Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1848-02-12


tiOne, Get rs the law lasts long the reason lasts
This or ought to be, equally true OF the usages oil the
House AS long petitions actually reported upon by
the committees 10 which they REFEREED ere might be
less reason for printing Them because then they became
10 the House and the country in another way But by va
nous aces the right of petition had become reduced almost
to nuly So far had this process gone that 1t was now
difficult so much TO present petition to the House. SO
bring the prayer Of the petitioners to the Knowledge Of
the members and the country, aud all the trouble which, In
consequence OF the strong interest in It's object had been taken
in preparing thus absolutely thrown away feunon
day only occurred fortnight fell on the only day IN
the week which the rules and orders could be suspended
and the recent practice had been suspend the rules on that
day. as to afford opportunity for IN one
another fo any other business which was thought
Pcant enough to justify exclusion OF the people IRON the
right Of presenting their memorials their servants this
floor Mr. r. had had petitions on hand for more ihan Elk
weeks from between three and four thousand ministers and
aymen OF the Unitarian denomination, besides Others when
he had not been able yet to get opportunity TO present.
answer to him to say that, by another rule Of me
House, he could hand his petitions any time to the Clerk
to so 10 committee Suppose he wanted to refer memo
rial 10 select committee; certainly the Chair would mol raise
without Of the House. Besides, Mr. r. had only
spoken public when he had said that there were Pc
ons subjects very interesting TO their sgne and to the
couny which, things Stood We're doomed be
heard of moe after they got into the hands OF the standing
committees of this House The only chance Tor them TO come
before the House and before the country was by being PRINT
ed And this poor JUSTICE at least he should give his vote 10
render to the highly respectable gners OF the memorial now
presented by his friend and colleague
Mr.. HENLEY to question Of order
Mr.. PALFREY hoped the gentleman would not interrupt
him. He did not interrupt the gentleman from Indiana
Mr. HENLEY said he would interrupt the gentleman from
Massachusetts,. The pending question was on the motion 70
print.
Mr. PALFREY said he was strictly in order.
The SPEAKER also understood to decide that tne
gentleman from Massachusetts in order in audng to
facts as illustrations Of an argument.
Mr.. PALFREY said he believed he could satisfy the gen
eman from Indiana himself that he in order in the re-
nd the
He maintained that this memorial which came from the con-
ference of Friends ought be printed because IN no other
way would in the ordinary OF things come before me
House. When such memorials that which he held IN his
hand and that presented by his end-memoas TO which
signatures obtained with much palms, indicating great
interest in the subecwee presented to the consideration
of the House. if the House would allow the rules pertain
matters OF that kind to be carried into eec they were
be buredn the hands Of their standing committees then ne
said most material and important that the House should
print them least that through the medium Of the
petitions might be brought to the Of the House and OF
the people large It say this that he had risen, and
the gentleman from ndana would that his argument was
pertinent. He should vote for the motion to print
Mr.. HASKELL moved the previous question.
Mr. COBB, of Georgia, moved to lay the motion to pint
the memorial the table which motion to lay the table
was decided in the negative.
The House refusing to lay the motion TO print on the
table
The demand for the previous question seconded ard
under its operation the memorial ordered to be printed by
yeas and nays, as follows
YEAs>-Messrs John Q. Adams, Green Adams, Ashmun,
Barrow Blanchard Botts Brady Buckner, Butler, Candy,
Chapman Clapp Cngnan Cooke Collamer, Congcr Grams
ton, Crisheid Crowel Crozer, Dekey, Dixon, Donnell
Duer Daniel Duncan Garnett Duncan, Dunn, Eckert Ed
wards Enbree Alexander Evans, Nathan Evans Farely,
Hale, Nathan X Hail, Moses Hampton, Haskell, Hepy,
Elias b. Holmes, Hubbard Hadson Joseph r. lngersol,
Irwin jenkins, John w Jones, Daniel p.King, VIM. l.
Lawrence, Sidney Lawrence Lincoln Melivine Marsh,
ton, Pollock Putnam Reynolds, julius Rockwell John A.
Rockwell Roman, Root, Rumsey ST. John, Sehenek shep-
perd, Sheriff. Sylvester, slinserand, Caleb b. smith, ru-
man Smith, Andrew Stewart srohm, Iallmadge, Ihbo-
deaux, Taylor 1ompkins Richard w. Thompson John b.
Thompson, Wm, Thompson, Thurson Toombs, Van Dyke
Yinton, Warren, Wentsorth, White, Wilson'S.
NAYs-Messrs Atkinson, Beale, Bedinger, Bingham,
Brdsall Black, Boeock Bowdon, Bowlin Boyd, VIM. G.
Clark Beverly L. Clark Howell Cobb, Collins, Cummins
Daniel, Dickinson, Edsa, Faran, Featherson Fieklin
Henley l Ssorss oaon gs
ANDREW. Johnson Robert w. johnson, George W. Jones
La%pEin, Maeiay, Mccieiland Meciernand '" Mckay
McLane Mann, Miller, Morse, Sicol Peek Pctrie
Peyton, Phelps PilsbqTy Preston Richardson, Rlehey
weather. Stephens Charles f. Stuart Thomas Jas Thomp
son, Turner, yenable, Williams, Wiley, Woodward--ss.
4 SO the memorial ordered to he printed.
THE LOAN BILL AND THE WAR
The House resolved itself Committee Of the Whole OF
the state of the Union, Mr. BORIS in the chai) and pro
ceeded to the consideration Of the bill authorizing loan
exceeding SIS, SOC, 600.
\ Mr. MARSH, who entitled to The floor from yester
day, addressed the committee during his allotted hour in
speech OF his usual deliberately finished style and rapid deye
W. The Reporter only present such brief and imper
feet outline of its general features he able TO CATCH
Mr. NJ said that be proposed to avail himself Of this
sion TO do what be had before attempted do in th
place, express his opinion aud that which he bcev
ed be the opinion Of large majority Of his constituents
and, he hoped of the whole American people, on the
causes motives Objects and dependencies Of the existing
with Mexico, and winch would induce him against tho
further prosecution of hostiles which, though avowedly
commenced FOR defence, obviously I've carried
the purposes of conquest The advocates of the war said thai
il late TO stop, and the only question be
tied was what ought 10 be adopted bring the
speedy termination possible, and obtain such peace
should be honorable TO and just adyersares
would be- did OF absolye from all moral respon-
sbiies those Of the human family who happened be
enemies Mr.. M. who had been able TO
the distinction between public aud private morality, and
who held that there broad distinction between for
the defence and maintenance Of existing rights and for
the successful establishment Of new claims
In Judging Of the propriey Of prosecuting any war; it
material inquire into the design aud purposes for which the
war had been commenced otherwise, could know
whether the had accomplished its end In regard
TO this war was unmporiant TO distinguish between its pr-
mary and its immediate II now he be-
eved pretty generally il universally admitted that the
primary Of with Mexico the annexation Of
Texas tho proxmae certainly the advance Of the
United States army the banks Of the Rio Grande but il
did not therefore follow that the necessary
guence This Cabinet might be responsible for the actual
existence q the war; though its predecessor might have pro-
duced thai Of things Of which had grown. II the
Administration bad been guilty Of prccptang this dire calam-
sfU IT, a.