The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-04-22

from the territories OF the United States
The question being taken on the amendment II was
Mr. ATCHIsoN | now propose 10 strike out the
words ito some designated unoccupied territory oil The
United States"
The question being taken on this amendment. il was
The question then REQUIRED on striking out the portion
OF the bill that reported TO be stricken out by The
Mi HUNTER. AS that part now stands amended,
there is no object in striking il out
Mr.. SEBASTIAN would like to have the section
as amended by the senator from Illinois read,
The portion OF the bill was accordingly read as amend
ed, as follows;
.For compensation three special agents and four inter
prefers for the Indian tribes Of Texas the purchase
Of presents and negotiate with said indians under in
have inuded themselves into that State from Territories
OF the United States for their removal from that State,
twenty-five thousand dollars"
Mr.. BORLAND. II it is in order, to strike out
the words for the purchase of presents" think to
negotiate would be sufficient. have always thought
that IL Objectionable Tor u.s. IN legislation, TO
recognise the purchase OF presents TO hire were,
the Indians TO do such and such things II seems to me
like paying tribute, as we formerly did, 10 the plracal
powers on the Mediterranean.
Mr.. BADGER. 1t will be necessary, in that case, 10
use some other form OF expression than that in The bill as
Mr. BORLAND. If the words " and for the purchase
OF presents be stricken out, my purpose will be accom-
plished.
tenon to provide for negotiation by the purchase OF
presents. then you may we'll say Ii il is proper
give presents, II is proper 10 say So
ME KUSk. There Is no indian treaty that does not
do it.
Mr.. CASS 1t has been uniform practice; and, if
we should strike this out, it might lnterpose some diff
Guilty with the department. so we had better keep in
The question being then taken striking out the por
ton Of the bill reported by the committee amended,
il not agreed to.
The PRESIDENT then stated that the next amend
ment was to add 10 the appropriation of SIT 900 for
inung the collection and Tor publishing the statistics and
other information authorized BY the acto Sd OF March
Is
Provided, That the work shall be completed in five
volumes, and that at least volume shall be published in
nish s' 'A me "0'0 SERIES q nVs volumes 'a' Dc
Mr.. BADGER. Mr. President, desire to hear some
explanation about that matter.
MI. HUNTER. This pToyso put in after consul
taton with the Department of the Interior addressed
letter TO the Secretary of the INTERIOR he had been
called away and then saw the Commissioner of Indian
Affairs. Upon consultation with him. found that the
work would probably be finished in five years, at the
rate Of one , volume year
Mr.. BORLAND. Before the question is taken,
should like to ask the honorable senator from Virginia
It hc knowsthe amount Of money to be paid for these
bookswhat The whole cost Of the FIVE volumes will be
Mr.. HUNTER. ] am unable 10 tell The exact amount
but think il is about twenty thousand dollars per volume
Tor the publishing and prntng--that is, exclusive OF
NE salary OF Mr. Schoocrait, and, perhaps, clerk
Although cannot tell the exact amount now, will be
able to give the senator the information TO
Mr. .BORLAND. Mr. President, have certainly had
good deal OF gTahcaton examining these books The
two volumes which have been published are the most
beautiful piece Of work ever saw in my life, and /
believe the world does not furnish such another spec
men OF typography as we have in that book But, sir,
cannot say what will be my opinion of the contents,
alter ! shall have examined its contents with sufficient
care 70 DC able 70 pronounce an opinion satisfactory 10
myself. am inclined TO think that we may draw the
distinction here which has been drawn in crcising
certain work-between work that is very beautifully
gotten up and work which in itself is not very beautiful
Of, to express the idea clearly perhaps will repeat
as II was applied 10 book OF poems years ago
Inc criticism upon certain poetcal work published in
very beautiful book OF poems such was the announce
ment put at the beginning The question then arose
whether the term beautiful applied to the book itself
or 10 the poetry in it, WE'LL sir, here is certainly very
beautiful book--a magnificent work piece Of book
making but can any tell whether the book contains
anything really valuable.
Mr. BORLAND. Yes, sir the pictures are very beau.
titu and the typography beautiful, perhaps, than
the world can present. but is not that all?
Dir. BADGER. The pictures are worth the money
MIR. HUNrER II the honorable senator will allow
me- will give him statement of the cost OF the work
hearing the statement
Mr.. HUNTER. The amount expended in the course
OF the last i've years has been 500 1861 that indcpend
ent OF this deficiency Here is letter in which there is
statement OF that deficiency well OF the amount
expended during The last five years and also states that
Mr. WHlTC0MB From whom is the letter.
MT HUNTER. From the Department OF the Interior,
to which addressed inquiries about the matter.
MI DohLhND we nave here, Then, a statement
about equivalent to what the senator said before the
cost OF the volumes He said-and his statement now
proves it-iha they would cost about $4,000 volume
so that the whole work will not far from slOo 600
Can any one say from examination OF the work. from
his knowledge OF the materials, that il is worth that or
will be worth half of bail or what does il consist
IL does not consist OF matters which necessary for our
legislation. II adds nothing 10 the scientific knowledge
oil the counry but 1t consists OF specuaons upon what
we may call suppose the of the history OF the
red men OF this country 1t does not state ANYTHING be-
al he
lied upon with any degree OF Confidence bat consists
oil certain philosophical specuatons upon the character
and condition, and probable fate in the future OF the va
nous Indian tribes OF couatry II may be very yau
able, but do not think that have such assurances of
It's value as will justify in expendng 100000 in It's
publication For one, am not satisfied TO that extent
and Tor that reason shall be unwilling TO continue this
large expenditure. The books very beautiful | have
received both volumes, and have examined them with
that character, kind. and amount OF information which
think would repay us for the money we propose 10 ex
pend In the publication of the work.
Mr. BADGER Mr. President, having arrived in the
progress OF investigations and inquiries into the
amendments proposed by the committee TO this bill al The
Stage at which we now are, IL seems to me there could be
no more fitting occasion for the Senate adjourn We
cannot get through the bill this evening
:, Mr HUNTER | hope we shall not now adjourn
we may get through all the amendments but the last
mat IN relation TO the Collins line of steamers which
know will be debated. The Others | think can be
adopted without much debate
M, BADGER. There is previous amendment
wpcn he senate has not yet reached, which wish TO
oeos'e rs one which undertakes, by act OF Congress
10 regulate what the officers of the Senate shall do
NJ noN hh when we get to that, shall ask