Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1853-04-05

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Mr. SmErFEY explained how Tie pFoposi'o' "u' s'@
My SrovALL hoped The matter would stop just here. ne
proposition 10 appoint committee OF enh'eienIG. -
- IRE 10 The resolution and 20 with the pubic ousi
n ,E-ty There has been SO much said abGu, the sub
sr;tu, winch had The honor u oier and The ctcu1 "h
Ter when i. presented and Withdrawn, that ur'ii
- iu to truth AMI justice 10 yset as we'll as Tie par! VIZ:
yj i, j. nv piidc act 10 make statement OF idcis iA
10 The history vi that part CT the Sealcs pIoceeu
ngs. ;,, ! s,,,,d .x,,,ss,, ,I,,I nv
hc yeas nal IN e,barass the friends vi the original pro-
si,i,n b, that supposed their proposition would DC
open amendment, before the vote "ou'o DC '"hen Oh NY
substitute. But when informed oy .c e. GU, % ~
the Chair ilr SHErrEy) that such would not DC Tue case
immediately Withdrew my substitute, Tor me purpose as
stated, Of giving the friends oi The osiha m
lie opportunity of putting their ilvofle scne"e' " w
.hIpc which best suited themselves. =.
lhrY did So and when my Substitute came uf' hha"S
il uvt III the Precise form in which had suppo7eu
mad nat H. asked the liberty modifying 1t TO meet
nv own views. 1t denied me, and the pre-
vinr. question, moved by Wing, sustained by me en-
ire WIG vote Of the Senate, together with a few mem
hrs Of The Democratic party, against the poiestalohs
and ancas of the Democratic members OF tic Scnnte, ana
was us denied the privilege of relieving the substitute
ls H. which, III all prooaDty, iost me lhe support
of those members for my proposi'ion.
STATE these ,c- in order that the democratic party OF
I'm. counrry NAV know the precise history OF this whole
matter and for the purpose u correcting me Impression
when nigt be made IS remarks os Mshloes On e oppo
side they have exercised stcat ueu' "
niiv in this body while The majority ~ tue olef Drhch oi
ms enyra Assembly have pursued dlileTth course cfc.
But inc pen cnan from Augusta, (lr SHEFfEY) has Al
tempted make The Impression int we were no.
y Inc fylu- from amending unG Introducing Inc
substitute 10 II eg proposition before the vote was taken
proposition OF tue gentleman from LOUISE (hf AN
gLER bu has tai gentleman iogoitcn that We were mel at
By call Tor the previous question, ana mat me
gentleman from Richmond county, th BkAxr"H Obtain
rt The floor and demanded The previous question The
,un nj the proposition vi the gentleman from Louisa
M AMBLERj and thus cut oil all amendments. Such Is
The history u his Whole proceeding and these The ccnm
stances under which 2en;en are claiming Tic exercise "i
.,eit uIgnaniHity Now, have no com nt ~ make q!
any iar and huuuratc means By which the Wings OF The
Srna!. can :ceaI hi. Democratic appO"nncnt bill Its
legitimate aud proper for lhe party do they
r.il do l. hunuraby. Neither Go cal! III question the mo-
lives any gentleman this floor, Tor course hc may
see proper uke. | do not question IN Others what do
permit others 10 question In me will only say Ia my
Democratic friends VINO are acting win the Wings ~ hI@
mlt,rr (ani want the attention OF my friend from Gl1uceS-
Ter who says his object is 10 carry out Democratic met.
surcs that they pursuing very singular course I" 81
irct Their nec when they conpcretin. Will, The Wing
purity. voting solu pialtGI against ttrgr ana
iory o The great Democratic party Of STATE. Who
yer knew Wing party be found voting ~ solid pa-
llny for ANY Democratic casuc Gentincn may fancy
I, hcnl-t that they carrying out Democratic policy
uu ncn them such has ne" been my expert
encc and unless greatly mistaken, they will hnl' per.
maps late that they Gase been in The wrong
pew" Will not pass Iud.mer; on ile'r action leave
that Tor Tho great Democratic party OF The Stac not DOUBT
inu bat voice wi! shortly come up from Tue utcp Do
If party, cnplIa'lcaiy expressive Of the oPnonS o.
The peopl on their course ~ that am willing they shall
stand Of tall
Mr. SuAcxELroRp said \ cannot agree with the Senator
from Rockn.nar OR. DGSgALEl and thu Senator from
Marshall (Mr MAsTiS, IN the views winch tncy have ca
us-ri ~ this SUBJECT The Senator fruE! larshaA says
that the House plan The the appointment OF the ConeS
sion. democratic plan-ac democratic pan-
md creates the inpcaiion the plan adopted ny The
Senate Is not democratic. Nav, si, Should Ike ~ Know,
and challenge from Marshall 10 SHOW ny what
es the scheme advocates is 10 be ndutsed the demo.
era ~ planwha the c,rmarks oi dcnicfacy which
bears aoouti Wha,are The Democratic principles 1t con
a!ns as contrds,ingusei from the plan OF the Senate
Sir ray that the Senate scheme Is more "el'c'a-
lie than that Of the House. because II conforms more
,ca,ly 10 the requirements of the Constitution, ana IS
nor. past and equal. The principles oil equality ana JUS
ice, take 10 be characteristics 81 Uuc Dchoc'ae!i
ind fidelity the Constitution | cannot suppose :
% be anti democratic What is il then that makes the ,
oasc srilcilc d.mocrc and the Senate scheme lie re-
verse! Why sir, The Senator from u
the plan proposed ty caucus OIL the peiocratc parry
nat Caucus? There never was, so lar as Know"
full Attendance OF the Democratic party Inc party was
very muCh divided, ana many meetings were hc'u uh
i:;aIlv The number vino attended dwnded into shai mi
lory ,riy could only be eked ouI by many pfo1
cs one gentleman holding, rs am inlor'hed "e!Vc or
i.ie,n in his hands Now sir that plan was proposed I"
Inc House Of Delegates. And was II adopted! NJ" SIR ,
Il was changed, ~ snit The views oil nose Interested
n the arrangement al 0i HE DISTRICTS ny striking
more a. tic counties ana inserting o'ns,s
md ils ,rasosin. hcn Ari IN that FORM wa" adopt,
ted py hc House ana 10 the senate Here, SIT,
.oui Ike - inquire by what authority 'his chnH2t wa
made! Wa. Ey tho authority oi the chIcuS C"rtaihi!
to,! Sir il was made by those who now insist On me
mandatory aui controlling authority Of caucus Nhi d!d
v make the changed Oaly BECAUSE Tor soiIic reason or
,rler they satisfied with the caucus plan lhcy
changed please themselves; and should IKE 10 Ao"
v ,y, rule il is that other gcntlcmun who may not be sat
s.i with The caucus pau have not me sam: right 10
au. il; 10 SAT- views! WHAT night nave these gen.
-m.u TO change the plan Ia SUI! themselves ana
men In saw In others ven shall take his plan WE have
been pleased fashion OIL ot caucus and Giier t caucus
Even here sir upon this floor, The Senator rom MARSHALL
affecting 10 support the caucus pan makes proposition
both from lie lnn of The House ard from mai u me
caucus And the from Rockingham complains 'a'
rv me pr,yious question: he prevented iron moving
,.t.,-I la
yed 10 nv tie bill upon the table 10 enable hi! 10 intro
luce his anne ailments. Sir, deny that the House plan
y h, .; The caucts deny that the Amendment olier-
"a Dy the from Marshall presented tue caucus pan.
Sir pu the Scnsor from Rockingham IN TINS dilemma
The proposition Of The Senator rom Ma'sa c'hta'ns =
IA. CAUCUS plan, IL dOCs not ii II Goes ucn INC c''a
nr iru, Rockiuahain upon his principles is bound to
vote for il without amendment II II dues no' u'e" every
,.,t,,nan j. trr. Il, vote nat he peascs MR.
siGu my ,cioG upon this subject has been ls; hhsh
,- nil came rom the House, was not satisfied with IL
AMI concluded iU iias II was sont 10 Us 10 save :
md n nyud inc confusion which expected w1!! arise,
md winch has from lis rejection by the Sen"n &c
.!inply sir voted, believe against oil the amendments
,o.i against the motion ~ STRIFE out me aransc,eht
j, c.ia;ics in t!c blu, Nte House PAM p'' M M, :.
,,,;,,,n prr,ul.. and The bill wac left blank The .
senator from Louisa (Mf. AHBLER then moved 10 M me
4 INK viii, hc plan which the Senate fnay adopted ana
.hich Is denounced as anti Dcuec!atic. II
sir undertake 10 say that r plan proposeiby the Sen.
nor from LOUISA concoctcd by al good Democrats az
ne Senator Rockingham, or any other gen,ic''th Oh
his floor II prepared ~ majority "i tis D'i'ci'' $
> ,nrnn Of ic cUrnittcc Congressional Apprr'i"n- /,
and met believe with objection from Western +
men, opposed only by Eastern geAs."intn
mere were many Individual interests i were supposed 20
- connected win public welfare which affected lr
,rrnu,.n Districts and hence, sif, the question
90. ,r,c COMPLICATED than il otherwise would have been
an easy one any Clrcun stances. But TINS Plan
mana ted .Om Democratic source, anG was prepared ana
,-,.r hv some tile very democrats VINO are no" de-
,,,rin, il Sir lar Democratic authority m Ike
sub il i. ei6phn ideally democratic schCm; ard csscn-
-,,rh BECAUSE, opinion II IS As last and as
,., sclcrn BE- adopted IL was such scheme as
M, % conducted and coming from sucha source tia, was
unused and voted inr il. The Houses are IN con-
\ - and although think the House OF Delegates has rush
"a an extreme resolution by voting 10 adhere To their view
# The .,alact and have not treated The Senate win custO
mary cuugtesy spirit al ConCialn almost too no
,,,I shall vote Tor committee OF conference. I
Nr AHBtER sad-That il was duty 10 those viii! whom G
n acted u we'll himself thus publicly 10 say mat Inc
,r,rosion he had pircd NOT, ~ Il had been
,uilasIy i;IpfcI ey called his plan, bu that Il "as
ne rrsut conference and as he hud thought agr.cmrnt
vrn Democrats appointed tor that purpose; thai ~ r'-
n" II H. had part in the position OF single c"IGlE
and it could by possibility affect him personally IN any
yav except Placing oi he Counties he represented
ch ln) position he haI anxousy cndcdvOrcd Ia Tree
mr. from. Te! endorsed a II was by Democratic ac-
ion when he found the House bill Objectionable he \
Demuca truly the WISH