The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1853-10-30

and ability ana particularly judge, whose osS =
ing your book feel still embarrassed and am wholly
at loss to account for the phenomena which
regarded the matter Is unworthy Of serious attention but
your public adhesion to the creed entirely alters the
Judge-whst them
Reporter-I have TO get further light upon
the subject and would like very much to witness
OF the rappings and other phenomena.
Judge-But we cannot control thA spirits. They come
and 20 when they please As for the rappngs they
speaker suited the action to the wora and gave two dis
tnct raps the floor with his uckes and unless the
reporters imagination greatly deceived him. he heard
from the underneath It is the presence of an in
teigence that reveal your thoughts or
muncate what is going in the farthess parts Of the
EARTH in the spheres millions of miles distant
Mr. Bennett takes great interest in your book and
the progress Of the new faith He would be glad to have
the views of the spirits upon the affairs Of this country
and of Europe instance to the result of the quar-
rel about the spos in the democratic party and the
issue of the war between Turkey and Russia
A. The spirits do not trouble themselves much about
politics worldly affairs.
O. But if the spirits would tell us what |, now going on
in Europe what would be the upshot Of series Of
events that attracting the attention of mankind,
would not that go great length to spread fpirituasm
A. Not at all people who don't want to believe will not
believe from any amount of evidence day wit
ness in private stronger proofs than th,t yet they do
believe when Christ fed the five thousand with the Ave
barley loaves and two fishes, the multitude did not
believe not whsandDg all the miracles Of Christ and
his apostles the progress of Christianity very slow at
first besides with regard to future events the spirits have
only the same means of judging of them that have
ourselves unless that they highly developed spirits
they know the better than can and the eore
can form better judgement of the future spirituasm
making silent progress both in this country and in the
this city, and there million in the country at large
il revealed to by the spirits months before
hand that sprtualism would break out in Europe well
e, other
countries of Europe and it has found its way into
Asia the most intellectual and most learned be-
levers in it.
Q. shat the case heres
Yes; ifyou only what letters get from parts
papers, Of high positionyou would be astonished
in this city the most respectable and intelligent classes
have become converts
O. think the rapid sale of your book at dollar and
quarter per copy is proof Of thai have learned from
and Is likely to equal the sale of Uncle Toms Cabin?
A. Yes, they cannot supply the demand.
@ Would it not have been better to lave made it
A. That my opinion wished to have it sold at Af-
ty cents but for the FIRST 5000 copies the publishers
have agreement and reduce the price till after
that number disposed of; don't want to make money
OF it, but to difuse it among the people.
O. perceive 1t is but the first volume Is there
A. Oh, yes. Look at that pile of manuscript under
the table There is there than would make another
volume of the same sze Besides have materials for
still more
@ What is to be the nature of the second volumcG
A. 1t will enter more in detail into the occupations
and employment of the spirits in the spheres The pub
lie mind is hardly prepared for these revelations yet
There are some things have and heard that
dare not tell now becsuse we would not be believed
@. Is it not possible to account for the phenomena
mentioned in your book by referring them to the work
ings of the imagination?
all affected in the same way at the time? They
have said that my Imagination has become the prey of
mob bid melancholy account Of the loss Of my WIFE and
that this will account for what have and heard
candidly confess that wa, laborng under mental de-
preston about the time attention directed to the
subject But what has this to do with facts witnessed
equally by myself and Others? 1t IL useless to talk of
imagination when h7ow that what have been
versant with facts What mount of persuasion would
induce TO believe that not now looking at you?
Then, when we find such men Judge Fowler, OF the
Supreme Court Kentucky firm believers the ystem
from their own experience what other conclusion can
any rational mind to than that this Is tremendous
reality Judge Fowler called on me some month ago,
and conversed it'll him the subject and introduced
him to the circles He not only became convert but ia
now practising spitualism in his own family, members
of which mediums. You have seen Gov. Talmadge's
letters. The first time had any communication,
night when was lying in bed awake, reading.
not thinking the subject at all The manifestation
was as distinct to senses anything ever was When
my friend Isaac Hopper SICK called to him. and
on my way home visited medium and asked question
mentally about the health of Mr. Hopper and whether he
would recover. The medium answered he already
dead No present knew the question ask cd. vent
back and found friend dead His spirit has since visit
ed me. Where is the imagination in this? could
ton many oames Of persons in high station who be-
levers but for the fear of the rdicule with which they
been msrepresented in the Times and the Journal T Com
This is what destroys the influence Of the press
The Eysisg res is good paper Judge you for your
knowing in and it deserves investigation Unreasona
BILE tests ought not to be asked For instance, man
wrote TO to that it would have been better that
Bact and Swedenborg had communicated with me in
Latin, in which they wrote when living, that the public
have an es are fna hs
style of Bacon and swedenborsg
Q. should like very much to DO present at some Of
hasa c;r opdca md haar fnrp vsalf
A. We have private circles which are only for the in
itiated, and those somewhat developed There is pri
but there public circles where money is
charged There is Mrs. Cohen, Of White street, and
Mrs Brown, of West Twenty sixth street. at whose resi-
dences rappipgs and spiritual communications be
witnessed.
Q. And is money charged
A. Yes had to begin there and ploddng through
much that perplexing, worked my way upwards
1t requires vast amount of patience and perseverance.
know another LADY, Mrs Seymour ofsixth avenuewhs
curatey the character of any person whose handwriting
is enclosed in envelope many envelopes as
please, breaking the seal In every instance she
sdSseeds in this.
the interesting girl before referred to again entered
the room and handed the Judge newspaper in wrap
per- and retired On being opened found to be the
Spiritual Telegraph the organ Of the spirtualists, issued
by the parties who published Judge Edmonds'
book.
Q. All this is very wonderful, Judge, and want to
see it.
A. There are things more wonderful yet to be told
What would you think of chair running up stairss
gentleman few days ago told me that chair followed
him through every part of the room in which he was
and he then went stairs to it would follow him.
and it did, step by step.
q But can you rely on his telling you the TRUTH
A. (rather Indignantly the deuce motive could
he have in decsiving met have myself 4 chair
shooting the like rocket in the presence Of
large company Here the Judge took chair, and put
ting its back the floor described the motion 1t
would fly to the farthest end Of the ROOM and then
back towards me, with the speed of locomotive and
would inevitably have Off my legs did it suddenly
stop within an inch of me. Then. when l put
my foot upon it to hold it dowx, 1t darted away
from if impeed by Irresistible power
Here the Judge put his foot the chair and
showed how II slid from him, If by magic
Then again, short time ago, at of circles in
which in the habit OF sitting ia the dark box
of lucifer matches laid the table to the
trouble of lighting the candles when the nesting
Do. Of the ladies felt the table for the but
could not find them. Upon calling the spirits for
light unseen hand rapidly rubbed match against the
wall the man piece when 1t gnited and lighted the
c ndle. The whole circle then the box of matches
uck against the CEILING with three of them drop
tbcrc Had .lo