New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-05-04

vices and there ssit BOW pending r 4, q no, think
necessary tell the amount Of the suit for do not
that is pecessSy to tell my private Affairs Such qaes
tons objected to by Mr. shannon
M Fullertou-I want 20 show how much this claim Of
hiss we desire 20 show that tbs vuess has pr, seuieds
bill Of several thousands Of dollars and that only
through bad feeling that this Petroa vas Preseuie and
that he in fact the petitioner and moved BY mimi
cal shirt for he hss threatened the Committee to do al
manner Of things they would not pay The bal tina, he
wou testify The state Of that he has done here Anf
we Wan, npeSeh il and to show the so asi"o Of the
entire Transaction. 80,
OIL want to know the amount of ths, bill
Ain the neghborhood Of 5000; do not want to give
any further explanation than 20 say ths; the b presented
copy Of my claim and would wish to see Inserted on
the minutes
Mr. Fuler.on-I understand that Mr. Raymond IS in the
room now and wish to have his testimony be leaving
town for some days.
Chairuan-we will accommodate you.
Mr. j RAYMOND sworn do not receuect ON
being presented by the American Art Union m 1851
The firm Of which member had claim AGAINST the
American Art Union December ISL, Tor advertising oSs
few dollars from that tine up February last there vers
sundry charges against the Art non tor sdNtrpsng 10
The Deiy Iines it extended from December lsSi, 70
February last and consisted Of several items Of sdverusn
each charged az the regular advertising rates OF
the paper and nothing more The aggregate amount was
sls5 and some odd cent? md that 50 know have
any reason 20 believe IS all the money paid 10 INC
T,ses for advertising the Art Unon there was another
charge against the Institution IN ISL think for eoryce
which shall have TO explain in detail shtte the President
OF the Art nion Mr. CozEers came 20 AZ ohce
sometime in that year Garnet recolec when, but was
sometime before subscription books closed ne wSn'e 20
have my opinion the best mode Of msksg an appeal ~
the country in order 70 ill up its distribution books before
the day OF distribution talked over several diaeren,
WAYS and finally told him OF way tnsi hAd been "ope1
bv The propreors HSrpers Magazine TO issue paeard
in connection with newspaper embracing prospectus e'
each on the same sheet and they could divide the expense
ard told him was about TO issue prospectus 81 Ae
Diy TtMes newspaper and that the appeal OF which he
spoke might be placed On the same sheet Win hNt ~,
ask ed what the expense would be epnea thA We ~"u
charge him simply the cost OF one han OF the Wh'e paper
ussd making no charge for composition, presswf OF
ANYTHING else he then asked what would be the agreEo
smount told him il would entirely depend on me nhoee
Of copes printed and that should probably not PRINT
les than 600 and that the paper would PROBABLY eos m
the neehbCrhOod of cent sheet mere vas
some further conversation aooS, 'ne s'yly ~ 70 l3
circular should be pr nted and then told hun We would
insert the same the Heky Times which we sent OUT a.
sp.rinen number ami thst ii he pleased we would sput
the Art Unions appeal in that weekly paper and they
b purchase A, many papers they choose for cent
each for distribution. and then put the appeal on the back
OF the pacsrd without charge whatever hs concadei
10 10 So that the arrangement made we furnished
tham with 500 copies of the weekly paper and the fes'
dent desired them 10 be sent 10 the suoscnoers OF inc
former year in order that they might oe reclaimed
for ls5i they sent 90 the Post Once by ns'
we also furnished them, or sent To their suOsorio-
ers through POstmasiers throughout the United States
copies Of the daily paper containing te appeal Tor
which we made no charge At oil the bill, amounting for
$4,000 copies OF paper all Sos o. aud that with the
esq for advertising already specified all - TAR As know
or believe that the propretors OF Ihe Times or any one "
them ever received from the Art Union for services rem
dered mentioned az the time % the President that tho
law required that the postage should be pad ON All those
papers that sent or and that the postage would vary
according the weight Of the paper he desired nae 10 At
tend 10 that matter the Post Office sending
there did and paid the postage on the $4,000 copies.
amounting to $3.50 81 which paid to the Post Master and
which refunded 20 me by the Treasurer OF the ARR
Union was present at the last annual distribution IN
Metropolitan Hall in 1850 think Mr. COzzens presided
a motion made that the retiring members be re-
elected the motion was put by some one IN The
Hall and put by the President IN the usual form, ana
no variation from il attracted my attention there
was very general response So general AS 10 be con
dered universal and the President then said, you
who are opposed No y my decided impression u thNt
there were one or two noes aud said yes remarked
the matter particularly, there was good deal OF talk
about putting them down aud thought that novel way
of putting should decidedly say that there am OPP
pofniy given for any who chose 20 express dissent
o. want 10 know II 10 be- membr Of the Committee
was desirable position
Al considered to be A member sas great nuisance.
because il called me away from my Jher engagements,
hsrrassed my mind and exposed me 10 great deal OF
lguant representation which did not court resigned
twice and was solicited withdraw my letters Of resna
ton and knew Mr. Charles Russell was selected Also AZ
well others resigned finally immediately after the de-
oision Of the Court of Appeals
Cross examined by Mr. shannon became member of
this committee in l-i- a. which cannot say, and
manned m resigned, after the decision Of the Courts thu
first time think Mr. Erastus c Benedict informed me
elected As member, and he hoped would accept
The Imcs started in September, 1881, and was OF
anxious increase i circulaoni then we did SO
ND 20 this present time sent out 200 copies OF tho
weekly and 1890 OF the daily all Of which contained the
joint circular those were extra papers We supplied our
subscribers besides with copies OF both papers pub
sheda weekly paper before these circulars were sent 0u
we began publish the weekly after tho daily rs rom The
latter we made up the former had il in my mind that
sending papers containing the circular 10 the subsc
beers Of the Art Union would increase the circulation Of
The Times the bills are in my handwriting and the sigma
ture in the handwriting Of my partner think was at
committee the time the question Of paying came up not
before expense incurred believe; the malignant
representations which alluded by the editor Of The
Herald as one OF the persons and the editor of The Day
Book another of them desire that reply 10 go
answer question put do not volunteer H. but
asked % state who gave the malignant misrepresentation
81 me- and answer these they tho only persons now
call TO my recollection who did my FIRST letter a
resignation in year after my first election as -
member and then withdrew and sent IN another after the
decision of the Court of Appeals at the meeting when
the retiring members reelected al metropolitan Hall;
| was present. but | do not know who made the motion,
do know whether the person who made H. was or was
not member did hear any references made respect
seconded not stayed I'LL ahe pictures distributed,
but did not wait for the distribution Of the medals this
motion was made before the distribution commenced do
not know whether there any persons present. who
were not members do not know what length OF time u
took 10 20 through this eecOn-the time which i would
usually take go through such ormaliythe names
were read out first and then the motion made after
putting the negative the President waited the usual
time for response the whole time occupied
about five minutes the advertisements
sent 10 the Office for insertion and entered in the book
by the advertising clerk and the bill there is copy from
the book Mr. Brady the Postmaster the bill fOz the
entire postage 10 Raymond, Jones Co, and then l
made out bill from that in name, Of one half and
sent IT, 10 TO the Art Union Mr. Jones having
paid the whole speak from general knowledge when
the bill presented the Art MON is the half ~ that
sent us by Mr. Brady from the Post Office, not frO any
special recollection OF his figures my las, resignation
which did not withdraw, was mainly because Of the de-
cision Of the Court Of Appeals
The Committee then Adjourned 20 Al T. VI. this day