The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-01-30
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Mr.. RHKrr, Of South Carolina, started out with the
declaration that Congress only could declare
body else can declare IT, 1t was not competent for the
President to declare war and he trusted that IL
would be. The affairs at Palo Alto and Rssacs were
nothing but collision Of arms war did not exist until
after Congress passed the aot declaring to exist Sup
pose vessels belonging to private Of Mexico had
been captured betors that time the question would
Congress Is the wsrdeclsring power and the power Is
unlimited ~ to how It shall exist The seatemsn f
proposition that the President commeaerd uacoosti
tutons, war, oil not assert cons,,ussos truth
not declare war "a Soiss~ declared that I; should
Mr. R1srr- Congress declared tss, war existed and
had Congress the right to do f.,
Mr.. AsxMvN The President told u that war was pro-
ducsd by he act Of Mexico
MIR RAErT That's another thing. The question is
not
MIR Acknowledgment said it did exist.
MIR. RHErr-Ths gentlemsn's case does not apply
MIR AsHMuN say that the President did not declare
war, but he produced an actual war
declare But this is characteristic the gentle
mans party. With them, the constitution seems be
war to stop They want to have it for Prssdsnt making
The charge that the President began the war; part
of their operations to affect the public mind.
MIR VINroN-l would ask the gentleman
The CHAIRMAN Does the gentleman from South Car
olina yield the floor?
Mr.. RHErT-I do
Mr. VINroN-I would ask the gentleman, cannot war
exist until it declared by the proper authority
Mr. VIxroN-ls the President to engage in hostiities
without the consent Of Congress?
Nir RHrTr -CertsinIy. 10 he not the eommander-in-
repel invasion The gentleman from
that the President made the war notwithstanding he
gives Congress the power to ieclare There diff
ference between declaring and making 1t will
be by looking to tho debates in the convention
the clause to make war; stricken out and
war; put in for the maintained, that Con-
gress would control the What do hear from the
king power and therefore the Prssdsnt had no right
to order our troops from Corpus Christi Congress is
the war making power thsrsfo,s Is right for them to
wsrmakng power therefore they can call In question
that war did not exist until after the act Of Congress
Mr. RHETT-Certainly
said: "war exists by the aot Of Mexico" itself was
tn then true You said that war did not exist until
Congress dtolarsdit
Laughter do not care rush whether the President,
the gentleman all Of his party asssrts that Congress
that war exists the popular pSss. pd you be-
lieve that war existed?
Mr.. AsANuS-Not constitutionally until Congress
passed the aot
Mr.. RHrrr-l did not come here to defend the Pres
dent but the against usurpation and nno
the sphere in which hostities exist They BY
duty are not without remedy 1t is duty to see
that the Constitution Is enforced the President has
psschsd and hung for it. III b.isv: that n. President
has acted unconstituonay in ordering the troops to
the Rio ar..ds myself would bring forward articles of
Massachusetts, said that by his proposition declaring
that the President UNNECESSARILY and
commenced the war; no had put plaster the Presi
dent there let it stick Does he wish damn the
President by sticking plaster on him. Let him move
an and let his friends Who voted for that
Why do you not exercise 1t! We have the power to
declare but not to make peace Suppose Congress
should make declaration that emily certain territory
should be received and certain conditons and sup
pose the executive should make Q treaty at variance
We have no control over the terms Of peace or treaties
that Is for the President himself The declaring
power Is in Congress- the war liking in tho President
The peacemsking power 10 in the President and the
senate and the President The gentleman from In.
diana that the President violated the constitution
because he ordered the troops to move from Corpus
Christi Even though no war existed, this Congress
the troops The gentleman said too that treaty in
the Senate rejected because recognised the Rio
Grande as the boundary. But did not the Mexcaus
oognise the boundary made by the armstioe with
Vol! [Mr. Rhett proceeded to show that Mr.. slidsl
at tho time the troops ordered to ad
Mr.. THOMPSON asked Mr. Rhett where he obtained the
information.
MIR. RHErr replied that he had made inquiry and
that paper had been shown to him.
Mr. TRoMPsoN-Then the gentleman hes seen some.
thing which We know nothing about.
Mr. RHErr-l have It here In letter, three pages
lorg
Mr.. THoMrsoS-win the gentleman permit m. to ask
him when he procured the Information!
Mr.. RHErr-The day before yesterday.
MIR. BAYLY-Ae the gentleman from Indiana seems to
think that the Information ns~ would remark that
1t WAS. qustsd by MIR. Owen. Of Indiana and myself
during the list session.
Mr.. THOMPSON, docking into q document) That l.
different what the President says In his message
black and hesrtless others honorable and you
strive to involve him the crims producing th.
but say from what know, that the OF coun.
ell r-jsctng MIR Sidell justified the opinion whch
ov~rthrown, Parsdes came In And will the gentle
say, that the President, sfer nsgostiou He'd NJ
TO bJuudsry, had no right 10 move lhs troops? Thu
however 10 not worth arguing Gentleman say that
Congress Is the war making power aud that the GUS
has the right to all the iniormation In relation
In turning over the constitution, the power
OF the Hose seem the Qlalocatio OF It's
and to expel q NIB Aud Mr. Rhett procee dSd to
instructions to Mr. Sde should treaty concluded by
dr Trst. go into that body The Senate cannot take
the initiative That Is for the President In
the gentlemen from South Carolina said was the Wing
p.rty who had always been trying upset the
ton. All innovation comes from them They have
etrven to alter and amend the BY
enactments so that they may build up central des-
potism. That is their policy
MIR GoooIN, of Virginia, obtained the floor, aud the
committee rose,
And the House adjourned at four o'clock
BALTIMORE, Jan. 20, 1s4s.
Duel Ended in Smoke-Lawyers' Quarrels as
Easily Settled as Lovsrs'-A DisgracefM AZ