New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1852-11-26
NJ. Sierenson 10 Mr.. Forsyth.
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LEGATION or TIE UNITED SfAfES,
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LoNDoN, June 16 1897.
SIR: have the honor Of communicating 10 you, CON
ldcnally the result Of interview have lately had
with Lord Paimerston on subject OF very delicate
and interesting character
You have doubtless seen, both in the English AMI
French newspapers the various spccula'ions when
have appeared the subject Of large Spanish loan
supposed 20 have be- made by banker IL Paris upon
condion that France England would give some guar
antee connected with the Island OF CUBA, Porto Rico
and the Philippines Having received inioImation rom
that could rely that propositions from the
Government Of Madrid had actually been made for
loan o. six millions OF pounds sterling ami lat accnts
had been 10 Paris and London for the purpose Of
consumnaiiug the loan and negotiating with the two
Governments the subject Of the guarantee, deemed
il nv duty 10 take III early opportunity OF having an in
formal conversation with Lord PamcrsOn and accord
ingy asrweek asked an interview Tor that purpose the
result OF which now communicate
stated to Lord Psmeison that the object fmy visit
was 10 converse with hin unC.fclay ani conhdenay,
uuon the subject Of this Spani loan, and TINT hoped,
n he felt any delcccy On the subject he would frankly
say so His Ordshp at said that there was not the
slightest objection TO the course proposed and that he
would hear with pleasure anything might be disposed
TO communicate.
opened the subject by stating that presumed he he'd
seen tic notifications with wicn the French and Engsh
rspera had been filed on the subject OF this loan That
Ind good reason for believing propositions had been
made both to France and Great Britain Tor the purpose
of some guarantee connected wh TIE Islands Of Cuba
and Porio Rico Tnai, Ia the absence OF Instruction
from my Government anu ignorant O what his NJ Jesy
(,oyefumeut had done might be opposed to do, IN
relation matter tet II 10 De my auy 70 take TIC
enres opportunity OF placing bis ordsmp IN possession
Of what knew TO be the views Of my G)Yernnent on
the subecr of these islands and OF reminding him al the
course had heretofore let Itself ushei IN taxing IN re-
ltion to the subject proceeded TO give brle expa
nation OF the ceoapl c relation OF these islands, the
United States and the consequences that would be hAe
IN 10 follow their separation from the dominion OF SPAN
That the possession 81 Cuba by great maritime Power
woud be lule elsc than the establishment o. iorres
AZ the mouth Of the Mississippi, commanding DotA tae
Gulf OF Mexico and Florida, and, consequently, tne
whole trade Ui the Western States, besides deeply ahect
ing the Interests and tranquility OF the southern portion
OF the Union. That. under such circumstance Il was
not 10 be expected Oh the subject now TOR the
hrst time egitacd) ht the United states could rem an
Indifferent 70 the destiny OF CuOa, or rs separation ron
Spain remarked however, that the question wa no.
new one aud referred 10 the course OF our Govern
meut heretofore the subject reminded his i9fdshp
al the declaration made by our Minister 70 the ftehcu
Government, ia the year lc&t, that ne UHHta "aes
cOEid not sac Eh tdisreHcs Porto Rco ana Goa ~
from Spain into the possession Of any other FO inas
FrenCe ~ that time, Tar from complaining OF '.,7
course breach OF neutral duty or interefehcs VIII
the concerns Of other nations acquesced nh ItlclI ~
also, 10 the proceedings when took pace III hoA0 ~
le25-6 between the agent Of Great Britain ana me MN
ter OF the United Staes Ia which h idtnnnel huiei
In the communications received and made on tne alr
pearlnce oi French icet IN those seas. 1nai tlc7c
views ofOur Government We're made known ~ ~ 'l-
10 the Rusian Government and by 20 all ths CoIs
If Europe Under such circumstances eh )ast4nei ~
saving frankly 10 he ordship thai u was po-so.e -
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fran thc dominion Of SudiH % any Of he great m1rif.
Pox0s Of Europe tat Of the right % the Ulted cA.e7
10 interfere IN relation 10 these islands presumed tele
could be Little doubt that whcthe general rule Oh lnTc
natonsl law which iOrbds the interference OF one S-At
in the Affairs OF another freely admitted there were
vet ercspoRS ltc ruie IN rcl10R 10 he dNs Of dsc
and seifpTeseruGOn which oil nations Acknowledge
and thai the present precisely such case; tn ~
this view and with sincere desire TO guard a5h :
possible dficuities Ideemed it properto say what had
ana hoped his lord,hp would receive It in me spri ia
which II offered.
! Lord Pelmegstcn in reply said very liue. he as
sured me that he understood and appreciated the no
tvos which had produced the interview. He sti thI
the G0VernmCnt OF Spain doubt DESTROYS 70 IT
inmate their civil wan, sni he seemed q think tha
could only be done by q large loan o. money Ai--
efforts had been niude for that purpose IN the M
supposed but on cha ierrs he t0da h1d oeen P'0iy
tkdAeT hfV had tffH SEccssSfW or RCf ~ aI1 V- -
nor did think It proper TO inquire HE lOIdsmP a.
mtfod that prupo mons had been made 70 :. ~
Britain the subject OF the loan (the nature o. W.
lie DID not staic Ia; he said that they hsd oen -
d by his Majesty GJyCTumc n lie reIllr.eu ~
at the time, that the consent OF PaTiaAe4.i n
ucceslsry 10 The fulninen f any pledge OF the -
Ter suEposci and that, unler the present state o. ~.
there would be very liile probability OF any saeil
being given. tbs remark was made IA "1y = -,
lett me al liberty % draw my own c0ncln7ioi,s .
what the Government here night have heeA 90 -
10 do, Il TIE consent Of ParlaIneI could nave eS
famed IL Is proper, also, that shou4i -
thai having res-cd ia the course o. Soh' y
ton NY impression that tie course anu -!
ami that ] bad reason 10 believe tAai ste w y.
rot for moment l.s.cn 70 TIE application Wa .
had been made 70 her on the subject Lor- In -
remarked that consideration q tn. nature - -
he permitted 70 influence the conduct o. G.c 70. -
tisf H. decidrg al such questions, his VI t-rY ~,
crufnsnt could not listen 20 tie ~ nios a- 81 s % a.
frrcicu Government, hut must decide .o7 iise--'
Til remark w-s made by hs lor-siD II sool TEN
psr Ltt IT, tendency was 100 Curious - be mistaken
replied 20 thy Stating thGt NY remark 10 ~iea ~. n
an answer was entirely incide1ial and merely -
10 show ihlt tie opinions u France IN relation ~
tsd undergone no change SINCE the year $50, -
wee ia accord with thOse u tie United state - .-
LORD parucrstcn ssid nothing
A there seemed he no desire on the pait y a
lordshp II continue the Conversation AMI having AZ -
Ff.i \, cat had intended. torebore 70 press nc
P ss,ii,ct and the interview elo-ed-
] MD sh' - - A. STEVENSON.
t..Y..,,ru IA Secretary o. state WassnS'0H
John II. Eaton TO the SeeTetaTy Of STATE.
1'SrrIp STATES LEGATION AADHID, Aug ~ 49,
S,..ts MANY runors have spread concerning COM
s,sltresty between In gland and spain, llen ooAn
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