The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1848-08-15

would open the door He was willing to suspend the
rule Tor any great public measure Congress had adopted
The rule Tor sufficient Ii is important rule to
give the President time to consider bills In ordinary
cases, he would not object TO suspension of the rule
bu here was question OF great importance and it was
anew question. Those who opposed to the Oregon
bill IN the shape in which had passed could against
me suspension OF the rule In pressing this measure
through, all parliamentary courtesy had been disegarded
A senator had been treated with dscouresy-cut of
from his speech while in the midst of the delivery.
! Mr.. BENTON called for the reading of the order
which compes senator to conine himself TO the ques-
Mr. FOOTE called the senator from Missouri to order
for lnterrupting senator in his remarks
The CHAIR referred TO the rule, which was read
| Mr.. TURNEY insisted that he had right TO give a
historical sketch of the proceedings this bill. He
stated the in which il was urged through, and
that committee OF conference had been refused
He did wish TO speak against tme but he would not
hurry HIMSELF while he stated the grounds of his oppos
hon to this resolution The responsibility OF his course
bill giving laws to California, New Mexico, and Oregon
which sent from the Senate 1t was unceremonous-
ly voted down, without examination and laid on the
table. The House then took up bill embracing one
third OF the provisions Of the rejected bill
| Mr. MILLER reminded the senator that this resou-
ton embraced all bills. 1t not for the Oregon bill
alone that the resolution introduced the army bill
and several other bills had not yet been to the
President
Mr. TURNEY resumed He should vote against the
resolution although he did not desire to defeat the army
and other bills which he regretted find in such bad
company He then stated what means had been resorted
to- for the purpose of defeating the wishes of the South
The committee OF conference had been refused the Sab
bath had been violated senators had been off in the
midst of their speeches. and the rule to be sus-
pended for the purpose OF getting this Oregon bill through
The other bills which had been named in unholy
company and they lost let the responsibility be
on those who placed them in such company
Mr. WEBSTER rose to point of order, on which he
did not desire to make speech, but which he asked
the decision OF the Chair He insisted that prolonged
to the question before the Senate decidedly out
of order according to the rule Of the Senate
Mr. WESTCOrT called the senator from Massachu-
sets to order, for going into argument instead of
Mr. TURNEY insisted on the point of order being re-
duced to writing, and entered on the journal.
Mr. WEBSTER then reduced the point of order TO
writing He called the from Tennessee order,
because the course OF discussion he was now pursuing
was not relevant to the question under discussion.
Mr.. TURNEY asked in what respect he had departed
from the rule Of the Senate
Mr.. CALHOUN commended that the senator from Ten
nessee had not Violated the rule OF the Senate He had
not been out of order in his argument far he had
heard him; and he desired know in what respect he
Mr. WEBSTER replied In attempting in an irregular
manner to defeat measure which had received the sane
MIR. TURNEY resumed stating that he had right to
discuss the Oregon bill
mir FOOTE was asonished at the remarks of the
senator from Massachusetts,, impugnng the motives of
senators, atrbuting to them a design to accomplish
an improper object in improper manner The stand
OF that senator equal to that of any senator and
he desired that such opinions should pass without
| comment.
The CHAIR called the senator from Mississippi to Or
der.
Mr.. BERRIEN asked for the reading of the seventh
rule, which requires that the words should be taken
down on which the point of order made, and asked
that the of the Senate should not be taken on an
abstract question, but that the words shall be taken
DOWN
The CHAIR did not regard the point made by the SEN
aor from Massachusetts as coming within the rule
Mr. JOHNSON OF Georgia rose to address the Senate
when
The CHAIR called the senator from Georgia to order
Mr. IURNEl said he had finished his remarks.
Mr. WEBSTER said that in that case he would with
Mr.. TuRNEY insisted on vote being taken.
Mr. WESTCOTT rose to a point of order.
Mr.. RUS SIX called the senator from Florida to order
The CHAIR decided the senator from Florida to be out
| of order.
Mr.. RUSK said he was satsGed-he had done his duty
he should vote against the appeal to the Senate Faugh
with mischief as the bill was, he was willing to
leave it the hands of the Executive act as he could
justify before God and his country The majority had
passed the bill and on them and on The Executive let the
responsibility rest There the army BILL and there
were also some thirty private bills, which in the
same predicament
Mr.. WEBSTER reminded the senator from Texas that
he had withdrawn his point of order.
la message was here received from the House, CON-
resolution TO suspend the joint ruel
Mr.. RUSK resumed. The Secretary of War informed
hm, few moments ago, that it would be impossible for
INN to carry on the operations OF the government for any
length OF time, unless the army bill passed He
minded the Senate of the numerous officers and soldiers
VINO nau Ialtnuy served their country who would be
lett without their pay unless this resolution agreed
to- He appealed therefore, to his friends to withdraw
their opposition and let the bill go the Senate and let
the majority take the consequences.
Mr. KING SAID he had made motion to insist the
amendment OF the Senate; but the motion recede had
the preference. He willing after the discussion had
proceeded to the length at which argument exhaust
el-he ready now, to yield to the will of the major
ity. and let them take the responsibility. He hoped his
friends would cease from opposing the suspension of the
rule, and let the bill go to the President He knew it
to be the opinion of some, that there was not now
time for the President to give proper consideration the
subject; but he desired the Executive to have the oppor-
tunty of deciding for himself
Mr.. CALHOUN said the majority had tax en- all the
responsibility OF the rejection of the Oregon bill and all
the other bills themselves, by their this dis
two houses He then stated the which had led
to the adoption OF this rule 1t to give the President
ample time for the examination of bills. Ten days
allowed by the constitution, and the last day of the
sion is portion of those ten days He then reverted to
the time which had been occupied on this bill, and in
sisted on the improperly of sending such bill to him,
within hour and half of the adjournment of Con-
been adopted and the South would be justified in stand
ing out and resisting TO the last. He concluded with
moving to amend the resolution, except the Ore
gon bill.
On motion by Mr. BENTON, the resolution was laid
the table, for the purpose of taking up the message of
the House suspendng the joint rule.
Mr.. JOHNSON of Maryland moved to amend the reso-
tied IAN establish territorial government in Ore
gon"
Mr.. CALHOUN asked for the yeas and nays; which
were ordered.
The question was then taken on the amendment, and
decided as follows: yeas 20, nays 81.