The daily union., 1852-09-14
Mr.. SEWARD. No. sir.

Mr.. SEWARD. No, sir.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. He proposes TO give ten at large,
AMI hen, he says, the balance Shall be arranged in con
grtssona districts.
The PRESIDENT. The amendment OF the senator
from New York is not before the Senate.
MIR. UNDERWOOD But his whole argument was
based upon that amendment. and hope that can
swer il.
The PRESIDENT The senator suggested that, il The
amendment OF the committee prevailed, he would propose
his amendment
Mr., UNDERWOOD. That was the reason which he
gave why he should vote for the committees amendment ;
and ne relies upon his own proposition reason Tor
striking that out have right to show that his
not tenabe, and constitutes motive Tor amending the
olI as me committee propose In that point OF view, The
ponent absolutely OF ten at large, and then restrict
hun to the congressional districts in appointing the resi-
due Now what authority have you, if it be constu-
tona question, TO restrict the discretion OF the President
in the selection OF the oficers' None whatever You
might as well undertake TO restrict him in the selection
OF foreign, ministers, or OF jadge OF the Supreme
Court OF any other officer, in that of pupil 10 the
Academy If il be his constitutional privilege to appoint
that pupil you cannot restrict that privilege by any such
mode OF legislation them this relates to the ap,
poinment of pupil, out OF which we may hereafter
make officer not according 10 circumstances, it il
entirely within the regulation Of Congress- and it
back TO the question upon which we must rely at last
is il prudent, il discreet is il matter of national policy
that every portion OF the country shall have partici-
patton in the appointments of the officers for that branch
OF the service which will more than anything else make
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to extend the same privilege to the senator's. be il So
am for giving the President the privilege OF appointing
ten; but we cannot restrict The appointments by the
President of the pupils throughout the whole United
States to congressional districts His constitutional priv.
ege TO appoint them is Independent OF all restriction OF
that sort
Mr.. SEWARD. Mr. President -
Mr. HUNTER. iise TO a question, not OF the appro.
priaton OF money, but OF time We have but day left
Can wegive i all to this question of appointments the
Mr. CASS dsre to say one word to the senator
from New York. There is no time for us to enter into
constitutional questions and enreat the honorable
discussion We all know that book that be has in his
hand, and | believe understand it well if he
went on TO discuss il until the next session.
Mr.. ADAMS. Nobody is listening
Mr.. CASS There is nobody listening 10 the discus
sion. II is thrice-lod iae-its iftytimesold tale
MIR. SEWARD. ! have as seldom exacted attention
tor who says that nobody is lstenlngwho speaks when
nobody listens TO admonsh not to discuss the ques
ton. merely wish to say in reply TO the honorable SEN
atcr from Kentucky, that the existing law, which was
passed in 1915, does conne the appointment of pupils
and midshpmen the States and that therefore, if ap-
ponments be restricted the States, they can be
restricted TO the districts
The question taken by yeas and nays the
amendment, and resulied-yeas 81, nays 22-as follow
YEAS-Messrs s. Adams, Badger, Bell, Bright. Beod-
head Clarke oemeas. Dawson p9oglas Fish, Ggm,
son. Miller, Merton Norris, Pratt, Seward, Smith, Soue,
Davis Dodge OF Wisconsin, Dodge OF Iowa, Downs, Fech,
Foo, Hale, Jones Iowa. King, MeIiwether Re,k Shields,
Spruance, Underwood, Upham, Wade, and Waiker-2.
So The amendment was agreed to.
The next amendment was in page hve, line ninety FIVE,
to strike out the word /" civil" and insert foreign"
Mr.. HUNTER The amendment is merely verbal
and is necessary 10 correct clerical error.
The amendment was agreed 10.
The next amendment was in the same page, line one
hundred and ive after the word "expenses" insert the
words '.of vessels"
The amendment agreed To-
The next amendment was in the same page, line one
hundred and seven, 10 insert at the end Of the line the
words
And for contingent, expenses enumerated 50 900
MIR. HUNTER. This was estimated for and inserted
by the Committee on Finance, and do not know bat
tins rs as good place as any other 10 state that the
Committee OF Ways and Means cut down the estimates
for the navy yards and hospitals; and although perhaps
the Committee on Finance would not have done If
the question had been left them, yet in view OF the
fact that there would only eiapse three months before
amned the matter, we thought il better no, 10 depart
from their recommendation. In relation 10 this item
which has been estimated for, they did not put ii in We
have agreed TO their reduction OF the estimates n other
matters have stated this much for the information Of
the Senaie.
The amendment agreed 10, and The clause as
amended reads as followsi
"For contingent expenses that may accrue for the fol-
lowing purposes Wis freight and transportation, printing
and stationery, advertising in newspapers books maps
and machinery repairs Of and attending 10 steam-engnes
in navyyads, purchase and maintenance OF horses and
oxen and driving teams, CARTS timberwheels, and the pu
chase and repair of workmen tools, postage Of public let
furniture or government houses, fuel GIL and candles
for navyyads and shore stations pay Of wstchmen and
Incidental labor, not chargeable other appropriation
labor attending the delivery Of stores on foreign stations
wharfage docsage, and rent travelling oil officers
and Others under orders funeral expenses store and office
rent stationery fuel, commissions and pay OF clerks 10
agents and stoekeepers flags awnings and packing
boxes premiums and other OF recruiting, appre
hend,ng deserters, per diem pay to persons attending
martial and courts OF inquiry and other services
thozed by law, pay judges advocate, potage and tow
age vessels and assistance vessels in distress, bills OF
health and quarantine expenses OF vessels OF the United
States navy in foreign ports S527 sos and iof contingent
expenses not enumerated, % 900
The next amendment was, TO strike out the second
section, in the following words
"SEo q dnd be IL further enacted That all parts
OF authorizing the President of the United States,
the Secretary OF tue proper department under bis direction
TO transfer portion Of the moneys appropriated for
particular branch OF expenditure in that afmen TO be
pplied another branch OF expenditure the de-
parmeni be- and hereby, far relates the Navy
De partrcnt repealed and portion Of the money
praed by this act shall be applied to the payment Of any
expenses incurred prior the LIST day Of July, 1862"
Mr.. HUNTER. This section consists of two parts
the first of which proposes TO repeal the right OF transfer
altogether, far relates to the Navy Department
That is unnecessary because the right OF transfer was
repealed by the law OF lS42 The right has been allowed
special instances but the law OF 1912 repeating still
remains in force. The other portion of the section pro-
poses TO introduce provision here which introduced
the army bill, in which II provided that OF
the money appropriated for the fiscal year should
be expended for arrears The Secretary of War has
far the navy concerned, would be manesty i'm
proper A ship might come in from a three years
cruise and IL would be necessary TO pay her out OF the
fund now appropriated. In view of these ccumsa