The southern press., 1851-04-09

VOL. l..
the side of an established church, full liberty and
license were given to every religious sect under
the voluntary system, and why then should there
be legislation against any one kind of faith MIR.
Herbert believed that the bill was not intended
to be put in force bnt was merely to satisfy the
feeling of the country, and to deceive it. Lord
Palmerston said that he never remembered any
discussion that had been so painful to the mind
as the present one. The Pope of Rome exer
cised double action, Theological and political,
upon the minds of men, That foreign poten-
tate had committed an aggression on the Queen
Of this realm, and the people required that some
thing should. be done; but Papal bulls were not
properly met by cannon balls. The present bill
was not penal enactment; it was in principle
precisely the same rs the Emancipation Act
/ whilst it applied directly to the evil for which a
remedy was required, without imposing any re-
strictions upon the Catholic hierarchy, which
were Inconsistent with their sacred duties. tie
believed that the Catholics would not disobey
the law if it passed, and that II would be gen.
orally approved Of by the British people. The
legislature could take further steps if such were
required
! The debate was then adjourned till last night
| when it was renewed by MIR. Newgate, who
| spoke of the "arrogant invasion OF the temporal
and spiritual civil rights and institutions OF the
country" He condemned the conduct of the
government which had given advantages to the
ultra montane party at Rome, and spoke Of the
deficiencies in the bill before the House, which
contained nothing to prevent the exercise OF the
hierarchy, or the converting of synods; and he
said if the people were disappointed in their ex-
pectation of legal protection, they would take
the law into their own hands Dr. Power de-
nounced the bill as prosecuting measure, which
was fraught with danger to the peace, tranquility,
and best interests of the empire at large. Mr.
Henry Drummond said the question was simply
whether the Catholics should remain tolerated
sect under the spiritual dominion Of the Queen;
i or, whether the Queen should be a licensed
hereto under the spiritual dominion of the Pope
and, whether one-third Of the people should
be governed by a law unknown to the other
two-thirds, and deemed by the former paramount
| TO all law! Mr. Drummond declared that "this
night, or this debate, or this bill, or hundred
such, would not settle the question; for the
Pope had raised storm in this country that
would not be quiet again in the lifetime OF any
present" After referring to the power of the
Pope and his cardinals and bishops, and COM
menting in severe language on the doctrine and
principles of the court Of Rome, Mr.. Drummond
said that he spoke from what he had seen with
his own eyes, "Nunneries were either prisons
| or brothels; honorable members might take
their choice of the expression" An indescriba-
/ Bile scene Of disorder followed this remark.
The Earl of Arundel rose to order. He asked
| the speaker whether it was in order to refer to
/ those nunneries in which resided ladies devoted
! to the service of God The speaker decided
that Mr. Drummond was in order, and he again
addressed the House, amidst repeated Interrupt
| tons. He stated that Cardinal Wiseman had
! made assertions which were entirely false with
respect to the intentions of the Pope, and de-
clared that all Popes asserted that they were
lords paramount over temperatures, as well as
| sprituaIities, and Mr.. Drummond quoted nu-
merous authorities in proof of his statement.
| He then compared Cardinal Wiseman to the
Thugs, "who were murderers, but they commit
ted murder to obtain living; the Roman Cath
olics told lies as IAN act of worship" He quot
ed Dr. Wiseman, who, Mr. Drummond said,
"openly declared that if they (the Catholics) be-
lieved thing to be white, they were bound new
ertheless to call it black, if the hierarchcal
church so define it TO be-" (Mr. Drummond
was again interrupted by cries Of aoh, oh"
cheers, laughter, and general confusion.) He
went on to remark that. the people waiting to
learn the decision of their political leaders in
this question, and if the people were refused
efficient protection, then they would take the
law into their own hands-the only way of pre-
serving the peace would be to give them bill
with adequate powers-they hated imposture-
/ loud cries of "order' )-they detested every
thing like imposture-and, above all, "they scorn
those who are importing cargoes of blinking
statues, bleeding pictures, signifying blood, and
drops Of the Virgin Mary's milk" The excite
ment now rose to a tremendous height. Loud
and general EXPLANATIONS Of "oh! oh !"-"order,
order" shame"-numerou groans, some hiss.
es, and what is known as "cocb.crowing In
short, the House of Commons resembled for
several minutes complete bear-garden.
After the uproar had partially subsidized, Mr..
Drummond inquired why any member called
ooh OH" Dir. OFlaherty here rose to order,
and submitted to the English House of Com
mons whether there ought not to be, on the part
of the House, some expression of feeling with
respect to the language employedb by Mr. Drum
mond-(cries of "no, no")--would they suffer
members of that House to be thus nsulted
4 Cries of "order," during which Mr.. John OCon-
nell jumped up and moved an adjournment and
Mr.. Howard seconded the motion, amidst re-
newed agitation and confusion and loud cries
from all parts of the House. and above all the
words @you BLACKBOARD" were heard The
II Speaker then rose and asked members not TO in
terrupt the debate; and he hoped gentlemen
would abstain from the use Of any expression
tending to wound the feelings Of the menbers
of that House Mr.. Drummond again rose and
attempted to speak, but the Irish members lus-
tily called for an adjournment, and declared that
they would not remain to be insulted Mr..
O'Connell again jumped up amidst scene of
the greatest confusion, and asked if he was in
order in moving the adjournment of the House !
and also If it was not right that Mr.. Drummond
should make an apology to the House! Mr..
O'Connell's voice was entirely drowned in the
continued uproar, and cries Of "order." The
Speaker then informed Mr.. O'Connell that he
was himself guilty Of breach Of order cloud
cheers.) Mr.. Moore and Mr.. Drummond both
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