The daily union., 1852-10-02

by the respective parties commented uponai how great
length is impossible TO say Thea they heard an argu
mcnt Of two hours from one counsel, aud afterwards
arguments occupying sx hours more How much
longer the guments would have continued il is im
bic 10 tell think. therefore, II We are TO hear MIR
fuee, II VIII be necessary for us 10 put limit 10 the
time during which he shall address the Senate and l
move to amend the resolution by saying that he b al
lowed to address the Senate for the space OF one hour
A SENATOR. Say two hours
Another SENATOR. Three hours.
Mr. MANGUM, still adhere TO the opinion that
suggested some time ago. that would be more Just TO
both the parties, and TO the Senate ITSELF lei this thing
60 TO the next session. be considered at early
day IN December Ii, however, that be not the sense OF
the Senate, hold that bound by all former prece
denls well as by OF justice, to hear this
es,an at this lime. am told that there depostons
and proofs in this which be read in al least
double the time proposed TO be allowed him By the mo-
ton OF the from Maryland, Mr. PEARcE j and
heard ought to afford him time enough for that pur
pose S adhere to the opinion that the subject ought
the of this body. move that the whole subject be
postponed until the Tuesday following the second Mon
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair does not
consider nasmuch this subject taken by
mous consent TO the exclusion Of the report OF the
mlteehe resolution being under consideration, and no,
the reportihat motion can be made to postpone This
subject must first be disposed Of
Mr.. MANGUM. Well, am perfectly willing that the
vote shall be taken upon the resolution, but feel myself
bound by the highes, obligations of justice to the contest
State which they represent, not to vote 10 give them the
sembance OF being heard, but TO allow them ample
time for that purpose.
Mr.. ADAMS. | raise a point of order. II under
stood this reading OF the communication from the contest
ant in this he informs the Senate distinctly that II
the decision should be in his favor, he will not take his
seat Therefore, he 10 be contestant Tor The seat
by his communication, and raise the question,
whether il is in order. under those circumstances 10
terrain the question whe,heT he shall be heard'
The PRESIDING OFFICER. That is not question
n Dr1e a he Chair
MIR. GWlN. think there are high obligations 10 the
member who has had seat Tor nine months on tins oor
that his claim should be decided upon that the con-
tesant should be heard before the Senate perfectly
willing that the conlestan, shall be heard for the space
OF time specified by the senator from Mary land provided
can know in advance that the sitting member wall not
occupy than hour in reply. If Mr. Yulee is 10
take but one hour am willing TO grant IT, provided can
know tha, the sitting member intends to occupy no more
time than that in reply.
Mr.. MALLORY. / am so anxious TO have decision
OF this question: that will pledge myself not to say
word in reply to any Argument or observation which the
individual claiming the seat may make
Mr. MASON. think II will be agreeable to the gen.
tleman who contests this seat 10 have the subject de-
isrred I'LL The mex, SESSION.
Mr.. BADGER The question now before the Senate
whenever this subject OF the right OF the contestant to
seat shall be taken up for consideration by the Senate
that he shall be heard in behalf of his claim and it is
proposed BY my friend from Maryland MIR PEARcrl to
limit the time for which the Senate shall grant him this
privilege. Upon that point concur entirely with what
has been said by my colleague Ii the necessities OF the
case forbid The Senate from granting what they would
otherwise gTap-berty to be heard-then, in refusing
all opportunity OF hearing the Senate yields 10 TIE me-
cessiy OF the But il we can ahord to grant time
to the gentleman who claims this sea- 10 be heard in vim
him any particular length of time We should grant
il gracefully or refuse II firmly We must presume that
the honorable gentleman will take no more time than is
necessary to make ont his and if we grant him any
time il ought 10 be what is necessary. thope there
FORE nay friend from Maryland will withdraw his propo-
stion For one, am ready 10 vote 10 favor oil the Teso-
luton. ! do not trouble myself with finding out what
may be the precedents upon this subject II sutncisn
for me 10 know that here is question exceedingly i'm
porian whether il be difficult not, and that of
the parties concerned in that quesion-one Involving the
neresis and affecting the rights OF OF the States OF
this Union-deses 10 be heard by the Senate That be-
ing the state OF the shall Certainly be very
uctant under circumstances TO refuse TO extend 10
him that privilege.
Mr.. PEARCE | am quite willing TO modify my prop
oston 10 say two hours instead OF one, or, II
the argument shall be postponed I'LL next session, 10
withdraw II altogether. cannot consent TO allow
longer time, under the present circumstances, than two
hours
Mr. BRADBURY. II seems 10 be suppossi that sen.
ators are incapable of acting for themselves, giving
vote any question without hearing long speeches.
II is conended however, by the senator from Virginia,
tMr. MAsoS,] that the contestant has right 10 be
heard thai y mol matter OF courtesy he says The
contestant comes here and c2is 10 speak senator
from Florida Why, sir, FLORIDA has two genaors upon
this floor, both having presented credentials iroI that
State. The contestant brings no authority from The
itself into question OF courtesy, and to determine that
question we have TO inquire what has been done.
The contestant has exercised hls voion, and he has
made his priaed arguments and submitted them, and
venture TO say that senator's have read them. II
have read them a,teHtvey. He then appeared before
the committee himself, and by counsel day after
day. Now, is necessary for an honest and correct
decision OF this case that should sit here and listen
10 long speech Does any one believe that a long
speech is TO affect single vote II believed that
would affect VOTE ! would giant the privilege, but
believe would not, and hat the result would be 10 throw
very long debate. submit whether we have right to
treat the senator from Florida, who is in his seat in this
mannar The sitting member has been here from the
commencement OF the session occupying bis seat, and
every mornen; asking Tor decision OF the 1t has
been an unpleasant situation for him, Think.
Mr. MANGUM rise to point oil oIder. The gem
ileman thinks that long speeches will affect nobody ]
would inquire whether it be in order to make long
speeches relative TO the merits OF The case, on the ques
ton pending
The PRESIDENT Certainly not
Mr. BRADBURY / was not discussing the merits OF
the question. ] was simply speaking gpon the point
shasher courtesy required that should hear The
courtesy, for there preeedenis for like this
and therefore think that, II would likely result in
posipoDing the matter 10 another session. ought 10 de-
eide upon the question during the present session Was
eyer heard OF that contestant came here and that the
Senate during session OF nine months, could not deter
mine who its own members were
Mr. MALLORY. Allow me 10 express the hope that
the individual who desires to address the Senate may be
heard II be had sdc the request to me- would have
laid the proposition before the Senate hope leave will
be granted 10 him TO speak two hours
MIR BADGER asked for the yeas and nays on the
hours; which were ordered; and the question being
ken resutnd-Vpas al nays Ql-ae follow