The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-08-19
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slsstion. This was their third meeting. The ques-
sisn for discussion resolution proposed on the
p~syious evening, by Mr.. Magagnos 10 question the
candidates Of the two parties, the wing and the
asneeratic.
Mr.. Daniel Willis presided, and Mr. David G..
Csoly was appointed Secretary.
The question being called up, DR., Young opposed
Ne resolution, it useless TO question the de-
Noerauc candidates, who would stick to their plat-
tsxn. Pierce had already declared his deteFmina-
Ton to answer no questions.
Mr.. MAaAGSos then addressed the meeting, and
mid, we are now on the eve Of very great event,
which takes place every four years. The question
now before us is not one of selfish interest; it COM
vrsAends that grand idea that the land was made
fg man to live upon IT. Inc question now arises
which party shall we support Both parties are
evenly balanced, and which side of the scales shall
We throw our body into, seeing we are a most inau-
sstial party? Which of the Two parties, the wings
Or the democrats, have done the most good for the
people? l say the wings have. The land reformers
hare for some time past supported or the other
81 these parties, expecting in return to DO rewarded
bat it was all fallacy lie then contrasted the
wings and democrats, praising the wings for the
reason that they always carried out their measures
whereas the democrats had always failed to do so.
He said, that in South Carolina, which was demo-
srAtic State, and had been always considered as
sueh-in this State where the great John c.. Cal
Asun hved-it was well known that the people had
lass liberty than in any other State Of the Union.
The people there could not vote for President
or Vice President of the United States; the voting
Asisg all performed by delegates. 1t was now
the time to choose which of these parties land re-
formers should support. He then urged the neces-
Gty Of doing something important at once, and not
10 be putting it of from day to day. Something
nust be done Immediately. Now is the time.
l.. w. RYcKMAN then commenta upon the two
parties, but was decidedly in favof OF the wings.
Ne said that land reformers did not any loaves
sr 6shes, any Offices whatever; but it his can
did opinion that they would have to hope from
ths wings than the democrats, The wings carried
into effect all their measures and the democrats did
not. Therefore, he expected more from the wings
than the democrats. Indeed, there was not great
deal Of difference between the two parties only in
The name, which was meant to catch voters. He
thought that they should not get any assistance
from Fras kiln Pierce. He was the enemy of land
reform, and of his most important principles was
that no land should be given away. He then refer
red to the vast tide of emigration that flowing
INTO this country, and said journeymen asked for
apprentices work, and apprentices wages, because
foreigners worked so low that they were obliged to
do SO. And the children of those journeymen were
obliged to leave their fathers to beg aims in the
public streets. They sent to Europe heavy and
substantial goods; but Europe sent light
and cargoes Of idle people in return, crowding this
country to an alarming extent. He then alluded
to The democrats and said that they were true to
their principles, they would abolish the Custom
House department, and If they did this, it would be
truly democratic. (Applause)
MIR. CRAwLEY said he was surprised at the tone
Of the last speech. The Germans and Irish were
land refoImers, but they were not wings, and if
the land reformers espousc the cause of the wings
they will drive of the Germans and Irish from their
eanse. 1t is well known that the Germans arc in
6voT ofinervention and they are also, for the most
part, democrats; but the platform Of the wings de-
nonnced intervention He thought the democrats
would be more injured in the great States by the
land reiormcrs going for the third party the Pitts
kEg movement.
Mr.. SPRAeUE said he thought it was too late to
FORM a third party, and there was more to be ex-
peeted from the wings than the democrats. One of
the latter party told him that day that the land
formers were all pack of thieves, and that they
might 60 to hell and forth For his part, he was
N favor Of Scott, who had declared himself in favor
OF land reform, and he would vote against Pierce,
uhe was opposed to 1T.
Mr.. GEORGE II EVANS, Of n. j., was here loudly
called for, ard responded to the call by saying be
agreed with the first part Of the resolution He was
70 convince him that the land reformers should
change their position. There were two classes Of
hand reformers-oDe class always voted with their
party or with that psrty that they hoped would be
only vote for the candidate pledged to land reform
The resolution, therefore, takes the right ground
with regard to that part of the resolution that
proposes that they should question the candidates,
This he did not think politic for it would be better
that the Industrial Congress should do it. With
regard to the Homestead bill, though he concurred
N the eensure expressed against the mem bers of the
Senate who voted against that measure, he did not
regret its defeat, for it was not SO good as it
night have been, and lie hoped that next
time better measure would be proposed, and
carried, too. He insisted upon pledges being given
In addition to platforms, or anything candidates
had previously said. He would not support even
the candidate Of the Pittsburg Convention unless
he pledged himself II he do not pledge himself and
be found somewhere and class, at least, of the
national reformsrs will vote for him. The other
class viii take their choice Of the wing or demo-
cratic party, and in that case he would wish them
be to vote for the candidate Of the third party
pledged TO land reform, and to set up that candi-
date themselves if necessary.
Mr.. DEvYR, northern 1rishman, residing at Will
Harrisburg, said be thought that the man who could
hesitate to which Of the two parties he would vote
for, was no land reformer at all. Both equally
corrupt; but the wings were more favorable to land
reform at the present moment. The delay Of the
committee Of the Senate in bringing forward the
report, was to gain time to arrange o compromise
between the wing and democratic Senators TO defeat
the bill, in order that the odium OF rejecting the
measure might not attach exclusively to one party
That vote was nota true test vote II was like the
humbug printing contracts; and be hoped that a
test vote would yet be taken that there might be
no excuse left to Senators who professed to be IN
faver Of land reform. Did they expect anything
from the principles disposition Of the WING party,
who were undoubtedly the representatives Of the
srstociscy! No; he rather locked to the democra-
c-the true dtInOcIhcy. not the bDaIn democracy
k aid their cause They were not to be baAled by
the lodgings Of the Senate. II foreign intervention,
with g the con of bis uncle" at its head, invaded
ths country with drawn swords, the people would
walk through them like whrlwind (Applause)
And would they suffer the Fclches to treat them in
this manner No; they would strike them with
death ss bad as the death Of the invaders-a poti-
cal death for ever. applause lie believed that
the Pittsburg Convention you'd not affect the wings
or democrats, as it would take equal number Of
votes from both, ard they would 20 to the sham
battle on the I'd Of November as comfortably as il
that third party did not exist, because if Il take
10000 votes from party il wild take 10 600 from
the other. They would, therefore, ere their blank
cartridge at each other snd laugh il their sleeves.
But let the land reformers fro a volley
of lead into one Of these par les, and thus de-
eide the fate Of the day The wings did not
care for land reform, but the Land reformers ough
10 use the wings for their own purposes. The way to
them, TO vote for them, and thus elicit thci