Weekly miners' express. (DuBuque, Iowa) 184?-1849, 1847-12-08
Interview between q Eaarlcs III and
William Penn, ia 1851.

William Penn, isa l6SK.
When William Penn was about to sail
from England to Pennsylvania. he went to
take leave Of the King, and the following
conversation occurred:-"W Well, friend Will
Ham," said Charles, 81 have sold you q no.
bic province in North America, but still
suppose youkave no thoughts of going thith-
err yourseif.' eyes, have" replied Will
liam, "and am just come to bid thee fare
WE'LL" "What, venture yourselfamong the
savages Of North Why, man,
what security have you, that you will not
be in their war-kettle in two hours after
setting foot on their shores!' "The best
security in the world" replied Penn. II
doubt that, friend William; have no idea
Of any security against those cannibals, but
in regiment of good soldiers, with their
muskets and bayonets. And mind, tell
you before hand, that with all my good will
for you and your family, to whom am un-
der great obligation, l will not send sim
gle soldier with you" 81 want none of thy
soldiers answered William, II depend on
something better than thy soldiers" The
King wishes to know achat that acas.-
"Why I depend 81. themselves--on their
moral sense-and on That grace Of God
which bringeth salvation, and which hath
appeared unto all men, 81 fear, friend
William, that that grace has never appeared
to the Indians of North America" "Why
not to them ae well as to all others!' eff
it had appeared to them," said the King,
"they would hardly have treated my sub
jects SO barbarousIy Us they have done. -
"That is no proof to the contrary, friend
Charles. Thy subjects were aggressors.-
When thy subjects first went to North Am
erica, they found these poor people the fond
est and kindest creatures in the world Ev-
cry day they would watch for them to come
ashore, and hasten to meet them, aud feast
them on their best fish, and veneon, and
corn, which was oil that they had. In re-
turn for this hospitality Of the Savagcs, as
we call them, thy subjects, termed Christ.
ians, seized their country and rich hunting
grounds, for farms for themselves. Now is
it wondered at that these much in iured peo-
pie should have been driven to desperation
by such injustice, and that burning with re-
venge, they should have committed some
excuses" "Well, then, hope, friend
William, you will not complain when they
come to treat you in the same manner 81
am not afraid of it, said Penn. "Aye
how will you avoid it. You mean to get
their hunting grounds, too, suppose!''-
Yes, but not by driving these poor people
away from them" "No, indeed, how Their
will you get their lands!'' 81 mean to buy
! their lands Of them!' "Duy their lands O
them why man you have already bought
them Of me-" Yes; and at dear rate too
but did it only to get thy goodwill, no.
that thought thou hast any right TO thei
, lands" "Zouuds, man!--no right to thei
| lands!' "No, friend Charles, no right q
all. What right hast thou to their lands?'
"Why, the right of discovery; the RICH
: which the Pope and all Christian kings havi
agreed to give one another" The RICH
t of discovery! strange kind of right indeed
l Now, suppose, friend Charles, some cano
! loads Of these Indians, crossing the sea, AM
: discovering thy island of Great Britain
were to claim it as their own, and set it u
D for sale over thy head, what wouldst tho
l think of it!' "Why-why-why-why,
. replied Charles, 81 must confess, shout
think it piece of great impudence in them.
"Well, then, how canst thou, a CHRIsTIA
and a CHRISTIAN PRINCE too do that W hic
, thou so utterly condemnest in these peopl
whom thou callest Sarnges?--Yes, frien
} Charles; and suppose again that these In
dams: on thy refusal to give up thy island {
; Great Britain, were to make war on thee
= and having weapons more destructive tina
: thine, were to destroy many of thy subjects
r and to drive the rest away, woudst tho
: not think it horribly cruel?' The King as
# senting to this with strong marks of con
1 victon, William roceeded-"Well, then
friend Charles, how can I, who call myse
: n Christian, do what should abhor even i
r heathcns! No, will not do it, But wi
n buy the right of the proper owners, even {
e the Indians themselves BY so doing,
t shall initiate God himselfin his justice an
n mercy and thereby insure his blessing on m
. colony, if should ever live to plant one i
: North America Weems' Life Of WiHia'