The daily union., 1852-09-08
viii never hold the senator IOm Ohio sonsible fol any

will never hold the senator from Ohio responsible for any
MI CHASE Mr. President. under the suggestion
made by the senator from Virginia and the suggestion BY
the Chair will refrain from saying what was about 10
IN regard 10 The character o this claim and the mode
in which IL is now before The Senate The Senate was
equally divided whether II was private claim or not,
But without raising any question now on that point
wish SIMPLY to ask question OF the senator from Ar
kansas, who chairman OF the Printing Committee.
IN reference TO what fell from the senator from North
Carolina Both the senator from North Carolina and the
senator from Maine concurred in stating that this was
an adudged matter IN regard 10 the payment for printing
the decisions oil the Supreme Court do not know how
II has been adludged II il referred 10 anybody do
not know TO whom II was referred As the senator from
Arkansas has considered this whole subject-as II was
under his charge for long period OF hme-i ask him to
inform the Senate TO whom il referred and by whom
il by anybody, the claim has been adudged
!, Mr. BORLAND will answer The senator from Ohio:
II was certainly adudlcated by proper auhorityby au
thory Of the Secretary of the Senate, the Clerk OF the
House OF Representative and the clerk OF the Committee
on Prinng-sho constitute board TO audit aud settle
the printers accounts during the Of Congress
This account presented 10 that board AMI by them
with full and legal authority considered, though think
they erred in their judgment as 10 the amount
The question being aken by yeas and nays on the hfst
branch OF The amendment OF Mr. PEARcE 10 The amend
ment, resulted-yeas IS. nays 3o-as follow
YEAs-Messrs. Bodaed. Brodhesd, Chase. Clarke,
spraaoce, Sumner, Underwood, Upham, Wade. and
NAfs-Messr,. Bayard, Bradbury, Bright, Brooke,
Cemrns Desaussure. Dodge Of Iowa, Douglas. Downs,
Felch, Gwn. Aamin, Houston. Hunter James, Jones Of
on Nots Ru.E. Seward Shields. sous, stOcston, Toa
cey, aud Weller--3O.
So il disagreed to-
the amendment to the amendment, which was to in
sert:
Aod for printing the obituary notices Of the deeeass Of
President Taylor said shall be paid the actual
cost, with profit OF twenty per cent"
Mr. PEARCE asked foi the yeas and nays upon that
also; which were ordered.
Mr. SEWARD. | desire 10 know if some senator
can inform me- whether the same terms will be charged
for printing the obituary notices of Mr.. Clay'
Mr. BORLAND. The terms are not the same, and that
work was done by different contractor.
The question being then taken by yeas and nays, re-
sulted-yeas 49, nays l5-as follows:
YEAs-Messrs Bayard. Bell, Borland, Bradbury. Brod
head Brooke, Chase, Clarke, Cooper, Davis, Dawson,
Foot, Hamlin, Houston. Hunter, King M.ngum, Mason,
Mewe.her Miller, Morton, Psarce, Pra, seward, smith,
Soule, spusTaee Sumner, Underwood, upham' Wade
NAYS-Messrs Bright, Clemens, Desaussure, Dodge Of
Iowa, Douglas, Downs, Fe!ch. Gwin, James, Jones OF
Iowa, Mallory, Rnsk, Shields, Stockton and Toaceyl5
So it was agreed TO-
The question then recurred on the amendment of Mr.
DOUGLAS amended
Mr.. UNDERWOOD asked for the yeas and nays
which ordered and the question being then TAX en-
by yeas and nays resultedyeas 80, nays 4as follow
YEAs-Messrs Bayard, Bell. Bodand, Bradbury Btight
Brooke. Clemens Cooper Dawson, Desanssue, Dodge of
James. jones' Of iowa King, Mallory, Msngam, Mason,
Meriwether Morton, Rusk Shields Soule, Stock
NAYs--Messrs Biodhsad. Chase Clarke. Davis, Foot,
Miller Norris, Pearce, Smith, Spruanee, Sumner, Under
wood, Upham, and Wade-A
So the amendment was agreed to.
Mr.. COOPER. There is provision in the bill for the
redemption OF seventeen loan -oce certificates, giving
their numbers, and appropralng 4l65 AZ for that oh
eighteen" and to insert No 266 as the number OF the
certificate proposed to be canceled and also to increase
the appropriation $4,000
This is to provide lor certificate which is ouls,and-
he Orlg cprh has hapn lost | hol in nv
hand statement from the Register OF the Treasury,
showing that the amount stands TO the credit OF the par
ties the books OF the Treasury Department and l
have also in my hand letter from the Acting Secretary
OF the Treasury. recommending an Appropriation suti
cieni 10 pay it will state that the original claim
for cannon furnished during the revolutionary
claim that settled the treasury, under the act of
1890, think but the certificate which issued to the
pares has been lost Proo has been made OF The loss,
and The statement from the Treasury Department admits
that the stands 10 the credit OF the parss and
has never been paid; and have here recommendation
Tor It's payment No difficulty accrue, because there
is proviso in the section II from the House
That satisfactory evidence be produced the Secreta
y OF the Treasury that the persons who have presented
the said certificates for payment are the bona de holders
The honorable senator from Virginia knows that what
have said in reference the facts OF The true
The recommendation is that the appropriation be in
creased to S25 000 bot that not necessary because
the certificate amounts TO a little SIS 900. and it
little shorter 10 insert the simple word twenty be-
fore oar SO as TO make the appropriation S2il65 a.
MI. NUM- En- otHeFe ulsHt fdtsr
point OF order as 10 the amendment; but think can
attain my objec, in shorter way. The papers in this
handed to me by the senator from Pennsyva-
MIA, and | examined then, and sent them 10 the fret
comptroller Tor the purpose o asceranng whether such
things had ever been granted. THIS pay loan
office certificate which is -elf presented aud for which
claims the clause in question framed but II is to
present claim for lost certificate. The comptroller
has me that such things have been rarely DONE
and then upon the srcisst invesgs alton, and only by
special act II to me, therefore, eRineny proper
sn0lld
and OF special act think that the honorable senator
probably, alter he has discharged his duty his constt
uen by presenting IT, will not press Il; but il
me at any rate, obviously unfit far this bill.
Mr.. COOPER | cannot consent 10 withdraw the
amendment by any means. hold in my hand the cer-
hcaie OF the Register OF the Treasury did hope that
the senator would have stated that what have said
the fact, because he certainly knew it, Here is the GER
ticate from the Treasury Department:
TeKA.u uRY DEPARTMENT,
Registers Office, August ~, 1852,
final settlement certificates, issued by Benjamin SeIle,
commissioner for setng debts due 10y the United States
the State Of Pennsylvania and that appears
records Of this office that the certificate out-tanding
and unpaid. TOWNSEND HAINE5,
Register
Here is letter from the Treasury Department:
Treasury DEPARTMENT, August a. 1882.
SrR beg leave call the attention Of the Finance
COMMITTEES the section Of the general appropriation BILL
~ line l9 providing for the redemption OF Old
Standing osn-oioe cerii6ostes, The appropriation
stands only provides for the specific claims then be
lore the department. leaving margin for such others
be presented during the year There be en-
this day presented another claim, the specie value OF
which, the Tins OF it's issuing, 81 l-0 So which
must be provided Tor or remain unpaid And IN order