The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-06-28

set took place he liable y was conducted. for
the most part. 10 that low tone Of voice 10 which the
quite impossible report such conversations with ANY
degree Of accuracy Without pretending TO pledge our.
selves for the verbal accuracy o the matter suboin
we believe that the report 10 substantially accurate
Lord BRouGHAM, aiter mentioning kis nehectuzl ei-
forts 10 find the noble president oil the council yesterday
in order 70 give him notice q the question which be was
that expedition had been prepared in the ports Of the
United States, and had actually sailed from them, for the
purpose Of akas possession q the Egsses q the West
conception that that expedition had sailed with the
sent Of the American goyernment on the contrary. he
thai had ssa 2 ne
expedition had not Only sailed but had escaped the
Spanish cruisers at sea- and had actually landed on that
issnd as hope %.s that noss = .Gs ad
but pirates would meet with condgn punishment He
that aGM aa Rsa ba made BE s
American Minister in this country 10 her Majestys gov
eminent He considered the government Of the United
government and he hoped that had power and strength
enough prevent its subjects from engaging in pratt
cal expedition upon large scale against peaceful and
The MARQUIS Of LAKspowsE replied that il be had had the
good fortune TO meet his noble and learned friend yesier
day. he did not know that he could have given him any
further information than that which he ready 10 give
HIM at present This piratca expedition-fCr pratt
cal expedition it certainly and that too, OF the very
worst descriptionhad been undertaken, not only with
out the cognzance, bat also with the entire dsapproba
ton and reprobaton Of the government of the United
States. II her Majesy's government had not fully be.
lieved, from the communications which i had received
from America that such was the case, 1t would have
made known its sentiments the subject TO the govern
ment of the United States. We had received inorma
ton from the government at Washington that il was its
intention to prevent and check this unjust expedition
Information. however had been received that morning
from New Orleans, stating that part OF that expedition
had actually succeeded in landing at Cardenas
Lord BRoUGHAM would have been much better satisfied
il the American government had gone something further
than the dscaiming and repudating that expedition
That expedition was formed for the express purpose OF
practising piracy, and piracy OF the worst description
Private plumber great wrong to individuals but
in this case expedition collected OF some 5000
or 5000 men, with the intention OF carrying fire and
sword with view to subsequent plumber into un0f
tending country not only in amty with us, but also with
the United States
The Marquis Of LANsDowNE ought to have stated that
the government of the United States had not only dis
claimed and repudiated this expedition, but had actually
given orders to the commanders OF its squadrons and its
cruisers 70 stop and prevent IT, in case It sailed from the
the open seas
Lord BRoUeHAm considered tha. statement to be salts
factory addition that which had been previously made
by the noble Marquis. He could not however, under
stand how 5000 5000 men could be armed and sent
of from the United States without the knowledge of the
government there.
The Earl Of ABERDEEN had no doubts as to the sncer
y OF the proceedings OF the government OF the United
States this subject II had long been supposed that
pOWtTb.
ourselves been suspected OF looking with eye of de-
sire upon that island and he recoected well that when,
twenty years ago, we were suspected OF unlawful de-
signs against Cuba, he proposed that the United States
and France should concur with in guarantying that
island to the Crown of Spain The United States how
ever refused accede to tharproposa He hoped that
the force in that island was sufficient TO give good &C
count of the buccaneers who had undertaken this expe
dition.
Lord BRouGHAM, as q lawyer not unacquainted with
international law, challenged denial to this proposition
that all civilized nations were bound to give help against
pirates and that the commander of any British cruiser
would be negligent Of his duty he did not aid the Span
kosfis ksmdni generis His hand against every
man. and every mans hand was against him.
Lord STANLEY observed that the noble Marquis had
given very satisfactory explanation with regard TO the
course which the government of the United States had
pursued and was prepared to pursue but he had not
said word respecting the course which we had pursued
and going to pursue. He wanted to know whether
any nsructons and If any. what instructions, had been
sent TO the commanders OF squadrons in the West In
dies, In reference to this expedition
structions had been sent More than communication
had passed between the English and American govern
mems on this subject What means the American gov
say without notice.
Lord STANLEY could almost fancy that the noble Mar
concluded BY asking, slave any instructions been sent
at all n 1853 go
The Marquis Of LANsDowsr. / am not prepared,
without notice, TO state what instructions were SENT and
Lord STANLEY The invasion OF Cuba by bucaner-
ing expedition not matter Of indifference to the peo
pie OF this country and they naturally anxious to
know what instructions had been given TO cruisers in
the West India seas.
The Marquis OF LAssDowsE. The instructions could
only be eventual instructions and such instructions il
was not usual TO make known.
Lord STANLEY. Had any instructions been sent al
ali
Lord Grey In the present state OF affairs il would be
breach OF Duty the part OF any minister, TO answer
such question He surprised that, with his official
experience, the noble Baron should have asked it,
Lord STANLEY. am not 10 be taught my duty by the
noble Earl opposite Hear hearl II is the night and
duty OF every peer this House to ask any question
ment has performed its duty on matter which concerns
deeply the honor and the interests Of this country. We
have right 10 ask whether any instructions have been
sent TO commanders In the West lndies especially
as il appears that this matter has been thought worthy OF
being made the subject OF inercommuncaons between
our government and that Of the United States. have
put question TO her Maestys ministers, and wish to
know whether they will give me any answer at all
Lord BEAUMONT was rising to speak, when Lord STAN
LEY waived his hand. saying al the same time, mo,
no" hk
The Marquis Of LAspspowsK did not deny the right
OF the noble lord 10 put the question but he must on
the other hand, his discretion answering H.
The noble lord must not consider himself the sole
bitter Of the win Of the House, the sole deposiiay Of
IL dignity.
Lord BEAUMONT said that the answer that the question
was under the consideration of the government ought
10 have satisfied the noble lord and any other answer
under existing circumstances would have been ndis.
Greet
Lord BRoucHAM condoled with his noble friend, Qord
STANLEy) who ought TO be suffering acuely under the
rebuke which he had Just received but who appeared
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