The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1851-02-25
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

Mr.. VAN DYKE asked, but did not receive
sent, to introduce resolution, proposing 10 make
the compensation Of the Chaplain of the House,
(the Rev. r. r. GuRLEY,) for services during. the
last session Of Congress- the same as that received
by the Chaplain of the Senate.
MIR. HOLMES from the Committee on the Lii
brary, asked the consent of the House to report the
joint resolution Of the Senate, providing for the
distribution of additional volume of the Annals
Of Congress. He said that, unless this should be
done, those who have the previous numbers would
have to return them.
Objection was made, and a suspension Of the
rules was not now in order.
FoRTIFIcATIoN ELL.
Tho SPEAKER announced the question before
the House to be the motion Of Mr.. CARrTER, to lay
on the table the motion made by Mr.. BAYLY to re-
consider the vote by which the Fertilization bill
was laid on the table, on Saturday.
Mr.. BAYLY asked for the yeas and nays, which
were ordered. M
Mr.. JONES moved that there be q call of the
House, and demanded the yeas and nays. in order
to give abscntces time to arrive. t
The question was decided in the ncgative-yeas
81, nays 90.
The motion to lay on the table the motion of Mr..
BAYLY to reconsider the vote by which the Fortif-
cation bill was laid the table, was agreed to-
yeas l0l, nays 81.
SO the Fertilization bill is defeated.
THE FIVE MINUTES RULE.
Mr.. BAYLY moved a suspension OF the rules to
enable him to offer resolution to suspend for the
remainder Of the session, the rule which allows
five minutes debate amendments after the gen.
eral discussion on bills ia closed
The House refused to suspend the rules-yeas
100, nays SO.
CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROPRIATION BILL.
On motion of MIR. BAYLY, the House resolved
itself into Committee of the Whole on the state
of the Unon-Mr. BUaT in the chair-and proceed
ed to the consideration of the bill making appro-
priatons for the civil and diplomatic expenses Of
the Government for the year ending June 80,
1852
There being forty three pages of the BILL and
moro than thousand lines, the reading was
dispensed WITH except the first clause, making ap-
preparations for the per diem and mileage Of mem
bcrs and delegates in Congress.
Mr.. BAYLY said that he was not going to de-
tain a committee with speech. He felt il be his
duty to call the attention of the House, and par
ticularly the members of the House who have be-
come such since the adoption Of the five minutes
rule. TO this subject, because he should make an
effort again to- to suspend il; and he wished
TO show that, unless. this rule be suspended, we
cannot pass not onlyall the general appropriation
bills, but will not be able to get through with the
bill now before the committee.
Mr.. CARTIER called the gentleman 10 order on
the ground Of irrelevancy.
The CHAIRMAN overruled the point
Mr.. BAYLY was surprised that his friend should
propose that, on opening the debate on bill, it was
out Of order to make suggcstion to the mode Of
getting it passed. At the last session of Congress-
when 1t Ia known that il was at a very late period
before the House took up the appropriation bills,
tracted session, and when the day OF adjournment
had been fixed, the debate the Civil and Diplo-
matte Appropriation bill was stopped on the six
teenth OF August, and did not pass until the
twenty seventh OF that month, making eleven
days from the time the debate terminated until
the bill was passed, under the operation of the five
minutes rule. And his recollection was, from the
period OF the adoption of the five minutes rule to
this time, we never got through with the FIVE min
utes debates in lcss than ten twelve days. With
regard to the Navy bill. he knew that the gentle
man from Ohio. (Mr. vIsTos,) who was con-
stantly appealing to the House, he (Mr. b.
was now, could not get it through in less than
eight days under the five minutes rule. So with
the Army bill. After general debate has been
stopped, It has uniformly taken four or five days TO
pass the bill under the five minutes rule The
House must, therefore, see that unless the five min
utes rule be suspended it will be utterly impossible
TO pass these bills. After this statement, gentle
men who pertinaciously insist on this rule will
make themselves responsible 10 the country for the
defeat Of these bills and for special session Of
Congress, which will be inevitable. II should be
known to all gentlemen that the five minutes rule
was one of recent origin. During many years It