The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-04-03

ALBANY, April < l3ol.
coMrLErIos OF THE cAsALs-rHr QUESTION OF ORDER,
DIR o. ALLEN, from the Canal Committee to which
referred the Canal bill for amendment to be reported
forthwith. reported the blu complete.
Mr. ELpERKlN asked If reports Of committees were in
order
The Chairman. Mr., BRcGs, decided that nasmuch as
the committee instructed to report forthwith the
report was In order
Mr. LEROY appealed from the decision Of the Chair
and stated that under joint rule under the
order Of the third reading Of bills.
Mr. EIpERxS called reading of the joint rules
Mr.. BuRRoucHs insisted that the decision Of the
Chairman correct IL proper for the committee
to report. under tho circumstances, at any time
Mr.. o. ALLEN and Mr.. SEVERANCE took the same view
and the decision Of the Chair was sustained and the
port received.
THIRD READING RsLIs-rHE CANAL BILL. Erc
The special order being the third reading Of bills the
law provide for the completion Of the Erie Canal
nrgement and Of the Genesee Valley and Black River
Canals, were taken up.
Mr.. LEROY called for the reading Of the amendments
After they read he contended that there but
amendment read at the time the motion rccommit
made; but now II appears that there two
three amendments made lie appealed to the Clerk
say If there was more than one amendment proposed
The CLERK said there but amendment read by
him.
Mr. O. ALLEN said that notwithstanding there was but
one amendment read by the Clerk. all the amendments
read by him OR. Al in his place.
Mr. LEROY insisted that the House did not understand,
when ii voted to recommit that than the amend
mcnt read was to be made lie moved to rccommit the
bill with instructions to the committee to report the
substitute offered by him. in substance follows =
Authorizing loan Of eight millions Of dollars By in
stalments Of two millioss II dollars year, for
four years laying tax for the payment Of interest and
the reimbursement If the principal The act /, be sub
mtcd to the people. provided by the constitution.
Mr. Leroy said apparent that the passage of this
bill forcgonc conclusion and 1t forced the
minority at this time to enter their protest after udg
mcnt had been given. lie alluded to the opinions Of
learned legal men which had been auced and said that
the opponents Of the bill had been refused the opinion Of
the Attorney General lie not opposed to any in
ternal improvement IL II pursued constitutional
grounds lie proceeded At length TO discuss the
question Of the constitutionality Of she bill
Mr.. JASE followed Mr. Leroy and tosk grounl against
the bin account Il his belief that II uneonstitu
tional. and in direct opposition to the acknowledged
principles inculcated by that sacred obligation lie
satisfied that the bin was 10 be passed and he only lie
sired 10 place himselfin proper light before the pu5lc.
in explanation Of the vote he should give against the
bin
Mr. woosrrn opposed the bill believing that the scnti-
mcnts Of his constituents in opposition TO the
ton of any debt and nc looked upon the bill un
constitutional lie was sorry hc was forced 70 dispute
the opinions OF OF the most celebrated ursts in the
country-John g. Spencer. Esq. Yet he would attempt
to exhibit the utter failacy II the ground taken by him
In discussing The constuonay of the bill before the
House lie then proceeded at length in sustaining the
position assumed 10y him and arguing the point ~ to it,
unconstitutianality Mr. Wooster in concluding his re-
marks referred to the pursued by Mr. burroughs
in fayorng the passage q this bill lie had always re-
coDized him the captain Of the democratic forces
hut in this instance he had deserted the ncknowscd
doctrines Of his party anl joined himself with the adj
yocaics of whig measures and principles IL Doomed
this course NJ hat remarkable aud found II difficult
10 reconcile IL with the former conduct " this gentleman
lie hoped TO hear from the gentleman from Orleans on
this question.
Ierkimer remarked that he had hoped this bill would
not be considered party aud in this belief he
had prclar red himself 10 address the House the merits
q, the bill regarded its Importance TO the state at
large The gentleman from licrkmer however, had seen
tit 10 make certain alluions which he considered
traofdnary that he could not quietly allow ticm TO
unnotic,d Mr. burroughs then proceeded In tone Of
deep reply to the charge which had been pre-
fcrred lie alluded TO the county of erkimer being
lehi Ia. of
his position y citing the objections originally made by
her people To the construction Of the Erie canal and To
railroads the ground that Il might iniurc hcr tavern
keepers. That county had always assumed ~ b. much
than he was entitled 10 h.. and hnd her
representative assuming To he the mouth piece Of the 10.
mocrac Iary-the democratic thnndebpit that was TO
annililate linn r ID lie begged that gcnsleinan to
understand that II not the fret time iersimer coun-
rs had attempted to force herself through her reprsen
tntyc before the public the cxpouncr II certain doc
trnes She had been prolific in thc production 81 such
and had become very well known TO the State at
lnrr MIR n procccdc in this strain Of bitter irony un-
I'll the hour for recess.
The House then suspended business till four o'clock
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Upon rc-asesmbling Mr. RraRouGlts proceeded with
His fcmarks. aud discussed the merits o the bill It,
namely: II Il constitutional, l. II expcdicnt9 Il II
necessary lie examined each separately first H. IL
constuona, lie conendcd that u was, and went on 10
illustrate what the definition ~ n debt. by stating
that whenever drafted note whenever h ac-
knovdgcd value received for which he agreed 10 pay
certain sum- that he considered II the contracting u
dta but IL q man goes on expedition to California
70 dig gold and to refund the who furnishes
the to go there, II the expedition proves proa
BILE then there y no debt contracted There IL
tain obligation acknowledged. II l. mere agreement
A. to the next qucStion-is u expcdcnt'-Ir. H. cited
FRI statistics many facts to show that the enlargement
would greatly advance public convenience. AMI the
chance paying the debt woud be greatly ncreas
ed In regard 20 the Necessity he pointed TO the present
capacity ~ the canal 10 compete with railroads AMI meet
the demands of the far West well ~ the Western pnr
ticn a the State. Mr. u. spoke about two hours and
concluded ~ saying he hoped this mcasure would not
e nrde party question alluded To the position he
occupied politically.
Mr. woosrER replied. briefly. 10 the remarks of Mr. "
Mr. MaUrIcE obtained the hoor hut without speaking
the question. moved 10 adjourn.