The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-02-08

duty as man and statesman, and o. President
mocratic party lhs. ha ma ION this particular
question. TIA hs ha hsJ Yes, I repeat what
.sy ns to discharge .; hi: duty
President Of the democratic party. (fis! ha ha y
And be disregards these things. II they have any
gentleman from Georgia designs. Persons and pa
pers ~ We have heard the threat before, when the
instructions to sdeli were called for and withheld
not II you wanted to do It. why not do it whom you
had an opportunity! Where was all the vallisncy aud
courage! where was the chivairic daring Of my nd
from Georgis to send for persons and papers then!
He did not DO It, and would not do it now It occurs
Withholding the SIidsl which do not exist
nov. wss only hsHa dozsr days after the ratiaca.
ton reached tn country that the instructions we're
called for; peace was not then permanent basis
and there were reasons why they should be withheld
ct that time All that Mr.. Houston desired was to
nicate, it, in his opinion, not ncom patibs With the
public interests copies Of the instructions to Messrs
Sewer and Clifford, together with such
as pertains to the treaty. He meant embrace all
the information sought Give the President chance
to comply If he refuse then make the call absolute.
pers 1t is improper to attempt force the President
EXECUTIVE NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. AND pAPERsn
Mr. ScHENcx remarked That "the king can do no
wrong" IL not xn article in his creed. Where he
thought there usurpation he would speak, not
withstsnding there defenders Of the Prssnt on
very narrow limits He would not talk about bluuder-
ing into the war and laundering out OF 1t 1t was
commenced oy the fres11euC, and concluded by q
not at the time recognized accredited fu nc.
tionsry. There could, therefore, be no treaty
MIR. BoYp asked whether the President did not sign
1t, aud thereby approve oft.
MIR. ScHxrcx replied, that the President was willing
to shove this treaty on the Senate and when the Sc
nate ratified it, with nts he sent Il abroad
Before treaty to the Senate did tho gentleman
understand that the Preside mt has to rafy IL? Did
the gentle recoect that the President claimed our
right to Oregon up to 81 49, as "cear and indisputa
ble' and that he was compelled to down to 40:
and that he rent this to tss Senate? In Mexico a,
treaty making power He asked whether this treaty
had any validity until it ratified not only by the
Mexican Congress- but by the Mexican executive? No
man will pretend that there BE- treaty until this
is done. Before the executive of Mexico would
consent to the treaty he required to have further
explanations, and further assurances and modaes.
tons 90 far Is the of the two
was concerned; and these assurances, aud sxplaua-
tons and notifications, obtained BY the Mexican
Executive before he would allow tho treaty to be- sent
here. TAT this period, ten minutes past two, the
minute hand dropped from the clock tho door Of
would look at the PROTOCOL he would find that the Pre-
sdent that the Senate did not intend what it
said 1t IN equivocaon to pretend that the Senate
Mr. MrApEOIft the Mexican government had INQUIRED
Of our Commissioners what our government meant by
were not the Commissioners bound to give the con.
eideratons and which operated on us! Could
tories Were our Commi.sioners to S.y nothiUr ana
not to give their explanations Of the matter? under
stand that the protocol is the explanation Of the Com
exists. wish to know whether any real dnicaty sub
sta ntisy exists between the protocol and treaty
Mir ScHEroK said he had respect for the gentle.
mans special pleading He admitted that when
the Commissioners Of the United States were asked
by the Executive Ct Mexico to explain It their
right to give their own construction. He would
say however, that they had no right to modify
were not intended BY tho Senate. He clsimsd this:
the protocol much further than the explain
1t is solemn protocol that the United States could
M mot int rAa hiuOh Init hat
in the protocol and the Mexican government refused
to rstify the taty only on the cond ions contained in
Mexican government was deceived and Mr. Polk pre-.
cured the ratification by fraud
Mr.. JONES, Of Tennessee, rose to Q point Of order
How csn the Speaker ascertain when the genteman's
hour is out! One Of the hands has dropped from the
The SPEAKER (smiling)-The Chair will take care of
that.
toco and the alterations in the treaty asked that
President be made to chow papersnot to show cause
Mr.. MEADE-Has the House the control Of the De-
Mr.. ScHErcK-No; but the House has the right to
call upon him. We have called In two instance, but
the President has proved contumacious Having failed
In both instances It will be . matter for the House
to measure, and then come to other things-to sp-
point committee and send for persons and papers
Here is an instance where the President tried to get
treaty by fraud and that ratified treaty
which does not tell the whole tale, and undertook to
DO an interpreter Of the Senate and made modiaoa-
lions, without which the ratification Of the treaty
could not have been procured We have had this Pre-
sident making war without consulting Congress; we
1ns m
President going to fer country which he said be.
ionsed to Texas, and then erecting governments
there we have hat the President declaring Mexcans
citizens Of the United States and then hanging them
for treason; We find him advancing into Mexico and
thsreestsblishing revenue laws, collecting money, and
then spending it, without appropriation nrst made
by law as required by the constitution There in
enough for inquiry and nsrs hs, been for
time will never come whom forbearance will cease to be
virtue. The time has come when should demand
OF the President whether he Is going to usurp ell func
tions OF government. 10 because the inquiry looks
to there consequences that he acquiesced In the views
submitted by the gentleman from Georgia.
Mr.. BURT thought that he stood disadvantageously
in this debate His friends had had to source
Of information beyond his resoh and as both sides
had been heard he moved the previous question.
The motion was seconded, and the question being
taken on MIR. Houston's amendment-for the Presi-
dent to furnish the Information not incompatible
with the public interest, etc-it was disagreed to.
Yeas 81, nays 90.
moved to reconsider the vets just taken. He suggest
ed to Mr. Stephens modification Of the resolutions
to the effect that the President be requested to furnish
to this House copies Of tho the
Secretary Of State and the Mexican after
the ratification Of the treaty, with copies of the in
structions to Meesrs Clifford and Sewer. etc.
MIR. STEPHENS acquiesced. and the motion Of Mr..
Wentworth, to reconsider, was laid on table.
The SPEAKER-The question 10 now on the adoption
Mr.. AsHMUr-Yeas and nays. ooh nor' "Quss-
tion % cit will only take up timely
Mr. MUBpHy-I wish to inquire whether It s compe-
tent for the gentleman from Georgs to modify his
solutions after the previous question has been second
ed!
The SpEAHER-It is too late to raise that point Of
order.
Mir MURPHr-Ib beg to ak
The SPEAKER--The Clerk will call the roll.
The vote was subsequently announoed-yeas LAT,
nays 81 so the resolutions ofMr Stephens adopt
ed.
Mr. STEPHENS moved to reconsider the vote by which
they were ed to- and at his instance tho mo.
ton was laid on the table.
[Gentlemen nov bsgan to put on their coats and
overshoes, and to pick up their hats
STATUE WARRINGTON.
Mr.. MEADE arose.
member in the crowd moved to adjourn.
The SPEAKER said that Mr.. Mead had the door, and
that gentlemen sent up resolution, which was read
fer information, viz: that the Committee Public
Expenditures inquire into the expedisney Of having
copy Of the statue of Washington, at Richmond,
taken and that the be deposited In the rotundo
of the Capitol He asked liberty give short history