The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-23
Triennial Convention OF the Protestant
Episcopal Church.
FOURTEENTH DAY.

Triennial Convention OF the Protestant
Episcopal Church.
FOURTEENTH DAY.
The usual number of delegates being present yesterday
morning at nine O'Clock, the business commenced
with the usual divine service
The morning prayer read by Rev Mr.. Tombs Of
Tennessee and the Lessons by Rev. Mr. Talbot, of In
dianna.
The minutes of the previous day then read, and
approved
The Rev. Dr. WYATT, from the Committee the Gene
raj theological Seminary reported that nexpedient
to legslae the disposition of the Rhone legacy, the
committee not being in possession of all the facts in the
case.
This legacy is the subject of law suit in the Cir
cult Court of the United States
The Rev. Dr. WYATT then presented list Of trustees for
the General Theological Seminary nominated by the
yeral diocese in the United States, which list
adopted
The Rev. wM soorr, Of Georgia, then offered rssolu-
on that the next General Convention be held at the city
Upon this resolution arose long Discussion
-, II was moved to amend by inserting the name Of
Louisville Ky.," In the place OF Baltimore
This was lost.
1t was moved to insert the name of ''Phlaaelphia,"
The vote then taken upon the original motion
commencing Baltimore which carried.
motion then made that the House OF Bishops be
requested to draw up form Of prayer for the increase Of
the ministry, which was laid upon the table.
The Rev. Dir. vlNroN, of New York, on behalf of the
ID 0e sms
"Canon Of the Use of the Book Of Common Prayer"
This canon published in the HERALD at the time OF
The rst section having been passed upon its first con-
sideraton the debate in regard to the Sc
Sec 2-Every Bishop may discretion forth forms
Of for his dOoes to be used under his license
places whore there organized parishes and newly
whoy Of S % Prsr
and be used but such as be found in said
The Rev. Dr. vIsToN of Massachusetts, RISE Mr. Pre-
sident, to propose an amendment to section z think
alteration is needed insure its passage would
have it conform to the first section by striking out the
words revocabe at his pleasure and insert before all
and lectures see nothing in this which
will require any departure from our present usage
Rev. Dr.. HASKELL of South Carolina Il rise with reluc
tance to oppose this amendment think there is no
cessy to make any change in present prayer book
II commence altering fear 1t will open the door
to future and perhaps useless alterations Much has
been sa o. the alterations ior poor ana
cannot admit the force sought to be given to these
ments we want TO place ourselves within the appreci
alton of these Southern people, let US do 1t by selecting
lessons which they can understand and not do it by
altering the prayer book.
DR.. ANDREWS of va-It is conceded that it is some
times necessary to depart from forms of public
ship The question is in whom resides the authority
We have decided that il does not belong to the House of
Bishops. object to this it multiples the diff
culties Of the Church. instead Of diminishing them.
Mr.. F0GG of Tennessee-I wish to give few reasons
why am in favor Of the canon as originally proposed In
gregatons and have witnessed the difficulties attending
such labors under present form Of prayer. have
pee pie come in apd out of church continually during
service because they did not understand the form of de-
votion They considered that the eloquence of the
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apd cared nothing Unjust give my sanction to the canon
proposed
great doubts Of the constutionay of the proposed
He ought in violation OF this article of the con-
stitution, which he read :
book Of common prayer administration Of the sacra-
ces Of religion and making, orialning
s % 5. anS s
she Prstssan. hnIoh ho;s doss.ss which ss
shall Be made the book Of common Offices q
the church Or the articles Of reson unless the same shall
made known q the convention and
The Rev FRANCS VsroS, Of MassscSusetts-I rise to
make only few remarks. Tho gentleman who has fast
of the constitution. would suggest to the gentleman
that there two ways of interpreting constitution
either strictly literally or literally We should give
meaning to extent by regard to the under
it. heard the great Webster once say" tell me how
the people practice urd der law and I'll tell you the
meaning that law The speaker went to show that
under this article the prayer book had been altered
and amended, and might be
DR.. MEAD moved to lay the question the table, to
avoid all further debate
He was requested BY several to wharaw but refused
U
The vote was called for by dioceses.
While the vote being taken the following message
was received from the House of Bishops,
Resolved That the House Of Clerical and Lay Deputies be
3 a f Dr. g %
and Lay be
The voting then continued, and resulted as follows
OF the clergy twenysx dioceses voted-ayes s. noes III
the laity twcntyt doceses vOtedayos II; TO-
The Question was declared to be decided against laying
The discussion of the then continued.
1t was moved to amend by striking out the words SOn
occasions of public worship" and insert at morning and
evening prayer"
This was lost.
The question was then taken upon the motion Of Dr.
Vinton, which carried.
The section amended, then voted for and lest
The next question upon the adoption of the Canon
amended and passed by section.
The canon was lost by large majority.
resolution then made confirming the election of
Drs Kpp and Scott Missionary Bishops to California and
Oregon,
Upon notion this was made the order of the day. at
The order of the day was then called for which was
consideration Of the resolutions before the house at the
time of adjournment the day before and published in the
The second resolution was the rst to be considered and
was lost.
The third resolution was carried.
The fourth resolution was then taken up and was also
carried.
The last then came up, and was likewise carried
1t was next moved that the report and resolutions be
transmitted to the Secretary of the Board Of Missions
which motion passed.
Dr. VAN ENGLAND, of Western New York. then offered
resolution recommending increase of the members Of
the Board of Missions.
Upon motion this was referred to committee to re-
port upon at the next General Convention
The canon in regard to minister renouncing commu-
nion with this church. (Which before published in the
HmA1D) then called up from the table, where 1t haa
been placed.
There appearance Immediately, Of another long
debate, when Dr. HNK, Of South Carolina, moved to in
definitely postpone the whole subject.
Before the vote taken upon this notion tho house
adjourned till Z o'11ck in the evening.
EVENING SESSION.
The discussion commenced in the evening where II had
left off in the afternoon upon the in regard to
clerical renuncation Of the communion Of the church.
Mr.. HANKnL insisted upon his motion, In the morning
session, to Indefinitely postpone.
The Rsv. Dr.. vINToN hoped he would withdraw the
ton Az they had given much time TO the question it
would be sad thing to give it all for nothing 1t
important subject, and worthy Of full discussion.
Mr.. HANKnL withdrew his motion.
The reading Of the called for and the