New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1850-06-10

much DO you think you would love Mayor smith If
he were ~ have you logged as have supposed ?
Suppose the commander Of q vessel SEXES M 4
sailor for some trfilg-or, II YOU please fr anna
gross oiielse, orders him % b. whipped, degraaes
him in the eyes Of the crew DESTROYS his &c ire.
fpect DO you not think the sufferer Will cherish
hatred in his Utmost heart, Tor that officer and for
all officers he will most certainly, If he be not
more than human. What is pr1posed % be eff e.
ed by floggingl To insure authorization. dutv.
active exeriiOn, and to deter from mutiny Bat |
maintain that hogging is practically sabversive Of
the very objects desired 10 be attained Suppose
l send two vessels 70 sea-equal in size. and in
number Of officers and men. Il shall be proclaim.
Cd before q msn is shipped that on one ship there
81 ali be no Horgng--on the other the lash as now
used. On tie first We will advise. counsel try 70
reform the disobedient; If that fail, take portion
81 bis wages by way OF penalty which when We
get 10 port we viii give fer support Of Naval Hos
ptals, 50 that it shall still benefit the sailor. On
the other vessel, the dis0bedient should be
straishtway lashed up and logeed. Which do
you think would get the best crew. Do YOU think
any person who had an opportunity 70 go in the
first would ship On the whipping vessel unless be
had lost every grain of sefrespect nave heard
it said that sailors have no right % complai be.
cause they know before they 20 on 4 Government
vessel what they are 70 expect This looks % me
Ike strange reason and ! aypreheli that
good men in the Navy-they must take those
or mainly those, who have lost the high chivalry
and selErespect for which the true sailor is dstin
guishod. / submit that were it proclaimed to NOR
row that there should be DO more hOggiDg in the
Navy-that imprisonment and fines should be sub
stituted in place Of the cat-we should get better
men-men OF more mind and higher chsracter-
Then, too we will ask why are the men and not
the officers whipped Suppose two men-one ig-
norant and the other edueated-should commit
murders; which would most deserve hanging .
Take any other offense who most deserves severe
punishment-the wellinformed, intelligent man. or
the poor ignorant man, who has never had an op-
porunity to become educatedl know there must
be rank in the Navy-wherever Government is TO
be exercised there must be a head: but when you
come to punishment, say all should stand on a
common level-all should be whipped, or nome
The officers Of ship deserve whipping more than
the'ssilor, when they violate rules | am aware
that there must be disciplinei and say nothing
against the officers Of our Navy, many Of whom are
kind and feeling men, though there are some sorry
exceptions-aId to such exceptions why should
the sailor be subject If Navy must be kept up
by monarchies for certain purposes, logging may
be necessary but the American sailor, whose duty
il is TO protect the rights of all-over whose head
the brilliant stars and stripes proclaim that he and
all men "are born free and equal" to fog him is
en- outrage upon humanity and en- insult to liberty
which the coerced the logged sailor is brought to
battle and those Of the free and sefrespected sea-
man, and thought the issue Of a contest between
them was far from doubtful. Finally, said he, am
glad that Mr. Haynes has called this subject be-
fore our citizens and hope it will not rest until
we are heard, and heard effectually, at Washing
ton. Mr. Haynes and the cause in which he il en-
geged have my heartiest wishes for triumph.
Mr.. TAPPAS.-Sxty years ago it was customary
TO fog officers in the British Navy. The Prince Of
w ales alterward George w, was logged, and in-
stead Of sy mpathy, when he laid the case before
his father, the King publicly thanked the Admiral
for thus sustaining the discipline. However, the
MOBILES who had, or hoped to have sons in the
navy took the matter up, and 1t was not long after
decreed that officers should be exempt from cor.
pOreal punishment l was very much Affected
lately by reading that some bood-thrsty Austrian
officer ordered a Hungarian nobleman to be logged
and that at the second blow the unfortunate man
fell dead under the foul indignity. This high sen.
timent Of honor and selfprde should be cultivated
ms well in the breast OF the sailor as in that Of the
nobleman.
Rev T. B. THAYER then made a brief speech,
which we should like 10 report al length but want
Of space prevents US He referred TO the cry
Fanatic" against those engaged in the cause
such was the early fate OF al reforms; such was
the cry against Luther and against Columbus, ald
even against our venerated fathers when they
dared TO rebel against the colossal power Of Great
Britain. But these men were glorious fanatics
glorious dresmers We, in this reform have a
great work TO do, and few must do it. There are
two classes in society-the locomotives, who do the
work, and the brakemen-or the brakes the IL
selves, rather, who are always peering around t1e
wheels, 10 see il there is not danger some where-
to Spy out ruin and wreck; men Of no head aad
less heart, who howl Fanatic" at all who dare 10
60 ahead Such are some of the officers who say
we know nothing Of naval business the young
NTH hrioht huffoua nd farao ho
may have seen the ssh OF gun, tell as it is Of
use TO try and reform the sailor. We are not to
throw the responsibility of these abuses the Gov.
ernment we are the Government, and 1t is cur
business. The Rev. gentleman dwelt severely on
the rum selling, or rum retailing by the Govern
ment-the making Of each Government vessel a
floating rum shop Look at the idea of great and
liberal Government saying to her citizens: will
give you so much money per day and all the rum
you want to drink if you will come and sail my
ships" We make the sailor a tiger and then
complain that be is not lamb. Bat deny that
sailors as degraded as officers represent; they
are men, as noble as any men in the land. Mr. T.
gave glowing eulogy Oh the warm heartedness,
kindness and hberality OF the sons of the ocean,
who while we grudgngly eked out sixpence for
charity would give their last dollar aud trust to
Heaven for the next days dinner. The speaker
would put books on board ships in place Of rum
cssks-ectures and instruction in place of the cat
and the colt he wished the people to look at the
matter as personal thing-as something which
concerned each one ofus; and let each one resolve
not to rest until this foul stain OF rum and hoggng
is sweptfrom our escutcheon-lete each one become
missionary for the cause. Mr. I. spoke in strain
of high indignation at the revolving spectacle of
whipping aman-making devil Of one Of Gods
human children. He told the fearful revenge OF the
old sailor who had served in the English navy for
forty years and at last logged iorknocking over
an upstar midshipman who had insulted him. The
old man nearly became lunatic; he watched bis
opportunity, and one day saw the MILDLY on the
bowspnt; he sprung at him like tiger, seized
him with grasp Of iron, leaped overheard. When
they were got out both were dead, the young officer
locked in the arms of the aged sailor Such was the
efectof fogging upon noble old sailor. We are
sowing the same seed and, as individuals, are re-
spcnsibe for the fruit it may bring. He closed by
strong appeal for untring effort TO put down this
abomnation.
EDWIN r. CoLsroS then read the following pre-
amble and resolutions: