New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1852-02-11

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Who may AFTER US, and wnose POSITION may requis
IRIS subject think limit ourselves for TIE pre-
sent to The declaration Of hioIso great qaesoAs
obis atoms and our proper line Of policy But the present
hasits duties well Is the f1tnre, ara among hsse
dent s5plcaon Of her to objects within our
reach that whde exercising her nights as coequsi
md the time for Il: The day may come will cone indeed
when.we may act without hesitation as we MAJ act WIN
ffcrse
When Mr.. cAss had concluded, he said he would
Yeplv u Mr.. CLARKE on another OCCASION
III CLEMENS, OF Ala, then got the floor, and the
subject was postponed Until Thursday, to enable M
BApoER to finish his speech on the Compromise Res-
olutiols. which be Will do TO morrow.
Alter a snort Executive Session, the Senate ad'
J0"'AH HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
The Houee met at the usual hour
Mr., FAULESER vas appointed on the Committee
on Military Affairs, 10 pace of Mr.. BURT, excused
OREGON MILITARY DEFENsEs
The SPEAKER ANNOUNCED the first business 10 pc on
the motion 70 reconsider the vote by which the reso
luton passed yesterday, requesting the Presides 70
communicate to TIE House what steps, II any, nave
been tai en- TO lnsEe the protection OF emigrants en-
route 10 Oregon against the Expectations ofthe ndi
ans OF that TeuitoIy and, IN case no sucn Steps
have been for that purpose he be requested 10
cause the regiment OF mounted Ihes 70 De &c.
upon duty IN the Territory, and Designating the
points to be occupied.
M. GoRNAN maintained that the mounted rife
regiment was created especially Tor the oregon ser
vice and expresses his surprise that the Secretary
of War had recommended infantry for mounted
men, In that country, and on that frontier, where the
Indians travel ON horseback, committing depfeod'
tons az ore place to-day, and forty miles of tonor
row The Recommendation was not only novel Dut
foreign to past military experience. He knew oil no
man whose opinion he would rather defer to- for pro-
lection of the frontier than that Of the gallant rep
Yesentstive Of Oregon, General Lane The Gov
eminent should ORDER the mounted rifles back 70 VI
egon. The Secretary OF War had acted In violation
OF the law, by withdrawing them from that service
Mr.. Brooks said that as 1t seemed to be tue lnten'
tion to force the House to vote, 1t became neces-
saTy TO reply TO the remarks just delivered and to
show Why the resolution in its present FORM should
not pass The resolution proposes TO take from the
Executive the control Ofthe Army
Mr. GoRMAs, interrupting, said ne had no such In
tention and would be willing to agree TO an amend
ment TO preclude the idea The gentleman apprehends
Mr.. BROOKS was happy to hear it, and repeated,
the resolution made the House Comm anderin Chief
of the Army. This would be an assumption OF power
ard he bly DANGEROUS The custody 0fthe House is
over the Treasury. He then discussed the necessity
OF the changes which had taken place in distributing
the Army OF the United States, and said that the
Army was not large enough now to protect our en-
larged fionliers lie would vote for the resolution,
II properly amended.
Mr. CARTER said he would trouble the House with
protest against what was said yesterday, by Mr..
Bailey and reechoed by Mr. Brooks to-day. The for
mer gentlemen assumed, when the Mexican mdem.
nifty bill was under consideration that the expendi-
ture OF the money was under the sole discretion OF
tie Executive; and the same gentlemen yesterday,
insisted that the disposition Of the Army is subject
solely entrusted to The Executive and subject to his
direction ard discretion. Now, II these doctrines
should prevail, the Executive would have In ms
hands the purse and the sword. He would not place
the safety of the country in the hands of one man
II 90, the legislative power OF Congress is subsi.
died and subvertcd. The army is large enough as
to men, and God knows, large enough as TO expend-
lures He alluded TO the fact that in time OF peace,
the expenditures of the Quarter-Master's Depart
ment had gone up from one and a half to five mil
lions OF collars.
MT. MARSHALL, of Ky, said that he, during last
session, voted TO cut down the Quartermasters esti
mates $2,ct0ct0, and he was one of those who
would now vindcae thas vote, by opposing the apdnt
eopris,s which have come 10 the House, asking APP
preparations fer deficiencies. He spoke of the ao-
sense of economy in the Qnattermasters !Depart-
nent, and wished the Secretary of War ana the
QualteImasier to open their budget 1t would be
unusual 10 instruct the Executive by resolution, as
10 the s.ationing OF the Army. although Congress
hind az force shall occupy them should be left to the
constitutional Commander-in- chtef
Mr.. DuSnAM replied TO Mr.. Bailey, whose argu'
ments, he said amounted to this, that the Pres
ident has the right under all circumstances, TO con-
troll and dispose OF the military and naval forces,
cordng 10 his own will. Now, ifthis be so, the re-
sul that Cor gfess have the night TO declare
and raise troops but that The Executive would have
power 10 viii hold the troops ana obstruct the object
for which war was declared. The mounted rifle reg
iment raised for the Oregon service and the Elk
ecutvc is The officer 10 carry out the will of Con-
gfess.
Mr.. BAYlY, (of vugDia) explained, that when
Congress have raised an army. the matter OF post
ing H. here or there belongs 10 the Commander in
Chief and not 10 Cor efess, unless Congress be the
Commander in.chief lie hal never denied that
Congress have power 10 establish posts and deter
mil the ehMscier of the troops
Mr. DUsHAM resumed, and insisted that Congress
can raise troops for particular service and drec-
uon and that the Executive, SO 10 speak exercises
will of Congress. lie did not und eTStand the reSo.
luton as directing tic President, any particular
way, but Congress have the tight to request lie
appleht nded That The President was not aoOve re-
quest beng made ~ the people or their representa-
uves, ard tie trusted that time will never come.
Mr. EVANS said It had been taken for granted, by
gentlemen who have spoken, that the mounted
rifle regiment was raised especially TO be stationed
IN Oregon but ne denied that tn Law contemplated
the stationing o! this regiment ia Oregon. Besises
the regiment was Withdrawn from that Territory
Al the request of The laIs Delegats, (Mr Thurston
who said the people there were able to defend
themselves, and Congress paid Oregon oRs hundred
Thousand collars to pay the expenses of the Chey-
senne war. tie proceeded to account for the in.
creased expenditures In the Quartermaster's De-
pastment, and defended the Executive Department
Of the Government.
MT. STUART asked Mr.. Lane whether he destined
~ force a vote on The resolution.
All. LANE replied thai he had Just had a coaverSa.
uon with tho Secretary OF War, who informed hun
tnas troops would be posted on The route 10 Oregon
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