Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1850-10-25
STATE REFORM CONIENfI0\.

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""'''is was 'ir unfinished business 81. yr:.rsv. yr Ii;
49," '"''on :" The p'ding amenJmen. 10 tic Enl
''',Ns !" HE "Pr".iaus question" e.
Vi i"rkiv, At T. rad m The II ,.; praoo.,i,,o vl i,
~ i'"s'd "er 10 tir House in !n oi The on, uf.
I" ~ ~" li', II iiia amendment "tr' yord down.
MF. MtstoE cAHs.Tl moved . reconsideration "i III.
~ 'lc''hS a amendment oi.r,d hy The nieat, "u
A'f Chnti-E asked whether world b. in olcr l., a,r
taarr,!menis ~ $500 ~ " ''''
lhr 'nt'r replied iat if this were done ,hr uls.:un
"'a carry The whole report aon with il: .n tha; he ,uq
:, ne h'cillcr did not desire.
af 'ELE said HI desired to have no other rule unon
W Previous question than That prnyi led i,r hy i, plI,.
hIc'hlv il' rs defined in Jccrso' Mn,.l and cont
P'.,a ny i'ir Sixth rule already adopted
hr WATTS of n. could not see ,.,p ground upon wi,
~ Imagined that debate would h. .fi.c hy the = lr
i' was '.l tc lengthy debate would nrccsL. occur
I III "'nitire oi The whole when there could IL no
' ~" the p'cto':S Incst.un. r,,an. .o5 ayes an!
ms l ami no r.,nnsidraions In lsiI III. Convention
i h'' require The application Gf The pr,ol: QUESTION Ia.
cause all the great questions difference w,r lrtat,, ty
sa,' oi eight members alone; but aid Mr.. " il we e.; II
Juit nom the signs of the times il viii be wIi ,re,
now and ii nay become necessary when the cni,'m,, -
ti' "oc rises Ia report 10 The House. apply the pre,ios
question - cnrta unreasonable latitude u d,ara in III,
.lns' !e amendment n 'ic mani1cr from Washington
| III NJ oplnon was too ambiguous in plras,vloay
MT P.icE was III FAVOR Of the notion OF The member from
isarbo' This rule would pu the minority on The hoor i'm
| The hands ol tyrannical majority.
:, Mr h"whEN was opposed To any "previous question:
IL would ii proper time 0ilcr Amendment that
bet wy were tfeiucatv referred 10 The example of Con-
ess ana lis rule lie thought Congress the most disor.
Derry body which hc had Ind tralspirrd
there WIN h were more violent in their character than any
which had ever been witnessed any election ground
IN any other body o; public disorder He thought The lar
Scst range oi debate should BIZ allowed.
W. NooLfolN hope! thai the member from Bath would
pay mat Difference 10 the minoritys yews when another
qlc, lion came un!cr consideration
,It
county of Bath
alr WooLfcLI begged parion-Crecnbrer then. 1t had
Dc. SAID in there vas previous question in the Con-
Scnion oe l-;U True there was not; bnt th convention
was composed .! men who sricm spoke when they
ha something 10 ~; and then hcy said in 4 plin con
riss ana able manner Such he thought could hardly be
sa OF the present convention after the experience OF the
ist lew days Every man here seemed to have
thing TO say; unless they plain farmers who had spo-
nrn =; honr when They had their speeches regularly
coricd when they could cngenler them in ,cir head be-
fore delivery He hoped when the West got the majority,
uhd could pi lis ands into pockets AMI what they
wanted, that the Difference 10 the rights Of the minority
Would not be forgotten then Tie East could stop the
'9ey ihen, but might stop useless debate now.
Mr. Pace hoped tia; all wod b. heard aad fully heard
TOO it was Tor letting the embrr from Orangr have all
lin range ol the debate he wished H. willing 10 obi
2ai" himself Ia cunsnc more tine than the member from
Orange.
Nj. WoolroLX. Agreed. Bargain.
Mr. Blows OF r., did !r-ilnd that The minority
Ibis iloor desired 10 control llr naiorty. III ta minority
aske. was that :cy nigh; be fairly heard before they were
voted down
Mr.. prGx..s thought this debate Ind gone FIR enough
and 40 H. dcnin. the previous question.
The miin question WA ordered.
Tile lol'e rejected lc motion Of Mr. GiRSErr 10 recon-
.cf The vote rejecting the amendment of the member from
Norfolk
Mr. H. D,vls did mn think that was treating the
suency whom members represented, with proper cons!e
a:oa 10 bc restricting dbae by the application " ts
viou. question; e would send 10 The Chair certain arEd
nentS when he proposed 10 offer
ihr CnhIR remarked that the amendments were not
now in order.
Mr.. SrAS should for The amendment, though he
was o satisfied with it. lie thought they ad better have.
sonle previous question than none at all.
MIR. GoopE, before the TAKEN desired 10 say a
Word Ii had been said 10y members from certain localities
that this rule was 10 operate gag law upon them and
Vet when proposition much miilrr in and restriction
had been offered by Eastern member had been voted
down He only desired call attention 10 these things,
a il the previous question shall hereafter he enforced.
Eastern members mag be charged with its rof "i app!i-
cation
Mr. Iorslxs of W. in answer TO the member from Acchen
burg would say that whenever the operation oi The previous
ii s'n should preclude his constituents from beng hoiid
here he should return home Ia Ihea, believing that their
wishes wGul be best consulted by doing Mr. H. con
tended hat his nmcnr did not produce greate hardship
H. operation than other amendment, which hal been oil
red aud that the previous question would receive many
| votes !.om tn; Wcst as the East.
lir. FrGdu had used the "ga9 law yesterday
if diseamod any purpose Of tnputin9 either 10 tile East
the Hcs purpose o this kind H. should not speak
East and West unt h. forced ~ 10 and until the
proper time
The upon the insertion Of ,' amendment proposed
BY hr member from Washington being taken bs ayes and
noes, the House refused 10 insert ayes H. noes 81.
Mr.. nr4.Ns nf l.. offered amendment to fill the blank
r. Sarn Of y. demanded le previous question on The
amendment
lr. CAnLLr demanded thea anil noes upon ht order
an nt i:is previous question.
Nj T,ylnn rose 10 poin, of orIcr. II This: that
ae amendment Of The member from powha:an was ioni:
rai!y The same in substance, though olrcn in irn, Win
that ni The member from Washington Just rejected.
The Cu.IR decided III, amendment Ia hc in or''cr. The
question oi how FIR the House consistent in is action
.;as With ,in House anl MT with the Chair.
Tue cell for the ayes aE was sustained, wien tie
previous u,c. ton was or,,.rrd--aye 81, noes %
The question then recurring the ado oa Of III" amend
ncnt. Mr. LErcnEn !erai, ED the ayes ani noes, mlc
ordered, and the amendment @as rejected by lite loiow
ing vote:
AvEs-sIcssrs Finney, Arthur Il. Smith, Ridley, Cham
bliss burgess Cog Wallace iy9s Jones l.y"H. MGsIo'
Trcdwav Worsiiam Shell, Henry l.. Hopkins, Lynch ar
.hur Barbour, Banks, Voolfolk, kenncy, Newman, Lion
| Jr:gcr-2S
Nors--sIcssrs John y Mason, Nres;dcn,> samur
| Watts, Pt:y, Taylor, Tuns, Robert g. Scott M"Fe.!i
Bolts, S'anai nlyis, Bow1,n James Sni,h Nuscos III
aett, Brayon Douglas, Sisau2ha, Monrnrr Ira Williams
William Martin, Archibald Stuart, fl'ninds Mh'iin
Chamber pnins, Dncuck. Flood T!rnbull Scog., I'M
Frqa Wineiich Garland, Souhal, Randolph, Lyon :,
Leak" Bowrs Cooke, Johr 4. Carter, Janny f"oerl ).
Scott $trothrr Chiffon Miller Anderson, Mi'Ian " ut
Tfc.icf Moore, Shelby. Stephenson, Jr, rm'1 Den,-
5anreIs Seymour Cook, Faulkner i:nraS M"p'y; llnn
ter James T.. Stewart, sloan, Ey blie 1e, 80" 'u u
tin jacob note G.lly, Johnson, SnosE'a ,,hnen .,
Winkc Hrnwp Armstrong. Wiley Nceson, Hays, Joseph
Smitl to;le Bland Mrt omaS, Fi>irr Ferguson, sum
| mcrs Prize William Smith, Benjamin II. smith, liose
ijccaman, WISER Chapna, Capc:.on Pcndietrn, Floyd
lieorae W. Hopkins Tate, Fulkrrson, kgore, Dale Gar
| trr-9i.
Mr. novpE. moved to ill the blank with the following
sTne previous question shall be wholly dispensed with
Iii. WATT offered competing proposition ae! warn
withdrawn allow direct vote on that proposed " ar
| inwicu.
| Mr. C,iipE.: demanded The and noes. They were
ordered and The amendment was rejected by The following
| vote :,
Avs Messr Riycs r. &. Scott, Bolts, Bowten Mon
cure Edwards Ira Williams, Archibald Sin.rt, Mhtr
Purkins H. L. Hopkins, ,Wins:eld, Randolph Voolfolk, J.
Carter Anderson Wm VISITS IcIchcr Sheity Stephenson
H. fu!,z Dencalc Lionhcfger, Faulkner Lucas Murphy
Jas T. Stewart ElGe, Jefferson I. Marlin, jacob hnotc
iallv Johnson, Camden, Van Winke Efown, Armstrong
Wiley, Neeson, Hays, Joseph Smith Cailiie' E.ni, a
Coalas Fisher Ferguson, Summers, Price, "n smith, u
H. Smith fiagr aI:Camanf, Chapman. Cupertni, fehue
on Floyd, c. W. Hopkins, Tate Fulkeis"n, hiisofe ai'
/ n. t.arer-Gl. -,
Nncs-Messrs Mason CpfesiIcnr,) Finney, Saml Waits
Petty, \. K. Smith, Taylor Tun!s Ridley burgess IoA
Wullice. Jones. Meredith Lyons Stanard DAVIS Musco
r. r. G,rneti, Muscoe iaTnctt. lfaAton p"u$as AoTrI
l.eac Srraughan Hall Snawden WA. Mltiin lredway hu
nlanis Cioo.e Chambers, Bacock, WoFshain food She
Tu.nhu Scoe.in Hin, Fuqua, Lynch, irthur G:ilan'
Sou,lall L.on. Lake Bowles Cock, Barbour ninK'
Janney Robert l.. Scott Srnhcr Chiffon Miller Moore
Kenney, Newman Sanuls. Seymour COOK, iiunt'r Bye
and Wysor-Gi ,
Mr. warts of ~ then offered To fill the blank with tn
following:
II pon call for the previous question no member sin
,,, moro than len minutes unless such call be secDnde