Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-04-29
reply to the reS.syxs eli tie seat:oisaa iroa icesh
L;:t in the present condition Il tie house.
III. VOOLFOLK AK the gen: easa to vat to
lei there be .tle dea- c,l the members have tase
70 carr. in Trn cer-'nn,-- e :, -
70 q ths Convention to consider the resolution so4

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e - fha Convention to consider the resolution 6,
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Ire PRESIDING OFFICER M. Pic, in Il
a chair, The Chair viii Dtcrn TIE gentleman, fro
: ita=or that the resolution Is not row in order The.
IS motion pending IN commit tie resoluiion offered
= The gentleman from faHquer. r,
NJ. nARLILE i. difficulty car BE- obvisted
motion 10 pass thu. subject b. informally and the
the ent!cn,a. from ,.snn offer his resolution
Tie PRESIDING OFFICER. a motion b
mall TO az the pending resolution and aInsndlnent.
the table
NJ FISHER. Then make the motion.
lh1 GEe';l"n taken. and the Chair announced
49, 81 ""cs l5-ao quorum voting
'.r iI'>aEh. Object 70 doing business unt'
We can -; quorum Gentlemen who vote to coerc<
Us to these afternoon sessions the last to at:en
Az bi.4 IT,. moved ;:'l. :herc b. cali of the House.
| Mr. CAHLil-E asked Tor the yea. and Dars On the
notion that there be 4 call Of The House
| he veaa End NAYS were ordered ard being taken
were PILLOWS:
.lTEs--Me=srs Bca!s Bland. Prom. Garlic, Garter
.; E:u5,aii, Fu;Serson Gay. Jones kennev Kiisore
Leicier Tee-oa Randolph, Stewart, of Morgan
| AMI " orshaEl-2u.
NAYs-iessrs Anderson Banks, Barbour, Bird u
Shenandoah, Bowden Bo~!es Camden, Cspsrton, Carter
Of Loudoun Chiffon Cooke, Deneae, Edwards, Fer
,nson Finney, Flood. Fultx. Garland ". Gsrns,t
Hail. Hays, Hill. Hopkins, Hunter, Ianney Johnson.
Kno.e, Lyon, Lionberger Lynsi, Lyons, Mccam.nt,
AcCandiLsh, McConas, Martin Of Henry, Moore. Nav.
man, Price, Scott o Caroline, Scott Of Fauquer She'll
Shetfey, Smith {. ksn:wha. Smith OF Jackson South
all Stenard. Taylor Van Wrinkle, White Wise, Wool
folk and Wysor-53.
The question then required upon the motion OF Mr..
Fisher. to lay the whole subject uloa the table
Mr.. FISHER. For the purpose Of accommodating
my friend from Richmond, iiir Lyoss,) will with
draw that motion for tie present; but will give notice
slat will renew it cit &C thi. evening or tomor.ow.
Dir. LYONS. When the Convention adjourned b.
fore dinner, was aboHs to offer something in the way
OF explanation in some OF the commentaries
that had been made upon by Inv friend from Acco
mac. CIR WIsE) He really Yields the pencil Of
iogarth, and so much with the POKER Of that eminent
artist, with his faculty Of dstortlng 40 remarkably
that should not have recognized mys:lf in the picture
that WA drawn, and think nobody else would have
ynsed me- the person ha describing as har-
lng taken the positions which he supposed me TO con
tcn. Tor, or which he e.Ica"orcd 10 fas'cn r~on ma
and the conclusions he sought TO draw from those opin
loas | an III degree responsible, perhaps, for
having rather un*ittngiy drawn az body into this
fiscu sion. by wh;.c | thought it wa. proper sbond
-ay Under the circumstances which vas situated.
1t will be borne in mind by the Convention that upon
suggestion to refer this proportion 10 pay the repor
ter TO :lcommltsee, connected with an enquiry In 70
spect TO the subject of printing. riY friend from, Aceo-
mac. jlr. Wis., pleased give diaquisltioR
upon The subject Ct light, ans. upon It." lnp"rtauce
Of light And while ne ,st'ainl., very properly, Do
he rlaw m: op1ionz ana intentions too WELL shy
thought that l. indy. uaiiy in This proposition TO re-
fer :rl- au. To co.:i,te- desired to suppress the
Publication. to SUPPRESS l!gn, -;ill he thought tho
u! st OF Of those who concurrng in the pro-
Inatn Ia refer was = sUnprcsa the light whlsh no
we'll Evscl' nxioG3!y desired 70 hATa shed
th. whole subject. IN order 20 put myself per
fs,.;i right, and those who night happen 10 agree
,i-, hat
upon that sbjec: was and referred 20 debate which
understood had taken place here OF Saturiay-Whicn
did not nave the pleasure OF hearing, Oh account OF
professional engagcmcn--in Which i wa. saia thsi
majority OF delegate. from this district were not Ia
accordance with their constituents upon tho srsat
question oil the basis oi reprrrrcsentatinn. l SAID
that I desired light upon al! qu:-ti"ns but moro
especially upon the basis question, and stlil more
did / desire that that very debate should so OCT
az promptly as possible, in order that my own constit.
ucns might see it, and read it, and understand it. And
when it did go out desired it mi, hit 60 accompanied
with the declaration that they Tere not IN accordance
with the sentiment. expressed it were better that ls
should be promptly made known to them for while
| would not retain their power and defeat their will
and turn that power upon them, could not be n.true-
ted hy any majority however strong and overwhem-
nc 70 give vote in . Convention for any propoeI-
t.oi that III my humble bur deliberate Judgment would
Law the Foundation for the destruction of social order
aud the social system But that in the event Of that in
suiei by any abuse Of it on my part
remarked a!so--and il taken mp and has fur
nisl.ed the principle text for the commentary Of my
friend from AccDmac-tlat worid not vote TO base
this government any government upon numbers
merely because in my opinion, TO base governments
upon numbers merely irrespective fall other consider
atoms would b. 10 establish government that would
no, i.4t 1t would be- il YOU please, democratic gov
ernrnent entirely democr&tc but for that very rsa-
SOIL not 4 republican government: and that If was al
lowed 10 Judge 4. alone could Judge. from the erpc
ri.nc. and history of tn" past Democratic govern
inrrt in the true meaning otae word. can last. And
a, liberty j. the first and great object Of ell Of us
81 lar ~ government and governmental protection Is
CONCERNED republican government IL the proper gov
erasuent think state correctly the position e..
.uEt.d II an ncrrrcc. III stating it, il is not be-
ca,-. intend TO b.. ST. to7 intend to state the opin
ion, Of body else :r oaly those which really en-
terrain and if do express them fully and freely
il i, kcra;:-e there is i!p-r.ccon in nv capacity
of EXPRESSION From this 1t has been sought tn de-
,ic- the conclusion, that Srust the people, and de-
M their right and power /" SoTorn Themselves, or
Sic capaci;v 10 50, and the most extreme coneu
lions nav. ..n i:ulged in he subject. confe.s
va not lit:le suprzcd 10 hear this, and from the
Quarter from which it CAME: from one who knows My
opinions perfectly we'll upon almost every subject, and
who knows that in respect To the right Of the people
t control their government and TO manage it, far
A. Is consistent with the common safety, in favor
OF their exercise Off, BY desiring give them the power
officer except those which rnimportan an to rem
der it unwse On grounds OF cxpadency To trouble the
peo pie with ccc,ing. Seeing tha, in these respects
stand before the country a. distinctly committed as 1t
ia po-sDlc for n be committed, confess was
little surprzed TO that the gentleman from 40
ceu,:c instead o. taking up my argument and endsav
orng draw lro;a il whatever conclusions Nigh L.
Ultimately be drawn from it, seemed to be disposed to
scribe to me, opnioa lying at the foundation OF
it, IN idea sentimeat Inconsistent with the general
proposition Of the right Of the people to self govern
neLt. am very unfortunate in my apprehension, II
have misunderstood him il this respect, and
surprzed saw because it occurred 10 the time
he wa. making th. demonstration me, that there
had been way bill" issued from Acconiac, which
bore BIZ, signature and that that way bill thought
had SEEM to use Of his expressions, the most
peculiar double twisted -tewcd end boiled down 1.io-
tn, of di-trst of somebody that had conceived
OF IN M life. And. a. it applied to the people, and no
bydy but the people, in form other, it must be
q distrust Of the people 1t that while the peo-
pie sod be permitted to elect their judges ia the frat
ustanca there great apprehension in trusting them
to rs-eect their judges.
Mr. WISE | challenge the gentleman to produce
any pay bill' from containing such sentiment.
den- there is any -uch sentiment in any way bill"
Of mine.
Mr. LYONS have not read the gentlorrArs way