The daily crescent. [volume] ([New Orleans, La.]) 1848-1851, 1849-12-22
NEW ORLEANS.
SATURDAY MORNING, DECEMBER ~.

NEW RLEANS.
SATURDAY MORNING, DECEMBER ~.
EncitAng Debate in the House of Repre-
sentatives---The Union.
On the 17th, some of the wing members from the
South who refused to vote for Mr.. Winthrop, made
explanations of their opinions and purposes, in the
course of a debate, which was exceedingly inAam-
matory Messrs. Toombs and Stephens, of Geo,
were the principal Southern speakers, and as their
language and the position which they assume in
relation to the slavery question, not only decided
but ultra, in announcing disunion as the immedi-
ate effect Of the passage of the anti-savery mea-
sures through Congress-we have thought it inte-
resting to quote freely from their speeches,
Mr.. TooMBs commenced by speaking Of the dis.
organization Of the House, and the want of any in
terest of the South in the organization of Congress-
until they had sureties for respect for their rights
He proceeded
It seems from the remarks Of the gentleman from New
York, that to be inundated by enlOges upon the
Union, and denuncatons Of those who ready TO sae
upon its altar Sin, have much attachment for the union
n s o5f ~ ' bsys i @ 9 ~ % Uu is as 9y
for it whatever Just and honorable ought sacreeI
who did understand desired msrepresen my con
duet or opn2i in Tga9n e Thee Questions which il my
not Only utter them, but make them the basis Of my political
and lie country and In ne presence OF the living God tat Ri
by your legislation you seek to drive from the territories Of
California and New Mexico, purchased b. the common hood
al euFe 81 e Whole RsoPe, ana to 2oofh slavery in
on half the States OF this conedeacy, fir dsuR0a and
if my physical courage be equal e the maintenance Of my
e eone Of HI 9ut have ke 5ot6n S' IN i c,
~ 1850.
which controlled our fathers IN the formation Of the constn
ton Unles we are unworthy Of cur ancestors, wiz
| never accept less as condition Of union.
Mr.. Toombs here ran over the causes of com
plant by the Southern States against the North
i'll the practical abrOgatiOn of the right to reclaim
fugitive slaves, the attempts to abolish slavery in
the District of Columbia, and the restrictions pro-
posed upon the territories. He proceeded thus:
1.-The The tsioe are the gqmIo9 property IF s people Of the
You their agents. il your duty while they are
in territorial state, remove all mpedmens their free
holder and the nonavehoer You have given testrongest
appropriate 10 Yourselves an lis territory eretraie All t
wrongs which have enumerated yet with these destinations
eqses with yog, in which you have controlling majority
nounced ont Of doors and c0tss and indoors
S s cd s S S6a to % a5 ye & esde nays
if3nl S 9s o w. i tSt N S me looGHsLy rom
.iite XIII 5giI would Undue III S9rfb ,t t y,
questions upon principle, honorable and safe both ectio,
qi the Union have planted myself upon national plat
form, resisting extremes at home and abroads willingly sub
ecung myself g the asperloi5 q enemies and iar worse
IMAM lHeuus. determined
Questions have almost depard OF any such, at least from
must tell them boldly and frankly thatwe prefer any calami
ie 70 submission 70 such ana INJURY as tey would
all evil have stated my positions. have urged them
reserve that for future occasion. These are principles upon
which here Give securities that the power of the
organization which seek will not be used to the iRjuryo
my then you can have my corporations but not
then Grant them and you prevent the recurrence OF the dis
graceful scenes OF the last twenty -four hours and restore
| cerned =" let discord reign forever. -
Mr.. Baker, of Illinois, replied to Mr.. Toombs,
in the course of which the following scene occurred
Mr.. BAKER-T dere in the next place. to remark as to
these threats OF dlsunion, listened painfully and
eney Sir deny that The great body of the people Of the
reasonable agitation NOR when e scenes and pseehe Of
| brethren Of the South to be in earnest
| Mr. WALLACE, of South CaToina.-ANe will teach you
Mr. BAKER-I should be Obliged to gentlemen if they
would !gll me how this knowledge shall be impaired.
spoke in the name Of The people Of the south and in my
opinion they will have their rights in spite of the Norand
Mr.. BAKER-SiT, profess myself still unable to learn
The North viii stand By the Conu g %G and 6 Ia Sc stand By
viso as Jefferson Mil egiI be oy p y4g v tS 1e iD
Of the people upon this question;
OF the people had right, under the constitution, decide
repeat sr we viii be governed by the will Of majority
81 me pe9pe coqsntqton9y expressed but neither for the
District OF columbia, nor California nor New Mexico, will
we desire or even dream OF dissolution Of this Union.
yOu protest. shall deaim; but rvid declarations.
dressed e the Almighty Gas it. indeed he were God Of dis
who chambers his secret heart purpose so accused
aud so deadly Sir, do not believe the Union be
Yet, II such thing be possible it shall not be our fault
We shall not be Inundated by threats Of violence We shall
not snk from the calm expression Of our deliberate jqdg
me We are here as reemen to speak for ireemsn, and
Of pQseriy, Gentlemen, who is there among Us, amid all
this talk Of dissolution, that doe not love the Unon3 Is there
man IN this vast assembage who, the coolest reflection,
Try and il it moi ali our country TAppausel Sir con-
this gaddeTs heart: and already
myself that could waver in confidence but for moment
threats Of dunon fierce and bitter could draw forth shouts
Of applause from gentlemen on te Other sde Of this House as
threat were already accomplished. And yet sir, tile echo
tate up among tie masses iii becomes perpetual anthem
q hope aud 10y Il wdl swell amid the mountains Of the
West L will reyeroerate through all The yas extension
Sir, in the the of the North rudely attacked
and speaking what know be their entnenI say dis
as an American Reart beats in a. RmerieaR boso or I
Amgy sends his wisdom and his goodness guide
Mr.. STEPHENS, Of Georgia. followed Mr. Baker. He dit
these States, He cherished more than aught the compac
formed by fathers after the struggle He said
eIed Spd w6et ~ t 5e So % NV "a Ia So se oP
found to be true This Union was formed ior lie commo
Oenet we OF the South came into it for mutual benefits
or feelings ranped and tell gentlemen, from whateFt
SECTION they may come, not to be deceived this subeo
said this subject by my colleague mn T6ombsl meets
response M neifl IT gentlemen that
hymns TO the unon 1t can be preserved, they mistake Til
Union was founded on immutahe Justice and ngh-not
render the weak subectto the OpponOtthe strong thin
e that tts debate may well come now at other m
aud that the American heart may be awakened il has bee
/ sumbeung. Weot the South feel that weaker tina
the North But when gentlemen talk Of organizing part
y the principle Of attachment the Union, as
! | begin on the principle Of justice.
4 Would you have us TO be appendaFe 10 your Union
to submit 10 aggression after aggression do not intend
debate this question here to-day but tell you before tn
God that rules the universe that would rather the SOuthe
NJ country, with all her statesmen and all her great Spirits
offered up AN honorable sacrifice than that should subm
Tor one Instant 10 degradation. LGrgat appause.l
lwould say IN the language o. kOssuth, to that wi
would not stand up by his section, the Of the etc
nal God rest upon his head!
Some Northern speakers followed, when N
a CoLcocK, Of South Carolina, addressed himself
I Mr.. Bakers declaration that he did not beiev
= the South to be in earnest:
~ confess, with some degree of modification that perhaps
true the South has, by her conduct hitherto exposed h
y; sell to this mputaon but rejoice say that the day
~ gone by when question as to her deliberate purpose
~ subject VIII ever again be made.
The gentleman has alluded to the eryid and impazou
language which has fallen fom the lips Of Southern get
NJ men to-day. can that gentleman and this House III
W desire not 70 make this question subject for rhetorical
play and he Is greatly mistaken il he suppOes such the ie
ing Of any member this floor from my section Of the Ung
III desire 70 regar1 it in all its s0emny and importance
WIN ul view OF all the that surround il.
e' this spirit declare that believe the South prepared
teach the North that she is in and here pledge
he self ta If any bill should be passed al this Congress abolish