The daily union., 1852-05-12

but understand my friend 10 say that in his opinion
the nth ship was necessary TO perform the service
Mr RUSk. appIehend il will be- = sLAt4
Mr. UNDERWOOD Well, upon that point have
shown already by The statement which | made that
and trip month. think, would be reasonable al.
lowanee, 4NkfEI NEK#
Mr. MILLER. win the senator allow me a moment
Mr. UNDERWOOD Certainly; want to understand
Mr.. MILLER, The senator forss,s ,ha, these ship.
remain al each point some eight or ten days .
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. Mr. President il is great mis-
fortune with me, in speaking in this Senate, 10 forget
everything, because do not have lime enough allowed
me 10 stale what want 10 get out l.aughierl will
come to the point suggested il the gentleman will give me
time. II has been suggested TO me that am striking
tender point, and am afraid am.
Now, say, from all the information that have OBJ
tanned from the boastng speeches that have been made
here that one vessel make trip per month. Well,
vessels being in the employ Of the twelve
months make twenty -foar-you get at the end OF twelve
months within two of the number OF trips provided for
by two OF these ships Now what becomes of the other
three vessels in the mean timer The gentleman an
swers that they breaking shafts, destroying wheels,
losing rigging plank or screw is loose, and all the
rest oil The time Is taken in repals and therefore we
must have three extra ships like three extra stages
always out OF order, in order TO perform these twenty
SIX trips Sir, there never was greater humbug, in my
humble judgment, propagaed to men capable OF exam
ming facts and looking matters Of business
tion. What these three additional ships TO do, when
according 10 the showing heTe two ships unless acc
II to that extra ship would, in all reason
be enough TO allow for these two additional trlps--two
ships being capable Of performing twenty trips in the
course OF year And would it not be better in OF
accidents happening TO allow little delay in the dev-
cry OF the mail think the lovers alluded TO by my
friend from New Hampshire MIR. HALEl could afford to
be delayed in their correspondence few days when so
much public money is at stake in this matter and
think, in the event Of little disorder in the ships little
afford 10 delay little while. If three ships could not
perform the service. a5ts 7ss Fg9t4eE ftL tsatG &
am willing TO 20 for three ships, made my esti-
mates the other day upon that number. II you employ
three ships you allow each OF them 2ooooJ per
nun. That makes 100000 per annum, and saves
S24s.O 900 Of what you are now abon, to allow. :,
Sir, the facts have never been given to US. You have
had this day the data for business calculation
in regard 10 the management OF these ships What we
are to do with the five sbps-how they are to be EN-
poyed whether they to be used in the service OF their
owners to lie in the port and do noihing-of all
this we know nothing. The amendment proposed here
s to limit the operation Of this business two years,
understand the senator from Michigan. Ii that view
could be accomplished it would remove some OF the OBJ
econs which have to this whole scheme from begin
ming to end. II would allow US time 70 get the facts,
tally and we could find out before the two years ex-
pire whether there that Kill and management that
required, to which alluded the other day in my re-
marks.
But, sir, adopt the amendment and 60 and provide
that these ships shall be kept in the public employ at
ss4s 900 until the expiration OF the contract which has
10 run ten years. am told, from the time went into ope
ra,ion-what time il went into operation do moi know,
but the contract was made in ls47--
M sMAR HNDkRWoob Es sss eight ys are sixty
four there will then be paid something upwards OF
eight millions out Of The treasury BY extending the
end Of that period according 10 ihs suggestion made BY
my friend from North Carolina. after paying this great
compensation, we are to shell out three millions. the
original OF the vessels and take them oil their hands
Mr.. BADGER. II my friend will be good enough TO
look before he makes statements OF that kind and under
stand little what the state OF the facts is. he will not
hng-nothing bearing the remotest resemblance to it,
proposed al the end OF the eight years. that The govern
"fa Mr. 'an,l GNpnRWoop 'iss 9a6ss SHIPS stand corrected
Mr.. BADGER. proposed TO have the government
take them. il Congress shall think proper under the
contract; and they ought TO have that power.
MIR. UNDERWOOD | ask for the reading OF the
amendment Of the senator from North Carolina.
The PRESIDENT. The senator has Withdrawn his
amendment; the question now is on the amendment OF
the senator from Texas.
Mr. UNDERWOOD stand corrected in regard 10
that amendment Is not pending which was offered by
the senator from North Carolina or course, am cor
rec,ed point OF time but understand that at the end
OF the time specified the government is TO take the ships
pay the cost OF building ihem and that understand, is
MIR. BADGER Will my friend allow me to correct
him again is not 10 take the ships at any time al the
original cost but TO take them appraised valuation
OF their actual value at the time they taken, il
IN MIR. .'t UNDERWOOD. Then am mistaken in their
AT the end Of the lime they will only pay instead OF three
millions, il they valued al two millions, that sum;
IL they valued at one million, that sum or il they
are valued al a thousand dollars only that sum-
Mr.. RUSK. The honorable senator is confused.
The PRESIDENT. The senator mus, not be inter-
MIR. RUsK. II he will turn TO Senate document No
so, page IL he will see the contract II is follows.
THAT in addition to carrying the mails. II the govern
should these vessels time for purpo
scs they take them under the contract"
The government have right 10 order them to be
brought into The service OF the United States by paying
whatever the board shall determine they are worth.
MIR. UNDERW GOD. That is what | understood from
the gentleman from North Carolina, and that is what
have Acknowledged. did labor under msapprehen-
sion supposed that at the end OF the time they
to be paid the original cost stand corrected. lunder.
be valued al al the time the government takes them But
that does not prevent the payment Of the eight millions Of
dollars in the mean hme-the SS4S,00o multiplied by
eight years yet 10 run. II does not prevent paving
something like 100000 for each OF the five ships annu-
ally, which would be million year. You save only
Sf52, 900 OF the million. ,
Mr. President my word for ii, the people that repre-
cent. away from the seaboad, will look al the conduct OF
this government in paying money for purposes OF this
Torrance OF services supported by speeches like those
that have been made here covering the whole world
boasng OF prospects, ahead, touching the American
heart and making il swell with the feeling OF exutaton
over triumph or, like my friend from Mchgan repre-.
sentng America in this beating her ancient rival
taking the trident OF Neptune out OF her hand, and whip
ping all her enemies both land and sea- II the whole
OF these things depended upon the OF the Collins
line of steamers We do not gain battles upon any con-
,IAV.l.A r.Il hat at