The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-11-07

have been restricted BY principle Of prudent
meet al the cost Of the expedition up to the 3Ist of
Dsosmber but charges to you that it thinks
hasten speak to You Of that which essentially ints
rests you here namely the expedition ITSELF the motives
which led to it, and above all its in part
already realized and rest of bsns So
Clear hear Whom three years ago noble Pontih so
from the Vatican the signal to the Italian princes Of DO
iitical and social reforms all enlightened felt de-
sire to Italy enter with prudence the path thrown
open by Plus TX that she sho uid not compromise her
destnies by any Ill advised prsciptston that in
Of the States he should be contented with sdmnisrs
tive reformsthe of at later period preparing
Tor political that in the advanced she
should not think Of overlapping the limits Of the
pabe OF supporting the difficulties that in ali she
should adopt habits Of concord and union, pro-
did not depend on her to confer on herself The adysn
tsges OF confederation that above all she should not
together III tim ed and without hope for her as long As
Europe had not the misfortune Of being engaged In
general war and frally If that war of Independence
should arise from the of circumstances
potent than the will Of the Italians should
nounce their msersb internal dscords in order to
hurry to the 20 sndthe Adge Such the wishes of
enlightened men friends OF true barty friends above
all Of that interesting and beautiful Italy which for
all elevated minds second country And these wishes
were not formed after events, but uttered from
the tribune in the adjoining chamber in presence
throne which ceases to exist, and when we we're
all full of hope at the aspect general movement
which was extending from Naples to Berlin and Vienna
il promised, has only produced tsmpssts. Marmurs on
the left disordery faction which placed the salts
faction Of Its passions above the interest ofts cause
seized on Italy and precipated her iato abyss cloud
interruption)
On THE Lrrr.-It is not true!
FROM THE SAME ouARTER.-What you call patriots
faction! Agitation)
M THEIRS in continuation That faction excited the
populations to demand institutions out Of all analogy
with the state Of public feeling morals 1t urged
to republican form bodies OF the people who
the time incapable Of going higher than municipal and
provincial institutions. (Gurmurs the Left IL did
1t committed the fault which was sure to destroy
everything provoked in an untimely momsnt war
OF Independence, and that fault being committed, 1t
next added the still gaver Of turning against the
governments Of Italy the arms OF the Italian popua-
lions whom vas necessary to unite exclusively against
the formidable which had been foolishy
voked The consequences Of these faults we'll
known. Austria using the incontestble right OF war
reconquered Lombardy, invaded Piedmont the duches
Of Parma and Modena, Tuscany, and part OF the
Roman States. The independence of Italy, far from
having advanced, has refrigerated. (ntsrruption)
On the LErr-It is Jour work 1t is you who have
M THrrRs, interrupting his reading If the report
Gentlemen, when We shall discuss this matter, / may
think fit to reply At present stand here reporter
O ave only to reas the document which expresses
the views of the committee. -(Hear, hesr)
The PNrsIpnNr, 10 the Left-You think yourselver,
(Murmurs on the Lef) In the old blies no one
even thought Of interrupting report. (Noise)
laughter)
NJ THEIRS Tin continuation)-Liberty has net less
refrigerated than Independence. Enlightened be-
came discouraged and the dangerously let
lose, have been brought by physical force under
we're subsection Yet after so dreadful ship wreck
Was expected in ls47l Were there not some efforts
to be made to reestablish in Italy equilibrium over
which ali the powers have right to watch aud which
was broken to the profit Of Of them by the fault
Of those who had attacked it! France thought that
there were and that idea the origin of exps-
diton to Rome-an expedition which It is i'm ossibe
to decide fairly, without going back to the crcum.
stances which led to it, Austria after the battle OF
victory against the States Of italy which had declared
war on her, aid was about to march Parma Mode
ders in the Roman States afforded pretext for her
intervention there than Ia any other place The
Catholic powerr had met at Gseta to concert together
the establishment of an authority which Is me-
cessary TO the Christian world In fact without the
authority Of the Sovereign Pontin Catholic unity
would be dissolved; without that unity, Catholicism
would be lost in the midst Of sect and the world
already srievousy shaken would be overwhelmed from
top to bottom ,Murmurs on the LETT But that unity
would be unacceptable IL the rontn nde PEN
dent There In that circumstance interest of the
ought TO give way and which authorized the atholic
powers to restore Plus TX the ponthcal throne An
question arose whether France ought 10 soquiese in
Austria acting 90 and by that act having the power of
lordng it. both morally and physically, over nearly the
whole Of Italy There were but two ways OF pre-
venting that step-either war, the occupation of
government had not used when there chances
Of success-when the Austrians were forced beyond |
the Adg.; and II would have been madness to think
Of 1t when the favorable occasion was lost There |
uen remained the other means-for France herself to
and satisfy the interests 81 the Catholic nations by
was in the triple interest Of France, ChrtendSm and
Italian liberty, that this decided (Mur.
for the balance OF interests broken in Italy to the profit
OF the Austrians, would be In certain measure re-
TRANS we're in the other places already mentioned IL
In the interest Of Christendomfor that interest
really that the Sovereign Pontn should be truly in
DEPENDENT but that independence had less to suffer
by the action Of France who possessed nothing there
than by that Of Austria who possessed great part Of
the psrts which we're not actually In her power.
Lastly IL was IN the interest Of Italian lberty-since
although Austria bad herself undergone fundamental
revolution, although new ideas directed her govern
ment IL evident that the irritation natural after
struggle with tie Italian nations the apprehen
son II disorders, and the desire of preservisg
within narrow limits liberty wbish had produced |
such terrible us likely lead her to restrict
that liberty beyond what circumstances dsman aed-
perhaps 60 allow counter volution to be ef-
f.cted for vhics most shameful excuses furnished
only good pretext IL therefore evident that
Intervention on the part OF France ought to be con-
saered preferable to one on the part of Austris No
doubt there might arise from IL difficulties expense and
blood sptall Of which we're matters {. be considered
But " they TO BE- looked matters Of serious
prcm France in foreign affairs, they could be al.
legged of weight by those others who ready to
expend all the blood and the treasure Of France
the meet silly sterile and useless OF propa-
gsndifm. (bear hear) Its, in fact strange thing
that can be ready to risk the very exsence of the
country in formidable struggle In order to impose on
all nations single form Of government aud that they
will refuse moderate effort to maintain the bslsnce
OF European iphueDcee to prevent complete couater
revolution in country which interets us In so high
degree Italy However. II the efforts which the Ro-
man expedition to require not argument
likely TO b. accepted the part VI those who fire.
quenty propos. general var for the sghtss. inSi-
dents II merits to be well received by those Who believe
that France IL bound still for long time, long in
fact % the alliances 81 Europe are combined in their
present state restrict rather than extend her action
Between thote Who de ifed that the most insign1
can't event France houid ding herself 81 devastating
torr,n Into thu midst of european affairs and those
9th, Who pie ed that she 81 ould interfere in nehug
there Wa middle course of prudent and practical
character Which vas that France since the faults Of
faction bad been the ct the appearance OF To-
reign IN Itaiy shosd also proceed there to exer
cise her share 81 influence to diminish the Inevitable
amount u evil and TO from the ship Ct lts
ian liberty of the hopes conceived at the
sion Of Plus IN This IL what France has executed pru
IDENTIFY sud reolutey at the time 1t is that
In sending army che had to act against a republic.
But did that confederation render sacred the govern
meDt established &C the capitol We do not think
our constitution Is defective In several points, Uoul
mUimurs on the Left which may certainly be ALLOW
cd 10 mark since has itself aud provided