The daily union., 1852-05-11

any time after tue Of December 1854 by giving
months notice thereof TO the President OF said company
Mr. HALE wish to ask the senator from North
Carolina Mr. BADeERl il he proposes this amendment
with view 10 abandoning the usage of these vessels for
war steamers IN case OF contingency; that isS does he
look 10 the abandonment OF the idea OF these vessels be-
ing converted into war steamers IN case they should
Mr. BADGER will say, in explanation, that pro-
pose nothing about it, | propose to the right
and OF COURSE Is rght-to put an end TO this contract
Mr. PRATT wish 10 ask my friend from Texas.
Mr.. RUsK,l or my friend from North Carolina, IMr.
BADGEa, two questions, If they inform mes What is
the cost OF The English vessels and what Is the relative
cost OF the American vessesl what the relative cost
OF the Collins and cunard vssselsi alet7
Mr. BADGER understand that the cost of the Eng
sh vessels is about thirds that is the cost of sim
gle vessel .i4i a0 fa ioita
Mr. PRATT My object in making the inquiry was 70
sugges to the senator from Tennessee MIR JoKEsl whether
this does not furnish 10 the argument which he
makes. His argument is, that the English government
are paying 5000 Thousand tons and you make the
same payment 10 the American VESSELS 1t would make
$4,000 instead OF 1000 per trip; and If any gentleman
will show him for increasing the payment ofthe
American vessels, looking al the tonnage that his mind
would be relieved from all alldcuy, and be would 20 with
those who support this Now. sir, in the first
place. if vessel cost million of dollars while another
vessel only cost S500oo the insurance upon the vessel
costing would OF course be double that of the
other The cost OF repasihe damage and deterioration
the value OF the vessel ilsewoud be in proportion to
its original cost The interest of the money also the inter-
est OF VI 100000. which vessel coswould be double
that on $5o00u0 which the other vessel cost The
son which he assigned for the difficulty which prevails
with him 10 certainly answered if in his mind he will
run these considerations bb al59l
Mr.. JONES, of Tennessee / am obliged to the SEN
ator from Maryland for his kind effort to enghten
this subjects but sorry hatl do not perceive the force
of his explanation If he estimates that the difference of
the cost OF these vessels determine the question OF
pay then will say that if allow that the difference
in the increase OF pcess owing lothe cost OF the vessel
and the finish, he may be right But, sir. the burden of
ships 200 tons, while that Of the Cunad ships is
about 1000 We adding third it, and also
adding additional 000 expressly the ground OF
greater and increased expenditure running But il
seems 10 me, II the gentemans argument amounts 10 any
thing is on the other sde because the Cunarders in the
aggregate cost much more than in the aggregate
and # the argument proves anything II proves directly
the reverse Of that which the gentleman assumes q-a
! Mr. RUSK Mr. President, The honorable senator from
Tennessee seems to leave out of view the fact that the
remuneration given the Collins line, Or in other WORDS
the receipts of the Collins line and those OF the Cunafd
line rendered greatly dspropoonae by the tact that
Cunard makes trips than Collins. Now cir. 60 far
letters concerned and the transmission OF valuable
merchandise, promptiude and despatch important
The will see, that there rival lnes and
OF them passes oitener between certain points, hat
would get the largest amount OF freghts; and besdes
will get the largest amount ot uavel and passengers upon
its steamships That important element in this dis
proporonate expensea want Of remuneration to this
line. aa.sF ia1 gisUt.. aaRE elaa dEl
There s another thing which seems to be forgotten that
s that the Cunard line has about years the start of
the Collins line They had machine shops. because they
had entered more largely Into the bading of steamships
in England than in the United States Al the time that
this enterprise undertaken by Collins and his assoc
aes, there machine shops here, as understand
II, sufficient to make the machinery for the vessels OF this
line, and large portion OF had TO be purchased Eng
land and imported TO this country In addition TO that sir
there then experienced engineers whom they
could put in charge of these vessels; they had to hire
foreign engineers at very large prieemuch more than
they now pay. el s8 ER q s4Z 44 tH t&
This them while accounts for The difference between
these two lines, shows important reason why we
should sustain this line Four years ago you could
have built warsieamer OF the size OF these Collins
ers at all; you would have had to be dependent upon
Great Britain for machinery -Four years ago you had no
engineer who could be trusted with these ships the
ocean, Now, sir you have plenty OF them, and perhaps
even better than any they have In England.
And sir there is another thing which manfess itself
in this Senate and all over the country but which does
not manifest itself IN England and that sir, OF
disregard OF American enterprise and II the will
look at the fact he will find that Americans palronize
the Cunard line, and therefore they enabled make
profits which the Collins line cannot; he will find that
The travel and the freight OF American houses in
trusted TO this line Nay, more, SIR; if he will investi
gate this matter to the end be will find that Americans
are writing for the newspapers for the purpose Of break
ing down this rival line 10 British influence and British
interests.
There is also another thng-T will not pretend 10 give
all the facts which tend TO show this difference and ac
count for IL In England understand, coal 10 SO per
on but in this country believe il is 80 per ton ANd
there Is another important item which entered into the
expenses in the first instance. When these ships first
went to England they had no docks there sufficiently
large Tor them TO enier and these men, understand
H. had, al large outlay OF money! 10 build docks there
for the entrance Of their ships There many con-
sideraons Of this descriptions and the question is now,
TO my mnd w i'll you abandon the enterprise and force
your citizens, whether they will not. 10 pay hun
dred times, perhaps a thousand times, more in the
shape OF money TO this Cunad line for the transmission
OF freight and psstage TO be taken from the
pock OF American czens and transferred 10 the cof
ers OF the British government TO strengthen a steam
marine which already vastly superior TO your own for
war purpoesl This, sir, Il seems me, Is the ques-
ton. ses..e y tt Itf @la1a..I 5000 st ftNHw
Mr., JAMES | merely rise to correct my honorable
friend from Tennessee Mr. JoNEsl in matter OF fact.
The Csnard line receive from the British govern
ment 50 IS per for the tonnage OF these ships that
cross aud recross the Atlantic. The Collins ine--alow
ing the $4,000 per trip-will receive only - 50, or
something like 30 per cent less than what is being
paid 10 the Cunard line. Hla Hs a4-s
One other fact. and have done. am not so well ac-
qusn,ed with the cost o building steamships in Engand
but am fully acquainted with The Of all kinds OF
English machinery, and can say that there is differ
ence of at least 33t per cent In favor OF English
chDery in point OF cost THIS being the fact presumed
that English steamers built about that diferesce
less than the steamers could be built for in this
country st ..s 4Hl stN i. 5fa.8a Ell l5f tIaFa
Mr.. SEWARD. I will say one word, MI President,
for the consideration OF my honorable friend from Ten
nessee, Mr. JosEs The rate OF interest England 10
per cent, while IN this country capital employed
IN operations oil this KIND, IL rs per cent-being diff
ference OF more than onehalf. Tha, would make the
difference between S2i0o00 and Sl35,000 against this
country IN Tins enterprise, which involves capital OF
three millions The rate OF wages compensation for
persons employed, from captains and engineers down
in England than here. The rate of insurance in this
county is per cent, In England 1t is per cent The
insurance upon the Collins line amounts to SI75OO0 n
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