The New York herald., 1851-11-01

Q. Did Mr Segur cot ~ il he were the owner O
the boat A. Mr.. Segur gave sensrsI direc
tions; he acted IL he was the owner Of the bosS
Q. Did not every body on board the boat &C
ofthe boat A; Csrtainly, sir; every man rsoOs
nized his authority.
@. Did Mr.. Segur order the freight to be sem
back to Savannah! A. The portion Of the freigh
q. What did Mr.. Segur order to be done witt
the boat A. He ordered her back to Nassau; Mr.
5. told me she was to 20 to Nassau; il was the gen
eral Ding the boat went back by the order
and direction Of Mr.. Segur, but did not hear hin
give the der for her to to Nassau to any body
Q. Did Capt Lewis act under the orders Of Mr.
Segur! A He did.
Q. Who was your leader Ormilitary com mandsr
A. Col Titus.
q. Was he the recognized leader of the boat
A. He was therecog gnized commander ofthe men, not
of the boat; Capt. Lewis had command of the boat
though he could not have ordered the boat with
out the consent of Mr. Segur.
u. Where did you first see Mr.. Segur? A. We
found Mr.. Segurat Warsaw when we arrived there;
ne gave general directions; he seemed to have con-
:, Q. In wha. light did you regard your party at
that tmel A. We were moro as pleasure party
than any thing else; Mr.. Segur was acting as
owner OF the boat; he directed Colonel Titus spoke
OF Landing men, sending men on shore, Sc.
q Dld ne say he was the owner Of the boat! A.
NO; merely judged by bis acts, and the submis-
sion Of parties TO his direction
u. Was the Pampero in a condition to 20 to sea!
a.. She was not when she lett Jacksonville
~. In what respect was she unified for sea! A.
She had no fuel, no water on board, for such q
voyage:
Q. Did the vessel leave Jacksonville as if intend
ing to go upon foreign voyagel A. 1t seemed
she did not leave the port of Jacksonville to 70
upon foreign voyage.
q What course did the vessel take on leaving
Nassau! A. She went outside from Nassau TO
warsaw; she kept close to shcre, because she had
no men used to firing, and the engineer said he
would 20 on shore IT he could get no iremen.
u Wa, any ireigh paid for the things on board!
A. The freight was gratuit us entirely.
q. DO you know VINO employed the boat TO carry
the party! A. do not.
q. Were there any articles on board for trade or
traffic! A. None whatever.
Questions by Libellant-In what way did Mr.
Segur act during the transhipment of articles on
board the Jasper! A. BY general directions; Mr..
SSegur had his pencil and paper, marking down,
&C., and gave directions on board the best part of
the day; Col. Titus was on board; the name Pam
pero was ordered to be affixed to the boat by Mr..
Segur; it had been obli.erated, and Washington,
ID. u, as the place where the vessel hailed from,
left; Pampero was again added; witness afterwari |
said The name Pampero was on the furniture and
apparel of the boat.
q. Were the acts and directions of Mr.. Segur
different from those of commission merchants A.
His acts were those have stated.
q. You said that Mr.. Segur claimed to be owner;
what did he say? A. | never heard him say ne
was the owner in exact words
q Did you leave Jacksonville with the expec-
tation Of going direct to Cuba A. We did not;
we did not think the vessel would come back to
Jacksonville, out touch at other points on the
Florida coast before going to Cuba.
q In what capacity were you in the xpedtion 7
A. | was a captain in the expedition.
q What was the object in going to Savannah +!
A. 1t was to get men.
q. Was the object ultimately TO go to Cuba 7
A. The object of all on board was to 90 to Cuba,
but | was not sure ! would 20 to Cuba in the
Pampero ! had been told that there was an
other boat, the Monmouth, on which might go.
q. Is MIR. Segur commission merchant in Sa-
vanpsh! A. do not think he is; understood be
was from New Orleans.
Jacob Rutherford caled-Q. by District A.tor-
ney DO you know the steamer commonly called
the PaDpeIo! A. do.
O. Were you acting in any capacity on board
said vessel A j am an engineer, and acted in
that capacity on the Pampero.
q. When, and where did you begin to act as en-
ginoerl A. From the 18th day of August last, at
warsaw Sound, Georgia; was assistant engineer.
q. by whom was you employ cd A.. By Mr..
Johnson, tie other engineer, and Captain lie WIS.,
but they would not engage me permanently until
they saw Mr.. Segur; Mr.. Segur afterwards came
down and brought another engineer, but when Mr..
Johnson said be had employed me he sent the other
engineer back, and employe cd me.
q. Was any particular voyage specified to you,
or any definite engagement msde vita youl A No
particular voyage was specified TO me, nor was
Engaged for any specified length Of timc; was on
gaGed by the month; | accompanied the vessel TO
Jacksonville, on ber first voyage from Warsaw;
we got into Jacksonville on the afternoon ot the
last uay Of August.
q. Was there any general understanding as 20
the destination of the vessell A know of 90 un
derstsndDe | was not distinctly informed; had
no conversation with the captain about IL, but
judged the expedition was bound for Cuba, from
seeing men come ON board at Jacksonvile; | was
on board when the vessel received freight in ST.
~ - = L.
at Jacksonville, and fat load of boxes at the
Empire Mills; some Of tho boxes were marked
" II. L f, and others with .iimond and t.
CIoss.examination- How do you know the vessel
was tho Pamperol How did the name come of :
A. knew her by the name. The sign on shich
The name was was pulled of accidentally wbcn tho
j. Stone was towing the Pampere out at Warsaw
The sign was afterwards replaced.
Geo. IL Smith, of Jacksonville, examined by
District AttoILey.-Q We're you ployed ms tem-
porary inspector at Jacksonville. A, was on the
aIih Of August, in place Of DR.. Holland, who was
sick; was employed by Col. Hart, tho collector
q. Did you go on board the PampeTol A.
DID, Tor the pufpofe Of seeing the papers Of the
o. Did you see the papers A. / did not; did
not see the captain; raw a gentleman whom / n.
6rst supposed TO be the captain he said he was net
and that the captain was on shore; the one saw
ives called second captain, or sailing master.
q. Did you make known in what capacity you
came on the boatl A. / did; asked him for the
IspeTs; be did not exhibit them 70 me; nc said tho
captain was ashore; reported to the collector; he
tod me to 90 back and iemain on board until
could zee the captain; the boat prepared for mo
to go on board, and ! went on board; met with
Capt. Lewis; asked him to show his papers; he
fad he had twenty four hours to do that In; made
that report to Col. Hart; he admitted tha. ii wa,
the cafe that he bad twentyfour hours 10 show his
papers IN; be urged that should 60 and remain on
board; was not desrous to do so, as il was an un-
rlcaisnt place; The collector told me should keep
my eye on the vessel; j waited the twenty-four
hours ard reported to the collector that the papers
Lad not been exhibited to me.
O. Did the captain at any tiuso inform you where
The vessel came from, or where she was gong
A lie cid not; be appeared to be very cautious on
II at subject.
O. Was there any avowed and notorious destna-
ton mentioned Of tho vessel on the day she lelt
Jacksonyilel Collected to by counsel for defence
" lrd passengers state their destination on
goire on board said vessel Collected to)
q Did the captain give you any infor nation as
TO where the vessel came from, or where she was
going a. Tie did not give me much satisfa ,tion
n ha a. ~. r.