New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1853-01-13
xxxIID CONGRESS-. 90. SECOND Session.
SENATE. WASTING 7ox. Jan. II, 1853.

SENATE. w As.fiSC on, Jan Il, 1879.
The CHAIR laid before the Senate report in
respect 70 the resolution calling for estimates OF the COS.
Of 8 Branch Mint in California
Mr.. HoUsToS presented the memorial OF the
Stone MAscns on the Capitol setting form that they are
employed by Robert Strong, the SuPsrlnien lent OF
th1t work at g y day. and were pad ina, sum re-
lary but were compelled 70 pay over 70 SAID strong 81
erAy out OF this sum They make other charges sans
Strong. Referred
Mr.. F,sH presented a memorial from the
Chamber of Commerce Of New York. praying :1at GER
tain Illegal dute paid out not under written protest DC
refunded Also other petitions Of the same purpor.
Mr.. HArLIs reported bill allowing regis
ter 10 Hauoyerisn brig now owned in Newly ork wlich
wss considered and passed
MIR USpERwooD offered a resolution direct
ing an inquiry into the propnety of approprsting
sIOO 600 es fund 10 be used BY Government Ia nyest
rsfno frauds and peures arainstthe Government and
bringing offenders TO punishment Adopted
MIR. HUNTER reported back bill making
appropriations for Naval Pensions for the year ending
June 1854 which taken up and passed. M Hunter
also reported beck bill making appropriations for the
payment off invalid and other pensions for the year
ending Both June 1854. The bill was amended In date
and then passed
Dir. Cass's Joint Resolution, reaffrming the
Monroe doctrine, was postponed ill Tuesday mex:
Mr. CAss offered q resolution, calling Tor
correspondence relative to Squierss treaty WIN NcSr'
aqua &c Laid over,
Mr. SoULE resumed his speech commenced
on Monday.
Mr. SoULE said: When the other day the de-
bate was suspended he going 70 state the occur
rences which transpred in Executive Session upon the
ratfcati of the Treaty. BE thought IT, however, due
10 himself not 10 proceed do until he had ascer
tanned the of the Senate TO the proprety and
night of abiding 70 the secret proceedings aud the sem
sibiy which had been evinced aterward had but con
frrned him IN the wisdom and proprey Of that course
NOT that he spprehended any serious consequences
would result to the nation from any such disclosure
for indeed 10 th in many oher instances that which
is kept secret found when dyulged 10 be OF but little
importance sun was due to those who mad voted for
the Treaty that the reasons governing such votes should
90 forth the country. He had indicated on Monday
last the scruples which induced him 10 be dssatls-
fed with the wording Of the Treaty when informally
presented to the Senators, himself included, and also
how those scrupc had been met and answered He was
was not altogether satisfied with that answer and though
he felt the utmost confidence IN the then Chairman OF the
COMMITTEE on Foreign Relations, hepresumelto call the
attention OF the gentleman TO the questionable provision
Of the Treaty and the he receyedtrOm that
gentleman a few seconds alter an interview win Mr..
CLAYTON, were the same had formerly been given
When the Treaty before the Senate, ne felt 20
be his duty 20 state In debate the difficulties and
doubts which bad arisen in his mind on this point
although he intended rest his vote upon the intel
gence wisdom and learning OF those more competent 10
Judge OF such matters than he was and then was that
the Senator from Michigan used the language that
peyer before had Great Britain been known to surron
der dominion without war When he expressed the
doubts upon his mind 10 the effects OF those words
friend of his from the South but longer In the
Senate declared he had heard enough Vi H. and would
vote against IT, These assurances thus gwen and thus
repeated OF the true object OF the Treaty. were undoub
ecy the reason governing him well other Senator's
in voting for the Treaty.. He could hardly have sup
posed that there single Senator who voted Tor inc
Treaty but who supposed contained absolute renun-
citation by Great Britain Of all her nights end claim %
dominion in Central America IL there was one who
supposed It meant only TO relate 70 the canal
and contained Remuneration by Great Britain,
let that take the floor aud so declare himself.
He had seen in the newspapers a correspondence
going to show a discrepancy between Mr.. Kings letter
TO MI CLAYTON and what he had Just said the under
standing Of the treaty He did not so understand IL
II fully admitted and understood by all when the
Treaty under consideration thst its terms ala not
refer TO- interfere WITH the license, Tor that was the
proper term Of Great Britain 20 OgwoOd At the Belize
ana Mr. King in his letter merely refers 10 tins preca-
rious right or license 10 cut ogWoOd In Honduras ss
being in way affected by the Treaty. Mr. hing
does not mean that the claim OF Great Britain to
dominion in British Honduras is nos excluded
by the Treaty. for be expressly warns Mr. Clayton not
10 any words implying an admission OF any right 10
such dominion. Mr.. Kings whole letter amounts to
nothing more than that the Treaty does not abolish the
precarious license Of Great Britain to cut logwood in
Honduras Ii was remarkable fact that the CONVERSE
ton respecting the British Minister'S scrupe upon the
point Of national pride &c, took place some time atter
the Treaty had been sent 10 England ani had been SUI
pcrvsed By Lord Palmerston and that NOS TIL after its
ratification by the Senate did the British Minister deem
aDy explanation of terms 10 be necessary Butwrs he
thought easy what the object OF Great Britain may
have been. Forgetting the nature OF our Government
and III Institutions ana supposng the Minister OF State
possess powers unknown 10 or Consultation hut not
unusual they may have believed that by protocol the
two negOtiators could have changed the whole feature
OF the Treaty But such beyond the reach OF the
Secretary. No act OF his could affect the Treaty or
change lis purpose and objects from what Il was when
scaled and approved by the Senate. SO all that was
done by tire two negotiators was done beyond
the power given the Secretary BY the C0nstl.u-
ton and Of no force But supposing that the
n IT1ut 10
the operations Of the Treaty, the question naturally
ARISES what those rights were, thus renounced Al
hitting Great Britain TO have had rights, could not ne
denied but that she ha1 the faculty OF reuOuncng them
But leaving the Treaty aside altogether, Lex be seen
what the rights OF England are independent .. H. Ihey
had heard much about fbustering and naraudng, but
what was the history Of EnsGnd respecting these
islands, The Bay of Islands occupied peculiar and
int esiing position in the Caribbean Sea Spanish
writer At an early day pointed their importance In
1912 apaTty OF EnghfreeboOter took possession OF these
islands then beongugt 70 spain In Ills the SpanArds
made the attempt % gam possession CT them Jut found
them amere waste the English freebooters having des
troyed all the establishments they had found on the
island In l742, EnglEnd again attempted 10 seize
the whole coast Of Central America, and also these
Islands Theire OF Spain was aroused. she was then,
now, proud nation but she had then the ability 70
command respect and war ensued In lsb3, treaty
between England ard spain wa concluded, b.
the provisions OF which England was bound to
destroy all her fortiica.icns, &C, IN thst region
But England r,lying a secret reservation, denied
that Rustsn was Included IN the Treaty and kept that
islandfortifed War sSain ensued, during which Gust,
emsls seized Roatan. rev Treaty was made in l7s3
and spain desiring protect herself from any invasion
BY Great Britain provided that the British should sban-
den al Central America snd all Islands dependent T.
Great Britain thus. rs solemn Treaty surrendered all
her rights and claims 70 any part OF the continent and
the dependent islands; out stn notwithstanding this
Treaty England held fast TO her possession OF Ruatan
and IN l1o6 Spain pressed upon Engs what she
considered her rights, and tbs led to aao-aer
Tresty by which removed every difficulty
far the pretension OF England were concerned
By H. England agreed eyacuafe al her possessions
and ports on the continent ami on all Islands without
exception In 1876, war raging between England and
Spain this Treaty suspended, and the English again
resumed possession q Rua:An, BIZ; surrendered 20 an
officer sent there from honduras In leli new treaty
was made, which reafirned ard Incorporated witar Il
the veFv stipulation of the Tresty of 1880 ard one4
something has transpred since then the Engsh CLAIMS
10 dominion over these Islands have not shadow %
rghr After that these islands taken possession On
by he STATE of Honduras In ls43, Cornmodo6 NC
Donnel then commanding the British forces took poe
sesEcn II the Islands hauled down the hOndlFas -
and raised that OF EneSai nc rad, however scarce!
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