The New York herald., 1849-02-22
IMPORTANT DEBATE 0, CALIFORNIA.
THIRTIETH CONGRESS-.
SECOND SESSION.


THIRTIETH CONGRESS-.
SECOND SESSION.
Senate.
WAsHIsaroN, February 20, 18l0
AFTER the disposition Of bucket full of abolition
petitions presented by Mr Hale; and other petitions
for railroad contract to San Francisco from Point
an inquiry into the the capacities of ssctrioity
moving power OF machinery the application OF DR.
rsge which was referred, on Mr.. Bentons motion, to
select COMMITTEES Of seven and after various rspors
inquiries, and resolutions, tho bill Of
CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPRoPRIATIoNs,
On motion OF Mr. ATHERroN, WAS resumed. A thu
unfinished business of yesterday.
CALIFORNIA STEPPING IN FOR HEARING.
Mr. WALxKR, OF Wisconsin, rose and said lthat he
had an anne hdment to eer and proceeded speak Of
the necessity for some provision by law for govern
ment OF the new territories snd Of the object which
ne had IN view In the amendment which he proposed
tosubm Of providing for the bsnsnt
OF the people left without protection in the territories
MIR. ArHERroN rose to question Of order He did
NOT this proposition appropriate to the sppro
MIR. Foorx explained, that this amendment was
similar In its object to tho which he had himself
proposed yesterday.
MIR. ATHERror thought the amendment objection
able and would make mis- objection now. He desired
the Chair to decide whether the amendment was, or
was not, In order.
order.
Mr.. ArHEnroN stated his point. The amendment
was hot germsine to the bill 1t would bs much in
order to submit an amendment for the admission Of Q
State into the Union, a. it would be to receive this
the establishment of territorial govern
ment, as q part Of one of the appropriation bills
The CHAM decided the amendment Of MIR. Walker To
be in order.
Mr. HALE-Let US have the amendment
At this stage Of the game, r Douglass was seen to
be moving industrionsy among the Senators, apps
renty giving notice to his friends that the time hsd
now come, and that this was the msuouyrs ueon
which California was to be carried through Congress.
Ihe Senate we're very sensible he was awake st once
to the Importance Of the subject.
Mr. WALkER said that he prcpoeed to amend the bill
provision thst the President Of the United States
Az neeoiu rules and regulations regulstns
he collection OF the revenue oonformsole to ths
sutop In the territory Of Cafor nis and to appoint
all officers necessary to carry into execution In that
territory tho revenue laws OF the United States He
Iooksd with great anxiety to the action of
ieston to The territoriss He desired to do nothing
in conflict with the of the Ser stor from M muos
sr DougsssJ who had done a In his DO var 70 ssts.
bli.h q government in California; but nothing had
been done, and the session Wa, drawing to close He
therefore, In despair OF getting any municipal rsgu-
autns asked that the laws, least, be put
in force there, and leave the establishment Of maai
ciphi regulations to the people themselves From his
State from Pennsylvania aud other States vast num-
bere OF persons had gone that ntry and he felt
tho utmost desire that sousthng should be done for
them and that they might De their lives and
property by, at least portion OF the laws Of this
country His motive Was good one; Of that he felt
certain whatever might be said Of 1t here
His only object snd motve VAS to benefit the settlers
aLd reeidents OF that country
The amendment, rs modified. was here road.
MIR. BELL rose and said that he had an sme mt
TO the anne ndmeDt to propose, and said that he in
tended TO express his views pretty much at isrys
Mr.. AIchsoN des'red an expression by the Chair on
the question Of order
MI. BELL aware that he would trespass on the
patie Of his re nds both sides of the chamber BY
his amendme nt and his remarks thereon but this
the only opportunity he would have to express his
views ON this interesting subject He would send his
anne ebdme mt to the Chair, to be read.
After the reading u the anne ndnent.
Mr. Be1LER asked whether the Chair had decided
the question OF order How could they prepared
appropriation ti for vote the admission OF the
State In the Y MON!
The CHAM said, in bis opinion the apendmsnt was
IN oIder but he would be glad If there would be sp
peal taken
MIR HALE-I appeal. si-.
MIR WEBsTEE-i would ask II a motion to lay the
0nt ndment CD the table be in order
sEvEKAL SKNATous-r That will take the bill with Il.
The CHAIR Such a motion oaanot be uads, ss the
Senator from Tennessee is on the floor.
Mr. BELL was about proceeding, when
Mr.. BuTLEn ssked for the question on the point Of
oroer lie would however Withdraw his point sf ord &C.
| MIR BERhIEN-How can the Senator from South Co
roliDa withdraw bs point Of order when appeal
been taken! think not
MIR. BUTLER Does the Sc ator from Nav Hampshir<
with draw HE appeal?
Mr.. HALE-No cir; appeal from the decision Of ths
Char and do not withdraw it.
Tie CHAIR The Senator from South Carolina hss
rebt to withdraw his point Of order after the
MIR. HALE-Tben, sir, 1 appeal from that decision
alto
Mr. CALHouN--what is the question,
The CHAIR-lt 10 upon the decision Of the Chair.
Mr.. CALHoUS-I do not intend to discuss the Quss-
ton at length; but ought have some principe -
govern US in eur action upon any bill Mr. jefferson
the proprety Of notion t belongs to the Sep ta
decide upon It appeal to the Senate, that II there
ever was . csee of moor pgroty, tbis s one
Mr. BtLL-The Senator Is not In order unless thsss Q
is an appeal
Mr.. BvrLKR- There is an appeal.
Mr. Y1LEE-Tbere is appeal
gruity this IL one. ~ '-S'~
Mr. BgLL-Tbe Senator is not discussing thu snosai
His remarks are not In order.
Mr. CALHOUN The Senator misu uderstsuds me- 7
was speaking to The appeal Mr. Jefferson lays IL down
hat ~ han tha hair N ot AaciA.
OF order 1t b competent for the Senate deoids upoa
It, This amendment is incongruous, and sntirsly out
Of place.
MIR BELL contended that any amen dmsnt even {,
the entire changing of the original bill wholly df
ferept measure, was entirely in order. This was
broad and valuable principle recognised In every L.
gelative body
Mr.. CALHour insisted that upon an inter ooistion
like this the Chair could not decide seaiust it
account Of Its inconeruty 1t was pstsns the
Senate to reject IT, irrelevant the Object the bill
To entertain the proposition would be . waste Of tms
The appropriation bill itself may be lost; or BY bei M
adhered TO- Senators may be coerosd to vote for this
ipconaruous smsndme In order to save the bill He
hoped the Senate would reject 1t.
Mr. PHELPs-I desire to understan nd the question.
question before the Senatel
Mr. BUrLER-Wbat In the qusstionf
Mr. PHELrs explained the two points Of appeal before
the Senate, as be understood them.
Mr.. BUTLER said the question Was upon the nrst
melton.
Mr. PHELPS considered the decision Of the Chair 10
be erroneous. "
=, " icLsH s.stou the question II It's progress, ahA
then seid a. the senator from South Crrolns hes
newed h point Of order and the last appeal therefore
islls the question now H. whether the amendment 10
In order.
Mr. HALE denied the right of the Senator from South
Carolina to renew or withdraw his point Of order. He
cited decision Of the last session. where the Woe Pre-
edent had decided that IL not out Of order 70 In
troducs bill for bis own amusement That deestoa
bad been sustained by the Senate He denied the
right Of The Senator of South Carolina to renew his
point Of order, and take away his INF Hs) last sp-
peal
Mr. BELL said that before he had DONE not Sena-
toe on the deor but would b. satisfied with the single