The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-09-22
BALTIMORE, Sept 81, 1913.
The T. o. o. F. Grand Lodge-7He Nro York |

BALTIMORE, Sept. 81, 1913.
The o. o. F. Grand Lodge-7h The Neo York
D,D1cuhy-Rtpoyfs Of the Committee on Creden-
fialS--A Select Committee A1porated, &c.
The New York difficulty in s,he Grand Lodge
of | O. of o. F., yet remains unsettled, the
matter row being IN the hands of n select COM
'mlttee. AS the action on the question so far, may
be of interest 10 the brethren of the order in New
York will furnish you with such authentic infor-
nation has come to my knowledge. The first &C
ton OF the Lodge TO q committee creden-
tiss, consisting of Messrs. Parmenter, of Massachu
setts; Ramsdell IF Michigan; and Sessford, Of the
District of Columbia. This committee, after due
sideratoD, reported the of all those delegates
whose credentials perfectsnd then 60 state
that they have also in their hands credentials certify
ing the election of P. G. James w Hale, and r. G.
John g. Davies whose certificates signed by James
r. Taylor, as Grand Masters and Benjamin J. Psntz,
Grand Secretary Of the Grand Lodge Of New York;
and also Of p q. John w Winelle wh' Sc certificate
is signed by d. Bernard. as Grand Master, and w
H. II Pral, AS Grand Secretary. The seal of the
Graod Lodge Of New York. far the committee
can o;stipg th is upon all the certificates.
The CT mmittee have also received certificates of
election, Of the following gentlemen from the Grand
Encampment Of New York P. c. P Joseph ID. Stewart,
p c. r. VIM w. Dibblee, whose certificates signed
by Thsddeus Davids. as Grand Patriarch, and John j.
Davies, as Grand Scribe aud of p G. p Hiram Powell,
and 'P C.. P. David ID. Egan, whose certificates are
signed by Issschari c. Reid Grand Patriarch, and
John l.. Van Dis kerck Grand Scribe. The impress
siops Of the seals of the Grand Encsmpment the
mitce add upon all the certificates as far they
can distinguish
The mmitee in determining who of these claim.
ante entitled Seats state that they governed
by the rule that bound take notice of
such Grand Bodies the local jurisdictions as have
been duly rcog by the Grand Lodge of the United
States and its officers and such evidence of that
ccgHton is found upon its records and its archives
Rs p,ima fdcie conclusion of the authenticity and
Genuipenets of the oomnu nicatons which appear to
epana,e from them They therefore, with this guide
report the owing as having anthem
tic certificates and as entitled to seats in the Grand
Lodge -
Grand Lodge Of New York-P. G. James w. Hale,
Grand Eneompmt~ of New York;. C. P. Joseph
D: Stewart, p. c. P William w: Dibblee.
This report il signed by VIM E. Parme ter and John
Sessford, Jr two Of the three members Of the COM
mittee
IN. third member of the committee however Norton
r. Ramsdell, OF Michigan, has also made 8 mi nority
report il which be ssys that in his opinion the evil
dence before the committee was and Is not sufficient
to authorize The committee to decide upon the
ctipg claims of brothers from the State of New
whose certificates were before them. And although
the committee might perhaps take official notice of
the existence Of the Grand Lodge and Grand Encamp-
mt lis that State they could not take such notice of
their officers The evidence Of the genuine of the
several certificates before committee depend in
the estimation OF the Undersigned solely on the i'm
preston Of the seal Of the lodge encampmen from
which they purport to come and beyond which your
committee C, uld not look, without further authority
from this Il. w. body The impression of the same
seal is es ch IF The Epcampment certificates aud
the in the Of the q Lodge certificates
The undersigned asks leave, Therefore to refer said
certificates back 10 this lodge without further action
of the committee thereon. and recommends that the
matter be refe rred to select committee Of fve
bsIs.
After considerable discussion, the recommendations
OF MIR. Esmsdell, in his minority report adopted
by the body and the whole matter referred to select
committee, consisting OF Mesrs Parme inter- of Massa
chus,tts; Baker, of Pennsylvania; Marshall of Ken.
lucky; Ramsdell, Of Michigan; and Smith. Of Maine
in whose hands il now y and from whom report is
expected this morning. IL is most troub lesome ques
ton TO dispose Of, nearly difficult that of the
baInburpers in the democratic convention. New
York is beginning TO be a very troublesome State.
Yours, &C.. OBSERVER