The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1849-12-19

members OF committee and Tor the chairman OF that
rule that forbds from voting for as many chamen as
you please Designating the individual for each chair
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair has meyer had
Of the opinion that the limitations thrown out BY the
gentleman from North Carolina viz; that the motion re-
qures unanimous consent, are correct
Mr. MANGUM Mr.. President will remark that
upon examining the rule am satisfied with the con-
sucton which the senator from Georgia has given viz
that il does not require unanimous consent
Mr. HALE Mr. President, the rule is that in the ap.
pointment OF the standing committees we shall proceed
BY ballot sspsray to do WHAT To appoint the eha'rnen
Of copmitees No. sir; that is not the rule i is that
the elarmsn Of all the committees generally, but the
chairman OF each committee separately
do not wish to stand here to argue question OF
q o. EagsSn n into Da anvbns
else than what it says, have nothing more to say
have the vanity to think that could adduce anything
Fl sp an e s
committee means 10 choose the chaImen OF the COM
mittees in lump, rules and constitutions are not worth
e Sc Of
unadvised as to the construction OF this rule heretofore
but the impression Of the Chair s that requires sepa
rate vote for the chairman OF each committee
COMMITTEE FINANCE.
The VICE PRESIDENT requested senator's to pre-
pare their ballots for chairman Of the Committee on Fl
MIR. BRIGHT remarked that he thought the objections
by the senator from North Carolina reading the names
OF the nominations Tor chairmen. II there were any
names which the senator from New Hampshire objected
voted for by ballot The names objected TO could
then be taken up. and disposed Of by ballot
No response being made 70 this suggestion the ballot
Whole number OF votes cast, As; OF which
Mr.. Dickinson received ~
Davis, Of Massachusetts, 4
Nj; DIckssos having received majority Of the be
chairman OF the Committee on Finance.
COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE.
The senators proceeded to prepare their ballots for
chairman OF the Committee on Commerce
Mr.. CHASE. would state that think the existing
difficulty might be obyated by the extension OF what
believe to be the ordinary courtesy due from senators to
senaors-in this as well in any other Gentle
upon this floor have chosen to divide themselves into
two party organizations These gentlemen, divided,
have thought iii not to recognise certain other gentlemen
upon this floor entitled 10 be cassed with either
the other OF these organizations Perhaps some gen.
either of these organizations Now sir, if gentlemen
here think I'll not to arrange certain senators with one
the other OF these organizations, or u senator's them
selves do not choose TO be arranged is it not perfectly
obvious that due to- those senators either arranged
not arranging themselves that they shall have The
opportunity TO consider in regard to the choice Of
chamen OF the committees OF this body every other
genileman--the same and no oheri When, therefore,
the senator from New Hampshire proposed not to insist
upon his objection, il the Senate would consent that
there should be posponement OF this matter until to-
morrow, and until senators upon this floor, standing
somewhat in the same position himself should have
opportunity to look al this list, seemed to me that
once. And if that be conceded, trust that upon
this ntimaton the Senate will agree that the further
sideraon of this subject shall be postponed till
row, and then the whole thing can be done in avery little
time
COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE
The Senators proceeded to ballot for chairman OF the
Committee on Commerce, with the following result. viz
Whole number of votes cast, 43; of which
Mr.. Hamin received 80
Davis OF Massachusetts,
Mr. HAMIIk having received a majority Of the whole
Mr. MASON. MIR President, my attention has been
called the rule under which we now acting, by
gentleman much more competent to interpret the rule
it. The object of the rule not that the Senate, in
separating the chairmen from the committees, should elect
each of these chairmen separately but only separately
from the other members OF the committees think that
the Senate will see no objection to proceeding to elect
al The he ' VICE PRESIDENT r. Chair has already
decided that they should be elected separately.
Mr. MASON. l beg pardon. l was not aware (having
been absent that decision had been made upon the
Mr.. DICKINSON did not understand that the Chair
had decided the question upon any motion.
Mr.. MASON then read the rule as follows:
"In the appointment OF the standing committees, the
Senate will proceed, by ballot seveav 10 appoint the
chairman Of each committee, and then by ballot the
other members necessary to complete the same" &c.
In order to bring the question before the Senate Mr. NJ
appealed from the decision Of the Chair
The VICE PRESIDENT stated the question on the
ap peal from the decisonof the Chair.
Mr. MANGUM. | hope the honorable senator from
Virginia will withdraw his appeal. l exceedingly
reluctant TO override decision Of the Chair upon any
occasion; and think that this thing may be obvaied
in different way. II gentlemen persist in course that
has hitherto never been adopted within my knowledge
ton OF the residue of the chairmen OF the committees
until TO. In the time will offer resolu.
ton, and let lie over, either suspendng reyokng
this rule pro hae vice II the OF the body be that
we proceed have hitherto DONE vote for the
chairmen of the committees on to-m morrow.
Mr. FOOTE. Mr. President, do not rise 10 discuss
this question: insist that the appeal from the de-
cison shall be insisted upon withdrawn rise to re.
ply very respectfully to the suggestion Of the senator
IRON North Carolina Just madeD The delay will be i'm
proper under the circumstances my opinion. Il strikes
respect-not to gentlemen am not speaking OF them
personallybut little respect for sort OF oppo-
sition wholly unexpected and which must be permitted
10 characterize unreasonable, and certainly somewhat
discourteous towards the Senate am for fighting out
the battle. now that we engaged in IT,
Mr.. MANGUM. am content, il such be the will Of
the Senate.
Mr. DOUGLAS Think that il is safe 10 preserve our
rules, even at the sacrifice OF our own convenience
strucon OF the senator from Virginia to the rule but
must say that think the decision OF the Chair is right
and the appeal persisted In shall certainly vote for
sustaining the decision of the Chair And, further,
think thai il would be unwse suspend our rules sim
ply for the purpose OF saving oursevesan hours labor