The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-09-01
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Debate In the fIoose OF Commons on the Rus
so-TurAish Question.
OPINIONS OF LORDS JOHN RUSSELL AND PALMERsToS,
NIX. GOLDEN AND 0THKRs.
The following cebae took place in the HouFe of Com
mors on the 10Th of August
On moving that the House. at its rising, do adjourn
until Friday Lord RussELL made his promised expls
nation respecting the state of the negoations the
subject Of the difference between Russia and Turkey
He shou Id not be said upon the defence of the
government VII ch had Lot been attacked chat House
having ide,se,y left in the hands OF tho govsra-
the conduct OF these negotiations. With respect
to the rroducn.n OF papers, he had not founi that
had usual In such to lay papers the table
while the regotiaioas stall pending. uunl they
wete brought ISSUE He then proceeded to give
an outline the transactions they had occurred,
without referring 10 documents which were Of the
nature Of secret papers, bat glsnoiug =. nctdeats
generally known to tne House ard the public When
the present entered upon Office his attention
hAo been called question OF the Holy Places and
he wrote to Lord Co ~ey ambassador at Paris but
at later period be had been informed by the Russian
Minister in that the Emperor Of Russia sat
isdsd with the zion osde TO him upon that matter
and he felt -d that nothing sould happen disturb
the relations bet Russia AZ Turkey Lord John then
a1verted the ariysl IF Prince Alien chkof at Castan
tincps, in March and The ncideI. between him
FuAd Eepdi The turkish Minister Foreign Affairs to
tAs request CT Col koe that the Bri tees should
cesd from MalA 10 the Eeghbofhocd Of ConsAntiugpe,
Lord Strs1ford capital IN April he inored
by the Turkish Minister aha certsn demands had
made b5 the hu-slsn Ambas ador, compliance
which the Su tspr considered, would 30
ccmLs With H. irc ependeuce at the same time, the
rursish Mimi ter had reply not simple negative,
but rcte csicniaed " put "a cad TO the dispute.
Prince MeDsob1k,a instead # treating this note
Zoe uIthey ntgotia ons ~ihdre from CONSTANT
uol step wncu n (od John) coos ids red to be
rtgr, tied IL NJ. - 70 him that the withdrawal Of the
mission Il I'd BY the prepare tons made by Rus
Sis strong basai and military force having been
advanced q
fo-tu rste step culated to create great Her
M..sty's government had in consequences thought it
necessary 10 CIV. that the British fleet should
proceed from Malta the neighoOfhood Of the Dsrda
ieles snd Fres feet took the sane course the tso
governments and France having acted entire
coacert iD ofoer 10 obtain solution Of this quss
ten compatible s,th the Independence ARD Integrity OF
the Porte and Dot osrcgatory TO Russia The step
that the La OF Run sa directed his stmY
capy the Prnc,paiu Of Moldaya ard walschia issu
OF The piihcir ales act of but only
guarantee Of peace, ard pressure upon the
which Russia entitled. 1t Was considered by
both ESglsLd and France that, looking at the in
eat should forego its light to regard the act
tein ard that 1t should not decline 10 enter
into further peg.taiion Of which the ambassadors of
thet-o po<srs etdeavorsd to gather up the threads.
When the ,ssisn govern ment had occupied tue
PiIcpa,iss Austria changed her views upon this
sGbsc. and Nth reference 20 the treaty of 1871 deemed
It necssesry tba' itere should be conference ef the
po~ecs; aud tie Austrian Mnistes for Foreign Affairs
having adopted n rclosiidn Of the FreLca govern
uent IS the groundwork Of proposal 70 Russia the
rots contained in it finally arranged and settled to
10 tsis note The Emperor Of Russia had given his
obesion. Supposirg the matter OF this note to be
Of tie princpares; ard IL was quite evident that
settlement cond BE- satisfactory that did rot include
thsir immediate svac alton which, according to the
satixfacton obtained from Turkey. He must AK the
permission of the House to say nothing more upon
this head and quest rbse The mode OF obtaining the
end na hi be left in tine hands OF the executive
government. He thought there was now fair pros
III L,~o LN.tt Nil.
irdepenter ce and integrity of fIksy--whca he had
always raid main object Of her Majesty's go
which required the vgilAns attention OF the govern
meat and could only be secured BY the union of Eng
LAID AID France ard constant and tiien1ly commuaica
tion between them.
Mr. LAYAaD oonlids- ed that there had been want Of
that energy arc decision in thee tranasctions which
would have been inui ed into proceedings by Lord
Pamss s,on-the transactions, in his opinion involving
= grsst principle be dselt ,in much detail upon the
Indications Of design and Ati6cs on the part of Rusa
in her conduct towards SeIvia, WAachiA, and Media
Va and the proceedings Of her .sador
a INDEPENDENT Greek empire in Turkey, which, div-
ded Turkey ioto abtsgonistical portions, would
causes The very moment that Com tantinopls passed
fom the hs ds Of the TuIks British India you'd be in
Is should iavs sssn called upon to disarm, and Pre-
cautisps should have been taken against her move
msnts. Had she been told that il she entered the
Turkish tenitores it have been considered
eaUs bells, abe would not have daIed to the Pruh
Russis bad row gained what she wanted: she had
whsneTer she pleaieo With impunty, whereas thos
pfincipaIities ought to be made. with Besssrabia,
barrier between her and Turkey He believed that with
on. having fred single shot Russia had gained advan-
xges ~hich would have Iepsid fierce campaign, while
MAO ewarsd sps yea 81 az "a s ne
TuiseJ rsfu,ec the erns: We aust nov join Russia
sgsiDst ter and and If ruf under this terrible pres.
nussa behalf II IL eco coo Greeks not Greeks by
ton ouy but By Iesio. Had the cases been reversed
hare required ne.ely TO evscuate them, but
pay all and make ample apology and nothing
Sir J. PAHKIscros complained Of the shorness Of the
Dot given by lnid JOHN Russell Of his intention
rs1e his after listening to which he said ne
hi not 10 be e1psdsnt nsthsr 70 express any opinion
the policy Of the governnent or TO folio. the noble
o:d INTO the 'sou. topics 70 wnsh ne ma aassr;ed
was in the power of the noble lord TO make
satisfactory statement ana although he rejoiced that
Of the Princpaies sine qua mon, he lsnented that
that should stin ain unsettled poin In making
would b supported not ony BY thu. House. but
by the country All desired psac- but logger than it
bolor Of this country and the balance Of in Eu
roFs. ,.s :, =. su, >, ,,
vsrnnspt in thsss distractions, and ceasursd With as
perity the proceedings OF Ressa IT. he observed, We
lad 6Ad . foreign minister who was not minister Of
Bnssia o. Of Austria but Of England Of these do
plorsbas events would have ared which had disturb
Cd the tranquility and endangered the peace Of the world
Mr.. MnxB thought Lord Dud ey had borne too hardly
upoa government though be could not but say that
thsy would have imp ovel their position II they had
shown . little confidence In Parliament, and not
have kept back their when France and Russia had
published theirs.
Lord RussnI said few words in reply ts Sir J. PAX
ingtOn and Mr.. LAysrd.
kr kuErz OF opinion cha. IL ws had had differ.
eat Govsrnmsot Russian army would have
marched into the Turkish territory. The country felt
that all sense OF national honor lost, and that
vese governed BY pounds, .hillisgs and pence
After some observations by Dir BAckstt
Mr. CoBDEs said every body seemed 70 agree that the
cetduot Of Russia had been tre,chsrous and violent
and to rejoice that the bsd brought about q
sincere alliance between Epaard sod France. The
OFT zoos expressed by Lord j. Russell those Of the
people Il Enslabd, for he believed Birmingham
YOU'D iatter support his pacific policy than precptate
the ocnnry into Still thsre . feeling OF IN
In this country respecting Turkey; but there
was at the same time crossing conviction in mons
minds that the integrity and Independence OF the
Tuiksh empire, as = msxim Of policy, had become
empty phsre,. and netting more II was considered
that ths TUX In Europe intrudsrs-that their
homo was Asia; and that the progress Of events had