The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-07-31

hVestE auon, ana MI Medili, upon every charge and
every specification. proved that they entirely false
and himself to be entirely nnocesi by the testimony OF
The very best men IN the State OF w Wisconsin
wen. Mr., PRESIDENT suppose there was mistake
ana am Wiling to admit that perhaps the Indians al The
lime were not fully OF the OF their claim
ihs mol The time TO make appropriation and IS on
that point that wish TO address myself 10 the Senate
SUPPOSE they were entitled in equity and IN conscience
10 1890 U00l believe that is the amount OF the proposed
appropriation addition TO what they had already re-
ceIved Tor their lands, this rs not The me 10 make that
appropriation, in my opinion because, sir, they are IN
unsettled state They were TO remove within two
years after the ratification Of this treaty 10 the territory
eel apart for them BY this treaty upon The Crow Wing
Iiyer. west OF The Mississippi, They have examined
that coantry, explored through delegation, and OF
The opinion that u Is not country suited 10 them, and
they unwilling to remove TO it. for the thai
s barren country, entirely devoid Of game and for
another more potent reason with them they cay they
will be hemmed in on the one side by The Chippewas.
and on the other side by the Wnnebagoestheir deadly
enemies and they being bu! small band compared with
either the w nnebagoes or the Chlppewas they
willing TO go there That is their condition There is
no oihsr land set apart or appropriated for them and they
mens are pressing upon them; and place them where
soever you may within the limits of that Stale, doubt
very much whether the legislature of Wisconsin Will
ever give their that the Menomonees shall re-
main within the limits of the State for II is against their
policy II preparing future trouble, If the legislature OF
Wisconsin should consents and although they may con-
sent that they should remain Tor few years. this gov
eminent must provide them with permanent home.
Them sir, can see no necessity for this appropriation
at this me even admitting their claim TO be just be-
cause sir, they cannot IT, They have use for il
and think the government would be acting very fool
lshly 10 make the appropriation and place II IN the hands
of these Indians or their agents. they may be,
because sir, home must be provided for them A ter
ritoy that would be large enough to suit them would
cost not TO- IS 20 cents but may cost so cents or 81
per do not, therefore, think il right necessary
that these Indians should have this appropriation of
money at this time, particularly the chairman OF the
Committee on Finance Mr. HuNrERl intends 10 propose
appropriation Of $4,000 or $4,000 for Their present
subsistence and accommodation.
Then, Mr.. President, without making the question
whether there fraud perpetrated not or whether
whether we have paid them two small price for this
land, it nexpedient that the appropriation
should be made al tins time. When the proper time
rives, am willing 10 deal literally with hem-not only
justly but lberay and if 100000 shall not be sut-
Gent 10 establish them in their homes and give them
start agricultural people. am willing TO take half
purpose. think we would better concur in the amend.
ment proposed by the committee and when the time
rves when this money will be necessary and beneficial
to these Indians. consider it, and if there be
equity in their claim, then make the appropria-
ton.
Mr.. SEBASTIAN. Mr. President. before the ques-
ton is taken upon the motion of the senator from Viz
gnia Mr. HUNTER] to strike out, will ask leave TO Of
ter, as substitute, the amendment which will send
TO the Chair In other words, propose 10 strike out that
portion OF The bill, and insert what send TO the Chair
The amendment was then read as follows
That an additional compensation. for the sale of their
lands by the treaty OF the lsh OF October Isl5 for the
cess Of land actually eedsa over the laany owned by
Genera-at the same rate that paid for said territory
h aomd n q gus a; ha sea n SAID opinion
States Provided, That The shall be subject all
oes,s Deductions ior expenses Of procuring new home
after fnd propidd fAer. That the balance shall be
paid Until after such removal and then ia such
the President may direct"
The PRESIDING OFFICER, (Ms NoRRIs) The
Char would inquire OF the senator what he proposes
strife out
i A4 OF O. ~
baoralon ior the Menomonees, from The 10th to the
k47th line inclusive
The PRESIDING OFFICER motion has already
been made 10 s'nke out that portions the motion is not
therefore, now IN order.
MIR. SEBASTIAN perceive that such motion is
not in order. and therefore Withdraw my amendment
Tor the present. and sh all contne my remarks TO the
pie motion TO strike out; and, II tina, motion succeeds,
snail then move to insert what has been read.
MIR. BELL The senator's proposition can come up
by way OF amendment 10 te clause. He has right 10
move TO insert before the motion made TO strike out
The PRESIDING OFFICER The Chair understands
that th6enaor from Arkansas moves TO strike out The
matter that the senator from Virginia Mr. HUsTERl
has moved to sirike out.
Mr. WELLER. One is a motion to strike on, and
insert, and the other mouon to strike out alone.
Mr. BELL. understand that the senator's proposition
is TO amend and suggest 10 him 10 leave word of the
clause in the bill
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The senator's motion
is 10 strike GU, the matter which motion is
pending TO strike out by the senator from Virginia.
Mr.. WELLER A molten TO strike out and insert
takes precedence OF motion TO strike out simply
Mr.. SEBASTIAN. l can obvlae the difficulty by
moving TO attach The amendment have offered TO the
preceding section II makes good sense there.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Then the senator can
not make his motion this stage bu, must wait till the
pending motion is disposed OF.
Mr.. SEBASTIAN. Then | will address yself TO the
OF the senaor from Virginia II matters very
little, in coming at the merits of the motion OF the senator
from Virginia, what may be the precise form IN which
offer the amendment, but before the final action is had
upon this portion OF the bill, will put my proposition in
form in which a direct be taken upon IT, The
which have sent 10 the Chair, instead OF
providing for absolute appropriation formed upon what
think artificial basis, and which think cannot be
justified by any correct just principle, does provide
extra allowance to the Menomonees upon what |
sIder true and just principle in this II is to allow
them compensation at the same rate which they
paid Tor the country which they thought they coded
for the couatry which they actually cededprovdsd that
mere difference in quantity which
owned by them upon survey at the General Land Office,
shall be found 10 be correct That excess amounts to
about two millions OF acres-an excess which the In
iians induced TO believe 10 be included IN the
amount made out al the Land Office, but which Is dis
roporonale that it strike every senator amount
ng on its face TO garing pal pabe mistake. throw
ou, OF consideration what regard as merely an untruth
reference fraudulent conceaimeni OF facts alleged TO
have been made at the date OF the treaty That forms
no part OF the consideration upon which have
The conviction and urge that this is just and equitable
claim.
Bnt, sir, the amendment which propose falls under
the head OF what lawyers term mslakes"-a large
class over which jurisdiction j. exercised throw out
which regard neither substantasd by testimony
viii he known urobity ufey n