Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1852-08-21

delay, the war steamer contracted for with Rohart
stevens in pursuance OF an act Of Congress passed April
Mr.. HOUSTON then submitted few remarks in reply
70 portion Of the remarks delivered yesterday by Mr.
STANTON, of Tennessee.
Mr.. STANTON, Of Tennessee under instructions from
the Committee Naval Affairs moved to amend the bin
by inserting after the item appropratng 81 065 900 for
repairs Of vessels IN ordinary and and Of YES
sells in commission including fuel and purchase Of hemp.
the proyiso which will be found In preceding column
Mr. JONES' Of Tennessee, raised the question that the
amendment was not in ORDER as it proposedto change
existing law in reference to the repair OF vessels pro-
yded for the building of ships not authorized by any
existing law, and as it proposed permanent legislation in
an appropriation bill.
Mr.. CLINGalAN reminded the gentleman from Tennes-
that there scarcely appropriation bill passed
but what contained some modification Of law In his own
opinion, the navy appropriation bill the proper bill in
which to incorporate all provisions for an increase of the
navy.
Mr. STANTON Of Tennessee; said that the item which
he moved to amend made appropriation for repairing
vessels and the provso which he offered proposed to d
rect the manner in which the money should be expended
Ii any thing be done for the navy during this
or any other Congress- this the only way in which it
could be done.
The CHAIRMAN stated that he had no hesitation in
ruling the amendment out of order
Mr. STANTON appealed from this decision.
And the question being taken the decision Of the Chair
| was overruled Ayes 49, noes 70.
| Mr.. STANTON, of Tennessee said that this the
proposition OF which he spoke yesterday He considered
it of much more Importance than the building of
sci for it was one in his opinion which would produce
great reform in the navy As gentlemen around him,
however, informed him that the amendment under
stood, he would submit no further remarks
The question was then taken and the amendment was
agreed to: Ayes IS, 48.
/ Mr.. STANTON, of Tennessee, moved to increase the
amount of ST 0G5,000 appropriated in the item just
amended to Sls65,OOO stating that this increase was
necessary to carry out the amendment just adopted
| Mr.. HOUSTON said that this amendment came with
very singular grace from those gentlemen all sides of
the House who urged Congress and the country the
proprety OF giving increased to the Collins
line the ground that by sustaining these mail steam
many vessels would be added to navy thus super
seding the necessity of building other ships They now
found the very gentlemen who aided in obtaining that
exorbitan appropriation proposing to increase the navy,
| notwithstanding their former arguments
| Mr.. CHANDLER replied to Mr.. HorsToS, contendng
that contemplated by those who voted in ia
of the appropriation for the Collins line that the adop
ton Of that appropriation would dispense with the neces
sity Of appropriations for the navy The increase pro-
posed by the gentleman from Tennessee would be neees
sary to carry out the objects which the committee had
just voted These objects he certainly deemed entirely
proper especially when he considered that our commee
exposed neighborng that matters were ars
ing every where in the Pacific ocean, the one hand,
and the Atlantic the other, to excite apprehen-
sions, if not our fears
Mr. STANTON of Tennessee said that the prop sition
to build ship that not to cost the Go
vernment any thing beyond the original estimates Of the
Navy Department. In single instance had the
Committee on Naval Affairs instructed him to introduce
appropriation greater than that recommended by the
Secretary of the Navy but in many instances they had
reduced the amount. He compared our navy with the
navies Of Great Britain, France and Russia and said
that if the four steamers Of the Collins line should be
added to the navy would not then be prepared for
war He thought that the gentleman from Alabama was
mistaken when he stated that any body had said at
time that the adoption of the appropriation for the Col
Inns line would dispense with the necessity of increasing
the navy.
Mr. HOUSTON said that the gentleman from Ohio, who
urged the appropriation referred to, based his whole
guen upon the ground that the appropriation would be
of getting clear of appropriations for the navy
Mr. FLORENCE inquired whether the estimates of the
Navy Depar had been reduced just the amount ap
propriated to the Collins hnef
Mr.. HOUSTON replied that the Committee Of Ways
and Means made reduction in the estimates for che
navy with reference to the Collins line, for the bill be-
fore the committee reported months before the Co
lins-ne appropriation was acted upon.
! Mr.. SWEETSER said that he Of those who op-
posed the appropriation for the Collins line Of steamers,
and he understood the argument in favor Of that amend
men be what the gentleman from Alabama had stated
And upon the heel OF that appropriation the chair
man Of the Committee on Naval Affairs came forward
with proposition to build steamer, The navy
Of the most extravagan branches Of the Govern
ment and large enough for all purposes of protec
ton. He opposed appropratng dollar fer the
increase Of the navy
Mr. TAYLOR spoke of the necessity Of reform in the
navy and 'a sat
MIR SACKETT advocated the amendment as essentially
important and which would only result in REFORM
but which would diminish the necessity for such large
annual appropriations for Notifications.
Mr. DEAN opposed the amendment, for the that
within less than fortnight the session would djourn
sine de, and he believed the Committee Of Ways and
Means had reported appropriations large enough keep
the navy aoat until December next when II necessary,
appropriations could be made He believed that
navy, under its present managementespecally under
the management Of the late Secretaryhad been Of
the corruptest sources Of abuse in the Government
| Mr.. G0ODEN0w contended that navy not as
efficient as ought to be, In view Of the difficulties which
existed between this country and Great Britain in
reference to the fisheries. We should maintain ef
fcient nayyone which would be prepared for all emer
gencies
Mr.. JOHNSON, of Tennessee, opposed the amendment
and alluded to what had been said Of the necessity Of
form. Although retrenchment often spoken Of
he had found the House in condition to commence
reform which would lessen the taxes the people
Mr. POLK thought ii disgrace 10 the country to
find the Committee Of Ways and Means, who had the
control every thing connected with the prosperity Of
must rely for national defence. We could whip
any body upon our shores, we could battle any body
upon coasts and fight them successfully, but we
could battle them the unless ships should
be given sails and armament There national
feeling in the Committee of Ways and Means How
could that committee know better than the Commit
tee of Naval Affairs what essential to this branch
Of the public serviceg The country required condem
nation Of the pursued by the Committee Of Ways
and Means, and as far as his voice went he
demned it.
Mr. B0C0CK said that he not Of those who
placed implicit confidence in demands from the other
end Of the but he must pay respect to the
which came from the Executive Depart
ments The Secretary Of the Navy, with the officers
der his control had had this subject under consideration