The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-01-06


The HOUSE bsihg ia cOmniliss % The whols on The
state Of The uaon. and having under consideration The
amendment Of Ar yEsAlLs The rsso alon offered by
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Mr. DISNEY SAID;
on yesterday 10 have psrmred me speak when hrsi
obtained the hoor should probably then bsve said
much--yery muehin relation 70 ths merits Of the
iron utenng / shall now abs,aln from prrseatns aby
exsnaed views see around me Indications too ey,denl
TO allow me 70 doab the progfs,ya iad.d absolute
neeessiiy-oi action Instead Of debate nhaeaerd ~
considerations OF this sort. and animated BY desie 10
bring this matter 20 hna dcelsioa, wl not avail my
sell Of the privilege OF discussion sysn W The extent
which may under the resolution. limited i 10 10 one
has hour propose 10 iespsss upon the patience Of the
coniles bal for very bret period indeed ba regret
the conclusions 10 which have been forced 70 come y
this respect and the mode 10 which circumstances vii
compel me 10 handle the subject the lees. b<causr IN
dependeny OF all other incidental questions and ot the
various views IN which this matter may be presented,
the gentleman from Tennessse lMr Crsrsrl has in
fact practically presented the entire actual question be
fore the House for us decision II s wise and safe
rule which teaches that when have point upon
which case may be properly decided we never should
seek for another But as have Obtained the oor and may
under the rules occupy the attention Of The committee o
few moments will take the occasion. before at down, 10
utter sentiments Il may be that they peculiar
my self that may be they are al least quite different
from the general course OF remark heard yesterday ut
tered in this hall aude, s, 10 the idea OF niefven-
tion. And here for all, l:t say, In advance,
that Intervention stalks spectre in my path Il cannot
sarte me from my notions OF right and wrong but as
shall make some remarks upon this part OF the matter be
fore take my seat WILL in the bret place, ask leave 10
address myself 10 OF the questions OF order which
evidently will, when this committee rises be raised
in the House for its decision First, ~ objected that
this resolution is not properly before The committee Now,
every all familiar with parliamentary law and the
mtees OF whatever character, whether special select
or standing, have full power 10 act in each and every
case upon such subjects as may be embraced IN the
general scope of the authority conferred upon them by
the rule order creating and establishing them. well
all other matters which may be specially referred To
them by order of the House Committees OF the whole
constituted for particular purposes They were TO
relieve the legislative body from the rgor o the
laws if may express myself. 10 place the House 10
its undress 10 permit TO consider The subject on two
different occasions-ihe with freedom ard with
unestrained and united down by these formal ceremonies
principles of the law; and, in the other case to
slider according to the rules and ceremonies which Gus
tom, reason and may add common sense combined have
established for the government OF legislative bodies The
very and existence OF committees OF the whole
are 10 be found in the freedom with which you dis
cuss and handle subjects One attribute OF all committees
that when any particular subject may have been
erred TO them they may act with regard to H. and IN The
language of the law, report upon either by bill other
WISE Read the Manual. and you will lind that when
any paper subject is referred to the committee, they
ton or BY b and report it to The body who has APP
pointed such committee. In truth, IA | under
stand this matter, it seems 10 be conceded upon all
hands, that il the subectmaer OF this thing shall be
fairly before the that is, The subject out OF
which the resolution may have egmaiely grown. or
may legmaely grow--hat then the resolution may be
acted and properly reported 10 the House. That be-
ing conceded the only question that remains for TO in
qure into is simply whether there is legally before
this committee any subject matter out OF which resolu-
ton OF this The House has decided this
question iater myself il had been heard upon this
subject yesterday that could have convinced gentlemen
that The introduction OF the resolution was right because
such subject matter did exist but saved the neces
sily OF the attempt to-day by the decision which this
House 10 this morning in relation 10 resolution
offered by the gentleman IRON North Carolina, lMr.
CLIHGMAs,J by and in which you asserted and decided
that so much Of the Presidents message relates 10
Louis Kossuth was and is before this committee, and
that out OF this resolution has grown. say that point
already decided by the resolution OF the gentleman
from North Carolina but j waive all these positions
They not necessary essential TO the decision OF this
question The latitude 10 which have adverted. be-
longing to committees OF the whole, is established and
known TO the law Still you, by your usages and rules,
have not been content with that but have gone further,
and created another committee OF the whole, with higher
and broader privileges and less restrained in regard 10
the freedom OF debate or It's mode and manner OF proce
dure You have not only Committee Of the Whole but
you have Committee OF the Whole the state OF the
Union-a committee unknown 10 the common law, and
in which you exercise latitude OF debate sanctioned by
immemonal usage, unknown even 10 those allowed even
in committees OF The whole.
What is your everyday practce' No matter what
particular subject may be the matter pending before the
committee gentleman rises IN his place and presents his
views upon any subject within the range OF human CON-
prehenson lie does not talk at all about the matter up
which he Is going 10 vote he IS tied down by none
law tie is not put down by those motions and actions
which usually govern committees OF the whole. As we
have been told here, the practice of the House has been
10 originate bills in this committee, in the stated
by the gentleman OF bill being introduced in the
mi,tee for the admission of California 1t orgina ted in
the committee consequently IN conformity 10 the general
provisions which have alluded before in regard 10 the
powers OF the committee. Then, in my judgment, 1t is
sufficient TO this matter upon the general fact that
The Committee OF the Whole upon the state OF the Union
having the Union generally under consideration, this
matter, pertaining to the official action OF the govern
ment-bayng relation to the government as govern
men-s within The scope and authority OF the Committee
os the Whole the state OF the Union. But will not
tresmss further upon this point Time flies rapidly
Another objection is raised, and II is that the resolution
proposes 10 refer subject 10 the action ot another
committee appreheud that the gentlemen who
read that resolution carefully will find 1t proposes
no such thing Ii does not propose that this committee
shall refer any subject 10 the action OF another commit
tee; for admit ia that II is well Established that no
commtee--Beiiher the Committee OF the Whole nor any
standing or select committeeman refer matter OF which
il has the charge any other committee Does this
luton propose TO do any such tbings apprehend not
What s that resolution when fairly and fully written out
Resolved bg the House of Representatives., That com
mitiee be appointed" &c. ! know not whether the
technical phraseology is in the resolution or not but II il
be there gentlemen will discover upon the very face OF
resolution that il does not propose that this committee
shall refer this matter another committee bat II pro-
poses that the House shall refer this subject 10 the action
of the proposed commlteea committee TO he raised by
the order OF the House This committee is only discus
ing the propriey of recommending 10 the House this mat
ter But, sir stated, when got up had no intention
of respassing long upon the attention OF the committee.
with vast majority OF the members Of this Housethat
rather than either words