The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-04-23

to be obliged to pay the cost of the but did they
US Or own o
| mont so long as the tribute should remain unpaid
The struggle wGs beWeen absolsm and liberty, and the
| .4ust'ian dominated all Italy. Rome aud Tuscany
much threatened Piedmont depreciation on the
left The question of Fremont, therefore, did not
| solve that of Italian Independence. There
TO the death 6etceen the revolutionary idea and the preu
dices Of despotism and he had said on previous
that from Hungary the Austrian army might come to
Italy. The prediction had been realised-the Austri
ans were now at the foot Of the Alps. Was it with
Austria then that they should ally themselves under
such circumstances No, but with the Italian rcpub-
| lies. Laughter But could compact destroy the
revolution 1t was forgotten that from 1892 to 1914
all the efforts attempted had been uselessthey had
prevented 1880 or ls4s the lesson of history them
ought not to be neglected The policy of the govern
men ought to be democratic if it would not pcrpetu-
ate war He with regret that the government had
commenced the old comedy of answering reproaches
against its policy by saying that that policy not
worse than that Of its predecessors The hon. gentle
man then proceeded to contend that the provisional
government had declared that, if necessary, it would
assist Italy by arms, and he maintained that that GO
vernment had done all that it could. and would have
done more If Piedmont herself had not opposed it.
Now however, he added the ltaians-their brethren
appealed to them, and they could refuse listen
to their cry without rendering themselves guilty of
anti national and anti-French policy. The honorable
the independence of Italy, made by NJ Odilon Barrot
at banquet at st Quentn and after general OBJ
ment is with the foreigner in favor of the treaties
| 1915, or it is with the republic against them'
| NJ BiLLAuLT observed that the government had not
sufficiently explained what its intentions werc
sufhclently replied to his remarks.
The MINISTER OF FoRElcN AFFAIRS said that he
thought that he had sufficiently answered NJ Billaut
already
Mr.. JULES FAvnE entered into an examination of the
Italian question: the policy of the provisional govern
ment, and of that Of General Cavaignac He then
| summed up the recent events and said, that the
France had the right cast sword into the scale
Such the idea under which the resolution of the
committee had been drawn up. The committee was of
opinion that the safety of France required that such
resolution should not be hostile to the Minstry-that
it should not appear to be attack the cabinet to
cause its overthrow 1t ought to be the expression Of
the whole country which, forgetting its internal div
| sions, demanded that France should act. The
mttce desired that at Rome and in Tuscany far
was possible and to the utmost limits of possibility
| the government should cause natonaties to be
spected and in order that it might act cnicacously
1t was absolutely necessary that it should be supported
| by the National Assembly prolonged cries of
The PREsIDENr then read from the chair the PROPOSE
ton brought forward by M. Bxio and said he should
non "Thc order of the day pure and SIMPLIFY
The MINISTER OF FonEIeN AFFAIRS had only to repeat
what he had already said that the government would
accept the proposition just read but the responsibility
Of the language used must rest with the reporter.
| NJ FLocoN said that in his opinion the Assembly
could the order of the day presented the
name of the Committee of Foreign Affairs, since it i'm
piled certain confidence in the government which he
for his part far from feeling. [Laughter On the
other hand the order Of the day and simple might
be deemed to imply feeling of indifference for the po-
|
| propose the following order of the day motive =
The National Assembly perssting its order Of the day
necessary to guarantee the enfranchsement Of Italy
General PARAGUAY DILLIERs said, that the order of
the day Of the Committee of Foreign Affairs was OBJ
scure strangely worded (aughter) that many per-
sons did not exactly know what it meant. (Renewed
aughter In order therefore that there might be no
doubt in the matter he should propose the order Of the
| day pure and simple. (Hear)
x division then took place ON the order of the day
| pure and simple when the result
/
| Absolute majority 3S5
| Ayes. -. 3ZI
| Noes a.
| Majority. lilo
In consequence the order of the day pure and simple,
| was declared to be rejected
| The PREsDENT-M Pagnerre proposes the following
as modification of the proposition of NJ Bxio 4" The
National Assembly declares that in order to guarantee
tho honor and interests of France and to tho
integrity of Piedmont the Executive Power it should
think right to support the negotiation by partial
temporary occupation of any point of Upper Italy, it
would find in the National Assembly the most sincere
| and most active cooperation"
NJ FLocoN objected that resolution, on the ground
that the Assembly could not offer its cooperation
the government for eventual He thought that
thew ought to forget the which existed be-
tween them and the cabinet and that the best plan
TO recall the resolution of oath May He therefore pro-
posed that the Assembly should adopt the following -
The National Assembly, psrssting in its resolution
Of oath May invites the Executive Power to take all
the measures necessary to ensure its execution. -lAg
| tation.
M THEIns-I have neither the time the strength
to treat the question fully, which regret. must,
|
Flocon and his friends for frank and clear expana-
ton. / wish to every to display the frank
bate (cres on the lcf 1t Is very late to interrupt
and incidents If the Assembly will not hear
now, let it postpone the question till tomorrow (cres
The posponement Of the debate to the next day was
put to the vote and carried amidst great agitation
The sitting brought to close at quarter past
| six oclock
SITTING SATURDAY, MARCH 81.
After few words from Gen CAyAiGNAc in defence OF
his policy and in praise Of that followed by the present
M. THEIRS rose, and said he had to apologize for
having come forward the day before to propose to adj
journ the discussion, (no, no. but the question
| was of such Importance, that 1t appeared to him
necessary to have it clearly set forth before the As
| semby. He had in particular, to refer to the
language Of NJ. Ledru Rollin which he could not
| tanly imagine to have been serious. What because
the conduct Of the government in the affair Of Ancona
he ought to recommend that general war should be
declared at present! "Why,n said the honorable gem
tleman, that would be the thing to say that,
because disapproved of the acts of the government
under the narchy-because formed part of the op-
positon--I at present obliged to be democ ratio
republican like you loud murmurs on the left; laugh
ter on the right That would certainly be an sxtraor
Voicr on the left-we have no such idea
NJ. THrERs-So much the better, for in that
quite Of the rame mind on the point Laughter.
But let place aside my past acts and speak of the
present. for certainly the matters passing before
attention. Italy has fallen. Loud interruption
the left in the midst Of which NJ Gents voice could be
heard.
The PREsprNr-Let NJ Theirs speak; you reply
afterwards. And you, NJ Gent, be pleased to be ST.
lent
M. THrRs--I comprehend the motive OF this inter-
rupton wish to say that all Italy was not on the
battlefield of Novara That true; and regret 1t for
her those Of whom set yourselves up here as
the defenders. Hear hear For the present, then,
Italy has fallen, murmurs;l yes, for the moment do
not say for always. hope she may rise again: But
the fact not be dsputedfor the moment she has
succumbed Is France engaged towards Italy! Beyond
any doubt no Under every government France has
not repeat If the ermistce shall be broken
by your fault it is you alone that the responsibility
Of the consequences must al!'' And is not merely
the various ministries who have said but every
Of consideration whose opinion Is OF value in such
But does IL that France Is to remain indifferent to
the fate of Italy! By no means. Let us them
examine what her policy ought to be in the
There are three courses to pursue; the first Is to