The daily union., 1852-04-09

There nothing else left for no one proposes 10 dis
tribute ms proportion again, but TO give to one State
anoiner seat-but 10 make new arrangement as re-
CARDS these three States WE'LL sir do moi think that
the honorable senator from South Carolina, Mr. RHrrT,l
when ne gives this construction to the act OF 1850 admit
ting Calforna. gives correct construction to it, but
very erroneous view OF the meaning oil that law That
law is AMPLY Limitation OF time, and nothing else--a
limitation up to the period when the enumeration to
Mr. President my main object was to cali the attention
oil the Senate to these considerations.
was passed for the purpose OF taking the census and
limits me number OF representatives. to 1885, and that dis
nibution has been made II not desirable to disturb il
" can be avoided Then, sir the true questionf we
give an interpretation and construction TO that LAWS
ths South Carolina appears to have fraction OF $1,000
hsn % oaS has rs In
representative Well, my friend says we have larger
iraction;- and that brings ns y these documenls-i
brings us TO the evidence, Mr. President; and the real
question is. does the evidence sustain the view which
gentlemen take Of this subject? Does II authorize the
conclusion that California has as large fraction
South Carolina! The gentleman will say perhaps that is
not necessary II he says that il is not necessary that
add member. say that is necessary that you raise
your fraction above the fraction of Louisiana, which
amounts 10 the same thing for Louisiana has 10000
Then me point 49, can we go TO work, and can you by
any evidence before correct errors in the taking Of
the census OF California which will enable you to add
enough 10 the fraction of California to ene her TO The
member That is the question 10 be settled here; aud If
you settle that question wrongly, you disturb the whole
apporonment and derange the whole system OF repre-
When you add a member you take from the power
OF the other States to the extent OF the power they
233 and the true question is said just now whether
California override South Carolina in this natter
This is the question which ought TO be considered Has
she-and can you make out by any reasonable cacula-
toncan you make out that she has fraction larger than
that Of South Carolina, That is the point Will you
take Il upon such evidence is contained in the letter
OF the gentleman which published and annexed 10 this
documenl do not intend 10 imply anything deroga,ory
TO his responsibility, but take the language which is used
there. take the terms which employed to convey his
ideas; and appeal TO you, sir. and TO other gentlemen
whether they take estimates made in the in
which these profess 20 be- and substitute them in place OF
the returns made by the officers of the government
And appeal TO you cir, whether IS hardly respectful
for the gentleman making estimates in the loose manner
IN which these are made to term the made by the
officers S. Of the government grossly inaccurate"
This evidence does not strike my mind clear or
satisfactory in this matter but desrous that il should
be 1t is said that this is hardship upon California
to have her number OF representatives reduced but Mr.
President, il must be remembered that apporionment
is made under the constitution of the country, upon an
enumeration made by virtue of that instrument, and that
the agreement is that you shall send just many repre-
seniayes as your numbers enable you TO do under The
law which provides Tor the taking OF the census and
that IS all California is no more wronged than New
Hampshire, Vermont, or Connecticut or many other
States which have lost members. Maine, the gentle
mans own State has lost member un Ter the appor
Mr. President Throw out these matters or suggestions
as have gathered them from the facts which con-
tanned IN The documents reported by the committee
W, IL
though think il is very well taken. indeed but seems
to me- wiser and better way is TO hold 10 the appor
nonneni made under the law OF 1850 and settle the ques
ton between South Carolina and California which
OF the Two States is entitled to The representative Now
gentlemen will show me- By any satisfactory evidence
any evidence that reasonable man can taketha the rac
tion OF California overrides that OF South Carolina will
say that she is entitled TO the member, and will give
10 her.
THE DEFICIENCY puL.
Mr.. HUNTER. { will ask the general consent OF the
Senate TO be allowed 10 report the deficiency BILL IN opier
TO have the amendments printed.
Leave was granted, and the report was received
Mr.. HUNTER | am instructed by the Committee on
Finance. 10 whom referred the bill from the House
TO supply deficiencies m the appropriations Tor the service
OF the fiscal year ending the 30th OF June, 1852
port back the same with certain amendments. move
shall s es a hs hi ." Monday
The motion TO print the amendments was agreed 10.
THE ApPoRTIosmrsr RrLL.
Mr. GWIN The honorable senator from Massachu-
setts lMr. DAynl has called for Information with regard
to the document referred TO so frequently here have
got il here, and will read IL to him. In regard TO the
Of my colleague in the other House, [Mr.
McCoRKLE the senator says that he thinks the language
oil that gentleman hardly respectful Well SIR. he
did not here for tho FIRST time and he has bad
reason 10 that language. He has made oil similar
language on a former occasion Mr.. McCoarLE was one
OF the Joint committee appointed by the legislature OF Call
Iforna upon this question: and what he said that
cason not certainly intended 10 produce any effect
upon this body for u was never Ior moment supposed
the apportoDmeBi 10 be made upon such that
Here is what MIR McCoskLE, chairman Of the joint CON-
mee said In that repo-a report made more than year
ago:
"The joint select committee appointed by the senate and
assembly port bin 10 rcapporton the members OF the
and assembly among the several counties Of the
State have cafeiuy considered the same, and report the
accompanying bill, and recommend It's pa.nge, 1851
From all tile reliable Information within the reach OF the
committee. they believe that the federal population oil Cal
iona exceeds 100000 souls. They have arrived at
this conclusion from information derived from all paris OF
the STATE well from record Of the overland emtRa-
tiou arrivals aud Departures by IN the last two
yesr,. and the estimated number of resident Caornaos
the time OF the change OF flags IS TO be regretted that
the suicent furnished by the United States gov
the commissioners appointed 20 take the cen.
su the migratory character OF population the nprac.
ticabiy reaching the greatest number OF said popna
the gorges OF the mountains have rendered the
sns, lar reported, inconrect aud unsatisfactory" !"
This gentleman speaks from Information collected upon
a former occasion. when he acting in another
pscy lie expected 10 be called upon here for any
testimony upon this subject al all II was believed by
all OF us that the census would be completed.
Now. Mr. President, will just read 10 the Senate the
second section OF The admitting California into the
Union, aod will leave II 10 the Senate 10 decide whether
the requirements Of this act have been complied with
lad be n fathr enacted, That until tho representa-.
Congress shall be apporoned according 10 Nm oc-
OF the inhabitants Of the United states.
the Of California shall bs entitled 10 two representa
tives in Congress"
The senator inquired whether these persons were TO
be inquired OF whether they resided California or m
tended TO reside there The act says they are to be m
habitants
This act was passed after The census acts subse-
quent awand Il says that, until an actual enumeration
has been taken California shall have two representa-