Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-03-04

the Guri sacra James half property and possession alone
can secure good government. If this is be the sort
OF basis that IS t. come from the gentleman from Fau
QUEER tel hun that he will only doubly convince INC
the oher way admit that property should he scclrel
and be represented but l. not master To Represent
should be protected by representations but should not
oe Itself representative. Yon not only proao-c to
MAKE 1t representative, but You propose tn give it
the uouD. power oil voter. ANA when ask for
sou Tor this, am told that il is good govern
ihcnt Aud We are told that that alone can give d gov
efninent to people that Processes that people can
govern 'hemselycs ain not satisfied yet, wait aioth
er reason.
Mr. SCOTT, of Fauquier. | will try to satisfy even
my 'r'end rom Accomac Wehave come in this discus
SION to prcPositon in respect of which, nj last waare
both agreed For, with all my heart. agree with the
gentleman from accolnac that in the adjustment good
government property should be protected and That it
should BE- regarded of the elements Of sociev
entitled to protection through Representations agree
with my friend from Accoiac in thnt an, where W.
disagree is in tho mode and measure Of this protection
and Representations lii The principle We agree---
Mr. WISE No. sir; no.
Mr.. SCOTT. agree with vnu according To The cx.
press terms III which You announced ynur pro,osou--
Mr. ISL No. sir; No. sir.
Mr.. SCOTT. That property was entitled to protec
ton aii protection to he secured h. representation Vow
The substitute proposes to distribute representation
III tins Commonwealth as to secure that protection 10
property which The gentleman from Accon,c admits
10 Ike entitled IT, SO far it respects TINT question
trust my friend is aEawered He desires to know how
long the patience o! the gaod people Of this Common
wealth Is to be abused iy these efforts continue the
cantrol OF The government i'll the hands Of minority
will answer him that question when he answers me
another How long ~ te patience Of the good people
at Tins Commonwealth; To be abused b. hi. ctcrnal !e
nand Oh the part oi western Virginia tia. W should
commit the dcslnrs Of t..is Commonwealth to a !.!
Jorily Of mere nrnhcrs Whca he answers satis ho<
liz .l..t.4 \ -l.Ill ".
lsactory Ia his. II patience s:iisaitalf oat pira
Is abused, submit 10 this committee ii the assault and
abuse dos mol FROM those who pai I'M: less dian
oncthic,loi the taxes ri this Commonwealth are ri orlny
clannrias for the possession OF thu purse-sirn,s me
gentleman misapp!irs his c,asscs Catne was a con.ir
ator, plotting against the safety oi the state His psrpos.
was To overthrow the CONSOLIDATE authorities 10 sshvcr:
The existing order oi things aud seize tine public treas
IRE. lie had e auiacity Ia prosecute his schemes in
the face nj day, the very sanctuary of the Sep
ate and II was To rcbukc that audacity that Cicero used
the striking expressions 10 which ailnsion has been made
With more proprety may reort the question: and
III tins presence demand 10 knew hnw long j. the pa
thence al the State tn b abused b. this eternal claior
tnr the purse stringsa clanGr behalf Of those w,
paving less than third OF the public taxes participate
but in that proportion in any burtlcs that the law may
impose.
Togo back TO the proposition oftie gentleman from ic
ccnar, agree with him that property i cn!cd:o pro
ea;on, and that the only adequate protection Is III rep
rcsentaon and IT, III the adjustment Of representation
amongst the counties cities, and towns of this Cnmol-
wealth, VIC adopt ratio of mere nunherswhitc mum
bcr-w. sLall organize The government upon principle
that instead Of aor,linS protection to property, will
lay il open to b. punlcrcd ut the discretion OF llve
majority hot paying onc!hir' ol the public burdens Of
the Commonwealth contributing IL The proportion Of
one third U the c"mGlon burdens that We har" 30 bear.
10 not The proi.rety al this debate which against
my Will has been ths morning tins f.rce, u,,aa ne
Il seems that it would nave been consist en-;
with the proper dispatch Of the business that has
aembrd u here if gentlemen would address themselves
in candid spirit 10 the consideration OF the ou',-ii
t because they cn bn perceive in The terms in which
that Substitute is proposed air, clear and per
s;cuous annnnciation Of that principle of representa-
ton upon whcn eastern Virginia In, .ftolhe.
throughout ali time stood eainEitcd-the prl; 2ipi al
representation, tn Which, iii e anc,rl congtita;i"n
to extent. and III The ,;an.on OF this
ton 10 greater extent, the people Of the Con,n-!i
wealth have given their assent.
Dir " Isl. | desire ht Ia correct the gentleman
from Fauricr lie seems t. understand HE ~ il hid
said the v.ry al what did saya4 saying that
property ahotld he representative i'Tincip!" lie ~;
scnt., and Ito .;rec with him t" that extent. Prop
rrv -iouli h. represented, parsons -ioa! hc repre-.
rnlcd aud everything il the Commonwealth Should u.
represented. There agree
Mr. SCOTT. Of Fauq,ner Adequately represented.
Mr.. WISE YES adequately. imrartially, ratcrnal-
~,
and say couseryaiyeiy and radically represented.
Laughter. Eat does that conce1a the principle that
property ,I.ou'd become representative. either by it,
sell or bs il; agents Property il bit part Of tle
cois;i;rc:.f. aud hoIsr COW c earth AID ts
products. Sat does that cay tlia: l,orse COW
teri Not nj all. What | said was this and Vler en
nv friend from Faaquier and myself differ i III t
lie SAYS tl.. fr aud equal ap;nrtonncnt @! repre-
sentatio e voters Of the State will not AM cannot
represent property say That fair aud ci.l repre-
seulation, based free aud equal 4uErasc is the
highest protection to property. II" says that major
its Of the vcers will plumber property, that he people
cannot b. trusted with poc; power and III effect,
tir they will plnnier themselves shy i.t the PEG
pie ere not p!unlrrers. ihr "Dy plur%s-ers that
| have k,awn earth rioarc.s and arist"crats.
The exclusive iewlhosc who attempt. through prop
,rty seize on the political power, The Plnnerers
10 be- feared II is not matter of measure Of repre-
.e:!io at ALL and tie gentleman docs stand there
with ne 10 not (" inch with him on the prin"i-
pie II. says that IL majority of The people are not to
+, trusted willfpower aud that must have money
side by eidc with them il the halI- Of Legislation to
checl, The majority Of the people. and keep them from
becoming pludcrers upon another deny that prop
osiion entirely Property shall b. prolccicd-prop-
ery shall be epresentcd--evorything sail he pro,
tecte and represented and shall be protected and re-
prescribed b. majority of the representatives 81 4
iaior,y Of the people When you deny to the majority
Of the people the ght to protect Themselves each nI
all alike. you deny all republican princp pie and my
only object was bring the issue mp for debate. DO
net intend debate it now and i: will be many day,
perhaps before do debate it. desire to hear great
many ss;ies raised this ssue. am no more pre-.
narc now than is The gentleman from taaqer, bit
Shall cnllec: myself and know The gentleman from
Fauquer will collect himself, to set forth the reasons
pro and coa-nioney against men-npon tie pfopos'on
whether the moned power is necessary to protect the
people Of the Commonwealth to secure property ana
to secure persons whether the people are capable Of
scfgoverirment unchecked By the property P"T;er.
TIL, issue is now, hope fairly made up and whether
the east or the ives; leads OIL matter CT very ;'ie
difference We about to start i'll the argument, We
are about to draw the swords to which the gentleman
from Richmond referred when tits Convention iirst
opened il session. and this issue tell gentlemen
am Interchangeable On this issue am prepared 70 stAi,
and my only prayer notwithstanding, the gentleman
from Fauuuiief says that meas mind. are not TO be
changed here. that God will give the battle not to
the strong but to the side that has the right 1t IS TIL,
right Of the people against the right OF money-inaD
mon against iiberty-and may God in bis mercy, help
the people in this tight
Mr.. CARLlLE confess was ncta little surprised
when the gentleman from Fauqnier sr ScorT offered
the amendment now before the committee and declined
to suggest single why it should be adopted
and was prepared TO submit it to vote, unless obec
ton should be made to it. desirous for one that
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