The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-09-14

pendture of money for that purpose than we have already
10 strike out the appropriation altogether. would even
20 80 far as prohibit the use OF that iund In either
branch Of Congress for that purpose have prepared an
amendment which will effect that object. do not
wish to consume more of the time OF the Senate The
amendment is as follows;
Provided That after the ermina zion oil this Congress
no books sha be s1SeP 'n nor hal any Dor
ton Of the contingent innd he aPPfoPa'ea V payment
for such books ("
Mr.. DICKINSON. Mr. President, the great difficulty
s TO get some put the bell upon the cat There -
difficulty all in the operation OF putting on tne De'
but the difficulty is to get some one TO puf 4 on laugh
teri OF course the Congress that proposes TO buy the
books will have nothing else to do bui to repeal this or
any other law that stands in their way.
The PRESIDENT The amendment of the senator
from Maine is not now in order.
Mr. DODGE, OF Iowa | hope we shall have the yeas
and nays upon the amendment We have bad pretty
smart little battle upon the subject OF books and the
OF us who conquered in that battle and especially TO the
senator from Missouri. [Mr BEsToS Tor having put an
end to the vicious system OF paying Tor books nink
deny to ourselves move that we do not concur IN the
bill il from the House OF Representatives. ma
king the appropriation for books
The PRESIDENT. The senator is not in order at
Mr. DICKINSON You can vote down our amend
ment, and then move another.
The PRESIDENT. The senator can get at his object
by voting down the amendment OF the commiitee and
then moving TO strike out the appropriation altogether
Mr., DICKINSON. Tha. will reach IL wish, how how;
ever to say few words The House may have ordered
in authentic form, and thus have become obligated for
these books II they have done So should regret to
take any course which would deny them the means OF
paving for them upon their own responsibility have
gone into thus book legislation. and do not pro-
pose | have voted, believe, in single m
stance, for any such appropriation, and have nten
ton OF doing so But il the House of Representatives
choose ask for contingent fund Tor any purposes
within their constitutional rights will vote TO give i 10
them for any reasonable amount although, as did not
The COM
mIee struck out that part which relates TO book essa
ton and propose instead 10 add $4,000 to their contn
Mr.. UNDERWOOD | wish to ask the chairman Of
the Committee Finance for information. want 70
ascertain how much appropriation has been already made
by the civil and diplomatic bill to which tins rs an add
ton.
Mr. DICKINSON. No appropriation has been made
by the civil and diplomatic BILL because that bill has not
the OF $40 900 by that bill TO the contingent fund OF
the House The Committee on Finance have proposed
to add this $50 600 for books, making $50 900 in all
Mr. UNDERWOOD. hope, then, sir, that we shall
refuse concur the amendment OF the committee, and
that shall then strike out this appropriation altogether
according to the suggestion OF the senator IRON Iowa
he question being then taken upon concurrng IN the
amendment, it decided in the afirmative-ayes 81,
noes H.
The PRESIDENT. The next question is upon con-
curing in the amendment striking out all the provlso,
and inserting what was offered by the senator from Mis-
souri,
Mr. RUsK | wish to understand the effect Of the
Mr.. PRESIDENT. II the amendment prevails, the
proviso is that offered by the senator from Missouri;
the amendment does not prevail the povso stands as at
present in the bill
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. The proviso is in these words
.ThS the senators and representatives California be
allowed the mileage as the delegate from Oregon
| understand the senator from Missouri TO move TO
strike out what have read, and insert his amendment
in lieu oil it. Ii strike out and insert, then will II be
in ORDER according the rule OF the Senate TO to
The PRESIDENT Certainly not.
Mr. UNDERWOOD So | understand IT,
The PRESIDENT The Chair will state what is the
rule III Senate strikes out and inserts, II will not be
in order 10 strike out what inserted If they refuse
TO strike and insert then they can propose 70 strike
proviso which they have thus refused to amend
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. So | understand it; and now |
wish 40 know whether can have division of this
question so as 10 settle the whole matter once.
The PRESIDENT, The parliamentary law does not
admit OF div ldng the motion to strike out and insert
Mr.. UNDERWOOD Then the only chance will be
for those OF US who wish to get rid OF the provision
il stands, and 10 let the senators from California stand
upon the footing with the OF TO vote against
the amendment proposed by the senator from Missouri
to vote ii down il we have strength enough to do IL and
then move TO strike out.
Mr.. DODGE, Of Iowa. As | understand the amend.
ment OF the senator from Missouri il simply confirms the
law OF the land in the case OF the senators from Caor
MIA Ii has, however, this additional recommendation 10
me- that proposes pay the delegate from Oregon the
be paid TO the senators and representatives
from California As wish TO that done, hope the
Senate will agree to the amendment OF the honorable
MIR GWIN | am as much in favor OF giving TO the
delegate from Oregon what he is entitled 10 any one
and when the general bill up. by which the ques
ton OF mileage 10 be settled shall advocate and
for placing him upon the footing the senators
and Representatives from California. The objection
have to now is, thai this is special law, having refer
TO members OF this body. shall be willing, when
The subject comes up upon the general appropriation
BILL To Join IN fixing the rates OF mileage in what may be
deemed the most appropriate manner and am, as have
said, July in favor OF putting the delegate from Oregon
upon the most favorable fosng | am only opposed TO
this method of reaching the subject
While am up, sir, will make another remark. The
senator IRON Missouri says that when the law il now
stands, passed, related alone 10 within the
United States Well SIR suppose there is no such route
Then suppose senators and representatives. must not
come here all, or they must get no pay for H. There
is no travelled route from California within the borders
of the Un,ed States TO Washington city II you come
overland, you must have escort Fifty thousand per-
sons have gone one way, but should like to know OF
one who has come back by the route
Mr.. CLAY Mr. President, a single word or two upon
the subject The senator's from California and the mem
bers OF The House from California travel BY one route
The proposition before ia TO pay them by another route
which they did travel, aud which probably they
may travel Now the existing Law which has
been read by my colleague is not limited to the United
States. Very true, at Tue time OF lis passage there was
member OF Congress who travelled outside OF the Uni
ted States 10 order get Washington but the law
says that by whatever the member comes to Wash
lngon, BY that route he shall be paid and this applies,
oil course TO waer-route well as 10 land-roue. II
embraces the well the Mississippi river, and
every other means OF communication By which people
travel There is restriction, understand il, and
insist that member is entitled and that he has a vested
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