The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-09-18

thereby to engyave plate in inisssion thereof.
He replied G2o: which the prisoner said was
too much, and that he could get them done ct .
much cheaper rate beyond. by watch he understood
him to mean America. Some conversation, OF no
importance, then ensued, after which the prisoner
went away, but returned again shortly afterwards
and, producing number Of notes, asked what ne
would do two Of them for. He -eplied ESQ, and he
prisoner said that clio each was too much and that
he could get them done in America for sc5 esch,
words 70 that effect. On the prisoners leaving tae
and they advised him to take the ORDER and then
to give information. He did not again see the pri
soner until the latter end Of April, when he came
into the shop, and said he had been in some OF
he would take for engraving the plate. After some
discussion, be sgreed to do it for El0 and % soon
rs the prisoner was gone he gave information 10 Kr.
Foy, who advised him to undertake the plate,
called several times, and they had sumerous con-
versst ions as to how the plate was getting on
Mr.. Porter intimated that the information had
been taken by him at his private house on the Let
June.
Sergeant Mortimer Redmond, Of the Detective
Force, was then examined, and deposed that acting
upon the information he received, he, in company
with Sergeant Ryan, arrested the prisoner Wei
hngton quay. on the previous afternoon, about two
o'clock, by virtue Of warrant signed by Mr.. Por-
ter; on taking him into custody, he searched him.
and concealed under his coat he found the plate in
question: wrapped in piece Of paper; in his pocket
u
notes. fifty three in number, all of which seemed to
have been struck from the plate, and were conse
quently forgeries.
Mr. Gurran-I 1t appears. your worships, that the
prisoner had been extensively circulating those
notes amongst the poor emgrants, upwards of ESQ
in genuine money being found upon his person.
The witness said that he had also found upon the
prisoner purse containing eighty three five dollar
notes, two notes for sf.y dollars each, two for
twenty dollars, three for ten dollars, two for two
dollars, four for one dollar and thirteen silver coins,
al Of which we're genuine. lie also got another
pocket cook, containing twent ght silver coins,
number Of eve dollar notes. and great number OF
gold coins consisting Of eagles, hslfeag,es, and
quarter eagles. The witness here produced and
handed in the articles spoken of il his evidence
In reply to Mr.. Porter Mr. Toy stated that gold
eagle was worth about c. of English money Those
now produced were genuine
Sergeant Redmond then went on TO say, that hay
ing found out where the prisoner lived by watching
him for some days previously, he took him thither,
and there found q travelling bag the key Of which
the prisoner pointed out from amongst the bunch
which had been taken from him, admitting, AZ the
same time, that the bag was his on opening it, he
found two shoes, i'll the toe OF one OF which he got
pure containing eighteen gold coins, five Ell Bank
of Ireland notes, and American note, which had
been formerly cut in pieces and was then pasted on
piece Of paper.
hr Foy-lt was cut up for the purpose Of en-
grazing
The witness further stated that in the same bag
be found gold watch and eight five dollar notes
similar to those got on the prisoners person, and
having apparently been struck off the plate
whilst it was in progress; there WAS also double
barrelled pistol (rihed) therein, which was loaded
with powder and ball
In reply to Mr.. Porter, the witness stated that
when he arrested the prisoner he told him that he
officer Of police, and that he laid hold of one
of the prisoners and that the other caught
by Sergeant Ryan; he had not time to tell the pri-
what he was arrested for hen the latter cried
out, stake me easy, have it," he then searched
or1 ftax ID ttcp hn Ind T..
ready described.
Mr. Porter then intimated to the prisoner that If
be wished to put any questions to the witness he
was ut liberty to do so The latter, however, who
mantained determined taciturnity throughout the
examination Of the different witnesses, replied that
he had no question to put to him:
Sergeant Ryan, OF the q division, was next ey-
amined He stated that be accompanied Sergeant
Redmond, and gave corroharative testimony as 60
the arrest Of the prisoner. lie further stated that
he searched the pocket of the prisoner next to him
self, and found therein what appeared to be proof
taken from plate for an American note, and ano-
Their note pasted upon paper, which appeared to be
genuine. lie found upon his person quantity OF
POWDER caps and ball. lie also found upon his person
eithteen Upper coins, consisting Of Iar:hiugs aud
cents, besides knife and some pieces Of note papec
cut snail. The pieces welc cut ittO about the s. 10
Of the bank notes.
The prisoner did not put any questions TO this
witness.
VI Porter sail eli thai nov remained 70 be doqe
Mr. Curran--I %, about to do so, youy worship
Alexander Fey, Esq sworn--I an Vieo-Con- NJ
for America in this city Having received inform
tion some time ago OF the extensive frauds which
have been going on, have been ever since in search
Of the parties penetrating them 1.-THE notes found
upon the prisoner here handed 10 the wtnes-l
j know these notes to be f0rgeries | have some Of
the genuine notes Of the Hartford Bank in my pos
session. (notes produced) those found upon the pri-
soner purport to be from the same plate From my
A. " n he WAL
are very extensively circulated. | state those
found upon the prisoner 70 be forgeries.
To the Bench wish to sta.e that Mr Wilson's
conduct all through the transaction has been most
priseworthy, he has never exceeded what told him
to do and he has used his utmost exeriens to bring
the matter to satisfactory conclusion At first
ne was very unwilling 10 have any thing to do
with it but when put the in its proper light,
and told him that if he refused the prisoner would
doubtless go to other engraver, and that by
tering into the plot he would be the OF saving
from the effects of those frauds numbers Of persons
who would otherwise be severe sufferers, he joined
in the matter heartily, and acted with the greatest
credit to himself all through
To Mr.. Curran-Amougst the notes arc several be-
longing to other banks besides the Hartford Bank,
ofwhch the prisoner. doubtless, intended to pro-
cure plates.
Mr., Porter In Mr.. Wilson's information tits only
sworn what the cost Of getting two Of them done
would be.
Mr. GUARANTEES but the prisoner produced five
or six different notes to select those two FROM
Mr. j. IL. Huntington then stated as folio VS.
i have come over from America as the agent Of
the Hartford Bank; (notes produeed) those notes
are iorgeries now view the plato from which they
have been struck; am enabled to state that they
have been struck from of II owing to examinations
which have made; that plate was not made by the
direction Of the bank they get single plate
made they always have three plates made together
have now in NY possession a triple note which |
saw struck of N the bank previous TO my depar-
ture (the note in question was then handed into the
bench); the genuine note is larger than the forged
note by about eighth Of INCH but ii is per-
feet imitation for it goes; any person aocus-
toned to the notes Of the bank might detect the
difference, but ordinary spectator would not
easily do 60; the counterfeit plate is exceedingly
well done; ] well acquainted with the hand
writing st two gentlemen whose signatures purport
to be ut the bottom Of the notes. Mr. Porter is one
OF the managers, and Mr.. T. Belknap is tho secte-
tary; believe those signatures to be forgerios.
The prisoner did not AK either Of the two last
Witnesses any questions.
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