The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-02-22


ness his purIos in introducing 'n,S .omothipa Of
-, ~ ,tsrisn and tefer he had introduced tnis
snrneu. RI he had read the a'nnd.nsyt ~. Ia
$50 tht sr an srgunent against its adop ion but
not ,r.ip,t the legality Of the Amenament' LOOK ~
ns I II, With prcrristy bill to erect ne. Wing
~ the Patent Ofhce;" or "A bill to Distribute
stssr titles All Of them would BE- appropriate
tites He had selected these items, not because they
singular but Dsos NtSsr ob;.sts to be
pIiihed by this bill. The remark that this amenamens
" Dsruous to the object Of the bill, was not
sound ss spoint of order. Senators, they were op
rose to this measure, could find many wsysto vote
Against IT, but reason could be argued against on
s nslsh a. we'll as the practice Of the Senate all
sapctioned the order Of this amendment. Anotner
sssson was that Indications all round Ihim for Sc
.sssps, DAYS showed what would be the fate of Mr.
Dour..s bill and now 1t was evident, that the only
ohshoe for the territory S Sr
fory He would not attempt TO coerce tne oene novso
by forcing to adopt this OF relset TINS
-onId "a ,thdra~ his amendment, or vote for reced.
iry from Il Again he would nov, II he understood
the general snse OF the senase - Hp sotsS
,t..I, ,rc IN desire to meet theluniverssl want and
demand of the country.
TIE SsDstor or Legislative address, in In
trodu cipg his amendment. He would never chsrge
~ iulr.per motives in introducing TINS
an~pdrneut He then gave sketch Of the progress OF
the Senate on subject of the territories and their
overr me MT and hoped that the Senate would not
sny such pro position in its present shape
He pronou ced this mode Of legislation - dangerous
inappropriate, ana inoepsIaoos. ,... N. a.,,,;on
OF the chair correct but he appealed TO DIS riend
from Tennessee to Withdraw his proposition; IL was
all admitted but that was in order ne
had NO doubt If the Senator would withdraw 1t, let
this appropriation bill be passed, and he INF
D. en-, oon upite in any effort to take up the o,
Sdng in the Senate providing for territorial
government ,,ah;.
amenomept not stsinvolved in the present question
Of order They were very different
Mr BADGER asked what WA the question now pend
nr and beiug informed moved that the last appeal De
laio ON the table.
last sppes war laid the table; and on motion tne
second appeal was also laid on the table
MIR DAYroN ssksd that the Senator from Tennessee
VIII craw his po,itop, and let us act on the civil
sr6 oplomatic bill, and then aer that bill is disposed
Of by general consent We can take up the Ga.osn lorna
M .pd TIVE sens,srs nrop"s'''0n WIN !" lie hop'a
40, Sr 40 issti Los Calfor MIA hill was disposed
Of he thought the civil and dipomac bill and other
pubi hill. could be proceeded with, with far greater
s.snatc CHI than otherwise He would, If 1t could be
ss1sed upon. upspin ously take up the California
bill; after this disposed ef he would then WITH
draw his amen dment otherwiie not
MIR A1HERroN raid, that when the question OF order
was ,as.d, heLtbought Il was question OF con.
House they rules Of order to protect their appro
pration bills In the Senst. they had NO sucn rules
and it was always principle of courtesy and oonsis-
teney in the action Of Senate to conform nearly
~ possi the rules of the House OF Representatives
II The S. acted otherwise, and insisted upon On
rrafTi1r upon these appropriation bills amendments
OF every description, the utmost danger would result
The Sc nate might add to The civil and diplomatic bill
declaration Of war might compel the other house
either in that declaration or defeat the appro.
rrlfion bill or they might insert the proviso known
q, he Wimot proyiso place the passage of the bill
mon that proyiso he hoped that this prin
81 e of conrteby and consistency would be adhered
TO- In Justice to the other He would
this bill allowed to pass, to take up the California
bill, and proceed with it. NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS.,
frrn h0 m
" ante With Others to defeat the civil and diplomatic
bill if that necessary to secure provision
for q government in California. However, ne urged
upon the Senator from Tennessee the proprety and
sxresiency of Withdrawing his amendment as it
was new ss@ Ca;tnyn. hin would be taken up
Mr. YvLEr would make no concession with respect
to the California bill He, for one, would not agree TO
take IL up at any time
Mr. BsI1 said he was aware that to surrender the
amepdmsn Mt now would be, probably, to lose its con-
alteration altogether at this session a friend sug.
Reets tn at in the meantime give way, till some small
amendments disposed Of but sir, would prefer to
COON now. A.. A.. u
some email anne dime nts to be submitted, that they
may be printed for the information of the Senate.
Mr.. KING j hope the Senator fsom Tennessee will
60 on. ".
said he not surprised at the obstructons thrown
in his way He had expected them; and, from first
Of the Session, from tHe diversity Of views enter
tanned by gentlemen, he did not know tina: any
thing could be done. However long and studiousy
we sy de bate this question, am still apprehensiv
that our deliberations may be all In vain But the
question IL before the country and it Is before
shal have to make the struggle, and obliged
from the highest pubic combinations TO take TINS
serious Of the nited State,
himself has strongly urged upon the Senate the pro
Iriety ard 81 If tSs.r terror ri.
tories for time thereafter the necessity FORA
permanent government, or OF some effective civ tenn
porary regulations, not so apparent California
vas sparsely inhabited emigrants were going In only
Gradually; and the military authorities were sufficient
49, tvhf NJ . hap
pe Az their property But of late the urgency FOR 60
vernmen mt has augmented beyond any parallel Tne
81 sISs N Of
ers into California. Without law, therefore, there
vn reason to fear the horrors OF oscord' ana ana
important as were these considerations, he did
not consider them absolutely imperative. MIR
the future even for few days and could see no
action upon this subject which would be mai ana yet
pDsatifscory he would regret the agitation of the
occur any disastrous and disorders con-
tinus In that country! II there were prooaoiity
country, and to the property and condition OF the
people then there q necessity for action other
vine we might eafely delay action on the question
He pld briefly examine the question of danger IL
by Inc sovoca e. OF delay thet although there
few lawless characters, yet they say there Is
large portion OF the population wnicn discreet and
orderly, and thess latter will be able to defend them
selves ard the public interests IL further argue
that rs in Oregon, in case We DO not thus give
government, the people will erect provis onai govern
mept and defend Themselves. He denied the sound |
Bees Of this argument He thought there was dan
ger that there people If left to Themselves, would de-
clare them selves sovereign and independent State
His reading and his experience taught him that when
any country ext -nded her territorial limits beyond
abe then that country failed In legisa-
ting and governing wisely. He was not convert to
the doctrine that no matter how vide extent Of
territory the government could safely and as wisely
provide for and govern them He saw nothing what.
strange improbable In the idea that these
pie, Of blood race, feelings, desires and inchna
lions settled residing in the confines Of our terri
tories, should raise up and declare themselves aos
and competent TO govern Themselves; to throw oil
their allegiance to the United States. Nor was ne
prepared TO that 1t would not be as well for them
70 DO 20 that they would not be as wisely and as
Weh governed as regards their federatve head, by
8ovtrnmen MT situated the Pacific, as by capital
situated In the Atlantic States 1000 miles from them.
Again, IT was urged by those in favor Of delay that
mastery inactivity on this question-a non sgita.
ten OF the subje;t-spd the difficulties now existing
in The way Of estahiihhILR