Daily Richmond times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1849-1850, 1850-02-14

Mr. FERGUSON SAID the gentleman would not oaie " W
knew that Western Virginia would sustain no man VINO
admitted that principle Mr.. I proceeded to say tnat
he wanted the Convention. He wanted 1t to- reform
our present rotten constitutiono abolish the lie terms
of udges-to extend the right Of surage-to upset the
contemplate system OF countycourtsto make ofncers
generally more amenable to the people-to have the
Governor especially elected by the people, and magls-
trates also-n short he wanted Virginia TO become a
Republican State True she had stood by Democratic
principles but they not written in her CONSTITUTION
In conclusion, he ventured to predict that Western Vlr-
gnia would not vote down Convention for those great
objects, though should be upon the basis estabshed
this bill.
Mr. Cook said he preferred the bill reported by the
select committee; not being able to get that, he was
next in favour OF the proposition OF the gentleman from
Rockbrdge and not being able to get that he would
vote heartily for the present bill. The great question
was Convention no Convention. tie wanted the
rotten Constitution remodeled the judiciary system re-
formed, and other vital changes The census ne
thought, made sort of difference in the question
Mr. DoRMAN said he felt himself compelled to go Tor
the BILL as he found it impossible to get Convention
on any other terms.
Mr. BURwELI congratulated the country on the gene
raj disposition in this House to harmonic this great
question. He repealed the idea that the East was not
acting in good faith in this latter
Mr. PANN1LL called for the previous question, but
withdrew it in favor OF
Mr.. FINNEY, who wished to define disposition he
had shown hss disposition to meet the West in spirit
Of compromise. He deprecated Mr.: Johnson's INTRO
pose of making an imputaton. on him; his remarks
were in reply to the gentleman from Logan. Mr. FER
eUsoN then asked if Mr. meant to make an lmputaon
on him. Mr.. j. said he had meant none upon any
gentleman Mr.. FINNEY concluded his remarks by
saying that if Eastern gentlemen defeated this Dill they
would inflict deadly blow on Eastern Virginia.
Mr. SHEPARD averred that he was opposed to Con-
venon any basis, and said he did not understand the
logic by which gentlemen held those who occupied that
position responsible for the possible future success OF
Convention on the white basis Ii the East was pre-
ifc r1fU nj fxvlDf Iv.n rhf
Houses to yield to Convention, which would ultimate
y transfer the power Of the State to the West, those
who acquiesced in the proceeding were responsible and
not those who acted with him.
Mr. FINNEY said he believed this was the accepted
time. If the East did not take the Convention now, it
would unquesonaby be constrained at an early day to
yield to the overwhelming demands OF the people
Mr. SHEPARD dissented this and thought the Con-
venon was defeated now, it could not be carried in ten
years.
MI CONWAY moved to Law the bill on the table, and
make it the order tomorrow morning.
Mr., RIvES occupied very critical position. lie was
ultra in his own views for the call Of Convention, but
his people were as ultra in opposition to it. he there
fore should be constrained to vote against the bill
MIR. PATRICK moved to make the bill the order this
day week.
Mr.. SrovA1L hoped the House would not adjourn
without taking the vote.
Mr. CAMPBELL of NJ, thought as this question
OF great delcacy, and several gentlemen wished to
address the House. it would be proper to postpone the
vote.
Mr.. PATRICK moved to adjourn-rejected.
Mr. PATRICK withdrew his motion to make the bill the
order this day week.
The motion to make 1t the order Tomorrow was re-
jected-ayes43 noes 81.
Mr.. SYME moved the previous question on the pas
sage OF the bill.
Mr.. WEST thought this motion ungene rous; West
ing themselves.
Mr. HARv1E said he was utterly averse to having
Convention on any basis, because he thought this
very unfortunate time for the discussions which Con-
XOuId on
tation Virginia oughtto turn her whole attention to
warding off blows from without tie yet hoped the bill
would be defeated if time given for consultation.
Mr.. WEST would inform the gentleman that Conven-
ton would certainly be held.
Mr.. HARvIE held his opinion on that subject to
be quite good Mr. Vests In order to satisfy him
the House adjourn. Mr. II. expressed his belief that the
probability of the bills being passed was only due to
species OF logrong which might yet be connteracted
Mr. CLAIBORNE, BY leave of the House, said he trusted
the House would not adjourn to enable the gentleman
from Amelia ogro for the purpose of defeating the
wishes Of majority OF the House.
Mr.. HARvIE, by leave, said he wanted to defeat the
log rolling which had been used to carry this bill. He
wanted to bring Eastern gentlemen to the test and to
see whether they were prepared to give up the mixed
basis.
Mr.. Cook asked if the gentleman was for this bill.
Mr.. HARvIE said hewas against all the bills including
this buthe preferred this to any other
Mr.. CLAIBORNE said he had rolled no logs on this
question. large majority Of the House were Tor a
Convention.
The House refused to adjourn
Mr.. SyME disclamed any intention OF being unfair to
Western members. He had voted twice to adjourn,
that they might have the opportunity OF speaking ii
they wished.
Mr.. George called for the ayes and noes the pre-
vious question-caU sustained.
Mr.. SHEFFEY hoped the house would not sustain the
call for the previous question. He had commenced to
give his views this subject the other day, and then
yielded to the desire OF the House to vote on the
grossment the bill.
Mr.. FERGUSON said he should vote for the previous
question because of the declaration OF the gentleman
from Amelia that he wanted to defeat this bill by adj
journing.
MI WEST said he was going tora Convention, and
if he could not &c, it nthe white basis ne would 60 Tor
it on the basis of the bill He wanted the poor pititul
privilege OF explaining his position.
$ Mr.. PRICE moved to adjourn. Rejected-aves SO,
noes 81.
Mr. MARTz hoped the previous question would not be
sustained he wished to give explanation OF his po-
siton.
Mr. LEWIS Of H. hoped that if a tyrannica majority
OF % were going TO force Convention upon the West
which she did not want, they would not do it with
gag. He wished to reply to the member from Logan.
Mr. SyME expressed his willingness to withdraw the
call for the previous question: with understanding that
the vote should be taken at o'clock tonight.
Mr. SoUTBALL moved to adjourn.
Mr. CLAIBoRNE~demanded the ayes and noes. Sus-
tanned
The House refused 10 adjourn--ayes Sc, noes 81.
Mr. DoRMAN moved to take recess till halt past 4
Out OF order,
Mr. LEWIS of H. continued to deprecate forced vote
on this bill Eastern gentlemen had made their speeches
which would go broadcast over the land. Enough was
to be seen around here to induce every friend OF hu
rights distinguished from the rights of property to
vote against this previous question II this so-caled
compromise was forced upon his people, he took oath
solemn Hannibal swore upon the altar OF his
fathers that he would exhorng the West
to accept no compromise except compromise on the
top OF the Blue Ridge He would tell his people that
Eastern members, and few,Western members with
Eastern views, had spoken this question, and not
single member from the North West and then the gag
was applied Il
Mr. WEST wanted the reporter to take down the fact
that this bill put to the vote under gag. He had
been treated very literally this session. but he
tonished at the state of things exhibited.
Mr. SHEPARD stated that more Western members than
Eastern members had spoken,
Mr. F1NNEY moved to adjourn.
The SPEAKER counted the vote, and by mistake stated
TO be, ayes 49, noes SO then correcting himself he
said was ayes So 49, and pronounced the House