The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1852-05-20

Mr.. BoRLAND i beg leave 10 say, that when on
day before yesterday, this amendment was laken up 1t
was by laying aside informally the very amendment
which the senator from Virginia proposes now to have
considered The senator from Michigan had the floor
at that time upon the amendment mentioned BY the sena
Tor from Virginia. but II was passed over Informally Il
The Collins line was brought IN out OF its place, and
offered my remarks upon it. supposed this other would
come up Then, as matter OF course.
The PRESIDENT. II cannot come up, except BY
unanimous consent The senator from New York OBJ
leets The question: therefore, is upon the amendment
IN relation TO the Collins line OF steamships.
Mr. BORLAND. | should be very sorry to have to in
cl another speech upon the Senate upon this question:
after the long lime consumed but two days ago. But
SIR u The friends OF this proposition are determined 10
the exclusion OF the necessary and the proper features OF
this deficiency bill TO force this Collins line upon the
Senate and upon the country they ought not TO feel az
greved those who believe il is not only wrong IN ITSELF
but out OF place upon this BILL OF the time
OF the Senate in Offering objections 10 il; especially
since Il has been advocated at such length and SO
deliberately by It's friends upon this floor. ! think
can say, with entire confidence in the truth OF The
statement, that the friends oil this proposition had mol
discussed il at such length themselves if they had not
advanced such views IN support OF II II they had not
made II prominent subject of discussion and consid
eation before the Senate and before the country those
who oppose II would not have consumed 80 much time
in replying TO the positions assumed and the arguments
urged IN support OF it, Sir they have forced the subject
and The discussion upon the Senate they have done Il to
the interruption OF the general business OF the country
We have before bill the items OF which are sent here
by the administration charged with the execution OF the
laws Of the country; and we told that il is ndispen-
regular business OF this government should go on And
ye sir the friends OF the administration here upon this
loorhose who tell us this very thing with regard TO
the business Of the country and the operations OF the gov
ernmenthave brought forward subject in connexion
with it. and tackled TO il matter that has not one feature
OF Il " deficiency" in it,
And instead oil making il a amendment 10 the bill,
il has swallowed up the bill and taken its place Instead
of bill Of little three millions Of dollars. the
amendment itself is nearly seven mllons and It makes
altogether bill of ten millions OF dollars, which
now called upon TO pass They will not even per-
nit those features which properly belong to it, and
sltue really deficiency, to be acted upon However
reluctant may be- then. TO occupy the time OF the Senate
feel il due 10 myself and 10 my constituents, when it is
proposed to take millions Of dollars out of the
treasury for what believe to be an improper purpose, 10
state fully as they may occur 10 me, the objections
which think lie to the proposition, and which should
defeat it, am particularly unwilling to occupy the time
OF The Senate this morning. because The general
undersandngat least so supposed ii to be-that the
senator from Michigan should be heard this morning
know that he has prepared with his notes and papers
for the purpose OF presenting his views upon the Indian
appropriation.
think, sir, that there has never before been in
stance in the proceedings OF this body, OF senator IN
his posiliondecning too as he did day before yester
day. to proceed in order 10 give the friends OF the Collins
line opportunity still 10 get il forward before the Sen
atewhere that courtesy has not been extended TO him.
should greatly prefer therefore, that the senator from
Michigan should go with what he has 10 say that
the Senate should hear him that he prepared TO go
think ii is due 10 him, not only in courtesy but IN
strict justice. If the senator from New York; those
who urge this upon will agree that the
senator from Michigan SnlIl 90 Oh Will
speech upon the Senate this morning hope, therefore,
that the senator from New York will Withdraw his OBJ
lection, and let the Senate hear the senator from Mch
The PRESIDENT. The question is not between the
two amendments The amendment relating TO the Col
Inns line is under consideration.
Mr.. SEWARD. Will the senator give way mo-
men!
Mr. BoRLAND Certainly
Mr.. SEWARD. | understand that the honorable
senator from California, chairman Of The Committee on
Naval Affairs, Mr.. GwH]- desires to vote upon this
amendment in relation 10 the Collins line OF steamers
and whose deemed necessary for it's obliged 10
leave town this evening; that the amendment will
lose his vote II the question is mol taken to-day. there
fore insisted upon proceeding with that amendment and
could not Withdraw my objection without an expana
lion But if the honorable senator from Arkansas and
the venerable senator from Michigan insist upon il, will
consent to It And without intending any discouesy to
the senator from Arkansas, Tor whom have high re.
spec | will ask him, after shall have heard the
senator from Michigan, and shall have taken the ques
ton upon this If he will not be kind enough post
pone the delivery OF his views upon the Collins steamers
until after the amendment shall up before the Senate
again, when the bill has been reported from the com
miee oil the whole. ] withdraw the objection.
| Mr.. BORLAND. ! do not know that heard the sen.
aor from New York distinctly; but in withdrawing his
objection, did lie make the suggestion that should allow
the vote to be taken upon this amendment after the SEN
aor IRON Michigan concludes his remsrks'
| Mr.. SEWARD Not as condition. make no con-
Mr. BoRLAND. Twill ask, as the senator wi,hJraws
his objection, that the consideration OF this amendment
be passed informally, and that the amendment ma
king Appropriation on account oil The depredatIons
committed by the Creek Indians be taken up.
There being objection, that amendment was taken
up 80
A long debate ensued which will be published here
alter.
The question was then stated upon the amendment pro.
posed by Mr. BILL. making appropriation TO pay for
Creek spolIations and depredaons.
On motion by Mr. BRADBURY, the yeas and nays
were ordered
The question being then taken by yeas and nays. the
amendment was reectcdyeas 20, nays 2f--as follow
YEAs-Messrs. Bell, Bsrrien, Borsnd, Brooke, Clemens,
Dawson, Downs Foot Geyer, Gwin, Houston, Jones oil
Tennessee King Mallory Mangum, Morton, Rusk, Scbas-
tan, Seward, and Upbam-20
NAYS-Messrs Adams, Bradbury, Bright, Chase, Dodge
Of Wisconsin,. Dodge OF Iowa. Douglas tech Fish, Ham
lin, Hunter James, Jones OF Iowa. Mason, Norris, Pearce,
Shields Smith, Spruance, Stockton, Sumner, Wade, Walk
er, and Weler-2t
COLLINS LINE or STEAMERS.
Mr.. GWlN. | now hope that we will have vote upon
the amendment giving additional compensation TO the Col
Inns line Of steamers
The PRESIDENT. That is the next in order, and
will be now considered.
Mr. WADE The two senators from Pennsylvania
tMessrs. CoorER and BRoDHEADl wished me 10 an
nounce TO the Senate that they have paired off this
and Mr. BRoDHEAD would vote against 1t, IL they were
present when the vote is taken
Mr. CHASE. | have amendment to the amend
ment which wish TO eer. TO in at the end OF the
amendment, as follows;
"dnd provided fprhu, That the proprieors OF the said
line OF shall consent 10 such mo icaton OF the
existing tie Postmaster General may advertise
for and accept under future legislation OF Congress,
proposals for carrying the mails In seanfhPs between The