The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-12-12

INVESTIGATION cokTIsUED-TgsrIMDNY OF JABEZ
L. WHITE, CURIOUS AFFAIR.
Before Justice Stuart
On Thursday afternoon the pending against Dsas
w. Van Aerpsm, p w. Sawip, and others Who stand
charged with ing concerned in obtaining s6 900 from
the Bank Of Montreal fraudulent draft purporting to
bs dra by the Hamil Exchange Bank the facts Of
which have hsretoers besn Published The following 10
the evidence given BY the witnesses examined BY the
Heman White sworn asys-Ny place of business ia
Collins Co Il was in Buffalo in November last busi
for firm with Mr. Sa VIM 1t about the 4h Of
occasion. but there vas moi. Of sssus psa Il At the
bank BY him to our credit; 1t was about S35S.
To Mr., Harring .on-rhe psts was paid few days be-
fore maturity; it was proportion made by Mr.. SsUn
who raid he had the money hand went to Buffalo to
Mr. Saw to have that and other indebtedr
paid house have dealt with Mr. Sasin for number
Of years. win has done business with house t.
wards Of 50 yearly We hold other notes Of Mr. SAwn
Joseph s. Taylor sworn says-I reside at No. SIS Henry
street, New York; am member Of the firm Of Rufus
T. Crane Co.; Mr.. 81 vim is d,btor to Arm was
In buffalo in November last business fer our firm,
with M sswn; on that occasion Mr. Sawin paid me an
amount Of money in all about $50; cannot smbsr
the day; think It the day before sawn's arrest
that he paid me the money he paid me the money in
the store
O. Do you know q ON him or otherwise from whom or
where he obtained tbs money! A. he told it paid
to him for debts DUE and part Of 1t he borrowed he
took the money from out of his bank book, but would
not be positive he keeps his account in Whites Bank at
Buffalo.
q Do you know the handwriting Of Mr.. sawina A.
letter here shown the witness and asked II he
knew the handwriting. Witness replied should think
| 1t WAS.
cory OF LrTTrR. -,
ssn ~ sTs i
will find hin gentleman in all respects YOVs truly
TO Mr.. Harrington-s50o OF the money paid me was
draft New York in the Metropolitan Bank; to
der; think so it drawn BY Whites Bank o. Buffalo;
think upon election that the draft vas drawn to the
order Of p sawn and BY him endorsed over to u.s. 1t
was Of the date took it,
Questionable you know Philander W. sawn, Daniel W.
Van AerD.m and John W. Abel, or either of themG A.
Q where do they residep A. Mr. Sawin and Van Aernam
reside in Buffalo as long as have known them, and Abel
Were on in Buffalo the early part of October and
did you Sawin and Van Ae,nam tnere2 A. Yes, sir
A. Not aDv so than other gentlemen around town.
Q, Where did Van Aernan board9 A. At the Mansion
House
Q. Did you visit him At hts lodging roomsp A.
have visited him st his at the Mansion House.
O. Did you, Van Aernam, and sa win, occasion,
on or about the LIST Of October meet together at Van
Aern.ms rooms A. Yes, sir
Q Where you three the only persons present during
during that timer A. Yes sir
Was it in the evening" A. No, SIR, it was about Ave
O'Clock, P. NJ
O. Were any papers msde executed on that osca-
O What was their character A. should think they
were blank drafts; should think four ave, perhaps
more.
Q. What do you mean by blank drafts A. They were
drafts signed in blank, b, John W Abell
Q What done with those drafts at that meeting
One or two Of them we're Allied up by Mr. SAwin
O. OF what character those drafts after having
been filled up and completed by Mr.. Sa VIM A Thsy
headed either Hamilton Bank Hamilton Exchange
Bank, DO not know which, for what amount don't
know, some bank at Troy.
@ Don't you Anow what bank A. Ny recollectio,
lie. they the Troy City Bank am certain about
the Troy City Bank 1t cashier Of that bank
his ra W Is =. 4 $50 sso. Is reeoll.ss
sight drafts
Q What number OF Hamilton Exchange drafts were
there xh be i did not count them the amounts
don't exactly recoec, should think one was for 50 oO0
don't resoect any other amounts at that time know
that there more d,afts.
Could you identity these drafts again A. should
think could.
Sawn destroyed unsatisfactory because of the
in which they were executed A. Not to my knowledge
these drafts A. Nothing, any further than debating
the amounts and on whom they should be drawn.
Q Wac bark directory procured or any othe means
A. No sir. -
q, Was rot py or form prepared from which sawin
II.
selected on which TO draw A suppose Mr.. Van Asr
nam dictated that should be the bank
e. Was there particular di ectit given to Sswin
to how and what peculiar In reference to the
spelling Of the word c.thisr ,achng to tbs Troy Bank
menced 10 write the rattsP A. No, sir.
O. Were there not Dclvie ual crafts besides the bank
drafts signed by Abel Yes sir
q For what use we're these bank drafts prepared A.
dom know
O. DO you lot know that Van Aernam was on the next
vspfrC av 18th
Did you not ki ov that they to 90 into Van Asr
nsms hands Isuppofed they
O. Was not then understood that Van AernAm to
utter them +? A. No, sir.
Q For what purpose we're they made? A. 1 don't
Q. Into whose hands did they go when fnishsdG A.
The last saw OF them they lay on the table.
Q As you have heard from Van Aernam and 9avin,
what became OF them on that occasion! A. don't
Q. DO you to say that you have never heard
from Van Aernam sawn what was done With the
Hamilton Exchange Bank drafts the Troy City 8ark
after they had been filed up? Yes Fir; never have.
Two drafts en- the Hamilton Exchange Bank ex-
drafts filled up that occasion Witness Sered ~
should say they we're but cannot positively"
Q. Have you any doubts A. They are, at any rate,
similar.
Q About how long were you and sawin ia Van Aer-
nam's,coms A. About ten or fifteen minutes; don't
know whether the room ooOr made fast not.
@ Did this Transaction happen after Sawin and
Van Asrnam came from New York; A. don't know
O. Who brought these blank subscribed drafts to the
roons A. Mr.. Van Aernam took them from his pocket.
book
O. Was there in that room any other busluess trans
acted except in relation to these drats A. None that
know OF.
O. Do you know, from your observation, by the
Information of either Van Aernam ga win
other drafts Of the Hamilton Exchange Ba ok than
those spoken o. were executed in the same manner
those already testified 10, and at different timer A.
Yes, sir
How many other such drafts, you know Of have
been informed by either Of the defer dsuts don't
know any PAL ticular number never informed how
many
O. Do you not know that draft for S. 900 In like
manner fld up By ga wn aso pnrportipg be by the
Hamilton Exchange Bank on the Troy City Bank A.
have been told theewas; Van Aernam told 30; Sawn
did net.
q. When did Van Aernam say it filled up and
where A. In Mr.. Sawn's store on that day tt1nk.
Q When did he tell this9 A. Some time In the
latter part OF October never before.
What die he tell you he bad done with 1t A. That
| he used IL In Brantford Csoada somewhere.
DO you not know that Van Aernam left Buffalo for
Branoid Canada the next day after the execution Of the
hiatt hal hp hat a