The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-12-22

ants He conceived this proposition TO be movement
MIR, RICHARDSON desired to propose an amend
ment, making obligatory the COMMITTEES TO re-
port forty days least before the close OF the session
But Mr.. STEPHENS, OF Georgia, declined yielding the
not seconded by the House-ayes so, noes 81. .o ~
Mr.. CLEVELAND admitted the necessity for changes
in the rules by which the honest claimant might have
prompt trial before the House than he Is now sure
OF obtaining yet he did not conceive that this proposi-
ton would compass the object OF the mover The pro-
posed committee merely required 10 pass on the
favorable reports OF present standing committees he
conceived that the effect OF the resolution II adopted
would be to deny claimant trial. II he happened to
have report against him from any present standing
COMMITTEES by majority OF one. .sl
NIT. BROWN, o. Mississippi. explained that inc I'M,
preston OF Mr Y was wrong The claimant aSalnst
whom an adverse report would be made would have The
trial which the rules allomsd hm.s
| MIR. G. tconiinung) differed from Mr. BRowNs view
OF the operation OF the proposed rule, and went on to
prove that an adverse report from present committee
il the rule be raised would practically foreclose
Mr. C. held that if lie House would industriously de-
vote Fridays and Saurdays-the regular privae-hil
daysto the consideration OF private business the inter
esis OF honest claimants would be sufficiently attended
| to. The remedy within the reach Of the House
He held il to be attendance Fridays and Saturdays
Mr c. argued at some length 10 show that this remedy
alone necessary, unless II might be agreed 10 give
the present Committee OF Claims leave TO SIT during the
| recess.
Mr.. BROWN, of Mississippi. Qntenupting Mr.. CO
held that il was wholly unnecessary to authorize COM
mee TO sit during the recess The House had reports
| enough. All that necessary was the more
thorough investigation result from the creation OF the
| new committee OF fifteen. 1t was, in fact a committee
to guard against errors committed against the govern
ment in favorable repons-not TO interfere with the
right interests OF the claimants in case OF unfavorable
Mr.. CLEVELAND. again resuming the floor. argued
that the debate had already shown that the proposed
machinery of legislation claims would lead only TO
greater embarrassmens and delays aeE
After few more remarks from Mr.. CLEVELAND in
favor OF The positions he had assumed, So
Mr. STUAR said that he conceived that the practical
operation OF the proposed rule woald be bad and went
on to illustrate this position by showing that would
be give the entire Jurisdiction claims in the House
TO this committee, who to be appointed by the Chair
IL the report sent with the case was in printing, Il
was to 60 10 the new committee Ii not was not even
to go before them Such claims sent up TO the
new committee which might not recsive its sanciion
would be defeated surely by their adverse report the
| new committee contained forty items which member
sanctioned, and ten which his judgment told him were
improper, he would The end be forced to vote for the
ten to vote for the forty He held that the appointment
OF this committee would make the Heuse private
claims in the aggregate as they were forced to act on
the items OF the bills reported from the COMMITTEES OF
Ways and Means He conceived that ii il possible,
all experienced members would desire TO have each such
item submitted 10 his approval by ITSELF This new rule
would make the appropriations Tor private claims Gen
ate in the last hours OF the session. leaving the result in
each in contest between the houses entirely to the
action OF Il committee OF conference. irt ~ ~
Mr.. g. (connuing) went to prove that an adverse
(mnori,y) report could not be made, so as 10 obtain
proper consideration before the House, alter the majority
report had gone to the general committee
Mr. CAMPBELL, of Illinois, next addressed the
House, 10 show The necessity OF improving the system
OF adudcatng claims. Al present, hope deferred
the honest claimants lo and when his demand was &C.
knowe edged he almost invariably found himself shorn OF
onehaif OF his rights by the expenses attendant on his
efforts TO get them. This proposition. Mr. C. held, had
real merit He believed that the improper claims were
the large They rarely small demands, which
should rightly be sent such committee, through
whose action, he conended, the rights OF claimants
would be more speedily accorded TO them
Mr.. c. (contnuing) explained at some length the in
holding that could fa resa benefciay TO the
treasury well as the claimant
Mr.. WASHBURN next addressed the House at some
length in favor OF the proposed change in the rules.
Mr.. STANLY then addressed the House against The
propositions conendng that the evil was inherent in the
course OF the House claims, and that il the rule
should be adopted, il would operate principally for the
benefit OF future GalphnlZers. VIII. y y. .e6i
Mr.. FREEMAN proposed TO amend the proposition by
substituting in its place another requiring the Committee
on the Judiciary TO inquire into The propety OF dele
eating 10 the district courts OF the United States the sh
of deciding the justice and validity OF claims on the
Mr. F. addressed the House in favor OF his amend
men explaining that he contemplated the necessary con-
sutuonal action of Congress, in making the arsopria-
ton in each after decision favorable 10 the claim
had been rendered by the couhat Is, before the
demand could be paid from the treasury.
MIR. SACKETf argued at some length against the
MIR BROWN, OF Mississippi, replied briefly to some of
the various points made against his resolution in the
Mr.. JOHNSON, OF Arkansas, held that the condition
OF claims upon the government such to render
the position Uf a member most Tksome whenever he
passed without the bar, and that il resulted in utter
hopelessness of relief, and in ruin for the OF the
claimants He coniended that much uttered against
claims the government generally unfounded. He
illustrated at length the cruel injustice TO claimants,
sultng from the pursued by those members who
the principle that there cannot be just demand
the treasury. Mr.. j. referred at length 10 pre-
vious efforts remedy the evils involved in the
in which Congress al present adudcaed claims;
viewing in The OF these remarks the history Of
all the efforts heretofore made embracing attempts TO
compass the establishment OF claim board, 10 induce
Congress to authorize claimants TO the government
&c and showing that there prospect of inducing
any such legislation. He conended that the only alsss-
eraton the merits of which be exp lained length
Mr. j then moved the previous question which being
seconded by the House,
The question arose the amendment OF Mr.. EREr-
MAN; which not agreed to-ayes SO, noes 70.
Mr. STUART moved to lay the resolution the Ia
BILE
On which motion Mr.. SWEETSER demanded the
yeas and nays which being ordered il not laid on
the table-yeas ~, nays 90.
The question recurring the passage OF the resou-
ton,
Mr. SWEETSER demanded the yeas and nays which
being ordered, IL was not adoPted-yeas u, nays So
Mr. STANLY moved to reconsider this vote, and then
to lay this motion on the table.
Pending the question this last motion
Mr. EWING, by leave, oleted resolution directing
the Committee the Judiciary inquire into and re-
port upon the proprey OF amending the constitution
to have the presidential and vice presidential electors ex
cept the senatorial electors hereafter chosen by the legal