but
s'naineral?''
Ans often said "P.seblo.',
word? '" '''A'
Ans said, Conoce listed algun Pueblo vieio?
Mr.. MAY. What was the answer you received
to that question:
Ans No, senior.
The witness was further questioned as to what
were the terms used by him.
William W. Hunter, ssporn.
By MIR. MAY. You are a commander in the Uni.
ted States navy?
Ans. Yes.
Cues. Have you visited the country of Mexico:
i 80; have you visited the county called Laguin.
Ans. Yes; have visited Mexico and the county
called LagunilIas.
Cues. When?
Ans (After referring to a memorandum book
in which witness said he made notes at the time !
landed In Mexico on the LIST November. 1852.
Cues. On what day did you enter the county
called Laguinillas?
Ans. On Monday, the 18th day of December,
1852.
Mr.. BRADLEY. Do you mean that you went into
the county or village OF Laguinillas on that dave
ans. went into the county and the villa ge. too
of Laguinias on that day. WV
Mr.. MAY. What did you go there fors
Ans. l was detailed, by the Navy Department,
man Of the select committee for service reported
myself to the chairman of that committee as di.
rected, % meet other gentlemen COMPOSING that
commission, and proceed to Mexico for the pur
pose of investigating-
Mr.. BRADLEY. interrupting. If you will state
what you did, have no objection
The COURT. He can state what he went for,
mr.. MAY. Will ask you what your object was
what you went for?
Mr.. BRADLEY. object to that
The CouRT. The object of his going has been
heretofore spoken of but if it is objected to, SUD-
pose he cannot state it. He can say what be saw
and what he did, and suppose everybody will IN.
deIstand what be went for, if that is done.
After further discussion by the counsel
Mr.. MAY. What did you look for in Laeui.
nillas?
Ans. In LaguiniIlas looked for a mine aIleeed
to have belonged to DR.. Gardiner
Mr.. MAY. Did you find any such mines
Ans. No. /
CUES. Did you find any mines
Ans. No. /
The DlsTRIcT ATTORNEY. Tell US what means
you took to look for the mine?
Ans BY inquiries, and personal observations. in
travelling through the country
BY Mr.. MAY. You speak Of INQUIRIES as one of
he means you Employed WV VI
Mr.. CARLISLE. object to that, if the answer,
o the inquiries are to be given.
Mr.. MAY. We don't call for the answers
understand your honor to say witness NAV answer
The CoVRH. The answer is admissible provided
relates to any public matters not if it relates To
mines, because that is one step towards showing
where the mine is.
After remarks by the counsel
MIR: MAY: Did you mingle with the people of
4aguinillas?
Ans. Yes.
lilIas?
ans. Yes.
CUES, Generally, or nots
Ana. wherever ! had the opportunity of doing
o. sought the opportunity Of doing 30, also,
6)ueS. In what "a ri of an,,ip;