The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1848-03-31

the word States before individuals"
This was agreed to-
Mr. JONES, of Tennessee said it was proper that this
measure should pass, but il ought TO be properly
guarded and limited. II should be guarded 10
prevent the allowances for expenses that the gov
eminent would no, have incurred. A State egisla-
lure, being in session, might be willing show their
generosity, and vote fifteen thousand dollars, while
other States voted a less sum. Some individuals
might have wealthy friends, who would make liberal
advances and for expenses that the United States would
not allow. In this way the measure would operate une
qualiy-as much as If the general government had
made the distinction in the first place. The amounts
granted and paid should not exceed the which the
government would allow in the There was
another objection If paid these advances, il would be
recognition OF right 10 transfer TO others power TO
make appropriations.
MIR STARKWEATHER moved to amend by pro.
satisfaction OF the Secretary of War. Agreed to-
Mr.. MCKAY said that, by the constitution, no money
could be drawn from the treasury, except by law He
moved that the resolution be altered to convert it
INTO bill.
Mr. HARRISON had no objection to this, but there
were precedents for the provision for payments by
lutluns.
MIR MCKAY wished the committee to attend to the
woriing OF the bill There three classes of expen-
duresthose for organizing, subssting, and transporting
the troops to the held There law providing for
the payment OF subsstence because by law, the volun
teer received fifty day for subsistence, and twenty
five cents day Tor forage If mounted volunteer But,
by this measure, pay for the subsistence. He
had objection that reasonable latitude be assumed
IN paying these expenses, incurred by Cities counties,
individuals, &c but there must be some limit.
There wide margin allowed here to the discretion
Of every officer to expenses incurred. Without the
provlso, officer could be paid for dnner-pary. He
admitted that if the government officers had not supplied
means for the subsistence of troops, those who furnished
them should be paid, but the United States ought not 10
pay for duplicate supplies
Mr. BURT said the objections were not well founded.
The volunteer companies often raised at place dis
tan from the rendezvous The volunteers received by
law allowance for subsistence before they reached the
place of rendezvous
Mr. MCKAY read an extract from the act on the sub
lect support OF his
Mr. BURT said the object of this resolution pay
the expenses incurred getting these volunteers from the
place OF organization to the place OF rendezvous and Of
hcers OF the companies aud others who advanced the
means should be paid, as every one would allow. He
did know that the objection another feature of the
bill was not better toupded After troops mustered
into the service OF the United States they provided
for by the government The provision for snbsising
stricken He moved an amendment accordingly.
MIR. HARALSON opposed the striking out of the latter
part OF the clause, or money advanced to the command
ing officer OF any regiment, &c Tor the purpose afore
said"
Mr. BURT explained that the first member of the res
oluon covered the whole ground.
MIR HARALSON argued that the first member of The
resolution dd not compensate those who advanced the
money ior deiraying expenses incurred These resolu
tons, like others, were construed strictly The strict
construction of this clause would exclude all those who
had advanced money If We intended 10 pay advances,
we had better say in many words. He called for
division of tue question, to take it separately
the striking of the foowing ''or for subssting
troops in the service of the United States !" and hen
the next clause cor for money advanced to the com.
handing ohcer OF any regiment battalion company"
Mr. BUR Withdrew his amendment
Mr. VANDYkE moved to insert the word "ralslng"
before the word 'organiZing' lost.
On motion of Mr., HARRISON, the following words
stricken OUT "or Tor subslsng troops the service
OF the UuIed States
Mr.. MCKAY moved to amend, so ais to provide that
money advanced gratuitousy should not be refunded
He did not think that was proper 10 encourage patriotic
and generous citizens who mad contributed to the cause
To ne here or compensation
MIR. POLLOCK said the amendment was serious
Election the patrolic Individuals who had advance
Some who intended gratuity, might upon sober second
thought, see lit 10 receive remuneration
MIR. BURT said the words OF the resolution SUI
hciently explicit
The nendment was rejected.
Mr. McCLELLAND novel an amendment, with a
view to conne the operation of the resolution to
where troops actually mustered into tile service OF
the United States
Mr. BURT said the resolution contemplated troops
mustered into the service of the United States Nothing
could be explicit.
Mr. HARALSJN suggested that the resolution was
limited by tue last clause to necessary and proper ex
Mr. FiCKLIN contended that the resolution was loose
Is wodel. and would cover every that could be
imagined. He suggested that the resolution would EN-
brace every of expense ncu red from the first
inception the design to raise company; and propose
anen by adding section, to the effect that nothing
shall be refunded for expenses incurred prior TO the
ganzaton OF the companies by the election OF their Of
fcers.
Mr. WICK said he was opposed to this measure alto
gelher, enabling great many persons to dip their
hands into the treasury, and commit what was called
petit arcenies A great many respectable men, who
would think of punderng the government, would
be induced 10 do by this from the gov
eminent These advances made by States, indvid
uals &c. through the impulse of patriotic feeling, ought
to have been and there was proprey IN reundng It,
Nobody stopped to talk about money when volunteers
were called for in his State. Money contributed by
some while Others for like reason offered their SER
vices as volunteers The money offered without
any expectation of return. He obliged to sit here
and witness great deal of stealing that he could not
prevent but he would vote against this scheme for
couraging it. Some little of this money might go to In
reflection on the individuals who had advanced money to
refund it. The States had acted in great many cases,
in careless negligent protuse hand over hand manner
individuals who offered money did not do 1t without a
motive. Let that motive be their compensation. they
might have done it Tor popuarlty-n the hope OF being
elected as sheriff member of Congress and they might
be compensated by that hope. He opposed to the
whole resolution, and would against It, But, If the
resolution should pass, he wished it to pass with an
saton OF the aljuant general OF Indiana, who had DIS
charged, without pay, important and laborous duties IN
the organization of the volunteers
Mr.. w IS amendment as follows
And also make proper compensation TO the adiutants
of their services in and about raising
dAps volunteers, and experimenting the prior TO
| their being mustered into service
| Mr. LAHM, after stating his design to have leave of
absence for few days for Offering, at this
and upon this question: his views OF the war and OF
the provision of the ordinance of 1897 which was incl
denaly under discussion yesterday proceeded to dehne
his position and TO say that, IN obedience to what he I'M
Jars IN he mi iofhi well