Weekly national intelligencer., 1851-07-05


ore given in evidence to the Court.
The Court ordered to be cleared On re.openng'
the objections overued and the witness directed 70
proceed.
Mr. Anderson con,iaued did not consider bis objections
as final because Capt Stone stated that he (Coi HugeD
thinks Dr. Carmichael had under the circumstances no rgn
to transfer his order for without first consulting him and
obtaining his consent and regarded the subsequent es
Col. Huger giving his consent.
Question. When did you receive, II ever you did receive,
orders to stop making shot, and from whom .,
Ans,cer received notice from Col. Huger in writing, Il
have 1t not here time subsequent TO the i1n Oh aP
of this year. received by him receive no more shot
will add that previously to receiving the letter from Co
Huger heard the Secretary of War give such orders to
Gen. Talco happened in my presence, and think on
the 18th April ..- .... ...
Question Did you at any time while you executing,
you supposed the order of COL Huger to Carmichael no.
tify Gen. Taco:t thereof
.anstrer. did not -.... .... ...
Question Do you mean TO say tina. you have to this
day
Anscer received letter from Gen. Tacott the 10th
April 1851, making inquiries Of me. answered that ne
yer notified him before
Question What amount, if any, did you give Carmichael
for the privilege Of executing his contract as assignee and
attorney
Ans,cer. Six thousand FIVE hundred dollars.
Question. Do you that you paid or agreed to pay
that sum ..... .a ...........
Ansper paid it,
Question. Are you the proprietor of the Tredsgar Works
Ans,rer am. ..I ...... .. s..,
interest any foundry when he obtained the order from COL
Hugert .... ....
Anscer. None that know of.
Question. Had you any conversation with Gen. Talcot
on that subject .. s...
Ansce never had prior to April IL, 1851, when called
in person his letter of the 10th April which had
received as | was passing through Washington
On reading his testimony to witness for correction, he
said m wish add to that part of of which
states that considered Col Hugers subsequent
that letter of Capt Sone dated 26th November $780,
giving bis CONSENT and say that considered his letters and
acts giving that consent"
The hour of three having arrived, the Court Adjourned till
tomorrow morning at ten o'clock.
SIXTH DAr-SAtuRDAY, JusE %, 1851.
The Court all the members present The record of
yesterday was read.
Mr.. NORRIS ADLER called. .'.
Question. Are you clerk in the Ordnance Office OF the
War Department
.4nSoer, Yes.
Question. How long have you been so
AnslUer Since 1882 ..." ,..
Question Say whether or not you furnished Doctor Car
with list of the prices paid the Ordnance Bureau
for shot and you did, what passed between you and
General Talco that matter any thing, and give the
time you ....%
Ansper. gave the prices. 1t my own act On the
morning acquainted General Talcou with the fact, to
which he made objection think it was on the 7th No
vember, 1850. .' ."'.,.-
Question. At that day-the 7th November ls5o-was
the letter from General Tacott Colonel Huger dated the
9Th November $780, regard to open purchases of shot
Fort Monroe, recorded in the Office and did you know oft
Answer 1t presented to me by Doctor Carmichael at
the time he asked me for the prices. ..
Question. Did you give the lowest prices'
4ns,Uer thought did. gave the prices rather hur
redly Doctor Carmichael The day, think, look
ed the book and discovered account Of shot procured
from Savey & Co.. Of Philadelphia, who had furnished some
cents and ree-ffhs per pound felt much mor
fed this oversight, and Immediately informed Gen. Tai
of IT, He expressed great dpleasue at this of
mine and censured good deal for having furnished the
prices all in the first instance asked the General what
should do abou, it. He did say any thing then pro-
posed him that would write private COL Huger
to which be made no obection-which did
Question. At what hour of the day did you furnish the
memorandum to Doctor Carmichael and what hour did you
inform General Talcott Oft
AnsUe Ii mus, have been between eight and nine in the
morning that him the memorandum before office hours
informed General Tacot of directly af er he the
Office, which generally little after nine.
Question Do you know the hour at which the cars leave
here for Baltmore-the first train after eight
Anstcer. never go to Baltimore. did not know the
hour, except what DR.. Carmichael told me. .".
Captain MAYsADIER recalled. ...
Question: You stated when previously before the Court
that you returned the lh November to the Ordnance Of
flee, (rom which you had been for time absent. State
when thereafter you r had any conversation
with General Tacot the subject of any given
Doctor Carmichael for shot, and state all that passed between
you and the General on that subject
Ans,cer. When went to the Ordnance Office, on the
Of conversation just had with gentleman the
street which was that the gentleman asked me if true
that Doctor Carmichael had got big contract for shot from
the Ordnance Department that he had heard such the
cas and that Doctor Carmichael had offered it for sale to
foundry in Baltimore that had informed the gentleman
that had been absent from the office the middle Of Oc
tobeI, and that knew nothing about it. but would look
the books when went the Office and if Gen.
Taco told be knew nothing about the contract referred
to in the conversations and that all that had been done in
aon to the purchase of shot during my absence would be
found in bis letter Huger of the 9th of November which
record. read that letter copied on the books
Question Were you informed by the General that the
letter to Colonel Huger by Doctor Carmichael
Ans,cer. was not-eher that it had had not been
so sent .".
Question. When, if ever, and what the next COM
muncation between yourself and General Tacott in regard
| to an alleged contract with Carmichael for shot
AnsUer. To the best Of my recollection, the next COM
muncaon between that subject about the end Of
December, 1885, when read to him letter from Mr. Ander
who enclosed to therein copy the order of the 9Th
November from Huger to Carmichael, which is on your
record 1t private letter in reply which had
written to Mr. Anderson, answering he had previously
written me, time about the middle OF December and
in which he inquired whether knew whether there was any
thing personal to him in the objection which Huge seemed
have his executing the order of Carmichael This letter
have preserved. My to him was, that knew
nothing about the facts in the case and could give opinion
about -ha did know what Hugers order to Carmi-
chse was, as had never seen it.
Question. When you read, as you say, to General
Taco Andersons letter. did you read him also the enclosed
copy Of the order from Colonel Huger to Doctor Carm-
chae
Answv. showed it to him. don't think read it to
him.
Question. Did the General make any explanation or