Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-20

asked, ana you G. ant it whenever YOU please.
! Mr. Bolts | would suggest to the gentleman
from Accnlnac, Mr. WIsE that that has been done a!
readv this morning
! llr. WISE Yes, il has been done this morning
Mr. STANARD. No sir, the gentleman is mis-
! tax H.
/ Ar. WISE Yes sir. ii has been done this morning
for il was violation of the allow the gentle.
man rom Campbell (Mr. SArSptRs,) to withdraw bis
propo.;iion II INV colleague. 1.r FISSHY) had per.
listed in hi- objection te question would have been
obliged be taken Now, sir, because tbs Will sun
viuR;+ the rule 10 degree III another aspect
grant the same eGve In the one case as In the
o,.r '. 18th the uni, ersa eut OF this COMMITTEE,
it is perfect Contradiction OF common sense 70 say
thai may moi burn every PROPOSE ion up the tanl<
{! By universal conssnt VS. may throw them al Guy
OF doors. and We may Be brought to that pitch
when 10 proper .ersrandinS o thus
question. when 10 Come 10 compromise that viii
settle all d,sen>ions amongst US may be obliged
~ agree throw ali uisagreeneuts upon ev-
RI, pending proposition. AID take up something that
sill unite Us. And would t God that this vas the
verv day wien could 10 that verv thing. We can
do what We please here that i within the bounds OF
be npetcncr OF the Convention by universal agree
Rent consent.
Mr.. CLAIBORNE should like TO Snow upon what
question this ght upon the par anenary law has oeAa
thrown upon tI- bour tiuk we had better burn up
the rules and the Manual. abide BY the par anen
tary law it is and our rues construe II to BE-
u not understand how this discussion could have grown
Up here Wy understanding of the parliamentary law
- that it the duty OF the CHAIR 10 have decided.
when leave asked by the gentleman IRON deufieS
r Bofrs) TO Withdraw his proposition whether It was
II order ur Tim IL p "r not Then, if any member
ad OBJ eel cd 10 the decision Of the CHAIR would hars
b. n bis duty 10 have appealed frcm that decision, snd
hen ii the discussion hrl taken ac. 1t would have
oeen entirely in order. desire IL Know what ques''"o
IS before the committee:
The CHAIR The question Is, whether the 8en,Ie
men from Hsnrco (Air. Boris shall be permitted u
withdraw his proposition not The Chair decided thai
in the potency oiihe Committee 10 permit
hin! I" 10 But he pern:ttrd gentlemen Of more eA
pcr"nrr than himself make suggestions in regard to
he subject. Had those a$.es,uus satisfied the Chair
/ he would have decided differently.
Mr.. CLAIBORNE Ila, there been any eppenl from
that decision:
The CHAIR. There has t-.en none
Mr.. CLAIBORNE Thea ask that the vote b Ia
ken upon the motion ci thc gentleman from Henrind
Mr. Bnrs) for leave 20 wii;ii-sS his proposition
Mr. WATTS Of Ncrf,.l only ask that the motion
" submitted in lis proper nrm viz: that tho rules Dc
suspended i"r that ltrn'-'.
CGIE- q: No. no.
Mr. FLOYD. AK ior information. At The Porlo1
Il the adjpurnmen, yesterday, there pending pro
position offered b. me gentleman from Campbell (NlF
SAcSDLE,
Tie CHAIR That has been withdrawn upon leave.
Mr. FLOYD. And now the same courtesy Is asked
ny The gentleman from H:nrco, lMr. BorT] and 1t Il
,hiccte,: %.
i MEMBER i nov proposition i.as been nterpo-
ed BY the gentleman from Williamsburg. lslr. Bow
nES)
Mr. S!ANARD When the proposition uas submit.
ted hy the gentleman from Campbell MIR. SArSDsRs)
thar was the proposition before the Committee Lcsv"
Wa granted to him I" withdraw his proposition But
.nw, the proposition is Withdraw the proposition
..iorr Tia. committee which j. the proposition OF the
en,lctran from Williamsburg. (Mr BowpES but to
.ithdraw another to wine a!s proposition Is amenaan>
y Ii the house thinks p.ope: |" Suspend the rules w
he question be put.
The CHAIR The Chair bcgs leaves TO soy, that ha
placed in situation there is evidently sectional
ceiling in the houae. Of some delcncy. The Chair has
ec;,led upon euother occasion against what is 't!e!
he parliamentary aw-dcciIng hat ii Proposition
rcken ont and another is inserted the Inserted propo-
ton may be amended The Chair understands that
Ial dee; jon is not according parliamentary law, but
was II decision founded upun with that the Commit
~ shouid have opportunity agree upon some pro
usitinn without restraint restriction from the Chhr
;"w The Chair is in precisely the same situation and
derG. that it is in order for the member from deo
leo Mr. horrs) be permitted 10 Withdraw his pro-
osi.ion.
Mr.. FERGUSON As understand it -
The CHAIR. The Chair has decided the question
I'D unless appeal is taken, The question VIII now o.
~, The Chair is far from hcing satisfied with tho rea.
ms thai have been given, he would change his de-
:ision with pronptness
Mr.. EDMUNDS. ! wish to ask question tor lDioE-
aa:ion i. the gentleman from Henrco (Mr. BorTsl
permitted 10 withdraw hrs proposition what VIII o.
me of he proposition new before the house-tbc
.ropc.on Of the gentleman from Williamsburg, (nY.
ipwpES J
The CHAIR. That proposition falls with the other.
Dir. Bolts. rise for the purpose OF asking 'ns
cas- and na;s upon the proposition which nave suo-
l.ei, for leave 10 withdraw M proposition for The
.,r@:cui. .
III. ycls and nays we're ordered accordingly.
Mr. SliEFFEY. desire 10 say single word' not
,,an ~; poil, Of order a: all unlersten1 that the
surl, man from Campbell (Mr. SAr:DLRs) q Tot wish
is proposition to be voed uron This morning, and AZ
n az! OF courtesy he asked leave oil the Comml'ee "
i,hdraw it, whc.. leave this committee might have
fsed and thus have forced tie proposition 10 Vots'
I'd the COMMITTEE chosen do That gentleman
.ke! leav. of the Committee as an act OF courtesy 70
.ms.f personally TO Withdraw his proposition from ~
nsideraton for the present. Now, uhoers'aho 'ast
70 gentleman from Henrico (Mr. BoTTsl asks leave OF
&c Committee 10 do the same Identical thing, as an act
t courtesy to him. He does moi aesl e 20 haVo LIB
roposilion put 10 vote at this time BON the gen
erlea have Indicated their intention OF re-suomn1ing
1eir uurrudnents at another time NOW, ask tns
committee whether, when the leave has been grantee 20
re gentleman from Campbell, (Alr SAuSDER',) there
any reason Of fairness any reas III oil proprley II re-
lsiug the request Of the gentlemen from Henrco' lMr.
oTrs You make any lest questions oet~ SEC
,ns oa an 2ct Of courtesy 10 member Who does not
esre his proposition TO be submitted 10 Tte atm,
.me pit il upon this ground and upon uls ground
ionc Every gentleman knows the proper time lot the
omission OF his proposition. The gentleman from
ampbell Mr. SArNDsRs) thought on yesterday that
nat was The proper time for submitting his proPo-
.;on So the gentleman from Henrlco lMr' boTr')
fought about his proposition. To-day the gentleman
rom Campbell that was not the pF0periilns
I'D lie asked leave to Withdraw it, to which no oo)ec-
ION was made and leave granted. The gentleman
;om Henrlco puts his motion upon the same ground
let here is an attempt made to found secti nal issue
ro.. III. question Of granting the gentleman from hen
eco leave to withdraw his propo'ltlo' II 1t Id reiu-
II lie Committee will not be acting IN accordanc"
r,,b the rules that have governed 1t heretofore.
Wr WATTS of Norfolk. 10 not rise to appeal
m Tho decision Of the Chair bit to call the attention
the Chair to question that was asked oy the gen
eman from Halifax. (Nlr EpMrsps) IN reference u
nc fate OF The proposition b. the gentleman from Camp
BELL ,Alr. SArSpERs.)
The CHAIR. The Chair has already decided that
IA o,c proposition falls with the other
MIR. WATTS. Caa ,hrn give leave TO inc geo.
nao from I!enrico TO with!ra" ms proposition when
!, lh. same time it wititraHs the proposition Of 1he
Gentleman from Campbell ,,,,
TN. CHAIR The Chair has 90 decided, and unless
anpeaI j., made from tina, decision the question must
e now put. .i
easo.. why should be permitted 10 withdraw InS
,rpn6sion.