New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1852-05-08

ESTEEMED FRIENDS: In your SEMI
Weekly paper for April observe reference to
the Shakers. For the liberal sentiments which
you have been pleased TO give utterance we wish
you to accept our gratitude
We have but one exception to make to that ar
ticle and, with your permission, propose to lay
few thoughts before yourself and your upon that
point, viz "They ought to vote"
On this question you think make one grave mis-
tske the consequence of which is exposure UNI
armed to many petty annoyances, etc. We think that
II il were possible for US TO leave principles of
the question: and to avail ourselves of this kind of
NOR it would fit any better than that of King Saul
did the stripping David and that while mig possibly
shied us from the annoyances of which you speak, it
would also subject to many others quite unweL
come; such being logged by petty ofceseekers and
interruptions demagogues for our support, with the
promise Of looking after interests, etc. These how
YER are merely the incijentafs The main question is
invested with much importance in estimation
It's principle that neither feel at liberty to pocket
l Tor override.
Allow me- then to state the position which faith
ais upon to occupy relative to those who do not
ito separate themselves from the world in support of
/ he same feiib My friend will doubtless bear wit
l ess that Jesus OF Nazareth whom claim
l reat leader and founder, not of the world
that he chose his ples OF the wOrdand there
ore biz Kingdom not of this world therefore
il subjects would not fight As TO their physical To-
atty they as much within the limits OF the Roman
Empire alter before receiving this call What, then,
cid their separation consist in Obviously in entire
,epar.on from all of those institutions and practices
not in keeping with the peaceful order of that Heavenly
Kingdom whose subjects they were chosen to become.
| Therefore, they would not fight The Empire of
Rome ike all other earthly governments. was sup
ported by the sword. The war element has been
an essential element in the construction of all earthly
governments TO support those governments is to sup
| port that element.
F,sncbi,e in support of the IT, s. Government assumes
his due share OF all the blood shed by that Government
| though he may never a sword In his life.
presume that my friend will agree with me that
founder was every way qualified TO establish kingdom
adapted to the perfect regulation and management OF its
subjects This being admitted they OF course had no
Egypt needs help from them And would you have us
turn Egyptians In order to furnish the desired aid TO
do this would be to surrender the entire work to the
enemy In all kindness and frankness we say to you,
Nav we cannot leave the great work in which
engaged to go down help you to support your earthly
governments But if you want our help you must come
to US submit the pure and peaceful laws OF our gor
Gus King and we viii most cheerfuly render you all
needed assistance. 49, -
This has been the great mistake of the Church during
the past che has neglected or abandoned her high and
glorious calling and sought alliance with earthly
powers and the result, may now be seen wherever
we turn our eyes is that like Samson, she has been
ehorn OF her strength and Is as poweress as them
selves. ;.
Suppose friend Horace had been solicited, during his
tour among the rickety monachies of Europe during
the last year. to pocket his principles as Republican
and to assist in PrGRPpg up and supporting nose Orns
what indignation woudhe have repealed such solicita
ton Similar is condition relative to the question at
issue.
Perhsps shall be better understood by saying that
we regard the system of government which has been
established among u.s. as perfectly adapted to make US
only peaceable and quiet citizens of any government
regulated by the principles Of justice and right but Ike
wise to effect the redemption and proper development
of spiritual nauresthat part which is really the
For ourselves, therefore, need OF these
earthly governments. But for those who do not pos
the light and not obeying the faith which the
Shaker supports some other government is necessary
AS to the kind that matter for each individual TO
decide for himself SO far as he may be able
A proclaimed by the founders Of this Republic,
most firmly believe, that the bepe6cent Creator has
dowed the entire human with certain inslenabl
rights Each ndyidusl is therefore bound by certain
inmutabe laws to treat each and every other individual
es brother and to respect those rights and mmunite,
in HE fellow which he would have others respect in
himself The same law is also binding upon govern.
ments, and the government that fails recognize and
secure those rights Is pirate against Humanity and ut
terly unworthy of the high reosed IN it. Excuse
if have employed that are too severe the
idea seems to me to be correct and that Is what desr,
to have received.
As people grateful that our rights and priv
eges are protected to that extent that we now enjoy
them in this State, and thr ughout the country And
trust (and may not say confidently hone that the
progressive spirit Of the age will soon lead the good
people of the Empire State erase from their statutes
those laws the ndency Of which Is TO restrict the lust
and inalienabe rights Of peacesble and inoaensve
people. | would chsriaby hope that they do not con-
slider an honor to their State to have their statutes
HRs Orr0mtRtcd
To our perceptions there is an inevitable necess;.v
for Code chosen people to sustain separate relation 10
the rest ofihe human race much 90 ss that the
mountain torrent should descend to the valley From
the time Abraham was called to leave the land of his
fathers and TO eoourn in strange land this principe
has been binding upon them violation of this priip
ciple has invariably been followed by its approximate
penalty. The history OF hs postehty furnishes most
striking Illustration OF this point As already binted
neither have the professed followers of Christ fare3
any better What security have We then, we follow
in their wake Can we nationally expect to stand on
ground where u, al others have islleni Nay nays the
the OF y true path o safety. And, surely nv friend
eapnot blame us for obeying her sweet voice
fraternally thine, GEORGE
Remarks.
we 90 not propose TO go over all the
ground taken IN the above, but only touch few
salient points.
l. George says We [Shakersl need no GOV.
emment'' We answer, lie is mistaken: The
Shakers do need and are daily and most bepef.
Gently protected by the civil power Abolish il.
ana 'heir ample, inviting boards would very soon
become the prey of the indolent, reckless and
prof'ga'e scoundrels who would delight in feeding
ana clothing themselves SO easily. Government
per Sc Is SIMPLY the mutual agreement of the hon
es', Industrious and frugal to protect each other
"s"ins' 'he ropacity and violence of scoundrelism.
H"o'Sn civil government, and Industry would be
iony' property only peril to its owners, and
."as'"y tue unprotected prey of INSCRIPTIONS
Leehcfy' While any portion of mankind shall re.
man as deprased and vicious as millions notori
ousi! are Society without government is impossi
me- and ITS general reputation would plunge the
human Mace INTO the lowest depths Of Barbarism
we shail have more faith in the well-considered
eafnestness Of No-l;oyenmen, mo, ,,,o, ~. coo