The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-04-10

reference all the great articles OF farming, take the
committee We make that distinction with regard to
horticultural products and the products Of the orchard
with regard to which il is obviously difficult ascertain
the amount actually produced; and il is sufficient in the
opinion OF the committee, 10 get the amount sold
Now, SIR, il thought could add anything which
would enghten the Senate. which would in any way
but desire to be brief possible and il any gentle
man 10 al loss upon any point, ready for one, and
so IS every member oi The committees 10 give any norma
ton which have in our possession, and which he
wants.
Mr. President send to the Chair tables No. /. No 2.
No 4, and No. 6-that is the table upon the white pop
ulaon the table upon the slave population, the table
embracing deaths, the table embracing the products
of industry, and the table embracing manufactures
Mr. BUTLER wish to know Of the senator from
Massachusetts, whether the tables could be amended con-
Mr. DAVIS, Of MASSACHUSETTS, The only objection Is
The PRESIDING OFFICER The Chair did not hear
distinctly motion OF the from Massachusetts,
the committee which 10 The tables sen % the
Chair and to insert these in the place These ae
the table on the white population the table on the slave
table relating to the products Of industry Those are the
four tables which sent to the Chair propose to SUBJ
stute them for the four corresponding tables Of the
mittee.
The PRESIDING OFFICER The Chair understands
the proposition to be to strike from the present bill the
tables numbered 2, and 5, and to insert those four
q, - o.
Mr.. DAVIS, of Massachusetts, That is csrrect
Mr. BUTLER. Mr. President. move to amend by
striking out the names Of slaves. and inserting. in lieu
thereof. the words "number of slaves" do not I'M
The PRESIDING OFFICER. To which 81 The tables
does the senator from South Carolina Mr. BuTLERl
Mr.. BUTLER. understand the senator from Massa-
chuses Mr. DAvIsl to to substitute these new
bes for those contained in the bill refer TO the table
which relates to the slave population move TO strike
cut from it the words "Dames of slaves and to insert the
words number of slaves"
The PRESIDING OFFICER To amend the amend
MIR MI. BUTLER Yes, sir.
Mr.. DAVIS, Of Massachusetts. 1t is quite mmateral
to me what course is pursued in getting at this
ton. The object in taking the was to facilitate
the action OF the il is believed il would
do and that would aid in procuring the other valuable
information sought for do not know that it is very
do not feel disposed to go into discussion on it.
Mr.. BUTLER Il was never done in taking any other
II will give useful information, and can
possible good purpose that be served by it. Il
has always been considered sufficient to take the number
OF the slaves and seems to me wholly unnecessary
waste OF the time and labor of the takers Ii
would make an immense book to give list Of all the
slaves in the United States, and when made il would not
contain particle Of useful information 1t would be
OF no possible use that can see.
Mr.. DAVIS. 'of Massachusetts,. Does the honorable
propose simply take the aggregate number OF
hi NJ saEsf 9s . the number Of the slaves
Mr. DAVIS Then you will lose the benefit Of the
Mr. BUTLER Not at alt The age and the sex will
remain, and be classified as beoreso many under ve
years, SO many from five TO ten many from ten to
is there in taking an immense list Of names
Mr. UNDERWOOD II we learn the age and sex OF
each slave to be taken. will be seen al once that the
master and the aker will both have their atten-
ton called to each individual slave upon the Plantation
Zach must be the subject of individual reference al
the tme order to ascertain the and and to sat
a a.tho axrh rh aEar
to make. Now, il seems to me that, in order to do all
this, the best way is to get at the name At once
Mr.. BUTLER. Why take it down. What use is
Bill" and "Cun." and .Pompey." and so on, until you
have filled volumes with them Z [Laughierl
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. There is certainly no very great
necessity for those classical for their sakes
whether Ciceros, or Pompeys, or Cesars or Cutfes
But have said that, in making the other inquiries you
atey and then it is certain that the takers
actually get on and make better progress in their bust
ness, by taking the name OF each individual rather than to
make series OF calculations with reference 10 the
sexes, &c You will have, in the OF your exami
nation, to take each child by ITSELF and consider its age
and sex. and make memorandum OF each fact; and
you will find, before you get through with family or
plantation, and make your entries in the book, that you
have whole sheet of paper covered with quite complicated
caculations-al Of which will be avoided BY taking the
OF each individual as you progress and entering the
facts opposite the name, which will then furnish
body OF information in such shape that easily be
classified afterwards lido believe after free examina
ton OF the subject that you do it much faster and
better by making entry OF each particular name, and
passing on from one TO another saving all these comp
Gated calculations.
Now, sir, this plan has been adopted with reference
to the white population The old system OF proceeding
put down the population according classification
under years, between and 10 years, between 10 and
Is years. between Is and 90 years, and on, up TO
100 years. and above that The effect OF that arrange
ment to involve the taker in the confusion of
all those calculations which have referred,
tain the particular classes 10 which the different ndvid
uals TO be assigned in making the entries in the
book; and thought that, in making the calculation,
he would really exPend far more time and more labor
against the name OF each individual This seems, ndee
TO be the very easiest and simplest way OF attaining the
object believe that by adopting it. you will save time,
and get accurate information than you can by the
old plan.
Mr.. BUTLER. VIII you print all that mass OF names
Mr.. UNDERWOOD Not at all There is q total
mistake upon the subject is not proposed TO print the
OF the white population and OF course the names
OF the black population not to be published either
You get the elements by this nqury--you get the ee.
ments only upon which classification is subsequently to
be based and you get them in the simplest and most
orderly arrangement which be DEVISED by which sub
sequent classification you arrive at the ages OF each par
cular class OF persons, from birth upwards from the
lowest to the highest Ii is this compendium which is 10
themselves are not TO be published at all.
MIR. YULEE | would then ask the honorable senator
what advantage there possibly be in taking down the
OF all the inhabitants OF the United States, white
and black. il they not TO be publisheds What ad-
vantage is there in knowing that there s John Smith IN
New York. and another John Smith in Kentucky, and
another in Georgia.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD No advantage
Mr.. YULEE. What benefit,
Mr. UNDERWOOD. None at all. t|s