Richmond daily times. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1853, 1851-02-18
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Union aud TOOK up Inc NlVef ana Harbour apprOpria
| ton Bill.
| Mr. MEADE was called to preside.
Mr.. BAYLY moved that the committee take up the bill
| making appropriations to supply deficiencies in the
appropriations tor the year ending June 30 1851 which
| was returned from the Senate with amendments.
| Mr.. DUER moved that the committee take up the bill
| making appropriations Tor certain rivers and har-
bours.
The Chairman ruled the motion 10 be out of order
Mr.. ScHENcK remarked that it was in Older, being
| the first bill on The calendar.
Mr.. McLANE, OF Mary land rose TO question; it was
not in order for the gentleman from New York to
move TO take up The River and Harbour bill, while the
motion of the gentleman from Virginia (Mr Bayly)
was pending. 1.-THE latter be voted down, then the
first would be in order
Mr. DUER said that he would content himself by
giving notice that he would take up the River
| and Harbour bill.
The question was taken, and the committee refused
to proceed to the consideration 1.-THE Deficiency bill
ayes 50, noes 1Ol.
Mr. BAyLY then moved that the committee take up
the bill making approp,iat ions Tor the support OF the
West Point Military Academy.
Mr. DuER | thought that had the floor. l post
poned my motion until that OF the gentleman from
Virginia voted upon.
The CHAIRMAN. The motion OF the gentleman is
uot in order 1t is ruled by the Chair.
motion made that the committee rise but it did
not prevai--ayes 81 noes 100.
MIR. DuER again moved that the River and Harbour
bill be taken up.
The CHAIRMAN said that the motion ofthe gentleman
from Virginia tMr Bayly) was pending.
Mr.. DUER moved to amend the motion by saying the
River and Harbour bill
The CHAIRMAN ruled the motion to be out of order
Mr. MORSE move that the House adjourn
Laughter. The motion was not in order in commit
The question was taken; and the committee refused
to take up the Military Academy billayes So, noes
Mr. DuER again moved that the committee proceed
to the consideration OF the River and Harbour bill.
The Chairman ruled the motion out OF order Tor the
reason that this Of the general appropriation
ills which have precedence by the rule.
MIR. DuER appealed from the decision.
Several of the rules read, when
The question taken on sustaining the decision
Of the Chair and decided in the negative-ayes 3d.
1903
The question was then taken on the motion of Mr.
Duer to proceed the consideration of the River and
Harbour BILL and decided in the aftirmative-a
noes 9.
Mr. McLANf, of Nd, was assigned the floor, having
reported the bill but gave way to
Mr.. HARRISON, who moved that the committee rise.
The motion was disagreed to.
The bill was then read.
when he was asked by several gentlemen to yield the
floor. He did against his wish, and to crafty his
friends He preferred however, to 60 on with what he
had to say.
The committee refused TO rise--ayes 80 noes 90.
Mr.. MORSE asked the gentleman whether it was his
intention to drive the bill through the House without
debate whether any time was to be liked for the ter
mna,ion of the discussion.
Mr. McLANE replied that if the chairman OF the Com
mttee OF Ways and Means would give him until the
fourth of March, it would afford him great pleasure to
further that far the time for debate was concerned
he would be willing submit to The chairman of that
committee, looking to the public business.
Mr.. BAYLy begged 10 say, in reply that it seemed TO
him that the House did not intend to give the Commit.
tee Of Ways and Means day for the public business
until the fourth Of March. [I.aughter.l
Mr.. MORSE was understood to say that il this bill
was passed by smotheling debate it would be forced
through; and if debate was allowed it would consume
more time than the appropriation bills
Mr.. McLANE said that when his friends should come
to an understanding it would give hmgrea pleasure to
proceed The excitement and agitation manifested on
both sides Of the House showed that the subject
of interest and Importance. there wanting any
consideration which should satisfy him that he should
approach the subject with deiberation and care
it was the unusua. feeling which accompanied the
motions to take it up as an appropriation BILL be-
caase he had not forgotten, nor had the committee
forgotten, that the last lime the bill consid
cred twas considered and received general ap-
preparation bill, and the bill proceeded with such
| He was bound to assume that it demanded OF him
careful and greater consideration in reporting it to the
House. and making such explanation of IFS features
would induce the House to give to it their support
| The committee would pardon him for suggesting to
| them that there no relation between general
system OF internal improvements, as known to the
people and the public men OF The country, and the
ional policy OF the counirytheie relation be-
tween this policy and specific appropriations tor speci
ic rivers and habouls, either tor light houses buoys
piers, and directing The removal OF Instructions. The
bill proposes to provide for public works, in the true
constitutional accepation of the tenn, Tor the commerce
| of the country. II the regulation OF commerce and
the laws regulating provide that vessels shall
enter particular ports and go from parcu ar ports
and get their registers and Licenses, there then it is
| the duty, under The power which regulates COM
merce that the transit Of the vessels shall be made
safe in such ports and that the bill ought not to go
beyond those limits More than three tourths Of the
objects embraced in this bill had been adjusted and
prepared by the republican Presidents Of the country.
down 10 Mr. Polk. The bill was founded on prnci-
piles liar to those on which the Democracy made
their in 1888 and 1910, and 1874; and he might
he allowed 10 express surprise at the heat OF op
position which had become Humorous and tacious in
view of the political elements.
MIR. BURT said he would be very glad if the gentle
man would say whether the Democratic party, as a
party either in Baltimore elsewhere, had constructed
internal Improvements part OF their platform.
Mr.. McLANE would give distinct reply. He had
said nothing about internal Improvement. He had spo
ken trvers and hatbors with great care and candor;
and he had presented his distinction to the committee.
What he had said, and now repeated, was, that this
River and Haroor bill the type Of The bills recommend
ed 10 Congress by every republican President, and sign
ed by every republican President.
Mr.. BURT said that he found THAT Jefferson, Madi-
son, Jackson and Polk believed that amendment of
the Constitution OF the United States was necessary to
Just lily The improvements OF rivers.
Mr.. McLANE did not say that Jefferson or Madison,
Polk, did not express an opinion that amendment OF
the Cons tuition necessary or to be desired. What
he said pertinent to The question that they
the bills.
Mr.. BuRt. Jefferson!
Mr. McLANE repeated, he said that they sgred b lis
which contained precisely not particular sumo, and OF
the character of the expenditure now proposed. He
did not mean go lar into details when and
where. reference 10 The Congressional Globe would
relieve him from the task Tor in that work the particu-
lars are given speeches. but he would simply say that
Jefferson signed such bills. He would not go back 10
Washington's administration; never had as good
one A voice That's iact."l Jefferson signed bills
for beacons and buoys, and piers, and 10 improve IL
vers.
Mr., BURT. What rivers?
Mr. McLANE AT Port Penn, Newcastle and Mar
Gus Hook, TO protect against the ice; and Madison
signed bill on bill. He protested 10 believe that Madi
son made the distinction, and that Jefferson didnot
make the true distinction. Jefferson made general
ohiecon 10 the whole system but never insisted on il