New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-09-09
WORLDS TEMPERANCE CONVENTION.


fcorn,ngp were again renewed this morning but the "a,
law urvaied and the right Of Delegates preser bed
None l. De eaes were admitted on the floor Of the Hal
but ;le frst gallery was crowded With spceta.ors.
The Convention was called 10 order by the Presidents
Hon Neal Dow WHO called upon Rev Dr. Kennedy o.
NewYoIk 70 oicn Ao proceedings viii prayer.
The MINUTES Of the previous meeting read By o.
the secvetar.os Rev Mr. Duficld after which We1dsL
PHILIPS Esq, Of Mass objected 10 the reception Of the
minute Of Tie COnTeton read and about to stat
the grounds Of his objections when
Judge Hoar Of Mass rose point u order which
the beginning Of the general disorder which followed Sew
ea members attempted spak which only tended to crc
ste additional confusion.
Tie Pres dent Gentlemen take seats.
.;a6ge Hoar-I rise 70 Pont OF order.
i yoc,-Toke he platform
Mr. Jackso-If the gena VII lesp feir seofs and
rot disturb the meeting with Manifestations d applause
cheers hses s;anpng aud sim lar demonstrations there
will be 10 difficulty bu that any speaker can be heard from
The body Of the house ard beg the friends Of good order
to at in accordance with The suggestion
The President said that he thought the suggestion
well worthy the consideration Of the members Of the Con
ven;ioD
Judge Horny point Of order is this that the gentle
man-earned powerful and eoquent-whose aid is d,sra
be and desired in every in which his heart is con
corred is 10 member Of this Convention and that the )rnq
of becoming SUCH which has been passed through AMI
am informed in such way a cannot dodb;-l do not
wish 20 use harsh word but wish say that msunder
stand NJ Of the facts Of that form has been communicated
10 the Committee 10 whom the gentleman credentials were
furnished wish for his sake or if he does not wish M 10
eayhu wish for the sake of the reputation Of this body
and or NY reputation, that an opportunity should be
off I'd, the gentleman to remove the impIa,ion against
him and therefore move that the credentials Of the gen
teroan be reoommtod 10 the Committee for investigation
desire and ihe Convention desires, that all he gelem ms
rights shall be preservel 10 him. Ny ground oI mixing
this motion is that luf vtiaes tn judgment OF any
court or BODY anu IT, therefore the facts were N 'un1
stood when the gentlemen credentials were accepted I'M
his admission into the Convention wouli pas Tor noihhz
The motion OF Judge li1ar was seconded.
Mr. Comstock Of New York. rise to point OF order
The Prcsident-Take yourseat. Much c'nu-ion.l -
Mr. Phillips with much difficulty obtained hearing lie
said Sir contend that under an appeal 10. order IL
j. entirely out Of order 10 make m)iDn ana TINT At
ever Judge lloar difficulty maybe iso be seei b. yod.
The Presdont--Ihe question Of the right of member
10 this floor is always IN % der.
Dr. Snodgrass here ate noted to speak bit was orlerel
10 take lis seat by the President.
Mr.. PhIIs-Iave right to speak upon the point ofor-
de- rails q
The Presiden-You have ght speak directly to that
Mr. Phillips understand that you have already decided
the point Of order If so, | appeal from that decision
Cries Of question rise to point OF order, x ana ~
desire to speak upon the subject of that cal con
tend that call to order AMI ,nJioh are ID Their nature
inconsistent call TO order is MOI dsbAeabie Inc Pfes
d,ut ,,rs make dcoi; ~ AMI there mus b. appeal
l
every motion is, ordna ~, aa'eabo. Tho two mng'
are therefore nconssteni. they cannot De MEL
Tie Convention sustained the P-esi o.
The Chair decided that iir. Phillips had the floor and
| upon which. he spoke as follows:
sir President $50 alc h.e under temporary basis OF or
rqu z On Nom. c-f4O lti4s have been nsp tel ile
nome OF 10 society which iagaes has been asked
and, not until some other basis OF organization than
general one is Il rertncn iJt any body to raise p9at
Of order When tbs Is done j. VIII be p per for NJ.
Hear To- do &C., ! came 40 this Convention v IN my
dcni'o which were laced III the hands # the Committee
And such has been he act oevey member ofthe ConFen
ton ST. ywhotrui AID laws an TO be tried You give
rules ly which your decisions AMI the ,-i,n D.
the Convention governed and at the expiration OF my
ten minutes ask thal my ere nal- ON te 'h " lrl
Neal Dow Total Abstinence Association OF tis Ciy, and
of one Of the Editor. OF me 1f7tase and son NAV Of
the late venorated Isaac r. Il0pY ore 10 Js f1uul
You decide that ana to b. tried when ID rules exist bg
which can defend myself, have the same paper that
any delegate has. No kind OF paper = prescribed
tiuls. But tell rule by which the Con
vention Is TO he guided in The mater, AMI | VIII
furnish just what is required bn hsl conienl at tae
time that iii unjust that you should has pr Jo
obgc furnish aceain set OF credentials when call
is issued for World Temperance Convention 70 becom
posed Of delegates Of Temperance Societies.
Ii Judge Hoar however. thinks that my credentials are
existence Of the Society but stand my rights this
Convention which precisely the same as the rights OF
any other member
Judge Hoar here interrupted the speaker and stated
that he had charged the gentleman with no such thing
forgery, but that the facts connected with the ere nals
we've misunde by the Committee on Credentials.
Mr. PHILLIPS lresumingl-Sr the gentleman used the
wod frqpd IN connection W IN my appearance in this Con
von0n Ii a hard word coming from him whom have
abored with in many cause in the Stateof Massachn-
and there now, should not need to reply to
any gentleman, however venerable who fit to charge
me with fraud ask, Mr. Pres dent what constitutes the
eligibility q -en, man To I'll in th. Convention Ii the
Society ho represents must be years old then lei be
slated, ii it must be Society sending the Delegate by
unanimous vote let .he rule be made known and will be
ready to produce tho proper credentials
Cries of question. mingled with h-so siamling &c,
wee next heard, after the subsistence OF which
member moved the previous question and the decision
oilho Chair was sus0incd Applause and Kisses
The question Of recOmmtt,ng the credentials OF Mr. Phil
lips and others affected by the motion Of Judge H,ar the
Committee Credentials carried by vote othe Con
venion
Mr. Phillips asked whether he was still member Of the
ConV oution or not
The President stated that his rights we're uspcn led unit.
the deliberations Of tie Committee were known
Tie member moved the. Il. cred nlls o, all the mem
bors from Massachusetts, be recomm tied the Committee
Crcdeuia. with instructions - report upon the right
Of the delegates 10 IN tte invention The motion
was submitted 10 the Convention and lost
DIR Snodgass moved that the minutes of the Convention
or Wednesday be amended that instead of its reading
The delegates having been admitted, &c, after the han
lad been cleared by the police during the latter part Of
the morning session that should read 4 part OF the
delegates having been admitted sc.
Al his point the excitement again renewed and
amid the general noise and racket pervadug the Hall
heard Mr. Williams of Alabama raise point of oder rea
tive 10 the admssiblity Of Dr. Snodgrass amendment
The President decided that il was admissible.
Nj. lOoh oi ecnusn arose to speak upon the ameni
men lie stated that the previous day he had been sub
iec,cd TO an indgnty.
The Presdent-Ihat question is not before the House
Mr. Booth am speaking 10 this amendment, much
confusion Kisses stamping, &c and wish II stne the
facts in relation to clearing of the hall and the admission
of delegates. state thar at the time when the minutes
state ihoi the delegates had been admitted that in point
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