Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-30

has been eaiieI: bsi;eve that time enough has
hoan SLOWED for dscussion-as much time % ean
5nce any eood-beievng thus W sou.a
1s,ol,tion which was submitted TWO OF
20 bonsd Il would have been adopted wlthout OPP
o;.;o offered it under circumstances which must
ss raI;eved me from suspicion that was attempting
- se western members. / offered it at time %htn
western member had the floor gentleman VINO
the western forces and gentleman after 20
venture to saw the west would be as VIKING ~ ,rs
this question as after the speech OF any onSf
in the State of Virginia. The resolution oG hs "a
.arahs t;ma about the time heidi occupy IN hs Re
marks From the remarks of the gen.ienI ~; a IN.
son (Mr F1sHka3 should have supposed .hs - ond
.IJ e. s,or tbs mouths Of western gentlemen anu
arn,;, sastern gentlemen to discuss az muen 40 the
nleased: but submit to this BODY that' uuu.: S0
cumstances which I presented TINS resoin1io upG ::
Friday, and renewed it again upon y. Iao
who intended to reply instead OF beng gag upon "es
t.n noonbers For myself am satisfied that this de-
bsta ouaht to be closed and believe large majority
of the people in the east and many IN the west as wen
ss in the east will say it ought TO be ciosd
All desire is that if the Convention do not desire 70
adopt the resolution that the vote shall be
and yeas 60 to the country that those VINO
choose may take the responsibility call TOR the yeas
and nays upon the notion
The yeas and nays We're ordered. .,ost.
The question then being taken, on the motio
pons indefinitely there were yeas 3D. nays 'o' 40
Tr,s-Messrs. Anderson, Armstrong, Bland, Blue
Bolts, Bovden, Camden Carhie carter oi E T.al
chapn sn, Cook Ss Eef Esya Hog Jacob
Sennev Kilgore, Knote, Lionberger, Lucas, NC
csmont McComas, Martin Of Marshall, Miller
Moore Neeson, Newman, Pendleton, Price, Seymour
Shefey, Smith of Jackson Smith Of Greenorer onoo'
grass Stewart of Morgan, Stuart OF Patrick Summers
Tate, Trgg, Van Wrinkle, Wiley Williams OF que
pandoah, Wise, Wysor-50. p,,
NAYs-Messrs Mason (Presldent) Arthuf' pa a1i.
Barbour Beale, Bowles Braxton Chambers o1tt sI
Claiborne. Cooke, Edmunds, Edwards fimey' Fiooo'
Garland Goode Hall Hill Hopkia % sSnn Msin
Of Henry Petty Randolph Ridley, Rves Scosgln Scott
Of Caroline Scott of Fauquier, She'll Smith Of Norfolk
county smith of King and Queen, Southall Straughan
Tavlor Tredway, Tunis, Tmnbull, Wallace, Watts Of
Norfolk county, Wingfed, Voolfolk, Worsham-So.
So the motion was not agreed to. ;,
Mr. BYRD of Frederick, when his name was callea,
sa;d As do not wish to again interrupt the call OF
the roll Iwish to state that have paired on wltn the
gentleman from Alexandria, mir. SSowDRS,) until ne
comes back.
Mr. BYRp was accordingly excused. ;, ;,
NJ ,c.preToy who had paired off with Mr.
c..s..n. M CpAaBl1ss with Mr. SMITH, OF hanawha :
Mr. MI r, IL GARNET with Mr.. FAULKNER MI. W.
GARNET with Mr. STEPHENSON Mr: JOHNSON VIII III ni
CHAapERs; Mr. LErcHER with Mr. FCeuA; MI. " Al!S
of Roanoke, with Mr.. PURKISs, and Dir. MORRIS Win
Mr. WHITE were excused from voting. ,
~ LYONS, when Mr. SrANARDs name WAS cauea,
.,ad that he had been requested by his colleague 10
state that be- (Mr STAsARD was prevented from oehg
IN attendance to day on account OF lndisposltion.
M. ouestion was then taken on the motion OF Mr.
MARTIN of Henry, to take up the resoiueion anu
were yeas SO, nays 50, as foiio~s'
vr.s-Massrs Mason, (Presideut,) Arthur Banks,
R,rbopr Beale Bowles. Braxton, Chambers Cniton'
claiborne, Cooke, Edmunds Edwards, Finney' floou'
Garland, Goode Hall, HILL Hopkins Janney' Jasper,
Iones' Isake Lyon, Lynch, Lyons. McCandish Martin
Of Hsnrv PETTY, Rando ph Ridley Rves Scoggn. Scott
of Caroine Scott of Fauquer. She'll Smith OF Norfolk
county smith of King and Queen Southal, Straughan
Tsvlor Tredway Tunis, Turnbull, Wallace, watts OF
Norfolk county, Wing6eld, Voolfolk, Worsham- o.
W. Ms.a-Messrs. Anderson, Armstrong Bland. Blue.
pot,. Rovden, Camden, Carlile, Carter of Russell,
G U Cooke, Ferguson Fisher, Floyd, Fulkerson
Suit. Galley, Hays, Hoge Hunter, jacob, henney'
Eiloore Knote, Lionberger. Lucas NicoaInah', NcCo
Martin of Marshall, Miller, Moore, Neeson. New
a0 Psndieton Price Seymour, Shelley, Smith OF Jack
con- smith of Greenbrier Snodgrass Stewart OF Nor
Ion stuart of Patrick, Summers, Tate, Irlgg, Van
Wrinkle, WILEY, Williams of Shenandoah Wise, Wy
sor-o0.
go the motion was not agreed to.
TIE BASIS OF REPRESENTATION.
,r,s Convention then resumed the consideration, in
conr,ttee of the Whole, (hr. MILLER IN the chair
~ the report Of the Committee on uie OASIS anu aP
nortionment of representation.
IT, CHAIR stated the question to be upon the
amendment of Mr.. BRALs.
~ LYONS. l am requested by my friend and col,
-, mr. 'srASARp) to say that he 10 so lndlsposed
SSov az TO be unable to leave his house In conse-
nce thereof he will not occupy the moor TINS morn'
ing
Mr.. WISE wanted on saturdayIsnd am very
,,,,oh d;sncned to do what wished to do then
49, -lv for n very short time, to some few remarks OF
~ asntIemsn from Fauquier (AIr. Scorr) That gen
.is,esn On saturday last boasted that the Pedmon-
+,sa are full grown men, ana competent 10 manage
+hs;r own affairs And he inquired OF me- very poteo-
rhs,h,r the 1de-wate people were infants OF ten
T. 80 ~ whether they SO old as to have become
sa.;tns and not able to manage their own concerns
w ao took another position. He asked the question:
how does Underwater get the control by giving up all
-owar TO the westa Why not retain lie own power,
"a carry out It's own designs and policy When the
nnu src;tement was upon ME, should have very
81 dos;r.d to have replied to the gentleman from
Ta,nnisr (Mr. Scorr) in the same spirit IN which ne
rose to make his remarks: Co..,
q" and Boone CHR FERGusoS,) and somewhat in a
h;oh tone of authority standing over the gentle.
10 undertook to take his morals to task IN regard
-. re- rsmarks he, (Mr FERGrsoS had Just addressed
~ the Committee And then after ne naa aone WIN
70 ~. r,lean from Logan and Boone, (alr FERGusoM
tue 70 me and took me hand for attempting, a.
~ 70 Mace Tde-water under the pupllage OF the
ne Allegheny do not wish to place Underwater,
',nJor the pupilage of trans Allegheny. what pro-
$50 70 do with poor old llde-"ater IS tls: II Tue
pabo,s between the gentleman from Fauqmer and the
from Logon and Boone does not open the eyes
81 Tde-water, God alone knows what will If trans
A,lesh,ny is disposed to act towards Underwater as
Piedmont as acted thus far it may be that 1t Is only
dispute betw.an Piedmont and Allegheny which
sbal pluck the from Underwater; which shall tax
her the most, and Appropriate the most OF her money
for works that have no fruion for her either now or
~ env time to come. say then that if it is to be
ntsst between Allegheny aud Piedmont. as to
h;c shall appropriate the resources and enjoy the
Of Underwater, Ihave nothing to say, rather
70 AID ito what have said, in contendins for
seualty of all sections, and all persons in the
commonwealth. r. ,.,...
Rnt il comes with worse grace for the gentleman
from Piedmont, (Mr. ScorT) to ask nue. this question:
than it would from any other gentleman upon tins
Soor The question propounded by the gentleman
from Piedmont. (Mr. Scorr, is only another illustra
ton added to the myriads of instances which history
rscords to show how reluctant those are who enjoy
,owsr to surrender it. Instead Of the proehein amy of
Ed.water now seeking to place her under the pupil
noe of Allegheny, the real effort have made here
~ rho friend of Underwater is to take her from the
hardship and puplage of Piedmont. If Piedmont was
of The same sentiment as Tide water, If Piedmont
contended for the same policy that Underwater does if
Piedmont was really united in the same view OF her
own interest with Underwater the gentleman might
a., n