The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-08-19

Us eHsets He concluded BY saying that they oasht
10 hold the democratic majority In the senate ao-
eountsble il that bill was ultimately dsfea,eo
Mr.. j. X INGALLS,. said be did not zee the iorce
Of the reasoning that hing could be aone exos pc
by joining one Of the two great parties. For his
part, he hoped for nothing from either Neither OF
them AZ party ever gave an imp h s 70 sne iaaa
that the Germans who democrats and in favor
Of foreign intervention, would not join the whig
party 20 matter what might be the platform. II was
The spos and the corruption produced by the spoiis,
that Constituted the grand obstacle every reform
He had no sympathy with the democratic party. He
was he would not vote for Pierce, neither would
he vote for Scott, unless he proved himself land
reforner, and more than that unless he true to
the great interests of humanity and avowed himself
favorable 10 sound foreign policy. In reference to
dependence on either of the parties, he advered to
the fable Of the horse who sought the assistance of
man 10 conquer the lion, but ridden by man for
the rest of his life He did not know that he could
vote for Hale for he know nothing Of the Pittsburg
organization. What he proposed was, that they
should form an agraran league. Few Of the land
opposite side, and theirvotes would be thrown away
unless they were united on candidate put forward
by themselves.
Mr.. WILLIAM WEST said he went to Pittsburg ms a
land refe.mer, and therefore get Scott nominated
The platform at Pittsburg was perfect, but the
ninee was imperfect He was not the right man
for the wings If it had been 8. p. Chase, it would
have damaged the democrats, particularly in Ohio,
and land refOrmers would have gone for him, but as
he was not nominated, and John P. Hale got the
nomination in spite Of himself there other al
tentative left than to 60 directly for Scott who
not wing on wing patform--lr oars Of laughter)-
but stood on platform he had formed for himself
good land reform platform (aenewed laughter)
General Scott had proved himself land reformer.
Where was General Pierce! He was silent as the
grave. He was nowhere. 1t was pretty well un-
went there expressly to aid the election of General
Scott; but he was defeated He would tell them
how the thing was done. The ''litte giant Doug
lag, wrote letter to Judge Spalding, Of Ohio. to
would go for Pierce, but if Chase was nominated the
State would 60 for Scott. Spaldipg, who protested
to be no party man, or rather, to belong to
the third party, availed himself Of the hint. and
secured the nomination Of John P. Hale. 1t was
their duty, therefore, to 60 now for Scott There
was another reason why they should do so.
Scott was backed up by Billy Seward, and they
all knew what Stewards principles were. Some
body referred to the tone of the articles in
the wing papers on land reform. There was power
full article on the subject in magazine for the month
OF June, and though there was no name at the head
OF 1t, he happened to know that Horace Greeley
the writer 1t had been said that he (Mr. West)
was bought by the wings and went to Pittsburg to
do their bidding. This he would not reply to-he
would only cay that he avowed he went there to Sc
Of Ohio
Mr.. BAILy said the reason why the land reformers
were not the second party instead Of third party,
or rather in the position ofattachng themselves to
tblld party was that they never organized till it
too aIe and II they proceeded in this way they would
never be one step further in advance till the day of
Judgment. The two parties ere both alike and
there was 10 principle at stake between them No
thing Of niggerism or abolition. They were, there
FORE free to take either side for the present. and this
was the only course left for them. They should join
one OF the two parties and not throw away their
votes on the Pittsburg party or its nominee.
Mr.. YOUNG said he was at the Pittsburg Conven-
yuoc ana nf %1a &LaNo
set on foot in the country, and it would be the only
opposition party in the campaign after the present
election. Its platform was all that was just and
beautiful. Now it was their duty to vote for the
CANDIDATE OF that party, or if not, to vote for Scott
and give the corrupt democrats q whipping that
would cure them of their vices II required two de-
feats IN succession to bring them to their senses
Mr.. SHARRoT said he hoped nothing would be
done tonight, as 1t was suggested that the Indus
trial congress should question the candidates. He
was not In favor Of any of the platforms, and as for
the Plttsburg party, it would be only throwing
away their votes to 60 for it. He had never voted
for wing in his life but if Scott came out man
fully he would secure hundreds of votes for him in
the Ninth ward, OF if Pierce came out, he was will
ing to GO for him, or if the Senate would still do its
duty and pass the bill, be would be satisfied. If
Scott came out for land reform and got their nomi-
every ward.
The SECRETARY then said he would, with the
leave OF the meeting, withdraw his resolution, and
substitute more practical one. His object WIS to
elicit discussion and that object had been attained
Mr.. ABRAHAM G.. LEVY moved that it be laid
over, as nc bad not yet opportunity Of speaking
on the subject.
This proposition was agreed to, and the resolution
was laid over.
The SECRETARY then moved that the United
States Senate be called on to take fna test vote
MIR. DEvYR said he had drawn up one to the same
effect, that was perhaps more explicit. He then
resd and moved the followipg:-
Whereas, We do not regard the recent vote ON the mo-
on Of Senator Walker TO lay aside all other business and
take up the Homestead bill full and fair test of its
strength in the Senate. Therefore,
Resolved That this meeting request the friends Of the
measure in the Senate to bring again before the cham
Der, under the most favorable circumstances that time
and occasion viii allow.
Mr. MAGAGNos opposed the motion, as delay was
Tust what the Senate wanted. He moved us a sub
stitute that meeting should be called on Wcdnes-
day evening next, TO decide what candidates they
would support.
Mr.. DEyYR-what will this do
VoIcE-It is n wing trap
Mr. DEvyR--The house will be flled with Office
seekers, if q particular night is fixed.
MIR. BrNJ. PRICE was OF the same opinion. They
had tonight the real representatives Of the land
form party--the men who attended these meetings
FOR eight years-but If they fxod o night next week
for final decision, they would be swamped by out
siders.
The motion Of Mr. Magagnos was tLen pat and
lost.
The resolution ofMr. Devyr, to request the Senate
to give the measure final test vote, was then
adopted, and committee was appointed for the
purpose Of carrying cut the rcsolution--Gcorge II.
Evans, Thomas ;. Devyr, ard David G.. Croly.
The meeting then adjourned to Tuesday evening
next.
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