New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1850-04-13

children ah.c h each woual may have hal -A-
.,r-rr nav h9n4rsbe friend. wss 10 '-te1 a. 'a IS
k-r,r ~ the Instance " cl1inern e. .-'--t-'
,.,h view - ascertain car-s.a a. = "''-0' ~
not IL hk Necessary 20 ~ iato here. -'p~ 80
- L. A. Won wi1r . take e tlfs ln'1-l - i-
= e. . vis,s 2, ssc. ran tie avs ri 11Ee'ty De-
.,-c.r. 81. Two rsces-the degrees o. blood. ana
lti.., nt,sical awe Of the races. Ard the iao. =
lsv. been Constructed Il reference = age ~ "'
..... ~ the b God % tie number O. children ana
.rertab'es d-v-.0, ~ the subject oi cN-nPa a'''
ilngevitv. -L. ~,
NJ BsRrts1-I tLak that ali the -einar" o.
oh. S.rst-r f-cra Kentucky - O. snoF th- -'pfie
800 49, ion hat = a. s1-Festel son me
an % a. l.. our every thing bot tie mere eh-'ie
ration ~ he Inhabitants
", S,vAnn-l nope the notion - strlse 'D'
vii n0; prevail. il appears ~ me- ths' 'ne 2.
formation sol-bt a. b. lb'ai ri ~ ih'' '.a-' -
.ss4,t,sI ltis Interesting % Is ALL a. le si.oL
0f,,ll.-.cal sc.4ac. u know tn aet1A- oonl'il3l
every cass ot pOpg stion 20 uis c'l."y ga
tsi,iv Il concerns the public, a. " Ell ~ 90,
,-,'.,. - knoT IT, aetna. r-.s'fle c1nHlii.-' 3"
lie Inherent asses ri population me
l.s,re % procure Information N re5a ~ =, -.7 %
-,,ativs .or.evi'v Of the wti'e ana D.alH o. D.
their yario.s Conditions Inc! o,sI - ..s
rain ,io number Of children tha' ea-n '.'''1-
49,, ,l. number that ar living, and ne n1mo,r
- desd Nth reference 90 tire question ID.
R5, there is another point. There is no woman
,,.,b a,-eat Difference b. the Senator from Alabama
who can have forgotten the number Of cn 'del mat
cine has borne Fit be true Il s SAID. that there
are women who do not know whether tier c1.i
rem b. living or dead, and even how many ~
have borne I .lguld lte 20 0scerfa'n ne uH111er
u such nat Hcrc ar If an races. Ana drsfe
this Information because we have All cherished
hone that the condition Of African serytpde 30 tins
co1Dtr, vas a stage o. transition from state %
fftrr.r nTrt4rrr u nH "f
wish o. know how rapid that progress Is. be-
Ieye II cannot BE- possible that there are any wo-
men. even in Africa, who have forgotten the nun
Der OF children they have borne II there be any ln
America who have forgotten thatiact So important
and interestipy 10 themselves wish % know d.
for the purpose of sscertaimng the operation OF our
social system. and the success OF that system as
leading 10 The improvement Of the African race.
wish 10 know also what - the extent of the edlca
ton or of instruction that prevails, 50 as 70 ascer
tain whether they are advancing towards that bet
ter condition which constitutes the only excuse, as
understand. that we have for holding them ln ser
viiude
NJ. KINC-I am not at all surprised % hear the
Senator from New York attempt 10 throw ar impu
tation upon the South 10 answer his own purposes
Sir. what stated wss that 10 many instances
you could not even get from the mother any correct
know edge Of the number OF children she had Go
INTO the white settlements IN many portions OF the
country and YOU Will find women IN the same sitna'
ton Does the Senator mean 10 say that all the
women of bis own State are highly intellectual,
SO bright in their perceptions. so acute m their
UNDERTAKINGS that they could give similar inDr
nation If 1t were required OF them
sir / have listened 10 the Senator's remarks.
He comes forward here on all occasions, when the
sghtes, opportunity is afforded % hrn, 20 cndeayOr
to produce a feeling of prejudice against that sec
ton of country in which live, IN order 70 minister
10 that miserable ianatca spirit
The Vicf president honorable Senator
IS out of order
Mr. Kfxc-Wel. sir, let the Senator not attempt
bv sneering manner and msidious language. u
produce an effect which he dare not do directly
/ would ike T. be informed. whether all within the
State OF New \ ork so intelligent, 81 well IN
formed. and have lived m such way as 10 Justify
the belief that upon application to them to know
the number Of their children, the information could
be obtained Go INTO New York city, or INTO any
portion of the State, and you wAl ind persons OF
that description
Mr. Savannah reply to the question which the
honorable Senator asks me nregard t. the women
Of New y ork, ! have 10 say that they are able TO
read the question, and that they will read H. and
he will not find one, white or black, in the State
Of New York that has forgotten the number oi her
children. That IS my judgment. For the rest !
repeat that think the information IA important for
social. political aud benevolent purposes and am
sincere m desiring that 1t may b. obtained
Nj RUsK-Sir the Information sought 20 be Ob
tanned is Of no earthly When Il IS obIalned,
It amounts to nothing. 1t may be used for the pur-
poses OF agitation It may be used N stumPora
tory % awaken prejUdices in one section Of the
c,untry against the other, but It is Of no practical
value Indeed you can obtain no correct miorma
ton on the subject 1t IS Of piece with the pro
ceedng yesterday, when a petition numerousy
signed was presented asking Congress "a enrol the
slaves IN the militia OF the country. Now, is not
this irritating What IS It supposed will be the
consequence Of enrolling them IA the militia, and
putting arms into their hands, and that too when
prayer IS put up 10y men IN authority here that civil
war ser,lle war shall come rather than that Slav-
cry shall be extended into any other Territory
| will put one question 10 the gentleman lMr
Seward and # he will answer II, think he will
refute himself. Would he be willing 10 insert in
the census bl proposition that III New york
one OF these InquisitOrRl census takers should De
authorized 10 go into the houses and ask every wo
man how many children she had had aud ask other
questions which may very well be conlectured, but
which my regard for deccncy and other consldera-
tions induce me TO iorbear mentioning W ouid
he when he chooses 10 institute this InqulsltOn SO
lar as regards the black population, 40 to mother
and ask questions which would be regarded as IN
delicate If put 10 any white woman ask, Is he
willing g. have the census taker go round IN his
own state and ask every woman how many chill
dren she has had And, Sir gentleman who re
CARDS all c1ors alike ought not to make the distInc
ton Why he IS perfectly indifferent TO color
He has ash high appreciation OF black woman as
he has a white he canIotobect. then, 10 put upon
the same ievel white and black, 50 Tar as this IN
curry IS concerned.
Mr.. SEwARD-As the Senator puts question 10
me will answer H. have not the least o5jec
ton IN the world 10 have every woman in America
asked how many children she has borne.
Mr.. USDKRwooD-Ths Is not my scheme 1t
was the plan Of Southern gentleman; who be
ueved that certain class Ot oolored p .ope had
fewer children than a certain other class and he
believed that the average duration OF the lives OF
the children OF the darker class was longer than
thar OF the children OF the lighter coored class or
the mixed And II was iog the purpose OF ascer-
tanning the ply siologioAl fact that he wanted the
inquiry made.
Mr. RUsK-If YOU would collect inform alton upon
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