New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1847-01-29
A,socIat,on Discus,ed... no. II.


Association Discussed. NO. ID.
10 the E6itor Of the CoErsu Ln7uh1
AsPKooKIss is my watchword and the appoint
Cd limit Of this controversy approaches, VIII en-
deavor to resist the strong temptation to follow you
into an in6nity Of irrelevant discussions II seems
TO me that the Doctrine Of observation-disclosures
L. That Circumstances Of position, opportunity
encouragement instruction, temptation, &c exert
a vast and often vital influence, whether Tor good
or evil over the formation and quality OF the hO-
man Chsraeter-hss already been sufficiently Get forth
and illususted The deduction therefrom that wa
should systematically epdesyor 10 secure to all "a near
ly may be, education and training under such circu
stances az will tend to incline them to Industry, TEN
perance Virtue selfRespect. instead Of those which
naturally tempt to Idlene,s Dissipation Vice and De
basement seems too obvious 10 need more explicit as
ser,ion pass then to another branch Of the general
argument
You say that have not attempted to prove Association
the best means Of relieving the Poorhow truly the
reader must Judge Most surely if have not aaeHptco
this have attempted nothing whatever All my arti-
cles have had this single aim True have not wished
to sssa nor undervsue other agencies Of phi
ianhropic effort yet deeply feel that other plans con
tons which the consequences Of extreme poverty,
while Association proposes wsy-in my Judgment
rational and feasble-of reaching the of these
cssmtes and absolutely abOlisafng Psupersm. igno-
rance and the resulting Vices. need not surely re-
eapiiulsfe my statements of what Association is and
how it will do what promises You yourself seem to
admit that the evils of Caste psuperism constrained
ideness ntemperance &c haze been abolished by the
Shakers under an organic son far less favorable dt
seems to me) than that OF Association. / know you
say the Shakers vrtuous not because they belong
to Shaker establishment but because they have within
them virtuous principles but ask you to consider the
TACT that these Shakers in the habi, OF taking
gladly any such infants they getfoundlings lille
sinates destitute orphans, sc. &o-the very material
from which Houses Of Refuge, Peniteniaries and
Prisons mainly recruited, and training them up
with scarcely q failure, into these industrious
moral, sober, vrtuous adults. Does any one believe
that the ference between the children trained about
the Five Points and those educated by the Shakers
andsr virtuous and comfort giving auspices elsewhere
Ia intrinsic and not superindueed by the force Of cir
cumstsncesf
Let me here make more enori 10 show you Uky !
believe the practical remedy for existing
Social Evils Keeping in mind what Association s and
how 1t viii certainly (or believe take judgment by
default these points, secure to every member OPP
portunity to labor and produce AL times with the fair
and just Rscomp,pse OF such lsborihs 1t will
10 each who will work uniailng Home the use Of a
portion OF the Soil just terms and ensure immense
Economics In Production Distribution and ConsumY.
ton that ten hours faithful daily labor will procure
to the Lsborer far than twice the necessses and
comforts Of life he in the average enjoys beg
you consider with briefly poor mans present re.
lation to Land and Capital what lie innate evils
and see whether they do not suggest appropriate rem
edies
Man was ordained 10 live by Labor evade this
doom by Riches more by Rogucry and Beggsry but
every evasion proyokes and appropriate
penalty. some-saddot, case OF all would gladly la
Dor for livelihood, yet find no opportunity. per
sonsy know Of this latter class now in our City
have not doubt, from data in my possession that
there TAry Thousand in City this day vsiuly
seeking or fami.hingy awaiting some chance 10 earn
bare subsistence. And this cruel wrong must continue
and be aggravated so long present Social Order
endures. Winter a great contraction of bust
in this and other Cities throwing out OF employ
ment thousands upon thousands who found work Of
kind during the greater part Of the mder
These, need not urge precisely those whose
ings have been smallest while they had work-hodcar
riers. stevedores and day lsborera OF all kinds
whosc weekly earnings cannot exceed s. for the 4,
weeks In the year when they ind worksay $500 il
all for the support Of family In City where tire woot
costs from 80 to $40 per cord and the rent of very
poor and house is oftener $500 than $500 Nees
urge that IL Is very hard for one of these poor men
If strictly temperate and wisely frugal 10 lay u,
anything during their better for the twelve han
weeksot Win,eri And how they to live through
those weeksi The Aims House ssnno, hold tenth O
them the City viii not aid fourth of them the Asso
citation for the Relief Of the Poor does nobly ye cal
scarcely dc enough to provide them with fuel alone
Yet the Reat must be paid and the Food obs.ned-how
And do no, all agree thu, Aims Giving though lsud.b,
and vitality necessary does tend to remove the evil
which palllses but the contrary, Does any one bs
hevc that there will be fewer psnpers here next White
for al that Public and Private Charity ia SO nobly dom
this Winter 81, not rather probable sa, there vii
bs moref
But to the other point In Oregon where al the lsn
not actually in occupancy is free to whoever warts IL
have not heard that any provision for Psuperism la
been found necessary though probably some inarm O.
srept Srpfled or aote persons charges upon the
rslstivcs Blu, vigorous, willing male or female bes
sar presume extreme rarity on the waters trbu
tsry to tho Columbia. In lowe snd Wisconsin the cas-
Is not much different Tor there wild and is abundant
elt per acre and eighty with rude dwelling an
tweny in fence may often be bought Tor the co.
Of mailing the improvements. very nearly. of eours,
Labor 10 in demand and will command very nearly III
value Of iss product II we sapPose improved isrmin
land in Wisconsin worth $40 per acre the yearly rent.
which the sndess eulnvstor must pay the use Of
win be less than 81 per sere-ssy bushels of whes
three OF Rye OF -four OF Indian Corn and this mainly
entirely for the Of the improvements made ,hereo
ny human labor And this rent will govern toe psee
Hired Labor in that community
But years pass the population Of Wisconsin b.
swelled to One Million and though Products are not IN
creased in average price Land in fertility yet IN
improved acre worth in tho average some thirty do
lars Now the issklandsr who mus, buy or rent por
ton OF the soil mus, pay for at this rass-ihat is III
price Of ak bushels II Wheat nine OF Rye OF twelve
Corn for the annual use Of acre ADD in proportion
be euysit So II he sells his labor 10 some owner q
land tina, owner viii only pay him for tia, labor pr;e
which will leave him shsre Of the products esavslen
to the rent aforesaid Can any fail SEE that the ma,
he, value Of Labor Che poor mans only espi,an n.
been depressed-lhsi the increase Of populsto,
ecoooc to 100000 has diminished the facilities for Oh
tsioas hvsaboOd athoash much laid may yet renal,
ansnpfovedi Bat century ai,crwHd the pop1lstioi