The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-07-23

Ne steam branch Of commerce. The advantages until
recently. exclusively enjoyed by Great Britain
took evr--Ma. ALLEs's orsLAvSHr rros WHOLE
OCEANIC svsrEA
MT ALIEN cited the origin Of these contracts for
ocean steam mail transportation. When it passed he
opposed IT, aud the grounds Of his opposition were
etin the Tt hat IL 10 unoonstitui ional ID,
Of sy.em, has ths power Of psr
petustipg its own existence; one Of those systems
which from small beginnings. may become Of the
not oppressive burdens upon the people The grounds
upon vh,ch this system adopted were, tn I the
Prohts uld least pay the cost and that the ships
employed could be instantly charged at a moment s
wsrnipg into ,hps Of The constitationality of
the thing not argued at all But he de-
msnded the in the constitution upon which this
systen can be jutfihed He contended that it could
be found neither in tho power establish post offices
and post-rosds. nor in the power TO regulate com
wesce IL we have right to transport letters by
seA Why " II that we have not the same ri mt Q
the tran pnrtation OF pork and bacon ana noutI
This sytIm oiigioat.d in desire 10 follow the
example OF England. England taken as our
pattern. We must do as she has done. But 1t was
mistake Our system Is inversion OF the British
system Britain Is insuated her colonies are scattered
all the world ehe subsisis from her
her str. Myth upon the and 1t Is her policy to
strengthen her commerce and her navy in every way
Thee postal lines Of hers to the United States are not
for the mer. permits collected upon papers and let
tiers but keep up the readest of ccmmun MICA
ton sud defence with her colonies Bot here have
got into the idea that the treasury Is make specu-
lation oct Of this stock jobbing. business Ii was
thought that should get into business as profta
He WAS oIpoed TO this stock jobbng by the govern
ment-to all this grabbing in contracts where all
chances are against us whether they fail succeed
After king for a full hour, Mr. Allen said he made
an issue frCm this day forward between this peri.
mental outside steam mail system, and the u-
terpsl policy Of the country The expenses of the
war the debts incurred the territories uired and
The Doc ssity for establishing aud sustaining post off,
ces over all their vast extent wherever there may be
arguments against this exterior mail trans
portsuop system. Between the internal the exte
nor pohcy he mace the ISSUE and should prosecute it
until the people shall have decided wheth.r the one
tho otter Is TO be abandoned
Mr. DOUGLASS spoke earnestly in support of the
ocean lines and the advance pay proposed. The great
policy Of thoe lines resist the efforts of
at monopoly Of steam upon the ocean She has
become Of our 200 whale ships in the Pacific and our
commercial marine along she Pacific and the Atlantic,
with this net work Of English steamers around us
Why, sir. must begin 10 build up steam navy and
this plan. while il is calculated to break up Eng
tsh monopoly Of letter transportation presents also
the cheapest medium Of increasing effective steam
navy upon The ocean AT all events, now that these
made. he by all means in favor of
giving the exptrim' nts under progress fair trial
br CALHOUN was opposed to the system; but in
favor Of sta ndiDg to the terms of our contracts
Mir ALLEN said the clause for S25 600 advance pay
per month, was not part of the contract
Mr. CALHOUN Oh yes; but understand it to be
TO meet an Improvement in the size and construction
Of the ships.
MT BEsTor concurred in the opinions of Mr. Cal
houn.
Mr. JonN DAVIS opposed the advance pay of $4,000
Mr.. UnpERwoop opposed the system at large He
referred to the packet ships ming from New Orleans
and carrying letters as an evidence that this business
could be left to private enterprise.
Mr. Hale sad that lille the navy had sweed up to
an annual cot of eleven millions it did good; but
possible, barely possible but still possible that
some good might be derived from these ocean steau,
mail experiments. he wat disposed to support them
MIR. NrLEs-I think my friend from New Hampshire
has got out OF his reckoning lttethis thing neither
advances free soil, free labor free trade
monopoly sir; and contend sir, that the assign.
ment Of there contracts, without authority law,
renders th, IN null, and void
Mr. Yuls. also Of the opinion that the assign
ment OF tie contract Of A. G Soo made it nuility.
We owe these sssignees nothing. We can plead the
contract utterly null and void. He also opposed
to the paying Of 25 QUO per month"; to be paid the
to the upon each ship before going into ac
tive service Of $4,000 equal to years pay in
Mr. HALr-D Does the Senator say the Sloo contract
is nuA and void
Mr. YuLEE-Yee, sir.
Mr. HAIE-H Has not the Secretary of the NAVY or
Treasurer made contract with the assgnees?
MIR. YuLgE->o, believe there is not. sir; there is
authority for IL; indeed may say that know that
he has ade contract with the assignees
Mr.. CLAYTON argued that in refusing the advance
pay you abandoned the steamers entirely and pleaded
that England would absorb our commerce unless We
put upon the sea to compete with the
ships which she has so rapidly multiplied upon the
Atlantic. e
Mr. BurLER-Is there no other security than the
ben npon the sbips'
Mr.. ArHkEToN-1hatsa all.
Of these ships in fort ign port. What security wha
redress sesipst such a transfer of there ships,
hr. ALTERATION explained that there ample au
thority conferred upon the Secretary of the Navy to
secure the slips.
Mr.. BsApBvEr was opposed to the advance pay
When the plea first put in, ittwas made account
Of the tiehtnes of the money market But that plea
does not now exist The money market is easy, and
stocks are at PR MUM.
After some CONVERSATION between Mr. Calhoun and |
Mr. Clsyto the former said that from the disclosures
IF the discussion he should oppose the advance pay
khich the Senator from Connecticut has moved to |
Mr.. DIX opposed to allowing the advance pay
Jnder tie contract 1t uDderstood that the ships
we're TO be built from private capital He would stand
o this principle, and vote against the advance pay
Mr.. WKsIcoTT-Does not the line Of Bremen ships !
'elong 70 foreigners? ff r / |
Mr.. PsARcE-No, sir.
Mr. Drs-I believe it does, or at least Bremen lent
principal portion Of the money, upon what security
Mar PxARoE- They merchants who lent the
money
ed perhaps by bypoth. cation Of the stock. ha
Er. " EsJcoIT wss in favor of the advance pay
though he believed these ocean steamers humbug
them the hands Of foreign capitalists, like
the Brs me u line.
Mr. D,oKiNsoN. on grounds of justice, argued in
favor ef the advance pay
The amen dment TO strike out the advance pay was
agreed to. rs to "a
ton which lis over till to- morrow.
Mr. CrAvTos gave notice that be should call up the
terroris bill tomorrow and press 1t to passage
Executive session.
WAsHIrGToS, July 81, 1S4S.
NAVAL ADVANCE PAY TO OCEAN STEAM LINES RE-
TANNED.
with the dis position OF some miscellaneous business
incident the morning hour the naval appropriation
bill taken up, the question being upon reconsider
ing the vote of yesterday, by which the clause allowing
pay TO certain ocean contractors was stricken
out.
MIR PHEIPs having voted for striking out this clause
yesterday stated the reasons which should govern him
in changing bic vote.
Nr. Nus said that the question was settled-tbat
these Extraordinary appropriations would be retained
lie Guild ray that II the Bremen line should come
in for advance he should not oppose It, but be
spprebt psye that this system Of advance upon
tracts ould lead TO great abuses.
Mr. Foo1r in favor Of exercising some degree Of
liberaty TO thee contaciors From all the iDforma-
ton be had obtaiI ed, they were men Of honor and
could be relied upon TO the faithful performance of
their engagements.
MIR BENTON argued that since the acquisition Of
twelve nv sdred miles Of seaboaid along the Pacifc
nj am m upicatiOn At first he