New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1850-12-16
IRELAND.
The Battles In England and ireland.


DUBLIN, Friday, Nov. ~
To tie Editor Of The tribune
Our institutions are in danger disguise it as we
may) ON both sides Of the Channel. The Constr
tntion is assaied our GLORIOUS Constitution IN
Church and State = for in both England and Ire,
land the Church, Establishment is perilcd in
England by the Popc's Hierarchy that makes that
of the Queen a thing OF nought; supersedes 1t as
an usurpation and in Ireland by the determine
ton to put it down in retaliation for the attack
unon the Pope's Herarcy in England by the Prime
Minister and Church Dignitaries. And the Church
Establishment is half the Consttution--and in the
estimation of ecclesiastcs the better half
And in Ireland beside tile Church Establish
Gshnaent, the power OF the Arstocracy by which
tits upheld, and which in its turn it upilods-llko
two men unsteady of foot and light of head,
neither of whom could go alone, but who totter
along mutually aided-rckety enough, 1t is true,
but who still contriye to avoid atall. The Tenant
League is likely to deal as severe blow to the
the Irish Aristocracy as the Popes Bull to the
Anglican Hierarchy but the clamor created by
the latter has drowned the cries of distress evoked
by the former | should like to try to set before
the readers of Tic Tribune the realities in regard
10 both
THE BATTLE IN ENGLAND.
1t is not between the systems that-or want OF
better, and as brief erms-we are wont to deslg-
nate Popery and Professionalism, as sPlriluol'ties,
or as religious, that the war in England RACES
The organization of the Roman Catholic Hierar-
chy is not the commencement of the aggression of
the religion that styles the Pope its earthly hoadi
- ~, Of 30 And tI,n
ance and the retaliation are not by the Bible,
which according to Chilingworth, and echoed by
all sis the religion Of Protestants; but by ap-
peal to the old statutes-or, in case of failure,
new acts of Parliament and by resolutions, and
addresses to the Queen, and vehement deuncla-
tions OF the Pope and his cergy,-al OF which VIII
not enlighten the judgment and sway the con-
science,--will neither convert Romanists nor stop
the conversion of Professionals.
We have from both sides, addresses brlmtul OF
loyalty; and as the Protestant SIDE call the Popes
Bull the aggression of q foreign potentate the
ally of foreign potentates ready to become the
enemies OF England, the Catholics declare that
the Pope has spoken-not as temporal p0tentate,
bat as the spiritual successor of Saint Peter-and
that they would be as ready to oppose any hostile
aggression Of Pope or potentate as were their an
cestors in the case of the Pope and Spaniard in
the DAYS of Elizabeth. Both sides address their
respective Bishops, and the Bishops address their
respective parties the Professionals maintaining
that it is the revival of the old controversy be-
tween PopeS and Kings, waged once with SO
much violence between the POpes and Monarchs
both here and on the Continent, only now it comes
In a milder form and under more peaceful garb,
suited TO the Pope curtaued power and the spirit
of the times while the Roman Catholics declare
that they never held the Queens supremacy in
Hpirituals, and do not by this any other proce-
dure, assert the Popes supremacy IN temporals
And the Dissenters look on, considering the strug
gle not as for substituting the Popes authority for
the Queens, " over all causes and persons eccle,
siastical as well as civil in Great Britain but as
demonstrating the overthrow OF BOTH so that the
nation NAV be at liberty I" to render unto Caesar
the things that are Caesars, and unto God the
things that God s.
AT some public meetings the Protestants have
it all their own way, The Protestant laymen
who were most eager ana efficient IN getting the
penal laws against the Roman Catholics abolished
such as the Prime Minister aud Earl FltZwl
Iisu-express amazement blended with indigna
ton, that the requital should be this assumption
of asoendancy by the Pope over the realm, thrust
ing Victoria from halt her throne, and are stu
more amazed and indignant when told that the
Pope did not volunteer, but solicited. Then
resolutions and addresses are published according
". To these the Roman Catholics reply, that i
was their holding episcopacy, in suborcinstion tc
the Pope that excluded them from equal rights
till these unholy laws were abolished-that then
they have done, get their Church III fall orEanlZG
ton or it was worthless-that the spiritual sub
lection which they refused to the Queen wher
the penal laws were in force they mean not tC
transfer now that they arc free but all the Loyalty
that law, reason, and religion demand OF them
they yield 70 the Queen. In other meetings the
Roman Cathocs--prieSts and laymen-attend &C
sindieate their religion and assert their loyalty
Then there is, of course, regular playing at sol
dlerS With Lungs and songue; and the meeting
disperses to send away the coMbatants and theli
parhzans embttered and eXasperated and on the
following Sunday pulpits and affairs resound not
with the gospel et peace, butwlth religious stElte
Where the meetings are Of the Anglican clergy
alone, the resolutions are strong against every ap
proximstion In doctrine or ritual 70 the Church al
Rome the Tractarians, and the bishops that coun
tenanced theni-are obliged to succumb to the
tide of Protestant feeling; and whereas, & while
ago the Evaugecals were threatened with eX.
pulsion for their ultra Professionalism, sad the
Times had to remind the puseyite bisots tina;
''our Church is neither the High Church nor the
Low Church, but the Broad Church wide
enough for all It's scarcely roomy enough for these
.Romanizers, especially since the Premier
thunderbot fell denouuoiag them as more bitter
foes 70 the English Church than the Pope and HI,
Catholics themselves.
There is, in truth, striking similarity between
the spirit manifested in the Irish Synod of Thurles
and these English exhibitions OF Deans and Chap
tiers, Clergy and Bishops which censorous critics
might ascrbe, neither to Popery' or Protest
antism. but to~-the clerical spirit; that is ever
exclusive and tyrannical when it has power and
an overwhelming majority of adherents, The
Thurlos Synod was sadly afraid Of the Catholic
youth touching skirts with the Protostants on tho
education benches in school and college, the re-
suit, they were sure, would be contamination and
apostacy, The Anglican Clergy are equally
averse to the iaxta position of Bishops in doooses
and Priests in parishes. Professionalism is lost ii
there is Episcopal or priestly jurisdiction CO.
operative with their own; though it depends upon