The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-02-15

we did Iexas. Chihuahua and Souoma-no matter how
no matter what be their condition or that of Mexico
no matter If they about into the hand of Euro
pean powers they cannot for our honor and
faith are solemny pledged not to annex them The oppo
nens OF this provision strongly endeavored to strike it
out and after long and warm debate they left in
minority OF IL to az. Thus, by treaties with Great
Britain and Mexico, bound for ever to submit TO
violations OF the Monroe doctrine After all this where
was the virtue OF procamng the Monroe doctrine
He would like TO know the effect be produced by tho
proclamation of that doctrine nowof proclaming to the
tons but that we van do things m ro tsi I'll, %e
henceforh Submission to wrong and threats to re ,st
its repetition for the future produce but little fear men,
ana much less in powerful nations Those resolutions
referred also to Cuba. That win resist by all the
means in our power the transfer of Cuba 10 any Euro
pean power, with without the consent OF Spain is
matter too well settled to be questioned or doubted by
any American. This is well known to all Europe Why
then under this declaration of the Monroe doe
rlne, make disclaimer of any possible perdy inter
terng with the rights of Spanr Why dsclam any in.
ention to wrong hers In what act past relations
disposition to do injustice towards herr II anything we
have forborne with her Our President has overlooked
guaranteed to them by treaty Why then anticipate sus
piclon OF wrong by us by disclaimer of any such
intention? Great Britain has invited the United States
unite in guarantee to Spain of Cuba She may well ask
the United States to do She il soctous for Spain
very Why does she not restore to Spain Jamaica which
holds Cuba in check9 Why not restore to Spain Gibrat
tor the key Of the Mediterranean Why does she not
restore to their original her colonies scattered
throughout the wor-a of which she has taken by yio
lence fraud and rerGdy All the possessions she has
she obtained by such means why, then, does she Ask
US to bind ourselves not to steal the property of
neghbors We have got territory but what we have
paid for literally We have not held for centuries colo
MES mes Obtained by war rapne perdy and frauds Why
any disclaimer of any such intention to commit wrong
upon spain, thereby conveying the implication that we
were open to any such accusation. Great Britain and
france may do So They after getting all they
have BY fraud and violence, may pray that We
their neighbor, may become honest, and not steal
and when asked by the Sum United states s'''' as To-
her intention she assured the Secretary of State she did
not intend to retain it. That officer and the President
were rejoiced they sent message to Congress CON
siderng it cause for national conqratulation. But
now following that act up they have seized coonzed
THESE bay Islands, There not much value in these
disclaimers He could not consider his house any more
safe in the night because the thief had pledged his honor
camer would not prevent it-and among honest men, no
disclaimer was necessary 1t was true that the United
States and some of its public had been denounced
IN Europe as marauders and robbers and he would
vote for any resolution which by implication sanctioned
such an accusation There might be in these clauses Of
the resolutions, lurking allusion to certain indi
vdual of about his proportions 1t was customary for
persons to attribute these awess and maraudng
purposes to portion of the people whom they designate
as Young America, and he had been referred to- the
other day. as being identified with that party He knew
OF nothing in his political conduct deserving such i'm
puation lie had for six years past uniformly voted
treaties and other matters to sustain the Monroe doc
trine. He had done no more. The difference between
him and those with whom he had not voted was that he
was against giving pledges for future conduct and
then submitting to their gross and open violation His
sentiments with regard to Cuba had been public for nine
years So ,ng Cuba is content to remain loyal the
crown OF Spain, be it SO. He had desire or wish to
disturb or change that relation Whenever the people Of
Cuba shall show themselves worthy Of freedom by
ciatng and maintaining free republican institutions his
heart his feelings and his sympathes, would be with
ed and maintained il it be advisable for their interests
and protection that should do for them did with
Texas, he would receive them into the Union. When
ever Spain shall be satisfied that she longer hold
Cuba and shall be willing transfer to the United States
on terms - would be willing To treat with her
should 90 - to any European nation he for taking
possession of that island and for holding II at al hazards
He could not vote to make the first declaration in the
resolution, because by implication, it sanctioned the
charge OF turptude against United States He could
not vote to make the second one viz &c That ii could
European nation would dare hazard its existence by at
tempting to take it, England would not attempt it. for
American continent She has given bond and surety
keep the peace this continent Let act firmly in the
matter Of the offence and leave future events to
when the resolution intervention before the Sc
nate He was then, and now, unwilling to say would
we deem best when the arises. He thought was
the duty Of the executive to take the first stepto
SGuT;sOus rtsnpesq tp and firmly against
protest be dsregarded let him ask of Congress action in
this matter He intended to arraign man, to at
tack any one but as he had not till had opportu
nifty Of explaining his these several treaties
had taken this occasion to do
OLD AMERICA CATlcHlsING YOUNG AMERICA
Mr.. CAss (dem.) of Mich said the senator had in
duged in pretty free remarks tile resolution and
he thought he could show them to be hyper-criti
cisms bhe Senator objects because the resolution says
have intention to interfere with disturb existing
rrats. Does the Senator desire to destroy existing
'isessi c, .,,,..,.u. y.
=, MT. OAss-Why not say 90 then in the resolution
The words were used by Mr. Polk, existing rights does
not mean existing wrongs" # any colonization pos
session at this time be wrong it is not existing right
but existing wrong and is not protected by the
luton. The resolution does not wipe out the past,
II the Bay Islands were taken in face OF the treaty
and 1t is not therefore an existing right In
tho words of the resolution possessory wrongs were
not existing rights. lie thought there for this
declaration of the Monroe doctrine Monroe, Jefferson
and Polk thought there in laying this doctrine
down, but it had laid idle in the archives of the nation
Monroe doctrine not violated in the Oregon treaty
The Senator had entirely msconccved the question The
moment we conceded me ritsh line as coming down to
40 deg conceded that the Monroe doctrine did not ap
ply above that line We have given mp nothing in the
Bay Islands affair for it not known here till within
six weeks. We have done nothing there conccdng any
British rights As to Nicaragua, could get treaty
there and the easiest way to enforce the Monroe doc
trne in Central America was agree with Great Britain
to keep hands eff .e gentleman was in favor Of pro
test by the President OF what value was that II had
already been made by Messrs Monroe and Polk but when
put in this shape II will be the protest Of the American
people in authoritative shape and nation in Europe
would disregard it, In these days. when no man knew
what tomorrow would bring forth it proper that
this nation should notify the world OF what its policy was
TO be. He did not intend, by the disclaimer of any in
tenton to disturb the rights OF spain, imply the
istence Of any turpitude in the American character
Mr. DOUGLAS said such would be the inference of other
nations.
Mr. CAss said 1t had not occurred to him in that light
He nothing OF the kind IN ii. AS to what sah
about Old and Young America, 1t was not fiji for tho
Senate. Old a..erca had had to bear its burden of
abuse, and as Young America got old would have to
stand the same abuse.
Mr.. DorGLAs said, as to the remark about Young
America he had introduced il into the Senate till
after it had been commented upon in a speech this
subject the other dythc only speech made the sub
ect to which the Senator from Michigan had not replied
He could not, therefore, understand; certainly did not
expect to receive the lecture for using those words from
the Senator.
Mr.. Cas- said he had not lectured the Senator. lie
had always taken sold fogy" TO himself
Mr. DOUGLAS said If IL fit for the Sena tor TO the
words old ogy," and 'young America" for year in
the Senate it was fit for him TO use them this
son in reply TO speech made by another Senator. The
Senator says that his words "exisng rights do not
justify the past Do they Justify the taking Of jamaica
seized by usurper whose act disa vowed but the
tcntory rctanedf Did they recognize the colony at the
paze taken possession Of under grant TO cut ogwood,
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