The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-01-22


then the select committee could be guided by the votes OF
the Senate, and take tomorrow 10 reflect upon H. while
this ball in relation 10 the debt OF Texas was being con-
sdered
MIR CASS Mr. President hope that my honorable
friend from California mt GwINl Will aceede 10 the
proposition 10 allow his bill 10 go before committee
suggested 10 him some days ago that II would De mpos-
sble for body composed OF sxlytwo men, IN open
sion, 10 arrange and decide upon the details OF such
bill II is very difficult 10 understand the bearings OF
section upon another unless attention is be-
slowed upon il than generally give here IN the cham
be Our experience upon Il thus lar, every day shows,
The mpraccabliity OF our getting along IN this way My
honorable friend from Illinois Mr. SHIELDs1 suggests that
when we have proceeded far enough ascertain all OF
the principal iaciso wit: the course OF The road. the
points Of lis termination and how II shall be donewe
Mr. SHIELDS MIR. President, perhaps was not dis
tncy understood by the senator | said that when The
Senate determined that shall have one read and
only 10 the Pacific ocean, aud determined to leave the
terminus OF that think the Senate will, open be
hereafter designated by the President OF the United
States and also another point whether that shall be
confined 10 the Territories. shall have connexion with
the States-when these three points shall have been de-
iernned. think then the bill ought to be recommit,ed TO
the proper committee TO consider It and perfect in ref
ereDce 10 the action oil the Senate
Mr.. CASS. will appeal to my honorable friend to
say have not gone lar enough already TO know that
we shall have but one road and that the bill we shall
pass, il pass any. will indicate direction and
termini Tor that road This is clear any fact
be, and ] think il has been ably and sufficiently
nounced by the honorable senator from Tennessee the
other day We can have but one road and ii we under
take to PUT the rmni OF the road and the direction OF
the road the BILL il will fail and, as observed in the
commencement shall ritler away the real strength Of
the friends OF the measure on questions OF detail. We
have gone far enough already to ascertain that
Mr.. SHIELDS. think SO.
Mr. CASS. That therefore. furnishes no objection to
its being referred 10 proper committee at this time Now
my honorable friend from Texas Mr. RUsKl says that
II is best 10 continue this discussion upon this bill, and
the other bill be referred 10 the committee al the same
time Tor investigation Why 50, M President THIS
bill embraces the subject and the object as the
other, and why do you want to send one bill TO the com
mee, and discuss the other here open session al the
same time IL is entirely work OF supererogation
Both bills relate 10 the same topics they propose bat DIFF
ieren details OF the same measure and OF course the
committee takes the full measure into consideration, while
at The same Tune we are lcussng me same measures IN
open session think must be obvious 10 every gen.
eman that we wasting our Time in lruless discus
sion. repeat, we have already gone Tar enough 10
certain the great ouine-namely that must not touch
the direction OF the road and must not have branches
therefore, think, under the circumstances that my hon
orabe friend from California would better let this bill go
with the other before the committee SO that the commit
tee can have the whole subject under consideration and
report upon il accordingly.
Mr.. BUTLER. Mr. President, tomorrow will be
Friday and BY fair understanding, as think, with the
honorable senator from New Hampshire, Mr. HALE,l a
subject which discussed last Friday TO be taken
up 10 morrow, upon the general understanding that Friday
is TO be Appropriated TO private bills That express
~ the understanding and now find that il is proposed
that different great projects should be taken up and dis
cussed, to the exclusion of the bill in which have
terest for constituent OF mine. believe subject was
especially apart for odaythe bill in reference TO the
Texas debt upon which, presume, the honorable
tor from Mary land Mr. PEARcE is fully prepared, and
think il ought to be taken up that account Let me
say so also upon another ground, with regard to this
road 1t said OF the Nile tha, it a god and /
think this Pacific railroad project being the
subject OF dedication, OF worship, than anything else
ever heard of IN the Senate Everybody is trying TO
show his zeal in worshipping this great road Where it
is to run nobody knows. II man had farm, and want
ed road TO run through Tomorrow he would have it
surveyed before saying where The road should be And
yet SIR there are so many Jealous devotees to this great
system OF regulating commerce that they are willing 10
give the President the absolute power say where that
channel shall be. | am not OF those gentlemen. If
we are to take up the whole subject all wish TO take
II up with surveys and reconnaissance before TO
leave TO the President say where this road and
its tmint shall be without that necessary information
But, sir, got up 10 ask that Mr. Wiggs case might be
taken up Tomorrow. [Laughterl
Mr. BRIGHT. Mr. President, upon The question with
regard 10 referring this bill providing for road TO the
Pacific 10 proper committee stated, as member OF the
Committee on Roads and Canals, that should CLAIM for
that committee all that which really belongs 10 it. Now,
sir for what purpose is the Committee on Roads and
Canals rased Is At not for the purpose considering
Just such questions those involved 10 the bill OF the
senator from California When this question first came
up claimed for that committee that which thought be-
longed 10 il bat when found that the honorable sena
tor from California opposed 10 having his bill 20 TO
any committee, did not insist reference | said
then, wha, believe the Senate will realize before this
question is disposed OF, and IN III agree with the hon
orable senator from Michigan, Mr.. CAss that before
the details OF this bill be perieciedbeiore the Senate
can be brought to any practical questonhs bill must
90 through The ordeal OF a committee Whenever The
Senate comes TO that conclusion shall insist that II
TO the Committee Roads and Canals; not that am
particularly anxious to multiply the immense amount OF
business we have now hand, but Tor the reason that
these questions le9maely belong there; and think
am dong my colleagues injustice upon the committee
when do not ask for them that which regard az their
right do not belong TO that class OF senator's reerre
10 by the honorable senator from South Carolina, MIR
BUTLER have no great anxiety TO worship tins road
either generally IN lis details. freddy 10 the
measure intend TO vote Tor some road. from some point
on western frontier to point on the PACING, and
am in favor of approprating lands literally for that
object but when the question comes up OF taking money
out OF the national treasury Tor work OF that Kind, ~
will be time enough for 10 decide whether Iayor
proposition not But do rise for the purpose
OF discussing this question nov. do not intend to M
ss upon reference OF this bill at this time, but merely
wish TO give notice to the honorable senator from Cali
forna Mr.. GwIs that, II the Senate decide TO refer the
measure shall insls', for upon having 1t referred
TO The Committee on Roads and Canals.
Now, sir, word in reference to the motion have
made. ! think il is due to the Committee on Finance
that the bill providing Tor lquldang the debt OF Texas
should be disposed Of The Senate ought to act upon H.
and hope the honorable senator from California will
consent that on to-morrow may take up that BILL and
20 forward with il, feeling quite that on omorrow
aud the day following we can dispose OF IT,
Mr.. BADGER Mr. President, do not wish 10 take
any part in this particular discussion. am willing that
this matter shall take any course that gentlemen shall
think advisable. With regard 10 the California railroad
BILL there TO be force and strength IN the OBJ
seryatons which have been made by the honorable sem
who has Just resumed his seat, Mr. BRIGHT, that
il 10 be referred II should to the appropriate com
mitee For myself, differ from that honorable senator
trn kuaw abDut ~ n his