The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-09-28


tscls inert the words who shall ss ssumuuios.ts
end etriks the words or more" snd insert the
words ssd not more than three"
The Rev. DR.. viHroS. a. the chairman Of the
pittse 10 whom wss referred tho proposed alteration
which had been read. give only statsmsnt Of
the queson. res~rvng to himself the liberty u speak
Ing It tbs end Of the Sseats necessity required It,
con.ideration be postponed until they had bi-hop
acting in the diocss. He believed that the church
would be partled In the attempt and he wished that
time should be taken to consider II; there
who would doubtless cay sy" to the alteration A.
cobscieutiously a. he would FAY mo" They
returning he trusted to she old channel and let them
not be pressed to organic. radical changes whils the
sitting ss erssbvtsrisp Sodv and he asked Tor an In
stance whse articles Of such nature had
been decided BY such council Much had been said
Of spiritual Influences but when would thew be 50 likely
to have the spiritual when they had their spi
ritual hrsd' He therefore called thsm not to
left but leave 1t to future consideration. Truth Is
the daughter Of time, and they would lose nothing sy
Mr. Vrrrou said they should decide it now or begin
II de moro
The CHAIRMAN Of opinion that tho motion to
postpone IL to the period when they have bishop
at their head would be TO postpone 1t to an indefinite
period
Mr. BRApusH gave It a. HIS opinion that motion to
postpone for time certain IL inconsistent With
the provision of the oonstitu tion II sesmsd 10 him
that the motion was In order: The Rev gentleman
had introduced time. and therefore, 1t Is not mo-
ton to postpone indefinitely.
Mr. VInros thought it out of order.
had for YEARS and years only he would be ashamed to
fay how many laughter)- accustomed to the rules
ard orders Of legislative bodies and he (Nr would
jpst think of disputpg the opn Of the REQ
ter Of Grace Church. theological point as Mr.
Bradth on one OF order But hs would nov move 70
teDd the consideration Of this suhsct to committee
The CHAIRMAN withdrew his opinion and the Rev.
Mr. VAN KLtEoK moved his resolution: That the fur
Their consideration Of the subject be- postponed until
there b- bishop presiding In tho convention
Mir VrNroS sad, II this motion passed, 1t would de-
Rev Mr. BAloH observed that the gentlemen In that
part of the house quite in tho dark rs to what
Ifthe gentlemen in the aisle would take
tbose in the would bs able to see, at all
events what wa. going on daughter
Mr. ViNroN said II this were passed it would De only
. way Of sbirkipg the question. Would gentlemen DO
good enough to point when they would have
bibop presiding in that chair! He would not enter
into the merits until motion made.
AT little before o'clock 1t moved, " That the
meeting adjourn Till O'Clock in the evening" but tho
motion WAS nrRahved by large majority
The Rev Mr. PARDEE. In agreeing with the opinion
Of Doctor Vntou. said there nothing for him to
contend with. rs the arguments were all on one side
geDtl. men Who opposed to them take the GROUND
that this convention In secular bsdy implicit
had been sent him. purporting bs wrttss by
who taid be hsd grown grey in tho service of the
church he did not know whoit from; but 1t WAS
such pamphlet as . bishop would address Co bis
presbyter.
the question are net available.
coed.
Mr. PARpEx contnued-In that pamphlet 1t was
uai body and that the Diocesan Convention Is la
position to that body but he would that the do
Of the must be sent to every
diocesan convention He maintain that theirs Vas
spiritual body; they had the power to try clergy
man; and. Furthermore had they not the power Of
electiSE bishop! And bi-bop canaot admit single
individual into that community without the consent
of that body; it Is spiritual body though they ssd
the Gt neral Convention hsd to deal with tenn
| poYsl matters Mr.. esrdee said he unable then
to so any further. as he had become hosrss from
having to speak so loud and he begged an ADJOURN
I ant To In Va VII d.
| ipely took place.
! in the evening at o'clock, Mr. PARprE concluded
bis observations in support OF the resolution, amend
I'd by the committee. and was followed BY
MIR. JOHN JAY who. at considerable length, opposed
the motion which would exclude the noncommuning
laymen.
Mr. srrrcrn. In giving his opinion this subjsct-
subject to which he had devoted much time aud re-
fection- rspudated the idea which bad fallen from
Reverend gentleman to day that the ppstponemeut Of
! the motion was merely made with view to shirk"
the matter altogether he could not agree With the
solution 8 amended by the committ-e-it un.
church, like iDexpedisn injurious 10 the merit peace
and success Of the church The Hon gentleman gave
belief and of he church and forciby declared
that there necessity for this innovation this
novelty of excluding the laty for there fear OF
the upbaptxed or the innd~l comug here delegates
The Rev D, y,sros replied In the eonr.e Of hi.
be raid that he to that
tho opinion Of Ike Bishop confirmed his own, upon
which.
man bad no right to quote or introduce the opinion
the diecpsan
Inc nhvlrR declueu that VI. Nlnton WA
In srder. he preceded with his address
Mr. w. kE1cHsM next addressed the meeting; but
from TIE general cry of Question, In consequence OF
the lateDess Of the hour he was inatentivey heard
There vas q general cry If Question " aud MIR Wv
faid IL would he understood that the potponemen
of q decision on this question would defeat It
The Rev Dr IIrSR, sad IL was not so understood
and he tosk IL that the allegation OF the Rev gen
man not true
Tn. then taken, aud the motion for post
porement Of the question carried by u large ms
jority, adjourned at quarter past IL o'clock, to
O'Clock this morning