The republic. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1849-1853, 1850-08-14

MT bAt LII moved lDdt the HOUSE resOlNe llbeIl
into Committee Of the Whole on the state OF the
Union; and the question being taken, II was de-
clded IN the negative yeas 10, nays lO3.
MIR. MclANE concluded his remarks, and moved
that the report be referred back to the Committee
on the Rules, "wth instructions 10 report to the
House the mode and manner OF enjoying the hive
minutes rule according TO strict parliamentary
law"
MIR. INGE concurred in the views expressed by
the gentleman from Maryland, (Mr. McLASE.)
lhe object Is to gag the minority, and compel
them TO submit to injurious, UNJUST and nasty le-
glsatlon; and il was a matter OF surprise TO him
that the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr JoNEs)
shout d make himself instrumentali in bringing for
ward the proposition. He did not question the
right OF that gentleman &c do 80, but the gentleman
would md lew members OF the South who have an
identity OF interest with himself. The gentleman
from Georgia, (Mr. STEPHEEs,) and the gentleman
from Texas, (Mr. kAuFMAN,) members OF the Com
mittee on Rules, were absent; and he ventured to
express the opinion that neither of them would
have assented TO the propositions they would have
revolted at it, The proposition is Offensive because
IL accompanies nothing, and its object Is insulting
IN Its character. No member can hesitate to pro-
nounce 1t as absurd without referring to the sec
lonal questions which influence our Judgment
One branch is, that member shall withdraw an
amendment.
Suppose member introduce an amendment,
and hs object Is attained in some other way: even
In that event he ID restrained from Withdrawing
the amendment, and it will have to go through the
process OF being voted on unnecessarily. Ii would
be absurd on account of this rule Another branch
is, the member introducing a proposition May
speak In favor of it, and another in opposition.
How can you determine whether gentleman who
rises to speak Ia going to oppose il or noR We
md that gentlemen speak for half an hour without
letting us know what they are IN favor OF; and
how are they to come to the point in five minutes?
There is this objection, which he submitted to
northern gentlemen: itresricts debate to two mem
bers: What right has this House to delegate the
privilege OF speaking to two members, to the ex-
nj txI., h,,n1 IN,
wolves most odious distinction and discrimination
The Chairman, too, is to designate the members
who are to speak for five minutes Some northern
men are cautious and prudent, and that common
discretion should prompt them not to press this on
| US. One objection is re-ennent The Constitution
expresses our rights, but provides for practical
protection, but by a onjunction of this with the
| rules the minority can maintain themselves. If
| we allow Ibis amendment to be made, other amend
ments VIII come IN, and we will find ourselves
without the power of rcsstancc-the whole platform
OF protection will be swept from under He was
opposed to the one hour rule, the five minute rule
and every other restriction. He held that members
have the same right to speak to answer to their
names aye or no. The answer involves the right
to speak Especially to this the minority should
cling as long they able to struggle. We are
| assaled by aruthless, aggressive majority, who
are determined to carry out what they have at
heart, and which we oppose; we cannot for day
stay their dominion. The only privilege the mi
nority haven TO raise its voice against outrages
which they have not power TO defeat.
| Mr.. ASHMUN said that he did not rise to dis
cuss the merits of the proposition, it 80
| plain and simple that the common sense of the
| House could not fail perfectly to understand it.
He supposed that the why the previous ques-
| ton was Withdrawn this morning to enable the
gentleman from Mary land and the gentleman from
Alabama to make able and very lucid arguments.
| The House had listened to them, and enjoyed all
| the light which these distinguished gentlemen
were able to shed in opposition to the amendment.
| He would barely remark, in relation to the com
mcnts which the gentleman from Alabama made
on the committee, and the lecture which he read to
the gentleman from Tennessee, (Mr. JoSEs,) as
being the instrument-that Is to say, the tool-in
the hands of the committee for reporting measure
designated as an outrage on southern rights, that
the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. JoNEs) being
a southern man. may take the lecture to himself,
| and receive 1t as he pleases, and reply to it;
it did not belong to him, (NIr AsHmvN.) But he
might for the information OF the House, state that
when the report was agreed to in committee, there
were present three northern and two southern gen
tlcmen, and they were unanimous The latter, he
repeated, concurred fully the report and there
fore, if there has been any outrage attempted on
southern rights, pretended by the gentleman
from ALBANIA, these two gentlemen were agents in
the transaction After this plain statement, and
with view 10 close the debate, he would move the
previous question.
MIR. HOLMES asked for the yeas and nays.
MIR. JOHNSON, of Arkansas, moved that there be
call of the House.
The SPEAKER, in reply to question, said that
as motion had been made to recommit the report
presented this morning if the House should pass to
the consideration of other matters, this would be
morning hour business, and the fret in order when
committees arc again called.
The question was taken, and call Of the House
refused-yeas 49, nays lbs.
Mr.. BAYLY said: This subject will come up to-
morrow, when the House will be in better humor;
therefore move that the House resolve itself into
Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union.
The motion was agreed to, and the committee
took up the civil and diplomatic appropriation bill.
THE PRESIDENTS RECENT MESSAGE,
Mr.. SEDDON, Of Virginia. occupied an hour in
the consideration Of the message OF the President
with regard to the boundary of Texas and New
Mexico, and in condemnation Of the position as
sumed by the Executive, which nc regarded ut
tcrly subversive of the fundamental principles Of
our Government, and as tending TO change the re-
publican form into one Of consolidation
Mr.. ASHMUN obtained the floor when the com
mittcc rose, and the House adjourned.