The daily union., 1852-12-29


Mr. BoRLAND. As there is no quorum voting. call
1 tor The yeas and nays,
The yeas and nays were ordered.
MIR SHIELDS As the aud nays have been ordered,
will merely say that IL the Statements IN The report be
true this within the ept OF existing laws upon
this subject and upon that view VIII vote Tor II we
have no means OF knowing whether the statements are
true, and must trust TO the committee, ~
MIR. BORLAND. | will say, so far as the iacls sci
forth IN the report are concerned that think tue Senate
bound to take them tfae. Alter committee o the
body have Investigated subject, aud upon Their reeponsl-
bty senators have reported the result OF that nvesi
CATION from the evidence before them, think II should
be regarded that their report is true must take II 10 be
true, and shall vote for the caim The House have also
done the same.
Mr.. HALE. It's no, in order torster TO the hSase as
authority.
The PRESIDENT The Chair will state that the
yeas end nays having been ordered debate is out OF
order
Mr. HALE / beg leave to say that think the Chair
Is mistaken. Debates have taken place here for weeks
and weeks after The yeas and nays have been ordered
The PRESIDENT The Chair is aware that such has
been the prscce but II is against the rules OF The Senate
Mr. HALE. should like 10 have that point settled.
hink the practice has been uniform 10 allow debate to
go on alter The yeas and nays have been ordered. ,
Mr.. SEWARD. Debate, believe, is IN order until the
first name is called
The PRESIDENT The senator from New York is
Mr. HALE will inquire OF the honorable senator
from Arkansas. who was upon the Committee on PEN
sons, if there any evidence before the committee
cep verbal declaration going 10 show that tbe Stale OF
man commission as surgeons mate
Mr. BORLAND cannot answer that question. AL
though was al The time member OF the committee,
cannp! now ecolect the particular circumstance Of the
am not member of the Committee On Pen
sions, and cannot give the facts in detail fknow,
however, that an investigation was made by the honor
able senator from Vermont, Mr.. FooTl who made r-
port as subcommittee giving all the facts but cannot
undertake say what all the particulars remember
that the committee were fully satisfied at the tme and
authorized the report TO be made.
Mr.. HALE. Well, sir | think this is dangerous
pecedenta very dangerous one The fac, is. this man
never had commission either from the State OF Con-
neccu from the general government, and there was
evidence that such the case. The committee
were satisfied of il from certain verbal declarations
made by this man and that man about what took place
seventy years ago, and upon that alone this claim
made upon the general government. But he never
commissioned. He was a surgeons mate-that is,
surgeons mate just exactly in the way in which every
doctor the country makes mate OF the student under
hip. That is the whole extent of the case He went
with his father when the regiment to which he was
attached engaged, and attended upon some of the
wounded That is the only service the report presents
having been done BY him that is all it pretends he
did but besides that he held himself readiness to
do service, but that is all he did, and here we are
called upon 10 give him pension OF $l40 year for one
call-for visit; that is the whole OF it, and with
evidence, except indefinite OF evidence. that be
was ever commissioned or held the ofice-Sl4o year
Mr. WELLER | have known that to be paid for one
vis, of physician in California.
Mr. HALE. Ii may have been done in California, but
in opposition to this bill il The Senate desire TO
pass If.
Mr.. BORLAND. | wish TO say single word fur
ther upop this matter The honorable senator from New
Hampshire [Mr HALEI says that this individual rendered
certain service and more, and therefore the COM
mitiee mistaken in their report.
Mr.. HALE. did not say they were mistaken.
Mr.. BORLAND. The committee have made repor,
of facts the evidence OF which the senator says does
not exist
Mr. HALE The committee report so themselves
MIR we have he Sta menf
from New Hampshire agains, the report of the
committee II is for the Senate to say which they will
take
| Mr. TOUCEY. ! wish to state thing The COM
,tee OF The Senate have found the evidence OF the fact Of
the servcehey have found that exPressyand found II
by adopting the report OF the committee OF the House OF
Repre- seniaves And they have found the further act
that this individual was paid for seven months service IA
surgeons mate. Now, the records in the comproliefs
office OF the State OF Connecticut show the fact OF pay
men in such cases generally; whether they do IN tbs
case not, do not know But have no doubt IN my
own mind that they do show this fact and unless they
destroyed, the records OF the be found there
Now, after the committee have reported these incis
they TO be eonroveried without any proof 10 The con
lrsry Or will the Senate adopt the facts as furnished
by the committee, and ac accordingly II they do, then
this within the sp OF the pension laws and
this old gentleman OF ninety years OF age is entitled 10
this little attention or the residue OF his days.
| The question being then taken by yeas and nays
upon ordering the bill be eDsrossed for the third read
ing, it WAS agreed to-yeas 80, nsys 3-as follows;
| YEAS-Messrs Adams, Aiehison, Borland Brodhesd, !,
Brooke, Buaer, cas Cathcau Charlton Clarke. DAVIS. De
saussurc, Dixon, Dodge Of Wisconsin, Dodge OF lows,
Downs, Fech Fish, Hsmlin James, Morton, Prs Rosk,
sebastian, ssward, Shields, Smith, Toucey, uPham,
Wade, Walker and Weler-82
| NAYS-Messfs Hale, Sumner, and Underwood--3.
BY unanimous consent, the bill was then read the
third time and passed
REsURvEY or THE PUBLIC LANDS IN CERTAIN CASES.
| Mr.. BROOKE. | move that the Senate postpone the
prior orders for the purpose OF taking up House bill No
1el. It's" An TO amend act entitled AN act for
the dsconnuance OF The office OF surveyor general in
the several disircts. the surveys therein
be completed Tor abolishng land Offices under certain
circumstances and for other purposes This bill pro
ydes for the resurvey in districts where the Office of
veyor general has been abolished In the State ol Mis-
sisspp and have no doubt in other States, there
lands which should be resurveyed This bill provides
for ths by giving the Commissioners OF the General Land
Ohce the power to auhozs any deputy surveyor TO act
IN place OF the surveyor general where that Office has
been abolished
The question being then taken the motion TO postpone
agreed to- and the bin taken up and read
The Senate then, committee OF the whole, pro.
ceeded to consider House bill No 2af being An TO
amend entitled An acl for the 6iscontnusnce Of
the Office OF surveyor general the several DISTRICTS
the surveys therein can be completed for abolish
ing land Offices under certain circumstances and Tor other
purposes"
The hrst question was upon agreeing TO the amend
menls reported by the Committee on Public Lands and
the question being then taken, they agreed To-
No further amendment being offered IN committee OF
the whole, the bill was reported TO the SensR as
amended
The question was upon concurring the amendments
made in committee OF the whole.
Mr.HALE | am rather fearful that there is no, n
quorum here and TO ascertain that TACT call for dvIs
ION upon this question
The question being then taken upon concurring with