The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1849-01-20

Mr.. AIHEklON. That depends very much on The
fact whether any amendments are proposed TO IT.
| Mr.. ATCHISON said there was an Indian treaty
pending before the Senate that ought be acted upon be-
fore this congregation oTl, bill should be passed
Mr. ATiERTON insisted that the bill should be taken
up and II II should be found necessary TO make any
amendments TO it, then they might postpone it.
Mr.. BELL SAID that in conversation with the gentle
man from New Hampshire the other day concerning the
appropriation, ii escaped his recollection at that tme that
besides this treaty. there were other appropriations called
for carry the execution OF the treaties heretofore
ratified The committee not then prepared to
port He remembered one that was the treaty Of
1915; and he hoped the gentleman would not press the
consideration OF this bill to-day. Whenever these appo
priaons should be reported upon by the committee
there would be no objection to taking them up at
any time. He presumed there would be no great de-
lay when the bill Should be akenup. If these omissions
were made now, il doubtful whether they could
again get any other appropriation bill through the Senate
| Mr. ATHERTON said, if it should be thought proper,
he would cheeTuy consent to the posponement; but
he should like 10 have the bill read.
! Mr. JOHNSON OF Maryland IL it the purpose of the
senator to Do than have 'he bill read
can with it, or until an amendment shall be offered.
Mr. JOHNSON of Maryland thought that the Senate
M s iS es S so%s
nation required point already embraced in the
bill and he should like 10 know fthere any such in
purpose of replying to them. He thought il would be
better settle the details far they embraced
in the bill, and in that way save time.
| MIR, ATHERTON then withdrew his motion.
| TERRITORY Minnesota
Mr.. DOUGLAS moved that the Senate proceed to the
consideration of the bill to establish the Territorial gov
eminent of Minnesota; which motion was agreed to:
The question being upon the engrossment of the bill
| Mr. KING should like to ask the honorable senator
who reported this bill question. have not myself
anined the sufficiently to determine what number of
citizens of the United States reside within the limits of
MIR. DOUGLAS. cannot answer the question def
niiely, sir My impression is that there are some
where between 5000 and l0OJo people scattered diff
ferent parts of the Territory. Most of them in
settlement and then it is several hundred miles before
you come to many more, Immigrants are pouring in
with great rapidy and there already than the
number usual for the establishment of Territorial gov
eminent fr
Mr. KING. do not intend to throw any obstacle in
the way of extending the laws OF the United States
all ourpeople wherever they be, provided that they
so congregated that the laws can operate upon them
But if they but few individuals scattered
immense territory. the senator will at perceive that
it is utterly useless to attempt it, do not any posi-
tive necessity for il in such case. and it seems TO ut
| terly impossible TO enforce such government.
/ Mr. DOUGLASs Perhaps my remarks conveyed to
the senator wrong impressoni in regard to the settlement
OF Minnesota, and had meaning which was not intend
ed meant to that there settlements in different
portions of this Territory each compact. but separated
from the others by long distance The great body Of
the people live in the valley of the ST. Croix, and the
country adjacent and are loleraby dense and compact
Several hundred miles below there other settlements
all being toleaby dense in themselves, but at the
dition that the laws apply them without difficulty
but at the same time they are not adjoining
A SENATOR. Where are they! N XIII .T .s5
| Mr. DOUGLAS. 1 have not map here, and cannot
conveniently be more definite. The committee have
passed upon this subject two or three times.
Mr. WESTCOTT would state to the senator from
Alabama that short time since had very interesting
conference with the delegate from Minnesota, who has
just been admitted to seat in the House of Representa-
lives understand that there about 5000 people in
the space of 100 square miles in one settlements about
200 votes given at this delegates election There
are three other settlements in the territory, situated
the honorable senator from Illinois has just stated This
| impressed
having territorial government there for variety OF
reasons; and fully agreed with this gentleman upon
that point The rapid immigration the crowdng in, the
building of dwellings and mills, the Improvements upon
the river, are most extraordinary They have expended
several hundred thousand dollars in these improvements
in dammlng across the river, &c and there ~ no law to
restrain the malicious or wanon acts OF individuals in
this respect Since Wisconsin has been admitted
State they have been without any law There forty
lawyers in that country Though do not like this b
in all respects, am perfectly satisfied that there ought
to be territorial government there and that it is abso
uey necessary that should be Immediately organized
Mr.. DODGE OF Iowa said the establishment OF Ter
ritorial government for the people OF Minnesota
measure in which the State that he in part repre- ened
felt the deepest interest Every consideration of justice
and public policy demanded that this government should
extend the rgis of its laws that distant portion OF
the frontier. 1t had been delayed from time to time until
recently the necessity for government had become ur
gent The House of Representatives, more than two years
since, had passed, almost unanimously, Just such bill
as that now proposed by the honorable Chairman OF the
Committee Territories the organic act for the govern
men of the Territory of Minnesota That bill had been OPP
posed and defeated in the Senate upon the frivolous
grounds It was true, stated by the senator from
Florida mir. WEsTcoTT,] that there was population
amply Sufficient to demand territorial organization. BY
the admission of Wiconsin into the Union as State,
whole counties, with many hourshing towns had
been left without her borders and without any civil uris
dcon unle it decided that the old territorial laws
of Wisconsin in force. The eyes of the whole peo
pIe of that section of the country anxously
turned to Congress; and shall their long cherished hopes
be again Disappointed trust not hope there will be
no further opposition long needed, and
,,f tpf h,fy lN
nifty.
/ Mr. BUTLER AS understand the matter, part of
the Territory formed Minnesota in the bill before
us was part of Wisconsin The boundary of Minnesota
runs 10 the side of lake Superior, to the st.
Crox, and the river forms, therefore, very important
communication. Upon that part oil the Territory, un.
derstand, there good many inhabitants who proba-
They have formerly been in the territorial organ
cation and, under the ordinance of 1857 ought to have
been taken into that State when 1t organized such
is impossible for Congress to rerocede it, compel
Wisconsin to take it back that now the inhabitants
of that Territory without law, while they have before
been under the Territorial government of Wisconsin.
There is, doubt, difficulty in it, as with regard to all
where there few settlements. The immigration,
however is very rapid requiring jurisdiction OF this
kind, order TO adjust the rights OF individuals living
there There TO- 900 inhabitants there, and do not
see how withhold from them such government
as they require .a 81. red.
Mr. KING. | wish the Senate to understa that my
object is not to oppose the organization of govern
ment in Minnesota, provided the number of inhabitants
there is such render it proper think the action
of the House OF Representatives was premature The
statements made by my honorable friend from Illinois
remove from my mind the objections which nj first