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TO be sent TO them and where they 10 be
moved 10 And II they become troublesome IN another
place. where are we TO remove them AGAIN. And shall
we coAlnue TO remove them ill we crowd them 10 The
Mr.. RUSK This is not an amendment Of INV own !;
Il comes from the House OF Representative, and pre-
sumo was suggested there by the Indian commissioner
TELL s. Tar Ss as am &C eoness ass so obseos ,Ss 10
imung the proposition TO taking back those Indians that
properly belong to the United States.
Mr.. SHIELDS. Do 4 understand the senator 10 say
that he y ready 70 confne il TO themi
Mr. RuSk have no obecting TO Limiting i TO them.
! Inc amendment, as 4 comes from the House oil
Representatives was asked Tor presume, by the Comms-
sloneT Al any rate the negotiations are 10 be un-
der his control and direction.
Butt will not delan the Senate longer. shall have
occasion hereafter TO advert to this subject when shall
go fully INTO the whole history OF il from beginning to
end All that is asked here is very small amount to b
appropriated for the purpose OF removing entering into
negotiations remove, those Indians who clearly
entitled 10 be there at all II it is the policy Of the gov
own troublesome Indians upon Texas and 10 take no sosi
s s RSas II sssas Ssa sSess %
Mr.. BELL The honorable senator's remarks do not.
think. answer my suggestions AZ ALL have often
heard him ude to the facts he has narrated todayand
with good deal Of feeling, the present occasion.
But have no feeling upon this subject This but the
remnant OF an old quarrel between Texas, an inde-
pendent State and The United States, understand il.
Now, do not remember the article alluded TO in the
Caddo treaty, but think very likely the honora-
BILE senator stated it. But If there such article in
Mot uCaiyb tniHh ~ 10 Oil inPUPcl ulHckuUOiiy
But deny that is the policy Of the United States to
send Indians out OF our territory into that of neigh
boris This government has not acted on such policy.
That treaty may have been departure from it; i may
have been that the Senate OF the United Sates without
reference to the policy OF not ntrudng our Indian tribes
upon neghbors territory, have departed from it in
that Instance But my remarks were made upon the hy
pohess that the honorable senator from Texas sought
some other territories of the United Sateshese Creeks.
Choctaws, and Seminoles-lhese awess bands OF In
dans TO which the senator alluded had no reference
to the ant OF the Caddo Indians who settled in
villages and who, SO lar as have undest0od and from
any recollection that now have, are peaceabe and
mbeclle race, and not warlike tribe OF Indians at all
II they have become so then is since they have united
with the Cumanches the Cherokees the Creeks, and the
Seminoes, and. abandoning their original habits have
deerioaied and become robbers like them did not un-
destand that this appropriation asked for the removal OF
the Caddoes upon the ground OF violation OF national
courtesy between the two nations. when by treaty spu-
atons these Indians agreed to leave the territory OF the
Uaed States But even in regard to that, If the appro
priaon is to apply to the Caddoes-even that be the
object Of it-I am willing to vote for it, Yet doubt very
much the practcabty OF removing them out OF the terri
tory OF Texas II may be that in some OF the western
parts OF Texas will be found the most suitable homes for
them. Certainly know OF no other more suitable place
for them II you take them northwest into the territory
of the Chickasaws and Choclaws you take them upon
Indian territory. Il you take them further north you
bring them in conflict with the western frontiers, among
the white Settlers SO that can probable result 10
this appropriation.
But in regard to the general policy Of the United
States towards Texas OF preserving peace on the FROM
tier, consider that we bound, in virtue OF the
guaranleeship which assumed the Indian tribes,
and the powers that we claim OF directing our in
tercourse and affairs with those tribes, to all those
Indians speedily may be done with safety and pro-
pnety; and whenever there is proper demand, by the
growing population OF the State OF Texas, are bound
furthermore, IN virtue OF the power by which we
have assumed TO control the affairs of the Indian tribes,
preserve them in peaceabe relations with the people OF
Texas so far as is in power. Such, understand is
the recognised policy of the government of the United
States We expend hundreds OF thousands of dollars
annually for the purpose OF protecting the frontier OF
Texas against these Indansyery Intellectually. however
as learn; for murders and robberies still exist there.
But will The senator from Texas deny that these murders
and robberies would exist If no Creek or Cherokee.
Seminole Caddo, had set his foot upon that terri
toyl Will he aege that there would have been peace
and quiet upon the frontiers Of Texas, and no plunderng.
no robberes, no murder of men, women, and children,
but for these Indians having been, he says thrust
into that country by the United States
Mr.. RUSK. conscientously believe there would
not.
Mr. BELL. Such, then, is the honorable senator's be-
lief but whence is IT that receive accounts daily from
the Rio Grande OF bands and parties of Cumanches
max ing nroads and carrying of horses and cattle Well
some OF these desperate, warke Seminole chiefs have
thrown themselves upon the country and become leaders
OF other hostile Indians; but we suppress these
hordes Does the senator suppose we have II in our
power 70 hang Wild Cat unless we can catch him.
Mr.. RUSk, Gn his seat) We had him once.
MIR. BELL. We cannot catch him again any of
those desperate leaders that belong to these tribes The
policy and duty of the United States towards Texas will
be TO defend the frontier and whenever they can find
4
can make treaty with them and them at
pense not merely OF S25, 900, but s5ooooo or 81 100000
II you please, even larger sum, IT would be economy
in the United States TO do Indeed, il you could
move them at al expense OF 81 900 900, would
be economy to do because, in four five years, they
will cost the government twice that in all probabi
y My interrogatorles TO the senator from Texas
with view that IL he would give the Senate or myself
reasonable expectation that by having this s25 600
appropriation the object would be accomplished, would
vote for the proposition have not even manifested 40
much solictude in regard to this matter that would vote
against it il he gives other than what he
has already given, because presume his motives TO be
patriotic and, though his grounds may not satisfy me-
yet may trust him. representative OF that country to
have good lead him to the conclusion that this
object may be attained in the way he proposes, and the
| frontier OF Texas be relieved.
! Mr.. SHIELDS. | would suggest an amendment TO
accomplish the object which The senator from Texas has
in view, which think is very proper In order TO
make the amendment clear and definite propose 80 TO
modify il make II relate TO those Indians that have
inruded into Texas from the territories OF the United
States. That, understand, Is the senator's object
| Mr.. RUSK. Yes, SIR.
| Mr.. SHIELDS. Then will propose this amendment
After the word Indians insert the words in Texas
who have ntruded themselves into the State from terrific
ries OF the United States" presume that will accom-.
pish the object.
| MIR. UNDERWOOD. How can you ascertain what
Indians have in,ruded themselves
Mr.. HUNTER. understand the senator from Texas
has agreed 10 restrict his amendment that shall apply
only TO those Indians who do belong to Texas and.
that being done think ought topass the sppropria
| ton.
| Mr. ATCHISON have proposition to make.
and that is strike out after the word State the words