The New York herald., 1851-11-01

| IN OuDd, tuerc Wofo oOOut one QuQ0Ye0 and 6fty
men, or forces, on board the steamer when she ar
rived at Nassau; perhaps one hundred and nfty K
one hundred and eighty; these men we're on shore
when they received news Of Lopez's defeat they
bad been landed and ensamped on shore previously
they were left there, except twenty or thirty, be-
cause they were disbanded, and were disbanded be-
cause they heard of Lopezs defeat the vessel went
| 10 St. Johns river to land transportatio there
were fwo mountain howzers on board they we're
| not ready for service; they were merely laid In
trunneis; they might have been used almost every
vessel carries one or two pieces. (Witness declines
answering question) There was o small amount
OF provisions put on board at Jacksonville, before
going to Thunderbolt; one barrel of pork, eight OF
ten barrels OF bread, and q small amount of stores
Cross examined-l was instructed to a,t in con.
nection with MIR. Lama, of Savannah; Gen. Lopez
from Gen. Lopez, in which witness directed to
obey such Instructions he Vllaverde) might give
him witness had had verbal interviews andinstruc-
tons Fl ON Gen. Lopez; the last interview be had
with Gen. Lopez was in Philadelphia, year ago
last August he teiegraphed TO witness to come over
to New York, and then he made the arrangements
relative to congregating, &C.. nothing was then
said about the steamer Pampero she was not then
heard Of; had not, at that time, any authority
from Gen. Lopez, personally, to go on board the
Pampero she was not then thought of, and had
not been purchased; this interview at Philadelphia
the last personal interview ever had with Gen.
Lopez; he Immediately went to New Orleans, and
all witness's communications since have been by
letter witness raised the men to 20 in the Pampero
by virtue Of an arrangement then made at Phila-
delpbia with Lopez it was a continual arrange
ment; witness did net then know what vessel they
would 60 on; his authority from Gen. Lopez
was to have his men Ieai iy to 60 at any time
when concert of action was necessary; his
men always have been ready ever since, and
have made two or three attempts TO get Off
which have failed within the last year this mat
ter has always been allotted to different persons
Gen. Gonzales had the direction Of the south
western movement, and witnesss orders came
through him previous to this last affair I; wit
ness states that the command of the forces on
beard the vessel, was not only given to him by
General Lopez, but also by Mr.. Segur dis
Iute arose in Savannah, in reference to wrestling
the commsnd from witness, and giving him a
lieutenant coloDelcy, which was settled by Mr..
Sogur giving him the command Of the forces !;
but bis instructions and authority were derived
from General Lopez entirely, as the commanding
officer; he was the peroa who had the sole
right to give all orders and directions Mr..
Sugar claimed to have right to give orders and
di ections, which witness declined to recognise !;
all persons who had anythiy to do with the emil
grants derived their authority from General
Lopez himself; no other person had any autho-
riiy in the United States except his authorized
agents witness only knew two agents, they were
General Gonzales and Mr.. Lama witness states
that, in the first place, when he met General
Lopez in New York, the forces were to be raised
In Philadelphia afterwards ii was put of, and
witness anne TO Florida, and he commenced again
with him through General Gonzales; it was rot
intended to have any military organization
within the United States it not tote nded to
be an armed expedition when they should arrive in
Cuba; witness said they were going there to free
the Cubars, class of men who had not the cou-
rage TO strike for themselves.
John Thompson, a citizen Of Jacksonville,
sworn. His evidence was limited, and not mate
rial. Witness states he saw the Pam pero when
she arrived a. Jacksonville she had dag flying
it was red. white, and blue, with star on it;
the Gag was flying at her main topm ist it was
10 national flag that witness knew of; il may
k,r L.. -.
man, and knows the fags of different nations.
John g: Hemming, citizen of jacksonville,
sSorn-Witress saw the Pampero when she first
came into jacksonville /; he subsequently, conversod
with the captain (.ewis), who told him, in answer
to an isquiry, that the Psnpero had cone from
Cuba; the captain told witness about the Lopez
exredision-how they landed, and got aground; did
not tell him anything about the object OF the vessel
coming into the 81. Johns river passengers went
aboard Of the vessel at Jacksonville probably one
burdTtd men there was something pat on board
Of that vessel wbi there there was merch andise
pat en board, but witness did lot know where IL
~as destined; three or four ttrces went on board
berrels Of bread and hour were put on board for
the Use Of the vessel; these provisions were col
lecttd and subscribed some money was coilecte TO
psy he board Of some persons who went on board
the steamer; they we're young men who had been
there boarding; were without money, and wished
70 so away: the ii.Gucement for collecting money
FOR tie board that there were few mere loter-
eIs about than there was sny need Of; the object
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saw no arms put on board; side arms were carried
on board there was one box Of arms opened and
used, witness believes to drill with; saw the men
going 20 crll and returning the arms were Ysuger
rifles and nercan rifles should think there we're
twelve or sixteen stand Of arms; there was gene
raj understanding when the boat arrived, VIII ere she
was from and where bound she was not advertised
IN any Newspaper or handbds as to her being bound
TO any port Of the United States; there never was
a steamer left that port whose destination was
more perfectly understood than was the Pampero;
the sailing master Of the Pampero told witness
what she bad been about and where she was going.
(Tbe District Attorney asked witness what tho
sailing master told witness The claimants coun-
sci obj cts TO the question. Question admitted, sub
jeot to exception) Sailing master told witness
that the vessel was bound to Cuba, first proceeding
by the inland route to Savannah, aud tben,e to
Cuba there was some military organization among
tho men | heard some Of the N addreE5ed as cap
taiDs, lieuteDsnts, and beard one of the captains
Addressing one Of them as colonel the colonel was
Colonel Titus the mepey that was collected was
for the object Of sen ling these men TO Cuba wit
ness tbitks IL the men had been engaged in any
other business than that they were engaged ia
they would not have got dollar the money would
awsy; If they had been going to Philadelphia or
New York, witness does not believe anything would
have been received
UNDER FIRST LIBEL.
AdjutautJ otn Hopkins Of the jacksonville Batta-
lion, sworn-Q Tue STONED by lbellsnt.-Do you knew
the vesel called the Pamperol A. do.
O. What is her burth6nl A. About $50 tons.
q By whom was she commasdedl A. By Cap
tain lie wis.
@ When did you 6rst see herl A. Saw her at
jacksonville, on the lst Of September last.
q. Did you learn where said vessel was front
A learned ske was from Cuba.
q From shom did you learn thisl Question
Objected to by defence, as elciting merely hearsay
testimony)
q Did you know how long since the vessel lef.
Cubal A. / did not.
q Did you learn from the captain or other OFF,
Ger Of the vessel that she was from Cubal A. IL
was the general undt did not learn direct
q. Did you learn nom the captain the object Of
tie, vessel in coming in the river 81. John'sl
A. Did net.
Q. did you learn from the captain or other prin-
cital tfceI OF the boat, where IL was intended to
lsDa Der freight, whst then TO be the desti-
ration OF the vessel A. learned that she was 10
land her freight in Cuba and that her destination
was Cuba.
@ Did you take passage on said ship YOURSELF