Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1848-08-19


in order voted down by the Senate That extra
ordinary vote. II Unprecedented II unheard Of
Mr. BENTON called the Senator from Tennessee order,
and asked for the reading Of the rule which required Senators
to speak the subject before the Senate and further he call
ed for the enforcement of that rule
Mr. FOOrE said that rule should have been enforced at
az earlier period of the session
Mr.. TURNEY did not understand that there was any
point of order made by the Senator from Missouri
Mr. BENTON said he had asked for thing to be done.
Mr.. FOOTE insisted that the Senator from Missouri had
right to make such motion while aSenaor speaking
Mi. TURNKEY said he insisted that his words which were
objected to irrelevant should be put down in writing.
Mr. FOOTE also conended that the words should be taken
down.
The PRESIDING OFFICER made some observations
which did not reach the gallery.
Mr.. TURNKEY said he going to give very briefly
the history Of the proceedings this BILL and he wished
know any body had before been called to order pur
suing such q course.
Mr.. KING begged remind the Senator from Tennessee
that there no bill under consideration.
Mr.. TURNKEY asserted that there The Oregon bill
embraced in the pending resolution the adoption of which
necessary give that bill the force of law and
quently the whole question was opened for discussion.
He then proceeded Some extraordinary steps had
been taken to force this bill through this body The had
been applied and had been applied for the first time to
the passage OF this bill But that not the only mat
Of which he complained So far his knowledge
tended the practice Of the Senate had been, in all Of
sagreeing votes between the TIVE Houses To appoint
mttee Of conference. But that had been refused
had been resorted to for the first time this and was
done for the purpose Of forcing through that
more obnoxious to section of this Union than any other
subject of legislation which had come before them during the
present session. Why should they be called upon
pend the RULES to give this bill the force and effect Of law He
not willing to to such proceeding
He should now give his objections this BILL and he should
be very brief and yet he should hurry himself If there
other important bills embraced in this resolution whicht
necessary pass gentlemen might deach them act upon
them separately, and they could be disposed Of in
utes To that he would consent But they should refuse
gentlemen need not expect him to shrink from the response
bily Of opposing this resolution Whatever responsibility
there was, would rest on others.
He then recapuated the proceedings the Houses on
the subject Of the Oregon BILL which resulted in disagreement
between the two Houses and what he asked the Senate
be gained by surrenderng the House of Representatives
The Senate sem to the House compromise BILL after
consideration by the Senate and its passage by large major
y, and the House unceremonousy laid upon the table.
After that the House of Representatives passed this Oregon
bill which was about onehird of the bill which the House
had rejected.
Mr. MILLER inerposed and reminded the Senator from
Tennessee that the pending resolution had reference
alone to the Oregon BILL but twenty thirty Others
amongst which the army bill
Mr. TURNEY should vote against the resolution, although
did embrace other bills But if the Senator from New Jer-
sey would offer separate resolution in relation the army
BILL he (Mr would inerpose objection. But did the
Senator suppose that he could be off from giving his dec
ded opposition this Oregon bill If he very much
mistaken gentlemen would put number of bills together
they take the consequences for he could thus allow
himself to be brought to favor the passage of bill which
his judgment dsapproved. The House of Representatives
had decided that it would pass bill which silent the
subject of slavery They stand the
constitution. They that the citizens of this
republic should enjoy the rights which secured to them
by the constitution and hence they had rejected the Oregon
bill them by the Senate They had rejected because
in bad company. The House afterwards the
Senate bill establish Territorial Government in Oregon
by ITSELF and the Senate returned with second proposition
OF compromise on the basis OF the Missouri compromise,
giving them large portion Of the territory, and they had
fused to accede to that and had sent the bill back amended
In this of things the Senate asked yield TO
the House. without committee Of conference being al
lowed them, although it the law of the body,
and allowed in every other And not only q commit
OF conference denied hem but gentlemen had been gagged
and refused permission deliver their sentiments in this body
important question; but notwithstanding their rights
had been thus outraged they asked TO stand here in 81
lence and permit this bill to pass through and that might
be forced through the army bill and others had been
coupled with it. Senators must net, however, expect TO force
him by thus coupngst with others Let each tub stand
its bottom, and let each bill stand on its merits;
but let them not expect accomplish their purpose by this
unholy and unnatural alliance. II, by such alliance,
necessary defeated let the responsibility
those who thus coupled them. II Senators would blend
together, they bear the responsibility. He should
not for this resolution that account and he will
ling take all the responsibility that would attach TO him for
any vote that he might give. He willing
the State OF Tennessee, and to where else be
sponsible
to the Chair and to the Senate point Of order He made
it certainly without any heat passion He to
point Of order which he PROFOUND distinctly and
for the purpose Of discussing any length but ask for
decision by the Chair and the Senate The position which
they stood could bot be well known every
Less than hours hence and this Senate would stand ad
journed
Mr.. WEsTCOTT rose to question Of order The Sena-
tor from Massachusetts had highland he said il respect
fuly-to make speech on his point Of order.
Mr.. WEBSTER would state the point of order which be
had risen make These prorscted debates this stage Of
the session certainly Of order and against the rule Of
the Senate which requires Senators speak the question
pending before the Senate He made this point OF order
last effort hrs part TO complete the business Of the Senate
in relation the Oregon BILL the army BILL and others which
highly important and he asked the Senate with respect
for the gentleman from Tennessee prolonged debate such
that which the gentleman from Tennessee inclined to
go into in order II the Senate should say was he
should not have another word to say
Mr.. TURNEY required the Senator from Massachusetts, to
put his point Of order in writing for he wished il the
Journal.
Mr.. WEBSTER willing 10 do 20 il il required.
He then submitted his point Of order this effect 81 cal
the Senator from Tennessee order tie ground that the
course Of discussion in which he indugng not releunt
TO the subject before the Senate"
Mr. TURNEY wished the Senator from Massachusetts, TO
indicate the irrelevant words.
Mr.. WEBSTER replied that that was bis point Of order,
and the Senate would judge for itself the words
Mr. CALHOUN denied that the gentleman from Tennes-
out Of order.
Mr. JOHNSON, Of Maryland, inquired il he understood
that the opinion Of the Senate asked this ponof order