The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1848-01-19

ders issued by President Tyler the object of which
10 transfer portion OF the regular forces OF the United
States near to the scene which going on IN one OF
the States OF the Union, involving question OF ITS con-
stialional government Well, upon that subject the
Senate would not entertain the proposition They laid II
upon the table, and kept there, in defiance of all the
efforts which could make TO get it up alleged that.
If rumor correct, the President doing thing
which he had no right to do, and which seriously pered
The public peace, and what more, the public rights
OF portion OF the citizens of the country The Senate,
however thought that it proper call for the
documents will say that in that the Senate was
wrong and that was right but speak of this as one oil
the historical "reminiscences of the past to which we
ought sometimes TO REFER when start propositions OF
this Kind and which may reflect some light upon the case
now before as pledge myself 10 vote for the most ultra
! resolution which any man can conceive Tor which he
will himself vote, laying down general rule with re-
gard TO the description of public business to which this
Senate has right and for which they have right to
cal.
say therefore, to the senator from North Carolina,
let him draw up general resolution decaratory OF the
rights OF the Senate upon this subject and he cannot
his resolution far he throw open the door too
widely; he cannot let in too much sunlight to lose
my supports for have been entertaining very ultra
IDEAS ON this subject OF making every thing public But
want time to consider the particular resolution which
he has submed and therefore desire that it may be laid
on the table until we make question decaratory of the
rights OF the body in this respect-a question which shall
result in the adoption of resolution appcablen all time
to come and by which shall measure all succeeding
ADMINISTRATIONS move, sir, the resolution be LAID upon
! the table.
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will withdraw his motion for moment.
Mr. ALLEN Certainly
Mr.. MANGUM. 1t s impossible, without a violation
of poprety and decorum, to alude to what has been
done IN the Senate when sitting in different capacity,
Mr. ALLEN The resolution to which had reference
was submitted in open Senate.
/ Mr. MANGUM. | am aware of that, sir But, in
swer to what has been said by the honorable senator
from Michigan on this subject have only to remark,
that it is perfectly competent for the President in what
regard proper difference to the Senaewhch is por-
on OF the Executive and exercises also share OF the
legislative faculty OF this governmento make all com
muncations to in the sctes confidence Is it TO be
antaned here, sir that we, who must give efficiency
and consummaon to all these great measures, acting moi
upon Executive, but upon our own respective response
bltes-s II to be commended that are to be refused IN
secret session such information it may be deemed i'm
proper TO communicate in public have inserted in the
resolution, in proper feeling OF decorum towards the
Executive, the usual clause, if compatible with the
PUBLIC service" protest sir against the doctrine that
the Executive can withhold from any information
which is necessary to intelligent action on our part
What deny us the means OF acting undersandingy and
ntegenty the measures submitted by the Executive
Sir, an absolute despotism could not ask for more
need not seek for more than that.
As regards the views OF the honorable senator from
Ohio, 1t seems 10 that he has considerably modified
his opinions on this subject The distinction is,
that all matters which touch internal interests and
affect constituency, the Executive is bound to give
all the information which we may demand; but that in
those which affect our foreign relations, and which
may very often involve matter of vastly greater decacy
and perhaps higher responsibility, the Executive Is not
to communicate information to confess cannot
discern the grounds on which such distinction Is drawn
believe the injunction of secrecy has been removed
from the discussion of the Oregon question in private
session 1t insisted then, that the discussion should
be OPEN and, be right in my recollection, the honor
able senator then entertained somewhat different opn-
ion from that which he has enunciaed here to-day II,
therefore, renewal OF the motion, this resolution
should be laid the table, shall regard decisive
expression of the Judgment OF the Senate that upon great
question involving vast expenditure of money deeply
affecting the future policy of the government the prin
cplc is asserted that to sit here as puppets of
tha utH phafau ma
be recommended to without the Executive condescend
ing to put us in possession OF those facts which we deem
essential to the formation OF just estimate OF his policy
Sir, hope that such judgment will never be affirmed
by the Senate
) Mr. CALHOUN The hour for taking up the special
order has arrived, and believe my colleague has the
floor; suggest that the resolution of the senator from
/, North Carolina be passed over till tomorrow
Mr.. MANGUM. have no objection to that, Sir,
The resolution was then passed over informally TIL to-
morrow.
THE TEN REGIMENT BILL
The Senate resumed the consideration, its third
reading, of the bill to raise for limited time. an addl-
Mr. BUTLER The bill upon your table, sir, proposes
to raise ten additional regiments, ten thousand men
rank and file, in addition to the regular army exist
ing and under the control of this government This bill
has been reported by the Military Committee, in conform
ty with the recommendation OF the Presidents and
also informed that it will be followed by another bill
giving to the Executive authority whenever he may think
proper to exercise it, TO call out twenty thousand voun
ecrs These the which will form the sub
ect of authoritative action at this time By the ex-
sng laws the President of the United States has the
basis OF army of sixty thousand men. There thr-
y regiments of regulars, believe, and about the
number of volunteers which have been authorized to be
called into service during this cannot be precise,
however, to the number of men who have been actu
ally in service but is certain that if all the regiments
of regulars filled up, there would be about twenty
eight thousand SIX hundred very nearly thirty hous
and men and understand there about thirty
thousand volunteers 1t is true, that of this number
we have not in the field, or under the actual
command OF officers more than forty-hve thousand
but it is sufficient say, that the President of the
United States, commander-inch of the army OF
this nation has the power to call out at this tmelf we
put the means in his power to pay them-siNty thou
sand armed men. He now asks that should add to
this number ten regiments to be raised by enisments
and, suppose, by another BILL twenty thousand voun-
teers to be placed at his dsposa-making in all ninety
/, thousand men. These, together with the and
marines, which also portion OF the army, would
make, if they called into actual service, hun
dred thousand men.
History generally takes notice of the more prominent
points in the progress and policy of nations and 1t must
my raised be concentrated upon single object,
by the republic of the United States of America
army for the invasion of her nearest nehbor, and the
9 only other republic the North American continent.
PoserIty sir will have right TO inquire why it was
that the councils of the United States had thought proper
to exert the highest attribute which, perhaps, be
erted for carrying of this description. We
indeed, told by the Presidenor those who speak for
him on this ioor--that although this number of
be at his dsposaaIthough he may call them out under
the authority OF existing laws-yet he rs not likely to
have onethrd of that number actually in
Sir this leads me to another question which | am
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