North Carolina standard. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1850-1852, 1850-12-07


was not in favor Of sending bills TO committees MT.
Caldwell went on say that it was time for the
friends of the white basis TO move; he was not one
who would submit. He was going on to speak OF
the distribution ofthe school fund, when the Speak
er interrupted him for abiding subject irrelevant
to the matter under consideration.
Mr. Leach of Davidson, wished to state one rea-
son why he should vote against the reference OF this
bill, and she should vote out of no disresPect
whatever to the committee. He did not view TINS
subject as party question, but rather as sectional
one and did not fear any party manoeuvre to strange
it. But he should vote against the reference because
the committee had already partly settled upon tneir
report, and he did not wish to impede their action
with new matter. = = =
Mr. Rayner should vote against the reference, not
of any dfsrespect TO the committee, but because
committee on it. Committees were appointed to ar
range and digest business, but this question the
public mind was already made up. He was bouno
to against the reference, for two years ago. "e
subject was sent to committee, and there delayed
so long that no time allowed for the action OF
the two Houses. If he was member of the com
mtee, he should thank the House for relieving MIN
of this business. The committee entertained vafi-
sentiments this question, and so CID the incur
bers of the House. There was possible way 10
harmonic public sentiment. He preferred to man
age his own business, and in the case OF MS own
bill, did desire the action ola comml tee upon II.
He repeated again. he intended disresPect to thai
committee.
Mr.. Avery remarked that some of the reasons adj
duced by the gentleman from HEREFORD, Mr. Rayner)
against reference, were good reasons for H. IL every
gentleman is to have his own bill here, and Promul-
gate his own views the business of the Legislature
would never terminate. The same rule appiieo +"
this as to every other committee, and everything re-
lating to the subject with the consideration OF which
they were charged, should be sent to theui he gave
notice now that when this bill was disposed OF, ne
should call up, as had intended 10 do, the o OF
the gentleman from HEREFORD, and also, the bill OF
the gentleman from Haywood, in order to have them
fhic A q
proper subjects for their consideration. When tney
made their report, the subject would come up again.
1t was an unusual and unparamentry course TO nave
committee, and then refuse to send the business 10
it properly falling under its consideration 1t was
both proper and customary dispose OF business IN
this way and it calculated to expedite the trans
action of business.
Mr. Rayner said his experience different from
that of the gentleman from Burke, Mr. Avery.] He
thought the proper way to make all these bills the
special order for certain day. All OF them could be
taken up on one day and disposed Of He had intended
to make such notion He had no idea that the report
of the committee would have any influence with the
House, and did believe they could throw any ad-
ditional light upon the subject under consideration.
He wished to test the feeling and views of the House;
he wanted to try tho nerves of gentlemen on this
question, and to what they would do. The House
could best dispose of this matter it would be her
cuean task for the committee to consider every pro-
position that any member of the House might choose
refer them, and the best way was for the House
of the committee.
Mr.. Cherry was opposed to any amendment to the
Constitution whatever; he went for the Constitution
just it was he was opposed out and out to all
amendments. He was no free suffrage free soil
He should vote against the reference as he de-
sired direct vote of the House upon it.
Mr.. Foster of Davidson, did not believe the COM
mittee should have any thing do with this bill. He
considered it courtesy due to the mover of bill to
allow it to take such a direction as he wished. He
favor of laying the motion to commit on the table,
Mr.. Brogden was deeply surprised at the language
Of the gentleman from Guilford Mr.. Caldwell.
There of having committees If everything
relating to the various subjects which they were
charged to consider, not referred to them. This
committee had half dozen different propositions al
ready before ;em and it was proper that they should
also have this. He concurred in opinion with the
gentleman from Hartford, Mr.. Rayner.] that the
committee was not sectional one viewed by the
gentleman from Guilford Mr. CALDWELL The COM
mittee composed Of three western and two cas-
tern men. All matters relating to amending the Con-
stuon should be referred to this committee, and he
trusted the House would sustain the motion commit
Mr. Caldwell of Guilford, intended no disrespect
to that committee, to censure the chair for their
appointment. But he that the committee
constituted that its action would not accord with
the views of his constituents, of the freemen of
North Carolina. II was true majority of that
mttee were western men, but they were in favor of
retaining the federal basis of representation and there
fore he was opposed to referring to them bill to
which he knew they were hostile. He repeated thai
he intended nothing disrespectful to the committee.
Mr.. Rayner inquired of the gentleman from Sur
ry MIR. Mclean whether the committee not
already charged with the consideration of all these
questions
Mr.. Mclean said that the committee had been in
stucted to inquire into the expediency of submitting
the question of g Convention " Convention -
to the people just the bill proposed to do. and he
surprised that time had been given the COM
mttee report upon it. This bill seemed designed
to foresta the action of the committee; he did not
understand why the committee should have been
bill introduced without waiting for their action.
Mr.. Rayner renewed his inquiry, whether the COM
mitee had not been charged with the whole subject
Mr.. Mclean went on to remark that it was strange
that before this committee reports bill should be
introduced foresall its action. He could not con-
ceive why it should be so there must be some rea-
not yet made known, why the friends of this bill
objected to its reference The reason might be that
the committee would not make report suit them. |
He had not supposed that much importance was
attached to the report of the committee. He only
asked that this committee should be treated with the
same respect other committees, and that all matters
with this subject should be referred to them
He disposed to give every thing that sent to
them full consideration. and report such bill as
he thought proper.
Mr.. Fleming thought the committee assumed au-
thority not delegated to them. The committee was |
appointed to consider amendments to the Constitu-
tion this bill proposed amendment, but merely !
to submit the question to the people whether they
would have Convention not. 1t was entire
ly different question. The advocates of the bill |
ought not permit il to go to the committee. Bills
were frequently strangled in committee, and he antic
ipated such action on this bill.
Mr.. Blow said that the remarks of the gentleman
from Guilford had convinced him that he was wrong
He said he knew that the committee were in favor