The daily union., 1852-05-11

sncelled Great Britain in the other branch OF trade and
therefore there no reason TO suppose shall not
equally succeed IN maintaining this also
Mr. BORLAND. would like TO ask question Of
The senator IRON New York. ] wish 10 know whether
he states il as fact that the Collins and CunaId steam
eTs. both plying between Liverpool and New York, pay
different price for the labor they employ, for the fuel
they consume. and pay also different rate OF interest
thai is, are We 10 understand II 10 be The ac IN the
business transactions OF this country compared with
those OF England that the business operations OF two
lines OF steamers owned and directed by intelligent bust
ness men. sustained and conducted al double the ex
pense 10 one above that OF The other' In other words
are we TO understand that when insurance offices
open in England and in the United States Mr. Cunard
gets his steamers insured for per cent and Mr. Collins
pays per cent for The insurance OF his Or the price
OF coal in the United States being double what it is in
England, are we TO understand that Mr. Collins. while
countries, in buying his coal has pay for il double
the amount that Mr.. Cunard pays l-or that he pays
double the amount for his sailors and oficersl II such
be the facts. 10 my mind they very striking and
toDishing facts, and would like TO know whether they
Mr.. JONES, Of Tennessee: Mr. President, do not
mean 10 detain the Senate, and certainly have the
slightest idea Of saying more Than said in the opening
renark that made which is simply to desire informa
on But confess .he u'Ger 60 .as MORSE = se ,s rs
%slE he senator from New York that does 60 to
count for this difference but want to know from that
senator and the particular friends OF this measure the
claim for the support asked for by this proposition to
rest upon the ground that he assues II so, and that
senator any friend OF this will withdraw this
proposition, and make il general law, applicable to
every such case tell him will 20 for il heart and hand
for is just the doctrine that have advocated all my po
litical life-he doctrine OF protection The senator
from New York predicates it upon the ground. and the
only ground my judgment, upon which il can be
tanned; and the only difficulty my mind in sustaining
it is that special law; whereas am in favor OF
making general He says the difference is this that labor
in England is lower than here. That is the very argu-
ment have always used n favor oi protection to Amer
there is much less than herehe very argument have
always employed favor OF giving protection to Ameri-
Of the measure and will 60 for it heartily provided you
make it general and applicable to all similar enterprises
But the gentleman from Texas made remark that
struck II was this Ia attempting 10 account for this
difference, and TO assign why the Cunardes could
afford to for much less money than the Collins line
he said the difference was to be found in part in the fact
that they made many trips and thereby secured
larger amount of patronage both of transport
alton OF persons and property. Well admit that to be
true and il that argument can be maintained. then all
that Mr. Collins has to do is to four five times
as many trips, four or five times many vessels,
in order to monopollze the whole thing Now we
are told in this argument that Mr.. Collins cannot af-
ford because he il losing $40 600 every trip
Well, according to the argument Of the senator from
Texas he has only 10 multiply his trips. and thereby
cure the patronage which will put him beyond the
siiy OF patronage OF support from the government
But another argument used by that senator is this; He
assigns another reason why this line has not yet sue
ceeded, that there s nAmercan feeling which dis
regards the Collins line and sustans the Cunarders.
that all have TO say is that the man who dsre
gards the American line violates great principle OF ma
onay, according TO the argument OF the senator from
North Carolina. But surely no man will deny to an
American citizen the right to give his patronage TO whom
ne anc r wnen we near o. ss Is, ny
OF this outrage If they choose TO give their patronage
to Cunard instead OF Collins, and the argument brought
here that the government shall nerpose and come uE
with its mighty arm to this fragrant outrage
know if that does resolve itself back into that
great, and glorious, and haowed principle of giving pro-
lection to American labor industry and enterprise Put
il upon that ground, and am with you. Make gen.
law, and let give protection to American industry
an all ,s various departments, and willing to sit here
till next Christmas to accomplish that great purpose,
gentlemen will aid me. But am not willing TO make j
speci6c-to give aid individual to isolated
company to the neglect OF every other interest in th
Mr. HALE. Mr. President, it is getting rather late
Mr.. CASS. Move to adjourn; we shall get no vo'
upon the question Today.
Several SENATORS. Oh, no.
Mr. HALE said it was getting late, and everybod.
cries out "Oh. no." insist upon il. it is late.
Mr. CASS Move TO adjourn.
Mr. HALE have sat very patiently
Several Senator's. Move TO adjourn
Mr. HALE. Well, then, ! move that the Senate ad
The question being taken on the motion to adjourn
division, the Chair announced ID voting in the airma
tive. ta
Mr. BORLAND. demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered
The question being then taken by yeas and nays o
the motion to adjourn, they sioodyeas ~, nays 2sa
follows; ns
YEAS--Messrs Atchson, Borland, Brodhead, Brooke
Cass fech, Geyer Hsmlin Jones of Iowa. Jones OF Ten
nessee Mallory Mason Norris Sebastian, Sumner, Walker
NAYS--Messrs Adams, Badger, Bayard, Bell, B.nieu
Bradbury, Clarke, Dodge OF Wisconsin, Dodge OF lows
Douglas, Fish, Gwin, Houston, Hunter, James, Mangum
Miller Pesfce, Pratt Rusk, Seward Shields, smith, Stock
Ton, Underwood, UPham, Wade. and Weller-2s.
SO the motion was lost
Mr.. BELL Mr. President, had made some prepara
ion few days ago TO give my views at length upon thi
subject, but have dismissed all intention OF doing
oil the anxiety of the Senate to dispose OF hi
honorable gentlemen on this floor with whom shoul
be glad TO agree that should in a few words In
ground upon which had expected TO give my support
this proposition the shape which hope II will assume
believe stated to the senator from North Carolina Nj
BADoERl this morning, that unless the amendment wa
modified in some shape could not give my suppor
and perhaps the proposition which is offered by the hon
orable senator originated in part from my suggestion
have desired from the FIRST both upon principle, and
suspect great deal upon feeling to sustain this Collin
line but have said TO OF the earnest friend
and advocates of the from the FIRST that though
il would be more judicous that this proposition shoul
be brought forward in shape somewhat different fror
that in which il presented Now do not pretend
have any intimate acquaintance with what the cost @
running these lines ought be, the cost OF buildn
these ships ought be- the probable losses that hav
been sustained may be expected TO be susianed no
am capable of calculating myself what Is the amour
of sapport which this line must receive IRON the govern
ment II il is sustained; but have knowledge enough
and gather il from the papers that have been read her
and from the discussion OF honorable gentlemen Ito b
satia6ed in my mind that the running OF the Collin
line NJ this time does not cost S65,Oo0 voyage and II