The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-03-04

tribute relief to the furnishing applicants without requr
the sborng man might work his plot OF ground,
or Tor the farmers and thus be doing something towards
the next harvest (Hear, hear) These arrang emsnts
would be carried under the superinendence of Sir
Jonn burgoyne who had expressed his willingness 70
uer ne substitution oil this system for that Of tho public
works too sudden and also to finish the works already
Commenced con, when necessary Clear hear He thought
be borne by Ireland and he therefore, should propose
that each year. as an nstament became due half
whole debt until one half should be paid. il should be
recoected that this placing considerable burden
on the hnances Of the country and which pre- him
from making several propositions entaiing expense
which he should otherwise have proposed He also pro-
posed TO advance sum- not exceeding ESQ 000 to be
repaid before the end of December for the purchase Of
seed He proposed that this advance should be made to
the propretors and not to the tenants In proposing
he expect to ward of the effects OF the awful visitation
OF Providence with which Ireland had been afflicted 1t
was not In the power OF man to do away with the effect
Of such calamity He should not have felt necessary
to make the declaration so emphatcally had not been
for paper put forth by the Marquis OF Sligo urg ng his
c0unrymen to demand from Parliament that they should
take steps to secure immediate and cheap supply of
food lie surprised that any of education could
have imagined that it was in the power OF any govern
ment to turn famine into plenty 1t was impossible. The
utmost they could do was to alleviate the calamity
Clear hear) At Custlebar there were only hun
dred and thirty inmates in workhouse capable of
tanning six hundred the reason being the non.collec
ton OF rates; and 1t certainly surprised him to wit
while the easy and practicable duty of paying rates
for the support OF the poor was neglected The inter-
feronce Of Government to alleviate distress might be
made in this way Assistance might be granted to pro.
pretos by loans for the Improvement of propsry-by
public worksby enacting that relief should be given to
the destitute by law These three mo les should be kept
separate In advancing to propretors security should
be taken that such advances should bo applied to the
purposes for which they granted Such security
was taken by the laws in tho last session. and by
the Drainage Act particularly They proposed to
take the terms proposed the Drainage Act making
advances and to extend ito other doing
away with the technical difficulties which INSTRUCTED
fba nnfth hot
money at ga per cent to be repaid in 70 years, making
an allowance for repayment il such repayment should
take place earlier This would be better than combining
such plan with any plan for the relief Of the poor
They also proposed to consolidate and improve the
Of potion of the waste lands Of Ireland They pro
posed to devote 900 900 to this purpose that if the
proprietor chose to part with he might sell il bat that
II he refused to sell improve there should be
pnsory power Of takiSg land by the Commissioners of
Woods and Forests when its value was below 2s Cd
acre 1t was proposed that should be generally
claimed, roads be made buildings erected and divided
into lots Of from rs to 80 acres and either let tenant
undertake by that grant the of cultivation He anti
cpaed great advantage from the location Of the expelled
tenantry from other properties these holdings and he
thought would be nucleus for the formation body
Of small independent propretors. (Hear, hear, hear)
e 10 or nr ~ p ioI the more eecsI
guardians to give relief eithsr in out of the work
house. at their discretion to the in6rm poor and to all
those who are permanently disqualified from earning
their living by abour thus giving the guardians power
relieve the destitute at their homes; and when
Law Commissioners power to give leave to the
guardians to give relief to the ablebodied poor out
OF the workhouss. relief to be given in food only
Of urgent distress, should have power to take
persons into the house. or to give outdoor relief
until the next meeting OF the board of guardians
Such the measures for the rolief OF Ireland
which he proposed Immediately to introduce. Govern
also intended to introduce for faciltat.
ing the sale of encountered estates (Hear hear, from
all sdes This might be effected either by the appoint
nent OF commiss' ners to make arrangements in each
caa Or Inv IicatiO In tha nj Chanr He
could not now say which plan would be ad0q ted but
the subject still under the most anxious considera
ton Of the government Clear, hear) He should also
propose measu no by which long leasehold tenures
movable for might be converted into freeholds
ed greater difficulties Than the variety and compexty Of
tenures which made almost impossible to ascertain
whom the duties OF property devolved (hear hear y
II was therefore, worth the attention of Parliament to
consider how far tenures might be simplhed SO to
connect the proprietor with the tenant and laborer in
the same way as in England and Scotland where they
found proprieors, themselves embarrassed nevertheless
ready to become responsible for advances necessary to
relieve their tenants and laborers (Hea, hear) lie
should also have propose the subcc OF
| the fisheries. Clear, hear) Last autumn there was
great neglect OF the fisheries; and in some cases. vast
quantities OF hsh which, properly cured, would have
afforded considerable supplies Of food had been thrown
on the land for manure. (Hear) There was another
listed in Ireland namely the subject Of emigration. Ex-
ravagan expectations had been excited aud entertain
not think that either from public private resources
could be afforded for this purpose SO az to lead
such extensive emigration as would produce in
crease In wages. 1t should DO recollected that it was
not merely providing the means OF carry ing million OF
persons to a distant country but that, as extensive
system OF should look the the
countries to which they sent them. BY njudieisusi,
pursuing such course they might gi the markets. Of la
Dor in the United States and Candle and produce N,
greatest distress in those countries by the introduction Of
such mass of Paupers ieaich those countries might
gerry properly complain. clear, he, all sides j
aid the arrival Of the emgrants at tho place their
destination This had been exensvey done last ear
At Montreal Last year ITO, 1876 persons emig rated
Canada and the United States and 30 900 tho before
(Aear, hear) The effect Of any other stimulus would
either be TO send vast numbers Of paupsrs who
wou not lind employment, TO induce those who
ound the oil emigration for themselves to do at
the public expense. There were some difficulties with
regard to emgran ships oocasioned by the Passengers
Act and these under consideration, with view to
their removal, but he did not mean to PROPOSE the
part of Government, any extensive scheme of emgra-
the Of Ireland that II they properly de-
veoped that country would maintain seventeen mil.
lions of inhabitants. He did not 60 far this but
the 10 ndowners would undertake improvements in ssr
culture and in other ways, with the cooperation Of
other classes and the government he could not consider
the present population excessive. Hear hear) Other
countries which had been in bad a state as ireland
security. Clear hear) retrospect might be useful
some persons were disposed, in view Of the present
calamity to despair OF Ireland He Uord J. KssselD
was not so disposed. (Cheers) He saw why
ireland might not like other countries rise to state Of
great prosperity (Cheers) His lordship then read
from the writings of sir Thomas More description of
England in the sixteenth century; very similar 10
the present condition Of Ireland, and quoted other
authorities, to show that at that time there were
from 2000 600 to 100000 persons who went about living
By thevng, and Of whom in ono year, no fewer than
o.ooo were hung. (Hear, hesr) lie also read, from
Fletcher OF Saltoun, description OF the awess de.
morazed and wTeched state OF scotland at the end
the seventeenth century; asd briefly gsncing at the
change which has sNcs takon place ia both couu-
tries said that they would be unworthy Of being
bers Of tho British Parliament IT, after this they despair
ed OF Ireland (Cheers) He believed that the effect Of
the measures which he should propose would do much,
but other would DO required and when the pro-
time came tor proposing sucn measures, ho should
be ready to undertake the DUTY to propose any
which he believed would be for the benefit OF that
try. But with aspect to this and other measures all
that the crown the country could grant and which
Parliament could enact, nothing without the
stence oil the spirit OF seif reliance themselves the
part Of the people Ho should despair OF the task which
he had undertaken he did not symptoms the part
Of the Irish landowners to rely themselves; and
the duty # the Legislature 10 encourage that spirit
amongst them, and TO stimulate them to exeron by
showing what had been done in this country and Scot
land They should not always look to the government
and to Parliament Ter support but look to what be-
fore them and whether the Of Ireland could
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