New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1852-04-03


The New- York Recorder responds to
our objections to State endowments for
Baptist and Methodist Colleges as follows :
"TAs Tribune asks US to say, fairly and frankly
man Catholic or USiversaiist College, We will DO
80. II the ULiversaist denomination VIII endowa
college in part Of our State which needs one, and
raise one hundred and hfty thousand deliars ron
their own members 10 endow IT, and viii place IN IL
a faculty. OF able and jealous instructors, and or
ganize its internal government on principles as noe
raj to all other secs as that adopted by the baDtss
at Rochester without seeking other objects tnan the
advancement OF high Christian education, We would
say Let them have the bounty of the State on the
same priI that We ash It for our colleges
"If the Roman Catholics will put themselves on
the same footing with other secss to ward the State
we would give eDdo wmenss to them Our objection
TO eDdowing Catholic colleges Is, that they are es
sentslly theological 10 their general character and
not in trustees who are citizens Moreover. that
Gs ss sh and S. il to the
duty OF all civil government TO render obedience 10
the commands OF their Church, even 20 the exter-
mination BY ARE ard sword of all who do not obey
its msndat and accept its dogmas. II the Church
OF Rome will repeal its canon law, and formally re-
nouHce its claim to supreme power over ali earthly
Governments and ecclesiastic organizations ac-
knowledge the right of all men throughout the world
to worship God according TO the dictates OF their
own consciences, We would treat them just as 10
weud other sects. Wnsn sney put themselves i've IN
OF ne law, then we would put them on an equality
with others as recipients Of the States bounty.
We submit that this is clearly, though
not frankly, surrender of the case. II
Dc Catholics will thoroughly reaounce their
Catholicism, and conform ia all things to
Protestant ideas and principles, they, too,
may obtain money from the State Treasury
in aid of their College if not, aOt. That
is not giving share to Catholic College,
but only to one more Protestant College.
But taxes are exacted from Catholic and
Prote slant alike without conditions or OK
ceptons, aud this would certainly not work.
Nor do we wish money taken from the State
Treasury to support Catholic Colleges -
We object to being taxed fog any such pur-
pose. We stated case in order to shew
the improperly and wrong of taking money
from the Treasury to endow Colleges at all,
so far, at least, as they are under the con-
troll of any religious denomination. And
VIC SuDuut tifds 4 nc ltccOoST Has Pf"'Ou
our case.
Thatpaper cOntisues
"TAe Tribune says, II We are to have an Is.
tabrshed Church, or knot Of Churches, in fact If
rot in name, let US know it' We are astonished az
this iDsinuation. The Tribune knows that Bap,ists
have gone TO prison and shed their blood to make
good their testimony against the union OF Church
and State, and in behalf OF freedom Of conscience,
loI before these DE- crimes were ever thought Of BY
politicians and that they would suffer every meeting
houte of theirs in the State 10 rot before they would
ask accept the aid OF the state to repair them.
We ask aid of the State, not for ourselves, but as
trustees for the good of the public, pledging our
selves by Nhole past history, to il, not for
the advancement of any Indirect purposes, but for
the real end for which colleges are established"
No insinuatiop, Sir We meant to say
distinctly that the tendency of your logic is
toward an Established Religion. and that
tendency is only the more dangerous that
you do not see it. The Charch Of Engla
hslds her princely revenues " fog the good
of the public" This is not question to
be settled by protestations but by the calm
judgment of those who hear both sides and
are net interested with either. To them
we are willing to leave it.
'Mispnrsse Rssisser In eur former article.