Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-13

been charged with, has been founded precisely upo
'iic Illustration which have just given We often Sc
III Congress- gentlemen from the south ro
] ls ioi propositions with the extreme rcc-suiicrs OF ti
horh not because they agree in opinion but for tn
very reason that they are the extreme opposites in opr
loh' ANA this is every day quoted inconsistency
wien YOU anu k!ow. parlialncntarians that 1t
perfectly consistent. 1t is to avoid these parliamentary
ra,niicls, these technical bonds upon the conscience
anu reasons oil incn, that allowed 20 go into com
i'tec oil the whole, to consult freely, untrammeed b
'i. ,hiiig aud when We have come TO dccrminat
conclusion, 10 go into the House. where we have
JJut'ii and arc supposed to have fixed opinions b.
WHICH We arc read 10 abide.
would observe to the gentleman from Powhatan
Mr iorKss,) and no gentleman knows il better thar
uoca-at every lest proposed to be made i'll commit
,ec vi The whole, can be made in the House. wolt
NC tc last Imam TO provide, in this body anr where
use vail Tor mcmters disposed to skulk from thei
responsibility but al the saline time would be the las
on tne ether extreme, provide any slarkc here pol
le iectom oi debcraion. This resolution will surel.
20 30 lhe gentleman says that mistakes have beer
mate 10y eiIcrs. have known, and repeatedly, more
SERIOUS mistakes made b. the journal. During MY time
III congress, II there mlscouutb BY the tccrs, there
was 4 recount given. iun insist upon it. Eut yor
cannot 30 20 here. When the clerk ha, reported
me Yeas and nays, AID called ever The yeas and nays
| 'nerc Is great difficulty about correcting the Journal
should there be mistake. Again the gentleman say.
taxes less time than does to pass between tccrS. VI,
experience is very different. 1t takes about one-ha
or onc-Garter of the time to take count by ellcrs thai
i taxes ny the Yea: aad hays By the yeas and nay;
you nave to call over the Of every member to
whether lie in the llosc-wait until those who have
not voted rise in their seats and vote read thu
iises and then report the vote. When tcllcrs ap
pointed the members merely rise from their seats and
pass between the tccrs, who make their report to the
Itar, ard the Chair il 10 the House If any
tbg ,air
ply orders new count. The House call for il
mere are certainly two men III this House competent
70 count the members, and do it accurately If two
lecrs arc liable TO make stake it is subject 10 your
correction certainly your clerk is liable to make
mistakes also 1t is not the pen, but the and the
eye at last that makes the result The tellcrs have the
men passing between them and count them with their
fingers upon their bodies. So that in every point oil
/ vic"' .hai vote against this resolution. But Shall
'otc against II mainly for the reason and caIIdnr com
Pcl> me to say so, that whatever be the object of the
gentleman from Powhatan, (Ar IlopKYs.)--I have no
uonDt OF ms mores-bu have question in my own
mind that IL will be seized upon in order to hold lash
over l'c freedom at conscience and this quea-
tin have 10 idea of voting for Il resolution which
WIZ seem even by implication. TO be putting in the
co.ilson OF men who are afraid of their oversacrs.
Ar: CLAIBORNE | care very little about how this
question Is decided | votci when came into the
lii!' when this proposition under consideration II
take Tie vote upon the quest ion of the basis bv ard
HAS did il, believing with the gentleman from Fau
quier, (3ir Sc"TT, that the vote could he taken more
correctly and more easily in that way than by count
~ tcllcrs In the first place object to our being
compelled 10 round through the hall like parcel
I'll sheep II does not look ,alesmanlikc Ia me- Laugh
teri And object 10 it. ! vote III the
committee Of Inc whole taken in that way any where
else except in the capitol Of the United States al
Washington and hope shall n"Tcr vote in am dc
Lucrative body that patterns after Iii" body that hold:
| it, se*slcr, there.
Bat ny reason for rising 10 speak upon this question
i to rep!, 10 remark that fell from my iric:.d il"H
ischp!hSc t,ir L.rrIiEE aud repeated since by ti'
;cl'i.na f'il Augusta (Alr S!IErr:Y AMI endorsed
| ~ nc gentleman from Accnmac Mr. Nis..) IL Is
That although the gentleman from Pu"haian. r Hoe
Si::s. roid have ncnGc, his resolution Tor tina
purpose sill ii viii lc calculated, /; adopted 10 o
lasA "fet-wIIom: Eastern representatives suppose
FOR understand that there is 10 division oi acntImeli
upon tic other side upon the question of the basis Ii
* intim.!cd that there i, division amongst eastern
members AMI presumed this lash Is 10 &c held oyc
them rd b: the call for the yeas and nays, they are
bc prevented Ia committee q! The whole from buss IN.
the Whites that their constituents have throw" alout
them. ~ an eastern man. would scorn 10 give an.
vote in hi, Convention either in committee oil the Whole
or III Convention. that | would not be willing Ia cli.c
not only upon the record, Of the ora! oi The Coiv%iI
lit nI! 10 put il also upon the face of that bcanli!,
sheet hnon the supplement o the irs!nla Ccn'ch
| ton
And slla Il gentlemen from the west and gcncllcl
from the east who differ from tc majority Of this Con
rc;iun upon hi, basis question decide t- proposition
II cPpus.ion j, TO nj the Convention 10 this r">c
luton let Il from those gentlemen whose coi
sciences be protected by the voting down q
this resolution to take the vote i'll Committee vi u
whole by reas and nays. care not whether 1t
adn?tcd "r " 50 Ear as am concerned but becYe II
vote lie recorded more accurately and that it l. Tn
view OF cycrT east and west TINT the vote should
recorded accurately. and shall therefore vote for the 70
solution, :iat satisfaction be vc. that Justice I'M
bc oie that the truth may he made Known and that cvt
~ mans may tell upon that side OF the qTcsi"
upon which lac gives il and desires il to be 9irci II III
yeas and nays called The clerk The de,k records til
vote OF every member who answered to iis name, an
then reads the OF those who voted. Upon
oues,iun Of 80 mich Importance as this of the basis
representation every man, take word for tito mat
t.r whether he be mixed basis white basis CON
urousc or uv thing c=c-nil listen 10 the reading ove
The names and ii h- be not correctly recorded he vii
have The privilege Of making the correction But II H. IN
cxcmct OF taking vote-lid there mus be an eSclte
men, upon 10 moncituci!s Question rs ths-t!
,irs make 4 mist axe. that mistake will be out OF III
nnwr Of the houv to correct because it cannot l.. Il,
rt.r.,! and known. Ii is Tor this that slia
vote cr this rc>ulu.i1i
Al 70 obyia;e tic charge that is made against Til
ro:oyltinn, that it will bc published in the supplement
l not put on the journal, will move to amend q
70 clarc that the vote shall not be reported bv the
nor.rs for the supplement. am willing that the c'er
The moment this question is settled shall tear up the II:
hr In; made uf the vote on Inc yeas anu laNs,
orr that no man shall hereafter he charged with incol
sistcnc..
i MIR. JACOB. ] desire tosay n word Or two IN re
card 10 the pending question. 1t occurs to my min
that this is among several most extraordinary eli
rumstances and movements. which have TRANSFERRED /
iii body The other day this House called upon tn
scd Auditor to assign The reasons ur certain rrpo!
ofIis. That officer WHOM have slightly known person
,y for many wears but have known well by reputatto
i unc time, aud who stands as high in point Of homo
and fidelity to Iii, office any man in the Siafe-sh;
ofcrr was required 10y gentleman "t TIN, Louise I
,c the reasons for his report. lie sent Ill his reason
co,chcd in us modest, noilcnsvc language as was pos
siIle 10 put them ill., and yet member rose IN his ptc
IN this floor and because he lid not like the reasons
the report told the counryiur vi" doubtless go mi
tI,t srpplcmcnt-:hat this II piece OF cool oiici;
;,nnI,!cncc That the Identical language USED
re- ard to this high and honorable officer, because III
fas contained in that report are not agreeable 10 Gel
lain gentlemen and to certain parties in tins Hois'
PIT that Is not all The mort invest because 1T course
b ,cr is no. agreeable to certain party here l. &c
nnced il this House and Of it, being unrie!
r. ri,. unit, and ndivisibty Of this State That
another of the pecliaritics that characterize the con
Diet Of certain parties here. /,
| Mr.. VOOLFOLK. rise to point of order | a
no; see the application of the gentleman remarks
the pending question IN tho ~
! Nr. JACOB think the gentleman WIZ see '''' "
plicatol il be will wait minute ,., a.