The daily union., 1852-09-18
CONGRESSIONAL.
DEFERRED DEBATE.
MONDAY. AUGUST 80. 1862.
[coNCLuDED.
SENATE,
EMPLOYEES OF THE SENATE.

uensa,on 10 The employees OF the Senate. reported the
same back with an amendment, as follows:
Rssolped That there be allowed and paid, under the
diteoon Of The COMMITTEES Audit and Control the Com
npep, Expenses OF the Senate, to the in us EN-
poy me ua sum. - H,ryv John Brown and Robert
Carter the oil 500 each. .H. aa#
R,avsd That the Arms, under the direc
on o the committee be authorized 10 employ the
pages and foldsrs during the Ia fold
~ and that the same price be paid therefor as
@ nsd al the last session and that he be auihorized
der the authority 70 employ the necessary force TO
convey the documents TO the city post ofice
The PRESIDENT The resolution has been read
,ce and referred II now before the Senate
,ni,tee OF the whole
MI HALE want to call the attention oil the senator
Svho introduced this resolution 10 ONE slngle fact There
are two or three clerks employed as temporary clerks OF
the Senate, and
Mr. JONES, OF Iowa have an amendment to pro-
a Mr.. WELLER ask whether that resolution embraces
the TeporteTs'
The RRESIpgNT. PR Eg IT. L does ,s not OF; !, a.,,.,
Mr.. WALKER have an amendment 10 offer by way
OF an additional resolution
ssolusd, That there be paid under the direction OF the
Com riitee Audit and Control the Contingent Expenses
uate each member OF the respective corps OF re-
norters to he Senate, $lOO" aHae
Mr. HAMIiN / would suggest TO the senator from
Wisconsin 10 modify his amendment BY striking out
eano understand that the House have paid their re-
ror,ers $500 and think have ie better corps OF
enoers than they, and that they are entitled to as much
'oAte Mr WALKER. accept the modification
Mr.. ADAMS. Before the vote is taken upon the
amendment 10 include the reporters. beg leave TO sug-
sest 10 nv friend from Iowa Mr.. DoDGE] an objection
10 ,he original resolution There is provision in it tor
navng The folders Now unless that provision guarded
SO as 10 prevent the folding and directing OF documents
printed elsewhere and not by the authority OF Congress,
cannot vote for it. For this Congress 10 keep employed
al The public expense document folders Tor the beneh OF
the candidates OF the the other political parties as
y; now DONE and as known TO be done, wrong IN my
koonh hta indy and l. Will not consent 10
Mr. HALE. desire TO say, as there IS one presiden'
ta candidate on The floor that far as the party 10 which
he belongs concerned hey ask nohing OF mat sof
for lhemselves lLaushleLj,
Mr. DODGE, OF Iowa fhe provision in regard to
folders is precisely the that has been adopted al
every session Ii has reference to folding The Patent
Office and other reports, and such speeches as senator's
may order to The folding for the purpose OF beng
sent themselves and their constituents They have all
TO be sent there FIRST and folded.
Mr. ADAMS. Ii the resolution is guarded in the way
mentioned, by making some provision 10 prevent sen
=ators members from sending Oh to New YORK, Phia
delphia and other places and procuring political docu-
nens TO Ie sent here TO be folded in these rooms Tor
distribution sil the country, will vote for II; for
lit is well known that that has been pracllsed to consd
erabe extent here Unless the resolution Is so guarded
shall have tn insist upon offering an amendment TO IT.
Mr. DODGE, OF Iowa. 1t is as well guarded, per.
haps. II can be. Senator'S think, have the same Ilgh
If they choose to send New York and other places
and have their speeches printed there ~ send 10 hei
constituents thai they have 10 have them printed al Joh9
C. Rivess any oiher establishment IN mus sy, ana
Mr. WALKER To meet the wishes Of the senator
from Nj ssi-sppi, Mr. ADAMs,l will offer this amend
ment to come in after the words employmeni oil mes
sengers:"
In folding documents published by Congress- and such
speeches made in Congress as senators may order TO be
folded"
Mr. ADAMS That will NEE, my wishes
The PRESIDENT. The question must first be taken
on the amendment, in regard 10 the reporters.
Mr. DODGE, of Iowa wish TO call the attention OF
-. a. yl,,ssIt fka sIpsttnn
entirely new principle in regard TO compensation. No
such thing has been done from the foundation OF
this government until this day The amendment o The
senator from Wisconsin did not meet the sanction oil tue
committee Il is offered upon his own responsibility.
do not see how with proprety extend this pro-
vision embrace the private employees OF the een
temen who are engaged in conducting this busIness OF
reporting for the Senate Unless this extension s resist
ed it's effect be to break down the system OF pro-
vidng compensation altogether hope the amend.
MIR CLEMENS 1 wish 10 say, in relation to this
matter that do not believe there is TO be found more
efficient corps OF reporters anywhere han IN thus sensie
But he remembered that pay for reporting the
debates and ii is the business OF those who employ the
reporters to pay them and not ours am 80 well salts
sed with the reporters that we have that ~ very rare
ind ed that look anything that they report OF what
saw do moi time IN len see what they have re-
ported such Is my confidence 10 the accuracy OF the re.
ports But we pay certain sum for reporling and II ls
ihe business o those whom engage TO do this work
10 nav their EMPLOYEES Ii is not our business to pay
them at all. shall vote asains, the amendment
Mr. JAMES suggested 10 modify the amendment by
making the sum $3.50 instead o $500, but at the instance
of several senators Withdrew IT.
The question then REQUIRED upon the amendment pro-
possd BY Mr. WALKER, TO give $500 additional compen.
cation each member OF the respective corps o reporters
in the Senate
IJpoo this qaes,ion the yeas and nays were ordered
The uueslion being then taken upon the amendment
by yeas and nays, il agreed toyeas 2S, nays H.
as follow
YEAs-Messrs Bayard, Brodhead Brooke, Charlton,
Carse Cooper Davis, De.aussnrc, Downs Fish, Foot
Gwio Hale Hanniin, Houston, James, Jones of love,
Mason, Morton, Pratt seward Shleids ooue, sumner,
Upham Wade, Walker, and Welier-2S
NAfS-Messfs. Adams. Csss, Chase, Clemens, Dolce Of
Iowa Fclch Geyer King, Mangum, Menwether, Miller,
Norris spruance, and Underwood--ia
The question then recurred upon the adoption OF the
report and resolution OF the COMMITTEES on Contingent
Expenses amended.
Mr. MANGUM I have an amendment 10 offer as a
separate resolstion. which is as follows
Resolved That the Secretary OF the Senate be author
sed 70 employ additional clerk, who shall be- al
lowed the sans compensation as the engrossing clerk
That requires perhaps word OF explanation. II is
not increase the number of clerks now actually en-
Poyed, but for the purpose OF legazlng the contn
uauon o clerk who has been performing duty ever
SINCE as' winter, under the authority OF the Committee
on Contingent Expenses q
M, DoDSk, Of Iowa hope that amendment will
mol te adopted II IS an extraordinary time TO offer
resou on oil that sort, Just at the adjournment OF Con-
gress. II we were Just meeting here TO commence the
discharge o. our duties, which devolve upon members al
the commencement OF the session, such a resolution
might be appropriate think however that il is inap
proprlate now we nave now more clerks than we
want hope the amendment win no, be adopted
Mr.. GWlN. hope tae amendment will be adopted