The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-02-26
House of Representatives.

ward Stanly ember of the body replying to reaec-
tons upon him contained in certain papers from Commo-
dore Thomas Ap Catesby JONES' relative to private
claim heretofore referred TO the Committee Naval
Affairs and ordered to be printed. Commodore Jones ac
cused Mr. stany of being extremely inmical to him and
the letter Gays that far from being inimca his wish
in moving that only Of the papers be printed the
other day, TO suppress belous attacks upon him.
he would not refer to the proceedings of the court martial
which tried the Commodore being inclined to throw =
veil over The .ranactions.
Mr.; Mr.. sryAGT (lem of Mich, mcGcd that tho letter
Mr.. TooMlis. (whg) Of Ca, hoped no, al th,s vas
merely private Quarrel between ihe gcntem and tic
Mr. JonNscS, (dem) of AK, asked whether The com.
munication rejecting upon Mr. sanly had been inted
Inc SPEAKER replied aitrmatiyely
Mr.; JonNsCN-then it is but sheer justice the letter
should be printed
Dir Stuart motion was agreed 10.
IiE NAVY ArPEopRiAu0s BILL.
The House went INTO Committee Of the Whole the
state of tie Union after refusing take up Ike private
calendar and proceeded consideration OF the bill
making appropriation for the naval service
Mr. STANTON, (dem) of TEMP. said it was well known
the committees have not reported for twelve mouths and
II was equally well known the Committee on Naval AT.
fairs have had important matters prepared to present
to the house In the early part Of the session. ne was
instructed TO report bill authorizing the President of
the United States to to be built, equipped and
armed with the most effective ordnance for the navy
three gate and three soops of all to be propelled
Dy STEAM or heated air. as recently applied bv Ericsson
that should prove to be preferable to steam and for
that purpose $40 500, COO be appropriated.
Mr.. JONES, (dom.) Of Tenn, said il his colleague
should offer this as an amendment he would make
question of order.
Mr. STANTON reped-He expected this from his worthy
friend and colleague After the efforts made to prevent
reports being made from the committee it has been the
pleasure of gentlemen to rule out by raising cues
ons OF order designed for the prosperity and
defence OF the country month ago the principle of
Ericsson had just been developed but something
has been done He had been informed that the Secretary
Of the Navy has much confidence the principle that
he proposes to build two ships of the largest class
cnry TO be given that they shall acquire certain degree
OF speed and but eight tons of coal each per
aa whether we adopt the system Of caloric not it
Is indispensable to build the vessels themselves We
now expend 81 annually for the repair of yes
sells, which amount might almost we'll be thrown into
the sei In ten years fifteen millions thus expended
for repairs and every vessel is constructed the
old model instead Of having good and efficient vessels
Mr.. Swn.rsiR (dem) of Ohio, inquired whether the
evil has not originated from the fact that the NAVY De-
partment repair even at the original cost Of
the ship to avoid objections there being law author
iziDg them to be built.
disposition in the House to build ships but ndispos
tion to appropriate millions upon millions to repair them
Is expended We obliged to keep up q navy and II
Congress will not build they must repair the vessels
aaere seems to be universal apprehension that there
VIII De difficulty between France and the rest of Eu
rope and he asked whether, in this contingency, we
ought to play neutral part did from 1900 TO 1872
and whether We to be tramped on by belgerent
powers, at that period without rcsistapccS
1t is our bounden duty, IL will not increase the
Gent You hear gentlemen maintaining that it il
duty to enforce the celebrated Monroe doctrine,
and it is said in all quarters that citizens not
in favor of asserting the Monroe doctrine but
net psspsr-a to enforce He heard every day of
citizens being insulted and had learned that Ancri
OF this continent obliged to declare themselves
EDghmen to procure protection, for the that
we do our rights and protect citizens We
not prepared to do 1t. In ths admira
bic letter of tine Secretary Of state, the truth pro
claimed that territorial Development is the law Of our
political existence The possession Of Florida louisiana
Texos Oregon and California, gives inn
mense shore line the Gulf Of Mexico and the
Pacific, which increases a necessity for defen-
sive preparations. As TO Cuba, he believed it to
be indispensable to our national security No question
the ghoe il Win be ~ our dnn to taks Rat wa viii
never be ready to assert rights and do what our
country requires until we have change in our naval
tween the United States aud England France, Havana
wosld be neutral port Not 50. Either OF them, in
is now virtually within their power-for allow them
to send their vessels of there TO maintain, they
efficient force in the Pacific that coast being entirely
deienceless
Nr. RowIF, (whg) Of Nd, spoke of the poor defence
afforded to country and said that only the
fifth naval power in the world notwithstanding
is the largest. We have to believe that
our foreign relations are Of the most delicate character
The public mind of The country is nos being prepared for
some great national struggle by men who delight to feed
the appetite with wrongs rerpetrated hall century
ago. II We arc to become the defenders OF republican
principles throughout the world many gentlemen de-
sire, we must be panoplied for that purpose If there
ing it is He pressed the importance of protecting
our coasts from maritime invasion
Mr. CAPJI (whg) of Florida said 1t his intention
to address the committee the subject of the import
ancc of establishing line of steamers between this
country ana China but as was impossible ior hm TO
Mr.. TooNBs (whig) Of Ca said the House has not
time to consider the propositions Of the gentlemen from
Maryland and Tennessee therefore their ought
to be rejected 1t known to all that we have voted
million Of dollars for mail steamers, which, il sad
could easily be converted into steamers But now
carp hat we hay no
Mr.. STANTON of Tenn, said he had proposition from
of these companies to alter one of those ships and
put m armament and subject ner to test, condi
ton that If she proves inefficient she shall be thrown on
the hands Of the company and if efficient the govern
ment shall take her. This shows that the mail steamers
can be made efficient for purposes.
Mr.. TooNRs resumed, saying, we have no occasion for
SO large navy as the despo.isns OF Europe ior IN
Russia France and other countries they were in par
made use Of to keep down the people, We only wanta
to protect our and when It Is sough. to
compete with England the expense will be too great to
be borne, and the people will abolish IT,
Mr.. STANTON, Of Tenn, then moved to increase the pay
Of officers and to three million hundred and
twenty six thousand nine hundred and forty eight dol
lars, provided the number OF seamen in ordinary and
boys may be increased to nine thousand and the secre
of the navy may pay them at his discretion ten per cent
in addition to their present rate Of pay Mr. stanton
explained the amendment, and in the course of the
debate
Mr. FLORENCE (dem) of Pa spoke in its favor He
said that there is voice throughout the country In
sstng navy reform There should be less shore duty
and more sea duty. There are too many idlers--too
much old fogyism. lie wanted to infuse the spirit Of
Young America into that branch OF the public service
On motion Of Mr.. STANTON, (whis) of Ohio, that part
of the amendment increasing the number of
stricken out and the ten per cent feature retained
Mr. STANTON, of Tenn, offered an amendment, appro
priatng two million five hundred thousand dollars for
building, equpping, and arming three steamers with
propeers and three sloops of warat least two
Of the faes to be built by Capt Ericsson on his plan,
on such terms may be required by the President.
Mr. JOINS, (dem) of Tenn raised question that the
amendment was not in order the bill providing for
such objects only as are authorized by law.
The CHAIRMAN, pIr. freston King) decided it out Of
order, on tho ground that there was no law for IT,
Mr. STANTON, (dcm.) of KY, said that there Is law
establishing navy and the object proposed to con
sute part of the navy, therefore the amendment is
In order.
The CHAIRMAN, however adhered to his decision, and
was sustained By the committee.
Mr. STANTON Of Tenn offered another amen 1ment that
the President instead Of repairing old vessels for which
the bill makes appropriation, may in his discretion, ap
ply the money the construction of propeers Of an ef
fcicnt character.
The CHAIRMAN ruled this out Of order, and was sus.