Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-07-04

lima support the proposition Of my friend from Eau
,uier, Mr. Scor7.) That was wha, said.
Mr. SCOTT, Of Fauquier. Certainly. The fact is
mt TO no disguised that my proposition does in
yoIvo q surrender. had come down little from the
hah horse on which had originally mounted-not viii
Hry not voluntarily, but had been pulled down. and
il Vas then upon foot that endeavoring to wage
tbs contest beg leave to state that never said wher
introduced that proposition. that it met the concur
renee of my eastern associates. On the contrary,
NOT undertake TO designate the number-whosc supper
of il could not be calculated on.
did say that, according to my belief and had good
grounds for the declaration, it would receive in the ther
Condition Of affairs, liberal, not to say large support
from Eastern members, not choice-it was not nv
as compromise. But, sir, when gentle
men undertake to find in that proposition no more secu
tv for eastern interests and nothing better for the cast
cause than what is to be found in the report of the
committee beg leave TO enter my dissent and as the
matter has been referred TO, if not by the gentleman
from Henry, (Mr MARTINI By the gentleman from Bed
ford (Mr WNGrIELD) beg leave in few words tc
show what conceive 10 be the difference between
them.
Those gentlemen entered upon the field of compro
mise, Well, they compromised with the west BY con
cednc their principle in the house Of delegates ant
thew Compromised with the west again by regulating
our principle in the senate
Mr.. WINGFIELD. viii the gentleman allow me
TO explain that' 1t is very easily explained Ii is true
that The relative majorties in the two houses are moi
the same, but that is compensated for in this way
There is TO be no re-apporonment in the senate The
east are to have continuing majority in the senate ur
to the wear 1863. Well, it thought 10 be only lust
that as this majority was to continue fixed for that
eDg 9Th Of time larger majority should be given in the
house of delegates to compensate the for what they
would gain If the reappor.ionment should take Mace
at the end of ten years. We all know that if re ap
poronment should take place our ma ority in the sen
ate would be diminished and their majority in the house
of delegates be increased.
Mr.. SCOTT was coming 10 that gentleman's de-
fence Of his proposition but must be permitted TO pro
coed and explain tn. proposition according TO nv own
view OF it. say they were in field OF compromise
They compromised with the west BY conceding thcir
principle in the house, and they compromised with the
west byrcpudlatng our principle in the senate. Now
that looks 10 me very much like compromise on one
side How stands my proposition in that rcSpect' NIy
proposition compromised with the west as the report OF
the committee does BY concediDg TO them their princ
pie in the house Of delegates, but compromised with
the east next by concedng TO them their principle in In
senate. Now, | submit to every candid-mnded man
land am that such is the mind Of my worthy fenu
from Bedford il, upon this comparison, there is not
advantage to be found in the proposition which sub
mled over the report Of the committee as far as this
feature is concernedl
Dir. MARTIN, of Henry. Will the gentleman from
Fauquier allow Inc to ask him if he does not regard a
white basis house Of delegates and taxation senate
equivalent to the mixed basis in both houses: And il
he does when he presents the west with white basis
honse Of deieI and taxation senate what compro
mise there is in that proposition?
Mr.. SCOTT. The proposition that am combating
is that the report Of the committee is good for the
east as my proposition, and the gentleman leads oil
upon the scent that there is compromise at all in NJ,
proposition. must call upon the gentleman from Bed
ford to answer the gentleman from Henry upon tina
branch of the subject.
But il is said that there is another feature in the re
al. ol Al
the Reputation of the principle Of the mixed basis ant
that is that the apporlonmcnt of to-day is TO endure
not for ten years the apporlonmen. IL nv PROPOSE
ton to endure but for five years only and il is al
legged that upon arcapportionment in 1862, the rcatv,
conditions OF the eastern and western sections of thu
State will be such that upon the principle Of the suffrage
basis in house and the mixed basis in the other ou
majority in the senate will be brought down below ten
Now, deny that do not believe that upon the taxa
,tion basis the time will come in my day or in my chill
day, when the power in the senate upon that ba
sis will be transferred to the west. On the contrary
my brefis that the completion Of these great work.
of internal improvement, eastern Virginia will increase
both the elements Of population and taxation in IA
10 little short of the increase Of western Virginia ant
is 4 dcluslon to believe that upon tile re-apporton
nent in 1862, which my proposition Proposed the ma
pri,y in the senate would be 10 any serious extent d
ninshcd II mig ht be dimnshed; there is some prob
ability that il would be, but 10 no great extent
Now, my proposition gave majority of fourteen tc
lie east in the senate and majority of but twelve tc
I've west in tho house Of delegates. stated as mat
tr personal to myself, that, far as was concerned
was willing to see that proposition referred 10
mttee, and modified by increasing the number Of the
house of delegates reducing the number of the
ate TO forty eight SO as to give to the west who
PRESENT numerical ma orty Of people the conro
# appointments to be made by the legislative autlor
w. said this erlilcivc of my own opinion merely, ant
undertook to speak for not one individual besides
The proposition was introduced as proposition tina
lad received in competition with the report of the com
ntee the sanction of nearly all of our eastern friends
md had no authority from them to commit them L
he modification which | suggested. II was my owl
iersona matter the expression of my own individual
opinion. So that think my friend from Bedford vii
ec that there is muck more power secured to the cas-
the proposition that focred than will be secured Il
hem in the report OF the committee, and that so far
his question Of protection is concerned, there is nc
,ont of comparison between the two, and think i.
viii find our western friends regard it. IL my iricnt
rom Bedford sees such little difference in the propo
sun. why is it that upon that difference he separates
himself from his eastern friends Why is it that ht
coes not stand here by vote with me, work with Inc
t5ht with me for proposition that will satisfy 10;
goat uxtent his eastern associates.
Mr.. WINGFlELD. | would gladly do it if though
ay good result could come from it, but am satisfied
Hat fit is done, if any alteration is made that h
relative majority Of the two houses is changed, thu
opposition will 60 by the board, and SHALL never
again I think majority of ten in the senate is al
efcctual protection the interests af the east. nl
thre is but little derenc. between this proposition anc
tht proposed by the gentleman from Fauquier, and tht
gentleman himself says he see but little difference
New, if there is but little difference between the two
prspositons he says, and it is evident at this
be carried and his cannot bo carried why will he
cone to the support of this proposition which he
adnits is but slight modification of his own'
ar SCOTT, of Fauquicr. The gentleman misreprc
scs my position altogether. II is not who said there
wal no difference between the two propositions On the
contrary, have been endeavorng tn show that the diff
fernce is great 1t is my friend from Bedford (Alr
WrGFIELp) who pleads that the difference is SO small
Nov, repeat the question to him. think the differ
enc great and therefore cannot 50 to him. He thinks
the difference is small, and why he not come to &C
Bul assure the Conventional assure my friend from
Bedford that it is with view Of influencing his vote
uuon this question finally, that make these remarks
butt is in order that may put myself right before this
Convention. and before the people, to explain when
became in favor of compromse-and to explain how
was made to favor compromising explain how it is
tina, have abated more and more in my demands unit
wa, willing TO take the proposition that defeated
here on Saturday, from no votion of mine, but from
the consideration of those eastern gentlemen who have
been acting with me, and whose opinions have gone far
Their than mine upon this question of compromise.
But there is another difference between this PROPOSE
ton and that presented By me. This proposition fixes
upon 1865 rs the time at which isquesen is be
errcd to the voters of the State DIV proposition fixes
Tha 10