Richmond daily times. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1853, 1851-04-19
STATE CONVENTION.

proceedings ol the convention touching that matter
and we therefore give the following sketch of them.
The body having been called to ORDER
Mr. Hopkins offered resolution that the ayes and
noes may be ordered in committee OF the whole on the
basis of representation in the same manner as in the
Convention.
Motions to amend and to indefinitely postpone the
resolution were rejeced-after which,
MIR. Lechsr moved to amend by nser,ing-"and any
o'her quesuons that may arise in committee Of the
whole. The motion was carried; ayes 76, noes 40.
ne resolution as amended was then adopted; ayes
6S, noes SO.
Mr.. Hays announced that hereafter he would vote
against going into committee of the Whole for any
purpose whatever TOR he thought this resolution would
defeat its whole purpose.
MIR. Bolts said the resolution did not deprive the
committee of the whole of its advantages, greater at
tude Off debate amongst others.
Mr.. Wise expressed his desire 10 speak on the basis
question, but fhe should be taken on the motion
to strike out proposition B. go as to insert the substi-
tute, and that motion be carried, he would have moth
ing TO support He moved to rescind the order for co-
sing the debate at o'clock.
On motion fMr. Fuqua the ayes and noes were or.
de1ed on this motion.
MIR. M Garnett said many gentlemen would be
greatly Inconvenience if the vote should be postpon-
ed
Mr.. Smith said il was the understanding that ifeve-
ny member who wished TO speak should not have had
the opportunity, the resolution to stop debate would be
postponed. II this was the way gentlemen meant to
respect their pledges the body ought to lose the conf
dence OF the community.
MIR. Claiborne said that the distinguished gentleman
from Accomac had had twenty opportunities to speak
and did not choose to use them. His people deman-
ded loudly that this discussion should be brought to
close. He said this game was one in which the East
might lose and could not gain. The East proposed
to establish pricple which Western gentlemen them
selves argued would ult maely transfer the majority
to the West. The proracton OF the debate could only
tend to the benefit ofthe West by distractinp and dis
organizing the East.
Mr.. w Use asked Mr.. c. how he had forfeited his
right to address the Committee?
Mr. Claiborne said the Convention were here for three
days without an orator. and ifthe gentleman was not
here it was his own fault, not Mr.. C's crime.
Mr. Wise. The Convention could not have suffered
for an orator whilst the gentleman from Franklin was
here.
MIR. Claiborne, though he acknowledged Mr.. Wse's
pretensons made claim TO being an orator himself
ME- Wise continued to urge the propriey Of granting
every gentleman who wished it the privilege of speak
ing He referred especially to Mr. C.s colleague mr.
Stuart) who had not once obtruded himself into the
discussion. He said when he left Richmond, a short
time since, he thought Mr.. Claiborne was on the any
ious bench, one of the mourning Sinners
Mr.. Claiborne, by way Of explanaou, said he belon-
ged to church which did not believe in falling from
grace 1t was the mixed basis church, and he had never
once thought ofleaving it.
Mr.. Wise retorted that man could not fall from
grace who never had any,
Mr.. Chiffon avowed his own anxious desire that the
debate should stop, but he was in favor OF ndulpug
Western gentlemen, as many as wished to speak. He
thought this would be in accordance with the under
standing with which the resolution was adopted,
Mr. Fnney offered as substitute tor Mr. Wise's mo.
to rescnd, resolution that the order to close the
debate be postponed to Wednesday next
Mr.. F. said his colleague had views to present DIFF
fering from his own, and an Eastern man he wished
to hear him.
| Mr.. Conway said his people all thought too much
time had been spent in this discussions but ne regarded
himself bound in honor to vote for the motion 10 re-.
scnd the order.
Mr. Voolfolk moved the previous question.
Mr.. Garlic wished to fix distant day but not to pro-
hibit the committee from taking the vote on an earlier
day, and gave notice of an amendment TO that et
feet.
MI. Cox (who moved the original resolution 10 re.
scind) repeated the statement he made at the time thai
if any gentleman in the minority should wish to be
head, he would vote to rescind the resolution He felt
bound by the pledge He hoped however that hereafter
no Eastern gentleman would speak,
Mr.. Janney concurred in the view that there was
pledge not to insist upon taking the VOTE He should
abide by it, and thought no time would be lost by
Mr. Claiborne said he had never heard f the UNDER
standing referred to, but those who passed the resou-
ton did make such pledges he would be the last man
to oppose their fufment. He therefore Withdrew his
opposition.
Mr.. M. Garnett remarked that the Supplement did
not show any such understanding as had been stated
Mr.. Voolfolk withdrew The demand for the previous
question.
Mr.. STROLLER proposed fixing more distant day than
Wednesday, line or ten members desired to speak,
Mr.. Car lille now offered his amendment, fixing the
Both but allowing vote to be taken before that day
if the debate should terminate. He said however, he
was opposed to any limitation upon the debate.
Mr.. Chiffon said he should vote against fixing any
day at all. Its object to give notice to members,
so that they could be in place. He did recognise
the right of members to absent themselves except on
tier own personal responsibility.
Mr.. Lyons hoped the amendment would be voted
down. He was willing to for the iarthes day that
any friend of the white basis would say was distant
enough. He suggested the25th.
Mr. Finney accepted the modification, but objection
was made and Mr.. Lyons moved to amend by substi-
tuting Friday the 25h
Mr.. Wallace should vote against fixing any day
He declared that whenever the debate should ermin-
ate, he should vote for taking the voe in committee,
whether Eastern gentlemen were in their seats or not
Mr.. Carie's amendment was rejected.
Mr.. Stanard wanted to fix such day that gentle.
men would not go away before it.
Mr.. Lyons again urged the expedency OF fixing the
25th When that day came he should vote against re-
scnding it no matter how many Eastern gentlemen
might be absent.
Mr.. Ferguson was opposed to fixing any other day,
and whenever they arrived at period when no men,
Der would take the floor, he would be for taking the