New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1849-03-03
The Territorial Question.
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The substitute proposed By Mr. Preston OF va.
or the regular territorial bill being under consideration
0hs substitute proposed to create California aud New
Mexico into a stste)
Mr. GRIZZLY moved the following as an addi-
ionsl section thereto:
SIC Ind be (l,ter eraced That tho State coHstl1t-
by his sis Include all the territory lying essi Of ihs
Rio Drsnde, and embraced within the following boundass
wit Commencing a. tbs point In attn ie 'oy-.wo norh
nearest The Arkansas nver !herc following The course Of
The southern bank OF Tue said rver AfEensas uni iner-
seos the degree Il Longitude ore hundred weslom Loncon
and twenty three from Wsshington thence running By ine
due to the south bank Of Red rivers thence by direct
h Rio Grade ~ the point here the southern bcun
Diary OF New Mexico the thence srd
ly along the southern boundary Of NewM TO The south
wes corner thereof; thence norhw adly along the
boundary Of Mexico the norhwes hereof;
thence by direct line 10 the place OF beginning
Mr.. q. IN explanation said the amendment SIM
ply embraced the territory rs described In the original
bill reported from the Committee on the Territories
II embraced the territory OF NewM Mexico. He under
stood to be the objec. of the bill 10 form one State
out Of California and New Mexico.
Mr.. KAUFNAs wished to inquire of the gentle
man from Eew-York whether by the Introduction OF
the amendmen which he had offered. he wanted to
steal from Texas land enough for his Fourerte bill to
operate upon
Mr.. GREKLEY. ! do not think it becomes the
Representative from Texas to talk about land stealing
He proceeded TO say (but in voice scarcely audible
at the reporters desk that appeared TO him that with
out this amendment there clear surrender OF the
people OF New Mexico 10 the dominion OF Texas That
people asked TO BIO protected against the absurd
pretenslons of Texas; there was unanimty among
them in making this request It was enlnen,y neces
sary 10 order 20 prevent revolution and boodshed aud
wrong there that this territory should be included
within one jurisdiction the other they had protest
ed against the rule of Texas The bill virtually
deeed them TO that rule, by cutting of one portion OF
New Mexico and annexing it TO Caforns, and saying
nothing about the rect
BY doing this they would throw the responsibility
upon the incoming Administration Of saying whether
il would protect the people Of New Mexico or not.
That responsibility properly rested upon this Congress
The friends of the new Administration ought not to
consent 10 throw II of upon that Administration. II II
should take the side of Texas, 1t would ALLEVIATE the
whole people OF the Northern states and rice rcse and
il would Ia any event, caufe great embarrassment aud
trouble which should be avoided by the present Cen
gress doing s duty and coming up TO the decision of
this question. lie, them settle this question to whom
the responsibility of II belonged H. asked ths House
10 say by direct vote whether il intended 10 surren
der the people Of that part Of New Mexico TO the dom
nation Of Texas or nOtG The amendment which he
offered proposed 70 give them the protection OF The
State which they were constituting 10y this Dill.
Mr.. KAUFMAN asked for the reading OF the
amendment OF Mr. GRKELRy; which read lie
said he would ofisr amendment 10 that amendment
The CHAIRMAN reminded the gentleman that It
would 20 amendment in the third degree, and
therefore not Ia order
The question was taken on the amendment of
Mr. GREELEY 70 the amendment and Il was rejected
Ayes 30 Noes 90.
Subsequently, the California question having
been disposed Of the bill To establish Territorial Gov
eminent In New Mexico was taken up. The first sec
ton which defines the boundaries of New Mexico, be-
ing under consideration,
Mr.. ViNToN moved an amendment providing
that the provisions OF the bill shall affect any rights
of Texas 10 territory and for the purpose OF de
terminlng the boundary between Texas and New Mex
ico Texas Ia authorized 10 institute suit against the
United States Mr. VINToN briefly addressed the Com
initoe Ia Ok PLANTATION and support OF the amendment
Mr.. GREFLEY regarded the amendment as most
extraordinary proposition in all respects. This ques
tiOn Of boundary was more than mere quesuoh OF
law It was question OF liberty and OF rlsnt me
people OF New. Mexico were known To be strongly
submitting themselves TO the rule and authority
OF Texas. They had, at all times and under ali cTeu
stances resisted the jurisdiction of that state Ana
now IL proposed to send them before atrouha LOT
the decisionhe could hardly say of what question,
without looking at the resolutions of annexation
He looked al the facts The Government OF Texas,
separated from these people by 500 miles oil desert ana
wilderness peoplsd by Indians demanding luris-
dicton over them and on the other hand the people
OF New Mexico, separated from Texas, as they ever
had BEEN were demanding protection against this ea
of jurisdiction. He held that no people, unuer sueh
ought 10 be governed by any other 6u
thority than their own that instituted by themselves
II the claim OF oxas had any legal validity tne people
of New-MexicO had also rights under the uee'y oi
peace which we were solemnly bound 10 MAINTAIN -
The claim of Texas could hardly be maintained on the
ground of possesi0n that OF title acquired by con
quest for the of Texas never waved over the sou
an New. Mexico except Tor lew uuNs Nhth PnitJ
bearing /, was defeated and captured 10 the last man.
reaching their homes by route more circuisous than
any on which Congregational Mileage Is computed Inc
claim OF Texas nothing but iiseli-a mere pa
per declaration. .,
Under such state OF facts and with the Annexation
Resolutions declaring the boundary of Texas to be suo
ject to adjustment by this Government why moi meet
The question here For his part knowing mat Inc qnes
tion of Liberty slavery was Involved IN tne PROPOSE
ton and that the decision Of the supreme Court upon
il in favor OF the claim OF Texas would carry slavery
a. fhta xfIt'a n
England ne was unwilling 10 commit such question:
10 thar tribunal lie spoke Of that tribunal with al res
pect when he innaIed that majority oil the Judges
were Shareholders sustaining the right oil tnis Govern
ent 70 extend Slavery. Tie considered That me free
States should never consent 10 give up the decision OF
this question to a slave.hoding tribunal WY should
thew not choose 10 have Il settled here where their
power Is predominant .,,
nary proposition he had ever heard. IL was virtually
snnul the Government OF New.MSNlco'
and TO surrender her people 70 the sutnors OF ioN
provided those Slaveholding Judges should ssy So nc
objected 10 any action Of Congress recognising any
ground of claim by Texas to jurisdiction when enc
rad never yet established IL she had the rlsht iet not
send In her officers aud endoavor TO extend ner laws
over Ina, terrtorty thus bringing the question naur
aly before the Supreme Court Tie protested AZ Ans'
ANY action here calculated to create any imphcson OF
OF the existence oil thst fshh Htne houso
were 10 adopt the amendment II would oe tsAen IS
strong Implication that Texas was emitted 10 the Jus
dction claimed which he could not Tor mon-h'
admit -, ,.s a..
m the mover OF the amendment would 60 modify nis
proposition as to refer the question OF Jurisdiction 70
he decision Of the people OF New Mexico, ne "ou'u
.gres toi, That would 81 to settle the question upon
,enublcan principle Bat TO throw the decision en-
Iirey upon the Supreme Court would be 10 regard
he.e nlope as though they nothing more than 90
many mules or bufIaioes; il would be making HSSs
lsr II Them under cover OF the authority OF the gu
n,n,e Conf ana against their wishes to the snihor
ties OF Texas.
C.sv OF Dr.. HARDENBROoX.-Previo 10 'ne
coatin ustion Of the summoang up. on iuesusy, 'ne
prosecution desired 70 introduce sddiions tesr
uony from Witnesses no had recently arrived 10 NO
chester. some Of lection made, but the Court De
cded 10 hear IN evidence The object OF It's iutoduc'
ton 10 support the inference thst mere hsa 90
undue ntsr-ourse between Mrs Nois and the accused
The facts elected were osly that, on the evening OF
Thsaksgyin dsy Mrs. Mott and Dr. Hardenorook were
among tie company assembled AT the femals seminary