The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-03-30

ed necessary TO be built there al this time by the Navy
Department; Ii
Provided Asss TIA, the buildass ha.S Sb p Jam
as with the exception o. the money paid iot 'h0
shall not exceed 1600.ooo." II
NV object is to have the work conform 10 pan1Iho'
to give our officers the authority for making an
ment upon any scale which may suit thci fancy M ~
which may be deemed best IN Their discellon, anao
Senate will observe that this will leave the matlef open
for future additions hereafter the necessity ior ihess
additions develops itself-as find Qf we should
fad D that these basins and ALWAYS arc .,as1i.S
stone dock there at once we can do so hereafter, pI
at present. when come TO consider what Is Absolutely
necessary 10 establish yard there-when we come 10
consider how expensive will be TO erect any oil lhese
buildings California, how necessary Is 10 ueaa WIN
caution in relation to these es'aolishmehlsIWnieh We
prudent course would be 10 conhne The Secretary OF e
NAVY 10 such plan will bring the expenses wllhn
S5ooooowhch mark YOU Is ABOVE owe u. ne hsug onis
Sio6 600 Ii is also exclusive OF what may nave 70 DC
paid for the site Of the ground upon winch lhese W.,
movements are TO be made the honorable senator
rom California [Mr. Gwnl will consent TO this, Tor
one am willing to vote for IT, believe they ought 70
have navy yard in California, and believe II ought 10
MI GWiN / wish to cay a few words in reply 10 The
senator from Virginia, Mr. HUNTER The amendments
proposed think adopted would DC ,sa 70 nv o 80
[ must say that have some cause TO complain OF ,he
senator from Virginia Mr. HysrER Tor the course mat
he thinks proper pursue IN reference TO inns bii was
in favor oil the plan that he has himself
that we should pass law authorizing the establishment
Of this hayward, and make no APPROPRIATIONS un.li s
eyaminalion had been made and sent in But the senator
opposed that pan and his suggestion, altered the bill
as it came from the COMMITTEES. -. ,n ..
Mr.. HUNTER. objected to The Dill because ~ con-
Mr GWiN. Certainly; put in no appropriations be-
cause wanted these estimates first, and we could make
them as well at the close OF the session introduced
The bill without an appropriation because wanted TINS
board of officers 60 there and make this examination
and send back the ne senator ea s gro
duced without an appropriation. The Committee on Ma
val Affairs obvatc this objection inserted an appro-
praon and now the senator objects because there IS an
appropriaon in the bill without estimates, when we
originally proposed to pass the bill without them. and
then have the appropriation and estimates Ana now ne
gets IN and reads here from report made woyears
ago about The prices OF lumber in California That may
have been then; have seen $500 paid or thou
sand feet of lumber there myself But everything has
Now. the argument of the senator from Virginia Mr..
HUNrEn] is this that because costs money to create
these dcfences Tor California therefore everything must be
postponed except temporary deenccs must DC
temporary announce to the Senate that there is not at
: this moment single gun mounted at the bay OF San
Francisco and any power at war with the United States
can go there and take possession of that country Tor we
have no deences there This bill introduced for the
purpose of establishing deences for that country know
they will cost great dea and the know il the
BETTER If it is too expensive to create deences Tor that
country. know il costs great deal, and am IN favor
of economiZng the money OF the country as lar as pos.
sibe But is the country worth preserving II so, then
should not stop TO estimate the amount TO defend
n before resolve 10 create neSe NOW, as
il CARDS the proposition 10 limit this matter TO $4,000
II undertake TO say here now and the future VIII prove
what say be true, that officer OF any repectabIly
will ever propose unless you put in this bill and make
imperative, build pier there OF anything but stone
It We have stone pier being constructed at Pensacola
n which s about half built, which will cost 800 oo
when il is done The gentleman speaks OF the rise and
fall of the tide. should like 10 know where The tlds
does not rise and fall He seems 10 be very conversan
with the there The tide rises there about egh
90 feet or very little than New York AS 10 TN
difficulty which the senator speaks OF, as 10 the Location
there account of want OF water why we have doze
% places that deep enough IL is not question oil how
~ much water for have dozen good locations, wher
90 The from so 500 feet deep We have plenty
everywhere aud the only question is 10 select on
90 of the many good places think this limitation 10 Gu
n down the appropriation will defeat the whole matter
tie We had similar limitation in regard to our custom
r house, and have not been able 10 put up with an
degree Of despatch and we shall have to ask asssanc
U. before il is finished
thing about these docks and want to say word or tw
is in relation this subject While in the House of Repre-
senatves, eight nine years ago, voted Tor III
as dock had been impressed with the opinion that Il wa
a matter of economy and profit for the government 81
;, confess that somewhat shaken in my opinion
~ the remarks OF the senator from Pennsy Mr. BRoI
HEAD and have since then given some attention and e,
to animation TO the facts OF the they exist thin
may be able possibly, If the Senate will give me the
attention for few moments to explain some OF the STATE
ia mcns which he made and show that there is not th
discrepancy between the proposals and the expense
n which might have been supposed TO exist from his
IT. marks The honorable senator read the memorials
Dakin Il Co come seven or eight years ago, and make
o. the proposed of the docks and basin which they
at ered TO contract for and build in their memorials abo
e. one half OF what they actually received. Not TO in
ne minute figures it is sufficient to show that there is SON
IL explanation to the proposed, which the senate
pr supposed was about half OF what actually n
III ceived think that j, will be seen, by reference he
m memorials that they related TO the OF the docks
or they then constructed by the government, to wi
al the dock Norfolk and the dock at Charesiown, MAJ
ms sachusets. 1t will be found, by reference 10 Il
a. documents that the length OF these two docks WI
/ 2l0 feet. by breadth OF so feet-making
gh 900 square feet and il upon that basis and
e construct docks OF that dimension, that the proposal
n the memoalists made. But since then, and stint
the adoption OF steam marne has been found TIL
he these docks altogether incompetent and inadequate
take in these large vessels and the government, Their
fore, instead OF contracting for docks containing
ot OF $4,000 feet, have made change, and contract
docks OF $50 feet in length by 900 in breadthgvDg
area OF 500 feet Thus il makes the capacity OF Il
he docks which the government actually contract for near
w three mesor 81 all events more than two-and- a ha
sh mesha, for which the memoriaisis proposed TO cor
e- account for the increase OF price mentioned in u
IL memorial. Let il be borne in mind that the doc
for which they proposed TO contract OF an
RI of $500 eet while the docks at Kiery Philade
ny phia, and Pensacola OF OF 81 500 feet II
have the figures Iight that dock built under Il
present contract has oil two and half times tn
of the original doak. So much for the apparent di
crepancy between the price received and the price pr
he posed to be had.
ny Then there is another fact. think gentlemen mi
It. understand somewhat the capacity OF these docks
We their usefulness We have not a single place upon II
IN whole Pacific for docking vessels III OF the