The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1849-03-25

II was now ~ O'Clock, and the Senate was addressed
~Mr WEBSTER. We are in condition, sir, some.
what peculia 1t behOoyes MS TO turn our attention from
these small matters OF Justice to individuals, which may
be attended TO another me and consider the position
in which we are, the Senate OF the United States at
very late hour of the last day of the session An import
ant BILL connected with the financial administration OF
the government which, for sixty years, has never failed
10 be passed in tme to provide the means for carrying on
the governmental affairs, is now undisposed Of wish
only say sir after much consideration of the subject,
without The least doubt or hesation that am OF opinion
that the OF this house commenced the III rd
day of March, 1919, in the morning, and lasts until this
house votes adjournment The Senate knows moth
ing OF clocks, horology, time keeping OF any sort
the sitting and the sitting Of the Sd OF March terminates
by vote to adiourn Sir, beg pardon for saying these
things at this tme but wish to suggest to the Senate
that we are in a crisis of some Importance.
Mr. FOOTE. L believe, sir, that every member OF
this body has high respect for the judgment of the hon
orabe senator from Massachusetts, butt thus we can
not all agree with him My opinion is, sir that
are bound to ascertain the progress OF time
An Executive message was here received; and, on mo-
ton the Senate proceeded to the consideration OF execu
tive business and after time spent therein, the
doors were, at IS minutes before o'clock, reopened
CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROPRIATION BILL.
A message received from the House OF Represent
ayes announcing that said House had concured in the
Sad amendment OF the Senate the bill making appro-
priatons for the civil and diplomatic expenses of the
government for the year ending June 80, $780, with an
amendment in which they asked the concurrence of the
ment to the other amendments of the Senate
[NorE-The SD amendment referred TO the pro-
vision relative to a government for California.
The Senate proceeded TO consider the amendment OF
the House OF Representatives 10 the SD amendment of
the Senate to the bill making appropriations for the civil
and diplomatic expenses of the government for the year
ending the 30h OF June, 1850.
Mr. WEBSTER moved that the Senate concur and
called for the yeas and nays.
Mr.. HUNTER moved that the Senate adhere.
Mr.. MASON moved to strike out the second section
OF the amendment, which provides that until the 4th OF
July 1885, unless Congress shall provide, the
is'ng lays in i Mex Mexico shall continue in force
Mr. WEBSTER remarked that the motion to concur
was under consideration.
Mr. WESrCOrT | find in the Manual the follow
ing
"A motion to amend an amendment from the other
house takes precedence Of motion agree disagree
read it TO show that the motion of the senator from
Virginia Mr.. MAsoNl is entirely correct
Mr. MASON. That s amendment offered By the
House OF Representatives to the consideration of the SEN
ate do not know that may not be going beyond the
privileges OF parliamentary law. but take it for granted
that have right to amend that amendment. move
10 amend it by striking ont the second section.
Mr. WEBSTER May address the Senate upon the
point of ode say, sir that the onlyquestion that can
now be taken upon the motion The Senate
has made amendment TO bill from the House. The
House has amended our amendment. There cannot be
amendment of an amendment TO amendments that
is quite clear Now sir, the only question is, whether
we shall agree or concur in the amendment of the
other house TO the amendment of the Senate That is
exactly where we stand
be decided by the Chair without debate question Of
order is not debatabe.
Mr.. WEBSTER | do not so understand it. Where
do you find such rnle'
Mr.. HUNTER understand it to be a rule OF parlia
mentary law.
Mr. WEBSTER Nothing like it. We have some
times said that appeals should be decided without debate
But as to deciding question of order without debate
there Is such rule put the question to the Chair
whether there can be any amendment of an amendment
Mr. HUNTER That is not debatable
The PRESIDENT stated that the only question before
the Senate was the question upon agreeing with the
amendment of the House.
Mr.. DICKINSON. Allow me 10 read from page $50 OF
the Manual
"a bill originating in house, is passed by the other
with an amendment. The originating house agrees TO
their amendment with amendment The other may
agree to their amendment with amendment, that being
only in the and the third degree For the
amending house, the first amendment with which they
passed the bill is part of its text it the only text they
mating house, therefore, is only the first degree and the
amendment to that again by the amending house is only in
the second, to wit: amendment amendment ant'
admissible"
Mr., DOWNS inquired whether the Chair decided the
question to be upon the amendment by the senator from
Mr.. DAYTON The Chair has decided that the only
question belt 49, of concurrence or concurrence
That was the decision of the Chair, and appeal
taken.
Mr. DOWNS will take that appeal
Mr. DAYTON. 1t is too late. The appeal was not
taken at the time of the decision
the second section.
Mr. DAYTON. | beg to suggest that the motion can
not be in ORDER for whenNthe motion made BEFORE
the Chair decided to be of order, and that the only
question was of concurrence concurrence. Can
the senator from Virginia rise his place and his
motion? Certainly not.
Mr. FOOrE remarked that il was a matter of indif-
ference what was DONE but STILL if question was to be
put he was ready to vote upon it; and inquired what
the question was
The PRESIDENT stated the question to be upon con-
O House
MIR. MASON move to strike out the second section
OF that amendment
The PRESIDENT. That motion is not in order.
Mr.. MASON. ! appeal from the judgment Of the
Char and call for the yeas and nays upon that appeal
Mr.. KING. | mvery sorry that this has been the re-
suit believed that IT was perfectly in order to make the
amendment, but hoped that the senator from Virginia
would not offer his amendment. Here is the rule
"A bill originating House passed by the other
WIN an amendment. The originating House agrees to
meir amendment with endment. The other may
agree to their amendment with amendment that being
only IN the second and not the third degree for tn
amending House, the first amendment with which they
passed the bill Of its only
nave agreed 10. The amendment by the origi-
mating House, therefore, only the first degree and the
amendment 10 that again by the amending House is only
III me second, TO wit: an amendment amendment,
and so admissible y
NOW, can anything be more plain Is If possible that
There doubt that the from Virginia has right
70 oher his amendment the amendment of the House
nope the Presiding Officer will the proprety of
'erslng his decision
The PRESIDENT stated the question to be upon the
appeal
Mr.. DICKINSON inquired whether, if the question
was akeh upon agreeing, and the amendment either
agreed 10 or disagreed TO- il would la in order then TO
move an amendment
Mr. WEBSTER and others No. certainly not
Senate