The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-10-04

Mr. ATCHIS0N. would state this, Ia addition 70 what
has been said by the senator from Iowa. that when the
treaty is made. il the purchase is too great II high
price given for the land. il will still be under the
troll OF the Senate-ior the treaty be rejected The
executive only ask for $4,000 TO deay the expenses oil
holding treaty and perhaps OF making small donations
by way of presents Otherwise TO these Sioux Indians
to enable them 70 make treaty upon better ,sT%s than
they would do without an appropriation OF this kind
Mr.. PEARcE have discovered that there was no
amendment made in regard to that matter There was an
item 70 the bill which the COMMITTEES PROPOSED by way q
amendment, TO strike out The Senate did not strike II
out, and would, therefore, require an Affirmative motion
will make that mbtion when we have acted upon the
The PRESIDENT. The only amendment remaining
is that excepted by the senator from Virginia, made In
Mr.. PEARCE. find from the record which the
Secretary has kept, that the amendment OF the COM
mittee Is marked as agreed TO, think that is an
stands now as agreed to- and II that be correct
and any one chooses to move to he can do
mr.. ATCHISON. II that be the record. / must move
to correct the j0urnaor that cannot be the fact have
doubt that il is mistake, from the recollection OF all
that lake any pssss in The matter matt !, i,
that the amendment is agreed to-
Mr. WALKER That is incorrect; for went to the
delegate who was sitting behind me- and congratulated
him upon the fact that the Senate, in committee OF the
whole had rejected the amendment proposed BY the COM
mttee.
| Mr.. PEARCE, Il is undoubtedly wrong.
Mr.. DICKINSON. The statement Of the senator from
Wisconsin only proves that he congratulated the delegate
The record s probably wrong; but makes no difference
Mr. WALKER t iS only spoke ' d the in
connexon with the fact OF the impression upon my mind
that the vote ss was y az ! supposed ,.
The PRESIDENT. The Chair will correct the endorse
mdnt and the motion be made TO strike out the item
in the Senate The question first in order is upon con-
currence with the amendment reserved by the senator
The amendment relative to the Pottawatome Indians
was then read and concurred in.
/ SIOUX INDIANS MINNESOTA.
| Mr.. PEARCE renewed the following amendment
"stke all after line 7sl the end Of the bill as fol.
For expenses Of treating with the Mississippi and 8.
Minnesota Territory, fifteen thousand dollars.
For expenses Of treating with the Indians and half
Minnesota Territory, ten thousand dollars
! Mr. JONES' The proposition is not to purchase $4,000
square niles 1t is left entirely to the control OF the COM
mssioners. If they choose 10 make treaty for the
whole country it is in our power reject it il we think
/ it is too much Gentlemen speak OF being economical
II just much make treaty for $4,000 acres
tory Of Iowa. we had something ike half dozen rea
ties II single treaty had been made to purchase all
the land at one time great deal Of money would have
Nj. PEARcE; We know very well what lands they
will extngush the title To-. We have the instructions oil
the bureau OF Indian Affairs directing the commissioners
who are negotiate these treaties to exnguish the titles
to twenty odd millions Of Of land In what called
the southern section" in my former remarksa tract
up the Red river each side of that river, OF twenty
millions Of acres which will be 900 square miles
Mr. RUSK do hope this will not be stricken out
In the first place. have the representation OF the gov
of the Territory that it is necessary in the next
place. we have the recommendation OF the delegate,
backed by the opinion OF the House OF Representatives.
Then we have the memorial OF the people also. Now
we propose by concuring in what the House has done
simply TO invest the Executive OF the United States with
power make this treaty. if he deems proper and right
If refuse it, shall disregard the request oil the Peo
pie themselves who ask n; we shall disregard their
constituted authorities And then II is rejecting upon
the discretion Of the President OF the United States to
fuse to place at his disposition amount OF money which
he may if he deems il necessary TO make this treaty
Mr. DAVIS, of Mississippi. We ought TO ask our.
selves where these Indians would be removed to if they
removed from these lands. They now extend 10
the Red river, the norih-o Lord Sekirks settlement
the country which have reason to believe would be
assigned TO them and is not al all suited TO their wants
There is no pressing population in this country which re.
quires that the Indian titles should be extnguished at
once; and why we should place al the
discretion OF the President treaty which we have right
to reject from the beginning and have not determined %
accept II is strange proposition that reflect upon
the discretion OF the President because we do not wish
him to form this treaty. We have right TO decide
authority to the President nothing more nor less than
directing him make the treaty. do not wish the
treaty made al all Let the Indians alone until Mnneso-
Ia shall be in need of this territory The Indians are be-
coming civilized the settlers extend beyond them
have Away. doubted the policy Of crowdng great
Der of Indian tribes upon single territory They have
their hereditary feuds and causes OF quarrel with other
tribes with which they will be brought into juxiaposon
in the territory, doubted the policy at The time i iIs
commenced My lnUTcOuIse Win lne uPon tuc
frontiers has since led me TO doubt Il still more strongly
believe that we now following out policy which
will result in evil than good
Mr.. JONES In order 10 obvate objections as TO the
quantity of land. will modify the amendment by insert
ing after the word fifteen in the first clause, and
sien' in the second the words such portion OF said
country as the President Of the United States may deem
Mr.. ATCHISoN. II strikes me this modification is
/ wholly unnecessary.
Mr. JONES. I made it in order to satisfy the chair
man OF the committee. ], however, will withdraw u.
The question being taken the amendment. 1t was re-
| jected--yeas 90 nays 23--as follows;
| YEAS-Messrs. Baldwin, Barnwel, Bell Berrien, But
ler Davis Of Mississippi Dawson Dayton, Dickinson, Hun
ter King Mangu, Mason Morton, Pearce, Pratt Spru-
| duce. Tnrney, Underwood, and Waies-20.
/ NAYS-Messrs. Achison, Badger, Benton Bright, Coop
err Dodge of Wisconsin, Dodge OF lows, Downs, Ewing
Felch Foote, Fremont Gyvin, Haailin, Jones, Norris
Rusk Sebastian, Seward, Smith, Sturgeon, Walker and
Winthrop-S
Mr. PEARCE moved TO amend the section before the
last by Inserting, after Minnesota Territory, the words
I" south Of st Peters river"
Mr. p said This would involve the government IN
less expense and leave time TO provide Tor agents
in the couniry-at the time giving scope Tor inn
mense emigration to that country.
| The amendment was agreed 10.
/ DAVID TAYLOR.
| Mr. BELL offered the following amendment ad.
dional section:
"sEc Had be IL s,arfed That the Secretary Of the
Treasury be paid David Taylor the legal rep
reenatlve his wife and children due them
reservation OF land which they entitled under
previous treaty according The settlement OF the claim Tor
the made by the Second Auditor OF the Treasury
pursuant to an opinion o. The Attorney General OF the uni