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TERRITORY Minnesota
The bill to establish the territorial government of Mi
having been returned from the House OF Represent
atyes with several amendments the Senate proceeded to
the consideration OF the
Mr.. DOUGLAS said that the Committee on Terrific
rles had directed HIM to recommend all
the amendments except the last and that the last amend
ment be concurred in.
The question being then taken upon all the amend
ments excepting the referred to by the senator from
Illinois, they concurred
Mr.. DOUGLAS. now move that we non concur with
Mr.. JOHNSON OF Louisiana What is that amend
meni'
Mr. DOUGLAS The last amendment is that the bill
should take effect from and after the 10th of March, in
stead OF from and after its passage.
MIR. WALKER suggested that this was being unneces-
sarly careful about fixing the time when the act should
take effect He hoped. that government might be in
sured to Minnesota, that that amendment would be con-
Cured IN He made those suggestions account of the
Mr. DAVIS Of Massachusetts inquired What ma yuss-
The PRESIDENT. The motion to non concur with
Mr. DAVIS. | hope, sir that the Senate will concur
in the amendment from the House.
Mr. DOUGLAS. The senator overlooks the fact that
the first part OF the bill takes effect Immediately, and that
there will be an incongruity
Mr. DAVIS. should like to have opportunity TO
examine this and move that it be postponed until to-
Mr.. DoGGLRs hope the postponement will not
prevail If this bill is to go back to the House of Rep
1eseatatves as question not will hope may have
may as well fall at once Why not let the bill stand
at the last session. understand the object OF
that amendment to be TO force to say that
willing that the President of the United States in
office should make the appointments in this BILL | am
unwilling to make this vote of censure upon the Pres
dent of the United States by admission of the Senate
that the sole object is 10 deprive him of this appointing
power There is no reason for this change; and it was
Sir they not willing to wait until their administration
comes In, but provide in every bill introduced that the
President of the United States shall not have this appoint
ing power Not only that but they have already begun
to ask to double the foreign missions-to give our
charges des aaes full Missions TO pay double salaries TO
those who go, and to create Home Department And
now they forward and ask to make vote OF
censure upon the President in office. have been
threatened that if did not agree il this bill should
be killed wish 10 make this test vote, and ask the
yeas and nays upon concurrence with that amendment
Mr.. UNDERWOOD | rise because the senator has
charged upon disposition in legislation to reach
the spols OF the country and this measure coming from
the House, destined to be the evidence of such
tenton. wish to put to that gentleman and his pol
cal associates whether, upon former OCCASION when
nominated for high stationthan whom there is not
more accomplished gentleman in the wide extent OF this
they did mol refuses upon the doctrine
OF the spoils, to confirm that nom nation'
Mr.. TURNEY. call the gentleman to order
The PRESIDENT. The senator will state his point OF
MI. TURNKEY. The gentleman from Kentucky is re-
!ating what transpired in executive session.
Mr.. UNDERWOOD wished to give an example Of
the policy of the democratic party in this matter; and
allude only to facts well known.
The PRESIDENT. The presiding officer is not aware
that the insneoa Of secresy has been removed
1t took place in 1925 and there is secresy about IT.
The PRESIDENT. Then the gentleman from Ken
lucky is in order, and may proceed
Mr.. UNDERWOOD Sir, could bring home upon
them case much nearer than that; but my tongue is
tied will not violate the rules of order. give you
that, sir, to show what has already TRANSFERRED Now,
Mr.. President, wish it understood that have always
been against this doctrine of the spoIs, and expect to
die opposed to it. But am not willing to have lectures
read to BY gentlemen who have practised upon the
commended to their own lips. they repudate their own
doctrines and practices, and attempt to settle upon the
wing party the originaorsl hope not the orginators
hope not the orginators-but those about, from
sinister motives. to adopt principle OF this kind. Mr.
President, have said that have always been against
the doctrine of the spols and always expect to be. Sir,
to the constitution of the United States by which
hope with the aid and assistance of the two branches of
Congress- and of the States ultimately to put end TO
this doctrine which believe is sapping the very founda
tons upon which the republican institutions of this
country rest and which, permitted to be carried out
according to the former principles will corrupt the people
and the government until a--all, sir-must wish to
see it overturned. Sir, we will see-I gave notice
at the time presented, that amendment of my in
tentlon-We VIII see, III we I'VE, VINO Will vote LOT
it and who will not Sir, it is practice which
must be arrested. Now, sir, when avowed this yes
terday and when | have notified you of the intention
of doing what can to change it, | am not willing 10 sit
by and gentlemen upbrad the whg party for taking
step to secure the spols, when they themselves have
been the very gentlemen who have introduced il upon
the country, and who have prachsed upon 1t for the last
twenty years. Sir, | admit that we have spos.men in
party, there in all parties, and regret that,
from the signs OF the tines there may be many of them
assembling in this city at this particular juncture but,
sir, the gentlemen the opposite side, all OF them
the last in the world who have right to say, by the
way of reproach 10 us those who have here to
get Office 'You too greedy you disposed to le
glslate for the benefit OF your Trends" Sir
the journal OF which has been published by Congresses
enough though could bring up scores sir relation to
this question. / will yield the floor, having made this
remark, sir-hat think have hardly appropriately
vealed the indignation which feel upon being thus
charged, and from such source.
Mr.. DOUGLAS. | have only word or two to say in
reply to the honorable gentleman from Kentucky In
gard to the OF Mr. Cenden to which he referred
1t no parallel to this No changes proposed to be
made in bills before Congress- for the sake of spos
The incoming administration did not call upon political
Opponents to sultfy themselves for that purpose but
here, sir, that bill reported at the last session by
committee composed OF both political parties and That
committee agreed unanimously to this form all suppo
sing then that it right II has been changed now,
certain gentlemen belonging to OF the political parties
of the country. We OF the democratic party say, We
will not change our legislation with reference to the
spos one way or the olher we will go on as we did
we will pass our bills in the same way we would have
done If we had succeeded in electng President;
are not to be changed by the change OF administration
These gentlemen say it very wrong, they in
>Iaff ho n wa r0ht ay