The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-01-28


10 violate the rules and If his example should be extern
svey followed, he admitted that there could be little order
in the proceedings OF the House. Yet his case was
peculiar one. He was aware that lac must step little
out OF order and he hoped that the same indulgence as
extended 10 Mr.. VESABLE 10 assault those with
whom he mr. NABERsl acted would be extended TO him
in replying 10 the assault II he was TO be called 10 or
der 10 his reply he desired 10 know II IN advance so hal
he might not commence the remarks he was anxious to
make.
Mr.. MEADE inierrupting MIR. NJ. said that il would
be better go into Committee of the Whole on the state
OF the Union, wherein latitude the most ample TO be de.
sired by any gentleman would be accorded for this debate
Had he been in the hall yesterday he would have called
Mr. VEEAHLE TO order, being satisfied that bis remarks
clearly out OF order in the House under the rules.
Mr.. STEPHENS. OF Georgia, thought that nothing
really out of order had been said yesterday m this dis
CUSTOM and held that Mr. NABERs might reply TO the re.
marks OF Mr. VrSABLE with the same latitude oil debate
that had been exercised by that gentleman.
Mr. NABERS here went on 10 say that the reasons OF
Mr.. VEEARLEs hostility against Donelson Armstrong
were such as would satisfy majority oil the House that
MIR ORR called Mr. NAHERs TO order for irrelsvancy.
The gentleman had proposed TO discuss the reason OF
Mr.. VS. hostility to Doneson Armstrong, which was
Mr. NABERS said that he was discussing the proposed
printing OF the census.
Mr. MEADE hold that MIR. NABrRs should give way
TO motion 60 into Committee of the Whole on the
state oil the Union wherein he could deliver his speech
he desired to make IT, If he disposed TO break up
the harmony OF the democratic party he was taking the
best course 10 effect that object.
Mr.. STANTON, of Tennessee, called Mr. MEADE to
order for irreleyancy.
Mr. STEPHENS. of Georgia, asked if il were neces-'
sary to give this printing 10 Donslson Armstrong TO
keep up the harmony Of the democratic party.
Mr.. MEADE (contnuig) said that the democratic
party generally agreed 10 the rights OF the Staes
and il would be well for the party TO stir the subject
until proper lime when il might arise legtima,ey
in the course Of congressional legislation.
Mr.. NABERS declared that those agreeing with him
had s,udlously avoided throwing iirebTands into the
party While he proposed strictly TO follow that policy
this case, he would not suffer himself and his friends TO
H.. In am
pie he felt it incumbent on him TO stand ready 10 defend
those who conducted the organ OF his political party.
II was evident that Mr. VENABLE expected on rising TO
be permitted to say just what he peased--denounclng
any one he might fit to denonnce; yeti his Mr. N's)
friends ventured defend themselves, they TO be
charged with introducing irebrands into the democratic
party
There were delicate questions growing out OF the con-
sideraon of this subject. He alluded with pain to the
bitterness in the South growing out OF the question which
Mr. VENABIE had introduced in connexion with this
joint resolution.
The contest in Mississippi moi the course OF
any man. or as to the way the compromise measures were
10 be received and answered after becoming laws, but as
TO these measures themselves.
Mr.. ORR called Mr.. N. to order. The remarks OF
Mr.. NApERs were irrelevant, as he (Mr % went on to
Mr. STUART, rising to point OF order. held that Mr..
ORR's point of order not debatabe.
The SPEAKER sustaining the point OF order made By
Mr.. Dan,
On motion by Mr. CARTIER, leave was granted to
Mr.. NABERs 10 proceed in order
fer the Joint resolution the Committee OF the Whole
the state OF the unon so that he might debate IL IN The
manner he proposed.
Mr. NABERS had no great desire to debate the sub
iect. His purpose was to put extngusher TO the
ireband which had been introduced into the hall. lie
desired only 10 speak 10 this subject for the vndcaon
Mr. HOUSTON moved 10 refer the joint resolution TO
the Committee Of the Whole the state OF the Union,
and called for the previous question on that motion
This call being sustained
MIR GORMAN claimed his right TO address the House
for an hour, having reported the joint resolution
Mr. JONES, OF Tennessee, rising 10 point oil order,
held that he (Mr. 60 was SO entitled in case The motion
TO refer failed
The SPEAKER sustained the point oil order made by
Mr. GORhIAN demanded the yeas and nays on the
motion to refer; which being ordered the said Joint reso
luton referred 10 the Committee of the Whole on
the stale OF the Union-yeas las, nays 40.
MIR. POLK offered resolution 10 close the debate on
the joint resolution from the Committee on Printing at
2 O'Clock, p. m on Thursday next.
subject considered in Committee oil the Whole on the
stale OF the Union resolution OF this knd-to close de-
baie--was not in order.
The SPEAKER overruled this point Of order
Mr.. ClINGMAN appealed and The rule having been
read for the information oil the House on the demand OF
Mr.. c., he urged that Speakers Cobb and Winthrop had
held that debate could be stopped until the subject had
been up in Committee Of the Whole.
The SPEAKER remarked that the general power OF
the House such authorize il TO pass such
ouion any subject at any time
Mr.. STEPHENS, OF Georgia, suggested the modlca-
ton oil Mr.. PoLks resolution, 10 have II bring the
House TO vote in hour after the subject should be
taken up in Committee Of the Whole the state OF the
Union
Mr. POLK having modified his resolution according
10 the suggestion of the gentleman from Georgia
Mr.. Cl.lNGMAN still urged his point Of order against
the Introduction of this resolution al this time.
The SPEAKER again oyerruled Mr. C's point OF
order
Mr.. CLINGMAN appealed.
Mt liBBhRD moved that the appeal be laid the
table; on which motion
MIR. HART called for the yeas and nays, which were
ordered when, the question being pat, the appeal was
not laid on the able-yeas TO- nays l07
So the appeal not being laid the table. the question
upon II required and being put by leers the decision
OF the Speaker was overrnled-ayes so, noes 81.
Mr. SKELETON moved to reconsider the vote by which
this joint resolution from the Committee Printing had
been referred the Committee OF the Whole on the
state Of the Union.
Mr.. 5. desired 10 obtain all the light on The sub
ec OF this proposed printing possible 10 be sned upon
IT, Yet he held that the work would be unnecessarily
delayed by the proposed reference, He advocate
Of rigid economy, and sincerely believed that rigid
joint resolution. IL the duty Of the House, in the
present condition OF the public printing. 10 change its
present system OF executing the work. lie was opposed
10 delaying acon IN this case, and held 1t 10 be the
duty oil Congress- and the counr,s interest," at that
The public printing should keep pace with the progress Of
business, and be done in better than heretofore
Mr.. FLORENCE wanted 10 know who had done il
printerl
Mr. SKEI TON believed all these contractors had done
i badly.
Mr.. FLORENCE thought that Mr. Hamilton's print
ing was the best he saw, being good any other
lone by contractors or by newspaper publishers.
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