The daily union., 1852-09-11

Mr.. JAMES Win The senator from New Jersey al.

Mr.. JAMES. Will the senator from New Jersey al.
low me 10 say word
Mr. WELLER I wish TO say a word. too il any fur
iher remarks TO be made | hope the gentleman
VIII insist upon his motion, and hope may have the OPP
portuniy
Mr. STOCKTON must persist in my motion If
open the door every gentleman in the Senate will
speak
Mr.. SHIELDS must appeal to my friend 10 with.
draw his motion for a moment
Mr., WELLER. an as desrous as any gentleman
that the debate should come TO close bul wish 10
say one word on the question. if any further speaking
is 10 be allowed.
appealed TO by so many friends that cannot withdraw.
The dhcully IS that il give way cannot tell how long
the debate will last.
Mr., PRATT. ask for the yeas and nays
The yeas and nays ordered.
, Mr. FISH Allow me to inquire whether. il we lay
this bill over, we will not destroy it, will not be
able TO get II up next session. hope that those who
have decent regard for human life will not destroy this
bill by side blow.
The question being then taken BY yeas and nays upon
the motion TO lay the bill The table, it not agreed
to--yeas s. nays 43-as follow:
YEAS-Messrs Bayard. Bstler. Clemens Hale, Hunter
James. Pratt and StJckton--S
. NAYS-Messrs. Adams. Achison. Badger, Bell. Borand
Bradbury, Bright Brooke Cass, Charlton, Chase, Clarke
Cooper. Davis, Dawson. Dodge Of Wisconsin, Dodge OF
Douglas 4 PG~1 MEsSn Fish Gsye Mama
Miller Morton, Norris, Rusk. Shields, smith soue, spu
ance, Sumner, Touoey, Underwood, UphAm, Wade
Walker, aud Weier-43.
Inc IREolDENl. Inc queStlOn now 10 on concur
ring in the amendment of the House OF Representatives
Mr.. JAMES. do not rise to consume the time OF
the Senate. will merely say that when the bill was
under the consideration Of this body on former occa-
sion, was absent, and that had opportunity OF
pressing my objections to il either here or elsewhere. Ii
The bill should pass in iis present shape will be almost
Impossible to comply with its provisions On The first
Monday in December, shall move that committee be
appointed with power to send for persons and papers,
and with instructions to report substitute TO the bill
now before us.
Mr. DAVIS One word have heard something said
about postponing this bill till the session. does
not go into operation till March next. Ii is indispen-
SADLY necessary that time for preparation should be al
times but If 1t should not now be passed. we shall be
compelled TO commence de next session
Mr. STOCKTON. hope the question will be taken
on the amendments separately, and ask that they be
read.
Several SENATORS. No, no. Allow the question to
be taken on all the amendments at once
Mr.. STOCKTON. The bill is a most important one ;
and II is passed at all, it should be done properly
The question was then taken separately the first
four amendments reported from the House OF Repre-
sentatives, and they were agreed to-
Mr. BAYARD. would remark, that it is very useless
TO pursue this course The amendments as read by the
secretary at the desk do not convey TO the mind OF SIN
gle senator what effect the mere insertion striking
out OF word WORDS may have upon the general pro-
visions oil the bill If The amendments be read The
Senate should be made OF their import by reading
the clauses amended. But think is far better to
take the question upon them all at once
Mr.. ATCHlSON. have word 10 say. This is
the same course mat pursued win lhe and
Dor bill; the that pursued with the civil
and diplomatic appropriation bill and will undertake TO
say that not hall dozen gentlemen beyond those who
reported the bills knew the effect OF single amendment
We knew something about the general provisions, but
nothing about The details OF those bills. What could j.
who have never been the lakes, know about the ap
propations for the barbors situated thee never
the estimates and surveys upon which those appopria
tons were mended, but was obliged TO confde
in those gentlemen who took the subject in hand We
have 10 take these things on rust and prepared TO
"a We
many others.
| Mr. BAYARD II the Senate choose 10 pass this bill
without scrutinzing the amendments OF the House all
let il be do not object much TO that But it is
absurdily-the words % insert and strike OUT
together with the amendment Of the House OF Repre-
senlalives" The OF the formula is ridiculous,
and conveys information 10 the mind OF single
ator have no objection TO concnrrlng IN the amend
menis of the House whole, If that is the wish OF the
Senate.
Mr.. DAVIS wsA to say to the senator from New
Jersey Mr. STocETosl that know he is humane man,
and that hope he will the time OF going over
these amendments one by one in this way.
Mr. STOCKTON. | am so circumsanced that could
not yield to the solicitation OF my friend from Massa
cbusetts, Mr.. DAys,l OF the gentlemen him /;
could yield 10 any solicitations IN the world but
see the utter hopeessness oi The conflict, and that my
objections TO the passage OF the bill will be OF avail
Feeling this is matter Of courtesy to the Senate that
ments separately. Before sitting down wish 10 saw a
word TO the senator from Missouri, tMr ATcHrsos He
says that the civil and diplomatic BILL and that the
narhOr Dill were DOuy upon trust.
wish say him, that take for such measures
Tor when bull comes before us for the mere taking OF
money out OF the treasury II concerns me very te ;
but when you 10 encroach the great principles
OF government, the foundation which the whole fab
rc Of human liberty rests caHnot an attempt made
TO sap single pillar without raising my warning voice
and will tell honorable senators, the words of the inn
mortal Jefferson, that "eerna vigilance s the price Of
liberlyr The auson OF my friend from Missouri will
scarcely hold good as TO this bill. now withdraw my
objection.
Mr. MANGUM. Is the question on the adoption Of
all the amendmensl
The PRESIDENT II is
Mr. MANGUM. Then, hope the question will be
taken.
The question was taken on the concurrence by the
Senate in the amendments made to the bill by the House
OF Representatives and they were agreed TO.
PROMOTION or USEFUL ARTS.
The PRESIDENT There are some bills upon the
table from the House of Representatives which will be
now taken up and read the first and second times with
view 10 reference.
The bill entitled can act in addition to an ac, for the
promotion of the useful arts then read first and
second times
Mr. BADGER | hope this bill will be considered at
this time | will make short explanation on the part
OF the COMMITTEES on the Judiciary, which will do away
There are a few verbal amendments which will sate
and then hope the bill will be put upon its passage at
once II is bill to provide for difficulty ensuing from
the prolonged illness OF OF the Judges OF this district
and IL authorizes appeals 10 be taken the district
judges in the manner they now by law taken
10 the chief judge. There several verbal amend
msuts which wish To move. In the haste OF drawing
attended TO- wish in several places where the words
In strike nd -