The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-03-26

Hdtu19Is VIII VIII very low WOTds, HOT eAtttuIH
hve m'os'ss adyise the Senate OF the grounds take
and whether vote for or against IL. When do 50.
WIN De upon my own responsibility. Up TO that period
shall yo's ior such amendments deem wise, Judicous
ahd proper lei the consequence be pretty much wha
may and sxsinsi all obe Ihave voted TO reduce the bill
have vod against anything that looked to increasing
OF load"F ~ s'.a continue an that general course
because zee very WE'LL and doubt not many others see
that by by there will be day OF settlement debt
pay that cannot be paid in glory and il will have to bt
PAID, nke oeo' OF Nature upon PIedes'ined day am
therefore opposed 10 swelling this bill beyond what sha
absolutely necessary for the exgeaces OF the public
service and Is tor that that vote to keep IN
as prudent shape as possible ready 10 vote upon
now, or Y any subsequent period hope II VIII mol
be struggled over upon Que side OF the Senate chamber
or the othsr because there great deal less to 90 made
ou! Of such nc matters than we suppose.
Mr. CAoS. have TO say one word IN answer to the
honorable senator from Kentucky. MIR. UsDERwooD
voted Tor that marine hospital al Evansyille but still
hold TO the general principle that estimates ought TO be
made BY the heads OF departments ask the honorable
senator II there 10 difference between voting seventy
live eighty thousand dollars for the construction OF
marine hospim, the general outline OF which perfectly
well undctsapd, and voting an Improvement TO the rivers
OIL in tbs w eat or North that knew any
thing about! cannot tell how much is required now,
or 70 what expenditure we will go and SO through ihe
whole nation, from end to the other. The honorable
senator maintains that estimate is necessary. What
have TO guide my mind How can the senator tell me
in all the neither surveyed estimatedhow can
he tell me what this government Is going to expend, or
by wha, plan the work to be finally executed! There
every diefence in the world Let say to the hon
oabe senator that do not believe that he put his
finger upon one in The statute book in which an APP
preparation las been made for object OF internal l.
provement without regular survey and estimate That
MI. UNDERWOOD. am not going TO enter into the
discussion at all simply rise to state that endeavor-
ed to show the other day that there could be no estimate
for the Mississippi ver that the thing was impossible
1t did continue to furnish snags and that 1t would De
very hard to prevent them long there are forests and
trees growing upon these banks, and that twas inn
possibility to make estimate in relation to improve.
,nents OF that character Now, sir, adverted 10 the
fact of the marine hospital Evansville because, al the
time that the amendment OF my friend from Indiana Mr.
BRIGHT] passed, not one word was said about estimates
and II there were any estimates, suppose there were
such be mentioned to-day. | will say that never
heard OF them at the time the amendment was osered
was not based upon estimates at the time, and never
heard OF them until this day, nor have examined them
now. think that proper to make the suggestion
TO the senator from Indiana, because II did seem TO me
that his upon this bill obecng to it for want OF
estimates was Little Inconsistent with his course then.
understood it, acting upon his own convictions, and
not upon estimates. @ .t. A.aA' E.s. d AL
MIR. RUSK understand the honorable senator from
Kentucky Mr. UNDERwooDlro refuse TO become mere
| register OF The DEGREES of the department--
| Mr.. UNDERWOOD, Un his seat) do.
MIR. RUSk. And ieel Just as unwilling 10 become
the register OF the DEGREES OF the House OF Repre-
Mr. UNDERWOOD, Gin his sea.) That is right. too.
MIR. RUSK. And submit it TO him that this whole
scheme OF the appropriation bill for ths Mississippi val
ley, upon which there two hundred and ily mil
lions OF dollars of annually, and upon which,
in the last three short months more than one hundred
lives have teen lost, may play second hddle Here are
only three hundred and fifty thousand dollars appropa.
ted lor that improvement; and when proposition was
made TO amend that BY putting il up TO ioor hundred
thousand dollars was il the Judgment OF the honorable
senator from Kentucky that il was too much Was II
the judgment Of the honorable senator from Kentucky
that lba besowng TOO much on the Improvement o
this river! Now. air. understood him TO proceed upon
another matter and thai is that must take this OF
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. Tin his seat) That's it.
MIR. RUSk. Well, sir. gentlemen throw out the
idea OF responsibility For one, sir, am not very
fond OF taking II, but there n responsibility tG
be incurred in that great valley OF the ssssippi and
when imagine that they are 10 bind that Foueal de-
vices can drive them oh from a ]ust CLAIM upon this
government TO improve that sectioawhen we Imagine
they are bind believe that, and sanction us
here in voting away millions IN another direction. while
give them mere pttauce, upon secondary CONSIDER,
ztion-they will find themselves mistaken. Thatis one OF
the objections that have this BILL that the respons
bility is political II is before the people to be made
political hobby desire to vote, when l vote money out
of the treasury for internal improvements for such OBJ
ects deserving and am Just as willing 10 regis
ter the DEGREES OF committee in the House OF Represent
atves, bill that they have passed against my own
Judgment and agans, my convictions OF right and
stce register the DEGREES OF the executive depart.
ment Three hundred and forty thousand dollars tor the
valley oi the Mississippi, Ii is approaching the rldcn-
lous II will do no good. And sir those who repre-
that great valley doing wrong when they yield II
appendage 10 any political scheme or any other
SORT of scheme 1t is large enough, extensive enough,
and important enough to stand upon its own botiom--o
60 through Congress upoa its own bottom, or sink
The question being then taken BY yeas and nays, re-
suited yeas nays 5l--as follows;
YEAs-Me..rs Chase, D,ugis., Hale, and Wnlker-t
NAYS-Me.srs A,ohison, Badger, Baldwin, Belt Ber.
ren, Boand, Bradbury, Bright, Butler, Cass, Clarke,
Clay, Clemens Cooper, Davis oi chose DAVIS oi
noi q ows D.~is p'sso E.@s fs foes g
Han,iip Housou Hunter. Jones, King Mapgam, Mason,
Miller Morton Norris, Pearce, Rautou Rusk, Sebastian,
sewsrd Shields, smith, Sone, Spruance Surgeon, Tar
ney, Underwood. Upbau,, Wales, WhNcomb, and Yaee-
MIR CLEMENS demanded the yeas and nays upon the
amendment moved by Mr. BRADBURY; which were
dered, and being taken, resulted-yeas 80 nays 2e-as
follows
YEAs-Me..rs Acbson, Beniep, Bradbury, Bright,
inson Douglas. DJwn Felch, Foote Gvln Hsmlin Hons
ton Hanrer, KING Mason, Morton, Nofri., Khst Rusk,
s,ne Sturgeon, lurney. Whiieoub, and Ynlees ar5s
NAYS Mersrs Badger. Bsdwin, Bsn, Bodapd, Chase,
cstse Clay Cooper D,vis OF Massschu.ens Dodge OF
Wisconsin, Dodge OF lows, Ewing. Greene Hale, Jones,
Mangnln Miller Peace, PRATT Rsntoul sebastian, Sew
ard, shields, Smith, Spruanee, Underwood, uPham,
Wales and Weker-9.
So the amendment was not agreed to.
Mr. FOOTE rise to make the usual motion ior This
hour II is now half past O'Clock, and we should rec
collect that while legislators we are still human
beings and must have some food 10 sustain ns; and
therefore move that we take recess from the present
bour To 6 O'Clock this evening n.
Several SENATORS Five O'clock.
Mr. FOOTE will modify my motion to meet al
: M MMr' DICKINSON, objec, 10 that Some Of us dine
ats, fiat all Let ii be ill 8. w
Objection being made TO the recess, =,
Mr FOOTE moved 10 lay the bill upon the table, win
a view 10 take recess ....
Mr. HUNTER, Is il no, in order TO submit motion
for a recess al any lime n. ...E..E..
The PRESIDENT, The Chair is Of the contrary opn-
/ Al, uI1NTER i am no, aware of the rule in the