The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-03-13

committee thought the largest reduction the public
'sS m r1a afS rise % Douir. Of hs honorable
senator tom Maryland i ,'on gaes are not something
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Mr. HALE How Is II ~ Charestown a.-. F..r +
M PEARCE. They must have iron gates. for it is
the only safe mode OF closing ip stone dock.
Mr. DOWNS. tthoughfn was rather strange that the
APPROPRIATION should be taken oil at New Orleans Now il
is all explained for we see they needed il Somewhere
else sey wanted 10 transfer II 10 New York Laugh
teri That the manner IN which New Orleans and the
South have always been treated IN these matters do
hope the House will insist upon their bill they passed it.
The committee did not want 10 increase the amount, and
they cat II OF from New Orleans and gave il 10 New
York
MI. DICKINSON. | think my friend from New Or.
leans is rather more sectional than becomes eompro-
mise man Laughter My opinion Is that the
committee have been very liberal 10 that city But here
great work In New York, in which the expendi-
always will be so, until different system = adopted
This money is mostly due 10 pay debt 70 me nones'
laborers who have done the work hope the eomh'ee
Mr.. BRIGHT. The honorable senator from Louisiana
speaks OF sectional considerations they nave no Tla
tion to the OF New Orleans or oil New loS ~.
cases were vastly derent One is work under contract
still existing part OF the appropriation mas oeeh MADE
to carry on the work, and 10 pay Tor The labor already
SIno ono less than the estimate We exercised the same
economy in this item that we did IN regard TO New Or
leans, we took away $4,000 from New Orleans, and
cnt this down Sl 06, 900.
MIR. DOWNS. think there was an increase.
Mr.. PEARCE. Ii you add the increased allowance OF
the committee to the estimate OF the department, in rela
ton to those items for which the department did not es
male, you will find that we took away more than that
from the estimate for all that is required in New York
Mr.. DOWNS. And all from New Orleans. But |
hope that we shall have committee little more south
ern the next time
The question being taken upon the amendment, il was
agreed to-ayes IS, noes not counted
,r posr-RoUT BILL. .
Mr. RUSK from the Committee on the Post Office and
Post Roads, to whom referred the bill to establish
certain post routes the United States, reported back
the same with amendments, and asked It's immediate
consider alton. ...
The Senate proceeded, in committee of the whole,
to the consideration of said BILL and the reported amend.
After having been further amended. on motion by Mr.
HALE, the bill reported TO the Senate Me amend
ments were concured and the amendments ordered 10
be engrossed for third reading OF the bill
COLLINS LINE STEAMERS
The Senate resumed the consideration OF the naval ap
MI. PEARCE moved to amend the bill by inserting the
following; s" .
".s % enacted Ths o The as ~ Of the Navy
for the future conveyance OF the mails between New York
and Liverpool the rate OF $500 900 annum Provided,
That the increase OF hereby allowed at
any time be discontinued by authority OF Congress"
MIR p said l will state to the Senate my reason for
offering that amendment. believe am warranted in
saying that il this line OF does receive
additional compensation from the government 1t will
necessarily break down. The profits at the present time
siderable loss At the time il is the only one OF our
mail steamers which pays the expense IN the receipts IRON
postage. The receipts BY that line for February were
very nearly 7O00 and they have been constantly and
rapidly increasing that the postage receipts OF the
las, month, if carried through the year, viii very nearly
pay the compensation proposed to be given by this amend
ment. ces .g5tI.s ... ...@
Another consideration is that the allowed to these
steamers upon the agreement that they should be OF
a certain tonnage They were to be OF 5000 tons bur
den They have built, however, larger ships than they
obliged to build-some OF them being 5000 tons
burden The principal object OF the appropriation In the
rs place to encourage the building of large steamers
The Atlantic, and particularly TO pass between Liver
pool and New York. 1t is national matter IT Is
m.tt q public importance and OF national feeling ina,
this country and the only one which IS in competition
and which a most formidable competitor, with the line
supported by the British government at the expenditure
M. SOULE. rise to poin, of order. Has there
been any estimate for this
Mr.. PEARCE. There have been letters received from
the Secretary OF the Navy do not know whether the
Senate will consider them precisely estimate, but
will read from them;
mi.tee Naval Affairs propose to pay him at the rate Of
s6oOooO per annum have the honor to suggest thar, Il
such be the OF Congres there viii be needed
a further appropriation OF S2oocoo"
Mr.. SOULE submit to the Chair whether tina, be an
MI PEARCE | will not argue the point Of order
but will ask the decision Of the Chair under the rule
Mr. YULEE As this amendment 10 one likely 10 lead
to discussion, and there number OF amendments
IRON Tue NhNA Soululttt, many OF WHICH look W re-
form and re,renchment, which will not lead TO discus.
sion, but which may be lost If postponed by long dis
cussion upon eonroveried matter. would suggest 10
the senator the pfopriey OF Withdrawing his amendment
until these can be acied upon
MIR. PEARCE. prefer TO wait for the decision Of the
Chair upon this point of order
The PRESIDENT. This is the rule adopted for the
OF the Senate al tins session, with regard TO
appropriation bills:
mo amendment proposing additional appropriations
viii be received any general appropriation BILL unless
be m ads cuuy out the provisions OF existing law,
act or resolution previously passed by the SEN
during thai session. or In pursuance OF an estimate from
the head OF some OF The departments; and amendment
shall be received whose object provide for private
claim although the may have been previously
toned by the Senate"
In the construction OF this rule, the Senate knows
on one occasion the Chair submitted il 10 the Senate
They decided in III that the proposition could not
he received In conformity with that decision the Char
decided against receiving proposition made by the
aor from Mississippi On third occasion the Chair in
tmated strongly, and perhaps went far TO decide
in the first instance but IN consequence OF his belief that
II rested with The Senate themselves 10 construe his rule
which they had adopted for their government and that
did not become absolutely necessary for the Chair himself
decide, be left IL for ibe Senate decide and the Sen
voted 10 receive the proposition which the Chair
thought conhcled with the rule. The Chair will there
fore pursue the with regard TO this and again
submit IL 10 The Senate whether the letter the senator
has read is such estimate TO Justify him IN offering
his ane ndmenl to general appropriation bill. That
question the Char submits 10 the Senate 10 decide
Mr. PEARCE. There is an existing law by which
these vessels in effect the property OF the government
and liable become solely and exclusively the prop
erty OF The government submit. therefore, that APP
preparation to prevent their breaking down will be 10
carry into effect an existing law.