The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-07-04

on that very day, | moved, in Committee of the
apo mt Lieutenant General IL was however, voted
down by vote of SIS to 100 No one, that can see
changed his vote but George w Hopkins II the gen
teman wishes to asperse his character he will fnd that
1t too high to be nished bill sent from the
Senate to this house, designating general in chief
MIR. Hopkins voted differently from what he did at
first aud know Of no other who changed his vote.
Mr.. TooMBs-Every wing who voted for the bill
changed his vote after having yotei for the motion
from the Committee Military Affairs TO lay the pro-
position on the table
MIR. THoMrsoN-I never voted to lay it upon the
table moved the amendment the next day.
PARTNisM--HoLLow-HE EDNEss--THE wILMoT
pRoviso.
Mr.. CoBB, of Georgia said that he would discuss
party politics and he proceeded to ask the wings whe-
ther they were honestly opposed to party organization
Beyond professions, whore is their evidence! From
Jefferson TO the present day there have been parties
How does the cry of comport with the his
tory Of the past Look at the spirit of uiption
which has characterized the proceedings of the wings
in the State and federal governments DO you forget
what occurred at the organization of this Housed
Where are the officers who were then here! [Mr.
Pendleton-" We've left the Postmaster Yes, and
you complain of the few wings who refused him
out Laughter Party organzation You are OPP
opposed you are Mortified at the very word of
yet your of prescription has been marked by
blood Read the three months history of the Harrison
administration. f. Thirty days.nl am speaking Of
his cabinet. Were men turned out for opinions sake
Were partisans put in to fill their places! Were gen.
tlemcn carried to the block and sacrificed because
they We're democrats Do you recolect the remark Of
Mr. Granger, the Postmaster General that the guillo
tine had scarcely gone into operation More men
were turned out in thirty days than during the whole
administration of his predecessor. As to platforms If
you have principlesrwhy did you not say SO? Why
did you say that you would entrust them to the ndi
vidual whom you have selected for your and
in whom you profess to have confidence Did you
make platform In lS44 when you met in Baltimore,
to make nomination of Mr. Clay the wings and those
who so Mortified with platforms, brought out and
put forth platform-a wing platform MIR. Cobbs col
league, (Mr. Toombs) was a member Of that conven-
Why were his lips then sealed Now, his whole sys-
tenn quakes ut the idea Of the democratic platform and
the wing party cannot condescend to erect one! If
MIR Clay has not been repudiated for his wing prnci
Piles, why has he been cast off? If MIR. Clay had been
the nominee Of the Philadelphia convention does any
believe that would not hear Of platform? 1t /,
only because the wing party have been driven by force
Of circumstances to desert Mr. Clay, and take up Gen.
Taylor that we hear the cry Of no partyism. They
were not able to make platform Do you believe that
the Philadelphia convention were opposed to the VIII
mot proviso!
cATEcHIsM-rHE CONVENTIONS.
MT. HILLIARp, (who was q member Of the conven-
ton)- will give the action of the body itself They
rejected the proposition by large vote.
MIR. CoBB-This is no time to equvocate when dis
cussing questions involving dearest interests Do
you believe that a majority Of that convention were
opposed to the Wilmot proviso IA pause) Silence
gives an answer-[s You've got him there.n]
Mr. HILLIARp- he gentleman has as much informa-
ton as ! have.-Laughter) / ask; can there be
more decisive expression of opinion than that?
Mr.. CoDn-Unfortunately, your body said that they
would not express their opinions any questions
and abandon platform, by voting down the Wilmot
provifo, expressed an honest sentiment?
MT HILLIARD-The Northern gentlemen assured
That 1t would be put down, if offered On motion of
Northern man, delegate from Pennsyivania it was
laid upon the table by an overwhelming vote What
stronger proof Of the sentiment Of the body do you re-
quire
Mr. CoBB-The gentleman is extremely luminous
Qaughter) don't want equivocation. ask again,
do you believe that the majority Of the Philadelphia
convention were opposed to the principle of the Will
mot proviso?
Mr. HrLLrARp-I am not prepared to answer for the
principle. ha ha y desire to say that when
the convention in the open light Of day with thou
viso they gave the strongest assurances that they
will stand by the So1th.
Mr. CoRB-The assurance is 80 strong that you
will not say you believe it! Ola ha! haD You are
right not to believe your associates Renewed laugh
ter) commend you to your constituents, because
you will not place your conscience on the assurances
of Northern friends.
MIR HILLlARp-I do not like to risk assertions
] prefer to depend upon facts. Will the gentleman
tell me why resolution repudiatng the Wilmot pro-
viso Offered by Mr.. Forman, of Georgia) was with.
drawn in the Baltimore convention?
MIR. CoBB-The gentleman asks q question to avoid
answering one. ] said
Mir HlLL,ARD--Does the gentleman believe that the
convention was in favor of it?
Mr. CoBB-It was withdrawn for the reasons given.
MIR. HILLIARD-What are they?
MIR CoBB-That the resolution Of the convention
was sufficient The gentleman fails to answer the
question have propounded.
MIR. HILLIARD-Does the gentleman believe that this
is the only reason?
MIR. CoBn-The only reason. / do not pretend to
deny it, | wish to know of the gentleman from Mas
sachusetts (NIr. Ashmun) whether the laying of the
part of the Philadelphia Convention, against the prn-
ciples of it?
MIR. CoBB-It is not for you to answer. Ola ha!
Mr.. AsHMuN-I will answer that, or any other ques
ton.
MIR. Conf would not have propounded the ques-
tion if had not thought that It would be received in
a kind spirit e. Let him nswer t.'D
MIR. AsHMUN-1 was not in the body at the moment
the proposition was offered nor did hear one word
said upon the subject. All understood was, that 1t
any one gentleman beside myself Nor can / say in
as my individual opinion that believe that MAORI
ty Of the convention composed Of q majority from
the free Sates) in favor Of the principle Of the
Wmot proviso. do not say this is an act Of the
conventions do not consider it part of their pro-
ceedings believe they were in favor of the Wilmot
provso as Cass was because they came from sections
Mr. CoBB-if Cass was in favor of it. and is not now
the is that like every honest man. when he is
convinced that he is wrong he has changed his opn-
laugh they can't appreciate honest opinions. lila!
ha la on the part Of the democracy.]
Mr.. AsHMUN-Win you allow me to ask you single
question
MIR Copp-Yes sir
MIR. AsHMUN-Do you believe that majority Of tho
proviso! IA voice NOT TASK, further, il the Ore
gon bill should pass the Senate with the Wilmot prov
SO in it, do you believe that Cass would veto it,
Mr. CoBB-Why does the gentleman put the quos-
ton on the Oregon bill last year voted for 1t with
that proviso in it. We thought it ought not to be
there but when it ceased to be practical question:
not dispoeed to deny to the people of Oregon
ritorial government
Mr. AsHMuN-I understand the gentleman to say,
that although the insertion of the proviso
constitutional exercise Of power yet he voted for the
bill containingit?
Mr. CONF repeat what stated at the time, and
what have stated before the people, voted against
the proposition to insert it, and also voted when mo-
ton to take it out Of the bill Looking at 1t
nugotary, I voted for the bill, finally, to give the
people government. do not believe that the Balti
more convention were favorable to the wilmot pro-
viso.
Mr.. GAYLE, of Alabama would ask whether at
tempt was not made in the Baltimore convention to
introduce q resolution opposing the Wilmot proviso
Mr.. CoBB-The gentleman has just walked up.
ha ha j hope that the Oregon bill win be passed
before adjourn In reference to other territories
dfere mt questions will arise
MIR. Cobb made further remarks about plat
FORMS and when he concluded,
Mr.. FLovRNEY of Virginia, obtained the floor. He
contended that the course Of the wings will stand the
test before the country and favorable than
that Of the democrats on the
SUBJECT slavery.
He protested against being brought into the poll