New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-08-24

done former oerAeObs. cannot oen-sei nor ~
how mysef 20 believe that these statements which have
msde are In all respects correct because there o, ~
naming avay What is stated 70 be the fact III DC
r. that Russia has assumed the sovereignty ana as
n territory Of Modsvis she has committed an az
Or ssiou npon Turkey which is in entire contradiction 10
s circular issued voluntarily TO the cours OF harops -
well as az ainbt the tenor OF the manifesto Oh INC
general upon entering the principality $1,000
NJ Lords am not ing to discuss this mA,er' oecs1s
Il uus form the subject Of discussion on anotnsi sVehs
but 1 must say. my Lords cannot couot tns lns
gltic steps which have sdv-red must nave oesn
Bscause sha is this but the strongest possible prooses
Of war ear hear We wer. told wh-n ths hassau
I'm v.r, moved into these provinces was not 20 DC
war with Turkey If what have described Dc not ga,
then ny Loros say il is piracy near hesr' Ana ~
W. n q At position that 10 suffer war on sucn pre-
1. or arr stand by and an act OF piracy CON
Fitted Oh Turkey II am told against exis;Hs YEA
les Il the fleet to enter toe D.rdanel.s say li i
stare Of which ab She treaties as TAR As tus's ~no
Turkey are concerned No treaty can be binding o7Fen
TURKEY Russia after such state Of things Aod ThAt
is the state Of thin gs my Lords am told ny an aos Tes
in the other House that sent note-aye my LORDS We
did senc note also sent another note aud WINE sena
il notes Russian forces advancing into the fnn;
paiits snn takins possession OF Turkish t-frtOry bl
uy Lords fad that wat would gladly consiis' g"'i
has appeared The pspers OF to day Il Is ~
proposal Of the CON bined gers has oeen iaVoII'E r.
cstd Al st Pesr,tuTg But u! Lords, sc DO not kno"
what this pr possl ard before we e1p'ess Ii'a7d
satisfaction ought L" know wnsttis Hear bear
is clear ny birds, not the proposal alluded to IN
thu House Il last ge-k FOR t1e Messenger "-5
20 ltayt Vienna Sunday Monday, and the Ate 'le
oh inst renders utterly impossible" thst an cnc
from ST. Petersburg oy tDt JlD.l lnf
answer must have related previous proposal and
90 not kn'w wh-t that proposal vas blt "tsr ~ht.
has happened the Houses OF PAIL cannot .cHeP any
prOpO-i satisfactory which d0-s not 0rtne
sysoua on othe Danubsn Provincs Wh this 20 I'd IS
ny lords have Of differ. qaaiy It's stsi nay
ths Kus.iau 6o,ia has commenced oper .Ons at l-ld
and has OF the prncp part OF the river
that this hpnia consists of 200 oo4- II whlch ~ are
CUR boas Thus my lords not only al invasion OF hplda
and Waachis has occurred "nie we Are 's'hs o'
ara sci ding about, but We have an nva OF
Bulgaria and whole OF gre'trVer mo't important |"
ID. Of Europe taken POSSESSION 81 on oo'n
BY the Ru sian These t1ib ni'9r@y maze Us 10
sirou- e e1laDaioD have pstrd with ts " most pa
tence or the explanation Of Government
AZ, INV ling to say one word c.cu.t,o 70 sAs 'ns
uubc nino and yet imp0ss e 10 refrain from plhus
oue.top N the hope Of obtaining Gear ara direc' "a
sw.r from the Government can assure your lofdmD1
tier il o man o. earb who has sincere horror ana
abbrr. nee Of tnan osvr, unless that war n--'
sar, hear hear do not say iu,tfsoie but unless
cause srs+s hich shal create war pec-s ry o' ihe
honor the character t~-seiy OF tnis kogdih h7~f
A. IA. g. me time Do say sacrics honor AMI
character then the whole Of ersl interest. mus
suf irretrI.vaby IL therefore my lords take the
tt,v of shiup tbs statement befre put my Question:,
/ vh,h is-Whai information has been Received ~ her
Msi.syr ~ 10 the proceedings u the Is'i~n
authorities in the Dsnaban provinces Ot turkey am
pha step have been taken by her dtlesy uo'efnIsu'
il Consequence # any such proceedings -, IN
NOT b. In m, power 10 give my noble friend any ger
that materially differs from the ans yer gave hve ago
10 the question sgree eIr.ly nov a. o,d a.,
weak In everything which has fallen from my obe d-nd
wit r. sp Ct the consequences both 70 turkey and 70
Europe from permanent occuPa'on 1T anJth'ns r7s7m
bling permanent occupation, Of the PrnIpalitts oy
Rusia. But mus again inform my noble irlend ina We
have 10 nfTna of the character whiin ne mas now
brough 1t before the House Avn not certainly prepared
T. oe,y that msny of the acts he has alluded 70 may have
b. en- con ri,ted by the Russian Government may Ger
tapy sy bst have derived my information mostly from
q my Lobe FRI No. whch inf1rmtonis
nat Cumui tee Government has been formed Tor car
r,ine on the government of the Pnncp ,l'ies IN con
iuncto on with the Hospodars But We have NJ oiiici.
! information whatever the subject and am sde
! hat nObl
Lordshius will agree with me, that for the Govern
mert to act upon reports as they arrive oy telegraph
would be tn tight of rasbness Hear, hear \ III
vet IN no other way could We have proceeded - car
nv out the TO which my noble friend mas alluded
My noble fir Id said he believed the Danube has oeeu
cross,d and that Bulgaria has been acuNy invaded oy
Rus,an iors have no reason to believe that ths IS tho
case, hut the contrary because THIS very afternoon nave
rec, ed letter from 4latz in which slu-on Is ale
10 inch a circumstances Hear, hear But there are Ger
tany some illusions hieh shs net further advert At
present With respect to few boats that have been
brought there ard the btcose character OF tue Rnsaiaa
arrangements We likewise letters fr I'm Jtssy OF the
eth ana bucharest of the 26th and in them no mention IS
MADE of the ne form OF government having been est so
hsbed 1t certainly true that the pres OF the Russian
troops sluoed TO- and the peasants are described as De.
ig tub ced the hardship OF being drawn from theiT
agricultural labor do work OF certain KIND bat no me n
u, i, mao recruits being drawn from that place N-a
ii, is also made of considerable quantity OF provisions
bsvng been from Bessaaos into the Russian terrific
lie III. of the Russian troops IN The principaes
sure, therefore that your 'rdshP- VIII sgr,e WIN ne
In tbphiog tbst would not rave been justified 10 acting
on any rmsOn eved from the SONS ot
which Informs since my noble f-nd put his question
10 last week has already proved to be Incorrect Aud
can only ss, tuai my noble friend cannot exceed me-
fret his adherence of var sno H. NJ Ia ms snc7re de
sire fer peace hear. her -pr"vdei that pace DE An
h noate peace Hear But must ssy that At hs point
whch we have arrived III these negotiations. which see
reason hope tenoss 10 Satisfactory and pea etoe
soutior-I MT cay that exciting debates IN either hDGse
of the pres Ut moment are not hkeS 10 pro-
ducs solu hat peculiar character which would be
permsneI itself which wouo be beneficial TO nus coun
try which is lib ely the country could near
hssrl can Inform npbe friend that the negoc atoms
appear 10 have sum.d that char winch We must all
OF sire To set tbs. The question has not been left simply
s one between Russia sad the Porte II not been re-
c@yed Eug nd and France, united closely
The they my be in supporting tue Ports out has
suu.o Euiop. character th-.r b-sr l. has s-u n-d
such character that Is not only the Porte and RIs.
butt is Austria Prussia, France and Eng and 4cunS to
pow.r ana those territorial limits established by previous
ires.s This say is State Of thing that mus be sa'
ysisctoy because likely 10 lead TO more perna neut
conclusion think your lUrdships wl not pres
TO ent into more details with respect 20 the neg All
now betw NieDus snd 81 P-srsburgh turt
than this that nothing heel done in Venns without the
consent Of Eng and and France ana that Ens snd
France will nothing which does the
dep., suc mo. p-ndence OF Turkey hear hear
The Esrl Of MsIn. sburS-My lords u - impossible,
vhent~o such powers Eogsnd AID Francs perfectly
sgree 'his Of scton 10 be sve that discussion
ppon IN. tsions and proceedings should Disclose
ANYTHING ditshe 10 either poser The NOBLE -af
referred TO the anxiety of ths country the subct aud
has refrain hroug houi from saying word VIII might
tend delay ill., or in the r-mntrs manner g.
with the negotiations now carried on bat my ifds
think n ere lat 81 which this prudsut nduc
should be stsyed Parliament beisve 10 Dr. prorogued
In about ten GAYS Ii Pa ment IS 10 b. prOrogl-d Ia
or fourteen days and il the Puolc convinced
the brink Of great var that nothing is 10 De knoTn
what has passed III gUtaious between tns country
and Russia that, in fast, all Information has bs.n
obtain, from the French Cabinet that they have bean