Gallipolis journal. [volume] (Gallipolis, Ohio) 1837-1919, 1852-02-19
Published by James Harper.l
N. Ko..u.h and mr. clay.

4 1AS iNPOiI % vi IL hhtuOitO Si'Ch
| the public have been somewhat mac
curate, and, al the best, imperfect
The National Intelligencer publish
} es the following correct account:
The company present on the occa
sion consisted Of Senators Cass, Jone
OF Tennessee, Mr.. Fendall. OF thi
city, and the Hon. Presley Ewing
OF Kentucky. 80
The last named gentleman had
been induced, at the Instance OF sew
eral persons, and with the consent o
Mr.. Clay, TO give a more extended
and careful report of the interview
and especially Of Mr.. Clay's remarks
which we publish below, and which
may be regarded as authentic, having
besides the autority of Mr.. Ewing
the sanction of Senator Jones, by
whom the report has been examined
and approved. -
NJ. hossuth was introduced by
Mr.. Cass at about 8 O'Clock.
On being presented 10 Mr.. Clay,
who rose TO receive him, "Sir," said
he, 81 thank you for the honor o.
this interview"
81 beg you to believe" said Mr.
CLAW, inieIrupting him, "that il is
who am honored. Will you please
10 be seatedl"
After the mutual interchange OF
civilities, 81 owe you, sir" said Mr..
Clay, "an apology for not having
acceded before to the desire you
were kind enough TO intimate more
than once, TO see me. But really
my health has been so feeble that |
did not dare TO hazard the excite
ment OF so Interesting an interview.
Besides, sir" he added with some
pleasantly, "your wonderful and
fascinating eloquence has mesmerized
so large a portion Of our people,
wherever you have gone, and even
some of our members OF Congress- y
waving his hand toward two or three
gentlemen who were present, "that
| feared to come under its influence,
lest you might shake my faith in some
principles in regard TO the foreign
policy Of this Government which ]
have long and constantly cherish.
ed.
And in regard TO this matter, you
will allow me, hope, 10 speak with
that sincerity and candor which be-
comes the interest the subject has
for you and myself, and which is due
TO US both as the votaries of freedom.
| trust you will believe me too, when
| tell you that | entertain ever the
liveIiest symPathies in every struggle
for liberty, in Hungary, and in every
country. And in this, believe, |
express the universal sentiment Of
my countrymen. But, sir, for the
sake of my country, you must allow
me TO protest against the policy you
propose to her. Waving the grave
and momentous question of the right
of one nation 10 assume the execu-
tive power among nations, for the
enforcement of IFS international law,
or of the right of the United States
to dictate to Russia the character OF
her relations with the nations around
her, let US come at once to the prac-
tical consideration of the matter.
You tell US yourself, with great
truth and propriety, that mere SYM
paihy, or the expression of sympathy
cannot advance your. purposes
You require material aid. And in
deed tits manifest that the mere dec
laraIion OF the sympaty Of Congress,
or of the President, or OF the public,
would be of little avail, unless we
were prepared TO enforce those dec
larations by resort to arms, and un-
less other nations could see that pre-
paration and determination upon our
part. Well, sir, suppose that war
should be the issue Of the course you
propose 10 US, could we then effect
any thing for you, ourselves, or the
cause Of libertyl To transport men
and arms across the ocean in suffi.
civnt numbers and quantities 10 be
effective against Russia and Austria
would be impossible. 1t is a fact
which perhaps may not be generally
known, that the most imperative rea-
son with Great Britain for the close
of her last war; with US, was the i'm
mense cost Of the transportation and
maintenance of forces and the NUM-
tions. of war on such distant thea
ire, and yet she had not. perhaps
more than thirty thousand men upon
this continent at any lime. Upon
land Russia is .invulnerable to US, as
we are to her. Upon the ocean, a
war between Russia and this country
would result in the mutual annoy
ance 10 commerce, bnt probably in
little else, learn recently that her
war marine is ssuperior 70 that of any.
nation in Europe. except perhaps
Great Britain. Her. ports are few,
her commerce limited: while we nm