New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1852-11-15
IRELAND.


DUBLIN. Friday. Oct %. 1859.
There is something unspeakably attractive
in the sounds OF Religious Equality" especially in
these old countries, where one form Of religion nva
rably predomnatcs to the oppression dayradluon
Of the others. In some, it ia Professionalism, in Eng
land. where there ia liberation itself insult i'm
plying that the free exercise Of religion by Ds'enters
Is ansiter of favor, hot OF right, which the dominant
sect it, psronizng cover, ment might withdraw at
any time from motives of eNpedency-orin Denmark
and sweden where, according to the statements of
Mr. Lucas in his etterto Sir Culing Esrdly yet un
contradCted. that much IS unknown. In others,
is Romansm in SPAIN or Italy, where there not
only no federation for the free and public exercise o.
religion different from the established but even the
having ard reading the Bible il crime punished as
in the case Of the Madiais at Florence with long and
close Imprisonment
Be the privateOpinions or ultimate ends OF the mon
who in Ireland have set foot agitation for reli
eous equality, what they may-suppose It were ever
so clearly proved that Mr. Lucas is inconsistent in
calling for it at home while he justides intolerance
abroad or that Dr. MacTIale, while advocating the sub
veron Of the Protestant Church Establishment of Ire
land under the name OF religious equality means the
erection of Romnn Catholic its ruins that, it
had the power. would admit of no Bible reading or
Scripture schools the cause Of truth freedom OtcOn-
science and religion and Of liberty and equality in mat
ters Of faith must gan by the discussion Let The Prin
cpie once win its way into the convictions OF men, and
pure haze gained for the lever OF truth that will u
tnntey upturn the time veneraed fabric OF intoler
once and Gbsolutism. The deputation to the Grand
Duke of Tuscany for the liberation of the Midias
whether successful not, must return with the per
suason that religious liberty and equal rights are priv
ieges that ought to be deemed inalienable wherever
human beings found and some OF the said deputa,
ton are high Protestant Ascendancy men, well as
idolaers Of the Irish Church Establishment as the Earl
of Roden Deputy Grand Master of the orangemen of
Ireland and who refused the Roman Catholics OF Dun
/ dGlk a site for Chapel the ground that their
| worship is superstitious and idolatrous and even
though the Conference of the friends of religious
equality may come up TO the point 10 which Mr..
Sharman Crawford has reached who, in his letter to
the Secretaries says he would have all scots equally
dsepdowed 10 continue thenceforth unendowed-no
Establishment, orregium G0aUm, or Maynooth grant
nor would he allow any to be called Protestant or
Roman Catholic Prmate OF all Ireland Bishop ofany
place merely. of those of his sect that place-t
il impossible bat that such discussions shall leayen the
public mind with right principles and work Tor the
production oirelgious freedom.
attach very little importance 10 the rumors' with
which the Metropolitan press teems-parily the sheer
more than their neighbors and partly thrown out by
interested parties TO feel the public pulse,-about
changes in the Ministry coalitions between
the Ministry and any portion of the Opposi-
tion or among parties in the Opposition themselves
But there is enough the surface OF things to enable
us TO see how this-which may be called the irish
movement into which the Roman Catholic Clergy
hayethrown themselves fully and heartily a. into any
former one-mny affect parties whether the ms or the
outs what influence il may have on public matters IN
general and what are lie chances of success.
1t must be recollected that the appropriation OF 80
much of the Irish Church Tcmporaes as u not abso'
utey required for the support ofts ordinances TO State
purposes was proposal Of Lord John RusselIs long
ago The Roman Catholics think that as they VINO are
numerous and poor, support their own Church. tne
Proestans who are few and rich might support theirs
and 20 the whole might be appropriated But Dr.
MacIele and those who think with him. consider tha''
ss all this Church property originally saered-that
il was consccratedt religion and cherty-is the right
l property of the Roman Catholic Church. and should
he restored and that appropriate to any other
purpose would be only adding new robbery to the old
sacrilege.
The "voluntaries" in Scotland, and the Anti state
Church men in England which include the great
macs of the Dsenters in both countreswtr Sharman
Crawford and IhsNorRern HRg In Ireland, would have
the Irish Church. and all other secs support their own
Clergy build and repair their churches, and main
tain their own ordinances and this as the first stepo
similar tate Of things in England and Scotland MI
Crawford calls the Presbyterian rsgfHm d0H@" ana the
Mfynooth endowment retrbutive injustice As
bepg kind Of requita for the direct injustice Of the
Establishment.
Now Il is true that the one hand, the Protestant
opponens Of the Irish Church are not likely 70 make
common cause with the Roman Catholic "fnends OF
religious equality for there is a religious antsgonsm
stronger than their common hatred Of the Establish
rreu, and besides they say they cannot trust them
snd fear that, # they had that Establishment down.
,hey would Try 70 put @ worse one up-waieh might
lead 70 civil war in which France and all the Cathohc
Powess would join them, stthe Pope's bidding IN re-
,,Ia,cu for the Anti Titles Bill and Anti Professions
ac, 30 and in ruth Mr. Lucas and DR.. Maeiiae nave
rot commenced the agitation wisely az OConneh
vvonld have done But on the other hand, the wings
might reproduce their appropriation as Lord Iouh
in nj. mech AZ Perth plainly warned Lord DERBY
lat he Lad not yet done with L, IN opPo2tion 70 tAe
Torics whose principle Is 10 apply church property
>, ctrreh urrposes and 90 Lord Derby, when Mr..
stanley Impressed ten Irsh Bishoprick., but employ
81 heir revenues % improve The church, augment
eurstcs .alsries and repair churehes-and might ac-
cert the aid Of the Irish Party they would certainly
have that CT al tie Enesh aud Scotch reorners and
il they thus rode into power the appropriation"
they rish, cor6de in The power Of England and Scot
land TO enable them 70 twsEt the Irish Party in the
nanRar of apPr0PFiatirg
Tie OILY one besides Dir. Crawford who has yet sent
TO The Conference programme Of the "sppropria-
t.cr CT tic Church propery-were the Establish
mo-t ahol.shcd and IL revenues placed under Com
mission FER National PurpOses-s Mr. Bright. More
generous tc the sionlss, Quaker though be s than