New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1848-12-21

were Understood 70 be that he did not think that the
organization q the Committee on l-rrtorie- la-'er
had been done TO the South. There 'ere UPON ga
Committee three members from the >outn ana ou' OF
Inst number there vas not belonging ~ tnAt party
which BAD lately achieved triumph N tho fresden
tai election. u hs motion for ne" commit shoulI
prevail be hoped that doe proportion OF Nh.s shn
Democrat. from the south would be placed upon =
Teliers were called for. and Messrs MADE and DrN
r cAN were appointed.
And the question being again taken. the vote stood
Ayes IS Noes -.
70 the amendment rejected
TIE rAziFF-
NJ Rux.ET moved - amend the iin resolution, y
striking out the words, the Iarirs OF 40 .he -
and 10 "a he following a. an additional resolution
Resoirsd That much 81 The -aif message a. rrsi-' 20
tie ..s Of lsss ard si - referred 20 ne Comn--
90 dsoufscfuresr
/ M Core OF Ga said ne would move, a. AZ amend
meme the amendment 20 sdd the Conmlt,ees OF ~
ricuifur. and Commerce. In order that our Isr1 cys
might hs considered with reference not only % me
Manufacturing Interests but also 20 TIE Agricultursi
and Commercial interests
Mr. CT IxoEzsoLL said by referring this subject 10
the Committee Manufactures u gets its appropriate
direction. for this simple reason There were gentle
men tbs House who thought this altogether reve-
nue subject there others who did not mink a. -
lie (Nr vas one Of those who had always acted N
der di-erent impression He had voted the other day
with some hesitation upon tie resolution OF MS col
league over the way Mr.. EcXERT for referring % the
COMMITTEES II Ways and Means the question Of the
pr0pretv OF establishing Tari- based upon the prnci-
pies Of the Tariff Of l-i2 he had regretted VIVA, ap
yesred the perpexity Of the language u the resoiu
ton bad spoken Of Taria based upon the principle al
specific duties and Protective Isrir he should nave
liked il good dea better because these had Away
been hi. principles and be thought would De 10 the
end
from the Committee on Manufactures. and reierring
the -abect % any other Committee, they would pre-
clude-they would shat ogt-they would settle the
whole question By declaring a; once mat was gree
ton OF Revenue and not question OF MANUFACTURE Or
whatever thew pleased 10 cal Il that Il not Pro
iva. not necessary now, he thought, enter into
the question, which was right and which was wrong
There had been some evidence given IN the ate e!ec
t,n the opinions Of The people upon II
Mr.. COsB. dn bis seat Wneree0olt
Mr. lNGERsoLL.-ln Pennsylvania But let tnst pass
All be meant 10 sAy wss lhst the subject should 90 70
the Committee On Manufactures or those who thought
TIL. not 4 mere revenue question were 81 once
precluded from the confederation "nlrh insy desired
Mr. COBB wished 10 inquire OF the gentleman from
Pennsylvana whether la considering this subject IN
reference protection, be thought the agricultural sud
commercial Interests Of the country we're Al al 10 pe
consulted whether the farmer and the man engaged
~ commerce we're interested Ia this question
slr lNcEHsOLL replied very much. There was
Committee on Agriculture aud Committee on Com.
m.rce, ana % these Committees on Agriculture and on
Commerce ct the appropriate portions OF this subject
b. 20 cicav referred but do not refuse to refer that
part OF the Message which relates 20 the question II
protection tho Committee on Manufacturer for they
would. Ia that case. az once preclude those Who IKE
him believed this 20 be question Of protection, from
that consideration which they desired
Mr. COBB. with the permission OF his friend from
pennsy vsnis desired 10 ask II the gentlemen looked
upon the Tariff question - purely a manufacturing
question
Mr. lSoERsoLL-Yes msiny so, certainly. "a
laugh
Mr. HOLMES Of : c. desired to ask the gentleman
question.
Mr INGERsoLL-Yes. certainly. / shall willingly
respond 10 any inerrogatories that may be made by
any gentleman.
81 HOLMES wished then to inquire under VIVA, cate
sOry the penDsy yana coal csme-whether under that
OF manufactures or agriculture Cor excavations
Mr. lNGERsoLL-Un der neither II belonged 20 the
list Of minerals Laughter
Mr. HOLMES desired 20 ask the gentleman another
question. Did not the gentleman, In his advocacy OF
the reference Of this question 10 the Committee on
Manufactures mean 70 Include the mineral interests
the interests OF Pennsylvania coal
Mr.. lNGERsoLL-No. II the Committee think proper
10 include them shall include them but At al events
there IS another substance coming from the earth not
altogether coal but something more valuable than the
gold of California
Mr HOLMES Then do ! understand the gentleman
TO say that he hss reference to coal and desire
for an increase OF the duiy uponit
Mr.. lNGERsoLL.- am rather inclined o. think there
is occasion for increase OF duty upon coal but
there certainly for increase OF the duty upon iron
That 10 TO the gentleman and now, II there
nerrog atores TO be addressed to me will lake
my seat will repeat however, that my object IN rs
ing 10 express this sentiment that by taking
this subject from the Committee on Manufactures you
put tud 70 the Rhoe doctrine Nncn - entertained
By some members this floor and large portion Of
those who from the State which nave the honor
IN par, 10 represent
4 running debate here occurred between Mr. GKs |
Try Of Tenn. and Mr. HOLMES of :. G.
Mr.. THOMPSON of Pa said when the subject of the |
Tariff bill under the consideration OF Congress be
tween two ADD three years sso he was one OF the few
members Of the Democratic party who hsd protested
against is passage He had opposed Il most conscien
uously freseeing, he thought the Effects OF the
change so sudden aud radical IN the adoption OF
-. tItans
cple-iOreseeing, AZ he believed, that Il was going
10 have great eiec, upon the future policy OF he
country He should leave 10 those Of the present
dag 90 decide whether his predictions then were right
or wrong What had taken place had taken place,
and could be altered tie had voted the other day
the resolution OF his colleague the other side
Of the House Mr. EcKERr for the rsusctstion Of the
ari Of -i2 tie had hesitation Al all IN saying that
would not return TO system deemed Odous, and
which would necessarily destroy itself Ia very short
period OF time The Tariff of l-i9 sent forth 10 the
world bearing the marks Of IL own condemnation and
that OF some OF It's friends upon ii bad carried with
In It's bosom the seeds of It's eventual destruction
had Ia the process OF time that they had sprung
up. and It's destruction consummsted
Now, sir, what followed The Tara Of 1916 sir
said he) opposed this measure earnestly and with all
my might IL was radical change new principle
one that thought wrong and which In many partlcu.
are still think wrong And now Sir. 20 tor a mod.
lcston Of IL change 10 suit the wants aud interests
Vi the country ! am not welded to da,es-the bill Of
he 30th August l-42-nor 10 the Identical u Au
,u.t. some date, OF 1916.
some remarks having been made BY Messfs. VINToS
iREEN Of No. &c.
Mr. GREELEY ofN y obtained the door, and said
Mr CHAIR,f.S feel very conhden, that If this House
could only come TO a fair understanding the
isl question before the proposition of my colleague
Mr. RUNsEY) would be sustained. For what does II
contemplate surely not. has been supposed. the
skng away from the Committee Of Ways and Means
he general subject Of Revenue and Tarf Amendment
which ! should oppose-but the prompt and eN
press preparation OF reply 10 90 much OF the Pres
tents Message relates to the history and character
lf Protective Duties under our Government What i
he nature Of that Messagei Il Is substantially h.
'ics NJ BY the retiring head Of defeated party not
merely Of his victorious opponents, but Of nearly al
lis predecessors. OF = majority of predecessors.
md ui msiorfy Of the most eminent men who have
participated 90 the conduct 0f our GOvernm. Mt All
he.e virtually accused. along with majority Of
MS House. OF secretly c0nsplrng 10 undermine our
Republican form Of Government and 10 build up IN
ieai system OF Arstocracy IKE that which generally
prevails ,or has prevailed IN Europe by means Of
1ounes and special fsvors % privileged classes i Il
bot proper Il not due ourselves that these grave
'nsrges should be formally considered And has the
Committee Of Ways snd Means In view Of its multi ,
Jlief and pressing duiles the time - make this Re
1ort II ts able Chairman viii ssy Il has. would pre-
er that COMMITTEE ~ any other But we know be hss
lot sad that 70 refer thu subject = that Committee Il
10 bury H. cannot concur In that course. The In. ,
iictment has gone forth on the wings Of the wind .