The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-01-25
EIeHTH DAY.


since b. Of these objects, has made this
Try his rssidsnce knew Lopez By sight and rsnowni
vs. charged mo.th or two before witness LETT
Rico nom Spain, and rsvolutionixe them; he was
dstsetsd escaped and was condemned 70 death after
hight: he knows that since this expulsion OF Lopez
from Cuba, Lopez and other Cubans formed Po-
ticsl jupta At New York, 10 promote the political In
published ana vas subject Of between
MT clayton and Spanish minister this uns insisted
Of tour and Cen Lopes three Of the tour
Lopez; one aimed in the effort Of Lopez and his
unta to accomplish the project the purpose was TO DO
me q .ns so ~ ~ 1.
violating the law they saw msmhers OF Congress and
officers Of high station, and took counsel 81 all
persons Of standing - to the extent to which
| they could lawfully 60, in this matter; Lopes
don't speak English vt all; witness has been very
has been his organ OF communication with Americans
that sympsthised with his objects and views the
Gen Lopez and John henderson, with very slight
ceptisn the precise date OF conversation bstwsen
member; 1t was at the Presidents house - Washing
ten that witness first saw accused was "a to 9th
April last that Lopez and witness first put themselves
in communication with accused the subject OF the
expedition this vas in New Orleans; witness Was
not accompanied then by Lopez, who vas in vicks.
xas in vicksburs; witness and Lopez were then d.
rect from ashington vie the West; Lopez and don
sses did before seeing Henderson, hold counsel and
make some engagements with parties in the West,
which worked to and resulted In part in the exped
ton to Cuba; HenSs had not vet been conferred
with on the subject; witness heard part Of the tes
Of OF the witnesses for ution about the
band collected in CINCINNATI they called Ken
tuckans II is witnesss knowledge that Henderson
had Wedge in that engagement
OF people Of the West Tor mining and other purposes
formed the expedition that went TO Cuba known
to him they the bark Georgisna, the brig Susan
Loud and the steamer Creole what he says Is Of his
own knowledge: these the Susan Loud we're the
Louisiana ba ttaon; accured according to witnesses
the military part Of the emigrat by the Susan Loud
the nsr cisl part that correctly speaking there
was DO military part in getting UP the emgraton
that IN the getting up, providing and making
contributions Tor the smigrstol that went in the
Susan Loud accused had participation to WITNESSES
knowledge witness kDewe that the Suean Loud carried
arms the expedition; witness is SO intimately
connected with the expedition that he don't think
she could have carried without his knowing it,
he did 90 in her he went on the Creole he came
the Susan Loud at the intersection of 70 de-
srse OF latitude and 81 degrees those on
Creole took witness aboard the susan Loud; he re-
manned a short time and returned to the Creole the
the General gave orders that those from the Susan
Leud should come aboard; they brought arms
they supplied with from q different sources
the Creole passed the bar in the afternoon Sth
May; this is brought to HE mind by conversation
sau s.nsa hes 1ns nsst orasr Oh the
thinks it the 9th that officers recognized,
that witness himself was appointed; by leaving New
Orleans, he the after they were at
outside Of the coast; he appointed Adjutant
General in the first order Of the day 1t the
same day that Commisssry Moore appointed Com
missary to the boat that he what may have
occurred before, bet him and the Colonel his
spoke yesterday knows of no act Of military organ
izstion that occurred in the United States
his conception goes Of what military organization Isl
all paesed through Witness commissions never
sssed they began to write them the day before
ing Cardenas they had printed banks of which those
for one regiment filled up the day before they
reached Csrdenas; promises were made in the United
States Of commissions for Offices under the republic OF
Cuba in his opinion these promises whether verbal
or written, were not commissions the commissions
only ones considered or recognized by the General
or JuBta-of the arms and ammunition belonging to
the expedition that went to Cardenss none gwen
to any one till they left the United States
1t was expressly said to the officers the petition
that the boxes OF arms clothing uniforms, Sc,
the jurisdction Of the United States; TO his know
ledge, there discipline organisation Of any
OF the men within the Unitsd States IL . subject
Of long discussion about the point be and
his friends believed that Americans had the right
emigrste with without arms this was the basis OF
their combination; then the question was how could
this emigration be carried Some spoke of the emf
grants congregating on the Chandeliers others of the
Florida keys in their conference, suitable place
Ct re ndsEvous others OF Texas; remembers
o. witness havsg suggested the Isle of Lobos aso the
Isle OF Wemen or Mugeres, on the coast OF ucatan,
which was the place WHARF the hrst expedition Of s
that vas broken up BY General Taylor, was TO rendsE
witness supported in his suggestions Of Lo-
hos and Mugeres by Mr.. Henderson, tina plea that
two islands were out Of the United States within
the territory OF Mexico that being thers under the
American nag they could not be seized by the Spa
nish cruisers their papers being regularly taken rsm
question WAS thea which OF the two islands wAs best
Mugsres was chosen because Cuba and allowed
at their pleasure; all the articles that were provided
for the expedition were provided for by the sale OF
but not concerns the Susan Loud; John Henderson
a. he believes contributed nothing but what proceeded
from the sale Of the Cuba bonds; General Lopez
was the head Of the expedition to Cardenas; be
IL not an American citizen; he was born q sub.
jet Of Spain; both witness and Lopez are under
sentence OF DEATH; witness Was net ct the time
# the expedition to Csrdenas but Lopez WAS
Henderson knew little or nothing about the arms
except from general conversaton; that according TO
bis belief there portion Of furnished from
New Orleans of which Henderson knew nothing; his
recollection about the origin OF the conversation
the bends indietnct whether in yicksburg jackson
or New Orleans; he remembers being In the same
room spokes of BY accused in jackson, where he re-
fret eonversston with Henderson was in New Orleans
whether the bonds we're then spoken OF he don't re-
Lopez at Nicksburg; this vas their first meeting
South they remained night before going Jack
,oni cant be positive that hrst conysrsAtion about
ton was TO send back the Creole, with flag as q Gu
ban vessel. 1t was not intended that the Georgsns or
Susan Loud shoud go to Csrdenss but transport pas
teDgers TO Mugsres, and carry coal to supply the
cr.sei the Creole was supplied With email portion
OF the coal the Georgans Gen Lopez gave the coal
that remained the GsorgianA tn. captain q that
vessel Gen Lopez expected the Georgiana to carry
this coal to Key west where the Creol. light bu IL
her return from Cuba: there wa. genera permits
sion proclaimed that ali who chose might from
Contoy, and would be provided with food Capt Moore
was provided BY witness With some articles per-
soHt svailed themselves Of tho offer and remained on
the vessels; number of the officers OF the sxpeIi-
lion LETT letters for their friends in the United States
oil the twe vessels.
1t is alleged by accused, and admitted BY pros.cu
ton that the note Of 50 COO spoken of by Mr. 6edd
had interest calculated and added 20 as TO make
II equal to each
l. J. sigur-Mr Hendersonis desires and precau.
tons to take every means to avoid violating the s~
appeared even ridiculous TO witness and hi. friend,
Mr.. 0suIlivsn. witness wanted to 90 shcad without
all there precautions; he wanted Pecan Island for
rsatoEs he ststes but Mr. Henderson insisted that
this oud violate the Law witness OBJ ections
strong to Mugeres that at the last he tried to
svoa 81 fearful Of being discovered by fishing smacks
witness would not have scrupled At violating the law
beitg absurd and ridiculous tar IL goes be-.
Jtpd the law Of nations, but he never knew man 80
deter mined in sdhering to his plan he bi. sd
vice ano opinions-ss Mr.. Henderson; he was always
or avoiding to violate the Law.
The following letters produced BY TIE Distric,