The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-10-03

tutn that IN the COnkttuti0n1I cOnVenti0n Among
ablest men, and the most distinguished debatsrs
John Van Buren,. George Rathbun J. r. Deottle, C. c.
Cambreling X w. Peckhsm, Martin Grover, +. q. Lap
nam Preston King, J. T. Brady, George =. Barker IRE
signsd), &c &c.
MORNING SESSION.
.1. SYRACUSE, October l.
The convention assembled at nine O'Clock this morn
ing and was called to order by the president.
On motion OF Mr. srRyKrR the reading of the minutes
OF Yesterday was omitted t.
Then the convention resumed the consideration of the
case contested between Messrs Vache and
york The floor having been conceded to Mr. Casser-
~ the radical contestant for the seat that gentleman
evidence both sides recapituaon OF the facts CON
neced with the proceedings OF the nominating conven
ons when they are not invested with interest would be-
dsncs .dduoed BY the contestants During the remarks
little, who desired to ask Mr.. c. question. ''
The PREsIpEST said that Mr. Doolittle was not In
order Such Interruptions the President observed had
tolerated.
Mr. VAN buren, enquired of the President II he claim.
or his friends?
The President replied negatively.
ME- BRADY suggested that IL 1t were not
with the views Of the chair he hoped the question would
90 pun lie presumed the chair was influenced by the
and which the gentleman from Albany u. Van Buren)
objected to ~ an unauthorized duet.
Mr. j. VAN buren, called MIR Brady to order Mr.
Van Buren, said the gentleman speaking to the
question.
MI HATHBvN said that II the gentleman who had the
not interfere It was ut the option Of the gentlemen
speaking to reply or not.
The PREspEsr persisted in declaring Mr. Doolittle to
Mr. HUNTER, Of Westchester, appealed from the deci-
sion Of the chair.
Mr.. J. VAN buren, demanded the ayes and noes.
Mr. PEcKHAM hoped Mr. Doolittls would be allowed to
question the gentleman, with his assent
Mr.. ). VAN buren, called Mr.. Peckham to order.
The PRESIDENT sustained MIR. Van Burens last point
u order.
President in violation of parliamentary rules as
cognized all over the world.
The PREsDENr adhered to his decision; the question
Mr. DooLrrrLE disclaimed, and waved his right to
question the speaker (Mr. .Casssrly.)
At this point Mr. J. Van Buren, observed to ap-
proach Mr. Doolitte and whisper in his ear, when Mr.
Doolitte asked Mr.. Casserly II he would permit him
(Mr D. to ask him (Nlr. CO. = question.
IMr. CAssERLY replied yes.
Mr.. DooLITrLE was about to put question when he
was interrupted by tho President, declared to
Several gentlemen and asserted In terms that the
decision OF the President was gross violation Of right
and Of parliamentary law
The PRECEDENT then appealed to the experienced
In the convention for advice to the he should
adopt He observed that he unscquanted with par
liapentary rules
My RATHBuN, Of Cayuga, observed to the President,
In reply, that 1t was customary in legislative bodies
when gentleman desired to interrupt the person occu.
plying the floor to address himself trst to the Chair
hen 1t was the duty Of the Chair person
cupyng the floor IL he was willing to his right
&c to be made II he was willing to waive his right
then the President had power to prevent the sxPs
Messrs Grain and Seymour, formerly Speakers Of the
Assembly called for by the President bat thes,
Aiessrs CAMpRELENe and CRAMea concurred In Mr.
Rathbuns exposition Of parliamentary law applicable t.
this
The President then Observed that it being evidently
the Judgment OF the convention that he In error
would abandon the position he had assumed, and allow
gentlemen to put questions other gentlemen occupy
lug tue uO0r with their assent.
MIR DooLIrrLE then put his question to Mr. Casssrly.
The last named gentleman continued ut great length
when having made some illusions TO this he
was interrupted by Mr. Brady OF New York who called
him 70 order Is casting imputatons upon the previous
lorated
ThePas.prsr sustained the point Of order raised by
Mr.. Brady.
Mr.. J. VAN buren, appealed from the decision of the
President.
Mr.. C.ssEnLY made an explanation
MIR. BRADY withdrew his point of order.
Mr.. VAN BUREN, withdrew his appeal. Then the Pre-
sdent requested MIR, Casserly to proceed in order
Tns examination of this case WAS exceed ugly pro-
trscted in the discussion which occurred Me ,srs ogden
Mitchell and Brady severay participated. IL related
exclusively to tho evidence concerning the rgauzou
OF the ward meetings, and the election Of these
testauts.
MIR. BRADY during his remarks upon tbs case, com
plimented the boys Of the blood sixthn yer,
handsomely he had these little fellows attending
the ward meetings with the French flag sticking
half mast in consequence Of their decea Ied
he appauded their patriotic interest in the primary
meetings.
Mr. JOHN VAN buren, regretted the bias of the majo
rty which had indicated itself in favor Of the claims
ed he knew the inhrmity Of humsn nature but he
bly, hoped that these cases would be decided with
he that considerable excitement prevailed In the
public mind; aud they were well he, that
Of the which had been passed upon had
given entire satisfaction 1t not time by settling
these contested cases in way to n prsponde-
for the conservatives In this convention
nominations before the people of this state which would
repuRuant to their the
democratic party He believed therefore, that the
servatves would act wisely II they voted in these
several claimants. Mr.. Van Buren, then proceeded to
read thel afdavits sc relating to the case upon each
Of which he commented at length. .r
MIR. VAN buren, Was occasionally interrupted by one
Of the Vice Presidents, Harris, MIR Van Buren, AT
length remarked 10 the Vice President that he hoped he
did not wish him Wan BUREN, to supply his Harrss)
want of understanding
The Vice President disclamed any intention to draw
largely upon the mental resources Of Mr. Van Buren,.
Mr. VAN BUREN continued to dissect and skele
the evidence He said it appeared that Of the wit
nesses, (Layden police ofcer) upon the part OF the
conservatives, extremely drunk" when he made
affidavit connected with the Mr.. Van Buren, con
fessed that he not free from bias in this
in this case of Cassery against that
the election Of the latter gentleman a delegate wa
voidable; it was null, and 1t remained for this
ton, with full knowledge OF the fat consequence
which would follow any unfair dealing to say whether
he should be admitted to seat.
snary and complicated and ncomprehensible de
bate succeeded several delegates engaged at
and the time and the chances Of sketchipg 1t II
any way, extremely difficult
The question upon the resolution OF the committee
admit MI Vache, (the conservative contestant) to
seat, finally taken by ayes and The roll bein
called Messrs Purser and Thomas, Of New York. decn
ed to VOTE because there conflicting adavs
their friends and neighbors and they could not by
ing either way tacitiy avow that they believed
the witnesses had peTjured themselves.
The result OF the vote then announced by the
President when appeared that the reeoution Of tn,
COMMITTEES to admit Mr.. Vache carried by vote Of
In ma thttafh a gf fha
tives is firmly established. This important result hav
ing been attained the convention adjourned TIL
o'clock NJ in order to give the delegates an opportu-
nifty to aine.
In regard the nominations there various rumors,
Of which Ia that the radicals intend TO drop Nr
Flagg, and present other name Tor the once OF
Comptroller. Mr.. Hungerford Of Jefferson IL without
doubt the nominee of the conservative The conven-
ton has been session three days and not yet com
psted Its organization The contested cases from New
York with the exception Of have all been decided
One of the cases from Albany has been decided the
other Is pending.
am apprehensve that II the case now pending Is de-
oid.d against the radicals they will withdraw from the