The republic., 1851-02-18

CASEI replied, ana said ne ulu not TeCog-
misc the right Of nine members OF committee
to smother the voice OF the House and the country.
Messrs. TOOMBS and McLANE made a few re-
marks, when the question was taken on the amend
ment OF Mr.. McLANE and rejected-ayes o.
noes 6S.
Mr.. HOWE moved an amendment, appropriating
$50 Oo0 Tor the survey Of the Allegheny riyer and
Mr.. HILLiARB opposed oppose the the amendment. and
regarded appropriations of this kind as unconstitu-
tiona they were not essential TO the navy or the
protection OF the public property, believing. that
any work executed by the Government must have
| reference to the one or the other object. He was
national man, and the true national man is one
who gives just Interpretation to the powers of the
Government, and compes the Government to ad-
Mr.. JOHNSON. of Arkansas, said that if gentle
men would not unite and cease to offer amend
ments they might as well give up the hope OF pass
ing the bill and he declared himself ready to vote
| down all propositions which may be offered.
Mr.. MoGAUGHEY remarked that if the doctrine
OF internal not in the croed OF the
| Wing party, he did not know what was. He was
prepared to vote for the BILL although dollar might
not be appropriated within five hundred miles OF
his residence; and he would vote for il If the Mis
sssippi river were three thousand miles off, II the
appropriations for the northern lakes stricken
out, he woudvote for it the ground that II would
| do little good. He approved Of the remarks OF
| the chairman OF the Committee on Commerce,
urging the committee not to mutilate the bill.
Messrs. THOMPSON, of Pennsylvania, and
DUER, addressed the committee. The last named
said that he had no doubt of the expediency Of
exercising the power to appropriate for works OF
this kind, within certain limits but he regarded it
as dangerous power unless exercised with the
greatest discretion. The appropriations should be
limited to great national objects, otherwise the sys
tenn will be broken down; and he intended to vote
for the bill as 1t reported from the Committee
| On Commerce, and against amendments.
Mr. CASEY replied to remarks made by Messrs.
| McGAUGHRY and DUER.
| Mr. BAYLY noticed the speech of Mr.. McLANE,
and denied that there will be n LARGE surDlus
treasury, and said that the appropriations will be
| larger than the estimates.
| The amendment of MIR. HOWE was subsequently
| declared to be out of order.
Mr.. MASON moved to strike out the appropria-
ton of 10 900 for the improvement of the harbor
at the mouth Of Little Sodus bay, Lake Ontario,
and to insert $4,000 for the Big Sandy, in Ken
lucky.
The CHAIRMAN decided the last part of the
i proposed amendment to be out of order.
MIR. MASON remarked that big matters come
within the scope, but little do not Therefore
he did not propose to strike out Big Sodus bay.
] That was "bg'' matter, and therefore national.
The subsequent appropriation was for Little Sodus
bay. He did not think the Wing principles would
include this little bay. and he wanted to put in tG
place Big Sandy river Laughter In his State
there was Little Sandy river, navigated by fiat
boats; but for. this he did not propose to make an
appropriation. He did not know whether Big
Sandy came within the category Of Jefferson, Mad
ison, or jackson: but Little Sodus outside Of
Wings, Democrats, and all. [Laughter.]
| Nlr. CONGEh SAID tQat the gentleman was mis-
taken. The bay not SMALL though it bears the
| name of Little Sodus." Ii was one Of the works
recommended by the Government; ana he sent up
an extract from the report of Col. Albert, which was
read, saying that Little Sodus was "a highly i'm
portant hnrbor," and submitting estimates Of ap-
preparations He said that there was collector OF
customs there.
Mr.. MAsoN's amendment was disagreed to.
| Mr.. BAYLY moved to reduce the appropriation
for Little Sodus to one dollar The committee he
said had decided that this 10 general appropria-
ton bill. The rules require that nothing shall be
put in general appropriation bills but those things
which arc already provided for by law, or the con-
tinuation of works already begun. The report of
the typographical engineer, which had been read
at the table, showed that this is entire work.
The item ought not to be in the bill, and therefore
he called on the committee to strike it out.
Further proceedings took place. when the amend
ment of Mr.. BAyL- was disagreed to.
| During the debate, Mr.. .McGAUGHEY took oc
casion to say that his colleagues, with the excep
ton of the one from the Logansport district were
sailing under false coors" as to the bill and this
remark called up. seyerally; Messrs; MCDONALD,
| ROBINSON, and w. J. BROWN in reply, and
they explained their position.
MIR. ULIAN asked whether his colleague included
him.
Mr.. MoGAUGHEY replied that, in his zeal to
get at the Democrats he had overlooked Free soil.
Mr.. BAYLY said that the gentleman from
Indiana (Mr. McGAuoHEy) had remarked that
the object in attempting to make the general ap-
! preparation bills the special order for to- morrow
was to defeat the Harbor and River bill. Now he,
(Mr b., in his official capacity, incapable of
| any such parliamentary manDuvring.
| Mr.. McGAUGHEY. ] said the effect, not the
| intention.
MIR. BAYLY. The gentleman took his colleague
| (Mr. McDoNALD) to task for voting for the motion
to suspend the rules, that the resolution might be
introduced, as it was charged, to defeat the bill
now under consideration. From the symptoms he
had seem the appropriation bills were in great peril,
and are in greater peril now than they have been.
| There will he pcril IN m ha M w
| But twelve days of the session remaining, and
eleven general appropriation bills to be acted
| upon. This gives the bills little more than one
day EACH They have to go to the Senate, and will
come back with amendments, which will consume
much time. He wished to say, with reference to
the efforts 70 prolong discussion under the five
minutes rule that he had twice stated that, unless
different disposition shall be manifested, the gene
| raj appropriation bills cannot be passed, and
special session of Congress will be made inevitable.
| Mr.. CAMPBELL, Of Ohio, asked whether all the
| appropriation bills have yet been reported.
Mr.. BAYLY replied that the Committee Of Ways
| and Means had withheld some of them because it
was manifest that the House had time to give to
| them consideration. The committee, under high
sense OF duty, had scrutinized them. Ten bills
had been reported, and not of them has passed.
| Mr.. MoLANE, of Maryland, appreciated the
anxiety of the gentleman to have the bill consid
ered 1t was his (Mr. McL.'s) wish to remain here,
no matter to what hour, until this bill be reported
| to the House.
| Mr.. BAYLY. The remark made it proper for
him to say that it was entirely unnecessary. The
| gentleman knew that he (Mr. b } had cxcrted
himself TO get clear of this bill.
Mr.. ASHMUN asked whether tho six motions
that the committee rise were not made by Demo
| Gratis.
Mr. vENABLE said that he had made a motion
| to rise, and would do it again.
| MIR. BAYLY wished to answer the interrogatory
of the gentleman from Massachusetts, 1t was asked
whether the motions that the committee rise did not
come from the Democratic side of the House. He
believed they did, But did not the gentleman
know that the disposition originated in violating
the rules Of the House; and, by overriding them to
| bring in this bill, ['Oh no, 'soh ycs,"] which
was not necessary to carry on the Government.
| lie wished to say
| Mr. DUER observed that the remarks of the gen.
tlcman might have tendency injurious to the bill
He must have the generalconscn Of the committee
to proceed.
| Mr. BAYLY assured his friends that his remarks
would not have such tendency. lie proposed,
before 1t too late, that the committee RISE when
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