The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-05-28

change, and that was mistaken in that Iespee w
:" MT. Richardson. The gentleman from North C..
oliha' Mr. Chngmanl ~ yielding the floor other gen
uenen to occupy H. the Chair deciding 10 be Out d.
der, has LOST his hight 10 the floor
:. The ChairHaD. The Chair would have decided !.
the hrst instance, had the question been made lhs h
gentleman could yield the floor TO any genlleman ~
make speech but the question distinctly nm, 10
The committee whether there was any objection Ii ~
gentleman from North cgona Mi, Clingmanl yielding
70 The gentleman from Tennessee, [Mr. Geniryl M
objection was made. and the arrangement was consshS
TO by the committee. and the gentleman from North Car
DINA Mr. Chngman now claims the door, aud is emit
.Mr. Clingman. Under that will answer briefly n.
question put to me by my friend from Florida [MI Ca
bell IS IN relation TO tins point Of order But three
or four minutes left me before the expiration al my
hour and in half that time | answer that oueston'
and Then make my moiion. understood Mr. Nlansum
both in the caucus and since-and have had several
conversations with him-to say this. in substance ia
regarded everything which did not relate to The time AMI
place OF holding the National Convention as out OF order
both amendment and as substantive proposiion
but he also declared that after that matter was disposed
Of ii this motion made, and il majority OF lbe cen
fl TO entertain il, they might and he boped ,hs
would do so but he should be Obliged 10 hold thai was
not IN order II the point were made. lie would how
ever appeal TO them, and individually would be grained
the majority would consent 10 act upon H. and dec5
IT, understand this 10 nave been his position ali tbe
while" 'Ae
1t will be that there is exact concurrence OF sas
ment among those from whose speeches, in the House
have made the above extracts. Those extracts describe
truly the occurrences OF the two wing congressional can
cuses. Mr. Mangum has not contradiccd and am SURE
will not contradict. the statement of facts embraced n
the above extracts. Yet his card is so worded and
phrased to make the impression, upon the minds o
men inexperienced in parliamentary proceedings tina, he
intended TO deny the correctness Of those statements He
says in his card:
trys resolution out OF ORDER amendments to the reso
luton offered by Mr. Stanly. The chair, however, de-
cided to Mr. Gentry's resolution as substantive
proposition, if it should be so offered"
To reecirs proposition is thngto receive il and
rule to be in order is another and very different thing
failure make this distinction has led many gentlemen into
misunderstanding OF the proceedngs the congressional
caucus, and produced conflicting statements as 10 those
proceedings. Mr.. MaDgum has not said, AMI am sure
will not say that he decided 10 receive and rule in order
either my resolution or Mr.. MarshaPs But he seems
wish to be understood having ruled Through
out all the proceedings referred to above, have felt
strong Discrimination TO assal MIR Mangam. I am IN.
willing 10 assai him now or to say anything calculated
to njure him. But when he volunteers TO publish card
which seems 10 be intended to discred. though IL does
no. contradict, The truth of statement which have
made in debate justice 10 myself requires TO answer
it, My recollection OF the in the two wing
caucuses referred to in The debate from which have
made the above extracts, is vivid and distinct On the
7h of April The following notice published in the
newspapers oil CITY OF non. VIII
lie p Mangum, OF North Carolina:
The wing members OF Congress are requested 10 meet
at the Senate chamber Friday evening next the 9th
instant, al O'Clock, 10 consider matters OF importance
the wing party
"WEDNESDAY, April 7.1s52."
A, the time and place, sixty eight members OF The
two houses assembled. MIR. Mangum was called to the
chair and Messrs Chandler and Dockery appointed
secretaries. Before any distinct proposition was sub
mted 10 the meeting, motion made 10 adjourn,
that more numerous attendance OF the whg members
OF Congress might be obtained; and informal debate
arose, in the courss OF which Mr.. Marshall Ct Ken
lucky. remarked:
That, at the commencement of this session OF Con.
gress, certain gentlemen had retired from meeting OF
wing representatives because that meeting refused 10 Law
the table resolution endorsing the position Of The
present administration upon the series OF measures known
as the compromise measures'-that some OF the sane
persons had, during the session. publicly assaed III. said
resolution untrue expression OF wing sentiment in
regard 10 those measures-and that these persons
present TO assist determining the time and place
Tor The Wing National Convention. Considering the po-
son Of the administration this class OF questions, the
condition OF political parties, and the fact thai by the
resolution referred 10 was deemed cardinal principle
il thought by many to be the proper TO rea
in the meeting ol the wing members of the two houses,
the position which the wings in Congress hold Tie
compromise measures before proceeding 10 the steps pre-
paatory for convention OF the wing party He then
marked, that before the lime and place for holding the
National Convention determined. he designed 10
submit resolution 10 The meeting imboying the prnci.
pie proc almed by the wing congressional caucus OF De-
cember lasts and be hoped all present participate in The
proceedings would agree 10 The same"
No distinct proposition was submitted TO the meeting
by Mr.. Marshall but before il adjourned Mr. Mangum
made response to his suggestion, which is reported
the official report OF Messrs Chandler and Dockery
follows
The chairman stated that the question was moi, now
before the meeting but that he deemed il due TO The
gentlemen present. and 10 his own honor To state exp.
city tina, he should be called on by his understanding
OF the rules OF the Senate which had been adopted for
The government OF this meeting and the usages OF The
whg party, 10 rule out OF Older such resolutions; am
he took this early time OF stating the matter, that The
meeting, IL they did not approve OF this decision, might
call another gentleman to the chair"
The above extract is as far as goes but dos
state fully what the chairman said that occasion
He stated further that, in bis opinion the powers and
duties OF that wing caucus limited 10 The single sub
jtci Of firing the lime and place for holding the National hy
Convention. and that such resolution that suggested
Mr.. Marshall q quote from MIR. Mangums card
'nns nadmissbe s ground Of assuming construct
part political PLATFORM ohic the deemed as IN no erieni
wmran,abe BY The usago Of The Whig party,
rowrR, properly srucisab only BY The p.sp,
o. their rspresen in National Convention lie adhered
his declaration and made his decisions accordingly through
ALL PROCEEDINGS SECOND CAUCUS"
Mr.. Mangum having thus distinctly stated a, the first
caucus what would be his course OF action at the neIt
meeting Mr. Marshall shaped and phrased his resolution
10 make il applicable only to the whig members Of
Congress thus seeking to free il from the objection d
Mr. Mangum, that il assumed to make platform for h
wing party and confidently entertain the belief that
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