The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-01-04
IoUR SPECIAL REPORT.

Debates Ia the Q ,nmon Council.
OUR SPECIAL REPORT
BOARD OF ALDERMEN, JSn ), 1875.
SHE IATK FIRE IN IHE BowERY-wAEM pEBATE -
INkLING " OF A FIGHT.
Alderman SMITH eleventh ward) called up s.
report Of the Committee on the Fire Department,
made some nine his ago in favor Of appropriating
$40 TO tbe purchase of some suitable testimonial
TO DC presented 10 Joseph Mount, Of Hose Com
psny No Ia, Tor his heroic services the occasion
OF the tire in the Bowcry, on the 18th OF March
last, When be lad, at the Imminent hazard Of his
ean lille, saved those OF two women and two chill
osea.
Alderman BARD (Fougteeash rard) seconded the
sdtption of the report.
Alderman STUETEvANT (rhivd ward) desired to
AIo~ whether air Noun. had done ans thing ore
thar any other man would ave done-an5 one
sltsiDg around that Boards
Alderman BARD-Yes.
Alderman SUNBEAM Any thing more than the
gentleman of the Fou :teenta himself would have
ocuet
Alderman BARD was not there.
Alderman bGURrEvANr- Then more shame for
h" Dir. Mount was there, and had the oppor-
I0uity-
Aioermsn SMITH, should like to know whether
The gentleman is speaking in favor of or against the
Kreoutiona
Alderman SruETEvASr II the gentleman vii
have little patience, exercise what he is dis
trguisbed for, little civility ana politeness he'll
hro CO. what IN talking about. Here is re-
port before IN favor Of awarding three hundred
oolsis, Of three hundred dollars worth, to Mr.
Ecuns for dong wnas any true hearted hre man
would be glad 10 have the opportunity of dong -
Aud am sure my friend of the Fourteenth. with
Als tat cheerful couDtt suce, wishes he had been
h,Ie, snd the tall Son Of Yok-
Alderman SMITH Il rise u point Of order, Mr.
President and believe my voice is above his now
Alderman STUaTBgvA sT.-No it Amt, Qaugh-
hter) want 70 know what is the point Of order,
The PRESIDENT fake your seat, sir, TO Aid
erman Smith State your point
AID SMITH -Aoccre ing to the rules Of this Board
member shall De pt rsonal
The PRESIDENT held that the gentleman Of the
Third, (Al0 Sturtevans,) WAS out of order.
Aid STURTEvAST wished to know whether DE
vas to unoerstat the Chair that be had been psr
soLai OF whether MS remarks we're out of order,
f.srirg to any one member OF the Board whether
thsY were made II complimentary sense or other
yise, In short, whether remarks came within the
stLse contemplated by the rule, if they such
soopi6 take umbrsge at He had pride
soout being called TO order, az he had been a mem
Der Of that Board fer s0ma years, and | DO not
think the Char ought to have decided that an
cut of order.
The Chairman, thus appealed to, endeavored to re
conoile the ter, and said, that both gentlemen
bad become Father exosted.
Alderman sMITH said ne was DO more excited
tssL sss pecessaIy; but he did not mean that his
vcico should be completely dro gped by he stento-
risn lu1gs of the gentleman from the Third. He
dia lot wish, nor old he suppose any gentleman
Wi.htd. 10 be held up before that Board IN slang
style Of expression; snG the gentlem an from the
Third ought TO eonfae himself Co the resolution and
bad no rig OF TO speak OF Alderman OF the Four
teenih, as that tat, well fed looking gentleman,
Of DIM AZ the Tai Son Of York. 1, continued he,
may BE tall AID be short, but what has that 20 do
win the resolution The gentleman il sensitive
about beiI called TO order and We sensitive
On other poinS.
Alderman sTURTEvAkT-Now sir, ] suppose /
NAV 20 on. Uaugater This report, say comes be-
lore US under the auspices Of the tsest pro mi
rent men bers Of this Board, and therefore say,
that not ding IL Gomez seconded by tho tall
Son of York -,
Alderman SMITH, OE, sir, won't submit to
this any logger.
AID. sTURrEvANT-i am surely al liberty 20
70 On.
Aid smTH-Not at my expense, though Nov,
Mr President, let him take his seat, and call for
the resolution 10 be read
The President again decided the Alderman OF
the Third out oi order
Aid. SmTB--I claim that when he has been
twice declared out of order. he has right to speak
again Without toe permission Of the Board.
The PRESIDENT referred to rule seventeen, which
provides that one shall speak twice he same
question VI 'hout p rIDisson.
AID. CORNELL thought tie gentleman ought
10 90 on Dc hadnt spoken to the resolu ion at all
yet. U4augater)
Aid DKsMAs hoped the Chair would oonfne him
TO tho resolution; these personal remarks wore too
often made IN the Board, and sometimes ironically.
IL useless consumption Of the public time; and
not only that bat t wsS very INDIGENOUS. He nad
been tho subj CT OF some Of .neE. himseE and he
deemed them very much out Of place.
Aid. SfURrEyANr again essayed to speak, but re-
poa,ed tie objectionable epithet Of the Tall Son Of
York whereupon,
Alderman ssirH ssid-Mr President, II this is TO
be permitted mutt ssk your leave TO throw an
inkstabd st bis bead. which viii do, go sure a.
eit here, IL be repeats those words.
The PRhsIDEST-Fne Chairman must iusist on
the ger tlemar cophniDg himself to tho resolution
Alderman STURrEvAET-l mean to do go But
neither the President or any ono else, is to tell me
what language am 70 use, and when say, With
out intending any c6ence, the tall Son Of York
Alderman SsTrH-Nov. Sir
Alderman BRasLBY here rose, and with difficulty
obtained n hearing He had bimsef been the CUB.
jcct Of some Of the gentleman's remarks in the
et~ipg, but he had taken little heed Of them
They had, however, been INDUCED in to such an
extent throughout the year. that he tn ought il was
time they were noticed
Alderman STURrKvAHT then spoke, referring to
the question before TIE Board and arguing that
Mr.. Mount had only done what any Of them would
have done under the sircu stances, aad that they
had right to put their hands in the treasury for
such purpose.
Alderman BARD replied that Mr. Mount had no.
required or expected any such reward, but IL was,
nevertheless, due 10 him 10 offer IL
Alderman sTuRrBvANT thanked him for the sue.
seetion " they thought proper individually 10 re.
gard him they might do so, and there was no OBJ
cotton; but they had no right to draw on the city
funds for such D purpose.
Alderman DfNNAS regretted such o report had
been presented. He agreed with the Alderman Of
The Third, that they had no right 70 make suoh an
appropriation, donation, for such, in baot, ii
was, OF three hundred dollars II had boon Gus
touary 20 psss com plme ptary resolutions, acknow
sdgipg such services and he considered such an OK
,ycssion Of the confidence Of their fellow citizens
IA quite MS acceptable. He moved that the re-
pert be laid on The table and printed
ANer few more observations, the motion TO lay
on he table, &c was Put, and carried