The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-07-21
A. I cannot say, sir.
D How often did you see him ON board shin

A. cannot say, sir.
@. How often did you him on board ship!
A. cannot say exactly; perhaps twenty or thirty
times day; don't know his name; the man was tall
and OF rather light complexion; never saw him On
JoHr FHAscrs, residing in 18th street, being duly
sworn. tays he Is q baker by trade am % years Of
age. native Of Ireland was passenger on board
the packet s!iip Columbus on her last passage from
Liverpool to New York ! was what is called steer:
age passenger my berth the lower deck
knew Ans and Eliza Dickson, as being passengers on
board the ship my berth on the same deck with
Q.-Did you notice any improperly Of conduct
the part Of those girls during the VOYAGE and IT so,
state IL particularly.
Al came up once in the middle of the night on
deck went into the galley and heard noise in 1t
passed through and saw a man and woman there;
when saw 1t was them. did not disturb them-but
passed through to the other side stood outside on
the ladder to who sont in about Ave or ten
minutes saw Eliza Dickson come out aud go down
next the main batchwsy; did not go any further
after her than the hatchway | turned then aud
to the I'd cabin wext down then 10 my berth
did not see anything more.
Q.-Was this place, where you saw the man and wo-
Alt was, sir they not talking when pass
ed tho man went out of the other side | did not
recognise his face did not go to that eide at all but
saw the figure of man pass away. knew whore
the girls berth was situated.
Cross-eraninaiion i have seen the girls Ut night
walking by themselves deck
q. What part of ireland you from
A. ! AM from Belfast
q. What the number Of your BERTH
A. No 60.
@ Did you have any conversation with those
A Very little, sir
@. Were they not during the latter part of the voy
age, very often in the cabin!
A never saw them there before we arrived here;
] helped the new steward when he came to the
ship down with his trunk into the cabin
have been working on board the ship since Sa-
turday do MT know what my wages are to
to be; got a dollar and two cents for three
quarters of day on Saturday; suppose my wages
to be the same the other men; went on board
the chip on Saturday last they wanted hand and
engaged me; don't know that shall go out in the
vessel; don't think | will engaged in doing
aber work on board; have done no baking on board;
don't know the man that got the food cooked Tor the
Misses Dickson; | know him when | see him; | told
the doctor Of the ship-Dr Wilson, mean-on Thurs
day of last week what had seen in the galley; went
tohe Battery Hotel TO the doctor to let him know
knew something about it; told the captain on Men,
day Of this week
9. Has the h. captain ever given you any money
Q.-Has he promised you any,
A-No Sir.
Q-Has any one else promised you any.
A-No, Sir-lt was the passengers galley that saw
the man and woman IN; on that night only saw one
OF the Misses Dickson deck; 1t between IL and
o'clock; 1t was midding dark night; don't know
whether there moon not; 1t was Starlight; |
ted dirty trick on the CRATE in the galley and want
ed to find out who 1t this occurred about eight
ten days before we arrived in New York. when came
up went directly to the galley door; when went In
saw the man and woman standing up; went right
through the galley they were standing facing the bows
Of the vessel entered the galley as passed
them went between then and the stern did not speak
to them they to me; after went through wentand
stood at the ladder at the back Of the galley leading
Down into the second cabin the girl out first;
did not know who she before she OUT the
man came out almost immediately afterwards; during
little but could not hear what they said she came
out OF the same eide came out of folio we'd her in
stead Of the man, to see who she vas detected
the person who did the nuisance In the galley
the CRATE went several times afterwards to try and
detect the person ] have seen the Misses Dickson
late at night deck after the other passengers
have been or two others about but am not quite
fure the person that carried the food for me to cook
for the Misses Dickson, not y boy but q man: |
could not tell IL he wore cap hat; am five feet
six inches and the man was good piece taller than
me; his complexion was dark; | dent think he ha
wbisk.rs. hut | am not certain | don't know
certain whether the captain had whiskers; | re-
sided in Csxton street, Belfast, No. 81; | lived
there three years; after that I lived in Wilson
street about three four mouths after that lived,
suppose year, in Edwards street; was baker; Mr.
Hughes was my boss Of Donegal place; was born in
NewtoDards, county Down.
WILLIAM SMrH, being sworn, says-I reside at No
III Peckslip am seaman; am % years Of age;
was seaman before the mast the voyage In ques-
ton; knew Ann and Eliza Dickson, passengers en-
board the ship Columbus; knew them by conversing
with them we were about two weeks out when this
speaking acquaintance took place with them ! OBJ
served the conduct of these girls board the ship;
was at the wheel every other days I OF these
sisters, Eliza Dickson standing on the quarter deck,
on the larboard side right before the captains win
netice she crossed the deck right his way on the
other side; she put herself in the captains way in
MY imhgnatiou nun 10 speak 20 speak TO her BUS
never took any nstce that he did do 40; have seen
her do this frequently; suppose about 20 times.
q Was her Doing this subject Of general remark
by others on board the ship
lObjected to by Mr.. WHITirG1
objection overruled by the magistratel
A Yes, sir; 1t was by n great many.
O. Did you any conduct the part Of these girs
with any other person
A. ies, cir have seen the boatswain with them nj
different hours Of the night deck aud likewise the
third mate. Mir Hecksr, and have the boatswau
at their berth where they slept at late hours of the
night; that's all on the boat-wans account on that
point have seen the girls at between ~ aud o'clock
al night down below with the boats say timss
have aso them the deck with the boatswan
and the third mate late ut night; cannot say how
Oftep very often. the boaswain and mate
gether on these occasons some times IL would BE- the
bostswain, and at other times the third mate; they
sitting down these occasions they would sit
times hour times less rs supp esed they
had to 60 about their duty.
C'oss-ers"'nahon- was born In Buffalo; expect to
go out In the ship again.
AZ the conclusion OF tho testimony Of this witness IL
being o'clock tho magistrate adjourned the fur
tber investigation until IL ocleck on Tuesday next
Yesterday, Mr. David Graham appeared for the do
fence In the place Of his brother John Graham, who
was the day previous taken quite un~ell We under
stood that be was much better yesterday although
able TO attend to his business