The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-03-10

appropriation of $780, 600. and upoa my simple motion 10
increase II TO 100000. the amendment was received and
adopted aud linus amended. the bill was passed
/ Mr. BUTLER. concur entirely IN The decision OF
the Chair. and for the reasons given. Now under
stand the rule to be founded upon this ground that moth
ing IN the form OF amendment proposing an additional
appropriation 10 an appropriation bill shall here
which has not the sanction oil the judgment OF some
standing committee. Now sir, to make The decision OF
Char palpabe suppose that upon any amendment oHer.
ed by standing committee making an appropriation OF
100000 Tor any national object should rise and oer
an amendment for an appropriation OF private nature
entirely will be at once that the Two propositions
would be ineongruous, aud mol compatible WIN each
other.
Mr. WALKER. The rule expressly excludes that
Mr.. BUTLER. am only using that as an analogy,
because the senator from Wisconsin has introduced what
IS not sermane TO the bill II foreign 10 the bill and
1t offered not TO carry out the objects OF the honorable
senator from Ohio but introduce the homestead bill
upoa proposition for railroad from the Mississippi TO
the Pacific.
| NJ WALKER WAL, II is not the homestead bill.
MI. bU ILER II Is the principle OF the homestead
bill TO ali intents and purposes You are inirodc cing 10
some extent, the elements of the homestead bill, and
therefore The amendment looks TO different object, and
| also increases the amount.
/ Mr.. BRIGHT. admit that embarrassment might
result from the supposed put by the honorable
tor from Wisconsin, but il il should be So il is the fault
OF the 30h rule, and not attributable the decision of the
Char. As the 30th rule now reads, it is manifest that
no member OF this body introduce general APP
preparation bill an amendment unless il comes within
the provision OF that ruleuness it be estimated for by
Inc head OF some department. unless be 10 carry
existing law, or unless 1t be moved by order OF
standing committee Now the honorable senator from
| OHIO moves an amendment from standing committee
The Chair decides that to be IN order The senator from
Wisconsin moves amendment TO the amendment
That motion would be in order were it not Tor the 3O,h
rule; but In order TO bring his amendment to the amend
men within the rule, il must come from standing
mttee. II It did from standing committee, sup
pose The Chair would entertain il, but does not,
clearly 1t cannot be entertained, until the 30h rule be
slIlken out
Mr.. WALKER. will propose TO fill The blank which
is alleged TO be additional appropriation propose to
move 10 fill the blank with the amount which is in the
| amendment of the senator from Ohio
| The PRESIDING OFFICER. The decision made by
the Chair has been rather misunderstood. The Char
has not decided that when the amendment comes proper
ly before The Senate, in this by the direction OF
standing committee proposing additional appropriation
bill, that is not IN the power OF any member 10 TO
increase, or 10 diminish or strike Out. That is clearly i'll
order but the Chair has decided this and he adheres to
his decisions that il an additional appropriation be moved
by the direction OF standing committee, it is not in the
power of member OF the Senate, on his own motion
without such direction, to move amendment which
contains an additional appropriation for the obvious
son that II that be done the 30th rule rescnded
Forexample, member Of the Senate an amendment
10 genera appropriation bill which amendment proposes
no appropriation Then, according 10 the proposition now
| advanced member OF the Senate can move to amend
that amendment by making appropriations and then
you would have the defiance of the rule of ad
duonal appropriation moved without the direction OF any
standing committee. One member moves amendment
which is IN order because II proposes appropriation,
and then another member moves to amend that amend
ment by making an appropriation.
Now is perfectly obvious, that be done, that the
rule of the Senate is abolished but if what proposed
here can be DONE then undoubtedly that also be done
Here is an amendment offered under the direction of
standing committees and here IS member who moves
an amendment TO that amendment proposing additional
appropriation The Chair therefore considers it simply
as question whether the 30h rule OF the Senate is
force or not 1t is in force, il is the Judgment OF the
Chair that the amendment of the from Wscon-
sin not in order and if il is not in force every amend
men proposing an additional appropriation is in order
he hou and
ed. - 49, 'A'0'''' 80 ''''N '"'' '''' 'e"'A"'
| The yeas and nays were ordered
| Mr.. GWlN. | do not intend to dispute the decision
OF The Chair at all. 1t is right Bat in Ievolu.
honary times. We are turning round and round here
every day, in regard TO these important measures and
am exceedingly ANXIOUS to have some chance 10 vote
for any bill IN the shape OF Pacific railroad bill, shall
be compelled TO vote against sustaining the decision of
the Chair; no, that have examined this amendment, but
with the hope that we may get IN some amendment look
ing towards the accomplishment oil the object.
The question being taken by and nays, resulted
yeas 40, nays 5-as iollowsE
YEAs-Messrs. Adams, Achson, Bradbury, Briqhr,
Brodhead Brooke, Butler, Cass, Charlton, Chase. Clarke
Cooper, Davis. Dawson pesaussore Dodge Of Wisconsin
Dodge Of Iowa, Douglas Downs, Fzgstrick, Foot Geyer
Hale. Houston, Hunter Jones of Tennessee, Mallory.
Mangum, Mason. Miller, Morton, Phelps. Rusk, Shields
Smtil, spruanee, SUMNER Toucey, Underwood and We'll
NAYs-Messrs Borland. Gwin, Seward, Wade. and
Walkers.
So the decision Of the Chair was sustained
! MIR. WALKER. took appeal from the decision OF
the Chair because desired that the Senate should fix the
matter a precedent | now propose my amendment
in different shape now propose TO strike out all OF
the amendment OF the senator IRON Ohio. except the
words making the appropriation, and TO insert my amend
men excepting the third section which provides APP
preparation My amendment will make the appropra-
ton proposed by the amendment OF the senator from Ohio
separate secon TO take the place OF the third section
! II 1t prevails, the amendment will read:
That with view the ultimate construction Of a rail-
road from some suitable point west Of the Missisp
suitable point the OF the Pacific ocean,
the line of California within the jurisdiction OF the
United States there shall be detailed from the corps
shall be TO proceed as soon pctcabe to select survey
locate aud mark the proper and eligible ground,
than three hundred feet wide said rail.
road, sud to make and report the Secretary of War
Of such survey and LOCATION together with approx
estimate OF the OF construction Of such railroad
! SIC. =. Ind be Il further enacted That as soou as
practicable alter said route shalt have been surveyed and
located there shall be surveyed as the other lands Of the
United States have been heretofore surveyed six
ships wide either side Of said route through the whole
Of the public lands along route the even
bered sections of the lands be surveyed except
tons thirr and sixteen, shall be granted and patented
by the United States, free OF quantities not exceed
ing hundred and sixty acres person who shall
settle upon, occupy, aud cultivate the for
Proudd, That such shall be tho head fami-
y single, Of the age Of tweny-one years upwards
citizen OF the United States having declared his
intention become such according the
laws OF the United Stsss aud the odd numbered
tons OF said lands shall sacredy held and disposed
for the ultimate construction OF said railroad and the fur.
nishing and equipment OF the
Sac Ind be u further enacted, That the Of $780,
ooo much thereof may be necessary be- and the
is hereby appropriated out OF money in the
not otherwise appropriated TO detay the expense Of
such exploration and survey.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is upon
the amendment of the from Wisconsin to The
amendment OF the senator from Ohio.
j Mr. ADAMS Do ! understand that that amendment
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