The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-03-25
The Alleged Cuban Expedition.
United States District Court.
Before Hon Judge Judson.

some money when he was sent up to him South Am
boy each man got dollar and four shilngs; 1t was
equally divided among the men, We were all consderedas
pryatcs in consequence Of the breaking up Of the expe
dton Mr.. Van Buren, objected to the latter part OF
the answer and the court excludedit There were from
forty to fifty Of us at South Amboy went to Pha
dephia, and others went back to New York Q.-When
did you irrt speak to Wiederold about testfying A.
do not know exactly the date GLOW long before
Wiederhod was at the District Attorneys office did you
speak to him first about ii A.-Abont a fortnight i
had not then been to Washington; did not go to Wash
ngton before Wederhold ut the District Attorneys
Office. QWhen did you first offer Wiederhold $3.50 for
his letter Al do not rccolect the date it was within
the fortnight had first spoken 10 him Q.-IIave you
stated that introduced Wiederhold to the District
Attorney and Mr. Hoffman ? Ayes; had taken VIE
derhold to the District Attorneys house first; intro
duccd him to Mr. Hall there's he not offered at that
time in Mr. Halls presence $3.50; Mr. Hall told him he
should come to the Office do not know that Mr. Hall
knew that offered Wisdcrhod $3.50 for that letter O.
when told Wiederhod or Mr. Hall that had done so;
first tool. the rink and offered it myself Q-Dd Mr.
Hall confirm the promise at that time A-Mr. Hall
gave him Wiederho certificates at the time but don't
know what they Mr. Hoffman was not at Mr. Halls
house Q-Who was present at the interview at Mr.
llalls house A-rhe District Attorney, myself and
Wiederhod; that or two days before
the interview at the Office far as ecoect it was
to have Mr. Hai satisfy him that he would be PAID A.
No; took him there because he afraid Of being
rested; that was all took him there for Q-Was the
letter spoken Of at Mr. Halls house? Ayes; Mr.. VIE
derhod gave his word officer that all was true do
not recoect that Wiederhold said there that he would
not give 1t up without the $3.50; Wederhod complained
about his condition; he said he badly off, the Dis
trct Attorney said No matter, you must call at my
ofce;, to he (W) said he would get the back pay;
but whether he said anything to the District Attorney
can't recolect the District Attorney looked at the paper
which had TRANSLATED and said, It's all well; call at
my ofce.n Q-What was the paper you had translated!
Alt was no translation; Wederhold had dictated TO
me the contents Of the letter he had and afterwards
which MIR. Hall looked at when he said, It's all well
Q.Was Wedcrhold to bring the original letter to Mr.
Halls house? Al believe had told him So Odd
he bring it? Al did not it; he might have had it
in his pocket Q.-Did Mr. Hall give him half an hour
to go and get the letter? Al believe so; do
member where Mr. Hall to wait for HIM wiederhold
left and left with bin; do not recolect where he
went do not recollect how long said with him only
remember that waited for Wiederhold he went away
when he did not come back went home too believe
Wiedcrhold went to get the letter recoect that
IL the afternoon took him to the District At
torneys Office; have translated to Wiederhold paper
which the District Attorney had written do not recol
lcct If it recognxance to attend from term to term
recolcct having translated what he had said to the
District Attorney and afterwards bail bond or some
thing like certificate.
Dir. Van Buren, asked for the production of the bail
bond
The District Attorney said he had it. he would
Witnees-I do not know that would know it if
it do not know il it ives dated in April do not know
If it was dated back. Paper produced do not know
if date as this can't resolect if it was
dated back in April or May didn't look to see if it was
at sn know ss
it more than once QWere You paid $40 at that time
by Mr.. Hall? A.-No; was not paid $50 at that time
about that time; have received from Mr.. Hall
account Of my witness fees $780, not certain that it
the day was there with Wiederhold; do not know
if Wiedsrhold was with me when got it. Letter 43,
the commission for Wederhold, produced Witness
nuedI had not this paper before the interview
with the District Attorney but Wiederhod told me of it
about fortnight before do not recollect having heard
Of it before that time Major Schessinger may have told
me about it but don't rccoect this letter is surrounded
with many stories and lies it is impossible to tell
cannot recolect that Schlessingcr told about it,
have said thought schessnger told me about it. O.
DO you still think Schessinger told you about it Al
do not know. Q-When did you first see the letter!
A-Either in the Office Of the District Attorney or
short time before; that the time Wiederhod it
TO the District Attorney Q.-lTave you learned from
Wederhold that that letter written about the time
given his word Of henor that this letter written the
month Of March, afterwards he said it written about
the time it was handed to the District Attorney now
pretty sure that he told lie and have
obeieve that he stated such lie on a second time.
Mr. Van Buren, objected the latter part Of the wit
reasons
The Court said he would let it stand for the present
Q.-sncc Wiedcrhold got his money have you heard
him say that this letter was written in March Al
had frequently intercourse with Wederhold; saw him
frequently his porter house, he said that this
letter was written at the time IT was given to the Dis
trct Attorney except when he han again public house
and OSulvan knew that the letter in court. and
when the $500 refused To Beczey, and he CIV
in such condition not to be in need Of the witnesses fes
Of the United States
Q-Did you hear wiederhold say after he got his
pay that the letter written in March 1851 A.No
Q.When did you first observe that the letter had
date Alt the District Attorneys Office; the District
Attorney asked Wederhold when he received this letter
az II was without uAte. W eAlu ne
received shortly after the 1st March when he in
company with Schlessinger to Mr. O'Suiyan. who gave
him the letter Q-pd you ever see Lopez, A-No
saw his picture Q.-lias Lopez been in the southern
district Of New York as far az you know! A,-No O.
Where did schessinger tell you that Lopez was to CON-
mand this expedition? Ale told me SO in my room
different times; Schlessnger told he (S) could find
opportunity to marry the niece of General Lopez
the expedition succecded.
Mr. Van Buren, objected to the latter part Of the
swer Admitted for the present and exception taken
Odd Schlessingcr tell you that Lopez to
10 Ike he
A-Noi We intended to meet him in Florida from this
district.
juror here requested that the witness. direct tcsi
mony respecting this letter should be read in order
that his thcjuor recollection Of might be refreshed
The Court assened and the District Attorney read it
from the HERALD report.
Witness Observation-Disclosures did not say that
Lopez would not come into this district nor he did not
say he would come; it understood to meet
him in Florida Q.-Was that your understanding when
you at South Amboy. and about to sail! Ayes;
believed that would sail with the steamer Cleopatra
to Florida. meet there with Gen Lopez. and 20 from
Florida TO Cuba. Q.-Was this expedition to Cuba to be
proposed to you in Florida! Alt would not be pro-
posed to hut would be told in Florida that
going to Cuba Odd you not say your direct ex
animation. that when you got to Florida or Texas you
would receive proposition to go to Cuba. A-First.
Schlessinger informed me as stated in my direct
animation; afterwards. when became more intimate
with him he said openly going To Florida there
will meet the general and his staff will greet him with
hurTahs circumstances will then be such that person
withdraw. and directly we will start for Cuba, O.
start from where? A.-From Florida for Cuba Q--How
he determined in Florida when the proposition
was made whether they should accept IT or not. A.
There would be vote taken: would meet the
general greet him and at once go to Cuba as quick
possible. Odd Schlcssngcr tell you that they
to determine by vote whether they to go not A.
In the beginning he spoke about voting. and also
heard him speak to others about It, but afterwards he
ayowed to his confidential friend his plan. as
stated before Q.Who the persons to whom he said
that 1t would he determined 10y vote Al cannot re-
collect they those who intended to with us
and wished to know where going to. to these
Solcssnger made such statements that il would be put
to vote and if it would suit their wishes they could join
mott bny TnttlI Ua tnf nil her
friends well aware Of this being only talk to attract
QTo whom did Schlessngsr say in Texas that 1t
would BE- put to vote and that those who did not wish to
90 to cuba could withdraw A.ro different persons
whore do rrcolleot; they those persons
who wished to know whether going to Italy or
Cuba where and who would have preferred going to
Europe he sad to those who through this de-
caraon would have been attracted he stated so with
view that IL he had them in Texas elsewhere they
could not withdraw. Exception to the answer not