Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-06-10
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constitutions. III THIS l. 20 be C".e>t pctNccl lho
V towns and cities. an the country shall maintain
{ the rural population interest here. EEL boan! 10
e do 1t. Aad | hope III: friend I:nla He>:iLore. ant.
II he does nc: consider this proper .lnie, WI, a!
ali events, i'll convention aid u if be rls'srs, and
save US from the prcr!ons question to CT Ill !r
amendment. tes my friend from Botetourt s": !o
he Is representing his constituents here, ii the interests
This constituents require him to support that amend!
ment, hope he will permit lie to say willie Co not
Undertake 10 take him 10 task all woull not ID
such thing 81 10 ds-uac!c him from representing his
constituents in his o"n wny-but he will allow mo Ia
assign tony constituents for the vote shall
i've the reason which he has assigned i,r til. contrary
course. Tin, i fair. that i legitimate. DO not Intend
do no, p-csunc 10 take any gcG:! 80 account
merely wish assign tie reasons tia, will couirol NO
Oh this Question.
Mr. MARTIN, Of Marshall. ! wish merely Ia Ito
he for the vote sllai give ,'on this Propns-
ton AMI they arc these: | started out with the idea
that representation shu.!i be- according To- the rinbc.
Of white inhabitants voting population Of tho cn!n-
nonwcaih. Being "rc:rutc ii that matter :" far. ani
II being the pleasure Of this Committee TO desire that
property should cn:rr into The cc'uiipa AMI ;orn
component part Of !r bass II rrlT"srn alton ~,
i>pnsed 10 carry ont the principle. an: .:e t. iror:v
u is I"c weight whrrcvr: II may he locate whether
in town or Country have ii,:. Of iii, patchwork
prlicy. II y"a la cio"n prlc pie correct carry i:
cut II YOU i.i;d it Leafs 90, nt" iicuilc. a'al'nn
:. AID 20 back and take NJ! III" rr ani proper rn2i
2r o! approximation, that II white population gal
Tied y"trr: AMI you vii! have onscl charge it in
order t. Inny um:c power %: .uln"itr il -:e
to the towns and cities cf rki' SAFE. Wchayen over
grown cities in r-!ns that mecI be rericte IN their
representation if y"n se il cn the voters. Bat /! tho
principle Of numbers ana taxation combined b" correct,
canu: why is. that iec:'ssc ihcs" Numbers arc
aggregated i'll the cities they sioaId nc d,rriTel OF
portion Of their rrpr,>cntasir" power.
The argument made "i Ly gentlemen OF tbs A'or
rpriyes western Virginia OF her !G> proportion Of rep
rcs"ntatiuu btca-c ii" l. poor a; gives il II eastern
\ j. n.,y
take portion oi III" ;cir. .r.ltion l.p the u ana
>iri.s whri. their ptinci L. gives : bccaa.s the
r:c u: rather. because their wealth Is too n.uoi.
concentrated AMI wou!d exercise undue Influence ~
| n" representative branch %: tie government.
! Mr. WISE. Tie argument urraI was No. becans"
property much concentrated bai because wealth
more ;hau IL equal in:eaec there. "od the ri!H OF
limitations - ic !u' Violating tie equality ei ienro'
! cn;t' ion secures TIA; equality.
alr MARTIN, 81 Marshall! understood the gen
.elnn from Accuniac that lc would vote l"r this
proposition in order check he extra,a%nt system! Of
ti%aiiun ani appropriations Til kG"w ha, been the
:r.;::r.l q; the mixed hssi- s,,r;ucn this h,"s,
that pr",rc'i"m can be given property cAcch
pat upon the log rolling system bal iy means ~
Observation-Disclosures Provisions N. in='li
! lent. ,l"not think ~. hold tllal constitutional
provisions arc anplr sufficient. aud br arranged
a. to restrain within proper limits The ;-ns ana appe.
rat;t, power and check ccct"ar Ia, ':>norasi-'':
.yslen vii lout violating iihcr principle Of rcpr.'t&-
ion that may b. adopted ny th. Con, cnli"n. kiioN
he argument has been Used III ils Committee that an
equal number uf per living ol the mountains.
not entitled equal alrun ~, representation
rih those living east, Ertau,2 "i tie greater 'inunt
( If ;nx.s pail l.. I'll, s,ye" number III the east. To
t ca!ict Subscribe and, if my position be- correct.
tiai equal nurl.r q" ire" white persons. OF you
please. qualified voters in one scctim enti:!c. /"
equal Political power with the like number in any ch,r
.ecun, then cann"; why any ,ii!lrrcnce rho,ld
b. made between thaSe vil; i'll Ill. towns AN cities
.u u.c living in III" country 20 tr rs representation
.f,,i,
cipc which ~ nan,a d from tho Start, that nGn-
.g, -iIyuid b The basis 81 Representation. no matter
sbr.. il an! if it finally decided By t,i- C'bren-
.d, l~ i; l- been urc!ri hv this Comm!;tcc :"'ta!.
hat wealth shall enter iu tho basis "' representations
shall vote That wealth haye its due influence. whchrr
iltId in lie city or in The c"lntry Tia, Is TIE primer
pie for which shall vote and want it 80 understood
distinctly. .Ncit thc correct republican system ct
representation based upon The qualified vuters Of tins
state and tie whole difficulty Is settled at unce with.
~, an. material variation from tho principle.
The uu: departure FROM This principle which, to my
mind, appears Just and proper was made b. tho Com
attcc i'll tn. apporii"nAcl' e! schedule H. BY refer
.;cc IL thai paper will perceive that the rule adopt
ed was 10 give to the small counties. far possible.
delegate wleu the population a"nuted 10 'hrcs-
ur:!ls Of the ratio required and 10 Mi counties entitled
rs The ratio delegate and tArc"-tourths 81 tho
number necessary give her another, they gave hcr
two bat required any corntv reaching beyond iha.
illb.r of inhabitants to have the full ratio winch
wodli cntt!e her three before she should have that
number assigned her and ior every delegate beyond
40 This consider sufficient check upon the large
and popuous counties aIIi cities, anil | will uot Tu.e
ior any further restraint whatever basis may lie .ippt
= ed. II YOU adopt the sHtIrage ba-- aud apport!"t
according to proposition T. YOU give 10 the city OF Rich
.nh, and every other city in The State their due pro-,
port ion Of Representation according +" The number 81
qualified voters. A:op: the mixed basis and :" far rs
ny yc cnn influence the application ." the principle,
the towns ana cities shalt iav, the full benefit Of it.
Mr. CLAIBORNE. | took til" responsibility ihi,
10 II Of
constituents, 10y voting .sans, striking out \, with
apporunmcn,. promised the people OF ny district
v"l. restrict the ellie, i"r instance" not 10 givo
Richmond more than three delegates
Il is known that Richmond generally votes for every
.c.m" nf internal improvement IRON mud pike up 10
: Il big di'cIl. \ laugh Myfe'pic are n little alarmed
lrm tine subject 81 internal improvements. and they
never have received any Themselves. said his morn
me-. an. repeat il again. ~ wish IL b, IN !crsi."l H.
This matter that il after voting against striking out pc.
.n.itim y with the apl"H!onincht could not gel H."
restriction desired, place. upon the power at t!A
sites IN The Legislature under The nHci has> and
COULD obtain it under another basis >hrrld fee. hound
~ vote for that basis Hy which could get III" re-tri:
ion If nv friend from Marshall and the party with
witch he act, will gv" i under their a-s then. Of
course rn.st take nj, choice between ~" evils and
stand ms chance under the mixed ha-i-. But We shnuld
make lEis restriction in il- committee because now il
e accented time aud this is tho proper place 10 pat il
MO prolprition H. IF | understand correctly 81
into Committee of the hole for tn" purpose o! pcrec
g propositions, which when perfected are rrr",tct Il"
tho Co,yci,tinn W" have refused IN strike out y with
the arportiomcnt and nm willing In go and
perfect ,hat proposition II gentlemen object to that
apportior.ncnt upon the ground that it gives unfair
advantage To the democracy willing :" perfect it
and mal:. it equal throughout the State. ! de>ir" that
NV proposition should be voted upon and II gentlemen
ri;rvc that this restriction should be mai" but deny
that this i the proper place 10 make the restrcon
l. should like them to explain their position shonld
ike tr know why this the proper place to make
the restriction. G"ntlcm.n have acknowledged that
Ibis restriction should he placed upon the prGToitirn
ia, hcy are unwilling to pm; it i'll now, and would b.
ra a. hear thcrrra-nns for so deciding. ana lHrt =
% a;ly working. under The table. payp, across IL"
board u,en nnv question, ca!" here fairly &c reia..
y sent he people Of my district and | vii! d" !: i"irv
md this is the proper place :" icr 'hi- rc-ifs.
ZION should Xix: 10 b. told why II Is not gen.".
" men can convince In" it is not willing I" w1tirfaw
nv ,,roup.itci want II he convinced OF that fact,
Is and when rent lncn convince ne that AIN wrong and
Ills i; not the place t" insert it. but that il lcuu tc l
!. n elsewhere will Withdraw lnv amendment wish
Nom l saw why it il the time. ard Why j: l. uat
b. rg.cc 10 p.: this II ,"n'met upon PROPOSITION
" want rcas"iis dcnuncati'i.
TC,,,ip"'d 10 Supr'r"f" y. 20
81 apuuhS AND sTAIiOHERN.-1hc sr~t::':''