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shall feel bound to insist upon it.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. | will state the limit OF my remarks
and the Chair may then decide propose to extend ny
necessary to reply to the charge OF the senator from Ken
lucky upon the identical motion which is now 1890
4 Mr.. FOOTE RAISE the point OF order, sir. ] un
derstood the senator from Kentucky to throw out sim
pie suggestion L may have been out Of order in or
der; that s nothing to the present purpose. My point
this that il is not In order under the question now be-
fore the Senate, to go into the discussion o the bill fol
| the admission OF California into the Union
4 The VICE PRESIDENT The Chair is OF opinion tha
that subject forcgn TO the question now under consd
Grafton and ~ thepoint OF order is insisted upon, the
Chair will be obliged to sustain it.
i Mr. DOUGLAS. viii refrain, then, from further re-
mark upon that point and hope the Senate will refrain
| from remarks indicating contrary opinion.
/ Mr.. HALE. II the senator will give way for tha
purpose. will move that the senator have leave to pro-
Mr.. DOUGLAS. do not desire the Senate to depar
4 from s usual course upon my account. The senator
from Kentucky made remark which, regarding the po
sion which / held, thought, though made with the
best motives upon his part, impeached my care, dill
gence and attention. as chairman Of the committee in the
preparation OF the bill, to such extent that thought i
due to myself and due to the committee to vindicate thai
irain; and il the motion Of the honorable senator from
Missouri prevails, 10 take up the California bill, shall
then take the floor to vindcate the bill; if not, shall
| feel bound to do it upon these resolutions.
Mr.. FOOTE. | hope my friend from Illinois under
stands that do not wish he should be misunderstood
II had considered him having already combated
Win c0nslderaDle eHect Suggestion OF the senator
from Kentucky y-f had not considered the war about
as it stoodI certainly should not have nterposed
Mr.. CLAY. wish to make single remark. Ger
anly expressed deliberately formed opinion whether
the admission Of California, without any provision for
the security OF the public lands within the States would
or would not forfeit the property OF the United States
But sir, notwithstanding all that has been said. shall
insist, whenever The right time comes, that as pre-
csuonary measure, there should be clause insert
ed declaring the retention by the government OF the Uni
ted States Of the public lands in California i s not
necessary, however 60 into discussion Of the sub
ec should be very glad to find, after such discus
sion, that no such clause is necessary.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. am prepared to show that It is not
ment that will remove the doubts upon the matter
Mr.: BUTLER inquired what was the question be-
The VICE PRESIDENT stated the question upon the
motion amend offered by the senator from Kentucky
Mr. BENTON. withdrew the motion to lay upon
the table, to give the senator from Kentucky an oppou
nifty of speaking and continued that withdrawal for other
gentlemen.
Mr. BUTLER Ibid not rise to make any remark at
ALL but simply to inquire whether the question was upon
the motion to take up the California bill or the amend
ment OF the senator from Kentucky
The VICE PRESIDENT. There was no motion to
take up the California bill and such motion will not
be in order until the question pending is disposed Of
Mr.. BENTON. II no other gentleman wishes TO
speak, lay this subject upon the table for the
purpose Of taking up the California bill; and upon that
question ask for the yeas and nays
The question being then taken by yeas and nays it
was decided in the negative by yeas "a, nays 2s as fol-
lows:
YEAs--Messrs Baldwin, Benton, Bradbury Chase,
Clarke corwin, Davis Of Massachuses Dayton Dodge OF
Iowa. Dodge ofWsconsin, Douglas Fech, Greene, Hale,
Smith, Walker, and Webster-oa
NAYS-Messrs Atchison, Badger, Bell Borand, Bright.
son, Downs, Foos, Hunter, King, Mangum, Mason Nor.
ton PeaTce Rusk Sebastian, soue Spruancs Sturgeon,
Turney, Underwood, Whitcomb, and Yuee-2S.
SO the motion to lay on the table was not agreed to.
The question recurring upon Mr.. CLAY's amendment TO
the amendment Of Mr; BgSros,
for me 10 conclude my remarks
The VICE PRESIDENT stated that the objection was
the eeyancy OF the remarks OF the senator to the ques
lion pending, and 4 that 4 objection was not removed
my remarks not considered relevant, certainly
desire to be heard upon that point
Mr.. MANGuM. | rise to point Of order. ! under
stand the question TO be upon the amendment OF the sena
: The VICE PRESIDENT. That is the only motion
now under consideration.
Mr.. DOUGLAS Yes, sir; but desire TO call the
attention OF the Chair to this fact. Here is motion TO
refer the resolutions offered by the senator from Kentucky
and those offered BY The senator from Tennessee with
tons refer include the admission Of California into the
Union.
Mr.. FooTE., ! rise to point Of order. There is
nothing before the Senate upon the subject
Mr.. DOUGLAS | was discussing point oil order
myself
tSeveraI undertone suggestions were here made by
rous senator's almost simultaneously and naudible at
Mt DOUGLAS Well, sir. IL gentlemen desire to
drive me TO it, | shall certainly appeal.
Mr. F00rE. am driving no
Mr. DOUGLAS. The OF my appeal is this
The question OF the admission OF California has been dis
cussed here week. The bill that reported has been
read TO the Senate By senator's here every word OF IT,
word for word, and each line commented upon II has
been attacked II has been defended by every senator
who chose 10 make speech for against that bill.
Reading has been permitted Every senator who chose
to defend that bill has been permitted to do and pow
ask upon what principle il is that il not in order for
the author OF the bill TO defend Il asains, this very impu
taton, and that he Is 10 be left out
Aud, sir, maintain that il is strictly in order by the
very terms Of the motion The motion is 10 refer the adj
mission OF California, the creation OF territorial govern
ments the discussion OF the slavery question in the Dis
trict OF Coumbia-all TO a committee And, sir, is
possible that Il is not in order 10 discuss the very
measure you propose to refer Each other senator has
done IT, and merely ask permission to do that which
each senator upon each side Of the house has done and
especially when il is for my vndication and upon
this ground appeal.
Mr. HALE | endeavored to suggest to the Chair
time ago this motion for think that the Chair
have misapprehended the subject before the Senate
The resolutions OF the senator from Tennessee tMr
BELL1 and the senator from Kentucky Mr. CLAy1 both
coverthe whole ground in the broadcast pro-
posed 10 the Senate by this resolution 10 refer TO this
mee. The honorable senator from Missouri [Mr
BEsToNl proposes certain set OF resolutions and in
sructons, and the senator from Kentucky proposes TO
strike out all those instructions, and 10 refer this whole
subject without any instructions at all Now, sir, does
TO that there be any possible phase in whici
this question can be presented to the Senate, ought
to give II the broadcast latitude, and give the widest scope
OF discussing anything which may grow out OF the ques-
tons That the exact position In which this question
now stands before the Senate and for the purpose
OF making this suggestion that endeayored TO obtain