The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-01-03

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| cabinet admit it's objectionable character, they
! deem II Necessary as dnsn6ial resource.
1t Is confidently stated that commercial treaty
| between France and England has slrssdy been de-
cdeo upon, and only awaits certain ei6c Atio0s
1 pIicr 10 being publicly announced. Ia Francs, the
duties On English coal, pig iron, and cotton twist,
will II is SAID be modified; the corresponding boom,
being reduction OF the duty the Importation Of
French wines into England
England, generally, is still suffering from floods,
caused by the continued rains. Even the lake dis
trics have been deiuged, and great damage done to
Mr. Kirwan, the artist, who has been condemned
to death for the murder of his wife, On Irslsnd's
Eye, lonely ISLE Dublin, Ia to be executed
the 18th Of January Il still solemnly protests his
innocence This event has created the most painful
! excitement in Ireland.
From . return just printed, it appears that the
grain imported into the United Krngdom last year,
| snouuted to OBJ, 402 quarters, and OF meal and
-four g. 1888 $40 cwt. OF live stock, the number i'm
ported was 30i, PAT The declared value Of British
produce and manufactures exported from the United
! Kingdom to the countries and colonies from which
tho grain, -four, and live stock were imported,
amounted in the year 10 G6S, SIG, 4SS
Statement of toHnsge Cleared ont from tho port
Of Liverpool to New York from January LIST to De-
| eembsr 4, 1852 giving that of the American ~
compared with the British tonnage
! ydneJcsn British
Sailing vsrfels cleared Sailing vessels cleared .
Steam do do 1850 stesm do 3si7o
Loading. .......... 1887 LosdipS. ....,.... 1850
Total. .s5e,a21 fetal. 80 la
Balance in favor of the American, 3l7,077 tons,
or more than eight times the British.
The greater portion OF the British oeayances are
Of vessels belonging to the timber trade, which went
on to the ST. Lawrence, after landing passengers at
| New York.
THE DEBATE IN THE BRITISH HOUSE or cOMxoss
RELATIVE TO THE HOUSE DUTIES.
/ FRIDAY, Dec. TO-
The SPEAKER took the chair 1t q quarter to four
great number of pstisions were presented, pray
I Snn kHnH r,nk IN land H. kAv AL
not to double tho house duty. Also, for legacy
duty upon real property and that the remission Of
duty upon tea might be extended over three or four
| years instead Of ak.
| On tbs motion that tho Speaker do leave the
chair, and that tho House do 80 into Committee Of
Ways and Means for the purpose Of considering the
hrst Of the Chancellor Of tho Exchequsr's rssolu-
tions, having reference to the proposed measure OF
| house duties.
| Nr. T. DuScoNBB strongly expressed his objss-
tons to the whole budget particularly to the in.
crease Of the house tax He declared that he shoad
divide the Houge upon the present question, in order
to test its opinions.
Mr. WALTER eaid he should divide with the hon.
cradle members; if the debate took place upon ali
miscellaneous discussions which had ever taken
place. He had no objection to m increase Of the
house tax, but he should oppose reduction Of the
mali tax.
Sir L1TToN BuLwER defended the propositions Of
government a. steps in the right direction towards
reducing the burdens and extending trade; and, rs
they lessensd the tax on malt, they reduced the
financial difficulty Of getting rid Of it altogether,
whilst in TIE meantime, they cau,ed the price sf
beer to come down. He calculated the reduction
upon superior kinds of beer would DO penny quart.
(Cries Of oh, oh.) This vas . question, MOI Of
town against country, su. Of frestrsds sgainst
striction. (Cheers) He then made an eloquent
appesl on behalf Of the goverane snd sat Down
amidst losa cheers from the ministerial benches.
Mr.. GLADSTONE thought it would be Injurious to
mix up votes Of confidence with taxation, 70 teeas
tho latter as party questions He strongly protested
against the principle Of not providing more than the
services Of the year required; and considered the
principle Of the ;re should be reconsidered
before its extension Was taken into consideration.
He then, at rome length, gave his reasons for his
protest against throwing away the surplus before
ways and means were provided.
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER should give
tho highest authority for thu course he proposed,
the principle of which he strongly defended.
Mr. DUACoAIE said. # the budget were to DO
amended in committee, and not swallowed enti.s,
no would withdraw his motion.
| Lord j. RUssELL Was for going into committee.
After . few obseIva;ions from Er. Osborne, Mr.
Hume, Mr. hudson, and the Chancellor Of the En-
ehequsr, tho motion was Withdrawn.
the Hogso then went late c0mnittee-Nr W.
Patten in the chair
The resolution Of the House having been read,
Mr.. WILLIAMS pTQpoied the amendment for wkicA
Re had given notice, to substitute legacy and pro-
bate duty on real opeIty.
Sir r. II INGI.Es thought that exemptions from
the income tax ought TO be on different principle
than at preseai.
Mr.. HUHE ard Mr.. BRIGrT, although coineidng
in the views Of Mr. Williams, advised him to with.
draw his notion in order to take into confederation
the resolutions by themselves.
After few words from Mr.. Hudson, VINO ap.
proved of the resolution, M. Williams withdrew
his on end n,ert
Mr. PENN opposed the measure, inssmuch a. il
would disfrsrchiss large Numbers. The income tai
involved the important eue,sion. bow far dr.o. tax
alton should be brought 10 bear upon classes suffer
Ing from indirect t. xaiion
Mr.. BALL tbcgght GI0 houreho!dsrs ought to
bear increased house tax without clamor. He s50ua
hare preferred the abolition Of the malt tax. but
would support the whole budget ns the best h could
get under TIE circumstances
Mr.. d. AILNEs believed tia. government would
be disappointed liz their expectations and that the
extension CT the house tsx veue revive pas. rivalry
between The towns and The country.
Er. SAUNDERS objected to certain parts Of the
scheme, but considered the coed ooanssrbAlsaced
the evil.
After q few words from Mr VIVIAN,
Mr. RI DEuksoND thought direct taxation was
not carried far enough, but he haa great DOUBTS as
to its Efficiency. He considered ii matter Of duly
net 70 crIcss the budget.
Mr. HElDLAM went into variety Of calculations
TO show The effect of the proposed changes on the
reyenoe& which lie did not consider satisfactory or
ut oil just to the lower ORDERS.
Mr. CAyLEY considered that common Justice re-
qursd re7,,ion oftaxation sfer tse Liquidation Of
lS46, ars highly commended the financial scheme Of
Cbsncellor Of tho Exchequer. He .as convinced .
nsjority approved Of its principles. and wondered
they had not lore confidence in the tfnah Of tkez.
he commended that these proposals carried out
unrestricted composition He put variety Of oas,s
to chow taeIr Justice. and WAS surs the eommoa
sense OF the country would adopt them.
Sir O. woop denied that any Glasses were suffer
| ing. He approved Of the removal Of light duss,
which benefited 10th foreign and British ship own.
err, whereas reduction Of The timber duties weuli
benefit the latter and tho whole gnity. The
/ Improvements in tas condition Of the Vest Indies
and tho agricultural interest, proved they did net
require assistance. he then entered into toe dstails
OF the budget, ts the principal points of whi.b he
strongly obeatc5. He deprcoascd the wsy in which
the es.imstsd .urplus was n.do op, aad ipsas.sd
that the recuctoa il the mslt tax would lead - no
! increase Of consumption. He tsunted the Chaaesl
4 Tor Of tho ExchequF with holding out great pre-
mise, which contained nothing extrsordin ary, aud
voale only lead TO needless and oppressive taxa,n
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