The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-07-15

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cial committee.
Alderman PECK, twentieth ward,) rose TO order.
The motion pot deba'able.
The PRESIDENT ruled bat it was not, and the
question was about to he put, when,
Alderman SruRTEvAHT. Third ward,) explained.
He voted mo- TO give them opportunity to dis
cuss it, but would he happy It should be laid on tho
table, and would afterwards move that u be-
Question put and lost on a division-P Peek, Comp
ton and D0hery voting IN the affirm alive.
Alderman FRANCIS would explain the position ho
stood in
me, ask in connection with that, TO present pa
per to the board, and let it be read II IL were not
a respectful eommu to treat j. accordingly,
but he asked that 1t b. read.
Alderman SruRrsvANT-The Alderman OF the
Eleventh ward wants 70 present paper "a connec-
ton, and we have sufficient guarantee that it is a
respectful one in the character and respecta0ihty
of the gentleman himself
Tho PREsIDENT--lf there is no objection, the
Clerk will proceed 10 read 1t.
Alderman WARD would lsk whether it was
communication a resolution.
The PRESIDENT did not know the contents OF it,
il was offered in connection with the other
The CLERK then read the paper, in which Alder
man Smith rendered bis resignation as Chairman of
the Committee on the Fire Department, nnd asked
that Alderman Dennan be appointed in his stead.
This produced some sensation and slight laughter,
amids. which.
Alderman DrNMAN moved that the paper last
read be laid on the table
Alderman SMITH hoped that il would he ac-
copied He bad stated TO the Alderman OF the Six
teenh that there statements in that preamble
that were false, and had shown him how they were
false, and told him where he could ascertain it for
HIMSELF and still he persisted in presenting 1T TO
this board and making it public Under those CHI
custances he desired to offer his resignation.
Alderman STURTBvANT-Fhous ht the request
went too far; he not only resigned, hit asked to
appoint his successor, which was entirely the pro
vince Of the President. It would be sufficient that
he resigned; and that step he (Aldcrman Sturte
much ed a. there
Der of the board competent to perform tho
duties, being wei acquainted with the habits and
feelings Of the hremeu, and he believed personally
| known to almost every one OF them IN tho city.
| He was sorry that the gentleman should feel at
trontcd at the resolution offered, which was scarcely
wor.bysof notice, aud like certain Communications
in New York papers, worth only the paper they
| covered.
Alderman TWEED, Seventh ward) hoped that
! Mr.. Smith and TIE Board would bear IN mind that
| the paper came from gentleman who. IN that roop,
/ yesterday, and in their presence admitted that a
/ report in the HERALD incorrect, and then Went
! down and addressed a com muuication to the editor
stating that il was correct. He moved toot Alder
man Smith taye permission to withdraw that resig-
nation.
Aldermen SMITH, viewing the source from whence
| it came, would Withdraw his paper. Ono objection
/ being made the permission was given and the re-
/ signation Withdrawn
Alderman DESMAN said he was sent there by his
! constituents to represent cortsin district in the
I city, and il did net concern him much TO know in
\ WDat CStlmntlOD lie YVES DeIu py CD6 RS0tlemeU OF
! that board When he presented the document be-
| fore them for consideration, he announced 10 the
board that DC did 1T the request Of the members
| of the department. As 70 the remarks Of The mcm-
Der from the Eleventh ward, he had erased what he
conceived to be offensive matter, and he now de-
/ sired, if there be any iasehood in the document,
that it be pointed out. fr during the debate thus
| fer he ha heard asserted 1t was chiefly eta
tistical and narrative of facts; and such it con-
1 tanned its own argument He had been prepared
| for some insoence. 1t was quite true he had adj
nittcd there that there some inaccuracies in
the report alluded to, but he asserted that it waS
| substantially correet
The PRESIDENT said the motion would now be or
/ the resolution
Alderman STURTEvANT wcIli now move that it
! be laid on the table
Alderman WARD, (Fiftoenth ward)-perhaps the
gentleman will give reason for laying i. on the
table. The paper. doubt, is false. We have the
assurance oil the chairman of the committee that it
il, ana there is doubt that there is truth in it.
| It first tells us tba. we have spent too much mo-
ney, and then that thoir houses tumbling
| down
Alderman STuRTEvAST had moved in pursuance Of
this notice and in courtesy to the Alderman Of tho
Nineteenth, but would withdraw his motion.
| Alderman TWEED moved that it be referred to
| the Fine and Water Committee, as the best parties
10 judge Of it, lie did not believe that !. expressed
| the sentiments feeogs OF the department. He
| had for some years been fireman himsels, and he
knew he thought what their feelings were, and il it
were referred TO the department Itself a. iarge, he
believed that two out of three votes would BIZ cast
against it, He was an advocate for al reforms and
was favorable to divorcing the freueD from politics
| altogether. The foremen were not always, indeed
never, selected to express the feelings OF the COM
Iany on such change: nor had they any notion
when they were elected that such question would
arise, they could not tell that such propo-
sition would be brought forward, wha.wa in the
womb Of time to be passed upon. He did not, there
fore, consider the foremen proper opponents of
the views ofthe department at largo. They could
not entirely be expressed on such point, through
tho fOremen and the Another nOiut
was that in such meeting the foreman Of
small company Of ton men had as much right to
vote, and as much weight. as the foreman Of enc
comprising sixty men, which s ne believed was the
and would refer this to the Fire Department itself,
individually; and if the fremen desired change,
then give it to them, but not because tbs foremen
voted for it, unless they elected for the pur-
pose Of asking such a reform, which was not the
case, and in doing so he, for ono, said that they
were exceeding the line Of their duty.
Alderman SMITH would suggest to tho members
Of this board that, the resolution required
dinance to be prepared that it be referred to tho
Committee on Ordinances, and he so moved.
Alderman STuRTEyAsT hoped that it would not
take that course. He supposed the province Of the
Committee Ordinances to be to prepare ordinances
when they were ordered; aud if this were ordered,
then let it 60 there in due course, but first get tho
direction, as it was no. their province consder
whether the ordinance ought to be prepared or not
The Committee on the Fire Department no
thought, would be the proper reference. Perhaps
the amendment would be withdrawn.
Alderman SMITH would withdraw it.
An ALDERMAN ohserved-The Comm leo On tba
Fire Department will do nothing with H.
Alderman WARD-A little while ago loud reuon-
strancos were made that the committee were doing
too much for the department.
The question in reference to the committee was
then put, and carried without division.
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