The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-06-29

heavy cannon while Mr. wilkins was Secretary of
War. have examined the records, and can find none
other
Question What form and mode of making such
contracts have been followed in all other cases. or gen.
orally!
Aasvey The form has generally been to give an or.
der to founder directing him 10 make for the Ordnance
department certain number OF cannon proleciiles
That has been the general rule The formal written
ract-wrllten in rplicate-nade by Mr. Secretary Will
kins IS the exception. | say written in tripicate be-
II the regulation followed il was written
bul am not sure thai was can examine the books,
Question You say the form OF making these contracts
has been BY giving orders to founders Have these or,
XnsUsr They have been given ID writing. and bv the
chief OF the Ordnance department
Question. Is there any established form Of language in
which orders have been expressed!
AasUer. The orders sometimes bear their face the
evidence OF having been given by the direction of the
Secretary OF War; and are no stated but more frequently
they bear no such evidence emanang from The chief OF
Question. Have you knowledge OF particular instan.
wherein the order does that it is given by
direction of the Secretary of War, and was yet in point
OF fact given in pursuance OF his nstruclons Or are
you able to state generally how this Tact has been in
such casesl
Answsr. | have no knowledge on that subject
never questioned the authority Of the Colonel OF Ord
nance, where he got his authority.
Question Is the usage OF the Ordnance department, in
ordinary Speech and in letters and reports to the War De-
parment, to style these engagements between the gov
eminent and the founders contracts
AastOer We sometimes call them contracts, and
sometimes orders We are not particular IN the use OF
Question. Does the bureau make consolidated re.
port to the War Department OF contracts and purchases
annually and is such report sent TO Congress with the
Executive message!
Answer The bureau makes annually to the Secretary
OF War statement OF all contracts made. and separate
made be laid before Congress- in compliance with the
fifth section Of the act of Sd March, 1909.
Question Under which head in these reports or state
Saruf haca nrda f..fn rn1ar
AnsUtr Under the head of open purchases.
Question. How are your small arms designated in ref
ence to the fabrication
AnsDer As national armory and as contract arms
Question. How are these last procured!
Ansacsr From private manufactures Formerly they
were generally on written contracts, according to the
forms prescribed by law and regulations, but sometimes
extensions Of those contracts by written orders Lat
terly think they have been procured more generally
and open purchases. state that all purchases for
small arms during the years ending in December, 1885,
s47 ls4s. and ls49 reported being made by open
purchase. e
Question Did the Secretary of War call on the Ord
department the 2lst January OF this year for
statement OF all contracts chageable upon certain appro
priatiOns!
Answer. He did.
Question. Did you answer the call
AnsSer. prepared the answer from the records of
the Ordnance office, and took it 10 General Talco,t who
temporarily confined to his quarters by indsposi
ton
Question. In this report to the Secretary. in answer
" doOut ~ COHtIdCS
and style contracts engagements written orders
Ansuer | did No other species OF contracts con.
shutting charges upon those appropriations then existed
to my knowledge. At General Talcot's suggestion for
more complete explanation TO the Secretary, added
specifying the articles and quantities to be delivered
under the orders The particular phraseoogy Of the
10 my own
The Judge Advocate here stated that he had exhibited
the papers 10 the witness 10 enable them be put
acty evidence The words of The papers about contracts
themselves belong TO and part OF the case and there
fore not offered for correction
The defence made no objection.
Question Have abstract showing the contracts
and open purchases from Wellford's foundry
.ansper. have none with me.
Mr. Anderson recalled.
Question. Who paid the freight on the 90 FOUNDER
shot sent to Fort Monroel
.4as,Der. 1t paid by the commanding officer the
arsenal at Old Point
Question. Have you refunded it
aasUer. have not refunded ii and Col. Huger in
the customary quarterly settlement which has since taken
SAGE has not charged me with this freight the
public account between the United States and my estab
shment for iron, shells for experiments and such other
articles the Fort Monroe arsenal procured from
Question. Has he given you notice Of any such charge
against you in any private ACCOUNT
.qas1oer. None have no private account with Col
Huger.
Question. Where did Doctor Carmichael live Of late
years and what his occupation and what his pc
cuniary responsibility
aasrer He has lived in Richmond of late years; he
is physician and think he is generally regarded as in
solvent.
On motion, the court adjourned ill Monday morning
at 10 o'clock.