Polynesian. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu], Hawaii) 1844-1864, 1852-06-26


been conveyed to them, reported the same. Or
dered to be translated.
A message was received from the upper house
transmitting act amending the act providing TOR
furnishing the statute laws of the Kingdom to for
eign consus &c. The rules were suspended and
the bill passed three several readings.
On motion, the house proceeded to the orders OF
the day.
The bill freeing govt. timber in the mountains
passed third reading.
The report of the com. on Finance, and the re-
port of Messrs. Spencer and Field, together with
the reports of the sci. com. the Minister of FL
nance's reports were taken up In committee OF the
whole.
On motion of Mr.. Rhodes it was voted that
Messrs. Spencer and Field be requested TO atte0d
this evening and answer any questions which may
be put to them on these subjects.
The documents, letters sc. pertaining to the
subject were then read when the com. rose and the
holse adjourned till P. NJ.
o'clock P. NJ.
The house met pursuant to adjournment, and at
once went into com. of the whole on the unfinished
business of the morning.
Messrs Spencer and Field not appearing. MIR.
Rhodes made a somewhat lengthy speech upon
the matters now before the house. lie thought
the emily rational course left the house was to pass
a vote of incapacity upon the Minister. lie reier-
red to the reports of the conn., on Finance ana OF
Messrs. Spencer and Field, to prove the lncaPaci-
ty of Mr.. Judd. Thought that the latter gentle
man had mistaken the intention of the house IN
confding to them the report of the sell CON- on the
Minister'S reports. They were not expected 10
correct the treasury reports but to ascertain wheth
er, as the sci. com. had asserted, they were Moor
rect and obscure. Their conclusion, however, mao
been nearly the same as that of the conn., In actuai
point of fact for both indubtably proved incorrect
ness and incompetency.
Mr. Sheldon also spoke at length on the same
subject and in the same strain He disclaimer
any personal feeling as had been imputed, nor alo
he accuse the Min. of Finance of any mlsdemean-
or but he felt it matter of duty to say that IN ms
opinion, he (the Min.) was incompetent OF ninng
the situation which he now held.
Mr. Kaumaea was not perfectly "posted up IN
regard to the matters in dispute. Wished more
time in order % think farther, and make more IN
quiries.
MIR. Ukeke las before in similar matters) labored
under the impression that he perfectly understood
the whole affair." and consequently made some very
singular and unheard-of suggestions.
Mr. Robertson thought that the sci. CON- OF the
house and Messrs. Spencer 81 Field had arrived at
the same conclusion IN one view OF the case,-,z'
that the Min. of Finance was incompetent, but
they had taken different course to come at tnat
conclusion. He thought both were right. Inc
house had passed vote of censure on the Nun. OF
uD.
reasons t:lan they would now have for passinga
similar vote upon the Min. of Finance. he
thought that such vote was now called ior.
Went on to show the conclusion that was to be ar
rived al from the reports of the com. on accounts
and of Messrs. Spencer s. Field,-it all went to
prove that there had been mismanagement or ncg-
lect in the treasury department for some years
He concluded by offering the following reso!u-
ton =
Resolved that in the opinion Of this house the
course heretofore pursued by the Min. of Finance
in paving out sums of govt money without aPpIo.
priation by either the legislature or the board OF
Finance is wholly unjustfable in Its nature cal
cuated to ruin the govt and to overthrow Ills
Majesty's independence. =
On the question being put the resolution passed
unanimously.
that in the opinion of the house MIR. g. +. Judd
was incompetent for the situation OF MIN. OF FL
nance.
MIR. Kaumaea wished to bring the Min. before
the house and examine him.
Messrs. Robertson, Sheldon and Funk could see
no necessity of having the Min. examined. The
evidence now before the house was amply sufhc,-
ent to prove the correctness OF the resolution.
Several other members advocated the resolution
but MIR Kaumaea still wished farther time in order
to consider maturely-and moved to postpone I'M
I'll tomorrow On the motion to postpone being
put, it was carried, and the house adjourned
Tuesday, June %.
Mr. Field was sworn and deposed as folows:-
At the request of the house we examined the
back reports of the Min of Finance in connection
with the report of the select committee upon them,
made ND report and handed it TO the chairman Of
the com. of Finance. The reports were not made
I'D as an accountant would have made them had
been Min. of Finance, I should have made up my
reports in a different form. No two accountants
would have adopted the same form. The result
might have been the same They were not made
ont in a business-like manner. From the mere
documents put into our hands, could not make out
statement of the affairs of the treasury but there
we're schedules referred to IN the reports which
would probably show, but these, lwhy, ne could
not tell,) were not put into our hands tney might
show the balances. Examined the books from
April to Oct. 9th. They were not kept by cor
rect system, owing to Mr. Jarrett's incompetency.
Mr.. Judd is not a Aook-keeper. Declined giving
an opinion in regard to Mr.. Judd's competency to
direct his subordinates. He was employed to as
certain what was due from Mr.. Jarrett to the Min
of Finance, and not to find out whether Mr.. Judd
was competent. Does not know what duties the
law requires of the Min of Finance; has not given
the subject his attention. simple accountant
,vouId not be a competent person for Min. OF Fin
Min. who had good accountant need not be
an accountant himself Many merchants are not
accountants themselves, but they receive large
copsignments from persons who know they are not
accountants If they have honesty and good
knowledge of business they can emp'y competent
Accountants for that part OF their business as many
do. The documents submitted to them contained
no evidence OF. incorrectness In regard to GER
tain item in the report of 1851, it was not correct
ly stated, but as they were not furnished with the
accompanying documents, could notsay that 1t wss
an error. The reports were not minute enough.
The documents referred to in them might contain.
all the details. but these were not put into our
hands TO examine. Does not think tn Minister
accountable for the details of the REGISTERS books
He,-the registrer,-was accountable 10 the law.
Thinks it would not take an accountant more than
two days to make up the financial report alone; II
IT,, ,..o,a ,ables and exhibits to accompany the