The daily union., 1852-03-18

MINK therefore, we had Detter decide now whether We
aaopt ihs graduating policy or the railroad policy You
cannot adopt both, IN my judgment. | am opposed to
ths railroad policy Tor the reasons stated pretty fully
yesterday do not certainly desire embarrass gentle
men IN Their votes would be very sorry do But
lear u withdraw this amendment these railroad
bills VIII all pass, and then there will be necessity
and no poprey permit me to say IN The adoption OF the
graduating policy. II will only then be left 10 operate
upon alternate sections.
Mr.. DODGE, OF Iowa. | appeal to my friend from
Pennsy lyanla 10 withdraw his amendment
Mr.. MANGUM. Mr. President, we are getting to be
an extremely wise body We act upon the very largest
subjects with all the aids o intuition. Now, sir. would
nn olsust ne aoes. man thus country ever produced
knowledge OF the working OF the land system of mat
ters connected with the public domain get up here
the end OF tedious sitting and in five minutes attempt
TO make disposition OF the entire domain OF the
try. understand the measure which is offered is ad-
verse TO the bill under consideration. hope Il can be
easily disposed Of since the gentleman has refused at the
request OF his friend, to Withdraw it, l hope will
vote upon Il, and vote it down.
MIR. BRODHEAD. | cannot consent to withdraw it.
| ask Tor the yeas and nays upon it,
The yeas and nays were ordered
Mr. sOuLE. ! shall vote against the proposition,
emanatng from my friend from Pennsylvania; and yet
an ss 2 admit .na the proposition were presented
have been enabled discover the BILL would prob
ably readily give my to It, II is very clear
that way prepared to act upon matter OF such
vast importance as this at this time Il would be assuming
has been very appropriately remarked by the hon
orable senator from North Carolina Mr.. MANGuM,l the
believe there is senator here who claims to possess
shall vote therefore, against the substitute proposed by
the senator from Pennsylvania. had intended to ex-
plain at some length the vote which mean 10 give in
favor of the Iowa bill; but understand that bill OF
the nature is 10 be presented by the senator from
Ohio. Mr. CHASE, when shall have opportunity to
express my views have resolved upon giving silent
vote in favor of the present BILL
Mr.. JONES. of Iowa. desire to make appeal to
the senator from Pennsylvania, and 10 say to him that
feel anxious he does for the passage of his bill
the proper time would take it great favor to me
and my State i he would withdraw his amendment
Mr.. DODGE, OF Iowa. renew the appeal to my wor-
there is an individual this floor who is sincerely in
favor OF graduation system in all its scope, claim
be so. The principle has grown with my growth. and
strengthened with my strength. am ready, therefore,
10 cooperate with the from Pennsy lvana all
tines in proper manner 10 effect that great
but trust he does not desire to embarrass this bill, and
will not force us to vote down his amendment
Mr. BRODHEAD. | stated when offered this amend
ment that did not design to embarrass gentlemen in
their votes and say TO the senator from North Car
olna Mr.. MAkGUMl that this proposed substitute of
mine not prepared drawn up by me. Ii is
that has already been before this body well ma
lured and is prepared BY gentleman from one OF the
land States.
However. as there seems to be great desire that
should Withdraw it, and subsequently offer it inde-
pendent proposition, think perhaps it will be better for
me TO do rather Than to embaras gentlemen their
votes. was sincere in bringing forward 10 the notice
of the Senate hope that this original bill will be
voted down, and then will bring forward this in
The PRESl DENT 1t can be done by the permission
OF the Senate
MIR BRODHEAD. can withdraw my amendment
The PRESIDENT. Does the Chair understand the
senator from Maryland to object to Withdrawing the
MIR PRATT Yes sir; believe it is my privilege to
require vote to be taken, since the yeas and nays
The PRESIDENT Most certainly, il any senator in
sisis upon the vote, it must be taken.
Mr. MASON | understood the senator from Penn
sylvana, IN Offering this proposition TO declare distinct y
that IN bis Judgment from the former action OF this body
upon like proposition. there remained alternative
now butte choose between the policy OF giving away
these public lands, large portion OF them TO the States
within which they lie, OF adopting opposing policy
Of providing for their immediate speedy SALE by grad
uang The prices and that II was in view OF that that he
offered his proposition amendment that OF giving
the public lands 10 railroads Now, am not prepared TO
say present, whether ould be disposed the op.
ton were left me- TO change the existing policy OF the
government TO that which proposed by the senator's
amendment | mean, that | am not prepared TO say
whether am in favor OF changing the existing laws OF.
price, TO that of reducing them TO less price, Tor the pur
pose OF efecting speedy sale. But between the two
proposiionso graduating the price for the purpose Of
selling them. and giving them away TO the States IN
which they le certainly shall vote for the former al
though would have cbeerully acquiesced II the sena-
aior had been permitted TO withdraw his proposition.
Mr. BELL. | would like to hear from the senator
from Pennsylvania what security this amendment that he
proposes will give to the country II il shall pass Will
the lands be still in the way, and would there not be
the same Iouine OF policy for rairoadsl
Mr. DOUGLAS. This may obvate some gentlemen's
objections to the land bills
Mr. BELL Mr.. President, II seems TO me that there
will be security whatever. We shall Just go on; and
whenever think is liberal and proper towards the
States who ask for additional appropr for pur
poses OF internal Improvements, we shall give them.
do understand the honorable senator from Pennsy
vania by his proposition, afoding any security upon
that head He asks their SALE IT is said, and author
ze large amount OF lands 10 be sold perhaps we put
two hundred and fifty millions OF OF the public
lands into MARKET and after you reduce the price OF them
to 40 per IL will take year alter year before
they will be appropriated; and, in the mean time, we
would remain bound by the obligations OF lberay
and Justice 10 support the OF these new States in
making these improvements desire to know II there
is any security upon that point
The PRESIDENT The Chair will be under the necessity
OF inerupting the for moment There is rule OF
the Senate which the Chair will read, and OF the bear
ing OF which he no, fully aware, IN deciding that
the amendment OF the senator from Pennsyvani could
not be Withdrawn after the yeas and nays have been
ordered upon IT, The rule is:
"When motion shall be made and seconded, shall be
reduced writing, II desired by the President any
Delivers In the table, and read, before the same
shall be debated and any motion may be Withdrawn by
the any time before decision, amendment, or
ordering of the yeas and nays, motion
slider, which shall not be Withdrawn Without leave OF the
Senate"
The leave OF the Senate is given by the action OF the
majority; and therefore the can Withdraw prop
oson even after the yeas and nays ordered upon it,
though the Chair Just now under different I'M
essonwhen leave is granted by vote OF the majority
OF the Senate.
Mr. BADGER move that the senator from Pennsyl-
vana have leave to withdraw his amendment
MIR. MASON. MIR. President, wish to say word IN
answer TO the senator from Tennessee, Mr.. BELL |
understand the to inquire what security the coun