The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-02-15

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should he introduced
Mr. WALKER, am not eonlendlDg IN regard 10 In,
am coDteuding that the senator has right 10 proeI
he doing, to show mat we should step aside os
the rule.
Mr.. FOOTE. / have a great disposition 10 p.,d..
courtesy but call the senator 10 order do hGI M,
T r. oI PRESIDENT The Chair will read .po,h.,
ton OF parliamentary law;
When = member desires to bring in bill on an, !,
iec he states 10 the house ia general he
doing IT, aud concludes BY moving for leave bring in
bill Guided g.. Lave being given on the quesioa
committee 1, appointed 10 prepare and bring IN bs Nm
The mover aud seconder are always appointed on nm
committees, and one or mere In addition"
Leave must evidently be granted before member "a,
enter into general argument.
Mr. BENTON apprehend what the Chair has "a,
are principles of parliamentary law under control Of H.
house that they are not rules OF this body 10 be a.
forced by the Chair. That is VIVA, understand Tn,
are not rules OF this body, but principles OF parlamsn
law to be decided by majority OF The body Am rwG
" The PRESIDENT. The senator is not precisely r.,
The Chair is bound TO enforce the parliamentary T.
as well as the rules The rules are positive aad 4.
parliamentary law is his guide and whenever his alien
iion is called to the enforcement OF itallhoush i
may have usually suffered departure when his st,,'
ton has not been calledhe is bound to enforce thu M
liamentary law well as ii there a strict rule
Mr.. DAVIS, oil Mississippi Is II in The power Of A.
Mr., BENTON differ from the Chair in io,o
The PRESIDENT. The Chair has read to the Ser.
what is the parliamentary law upon the subject n,
said, the same time, that il the Senate choee 10 n
aside the parliamentary law, they certainly had the povs
10 do So
Mr. DAVIS, of Misrrsipp Then ask the consent, 4
the Senate upon the question OF leave.
The PRESIDENT. u the Senate wishes il. the Chan
will read again that portion Of parliamentary law reL
ton to the Introduction of bill. 1t rests with The Ssa
10 say what they will do with that law
Mr.: DAVIS. Of Mississippi. ! cannot object to d.
Senate 10 give leave. and inquire OF the Chair The S
ale cannot give leave for the senator to proceed with
remarks. a te
The PRESIDENT. Certainly am Of that ooiuia
The Chair decided simply upon the right OF The sea,u
to 20 into discussion that he had not rghtios
leave, although parliamentary law has been against md
practice, and il has never prevailed, in the opinion
the Chair in this any other bsdy. The quests
will, then, be on granting leave.
Mr. DAVIS. The leave | asked was leave for 4
senator proceed with the remarks that he was makx
Mr. FOOrE Is not that a proposition virtually toK
peal one q the rules Ct this body Can that gropos
words, can simple majority At the present time ex
poraneously allow member to violate it,
The PRESIDENT. II is not one OF the rules h u
very unpleasant for the Chair be under the neces
of restaiing what s not understood There is sxss
rule the subject. 1t was not supposed to be aa~
sasy to have rule. because parliamentary law u :
PLAIN, and no long esta blished. 10 render rule
cessary But II has been departed from in some instance
and gentlemen have made speeches before subject N
been introduced The Inconvenience of il is apparals
all, because an argument IN such state OF buHnu
cannot De replied to until leave IS granted TO inlioa
the subject 1t is not in the power CT senator, len
fore, in offering bill, TO enter into discussion d
merits for any purpose whatever; but he must iupy
state the substances OF 1t, he would that OF pcdt
in order that the Senate may determine whether they vi
give leave not. ID the Chair now understood N
Chair very much doubts whether will be in the pou
OF the Senate to authorize senator TO make an agl
ment upon asubject not before it, which will prs'sa
from oOfo If thurn NH
W Mr. DAVIS of mississippi. II is due 10 myself 4
to the Chair that | should say that understood Ast
cison OF the Chair and did not object 10 H. My NJ
purpose give leave to senator do thai wh
according parliamentary law. he could o.hsrsn
do. am free 10 say that object 10 the practice. al
think the parliamentary law s sound We have speeds
upon bills lie ~ upon an, Their z, presentation
! Mr.. DAVIS. Very irregularly, grant. only oslt
upon this occasion give leave that The senator
may be concluded.
parliamentary rule. but in any instance may aPpa
the body The principle OF the law rests The boy
the Senate 10 decide and they decide what they paAn
regard to it. That is the way understand it; and
precisely in conformity with that principle that lhogt
it emnenty necessary that the principle Of ibs r
should be dispensed with on this occasion. II ni0
IN which bill has been rejected, and application ~
to bring in The sarne bill stalled In the notice q"
ing with givng the why the principle Of p,ds
mentsry law should be dispensed with in this case ~
that question, hold, belongs to the Senate.
| The PRESIDENT The CHAIR stated in The dis =
stance. that was IN The power OF the Senate TO de
the question. But the senator certainly wrong -
posing that it 10 not the duty of the Chair TO decide r
gard 10 question OF parliamentary law. He must y
its Invasion unless the Senate otherwise drech
| MIR. DAVIS. of Nssissippi. ask that The FoVo
ton may be submitted 10 the sense OF the SENATE
!, MIR. FOOTE would suggest this point: nDs
stand that the parliamentary Law, read TO US by he ~
thus morning. constitutes part OF the rules OF ihn
/ a ri n my alt finn be
10 that rule which insisting upon tins n'ofaS
without the regular adoption Of new rule oil o'aH
the body, or by the unanimous consent OF the bo0y
can hardly be done by simple majority in this eIuse
rsneous manner. Still. say, il The Senate choss
accord to other senators the privilege which ths s
TO the senator from Missouri 1. Tor one. viii han
the speeches that may be made with patience .
| The PRESIDENT. The senator makes no auesSo
Mr.. UPHAM Is there any question pending =.
| The PRESIDENT. The Question pending "a upon :
mohon OF The senator from Miasiss,pTR Mt DAVID
permit The senator from Missouri 10 proceed ~ s.
the reasons why the parliamentary law forbddiN Nr
troduction OF bill similar 10 the rejected THIS
| understands il. IfFs nFf5 f-
Mr.. UpHAM II would give me pleasure on y
other occasion 10 hear the senator from Museum =
to-day u privae-b day-and Of the three days ~
we should have considered Them. have devo'os :!
two hours OF one III the days their conshsnut
Last week they were NOT taken up nj all No.
call. II j, is in order. for the Senate 10 proees
tho consideration Of the private calendar. IN ofoa
one day at least may BE- devoted 10 that business
The PRESIDENT. The Chsir does not fesl al NJ
TO call up that order when this question is pending III
Mr. DAVIS. of Mississippi We depart even -
from the rule OF the order Of basnsss, asd We eoes
max special orders to interfere with the caeDdaI
Mr. DAWSON. Mr.. President. | do not unds'ss
the motion made by The senator from MissiSfF x
precisely the one which was originally presentsd I
Chair. The motion now il, that The senator iron ~
sour be permitted TO proceed 10 give the general res
why tbs parliamentary law shoald now be suspende
repealed an order 10 giant leave for the senator ~
duce his bill That is = matter of right; and s''