The daily union., 1852-03-12

Nj, cAss. Certainly butI can refuse . .D,,,
Mr. SEWARD. | wish to inquire, il ri.
specific appropriation, will II be made any mo,. ID
changing il from resolution OF the Senate 10 ~.
OF both housesl Ouo
MIR. CASS. MIR. President, allow me II !.
honorable senator that this has nothing 10 AZ ~
Specific appropriations are not made by The as,o," "A
Senate They are made by the action Of M Ssoa
the House OF Representatives, with The sanr,os .
President Al the commencement OF our his,o1 y
customary TO appropriate so many millions for M
Who would venture al this day TO ask or "a :. y
the army J We now appropriate so much Ior ~
ence so much for clothing, 50 much for ihe ~ ~
soldiers, so much for the medical department III
much for each, with view, so far as SPECIFIC am
lions can be made, TO check any abuses thai msS NV
erwise creep in That IS the object of specific aps'
tions. No man pretends that II Is necessary IA s
beforehand every item. No man supposes ibst -
do it, In this as in every constitutional goyernns'
can establish the amount Of each appropriation ~ n
object TO which IL is 10 be applied. and you then NJ
accounting officers responsible Tor the proper Am
ment OF the money and this can be done when m
counts are rendered The senator from NouL ~ Y
appropriations we're useless
Mr. MANGUM, lin his seat) No, sir.
MIR. CASS thought that was the subs,an,, Il
remark respecting MIR. KING
MIR. MANGUM. My remark was with repanl
course he pursued. Snch appropriations would w.
len interfere with and cripple the public service
MIR. CASS The quibble has come down u !,
half a century, and il will continue 10 90. in nv oN
as long we are a government Why, spnnoa
should undertake to say that ffly.two millions N
appropriated Tor the expenses OF the goyetnmen, \
leave the Executive 10 apply II, is there any man in
gress who would advocate such measurei # wo,S
hooled out, or the public voice would hoo, US ou NJ
nearer you come, then, 10 specific appropriations !. u
case, the nearer you get TO what isIght and proper
| repeat that the question put by the Honorable ssn
| from New York [Mr. SEWARD missales The NV
question in dispute between US. Ii is a simple ouss.N
OF propretyof The proper application Of your cont
! fund. II is no question OF SPECIFIC appropialm
la,nudinal appropriation, or OF appropriation at ali u
of applicaton-how you are to spend the money M
appropriate much for The pay OF members Of Gomez
so much for this, and 80 much for the other eyrSvl
and so much for contingent expenses. Now yh, !
they fairly, honestly, and uprightly They are M
expenses which enable yoa to get along in yoa lesisa
capacilyin the payment OF your officers OF governs
and things of this description. Now, you come wI
resolution passed by both houses OF Congress and n,
by the President inviting The guest OF the nation 10 er
here, and you ask the amount OF the expenses incu
in his entertainment, TO be paid out OF the conlaa
fund OF the Senate. repeat, it is upjasi6abe \
say that General Lafayette was paid Was he paN /
hundred or two hundred thousand dollars ou, Of he al
tingent fund OF the Senae' Did any man dream Of MI
an abuse OF the public treasury Would there Asv|
been found one man in either House who would hayI
advocated such course or even proposed to gyeu I'd
ayette one hundred thousand dollars out Of The cond
gent fund OF the Senate. No, sir 1t was regular q
oil Congress, discussed in both branches, and passed
universal appreciation. repeat, therefore, shall I'd
for The appropriation with pleasure if il is put al
should be, in the form OF an appropriation 10 be Hll
by Congress, to be passed by he two houses aIa Z
! accustomed mode.
| Mr. RUSK Mr. President, | desire TO say ID
words. All seem to admit that we have incurred 4
bility to pay these expenses Well, how have these q
peDses been incurred! By the joint resolution Of Ca
] IL lAyi
fund OF the Senae-to give for specific object heu
appropriated for the purpose OF paying the Necessary
penses OF the Senate. Now, this is either debt uj
to tavern-keeper, or II is an obligation which we'd
under of polneness to Mr. Kossulh Ii seems b
treated in both capacities. Take it in either capx
and The proper method OF paying ii, unless you a
an abuse, Is by an appropriaion--a legal approNsi
by the Congress OF the United States, passing all d,
| partmenis that have a check upon our expeaa1al
Now, this is matter in which our courtesy, rnaasI
say. is concerned-in which our strong oblsahOa ID
also concerned Well, there are other cases 10 WIZ,
there are just strong obligations and just as md
courtesy due on The part OF this body as in ms ina
+ know there bills on your table for Just clad
against the United States, in favor ot widows and
phans. which have been reported on frequently BY ml
mitiees in both houses OF Congress, aid because b,
were discussed in one branch, or time did no, perm
they have failed, AID are still here Now, the ral
which the honorable senator from Missouri [sf AIs
IsoNl furnishes against making this JOINT resoqhA
that in the House they will discuss the resaaa
question the resolution, might apply TO evsrlAs
Then we will have to change the law WouIdhmi
just legal and proper for us 10 take up one Az
merltorious claims Tor thousand or hive thoussM q
lars in favor OF individual and pay !, out 90
contingent fund OF the Senate because there woaR I
be time in the House OF Representatives 10 pas
There would be Just as legitimate reason 10 haha'
other cases for taking the money out OF the nensg
pay them, because II was probable that they wous
pass in the House OF Representatives ia time Thss'
assumption which we do not know anything aSoaIs
my plan is 10 take the responsibility and Iua ni
House OF Representatives. believe they will be n q
ni6ed and just as we are. Therefore shall vote lou
amendment 10 constitute this joint resolution.
MIR. DAVIS Mr.. President, the honorable s'as
from New York, Mr. SEwARD,l when this uerS
under discussion, inquired OF me to which fcm Of =
luton gave the preference replied, TO The lon p
luton. That topic has excited quite dlscusson =
WISH in very few words, TO state my reasons lof g
that preference. II is now proposed by this resos1
10 take money from what is called the oonungsa' !
OF the Senate, and apply II 10 make THIS payment
Is money already ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS py las =
houses OF Congress TO be used by the Senate IN INC
meni OF lie contingent expenses; and this - one
contingent expenses Of the Senate, then il is pss
make this application OF the money. tnough ~ ~
was little doubtful whether fell among ina e'si
tIon of expenditures which we ordinarily coasNa Y .
contingent expenses of the Senate and Therefore
that answered that would prefer joint reso'uuoa.
| could not perceive that the House could have WV. ".
lis contemplation. when il agreed 10 give tbs eonul.'
fund, an expenditure OF this description though Fl,
in some instances adopt as contingent payments !
are OF as doubtful character as this. shan !
therefore, Mr. President, no insuperable dhcay y
porting the resolution under the practices and usage
the Senate, or OF supporting il as JOINT rtsous
That il will be paid, admits OF no doubt-it can ma
none. Why, SIR, IL any man OF spirit and hono, ..
whose benefit bill OF this sort bad been nsnl' m y
could have listened 10 this debate. he woua :
put his hand into his pocket and paid his iavefhA"
! himself.
Mr.. BADGER, lin his seaf) II he had the msso,
| Mr.. DAVIS. Why has II not been done
been done because committee OF this body anl - -
mitee in the other branch gave Kossuh to un0s,'ss
I that he was hidden welcome 10 these lodgings, am
no compensation and no equivalent was TO be sils.
from him Now, whatever may be my views o. ~ W.. u,
acier of this individual, or OF the course Of I'VE
he has pursued, would deem this most inappIY,,