The daily union., 1852-08-05

The United Sates he that while the Shswnees al
iotner period with the United States they
fought them like men, and disputed every inch OF ground
nnl they were overwhelmed by the United States forces
But from the hour that they made peace with Tins govern
ment they have maintained their friendly relations win
US have not wared against The United States, but ior
Them Tie thinks they entitled to this claim. and their
other chiefs are oil the opinion and SO are the whole
Shawnee nation, and they will remain OF that opinion,
whether they get 1t or not
would, then suggest this to the senator from Virginia,
that be provide by an aaendment-make no appropr,a
tion--for full investigation OF this claim aud II IN the
opinion OF the commissioners appointed in this case-ior
would not leave ii now with the Department OF the In
Ject, and very loose opinion too as conVder H. and
one that cannot be maintained-l would appoint CON-
missioners TO investigate this matter, or commissioner
respectable and Intelligent geneman-who need not
20 beyond the Indian Department. to examine the trea
ties and the records and report al the next session OF
Congress, whch will be but short time and what he
to have done That is the that | would Jecom-
mend think il ought to be done. think there 10 plan-
sbilily IN their claim. and do not wish it now to be
placed in such attitude that il would be inexpedient for
MIR SEBASTIAN. l wish at the proper time to sub
NIT my views upon this claim. perhaps have eonvic-
tons more decided than those OF the chairman OF the
Committee on Indian Affairs, [Mr. ATcHisos In our
earnest endeavors TO come 10 a common understanding
about this matter. the Committee Indian Affairs have
not met with very much success and is very probable
that all OF its members will desire 10 present their views
snccincy and separately TO the Senate upon this subject
But do not rise for that purpose but say that
believe that the honorable senator from Michigan, Mr.
CAss now absent, desires TO address the Senate upon
this matter And as there are but few moments be-
tween this time and the general hour OF adjournment,
will move that this bill be posponed--
A SENATOR Move an adjournment.
| Mr.. SEBASTIAN. Well, | move that we now ad
| MIR. GWIN hope that the senator from Arkansas
will moi adjournment, but will move to postpone
the bill There is another matter which had up day
or Two since, which wish to have taken up as think
we dispose of il in few moments
| Mr.. SEBASTIAN. Well, sir, will withdraw my mo-
ton to ADJOURN and move that the further consideration
OF this bill be postponed till to-morro
The question being then taken, the motion to post
pone was agreed to.
EXPLORATION OF BEHRING'S STRAITS AND THE CHINA
Mr. GWlN. now move that the Senate take up the
bill ~ relation TO The survey and exploration OF he China
seas &C., as the senator from Virginia M +. HUNTERl
has substitute which think will be adopted without
any discussion.
| The question being then taken, the bill taken up.
and the Senate proceeded IN committee OF the whole
consider Senate bill No 43-being "a bill to author
ize exploration and reconnaissance of the of
navigation used by whaling vessels in the regions Of
Behring'S straits and also OF such parts OF the China
seas, Straits OF Gaspa and Java sea- as lie directly in
The route OF vessels proceeding to and from China"
The question was upon adopting the substitute offered
! by Mr. SEWARD some days since.
/ Mr. BU Tier. regard this matter OF
siderable importance; and although have great conf
dence IN the senator from Virginia. Mr.: HUNTER. who
| understand has prepared substitute, desire TO have
more time TO examine this matter therefore that
the Senate do now adlourn.
The question being then taken upon the motion 10 ad-
journ, upon division il not agreed to- as follows
ayes s. noes not counted
| Mr. HUNTER | move 10 amend the substitute Of
ered By the senator from New York, Mr. SEWARD by
striking out all after the word "that" in the first line,
and inserting the following:
"The President of tbs United States be- and is hereby
authorized and requested exploration and
10 be made under the direction OF the Secre
,ay of the Navy the vicinity Of Behrng'
srats that iequented by the whaling OF
United States aud also OF such parts OF the China
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and from China and for that purpose, the President
and requested to provide either by building or
buying steamer of suitable dimensions and two
sms sailing vessels of 200 800 burden, properly
pointed Differed. and navy; and The sum
OF SIPS 900 hereby appropriated, OF sny
treasury not Otherwise to carry into effect the
chasing or building, equippng-with The exception OF
armamsnt-and fitting out these vessels shall exceed
n0th9, That the expedition .hn be con dn.d 10 recon
noissance for nautical and commercial purposes"
Mr.. BoRLAND. Mr.. President. do not rise 10 make
speech, for fear that do not fully understand The
object Of the proposed expedition. come from part
OF the country where both people and represe are
necessarily less informed upon these subjects than gen
temen who reside upon the Atlantic coast. and in those
paris OF the United States where naval ments and
maritime expeditions are habltually fitted but have
been here several years and have head such things dis
eossed and listened the other day as ai'enlively as
when be presented bis at considerable length upon
this subject All have been able 10 learn, however,
during that time, and what listened to last week
OF the very learned and eloquent speech OF the honorable
senator from New York, has failed 10 inform salts
ac,ofiy the real character aud objects OF this er
pedon We were told that is to srpiore me Why,
SIR ships not exploring the every day. Are
not the ships of commercial marine--are not our
sbips-of.war-are not whaling ships themselves, to
which this proposition particularly reIaes-con.
sany and most effectively exploring the very seas in
question But, SIR TO fl out expedition for this
elusive and special business, is novel proposition to
me, and do not understand precisely what IL is, how 1t
IS 10 be accomplished, nhai for wish senator
TO explain all this TO When | have been duly en-
lghtened BY those who know all about 1T shall be pre-
pared to vote Possibly may be constrained TO vote for
the proposition; but il do IT will be after have been
indoctnnaed and taught not only hor. but the why
and wherefore Is the purpose OF the expedition search
out and explore bay. and harbors bordering upon
unknown seas, or 10 find and determine the hauns OF
the whale II heard The senator from New York Mr.
SrwARpl Alright the other day. he said engage
IN some great hunting erpediiIon-"a mighty chase.
think he called it-not chase OF the deer. the wolf
or the fox, or the coon but it 10 be the chase OF
the whale -
II this be So bcn suppose the proposition, in plain
terms, y TO authorize the President oil the United States
to bud, or buy or t out, ships engage IN uhals fishing
Il that the proposition II ii be, then say IN many
words, and we shall all understand II at once. Ia this
supPosition may be altogether wide OF The mark but
as he senator from New York s the only one who has
spoken 10 the BILL and undertaken TO explain IT, and as
he certainly characerizes il as chase ol the whale"
know not how else to understand IT. II this be the
lproPosuon atm opposed 10 IT, II not, what - II Let
some one tell me am perfectly willing 10 afford our
fishermen, whether OF little fish or big hsh. OF seals or
whales OF Goldfish mackerel, whether they go alter
whaebone or whale oil the facilities and protection
give 10 persons engaged in any other branch OF bus
I3ess But am unwilling that this government iiself
shall Turn fisherman, and fl out vessels to chase the
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