The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-05-22

the great unoer winch We Mbor. frOvNOn made
for peacesbs and csusttuons division Of church pro-
perry every kind Tho plan does not decide that div-
sion sian take place. but simply, and II Is thought So
curey provides that u May IL IL be found necessary
on this necessity you TO be the judges after
full survey and comparison Of all the reasons for and
-sAs the undersigned have had opportunity and ad-
vantsges which those At distance could possess
form correct Judgment in the premises and 1t may be
expected Of them that they their views fully
the subject they do not hesitate say that they regard
sepsration at distant dsy inevitable; and further
tat the plan OF separation agreed upon Is eligible
the Southern conferences have any right expect any
time We most respectfully, therefore, and with no
anu membership in the sgvehoiding States, 10 examine
this matter carefully and weighing well in AL its bear
ngs Try to reach the conclusion most proper under the
circumstances. Shall that which, in all likelihood
NUT take place soon be attempted now or are there
reasons why il should be postponed.
"Wedepreeate all cxcitement ask you TO be calm
and collected and to approach dispose Of the sub
ect with all the candor and arance the OCCASION
demands The separation proposed IS not scism II is
not secession 1t Is state or family into Two
different states or families, by mutual consent As the
Meth ,dist Episcopal Church will be found North Of
the dividing line, the Methodist Episcopal Church
will be found South of the same line
The undersigned have chung to the cherished unity
Of the church with rmness Of purpose and force Of
feeling which nothing but invncble necessity could
subdue IT, however nominal unity must coezist with
unceasng strife and alienated feeling what is likely to
be gained by its perpetuatioD Every minister and
member Of the Church In slaveholdiug States must
perceive at once that the constant not 70 say ntern
able agitation Of the slavery and abolition question in
the councils Of the church, and elsewhere must ermi-
nate in incalcuable injury to all the Southern cone
rences Our to slave and master is to great
tent cut on The legislation OF the church ir conflict
With that Of the Staechurch policy attempt
troll public opinion and social order. generate
amount Of hostility to the church imp ssibc be
come and slowly but certainly diminish both the
nd the hope OF usefulness and extension the part Of
The church.
Disposed however to defer to the Judgment OF the
church We leave this subject with you Our first and
most direct object has been bring fully before you
ana, giving you an opportunity &c judge and determine
for yourselves await your decision The minority from
the South in the late General Conf renee were NEST
anxious to adjourn the decision in the case Of Bishop
Andrew with all its attendant results to the annual
conferences and to the church at large, to consider
and decide upon during the next four y.ars-as NO
charge was presented against the bishop, and esrc-
cially az this measure was urgently recommended by
the whole bench Of bishops although Bishop neddng
subsequently withdrew his name The proposition how
ever. to refer the whole subject the church, wes
promptly rejected by the majority and Immediate action
the equivocal suspension Of Bishop Andrew will
before You in other forms, 1t IL unnecessary to detail
tho nj in this brief address the main ect OF which
II TO place before you in summary way the princi-
pal facts and connected with the proposed epa
ration Of the Southern Conferences into distinct orgG
nization.
Adopted at meeting OF the Southern delegations
held in New York, at the close of the General Confer
sncs June nth 1874, and ordered 10 be published
Tennessee North Carolina Memphis Arkansas virginia
Aifsssppi eAas Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina
Counsel then with view to abridge the reading re-
ferred tho court TO the reports Of the Committees
Separation and also those Of the from Ten
nessee, Memphis, Mississippi Arkansas. Virginia, North
report Of North Carolina, which said -
Nothing was left for the South to do bat TO pess
fom under the jurisdiction Of 80 hayward power to
the regulations and government of old wholesome,
and scrptural discipline This, sorrow when we say
It, has opened great gLfwe fear impossible gulf
between the North and the South. This consolation,
however, il other they have-the good Book Of Dis
cplne, containing the distinctive features OF the Me-
thodist Episcopal Church shall s lie on the south side
anna- uhi fftA fhar1 x
alevatsd nor controed-whch neither the entrea.ies
Of Kindness the force Of truth could cesfuy
from those whom we not only esteem but love- Better
far that we should SUITE the loss OF union than that
thoufands, yea millions Of souls should perishn
lie then referred the reports from the conferences
OF South Carolina the Indian Mission Georgia Florida
Texas and Alabama in all fifteen sixteen conferences
which recommended Southern conference Of the church
He then read Bishop soulcs address 10 tho Convention
Of Southern delegates in ls45 The pastoral address
page o. he would not read but begged that would h.
considered as read At page 81 the Court would find
the report OF the committee organization which anti
cpatcs all the argument that tho counsel for tho plain
tins could advance ON their side 1t Of the most
able Of all the documents IL continues to page lol
understood to be the production Of the late Bishop
in book Of Proofs Nc and parsuiary 70
Pages 10 1896 20 show that the discipline of the Metho
dist Episcopal Church net changed.
This closed the evidence part Of the plaintiffs.
The Court asked II there was any testimony TO be Offer
d by the defendants
Mr. Ewing replied in the affirmative. and that 1t would
occupy about an hour in reading.
Adjourned to wednesday morning, alto o'clock.
THIRD DAY.
NAy II AT the sitting q the court this morning Mr.
Choate ad he would have few additional references
read to the court hut he had made ARRANGEMENTS with
MI Lora to oner them after he gets through For the
Information Of the counsel he stated the References
they page l36 Of First Book Of Proofs LIT Of the
journal Of General Conference OF 1876 the proceedings
votes cast In favor Of the alteration which $50 the
number required also from 31 70 14 Of First Book Of
S %ss to h ss .Sy Of the
Conference isal page So TO show that Bishop Andrew
voted on the hrst q June 70 second Book Of Proofs
page 100 and First Book pages ~ ~ AZ He would read
those references after sIr Lord had closed
Mr Lord. in commencing his address said that there
we're all agreed about which there Il doubt. and tina,
i that Immediately preyiou. 10 the separation in the
year isA all the 'upsrnumerary and supcranaus,sd
had been prcach,r In the South, entitled 20 in
tcrsst In the fund 81 the Book Concern, we'll per-
sons in such relations belonging the Northern parts
Whatever that fund was-if mere charity--it seemed
10 him that matter Of right all Of the suporannuael
preachers wives widows and orphans were entitled TO
participate In IT, profits II may be said that the fund
was TO be distributed by the General Conferences but Il
Lad no discretion that subject The General Conference,
without an utter abandonment u Its primary duty had
nothing to do with H. but ~ that 1t passed
70 be distributed by the Annual Conference The latter
had no Interest stake In the matter except that
Christian they 70 that the funds should "
applied 10 those whom they should find within their dis
iricis 70 be travelling supcrnumcrary pcrsnn.scd
OF worn out their vives widow. and Orphans
they bad discretion TO nct them for mcriterious
conduct; all they bound inguirc was these
preachers Deficient In travelling cxrcuecs Were they
sperann they the wives widows children
II preachers VIII scarcely b. denied that these benz
triaries had k 10 this fund through the administra-
tors q Its fundno title by legal security what l.
called equity, lu. II became right established debt
81 conscience and Il honor Counsel then proceeded IN
define his views q charities and 70 show that this
not charitable fund specific trust which has nil-
,iduals who marked out for periods 81 time under
Ind, finite limitations Ia perpctuity for life charity
u truet whore the bsnsfciarics IN by casual
conformity IT, the discipline "a the charity for In
stance, enc Of the poor living IN Water street may
come Ia for charity which next year h. msy not
b. entitled TO. suppose. then that he (Mr. Iori)
right to the title % tbese benefciari.s
aud suppose that the widows and children had those
tights tho question comos ur have they those rights
ttili Why have they not those rights stu Arr they
not Methodist Have they departed from the doctrine
or discipline Of the Methodist Ic meant the tcnsf.
Charles whom he rtprc scntcdare they IA conuu-
nion with tho Meihodst Church Have thor ever boon
iried The gentlemen on the other I'D. have put it
their answer, that thny have forfeited thoe rghts Nv
secession SECESSION rom what, And the question -