The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-03-13
The Alleged Cuban Expeditionists,
United States District Court.
Before Hon. Judge Judson

John y. Rodman then examined by The District
Mtorney and dcposcd-My occupation in March, 1851,
wa IN the city foundry aud steamboat operation 1
acted as agent tor canboats either IN running buying
- cling resided At aes Washington the city
=. Nc" iork; was. at that time acquainted with a
steamboat called the CLEOPATRA; do not recolect her
tonnage she was about 2l5 fee, long % fec. WIDE
ara ABOUT II ieet depth Of hold had known her since
she was built she had been running on Long Island
sound she bad run to Hartford ia her carly days. but
more recently between Norwich In connection with
the Worcester railroad purchased that vessel in the
tpring OF 1901; purehascd her from Isaac newton and
that II is material; thought her for myself aud paid er
her myself
Mr. Cutting said he would press the question on the
crosse examination.
Witness continued-I sold her again the papers Of the
bin of sale to Captain wilson, think Phneas o.
Wilson; the bargain for the purchase made with me
by Oliver Ptfsd MIR Pithcd is the only that ap-
piled to me for the steamboats, bought herby the desire
Of Mr. Pittfeld
Q-Did he tell you what purposes she was bought?
Mr. Cutting o.Jeetaa 70. and the Court ruled against
the question
several days. but the title papers were made out the day
after bought her, the next day; delivered her to
man CO.. her engines and steam boiler overhaued
and repaired; they thoroughly oycrhaued and
h"s en the other know .. about
lThe paper identified marked twenty-five by tbs
Court There were new chimncys got for the vessel
QWere they made the height the old onos or
were they cut down and altered! Al think they
made the height. QWerc the repairs made in re-
fisnce to sea voyage AThcrc nothing different
except bacng her chmncys; additional braces were put
from the tops of the chmncys to different parts
gel; the object Of that render thc liable 70
fall over. Of she had been Designed run on tho
North river would those additional braces ne
ceasary! ANo sir think not; the steamer vns after
wards arrested and detained by Rodmia Co for the
pairs QIs the amount for the lien for repairs correctly
stated in this paper at SO $50 Is! A! think II is i
think that amount oonprchends two cargocs coal paid
for; see but cargo in the account he idred and
ten tons about 1873 in another place there is addi
opal twenty tons sS; believe tho of the items
charges for repair bestowed the boilers and engines;
the lien was discharged some tw" days after she
pasf.I no I,tt ~.
Rodman e. Co.. A.--Eoth; there not than Q
days difference i~twccn the two arrests
Q.-Who paid the amount Of that bill
AIR. OSuyan paid the nmouut OF that bin to Rod
man & Co; Mr. 0'Suliiyan claimed 20 be the owner OF
osuyan was not down to our oos nersr sav ma
| there never saw him until he paid the money; saw
experimenting the repairs but Capt Wiipon and
Mr. Pittfcd; saw them daily, sometimes two three
times day. the vessel was some two three weeks under
repairs.
Q.-Wss there any anxiety manifested the part Of
the persons experimenting her get her ready
mr. Cutting objected Admitted Exception taken
Witness continuedMr Pittfed urged the work for
Q.-what was the he gave for urging the work
objected Admitted. and exception taken
Witness continued-Capt Pittfcld in great haste
,Sgst er TO New orlcns MS he said there was party
there ready to advance him money for another steamboat
| that he had purchased
Cross-examincd--Q-I old was this vessell Al
think he out in the spring of 80 at the time
bought her che withdrawn from the Norwich line
think he had been cut in two and spced twice In that
two operations she has been sincc cut in and short
ensd about 1CO aughter); she launched about
ten days since; they putting In engines and
boiler the engine boiler pu. in are now
in the steamboat Lady Elgin running Lake Eric; Mr.
Osuliivan paid me while the vessel sl in the hands
of the Marshal; 1t the last Of April first Of May;
the coal was anthracito did not pat oil the coal
the Lackaw s Company put on about 100 TONS we
her. the Mursha arrested her two days before
arrested her.
To the District Attorney-whcn the Marshal arrested
her she then within twenty of
for
Mr. Cutting-You mean as far as the engines and
boiler concerned.
The District Attorncy-And with the Goals board
- C9pt Paul udyardy .leSanlincd by the District Ator
a. to be ,nderstood speak the German better; am
from llungarythc Western pnrt near kaab situated on
the Danube river. between Buda and Prcssbtisp was
engineering corps; served under General E'terhazy.
afterwards under General Georgey and afterwards under
General kapka in the revolution and fought at
Comorn; / came the United States about two years
ago; the oath February two years came TO TINS
country with Governor Uaxys party; arrived in this
city, and remained here abou, four five months; then
went to Cincinnati and from that to New Orleans 1
arrived there in the month Of November 1850; was
there in the winter and spring Of 1851 from November to-
April; knew General Lopez IN New Orleans; knew
Major schlessngcr at that time; introduced to Mr.
OSullvnn 1T that time by General Lopez; it was Mt the
end Of January or beginning Of February; had known
Major schlessngcr before that time; knew him at tho
battle of Conorn
Q-Wkat was hs rank nt home, OBJECTED to and not
prcssedl have General Lopez and schlesangcr
and Osuiyan together; can't rccolcct tn, day but
Scblcssinger mad. acquainted with General l.opes
Qstatc the subject of the converr 'a.ion when they
gentleman whose don't remember AMI two others,
named L,wad Caarnowsky. were present; General Lopez
commenced the conversation by saying that the ladies oil
Havana had sent him box Of jcwciry to patronage"
the cxpcditon and afterwards Czarnowky asked Lopez
many mon they had in the garrison he (opca) went to
Ii library and took map out. in four pieces and showed
" the fors in the city Of Havana; Lieut. Sehlossnger
n,kcd:-' What Kind Of a uniform will we haYeso
Q.--Who did he by VIC. [0bjcctcd 10 and ruled
proper Witncs oontinucd-Gcneral Lopez replied;-
Red jacket. black siako with feather it, and he
showed the swords lying in the II the room;
there were about eighty Of them and made the remark
w said he would form cavalry Of uunga,ians
that he had three hunde four hundred unearians,
in addition to his force he would be sure 20 take the
iland; asked Kim II hc would show the place wher0
W would lad hc would not tell; tho conversation
wa IN French; understand some French Lopez said
will secusc f,tlerlaid In Cuba; Mr. Schlessnger
was pessnt knew him before lived in tho same house
with him then.
u.Negc ssrvicsf engaged for q military oxpedi-
~. Cutting objected q Che question
Gid Lopez Schlcsinge,. or the other parties CO.
| gage your scrNiccs IN any why!
Mr Van Buren, objected 70 the question utterly ire
| l,yant to the d,stnt.ats.
| Mr. Cutting the side, urged that another
point Of objection that hs Conversation took place
~ new Orleans aud consequently out Of the jurisdiction
eft Southern district Of the State OF New York.
Nh. Hoffman couendod that no matter where a
piacy connected tho parties shown to be conferat
81 are each liable fo the acs and declarations Of tho
others. lie referred Ia Greenlcaf. vol J. p. 80.
The District Attorney beard in support OF the ad
instability and cited from the opinion OF tho Judge Of
tc Crous Court The argument to luash the indict
mont. MIR. Van Buren, and Mr.. Cutting replied at con-
siderable length and tho District Attorney closed the
argument the part Of the United States, and tha
Judge reserved Ls decision until morning Adjourned
till ioj4 o'clock friday (this) morning
FIFTH DAY.
Manor ls-Iho Judge remarked that he had seen it
ated ~ the papers mat be had announced yesterday,
hat h. consulted with the Judge (Bcttsl who presdes
Nor this district This Judge Belts is in
Washington; aud what he (Jndgc Judsoa) did gy
that he hiroD ud with the circuit judge Seson) who
at present III this city His honor then proceeded TO say
in deciding llc question discussed last evening have
only TO remark tla in the present stage % the case
hal only permit To- Dc given In evidence cations at
he New Orta mce.iU': were had while or both
thee defendants were in the meeting aud the testimony
m't he rcttrcted t. the I'D god expedition New YORK.
h conversations nj TINT meeting regarding any other
ltuon thfn this arc excluded. unless they refer to and
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