The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-01-23

The VICE PRESlDENT restated the quesuon, IN &C
cordance with the above remark
Mr.. BUTLER. II these memorials proposed nothing
more than to organize territorial governments, should
have no objection e their gong s . Is COMMITTEES on
suppose ! shall have the same labor 70 SO through.
whether they referred the one way or the other But
the bill inSdaeed BY the honorable senator from Mlsss;
The States OF this Onion, involving very delicate
situional question and will ask OF the senator
from Illinois Mr. DoueLAsl IL questions involving the
construction Of treaties do not go 10 the Judiciary Com
mttee what desire to know does properly go to that
committed II has been the usage OF the Senaeand it
i very convenient pacce-for the chairman OF each
committee to maintain the jurisdiction of his own com
mittee. Now, sir, ] have no feeling way or the
other As the memorial proposes that they shall be adj
mtted as State, 10 the relation OF terrific
rial government, it may go TO either the the other
But sir this matter was discussed at the last session
very deliberately, belieye-indeed, with more feeling,
EMMY decided that the bill in reference to California
should go to the Judiciary Committee. great many
were extremely anxious 10 adopt California into the
Union before il had any existence one way or the other
The question referred to the Judiciary Committee
after full discussion think that that efectually de-
cded the views entertained by the gentleman upon that
saw, again, if these bills are to be taken from the Ju.
dietary Committee, then the other bill mean the bill
for the organization Of State, introduced by the gentle
maa from Missouri, Mr. BENToN proposing 70 divide
Texas and limit her boundares--whch has been already
referred, should be also taken from that committee and
referred to the Committee on Territories, -,
Mr. KING wish to ask whether this is bill that
has been reported or whether was that presented by
the senator from Mississippi. IMr. FoorEl
Mr.. DOUGLAS replied thatit was memorial from the
inhabitants OF that part OF the country known Deseet,
enclosing their provisional constitution, and asking the
alternative either 10 be admitted into the Union as
State, OF under territorial government, as Congress
Mr. KING Mr. President, il seems 10 me that there is
agea proprey in referring to the Committee on Terri
rtoriss / Thai committee j. Of any use at all it is
ceve territorial government When State s concern
ed then i is all important, conceive, TO change the
s The oey matter Of S siHc the wsy
now, 10, that the bill introduced by the honorable
ator from Mississippi Mr. FooTEl contains not only
aso or ~ @ Of
more, including Dessert II that could be settled and the
whole matter regarding Territories could go to the terri
trouble would be at an end. | do not think it very
other; and think il would be better that it should be
given to that committee which has now nothing to
do rather than that all should be taken from and sent
to the Judiciary Committee take it for granted that
any question Of constitutional law could be decided equal
ly as well by committee by the other-with all
Difference to the Judiciary under that i'm
preston, shall for referring this TO the territorial
committee, with the understanding that in future when
the bill OF the senator from Mississippi up, shall
be separated as to give one portion TO the Judiciary
Committee, and the other to the Committee Ter
ritories.
Mr. DOUGLAS would suggest that the senator from
Alabama does understand the real point make in
sist that the subject OF State bill, well territorial
the carving Of State out Of Territories the considera
ton whether Territory shall be erected into State that
was referred that committee, and Is now in the House
As chairman of the Committee Territories, reported
the bill for the admission of Texas into the Union.
Mr. DODGE, OF Iowa, Gnterposing) OF Iowa, also.
Mr. DOUGLAS Yes. sir. for the admission OF the
same committee reported the bill for the admission of
Wisconsin Then the bills for the admission OF States in
to the Union uniformly went TO the Committee on
nj frpnn that
jurisdiction OF the Committee Territories has been
carved of the Judiciary Committee therefore propose
now 10 have the question are the duties OF
this committee And will only say that the chairman
Of the Judiciary Committee will have all the advantage
Of being upon both the committees.
Mr.. KING. did not understand the precise views OF
with Them | am disposed to give to the Committee on
Territories the subject Of the formation of government
State government am disposed 10 give the consideration
Of that question TO the Judiciary Committee. we have
done and again in this body until very recent
agrees with all the regulations prescribed by the constu
ton Of the United States That properly belongs to the Ju
dietary Committee; and do not see how we can settle
the question now. II will be sufficient for the examna
ton and determination OF that question, regards the
territorial government and Territories, when they present
themselves for admission under State government
chooses we will decide il then; but cannot certainly
decide upon this question. we did decide in favor oil
sending them to the Committee on Territories, should be
u
disposed to vote TO send the question Of territorial gov
emments TO the Committee on Territories.
Mr. BERRIEN obtained the floor, but gave way to
Mr.. DOUGLAS, who said Ii has been suggested TO
to include in my motion the other bill also make
the notion therefore, jointly for both cases.
Mr. FOOTE hope my friend will not insist upon that
notion for this am prepared to vote that the
resolution under discussion today should 60 to his com
mitee but should wish the bill referred to the other
COMMITTEES because appropriately belongs them
Mr. DOUGLAS Then l. will waive that, and stand
upon my original motion.
Mr. BERRIEN. Mr. President, il I understand, the
prayer OF the memoralists presents precisely the
alluded by the senator from Alabama II asks in the
alternative that the people OF Dessert may be admitted
either State or Territory That people have
formed constitution, which they have transmitted and
sdeed by Congress in the first instance: Shall they be
admitted State That is the first question which
they present to you II you refuse them admission as
State, then they ask you 10 admit them as Territory.
The reference proper TO the Judiciary Committee, and
not to the Committee on Territories | sure, from
the view be has presented which be that enter
aped by the Senate after very full discussion upon the
reference OF the California BILL that he will concur in the
course which the Senate pursued at that time. II this
territorial form OF government, then his view would be
coect but they ask, the first instance TO be admitted
State. This their first request, therefore proper
Tor consideration by the Judiciary Committee, according TO
the OF the Senate, and according its decision last
session, after very elaborate discussion.
Mr.. KING asked for the reading OF the memorial.
The VICE PRESIDENT. The memorial is not here.
Mr. BERRlEN. The Senator from Illinois will ADM,
that il is in the alternative.
Mr. DOUGLAS. Certainly, the memorial is as stated
BY the Senator from Georgia.
Mr. KING am satisfied, then, that De proposition