The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-09-15


some attention and as there bill before the Judiciary
Committee to organize judiciary system there, oil
shall have 10 come 10 some conclusion as 10
The salary of the judges. cannot tell what amount these
commissioners ought TO have, or in what way that
amount ought TO be regulated think would he better
to adopt plan something like than OF the from Mis-
Than 10 fix arbitrary amount high AS $1,000
think still biler course, II we could attain u, would
be to give certain sum and 10 regulate the salaries
IN California hereafter by scale 10 depend upon the
prices of certain commodities there II may be that prices
will come down and may be that they will rse IL Is
difficult subjects and hope that those acquainted with
the prices there will take this matter into consideration
Mr. GWIN Only word These Indian tribes are
generally at the foot of the Sierra Nevada and y makes
no difference how great the population may be N Call
is exceedingly difficult 10 get there There - large
portion OF county winch you cannot reach WIN car
rage and provisions must be high there for long time
When the prices FALL am in favor OF reducing the sala
ries shall always be in favor of reducing salaries
when il be done with safety the public interest Al
present am perfectly confident that you cannot obtain
men TO perform the duties OF this Office, il you give less
than $3 600 and travelling expenses.
Mr.. RUSK. have no difficulty IN voting Tor this sal
AIRY Of IS 900; and in addition TO that, the law does
moi authorize H. to pay Tor the mileage besides II is
matter OF vast importance that in the first intercourse We
have with the Indians oil that country, we should acl
with nderstanding Of their rights and also OF their
habits Ii that the persons who are appoint
ed should not be in the character OF Indian agents gen
orally but should be selected from men having knowl
edge OF and capacity TO understand their habits and their
feelings II dhcult matter 10 understand the Mex
can and SpaAish Legislation upon this subject. Their
laws are not readily accessible; u VIII take great
deal oil lime 10 hunt them w, l appTehend II Will be
found thai there not the relations between the
government and all the lbes OF Indians but will
be regarded wandering Indians and others as settled
Pueblo Indians having tights than the others I'm
der all the circumstances It Is matter of importance
that The first prom SEES make, the hrst treaties we
make with them should be made with understanding
OF the whole Of the circumstances OF the case, and that
they shall CONTROL they necessarily will do, all the
policy with respect TO them Under these circum-
stances and considering The expenses o living III Cali.
ld.I
Mr.. BELL | lake, sir, a very different view of This
question IRON thai contained in the propositions before the
Senate from that which senators 10 take, Judg
ing IRON what has fallen from them. wish 10 ask the
attic nton Of Tie senators from California 10 the views
take Of this subject that they may see whether those
not entitled 10 some consideration. My OPINION
that The agents the proper persons 10 form treaties
with those Indian rbvsior il Is supposed thai they
TO be commissioners to treat al the same ilme--and
think there is sound policy in making provision To-
this purpose, and in settling her salaries with reference
to that object Ii the Indian character in that country
for which we are now providing IS such as we have
found other sections OF the continent under our jn-
rSclion, the would have very little control over
the Indians, it, having the power TO make arrange
enter INTO agreement the part OF the gov
Mt with .hen extending curlailng what they
clam to be Their rights the territory, III restricting
the compensation the REIMBURSEMENT OF their rights,
they do deal with most nDera justice Ii the Indians
find t,at they have moi been Literally dealt with, the
agent will not he likely 10 continue his control over
hen that there is tendency, always acting upon
the mind oil efficient olcer oil the government IN con
trolling them and preserving kindly disposition and
amcable temper on their pa towards the government 10
make them very large and liberal allowances.
Again, sir, alter you have appointed Tor the In
dian tribes their different localities, and they directed
by the Executive TO take up those several positions, the
Executive catnot appoint agents TO have contrib over
those matters. not how high may be the induce
nenis, but they will be likely 10 form business interests
and have friends, aad o,ne influences will be brought 10
bear upon them, WHICH viii prevent Their acting or de-
Gliding with exactly that impartaliiy Which ,!esr
able in making any Official arrangements with those In
dams for the renq oil their claims Commits
soners should no, be appointed at all until after The
agents have ascerained the true, stale OF the the
true nature aud character OF the claims When the
President shall have been fully informed upon these sub
jecis think il very likely that i VIII be found to be
discreet and proper 10 appoint commissioners who
would not have residence among The Indians OF any
localities and who would be concerned TO make judcious
government but OF The indians, and to that pr
vae and local interest shall in any way be subserved
by the treaties formed with the Indians
will that although il has not been stated here
the honorable senator before MIR FREMONT stated
this morning that he estimates that there $4,000
Indians within The limits Of the State oil California, some
OF whom have been subjected To The Spani>h gov
eminent. They wild and savage Indians, as con-
slider them on this side o: the Rocky mountains There
great numbers OF tribes. When we appoint AGENTS,
eiore aler they shall have been there sufficient
length oil inform themselves, and when they have
taken steps 10 obtain the information, think may be
proper Tor the President and II may DC necessary, very
early, 10 have some understanding with these Indians
My point that the agents not tue proper persons
10 treat They are The proper persons To gain the Goa
Ience oil the Indians 10 OBTAIN the DailOn
require, Then, il the President thinks proper 10 lei
them treat, let them do IT,
SO lar this bears upon the proposition oil the honor.
able senator from California, who moved 10 amend BY
inserting 5000, do know that there much weight
ia the Argument for raising Il to - OOO II may be
small compensation. considering The sttte oil things there
hut II strikes me ss unnecessarily high cannot
suppose that prices and salaries viii continue there
der State government, and under the United States
government Tor many years the present high but
take ii for ganted that things will find their level,
aud come dos Terms, and conform some what the
standard OF The United states, when The intercourse is
mere extended Nevertheless have doubt that they
will he higher there tban This side OF The continent
for some time 10 come would suggest, this being The
case whether III. amendment OF the senator from Mis- !
sour MIR BESTosl woHd not be salary high enough
Tor the present. II THESE gentlemen 10 be your
ms,Ioners 10 treat with Tue Indians, and Their exper
ence anu their I,aucy shall command higher salary,
we award IT 10 them a. proper lime doubt
whether any commissioner will be appointed until full |
information has been received Ii the President thinks
proper 10 appoint them as 10 the expenditure aud
the cost Of subsistence, The government bears that
now without any regulation OF law; but ! do not
know that IL is liked at any rdle oi 20 per mile
for .travel think tia, the usual allowance is less than
that amount II is dIscr tIonary allowance hy III.
department, understand. Whatever the expenses may
be, even admitting them 10 exceed that, the agents in
their travel must be paid their expen suppose
their expenses going there pal by the present
regulation. II nigh, Dc we'll II you ieuce the salaf,
below $1,000 10 stpulate that their expenses in going
there shall be paid by the government
Mr. GWIN In the first place, think there ought 10 he
indian agents. aui they Guy be located in the
try, lha their travel may be a. little possible am
opposed TO pas ing for travel because the mile
al. Il .. II.