Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1852-09-04

before said board established under the treaty of Guada
lupe Hidago."
Mr. SWEETSER desired to know if the amendment of
the gentleman from Illinois was in order In the first
place proposed to enlarge the Of the committee
IN tho second place it authorized the committee
to report to the Clerk 81 the House which was not In
formity with the rules Of tina House.
The SPEAKER overruled the first point of order and
was disposed to sustain the second
Mr. CAMPBELL of Ohio, to question of order.
The resolution under which the committee of investga
ton was constituted introduced under suspension
the rules for the specific purpose Of investigating the
connection of the Secretary of the Treasury with the Gar
diner claim and it proposed to introduce other
subjects Of investigation He made the point OF order
that this could not be done now.
The SPEAKER inquired if the gentleman contended
that it not competent for the House to enlarge the
powers of the committee?
Mr. CAMPBELL replied that it not competent for
the House do after the rules had been suspended
for specific purpose.
Mr.. CAMPBELL appealed from this decision. He did
not wish this matter to be trammelled.
Mr. HALL moved to lay the appeal the table; which
was agreed to-
Mr.. DUNCAN rose to a question of order The amend
ment of the gentleman from Illinois extraordinary,
sending this committee tonvetgate perhaps hundred
cases had been tried commission established under
the authority of that he desired to know
whether it in order to institute that examination
without dividing it into specific cases!
Il The SPEAKER stated that the Chair had just over
ruled similar point of order and on an appeal had been
sustained by the House.
Mr. DUNCAN hoped the House would see the proprie-
ty of voting down the amendment.
The demand for the previous question was then Sc
conded and under the operation thereof the amendment
of Mr.. RICHARDSON rejected e
The motion of Mr. EDGERToN was then agreed to-.
So the committee win have leave to sit in the vacation
to send for papers, and to examine witnesses
CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROPRIATION BILL
Mr. HOUSTON asked the unanimous consent of the
House to take up the civil and diplomatic appropriation
bi He said that the Senate had returned this bill with
fty-fve or sixty pages of amendments. 1t utterly
impossible that they could be examined as they ought to
be- by being referred to the Committee of Ways and
Means then reported back to the House. and next refer
red to the Committee of the Whole If this course should
be pursued the bill could not pass this session He there
fore moved that the House in the amendments
of the Senate, and ask committee of conference.
ICries of "Oh no." and !" agreed"
MIR. HOUSTON. 1t is the only course that viii save
| tine
Mr.. CABELL. object 1t will be recollected that
by this two three important changes in
law effected at the last Congress.
Mr.. HOUSTON. move to suspend the rules so as to
enable me to submit my motion.
Mr.. GENTRY. The effect Of the gentlemans motion
will be to delegate all powers of legislation to COM
mittee of conference which is certainly very ohec
tionable mode of legslating
Mr.. HOUSTON. That was the course pursued by the
last Congress
when the House proceeded consider said BILL and the
amendments of the Senate thereto.
Mr.. HOUSTON moved that the House non-concur in
the amendments Of the Senate, and ask committee Of
conference upon these motions demanding the previous
question.
Mr.. CABELL inquired upon what amendment they
were first to act !?
The SPEAKER replied they we're to act upon all the
amendments
Mr. CABELL As member Of the House, have a
right have the amendments read before am called to
vote on them
The SPEAKER replied that il was competent for the
House order the reading of the amendments. !.
Mr.. BAYLY of Virginia, desired to know if motion
| to refer the bill would be in order
The SPEAKER replied it would not, the previous ques-
| ton having been demanded.
The previous question was then seconded and the main
question ordered viz in non-concurrng in the amend
ments Of the Senate, and asking committee OF Con-
| ference.
Mr. CABELL demanded that the amendments be read.
The SPEAKER decided that they must all be read, and
directed the Clerk TO commence the reading.
/ Mr.. CLINGAlAN moved to suspend the rule requiring
the amendments to be read before voted upon.
| Mr. STUART said that rule of the House required
the amendments to be read every member had right
to have them read before called upon to vote on them
Mr. MEADE wished to know members could be called
upon to vote proposition which had not been read
| He protested against it.
/ Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania, said that he would
rather vote for oil the amendments than them all
and refer them to committee Of conference TO ieglsate
upon them He called for the yeas and nays ON the mo-
! ton of the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. HousToH.)
! Mr. EWING insisted that each amendment should be
read before he was called upon vote If the Chair de-
cided that the rule which permitted member TO call for
the reading Of proposition before voting upon 1t could
| be suspended he appealed from the decision.
/ Much confusion and disorder prevailed.
j Mr. LETCHER moved that the House adjourn, remark
ing that it very manifest they going to do no
business. The motion was negatved.
/ Mr.. CHAsTAIN moved to lay the appeal Of Mr.. Ew-
| mo on the table.
Mr.. ORR demanded the yeas and nays on the motion,
| believing it an outrageous decision.
Great confusion still prevailed, and the SPEAKER en-
deavored to keep order in vain
Mr.. ASHE moved that the House adjourn which mo-
ton was disagreed TO-
The question was then taken the motion to lay the
appeal the table, and it was deced in the affirmative
Yeas ~, nays 65.
The question required on the motion to suspend the
rule allowing members to have all propositions read be
fore required to vote upon them.
Mr.. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania, demanded the yeas
and nays the motion, which were ordered and being
taken, resulted: Yeas 55, nays 81
SO the motion was disagreed 70.
The CLERK was then about to read the amendments
when
ing the reading Of the amendments to prevent bens
called upon to vote upon
TCries Of !" Order" order" and "read."l
Mr. CABELL said that he would withdraw the propo
stion that these amendments be read with view tina
the bill might be referred the Committee Of the Who'll
on the Of the Union, to the Committee Of Way
and Means.
5 Many objections we're made.
The SPEAKER stated to the gentleman from Florid
that the rule required that the bill should be read TIL
reading could not be dispensed with without vote
3 two-thrds which had not been obtained