Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-07-04

God deal Of trouble, growing out of the hurry Of our
roceen"gs, Inregard 10 the phraseocgy of particular
'oPosi':"'s We find necessary In the Legislature to
sep CONSTANT committees OF conference between the
-" houses TO correct the prasco,ogy and occasionally
ogeest word or two BY way Of amendment in order
"cotspete propositions. The committee has no power
MsuPs 70 reportto the convention such amendments
80 80 may aeen necessary. / apprehcnd that twill
ae Sood deal OF time and difficulty but as il is i'm
table. ''' 'A' 'e'ou''ou w 0'o
Inc motion 10 lay on the table was agreed 10.
DISPENSING WITH THE TAKING OF YEAS AND NAYS IN
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
| Mr. CLAIBORNE. desire 10 make q motion h,.
( it meets With any opposition will Withdraw II 40
do not wait to raise any discussion at this time tn
question of The basis OF representation is no longer To
considered IL committee OF the whole and there
Ore move 10 re2cni the resolution authorizing tina
cas- and nays be taken in committee Of the whole on
| ii questions.
Mr. CAMDEN. That resolution only applied to tn,
'asi- question.
The PRESIDENT. 1NppIied to all questions.
Mr. Dir; ), VOOLFOLK NyNwn impression is the. it
ppes 10 all questions. desiN that tho vote Of everv
entle;n'n upon all questions, gAsn in committee Of
he whole shall be recorded fer Nove known gentle.
TO vote enc way in committee and another NAV in
h. house. Laughter. should like the record TO to
sept.
Mr. FERGUSON. So far as l am Concerned ;f1
i've vote i'll comlli'tc. which am afterwards salts
ed is wrong, when the proposition comes into tho
iou.e, shall change that vote and therefore that rea
on seems to 10 Ec at all. The object Of
;oing into committee Is TO give gentlemen larger liber
y, 10 erable them TO take greater latitude in debate
md to save time in calling Tie yeas and nays. II seems
0 me that aeTe can be no prorriety upon all other
questions, and was in great doubt aS TO the proprety
even upon the basis question, Of departing from tho
OCULAR parIamen:ar: rule and requiring tic yeas
avs to te taken in conm!ttt Of the whole,
Dir. VOOLFOLK called for the yeas and nays ond
hey urIerd
Mr.. FISHER. | move TO amend the resolution by
,GL, these words and Ike resolution that requires
this body to meet at 30 clock Laughter
The question tskcn on The amendment and
division being had il was rot agreed tc--ayes II,
ices d.
Mr. FISHER l will try another amendment. 7
to amend that resolution as provide that the
onyenon shall hereafter at clock instead Of
9 o'clock.
CRlEs; or agreed
Dir: TAYLOR. submit that that amendment i, not
in ortey.
The PRESIDENT. l, does no, appear 10 the chair
that the amendment is in order 1t must form distinct
proposition. The congrl;tv Of amendments, it is
not for the chair 10 determine bu he does think
that this proposition distinct proposition changing tho
hour Of meeting, Ii german TO the subc, md can BIZ
received Is an amendment to this resolution.
The Yea, and nays were then taken on ,!r CLA-
GoRSES motion, aud resulted yeas ~, na:s 30 as
follows
AyEs-Nessrs. Mason, (president,) Armstrong Ar.
thur Bland, Billie Bolts, Bowdcn, Camden, ChGmblios
Chapman, Chiffon. Claiborne, Dencale, Fa:nner Fer.
.;uson Floyd, Fukcrson, Fultz, Gay, Garland Hays
Hill, llose, jacob. Ja'ney. johnson, kgore, Knote,
Lyon Lucas McCanaul McCant!sh, McComas, Mar
lin Of Henry, Meredith Miller Neeson Rives, Saunders,
Scott Of FuuYuirr. Seymour, Shell, Snefts Sloan,
Smith "i ks:,aT:, SGiI;. u jackson, Smith of Greeu.
brier Stephenson Stewart Of Morgan Stuart Of Patrick
Summers. Tate, Tayor, Trigg. Tuns Wax Wrinkle,
tuft &c nf Rns
Williams Of Shenandoah. Winstield-6o.
Nols-3cssrs. Banks. Barbour, Dowle- Burgess Cox,
Davis, finnry Fisher, Flood Fuqua, 81 l. H. Garrett.
Goute, Hail. Z! pkn-, Jones, kcuncy, Lynch, Martin
If Marshall, Petty, Randolph, Ridley, Scoggin Scott
ii Caroline Scott Of Richmond city, stanard, STROLLER,
I'urbu, White, Wooiiolh-2o.
So the molten WAS agreed TO-
RENT or rnr rSIyERsal,sr CHURCH.
Mr. MARTIN, CT Marshall. offer the following
Resolred, That committee of fva members BIO 40
pointed to settle with The Trustees Of the Jniyer,alis
church for the of their church edce during tho
line il was occupied b. tie Convention, and that said
committee report the amount due thereon, that said &C.
count ma" certified for payment.
Mr.. TAYLOR. would suggest to the gentleman to
amend his resolution So n. TO refer 10 the committee
on that subject.
The PRESIDENT There wa. committee appoint
I'd TO make aDgements fer the accommodation of the
Convention. This matter could not be appropriately
contract has been made with the Universalist church.
Mr.. MARTIN. not that there was
committee having charge olthe subject.
The PRESIDENT. The chair does not understand
hat there was comnltte appointed which would have
,harge Of this matter.
The question was then taken and the resolution wa,
greed to-
Mr. WINGFlELD. rise TO move that the report of
lie committee Of the whole together with the substi.
Ute offered by the genteman from Heurico MR. Boi1s)
,e taken up for consideration.
The question being taken, the motion agreed TO-
The PRESIDENT. The pending question when tie
ubjecb was laid on the table, the motion of the
entlelran from Herrico, CIR Bo1Ts)
Mir WlEGFIEI.D rise to request the gentleman
rom Uenrico (Mr EoTTs) to Withdraw his proposition
moment and allow the authors of the compromise
le:,sure TO perfect theirs.
The PRESIDENT. The proposition Of the gentleman
ON Hcrco Mr.. BoT1s) Is to strike out the PROPOSE
adopted i'll committee OF the whole and IN .ert his
wn in lieu thereof 1t IL i'll order to amend the amend.
lent reported by the committee OF TIE whole in it's va
"as parts before the question Is taken upon striking
Ut
sIr. ROTTS. have Nh object to accomplish, arr
mink gentlemen will be better satisfied If submit
remarks upon this subject, which do in less
han five minutes. desire to afford gentlemen OPP
ortunty Of si.isivlng tnense es in Relation 10 the cal
u,atou5 have made. think it roper 10 say, that
ave secn in one Of the morning papers. mean the
Richmond Times statement that the result Of the pro-
osition have offered would give majority Of three
the east in the House OF Delegates and majority Of
ne in the Senate 1t will be recollerted by the Conven
on when was asked a few days ago, what the result
the proposition uld be, stpted ] believe that it
ould be precisely equal to seventy five to the and
to the in tie House aud twenty.fv
the and twenty FIVE to the vest III the Senate.
have seen no reason to change opinions or calcua-
OTIS upon the subject. it may be- ! made come mis-
Ike in the calculation. It is questi however that
.lt not be left conjecture for it is important to
&c members know what would be the result, and
a. i,,.,l aap ia,
n that of the Editor of the Times. For that purpose
prnIpos. 20 read very short extract from the speech
made some time ago upon this question, furnishing
lie data By which gentlemen can work out thoir own
sults
Continued fran, Srhnien''nh No. 80.