The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1853-03-26

and laid tables when tho Collins matter unde
consideration. 10 unanswerabe and any gentleman who
reads that argument will convinced nom tho reasoning
there adopted. that this Is erroneous policy.
But, air. am much convinced the honorable
tor from California be, that this TO be line OF great
commerce eventually It's not large now but think that
developing themselves rnpidy 10 show
that the the Pacific coast OF the United
States and the of Asia be large one but this
moment II has not become sufficient Justify such
lay as this proposes rise chiefly throw
for the consideration Of the honorable Of this amend
ment that II he to get anything that be carried
into effect II would be better take less pensiye
There will be competition OF other routes from
San Francisco TO the of Asia there will
competing line got by any foreign power. There might
be class OF propeers put there by which the expense
transporting the mail would be reduced reasonable rate
and would be transmitted within few days, rap
IDLY as by such large steamers go the Atlantic
ocean. Why, sir, no gentleman who has not looked into
this subject comprehend the expense created by high
speed. Mr. Collins told me himself last summer when
this subject under considerations that the fuel and the
wear and tear OF machinery necessary these large
to gain single day her voyage TO Europe,
east $4,000 quote him authority for IT, and he said
that the books would show and he gave prove
that that the fact IL is notorious fact that great
speed and great rapdity by is attained in
crease Of expense. BY propelers you could
from California to China, and transmit intelligence, within
few days, quick by the expert steamers and
you could do for comparatively very moderate expense
My own belief is that this line should be commenced E
propellers OF moderate size, which couple utility in
heghung with very good and satisfactory degree of des
in which II should be begun that will both aid the
merce of the country and give despatch the mails II
some such plan that proposed think should be
wiling TO vote for 1t but not prepared TO lay out
$500 900 100000 year, for the transmission Of the
mail from San Francisco to the of Asia The time
has not yet come for that will come by and by, but
not now
MIR. GWIN. am perfectly willing that the amendment
suggested by the honorable from
lMr DAvis shall be Incorporated into my amendment and
tha III phnnh
ordinary side-wheel steamships. do intend
the time of the Senate this hour Of the session.
cause know that II is wrong to do even SO impor-
tant measure this. The senator from Virginia Mr..
MAsoN is mistaken when he says this is proposition
commerce. and where it does already exist
commerce does exist between California and China
greater than between China and the whole United States
four years ago. There is already immense commerce
there The mails from the East Indies end from China
not only for this country but for Europe, would be
mitted by this line If establish particularly if there
u connection by telegraph from Acapulco to Vera
Cruz. We could run down from San Francisco to Aca-
pulco in days, and from Acapulco New Orleans by
telegraph, and steamers news could be transmitted in
or three days-so that we could have very quick
muncation through country between Asia and Europe
If we had this line of steamers
Ii had time go into the quesonand sorry that
have mott could show that the important results
would follow the establishment of closer and more intimate
commercial and postal arrangements between California and
China and Japan. The which will spring up be-
the United States and those will be i'm
mense, and we should encourage It in every way in our
power.
With regard to what the senator from Virginia said that
this line asked for purely commercial purposes and
for postal purposes have only to that the Senate has
already passed similar bill connecting the United States
with foreign country. aue to the line from New Or
leans to Vera Cruz Now, what the receipts of post
ages from that line What the receipts at the time
the bill was passed by the Senate without opposon'
am sorry to say that the analogy perfect but the treat
of The propositions the Senate very different
Mr.. BELL. | want to ask The honorable senator from
California why he does ngra upon his amendment the
amendment To which he aiudes!
Mr.. GWlN. In regard to propees'
MIR. BELL. Yes, sir.
Mr.. GWiN. am willing to do 80.
Mr.. BELL want to know of the honorable senator,
of who does know, whether gentleman has not
made proposition carry the mail this line
for onc-half the estimated value the hostages alone
Mr.. GWlN. never heard of it,
MIR BELL. That 10, taking period Of ten years. and
he Will Iage propelers, side-whee
steamers, for one-balf the posi- ages
Mr.. CHOPPER To whom DO you refer
Mr. BELL. To Ambrose w. Thompson.
Mr. COOPER He has made such proposition
Mr. SoULE. For the whole of the hostages, not the
halt.
Mr. BELL For the whole of the hostages; but I'M
dersand that he asks advance the ships Of onhaf the
estimated amount of postage for the purpose Of building
them.
Mr.. COOPER Yes, sir
Mr. BELL My attention has been attracted to the sub
ect and have been struck every gentleman who looks
INTO must be struck with an idea OF the great develop
Of trade and intercourse which the OF
line would promote between the shores Of Asia and the
western OF this connect it my
mind with great many other subjects should like to
the experiment made upon many grounds agree with
the senator from Massachusetts that would not be willing
vote very large sumfor the purpose thus early and be-
fore know something Of the value of that commerce
But certainly would agree to such proposition as that
submitted by the capitalist to whom have alluded BY
way Of experiment, would go considerable way to see
what would be the result of line of communication between
San Francisco and the of Asia. great many gentle
of knowledge upon the subject than pretend
possess that will reverse the course OF uade and not
only of trade bu, of postal communication between the
East Indies asd the OF Europe, by connection with
eegraphc line part OF this connent and that
when get such Inc completed all communications and
commercial of other descriptions, will be d
recty from the sections of the continent of ASIA and
the Islands Of the East this continent TO Europe
We do know very much about these matters, yet
think reasonable calculate that the benefits OF this
line will be much larger than gentlemen anticipate who have
not looked into the subject would say the from
California, why not adopt at proposition reason
able that presented by the gentleman to whom have al
luded from Philadelphia who proposes establish the linc
build steamships Of large burdens upon the ad
of oHe-ha the estimate hostages which may be de-
rived from the line, the estimate be made by officer of
the govenment-the Postmaster Generall He offers to
take the compensation OF the hostages alone and not ask
the advance Of one dollar OF money. think that II isa fair
proposition.
Mr.. JONES' Of Tennessee. In erder TO test this ques
on offer the proposition alluded to by my colleague
amendment TO the amendment
MIR. GWIN. was about to withdraw my amendment
Mr.. JONES. Then, OF course shall not propose mine
GWfN. IL is my duty, 81 member Of the Committee
Finance press forward the business the apPropr
ton bills. know that that responsibility is upon me, and
know that the chairman Of that committee Is almost inn
pa en with regard the discussion questions Of this
description. know the importance Of the which
have proposed, but | determined not to press II any
further 1.-THE amendment Of the senator from Tennessee
introduced know there will be long discussion upon
IT, because that H. in principle the which meets with
rush na