Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1850-10-29
STATE REFORM CONVENTION,
Eleventh Day. Saturday, October .6th, $3.50.

Prayer hy the Rev Mr. Reed of the PRESBYTERIAN Church
/ im ILEsk read the journal ui Yesterday
s va announced The first business in order 10 bc ic
rp'ito the Committee of hirteen and that Mr. Scorr t
f!uGiier was entitled IL lie rloor
a "toTT proposed offer an amendment; but b,fo,
'"S ~ ' begged 10 ollrr few renaiss Ia H. IL WAS
".n''r ~ 'hc committee which made thc report aud al
' "ir oi IT'S consideration difficulty had suggested isrl
!" MS hld bui he iorboe press H. and the amendment Of
we nhn"r rom Richmond Ciiy met with hs approval ns
rApissh" MS Views He desired ma loy OF Eastern
ihrnher@ on The Committee and not dead lock-" and il
~ le appointment OF the committee by the Chair .nl or
"'u la u uie West BY reason Jf The selection Of mem
o,ts !" lie East vino might with ihe he had no
objection. ~ ~ ~ " $3.50 "
IN one portion of The State there exists large al,r.
ny "i whie populations; while in another there existed
n'lll'y o. property interest This had necessarily
gwen rise 10 diversity OF sentiment In the East We pne
,'s ohcn 10 't opinion that protection shall be given To
oPertv ana we further believe that thin can only be done
~ proper appoTiionlient OF representations Those from
me West contend that the protection which we desire in the
api'ohnehi OF representation il seeming than r.al
y say II can be better obtained by cerfnin constitutional
II we were TO De made the subjects Of experiment
lei IL oe done with great delibeaion III the drug was 10 he
administered lei II be done skuly and not for the purpose
o showing what smpes shall be- offered afterwards as an
an,ido!e y DO,
should see that would be obuned the which they
might give proper basis of representation.
Mr. y believed that the subjects OF protection property
and basis OF representation improperly disconnr'rd
and they should be referred tn the committee. He
had been taught 10 believe that taxation and representations
according to all republican doctrines so together. His
protection around property, and recognize the principle Of
representation and lxition lie frankly ayowed his OBJ
in his amendment He desired TO know whether his Valley
friends would take the white basis without the guarantee
and whether his Allegheny friends would take il with
the guarantee.
Mr. ). pleased to that his friend from Kanawha haG
come here prepared TO listen argument and reason and with
mind open 10 conviction He pleased because that
member in his canvass had been peculiar advocate
the white basis and Mr. s. had supposed that he had
here enlisted soldier Field Marshal prepared
lead his cohorts To the III. pleased learn
that his mind was open Ia conviction. He was pleased 10
hear that prepared Ia Tor Cons based
upon republican principles 1t urged ancient times
that mere malores should govern but loreathers
diying this had given true republican government
hl government which said that MAORI Of numbers
should rule but lie concndcd properly the majorv of
interests. If not, why not have monarchy HE had as
soon have King Stork King Numbers When the
lriy Of interest does with the majority Of num-
the only security blending the Two together
The principle which he held and by which he intended TO
stand was that property had right be protected. He
desired charge the committee also with the basis OF repre-
senaon the proper safeguards TO be thrown around prop
prry II they reported the mixed basis they might report
that the protection Of property in the Legislative pow
II the white then let them report the safeguard proper
in addition. member who concurred with The West was
for restricting the Legislature the imposition OF tax
white persons twothirds votes and that taxes shall
be laid on property The ad rt0rem principle
Well, sir taxes this way-ohterafe these noun
tain ridges and apply !, & to me whole Stale; h, ana
of the wealth nf the State in locatyo call things oy
proper names is in slaves Then what would be the etrct
Why would tax the infant IN me otnrr arms ana 90
on up Ten cents would be paid ihe value OF ll in the
slave and ~ would be paid for the same amount IN land
another locality Let taxation and representation go oee-
and property but change md apply tnf d
aiore principle the white basis and the locality OF power
changed. lie desired keep together these fundamental
psincipcs-axalion and representation e i'puo
iranSn had uine together and which the irs resolution
Of the committee desired 10 separate lie trusted tna he
House wonld nov understand from ihr Valley members whe
hcr they would take the white basis without the guarantee
and from the members from The West with the
guarantee. He had prepared the following amendment rs
embracing his views
"And also TO take n,o insd.ration and report what
s,ricton any, may b9 deemed expedrni 10 impose on the
Legislative department. to guard against an undue exercise OIL
the taxing power"
gnl his friend from berkeley had proposed the following,
which being rather fu in terms he now offered In
lieu of hia own. He proposed 10 make no change in ms
resolution the committee but 10 add the amendment 10 IL
lnd also consider and report upon all sch proholtons
and Limitations Of legislative power which they may deem II
expeden, adopt in conneAon with The SUBJECT o repre-
scnalion." ;,
majo ry on the committee. Though ho not one OF The
actual majority of the House, yet he felt as one VINO souo
be in the majority of the House in equity and all ms ioe
ings and views influenced by this belief II" had heard
compromise suggested from both sides OF Tho House. ana
ha was yield anything per force OF what he deemed 10 oe
proper and right ne would rather do il for the peace oi n'
commonwealth under the repor, OF this committed he
thought it constituted To accomplish compromise
than any other He did think that The proprietary nte
rests of the State had boen assarted BY the member IRON
Fau1nier could sfr from tho report OF this committee
He believed West entitled 10 the bass and he believed
,hai when had The power would be exercised I'LL
der control regulated by the highest considerations
n,trioism md Justice He In favor OF eyemp'in
white persons from taxation: and in the hour oil DANGER
thought every man should be prepared TO bear MS prop
burden He did not conceive that the al raortm taxatoi
ouI onerat uny more harshly the East than the esl
Though they might have the same slave popnlaoh w
haa Dlher property whicn would Or subjected 10 the S
| taxation. ,., .,.. -.,.
Mr. ARyErr said that he had voted seady for tho repor
of the committee in good fai,h bat he now rose !" say
that unless the amendment was adopted ne sh'u '''
against the report h.,,
Nj ASprraos rose for purpose o expressing the hope
that hs Western friends would vote for The aisnamen
After listening the able rcTarSi whic han illeh lIoI
the member from Fauquer, lie thohgh' sich ah uh'eu''
IA he had Offered proper one
Mr. PR,cE should vote for the amendment, bu thought
singular that "Elstern" man should oiie' A''',
amendment ,,.-.-,.o,
Mr ScorT explained that he had prepared his amendmen
without any consultation with the member from Berkeley
He had merely adopted il. ,.
ws had better seaarate State. II the anendnieh, n'
come from Western member lie should have res.aeu n
sei-imputation; but coming from the f's'' III ""S I'M
Mr.. CAnluE was willing to vote for the amendment vi
nm amendment and that 10 give ihc coh'uei", -,
1bo l,lter clause 10 the resiuary committee proPo ~
created by the 81 resolution, OF the report o M
tec He would much prefer the Amendment oi!sj sj ,ha,
M by the member from Fnuquer- lie "o" nv
va" M - pnowS Of P was willing TO vote i"r el'her al'r
men II, was not Of those VINO reea,ueu ppy mir IN
element of political power nu nc ua hond nal deay Il
for high Constitutions P'
House from n vote. .. 49, .,,onJ,,en, which ha
w W. Mr.asnird by the member from Fduquie iie 'hous
he conmtee should be- charged with the consideration
hoth the subject Of representation, md me l'nu'
forred TO- The committee had solemn ';ns ~ ~ me
,h, had 10 make a repmi which might oemahu a1n w =;
ihey mao d;ce hut none Of principle. They had to s
s,;sf,c,ion to The East and TO the west ana nc
moeen 10 do it, The East he hoped did no uesh. I ~ ~
far nowers sake; he trusted they only aesifeu W. m -
,ccrinn which il gave property lhls ros''b ~ h no
he ,be 10 report par under the lesoiuo. ~ a VI J.;
81 ,bc Chair hy which the West would be gaaIah'eer i
nosssssion OF political equality and right ana ''e a''
cured fully in the protection OF property =. ,or,ue
NJ Erucrsos believed that the object VI so'ei. @ -
ys he nroocon of property and persons anu he E va,
# ng T., seq tho amendment Of the member rom ai
d,,sd He deemed proper that proper chechs anu
d should be established. and proper rest'ic'io"' '' ~
y | The abuse Of the Legislative powers.
Mr. CAMDEN did desire to make speech id ut y,
ii ,ress he hone that the member from Barbour "u 40
.a,y hi. amendment and let the vote De .ahe On I nj s
i,inn of the member from Fauquer without tue Can "
ayes and noes. me ,. tor III. amendment of
mher from Fauonier but should have done so WIN NV III
Of ieosrs without his speech. He was wi!lns 10 sNe
nrnplest protection TO property aelien, -, =, hs hr
ha man should earn his bread by the swea. Oh MS ",
enacted that property should be Protecte1 nn m "au az
bsen educated in that school which sala 'ha' property ~
he tho element of political power.
One remark had grated upon his ear ms morning rom
,,onher from f. when he spoke oil me tram oamas
"hn'. nf ,he West" Ii that member only meant "tal