The daily union., 1852-10-01

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That gentleman, too, fipm his assocationsior have
no doubt be has associations aud il he has not he knows
he .spiecedens Of that distinguished man who ~ ne
wbx candidate we'll enough 10 know thai he will faith
fully carry out all the provisions Of The eonshuon with
a. much fdelI!! as The candidate Of his party
Mi. CLEMENS. Win The senator allow me TO ask
Ths fRESiDENT. The Chair should probably have
inlsdered with The senator from Indiana
Mr. COOPER ! was about 70 say ma !.
the discussion should take such wide range.
Mr., CLEMENS. Imerey wish to ask question !
know the senator from Pennsylvania has been sound,
and has been true upon all these questions want him
10 tell me and the Senate whether he Scott man
and ii he not. why he noi'
The PRESIDENT. The question is not one OF that
10 bound to answer The Chair trusts that this discus
sion will NO, proceed further. He has been unwilling to
arrest the senator from Pennsylvaaia. nasmuch as he
Mr.. COOPER was not. i is true. Scott man be-
fore The meeting OF the Whig Convention.
Mr. CLEMENS, knew il. ,.,
Mr. COOPER. But lei me tell the senator that whilst
Ibid give my preference TO another, all the time, on all
occasions proiessed knowledge of the views OF Gene
sl Scott upon that sabec and stated 70 every oody a
they sound Yes, sir. the senator's from NORM Gar
Olina Mr. MANGUM and Mr.. BADGERl and The senator
from Maryland Mr.. PEARcEl knew IT,
One word now in relation 10 the compromise meas
ures. have been in favor OF them, and most OF my
constuensof both parties in favor OF them, and ihey
will stand by them did vote for the fugitive slave
law i was not because dlsaPpIoved the prne,ple OF y
m0ny We discussed about II and would have voted
for il il il had had provision in il which we both de-
believe that there could have been others intro
duced, which would have been made more eieclual But
shall vote aganst the amendment OF the senator from
Massachuss.,s and shall vote Tor he proposition Of
by me in all that do, and instead OF reproyiDg me, as
they might once have been disposed to do, when they
find that the war is made upon the sacred instrument
which they regard The charter OF their Liberties, they
MI. CLEMENS, have only word to say, and it
s in reference statement which the senator has made
that he did vote for the fugveslave law lie said
that he conferred with The senator from Mchgan and il
is very possible that he conferred with me- do not
know that he did but think possible, for we were in
the habit OF having free interchange OF opinion about
that time. desire the country TO know the facts IN
relation 10 the matter The senator from Pennsy lvana
and the senator from Michigan. as understood at the
tme both desirous that there shoad be provision
in the ugiIive-save bill that The slave should have The
right OF trial BY jury in The State from which he had es
Nj. COOPER. Yes, sir.
Mr.. CASS. That is correct
Mr.. CLEMENS. Well. majority of southern nen
and portion OF northern voted against that pro
vision. Very possibly did myself am moi altogether
certain. but rather think did vote against it but il
upon the ground that they had that right already
that there not State in the southern portion OF The
Union which did not give them that right already, and
that il unnecessary to attach 10 that bill desire
the country to know that that the reason why sew
era OF our democratic friends did not vote Tor the ugl
tive.slave law. We OF the South voted against that
provision because we had it already. They OF the North
said TO that that fact should be known at the North
and that would not be known unless was attached TO
Mr.. CASS. Mr. President, think the time has come
when, without any mpuiation upon me, can tell all
about the fugitive-slave law Nobody will charge me
now with any uerior object one way the other But
viii tell the whole story AS 10 my feelings and ef-
ofts during the pendency Of the compromise Measures
be anxiety that manifested the exertons that made,
and the motives which influenced mel need not say one
word TO the Senate. They all know them. need not
say TO the Senate that there was more anxious
than was Tor settlement OF this queston--no man
who believed that the country was more in peril And
now am not among those wise men who, when the
danger is oveT say they believe there was none. be-
lieve that there was danger. ! thought so then. To
speak in ordinary language, was almost frightened TO
death. That is the plain truth, and when honorable
senator from Mississippi, no, here very high
minded and honorable man, said TO me, would you do so
and 20 10 save the Union proposing extreme meas
ure. told him would go almost any length, do almost
anything in the world TO the Uniou would have
vosd or twenty iugilive slave laws, If had believed
the safety of the Union depended upon my doing so.
viii the fact, that the why did not tell it
sooner was. that did not think my own sell respect
would justify me in doing SO, My friends knew all
charged with bidding for public favor. despise such
motive. No such thing now be ascribed 10 me,
and therefore will tell the whole story.
When we came here al the commencement oil the last
long session OF Congress- was more urgent than
was TO have efficient fugivesla law passed. be-
lieve OF the earliest who mentioned the subject
the Senate. said that all other business should be
laid aside for lhahat IL the great and crying evil
OF the South which the northern and middle States OF
the Union should remedy. On OCCASION early in the
session. the senator IRON Indiana not in his seat
Mr WHITCoMB.] and myself had conversation the
subject; and went to General Fooie and requested
him TO see the southern senators and tell them IRON us
that NJ any moment they indicated, should be willing
and glad 10 take up their bill, and put through stringent
fugitive slave law There has been difficulty about
the sstemen of that fact General Fooe reported to us
that the southern gent emen would not agree TO it, That
rs al have 10 say about IT, have nofurher voucher
to that fact here than the honorable senator frorn
Pennsyi vanla who knows all about IL as well as do
So things went till about the middle OF the session
thcn Inquired in speech how lar we ought 10 go !;
and said we ought to give the South very stringent
Law. said expressly that would not allow a writ oil
h0bes corpus to stay proceedings and would not allow
Hal By jury in the place where the fugitive slave was
When the committee OF thirteen on the compromise
measures began their labors, gentlemen here know,
thsfe WAS proposition made for stringent fugitive
seemed to be acceptable great majority OF the peo-
pie and II contained the main features OF The law il
now u. with a provision that IT, when fugitive slave
was taken, he should assert that be slave, the
after he made his decision in favor OF the
master should repeat the question TO the fugitive "Do
You persist in denying that you slave y and he
said that he not slave, the provision that the
security, that within given period alter The return
that slave should be entitled to trial by jury in The
county from which he had escaped Now, could
conceive, and mortal could explain TO me,
why that should not have been put into the bill.
Mr. CLEMENS ]. was the law already in nearly il