The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-04-05


pared today, to pursue the victim any further.
The Black Mail Case In the New York
Senate.
THE TESTIMONY BEFORE THE COMMITTEE OF ~
/ yESIiGATIoN.
| MONDAY, MARCH 3l.-Present, Messrs. Morgan,
| Chairman, Mann, and Dimmick.
Samuel a. Srydan, eramiMd-Q. What is your
| place Of residence and occupation!
| A. reside at No. IA Barclay street, in tho city
Q. How do you occupy your time!
A. By reading, and other amusements.
| Q. DO you keep house at which gambling is
| lit was stated to the witness that he was not
bound to answer any question that will tend to
crimnate himself
A. decline answering that question, by my pri-
vilege.
9. Do you know George W. Bull
@. When did you first know him?
A. do not remember the date, but think the
I'D Of last February was the first time ] ever saw
| him.
O. Where did you then see him?
A. At my private residence, No. Ia Barclay street
e. Did he call on you ut that time in pursuance
Of any previous arrangement or understanding be
| tween youl
| A. never heard Of him, or saw him, before that
day.
O. State what took place, and what was said be-
tween you on that occasion?
A. He asked me if my name was Suydam, and
that he wished to have private interview with me.
told him to be seated. He then commenced by
informing me that there was bill before this body,
and that it was to be presented by his friends, Mr..
ROBINSON MIR. johnson, and Mr.. Stone They then
for this session. told him its passage or rejection
did not affect me in the least lie asked me, then,
If had not friends that it might. told him it
quito possible. He then said he would undertake to
do it for consideration. don't recollect anything
particular more that occurred Mt that interview,
only he said he would write to me when he got to
Albany, as soon as he saw his friends.
q. Is that all that occurred ut that interview, to
the best Of your recollection!
A. At present, this is all that can recollect.
@. How long did Mr.. Bull stay at your place at
that time!
A. About twenty minutes
q. Did you see him again before he returned 10
Albany on the same or the next day!
A. My impression is that did not.
q. Did you request Mr.. Bull, in this interview,
to endcavor to prevent the passage Of the bill to
which he referred 7
A. did not; told him knew it was impossible
G. Did you hold out to Mr. Bull, at that time
that you would give him any consideration to de-
feat the bill
A. did not.
you thought would be interested in defeating the
passage ofthe bill!
A. I did not
O. Did you name to him any persons who you
thought would be interested in the passage Of the
| bill
| A. / do not remember.
G. Can you say that you did not mention to him
the names q any persons that you thought would
| against II
| "A. No, cannot say.
O. DO you believe that you did not name to him
any such persons at that time?
A. My Impression is that did not.
O. Did MIR. Bull. on that occasion, state to you
the substance Of the bill!
A. lie showed me either the original or copy.
q. Did you read 1t!
A. read part Of il. and as soon rs read so far
| saw the object, and handed it back TO him.
z. Did he state to you that the bill had been in
trodrced or was about to be introduced!
A. am under the impression that ne said 1t was
| to be presented and suppressed afterwards.
q. Was the bill he showed to you on the I'D Of
February, printed bill!
@. You have stated that you read portion Of the
bill-was the bill in manuscript shown by Mr.. Bull
on the I'D February, the same as the printed bill
| now shownl
| A. II was substantially.
| O. When did you noat hear from MIR. Bull!
| A. In few days received this letter from Mr..
[Witncss here produced letter dated 9th Feb
ruary, marked Al
q. How did You receive that
A. The postman brought 1t.
| q. Did you make any reply to that letter from
Mr. Built
| A. did not
@. When did you next see him or hear from him I
A. think saw him in six or eight days there
| after ut my residence.
! q. State what took place at that second inter-
| yiewl
| A. / had received a newspaper stating that such
| bill had been presented, with that part marked.
MIR. Bull asked me if had received the paper sent
me, noticing the presentmont Of the bill l told
him had received the paper. lie told me he would
be sure to have it stopped that he had arranged il
with MIR. Johnson, MIR. Robinson, and Mr.. Stone,
sl.a 1,l.
| lars Immediately, and he wanted to know how much
| | could assist him | told him / would let hin,
know some other time; would see him again. lie
said he was going tol leave for Albany that day and
| would write me- Ut was at that interview ho in
quired where certain gentlemen lived.
q IL that all that took place at that interview!
A. All that can remember, except Us TO the in
| quiry where certain gentlemen lived
q. Did you give him the residence Of certain gen.
tlemen about whom be enqurcdl
A. Yes.
q. What are the names Of those personsl
1.-THE witness declined answering this question, and
the committee decided that he was bound to an
| swcrit.
A. Iieny Cotton, Reuben Parsons, Joseph J.
Hall, Mr.. Wallace, Orlando Moore, Patrick ).
| Hcan.
q. Are you acquainted with all these individuals
q. DO you know the occupation Of these per-
A. don't know that they are engaged in any
business.
q. DO you know that they keep gam ng houses
A. IL is my impression they do.
| q. Did you have another interview with Mr.. Bull
before he returned to Albany on that occasion
A. / think not.
q. lid you at that time hold out to him the idea
hat you would give him consideration for defea I
ng the bill
a. believe he was under that impression from
what allowed him to say to me, and not what
said to him.
q. What kind Of consideration did you encour
age him to expect
"A. He expected money.
q. When did you neat hear from Mr.. Bull afte
| the second interview
a. | next received the letter dated March ~
marked b.
q. How did you receive that letter-througl
what ,hannell
A. My servant handed Il to me. II was left a
the door.
q. Did II not come through the Post Office
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