The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-04

accept, inc u0eb tnSurrec-
ton may break in
1t does not appear how far France pledged TO this Limo
of policy.
On the LIST the Sultan reviewed his Hest amid the I'm
mense enthusiasm Of the people. Anonymous Placards
still continued to call the Turks to 6ght against the
Russians for Liberty or death -
Mehemet Ali Pasha, Minister Of War, and Reschid
Pasha Minister Of Foreign Affairs then in open oppo
stion, and mutually accused each other OF being the
stgaton of these pacars Reschd accused Mehemet OF
writing those that call for under any circumstance
and Mehemet retorted that Reschd writes those that
call for peace at any cost The opinion at Constantnope
that II war break hoses will drst take place
at Batoum near the Caucasus The Egyptian contingent
Of 10 men left on the 9th ns board eleven
steamers for Varna These Egyptians described
hne bedy OF men, mostly old soldiers and in perfect dis
cipne
report prevalent that an attemp. had been made
to poison Omer Pasha.
Consantinople letters say that Lord RedcIes position
was very unpleasant under the present Turkish
the minister Redshid.
One hundred and seventy houses had been destroyed by
hre at Censtantnope AT Eserzaar, Philpol very de-
structiye conhagraton had likewise occurred.
The Jews at ConstantinoIle had made voluntary offer
Of million of piastres towards the expense Of the mill
likewise
The Gar has added his titles that of 'he
God Fearing Sovereign (souyecain cragnant Dieuo
which title Is duly recorded in the issue OF the I'm
pcrial Almanac.
An American officer, name no. mentioned had gone to
Another had been born the Sultan. The infant
Mussulnan has received the name Of Amurath Eldin
LATEST STATE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.
From the London Times sept. 20
The Turkish question has plainly become question OF
words. The Gar preferred certain demands upon the
sultan touching species Of proteccrate which he might
tan subjects of the Porte The Sultan rejected these de
mands, as involving concessions incompatible with the
sovereign Independence OF his government which
the Gar to enforce compliance orcbly possessed himself
OF the Danubian prncpslities material guarantee
for the surrender he required These proceedings brought
the other Powers of Europe the scene England and
france despatched their the mouth tho
nees and their representatives Immediately those
Austria and Prussa in conference at Vienna All those
movements we're made exclusively, between the
tending parties in the interest Of Turkey The peace Of
Europe and the preservation of political equilibrium were
OF course objects OF paramount Importance; but
garded the respective claims of Turkey and Russia the in
PREVENTION Of the great Powers could have which
were not favorable to the former Not only could there
be no desire of coercing the Ottoman government but
there occasion for such action If Russia had any
rights she unquestonaby competent to enforce them
herself and might have been left to the management Of
her affairs.
1t perfectly plain from these proceedings that the de-
nands of Russia thought unustfable BY the other
great Powers and that they posed for the direct pur
Of protecting Turkey against coercion with which
she was menaced If the case, indeed wers not clear
from its nature all the requisite calculation would
be supplied by the notes which have been published
the subject The governments Of France and England
have declared with the utmost dstnctness and in Ian
guage as strong diplomatic proprietes allow, that the
Russian demands absolutely incompatible with the
sovereign rights of the Sultan and that the occupation
OF the Zanzibar frncpaltes 10y the Gar was such
infracton Of public law constituted just Of
These being the facts and this being the known opinion
OF the medators the four Powers in conference drew up
which they conceived to obyiate all the hazards
impending. Whether the terms of this document
liable to DEMONSTRATION be question Of itself bat
two points unimpeachably cear-rst that the four
Powers intended to maintain the territorial and admins
trative rights Of the Porte; and next that in the
OF dispute they would have been bound by this intention
II was this circumstance which impaired njudcious
character to the notifications which the Porte attempted
to supply 1t highly probable that these notifications
expressed nothing beyond what the conference had al
ready proposed to itself in framing its original note in
deed we may assume much from the assent which
given to the Turkish suggestions BY the adoption or at
any approval of these suggestions the four Pow
practically identified these views with their own and
thus furnished additional proof if any could be need
ed OF their true for the interests Of the Porte
But must be evident that all the securities which Tur
key could really obtain were already comprised in the
note Of the conference for her security depended spon the
resolutions of the four Powers and these resolutions had
been put record by themselves Let take the ex-
IRENE case OF surprising that after the accepance pure
and simple OF the original Vienna note the Gar should,
at some time other have awaited himself Of those
opportunities with which this note, as distinguished
from the propositions of the Porte itself Is thought
to have provided him. He would then have interfered
In the internal administration Of the Ottoman domi
mons TO the prejudice of the sultans sovereignty
The sultan would have protested and would
have arisen for the application of the adjustment
ls5S-that Is to say, the parties TO the note,
the four great Powers, would have been called upon
to say whether they did did not intend by this in
strument that the Gar should exercise the particular
,hority he had assumed If they did not, they woai
have nerposed in discharge of their guarantee in
the sense they themselves affixed to IT, that the note
whether ambiguous not would have been at any rate
efficiently perspicuous for its proper purpose. The
biguity IL any would merely have msled the Emperor
Ruseia and would neither have damaged Turkey d,
. MED the four Powers.
II Is thus clear facts make IT, that the cues
ticn between the two notes. of which accepA
by Russia and the other refused question of words
only, for the intent and spirit Of the instruments
cording TO the views Of the conference in both
identical The four Powers showed by their ap-
prevail of the Turkish notifications that they believed
them to coincide with their proposals The Emperor
Of Russia in rejecting them, demurred not
aly, to the position assumed by the Porte but, in
far he objects TO their substance in other words
to the security which they provide against his
aggresson he objects TO the note OF the conference also
The four Powers in conference did not make division Of
the Ottoman supremacy and allot certain portion but
more 10 the Emperor of Russia they designed to pre-
this nvoae for the sultan and directed their ad
jusmeRt and compromises TO such punctlios of national
imperial honor reasonable would wish to
dsregared II may be- and in fact is most undoubt
edly true, that the Cars proceedings in this dispute
deserve consideration whatever 1t Is equally true that
the combined action of the other Powers could naict
certain amount OF chastisemen upon himself and his
subjects and thus perhaps in degree dispense with
the necessities Of diplomatic forbearance But appeal
10 the plain and right feeling OF the British people
in asking whether it would not be the height Of wicked
folly 70 invoke the evils Of general for the
sake of such views when tho and substantial objects
Intervention could be secured without disturbance Of
tain respect which IL may not indeed, directly merit,
but which is rarely withheld in the intercourscs
may be cleared OF its invaders, and the Turkish
sovereignty preserved whereas hostilties would
not only produce consequences which man can
oresee but would in the end prove nfably destructive
the very dominion which they designed to protect
The interests Of Europe and the principles of justice
quire that the Emperor Of Russia should be arrested in
his designs upon Ottoman territory and Ottoman rights
If thee results be obtained without the cost Of
war by the simple aids Of moderation and fobcaance IL
would DO the excess Of folly TO adopt contrary
true enough that the theoretical Claims Of Turkish
s6vereignty would justify more incorporating policy
but point Of fact it Is impossible to demand for the
Turkish government absolute recognition OF pretensons
wholly incommensurste with it's actual power. A
State which, though pretending TO imperial dominion and
claiming sovereign authority three quarters OF the
globe IL yet mpoen 10 require European protection
al every Of aggression from without insurrec
from within must az least far tho penalty Of
its weakness receive tbs aid indispensable TO its
istenee the terms least To it, supporters
About the substance and meaning Of the Vienna note
Is curbnx ambition Of Russia by the concert Of Eu
rope there must be obscurty but If the world be
saved from and its by verbal concessions
essential points ii j. not likely that the common
sense of Enghmen viii be found to dsapproye the
clusion.
THE LATEST DISPATCHES.
BUnIARFsr sept. 2, 1853
)The march upon that etv OF the third corps Of tho
Russian army under the command Of Gen Osen Sacken
il confirmed -Four thousand Russians the road
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