The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-03-20
CONGRESSIONAL.
DESCRIBED DEBATE.
SATURDAY, MARCH /, 1851
lEyENINa SESSION.
SENATE.
RIVERS AND HAIR BORIS.

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| The question recured upon the amendment Of Mr.
CLEMENS restricting the application of The Appropriation
OF S5O0OO Tor the Improvement OF the Tennessee river
TO that part OF The nver between Chattanooga Tennessee
and Decatur, Alabama
! Mr. BORLAND do not intend to make speech
assure The Senae that they need be under alarm
upon that score But do want TO say very few words
and Tor two reasons is, that wish 10 reply IN two
or three words remark of the senator from Georgia
| [Mr DAWSON During the course of his remarks, in
which be seemed 10 pay me the compliment OF attaching
some Importance TO some remarks that made, he dwell
at considerable length upon the gross lmpropflety OF
adopting any feature in measure which might not meet
his lull appreciation.
| Mr. CLEMENS rise to a point of order. II is this
This is an amendment which is pending 10 limit the
appropriation Tor the Tennessee between the points
of Chattanooga Tennessee, and Decatur, Alabama.
submit that discussion upon the merits OF The bill is
| out Of order while such an amendment is pending
The PRESIDENT The question of order being raised
by The from Alabama, the Chair has hesilancy
in saying that the discussion upon the general merits OF
the bill while an amendment involving but single por
hon OF The bill Is under consideration, would not be IN
order, though today the Senate have taken wide la
tude in discussing The question OF internal improvements
| MIR FOOfE think the friends of the bill ought 10
be allowed 10 consume any amount OF lime that they
choose 10 consume in the discussion
| Mr.. BORLAND Dol understand tina, the course OF
| remarks that was engaged IN was not IN order
The PRESIDENT. The Chair will state again that
the senator from Alabama Mr. CLEMENsl made the
point OF order whether while an amendment OF partic-
ular description pending, it would be in order
ter into the genera merits OF the bill and OF the whole
subject of internal improvements The Chair decided that
| II would not he in order.
| MI BORLAND. | was not intending 10 go into dis
cussion Of the whole system of internal improvements ;
bu, wanted simply TO reply in few words-which
would have been through with by this tmeto remarks
made in the discussion which has been going on all
| Mr. CLEMENS. That discussion was out of order
taking range the whole merits OF the bill make
the point oil order that the discussion must be
fined TO The merits Of this amendment
Mr. BADGER. raise another point OF order think
the from Arkansas MIR BoRLANDl has spoken
twice already upon this amendment and If so, he cannot
speak upon again according 10 the rules OF the Senate
am very sorry to do this, because he and are upon The
same side OF this great question Laughter
| Mr.. BORLAND. II | am permitted to 90 on, will
relieve those senators in moment who seem so averse
Mr.. BADGER, Very WELL if you will no, speak any
Mr.. BORLAND Unnecessary, | may reply to the re
marks of other senator's in regard 10 myself and what
Mr.. BADGER Then mus, raise the point of order
MI DICKINSON The senator from North Carolina
The rule tha, member shall speak twice in day,
This is evening session. and that rule has no appca
h j I1%sE'sE Dos. hs senate, ,on North
Carolina persevee in his point OF order
! Mr.. BADGER. oh, no /; will withdraw II.
Mr.. BoRLAND. ! shall have but lew words 10 say.
will say, then, reference TO the remarks OF the sena-
tor from Georgia, [Mr DAwsoSl-
! Mr.. CLEMENS. raise my point OF order
| Tie PRESIDENT. The Chair has decided that point
Of order
Mr. BORLAND The senator from Alabama must
first ascertain whether my remarks are 10 apply 10 his
The PRESIDENT. The Chair has already decided
that general discussion upon the bill, or the general
subject OF internal improvements would not be ~ Order
bat that the senator must discuss the amendment.
| Mr.. BERlilEN. | beg leave TO make remark upon
this call 10 order s 10 question the poprIey oil the
decision Of the Chair as to what or snotn order be-
fore my disorder had been committed The senator from
L Ia Ar mk Is
out of order in calling the senator from Arkansas Mr
BoRLAkpl 10 order before he had committed disorder
MIR CLEMENS. MIR President
| MIR FOOIE. ! wish 10 reply 10 the honorable sena-
Tor from Georgia, L Mr.. BrRRrES
Mr. CLEMENS, Iha, IS my province. =,
| Mr. FOOTE. did not thai the senator from Ala
bama mir. CLEMrNsl had the floor,
! The PRESIDENT The senator from Arkansas has
the floor, unless he is called 10 order.
| Mr.. FOOTE. hope he will permit me word in re-
gard TO this point of order,
| Mr. BORLAND Certainly.
! Mr.. FOOTE. merely mean 10 say iha, the senator
from Alabama in my opinion, perfectly in order in
his call 10 order; because The honorable from
Georgia Mr. BrRRIrNl must have perceived, If he had
been listening TO The remarks OF The honorabe senator
the remarks OF his Mr. BrRRrssl colleague-the other
senator from Geotga, [Mr. DAwsoNl-whose remarks
did sppeIain 70, 70 lns general menl. OF the blu
necessity of auesting this debate. The rule is: "When
member l. called 10 order by another member, he shall
| sit down.
| MI. bAlpth Alh his SealJ OH uoWhr p'hLANp'
! The PRESIDENT. -"unl The question Of order is
decided BY the CHAT. But when the Chair does decide
II is longer subject OF discussion, unless an appeal
! is taken.
MIR. BoRLAND II the senator from Alabama had
listened my remarks, he would have found that they
would have been strictly ~ order according TO his lner
pretation Of the rule for going to speak directly
10 his amendment-to reply To the senator from Georgia
| [Mr DAWSON IN regard TO that amendment IAe sena-
from Georgia, ~ speaking upon The amendment o the
from Alabama says that that which ne proposes
to amend Is something very Objectionable IN the DIN II
was 10 that that intended 10 repy-to hs remarks upon
which the from Alabama proposes to amead was
exceedingly oblectonable-so Objectionable that would
prevent him from voting for the whole bll, however
good the other portions Of the bill might be, and however
much he might desire To
Mi DAWSON, (in,erposng) beg leave TO say that
the senator from Arkansas is mistaken II he supposes a
said anything upon the amendment spoke on the ap-
propraon ior the survey OF the hIssssppi rver above
| 1t Anthonys falls That is what was speaking upon
and did refer to the Tennessee appropriation, or the
amendment proposed by the senator from Alabama IN re-
gard 10 H.
40 ofien, and much time will be consumed, that sba
be Obliged TO continue the debate further than wish
should have been through before this time u had been
permitted to have gone with my remarks. hope
may now he allowed to proceed upon that point Then
that feature IN the hi being objectionable, vluaed
The whole bill, and prevented IFS beng passed That pp-
rion one, desire 10 say. that the senator from
Georgia could not take upon thus occasion.
| Mr. CLEMENS That is the vety point at which
called the honorable senator 10 order before ba has
nothing to do with this amendment at all. THIS ~ pre-
c,-ely The point al uhich called him to order before
rhe amendment TO restrict the appropriation tor me
Tennessee rver between two particular points
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