Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1848-06-03

time stop debate and bring The committee to on any
i bill
Mr.. VINT0N assented but, he added that wa, one of
those subjects which gentlemen could be gagg here
He did not say that he wished speak upon him but
there was great question involved which had been much de-
baied out OF place. and when il should up ia proper
place he should be disposed hear both sides OF the House
upon it. and to give gentlemen from all portions Of the
country an opportunity express their sentiments. He
not willing TO take up that bill, with the understanding that
the gag was TO be applied in its passage There ho
eesary connexion between the territorial bill and the propo
sion Tor the protection of the citizens of Oregon and he de-
sired mat they should be kept separate We l daily
expectation receiving intelligence of the ratification Of the
treaty oil peace with Mexico, and then there would be large
military force at the disposal of the Government which would
render unnecessary these additional troops which the gentleman
from Georgia called for
Mr. BOYDEN asked why it that the President of the
United states could send into Texas, yea
the territory Of Mexico without giving notice to Congress
his intention to do and yet could send aid
citizens IN Territory Of Oregon without calling upon
Congress for authorlyl
Mr. VlNTON replied that that was question which the
gentleman from North Carolina could answer well he
could lie then expressed the hope that the Oregon Terrific
rial Dill would not be made to interfere with the general appro
priaion bills.
Mr. HARRISON said it was important to act speedily on
this message from the President Of the United States Our
citizens who inhabitants Of Oregon need of
military aid to protect them against the Indian tribes, and
prompt action necessary give them that aid He hoped
it would not be mixed up with the consideration Of the Oregon
territorial bill for when that bill shall up would be
discussed from day to day and week week, and hence
was important TO give this message such direconor
stance BY referring it to the Military Committees would
lead to the furnishing Of speedy relief those who appeal
US for protection.
How could this be done They were separate questions
both embraced true in the message of the President
one, however urging the importance OF the establishment of
Territorial Government in Oregon and the other specific
recommendation that the President be authorized to raise
volunteer force for the purpose Of going speedily the
of these Disturbances and giving relief our citizens there
of the If
that the Presidents message be referred the Committee
Military Affairs, with instructions that committee report
and to report forthwith if they pleased bill this House
authorizing the President raise sufficient force to proceed
forthwith to Oregon give citizens there the relief they
demand Thus speedy relief would be afforded and the House
would not place themselves the attitude disregarng the
call and engaging in idle debate upon subjects disconnected
with that relief The two subjects not connected with
each other the related the establishment of Terrific
rial Government which might tend ultimately securi
y against the encoachments of the Indians and the other
proposed to raise military force for their immediate relief
Mr. COBB wished to make The simple suggestion to his
colleague that this which the people Of Oregon
were engaged with these Indian Tubes originated in conse-
quence OF the failure of this Government establish Indian
agencies there TO concae and control tem and furnish them
those articles which usually given the Indians and
necessary for carrying peaceabe relations with them
That of the chief Of the present difficulties
The establishment Of Indian agencies would be effective
towards putting end to this war; and restoring friendly
atons, than all the regiments could send They needed
both but until Congress gave them the protection of law
all other of relief were merely and might
| do assmuch harm good.
Mr.. HARRISON replied that he had lust voted 10 make
the Oregon bill the special order for early day. and he
trusted he should not be considered opposed speedy action
But he asked his colleague he did know that was ut
tey impossible have prompt action on the territorial bill
as he In his fervo might DESIRE 1t had already been intimate
ed that there various questions which might in the
discussion OF that bill upon which very large number
members might desire 10 be heard
Mr.. COBB would his colleagues inlerrogatory
ton which could arise out Oft Oregon BILL either in its pre-
sent form might be amended which had not been
discussed over and agan and upon the determination of
This House TO act not 10 would depend the early de-
cision or the postponement of the question.
Mr. HARRISON agreed that of the questions which
would grow the Oregon Territory bill had been discuss
sed year after year and session after session but urged that
IN all probability they would be discussed again Could
member expect that the questions embraced that bill would
not be discussed when up be acted He per-
haps might not be disposed the discussion
other gentlemen would and already had the floor upon
IL and would be difficult if impossible, close the de-
bate al an early day. If the motion 10 lay the table pre-
vailed he would 60 with his colleague consider speedily
as possible the Oregon Territory bill if failed he should
move TO refer the message TO the Committee Military AZ
fairs, with instructions to prepare and report bill making
proper provision for aodng immediate security our peo
pie in Oregon. But they might do both they might and
ne hoped they would as possible proceed consider
the territorial BILL and them If his antcipatons fulfilled
the Committee Military Affairs might report the bill TO az
ford prompt relief, which he hoped would be passed i'm
mediaey and then gentlemen could spend the time in dis
cussing the bill to establish the territorial government
Mr. C0LLAMER said there had been several instances in
the Of his short Congressional experience in which a,
least there had been this successful expermentthat some
pressing emergency seized hold of because pressing
not for the purpose Of providing for that peculiar exgency
but Of taking advantage Of that exgency carry the
together with something else This experiment had
In various forms successfully been pracised upon the
House He referred, Of the notable instances 10
the preamble Of the BILL thus forced through in con-
nexon with which had been driven votes some under
protest. which he thought many Of them had had occasion TO
deplore they had not, the country had ga burnt child
breads the fire. He inclined from this experience TO
say, If there were an exgency arising they should conne
their action to this eIigency, and undertake connect
with IT. artificial continuance other which had no
necessary connexion. He thought in raising the army for
Mexico, they did not conne their action the erigency
and seemed to him that this occasion he could perceive
similar attempt What the OF the case We had
been informed that inhabitants who had gone TO Oregon
in great peril that the Indians had waged war upon
them and had already committed and boodhed Very
well the first proposition offered Immediately 10 take up
certain bill establish Territorial Government in Oregon
Now he asked whether that bill would protect the people
II passed Would it stop the Indian war Would il afford
relief to the citizens there Not all it did no such thing
But there had been open avowa Of another which
was TO take advantage Of this exgency press through the
Territorial bill and prevent the discussion Of the question of
slavery in that Territory and il said, moreover that the
subject bad been talked about enough Now IL gentlemen
chose allow themselves after this purpose had avowed
to be coaxed into transaction of this kind they did Il with
their eyes open. He would not.
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