The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-04-10

is unable TO tell their names. and The result will
' :. mat the may &c Obliged 70 spend week
Mi. UNDERWOOD. All that matter has been talked |
over. l want To- show my friend from Alabama that
here nsuperabe difficulties on the other side III
you cannot gel The name Of one Of these children in the
Mr. CLEMENS. Easy easonsh Each planter knows
hat such woman has many children, and he ar
I'VE al the ages OF them but cannot tell you anything
about the names. He viii say, Tor example: "A negro
woman named Eliza has four children, OF such and such
ages when he will not probably know the Of one
p them He knows perhaps. nothing about them. until
hey get to be twelve or fourteen years OF age.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD. | cannot speak for the negro
families at the South; can only speak for that descrp
State venture TO say TINT there is planter in my
quarter OF the country but can el you the Of ev
We generally keep record OF the names OF blacks and
whites the farms, and their ages and should sup
pose that, while the farmer at the South recording
ages Of the children Of slave woman named Eliza
Mr.. CLEMENS. did not say he recorded it only
that he knew very well about the ages Of the children
OF the age, suppose it would be connected with the
name II there none then he has guess the age,
and he might well guess at the name fer is wholly
But you must describe il in some way or
other; and il you put down the children number
one, number two and on will do just well by
name, provided you mention them in some way in which
want 10 make. The whole difficulty is here require
the name, when il cannot be given. We do not require
oath from the man as to the names; but il he can
give the age Of the children he can give the name AT the
same time. II he gives the ages he give the
and even if he has to put down string OF fictitious
names, i win make no difference.
Mr. BORLAND The senator says you have nothing
but the labor Of taking these tables would ask him II
he has considered the number that would have to be
taken There are, believe, about 100000 slaves in
the United States Supposng there are hundred TO each
page in which they are recorded. you would then have
10000 pages of writing to do; which is one thing.
Then, if the Of all the inhabitants are taken pro-
49, NNrr IL
the addition to the labor of $4,000 pages for the slaves
and 900 for the whites will add very materially to the
time and labor required II appears to be proposed,
to print these names for DO not see the use Of Ia
king them unless they are printed to be laid before the
country Then, sir. you have 10000 pages Of printed
matter WSsh i q GG sort # practical s use ~
cred, and will give the gentleman an illustration which
entered into consideration Of the matter You have
25Ooo00 the United States, the Of every
one OF whom taken in writing at the last presiden
tia election This illustration under consideration
at the time For the purpose 81 accuracy in the ballot
box you take the names OF 2,5O00oO voters and it will
be increasing every four years at very rapid rate in all
time TO come. There is no difficulty experienced in
that matter. No printing grows out Of il, and it is an
every days practice 10 do it.
Well, s,r let US take another illustration We take
all these things in lists OF taxable property in Ken
lucky, and take down name after name, and there is
no "a difficulty growing out q 4, it. hin. ana .,.r,.a
first just precisely in the way did the other
gentlemen. All these questions suggested themselves,
endedvOfeu 10 Trace them uOWn 10
their very elements and the conclusion arrived at Isl
hatf you wish insure accuracy and speed il will best
be done by taking the and age down; and II the
is fabricated il will not make the least difference
And the idea suggested that planter does know
The names OF his slaves, makes kind of difference
whether he knows them or not. He will know just as
10 get as accuracy possible and this will be the
,peedes and most accurate way OF getting Information
have nothing more, believe to say upon that partic
llar subject had some other matters to suggest and
well them all time
wish the amendment offered by my friend the chairman
If the committee, should be adopted, and
MIR. BADGER. would suggest 10 my friend from
Kentucky kind of compromise: that with regard TO
hese little verbal amendments TO the BILL all have
our own opinions i might be as well to vote upon them
without delay Tor assure my friend, ii we take much
lime upon each verbal amendment, shall not get this
bill through in two months and then it will be too late to
obtain either the names or the ages lLaaghter.l
Mr. DAVIS. How would il meet the views OF the
mover OF this amendment 10 place il in the alternative
name or NUMBER
Mr.. BUTLER. cannot, for my life. see the use OF
all My friend from Kentucky generally has my
gole upon practical matters but upon this question we see
The question being taken on Mr.. Buffers amendment
/ was agreed to.
Mr.. BELL suggested to the chairman of the Census
Committee the propnety OF making ndmen to the
bill in the column Of agricultural products IN relation to
sugar machinery and machinery for other purposes. In
his district Of the country there large amount OF cap
al invested in such machinery.
will state that the committee have bad that subject under
and there proposition TO take
count OF the value OF agricultural implements But II
was at once that it would embrace all farming tools
and utensils Of every description and would therefore
be attended with great deal OF trouble Ii struck our
minds, on the whole that il would not compensate for
The trouble of the investigation which would necessarily
be required II IT Is desirable however to take vaiua
lion oil machinery used in the manufacture OF sugar. or
cotton, any oil these great articles, think there may
be an amendment made in the table.
The VICE PRESIDENT. That is not now under
consideration.
MIR. BELL | understood that il was. will merely
neutrality-suspicious. gins-and more particularly machines
Tor the manufacturing OF sugar 10 relation to some oil this
machinery employed on sugar plantations, some gentle
men on the other side OF the house give nfor
nation than myself believe in the amount
OF investment is about $4,000 a single plantation
The coon-gn is machine Of vast expense. do not
propose that the value of ak descriptions Of implements
shall be enumerated in these tables but such are OF
great value The reason why suggest il is that sup
posed this was the proper table.
Mr.. DAVIS The honorable senator will perceive
that the agricultural table is not under consdera
ton
Mr.. BELL We have them all under consideration.
believe
The question being then taken upon the motion by Mr.
DAVIS, OF Massachusetts,, TO strike out the original tables
i O. A. and g. and insert corresponding reported by
the committee, II was agreed TO.
Mr.. KING. | wish TO turn attention to the amend
ment OF the senator from Georgia II relates to matter
with which suppose many gentlemen are well &C
quainted as myself IL is in regard TO slaves see,
given Now, SIR, there Is not gentleman here who
does not know that it utterly impracticabe for any such
TO be given which will be at all satisfactory
The VICE PRESIDENT Will the gentleman refer