Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-06-13

lneu 10 the DUTY Of proposing to the PeoPi. I'm
pleasure they may adopt or reject. say again
that IN looking to the narrow character VI .n
with which clothed and the duty oonheeo 10 us
have not been able to see and cannot no" see Jus
LITIGATION for the extraordinary exctement anu leelng
engendered here There is member oil tps oouy more
convinced than am Of the expedieney anu necessity
looking to the welfare of this commonwealth OF making
an apportionment of representative power VIII
in way to taxation And there is no gentleman IN
this body more resolved than am to 40 III t Al 'ne
lies to carry out in the constitution that view III
to which believe the welfare of this ealth
dependent Now gentlemen upon the other soe enter
tain opposite opinions-their CONTIGUOUS Juo' as
deep mine their resolutions just az h1eu 10
doubt not that they are as fxedstIl see why
this controversy between us may not % upon
some ground to which we may all come IN sPisl OF
compromise which, whilst it will put US unool tne neees
sty Of abating somewhat from the hat we
have heretofore urged will involve from gen
teme upon the other side which may De not only aams
sable with them but satisfactory to thef constituents
When my friend from Rappahannock nir. 'IhoIash)
in spirit of peace and of compromise, PROPOSE
before to final action upon thls P.opos,tion
that shall adjourn the deliberations oil TIM ooay or
one day. for the avowed purpose upon MS par
opportunity for gentlemen to Interchange
themselves, and hold consultations how mas oeeh mot
by gentlemen upon tho other sidei -,
MIR. EDWARDS. rise to point OF ordeI; unaet-
b
is not debatable
The PRESIDENT The motion to ad ourn is not de-
batabe but the Chair has permitted gentlemen 70
remarks in accordance with leave of the convention
Mr.. PRICE. / move that the gentleman IRON fau-
quier Mr.. Scorr) have leave to proceed.
Mr. EDWARDS | must insist upon my punt o'
order
The PRESIDENT Tho gentleman from fauquier
MIR. Scorrj commenced his remarks by appearing 10 tae
Convention for leave and no objection being h"ue' ne
was permitted to proceed.
Dir. SHEFFEY l suppose that upon the interrup-
ton of the leave by objection from any Tue
Chair would be constrained to put the W tne
house in regard to the continuation OF the NJ OF
the gentleman from fauquier ask That the question
be now put, aud trust that he gentleman rom fau
uouier will b permitted to proceed IN thn' spil Of
kndness and Cancellation which manifested III nus re-
marks.
Mr. WISE. I am sorry that the gentleman from AL
gusta Mr. SnEFPRY) should have put the question IN the
way he has. think that when gentleman mas asked
for leave and no objection has been made ana ne mas
rome on with his remarks to extent nat Nc Is en-
titled to be heard think with all due SUBMISSION that
is the duty Of the chair to decide ~ no was
heard at the time the leave was asked that e leave
was granted and that the gentleman named mas the ght
to proceed shall certainly vote Tor the iea'e aho
hope the house will accord it.
The PRESIDENT. Permission was given unani'
mo,ISy to the gentleman from Fauquier Mr. oco1rl 10
submit remarks to the Convention, bu' the Char uhaer
stands that the house is not bound oy mat consent anu
can withdraw it; and then it becomes Ior the
majority to determine That has been the usage, ana IS
the only rule which will give the house the control of the
subject.
Mr. VOOLFOLK. ask tho yea. and nays upon
that question and in doing So mean no disrespec to
the gentleman from Fauquier, (Mr. seorT)
Mr. SCOTT do not take i. in any sSen Sc; sen' EN-
ho + hter
Mr. EDWARDS. l suppose that my friend from
Fauquier very well that intend no dsrespect or
unlindness to him. But really think that it is nece'sa
ry tina, the rules of this body should be more strictly
observed than they have been heretofore.
The PRESIDENT. The rules Of the house have
been Observed and the Chair did not permit the debate
to on except by the unanimous consent OF The Con-
vention
Mr. EDWARDS It seems to me that motion was
made to adjourn by the gentleman from hapPahannock
Ar SrRorHEE for the express purpose OF preventing
debate and of preventing any discussion; and ii dis
cusson is to arise upon the motion TO adjourn it might
just as well have not been made at al-better not have
been made in my opinion My object is TO stop all dis
cussion, and insist upon my point of order
The PRESIDENT. The Chair decides tina. the
question must be submitted to the house whether the
gentleman from Fauquer have leave TO proceed or not
Mr.. STANARD. would respectfully, and in that
spirit which am sure my friend from Fauquer knows
entertain towards him, suggest that he continues his
all probability give rise to remarks from other gentle
men, the very result which presume it is his object
and the object of Others TO avoid There is great deal
Of force in the suggestion Of the gentleman from Fair
fax, (Alr. EDwAnps,) and think if We will avoid OK
ctcmen upon this question: the best way is to take the
vote at once upon the adjournment am perfectly sat-
is6ed that if this discussion is go on, the pat of
the gentleman from Fauquer, it will provoke remarks
from other quarters. and the very result will ensue
which are anxious to avoid trust therefore, that
the gentleman will be willing to discontinue his re-
marks at this point. He has said enough to show the
spirit by which he is acuated.
Mr.. SCOTT. have not said enough to show what
10 say, and no gentleman has right to infer from
what have said that it is my purpose or my desire to
utter word calculated to excite tho sensibilties of
any person, the most exctable here. And rise now
for the purpose Of putting myself right in that respect
for the impression may obtain from what has been said
by gentlemen who have addressed this house that in
tended
Mv. STANARD. certainly did not say anything in
the slightest degree Objectionable. ! submit 10 the
Convention, to the good sense Of the gentleman from
Fauquer whether said anything in the slightest de-
gree calculated to lead for one moment to the impress
sion that what he had said calculated to increase
excitement. But suggested to him in spirit that /
thought he woudperfscty understand that he contin
ued his remarks, they would give rise to remark. from
other quarters which would produce the very excite
lnent which wish to avoid. There has been feeling
exhibited in this hall this morning as all have seen.
did not mean to say that drew any inference OF that
kind from the remarks Of the gentleman from Fauquier
On the contrary thought had said, that in his re-
marks he had said enough to show the spirit by which
he was actuated.
Mr. COX appeal to my friend from Orange (Mr.
WooLFoLK to Withdraw his call for the yeas and nays
upon this question Of leave
MIR. VOOLFOLK. will withdraw it.
So the call for the yeas and nays was withdrawn
Mr.. CLAIBORNE / shall vote for leave to be
granted to the gentleman from Fauqnier to address the
Convention at this time, and shall vote to give any
gentleman leave to address this Convention when he de-
sires it, And by way Of explaining my motive for Civ
ing that vote desire 10 call attention to the fact Ii at
have been indirectly charged of having on yesterday at
tempted to EN- barrass the reporting Of proposition to
the house, oy honestly Offering an amendment which
offered under the solemn instruction given TO me by the
people Of my district. thought was RICH. in Offering
it at that time and still think So And now call up
the Convention and the country to take notice Of who
are attempting embarrass the reporting OF th. prop
osition to the house. l shall vote against tho ad-
journment, and clear my skirts Of any attempt to en-
barrass the reporting Of proposition to the house
And call upon gentlemen who are in favor Of
that proposition to the house. to show their hands BY
voting against this motion ourn at this unca fol
time.
Mr. cox. would ask the gentleman from Kappa
hammock (Mr s7RoTHEn) to withdraw his motion to ad
journ so that we can hear the gentleman from Faquter
It can be renewed afterwards. But now, while there Il