Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-06-20
he CHAIR. That is what the Chair has announced

The CHAIR That is what the Chair has announce
in The House. =: :. ......-s-......
Mr Bolts. To strike out proposition Al
T1r CHAIR. The Chair has announced to the gen
tir m HeRrico that there still remains OF the com
rr"lc proposition the first section and that blank a
been created BY striking ont the balance Of it, Now
does the gentleman move strike out that first
ton ad substitute his proposition: There is SO nacl
confusion tie Committee that is impossible for th
Chair to hear anything. Every gentleman seems t.
be speaking Mt The same time. = - g
III. Bolts. It is just rs difficult 10 hear what thu
Chair says Ny desire is to move. the proposition
have submitted in competition with propagation "a
Mr.. Use, / would suggest to the gentleman from
H,nrlco that he woald simply moTe.to strike out wh
is LIFT CT tho compromise Then he get at his pr"
position. There is section left of the compromise
proposition that the legislature shall be formed of two
distinct branches. &c.-a mere mstter ot torn i
must be stricken out unless your proposition Stands
nn amendment TO an amendment.
MIR. BOTIS. lam willing to adopt that section.
offer oil Of mine except the FIRST branch of it,.
The CHAIR The parliamentary form Is to strike out
what remains of the compromise proposition end in
sert yours.
Mr.. FERGUSON. Suppose that there is no propo.
stion to ell the blank what is the question before the
House.
The CHAIR. There is one single section in coupe
ton with'"A."
Mr. FERGUSON. a motion has been made to strike
out all of A. except the last section and insert the cont
promise proposition. The motion has been made and
prevailed to strike all but the first section III the
compromise. II nothing further is moved ia the next
question t" strike out all Of except the Inst section
and insert the first section. II division is called is not
then the question upon striking all Of T.,
Mr. SAUNDERS. With the permission of the Con-
vention. will make one remark which escaped nv
mind when1 was up before meant to state that
the scheme of compromise that he'd proposed would
be 50 arranged as to give Senate to the east Of which
they should have twenty eight, while the west would
have twenty-five.
Mr.. HOPKINS. There is no difficulty whatever in
relation to the mode Of proceeding in regard to this
matter before tllccomitee they will only listen to the
state Of the question before s The committee has agr
to strike ou all of the compromise report except tie
first section, which still. remains part of the compromise
report That section corresponds almost in words with
the first section Of the compromise offered by the gen.
tleman from Iienrico, OR. BoTrs) And that gentle
man has nothing to do but to strike out the first section
of his compromise and then move insert the balance
Compromise Committee. Presented in that form it is
strictly in accordance with parliamentary usage.
The CHAIR. That is exactly what the Chair has
said halfa dozen times. Iaughter
3lr. Bolts. I am perfectly Indifferent as To- the
parliamentary mode by which this question should be
willing to leave it to the parlamentarans Of the House
10 decide what that would be. But am embarrassed by
what is entirely novel proceeding As long
have been ina legislative body, and that has been
twenty wears, have naver known questions taken
thew have been taken here by striking out propositions
which have never been inserted. The old fashioned
mode of amending an amendment have understood.
but this novel mode Of proceeding, Of striking out hat
has never been inserted has embarrassed ME from thu
now ask the parliamcatariuns OF
this House. who understand this striking out what never
has been Inserted 10 take up this question and do with it
so that there may be n fair test. - IS,
Mr.. WISE. If the gentleman moves to amend this
and is agreed TO- the question will then
come upon the amending proposition Ably the amend
mcnt rs amended.
Mr: Bolts Very we'll, will leave it to my friend
from Acconac, (Mr. WISE and the Chair to decide.
Laughter
The CHAIR The Chair has decided the question
half dozen times But gentlemen do not seem to be
satisfied with the decision. The Chair will again an
the state Of the question. There Is remaining
Of the compromise proposition the first section Now
the Chair understands that the gentleman from icnrico
Mr.. BorTs has moved to strike out that section and
insert his proposition.
Mr. BOLTS. Nosr. That first section is the same In
substan rs mine, and propose to let it remain.
The CHAIR Then the gentleman moves to fill up
the blank with his proposition except the first section
Mr.. Bolts Suppose l withdraw my proposition
The CHAIR. The proposition will then be, upon
striking oil OF y but The last Section and when
that s done the question will upon reporting the
whole matter to the Convention.
Mr. Bolts That is what understood in the first
instance iii the absence of my proposition the lues
zion will b. upon striking out a. not add to that
question proposition to insert my proposition III
lieu of what shall be stricken outs And If 5" will
not the proposition to strike out 4 and insert my pro
position be divisible question,
The CHAIR. The only remaining portion of the
report is the first section That is al thai
,nIc in finn a.
Mr. BOTIS Can the gentleman from Henry, INT.
MARTIN, withdraw that section part of the com.
promise
The CHAIR The Committee having acted upon
hat proposition, it cannot now he withdrawn nj III"
will of the mover.
Mr.. WISE. There is no difficulty, if the gentleman
rom Henrico tAIr BoTrs) will understand il. AS the
proposition stands is primary. and the question
: shall be amended by striking out all hut the last
section and inserting what remains of the compromise
proposition. which is "a follows:
THE legislature shall be formed Of two distinct
branches which together shall be complete
.ud shall be called the General Assembly OF Virginia
Tint is the question now. And all that is needed tc
De done is for the gentleman from Henrco MI BoTrs
% to attach any thing he peases to what remain,
If the compromise measure IF he chooses to nment
Vhat remains OF the compromise measure ny ""'iie
my thing to it he cnn do so.
Mr.. BOTT'S beg leave to state that the difficulty
. ON account of those who are around me" Some cry
yes and some cry no. Now, want Tire Question
y bc 90 TINT every man can understand it aiike nc
,o care how the question is put so that er cry one I'M
lerstands it alike.
Mr.. WISE II nv friend will allow me. l. will make
motion that will clear the way. move to strike ont
what remains of the compromise proposition.
Mr.. FLOYD Understand that when We cna 'mencet
,pon this question the proposition was to strike out
proposition \ and insert the compromise prop ostlon
motion was then made to strike out NIL OF the com
promise measure except the first section, which ot"
vas carried How is thequeston then eftf 1t - nPo
he striki ~ out and inserting the compromise -"Pos
ion as it Is amended and division being ensfsi eit
question is shall 4 now be stricken ont
The CHAIR A motion has been made by tAe gen
leman from Accomac (Mr. WlsE.l to strike out VIVA
left of the compromise report. which s anost II
crms the same as the same section in proposition A
md clears away the report entirely.
Mr.. FLOYD But it s not in fact part Of A .Ih'
ucson rs LETT after the motion to- strike out the car
,romse measure WAS carried Ia shall be stricken a
md what remains Of the compromise be inserted:
Mr. WISE. understood that perfectly well when !
made the motion to strike out. But 20 enable the gen
lcnan from Heurco (Mr. Borrsl to bring his PROPOSE
ion directly in competition with proposition A, you
must first yet clear of what is left Of the coprdm use
Mr.. DENEALE | would .ask if it is not perfect y
competent for the gentleman rora IenrSco Mr. BoT1s
offer his proposition substitute for both PROPOSE
ion A and the compromised
The CHAIR The Chair understands that it Is not;
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