Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1849-12-18

understood TO say that he had had interview with the
member from Indiana in which the subject of the organization
OF the committees having introduced he r H. had de-
carcd that he wanted to know nothing in advance upon n
he did not conceive proper either 10 require or 10
give pledges such subject
Mr. F. p STANTON regretted, as much any gentle
man could this dscussian had arisen but he did not regret
that this transaction had light He felt one Of the
Southern gentlemen who had supported the member rom In
diana that portion Of the odum fell upon himself as on all
from the South who had voted for that gentleman de
wanted TO make single explanation that he had supposed
his knowledge Of the former course OF the member from
Indiana that he [AIr. Bnowsl was opposed TO The Wmol
Proviso Being under this impression and not that
lie would into collision with the free soers he voted
for that gentleman the bitter end, he acknowledged that
end He owed thanks those who had resisted
his Mr. BIS election and glad OF the occurring opport-
nifty of acknowledging his obligation TO Them
Mr.. Mcl1ULLEN said he regretted exceedingly to throw
himself before the House. being the first time III his lie in
which he had attempted word in deberave assem-
bly,. But having been called upon by the gentleman from
Maryland OR EvASs he felt due not only to that gem
but himself and his constituents that he should re-
spond the nteogatoy Of the gentleman. Anxious as he
the House Of Representatives organized ne had
had his fears the gentleman from Indiana on this great
question But these fears had been aayed BY conversations
which he had held with various gentlemen from the South
They could Judge then what his astonishncni upon hear
ing the rtnor last night the National Hotel that the
man from Indiana had given pledges 10 these now
distinguished Frec-Soil gentlemen.
He (Mr. Mem had then remarked 10 gentleman, that II
he could satisfy himself of that fact he was one man from
the South who would not vote for the gentleman from In
diana He had then been introduced 10 the gentleman lie
did satisfy him that the charge was unlounded but said
that he would bring proofs 10 him (1lr Mem this morning
These proofs had not been produced and his Cr McMs)
mind being satisfied he claimed his privilege an hum
bic member being called upon cast his vote 10 ntero-
gate the gentleman from Indiana lie had stated TO hmfat
he was charged by Madame Runlor with having given
pledge to the Free Soil gentlemen that in the event Of his
being elected Speaker, they should be taken Of The
gentleman stated that these gentlemen had called upon him,
and that he had said them that he could give pledge in
his election except that in tho organization OF
the Committee for the District Of Columbia and other COM
mttcc he would cndeavor place each gentleman where
he ought stand or in other words that he would place
gentlemen upon the respective committees according to their
talents and standing Hc was pleased 10 hear that decar
ton from The gentleman He had then asked nm he mad
given any written pledge to these gentlemen and had re-
ceyed the reply that he had not Afterwards in conversation
him that he need have fears upon this subect thai he had
had conversation with the gentleman from Indiana
He repeated his regret thar he had been called ont IN tins
unexpected way but he had considered this statement due
his colleague TO this House. and more especially 10 MS
constituents He therefore begged pardon for having tres
passed upon the time of the House II he had hope OF ms
request being granted he would most sredly adopt te
course Of the gentleman from Tennessee ir THoMAs)
and ask leave OF the House 10 change his vote But he
knew under the parliamentary law he had not that rlght
When the time came, however, for another vote ne would
show the House and to the country where he would stand
MrBROWN, of Indiana, here made few remarks which
naudibe amid the great confusion surrounding the re-
Mr.. JACOB THOMPSON said thai, though feeling deep
y mortified By what hal occurred he glad that the de-
yeopment had been made As he did not believe that the
House was AT that Time prepared TO 60 on ~h the voting
. he would move that they do now adjourn
Al The request Of Mr. DrSHAM who promised renew ii,
Mr.. r. withdrew Inc motion; when
Mr. DUNHAM said Mr. Clerk, had not expected 10
mnge in this discussion ii discussion BE- called do
wish add this excitement which consider AZ alto
gethcr uncaed for but cannot SIT BY and h.army colleague
reproached with improper motives and with aboionism and
Tree sos also hear This transaction denounced as
dshonorab and forbear express wish nj least that The
gentlemen from the South would make their charges nile
more specific We think il high time We understood Their p"
sition. We wish TO know what, in their opinion, makes
transaction dsonorabe what it is that makes man an
abotionisia free soiler Is il dshonorabr for gentleman
who isa candidate for high office, receiving letter from
another gentleman oequa responsibility who wishes 10 give
him his VOTE give that letter respectful answer Is his
transaction thing more!
Mr.. KAUFMAN. viii the gentleman from Indiana allow
me 10 ask him question!
Mr.. DUNHAM tcontnung) Certainly, sir
Here Mr. d. was interrupted by the gentleman from
Texas,
4 Mr.. KAUFMAN. Does The gentleman from Indiana
slider il honorable for gentleman who candidate Tor an
office in which gentlemen from different portions of the l.
no representing different interests Interested 10 write
10 portion making pledges and then 10 conceal that act
from the other INTEREST,"
| Mr.. DUNiAM. II is a sufficient answer for say
that have yet to learn that the developments hitherto made
which can be made show such case Sir does this let
ter show that my colleague made pledges which II was I'M
proper or dishonorabe ior him 10 make!
Here Mr. ID. again interrupted BY The gentleman from
Texas, who wished 10 make some inquiry not heard BY the
Mr. b. continuing said: will admit if you separate this
letter from the conversation which took place between my
colleague and the gentleman from Pennsylvania (a Will
mott which preceded H. OFT of which grew, and which pro-
perry its context may torture from II meaning
il intended 10 bear. But appeal 10 gentlemen
this is canddif il is fair way 10 consde written in
together and then what there IS that Is improper The
conversation stated both BY my colleague and the gentle
man from Pennsylvania amounted TO this he gentleman
from Pennsylvania complained that ever heretofore the
House had been organized and the committees no ar
ranged that the opinions and sentiments entertained by HIM
sell and those who acted with him sied and not nj
lowed be heard and ry represented upon this floor and
that all they wished that committees should be form
ed favorable the opinions which they entertained or that
majority Of sing lie committee should be favorable 10 then
but simply that they should be fairly formed giving them
fair representation therein according 10 their numbers and
position in tho House thai their views and the views oil
their constituents might BE- fairly heard upon this floor and
made known their lcllowcitizens o this Union To this
what could my colleague reply How ought he, rs an no,
norable, national nan-as know h is-to have replied
In any other than he ddihal this was but tar
and proper Aye and will add that was but sheer JUS
tee 10 portion of the Of this Union what
may be their political opinions.
Now sir this letter follows this conversation this express
sion by the gentleman from Pennsylvania of what would be
sufficient satisfy himself and his friends and il is reply
10 addressed 10 my colleague BY the gentleman from
Pennsylvania, merely containing an nterogaloy, whether
in case OF his election rs speaker nc would mus form me
committees Of this House, This letter simply assures the
gentleman that il hes elected, the committees on The Terri
tories the District Of Columbia and the Judiciary should be
so constituted 10 be- satisfactory To his Mr. WIS friends
That is when taken in conncxon with that foregoing
and proper context Of this letter il amounts to sim
py ths-that those should be fairly formed that
upon then and in The House, they should the rcprc>cn
tayes of large and respectable constituency, be family
heard assuring him simply that that should take place wn"
ought take place. if had been given Is this
improper Is this dshonorabc in the opinion Of the gentle
men from the South! |! So want 10 know II. would
like 10 know II there Is member OIL fhs Epor VINO dalcS 10
arise in his place. and in the face OF the American people To-
assert shat he wishes this House organized, these
mecs arranged that the opinions Of portion ~ Item
are 10 be sled here in their legislative halls! That
they be heard in this Iouse!lat they shall not
given the word!iat portion of their represent atives
ostracsed upon this floor? Not dare do III moi,
dare say he wishes ii done in other than
that which this letter pescIbes; As 10 the charge OF abo-
tionism ard irccsoilisn, desire 10 know what gentlemen
from the South necessary make freesoiler
4 an abolonst
Mr. KAUFMAN. Mr.. Brow. is charged with aboli-
onsn, but with dupcy,
Mr. DUNHAM said If the charge has been repeatedly
made to-day my earshaye deceived ne If to be in principle
opposed the extension of slavery but the time
have proper regard for the compromises Of the constitution
constitutes aboonis they viii find none in the North
who escape from being classed in that category.
As 10 the charge OF dupcy, nothn. whatever has been
shown proving that my colleague has expressed sentiments
these questions party class, differing from those
declared By him 10 The other
At the conclusion of the speech of Mr. d. the House adj
journed.
THURSDAY, December H. le49.
The Senate met as usual and without doing any business