The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-07-31

seTts whal We believe upon that subct ana prossoea
anst any mischief asng oul OF that IN vanous acs
il This nefne date period that has elapsed between the
adoption OF this measure the action OF the commits
sloners WIN view TO the settlement o. 'his question y
that alternative think. therefore, there can De no o.
lection to IT, trust the proposition thus modined Will b
adopted II is satisfactory to friends from Texas
Il and II Is Just, reasonable, and proper
Mr.. DAVIS. Of Mississpp Is the question divisibe
i The PRESIDENT. Il is not divisibie
/ Mr.. BRADBURY. ask the senator from mississippi
! 10 withdraw his amendment that may submit one
| MIR FOOTE will withdraw it with great pleasure.
i Mr.. BRADBURY Then. MIR. President, submit a
proposition which will be understood when say that 4
embraces the proposition which submitted before. with
an additional clause made by striking out upon line OF
boundary, and inserting 'ihe commissioners will be d.
reeed TO ascertain and TO agree upon The territory prop
erly included within and rghlfuy belonging 10 the State
| of Texas at The time of her annexation to the United
States at period that date, and TO define and
establish The limits OF the same. If they shall ind II prac-
cabe so to do and in they shall be unable to agree
! upon the true and legitimate boundary OF the State OF
Texas. then they authorized agree upon conye-
| nient line OF boundary"
/ Then follows the language Of the other amendment
The reading OF the proposed amendment, being called
| for, il was read as follows
Strike all The enac,ing clause in section 80 and
| insert in lieu lheieof follows,
That the President Of the United States be- and he hereby
Senate, appoint three commissioners any two al whom
shall have power with such as may
Texas upon the territory properly included within and
ghuuly belonging the Stale OF Texas at the time OF her
date, and to define and establish the Limits Of the same il
they shall find IL practicable 70 do and in case they shall
be Unable agsee upon the true and legitimate boundary
of the OF fexas they hereby authorized TO
upon convenient line of boundary between the territory
nencos At tho ron, where the Red liver is nIerseced by
the iOo degree Of longitude ben. the southwest
ge OF the Indian territory, and running to point the
RIO Grande 10 be agreed upon by the said commission.
eIs and also to agree upon the terms conditions and
And the proceedings and asree,nen, OF the said commits
ssass Of ss q Ss by n
10 Congress Tor its action hefeupon and the sad agree
and Inc legislature Of Texas shall be obligatory upon The
| parties.
| MI. RUSK Dir. President desire to offer the fol-
lowing amendment, and ask the yeas and nays upon II
PROVIDED The orders Of the military commander Santa
fe for the formation OF Stale Or territorial government
wi all acton whca has been aiken nndcr SAID ORDER be-
and the same is hereby, declared null and void
| Mr. HAMLIN. Mr. President, before the question of
ordering the yeas and nays is taken, wish TO inquire
OF the Chair whether the expression Of opinion here
in the Senate upon military orders is matter OF egisla
The PRESIDENT That is not a question for the
Chair to decide.
Mr. SEWARD. Mr.. President. | desire 10 ask the
opinion OF the Chair whether the amendment proposed
by the senator from Maine MIR. BRADBURY differs sub
santialy from his forner amendment which was voed
down. Hearing it read, it seemed 10 it was the same
identical proposition II is proposed and revised some
what, but the powers which il gives to the commission
ers the those given in the former amend
ment embraces the very language and the very al
tentative which, 1t seems to me. are contained IN the
present amendment If that be then there nothing
to amend by the senator from Texas, Mr. RUsK ask
| The PRESIDENT II the senator asks the decision
Of the CHAR with regard TO this matter for the
decision of the Senate than OF the Chair The object to
be accomplished by the two amendments is undoubtedly
the but the amendments substantially different.
and the Chair cannot decide this out OF order.
! Mr. BERRiEN. Mr.. President the essential, sub
santal difference that strikes existing between the
amendment upon which tue vote has been heretofore
taken and that now offered by the senator from Maine
MIR. BRADBURY] is this By the present amendment The
he
full boundary line in the first instance; and only in the
OF their being unable 10 agree upon that boundary
line that the powers subsequently conferred upon them
by the amendment given. There is therefore, esq
sential difference
| The PRESIDENT. The Chair has decided that ques-
Mr. CLAY, wish merely to say that, for one, can
not vote ior that proviso.
Mr.. DAVIS. Of Mississippi. MIR President, j, strikes
med to the Sesatethat will declare all the orders
null and void. without knowing what the orders are.
| Mr. PRATT II the senator will give way moment,
will state, Mr.. President, that It is worse than that 1t
question OF historical FACT whether any orders have
emanated from the executive department OF our govern
ment not Ii is said that such order has been
| issued We now, by voting afirmatively upon this
amendment assert, IN the hrst place, that such orders
have been issued and then attempt by such vote, to
abrogaie what presuppose had existed learn that no
such orders have emanaed from the executive depart
ment The amendment assumes the fact that they have
| been issued.
| Mr. DAVIS, of Mississippi resumed II not only
assumes that fact, but II assumes more. There may be
orders connected with other questions OF military char
acter, and the repeal OF which will consequences
which no senator foretell To declare, therefore,
that these orders, of which know nothing, null and
vod--orders which may be entirely legitmate-is one
proposition but declare that the military governor had
no right TO found a civil government is different one.
| The one could vote for the other cannot.
Mr. FOOTE. Mr. President, | will make a single re-
mark in addition to the remark Of my colleague. II is
obvious that this amendment does not only
that these orders have been adopted but present
valid, far to need amendment of this sort to put
an end to and nuty them think ii amounts to that.
| Mr.. RUSk Let the amendment be read.
The amendment again read.
Several SENATORS. Question question
Mr.. BENTON. am unwilling by a vote upon this
subject to let II be supposed that will in my legislative
capacity, vote Judicial opinion, and especially upon
military subject, and to condemn, without even look
ing it, the orders issued by the President, who had
been there for forty years more and bad since been
elevated from the military profession TO the highest civil
upon such point ! shall hold back my vote because
unwilling tha, the country should believe | would
vote upon such point
| Mir RuSk MIR President, the amendment proposes to
declare null ard voId wha, everybody knows has taken
place colonel stationed in Santa Re has ordered the
formation both OF territorial and State government
1t il colonel in Santa Fe. and says nothing about
order of the President The question is. Has q colonel
upon the disputed territory rgh, TO take steps and issue
orders for the formation OF territorial or State govern
mentl That IL the language OF the amendment and IT
declares such action null and void Everybody knows
that Colonel Monroe. commanding in Santa Fe. has
directed the people there 10 assemble in convention to
form constitution for State government, and the con.
stitution is before us IN the newspapers
| Mr.. BERRIEN II | understand the amendment cor
rec orders lssued