The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-10-25

oer. "a TEE defence OF ,hss w. Carpenter sAs
sPrscEs si,rrosp exsnined-Hss seen w. q rer.
CorssEL ron Posrourios objected 70 his evidence
they supposed IL was TO contradict Mr. fisrson and
they had not asked Mr. rerson n he kns~ or hal any
conversation with MI. Stafford.
COUNSEL ron Dsrrscr said they had asked rsrson the
question, II he had said Lovejoys Hotel ths,
Carpenter was . Troublesome man and should be pat
MIR. Prssos was here called to the siaad and SAID
never spoke to Mr. stafford In my lilo, nor have In
his hearing to my knowledge, spoken 81 tarpen-
ter; remember seeing him one night at Lovejoys
MIR STAFFORD continued-was sitting In Lo.-joy's
reading . newspaper In the back part q the room;
heard Pierson say to another gentlemen that
was troublesome man, and should bs got out u the
wav; tie "ex planAtion' struck witness.
Cross. sraminsd By Mr.. McKros Does not reeoIiset
the name Of the gentleman whom MIR Pi~rspn address
co nSpprnsa 10 sS%s IN, ins' ,our, ,h.n % nrson
to gentleman In court that he had heard fis-sou
make use Of that expression, and that person
never spoke to him till he met him evening It
Woods lottery Office left boarding at Lovejoys and
half years ago; has not been there these sx mouths
stops now at the Neptune Hotel In FULTON strest ts
street broksr WAS engaged from last fall to July sae
in chipping passengers for California; from lat January
lived upon his money, but declines to tell how he
ployed his money.
brought before him In July, ls4o.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL said that they really hal
rather not depend upon memory where written evil
dence could be given he thought they should produce
the complaint In writing The following question vas
put, and objected to by the Attorney General
Q-Wbat was actually done by Pierson before you
that day in reference to charges against Capente
Odd he prefer certain charges against Carpenter
A.-ies; one charge WAS taken In writings does not
recoect whether or not the second charge vas taken
Q.-what was the second charge,
The AIroRsEy GENERAL objected to parole evidence
The Jupas said, IL the charge was in writing we
cannot take parole evidence but until have proof
that was In writing, we cannot exclude the tesmo-
wrrSrss continued-Pierson wished Carpenter COM
counterfeit money witness stated If person could
bring evidence Of his passing counterfeit money he
would then commit him; thinks MIR Person said he
felt money; does not think he said anything more.
Q-Dd Pierson state anything else, except what ap'
pears on his information
Al think not his impression Is, that MIR Picrson
wished to have him committed that charge; witness
objected to DO so unless proper evidence was given,
and some one said but cannot say whether 1t was Pier
son or not, that Carpenter committed till next
day evidence would be produced; witness asked Pier
son questioos when the charge mads in relation TO
IT. cannot say whether he replied not interrogated
him, and has no doubt he answered; MIR Stewart Kept
the minutes but whether took down the charge aud
the answer witness cannot say does not recollect
whether IfrTsou sworn or not thinks ne was uot
has recollection that Person stated that Carpenter
had made any confessions or admissions to ha 4 any
Kind there was a charge against Carpenter made by
Cnmm, Of Carpenter being accessory after the fsct
has recollection ~ Mr. iierson Offering himself
witness In support OF that charge his saying ne knew
ything In relation TO it
Cross-tTamined. Does not recollect MIR. Person de-
cliuipg to say anything further on the natter does
not rseolsct Tr Bowman endeavoring t. get Mr. Pier
con to give evidence; does not recolect that IL
Bouusn made th. charge does not remember Pierson
expressing dissatisfaction At his Justice Drnker
not binding Carpenter over 20 keep th- peace dis.
med the charge Of the threat because he thought IL
frivoous does not remember whether he refused TO
bind Carpenter over to keep the peace thinks he did
q DO Won remember whether you did not bind him
because Of the want Of Jurisdiction or Whistler IL
A-Ee trst charged him with a threat In Bocklsnd,
and that d missed for want If jursdction; he then
charged that the threat continued in New York offer
ing Cramm rs witness, and dismissed that because
thought 81 was frivolous witness does not reco.ct
Mir. erson expressing any Dissatisfaction at this de-
csion; winners has examined the papers produced tn
appear be- ne papers OF The Police Court except
OF them. an upssorn ahdayit OF CraInm. Of when wit
noes Knows nothing with that exception they are cor
rcct The frat part in Stewards baDdyrtiog tho lat
ter in wiinefss.
TO Mir CuTLER Carpenter dismissed on all the
JonN DAnLrY. merchant tailor Knows Carpenter
did come business with him from the 10th to the
10th December. lSi5; measured him for clothing
the 10Th; tried them ON him on the 10th OF 2ls'
they delivered TO him In n lev days afterwards
Mr Carpenter was In the habit II coming in frequently
about that time to witness foreman.
MIR Mcktor read the bill of witness against Carpen-
ter, which Carpenter had written 1t, bill
Rendered 18th January Will not be paid tai 18th
February"
C.rHsrrrE MurrHr. q mild and interesting young
lad,1 sxamined-sa teacher; boarded at Mrs OiShea
90 City Esl Place in December 1sa6; boarded there
for three years from 1874 90 1si1 became acquainted
with MIR and Mrs. Carpenter, when they boarded
tbeIe took her meals ct the same table with them
Mrs Carpenter not absent any night to her know
ledge during the winter Of 1885 10 1915 according to
her recollection. Carpenter was more In the house
during December, 1915, than In February or March
does not REMINDER Any day during the month Of De.
osmtsr that shs did not see him at the table rsmem-
hers death occurring about the 24th 10th Of No
vsmb.r; between the time of that death and Chritmss
day has recollection % Mr.. Carprnter being ABB
cent any day did not hear anything 81 his going out
Of town, Intending 20 at that time.
Go" ,ranfwd BY ~. ATTORNEY GENrRAL-Does not
recosct hearing OF his Being out Of town from No
venber 1sIs TO ApI Isl6 has no interest In the
fairs Of Nit Carpenter more than she had in any II
the ether toarders u would he almost impossibls 20
MIR Carp. inter- 10 have feen absent day WITH -,
knowledge IL would have been possible for sse % Sle
other boaIders TO be absent during * ~, sna urs
Sarnsi,r sna "ns o. teo ors nan with many Of the
others does not recolect ~ nansrhr W.
was mere on boarder In the same house
n.rber 81 H. ady vho died there the 2otn .t No
49,, h.v sepoed that be did not recolect Carpen-
Tor isng absent any day between that time and the
sth December lsl5.
TO the ArronrsY CE~rrN-C srpenter may have
been absent day aud two nights, and he not e. re-
collect IL thinks he should recolect n he was away
80 long as two days and two nights
vas 20 In 1915 IL acquainted with MIR Carpenter had
business transactions With him In 1875 Carpenter vas
In business then he had money In large aud sm all
sums IL vas coed money vtoess transacted business
With MIR. Carpenter between the 10Th OF tpra u the
10th November ls45, to the amount o. WITHIN rac-
and teiling stock
Cross eram,nsd by Air McKtoS-sold hundred
shares o. the NorHch and Worcester Railway for Car
renter ne gave witness $500 TO secure him there
vas less on the shares which witness deducted, to
Qether with his commis sion and returned Carpenter
the balance in Carpenters operations in stock hs
Loot small amount Of money Carpenter was not .
broker; be called outsider lsughter). cannot
Say II arpenter al his Office In December 1si5.
10 MIR CurLft-hl gentlemen not brokers sr'
| called "outsidersD
AtrEEp CoLEuLIE abroker, deposed that Carpenter
transacted business with him from Februrry, lS45 &C
's7 TO the amount Of $50 900 the last transaction
With him IN 1s45 the 10th Of November he has
left $500 at time with witness, was all good money
| To the ArroRNEr GE~rpAL-Csnpst say how muct
Carpenter vas loser in the end when witness pur
chasedte held the stools and resold Them Carpen,e
never raid more than $500 at time " any loss yer
sustsiDed was deducted from that smeunt and II an
gain made II was handed over to Carpenter doe
| not knov W man named Oracle vas concerned wit
him In these transactions or IL any one stood benin
him and furnished the money.
| Don AIosso CusHNAv, being called to prove tn
means by which the Indictment against Carpenter -
procured the testimopy not admitted by the Jsdg
The evidence for the defence here closed and II W