The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-03-01
CONGRESSIONAL.
DEvERREO DEBATE.
MONDAY, FEBRUARY ~, 1881.


MONDAY. FEBRUARY a.. 1851.
SENATE.
ABDUCTION POSTAGE.
a. pusK Imoye TO postpone the previous orders of
~ av tor the purpose OF taking House bill ssh for
~ reduction postage and the coming OF tnree cent
"gM DOWNS do not oppose the motion OF the
honnrable senator bu, would ask hm to withdraw II
~. moments, SO that a resolution which was offered
e.. dsvs aso calling upon the Secretary OF War for
s.rsn Information may be taken up II will take bu,
NJ M RUSK. / would agree to the suggestion Of the
hnn,ahi renaior were not that might lose my OPP
The question being then taken upon the motion to
uos4pone il was agreed To- l,.a -,
Tke Senac resumed the consideration as m committee
of the whole, OF House bill 35l-being bill TO pro-
vide for e reduction Of the rates OF postage and The
coinsge OF ihree-cent piece gf
The question required upon the amendment proposed
nv Mr. OIcKNsoN in relation to the coinage OF certain
MT RUSK. have investigated the subject Of this
n;.ce etc and have also had some communication with
Ks a'rectorof the mint in Philadelphia am in favor OF
the adoption Of the amendments that s am in favor Of
,hs, s T. psvjd ebsrss this bill md feel satisfied that
i would draw out discussion. and evidently embarrass
The bin here understand that this proposition is before
The PRESIDENT It was reported from that CON-
Nj. RUSK Twill most cheerfnliy vote for any bill
thew may deem necessary but hope the senator from
New York will Withdraw this amendment. " tasa
Mr. DICKINSON. Then the provision for the coinage
OF the piece ought TO be stricken out of the
according to the provisions Of this bill The mint can
never unless be by accident Ge the insots Of the exact
aneness provided for By this bill. !. lsfn Il
Mr. RUSK | have no objection TO have that stricken
Mr. DICKINSON If the senator thinks that the pro-
vision for the reconage OF the copper cent will embar-
provision for the coinage Of ecent piece be retain
ed then there should BE- provision to allow departure
from the provisions Tor asceItanng the hneness OF the
ngos; for i will bs ascstisned upon examination that
that 10 Just a. impractcahe as any other problem in
science that can be conceived Of Ii Is simpncticable to
scquire this neness provided for by the bill and
less we leave some room for departure we will have no
Mr. RUSK Ihave no objection to striking out that
section do not think that il is important TO the bill
Most Of ,hs payments q The Post 0cs Will bs made
ment Of The senator from New York, except 80 far as il
may led 10 dscussion and embsrrass the bill.
,h, cheap postage to embarla,s in any shape
OF manner; and now withdraw the whole of my amend
ment and will leave the honorable chairman Of the Com
mtes on the Post Once and Post Roads to fix what re-
The amendment was henswitbdrawn
Mr.. RUSK. have m amendment which desire to
o6er-o add after the wod rates." ia line 30 section g,
Of the committees amendment the following:
And subscribers all periodicals. shali be required
pay equanets postage in advance and in all such
the postage shall be half Of the foregoing
The question being taken on the amendment. it was
Mr. RUSK | have now some amendments to offer to
this same SECTION. csmnsncing with line 2e They re-
late 10 the distances OF carrying periedcaie, and make
this section conform TO the other parts Of the bill II will
operate q slight reduction upoa hs poaiage OF period
als, but will insure uniformity in the bill
The different amendments which have to offer are al
follows Il
a
In line D. strike the word hree. and insert the word
"ave"
So as to make the amendment read as follows:
"For any distance exceeding ve hundred miles
and io each additional fraction of
cent for any distance exceeding five hundred mies,
The question being taken upon these amendments, they
Mr. RUSK Ihave also the following amendments in
the same section to offer -f e. f's
like q. after the word "thou,sna"I insert
In line so after tho word thousand insert the word.
i've hundred" fht ~ I=es.t s
In line 81. after the word thousand" the words
line &c. after the first word 'thou,and insert the word.
ve and 10 add TO the end Of the ne the words
And in line 81 after the word Thousand" insert the words
And also TO strike ou, OF lines "a and IS the following
words
And no, exceeding four thousand miles" 4
And also, in lines IS and 80, strike out the words;
"For any distance exceeding four thousand miles, six
times those rates
So as to make the section read in this part of j, fol-
lows,
For any di tpnce exceeding five hupdred miles, and
not exceeding one thousand five hundred miles, douee
hose raes Tor distance exceeding thousand five
hundred miles, ana exceeding thousand ayc hun.
dfsd miles, ueLe those rates for distance exceeding
two thousand five hundred miles and exceeding three
ou'snd 1--we hundfed miles, four times those rates ana
hnny distance exceeding three thousand i've hundred
miles, i've times those rates"
The question being taken upon the foregoing amend
mene they were severally agreed TO.
lbe question being then taken uron substituting the
Snendnt OF the committee. amended by the Senate
- committee OF the whole, for the bill as passed by the
HOUSE, II was adopted
Mr. GWIN Inow move TO strike out
Ihe PRESIDENT. The amendment OF the commit
e amended having been agreed to, II will not be IN
ofuet 70 move 10 s,ke out any portion OF II until Isre
ported TO The Senate Aiicr thai is done. IL will be IN or
w, iof me senator TO make bis moon. ee
MI SEWARD Ihave bad some conversation with
ine ne Chairman OF the Committee the Post Office and
ios hoads, with regard to an amendment which was OIL
ered some days since for the establishment OF penny
.l IN large cities, a, which time was moi adopted upon
peRound OF some objection which he expressed-upon
~ ground That thai object was already provided ioI ny
nmW-i have had some conversation with HIM, and be-
Nve ne ~ now satisfied thai the amendment Ia proper
sno necessary. With has consent, therefore, will ask
IN reconsideration OF the adopting the commuters
snendmsn as voted in favor OF il, that may have
",opporunty !" to offer il.
yaf bADGER. II ~ too late now
i"e PRESIDENT. II will be in order to move tne
ehoment atier the bill isrepor,ed 10 the Sepae but -
oae TO move reconsideration, Tor the purpose oi re-
ou.astng vote BY which an amennment WAS re)ec'eo