The New York herald., 1849-02-27

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tne rave quesuon II the territories DO nsw free how
esn slavery 60 there but BY positive enactment!
A. Mr wILhoT REMARKED that If tho gentleman thought
that IL necessary to have previous law to ssnotou
slavery before there he has read the history
OF tie country without pro0t. There s not foot Of
sou now covered by slavery but What was free before
slavery wst planted there and carried there before
previous 'aw was passed 10 ssnction 1t. There Is no
ioii free but what made by positive Law.
slavery mas always gone up to the limit. What ex-
cooso havsry rom the Northwest territory but posi-
uvelaw! What excluded 1t north Of SO deg 80 mi
but positive law wherever positive law has net for
bioden IT, there has it gone.
Mr. JoHTsoN, Of Arksnsas-Whst was the suhjeot
matter Of the private conversation with the President
IN rsiAt,on TO the proviso!
Inc CHAiRMAN raid that the question was out OF or
der.
Mr. MuRrnr re'umed-He was happy to hear the
tsma, OF n,s .fsnd rom rsnnsyvsnia hut the gen
New MEXICO and Cslfor mia. Texas snd renosylvAnia,
and not ours. Slavery has been in,rod uced -x
cept 6y the rse VIII and consent Of she people. He
would tell the people Of New Mexico aud Csliforu MIA
that they wish have slavery It i. none OF our bu
nnsss The question properly belongs to thsm Sls-
ternal poty and ioternsl interests, with which no
external power has anything to do He applied this
argument TO the North Is well as to the South The
ordinances OF 1857 was necessary because slavery
part OF the domain Of Virginia. in which slavery exist
"a BY law and in fact There slavery in Kaskas-
kia vhen the ordinance was passed Slavery went
south because was part OF Virginia, In which sa
very was soknewledgsd He caused extracts from
entf 10 be esd showing that the American
ienhts asserted that "the internal oon,erus Of the
css MES belong to the people thereof" Southern
gong 10 ne territories with their slaves, claim
the relation OF master and slave The connection Is
separated by the laws Whatever they are, they
Do conioi med TO- The right In this respect, cla
by the south, IL founded in error Ii has founda-
ton In fact. Before Mr.. Murphy finished all he de.
sgn saying the time for terminating the debate
rived
The rosr OFFICE BILL-ReDucrIoN or POSTAGE.
ME- AsHMuE moved pro torma, to amend the bill
ne wisned 70 say that he did not wish to discus, this
but to withdraw 1t and then propose an ndms Mt
for the reduction Of postage and to abolish the fsuk
Ing privilege. He intended to do that. although q
similar amendment had been pronounced out Of Or
DER lie believed that this to regulate POSTAGE was as
huch IN order 40 to regulate the pay Of clerks In the
pest omces.
Mr.. KAUFMAN rose to question Of order The gen.
tensn bad offered one dment, and discussing
o'her smenoment
Mr.. AsHMUH said that NO question Of order was do.
pateaoio. He Withdrew biz amendment and offered
proposing 70 reduce the postage letters Of
ns An ounce OF less 70 tWo cents and to abolish the
1Isnking privilege. N .-
qeesuon OF ofoef vas raised % TO its relevancy.
Inc CHAIRMAN ead that, In his opinion, the amend
ment Tes in order
viNTos took an appeal from the decisien Of the
CpHI, Unen wss reversed.
1ne Committee tnen rose ana under the operation
% tne pfev,ous quesuoh, the Dill making appropra-
ons of tne support OF the Postonoe Department was
passed IN. ..r
GOVERNMENT OF CALIFORNIA.