The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-01-15
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voting sg.ns, the charter Of The United SIXTIES Bank
and MIR Clay had ayaed himself OF his constitutions
right, as member. address The Chair in Committee
the Whole on the state Of the Union. He lML Nice
would not hesitate, were the permission given By
changing the rule proposed by the committee 10 volt
on al questions arising.
rule; which would leave il al the discretion Of The
Speaker whn the rules) to vote not when his name
Mr. WINTHROP was understood Tin explanation, ID
suggest that il in the power Of any member to inss
on ms voting when his name was called, unless excused
ihe ms s!rt by y, the ELI House : ! .,,, -
be compelled TO vote on all questions. lie was conen
with the change proposed the report Of the committee
and with that moved BY the gentleman from Massachu
| Mr.. yINTON inquired what would be the effect OF
call Tor the previous question; and
The SPEAKER was understood to say, to bring the
House at once to vote upon each change proposed IN
Mr. r. KING desired 10 have reported to the House
proposition he wished to offer before the previous ques
| The SPEAKER stated the amendment Of the gentle
man from Massachusetts amendment to the amend
Mr.. WINTHROP doubiedwhether. as such. it would
Mr.. McLANE desired to have proposition. which he
designed osring as substitute for portion OF the rec
ommendaiion OF the committee, read to the House
which was, to require the Speaker to vote in all Of
election, and on all calls OF yeas and nays.
Mi bA lily y a. lew remarks. argued 70 sustain tae
Mr. WINTHROP He was not in favor OF allowing the
Speaker 10 mnge in the excitement generally existing
alton and entire freedom from excitement, The Speaker
mr. b, hought had time for the due consideration
Of the numerous questions coming before the House
standingy If the proposition to strike out the 10th rule
be adopted, he will be compelled 80 to vote The legsa
tue of Virginia followed closely the custom Of the Brit
power of the Speaker which course MIR. B. was I'M
derstood 10 remark should be followed here In that e
gisature except upon aqueson Immediately affecting his
own constituents, he was not allowed the privilege OF
speaking and only voted when his vote would affect the
Mr.. MecLERNAND suggested that MI. John w.
man to preside in his place, had addressed the House
Mr.. BAYLY. That was in the case OF a contest for
his seat in Congress; and therefore his course was
Mr.. MEADE desired to give notice OF his intention to
oier substitute for the 18th rule proposition to
permit the Speaker to vote in all cases. at his own dis
Mr.. A. EVANS considerd the amendment proposed by
the committees to the 18th rule proper and sufficient and
trusted the House would vote npon it.
Mr. MORSE hoped that all amendments supplemental
y 10 those reported by the committee to the 18th rule
would be voted down. The committee had considered
the carefully and had probably
TO the 18th rule conferred upon the Speaker the right
vote when he pleased without compelling him to vote,
except where BY 60 doing be will affect the result
The debate on the proposition to amend the twelfth rule
was further continued by Messrs. MORSE, McLANE,
CLEVELAND. (who were opposed TO compelling the
Speaker or TO permitting him 10 take such part in the de-
liberations OF the House as would make him partisan
10 the discharge of the duties of the chair and by Mr.
A. 9. BROWN. who conceived that the Speaker could,
notwithstanding the 18th rule. Mr. B. was in favor Of
adopting the amendment 10 the rule reported by the CON-
mitiee.
the amendment TO the 18th rule, proposed by the CON-
m,tee on Rules.
Mr.. ROBINSON, rising to point of order. asked the
Chair whether having adopted the first paragraph OF the
report the House would not be governed after the 18TH
by the rules OF the last session. subject be amended
proposed u the report OF the committee.
The SPEAKER answered in the affirmative.
Mr.. WINTHROP here continued the debate at some
length arguing against the propiety OF bringing the
Speaker to mngle in business on the floor, and TO show
that his duties, as the presiding officer OF the House
were such as to prevent him from understanding
all the questions coming up to enable him, il voting
to vote understandingly on all.
OF the report be postponed until Monday next.
Mr. SCHENCK suggested that the effect Of the adop
ton OF that motion would be to postpone the adoption OF
The question was then put by tellers, on the motion to
pospone, and il not agreed tothe yeas and nays
theIeupon having been asked and refused.
The debate on the amendment proposed by the COM
mttee to the 18th rule of the House then contn-
ued by Mr.. STANTON, who argued to show the pro-
pretty Oh placing the Speaker, lar as his rights and
responsibilities are concerned equality with other
members OF the House after which.
Mr.. TUCK spoke for few moments in favor OF re.
strictng the Speakers right TO vote and speak, at
present. uader the rules and urged that all being pre-
pared TO vote on the report the question upon should
be put to the House without lohger delay.
The question the first amendment proposed by the
Committee Rues"In the ID line OF rule 2 insert be-
tween the words mot and vote the words be required
to'y-was then put and agreed TO.
Mr.. STANTON moved TO amend the ldth rule, by
striking out the words 'uipd voce" and inserting the
words "by ballof-which was then put; and II was
agreed 10.
The question upon the cd amendment, proposed by the
Committee on Raes-"ln 18th rule, strike out the words
Postmaster General was then put; and II was agreed
to.
The question upon the 81 amendment proposed by the
Committee on Rules
After the word 'egsa,urs" in the llh line Of the l7h
rule, insert 'ihc members OF tho legislatures for time
being Of the States and Terriior,es'-
W9s then put; and IL was agreed 10.
Mi BROWN OF Indiana moved to strike out OF the 18th
rule the words commissioners OF the navy board !"
which agreed TO.
Mr.. JOHNSON OF Arkansas moved TO strike out OF
the 18th rule the words treasurer comptroller register
and auditors - which motion not agreed 10.
The fourth amendment reported by the Committee on
Rules was here reported TO the House as follows
Add to the end Of the l7,h rule the following "And
person not knowa 10 the doorkeeper be entitled 10 the
privilege Of the floor shall the hail. unless the door
keeper shall be informed by member that the ind vidual
Is entitled TO admission under this rule" Ha.4
Mr.. JAMES. THOMPSON trusted that il would not
he urred in II