The daily union., 1852-09-08

less than fair and reasonable price And it, through
accident or misake or IN any way you have bond by
which you throw the reasonable expenses OF printing for
this and the other House. upon private individual,
which has brought him and bis family into bankruptcy,
are you to exact the penalty upon that bond
Il understand the proposition which is made il is gen
era. II Is not confined 10 Ii extends to The
case OF Hamilton, and 10 all the public printing which
has been done under contract say it is uubecomng
the Congress o the United States TO impose the burden
OF The public printing upon any private individual who
ever he may be, or OF whatever party he may be. W.
are bound, as employees to pay those who engaged
to do necessary service for fair and just compen
salon. We are bound to pay just and remuneralng
prices Now, we have passed law, upon full inquiry
establishing reasonable OF prices for printing
and understand the proposition is, that you should set
tie tie existing contracts OF those who have done The
same terms must confess j strikes me as q fair anJ
reasonable proposition With regard 70 the suggesloa
OF the senator from Maryland, to the deficiency OF he
paper, the amendment provides for that BY requiring pay
ment 10 be made according to the actual cost OF the pa
per- and i any portion OF the printing was done upo"
Tor according 10 the actual cost.
regret that question Of this kind should become a
political question. II ought not to be So 1t is ques
on OF justice to individuals and il there is any class Of
men in the country who ought 10 be compensated il is
the wokngmen-n is the class OF men who are en-
gagged in this business, well another class OF men
whose claims have been presented here to-day; ! re-
peat, think the proposition now before the Senate is
just and reasonable, and what an honest and just man
would be ready 70 do in his own case.
Mr.. HALE. | rise to obtain some information. was
out OF the chamber when the amendment was read l
desire 10 ask if the account which the honorable senator
from Connecticut has just given OF II is corec Tor II
be- the proposition will commend itself to my Judgment
more favoraby than had supposed. understood HIM
to say that this is general proposon-that IS not
special app'yng to Mr. Richie alone. bq, includes Mr
Hamilton, and suppose Wendell u Van Benthuysen.
ask that the amendment may be read.
The amendment was accordingly read.
Mr.. HALE | see, then, that it is not The sena
tor from Connecticut is mistaken. 1t applies only 10 the
former
contractors Then, If there is anything in the argument
Of the SENATOR The amendment is obnoxious to the very
charge from which he endeavored 10 vlndlcate 1t and
that Is, that il is special and applying to individual
Mr. IOUCEf. 1t ought 10 be general | thought II
was.
Mr. HALE. Then, suppose, as the senator was mis-.
taken, he is in favor OF the proposition for he
demned il if it special but in favor of it on the
ground that il was general
only to do justice TO Mr. Richie, but TO be liberal TO him
have always desired TO be have said so TO his
friends in the Senate and out OF the Senate But, sir
do want to see before vote Tor this amendment re-
port of committee. or statement of Mr.. Richie,
somebody for him, by which may that be has lost
money, and how much he has lost II anything OF that
sort has been submitted to the Senate have not seen
it or beard Of it, If there be any such statement am
| ready TO act upon it. | am not governed by any con-
slderaton, except desire TO do justice to an OLD man
| Mr.. Richie is an old man. he is a gentleman who
stands very high with great party in this country, and
SO lar as have known anything OF him, have had no
TO find fault with him. He used to rub pretty
hard in the "Union" sometimes, It is true, but II was
nothing more than was fair in politics. l have no ami
mostly towards him. i desire 10 be just and liberal 90
hm but DESIRE a senator, that may have the da'a
before by which TO determine whether he lost any
thing, and what he lost will take Mr.. Riches won,
for H. or will take the statement OF any committee who
may investigate the matter. But | unwilling 10 vote
in he dark. 1t is said that this amendment will give
Mr.. Richie 100000 or 100000, more or less. say
again, am unwilling 10 do anything in the dark, but |
am willing. II statement is submitted by which TO aid
us in our action to be just and generous to him while
do not want 10 be unjust TO others.
| Mr.. TOUCEY | suppose that the language of the
amendment was broad enough to include the compeDsa
ton that was DUE whatever il might be, TO those who
have held contracts before thought would include
Mr.. Hamilton | think 1t ought TO do so. will vote for
any amendment any proposition that will place him
any other contractor upon The same ground because
hold that is the duty OF this government and OF Con-
gress to pay those who engaged IN its service fair
and remunerang prices; and il they have entered into
contract under msappr rehenson, or in any other
ner, aud do not obtain fair and remunerating prices,
will give them 10 them, and especially 10 those who
Notwithstanding the runous nature OF their contracts
have gone and mel our demands, so as not thereby
impede the public business That is the principle upon
which act and should not shrink from the appca
lion OF II TO any whatever.
Mr.. BORLAND. Iwill not repeat what said before
the considerations which actuated in the sugges
made to the Senate; but remarks have been made
which call for few words in explanation OF my PROPOSE
ton My provso provides further, that the amount TO
be paid for said printing and above the amount
which would be paid under the and al the OF
the contract for the same. shall exceed Some
senators have said that they could not act for want OF
data others have said that they wanted the calculation
in figures, upon which and the senator from Maine had
stated the amount whick would be paid to the printer
under the proviso of the senator from Illinois without
any limitation do not pretend TO be accurate TO dol
lar doAnot pretend to any precision Of calculation.
stated the result, however, OF very long and patient cal
cuIaion which believe 10 have been il is
in the power Of any in this city, printer or any
else TO make; and did siae and repeat, that the fig
here III any senator desires To look al them, they
will convince bin, beyond doubt, that If this printing
be paid for hslf the prices of 1sle the printer will
receive 200 than the contract would give him
The senator from Illinois called attention fur.
her limitation in his amendment TO the price, which
did not strike my at the moment IL was read. Ii
brings the amount to be paid within the prices allowed
by the printing bill which passed day or two but
against which voted admit that restricting il within
the provided for in that BILL il would be something
less but do not believe that the prces provided for in
II will be great deal less than fifty per cent off the
prices OF 1910, stated the other day. previous TO
giving my vote. An exact comparison cannot be made
between the prices OF 1919, any deduction from them,
and the bill which passed, because the paper is ex
cluded in the bill that passed the other day Ii is very
difficult matter TO separate the paper, which has hereto
fore, under the prices Of s9 been included in the press
work. folding, stitching, &c
My proposition s practical one, specific one, which
IL seems 10 me there difficulty in understanding, and
no necessity for data and calculations to make it n,e
vote upon as substantive proposition The proposed
object OF the proviso of that from Illinois is to
the contractor from loss, and allow him lair
pensation for his labor Will that senator or any one
else that he desres to pay than $4,000
that less apprehend have never heard 1t pre-
tended that the losses much II may be So but il
has never come to my ear IN way in which could