New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1850-08-14
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

lest both arms in the service, and after few words
from MesHs. McLANE and THOMPSON Of Miss. the
bill was passed
Mr. BATLT moved that the House resolve itself
into Committee Of the Whole on the State of tn
Union, which was disagreed 10, y cas- 90, Nays s..
Mr.. JONES from the Committee on Rules offered
an amendment 10 them which he thus explained: we
are all aware that under the rules, FIVE minutes are
allowed for explanation 10 a member Offering an
amendment; after that the debate has been closed
and some Of the most business like and beneficial
action has taken place under It but we have aso
seen that the rule has been abused by the trans
fer Of the amendment. Ii was originally intended
to give the mover Of an amendment particularly on
appropriation bills an opportunity to explain IT,
This amendment from the Committee proposed to
extend this right to any other member 10 reply;
then no further debate is TO take place on IT,
The same rule ia TO be extended 20 amendments.
Then the Committee shall vote, and the mover
shall not be permitted to Withdraw without the
unanimous consent Of the Committee. He moved
the previous question.
Mr.. THOMPSON OF Miss. hoped the gentleman
would withdraw the motion.
Mr.. JoNEs withdrew it to say, that the Report
was from the Committee on Rules, and was offered
for the purpose of facilitating the business of the
House. They had instructed him to move the
previous question.
Mr.. THOMSON Of Miss. moved to lay the Report
on the table.
Mr. ISoE wanted to record his vote against it,
and asked for the Yeas and Nays, which were taken
and the Report wa, not laid on the table-5O
to 1870.
Mr. BAYLY moved the House go into Committee
OF the w hole on the State Of the Union.
Messrs THOMPSON Of Miss. and HOLMES a. the
same time asked for the Yeas and Nays They
were taken, and the question decided in the mega
tive-66 to III.
MIR. JoSEss report still pending,
Mr.. DANIEL moved that there be a call Of the
House, which was determined in the negative by
Yeas 80, Nays l43.
Mr.. HOLMES moved that the House al journ.
Mr.. McLANE asked Mr.. Jones 70 withdraw the
demand for the previous question.
Cries OF No, no"
Mr.. JoSEs said he had no feeling in the matter ;
if the House were disposed to debate, he would
withdraw the motion
Mr.. INGE-l object 10 explanations.
MIR. MCLAEE-l call for the business on the
Speakers table, the morning hour having expired.
The SPEAKER-lt has commenced, but not ex
pred.
Mr.. McLANE said there was no power to prevent
members from offering and renewing amendments
at any point. The report does not abridge the
time on the contrary, it enlarges it, giving ten
minutes instead of five.
Mr. CLIEGMAY believed that the morning hour
bad expired, and ash ed the gentleman to give way
for motion to go into Committee Of the Whole.
ness, it will never come up again.
Mr. CLINGMAN-Will it not come up when Com.
mittees are sgain called upon for reports
The SPEAKER replied in his opinion, if a motion
be made to refer the Report to Committee Of the
Whole, on the State of the l MON, /. would come
up as the first morning business
Mr.. NGE-I wish to know if the morning hour
has expired.
SPEAKER-NOt yet
Mr.. hcLASE made further remarks
Mr.. INGE-Do understand that the morning hour
has expired. 1t ia so stated. Mr.. INGE moved that
the House take up business on the Speakers table.
Not agreed to.
Mr.. McLAEE was proceeding with his remarks,
when DIR. CARTIER rose to aqueston OF order, that
the gentleman had gotten through with what he
had to say.
sPEAKER-The gentleman from Ohio is out of
order
Mr.. CARTrER-My point of order is this, the gen .
man il occupy ing the floor without having anything
to say.
The SPEAKER raped brisky call to order.
Mr.. BAYLY rose TO make an appeal 70 go into
Committee OF the Whole, the debate on the Civil
and Diplomatic bill is 10 cease on Friday
Mr. McCLERNAND asked whether the remarks Of
the gentleman from Virgini, were in order.
The SPEAKER replied in the negative.
The House refused to go into Committee, 70 to
1903.
Mr. McLANE resumed his remarks to show that
the report does not answer the purpose Of prevent
ing the abuse Of the five minute rule.
Mr.. ISCE rose TO address the House, and several
gentlemen objected to Mr. McLane's Transferring
the floor to him
Mir. CARTIER rose to question OF order. Dir.
McLane, he said was occupying time ia king The
matter over again. He wanted no bargains.
Mr.. NcLASE was understood az saying Mr.. Cart
ters remark was false
The SPEAKER, amid much confusion, called to
order.
Mr.. McLASE explained He had merely given
way thinking Mr. Inge wanted TO ask him ques'
ton, and he moved 10 refer the report back 70 the
Committee on Rules with instructions TO rePortthe
mode and means Of enjoying the five minute rule,
according to strict Parliamentary law.
kr lsGE concured in the views expressed by
Mr. Mel ane. The report does not accomplish the
object avowed. Its object was to gag the minority
and compel them TO uomit 70 IN curious un ust and
hasty legislation, and Il was matter OF surprise
to him that the gentleman from Tennessee, Mr..
Jones should make himself an instrument 10 bring
the proposition forward. He did not question the
right Of the gentleman to introduce the report, but
the gentleman would find few from the South who
have al identity Of Interest with him. Two mem
hers OF the Committee on Rules, Messrs Stephens
and kaufman, were absent bat he yentured the
assertion that neither OF them assented to the
proposition. The proposition was offensive be-
cause 1t accomplishes nothing and its object Is H.
sulting in its character. 1t restricts debates to
two members What right has the House 70 dotns
to the exclusion Of 229 othermembers ltinvoiVess
mostodious discrimination. 0ne OBJ ect is paramount
If We submit to one precedent Of amendment no~
can the South protect itself The whole PaHoraI
Of protection will be swept away thus tSen ,L
ment be allowed, others will follow, and !ne oyHsI
will have 10 power Of resistance we are .s 49,
by a ruthless aggressive majority, VINO are ae'e..
mined 10 carry out the measures which they know
Mhent we Of ne South oppose We cannos los