Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-03-18

a :, hands 10 handle il. aithous" ,hem
nv Item frica1s from tho position 'na' ~; oecorv
IN Yesterday. vet tho position tea' ~ Inn. lint
r-ecudcs me from -earns them iIoEo III. pow
- wake acains, them have shown th'. ,na,icn
~ WIS entirely accidental; net oid"h'; and being
originally but an accidental thing ~ Now. hold
accidental they claim ii now a. ,;n,d either by
this =, political truth. that pow" f,.rwar,i. with
accident or oy flsh. ,ly entitled t. H. j. JUS. -
much usurpa,ion as il II had t'i ~, stand and al
Now his i, the position in wh''u iod- with u-urp-
Enough canno charge my 'as'''l ,h facts themselves
ing this power YET can chars 'h ' !; equally bad
charp, them with doing that when Jd no, expect
e;i'se LIN ~ Ibe Committee tina, .' .'t i
$50 ,L.,r attention so long, anu " 'n , ,l,r,ant
,,os ,nr;,ty for me to stop before osr nv r
or the LEI, uueasincsa. | 'Iai' ''''
marks. -.u -, on 90 on.
~, Ei11 EFRSON will notice a le" loniii ~
that have been made By gentlemen ,l' roII from nv
mo and first will notice re',,aIA .,'1 ~ a.,erday
friend from Southampton MF' np ,naro an slaves
nc nv. IIephany and the valley pui to9e'"
IMAM an ''o ~, Erect number Of slaves there are
about 81 600. ,,rn. viii ne,,ni, me
Mr I'll kERsON | was going to reply 10 4 ~ :,
"a. - do yesterday in relation To the amount 81
,na ;J on slaves in your district as con'Paleu wiz
trans Allegheny, and you gave the NUMBER VI ="
| 81, 600. ..h;oh 7 made was
NJ
10, ,h district from which come paid save t'A y.
&c. and that Allegheny paid save aaN u
:. a0l 6I' and the valley s6S6G.24 IN connee',o"
with this exhibit went to sho" that 'he siA eon'.
ties from which come paid larger Save 'H an, "a',
Maid by The entire trans Aegany Aud WIN NO" auu
f. ,ii connection tina, the district from which my l;e
from Mccklenburs comes pays larger slave TAX IMAM
the entire valley ,,o,,,,
Mr.. FrLKERSON. understand the gentleman
now and understood him yesterday, 10 eau ". r..
80
his district paid more slave tax than all Inc trans ~
rhany country Now, will the gentleman Pern'' ~.
10 ask him the question, whether because ms
paws more slave tax than all the trans-Alesna. W.
try he desires they should have greater ~ WV
sl,,ure than all tho trans leghany country
Mr. RIDLEY If the gentleman desires al ~,
most cheerfly respond TO the interrogatory
cd bv the gentleman and am pleased s',a ''o Ft'
tleman has afforded the opportunity OF DONG - ~"
a,much rs mus; have been apparent I" al no clu
rae on Yesterday that my physical indlsposi", wa
such that did not fully illustrate the views Which
Intended to present in that connection. ntcaoed 10
show the gentleman not that desired on that ac-
count greater representation but in'cnncu 10 nave
proceeded with the comparison that set out #ih ne-
tween my district and other portions oi The state IN
tended to have shown that two counties oil my dS'c''
viz Sussex and Grccnsyille, pay not oay s'c ID y
ht an arrrecae TAX Of Si9.5 according 10 your ap-
por,ioumcn Of Representations will be entitled To bal
one delicate on the floor Of the house oil ceicgates'
while the co,ly of Carroll paving oEiy s'4+ Oh A' !"
the aggregate about seventh As much, VIII he en-
titled 10 the same representation that these TWO couh-
tics will have intended To have gone further, II the
gentleman will indulge me, and To have shown mar inc
countie, OF Mercer and Monroe paying tax oil s4o-i'
les, by 1851 than is paid by Gieensvle and SUSSEX
would be entitled 10 two representatives according ~
YOUR apportionment while those Two counties would
hay, been entitled 10 but one intended To have shown
also that the counties Of Amelia and Nottoway paSl,,
in Inc aggregate tax OF S6,144, Is entitled 10 no NOR
representation than the counties o Doddrige ana Riice
paving but Sl,'10, or only about one siN'h I'll tno
amount paid b., Amelia alone. Logan and Boone Fayas
but abou, 1925 OF one seventh o! The amount PAID by
Nottoway and Amelia, is entitled 10 the same repre-
sentation as those two counties peg PARDON vi ."e
gentleman for interruptirg him, and would state 'hal
u.y object in nsutns this comparlson Al the srn!lc
man will comprehend view was to snow that thls
protection which had been promised by inc vallcS IN
consequence OF the large number OF slaves hed there'
aud the slave interest existing there, could not DC ir
nished-at least not adequately.
Sr FrLkERSON. | had put simple and direct
question 10 ms friend and had hoped 10 have received
simple and direct answer but have been most eyre
liou.y mistaken. lie speaks Of the inequality III tae
details Of our plan. Well We acknowledge that there
ma be an inequality and tina, there will be perhaps IN
all time 10 come M inequality il carrying out m DC
tails but as said On YESTERDAY however nos'loS III
NAV be 10 square our details with the principle II does
not in the least affect the principle itself That thn
to ts sufficient TO that part Of the remarks
which tho gentleman has seen proper 10 advance mere
But should like 10 have answer 10 the question 'aa.
nut h him Now, understand the gentleman nIid
hose advocating his eide Of the question 10 make
ruling principle in matters Of government 'hat repre-
seu,aon and taxation should correspond. Or III Other
words thu: Your legislature should be based upon pop
laon and taxation. New. taking that lew 81 .heir
own statement OF the put the -mpir an direct
question 10 tin gentleman il e intended b, ;is ie'hi n
20 carry his principle out, and had hoped 10 base re-
cevei from him direct answer Ia that question. Now,
# that is your principle ask YOU representation l.
10 be commensurate with the taxaoni ! should k"
tao gentleman 10 answer the question put TO HIM
shcud like him 10 FAY whether ne would carr o,a
The principle ~ no; and il he would, whether he would
ask or liz district representation IN the eyiSi"
tc than h. would give the entire trans Allegheny
country and whether he would as: far ia" M'ck!"n'
burg district representation III the Legislature 'h;i
h., would ..sr L. the vale; country!
Mr. RIDLEY. Rus; b" peculiarly unfortunate n
nv mode Of expression. Thought gave direct an
syor 20 the gentleman. II liz Ind honorel me with LIS
attention on Yesterday lac would have foni that nc
principle for which contend is iha, contained ~ the
proposition submitted .; way "' "'n"ndn'it " tn,
Gentleman from Fauq aier. lie would have learned that
We were for apportioning representation upon TIE com
bnal basis Of population and taxation. The gentleman
If he had understood me- certainly could have attached
tn c ~ desire 10 base representation upon the Save
tox. An! II lie had given hi, attention on yesterday
h.. woal,. have found that | referred I" the lax OF
slave. 10: in connection with the apposonncnt 81 po-
.i,ca powsr a. The State. b, simply III reference I" e
y.w presented By the gentleman from Jefferson. lS'r
Irc,- few days agoin which that gentleman a-eiil-
the ground that tue tide water district Of the STATE
h. ni,ing with the slave t.ro-, Of the valley would
secure Gdeq protection against tax upon from
the west alluded TO the slave tax not in any connec.
ton With the apportionmeat OF tie politics. power Oh
The state bat -in}ly in connection with the Idea TINT
we wc. receive protection at the hands {" the valley
because of the number .! slaves that were owned there
Nj FuLkERSoN. The gentleman on yesterday, ~
w.. ., today must be peculiarly unfortunate in the
MANNER that he exprcsse, himself OF must bs exceed
iusly dull If apprehension. Perhal, tie latter Is the
,ri.t state ol the case. Now understood him in re-
ferrng thi, subject To be speaking Of tie legislative
mower Of the State and .; the two sources whence this
power wa- u b. drawn and understood him 10 base
portion of this legislative power upon the slave tax OF
ia. State aud understood him to refer 10 this eiav"
lax u, illustrate the position that he had taken. aud
Jo no, think that could have misunderstood him.
w; mention one ial, ~hic the gentleman himself can
no d.Iy that those With whom 10 acts acknowledge on
All occasions tina, the slave property i the OIL
l;.,inc, and spcc:ic tax the, divides 'ac different
,nns Of this State Tar As the question Of taxation J.
concerned understood him 10 sny. - the t-h!es will
how tia. the tax on all other property is h"m"srn'
aus. ina, i, is scattered broadcast Throughout, u,
,en,,h aad feea,i,;l oil the Commonwealth: and 'h-'
the only GROUND upon which they ask Tor this p't'ca
pw.r !, based upon this Save population which Is no
somo..ucous bu, peculiar and coafp"d 10 plr;I'"a
district, and for Inc protection CT thst property, an'
al they ask for this lcgiSiUl.v,