The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1850-10-05

the senator from New York that they did not attend suf
ceny y !hs matter e understand the nature and pfn
cpie Of this claim There is no snalogy between this
and private claim. II 10 matter between The govern
mentp the United States and this Indian tribe and do
net therefore, think Il 10 lr.yate claim There 10 no
ssss Ss g
York says that the Committee Finance 10 make
appropriations for subjects provided for BY law The
The committees of the House and the Senate have de-
cded that shall be paid II is decided by the treaty OF
lS4o that shall be paid We have the law for this ap-
propriaon The Senate has agreed to pay this debt.
and the only thing is TO settle the nature Of the obga-
ton. which suppose could be done BY means Of the
square Qua or, q some Other root, LLasshsr Now sir
puted that should pay this debt but the question is
to the amount that is due under the law. M n
There difficulties at the last session OF Congress,
growing out OF the divisions Of the Cherokees be-
believe the honorable senator from Virginia and my hon
orable friend from New York were both on the Com
sir, there, and the Committee on Indian Affairs
There were owing 10 these difficulties. some Or
al ws ss "saos a wSn;
satisfactorily adjusted and understood Be due under
the treaties, and we will wait until the next session
male report 70 the Senate accordingly We asked an
appropriation OF 1890 900. go far towards the
liquidation of all that due The Senate agreed to
i. and passed j. My honorable friend from Virginia aud
the Finance Committee agreed TO it The appropriation
would have been made the other House. but failed
account OF Tine All that wish 10 say is that you
Congress. for Sl 100000 OF this sum- and that is only
the comparaive, small balance that are required
NDssWop IL * s "f mend d put ny. upon
this subject.
S.veTs, SEssISss ,so, Question" |" Question r
have said what have to say, and not before.
Mr.. BADGER doubt il.
Mr. UNDERWOOD. You may doubt il as you like
The PRESIDENT Gentlemen will please to come TO
MI. BADGER meant to say that / doubt whether
MI. UNDERWOOD have the Aoor now, and in
tend TO keep il until have stated my position correctly
against the representations OF that position as made BY
the honorable senators from Georgia and Tennessee,
They say that The Of my argument upon the
fact that regard this private claim and that il not
10 be viewed in the light OF private claim Now. il
any individual will demonstrate what constitutes pr
vate claim and this does not come within the de6n
ton, then will confess that am wrong want to
know if il makes any difference in this respect whether
the money goes TO single individual TO whole tribe
s claim any the less private claim because il is made
by two persons than il were made by one! Not at all
The numbers, them make no difference What, then. is
the other distinction which they attempt to make' II is
sir that they say that this appropriation is based upon
treaty. and that because is be made in pursuance Of
treaty which the public law Of the land that pre-
statement II you pay spoations committed upon ct.
zens Of foreign country, and pay them in compliance
count 10 be private claims Take the case Of The Mex
can claims which the government Of the United States
assumed 10 by the treaty OF with Mexico You
portion the money among the claimants Have those
claims ceased to be private claims because they be
paid under treaty Unqnesonably they have not The
claim is the less private claim because 1t is paid
in pursuance OF law Every claim is paid under the
thority OF law The remarks of the senator from New
York were conclusive upon tha, point hope that these
suggestions sufficient 20 show that this claim is not
which ought be favored the ground that il is
not private claim, and therefore the arguments which
applied TO II are not Inappicable MIR President know
that wha, have said will probably have no effect. [
shall therefore not tespass further upon the time OF the
Senate "a ID
Mr. WALKER have an amendment which wish
to offer
Propided, That in no case shall any money hereby
appropriated DO paid to any agent 70 any other
taan 70 the Indian or Indians TO whom u Is due"
MIR. STURGEON. Mr.. President, hope that amend
ment will prevail see no reason why the govern
ment should interfere between the Indians aud their
agents.
Mr.. WALKER. The treaty requires it to be paid to
Mr.. EWING. think the amendmen, is right. T,does
not mean that the money shall not be paid 10 the agent Of
the Unied States among the Indians, TO be paid them
| but tnal il shall not be paid to agents here
Mr.. BELL. see no objection to paying the money to
any agents whom the Indians may 1T toappoint The
Cherokees not IN the habit OF appointing agents who
cannot be trusted believe their agents in the
city, waiting To receive this money That tribe least,
generally represented by able and intelligent gentlemen
from their nation. such as are here now,
Mr.. DAYTON. am no, familiar with these subjects;
but. from such knowedge and impressions have, il
seems 10 me that this amendment is wrong Thus money,
il understand is due TO the Cherokee nation per capita,
and II this amendment is passed the money will have TO
be paid TO each individual Of the tribe want TO know
whether IL il considered practicable for the Indian agent
TO make such individual payments.
| Mr., EWING. Yes; that is all right The Indian
agent pays per capita TO each member oi the tribe.
Mr.. DAYTON. Will the Secretary be kind enough TO
read the proviso again.
The amendment was again read
| Mr. EWING To whom the money isdue. Now, being
under the law due per oapd should be paid per odpd
TO each individual OF the tribe.
MIR. DAVIS, of Mississippi think the difficulty with
the senator tnm New Jersey s, that he confounds the
payment 10 agents here with the pay ment made through
the Indian agent residing with the tribe have had
opportunity Tor observation upon this method Of payment
present on one occasion when The ayment was made,
and il gave great satisfaction TO the tribe.
1 The amendment 10 the amendment was adopied-ayes
~, noes 81.
The question being taken on the amendment as
amended, IL was agreel TO-
| Mr. BARNW ELL. Mr. President, 1 sm requested by
my friend from Iowa Mr. DoDcel 10 the reconsd-
Grafton Of the vote which was taken, limiting the extern
SION OF the treaty TO the south Of the st Peters river
voted for the amendment myself, and shall vote for IL
again but, at his request, move the reconsideration OF
that vote.
Mr. DODGE, of Iowa trust the motion will prevail
TO reconsider and then that the amendment will be
iected. II IS feature ngraed upon the motion OF the
senator from Maryland, and wi think, work very
great mischief II WILL al least embarass the action OF
| the commissioners and OF the Indian department
i Mr. FREMONT. hope the reconsideration will be
granted and the amendment rejected II relates very
large tract OF land OF great fertility, and which will be
OF great utility 10 Minnesota II abounds in small streams
and lake., and one Of the beautiful regions in the
| Northwest
4 The question being taken upon the motion to recon