The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-10-21
The Protestant Episcopal General Conven-
tion-House OF Delegates.
DAY

TWELFTH DAY.
Morning prayer was read by the Rev. Dr. Fordsof Ca
assisted in the by the Rev Mr. Moore, Of New
Hampshire
The minutes of yesterday read and approved,
when the Rev Dr. Croswel offered the following resou
tom
Resolved the House Of Bishops concurrng, that this
convention will adjourn die Friday at IL O'Clock
The Rev Dr. WEEKS moved to lay 1t on the table for
the present. 1t early to talk Of that matter
The motion to lay the table prevailing by small
majority
The Rev DR.. BnoorE, from the committee the
finished business, then submitted report showing the
business remaining on hand from the last convention,
which was read by the secretary.
The COMMITTEES on Elections reported the names Of
certain members who had ssked leave OF absence in
favor of the request some that of
Inc report was accepted.
Rev. DR.. HAWKS then renewed the resolution which
OF being slightly modified SO as to read as fol-
Resolved That the Secretary be directed to prepare
the oanonioa testimonial required to be signed by this
be laid the table, and this house be called on by do
ceses to sign the same
After much debate the resolution was lost by the fol.
Ayss-Of the clergy IL; the iaity, 7. Noes-of tn.
clergy ls Of the aity, TO- Dividsd-of the clergy l.
A message was received from the House of Bishops,
stating that they receds from their resolution,
for the next general convention and will concur with
House Of Delegates in appointiong Cincinnati that
place
Mr. VAN IScEs to protest against the introduc-
ton Of such questions had been brought before the
bishop stood before Them with him they had to do Let
them lay the subject the table but again let
them indulge in such hesrrending debate as this had
BEEN Let the question before them be put and then to
settle the matter he would beg Of them to vote upon
sign these memorials. He would rather some one else
would present such resolution; but for the purpose Of
terminating the debate he would beg leave to present
Mr. Harry J. BoDLEr,. of Kentucky, called upon the
friend Of the bishop elect He had lived his
roof In his own family and to know him was to love
him. =
DR.. oaILnr, with opposition by the house,
to speak He had before maintained that the diocese
had discharged their duty the case and that the
whole responsibility of action rested upon this house
The question now before the house entirely diff
fsrent from that which had been decided by their vote
yesterday 1t the house ready to proceed to
sign the testimonials in favor Of the conservation Of the
bishop elect OF the diocese Of Illinois? On this question:
he had not committed himself He regretted deeply that
he repel the insinuatons of the learned gentle
man from Maryland, that his arguments were astute
ton before them He felt bound to declare af
ter inquiry the subject of parties preudioed favor
evidences Of his qualification, in point of learning He
might be we'll qualified for parochal duties-he was I'M
douetedly pious man-bnt every man VINO was quail
charge of diocese Entertaining this view, he could
net sign his name to the testimonials.
the table.
After some conversation the point Of order,
The CHAIR was about to put the vote, whom the mo-
Mr. HUorn, Of South Carolina, then rose and ad-
dressed the house The gentlemen going to make
him judge 1t was true he had been q judge in his
but ne had no 70
bility of assuming such character was terrible The
house calling upon him to judge Of one Of the most
horrible questions presented OF bribery and
ton He called upon to decide whether the Con-
vsntion Of Illinois had been guilty Of bribery and sorrup
kolv Av1nh tOA do Ha han
just as good right decide that this General Convsn.
ton guilty of bribery and corruption as to decide
had put the proper question to house-would they,
or would they not sign the testimonials They mad no
thing to do wi question whether tho bishop was or
was not, to- I'D to perform bis duties This was a
question for bishop himself and the diocese to de-
eide Furher the doctrine was quite new to him that
election to the upper house Why, the House OF
Bishops had the same right that the House OF
qualifications of their own members Did this house
consult House of Bishops when they were deciding
who qualified to take seats thsre' This house was
perfectly competent to decide who should take seats
here the House Of Bishops competent to decide
should take seats there. The members of the one
the judges of the other but the
house might ask for information from the other The
present Tnsy shsy Know
thing against the election of this member They
good or bad one. They didn't ask whether
the bishop was old or young; but what were the
Let the house decide the question and every member
would abide that d. csoa The house had decided that
be MIR had a seat that floor against any rsstc.
tions He believed they would sorry for it laugh
With regard to the Of the assistant bishop the
cision Of the house would be nna they should DE-
certificate he could not do it. But let them not say to
him, you to judge Of the election" Now he would
revert to the position which he entertained The gen.
tleman from Jersey had put the subject the pro-
per footing. No conscientious man could sgn the GER
tiHcate If he believed that the proposed was not
qualified uy learning and morality the station He
agreed with him that the highest moral qualifications
necessary. He ehuddered at the Idea OF making
bishop Of q not possessing the requisite sttr
butes.
Dr. OerLBY desired to make explanation. He wat
afraid that msapprshenson might go abroad as to the
import of his remarks He was afraid from the refer
the gentleman that it might be inferred that he
spoke Of the moral purity Of the bishop elect He spoke
not of his moral but Of his intellectual qualifications
Mr. HuoEh apologizsd for the Misrepresentation. He
immortality or irreligon to the gentleman but he did
understand him to say that he was not man Of SUN
grasp the duties Of his Office And let him say thai
this was the only consideration throughout the whole
discussion which had any elect On ms hn
tleman from New Jersey said he had not learning
enough. Other gentlemen said he had Where wa
Dr. OoILLr disclaimed all expression Of the opinion.
of Others He simply stated his own opinion. He had
acted conscentiously for himself
MIR HuoER-Wsll, I must act oonscientiously fol
myself
MIR HAaEn-The gentleman must be DESTROYS that al
the members should be satisfied also He begged of him
produce the evidence Of the incompetency OF the
bishop elect, II he had any
A MIR Huser resumed his seat the call for the quss-
tion was renewed from all pats Of the house. mem
from Ohio called for the vote by diocsse and 1t wat
80 put The result follows -
, Ayss-Of the clergy, II the laity T. Noes-of thu
clergy, Is Of the laity, TO- Divided-Of the clergy
Of the laity, g.
So the motion prepare the testimonials for the sis
natures Of the house lost
DR. OonBY said that, II in order, he would offer thu
following resolutions and that they be rferred
| the committee csnons.
Resolved That It DO referred to the COMMITTEES on
inquire into and report on the expedienoy OF
peanR canon of 1892 entitled or Assistant Bishops
and In they decide that 1t Ia nexpedent to
the same that they report such amendments as they
may deem proper.
| Resolved That It be referred to the committee or
canons to consider and report upon the OF
altering or amending I'd and 9Th Of 1882 that the
testimonials the bishop elect shall in al be SUB
Of