Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-02-11
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sa .nnnosed that in representative republican gov,
eminent ike ours-in government which Is con!roneu
Tx intelligent and vrtuous treemen-that patio'i'i
love Of country the good opinion 81 our fellow men, anu
of our own conscience. Were the Inducements " ~.
faithful discharge of the duties OF office anu not 10 Tue
consideration of a reelection. The gentleman from
Accomac stated that in his experience a or nearly all
the bad measures of the Presidents OF the United states
had been recommended in their second term have bul
little political experience; but my memory te,' me o
tarantiv According to my recollection at least two
Presidents Of these United States did IN their first terms
when looking forward reelection as proved by the
fact thu, they we're candidates for reeecton-recom-
1aenled measures very obnoxious to the people that
they were discarded from srvice and not pertted TO
hold the office second term aude TO the elder ana
Younger Adams There are some individuals who seem
to think that the time may come IN Virginia WIen no
person can be found who can discharge the au,eS Vi
Governor so well as the then incumbent 1enlieiGei
need give themselves fear upon th's SUBJECT Inc,
time will never in Virginia when one can pe louno
among her distinguished patriots. who VIII not ohly oe
wiling hn, competent to enter the gubernatoria chair
and discharge its duties.
The gentleman from Henrico stated that he had never
known President who entered IN upon the one term
pynciple who was not DESTROYS OF remaining III upon
the two term principle; and that Mr. Polk who had
cone IN upon the term principle, was desrous oi
ob Il nomination from his party that he might
hold the second tenn
s Mr. BOT1S. beg the gentlemans pardon The
faction OF Mr. Folks name. had asked the question
who OF the Presidents Of the United States that Went III
Oh the principle had declined TO serve on tle
Two term principle when that gentleman answered me
hy saving that Mr. Polk "ne-to which opinion
dissented but expressly torbore from entering '' a."
argument ON the subject
Mir TURNBULIA trecollect the statement was maze
- the gentleman states IT. But ne went on 10 say the
facts showed that after he into the Presidency he
Used all his efforts obtain nomination from ms part!
IN. han AT
Mr. BOlvrS M sir | say he would have been
ba.y IA receive the nomination. aud that no doubt ha'
Il been -en,;erl to HIM he would have accepted IL al
any time. ;.
Mr. TURNBULI.. Even with that explanation II
seems TO me that gentleman has done great injustice
10 Mr. Polk When that gentleman received and &C
cep,ed the nomination for the Presidency from his
party he expressly declared that he would not DC
candidate for reelection. have yet 10 iearh Oh one
single act of his administration that will go to prove
Thai he sought TO obtain nomination for the second
term | have always looked upon his administration
A. one Of the purest administrations and have at
ributed mainly the fact that he was not desirous
nia reelection, and that he had recommended meas
ares the benefit OF the people and not Tor the pur-
pose of obtaining reelection.
The gentleman from llcnrico in his reply to his col
league, the gentleman from Richmond, iMr MERrnru,l
who last addressed the committee asked, with good
deal Of triumph, why should not the executive be de.
pend-nt upon the legislative department. That is to
ay that he the executive ought to he dependent on the
legislative department because the members OF tho e
ySlaur. are the Immediate representatives OF tho peo-
ME and ndi ~ectl, the people themselves Now, was
VERY much surprised at that remark of the gentleman,
particularly coming did upon the heels of his
orabl. declaration that he had more democracy IN his
system than ninety niHe-hundredths of the democratic
PARTY had always believed that the democratic par
l. desired ;hat the executive and legislative departments
of the government should be separate and independent
I'll each other had supposed that they DESTROYS
tti the governor should be elected BY the people, the
sam. identical people who elected the members OF the
l..,islature They both then would be immediately
elected by the same individuals, responsible TO the
sane individuals and being coordinate branches OF the
government should be separate and Independent OF each
other.
Nr SOTTS. do not wish to have INV arguments
sr.pr-sened and very well satisfied that II Is
no; the object Of the gentleman misreprcscnt me- bnt
| th!nk lie misunderstands my position | had under
stood the gentleman from the city of Richmond, Mr..
MEeEufrh whom lie refers III the course OF his re
marks rs having taken the position that the legislative
department of the government was the one most likely
-, make encroachments upon the other departments
:ul thai for i- part he was anxious to strengthen
the, arm Of the executive i'll order to resist legisa-
tive. cncroachment 1t 10 that branch of the gen
lehman /, argument that | about to reply when |
was relieved from the necessity by the dsavowal of the
gentleman the ground which supposed ne had assuu-
81, remained still Of the opinion that he had taken
that position bat was happily relieved of the neceSsi-
:, III replying H. and still more happy to relieve him
which Thought H- arguments hatl
,,laced him and therefore abandoned the reply was
about 10 make that argument The governor of Nir-
mia gentlemen will continually confound with
the President of the United Stat-.te clothed with
al power aud the other stripped of all power went
on men 10 say in reference this cruor OF Virginia
That 20 lar from strengthening is resist lesa-
tve wilt that II his duty L. submit to the lesa-
tive will that he clothed by people with veto
power and that the legislative power might be regarle,
- the exponent Of the popular will and that there
lore the governor ought TO submit 10 the legislative
wili / stand by that position. .'i lei gentlemen make
the most OF 1t.
MIR TURNBULL, ain happy that the gentleman
has made the explanation; for really with the construc-
ton had put upon his remarks had supposed that in
the heat Of argument the other day, he had forgotten
= good deal OF his democracy leave that branch Of the
subject aud am that the gentleman did not wait
:. lew uo,neus. until had finished aad then hc could
lave gone with Irregular speech ii he had chosen 10
,lo
Mr. ROTrS had 40 wish IL ,io So
Nh TURNBULL. The gentleman from Hcurco stated
,h,. other day. that he utterly opposed ANY
uiher han this Convention to man. holding pow
81 for long periods Of time. Well after that decla
ration o the gentleman have been little surprised thai
"a. was unwilling 10 adopt the principle which maintain
Ii e viii make the Governor Ineligible. far that
o.fc. il concerned it will be impossible for the power
t. remain long in the hands of one individual but
r, on, his principle of eligibility without limitation
and I ask Won If power j. not likely to remain long
a!lusicn which made by the gentleman from Henri
80 thc other day, with regard Ia the Governor of Mas
sachusetts instead of going to prove his position the
contrary goes indirectly I" prove the position that
MAINTAIN and that this: The gentleman stated
tha, Governor Briggs ha'l held the office Tor min. con
.,cntive terms Well. it is according to recoec
lion this Governor who held his office for nine con
sscu,ive terms, that it had been attempted to turn
him out by both the wings and democrats Of Ma>sa
chus.tt- but he had entwned his arms SO strongly
around the gbernatoria chair that they could not be
severed except by those unholy coalitions which tn,
gentleman audes
am sorry that the gentleman from Accomac
has misunderstood the remarks tina, intended to max,
with regard his love Tor the dear people ass,.rt
lin, gentleman | never for moment desirou:
Of lasting any mputaton upon him, upon my
other gentleman in this house. | do nothing n,li
rectly And ii had been disposed cas-. any reflection
~ ~ I-sr-A---f this Cony cntion, would hav,
don. il directly. sl".-, -. ., ,ii-.-e ~4hod gen
t,-man from the county of Henrco and the very dis
iisuished gentleman from Accomac had We'd with
each other in love for the dear people.
Mr. WISE. The gentleman 'chaed when he said it
Mr. TURNBUL1. The gentleman SAYS ch;ned
We'll now, ii did il my manner with no intention
ofany dsrcspect 10 that gentleman.
Mr. WISE | have no doubt the gentleman meant No
l.. Ill