The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-01-09
THIRTIE TIL CONGRESS-.
FIRST SESSION.
House OF Representatives..
lar,
THE ENJOYMENT OF CLERK.

THE EMpLsyMEar A CLERK
Mr. GosGIN moved that the House resolve Itself into
Commi tee of the Whole the State Of the Union for
the purpose eff resumng the consideration OF the joint
resolution in relation to the transportation Of the south
ern mail. He gave way, however, TO allow
Mr. VISroN to introduce n resolution authorizing the
Committee of Ways and Means employ clerk 1t the
usual rate OF compensation
MIR Housrov, Of Alabsma-Ths resolution speaks Of
the usual allowance. Now, IL there usual sowancs
Mr.. VINroS-If the resolution shall be adopted, DO
will paid to any clerk than heretofore which,
believe IL four dollars q day.
Mr.. Housros-I will say this much, far as the reso
luton Ia concerned understand that but one other
committee has a clerk end lie is paid fifteen hundred
dollars per annun--I believe the Committee Of Claims.
Thereiors, there lie no ususl allowance
Mr. HESLy-i move to amend, by saying, four dol
lars day for the time the clerk is necessarily employed
by the Committee"
MIR JAMIEsoN-Is that the usual pepsation given
to clerks OF committees
Mr. vrNros-l understand that Is what has been paid
know clerks have been employed by committees for tho
last twenty years.
The resolution as amended ON motion Of Mr. Henly
was agreed to.
by unanimous consent, MIR. CoNoER, from the commit
tee heretofore appointed, made report 70 the effect
that the public printers had informed them that
Pr.sdeuts Message, and the accompanying docum snts
would make thirteen hundred pages, nine hundred and
forty of which would be laid this
morning, aud the remainder the 18th day Of Janua-
ry and they further report that the committee
the opinion that there has been no delay
in the execution Of the printing and that the prners
with the large amount OF work making much pro
grsss as their well organized force OF operatives will
admit.
On motion, the report was laid on the table and Or
dered to BIZ printed.
Mr HENLy asked and obtained leave to submit an
amendment to the rules, which lies over that the Com
mittee On Printing may report Ut any time.
THE DIFFICULTY ABOUT The RuLEs-THE auEsrIo
There Ia a rule that no member shall occupy moro
than hour in debate in the House or in Committee,
but a member reporting a measure from a COMMITTEES
may open and close debate provided, when debate
Is TO close by the order Of the House. five minutes shalt
be allowed IN ember for explanation of any amend
suh,. oh rfyup 4 soipftn ADJ aH
yesterday at about two O'clock TO close the debate at
nalE asst two The House have gone into committee.
Mr. Gogsin who opened the debate the joint resolu
ton reported by him from tho COMMITTEES on Post Ohss
and Post Roads to close the debats. While hs
speaking, the time liked Tor this termination OF TINS
debate arrived whea question OF order raised "
Mr.. j. Thompson that the debate must cl,re, N accord
ancs with the resolution OF the House The chsirman
decided that Mr. Goggn had hit to consums his hour,
from which decision an appeal taken. The commit
and motion made in tho House TO recon
slider the vote by which resolution close the de-
bate was adopted IN order just Of the
rule. The running debate which then sprung up was
ter minated by an adjournment.
-Mr. JAMESON made an enquiry this morning In rei,
ton TO the rule, and the
SPEAKER responded that the COMMITTEES could give a
construction to it They nigh. do 1t appeal from
the decision OF the chairman no reconsideration oil the
resolution 70 terminate the debate was necessary.
Mr.. J. THoMrsos-- understood the motion made
by the gentleman from Virginia, (Sr. GogginO this
morning 1t is 70 suspend the rules for the purpose
going Comittes Of the Whole on ths state OF
the MON to take up the resolution reported from ths
Committee on the Post ONCE. give notice that II We
90 into committee, I shall press the point Of order
which raised yesterday the gentleman endesVora to
conclude his remarks.
Ths question was taken on tho motion Reconsider
the by which the resolution TO Gloss the debate
was adopted, and 1t was decdedin the negative
The House resolved Itself into Committee Of the
Whole the State sf the Unon. Mr.. g. B. Smith
agaiu called to preside
The committee being in the position rs they
when they arose yesterday,
The CHAIRMAN stated the question aa appeal from
his decision thst notwithstanding the order TO close
the debate at certain tiue had arrived the gentleman
from virg mia had right to conclude his remarks
nir alM' o, Seu ~ oppV,rsu ~ u"ni. bs
fixed time to close debate, gentleman has 10 right
claim hour after the time has arrived for termins
ting discussion.
MIR Pollock vas understood to sustain the deolsion of
the Chairman.
Other gentlemen participated in the debate on tia
construction Of the rule. - -
Llr THOMPSON arose ut the same timo VIII Ar.
Truman smith
The last named gentleman awarded the door, aud
he said or all privileged questions rased this caps
the climax. Ia my judgment. c'Good' good y Tbs
great question when has occupied ths attention of
House for the greater part of two days, 10, whether
gentleman reporting bill shall have tho hour next be-
fore he pspt for closing the debate or the next two or
three points That is the great question under debate
aud which has called forth vast array OF orators
this floor (Laughtorl This Is the eysst consti.
tutioual question which called on to se,tlo
here ; whether member is TO close the debate
hour before or hour after rticular tine don't
know exactly how much time ha: already been oceuPl-
(Mr GoeginJ OILY made part tf an hours speech
when he was interrupted yesterday, and what Is to be-
some OF the remainder OF it don't know Lsughtet)
hope this frivolous and most contenptibls discussion
nay be brought to point IL makes no difference hsw
is settled whether one why or tho ether CThere
fere loud cries of question, question:, and much con-
usion)
MIR. j. THoMrsoN arose--I want to cay word IL
g. Question question'O want 20 knos-( Question,
luestion') Am in order'
The CHAIRMAN--The gentleman is not in order
I" Question question
MIR. THOMPSON Why mott
The CHAIRMAN-You have spoken once on the appeal,
MIR. THoMpsoN-l have n right, unless some other
member wishes TO speak. ("Osder, order--Qusstion,
question ~
The CHarRMaS-The rules say that no member shall
peak than once TO the same question, withous
a,d thau h.x