Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1851-03-08

Of the Senate read record Of the proceedings in
open Senate. That apprehend to be the state Of the fact
The Senator from Indiana calls for the reading Of the Journal
think under the rule, be is entitled to have it read and
think the Chair will agree with that there nothing In the
journal Of Yesterday which requires the doors be closed
while is being read. That, it to me- solves the diff
Gully in which are involved. s,5sfa
The PRESIDENT. The Chair has but remark to
make Almost oil the pecedens which have been read apply
strictly speaking the organization Of the body That read
BY the Senator from Kentucky from the journal OF the called
session of 1925. the Chair ecoec perfectly WELL being in
the Senate at the time. Il very potraced debate,
which upon the organization of the body in consequence
Of question arising the qualifications of Mr.. Lanman,
Of Connecticut The Chair yesterday acted the principle
that the body was not organized when il met and therefore
he did not order the doors be closed The journal would
have been read to-day without there being necessity for
clearing the galleries. but the Journal read the
Chair would not be at liberty receive any proposition unless
related to the organization Of the body the transaction Of
business necessary to its organization until the doors
cosed and 20 stated The journal Of yesterday egsa-
tive relates to the organization Of the body II any ques
ton had arisen as to the right Of any Senator qualify,
would have had TO be decided in open session. until
the body organized could proceed to the considers
ration Of executive business.
The Chair may be wrong regard to his objection to re-
csng proposition before the organization may taken
place. but the doors being closed and for the purpose Of trans
acting executive business is within the power any Sena
open the doors to introduce proposition not
particularly connected with executive business.
Mr. BERRIEN. The Chair will permit me to make sim
the Chair says relating to the organization Of
the body exclusively, and were necessarily discussed with
open doors.
| The PRESIDENT. Precisely.
Mr. BERRIEN. But the Chair will recoect that the
proceeding which took place in lS4 question in rea
to the dismissal Of the public printers and did not relate
the organization Of the body was introduced upon the
motion Of the Senator from North Carolina, (Mr. MAssUM j
wss discussed with open doors; and the proceedings In
lation 70 il are on the legislative journal.
The PRESIDENT. So the Chair understands; but the
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open closed at the time Of the introduction Of the reso
| luton.
Mr.. BERRIEN. The Chair will permit me to say there
legislative and executive Journal legislative and
clerk and in the appendix the legislative journal is
published the proceedings OF the called session.
| The PRESIDENT. The Chair perfectly understands
! MI. BERRIEN. Then there is no evidence that there
any executive business transacted the first day of that
session The proceedings in open session. and when
communication containing nominations received from the
President Of the United States the doors Of the Senate were
closed
The PRESIDENT. The organization of the BODY il with
open doors Then propositions may be introduced and con-
sidered which for the transaction Of the business
Of the Senate Butwhen the Senate have gone into execu-
tive session. after having organized and meet the next morn
ng becomes the imperative duty Of the Chair previous to
receiving any proposition, to have the galleries cleared No
legislative business no business which is of executive
character be transacted But the doors be not closed
the journal must be read This may precisely be the
case with regard to yesterday. We were then organizing
and the body Of in open session To-day
on still further to organize, by qualifying the honorable ena-
tor from Pennsylvania, (Mr BnoDHEAD) After the jour
nal Of the open session Of the Senate yesterday should have
been read the Chair would have ordered the galleries be
cleared previous receiving any proposition for the purpose
Of ascertainng whether the proposition related exc
cutive business the Chair is wrong, he wishes the Senate
80 to decide and he will acquesce with great pleasure He
has no feeling as to the matter at ell.
Mr.. MASON. hope there will be objection to the
reading Of the journal Of yesterday understand purely
legislative.
Several sssAroRs. There is no objection.
Mr. BADGER. The reason offered my resolution so
soon was that when the Presiding Officer took the chair with
out the reading Of the Journal he directed the doors be
closed. said hoped not, for had resolution to Offer
was told by the presiding officer that could not offer the
resolution until the doors were closed that the doors
necessarily be closed, this executive session. Of
course, did not wish introduce the resolution before the
legislative journal publicly read; but, the presiding
officer directed the galleries to be clessd had no.his sse
to do but offer the resolution pu'ueu "na ne oeemsa
Mr.. MANGUM. The Senator from North Carolina (Mr
BADGER has read from the journal of lS4l. And the Sem
ate will have that during that session. whenever the
Senate proceeded to the consideration Of business purely exc
cutive it upon motion and the order Of the Senate
Mr.. BRIGHT. rise to press my point Of order must
insist that the journal be read before we can entertain any
other proposition.
ought have submitted his resolution until the journal
read The first requisite is that the journal be read
Mr. BADGER. have already stated the reason why
submitted the resolution prior the reading of the Journal
was because the presiding officer ordered hgaeTes to be
cleared and because had any objection to the reading Of
the Journal
The PRESIDENT. The journal then will be read before
the question is taken on the proposition.
The journal Of yesterday was accordingly read.
Mr.. BADGER If it is necessary again ask to lay the
resolution on the table.
The PRESIDENT. There appeal taken previous
to the reading of the journal.
Mr.. BERRIEN. presume that by unanimous consent,
the journal having been read the appeal may be Withdrawn
and the resolution received.
The PRESIDENT. The Chair wishes to understand
what course the Senate intend pursue From the pece
dents which have been read is probable the body may be
under the impression that should meet in legislative ses
sion every morning Is that to be the understanding!
SEVERAL SESAroRs. Yes; it is.
The PRESIDENT The Chair wishes to act IN confor-
nifty with what the understanding OF the Senate The
Chair would feel bound every morning have the galleries
cleared unless there general understanding that when
we meet we meet legislative session, and cannot proceed
TO the consideration Of executive business without motion to
that effect being made and carried that s the understand
inc Of the Senate, the Chair will conform to il.
Mr. BADGER. That has always been The practice Of
the Senate since have been member of the body.
Mr. MILLER. understand that the resolution Of the
Senator from North Carolina received, and lies on the table
The PRESIDENT II sin the control of the Senate I.
will lie on the table If such be their pleasure
Mr. BRIGHT. object to the reception Of the resolution
Mr. FOOTE. suppose the Senator from North Caro-
lima has right to lay his resolution the table, The
Chair decided the other day that any Senator had right to
lay resolution the table.
The PRESIDENT. The practice has been uniform. A
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