The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-07-15


cut, must be permitted 20 decline appearing again
in public on the subject"
Sir, when was the "propcr time 70 which you
refer 4 Was Il when you bad Ell cne patience
Of your audience on the Sth, after having given |
nersonal challenge to any one who would accept |
Was II \ proper time 10 challenge for single combat,
before q general assembly Of the people, convened
espeeiallv for religious wsrshipi
How ceaId you, then, have promptly and gladly
relieved yourself from any erroneous impression
your auditors might have derived from the substance
and tone of yoar remarks" when you knew not
rom what source your auditors derived those I'M
pressions And was it your boasted privilege, your
proper time 70 FIRE and light your battles DER
again" as quick you had given challenge, with
out waiting 10 see If any ono accepted it II SO,
who would you have been likely to ht-iadies or
gentlemen
II was true, sir. what said, at the close of your
speech. and repeat il here, that my expressions
may not be mis.aken-i said in reference to your
speech, Judge Brocehus is either profoundly igno-
rant, wiliully wicked-one of the two. There are
several gentlemen who would be very glad to prove
the statements that have been made about Judge
Brocohus and which he has a. tempted TO repel; but
VIII hear nothing more on either side a. this con-
ference.
Ard why did say it I To quell the excitement
which your remarks had caused in that audiences
not 10 give accept challenge, but to prevent any
one tof which there were many present wishing the
OPPORTUNITY, and every one, from accepting your
challenge, and thereby bringing down upon your
head the indignation of an outraged people, in the
a
tien and business, and which, your remarks CONT
sued, must have continued the excitement, until
there would have been danger " Of pulling Of hair
and cutting OF throats, perhaps, on both sides, If
parties he'd proved equa,-for there are points in
human actions and events, beyond which men and
women cannot be controlled. Starvation will revo-
lutonizc any people and lead them to acts Of afro
city that human power cannot control and will
not mother $ Ieelnes, in view Of her murdered of
spring, her bleeding husband, and her dying sire,
by hands 81 mobociatic Violence be equally strong
and uncomfortable, and especially when tantalised
70 the highest pitch by those who stand, ought
TO stand or sit, with dignity or the Judgment seat,
and impart justice alike to all
Sir, what confidence this prosecuted, murder
ed, oneast people have in your decisions from he
bench, after you have tantalized their feelings from
the stand by informing them there IS yet hope in
their ifthey will apply to Missouri and Illinois.
| ask you sir, il you dld not know, when you was
thus making your plea, THAT this people have plead
With the authorities OF those States, which are
doomed 10 irretriev0ble ruin by their own acts,
from their lowest magistrate to their highest Judge,
and from their halls legislature to their governors,
times and times and times again, until they with
force of arms have driven from their midst, and
utterly refused the possibility of the cries Of
dered innocence from reaching their polluted ears.
| ash, sir, did you know this? II not, you were
profoundly ignorant; yon were possessed Of iguo-
not TO be tolerated in children OF ten years. in
these United States. But, on the other hand, if
you were IN possession Of the facts you wilful
ly wicked in presuming to tantatize, and rouse in
anger dire. those feelings of frail humanity on one
hand and offended justice the other, which it is
our object to bury in forgetfniness, and leave the
Issue 10 the decision OF o just God.
Your motive, action, design, You wholly con-
eeaed, or you could never have gained hearing on
such an occasion
As presiding officer ia said conference, did pcr-
nit any man to accept your challenge? No, sir, you
know did not; ana could you, "a gentleman,
ask ne privilege to defend your challenge be-
fore it was accepted! Don Quixotte should not be
named in such farce No, sir, out of mercy to you
I.
And until the challenge accepted you had moth
ing 70 reply to- When then, was the proper time,
You refer to- when you would have replied, and the
privilege VAS denied you! No such time as you mad
supposed existed.
And now, sir, as it appears from the whole face Of
the subject, that Tomorrow might have been the
first proper time that might have given you the
privilege Of explaniDg. and a. this courtesy you
have utterly refused and thereby manifest choice
to leave incensed public in incense still, against
| your Gas they now view iD dishonorable course,
shall take the liberty Of doing my duty, by ad-
vertDg stiil further TO yonr reply of yesterday.
Charity would have induced me to hope, at least,
that our speech in part, was prompted by the i'm
pulse of the moment; but AN forbid this pleasing
| reflection, by your note, wherein you state that
'my speech in all ts parts was the result of debe-
ration and care, not proceeding from heatcdimagi
nation maddened impulse - intended to
cay what aid say" Now, ifyou did actually ''in-
tend TO say WHAT you did say, it is pretty strong
rresumptiye testimony that you were not ignorant
for if you had been ignorant, from whence arose
| your intentions! And il you We're not ignorant,
| you must have been wilfuly wicked; and | cannot
conceive of more charitable construction to put
upon your conduct that occasion than to believe
you designedy and deliberately planned speech to
excite The Indignation Of your hearers to an extent
that would cause them to break the bonds of pro-
pretty, by pulling your hair cutting your throat
wiling no doubt, in the utmost Of your oenevolencc
TO die a martyrs death, if you could only get occa.
sion 10 raise the hue and cry, and Remainder vr
taous people, as Missouri and Illinois has So often
done before tylOriOus MI ta n nj
corresponds most fully with the declaration which,
1t reported, on pretty good authority, that Judge
Brocchus made while on his journey to the valley,
substantially as foows:-"If The citizens of Utah
do not send as their delegate to Washington by
God, III use my influence against them and will
crush them have tho influence and the power to
do it, and viii accomplish it if they do not make
Now, sir, / will not stop to argue the point
whether your honor made those observations that
rumor says you did; but will leave it to an intelli-
gent world, or 80 much Of that world as are ac-
quanted with the facts in the case decide whether
your conduct has not fully proved that you harbored
those malicious feelings in your heart when you de-
iberatey planned speech calculated in its nature
to rouse this nmunity to violence, and that, too
on day coAsecrated 10 religious duties, your de-
c,aration to the contrary Notwithstanding that YOU
did not designto offer iDdgnity and insult When
mans words are set n direct opposition to his
time. Where, then, is the force Of your deniall
One item more from your note, reads THUS Ny
cole design in the branch of my remarks which
seems 10 be the source Of offence, was TO vindcate
the government Of the United States from those
feelings Of prejudice, and that spirit Of detection
which seemed to pervade the public sentiment &C."
Let me inquire what "pubic sentiment you refer
red te Was il the sentiments Of the States Mt Target
II so, your honor missed bis aim, mos. widely, when
be left the city Of Washington to become the au-
thor Of such remarks. You left home when you
left Washington. II such "prejudice and defec-
tom curepresent there existed there You should
have Numbered your anathemas, and made the peo-
pie feel your patriotic allegance; but, if ever you
believed for moment--ifever an idea entered your
soul that the citizens OF Utah. the people generally
whom you addressed on the Sth. were possessed of
spirit of detection towards the general government,
or that they hsrbored prejudice against it unustly,
50 far you proved yourself profoundly ignorant
of the subject in which you was engaged, and Of
the views and feelings Of tho neonle yho,, Won al