The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-12-22


Mr. DICKINSON moved that his resolutions be taken
questions involved and the great diversity Of opinion
upon them though that deliberate course OF action
was required. We had two sets OF resolutions now De
fore the Senate; We might have dozen more. This
was just the beginning. With view, therefore, 10
deliberate aud regular OF action on these great
national questions he would move that the resolutions
before the Senate be referred to the committee on O.
Sir CALHouN trusted the course indicated by the
Senator from Ohio would not be pursued NO reference
sity Of Mexico shall or Shall not be- destroyed It was
but that single point that had to be considered
This matter had been already carried far
beyond strict parames tary usage There need to be
fear OF other resolutions as apprehended There
were but two resolutions and they certainly dis
tinct There need not be long debate The propo-
siion which he contemplated had never before been
presented II was highly important one. He did not
know that the policy being pursued toward Mexico
would end in her extinctionhe did not know that
intended-he hoped that it not intended. But
there was danger and his object to guard against
that He hoped the resolutions would not be referred
Mr. ALLEN did not wish to deprive the senator OF his
rights, nor OF the exercise OF them He commended,
for the propriety referring the resolutions
to the Committee on Foreign Relations as all great
questions of this character had heretofore been
ferred We at the beginning OF the session, and
there would be an abundance of time. On the main
point Mr. Allen still understood the from South
Carolina to say that territorial indemnity and the alb
sorpton of the whole OF Mexico would lead to the
result do not think that TO take territorial pdem
nifty is to destroy Mexico The senator from South
Carolina As understand him, thinks differently. His
thoughts matured and will receive great considers
ton tits therefore, proper that time should be given to
determine whether these two propositions identical
Mr.. CALHOUN desired to correct the Senator from
Ohio The two propositions were by means identical
The question of the humiliation of Mexico by the
tnguishment of her nationality, and the question of ter
ritorih indemnity, are not the same. do not touch
now this question at all We may take parts and very
large parts Mexico, and still touch her nationality
lie had not altered single opinion in this relation at all
He hoped that would satisfy the Senator The Senator's
motion to refer TO the Committee Foreign Relations,
would be that with their report debate would follow,
on which they would be heard before himself Was that
falrl Why refer them His resolutions had nothing
whatever to do with the question of slavery.
- Mr. ALLEN We have no committee on slavery in the
Senate
Mr.. CALHoUN-We have committee slavery in
the Senate have however committees competent to
reach the question But ask II the motion of the
senator OF Ohio to refer these resolutions and to antic
pate my object, is fair!
Mr.. SEvrER.-I hope the Senator from Ohio will with
draw his motion. As a member of the Committee on
Carolina that his resolutions should be referred is
sufficient hope the Senator from Ohio will withdraw
his motion.
force his will the Senate At the suggesto of the
chairman Foreign Relations he would withdraw his
motion to refer. lie would take this occasion to say
that he gratfed with the explanation of the Sena
tor from South Carolina lie (Mr Al had understood
him to himself to the effect that territorial in
dsmnty, and the absorption of the whole of Mexico,
were in the Interior consequence identical With the
FIRST resolution, he would find few to differ with him.
with the second form of the resolution there could be
obeetionf did not cut off indemnity for our losses
in the way Of land
As understood the first Tuesday in January next was
agreed upon the day for the opening of the discussion
npon Mr. Calhoun's resolutions.
MIR. DIcEINsoN's RESOLUTIONS.
a Mr. DICKINSON moved to make his resolutions the
special order for this day two weeks at O'Clock T. M
la good deal OF conversation among Senators
New York
Mr.. DIcKINsoN-I do not hear the Senator.
Mr.. BgRRiEN inquired If the motion OF the Senator
From New York would anticipate the object of the
Senator from South Carolina!
Mr.. DICKINSON said it would not anticipate him
His resolutions offered first and therefore wish
ed.to give them their precedence in the discussion.
r I'm M tha mi 0f tha
two Senators were antagonstic the best thing that
could be done would be to take them up together
Meantime there troops to be raised and he hoped
these resolutions would not interfere with the Army
bill
After some discussion between Mr. Calhoun and Mr.
Dickinson on the question of precedence,
Mr. DroKINsoN commended for the priority Of his
lutions and his right 10 discuss them before they
superseded embarrassed by other propositions
Mr. Cas- said that the suggestion Of the Senator from
discussion ought not interfere with business
the Senate With all respect to the opinions of the
Senator from South Carolina, he r Cass did not
the practical Importance of his resolutions No man in
the United States in favor of the extnguishment of
the Mexican Republic; and it would BIO Of the
srangss proceedings in the world for the Senate to give
negative vote upon the subject Of our intentions to-
wards Mexico.
Mr. CALHOUN was glad to think that the extinction
Of Mexico not contemplated by any man. But we
could scarcely take up in which the proposition
not spoken Of 1t but the other day that din
given to Of the volunteer officers in Ohio (Col
Morgan of Columbus He went distinctly for it. and the
proposition applauded by the meeting, and
to the end What he contemplated was to arrest by
these resolutions contingency that might occur.
Look how got into this 1t said there
not the slightest danger of when
troops were marched down to the Rio Grande.
What next ? The object of the to con-
quer peace Now that is dropped Now the object is
vigorous prosecution of the and the question is
not what is intended but what lie to come! This makes
it practical question The Senate is sound upon
this question and this is the time to test it. 1t
ton ofwar We rot into it by recognition and not by
declaration. Mr. Calhoun commended that the decision
Msxco would be of practical value to the action of the
Senate in reinforcing the They would know then
what force to raise lie hoped to have the question de-
bated and voted upon he believed its effects would be
salutary and beneficial
Mr. CAss maintained that the origin of the war and
the object Of the we'll known The object, with
all the sport upon the term to conquer peace; and
the President had told that the should be prose-
cuted till Mexico humbled into peace. But what
would agree to yesterday might not accept to-
day. The Senator says, that at public meeting in
Ohio, it was declared that Mexico must be annexed
by somebody the Island of CUBA but Sena-
tor got up here and offered resolution to it.
Several VoIcEs-Oh, yes, they did
Mr. CAss continued in exposition of his views that
there no idea entertained of the absorption Of Mex
leo.
Mr. NILES was Of opinion that the resolutions of the
the Senator from New York distractions and that
though the Senator from South Carolina from his pecu
liar Of mind rather fond Of distractions
there intimate connexion between his resolu-
hous and the legislation required in regard to
amped relations with Mexico, that gave them great i'm
Iortanoe. However, the war commenced and we
must sustain the national character and the national
honor-we have got into it, and must finish it, Mr.
Niles then went to argue that there great danger
Of the very result apprehended by the Senator from
South Carolina. The annexation of the whole of Next
evidently the sentiment of the army He was
not for retreang from this yet he blind
az not 20 that every step took but increased the
fhcues around US. He had read the proceedings Of
the meeting referred to by the Senator from South Caro-
lima and he had read them with profound regret When
we hear such sentiments from such sources how can we
make peace short OF the result demanded This senti-
ment OF the annexation Of all Mexico was taking hold
w INA
these propositions and act upon them in of the
measures for the further prosecution Of the He
for indemnites for the prosecution of the but
peace cannot be obtained in that way short of the
result foreshadowed what we to do Are to go
on or are to fall back upon the plan Of the Senator
OF South Carolina at the last session What
must be the eonseanencas. IL we go hunting down