The daily union., 1852-09-17

Fslch Gwn. Hunter. King, Mason Msriwether. Norris
Prsu, Rast. Toucey and Wsiker-2i
csa coops paDs s, po~ns sh Too Ss,s
Hale. Hsmln, Houston. Jones q Iowa, Msngum, Mier
ton, sumner. Underwood. Upham Wade, and wsllsl-sl
So the motion not greed to-
The question then REQUIRED on the motion OF MI
Rvsx 70 postpone the further consideration OF The Dill
Mr. UNDERWOOD / gave an intmaton that in
tended 10 amendment to this bill Ibe gentle
man from Illinois seems q chaIss ho'e o wno h,.aIe h
and load II down with amendments Wish 10 say 10
that gentleman aud TO all of the members OF the Senate.
that heartily approve OF this bill, which generally bears
the name OF one of the most esmable females OF our
country, and shall vote for most cheeruly But II Is
nothing more than an appropriation OF the public lands
objects beneficial to the American people and while
you appTopTaiing lands for objects OF that Sort how
charitable they may be, you have much
right 10 appropriate them for the benefit OF citizens who
in all time liter your asylums shall be erected, will have
support the inmates Of those asyums say you have
much right 10 appropriate the lands for the benefit oil
the people who through after ages to support this
fortunate class, you have TO appropriate directly for
the erection OF the houses.
Sir. il 10 very curious argument which senator's
making here You can give lands for the benefit Of the
insane and yet you cannot appropriate lands for the ben
eft Of the who support the insane through all
time 10 come strange charity this as il the States
get few acres Of land help build houses when the
people Of the States for after all lands gone
will have support all these objects OF charity. IRON one
Il The Be- PRESiDiNG OFFICER, (Mr. Nosar. in the
chAir) The Chair very unwilling 10 interfere with the
SENATOR but be must remind him that debate upon the
merits OF the bill is not in order upon motion 10 post
MI. UNDERWOOD l had supposed that the merits
q hs question were directly point, % snow nai ,ne
an argument be made the subject, unless It en-
hraced the merits 70 show that you ought to act mme,
dately instead OF postpOning it. want TO show the Inn
nnrtance nf acting bill now DELAYING
il until tomorrow. What is the argument OF the gen.
tleman from illinois worth In my own State we have
credit for the erection Of Of them know that the
land will be beneficial to us, and will help US to carry
these asylums, but know, further that when these
Of these lands for the benefit Of internal improvements.
generations to come would be enriched BY them, and be
better enabled to euppothe insane existing then wish
10 show what ideas gentlemen entertain, and TO bring
them to the consideration OF the country. Some insist
that you have the power to gve through mere charity
ands ios ne supper. q the ou, INA. yo9
improvements which are to benefit the sane Tor ages TO
come.
ton in reason. or in the charities Of the human heart
This bill seems 10 find universal support upon momen-
tary charity. upon excitement of sympathy for those
who are suffering under the misfortune of the deprva-
on OF intellect Now, policy, the policy OF the gen.
teman from California, and others who wish to amend
this bas tits portion Of the land syslem-is 10 pro
We are not limited by that monentary sympathy which
acts upon the spur OF the OCCASION TO make mere tenn
porary arrangement but. sir charities extend, and
sympahies extend for the insane and for the
also not merely for day or year, bnt through all
coming ages Ii is for these that wish the bill
wRIIEe sad m voted 10 take hi.
bill, with the sincere hope that might be able TO pass
it. have voted against laying i on the table, annci-
amendments But see that there no hope whatever
for the passage OF the bill at this session. Ii
which was devoted. Il was bill which commended
But see i Is utterly impossible 10 make any progress
with il At this therefore driven to the
sity Of moving that the bill with The amendments lie on
Mr. BELL submit that the motion is not in order
A.. ELLERs believe that a motion to lay on the
tah takes precsdsnee Of motion to postpone The
havs moved that the bill lie on The table.
Tie PRESIDING OFFICER. (Mr. EoRRs) The
sena-o! from California Mr GwS moved to lay The bill
upon the table, and that motion rejected Since thai
time there has been business done and therefore the
Ch decides that the motion OF the other senator from
Mr. WELLER There has been action OF the Senate
since that motion was made a#4
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Not thai the Chair is
Mr. WELLER. motion to postpone has been enter
tanned, and that apprehend is action.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The motion TO postpone
made before the first motion 10 lie the table
Mr.. BADGER wish 10 make suggestion the
point of order. would suggest the Chair, that al
slough there may have been no motion intervening
~
has the second motion is in order; otherwise il
the Senate refuse 10 order bill to lie the table
they might 60 and discuss it for six, eight or ten
hours and could not then order IT to lie the table
MT. WELLER. think there has been action since
the former motion 10 lie the table disposed OF
The subject has been considered and debated upon
ton to postpone, and therefore think il is order
10 move that the bill lie the table Ul tsl..#
The PRESIDING OFFICER The Chair is OF diff
ferent OPINION $3.50 sEl tftf
Mr. WELLER. My object is TO get rid Of debate and
therefore constrained TO appeal from the decision of
the Char. f,fs6t
The PRESIDING OFFICER The Chair has decided
that the motion of the from California is not in
order, nasmuch there has been according the view
o the Chair, business intervening since the former
lion TO lie the table rejected The question is
"Shal the decision Of the Char stand the judgment
of the Senate ~ ttu gt etaI.a a8
The question being taken, the decision of the Chair
overruled s .>&faf la}s
The question then recurred on the motion of Nh WEI.
LER, that the bill with the amendments lie on the table
Mr.. SEWARD asked for the yeas and nays; and they
were ordered; and being taken, resatedyeas l5 nays
26--as follow w:e s'
sure. Dodge Of owa, Dooga,. Downs. Houston Hunter,
King, Meriwetbcr, Toncey, Walker, and Weler-l5
NAYS-Messrs Badger Bell, Brooke, Chase, Clarke.
Cooper, Davis, Dawson Foot Geyer, Hale, Hsmlu James
Jones OF Iowa, Mallory Mangun, Norton Norris Peafce,
Seward, Shields, SPfuance, Sumner Underwood, Uphum,
and Wade-26. M
So the motion was not agreed 10.
Mr.. BORLAND. i have an amendment 10 offer I
submitted informally time since, and il was then
ordered 10 le The table. My intention was TO offer il
substitute for the original bill but now offer il as
A.. 81.