The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-03-16

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ble is free from all suspicion OF corruption as he
1t must S be mighty small district indeed.
Mr. NomE-It Is the largest in the State having
l hundred thousand Inhabitants.
1 Mr. BEsAN-1herc must be unusual number OF
churches tLsre then. Were the county Of Washington
the source OF such corruption Mr. would not dare
Seore this body and ask to have the matter referred
bin He would ish II 10 go to thosc who could not BE-
supposed TO he interested This investigation should 20
before otbers than the Representatives Of the city
TN MI hkspn whig) Of Livingston, thought otherwise.
appropriate persons up the consideration of this
memorial coming from their constituents. II pro
responsibility with those members and thsr
II the action of the members here not satisfactory to
their constituency the same be remeaed the next
elecuon members here not acquainted with the affairs
of New York cannot Judge wisely in regard to them
& Mr. HolIEY denied any intention to insult the New
language will be apmstakeabe-it win be uttered In
ano questionable shape" He able 30 do that and
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Mr.. KENNEDY said if the people of New York who no
Lang about this Legislature had discharged their duty
home, there would be need Of their application here
Let them 90 back and through their elections which
are the proper tribunals for their appeal correct the
evils OF which they complain.
Mr. FORSYTH (dem of Albany insisted that the Iegis-
iatufe was the place to correct the municipal evils of
New York can be e0ectually done here and where
else. For one he deter to discharge his whole
amsy IN this aitle%pt T to purify the gross corrupons
| Mr.. MILLER (dem of New York. had no particular
choice m as to tho committee which the House should
| sidered shorld either proposal prevail
Mr. Woop (whie) OF Onondara ,nid select comn,ittoo
five before whom a imilar proposal had been raced
composed of three members from the city Of New
| York and only two ohers-one from Albany and one
from Buffalo These latter represent large cities, and
| may be supposed to understand city affairs.
| Mr. J. RosE thought 1t apparent that this subject
should be acted by those representing the people
pointed when most OF the city delegation absent
and without consultation with them Thethrteen other
members and their constituents equally interested
in this matter and it ought not TO be settled without
consultation with them. MIR. r. said the public press
he did NOT ehsrpe nsa
had done this with intentional wrong but they not
practical men-thcy had no actu.l knowledge Of what
efficient practical reform and not that which is merely
theoretical and useless.
Mr. LOOMS (dem. of Herkimer, regarded the subject
which had been brought before the House
moment lie was opposed to referring all subjects affect
where locality is to be affected ana upon which the
people concerned all agreed it is proper let the
local representatives arrange the matter to meet their
views But here is question in dispute The appeal is
deserving attenton-it from the city of
New York and l. addressed to the entire legislature and
| the whole House act uron it.
Mr. D. B. TAYLOR entirely ccncurred with the views OF
Mr. NomE wished the House to remember that the first
petition for city reform had been by him. and
referred to tho New York delegation After mature
reflection and much labor that comttee had perfected
bill incorporating the reforms which solicited and
reject the bill which they have introduced This was
going backward aud destroying all that has yet been
done towards securing reform.
Mr.. GALES resolution waS then lost lv AZ to 49,
Mr. WooD sed the reference to the Select Committee
of Eve. previously appointed
| Mr. KENNEDY moved 20 amend by adding to the com.
mittec cn of the New York delegation Lost p to So
! Mr. WOODS motion was then carried BY so TO A.
| Recess TO o'clock
/ AFTERNOON SESSION
NEw yoRE REFORM
| Mr. B,gRorGIrs find dem Of Orleans moved recon
sdeation of the vote rejecting The motion of Mr. Gale
| Carried As to 81 Mr. g. said the people or New York
in eeclipg representatives here had entrusted their in
theee representatives and it is m ungra ou
thing to take from them the confederation Of this matter
yecng their constituents when thew do not ask to b,
Mr.. SHAW, (dem of n. Y had not entered into these
discussions sofar petition fer amendment of tho
char;er OF New York had been given in charge Of Mr. r.
Smith, ho, on presenting il moved its reference
joct il presented by another member on whose
motion it is referred to the New York delegation.
Among the New York members controversy arose
charge Both committees win 20 on with their inuui
ries one OF them the select committee) win instantly
| do So lie had proposed that this be done and when
the select committee should report he would the
reference OF IN II 10 the New York delegation The in
tercsts affected by en- amendment OF The charter Of New
York, arc OF the utmost magnitude 1t was not to be
entered upon Lightly. They to legislate for hslf
million OF reope,for hundreds OF millions o dollars
The subject mast be one Of mature and anxious consde
Jaton The delegation bringing in the last memorial
had declined 70 urge its recommendation to either of ae
ceni,etns committees but lett that matter entirely to
ne House, lnt each of tha committees act upon the
subject before them The bill brought forward he would
ielect whoy1it was not what was wanted me better
way for this House wond be not TO reconsider any vote
but TO let both ctsnmittees 80 on
Nj :! ROSE saw good reasons why two committees
should not act upon the same question The plan OF hs
select committed IN being relorted TO the House aud
then referred 10 The New ork deisgation was taking
ci'cuous neihod OF legislation The New York delcga
'ien 10 Recommend thc strongest methods
| OF pieventh misuse oi u pubic i9na.
mr WOOD opposed tne reference 70 tne New iork dele
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% w ~ M ~ ,ne rev ofh ae,ega9n on
the NATE tbe heinz acy Mo eueuco 20 os ,b Co.
ron aonnc;l ibe Nev Yo,i Iacrhers ore desirnns Of
taking n tb;s matte and bv yenorng hill 10 nrosa
tbe faisy Of sueh oniraueons asporsions uuon them
Mr. Looms Was willing TO 90 FOR rcference to the dele
| cation from New York
Mr. ID II T,yroP-Iherc arc already four bills in the
pocLets Of fop, different members 10 amend the charter