The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-02-15
vhs lnd,ans In new MEXICO.

INTERVIEW or GOV CALHOUN AND PARTY WITH
THE NAvAJoEs.
Correspondent at the Sc Louis Republican, writes
from Santa Fe Dscem brr 81 1851 foil ows-The ON
cal party including Colonel Sumner and this Governor,
18th, have returned TO Santa Fe So far learn,
and have pretty good Of iufor there we're
between one and tro hundred Eavpjoes the ground
How far thosc no this occasion ought
TO be treated In proper representation OF
the great Navsj family consisting Of from five to ten
thousand eouls extremely doubtful There really
small difficulty even here, OF getting at the truth.
have 20 far found who have had tue best
means of knowing the most contradictory as
to the numbers of the Nsvsioes Some estimates
low one thoussad warriors; Others ~ high as four
thousand Were the Ind ans who presented Ihem,svss
at Jemes the proper representatives Of these
four thousand Or were they a mere lodge two -
in other words handful Of the great tribe, only
sponsibie for themselves aud for others Of their
tribe The person relied upon for the necessary In
formation this head is not, far as learn,
we'll qusfsd to give IT IS seme others who might have
been selected. There is another person Mexican of
Santa Fr, named Caravs who fer Eve years when
young aprisoner among the Nsvaoe and hiss since for
the most Of forty been trading With them 30
far identifying these Indians goes that
his means of owedge superior those the
person TO whom this business was conaisd 1t pro-
baby would have been taken by Caravsai well the
other person; spd why it not dons cAnno. say
There was considerable talking with the Indians Col
dent was tired Of the which had been long
kept mp between the Navsoes and Mexcans and meant
to put stop to Il. For that purpose soldiers had
been rent into their country and more would
be sent if necessary. The President intended them
no harm, II they behaved wsil on the ooarary, he
them how to improve their lands AMI stoctto live
fertaby and grow roh. There two paths open %
them. One was very bad and bloody and would lead
to peace and to all that good 10. themselves and
their wives and children. The Naysioes, in answer
The Superintendent Of Indian Affairs. (Gov Oalhouu,)
addressed th,m-telliug them that the President was
willing to do good deal for them and asking them what
they willing to DO fer tho President Their answer
was for au1ndiAn very curious one II the movement
bad not been prompted before hand Two or three OF
the Indians came forward and shook hands with the
Governor, utteripg some vordsl in their language,
and making signs This interpreted to be declare
ton On their part that they willing to with him
as hostages. The Governor then told thsm substan-
italy what follows in reference to these hostages You
will go with and lodge in the houss tina. shell
ters and eat o. the food of which eat How
lar this leaves these hostages to go and when
they please, i question A good deal was said
about Indemnity and the Navsjoes promised to bring in
stolen property and captves 10 Santa Ee by the 26h Of
january They complained however that the Mexicans
bad robbed them. To some extent this Is true But
general reDark these robberies OF which the MAYA
los complain merely reprisss and reprsis which
had been stolen from them. The Governor then made
preparations to distribute presents among these msraud
ers who had been almost necessarily breaking the treaty
BY virtue Of whose spulaons these made
Against such an act Col Sumner protested that
was both unnecessary and mpolitic. l think that in
this opinion he il supported by almost every person in
the territory The conference was managed through
several interprterst words passing from English
spsni.h thence to Pueblo and thence to Nayajee H.
~ am tod Carsvsjsl whose native language is Span
ish has very COED knowledge Of Navaoe 1t is this
be regretted thst he not taken along How
these hostages actually to be treated remains to be
seen 1t supposed that the Superintendent desires to
take to Washington company OF Indians when he goes
tnas IL Is rumored he will in February-andt that these
Naveoes are INTENDED to give interest to his progress
You will possibly have the pleasure OF meeting Mr..
Aubry the great Plains courier, this letter
reaches you Hh travelling enterprise and endurance
exceed perhaps those Of all other living He has
now made three trips the Plains in year with
loaded wagons The mail last month with ill its ad-
vantages for moving speedily had to leave nina tenths
Of ts burden behind while Aubry came through with
heavy teams, and without the loss OF al snimal-
You have DO doubt seen map of his route,
which lies before 1t is PROFESSIONALLY far
superior in the important advantages of wood
water, grass ard easy travelling, the Cmarone
route. Mr. Aubry hiss no doubt it has, too, the ad-
vantage Of saving distance. 1t be undoubtedly
made in q shorter time-which is the thing. Mr..
Aubry has so far his way in after crossing the Ar
sspsas pursued the usual road down the bank OF the
river His intention is however he informed me, to
strike Of from the Arkansas in direction toward Pawnee
Fork In the expectation OF finding road that will s1it
Fork and believing that he find good route to
the pretent crossing of the Cottonwood Fork of the
Arkansas BY this route he expects to able to
further distance Bis calculation Is that the whole
journey he will make gain of fifty miles with upon the
whole much better road Mr. Aubry 1t is needless to
soy, has gained the highest admiration his dsrng
qualities and unequaed achievements the electric
traveller Further he deserves great credit for his
tring efforts to explore paths which shall 70 ,tste
the communication with New Mexico a nd add to the
comfort and safcty Of the traveller the desert route
which leads to it The mail 10 this place the States
has this month, the last failed to bring tbs
papers Can It not be contrvd to send at least
nie Of paper by the letter mail that shall
be kept ere in almost utter ignorance what
going on in the rest Of the world We have to day
further reports Of Apache dcpredatons and outraes at
the last date from Fort Fillmore Below Dona Anas they
had stolen mules Five persons are
reported as having been killed in addition to the former
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