The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-03-01

choose TO pay in advance isa reduction TO six cents
Now, think. view OF the enormous expense required
carry the mails 10 Caornia-n view OF the wealth OF
the gentemans constituents from the abundance OF gold
lheretba, his constituents were here IN person. they
would not ask greater reduction than this The pro-
porlionale reduction is greater than Is In the other
parts OF the country and IN the name oi sense can
not wait year before we Will run the hazard Of
king SO low reduction as to three cent? and that In
the teeth OF the Postmaster General who tells as that
will create great dehcency! .4fgsI
But will not into defence OF this substitute.
We are within ten minutes of the time when the special
order 10 be taken up, and do hope the question will
be taken without further discussion trust we shall have
vote at eas, upon the substitute before the arrival OF
the time when shall feel consclenously bound TO LOT
the special order be taken up. INK .e6.sat1
Mr.. GWiN Mr., President. will detain The Senate
but moment want to correct the misappreh4nPion
OF The senator from Texas In regard to my opposition n
the substitute did 60 into the merits OF the reduc
hon proposethe reduction 10 three cents TO California
but my main objection to the substitute s this: if
send the substitute to the House, in my opinion the bill
will be lost want to reduce the postage and want To
Now in regard TO the remarks of the senator from Vir-
gina, Nj. HUsTER,l ne has made prediction and 20
have ie has made an estimate, and 80 hsrei. as4
Mr. HUNTER. My estimate was from the c0unmis
Mr.. GWlN. And my estimate was my own. There
was thing that the commissioner OF customs zen oui
and that was the estimate OF hundred ports not heafd
from. The estimate OF the port OF San Francsco--the
third in the United States, as believe exceeding every
port the Union except those of New York and Boston
has not been heard IRON, and will not be heard from IN
two months. .B et eH .yff t@
But the senator from Texas has brought before Ne
Senate the subject OF the expenses oil these mail eeQam
ship lines. Now, these steamship lines never
tablshed to maintain themselves by postage. They
established for other and higher purposes. We should
take broader and more statesmanlke view OF thoss
lines. They established 10 enable coanmssce
compete successfully with that OF Great Britain .Nur
great rival The commercial supremacy OF nations de-
ponds upon this experiment Though il s now in its
infancy il has produced most astonishing results. anal
properly fostered BY the government, will make ours
tended that these lines should sustain themselves BY post
age. They ceaed for other purposes, and the 0A
age to California was ten times as great as II was i'm
agned when the line was created hope the change for
this line of steamships will not be down to the post
age of California. st # gete3 ~ eegIStps
The question recurring on agreeing to the emend~ent
OF the committee as amended in committee OF the whole.
Mr.. GWlN asked tor the yeas and nays ~ a.assussg
Mr.. CLAY wish to say that il the friends Of free
debate and the friends OF free postage will only come 70
conclusion in the conflict between the two fses-
doms, and let have the question, will not call tor
the order OF the day but il they will not. must insst
hs Rsk sSs'nSa q the ISe pledge
Senate clock is too fast. lLanghterl s5s ,ipao
The ysy9MIn yeas and nays were ordered ..,.. Z,
the rejection OF The amendment of the committes the
adoption OF the bill of the House' Is aatissh
The PRESIDENT. The rejection of the amsndnsnt
of the committee does not adopt the original bill The
question has to come up the third reading of the bill
# leaves the bill unamended and 1t will still be opsu to
amendment. a a 8lr .gt .i.e & "a. asw ya,ta
Auc yeas Anu nays DeHlk uAeH Ou A6ieeHA " W.
amendment OF the committee, amended in tommittss Of
the whole, they stood as follows: a a a9an5s
YEAS-Messrs. B- Berrien Borland, Bra dbury. But.
er, Clarke Cny. Davis of Massachusetts, Dawsoa, Devns
Ewing Felch, Greene Hunter, Jones' Kng Masou, Nor.
rs Pearce. khe,r, Ruk. Sebsstian Smith, SouS. 9ptu
ance. Sturgeon, Turney Underwood, Wales Wh,tcoRb.
and Yuee-3i. .r.4.4 f4.4 l.s FasF5
NAYs-M.ssrs Baldwin, Cass Chase, Cooper. Dayton
Dickinson, Dodge Wisconsin Dodge Of Iowa, DUsas.
Gwn, Hale. Hamln, Miller, kan,oul, Seward, Shields.
Upham, and WaIker--ls E #gfA ~. Q
So the amendment of the committee was concurred in.
The question then coming up on the engroSsment OF
MIR. GWIN desired TO offer an amendment
The PRESIDENT Ii is too late 49, afs.,
told that could offer il at this time. -
The PRESIDENT. The Chair said that il could be
done after the amendments were adopted in committee,
but not after the amendments had been agreed to he
Senate. ~. tsstr..s
Mr.. GWIN Ii is an amendment sen, by the Post
master General in regard to California 81 IN FL
The PRESIDENT After the question has been taken
concurrng in the amendments made in committee
further amendment can be offered
Mr.. BORLAND Mr.. President, il the question 10 10
be taken the third reading OF the bill
The PRESIDENT. The question is on ensrossns
the amendments for the third reading OF the biIi ,N
Mr.. BORLAND. desire to make remarks ia
opposition TO the bill, and the time for the special
der has arrived ss.#. q es# y - - rpfi ii
Mr.. RUSK. | hope the honorable senator will con
postpone his speech unit, the third readiag OF the
bill. desire 10 have the bill printed amsndsd.a ssss
Mr.. BORLAND Then will withdraw my opposi-
ton Tor the present and will postpone my remarks until
the question comes up the third reading of the bill
The ndrnents then ordered TO be engr0ssed
for third reading OF the bill. ~, ~ X.