Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-04-29

an your metropolitan press comes out an 's' 's Una
&c itemen infamous. and To be handed over L
lnftmy, if they compromise at all.
lr. LYONS. If they violate their Fus'-H icy
break their prcdgas.
Nr. WISE. no. sir; :her. ar" Inc words.
NJ. YONS. ,Iv anr,rar.s'.ts '.lr" '""n s'rh 'h;
have not even rca. the article, but IN SUI ITO rcs
of Richmond held :at language. Nhai nae !h'!er
stood the press of r"hlnon to say. 1n! "at 'h"'ll'
ihink erery member q - Convention "au:, CONF III
IS, that u man comes nc: 20 this Convention, pedgc'
hciore ms constituents Ia particular course upon
particular question Of principle! h: !, mol - All NeJ
TO break that pledge.
Mr.. Wise. great Question oi principle Wow
want to stnp this hypocricv # =" ci!'' 81 me
rags that surround IT. II i,a rvs. to ini"t tender COZ
sciences With What does i, ua.,,: Ea" .!e1y IN:
ss.'tie'nan :rDh tin 4.stern -cctioU 81 'L:e -
'':na ~ here AID sa7 hal h, vas n:dged T. ny pr
t:'uar form OF the n:x@l b;.,is h. ~; cave oesi
r:o!se6 for tie principle. io,r t!a liberty ID he
,'*encc os ElT friend ion kor:UIs i'r :WLoR,y to
promise Tor him thnt he :gvr r.e-r.a r'c iscse he
gave. he mas declared here Is ms Ircrd IRON Rich
L'ond AIR Scorr) declared SautdaE honestly and
calilidy that he is not pledged TO any particular form
OF the mixed basis, but will combine population with
taxation. Do 1t! No .sks .,s o-.er' rom
that principle if your convictions are in favor OF it,
but Go not tell ME that you pledged to make pro.
perry the basis for seyentyiSe out Of hundred and
fifty delegates.
Dir. LYONS. have not said that every man was
pledged to any particular basis, but to the principle
and understand that 10 be the declaration OF the
Wig
Mr. WISE with nv friend wnai only read the
article in the Wig which noticed aud commented on
few days ago
DIR. LYONS. While nm up allow me to say that
hope when the gentleman used iis term hrr"cricT OF
pledges. he did not intend TO refer 10 mo-
Mr.. WISE Certan!y not. | meant nothing per
sonal. was referring to the article in IL" ImF.
say that article is outrage irtepeide.n Z" mna
and thought here. As said on Saturday. 1t ATTACKS
the independence of action OF this body when 1t rdri-
takes that the mixed basis which lies on that Ia
HE is ;hs mixed basis and that man who departs
from the mixed bass-not mixed bas%-sliail oe
handed over to IniamY. | say that il Is hypocrltlca
pretence. And when gentlemen reminded OF tLeii
pledges say. and defy contradiction hy any eastern
member THIS floor that there is not ole Of them that
Is pledged; 10 any particular mixed basis. that II Is any
th2g aud everything that you please make I'-tha
yo mag compose II OF white spirits. and grey spirlt4
an; black >I.rits-uf dollars and cents OF anc-tha
YOU MAJ have it permanently upon property or Gp"f
property II its representative character Of industrial
value that YOU will have different proportions and ar
infinite variety OF proportions, and th.t soise VI tn,
fair proportions will actual, give the wesr majority
in the Legislature That is what say and tf"t thl
pledge neel bind mars conscience vote for either
Of the propositions the table thai ,o, nave margin
in which ana in which 10 trrc. lou are not
bo;nd here hen. and foot This plea nj ricd;". les
the cencalan from Richmond o-dar, first 10 drny IN,
power Of the pcopeto deny that The people, and The
people only to be trusted.
MIR. LYONS. No never denied il iitcll,ied
VIXEN the gentleman from AccoUlac had made MS speech
aud taken his 'eat. the singular error into
which he ie but n,ay well 10 i, now.
| never denied the power OF the people TO Regulate
and control their government, and base 1t "nere
and how they please. | denied this risnt.
never will while retain niv senses. knowingly main
tain other principle than thu; the people haze IL"
power and the right change :heir form! OF over1e
they please AID make IL what they Choose. But ~
of the people say that Will vote TO put
the government into the hands of nero numbers.
will 60 before nv people will discuss il With them,
will debate ii with them and Ill tel! them why-be-
cause although they have the power do ii would
be suicidal act in them t" do it. That government
which is not based to ;,ropcr;: veil
lite is pure tuu.ultuous dcnocraG. ami Ike ali that
have gone before must end in anarchy and revolt
ron and leave either under military ,.,spo.
Mr. WISE. The gentleman distinctly admits, and
more Extensively than charge: on him. that vhich |
placed to hi charge. That Ike people har" power 70
commit suicide he =ln!its but he y aid them 10
do it. II il would De the that he people by
ercisn2 their own power. wuld cor...iit suicide help
me God never woulI eniru=L them with it But
do not think TIL gentleman talks about tunultu
democracy Sir l. not that gentleman fet0rrer.
and willing extend t,s right oil suffrage every
Mr. LTO S. No, unless he pays those taxes which
are levied upon him by the government; Let the law
IL; the dues and then let ,:,ra pay hi- ltcs before IL
is permitted to .xers$e the rich! u! -nt!ra"-
Ar. WISE This constitutional privilege crest Upon
the fact whether he PAYS @ cents tax or . cents az
How MANY would he gentlcn,ans limitations l.,;
Why IN hun ire" votes And :!e voters WHO
have the power rg,"fr, create alter. abolish tn
government under winch lbs: 1--we. tines tumult,..
o.. Democracy Mt he polls are the. 10 ray. he
power at the po- o,ainaIIy. and thy then - be
checked-not by til proper limitation Of the govern
rnsat-bu; by governmental majority in the le;is,.
ture!
Mr. LYONS. Would you vote Tor a government in
which the people ogeher at til. polls 10
make the laws there. If vca would not WIN would
YOU object TO ii, except that ou dono. th that power
should be given ~ them
M:. WISE. The gcnl.-ma hall not escare ne ii
;u9: va; ,,hrr. Il. question nere /. a.. VII. Der
foa, i'i,k, Frry snail ~ 10 .ne cap. 81 81 salj
=, h. the polls lri there ye-c.s. T.. p0..,, LIZ. .r,.
exercised yoa'rf capitol. That i not d. l:est;p
,uh il !. whether tnc ro-il At tic POLLS ,all have til.
.aioricy IN the legislative as5".oii F'Lt c ae,.5e-
an 4avs thai rather thar ,ru., the re1fI. with that
power he will resign his sIat that he would not allow
til. people commit suicide. Now let lis have no eva
sion, no lodging upon this Question.
Mr.. LYONS. never dodge any Question
Mr.. WISE No man can entertain TIE sentiments
expressed BIZ that gentleman who will not div. at tie
flash every time the gun = pointe, at him
Mr. LYONS. When DO it, it will be seen
Mr.. WISE. l am, Of course. ing this in the
utmost kindness to my friend He knows I would say
nothing here to wound his feelings am contending for
n principle, and mean to fight hard, and with ali my
might.
Mr.. LYONS. So dol
Mr. WISE. Now L have driven the gentleman to
the wall. Laughter
Mr.. LYONS. Not YOU. laughter.
hIr. WISE Now, will the people of Richmond stand
this doctrine that the majority of the people IT the
polls not TO have The majority Of representatives it,
the legislature, because the people wer- not 10 be
trusted with the protection of person and property
Eolt zs ~ THE GALLERY oHriIE F!.ooR 20 mol no
Mr. wise. viii the people OF Richmond stand any
such doctrine II there be any danger Of this sentiment
being adopted By this Convention, am for going out
amon the people again and letting them speak. wi!
spy that far my constituents concerned ard
believe that can speak for thcn for know them well
will stake my lie upon every county and ever neigh
bvrhood upon that ssGe. will array the mixed basis
men themselves against such sentiment : that.
The gcrtlemans colleague tNlr Bor1s) requests ne
to ask him CIR. Lross) whether he would trust the
property OF Richmond itself to the protection Of 4
ma oritv Of the voters OF Richmond.
Mr LYO.,'S ccrtaialv would. because such voters
appointed BY l@w TO control the property must
control the property.
Mr. WISE. Because they must Is that the reason
they are to be trusted 1aughter.l