The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-04-23

third election
the Thrtieth Congress and Who did not acquire re-
sdancs previous to becoming inmates were not qusl
ned .scsor under the laws and constitution Of the STATE
of New York
Resolved That II not appearing satisfactory to this
House that they cast their ballots either for Mr. Jackson
or for Mr. Monroe. new -lsctiou to be held.
Mr. GsEES said he prcsum ID that the amebdment we're
designed to test the question In all Investigations of
this character tn. Hous- mus. BE- governed by ge
rules of Jurisprudence and appeal Is to be
taken from their decision " beloved them to give
TO this suNj.ct due and careful cousidsrution Th.v
are d,tsrmins whsh.r tn. ohocs of the reprsssI
tativs is and wheth.r tbs majority acted
properly or i'm properly They not to say which of
his seat judging from the facts The constitution Of
the STATE Of Nav ork says that evsry citizen
habsnt one year next preceding any election and for
the last Elk months resident Of the county where
may or his vote shall be entitled to vots the town
ward where he actually residssn 60 IL the L-Ris.
lsture lives any particular district In ward where
su shall vots 1t transceuds the constitution, which is
the suprsms authority, and 10 therefore void
Mir DYER wished to ask q question. Suppose n ward
hdivdsd part fsn., 10 Congregational district
and the other In another district can
man vote in sither congressional district which
part of the ward Is inc udedf
Mr. GsEEN replied that such state Of things not
Bot the Legislature should divide ward, the voter
under the constitution. would have right to vote 10
any part OF the ward and the Is that the const
tuition has fixed his right and tho Legislative authority.
which must b, In subordna'ion to the constitution must
yield II psueers GENT 70 thu a'm'-hou.e voluntarily
they we're legal voters. aud entitled to vote.
A was very prnpsriy said b. the gentleman from
Geo gle, (Mr Cobb the cases OF the atudeuts OF
thu Prin,stou sam arr and the inmates Of tn.
the al~s similar. The studsnts there
iud-nuits time They Engaged in studies and il
tended to here wh~n thew received thir educs
ton The paup~rs to thu hous. for en- iadea
nj period Their r~sence there more perm sne Mt
where Mr. Green. in conoiu ion. rscspitulstsd tn.
points OF his speech. First You csnnot req lire
to live in any dstric Of ward enttls him
to VOTE seo"ndly-That reii-noe in the aims house
s actual residences under the consultation, whicn
suthorz-. man to vots. and tho nav conforms to the
construction Of the old; and thirdly that there Is
Illegal votes
NJ. CoscrR, of NV York denied that tbs psupors'
sexual r-sdrncs WAS the aims house. Wherever the
actual residences there Is the legal residence There
no such thing as pauper going to the pooi house
for a red-oce He ia admitted there because he
support himself from s,cEuess some other So
coon as he RECEIVERS from sickness, and support
himself be is sent without the walls OF that place. H.
hs. no alternative He may there against hts viii;
he is not rsritept To establish q permanent resi-.
pose ofremainipg Tn. frat thing Mr. Conger % about
the election was in democratic paper which said that
this contest vas trumpet up and from that time there
have been reoestsd attempts through the democratic
prints induce the belief that Mr. Mcnroe's
merits He admitted that this subject discussed
In of both pares but he denied that tine matter
was prejudged through the whg press He referred
tho character of the illegal voters and alluded to the
Mr. MunrHv.-I do not wish my remarks to be mis-.
represented wish colleague to read from the los h
Of the printed evidence and part Of the present
ment OF the Grand Jury. l will read 1t
Mr. CoNGER.-I have it, and will read 1t
Mr.. MuRrHY Very we'll, sir. | said that there was
no evidence that frauds committed, alleged
the sixth aud seventh specifications Az to convcts
Bsckwss Island voting, the evidence before the Grand
jury shows distinctly that not single voted ask
the gentleman read that part of the presentment
MIR CoNoER-I say that it shows 81 thing but
the contrary that oonvicts from Black Wells island
thrown loose the city, having the power vote
i do not say that they did vote but insist that
enough shown to prove that they had
pied designed that they should vote but, fortu
nAtey, the purpose was defeated Fourteen ar.
rate plan oonoocted to force the convict But
was defssted, and rejoice that While part Of
cseded Mr. Conger proceeded that the psupers
were taken from the houses in omnibus.s vote
Mr. JEsEISs of New York, address, the House. He
said that the contestant must show that prior the
inmates going to the poor house. they not voters
The laws Of New York extend to inmates the poor
house the rights that enjoyed BY men in the
possession of millions.
MIR CoscER Inquired whether, at page l25 Of the
printed evidence, did not appear that when they
asked where their residence, the psupers not
OF them, said the poor-house
Mr. JENKINS replied that that did not matter. If oil
OF them were asked where their residences and not
one OF them why not and ask where
they old reside?
this mornrg as to read that satisfactory evidence
does Not exist that either Mr. Monroe OF Mr. jackson
vacancy Is hereby declared 10 exist.
THE coNTEsrANr
MIR. MONROE having . former occasion been per-
itted By rssou ion of the House. to address it. arose
and esid that he had proposed So declined
having las. night caught cold by working the fire Hs
had bsoa kept here four months and haf Any thing
that he might say would not. perasps change . single
vote. He might to be present many strong points
but ne was perfectly willing that the HOUSE should
now act. He declared soemnly that he would not
have here to the seat If he had NOT
svsd hsfore God and in Difference the just rights
that he would not address the House On the
rits of the question and that he perfectly willing
that the vote should BE- taken He could only inform
gsntlemeu that toere Is Law In tho State of New
York which authorizes special elsction.
Ne srARKwEArHs. was Understood to deny this
MIR. MoNnoE replied that he had carefully informed
himself In relation to this particular and H. true
But WHISTLER MIR u 8. Jackson James Monroe was
elected to the doss not alter the great principle
which thu entire people Of the Uni'ed
the great question OF preserving the purity of cleo.
tons While our population is sparse, let US do it, He
Oh sc ~ t,, toe mig side tho democratic side
His object to show that gross frauds perpe.
trsted in the Congressional district For that purpose
Tbs Law provaes mode whatever for taking testi.
mony He, therefore, could not do it. The laws Of
special commission for that purpose After fifteen
months delay short memories, every thing against
and he stated for the people know It, that had
pay five dollars TO the COUNSEL of the sitting member
bring up witness and whom he did come his memory
was short He only stated what he mad heard He
asked every member vote whatever way he believed
TIL asst and proper under the rights secured BY the
stitution.
THE SITTING MEMBER
Mr. JACKSON referred to what Mr. Monroe said Of the
character of witness He extremely sorry that
Mr. MosnoE replied that he wished 1t to be distinctly
understood that he did not attack his character.
Mr. JACKSON said that he not . eloquent a. the
genrlem great deal had been said about the
sttutonality OF the question, and the rights of the
paupers 70 vote suppose, for arguments sake, that
mona OF the psupers entitled vote hsvi
previously acquired residence in the ward
OF tas third district Let the contestant prove that they
did not live there Let him put his fngsr those who
did not IL was shown that only thirty eight out OF
the whole number came from other places and twenty.
two Dr. Hasbrock supposed from other places,
cause theS did not from the almshouse What did
DR. Hssbrook know shout 1T He had only been tn
i've months, and WA appointed from the eighth district
Take thirty eight from his Mr Jscksons jority (s
that we're proved as not residing there and his sec
was well established. Mr. Jackson examined the
furher to show that there proof that these
voted illegally and that the fact that democratic
tiexen were marked and otherwise designated, did
prove that they were cast for him There proof
tnst all the inmates OF the ams house voted the demo-
cratic ticket There much confusion in the hall
ard We had to guess at what have vensured to