Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-06-27
VIRGINIA !. - :. /
REFORM ONT
FURNISHED to RosERr q. GAILAHEE. Pa6lsshsr TO tn
G,ape,sion, By WIZ. @. BIsRoss OaeiaE Reporter:
FRIDAY, May 1etl, 1851. u, !.
prpa7S on ruE ,BAsIs= OF REPRESENTATION.
80 n.1 tro., ;Snuninnenl No >4Jl
mo. 46r.

,.na7S on ruE BASIS OF REPRESENTATION 90.
~ - It.,utsnusd from; Supplement- 1o.~43J ~
y, cnrrgoy. If ms colleague willigv way;
nv. INC. know no Sach thing. Twas not III the
,a..n;. hpt short time lnade inquiry q those Yho
Je,n.ined ana tke information rsesssa ~ ~. -
.,3 come TO 10 conclusion at all III reG'u y tie
60 - ~. COMPROMISE COMMITTEES, or III regard y
,t,sr distinct proposition of compromise. -.
"'. M c,Trr o FaIuucr. saw my e9lis.Suc. N
a,;n ,nt sl not know that he nay a3S se
himself ut 8 early raomel aud was ul,ust ~: l..
that edl!sasue had that L sJ,1s, that was sufficient L
F"5e % n,;na + rsb.ct 70 The estimation Ia when
df tiis Committee N2s he'd " u:e east
And tbst rs the Justification upon when ~ -.
cxn.ession Of my feelings Of surprise Ii III. H.
colleague still says if understands ...I anr 10
means 10 aane'e bouse and adjustment 81 tbs
- G,n, ribu.e by lis vote to inE,e totin. "
~. H;nl tn6n his eastern aSsoclate7-i''.s NJ
cc;r" 70 considerable extent, eastern s"pF,S
.ccll,atue Ike inself, represents ~ r. 1n
o,.,, we bnth have duties to perform 70 st.!' ~.
ats RESPONSIBILITIES 10 eucon,ern respect 70 Tug PEI
,ncc NJ ,Soss duties aad it is not for me 70 lec,tlS
coleaore in regard to the maner IN when ne sla
perform lther NE Is as free as am 70 Pasut N'I
course according TO tho dictates OF ms +
make no question upon thai. am 1's c,is;5,sr fair
compromise and In the result Of our action 10 ~ 'e
lest terms can obtain Ny colleague sc ~ r III;
had conferred with me while that Son'ti,j IL. -
subject under consideration, aud undetsiooa ma y LII
"a was concerned IVA. content TO sEPp5rt eo'Hp
nr of the character embraced IN the pr"Posuou "hich
Lsr. submitted sow rs IN amendment ~ nis' rs
told NJ further that lie was content lie Sen 70 taSs
it. ana Il was upon that proposition 'h.s nc an! my
Ccn,;rtee placed the,asevss-I mean the eastern pur
that Committee In the coi!acnccmt;t OF their
nsro,i.tons he concarred with ,hs that i was pro,
r,r ground Of compromise; he says It was os"s' ~
wwd lnrn., the negotiations and made l'I " h'st lny
position submitted By the eastern part 81 's
Sa,s bt tells MS he prefers what The Committee REPORT:
q, :nl considers it Is proposition better ier i.?ss.
bitter for his t6nsttucls Better for the east t4a ny
hi, first demand II struck III IS being aYtEy eS,';Vr
binary result of the negotiation that :,"re het; con-
promise ai,d iore Just terms shtu:I be upon
the Que side than the other deInanled ...., Il.
M Chiffon I 10 not propose TO ihaist another
speech upon this Committee viii STAG h''Me:'l,
that in the Committee the west ui'lc the 'iAs q tS
ii matter which they insisted was Absolutely heee7saN
70 secure the couct,rrette OF their members lacy ade
the point oftim6 one Of great Importance attaching ~
it animpoftamce that il my lul-E;Snt 20 nc Gt;oIs
10 it, ana think that solhe Of the western gs:riEen
concurrcd with mo in that opinion but tnsr aseoe'.s
thought differently Without CONCESSION o" tts P"ii
If hin. -.re could tare no adjustment. In my dsi
aent the CONTINUANCE If the eastern majority oE tea pP
othe year 1865 an ts continuance il point o. FACT 4pt"
1867 certainly and possibly TO SGa rs matter 81 Pre-
lection "thc east was OF p.rS!n6tIt inportance--was
OF moro i'm ottance than the Concession utoa the POINT
II time. The West attached more Importance to !ne
Ia;tached more Importance 10 the permanent majority
s the Senate and t was upon that groun considering
tie object tina: the east preferred TO haze 10 rs" tha'
thought the proposition better tha. TIE ors'aai pro
position. ." ,-...
Nh. SCOTT Of Faiouier. Ianptthcndenl that in that
opinion my colleage;wlIl snnd solitary ana ai"e. !.
Mr. Chiffon To that have no objection
Mr.. SCOTT. apprthend that It is the co"currant
opinion of all our western friends that the report .! tn"
Committee IL better proposition FOR them and there
FORE worse for Us, md that there will be found {" he
alurost'a concairnS opinion TO the same effect on on!
side a.'' - > 80 -
Now; sir We can bring this matter to test If my
colleague prefers associate himself with our western
brethren md force an obnoxous Compromise upon thy
By his vote hi can do it. If he prefers to asso A
With his eastern Brethren ahuobtaih for them bette:
carrsuuIise'f may be- III spo&er to accomplish It.
lie has stated here again to day tharh desires and IL
TO stand upon the platform with the east a:'i no;
give his vote m favor OF proposition which the east
tneuris NJ colleague sas it is yet to DO detershe1
witch Of the two propositions his eastern as,cctA.e
,.eier His name stanis high upon our list he votes
e.iv on the roc Let him forbsar to cast his vote
uu.i lie roll calod and if hafa dozen eastern men
vo,c for his proposition, Shall hold him excused for
,apportiugit. ..,.-,.
lpud cries OF question question.
Mr. Chiffon: 1rlust be allowed to say one single
wor! Nv colleague has told ME that if choose !"
(, with western men rather than to associate with
ca.,,rn men can do So Well only respond TO
.;.s ell pleasantly by detailing TO the CouGi''ee !,
little occurrence in my own town. )" ht:i .'"ncr;st
La:ays;;e there stout, athletic man rushed up
TO Tie General and SHAKING him b. the hand s*:H
'Ierai nv father nit under you" General Lafayet
vh-an the politeuess OF Frehch'naa replis, " |
hank you for lr'intorma;on" Great lausbtef.l
Sir. SCOTT. l did not assume the attitude towards
INV colleague which his snecdose would seem t"npls
nor do SCI how what sid could be INTERPRETED
What said asthat it was in the power Of my c?
league to stdd with his eastern associates, will whom
he was elected to stand andy his vote aid IN relieving
them from the embarrassing position in which they now
ind themselves; or it WIS III his power to stand with
the western ds,wh!ch" he was elected TO oppose and
contribute sti further TO Increase eubarassnents
and when he comes consider Els position aud render
m account Of tito bis constituents, lie will find think
something more than an anecdote necessary ioE hi:
ylulicatiUn. - - " .
Cries Of question, question. : -.
MIR. chiffon. II do think, in all Kindness, and
without rny disposition to conuue this matter further
that it was entirely UNNECESSARY for my colleague to
have given that finforinaton Because whatever Posi-
ton NAV take here, :. take with all the respvnsl,
by that belongs it. And whatever course Of action
may think uperto pursue the Consequences VIII fall
uporme, rs far my reputation IS Concerned II
unwisey and erroneously the consequences will al
upon those who sent The here but those VINO sent me,
trust did it with full confidence in my fidelity to
Inv course of action.
Mr.. FERG USON. call for the yeas and nays
The yeas and nays were ordered
The question then being taken the motion to strike
out Mr. CH1L1oSs propostioh-thc report of the Com
promise Con,mittes-thers were yeas 81, nays So a
follows: ~ ~.
AYEs-.tcesrs Banks; Barbour, BotGck, Bowles Brax
ton, burgess, Ckambss, Claiborne, Cooke Davis, Doug
las. t,diunds Edwards Pnnev, Flood, fuIua, Garland
u L. II. Garrett Goo4c HALL Hopkins, Janncy, jasper
Jones Leale, Ligon, Lunch Lyons, McCandlsh, Mason
Meredith, Morris Petty Ridley Rives Saunders Scrsgi
Scott of Caroline, Scott OF Fauquer, She'll smith q
Norfolk county Snowden; Soutlll, Stanard, Strotler
Taylor, Tretwar T,inis, Turnbull Wallace Watts Of
Nv-:olk county, Whittle-52. .,
Nogs-Messrs. Armstrong, Arthur, Bland, Blue Bow.
den. Camden Garlic Carter Of RUSSELL Carter Of Lou
o,. Chapman, Chiffon Deneale, Faulkner, Ferguson
Fisher Fluvd Fu!kerson Fult2 Hays, Hoe, Jacob, John
son kenuey kilgore Knote Letelef, Liobergr, Lucas
NtCanant, sMcGonlas; Martin Of Henry Miller, Eoore
Murphy. Neeson Newman Randolph. Seymour. ShefeY
Sloan, Smith OF hanawha, Smith Of Jackson Smith Of
lrvrubrier Snodgrass Stephenson, Stewart of srcan
SOAR; ii Patrick, Summers, Tate Trigg, Van Wrinkle.
Via Wiley, Williams of Shenandoah: Winsield,
Mi.e-56. !.
Mg. .AIRoRNE. The question now recurs upon
Inserting the report of the Compromise Committed
ala al-.. take step now that may BE- Tor veal or
i an, cod grant that it may; be for the better
@k that the time has in the proceedings Of this
Committee when it becomes me with an eye upon I'LL