The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-04-17

and Clerk of the House, had determined il ,ohs -
by examining the official documents prepared nnd nad
direction OF the board and reported 10 the Houss S
John L. Ryess bid Tor the fourth class OF printing vh
embraces the executive documents, is only Slsa sSs
That 10 the net amount OF his bid, and What e. v'a
have received the same quantity OF that caas cf We'll
which was done for the last Congress should b. ofs1
for this. II you add TO it what he never bid or ma
what he never said he wanted, you may make the s -
large a. your imagination may please The bid Of john
T. Towers Tor the same class of printing, as 600 n
only about 81 900 less than that OF Ryes The agsr
gates are set down IN another table.
Mr. FLORENCE. They say that figures cannot liz
and here is fact In this very document. from which
the gentleman quotes. will be found. under the head az
total aggregate of the gross OF each proposal on
posite the name OF John G. Rves. the very figures
quoted yesterday from the little piece OF paper.
Mr.. STANTON And which he attempted 10 create
the impression in the House the amount OF money
Donelson Armstrong and Gideon CO. would get for
MT. FLORENCE. did not desire to create any such
Mr.. STANTON, That is not John G. Rives's bid
His bid does not amount TO that That is a mere caeu
laton 10 show you what il would have amounted 10 if
had been different bid from what really was. and i
ne had got the same proporonate price Tor 100000 copies
of the Patent Office report that he would have received
for 10000. refer TO this matter only TO show that he
committee were disposed 10 do what they believed 10 be
right They do not, upon the hand, give these men
exuavagant prices do they give them prices which
they could not live Surprising Mr. Rives to be an hon
est man, OF which have doublsupposing him be an
experienced and practical geneman-the committee pre-.
erred TO take his proposition in connexion with the let
Ter which lying upon their tables At the time, and 10
make his bid The basis OF the prices which they were 10
pay for this printing The parties themselves dissas
have indicated to US that they will not accept our propo
siton, unless we make slight modification. Mr. Rves
hands me this paper, which will read
~ still say that am the lowest responsible bidder for
owsst bldde. 10 Hamilton On the th class which always
has included the csnsus-and the win make moro
II will show clearly in the Globe of tomorrow that my
bid is higher than Towers's. J. @. RIvES."
It's possible he make il out He says in his letter
that he is the lowest bona de bidder who bid in good
faith, and that he is prepared by testimony TO prove il
the committee We took him at his word
MIR. PHELPS The gentleman has fallen into an
error. Speaking oil the bid OF John G. Rves, differ with
the gentleman n the statement he has presented to the
House. Mr.. Rives made his proposals to perform the
printing for Congress was divided into different classes
The proposition which is here presented is made under
the expectation that at this Congress there will be
many copies OF your documents printed were printed
for the last Congress He proposed then, that upon GER
number OF copiesihere should be certain discount for
the press work, &C. as for instance if you will turn to
page forty three you will ndI now look al his extended
bdaper cen,age deduction for additional COPIES Of three
classes:
work. paper, folding, and stitching for furnishing add
classes the additional copies to be printed on the Same
paper with the same ink and IN the same style, as the
For dedu for any number Of copies
Exceeding 1900. and not exceeding 5000 :
Exceeding 5000, and not exceeding 10000 6
Exceeding 0,OOO, and not exceeding 10000
Now. the computation which the gentleman from Ken
lucky Mr STAkroNl has offered, where he states the
amount OF his bid for the fourth class OF printing be
$207 900, is without the deduction. Ii he will look still
further in another column, he will find deduction Of
S3i e79 20 TO be taken from that amount and which
makes the proper estimate and proper calculation $751;
500 65. 4f
MIR. STANTON. We do not ditIer about that matter
at all. You are perfectly right, and so am l. His bid
| Mr. PHELPS. But that was part and parcel Of his
bid; and upon the Patent Office report il there were
100 600 or 1000 printed there certain deduction
TO be made from the prices at which proposed 10
| print IL
| MIR. STANTON. The calculation was based upon The
number of the Patent Office report printed the last
sion IL expected al the time this calculation
made, that portion OF his bid would apply to the
because sixty nine per cent was to be deducted from
But the statement of the gentleman from South Caro-
! lima Mr. ORRl was, that Towers's bid really
$4,000 less than that OF Rves refer 10 these doc
umens for the purpose OF correcting il and the otc'a
statement shows that there is really only difference
OF sl4 600 between lowers ard him upon that particular
class OF work Ryes proceeds upon the assumption
he states in this little memorandum which he sent me,
that he to have the printing but the
printing is not calculated here. II is not considered BY
The board who made ont the statement, and is not in
cluded IN this aggregate oil Sls6,o00.
have but little TO say and that relates TO the
character OF the work. We have seen some gentlemen
bold up portion OF the documents to show the House
that they done in good syle and argument TO
induce us TO retain this am willing 10 retain him,
II he will give any guarantee in the world that he can
90 and do the work he has contracted to do II We
have work laid upon tables called Foster and Whit
neys report, which Is not part OF the printing ordered
by this House, and which has no business here. II was
put upon yonr desks sample, and II the best job be
has done but IL was not done the regular printing OF
this House Ia done under the direction OF the Com
missioner of the Land Oce, and under special resolu
ton Of the Senate II really done badly that the
Senate committee rejected the whole lot, and will no,
take one OF them He to get fair price for that
manke He did not do 4 In any respect accord.
ing TO what his contract required As said yesterday,
the sheets OF paper which part oil THIS Work 10 done
are too small for the purpose, and leave too iIe margin;
so that when the books to be trimmed the edges
are cut of so close dsgue the book, and in some
instances, where there plates the names Of the plates
have been cut of. -
MIR FLORENCE | ask the gentleman il that diff.
Guilty does arise in consequence OF the plates being
wider than originally contemplated and II the pa
per is not OF the that originally contemplated
MIR. STANTON. | never measured the paper, but the
chairman OF the Senate committee informed me that II
was less than the contract required The plates,
know, are OF the usual octave size, and II there had
been margin enough the book the plates would never
have been dishgured.
But this is not all You may take up the very book
that has been laid upon desks and you will find that
there scarcely page OF IT that registers Everybody
who understands printing knows what mean by regis
rs the pages do not lie exactly one anotberi they
have slipped sideways, and you sometimes lind page
which has slipped distance OF two ems from where
QUE hi TO be- Then there places where the printing
is 80 light that you hardly read IT, and other places
where II is black quite 10 dIshgure the page IN
of these defects this particular book, the