The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-04-24

quarraed some time with foreign princes II was NOT for
the good Of Italy but for their ambition and power The
the beginning Of the Italian movements that Plus TX.
posssssed Jssuiticsl politicthat he neither or
strong and firm WILL sincere-that should not
nee too much in his promises professions Of political
faith (sensation) Thus, my friends, bound to
der Ill when he entered into the Lombard League TO
pei the oeroaransit not for redeeming Italy, but
Pope Of his temporal domnion Gulius H. who was more
politician soldier and intrguer than worthy Vicar
Csmbsy to ruin ~ anH NO v. Inc
to you conversation which took place between me and
Plus TX pIeviou: to the war Of Lombardy was
my preaching in Italy by the influence Il friends
'.holy Father" sald dali Italy calls you her So
"Gsvazzi, answered the Pope, do not speak to me
of Italy, but only Of the Roman States" Great sen
But holy Father, the Italians admire your reform.
and you must obtain the same for ALL"
"Gavazz, replied Plus *, "beware, in your preach.
Before left for Lombardy went to the Pontn once
to obtain his blessing and he inquired from
ITO Bologna, Holy Father"
"And thence" added the Pope where shah you goi''
ITO Ferrara and from this city shall cross this river
.'Yos shall not" vehementy replied Plus k
holiness the state Of Polinese which was taken away
from the domnons Of the Papal See 1t the Congress- Of
The Pope appeared more easy, but ordered not to
say nor do anything in the name Of Italy challenge
Plus TX. to deny my assertion shall send him my de-
traitor Of Italy, that at the time Of your popularity
you were not opposed to the emancipation Of father
for usa shall answer Tomm.soo, whom RESPECT for
his patriotic principles who says that they saved Rome
from the they bishops that epoch
and not popes Have they not encouraged Austrians
agans the suia saxons-but who created these little
yrantsY The Popes In order to oppose the
Of the Emperor In word Pope as kings and bishops
have always been yrants The oppression the
vsspers. and although Christian cannot approve
such butchery yet that people had no other to
the Sicaus and those brave islanders were Obliged
to submit themselves once to the tyrannical yoke
The conspracies for the welfare Of people must be made
once not by poets or women, or preparing them long
before the time of action, to give time to the
my to discover your plots but I thank God that
are no more in the Of conspracies bur act
openly, without disguise and without demagosnes. In
the wars Of Genoa against Pisa we always find the mis-
ourishng republic was sold as an appansge to bastard
Of Pope the Of the Vicar of (aughter)-
and sftsrwards to foreign prince The Pope would not
the greatest temple of God Who to defend his dear Flo
renee, bad left Rome and his works. The Popes con-
till the monk Pao Sarp told the Venetian senators not
to for the thunders Of the church. Sayonaroh
to re establish in Rome the republic was burned Sy orsr
Of an English iope Cola de Renz the last Of the Tr
bunes was betrayed Vicar of Christ and BY order Of
the representative of God earth Nicolas ", Porcar
the Italian patriot straneed Such the history Of
popery in Italy Will you continue with that Internal
instutonp In this give way to science, genius
commerce, industry, discoveries, progress. and liberty
ns aTe os0n h ann
ton With Pope and popery you will have slavery,
ignorance superstition. brutal submission, aud win
always be behind the age. (Appause) My friends,
be good Christians without being papsts and eur
duty is destroy this tyranni"a institution. Tonmasse
says that We should give the Pope small town in which
to exercise his spiritual power. When he shall have the
small city he win work for obtaining large and SO
forth | am for giving nothing to the Pope-(bravo)-
nations taste, in their turn how sweet it to have
Pope for king and bishop. No. thousand times no I
applause Our brethren have committed many faults.
In 1921, 1881, and 1S4s, ttey remained satisfied with
concessions, constitutions, and promises but now,
thank foreign and pspal despots feel that want
oil Rome must be the capital Of Italy-her monuments,
history and sacrifices make her worthy to be the seat
national government. Oh how glorious will be
Rome without Popes. (Applause).