The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-02-13

The question being taken upon the first amendment
oelng an amendment to insert. alter line 49, he words
- Fer contingent expenses tn. office Of indian Affairs
the amendment was agreed to-
The next amendment to insert in line So, alter the
strike out in lines 50 and 81, the words ..ss4o u.s..
and insert The words "$29.55o o0.'
| Mr.. HUNTER This amendment is made necessary
IN order TO conform the salaries OF these temporary clerks
to the salaries paid to other clerks employed in the same
| in the estimate.
The question being tax en- on the amendment, it was
adopted
The next amendment was to strike out the lines 1873.
1919, l3o, and l3l, as follows:
'.For expenses Of holding treaties with the various tribes
OF indians In California; addton The appropriations oil
the Both September, lr5O, S25,oO0"
| Mr. HUNTER. Mr. President, $25 900 were appro-
o n. y ns s q ss s.,
at more bnt the House cut down the appropra
ton TO $3.50 Upon considering this subject, the ex-
hs
Mr. GWlN. | have just received intelligence from
California in regard to the state of things between the
whites aud the Indians, which shows that it is absolutely
necessary TO hold treaties with these Indians. or there
may be general The appropriation at the last
sion was only $4,000. 1t is well known here in the
Senate that The Department of the Interior at the last
sion recommended appropriation Of 100000 but the
House struck il downto 25, 900. The department now
recommends that this appropriation be made, as abso.
treaties. According to the information that have lately
received from California, it is rendered absolutely
sary that there should be such treaties held, or there
would be general war. hope therefore, that the ap-
preparation will be made
Mr. EWING Since this amendment passed the COM
mitee have also received information from California
which leads me to the same opinion with the senator
from California himself. believe il is necessary TO re-
IN Mr. Il HUNTER Under these circumstances am in.
disposed press the amendment Ii be the pleasure OF
The Senate, willing the $25 00O should be retained
The question being taken upon the amendment, it was
The next amendment was to insert after line 1874 the
following:
..For the payment the Cherokee nation OF the
due under the 'nnt article OF the treaty OF August.
suan to the Of Congress 7h August lsss and
for paid agents and others employed by the gov
sss cseroiees s7ascs and interest On the
the rate OF per centnm per annum from the
out OF any money treasury onerw se appropri-
a,ed But interest shall be paid after the irs, Of April.
The said Cherokees Provided hoever Tha, the sum now
appropriated shall be considered as final settlement Of all
The Cnerokees Of 1885 1886
I'd 1896 and part thereof shall be paid to the said Cher
os.e. uni lhey bind themselves in some mode deemed
cans agans the Unied States. under the said treaties
for removal subsistence, spol'aons, reus prescriptions
ferries, OF or other matter growing Out
transactions under those treaties
/ MIR HUNTER This item is old acquaintance o
the Senate. IL a matter in relation TO which there ha
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Senate has expressed its opinion more than 1t il
an appropriation to wind up the transactions between th,
United States and the Eastern Cberokees, under th
treaties of 1899 and 1896, and the treaty oil lS46 Tn
amour, has settled by the proper accounting officers
and there doubt difficulty in regard to the items
900 for the agents who are employed to remove them
Ii was the opnion however, OF the office OF lndia
Affairs that this should not have been charged TO tn
Cherokees under opinions previously expressed by ,h
Senate view OF the fact lha. the government has no
generally charged Indians with the expenses OF agent
when they were removed There some doubt in
laton TO but when come TO look into the items,
find that # the Cberokees were bound by H. we IN ou
admins oil the fund have certainly administered
very wastetuy and they were no, bound to pay mpop
er cbaryes Under all the circumstances, II has beer
deemed proper TO appropriate 10 ihsm the amount which
the Department OF the Interior has estimated. believe
an il is known OF the senators here-and perhsp
they may recollect the discussions that have akeI
place upon this sublect-thst we have been bountIiu u
our reanen, of the Indians In two decisions OF tn
Senate their opinions have been declared, and in order
carry them Out, is best now to make this appropriation
senator from Virginia TO inform the Senate whether ihi
is in confmity not with the recommendation OF tn
Indian Commee at the last session
Il Mr. HUNTER tie
Mr. BELL. For some of the members OF that conme
al the last session felt thai the OF the honorabl
senator and The committee which he belongs, sus,ane
they by the Senate bad been such a. to put then
into Coventry IN relation to this Indian question.
i Mr. HUNTER ] will say 10 The senator that !, /
strictly in conformity with that report
Mr. BELL. Will merely add that The committee ba
had thai subject under consideration for two whole
sons and lhe feeling which was inspired by the
of the honorable senator upon that occasion tina
when the Finance Committee or any other committee
should undertake in one or two days time To conslde
this subject proposition OF this sorwhen they shoul
undertake to say ba, because they had not thre
or four days' or even weeks lime, they would mol
slider il-ii was hardly the consideration TO which the
were entitled.
Mr. HUNTER do not understand this discussion
do not know what the honorable senator wants, W
. have given him all tina, he has asked.
Mr. BELL Very WE'LL do not ask any more.
only want ], put in with an acknowledgment on III
par of the Finance Committee that they took il after
iull examination on their part
Mr. HUNTER will say to the honorable senator
If he raises the question, that examined H. not onl
al the time which he REFERS but since and am OF th
opinion that my conclusion then was correct But
Welded 10 the opinion expressed by the Senate aud
have reported conormably TO that opinion
the Committee on Finance question and that IL
whether these appropriations close all the obligation
arising under the treaty with the Cherokees.
Mr. HUNTER They do
Mr. DAWSON And it is final and conclusive
Mr. HUNTER II is, sir
Mr. WALKER. | offer the following amendment :
the amendment Of the committee:
PyoriJed That the money hereby appropriated shall
ps directly the Indian Indians 10 whom It IL due
and in no case 10 any agent or attorney OF such indian
Indians
Mr. DAWSON. do trust that my friend from Wis
copsin will withdraw his amendment will say TO hin
that the Cherokees manage their atiaiis IN wa
which shows that they are exceedingly Intelligent men
and capable OF managing their own affairs Their agent
are held to a. strict responsibility to the government
the Cherokees in our government when ther agent
thoss duties have been discharged. with but one cxcep
lion Why ahould undertake control them tn