The daily union., 1852-08-31


whether The Improvements OF the Tombigbee will cost
$4,000 or $4,000 DOOR We want to know that before
we commence the work, because commence with
KIND OF assurance that We will 90 We do not
10 throw the money lato the nver and let flow into the
ocean, and leave marks oil the progress OF the work be-
hind H. Like reasonable men, when we are about to build
we should sll down and count the cost To be sure
not determine II 10 mathematical certainty, but can
gel an approximation 10 Il which will enable to act
undeTsaudlDgy What is the operation think every
gentleman will have seen it, We have now commenced
race as TO what will put in the bill, and before we
nave done presume we shall add millions 10 II and
say that this ule with regard 10 the survey and esll-
mate, 10 the only remaining barrier Tor It's safety We
should require survey and estimate by competent
men as 10 whether the Improvement Is necessary, and
The expense TO which It will lead US If we have not
ths we shall open The oodga Of the treasury, and
lei all the money go out do not pretend TO have
sagaclty than others, but foresaw what would be the
state OF things II you amended the bill al all that
you would open II 10 an incacnabe number OF amend
ments, aud we have found il 10 be There will be still
more before we get through.
Mr., BROOKE In reference to the Yazoo river, can
say that have estimate that satisfies my mind much
better than any estimate which could be furnished by any
department IN this city II is made by experienced
captains and steamboat men who have been navigating
that river for years II is true, have not got on paper
before me but as passed over that rver my way
here, was informed by gentleman OF this class thai
THIS amount OF money would mater rally aid the naviga
ton OF the river. In reference 10 the Pearl river.
have no such estimate But, sir, we have been here
voting thousands and hundreds of thousands OF dollars
Tor rivers without any estimate being presented the
Senate at all II is true that estimates may have been
| There was river in New Jersey for which we voted
$780, the very name OF which struck almost every
senator on the hoor with surprise IL The Shrews
bury river. We have all heard OF the Shrewsbury clock
mentioned by Shakespeare by which that old hero Jack
fastaf for whole hour fought the men in buck ram
But nobody had ever heard OF the Shrewsbury river
before large amount do not know how much--was
appropriated for that river But when we come to the
important rlver Yazoo and The river Pearl upon whose
bosom5 HOa hundreds OF thousands OF bales of cotton,
we met with the objection that they are not mport
| ant rivers.
Mr.. ADAMS. | will deain the Senate bu, a momen,
IN reference 10 thus amendment which have offered. Ii
true, we have not been running the head OF the de-
parlment to get an estimate, which any could get
for such river the one propose to have improved
here. have said that II navigabe for steamboats, for
600 miles, with many hunureds and thousand. of bales
OF cotton transported upon it, is said tina, should
go 10 The head oil the department at Wa hngton and OBJ
tam The information which we ought to have about this
matter. Why, sir, ii | wanted TO inform myself about this
matter, would 20 to Lyon Laughridge, old steam
boat captain upon that river, and he would furnish me
with more information in regard TO that river than the
departments in Washington could in year. Then what
rule will we establish No particular principle If the
SENATE IS satisfied that II is work which should be
made, then vote for it. But you think il should not be
made, then vote against it, upon the ground that 1t not
entitled to It's dsbutlve proportion OF the of the
country If you think have objection to that;
do not care one cent whether II adopted or rejected
We have not been IN the habit of looking the federal
government for any assistance But thought my
duty to bring il TO The attention of the Senate, now that
perceive that 10 appropriate for similar objects in
other States And do object TO its being rejected upon
IL,
and has not reported upon it, Now, there no other
mode In which this body except through infor.
nation from the department. supposed that The Sen
ate cond act upon information that satisfactory to
the minds oil senator's All that ask is that my const
uents may have their portion of the spois, if this bill is
TO pass ;.
Mr. CASS will not assert the fact but [ believe
you may look back through all your river and habor
bulls, IRON the commencement OF the system 10 this time,
and you VIII not hnd single appropriation which is not
based upon the surveys and OF the Treasury
Department do not say that captains of steamboats,
may not be intelligent men, ba! ,hey not the persons
10 whon we are TO refer IN regard 10 estimates
Mr ADAMS. Will the senator be kind as to in
o1m he e Senate \ the appropriation for the dam at the
ance with estimate of the Department.
Mr. CASS have no doubt it was-not the slightest
IN The world; But the honorable senator repeat the
BELL.1
Mr.. ADAMS. will, then, ask that senator if the dam
at the mouth OF Cumberland river was estimated fori
MT BELL. captain Long, a very competent engineer,
made very long and detailed report upon the whole
question: and the appropriation based upon that esii
mate
Mr.. ADAMS. | would then call the attention of the
Senate to the fact that the honorable senator from MIS-
soun Mr. GEYERl and the honorable from Ken
lucky lMr. UNDERWOOD are divided upon the question
as to how this appropriation OF $4,000 this bill shall
be apped-the one asking that 1t may be appropriated 10
remove what has been done by the upon the
estimates OF this bureau, am the other that may be ap
propriaed for the purpose OF repairing it,
Mr.. CASS. am well aware of that fact: do not
claim inlaibiy for officers or any body else These
western rivers Tremendous things understand that
they are continually changing, and man can tell how
may turn out IN regard 10 them And well 1t might be
so in regard TO the experiment Of improving The
navigation OF the Ohio and the other great rivers there
And IL Is essentially necessary for prudent legislators 10
have at least idea OF the expense TO which thew are
gong to lead the country And let me say to the honor
able senator from Mississippi [atr ADAMsl that this is
not question oil 10 day; II is Question which was
raised al the last session. and the ground upon which we
voted against the bill OF that session.
Mr. DAVIS. 1t is absolutely and indispensaby neces
and proposes $4,000 for a certain improvement Now
how are we TO know that S20,0J0 will bring that work
out OF DANGER that II will not be destroyed the ne x
Year,
Mr.. JONES, OF Tennessee. wish to ask nv friend
from Mississippi L Mr. ADAMsl one question He has
offered amendment appropnatug SIS 600 for the i'm
provement OF The Tonbigbee river; aad il is yery
proper one, have doubt But will the senator vote
for the bill if we adopt his amendment,
Mr.. ADAMS ! will not | said 80 when offered il
Mr. JONES OF Tennessee. Then, we had better vote
il down.
MIR ADAMS merely wished 10 test the principle
upon which pass this bill
Mr.. A rCHISON. VIII the honorable senator from
Tennessee Mr. JosEsl vote for the bill If the appropra-
uon Tor the Tennessee river is not in in
Mt JONES, ! shall vote for The BILL whether the
Tennessee uver appropriation be In or out.
ine question was then taken upon the amendment 10
lne amendmen-that Is, adding appropriation OF
SIo,ooO Tor The Iombgbee nver and ii was rejected
he question then recurred upon the amendment oil
Mr.. BROOKE, apptoprsting $1,000 each for the i'm
provement Of the Yaxoo and the Pearl rivers
MI. BROOKE called for the yeas ana nays and they
We're ordered accordingly
The question being then taken upon the amendment
hW.