The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-08-22

separately upon every measure, and making distinct
bill OF H. why il you TO cut up all the appropria-
on bills IN that way, according the literal meaning OF
he phrase made use OF by my friend from Michigan,
should have curious state OF things such has never
existed from the foundation of the government 10 the
present day These various for the appropria
ons OF he public lands are more gemane 10 each other
and constitute subject OF identity and unity than
any appropriation bill that introduced into this
Senate. They form subject, and ought to be con-
saefea as one. The principles connected with them
ought 10 be considered together and ought to mature
some system for the disposition OF this great fund.
have advocated that from the commencement The facts
10 DC considered are much subject any appo-
priaton bills and II will take no more time TO mature
bill OF that kind, in my opinion, than il will to
an appropriation bill-the civil and dplom0c BILL for
instance say the matters to be considered all upon
one subject, aud II would be and better take
them all up al one time and consider them together
than It would be 10 take the subject up in pecemeal
and would be more in conformity, as conceive. with
principle therefore have not tried 10 put this amend
ment upon this bill 10 try to defeat the under
consde rauono press down measure for which have
ayowed my friendship, and have given testimony of that
friendship by voting for il; but have done from
sense OF justice, and because provides for the dspos
ton OF great subject having something like unity in all
It's bearings.
Mr.. BUTLER My view upon the questions before
the Senate may be misunderstood. unless say few
words OF explanation. am opposed TO the bill of the
honorable senator from Michigan, and am opposed to
It upon the very ground which he has assigned this
mornng-that il is local measure. understood yes
terday that it general bill of vast importance
war measure: | understand today that i is local
measure, which concerns no State but Michigan
| MIR. CASS. Is not fort local measure in tina,
sense
| Mr. BUTLER Not at all, sir; you have 10 fight the
world with fort. am opposed to the bill upon that
ground. am opposed, upon principle 10 the amend
ment which has been presented and advocated by the
senator iron Kentucky. am opposed to the amend.
ments to which the senator from Mississippi refers.
am opposed to the whole Of them; but having TO take
my choice between them, prefer that OF the senator
from Kentucky shall therefore vote for that amend
that IA m nrav mpuu.
ment may prevail in preference 10 any OF the Others and
if can defeat the others by that, am perfectly willing
10 do it.
| Mr. BROOKE move to amend the amendment of
the senator from Kentucky by inserting in the third
lion, which desgnaes the routes OF the various rail-
roads to be constructed after the word Aberdeen" the
words "lrom Canton, Mississippi, TO Holey Springs"
That provides for an additional railroad.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD am willing 10 accept that
Mr.. JONES, OF Tennessee. | rise to ask my friend
from Kentucky to withdraw his amendment and | do il
for this In the first place, do not think il is
very fair and legitimate mode OF warfare The senator
has his proposition il is separate and distinct one and
we can vote directly upon il and if il is the desire OF
majority of the Senate TO take up the bill which he offers
as an amendment, it can be done at any time.
Again: the proposition is calculated 10 place gentlemen
in false position, which do not think is altogether
fair The senator from Michigan says that if this amend
ment adopted he will be constrained under of
Duty TO vote against his bill. Now, | ask the
senator from Kentucky il he desires to place any
ator in position OF that sort We are all here upon
our own responsibility Every senator is expected 10
ward two propostions-l being in favor oil and OPP
posed TO the other-and amaganate them do you not
place me IN contradictory position And surely that
cannot be the purpose OF nay friend from Kentucky.
But have another reason for making this request want
TO see senators up TO this great question OF dsrb
ung the public lands to all the States OF the Union fair
Iy and squarely want no excuse-no evasion. do
not want any senator 10 go home and say his cons
uents, voted against the distribution TO all the States
attached TO measure local 10 its character for Mieh
gan; and that s my excuse" | want every TO
stand fairly before the country. The only objection
have voting for the bill OF the senator from Michigan
is this have voted for other propositions OF that sort
since have been in the Senate. and shall vote for this,
although confess he has thrown difficulties in the
way for yesterday told by the that II
was for national defence today he has told
! us that 1t is a local measure.
| Mr.. CASS. VIII the senator allow me to say that
wish he would not stumble upon word. ! mean by
local situated in distinct and district OF
try do not that il has general objects, or that
II IS local IN lis objects beg the senator not TO rest his
arguments upon word which slips out in hasty de-
bate.
MIR. JONES, OF Tennessee Then, have gwen the
senator an opportunity OF putting himself right Ii is a
local measure with general objects But nay purpose
rising to ask the senator from Kentucky 10 Withdraw
his amendment, so that may have opportunity of
voting upon The separate propositions am willing 10
vote for The bul but there senators who not,
and Sn not willing 10 cast upon any the charge OF in.
consistency in regard their votes on II as an amend
ment hope, therefore, the senator will withdraw his
Mr. ATCHISoN | desire to inquire whether The
amendment proposed by the senator from Kentucky can
now be amended II so, propose 10 strike out all after
its enactIng clause. so that may insert what think TO
be a very fair graduation bill
| The PRESIDENT. IL is not in order to make
any such proposition inasmuch as another amendment
70 the amendment has been moved by the senator from
Mississippi upon which tue question must first be taken.
| Mr.. UNDERWOOD. | desire to say that cannot
withdraw my amendment, because believe conscien-
ously that the subject embraced in il will not be acted
on during the session if il is not acted upon And
would say TO my friend from Tennessee that no such
consequence follows he imagine-ihal gen.
temen cannot show their hands II the amendment is
adopted, motions be made 10 amend IL. Senator'S can.
II they choose sa for division of the amendment and
have separate vote upon ils various sections. They
call for the yeas and nays that every gentleman
has fully IN bis power TO show exactly where he stands
in reference to ii by his vote We have already had
public lands among the States, which had the honor to
offer at an early part OF the session That voted
down. One great objection to II was, that II allowed
Satesto own lands n other States But the House has
got clear OF that objection. want 10 whether the
Senate will take that bill OF the House As 10 the inius
tce which the senator says do, by placing others in
false position, there is no injustice done The senator
from Michigan has said that he will vote against his
own bill IT my amendment prevails My object is to
how senators will vote upon that identical question.
want them to discriminate ihey cam between the grant
and 10 the old States | wish that to 20 before the
country and being friend TO all these measures-be
eving that they in principle the same-I think per-
ecy legitimate 10 offer the amendment and have the
| sense of the Senate upon IT,
Mr. BROOKE. At the suggestion OF gentlemen, will
modify my amendment 40 10 read "from Canton Mis-
sissipp, to some point 90 the Tennessee line"