The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1850-03-27
| Mr. srrrHxs. (~his, Of Gsorsi.-I e.l tn. gentle


The srrAKxa-rh. gentleman from New York has
stated NO qusstiou Of privilege aud 10 not In order
Mir Kisc-lf you wili hear me, will state it. I
charge that the Journal Of the House hes been mutt
70 the one Of this morning. I simply requested the
Clerk 70 MI up the blank to close the debate the
Mr.. srErHtss-I call upon the gentleman to state
Wherein the journal has been nutilatsd.
The srEAKER Ths gentleman must Icy the charge
Mr.. KINo-T will ftsts What heard.
Mr.. lNoE-I object to that
The srsAxrR- The ssn,lsns will submit his charge
Mr.. KHoJ was informed, BY 4. subordinate clerk
that II had been done and by the direction Of the
The srEAxEa The gentleman argss that the Speak.
Or OF the House has mutilstsd the journal.
MIR InGE- That 10 the charge.
Mr.. McLANE-I ask for Q COMMITTEES of Investigation
MIR STEPHENS insist on my point, until the gentle
man states 'pecincslly the musistion mp'snsd Of
The SrEAxkRT The gentleman charges that tho Speak
mutiated the Journal after tho resolution had
Mr. KIso The Chair does no. state It In my precise
language
The srEAKEs VIII the gentleman put his charge in
writing,
Mr. Krso sat down to write Mean while the mem.
bers were brssthlssfly client Mr.. King In short
time eeDt tie charge In writing to the Clerk 70 be
charge the Journal Of the 18th inst has been mutt
lated BY srasins the motion made and hterlnp did
SrKAxrR-Incorpcrsts the name Of the person
MI KISa-l was told that t done by the dirso-
Mr.. RlcHAsDsor tdeu) of Illinois Mr.. Speaker
The srkAkss asked the gentleman to suspend and
ceiling up Mr. Winthrop (~hg, OF Massachusetts,, to
the chair, requested him to preside.
MIR. CoBn then took his seat among the members.
Mr.. Sr,rHESs-I would ask what IL the motion, and
what Is the specification?
Mr.. KrNG-I made motion on the 18th to end the
debate on the CslforDa bill and the word bill'
erssed, al d the word message substituted.
THE SPraEEs (yro tens The Chair has q strong In
preston that the manual requires where charge is
made that the journal has been altered or is moor.
MT KrSe Il IepestI wanted to bring the Calforuia
bill before the Heuss
Mr.: s.srnrss-I in,st. before the COMMITTEES is
raised, that there be particular specification to
what was ersss d. and what substituted.
Mr. HoLMss (drm OF .. Carolina. moved that the
matter be referred TO committee of nine for invest
cation.
Then member ,sis, tour despstch does not give any
name probably MIR. Kins)-I called &C thu CLERKS
1t In and exhibit Il to the House
Mr.. McLASE-Ths gentleman made the charge very
fully that the Speaker had mutiistsd tue journal
ssk him to complete the charge In his written charge
The SPEAKER The House cannot invsJtigste when
the name Of the perfon ie not sps Gifted
MI. MoRsE, tdem OF LouisisDs. trusted that the
snds Of the Speaker will not attempt to svsds the In
Voscss~a who doesrp "who dreams of .uoh 4.
thing ?" "A committee should be appointed" :" ut
Was enough that the charge has been made by the
Representative! -
Mr. srrrnsss ssd that bis Own respect would require
that the charge os specific aud that IL should not 60
to the COMMITTEES until this be done
qury The House owes it to their owa honor and dig
nity.
made, and asked that the Journal bs producsd.
The Clerk begau TO read the journal.
Mr. BsrLr tdsm } Of Virginis, wanted to know
-h-'her the Journal should be produced before the
committee was appointed
Tbs Journal Of 18th inst. partly read, showing
that kipgs resolution close dsbats on CalIfor.
message he insisted that it was to close on
the BILL
Mr Holsrs SAID that 1t was perfectly obvious that
he linn IN Inc
and moved that q committee Of fvs be appointed.
Mr.. RIcHARrsoS- Nine
MIR HolMks Very we'll.
Mr MoclrRsAsD, (dsm) } Of Illinois. spoke to the
question offered
inss. Gentlemen jumping up and wanting TO say soms
thing snd not more than one-hAf the members in
their seats.
Mr. Coss the Speaker asked leave to make an exp!a-
nation.
Cries of "s.t down In 'front.' 'ordsr,n "ordsrm ST.
Mr Conn ,sid-I do not wish to be Understood Is in
terposipg objection 20 the resolution whca has
been moved but i IL important ss conceive, that sn
statements OF what has should before
ths pubic. In connection with the chsrgs which
has been made BY the gsntemsu from New York,
(Mr. kipg). On the day indicated, the gentleman
Ioss TO . privileged question, under the rules Of
the House, to orsr the usual resolution TO stop
the debate on -, III. w question psndios before the
the House are aware, IL 10 resolution very
r.su-ptiy ofred and resolutions TO terminate ds-
the gentleman from New iork arose aud offered
the rrsoiuton, he had not redused n TO writing, but
:. Scn: ), ", %. ssrs s.r 40 Ts.
made motion to lay the resolution on the table The
Iouse voted before the blank had been nllsd up By
the clerk Sus,elueptiy ! sent word Co OF the
oIrrhs that the resolution must read as TO
stop debate on the California message, and 20
directed ID" snsso.ss esss .s aa in .ne,an mot esa
wss niled mp by hiu You and tins House know that
10 IL DJ duty SPEAKER 60 correct the Journal Of tue
Houss. IL is read to me the morning after the
Adjournment. when the Journal Was read
the succeeding morning the resolution was TO stop
the Dc nate S On the ns.I . ssa ne
OF the whos on the stats OF the Union ! instru,ted
the clerk to strike out the word bill givog him
my reasons for tauins the moton to include
the bill namely, that it was privileged question 60
TO stop dsbste the pssssss because 10 had not
mepsry knowedxe Of the .. ndsncy OF the bill H could
not sntsrtsin 80 privileged motion resolution TO
terminate this dstats on thus the correotion vss
made In my room, and the Journal corrected, was
rad On the next morning TO the House. The circum
sta, occurred Just ss have narrated them. have
Mr.. s,sa said ,ss. the oplnions OF Mr.. Cobb we're
such that be did not vote for putting him In the chair
bscsufe he could control on Important questions.
MIR Ricnasp.os Il call the gentleman TO order.
Mr.. Ere-Tbsre wss . ramor OF an intsation 70
mitt.s ana With ,isv TO indicate. the readiness to
vote fer California, without reference TO any other
matters.
Mir. Kne-The Clerk drev nup.
Mr Hclsss said that after the statement OF the
epeshsr there founsstion for the charge, and
he vould therefore vithdra~ his resolution.
Several other gentlemen participated In the discus-
SION.
Mr.. Brsr, (aen } Of South Csrclins, offered rsso-
lutisu, That the charge against the Speaker IT, By
Mr. King's ovn statement without color Of reason or
foundation He did not wish to make one remark In
hs support.
Mir Bsrrv 'sid he denounced the charge; bassr
one had never been made.
Mr. srsvs.s moved the previous question, which
molten ithdrsvn TO enable
Nr Senses TO ofsr resolution and Q few remarks,
deny ing tbst cepsurs ought to have done
Mr. ror ssksd whether he (Nr. King) wiliisg 10
with draw bic charge.
Mr. KiSe declined to do 20. He had high respect
for the Speaker, Esd believed that nothing bat
strsipt had induced him 70 alter the journal Tboes
Who tbreatensd the existence OF the government,
would hesitate By srtincs TO asscmplisn their pur
pore.
1bis rsm.sk producsd great eroitsmsnt. Mr.. X.
vas loudly called 10 order, and the Speaker (pre TEN
raped. ard requested the gentlemen TO take their
sssts The nouss vas In great confusion. The quss-
tiop Of order tbsp rssed the several rsso utons
which had been ordered vers sgsiu rrsd aud evsry-
bo6y wanted 20 say something sud the House refused
to 'scond the demand for the previous question on Mr.