Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-20

B.,o,red That cop, ii these resolutions b. sent
N onr delegates in Convention 10 DC lala esicse 'ho
same
~ D'''''A' DAVID NJ West, Chairman.
JOSEPH C. MooRy, Secretary, :a :.
| lai on the table.
! The motion was agreed to.
. TUE ONE HOUR RULE
NJ rISNEy offer the following resolution:
PlsoJrcj That when the debates upon the subject Of
a., b,ss re representation shall have concluded, one
member shall be permitted to speak more than one ho"f
= nny one time unless BY leave of the Convention
Mr. WISE, should ike to know what Is the mean,
ing OF that resolution wish my colleague lNr iisSL
- x,l,in il, desire to know il We are to have the
hour rule established here after the rst vote Is taSeh
NJ E1SSEY. No sir not until after the whole basis
| question Is disposed OF. ,,,n ,h .,b
Dir. WISE Is the rule to be applied 10 al o'"ef SUI
iectsl ,.,
Mr. WISE. Then I object. move to lay the re-
ou,ion on the table and OH that motion call Tie yeas
] and nays.
Tho and NAYS were ordered and the question be-
in taken there were yeas IL, nays - as follows
AYES Messrs Armstrong, Bland, Blue, Bowden,
Brown, Burgess Camden Caper'on carrie; Ca[ter "'
n,,ln,n Chiffon Cook Fisher, Floyd, Futz, Galv,
LAYS Hoge Jncob johnson knue, Letcher Lucas Mar
in uf Marshall Meredith Morris, Neeson, price Kan
,oIph Scott Of Fauquier Shelley Sloan Sh'h OF Juch-
On, Snodsrass, tephenson, Stewart Of Morsn stuart
d, Patrick, Summers. Tate, Van Wnkle, "h''e' wiley
| Williams of Fairfax and Wisc-l4
NoEs.-Me ,srs Ma .on Presidentl Anderson arthur
Ranks Barbour eale Bird Of Shenandoah. BoWlcs'
,raxon Byrd of Frederick Carter OF Russell Claiborne
Cooke, Conway Cox Davis, Edmunds Edwards finney'
flood, fulkerson Fuqua Garland VI uarne'!' Gooue'
!J.ll HILL ,anuey Jasper, Jones, kenney. hSor".
Leake Lyon Lionberger. Lynch, McComas. Martin OF
Henry. Miller Moore Newman, Pendleton, Petty Kid
lev Rves Saunders Scoggin Scott oil Caroline scott
Of Richmond Seymour, Smith oil Norfolk, .mith oil hinS
md Queen Smith of Greenbrier, Snowden Snuthai.
;tannrd, Taylor, Tre,lway Trigg Tuns Tnrnbll, Wal
ace Watts of Norfolk county, Watts OF Ronoke whit
le Williams of Shenandoah, Winsheld, Voolfolk. Nor.
,Lam and WySor-7u
So the motion to lay the resolution on the table was
not agreed Ia.
Mr. FINNEY. At the suggestions OF some friend, Of
thus
Hsorcd That no member be permitted o speak long
than one hour any TIM. upon any subject, ex-
ept the sube of the basis OF representation but bf
cav. of the Convention.
/ Mr. WISE. | object 10 any modification. came
acre expressly bound and pledged to oppose this one
n ur rule whenever it should bc proposed, upon any
uhiect whatever. | must say that am asonlshcd
nat this resolution should come from my colleague
e comes here opposed TO reform upon the subject Of
representation, but he comes here particularly re-
iorrer upon every other subject
Now opposition Ia reform i. an inert principle. Re-
.orm seiI is an active principle 1t has to overcome
,p,si,ion in this body and il requires debate. IL re-
lures debate 10 justify innovation upon established
,sons There questions besides the basis OF rep
rc>cniation that require more than one hours Discus
i'm | shall insist upon the right Of freedom nj
,pcech in this body. object 10 Ibis principle oil the
me hour r,ic first upon the ground that is restraint
anon the fire., dom n speech. ha c denied IN Con-
iess have denied everywhere the power any body
n this country 10 impose Restraint upon the freedom
debate 1t attacks the most precious and vita.
rivcsc Of the liberty of the people Of this country.
Anything that attacks the freedom of speech and DE-.
,ac doe, that am opposed 10 il in the second place.
lt,on the ground OF economy. know from experience
= Congress that when You have adopted the one hour
rule, instead Of allowing lni aud lair time lot debate
or the fall development OF the subject 1t only causes
he greater number OF PERSONS To speak: only causes
he same person to speak greater number Of times.
IN fact no time is saved.
have third objection 10 this hour rule, and 1t
: this: As radical 4 reforncr as am, there is one
Kind of locoocoism and ltycsm that oppose, aud 1t
IS that lcrcsin hat levels downwlrds And II there
$ any hing upon the face OF Gods earth that do.
erel downwars it i, the one hour rule. 1t was III
.ented By Congress, and appeal TO all gentlemen HrH
rho have been III Congress, 10 say whether an EGt
sustained in asserting that it invented hy ID"
ortv to suppress debate upon ccr;.'ln -nhj"c'. 1t
did time bat it had This effect: - rn .hc
iebacs OF the Congress Of In" Unite States, and to
IRE subjects here that the hi hticsl mind cannot grasp,
annot develop in one hour. have seen the abest
len in Congress, before they even through with
he exordun upon the subject OF The bank, or the sub
ect Of the tariff that required years OF study 10 COM
Jrelcnd, brought down by the rap oil the hammer
Inv body can get up aud make fifteen minutes, Il
aaf hour o. hour fourth OF July oratlcn or piece
Of defamation upon hose great subjects But TO go
INTO them thoroughly, 10 el"cldatc them requires time
nd debate. would no. give taree chews oil tobacco
.b,t,, ZION nj hat 'nei
men to one hour. You bring the that has son!a-
thing 10 say to the same level with the man that has
iothng TO say. do not place myself in the one cat
egory or the other. But do say llai if there l. any
gentleman upon tins floor that feels that he full Of any
subject. and wants time to develop it, he shall! haze
5 lar Is can give il 10 him. regard this rs the
most oduus tyranny that could be impose! by the ma
jority upon any body; piece Of tyranny that have
oeen always resisting, ant one that Will resist mil
the day OF my death.
Ii it would timc-if all these subjects had been
tebasd-il il were to he piled TO the basis question,
that after all the gentlemen had been heard upon
that Subject the lengthy debate should cease there
you'd be in il. But upon all these nihcr
great questions, except the question incidental the
executives upon the abolition Of the county courts:
upon the question Of an elective judiciary; the qu:s.
OF an elective executive upon the question o. he
limitation of internal improvements and many o.her
questions that just lmpor the basis cue son;
upon all these other great questions debate necessary
and essentials and yet VIC are to impose this Ie5.:ic
tlon. am almost inclined to say that il is tyranny
10 which can never be brought 10 submit
I Mr.. PRICE. 1t is not my purpose to discuss this
resolution but merely TO that the Convention ha.
adopted resolution that the vote upon re pending
question, in the Committee Of the Whole, shat! he
taken at - O'Clock to-day. 1t is nov half past 10
Ny friend from Harrison, Mr. CANpES) IS entitled o
the loor and is in the midst of an unfinished speech
# go discussion of the resolution now before
the Convention, he will have no time 10 conclude hi 5
speech. The time which can be allowed to him
Sill be shorter than would be necessary for him
present his views. Now must as, il my friend fro
Accomac DIR FISSEY, will consent, that the rtsso-
tuition may go upon the table ut present for il be
;:ken up al any other time. There is necessity for
acting upon il this morning. FOR it i, not 10 be applied
to the subject now under consideration in Committee
OF the Whole, but TO Q her subjects. 1t can up
any ether morning hope the Convention will show
the courtesy lay this resolution upon the table,
TO afford my friend from HARRISON (Mr. CANDIES an
opportunity, which, am surc all willing TO give
MIN. move. therefore, to lay the resolution upon
! the table.
Mr. FINNEY. l hope the gentleman will with
| draw the motion for moment.
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