The daily union., 1852-08-13


YEAS--hessrs. Borland. Bngb. Cass, Chase Dodge OF
Wisconsin, Dodge Of Iowa. Foot Sebastian ssward Sock.
ton; sumner, Wade, Walker, and Weer--H
ma 1S-hlessfs Adams, Atchison, Badger, Bell, Brad.
bury BGodhead, Brooke Butler Cbahon Clarke Clemens
Davis Dawson psssassure. Fslch Fish, Gsysr. Hamin,
Norris Peace, prat Shields, Spruanse, Toucey Under.
wood. and Upham-sI.
SO the motion was aot agreed TO.
ROBERT GRlaRoR
Mr. ATCHlSoN asked and obtained leave 10 intro.
duce 6l for the relief OF Robert Grgnon; which
Mr. ATCHISoN | will ask that il be now consid.
cred IL II gives rise TO debate, will allow 10 lie
over.
Mr. UNDERWOOD should like 10 hear from the
senator from Missouri short explanation OF this bill
Mf AlCHlSON. ! will stale, sir that prior TO the
treaty OF 1885, the Menomonee Indians had school
iund TO The amount OF $4,000 When the treaty Of
1880 was made by my friend from Wisconsin, (Mr.
DoDGE,] they said that they wanted no school fund
they wanted THIS money appropriated 10 their friend
starving had fed them, and when they were naked had
clothed them. The clause was inserted in the treaty
but when 1t came before the Senate in pursuance OF
policy they had then adopted the Senate struck out that
clause Of the treaty Since that time Ggnon has pre-
terred his claim, and the Menomonee Indians also.
They will not touch dollar of it, and have
ceved dollar OF it. They insist that he shall have H.
Mr.. BORLAND / do not understand this subject,
sir. This is the first have heard Of it. But sir,
would like to know in what manner the Menomonee
Indians before Congress- and ask that this money
shall be so paid Was this money 10 be paid to them
in collective capacity as tribe. to be ap-
proprated 10 particular way by the treaty Have
they come forward as tribe, in their tribal character
and capacity, duly represented here and ask that this
money shall be paid in this way Or is il some one
protesting to act for them and is he authorized act
and to lanser this large interest belonging to these In
dians to Mr., Grgnon ask for information, sir.
Mr.. ATCHlSON will ask that the letter from the
Department OF the Interior be read Ii explains this
matter, and will answer the inquiry propounded by the
senator from Arkansas;
, DGrAnTMEsr OF THE IsrEnIon,
Oitce Indian Affairs, Feb. I'll, 1851.
SIR The resolution of the Senate adopted In executive
session on the 18Th inst in the words following, viz
to communicate to the Senate copy the treaty between
the United States and the Menomones tribe Of Indians
Senate whether said treaty has been submitted 10
those Indians and the amendments of the Senate agreed
by them, having been referred by you to this office,
have the honor report that the files Of the
Office afford evidence thar the treaty referred in said
resolution submitted said Indians. and the
amendments agreed to by them They have, however, i'm
pedy assenod aequiesced in all OF said amendments
yding for the annuity of 900 twenty years Robert
Grgllan. To this amendment they have ever been OPP
stipulation for Grignon's benefit should be fulfilled
Apnted copy Of the treaty sencosed. the original being
on file in the office OF the Secretary Of State.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
l.. LEA, Commissioner.
Hon. A. II. IL. STUART,
Secretary OF the Interior.
Now Mr. President this shows very clearly that these
Indians lave acquiesced Individually in all the amend
meps, excepting this one made BY the Senate and have
uniformly refused TO acquiesce in This, but insist that il
shall be paid TO Grignon II is their money, and they
made their disposition of it by treaty but the Senate did
not consent, and struck il out The Menomonees never
insist that Grgnon shall have the money. 1t to
me avery clear case and as the senator from Wscon-
sin, who negotiated the treaty, is present, will ask him
srf DODGE SHs 0a Of WIS will state tn. facts in
relation TO this item Of the treaty The treaty made
in good faith by the Indians and hsy desired that this
amount should be paid to their relative they styled
him, Robert Grgnon, who, they said, had been their
friend, had clothed them and had fed them. Since the
treaty, which was made the Sd of September, 1885,
have had frequent conferences with the chiefs OF the
Menomonee tribe OF indians They have uniformly said
10 me that they have received thai money from the
government; that II belonged 10 their friend and relative
Robert Grignon AS superintendent OF Indian affairs
they called my attention TO that subject on three or fou
different occasions, when | was holding councils with
them, to this very matter. know that this part OF the
treaty was made by them in good faith but it was moi
ratified by the Senate. | know that it the wish o
the Indians and the intention OF the chiefs and warriors
present on that occasion was in favor OF giving tha
money to Robert GngnpR. Mr. Gngnon is an estmabl,
and poor man, who has fought In defence OF this coun
try. He wounded badly. and now receives pen
sion for bis gallant services upon our exposed frontier
know him TO be honest | believe il to be right, anC
that il would be great injustice tho part Of the Senate
10 reject this claim. The honorable senator from Mch
gan MIR. CAss] was Secretary OF War at the time thes
treaties were made and is acquainted with the Grignor
family and he will bear testimony 10 the Senate
people and they stand in high estimation with the Me
nomonee Indians themselves.
Mr.. CASS. l knew the family TO which the honora
bic senator audes very we and they are as he states
very honorable and respectable people They were al
ways faithful 10 the United Staiesnoble and true mel
~ every respect know nothing OF this particular ap
plication, however.
will now remind The senator from Missouri, ,h
honorable chairman OF the Committee Indian Affairs
that when he brought forward this bill he stated that
discussion should arise he would permit ii to be post
poned trust that II will be postponed, in orde
that we may proceed TO consider the bill for a cana
around the Saut St Mary's.
MI. AICHlSON. Let us have vote upon it.
Mr.. BORLAND. A single word, MIR. Presdent-no
speech. The senator from Wisconsin mistook me al
together il he supposed that raised any objection to th
claim whatever.
Mr.. DODGE, OF Wisconsin. I did not so understant
The senator understood him 10 desire that il shout
be explained, and accordingly gave such explanation
thought due 10 my constituents, in addition to what ha,
been s,ia
Mr.. BoRLAND. My object was to elicit information
upon matter which bad not come under my observa
ton before and which seemed to to require ex
planation That which has been given is very sasfac
tory, except in one respect which is that think
would be better mode Of attaining the end and wou
most certainly accomplish the wish OF the tribe that th
money should be paid 10 them and then, II they in goo
ialth desire to pay II over 10 Mr. Grignon, they cal
do so.
Mr.. WALKER. The bill provides that il shall not b.
paid 10 bin without their express assent.
No amendment being proposed, the bill was reported 4
the Senate, and ordered TO be engrossed for thir
reading.
sAuLT ST. MARYs.
Mr.. OASS. ! move that the prior orders be nov
posponed for the purpose OF taking up The bin for tb
construction ola canal around the Sault ST. Marys. All
see that the senator from Louisiana (Mr SouLrl i
now IN his seat and the understanding that he sba
40 on to-day, am perfectly willing that he should q,
andI will call this hill after he ia tbrough