The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-05-24

n Il sivsa 10 Nv York douh,s power. Thy might,
In their own case neutrase other States He did not
think 1t fight to appoint two from that State the
COMMITTEES when each Of the othef States had but one
He wished to propose an amendment-that each OF the
New York appoint member to advocate and pre-
sent their claims; and having done SO to withdraw,
aud let the members from the other States decide who
are entitled to seats f. Read the anendment"l If
the secretary would take 1t down, he would word 1t.
Loud cries Of question:" "queston."l
The Chairman put the question, and vote was
taken.
MIR. CAMBnELEN0 (Barnburusr) arose. ['' Member
up member up"] wish to address the chair.
adopted.
MIR. PRESTON KlNo, (Barnburner) | contest it.
Mr.. YANcEY-Did the gentleman from Ohio propose
amendment?
Tho CHArRMAN-I know not.
MIR. YAScEr-I made an effort to address the Chair.
Those who make and unmake great men, did not see
us here. [Applause To have a fair vote move that
the vote be reconsidered
Mr.. HANNE0AN-That's right.
MIR. ToucEY, of Connecticut said it was very obvi-
that there diversity of opinion in the
vention on two propositions which had been submit
ted The gentleman from Ohio, arose and proposed
anne ndment to the chair, and without having
opportunity to put it to vote the question taken
on the resolution II Is proper therefore to moyea
out any question.
A MEMBER-A number of gentlemen did not under
stand the state Of the when the question put
else they might have defeated the vote
Mr.. YANcEY declared himself opposed to the resolu-
it be two
who have now seats in this body, and selects from
their members to be put upon the committee He
makes them judges In their own MIR. Yancey con-
ceved that the proper course to be taken this
Let the delegates whose undsputed organ
and er ssms 5ot @o
upon the committee would be the right Of both sets
One must be right. and the other wrong.
Mr. HANNEGAN said that he was authorized, by both
delegations, to say that neither wished nor would
they consent to serve the committee The Utica
convention delegates desired to be heard at the bar
The vote by which Mr.. Cones resolution was adopt
ed, was reconsidered
way which he thought would best facilitate business
fthere was any disposition ON the part Of the oonvsn
ton to have IT modified he was willing to adopt the
suggestion Of Mr.. Yancey.
The amendments and resolutions got mixed up
among points Of order, which were briefly discussed
Mr.. TLDES, (Barnburner) arose and commenced
speaking.
The CHAIRMAN reminded the gentleman that he was
not speaking to the question.
Mr. TILDES-We desire to have the substitute so far
modified as to confne the committee to investiga
in this case it is of deep interest not only to New York
but to the democracy in all parts of the Union We
desire the judgment of this assembly, not to be
floor. (To member) If the Secretary will have
tho goodness to read the substitute again, l be-
the purpose believe that oil the delegates from
New York will assent to it. know no reason to
the contrary.
MIR. CoNE's substitute was again read.
Mr.. TILpES-I wish to amend 1t, e. Hear him,'D so
that the facts may be ascertained by the committee
but without the committee expressing any determi-
A delegate here and asked question. How
long will 1t take to make President ~ (Ha haD
Dir. TILDEN resumed his remarks. "a voice from the
LEFT: We can't hear you over there, come into the
middle of the house.'D
Mr. Cone, (whose position near to the scaifold-
ng2 Yes, the speaking does US on this side no good
e. Come to the middle.'0
the centre.'D This great question to New York.
and to the Union. Allow me to say, that hope in
the disposition Of this question there will be deter
mination on the part of oil members, to investigate
with fairness and frankness; that there may be
technical articles to prevent fair hearing in this
case sorry zee 80 much impatie nee ma ifest.
ed to deprive the Of New York from
the floor. We wish to be heard tho main question,
to the validity Of title represent the democra
hear you; come to tho centrel will be through In
moment desire the &C mmittee to investigate the
facts and state the result to the convention for its
judgment, and then desire to be heard.
The CH.isMANmThe gentleman will present his
MIR TILDEs-win you send me the amendment here
('No" "no."]
Senator Dickinson, (old Hunker)-we would have
no objection to be heard at the bar In
jected by the committee | would suggest the gentle
man to alter the form Of his anne dment, that
sass to hi thew
are not to be heard at the bar. The committee may
report what States entitled to vote.
Mr. PREsroS KING was understood to say that his
delegation would not serve upon the committee.
Mr. CesE accepted the modification of MIR. Toucey,
MIR KIsc.-We are unwilling that the committee
shall decide upon our case. We want the convention
to do 80.
Senator BaIGHr (of Indiana).-I believe that this
question can be fairly settled by taking up the amend
from Georgia" "He thinks that he's in the Senate
now-ha ha.' II the committee report upon
ficting claims, will be setting here ten days
"Yer, q month"; Let the committee say who are
he de m he hear
at the bar Believing that the resolution Of the gen.
tleman from Georgia all the ground, move to
lay the genteman's (Mr Tildens) anne dment the
table, and call for the previous question. [Agreed
agreed.''] My object in making the motion Is to see
the body organized.
Mr. PREsroN KING took the floor rather the seat
(for he got upon it)
Mr. BaIoHr called him to order
The CHAIRMAN decided that he out Of order.
Mr. KING.-On what point.
The CHArRMAS.-The previour question has been
moved, and it is not debateable.
Mr. KrSe.-But had the floor before the gentle
man from Indiana made his motion.
Mr.. BRIoHr.-My object was to get organized; but
the gentleman is sensitive, will withdraw the
ton.
Mr. Kso-I believe that, to arrive at the facts, will
not occupy hour 1t is certainly important that
they shall be ascertained decision Is to be made
upon them. Is this convention to decide by caucus
ing! There has been an apprehension that our case
would be disposed Of in some such manner. will not
however. make such mputations until have reason to
dose c'Order," Orderly We claim to be the right.
in the ordinary md usual manner and have right to
sit here. We want the convention to decide the
question. We ask the convention to report according
to the facts We desire to be heard ut the bar the
facts.
MIR. DICKINSON (Per contra for the hunkers)--Only
word. The very atmosphere, political and natural,
admonshes us to keep cool. CSpeak louder.'D We
willing to conide the matter to committee selec
ted by this convention. We have heard Of potscoun
terplots pit falls but take it granted that
twenty nine sovereign sisters will take the matter
and dispose Of rghtfully 1t is of very great
interest to the democratic party, and not without in
terest to some other party too (Laughter) There
Fore we will not arrogate the right to repre-
eide this. (Appause) That is proper. II we
admitted to seats in this convention, we
will render you best services If not. we will give
you what is extremely desirabe-a little more room
Applause Let us have the report in the usual man
ner. Let the committee report according to its
discretion, and that report can be discussed here
trust friends will be required to give pledge to
support the convention. In order to make Roadway