The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-09-14


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for that class OF people, South Carolina will pat them
defiance. She will never given up. 1st
do not think this complaining so bitterly Of the man
ings, REGARDED. comes with very good grace from
Massachusetts How does one of their grave, reverend
writer's say That negro children regarded theref
NEGRO d children S Were reeEoaed an inoumSrsnce a Z
iamy aha wnen weaned, given away like puppies.
and have been repeatedly advertised be given away
puppies" t5 lg5 8 Y4s
/ Mr.. WINTHROP. How many years ago was that
Mr. BUILER In 1871, ! believe. lRsnewsd laugh
Mr. WINTHROP, lin hi. seat, All, r.et
Now sir, have great respect for that gentenans an.
believe he is bit better than his ancestors who landed
MI. WINTHROP Allow me to correct matter Of
history. My ancestors never landed upon Plymouth
Rock They came over about ten years afterwards.
Mr. BUTLER only wanted to show how negro
children regarded there Now, sr in what have
said in reference TO the senator from Massachusetts,
have had no feelings against him have only sssailed
his witness--his man--what is his name i---Ranln
yard has since given me hs clue 70 lie % conduct
this Mr. Ranu He says he has doubt that be took
The negroes and went into Charleston for salvages has
finding tina! il he took the negroes out. they might d-
vide il with him. he left them there and took all hin
self. lContnued laughter.l msta
Mr.; WINTHROP In reply to what the senator has
hes to his being gentleman captain Of high respecta
bility and excellence. He now commands his own ship
behalf only hope that he will not be gone before hs
has opportunity to explain himself here. It44l
M M BuMTLER M In his scatl hope %, too.
ate buta moment with what have to say. seems to
me this debate which has sprung up colateray TO the
main subject, has been charactezed in some parts Of
with degree of hardness which is entirely uncalled
for Imus say that do not think it very unreasona.
proposition the part OF Massachusetts, to ask for
rather humble request to ask little more light RI.
specting the constutionaity OF certain law must
De permitted to say sir that this right does not the
anything contained any State constitution but is
right secured II secured at ALL by the constitution Of the
United States, and BY that instrument alone. II it has
foundation there, il has foundation anywhere and
it is simply trial OF that right before the tribunal pre-
scrbed by the constitution that the State OF Massachu.
in this Chamber on % former % occasion os Il follows =
matter OF course that the right is in way dependent
upon State constitutions, and that is way dependent
upon the emigration laws OF Louisiana is in no way
dependent upon any other police laws which exist and
those police regulations interfere with the constitution OF
the United States, then they are unlawful That is the
Now concur with my colleague, and sat here with
some surprise when that there any doubt re-
manner of doubt on that question none whatever, sir,
aboat this matter The State OF Massachusetts did not
proceed the she took without the evidence before
her, to satisfy her upon thus point She had evidences
which satisfied her legislature and evidence which fatis
fled The other branch OF the government that complaints
OF this description were welounded, and she took meas
ures accordingly. She sent to Charleston agent
think the honorable senator from South Carolina MIR.
BuTLERl and can discuss this matter without any par.
South Carolina are high minded and honorable and
what did they doi They did not deny the exlstenceof
the fact He laid before the government the purpo OF
bis enand and stated what was The governor did not
deny the existence of such law; he did not deny that
there prison there, that persons were imprisoned
in it, but he laid this subject before the legislature Of the
ND fhn laUtGl In
decision of this question by the judicial tribunal Now.
sir, if there had been foundation for this as soma
plain answer TO all this. This agent might have been
told, You have come here upon errand that has no
foundation; you have no cause OF complaint We do
no such thing Yon may go into courts you can find
case go upon" They took such that, hut
neposed obstacles tantamouIt 10 an admission OF the
fact. tE"
However, do moi intend to argue this point with the
honorable from South Carolias, lMr BuTLERl
understand him to admit that they imprisoned to
greater or less extent but he thinks not 80 much as has
The same thing is true in Louisiana The honorable
senator argues from the law that it is impossible that
such difficulty should exist; but the difficulty may exist
without law, and is then still Objectionable But
that It has existence does not, think, admit OF any
question whatever
Mr SoULE, (inierposing) deny il most positively
MIR. DAVIS, Of Massachusetts. | perceive that the
honorable gentleman draws a conclusion, hich conclu
sion is tanamount 10 denial But, then, he must ad
mit upon the law which he reads here that after per-
Of this description has been thirty days there, he Is
subject 10 this confinement He must ad that the
terms OF the law which he read il apprehended rightly,
subjected the party TO imprisonment after thirty days
Now will not enter into any controversy with the hon
oabe senator from LOUISIANA Mr. SouLE1 beyond this
have not time 10 look into the laws of Louisiana but
think shall have the opportunity to do IT. and think
shall be able show in which persons have been
imprisoned in louisiana, and that has not been done
without som authority Of law. That IL has been DONE
think, admits of no question at all. Proof ia most
ample and complete upon the subject II was n posses
sion OF the government of Massachusetts at the time
those measures were taken 10 send an agent there.
What done in louisiana Why, the same thing as
in South Carolina The governor OF Louisiana did not
say the agent OF Massachusetts,, This is inbound
here and settle any such controversy for there
no foundation for any such controversy Your citizens
have not been imprisoned" That would have been full
aud complete answer. No such answer made. On
the contrary the subject communicated TO the legis
lalure OF the State for their consideration think viii
turn out not that the from Louisiana has made
any intentional mistake here, error, but that there
some authority upon this subject which has Deen oser-
looked, some existing practice in relation TO Inat
the seanen sailing from the northern states 70 new VI
leans have been imprisoned does not admit OF any doubt
or question whatever. Well Mr. President, dismiss
the subject do not wish TO deian the Senate IN regard
TO Ii.
ment This amendment is presented nj a moment
and under circumstances which regret am sorry
that the honorable senator from New York IMr
SEwlRpl thought 10 be his duty TO ask the attention of
The Senate upon the subject Not that have any diff.
here have difficulty in my own mind with regard
to the authority power ofCongress upon the subject OF
negro slavery in this District have difficulty 10 my
own mind in finding constitutional mower and authority