The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-08-21

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reading will Be dispensed with IL is the bill commonly
known as the homestead bill - =
Mr. CASS and Other SENATORS, We all understand il
Mr. HALE. Then, The Senate don't care about hav'
Mr. ADAMS / make the point Of order, and il is
proper that the Chair should decide the question oil order
make the objection 10 the amendment the ground
suggested by the Chair and leave the Chair TO determine
The PRESIDENT II is matter for the Senate 10
decide aud Tor the presiding officer II the senator
makes the question, II will be presented IN ths form
whether the amendment proposed is germane, and
therefore be offered as an amendment
Mr. CASS. | wish that The question OF order might be
submitted TO the Senate for the amendment is perfectly
Inconsistent with the bill. m
The PRESIDENT II is for the Senate 10 decide that
Mr. BADGER. Think, Mr.. President. that, according
my recollection OF the practice OF the Senate, there
preliminary question OF that kind stated think the
Manual OF the practice says is not question OF order
whether il germane or not but If the body thinks il is
no il can vote il down. You do not state any preimi
nary question That, think Is the constant practice OF
The PRESIDENT. That will be question. OF course,
for The Senate TO consider If they do not consider il
germane. they will vote il down. Ft#t ue.
Mr. BADGER. The question is upon the amendment,
If do not consider il germane we will vote il down
or even II is we may vote II down. II is no question
The PRESIDENT The practice of the Senate is,
when amendment is offered which is not considered
properly connected with the bill, to vote il down,
MIR. SMITH. Mr., President, wish merely 10 remark
to the Senate that this proceeding is exactly like what
we had yesterday when the river and harbor bill was
proposed as an amendment to this bill An honorable
member of the body moved TO introduce that bill which
has already passed the House, into this bill 10 provide
for the construction OF canal around the falls OF ST.
Mays in other words. The proposition was TO ay en-
rey aside what the House had done upon the subject Of
rivers and harbors, and commence anew with l. here,
In place of taking up the bill Of the House and acting
upon ipassng 1t in the shape in which came US,
or amending it if we thought proper-we 70 com
de nouo, by way OF amending the Saull ST. Marys
canal bill, and make new river and harbor bill, and
send il 10 the House OF Representatives And, very much
to my aslonishment proposition OF that character re-
ceiyed very considerable number OF votes here Now
we have the same thing again. We have get a bill
heresent into the Senate from the House OF Representa-
ves-called the homestead BILL and in the place taking
up that bill and acting upon its merits it is gravey pro
posed that we should Introduce It into this Sault 81.
Mays canal bill, by way OF amendment 10 IT, Ol
course, 10 lay aside the House bill and send down
homestead bill. if we pass it. TO the House of Rep
resenatyes Now with very great respect to my hon
orabe friend from New Hampshire, Mr. HALE, and the
honorable member who made that proposition yes
teTday, II is course OF proceeding TO which do
mol intend to make myself q party | do not
mean BY this TO express any opinion about the merits
OF that bill. II is very important bill, and one
that ought to receive deliberate and serious consider
will be am no, prepared TO say; but am
willing TO have all the important measures that may
have before this body, and, for augh know the general
appropriation bill among Them brought up here and thrust
The SAUL St. Marys. really think il is hardly treating
my friends from Michigan vih me respect that they age
then, if anybody wants take up the homestead bill
any other, think it will be very proper.
= Mr.. HALE | waa, SIMPLY ia CELL The attention Of the
Manual upon this question Of order. ! understand the
decision OF The Char 10 be that there such proceed
ing as pIe EI question OF order to be made
amendment is presented it is for the Senate upon
il, whether germane not. But if their attention is
called 10 H. that may induce them 10 vote against it, be-
cause IL is not geInane 10 the subject
Mr. HALE. That is the doclfne of the Manual II
an amendment proposed Is not consistent with The sub
jectmauer Of the bill that pay be reason for tbs SEN
ata's voting down; but II is question of order
Now, want to appeal 70 the senator from Connecticut
Mr. SaiTH Tor a single moment, and then am done.
Let me tell hun that unless these important measures ere
brought up by way OF amendment 10 some OF these bills
we never shall get vote on them Does the honorable
suppose iIal the Senate is going TO assign day
10 take up lhese measures Not at all II they not
proposed by way OF amendment TO other bills they
Will not be passed. at all H
And 10 The idea of treating the senators from Mich
igan with want OF respect the themselves know
that am utterly incapable OF any such Thing. And /
want 10 refer them TO tie history OF act passed
IN this body 10 show that that is not the construction
which the Senate put upon il. had The honor once OF
advocating bill IN the Senate granting pension 10 Dr.
James Norris, oil The coanty OF Carroll, New Hampshire
and on motion OF the senator IRON Wisconsin, (Mr.
WALEERl there was appended to it, by way of amend
menl, bill providing tor compensation TO civil officers IN
The Territory of Minnesota IL proposed and voted
by the Senate, TO give pension 10 De- James Norris and
hat bill carried with II The whole oil the civil list OF the
Territory of Minnesota. There no dsrespect 10 Dr.
Norris. nor TO myself. There is none now.
Now, II the senator from Connecticut Mr.. SMITH is
IN favor OF this bill let say 10 hm that meyer will
get better line 10 vote for II than nowto-dsy In the
language OF the platform the whenever and wherever is
here now Today and II the senator ever means 10 vote
Tor this bill let him do II now.
Mr.. SMITH. wish to make an inquiry wish 10
know whether the honorable senator proposes 10 lay
aside The bill which has passed the House. and pass
new bill, and have the House pass it over again.
Mr.. HALE Exactly, That question is shortly an
swered. propose TO pass II in this shape, because
shall get that bin OF the House passed separately
Aud II there is any fand OF free farms-that more
farms, free soil, and free men there is anybody here
10 for il than now The idea OF putting the matter
oil TO more convenient time will be about rational
the Roman governor was when he put of the Apostle,
and tod nun when a more convenient time came he
would attend 10 hun. The history OF the Acts OF the
Apostles does not tell that that convenient time
ever did come. and is likely it eyer did and the
senator's who vote against the homestead bill day with
the expectation that more convenient time will arrive
a more convenient season or better opporunity--are
exceedingly mistaken. II the bill is voted down to-day,
~ deadno, sir IL is not exactly dead, but is sui.
ferng cataepsy; II will be paalyzed for while, bu, 1t
will revive, and the end Will be that those who voted
against it, instead of killing the bill, will fnd that the
bill has hurt them II may not kill them, but II viii be
stronger Than anybody tina, votes against it--yastly
stronger.
am afraid to talk to-day, because there have been so
many things SAID and many things not said that (
think mig5t as well have been sad, that am fearful
that il get going, shall Ind the Chair impeed BY
that high sense OF propriey which governs him. 10 sug
10 the senator that he exactly in orders and lest
he may do that, will stop right here
The PRESIDENT stated the question, and said thai
the amendment would not be read unless some senator