Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-07-04

Mr.. RIDLEY. In its then existin, for1n.

Pi9pos.'lon OF the gentleman fr m Fsuq,er-half nm
,I' o"' mat gentleman announced to the cosn!itte
| az "oulo never vote 10 carry il ont in its uumiti
S'teu lorm will not refer to What Occur red out
doors VIII not advert to declarations made out of TIL
nouse out plant myself upon the position taken b.
Ptoh'heht gentleman Of eastern Virginia. prominen
I'm OF .his body may say, with dsrespcct L
oer gentlemen, leader, great leader Of the mixet
OASIS interest In this great contest before had taker
any nitiatory steps upon this question of compromise
It's Wen known that many mornings ago, when the
proposition was submitted by the gentleman from Rap
pahahhock, Mr.. SrRoTHgR) that this house would ad
Journ with a view 10 if practicable whether thi.
question Of basis could be adjusted the distinguished
gentleman from Fauquier rose in his place and in re
spouse 10 ali inquiry propounded to him by the disn
Suished gentleman from Acconlac, fMr. WIsE1 said he
was Tor Compromise that the subject ought to be nd.
usted that this question ought to be arranged that this
question ought to be compromised, but that there ought
10 DC no surrender Of the east upon this floor Since
thal declaration made there has been an exempli
..easion oil what my friend from Fauqucr meant BY
compromise and no surrender" lie has explained
III HIS pIacehe has proposed what he meant by SOON
promise and no surrender" and the record shows 10
some extent what my friend from Southampton means
~ compromise aud no surrender" The proposition
81 the gentleman from Fauquier for compromise has
Deen presented before this committee in competition
win The report OF the compromise committee The
'o'es VI gentlemen have been given upon that proposi-
toh. The proposition Of the gentleman from FauqIuier
was to strike OH, the report of the compromise commit
!
zee vii! bear with just for moment TO refer to the
remarks with which my friend from Fauquier accom-
panied the presentation of his compromise plan before
| his committee. He stated, if | understood him COR
recty-l know if misunderstood him lie will correct
mc-that this plan Of his met favor with NV eastern
Trends upon this floor He stated that it had met with
favor from large portion Of his eastern friends-thal
nearly all o! his eastern friends preferred il TO the re.
port OF The compromise committee aud that he could
not be Induced TO offer il competing proposition
E. e.
vote to sustain it-and sustain tin good faith
after it so: into the He then presented his
plan OF compromise under these circumstances. lie
made two distinct objections TO the report OF the
COMMITTEE. One that the geographical dYi.
lion was preserved in the State, and the other was
To the manner of re-apportionnlcnt He went lit
tie further and said he was willing to conceie one
majority in his report; he willing to down,
to 1870, so AS TO have the reappotonmcnt TO take ef
feet in 1870. Now, wish lust for a few moments to
see, not exactly what position gentlemen occupy whu
prefer the white or suffrage basis as understand them
10 the report OF the compromise commtee-ihc so.
called compromise committee often referred to
by my friend from the city Of Richmond--but wish to
what position gentlemen occupy who vote to sustain
the proposition offered By the gentleman from Fauquer
aud announced rs preferable proposition to the report
Of the committee.
Now, VIVA. is the proposition Of the gentleman from
Fauguier
| rr. STANARD. If the n,cman will allow me !
word in reply to tic remark he has made, desire &c
say that tie ouly vote which have given upon this
question has been upon the motion to strike out the
proposition Of the committee. acknowledge as be.
tween the proposition of the committee, and the propo
,iti9n Of the gentleman from Fauquicr, prefer tn.
proposition Of the gentleman from Fauquer But nc
man Is authorized to say from any thing have SAID
elsewhere that the proposition of the gentle
:naa from Fauquicr commanded my appreciation.
preferred it between the two the least Of two evils
voted 10 strike that proposition out-thc only vote
taleu.
r.. MARTIN. | made the statement as made by
;he gentleman from fauquer, wien he presented hi:
proposition. presume he was listening to my state
.nenl If had stated him incorrectly he would have
corrected Inc. am aware Of the fact Of the vote o.
the gentleman from the city Of Richmond. But ASK
aim upon that occasion the report Of the committee
had been stricken Inc had voted to insert the pro-
position offered BY my friend from the county Of Eau
que-'
Mr. STANARD. ] should have voted unguestona-
Div upon the motion insert. have no hesitation
in sitting that preferred other ropositions-propos
,ion which believe might have been carried, 10 the
proposition Of The gentleman from Fauquier If he de-
sired my individual opinion upon the subject
". MARTIN. No. merely asked tor the state.
mem whether he would have voted 10 insert;
i Mr. STANARD. If had So voted in committee Of
of the Whole, should have coupled with that vote a
distinct declaration that voted for that time and for
that purpose, without final commitment as 10 my
course.
Mr. MARTIN. understand. The gentleman makes
various qualifications as to how lie was voting. If he
had voted to insert it he would have stood now be-
fore this House precisely in reference TO that pro-
position a. the friends of the compromise commit.
tee stand in reference to their report Ito would
have voted for It. / was going on TO say how
the report stood as contrasted with the proposition
Of compromise submitted by the gentleman firm
Fa,alier Now he gives ma joriiy of twelve i'll the
Senate, and says he willing to give in the house
fourteen 10 the west. He stated he was willing TO re-
drc the majority 10 two. lie would have had Sen
4, with majority of twelve instead OF Senate with
majority Of ten. Now, state distinctly and wish to
b,undersood from the first moment entered into TINS
Convention, when heard the proposition coming from
s.Leru gentlemen, when heard the ultra opinion Of
o.teru gentlemen as to the in which they wish
cd 10 have the legislative department organized lhat
have ever been opposed 10 putting one house upon one
basis and the other house upon the other But state
rther and in that statement will be sustained by every
eastern gentleman who hears me, that Whue IN nearly
III the plans Of compromise they wished TO put one
b,e upon one basis and the oheru upon the other still
as an ultra proposition, as all eastern Prop'so, as
imposition for protection preferred even 10 the mixed
,sis in both houses, very many ofmy friends early III
Ee session preferred the Senate upon taxation, and the
ever house upon the suffrage basisas original pro-
position and not as proposition Of compromise. how
ever very soon that compromise could be elect
\ tLexcept BIZ a division of the houses
Ter TO some extent personal to myself and will dctan
this Convention no longer say, as have SAID tla'
m nroposition Of compromise could be effected which
Aid not have division Of the two Houses for its basis
The proposition Of the gentleman from Fauquer, CIR
Sco1T was to base the Senate upon taxation and the
House tpon the suffrage basis
When submitted proposition TO this body some
days ago, that they should raise committees 10 see
whether if practicable, this question could not DC ad
usted and when it raised, was earnestly IN the
hone that they would to some harmonious deter
n;poton. And allow me to say, presented that reso
luton, not doubling the correctness and Propr!etT o.
o;nr SO, and for the reason tina! thought 1t The oes
mode of obtaining fair and final settlement OF TN!
question ~.
When in the committee knew that the eastern dcle
ration preferred Senate upon taxation and also
4 Iiousc upon the suffrage basis stood out day ane
night for that proposition, although kne" the TACT una
The proposition which We have reported IS even betie
for the dist rict represent than Senate oaseu who1
mon taxation have surrendered my individual view
and opinions in ORDER if practicable to get the supper
and concurrence of eastern gentlemen, whom EneH
wished upon that plan, 10 adjust tins question pu1
found that could not be effected. We obtained PR
noston which think is equivalent to It, because
ayes Senate to the east with ten majority, which IS
oermaneut majority till 1865 might refer the gen
tIsman from Richmond city on my left, (ar srASARp
70 tile argument of his colleague, Hlr Boris upon tn
rrbt and ask him whether that ten majority is, or
t nrotgction TO eastern interests: More than that
when made that report had not the remotest douo