New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1851-10-10


Al did moi she did not retain her strong healthy
appe arance she got thin IN the lace, ana lookeI
Sciry and anxious, she maze up some sheeSs AM
pillow cases asked her II sne was IN h.iy' gu
She SAID ves she hadn't but little time 10 stay, ana
would have 10 hurry all the time 10 get them maze
,hs was between three aud iour weeks before me
event. she sad she expected 70 oe lhdrIieu III
week or TWO didn't name the day he came ana
cave her the money 70 buy them with she asked II
| wouldn't come and stand up with her didnt tiiK
of any cake YecOslect her beng out one night when
she went UP the river came home ABOUT lO O'CLOCK
:. the evening this was Monday week before Drums
death She told US she had been down town to Mrs.
GillanS she had asked her tNirs g. she had seen
ANYTHING of Drum SAID she saw Drum there, that ne
asked her, and she went TO take walk with him
The Court remarked that the statements OF the
girl as 10 the declarations and conduct OF Drum to-
wards her. proof of its truth Counsel for de-
tense replied that they wished to show state oil
excitemen; cOnvergng 10 insanity, and her CONVEX
sations are offered to show that fact.
Mr.. Whitehead, for defense, SAID nothing was OF SO
much importance as time, with Witnesses ana
thought If 1t were truly known, the time was mucn
less than a week that the walk with Drum took
placement to BelleyIlle, crossed the river, made
arrangements to destroy herself &c was 1t not ev-
Idence relevant here Were not her acts, declIa-
tOHs DC to be taken for what they were worm the
Jury to make out state of insanity lie thought
the Court should allow it TO go to the Jury If not
how were they TO prove insanity at all
The District Attorney here objected TO the aoInis-
sion OF any statements made by the defendant as
TO the interview between the deceased and herself
week previous, upon the ground that this was an
offer prove facts by the defendant herself for the
purpose of showing not that she was insane on Mon
day 4th of August, but what efto that insanity The
evidence proceeded by permission OF the Court.
She said she went over the river with him, towards
BeleyiIe that he told her he was married to glrl
In New-York that she wasn't so fine looking grrl
as she was but had three hundred dollars that he
would never marry Margaret, that If she wanted
money he would gve'her some asked her TO go up
IN the woods with him she said she wouldn't tod
MN 10 20 home 10 his wife if he had a wife she told
HIM she hoped he would never have days luck, ana
he replied he didn't expect TO have he was cross TO
her, and said ne would never marry her that
she had a child to brfng II home to nm and ms rye
and then couid raise II he asked her again, II she
don't want money she said no, that she had enough
10 carry her where she was gong he tOld hef she
might go and drown herself for all he cared she
then parted with him and went up the river on the
Belleve road and sat down on the bank OF the river
took off her hat and prepared to plunge into the
stream, but boat with some ladies and gentlemen
came along and shortly some boys which caused her
TO stop he then went the woods and thought she
would prav to God she kneeled down and prayed,
and then thought she would 90 home she came home
about 10 O'Clock; when she told me this she kept
CRYING | often woke up and found her awake and
crying in bed when she came home she
showed me her hands the next morning. where they
were all torn with brlers was not asleep when she
came, had blown out the light; she was in great
trouble Oh returning from Glllans she did not laugh,
and showed no cheeifulness didn't go out on Sun
day SAID she didn't want to sad she was getting
ready to 60 to Brooklyn, she wouldn't stay IN New
Nork-that she had lost her character, and wouldn't
stay any longer said she had lost her character by
Drum did not state how she had los, 1t had no diff
hCulty In understanding her meaning she was
CRYING when she said 1t; she acted kind as If she
was light headed had queer look from her eyes
she never SAID anything to me OF Drums nav
ing 10 do with her she sometimes washed ana IRON
ed. but generally waited Oh the table wasn't much
IN hat part of the house where she worked II was
thee or four weeks before Drum was killed she
used to put things out of their place she would
inst no
and would say she forgot what she was dong the
afternoon of the evening on which Drum was killed
she got tea and waited on table as usual she didn't
finish setting the table, that IS, she did not set on the
knives and forks for breakfast, but she cleared it off
saw her up stairs in her room when she came home
that afternoon 1t was about O'Clock Elizabeth set
the table the Monday evening previous, when she
said she went over the river we had three separate
beds IN the room; she told me about going up the
Belleve road as soon as she came IN never mea-
toned It to any except 10 Ny Parker that waSa
few DAYS after the murder when she returned from
New-York, after the murder, saw her up STAIRS,
Wednesday, IN the morning Elizabeth was there
making beds | did not sleep with her, but IN the
same room as to the sheets and quilt, she told me
Drum gave her the money she tod me she had WIS.,
TED Mrs Gillans had not mentioned II to others be-
fore the murder stood IN the door when she went
out on the night OF the murder SAID she was gong
out to see him put on her things and went out she
acted strange and lighty, different from what she
generally did she had hurried to get through the
work 10 go out saw nothing In her hands when she
went out her hands were crossed over her shawl
did not know that she had that knife.
Jameson Dodd, swom.-Am an agent in the Office
Of the Morris d Essex Railroad Company have
tad eu a cup of coffee occasionally at Mr.. Fuckers,
sometimes two or three times a week breakfast
Cd there near every morning. when very busy
knew Margaret Clarity as the waiter at the
table have known her all the time she waited
there consider her a very pleasant and agreeable
female at the table had little TO say, but al
WAYS answered questions clvllly remarked on one
occasion to Mr.. r he had very smart girl there he
,11 bt,fs tho llcfor ppp ne
10 lose her soon she was generally cheerful never
noticed any change IN her until the morning oil the
ith OF August on observing her face she seemed
changed and not like herself at all she looked Wlid
and strange noticed Il several times, as ! did not
know what allied nor she would turn round very
suddenly. and start as though suddenly surprised,
as # her mind was on something else did not speak
OF It, or think OF 1t during the day, but on hearing
Of the murder and the person charged with 1t, re-
marked, "that accounts for what saw III her AZ the
table Yesterday" Had certainly taken breakfast
there within two weeks. don't recollect how often.
Elizabeth HarIiaS. swom-LiyeG at Mr. fuckers
AS help lived there before Margaret came, and do
now lived there before Margaret came, and
90 now knew of Drum visiting the house It was
after Margaret came entered the dlnlnS-room door
never saw him come when Margaret was not there
they stand IN the dIDng-room OF evening nobody
was there with them Stald sometimes TIL O'Clock
and sometimes later the dnlng-room IS of from the
house he used TO stay TIL after had gone TO bed
sometimes he came three times week, sometimes
two he was regarded as Margarets beau recollcct
Margaret making some Otuqullt>, shectS pAto"
cases she got one dress ready, she told me 1t was
for wedding dress told me sne was gong TO get
married to Drum Margaret had no other beau
come there Al was two or three weeks before Drums
death that Margaret made up her things used to
tease her about getting married. as she SAID she
would not be long with us appeared to think very
much of Drum she had her things 10 get ready, she
said one nieht she was sick at her stomach ana
Threw up up stairs she crled ana toiu me
she was afraid she IN the family way said IL
was by Drum noticed that she was not regular In
her turns that they stopped she said they had
been of her two months this was before there had
been any trouble with Drum. was intimate with
Margaret Bridget was older ana had soit oil charge
ot rirls She talked most to me this rreguarty
m Marearet's health about two weeks before
Drum was KILLED seen It before that time, but dld
no, mention II until then she was greatly distressed
about 1t she said her character was gone forever
uoticed her sickness 1T the stomach three or four
t,mes she EXPRESSED fears that Drum would not
h,As an i'm Nth annther Clrl. and