The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-02-14
TAIRrIRTa CONGRESS.
SECOND SESSION.
Senate.
WasHINQT

eus,ion of the negro question expected. Prayers.
Journal Of Saturday last. Petitions, resolutions, re-
ports, &c.
CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROPRIATIONS
the bill making the annual us for the sup
pert II the civil aud diplomatic departments OF the
government The amepdments reported from the
Committee Fipsnce.were read by Mr. Atherton, and
agreed 70 as in Committee OF the Whole.
One of the anne dments agreed to- as in COMMITTEE
Las to strike out the proviso OF the House which
abolishe, noesipg in the navy Mr.. Hale moved that
committee. He wished this psoviso retaiosd. which
directs that the Secretary of the Navy shall publish
anne pdment striking it out be not concurred In. He
appealed strongly for the extinguishment Of this
brutal practice Of foGgiD in the navy
Mr. BADGER d,s pD oyed Of the proposition to abolish
the punthment OF logging In the naval service. Uu-
sti If the navy in blood, and to punish the most
tr'ftpg eff noes with death, we must retain this
app,eheud ale led away by a mi'guided philanthropy.
Tee octrs OF the service opposed TO its abolition
and the best in the service do not desire to
this cri poreai punishment done away The praotioe
bad existed from the creation Of the navy, and any
charge contemplated ought to receive. at least the
most mature consideration Better reckless
extrsvsgarce twenty millions Of dollars than to abo
lkh practices so important to the dsciplns of the
servlee without that full deberatfon which tina
walton demands. The change proposed would bs
equal and unjust and iDcoDgruous in its operations,
point Of faos for while it directed order t. be
Issued aboishipg hogsng in the service 1t left a the
extt,r z laws still in force.
Mr. Hale, to obviate this last objection, moved to
strike cat the proviso ard to insert in lieu of it, Aud
force Authorship the punishment of logging In tho
navy, AID the same are hereby repealed.
Mr. hale saie this plea Of antiquity, In support of
this practice Of whipping the plea against every
reform Of every abuse In the world FROM che day: OF
Adam But a system which is hosry hesded-which
has hing but the cobwebs Of age to amend it
with bad grace for our support. The Senator
from North Carolina says we cannot abolish this
tce Mess wish to write the discipline of the
ferviee in letters of blood Why, Fir 1t Is only in let
tiers blood that this relic of barbarian and barbarity
4. yAaI h eioI fha ho
true Of the administered board the ships
Of the United STATES then. sir there Is stream of
from the first day Of January to the last day of De-
cembsr 1t is matter Of fact that this nishment
in one but in several instances Great as has bsen
the glory Of our navy, would give 1t up, H.
nent GO ID be o6literated There are other means OF
dscpline end obedience than this brutal practice OF
es ss ut n
with the aborsipes and 1t had succeeded beyond his
most ssnguine expectations Doubtless In the expert
me mt he laughed to scorn, under the idea that
only boo6shed and nsrume nts Of destruction could
be successful 1t high time that the sailors of
navy who're business it was to protect our commerce.
its opera ions in all quarters of the world
should b. exempted from this baroarous, degrading and
humanity We havs tried the syctem Of brutality and
degradation let us try that Of civilized ussge, and
see If the e,lor has not some;h ng of tbs common
feelings of man in bis bosom. He denied that ,ailors
desired this deersdston. He believed the officers OF
gent, but q generous body OF lnsn but where arb
trsry power was allo we'd would be abused and this
This oaious prsctos Of logging was we'll calculated to
produce mutiny and 1t was system 80 rspu'sive to
the feelings of man that it ought to produce mutiny
Mr. ATTENTION rsised a question Of order and after
rome conversation upon It. MIR Hale agreed to with
draw his motion strike ont and insert, until the
taken first simply on stirling out the pro-
Mr.. BApeKR persisted that unless the opponents Of
unnecessary and that the object OF discipline could
be obtained by other the proposition to abolish
because rhetorical defamation and sxaggerstion
calculated to do injury to tho character Of the ser
vice. He hoped the Senator from New Hampshirs
would reconsider and rstraot that expression that the
punishment Of fogeing ought to produce mutny. be
va. calculated to Encourage musiny, aud If mutiny
should grow out Of IT, the Senator might be held re-
to bis s for Ss ooS
only affect bad men in the service; the good and
were protected by the praotics' rather thas
MI HALE commended that there was no humanity in
the cat onne tails As to the truth Of his statements
he referred the official reports On board one Of
oops of there had been given in 90 daye
equal to ten la,hes day and allowing thirty ships
is.bss every day in the navy Of the United States.
This would make stream OF blood strong enough to H.
not mere idle defamation no. not idle defamation,
Mr. BgRnIEv-R Rhetorical defamation.
Mr.. HALE-They were not mere rhetorical decla-
nations And the Senator from North Carolina
@ ass to 90
produce mntiny. No. sir; one Of the arst doctrines
Shsh Learned vas tia, to y.snny !;
reach every sailor in every hold Of every ship of the
United States would thunder into bis ear that
sistance to tyranny 10 obedience to God. Mr.. Hale
maintained that neither the example Of the British
navy it. barbarous practice incorporated into
own would justify the continuance Of this arbitrary
pow er of corporal punishment.
Mr.. BUrLER-l s not the ropes end applied ~ pun
ishment in the merchant service!
Mr.. HALE--Yee, sir, and when We are done with
this y sepose to take hold Of that. He would not
now, ..sver go into details He regretted to see the
The House had acted but the Senate had not yet
heard the public voice. No mater this thing cannot
the people and they win cause emselves to be heard
Mr. YuLrr chairman on Naval Anairs) argued
one Of the public chips had pettioned against the
abolition Of logging; and that was the only petition
st,tuts could be proposed, noggins must be DON.
tinued; that it to dfscipline that it
was limited to the commander, and sufioiently re-
A SENAroR-But the commander can delegate the
power.
Mr.. YuLEE-No sir, he cannot delegate It. He 10
responsible, and must keep q record. 1t Is twelve
hes IN ordinary offences IL Is not by the cso'-
nps.ta,L but by the colt, ropes end He contend
ed that IL the Sc nator from New Hampshire would
~ out his philanthropy ne must extend to tbs msr
to sch oos and to families in all Of which
this practice Of Jogging prevailed Mr. Yulee caused
aleter the 5ecresry Of the Navy to be read,
the purport that It would be inexpediont to abollsh
hogsipg in the navy.
Mr. N,lrs-I desire few words, Mr.. President.
and would think that this was az attack on some
BILE inst utions will not peculiar
but valuable Institutions The Senator from North
Carolina has been rather warm for man so generally
COOL But, think, sir, It was Charles Wilkes who said
that the worst to which you can put man was TO
bang HIM and think the next worst is to fog him.
Gentlemen ask for for the abolition OF this
practice, give no reafons 1t Is for them to give
Ieafons In its defepce-Tessvns why IL should be con-
tinued But, sir If there be found reason for
sbohpg this barity shall have the alternative
aheishipg the navy itself If It cannot be sustained
without this relic Of barbarian lie desired the
ment TO keep pace With society; to try this humane
sxperme OF abolishing the whip and the lash and
~ failed as be knew could not fail then 1t would