The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1848-08-07
THlRTIETIl CONGRESS-.
FIRST SESSION.
Senate.

Senate.
WASHINGTON, August 8, 1913.
Mr. DoUGIAss, during the morning hour, reportt d
back the House bill providing territorial govern
which gives the veto power Of the governor order to
secure the treasury against excessive expenditures by
the action q the Legislature.
THE rRovIso-THE MISSOURI COMPROMISE.
Another, and the mos. important amendment, is a
9uaiihcation Of the Wimet proviso which is retained
in the bill The amendment provides, that inasmuch
as the territory Of Oregon lies above the parallel of 3G
deg 20 min, or that known the line of the Missouri
compromise; therefore, (by adopting the Iowa law)
slavery involuntary servitude in said territory
except for tho punishment of crimes Sc, shall be
ever excluded. Thus, then, far Oregon lie con-
cerned, the Senate is at length driven to the Mis-
souri, compromise, the only plan Of settling the diff
fhcuty. The bill made the special order for Mon
day next
After the disposition of other business,
On motion OF Mir. ATHERTeN, the Senate resumed,
THE CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC BILL.
81, an smehoment was moved appropriating some
Sl6.0 TO Mr. Anderson for acting as charge ds aares
in Paris while Gen Cass the Minister absent from
France on trip to the East
SENAToR-Where was Gen. Cass 4?
Mr. HANNEcAS-He was gone to the Holy Land
Mr. MILLER appealed to MIR. King to state the usage
Mr.. KING stated, that during the summer mo this the
diplomatic corps generally took, from the capitals at
which they were accredited trip of few months in
to the country for health and recreation He had done
So leaving usual his duties ad TO the secretary
OF gation; but for this it not customary to bring
bill OF extra expenses upon the government. When
he left France to return home and bad assigned his
duties 10 bis secretary Of legation, the secretary was
larry emitted 10 pay as charge des oGdires until the
arrival of MIR. Rub. Ibis ame ndment, however was
bad precedent and he hoped it would not be adopted
Nessls Dayton, Mason King, and Hannegan; further
discussed the amendment, which was rejected
MEXICAN BOUNDARY.
MT. HANNEGAN moved $50 600 for expenses of run.
ming the boundary between the United States and
Mexco and for pay of commissioners operatives, &C.
NJ. BuTLER-lf so much be necessary.
MT HANNEoAN-lt will all be necessary. No doubt
about that
MIR. KNo-ADy estimate?
Ar
$4,000
Agreed to, appropriatng sum not exceeding $4,000
for the running the said boun dairy, &C.
BIG TELESCOPE.
Mr. fULEE moved an item of 1000 towards an ac-
4uistion ior the National Observatory in Washington
refracting telescope, Of the scope required would
cost about S12ooo0; but rejecting telescope equal
In power to the magnificent instrument of Lord Ross
could be constructed here for about $4,000.
Mr.: ArHER1oN-How much did Lord Rosss telescope
cost
Mr. YuLEE-I don't know He made it himself
And this 1t is proposed to construct the arsenal
II will cost little more than the materials 1t will per-
haps be necessary to send young man to work fey
months in the shop of Lord Ross, otherwise all The
work can be done at the arsenal.
MIR. ATHERToN-l have idea that this telescope
can DO made for O00 and consider that this appro
priation rs but the beginning of large expenditure
that will be required for this object / hope the bill
will not be loaded down with anne ndments.
The amendment was rejected.
COMMODORE DE KEr-THE MAcEDoNIAN.
Mr. DIX, with some explanatory remarks, moved an
item of $4,000 for money paid out account of the
trip Of the u s. ship Macedonian with food for the
people Of lreland-said reimbursement being indepen
dent OF the personal salary OF the commodore and the
earnings Of the ship, which not included.
Mr. BRIcHT-I recolect this case. Commodore De
volunteered to take the command Of the ship free Of
charge; and now, sir, without some examination, am
opposed to springpg this subject upon the Senate
MIR DIx-The subject is not sprung upon the Senate.
member Of the Finance Committee, who is sick to-
day, submitted the anne ndment to me.
:, MT WEsrcoTT had seen the evidence in this case.
Understood
ready pay the freight of the ship, but Ameri
Ssn citizen Commodore De Kay properly declined It,
DE Kay preferred to pay them himself, and trust to
the justice Of his government. He could be compen-
stated by the British government now, but, as an
American: should feel ashamed to drive him to this
resort.
Mr.. DIX concurred in what had been said by the
Senator from Florida Com. De Kay only asked to be
reimbursed in the sum actually paid out of his
pocket for the and expenses Of the trip His time
and services were given to the cause in which he
volunteered.
MIR MILLER supported the amendment.
Mr. fuLEr thought that Com DE Kay had volun-
teered to furnish
MIR Foorr-so we have men who volunteered for the
war but that does not remove our obligation TO pay
them. lie volunteered to furnish the crew but will
any man contend that he should be responsible for
the expense of the after deducng all the profits
Of the ship
Mr. DArroN-This anne dment commends itself to
the right feeling and the justice Of the Senate well
as TO its liberelity He does not ask compensation
for himself He only asks to be reimbursed his actual
expenses PAID out Of his pockets In what atti-
tude does the government stand? Here We have our
citizens stretching forth their hands to the relief Of
the starving vretches Of the old world and the Senate
o. the Unitd States hestatiDg upon act Of justice,
wnch the British governmen mt would have met without
y WORD oi INQUIRY. Mr.. Dayton continued most ear
nesfly TO Vndicate the reimbursement Of the Commo-
dorc
Mr. BADGER but for the eloquent appeal from the
Senator from New Jersey, would not have said word
upon the subject He would now say he was opposed
to the amendment There Is not the slightest obliga-
ton the government to pay penny Of these ex-
pensee We lent the ship as u favor The application
for Of expenses the the part those
persons interested in the expedition discredtabe
We have had no such application from Boston
account Of the jamestown and suppose they have
ever thought Of making such an application.
Mr.. PIAhcg adyerted TO the Official correspondence
between the respecting the freight Of the
showing that out of respect to the United
States the British government did not intend to pay
said freight.
MIR. BUTLHR was opposed to the amendment.
MIR ALLEr-f there any error in this business
il error on the side Of humanity and an error
Of which never wish to repent; and shall therefore
vote to reimburse this gentleman for his expenses in
this expedition.
MIR DIV explained that the expenses for the crew of
Jsmestow we're paid by individual contributions-the
expsnsee of the Macedonian Tell upon Com. De Kay.
Nr PHELPS thought the refusal to grant this money
would be equivalent to robbipg an individual Of sixteen
thousand dollars
iec.shp OF this Item II IL should be rejected and drew
an pr,eipp picturo Of the pretensons OF this govern
uent TO generosity In the face OF all the "orid u
should follow up its late expanded sympathy by WITH
holding from a private citizen the money which ne ex
pend,d upon the good faith and TO the credit OF the
government 49,.
Mr. YviIr thought this application was dscredita-
HE TO the city Of New York.
Mr. Br,cuf after the eloquent vindcation Of this
claim BY the Senator from Texas, must confess tnat
my opposition TO " IL overwhelmed.
Mr. Dn dissvowed the charge that New YORK was
responsible for the payment Of these expenses
A., ed his colleague, and thought