The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-02-04
Court or over and TermIner.

grades and SO dense was the crowd that the counsel
king their way to the court room finally it found
necessary give order for additional posse OF OIL
preserve order After the Court was organized,
| Justice Rooms was called and examined for the de-
fence, who testified follows-Is Police Justice; his
Office Is located the Sixth Avenues the gath Decem.
ber ls45, Mrs Cram required to give BALL she was
afterwards before witness in the first week In January,
and stated as an apology she did not know any gen.
tleman her husband was not in the city put sara ne
had no doubt her pastor would become bail ior her but
dd not like to ask him. she had only recently become
member of his church, and would rather he knew no.
thing Of it, but witness insisted on H. sne maa no doubt
he would 20 bail for her; she mentioned no name
THOMAS LAWRENCE, examined by Mr. WHITING 10 a
police officer called on Mrs Cram in the beginning OF
he month of January 1916, but her previously;
witness went to serve warrant her. and she said she
did not know who to call her bail, except it wa:
bee sick for length of time before; she also told wit
of her disease and that an operation had
been performed on her a short time before
Cross eramined-Had no personal acquaintance then,
since with Mr. seys the reason witness ana not take
he. then TO the the Complaint voous
MArsEw HAss. j. Sxs%lneS by I'M tux
and over has been ut her house twice. went his
invitation except that Mrs Grams little son asked him
to go see his mother; Mrs Cram dealt at witnesses
grocery store; thinks the 4h Of January; the
was all her side; she told witness that
she had operation performed on her and that she had
COMPLAINT for number Of years but did not know the
nature Of it until October last she said she had
three umors and mentioned the DOCTORS name that
moved sm she then oa Ms sS' was 10
some further particulars Of the conversation, which are
too gross for publication
BY the CouRr.--What was her manner when she held
this cosvssaon with you, was it that OF bad person
WIrwsss-It was not; she seemed to speak as if she
Cross. ssamined- was indecent exposure of
her person; the conversation lasted about 10 or 40 min
utes il seemed to witness that the whole of
saion tended show her suerngs and all she endured
while laborng under the disease.
Mra
Resided in the same house Out in different apart part
ments, with Mrs Cram it was n Nay Nay isas
does not belong to Methodist church; Mrs Cram had
conversations with witness during the summer she lived
and after the camp meeting at Sing Sing; remembers
one remark she made; she said she was in love with
Mr. and would no., no. asi
she, "and envy his wife," witness attended the camp
meeting and wa. to M cam. stS' w
nesss room, and held religious COMPENSATION with
the witness Mrs Cram remained dnrlDg 'ns
fered up; it after Mr.. seys came to Witness
that Mrs Cram told witness she was IN lSve WIN
Seys but heard her mention name, but not in an I'M
cross. e,smined-Is not on good terms with Mrs
Cram we got warrants against each other she made
the hr.t complaint and had witness arrested does not
she used to GENE to Mrs Grams house.
CoUNsEL-She knows YOU madam
hs called twice to that boarded
with me; his wife was with him; WITNESSES husband is
Gro. L. Tnour, IT., examined in Hudson street;
is mason by trade; thinks he knows Mrs Cram; was in
the employ Of named Stanley, In Bleecker street,
living there at the time while he patching some
ground and the house; he had sociaole conversations
Th waned to could Do
slick witness laughed at it. but did not charge his mind
with at the time witness S. thinks links. his reply syt was
WI While nsD was there and shortly after missed
of the men, and Mrs. Cram out OF the room; cannot
swear whether the man went out or not
Mrs EuNrcE BELL, examined by Mr.. WH,TlNo.ke;
in Blocker street. in 1885, lived in his house for three
months; during that time had an introduction to Mrs
Cram thinks was in august she was 10
ness heard her always speak highly Of the Revd
MIR seys and his family; she invited Mr. and Mrs An.
drews and witness her house in September we went
there after tea; Mr.. and Mrs. seys were there; Mrs
Cram sent her husband for them she said Mrs seys was
have Mrs Andrews magnetsed, to find out what was
Mrs Seys' complaint they came there, but renamed
there only short time Mrs andrews wos moi maghH ,
witness about a merchant down town; that ne was
very fine man. and was very kind to her. ne ASSISTED her
daughter any thing Cram said no that he did not
know she had daughter and that she weuld not tell
him of it, take her daughter with her; and that he
did not know that she (lrc. Cram) was married
woman.
man, as far as yeu know!
| Ayes; only she was very talkative
MARGARET GREEN, examnsdby Mr.. WRITINGS &C
uuainted with Mrs Cram; she became acquainted with
her daughter and the daughter made witness
with the mother; waRess lived with Mrs Cram as help
once and made prayer; Mrs. Cram spoke to witness
about Mr. Seys she always spoke in ms iavor never
heard her speak bad of hm witness always rettred 10
rest at 10 o'clock Mrs Cram did not retire at the same
tine gentlemen in the habit OF calling there and
witness would ba sS. oned Mr. and
wished he kiss her and that she would KISS him only
she afraid he would be oended she SAID she kssed
offended he left the house and never came there after
wards. go n., -
White street The witness underwent long cross-cx
animation by the District Attorney, but nohing was ell
cited to shake her direct testimony:
JOHN VAN NosTRANp examined.-Lives IN Vanuam
street; knows Mrs Cram and Mrs. Ridley the latter
hired house of wness;it was No IN the rear van
frequently met going in and out there there was
complaint made to Witness and he went IN and
remain If she continued there two men coming out
one morning very early one was undresssd ana ran .S
the pryy the other well dressed man. ana Drusheu
mast witness witness when he removed her, told her
that the people up stairs complained OF so many people
ming back and forward there Oh piay ng
making noise and that they would rot stay here she
Crossesamined-The conversation with Mr: Ridley
was about FIVE days before she removeoi never
ask ed her TO remove until the complaint was made, al
though he the two men coming OUT OF ner room pe
fore that time; there was difference between Mrs
Cram and Mrs Ridley and witness about strapping Mrs
Ridieys boy the boy cut WITNESSES horses tail off, and
] threw snow balls through his windows got hammer
and hammered down the ceiling of the privy and wit,
did strap him half as much as he s wSGa one
in 1919 the house was formerly inhabited by Mrs Cram
CHILD-were persons in tho habit Of calling there al
ter you moved . 80, A.. 49,,
DisTRrcr ATTORNEY objects-Chi!d we ofer to show
that il as house of ilfame while she kept it, and that
persons were in the habit Of calling there to carry on
| the same business.
CouRr-Mr. Child, you must prove the character o.
the house In other way; yos cannot give me ns
what other people say. .
ABRAHAM CoppiNGToN, examined by CHiLD:-hnow.
Mrs Cram lived in the house with her at BEDFORD street
previous to May, 1916 she lived there six or eigh
months; witness occupied an apartment in the mouse
CuLp-I offer to show that Mrs Cram received men az
this house at all hours and that the house was mouse
OF i'll fame. sc.,
ant cannot 20 through all the sinks and cutters withii
the city hunt up testimony to destroy the
the proseculrix to justify his own acts or at eps.
show that she invited him TO do the act ior whon he
now prosecuted, whether he did il or not; a. .