The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-07-23

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Mr.. MoKAr-I am not going to tell what passed in
committee lia hs hs D There was prsPo,iton
in the COMMITTEES Of confer discussed; but IL was
not agreed 10. have before me the act making ap
preparation Of the three millions 1t 10 not in the &C.
neral appropriation bill at al
NE. Hupsor-I know what say. It was not report
Cd to the House. Two mbers Of tho committee told
ne that the committee came together AID
their doings They were driven 10 rece 10.
Mr.. McKAr-The committee Of conference n,vsr
agreed to any suoh thing
MIR. HUpsoSl have the declaration Of two witnesses
TO the contrary ask whether thu gentleman dii not
advoc ate and go for 1t? Mr. Mckay not he ard to
answer, and there was laughterl The gentleman has
Speaker gave his ss.ne tos (which ani
the appropriation for Savannah river in the bil)
have had an intmstion from on or two senrces that
there may be another "onemAn power We are
told that II the bill shall pass in its present form il
will not receive the executive approval and signature
{. Who told you ?" !" Who said thatg']-and that
this influenced members to strike out the appropri-
ston for the Savannah river. | will vote to carry the
bill through and hope that every gentle who u
favor of giving the necessary means to carry the
government will do likewise; and hope that every
gentleman who is in favor Of internal improvement
will stand by and pass the BILL with the appropriation
for the Savannah river in 1t and II the President
turns the bill with his objections let him do it. am
prepared for him. will pursue that policy which
deem wise and hest. am not to be intimidated. lie
may send his Cabinet minions here to eectoneer for
him as he had done heretofore will vote for the bills
which meet my appreciation whether his ministers are
here not Let him veto this appropriation bill II he
dare [" He will do it."l 1t is said that he will do it
bat he win not [s He will."l Does any suppose
that at the close of session. when the
~ necessary to carry on the government that tho
President will veto bill because there is item
he do not q prove
AFEw QUESTIONS, ENLIvENEp ny AN ANEcDorE
MIR. TUHNER-I will ask whether the particular
clause referred to was not put in the bill to provoke
veto
MIR. HupsoN-I can say for myself that such a
thought never came into my mind The suggestion
was made in committee directly or indirectly.
Accord ny to my best belief, there such inhu-
Qrn hishl .1 10 to t.O.r
Mir. TURNER--I ask why were not appropriations for
the Mississippi and Ohio rivers put in. they nd
In the position with the Savannah river? Works
have been commenced and not completed there.
Mr.. HuDsoS-This, it seems to me. is rather X
ception AVID particular case. The distractions
there were placed by government itself, and here by
Mr. TURNER noti err question.
Mr. HUpsoN-The gentleman can vote for the bill
with propri,ty The Baltimore Convention not in
favor of general system of internal improvements
Mr.: MEApE-Wil the gentleman permit ma to say a
word!
MIR. HupsoN-Yes, sir.
Mr.. TURNER, (who had not taken his seat)-One
more question.
Mr.. HupsoN-No, no. don't give way.
Mr. MEADE-The gentleman has permitted me to
Mr. Hupsor-I don't yield the floor | say, that to
vote for the appropriation for Savannah river will
come into conflict with the Baltimore Convention.
That alludes to general system. Here is
or a part of a system (Mr. Hudson here paused;
Messrs. Bsyy aud Meade Immediately and i'm
patiently called out loudly, "Mr Speaker" 'Mr.
MIR. Hudson, who ssid) have not yielded the floor
yet sir And the laughter that succeeded hearty
Mr. M.ApE- ask whether the gentleman heard
that tie Pre- ident would veto the bill with his clause
after the vote in the committee to exclude it?
fully and cannot do better than by telling
dote. man who little intoxicated-I don't
met to apply this to my friends-(.Ha ha. hanD
Mr. MEADE-He who drinks thnAs so of his friends
CHA! ha. ban)
MIR HupsoN-A man who little intoxicated
was asked whether he could answer certain question
He raid he could The gentleman propou ndsd ques.
ton g Oh can answer that. 1t is easily answered
and foolishly asked" (Ha hal If whether heard
mute or one hour after is to control the vote, don't
care.
ate that the question foolishy asked and had
application. DO so understand
MIR HvDsoN-I simply related an anecdote. [aa
MIR MrADE-I have only to reply that the question
pertineptly asked, for if the gentleman and his
party learned that the President would veto the bill
after the vote taken, in committee, 1t explains
readily the conflicting votes of the &c ntlemsa md his
party in committee and in the House, the object being
to entrap the President.
MIR VINroN-I ask whether the Preside mt has given
out in advance, that he will veto the bill? lD
Mr. MEADE-I can't answer; don't know.
MIR BAyLr-lt can be answered.
Mr. MEADE say to the gentlemen on the other side
that they ask foolish and imp-rtinent questions.
Mr. hvDs0sII can only say that SINCE the last vote
1t has no influence on me. as have not since been
called upon to VOTE and 1t can have no nue upon
me. will not deviate ghth of hair from dread
Of Executive displeasure. Gentlemen the other
side who wish to the President from vetoing the
BILL anxious to remove the Objectionable feature.
Mr. CLARK understand that, a Lumber of years
ago. appropriation was made to construct the Cum
berlxnd dam, in the Ohio river. The dam partly
and, being left unfinished, much of it
washed away. ask the gentleman to draw distino-
lion between this obstruction in the Ohio river and
he obstruction in the Savannah river. This bill con.
aims appropriation for the Savannah river and
Tor the Cumberland dam. t..lt
Mr. vINror- Did not the gentleman vote against it?
Mr.. CLARx-Yes, and will always do so. But that
Mr. HuDsos-t was not put there for the reason that
it would run against the Baltimore Convention.
MIR. CLARK-1hen. according to the gentleman
ly one Gaze can be provided for
MIR HrpsoS-I say So in accordance with the Balti-
more Convention. ctFr ff -,faft 9.
MIR CLARK-Does the gentleman say that action
here is controlled by the Baltimore Conventon?
Mr.. HUDsoN-Not on this, but on the other side Of
MIR CLARK-Explan the differe nee between the OBJ
sIuctiops in the Savannah and the Ohio rivers.
the Savannah river. to keep the British from coming
in and those in the Ohio were placed there for facil
tating commerce, by means Of a dam The gentlemsns
President vetoed the bill which would have raised the
dam to it's he eht.
THE vETo--wHIG TAcTIcs-A QUESTION vERACIrY
General BAYLY took the floor he obtained It
after struggle He differed with his friend from North
Carolina, in this that the effort of the wings to
introduce irrelevant matters in appropriation bills
not without precedent. He alluded to the conduct
of the wings in trying to make President Tyler back
cut from his position, by putting into bills things
which he could not sanction. The appropriation Of
money for the Savannah river in the bill now before
thu was in perfect keeping with the they
heretofore pursued and, judging the future by the
past, the policy will hereafter be- pursued This item
put into the bill to provoke the veto of the Pres
dent He would gay this that the President has given
no private intiDation that he will veto the bill but
bis principles before the country and 1t Is not
reasonable to suspect that he will do so.
Maryland-I O n a nj
vils6e ths Gsptleman has no right to refer to the
optnio1 ~ I1ssident.
my. - &ould have been better If the gentle
man eb objection sooner. No allusou was
bere nd ON ions Of the President, until they
wers medt I'D on the other side.
MI. EvANl init.
Mr.. BAsLv- D3cIy there Is nothing like specifca-
ton. Think tkntthe first gentleman who said any
thing the eutject was the gentleman from Massa-
chusetts, (Mr. Hudson
Mr.. EvANs-The gentleman is altogether mistaken.
The frat aIIusion the democratic side Of the
House. ] the look out to whether the pri-
opinions of the President would not be brought
here. think 1t came from the hon. gentleman from
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