The New York herald., 1850-04-29
The Trades.
MKKTNG or TIE cARPEyTERs-cURIous DEBATE OK
SOCIALISM,

An adjourned meeting Of the carpenters held on
Friday night, at Convention Hall Wooster street Be
fore the meeting osgsnized desutory converse
tions took place. One said 'Where Is Brisbane p
| Another, II don't know; tho Herald down ON him
In leading article. He Won't come"
1t nearly hour after the appointed time wher
| Mr.. Andrew white was called to the chair and Mr.
bers then present
The minutes Of the last meeting read by the
Secretary.
There wa. long pause. No one appeared inclined
to address the chair.
CHAIRMAN-whst's your further pleasure, gentle
men! no response for several minutes)
SEcRrTARr-I would inquire IL any person present
knows Of men wishing to employ hands at fourteen
The CHAlRMAs repeated the question, and said, if
there is, hope they would report
For considerable time the meeting silent. At
last the Secretary who appeared be the Of
the affsir) sad, Mr. Chairman, 1 understand that
Mr.. Board. of Franklin street, wants to employ six
men at fourteen shillings a day"
The CHAIRMAN again called for reports upon which
erapersons twenty five out ofa meeting OF about y)
stood and saidtheir emp fourteen shngs
day some of them said that want ed in their
establishments at that rate Of wages Not more than
sLillings day only were given
There was another long pause; after which men,
to do that the Secretary read the editorial article in
the Herald Of Tuesday Qaughter)
The motion was carried and the article headed $50
calism in New ork, was tolerably well read by the
Secretary.
The speaker then commenced curious analysis of
the article That's very we'll" said he but James
Gordon BENNETT Is capitalist and never heard Of
capitalist advocating any interest adverse to his
seek was rendered necessary by increase of house
rent and increase Of provisions growing out of the
general prosperity Of the country. As far as am
concerned-andI was one Of the first call the meet
ingI say 1t Is no such thing 1t Is decided error;
and as Mr. Bennett never attended our meetings him
sef-laughcr)-hc can know nothing about 1t. lie
says the strike was sustained by the and the pub
lie. would like to know IL that is correct Where
there six papers in New York that have supported
us The Journal ef Commerce had a very scurril-
lous article about US. Various other papers have
favor but ii is that kind of public opinion
US no good. ! may have the public opinion of the
blacksmith who lives in the house with me, but
would rather have the public opinion of Wm Il. Astor
than that of all the men in this room (.aughter) As
to what Mr. Bennett says about the Tribune, | don't
believe that know II has published our meetings
well as any other paper and know any man
who would not just as work in the Tribune In
the Herald never knew printer that wouldn't ra-
ther work for SIR Greeley than for MIR Bonnett go
to our homes" / don't think Mr. Bennett's advice
Is as good as II he told us to come here, hold
meetings and not to 60 to work at thirteen shilng
day. believe there very fw who make of the
term socialism who know what IL means the
that they call socialists and bcleyt Mr. Brisbane
H. aman such ss Mr.. Bennett describes: he IL red
republican," but he wants nothing from youno office;
he comes to aid US in obtaining fair recompense for
our labor he does not want money out Of your pockets
ss Mr.. Bennett and every man who keeps public
iaoiirhmeni does NOW, suppose instead OF working
journeywoIk for boss, twelve of take place OF
your and work for yourselves that socialism!
The - boss lives out Of town. aud keeps splendid
house, gets up nj nine o'clock in the morning, and
drives into town but you have chance of
buying lot and your thirteen sh,ngs day spent
before the end of the week Nr Bennett thinks
rible state of things that should work tor them
seyes; doubt he would consider IL bad thing
lot ofmen should get toget nd publish paper which
would have ns good a circulation as the Herald rhe
speaker continued to quote from the article in the
Herald -" We warn the mechanics and working people
Of New York against the insdious teachings of these
visionary philosophers Let them attend To their
business, and avoid, as they would the plague, the
theoretical nonsense which Brisbane and ms associates
desire to inst into them. Their teachings resemble
the apples which the borders Of the Dead Sea
shorr-s fair without brt corruption within and turn
aches the lip 81 lie then said IL does appear 60
me that an insult TO the working Of New York To
think that thcy could be frightened Will such bugbear
this Mr. Price then wandered to history for illus
tration Of his yi.w but not being well able succeed
himself he called en- learned brother chip TO explain
the story of the Gracch which ing been 60
satisiacon of all present the secretary continued a do
not wish To- Thousands o of land in the hands
Of any one man; do NOT wish that state Of things
J which gives power TO one man by which he could
put you out o your land just the landlords do in
Ireland 20 in for the law of limiting man TO 100
acres. object To having such a large tract Of
land and having the terror of life death over you;
but don wish TO 20 into that subject, IL Is forcgn
10 the question" The speaker again quotes from the
Herald and continues n.y. n Mr. Brisbane has no
right to give us his opinion advice what right has
Mr. Bennett 30 that his own argument l. wrong-h.
Il not practising what he breaches QaughtcrJ Then
he says Every man eau take care of himself
don't believe that either; its all Cannon. loud
lHuphter) Mir Bennett saw the time when he wasn't
able 10 take care OF himself lie work II TOR Jas Wat
a
y talented man, and hc has done well for himself
lie Is now capitalist and he looks 20 tho interest Of
capitalists aud when man with paper advocates
capitalists, bankers, insurance companies, and fuch
Ike they will n take his paper whether they like Il or
not, have seen the day When guldnt pay my
board and no doubt many Of you find u hard TO pay
your rent 70 II is perfect "gammon TO say tina, a
man can take care Of himself It's my opinion II Mr..
Bennett made shoes for n living he would Gnd a man
couldn't take Of himself; aud think he is very
wrong In trying to instil into your minds that every
man s sble TO take of himself Wen the Herald
q he laITL tuaI l..
York Tttrns for long time past that journal being
the particular and espccia organ Of those dsorgani
Sers IL sufficient TO convince them of the truth OF
what wesay Compelled they have been. To- nec
nom France. where their headquarters were. and
where they endeayorod TO create disturbances beween
The different orders OF society, they have made New
York their refuge and are endca,orng TO achieve here
what they failed in accomplishing there's rs-orgsn-
zncn a. they term H. 81 society for the beaet Of the
working man, but. call u. Reorganization Of
AL regulations social end political that would tend to
the injury % all Yes he says the socialists were
obliged TO fly from Francc--.o was Louis Philippe
Mr. frisbene was compelled. bccaus. he had been
going round endcavoring TO inst into tho mind. OF
the mechanics the justice Il looking 20 their own
rights. Mr.. Brisbane obliged to nv from France
kosfutb was obliged to ~ from his country too. Mr.
B'nn.t cay The instinct of acquisition. for wise
purposes. l. implanted IN the breast II every Of
Adam. That instinct g. the basis aud foundation OF
energy. enterprisc. and Industry deny that Give
child sNpencc In the street aud instead Il putting
away he goes and buys candies aud divides theS with
his laymates.n
! AniNn.n DO You think Mr. bennett will publish
your speech to- night p.oud laughter)
MT Pnpr-l dare ssy he would. " paid him Tor H.
but. arprehend his reporter will give u
tr)
MIR Pricr continued-Therc are splendid p,laee.
built up in broadway, and the mechanics that con
structsd them are living In very humble places Mr.
Bennett says ITO array capital against labor would be
TO destroy TO great extent both" That's all very
true but II T. already arrsycd against labor aud
therefore they refuse TO give you fourteen shilings
day tarpcars TO be the capitalists intention 10 re-
Mr. n.e,ssA, drew up a resolution, which he offered