The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-10-30

Mr. We6ster's Dsath-P0iitical Specisiati0ns -Mr
Winfhrop IN the State Department, &c.

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Mfr. Webster's Dsath-P0iiticqL Spccpiaii0ns Mr.
Winthrop IN the State Department, &c
The death Of Mr.. Webster continues to be the one
great subject of conversation and remark. Never
before was ever community so strongly moved by
the death of any man. a. least, not in the present
century Old men say that nothing like it has oc.
cured since the death of Washington, now almost
ffty-thre years since Most Of our public have
died at times when their departure from the world
was not Of sufficient importance to cause SO much ms
an additional ripple in the 'sea of trouble" that
political life ever presents Jackson Calhoun, Clay,
and John Quincy Adams in dying, had less effect on
the VERDI unitedly, than General Harrison or Gen.
eral Taylor, both Of whom would not have been
equal to the least of them intellectually. 1t is
somewhat different in Mr.. Webster's case. His pc.
sition, at the time of his death, so important
that that event must be striking occurrence in our
history. It is, therefore, from no diMespect to his
memory, that men talk in subdued tones Of the pro-
babe effect of Mr.. Webster's death on the Presi.
Dental election That event is too near at hand,
and is of too vast consequence, to be forgotten
by any one, grieved though all are al the
dispensation with which it has pleased Pro.
whence to visit US. Though pretty near all
political action has been suspended it does not fol-
low that thought and conversation are in the same
predicament.
IL is matter Of some doubt what course will be
pursued by the friends Of Mr.. Webster. The more
ardent of their number for supporting the cleo
toral ticket which they had put in nomination, pre-
csely the same as if Mr.. Webster were alive, which
would seem the wisest and most consistent course;
for surely, to 60 for General Scott, but for whose
impertnent intrusion into tho political field Mr. Web
ster would now have been alive and with fair pros
poets of being President, would be than act
of folly Others are for Withdrawing entirely from
the contest, and leaving matters to take care Of
themselves. The effect Of the adoption of this last
course would be to greatly increase the democratic
vote, for very many Webster men would support
Gen Pierce in the event Of their ticket being with
drawn. A great deal of interest is telt as to the
course of the Webster men Of New York "Will
they support Gen. Scott!' is question that's often
asked, but which no one can answer As not q few
think that upon the answer depends the fate of the
contest, you will see that it is of vast consequence
in their estimation.
The effect of Mr.. Webster's death on our local
politics is likely to be favorable to the wings The
chances for the defeat of that party in Suffolk coun
ty and the city of Boston would have been great,
had the regular wings been thrown into minority
there ut the Presidential election, would inevita-
bly, have been the case had Mr.. Webster lived
fortnight longer As it is it is hoped by the Scott
men that, Mt the very worst, the mass Of the Web
ser men will not vote at the national election and
SO leave them with positive maj ority here, which
is what not one OF their number expected to have
week ago The election Of the ''Boston battalion
Of Senators and Representatives it is expected will
give the wings control Of the Legislature, and of
the whole State government Still, things may not
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is well known that up to the very day on which he
was first supposed to be in danger, Mr.. Webster had
expressed himself 10 terms of decided hostility to
the party that must come into power here should
Mr. Clifford be elected Governors that he attributed to
their fierce and ravenous animosity that want
Of support in the Baltimore Convention, which,
in the opinion Of himself and his friends, alone
was to prevent his being next President. Mr..
Webster's friends well knew that the most deter
mined persecution was in store for them in case of
the election Of General Scott and Mr.. Clifford. All
exercising power from the grave that shall Prove
as Injurious to the wings any thing that could
have been done by tho living man. The Scott men,
to borrow nne old idea, may be made to feel the
weight Of his shadow.
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Men talk of Mr.. Webster's probable successor in
the State Department. What may be thought else
where, ! do not know; but here, Mr.. Winthrops
chances of boirg called to the vacant place are
thought TO be good. he came near being promoted
He had reason to believe that he was to be Mr.
Clayton's successor. ard it is understood that he
never forgave Mr. Webster for stepping between him
and the place. Each gentleman was said, at the
time, to have the same object in view, each
wishing to enter the State Department to
prevent his being mixed up with, or affected
by, the then nding defeat OF the wings in Ms
sachusetts Mr. Webster had the most to fear from
such defeat, rs his term of service was about to
expire, and no was by means certain of re-elec-
ton to the Senate, even if the wings should carry
the Legislature There is now another opportunity
afforded for the promotion of Mr.. Winthrop. Mr..
Fillmore is said TO be partial to him, and would,
by preference, have taken him in 1850, but was
OVERCOME. He has qualifications for the place,
that humiliating foreign policy which appears to
constitute Mr. Fimore's idea Of Amercansm. 1t
is true that Mr.. Winthrop had become Mr. Webster's
personal and political enemy, and, therefore, it
would seem like an insult to the great mans memory
to appoint him his successor; but then the Pres
dent has come out for Scott, and doubtless wishes
to conciliate that portion Of the wings who killed
Mr. Webster. What lucky thing il would BIO for
Mr. Winthrop if General Scott should come in to
the Presidency, and find him there in March.
The opponents of the Maine law in Middle sex no
minated ticket for Senator'S yesterday, taking
three from the wing and three from the bunker de-
mocratic ticket, and totally nsglecting the Goa
Htonists. This is an important movement. They
also nominated Mr. Clifford for Governor, which
will DO him no good There is strong section of
the wings who intensely favorable TO the Maine
law, and who will not have anything to DO with a
rum" candidate This movement will give Mr.
Mann FIVE thousand wbg votes, which Mr. Clifford
would have got if his friends of M;ddesex had let
him alone
There is to be second meeting OF the Webster
Executive Committee this evening, TO see if they
shall support their electoral ticket Thsy could not
agree last evening. Some for placing lr.
Choate's name where Mr.. Webster's has been
hitherto borne The determined portion Of tho
Webster party are bent upon having their great
iavoIite's power felt. IT would be grand tribute
to Mr.. Wobster's memory to have the Scott whig
party sacrificed TO it, by way of magnificent fune
raj games In this way the great statesman would
decide the contest and control the result, rs the
dead Douglas won pitched field, and the keys Of a
parted Duguesclin. ALGoMA.
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