The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-07-16


Of this nol aware Of the that i necessary
for this purpose but to insert Tor The tine being
the sum OF 100000
Mr. HALE [ would ask the senator from Illinois
[Mr. DouGLAsl how many men il w1l take TO occupy
these stann,h houses.
Mr., DOUGLAS, They are TO be supplied from the
regiments hereby authorized 10 be raised
Mr.. HALE They are not 10 be additional men,
MIR. DOUGLAS. No, sir.
Mr. HALE Then | understand, from the chairman
OF the Conm,ttae Territories, Mr. DoUGLAsl thai The
object of The bill is ha, these three regiments that
be raised shall perform The duty OF Occupying and attend
ms TO these stations. Now, about hlling this blank
These three regiments o ten companies each. and
hundred men 70 taen company, Will make 1900 men
Now think that any man who will look at the amount
OF our military expenses in time OF peace-noi IN time
OF war but 10 Tune OF peace, when they are stationed
along onr coas, and in our fortsw find thai Tor years
back the expense has been about 900 per man 10 sup
port the Amy al home IN time OF peace II will not
probably be less expensive TO support them upon the
route than It s to support them a home upon our coast
IL that is So Then the amount of this appropriation, in
stead Of being but 900. ought 10 be al least $1,000
900 TO begin with for these three additional regiments,
exclusive Of all the other expenses which will be incur
red 10 supplying The live stock and agricultural imple
ments, ana in exiting the Indian tides to the lands
along this route would therefore ask fit wonld be
better TO make this appropriation large as have ind
Gated
Mr.. DOUGLAS. am afraid The honorable senator
from New Hampshire, Mr., HALE,l and perhaps some
others, have rot read this bill
Mr. HALE have read II
Mr. DOUGLAS. Then would say 10 the honorable
senator that he will find, upon examination Of the
counts of our military expenditure that The large items oil
the expenditure OF the regular army consist in their trans
loiauon, and The supplies for the army the horses, &c.
and The purchase OF horses in order 10 keep up the troops
Probably nine.ienths Of lhe expenditures upon our west
foniies are 10 be accounted for by these items The
honorable senator will also find that by this bill all Of
these expenditures 10 be borne by The themselves
These TO furnish ther own Clothes and horses
and horse equipments, and to be required to raise
gather and preserve, all the provisions, breadstnfs for
age and supplies, Of whatever kind, which shall be
necessary 10 sustain themselves and their animals, with
out cos 10 the government the fullest that the
country be made TO yield aud produce the same"
We are not, therefore, to furnish the money for these
Purposes. The Committee Territories however,
not able 10 make exact calculations MS 10 the amount
which would be necessary TO be appropriated at this
this time. But we concluded to put in The OF $780,
OO0 sum large enough 10 answer the purposes OF the
administration now, aud then fIom year 10 year during
the three years they could send their estimates
how much more money would be required which h could
be given III the appropriation bills We supposed that Tor
the present VI 10000 would be enough.
Mr. HALE do not know all the particulars about
this matter But had occasion, something like len years
agoand that before Texas annexed, before the
Mexican war; and before any of these extraordinary
penses growing out of increase OF territories and
those vast expenditures 10 Th,ch The senator from -
nos Alr boUoLAsl has referred occurred-long before
tha-as have SAID, something like ten years ago had
occasion TO look into the statistics OF this matter OF m
tay expenditures have not had occasion 10 look inlo
them since; but think that any gentleman who Will
look into them will find that 10 90 far back $780,
and from that time down TO the year 1884, the military
the military expenses, the naval-were not less than
81 900 TO each man in the army. That was before
hal these extraordinary expenses 10 which have been
subjected by enlargng the area o freedom" so much
as we have done since. And think that now, notwth-
standing what the honorable senator from Illinois Mr.
DouGLAsl has said, the expenses will not be less, not.
wihsanding the prudent foresight with which these
things have been anticipated, and the provision which
has been made for pea patches and potato patches along
the route And think will be found IN the end that
will not be much cheaper 20 support this part OF army
there than al hone and that had better put in the bill
what amount we believe, what we think, and what we
have 10 suppose, will cost My own opinion is
that 80 100000 viii not be enough My opinion is that
S3,000,0O0 would not more than pay the expenses OF
these If they be kept al home upon the coast
lhlnk tha so'OooOoo wll not pc more than we should
Pot 10 this bill III u is TO pass Al all events, instead OF
putting in small sum as that proposed, think
should put in 50, 900 900, at least.
MIR. MASON. THIS bill, i seems to me, involves mat.
tcrs which should pass under the revision OF the Com
mitec on Military Affairs II proposes TO add three Iegi
mens Of 1000 men each TO ne present military force OF
The United States 10 employ them upon special duty 10
be sure, and peculiar and remarkable duties too But
still proposes TO add three regiments, numbering 5000
IN all, TO the present military force of the country
had understood that in our legislation there gene
rally strong indsposiiion TO liner easing the military force
OF The United States Tor any purpose. " | recoecl
rightly, the chairman OF the Committee on Military AZ.
fairs, within few days past, has reported bill making
small increase oil the present military force of the
country, for purpose which am free TO admit al
present advised, consider OF very imminent necessity
that OF protecting those OF citizens who reside upon
the Mexican borders from the incurslons and depeda
tions which daily Occurring there But how that bill
may fare when IL comes up for consideration, am al
presek unpTepsed to say, believing do that there is
strong ndsposition TO increasing the present military
force of the United States.
Mr.. SHIELDS. ask pardon Of the honorable senator
for Interrupng him. understood him TO make au-
sion To the Texan frontier.
Mr.. MASON, To the Mexican frontier
Mr. SHIELDS. | did not fully understand the au-
sion
Mr.. MASON. said that, as recollected, bill was
reported recently. by the chairman OF the Committee on
Military Affairs, providing for small increase OF the
present military force OF the United States protect this
Mexican frontier Bat this bill, from totally different
qnarteT-rom the Committee Teuitores-proposes to
increase the military force OF the country by large
number 10 proportion 10 what now have-by three
thousand men. And for what purposesl Why, sir, first
tor the purpose of protecting line OF telegaphc
muncson between the Atlantic cities and the Stale Of
California and the Territory Of Oregon A line of tec
graph that does not yet exist and probably will not exist
for quarter OF century to come IL to be protected
by a military force 10 be raised Immediately. Then
Tor what other purposes are these men 10 be rased2
For the purpose OF protecting the mas that are to
be transported from the Atlantic cities to the State Of
California and other possessions the Pacific Now
am not aware that the mails present carried from
the Atlantic States this coun,ry our possessions
upon The Pacific and even II the proposal should now
come from the Committee on the Post Office and Post
Roads to institute mail and have the mail carried
al this time across this country 10 The Paci6c for one
should be very decidedly opposed any such policy, be-
cause II must necessarily involve very inordnate and
dsproporonae expense m comparison that for which
they are now transported. Aud vet in anticipation Of
such policy, il is proposed TO make this large increase
10 our present military force And again the third pur
pose for which this military force is TO be raised pro-
ect the eigrants who take the inland route across the