New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1850-10-03
NETWORK TRIBUNE.
THE CHIEF ENGINEERS REPORT.


sestqation Of the cha, ges oga't certain officers made i"
the late Report Of Alfred Carson, Chief Engineer o.
The Five Department Of Net0- York.
SECOND DAY
On the meeting of the CommitteeE last night
the question of Limitation was brought up. Aid
Wood required that charger against particular
members of the Common Council be taken up.
Mr. Clark proposed to oontinae proof 90 TO Bel
Ringers,
Thomas Mcgson called.
AID Wood asked what was TO be proved by the
witness.
MIR. CLARK stated that he proposed to prove sud-
den changes, removals, protracted vacancies, and
the detail Of inefficient and inexperienced police
men continually sranspiriDg at the bell towers.
Aid. Wood though this related 10 the System
and could not be admitted The invesslg alton
must be confined to specific charges against GER
tain persons.
Mr.. Mills stated that he thought it was prope'
for the Committee to hear any evidence which MIR.
Carson might offer to substantiate his report
Aid. Wood replied that the Committee was only
to investigate the direct charges against Members
of the Common Council, the Courts, &c.
Mr.. Hope aaid that it was we'll understood that
Mr. Carson might adduce any evidence he pleased
to sustain the allegations of his report, and further
that the proof offered does relate to the charges
against some public officers, as the evils COM
planned of must be owing to aome misconduct or
neglect on the part Of the appointing power
Mr.. Mills desired to know whether Mr. Carson
is to be permitted to prove the truth OF the whole
report or not if he is not permitted, Mr.. Mills
aays he must stop here.
MIR. Hope asked Mr.. Carson whether no oonsid'
cred the charges made against the belEringers as
relating to abe system or TO members.
MIR. Carson replied that he considered them aS
relating to the system and also to the appointing
power.
Much discus.ion continued in regard to the mode
OF proceeding.
Mr. Brady read the following, as the Decision OF
the Committee on the part Of the Common Coun-
Gil as to the Course of the Inyestig alton:
nYhe Committee fthe Comm CeuLcl which vas ap,
pointed to nvesugae tain charged contained In the a
smbe ana resolutions om whch they derive her au'h9T
w. lhey ave post full and horous examination OF Gil
me or chgs agmaa e9 ne n
IL, mUefs of the ComInon Council which, II Tue ne par,
lie charged deserve the csSue Of !nel fs"M rom
which they derive their powers they have no au.oor
y to I I@o s Tssns GT n Fire Baen s
IL not udiclous, II no charge IN reianon 10 IL oe
made In ,he Report of lte Chief Engineer, which
10 invesigate Aud further he! The Committee invite me
mos latitude OF proof in regard TO The acs OF any one Oh
The officials 10 Ia The preamble which preceles me
resolution for their sppoin mem, which shows ha' ehe OF
those Ocs has been gully Of any e act Ia Dis paOc esps
according The sateu ents Of chArgean he last oil
the pteept Chief Engineer would subject hlm 10 lhe CEN
tufe Of bis fellow oizensh
Mr.. Clark proposed to proceed with the Wit
nesses, giving the opposite party liberty to object
to the ueators he might esk,
Mr.. Carson went into the ball TO cal witness,
ard in the meantime Dir. CLARK was engaged IN
the pre paration Of document. Before no had con-
Guided the paper, Mr.. Lscour on behalf OF the
Committee OF the Fire Department. read the fol-
lowing decision which the Committee had signed
aud aske the Committee on she part oithe Board
of Aldermen to copy into their official minutes Of the
proceedings
Tbe Committee appointed by The Representatives Of The
Fe Department holding that Tue oleci OF oef sppoint
emf wss me purpose OF examining into me run OF 81
N. entv and charges contained in thu report of Inc
Chief Engineer aud III derstsnong clearly hs at The pIei
minsIy meeting OF this committee Win lns' ~
me R6ard OF Aldermen, II uudereiood ana oehnl!ey
agreed thai Mr. Cason shou BE at ibery 10 produce aoJ
pToofhe might de.irs for me parPose o S I
the allegations that here have been suoden ca ngef
removals, protracied vacancies ana Inc desau Oh
Incapable and mex peienced policemen bell rnsers
spec6c charges sgainsi she party or parties bJ
whom uch chabges, novals, vacancies aud appoal'
menis hhve been made OF csuaedi and wheTeai the
Committee Of the Board OF Aldermen object 10 re-
ceiyng proof Of any general charges or statemsass,
aud although having decided 10 hear npecihc charges
agtni, either individuals OF the Board or against The
Board Unfortunately YET object 10 slow proof OF ms
charges OF The chapgre vaceDcea" &c 10 the bell ring
iug department Therefore, the Committee OF hs Fire
Department withdraw from fnrhe ieve'tgattoa, snd re.
fuse longer to act in the matter, holdaE that The courte
determined upon ny Inc COMMITTEES OF The Board OF Alder
men 10 decidedly unjust ard llioers towG1d M Carsoo
snd not calculated 20 aeVe op the it9h o. he mater
GEO HOPE,
Nttv, York Oct g. 1850 JOHN T. LACOUR.
The Committee on behalf of the Common Coan
Gil re sd further in deci,ion as follows
we public 10 require that Mr. CarEon proceed TO idna e
the testimony in his power show Off sl mi lcooducs on
The part OF sy perIop body ered to In h' re-
pof Hno CHER bin every facility which he may Tequelt
pr cure huoh testimony Phe, also reoueat hu psr
tonsy examined 10 tho truth OF RuY charges contained
IN hs report sneclpg The conduct Of any puolc ohcsr or
PREY Of conduct FOR which hsy would or could deserve
the censure or heir fello w.citizsrs"
MIR. Mills asked il the Committee OF the Conmon
Council would admit the testimony offered this
evening
AID. Wood replied that they would not
Mr.. CLARK then read bis answer in behalf of the
Chief Engineer, which was in tbs following words:
,'The Chief Engineer has coma before the Committee
this eveLirg with esmony TO ptovs the tu ohs charges
contained bis report olave TO The sudde changes
royks prortced vacancies aud The deaii OF ncspablo
ard inexperienced policemen which CONTINUALLY bfA1sple
at the Bel Yowers aud which wAs most feftousy against
Bell bnpts wss Al Inc preliminary InsetBg of The Com
lnee directed TO be made The 6!s snolsci OF inquiry sad