The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1851-03-25

PROPOSITIONS.
Mr. BRADBURY Me Prssident--
Mr. EWING hope IL viii not be discussed II is
PkkEsDNT is bs O. cba %
a,ny to prevent any senator from Offering amendments
Although the phraseoogy OF the proposition is in
degree changed yet il appears to the Chair be sub
stance the same but as il may not be considered by
the Senaie the Char will have both amendments read
and leave to the Senate to say whether il will be
Mr. BRADBURY. May ! beg leave to offer i sint,r
word OF explanation? offered this because desired to
offer II, and not with view Of taking up any time.
Mr.; FOOrE The question is open now Il is sub
Mr. BRADBURY The disrsaee j understand, is
Mr. HALE Order! a = 't'#-4~t
The PRESIDENT, The senator will wait I'LL the
Char states The question The Char stated ,a, TO his
mind The proposition Submitted was the same sub
stanally with that which was rejected but, inasnuch
as there may be difference OF opinion regard il, he
will leave il TO the Senate to say whether can be re.
ceved Il will therefore be for them to decide whether
Inc amendment can be received in conformity with the
rule which Preclales lhe offering Of similar amendmen,
10 the Senate y will OF course be in order offer
detsans the difference between HE two propositions TO
be his lhe hrst amendment required that all appropa
tons should be deducted from the revenues before any
thing was TO be taken for the purposes Of this BILL This
amendment requires that only that portion OF the ex
Pendi,nTes shall be taken that required carry
laws or pay private debts, there being large
class Of expenditures not requisite to meet existing
up no more time than what is necessary and that offer
the amendment because il seemed TO be desired by Con
The PRESIDENT. The Chair having submitted the
question OF order 10 the Senate he will not withdraw it,
although, upon critical examination he discovers
ma mere s some difference in regard 70 the manner in
which the appropriations TO be withheld
Mr.. iBORLAND | desire to express the views that
entertain suppose is not order discuss the sub
lect 81 me amendment but il is proper to discuss the
| The PRESIDENT |, is in order simply to discuss
whether il Is an an amendment precisely similar to that
which has heretofore been rejected. s#s
MI BORLAND. think il Is precisely similar, because
its effect will be precisely the That my opinion
and think it's effect will be to render the bill altogether
imperative Tor the purpose for which the bill proposed
10 be passed. think if the bill be passed with this
amendment, il will amount. IN fact. than 80
much blank paper IN relation to the object tina, be
accomplished. That view induces me 10 think i, is
The PRESIDENT The senator cannot discuss the
amendment-only the question whether il is similar to
the amendment which has been rejected.
Mr. BORLAND. The view that have taken of it
induces me TO think they are precisely alike.
auves, announcing that the House had passed Senate bills
No. PSI and No. 4o3-an limit the liability of ship
owneTs and for other purposes and an act 10 amend an
act allowing compensation 10 members of the Senate and
members OF the House Of Representatives and also ha,
they had adopted resolution to authorize the
MISSION to the Senate OF House bill No 297, making ap
propriatoDs Tor light houses, light boats buoys, &C.,
and providing for the erection and establishment of the
| same 3 f. hatf a.5. sE.a.2 #.a - saHft s1 sa..E
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amendment as proposed by the senator from Maine, Mr.
BRADBuRY] The question is whether il is the same,
q sePaa'e ana distinct proposition II be the same,
the Senate cannot receive il; if II involves sepa-
rate and distinct principle, the Senate and will
receive IT. The original proposition OF the senator
from Maine provided for the payment out of the ma
ional treasury OF all the appropriations ordinary and
extraordinary as understand II, and if any
naned. The residue was 70 be applied in payment OF the
appropriations made in this bill The proposition, he
now offers II, provides that r the ordinary expenditures
OF the government shall be paid then the extraordinary
expenditures OF The TO be superseded and
Tue excess applied to the execHtion OF this law. Ii is
consequently separate and distinct pToposonlust the
kind OF proposition that wish 10 getat: FIRST appro
PIRATE the public money many OF the appropria
ions provided for in this bil which are really national
IN their characer-,he money shall be applied for such
objects before is applied for the steam lines, dry docks
and other appropriations local in their character think
Is the most important principle that have had pre-
sented TO since commenced the discussion of this
measure. shall vote for IL, and hope sincerely that il
Mr. FOOTE feel the strong necessity Of getting TO
vote upon the general merits OF this bill, should
feel inclined TO give my views OF the subject But strong
as that necessys do not think there any prospect OF
our dong so even If we were to sill here till midnight
will not, however throw any mpedimen,s in the way Of
the bill.
l. The PRESIDENT The Chair is satisfied that he was
mistaken in relation 10 the last clause of the amendment
but inasmuch as he has submitted the Senate say
whether i shall or shall not be received the question
Mr.. BERRIEN. Upon tina, question ask the yeas
and nays.
Mr.. CLAY. Is the question upon the reception the
adoption of the amendment
The PRESIDENT. Upon the reception OF The amend |
men upon The ground that III not the same the |
amendment which has been rejected
Mr.. CLAY. Is this the amendment offered upon the |
suggestion OF the senator from Michigan. [Mr. Cas- n
The PRESIDENT Tha, is the amendment The /
question "a simply tins for the Senate to decide whehar
is idenically and substa ntiay the amendment
that was just now rejected If So cannot be received
II it s not II the duty OF the Senate to receive it,
is the right OF any senator 10 offer any mendmeni
The question being then taken upon sustaining The de-
eison of The Char that the amendment order
u was not sostained-yeas "a, nays 25--as follows
YEAs-Nessrs Beuien. Bradbury, Bright Css. Clemens,
DAVIS OF Mississipp, Dawson Dickinson, Dewns Feoh
Foote Hamlin, Houston, Honter King Mason, Morton,
Norris, lshet. Rusk Sou 4, Sturgeon, Turney Wbtcomb
and Yuee--23
NAyS--Mcssrs. Badger, Bell, Borand, Clarke Clay
Cooper Davis OF Massachusetts, Dodge Of Wisconsin,,
Dodge OF Iowa. Douglas, Ewing, Greene, Hale, jones'
Mangum, Miller, Phelps. Pratt, Seward, Shields, Smith,
Spruance, Uphan, md Wacs-2 SKI
The reading Of the anne ndmeni was then called for and
il was read AZ follows:
And hereby expressly provided that the appropra
on in this bill contained shan take effect pom,
the expenditure of only such surplus shall
Ing hom the public revenues the necessary to meet
the appropriations that have been ss.i he made by
Congress TO execute existing laws and private
claims ]" ..t' -
Mr. EWING. There never was an amendment more
beautifully devised effective destroy the bill
than s this amendment of the frsm Michiga an
tMr CAss1 We have the pretty worm of Nilus here
oiessed friend OF the bill but has upon the very face
OF IT. you will examine closely certain destruction
to the b even II should pass both houses of Cong ress
as i is possible to conceive Of.