The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-07-02

part were Of quite different opinion. He would,
therefore demand Of his colleagues Of the former cate
CORY what state Of things they wished to bring about
and to the Minister Of the Interior what he Intended
TO do under such serious circumstances, and whether
he was prepared for all eventuslities
M. PIER.E LERou! said that the hon. gentleman sp-
pesred DESTROYS part which he had frequent
y taken In the preceding Assembly Did he then think
that the whole nation wss comprised In that Assem-
ysregnty of the people was permanent 1t was clear
that those who feel persuasion that the constitution
had been violated might make en- appeal to the oouu-
son who had acted unconstitutionaly The docu-
ment which had been read said that the Mountain had
made an appeal to the national sovereignty but that
sovereignty may be exercised in other ways than by
arms-by petitions, and By the press. He considered
msnt it was not the act Of good citizen to snvenom
the debate. marks Of denial on the right
The MINISTER OF THE IsrERIoR did not consider that
the Hon. NJ Grandn in bringing forward the articles
published in the Journals, had acted in any way Ikea
bad citizen. (Cries of No! noD II nothing else re-
suited from II than to bring the hon gentleman who
had last spoken to declare from the tribune that he did
not wish for appeal to arms, NJ Grandn would have
speaker had declared that the national sovereignty
which had sent the representatives to the Assembly, by
the votes Of eight millions efmen, might always make it.
efheard by petitions and by the press The
fully recognised the right of pacific discussion; but
nothing could be allowed to go beyond that II people
were SO far led away as to make an appeal to arms-
they should fail in their duties citizens they must
be stopped in their or society would fall into
state of anarchy from which it could recover.
loud applause) He had wish to embitter the
present dscusson but he must observe that the Hon.
M Leroux had not been the faithful interpreter Of the
publications which had been made and Of the projects
which they contained He should confnc himself by
replying TO the Hon. Nj. Grandiu, that the circum-
stances he had alluded to had awakened the just So
lcitude Of the government The government was de-
cided to defend the republic and the constitutions and
II under the influence of some detestable idea, and
from dictatorial or demagogical interest projects
contrary to the republic and the constitution should
nal attempts with all the force at its command Cap
plause) who" said the hon minister in con-
clusion, " could not but tremble in thinking Of
the moment that has been chosen Tor such
provocations? What was it time to thus
endeavor to shake the republic and the constitution
when our brethren Of the army engaged in u
culinary struggle, when our brethren of Paris
laborng under the scourge Of frightful disease! Is
it time when the attention Of the government is oc-
cuped with such that should be chosen
to make an appeal to arms and to ince to insurrec
ton! Could 1t be believed that the government thus
occupied is not aware that it is fer it to defend
ciety, which has been audaciousy threatened IL
is unnecessary for me to that have adopted all
the measures imposed on us by circumstances. These
you will be informed Of at a future time; at
present shall confne myself to saying that the GO
vernment knows its duties, and that it will fulfil them
prolonged applause on the right, and profound ST.
lence ON the LEFTY
THE PREslDEsr-I am just informed that the report
Is ready The tribune is, therefore, to the reporter.
M. n. DARU-The urgency Of the proposition which
was yesterday made to you does not require to be point
ed out The question itself the manner In which IL
has been put, and the circumstances under which 1t
has been produced sufficiently show its urgency. Yes
terday Tor the first time since representative assem-
put forth q threat to have to That
mace, which is the most fragrant violation Of the
sttuton, gives to the proposition special character
The committee, therefore proposes to you declare
immediate urgency. AS to the value Of the propo,i
that the constitution has not been violated either in
Its letter or in it's spirit The expedition did not take
place for the purpose Of sitting Roman liberty but
when Italy, delivered up to demagoguical fury,
threatened with invasion ii important for France
and for Italy herself that France should be there
Once the expedition had been determined on, 1t
by force. The last Assembly understood that
when it said that Ciyita Vecchia must be entered
even by force. When the Assembly Afterwards
called on to give vote on the affairs Of Italy 1t would
not recall the expedition but attempt negotia-
faithfully omplished fresh negotiations took
place, which had not the result which expected
ject Of the expedition promptly possible not only
for the honor Of our flag but for the interest Of
have been pshsd In presence Of the new Assem-
by It is to it that 1t belongs to pronounce opinion
on them and long as that has not been
II cannot be alleged that the executive variance
with the representative power. From these considers
tions the committee unanimously proposes the imms
date rejection Of the proposition depreciation the
right
The Assembly, on being consulted the question Of
urgency, declared for IL INN edstely
NJ CAsGr (du rsrn) said that the question was whe-
hsr or not there had been violation Of the consttu-
tion, and he wished to know wh6t would be the ulte-
ror conduct OF the government on the subject and
whether. II the French army had entered Rome, or
should enter It, IL the intention Of the govern
cluded between the triumvrs and NJ de Lesssps (mur
murs in other words, whether 1t will continue
form Of government which the Romans wished to give
themselves.
The PRrspssr or rHr CouscrL was surprised at the
question just put to him. for he considered himself
der accusation lie declared that In spite of sense
lees resistance which the French troops had with
the intentions Of the government always the
same; 1t could not abandon lite policy (hear hsar) 1t
would continue, as far possible TO guaranty Roman
liberty 1t would therefore return good for evil Appro
I'm had init IN
which IL could not neglect without rcnounoing its
principles. loud approbstion)
what the would do when the French troops
were In Rome but whether the government guilty
mittee had justified the government and said that II
had acted In conformity with the wishes OF the Assem-
bly,. A report had been made bot, in his opinion, 1t
ought to be printed and distributed (Murmurs The
Roman republic had. IL known, been attacked by
the soldiers Of the French republic; but sufficient
proof Of the facts had been furnished Unterruptiop
and without them IL impossible to judge OF the
conduct Of the ministry. When these facts had been
denim the ministry but Il was NO, Wished to DO that on
light grounds Lsughter) lie could not, for his
part, conssisntiously pass Judgment without the
A Voice on the right-wby do you accuse then
M LAeLoDuRE said IL vas not an unusual thing to
accuse when crime had been committed, and then
wait to procure proof The dispatches we're In the
hand Of the government let them be comm Gated,
IN order that the country might not say, You con-
perfectly convinced Of the guilt Of the ministry but
before any de6ntive resolution was come to- he must
demand the communication Of oil the documents
nected with the affair.
NJ TocaurvILLE, Minister Of Foreign Affairs, said,
that he should have objection to the comm unics
ton OF the documents, for they would contain the
whole justification OF the government. Another
was that on questions OF such serious character
that nov under consideration, no adjournment could
be demanded. Hear. heart cry OF war had been
raised from the tribune and certain journals had re-
peatedit. To demand an adjournment was to prolong
dangerous agitation and to seek to work the pub
lie mind teegrsptic despatch had been received
which proved that the day when u said many
French soldiers had fallen there had scarcely been any
fighting at all and the operations had been confined
preparations for the capture Of the city Thus there
had been but little boodshed; and yet reports OF the
most rserious kind had been read from that tribune
The adjournment had now been demanded; but 10 vas
for the interest Of all that should be refused Eyes
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