The daily union., 1852-08-14

friend from Georgia said that he tell be his duty to
defend e administration before the subject should TO
the Committee Foreign Relations; and then my friend
IRON North Carolina MIR BADerRl said that whatever
might have been The issue anterior TO what has occurred
to-day tie Grafton of The honorable senator from Louis
iana and the charges that bad beeB made by him,
derei absolutely necessary that there should be granted
10 the friends OF the administration opportunity 70 de-
lend against what charged by thai senator was
not who said thai the charge was that OF anil American
cling; but IS to be attributed 10 the senators who made
| Mr.. SEWARD Mr. President you will recollect that
rose and was proceeding 10 address the Senate should
before This me poDaoly have considerably advanced in
the subject hal been permitted 90 on but senators
interrupted me- preertDg tnat the subject should be post
poned until other day then said that il the SEN
ate preferred II, would speak tomorrow. Senators
again inerposed, and expressed preference for day
further OIL, aid acceded TO the longer time.
Now itseens that although was ready to proceed IN
the beg inning, am to be allowed opportunity speak
al all either to-day any other lime. | ask the Sen
ate to postpone the subject until to morrow, want no
time to prepare. can well prepared Tomorrow as
al any oher tune. II 10 morrow is not agreeable 10 the
Senate, let be postponed untl any day which does suit
| them.
MI BADGER Say Saturday
Mr.. SEWARD. Honorable senators mention Satur.
day Very well lei II be Saturday move TO postpone
the further consideration OF the subject until Saturday
next, and make il the special order for that day.
| Mr.. SOULE Mr. President, my silence might be
msconsrued deem il necessary 10 say few words in
reply to the remarks which have been presented 10 the
consideration of the Senate since resumed my seat. To
the honorable senator from Michigan. Mr.. CAss,l
would say that he has entirely msconceived what in
to the opinion entertained by my friend from Maine, Mr.
HAMLrN in reference to the construction 10 be placed on
the treaty. He had admitted that the meaning OF the
words referred TO in the treaty might be susceptible OF the
construction placed upon them by the Secretaryof State
But remarked too that he had soon denied the correct
of that construction, and nobly vndcated the true
meaning OF the treaty II in reference to this vnd
cation OF the American construction, solely and exclusive
ly that alluded the remarks OF the honorable senator
from Michigan. being in accordance with the position
taken by the senator from Maine When the honorable
goes and speaks of the secondary bearings oi
hia a.hi inha nv ha akas
also the point had intended to present. merely meant
TO limit myself 10 that portion OF his speech which treated
Of the situation OF America under the treaty OF 1918 and
was in that view and in that view alone that qua-
fled those rights which he had so noby defended, as be-
ing secondary rights IN OF the primary
rights upon which had placed my main reliance in the
view had taken OF the question So much for the hon
orable senator from Michigan,
As to my honorable friend from South Carolina [Mr,
BUTLER, am sorry that we should disagree about any
thing which may have had occasion TO express connex
ion with this matter but without attempting TO
swer the suggestions that have fallen from him, he will
allow me 10 entertain the hope that when he has
thoroughly investigated the subject he will hnd that the
whole and the only question TO be debated here is.
whether under any circumstances England or anybody
else claim any dominion at all the bays, gus,
creeks, harbors that are beyond three marine miles
from her coast The position which meant TO assume
was, that the Bay OF Fundy, as well as the bay OF Cha
eur and the straits OF Northumberland. were seas TO all
nients and purposes and that Eng could claim over
them right OF supremacy that they as free aud
open TO fishermen, and TO every man under the
sun, as to English subjects
But the question, all probability from the turn which
the debate has taken, will have to be discussed again and
when comes proper shape-reduced TO those terms
that will make it tang be-l shall be ready 10 meet it,
and to attend 10 the objections which have been ntmated
TO some parts OF my speech.
| There have been some allegations here-or, at all
events, If those allegations have not been made, il was
under mlslpprehension OF the honorable senator from
Maryland Mr. PRArTl that they suggested-tha in
my remarks, had charged the administration with a
want OF American feeling in lis appreciation OF the im
pending difficulties am al loss 10 account for such
nsapprebenson. twill be found by those who may do
the peruse the fugitive remarks which have pre-
sen,ed 10 the Senate that there not word there which,
N 10 my sentiment, and sure the sentiment OF the
whole Senate, will 20 10 incrmInate any person. |
repeled The supposnon that certain things coming from
the newspapers, and from The afoat around
u.s. could be founded in truth. merely pre~eated The
question as il was being spread to the whole world
through the agency OF this government ITSELF and.
commenting upon II, venlured 10 give, as had a right
10 do, my opinion OF the which II would be-
come the government 10 puisIe in relation TO H. if such
should prove to be the real OF the case.
II As my right TO do hardly conceive that any
member OF this hody can question IT. Why, sir, the
parliamentary history OF England is full Of instances Of
motions for communications oi papers by The Executive
They are The usual means through which parliamentary
body enabled to approach questions which otherwise
! would escape It's reach and be hey yond lis action Il IS
said cannot express opinion upon these matters
until know how they have been acted II that be
rue-ii the principle be corIec-hen the original reso
luton of the senator from Virginia was wrong; for
may have 10 consider these matters In executive
sion, and there alone II the proposition were correct
one, could we permit ourselves 10 enter luo any details
hls proceeding has that know Of been questioned
either 10 It's expedlency TO its parliamentary
appropriateness Il clearly within the terms OF those
powers which vested in us And when motion is
before upon The question TO refer the information OBJ
tanned to a committee, then is the proper time for discuss
ing how lar the interest OF the country be benefited
by further action upon it.
i That beibg my view OF the subject, and prompted be-
sides by the consideration that IL but Justice that
ample opportunity be afforded those aors intend
TO address The Senate and answer the positions which
have taken this morning, shall for The motion TO
postpone, that honorable senators have time ta
prepare speeches. and deliver them whenever it will
n suit their convenience.
position in reference my friend from Louisiana Mr.
SoULE | narrowed the proposition down 10 this :
whether England the United States of America could,
By treaty stipulation, make that Bay OF Fondy the
other bays either English American Now, my
friend is rights they are open then Vt Is not
pelent for these powers by treaty 10 do it
Il Several SENATORS Question; question.
The PRESD DENT. Does the senator from Maryland
call for the yeas and naysl
\ Mr.. PRATT. | want them upon the proposition to
\ refer.
4 The PRESIDENT This is TO postpone till Saturday.
Mr. WALKER Which motion has precedence
u The PRESIDENT. Tue motion to postpone.
II Mr.. SEWARD. The original question TO refer
and the proposition is TO postpone that motion TIL
4 Saturday.
4 The PRESIDENT That motion, OF course, takes pre-
csdence
i Mr. CLEMENS | wish TO ask a question, because,
being OF the Senate for few moments, | do not
know exactly the in which the question stands
understand, however, that the from New York
has requestetba this subject should be postponed