The daily union., 1852-05-11
SENATE.
COLLINS LINE OF STEAMERS.

r.Ssd on Friday, the 7th inst,l #a uE
Wr BADGER said /: ldesire TO submit some observa.
lions upon tins amendments and as no other gentleman is
Isoosed l,. TO say anything. will do il now. ,4g
XIV friend from Virginia Mr.. HUNrERl took occasion
e other day 10 remark that he Stood almost alone upon
II not all, OF those who have partici
sd n The debate having taken part IN support OF the
rsndinr amendment But my friend should have re-
smbeied thai ii in number he is but in force he is
host He stands amoog us here like Achilles upon the
Mains OF Troy, driving whole baltalions before him, and
,auiring The concentrated energy OF mighty army to
,,sst his advance; and therefore he must not be
unsed IT, when he opposes, many OF us must think It
necessary thai we should supPort-wei knowing that
h The weight and force OF his reasoning and the IN
Saspce OF his position and the keen aud skilfal dextety
If reasoning by which he is always able to make the
worse the better reason-considering these things 1t IS
absoluey necessary up all our force IN order
10 insure that TO the amendment which We be-
jeye It's Intrinsic merits require. tgd sA
Nv friend was pleased 10 say yesterday, in refer
epce 10 remark made by the senator from New York
mi SrwARpl as to the narrowing influence produced
upon the mind by occupying he position as chairman OF
be Committee on Finance. that II the suggestion ot the
senator from New York was correct II wculd be perhaps
abappy thing place me al the head OF that committee,
as snch narrowing influence might not be amlss upon
what be supposes be the profase hberay OF my dis
position 80
OF INV occupying the distinguished position which the
partiay OF ny friend has assigned me- In the first place,
lido not belong the right side OF this house TO assume
the direction o. any committee am much better placed
10 trailing pike under the command of the honorable
senator from California Mr.. GwIN,l to whose commit
lee Ion Naval AHairs] have been assigned. And the
experiment made, Mr. President by the distin.
gushed gentleman who is now the presiding officer OF
this house, placing at the head OF committee
IN this Senate, and important committee it was. too.
He made chairman of the Committee on Enrolled Bills;
and whether that discharged my duties in that high
and important position badly. or neglected them SO
much, my friend from Mr. CAssl suggests,
discharged them 80 well and was critical and careful
about The phraseoogy OF our aws-whaeyer might have
m have Jnatc sfa nd
THE nexl session was summarly displaced from the
position Of chief command and put where was but a
private soldier. 4 am by no means ambitious OF assu.
ming that station which my friend from Virginia would
assign but he will permit to say, that If placing
al the head Of that comnee would have the mar
rowing influence which he supposes, by parity OF reason
ngby equal force OF reasonngit seems 70 me that he
ought 10 leave the situation he has assumed for know
gentleman in Ibis house in this county, OF bis high
Intelligence and large views who needs liberalzng mere
an he does in regard e The public expenditures Of the
country Tor great and noble objects. 1s ftsf.a8.B
The question submitted for the consideration OF the
Senate 10, we all admit aqueson OF high and control
Ing importance II has been said, in the Of this
dscusson. that the between these lines has
now become anaona contest between this country and
Great Britain. Sir, desire 10 amend that statement.
from the very moment of the institution OF the Collins
Inc il national contest II has not recently
Sned that character; it has always borne H. The
Tlse was very far indeed from being in fact or from
ks regarded by the country mere contest between
no iival companies OF shp-owners II was one great
the seasor superiority everything that belongs TO
strength and speed eecua power and success, for
and for commercial purposes-whlch long has been, and
ever must be, the mishes contest between this country
and Great Britain. Now, SIR after having entered upon
this peaceful, and at the most important debate
the question presented for the American Congress
whether we shall dsbonorably retrace our steps
whether, when the hand just stretched seize the
OF victory we shall voluntarily forego all our ad
anlages. retire from the high. eminent position we now
occupy IN the eyes OF all the civilized world, and voun
fastlv hat hfap nd raaf
Britain would without any hesitation, sacrifice hundred
hmes the amount OF money which is involved IN the
question under consideration BY the Senate. We
are reduced to that position. We must do one oil
three thingsi We must either aaord the aid which is
now asked by this company and which this amendment
proposes 10 give; or we must enforce upon this company
he performance Of the contract entered into with this
govenrnen TO the utter ruin oil it's members; we must
permit thai line 20 down, and permit Great Britain TO
b. BY the acknowledgment OF The world, the first not
only IN naval power, but in naval enterprises IN national
sympathy Tor her glory and 10 take position above
Us BY voluntary reuea,, which, In fair conflict,
heexperence of three quarters OF century has shown
she obtain by skill and power Of her own
have said that do OF these three things
and is il not manifest that Of The three must be
done3 is proyed-i, is not sabec oil debate-- does
mol depend upon minute speculatons IN arlhmeiic--t
cannot even be necessary 10 resort 10 The square root OF
ny friend iron Kentucky Mr.. UsDERwooDl 10 resolve
- proved by distinct, clear, unqu estonabe, swotn
esmonylhai the running OF this Collins ne upon The
present rate OF compensation has brought for twenty
eghiups an average loss Of nearly $1,000 each up TO
zoe company. Now, II requires nothing 10 be said 10
snow than IS impossible that this ae can be kept up
and maintained upon the present rate OF compensation
with the loss which must necessarily be thrown upon
me elnleigent, enterprsng, wealthy patriotic citizens
BY whom that line has been established Gentlemen may
y and The honorable senator IRON Virginia has said that
mere no necessity for this increase OF compensation
SrAllemeh may say, and gentlemen may think that the
me can be run aihe present rate OF compensation and
WI De run at the present rate OF compensation. what
gentlemen say SO, and II genlemen thlnk sol They
ave greatly deceived The members oil that company
are now bearing heavy contributions upon their pnvale
Onds to meet daiyrecurTng deficiencies, so large thai
squarter oil OF them accruing persons OF
oaay ability would crush them, and which there is no
Company, however able, that can long sustain.
References have been made 10 the rate OF compensa-
uon and assistance afforded by the British government 10
e Ianaid line, and II has been attempted TO be shown
.nathe rate Of Compensation given is less than what
proposed TO be given by this bill to sustain the Collins
me Well, suppose II do not all kno y that
m e expenses OF maintaining line consisting OF steamships
end n0 so much upon the number as upon The size Of
lhe vessels employed in the operauonl Why, no doubt
ny inend IRON Virginia is right in saying that could
MAINTAIN dozen steamers, and send them across the
ocean not merely upon wenysix but npon hfiy trips, al
Ih tss expense Than is incuuedby the Collins line, even
ae present rsle oil compensation. What IN expenses
mso depend upon the SIZE OF the vessels engaged
me what is that SIZE? Why, sir, there are ouf Col
s steamers, and there seven Cunarders but the az
egae tonnage of foor Collins steamers exceeds the az
sgae tonnage OF seven Cunarders by more than ihou-
Mt HUNTER Are there not nine Cunsrders
mt SEWARD. There are but seven. e.st
MI BADGER. Itis, therefore, no accurate mode OF
ocedlng 10 ascertain what amount OF expenditure may
needed, aud therefore what amount OF aid must be
n oell US either the number OF ships or the number
uhps You must take in connexlon with them the re-
Ge SIZE OF the vessels employed. Why, IN lew years
wear and tear OF these vessels, and the outlay required
Thepurpose OF keeping them aAoat, amount TO actu