The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-08-28

FIRLD.--Ws published yesterday tho results of the
primary elections Of the democratic party in This
city, together with the scenes and incidents attend
ant upon these assemblages. There was fighting,
and roWdyism, and violence, to an extent without .
precedent in New York. In some cases the battle
was between the barnburners and the hunkers, and
"ths soft shells" and the hard shells y in other
cases between one Sc. Of fighting men and another,
and in others between individuals on each ticket,
without any political principle whatever being in
volved. The whg leaders we're most active in
tanning the fame impressed with the idea that the
more sighting The better for them. In soma in
stances one faction took possession Of the polls and
prevented tho other faction from voting. In other
cases each party had possession in turns, and the
fighting was desperate. again. one party ran
sway with the ballot box and carried it off TO po
lice station, filing it, perhaps, with votes the way
Then, in other eases, as alleged by the defeated,
the ballot boxes were half filed with tickets before
the election commenced; and hence the votes
counted sometimes far exceeded the whole num-
Der Of democrats in the ward. Wings voted
as well as democrats, and democrats from
other wards voted in the wards to which they
did not belong, and voted several times, too. Thus
the whole thing was pretty much Of farce, IS fGr
as any correct indication of opinion goes.
Not only were the rowdics and fghtingmen Of
New York engaged from different wards, but the
baggage smashers Of Albany were brought under
contribution. The lighting was universal, and,
wha. is worthy Of remark on this occasion, the
working men were enlisted in the battle, and in the
majority of cases succeeded in beating the regular
professional pugiliss, which is new feature IN the
New York elections. The organized lighting. mon,
for the most part, joined the minority Of the COM
mittee; but the majority of the committee were,
on the whole, triumphant throughout tho city,
and they displayed n, ordinary tactics. In
stead Of paying and employing the regulars, they
enlisted volunteers, who made p for their want OF
skill by their numbers and enthusiasm In this
conflict of passions and interests several Of the
leaders were defeated, particularly of the barn
burner and "soft shell'' side. Among them John
Van Buren,, in the Fifteenth ward, VINO ran on the
minority ticket, but VIII, alleges the proceedings
were unfair. He intends to go behind the decision Of
the inspectors and claim his seat at the State Con-
yention at Syracuse, where-about his admission
and rejection-no doubt there will bs another row
kicked up, equal to that at Tammany Hall, or any
that took place on Thursday night.
All these scenes, however, are very disgraceful,
and these primary elections utterly corrupt both
among the wing and democratic parties. Tho
wings are growing over the recent conflicts o.
their opponents, and calculating upon defeating
them in consequence of the i'll feeling excited
in the party. But let them tax care. Let them
look at home. Their primary elections are not yet
held and we venture to say that when they arc
held they will be found to outstrp in violence, this
year, as they did last, all the rowdyism of Tammany
Hall. They can employ the same fighting mon, or
others as bad, and the same passions and the Same
sefshness-the Same thirst for the spoils-exists in
one party as well as the other They are all alike.
The Seward wings will do battle against the silver
grays with as much animosity as the barnburnsra
and .ssoft shells" did against the hunkers and the
sshard shells and the result will be that all good
and patriotic men will feel more and more convinced
of the necessity of putting end to primary cleo
tions for the future. This is probably the last time
they will ever be tolerated by the people. The nom-
nations may rub through this fall, provided both
parties select the best men. If they fail to do this
they will both be probably upset, and reform party
will be organized, which will sweep the city and put
down these party organizations, at least ovsr-
throw tho present depraved and corrupt system Of
primary elections. This would be the greatest boon
ever conferred upon long suffering community.
The New YORK CORRESPONDENTS OF LONDON
JoURNALs.-We have for some time past noticed
with what degree Of acerbity the New York CORES
pendent Of the London Times has been criticised by
the two antislayery organs Of this city, the Tribune
and Times. These journals have charged the cor
respondent in question, week after week, with mis-
representing tho affairs Of this country and actually
humbugging the Times with the grossest absurdi-
ties and fasities particularly in reference to the
Presidential election and to the relative chances
the two great parties. Now We have pretty regu-
larly read the communications which have awakened
the spleen and satire Of these papers, and must say
that, in opinion, the statements nearly COR
rect, in every particular, and very free fromany kind
of Misrepresentation His estimates Of the numbers
ofpeople attending the great Niagara whig demon
stration is not at all incorrect, notwithstanding all
the assertions Of the Tribune and Times, fixing il
at upwards Of fifty thousand. We ha q special re-
porter at that meeting, who made fair and
accurate calculation of the numbers attending
it, and he felt confident that at no time did
they amount to over fifteen thousand; and we
defy any evidence to be given Of fair and repu-
table character-not partizan-to prove the contra
~ The wing mass meetings all over the country
hare been, in general, utter failures and those Of
the democrats have been very little better, with
the exception of the FIRST ratification meeting at
Tammany Hall, not at all equal to those of for
mer campaigns. Perhaps the mass meeting at Hills
borough will have been somewhat better than usual;
but the recent wbig mass meeting at Harrisburg
was one Of the most extraordinary failures that
ever befell a political move in this country.
The facts stated by the New-York correspondent
Of the Londen Times, in relation to the politics and
opinions Of this country, have been, so far as we
have seen them, generally correct--and we volun-
tarily testify to their accuracy, in contradiction to
the accusations Of such mere one. sided parti2an,
Tribune and Tin es. There is perfect and CON-
plete apathy throughout tho country. in reference