The New York herald., 1850-05-03


The Court (oraIJ) inquired if he mean, it as tcs
| mony.
General Jesup said no; bul merely 80 q sugges-
| licn 90 Tie CONT
The Court making some further inquiry, General
Jee,u' said he had supposed that two thirds OF The
necessary means Of transportation were dep,nding
! VI ea the country in which the array was acting.
Ey Commodore Perry-lou are represented 10
| tie published report Of the Secretary OF War as
Speaking of an s. injudicpus movement" defeating
General Scotl's expectation. Please explain a.
In speaking of the movement, had relied upon
the report OF The Circumstance, at the time, of an
attack upon Alyarado toy the navy IN advance Of
General (lu,man's arranged approach
Ey Commodore Peny--please state the name of
the naval olhcer. iwho YOU supposed made the
injudcious move on Alysrado. Al do not de-
size 10 namethe oilicer had not done 80: had
merely referred TO naval movement.
| Commodore Pcrry--As this refers particularly 10
movement Of The navy which was under my
| command, The Court will excuse me for being
somcw hat particular. Q-State the particulars, so
| far as you have any knowledge, Of the movement
OF the navy to which you have referred. Al
| have no particulars, further than published re-
ports IN the newspapers, and am not certain that
| ever read these.
| Commodore Perry-Dd any injurious conse-
quences result to the United States in consequence
| OF the premature movement mentioned! Al be-
lcve, as Stated in my report 10 the secretary OF
| War. tina! the American army was greatly delayed,
and the expenses of government much increased,
by allowing Alvarado TO surrender without having
! secured resources within it's region. To obtain
these II was necessary TO use coercion; and still
| retain these opinions.
| Commodore Pcrry-ln your report referred to,
you not only speak ofdelay and expense, but of the
| same cause allowing Santa Anna to provision him
self, to take position and hold it during the sum-
| mcr. Explain Al know nothing bat what the
whole country knows-that Santa Anna, after the
battle of CenO GordO seized OriZaba and main
| tanned il during the summer, thereby commanding
the resources of The country, and enabling him 10
| close Scoti's communication with Vera Cruz. This
was and Is my opinion--a matter about which men
| General Jesup here remarked that there were
confidential Instructions given him by the President
| OF The United States at the time, requiring him TO
use every means to reduce the expenditures of the
government by forcing the enemy 10 supply the
| immediate necessities of the army. lie suggested
this as due to his own position as well rs that of
| others.
| The Court interposing, the subject was waived
| Commodore Perry-Nhat do you suppose to
have been the actual loss 10 the United States by
| the premature surrender of Alvarado A Il have
no means Of calculation; cannot ascertain the whole
ninount; might state amounts paid for animals,
which was from four TO six times higher than had
| anticipated.
| Commodore Perry think you have mentioned
the gross amount Of loss TO nc or others; If So
| pease state what you placed il ai
| Court, (mleposing )-Ihe question is simply
| whether you have any knowledge OF increase of
expense To the government, 10y the premature
render Of Alvarado?
! Commodore pery-l desire to know of ihe wit
| ness whether he has not stated some specific sum!
| A.-Nes: have stated probably million of dollars
as the difference in the result bu, have neyermade
| an estimate. Considered the military disadvan-
| iGges greater than the pecuDiary loss.
Commodore Perry. (oTally )-Ihat's all wanted
| 10 get at have no further questions
| Cour-Staie how the resources in the rear of
Aharado might have been secured by the proposed
| combined attack, and without the premature
| render. A.-To obtain supplies, il was necessary
| 10 coercc Tie people, and TO secure them from
lunsh hmcnt by their own government, and this was
best done by the officers IN command, and the oii-
| cf;I~ with whom tt(y treat He then narrated the
| course incident 10 cases of seizure surrender,
and remarked that these were not peculiar 10 the
| war with Mexico
CouIi--Was this the course in this particular
case! Add not apply 10 Alvarado, when ii sur
| rendered, in either case
Commodore Perry (orally)-Cant well under.
stand what ~ meant hy two surrcDdefs.
Court (orally)-Witness will explain what hc
| means.
General .Jcsur--Nc,er understood there were
| two surrenders Cf Alvarado.
Cour,-W ould would not the possession of
| Crizba, by santa Anna, have had influence in
| preventing supplies, even II there had been stpu-
lalons ioI them. consequent upon the surrender OF
| Akarado! Al have no doubt il would have ope-
rated against the delivery Of supplies, if even spu-
| lated for.
Commodore Perry remarked. incidentally, that
| although Santa ANA held Orizaba, we held all the
coast, upon the borders OF which the cattle were
| feeding.
I.cuienun; Ciizeon called and sworn.
Question ly the Court-Wcrc you employed in
The Gull Of Mexico, Ne! A.-Ycs ss first cutcn-
ant of the Saratoga, arrived off the Island of An
ton zardc. the Nth April, 1871. and afte rs ards
in command oi the schooner l,ccfcr.
Cour,-Are YOU acquainted with anything con-
neotcd with the surrender, Nc.! A-Nothnug.
Court-Uo ycu know anything connected with
itl A.-Noihing personally had heard much con-
yeTsation abou, the matter while in the ncgibor-
hood Nc.
Commodore Pcry-Did the conversation you
| Akarado and with whom were those convcrsa-
lions held Alt was relative TO The surrender of
Alvarado. and held with the acaldc and other
MEXICAN officials.
The Count objected to the question and, after
delberting upon il with closed doors, ruled it TO
be Dadmssiblc.
! FOURTH pAy.
Lieutenant Glisson recalled.
Commodore Perry proposed n question, (thc pur-
pon Of which could not hc asccriaincd, because il
was not rcad), to which the court took exceptions,
and went into secret session 10 deliberate upon il,
and afterwards ruled II out
Commodore Pcry-Will the Court nay how
may get The statements Of others through the Wit.
ness
| Court--We can only receive facts. The witness
may give his own impressions bat he cannot be
supposed to know the opinions of others, nor can
! he give them.
Commodore Pcry--will tile Court pu, upoa the
records my desire in the premises
Couri-lcu can write down what you please,
sir and let ms sec IL.
Commodore Pery-My only object is to obtain
truthful historical narrative Of the capture Of Al
varado and, il the Court has doubts a. to the
course roPose, must submit. have nothing
further to ask. my question j. inadlnis-blc.
| Commodore III. Adams sworn.
Cour,-Wcrc you employed in the Gulf Of Mex-
CO. &c. 7 Al was and "a executive officer Of
the Mississippi.
Court-Are you acquainted with any circum-
stances connected with the surrender Of Alvarado,
Ac.l Al know nothing relative to the Scourgc
A day or two after the surrender OF Vera Cruz
Commodore Perry informed me that he was goino
down To attack Aivarado, in conjunction with Cc-
neral Quitmsn ordered me TO have everything in
readiness for battle and Tor landing; on the :,lst
Of March, the squadron moved from Sacriiicos
down to Anton Lizardo, on the way TO Alvarado
the same morning sent boats TO ferry Quitman'
forces over Madeiin river, on their march to Alva
rado The next morning, Uhe LIT Of April.) the
Mississippi, with the other vessels, got under
weigh; the Mississippi took the small vessels in
tow, and proceeded towards Alvarado Commodore
Perry directed me to watch for signals from the
troops on shore, and said he had advised General