The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1853-03-31

HueS. Ask ulul tOat6du tudt dtlSSIaUOn, ana say
whether it is in the usual form Of such attesaions
as he has been in the habit of receiving.
Ans. He says that Is in the form that ia used
Cues. In the handwriting and signatures and
Ans With regard to the signature, he cannot
say but as to the form of the certificate ii is the
same that he has seen.
Ques Is it in the usual handwriting that he has
pee peen accustomed to see-not the signature only.
but also the handwriting of the certificate?
Ans. He does not know il.
Cues. understand him that he has received
documents frequently from New Leon, signed by
the signature and seal of the Governor of the
State of New Leon; ask him if the handwriting is
the same that he has been accustomed to of the
Governor of New Leon?
Mr.. MAY said the question had been repeatedly
asked.
After some remarks the question was put in this
form: Whether the seal and certificate were the
same, whether the handwriting was the same, as
he had been in the habit of receiving from the
Governor of New Leon?
Ans. He says that he has already said that he
does not know the seal the signature, nor res
member the signature of the Governor of New
Leon. AL that he say is, that this ia the form
| in which the signatures of the State are written
Cues. Ia that the handwriting?
Ans. He cannot give assurance of that
Cues. Did he not say that he recollected less of
the handwriting than Of the form of the letter?
Ans. What he means TO speak of is the form of
the letter. That is all he knows.
CUES Is it usual for the governor of one State of
the republic of Mexico TO authenticate the sigma
ture of the governor of another State?
The form OF the question varied; objec ed
to- the objection overruled, and the question
finally put in this form, viz: Does he know thh
usage of the republic of Mexico, and is it the
usage of one State of the republic Of Mexico to
authenticate the acts of the governor of another
State on papers to go to foreign country?
Ans. The custom L. that in the first place the
authorization is made by the judge, and this is
certified to by the political authorities, the COVER
nor; and the Minister of Relations for Foreign Az
fairs certi6es to the signature of the governor.
Witness, Tin reply to question: The sigma
ture of the judge is certified to by the governor, if
in the capital; if in any other place, then the ap
plication is to be had to the project, and the gov
ernor certies to the signature of the project. If
nature of the governor is certified to by the Secre-
tary OF State or the Minister of Foreign Relations
MIR. BRADLEY. Has he ever seen tie signatures
of the governor certified to by consuls?
Ans. He says, no.
Cues. Has he seen any papers certified to go into
foreign countries?
Ans. He has.
Mr.. MAY. Has he known any instance where
one governor certified to the ignature of the gov
ernor OF another State?
Ans. He has never seen it done, nor does he be-
lieve that Spanish legislation requires it, Each
State is independent by itself, and its documents
and the acts of its officers cannot be certified to by
another State.
Mr.. BRADLEY. How then can it be certified to
by the supreme government?
-dns. He says the supreme government is bound
to know the authorities of each State and does no
more than to certify to their signatures and seals
of Office.
CUES Is this certifying by the Minister of Fo.
reign Relations, of the signatures and seals of the
authorities of the States, by any law of Mexico?
Ans He says there is a necessity for so doing.
CUES. But is there any law requiring this to be
done?
Ans. No, sir; he does not know positively
whether there is any law requiring it, but there is
this eason for it: The signatures of the governors
OF States are not known in foreign countries, but
the signature of the Minister Of Foreign Relations
is known.
MIR. BRADLEY. Is there any law in Mexico re.
curing copies of signatures and of seals of gov.
ernors and secretaries of State of the States to be
deposited or furnished to the Minister of Foreign
Relations?
Ans. There is provision on that subject. He
says that impressions of the seal of the States are
sent to the Minister Of Foreign Relations. There
Is an order or provision to that effect.
Mr.. MAY. Is he acquainted with the regulations
in Mexico concerning mines?
dns: He has very little knowledge of them be-
cause ne has had little speculation5 in them him
Cues. Tell him to look at that mining title and
say II he has ever known announcement of
mine which was not signed by the officer grant
ing Eh it, on...;on r.,, .,;.,
Cues. Let him look at that paper, (the mining
title, &c y and say if it has the signature of the
party granting it?
Mr.. CARLISLE objected to the question.
The Court said the paper was in a foreign tongue,
and an interpreter might be called to say if it had
or had not signature to it.
Cues. Let him read that mining title, and say if
1t has any signature to it of the officer or party
granting the announcement?
ms he says that the signature of the Judge
that admitted it ia not there; but the certificate of
the project is: What is wanting, he says, is the
aOrna of no lrrl~ lDo,kk
ment. The political authority certifies that such
a announcement was entered in such book but
the authority for the announcement is not there
CUES. Ask him If the copy iscomplete?
The COURT said that question could not be al |
lowed.
Cues Ask him if the signature of the Judge or
other officer granting the announcement ought to
be there or not?
on which it is omitted because of forgetfulness.
This 10 an incomplete copy because that ia want
ing, just as if the date was left out.
CUES. He has been asked to the formula of the |
Potos? 1>N'0
Ans He says this Con the mining title) is not
he form.
CUES. Ask him to state the difference?
Ans. He says the difference is, every certificate
n the Spanish commences ri certify;" this for
nua in good language ought to be stated or ex-
pressed differently from what it is.
Ans, He says give him piece of paper and he |
will putt down.
Witness then wrote the formula as it should |
have been, which translated reads: 81 certify that
the foregoing signature of Don Francisco Fernan-
DEE, Project of the Department of Rio Verde s the
same that he uses and has used on official docu
ments addressed to the government under nv
charge"
1.-THE translation of the certificate on the papers
reads "Ihe Governor of the free State of San Luis
Poosi authenticates the signature of Don Francis
co Fernandez, Project of Rio Verde, which attests
the above document."]
Mr.. BRADLEY. Ask him if he ever travelled
from the city of San Luis to Tampico?
Ans. He has not.
Cues. Ask him if he ever knew the seal of the
State of San Luis Potosi to be changed?
Ans. He does not know-he does not remeno
ber
The DIsTRIcT ATTORNEY. Ask him if at auv
time before he left Mexico he was requested bv
nybody to come here and be witness in this
case?
Mr.. BRADLEY objected.
The Court ruled the question to be inadmissi-
BILE.
Cues Did he come over in the same vessel with
the commissioners?
Ans. He did.
Cues. Had he any intercourse with the commits.
sioners respecting this case?
Ans. No; he did not know them until they
were on board.