The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-07-20

law We make appropriation 10 commence that work,
what discretion has he in relation TO il when he has
once signed thai law and is bound 10 execute il
But am unwilling Tor the present al least TO assume
that under any such obligation. II is question
which do not care now 10 PREJUDICE. am willing when
il up fairly 10 consider that question | am will
ling 10 my opinion u then but do mol wish
10 be forced IN this manner 10 PREJUDICE That question:
Therefore il that desire Ia have the words retained
which put ia by the Senate Tor the very purpose OF
excluding The idea that under any obligation 10 re-
Mr. RUSK, / do moi think solitary appropriation
has passed this body without the stctes nvesga
ton, extend the protecting hand OF this government to
The citizens OF Texas agans, NE iadan iioes-agalns
depredaons not committed BY the Indians belonging 10
Texas, but depTedaons that have been committed by In
dams that by the policy OF this government and IN the
teeth of their solemn treaties, been forced upon US
stale the fact that this government has violated the
solemn obligations oil the treaty. and forced most danger
and troublesome tribes OF Indians upon the frontiers
into the Territory OF Texas and from them there has
been suffering on the frontiers than from all the
other tribes together nay the have not only
done that but they have paid them ten thousand dollars
annuity year. which furnished 10 them IN arms and
ammunition, which they used upon the deienceless women
and children in the State OF Texas. And sir here, when
appropriation OF the tning sum oil $25, IS asked
10 be placed at the discretion Of executive ocer OF The
government Tor the purpose oil removing the lnlans from
Texas, metaphysical Arguments TO be brought forward
TO show that II Is incpfng an oDgauon upon the part OF
the government OF the United States to remove all The
Indians Wherel No obligation IS incurred. An APP
preparation Of 25 900 is TO be expended under his drec
lion in bringing about this desirable object
The honorable senator from Virginia Mr. HUNTERl
chooses TO say that the Indians belong 10 Texas They
belong much to the United States and more than to
Texas Even the Indians about whom he seems to en-.
terrain much aarIn- mean the Cumanches and other
tribeshave their home if they have any, chiefly upon
the territory acquired by the United States from Texas
They make but few trips now down into portions now
belonging TO the State OF Texas. Thor principal range
is in The territory; and the senator deslrous by his
OF reasoning, not only TO turn the Caddoes the
Cherokees the Shawnees and all upon the Territories,
but he is not willing 10 assume the responsibility OF keep.
ing them out after he has obtained entire jurisdiction oil
he iaGt aa IanHNu
belong. IL bis objection 10 The amendment OF the
House OF Representatives Involves suspicion which the
words OF that amendment will not bear, ana lot winch
they do not appear to me 10 furnish the slightest 1ounda
Mr.. HUNTER The senator from Texas has intro.
duced two or three issues which it seems do not
belong TO this amendment all The first is in relation
the treatment OF Texas by the United States. Sir,
not that the United States had dealt very
hardly, very unkndy, churlishly towards Texas
But il that question ever to come up and II the senator
insists upon making it, hope he will do i upon some
other occasion and upon some other Dill ior nave no
sort of doubt he chooses TO enter into an INQUIRY ne
will ind that he has not quite so much cause OF com.
plant be seems 10 think he has. He says tina, am
unwilling 10 relieve Texas from the pressure OF In
dams whom the United States by their conduct have
forced upon them. Why does he say SO What
warrant has he for that assertlon see nothing IN this
amendment which provides for the withdrawal OF all the
Indians for whom the United States responsible who
have ntruded do cot say that the United States may
not at some future day enter into that very question: or
the responsibility OF providing place OF refuge
for the Indians in Texas All said was. that not
willing to PREJUDICE that question by giving such shape
TO this amendment would force US to assume that obl
CATION; for not convinced that it is obligation Of
the United States has the senator from Texas as yet
asserted that it Obligation OF the United States
provide for the removal OF those Indians whose home
is in Texas. He has said what admit and what will be
provided for in this amendment If 1t be retained IN its
original shape, that bound to save them from the
intrusion OF these Indians belonging TO the Territories OF
the United States and which the United States have
exclusive guardianship. apprehend he would find It a
very embarrassing question II he were TO attach to the
fhpsa
Indian tribes in Texas and giving 10 them all the rights
in relation 10 them within the jurisdiction OF his State.
which would follow ii such an obligation existed
But, as said before that is question which do not
wish now TO pass judgment upon, and which IT is not
necessary 10 pass Judgment upon The particular evil OF
which he compansthat OF the intrusion OF the United
States Indians upon Texas-l am willing to afford
edy for. This amendment, il now stands, does pro-
vide it but am unwilling 10 go further.
The senator from Texas objects that metaphysical
gumens have been used against the claims OF Texas II
the claim OF Texas is restricted to what he has asserted
the removal OF the intruded lndans-then have used
no argument against his claim. admit IL, and am will
ling to provide for it, Neither have argued that other
question which have said not willing to go into
but apprehend henever il does come up, let him
take which side he may either for against II, that he
will find very difficult 10 offer other Than metaphy
arguments in relation 10 il.
MIR RUSk. The honorable senator charges me with
raising the question which he himself raises II is the
very thing have complained Of, he raises it himself by
saying that the government OF the United States, by
king this appropriation for negotiation with the Indians
IN regard 10 removal assumes right TO take away the
Indians from Texas and control them. He the gentle
man who raises that proposition and objects 10 my
swer. In the FIRST place, say such obligation is in.
CURED at al-not the sligbtest-in the amendment il
passed the House II appropnates money for the removal
OF the Misunderstanding more.
Now, | will state the case and see how long be would
argue over that. Texas conveyed 10 the United States
large amosnt OF territory, which these Cumanches
roamed-peThaps twice much even the State OF
Texas Suppose in the expenditure OF this money the
President OF the United States should say to these Gu
mancbes-and such policy has been recommended by |
officers OF the army who have bad councils with him
1--WE will locate you here, furnish the implements OF
husbandry TO obtain provisions and furnish you year or
40 with provisions = and suppose he should choose 10
make that location in territory obtained by the United
States as much belonging TO the Cumanches any part
OF Texas. The honorable would here preclude
him from making any such arrangement that. That
territory belongs TO the United States. II might suit the
Cumanches to settle there. ! doubt il they will do
not think any such negotiation will take place But the
senator. too anxious 10 avoid any OF responsibility
upon the subject preeludes and desires preclude By
a set OF words in the amendment any arrangement OF that
sort being made for the security OF the country
And ask him again, he is a better lawyer than
am, to show what obligations, under the amendment OF
the House OF Representatives OF the Senate in
CURED in the slightest degree by the United States
Words always used To incur obligations And ask
him take up and read the words OF the amendment
and plainly construe them, and then show where
there any three words That create the slightest obga
ton upon the part OF the United States There is already
obligation upon the United States which they have not
very well responded TO- and that obligation pro-
vide for the defence OF the frontier But will not enter
upon that matter upon this occasion. The honorable
senator has told that would find some difficulty in
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