The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-09-29

senator win ts inclined 10 measure these services a. they
would any other services They services which were
rendered IN blood Their pensions were paid for ia
ASss as Ss q ss
amendment will not be adopted eN% e'T0a
The question being taken on this amendment. il was
Mr. JONES a now move TO strike GU, the word
treble" IN the third line OF the second section, and
insert the word ''double" That portion is in these
words: sa,9 We u ks d n
$50 q Asdb d s~asi.d, That for the loss in battle Of
- ss s y hs now allowed
The question being taken upon this amendment, il
Mr. JONES move still further to amend by striking
secon, ana inserting the word sdoublss The closing
part Of the section was as follows;
.And al the persons wounded as aforesaid shall receive
qaadsap hs a%0ua' now allowed BY law for the high
The question being taken upon this amendment was
NJ JONES There is clerical error in the seventh
line 81 the second section move to strike out''an arm
The PRESIDENT. This repetition, and win be
Rsss g i he provision. q this
bill, y has retroactive operation. move TO amend
the fret secionn the tenth line by striking QUIT the words
81 % sns from
time 81 The passage Of this act instead of the
ment OF The original pension -
N1h SVt~ro- IA Cohscht W tna'' VIA uioAo ~ w
M SHIELDS. Then you viii strike out the words
''to wit" in the thirteenth line.
The question being taken upon this amendment It was
Mr. MASON / offer The following amendment. to
come in al the end OF the last section;
lowed years the widow, II there be and i
not. the children Of the persons who living would
Mr.. FETCH. should like to inquire Of the senator
from Virginia be has any information by which he can
tell how extensive will be the application Of such prn
ciPl. fear i will have very broad application.
subject. know that OF the petitions upon which
this bill! was boomed was signed BY man IN the State
,nfn a ola man. VINE no never ~ , Pe
extreme want and having the highest claim upon the
bounty Of the country The general policy Of the PEN
children The benefit tina, would have accrued to the
sodier-to what extent do not know
Mr. FELCH. only, wish to say that some weeks
ago proposition somewhat similar 10 this was nirodu
ced into the Senate. asked that il might be laid over
until the next day, in order to make some inquiries into
found that the amount OF money which would be re-
quired compensate the heirs under this provision would
be from, 100000 TO million OF dollars How far this
may extend. am unable to say and, without knowing
something about it, unwilling to pass upon this
matter / wish 10 act literally in regard 10 pensions
but am unwilling to pass upon such proposition az
this, without knowing something more definitely about
its extent do not think ought to upon il in this
Mar. Smith. Mr., President have no, given much
attention this subject, but il stfikes that ii this
amendment prevails called upon TO pay pensions to
adus-not only to the widows and minor orphan chill
Sso put e adults S as ms ana mot oR 70 sdu No en-
not understand that this is the policy OF the government
as heretofore pursued. We have. know provided pen
sons for widows and minor children, but have no
knowledge that have ever done il for adult children
and think have Disseminated between those who
are poor and those who not The amendment proposed
BY my honorable friend from Virginia is too vague and
indefinite Il is not safe for us to act upon in the
Mr. BRIGHT think this amendment is entirely too
broad The single referred 10 BY the honorable sem
ator from Virginia may have merit il and il il has, il
be will bring in bill will for il, and the Senate
will, presume, pass II TINS proposition embraces a
great deal The senator is unprepared TO say what
Der OF persons would be entitled to the benefit of il
The pension first goes the soldier and il he be dead
to the widow and ii there be widow, then TO the chill
dren other heirs do know precisely the terms.
The result will be to give profitable business TO agents
and jobbers That will be the enec,to set TO work set
OF men who live by that process 10 ascertain who are
entitled TO pensions, who may have claim set up for
them By possibility under the provisions Of the law
=
and 10 guarded as to cover more ground than eau
tous and iudicous system OF bounies TO deserving
ties of this will for IL; but will vote Tor no
amendment that will 90 10 the extent that fear this will
MIR. SHIELDS. fear this amendment will kill the
bin. il il is persisted in BY the honorable senator from
Mr MASON. This system of pensions in popular
government very dangerous at all times, and yet
driven to n We are oblg m order TO reach
the merilorious poor 10 make indscrmnate approp
alton, which applies alike TO the rich and poor But, as
stated the policy Of this country has been TO give PEN
sions to the widows and children OF those persons TO
whom they would 60 II liyng-at least for the term OF
five years have used the term children. and not heirs
am not gifted with that species OF prescience with which
some gentlemen are, which enables them 10 tell what
will kill bill and what will nvigoraie il think this
is right and submit 10 the Senate for their decision.
az have right TO do.
Mr.. JONES. move 10 amend the amendment by ma.
king il the minor beirs.n
Mr.. MASON. Minor children, presume. | suppose
- notthe intention to substitute the collateral heirs
Mr.. JONES accept the modification.
Mr. DAVIS, Of Mississippi want to state 10 the
Senate and 20 the chairman OF the Committee Military
Affairs, that we have put the widows OF soldiers upon
the footing those oil sailors the service Of the
United States So thai the widows and orphans OF sol
ders killed in battle, who died by OF wounds
received. disease contracted, OF injury received
the line OF their duty, and leaving widow and child
or children under ~ years OF age shall be put upon the
penson-rol and that this provision is made retroactive
far back 1s45 The better way will be TO put this
provision upon The general bill.
The question being taken upon the amendment to the
The question being then taken upon the amendment as
amended, u was not agreed 10.
The bill was then reported TO the Senate, and the
amendments which had been made in committee of the
whole were concured In
Mr. BRIGHT. | desire now, sir. TO renew the motion
ID strike out the fourth section OF the bill and upon this
question shall ask the yeas and nays
The yeas and nays having been ordered,
Mr. b. said: The Commissioner OF Pensions, as
He has gwen very substantial why il should be-
fam v.fh thc han ohe