The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-10-16
The PaxsrDrsr then enqulred Of the gentleman the

he would state the object Of them was that when BIZ
lawful for the diocese over which he exercised jurisdo
ton to choose another bishop who should the
power to ths suspended bishop had resign cd his
Jurisdiction The resolution to the following effect
bishop OF this church, who has for an
time may be restored by the House OF Bishops
majority consenting thereto but before he shall
authority to exercise Jurisdiction any diocese over
which he had jurisdiction before he shall pre-
sent certificate signed by majority Of the diocesan
convention to the following effect viz request to the
House of Bishops, to restore to his diocese q
Disnop VINO has been suspended for unlimited time
and also testifyng to his good conduct &C. but If the
convention Of said diocese shall have chosen bishop
then the restored bishop shall not have Jurisdiction
him This proposed canon, Mr. Williams remarked,
goes on the principle, that suspension is not a
bishop to present such testimony for his as
he had to present at his ordination would IN enton
this particular the form In which It drawn
up, or the principles set forth in IT. bat know that
their bishop being suspended that they have right to
elect another bishop thought that something Of the
ton of the house might called to that question as
wei a. to the other and therefore, to have it
Judge CHAMsEas-Ths gentleman from Virginia mis-
xcsS tne onsct OF my remarks did not intend to
bssa before the and ~sa de- ne
Dated at length The question before the house
the order Of the day for Monday next But let take
vote on 1t.
Mr. WILLIAMs-IfI did not refer to 1t now, could not
do so after the vote TAKEN because there would
| no subject before the house.
MT CH.MbERs-Permit me to say that you are not
Mr.. WILLAMs-I care not what form is adopted
simply want the proposition laid before the house.
gentleman offer his resolutions?
Mr. WILLIAMS said he offered it a substitute.
Judge CHAMsERs-Don't offer 1t q substitute
Mr. WILLIAMs-Well, all want Is, that the principles
embraced in the resolutions may be laid before the
house
Mr.; McGurnE said Judge Chambers made one remark
wnish might convey an impression different from that
cple embraced in the proposition Of Mr. Williams was
discussed in the committee room and then abandoned
Judge CHAMBERs-I only meant to say that it was dis
cused and withdrawn by the gentleman who proposed
Mr.. McGUIRE-The principle entertained by
others as well and no entertaining 1t abandoned it.
Rev: Mr.. VAN IscEs remarked that as one Of the
did abandon the principle.
member inquired il it was in order to discuss what
transpired In the committee room.
Dr. VAN lNGEN-No. But wish to remove q wrong
impression II 1t has been formed.
ME- MCFARLAND thought 1t wrong to discuss matters
which took place in the committee room and hoped the
chair would stop all further discussion.
The President said the remarks explanatory and
matter
DR. VAN lNGEn begged to remind the ger tlemau from
Virginia that he did not transcend the rules OF the
house In explaining away an impression which might
D tS ,ne 90 bons
has INDUCED the member from Maryland in making
full statement OF the transactions In the committee
room We have listened to him with great patience
and to all his reasons and to his paternal ad
| vice, and think 1t the committee when
statements made which calculated place them
in false position that the house is bound in courtesy
to listen to an explanation. hope the gentleman from
virginia WILL therefore, be heard fully the gentle
man from Maryland was in regard to transactions in
the committee room, and the principles which the
report made.
The PRESIDENT said, he Of opinion gentlemen did
have an opportunity Of explaining all they wished to lay
Mr.. MoGuIRE said, he had another remark to make,
but he did not wish to II He only wanted to
say that the members OF the committee there reserved
|
best to forward the end attained the una
nimous opinion Of the committee concerned all
thought the plan recommended by the gentleman from
| Virginia was the best
Mr.. KELLY would say that the conservation of the as
stant Bishop Of Illinois appointed to take place
Monday by the special order Of the house. and
Mr.. HAwKs-lt makes difference, for the house can
| take up any order it pleases.
Some debate of running character, the proprety
OF taking the question on the substitute offered by Mr.
Williams took place when that gentleman withdrew it.
The resolution offered by Judge Chambers that the
that it be made the special order of day for Monday
next, WAS then submitted and carried.
| Alr WILLIAMS then offered his resolution indie
pendent enc from that just acted upon The question
was taken and that, too was ordered to be printed
Rev. RICHARD Mason moved that the committee
be instructed to inquire into report
Of altering tho second section Of the Of
Rev DR. HAWKS desired to ask leave Of the house that
the Rev Nh Cummings, of Michigan, might absent him
Mr. CUMMINGS said that IL Is three weeks since he left
home, and no wished to return possible. Ur-
gent attracted him home not the least Of which
Is that his church is vacant and will remain till he
returns.
Rev. Mr.. FoRsK, moved that all such applications be
hereafter referred to the committee elections.
The PREsIDENT-After this
Rev. Mr.; MEAD wished to know whether the commit
tee would have the power to grant leave of absence
PREsIDEnr-No; they could only report
Mr. Cummings, by vote Of the house, granted
leave to 90 home
Mr. PAIGE got up and referred the convention to canon
OF 1884, and said he wished referred to the
with instructions to amend 1t In the third line
make 1t read -
when bishop Of a diocese Is unable. by reason Of
old age or other permanent cause Of inarmity to die
charge his Episcopal duties assistant bishop may
be elected by aud for the said diocese who shall be
mated by one and elected another and who
shall in all cases succeed the bishop in Of surviving
him The assistant bishop shall perform such Episco
pal duties and exercise such Episcopal authority In the
diocese az the bishop shall assign to him. and in Of
the bishops inability assign such blythe
convention Of assistant bishop shall during
Which sppsrtan to the os Of Bishop
person shall be elected or consecrated suagan bishop
nor shall there b. more than assistant bishop in do
the same time.n
The object Of the alteration was he said the promo
ton Of good order and general satisfaction In the church
An invitation from the directors ofthe Deaf and Dumb
Institution to visit that establishment at any time the
| members may fit, read.
| A MEMBER moved that the invitation be accepted,
and in order to do so, that the house adjourn
Rev DR. HAWKS hoped the motion to adjourn would
| not be pressed
MEMBER said II the convention remained any
longer in session without special business before IT,
there would be some additional referred the
committee-more than could be attended to.
DE- HAWKS replied that If canons referred to that
committee which they think ought not TO be altered the
committee will simply report that 1t is not expedent TO
alter them AS regards the invitation II Is due to the
gentlemen who sent 1t to accept and some Of the
members may wish to visit that institution, which he
could sey excellent he would suggest that
saturday be the day designated rs the time ut which
they are willing to accept tho Inequalities rendered
| to them
| A MEMBER-Say II O'Clock.
DR. HAWKS willing to adjust the difference by say
| ing o clock.
| The motion to accept and to adjourn tomorrow at
o'clock, visit the institution was then put and
carried.
motion was made the matter Of the election OF
the assistant bishop Of Illinois be made the order for
this day, carried
| A MrNpyR asked II there was not communication
from the House of Bishops before this house to the eff
feet that they had passed resolution to hold the
General Convention in Philadelphia and being in