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Mr.. BoRLAsD called attention TO the
iact the Senator yesr had been zssous al
vocs,e OF blu granting lsods for this very wotk.
Mr.. FELCH addressed the Senate in ia
vor Of he bin he would prefer the NOISY sporo2d.
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Mr.. WALKER. by way of accounting for
the sudden change of sentiments by the Senator from
Connsctcut read portions Of procsmstisn signed By
Thar senaior ana appearing IN the pubic pspsrs ia
which that Senator, With otisrs declared thst having
been always firm Democrats and II .publIcsps rhey
for several reasons therein named, would not vote FOR
General Pierce but would support General Scott
Tnou IN bad not been generally known that the Sena.
tor always Democrat the fact could not now be
questioned and the Senator had suddenly sed
his politics snd gone 10 the Wings perhsps his
change on this bill was not surprising. Laughter
Mr.. BADGER said the paper read by the
Senator was all hoax The Senator ought not 10 have
been so hard upon the Senator from Connecticut for
changes In politics 8 thing not unknown to the
Democratic party. II was nothing TO what bad taken
place in Baltimore recently at the Democratic Conven-
ton. In this city wss sen turning promptly exesus-
ed yet he veLtared say that turner could not hold
candle 10 some Of those who 6sured 10 Baltimore Be-
fore that Convention distinguished Senators from Mich
igsn Illinois and even Wisconsin, occupied prominent
positions candidates. No out of New Hampshire
thought OF Gen. Pierce
The ballotnes continued for long time, when the
Convention turned aside all their Senator'S and nomi.
mated Pierce The friends OF these gentlemen all
turned over 10 the support OF they never heard
Of before The Senstor from Illinois 20 suddenly
turned that be autographed to the Convention oongrat
ulaipg the Democracy that he had not been
nominated and Pierce had Laughter The
Senator from Michigan did not go quite fast
Laughter He offered no congratulations that be hsd
been defeated bur said thar the nomination good
one and sent il, not by mail, but by telegraph.
These instances Of turning were remarkable as that
attributed 10 the Senator from Connecticut, but with
the difference that these sudden andinstsntaneous
while the Senator's we're after confederation and debe
ration.
Mr. DOUGLAS said the Senator from
Connecticut fortunate In having the Senator from
North Carolina to reply for bim instead OF doing 90
himself 1t this letter, bearing the Senator'S signature
was hoax, be wished the Senator 10 declare II to be
such He wished the Senator also to say whether that
letter was not rsnked and sent oil by those very per
sons whose names were attached to H.
Mr.. SMITH occupy my seat here,
for the purpose of ding the proper business of
egislaoa, and when any Senator far forgets what
Is due TO the Senate 10 bring In here the base black
guardism of the newspapers, will always tres, 1t with
silent contempt.
Mr.. WALKER said he admitted that he
might have violated the rules by readlug circular
signed by the Senator, and briefly RESPONDED 70 the
Senator'S remark, In which Ii ackno wledged that
the circular WA piece OF base blackeuardism.
Mr.. DOUGLAS SAID he had reason now
to believe This circular not altogether hoax. he
had copies OF returned to this city with envel
opes bearing the franks of those whose names were
printed signers to H. One OF these was shown 10
member of the House, whose attached to 1t,
and he acknowledged that he had ranked It, There
evidence then that this was sent out as genuine
document to convey the impression that these were
Democratic members who repudisted their nomination
as Wing me mbers had He would leave the morality
of the matter 10 others to determine He would leave
the people to judge of the backRuarjism of reading
that circular here, or OF sending 10 forth as genuine
document
Mr.. Jo,Es (Tenn.) regretted that such
Importance bad been given to this matter. He not
here when II appeared. The name Of one of his col
leagues. IN the oher House was attached to II. Wnen
he returned to the city he IT, thought strange aud
asked HE colleaee what il meant He told that 1t
was all hoax. No one supposed was anything but
hoax, got up by some Dlschievous body Did anybody
suppose that Willie p Mapgum signed tast paper
ached TO Il, would endeavor to make any believe
that they had been Democratic But now light had
flashed upon them and they would vote for Scott They
could attempt such imposition The papers of this
city had pronounced the thing hoax.
Mr.. DOUGLAS thought that when the
Senator from North Carolina called II hoax, and whea
1t shown that the paper had been circulated under
the franks Of those whose placed to IT, that
IL was but proper to ask the Senator from Connecticut
whose name TO It, whether he had signed It,
whether II was sent out as genuine document.
That Senator refused to say Il was hoax. He would
like to know also, OF the Senator from Connecticut,
something as to these huge boxes OF Wing documents
received daily from New York, and to fold which
pied all the time of the whole force in the Senate
Room.
Mr.. WALKER asked if the Senator from
Tennessee could say his colleague had never signed the
pspeIl
Mr.. JONES said his colleague told him
the thing hoax. His colleague would answer the
5enstor II he would apply to htn.
MIR. WARKER said he thought the SEN
ator might have been able to say whether his colleague
hsd signed II or not One of those whose names were
10 IT, was the Senate but refused 10 deny that he sgu
al He ne oil d fO KIM " h0 Of tba ma
pers were sent to North Carolina
Mr.. JONES said he could not answer.
He knew nothing of It. There were however. no
more Wing documents folded In the Senate folding.
room than Democratic No Wing senator ranked
more documents than the Senator from Illinois He
would II asked, frank this hoax 10 any sensible man,
because il could deceive no person.
Mr.. HALE moved 10 amend the bill by
adding to 1t the Homestead bill He supported the
gettir that bill through.
Mr. SMITH opposed attaching House
bills to Senate bills He was for acting on House bills
themselves
Mr.. CAss said he would support the
Homestead bill, but not an amendment. to this bill.
Mr.. GwINN and others opposed the
amendments being attached to this bill.
Mr.. HALE said that at the session of
1919 Mr. Walkers amendment for the civil expenses Of
the Territories was attached TO private bill.
Mr.. CAss said he was not here then.
MIR. HALE said that he knew the Sena-
tor had resigned
Mr.. CAss said that Mr.. Douglas would
assume that responsibility for him.
Mr.. HALE said he had nothing to gain
by attaching any responsibility to either OF them though
he might have had II certain Baltimore Convention
had acted differently He had been asked If he would
follow the Senator's example and resign, and had
answered that he would consult the Senator from
Michigan, as to the expedency of so doing lie de-
sired to know, IT, by so doing, bis chances would be
benefited any Laughter.
Mr.. CAss-No, no. think not.
MIR. HALE said that AS there were only
two weeks OF the session between nov and the election
ne would not resign, bat remain and face the music.
He complime nted Csss for bis support OF the Home
stead bill, and then withdrew bis amendment
Mr.. UNDERWOOD moved to amend the
bill by adding II the House bill distributing fifty mil
lions Of Of land among the several States. This