The Democratic pioneer. [volume] (Upper Sandusky, Ohio) 1845-1853, 1849-01-19

ed in here to see the Speaker Of the SEN.
ate open and publish the votes, and yet
we are never to be allowed TO Ise the
knowledge thus scduired. Where are
your witnessed, are we 10 be called home
and see the constitution violated with
impunit)! 'lIe shall open and publish
them, what? the returns! Aud when
that is done, he has done his full duty
And then comes the separate part Of the
sentence separated from the foregoing
by a semicolon, the person having the
highesiBnnmbe of.votes shall be Govern
or. You have no more right to declare
who is Governor than | have, there is no
law in the s,atne book giving snch au-
thority to the Speaker. See the law, sec.
81, page 3l0, and there is the only an
thority under he law by which the Speak
er Of the Senate is to be governed; and
even if The Senator from Cuyahoga could
produce me a volume Of laws on the sub-
ject, | would hold the constitution as q
|
| would pie ad the second section of the
cons tuition against the law, sir but
the person having the highest number of
votes shall be governor. Who is to de
termine! 3iq
Mr.. Backus said that il A has three
votes in one counry-tbree ih another
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that A has twelve votes. If b has four
votes in one c"nnty--two in another. and
three in another, he, in eject, declares
Is has nine votes, and that A, receiving
Twelve votes, is Governor | understand
from the Senator that the eclaratinn as
to the Governor is to be drawn afSneMdo
ct uJeremdo. understand from the Spea-
ker Vt the Senate is to cast pel nell BY
way Of publication, before this ilonse
the whole number OF votes receiv ed, and
and set down in the abstracts. Why, who
could tell who had the highest number Of
votes!
Here, sir, appears the evident ohec'
for which the two Houses are summon ed
the Speaker proclaims, publishes the
vote, and the Houses declare Who has the
highest number of votes. Sir, this was
the practice. Go through the Journals,
and you will 6nd that committees have
been appointed TO count the votes and
declare who had the highest. This was
done in 1912 in Mr.. Shannon's o,se.
In order to show the Senator what the
practice was with some of the men who
framed the Constitution, | read from the
Journal of the year 1903 pagd 30.
"Wherenpon, the speaker of the Sem
ate and Speaker Of tho House OF Repre-
sentaives proceeded, in the presence Of
their respective Houses. to open AMI OK
anime the returns from the several caun
ties, Of an election for q ,vernor, agree
able to the provisions Of the constitu ion;
when on full and fair investigation anl
examination Of said several returns, the
speaker Of the Senate and the Speaker
Of the House Of Representatives, announ
ced to their respective Houses, the fol
lowing as correct statement of the votes
thus examined, viz:
Mr. Whitman then read from the
Journals Of 1907, to show th,t the course
then pursued was similar to that now
proposed. A joint committee was ap>
puinI IeJ-they counted the votes-tae,
gave the reasons which scluated them in
IN declaring the result, and they excu.
ded the returns from the coun'y of Al.
ans, because, as was now the case wi b
the returns from the county OF Ltrain, nj
seal Of Off ce was attached to the returns.
The report was presented and agreed TO,
and it recommended that Reuben j.
Meigs, having a majority of 9S2 of wha,
the committee consider legal v .tes.]
Mr.. Batkus. Will The Senator tell me
to whom that report was made!
Mr.. Whitman. r, the Sera'e, by a
member of joint committee, as report.
ed from joint committee TO the Speak.
er OF the Senate lhis morning.
Now, sir, these two Houses are indie.
pendent and the Speaker of the Senate
cannot control the House unless they
are joint rules. None have been adopt-
ed, aud how can you exercise any coutrol
uyer the Sp eaker of the House, or de-
prive him of his privileges. To what
conclusion are we br, ught? Why, sir,
that the the Speaker Of the House, and |
,he mem bers of this House have som mething
TO do in this matter. We come here, sir,
by joint resolution. That is the only
iigament that binds us together. Did we
contemplate any thing so absurd as .
merger! No, sir, we are here two indie.
pendent bodies, aud il the Speaker Of the
Senate undertakes to exerci,e any con. |
troll over the House and its Speaker, you