The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-01-28

were renowned in those treaties aud belong 10 Cen,,
America and probably 10 that portion OF them called Tie
Now. sir, | want to have these facts aseertained 4
wish to have reliable report, from or other
which shall determine whether we correct In this
supposihon and IL IL turns out To be true that these Is
lands, that are claimed colony, part and
portion OF Honduras, OF Of tho Mosquito coastfor both
we're alike recommendation apprehend Great Britain
has no title 10 them whateverhat they were portion
OF the territory over which she renounced all sovereign
ty and that they did belong what is called CenrsI
America that U.s. they were part and portion OF the an
cient Kingdom Of Guatemala
am therefore, like the senator from South Carolina
[Mr BUTLER, in favor OF referring this subject to tie
committee in order that they may present 10 the facts
which belong IL; and when they have presented Them
can then get tangible subject 10 act upon. And
think, as other gentlemen do, that this IS subject of
good deal OF Importance for II what suppose here To
be turns 10 be so. then great question arises
upon this ueay-whelher or not Il has not in its very
terms, been violated That is The subject with which
have 10 deal There can be no question that where
there has been governmental opinion between us and
Great Britain, IL is an important question. The dignity
and the character and the OF each OF the Two
tries make ii important
But. sr do wish to make any mistake in this maj,
ter. desire, when move in il, to understand
ngy and there has been colony organized contrary
10 the terms OF that reaty-as am rather disposed 10
think there is-then am willing for one, TO meet thar
question in a way and manner which becomes the dig
niiy honor and character OF the country. IL seems
me that we cannot approach this subject understand
ngy until such times we have this information. |
shall therefore cheeriuly, believing be altogether
the best course vote for the reference OF this question
TO the committee But i the chairman OF that con
mee desires 10 make his remarks before the commits
nent is made, ! shall not mlerpose any objections;
though think IL is obviously and for many reasons,
better that he should reserve them
Mr.. BUTLER. So DO I.
Dir DAVIS. Ii is better, ia my opinion that he
should take The subject mp in the committee, and then
speak 10 us on Il In the Senate believe ihet will he
the better course for all OF US.
MIR. CASS- Mr.. President, desire 10 say word
Thirty years ago Mr.. Jefferson said tina, this question
Of European influence was the most momenous ques
ion that presen,ed TO him since the 4h of
Juy, l776. II is Iust as momenious now was Their
But what wanted was. to correct the idea that GER
teen seem 10 entertain that this ia an abstract pin
cple. | consider II OF the practical prir-
cpies ever presented TO American Congress-praci-
cal IN lis important application from day TO day,
guide 10 the Executive upon great questions No prir-
cpe be practical, and that will be brought
more into use from day 10 day, in my opinion. II is
entirely misapprehenson that il is abstract prnc
pie.
And allow me to say, with reference what said
by the senalQr iron useiis~tr DAvlsl that
cannot for my e understand lie need Of reference Il
these resolutions to committee These resolutions have
reference a colony in the Bay Islands, or any other
place They assert great broad principle; and whether
the British have night to establish colony there
not, whether they have not, perfectly inmate
rial The principle IS the same, everlasting in its ne
ture and the resolutions only propose to do what Mr.
Jefferson insisted ought 10 be done in 1888 repeat that
the resolutions do not refer 10 the fact OF the establish
men OF colony in the Bay Islands, but the assertion
of great principle, and every gentleman here who is
willing now 10 say that that shall be the principle OF the
American government is prepared TO vote Tor tnem ard
Committee on Foreign Relations can touch that principle
II remains everlasting and the After you have
.aolIshsd The principle apply i to your cases as they
arse but before The question arises ascertain the facts
But what objection there be 10 the establishment Of
the principle now or what reference has to any nd
vidual case, certainly cannot understand
MIR. DAWSON. Mr. President. desire to be heard
my sell upon this question at proper time; and let
say that am llt;le surprised that the asnslor from
Michigan lHr. CAss,l who speaks upon this question
often, and interestingly should say that there was
no necessity OF having practical question &C, upon
Now as understand IL, these resolutions founded
upon facts supposed to exist OF the formation OF certain
colonies within the limits OF Central America and hence
the propreiy OF the introduction OF the resolutions Now
the growing out OF the introduction OF these
resolutions are vastly mpoant and already they
assuming, SIR very porteRtous aspect Why, Ian
has been uttered here to-day that well caIcua-
ted to strike the minds of the American people The
chairman OF the Committee on Foreign Relations, fNlr
Mason, man above all others whom we look for
information upon foreign AFFAIRS has uttered words ami
sentences here that will be noticed hrong the
civilized world He has stated in the first place, that
colonization has iaken place IN the Bay Islands and
the Belize, He believes II 10 be II that be irue MIR
President must be discontinued Hence, all the facs
De true, action, action becomes necessary What action
Congressional action
Mr.. HALE, I'm his seat) War
Mr.. DAW sun War. IN the language Of the peace
abiding gentleman from New Hampshire. AIR Hale
be able TO place ourselves the language OF my friend
from Massachusetts, [Mr DAVIS upoa firm ground,
and move not only nnders,andng'y, but firmly towards
what Towards The consequences, whatever they may
be Hut the chairman of the Committed on Foreign Re
aions proposes to-day defer This subject till next Mon
day. IN order that he be heard for hour
most important questions, without the presentation OF
single TACT arising out of the of the Pres
dent oil the United States and when his speech shall
have been made under these circumstances what becomes
OF ihe elereace 10 the OF the President of
United States, and where is The presentation oil facts go
before the country upon which are finally 10 act
Nowhere. maintain, MIR. President tina, these fibus
uef resolutions IN relation 10 foreign affairs
hle with the dignity OF the body upon an occasion like
his MAINTAIN that we should neve. deal in abstrae-
tons, aud declare what shall be- and what shall not be-
when we intend 10 act upon facts already asceained
or supposed 10 be ascer,ained. Let us call upon
Committee on Foreign Relations TO lay before this
BODY all the facts connected with the cooniz in
Sentiai America, whether in Honduras any
other part or section OF that country. And when
these iacts shall be presented sufficiently then
can act correctly What do we now know about the
maiIerf What does any senator know about III
The President tells stated by the chairman OF the
Committee on Foreign Relations, that he has facts
upon which be can communicate anything. The CHAIR
man then must do The best he and ii out that
no facts establish ne position that organiz atien or
colonization has taken place, what IL the result, Why
that that question IL settled But If il be true that it,tt
iaken place give the facts then Monroe doctrine
viii come To- and come in "a intended come in
by The distinguished senator from Michigan. founded
upon the idea that this colonization had already taken
place. though The iact was not officially ascealned lie,
Va get The othcal Information, and then act upon H.
Now, what Is the question growing out OF these oh.
servalons' Let these resolutions be laid upon the ia.
bie--ihese distractions, this reafhrnaon of the Monroe
doctrine, which. although introduced by wsy OF