The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-02-18

ton; while at home II Is confined to = suge State
Hence il is that we have gone on with these sppoprla
tons from time TO time. ~
would not bave made these observations here, sir, bal
that il involves principle, and increases the public
pendlture Appeals made W the feelings oil the peo-
pie OF The country. which well calculated to induce
us to appropriate large amounts here 1t is bringing
down 10 that principle which IS called democracy-in
ceasing the SALARIES OF all having charge Of public
duties sir for one liberal in tie pa ynent oil pub
lie officers any But yet there certain disne
tons which oil have to be observed everywhere
Ii convinced that is necessary to pay these large
amounts To Jurors, would do it, But in nv own State il
done and not done IN any State in the Union
dislike TO the principle avowed here, that The time
has arrived when should begin increase our appro
pnatons in order pay higher salaries 10 those who
discharge the duties incumbent upon them citizens OF
the United States when performing these duties under the
general government than paid for the discharge OF
these duties under any State within the limits Of the
Union In Georgia lurymen get per diem at all they
get payment OF any kind except the Tor the
diets they render.
/ Now, sir, what the salaries in the State OF New
Hampshire Among the subordinate officers the highest
see is vi 200 The President OF the senate gets two
dollars aud nifty cents per day. and the speaker OF the
house gets dollars and fifty per day. The clerks
OF the senate and house get their fees, and believe
nothing else. Now sir, why is it that should max e
distinction between public duty discharged by the gov.
eminent OF the United States and public duty dis.
charged by Stale Why is il Is il for the purpose OF
raising the standard OF compensation Tor duties performed
for the OF the United States or is merely
because the money TO be taken from The treasury OF
the United states Let the principle operate every
where No citizen Of Georgia has to 20 beyond it's limits
to discharge his duty to the general government and he
discharges his duty TO the general government at
greater expense. except perhaps, the mileage, than to
his State Letus contne II to something like what
is and will warrant you the people will never complain,
unless they induced to believe they have been OPP
pressed by the laws Of The laws Of the United Slater.
We have now been under this government tor sixty
seventy years. and believe heretofore has been
SO high dollar and fifty There is an increase
from one dollar and twenty five up to one dollar and
fifty; and that upon principle which will give an ade-
quale compensation to those deserving it, The bill has
been drawn up by committee who understood this sub
jectby the older practitioners in courtsby the best
informed men in the discharge OF duties connected with
courts They have put II upon principle ain willing
it should stand upon Let take the bill is, and
prepared 10 pass it upon my faith in the judgment OF
those who have reported IT, who know better than do
The necessities OF every section OF the United States
| Mr. FOOrE. Mr. President, | have much respect
for the opinions OF the committee as any other member OF
the Senate and yet to learn the lesson the honora
bic from Georgia Mr.. DAwsoN endeavors 10 ad-
minister TO u.s. He take Tor granted that
mees never err. never saw committee that did not
sometimes make mistakes They not gods, but only
men, subject 10 all human influence in this body We'll,
believe they have erred in regard 10 this particular
subject, upon which shall no, enlarge. beg leave 10
remark in respect to the important distinction which
;any exists between juror who Is summoned by legal
process performing public duty, however reluctant he
may be, and those gentlemen who IRON lime to time offer
themselves candidates for the State legislature and for
seats in Congress- actuated by generous ambition TO
their country and 10 establish immortal fame as
statesmen in the land. In Great Britain we know that
mem OF the Parliament nothing, and am not
certain that not the best rule and If such PROPOSE
lion is brought for ard | will vote in support OF H. am
not certain II is not incompatible with the dignity OF legs
lalors to receive cent. When gentleman seeks him
self, without being called upon 10 his country IN
legislative body, 10 become law maker am not certain
that Is not little undgnifed in HIM to receive dollar
for his services But these gentlemen dragged from
their homes, compelled sometimes 10 travel hundreds
OF miles, subjected TO all the expense and trouble the
honorable senator from New Hampshire Mr. HALE has
graphically described before today certainly they
Ita
They have particular desire, sir, 10 grow into dstnc
ton All they have 10 do is upon the jury bench day
after day and listen TO long speeches and sometimes very
dsagreeabe ones 10 ell up al night, with very e ~
deed TO comfort them If the rules oil law strictly
forced for the purpose of deciding questions OF and
tuun between their fellow Citizens, for the purpose Of
rendering verdict between the government and some
private citizen. This is Il different matter, and they
ought 10 be well paid say again that in my opinion,
three dollars a day would not compensate Jutyman,
coming from his home and devong day after day 10
performing the functions OF that office.
Mr., BERRlEN, lin his seatl What is paid in the
| State courts in Mississippi
complaint amongst us for many years past that our
uymen have yet received enough TO actually cover
the expenses they compelled TO incur In the State IN
which live man a Jury man and live de.
Gently every juIyman should be expected 10 live, for
anything like three dollars day. They cannot go out
even, without asking leave as my friend from Massa
chuses Mr.. DAvIs1 states. was going 10 remark IN
relation To the argument OF the senator from Georgia MI
RERRIEsl in regard New Hampshire and other States
Why sir three dollars day may be too much Tor New
Hampshire juryman; three dollars day may than
cover the expenses Of luryman in New Hampshire,
Connecticut, Rhode Island, and other OF the old
States But, sir, il is not certainly the with some OF
the States OF the South that could name. The simple
question with is this, whether we would better
upon the side OF justice and Hberality or the
side of whether would be better to give TO
the jurymen OF New Hampshire and some other States,
similarly situated. little too much to give TO the iu
rymen of other States, my included little TO little,
great deal too little my friend Oh my right [Mr
DAVIS, OF Massschssetts says. For my own part, |
conceive II is duty 10 give 10 all those we employ in
any capacity whatever amount adequate 10 The ser
vices they perform, such will not subject them 10 pc
cunlay injury very anxious that the lurymen shall
do not approve of the principle which gives man money
in consideration OF rendering verdict with eleven other
men, IN complicated case, in relation TO which he could
not be able TO agree If you did not give him money.
Mr. HALE. tits not the first time the senator from
Georgia
Mr. GWlN. Will the senator give way a moment
want 10 oorroboraie what the from Mississippi
said from my own experience.
Mr. HALE. | have no doubt about it, Laughter j
none AT adj.
was going TO remark that il was not the first time the
senator from Georgia Mr. DAwsosl has referred to New
Hampshire, and in manner which would imply
that he had got something connected with the name,
history tradition OF that State which entitled him TO
use hat name in somewhat Of a tone OF contempt.
4 Mr. DAW SON. Not at all.
| Mr. HALE. Well, sir, care but little whether he
not at ALL whether he says quite the contrary
cannot 60 into the discussion oil that question now.
But as this is not the first time, the second Time
think that nspuaons Of this have come from the
senator from Georgia take 10 say that was born
and OF no community that Providence ever suffered 10
live the face OF the earth, large small in whose