The daily union., 1852-08-14

be In itself is course that ought 10 have been pur
sued originally, or it should not now be resorted TO-
Hudbras the Argument 10 OF his books, in which
great many strange things occur. tells US that
. Tn adventure OF ihe bear and hddle
Is sung, but breaks OFT in the middle"
| see no reason why should take that course and
apply il TO The debates OF the Senate.
Mr. MASON. Mr. President, have no desire in the
world to stop the debate where u stands on this question.
il the honorable senator from New York, who believe
has the ioo desires to be heard only meant 10 sug
gest him thai there had yet been reference and
that the motion pending was Tor a reference
Now, II he will indulge me one moment will take
leave TO say 10 the Senate, that when first brought the
subject to lis notice, in the remarks which made upon
the occasion OF introducing The original resolution call
ing Tor Information on this subject scrupuousiy re-
Trained from expressing any opinion whatever as 10 the
rights OF fishermen under the convention OF 1918
found, considered it. manifesto which had been Is
sued by The Secretary ot Stale. found that the Secre
lay oil State had construed the treaty. and that he had
admonlshed the fishermen that the American government
could not protect them IN the rights winch they asserted
tie amonished the fishermen that her Brilannc Majesty
had large fleet into those waels and he told them
has been recalled by the from Louisana) that
an oversight had been committed by The Amencan min
listers who formed The convention OF 1878 he told them
that had been made, and then he admonshed
them, in terms not TO be mistaken, that the country
could protect them in the rights they had heretofore
enjoyed. He said TO them very plainly. "the British feet
is in those waters and my advice 10 you 10 Keep out
OF the way" That the substance OF what he said
for his language was, that he thought II his dniy to
give this information, o the end that those concerned
in the American fisheries may perceive how the case al
present stands, and be upon thelr guard
In that state Of things felt it TO be my duty to call the
attention OF the Senate and OF The country to the posture
in which this question stood RETAINED scrlpuousiy
from expressing any opinion as TO the rights OF the sh-
under The treaty but said this: they had ENJOY.
ed certain rights by the acqulescence OF the British gov,
ernment for more than quarter OF a century, and
deemed 1t 10 be the duty OF the administration to preserve
those rights in statu quo. | went further. said that II
this British fleet was in those waters, and the President
admonlshed OF il, it was his duty to send fieet
there to lie by the side OF it, And went one step fur-
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fleet was withdrawn there should be no negotiation
whatever Butt SAID not one word as 10 the rights OF he
fishermen under the treaty That is matter TO be deter
mined between the two governments and the two gov
erments meet each other only through their executive de-
partments.
II would seem that if il is designed that any practical
end should be Obtained by the Senate by the call which
has been made for this information, the message should
go 10 the Committee on Foreign Relatons but as gentle
men have suggested that they want TO reply VIII mol
insist upon the reference, If they wish TO continue the de-
bate.
Mr. SEWARD The course OF the honorable senator
is such had right TO expect from him-manly and
frank shall not detan the Senate long. nor detan this
subject long from the committee when get hold oil It
will speak Tomorrow or any other day that may be
Several SENATORS. Say Monday Tomorrow is pri-
yate, bill day.
Mr.. SEWARD. will say Monday, if that be agree
able TO the Senate.
Mr. HUNTER hope Monday will not be fixed for
The consideration of this subject, for by Monday we
peci TO be able 10 report The civil and diplomatic aPoPr-
alton bill.
Mr. SEWARD Then say Tuesday. move 10 post
pone the further onderaon OF the subject till Iuesday
Mr. HUNTER ! think we would better say Saturday,
for shall have TO sit Saturdays hereafter and that
will be very convenient day,
Mr. ADAMS | wish TO ask Tor an executive session
as we get through with THIS SUBJECT and there
fore 10 postpone without fixing any day. so as 10
let the Senate hereafter be governed BY circumstances
The PRESIpING OFFICER, (Mr. Norris in The
chair) The question is on the motion OF the senator
from New York 10 postpone the further consideration OF
the su blect until Tuesday next.
Mi FRATT Ihope the question will be taken on tue
motion TO refer the message TO the Committee on Foreign
Relations Senators say that they want 10 reply 10 what
has been said. My honorable Trend from Georga Mr
DAwsonl says that he wants TO deef'd this almnlsra-
uon; and the honorable senator from New York says
that he nust be heard Defend the administration IRON
whai From the charge which is alleged 10 have been
made by the honorable senator from louisiana OF want
OF American feeling in the present executive department
of the government.
Mr.. SoULE Does the gentleman TO say that
said any such thing
Mr. PRATT. No, sri | say that ii has been anbu.
Mr. SoULE Does the senator endorse that charge
which has been attributed 10 me'
Mr.. PRATT. wish the senator to understand that
do not be charged any such thing but It has been
charged upon him, though not by me.
Mr. SOULE gives me pleasure 10 see that the sen.
ator from Maryland understands me, for never chang
any with being wanting in American feeling. II
would suit my habit of discussing a subject, that
course OF proprety which have pursued and ex-
pect 10 pursue toward those with whom may be as
Sociaed
Mr. PRATT Mr.. President who has charged the
administration Senators say they defend the ad.
minstraton From what From the charge which has
been made against II OF the want OF American feeling
Not by the senator from Lousianal did not understand
him 10 make any such charge Who then has made the
charger The senator from Michigan says he has not
SAID word reference TO the course OF the admins
raton on this subject yet gentlemen say that they wish
to aelend the administration IRON the charges which have
been made against IT, The object OF the defence IS that
and that alone The administration needs no defence
either IRON honorable friend IRON Georgia, or from
the from New York. wish to refer the message
the Committee Foreign Relations and my life upon
H. before that committee shall have reported, the course
ot this administration will be vindcaied the eyes o
against II. want the papers t1 90 10 the committee
but before the committee shall have time report the
question will be settled to the satisfaction believe, o
the Senate and of the American people, and in
nance with the honor OF the country.
cannot that at this late period OF the session. this
question ought to be postponed from day to day thai
senators may make prepared speeches and oraons upon
those speeches and oraons have beneficial effect
therefore ask that the question the reference Of the
message 10 the Committee Foreign Relations may be
submitted to the Senate. | want to record my vote in
favor of that reference do not want TO occspy the
time in discussion. We ought to be devoiing our time
the passage OF necessary for the sup
port of government and II Is useless consumption OF
time to discuss abstract question which has been
already sufficiently discussed. therefore ask the yeas
and nays upon the motion before the Senate refer M
message and documents TO the Committee on Foreign
Relations.
The PRESIDING OFFICER, (Mr NoRRIs) The
question is on the motion OF the senator from New York
10 postpone the further consideration OF the motion to
refer 10 Tuesday next
Mr. nlITIER That will hp uniair ia many other.