The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-07-30


they should co. he pointed them what my friend from
Virginia terms equivalent" which was small por-
uon OF their territory Ii strikes me that This was
curious kind OF equivalent suppose we had very
broad DOMAIN suppose u possible ,ha Io'ssn govern,
give us small portion such as Rhode Island and Della
ware, and tell lis that equivalent Tor The Losses
we had sustained and then put hostile people along with
rs That was the condition OF things III this case lhe
Uniied States narrowed these Creeks to small portion of
their own territory for they masters OF the whole
creeK territory at that time, in certain sense. very
sWa part OF in comparison with their great quantity OF
land was reserved for them and then the hostile creeks
were put in among tlem-he Indians whose blood was
reused by the contest they had between each other mat
was the equivalent, which they got.
But II as said that, il bound TO pay them,
this payment has been made The various reports made
on the subject in the House Of Representatives have been
alluded 10. and shall speak Of them very briefly First
is said that Colonel Hawkins, the intelligent agent OF
these Indians reported that 900 would have been re-
ceived by them equivalent for these losses. say,
respectfully, that is not Colonel Hawkins reported
that they would have received equivalent for their
lands 500 600 No~. we all know that party who is
under the power OF SA0lhcr be willing 10 receive as
equivalent in what is really not equva
lent in another They under the power Of the gov
ernment. They were under the power OF the military
chiefain who had them in charge. But Col Hawkins,
in that connexion not speaking of these individual
losses at all He anudng the land, and he says
SO expressly The Iepon which ! have before me from
the Secretary OF the INTERIOR speaking OF Col Hawkinss
report, says
" In regard the claim of the lands of the
friendly Indians included in the cession e1aced by the
the lines for the treaty $4,000 would have been received
as equivalent"
There is claim here for the losses. This referred
altogether the land He spoke exclusively of the land
which the friendly Greeks had lost, and in making allu
sion to the 100000 be did not refer all 10 the ndi-
vidua losses which they had sustained The senator
from Virginia tells you, and the reports will show that
one town-the iown Of Tookanbatcbe--was completely
destroyed, the cattle OF the inhabitants driven away,
and their houses were burnt down. The whole indi-
vdua property OF the chiefs and other taken
away from them by the hostile Creeks 1t is these ndi
vidua losses for which they now claim compensation,
and not for their land which has been taken from them
Colonel Hawkins, in that very letter, draws a disnc-
ton between the land for which they willing
ceve 500 900, and the individual losses which they
tanned. The losses sustained by warriors who re-
manned faithful to the United States during that conflict.
Colonel Hawkins reported. in August 1885, that he had
no data on which 10 calculate to the extent OF the
claims of individual losses; part OF the vouchers having
been taken away by General Jacksons secretary and the
remainder given TO the assistant agent at Coweta Then
he goes on to say;
"In regard the claim account of the lands of the
friendly Indians included in the cession exaced by the
treaty. he expressed the opinion that the time Of draw
ing the lines for the treaty $600Oo would have been
ceived as an equivalent"
There is a very clear distinction drawn here between
the individual losses OF the Indians and the lands taken
trum them. Colonel Hawkins says that they will
ling TO receive 5000 equivalent for their lands,
oul that he bad no data from which he could make cal
culaon "a TO the extent OF their individual losses.
Mr.. BUTLER Does the 500. 900 cover the individual
Losses
Mr.. CHARLTON There is very clearly distinction
drawn. He says:
In regard the claim of the lands the
friendly lnaan, included IN the oession enaced by tue
ceved as equivalsnt's
He stated that he had no data upon which to calculate
as TO The extent OF the claim for individual losses and
after stating that he goes to say that the Indians
would have been willing to receive $4,000 equiv
alent for their l~nds.
ba ~ ia,
Mr.. CHARLTON. will read TO the senator exactly
what the report from the Department OF the Interior says
Colonel Hawkins reported, August lsls that he had no
data upon which To calculate the of the claims
for the dipda losses OF tho vouchers having been
taken by General Jscksons secretary, and the remainder
had been given 70 the assistant agent at Coweta.
In regard 10 the claim account OF the iawds OF the
friendly Indians included in the cession exacted by the
treaty, he expressed the opinion that at the Of draw
log the lines Tor the treaty $4,000 would have bcen
ceived as an equivalent"
Colonel Hawkins, the lie, OF April, 1916. made an
additional report TO the amount OF the claims and he
stated that, from the peculiar condition OF affairs, IL
imperfect, and could not be otherwise till all the hunters
in but he found in that report that the aggregate
OF the claims presented to that time S0s4l5 l2i
The amount favorably reported upon was s7S,36o 10.
IL is manifest that be did no, consider the S600 900 an
equivalent Tor both, for he makes favorable report on
claims 10 the amount OF SIS 800 He estimated that The
whole amount OF Just claims would not exceed 100000
The Senate will perceive that this mere estimate
He stated that The Indians their hunting grounds
and he could not form correct estimate but that he had
already obtained estimate which he considered just
for over SIS 00o and added that he supposed the Just
claims would amount TO Sl0o 900 ln that estimate were
not included the losses account OF the destruction at
Took anbaiche. That town totally devastated, and
the individual property OF the warriors altogether de-
stroyed
In 1917 Mr.. Lowndes made bis report. think, by
looking at IL. IT will be manifest that the committee did
consider that the SS5 900 which they proposed APP
propra,e equivalent for all the losses and would
pay for all the individual losses which the Indians had
sustained That will be made evden, by turning to page
five OF the report which have received from the De-
parimen OF The Interior. The Secretary OF War, upon
the SS3 900 appropriation, instructed Colonel Hawkins
TO pay the Indians "ony portion OF their claims pres
ent probable that there may be other claimants en-
titled 10 the benefits OF the law who mentioned in
the lis, furnished by Colonel Hawkins therefore final
distribution OF the money should not take place uafd pe
tDboL amount Of claims Is ascfrfdinsd."
IL will not do Tor the senator from Virginia to say that
the government did intend to pay these losses in
full Certainly the whole action OF the government shows
that II intended to pay the whole in full when fairly
ceriained. What lhis government hucksier with
upon their individual lossesosses recognised by the
government the proprety of paying which was recos-
nsed, and appropriation made TO pay them. Is that
the true construction OF these instructions Certainly II
- not Our sense of justice would revolt from that.
The instructions do not contemplate that They weIe
10 Colonel HAWKINS TO pay the Indians "only por-
Ton oil their claims al present, as II ~ probable there
may be other claimants entitled TO the benefits of The law
who not mentioned in the list OF claims furnished by
Colonel Hawkins therefore final distribution of the
money should not take place until the whole amount Of
dams & ascsriaiasd.n
| ask the Senate, was IL Intended when the whole
amount of claims ascealned TO pay pro rata por
ton Would not that be an act OF bad faith The gov
eminent called 10 it's service these unfortunate men, who