The daily union., 1852-04-09

Of population carried win be seen that the returns
ifom Two coantss-bae and raoamne-ars inoonapiste.
and hat from three Clara. Coalr Costa
and san Ffancisco--no returns have been sivcd
There are then, but these 6us counties from which re-
turns have not been made TO the census board There
turns OF the population which have been received at that
Office show aggregate Of ,os7 There il no dispute
between US about that That s official. and couses in
70 the first OF Juue. 1850 twas in April 1884, thai the
with the California Legislature upon This subject Now
have you got the returns from the last ses coantiss
Santa Clara Contra Costa. and San Francisco think
nothing has been said. and, added to the s9,597
make the IT. 900 and hundreds which We now
have Then there the two counties ana Tus-
lumnein which the difficulty arose as spoken q by the
agent who took the census Now, Us unAassand the
letter written BY the agent 10 the California Legislature.
ing Of the population and representation Of the Siste.
that the population has greatly increased Now whether
ss ioendsa the s2 % 50 per csa b appsa y ,he
condition al he lime Of taxing HE census Is not Il an
evident But il is evident that there have been no ale
ceved here With regard to the partial returns from this
county of Butte that is correcedin document five. and
all added together make this amount Of Il7.ooo and
some hundreds II was for the purpose Of putting my
self right that added the 80 to SO per cent the 09597
TO see whether the fraction would then be larger than
in the other two States could not make il so and
have had il sufficiently explained to deter
mine me TO vote for the amendment II could. 1would
with ple;asqars, 6;sar, but cannot
from Georgia mr. DAwsoNl TO the letter Of the agent
himself in relation the county OF Butte The gentleman
says they are complete. R4f N
MIR. DAWSON. I No, sir. say that they are changed
from 3574 10 4,7s6, and are said to be complete. did
not say cIMyy. thsy were So So
after suit had been commenced against him tor moi per-
forming his duty he says he has copy Of the returns
from Butte county, but declines 10 send them to the de-
parnent because they are not executed in accordance
with the law. But he says he will them to be
copied in accordance with the law. But they have not
been received yet.
Mr.. RUSK. | cannot see that The proposition to give
Louisiana another member and the proposition TO allow
California members al parallel, stand upon
the footing Nobody pretends to say but that there
has been an actual enumeration in Louisiana that actual
enumeration has been returned and s before the Senate
for their action and according 10 law Louisiana does not
get the number OF representatives that is now asked for
her, and it is not depving her OF what is her right 10
refuse i to her. Now, il | was to be guided alone BY
my feelings in this matter, should certainly vote for Civ
ing Louisiana this additional member But am bound
and guided by my sense of duty in this matter. The
cases, therefore, are not parallel.
How is with California Nobody petends that there
been an actual enumeration there upon which
depend. The constitution is imperative that we shall
must be the law WE'LL sir here the very agent that you
sent out TO make this enumeration says that he has not
done The agent OF the Census Bureau the secretary
Of State, and the who the census tell you that
they have not taken actual enumeration. How does
the case stand then am not disposed either to extend
ayors or do injustice to California. do not put this
question upon either of these grounds California wass
admitted here with certain privileges of which Was
to be IN the Other branch Of Congress BY two
Can you deprive her Of that Is it just TO do sos What
means have you to deprive her OF thati The consitu
ton points out the means that you have, which il the
right 10 apporlon representation according to actual
enumeration. Have we the actual enumeration can
mol see that we have, and therefore cannot vote to do
Mr.. SHIELDS. have been good deal struck by the
remarks Of the honorable senator from Texas, lMr.
RUsK.l did not listen 10 this debate in it's earliest
stages but, if understand the remarks of the honor
able senator Alright now, it does 10 10 be q
very plain case, There is not, in my humble opin-
and Dno1
alton before us OF the population in California, or, in
other words, there are not data that will enable
either 10 increase or diminish the representation of
that Stale. hold that you must have these data be-
fore you, before you can increase diminsh that rep
Tesentaon That is the ground that the senator from
Texas Mr.. RusKl has taken here. Now. can we com
mence 10 patch up this census. and patch il up s
attempted 10 be done here, TO guess at it. and make
appor'onment OF representation in accordance with that
Now, will take the State Of Massachusetts Sup
pose there had been no enumeration OF the population Of
that State al all. How is the State in that be
treated You authorized to increase her repre-
senation, Tor you have data for that purpose You
are not authorized 10 diminish her representation for
you have data for that either You must have data
OF enumeration before you, In my humble opinion, of
such character as 10 authorize you either TO increase d.
%a,sh 5 ner and you have not tia, data
II now is. How is il with California in this case She
entitled by the act OF admission 10 two members for
the present. In my opnion you cannot take one OF
hose two members away from her in consequence of
mere guess at her population without doing injustice
that state. cannot lncrease
cause you have no data 10 authorize your doing 40
Therefore must leave her If there had been no cen
Gus taken, and we knew nothing Of the population
there. tNT rnl1
That being the case, il TO me that the
condition OF California does not affect the condition
OF South Carolina in any way whatever California
stands upon its basis--upon it's own merits
South Carolina, the law now stands, is entitled
10 representative in consequence of having the
largest fraction of population the ratio. There
be doubt about that The condition OF California,
which irregular one, ought not to change in any
respect the rule with regard to South Carolina. That
consideration will govern my vote in this matter.
think therefore, that while there correct and per-
feet enumeration in this Justify changing the
representation OF California, should lei her remain as
she is--permt her occupy the status which YOU
gave her when she into the Union You cannot
authorize change except upon data, and that data
must be regular. correct and perfect your agents
can make before you change her representation
Then lei her retain her present representation and stand
she is until you have that data. Let Sonth Carolina
have the representative 10 which she is entitled as the
law now stands. tul
Farther than that cannot go. | cannot vote 10 give
additional representative to Louisiana, though would
be glad to do so II could in Justice think that the law
as Il now stands gives South Carolina clear tle with
out any change OF IT, to this representative for the ac
ton And ! think that you have returns from Cali
lorna upon which base any correct and saisac
tory action in regard to her You must permit California
TO remain she is and change her present condition
Mr. BELL. wish TO make single inquiry OF the
honorable senator from Texas Mr RusKl and the hon
or.h lMr SIUEIDa1 III thpv