The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-05-28

Issd BY Mr. Marshall that il was sireiy congr1ous
lh The subject matter Of Mr.. Stanys resolution, and
attproposed 10 erect political platform Tor The whg
,rv; that il proposed nothing than expression
q The extentto which the wing members OF Congress-
h.n and there assembled, to be understood
!. committing themselves. in fixing the time aud place
4, National Convention. to the support OF the nominees
II that convention and. finally that il impossible for
Inc chair decide my resolution out OF order under any
recognised principle Of parliamentary law under
hs own expressed view OF the and limited powers
II that congressional cauc Ii seemed that the
chairman Mr. Mangum) felt that these suggestions had in
,bem the force OF truth He seemed 10 be embarrassed
believe that he entertained kindly feelings towards per-
onally He was polite, courteous. and kind in his bear
ing towards me- lie looked acted IL he desired to
decide my resolution in order Bat his former decisions
stared him in the face, and he could not consent TO be in
consistent with those former decisions He said that my
resolution quite different IN its character from that
offered by the gentleman from Kentucky, mir. Mar
hall;l but that his opinion OF the power and duties OF
that caucus had been distinctly announced and that opn
ion was, that no proposition which went beyond the
single object of fixing the time and place for holding the
Wing National Convention could be legiimateLy enter
mined and acted upon by that But, he added, the
meeting after il had disposed Of its legitimate business,
might If il should so choose, entertain and act upon my
resolution, and that the feelings of the chair midi
rda were in favor OF such result and that he would
oion Now. lei the precise words be marked and con-
sdeed RECEIVE my resolution as substantive pfoPoi
ii0n
repeat ,ha, to receive proposition IS one thing to
receive il and decide il 10 be in order is another and
yery different thing In public career that covers
period OF nearly twenty years, do remember single
instance in any deberaliye body OF which have been
member, in which the presiding officer refused TO re-
eeipe any proposition submitted by member. To re-
fuse 10 recipe proposition is the EXTREMIST dscour-
tesy--,he strongest mark OF reprobation-that de-
lucrative assembly visit upon any proposition sub
m,ted 10 its consideration. II is never resoried 10
by any deberative assembly except Tor the purpose
Of stamping and branding its reprobaiion upon
offensive proposition in the strongest and most in.
mis,akable terms BY way OF illustration. may remark
that the strongest mark Of Interpretation which Mr.
Calhoun coDended should be visited upon abolition
petitions was, that the Senate should refuse TO
Them. Yet, gentlemen inexperienced in parliamentary
proceedings who participated in the congressional
cuses which | discussing, seem 10 have understood
Mr. Mangum's remark, that he would my resou
ton as substantive proposition, being tanlamount
declaration that he would also decide it to be in order
Mr.. Mangum has not fallen into any such mistake. He
comprehends the proceedings OF that evening He under
stood. and understands the scope objects. and e
iects of his decisions He has said published, and
think will not say publish, that he revoked his
original decision made at the first caucus which was
that the powers and duties OF that restricted
TO the single matter of fixing the time and place for hold
ing the Wing National Convention, and that everything
proposing TO go further would be egmate--a naked
usurpaion OF authority.
By reference to the extract made from MIR. CabePs
remarks in the debate OF the nth instant il will be
that during the debate which took place in upon
Mr.. Brooks's appeal from the decision OF the chair
ruling my resolution out OF order, Mr. Cabe distinctly
propounded the question to the chair. whether he ad-
har m
order except firing the time and ploesJ for Nd.iona Con
psntion AND THE CHAIR REPLIED THAT HE ADHERED TO
THAT DECISION
1t was during the same debate, upon Mr.. Brookss ap.
peal from the decision Of the chair that Mr. Stroller Of
Virginia, responding to that decision of the chair and
describing its effect, said, in substance, that II amounted
10 reference of my resolution to debating society to
be formed and organized after the legitimate business Of
the should be disposed Of to take into consdera
ton matters and things which the chair, sustained by
the meeting, had decided to be Legitimate, and "a naked
usurpation," and therefore OF order in whig con-
gressonal caucus.
Ii Mr. Marshall and myself had submitted or 30.
luions 10 such debating society that described BY
Mr Stro,her, would have been guilty OF the absurd.
y Of asking the gentlemen who constituted that caucus
TO rebuke their chairman and siuhfy Themselves be-
the chairman had decided that those resolutions
were moi within the legitimate powers OF that caucus, and
that 10 jurisdiction the subjects embraced
by those resolutions would be "a naked usurpaon: -
and that decision OF the Chair had been sustained by
large majority Of the meeting II there is discrepancy be-
tween MIR. Mangun's recollection and my own as to the
facts which occurred upon the referred above
desire TO remind him that was The last of those who
withdrew from the CAUCUS aud that the las, thing which
did was 10 make earnest protest agans, his assumed
night TO deny 10 the wing members OF Congress, when
called upon TO FIX the time and place for holding Ma
uonal Convention the privilege OF stating TO what ex
tent and upon what conditions, they were 10 be under
stood pedsing themselves support the nominees OF
the convention and that. adopting the idea Of Mr.
Sfo,her, OF Virginia. trying to draw strong pic
tue Of that voluntary debating society charged with the
consideration OF Weglinak business to which my reso.
luton had been referred by the decision OF the Chair
and that while drawing this picture Mr. Stany called
10 order, and thereupon Withdrew from the CAUCUS
REFER Mt Maogum's memory, and that OF every other
gentleman who participated in those proceedings, 10
ihese iacts, 10 make it clearly manifest that il can
mol DC true that Mr. Mangum, any Stage Of The proceed
hgs' ruled, as presiding officer, that he would receive
and dsehe y BE- IN order, AR Marshalrs resolution or
ha offered by myself either amendments or as subsan
i've propositions. II Is not my obc 10 reproach or
Ssal any gentleman whose nexpcrence in parliamentary
proceedings has caused him to and mssate
he occurrences OF the whg congrc ssiona caucus But
Rsmy object 10 make il impossible for those occurrences
10 be hereafter msstaed without subleciing him who
may make such misstatemen the responsibility OF will
FOL and deliberate Misrepresentation Myself and those
who operated with that OCCASION are willing 10
ABIDE all the responsibilities which can attach to the line
o. conduct which we deemed duty to pursue Oher
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