The miners' express. (Dubuque, Iowa) 1849-1854, 1852-05-19
GREECE.
SENATE.
Bills Introduced May 4th.
URSULA r. COBB.


Mr. HALE MIR. President wish to SUBJ
NIT motion to take up Senate bill No. 13l !;
and if the Senate will indulge me moment,
will give my reasons for making this request.
This is bill reported for the relief OF Ursula
E. Cobb, which passed the Senate unanimously,
and was ordered to be engrossed but when it
came 10 the engrossiag committee, that COM
mittee discovered that the committee on PEN
sions had made mistake in putting the widow
on the list o. pensions, under an act after il had
been repealed. The committee .have corrected
the error, and as it has once already been or
dered to be engrossed, l hope the Senate will
dispose Of it this morning
Mr.. HALE moved to strike out all after the
enacting clause, and insert the substitute re.
ported by the committee.
The substitute was read, which was to allow
her the same pension which her husband was
receiving at the time oe bis death, commencing
in May, lS4s, and continuing during her wild
owhood.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. This seems to be a
suitable time to settle the question whether we
shall have pensions which are retrospective in
their operation.
MIR. HALE. - move, Mr.. President, to
amend the: annend@ent by striking out "l54S,'
and inserting Sls52 a.
Mr.. JONES, Of Iowa Mr.. President,
hope that amendmept wiz not be adopted. 1t
it 10 adopted, it Will be,a departure from the ex
isting law which GOVERN. $he notion of he com
mittee on Pensions-which is to pay the pen
sioner from the time the testirhsny is completed
The committee on Pensions have adopted that
rule for themselves, and have agreed 10 give
the pension from the time the testimony upon
when their action is based is made complete
and think the rule is fair one. II is nothing
more than Justice that the person who is enti-
tied to . pension shall be paid from the time he
does his duty in showing to Congress Why he
il entitled 10 pension. As that is the uniform
rule of the committee, hope it vii, not be
departed from in this instance. | hope the
senator from New Hampshire will withdraw his
amendment.
Mr.. HALE. offered it because wanted
to help her to get part of her pension If tn, re
was objection TO paying the whole.
Nh. UNDERWOOD Mr. President, when
we had this subject up the other day, the chair
man Of the committee on Pensions did not avow
this rule which he has now announced as being
the rule which had governed the action of the
committee on Pensions. My objection to pay
ing the pension heretofore was that were
about to make different lie from that which
prevailtd now in determining these cases but
il it 10 understood that we are to place them
upon the same footing, aud our action is TO be
precisely that adopted at the department, have
not word to saw That was the ground Of my !
objection the other day and that is the ground
of my objection now-,hat congress is making
one rule, and the department another. Naw,
sir, the rule Of the Pension department being
that the Pension shall take effect from the time
the proof is completed, am willing to take the
same rule. If the gentleman states that the
evidence in this case shows that the proof was
complete at the time referred to in the bill, the
LIT Of May. 1848, think that is all right.
Mr.. JONES, OF Iowa. That is the rule upon
which we acted.
Mr.. HALE. withdraw my amendment.
The amendment was then agreed 10.
JIM cAPERs.
Mr.. JONES, Of Iowa. am instructed by
the committee on Pensions, to whom was re-
lerrcd the petition Of jim Capers, TO make a
report, accompanied by bill, and desire that
NE bill b. now considered.
The bill was accordingly read the first time,
md ordered 10 second reading.
Mr.. J. asked the unanimous consent Of the
Senate TO have it read ! second time, and acted
upon.
NJ objection being made, the clerk proceeded.
a. reok ~ bill second timr, when
~ Hal in4u'redkif,t Vas bring Rad with
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