The southern press. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1850-1852, 1852-06-05

resolutions recently offered TO the consideration
OF this House by my friend from Georgia. [Mr.
HILLYER.
"Gentlemen say that if those of US who re.
tired from the caucus, upon the proceedings Of
which my colleague has ami nadverted, had re-
manned, the resolution offered in that caucus by
my friend from Kentucky, mr. MARSHALL or
that offered by myself, would have passed
affirm, in reply, that if passed at all, it would
have passed by Southern yotes-Northern mem
bers being absent, present soih mental re,er-
uat'on, as seems TO have been the case in tho
congressional caucus at the beginning of this
session of Congress.
" NOW, there is the whole of it, These reso-
buttons were ruled out of order by the Chair
man, ana that ruling was sustained by the meet
ihs' ootn upon my resolution and that offered
oy tne gentleman from Kentucky, Mr.. MAR
SHALL IL Is also true thar The Chairman did
say, that after We had got through with the leo;
t,nlate business Of The epening, if we choose we
could resolve ourselves into debating soc;.tv
ana discuss the subject. Laugbter.l Bot il
is sun futher true, as said, that rs soon as wa
had resolved ourselves into such debating soci
ety, gentlemen would begin to get very sleepy
and there would have been no one left hut ouy'
selves. That would have been the practical .f.
feet OF the whole matter The great object in
introducing that resolution was to get Nor,bern
Wings to meet Southern Wings upon pruci.
pie OF action which we deemed to be important
10 Inc peace and harmony Of the country and
the preservation OF the Union, and an indispens.
aoie means OF maintaining the unity of tho
wing party as political organization extend
ing over the whole country, North and South
ar CABELL. ] have but word to saw in
addition to what has been said by the gentleman
from Tennessee, Mr. GENTRYl in relation to
those who seeded from the Wing caucus.
1T has been stated that If the gentlemen
who retired from the caucus had remained. tha
compromise resolutions would have passed.
That statement has been replied to, in part. by
me gentleman from Tennessee, Mr.. GENrRYl
Datln TINS connection wish to state, that, at the
first caucus which assembled, the chairman. in
reply to an intcrrogatory from me, said he would
rule out of order any proposition, whatever il
might be, saving that of fixing the time and place
tor holding the convention. During the inter-
val which transpired between the first and Sec
ond caucuses it was minated that the chairman
had changed hlspurpose in that respect When
the second one assembled, rose and asked the
chairman, or rather, intimafed to him that il nd
been stated ne would change his purpose in this
respect. In reply to- that suggestion, the chair.
man stated to me, and the caucus that bjs opin.
ions were unchanged, and that he would role
every proposition out of order except that for
fixing the lime and place for holding the national
convention"
Mr. CLNGMAN. | understood Mr. MANGum.
both IN the caucus and since--and have had
several conversations with hm-to say this. in
substance: He regarded everything which did
not relate to the time and place of holding of
the national conventions "a out OF order. both as
an amendment and as substantive proposition;
bnt he also declared that, after that matter wn,
disposed OF, If this motion made. and if a
m Jpnty OF the caucus fit to entertain it.
they might, and he hoped they would do so
but he should be obliged to hold that it was not
in order, If the point were made. He would
however, appeal to them, and, Individually.
would be gratifed, if the majority would con
sent to act upon it, and decide it, understand
this to have been his position all the while"
Extracts from the card of Hon. NJ p. GENTRY.
May %:
1t reported in the official report of Messrs.
CHANDLER and DoCKERY, as follows:
"' The Chairman stated that the question was
not now before the meeting; but that he deemed
it due to the gentlemen present, and 10 his own
honor to state explicitly that he should be called
on by his understanding of the rules of the
Senate, which had been adopted for the govern
ment Of this meeting, and the usages of the
Wing party, to rule out of order such resolu.
tons, and he took this early time of stating the
matter, that the meeting if they did not approve
of this decision, might call another gentleman
to the chair
"I'he above extracts correct as far as it goes
but does not state fully what the chairman said
on that occasion. He stated further, that, in his
opinion, the powers and duties of that Wing
caucus were limited to the single subject of fixing
the time and place for holding the National Wing
IN md hat ct,ph a1,~k,a Al.
suggested by Mr.. MARSHALL Il quote now from
Mr.. MANGuM's card) was inadmssble on the
ground OF assuming to construct in part po-
j lcal platform, which the chair deemed as in no
extent warrantable by the usages Of the " hig
party, 6W naked usurpation of po,oer properly
exercisable only by the people, or their repre-
sentatives in national convention He adhered.
to this declaration, and made his decisions ac
cordingy, through all the proceedings of the sec
ond caucus'p
Mr. MANGuM having thus distinctly stated,
at the first caucus, what would be his course of
action at the next meeting, Mr.. MARSHALL
shaped and phrased his resolu ion so as to make
it applicable only to the Wing members of Con-
gress-thus seeking to free it from the obiec-
ton of Mr.. MANGuM, that it is assumed to make
platform for the Wing party; and confident
ly entertained the belief that the chairman
would be constrained to decide it to be in order
but was disappointed. When the second eau.
Gus assembled, 30 soon as the brief journal of
the proceedings of the first meeting was read,
Mr.. STANLY sprung from his seat, and was re-
cognized by the Chair beirg entitled to the
floor. He then offered the following resolution:
"Reslved, That it be recommended to hold the
Wing national convention in the city of Balt-
more in the State of Maryland, on Wednesday,
the 10Th day of ] me next, for the purpose of
nominating candidates for President and Vice
President of the United States"
"Mr. MAR HALL then obtained the floor and
offered his resolution, not an amendment to,
but as substitute for, Mr.. STANLYs resolution
Mr.. MARSHALL S resolution proposed TO fix the
time and place for holding the national conven-
tor, and to assert an affirmative Enforcement of
the finaity of the compromise as basis of
union among the present Wing members of
COnGress., l. Was rnled out of nrdar hu tho