Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-13

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mattcre I will state, for the information OF those
49, r NOT present last night, the facts of the case rs
understand them tu be. addressed the chair dis
tnctlv and in m audible tone OF voice before any other
gentleman who was struggling for It, 1T was perfectly
we'll understood between the gentleman from Richmond
Mr. .Sr,xx,np) and myself that we We're to contend
| fnr tho Annr and we stood with hands upon the
desk ready like two dogs for bound Laughter
II wns . fair contest have no complaint to make,
but entertain the conviction, That III INC race was
really in point OF fact, successful, ana thk IT not
amiss 10 ask M expression OF the committee upon the
srI;n,, ,vh.ther am not fairly entitled TO tie floor
conclude what have tn say, by again protesting that
hay. II, desire nor do entertain any such idea tina
there WAS ANYTHING umss upon the part OF my friend
from the CITY OF Richmond, Mr. SrASSMn) and surely
not so far as the motives OF our friend VINO occupied
tn. chair nj that time understand he neXperi
encrd in matters of this kind admit may be mis-
taken in nv recollection Of the facts may he mistaken
also in NV views of the parliamentary law. prcsnc the
proper course determine this matter is for the gentlemen
who's. opporunilics best for observation state
for The information OF members who present
ht wcr. not then the facts, i'll order that the com
mite. nay determine this question intelliyentlv and
fairly If it turns OH; that ain not entitled to the
floor will acqucsce without particle OF feeling ior
so help me God hav" had nonc and have none now,
However uuimnrtant it Is that should SPEAK this
time or ut ALL yet there is something i'll my nature
bcinr Scotch Irish in part, aughter which bids me
insist upon nv rights especially looking to the people
whom representative have most dc"otc'! love Of
what they term. i'll hoi'cly PHRASE Lair shake Laugh
teri That is all | ask.
The CHAIR. The Chair regrets that the present
incumbent was absent ut the time this matter tool;
place but liz will state the rule IL lie under, :nds it
Sy the parliamentary law, the gentleman who nu"es
that the committee rise Is entitled To tie floor 1t The
next mretir, of the COMMITTEE The Chair last cvciii.
awarded the RIGHT to the member from Richmond CIR
SrAySAnD) An appeal is taken from that decision b.
the llcnber from Jefferson DIR. HrSrEE,) and the qucs-
ton now before the committee is, shall the decision OF
the Chair stand Is the Judgment of the committee:
Mr. STANNARD. 1apprchend the difficulty in re-
gard to this subject MAJ DC obviatcd Ny friend the
gentleman who occupied the chair ycstcrda, is
abscnt from the hail, and am satisfied that he did
anticipate that this question would be brought up
ut this time AM perfectly satisfied III my OWL lnnd
that the Chair did correctly and properly assign the
floor at the time That gentleman is not here, and
10 not intend that am question with respect to III:
conduct in assigning the floor 10 shall he passed
upon now at all events, under these circumstances.
therefore resign the floor TO my friend FROM Tie count!
Of Jefferson iSr. lrSTER) trust that / may be al
lowed to say at hopcit will not be ;s!n. much
at the h:l,.s OF the committee under the peculiar cir
cumstilccs III the case, rs | I'm III condition which
renders il piIysicaiiy impossible for me I" speak this
evening that | may be allowed by general ;cquies
crucc the opportunity IT saviu. what deem il ~,
duty to sag upon this snljcct, and what nothing ba
an impcri"- Of duty would eonstr!n 10 -.y
upon Tomorrow. That rests entirely with the commit
tee. I rclinqui>h therefore, any claim hive to tn.
hoor-D"riccliy satisfied i'll my mind, that the dc
cison correct y made.
Mr.. HUNTER | am very much gra,icd at the re
suit which this matter has taE"n Stated Ia the
, mter, when | was up before, that w:,- actla!rt
wholly By SENSE of duty III briein. Til, qr.sl"i
before them
appreciate the consideration urged by my lricnc
from richmond Mr. SiASNAED) touching the prophet,
of determining this question in the aJsec. of tie zen
tl,nan who temporarily occupied the chair last evening,
would BE- wholly unwilling ~ have tli. matter defer
mined now. and am little surprised that the gentleman
is not here presume he is detained by unavoidable,
circumstance. announced suppose. in distinct ant
audible voice, list evening, ny purpose to appeal am
bring up the question this morning, for the comlntc,
then bcin, il stale Of confusion, .cp.ncd to be il
an unsuitable condition then for proper action upon
the subject. ] gratiicd, therefore that the mat
ter is disposed uf i'll tss Wa; and ] Withdraw Iii,
appeal matter of cuursr, tie difficulty j,
removed ] beg leave to say this-t!lank Goo
am blessed with unusual share oI physical en-
durtnce ard | can speak 1T any TIME | learn from
my friend from Richmond Mr. SrASNAgpJ that he
comes prepared with his papcrstlat his physical con-
don il such rs to render ii extremely desirable that
he should proceed mt this time | thrrctorc-if the
committee will permit me to do So doubtless they
will-Isk the gentleman from RichmuIld-wh whom il
has been my pleasure To maintain for nlly years past,
laions not ul MISUNDERSTANDING far practicable
but the most sincere aud mutual esteem, certainly oil
my par tlat he will allow me. as !; favor to Lin n,
he has Informed r that his condition is such n
to render il eXpciicrt that he should proceed to,lav
to lie floor with the appreciation OF the conlite
and permit him To go on with the understanding il it ic
the pleasure OF t!n committee. that meet Tonight
at half past O'Clock and give me that tag-cnd Of
the day for the few remarks which propose 10 make
This arrangement. will be perfectly agreeable me-.
AGREED agreed! agreedE' from all parts of the
hall
Mr. HUNTER And thus we will have accomplished
the thing desire to in this hal-tle reign of good
feeling. trust lie will have dccacv OF difficulty on
that subject now.
DIR. STEWART. Permit me TO make one remark
would be glad To do in justice to nv friend who
temporarily occupied the chair. addressed the com.
mittec from this part of the house. aud my friend from
jefferson tr. HrSTEE sitting immediately behind
me. and confident that far that goes he was
entitled to the floor, he addressed the committee frs;
But il is 10 fault of my friend who occupied the chair
Mir. FISSEr) FOR know, IL | paid particular att ell.
ton to it, his head was directed in another direction
and just he turned around in this direction the
voice of the gentleman from Riclmond IaIr. SrAyyAnp)
fell upon his ear and he perfectly Justified in
awarding him the floor under the circumstances.
never saw Il chairman iii committee make Il flr.r
decision under the circumstances than my friend from
Accomac Mr. FlSSEr) did. ain glad to See that the
difficulty is settled
Mr.. CAMDEN. do not rise to interfere with the
arrangement Of this matter between the gentleman
from Jefferson and the gentleman from Richmond but
wish it to be understood that arrangement Is to be
made By which my constituents shall he precuIed from
being heard upon this important question. Some of
my friends thought that was entitled 10 the floor but
was not disposed to contest the matter. On the CON
trary. am disposed to acquiesce in the arrangement;
but stated before this important question wish
no arrangement carried out, by which my constituents
shall be deprived OF their right to be heard upon this
| floor.
| The CHAIR. The Chair will remark TO the gentle
man from Harrison iAlr. CAMDEN that no arrangeS,ent
can be made upon the subject giving the member from
Jefferson CIR. HrSrER) the right to speak Whoever
addresses the Chair first will be entitled to the floor
Mr. MASON. an very happy 10 see the manner
in which this difficulty has been disposed Of but AS the
question has been raised here deem it not improper
10 make few suggestions for the consideration of
the Con ention, that should the difficulty occ, again
we may know what parliamentary rule the Convention
or the Committee Of the Whole will alopt. The
rule in the manual is, that il two or more rise to
speak nearly together the speaker determines who was
nrst up aud calls him by name whereupon he proceeds
unless he voluntarily sits down and gives way to the
other; bat etlmes the house does not acGcsce in
the speakers decision in which case the question is nut
which member is first up
For this lla;zell and other English authorities are
cited In the Senate of the United States thcy have
rule that the first member who addresses the Chair il
entitled ~ the floor When two members rise at the
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