New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1847-04-29
book have been published with the full sanction. and
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partly through the agency of the Editor himself;
From ~ Trbgns. MareA q, 1873
We have received great many letters from almost
every part Of the Unon askng al manner Of questions
win regard 70 the character sndenee. and progress %
pT7rafs but large pamphlet Of 70 pages viii be issued
containing HeaTiy az Of ~ Hquire and ObSe
A M pm.s trend Of rorsIrs 10 lie and az a.
desf ,zsgeAs apostle Of Of Ag dociHe nee aeafh This
Work "a. been got up In pari ~ Pf'H ne J''e"a'
We. therefore deny entirely the justice Of TAs Tn
bnfs charge that We are not discussing Assoeisnon
that quoting from the socialism OF everoody
else In order 10 excite preisdce against that OF Tia
Tribune We claim % have submitted proof eopieus
and conclusive OF the fact tina; the Socialism OF ~
Tribune that Of the school OF Associanonsts OF winch
FouRrER was the founder and that tue fundamental
principles of that school those which we have de-
fined them to be. We quite willing 10 submit TINS
point, well All others involved in the discussion, to
the Judgment Of our common readers.
The Tribune insists upon distinction between the
passions Of man (mesning his impulses affections
faculties , and those perted and rcs0as eLsiooHs q
human ~ trinity which the term is commonly understood
to imply But 10 not that very iniormiiy psrtoi man
nature And yet The Tribune demands social order
which shall secure its full sSrsloPneHt' What oees
sions these reious exhibitions What causes this in
trinity and why is Il that II 81 mans impulses are
good they should often have perverted and vicious
exhibitions = The Tribune may reply that Soedy per.
ver,s and yisies them But how came Society 70 be
vicious II its individual members not so society
is simply form, which active principles OF life have
created and that form Of necessity determined by the
law of its life An acorn produces an oak, and not
bush because that the law Of It's Development Pre-
csely co. good impulses right motives just and right
eOus principles in the conduct Of Individual men, cannot
possibly perverted vicious social form. II
that form is bad II must be because It's vital formative
principle Is evil good tree cannot bring forth evil
fruit The TribuHCs distinction therefore, fails entirely
&, only evades il cannot affect the objections We make
to the full and free Development Of mans impulses
and passions.
Tie Tribune reerates It's assertion that the condition
Of the Of the population of England is worse than
that Of their ancestors Eve centuries ago and re-
pests its citations in proof Of IT, But we have already
shown that they conclusive and The Tribune OF
fers nothing IL Is perfectly clear that great suffer
ing exists among the common people OF Europe at the
present time but that fact by no means proves that
there has never been greater Much OF IT, moreover Is
owing entirely to temporary and iortuiious causes
while the fact is only pertinent 10 this discussion 50 Tar
az can be- traced directly 10 the working OF general
principle II The Tribune however will take the trouble
10 refer to some authentic OF Information upon
this point it will fad that he drerose ieph OF human NE
ia Great Britain which is the sfest possible test OF the
physical condition Of the people y SrsoiT nor han
has srer bern before This could not be the case
IT, az The Tribune contends, the O sustaining lite
within reach of the lsbOrer had been constantly and
rapidly diminishing. More upon this point though much
might be said, cannot be needed IN Tact me 1T
bac abandons the position when it dscards the theory
of Mr. MALrHus that Population naturally outruns
subsistence" With its usual consistency, however II
Immediately proceeds to reiterae and prove what u
had lust disavowed.
The TribuHes parallel between the condition OF Ire
land and that the shaker Establishment At NewLeo
anon IL striking enough but II scarcely warrants the
inference which The Tribune would draw from IT, II
the principles OF this Shaker Association could be ap
Piled 10 Irelandf all private property were abolished
there-au marriages annulled, all intercourse Of the
sexes prevented and the whole population brought d
recty under the despotic control of single person
whose will law, in the minutes details OF lie,
and If all VINO violated any OF the imperative command
ments by which Shskerism rules ts 81 Jecs could De
at once expelled and remoyed-it Is quite likely the
Green Isle would present different aspect from that
which it now exhibits. We doubt, however, whether
Mr. Lsbouchere and the Imperial Parliament Will soon
be released by such a substitution from the cares and
duties imposed upon them by the affairs of Ireland
The TrbHnss attempt 10 reason from one instance 70
the other lacks the first element essential 10 the hgu
ment that of analogy between the two csses would
be lust AS rational 20 compare the state of Ireland with
that of some private family in Ohio OF Oregon, and draw
differences dd hbitum thereirom.
But The Tribune says that Labor can aud ought to
be rendered drqcirc per S. and not simply from its
rewards results. Aud II proceeds 10 urge that this
may be done by decorating workshops sheltering farm
era and by various other devices such employ d
In war music marches, &c &c. These things Associa
ton proposes provide ,itpropOses to have groups
and ias centre and wings companies and bsttalions
for working as for fighting -tproposes to have men
plough, and reap and work everywhere In iu uniform
TO the sound of music sc. Thus says Mr.. BRISBANE
muslc, uniforms badges honors concerts, and rival
fes of mssses have made AR aftractse may sup
pose that applied to production they would render iadlI
/ Nv attractive p " But all the .iimusnts Of ART, OF
hopors vi ambition OF emulation perfectly incompst
IDLE with the narrow, civilized doDeHic Organization
Here the radical defect OF Societies and here u IL
that radical reform must begin. We must combine
and associate large masses develop the hsrmones Of
human nature We must free man from his present embsr-
ra.ed and posac life and him the liberty Of bis
hang We know how strongly civilized elings his
isolated household family Js and what Pr0udse' there
l are to overcome this point" &C &c.
But all this is too absurd Tor argument working oy
music blowing in uniform, cOnerrng nominal and
empty honors &c might do for children, but to urge II
a. means Of making hard labor attractive, Is nonsense
The only thing that make labor attractive to the
U ot ng il
compense and above ALL the certainty OF possessing and
ENJOYING that recompense whatever II may De- 60 iar
as these motives operate. they make LABOR attractive
Men now toll first TO obtain subsistence and then 70
acquire the OF comfort tor themselves and their
children. They labor willingly 20 long as they Kno"
that what they thus acquire VIII be htr orn. lney eN
peet 10 orn ito retain the possession OF IT, and have
over IL the supreme control They desire and expect 70
rnonOpol.e IT, for themselves and their postery
One great purpose of Law is to secure 20 them THIS gh
10 cure the safety OF property to confer upon and
preserve to them their right OF absolute and permanent
ownership. Whatever therefore periects ana secures
this right renders Labor attractive IN me only sense IN
which il can become So But The IrloHhs denounces
the monopoly of aHd"-that s ne o"nersnlp Oy lhoi
yiduals-as the monster evil OF society and the
premises upon which bases this asserton-ss has been
shown in the early part OF this discussion-nyoVe de
ual OF the right OF m0HoPoiiHS anything destroy lne
right of owning property OF owning land and no de-
vices Of human ingenuity could render labor attractive
7 In any sense 81, , &
U
touched upOu however, may recur IN our next
which will conclude this discussion.
ISTEREsrING FROM SOUTH AMERlcA-By the
last sailing clipper brig Label, Capt Drebert we have
6es of the Journal de C0rHmct0 published al no Jan
Giro 10 the 9Th u The accounts from Monievideo are
as late as the 18th Of February and from Bnenos Ayres
10 the 10th but they not important The Empress
of Brazil being eHca prayers are ordered to be offered
40 for the safe issue The Emperor was 10 have elt
Rio on the 10Th for Csmpos, 70 be absent perhaps
month ,
Mr.. Wise our Minister, was yet without intercourse
with the Government
There were no American vessels Of war IN the maroon
The Columbia with Commodore ROsseau. was daily ex'
pec,sd from the river. The u : snip Levant capt
Page sailed for Norfolk on the attn Of March
Business OF every nature Inactive Freignts 10 tne
A. -. .ndSa Herald
FROM KtNGsros-weh have adyices from Kings
ton Jam 10 the 3lst OF Msrch The local news Is OF NJ
tie inheritance The Morning Journal VI me 5lst com
plains that Spanish SLAYER passed within ssnt Of rOI'
Rov.l on the 18th al, filed with slaves Inc creum'
ts1ce was reported to the Admiral but 20 nouee was
taken Of the afAr. ~ " ~ -
General Noiires.
CAUTION TO THE PUBLIC.