The national era. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1847-1860, 1850-08-22

States, having agreed to that line AZ bourdo-v
between our territory and Texas. are es,ornsJ
from denying the title Of Texas TO the TERRITORY
west Of IL. Now, ! have before me the verv
treaty under which the boundary bet ween Texas
and the United States was run in 1888 IL bears
the signatures Of John Forsyth and Memuoan
Hunt, and is dated the 25th OF April 1898. The
rsti6cations were exchanged on the 18Th October.
1888 IL is "a Convention between the initial
States Of America and the Republic of Texas for
marking boundary between the United States
OF America and Texas" The first article pro-
vides that each Of the contracting parties shall
appoint commissioner and surveyor. who shall
proceed to run and mark that
portion OF said boundary which extends from me
mouth Of me SABINE, where that river enters the
Gulf of Mexico, 10 me Red rir,yn
10 the Red river There il ends Wall s;r
thus line does not touch the BOUNDARY betxean
the indian country and that extensive district
called the Santa Re country-so called unon ,ha
very map (Disturnell's) which the Senatar g.
Maine now has before him-and ALWAYS reaanSas
as part Of New Mexico. IL does not toucb h.t
boundary at all Ii does not come within ,hraa
hundred miles Of it. 1t runs from the month ~
.ne osoine 10 the Red river. Nothing more II
Is c,ear tnen, that there is nothing in this treaty
or In our action under il, which admits hv g.,
implication however remote any title IN r..
to the thirty thousand miles surrendered nv tha
bill which has received the sanction OF the Gen.
ate. 'A0 SUI
do not wish TO nrolnD1 ibis ,iiee.-r-,-- - y
not see that anything which the Csna,o- g.
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mr.. WINTHROP commented on Mr.. Cbase's 20
marks lie expressed his surprise that the Sen
ator from Ohio should regard the Texas bounJ.
airy concession and payment as the main objection
10 the Omnibus bill, since that bill was omen 20
another very serious objection in the Judgment Of
the People OF Ohio. He also declared HE a.
proval Of the Texas Boundary bill under ihs o;t
cumstances, believing as he aid, that the bornd
airy OF New Mexico must be made good nv ,oIa
or oy steel and preferring as he did, to have II
marked In yellow rather than in red He prood
also, that there were great considerations Con-
nected with the settlement of this BOUNDARY o,hor
than money. A''
Mr.. CHASE replied Mr. President the bonor
able Senator from Massachusetts fMr. WlNrzsosl
has adverted to my remarks in terms which ra
quire some answer. The honorable Senator hos
said that there was question embraced in that
series OF measures called the Omnibus hin y in
which the State OF Ohio had deep interest. other
than that OF the boundary of Texas. 1t is true
there was such question. The people of Ohio
II. 4
duty of Congress to prohibit the existence Of
slavery In the Territories. And whenever that
question is presented, suppose the Senator from
massachusetts, and myself will be found voting
side by side. The Senator has said that smoke
OF what seemed to be change of position ON the
part OF certain Senator'S as consequence of the
advent OF new Administration. Every Senator
doubtless determines for himself the course which
ne VIII pursue upon every measure which comes
before us am not one Of those who urge the ar
gument post noe, ergo, propter hoe But cannot
neip observing the course Of events And when
see one Administration conducted upon CAPTAIN
principles, and pursuing certain line of nol;cv
with regard to the Territorial and Texan onss.
ions, 90 cut OF power, and another Adminjstra-
ton, OF different views, come in and then oh.
serve whapseems to be change of position -
Mr.. WINTHROP. Will the honorable Senator
allow me to ask him what evidence there is of any
change having occurred in the policy of the last
and present Administrations 2
Mr.. CHASE. find evidence Off change os mill
cy IN the late message of the President. which
satisfies my mind. But | shall enter into no dis
cussion upon that
say, sir, that when Administrations change
and gentlemen from whom certain line of action
was expected take different course, harmonizinu
with the new yolicy, we are apt TO think that the
change OF Administration may have had some
thing to do with it. | do not say that Il had
But, Sir, the Senator has also said that consid
eratons more vital than those connected with mere
acres are involved In this Texan boundary on.s.
tion. That is true II has been frequently aid
In the course Of the debates here that every fact
OF SOIL which the United States retained east of
the fio eirande would be free soil Senators from
the south have asserted, and Senators from the
Nortn nave conceded, this, Thus, then, stands the
case; The line originally proposed by the hon.
oraoie Senator from Missouri, land which the Sen.
ator from Massachusetts also proposed as an amend
men' 70 the Texan boundary bin but withdrew IN
ala retain rs territory Of the United States about
one huudred thousand square miles which the
Texan boundary bill surrendered to Texas.
NOW, 1t seems to me that this makes diff.
ference in the character of the two measures and
II II be true, as has been asserted upon one side
OF the chamber without contradiction upon the
other, that every square mile retained by the Uni
ted States was gained 10 freedom, while every
square mile surrendered TO Texas was conceded
to slavery
Mr.. CAS. Will the honorable Senator allow
me TO state to him that he Is In error The state
ment which he makes has been denied on this
hoor by myselfand others. You know, MIR. Pres
ident, and every Senator that has looked at the
question knows-and am sure the Senator from
ONO VIII cuncur in IL when he examines the sub
lsct that whether this territory belonged to
Texas or to the United States IL viii be slave ter
ritory or free territory, just az the inhabitants
who may occupy II may decide. The question of
slave soii or free soil no more bears upon the
question than IL does upon the moon II leaves
the people Of the Territory to decide whether il
shall be slave or o free State.
Mr.. CHASE. Mr.. President -
The PaEsrDENr The Chair feels bound to in
terfsre. The debate now going on has nothing
10 do with the subject before the Senate.
Mr. CHASE. | have very little more to say.
submit to the decision OF the Chair
Mr.. WINTHROP. | only desire to say that, un-
Ter the ruling Of the Chair, ] must submit, as
we'll as the Senator from Ohio. There were one
Dr. TWO points Of fact on which desired TO cor
'ect him; but must also yield.
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