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and to be expended under his direction $4,000" If
that adopted then the other appropriations Tor surveys
can be rejected when they come up Tor consideration
The question being then put upon the amendment TO
the amendment division called for but before the
result OF the vote was announced,
MIR. SHIELDS called for the yeas and nays which
The question then REQUIRED upon the amendment to
Mr. CHARLTON. only wish 10 say that the amend
ment proposed BY the senator from Michigan. Mt CAssl
as understand IL is not definite enough; VIII ead US
into great confusion; will not know how we are
vsDg. The appropriations for surveys In Inc ofgihai
bill amoua 10 forty nine thousand and some odd dollars
The appropriations proposed by The amendments OF Tue
committee amount 10 s235Oo--making In All upwards o.
S72 900. Now, is it meant by the honorable senator
from Michigan. mr. CAssl that we shall strike out
this appropriation for the Rappahannock river and insert
the gross sum of $50 900 and is that gross of $780,.
900 TO cover by implied understanding all the surveys
ordered by the amendments TO the BILL proposed by the
Committee Commerce. as well as those IN the original
bill itsefl IL 1t Is merely meant 10 cover the surveys or
dered hy the amendments OF the committee, OF then
will understand il So Or is il TO be understood that
all the appropriations for surveys. well in The original
bill as 10 the amendments OF the Committee ON Commerce.
TO be stricken OUT
+. Mr.. CASS What want is to Introduce this 100000
In lieu OF all the other appropriations for surveys, in ref
will be in the whole bill can make motion
only 10 refer TO the amendment proposed by the commit
tee Upon that propose to have the question now TAKEN
and then my amendment is adopted, as soon as we can
come to the surveys in the original BILL will move TO
strike them out so that this $4,000 Will apply TO The
whole subject Of surveys; There is an appropriation in
the bill OF $25 900 for The coast survey OF the lakes
the appropriation for The coast survey OF the ocean is IN
another bill But this is the hydographical survey Of
the lakes. and is not OF the character of the
yeys Of the harbors and rivers with view 10 internal
improvement II is for great work going upon the
upper lakes the charts OF which are being got ready for
fSMr UNDERWOOD think that the remark Of my
friend from Georgia Mr. CHARLToN] conclusive against
this smendment II YOU adop. the amendment Of my
friend from Michigan, Mr. CAss it will work this
suit, his $50 900 will not be sufficient 10 make the sur.
veys contemplated here according to The bill.
Mr.. CASS Yes il will
Mr.. UNDERWOOD How can that be
Mr.. CASS. know from actual experience that this
$4,000 will do as much good as 100000 applied as pro-
posed by the bill for most OF the persons interested in
the surveys will raise great deal OF money hemselv TO
Mr UNDERWOOD. know that tina, is the opinion Of
he honorable senator II he ID correct in his opinion,
hen il only follows that the committee have put in too
much for the accomplishment of the work contemplated
But If they have not estimated then be iswong and
that the Secretary OF War will have the right expend
The money thus given in the accomplishment OF his favor
lite improvements while all the rest will be unattended
for then he would make the selection just he pleased
or none al all. just as he pleased. And il he should
happen TO be one Of these gentlemen who view the con
stlution very differently from what do, he will not
pend a dollar, and we will have no surveys at all. Be-
sides, it is discretion which Congress ought 10
part with and give any executive officer. thus taking
from us that legislative power which is vested in by
the constitution, and which think we ought never to
p"Ml Mr.. BoRLAND. rise merely 10 make a suggestion
to my honorable friend from Kentucky [Mr. UsDER-
wooDl who has just taken his seat Ii strikes me
something very extraordinary that when the honorable
senator from Michigan Mr. CAss proposes by this APP
preparation OF money, inrusl the exercise OF dscre-
onary power 10 this administration, OF the friends OF
that administration should get up here and oppose upon
me as very extraordinary The honorable senator says
that this is power that Congress ought 10 part with
Yet that senator voted not only 10 give 100000 the
administration to be expended in the construction of the
extension OF this CAPITOL but he also voted at this
son TO give 100000 more to be expended al the dscre
ton OF the Executive; and have no doubt tina, at the
Dext session Of Congress he will vote $500 900 more
oil to be expended by the Executive let entirely to the
discretion OF the Executive. Now, why should not
give to the Secretary OF War the discretion 10 expend
S3000O-lhe only person, under the circumstances, who
can be supposed TO exercise proper regard and sound
discretion in regard to this matter. Now, it strikes
me as very strange that the honorable senator should
suppose that the Secretary had not discretion enough 10
expend $50, 000
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. It does seem astonishing to me
that my friend from Arkansas Mr.. BoRLAND1 can so
misunderstood me. did not say one word about not
trusting this administration. Does he know that the
money can be expended by this administration |, may
take years 10 accomplish this work. l made no such
Observation-Disclosures at all THIS money may fall into
the hands of my friends favoriies, and the dsust OF the
Executive, il felt any. might be supposed TO refer to
them. he ought 10 have recoecied that stated dis
tncty that If the occupant of that Office one of
those who had different political opinions from
my own, he might exercise his discretion spend
no money at all upon these surveys Why sir the ex-
pendure of this money might fall upon the admnislra-
lion of my friend before me- [Mr. HLEl Laughter. ]
Mr. HALE. IL would be perfectly safe then, laugh
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. | am glad to hear that One
more remark, and am done. My friend says that au
thonzed this administration TO expend money in building
This Capitol Why, sir that selection OF an object by
the Executive Congress determined upon the object
we are about do here; and when The object determined
upon there must be little discretion given TO The Off
Ger intrusted with the wc. And yet The astue intellect
Of my Trend cannot perceive that the whole matter is
Teconcilabe in that way
Mr.. BRADBURY. We have expended the whole day
IN determining who shall have The direction OF The ex.
pendure OF some $50 600 The appropriation bills have
nearly all OF them acted upon by the House and sent
10 the Senate Now, If the debate upon this matter is to
ake so wide range this, perfectly obvious that
cannot act upon the necessary appropriation bills be-
lore our hna adjournment Ii has occurred 10 me that
n,s whoe discussion has proceeded upon the idea that
tbefe was TO he no hereafer-tba were 10 have no
opportunity IN future 10 correct anything that might be
wrong ~ the appropriations at this time Suppose we
should continue the system as proposed by The honora
pie senator from Michigan, Mr. CAssl and leave TO The
10 determine where they should expend this
sinai amount oil money in surveys and the department
sbouii abuse That power: will IL not be competent for
US az another session TO that abusei Or is this
question so important that should occupy so much
ume and make so many explanations we are now do
ing before we take the vote hope may be permit
yea 70 take The vote upon this and upon other questions
upon The presumption that gentlemen can now vote upon
Their own understanding OF the questions before u.s.
MT HALE moved that the Senate adjourn
lhe question being then taken upon a division il was
not agreed 10, as foows-ayes ~, noes not counted
The question then required upon the amendment pro-