The daily union., 1852-08-18

Ties of General Scott OF General Pierce in the discussion
OF this question. care bat little about either one OF
the other In comparison with my duty 10 the Senate and
the country. Ia this matter ! nothing about party
politics. Mr.. President upon another OCCASION and in
another said that my party robes hung loosely upon
my shoulders whenever the honor, the interest aud the
welfare OF my country were at stake and sir here
before this Senate, and before the people, say that my
party robes will hang loosely upon my shoulders when
ever the honor, the dignity, and the usefulness of this
august body IN Judgment may depend upon any vote
OF mine.
Sir, is this the arena to discourse on the subject Of
party ponues' or to indulge IN personal commentator
or vindiclye aspersoni | say no Party politics is
business That our constituents expected desired
us 10 waste their time upon here Ii small business
which the democratic party do not expect or wish 10
meddie with; and have not wrongly estimated their
virtue and wisdom and patriotism, they would prefer
that we should lay the resolution and the amendment
upon the table. rather than that we should do anything
to impair public confidence in the exalted reputation and
dignity ot this body But is said that there is whig
precedent for this resolution Then let us put the brand
o. aemod'aa h a'sapProeanon upon it move that the
MIR. UNDERWOOD. Will the honorable senator al
low me to say word' twill be very short, and will
Mr.. STOCKTON. No. sir; cannot withdraw the
motion.
Mr.. BRADBURY and Mr.. MERIWETHER asked
Tor the yeas aid nays on the motion and they
ordered and being taken, resued-yeas 20, nays 23as
follow
tYEAS-MessTs Adams, Bayard, Bell. Brooke. Butler,
Chase, DAVIS Desaussure, Foot, Geye Hunter. James,
Upham, and Wade-2o
NAYS-Messrs VS. A.ehison Bohsnd Bradbury, Bright
iS~G Douglas Downs Fech Hamln Jones Tennessee.
Toucey, Walker, and Weier-23.
So the motion was not agreed TO-
MI. UNDERWOOD. ! rise 10 say that the vote
which gave in favor OF laying the resolution upon the
other side OF the chamber stated in the outset that
deprecated this very much but the senator's on
the opposite side who favor this proposition leave
alternative. If vote against it, il is as much as 10 say
am afraid something would be disclosed against that
candidate Tor the presidency whom intend TO sustain
winch would be degrading and dsgraceful TO him be-
eve nothing OF the sort be disclosed and therefore
when you put the question adopting the resolution,
am compelled TO vote in the affirmative.
rise TO make these remarks TO show the consistency.
as think, OF the attitude which occupy in having voted
10 lay The resolution the table, while shall now
vote for the resolution itself and if the senator from
New Jersey had given me the floor when requested
him for the noble sentiments which he avowed and in
endeavorng by that mode to get clear OF subject the
Introduction OF which into the Senate of the United
States deprecate But il being here, and coming from
political adversaries feel bound TO open every channel
OF investigation TO them which they may think proper
demand
amendment OF the senator from Tennessee, if it were
introduced separate proposition. believe how
ever, that il II be attached TO The original resolution the
delay answering IT will be so great that the informa
tion desired will not be obtained in time shall there
lore vote against as amendment but if the senator
will bring il forward a separate proposition, will most
cheerfuly vote for IT.
The question being taken by yeas and nays on the
amendment resulted-yeas ls nays 19-as follow
. fEAS-Messrs. Adams Bell, Brooke Butler, Charlton
Davis Desaussure, Douglass Foot, Geyer Jones of Ten.
ham, and Wade-Is op
:, NAYs-Messrs. Atchson, Bayard, Borand, Bradbury,
Iowa. Downs FeIch, Hamin, Merwether, Norris Sebas-
'ian, Stockton, Toueey, Walker, and Weier-le
80 the amendment was rejected, and the question re.
Mr. STOCKTON asked for the yeas and nays which
We're ordeed and, being taken resuted-yeas 90, nays
las follow:
:, YEAs.5Messrs Atchson, Badger, Borlund, Bradbury
Bright, Cass, Charlton Clemens, Dodge OF Wisconsin,
Dodge Of Iowa, Douglas Downs Felcb, Hamn, Jones o
tennessee Mehwe6er, Norris, Sebastian, Seward soule
Spusnce, Toncey, Underwood, Wade, Walker, and Wei
NAYsTrMessrs. Adams, Bayard, Brooke, Davis, De-
ham-lI.
So the resolution was adopted.
THE FISHERIES QUESTION.
On motion by Mr.. CASS, the Senate resumed the con.
sideraon of the Presidents message concerning the
North American isheries-the pending question being on
The motion to refer 1t to the Committee Foreign Rela
tons.
MIR. SEWARD. Mr.. President, when this debate was
arrested on Thursday last, question had just arisen
whether the executive administration had been censured
here Tor ITS conduct in regard to this subject.
The honorable senator from Virginia. tMr. MASON, j
the Senate remarked that If the President had
done his duty the whole naval force OF the country had
been already sent into the northeastern protect the
rights OF American fishermen against British cannon
The honorable senator from Maine Mr. HAMLIN 1 the
honorable and distinguished senator from Michigan Mr.
CAss,l and the honorable senator from Arkansas fMr
BoRLAsDl declared that they fully concurred in ali that
had been said by the honorable senator from Virginia
Now, u is quite certain that the whole naval force OF
The country has not even yet been sent into those
and suppose il equally certain that at that time none
bad been sent there.
The honorable senator from Arkansas [Mr. BoRLANDl
expressed astonshment and regret that the President had
not, without call, sent here all the information which
he possessed He complained that the Secretary Of State
had realed the subject wrongly in what has been called
his proclamation =" that IL "cast doubts on the right OF
The fishermen" Alludng TO rumored negotiation at Mr.
Websers country residence he declared his opinion
hat the place i-chosen, and indeed that negoa.
lion there or even here under the circumstances ought
% be repobaed altogether The honorable senator from
Connecticut Mr.. ToUcEYl asked what the mean. |
ing OF the notice published by the Secretary OF State
was IT designed TO induce fishermen retire from
heir pursus-to invite us 10 surrender the rights
cured to us by the convention OF 1918. The honorable
senator was pleased TO express his that he could
not have confidence in the administrations and also an
opinion that it needed TO be prompted The honorable
aud esteemed senator from Louisiana Mr. SouLEl was
more cautious; but he complained that some Of our
rights in the fisheries had brutay been torn away" "in
he midst OF the most profound peace" and "when Eng
and was necessarily receiving profuse tokens and
of condescension, and allowed 10
urn 10 her own advantage, and profit the good Will IN
iuged towards us by Nicaragua, and had been allowed
10 introduce her bankers into treasury agents in
he payment oil our debt 10 Mexico. These" said the
senator, 81 repeat II again. are strange tunes indeed"
gain that argued that Mr. Webster had erred
when he said in the notice published by him, that was