New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1850-11-27

oner. That 10 my opinion. 1 have my suspicious
that the Pope is nothing better than captive IN
the hands OF diplomatists and despots, VINO mae
sport of the interests Of the Pope, as they 40
with those Of all true believers who nantes. their
attachment to civil and religious liberty.
This, our readers vii adlnlt is very frank
and spirited expression OF opinion by clerical
/ deputy There are few debates whore the cry OF
the Church in danger Is raised, that the same
| arguments would not be applicable. Nor IS NJ
/ Turccth By any means solitary example OF Gle
rical approval of the Sccardi law. Petitions IN
lis favor were extensively signed by the clergy,
sometimes to the number Of thirty, forty, fifty or
more from q single district. One petition from
Genoa had more than ninety clerical signatures.
w { mention these facts to show that though the
hierarchy be generally hostile to the reform, II IS
not 50 among the inferior clergy.
With the exception OF such clerical dignItarIes
as had seats in either chamber, the principal OPP
position was carried on by Count Balbo, and other
ex ministers OF the various administrations which
preceded the present They and all admitted
the necessity Of the reform and their objections
solely concerned what they deemed the iupOlicy
Of proceeding " th the bill before the Pope's con-
sent had been obtained. The uniform reply Of
ministers to THIS was, that everything that could
be done in the way OF cancellation had been tried
and failed. That this was the fact viii more
clearly appear from reorganization OF the yarioGs
negotiations with Rome which we copy from an
official source
In the month of November, ls47, Count Ayet
sent a note to Rome on the abolition Of ecciesas.
teal privileges, which were to disappear Ike
lI"i - ~ - 49, dils Ill,
se',Ne IT, ip ft,td
80 -; ~ E,,, III C.-d;IoI An.o,olli
at its head, to examine the question; NJ. Pareto,
then Minister Plenp0tentiary, had several con
ferenccs with the commission, and requested his
Government To SEND proect oi inc I"" uI n
up III articles. ms was compIed Win the 9Pc
and the commission examined the project anu az
length Cardinal Antonelll sent couhter-project
in the name OF the Pope, solemhIy declaring thaI
the Holy i atber would never consent 10 more
ample concessions. This counierproJect contain
ed such impossible clauses, that the PIedmontese
Government considered it in the light OF cOntrl-
,oncaz m pain time until NJ Pareto positively lie.
cIorod that the document in question contained
fLn real views of the HOLY See Since negotia-
tirn yyonH have been impossible II the Papal
- - "A not m ,Ieviata from it's nrniect the
AZ, Ros11iIi sent to Rome to see whether
- ',os INV chance of coming to A better IN
Ireeot,ding NJ Rosmiui sent in no notes, bat
toni cyerv means of ascertaining the intention OF
he Tone and his councillors and seeing them
GvTo IN their discrimination of unfolding their
ioc+ r. he 1atter he recommended his Govern
~ 20 root nm that basis This the court of
'Tor;n refused and NJ. Rosmni resigned Baron
f,ar,Larito made n last effort md sent Count
. tbo Pane ca"rt 4ftSr severa inter-
Corli,lo Sntone and the other Car
IL lie la tnGN <
SrLa piadnontese Government recalled Siccard
Ia baT;ag evbonsted all the rules of courtesy
9 i 10 70 filo The ayan5rle of other Catho.
"; ;cas Who had abolished ecclesiastical priv
i it, is hefara that time.
n,e+ to. r sooco docs NOT hermit us to
Give anv norticniar account of these interesting
Debates which occupied six DAYS in the Chamber
az IDENTITIES and four DAYS in the Senate The
maiorities in favor of the bill were very large all
through That in favor OF the first part OF the bill
was 1870 to &c or five for the law to one against
it. The numbers voting on the section restricting
the number OF holidays were l0l to'42 AND the
division on the third section oil the law, iofold-
ding ecclesiastical Establishments ana uncertain
ces without the previous consent oil Government
had i2s votes III ltS razor ana 9hIy AGAINST. Inc
numbers IN tne 0enute on tie III 81 sGo..oH ol
genera Douy ol tie ID" lIl ; -
II Will oc see ny a. w IL d;
noriI[ in onnosion SUPPORTED the ministers and
that If the Pope chooses to excommunicate the au-
thors of the project whether King, ministry or
IDENTITIES. he viii have to encounter the resent.
mont and the obstinate resistance of the whole
Ld, ~ tho noonle We ndd bere tba tey t Of the
first part OF the law as subsequently proclaimed:
Nttorio Emanuel ii &c
The Senate and the Chamber OF Deputies have
adonted and we have ordained and ordered
ma follows:
ARTICLE. /. Civil causes between ecclesias-
tics and the laity OrbetWeen ecclesiastics alone,
Lou he raCarrcd to civil Jurisdictions whether the
nctio,s ar" Of nersonai nature or of real or
mived character of whatever kind.
U.,''' concarnit tbe RIGHT of
I'M citLer scveJ, or nassyeIv TO eccesias
tinn hncos ~ 70 The rr0nerty of them or to
INV Other ecclesiastical establishment whatever
sho he rsrorded rs other professions. and shall
he nlaced Under the civil Jurisdiction.
~ nr . Ecc1oo;oetics oro snbinct- as tbe other
ot;.n,. 70 oil tbe nenaI laws If the state In
.hese 1aIYs i ia contemnafed that causes
eLal he ad;ndicated in conformity with the forms
ssiabIished by the law Of procedure in the Law
tribnnals without distinction as regards crimes,
ogSnses and contraventions.
o"t nT Tbo rnnisbments enacted in the laws
If fI,e state SHAH not be applied unless through