Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-20

know.
,oselC ,r Tho substitute of the gentleman from Fuuquer
,oorc VA IN Liauk aud the proportions arc not asccr
;nnd bv !, although 10 tells lis his view is to have
lbaIr nerson4 and half taxation He admits, by not fill
ing the blanks that there may hea difference OF opinion
~ thc snIrct wish to know. when am called upon
n I tr.se blanks by what rule the proportions to
h, dtarn,;ned have looked 1T it in every light and
can find no relation between persons and property hy
-brb can arrive at any conclusion upon the subject.
should like know whether hall and half Is the rule
for MI mixtures I wish to know if gentleman may
NOT have hi. chuice whether he will take water with his
brandy or brandy with his water laughter or whether
lit is ALWAYS TO be taken half and hall. nppreEend
some gentlemen would give Their preference to the sn-
ncrior article There may be means Of COMPARE
son bet ween these two ingredients cannot conceive OF
any between persons and property
Nr WISE lin his seat.l Some want all brandy.
II Mr. VAN WlNkLE. Yes there some who like
to take raw Laughter They can take either by
itself but il seems the ingredients Of representation
cannot he taken separately, varied in quantity.
hone gentlemen upon the other side will al least az
cmu 10 show us; for am sure there must be others
upon nv side who are as ignorant as am upon this
isubicct hope they will show us the relation between
persons and property by which The due proportions in
which they should he mingled can he determined But
f should not then he ont of the difficulty. am still III
e doubt | wish to know il you determine that IN tr-
lgnia the proportion shall be hafand hail. whether the
Same rule will apply The other States For instance,
II should like 10 know what would be the proper rule
for South Carolina ain old that is the rule IN South
Carolina and should further like TO know If there is
arvthing in the situation OF the two States that is SC
e homogeneous, 10 use word frequently employed here,
e 81 much alike that the rule should be the same in both
l. ui these States If that Is affirmed, then iiler
l. wish know whether the same rule VIII apply TO The
II other States Of the Union, whether there differ
ID ence in The relation OF men and property anywhere
", throughout this Union that would give different rule
a in an, oi the States. If shouldbc the same, should
= still llcr like know if the principle IS OF universal
At application aud the rule the same in this country il
.r England or Russia or Turkey.
ic aIn of an nqlring turn oil mtnd and very much Il
re- wan; of information upon this subj ct. Like the gen
t. ll,n.an from rauqcg, Mr. CnILToS,j have ta,t,
ID for these investigations OF the principles Of things
s. hope if for other reason, yet personal favor
nd gentleman will cndeavOr In enligrn little upul
AT the subject And presuming their willingness 10 dc
IN this must ask them another Question II y"u con
o tend rule i"r he State that the proportions eh"u'
an be half and half: wish to know whether that rG
h, appes to the different sections OF the state Ii tina
ed is the case wish to know why should ike ver
III mach to know rhy.
al Perhaps have stumbled upon the Of this r.lt
rd Perap. have got ii; find that i'll the eastern porte"
II! o the State the slaves about numerous til
a' whiteS-amu hal and hall Is that the reason why Tia
~ proportion is given the mixture Of persons ard pro-
M rrtv II the reason OF the rule is that the slaves
'r rs numerous the white, in the eastern division Of til
Isl State why not connc the rule To that DIVISION: VII
la ;,u ii upon the valley where the proportion Is irrrn
~ about iulr 10 Why put same f.ic uih
IRE the Trans Allegheny section where the proportion
~" about nine one. further wish 70 know ii this ru
ms is dcduccd from what have Just alluded 10, wliciht
ven going To apply ii to the different sections
" the State whether You are gong I" take the a"r
~. gates and masses nj every section, and ppl this rule
w them. Let know II the rule VIII Work out III lii
; way.
; ~" i am still inquirng | wish 10 know whether II
'3 proportion should lie the same in different c"nti"
-; Let gentlemen stuck their principle, il there i 4;
mincip!c in the matter Mr. Jefferson SAYS, tha vile
Co. ever III doubt 10 the practical operation Of III
r measure YOU must 20 To the principle. and follow III;
M Ii there principle a!out this matter. let gcIc:
-, 20 To tina, principle. and -tcl to it, when they con
h to the county organizations. There will be cleci
county boards and what form Is given th'
NO still they are to be nal" and raise and
,t, pend the of their ~"ti"c COMMITTEES, an,
the want to know if property will De III" sam" pr
cpe ntio is not applied to their represent ion: j. i "
necessary property =: :" have the ma "y in ~.
ties "a well as in the State "ll mo- '" i%i:'ip"
work there a. we'll rs in the State AT large: /! ii is I
necessary in the State, it must h. nec2ssary il the
co,n,ic- WE are proposing ,liv.!, the counties into
townships. and there you o. tho aggregates and The /
Why apply the p:inc! them Will the
r.nr.,.n1a alton in the cu.niy lui.!aturc-o 1h
tarn-in The county lsr;!- il. rpar,ione in the SANE
wa. n in The State Legislature: desire I" see the II
principle carried ou. Iar admire principles have il
ata-tc for them. &c
am not Vet done with my inquiries. There j, an
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wisl. 10 knn" whether The rule should be- the same
for the ci,;.-. iii" gentleman from Fauquier tM.
SCoTT Whose substitute Are now ron>nl,rIn.. Ger
tanlv docs nI So, for he introduced PROPOSE
ton INTO his substitute Ia the effect that ti" cities 10
matter hos mach taxation they pay, nor how much pep
ulaton they have should only have many repre-. i
scnatve-. The gentleman il,, told us that NJ pr"
per time c will withdraw that aE,! il may ~, hc fan
and proper ascribe that sentiment I" him n"S. Eat
,ol rot rid Of although he withdraws H. In LOOK
II 4 .
IN "'"r tn" app"rtionnent FOR IN" House "' i"ic''"
accompanying proposition a. happened 10 glance at
this city Of Richmond and there seemed TO be some
thiu;: queer ahout it, ! went to cyph.ring, and was
startled theresult found something there that hat,
not before i'll The whole al my life, and wt!
do expect again ii live to he as old 10 Me-
th,Isalah 1t was that mon>trol:, thing fraction
greater than whole NUMBER laughter, this city fe.
n. assigned four delegates, with fraction ofn" hun
bred and three hundrcdths thrown away. have no
doubt that the Committee. who prepared that apIcr.
ton,nent hsIly frightened when they Lighted
upon i; that they left blank in the column Of frac-
ti"nal exccs>"s "r else that the printer i"rane
frightened and ar" mo- put in do moi know wh"E.
hope that gentlemen will not impnsn my courage.
that II" any one Else, for being frightened At this
or fr have no 'lnnlN ;ha, both The lmmor,al"
AMI the Inynchi. will Ic badly frightened when the
see it. Laughter.
hope have sufficiently Indicated the inqui,
ries reference to this -uhecl which Imrpley my mind
and 10 which those gentlemen who are ~ address
hereafter, upon the other sid" Of the House. will trust
rouclsaIe an answer. hope th,Y will attempt
Tighten us for am am not the only one who i
in darkness. and want. light upon this difficult sub cci
Let Us know whence this principle is derived Let liz
know if lhrr" Is any relation between persons and Ir"
pcrtv and if 50. what is. thai TIC able iorn
some opinion about what are the just pr"por ions. and
perhaps il half is found to be too much may give
property quarter or less. We cannot determine Whist
We should do until We g"t principle some r,I!
bv which To determine it.
There is another difficulty in reference to this matter
which arises from the fact of the unequal values Of pro-
pcrtv. of precisely the character and descriptions
| in different parts OF this commonwealth. Let ~. SUP
pose case. Take two farms OF hundred acr,
each the buildings the cach the fences are
the same they stocked alike, in every respect they
are alike. Now would ask the question. whether one
of these farms is not much entitled To protection
and 10 the same extent, the other Here are two
pieces Of property precisely alike and is any gentleman
prepared to say that they not entitled 10 the
protection, if that protection is I" be given 10y
wi1 h. olt