The daily union., 1852-09-03

edition they furnish subscribers iofj g1atls
representatives shall be appointed by The SENATE and
Speaker of tho House 10 be cShed me JOINT o'se oh
the Public Printing" &c
| The question was taken on the amendments and on
| division, il rejected.
MIR MILLER. 1 will again call the attention OF me
Senate TO the latter part OF the section l. provides
that all motions 10 print extra copies oil any o report
other public document shall be referred TO the members
OF the Committee Pnntng from The house IN WHICH
the may be made" 49,
II this should become law, then the Senate will have
no control whatever over these documents, Every mo-
lion for printing copies OF any bill or report must oil
necessity, 20 10 the Committee on Printing. Heretofore
the have always had the control OF that matter
As general rule, is perhaps correct that all such mo-
ons should 10 The committee but 1t may happen and
frequently does happen that we desire to act on the docu
menls brought before as immediately and require lhat
they should be printed immediately wish, therefore,
that the Senate would observe that the operation OF this
section OF the bill is take away from the Senate that
power which il has always retained oil ordering the prn
ing Of copies OF bills reports and TO hand II over
committee which is not under the control o NE Sem
ale AS this change appears to me TO be inexpedlent
move TO stIiAe out that faf' o he secnon "heh nave
read. tzlt
Mr. BAYARD barely want to state that in intro
ducing the amendment which oferei' ana whlch me
Senate adopted, was willing, nasInuch as there was no
time debate the provisions oil the bil although oo-
ecled TO Its general provisions II II were TO be perma-
nent system agree 10 il a temporary measure In
that view of the case il did not matter whether the bill
passed in the shape in which il was introduced, or
whether it underwent the various notifications which
would be necessary in il was intended to become
permanent. My object to stop debate but II seems
that there an inclination which seems TO be pretty gem
eral TO defeat the bill by Offering amendments Under
these circumstances and judging OF this from the course
which has been taken, shall avail myself OF the pvi-
lege OF voting against my own amendment wheh IL
up the Senate trusting that the bill may De SUIT
ably altered next session thought my amendment
would secure my object; but inasmuch as the bll IS
merely temporary there Is really no urgent necessity ior
periecting it's details at this time
The question was taken on the amendment and y was
rejected.
section of the bill provision, that "he following rates
OF compensation shall be paid from time TO me for such
printing may be ordered by Congress = and then IN
the eleventh section, the bill provides ''that the same
prices shall be paid for printing for the executive depart
mens that are paid for printing for Congress" Now,
the honorable Sc nator from Maine Mr.. HAMLIK] said
that although the prices stipulated in the bill Tor the
congressional printing might be right, yet II would be
manesy wrong to give the same prices Tor the printing
department printing for less than half the amount which
here allowed for the congressional printing u that be
so-and have no doubt OF the senator's accuracy-lhe
matter certainly ough, TO be corrected move there
ioe in the eleventh section, to strike out the following
words .a
Shall be paid for printing for the executive departments
tlat are paid for printing for Congress"
The effect of this amendment is simply TO Withdraw
the prices which are allowed by this bill Tor congesson
printing from being applied 10 the printing OF lhe de-
pailmens The section afterwards be amended in
such TO make II read right My object Is TO
test the OF The Senate.
MIR. DOUGLAS As the department printing has been
referred again. will make remark IN explanation OF
remark which made 10 the senator from North Caro-
lima, Mr.. MANGUM | made my statement IN regard 10
The department printing not beng in accordance with the
contract on such statements as nave heaId, ana on
know il. do not wish 10 be understood as Affirming u
TO be stated what believed to be true, al
though has since been contradiced leave The state
10 go under the general rumor without any endorses
menl from me
MIR. DAWSON. was about TO call Tor the yeas and
nays on that last question. As am up, will make an
inquiry for my own information. 1t was stated by the
senator from Maine, Mr.. HAmLN, that the printing OF
the apartments could be done for half the cost OF
the printing for Congress That declaration having been
made by friend OF the bill
Several SENATORS Oh, no, He is no friend OF the
MIR. DAWSON Well. he is by no means desirous of
preventing the object oil the bill IRON being carried into
execution. The matter will create an impression on the
public mind that intending 10 impose on the coun
Try The proposition of the senator from Maryland
Mr. PRATrl is reasonable and fair one. IL Is now
announced publicly TO the country, by senator who IS
fully informed upon the subject as any other member
Of this body, who is chairman oil the Committee on
Printing, that 10 pay double the amount which
wouI otherwise have TO pay, and double the amount
for this printing which government has usually PAID
and which understand we are PAYING now h 40 b no,
called TO IL the impression has been made upon my
mind and II will necessarily be made upon the mind OF
the country. The nteuogatory will be Ptopounded,
WHY is this done I" Ia il To make appropriation OF
the public money printer who 10 be elected, merely
for tue purpose OF increasing that COMPENSATION, with
be soand IL has been announced, and has not beea
contovered or denied-wi il not be strange fact TO
present TO our constituents
Several SENATORS NO, no!
Mr.. DAWSON. Gentlemen may say "Noi" but
saw Yes; !" and have 10 that conclusion, not
from any disposition to embaass the bull, for in that
spect have not opened my mouth. | wanted TO know
whether the fact have stated, If any friend OF
the will deny the assertion. II there be any
sucb let him and give his Tor stating tnat
is not true desire 10 vote uDdersandingly upon the
subject for | am not going voluntarily 10 give vote
which may indirectly take money out of the treasury
without any adequate consideration for the same. do
not say that this so but the declaration made by
the senator from Maine, and II has not been conlro-
verled ea.
Mr.. RUSK know that every question which comes
up al this tne-near as TO the month OF Novem-
ber-w be something like the Indians barrel OF wbiskey
was present on occasion at Indian " talk when
man drove up with barrel OF whiskey; an old Indian
who was sitting by liked his eye the baIre and alter
looking earnestly for time, asked me II knew
what was in that barrel said II was whiskey, pre-
suped No, said he there about thousand songs
and 6fty fights in that barrel do not believe that any
proposition be brought here about this time, which
will not contain vast number OF political speeches, and
large amount OF party and presidential capital.
know very little about printing was placed on the
Committee Printing by the Senate, and what hle
knowledge have has been acquired amidst many other
pressing duties. When went upon the committee,
was anxious that a tariff OF prices should be hxed
wished that that point should be settled, so that there
might be mistake, and that every one might have an
Opportunity OF seeing what work was done, and what
was paid for it, | did not care how many stump
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