Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-03-11

adjourn.
The motion was agreed to--a count being lnd-ayes
40, noes 43.
And then the Convention adjourned until 10 O'Clock
tomorrow morning.
THURSDAY, February q, 1851.
III. Convention met pursuant TO adjournment.
PRAYER by the Rev. Dr. LEE of the Methodist church
The journal Of the preceding day was read and mp
proved.
TIE HoUR MEETING.
The PRESIDENT stated the first business in "der
10 be the question the resolution OF Mr. STEWART
of MORGAN, changing the hour of meeting from 10 to
II o'clock pending when the Convention adjourned
Mr.. II GARRETT. l move to lay the r'so'u,
ton on the table and that motion ask the yeas and
nays .,o-.l
Tho call had been concluded. and before The result
was announced
Mr. CONWAY moved that the absentecs he called
and allowed to vote.
!, was rejected and 50 the absentees allowed
20 vote
The result being announced there were yeas l6,
NAYS A. mo Quoruin) M follows:
TE,s-Messrs Anderson Carter of Russell, Cook Full
kerson. Fuoua NJ Garrett Hall, kenney kilyore, Mar
rim Of Marshall Moncure, Pendletou, Sloan Saith OF
Jackson Straughan. Trigg-l6. !,
NAYs-Messrs. John Y. Mason, (Prest) Armstrong
Chiffon. Conway Edmunds, Edwards. Fisher. NJ Il; Ii
(arnett Goode Hoge. Hunter Janney. Lcake. Lctcher
Lucas, McCamant. McCandlish, McCamas, Martin OF
Henry Meredith Miller Neeson Ridley, Scott of Caro-
line, Scott Of Fauquer, Seymour Smith OF Norfolk
county Snodgrass, Southall Stewart of Morgan, Stew
art of Patrick, Tredway, Van Wrinkle Wallace White
White. Wiley, Wise-i4.
The PRESIDENT. There appears to be quorum
present.
MIR. NJ GARNETT. The Convention is decidedly
agaist laying the resolution on the table, and lwi with!
draw my motion.
The question then taken on the resolution OF MIR.
STEWART, and it agreed to-a count being lad
yeas As, nays IS
So the Convention agreed 10 meet hereafter ut ~
o'clock, a. NJ
GUARANTEES AGAINST EXCESSIVE TAXATION.
Mr. HUNTER. ask leave to present to the Con
venon the following resolution and after it has been
read to make few observations in explanation thereof
Resolred That a committee of FIVE be appointed by
the Chair whose duty shall be to consider aud report
at e early day practicable, what limitations upon
the powers of the several departments of the govern
ment or guarantees in other FORM it may be expedent
to insert in the amended constitution with spe-
cia reference to the objects of providing ample and
eectua protection and security to the slave interests
and of guarding against the abuse unjust exercise of
the taxaying and evenueappropratny powers of the
government.
owe an apology TO the Convention for offering at
this late day. the resolution which has just been read
and certainly an explanation of the that have
prompted me to submit it now. say at this late day.
for undoubtedly it is late in reference to the length of
time that have been in session Whether it is late
early in reference to the period when shall be able
to bring labors to close is another question The
reasons then that have prompted to offer the
luton these: if not mistaken, in the Of
the discussion upon some OF the various miscellaneous
matters which occupied attention in the month OF
October last the idea thrown out and ACCORDING
the best ofmy recollection acquesceding enera by the
Convention that there certain of these limit ions
upon the powers of the government guarantees as
they have been called in their character, Immediately
lat least in the taken of this subject BY gen.
tlemen connected with the question of basis The idea
was acquiesced in If not mistaken, that would
be proper for the committee charged with the sub
iect of the basis and apporonmen Of representation
TO have committed to its charge the consideration OF
this question
Accordingly, series Of resolutions which had
the honor to present early the month Of Jan.
uary were referred to this committee No action
has been had by the committee upon the subject 1t
is true that most Of the resolutions of similar carac-
ter submitted to the Convention referred to the
Committee the Legislative Department andhavc been
reported upon. The resolutions submitted by myself
and which, alone were referred to the Committee OH
the Basis have not been acted upon or considered BY
any committee-othcr gentlemen having taken diff
ferent view Of the subject-nor was it even printed
itbeing suggested at the time offered the reso-
ton that they would appear the journal and that that
the Convention to their character Now the which
the debate has taken this subject it strikes me- shows
manfesty the Importance Of doing what this resolu-
ton proposes to be DONE and in the best form in which it
can be done. was gratfed to find, from the course
of argument of the gentleman from Fauquier (Mr.
scorr5 that he had adopted what seemed to Inc to be
the mode of arguing the question now before the Con-
vention in regard to the basis and apportionment of
representation. was gratfed when heard the gen.
tleman from Fauquier give to the debate turn Of
md DrOI in my iuf0n
than these arguments about the right Of the jus
ors this prtori reasoning about the formation Of
government and about the condition of before gov
eminent formed. all of which, to my poor appre
hension is Greek understand nothing about it. be-
Ieve in no such thing manknds existing without
government And here permit me to say this sub
ject that am not conservative. nor can [ agree
precisely to be classed infinite radical with
friend from Accomac (Mr. WIsE) | am utilitarian,
and if stand alone the leader and rank and file of
that party that is my position. 60 for the prac teal
and against the theoretc and abstract and speculative
As to the condition of man before government was
formed know nothing Of it, But as l relnarkins
the debate had taken practical turn, since the period
when the gentleman from Fauquier addressed the
mttee Twas extremely grati6ed hear him announce if
understood him Alright that he satisfied that lima
tions or guarantees, as they are called could be
formed and incorporated in the constitution which
would remove the apprehensions that entertained
by so many OF our eastern brethren, especially in
regard to TINS tax-laying and appropriating power
"nen near1 MN announce that proposition thought
began break and that there was some hope that
would not only the end of our labors but that
should be these amcaby and
satisfactorily But my hopes very soon vanished wien
heard the gentleman announce the other proposition
that he also satisfied that the guarantees
order to affect that purpose, would destroy this grand
system of internal Improvement of which he announced
himself to be ardent and Jealous advocate Now
take issue with him upon that subject. came here
~ earnest and fast friend of judicousGf NAV
vuhIc hoo honn
" perverted in reference to another subieet) sys
tenn of internal improvement, as the gentleman from
Fauqusr, or any other gentleman upon this floor But
If there i any one thing which propose TO aid in &C
Convention TO accomplish, il that Of cutting up BY the