The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1849-07-21

the Misses Dickson were sleeping on; in going along
the eldest sister (Ann, was sitting apon chest
] went to her berth she was lying awake she put
her hand towards me; took hold OF it, she then drew
towards her; then kissed her; and, believe she
did me- after that she allowed to handle her about
her bosom; have often previously during the passage
across, her placing herself mean Eliza Dicksou)
where she not allowed mean the quarter deck)
any other steerage passenger, and standing by the
Captains window on the larboard side, and placing
herself in very improper position according to my
ideas. for vrtuous woman the way that she stood,
you might have part OF her person from the Cap
O. How often did you these girls looking out for
the person who used to cook for them in the manner
you have described?
A say twenty times.
q. Was he a passenger
A. He was a passenger with them on the same deck
Q. How often did you them deck with the
boatsw ain ut night, as you have described.
@ Did you see what passed between them and the
A. He had his arm around the waist of Eliza; but
his other hand was in position that cannot swear
what part Of her body il was resting on; when
noy them; then walked away forward
@ On the occasion when they put your hand upon
their persons in their berths you have stated how
were they dressed?
A. In their night clothes.
Cross-erauuinoron-Q. Did you ever have sexual in.
tercourse with either Of them!
G. What is your age!
A. am % years.
G. Are you married or single!
A. am married.
q. where does your wife live?
A. At 1868 Greenwich street
q, What time did you leave New York for Liver.
pool!
A. cannot say the date exactly when left for Liver
pool; were about thirty -four days going out; we
remained in Liverpool about four weeks or there
abouts am not prepared to questions ex-
actly; passage home "a days each passenger is
assigned berth by umber used 20 to every berth
every morning, and wake up the passengers for tins
purpose OF cleaning the ship; that was nv duty: the
performance Of that duty did not make acquainted
with the passengers except the Misses Dickson the
N rfi llarv
OF the liberty they gave me; woke up whole
ladies in the Storage and second cabin and ncrne-
age approached all their oerths in the same way in
the way OF calling them up; had intercourse with
any ladies lady from the time Of leaving York
until my return except the Misses Dickson only az far
my duty allowed me; had other curse with
ed; saw the man coming out Of their berth about
twelve days previous to our arrival 1t between
psst three and tour o'clock in the morning; think it
the Tuesday week previous to arrival that it
occurred had been unwell the day previous aud the
doctor had given dose IF medicine that was the
cause Of my going down that deck to the clo-
set VAS going to the water closet, and saw the man
before went into the water closet first saw him NJ
he just coming out Of the berth; Eliza and Ann
both lying in the berth which the man came
FROM cannot say that the girls awake; the man
had on something like a sleeping shirt and drawers.
cannot say he had any other clothing on; the man
went away forward by the chains and tried to avoid
me; did not follow him ] know he tried, be-
cause he sneaked away and hung his head the r,a.
son why did not trouble myself, because such q
piece Of business that did not me- ~ did
the water closet and stayed about 10 Is minutes;
was down there once previously in consequence Of the
medicine; the first time between III and IL clock
saw one at their berth then; on my return from
the water closet the second time, went back to nv
berth did not speak to the girls or ascertain whether
they we're asleep awake; did not ascertain who the
was that came out Of the girls berth that morn
ing; saw his face sideways as he came out Of the
berth; his face towards he side WAYS out
Of the berth he up frsm his feet he side
why's to me his left side wards and away
my berth located between the cabin and in.rme'
% N IN her
berth the Misses Dickson took the liberties with
me previous to my seeing the man come out Of their
berth; the had ~hiskers something like nv own:
guess he was second cabin passenger; he occupied
osrth on the same decs with the girls cannot say
how many male passengers were on that deck
q. Were there many male passengers on that deck
near feet high, with ~hi-kers'
A. did not observe particu larly, how many there
we're With ~hiskers, or without
a. Do you TO say that there we're 80 many other
male passenger that deck In size and
sons berth that you could not tell who he was,
A. could not swear to the man.
fQuesti0p repeated
A. cannot swear to the man.
a. Was there mere than one male passenger on that
deck near six feet high
q wss there more than one male passenger on tina,
deck who wore whiskers'
O. Were they all tall or all short men,
=, A. There were men q all sizes did not measure
q How long before you saw the nan get out OF their
berth did they pa, your hand on their person as you
A. As near a. can tell some eight or twelve days
q What time OF the day or night was IL that they
did thisg
TWAS when called them up In the msrDing at
about six o'clock they did IL only once.
q Did you ever put your hand upon their naked
persons at any other time
A. No. sir.
your hand upon their persons
A Nc, they we're not.
a ID they both take hold Of your hand together,
A Nc, sir; Anu took hold Of my hand fret, and {
reached little the berth and Kissed her; Eliza
t. oh held Of my hand and placed IL in playful
berth. she put my hand on her naked bosom.
q which hand oid she place on her breast
A. he left hand.
a Was the coverd over them
A. They were covered with quilt or something
a Did they not put their leg. out from under the
coverlid,
A No, cir.
q Did tliza place your hands on AIMS Breasts
q Did you touch AIMS Breasts
A. No. sir.
q Did you touch Ann at ALL
/ did
q. Ilow did youi
a. don't kno~ how to explain; II Il ratbera deli.
THE answer to this question was too ndecen. for
A. Ann placed my left hand on her person.
a Which Of the girls put your hand their person
q. Did you on that occasion propose or have sexual
intercourse with either Of them
a. No; treated them with contempt.
q. In what way did you shO~ or manifest your
tempt,
BY always keeping myself away from them, aud
never getting into cows creation with them
DID you always after that, avoid them, and have
no c'nvertAtion or Intercourse with them
A. did, sir
DID you ever kiss either Of them after that
Y Did you ever hiss either Of them before that.
A. Yes sir
Whsn--here-s on what occasions
a w tne,r own birth kissed Eliza and kissed Ann
In another persons berth
Do ron hnow the number OF the berth
nes think II was Ill cannot say positively
a. What countrymap you'
J am an tnglithmsn from the Isle Of Wight
O. Hew long have you been married mani
A. have been married niue years
@ hreyou going out In this vessel sgsint
don't know