The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-03-26

Mr.. BRoDHEAD. would like TO inquire Of my friend
from California whether there has NOT been proposition
submitted TO Congress TO carry this mail for the receipts
from postagosf
MIR. GWiN. No, that ever heard Of Proposals have
been made by different parties Mr. THOMPSON and Mr.
Moore For the las, two aud half years contest has
been going on between those gentleman and neither has
been able 70 get bill through Congress This amendment
proposes TO advertise for bids and TO give the carving
The mail the lowest bidder lust as Won would H. mail
from here 10 New Orleans
Mr. BRoDHEAD What is the proposals OF Thomp-
Mr.. GWlN. One proposes 10 carry the mail for the
hostages with the addition OF certain quantity OF land and
part OF the receipts from goods carried in the
steamers of the line The Other asks The loan of the credit
of the government to enable him 10 build his ships An
hat have to say TO the senator from Tennessee mr.
jones Is ha we need tins ine. and here is proposition
TO let out 10 the lowest bidder There no name con-
ntced with IT, but II Is precisely similar he law which
passed at tho last for the mail line from Vera
Cruz TO Now Orleans. hope the amendment will be
adopted.
Mr. BRoDHEAD. This amendment proposes 10 ap
PfoPale threo mions OF dollars for this purpose. Now
wish 70 know what wi be the annual receipts from post
age on this line! has there been any estimate of them
My friend from California says that he has examined the
subject should like TO know what the estimate of the
Post Office Department as to the probable receipts from
postage
Mr. GWlN. did not go into an examination as to
'he receipts from Posages look upon this as line of
so mucn importance commercially well for the esab
ishment OF postal arrangements with the Chinese empire
tnat did not 90 into of the postage receipts
examined into il in lis commercial and national aspects
in the remarks which have submitted to the Senate.
All have to say In regar the Of the honora
BILE senator az TO other propositions that they OBJ
Jeconabe, because individual connected with
them There Is nothing of that kind in this amendment
WI not delao the Senate, but trust shall have VOTE
Mr. BRIGHT. If supposed there the remolest
probability that this amendment would be adopted,
should submit few remarks upon the subject but is
will not do so. l look upon the proposition 8 another
effort aslen upon the public treasury another great
line TO which opposed. The Post Office Department
fhp fhrnu
about three millions of dollars If this be added suppose
shall add another half iion. But, as stated did
not rise to discuss the question know that the time Of
the Senate precious be consumed in that way
merely wish TO ask for the yeas and nays on the amend
mcnt
The yeas and nays ordered,
Mr.. GWIN. In answer to what the senator from Ind
(Mr. BRIGHr,) has said will observe that ndepcnd
emily Of these steam lines the Post Office Department has
ceased to be sefsustaning institution. He has himself
as member of the Finance Committee agreed to section
this very bill providing for deficit fmoe than 81 500 000
estimated for Of reduced postages He talks OF
this fastening upon the treasury another great line
Why, sir what has he, and those living in the section Of
country which he represents, been dong but fastening
great steam line tho country from Louisville to New Or
leans! Who has been more anxious than the gentlemen
from that section Of the Union TO have that great line
tor daily mail facilities! do not intend to pursue this
matter. i hope shall have a
Mr.. BoRLAND. l wish 10 know il understood the
from California distinctly when he spoke Of great
steam line between Louisville and New Orleans'
Mr.. GWlN. did refer to that.
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name of great steam line given to that 1t what we have
throughout the country simply mail line on the Ohio and
Mississippi rivers.
Mr.. GWIN. By steamboat
MIR. BORLAND. great steam line There il no ea-
there for requisite for purposes And
what the estimate for daily mail between Louisville,
ST. LOUIS, and New Orleansi The highest estimate
per year. What does the propose for hs
ne and What do pay for the Collins ne and for all The
steam ocean mails Why taking the amount of service TO
be rendered in he line between Louisville, ST. Louis, and
thousand
the highest estimate $3.50 0UO) made for that mail
This mail line fifteen hundred mice in length upon the
most important thoroughafe this Union hope that II
wit not be put to account when We have had until
and at the time have mail upon rivers
bu, Deepen upon the uncertainties Of freghing
business. We have got mail line there now, and shall
not have unit, NJ XII October.
Mr.. BRIGHT. Not 10 appear inconsistent it is proper
should say did for the appropriation the last
Congress- the establishment Of mail service between Lou
sve and New Orleans TO be carried in steamboats, pro-
vd.d the Postmaster General could make contract fair
terms. apprehend that legitimate and proper service
and Of very different character from that contemplated by
the amendment of the senator from California That amend
men conemplaes mail service outside Of the United States
where there mails to be carried least compare
lively few and no prob! likely to result from the
vice.
Mr.. CASS. desire merely to say that am myself ia
vorabe the object of The amendment Of the from
California but he lie mistaken in supposing that this is like
the Law which passed for the establishment of line from
Vera Cruz to New Orleans If he will make this like that,
4 will vote for IT,
Mr.. GWIN. think il is in the same words
Mr.. CASS. The gentleman is entirely mistaken. This
proposition for war steamers which requires ex
pense totally unnecessary. Ii is which has been
fully discussed, and shall go it. II is pro-
vision totally unnecessary and hope will be stricken
Mr.. GWIN intended no, provide for steamers,
and do think the amendment does provide for them.
copied the law ss il stands
Mr. CASS. Is the honorable senator sure about that
facli
Mr.. GWIN Yes sir.
Mr. CASS. As heard the amendment read thought
provided for steamers. should like to hear It read
again, or at least part Of IT,
The Secretary read the part of the amendment referred
IN these words:
In vessels OF less than thousand tons.
the best form construction, adapted to purposes"
Mr.. GWlN did not intend leave those words in the
amendment | move TO strike out the words adapted to
purposes
The motion agreed TO.
Mr.. CASS. One other point. The Vera Cruz steamers
limited to eight hun ired tons. Now, am willing to
60 beyond that in ths but that bur-
den OF two thoussnd tons is unnecessary.
Mr.. GWlN Say fifteen hundred. The distance is six
thousand miles.
Mr.. CASS am willing TO vote for the proposition with
the provision for steamers. and providing that they
shall exceed fifteen hundred burden with an open
contract for all tho world. think then it will be very
proper measure.
Mr.. HAMLN | think that for the service TO be per-
formed by these vessels thousand tons burden will be
small enough, and should not for smaller vessel
| shall for
Mr.. MASON, 1t has been often my fortune here to
oppose Of this character generally without sue
that feel reluctance 10 saying worI upon
subject But IT is Appropriation from the treasury
TO create new channel of which does
exist IL IL to invite commerce directly from Shanghai
San Francisco, TO by that route increase IT, # you
please but to create channel by the Of thi.
steam line which steam line be there the expense
far arrv,nv The