The daily union., 1852-09-14
CONGRESSIONAL.
DEFERRED DEBATE.
MONDAY, AUGUST 30, 1862.


On mo,ion by Mr. GWIN The Senate, as in committee
OF The whole resumed the consideration Of the bill ma
king appropriations Tor the naval service for the year
ending June 30 1853 which was reported from the Com
mItee on Finance with various amendments.
The first amendment of The committee in the clause
for pay Of commission, warrant. and petty officers and
seamen, including The engineer corps OF The navy, w.
I'll 445 TO strike out "A4S, and insert "69S " and add
10 the clause the following:
Propifd That from aud after the lst of July, 1884, the
salary Of The secretary OF the naval academy at Annapolis
shall be s., ,250."
Mr. HUNTER That is an increase Of $3.50 on the
present salary OF the secretary OF the Naval School
Annapolis 1t is made upon the urgent recommendation
OF the department. and is the only salary which we pro-
pose 10 increase.
The amendment was agreed to-
AppoIsrMRsrs TO THE NAVAL SCHOOL,
The next amendment OF the committee was to strike
out of the bill the following words
"And hereafter appointment of midshipnan, acting
midshpman, pupil at any naval school In the navy
shai bo made, unless recommended by the member Of
Congress representing the district in which the applicant
resides ia The same manner that cadets at Wes Point
are now appointed and that The Secretary OF the Navy
hereby required report this House, lis second
sion, number and names OF appointments to the Naval
School which have been made and the district and State
whence each comes, and the number OF vacancies
then existing sad school, with the congressional district
which may be ented TO supply them, and statement OF
the order in which the remainder OF the congressional dis
shall be entitled TO supply all future and eccruing
csncies faT be determined by existing law,
by circumstances
Mr.. HUNTER. The committee thought that this was
matter OF legislation which we have time now to
consider properly and that It was of doubtful proprely
to adopt that provision We thought it therefore better
Mr. UNDERWOOD Ii understand that part Of the
bill which the committee recommend 10 strike ont, il
proposes to introduce the system in regard TO the
appointments OF boys 10 the naval schools that we have
IN regard to the Military Academy. II that be the OBJ
Iect, hope the amendment may not prevail do not
think want any discussion upon subject plain
that at least If understand 1t, my mind is satisfied TO
vote without any discussion upon It, | woul therefore
ask the chairman OF the committee to explain 10 me
whether that part OF the bill does not propose put the
appointments to the Naval School precisely upon the
same footing with appointments TO the Military School
at West Poist
Mr. HUNTER. 1t does not pat them precisely upon
the same footing II puts Them the footing so
lar as congressional districts concerned but there is
no provision in the clause for appointments al large
The doubt in the committee was whether there ought
70 be some provision for appointments at large by the
President and whether senators each ought pos.
sess the power OF naming Under these crcumstan-
ces, we think u better 10 postpone tie consideration of
the subject until the next session.
Mr. UNDERWOOD. hope we willlet the clause e.
main and If II should become polite hereafter to ex-
tend the patronage OF the President BY allowing him the
same privilege with reference TO the Naval School that he
has with reieIence 10 The Military Academy, il will be
easy introduce amendment OF that sort next session
when we consider it, If be proper 10 extend the
privilege TO members Of the Senate, to give them
little patronage can take that also into consideration
next session AT present, BY adherBg the bill
came from the House, we will Just put the appointments
an the navy upon the footing of appointments in the
army. hope the amendment will not be agreed 10
a division was had upon the amendment but before
the result was announced,
MIR. Haze asked for the yeas and nays upon il, and
Mr. GWlN should like full understanding of this
provision 10 be had IL was introduced into the other
House without the recommendation Of any committee,
and without any mature delberalon Ii the object
OF the Committee on Finance well the Committee
on Naval Affairs Of the Senate. 10 plan for these
appointments There application before the Com
mtee on Naval Atairs from le Secretary OF the Navy,
asking that the President may have power appoint ten
boys to the Naval School, in The same that he
has TO make appointments 10 West Point, the ground
that meritoous officers IN the navy not having any To-
caiy, being ordered from point point nave no oppo
tuniy 10 have conferred upon their the benefits of
THIS school. The object OF the Committee on Finance
as well as OF the Committee Naval Affairs, is bring
forward athe next session, when there will be time 10
mature H. bill IN connexion with this subject giving
also the power 10 senators TO nominate.
Mr.. ATCHlSON. | voted under a misapprehension in
regard 10 this case voted, upon DIVISION 10 strike
the clause from the bill. Now think IL is very proper
clause know nothing which will distribute the patronage
OF this government more, so far the Naval School and
the navy are concerned than the clause from
the House. The argument OF the senator from Cahfo
MIA that there are certain officers in the navy who have
no liked residence.
Mr.. GWlN. said that the Secretary OF the Navy had
applied 10 Congress TO confer the power upon the Pres
dent 10 appoint Ten boys TO the Naval School at large
the cadets OF West Pom, appointed the ground that
there are many merorious officers Of the navy who
never could get boy into the Naval School under this
provision, unless appointments at large were made
Mr.. ATCHlSON will guarantee that those officers
viii get Their share, and more than their share.
Mr JoNES, oil Iowa. Every officer OF the navy comes
IRON some place
MIR. ATCHISON. Yes, sir, and he has a citizenship
10 some place The fact OF his being an officer in the
navy does not deprive him OF citizenship; for the mo-
men he leaves The navy, presume that moment he is
entitled 10 all the rights and privileges o the State in
which he resided when he appointed | am decidedly
IN favor of the clause as II stands; and repeat voted
Tor striking out under entire msapprehenson upon
TOE general principle that everything that strike ilom
the bill has tendency TO perfect it,
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. ! am against all monopolies in
behalf OF families individuals in appointments in the
navy and my object Is to spread these appointment nts
through all the sections OF the Unon and thereby secure
in every congressional district interest on behalf of
this great OF The public defence II you do that
you will secure interest IN the navy in the interior
States which has been felt before and you will be
disseminating officers throughout the country, well
on the board In regard the objection OF my friend
from California, that have no time 10 mature The sub
lecl, will only say, let make this commencement,
and at the next session give the privilege to the
President and 10 senators, II think proper enlarge IT.
Mt BADGER hope the provision will be stricken
out agree with my friend from Kentucky in the main
opleci which be has in view but the proposition to re-
n n y h's bill provision that there is 10 be one mid
man aken from each congressional district. and that
- W oe appointed upon the nomination OF the mem
w w vulecuons In the first place, it deprIves all the
o. hs body OF any ioierest direct indirect,
~ pphs zoe appointment Of any person IN that arm
=, Y'e Pupuc service and all officers OF whatever
n an commissioned oihcers-are originally mldship
' a'u me promoted from that CORPS IL of gives
~ .e msmoss OF the House OF Representatives the de-
ren h,a u % appointment Of all the officers in the navy