The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1848-08-11

Thirtasth Ceasrsss--vnrst Session.
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST Q, ls4s.
EVENING SESSION.

The SPEAKER resumed the chair at 81 O'Clock, and
light house bill in Committee of the Whole the state
OF the Unlon al the end OF hive minutes alter the same
shall be again resumed,
on the state of the Union, (Mr SAITH of Indiana in the
chsr,) and resumed the consideration of said bill
Mr.. HOUSTON of Delaware concluded his speech.
And them after u few words from Mr.. BOWLlN the
bill read through, together with the several amend
ments proposed by the Committee on Commerce which
On motion Of Mr.. GRINNELL, the bill was then laid
aside to be reported to the House
CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROPRIATIONS
On motion by Mr. vINTON, the committee now took
up the consideration OF the Senate amendments to the
civil and diplomatic bill: reported with amendments
Mr.. Y. said the bill came from the Senate few
Gays since with vast mass OF amendments ninety
nine in number The aggregate increase of appropra
however, by striking out above $4,000. The Commit
tee Of Ways and Means had abored night and day upon
the bill since had come into their hands, still they had
not been able to give TO all the amendments the attention
which the importance OF the claims under them would de
mand would not therefore be in his power to give that
detailed information which was expected of him. The
committee bad done the best they could The committee
had disagreed to majority OF the Senate amendments
Among those agreed to, two three important ones
He referred to the item of $4l 900 pay the Creek In
dams under the treaty Of ls2 this item was agreed to
with an amendment Mr. y explained the terms OF the
Creek treaty. the acts Of the commissioners under the
treaty and the legislation following The United States
undertook to pay the $3.50 oOo-S2ooOoo of which was
to be paid in money and the remainder in unliqudated
claims which the citizens of Georgia held against the
Creek Indians but limiting the amount Of said claims
$250, OOO-just have since undertook pay the
nnlquidated claims of citizens OF the United States against
claims more than 81 millions SiOs,OO of these Georgia
claims Were lqudated and paid and the balance of the
$3.50 had been paid to claimants not acknowledged
BY the Indians. Mr.. v. considered when we had paid
the debt of the Creeks to Georgia. had discharged the
obligation OF the treaty but majority of the Committee Of
Ways and Means thought that the United States should
doh fo nd tho
money promised them, amounted to much not. The
result would be, that should have pay the interest
sloso0e and interest and other considerations involved
which might swell the claim to between five and six
hundred thousand dollars The committee concur in the
Senate amendment, adding provso to the effect that
the $41 900 shall be paid to authorized representatives
OF the tribe and shall be paid in full OF all demands
thepart of these Indians against the United States.
about $4,000 to the State of Virginia. account of
certain old judgments for pensions halfway commuta
tons &C., which the Committee Of Ways and Means Is
for the Committee of the Whole decide upon the
cases, both when the Committee of Ways and Means
have agreed and when they have disagreed to the Sen
Mr.. NlCOLL said he must admit, with the honorable
chairman of the Committee OF Ways and Means, that
committee had given all the attention possible to the
whole mass OF matter before them and after mature
animation for himself he had overcome his proposes
Mr. VlNTON inteposed to say there was an additional
item Of $4,000 which he thought should be paid being
the balance of 800 900 which awarded by act of Con-
gress to the Mcintosh party of the tribe,
Mr. NICOLL. Ii confined strictly to the terms
Of the treaty, he might not be in favor of the claim But
20 behind the language of the treaty. and look into all
the talks and the intentions OF the parties for the meaning
and intent OF the contracts and this rule was founded in
of the treaty, partcularly celebrating the statement
made above by the chairman of the Committee Of Ways
and Means.
EvnJanat;ons ware also thrown in hv Mr. RJIRT Mr.
JAc3B THoMPS Ss Mr. KING Mr. wi HOLMES Of
South Carolina, and others.
Mr.. NICOLL maintained that this $I4l 900, which is
the surplus remaining after paying the Georgian claims
against the Indians amounting to something than
Sos oOo should be paid the Indians with the proviso
Mr. N then reviewed the Virginia claims for judg
ments for half pay communications, and pensions arising
of services rendered in the revolutionary war and
when he had concluded
Mr.. TOOMBS took up the argument for the Cherokee
claim, asserting that there not the slightest doubt
resting upon any fact upon which the claim predca,ed
and he proceeded to state all the facts collected both
from the Indians and the people of Georgia
Mr.. THOMPSON of Mississippi believed there was
no legal claim the part Of the Indians He considered
ment of the obligations and such too. the terms of
the treaty and of the law OF 1884 The $3.50 900 paid
whereas the bona de claims of the citizens of Georgia
He objected the Senate amendment also because the
Sal GOO to be paid by the President to four
five Indian chiefs, perhaps Of whom it was not known
Mr.. TOOMBS said that was provided against by the
amendment of the Committee of Ways and Means.
Mr.. THOMPSON concluded by giving notice that by
amendment he intended at the proper time propose
put this $141 900 into permanent fund, of which the
interest only shall be drawn by the Indians for school
purposes
Mr. COBB OF Georgia said the principal facts had been
clearly stated by his colleague mr. TooMBs] and, after
= careful consideration Of them, his mind had been
br ought the conclusion that the Creek Indians are not
en led to any part Of the claim After stating the case
fnlI The terms Of the treaty, and the construction of the
commits. oners the part OF the United States he stated
that th $50 900 had been fully paid, by the award Of
.ecm;s;cn which sat in Georgia in 1892 in the very
Ssihhorbnod of the Indians; and the Indians did not
obierf 10 he av ard till six years afterwards
M STANTON submitted explanation, embracing
such construction WI, put upon the treaty settle
he question aaanst ali claims the part of the Indians
M COBB then a,n.. led to the House against the
manner and the time and place OF this appropriation
and he questioned very mu> u wnetner II mad merit
enough to carry il through az eparae proposition.
Oh tfYo,i6n BY Mr. VINTON tn committee then rose,
for the passage Of resolution rminate debate upon
these amendmensthe order being 10 terminate debate
at the end of fifteen minutes after the ne shall be again
resumed. ot
The light house bill from the Senate rep red from the
COMMITTEES of the Whole, with amendment was then
considered and under the force of the prevouh question:
the amendments were concurred in and the bill, as
amended was read third time and passed
On motion by Mr.. VINTON, the House again resolved
into Committee of the Whole the state OF the Union
(Mr SMITH Of Indiana in the Chair0 and resumed the
consideration OF the Senate amendments to the civil and
diplomatic appropriation bill.
Mr. BOWDON Obtained the floor, and addressed the |
Committee upon the claim of David Taylor to the value
of acres Of 1nnd being an item Of 8l2 800 apprO