Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-06-13

Were not restricted i'll their representation they woUd
vote Tor the suffrage basis in preference to the mixed
OASIS would much rely upon these gentlemen
" vote ior the white basis than would upon several OF
my iriends, ut least from the city of Richmond who
appear SO nearly identified with the mixed basis |
would much sooner rely upon, at least, half dozen
sehtiemcn could name, If it We're proper from Tide.
water, voting with me against the nix,sl basis, If the
sehtlemans proposition be rejected than would rely
upon majority Of the delegates from the city OF Rich
mond
Now, | will submit to my western friends that "hon-
esty Ii the best policy Icertanly do not intend to call
any man dishonest. mean tu mpIts TO no man ulr
tng but honesty ofntention, but submit to Them that
they will unite with ME i'll carrying out honestly this
mixed basis principle and give the city of Richmond five
delegates, to the city of Alexandria two to the city of
Norfolk three andto every city the number which is
justly entitled, and not give it to the rural districts
which are not entitled to il, whether threw will not BE-
more likely 10 secure votes from the other side than by
pursuing the opposite course which some gentlemen
have recommended. am not surprised that nv friend
over the way from Petersburg (Nlr WAAcE) should be
IN favor of the mixed blss, when it gives his district
twnmore delegates than it is entitled To.
Alr. WALLACE. |. wish to SAY that the town Of
petersburg does not receive delegates by this ap.
por!onment, than it is entitled TO under the mixed
basis
hlr. ANDERSON. If the gentleman will examine
the statistics he will find that The town OF Alexandria
has but one delegate.
Mr.. WALLACE. did not speak of Alexandria.
The town of Petersburg entitled 10 two delegates and
mas an excess under the mixed basis
MIR. ANDERSON. According 10 nv caicula ion the
Town OF Petersburg has no excess. h the contrary,
wants fraction of being entitled to two delegates.
Will not say that Petersburg. under fair apporton-
hent, would not be entitled to two delegates but will
SAY that Alexandria is better entitled TO two delegates
than Is Petersburg, because she has larger combined
population and taxation tnn Petersburg. Now / say
ia IN l,n
every portion uf the State ought he represented
cordIig to the principle you adopt for governing that
superintendent. That is the only honest and fair and
Just, and equitable mode YOU can adopt.
Mr. STANARD. | am perfectly content myself, that
the question should now be taken If il the pleasure
N the committee but rs other gentlemen are striving
i"r The floor trust, considering the position in which
stand towards this question: shall be allowed few
moments TO say what have TO shy in respect to this
matter. want to call the attention of the committee
10 the position which myself and inur Of colleagues
have occupied in regard to this question from il com
Inencencnt down TO the present tm" in answer |" the
attempts if not direct charges that have been made to
show that We were pursuing pulley which was de-
'rEctivc 10 the interests OF the people represent.
Now, gentlemen will rccocct VIC made an ATTEMPT
10 carry the mixed basis principle DY itself which
tempt failed IL one I: was the proposition of the
gentleman from Fauqurr (3ir. ScoTrl This morning
#lo made proposition for the mixed basis without
the apportonmcnt, which was also voted down by two
votes Yet the gentlemen whohavc voted against upoi
these two occasions, are the very ones who get up now
and represent that in voting Tor The mixed basis i'll the
only form IN which We believed it coud be carried a
al, that we are deprYingo constituents Of what the;
are juStlY entitled 20. Now genlcncil do not
snow that we here in Committee Of the Whole d.
not our constituents and thoae who feel Interested il
our course precisely the course We have pursued
Then because this proposition of the mixed basis ha
bcln carre, out how do those gentlemen who propn-'
1, al. tic.
carry out those principles. They come in here with
proposition to impose certain Restrictions rather
certain restrictions upon the cities Of the Commonwealth
TINT, although they should increase hereafter, N"
merely in respect TO taxation but in respect to p0pua
t1n-.hough they were to have 100000 white inhalit
ats. slill-upun the principles OF this friendly party
,li-se champions Of the white basis proposition VIII
hundred th"u.nnd white population. are n"m:naily L
be restricted 10 loss number Of representatives. thai
x. should be entitled I" upon ilc whit" population
alone discaring taxation This is The doctrine p-ecle'
i; those who probes to he governed hv principles 4"
;isicc and equality
" have l,.,. here for weeks and months. s.rlrns
10 come Ia sn!,n conclusion with regard to the hgi, d"
representations We have in vain enicavorcd TO carr,
me mixed basis principle b. itself. "" hay" been CON
pc to carry il through in the .oria it no bears, /
which there ara. un1uc.tionaby objections. ic!, whvf
=. have gotten 50 far the principle, even i
Lat shape submit to the friends of the mixed bias,
gicllc! j. is il accordance with sound po.icy TO en-
;nrro.. the question in this stage OF proceeding By a.
,.mpting +, cn,,rail this restrictions npon it:
Let m. colc..e Tor the sake O. argument, that 1t l.
,ht ia impose restrictions under ocrnn circ,ms ancc-
non the representation of cities and towns Of the State
+, what form ought that restriction 10 bc imposed
wI van irlposc it, n it has bean done in the Other
states. by saying when the population of the cite
hall come UP to certain amount. then they shall b.
nt.e to certain number OF delegates and 1t '1;''
orirc larger ratio give them additional rcprcscn
n.ion That is one mode of imposing the restriction
Tho firm in which your restriction shall be placed il
ucs.ion deserving the fullest consideration aud ap
neal in all honesty and sincerity to gentlemen who en-
.rtain the opinion that restrictions OF some hlnd ouh
be imposed for Gods sake not to bring this question
,p now. Laughter
,dnac (Nr WISE an, other gcntl c,ncn. need not may
me they GRADE the question, and get ra OF IL pS
r,gl i is very easy matter to resort l" tS "'"-
con TO do away the force Of an argument. am pre-
.ertag what conceive to be- 4 sound argument upon
his and in making this appeal with respect q
ii. Question Of the basis of RI presentation am pla
cng it upon The grounds have stated that s'pp"ssi
h, ,rocr to impose restrict ut ALL the manner ~
Itch th. restriction shall he mposed i question IN
r,ly;nr Il variety OF cnsidera1 ons. AMI which II snl'
mil, Will lead to 4 most prora :tel debate upon the u"
III nf The principle itself One thing Is Tery Certain
hnrss no .it!tio or ccr1 iry very few ronstlt,
;i,l ri this time IN any COM nunitv where IFoYis'i
hos been Incorporated to thee ect that notwithstanding
the increase OF population ard wealth both combined
IN town or city It's represcn tlon shall. ilfcr n" CIR
rums,ances exceed certain amount. The manner II
,vhicb TINT restriction has been generally imposed s.
far as nv information upon Sh" subject extends III ,h'
northern Suites and other parts of the Union IL ts
;,.s shall be entitled to certain number OF rePrcse
tqtiyes when they shul nave certain number Of III
habtuus and that this repres entatn shall increase az
nr,Iur 10 fixed ratio until Won get to certain point
AM; then il shall require an A.itionas nunp'r OF per
sons to give additional repre- sentation
make these remarks for '-he purpose OF s,oTl3 !.
nv friend from Franklin, Mr., CIalEoESE) WHO iiF'l o.
farcd This proposition to ,rir,g this matter before u. III
Committee of the Whole. that it will nev'taby ihVotF'
y. again in new discussion not merely upon the Prla
cnle itself but upon its details appeal 10 h'h ana
ober gentlemen who desire 10 dispose OF one qcsioD
- Least to abstain from bringing forward tins pr"P'si
tion now whatever their opinions may be. Ley US &c
trmne in the first instance upon the principle % re
presentation and then gentlemen who thinS as inc gen
ffleman from Wcstm0reland. CIR. BEALE) thas Wild
,rhite population mixed basis, or anything else TIER
ooht to be resric ton upon the cities can discuss tina
Question BY itself fairly and fully and dispose OF 1T a
,rev see fit. There is full time for such course. FRO
oston A. in the form in which it will be adopted VII
m doubt undergo revision in the Convention ltseil
IKE these remarks for the purpose of showing the po
zion we have occupied upon this subject, and the pos
.io, we still occupy If gentlemen think proper
,nder the influences which have been avovc here VIII
the declarations coming from the lips of gentlemen upo