The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-06-26


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muit.sy Court Martial,
Convened for The trial Of Brsvei Br,sader General
Ialcou Colonel and Chief Of The Bureau Of Ord
nance.
THIRD DAYS PROCEEDINGS.
The record OF yesterday read
Cross examination Of The Secretary Of Wm-eontnued
Question You stated in your direct examination yes
terday that when you asked Mi. Carmichael II he had
any evidence OF the recognition OF his contract. he
swered that the papers IN the would show II and
that you thereupon asked General Tacou il the papers
he held in his hand were the papers IN The case to which
he answered they and handed them to you upon
your request Have you any knowledge that the said
papers, which, according TO your collection, hand
ed 10 you by General Taco other less than the
true papers, necessary TO the decision OF the question
whether such recognition had IN TACT ana law osen
made'
Question. You have stated that the said bundle oil
papers" contained the original decision itself OF Mr. Sec
rotary Crawford upon the validity OF the SAID alleged con-
tract Are you able 10 state What other papers u con-
tanned?
Ans,uer | do not know that il is an originals !
am not sufficiently acquainted with his handwriting
do not think that exaned any other paper in the pack
age except the letter OF Mr. Crawiord referred 70 IN my
testimony OF Yesterday took up that because saw the
name of Mr.. Crawford appended TO II. asked Doctor
Carmichael il that was the paper which contained MI
Crawfords recognition. He said II was; and he never
alluded to other han .ne pns IN Won,
curry whether there contract made with Mr. Craw
ford what induced you TO ask General Talcol if they
Aas,oer presume that induced 10 ask that
question because the idea occurred to me that they
the papers, would look Tor the recognition spoken
Question If General Talcot brought wit him, and Held
coptcuouy IN has hand before you the papers touching
dse,son against Inn b. Mr trawjord could you sup
pose that he meant, knowingly, 10 endorse an unruh.
the Of exposing Wich he himself at the same time.
as you say held openly under your eye in such
IN lead understand re.
ferred to!
Ansper did not say that he held the papers conspc-
uousy before me- as TO invite my attention, but he
held the package openly in his hand Upon the suppos
ton that would examine the papers-sucha design is
not supposabe--but, upon the suppostion that might
ssen with the fact of his having the papers in his hand
Question Can you suggest reason why General
Tacou should have brought these papers before YOU ut
he did, while he meant to give countenance TO an asser
ton plainly retuted by them
Anspsr. could only give suspicious ! do not
to give them ! know no facts desire to correct
my answer Speaking OF suspicious, | do not mean to
say that then entertained any suspicion. thought
that General Talcos conduct strange and singular
and reflected after they had left the and also
the day afterso much SO, that made an impression
my memory 1t struck me as strange at the time, and
in consequence OF what General lalcott after
wards said on the subject.
Question Did Doctor Carmichael make any other ap-
phca,on TO you than that specified IN the interview in
former had made him?
das,cer. Doctor Carmichael urged upon me to allow
him TO make quantity of shot, partly on the ground OF
positive contract and partly on of equitable cir.
cumstances which he Northumberland as having made
aangemnst to comply with the contract and having been
disappointed and in fact used every means to induce
to give him contract, other people do who want
make with the government, and mentioned among
other things that he was going to live in my city, New
Orleans. | was Rfexibe, however and perhaps showed
little impotence, because thought he had attempted
to introduce deception upon me- and be finally gave up
in despair.
Question Please 10 state at what time you left this
city in the fall Of 1850; and when did you returns
Answer. | left in the early part of October, and
gone a fortnight or twenty days | returned the 23d
October, 1850 the records OF the department show,
and resumed the business OF the department the cath
Question by the Court Was there anything in the
circumstances inconsistent with the supposition that
General Talcott, after Doctor Carmichael had finished
his argument would at that interview, have given the
opinion he afterwards expressed. VIZ that there was no
time, had not come TO the same opinion by the pc
rusal Of Mr.. Crawford's letter
Aner Inc resson n why my subpse a. nen era
there a written recognition of the contract by Mr..
Crawford, increased by his remarkng the next day.
or day two alter, that was right in my decision by
deciding that there recognition, this had
supposed il possible that General Talcott agreed with
Doctor Carmichael in thinking that the letter signed by
but when he afterwards said that he agreed with that
there was no such recognition my surprise at his silence
increased, because did not know how to account for it.
Captain Maynader recalled.
Question In making your report to the Secretary of
War in May 1850, did General Talcott express TO
you opinion upon the subject
1nsrtr. do not recolect 10 have heard General
Talcot express opinion that subjsc but in writing
that report in charge of the department during his
porary absence endeavored TO express exactly what
thought would be his views If present. was in the
habit OF writing reports sometimes without previously
consulting General Tacott, and then submitting them to
him for his examination and it very rarely that
any official question disagreed al all therefore have
no doubt that if General Tacou had been present he
would have signed the report made and that it
would have gone the Secretary with his signature in
approved my report. have quite distinct recollection
that showed him the report shortly after his return in
May or June 1850; and am quite certain that he
pressed his appreciation OF il in March OF this year.
Question Has not that report stood from that day TO
this the official report in Doctor Carmichaefs case
dnsuer II has so stood.
Question. Do you know that any other subsequent
occasion for any report other official action OF
the bureau in that matter before Doctor Carmichael
brought up the to Mr.. Conrad last fall
hnsrer do not.
Judge ADVOCATE Mr.. President. propose the defence
admit that he al Willard's Hotel on the 23d Octo-
Der, 1850 [Admi,,ed.l
Colonel B Huger sworn.
Question Will you relate to the court the facts and
circumstances attending your giving Doctor Carmichael
in November last order 10 furnish supplies TO the Ord
nance department
Ansoer. Very early in November last Doctor Carmi-
chael to Old Point Comfort, (Fon Monroe UNDER
stood from Washington. He stated to me
Counsel for defence The accused objects TO any est,-
mony being given declarations statements by Doctor
Carmichael OF the purport scope OF declarations Of
phi he he accused. being present, have