The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1852-08-10

| EnSasa Interview VITA tho Prssdeato
(Hrsm the Nstisnai Intelligencer, August 9Th
The four Pueblo Indians who arrived hero Sstur
day from New Mexico. in charge Of Capt w Lew
and Mr.. David f. Whiting, yesterday made thsil
first visit to the Indian Bureau, and thence called
being admitted to the President they rem aimed SO s
time in tho East ROOM where their admiration vas
excited to high pitch by the size Of the apartment
and the magnifcence with which it is furnished On
being introduced to the President in his official rs
mp stairs, each of them shook hands with him and
the Secretary of the Interior The Of tho In
dams, who arc from the Pueblo Of Tessque, about
twelve miles north of Santa Fe arerespectively jose
The Indians spoke in Spanish. Mr.. Whiting 40 sed as
Interpreter. The President having sgnided his dis
position to listen to anything they might have to
municate, Jose Maria, after few minutes Of modest
delay said he solicited permission to speak to tho
President on two or three subjects. He had, ho
said, travelled very rto the country aud people
of the United States, and what he saw greatly as
tonshed him. He had heard great many strange
things OF the habits and customs Of tho people of
this country, but now he saw for himself Much
that he had heard he did not believe, but now he
saw more than ever had been told him. with his own
eyes he lived, he said, when at home, in poor
country; he and his people suffered great deal Of
trouble; but he looked upon the President as his
great father and the father of his people as well as
OF his white brethren and such he should look to
him for help and succor His people wished to live
according to their own habits and customs; bat his
country was very poor one living thore was very
high, and if he spends dollar, SO much of it goes for
food that he has nothing left to buy clothing with
Owing to mlsmanagement, or something unfavora.
be, there were great many thieves in the country;
this would sometimes lead TO bad results; but for
his part end his peoples, they wished live in peace
and quietness He complained Of his Mexican
neighbors, by whose dishonesty his people had lost
several animals, which he wished to have restored.
The Mexicans also cut more aceq,staS than thew had
off too uch fro
their fields. He also said no wished that the sripu-
latons of the treaty entered into three years ago
with the United States should be fulfilled lie
would like to take homo some agricultural imple-
ments and other tools, for they had scarcely any
thing to make a door or window with. He wished
to lodge complaint against man named Nests,
who had acted as agent for their pueblo in selling
some goods in Chihuahua; he had sold fit '. three
buffalo robes, worth "a EACH and had only returned
$40 and two calves for them. He could not say
oDythiDg more. He was so much struck with tho
buildings and institutions and manners of the people
Of the United States, that no was at loss to ex-
press himself Before sitting down, he requested
that before he returned he might have some church
ornaments given him, list of which had been given
him by his Cure.
The President replied, in expressing the grati6
cation he felt in meeting them. This was the first
time in his life that he had the pleasure Of seeing
pueblo Indian. He knew how long and tedious
journey they had travelled; he knew that they
would have to pursue the same journey home but
them till they again returned to the bosom Of
their families.
The President was sorry to hear that there were
thieves and bad men in their country. He was
anxious that the law should be enforced against all
such; and in order to this end he had appointed
Governor Lane to be Governor of New Mexico,
who would be charged with protecting the good and
furnishing the bad. All questions relating to their
internal affairs must be settled by the Governor
and officers in the territory. As to agricultural
implements, and church ornaments, he 1the Presi-
dent) could mako ne promise at this time, but
whatever it was in his power to do for them, should
be performed
Mr. Stuart, the Secretary of the Interior, and
the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, are charged
with these matters, who will do all they can to gra
tify the Pueblos.
The President regretted to hear of the dishonesty
of the Mexicans with whom they had dealings ia
Chihuahua but it was out of the power of this go
vernment to help them; they could only, in such
cases, look to the Mexican laws for redress. He
would advise the Pueblos, however, to have nothing
to do in future with men who had proved them.
selves dishonest.
In reference to the treaty Of three years ago. he,
the President, would look into it, and if it should
be found that any stipulation in it lacked fulfil.
ment. ho would see it should be fulfilled. He was
grated at their visit, and hoped that after seeing
SO much Of the United States, they had formed a
better opinion of the people than they had before
they came. The President regarded his red chill
dren in New Mexico with the same good will that
he did his white children in the States, and would
do all in his power to make them happy. He was
sorry their country was poor, but hoped that, by
improved agriculture, they would find the high
prices advantageous, instead Of the reverse This
was all he had to say, except that he hoped the
Great Spirit would bless them on their return, and
give them health and happiness; The SeSretaIy,o Of
would give them any further information they might
require.
After another shaking Of hands the Indians re-
tired, and after conducted to the Capitol
by their agents. With one exception. these In
dams are Of small stature. They can all read and
write Jose Maria is really pleasant speaker, the
Spanish sounding very softly and smoothly as it
flowed from his Inns.