The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1852-01-28

MIR. GORMAN. The same rule applies in the
committee as in the House.
hr.'NABERS. Really have no very great INK
lety TO neke speech Gentlemen, | discover,
clearly misconceive the object which had in view
! wished to put an extinguisher on the contention
before concluded l do not wish To assail any
one. but will yield to the suggestions of friend.
Mr.. HOUSTON moved that the resolution be re-
ierrcd TO the Committee Of the Whole on the state
OF the Union, and demanded the previous question,
which was seconded
Mr.. GORMAN asked whether this would pre-
clude him from making an argument on the reso-
luton. he having reported III
The SPEAKER replied in the affirmative.
Mr. JONES. OF Tennessee, presumed from the
rule that the gentleman had u right to speak AN
The SPEAKER replied that the gentleman would
be entitled to that privilege if the motion should
not prevail.
The question was ken, and decided in the ailir-
Inasive--yeas las, nays IS.
80 tho joint resolution directing the Committee
on Printing to enter into a contract with Donelson
and Armstrong for the printing of the census was
referred to the Committee of the Whole on the
state of the Union.
PROPOSITION TO CLOSE DEBATE.
Mr. POLK offered rcsolution--that all debate
on the JOINT resolution just referred shall cease
on Ihursday next at two O'Clock.
Mr. CLlNGMAN raised the question that the
proposition was not in order at this time aud not
until the printing resolution shall have been con
sidered in Committee of the Whole
The SPEAKER. This is the usual practice, and
tue chair decides the resolution TO be In order.
Mr.. CLlNGM MAN Your predecessor decided
differently in similar case; and he appealed from
the decision.
MIR. STANLY. l move that the resolution be
Mr.. POLK. The gentleman is MT entitled to
the floor to make that motion have not yield
ed it.
Mr.. STANLY. The question i'd not debatable.
Mr.. POLK. 1t 10 surprising that gentlemen on
the other side are xious for discussion. They
nust have some object in it..
Mr. STANLY. There is--to save the public
money.
Mr. POLK. by request, modified his resolution,
to the effect that the debate shall close in bne hour
after the committee shall have had it under con
sideration.
Further proceedings ensued, when
Mr.. HIBBARD moved to lay the appeal from the
decision of the Chair upon the table; but the mo-
ton did not prevaii--yeas 76, nays lU.
The question now required on sustaining the de-
cision of the Chair; and being taken, was decided
in the neghtive-ayes 81 noes 90.
So MIR. PoLK's resolution, in effect was declared
out of order.
PUBLIC PRINTING.
Mr.. SHELTON moved to reconsider the vote by
which the Joint resolution proposing contract
with Donelzon and Armstrong this morning
referred to the Committee OF the Whole the
state Of the Union. He said that he had voted TO
give the resolution that direction, with view that
they might obtain more information upon the sub
Ject However, on reflection. he was satisfied that
they we're just as well prepared at the present time
to act upon the resolution they would be at the
end of the session. He was in favor of the most
rigid economy in the affairs OF this House and the
Government, and therefore he xious for the
prompt exec ution Of the public printing. to faci.
tate the business before Congress The question
occurred, how shall this be done? Shall gentlemen
delay from day to day, rs they have from the com.
mencement OF the session. and allow the business
L., ~
printing? 1t ia not only necessary that the print
ing shall be done in time, but in proper man
ner. Heretofore 1t has been executed in a way not
at all creditable to Congress the Government,
the paper and materials being bad
Mr.. FLORENCE inquired whether the gentle
man referred to the present printer the pre-
vious one.
Mr. SHELTON replied that not only was the
printing OF previous sessions badly executed, but
that of the present session.
Mr.. FLORENCE said that the gentleman had
satisfied him 20 far as the declaration was con
cerned, but he Mr.. F.) had his own opinion as to
whether the printing by the present contractor
done well or not. Now. he believed that the pres
ent printing was good had ever been sup
pied to Congress, whether by contractor or by
the editor of newspaper elected printer by this
House.
Mr. SHELTON said that the public printer (Mr.
IIamilon) was stranger to him; therefore he had
personal feeling in the matter. He did not even
know the politics of the gentleman; his object was
TO have the printing done IN good time. The work
should be executed in a proper manner. While he
should insist on rigid economy in giving out the
printing, he believed that the members of THE
House are willing to allow fair compensation; 20
hat men may not come forward, alta future dav
and that they have lost on the Job and ask for
indemnify. II We lose in money, will gain in
other respects. He moved the previous question;
1ut withdrew the motion at the request of
Mr.. GORMAN, who promised to renew il and
who repeated what he said yesterday that while
he lsy do y,sipp he a
1aratory forms CT the oensus the printing of the
ensus wac left to the direction OF Congress He
sked what was the size OF the work. About two
olumcs the size of the Congregational Globe or
his the Superintendent Of the Census informed the
gentleman from Maryland (Mr. EvAss) AN hour
ince. II the historical part Of the work he left a.
hirty per cent. less
Mr.. EVANS said that the Maryland statistic,
md history would make one hundred pages and
low much more will other States OF the Union com
'rise? The specimen Of the work-tho MARYLAND !
,art-would be laid upon the tables OF gentlemen |
IN Friday or saturday, he had been informed by |
lac Superintendent
Mr.. STANTON, Of Kentucky sent to the Clerk !
letter from the Superintendent which was read |
onfirming what had been said by Mr.. GoRMAS /
. to the size Of the census work
Mr.. GORMAN said that the historical part could /
e left of II gentlemen desired this To be omitted
e you'd propose an amendment with this view |
o that the printing may proceed, az IL earnestly (
esred by the Secretary of the Interior the Super.
Ol inc tcnsub, anu all.
lie askcd whether the II Juse not willing 10 /
rust the Committee on Printing to make a con. |
rae, which would not be dishonorable. As to the |
os, Mr.. Riyes got sl37, 900 for printing the last
ensus; this IA starting point; then call on |
;sles and seatOn, aud Gideon and Company and |
Mr.. STEPHENS, Of Georgia. was understood to |
eli, will you call on Mr.. RiSes to-day?
Mr.. G0RMAS. Certainly.
Mr.. STEPHENS. Then Why DO yoa come mere /
nd propose TO give the census printing to Donel.
oh and armstrong;
Mr.. GURMAN. For the ssme reason that IL tn. !
Jsntlsmsns party was in power he would put
; ales and Seaton'sor Gideon aud Compan y's name
q the rssoluton II there was n job 10 be let
Mr.. STEPHENS made a remark, inaudible to
be reporter.
Nc. 'GoRMAS. The gentleman ,ays that he
lns no party.
mr. sgAATOg, or kentucky, asked whether
be preparatory forms Of the census were not
printed at the Republic Office. Gentlemen who
desired could not have the schedules changed in
important particulars, because the Secretary Of th.
interior bad foresalled them, and given the job to
p artisan editors.
DIR. GORMAA said tlist party has something to
10 with inserting ,he names Oi DJnelsou aud Arm.
strong "a the resolution, and that il would be dir.
honorable 10 him TO Disguise lie fat. He con.
i.ssed that, whenever he had tic power he should
otVe laf matt he no