The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-01-10

WI. DEtS iON pieseneu 'he petition OF John Thomas
for The use Of lie asehoa b. he GasI sosIp
was referred % 2 the Committee on Naval Affairs.
Mr. BUTLER presented the memorial OF The heirs NJ
Thomas Fraser asking indemnity for French spoiaons
prior 10 $500 which ordered 10 lie on the liable
Mr. DODGE OF Iowa presented The petition OF Edward
Tracy and others, asking that the benefits of the OF
iith August, is4s. for the relief Of John r B, Grato
and the legal representatives Of Henry Gatiot may be
EXTENDED 70 the essees Of lead mines lying IN The lands
q the oiowa and other tribes ot Indians which was re-
fered 10 the Committee Of Claims
Mr.. d also presented the petition OF citizens Of Iowa
ior the establishment OF nailroute from Eddyyie e
the seat OF justice OF Lucas county, in that State which
referred TO the Committee on the Post Office aud Post
Roads
! FRENCH sPoLIATIoNs.
Mr.. SMITH presented the memorial OF Joseph Sims
and others OF the heirs OF Moses Gaylord, and the
moral Of Prudence Doane, widow OF Nathaniel Doane,
asking indemnity for French spoialions prior TO soO.
In presenting these petitions Mr. said propose al
this me with the appreciation OF the Senate, 10 bring up
the question Of the reference of these questions and in
conformity with an ntimation addressed 70 the Senate
BY the Honorable senator from Alabama. MIR kIRcl
move reference OF these memorials to select COM
mittee oil five.
will slate, for the infnnaton Of the Senate what is
known 10 AL the members Of The Senate, who were
members OF the body during the twenty ninth Congress
that these memorials were on that occasion referred to
select committee, which conceive to be appropriate,
with reference 10 the nature OF the subject And desire
TO say 10 the Senate that having been member OF
the Committee on Foreign Affairs OF the House OF
Representatives during the twenty ninr Congress, the
bill which originated in the Senate and passed that
body, was referred TO that committee and was put by
the committee into my hands had The honor to report
i TO the House. and had some agency in carrying 1t
through that body Il tisa subject in which take some
interest," but have desire to obrnde myself upon the
Senate In connexion with this subject or any other. |
have no desire 10 be member Of the committee. II,
however, be supposed that can do anything to faclli
tate The proper consideration Of this subject by the Sen
ate, should be willing 10 be member of but DO not
desire to be at the head Of the committee should pre-
Ter to have some gentleman designated who is an older
eXuerIelced
could do more than would be in my power for the
full and complete and speedy consideration OF the sub
iect.
Mr.. HUNTER, Mr. President, hope that these me-
MORALS will not be referred to select committee. think
il is bad precedent believe that the best course is to
refer them 10 The Committee Foreign Relations see
no reason why they should not be senl 10 that committee
iis' The VICE st PRESIDENT The Chair j. Of opinion
Mr. KING do not intend TO take up any time, but
merely 10 say, that these claims have been frequently be.
lore This body; and recoect sir some fifteen oftwenty
years ago, that they were referred al that time 10 select
commltee and believe that has been the general course
with relation to that subject II requires good deal oi
examination OF the whole subject and lts presentation IN
the simplest form 10 the attenon OF this body, and OF
the oiher House, is matter which involves good deal
Of acumen and investganon--Inore think, probably,
than il would undergo the Committee on Foreign Re-
laons think 1t is Of such nature as should 20 10
select committee peculiar TO that purpose, and which
should have nooiLef duty o attend TO- should prefer
. 4 H
Mr.. CALHOUN. Mr.. President, think the very Iea-
sgned by the chairman OF the Committee on For.
egn Relations for the course he ae the very
why this subject should not 90 10 select COM
mee II has been often examined, often reported upon,
and eaboratey reported upon No subject IS better un-
derstood No further inquiry is 10 be made upon It, as
there new facts to be presented for investigation
think the rule is very bad one TO make exceptions 10
the regular practices and all subjects should be referred
to standing committees unless very strong ana urgent
reasons are assigned for the opposite course.
Mr. SMITH, hold in my hand the journal oil the
Senate OF the twenty ynnh Congress On the 35th AM
56th pages OF the journal, The senator will find the record
Of the action of the Senate on that occasion There
motion made then, there is in the first instance,
for reference TO the Committee on Foreign Relations
Il failed Then motion made for a reference 10
select committee; which, after discussion. prevailed, and
the committee consisted Of Of the most experienced
and well. versed members OF the Senate,
The VICE PRESIDENT. There being two motions
one for reference to the standing Committee Foreign
Relations, and the other for reference 10 select con-
mitee-he motion TO refer 10 The Committee on Foreign
Relations will be taken hrsi. @e#F
Tnc question being then taken upon the motion 10
refer TO the COMMITTEES on Foreign Relations, il was de-
cded IN the negative
The question recurring on the original motion 10 refer
to select committee OF I'VE, il decided in the afm-
alive se .tsstk3 a@
The VICE PRESIDENT said the attention Of the
Chair had been called 10 the rule which provides that
''al other committees tbesdes the sanding) shall be
appointed by ballot" a fHa@tt at
MIR GREEN suggested that the committee be appoint
ed by the Chair, by unanimous consent OF the Senate
Mr.. HUNTER and MIR. CALHOUN were understood
! Tie VICE PRESIDENT Senators will please pre-
pare their ballots.
Mr. BRADBURY moved that the election OF the com.
mee be postponed until O'Clock tomorrow; which
was agreed to.
The memorials were then ordered TO be referred to the
select committee.
PAPERS wITHDRAwS AND REFEnRrD.
On motion by Mr.. CLEMENS,
Ordeysd That the petition OF Chaes I. Gunter, the
files the eaae. be referred to the Committee on Private
On motion by Mr. MASON,
Ordered That ths petition OF John b. White, the files
Of senate be refer ed 10 the Committee Pensions
On motion by Mr.. WHlTC0MB,
o. Sersd Thst the petition Of Isaac Slnonton, the
ls Of the Senate be referred to the Committee ON Indian
Affair. 4
On motion by Mr.. KING,
ordsnsd That Hugh Wallace wormslcy have permission
70 withdraw rom The Hes OF the sena'e the papers relating
Air HUNTER moved that - Armstrong have leave
10 Withdraw his petition and papers. rd tgg.3
Mo UPiiAM desired to know the reasons for the mo-
ton 10 withdraw the papers.
Mr. HUNTER knew OF no special reason, other than
The petitioner wanted them He could only state that he
hal been requested by friend IN the other House TO
make the motion. g.9a it
Mr. UPHAM inquired whether there had not been an
adverse report upon the papers.
Mf HUNTER was of the opinion that there had been
such report but he must confess that he knew nothing OF
Inc case. tsg tM
Mr UpHAM believe that when an adverse report
has been male upon papers. they cannot be Withdrawn
under the usual practice OF the Senate When there s
clam presented 10 the Senate, and adverse report is
made upon IT, II has not been usual 10 permit the with.
drawa IL the papers but IL adverse report has been
made, they may be Withdrawn, and another reference