New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1851-03-03

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Mr. JONES said that all are anxious for the pas
sage of appropriation bills and the best way IS
10 take up this bill vote on it without discussion
pass it or reject It, and then take up the aPPro
pristion bills. ILaughter IN
Mr.. CLAY hoped that the friends OF the bill
would insist on its consideration now. 1t was
now OF never.
Mr. Hale had voted to Jay the motion on the ia
bic but if taking up this bill would defeat the
Army and Navy bill, be had done wrong. He
would be glad 70 deiest those bills till they were
reduced seventy five per cent. Laughter.
The Senate was crowded 10 excess, and all the
members of the Pennsy lyania Legislature were
introduced in the lobbies.
Mr. DOUGLAS would vote TO take up the bill
in order that he might say on what grounds he
would vote for the bill fit could be putin proper
shape.
MIR. ATcHIsoS would vote against taking the bill
up, because be did not think it possible 70 pat the
bill in a shape to enable him to vote for 1t.
The question was taken and the motion to take
up the bill was carried by Yeas 81, Nays 25, as
YgAs-Messrs. Badger Baldwin, Bel, Borlsnd Bright
Cas- Chase CLAW Cooper John Davis, Dayton Dickinson
Dodge Of Wisconsin, Dodge Of Iowa, Douglas, Ewing
FETCH Greene, Jones' Miller, Phelps Pratt Rantoul Sc
bastian, Seward. Smith, Underwood, UphRn, Wales
EAYs-Kessrs Atchlsou Bradbury, Butler Clarke, Glenn
ems, Jefferson Davis; Dawson DowIs foo.s S~in n.e
PeaTce Rheit RusE soule Surgeon, TurDey and Yulee-
The bill was then read.
Mr:JoHN DAVIS explained the bill, and stated
that il contained appropriations spread over all
parts Of the country, which amounted 10 over
So 300 OOO 1t contained appropriations for i'm
provements on the sea coast and lakes, and most
Of them apply to works already commenced and
out of repair.
MIR. CLEMENS moved an amendment restricting
the appropriation for the improvement of the Ten
pessee River to that part Of the River between
Chatanoochee and Catron
Mr. FooTE advocated the amendment 1t i'm
proved the nationality Of the bill.
Mr.. BELL opposed the restriction
MIR. CLEMENTS said that the money might as
well be thrown into the Tlver as TO apply IL 70 tue
removal of Muscle Shoals.
Mr.. FooTE and Mr. BELL continued the debate
on the subject of Muscle Shoals.
Mr.. BRIGHT said there were now IN the OH
several appropriations for works OF no national
character but whose object was to enhance the
value of private property, Unless these were
stricken out he would not vote Tor the BILL he
would not vote for it if any appropriations were In
it for improving the Tennessee, Arkansas or ILL
nois Rivers. However much he might feel dis
posed to vote for such Improvements, still there
was a principle which would govern his vote
There were no estimates for surveys of many OF
the items Of the BILL and unless the bill was mar
rowed down TO national works and confined to
those for which estimates had been sent in, he
would move to lay it on the table.
Mr. HAMLIN said if any bills were lost for want
of time, the responsibility would not be on the
Senate 1t was solemn mockery upon leglsa
ton to keep the Appropriation bills from the Sc
nate till the last moments Of the session. The
Civil and Diplomatic bill reached the Senate day
or two ago the Navy bill is IN the House yet, and
the Army bill has just been laid on the table. He
was not IN the minority on the committee report
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committee, but failed. The bill, In its present
shape had Objectionable features, which, if not
changed would compel him TO vote against it
The bill appropriated nearly twenty-iour hundred
thousand dollars, OF which seven hundred and nine
thousand was for the Atlantic coast. ltcontalned
lightweight items, twenty nine Of which were Tor
new works many of which were never surveyed,
and for which no estimates were furnished, nor
appropriations asked by the government He
would not vote for the bill if these were retained
ia it. He would, at proper time, move tostrike
out the appropriations TOR the Tennessee, Illinois,
Arkansas and Rio Grsnde rivers
Mr. CLAY said there were different ways to
defeat the bil-amoDg others, to vote 1t down
and TO amend it so as to make it Objectionable to
its own friends He called on all friends OF the
bill to stand brm and with him vote down all
amendments. He examined the question of ma
tiOnality in such works, and maintained that an
improvement OF the great Western waters was
the greatest national work conceivable. The
West, il denied, moreover, would In tlme insist
upon, and by its own power will take, these I'M
proven euts
Mr. BUTLER supposed the bill was to pass, and
that Mr. Clay was aware OF 1t, from a count, or
some other means. He was asked what had been
done for the Valley Of the Mississippi. de an
sWerec, every thing The Nile was wOrshipped
The Mississippi itself was an immense advan-
tsge 10 the States upon IT, There was hardly
day that they were not called upon to vote land
by millions of acres TO the States for railroads
sud canals Those States bordering on the Mis-
sissippi Valley had received the whole bulk OF the
public lands of any value. He then at length op.
posed the bill.
Mr.. DOUGLAS would vote for the bill if its ap.
preparations were reduced TO those works for
which estimates had been furnished by the de-
partmeuts, and the improvement of the Ohio and
its natural tributaries. There should be some
responsibility for this vast appropriation. The
Administration asked for little over one Million
and this bill appropriated nearly two and a half
millions. If these extra appropriations were not
stricken from the bill, he would vote against it.
Mr. BoRLAND followed and quoted Gen. Jack
son and Mr.. Calhoun as authorities for works Of
internal Improvement, which were not more ma
tionsl than those in this bill
Mr. DAWSON detailed the condition Of the Treas
ury, and stated that at the end of the present ifs
cal year, the debt of the United States would be
slOOOOOOOe At this late day, an appropriation
BILL which had been dead since 1874 is to be gal
vanized in another hour. He alluded to the sim
gular confusion of parties in this question:
He cited several items in the bill as as going
far beyond anything known or understood as
Wing doctrine The Democratic party always
opposed such appropriations. He considered the
reason why this appropriation bill was received
with such favor was that the Presidential cam
paign was coming on.
Mr.. CAss-Mr President, there is not as much
noise and confusion on this occasion as there was
on another memorable one laughter but
hope to be better understood now than l was
then. He had been challenged by an Admins.
ton paper 10 this city TO express his views on
this subject, in terms which imply that his views
bad been concealed. He would be fool to at
tempt % conce al bis opinions this sublect. For