The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-07-24


sent there in oricr that the rights Of peopl
may be protected. Sir ! do not profess the powe
British government but was very much impressed b.
despatch which in of the late papers, (bu
which, unfortunately, have not at hand within tn
last few days-a despatch rom the Foreign Office Of Grea
Britain to the Colonial Office advising il of this
ment, and advising that II requiring cee
rity dispatch and requiring that measures shoa
be taken by the Colonial Olcc to procure concert he
tween the British naval force and the colonial anthor
ties. The reason assigned that tEss measure
taken on the part of Great Britain preliminary TO
tain negotiations. Now what does this mean? / know
not what these egotiacns but if anything
1t mems that we are to negotiate under d,aese Aye
sir al this day. that this great people covering
tinent numbering twenty i've millions to negotiatp
with foreign feet On our coast know MOI what the
President has donc-I claim to know what the American
people expect of him know that If lac has done his
duty, the reply to this resolution inquiry viii bel
have ordered the Whole naval force Of the country into
those scas 80 protect the rights Of American fishermen
against Brih cannon hope it will be the pleasure
the Senate to consider the resolution Immediately
Mr.. HAMLIS agreed with every word uttered by the
chairman of the Committee Foreign Relate ions lie
grateful to the Senator for having introduced the
resolution. What the object of the British arm 4nent
sent to the fishing shores he could sny but that
II had some Interior object certain IL had be n
whitpered that II connected with certain negoa-
tons with respect to reciprocity trade with the co-
MES If this were so. II was nothing less th
to compel the United States to legiate under desse
this he for one, was unwilling to submit.
MIR CAss gave his full concurrence to all that had
fallen from Mr. Mason and heartily approved Of the
solution He was gratifed at hearing that Senator's
marks which were equally statesmanSc and patriotic.
He had before heard of such proceeding that
now adopted by England No matter what the object of
the force there thing certan-hc American
people would not submit to surrender their rights This
treaty 80 years old and it recognized clearly
the right Of Americans to fish within three miles of any
shore. This had been conceded for thirty years. If
there were doubt OF it. it could be settled by ncgo
tiaton. This Great Britain did not do-shc drew the
sword and cut the gordon knot at onceehessettled the
matter without notice by force of arms lie regretted
the recent publication by the Secretary of State giving
warning to the fishermen. 1t seemed to Imply doubt
that the rights exercised by them under the treaty and
since its ratification, were not well founded
MIR DAVIS said that from the newspapers it would np-
pear that the Secretary of State and the British Minister
who had gone to Boston now consulting on this
matter and he thought from this fact that there was
little apprehension but the matter would be settled ami
cably He had no difficulty in arriving at tho object Of
had touched the key to the whole matter He would not
hesitate to act bill proposing proper and suitable
system OF reciprocity lie, however, desired much
highly
Mr.. BoRLANp complained that the executive had neg
lected to send any information to communicate with
Congress. on this subject while the Secretary Of Sstc
absent from the city. carrying newspaper dis
cuson of the whole disapprovcd particularly
OF the tenor OF the warning to the fishermen to beware
the British vessels lie read from New York paper that
there no truth in the statement that Mr. Champion
had gone to Boston.
Mr. BUTLER alluded to overures by the British for ne.
gotiations about the fisheries time since in conse-
quonce of having been crowded out by Americans.
Mr. ADAMS thought discussion premature TIL utter the
information was obtained.
Mr. SEWARD would vote with pleasure for the resolu-
tion-t limited to two ohiccts-to obtain nforma-
ton as to the diplomatic correspondence the subject
and whether naval force had been sent the seas
where the difficulty had arisen He nothing objection
able in this The importance of these fisheries
ceded bJ all. and no one State interested in
them than anotherit was well known that any attempt
to drive our shcrmhn from those fisheries would involve
the whole country in blaze of war in which his
State would be deeply interested He deprecated as well
as the Senator from Massachusetts, all excitement
this subject. Whether the difficulty shall be settled BY
negotiation or the stern arbramcnt Of there
necessity fDr avoiding ezcitoment-for keeping cool IL
deprecated also the complaints against any branc
Of the government. All aware that the Secretary
OF State at this seeks his native climate escape
the severity of the weather here and he could
Senators that should the negotiations be conducted in
the mountains of New Hampshire there was nothing un
proptious in that locality for the liberties of the conn
try; in that locality was written that famous letter
which startled the governments Of the Continent of
Europe.
Mr. RusE said that if object of this naval force By
Great Britain was to bring about reciprocity in trade
no matter how favorably he might look upon such a
PROPOSITION otherwise he would give il his assent
under the duresse of British cannon He tboucbt this
domneerng spirit of England ought to be met promptly
Mr. Mason did not desire that should be substi-
suited for negotiation but that the sending of unusual
naval force into these waters should pass unnotced
and that if sent there to effect negotiations those nego-
tiations should sophe would exchange one word
write line IN the way of negotiation till that force
Withdrawn He did not know the object OF Mr. Webster
and the British Minister being in New England but if
the Secretary of State exchanged word wrote line
Of negotiation before that force withdrawn would
greatly dsappoint his countrymen
Mr. TorcEi thought the sending Of this force to the
ssbing the most extraordinary initiative towards
negotiation he ever heard Of He hoped the resolution
would pass. lie thought it likely that the Executive
quIrfd prompting He discussed the teIms Of the treaty
o. 1918 and denied the validity of the British construc
Mr. D.wsor deprecated all complaints Of tho admins
ation TIL further ipfol nation received He asked
"htD tbe fresldent had shown that he req ured
any prom ptDg 10 discharge his duty? Who
or more Likely to defend the Of the North that the
Secretary of State! lie no cause for war n all this
He would vote for the resolution
Nlessrs. Dawson and Toucry continued the debate.
hr boRIANF con'ended that the executive had infor
nation on this subject for the Secretary OF State had in
particulars
Mr. SEWARD contended that the resolution ought t,
pass II there was involved n this question the
prospect OF var there ought be- no division bewe.n
ne oiferent branches Of the government and no
planning or fault finding by either England ought to
see us united 1t impossible any one TO say what
information the President possessed
Mr. BELL hoped most sincerely that the matterwould
not lead 10 war. lie did not believe that war was m
bic AT present between the United States Great Fri
tain; believing this he reioced in what England 1ad
oone-Shc had done that which call public att n
ton to the miseably defenceoss state of the country w
wen on the Atlantic M the Pacific and good results
might follow at present we could not put twenty vessels
afoat TO compete with the force the fishing coast
Mr. BoRLAND answered the question to who so
capable Of defending the interests Of the country
as the Secretary of State by referring to that
SecIrarys in the House Of Representatives dur
ing the last war--which was mmenccd for the
rights OF these fishermen lie then denounced that
After the war the party OF which Mr. Webster was the
leader had declared that Il uDbecoming Christian
people TO rejoice over the victories Of such war
Mr. PfARcr said that Mr. Webster had been repeatcdv
assatd Tor BIS cour.e during the OF 1872 but he
never Tore heard imputed him any remarks too dis
gushing TO be fepeatedhe thought the must be
MISTAKEN lie then suggested the mpropriety of dis
cussing matters OF which had no Information lie
would IKE TO know the object of the forco gentle
men were so disposed TO send to tho fishing coas What
Instructions were to be given TO the commander!
Mr.. MASON said If the object Of the British squadron
in such unusual force to coerce negotiate there
ought 10 be no negotiation till 1t was withdrawn He
would IN such case, instruct the American commander
TO MAINTAIN the American fishermen in those seas in
joyne for thirty years
MIR PEAncr thought it probable il the British govern
ment were asked the object of that force they would
discaim any such purpose
Mr. Ph.TI said this appeared to him moro likely to
suit IN war than did the last difficulty. The English GO
yepmen, mas decided upon treaty construction. Eng
land sont wait to negotiate, for she has sent large
force 10 execute the construction Of the treaty Amer
cans are 10 DC expelled from rights which they have
loyed rr tnrty years. under what their government
was ~ an tunes and declares be the proper
sfluCtlnn cl the treaty. t0 he g.nt