The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-09-22

session OF Congress for not single Stale will act upon
por to that time, and will then be fairly before
ana II II Is TO be made issue before the country be-
tween the two schemes OF internal Improvement, lei
them both be presented at once, and let the country de-
eide on lhem That is the reason why want vote on
/ Mr.. CHARLTON. lido not seek to embanass the
senator from Illinois AT all by the amendment which /
have offered as il was through his courtesy that was
enabled 10 ofier the provlso do not feel at liberty,
he desires to Withdraw his amendment, TO embarrass him
by insisting nine. therefore yield my assent to his
wihdrawing his amendment and withdraw nine.
The PRESIDING OFFICER, (Mr. BRIGHT in the
chair) Tue question then on the amendment OF
the senator from Illinois The senator from Illinois asks
leave 10 withdraw his amendment Does any senator
object
Mr.. ATCHlSON I object
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Then the question will
be, W The Senate consent 10 give the senator from I'LL.
nos leave 10 Withdraw the amendment!
Mr. ATCHlSON. On that question ask for the yeas
and nays.
MI. DAVIS Has not the senator from Illinois right
The PRESIDING OFFICER The Chair understands
that the yeas and nays have been ordered and therefore
the amendment cannot be withdrawn without the leave
Mr. BORLAND I rise TO express the hope that the
amendment will not be Withdrawn. should be willing
to yield almost anything the senator from Illinois could
ask and nasmuch as he is the author of this amend
ment, and has special charge OF it, feel strongly dis
posed 10 yield to him. But consider this measure Of
much importance. IL belongs not to the senator from Hi
alone, Dut 10 the WnOlt country. opinl0n
presents 10 the American people system which is more
important, and will be valuable, if adopted, than
any which has been offered during the time OF my service
in lbe Senate CONSIDER it OF infinitely more Importance
than the whole bill together For that reason want TO
vote upon il. Judge from the Indications tina,
it will be voted down Very well let ii be voted down,
and let the country its strength let them who are
against and who are tor It, am willing, for one, to TAX
the responsibility before my constituents, OF defeating
the whole river and harbor bill, than lose this
proposition and do DO not 10Th hes,is,e 10 svow it.
moment ago that the senator irem Illinois had no right
10 Withdraw his amendment, supposlng that the yeas and
nays bad been ordered; but the Chair has since ascer
tanned they have not been ordered and therefore the
from Illinois hds right 10 withdraw the prop
ostiOn
Mr. DOUGLAS | wish the senator from Arkansas
and every body to understand that Withdrawing the
amendment al the request OF those friendly 10 IT, and with
view oil perleeng II, and presenting al the next session.
aud not With view To the abandonment OF the policy /,
because am thoroughly convinced OF its necessity ana
wisdom wish II 10 be distinctly understood that theI.
is Intention 10 abandon the measure but 10 perfect II
before it shall be adopted With that view | Withdraw
Mr. ATCHIS0N Iregret very much that the senator
from Illinois did not come TO that conclusion before We
consumed this day in The discussion OF the proposition
am very anxious TO have vote upon the amendment
without further delay; and The senator from Illinois
has seen ht 10 withdraw IT, take the liberty OF using
bis amendment, aud Offering it again necessity
Tor delay. wish TO have vote upon the proposition ;
wish 10 test this great principle now but will Do
trouble the Senate by debating The matter. think can
say that have not troubled them for five minutes upon
this subject
Mr. MASON / am gralifed that the senator from
Missouri has renewed the amendment of The senator
from Illinois. was one OF those who said to the
a'or from Illinois when he proposed TO oder IT, that !
would 20 with him hear, and hand l regret very much
that be has Withdrawn The amendment wish TO test
this p,ncple-o determine whether the United Stsies
to oder 10 the States the federal treasury to make
improvements which they should make themselves,
whether Congress will place II in the power OF the
States 10 make them II they think proper | want
10 have vote upon it. want 10 have the princ-
pie tested. | want il 10 90 before the American peo
pie, along with many other lessons, which, trus the
people have learned at this session. to The OF
The legislation OF the ede raj government feel indebted
TO the senator from Missouri Tor renewing the amend
ment
| do not wish to proong the debate merely wish
upon the question: and wish the yeas and nays TO
be taken upon It. | wish gentlemen TO show which
side they
/ understood the senator from Missouri [MrGErERl
to say That the proposition was not sanctioned by the
constitution disagree with him The constitution
provides that no State shall lay tonnage duty with
out the consent e Congress. | reason why
Congress may not give its consent IN advance and that
the whole principle OF the amendment, 10 let the
States levy tonnage duties at their discretion wanthe
American people 10 see whether the States when they
have the power, will use it, or will look to the federal
treasury here 10 make improvements rivers and har.
bors which they should make for themselves,
ask for the yeas and nays on the amendment
The yeas and nays were ordered.
Mt CHARLTON. ! renew the amendment which
Mr.. ATCHlSON. | will accept the amendment OF the
senator from Georgia. does not change the principle
at all.
Mr.. BUTLER. That places my colleague in an avk-
ward predcament. ] think il would be better 10 take
the vote the naked amendment OF the senator from
Illinois, but it will not do to mingle with amend
ment to which there is, perhaps, some opposition The
senator from Georgia offer his proposition after the
vote taken the amendment OF the from Iii.
nois, renewed by the senator from Missouri
Mr.. DESAUSSURE II The senator accepts the amend
men IL places me in the position thai shall be CON-
peed 10 against the proposition, although should
Otherwise be In favor of IL
Mir CHARLTON. am in the same position. can.
not vote for the amendment, unless my amendment is
The PRESIDING OFFICER, (Mr. BRreur in the
chair) The senator from Missouri has accepted the
amendment and il becomes part of the original PROPOSE
ton.
Mr BROOKE My object in rising is to submi, to the
senator from Missouri and the senator from Illinois the
proprely and expedency OF Offering this pr roposon, not
amendment TO the bull, but as substitute for the
whole bill Ii II is intended as substitute, can give IL
my hearty concurrence | vote for IT any rate ;
bat should much prefer to vote for il substitute for
The BILL because that will place the subject firm snd
proper basis. II il is adopted amendment must
consider the whole amount appropriated by the bill
thrown away. 1 look upon The subject, as l SAID, as
placed upon proper basis by the amendment Of
Tered but would much prefer its being offered as sub
siltute.
My objections TO the bill as il now stands are two
the one rs, that the amount appropriated - too small
and the other that the amount Is too large They
Two very distinct propositions. There very dis
tngushed statesman the State OF Mississippi who once
remarked that roast turkey very incon venen SORT
oil owl lor a dinner table. lie bon ripant, and
man oi Cardinal WooIsex,s ordar-''of an unbou nded