The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-04-02

was associated with. am willing give them liberal
compensation but IL miserable system Of paying them
about $50 900 the close OF ion the last
night OF a session. But it wtl never come TO end
Mr.. BADGER. wish 10 say one word about this "ast
time" to which seniors have tuded.
MFR. BUTLER. " Hencetorh," Laughter
Mr.. BADGER. Yes, sir "henceiorh - change tho
phrase. What the senator says correct but orge,s
part OF it, The from ludiana, IN his
seat Mr BRGfT at the session bsioe the last said no
would yield for that e but at the Of tho
next session he would introduce resolution for revising
and Increasing the salaries and he assured IT he did
ne should receive the entire support Of the Senate Ho
omitted al that session, and explained 10 me the
son, mat was not suitable time Introduce H. when
had adopted provision in the appropriation bill making
temporary increase Of the salaries of of The subordinate
employees OF the government That the why
he did not introduce it,
MIR CHASE opposed generally to this doctrine
OF henceiorth do not believe in explained
the other day by the senator from North Carolina My
opinion that that which fit 10 be done ALL ia lit TO be
done now and that whatever rgh should be insisted
q. a uhes policy rs exp9dent, ia eSpedont that 1t
rhould be carried out now ard at all times.
MY friend from North Carolina has said tlat this IL an
expiring system think IL Is wrong system and agree
IN that win The fom hnois and with the other
senators who have spoken upon he subject to-day II tits
wrong, should be discontinued know of no time 80
Tor IL disconnuauce as the present and therefore,
Tor the purpose OF testing the of the Senate upon that
desire TO submit this amendment.
Provided, That hereafter no allowance of any kind be-
officer OF the Senate
Mr. BADGER. Is it in order to move TO amend tina,
amendment
The PRESIDENT lis
Mr BADGER. Then move to add the words un-
less directed by The Senate" presume the honorable SEN
ator om ONO does not say, that if the Senate
should DIRE CT the payment of extra ao Wnnce The Com
tlee on Contingent Expenses shall not pay it, Now let
slook at this The amendment provides
that hereafter allowance shall be made Suppose
hat at The next session extra allowance ordered Tho
senator certainly does mean that ordered by the
Senate, and paid By the Secretary the contngen,
fund that he shaI the, 4,
means nothing but this: that allowance shall be-
paid unless the Senate direct IL means that say it,
submit the amendment make the provso consistent
with the state of the law.
Mr. CHASE. am quite aware that the Senate, at the
next session. may, If they choose, Notwithstanding hs
provlso grant The allowance; bur the object Of the
provso, suppose mistaken Ii to declare that
IN The judgment of the Senate the system wrong and
ought 10 be discontinued We have heretofore upon al
most every OCCASION is well known, when propositions
or granting extra allowance have been made, told
the last time. Now wish put upon that the
last time Veal know very we'll that it IS perfectly compe-
tent Tor the Senate at the ext session. they
rue rescnd The proviso They may make the allowance
without resembling but unless is adopted there will be
nothing To indicate that the understanding of the Sen
ate that this ought to be discontinued On the con-
trary if the poyso be adopted now my Judgment tho
system will be discontinued If it is adopted the Sem
ate IN effect that the system shall be continued hope
the senator from North Carolina inasmuch he says his
amendment will not affect the all, will pre-
Mr.. BADGER think my proposed amendment does
affect the case greatly for the amendment of the honorable
senator, as II stands declares that payment shall be
made whether directed by the Senate Undoubtedly
that Is So Tor says no payment shall be made without
any qualification whatever. Now, deny the p,wer of tho
Senate 10 do that and deny the PROPHECY Of DONG it, IT,
the says does mean that why not make il
speak what 1t Goes that payment shall be made
hereafter unless the Senate direct ~ think he admits TIM,
II the Senate does direct it the payment be made II
is mere bruum flu TO put there declaration that
shall be made hereafter of any allo vance or
,mpensaion, when the knows perfectly well that
# the povso adopted the extra allowance made #
the Senate choose and If made will be paid the manner
which II has been done heretofore Therefore think
order that may stufy ourstves by undertaking
by the prosso hands we ought TO adopt NV
amendment. sdmit that alter The amendment TO tho
amendment adopted 1t will present rather
spec ace bat not naf extraordinary the amendment
shape. Ii is amendment of
purpose 1t is not amendment decaraoty of the nter
judgment of the Senate; IL is pcrempiory and
mandatory provso that hereafter additional compensa
ton shall be paid. Whom does II mts Ii proposes
limit somebody Ii 1T limits anybody be the Seoate
for nobody else has assumed any authority order pay
but the Senate Ii is SAID that do pretend TO
limit the Senate Then say expressly upon the face Of
the amendment
Suppose he honorable senator should add proviso to
bill relating salaries of off GERS hereafter salary
should be paid any offer greater the salary allowed
that bi when the officer could salary except
under that or some susequeot gw Does the senator
that II would vain and nugaoryi about
this natter and should be very sorry such provs1
appended 10 the resolution think places the Senate
very absurd position IL the word 'shan as applied
The Senate souebody else II is admitted that nobody
has any thing do with but the Senate and undertakes
to say that the Senate hereafter shall not do particular
thing We thus undertake only that shall
do II but hat Sc hereafter snail do
the proprety oft believe, myself that when the Com
mee ReirenQhment reports at the session, tn
system they report will be and that will put end
this business But would rather system should
nue forever than adopt such provso proposed by
the senator from Ohio.
MIR CHASE. Every law il subject repeal every rule
is subject alteration. The Senate, IL they A. may
proceed in disregard Of their rules by unanimous consent
They disregard law which they Impose upon them
selves except by unanimous IL is that this
amendment will become the rule of the Senate unlesl
pealed aside by unanimous 1herc, re
desire its adop ion because know will constitute rule
and because Know that unless adopted shall continue
be oupdn precisely the he last night
Of last session. and the appeals will be made to and
shall he under the duross of which senator's have com
planned.
offer the amendment because think is right and be-
think is due that should this sys
tenn. ! have complaint make Of who differ
with me, and who regard THE fit and proper system.
The honorable nom North Carolina has said frank
ly and explicitly that he approves the system itself Now
the Senate approve the system ITSELF they will show IL
by their yoe addirg 10 my amendment the amendment
which he proposes, and thereby reduce 70 nuty ~ on
the contrary the Senate Of opinion that the system should
be discontinued and with that and do not con-
curwith the from Moth Carolina they VIII REJECT
his amendment and adopt II is simply question oil
difference policy. an unfortunate ~ differing wan
for whom have great respect but diefing as
do from him, think proper and feel bound to present
the We've which encrtaia the subject
Mr.. BADGER. wish to correct one error INTO which the
senator has fallen Although have been friend Of that
svstem and tnk the best do not choose TO stand IN the
ntdude or opposition the of the Senate, f change
il Determined UPON am willing that the salaries should
be revised that this syscm shall be discontinued,
benuse think is wrong because do think il IL