The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-08-22


not the Char not able 10 say does not appear IN
the minutes BY unanimous consent therefore, the Senate
may consider this amendment as adopted Il simply pre-
scnbes the length and width OF the locks such is
the understanding OF the Senate. the bill Will be so en-
crossed
No objection was made. and the amendment was con-
Mr.. GWIN / have few words TO say upon this
proposition wish il 10 be borne IN mind ha' inefs -
no. only the civil and diplomatic appropriation on' y r
other equally important bills, TO be acted upon ana the
river and harbor bill be acted upon aiier we gei
through the general appropriation bill II me nver ana
harbor bill is brought up by maory "a asoi o. ~ PEI
fore the army, The navy, and the post ONCE bull u VIII
give the Senate time TO act upon the civil and diplomatic
appropriation bill. All ssk is to pass the civil and
diplomatic appropriation bill first, and then am sure
there will be plenty of time before the other appropriation
bills passed. 10 pass the river and harbor bill shall
not certainly vole for the river and habor bill as II now
stands II may perhaps be amended that can do IT,
And shall take the liberty 10 discuss it whenever it
up, regardless OF consequences But senators
make the motion, after the civil and diplomatic bill is
precedence Of the remaining appropriation bills is not
defeating this bill TO put it behind the civil and dpo
matte bill. for there are other equally important meas
Mr.. CASS i do not suppose there is member on
this floor who has not made up his mind upon this ques
lion, and 1t is question about which want no man 10
Mr.. BUTLER. Everybody has made up his mind
and the thing to be done by combination OF different
interests. The senator from Arkansas Mr. BoRLAkDl
says that remarks not made for the Senate but Tor
The public. think if 10 have discussion upon
the SUBJECT the question resolves itself into ths--whch
Of these two bills shall be postponed for the consideration
North Carolina MIR. BADcEal says he wants TO have
discussion. ~
Mr.. BADGER I said no such thing
Mr.. BUTLER. do not understand this matter. II
am 10 discuss subject and nobody is to hear IT, then
let me discuss it for Buncombe--a thing which have
never done before.
Mr. CASS. Ihave not the least idea in the world that
there is any gentleman here who has not made up his
mind upon this question It's question simply OF taking
up bill. Gentlemen may discuss Il to the day OF ludg-
meu for all care when the subject is properly before
us. Then is the time to discussit.
But do not know what the senator from South
Carolina Mr.. BurLERl means by combinaons-whetbe
TONS This very simple question, and it requires
argument suppose every senator has made up his
mind and don't want any argument 10 determine me
Mr. BADGER The senator from South Carolina
mr. BuTLERl puts into my mouth words which have
senator says say do not want 10 have any argument
about,he subject have said such thing said there
ample time for full and fair discussion of every
thing involved in this river and habor BILL in my opin
ion but said there not time enough in this or the
next session, ii gentlemen think proper to occupy the
time, not with discussion of the river and harboI BILL
but with reading old speeches, and reports, and Pes
dents messages anything of that kind. have not
said that wanted argument abouti at allque the
contrary. have no objection to any discussion of the
bill.
Mr.. BUTLER. Well, | will qualify what said.
understand the gentleman now TO say that he don't want
any such arguments as other gentlemen might think
proper TO indulge in, but only such would SEN
sible IN his estimation.
Mr.. BADGER. Not at all.
Mr.. BUTLER II they will confne themselves 10 SEN
that they shall go on bat il they go back old acts,
old reports and old speeches. he has time hear
such things Gentlemen must say sensible ihngs-such
as meet the appreciation OF the senator from North Caro-
Mr.. PRATT Mr.. President. do not think that the
remarks OF my honorable friend from South Carolina
In do sIn - AZ
He says that there combinations in reference to this
bill and that he is certain there will be majority here
sufficient TO il down the threats OF the minority
Now, MIR. President, those who in the majority upon
this question believe themselves TO be right take for
granted in reference to this bill have not read the
bill, and do not know the appropriations il contains In
regard To the constitutional power of Congress TO make
these improvements have no question. But If major
iy OF this body believe the bill TO be Ightf they be-
heye they have The constitutional power pass lit
cannot be said 10 be uDcourteous supplementary that
the will OF this majority should be carried out do not
Think therefore, that is exactly proper TO say that is
wrong upon The part OF the majority TO undertake to
carry out a measure which they desire to carry out
Now, sir II Is very clear that this bill is TO be discussed.
Whether shall vote for II or not, do not know am
not acquainted with single provision which IL contains
but Al is TO be discussed II Is supposed 10 be very i'm
porant measure. 1 believe the government have the
power 10 make appropriations for internal improvements
and If msjoyoi the Senate think proper, therefore. 10
vote Tor taking up this BILL IN order that II may be dis
cus-sd and passed, cannot see why they should not
dot.
DIR. bU LEX. wish 10 make an explanation, be-
do hot desire 10 leave any impression upon the
minds OF gentlemen unfavorable 10 my true position
say that this is bill essentially depending upon COM
bnaon of interests in different paris of the United States
and II gentlemen representing those different interests do
combine. they can carry the measure. do not say that
they may do II from OF policy that il is i'm.
pure combination But man says 10 another, you
for this and will for that and so the different
objects attained tell you that the bill has become
strong by combination OF measures, and when spoke
OF combinations | meant nothing else. BY combining
many things together they become stronger than voted
for separately.
Mr. HUNTER. hope we will have the question
taken think it is desirable that should decide this
evening what we win take up tomorrow morning, that
every member may be prepared TO act
The PRESIDENT. The question is not on taking up
the and harbor BILL but the civil and diplomatic ap.
preparation billion posponng the prior orders with that
view and II is to that question that will turn
their attention.
Mr.. DOWNS. | merely rise TO remark that | shall
vote in favor OF taking up the civil and diplomatic appro
shall vote either for against the other bill have not
examined IL and do not know what il is. made very
decided opposition to similar bill last session. but un-
derstand this Is different. But can necessity for
throwing out the appropriation bills for the purpose OF
taking up the and harbor bill now We not in
the situation in last session There is no long
recess, and II is not passed this session. 1t will come
up next Just il Is There not therefore, the
came urgent necessity for passing that bill now. And
have great aversion 10 being forced TO hasty consd
Grafton of The subject Give il fair consideration. II
may out that shall vote for il. | have not
ahmed il, and shall vote to take up the civil and d.
plomatc appropriation bill, believing that il is i'm
poant, under the present circumstances that should
act upon that preference TO the and harbor bill