Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1851-05-05


committee, modified Proposition b. chief,
by striking out the numbers fixed for tbs.
House of Delegates and Senate ll56 ant
56) and also by putting in blank the pro
visions making an apportionment of Dele
gates and Senators, thus leaving B. sim
pie proposition to establish the suffrage ba
sis of representation. Mr., S. stated thai
when this apportionment was adopted, the
committee had not received the document
showing the number of white males over
81 years old.
The notifications in the substitne and
in Proposition b. having been perfected,
there were general calls for question.
The question being divided, the vote
was first taken on the motion to strike out
proposition B. as modified, and it was de,
cided IN The affirmative, as follows:
AYEs.-Mcssrs, Mason, Speaker, Ar
thur, Banks, Barbour, Beale, Bolts, Bow
den, Braxton, Burgess, Chambers, Chiffon.
Claiborne, Cooke, Conway, Cox, Davis,
Edmunds, Edwards, Finney, Flood,
Fuqua, Garland, NJ. Garnett, Goode, Hall,
Hill, Hopkins, Janney; Jasper, Jones,
Lcakc, Lyon, Lynch, Lyons, Martin, Of
H., Meredith, Morris. Petty, Randolph,
Ridley, Rives, Saunders, Scoggin, Scott Of
c., Scott of F., Scott of r, c., Shell,
Smith ofN., Smith Of X, and G., Snowden,
Southall, Stanard, Straughan, Taylor,
Trcdway, Tunis, Turnbull, Wallace,
Watts Of N. Whittle, Williams of F.,
Wing6eld. Woolfork and Worsham-65
NoEs.-Messrs. Anderson, Armstrong,
Bird Of S., Bland, Blue, Brown, Byrd Of
f., Camden, Caperton, Garlic, Carter of
r., Carter Of L.. Chapman, Cook, Fcrgu-
son, Fisher, Floyd, Fulkerson, Fui,z, Gal
ley. Hays, Hogc, Jacob, Johnson, Ken
ncy, kilgore, Knote, Letcher, Lionbergcr,
Lucas, McCamant, McComas, Martin OF
NJ. Miller, Moore, Neeson, Newman,
Price, Seymour, Shelley, Sloan, Smith OF
j., Smith Of c., Snodgrass, Stephenson,
Stewart Of NJ, Stuart Of p, Summers,
Tate, Trigg, Van Wrinkle, White Wiley,
Williams OFFS, Wise and Wysor-56.
The following gentlemen had agreed to
pair of, and those of them who were pres
cnt were excused from voting, viz: Mr..
Chambliss with Mr.. Smith Of Ka, Mr..
Pendleton with Mr. Strothct; Mr. Faux
ner with Mr.. M. r. Fl. Garne,t; Mr.. Muir
ply with Mr.. Douglass; and Mr.. Watts
with Mr.. Purkins Mr. Flood afterwards
stated that Mr.. Bocock, who is confined to
his room in consequence ola severe injury,
md Mr.. Deneale, necessarily absent on
account Of sickness in his family, had a.
greed to pair of. Although twas not an
nounced, we believe it is understood that
Mr.. McCandlish and Mr. Hunter, both alb
sent, had paired off. These IA, with those
who voted, complete the whole House.
The committee having now determined
TO strike out b, the question REQUIRED on
inserting the Substitute.
Mr.. Ferguson moved to amend by rein
stating the restriction upon the representa-
ton of cities and towns; but the Chair de-
cidcd that no amendment was in order at
this stage.
The vote was then taken on inserting
the substitute and the committee refused
to insert it, ayes GO, noes 81,
The vote was the same with that on the
motion to strike out b. with FIVE exceptions,
viz: Mcssrs Bots, Bofeden, Chiffon, Ran
dolph-and Saunders, who voted to strike
out b. voted against inserting the substi-
tutc.
When Mr.. Saunders name was called,
he asked and obtained leave to explain
the reasons for the vote he should give,
and he did this by requesting the Clerk to
read an amendment winch he proposed to
: offer at The proper time, to the proposition
of Mr.. Bolts. The amendment, having
been read, see it below Mr.. S. voted no.
When Mr.. Wise's name was called he
nsked if the substitute, in its modified form,
did not allow representation to the cities
and towns in the same proportion with the
counties?
Mr. Scott of f., answered that it did.
but added, that when adopted, 1t would be
open to amendment.
SO the Committee refused to insert the
substitute.
Mr.. Bolts now offered his Compromise
proposition, heretofore published) as an a
mcndment by way of substitute for propo-
sition A, the, original report of the Eastern
moiety ofthe basis committee
Mr.. Saunders moved to amend the a.
mendmcnt by striking out all after the first
section, so that the wholcproposition would
read as follows:
PROPOSITION OF MR.. SAUNDERS
. l. The Legislature shall be formed Of
two distinct branches, which together shall
be called the General Assembly of Virgin
ia.
2. One Of these slallbe called the House
of Delegates, and shall consist of one hun
dred add thirty-fivc members, TO be cho-
sen for and by the several counties, cities
and towns Of the Commonwealth. in an e.
quail ratio, as near as may be, according TO
the qualified votes thereof.
3. The other House shall be called the
Senate and shall consist of thirty-two mem
bers, and shall be chosen for and by the
counties. cities and towns of the Common
wealth in an equal ratio, as near as may be,
according to the whole Federal numbers
rs thereinascertained and contained And
provided that hereafter the House of Del
gates and the Senate shall be re-apportion-
ed every ten years, upon the same rules
and regulations as herein ordained and es-
tablshed
Upon suggestions from Mr. Price and
Mr.. Summers, Mr.. Saunders withdrew his
amendment for the present
Mr.. Wise and other members. INQUIRED
whether the proposition Of Mr.. Bolts was
amendablc.
The Chair decided that it was.
Mr.. Bolts declared his readiness to ac-
quiesce in any course the committee might
think proper to take with his proposition
His great desire was to see compromise
of this question, and although he preferred
his own plan, he should be glad, lift were
not preferred, to see some other adopted
Mr.. Hopkins, whose name had not been
recorded in the vote ON inserting the Sub-