Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1847-03-06

eminent than all the sections in the bill would raise and he
insisted that it Just important money as it was
| raise il. -.E..s
TelIers demanded and ordered on the appeal
The CHAIRMAN stated his ground Of decision to be, that
this was bill for raising revenue, whereas the amendment
Mr.. SCHENCK. The old proverb says penny saved is
two-pence earned.
/ Mr.. THURMAN spoke in support Of the decision Of the
Chair exactly the ground stated by the Chairman
but another, forcibe. This not general bill
raise revenue but bill limited to the increase of duties
imports and for the graduation of the price OF the public lands
It was limited bimed to those two ohjecs-the amend
ment subject wholly different though its effect
i might be virtually to increase the revenue
The CHAIR now stated, additional ground of irrele
vancy the amendment that it provision regulate
the salaries of the officers of Government and Of order on
4 that account also.
Mr.. HOPKINS said it not provision to regulate sa-
ares but to tax salaries he thought quite much in
order 10 tax salaries as land.
| Mr. THURMAN insisted on his former objection this
was limited bill and the amendment foreign to it.
| Mr.. HOPKINS commended that to revenue vir-
tuay to raise He hoped the decision of the Chair
would be reversed
Mr. GENTRY observed that, whatever might be the opn-
ion of the committee the merits of the amendment
was certainly in order. 1t geiman the bill it looked
to the object and would have the effect This
was bill which went put into the Treasury for the
purpose OF carrying the the amendment keep
revenue in the Treasury to carry the And had
been calculated sufficient data that operation would be
to keep more money the hands of the Government than
would be brought into them by all the provisions of the bill
II was perfectly relevant and strictly in order.
had been objected to it that proposition to egu
late the salaries of officers of Government be If
were why not well regulate salaries Of officers regulate
the price OF the public lands 1t surely had much do
with revenue bill graduation had
Mr. COBB sand that. however willing he might be go
for the object proposed by the amendment Of the gentleman
from Tennessee Mr CocKE he vote against the APP
peal he had taken That it would money from going
out OF the Treasury show in order
bill. To repeal bills which had been passed to
and yet would an amendment for such purpose be in order
On the ground, it would be in order
III this bill repeating the lighthouse bill and the harhor bill
He thought the decision Of the Chair very correct This
bill to raise revenue not 10 regulate salaries Mr. c.
willing to tax the pay OF members OF Congress and other Off
proper time. But the object of the amendment
sufficiently apparent It had been brought forward to prevent
action the bl-to defeat the BILL He hoped the House
would meet the question honestly, boldly fearessy If Con-
gess going the people for the support Of this
let the bill be voted down. and let the country who
they that disposed skuk from meeting the
sponsiby of supporting the Government when engaged in
Just and necessary
Mr. HOPKINS said that he skulked from no responsibility
which pertaied to the discharge of mis- public duty He
entirely willing to vote for upon and coffee he
willing to tax the public lands and he willing also
salaries.
The gentleman from Georgia (Mr Conn had said that h,
ready tax the pay Of member-but be done
the proper time That tme which never would arrive
The attempt had often been made but it had proved Il
be the proper time and the thing could be DONE
there was skdhing any Nncc, was In taxing the
members Of Congress That and never
would be in order He thought there could be
appropriate nine adopt such than in time Of
This amendment did touch the smaller incumbent but
those officers only whose salaries exceeded thousand dol
lars and these persons able 20 bear it. II
strictly appropriate in their case because Government put them
in possession of the money out of which the to be
paid Mr. H. denied that he had any desire skunk
imposing upon and coffee He had voted for that
heretofore ready now and should be ready
at all times when was needed and he equally ready
salaries. The proposed be deducted from the
salaries Of the wepad officers Of Government would produce
large increase Of An amendment proposing that
increase strictly in order bill Mr.. H. saiu
he had skued from his duty, and should not begin
now This the proper time for such measure and the
proper Of accomplishing it Mr. H however,
ready to vote this bill in almost any fom-wh this amend
ment, whoutt. He bad purpose Of embarrassing the
action Of the House.
propiety of raising in way the other, by put
ting money into the Treasury by keeping in when it
there The only question was, whether such amend
that proposed TO this bill relevant enough 10
be in order The Chair ruled that Mr. X. thought
il His colleague MIR. THuRMAN had contcnded that
this bill limited to two specific modes Of raising revenues
to wit by increasing duties imports and lay reducing the
price of the public lands very ruethat the Committee
of Ways and Means in reporting BILL had proposed those
two proper modes of raising and the argument
was that therefore Committee of the Whole House the
Of the Union must not inch beyond the line mark
ed out by Of the standing commitees This linn
tied BILL and therefore, this be limited committee
Indeed II really seemed il members here did not
regard any thing connected with the be in
der that had received the sanction Of the Committee of
WAYS and Means. The Committee Of Ways and Means had
not recommended il therefore il out Of order That
was the argument and the whole argument The Commit
tee Ways aud Means could suggest for the benefit Of the
revenue whatever pleased, but Committee Of the Whole
House Of Representatives might no-mus He supposed
If the Committee of Ways and Means had been pleased
port upon ofceholders, oh, then would be quite in
order for this committee agree it, To see the fuy of
that
But the gentleman from Georgia had exhorted them meet
their duty y and boldly and he contended that the House
had much right to increase the v reraalnu h
Tor private claimants lay tax upon salaries TO elect The
same object Well that, to be sure, going il strong
The reason urged against all additions to the appropriation
bills that needed all the money for the II any
gentleman dared to ask little money build lighthouse
to improve harbor, he had the Committee Of Ways and
Means down upon him in a twinklng they needed all the
money TO XIII Mexfcans, and could 10 the
lives OF citizens. And this was good reason in
higher place One ground which the President had vetoed
the river and harbor bill that the money needed for
the war And for this same end he asked upon
tea and coffee This amendment proposed take the
the shoulders OF the people, and put those the office
holders and surely they ought be any body should
All but this amendment was TO revenue and the bill
TO raise the amendment could not be in order
That was drawing very fne No let the war makers pay
for the
Mr. KENNEDY. thought il was the President that made
the ....
Mr.. ROOT. Well this amendment would help him with
the means to pay But Mr. r. had another why he
wished the amendment TO prevail II they made the interest
OF the officers Of the Government who now conducted the war
to put stop to the war; should very speedily get peace
Gentlemen proessed to be very DESTROYS OF this in fact thew
were fighting for nothing else Well adopt this amendments
tax these ocehodes long as the war should continue
and il would end in sixty days "a yoice But this il