The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-03-15

The VICE PRESiDENT. The Chair may be wrong.
Does the 10 say that the question Of recep
| ton is not debatable at all N
Mr. KING. II is not debatable, except to state the
Mr. HALE The practice has been different
KcE VICE pREsIDRST NS is ~ u The Chair does not know
what has been the Practice but is Of opinion that the
question Of reception is debaiable. Rs
i MT KING. appeal to the senator from Kentucky,
whether not right in the statement have made. II
was carried 90 far even in the House Of Representatives.
IN celebrated case. when the senator himself was in the
chair Mr. Randolph would say that he intended 10 pre-
such and such papers, and would make long speeches
upon them and when be had finished be would not Pre-
sent them at all II was then decided that the paper must
be first received, and the question must be taken upon
that. before any discussion could be had at all Am
/ Mr.. CLAY bowed in assent.
The VICE PRESIDENT stated that the motion Of re-
cepon had been raised and unless there linn
the right sss that motion. s s p.
Mr.. KING. Imght put i upon another ground. that
on the table. which is evidently not debatabls
The VICE PRESIDENT. That motion has not been
M KING. understood the senator from Maryland
object 70 the reception, and to move TO lay that ques
Several SExAroRs. No; he only objected TO the rs-
Mi. CHASE / rise solely to the question 81 order,
whether the motion to receive be be not debstable
point That precedent is the debate in the British Par
lament upon the subject Of receiving memorial from
Of the American colonies At very early psrod IN The
was then question whether the right OF petition should
Be far regarded to receive that memorial That PEI
ton is presented to the American Senate. grave de-
bate and full debate to whether the petition
should be received or no debate which terminated at
LENGTH in the overthrow Of the friends Of freedom in that
body; and that petition, setting forth the grievances Of
American colony was refused reception IN the House OF
Lords Of Great Britain But even that body did not 60
far IN nrOun naad IN 10 har YbaV mot
fuse allow any reference TO the merits o the petition
upon the question TO receive only add, that the
presenting the petition required to state it's substance
and the substance being stated the question OF reception
arose The precedent therefore, seems to me, in
p'M Mr. DICKINSON. The business to which the petition
relates has already been reported BY the appropriate COM
y h 70
therefore be to lie upon the table Now, for myself.
care very little wha, becomes Of this class Of petitions
Mr. KING, lin his seatl Nor l. saf
Mr. DICKINSON, (continuing) But we are in the
middle OF the fourth month OF the session. The most
urgent business Of the session has been delayed BY the
and the Senate Of he United States seems to be only an
hs cs and Ss s q
which the question has produced, move to make the
proper disposition Of this quesonthat which beongso
not for that reason. might make the
ton move to Lay the question OF reception, the ques
tiOn NC Of ordsr and the whole, b upon the s table able
is competent for the senator from New York to make
that motion, when yielded the floor only because was
called 70 order and the only question before the Senate
is, whether am in order or not
Mr. DICKINSON. moved to lay that question Of
The II Il VICE PRESIDENT. The senator from Ohio
[Mr CH.srl took the floor
M. HALE; Hall gpon the question Of order only.
Mr. DICKINSON have right to move to lay the
Mr.. HALE. Not while | have the floor.
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair is in doubt
Mir: DICKINSON The senator from Ohio has intsr-
vened and discussed.
Mr. HALE. No, sir; il was upon the point Of order
that question pending, hold that is not competsnt
for anybody to take away my right to the floor By any no
The VICE PRESIDENT The senator from Nav
Hampshire [Mr. HALEl discussing the question
Of reception, when be was called % order By the sensos
the senator from Alabama TO state his point Of order
The senator from Ohio arose. as the Char supposs TO
discuss the question: The Chair in9ared whether the
reply Ths senator from Ohio went on, as the sena-
tor from New Hampshire supposed. upon the question Of
Mr. CHASE. Cnierposing.) stated most unsquiyo-
cay, when rose thai the point OF ORDER and to
that alone. and for the purpose OF furnishing precedent
which the rule OF the senator from Alabama was not
The VICE PRESIDENT ruled that the senator from
New Hampshire, having the floor, could not be deprived
Mr. KING, lin hiss his seat, G Thai That Is right at
Mr. HALE. Mr. President, was BY no means, when
took my seat delivering "euogy upon the horrors OF
slavery" l was commencing III was speaking in ia
vor oil it, was saying that they gave the right OF trial
by jury to the slaves in the slave States, and
trastng favorby with the situation OF in the free
States that called free; showing that they gave the
slaves fully the right of trial by jury in the slave
States than this bill guaranteed freemen In free States
That il. And having made that point, simply
wish to say that consent TO purchase peace by
the surrender Of such right that OF trial by juyhe
most valuable right we have, and right which, in the
language OF the Declaration OF Independence, is fomi-
dable TO tyrants only"
Iwant 10 say another word to the senator from New
York, mr. DIcKNsos1 whose sensbiltes, even TO his
olfactoes, much disturbed BY discussion OF this
sort Who introduced the discussion this morning.
Fanatical abolitonistsi Are we the individuals who
disturb the Senate with this discussion No. sir; u
the senator from Maryland. II there is anything 70
disturb the nostrs OF the senator from New York In this
discussion, II comes from senator south Of Mason ana
Dixons ne and not from senator north Of that line
We are not guilty Of IT,
L will repeat that will never consent, upon any terms
or conditions al ALL to surrender this right for which our
fathers perled eveythng-the right OF trial by jury.
Il OF the enphatical causes which LED to the
Declaration Of Independence and which lustihed our
fathers for going into the revolutionary war, that the
King had in many deprived us OF the benefit OF the
trial by jury. ii the trial by jury was worth
years bloody war in TO- is certainly worth struggle
upon this floor yet and will be surrendered by me sr
any hazard or under any circumstances
Mr. DICKINSON. will not be drawn into any de.
bate upon the subject repeat what have said before
in the middle OF the fourth month OF the session