The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-11-27

and after few of tho Cuban bonds had been sent into
made by it's agent and adopted the pan Of gyisx obi.
cations directly upon the royal treasury here, and ao
bearing i've per cent interest but payable In six aud
twelve months Had the first arrangement been carried
into effect, t would have operated like mortgage Of
Cuba foreigners, mostly English and as II L. her
venues are well pledged always ~ sdvanes mncs - ,hs
govepms mt to raise noney upon How long Cuba her.
self viii bear this mode Of anticipating and pledgng not
to say draining may be considered quite uncertain But
In another view person doubt the bad results Win
regard to that island from the changes and revolutions
which are taking place In the mother country ia .ns
very democratic tendency for monarchy while In the
neghborhood Of the island several independent States
Who like herself have been colonies OF Spain and whoss
ndep. ndeBce Is at this moment about being formally
rnod by Spain; and, In the second place, to Cuba Is
privileges that she has to remain in state Of colonial
bondage and bearing the burden Of sustaining in the
mother country those principles Of liberty the appca
ton of which to her s denied Under all the foregoing
circumstances then 1t will be 10 due time whether
my predictions will prove correct had forgotten in Its
place to add that il Carlos should succeed here the
question might be considered quite doubtful whether the
island would consent TO pass to what might be called
another government | have conyersed With Mr.. Cal
utrsvs twice on this subject since he has been
minister, and found him mcredulous to any danger
He believes that the fear Of the negroes is worth army
the whites from making any revolutionary attempts
One thing is certain this government send force
the island II what is there be insufficient, there will be
remedy.
Hon john FoKsrTH, Secretary OF State.
MR. STEVENSON TO MIR FORSYTH.
LEGATION THE UNITED STATES,
LONDON, June 16, 1887.
srRI have the honor OF communicating to you conn.,
with Lord Palmerston subject Of very delicate and
interesting character.
You have doubtless seen, both in the English and
French newspapers the various specuations which
have appeared on the subject Of large Spanish
loan supposed to have been made by banker In
Paris upon condition that France or England would
give some guarantee connected with the islands Of
Cuba Porto Rico, and the Philippines Having re-
ceived information from sources that l could rely
on, that propositions from the government Of Madrid
had actually been made for loan Of six millions Of
pounds sterling and that agents had been sent to Paris
and negotiating with the two the subject
Of the guarantee deemed Il my duty to take an early
sna .ocordnsy %sss n
tervew for that purpose the result Of which now COM
municate
stated to Lord Pamerston that the object Of my visit
to with him, unofcialy and confdentally
upon the subject Of this Spanish loan and that hoped
cay Ills ordship at said that there not the
flighteet objection the proposed and that he
would hear with pleasure anything might be disposed
to communicate
opened the by stating that presumed he had
the publication with which the French and Englsh
had good for behaving that propositions had
been made, both to France and Great Britain for the
o. some @ WITH Inc
ticn from my government and ignorant Of what his Ma
esty government had DONE or might be disposed to do
In relation to the matter felt 1t to be my duty to take
the earliest opportunity Of placing his ordshp In posses
sion OF what knew to be the views Of my government
the Il had hitherto felt Itself justified In taxing in
relation to the subject proceeded to give brief ex
PLANTATION Of the geographical relation Of these island: to
likely follow their separation from the dominion Of
Spain That the possession Of Cuba BY great maritime
fortress ii the mouth Of the Mississippi commanding
both the Gulf Of Mexico and Florida and. consequently,
the whole trade Of the Western States besides deeply
affecting the interests and tranquility OF the Southern
portion Of the Union That under such circumstances,
not to b. expected, Qf tho subject
remain Indifferent to tho destiny Of Cuba, or its separa-
ton from Spain remarked however, that the question
was not new one and referred to the course OF our
government heretofore on the subject reminded his
iordhp Of the declaration made by minister to the
French government in the year 1926 that the United
Cuba vass from Spain into the possession Of any other
power That France, At that time, so far from COM
planning OF this course, as breach Of neutral duty
or interference with the Of other nations,
sssnss which took placer IN Mexico in M iss
between the agent Of Great Britain and the minister Of
the United States in which he identified himself In the
communications received and made the appearance Of
we're made known at the time to the Rus
sian government, and by II to all the courts Of Europe
Under such eiIcumstanees ! felt justified In saying
United states could acquiesce n the transfer Of Cuba from
the dominion Of Spain 70 great maritime powers
fere in relation there islands presumed there could
little doubt that whilst the general rule Of international
affairs Of another freely admitted there we're yet ex
ceTtons TO the rule In relation to the laws defence and
ssf preservation, which all nations acknowledged and
that the present precisely such case that In this
view and with sincere desire to guard against possible
difficulties deemed it proper TO say what had and
hoped his lordshp would receive 1t in the spirit in which
Lord ralmerston in reply raid very little. He assured
that he and appreciated the motives which
had med 10 m q hal tha UOva
ment Of Spain doubt DESTROYS to terminate their
civil and he seemed to think that 1t could only be
done by large loan Of money; that efforts had been
made for that purpose in the supposed but
what the had been proposed whether they
IL proper to inquire His lordshp admitted that PROPOSE
ons had been made to Great Britain the subject
loan, he nature Of which he did not state but he said
that they had been declined by his Majesty
He remarked however at the time that the consent
ofPssment necessary TO the ulfment Of any pledge
state Of things there would be very little probability Of
such consent being given This remark made In
in.' let me a. Liberty 70 draw my own
10 do II the consent OF Parliament could have been OBJ
tanned II proper also that should state that having
exprceeed In the Of my impression
that the and policy ofFrance could not thought
be mistaken and that had to believe that she
had BEEN mad. to her on the
remarked that considerations Of that could not be
permitted 10 influence the conduct Of Great Britain that
In deciding oil such questions his Majesy government
could not en to the opinions and views Of any foreign
government. but must decide for itself
This remark made by his lordship in good temper
but Its tendency too obvious TO be mistaken re-.
Piled TO H. by stating that my remark to which his
an answer vO entirely Incidental and merely intended
TO chow that the opinions Of France in relation to Cuba
had undergone change since the year 2s256 but
in accord with those Of the United States To this Lord
Pslmcrpton raid nothing.
As there seemed 20 be desire the part Of his lord
chip 90 continue the conversation and having
pli.hed what bad intended forebore to press the sub
lect and the interview closed
II IL proper however, TO state that the language and
Of Lord Palmerston In the highest degree
conciliaory though evidently more marked than usual
You will that took care TO guard against miscon.
truciion commitment OF government by express
~ sstrg at the outset, that neither Instructed
nor authorized to say anything the subject but was
setting solely upon my own responsibility need not say
that shall feel gratihed the which have taken
shall meet the appreciation ~ the President.
am, cir, very respectfully your OBJ edient servant
A. STEVENSON.
joins FossrTH. Esq Secretary Of State, Washington.
JOHN m EATON TO fHs SECRETARY OF STATE
tsrrip srArrs LEeArros, MADsip, Aug 10, 1887.