Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1849-07-31

Jurors paid; and other counties can reJrcl It, i1'
County was in favor OF paying the Jurors, auo
the system would work fairly and equally ~ ~
ery portion of the Stale. Mr.. G. did mol oeiievc
the County Courts would refuse to abide oy pun,
lie opinion. Mr.. c. appealed 10 The House 70
grant this just privilege. o
GOODSON, as member OF The Cou',
was opposed TO this discretion, and be oid po'
think The Court should be dashed ia. Inc oa.e
should pay The expenses Of lis own prosecutors.
Mr. G. said one Court may FIX The levy, ana 1ne
next Court may repeal il. The Legislature snouiu
fix some sure and certain plan.
Mr. HIETT was 10 favor OF paying Jurors, ou'
he was opposed 20 laying TAX on poor mar,
whom yesterday We had disqualified lie was
willing 10 pay Jurors out Of The Treasury
Mr. PERROW said The provision for paying
the jurors OF the County Court could not be car
lied out. BY The sections, Jurors 10 The Circuit
Cour would be pal and The sane provision
MIR DORMAN sand provision Tor The COM
pulsory payment OF Jurors had twice passed the
House and been rejected by The Senate, and ne
should vote for The present sections, as The oesI
we could get.
Mr. MAJOR called The previous question,
which he subsequently, withd.ew, Mr. STRC-
TIER having asked The ayes and noes.
Mr. WHlTfLE explained the sections II a
County Court in making The genera levies,
adopts the levy Tor paying Iuries, II VIII become
permanent order OF The County Court, unless II
be afterwards revoked by majority OF The CouI.
lie suggested an Amendment, which would pro-
vide Tor such revocation.
Mr. GOODSON proles led against this special
legislation tor different counties.
Mr. DORMAN said Inc main opposition came
from those who were in favor OF laying Ju-
fors OUT OF The Trraslfy-but The Senate had
twice rejected, and would again reject said pro-
ylsion-and he was for the sections, as The only
thing We could do.
Mr. GOODSON did not look 10 the Senate to
govern his action here. They we're responsip.e
10 The people.
Mr. DORMAN said, II he wished 10 pull down
wall, he would not but his head against II, ou1
would undermine il. These sections are The hfsI
step 10 undermine the system.
Mr. GOODSON. And The wall may fall on
am crush you.
Mr.. MAYO moved 10 amend the I'm sec.
lion, SO as 10 provide, that when there IS no Sc.
parale Circuit Court for town, The Jurors IN
thar court shall not BE- paid, unless the County
and Corporation Courts concpr therein, and ap-
portion The same 10 be levied and paid Tor by
said county and corporation.
MIR. WHITfLE explained the l7lh section,
as Just and fair.
MIR. RlVES objected to tie 18Th section, re-
curing The fines imposed on officers and Jurors,
under this chapter, and paid into the treasury
from any county which provides Tor paying us
Jurors TO be paid on the warrant Of The FIRST
Auditor 10 The order Of The county lor The pay
ment OF ia charges MIR. r. also objected 10
the failure 10 exempt from taxation the poor
men, who were yesterday di'quain'd.
Mr.. WHIrTLE explained and defended The
section.
MIR. MAYO then withdrew his motion.
Mr.. LANE OF Lee moved 10 amend the l7h
section, ~ as TO provide for paying jurors OUT q
lbe public treasury, on The warrant ut the Audi.
tor and the certificates Of the clerks land asked
the ayes and noes.
Mr.. ROBINSON opposed The appointment, as
he lid not desire The people OF the Yves. 10 pay
Tor The Jurors in Norfolk
MIR. VERIFY could not vote for the amend. |
men, as it was inc0ngIuous with The fist sec
ton, which the House had refused 10 strike out.
MIR. PERROW thought we should march up
10 the work al once, and not leave il 10 Tie
Courts.
Mr. FORBES called the previous question.
which was susained-and MIR. LANES
amendment was rtjeced-ayes %, noes 10
Mir. WHlTTLE moved 10 amend the 10Th
section, SO as authorize majority OF the Coun-
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pay jurors.
Quite long AMI animated conversational dis
cussion took place on point Of order involved
10 competition for The floor between Mr..
Goodson and MIR. Rives. Mr.. Goodson, II ap-
pcared, had Eeea standing Tor some lime, when
he addressed The Cnaif At This time Mr.. K.
rose and said, "l move The previous question"
and then exec pied TO MIR. G.'s hight 10 The door,
under lale parliamentary decision. The
Chair gave The door TO Mr. r.
MI GOODSON, with view 10 settling the
privileges OF members appealed from The d:cis'
ion OF the Chair. He coLlended that Mr.. Klvss
in rising 10 a point ut "riar sa;na, MIR. CO
nigh! 10 speak, had no right 10 The locr himself
~ apeak or make a motion, for the aDor was
then open 10 any member who irsl rose in or
der. Mr.. 6. meant no disrespecl 10 The Caair
or the House, but wished justice done
The House-Mr. GOOOSON having called
the ayes and Observation-Disclosures 10 nues II
the decision OF The Chair as the juds mcnl OF
The House.
III is proper to say that there were Two YER
sions OF the facts OF The case, and that members
voted accordingly. Tho above are merely the
facts as stated by the Chair, prevou. 10 the
vote. The j,urnal states The case as follows:
"Mr. Goodson, standing, addressed the Chair,
and was recognized by The Speaker Mr.. Riy,s,
rising tom his seal, addressed the Chair, and
demanded The h)cr, upon The ground that The
rule oi The House required member 10 rise,
and address MIR. Speaker lhereupon, The
Speaker decided that Mr.. Rives was entitled 10
The aoor, from which MIR. Guodson appealed 10
The House." &c.
Mr.. RlYES, who was thus declared entitled
10 The a)or moved The previous question (sus.
,ained) ON Mr. Whiul-'s Amendment, which
was agreed 10.
MIR. ROBINSON moved the previous Ques
lion on the motion 10 strike out The 10Th, 9Th
and !Sh sections; and Mr. LANE asked the
ayes and noes on The previous question, which |
was sustainc I-aycs 63. noes 80.
Mr. FORBES called the ayes and noes on |,
the molion TO strike out The three sections, which
was loSt-ayes IL, noes 76
Mr.. FAULKNER moved 10 amend cnaper
7ih, SO as 10 provide that only those jurors, WHO
are summoned on The orisinal pannel II twenty.
tour, and serve, should be paid. They were sum
moned 10 serve during the term, and should be |
paid-and not others
Mr.. MONCURE, OF S, thought the Jurors
summoned from by>tanders and tales men, 10 |
make up the number, were equally entitled 10 BE-
paid with he original pannc o. Fl
Quite discussion here COOK place between |
Messis. COOK, LANE oil L., FAULKNER |
MONCURE Of 5, VERIFY ana IRVING, as
TO The construction of The TIN section.
Mr.. IRVING thought Inc only means b,
which The House could escape from he difficult
", was 10 reconsider their action and adopt Mr..
Finney's amendment making il peTenpory on
the Counv Courts 10 pay Jurors.
MIR. VERIFY sustained Mr. Fauknel's amend
ment.
Mr. COOK moved that the House adjourn
as this was an important question, and il was
la,e-but Mr.. c. Withdrew his motion, so as 10
allow Mr.. GOoison 10 move TO correc. The Jour.
hal as 10 The point OF order, referred 10 above.
MI. GOODSON then read statement OF lacts,
which he asked 10 he entered on The journal.
Mr.. CONWAY was proceeding 10 show that
the Chair was in error as TO the facts and the
rule when he was called TO order by Mr..
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