The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-04-05

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| A. l do not remember.
(Signcd) s. A. SUYDAx.
George W. Bull, called as q witness in behalf .
| Messrs. Robinson, johnson, and Stone-sworn.
by Channan.-Q. What conversation, if any
have you had with any Of the Select Committee il
relation to the bill to prevent gambling!
A. None, except to ask Mr.. Robinson to let me-
know the day it was introduced
q. Did he let you know the day it was intro
ducsd?
A. No.
z. Where was Senator Robinson on the 9th
February; and had you seen him Mt all, between
The tme OF going to New York, on the 2lst Febru-
AIRY and 18th February
A. On my return from New York on the morning
OF the 18th February, if my memory serves me,
Senator Robinson was out of the city-at any rate
did not see him, to have conve rsation with him
between the periods stated, on that bill or any
other subject Of legislation.
e. In what way did You succeed in getting him
to postpone the introduction Of the bill.
A. Simply because he was not here to do So
q. What Senators, II any, did you retain, osten-
sibly to defend suit, who were to speak against
the bill and assist you in any way to kill i'll
A. Not one.
q. What arrangements, if any, in relation to the
BILL have you made with Mr.. Mills, the Deputy
A. None, other than to request him to keep me
advised Of its introduction, that might keep the
watch Of it.
@. Was there, at any time, any understanding
between you and any of the members Of the Senate,
or Mr.. Mills, or any of the other officers Of the
Senate, in relation to any compensation either you
or they to receive to procure the defeat of such
bill1
A. Before heaven there was not.
G. Did any Of the Senators, or officers OF the
Senate, have any knowledge or understanding, as
far you know, in relation to any interest of yours
in the defeat of such bill?
A. They had not, directly or indirectly.
Z. Relate the circumstances under which the
Select Committee signed the note to you, in the
city Of New York marked c., and the circumstances
A. While the Legislature was in New York on
Monday last, inquired Of the different members Of
the committee respectively ardapsrt, if was right
in the opinion that bill for the cfectua sup
preston Of gambling would not be reported back TO
the Senate, and if SO, if they would sign paper to
that effect They, each efthem, said that /
right; then drew up the paper addressed to them.
(marked C.) When | inquired Of Mr.. Robinson he
was was eating his breakfast Mr.. Stone was in the
ante Of the ladies' parlor at the south end Of
the Astor House-Mr. Johnson, met in the vest-
bule; MIR. Stone went with me into No. 4; l then
drew up this letter and the answer; Mr.. Stone
signed it; Mr.. johnson also came in and signed it;
Mr.. Robinson came out from breakfast; met him
in the hall; took him into the room and showed
him the letter, and he signed il chairman; stated
to them rs my reason for wishing this paper that
desired to show II to friend Of mine who was in
terested in that bill; they asked mo- other rea-
sons for wishing it, nor did give them any
q. Did you have any knowledge or information Of
bill before he gave notice thereof in the Senate
A. simply had information of it from seeing it
lying on his desk, with the title.
By Mr.. Mamn.-Q. Are the letters marked B
A. They were written by me.
q. Did you know that Mr.. Suydam wasa Free
A. At my first interview with him, asked him
to be such.
@. Did you procure bill similar to tho ono Mr..
Robinson introduced. for the purpose Of having it
intr oduced in the Senate!
A. did not.
q. DO you know who drew that billl
A. do not.
q. Did you know whether any person furnished
it to him for the purpose Of being introduced
A. do not know who gave 1t to him.
q. Did Mr. Mills, the Deputy Clerk, show you
bill like that, before it was introduced by MIR. Ro-
bnson?
A. lie showed me ono similar to it, but whether
prior or since its introduction, l am not positive
some time during the session.
@. Was tho bill in his handwriting that he
showed you?
A. No.
q. DO you know whether he furnished it to Mr..
Robinson to be introduced?
A. do not.
q. you ever request any person to have a So.
lect committee appointed on such bill in the SEN
stef
A. have no distinct recollection Of having sug-
gested the appointment OF such committee.
q. DO you know how why il was referred to q
select committee, instead of standing committee u
the Senate?
A. No.
q; DO you know who moved the appointment of
A. ! do not--I was not in the Senate when the
bill was introduced.
q. How did you first learn that il was referred to
n select committee. and the names Of the commit
A. From Mr.. Mills, who had the bill handed to
him, ] suppose, as is usual with such bills.
q. From whom did you get the original that was
introduced
A. did not see the original bill at any time in
New York.
q. Did you have the original bill at any timel
"A. had 1t one evening long enough to make a
copy, from which got IL printed.
q. From whom did YOU procure lit
A. From MIR. Robinson, the chairman; ] told him
merely wished to take it over to my room TO look
II over.
@: Did you state anything else to him about it at
A. lie was 10th TO let mo have Il. ! told him |
would return II to him ut once, without making any
mark or NEEDLE with Il In any way, except to copy
section.
A. ] made copy, aud got it printed from the
q. How soon did you return the original to him
A. The next morning, Ibcl,eve.
". bu gOu Ever sIshk 10 MIN OF any otntr mem
Der Of the committee, except when you were in New
loik, in reference to the blill
a. did not except rs stated above.
U. Did you ever speak 10 Mr.. Robinson, when
the commiuee would meet in reference TO that bill.
"A. believe did ask him once lie passng'
he Iaid no particular attention TO my question. lie
said: zone Of these days"
q. Did you ever speak TO Mr.. johnson or Mr.
Stone, except in New York. when the Legislature
was there, in relation TO the bill 7
A. To the best of my present recollection never
have.
q. Did you ever have any conversation with either
Of the committee, on your way u New York, whom
the Legislature went down. in relation to this bill
A. did not.
q. Lid you ever speak to Mr. johnson in relation
TO defending n suit tor youl
A. MIR. Johnson did defend n suit for me, in the
Justices Court Of this city this winter. some time,
think In February or March. MIR Johnson refused
70 receive any remuneration for this service.
q. Did you ever speak to any two members Of the
Legislature, who are lawyers in relation to defend
ing suit for you
L. A. III.