The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-03-25

Oues Did you, when on the road and while
travelling with the commiss s near ana under.
order had been issued BY the authorities of Ian
Luis Potosi prohibiting Dr. Gardner from coming
into that State?
The CoURr ruled the question out; to which de-
/ cision the defence took an exception.
CUES. At your second visit to Rio Verde did you
examine the records?
Ans. No; went, believe, to the projects Of
fee to speak to him.
Ques Did those records appear to be torn or in
any particular destroyed?
Ans. would not have known it if / had not
been told. Some portions of them appeared to
have been destroyed. 1t was series OF papers,
records; the dates were not regular or IN success
| sion.
| CUES. What we're the dates of them; the revou-
| ton took place in l849?
| Ans They were previous to l549. -,
Ques Did you on your second VISIT 70 Lag unli-
4 las not find a record Of the mines
4 Ans did not go into the alcalde's office, on
| ly went to his store.
| Cues. Did you not 60 WITH Mr: WAY ana tne
| other gentlemen into the alcalde's office!
| Ans did not the others may have gone.
Ques Were the records, when you first went
there, not mutilated or destroyed?
! Ans. could not say saw any signs Of their
/ being muiated.
/ CUES Were they connected?
Ans. could not say. The alcalde took them al
| down, and showed them to me. They were ex.
amined by my interpreter; / stood by him at the
\
was searching for coal mines, but would like to see
if there were any other mines there; was xious
told him, to see ifthere were any announcement o
any kind of mine in his office. The alcalde hand
ed me the papers, and told me to look at them; ans
appeared anxious to find some kind of mine, as j
would. Isuppose be of great benefit to the place.
Mr.. BRADLEY. How could it benefit the place to
have coal mine there, if coal could not be takel
/ from it? SECS
| CUES Did you read the papers yourself?
| Ans. read the papers only through my inter
1 prefer; did not read them myself.
| Cues. In Rio Verde, did you examine and reat
| the records there yourself? f
.Ans No, sir; read them only in the same man
ner that did at Laguinillas.
MIR. BRADLEY. The court of course will tell tn
jury there is no evidence of any examination o
/ these records. .-~, * -
| The CoURr. Certainly. s...n Il. .r.a.- =.
Mr.. MAY. Did you not look over the papers a
| the interpreter examined them?
/ -Ans. did = s,.es .,r 5.E
by looking over them, if you did not read them?
| Ans. / could tell whether they related to min
without reading them through.
Mr. MAY Could you tell whether a mine wa
mentioned in them by looking at them? $50
1 Ans. l could. saw sufficient of them, and an
well enough acquainted with the Spanish Ian
guage to do that. Fl
Mr.. BRADLEY. Did you read the papers your
self? &
4 -Ans. did so only through my interpreter. H,
/ was sworn before the project. The papers are no
bound up as in book. They are in separate par
cells stuck together; each parcel had title show
ing it's contents written in large letters the bach
oft. By glancing at these, as the interpreter ex
amined them, could tell if there was mine mon
| toned in them. s.s.r IL, ..s.sg
Mr.. BRADLEY hoped this evidence would not b.
pressed.
| Mr.. MAY. 1 do press it,; it is competent evidenc.
to go to the jury for what it is worth.
| The CoURT. Did you read the papers or the titles
Ans l did not read through all the titles Thu
IL. :.
books; they are in small pamphlets like. but hav.
no covers as book has. On the outside of each
was written in large letters statement of the
contents. If any of them contained a reference tc
! mines, would have seen it and known it. ! die
not read them; some of them could not make out
BIT il any reference to mines was made in them
could have found it, as glanced at the titles. A
single word would have enabled me to discover it,
without reading through the whole.
] Mr.. FENDALL. Did you find any book contain
ing registry of mines in the Office of the prefec-
ture of the Rio Verdel
Ans. Had there been book of registry of mines
Mr. CARLISLE. How about those you say you
could not make ouR . 1.- - -
| Ans. know there was reference to any
| mines -. II. -.r,s a. I'LL. .'-.....
Mr.. MAY, (reading from Dr. Gardeners mining
! title) Did you see any book of registry of mines
in that Office appertainng to the year 1874:
| ans. found no such book there, and was look
ing for that book, because had copy fthat very
| title with me. -.. = ....
The CouRr. l understand the witness to say he
saw a number of papers there, the titles of which
| he did not read, and some of them he could not
read or make out. ! think he cannot testify to
did or did not contain any thing. E... 81,
| Witness. saw no such book as that mentioned.
tbs records on the stamped paper of the coun-
| try, sewed together. $500. o.. -.
Ques. You say there was no such record there
| as that, copy of which you have in your hands,
| and which you had with you? . . $50
| Ans / am perfectly satisfied there was not
have no knowledge of these records but that which
] have stated.
CUES. When did the commission arrive at La
guinillas! ....,
Ans. 4 arrived with the commission at Lagui.
Cues, Where did you stop at? n
Ans. We got rooms, or room, at the house of
old lady there, which was pretty well filed with
heas. We staid there that night went to th e
alcalde's that same night with Mr.. May.
saw Colonel Abbot the first evening arrived;
saw Mr.. Slocum the next day at Don Jose Pan
dos house; he was walking on the portco, coming
in and going out. Mr.. Slocum appeared to be un-
we'll. He walked out on the porch once or twice.
Gardiner at all. do not know of my personal
know ledge that DR.. Gardiner was there. That
was Tuesday and Tuesday night. go.
Cues. You left there the next day-W ednesday,
the lbth-after sunrise, you say: s.-.a,r- II
Ans did. -
Cues. Did you go to visit the mines at that time?
Ans. / did not. do not know if any of the com.
missioners left the town on Tuesday.
CUES. Did you go from there by the direct road
to Queretaro?
Ans 1 don't know il it was the direct road; but
do know it was terrible road to travel; think it
wac the straightest road ever saw.
GUS. In that direction, stan ding in the plaza at
Laguinillas, can you not see large mountain di-
rectiy south? r.r..t
Ans. If you mean the mountain called Lagoona
Colorado,
CUES. What is the population of the village of
Laguinilas? .
Ans. Two or three hundred; but cannot tell
exactly, the place is gone to decay; in some places
there are large number of houses, and but few
| inhabitants. E. ~.
CUES. Are you aware of any corresponds be-
tween the commissioners and any others in that
place? 5. t
Ans. believe there was letter passed between
| Mr.. Abbot and Mr.. May. heard it read by Mr..
| May to the other commissioners. The house where
stopped was exactly opposite, or nearly 30, the
| house of Jose Pando.
Direct examination resumed.-Mr. MAY. Did you
go with Captain Hunter and Captain Doubleday to
| the house of Pando?
| Ans Ibid. No was with us-there were
| only Captain Hunter, Captain Doubleday, and my
| self f-,a- .aF
Quss. Who did you see there? -. *. 80
Ans. We saw Don Jose Pando. They held q
conversation with him, Captain Doubleday acting
as interpreter. -z.-.