Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-02

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s.,,s mi, ct basis save that in fixing
white population and taxation co'nmne', lisa
| capita,ion free negroes, as wen %
and law process. 80, -. ,hc ,--,,.i- |
| Mr. Bolts suggested thnt il was lux '''
ton that had Deem voted down On,
II was read and the difference, as "'' 49,
Mr. RondrDh felt bound 10 voie i't ~. 80 - H., o,
a. H., ~ i h,s;s-such was UNDERSTOOD w 'hc can
proposed IN c far farther CONCESSIONS
tuehts woau ho' III; conscience would not allow him to
IN one on the other. In the last Conrcn
ton the West in minority =" ,mo b and E
MT: . S Mr Isirh and other Eastern men went Tor
cnmnron,ise No the West had me popular l'foy, anu
inc auop.i"' ~ intense excitement. lie rc:ered 10 the
an1uare oil majority here in adding insult to
injury He had sectional eelngsont Whle ttne 10 ms "W
9n he regarded himself as Vrginan and was willing
seG"a' rcgnrd for the feelings of the whole State.
Sot of Fauquier could not sit quietly and hear the
of the gentleman on e yerSav VI nToved s 10 be-
a minority The gentleman says he Is pledged 10 go
for the mixed basisye not Tor the SGa DhsS s M
ontnnd that there difference between The mixed basis "l
80 ,ha, proposed now? The records shcw that The mix
ID bosis in 30 explained by Judge Green its author and
bv G. Johnson and other leading men, was dcn'icly the
same MS that proposed If the gentleman is pledged TO
the mixed basis of '29, he is also pledged to the Ssd
basis AGAINST which he yesterday cast his vote MI
Scn said compatible with justice for the gentle
man 10 throw entire blame Eastern gentlemen on
nrcnnn, of the course of debate We had come here TO
olive our votes according to the dictates OF duty OUT
We have been met with attempts at Intimidation threats
of sccessionto break up our deliberations Some seh'
men have with foregone determination to achieve thelr
pur?ose they BY legitimate action but usuccess'
full 10 defeat the legitimate action OF this body by With
drawing from il. No Eastern member had threatened or
wns prepared 10 resort such actonbut were all de-
tenncd TO submit fairly and honestly TO what may prove
the legitimate determination of this body The East laa
not abandoned the fair field of argument for that OF denunc
lion designed TO excite iniamed state OF the public
mind any where Have not all, or nearly all me west
ern members on the other hand, aoanaoneo u.e i".'
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sonul or Individual but sectionato influence Tue func
mind in the Western section of Virginia? Weha been re-
presented as arslncras" claiming superiority over 'he
West They pointed to slave property ana repre-
sented us as willing degrade brethren OF the Nes 70
level with slaves They have res3rted 10 every ePu
used by Northern ree-soil papers me gentleman rom
Mason and Jackson has said that should separate in our
legislative halls those members VINO represented inc
MI? S. thought the gentleman might have gone farther aha
oso seoaraed the members who represented those without
r Fisher said that what he had said intended 10
shew what the arguments of Eastern members would lead
TO- He however had only spoken for himself and not Tor
the West where he had sought to alay and not ntiame
public sentiment lie did not ike 10 near so huch Vi large
proprietary rights.
principle base representation on property TO certain cX
He thought such arguments as had oeen USED o!
Western gentlemen, calculated TO iname the public
mind Mr.. S. repealed all idea Of any just cause for de-
nunciaion OF Eastern members in asserting that they
sought TO degrade Western He referred the federal ba
sis in the u s. Constitution not degrading TO the northern
The PRINCIPLE is the ha mjw e He also re- re-
iered the Senate of the T. When Little Delaware had
as much power Virginia. was Virginia thereby degr"-
dcd The gentleman from Kanawha was willing to leave
in schedule the appouonment on the federal basis "a INK
ed basis of population and property for the House OF Rep
resentaves in Congress- The gentleman saw no dcgada-
ton there. m
MIR. Summers desired to know if Mr. Scott willing to
take the federal basis proposed by Mr. Bowden instead OF
the mixed basis
Mr. Scott F. said that he regarded the mixed basis as
the safest wsest and best sysem-but he would not hcs
moment between the federal basis and the white ba;
liz hrip
Virginia. and their poscrity the mischief OF the principle oi
mere numbers Mr.. Scott continued at length (abou ~
hours in al discuss he merits of the qucston-directng
himself prncpaI? , Iir. Summers
Mr. Randolph had no idca in making his few remarks OF
throwing open The gates for general discussion OF the merits
Green in Convention of 1922 combining white popui-
ton md TAXATION He quoted from the debates of 9 an IL
Illustration OF the principle, show that by Judge Green's
propositions Tie whole population and TAXATION added togo
lher and divided by dvso was TO be made the
basis of epesenlaonand not according 10 the proposed
PLAN the population supply half the representatives
and the other half Such was and had been
his understanding Of Judge Green's proposition Mr. r. re-
ferred the epithel 'plundcrcrs applied by Mr. Scott to
the West and his further remark that good government
was only TO be looked for in The East.
Mr. Scott Of F. An explanation Of these remarks has been
made which generally satisfactory The gentleman may
have been absent
Mr. Randolph said that there the time, more in the
genemans manner than in what lie said Mr. r. also cited
the language OF his friends from Halifax and Mecklenburg
calculated widen the breach between the two sections
Mr. Stanard read from the debates OF the remarks OF
sew that the mixed basis proposed is precisely the
same that proposed by Judge Green in 1922 viz: 10 give
taxation. 1t the South Carolina basis The principle
worked ont in 29 by Mr.. G. Johnson, an opponent
of the measure. 1t was The mixed basis.
Mr. Wise asked if Judge Green's the only Mixed basis
proposed in 49, and if was not rejected
Mr.. Stanurd. 1t was not the only Mixed basis offered
's mr Wjse uS@e Green's Mixed basis was rejected
other propositions OF Mixed basis were also rejected and
finally compromise adopted which Eastern gentlemen have
admitted TO be the Mixed basis.
Mr.. Sanarl had simply commended that Judge Green's
mixed basis was the same us is now proposed
Mr.. Randolph had looked to the common understanding
of the country regard the meaning OF the mixed
bass-no what it might be made by arithmeticai cacula
ton. In discussion before the people he had resisted the
mixed basis proposed by gencmenand all he could
do maintain the character honest and upright man.
carry the mixed basis lie understood it at the
time Of his election
Mr. Conway explained that the BILL calling this Conven-
ton together framed on the mixed basis now offered Mr.
Dorman Of Rnckbridgc had Offered an amendment which
was rejected, fixing the basis mere mnging Of men
and money-on and property aggregated together
Mr. Campbell Of Nolloway had in able speech. fully
planned that in the bill adopted one half OF the representa-
ton be based population, and the other halt on
taxation
Mr. Ferguson was a member Of the Legislature
aud never could understand what principle that bill was
framed The LIST Auditor MIR Heath, had worked out the
apportionment but no one knew the principle IT nc had
would have voted for the BILL Until Ec heard in the Con-
venon he never understood what was the mixed BASIS as
now explained
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of the BILL and called Mr. Shelley, also member of that
legislature sustain his understanding of H. Mr. C. said
that the instance of member from ibemare The bill had
laid the table, for examinations and MIR. Randolph
might have obtained the Information from that delegate or
from the papers.
Mr. Shelley said there nothing in the documents TO
show what principle the bill had been iramed-bu on
making the calculation of Mr. Heah's npporlionmcn, he
had found that the principle OF the mixed basis rs ca
planned, had been employed.
Mr.. Summers said the gentleman from Fauqucr had
walked the cmbcrs of the fire through which had JUST
passcdhad reopened the whole debate and he felt COMPEL
ed say something in reply. 1t late to-day that he
should prefer delaying it till tomorrow.
On motion of MIR. Letcher the Committee rose, Mr.
Beales proposition ordered to be printed and Con-
yenlon adjourned.
Mr.. Summers has the floor this morning
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