The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-03-19

mechanical purposes shall also come in free of duty
hn ,ink All should oe pui upon me same iooung nod
De decided by the Senate, and shall offer that amend
ment al The proper moment and shall address the SEN
Mr.. BUTLER | know that the senator from New
Jersey Mr. MnLER] is entitled Ihe floor but wish
TO PROFOUND one or two inerrogatores which may have
some influence the propreiy OF taking the without
debale. Do understand from the senator from Virginia
that he intends TO persevere in this amendment
Mr. MASON Yes. sir
Mr.. BUTLER. That being the case, / think the gen
eman from New Jersey ought TO have opportunity 10
discuss the srbject do not commit myself one way
the other | am under nj instructions from South Caro-
lima In regard 10 this question, though she is much in
eresled as North Carolina; but do say that should
not care what my instructions we7e should violate
81 ihe securities OF minority in any form of legislation
u we are TO discuss the tariff on this question dis
cussed the homestead bill and the Pacific railroad bill
making the appropriation bills omnbuses for all sorts OF
measures, Il IS an irregular proceeding, and upon that
ground shall be compelled to vote perhaps against my
Judgment on this proposition. AS lar regards the ap
preparation bills, allow to say ha, think the aten
ZION of this country will be directed 10 the ten
denc'es and the irregularities of Legislation until the APP
preparation bills do fail. Let them fail
Mr. BRODHEAD So say
| Mr.. MASON. wish to say, in reply to what has
fallen from the senator from South Carolina, [Mr Bur
LER,l thai agree with him upon the mproprely of his
mode OF egsatlon-ihe making the appropriation bills
the vehicle for carving not legitmatey
neced with them. Bat his experience here and my
perenee, have demonstrated that other senators do not
with they do place upon the appropriation bills
/
were incongr gruous, as we thought What, them is our
poson' There is no rule ot the Senate forbddng il;
there IS no law Of the land forbddng it and must
either do as others do and endeavor TO attain The meas
nres which consider proper by making the appropra
lion bills the vehicle OF them, we must make
situen,s the victims of our forbearanCe. There is no
alternative before would unite cheerfully with the
majority 10 exclude everything from the appropriation
bulls except that which is strictly appropriate 10 them
bat when see that the Senate does not do that, have
no alternative but 10 conform my course to that OF the
Senate, there being law rule against me- and Tor
that reason must persist in nay amendment
] Mr. BUTLER do not blame my friend from Vir
gnla. The precedent has been set by majority when
they could carry measure and ii he avalls himself OF
the weapons. do not know that blame him Ru'
this practice has not commenced to-day, in the
last year. the whole system of this government s
crumbng und r. the weight of irresponsible majority
\ whenever they want 10 carry anything.
/ Mr.. DAVIS. suppose every gentleman in this cham
Der entirely satisfied that this amendment opens The
whole question OF the revenue laws OF the county,
that dlsturbs the settlement that was made in 1916, and
dslubs upon of The points where the greatest DIFF
fcuIly then elt This cannot go through
and gentlemen feel that they would not discharge their
duty as they ought TO do to their constituents with
out discussion intended to discuss II, for one, and
have iet II to be my duty to do but as am assured
by many gentlemen here that under the circumstance
which exist the opinion OF the Senate is not in favor o.
the adoption OF this measure, shall for5ear the right o
discussion so far as | am concerAed
/ Mr. BRIGHT. Ii is very manifest that if this meas
ure IS pressed It will lead to debate which will endan
ger not only this, but all the appropriation bills which
are follow it, am sorry find that the worthy chair
man of The Committee Finance Mr.. HUsTERl feels
embarrassed by the presentation OF this amendment He
is aborng under instructions from his Legislature which
prevent bis resisting the amendment Now, appreheD nd
that if senators here opposed 10 this measure could be
satisfied that would be voted down, they would not IN
sist on discussing 1t.
Mr.. ADAMS. Suppose we lay the amendment on the
table.
Mr. BRIGHT There is no rule authorizing the mo.
ton TO lay amendment the table. or should Ger
tainy make it. Ii is manifest that no measure covering
such extensive grounds embracing as great and varied
Interests and affecting such capital this amendment at
ecs pass here without discussion and IT discussion
be persisted IN it will not only last hours but days We
have but two days and half eft for Legislation. IL u
very clear to my mind that the amendments will all be
voted down. favored the original proposition present
ed by the honorable chairman OF the Committee Fl
nance extending the time lor The collection Of railroad
duties for five years but when found IT led to discus
sion which is likely 10 consume great deal OF time,
assened with other members OF the committee, 10 the
withdrawal Of the amendment, and 1t was withdrawn
The honorable senator from Virginia Mr.. MAsos then
felt bound to renew the question. shall vote against
the amendment OF the senator from Illinois, and also
agains, the amendment of the senator from Virginia, not
that opposed TO either of them in principle. but for
the reason given by the senator from Pennsylvania, Mr.
BRoDHEAp that they out OF place, and they are Ill
tuned, Al may be allowed that expression We cannot
consider tbem cannot discuss them. That is impos
sble | think il gentlemen who feel bound 10 discuss
lhem and who feel that is their duty to discuss them
will sit still and permit vote, we shall vote on the
amendments without debate.
! Mr. DAVIS We will agree to that
MIR BRIGHT II the senators on that side will agree
To bal course Will take my seat, nopng the vote VIII
| be taken,
| Mr. MILLER Mr. President, have the floor on ,h,
quesuon but have no disposition TO trespass the tim'
of the Senate in regard to II, be assured that hi
measure will not be put upon this bill at this time.
| Mr. TOUCEY. The senator from New Jersey will al
low me a word of explanation. shall vote against The
without regard the merits OF the proposition
Itself because think is objectionable, fatally objection
able in the legislation OF Congress- that measures OF this
kind should be put upon appropriation bl and there
fore without discussion, without gong beyond this ex
planaton T. for one, shall vote against any measure OF
the kind. ..# :, ),
| Mr. WELLER The senator from New Jersey will
allow me 10 state that endorse what has Just been said
by the sepa tor from Connecticut, and shall vote with hin
for The same reason. II will be utterly impossible TO
have this bill passed through Congress this amendment
| be made. .
Mr. MILLER II there is to be no further debate on
thi. subject under the tina, have had, II the
| The vote be no w taken will yield the floor
/ MIR DOUGLAS wish TO state distinctly to the Sen
ate that cannot become party 70 any such arrange
ment This thing of a measure being defeated simply
senators and say going to talk the
session. is not right, and do think 1t ought TO be
yielded 10.
said should not have yielded TO threat.
Mr. DOUGLAS II we COMPROMISE IL upon any such
principle any amendment which may hereafter be brought
for 10 ay OF these bills be killed any bill which
may be offered be defeated. think we all under
stand this question well enough to vote and shall vote
according my of duty, and not IN conformity WIN
any compton, which may be made
! Mr. MANGUM Under the course which gentlemen
have taken feel hound to reac the declaration wbics
made short time since, ahd if gentlemen are TO pro-
cerd with the discussion shall vote under me Rsuc
| lions of my own legislature Let gentlemen who have
The power take the responsibility OF defeating the civil