The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-10-05

senator from Virginia complains that the COMMITTEES on
Finance had no, an opporuniiy 10 examine these and
other propositions Submitted 70 them BY the COMMITTEES
% M dGaaG HuATEs The senator from Missouri i m.a
ken. did not COMPLAIN. nor have the committee com
planned that they have had no time Tor us examination
but that the claim submitted to the Senate. What
said was, thsa II was the duty o the Committee on FL
ded for under existing laws did not Complain 81 the
Committee on Indian Aiiairs; did not ask that they
should present their propositions TO the Committee on
Mr, ATCHIS0N, Then the senator from Virginia
and other members of that committee complained that
they had had no opportunity to investigate this matter
that they knew nothing about IT, believe that il true.
that they do know nothing about it. they would not
make this Opposition % H. They have not examined H.
Well. whose fault y mat The senator from Virginia i
senator upon this 1oor, as well as q member of the
COMMITTEES on Finance The report made from the Com
mii,se Indian fairs BY the senator from Arkansas
nas pssn osIo'e w Ssnae ior nearly Two mgnns nsa
read this report Snd examined this matter.
But. Mr. President, rose for this purpose to say that
ior myself and other o our commi,ies that hey
before them, psd gvi "a opportunity to explain i t.
them that W. might hare their APPRECIATION and their
currence. o ihs purpose Of saving The time Of the
Senate under the circ stances. Il was promised The
chairman u ths Commss O. Finance tod me ,as, he
charge, and subsequently, that the senator from Mary
land NJ PEARcEl had t6e bill in his charge 10
their copmi,lee-Ioom' Aps inquired Of them when il
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Committee on Indian AAairs II is true that have the
utmost confidence in the ability Of that committee and in
Their courtesy also But although they promised me
IL and now they stale, for objection, that they have
Nc, hs4 me- sn cGaepSsioSSMy e e sksmins this matter
,. - nj. Wish % b say lev woTas Th WIN M
csme to us while we had the civil and diplomatic bill nn
der our consideration, which bill great work
hs bill wss pu
charge OF the senator from Vermont, [Mr. PHELPs,l he
having formerly been msmbef ol the Indian Committee
He retained il in his hands few days. but then
PEELED TO leave the Senate Tor his home. II was after
wards given in charge OF the senator from Maryland,
Mr. PEARcEl who has given il his attention. and con-
Quoted il with signal ability, be does subjects of
this kind The Committee Indian Affairs did call upon
us one occasion, and asked interview, when we
were almost swampsd with that vast bill making civil
Of turning aside from our ordinary duties We could not
have done If we would and would not If we could
Tor the bill we had under consideration was the more
important matter Ii there Is anything wrong about IT,
the Committee Indian Affairs shoul have called upon
US at earlier day for their conference-at the com
and diplomatic bill under conslderation--when we were
in the midst OF IL and in haste to report IT. made no
complaint Of that however. | said il not our bus-
ness to review lhsr report as committee repeat that
such is not theory will it be practice far
as can control H. They should have brought their sub
ects here, and obtained the action of the Senate upon
them, and then we would have appropriated Tor them IN
the manner Of past laws.
Mr. UNDERWOOD. l have sat here and given mega
tive votes upon some hall dozen propositions, upon the
ground that had no opportunity 10 investigate the
merits of the against which voted and also upon
the ground that they private claims. and had no
right to be Introduced and attached to this general ap
preparation bill have been oyerruled in every Instance
ALL to enter my protest against this species OF legislation.
and beg leave TO make two remarks in reply to
Tor ,s We are told iaa, at some
made the rule, denouncing the improperly OF this course,
then we vii adhere TO IT, Now, IL u be ACKNOWLEDGED IN
this way that this course is perfectly erroneous why not
carry out what is true and proper without ruler Why
wait for the passage of the rule TO prohibit our dong
thing acknowledged TO be utterly wrong and impfo,er
the DAY !. coming when they will make rule 10 prohibit
this course III proceeding Is condemnation oil the pfac
tice we are now lnduigng in
Gentlemen tell us mat the Committee on Indian Affairs
have examined this matter, and must take IL trust
Now, sir what is praetised every day By the Senate in
regard 10 reports OF other commitees An Indian bill
comes ny, and gentleman rises and asks for the readn
Of the repot,. wish this case Tor half q
dozen amendments have been made Suppose rise and
say that want TO hear the report read. Had we done
everything so, could not have advanced And sup
pose II the reports bal been vouminous and as inri-
cate as the senator from ONO Mr. EwIso] tells US that
this is we should have had to read and re-read before
could have comprehended IL in all It's bearngs But
instead OF taxing the ordinary course, and ask
for the reading OF the report and attempting 10 under
saud what are about and how we are making appro
priatons OF public money, TO take IL all upon
trust, and ask for the reading OF the report
but make amendment without; and that, too upon
what gr0undsi why, Is said 0y my friend from Mis-
sour r ATcHIsosI that the report has been upon your
table Tor two months and You have not read u u is
your own fault, for you have il before you. Now,
does not everybody know that we must take little por
ton OF our legislative time while we are in session 10
attend 10 the reading OF reports and understanding the
measures which the committees have introduced! IL is
new idea, suggested for the first lime. tina, we must
come into seats every morning, prepared iron PEE.
vous study TO act upon bills at once, by having already
read tue reports, and that when bill comes up we shall
thus have TO time in asking or the reading
OF the report and discussing ts merits This would be
entire change in all my legislative experience that
such is 10 be pursued, and such thing Is 10 be
made the basis Of attaching time after tme these private
bills 10 these psblic Appropriation bills.
Sir, il is all wrong And another thing il is wong
because il is partial. have had 10 feel that and ex
pect shall have to feel again for do not know but
that mag make the examples you have set me the
basis upon WINCH when some other appropriation bill
comes up may ask 10 add lew private claims upon II.
And when come forward TO do so, II meet with my
past experenee ii meet with the treatment heretofore
given 10 me- my bills will be rejected, because that is
the proper place for them Now, we ought 10 iegislae
upon general principles and all OF ought to fare alike
The committee 10 which belong have reported great
many private bills, but you know that we have not acted
has been the consumption Of time upon leading meas
ures that have excited The whole country. We have
given no attention to these private bills Now, sir, n
The experience OF the past IL any indication OF what WI
happen in the future II should bring up few oil these
private measures should expect to receive the same
tate that heretofore received have seen tins thIng
and therefore say this course - partial w s operation
upon members this floor The course H. that we are
10 receive upon trust without due examination, propesi'
tons Ior appropriations out OF the Pablo treasury
Mr. BERRIEN The stress OF the argument OF the
Kenturky WIN has taken his seat II