The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1850-07-02

lays, claim and that Of NJ PaciGco, never was de-
MED hy G'ere~, as furnishing proper subjects OF
had been represented III At there had been denial
OF justice With reference to the claim put forth
10 the islands Of Sapenza and Cervi, the noble
Marquis had given no answer to the arguments OF
Lord Stanley. Since the fleet under Admiral
Parker started from England. it had been
employed in little that reflected credit on
this country. At Lisbon and Naples it excited
the suspicious of the governments. and though
it arrived the lonian Island, after the insurrrc
ton, supply of naval eats for the torture of the
islanders were sent on shore from it, The entry
into the ID srddnrlles was boasted OF as having
brought the Emperor to his senses, bln the En-
peror bad previously scquiesced in the Interpretation
of the Turkish treaty in question, and her majesty's
z vernment had been obliged to apologize TO the
Emperor for entering the Dardanelles, and had
promised 10 do 30 no more. He charged ministers
with having sought, m accepting the good offices Of
France, to put its plenipotentiary, Baron eros, in
the position Of a sherff's officer The French
government had recalled its amba ssador in conse-
quence OF the manner in which il had been treated,
yet her uaJesty's ministers went on haggling with
II, to the great injury of the good understanding
which ought TO exist between two such great ma
tons. When he looked at our relations with
Europe generally, he found them in an unprece-
dented condition. There was time when this
country respected and loved by all the great
continental nations but how was il now Z He
could not congratulate the noble Marquis on the
novel friendship which he found existing with
Russia. Ansria had been deeply injured by the
influence which had been exercised by us in Pied
mont. We might have prevented the Piedmontese
war, and we might also have pursued policy
which would have rendered the occupation Of
Hungary by the Russian troops unnecessary. The
nations of the continent fortunately separated the
conduct of her majestys government from the
feelings of the English people, and he was sure
that there was not one member of that house who
had listened to Lord Stanley's speech who could
ay his hand on his heart, and say that every word
of it was not strictly and literally true.
Lord CARDIGAN was deeply impressed with
sense of the danger TO which this country was
exposed by the state of its foreign relations. He
had the greatest respect for the courage and Ia
Tents of the noble lord at the head Of the Foreign
Department, but feeling the isolated position in
which the country was placed by the policy OF
that department, he would give his hearty support
to the motion before the House.
Lord WARD defended the conduct of the govern
ment and of the noble lord at the head of the Fo-
reign Department, and complained that the ques-
ton before the House had been greatly prejudged
and mlsrepresented
Lord BEAUMONT announced his intention of
voting against the motion, and rose to protest
against some ct the doctrines to which Lord STAN
ley had given utterance He criticised the preli-
minary proposition the noble Lords motion-a pro-
position which the noble lord himself had found il
necessary 10 qualify in the course of his speech.
He contended that Greece, being an independent
nation, there was no necessity for consulting any
other power in quarrel with her, however poliuc
it might be 10 do so. Referring to M. Pacfco,
the noble lord admitted that he had no respect for
rated claims, but the House ought to consider him
as an injured individual, to whom redress had been
refused when applied for TO the proper legal autho
rites at Athens. Both TO Mr.. Finlay and M.
Pacifco there had been complete denial Of JUS
tice; and after review of all the questions in
dispute between the two governments, he declared
that there was no course left for this country to
pursue except to employ force. He characterized
the motion as an un-English and hostile motion,
and he hoped the House would reject il.
Viscount CANNING admitted that the conduct of
the Greek government had been evasve and equi-
vocal, but il did not follow that because the Greek
government had done wrong, the government of
this country had done right. He pointed out the
strong objections to which the mode of dealing
with Mr.. FiDlay's and M Pacifces cases was open
in point of International law. He also drew atten-
ion TO the of the Ionian subjects pundered by
robbers, and showed that there, too, the law of
tons had been violated by the manner in which
the government had demanded redress. He re-
minded the House that there were other countries
in the world nearly powerful, and much less
scrupuous m the exercise of their power than ours,
and that these countries would probably make
disastrous use OF the example which had thus been
set them.
Lord EDDIsBrRY, like the preceding speaker, re-
viewed each of the claims put forward against the
Greek government, contendng that in the aggre-
gate at least the refusal of them justified
of reprisal In support OF his view he quoted cer-
tain dispatches OF the Earl OF Aberdeen addressed
TO the English Minister at Athens, as showing the
language which the government of that day held
to the administration of King Ohio.
The Earl of HARDwIcKE felt satisfied that Admir-
raj Parker had not stated TO the government that
he had been compelled TO enter the Dardanelles by
stress Of weather.
Lord BRoUGHAN, having listened very attentive
ly to the discussion thought he might take very
shortsighted view OF the question, and say that Il
did not matter whether the British or the Greek
government were right or wrong Regarded in
that light, the British government might be COM
pared to a man who went into chancery for ElOO.
The government did worse, for II went into chan
Gerry for claims which were worth nothing. lie
denied that the government had International law
upon its side; and il was rghtlu, he said, 10 think
To what extent war might rage all over the
world, IL such doctrines as he had heard rashly
put forth in the House that evening, were to be.
come established. lie hoped their lordsbips would
do Justice to themselves in the public opinion Of
Europe, by shaking themselves free from the re-
cent proceedings in Greece. He confidently ex-
pected they would do so, and in saying this he
bore testimony TO the great ability and the peace
ful sentiments OF Lord PalRerston.
The House then divided when thsre appeared
Contents-Present ....... ..'..'s'. lls
Proxies. .......... DO
100
Non. Content Present. NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS.. TT
Proxies. .................. DO
II,
Majority against government. .......... 81
Their lordshps adjourned at quarter past three
o'clock.
Portugal.
Our advices from Lisbon are 10 the 9Th ultimo,
inclusive.
A correspondent at Lisbon says
According to news from w Washington, the Americas
claims upon Portugal to be considered by Con-
gress before being pushed to rupture between the