The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-03-17

In ITSELF the amendment ledvesl Wn0ut any pfoVioiont
| by which il can be carried into effect,
In the next place, who to superniend this printing
my friend from Arkansas does not love sncn
occupation. considering the amount he has 70 40 ana
how much animadyersion thrown upon him IN certain
quarters But does he suppose that committee OF inc
Senate committee of the House. or the TWO commit
together are 70 take charge and supervise his PRINT
ing TO that is done according 10 the rule oil the
joint resolution supposng that rule 10 be applied 70 ihe
casei submit to him that there are insurmounsable al
fcues in the execution Of the plan as proposed BY hls
amendment First, il provides person TO do the work
second no rate Of compensation third no rule by winch
the printer Is TO be chosen or the printing the and
a execution q hs work = e Ss a. sbs
shall be done would very respectfully suggest, there
fore, that as my friend Is not very socitous for the
adoption, of his n amendment he should withdraw j.
! MIR. SHIELDS made q suggestion IN relation 70 the
matter which not distinctly heard by the reporter
Il was understood to be suggestion that the amendment
= s senator w
naton Of the amendment that have stricken out all in
relation M sS e 5hs pss slp pfnS ~
read he thought would require some express words OF
reservation. else il might be obscure.
| Mr.. BORLAND II the senator will hear me read the
amendment modified think he will not be dis
satisfied propose to amend il BY adding the following
provlso
.That all the classifcations, arrangements. compen-
the returns Of the census provided for ia this act pre-.
pared by under the direction and supervision OF the Sec
two houses OF Congress under the rules and the
same upon which other printing for Congress s now
ssess now ii loee Of Which may be in force the time
when said printing shall have TO be done"
The senator objected that there person provided
by the, Senate under whose direction and supervision
this work should be done. With due difference and re-.
spect to the senator's Discrimination must be permitted
TO say that the amendment does provide f9r supervisor
understand the meaning OF these words y IS hat
the individual to whom this duty is assigned Of super
visng. shall have charge Of it so far as the manner
Mr. RADfyER lin hiS saatl Who print nj
| Mr.. BORLAND | will come to that Now, the
amendment proposes that the pablic printer-not the
cord public printer, but the printer OF the two houses OF
Nj BADGER, lin his seat) Which onea There are
Mr. BoRLAND. Itmakes very little difference whether
there adozen it is to be done BY the printers
They are Individuals and far the execution OF the
work concerned, subdivision OF labor among num-
ber of competent hands will secure expedition.
Mr.. BADGER, lin his seat) Who is TO subdlyide III
Mr.. BORLAND It does not follow that because no
person is provided and specified to do the work, 7,
cannot be done. The amendment expressly says II shall
be done by the printers oil the TWO houses OF Congress
not those who The printers, but al the time that
the work is required to be done 80 that there Is no ms
take about There is abguity IN the expression at
all. There is want oil explicness. IL expressly pro-
ydes that they shall do the work. Now, how shall they
do the work They shall do under the same rules and
on the same terms upon which other eTprnting Tor Con-
gress is now or may then he done. We can modify our
system OF public printing II shall be deemed proper TO
change previous 70 the execution Of this work NOW,
what do rules and The rule applies TO the
arrangements and the terms apply TO the rates oil payment
Now certainly is obvious 10 every one mat rules and
terms upon which work is TO be done must include the
prices 10 be paid Well prices paid for printers work
specified in the aggregate but certain rate IS
established which constitutes rule OF computation, by
which the character and quality OF the work Is ascer-
Mr BADGER, Unterposng) We have one rate for
printing bills, another for printing documents, and an.
other for printing reports Which Of these rates to
Mr.. BoRLAND Ii is to be done under the same rules
and upon the terms, according 10 the character OF
Mr.. BADGER We have none OF that character.
MIR. BORLAND Yes, sir. we have some OF the same
character. Upon that point. will read portion OF the
such printing this il not in the precise words certain
ly is The only meaning that can be attached to it
(Mr b., here read the provisions OF the joint resolu.
ton providing for the printing oil Congressl
Now, sir Il you win take up under the rules and on
the OF the present arrangement and adopt II, with
the contract for doing this and the estimate including the
quantity and quality OF the work, and the prices TO be
paid for it. you have rules and terms under which there
will be no mistake.
Mr.. SMITH, tinerposing) ask the senator whether,
IL this work Is imposed on ihe congressional prnles
Mr.. BORLAND. The question Of the senator has no
application to the business before the Senate now do
not conceive that TO 90 into and ascertain this TACT
for the purpose OF settling question OF this sort That
is another question entirely, as TO how much money
10 be made BY the contractors, or whether they w do u
Mr. BADGER, (nterposng) II the printers are likely
sustain loss by this printing, they will refuse to do ~
and the amendment contains no provision Tor case oi
this kind
Mr.. BoRLAND. suppose il does contain provision
that fully meets that purpose, as follows;
"The same under which the printing is now done
or may BE- DONE" xc.
Now does not that make provision for the change
Mr.. BADGER suppose the present joint resolution
continues in regard congressional printing. But sup
pose these gentlemen say will not do the census print
ing upon these terms: what are you going TO do then
They are not bound 10 do IL and your amendment con
tains no provision providing for the contingency
Mr.. B0RLAND, (resumng) i must confess am moi
able To meet case OF that sor; nor do suppose thai
every case the senator may suppose can be met They
may with much proprey take the work and throw II
into the FIRE after they have executed It, One Is just az
easy on their part The other do not see, them wha
application such questions can possibly have.
4 think sir have answered the objections raised BY
| the honorable senator from North Carolina He made
three points In the first place, be said there was nobody
provided supervise the work pointed out the Secre
tay of the Senate the person provided In the mex
place he said there TO do the work pointed
out the individuals who hereafter by the terms o
their contract with Congress- TO do IT, In the third place
and quantity Of work to be done aAd the price TO be paid
for ii: think the amendment does clearly provide oi
that taken in connexion with the contract which now lies
before and which does prescribe the terms TO wits sc
much per page for work OF certain character and going
on TO describe every kind OF work 10 be done The print
ers have their rule, by which they measure their work
and ascertain its extent They have certain rules OF com
gure work Then, when the work is done and brought be-
lore the individual whose business is 10 estimate and
for H. they apply those rules To II with as much Certainty
as surveyor oil public lande applies his measurement to
ascertain any given OF country There is ques-
lion about itno only about these rules, but the terms