The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-05-25

laid down the assertion that the delegation with which
he was associated represented the regularly organized
democracy of the State Of New York They have
been charged with degrading themselves by submitting
TO test in the execution Of plctgs to support ths
homi nees OF the Convention before their particular
cainiwere acted upon He would to God that all
democrats might ever be degraded by submitting to
such tet 1t was democratic. IL was constitutionAl
and all democratic and constitutional usuagss In
ITS favor The speaker then wont into extern led hs
tory of the party dc ues in the State OF Now York
the cause OF its existence and the disastrous effects
the party it had produced. He contended that the
Hunker delegation represented great majority Of the
democracy OF the state and that the
those they represented had gone from the party
without just cause of complaint. Ho said that the
great and existing cause Of dsunon had been laying
the table ut the Syracuse convention by decided
majority, of a resolution proposed and supported by
those who afterwards formed the convention at Hsrk
mer and Utica, declaring in strong and emphatic
terms against the extension OF slavery In new States
and territories.
At the expiration of the hour allotted to the speakers
when Mr.. Dickinson had concluded his short argu
ment,
Mr. JAMES c. SMITH in behalf OF the Barnburners.
then proceeded to address tho Convention. Ho said
the first of division in tho party grew out Of tho
efforts of the Hunkers to keep Offices at tho expense and
credit of the State He said that his party called
Barnburners because they burnt barns to drive out
rats from the public granay hence the name Of Hun
kers given to the others because they hankered
after office. He said the gentleman who had preceded
him. had said that there WAS no degradation in the
test exacted II gentlemen did not consider 1t degree
dation doubted II they had sufficient moral
discover what depreciation was. (Hisses and oheers)
He said that he had been admitted to tho democratic
church long since, aud would not submit to n de-
grading and invidous test in Convention that nomi
mated Slas Wright The test applied between two par
ties, and Mr. Wright nominated by triumphs MT
majority Attn death Of the lamentcd Wright the
servatve faction again raised its head and ut the SYRIA
cusc Conve nton old Canal Commissioners, and bro
ken-down oic aholders the controng influence to
PROSTATE Mr.. Flagg, as candidate for Canal Commits
sioner, consistent Democrat, and warm personal
friend of Gov. Wright. They obtained by fraud
working majority. The Convention disregardsd the
rights of the minority and by tho aid Of Democratic
Convention usage accomplished its design. 1t was not
till then there frat heard the design Of separate
orga nzation. The Herkimer meeting did not profess
to be regular meeting of the democracy Of the State
but only Of those persons indignant ut tho conduct Of
the Syracuse Convention The party then divided,
as consultative movement and In conformity with
party usage call for Convention was made for
the nomination of State officers and to consider other
matters. The speaker then went into the mnuta
of the dispute, and said that the Hcrkmer and the
Syracuse men both went into the Legislative
Gus and Convention was called at Utica for the
purpose Of compromise, and to enable parties to unite
and organize old ground. His party stgmatzed
to prejudice it with the South certain grounds
charged against it. The Herkimer platform was aban
donod after the Legislative calling convention
at Utica The Syracuse went into two legislative
caucuscs, and out-voted at each. They had no
party were no aboitionsts They regarded political
abotonists foes No set Of men could stand up
rmer for State rights and state than the
Democrats of New York But they were in favour Of
extending to all States and territories the pro-
visions of the ordinance framed by Thomas Jefferson,
and extended the north west territory II We
not accepted, said he shall not go out conquered,
but banners flying with the principles of Jefferson in
scribed upon them.
When the SPEAKER had concluded,
The Hon. HENRy A. FOSTER obtained the floor and
proceeded to address the convention ut length in de-
fence of the Hunkers He spoke eloquenty In behalf
of his party and with warmth and severity In reply to
Mr. Smith and reviewed his statements respecting the
dcavored to show fallacous and groundless.
When he had concluded an able speech,
PREsroN KING rose in behalf OF the Barn.
md addressed the convention in strain Ct fervid
eloqucnce He il still speaking as this despatch closes,
and will probably consume the time till the adjourn
m ent Of the afternoon session.
The question to the right Of seats will not prOba
bly, be decided this after noon.
EVENING SESSION.
The convention convened at P. NJ
Mr.. DRAKE, of Pennsylvania submitted resolution
to the Convention proposing that,
had prescribed rules for the election Of delegates to the
convention and those rules not abroAed by
Resolved That the Syracuse Delegation entitled to their
Mr. TmoMrsor, Of Now Jersey, submitted resolution
asserting that the Convention found 1t dcut to de-
eide on the intricate question presented to it, and
referring the matter back to the democracy of New
York without prejudice to either party.
Mr. McALErER of Georgia opposed the referring .t,
Convention, and who ought not to be afraid to meet
the matter boldly and at once: He oontendsd that
principles matter what the decision Of tho Couvsn
ton might be- He considered that Mr. Ysncsy
unwise in asking such issue The Syracuse de-
legation elected in relation to the uniform demo-
cratic usage of the State for twenty years quar-
rel then between the men for ONCE protesting
the turning out Of the on account
of the Wimot proviso
MIR. THOMPSON hoped the matter would be referred
back to New York
Mr. STRANGE, of North Carolina defended the course
pursued by the committee application Of the opposi
ton delegation. They mutually charged each other
wrong he would apply the test and decide the ques-
tiou One had refused to the first question OF
the Democratic catechism and the other had answered
promptly. He commended that the committees could
do nothing but accept those that prove to be demo-
Gratis. The Barnburners had virtually excluded
themselves by adopting the Wilmot proviso the
South could not vote them admission. He hoped,
however that the question would be decid ed Gre
dentals, il the delegates know no other grounds
Tho members of the Barnburner delegation protested
against deciding their admission rejection on the
grounds of the Wimot provso. They wanted the
question decided the validity Of their credentials
Cries Of question" Z" order F" &c followed +,
Sundry attempts made to obtain the floor, and in
every direction disorder prevailed for some time
Mr.. HANNEGAS, of Indiana obtained the floor, and
moved that the previous question DO withdrawn for
explanation .
Mr. BARrLrv Of Ohio, denied that the Democratic
venton of Ohio had taken grounds in favor OF the
Wilmot proviso, asserted by MIR. King.
Mr. TunsEy, of Tenn One minority. The Convon-
ton against the action Of the committee In
appointing test to the opposing delegation. Ths
others would drive the States from the democratic
world Let the test be applied to all none The Barn.
burners would DO excluded solely the merits Of ths
Wilmot proviso, and other. The right arm OF the
democracy paralyzed and wanted no invidious
distinctions test except for both delegations or
reject both, and leave neither ground for complaint
He closed by renewing the call for the previous ques-
ton.
The call for the previous question was sustained by
the following votes =
States Ayes. Nays. States. .ayes Ndys
Maine ......s 1 Alabama. i
New Hampshire Mississippi.
Massachusetts, IL Louisiana
Vermont. go. Texas. .....9
Rhode Island. Iowa.
Connecticut. Arkansas. -.