The New York herald., 1849-02-23

ms ndnp the power to its full extent possessed CON
sr-ss. The OF the admission OF s ss~e
th- otjs cton that state cannot Do sso"''ea"'Puss
M BrrIrR raid the Judicisry Committee did not
o. be but that the people must possess some
OF the tu ents local political organixstion before
they can bsne' sunsd ss s's'e. s'e..c
sover.igD over the territories. Whatever political
powers territory posesses delegated ty Congress-
a territory acts under the sovereignty Of Congress-
Pas,ips the power of Congress, Mr.. Bell next ar
gued tba II would not be inexpsdent to admit theee
vast territories Of New Mexico and CaliforDi. e
two ST ates, State for the prevailing
character Of there territories desert Such psrti
cutrly decrited by Colonel Fremont wssthe great
of there ores From this general sterility and
from the nature Of the population OF theee teirtores
SLAVERY does not KIT there To exist 1t must be estA
blisbsd by law; hen the people OF the tefrIyo
eaprets their deciriob, II VIII c~er.a ~ t,r IN. ord
nance of s7 slavery not exist snd LETT 20 the
people, they will forever exclude IT, ADMIT tnen 'snese
territories as y State Ststes and II net ~ once,
prospectvely in the Of Kentucky say the nrst
Of October newt Mr.. Bell, on the sostrso. QUESTION
room to extsn it.s that this least prefer
= .ms]l rpsc- ard thus extipsuishipg the system
Of savery by .ufocatoa. But here every thing
.ion % of Of slavery into New Mexico and Csliforni.
The distinguished Senator here entered into
minute description Of the peculiar geographical fsa
bold mountains covered with snow, their gene
Isl level being 900 5000 feet above the sea-the
or feet above the general level Of the
Aieghsn mountains.
MT WEBsrrR remarked that the valley Of Mexico
higher by nearly . Thousand feet than the White
Hills Of New Hampshire.
Mr. BELL-Declining to the North.
Mr.. WkBsrER-Yes, sir.
Mr. BELL-But they only decline q little to the
freat plains Of thu Gils and the Colorado These vast
tistriots barren waste without rains six months
in the year, generally without timber vegetation,
with large rivers losing themselves in the sands did
not constitute r~sion for slave labor. Even the val.
Icy of the Sserame INTO and San joaquin beautifully
1T 10 deecribsd by Col Fremont B MARKED IS you LOOK
Gown from the Sierra Nevada by . white plain with
vegetation Even that valley has to be cultivated
irrigation from the streams from the vast slope Of
the Sierra Nevada Even this valley then, was not ca-
uated for the stspss Of tobacco sugar rice, hemp
cotton. He argued that then, there other
for labor in there tsritories than in
mining and that workers in the mines tbs forty
fifty thousand Indians scattered the habtable
spaces of California and New Mexico, much
cnespsr and better as soorers than African slaves,
that The employ ment Of in competition with the
Indians, wsuld be impossible Every circumstance all
the natural Of these territories would
then forever exclude the institution ofslsvery In con
cutop, Mr. Bell earnestly conte nded that this mend
ment ~as not Inappropriate to the app eprstiou bill
he appealed that the disregard objection: of
Its ncopsruty In consideration Of the paramount i'm.
Portance Of governments to the new territories. lie
hoped Senator'S would not take shelter under paris
NE ntsry but that they would act nder
the exclusive sente of their high responsibility He
was apprehen.ive that the democratic party, whs
were resp0neblo Tor the acquisition OF these
territories, and all the troubles which they had
brought upon Us, were desirous of casting
this subject to the new administration. He hoped
they would do better, and help to get this difficulty of
our hands while We may 1t 10 only to be augmented
by postponsmsnt He hoped that Northern fsnati-
cism party tactics would in this case be overraled
and that by the adoption his ndment in .oms'
form or other the question which distract
cOunsels will be setled for
MIR BEkRIEn would not arg ue this amendment. 1t
was 20 vide departure from all parliamentary usage
that he hoped It would be rrjscsd upon the simple
be deferred from opposition Interpolation like
this by the plea that uness Of the south adopt
this expedient shall be subjected to the insult
tie Wmot previto. He would never, q Southern
man, sglee to such On dine mt in such bill,
der such threat ss this At the proper time he would
not refu.e to discuss the whole in al its bear
ipgs He nhned himself therefore, now, the late
report Of the Judiciary against the sdmis
sion at once of California and New Mexico State
or States because of its slity, aud in
defence Of which he had the honor pre-
sent; and answer to the argument Of the Senator
trom Tenneeee, that 1t is competent for Congress
create State MIR. Berrien pleaded the argume Mt of
the report, that territories like Caiif' 'rnis aud New
Mexico were not competent to te admitted State
or Stete. without the preliminary forms required to
give Them the municipal policy and character Of q
the mean time they must be provd.d for terrific.
Ties When MIR. BeIrien had concluded, the question
was taseh on the amendment Of Mr. Bell and rejsoted
For the anendm.pt, Meesrs. Bell, Dodge. Of Iowa
Douglass, Downf-Noss go.
The question REQUIRED on the amendment Of Mr..
Walker extending the revenue, land. navigation
Jaws, &c over the territories of Calicrnia and Now
Mr.. Foo1E moved verbal sras ndment to the amend
ment Ct MIR Walker.
The an endmept was read. The principal feature Is
Mexico temporarily to the President and the appropri
ting $4,000 Tor post,assters collectors agents Ec
Mir. WEsrcorT, for the preeeDt. moved to adjourn
Mr. FooIN and MIR. ArsERros hoped she bill would
be fpi,bed to piEht.
Motion to acjourn lost; but subsee ucnty renewed
by Mr.. Dsyton-22 TO 10. Adjoui ned.
W.'HrSoroS, Feb q, ls4s
ABOLITION OF THE TRAINING PRIv,LzoE-REoucrIor
POSTAGE.
The bill for this purpose. introduced by Mr.. Dixon,
was read. He said that be did not wish to debate It.
but to make slight modification viz that after the
4th Of July ls4Y authorizing members to send
receive letters and other msiabe matter free Of
po.tssr, be repealed He moved the previous question
The SPEAKkR-ihe be gentle man has right modi-
fy his own bill except by nsoimous consent.
Mr. DIXoN-I believe that there Is NO obi sction.
table
Mr.. GoccrH-Ny object in asking for the floor 10 to
sppeai to the gentleman frem Connecticut not to In
'it on The previous question. l wish TO have tbs bill
committed to the Committee the Poet Ofics with
nst uetions to report bill to reducehe rates OF post
sge he object can be accomplished only 1T this
'sse Of the proceedings I ask, this objsst be
reached In any other way than by committingn'
The SfEAKER- Ii 10 now open to amen ndment.
Mr. GoGoiS-l ask the gentleman to withdraw the
mo tiop fer the pfeviou. question.
MI DIXON was pndeIstood to refuse.
The SPEAKER-The House will preserve order.
Mr. GoGcIS-lf the House will refuse to sustain the
previous question hat will be the result!
The SPEAKER-Ths first question will be on the
anendment OF the gsntieu from Connecticut (Mr.
Dixop) afterwards other dine nts may be offered
The previous question WAS not sustained.
MI. KAUFMAN moved to lay the bill on the table.
Mr. GoGGiH-l would ask the gentle man to withdraw
The motion
Mr. KAUFMAN What il the object?
Mr. GoGeIS My object is to amend the bill, to
provide for reduction of the rates OF postage
MIR. KArFmAE-l am dssirous OF having q test vote
on this bill unce eDDected with any other. | in
favcr Of Of the nds to the postage bill
but opposed TO the Aboltob of the fapki privilege
Mr.. PETTIT-l rhe TO n question of order The:s 10
motion pc nding to lay the bill on the table.
Mr. kArFMAN-l have control Of my own motion
Mr. P,TriT-A motion IL pending tolay on the table,
sno by the rules Of the House II Ia not debateAbe.
Ibe SPEAKtK. The gentlenn an from Texcs has con-
troll of HE motion
Mt He hse no right to debate it.
Nr. kAuFmAr-I don't wish to debate II, and move
TO ley the bill op the table
TIE qbe'tiob va. taken, and By vote Of 81 to IO5
the House refu,sd to lay the bal on the table