The daily union., 1852-08-13

that case, however, will not arise But here is case
where you are giving 10 men certain amount OF money
and you do not forewarn them OF the place where they
are 10 come, and The time when they are to come aud
receive IT, II these claims just ask in all Justice
there any TO call them stale claims, when YOU
have never notified the individuals when and where they
were TO 60 10 receive the money! II of the OBJ
econs made against Cagula that he posted his laws so
high up that nobody could read them. But this is worse
You put laws IN your statute books but you do not give
the persons whom they most concern a chance to read
them. An agent sticks them high up on some cross
roads, and when these people foewarned Tor the first
me. by being refused their claims. you tell them their
CLAIMS are stale Now, hope my friend from North
Carolina MIR. BADoER] will for once 60 with me in
TINS matter, and not sustain the senator from Virginia,
Mr.. HUNTER know it is the business OF the senator
from virginia 70 look closely into these claims and he
does u faithfully and truly; but this is extraordinary
vigilance which the senator exercises upon this small
clam submit to senators, they believe this claim
to be llstIf no one can gainsay what has been main
tslned think, upon proper authority, that proper Motif
cation was not given TO these ndanshat they should
mol DC thrust aside from the treasury OF this
IN consequence 81 The action Of the government itself
MI LASS. Mr. President. one word. The senator
from Georgia Mr. CHARLToNl will allow TO say that
think he misapprehends one thing do not believe
there was ever payment made to any Indian tribe that
was not previously made known to the tribe generally
but what every Individual man. woman, and child knew
it, II goes like wild6re-like the fiery cross in the
Scotch law, from one to the other. There continued
and 1t is utterly impossible, from my
knowledge OF the Indians, 10 keep such facts from them
They all know it almost as the is comnu-
Mr.. SEBASTIAN desire 10 reply to a suggestion
made by the senator from Michigan, tMr CAss] Every
word that falls from him in connexion with an appropra
ion Tor Indians is OF course received with consideration
here, ahd IS entitled to more than ordinary respect But
when that senator says that il was impossible that ali
should not have received notice of this payment he will
allow me 10 state to him that here an investigation
spread over the territory OF four States, and embracing
lew hundred Indians many OF them forty miles apart In
the first place. the agent went forth for the purpose of
certaning the true Indians and afterwards another fol-
okot tuifh fha far sha
paying them; and the declaration which he has made,
founded upon his know ledge Of the Indian character
true in reference TO the Indians when they mustered
around the yabe and there this very grievance
that those Indians complained Of Their had not
been placed upon the roll Of this agent whose duty
TO Identity them and place their names the roll They
were all there, true TO their nncts, and illustrating the
truth OF what the senator says. Bot when the agent
went round and gave his legal publication of this noce
IN the country gazette, il to be wondered at that it
escaped the notice of the ignorant Indians located in the
gorges Of the North Carolina mountains, or perhaps in
that famous place whose has become immortal, to
which II is not necessary to make more than bare allu
sion
But there is another feature in this case which aston
ishes more completely than anything have ever met
with IN the deliberations OF the Senate Mr. President the
duties OF the Committee on Indian Affairs are al best but
a thankess task and in the investigation which they
make, they do it independent Of those auspices, those
and those soft influences which often
pervade this Senate, and which, accompanied by
guments, too often irresistible, the adoption OF
other measures enforced by favorable considera.
TONS These are dependent people, without political
power OF patronage, who come here always suppli-
ants upon the generosity OF the government; and when
we give patient investigation to claim, and report it
as worthy of the favorable action OF Congress- is the
habit OF some to ponnce down upon il with that kind OF
opposition which seems 10 argue that everything con-
neced with Indian affairs in necessarily in It's in
cip,ency and corrupt in its history throughout.
But that is not the only circumstance that surprises
me. am surprised that when the disbursement OF this
small amount OF money would be made in the State OF
North Carolina, the senator from North Carolina Mr.
bADoERl has eynced stern kind of justice in refusing
to allow this little favor IL is really specimen OF
virtue IN this body III gentleman gets up
here and moves TO appropriate something 10 be dsbursed
IN the State OF Arkansas would take under most ia
voraoe consideration, and require arguments OF the
sternest character 10 be induced TO make opposition
H. But wbeo case so this happens, and
aor IRON the State where the disbursement is 10 be made
Is found condemnlng the justice OF the claim in
duced to believe that myself be fallbe that there
is something wrong in the case, and that it comes TO
IN kind OF questionable shape. Hence | am disposed
TO equaze an occasion this by something that
is equally rare, and withdraw the amendment
Mr BADGER. Oh, no.
Mr. SEBASTIAN. Were ii not proposition coming
from the committee, over whose decision my individual
voice has no control, would withdraw il in order that
my course might be sgnalzed by something
that which distinguishes the action OF the senator from
North Carolina My only course, however. is to sub.
init the case. II is really too small matter 10 engage
the consideration OF this body so long time.
Mr. BADGER | am extremely sorry that my friend
from Arkansas Mr. SrBAsrIAsl has made the remarks
n
trait IN his character OF the existence OF which had
knowledge before-to wit: that when appropriation
10 be made he inquiries not primarily into the Justice OF
the demand but into the sections OF country in which The
money is to be expended. Now, sir, never trouble my
self about where the money is TO be spent My only
anxiety Is 10 ascertain whether II is honestly and Justly
due, and whether under the circumstances the govern
ment ought TO pay 1t and would cheerully vote
pay sum OF money TO be expended among my friends in
Arkansas as would oil money 10 be expended
among my friends in North Carolina But until my
friend mentioned that this appropriation OF money
TO be spent in North Carolina knew where il TO
be spent Now il is matter entirely explained TO me.
Perhaps the idea had struck 10 The beginning that il
might be money to be spent for the Cherokecs in North
Carolina, might have conenied myself by giving silent
vote against the proposition. Bu, very glad did
not know IT, because II gives me opportunity OF com
mng myself publicly against wrongful application OF
the public money TO any quarter
Now, my friend says that this Indian Committee has
very hard dry, and lhankless office to discharge They
have 10 examine which bring them under the
soft influences which he 10 imagine govern action
and extend their influence and control over the whole
Senate but from whatever influences they come, ap-
peal 10 HIM and 10 the whole experience OF this body il
they have not been in the habit OF exercising
trolling influence the action OF this Senatel have
mee. have been IN the habit OF voting for what they
as proper TO be appropriated And my friend
will permit 10 remind him that one OF the easiest and
most effecual means by which the influence and control
OF that or OF any other committee OF this body The
judgment OF this body may be ultimately lost is to press
that will no, bear the OF moments examination.
What is this case And shall be little jealous OF ihe
Indian Committee hereafter. We appropriated, Mr.
President, and remember II well. large SUN OF money
for the purpose of dschagng the toaliy OF this Indian
claim We put into the bill that this was the last aP'
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