The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-10-10

q Edward Dram.
coyxr or OYER AND TERsINER, ESSEX COUNTY, n. J.
Bssere The Honorable Henry w. aresa. Chief Justice
snd hsssrs. Hainss Davis, crsul, Andrus, and King
THvssoAy, october s-Ehsabsth Harkin recalled
when witness spoke Of msrgsrets WALK over the
shs said Erum told her he married to girl in New
forti that she bad 500, and that shs half
mossy to take her Of Newark she said she did mo-
want any to take her where she going; by sh
shs might 90 to hi or where she liked as b. dia moi
care; she prayed that he might have days lucl
IN his life he said that he never had much luck and
didn't expect to- he then turned and left herr she
told him that he had led her sstray in ths beginning
her days and that she too good to he led asrAy BY
him. that her folks disgraced by her ruin (rnis
witnesses testimony the evidence
Bridget Farley and did not materially differ from that
elicfed her examination yesterday, except on her
being questioned by the Court whether she
knife In Msrgaret's hand when she went out the
evening of fourth August Witness replied that
che saw handle knife but did not see thu blade
wtaees did not mention thing about IL to Margaret
about half an hour before tea when she said the
she going TO kill Drum THE District Attorney here
asked the witness whether not Margaret quick in
temper, or had any difficulty with hostier who was ia
of noEel Witness did not think anything more about
having the handle of the knife but after the
murder did think about it
Charles w. Tucker examined 1T was the second time
AFTER the watchman went away that witness earned that
Margsret bad gone to Brooklyn; cannot recolect who
turned back and went to the then
home and the girls again the frat time wines, re-
turned the girls dio not tell him that Maruaret h.d
oeen there after witness heard 1t he to the watch
mouse ana informed the captain the next morning wit
ness went to Brooklyn.
accompanied BY Mr. Southland and the house of Mar
garets cousin but did not ind there; cannot reco
night Wednesday che came with her brother: knew
MI he lived in Newark; they ny the II O'Clock
train from New York and said they had come from
Brokyn Margaret told witness she thought that she
went the Je-sey City Perry time 10 the
Ing and to Brooklyn Of the ferries; her
relatives live in the south part Brooklyn and the pro
per way 70 20 over is BY the South Ferry never asked
her what she bad killed Drum with had better oppos
tunty Of noticing Margaret than the other girls In the
house knew Of hi having had any difculty wit
ness was at home much as usual for the two weeks pre-
vious 10 the murder.
remarked Msrgarets appearance; she looked If
she hao been crying witness recoects speaking her
and going strangers; heard that she about
being married cannot recolect to whom did not hear Of
any refusal CT marrsee she told witness that abe was
about TO be married. witness wife first told him.
asked Margaret by what name he should call her, and
thinks she said Drum The conversation he had with
Margaret about week before the death of Drum.
Mary N acuire examin ed-L,ves ia Halsey street with
MIR Smith Morr has lived there for Eve years past has
known Margaret Clarity since she has Lived with Mr..
Cox, In Plane street cannot say how long she has
knewn Drum; il said that Margaret Ned Drums
gir say what is the meaning Of that expression
they bad met at witness house three timer; they
together; the last time they IL 1t witness house
the Sunday after the fourth Of July; Margaret ana
Df aud Matthew Mcguire left together the expires
sion Ned Drums GIRL they cal IL sparkling in Ireland
he psyirg her attention. but can't say she
gagged 70 Drum noticed change IN her after the fourth
OF july she said that Drum took away her character
she cried hard that witness thought the pegsbors
ould come ia; this about the 2osh Of july MArga
ret Game the aimed until i've cock
she cried sl the said IL about her chsrac-
having teen ost witness her several times after
that; she was always crying and seemed distressed Wit
tried 20 soothe her before Drums death she usually
in the sfter sometimes early, and sometimes
Late generally about five O'Clock NJ day she told
wn &c that abe had been az Mrs Gil ans and that she
had said that Ned had hen there taken his trunk and
Oh sad that at other times be had refused TO mar
her the week before his death she 'aid that Drum
noon before he died sd he married TO girl in New
York Understood vhst Margaret meant when she said
Drum had taken away heI characters The was with wit
es. on Monday can't whether IL before after
three elocs she very much d-trsssed at the time
She told PIE OF his having aid that be married to
girl in New York che cried very much her eyes were so
red with crying that witnes. could MT say What she
looked like; she remained about an hour had heard OF
az she WAS troubled enough when she left she
said that she going 70 buy pair OF shoes,
and that she was gong ava" Ss 70 9.,i Sso0 ~. shs
could not ftsy in Newark vas, that she had
zoe. her chsrsstsr witness told her not 70 come
back did not To be looking at her she looked
80 horrid winners always thought Margaret Was good
nstured and cheerful and that Drum sas attached
TO her does know Msrgarers thought there was
much difference bstw,en hers and Drums; knew Drum
Nss frcm Ireland, but never knew him there.
Cross- examinedU Understood by Nargs;et saying that
nronsr ;atrreourse between her and Drum don't know
whether Margaret returned after buying the shoes VII
usss was absent until O'Clock, p VI.
Dirs CT examination Went away for fear Margaret
would come back and stsid away because witness had
BY the Uourt-It was about O'Clock when Margaret
came 10 witness house
Rosa Lirert examned-Enew Margaret Clarity Tor
about months las been In this country about eleven
lives a. Dir Carke In Rose street has been there about
nine months Margaret very nice girl never say any
thps wrong till this she vas good tempered
and cheerful had great csa u her. recollects
change time after the fourth II Juy she appeared
to be v. bad and began 70 cry u -si on ,os a.na
ppevous the 4h Of August the only day witness saS
her crying much was on the day Drum was killed.
said che was going up 20 bay pair Of shoes anS
th,t Drum mad broken her character she crying al
NOR sns than na 1pp any oss time ~Ssn abe used
call TO witness; witness remsined part o
the time to listen TO her II vas In the kt'hsn which
connects with the dining room the door was open
should think any listening outside they could
have hoard her crying witness was sfrsd Mrs Clare
would have heard her Margaret In Drums com
psny cannot say how often do not know Of he
having been engaged 10 him heard that she was Drum
gir., shout ten months before the murder, did not
know in ireland cannot state what Ia Margaret
axe that afternoon Margaret talked In a strsng'
manner, quite different from what sh. talked before
che talked about Drum all the time do not remsmbs
hearing II said, in presence Of Margaret the da.
having been at Mary Msguire's that afternoon r.
collects that Margaret male up part Of . froc
In witness Kitchen did not SAY what -hs vas max n
al for sad that she v going TO get other things 70 max
up. A. .
Cro~s exsmiped.-when Margaret vent out Tn bu
the shoes witness thinks u was about hspast ocloo
p M abe said that she Wa going up tom her IN,
evening sbout half past oclocs che stayed about n'
minutes askad her N she you'd main long aid 81
did not know but would call her return IL Wa M
too late she aid not back the Doctor met Msrs
ret evening she ming In st the once doo
said she bismed Drum very m2ch for taking away %
character and che would drown herself and have n
venxe him, a. be did not care witness did not see
knife with Msrgartt; sbe talking about Drum an
Mrs 0ilsns family she spoke hsri against them ais
spoke about Anne Msguire; said that she vent TO Mn
GnIans who told hsr that Drum wss gone 70 Ne
York. ard he vss MOI gone; she osm-d Mrs. Gillian
fsmily very much for dssyng that be there; don
rtcoslect having asked any questions shout Drum.
Direct examination resumed - Margaret wore dar
drss ubcn the called witness; did not zee q knit
With her
Cro~s examined -whl. she vas With witness ala NJ
notice how che I'd her hands placed
By the Court Did al witness hos she would ha,
Drum.