The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-08-22

| MIR MALLORY. In consequence OF the remarks of
the senator from Indiana Mr. BRIGHT.] deem il neces-
planahon oi the vote shall give. have not examined
me ryef aud hafbor bill consequently the vote shall
sye now will De indication OF the feeling shall have
when II comes beioneu However this may be regarded
therefore, as test vote by other senator's cannot re-
safd as such. There certainly measures of this
character which shall be happy TO vote for upon any
Mr. BRIGHT | did not mean 10 be understood as
declaring IN favor Of this bill just ii is without any
alteration amendment know II needs amendment.
and think shall for them. desire to improve it
as lar as posslbe and il il be far improved as to
onng Il within the and-marks that guide upon the
subject, shall vote Tor IT,
i Mr. BADGER Mr.. President ---
4 MIR GWlN Will the senator allow me 10 say sin
gle word |! Il. J.#.a5
Mr.. BADGER | have but single word to say NY
SELF There is disposition. Mr. President, force this
bl upon the Senate any more than any other bill II has
consideration of the Senate is whether shall put the
bill aside
Mr. HUNTER. viii the senator allow me TO correct
him IN matter OF fact? understand the civil aud dplo-
The PREsIDENf Tho Chair viii state that there
e 10e and S ba,bo, bo Or & es that hays ~ priority Of
one on The calendar; bat the civil and diplomatic appro-
paton bill having just been reported and gone upon the
calendar, u will go behind the river and hagbor bill
Mr.. BADGER, That is what meant to say--that the
river and habor bill is the calendar and that it has
priority over the appropriation bills Now, i is pro-
i up for consideration. Gentlemen say they
for II without examination and discussion. There is
ample time, without consuming week for any full and
fair discussion on that bill | admit ii gentlemen who
are or who suppose themselves 10 be- in the minority
upon that bll-ior do not know what the majority Of
the Senate will beresoive occupy the time by read
ing old reports and old speeches which nobody listens
mat naye in fact very faint, il any connexion, with the
SUBJECT before the Senae that not read for the pu
pose OF enlghenng the Senate-and thereby continuing
the discussion against time, in order TO compel tile sup
posed majority of the Senate 10 yield TO this prox dis
cusson ana give up the measure. then month"; then six
months Will be consumed just well day. AS
any discussion that necessary to understand the merits
OF the measure unless senators resolved that the Sem
ale shall not vote upon it, see nothing that is 10 pre-
vent it,
| Mr.. MASON. Nothing that is said here now. take
for ganed is 10 affect the vote of any senator n taking
up this civil and diplomatic bill, that for the improve
ment oil rivers and harbors But, sir whatever is said
here now goes out to the country and what am TO say
want to so 10 the coun,ryl mean TO thai part OF the
country from which come. trust it will be OF service
there at future day. when the practical working OF
this government is brought before them in this shape
amongst others.
Now, want TO say this Here is civil and diplomatic
bill which is provide for the general expenditures of
this government for the current year is bill upon
which necessarily new points OF policy instituted by
the government II is bill to carry the government on,
and upon which, according TO the usage of all popular
governments, the measures and the policy of the admin
straon necessarily involved and discussed bill,
The debate upon which enghtens and informs the pub
c mind and We have but eleven days Of the session
naming in which to upon that BILL together with the
army and navy bill And now senators say that bill
which Is purely local in lis character-a bill which is
improve rivers and harbos in the different States and
Territories that purely LOCALS to take precedence
OF this great bhe great bill OF the session and that
II is TO do IT, as understand the genemeu because if
they do not pass the bill now, time will be necessarily
consumed upon these appropriation bls which will pre-
cude the passage OF II at all. Then, as understand
1t, the proposition IS this We will orego, and will
give up every opportunity debate before the country
the points involved in the expenditure Of the public
money 10 carry on the administration OF the government
we will forego that in order that we may insure
Ntfnra Of Ykn al frnnra
Now, as said, Mr. President, gentlemen have made
up their minds upon iAs thing. There those-and,
apprehend, majority OF the Senate-who are prepared
to vote for bill for the Improvement of rivers and har
bors do not question their opinions Judgment,
their right TO do so differ from them e0o both az
to the consttaonaity and the policy OF such measures
but they have right 10 do it. Yet submit To them
whether at this stage OF the sessonwhen, treat this
measure In relation TO rivers and barbors as you viii,
there must necessarily be debate, and long debate, upon
II, as well upon The measure projected as upon The gem
efa policy OF the measurehey will place The country
10 such a condition TO drive TO the necessity OF
passing these appropriation bills as was done al the last
session, entirely without consideration, and without
reading say TO gentlemen 10 all caador and ranlness,
that this river aud harbor bill does take the precedence
that they propose TO give IL, II will place IN that con-
don as to the appropriation bills, called Now, sir,
mean no facious opposition at all 10 this river and
harbor bill am against IL, as will be shown at the
proper time but submit to the Senate whether they
will place in the condition OF voting these appropriation
bills for the general administration of the government.
and for the support OF the army and navy, without de-
bate, and without deliberahon and without reading
whether they intend 10 place in that condition. as APP
pehend we will be, by giving precedence to this river
\ and hafbor bill. H..I1EH r..
| MIR. BORLAND. Mr.. President, the senator from
Virginia Mr.. Mason 10 think that the friends OF
and harbor bill desire place those who give
precedence TO the appropriation bills at disadvantage.
tie speaks OF their being forced 10 consider them at the
very close OF the session. when there s time for de-
Liberation. Why SIR apprehend that that any
other does not wish TO be understood as saying that the
merits of this bill going be decided by the discus
sions OF the Senate Does not senator take the
bill and read it for himself, and determine whether he
will vote for certain appropriations what amendments
or notifications he wishes TO make in ii DO senator's
sit here 10 make up their minds by discussions before the
Senate | apprehend not do not think have ever
and n result, OF discussion before this body.
Mr. BUTLER. Why do you discuss il. then
Mr.. BORLAND. Senators discuss Questions for the
purpose OF placing their views before their constu
ents.
| Mir BUTLER. | do not
Mr. BORLAND. But, Mr.. President, the senator from
Virginia Mr.. MAsosl fails TO notice this difference be-
tween the two bills The he knows will pass, and
must pass OF necessity; and he knows, at the time,
that il he gives precedence to this civil and dpo-
matte appropriation BILL il certainly nsures the defeat OF
the river and harbor BILL did once before We have
already received notification from some senators, who
opposed 10 the river and harbor bill that they intend
to resort 10 every parliamentary in their power TO
defeat alludng 10 the very steps taken the last
sion, when II defeated by parliamentary means, not
by argument vote for IL permitted TO come
10 vote. Now IL ~ useless to undertake 10 disguise
the question before us, or throw any mystery or veil
over this whole proceeding. The question before