The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1851-03-30


acter proves its fertility Mr. Vidal has come forward
with the feeling that in years gone by has prompted
when his eoquence far exceeded anything that has
been ELECTED in this convention though he was not
fortunate enough to be reported in those days lie says
that persons subscribing cannot withdraw their capital
Ny impression that body will want to take il back
for it will he like gas stock in this city valuable
investment paying itself several times over in short
time, that every person viii prefer to let it re-
main Sir. Hamilton has stated what y partly true
but he has told the whole truth The twothrds of
the profits premium for going into the country,
besides these twohds portion Of the gross
character Of the settlement would be such a. would
necessarily grow ont Of parties remaining there not
what is at present There water power and timber
side by side and ingenuity is already turning them to
some advantage. The remark about the grocery does
not below the surface for 1t is perfectly obvious that
no grocery could exist for that would sell
the rates others As for the stock it be sold
at any time like any other stock In reference to houses
l may mention that short time ago landlord would
not let his house to coorcd people Recently large i've
story house has been built in the vicinity Of West Broad
way, expressly for coored people
Mr.. vrpALL-l am not fully satisfied. don't think the
Doctor has answered my objection about the grocery It
elouenty urged by Mr. Downing and others that By
going to Stuars and purchasing wholesale 1t would
be obtained at less price than retail and that the MEM
bcrs would derive the benefit Of the difference The plan
proposed understood it. that be sold at price
lower than at the Dutch groceries This not contra
dcted at the time and take 1t that such the
ing But according to the Doctor there Is 70 be adj
vantage to the subscribers except the interest of the
pita ask the Doctor would he go the upper part Of
broadway for groceries merely to make per cent lie
would make more by staying at home The report reads
Each subscriber and investor shall purchase for cash
such articles they may need at such grocery II is
compulsory according to this reading every subscr
Der to purchase at the joint stock grocery.
L DR. McCuNE SMTH--We changed shall purchase to
4 may purchase before you came in
Mr.. vDALL-I am glad to hear it In reference to the
building spoken Of by DR. Smith, six stories high
Il DR. SMIrH-Five stories.
I Mr. yIDAL-wcll, five stories The windows are three
whole building is unhealthy II such structures are evil
denc If progress would be better to remain as we are
That building would never have been erected for Us II
they did not make money out Of than they could
in other way There will be thirty families crowded
into It. and think that it ought not TO be cited here
evidence that those who are erecting those pigeon
eoops for us have any friendly disposition towards
Az fer giving wo-thirds Of the profits to the settlers
Gerritt Smiths lands. am entirely opposed to that
4 Mr. RorrRr JoHssoS-I for will 20 in for grocery
which will give goods cheaper than any ether, aud
per cent. besides. for my money.
Mr. GvoS-I think the first great object Of this
ment to unite There j. doubt in the world that
at present we arc not united The second object is to
induce the colorcd man TO place confidence in his
brother. for hitherto we have had confidence in
another The great thing is to make bcsnning-to
have something tangible noclcus around which VIC
might rally. There is no Of sptting about the
plan proposed We not perfect and the plan could
not be expected tn be perfect in all its details at
fany one can make suggestion for its improvement,
will be happy to adopt it, The question is whether
not shall harmonic with each other If we
out that confidence in one another IT VIII be
sufficient per ccntage for money We don't pretend
to get up an institution for charity. There will be
nothing for nothing and everything must be paid for.
What said in the committee here repeat, that do
expect to for ten year, to any tangible be-
nchts from the PLAN except its moral effects. At pre-
You go down Wa:treet you deposit your money
in savings bank whose president you would not know
if you were stumble him. but he is n white
and therefore. honest. That is the argument Now,
whether colored equally honest.
have never yet tried them In a bank Iaughtcr) As
to living in houses of poor accommodation have only
to say that are all creatures of circumstances We
must do the best If cannot afford TO live
anywhere but IN "a garnet cellar, why must live
there TIL our circumstances improve.
Mr.. BrLL-1 am not going to make speech There
with the ruling idea Of Mr. Guion though think he
might have expressed it in fewer words hope his views
about conide will prevail My object in rising Is 10
move tho previous question
Th- created terrible confusion disappointment and
excitement many were prepared to make speeches,
and this motion prevailed would have to 20 undcyer
cd If their burthen. The melton was lost.
On motion Of Mr.. IUuLr q clause was introduced into
The plan to make provision for the election ot trca-
Mr. Jsckso. said he thought they were now going in
the fair way Of doing business. instead of whsng to
the wind. lie opposed to prescription, and he
thought il would be better to carry their plan pri
ya;cly. aud publish anything about it. In that
way they would get the white and black amagamate
II had out in the papers tha, the colorcd people
were wing on white men Ii was all very wc for men
who were behind their counters TO act in the indepcn
ployment from white which might be endangered by
such course (licar. hear
II Mr.. fovEps.-The why the colorcd man puts
money into the savings bank Of the white man. Is not
because he has confidence in him than in black
man-than In ourseyes-but because we have no other
class Of have treated others badly they have
treated Our object ought to be- TO get rid Of the in
human Treatment Of some Of them to get out Of the
wrctchod novels building for by who called
landlords but properly devils; who. when they 20 into
the new houses for their rcnt have manners than
herd IL swine. End more impudcncc than thc slave
holders on their plantations. II has been sai that
grocery up town would be too far Why could not the
groceries lie sent round In cart other send
them, Tnlss unite and stand together 10 the
wall Who that has read the Ner Tort Ifoa'd for the
las, years know that there have been pro-
Why should not We adopt the same course
Mr. STANLEY said he at not agree With great deal
Of what he had heard ior hs part he in Tor msk
ing money. If he landlord hc would d. his best
keep up rents They must not be too thin .kuncd lie
did not much eioncc In the natter and IL there
people had their option not to take house
srsr'men NJ. in Il ii. principle was make all
~ he could he would tow forty families into house.
lie could I'll, them that whcrcy1 money and conscience
came togc'h,r money got the yUtIry l,ppau.c) lie,
for would not ratronise colcrcd man because he
vas black.
Mr.. GroHor r DowSfve Of Oyster celebrity. said-T
am not entirely satisfied with the plans proposed
opposed for instance 10 giving two-thir1s Of the profits
10 the settlers the Gcrritt smith laai-. for think
they VIII he better able tn help up than we to
help them ~ provisions viii be- cheaper there, and ex-
rcnst- i,--. II TO however that the objec
ti"ns urged sgsu.t tie entire plan do not amount TO
much. They objection. To- detail than the
principle a. the thing The grocery Ia. been msuudcr
stood The plan a. to buy wholesale prices and sell
ri retail priccthc vcryiaue prices oshcr groceries
but al the end Of certain period to have division of
the profits, This j. the only II could De done. for IL
the articles sold st reduced prices then everybody
cl.c wcuid purchase wei the subscriber aud there
would he profit NJ all The principle the
II number 81 families dubbed their money together AID
bought provisions 1T Wholesale prices. pot them In
and divided them according the wants of
each - to prescription. there such thing. for
th,y would not turn away white man " he to
Purcha, at their grocery IL lac put his money into the
fund.
Mr. cro.-A white ma m. money l. Just q. rood az a
blacks. tLaughtcr) think MIR Downing ht. not an.
swercd stanley who j. anti Unipnii.
Mr. >rsNIEr-Nou know sm South Carolinian.
Mr. GtioN-I would remind you Of what Gcncral Jack.
ssd 10 John q. Calhnun-ihst IL he dill not
keep auiet ", would hang him to the 0Roars
az lsughrr) " here hn avarcous and -..
hsh stanley Why l., the matter BE- dropped. (Ccu-
fusion
tusuNAs-Ordrr.
Mr.. SsSIrs-I do not 90 In for making the people
love another. That will not De accomplished tll
Gahriel's trumpet sounds the resurrection.
Mr. GrIo~ ,s,itcdly III that bc the opinion of every