The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-02

part OF the national deence hough " has not YET ieteh
through will in opinion, inevitably do so al the very
first trial Such "rlckey yconceIus"-which Is the proper
applied by the senator from Virginia 10 such yes
ses-have not single element OF war steamers, ex-
cepl In speed aAd that Is calculated rather 10 enable
them TO escape from than 10 meet enemy AT The very
moment that the great maritime nations OF the earth, alter
experimenting upon tue subject upon grand SCALE have
abandoned side wheel steamers why should we be called
upon to egsae and appropriate money TO keep up such
system Il is found TO be utterly impractcable, and
the naves OF France and England and Russia, have all
abandoned abandoning the side wheel, and have
esoried 10 the popeller And in regard TO this particular
Collins line, officer who examined them, in his report
states distinctly that they could ony be used tor trans
ports, unless The upper deck removed and then who
does know that il you the upper deck you
would have the wheels four feet above the main deck IN
which case you would have TO place one gun forward
and one ait This is the kind OF war steamer that you
have-oi no sort OF use whaeyer except to run away
from an enemy.
NOW, sir, do not mean to go into the details of this
subject throw out this general view to show what
has already been demonstrated by Eng and and France
that side wheel steamers nappcabe Tor war purposes
Compare these with The ships in the English navy
Great Britain this moment has twenty nine propelers,
embracing ships OF from hundred and forty guns TO
six They have ships of the largest class. larger than
our own Pennsylvania. and instead OF adopting the SIDE
wheel they have adopted the propeller s. STEM we nave
taken directly the reverse and at the very moment that
the maritime nations OF the earth abandoning the
system we are expanding millions to keep IT up
In regard TO what the senator from Massachusetts, has
SAID about this system cheapenlng the fare OF emsrans
across the Atlantic, every American, as a matter OF
course, welcomes those who come iroP down-tI tIodden
nations, but the emigrants do not come IN steamers al
all They come IN sailing vessels, which VIII always
exist IN spite Of our legislation The system OF eglsla-
ting thus to dole out money to steam lines, when they
come here and demand ii, will encourage this state OF
things for the senator knows well tbatwhen we give 10
one, encourages another TO and demand the
As the senator from Virginia Mr. HUNTER has correct
y Observed open this thing to competition and my word
for it, there will be Improvement in the vessels much
greater than has yet taken place Open up TO all who
will build ships 10 run in competition and il will be the
O each q ha he hest Of
Mr. RUSk. do not intend 10 preract this argument.
was In hopes that there would be vote taken upon
the amendment without any discussion; but this is too
fruitful theme TO escape discussion. If were anxious
to go INTO an Argument and had time to do so, feel
confident that could all the objections that have
been made The senator from Florida says that these
Collins ships are "rickety concerns"
Mr.. MALLORY. Iquoled the language of the sena-
tor from Virginia.
Mr.. RUSK The London Times don't call them
"Hckety concerns" know that it contended, when
this sub under discussion here, that this $780,
900 which we were proposing iogiye 10 the Collins line
a larger sum than the Cunard line received but
Immediately afterwards III the London Times, which
presume told the truth upon the subject that they had
candor enough 10 admit that The Collins ships
peror 10 thelrs and had beaten them but they said i
was only few hours advance A, the same time they
admitted that Great Britain was paying million and a
quarter of dollars 10 pay the Cunard llne-moe than
fifty per cent above what the Collins ships receive.
Mr.. BAYARD. do not intend to protract the dis
cusson further than to reply TO single remark OF the
honorable senator IRON Florida, Mr., MALLoRY.l He
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earth have abandoned the system OF the side wheel and
restored to the propeller construction OF vessels for
purposes concede that statement TO be true IN part
but Great Britain al least has abandoned the system
of making appropriations for the establishment OF steam
connected with her postal service, which steamers
are 80 constructed that they may be used for some pu
pose in time OF war. She has not therefore, abandoned
side wheel steamers. The difference between Grea
Britain and ourselves is. that have chosen 10 take
only part OF it, and not go on with the system OF
king sufficient appropriations to increase the navy proper
by means OF propeefs which admit the proper
sells for war purposes alone. But because you do no
choose to make appropriation sufficient Tor the support Of
your navy according to the most modern maritime
fare is that any reason Tor the abandonment OF another
system which not only connects itself with a state OF
but ia iHtended also for general benefit TO the
Try IN time OF peace, and connects Itself with your postal
system
As have said. | cannot vote for the appropriation
proposed by the amendment, but object 10 assaung
system, which assault is grounded upon state Of facts
which do not exist Great Britain has not abandoned
The system with which she started, OF granting compen-
saton 10 individuals for the establishment OF lines
steamers which would be used In time OF peace for the
transportation OF her nails and in time OF for war
purposes nor has she deemed proper in all these
ha, the steamers should be propellers. admit that in
reference 10 the navy proper she has adopted the propel
Ter system as think all nations should do. in.
duced to make these remarks merely with view cor.
rect what | believed was msapprehenson OF the sena.
Mr. B0RLAND. | desire TO say that | shall vote
against this proposition for the that voted
against the appropr laon for the Collins steamers
we gave very large amount 10 the Collins steamers, and
the amount proposed in this comparatively small
That is the only substantial difference that
have been struck with thing, and that is the differ
ence between the Arguments used and those which
were used last year Then posages the foundation
Tor The argument IN favor OF the appropriation. That
seems t. be abandoned and have substituted for
The carrying OF emig rants and freight The principle
remains the but the ground adopted for the argu
ment last year seems TO be abandoned and have
ones started in their places
Mr.. JAMES Mr. President, on the question OF The
proposed amendment noy under discussion, would not,
offer any remarks, not that consider the honora
BILE senator's from Virginia and Florida Messrs. HUNTER
and MALLoRY TO have stepped aside from the subec, in
debate, 10 attack measure adopted some time since by
Congress, and In which took part. have refer
ence, slr, to the ac granting additional compensation
the Collins line OF steamers Tor the transportation OF the
mail between New York and Liverpool On that occa-
son differed from both these senslors in opinion; nor
have seen or heard thing since, not excepting what
they nave said to-day to effect the least change in my
opinion on mat subject nor 10 10 regret the
part took IN the business, nor the vote given by me
on lhe contrary, The adoption OF that measure which
gave me pleasure then, gives pleasure still and
rary TO the feeling expressed by my honorable friends
consoer the money well expended, The result to be
nohing more than The qualification CT "naiioDal PRIDE"
and the renowp honor, and reputation the
mas conferred upon us, whcb the honorable nator from
virginia Mr, HUNTER seems TO regard so lightly
Mr. President, what 10 people without national pride
They can be but little better than savages To have ma
uoua pride is 10 be proud of our country and ia closely
allied 10 patriotism. Surely il is laudable pride th.,
leads the citizens OF emulate the
OF another, and wben BY comparatively small expendi
lures oil money that spirit can be grahed In the success
ful prosecution OF great and useful enterprises which re
dound TO the renown, honor, reputation and wealth
OF the nation. the should not be withheld Sir
have recently voted TO increase the salaries of ceran
OF our ministers abroad, and properly too in NV ap