The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-09-26
tn. question being taken upon this amendment II was


out from line ITS to line 1883 inclusive, being the fol-
lowing words;
TT enable The sss,s the Interior take Per.
New York, free Of Or other charges Of any SOFT 80
many rooms In the city hail. in said city about 10 be errc
ihs United States district and circuit courts holden in .sid
city, and their officers twelve thousand dolasi fosdsd
hs IS essa by S', he ".ess Of
the said rooms provided and the said lease made
Mr. u said; Allow me TO say word or two 10
ths senate upon Ibis subject Il was only the other
day that we refused to make appropriations Tor the erec
ton of courhouses Il is q very important subject
think when we do upon il, that il should be well
sidered, and general system adopted equally applicable
to ali the States OF the Union In my State fur
nsh the OF Tho United States with proper
without any compensation II is done elsewhere too,
believe This is subject Of too much magnitude to be
acted upon plecemeal 10 this manner hope, therefore.
under the expression OF views which the Senate has al
ready made that shall not commence system in this
pecemeal way BY retaining this provision in the BILL but
that we shall strike i out and l.. New York and all
other States rest upon the same basis until agree upon
some general system II is the clause from lines ITS to
Mr. DICKINSON That clause came into the bill from
the House Of Representatives understand placed
there after debate. and believe upon the yeas and nays
do not desire 70 ask for New York any other rule than
applied to other States where the amount OF BUSH
ness l. transacted This appropriation Is for permanent
lease Of rooms in the city OF Utica That s one OF the
most important and thriving towns Of New York II is
well known that in that great commercial State, with her
extensive frontier, and her long line OF custom houses
stretched along her entire frontier there must be great
II q
very important point and the amendment having been in
serted BY the House. hope ]! will be retained ask
10 Ssw an
being built up, it Is usual TO retain the necessary
for the accommodation Of the courts; and no
reason why, at SO important point where such an ex
tensve business is transacted. arrangement Of this
kind should not be made. hope the amendment will be
Mr. EWING. The city Of Utica is about erecting a
city hall, which will accommodate the courts OF the
United States with rooms. for which the United States
can obtain perpetual lease, the appropriation Of this
amendment being made suppose to be the cheapest
possible manner in which the United States be ac
commodated with sufficient for their purposes i
the officers connected with the courts and for the preser
walton Of the records which are necessary for the benefit
O ne Unlsd states An appropriation made now o. TINS
datons than can be procured for much larger sum if
this opportunity is suffered 10 pass hope therefore,
Mr. BABGER Mr. PRESIDENT e .s am very cry reluctantly
compelled to vote for the motion TO strike out this APP
preparation understood the Senate to decide the other
day, upon the application made by the honorable senator
building courthouse al Montgomery. in that State.
that they would not undertake to build the court.
houses for the accommodation Of the Of the United
Statesnot now, at all events Now, strikes that this
arrangement for perpetual lease is merely another. and
TO my mind much more Objectionable form OF making
purchase. would great deal rather. If we were to
sdogt the policy q, an. that the United States shall
build her rt-houses that should be done direct
~. in the name of purchase than that she should enter
into m like this for perpetual lease Of por
ton OF b1ildng erected BY the State city authorities
Permit me TO add, that the fact that Utica rch and
hounshing. and rapidly town. appears TO me
to be additional reason why the United States should
not os required TO pay Tor those accommodations given
reason why we should make this dscrimination-why
wsshoud refuse to Montgomery, and give Si2 900
Mr. DICKINSON. I wish 10 add to what have said,
that the clerks Office for the northern district OF New
York 10 kept in the city Of Utica apprehend that is
hardly the anywhere that accommodations are FUR
nshed free Of charge for the permanent Offices Of tie
United States travelling court here and there may be
:: hn may os sowea to nSe rs
IN immense amount OF business Is trasac,ed see
nothing in the argument Of the senator from North
Carolina MIR BADcERl against perpetual lease, and no
reason why it is its nature just servceable
purchase OF the property. ! believe there will be an
actual saving of considerable to the United States
BY this mode, the payment OF rent, besides the adj
donaI safety OF the public records he and from
robbery, which is matter OF very great Importance 1t
isbuta short time since case occurred in the city OF
New York, IN which very important papers connected |
with the criminal jurisdiction stolen and carried
away-papers having an important influence upon the
public interests and the administration OF justice.
peat that whenever houses built by the United
Sates these houses and offices provided for
matter OF economy see no reason why the appropria
ton should not stand, and hope the amendment will
Mr.. SEWARD. wish to say = few words upon this |
smsndmen,, because. perhaps, shall be expected TO do
%. The law requires that the clerks office for the
northern district OF New York shall be kept at the city OF
Utica. 1t 10 kept store, because it is econom
70 Keep out certainly safe dep0sl-
tory for the public documents such ought be pro-
vided. The simple question here is, whether there s
anything TO- be gained by substituting perpetual lease
the place Of temporary lease II seems 10 me- sir that
there IL gain both in econDmy and in security and that
these considerations are sufficient to justify the provision
in the bill.
AR. BRIGHT. Mr.. President il the provision of the |
Dill which - proposed TO strike out is in different Ian
guage 10 precisely the in principle as the one
which was voted down by the Senate the other day BY
decided majority. This clause provides that shall
appropriate Sl2 900 Tor the purchase OF perpetual lease
Of rooms for the court and officers OF court The amend
ment we were offered before proposed that should APP
pfopraie 900 for building court houses-exacily the
same thing. Now appreciate the objection that is |
urged that is safe TO have keeping Of the pub
lie documents and records in private hands know that
they in great danger wish the evil to be remeded
but gentlemen suppose that be remeded at any less
outlay than building court houses and Offices al every
capital IN the United States, every point where
court 10 held, they certainly mistaken do not wish
70 zee the principle adopted applicable to the State OF
New York alone III should embrace every State in the
Union. III the great State OF New York requires to be
aided out OF the national treasury aordng these facil
ties TO the United States courts, how appli
caby can the new and consequently hepoo States Of
the West claim the same assistance. opposed the
proposition that voted down Saturday last, and
equally opposed TO this am opposed TO any partial
system. present strong from my State
a. be presented from any State in the Union why
simar appropriation should be made for the building Of
court house there. II the people OF New York are
ceivinE rent from the government for the which
they occupy for Offices they doing better already than
the people OF my State for il Is TO my personal know
edge that no rent AT all is paid in Illinois The depart
men,s refused pay the rent on the ground that they had