The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-08-20

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ma application, shall leave il with the Senate
Snail not vote upon the motion 10 receive this protest
IN leaving those who supposed 10 be disntereseS
: srt az hey may think IT.
Mr., BENTON Mr.. Presdept this is new subject
oung upon suddenly and which requires for It's eu
,daon reefehce TO parliamentary law, 10 history and
precedenls found the debate upon Il gong on wher
entered the chamber yesterday Il was surprise upon me
was not prepared to meet such proceedings but II APP
cared TO be momenious, and OF such evil consequence
The motion succeeded, that entered at once into The
sbaie on the side OF those, then apparently very few
Mo were opposed TO IT, delivered my sentiments upon
H. instant and, the subject being continued over until
o.day employed the few hours OF niermssion from
keryce in this chamberwhch the evening and morning
dorded to search The books, and find what the wisdom
IN the past would teach US The result OF that brief ex-
Elimination has been laid before the Senate in the speech
which made on the opening of the debate to-day But
Ia The DEBATE has gone on have made further exalnna,
lions and find combinations oil all SAID and something
kong beyond anything that did say, and all going 10
Snow thai this business of protesting was now a mere
Iahuse in the British House OF Lords which had given
use 10 many unpleasant there and was totay
secuted from the House OF Commons find more that
notice OF all protests must De given before The vote s la
ken order TO avoid reflection upon the House, that
protest must be promptly entered and that il may be
xpunged II found 10 be untrue, disrespectiu frivolous
crmnatlve OF the body and. more than that that
lord could use the word protest Here of the
pecedens, taken from modern and approved British
Work The Key to both Houses of Parliament, 1882
which establish these points,
Nypsnber 3d. 1883 An act declaring the rights and lib
erues Of the subject aud settling the the
Gown rider was offered 10 be added to the bill, thar
| pardons upon an Impeachment OF the House Of Com
hereby declared 10 be nu and void IL be
wh he consent OF both Houses Of Parliament, aud mega
contents, IA non-eonients, So MEMORANDUM. Tina
the putting the Aforesaid question, The lords follow
~ desired leave to enter their dsen, If carried
Tue negative, and accordingly do enter their disses
the words following
Then follow their reasons nine in number numerically
arranged all beginning with the word because" and
Concluding without any protest quote 1t for Two pur-
first, to show that the leare had to be asked, and
lard hat laA
vote taken and next, that il his dissent, and
mot protest, that went upon the journal The pro-
test only the style OF designating the act, but the
word itself was not used Ii was word OF too much
gravity, authoritative and assuming, to be used
|by peer of the realm in the British House OF Lords
Oa The contrary the paper proposed to be placed upoa
'o Journal not only protests but solemnly protests and
|mpues the most direiul consequences, hypothet-
|al dissolution OF the Union 10 the bill and
complained Of II says, "We dissent from this bill (tbe
California BILLY and solemny protest against its passage,
because, sanctionng measures contrary 10 former
precedent to obvious policy to the spirit and intent OF
The constitution Of the United States, for the purpose OF
excluding the sayehoIdng States from the territory 70
by no British peer They dissent, but do not protest
That is the language OF authority and superontythe
Hang uage which implies right TO bear testimony, and
bubble testimony, to the truth British peer could
|ase it
Limited as the right of dissent in point of time
1.-The notice to be given before the vote takenthere
was formerly time allowed, at the convenience OF the
lords, TO draw up but that being abused
Imitation was put upon in the beginning OF the present
century Thus, February 81, 1921, II was ordered
That such lords shall make proesaton. their
any OF this House, they have right to
do without asking leave OF the House, either with or with
reasons, shall their pToestaton dssents
b. entered into the clerks book the sitting OF the
House, before the hour OF O'Clock, Otherwise the
shall not be entered aud shall sign the same before the
ising OF the House the same day.
This was to limit and still further restrain, the exercise
lo right found TO be nconvenien and subject TO abuse
and without the excuse oil the reason in which 1t wa
originally founded. The paper offered could no, be
entered II our potes,ers were peers OF the realm IN the
British Parliament In the first place. notce OF II wa'
gwen before The vote the California DILL was taken
the place, this not the first day, and before two
o'clock the first day, after the vote on the bill The
bill left three days ago, and is now in the House OF
Representatives and therefore is not here TO be dlssened
from protested against.
The resolve Of February 81, 1921, shows il was the abb
souie right OF lords TO enter their dissent notice having
been gwen 10 due time They Wen, 10 the clerk and
tered down what they pleased But suppose they abused
that right and entered what was untrue, or disrespect
full frivolous, absurd, which tended 10 bring the
majority iao odium or contempt. Was the majority
without remedy Not al all They expunged! And OF TIM
there frequent examples in the presidents Thus,
certain act being passed on the 9lh oil April loso eeIaii
lords dssened because the act was neliner good Eng
lsh good sense, and because II was obstructive
the constitution of the monarchy" This was expunged
not by drawing black lines around IT, but IN genuine
style, BY scrapng 1t out But the Book Of Pfecedeni
says that, although expunged, It's record may be 'de
pended upon true copy" But now follows anothe
scene which shows the folly OF the whole, and seems
turn the whole business of protesting into ridcule Tn
protesting members whose protest bad been expunged
protested against the expurgaton and that was ex
Punged And this is what protesting has come to IN Fog
and
One other instance of the miserable practice OF protest
bg, expunging, and reproesng will complete the rdi
Guile and absurdiiy OF the praclce take II from Lor
herveys Memoirs, and IL relates to proceeding unde
Sir Robert Walpole's administration, and the famou
business OF the South Sea corruption The opposition
lords moved grand committee to inquire into the affair
Of the company the minister defeated them, and the.
protested Expunging resolved upon but the oppo
suon threatened to protest against the expungng, an,
include the first protest in the second and SO make
stuck which threat brought all parties TO stand ant
made protesting look ridiculous Lord Hervey thus re
ales the incident
The motion Tor the committee being lost, the deleate,
lords protested, aud in srong manner that Il was hard
possible for words to make more severe nvectve OF
those who had opposed the appointment OF this committee
but believe the first instance In the books where
minority had been suffered IN such plain terms TO ca
majority "a pack of ignoranf corrsW taDo 10 an "
horant, corrupt Uinsfo. A resolution was taken to e1
ponge this protest; but Sir Robert declaring that he hs
rather expunge the professors, and most people being
opinion unless the expuncton could be carried by
majority the protest had better remain this resou
ton laid aside Had II been prosecuted would hsv
certainly drawn them into Inconvenience; Tor tn
present temper and disposition Of the House would no
have permitted the court TO execute this design with hig
hand and had been executed at all, it would not onl
have contributed 10 make the fame OF spread still wider
bat given occasion To tho entry second protest agans
tue expuncos, which the FIRST would have been reclted
aud witch Lord Csrtsret twho drew the othe) had de
clared he had ready insert, aud conceived in muc
stronger terms than predecessor that the
oil eSpuncuon, besides polongng the life Of the hiag
WAS Intended 10 destroy would have helped TO generat
and produce offspring yet more offensive than the pa
rent This privilege OF protesng nth reasons, is ON
which the lords seem fond and proud OF; but OF ali paa
neptay privileges, iorms, Gu oms institutions, IL m
10 the most unaccountable and absurd II must
ways carry along WIN y censufe the conduct OF h