Hannibal journal. (Hannibal, Mo.) 1852-1853, 1852-07-15
HANNIpAI, July 9th, lS5.


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n .sl ]. HANNIpAL, July 9th, 1852.
Mr.. .. q. STRoNG, g1'rsIE .. .-l ...
Dear Sir: Yours Of the Sd inst.
was not received until this morning.
In my note Of the I'd inst, stated that unless
the terms of discussion indicated were accepted.
should consider our correspondence closed.
This sycu refuse, and send me another letter.
Ibis think very strange. ltseems that Mr..
Manlord and can have no discussion, but your
conceptions OF fairness require that you should
have the last as well as the first letter in the
correspondence, or that the correspondence
should be continued ad minimum.
Eousay make unjust and. unreasonable re-
quirements Of Mr. ManGord. This deny, and
submit the case 10 a csindid, fair minded and in
telligent community for verdict. I5a..
/. TIE time. | proposed from the 10Th to
h9 225th q August, as ~ TINS to- The discus
SION, Was there anything unjust or unreasona-
bic In this? Ii SO you never intinated it nyour
acceptance. n
2. !HePlace. proposed St. Louis as the
place for the discussion.
Was there anything unjust or unreasonable in
this? You think that as my series Of discourses
on future punishment was delivered here, the
discussion should be here. | consented if it
could bemade to appear that MIR. Manford had
never preached or teetured to his congregation
in st. Louis upon future punishment, or upon
tue holinessNnd happiness Of all men, to debate
with him in Hannibal; but If he had leetured up
on those subjects in St, Louis, deemed it fair
TO take the discussion there, especially as was
the challeHgedpurty. 4,-..s ,..f
3. The propositions. Mr. Manrord laid down
IOlIr tlrnC pF Nrhi,h i,,,-,1,,,l
same main issue. ask was this fair? Was
there ever a public controversy in which the
propositions thus mingled? Whoever saw such
a controversy We will take the celebrated
controversy between Campbell and Rice as an
example. They discussed six propositions, but
the issue Of each was separate from the others
would not consent to discuss Mr.. Manford's
propositions as presented, but selected one of
them, which presented the main issue, and with
mere verbal alteration, 10 cut oil all clubbing
proposed TO discuss it,. Next | was presented
two propositions, presenting the same issue; this
regarded as mere triaing. ,..- , ..,,i
10 show that the proposition | was willing to
discuss with Mr.. ,liantord was a fair one,
will present it by the size Of the one discussed
by Messrs. Waller and Pingree., My proposi-
ton was; Do he Scriptures teach thai all man
kind iciu beJRaliy holy and hapyy"
Theirs was: " DO Tie Scriplpreg teach The al
HDlaie holiacss and Saicaiion Of all ,aca 4"
The issue Of these propositions is the same:
the final holiness and happiness Of all mankind
MessEs. Waller and Pmsree thought it just and
reasonable to discuss this proposition, but il
woud DC very unjust and unreasonable for Mr..
MenIord and myself todiscuss it! r ... ..
Now ! submit il TO the candid, if in oil this
treated Mr., Mapford uniusuy, uhreasonably, or
even unfairly? The proposition that agreed
to discuss with him was, in substance, present
cd by himself, and has been regarded by able
debatants on bis side Of the question as present.
ing fairly the main issue between us.
q l'ut the place; Oh, the place Mr. Mpnrord
had fixed his heart upon coming 10 Hannibal 10
agitate his doctrine; and 10 be disappointed-O, !
how cruel How unjust for me to carry the
war into Africa; TO. accept his challenge and
meet him in his own congregation
Mr.. Manford reminds me of some school boys
mat have known, who would pounoe upon am
other boy, and taking all under holds, would en-
d,eayol to trip him up; but if the other boy
claimed equal rights he would Immediately re-
treat, crying foul play.
You can assure Mr.. Manford of my high
consideration, and inform him that, as he has
thus backed out, cannot consent TO debate with |
llm under any circumstances,
@ Yours respectfully,
w. M. RUSH.
SERVICES OF GEN SCOTT.