The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-12-22

to s.sct committee Of nine, much Of the message
a. relates the establishment Of territorial govern
uepts over Cslifor mia and New Mexico and the en-
fsrcement Of governments DE- faefo In those terri.
the Executive u the United States has rghtful su
thoriiy to exercise the powers OF government now
being Dforced over those territories
Mr. MEApE would rimpy remark tnat II the suoJecs
bould go the Committee the Trrr'or.es As pro-
posed by the gentleman from OHIO " 'nton) mani
| feat injustice would be done to To ath. In the
Organization Of that committee, but rec members
| trt m the South placed upon ir He expressed
The hope that due portion OF Sonthern.Is would De
sppoip ted the special committee, II IL should be
ordered.
men as agreed to-ayee 3d. noes 80
THE rAGur-wHAr THEREON.
The fourth resolution read as follows =" That
80 much of taid message relates to the tariffs OF
1886 and 1872 the revenue the state Of the treasury
the public debt the sub treasury the general condi-
rspd,ures fer the next h,csi year the unliqudated
claims Of citizens Of the United States against Me xco
and the establishment Of additional mnts be referred
TO The Committee Of Wsys and Means
MIR RuMsEy moved 10 refer this part CT the message
TO the Con mitee on Manufactured instead Of to the
on mittee Of Ways and Means.
Mr. Holmes, Of South Carolina Il would ask the
chairman Of The Committee Of Ways and Means whe-
Their the subject has not already been REFEREED
Mr.. VINroE The subject hes already been referred
by solution Of the llo,se. the motion made by
z, nt from Pennsy lvania
Mr. RumsEY-It ia uerely a resolution OF enquiry d.
Mr.. HoLNns-I think that all resolutions Of this
kind should be of enquiry. ask the House whether
they prepared in this state Of the country AT
ter at TO refer the question II tariff an re-
venue 10 con mittee, who will prtjud ge the whole
sui -ct and whether II does not be the House to
have full report the condition of the finances and
tie future prospects Of the country. before they pro-
coed to judge the question: for this Is no doubt the
object having referred to the Committee on Manu-
features? hope that before the new administration
comes in, We will as We ought to, psus~
MIR CoBB Of Georgia AS this amendment proposes
to t. Ike the question the COMMITTEES Of Ways and
Means ar refer it to the Committee on Manufactures
take granted that the object II TO consider the
question oi the a m ., .na $50 ~
fl, ct Of The revenue on the manufacturing Interests
OF the country
Mr.. RuMsry- The question Of revenue stil remains
with ihe onnittee OF Ways and Means ! DO not de-
sign to Ia k. the question from It.
Mt Conn., cannot conceive soy other object but
to have the subject Of prots examined in eonnsc
ton with the question Of revense unoer the present
syttem l have not risen to discuss the question OF
at this time but II TO Lose sigot OF reNe
rue, connected will the tarf system there are t~o
other interests aude to the interest OF agriculture
and that Of commerce; and no reason Why these
shGuld not BE- considered by the Committees on Agr
culture and Commerce, well by the Committee
Msnofsctufes: an Wiling ,nst shs 20 nm n OF
this the proper drectiou but II this Is to DO passed
by as proposed by the gentleman from New York, who
wnbes to refer IL to the Committee MaRufsc lures
| propose to add the Committees on Agriculture and
Con In order that our tariff system may bs
consider, merely the effect produced on tn.
MANUFACTURING Interests but on these Of agriculture
| and commerce sm DESTROYS Of seeing whether the
Houfe will lose sight Of these great interests, aud d.
rect all their energies TO the question of manufactures
alone. trust gentlemen will interpose NO obstacles
| to my meDCment.
perceive referring the subject to the
Agriculture they will not give the proper direc ion
iors t'ppe reason There are thots In TINS hoase OF
II at This is altogether revenue subject Others DO
| Lot think 20. ! am one of these voted, the other
day with besaon for the resolution to refer to
the Committee Ways and Means, the subject Of the
tsri tport bill based the principles Of the bill
IN the rs.oluion If i. bad sad duties aud protsc
tive tariff" should have liked it much BETTER for such
have always been my principles i suggest that. oy
features, and referring to other committees you
pre- clude tbat out and settle the whole question:
TT OF the manufacturing interests t Is not now
pscfsary to enter into Dir nsson Of this question
There has been discussion of the question recently
fLaughter.l But let that pass All | mean to cay 49,
that the subject should 60 to the Committee on Manu-
features
MIR. CoBB-I would ask Of the gentleman whether in
settling THIS question Of prott ction, he thinks the
s,. ~ :. ~ - ~ g.. ~. s =, W ~ co
ubject Of prote lotion
MIR. INeEEsoLL-T There is q committee commerce
and one on sgricultuie Let what specially relates to
Mr. Cons desire to know whether he looks on the
tariff operating the nufs curing interests
Mr.. INeEEsoLL-Y Yes cir; mainly 30. certsiuly.
Mir. HOLMES Under what category does Pen nsylva-
mia coal Gomez Under the head OF manufactures or
agriculture
Mr.. !serRsoLL-it is mineral. (Lsugbter)
Mr.. BoLMIs-I would ask another question. Wne-
tber be not in the advocacy Of the question Of
coal!
which from the earth and not less valuable than
Cslfor MIA gold
Mr. HoLSEs-D Did net understand you to ray that
you had reference to q duty on COAL
MIR. ISeERsoLL-l incline to the opinion that there
should be additional duty coal, but think that
something more should be put on iron. l have now
Mr. GrNTEY alluded to the proposition Of Mr.. Cobb.
In all his experience he had never seen such one.
MI Conn explained, and said that he would not In
sist the for Of bis amendment, unless the amend
Ee mt Of Mr. Rumsty we're pers. vered In
MIR GENTRY sao that al ihe Interests which had
been ebumeI at. d intimately blended. ipdis,ou
bl, connected and one could not be considered with
MI HOMES inquired, doe. my friend mean to say
that IL this question Of the tariff Is referred the Com
m,ttee on Manufactures. will BE the tense Of the
House hat duties should be imposed for the encou
rsgem' Mt Of manufacture without any regard to re-
venue?
Mr. GGxrY repeated, that all the interests CONNER
cial, agricultural, manufacturing, and the revenue
involved when the question referred; hence
be esid it did not after whether 1t in charge OF
| the Committee Of Ways AID Means Manufactures
| Commerce, or Agriculture. TIE former 10 the ap-
propriate to consider the subject Of the
Mr. Hoi made anot her inquiry, which the repor-
| ter did not hear with distipotne,s, to which
Mr. GtsTRy replied. The tariff Of 1912 smanated
from 'be COMMITTEES Of Ways and Means 1t was
good tsrih most exec lie mt protective tariff
| have doubt that the INTEL gent Committee Of
Wsys and Means, or the COMMITTEES on Manufactures.
with the lights and exp Renee before them make
better tariff shsll support the motion to refer this
part Of the meetsge to the Committee Of Ways and
Mtapp
Mr.. THOMPSON, Of Pennsylvania. gave his views
the question If the tariff and favor IF specifics, and
sgsips od roio,ts, as irjurous 10 the industry Of
the country. He in favor of the democratic priu
cipe- tariff for revenue with incidental prote cou.
Jbs tfthr he said 10 free trade Tne people
will dtma nd system that will protect industry. He
opposed the tariff Of 1872 he desired the duties
to be reasons BILE and moderate.
Mr. v'N1os brief gave his rea'ons for moving re.
ference Of the part Of the mssssge to the Com
it'e OF Wsyssnd Means 1t had heretofore had the
subject in charge.
Mr. BURT asked whether the Committee on Manu-
fact, res which origin in 1872 had reported
bill connected with the revenue?
Mr. VIrror replied that 1t was his Impression that
the bill of 1928 4, fl ON that Committee, and
r. ported by MIR Mallory, Cf Vermont After he
cluded bis remarks,
MIR GRtEn addressed the Committee, saying, in
the courte his that the tariff act Of ls4e had