The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-06-27

much So that it made an impression on my memory It
struck me strange at the time, aud more in
OF what General Talcott afterwards said the
subject.
Did Doctor Carmichael make any other applica
tion TO you than specified in the interview in question
VITO redeem the pledge which he alleged the former
had made him!
A.-DOctor Carmichael urged upon me to allow him to
make quantity OF shot partly on the ground Of posi-
tive contract and partly account Of equitable crcum
stapces which he Northumberland a. having made
rangements to comply with the contract. and having
been disappointed and in fact used every in
duce to give him contract as other people do who
want TO make one with the government and mentioned
among other things that he going to live in city,
New Orleans. l was nhexible, however, and perhaps
showed little Impotence because thought he had
attempted TO introduce deception upon me, and he
finally gave up in despair.
Q-Please to state at what time you left this city in
the fall Of 1850 and when did you return!
Al left in the early part of October, and was gone
fortnight or twenty days. returned on the 23d 0cto-
ber 1850 the records of the department and
sumcd the business Of the department on the 2ithl
Question by the Court.-Was there anything in the
circumstance inconsistent with the superstition that
General Talcott after Doctor Carmichael had finished
his argument would at that interview have given the
opinion he afterwards expressed viz that there was no
pledge in Mr. Crawfords letter, provided you, in the
time had not come to the opinion by the pc
rusal Of SIR. Crawford's letter.
A.. The reason why my surprise at General Tacott's
silence when Doctor Carmichael asserted that there
written recognition Of the contract by Mr. Crawford,
increased by his remarking the next day, day
or two after that right in my decision by deciding
that there recognition ths-I had supposed
IL possible that General Taco agreed with Doctor Car
michael in thinking that the letter signed by Mr.. Craw
ford amounted to recognition of his contract but
when he afterwards said that he agreed with that
there such recognition surprise at his silence
increased because did not know how to account for it,
Captain Maynadier recalled.
DIN making your report to the Secretary of War,
in May 1850 did General Tacot express to you
Al do not recolect to have heard General Tai
cett express opinion that subject; but in writing
that report in charge of the department during his
temporary absence endeavorcd express exactly what
thought would be his views if present. was in the
habit OF writing reports sometimes without previously
consulting General Talcot and then submitting them to
him for his examination; and very rarely that
any official question disagreed at ALL therefore have
doubt that If General Tacott had been present he
would have sigued the report made, and that it
would have gone to the Secretary with his signature In
many words General Talcott subsequently and
approved my report have quite a distinct recollection
that showed him the report shortly after his return in
May or June, 1880 and am quite certain that he ex-
QHas not that report stood from that day to this
the official report in Doctor Carmich iels case
Q.-Do you know that any other subsequent occasion
for report other official action of the bureau
in that matter before Doctor Carmichael brought the
case to Mr. Conrad last fall
Al do not
Judge Advocate-Mr. President propose the defence
admit he was at WIZARDS Hotel on the sd of octo
ber 1850. Admitted
Colonel Is Huger sworn.
OWN you relate to the court the facts and circum
stances attending giving Doctor Carmichael in No
Department.
Avery early in November last Doctor Carmichael
came to Old Point Comfort (fort Monroe) understood
from Washington. He stated to me-
Counsel for DefenceThe accused objects to any tes-
mony being given declarations statements by Doc
tor Carmichael Of the purport of declarations Of
which he the accused not being present. have no
knowledge and which clearly incompetent to affect
him in any manner.
Objection noted, but no decision made by the court
Examination Of Col Huger resumed. Odd you af.
forwards communicate the substance Of this conversation
with Doctor Carmichael to General Talcott
Al do not recoect whether l aid or not. fur
he'd with mam iftu NJ
shot thought it advantageous for the United States
to procure ON the sh of November Doctor Carmichael
letter authorizing to procure shot and shells,
signed by General Tacott Letter read in evidence
When he brought me that letter gave him order
for supply One why Undue "a to give him
this order modistely was, that foundry frcde-
rcksburg of which he was an agent had made shot
similar terms, aud understood from him that they
to be made at the foundry. IL was distinctly
derstood that they to be made at the foundry and
the fact had great weight with in giving him the
order. Doctor Carmichael also handed me memoran-
dun from a clerk in the Ordnance Department (Mr
Ager) showing the lowest prices paid FOR shot
shells l have not got the memorandum, aud II
probably lost IL stated the price Of shot and shells
generally without distinguishing as to esere and that
an additional fraction to the expenses Of trans
portstion from the foundry to Fort Monroe. BY the
n, xt mail received letter from Mr.. Ager stating
that. upon examination he found some shot had been
purchased at less rste this last letter arrived after
about the middle OF November. few days after my
arrival here General Tslcot referred to letter from
thownl am not certain how where | received this
letter. my impression that General Tai brought
il TO me, and was told that IL referred to me to
answer.
The letter stated that Dr. Carmichael had offered Mr.
kemble the contract reservng to himself the liens
answered the letter [copy prolucedl but before do
ing consulted with General Talcott about the matter,
which was the first CONVEX sation with him upon the sub
ject
THE letter states that he IL not authc rized transfer
the contract in the manner which DR.. Carmichael pro-
VI..t. ltw.tta "A -.
uld be required at time, and then only In such guam
tities as there were funds TO pay for them.l
| showed my answer 10 General Talcott The General
agreed with me that II was proper answer and
sidred that he approved Of my in declining to
make the transfer to Kemble The General did remark
to that the Secretary q War would be ncenscd and
justly such order for supplies should be hawked
about In market lie also did express surprise at tho
amount Of the order; but did not undcrstand him
reprovng me for having done few days after
writing that letter received from Captain Stone In
temporary command the arsenal at Fort Monroe during
my absence Of the contents Of which Informed General
Tslcott
THE letter Captain stone enclosing power Of attor.
nry from Doctor Carmichael In favor of n. Anderson
PRECEDENT Of the Tredegar Iron Works, was read
ON the receipt Of that letter from Capt stone wrote
10 him. with the appreciation and direction of General
Tocot and directed him to return the q attorney
MIR Anderson, and 10 state that Doctor Carmichael
hsd right TO transfer his order 70 him had no fur
Their communication with General Tacott the subject
he know that had declined the transfer Of the order
both TO Anderson and kcmbie returned to my poet.
and there received letter from Mr. Anderson argung
the legality Of the power Of attorney and denying that
any an,frr Of the order had been made to him
Exceptions by defence. Objected 60 evidence being
introduced Of any correspondence between third paric
which II Is not proved had been ratified or approved by
the accused
The Judge Advocate opposed the objection, aud the
court ordered 60 be cleared.
Upon opening. tho decided they would hear OBJ
askcd bus that the examination Of the witness
would proceed.
Estate all that occurred in regard 10 the execution
q the contract when yeu returned to Port Monroe.
Al do not consider the contract was executed on
my part declined In my letter 70 Mr. Anderson, writ
by Captain stone 20 have anything 10 do with the
contract. That official order sent To and was
not evoked by me in any had correspondence
with Mr. Anderson on the same subject
Q-ts not this letter written by you TO Mr. Anderson
Letter Of eth December, 1850 shown
Aye, sir; Il is my letter to him
Exceptions 10 the letter being read made by the de-
fence. Court cleared
iron rcopenog, Il decided that the letter should
he read.
Purport q letter that he (Tugcr) willing that
Anderson should have the contract, but that " would
FIRST be necessary to General Teott he much
incer std with General Talcott.