Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1850-01-05


man from Ohio once for ALL without intending any personal
dsrespec the gentleman, that he did not design to answer
his interogaories He had had quite too many OF them
quite much aside from any direct purposes Che had al
most used stronger phrase, bat he would not violate
the courtesy Of the Househe had had quite too many Oh
them treat them with any great respect he hao seen
going the rounds of the papers over the signature
Of the gentleman from Ohio which he was prepared prove
which had been proved be without the shadow Of founda
ton in fact The honorable gentleman from Ohio had voted
against him Mr. w for Speaker two years slnce ana mad
in vindicaon of himself in the oho papers, ana
arrayed against him Mr. fact or what the gentleman
called fact which had the shadow of truth lie (M
wy dared say the honorable member believed to be true
he did mpugn the gentlemans yeracy, neither should
the gentleman tempt him (Mr w to do It. but the gen
eman had stated fact that which not fact that
which was utterly false. He had accused him Mr. Of
going into the Wing at the time the war Dill was
about to passed in this House, and making speech In Ia
vo of the war and had placed his whole course OF action
against him (Mr. W. Speaker of the House upon that
ground He (Mr. w had testimony from gentlemen whom
the House would trust, and whom the honorable member
would be obliged trust amply sufficient to prove that an
entirely erroneous and unfounded statement
Mr. GIDDINGS (nterPosing) desired respectfully 10 IN
oure of the gentleman from Massachusetts, whether he IN
tended to represent that his (Mr WINTHRops course upon
the question the only objection he (M g. had Ia
ken to him as Speaker a.
Mr. WINTHROP replied that he had only intended to
mark that this was burden of gentleman sletter
that he (Mr.W had been supporter Of the Mexican war,
and in particular that he had to the wing caucus the
morning on which the bill introduced into this House, and
in speech had called upon his colleagues to with hlm The
gentleman from Ohio had made that charge in his first letter.
which he (M W. had Denied and which had been proved
to be without foundation in fact The gentleman, ne lMr'
wy believed had repeated that charge in second letter al
it had been denied He (Mr. denied still and he
contended that the honorable member having twice stated
what untrue, and not having Withdrawn 1t when 1t
had been proved to be untrue was no longer entitled to
respect.
Mr. GIDDINGS, (interposng.) Does the gentleman ad
NIT the truth Of the letter Of E. D. Culver, Of New FORK Is
that true or false
Mr. WINTHROP. I pronounce the whole statement
false that at that meeting or any other time, made
speech in favor of the pronounce the whole statement
to be false .... +"
Mr.. GIDDINGS. pronounce it to be true.
Mr.. WINTHROP (resuming) said he would now proceed
to notice another which had been made this
ing by the gentleman from Ohio The honorable member had
said that he had refused to for Speaker who had sedu
lousy composed the Committee the District of Columbia
with view uphold and maintain the slave trade in the
| District of Columbia. ......."- ~. ~.
Mr. GIDDINGS. Isaid that the gentleman had arranged
committee which had sedulousy maintained and protected it.
Mr.. WINTHROP said he thought the House would bear
him witness that the honorable gentleman had said that the
Speaker Of the last Congress had sednousy composed the
Committee the District of Columbia with view TO protect
the slave trade in the District But he took the statement as
the gentleman made it, that he Mr.. W. had arranged
committee which had seduousy upheld and maintained the
slave trade in the District of Columbia At the very last SEES
sion of Congress the committee appointed oy MN mr.. W.
had reported to this House bill to abolish the slave trade IN
the District Of Columbus and when the motion made to
Law on the table, Of the nine members who constituted
that committee had voted against laying the table, He
r had the impression that the bill was draughed by the
gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. BRowN, who was now in
his He remembered that that gentleman had risen and
explained and indicated the BILL 1t bill which had
been assend to by gentlemen ON all sides of the House, by
gentlemen from the South well by gentlemen from the
North There upon that committee five gentlemen from
the North and four from the South There Of the
bers of the House hundred and forty from the free States
and ninety from the slave States. He would leave it to the
House and the country to judge how the proportions in the
two cases correspondent. .....
But that committee did report bill for that purpose and,
in the face of that fact the honorable gentleman from Ohio
had risen and accused him (Mr W with having Gas the
gentleman made the staement constructed Committee
for the District of Columbia which seduousy protected and
upheld the slave trade in this District and that the gentle
had assigned his for voting against him.
Mr. GIDDINGS (inerposing) said he understood the gen.
eman from Massachusetts, to have said that that committee
reported bill abolish the slave trade in the District of CO.
umba There stood the record and upon that record he
MR. CD pronounced that utterly unounded assertion
The record showed such thing The bill reported by that
committee only prohibited the bringing in slaves from other
States, but did touch the traffic within the District
Mr. WINTHROP (continuing) said he confessed the dis
ncion which the gentleman from Ohio took had not
red to him material to this 1t was possible the bill
did 60 quite far the honorable gentleman from Ohio
and those who acted with him thought ought have gone.
But by gentlemen upon all sdesat least by gentlemen from
the free Statss- had been regarded very great improve
upon any bill which had previously been reported the
that that at least sufficient evidence-sviience which
ought to have prevented the gentleman from Ohio from
rising in his place and charging him (M W. with having
sedulousy constructed the committee Gas the gentleman
viewed the charge) with having constructed
mee which sedulousy protected the slave trade in this
District. w.. -'.
In concluding he said that he had been betrayed into
mars Of much greater length than he had intended He had
not lnsaded allow the gentleman from Ohio to rue his
eehhg He trusted he should very his ordinary
proportion O. camness. There might time in the
course Oh the son, when he might feel more at liberty than
lau ever than he felt, to go into this
suec aha say soohing in reply.to the gentleman from
OHIO and to the genle from Tennessee He did not see
II. at 'hs tme' however go deliberately into reply to
either Of those gentlemen but Huld leave them for The pe
sent, to answer each other -
Mr.. ROCKWELL addressed the Rouse He said Nj,
Speaker the honorable gentleman from Ohio (Mr. GIN
DISGs in his remarks TO the House this moaning said that
the Committee the Territories, appointed by lay honorable
colleague Mr WIsTHRop) at the last session OF the last
Congress- refused report bills for the organization of terri
tora containing the provisions Of the ordinance
of 1887, Or he calls it, the Wimo provso, until they
instructed to do by of the House When he
made that statement and inquired of him he meant
to that fact the House and the country In
ply the gentleman said that he would alter his phaseoogy,
and would say that that committee neglected report those
bills containing that until they instructed do
by the House He then appealed to the record and sad
wi air of triumph that did and would stand upon that
record that that committee neglected that duty until they
instructed perform by the House evidently intend
ing convey the idea that the committee neglected their duty
in this regard for long period time that the House
obliged to instruct them to do what the majority of that
mee would otherwise have done viz to report bills for
territorial governments in New Mexico and California
tanning the restrictions the subject of domestic slavery
which were part Of the ordinance Of 1857.
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