The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-02-14


the Of fervee had proved to Be the
most efficient for diacpl He was opposed there
fore to the anne and he would call for the ayes
and hoped the enate would give strong vote
against this Ill timed innovation. :.
Mr. Hale The Senator calls for strong vote for
the ost.o'Dne tails Aud he asks the yeas aDd nays
Why, sir, have called for them long ago. He may
rally stropR host to support HIM but promise you
that shall rally . much stronger one. 'rhs days OF
the cat nine tails have gone BY In 40 their funeral
viii BE- preached, and monument erected with the in
HERE LIES !; !, rHr LAST
cAr-o'NrSKrAILs.
Mr.. HAZE argued that it too late in the day to
present the examples of the British government for
our administration OF punishments We can have no
They have their admras Of the blue and the red and
they enough but the Anticipated abuses Of the
hear senators talk. ono would think sailors had
not the feelings OF men-that they had 40 mothers,
they were the ncsrnats bends Of he'll and as If there
were no other way Of making them feel than by the
cat nine tails In contrast with this idea Mr. ale
referred to court martial at which he present in
which naval officer had declared that never should
man be struck with the lash board his ship, and he
loved that ficer for that declaration.
MIR. YuLEE- Did that officer command . ship!
Mr.. HALE-Yes sir. many Of them.
Mr. YuLEE thought there must be some mistake
MIR HALE said be could give the name, If it were
proper to do so (Voices-" Che Nance" the name y
Mr.. YuLEE asked for the name
MIR Hale declined to give it. The ofnssr had made
the declaration at a court martial n. which he (Mr,
HaIt) had taken the OF adv0cao and ne
felt himself bound net to disclose the on SERBS
regarded the extent of the foggngs in the navy he
believed that ell had not heen teld There was gen.
tleman here from New York (Mr. Watson G Hsines)
with mum erous petitions for the abolition Of logging,
and IF may credit his statements there have been
not emily eco, but 800 leshes administered board
single ship In = single cruise
Mir YuLkE- If the Senator will allow me- viii show
what confidence is to be placed In this man.
Mir HALE-Atter am done. | do not know what
con fdeDce ia to he placed In him. He only intro
duceo to me the other days bat he brought with him
ported told the man that the House had do ne their
part but that the Senate would DO too busy just now
to ate nd to any thing Of this kind (Ha ma. ha) 1t
was too small matter just st this time In contnua-
ton, Mr. Hale cited the Of John Heron convicted
Of snsleughter in the Mediterra md sentenced
to eco sshts 400 Of which inisered as proof
that the laws OF Limitation disregarded board
chip, and that the punishment was at the arbitrary
dictstion Of a commander or q court martial.
Mr. YuLEE remarked that the only nstition on thi.
subject from the navy against the abolition Of
AOGgipg Now, as regards this man from New York it
could be shown that he not entitled to
The Senator from New Hsmpshire had bsen abused,
for the source of his information not reliable
ed II at tbs IL dvidua from New York had bee
sailor in the navy. He had served one month on
beard ing as e, s"asd and
earnestly plead for the preservation Of foggiug
the only means Of preserving the discipline of the navy
MIR PHELPS argued that this i'm portant innovation
was net in its place in appropriation bil but that
1t ought to be acted upon Of ITSELF and after due
sidera'isn Of the proper COMMITTEES
Mr. AUGUSTUS DoDGE asked If whipping was not
abolitbe d in the Army!
Mr. CALHouN-Yss, sir, and it has had psrncous
effect n lieu of whipping, the ball and chain has
been substituted. which is a degrading punish.
ment. and MIR, Calhoun commended that it was in
expedient to abolish logging in the Navy.
Mr HALE suggested that the question on striking
cut the House provso directing order for the abo
licn Of foggiDg to be ifsued, be taken by common
ccnsent and that the yeas and nays be taken on his
amen dment. Agreed to. Proviso stricken out.
The question then required on Mr. Hale's amend
ment for repsaling all laws nctiDg corporal unish
ment In the navy.
Cured in striking out the provso and opposed to
this mepdment However much he might be opposed
to hogging, appropriation bill not the place for
ndment OF this kind. That radio act Of
idered. Besides the proposed amendm for abolish
ing corporal punshment, abolished ell punishment
for wi 1t punishmeht could be substituted for logging
that was not corporoal
And provided, that all laws and parts Of laws autho
rjzug the infection OF the punishment Of whipping In
he navy Of tho United States be, and the same are
hereby repealed.
MIR. BENTON suggested that amendments Of this
character retarded action upon the appropriation bills
and were improper on that account. He was opposed
to hogsipg. Among the ancient Romans q citizen OF
Rome could not be whipped, and believe that an
American 10 as good a. a Roman and better than .
Roman. By the laws Of Rome a citizen could not be
scorrged-tbat reserved for slaves but for all that
he thought the amendment was out Of place in ap
preparation bill
The question resulted II to 81 as follows -
YEAS Hessrs lltn Baldwin Borand bradbury. Cameron,
Clarhe Davis Dix Dodge Of Iowa Hail. Ham
lin, joiner Mesalfe. Miles, Underwood UphAn and Walxsr-
e1 Cali csyton, Davis Of Mississippi Dayton Dicnnson
Down., Fitzgerald Fitzpatrick Foote Greene Hannesen Hous
nty, " estcott, and Yulee-S2.
SO the anne ndment was rejected.