The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-06-03
MORNING EDTTION---THURSDAY. JUNE 3, 1853

the following resolution which was received with ap.
Resolved. That this convention will no. 90 into nomna-
on Tor fresdent or until the platform OF
The PRESIDENT said that under the resolution pro-
vidng for the committee the democratic creed this
resolution would go to 1t without debate, This decision
was succeeded by applause
There being much confusion the President loudly
called and raped loudly to order.
Mr. EABoRs-Do understand that resolutions. what.
ever their character 60 to that committee precudng all
The PRESIDENT remarked that the subject was not de-
bateable.
Mr. NAnoRs replied that he did not want TO debateit
After some conversation between several gentlemen
the President reversed his decision and said that the
solution of Mr. Nabors did come under the resol
tion adopted this morning.
delegate from Ohio demanded in the name Of that
State that vote the resolution be taken by States
MIR. SoULE. Of Louisiana. and said II should be
u dersood what likely to be the bearing of the
luton lie had some few remarks to submit to the Con-
yenon which ne considered would induce them to vote
down the resolution
MIR. HALL ofwisconsin, raised the point Of order that
the took the priority Of business and not
debateablc
Mr. CoHEN of Georgia. said that Georgia occupied an
anomalous position this floor. From afeeling deli
cacy che cannot be represented any committee until
after the report from the Committee Credentials shall
have been received and acted upon. Hence gentlemen
would that the delegates from that State sitting
here cyphers and not representatives from
sovereign State. he therefore moved that the Commit
tee ON Credentials be called upon for their report.
port, but lmd received no answer. The Chair would
again call for the report
MIR. CoS asked as an nct ofiusticc that the Convcn-
tion would suspend all action until after the committee
shall have made their report.
The President alluded TO the point Of order raised by
Mr.. Hall and decided that the question not do
bateable.
Mr.. souLn still standing on settee. wishing to
speak, and there were loud cries of leave leavc.r
Mr. NABoKs moved Il postpcn the further considers
tion Of his resolution until 10. morrow.
motion was made that the gentleman from Lousi-
ana be permitted to proceed with his remarks This
carried bya two thirds vote, and was followed BY long
continued applause.
Mr.. SouLE proceeded was goiag to remark when
the floor was accorded to that the question presented
to this convention Of high moment indeed and
one on which depended, in all probability the
and ultimate harmony of the democratic party. This
being my impression, for one not willing to cndan-
ger the harmony by precipitate action. (Applause)
What will bo tho effect of the resolution upon YOUR Ia be
1t be carried? Why sir, the effect is obvious Every
man in this convention every individual member the
Committee on Resolutions will strain his last to
rtparc platform to suit the purpose of the individual
candidate for whom ho may entertain predilection
and in this struggle. and great sea of opinion
but an abyss for the dignity and harmony Of the
democratic party. want to you of the dangers of
that abyss. When you come to conclusion to the
harmony Of Tie democratic partywhen you shall have
heard OF the brnngs created by the troubles of conflict
ing interests then and then alone shall this convention
be prepared to act for the good of the party Appause
The struggle will longer be between indyiduals-tho
object will be no longer to promote the views Of this
or the ambition of the other but the Objects hope
will be to promote the stability Of institutions and
oppose with NIL the strength of my heart the adoption of
the N solution now pcnding.
Dir. HOOKER, of Mississippi, said that the resolution
offered by Mr. Nabors proposing to construct plat
form before the candidates named met not the
ten Of the delegation from that State He believed that
the majority Of the delegation violently opposed
IT, They have appointed spokesman, who will express
their views by authority
Dir MAJORS. Of Miss said he was not aware that in
becoming member Of the Convention he lost his ndi-
yidnnlity. Before the gentleman from Louisiana (dr
Soue) addressed the Conyeaton he (Mr Nabors) pro-
To rH
the resolution in order that the Mississippi delegation
might have time to consult Tho distinguished gentle
for what reason He claims, (said Mr.. Nabors,)
and it Is true claim that he wishes to the demo-
cru tsat'c party united prosperous and victorious in
~! What has it ever been proud to be predicated
upon Principle, and nothing else. What is the high
party and to sustain which they have been prepared to
make sacrces Everything for principles, and nothing
for men. (Appause) The difference between the views
make candidate through the candidate, whilst desire
to make platform. and put candidate upon 1t. We
The erect platform before you get your candidate
will therefore simply say. in conclusion, that so far
any raying point in Mississippi is concerned, the minds
OF her delegates are made up. There is not particle
OF difference between the members frem my State.
lLong continued appause) We Were divided in
but merged in one: and hence have
thing to accomplish further than this and every
gentleman will hear the remark 1t is this -
think the time has now come when both of the great
parties OF this nation ought to be purified annihatcd
do not where the resolution from-North,
East South. Westbut wish to go before the people
with clean hands In conclusion he asked leave tenn
porarly to withdraw the resolution in order that the
Mississippi delegation might have time to reflect This
was agreed to.
Mr.. WISE (ofva) asked whether the question, on the
adoption of the resolution proposing the erection Of
platform, was now pending!
The PRESIDENT replied in the negative.
Mr.. WISE then renewed the motion.
The PRESIDENT informed him that 1t was not debate
able under the rules.
Mr. said bah had 10 olo IIn hnuav
regretted very deeply that he not able to
with Oh the distingshc gentleman from Louisiana.
The PRESIDENT again reminded the gentleman that the
proposition was not dcbatcable.
lCries of : Go on Hear : Go on" Sci
, Ar WISE procccdcdI concur not with the positions of
the gentleman from Louisiana and much less with the
reason which he assigns What is the test Of principles
The principle of the different delegations Of the different
States have preceded the nomination for delegates of
every State. Is So sir, that if we undertake to esa-
bsh platform of principles that the democratic party
will suffer! odforbd it. (Applause) l dissent from
conclude on a platform of principles Are they not
and known here! Arc they not already
permit me hero to say, that there is more likely
to be mischief in not laying down the principles
first than by adopting your candidate Before the nom
nation is made differences may be rcconced in order to
make the various preferences Of the delegations conform
to the various principles of the dclegaons but the
contrary the moment you get votes then away with
the princpes ask then is IL not better at to de-
clare the platform! The should he made to conform
to the principles (Applause The faith of the demo
agreement Virginia has difficulty in establishing and
earming 1t to the world She proud to say it is the
aith OF the anein rgmthe faith Of Madison and JEFF
eron-thc administrative policy of strict construction
md economy in the public expenditures Until know
hat Is the standard Of faith and that the nominee will
be made to conform to that standard will giys
him my vote
Gov FLOYD ofva remarked-I trust may be the plea
sure Of this Convention to reject tho resolution concur
heartily with the gentleman from Louisiana (Nlr Soue)
We came here not to construct plat but to nomi-
nate President, to find welcome in every BOSOM
without platform Wewant man whose life Is a qua
ranty that he is true to democratic principles
VorcE-That's the talk
just at this point some in the gallery cried out,
I Hurrah for Cassn
Mr. FLOYD continued Principles understood through
out every nook and corner of the republic The only
platform required s that OF the constitution which the
candidate when he takes the oath to support it,
We should beware how construct platforms which
may make the word of God of effect did Of old the
scribes and pharsecs Let make platform after the
candidate is selected Il IL supposed that any Of the
candidates Is obnoxious that he cannot stand upon it,
Let us not depart from the uagcs of the party They
have carried us through safely Why change what
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