The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1850-07-07
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The Paine Gas.
THE PRESIDENTS or the NEW YORK AND MANHATTAN
GErrLrmEN: Al the request Of Mr. Green, the agent
OF MIR Pedrick and apreeably to your Instructions,
have exsmr ed las far as permitted 40 to do) the
apparatus of Mr. Paine at Worcester.
At first interview with Mr. Green in this city, /
told him had faith in Mr. Psue's ability to pro-
duce from water a gas that would he an economical
tuel and that such gas. be IL ever so cheapy made
was Of value source OF light that If Mr. Paine
pass his water gas thr5ugh spirits of turpentne or
Eaphta the light produced was in proportion TO the
quantity Of naptha turpentine consuh-t and that
water-gss, combined with the vapors OF turpentine
could compete with coal-gas. But Mr. Green
said was mistaken. that all that was written in
the books this subject wrong; ne did not &
pect me 10 credit his statements. but If would 60
to Worcester with him, he would convince me that
Mr. Paine had discovered "A NJ ethod OF producing and
carbonizng hydrogen that was sim pie and cheap"
asked b i'm it might invite Drs. Torrey and Chiffon
to go with me. aud il they would be- allowed to
inspect the apparatus. lie said he woald be happy
to have me DO so, and To invite a. many scien.
titc friends as l pleased; that Mr.. Paine would
be present to answer any questions We might de-
sire to ask. and would show every portion of
bis apparatus except the electrodes and the helices
that ~ these contained his secret. could not
them until the companies had purchased the right
TO ue the discovery and that this right should not be
offered 90 any party in New York uutl return But
that might ksow that no deception was pracr g. he
would have the gas ade in presence, allss to
AXE by the apparatus which he would show and
to test 1t in any way pleased then asked him to
name the day, and would invite my friends to meet
him. He named Tuesday, the 25th Of June; / met
Mr. Green again on Monday. and told him that Drs
Chsn and Torrey would go with us, and that we
would meet him that afternoon at the Railroad Sta
tion. lie replied that he had received telegrsphic
communication that morning informing him that Mr.
Paine and MIR Pedrick would both be ia Worcester on
the following morning and that they had everything
ready and were prepared to receive us then sent
communication, by telegraph, to Mr.. Darricctt. the
agent Of the Boston GasLght Company, asking him
and Dir. Blake TO meet us NJ Worcester
On Tuesday, we met at the hotel in worcester and
were introduced TO Mr. Pedrick by Mr. Green, but Mr.
Paine was not present having bees called from the
gsgsment Mr. Pedrick invited us tcivistthe machine
ry Of Mr. Paine at his room in the Worcester Ex.
change Building We did So and there intro
duc.d to younger brother of Mr.. Paine. In the
centre Of this room saw disjointed piece of ma
chiDery said by Mr. Pedrick to be the machine with
which MIR Paine decomposed water Mr.. Pedrick and
end Mr Paine made some explanations respecting the
action of the machine; but from its dis ointed and i'm
perfect state. could form 10 definite idea Of its
mode of operation.
Thence we accompanied Ne ssrs Pedrck and Greeue
TO the dwelling Of Mr. Paine. the brother Of Mr. Paine
having preceded us On arriving at the house
stood on the mantcl Mr. Paine lighted one of the
burners which gave very bright light On smelling
the gas "a passed through the burners when not
lighted. IT had TIE odor Of oil gas. We were then
shown into basement room in the rear of the house
In this room. supported on four bricks, was u box
about two feet square. and ten inches high ead by
Mr Paine 20 contain the magnets two strips of cop
per ad TO be the conductors extended from the box
TO circular tin vessel about two feet high aud about
eight irches in diameter resting the top OF the
and this tin ssel Mr. Paine said the decompOsny
vessel From this vessel a pipe passed through the
wall the door and we wers told connected with
the gas holder pl,csd the outside Of the building
Prom this pipe was branch leading mp to small TIN
cylinder. of the capacisy Of quart measure In this
cylinder Mr Paine said the gas used IN the house was
sarbonized." small plugged opening attached TO
which dropped. and ascci tanned IL 20 be water Ac.
cordiug g. Mr. raine's statement this vessel should
have contained spirits Of turpcntine Another branch
pipe leading from the one connecting the gas holder
vith the dccompOsing vessel turned OF In = con-
trery direction, aud bending dosnward passed
through the cork Of a wide neckcd glass bottle and
dipped into spirits OF turpentiue Another tubs
Injected in the cork with n burner attached TO ito
= ar Paine lighted the gas-it burned with bright
light. having The appearance Of being oil gas" Mr.
Paine and MIR Pedrirk assured US that the gas
hydrucen produced from water by the mtehinr before
and that IL was "carhunized' by being passed
through turpentire alone / asked Mr Pain. % dis
connect the pipe from the bottle of turprntiue and
burn the gss u issued from the gas holder that We
might be cure would not give light before u entered
the turT, ntne Mr. Paine positSey refused To do
aud said his brother had forbidden hts disconnectng
any pipe MIR P.drick asked me what 1t was sus.
pectod and said he had seen the gas burned many n
time both before and after 10 had passed through the
tutp-ntinc, aud knew my suspicious 60 he unjust My
answer was" Before I came herr, was told by your
agent that you would prove TO ny entire satisfaction
and TO the satisfactiou Of the gentleman who would
accompany me that the gas was hydrogen. produced
from water by electricity and that it would not give
light until II bad passed through turpeutne I want
you to prove the fact IL II Is fact that may report
1t as such when return
Mr. Blake asked Mr. Psdfick II he would permit the
pipe to Le drawn through the cork tar enough 60 raise
IL above the surface of the turpenne-stil Mr. Paine
refused Considerable discussion ensued during which
NJ Paine In the room. br Tortry asked Mr Pedrck
n he did not think the refusal OF SIR Paine 10 submit
the gas To this test calculated 20 justify uspicon
lie confessed II was but said they must obey orders
Dir Pedick hen stepped out and called Tor Mr. Paine
After while Mr. Paine feeppesfcd conversation in
private was hold bst.cru them, aud then Mr. Pedrck
said Gentlemen, We will raise the pipe aud satisfy
you that tl,rc H. no deception The pipe &C.
cordinrly raised Mr. Paine GIFTED the gas. il gave
very fssblc light. Mr. Prdrics a-krd " ~e salts
ned nov ssid " am satisfied hat the gas which is
nov passing through the pipe 3, hydrogen and you
Will obge me ny permitting tn" PIPE TO be immcrsed
IN the turpentre again sud let see What Kind OF
Erlt We will set then Mr. Paine refused but ia
sisted upon thu experiment bling made. aud tolj him
We wh, 20 see by drogen gas could b. carburrette
one from having the room AMER the pipe restored
TO it, original position in the bottle II turpenue
vss sotse time before Mr. Paine could be Induced 10
apply the match Then at lat he did so-the fame
showed the gas 90 be hydrogen still and very dit.
fcfsnt article from that Witch hal been exhibited to
us at trst very treble light, differing but little
from the result ~ the second experiment showed
beyond ell doubt In the rind. % the gentlemen who
with me that the gss unht for illuminat alton
Mr. Paine appeared greatly confused at the rcsult
AMI sGid that the last light bright the
but Drs Chiltsn sBd rcrrsy both excsimed Not
SO not but much pser." and q this declaration
both Mr. Blake aud Mr DArrscott asscnted
Mr. rsine having eStrguished the light aud re-
fusng to permit sby further txamiuation lcn tho
hose The gas holder which was placed outside of
the house, wa empty ! Do not see hor Mr. Paine
could have drawn his supply from that
The refusal If Mr. Paine 20 permit further invcsti.
gator. wss violation ~ good faith after the assu-
rsnce ven me by Mr. Green. that such evidence
an" the gentlemen whs might acompauy me that no
dscsp1cu vas intended To he practiced have seen
ntihinE which induces me e. believe that Mr. Paine
mas ma9' any ascorery ~hstcv,r d,d not see the
ga msde. nor WaS satFfrd as 60 the ALLEGED maunfr
~ aking it nor could see What raseu Nj apca there
eoud o. between the apparatu requisite 10 produce
illuminating sac aad the apparatu. that vas sho~n
to
/ am confident that on gas vas burning n, an. aim.
and free hydrogen suethtr au' that the seirits Of
tutpeutne ceuFhave been dispensed With ali tho
without insny way anectsg the results Il the exprri
mcpts made.
al the effects might easily have been produced Nv
connecting the pipes with vssls concealed in the
cellar An OIL ga apparatus quirrs bar little room
sud Tpss aud valves can b. arranged that al the
will 81 the operator either hydrogen which gives No
hgbt illuminating gas lShichsvrr may be drsir.d
can be conveyed 20 the burners
Respectfully submitted CIitS VOONE
The undersigned having been present the erstni.
nstiop st Worcester drsrrihtu by SIR Roomr i'm tba
foregoing report aerrs with him ia all the statement.