The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-08-15
TUESDAY. AUGUST 10, 1850.
fter the reading Of the journal,

reciing the Committee on Commerce to inquire into the
Proprey OF fixing by law the salary OF the collector Of
me port OF Middleown, IN the State OF Connecticut
On motion Of Mr. BOYD. the Committee on Territories
were discharged from the further consideration OF the
bill Tor the benefit OF the Territory OF Minnesota and il
On motion Of Mr., RICHARDSON, the Committee Of
the Whole House discharged from the further
sderation OF the bill or the relief Of John Mitchell
The question being on ordering this bill to be read
There arose conversational debate between Messrs.
THOMPSON Of mississippi, McLANE Of Maryland.
and ASH NUN when M
Mr. P. KING moved 10 strike out ls47," (from the
body OF the bll.) and insert " 1850"
Mr. ASHMUN moved the previous question, which
being seconded the amendment was agreed o and then
the bill amended read the third time and passed
Mr. ASHMUN called for the regular order of business
MIR BAYLY moved the suspension OF the rules to go
into COMMITTEES Of the Whole on the state OF the
Mr. JACKSON, Of Georgia asked the unanimous con.
sent Of the House for leave to present the resolutions Of
But objection being made, leave was not granted.
The question recurring on the motion TO suspend the
rules TO into Committee OF the Whole the state oil
Mr.. ROBINSON demanded the yeas and nays; which
being ordered u was not agreed to-yeas 49, nays 80
[Mr: Green declined voting on this question, hav-
ing paired OFT with Mr. PUTNAM
Reports being in order from the select committees,
Mr. JONES, from the Committee on Rules reported
amendment to the Saith rule Ito in at the end
thereby in the following words, viz:
After which, any member who shall first obtain the floor
shall be allowed to speak Ave minutes in opposition it,
but the privilege Of debate shall be allowed favor
Of and against any amendment hat be offered the
the amendment shall be Withdrawn by
thereof unless by the unanimous of the committee
Mr.. JONES said that under the existing fve.minutes
rule business like and effective debates had certainly
Cured. But equally well known that this rule
had been abused II had been used for the purpose of
improperly protracting debates. All would, therefore,
understand the importance OF enactng the change pro-
posed by the Committee on Rules He had been instruct
ed BY the committee to the previous question the
Mr, THOMPSON. Of Mississippi, begged Mr. to
withdraw that call, especially he had himself
addressed the House in its favor; but
Mr.. JONES declining,
Mr.. THOMPSON, Of Mississippi. moved to lay the
resolution on the table,
and nays were ordered; and it not agreed toyeas
so, nays l36
Mr.. BAYLY moved to suspend the rules.
and nays that motion; which having been ordered, it
was not agreed to-yeas 90, nays lit.
Mr.. DANIEL moved call of the House, on which
question he demanded the yeas and nays; which were
ordered, (thrty- members rising to sustain the CALI
and then the motion for call OF the House lost
| M Mr.. McTANE desired to know whether Mr.. Josrs
would withdraw the call for the previous question on the
adoption Of the rule
MIR JONES had no feeling on the subject; he was but
acting under instructions from the committee. He, how.
ever, Withdrew il for moment to accommodate Mr.. Nc
Mr. McLANE, on hearing the proposition read the
first time, conceived it be virtual repeal OF the i've
minutes rule but found that i did not interfere
with the right OF members TO debate the bills, &c before
committees Of the whole It was not objectionable as
gag he had supposed In fact it accomplished Just
nothing Al all Ii would not prevent members from dis.
cussibg the state OF the Union generally, five minutes
fact.
Here followed conversation between the SPEAKER
\ and many members upon points OF order.1
After which, MIR. Mel, resumng the floor, held that
this proposition would increase rather than diminish the
range OF debate in 6ve- minutes speeches.
! The morning hour having expired,
Mr. iNGE moved 70 proceed to business on the Speak
er's table not agreed to. -
Mr. BAYLY moved TO 90 into Committee of the
Whole on the state OF the Union.
On which motion the yeas and nays being ordered, II
was no, agreed io-yeas 75, nays loa
Mr. McLANE, again taking the floor, urged that the
proposed change failed in any 10 limit the dura
ton OF debate, which was probably the purpose OF the
1--WE" minutes rule its onIy virtues Surely this amend
ment failed 10 stop debate. MIR. Mel further continued
his remarks TO show that nothing 10 be gained and
that great embarrassment and injury to the public service
would be the result OF its adopuon-how, he explained.
would prevent The proper discussion 81 lmPortan!
force members TO make single ve-mnuies speech less
Mr. Mel. then moved TO refer the proposition back 10
the Committee on Rules, with instructions
Here Mr.. lNGE asked Mr. McLAsE to yield to him
Mr. ASHMUN addressed the Chair
| But the Chair recognising Mr.. IsGE,
| Mr. DUER rose 10 point OF order, and went on to
observe that Mr. AsHMus entitled to the floor, bay
ing addressed the Char before Mr. soE was recognised
/ And after considerable excitement aud confusion,
Il MIR. McLANE went on TO state the instructions he
designed moving
Mr. INGE, being next recognised addressed the Chair
at length against the adoption OF the proposed fue
which be held to be effort still further strip the mi
noy OF their rights the floor He felt assured that
neither the Georgia member nor the member OF that com.
mee from Texas had been present when the Committee
Rules voted unanimously to report this proposition.
/ Mr. ASHMuN would neither argue the main point IN.
voved reply TO the lecture oil Mr. lSGE. He would,
however, say that when this rule recommended BY
the Committee Rules, there present three north
ern members and two from the South.
/ Mr. ASHMUN then demanded the previous question.
for a cali of the House being made, the yeas
and nays were demanded thereupon, and thryone mem
bers secondng this demand, they ordered and then,
alter general conversation aud confusion,
The question ordering call OF the House was put,
/ and il was not agreed io--yeas 3d. nays l25.
j Mr. BAYLY remarked that AZ this subject would
come up in the morning, when the House would be
| 10 better humor, he would move to go into Com.
mtee of the Whole the state of Union which beng
agreed to, Mr. BURT took the chair and the committee
taking up the civil and diplomatic appropriation bill,
MIR seldom took the floor, and spoke upon the char
positions OF the Presidents message relative TO
the boundary OF Texas, which, he held, involved assump.
tons OF power not warranted by the constitution He
also defended the title OF Texas TO the territory in dispute
\ at length.
Mr.. AsHMUN next obtained the floor when the CON-
mittee
Aud then, on motion, the House adjourned.
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