Semi-weekly North-Carolina standard. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1852-1853, 1852-10-30
STATE LEGISLATURE.
SENATE.
TUESDAY, October 26, 1852


ty of Alexander.
Resolution, directing the State Librarian t.
cause the two Houses to be carpetted, at cost mol
to exceed 81, so per yard for tho carpettng-
to furnish spittoons and settees for the use OF tn
lobby in each House.
The resignation of Samuel How ard, as justice
of the Peace was read and accepted.
The Speaker announced the order of the day 10
be bill to repeal the County of Jackson
Mr.. Caldwell said, the proposition was very I i1n
portant one-ihat of repeating bill passed at Ie ~
session of the Legislature establishing me county -
jackson. and moved to refer the bill to select GU"
mittee. 80 &c.
MT Steele remarked, that the motion of the Senator
10 REFER would, measurably, defeat the designs
temen " no were anxious to investigate the lnaIIer
TO discuss it now. He feared the time consumed by
the committee in the investigation would De 100
and while the subject fresh In the mlnos Oh tne
Senate, he hoped the motion would not PreVal: me
information,-all that could be had, was now IN the
possession of the Senate.
Mr.. Person said, he could see no good reason why
the bill should be referred to select committee ne
facts were all in possession of the Senate; ano as
several Senators would shortly be absent and as ne
wished to be present when the bill was disposed OF,
he moved that it now be taken up. Every SENATORS
he presumed, was well prepared TO dispose OF 'he
bill now, as they would be after the committee hao
reported.
Mr.. Caldwell said. if the Speaker considered his
motion to refer out of order, he would Withdraw MS
motion.
The Speaker remarked in reply that he did not con-
slider the motion out of order.
Mr. Caldwell tt en- said he would not withdraw his
motion-he thought the committee ought to take the
matter and give it a thorough investigation.
Mr.. Brogden said he had had some experience in the
making of counties, and believed he knew something
about the business. He was surprised at the Sena-
from Richmond, for Directing to the proposed rel
erence. At the last session of the General Assembly,
when the proposition was made 10 repeal the then
county of Polk, the resolution referred TO COM
mitee, and he did not hear of any opposition; DE
on that committee TO whom 1t was REFEREED and
it was looked upon as matter of great Importance
to the State.
Mr.. Thomas insisted that the reference of the bill
was due to the people of Jackson. Let the bill go
to the committee and let The committee report whe-
Their not the Indians included in the Federal
population of the Stale. He said he did not believe
that any Senator could say, in his place, what the
population of Jackson. The fact that Hayw God did
contain the requisite population was used as an
argument against Jackson, and Jackson must therefore
be repealed. Refer The matter TO committee, and see
what facts in the that committee will be able to-
embrace in their report. Delay few days, and al
voice will be heard coming from Jackson, protesting;
against repeal.
Mr.. Steele asked if the objection be such the
Senator supposed, why did he not move to refer ]
when the bill first presented 10 the Senate. lle
said the Senator from Cherokee had asked for day.
OF two, enable him to prepare himself TO make al
defence for Jackson, the time had been granted and
now he asked for time, and if granted he would!
desire still more. The Senate we'll prepared
believe that any Senator would say that Jackson had
had the requisite population, and to refer would
be 10 consume time, without effectng any good.
Mr.. Thomas asked the Senator if he had the num-
Der OF population taken from The Census.
MIR. Steele said that very strange question: ,!
and he would answer him NO but he had the popu-
lation of Haywood and Macon Jackson had not the
requisite population the gentleman from Cherokee
had himself admitted.
Mr.. Thomas asked if the gentleman would informI
him what time he had said Jackson did not contan
sufficient population
Mr.. Steele said he had not lived to the respectable
age OF forty years not to know that this mode of del
Mr.. Thomas arose to explain, when the question:
to refer to committee was put to the Senate and
negatived.
MI. Steele then remarked, in substance that the
Senator from BERTHE, Mr.. Thompson, had gone over
the ground-that he had made a statement of factsS
and figures, which must have satisfied every Senator
He (hr. S. had not intended to make any remarksE
on The subject but for the extraordinary speech of the
gentleman from Cherokee, which expressed deeperS
feeling than he thought dwet in the breast OF any
Senator this floor. Mr.. S. said, it was an openE
violation OF the Constitution to establish new Coun-
lies without the requisite federal popuation He
said The Convection of 1885 was strict in this partic
ular that Convention intepded that the representa-
lion In the House of Commons should reflect the cor
rect population of the State-it only claimed that
each County should have Representatives in
to the federal population. Mr.. Steele continued if we
60 on making Counties with a population less than
The one hundred and twentieth part of the whole pop
ulatron, we would break down that COMPROMISE
which had been so generously entered into by the
East. As citizen Of North Carolina, he knew no
East no West, he was ready to justice in all cases
and in every instance.
MIR. Steele urged the passage of the bill before the
senate lie read from the debates of the Copyenton
OF So In which he found Mr. Gaston's opinion fuI.
~ and plainly laid down. that all new Counties mus,
nave the numbers before the County could be made
He said Senators did discharge the duties which
they were sworn to perform, when thew gave their
consent TO make County that did not contain I2Oth
part OF the federal population of the State He was
determined not to give his vote for any COUNTY which
was not qualified according the requirements of the
Constitution. He investigated the amount of NOM
latlon as shown by the Census returns and stated 10
me Senate that the socalled County of Jackson was
iat SNORT OF the population requisite. He asked. is
mere any right or proPrety n the erection of new
counties that did not contain this requistion?
Mr. Steele made some remarks in replv to tbaR
speech OF MIR. Thomas delivered on Yesterday. rela-
tive to the white basis being forced upon the East
IN certain events
Mr.. Thomas explained his position, and his re-
marks of yesterday.
MT. Steele was glad the gentleman had so exDIa;n.
60 ne DID not know that he objected very seriously
10 What The gentleman had said If he had not g.
Pianeo' Mr. Steele said he should have feIt bimeoI,N
called on to state that the steed would be ,veIco
TO the shock" Mr.. S. avowed himself an onan g
MN supporter OF Inc present basis of representation
Mr.: Woodhn replied 10 the Senator from Ricbmond
.ooK GROUNDS In favor of the County of Jackson
paid ne aPPrehended of the bad results from The
~ e oasis representation, that gentleman had limited
at ne experience of Alabama, Louisiana 1'eyas
dnd kentucky, proved to 4 he