New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1847-05-22
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sAssacintIen Discussed.1

The last article, as stipulated Of the Discussion,
appeared in the Courier Of Thursday, and was
promptly, though at much Inconvenience trans
feryed 10 our columns Of the next morning. We
shall Of course make no reply 70 it. yet we cannot
refrain from few remarks on the general conduct
Of the controversy.
When we stated, in offering to discuss toe mat
ter through the two papers, that we bad no room
for such Discussion then, bat would make room e.
ter the pending Election, naming one column as the
extern, of our first article, we did not deem IT ne
eessary TO bind our opponent to keep his articles
within that or some reasonable limit We thought
indeed it was understood and agreed that the col
umn specified should be the general measure OF all
the articles. and that our antagonist would feel
honnd bv common courtesy and a respect for the
n,blie instructive love OF fair play to restrict him
sslf within something like the space occupied BY
onr articles. We were mistaken. His very first
article was made more than twice as long as that
to which it protested to be reply. We were OF
course compelled greatly to extend our succeeding
article In order to review the positions taken In hrs,
bu, we simultaneously protested against the neces'
atty as unfairly imposed aud exceedingly incon-
vepiept and demanded that the articles should be
kent within the length we bad originally suggested.
Our courteous opponent denied that there was any
understanding on this point, insisted on his right
70 make bis articles as long he pleased, and on
our obligation TO publish them, no matter whether
orr paper wcod bold them or not Accordingly,
he has written longer and longer consulting simply
his own pleasure in the premises, until bis last to
which we are allowed no reply at least in his col
umns is expanded TO the length OF our longest t'eo
and about the aggregate length OF three OF our arti
cles OF the whole space covered by the contro-
versy in the uniform type OF the Harpers pamph'
let edition, (now 10 press the Courier occupies
nearly or quite four sevenths, The Tribune three
There are those who will consider this exceed
insy clever on the part of our astute antagonist
and who will adudge that he has sustained the
cause Of Society 1t Is with rare adroituess and
efficiency.
With regard to the subject and scope Of this
Discussion, every candid reader will decide that
we have proposed and commended one thing, while
the Courier has attacked and opposed another.
Who is responsible for the discrepancy We
though, we had been sufh cienty guarded and pre-
else at the outset to close every avenue for escape
into the field of general oray against every notion
of every body who may have criticised or con
demned our present Social System, no matter how
ager or INSCRIPTIONS our opponent. In our very
6rst paragraph, declining the Courier's proaer to
publish a controversy on Social questions between
that paper and M. A. Brisbane, but offering in
stead 20 discuss with the Courier ourse certain
specified conditions we stipulated as one Of those
tina, the topic Of controversy should be association
a, VIZ understand it, and not as II as understood by
Others" To this the Courier demurred. see its
issue of Sept eth last, or page OF the forthcoming
pamphlet) requiring that the subject Of contro
vepy should be
sA.socisou as Il fs-,hst is, as Il IL defined ia toe
writings of Fourier, Brisbane, Godwio, the Roxbury
sommupity. The Tribune and the other advocates aud
apostles Of the cause
This we at once See Tribune Of Sept. lo,) de-
chned. saying
We certainly cannot End room FOR discussion In
which IL implied that 10 6ssld -.sponsibe t-
aserer tie Cosriv may ad m theSol1ntnoas rrifir
Of sozsx p,ys0Hs sevcrs Of them oisserseiog
tain points with each other and At least Fovrier) Ia
a. Later expressly woss snb I a obrt 81
our holding responsible for all that has been advanced
Social topics by the Express Observer and Others
who have written In favor ot the existing order d
things To bring the discussion within the space
can saord w. the rule hsve proposed of ienR9 .ae
psy SPEAK jJ h's.f and BE- rssPonssbe only for pAa; n
propgssds. appears To US Tn be Indispensable
Here the matter rested for two months until the
Courier, Nov. lo,) called it up. asking US to pro
eeed with the proposed discussion of the prsRei
plss ard plans Of the Ass0clati0nists." We agar
appraised our eager antagonist that this was not th,
question we had proposed to discuss, and could no
be substituted for il, going over the whole GROUND
already taken. and reaarming our positions. TC
this the Courier. Nov. l4.) responded as follows
I'VE submit TO the judsmen, Of our read
ers whether his not shus ng evasion of proposor
and promiss deliberately and carefully msde BY The
Tribune tseh The editor OF that payer knows that
made proposition. but only called upon him TO ful
a hts own HIS assertion that We rasdtiais eeners
for.y on everything and -voryb body who consi
der Soci. Retvrn desirable unfound II Is i'm
pertinent We agreed TO discuss Association
upoe The Trbuues own terms. because We believed 4
20 be important subject iov0vins principles OF vita
Interest TO society calling ir the investss CATION 81
those through The public press 10 INSTRUCT
ARD guide the puolic mind
To this we replied. Nov. l6l
The Courier and Epquirer surely csunot expect %
70 multiply words about plain that of eui
proPos-d controversy OOr origipsl offer wss to dis
cuss Association as Hsesrstapd q" and referred
10 article " Sept Let last simply show what thai
To- a0d that there 10 aouodsnt room for discus
tween US Bu; tasts rtsh 70 lae dOsrr slYr
rsposons aad De acid naala tkose yropost,iou.
asd nons ok We seek not 10 hold The Courier res
sD for any body ideas statements but its owp and
es ell b eoael9dsdb rs9sd dtssd ro4s os sGan
ear ess u the Courier scevdes 10 this ubrsseryedy we
win directly open tbs diseussson not This our
fourth sad sst time Of making the offer each time
dsanitely now.
.rne Courier 10 too well acquainted with our views
end convictions to spprehend that shall broadly
prvseps and maintain Association IL only fesrs that
shvn not ssord preext for dragging IN Whatever be
aide IL deems calculated increase the general prejudice
against or grsy the current hatred OF the advocates OF
Social Reform To discuss the principles snd plans
the Associaonst which II seeks 20 substitute for the
question We have uniformly proposed. would be like
agreeing 10 dscus 1.-The characters and objects Of the
pubic lecturers Animal Magnetism rhese Last
uiaht be ever Indifferent without affecting the verty
sud importance of the phenomena termed Aninsl Mss
n.ti.m But we what Ia the true topic and saaa
diseHss shs or NotisaS."
To which NOV. III thus saith the Courier
I'VE believe The Tribune has made this offer three
tnes before and uit had exhibited tenth part OF the
readiness 10 tEA its engagements which II has shown
In MASKING them the discussion would long this have
been under wsy. Meantime. call the Toe Tribune's
attention sgsin 70 the following from paper Of
urdsy which We desire TO be understood a. now repeat
ing;
1--WE agreed to discuss the Association rpoS
THE TnipUSxs OWN TKss bee.use we believe IL 10 be
important subject involvng principles OF vital inter
sst ~ society," and calling for the OF those
who sssun~ Through the public press 70 instruct and
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