The New York herald., 1851-11-20

10 man who SPEAK TO him We speak TO Its,y q
with these opinions can desire nothing more th:n
FRANKLY 70 give my hand to combined honor ASTON
for the OF Hungary and the iniependen:e
have declared publicly that believe my people
conviction that the future orgsnz son ot county
Povuso orc beyond tne Tesen OF man ao %.
ntervene-must rest on a republican basis Tha:is my
with, because all cur mopa-chical ncrstous have, by
the repeated faehoods Of the house Of HsPsbars esen
completely destroyed (Hesr, hea- IknoE that II Is
not 50 much the form of government that makes the
happiness Of the people @ II is the and morality
of the governors (iesr, hear) Therefore no govern
ment can be good wherein people have not fan CONN.,
dence in the governors and security for tbs future
lnear, hear That Is the case Win .aunssry. As to
Italy, although am not unacqnainted with the aim
Of the Italian nation resumed 10 tbs person oi
Mazzni, still, stsnd here 20 claim thu sovereign
and rs will not permit any foreign nation to inter
fere in the affairs Of Hungary, neither will inter
fere with the Internal Affairs Of Italy Where pecpeco'
tain power by obtaining independence ., them
their affairs; and then they &c net when masters
ther fate DO what best for the hsppnes Of nation
then say that such nation does not deserve to happy
(Heaf) Therefore mix not witt the internal affairs OF
Italy. We have common aim sud common enc n.y.
ar work in Brotherhood to throw OF the enemy
Of oar mutual independence and 20 dispose ea:h, OF
our home affairs, in independent position. Acting
that basis, declare that l will DO everything
possible to accomplish such unity in action with the
Italian natien, and believe that in saying &c. am
speaking the sentiments Of my whole nation 70. the
hurting ths sovereign tight cf Hungary @ to to dis. dis
pose OF Itself en1 !, on my part, give the sssu-
that will have nothing 20 do with the interest
home questions Of tie Itsans This much say for the
harmony OF the two nations that 1t is happy
stance that there in neither county party
tain partc ular doctrines which are considered by
inconsistent ~. the security Of property We have
nothing to &c with these doctrines because they
necessary .o- Take Hungary whichis chiefly agrI
gary have already by the pact struggle acquired property
the so Those who have acquired property have OF
wish bat 20 get freedom for thSir labor de-
v.lopement fo- their resources ana cheap govern
ment security for person and property, and politi
welfare. (Hea-) Another portion Of the Hurga-
rsn people have not yet acquired landed property
BIZ he State itsel: has immense extent Of public
lands vhch Will give also basis FOX financial opera
;ons with q course more security Tor any loans should
Hungary them than the prospects of the House Of
HspsoUrg { Hear and lsughter) In word we have
public lands 20 very large extent aud my belief s that
they should be distributed among the people because 60
verDments all ovec the world make the wors. agricul,u
fore think that the best plan is when the government
has Large quantity Of land TO divide 1t in small por
these people Industrious and prosperous will pay into
The treasury will produce much than the profit of
the lands il held by the government ear, hear who
First Lord Of the Treasury in Hungary speak from
experience, and had not war come on, i would have
distributed the lands 10 the people aud convinced
that the public revenue would have been raised to
higher amount than had they remained in
hands because governments have always been bad
traders Hear hear Now, by these conditions,
which could be united with financial operations giving
thirty forty acres to each man united with such
banking system would enable him to pay off the
price Cl lurty IOrLy years small sums
there would also be large basis Tor financial Operations
not TO keep large armies but to build railways and
oIen up free communications throughout the realm.
Hear and cheers There is small portion Of Hungary
in which the people more manufacturing than agr-
cultural We have not any great factories, but rather
small system Of private industries Something like the
way in which sm informed Birmip CHAM differs from
Manchester In the latter there great factories
employing each their thousands Of men, while in Br-
ininsham all snail masters Now such men want
theorists theories about the distribution of labor
and capital They work each in independent position
and only want political freedom 10 enable them TO
60 Such being the state Of Hungary the larger por
ton Of the people being propreors Of the so- bepg
consequence Of the past revolution that the whole sgr
cultural classes have become free propretors Of the soil
and there being large State lands which, united with
good banking system, by which payment would be
facilitated would have distributed among the people,
and manufacturing industry not being found in large
factories where the question Of the relations Of labor
AID capital have 10 be discussed but being a small
for those doctrines which are termed socialism or
communism, neither Of which, confess. do very well
works and have consulted the professors and from
two can get similar definition; and therefore do
not understand the words Cheers There is none OF
that cesrness about these nes that there is about
the doctrine Of political freedom loud cheers ThA.
lie the doctrine which gives every the faculty Of
doing what is right for himself without any arbitrary
power to hurt his neighbor, which is not freedom
Hear, hear hear But Whatever distinctions there
may be in these socialist DOCTRINES there is no occa
siC for them in Hungary, and Ss am informed the
ssme Is the case in Italy and therefore there Is full
scoIe for that harmony n dessn and aim which con-
hear Now, 70 end my long confidential and familiar
renarks-for L was not prepared TO make speech--I
rying out our common aim whsher should have two
associations working In parallel lines Hungary
and one for Isly--or that both should melt into
Seeing that your sentiments and mine Identical you
will excuse me " I make remark 1t Ia ths--Feeing
myself to represent the true interests Of Hungary aud
that Mszzni represents the sentiments aad views Of
Italy, think I had better consult him about
this question of fusion Of the two sections, and
after that con,ultation will fairly my wishes
nA k.Ar 49,
I beg you TO give me leave to send q written an
sver TO your address In which written answer will be
80 bold frankly to state what wish and what hope
whether your society should take up the Of the
friends Of Hungary and of Italy merge into the gene
raj name Of the friends of freedom all the continent
or whether on the other hand retaining your present
constitution, should ask you to give brothers hand
to association which may yet be fouI ded (Iear
hesr) And now let me, out of the very heart of my
heart thank you for your Kind attention. and It is
happy moment of my life 10 see many generous men
holding sentimen,s which cannot but feel must be
beneficial 70 the oppressed nations which look up Eng
land ss to happy elder brother who only happy
himseh but happy in bis resolution to give helping
hand 10 mis- brethren who oppressed (Cheers)
The deputation took their leave.
After this speech, NJ. Kossuth had an interview
with Mazzni The following letter from Mazziai
was read by the chairman Of the meeting
LETTER FROM MAZlINI
SrR-iour kind invitation reached very late on
Saturday and regret that both previous engagements
and ether merely personal motives will prevent from
svailirg myself Its but in heart soul and wishes am
With you with all those who advocate the principles
contained in your address 10 kossuh that the bro
therhood of the people rest the hopes Of civilization and
the hee developemert Of mans noblest faculties - A
truly holy alliance o the nations the basis OF freedom
aud equality for the moral, intellectual aud physical
progress o mankind hs. been the foremost thought OF
all that have, during twenty-five years spoken writ
ten done and endesvored let that foremost thouxht
live ard act through all your manifestation. Gsd and
the people truth and right will help you on your way
On which the blessing and friendship Of all nov bleeding
sna srugghrg rations viii welcome the English nation
Believe ne. sir, With cordial thanks ever f.ithfull-
yours JOSEPH MkZLINI
INTENDED DEPARTrRE or KossUrH
be following communication has been receivsd
by The American Consul at Southampton
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hIfosttf Ia l.. kOsSU ri
The Mayors Of Manchester and two or three other
places, have refused 20 call meetings for the recsp.