Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1851-05-13

w Iouiu the position ul
man from boteour' in connection with his argument on
inc SUBJECT OF internal improvements He (Ar WiSe) had
commended for the suffrage basis only because it was
right in principle but because il was for the interest of The
Eas-and now he appealed the members from the Enst 10
come 10 the rescue. He thought that the gentleman from
po'eot was Hcng against the interests Of the Ncst IN
Young against this restriction. Hc know that II this
restriction De adopted, the delegates from Richmond would
not dare to vote for this mixed basis ; son.
mr. ANDERSON said that he responsible TO hin consti
uents alone, and the gentleman had no r, TO conc &C.
tween him and his duty.
MI WISE also referred the course OF Mr. beae as not
cohsonant with the interest Of his constituents
Mr. bEALE hoped the gentleman would allow him to pur-
sue MS own course, TO the best Of his Judgment.
Mr. WISE had no idea of interfering between gentlemen
a"o 'her constltuens-bu the positions of The gentlemen
IRON boetonr and Wesniocand subjects OF fair AMI
madverson Mr. w. appealed the gentleman from West
moreand TO unite with him adopting this ricon now
in Committee of the Whole the 5es! time and ace
defeat The system of ogroIIing which, his argument
must virtually lead the gentleman from Botcour Mr..
referred 10 the vast difference in the assessed value Of
large country estates and small town lots whose fictitious
wealth gave an undue influence and power towns and
cies he also referred the constitutions in Ohio, and
olher States, where an exception had been made against
Cincinnati and other cities. He 70: The rural popu-
| lation in this struggle with the cities
Mr JEFF I. MARTIN sad if it correct that property
should form principle of representation he should go Tor
giving weight to property wherever il exists check may
be put undue taxation by constitutional provisions with
out Incorporating the restriction the basis of representa-
,lon He should go for giving full weight population, this
side well the other side Of the muuntGnsand the
committee had to-day decided give weight 10 property
he should also go for giving full weight property in the
cities, we'll as in the country The White Basis PROPOSE
tion sufficiently restricted the cities.
Dir claiborne had promised his constituents allow
Richmond not than three delegates and he should
accordingly. His constituents much Alarmed on the
subject OF internal improvements Why is not this the pro-
per time adopt this estriconl lie was party
rangenen designating another time and place for its adop
lion.
Mr.. JAcoD did think that internal improvements had
anything do with this question He saw why
the people Of the cities should have the weight as
the people Of the country They yrtuous and
intelligent. When city very large magnitude
and wealth, such New York, Philadelphia, &c, il
proper 10 adopt observation-disclosures the Identity OF inter
makes the population Of large cities dangerous But
have now large cities in Virginia. md this restriction is
necessary He thought however the question
very Important as he thought mixed basis constitution
could last long BY proposition ~ his city Whecing was
deprived OF one member TO which she was entitled Even
though the delegates from Richmond had This morning voted
for this exclusion OF Wheeling he should still vote against
! the proposed restriction
Mr.. CARLILE thought this the time fox the rcstric
on which he should cordially sustan Under the mixed
basis he thought the Cities in their o. population
and wealth. would have four delegates 10 one they wnld
have under the white basis Hc opposed giving this
undue power cities.
Mr.. ARMSTRONG forced 10 believe tina, there
principle in government and that gentlemen here dis
posed 10 sink their constituents below the rest Of mankind"
BY proposition A. Chesterfield, with smaller taxation AMI
very little larger population than Henrco has delegates
while Henrico has only A, also gives delegates
Richmond while she is justly entitled fee He called
attention OF delegates from Richmond and HcnTc) 10 these
! facts.
Mr. DAvIs-The delegates from the rnc,ropc,au district
have always had curious aud difficult Dele
gates from other districts think they understand
interests of this district better than We doand begin TO
think that we had better surrender The whole trust TO their
hands in reply Mr. Ferguson who had charged tie dele
CATION from this district with robbng Richmond OF one dele
gate Mr. Davis referred 10 what Mr.. Ferguson had niimn
led he would do in the Richmond delegation voted for
his favorc measure the white basis Equality should be
adopted, on this question: as on the white basis The dre-
gnes from this district repealed the idea that they had
done all their duty in protecting the interests o! their con-
stituens.
Mr. Ronr G. Scorr had hoped to get Ihc aid % sorc Of
these gentlemen from the West in giving Richmond her
full representation since tho vote or Richmond n
change had come them He hoped to proposition
passed Just is in committee. and then the
venon where h. would do all to the appoonnent
for the interests ohis people Gentlemen had protested great
love for Richmond and yet under the white basis they are
for "robbns Richmond of one member.
Mr. WALLACE Of Petersburg should against the pro-
position of MIR. Bolts because it did materially change
proposition A-and against Mr. CIainornes restriction
because under the present circumstances OF the cities was
unjust 10 thcm Moreover he should against these and
all other amendments because they calculated 10 defeat
A. which was the only mixed basis measure which could now
be adopted
Mr. Boris had offered his amendment no, 10 defeat promo
sltlon A. but to counteract the restriction moved by 3r
Claiborne.
Mr. CLAInonss had done nothing to distur! the cquanni
~ Of the people of Richmond He should vote TO refer po-
position \ to the Convention
/ MIR, ANDERSON replied 10 the remarks of 11r Wise He
conened that his constituents would applaud him for Civ
ing the cities the number Of delegates 10 which they rc
| entitled insead OF giving To the largest slave holding
countless larger number ofdeeaa,c than ev are fairly cr,
tied to- Already three of the cities had deprived Of one
no
friction them. He thought that ii this restriction be not
adopted large number of the eastern members would 20
for defeating this mixed basis proposition He regarded p
position a, as perfect bride, which had been
bought up. He for making i, rs strong ms it could be
under the mixed basis principle and for breaking up
Mr. SrANAnp defended the dcIpa tiun from
Richmond against the attempt made convict them o want
of fidelity the interests Of their constituents Gentlemen
had voted against propositions moved by that detention
and yet they blame for standing III TO the
ess of our constituents They wis! even 10 restrict Rich
mond smaller number than she would be entitled TO IN.
der the white basis. All this because the people of Rich
mond have had tic rmness sustain the true Republican
principle, the mixed basis For months we have been sry
ing carry the principle Of the mixed basis-and we a
succeeded in adopting it, in connection with an appor-
tionmen 10 which, he must say lie saw objections The
restriction upon cities should be brought up now as it
was calculated cmbarrass the measure before us us
mike step and act this measure and the resrc
ton cities may be arranged hereafter
Mr. WISE said the gentleman (ar Stanard talks OF leay-
ing it TO the Convention TO fix the details Now he 1r.
W. always thought that the Committee was the proper
place details. He glad 10 see the oen eman
had recovered from MS late sickness anxiety of mind
and had in, with his usual air The gentleman seemed
afraid to wait, lest the galleries be talked again
Mr. STASARp said that, though sick he was never sad
He had abiding confidence, fully justified by the result
that the people of Richmond in spite Of the talking the
galleries. would be true 10 the principles they had avowed
Mr. kSorE said his feelings must undergo great change
before he could vote to build constitution on the mixed ba
Sis He should vote for Mr. Bolts amendment bu. not for
Mr. Claibornes restriction the cities although he did
think just that they should be represented according
the increase of their weah5rnught as from the West
and elsewhere. le was unwilling give the excess to the
surrounding rural districts.
Mr. FERoUsoS explained that the proposition of Mr. Scott
OF F., distributed any excess OF the population and taxation
OF cities among the same section OF the Sraewhe by MI
Clabones proposition said was distributed the
whole State
Mr. ksoTE thought il great wrong that the money OF the
West should be brought TO increase the power other
tons OF the State
Mr. kIvEs doubted much whether the apporonment
could DC carried in its prescn shape-and he thought its
mics saw it, II the object OF NJ Claiborne be TO maze
more acceptable TO ITS friends, he should so for Mr. Ca
bones restriction If It's object was, by paramen ary
mannvre to defea. A. he '. r. should 60 agains, The
amendment AS the npprtoancat is objectionable III us
ameno TIN slch way make accountable gentle