New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1847-02-09


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ALBANr, Feb. : lsg7.
We had in the AssENsLT to-dsys debate on the
question Of the relative utility Of Common School.
and Colleges to Society as here constituted and il
was highly creditabe to the talents patriotism and
sood sense Of the House Messrs Perkins. Bias
com. Gould Of Columbia. Walsh and Lee took part
in H. and their respective addresses were really
pleasing and instructive were those Of Nessrs Bur
ohard and Potile yesterday Mr. Gould had not heard
before-he 5 farmer. and would aid Colleges
invaluable means OF fostering and sugmeniing useful
knowledge He wss brief but able impressive and eo-
quent with much OF that sincerity OF that is
winning Or. Lee OF OswegO, spoke well on the same
side. Mr. BascOms amendment % give another
$3.50 year ONLY. for the next years out Of the
I Deposit Fund, which WAS collected az the Custom
House, to be divided among the teachers OF llcC0
Common schools, Who are not on the average allowed
By the state - 81 cents per scholar while 70 few IN
Geneva College Hamilton College and your University
$4,000 granted though many OF the parents whoss
children go there are among 'As weathe' people in the
Mr. Bascous amendment rs Of very little value. ex
cep, in 50 far a. ii provoked inquiry and debate Ia
that sense however, it viii sssuredy be useful.
He argued that our Common School system builds I'D
and sustains our Colleges and Universities Mr.. Gould
took the opposite view. ! humby venture 20 dec lsre
my anxiety tor the welfare Of both, but OF Common
Schools first for OF human knowledge, reading and
l writing the keys.
The Common school Fund yielded over sg7l 900 last
| year. including $4,000 from the L. :. Deposit Fund
The Convention, with bat little hberaliiy threw the
question Of Public Instruction in the and ended by
providing not that $1,000 year, additional. should be
added 10 the sum tor the support OF ll.0O0 Common
schools from the L. : Deposits interest moneys. but
that 800 should he added In l-i7 5000 in ISIS and
In si9 smother 81 800 while the number OF children born
/ In the state in year i over 10000 Ninety thousand
births and 500 Of An annual increase provided Tor the
| 1000 additional boys and girls who will annually
/ qui's 10 be tau ht IN our Common schools
/ Mr. Perkins thought that 5000, instead of siHu.
would be enough 30 the County Superinendents giving
the Common school teachers the 5000 year Of differ
ence among them And Mr. Walsh who l. an original
thinker as usual, mindful OF the humble snd the
/ depressed.
Nike H,Gsh on Education.
Mr. Walsh would Ike to have every dollar Of the ap
preparation 20 where every poor mans child can gotO
| the Common schools where his boy young Mike.
20 lie called him young Nike although he not yet
chrsteued He was waiting 10 have him develop him
self whether he deserving of 80 honorable
sppellatou lie did not know that those who had been
through College generally much smarter than those
who had received their education in Common Schools.
he deemed trf streets pretty or place %
get education. There Is where he educated,
with the exception OF about quarters when he
to a Common school child had better learn to speak
one language well than fifty tongues indiicrently.
Mr. Perkins had told of the benefit the poor derived
from Medical Colleges in large cities They were OF
benefit in thsthey prsctced upon the poor gratis until
they acquired skill enough to practice upon those who
would pay. They do ~ BARRIERS apprentices do, prac
tee upon delinquent customers to acquire skill to shave
those who pay well. or juvenile scuptors whose
masters permit them 10 work in putty until they be.
~ ppfv - chi spi IN Mr.
had also praised the Purtans and stated that of
their first acts was to establish College. lie (Mr.
Walsh claimed kindred with them. They
came 20 this country 20 escape religious perse-
cution but before the rust had been of the
chains which had bound them they enacted proscnptve
which transcribed in brutality the oppress
i've laws from which they had fed. As TO the social
equality OF New England TO which Mr. r. had referred,
there social equality in single block in New
York than could be found IN the entire circumference Of
New England.
The large and special gifts Colleges in the bill
public appropriations TO monopoly in learning. This
species OF monopoly carried 10 perfection at West
Point where educated at an expense of SIS,
600 not TO NJ them to serve the people IN se army Tor
not many OF them into the army but resign and
take places In the n Y Custom House, where fifteen
twenty are, or enter into competition with men
educated al their own cost as physicians lawyers sur
veyors, &c.
To say that many poor men. boy. have chance to get
into College saying than the facts would Justify
II poor boy has influential friends he may succeed IN
getting into College into West Point But II he Is
really poor he do no such thing lie believed that
Il would be much better 10 appropriate money directly
10 the children of poor and widows than 70 the
support OF Colleges lie would step the special grants
and Increase the scany pittsnce voted TO instruct $50
OO0l children the Public schools and would look we'll
after the application OF the money
There many widows in the city OF New-io 30
destitute that they compelled 10 allow their little
sons six years OF 10 pedde papers no, TO secure
themselves education but 10 get bread Appropra
tons IL the supper, OF such persons would be more
worthy the benevoence OF the state than for the sup
port OF magnificent College monopoies.
Taxation had been referred to II was declared TO be
oppressive But upon whom There is but one class
In this country who pay tsxes-the lsbOrer-the poor
man who owns nothing bu: what God gave him John
Jacob Astor pays no taxes His taxes are paid by his
tenants. Every cigar which Mr.. w. smoked. every
drink Laughter be took contributed 10 the payment
Of the taxes OF some rich landlord, and 10 give to lew
rich in the form OF the special grants IN the
bill what was withheld from and belonged TO the child
rem of the many who poor who toll Tor living and
produce the national wealth. Ms ro should Her0 BE- cast
r one cent Of a. Both funds would be by tar too little
for the public support OF llOOo COMMON Schools and
School and College appropriation Bill for lsi7
and lsis
As there not a solitary printed copy 70 be had al
the Sergeant Arms bureau borrowed from Mr.. Bur
chard Chairman the Educational Committee, It's bill
this day discussed and it has feature which very
much dislike.
The majority ia our present Senate IL the old OF
a mock democracy, who have sat Ike a nightmare on
the energies OF the State and Union for many years
Senators and l25 Assembly Districts viii return, each
its free representative the Assembly Why deprive
the senate and Assembly OF lsIs fresh from the People
and "a, hra unde ne CoHstit0H Of the power OF
exercising their Judgment for that year as thus Lessa
ture may and will for this Why vote $1,000 year 10
the University Of New YOrk for TWO years-sIOOO
year 10 the College at Geneva for TWO years-sJOOo
year to Hamilton College for TWO years-s5OOO year
Tor TWO years 10 the Regents OF the University 10 be
laid out IN test books globes, sc In such Colleges as
they may visit-s23O0 year for TWO years, 10 the
Gencsee Wesleyan Seminsry-slOOOO year tor TWO
years to the Albany Normal school-s55OOO In l-f7
and other $500 in l5f- tor District school Libra
ries OR FOR the payment Of Teachers Wages-alsO
$4,000 10 such Academies shall have pursued certain
studies and such other Colleges a. have certain mum
Der of scholars This last item Is not stated 20 be for
TWO years, Ike the Others-and there u much more
money appropriated in the bill. Among other sums
$4,000 for lsi7 and $4,000 tor l-s5, for salaries Of
County Superntendents Of Common Schools. Why
not for ls47 only
Congress votes the appropriations ONCE yesr-the
people elect Assembly ONCE year-they elect a
senate this Fall Why not be content with voting the
above large l5i7 and leaving the men OF lsie
and also their constituents voice Tor that year
For District School Libraries, or roR. &c $500 -
evidently in contradiction 10 Sec :, Art 7, OF the Con
stituton-ts indefinite, and il compeh Us to refer 10
another law ind the appropriation where we DO not
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