The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-10-01

SECOND DAY.

morning prayers were read by Rev. Mr.. Morris, OF
Trinity School, and the lessons by the Rev Alexander
Leonard The minutes Of yesterdays session were
read and approved and number Of lay delegates
presented who did not attend the first day
The report Of the COMMITTEES who were appointed by
the convention Of ls45 and continued by the oonvsn
ton Of last year take into all existing
regulating and prescribing the qualifications
Quirsd in order become members Of this convention,
with Instructions TO prepare governing the
whole matter, II such should be deemed necessary"
by the Secretary to be ready and printed
copies thereof were distributed to the members.
s 20 SS m on
constitution, be amended rs to read thus -:
"Ths convention shall be composed Of the officiating
Presbyters who regularly admitted and settled In
church which shall have been in unisn with this
convention for at least three years. who employ
ed missionaries under the direction Of this
tom who engaged professors instructors OF
youth in college academy, general seminary Of
learning duly Incorporated and situate within this do
and of lay delegates, not exceeding three from
every sueh church to be chosen by the vestry by
holy orders shall be eligible lay delegate the
venton But minister, who vt the adoption Of this
article is entitled seat in the convention shall be
excluded thererom by reason Of the alteration Of the
former Sd article Of the constitution provided he CONT
the same parish with which he connected at
the adoption of this artice.D
The committee also recommend the following reso-
inserting after the words convention tself the words
upon evidence in accordance with the requirements OF
canon III. ~
And also that In lieu of canon H. ono be substituted,
the first section Of which makes the duty Of the Bsh
OPP Or In case Of his inability disability Of the stand
ing committee to submit to the next convention list Of
all the qualified presbyters OF the churchthe Of
their records to be taken presumptvs
evidence in favor Of those therein mentioned in dis
putes about seats.
Sec . Secretary of convention to include In such re-
cord all certificates to him in with
sec of canon xxx, Of the convention Of 1881 Evil
dence OF settlement In case Of dispute to consist In said
record
Sec Everv nnin;ste var thu diocaso IN nro
cure certificate of his admission
SEQ. 4. clergyman claiming right to sit, as mis-.
sonary, to certify his right Dy certificate from the
bishop a. in case, Sc, by certificate from the chair
man Of the missionary committee.
SEQ S. clergyman claiming the right by virtue
of his being professor in . college must produce Ger.
tcas from the president secretary Of such college
Sec Lay delegates sh. be chosen By yssrs BY
pose according to law The evidence of such election
to consist of certificate by the rector Of the church. in
and in the other Of certificate signed by the
persons who are required to certify the election Of ward
ems and vestrymen.
SEC VII. No lay delegate shall be entitled to seat
in the convention unless he be entitled to vote for
dens and vestrymon of the church which he il appoint
ed to represent.
At the bottom of the report certificate signed by
M Forbes stating that no accedes generally to the
report but would that the Sd article Of
constitution be made to Rad to give to all presby
in the convention. ..,
Mead In which he states that he sgrses to that part
Of the report regarding the alterations in the csuons
proposed MIGRATION
ton not only for the principles involved in the proposed
change but because other important points have not
been considered in the said amendment.
Mr. HARRISON moved that the rules Of order be sus-
pended that he might offer resolution that the pre-
sent trustees Of the Theological Seminary representing
this diocese and resident therein be continued in
and that the standing committee report the Of
other suitable to fill vacancies to be elected
nomination to the approaching General Convention.
An amendment was offered to 1t by Mr. Belts, of New
burgh but after little debate both laid upon the
| table
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their report from which learned that the following
named churches rporated since the con-
Church Of the Advent New York Church Of st Savior
Newtown; Trinity Church. Haverstraw Church Of the
HOLY Martyrs Es:e. county Church OF the Rs9rns-
county
The OF the clerical and lay delegates Of those
the delegates took their seats
The order of business suspended, and the report
OF the tandng committee Of the diocese for the year
1886 and lsa7, read by the Rev. NJ. Wainright-
Bishop Ives report, and Bishop Deancys Of their du
ties for the past year read.
The convention then proceeded to the election Of the
general convestion and Of the missionary committee
The te.rs having retired 1t was on motion resolved
that the trustees Of the fund for aged and urm clergy
When Messrs William Bard, Carrot G. Van Wsgenen
and Cyrus Curtiss were nominated and elected
next order was tn; report Of the mission
states deficiency In the treasury Of upwards OF teen
hundred dollars,
The committee to whom was referred at the last con-
vention the application OF st Georges church. to have
Two votes, In consequence of its having chapel con-
neced with it; reported adversely to the applicants
The majority and minority reports of the committee
on the admission Of St Philips church other
ored congregations to representation in the
ton of this diocese which laid at last
ton, were then taken motion Of MIR John King.
Copies OF the report Of the majority Of the committee
were distributed and enquiry was made by several men
beers about the minority report whether that had not
been printed too.
Mr. JAY apparently surprised rose for information on
the subject and IN reply to his questions Informed
by Mr. Haght, the secretary, that
made at the last session for the either
that the gentleman would find the minority report in
last years Journal
Mr. WM IL. HAnn.os then informed Mr. Jay. that
the majority OF the committee had printed their
port
MIR JAY-Then, Mr.. Harrison has stolen march on
us-thats all. (Laughter)
On motion, the report Of tho majority of the commit
tee being read. when
Mr. JAY moved that the reading be suspended and the
whole subject laid the table in order allow the mi
noty opportunity to print their report which
RED
The following Is a copy of the majority report
Report TO the Convention of 1885, laid the table until
the neat Convention
Inc committee to which was referred the subject Of
tho admission OF St Philips and other ooored congrs
gatons to representation In the convention Of this
diocese, report,
That in their view the question referred to them Is
one exclusively relating to the temporal
the diocese and wholly with the religious
rights or duties Of the applicants The convention Is
stuted by human wisdom the purpose of
the society by which, for whose benefit it was estab
shed IL IL no more part Of church In this couu
try religious view than are the civil
and the connection with the government In England,
part oil the church there In both countries the
for the administration Of the Of the
church the result Of experience adaptation to
circumstances Among the considerations OF expedisn
cy which body Of men uniting together for
purpose would deem the most important, must be
that OF determining with whom they would associate
and who should be permitted to participate In the gov
cy females, however worthy, by excluded
from being representatives In cur conventions and
are by law incapable Of being incorporated as mem.
bers Of churches Candidates for orders are by q
canon OF the general convention prohibited from be-
ing members of that body. These instances
sufficient to illustrate the principles which our
church organizations founded and to show
they entirely distinct from the religious rights and
spiritual privileges OF those Who In spiritual view
OF churches II 1t be incident to church
membership to be represented In the councils Of the
church, then have we In common with all Christian de-