The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-03-02

Hsmlin, Houston Hunter, King Ma.on Norton, Norris
The bill VAS HJss thsn Sturgeon rurns' and
Mr.. JoHr DAVIS explained the BILL and stated that
country, which amounted to two millions three
hundred thousand dollars 1t contained sppropria.
tions for mprovem the and lakes and
most OF them apply to works already commenced and
out Of repair.
Mr. CLEMENS moved an am. udmsnt restricting the
appropriation for the improvement Of the Tennessee
rver 70 that part Of the river between chstanooshss
Mr. Foorr advocated the amendment 1t improved
the nat onality of the bill
Mr.. BELL opposed the restriction
Mr.. CLEMENS said that the money might as we'll be
brown into the river as to apply to the removal Of
Muscle Shoals.
Mr. FooTE and Mr. BELL continued the debate on
the subject OF Muscle Shoals
Mr. BRI CHIT said there were now in the bill several
priatons for works OF national character but
whose object to enhance the value of private
perty. Unless these stricken out he would not
vote for the bill lie would not vote for it, II any ap
Rrksnss. or fiino. r. r1sr, M s However, much he might
fael disposed to vote for such improvements
still there was principle which would govern his
vote. There estimates for surveys Of many
of the items on the bill and unless tie bill
rowed down to national works and confined to those
for which estimates had been sent in he would move
Mr.. HAmLrr said II any bills were lost for want Of
time, the responsibility would not be on the Senate
1t was solemn mockery upon legislation to keep tho
Appropriation bills from the Senate till the last
ments Of the sion. The Civil and Diploma ito bill
IL in the House yet and the Army bill has just been
laid en- the table lie not in the minority on tho
committee reporting this bill He had tried t. have it
amended in committee but failed The bill In its pre-
sent shape, had Objectionable features, which II not
changed, would compel him to vote against 1t The
bill appropriated nearly twenty feur hundred
dollars Of which hundred and nine thousand
for the Atlantic coast. 1t contained eighty eight
Of which were never surveyed and for which esti-
mates were furnished appropriations asked the
government He would not vote for the bill II these
were retained In it. He would, at proper time,
to strike out the appropriations for tho nese Hi
nos, Arkansas and Rio Grsnce rivers
Mr. CLAY said there different to defeat the
bill among others to vote 1t down and to amend 1t
to make it Objectionable to its own friends He
called all friends of the bill to sta nd firm and with
him vote down all amendments He examined the
question OF nationality in such works aud maintained
that In of the great western waters
denied moreover would in time Insist upon, an d by
its own power will take these improvements.
Mr.. BUTLER supposed tho bill was to pass and that
Mr.. Clay aware of it, from count, other
means. He was asked what had been done for this
Valley Of the Mississippi He answered everything.
The Nile was wcrshippcd god because of the fer
tty it gave the soil The Mississippi itself was an
immense advantage to the States upon it. There
hardly day that they were not called upon to vote
land by millions Of acres to the States for railroads
and canals. Those States bordering the Mississippi
Valley had received the whole bulk OF the public anas
OF any value. He then at length opposed the bill
Mr. DouGLAs would vote for the bill II its appro-
priations reduced 60 those works which est
the improvement OF the Ohio aud its natural tribu.
tariee There should be responsibility for this
vast appr oprtatton. The administration asked for
little over enc million and this bill appropriated
nearly two and half millions. If these extra ap.
preparations were not stricken from the bill he would
Mr.. BoErANp followed and quoted General Jackson
and Mr.. Calhoun as authorities for works of internal
improvement. which were not more national than
those in this bill
Mr.. DAWSON detailed the condition of the Treasury,
and stated that at the end OF the fiscal year
the debt OF the United States would bs hundred
millions OF dollars At this late day
bill which had been dead since 1874, is to be gsva
confusion OF parties in this question lie cited several
items in the bill as going far beyond anything known
osrx swsy. onnose S s rhe no
sidered the reason why this appropriation bill was
ceved now with such favor that the Presidential
MIR. Cass-Mr. President there 1. not as much noise
and confusion this occasion there another
memorable one-QaughteD but hope to BIZ better
understood now than was then. He hsd been ehal.
lenged by administration paper in this city
press his views this subject In terms which imply
that his views had been concealed lie would be fool
to attempt to conceal his opinions this subject For
six yesrs he was Secretary War under Gen jackson
improvements submitted TO Congress during that
time and in the session of 1851 ne had voted fer
River and Harbor bill lie did not attend the Chicago
Convention, and this was considered ss another
evidence OF coDceament. He was asked to 90
to that convention, and nothing else. lie did
not 90 to the convention. aud that was ALL
lie wn not asked fer his opinious, and he
did not give them. The why he did not
10 to the Chicago ConventIon was tnat he
considered IL a whis scheme TO break down Col Polk
and his administration. As to the charge OF noise
and confusion there was not one word of truth In IT,
and IS TO his views this subject they stated In
the message OF Gen jackson, In 1894 II. opposed
to roads and canals The improvement OF hsrbors
matter within the discretion OF state Legsatures
and no rivers ought to be improved about a port OF
entry. lie commented upon Mr. calhoun's policy,
slways had done, on the Baltimore platform IL was
well known that those resolutions we're prepared by
slss Wright, and yet Mr. Wright had voted repeatedly
for the river and harbor bills lie would vote for re-
ducinr tho appropriations In the bill to tho estimates
iurni'hed by the departments, and for such works
hsd been surveyed and recomme ded.
Mr. EwiSo followed iu support Of the bill a. II is
Col Jrff. DAVIS replied.
The Senate then took recess TIL sir o'clock
KossrrH AND nis eomrAsioNs-sniTsoMAN issrirrrios
THs ARMY BILL.
The sepete having re. assem- bled,
Mr. Fo0rF laid the table resolutiou, calling for
the cofrsspondence between the United States and
Turkey, relative to Kossuth and his com panions Be-
ipg otjscted 10, Il was laid over.
The CHAfR, by consent, laid before the Senate the
report of the secretary Of the smitbsenlan Insttu
tiou. Referred to the Priping COMMITTEES.
The Amy bin was taken up and referred.
RESOLUTION n. HfrcuIEs HEIIrr.
The Joint resolution fer the relief Of Mr.. Ritchs
wa. taken up and read fret time.
Mr. BsDcsR moved a second reading, with ayiew TO
itr reference.
Mr. Tt RSEY objected
Mr DickissoS stked II majority could not over
The caan .sid ,hs rules forbid bill being read
Mr. TuRSrY insisted on hi, objection
wARRArIs.
The joint resolution making land warrants assigna
Bile, the table and the CnuR said II there was
objection, II would be put upon It's passage.
Col JEFr. DAVIS objected.
Mr.. CIENESs moved to postpone the River and Hsr-
bot bill in order to take up the joint resolution.
Gel. JrTT. DAVIS then withdrew his objection
MIR. WALAtR renewed the objection.
HwrHs HsERoRs
Mr.. CLtNENs Eoved TO lay the River and Isrbor
bill ON the table Lsst by yeas Is, nays 20.
1he question pending was on Mr.. CLrIENs' amend
merit
Mr.. BoSLaSp commenced q speech in favor Of the
bill
Mr. CLi,IrNs raised point Of order. lie conts nded
that IL was not proper, uhsn sn amendment was
pending 80 discuss the general mel ts OF the bill.
DEBATE sprapg up snd the discussion was oontnu-
ed for nearly an nour on the point OF order.
Mr. BonLssD finally ssid he would postpone his re-
marks
The amer dment vas then sdopted-Yeas y. nays %
Mr. BoRtasp again addressed the Senate, aud con
tended that true demosrstc doctrine 70 improve
rivers and barbort.
Mr. JIrr. DAVIS replied.
Mr. UuNtER said--ft I, obviou, that this bill is 20 be
debated a night. know IT Ia useless to move to lay
N the table; but hops by general consent IL will