Richmond daily times. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1853, 1851-05-13


The FaaslsaSr. Tho rkaif has se dysrs 10 sppaas
Mir, WISE. at Mr. ssowpeN's request. demanded the
previous Question.
Mr.. TAYLOR hoped the previous question would he
express his views. @"- ~ "''o"ee W
Mr: sTANARp spoke ten minutes to show why the
previous question should not be put This was a novel
| pfoposieon, prescribing mode of appointng a com.
nltIee not known 10 the rules. He saw not why the
"noie mouse was not as good means of arriving at
d. least l1at without gag the mode Of appointment
Would be lett open to discussion He read PROPOSE
Fon winch ne proposed to offer, providing that the
,har ana Western members should select each
M.r. OARTER OF L., reminded the House that an
question. ' 0N-~N "o p'> ''o''
Mr CLAIBORNE gave reasons why the previous ques-
.o should be ordeIed discussion at this day darkeus
INSTEAD OF enllght nng SUBJECT. The country demand
Gu acnon, not CANNON He hoped every frie1d OF COM
plonse would vote for the previous question. No
member would be bound by the report OF the commits
| tee.
MIR. Chiffon said if the committee were not be one
OF mere inquiry, the mode OF appointing it suggested
py W.T. Janney and Mr. Stanard would be proper
tie lnstanced the Compromise committee of Is as hav-
ing been appointed by ballot and expressed his conf
dence that very large majority OF this body thought
the results OF that committee emlnenty beneficial He
should vote against the previous question because he
wished every gentleman to be heard and then he should
| vote for the resolution
MI BARBOUR would vote against the resolution. and
for Mr. GARNETT's amendment. He profess ed himself
sincerely anxious to bring about an adjustment of this
contest But there was indication of sentiment on
the part OF Western members on Saturday, and CON-
| mnnlcated to US as unanimous. He referred to the
| Western resolution that compromise would be ac-
ceped which did not involve an entire surrender of the
Eastern position, either now or at future time. He
must therefore take as the cool and deliberate deter
| mmauon OF Western members to consider no other
TERMS and that resolution he regarded as an estoppel
upon further oyeues 10 vote for the committee woud
be TO vote that he ready to accede 10 the conditions
required in the Western resolution He was willing to 90
arher than his own convictions to adjust this contro
Yersy; but could utility in further efforts if the
West were unanimous in the determination they had
! announced.
II there was any intmation that Western gentlemen
| did not hold themselves bound by their resolution
he would vote for the committee, otherwise he thought
nwoud result in nothing, or in entire abandonment
OF the principle. He appealed to Mr. SUMMERS 10 know
Western gentlemen were prepared to abae anything
from the position they announced on Saturday even
Mr. Lyons would vote for the resolution if some time
were allowed Tor conference amongst Eastern men and
Western; men too.
| Mr. SUMMERS said some illusions had been made
which rendered proper for him to say something It
had not been his purpose to refer to what took place
| on Saturday. So far as he concerned and those
acting with him, they willing that those proceed
ngs should go to the world and to stand upon that
record lie did not consider the proposition for this
committee had any connection with those PROCEEDINGS
and Its mover had expressly disavowed having paci-
| pated in Them
| Mr.. BARBOUR referred to those proceedings not to
| crmlnate Western gentlemen, but simply as a reason
| ior voting against further attempt at compromise =
Did he understand Mr. Summers to intimate that anv
| concession would be made.
mr.. SUMNERs acted on this proposition as a new and
independent one, presented by gentleman who did not
participate in the conferences of Saturday If there
were mslority favourable to settlement let them
come up and vote Tor the resolution, and against all
| propositions to embarrass it.
Mr. FLOYD hoped this would be test vote as to whe-
her we are disposed to adjust this matter. He trusted
there would be no member who would ire to declare
that there could be adjustment file could not stand
upon the brink Of the precpce which had been referred
to, and look calmly into the gulf Let them come up
to this work. without any juggling, and step forward
| like patriots and men to do their duty.
| Mr.. M. R. H. GARRETT declined to withdraw his
amendment. lie could see no to expect any re.
suit from this committee, but that should bring for.
ward the Western proposition He referred to
Mr. WsE's speaking SO scorntuy of genteman's be-.
| ing manacled BY his constituents.
| MIR. Wise explained.
Mr.. GARRETT avowed that he was for protecting the
interest OF his constituents. Ii he disappointed in
regard to his amendment, he at least hoped the Con-
venton would have viva voce, open manly vote upon
| the appointment of this committee
Mr.. JANNEY asked if Western gentlemen would he
more likely to approve compromise that was proposed
by Eastern members, than emanating from Them
selves, and ccnrerso to Eastern members? He said
he recognised no majority out of these walls save that
which was represented here, disclamed being bound
by any shackles of caucus
" Mr. WISE would give dagrammatcaly his meaning
o.
mise, and 20 for it. The 80 outvote the 90 and SO no
scheme OF Compromise could be presented. He hoped
that senior members would not follow the bad example
OF the two young gentlemen Messrs Garnett and Bar
bour in referring TO what had occurred between the
two caucuses. He could select Eastern gentlemen on
this committee, who, he believed. would approve
Compromise that would meet the views of majority |
Mr. STRoTRER thought the constitution OF the conf
mee more important than the mode of s appoint
ment. He thought its number should be increased.
Mr. RIvEs suggested that, under certain circunlsan-
ct NJ
lngs OF the Committee.
All seemed to be willing to divide the power in the
two Houses, putting the mixed basis and one
on the white basis; and he suggested that it might be
deemed advisable to report two apportionments with
such restrictions on each side might be teudered and
the scheme might be considered of the two sections taxi
ing power alternately. He submitted the suggestion |
merely tor the reflection OF members.
Mr.. SNowDEN said he had always hoped that when |
ne departed this life he would be buried the banks of
his own noble river, and amongst the people he loved
SO we'll But he thought possible that he should end
his days here and his remains be inferred in sighof This
beautiful city, l. so, ne would request MIR. Stanard to
have this epitaph inscribed his tombstone "Here
hes the man that attempted to gag the debates in the
Virginia Convention"
The previous question ordered.
The vote then taken on the amendment of Mr. |
Garne and it was rejected, ayes IS, noes u.s. The
white basis members all voted no. and the following
Eastern members, viz Messrs Arthur, Botts Bowden
Chiffon, Claiborne Finney, Garland, Hill, Hopkins, |
Lyon, Lyons, McCandish, Martin OF fl, Morris, Ran
dolph, Saunders, Scott of F., Snowden, Straughan,
Strother Tunis and Wngfeld-22.
Mr.. STANARD moved to strike out of the resolution
the words 'by ballot" and stated that he wished if
they should be stricken out, to insert provision that
each half OF the committee should be appointed by the
Eastern and Western members respectively.
Mr.. Boris said he was willing 10 try every expedien
but ne was satisfied that the appointment proposed by his
colleague would defeat all hope OF the committees ef-
iecting anything. He would much prefer four gente-
men fromthe East selected by the West and tour from
the West selected by the Eas regarding the four Eas.
tern advoc ates OF the white basis Western members
Mr.. WISE hoped they would be regarded as belong
ing 10 the whole State.
Mr BORIS urged that the report would bind no one.
Mr. TAYLOR hoped the resolution of Mr. MARTIN,
1t ut was be amended proposed by Mr. STANARp
would be voted down. He thought the vote on this
amendment should be a test between those who were