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Cues. Repeat what be said about establishing
himselfin trade?
| Ans. He mentioned design or intention OF es
tabishing himself in the trade. He mentlons'
that he had spoken the subject to persona IN "a
port of Mazatlan, and he mentioned, think, tina
| it was at the house of Mott, Talbot q 20
Ques Do you know whether OF NOV ne ~as
dentist!
/ Ans have no positive knowledge OF the TACT
but it was the general opinion that ne was neve
him aDoctor'' and "Don Gorge (the Spanish TO
/ Georpe.1 and ssGardiner.'' recolect the pro
nunciation of Gardiner very well. The Mexican
/ pronouncedit Gar-de- nay err.
CUES What was it he said about going to Soutf
America and trading up the Gulf
! Ans. He mentioned desire OF going to South
America, purchasing goods there, and bringing
them up the Mexican coast for sale
! CUES. Tell us something about his getting tn,
means for that purpose?
/ Ans. He said that to carry on the trade profit
ably, it would be necessary to have more means
| than he possessed.
/ CUES And he said he was going to San BIAS?
/ Ans. He mentioned that he going to Topic
| there to converse with merchants upon the cub
ject of his project in trade, to if any and hal
arrangement could be made From there he in
tended to 60 to San Bias, he said, and embark tt
South America.
/ Cues. Can you recollect whether or not tn.
| United States ship Cyane was there at that time
| or about that time?
the port of Mazatlan; went on board of her.
/ Mr.. BRADLEY. That ia not the question.
| Mr.. May. The question is whether she was there
| at the time you had this interview with Or. Gard
i liner?
Witness. She was there about that time; can
| not state precisely the day went nm board til,
Cyane. went on board with some ladies'
/ CUES. Who commanded the ship?
| Ans. do not remember the commander.
went on board the Savannah frat, by invitation o
/ Commodore Sloat; and while on board that vesse
we were invited to go on board the Cyane the sam,
day. The two ships were lying close together.
Ques Did Gardiner appear to be changed in ap
pearance when you met him on board the Britisst
| packet Trent?
Ans. did not notice any very great change il
him. His beard appeared to be longer than hae
been in the habit of seeing him wear it in the por
of Mazatlan, and he looked little thinner, think
His face was very near the same now. His fac,
now perhaps has little de per rcd than it had a
that time,
Cues. Did you observe his complexion on th,
British packet?
Ans. His complexion on the British packet wa
pale 1t indicated that he had been i'll or sea sick
or something. .s-
CUES. Have you visited the State of San Lui
Potos? -........ a.s
4Ans Yes. l have.
CUES. Have you visited the city of that narne9
-Ans have.
Cues. When?
dns We went there in November, 1851.
| By Mr.. BRADLEY You say s'we" went VIII,
| was with you?
Ans. went up in company with Mr.. sacun
from Washington.
By Mr MAY. You remained with Mr. Slacun
| while there and returned with him? -.
| Ans. Yes. .ar Z.
Ques In what character did you go?
Ans. went as secretary or clerk to Mr.. Sla
cum. "
CUES Mr. Slacum went there as a commissions
| of the United States Government?
| Ans. Yes; on the Mexican commission.
| CUES Can you tell me the distance from Sar
Luis Potosi to Queretaro?
| Ans. l have always understood it to BIO sixty
leagues.
Cues. How far is it from the city of San Lui
Potosi to Guanajuata? <.
| Ans. do not know. 49,. -a
CUES. Do you know how far it is from Quere
| taro to Guanaiuata? e
| Ans. 1t is one days journey in a diligence
thirty leagues, or about ninety miles.
Cues What is the distance from Guanajuata tc
Guadalajara? .-
| Ans. 1t is about three days. journey in a dill
gcnce; calculate distances in Mexico by days
| journeys.
Cues. And then how far is it from Guadalajars
| to Mazatlan?
| Ans From Guadalajara to Topic it is five days
journey horseback; calculate fifteen lea CUES
| upon the average. for days journey upon horse
back, which makes Is leagues; from Topic t.
Mazatlan it is seven days journey-about lOs
leagues; never travelled upon that road but it il
always called seven days. journey by travellers in
Topic.
| CUES. What is the most direct and most usu.
ally travelled road from Mazatlan to San Luis Po
| tosi?
| Ans The easiest road perhaps would be little
further than the most direct routes the best would be
decidedly by way of Topic, and from Topic to G ua
dalajara, from uadalajara to Guiana and from
there to San Luis Potos; or to Queretaro, and
thence to San Luis Potosi Witness here reca
pitulated the distances from place to place as
given above, and continued y The distances, |
/ X me- hu
passes on the map; we take the travellers way
of computing them-so many leagues on no Sc
back and 30 many in diligence; we always tax
them to be correct, allowing little more or less
treaty map of Mexico on file in the State Depart
ment, and calling his attention particularly to the
region of Mexico just described.) wish to ask
you whether, from your recollection of the topo-
graphy of the country, you consider the location
of these places on this map perfectly correct?
Ans. They are perfectly correct, and the direc-
tons are correct, according to the best of my
| knowledge. .a..-
Witness further explained the map, and va
rious positions, routes, and distances
Cross .ezamination Of Mr.. Bo.oes.--Mr. BRADLEY
At what point did you enter Mexico?
Witness. ! entered Mexico at Matamoros and
then went over northern route across the coun
try, by way of Monterey and Saltillo, to Du.
range.
CUES. At what time were you at Durango?
Ans. think it was eight or nine months after |
arrived in Matamoros. / arrived there in Novem
| Der or December.
| Cues. Of what year?
-Ans. The year 1912, think. AZ have not my
| note book, cannot state positively.
CUES. From the month of November or Decem-
| Der, 1912, eight or nine months brought you
| down to August or September, 1843?
Ans. Then took one month more at Mon
terey, and on the journey in passing to Durango,
| for the purpose of looking round the country. -
| Cues. Then you arrived at Durango some nine
| or ten months after arriving al Mata moros?
Ans. About that. do not recollect how long
stayed there.
| Cues. At Durango?
| Ans. Yes, sir; cannot tell.
| Cues. Did you ever return to Durango after leav
ing it?
| Ans. No, sir. .s r.sr..y..
Cues. How long you stayed there you canno.
say?
| Ans. cannot say. ...... .. ..-
Cues Do you recollect whether you spent the
| winter there?
44ns. l do; remember it raned very much
while / was there. 1t was in the winter of l843
| and 1914.
| CUES. What time did you leave Durango?
| Ans. cannot tell precisely; but l think left
in the summer Of 1874, to go to Ell Parral
Cues. Was it in the summer of 1874?
Ans. think it was will depend upon you to
make the calculation.
CUES. Thence you went to Guadalupe Hidago?
Ans. went to Ell Parral. stayed there two OF
| three months. was there in the fall; and rather
| late in the fall started to Guadaiune Hidaloo