The daily union., 1852-09-15


This proposition has been pretty fully discu ssi before
in the form OF b and suppose there will be no OPP
position TO il,
Mr. BoRLAND | ask for the yeas aud nays upon
| fhe yeas and nays were not ordered
/ Mr. HUNTER. rise TO say that am in favor OF this
separate measure, bat do not wish 10 attach all
these propositions 10 the navy appropriation bill am
afraid that we shall lose the bill if attach many
amendments to il There too many things in it
Mr. Hale s want 70 naus U, Hs' Of hs i mover Of this
amendment il This survey looks to the annexation OF any
part Mo Of eM1a GS,1sI laIa1gs,s1l aa; ssas ,. !,
The question being then taken upon the amendment,
upon division il was agreed to- as folows-ayes 20,
i noes not counted.
Mr. GWiN The next amendment have TO offer is
to add as an additional section
SEC =. And be ii fsrih1 txaetsd That the President
Of the United States be auhonxd ID 10 increase the number
forty sergeants forty corpoal. twenty drummes twenty
s sa 5 and ID live @ hundred % PSysss and tina, hs sum e
ded 10 the for the paymaster department of
sanossd by AND s sS"ss
$4,000 be further appropriated for the qnsr,srmassrs
transportation, and recruiting Tor the abovs-named nen
| This is recommended by the Secretary OF the Navy
He has sent letter to the Naval Committee stating that
this increase is indispensable to give efficiency to the
| Mr.. HUNTER Ii seems to me 10 be improper to put
the whole Legislation Tor the navy upon this appropra-
u
largely and is to be put upon this bill when have
no opportunity to dscuss it. These measures which
oughtto be matured by The Committee Naval Affairs
preparation bills in this way. do not know where this
sort of Legislation is to end Not only that but it will
be seen that the departments are sending to the Naval
Committee estimates which they never submitted to the
Finance Committee in relation 10 the legitimate purposes
Of the general appropriation bills There estimates,
been carried to the surplus fund.- which ough, certainly
10 have been sent to the Finance Committee before they
are brought up in the Senate That committee ought to
have some informatoni in relation 10 these matters
| Mr.. HALE. proposition is brought in at this
late hour Of the session to increase the marine corps five
Mr. GWlN Rather than have discussion with.
draw the amendment
The next amendment have to offer is to add:
"sKo. =. And BE- it farther enacted, That the medical
surgeons and assistant surgeons in addition the num-
Der authorized by law who shall be appointed in the
same manner and be subject 10 the same regulations as
those in service"
| Mr.. HUNTER That is subject to the same objection.
! Mr., GWlN Very WELL withdraw il
have another amendment to Oher, to which the sena
tor from Wisconsin Mr. WALKrR] may properly attach
his amendment. The amendment is:
"SEo =. And be il further enacted That the per cenage
and departments a, washington be, and here
| city OF Washington"
and the highest salary of Of them is 5000 The sal
ary of the clerks the departments has been increased
and think these clerks ought to be increased.
| Mr. WALKER offer an amendment 10 the amend
ment. IL is TO add TO it:
"And the pay OF the watchmen In tho various navy
yards shall hereafter be $500 eyh per snnn,n instead Of
pay does not equal or exceed the sum Aforesaid"
The question being then taken upon the amendment to
the amendment, il was rejected
i Mr.. MORTON. would suggest to the senator from
California to amend his amendment TO add after the word
"navy- yard" tAe words land marine barracks"
! Mr. GWlN. accept il.
/ M hava duenf IN
amendment which is, perhaps not appropriate 10 this
bill, but II has much merit in IL any increase OF
The clerks in the city post office receive salaries OF from
$500 TO $1,000 year, There are, perhaps. no en-
ployees OF the government who have labored so faith
fully They have 10 pack up hundreds and thousands of
documents and send them off They are lahorng night
and day would therefore suggest that they be in
cuded 10 have the amendment extend to the clerks
Office
Mr. GWlN accept that.
The question being then taken upon the amendment
i Mr.. GWlN. have one other amendment TO offer by
direction of the Committee on Naval Affairs;
"sKo, = And be Il further s~aeisd, That the proper
directed credit the medical officers OF the navy wbo by
order Of the department. served with detachment of
addition the pay which they entitled as medical
officers Of the navy respectively, the allowance for
rsons and forage, in proportion the time they
allowed officers Of the army OF similar standing"
Mr. HUNTER. 1t seems to me that this is private
claim
The PRESIDENT The Chair cannot consider II as
strictly private claim Ii is pat these officers on the
same footing with others
j Mr.. HOUSTON. | move to amend the amendment, Of
the senator from California, by adding
"Propidsd That the pay and medica officers Of the navy
shau have the assmilated enjoyed by
the pay and medical officers OF the army"
Mr.. HUNTER. II seems TO that this is inappropri-
ate legislation upon this bill, aod this time Il seems
to me that this matter which should be brought for
ward in distinct and separate bill Il may be all right
but have time ascertain whether il is not
correct and proper II is time that through with
this bill, and proceeding to the consideration OF other
subjects.
MIR. GWIN. ! aceep, the amendment Of the senator
i from Texas.
i Mr.. FISH. | wish to say with regard to the amend
ment first offered by the chairman OF the Committee on
Naval Affairs that il is subject which determined
early in the session by that committee There were three
OF these medical officers OF the navy who BY order of
the War Department, directed 10 Join the army in
its progress from Vera Cruz TO the city OF Mexico The
naval pay bill provides in gross for the payment
OF the medical officers Having been sent upon shore
they under the necessity OF having horses and be-
ing subject 10 all the expenses OF field service the same
"a the medical officers OF the army and that pay was
allowed them while serving with the army bat on the
transfer OF their accounts from the army the Navy De-
partmen they stand charged with those expenses which
are not allowed under the naval pay bill IL seemed to
the committee 10 be proper, inasmuch these expenses
were necessarily incurred by order OF the department.
thatthey should be allowed and paid
i Mr.. HUNTER How we 10 manage these matters
on conference with the House We are multiplying
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