The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-04-12

could De hardly said to have character OF her own
What had fitted them to be citizens Of the world had
untitled them to be citizens Of the country to which
they belonged for "they judged Of the happiness Of
teri Now, all that applicable to the Manchester
school The grand fault of these gentlemen was, that
they could not form conception how anything that
was not good for cotton spinning could be good for
thing else. Renewed laughterJ "But" said the same
writer, "let blame them for forgetting, in the
interest Of their country or at least before doing So
let him visit the ports of London Liverpool Bristol
ana ne can purer foundation for English
thorty for honorable gentlemen oppositetheir darling
Adam Smith. The only quarrel he (Mr' Drummond)
had with honorable gentlemen with respect to Adam
Smith was that they would read beyond
OF him. "A laugh Let them attend to this-"As
their the manufacturersY thoughts however are COM
monty exercised rather about the interest Of their par
cular branch ofbusness than about that their
Judgment even when given with the greatest candor
TO be depended upon the former than tho latter
The interest Of the dealers in any particular branch
fersnt from or even Opposite 70 tbot Of tSs nSbio
Qiear hear) Yet 1t was for such men as these that
the Legislature had acted for many years back, and
acted still The manufacturer sent to Africa for his
cotton grown by the African aborcr having employed
the African lsborer and shipowner, he would take it
home and spin into cotton then It was put on board
. French vessel and exchanged for French silks
wines; so that from beginning to end, English
lsborcr would be employed Ironicai cheers from the
fine enthusiasm, exclaims -
"RT ss there With :opl dead
sNAN''A " "A"oNA' n"'n o"u-
This is my own my native land ?"
On yes" rays the honorable gentleman opposite "at
Manchester there are a thousand Of themn Cheers
and laugter) Not content Continued the honorable
genteman with resorting to bribery to get up
lions against your saors-not satisfied with assaing
them and your naval officers with taunts YOU now say
We have superstitious reverence for the navy. 1t
may be true We have superstous for that
gallant service. II may remain among yet. Time
was when we had q yeneration for it. There in
deed time when had a national fath-when we
venerated ave. worshipped II you like the statesmen
who guided the destinies Of this country-when we
respected the magistrates who cred her laws
and admired the and soldiers who devoted their
lives to her services time when national creed
was Rule Britannia, and the finest anthem in our
ritual God rave the Queen" (Cheers)
MIR. LAnoucHERE argued the question upon the
ground Of British interest, not emitting the ship
ping interest itself the advantage Of which he re-
gardcd deeply involved in the of the
sure before the House The question then before the
house the principle Of the BILL and he did not look
for the vote Of any honorable member in favor Of
who did not admit the prepriety of departure from
the system Of the navigation laws. He avowed his
readiness to consider any suggestion in reference to
the details Of the measure provided they not in
consistent with the principles which the bill in
troduced. The right honorable gentleman then briefly
offered in connection with the colonial long voy-
age, and coasttng branches Of the subject lie saw
duties should operate as bar to the Inn Immediate S
repeal Of the navigation laws As to Mr. Gladstone's
suggestion he thought that the House would take a
narrow and view Of the true policy of the
country they to adopt it. Mr.. Gladstone had
claimed MI Husksson as An authority in favor Of his
suggestion; but he Mr Labouchere) thought that the
high authority Of MIR. Huskisson opposed to the
RICH honorable gentlemans suggestion and in favor Of
the policy proposed by the government. He did not
think that eur commercial policy should be made to
depend upon the views and csprces Of foreign
He hoped that the house would well consider the sub
ject before 1t adopted Mr. Gladstone's suggestion In
committee ample opportunity would be offered of con-
sdering that suggestions in all its bearings He
clded by urging upon the House the absolute neces
sty which existed for settling this important question
without delay.
Mr. MuNr1 inferred from Mr. Labouchcrc's speech
that he had great doubts as to the result Of his own
measure. The repeal Of the navigation laws would
diminish the returns and profits Of British shipping
II not why repeal them! But there advantage
which would be derived from their repeal Their exis-
tsnce was the only excuse now remaining for the failure
Of free trade CHEERS and laughter) He would help
the government to get rid Of this remaining excuse
when free trade might be fairly tested by Its fruits
Having stripped every other class Of protection he did
not think 1t fair to protect particular class. When
the navigation laws repealed it would be dacul
to say who would be the gamers.
Mr.. ScHoLErIELp observed that In his opinion, tho
people of Birmingham would be gamers by the repea
Mr. MuNIi did not mean to say that his eonstitu-
ents would not gain by their repeal All that he meant
was, that one class would gain at the expense Of
another, but that there would be no national gain.
The House then divided and the numbers were -
For Mr.. Herrics's amendment chat the bill be
read a second time that day six months). 2l0
Against II. 200
Majority against ............ Sc
prolonged cheering from the protectionists
The bill then read O second time.
The other business was disposed Of and the House
adjourned.
The telegraphic despatch in the Courier says
Mr.. LABoUcHERE moved that the House go into COM
mittee upon the bill for amending the navigation laws
He said he had important alteration to make in the
bill which he bound state at the earliest possible
stage; and he had ut first proposed sdch modfcato
Of the cossrg trade would allow foreign vessels as
well British to combine coasting with foreign YES
H. fhorof E.al Ing
tilted in asking the House to agree with that part Of
the measure which would throw open the coasting
trade the bill would consequently return to the shape
in which il was proposed last.
Mr. GLADsroNr said tho right honorable gentleman
had been more mercfu in the withdrawal of that part
Of the bill which proposed to open the coastpg trade
than in justifying the original Of such modification.
II evident Sir T. Freemantles opinion had from the
first been adverse to the proposition Of government 1t
was besides very for the Minister make
statements for his conversations with subordinates
Such persona practices perple1ed the public mind
with regard to the person upon whom the responsibility
should rest. Mr.. Gladstone then concluded; stated
that he should not embarrass the government by di
city as be should now prefer the bill Is it wasno bill
at all The right honorable gentleman then gave an
outline Of the plan he had intended to propose for
rying reciprocity by means Of conditional regulation
and repeated that he would not press 1t to q division
MIR HERRIEs said the proper course would be for the
government to withdraw the bill and introduce ne "
one after the material alteration that had been made
in it, He should divide the House the side reading
The House then went into COMMITTEES on the BILL and
the addition of provision to the effect that the exist
ing retrenchment should continue In force until II sp-
10 ii ns 70
countries had been removed. This division op-
poeed by Mr.. Labouchere, Mr.. Hcrries, and others
and, after heightened debate the Committee divided
The members were:-
For the provision. Observation-Disclosures. Is
Against 1t. .......... l32
Majority against it,. III
The provision consequently rejected The clause
then agreed to. The other clauses up to No. 16
agreed to- after which the Chairman reported pro-
gress. Adjourned at IL.
VERY LATE FROM VAIPARAIso.-Lctters we're
received in this city this morning, says the Boston
I|arcKcr of the 10th inst, from Valparaiso, over
land the I'd of last month, having been short of
forty days on the way. A number Of vessels had
ships Sophia Walker, from Boston, arrived Feb. 8;
ii. Erving, from do, arrived Feb. ~, in rs days
passage, and the brig Horatio from do.-The ship