The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-10-24

remarks He had no disposition to argue the PROPOSE.
address himself to two principles i.t The canonica
import meaning and effect Of the sentence, aud In de-
fence of his proposition and in resistance to that Il
the gentleman from Pennsylvania; and 2dly. the au-
thoty consistently with the csnonical effect Of the SEN
which the convention had to give the relief which
the report Of the joint committee proposed to give Be-
fore doing this he proposed to consider Of
the objections which had been urged They had heard a
great deal Of the snormity Of withholding relief from
the diocese Of New York. They had been told
that they would withhold from the diocese means
Of grace He was surprised-startled at such ex
pressions They could not withhold from church.
men the means Of grace The conclusion was that II
Bishop Ondsronk should bs restored or an episco
cate consscrstea his paoe-that II Bishop Onderdonk
should live twenty years or sothe diocese would be in
complete state Of hesth-nism. With such a bench OF
bishops az they now had, such q contingency, could
happen The msrest child in eccesissticai asirr
would readily do away with this busbsar. They had
they had been asked to form their opinion after the
analogy Of civil regulations Now the truth was that
the church was In respect analogous to OWL nstitu
tons Civil institutions could be originated and changed
at the instance Of mere human institutions Was the
church so at ths disposal Of men The great God Of
church. The church was the spiritual mother, and
though they could be born again IN one sense, they
could not be born again 10 such sense as TO become
the spiritual children Of any Other parent Inc gentle
insisted upon comparing spiritual things with tenn
poral
strued his remarks and explained them He commended
that the church was Of divine institution not human
Judge happy to DO corrected iii He could
Was AZ all an analogy tn. church But he would 60
further. suppose judge should be suspend.
ed : Must the court be shut up Yes, if
such case mould ever occur. But legis
Iativs bodies hsi seen the folly of suspsnding
oicer vivid' that they had made provision for
such oontingsicy; with regard to the rights OF New
York there oeud be right ask this convention to
do wrong What the consequence Of these consde-
ations! That they to provide far as they could
consistently with the principles of the church. the
remedies spiritual and temporal for all concerned That
was precisely what they had been about aud he could
not admit the assertion Of the gentleman from New
York thsthey had forgotten the business before them
He propced now to say som thing Ia references to
two pons stated at the outset Of his remarks First
The cannical meaning Of the sentence of suspension
Hs learasd friend from Pennsylvanis, (Mr Whartop0
Who as night addressed the house had certainly reev
ed him rom great portion Of his labor this subject
and he could only that he adopted that part Of
remark psrbatim itcraftm ct fgursfim Vita regard
To the after of his remarks the relief to
the dioese he constrained TO disagree with him
Ne corcurred In the opinion that ancient canon had
nohna do with the subject The question was pure
ly A to The meaning Of their own American oanons;
while he admitted that his friends from Louisiana r
Hawks1 md New Jersey (Dr Ogilby) had displayed an
srudtiou the s~ which ght have grsced the
Doctors commons In England. He must beg leave to