The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-11-16


DKNcE OF DAVID v. cAUaHEY, JOHN l.. TALoorr
AND WIN. q. MEACH.
The examination OF this cas-. was continued
on Monday before Justice Ste The evidence elected
was on tb- part of the defendants The rs witness
amped
David " Caughsy, who testified folio VS. rssids At
Buffalo have lived there years have oeea abs at
some the time; know Mr. Sswiu and have Known
him some years; IL salesman aud a clark IN him n
the tu,intfs of clothing in buffalo; have been CLERK
fer him about use sell goods part OF the Il me-
and par, of the time charge accounts; kaaw Mr. vAa
Arrnam pr esent and have know him little over
a year first him in Mr. SAwins store hs ia the
haiti of calling there he used TO call day while he
wa, in and made that his stepping place; have
heard Mr.. Van Aerusin him to Go writing for
bin good many times; havs Mr. Sa win do writing
him; II have Mr. Van Aernam come alto the store
with papers In his hsLdsgo back 10 the desk With Mr.
Sawin and sak out again while they we're at the desk
] they writing, but could not tell
what they writing; sometimes he would
ask him to do q little writing or figuring for
him; it to be a friendly mat betgeen theaso
be general abevshoarc ali tunes appeared TO 30
public and oper Mr. Sawn keeps two foremsn and cut
feet wide; Mr. Sawn generally the desk when be 10
In the stores when not at the desk he in the her part
OF the store especially When customer. rscolect
return be returned Saturday Sunday he returned
from New YORK the foIepart Of October know that Mr.
Mr. Van Asrnam returned before Mr.. Sswin could not
state how long before and can't recoect the number Of
was at Erie Pa was there business collecting;
my family there the tme after Mr. Sa win ca
back from New York. on Monday Tuesday after his
turn recollsct that Mr. Sawin did writing for him
done; they we're very busy at the desk writing.
present when Mr. Van in the stoee; it was
after six O'clock had lighted up; some of the hands
Iss~ Mr. Van A. come in and AK sswin to walk back
to the desk they writing but what they were wri
ting do not know ma 10 public that ali could
hear; did not ace Van have any papers hY hands
when he in; MI Van A. had been store that
day before more than once-ssversl times; could not
ming in there on another day having paper ia his
hand, and put the paper in the pigeon hole when
Il o ss 's Mr. pSs IN
TO tell him to a it out sign it; could not tell shich
It wa to do some writing it, he left the paper there's
I just pulled it out and showed it back In the
pigeon hole; there WAS printing or writing on It;
coald not say whether It was q draft or not;
longer than the width of ooscap the color of the paper
white; do think could not identify that paper;
could not swear that there was any handwriting upon IL
II was either printing writing which can't tell he
left tbs paper in the pigeon hos don't re:olec how
many perons were in the stare when he left it, It was
about eleven O'Clock in the morning.
Cross examined by Mr. Edwalds-I know . man named
month his real name is Henry Viii .; he lives the
Terrace in Buffalo, Of Main street; have
hrx white IN sawins store oten rs keeps an sxcnanss
Of the FIRM cont know where Whs Is now; have not
heard o. him hince he went away in October; can't
state the exact time he went have not heard Of
his berg at New York since; when he left be going
to Connecticut; he told ms In George Whites bouse,
In Buffalo: he is his uncle; l don't know J. l.
White: Sa win does not transact an exchange business
with the firm of White Il Houlliston he Is intimate with
both Of them don't know Of any business Transactions
between them; have White and Van A. int
Sawn's store together; have seen them often do
don't remember having seen them together In the back
Of The store.
Crosse by Justice StuartI Jaw the face
of any Of the writings that Sa win did for Van A. at his
any person; Mr. Sawn never spoke to me about those
wripgs dor It know that any other citizen of Buffalo
sr nacted that Find OF business with Mr. sawin which
have seen his handwriting; don't think he is good
penman as MI sawin have him write Letters there
sften cantsa that have him write anything ess
first learned of Van q arrest from the Buffalo Ees;
don't know where Mr.. Sawin fret heard of it;
home from Ess / spoke to Mr.. Sawin about
Van . arrest have heard others speak of 1t in Buff
faS Ia the store can't remember their names; they
be arrested but he said he had nothing to do With it. and
had no fears Of being arrested did not hear him say
that he did not write then did not hear him say any
thing about the writing of the letters said he hsA
nothing to do with the matter can't say whether hs
either sdmted denied the letters Me- Van boarded
The Mansion House in Buffalo; nsvor knew Mr. Sawin
go to bis house and see him heard Mr.. Sawin
Ieas Of the letter Of introduction he gave Van whom
going to Canada; don't know of any letters being
ceived at the store after Van AS arrest Mrs. Van A.
lived at the Mansion House, have her since
her in references to this matter know Mr. Taylor
he went to Buffalo know Nc Marsh; don't know his
wife, there has not been sealed money placed
in my possession within the last two months, Nor
i i IN the store With my own kno.ledgs; from
time it about the LIST when returned; came hack
the day after Sawn left for New York; Mr.. Sawin ~
turned before Van A. left; Mr.. 5 was away ABOUT
week. Van A. left two three weeks sitter N returned
that is can say; Van A. was gone about
week after his return he to the store usually
comes to the store he returns shoud think
on this occasion he in after his rsturn /
remember having Mr. sswin doing writing foe
done in the back part Of the store at the desk x
seven feet from them at the time couldn't say what
the papers were; cid not see hsm do remember
that any one was near them besides myself nothing
aid about the papers BY either party that could hear;
ntver beard Mr.. Van A. speak Mr. about his whit
to Canada understood that Mr. Van A. going way
to New York at thu time the papers signed under
stood this frcm Van Aernam the day before be
started this was after the signing of the rapers about
day two he told IT any ooe came In
snd asked for him not to tell where she had gone I'D
not know that day two before he had gone Canada
this occurred in the store; he in and shook hands
with him, and bid him good bye when he said, ''if any
sks for me, cont tell them gone to New York;
Mr. Sawin wss not in the store then; Mr.. Van A. had
been there that day good many times but not oftenr
than usual Mr. s. had been in the store that DAY. bat
can't rscoct th.t they were bota there at the sans
Buffalo day or two previous to his coming to New York.
never knew Mr.. Abel till here; have him
10 the store With Mr.. Van A.; could not say when
him there last-hs his way VEST; nave seem
him ard Van A. there together; Van A. and
cone when Abel was PRESENT Whites onice is not within
sight of store; White in Buffalo at the time Vsr
i i0i rev c n0I ~. 'ns % .m LEA. say .ns'
would kno~ Mr.. Whites handwriting IL it, havs
seen him male figures, but would not TO them
there IL bank IN Buffalo called Whites Bank; kno,
where XIX Wal keeps his bank Ing account he keeps
at Wbitee bill was here shown to the wtness bein
receipt from Saw to Van A. for $3.50, dated Oct IL
1862 which he identified being il the hand writing
SAwin
Gross examined by Mr. Cinton-I Mr.. Abel la
last winter at Mr.. "a wins store; il Nigh
might lave been six three months ago; he me |
inquirng for Van A.; he his way Wsst-to Cley
land Ohio
Direct examination resumed-Taylor came there to 9,
tie the accounts Ct New York hrm did not know
Van A. except a customer who bought clothing ths
he came there FIVE six times day: sometimes =
sometimes less; the Mansion House Is opposite to Ii
store take in tie store the Buffalo Commercial
the ttu'ier 1t was In the Buffalo Express
also II in both the psrs In the store this sener
Conversation in the store and In the street about
are. rec0llsst when Sswin arrested the tia
he arrested, he in the habit OF atts aiding
business y usual; Sawlp In the when the
Gel arrested him; 1t was in the morning about . oc
he went away with the officer.
John L. Talcott sworn for the deferce, and exauioe
Mr.. Harrington Il reside In Buffalo, ana have res