Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1850-04-23

iI Mr hongIas vas then proceeding TO discuss the CalifoE'
mia question, when u..,..,a ,h,, thor,
was nothing before tho Stna'e. y '"' "SN
ment of the Senator from hehtuehy'
The Vice President sustained the point Of oruer,
Mr. Douolas said. that believing 1t was IN order 10 os,
cuss the subject proposed 10 'e ieeieu' u" "o'" .T
from the decision OF the Chan.
Messrs. Hale and Clay argued inc appear. .,a,
The Vice President was stating 'e pun" ''"' lin -
Mr. Douglas rose to state his view of the question.
Mr.. Mangum called the Senator 10 ORDER LOT ih'e''up''"s
Mr.. Douglas asked whether a Senator or the Char nna
the right To- The floor when both were about addressing 'e
M M,roum and Mr.. Clay. The Chair, always.
The Vice presiden, stated the grounds OF his decision
Nj. Douglas Withdrew his appear.
Mr. Miller made a point OF oiuer' "netmei "e ""'" ''""
of =. Senator from Kentucky was IN oroer.
MI. CLAW and MI. Miller debated tho question.
The Vice President oveIru'ed the poi"' oi''' 'N 49,
the amendment was in ORDER; i,4
Mr. BENTON said he would state the reasons why ne ms
~consIdereA the amendment out oil eider. .,
Mr.. XII /, called the Senator to order. The Chair decloeu
the amendment TO be in order, ana uniess IN appear >
Mr.. i MO, saia ,hat he nas going TO show The reason
why the Senate should not ADO. he Amendment "A'"
The Vice President said ,ta: il was in order.
Mr.. Benton. | have lea'''si something. lLaushlsii !,
He then read the amenc.nent of Mr.. Clay, and SAID '03'
r,is was m, 6rst lime the Anne. can Senate had ever ht.i
called mon n make such a dccl' ion as was conta'ncd i;
that amendment. II tina; amendment did pass ~ ~ot'
have to 90 through such parliamentary forms, that It's
" ",ae y, ,Udg" ~ hc marked as an epoch in the history Of x
American Senate. Ii passed, il, could not deprive hi', u
thu ripht 10 otier rs many amendments as lie thoutt' -
would he his duty to offer. Those amendments might NC
voted down, but the Senate would nave 10 cohe - Vii
vote upon ihcni all. INN =
out 10 deliberate upon the affairs Of the country. VIVA, ,
asked, would one think il he saw a doctor running h's:' y
n house? II would be supposed that some one WIS sn :,
Ii two doctors were seen going there, that IL was aahec-
rous; but when there were five, six, eight, ten, thirteen ooc'"ls
seen collected NJ one house, one would suppose, mat salhc
one wos DIVING. This committee would create alarm wheh
none was called for. If thirteen doctors were known 10 DC
sitting o. -he body of this poor republic, inc wnoic counuy
would suppose and believe that the republic was NJ IL ,si
gasp. The committee was caicVao" 9 ""
He Al great length opposed tho appointment of the corn
miitec. The amendment says that the committee are nor 20
h. guideI by the Senate. Who proposes this? He hoped
that no one of the thirteen proposed that inc senate shouu
not guide them. The proposition is. that the senale is ii'e.
rior 10 This committee of thirteen who are 10 oeci'' every
hing. IL was 4 proposition to stultify he Senate. Deco
rum required Il no one should vote wherein he was int
rested. He CALI j upon the thirteen then not 10 vote, out lei
The body of the Senate stulti.y itself. The thirteen persons had
been named, IhCir report and plan were ready. IL nad all been
arranged in a caucus. But, despite the efforts OF such e'u-
cuses, the Senate would have TO come 10 4 vote on eacn one
of the propositions, in some shape or another.
Mr.. Clay said he would like the Senator to tell what 70
means by saying that all had been arranged in caucus ihc
Senator is entirely mistaken in such n statement. tic had
never attended any caucus; but he would attend any caut's,
Of any party, if by 80 doing he could do any thing 10 restore
peace and harmony TO the nation, The Senator says he. :
rights So he has, but others have rights also, and Others
were as well prepared ms the Senator 10 ase.. and maintain
their rights. e question was, had the minority of n
Senate the right TO appoint n committee, and to rcilf 10 th.'
committee &c, tain subjects without instructions? be
thought they. had, and disapproved OF oil opposition which
was to defeat or delay the expressed wisl g of tho majority.
If they were TO hcarkcn TO what was said on the other
side of the Senate, one would suppose that there was no
United States, but that California had absorbed them all
He then alluded to the committees which were appointed II
the time Of the admission of Missouri, and SAID no lacuons
opposition was made then He reviewed tho reasons Tor
Keeping California separate from the territorial bills, and O.
posed that rolicy. He advocated the union of the two N
slrns and T. rmnlpntpu ilDOn The course OF Stgcrnl " ki.s
who were in favor oil leaving New Mexico under a military
government in a time of peace, and who had complained
of the late administration for establishing iI'iNaTy govern
Mr.. Benton raplicd-C California did not desire to absorb ali
the other States; she was n.""l'. asking IL become one IN
thirty -oac. Tho Senator i4'n -entacky said, 4 few days
ayo ,hnt California hal lunaway match; and RoX
turned up hcr nose ct n; married sisters. If California
he'd mad. a runaway !rei,' she had not made a runaway
match n h runaway negroes; and if her unmarried sisters
DO happen 10 many into that firmly, he thought it likely
that California would, if they came round her, not only ar"
up her nose, but would ptty mp her nose also.
He again commented upon the amendment Of Mr.. Clay
declaring j; % be, in effect, the previous question. lie Was
not much in favor OF compromises. On Thursday last IL
had made one with the Senator from Kentucky, and accept
ed as a substitute for his own an amendment drawn by that
Senator. lie supposed the Senator would vote for his own
compromise but the Senator had moved this morning 10
destroy il. With this experience III compromises he did not
feel ut liberty To enter into any others. If the amendment
should be adopted, he would renew all his amendments.
Mr.. Douglas said that three test votes had been takoo,
and the Scuat, had decided that il would have this commit
tee. He did not think, then, that he was authorized TO con
tinue u factious opposition 10 il for thereby he would b,
giving precedent and license for another lachous minority TO
keep California cut of the Union. If this committee would,
as it was said, result in 4 farce, he infinitely preferred that
conclusion to one which nigh; result in a tragedy.
Mr.. Webster said that he ,hon"ht the amendment .. he
Senator from Kentucky was out ut order.
Mr., Foote said the Senator was not perhaps aware thar
the Chair had ruled it IN he in order.
The Vice President said that he had ruled tho amcndmai,r
to be in order.
Mr.. Webster said ,ha, all tina, did not deprive him of ~
right of saying why Senators should not vote against it
n .hntl,pr ~ kvo in N plgpF nj IN SPnntt Ia
TIE amendment 10 cut Oh other amendments.
MIR. Clay replied 10 the Senator.
Mr.. Hale said that the amendment, 80 Far rs II was inten
ell TO cut of other amendments, was nngatory.
Mr.. Clay supported hs amendment.
Mr.. Hale then opposed the appointments OF the Commute.
He knew that the only objection To the admission ol Caller
MIA was, because she had adopted the principles OF freedom
in her constitution.
MIR. Foote called the Senator 10 order for attacking tho
motives of others.
Mr.. Hale continued. Ic had heard that such was -.
.alsc of opposition outside the Scna:c; bn., in the lan.unct
vi Inc amendment, he did not deem it necessary In express,
in asSlnce, his opinion of what the cause OF opposition -
the Senate was. He knew that the Sonth would trininrh.
He knew the free States would be defeated. He Knew t'
free States would be beaten; and all ne wanted was, th''
when they were in the dust, beaten and troddcn upon, tha'
they wou'l not be pointed at, nor the remark made one"
used by a .ireinian, "We bought you dog cheap"
We (thn North arc destined TO defeat, and to a def I BY
northern ,nea. tic you'd venture on another opinion, that
when sa cry had u%iunphed, aui the Noitl, rs ii always
had been, vas 7 :icated, certain .ntlemcn on their return
would discove. ;nat Q great ch .se had taken place in t2
northern climate. and that the country was too hot for then.
MIR. Cay said that there r"'s 10 destined defeat oil IN"
North; no destined triumph u the South. There was a des-
tined Triumph for tho Union. Neither North nor South VS.
10 triumph, or be defeated. The country-the Union was -
triumph. No defeat except Tor the ultra Aboitionists az:
fanatics. (Appiausc) There will bo Il triumph of PATRIOTS
over fanaticism. The ultra Abolitionists would be defea +:
because their element would DO destroyed by a compfom;
They would be like the people of old crying in the wide
ness.
MI. Foote said that he appealed TO NIL those who Ogree!
with the Senator from Kentucky to abstain from further o.
debate.
Mr.. Mangum suggested, and Mr.. Clay modified b
amendment, so as To insert after the word necessary .
words sand therefore declines"
The question being taken on Mr.. Clay's amendment 10 the
amendment of MI. Benton, il was decided in tbs affirmative.
as follows:
YEAs-Mcssrs. a,chison, Badger, Bell, Borland, Butler,
Cass, Clay, Clemens, Davis Of Mississippi, Dickinson,
Dodge of Iowa, Douglass Downs, Footc, Hunter, Jones,
King, Margrun, Mason, Morton, poirco, Rusk, Sebastian,
Soule, Spruancc, Sturgeon, Tnrney, Underwood, and iu-
lcc-M.
NAys-Mcssrs. Baldwin, Ecnton, Bradbury, Bright, Chase,
Clarke, Corwin, Davis OF Massachusetts, Dayton, Dodge vi
Wisconsin, Fetch, Greene, Hale, Hamlin, Miller, Noris,
Phelps, Seward, Shields Smith, Walker, and Whitcomb-2:.
The question was then taken on the amendment rs amen
dcd, uhat is, adding MIR. Clny's amendment to Mr.. Foote's
motionJ and it was adopted.
Mr.. Hamlin moved to amend the motion of Mr.. Focie,
by excepting { ON the reference every thing relating TO Cal
ifornia.
MIR. Clay made a point OF order that this amendment hai
been rejected on Thursday last.