Weekly national intelligencer., 1852-02-07
NJ. KossuTH AND MR.. CLAY.

have been somewhat inaccurate, anu, ae ,he pest,
imperfect.
The company present the occasion consisted
| of Seniors CAss, JONES, of Tennessee, Mr.. FEN
DALI, Of this city, and the Hon. PRESLEY Ewing,
of Keitucky. The last-named gentleman has been
nduce at the instance of several persons, and with
the consent of Mr.. Clay, to give more extended
and careful report of the interview, and especially
of Mr. Clay's remarks, which we publish below, and
which nay be regarded as authentic, having, be-
sides tie authority of Mr.. EWING, the sanction OF
Senator Jones' by whom the report has been ex-
amined and approved
NJ Lossuth was introduced by Mr.. Cass at about
three o'clock
On icing presented to Mr.. Clay, who rose to re-
ceive him, Sir" said he, 81 thank you for the
honor # this interview"
"Ioeg you to believe" said Mr. Clay, interrupt
ing hin, g that it is / who am honored. Will you
be plesed to be seatedg y
After the mutual interchange of civlities, 81
!, owe yu, sir" said Mr.. Clay an apology for not
having acceded before to the desire you were kind
enough to intimate more than once, But really
my health has been feeble that did not dare to hazard
the excitement of so interesting interview. Besides,
sr he added with pleasantly your wonderful and
fascinating eoquence has mesmerized large portion
of people, wherever you have gone and even some OF
our members Of Congress- waving his hand towards the
three gentlemen who present. that feared to
come under its influence lest you might shake my fath
principles in regard to the foreign policy Of this
Government which have long and constantly cherished
And in regard to this matter you will allow me- hope
speak with that sincerity and candor which becomes the
interest the subject you and for myself and which
is due both as the of freedom. trust you
will believe me- too when tell you that entertain
the hveliest sympahies in every struggle for liberty In
Hungary and in every country And in this, believe,
express the universal sentiment of my countrymen.
But sir for the sake of my country you must allow
to protest against the policy you propose to her. Waving
the grave and momentous question of the right of
nation to the executive power among nations for
the enforcement of international law of the right of
the United States to dictate Russia the character of
her relations with the nations around her. let at
once to the practical consideration of the matter
You tell us YOURSELF with great truth and proprety
that mere sympathy or the expression of sympathy
not advance your purposes. You require material aid
And indeed it is manifest that the declarations of
the sympathy of Congress- of the President of the
public, would be of little avail unless we prepared
to enforce those declarations by resort arms and
less other nations could that preparation and determi
nation upon our part Well sir, suppose that should
be the issue of the you propose u.s. could
then effect any thing for you ourselves the of
liberty To transport and arms the in
sufficient numbers and quantities be effective against
Russia and Austria would be impossible. 1t is fact
which perhaps be generally known that the
imperative with Great Britain for the close Of her
last with u.s. the immense Of the transpora
ton and maintenance of forces and the munitions of
such distant theatre and yet she had perhaps
than thirty thousand upon this continent any
time Upon land Russia is invunerable u.s. as we
to her. Upon the ocean, between Russia and this
country would result in the mutual annoyance to COM
hut in fbofl
her marine is superior that any nation Europe
except perhaps Great Britain Her ports few, her
commerce limited; while we, part would offer a
prey to her cruisers rich and extensive Thus
sir, after eectng nothing in such war, after abandon
ing ancient policy Of amy and non-ntervcntion in
the affairs of other nations and thus justying them in
abandoning the terms of orbearance and nonntererence
which they have hitherto preserved towards after the
DOWNFALL perhaps Of the friends of liberal institutions in
Europe her despots initiating and provoked by fatal
example, may turn upon in the hour of weakness
and exhaustion, and, with almost equally irresistible
force Of and of arms they may say us, You
have the example you have quit your to stand
on foreign ground you have abandoned the policy you
professed in the day Of your weakness interfere in the
affairs Of the people upon this continent in behalf Of those
principles the supremacy Of which you say necessary
to your prosperity, to your existence We in turn,
believing that your anarchical doctrines destructive
monarchical are essental
peace security and happiness of subjects viii obli-
the bed which has nourshed such noxous weeds
will crush you, the propagandiss of doctrines SO
destructive Of the peace and good order Of the world
The ndomitable spirit of people might, and would be
equal to the emergency and might remain unsubdued
even by SO tremendous combination, but the conse-
quences to us would be terrible enough You must allow
me, sir to speak thus freely feel deeply though my
opinion may be Of but little import the expression Of
q dying
sr the recent melancholy subversion ofthe Republican
of France and that enlightened nation voun
tariy placing its neck under the yoke Of desposm teach
despair Of any present liberal institutions
in Europe it gives impressive warning not TO RELY
upon others for the vndcaon Of principles but to
to ourselves and to cherish with care than ever
the security of institutions and the our
policy and principles BY the policy to which we have
adhered since the days of Washington have
beyond precedent have done for the cause of
liberty in the world than could effect have shown
TO other nations the way greatness and happiness And
If we but continue united people, and persevere
the policy which experience has clearly and trium
phantly vindicated may in another quarter Of q
tury furnish an example which the Of the world
cannot resist But if should involve ourselves in the
tangled web Of European politics. in in which we
could effect nothing and il in that struggle Hungary
should go down. and should go down with her. where
then would be the last hope Of the friends of freedom
throughout the wordf Far better is it for ourselves