The Lancaster gazette. (Lancaster, Ohio) 1846-1852, 1852-02-12
D. KoesurH AND MR. CLAY.
The Speeches at their Late InteFvlew-Im' :
Prsssive Incidents,

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lave hern sulnewhnl iuaceuruts. aud, al the best,
imperfect The Naliuual Intellisencer, Of yester
lay. supplies the deficiency as !uows;
The company present uu the occasion consist ed
,f Senators Cass, Jones, Of TenneSsee, Mr. Fen
lall, Of this CITY, aud the Hon. Presley Ewing
lt Kentucky. The last named gentleman has
been induced. at the instance 0l several persons
aud with the consent of Mr.. Clay. Ia give a more
extended and careful report 0f the interview anu
nf Mr.. Clay's remarks, which we Puo
lish below. aud which may be regarded as a,i'neh-
tic, having, besides the authority OF Mr. Ewing
the saucliun Of Senator Juues, by whom the re-
port has been examined aud apPInvel'
NJ. Kussuth was introduced by Mr. Cass at
about three O'Clock. On being presented 10 Nr'
Clay, who rose 10 receive HIM Slr' Sau Ie'
= thank yuu for the honor OF ms lhltrVle"
81 beg you To believe" said Mr. Gay inier
rupling him. "tlmt it is who am hOhoreu' "h'
you I've pleased tD be seated
After the mutual interchange Of civilities, al
owe YOU, sir' said Mr., Clay .'an apology or not
bayin, 4, acceded before To the desire you were
kind enough to intimate more than once. 10 SEQ
me. But renlly my health has been so feeble that
did mt dare 20 hazard the ex element ui su in.
teresting on interview Besides, sir" lie added.
with some peasautry, 'your wnuderinl aud las
cinuting eloqueuce has ulesmerIzed So large
portion Of our people, wherever you have gone,
and even some OF our members ot Congress"
waving his hand towards the two ur three gentle
men WHO were present "lfat ieared 10 e"'he
under Its nifidence' lest yoI might SoiEe my
lhlth III some pfmclples III resafu W 'he '"r'
elSn poHcy Ol tbIs Goverhlnenl Wihch nave 'onS
aud constantly cherished Aud in regard to this
matler, you will allow me- hope. tO spenk with
lhal sincerity ana chnuor whlch hec"mes 'le III
lereSl lle sunlect mas Ior y"u anu i"r my sell auu
wblcllls due i0 lis botll MS the VOlarieS ol "ce
dom. trust you VIII oe'ieVe me too' ""eh
tell you Ilult ehterlhln ever lhe hNe.eSt sy"Pa'
titles IN every struggle Tor liberty. III Hungary,
and III every country AND III tils' Deile'e'
express tie universal sentiment 0' my couhlry'
men. But. sir. ior the sake ol my country yon
must allow INC 10 protest a9hlnst uhe pOilcy you
propose tn her. Waving Tie grave anu hlo'heh'
tous question oi tile right "f one nallon 10 assume
the executive power among hntlons lor INC eh,
iorcement "i internalonal law or nl the rISht Ol
tile United States to dictate I" hnsSm llle chhrac
ter Oi her relations win the hailnhs arouhu ner'
let US cume at once to lhe practical consideration
Ol tue matter a..
"Y0u tell us yourself with grent trn'h ana pro
| prlety. that mere sympathy nr tie exp esslOh O
sympathy, cannol advance yonr purposes lou
require material ald. And indeed II Is hlahlles
that the mere dec aratons Ol sympathy 0t Con
gress. or Of the President, rot the public. would
he ol little avail, unless we were prepared 10 Ell
iOrcs those declarations by resort to arms, and
unless other nations could SEQ that preparation
aud determination upon our part Wen, SIR
suppose That war should lie the Issue oil The course
You proPnSe To us. could we Then effect any
thing lW you ourselves or lie cause oi llDerly
To transport men and arms across Inc ocean II
sufficient numbers anh quantities 10 oe ehcc
tive against RUSSIA aud Austria would DO linposSl
bic ltl'h lact winch perhaps may NOT oe gen
orally known, that the most imperative rehSol
win Greht Drllaln lor lhe close Of her laSt wa
with US. was Tie Imnense costnl the trh'SpOru'
tiui aud maintenance ul forces anu te ihuh''io"
Ol war on such Distant theatre, hhh yet sue na'
not peril 'ps more tlmn thirty Thousand men uPo!
tliIs conliliehl hl any Time Upon luhd h'lSS'a
lnyulherablo to u.s. us we are to her. upon u
ocean, n war between Rnssla nnd ms cO"n'r
would resu III tie mutual annoyance To CON
lDerce. but probably III little else learn recent
" her wnr marine Is superior To lhht "i any ha
lloli ~ Europe, except perhaps dreai bii'hin =
Her pors are lew her commerce limited; whIi
we, on our phrt would 0iier as prey 10 her cEui
sers rch ana extensive commerce:
Thus, slr.alter eiiectlnB nothing III such war
after Abandoning our ancient pnhcy VI h'h''y nh
non intervention IN lhe uliirs ol oher hat"hS' ah
thus jnslyinS them IN abandoning the terms q
iorhearnnce aud nnn-inleIlerence wllch 'he
hive hitherto preserved towards us. alter III
downa !, perhaps. OF the friends ot liberal INST
tulions in Europe, her despots, initiating aud pr,
voked by our fatal example, may turn upon us l
the hour of our weakness aud exhaustion, ant
vii uus PuunlIV lTft.sIstIlln IuICB oil rpusO
: and OF uruls, they may say 10 us, Yuu have st
us the example, you nave quit your avn To sian
on iOreign ground, you have Abandoned ne poiic
you proessed III the day ol yonr weakness, /
interfere in the ufulrs ul the people upon III
continent, IN behalf OF those principles Tue I'll
premacy OF which ynu say Is necessary tu you
existence, We, In our turn. believing That You
annIchlcnl doctrines are destructive oi, and thH
monnrchicu principles are essential TO- the peace
security. und hnppiness Ol our subjects viii Ut
terule the bed which has nourlshed such nos
mus weedS we will crush YOU as the prOlnSiI
dlsts Ol dncrines 50 destructive Ol the peace an
good order Of the world The iudomliable spr
Of our people might mud would be cqlal 10 I'll
emergency. aud we might remain unsubdne
even by 81 tremendous II combination, but I'll
consequences to us would be terrible enough =
You must allow me, sr IN spenk thus freely, ns
leel deeply though my oplnion may be "l ut
liIlo import, as the expression Of dying mon.
"Sr, the recent melancholy snbverson OF th
Republican Government ul france, aud that er
llsltened nali"n voluntarily placing It's neck Ihdo
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