The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-12-08


at once In order to afford time for reflection he
moved an adjournment, which was agreed to- and the
| Senate adjourned.
House OF Representatives.
| WAsuNcroN Dec 7, 1852
| TIrE STANDING ooMsrrrsrs
On motion of Mr.. sTtrnENs. of Georgia the Speaker
was authorized to appoint the several standing CON-
| The PRESIDENTS Mrss.cE-rHr rARlFr-rHE SURPLUS
REyENuE, Frc.
The House resumed the confederation Of the proposi
en TO refer the Presidcnt to the Committee Of
the Whole on the State OF the Union aud print It, and
that fifteen thousand extra copies with tho
| ing documents be printed.
Mir. WsIenInas concluded his remarks commenced
Yesterday in favor of prng 5000 copies of the message
without The accompany ing documents, in sp ansh
aDgusgs lie combatted the reasons heretofore urged
against printing the message language other than
Mexico, but SEQ can speak English Therefore sound
| policy required the adoption Of his proposition
Mr. BnooKF, (vhig) of N. Y, proposed to amend that
part of the motion refer the message Committee OF
the Whole the State Of the Union refer that
psit which relates to the tariff and to select
committee with power examine witnesses and collect
testimony here and elsewhere with Instructions to report
possible bill to reduce the revenues from i'm
ports to amount which may be required sound ad
ministIatioD Of the government
;, Directly after Mr. Brooks proposition read, Mr.
HlcHA1psoS, (cem OF H. rose TO question OF order
as did also Mr Josks, (dem) Of Tenn After dis
cussion on this point the Speaker decided that the pro-
position to refer was amen6able
Mr. BKooKs after preliminary observations stated
few Of the which induced him to offer the amend
ment The first was that under the bad habit of doing
business the House was not at all certain that il The
reference VI the whole subject be made TO the Committee
ofthe Whole on the State Of the Union any action
be reached az all or any, upon any important part
until after the first Of January and when action is had
it will be so late and there will be suca hsste that mem.
Of the proposition which they would bs called
to vote lie, therefore wished to present this propo-
stion at the earliest day Of the session that during
the noidays the important facts may be elected,
and after the holidays brought to the attention OF the
ne hs s
to De mindful OF the fact that there ia probably
surplus revenue Of twenty millions of dollars there being
over fourteen miiion In July last lie did not wish to
begin making appropriations at all deliberate
action ca bs for that purpoe until the surplus
shall be disposed Of by taken
against any further accumulation of it into the treasury
SO long az we hay0 twenty millions surplus IL is impossi
Bile to administer the government with economy He
had separated IL from the ordinary OF sending
to the Committee OF Ways and Means, because in that
maitrom it VIC uld be swallowed up most other mat
ters are. rot relating Immediately to appropra-
tions. Besides, he knew, from his experience
that committee, that they would scarcely have
time enough to mature the General Appropriation bill.
bis idea he repeated to get rid OF the aurpu
venue by enarging the list of free articles and have
competition Of manufactured articles and thus place
manufacturers on par with other countries. Others
ssked for other things among them protection and
for an abolition OF outy On railroad iron.
Mr.. MILLION, (dem) Of Vao asked aIr Brooks in good
faith What bis objects were! What kind of reduction did
he propose! On the raw material alone the
factured article? He such as are manufactured
in this country.
Mr. BaooKs replied that he proposed an enhancement
Of the free list and tho reduction Of tho duty
material which enters into the composition Of manufac
!ried articles II was also true, he said in reply, that
the country might desre reduction some few
iactmed articles to promote healthy competition With
similar goods from abroad
Mr.. HAIL (dcm Of Mo-The gentleman seems to
speak of the opinion of the country to the tariff of
a6 On whst grounds dos he assert the country wants
such change Of the tariff!
Mr. hRocEsI will ansTer bJ asking another que stion
Does the gentleman propose to let twenty millions
Plus lie in the treasury, accommodating and more,
till the next Congress ensembles
Dir HsLIl--i would not.
Mr. BRoo,s-rhep there must DO action the sub
jtct of tlie tarih NOW forthwith.
MI HALL understood the gentleman to express the
general feeling Of the country with regard 20 the tau
but destaia the epiron Of the country just ex
pres,ed in tbs Presidential election different ftom him
DIR BRooKs- Oh lei this subject from the
Presidential vortex Let Us attend to business, and
Mr HaLI-That is just what want and desire the
arf to be modified 70 nIswer the wishes Of the people,
nd not Of the manufacturers.
Mr. BRooss said tho gentr,nans party had majority
tf sixty IN the houe and wheu the subject came Into
The housn for action u was for them 20 shspo ariff
Mr MiILsoS rtmaiktd d that small reduction Of the
ta1if would greatly decrease the surplus.
SIR. Brooks replied that would depend the mode and
manner know that the srf may be increased by re;
duction but co not propose to enter into discussion
Of the subject
Mr. CLiSGMAN (whig) OF n. C said he was Wiling TO
teke the whole subject. nceiving the duties TO be
tco high. There why tho government
tboud have revenue Of fifty millions lie would be
ratified TO the revenue reduced to thirty millions
He repeated be for reducing the taxes but when
they came to specify they found the subject difficult
to reduce came from the q ntlcman who Is Identified
With the prctectiorist periy, he did not wish to be
derstood a agreeing With what that gentleman had
uttered to-day 10 the manner mode of reduction.
Mr. Baoww (dem) OF Miss. said he recolected when
the tariff OF ls46 being adjusted that the gentleman
and his friends then confident that the act would
30 cut of the revenue ss to sink the government
distinguished gentleman from Ohio (alr. ynton), was
ceDf0eDt 1t could not produce twenty millions OF
but now after experience OF six years the gen
teman tMr Brcoks speaks az If by authority saying
that We haye surplus and know not what 70 do With IL
We have twenty millions in the treasury IL Is true but
have sixty seventy o. debt This is capital
way to dispose Of your surplus. Pay your bits with It,
Besides this be Lad yet to learn that the appropriations
Of last year, and those necessarily dependent
them in future. have been provided for. We have
delicate relations With Mexico which may involve
in large expenditures Depredations have been
committed Mescaps, owing to neglect Of the treaty
Of GusdaloUpe Ioago and outside rucr the dam
age may amount to fifteen twenty million dollars. lie
saished with the tariff Of s46 lie opposed
return to mlnimums and specifics.
Dir DrAS, (dem) OF N l., said he was astoaishea
that his cole ague should bring forward his proposition
sfter tss IaIty oi which he member had fought the
Of increasing the duties and Of encouraging the man1
acurers The wings had opposed the odors free trade
yor Of reducing toe tariff Of 1876 There is he said,
already special committee, whose duty 1t to inquire
into the revenues and he woudask his colleague he
not last session member Of the Committee Of Ways
and Means and whether he or other member Of that
ana whether be had made a report on the subject
Mr.. BnooKs replied that the Committee OF Ways and
Means were not aware In june last that there would be
surplus Of fourten millions, and By the drst OF Janu
sry noSt twenty millions
Mr. DIAN taid he willing, at proper time to 10
into cussion Of the huhtct but he opposed to
changing the tariff in principle Knowing as be did that
majority cf the country opposed to such change.
IL conclusion be moved the previous question: and under
its operation the amendment OF Mr. Brooks dis
sereei to by yeas 20, lays 90 as follows:-
YsAs-Messrs Atercrombe, Bennett Bitighaus Bowen,
Chandler Cha pmsp Churchwel, Clingman, Cotman, Gull
ON Disney, Dookery Doty. Eastman, Edmnn dson, Cay
ord Gentry Hsrper Haws Hascali Haven, Hebard, Hors
ord. John Howe ow Of New York Hunter, johnson Of
Georgia. King Of Rhode Island, kuans, Meacham Miller
Milson Bner Molory, Moore Of Pennsylyana Moore Of
louisiana Eorehssd Nsbers. OUTLAW. Parker OF Indiana
pennmsp Perkins Porter Price, Rose thekett, Saysge
schrmer oIn schoolcrsf sutde Smith staaly stanton
Sterbeps Georgia, straton, Tayor, Thurston. Wall
brGze Wslsh ard watkins, W Wesh, White Of Alabama,
Williams of Tennessee woodward ana ates 73
NAYS - Messrs. Allen OF Massachusetts, Appleton of
Maize, Arsrstt Of Virginia, Babeook Bocosk Bowie
of New ork Bragg Brown or 5ssspp Buell. cable OF
Ohio Campbell Of Ohio CARTER Cahie Chestau Clemens,
Cleveland Cobb Cooosk Curtis Daby Davis Of India
Dawson Desr, Dimmick Edsertop, Faulkner, Florence,
Foyo Freeman Fuller Of Maine, Gamble Gilmore 0oode
SOW German Green Grow bs; hsaSn @ Hasrs ,, 9i ren-