The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-01-14

suspect should have quite enough TO do But The truth
s the moment the matter assumed my friend from H.
,inols Mr SHELDsl says, very lagrant attitude then
resolution i?r the purpose of getting al facts
aid u TWO days The information is brought before the
senate AS TO the existing state OF Belize, from the
ume OF the ratification OF this treaty until this matter
came Ip nave only paid general attention 10 the sub
Jecl nave seen II alluded TO In the newspapers but
wha he nature OF the jurisdiction exercised by the Brit
isn men was do not know. nor do know this day
sse 'aey nave mol yet gone and established colony,
heir own course. and 10 this day do not know whal
ka OF jurisdiction they claim to exercise. But know
now .ha, IN The face OF this treaty they went in July
aa', ana established colony IN the bay OF islands and
soon as did know that. proposed to call upon the
Executive Tor authentic information 10 the state OF
iacts. Wheeler or not they had occurred
MT DAVIS Will the honorable senator permit me to
ead 20 MN ihe treaty OF 1885, which defines these rights
WIN Tue utmost accuracy throughout
MI SAoS. II The senator wishes to read it, have no
opecups, except that am rather tespassing upon the
courtesy oil The honorable from New Hampshire,
Mr. HALcl who Welded the floor TO me- trust there
lore, PC VIII allow me to 20 on.
order aers Ne aoo as 70 .ssG.
Mr. CASS. The honorable senator is right; have
derake 10 do But had another reason for saying
word or two myself upon this subject now and il is IN
consequence OF an ansiol made by the honorable
tor from Maryland Mr. PEARCE1 TO another considera-
!ion and that is the origin OF this country AS have
before mentioned to the Senate. when of the
colonization OF these bay isands-n regard to which
obtained definite information until lately-l immedi-
aely brought the matter before the Senate by means of
resolution calling for Information What the re-
s9it OF that call As my honorable friend from Illinois
Mt SHiELDsl has SAID, the existing administration in
their reply sad and said very truly, that they knew
nothing about the matter But they said they sent us
copy OF an important document among the archives of the
country bearing upon this question They described that
document correctly il a very important document
and did bear upon this question. What was it? II was
sort OF supplementary quasi post ratification between
the Secretary OF State and the British minister restrict
ing and conning the and operation of this treaty
within narrower limits than know put upon it. and
narrower than think arge portion of the Senate put
upon II. We have the extract of a note from Col
King TO Mr. Clayton, saying that the Senate perfectly an
dersiood the treaty, and understood that did not include
British Honduras; have ventured TO say that did
not 80 understand it, and took it not only my right
but my duty, TO announce to The Senate and the
try that was not of those senators who put that
construction upon the treaty: Before did that, how
ever called matter of delicacy and proprety, upon
Colonel King, and consulted with him, and then came
here and gave what he said word for word stated ex
Nessy that Colonel King in his alluded only TO an
underlined right ON The part OF Great Britain 10 log
wood there he did not 20 into full consideration of
The matter with me, but said that in his view il was an
undenned night to cut logwood referred to some
marks that had made, and REFEREED for my own excul-
paop, you please so to consider il, show the fact
ne man iact wanted to establish in relation TO myself
lon OF this treaty with the understanding which Mr.
Clayton seems TO have had of IL crl
NOW, a lew words more upon the subject and will
shire, lMr, HALE The treaty comes before the Senate
purpolng to cede all dominion and jursdicoa rather
10 abJure all title Of Great Brpsn to any portion of Gen.
ral America Now, what is meant by 9 Central Amer.
ca" 1t is a geographical portion Of country Why
was it usedi Mr.. Clayton expressly tells you in
his letter that the term used in this treaty
at the suggestion of Lord Palmerslon. Now, why
Lord Palmerson wanted il used do not know.
But The result OF that is very clear and plain,
nat ihey are now setting up a pretended claim. |
which they would have sci up il they had not
lsed tins term Central America" and then con,ended
hat II did not embrace what it does embrace Uniortu
laely Lord Palmerslons suggestion was adopted, and
ended That the term Central America" means political
Central America, the States OF Central America com |
'osng that political division, Why, sir. you might
Is well talk about the States OF the Heparcby as
o talk about the States of political Central Amer.
ca. There were no such things as The States OF |
ienral America at that time. They had resolved !
themselves into their constituent elements, and The gen
'ral government, composed by their union for few
ears, had been destroyed had passed away they
lad become independent one OF another There was
uch thing as the territory OF the 'sStaes OF Central
America" Wha, right, then, had any man to say ths,
ms term designated political state of things which
lad ceased to exist for years We say iha, Central
America" means 1eog raphical Central America; and
epsa. again the question which no gentleman has an
wered 10 this day, and which say is unanswerable, ii
he term Central America meant The States OF Central
America, what be given TOR no, having said
in The ireaty II the general designation, The geo.
raphca term embraces larger extent OF country than
he Other, the political Term, embraces, then why was
nc treaty etW 10 US embracing Tue mt
Tor and not the major subdivision OF the continent, Why
nd The treaty not say the territory OF the States Of Cen
raj America, instead OF using another and equvoea
erms Why was not the former nsed showing the sense
be actual Interpretation 10 be put upon this treaty That
$ what | want TO know, and that is what no man has
lei told me. ...
Now, with respect 10 what has been said about what
included 40 thus treaty, understood 10 include Hon
iuIas and that Great Britain gave the sovereignty and
dominion over Honduras, That was my belief when
,geed TO ratiy the Treaty. As TO this right 10 cut log
WOOL If she bad any such right all, she had ii in sub
)rdnation 10 The jurisdiction of the country, and was
lahle, as understand il, though | have not looked
osely into that portion OF the subject TO have it ter
minated At any une; al any rate II liable TO the po
iucal government and luriadcon of the country aod
The herself had expressly renounced all dominion and
ursdicuon over H. That, understand, is also the view
II my honorable friend from Louisiana, Mr. SouLE.l
and when the honorable senator from Maryland Mr
ERcEl says that he does not any difference OF opn
on between the honorable senator from louisiana and
Iced. The honorable senator from Louisiana under
,ands Central America 10 all OF Central Amer
ca, and TO include all OF Honduras and no, to exclude
ha, subdivision which some maps Is called British
honduras. The term Central America includes Hon
uas-all of IL; and II IT excludes anything, IL merely
scudes the temporary right 10 cut wood there leaving
he general dominion and jurisdiction OF The country in
government other than the British government.
ewer has given up all dominion and jurisdiction over
hat portion OF this continent That my view when
before addressed the Senate, and that is my
Mr.. HALE. have hut very little to say but as de-
ire to say in order would be obliged to the Chair
tate what is The question before the Senate.
The PRESIDENT. There is no question before the