The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-08-15
THE FLARE-UP I'm THE SENATE.
THE PROSPECT OF A DUEL.
&c. &c. &c.
THIRTIETU CONGRESS-.
FIRST SESSION.

THIKTIETu CONGRESS-.
FIRST SESSION.
wAsnseros, August 18th, 1s4s
senate
EVENING SESSION.
RESIDUE OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF the LAST Lora
SATURDAY OF THE LONG SESSION rHE rHrRrrErH
The report Of the morning session to dav down En-
four O'Clock, p NJ, was transmitted by the afternoon
session till near seven O'clock PM, when the doors
opened for the regular legislative business Of the
day.
Crutchetts chandelier in full blaze galleries filed
with spectators, including many brilliant illustrations
Of the fair eek The obbes below occupied with
spectators, including also gay company Of summer
bonnets.
Mr. NILES in the chair.
Mr.. MASouM, without reading, passed up resolu-
ton to the chair.
The CHAIR decided it out of order, as the Oregon
bill was the subject before the Senate.
Mr.. WEsrcoTr appealed from the decision of the
chair and spoke upon the subject with the view to
the umption of time
A suspicion is awake that the South intend to de-
eat the Oregon bill by talking away the shred Of time
emaning Of the session.
Mr. DIcKISsoN thought the resolution ought to be
read, for information, though not in order to act
upon 1t.
Mr. Krse-I hope the Chair will not withdraw its deci-
Question taken on the appeal lost, % to 20, after
statement of the case by the Chair.
The Senate were about proceeding with the Oregon
bill when
MIR, ArHERroS asked to present a report from the
committee Of conference, the dsagreeing be-
tween the two houses on the army bill.
Mr.. JOHNSON, of Ga, having the floor, the Oregon
bill, gave way for the admission Of the report.
MIR. ATHERroN made his report and said the House
were waiting for the Senate's action upon it.
A debate arose upon the propriety of considering
this report now. 1t debated by Messrs Atherton,
The chair decided ths: it was not now in order,
report from the committee.
appeal mad To- taksnGl9 to 20,
is not sustained. (Ha, ha, ha
Mr.. ATHERroN made his report on the Army bill
The committee reduce the marine corps beyond the
number oft establishment by one half.
Mr.. YULEE proposed to increase the number of the
corps yond the report Of the committee of confer
ence and was proceeding to speak in detail upon It,
MIR. BENroN-When the Senator is done speaking,
have word to say.
MIR. BENroN-No, sir but | have a word to say
when the Senator Is done.
Mr.. YvLEE went pleading the necessity Of large
marine corps and had letter read the subject He
passed up another letter.
MIR. BrNroN-I object to any more reading of let
MIR YuLEE-I consider this letter as more material
than the other to fair understanding Of the subject
Mr. BgNror1 object to the reading, sir.
The question was about being put.
Mr.. BENToN-l desire to say a word, sir. ask the
forgiveness Of God and hope he will forgive me,
Mr.. BApoER-l rise to question Of order
Mr.. BEsToN-What ist?
Mr.. BADGER-It is this. Debate Is out Of order
the question Of reading papers. a.
The chat. SO decided
Mr.. BENTON give 1t up, sir
The reading Of the paper was allowed-23 to 10.
The Secretary proceeded to read long statement
respecting the marines
A VoIcr-Better tell that to the marnes.l
Mr. JOHNSON, of Md.-How much more there Of
thai paper
Mr. BENroS-You can have the whole history Of
the marine corps by going to the library. (fia ha!
Mr.. FoorE-I hope the Senator will go on.
Mr.. JoHHsoS-I move to suspend the reading Car
lied.
Mr.. Brsror-Now, sir Hereby do repeat, that, il
the Lord will forgive for this time, again
will permit the marines to be incorporated into the
army bill will keep the marines with the navy and
come in from the senator from Florids' without law
iorit. The committee propose to reduce the marines
to something like the peace establishment The Sc
nator proposes to set aside the confsrees and to in
the marines to the standard This very
modest request at this stage OF the session Here We
for extra pay an the Senator from Florida proposes
to defeat the whole me asure by delay.
Mr.. YCLEE had no desire to endanger the bill, and
argued that there should be increase Of the marines
beyond the report of the committee and spoke Of some
understanding with the chairman on finance.
Mr.. ArHERroN-I understood such thing. The
Senator proposes to increase the marines by 500 men,
but then he proposes to retain all the officers Of the
Mr. BENror-Yes that's II, sir that's the scheme.
Mr.. YULEE finished his argument His motion was
Cured in.
Mr. Jonrsor, of Georgia, was about to resume his
Mr. WEBSTER rose and said he desired, sometime to-
night, to Say few words this bill
Mr. Jonssos-I will eIfully give way to the ho-
norable Senator from Massachusetts.
MIR wEBsTER's SPEECH. fh
Mr.. WEBSTER said;--Mr. President-I am very little
inclined to continue this discus sion and hope am
utterly disinclnedto bring into it any excitement
or war wish to say very few words-frst, upon the
question as it is presented to us parliamentary
question:; and, secondly, upon the general questions
involved In this debate Asa question Of parliament
tary or congressional proceeding. understand the
case to be thus-The House of Represe natives sent
bill for the establishment of territorial govern
ment in Oregon. No motion has been made in the Sc
pnrportins to respect oregon simply and alone has
not been the subject Of any objection in this branch
The Presiding OrFIcER-Will the Senator suspend
his remarks for Q mement? H.f
Mr.. wEBsrkR--Yes, for ever, If you choose. IT'S Of
no moment to the country what say. QLaughter)
"A message was then received from the House, re-
specting certain bills stool t1oGlrgf
an amendment to that bill. Now, the honorable Sens-
tor from Missouri right and precisely right when
ne ssid the amendment had no References to Oregon
of the BILL which will succeed and docs succeed It, you
will see 1t DEGREES that the ordinance of 1857 shall b
in force So that you refer to the BILL you viii SEQ
that the amendment which the House Of Represents
tives has rescinded has nothing to do with Oregon
The fact is, the amendment is resolution, By which
the Senate wish to pass a decree not regarding Ore
gon, but regarding the territories Of New Mexico and
poseS for.is% to aSS Immediate oSsot Of the s It
does not affect in any way the We propose
to get over Oregon In . parliamentary view, there
has been attached to the bill by strong msjortyten
or twelve, believe do not object to that they had
perfect right to do The House of Repressn
has stricken 1t out Well II the majority of the Senate
are OF opinion that conference will tend settle
ment Of the difficulty. by inserting something In leu,
or leaving It as the bill s 1t is very fair and
parliamentary, snd have nothing to say against It,
But my position is that Of who opposed the amend
ment and, therefore, very naturally desire to dispose
Of 1t In the readiest way. Wishing. OF course, the
anne ndment should not succeed have nothing 70 DO
but to vote to recede So much for the parliamentary
question There two three questions arising In
this connection, which | wish TO state distinctly
not to argue, but to state. As the honora-
bic member from Georgia, (Mr. Berrien) whom
| delight to acknowlsdse as . friend. has said,
this is q question belonging TO the South aud the
Nerth and which may very well attract the attention
of civilized mankind He has not stated It strong
II is question upon which the world Is net asleep
but we'll awake and suppose II he believes that, We,
10 at should be sent tn tho cvilix al world