Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1853-01-15


Mr.. MALLORY stated the other day do not know
whether not that statement was made in secret
son but II il was believe the injunction has been re
: moved.
Mr. CAss. The injunction has been removed All i
open
Mr.. HALE The honorable Senator from Florida told
you that Great Britain had one ship
Mr.. BUTLER That was in secret session.
Mr.. HALE Well, / have not let out much in telling
you that Great Britain has ship. Laughter. AS
il was in secret session suppose shall have stop
here. The public take much advantage MS they
please Of the fact which ranspred in that
Great Britain has got Ship and will state
what the honorable Senator said about that ship; but
there is an impression on my mind from what said
that we are IN sort Of danger Of going to with
! Great Britain--not the least in the world.
Again. sir II these islands not dependencies Of Hon
duras they do not relate to this subject beg par
don, Mr. President have no subject before us-but
they do not relate to this treaty and will properly
come before the Senate when shall haye some
before us Gentlemen are TALKING about the construction
of the treaty and if there have been aggressons the
part OF Great Britain petition Of the continent or
the islands OF the outside of that treaty they
pertain to the treaty and if you make an issue with
Great Britain on that subject you take other
form of action than that of arragng an infringe
ment of the treaty.
have said that member of the Senate at the
time this treaty before for ratification was not
an entirely inatentive observer though was not Of
the distinguished gentlemen who consulted. do
not remember, in the discussions which heard in the
Senateand certain did not hear, in any CONVEX
sation which had with any single individual from the
time the treaty signed until its final consumnaton
that the British title Honduras brought into ques
ton at all did not hear it named did not hear it
mentioned once directly indirectly remotely mme-
dately in all the discussion which heard and in the
private conversations in which took part The sugges
ton that it related to British Honduras fell upon
my ear But did hear this heard there of
oyeregns Of the earth Of whom the honorable Senator
from North Carolina Mr. MANGUM) spoke the other day
but believe that in secret session. heard there
certain gentleman the Mosquito who called
himself King Of the Mosquitoes dark complexioned
gentleman Laughter. did hear that the British Gov
eminent about establishing protectorate that
Mosquito King Under the pretence that this gentleman
was sovereign of that coast Great Britain extending
her protection him, and in that way interfering
with rights with the territory which lay in way
we were undertaking to negotiate for right of transit
to the other heard Also that the
REIMBURSEMENT and announcement which contemplated
by that treaty. far as had the remotest ntimaton from
any body any time, in public in private related
that pretence of right by which Great Britain seek
ing to extend her proecorate the King of the Mos
quitos. cannot state what said; cannot state
what entered into the cognzance contemplation of other
gentlemen. / can only say that more heard, in pub
lie in prvate-that thought that the ques
ton brought up by that treaty an abandonment by
Great Britain to what right she might have in Honduras
than supposed the United States thought of surrender
ing any rights they had in Louisiana Virginia do
not that it not do not say that every other
member of the Senate did it and read
actly different from my reading and construction
only give my testimony Of those who were here
actor and voter upon that treaty and let 1t go just
exactly for what it is worth 1t is negative grant, but
take occasion, attempt is made to give some i'm
porance to this matter to lay my humble testimony be-
fore that country and that public who judge upon
it. and aver and declare upon my honor as man and
as Senator, that never heard thought did it
into my imagination until very lately that ques
ton of the British title Honduras be it what it may
affected way the other by the treaty which
have ratified. Having said this much, take my seat
Mr.. MALLORY. wish to occupy the floor for mo-
mer as matter of explanation, to finish a sentence
which was begun by the Senator from New Hampshire
believe does not conravene the rule of the Senate for
member of the body explain his action what he
himself have said in secret session would not in
fringe upon the time of the Senate for moment to say
word upon the subject if the honorable Senator from New
Hampshire had not left unfinished sentence from which
wrong inference might perhaps be drawn; and If 1t be
consistent with the rule of the Senate upon the subject
will say that when referring to ships in the remark TO
which the honorable Senator from New Hampshire
has alluded endeayoring to present to the senate
my view of the condition in which the country would be
if the ideas in which gentlemen at this moment
to indulge prevailed here was endeavorng to present
the condition of the country to meet that contingency
which seems somewhat 70 depend upon the course of de-
bate now pursued presented this practical difficulty
These islands, Of which have heard much not
dependencies Of the British possessions IN Honduras
They never have been considered; and notwithstanding
the fact that the British Government has possessed them
and coonzed them and established them govern
ment she had any claim to do so. If you seek
practical issue upon this subject you have it fairly
offered. There is inquiry necessary She is there
She has right to defend them and my word for it. she
win surrender them But in connexion with that
speaking of the condition Of navy said that Great
Britain had ship, which, upon fair field the At
antc ocean, would be match for the entire navy Of the
United States
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. Mr. President, this discussion d-
ydes itself into two distinct subjects and intend to be
very brief upon both of them The first relates
rma-the continents the second relates to the islands in
the Bay of Honduras Our attention called to the
first by the remarks Of the honorable gentleman from
Michigan and the suggestions made by him and others
in the of the discussion have pretty clearly init
mated that the treaty Of 1850 had been ratified in conse
quence of something like suppression Of the truth on
the part of the late Secretary Of State MIR Cayton,)
which had 1t been communicated to the Senate would
have produced the rejection of the treaty by unanimous
vote.
upon the idea that when the treaty used the term Cen
trail America" it meant to include what is called
British Honduras and that by using in the treaty lam
guage broad enough to embrace British Honduras the
subsequent explanations which passed between Sir Henry
Bulwer and Mr. Clayton show that fraud had been prac
tced upon the American Senate This is the view taken
by the Senator from Michigan founded upon allegation
that the geography Of the country that weestablshed
geographical facts prove that British Honduras falls
within the Central America" used in the trea-
ty and that has been unfortunately conceded be-
lieve, by the gentleman from New York, Mr.. SEwARD
and perhaps by the gentleman from Maryland, Mr..
PEARcE.)
it upon the ground that all Central America embraced
by it. and that Great Britain would be thereafter excud
ed from Central America but, like the gentleman from
New Hampshire, / say, Senator, that never
dreamed never heard Il ntimated in any quarter that
any right which Great Britain might have, or claim TO
have outside Of that territory which properly constituted
Central America came within the scope and operation OF