The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-06-22
Mr.. DAVIS. Of Mississippi. Yes.

applied 70 tns proposition IN regard 10 California now
/ Mr. DAVIS, OF Mississippi. No, the cases are very
different Texas Independent State, with GER
tain part OF her territory undisputed Some part was 10
dispute but the part undisputed and which did hnay
remain part o the State of Texas still large enough to
| be divided
Mr. BERRIEN. There certainly is a diversity be,
tween the OF Texas and California, suggested
by the senator from Mississippi. The boundaries Of
Texas were unascertained. however, and the United
States had the right TO ascertain them Now, the Other
objection made by the senator from Mississippi would
be operative with me, if the provision attempted 70
be inserted in the bill could not be cotemporaneous with
one describing and limiting the boundaries OF California
ticpae the Other. hope therefore, that the senator
from Mississippi will not urge his objection to the amend
%sn' which seems 70 mel me- having been presented in
/ Mr. DAVIS, OF Mississippi. The bill calls on me TO
in relation to this matter before the bill is passed;
therefore my vote will not be cotemporaneous with the
admission OF California State; it must precede that
order OF business Then, again, hope when California
is admitted, will be with the exact limits she should
have as State, and no more i for one, certainly can
not consent to admit empire the Pacific, with q
prohibition Of slavery in its constitution, SO that future
States may be carved out OF under the moulding iniu
Of that constitution It is but another mode to ac
complish the end, and eifecual than the
famous Wilmot Proviso.
Mr.. KING 1 myself have taken the same view Of
this que stoA the honorable senator from MISSISSIPPI
Mr. DAVIS think we should be little cautious how
we provide Tor the formation o new States out OF tins
territory until we ascertain what limits we intend 70 as
sign TO California. The objection, however, which
weighed upon my mind at first is somewhat relieved, be.
causes il we fail in having the limits OF California
duced prior TO her admission (and ii other senator
troduces amendment for that purpose, am determined
myself to do so)f fail in that, It will become ques-
lion whether cannot provide in this way for the d-
vision of California and the formation OF new States.
There diversity Of opinion upon this subject There
many who think that there ought TO be provision
Tor making such new States out OF this immense terri
mitted with its full extent Indeed whether we make
shat provision or not, the government q the United
m State he mnl n On
is, whether you will express the opinion in this bill that
her boundary is too large It amounts TO that think
it ought TO be divided, and that 1t may tend to lead to that
event declare this opinion and. if so divided, the
people ought to have the privilege OF coming into the
Union with or without slavery, as they shall see Il
of such subsequent division OF the State, the States
would be most likely to become free Sates-the present
constitution OF California acting on the formation OF the
future character oil those States and excluding that
species Of property in which the shareholders OF the
South exclusively nteresed-and that therefore this
provision would act in favor Of those who are anxious 10
| carve out States
have always said that would be in favor of the for.
nation OF States with reasonable boundaries We should
he o
manner OF objection with wish that 10 be distinctly
understood II is entire mistake that OF the South
struggling in this matter, with view to prevent a
State coming the Union because its constitution pro.
hlbts slavery No such thing. We neither wish to die
tate TO TO restrain them We wish them to act accord
ing to their voon, and to be governed by what they
deem best for themselves and having acted having
complied with the requson, and having limited them
selves to proper boundary, then we say admit them
| am greatly at loss 10 decide whether II would be
best take this amendment proposed 1t amounts
10 nothing than what can be done hereafter by a
majority OF Congress, with the assent OF California;
she should be admitted by forming out OF her extended
territory States; and the only difference is, that
declares in advance that the people thus cut oh with
the assent of California, shall have the power OF regula
ting their internal affairs And thai is the principle
migrated, strictly speaking in the constitution sub.
staniay in its spirit il not in its letter, though think
II in the letter OF the constitution, because States
TO be admitted equal footing with their consttu
tons, and you apply condtonvha does not please
them: the constitution is in spirit in favor OF allowing
new States to come in upon precise equality with other
States, and you can restrict them in no way.
Upon the whole in order to enable the honorable
tor from New Hampshire to show to the world whether
he is in favor OF his amendment not, think
shall vote for IT, reserving 10 myself, when the bill comes
up, determine whether will adhere 10 II then or not
the boundary OF California is altered then II will, Of
course be necessary 10 strike out this amendment am
for altering the boundary OF California Il have no
hesitation saying It should be al,ered and fear that
unfortunately The slavery question WIN prevent us from
OF doing; and that 10 give TO California such bounda
ries reasonable and proper for such State 'front.'
ing upon the Pacific III you 90 the whole length OF sea-
coast from the State OF Maine to North Carolina you
will not have greater extent OF seacoast than Caor
MIA has. think that il gentlemen will look at it
calmly and dispassi0ately yand they ought not To iea
according TO their doclrine--that il they do limit this
territory TO reasonable mits-large, If you please, but
not extensive proposedif they believe what they
only State there, bat two The chances OF getting
two States in their iavor shall vote Tor The amend
ment present, and without much feeling in favor OF it,
and esetvng the right OF rejecting II, provided the Terri
tory OF California can be restricted in the bill.
MIR. HALE. The senator from Alabama wants TO try
experiment that will be avery difficult in the pres
eat stale oil Mings; and that s, how will vote upon
my own amendment think, II could vote my prop
ostion unmnei with the additions OF the senator from
Mississippi, would not hesitate TO say hew would
vote; but regards the present combination, do not
know. That is another question altogether.
But the senator from Mississippi says, IN auson 10 the
honorable senator from Kentucky, that his amendment
put in Tor toe purpose OF killing mine in other
words that had introduced into the omnibus" bill
passenger, and he puts in something else to
throw him out That is something like the raj and the
weasel. Now, do not like il have intfoduceI a
very respectable gentleman into the omnibusa itee
take OF him. This is the compound, and in that
combned state do not altogether like the proposition
will be candid with the senaor iron Alabama, and tell
him Whist my intention IN Offering the amendment was
II very much like that OF toe senator from Louis
lana, TO leel the pulse OF gentemen" Well, sir he ap
piled his fingers adFoty yesterday, and found the pulse
OF the Senate in favor OF reassetng and inserting
every abstraction that favored slavery Now, wanted
to Try the pulse OF the Senate, 10 il il beat with an
and have found that II did not. II with that in
ienton that introduced the amendment. Well, have
found out, and how IL will heat The freeman can
not get into the omnibus without taking the black man
wth him Having asceralnei that, would long ago have
withdrawn my amendment, but honorable gentle
men objected loit Seeing cannot withdraw il, ask the
yeas and nays
The yeas and nays were ordered
Mr.. HUNTER. This proposition, il understand il,