The New York herald., 1851-10-16
The Elections In Penney lvanis and Ohio
DISASTROUS Overthrow OF the Wings.

iitn hstant Sitnougn, OF course, partial and hasti-
ly made up for the telegraph, sufficient to show
that the whig party has met with a most disas-
trous defeat, and that the democrats ave achieved
most decisive victories in both of those two mpor-
tant States Indeed, were the democracy united,
as Of old, on great national measures and in favor
of one prominent leader of the party as a caudi-
date for the Presidency, We should not hesitate to
say, that these two elections cash carried proba-
bly,, by majorities of some fifteen thousand, would
be decisive of the coming Presidential election in
favor Of the democratic candidate. But such is
the present condition of both the great national
parties, and many are the asprants for the Pre-
sideney, particularly among the dem ocras, that
it is difficult vet to form an opinion with regard
to the probable bearing Of the State elections Of
this year, on the Presidential elect ion of 1852.
The character of the recent elections in Pennsyl-
vana and Ohio has been, in some respects dssimilar,
with regard to the ISSUE Of union, a support of
the compromise measures of the last Congress, on
the subject Of slavery and free soil agitation; for,
while Bigler and the democrats OF Pennsylvania
openly avowed their support of the compromise
measures, and Johnston, with various other whg
candidates for Cnice, expecting the free sOilers
support, refused to come cut in favor Of the Fugi
tive Slave law, on the other hand, in Ohio
occupied dubious position, bat vas believed
TO be more favorable 10 the views Of the
free soilers than the whig candidate. We b.lieve,
therefore, that the democrats have received a very
general support fro on the free SO lers particularly
in the northern part Of the States but the free soil
| party is so numerous and strong in Ohio, that
| neither democrats wings venture to disregard
their views and influence. Still we have no doubt
TAT 1a-g NJ the saf( IN
favorable TO Union measures, and opposed to
slavery agitation. We may therefore, look upon
both these State electiois-in Ohio as well as
nnsylvania-as highly favorable to the cause e
the Union, and adverse to the views Of the free
sellers; and in this light, we presume the result
will be looked upon at the south and other parts cf
! the country.
These elections cannot fail to hav, an important
bearing upon the future movements and destinies OF
the wtig party. By many polti slams they will be
viewed as presages of the inal downfall and wind
ing up of the wings national party. But how
will it affect the fortunes Of the whig candidates
for the Presidency These are General Scott, Mt.
Webster, and President Fillmore. The two la ter
occupy similar ground, as repressn sn.ing the ssnti.
mens Of the friends Of the Union, but both are evil
IDENTIFY too weak to obtain a nomination by the
support Of the Northern whig States in a national
convention, in consequence Of the opposition they
would receive from the free soil wings /; would oe
absurd for whig candidate for the Presidency 10
place bis main dependence on the support OF the
South, where the wings are proverbially weak.
General Scott, it is well known, has been brought
forward as candidate who would be acceptable to
the various branches of the whg party, certainly at
the North ard West; and he has received nomine-
tions by State conventions, particularly in these
very States Of Pennsylvania and Ohio, both Of
which supported him by their delegates in the Ma
tiopal Wing Convention Of Isis, which nominated
Taylor and Fillmore. Pennsylvania and Ohio are
States on which the friends Of scott have conf
IDENTIFY relied for part Of the necessary capital Of
electoral votes to make him Presiden.-the State
Of New York, under the guidance Of Messrs Sew.
ard, Weed s Co being considered in the same
category Bu, now the question arises, in consider.
alton Of the elections this week, can the Generals
popularity arising from his military achievements
and glory, be relied sufficient TO overcome
these heavy msjorities Of fifteen thousan in each
State, in the course Of the next twelve monthsl
We doubt it; and We presume the friends Of Fill
more and Webster will have similar doubts and
may be unwilling to take up General Scott, wouaded
as he Is, in these two battles in Pernsy lvania aud
Ohio, on the tieklish uncertainty Of waking up n
military enthusiasm throughout the country, and
relying on that alone for succesi in e.ec.ing whg
President next year. We cannot, therefore, look
upon the present political aspect Of affairs in any
other way than a. extremely unfayorab'c to the
prospects Of General scott, and it may lead to the
prestntation Of entire new whig candidate for
the Presidency. 2u. this question can be better
determined after the wings have had opportunities
for oonsulis,ion at the next meeting u Congress.
With regard to the fleets Of these elections on
the prospects 1f the democrats and dates for the
PIesidency, We should say that the result in Penn
sJlvania is highly favorable to Mr.. Blchauan,
uhose favorte no ninee fer Governor Il elected by
% large & majority. should the democrats Of the
SAITH generally take up Buchanan as their candi-
d1ss, he would come in to the next national con-
veu.ion under very strong auspices, bu. with the
dIsrSsck Of the free soil feeling concealed in the
rankx Of the democracy Of New Englsnd, New
York. Ohio, and other states. The election in
Ohio ray perhaps be considered favorable to the |
nomination Of eitbs- Cen. Cas- or Mr. senator |
Douglas, Of Illinois,, being understood that the
friends .. these two candidates will vaitc. after
testing tAe respective Erength Of each in the con
'ention. ader all tk3 circumstances, VIC may
'onsider the prospects q Mr.. Douglas much i'm
roved By tbs al the elections this
~S~h5 "a - OaA Oosath me N@NVf ahN
II 1he southern democracy, be fqsy yet distance ell
competitors in tie Presidential I ace.
Te return the PennsyIvafia e!ection-.ks result
nay Be considered decisive sgaiust a revision Of
he tsrin at the next session Congress. GOveenor
Iohnston. the defeated Whig o indicate, made the
ahf distinct issue before ~, people, in kis
'arious addresses before the e.sctisn, through
'Ot the Statt-and be called s,pom them to
leclare by their votes whether they we're satisfied
With the present tariff, or whether they desired
nore efficient protection, particularly on rice, ro
nd other manufactures Of Pennylsaaia Bisler'
be democrat candidate, On the other b. nd, wa,
TO be in favor Of the present tar q, and
OF anxious for further protection Wha 'eyer,
ierefore, may be attempted by the advocate Of