The daily union., 1852-08-10
CONGRESSIONAL.
DEFERRED DEBATE.
THURSDAY, AUGUST S, 1852.
SENATE.
THE FISHERY QUESTION.


the President ia relation 10 the North American fisheries.
and Mr. HAmLIN having concluded his remarks thereon
as published IN the Uni OF Saturday last,
Mr.. BRIGHT moved to postpone the further consider
alton OF the subject ua tomorrow, for the purpose oil
taking up the Indian appropriation bill.
Mr. SOuLE. Allow me TO suggest to the senator me
expendiency Of poslponing the consideration OF this
maier--upon which shall probably have something to
say--unn day next week. in order that in the mean
time The communications made to this body BY the De-
paTtneni OF Stale may be printed that we may nave
them before and look into them 10 see what are their
contents and their bearing would therefore suggest
the further posponement Of the consideration OF this
matter until Thursday next, understand that it will
take that much time to have these communications
Ms. BRIGHT have no objection to that motion.
believe the order TO print made yesterday.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The printing has not
Mr. DAVIS. Mr. President whenever these papers
are printed, wish to suggest that there is bundle OF
papers here which were communicated some Tune ago,
competed with ms subject as la , "a n whe ,hsa
over, but should wish they might be printed, If they
are worthy of it, when the other papers are. They
contain additional inormation and perhaps the better
way would be to lei the whole subject go 10 the Printing
Committee, and let them select such portions OF the
papers file as are important and have them printed
with this communication. These are papers which
were communicated ut former session by the Executive
but were ordered 10 be printed II the gentleman
will let the question OF printing lie over until tomorrow,
will look at the papers and examine them.
Mr.. BRIGHT have no objection to that. feel
no particular interest 10 this matter, my principal object
MT. MASON. MIR. President. regard this subject as
one OF great Importance. 1t it subject which. on ac
count Of IFS importance, properly engages just now
the earnest attention OF the American people It is
matter OF great interest," and it is matter apparently
somewhat complicated 10 the present posture OF affairs
between US and Great Britain do think that little
matter of economy printing or less OF the docu
men,s should not be considered such question. |
submit therefore, that would be better to have them all
printed
they are pertinent documents. TO have them ailprn,ed
have had time examine them, but wish that all
the papers applicable to The subject may be printed Inc
Secretary had quite pile OF them upon his table Inc
other day. and should be very glad 10 have them eher
go into the hands of the Committee Foreign Rela-
ons be ordered TO be printed or such portions as The
Committee fit to select and think proper TO have
printed in connexon with this document
Mr. MASON. There must necessarily be some delay
if these papers are TO be put into the hands OF commit
tee OF the Senate for examination At the present stage
OF the business OF our session, should not think 1t advi
sable 10 have the course taken which s pointed out by he
senator from Massachusetts,, Mr.. DAVIS j and would
therefore suggest 10 that senator that he had better with
draw his moon suggestion and lei the whole be or
dered to be printed There nothing but lte qucs
tion OF economy involved and that very small matter
Mr. DAVIS. have no objection to that.
Mr. MASON. Mr. President, will now make the
motion that the whole OF the documents be printed.
Mr. BRIGHT. will accept that proposition. l move
IN postpone the further consideration OF the message
iii Thursday next and TO print all the papers upon the
Mr. SOULE, lin his ssat) All those that have not
already been printed We have portion OF them printed
Nj CASS. May / be permitted to observe, Mr..
President that agree with the senator from Virginia
The expense OF few dollars. less, in the print
ing of ihese papers ought not TO be regarded matter
OF much importance We want to see The whole of the
documents Many OF The papers are scattered among The
documents of the last twenty years, and we cannot go
and search them The whole OF the papers ought 10
be printed give 70 the Senate and to the pub
lie ul information upon the subject The expense is
nothing.
INDIAN APPROPRIATION BILL
The Senate resumed, as in committee Of the whole,
the consideration OF The bill from the House OF Repre-
senta,ives "making appropriation Tor The current and
contingent expenses OF the Indian department. and or
fulfilling treaty slpulaons with various Indian tribes
for the wear ending June 30 lS53ke question pending
being upon the fourth amendment oi The Committee on
Finance, which was TO strike out The following clause
FOR the pa yment the Shawnees OF money. due them
uuder and by the Of the 7h Of November
ls2 and Sh OF August 1884, between the United Saes
and nr two said tribe Of Indians the being
shs net balance received the treasury for sale Of their
lands in Ohio Ses 2ss q, Propided, hOrvs, That said
en, Of the above sam shall be made equally TO the whole
tribe rather than to either divisoa thereof
Mr. SEBASTIAN | move to amend the clause
which the Committee Finance propose 10 strike out
by striking out all after the word provided" and insert
ing:
That the validity Of their ctin shall be first investigated
by the Attorney General OF United States, according
hi. opinion be Iusr then the said be paid
the whole nation OF shawnees resding upon the Kansas
the said Sha wnees by valid OF the national
suhoy to be prescribed by the Secretary OF the Interior
agree receive said money in common. second that
they will hold IN common, nation the lands assign
the treaty OF 1928 Third that all claim by the Ohio
exclusive grant OF l0o0DJ under the
treaty of 1881 be forever released"
The object OF this is simply TO perfect the
clause before the shall be taken upon the motion OF
the senator from Virginia tMr HUsrrR TO strike IL out
This amendment which have sent 10 the Chair neither
Afrms denies the justice Of the claim but proceeds
upon the ground that there s plausible and possibly
valid claim on the part OF the Indians for the amount of
money which 10 here proposed to be appropriated but in
asmuch as il s tgaled question, and inasmooh IL is
one which, from the attention have been able TO devote
10 this subject, think have neither the time the
Opportunity now fully investigate, proposes 10 refer
il 10 the decision OF the Attorney General, with tull
and prnary powers not only 10 investigate be iacs but
also the OF both the treaties oi ls2o and s3l
which control the appropriation and govern hs right
Then Mr. President IN case the Attorney General should
be Of opinion that their claim valid the amend
ent regulates the disposition 10 be made OF the money IN
manner different from that in which the appropriation
stands IL provides IN the first place, that me two
wings OF the Shawnee tribe, who we're formerly hose 70
each Other and whose interests were somewhat connei
lag shall agree receive this eop,tn allowance ana
10 hold in also provides thatt they shall en-.
Joy tne use Of their lands upon the Kansas rver N CON.
mons and il further provides that the 10000 acres oi
land set oil Tor their benefit by the treaty OF 1884, shall be
released TO the United Staes and that no further ciaa
oe set np BY these Indians IN consequence IN Other
wons nt PRESIDENT provides Tor settling all hs olip-
cuuss and disputes in reference 10 the subect-mauef,
wncn seem 70 be involved ia the present clam az u -
now presented to U.S. that, IL the decision et the At
torney General y made they entitled TO the aPpro.
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