The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-09-22

Mr.. UNDERWOOD. hope the senator will with.
draw me motion, TO allow me 10 make remark.
Mi. HALE | cannot withdraw il the Senate can
vote itdown II they choose
The motion 10 adjourn was not agreed TO.
Mr. UNDERWOOD. Mr. President, rise for the
purpose Of exposing fallacy which the senator from
New Hampshire had not lime TO expose.
Several SENATORS Oh, no.
MT UNDERWOOD. | must do il; have sat here
nntl my patience has been almost worn out in hearing
these allacies propagated without proper response TO
them wish 10 lay before the Senate now lew facts
bearing upon the subject. Il
The whole tonnage Of the United States according TO
the latest accounts, 3772.i29 tons, including reg
lsteTed" and enrolled" and q licensed Oh that tom
mage there were engaged in the whale fishery l6l 644
tons N the coastng trade S545iI tons IN The GOLDFISH
cry, 475 tons; aud in the mackerei fishery 50o39
ions have mol bad time 10 examine the amount OF tom
nAke engaged in the foreign trade but II you deduct
those which have mentioned II leaves The residue L.
sos asa Then when you deduct The tonnage prob
aey engaged y iofe,sa counties }9a WI, have very
what will be lett upon waters Tennessee has
mage Of 1857 tons Kentucky. IL. 939 Missouri a.
065. These interior States and these States have
only about SO 900 tons in all.
Mr.. GEfER. The tonnage on the Mississippi is
about ll2 600 tons.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD I do not calculate the tonnage
in that way tor that calculation, suppose include
The tonnage OF New Orleans My object to present
TO the country The spectacle which is exhibited here. We
are told TO get money TO improve our MYERS and harbors
from tonnage upon the western waters, to improve
10000 miles OF internal navigation Why you might
lake the whole value OF each steamboat IN taxation every
year, and you would not get the amount necessary 10
make these improvements! Can you get these millions
OF tons engaged in the foreign commerce and coasling
trade Of the country 10 come IN and furnish the funds to
make these impro under this system OF thngs
Mr. BORLAND. VIII my friend from Kentucky al
low to ask him what is the amour, OF tonnage upon
Mr. UNDERWOOD said had not made the cal.
culailon. r1
Mr.. DAVIS | think can give the gentleman the
figures from memory. Ihe steam tonnage The western
rivers and lakes is about 1000 tons; and there
about 900 900 IONS OF steam tonnage the coast The
whole amount of steam tonnage 10 about 100000 tons,
and is very nearly equally ded between the Allan
nc coast and the interior waters. do not know The
amount of the tonnage OF the sailing vessels upon the
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. 1t is not necessary to go into
any exact calculation, and have not had time to make
II. merely sent Tor the statistics showing the com
merce and navigation OF the country and presented a
few OF the Items for The purpose of presenting my idea
Every senator can make the calculation for himself II
have given you the tonnage in Tennessee and Kentucky
This proposition amounts 10 this II you take the whole
value OF steamboats, every year, would not furnish
money enough in the course OF the year 10 do these
works Then we are driven TO this: We must take the
steamboats, and vessels belonging to other States, and
them every time they touch al any port 10 Slate,
at any town along the banks of the rivers of State
Will the other States with whom obliged by this
Amendment to enter into agreements or arrangements in
order 10 do this consent that their superior tonnage shall
be taxed for the benefit OF Kentucky that way, when
them Why, the statement OF the fact shows the utter
impossby OF getting the States 10 consent 10 any such
hing Wili pennsylvana agree with hsniucky to have
when Pennsylvania would never draw dollar perhaps
from our vessels going into her ports! If gentlemen
will only put themselves the trouble of looking at the
facts think il will settle the matter at once
We have already had an example to-day OF what will
be the effect OF the system proposed by the amendment
Why, Immediately controversy arose between the rep.
Iese0tages Of two adjoining States TO the effect OF the
proposition upon their States How are the States ever
TO agree think 1t would not be very easy matter 10
get my State and The State OF my friend from Indiana TO
agree 10 regard 10 the Improvement OF the tails OF the
OHIO The statistics OF the country show that this is
system OF inequality system OF nexpediency, and
system under which there be no agreement have
many objections TO it and If prevails it will do away
with the system OF appropriations by the genea govern
ment do not want 10 give up something that prac-
tlcabe and enabe for that which have no PRACTICAL
and possible operation any way shape, unless be
10 reard us N this great object,
Mr. BUTLER. Il wish 10 ask the senator from Ken.
lucky he 10 have consdefed this subject whether
the inequalities he has indicated in reference to this
amendment do not equally apply 10 taking money out OF
the treasury and applying to partial and local improve
men,ss
Mr. UNDERWOOD. will answer the gentleman
WIN the utmost cheeriulness The whole dhculiy has
resulted from the be ginning in hishat we regard
selves separate communities IN States, and entertain
the idea OF division Of spos among the States, and at
tempt 10 carry out thai idea That idea IS totally fala
cous from beginning 10 end In reference to the great
constitutional powers oil this government we peo
pie; and the Improvement OF the harbor OF Charleston
belongs as much 10 the people OF Kentucky, as Amer.
cans, improvement in the State OF Kentucky Ii is
the unity OF our government ~ this respect-not in
other fespecis--ibat makes II perfectly national, and
makes IL beneficial alike TO every portion of the
country. The whole difficulty grows out OF the
idea that we are dividing spols among States, for
getting the great uaiy in the commercial power oil the
country, Inc power, in the posotce power, the
naval power, and all the great powers OF the country,
for general and national purposes We forget all that
and think dividing out the money, and each
Safe must have its share. Why, ii is more
OF that than If the different counties OF the different
States should say, ave cannot go for the Improvement
oil the Kentucky vef because county does hap
pen 10 touch II; cannot vote Tor the improvement oil
Green river because county does no, touch II = and
you may Just well get up war between dlieren
counties OF the States in reference to the appropriations
within the States for reads canals and say that each
couDtyas ught 10 divide out OF the treasury accord
ing 10 some rule, eher oil territory population, to
say, IN regard TO these great purposes OF the national
government nboded IN the constitution OF the United
States that each State has right 10 here and claim,
according TO rule OF population territory, d.
vide out OF the national treasury Sir it is merely feed
enues derived and that commerce extends over The
whole country, and that is the proper view take OF IT,
Taking that view, there is nothing like this division OF
the spos OF plumber from the treasury for the benefit of
sectlonallty
sir, did not want to be driven into these remarks
do not want 10 argue this matter now. have said from
the beginning that want to vote. | cannot
support the proposition brought forward 1 have
gwen the hgues show that it is utterly impraciicabe
unequal, and unjust; and that il will work but if IL
be made work, and If il shall be proved that will
work 10 deprive this government of patronage,
will 20 Tor IT, Show practically that II will work, ,
and will 60 for H. do not want any more patronage
given the general government shall be very glad 10
IL - III. q.