Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-04-04

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'"nnced ly himself has declared That property is bu
Il part ot the constituency -. representation "" "cr'
I" bd n this structure "f government, tcc"!'"c;li.
That property Is Int pu Of the co.-tltucnc" Il req
rescntatiun
Mr.. WISE do not think used that expression.
Mr.. SoUriIALL. Ny notes iu!,rln NE ;a' YOU lid
However, tit" gentleman can correct me-, T.: crii":n:
have 10 desire ~ lul+rrpr"scrl HIM
SIR WISE. thought laid it lown hro,,' enough.
Mr. SOuT!lALL. | Ito not want it l.:":.!rr than,
that.
Mr. WISE What I laid down will repeat Property
is represented and is subject Of rc|rc.cnt; r, l:t pro
prtty l. not cntle,l t" H.. representative" Wi.,:
mean i iii; the cunvrnti'al or: ir pa.i,i II
ar" the representatives, "f property. ih; ,,,c Ike
constituents, and nothing IN The physical l:u-,!ri c;n
II" Other han sat Isci o representation an that, nJIl
HAT which is in the moral Kingdom governed b. rlrc
moral Law and operating; upon rc',-n, c.'ric,t. 'nI
ia" human will, can be properly representative, Ani
you may combine pr"prr:; with men yci r!ra>n ',
"a" have NJ" The nnip"e'il r'%"r If Cd 10 max" il
representative. iun may represent y"'ir lc-r"
v"r horse, ""ur mule bat YOU .:.hw either
with rc:t>,I Conscience "r ir"c will. ,ali nero bat
Il" Iil wish Ia be trapped il, I:ngua.c
Air. sou llIALl. trust ] haze ,cs:rc "a -,c. ~
he INSTRUMENTAL in tr#ppn-, the Gentleman any
els. in language.
Mr. WISE. usr'I that ianglaco in reference to ir
r..rn for til" negro IS slave here. and rn d"nl".
human will IL this community, deny his capacity !" he
representative" All =; these can be subject 10 repre-.
scn'ation. hu cannot b" representatives either H. them
seize. nr l,r others.
Mr. SUitTltALI. The rntlcmanca,no; r.,.,p" from
the difficulty, Ingenious IL he !: While h" mn'v u"
haze the lives Of certain animal ct wl.rE We ia:"
heard lie certainly possesses ia agility /" remarkable
degree Tor throw him You may he i $"rc /" eva"
d"wn on his feet Laughter.
y" WISE fall fair IN that.
Mr.. SOl1'IlAI.L. hope III. gc:.!Icmln wi! fn
in other va:. lrcaii! Thought nirr:r;' ir'"'c
.
gentleman from Grccnbricr addressed the r'rn:'"c,
when lr sad our should he: made 10 ,ii:,r w h,
aiHiIcd claims Of uur western FRIENDS. Tie c";.:"~
,iIracc p">.ibi: has ccs that my bearing ~ '"c!! "
that OF others, has hcc Affected l;H. Il have hear!
Alright. The gentleman, explanation CONS precise! t"
&c thing. There i escape tIo:i II. '!'r,s Tie
gentleman ir,! turns hi, back upon i. To what doc
hi> explanation iillrr from what ,Hir"S" am under
>i,i was hi r,t poSiii"t< Wiz >il.p. III HIS ;hr
ir gentleman proposition or principle ';t' no; twcr
dlrlmn. bui that was lmcr"c,!cr. ..i'-h:c". The
.c.r the gentleman SAYS, moi the representatives -
s,y l. and hc shall Eoi be- PI,irr!y--t,c hp",r, aHd
the negro property. owned IN the gentleman Nv
myself. told: shall cot BE- the representative. but
il shall b. represented. Property says the gentleman. =
not part OF the constituency 0 snta"r. putillH
it is the subject represented Now. II am 20, more OBJ
ts.c if my mind is not brsct with darkness than
suppose i, hr think can satisfy the pprahic gcnt!
that hi, position explained ard now understood
brings him tll, conclusion for which content. |
k.!OU that he ana lal Wherever
Stands scifronvctcd he wI irhrkl, admit IL. and
ac aud adopt the original proposition !. 1t farsi, Sup
posed he had laid down. He camnot. think. c,cnpc
from il; unless, before said irc .ur> ii, back up!
IT.
Mr.. WISE will toe the mark.
Mr. SOUTiALL. The gentleman tells u, that he
did no, say that property constituency Of repre-
scataliOn, and am perfectly satisfied, u, IT, dscuim,
it, that such not his words. But does Ii. not and
has he not, proclaimed thsm in substance TX" gen
ticna that negro horse. any Other proper
tv animate or imanlma". cannot by les than s.n"
supernatural power. be made preventative but .ha, II
i, II b. represented. We'll. sc. am |. concadag
for any more DO you not make il constituency Of
representation if you represent il.
Mr.. WISE. No, sir
Mr.. SOGTHALL. The gentleman shake his head!
According 10 the principle for which sc Ccncrd, il:
YOU combine property and numbers, il you make them
Inc two great elements upon which yo'r Ic alyc de-
par!mct of government Is 10 be erected il they are 10
be the right and the left hand pillars o that depart.
meai. ask the gentleman III all candor-h"c uisc what Is
the USE OF fighting shadows. or dspung about words.
when We here cndcarorlng 10 get the substance
of things-I ask, what is there in human language that
can more emphaticav, and fully, and distinct: sls-
tain the proposition which advocate than the afgt-
ment he has submitted: There can. [ h'mbl.
conceive b. nothing unless language. s was once said
was given 10 rather to disguise than express our
thoughts use to which the gentleman is Incapable Of
putting it, Docs not the declaration, tia; in I'll go,
crncmts property must be represented. admit the pri-
cipIc that a combination Of property and number, i, the
true basis Of government The gentleman !akcs hi,
head: see have not convinced him.
Mr. WISE I Will not interrupt the gentleman
witl,o his consent though he seems to be calling
Mr.. souTHALL was not calling on the gentle.
man. still am ready 10 yield the floor.
Mr. WISE will only say to the gentleman ;!n.
when he tells me that we are 10 combine" rr"Pert and
n.yc people and property, and TO make o." The right
h,uJ and the other the either the icf h,nd par o! go
.rr,,.rut and II,us make them bnl! iitIcns o
representations that il does no! make III: ur either
nrner ur right! The very question here Is. a'Icther
tI,iI make one the right hand, ad the other the left
hand pillar OF the government Now, the gentleman
and m;self may differ about what constitutes cnrs-
r,ncy [ do not consider either negroes. horses. Or
rows \. inv constituents, Why, when 20 ho;le from
here do not say to tic COW, con.icr cos. cn,,.!d-
err am not permitted hy the law u {, hrc. IL
Cui;c and say, :. consider, Cu!icc, cnisi' J.. !" u,
coast it,,c,lt. those who constitute" ~" here rcpGc
.,,latiYc and how do they constitute me ., human
r,asau, hv human conscience. and Ia hulaau VIII
rhnc beings who 10y law allowed to exercise The
moral Faculties, constitute me here their p:escnta
tive l'ulirc nor the cow can. al ALL constitute he.
SIR SOuTIItLL. The scntiemansays ! Rave failed
to convince him. and whilst he tells yuu that .Cut;-c
AMI the cow fully represented ,y ilc,r owners.
he saws that do no, understand what he Inclns b: the
constituency OF property. Well, confess do r"r
,;!crslaud the gentleman, after his several expIH..
inc int'lIctt tlhdeTstaIr IliI " t
means not that CuTce and the cowarc 10 be represented.
Now rio,i.l the gentleman would not >iY CONSIDER
COW and ol. consider, Cu'tcc, yet hr wral tell
the master Of Cunee and the COW 10 ..roGsl.r. -
Mr.. WISE. That is it.
Mr. SOUTIIALL. Well that is exactly what We
arc battlciu, for We want to know how cri!ec AID
the COW are To be disposed of. aud what the 2catcm
means to do with them. That our objcc. rs s"h-
tcma! if understand Him. says at Il TIC riIta;S
10 which | have alluded, constitute The columns, oIa
the ualy columns, that sustain government. tltn lie 1
with me.
Mr. WISE | do not understand the question.
Mr. SOUTHALL. | understood the gentleman t.
say that if he thought with that these were tho
two umns. property and persons SUSTAINING i:i ta''"lt
of government then tc would think Is think IN rcorc
to it.
Mr WISE see that the gentleman has no. cXrct,
comprchen;tei me. will not 50 one nc' N ;'gcceiii=
vii! til. ,.ncman, that becau:e tbs master ct cn:e,
and The cow owns CufTee and the COW that l.: Ia; III
right to be regarded oil an: greater weight III t',
government than ans other voter viii not agree tia.
I,ui.c and the COW shall Only =" co!sl.;cd. tur
consider in the matter.
Mr. SOUrHALL ! bslic"s the gentleman anl my.
sef had better shake hands and agre" 10 disagree W
I,I he running in circle for the balance OF the day
and shall proceed with NJ: argument with al c'n''
uant speed as find ms strength already lAlli'iS me-
We have been tod rs gentlemen IN th's debate re
living IN the bill Of rights That the portions :" wic
.sainal their prctsn-iois upon which they crec thea"
seIves and from which they make their deductions t: