The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-02-27

wnMe however ner MNeety's government cannot con-
at request OF foreign to propose
change in the laws Of England they would not only
gret, but would highly condemn any attempts the
part OF foreign refugees in England excite Asurrecon
against tho of their respective countries
such conduct would be considered BY her Msjssty's
government a. fragrant breach Of the hospitality which
The attention Il her Msssty's government will con-
tnue to be directed to the Of foreign
refugees in this country and they will endesvor by
every legal to prevent them from abusing tho hos
pitsy 80 beraly accorded to them by the British
and alliance with Great Britain.
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lam 60, GRANVILLE
The New Reform Bill or England.
THR EXPOSITION or THE PRIME MINIsrER-THE
ENGLISH AND UNITED STATES GOVERNMENTS.
MONDAY, Feb. o. 1852
The Speaker took the chair shortly before four O'Clock
FKAR0Us 0'coNSoR.
The SrEAKER announced, amidst much laughter, that
be had received letter from Ar Henry the Bow street
ste stating that he had convicted Mr. Feargns
O'Cornor a charge Of assaulsing peos constable,
and sentenced him TO seven days imprisonment
THE NEW REFORM BILL.
LORD JoHs KusskLL then ros, to move Tor leave to
Of Parliament and to amend the Laws relating to tho
presentation of tho people The state OF affairs he sad
In which he brought this motion forward ought to be
satisfactory to the house and to the country usar,
hear During the last four years had wonder
full changes on the and during period
this country had been tranquil and loyal and many sp
dangers had been avorted by the spirit
Of the people themselves 1t appeared therefore, that
this proper time for considering whether any far
ther extension could be given to the right OF voting
consistently with the principles Of the conosuton the
prerogstive Of crown, authority OF Parliament,
and the tights and liberties Of the people Thcre were
persons who said that they ought rahcr to wait
for agitation and that it better TO lesslate upon
subject of this kind when tho passions of this people had
been raired; but he totally differed from that opinion
He thought 1t was desirable 60 mako any amendment
In the stato Of the representation 1t we'll to consider
the change In time Of pesce and tranqulity-to
cede s reward for past good conduct rather than to
, make It, ss II WERE upon compuson he b.lieyed,
this question. 1t had been asserted but without foun
dstion, that 1t merely the spur Of ths momeat
when being pressed by m orou whch was last year
carried gave notice that he oud bring rh, subject
und erthe consideration of the House this session Now
80 a from that being the case it was stated BY him so far
hack l84S, in to the honorable member for
Monrose that he thought the time rapidly approach
ing whom ths further extension OF tho franchise might
be again considered and deberaed upon by Parliament
1t then thought that 1t would not BIS advisable
bring in suoh measure and when the subjec. dis
cussed last year In the cabinet the for postpone
again eutweghed those for its muediate produc-
ton That postponement however, subjected the govern
ment to these In opposing such mo-
it must giving for thcir postp onemen
be- supposed to be ealing its real intention and thus
appear be forced to do somstning which had
meant to do; In stating general intention the
subject it might te accused of causing apprehension
expects tion to what the details Of
we're to be This alternative although at enaed with
Inconvenience he had preferred. Having stated thus
much he thought 1t would bs convenient 1t the nouss
would review along with him the measures which hsd
he did not to into tho general priacples of
representation but he believed 1t pretty well agreed
that the claim to the franchise in every individual
which could not be suppressed, the object to bs
gained being always good government. In celebrating
the means Of obtaining the farest OF repre-
senton they must always bear in mind the poraDce
OF tie functions which this house exercised equeed
in modern times, and scarcely by any ancient
In referring the proceedings with respect th. repre-
sentation OF that house they found taat in 1884, Nj
Pitt brought forward general motion which was sup
ported BY Mr. Fox and IN 1855 brought forward plan
hy vi he In law do "a IN
thirty Elk small boroughs the members for which pro-
posed to supply by the Of
ties Thi plan founded idea Of Lord Chatham.
That plan, however, rejected. In 1850 Mr. Flood
brought forward MEASURE proposing an addition or one
be had NOT chsngsS bis opiHion he did not think
time for the discussion OF the subject la 1872 Lord
Durham proposed to divide tho county, Into districts put
brought forward proposition to take hundred MEM
bers from the sma boroughs from each and 20 add
Of these sixty to counties and forty to the borougos
Tho noble lord then detailed the various Propositions
which preceded the passing OF the Reform act, ami
which eventually formed the ba.is which it found
ed Those who supported the Reform bill did not shrink
from asserting that therewould still be great number
Of borouehs with small population, which would not,
but might be the Of returning members who
well qualified to inform the house great questions 1t
gone disfranchising boroughs which rep
resented by important class Of members lie (Lord
RusselD thought that II there were mono but
members for counties ana f large cities and towns, IL
would be impossible to say the country could be fairly
represented Fer instance none would be elected for
counties except those who generally known for
their long re,idence their connection with
them; and large ces other places would not return
members except they represented ths popular opinion Of
the day Thus many valuable members would be exclud
ed and the completeness OF the would bs
destroyed (Heal, hear Other nations had enaeAvosed
Me United States possessed pocer for the formation Of
ezecutpe body veh was T e7ond that eaeci'd BY ne so
,s,hs sis" :. s % sS"sy y eoas s f rs @ sss
coud sesc pysons who represented policy Of rhch he
approved Now, the House Of Commons exercised con.
that respect the executive lie held thers-
fore that they would the balance Of the consti
tuition in this country they to say that none but
counties large cities and should voice
in the Nothiog but absolute necessity
should induce them resort to the practice Of drsa
chisement itsppeared to him. as he hsi stated ors
than that nothing but such absolute necessity
should induce them TO resort to an arbitrary dsfau-
chisement; and what they proposed therefore was sim
ply to dsranchse OILY in cases OF proved corruplcn
The second bill which he should bring 10 would
prspoee that there should be considerable change ia
owned be thought considerable damage this
matter by The adoption OF the Granville sct which ena
bed parties TO go before COMMITTEES win counsel and
stAte their case between ard Is, and waethsr
ana succeeded 1t was OF Nttie importance as ths
question DO longer party dispute in which |
the house and the public at large could take interest
At length, however, Mr.. Sheppard drew attention |
the subject he obtained thanks OF the house
for having got rid OF somo portion Of the corruption
which then prevailed; but tbess atters were now
tried the inquiry tsrunetsd with the SUCCESS cr deeat
Of either side There the Inquiry finished apd no fdr-
the benefit OF the whole community Now, what he pro-
posed TO do that upon address Of this house
based upon any reason-it might be port Of an e!eo
tion committee 1t might DO me report OF select CON
mittee-or 1t might be common fame and general re-
puteit should be lawful for he crown to appoint aeon
mission which commission should resort to the borough
and have the same means of inquiry which mad been
lately exercised with such in the OF
et. Adams BY this mode he conceived hsy would Oh
tain evidence sufficient In macy TO enable them 70
resort to Acknowledgement Nor did he think the other
house Of Parliament could complain Of this bacase
fore the disranc could take place, they would
be asked TO give their sanction to the step and have
the taSe opportunities this house OF forming an opn
Ion upon its expedieDsy He proposed tst the seats
now vacant from ACKNOWLEDGMENT should oe hsd up by
conierriT upon Birkenhead and Burnley ths right Of
returning member esch bat IL they d,frsnch.ed 80
Adams there would still be two vaosnSies, and those
would also have 70 be provided for He had 70 state
what they proposed to do BY this bill with regard to th.
eStension Of the frsnchise II appeared q him that
there we're grounds upon whish they could yafsiy
cede oonsiderabe extension OF the ,a. Of voting
many of the ciies ana borough5 Of The lated Kingdom
At the time Of the Reform bill In limiting the rigot OF
iup 10 a(f nst