Richmond daily times. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1853, 1852-03-25

+ kiod enough 10 explain why it was thar Mr.. Web
steg, the present Seeretsry Of State, when he was
srsyorsinS the State Of New \ ork last summer,
+ IN company With MIR, Fillmore, declared his eva
opinions aud those of the President identical
upon this subject, and declared, at he same time,
thar he Mr.. WebSJer,l teas ifrerocab}g opposed
+ t9 he 4E@iSSioa>of ogg Stare terr9toryy DID
f Mr., Webster make false representation or my
f colleague certain that he understands Mr.. Fill
more'S position
/ Mr.. MARSHALL. l saw all OF this IN the
/ speech Ct the gentleman from Fior'tS on the r
+ terrogstory OF my colleague Why is it repeat
+ Ell
Mr.. BSEcNySRIDsE. Because did not ger q
satisfactory answer then. want one now.
+ Mr. MaRSAHLL. l do not know how far Mr.
Fillmore eau be held responsible BY this country
Ter Mr.. Webster's speeches. | certainly do not
know under what circumstances Mr.. WebSter's
speeches were made. | understand the PreSi-
dent % be responsible for the acts Of the Secre-
tary Ut State but not for Mr.. Web>ter's dinner
speeches. or his railroad speeches, or any other
matter not transacted in his official capacity.
Mr. BREcKHSRIpGr. Mr.. Webster said the
Administration was a unit upon chat subject.
Mr. MARSHALL. | have heard from the gem
slen2sn upon this subject before; but | suppose
every gentleman in the rhirty-tirsr Congress will
understand Observation-Disclosures, ii they do not
understand it, they do not understand the import
Of the English lauguage-thae the States which
are to be carved out Of the Territories will come
into the Union as States, with or without
slavery, as the people forming the State may
choose.
The gentleman asks mo if Mr.. Fillmore is in
favor OF thar Why, sir, that is nominated
in the bond It is the point, distinctly and en-
pllaticaly, as my other colleague Mr.. Boyd, who
sat lust before Mr. Aarshall,l we'll knows, upon
n ~ -,
consideration we received. That killed "tle
N'ilme5 s-oyiso." The power Of the people be-
Ieu-ed to them, it is tue, before; but it was
distinctly asserted in BoVD's amendment, aud it
was taa Ringing point Of all. We would have
ulsliug ambiguous about it. and BoYp's ameud-
nleut contains that provision in express terms. We
would n5t have passed the Texas Boundary bill
without it. Nv colleague will sustain mo.
Mr.. BoYp, of kentucky. 1t is in the bill.
lEr. MARSHALL. Does not every one recolect
that it IS in tie bill! Therefore, am astonished
when nay younger colleague asks me if Mr.. Fill
more, wdo signed the BILL is in favor of it, and said
/ that IS what we, the 'kentucky Democracy
understand by It. OF course they do, and so do it
aI If Mr.. Nebsterasserted that he understood
it in shy other way, can only say, that "Joye
sometimes mods
have heard 1t said, and repeated in this Hall,
| have seen it published in partisan newspapers,
that those Compromise measure We're Democratic
neesures-that the Democratic party was entitled
/ TO the credit of them. MIR. colleague, joining
/ the generalchorus, commends silence and modesty
/ 10 the Southern Wings on the whole question Of
slavery 1t is needless, Mr.. Chairman, to ransack
the past for proof to rebut this direct accusation
made against tie Southern Wings by the honor
able member. Look at the vote of the Southern
| Wings upon the test questionable passage of the
Texas Boundary bill. with the amendment embrace
ing the Institution ofciyil government in the Ter
ritoFies-coatrast it with the vote of the Southern
Democracy upon the same test. The country will
then easily Judge whatvalidity there is in the claim
asserted for the Democratic party and which
Of the parties in the South should most incline to
preserve silence and to practice modesty upon the
subject. There were twenty-eight Wings from
the slavehodiug States in the thirty first Congress.
OF those two were absent when that vote was
taken. Bothwould have voted for the proposition.
Of the tweuty-six who were present, twenty five
voted in favor to one against the test proposition.
On the other hand, the Democratic representa-
tives from Louisiana, Arkansas Mississippi, North
Carolina, South Carolina, and all, except one
from the State of Alabama, cast vote against the
proposition This count will satisfy the country OF
The relation each of the parties from the South
held to the compromise bills. A Democratic
I Insasuret Where was the Democrat from
Arkansas! Where the Democrats from Mis-
sissippii frUra louisiana from South Carolina?
from North Cardinal from Alabama! Where
were the majority of the Democratic representa-
tiives from the State Of Virginia!
= Mr.. BATLF, of Virginia l beg your pardon
Mr.. MARSHALL. I do not require the gentle
man to ask my pardon about it. Suppose we try
your Democrats by that which we all acknowledge
I TO be the test yote-tne vote upon BoTD's amend
uent and upon the Texas Boundary bill, as amen
ded by the Territorial bill, establishing civil gov
eminent in the Territories. say these will be
recognised by every fair as the test votes upon
/ the Compromise measures.
Mr.. BREcEEsRIDeE. Including the Fugitive
| Slave law!
/ Mr.. MARSHALL. There wa. no debate about
the Fugitive Slave bill. and men upon all sides of
/ the House understood the tests to be as | have
stated. and that the balance of the series Of mea
sures was TO pass as a mater Of course.
/ Mr.. HAaaIs, Of Tennessee. If the gentleman
/ from Kentucky will allow me, I will ask him if
/ BoTD's amendment to the Texas Boundary bill
was not adopted by more Democratic than Wing
gotes1 He will find by reference to the Journal
rhatsfxty-one Democrats and only forty-six Wings
voted sor that amendment
Mr. MARSHALL I will not do the gentleman's
part any injustice; for have come here to rlndi
cote sse tr5sls ofbjstorg. Laughter.l am now
examining where the Southern Democrats were.
say chat the Democrats from the States of rkan-
sas, Louisiana, Mississippi South Carolina, North
Carolina and all ba5 o23s, from Alabama, cast the
united vote If the Democratic party against the
measure Virginia
Mr.. MEADE Will the gentleman allow me TO
interrupt Elin3
Mr. MARSHALL. have but few moments
i wliIdo Virginia Justice.
1r. MEADE. VIII you take an admission from
nasl adnaic that n every portion Of that Com
promise 7are the South conceded any thing, the
Why's did $. Laughter.
TT. @4asaaI.L. I will enter that upon the
Journal as caa declaration Of the gentleman; az
sta5e Rights man, who Is yet discontinued with
the CoTl5eall4ae. The vote a. rec llece i, Of
the Democratic portion Of the Eirginia representa-