Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1847-02-13


!. Mr. DOUGLASS. Exactly. Neither had he. Butwh.
did the report say
J Here portion Of the report was again read
Mr.. CHAPMAN. Was any particular member designate
as having used such expressions
Mr. DOUGLASS. No; because the writer of the repor
knew to be false and he dare not designate any member
particular. And for that very his report
Infamous offence against the House. The suspicion of havin
been guilty of such conduct attached itself to them all
Elected the whole House. These words, 8" Bah bah !
occurred in almost every sentence of the repor they we
repeated thirty times. This represented the object OF thu
House have been suppress the privilege of debate by vu
gar cries and uproar It's tendency lead the world Il
believe that the whole House had joined attempt to
press and disgrace his colleague false and audu
lent report representing the House stutiying and dsgrac
ing itself before the country and the world For that reason
it that Mr.. ID. had brought in this resolution He Ina,
done of regard truth he had done that he nigh
vindcae himself and he prepared to meet any conse
qlences that might grow out of Surely he would not vote
to expe Wing reporter for less offence, and then refuse
expe Democratic reporter for far greater He would not
expe reporter for abuse Of individual member, and refuse
to expe another who had sandered and magned the whole
House, The Wing reporter had proessed give only par
cular part happened in the hail. and that evidently
buresque its face, But here report from
leading Democratic paper protesting to give full and true
of the proceedings and debates Of the House, and
dsgraced the whole House, its presiding officer and all its
members. '..,
! Mr.. KENNEDY would state the gentleman from ILL
nois that before he assumed to expe reporter he must
show that the report libel on the House He must not
assume IL SO happened tnat N nhu paItclpateu
the scene which he willing admit dsgracefu to
the House. but it would do for member to try to
throw off his disgrace that Of the House by putting
reporter who dared to tell the truth The way to avoid
having reports go forth the world avoid giving
occasion for them. He did not know, for his part, how
many babs had been uttered the occasion referred to.
Mr.. DOUGLASS The gentleman says he himself paric-
pated in what he stated have been dsgraceul He
would ask that gentleman whether, when member Of that
House his seat speak bill before the House, the
gentleman had himself nsued that member by crying bah
bah 7"
Mr.. KENNEDY recognise no right in that member to
catechise me.
Mr.. DOUGLASS. Certainly not. I do not undertake to
caechse the gentleman; but ask him respectfully not i'm
proper question.
Mr. KENNEDY. Well, then, / will say that heard re-
peatedy EXPLANATIONS indicating strong dissatisfaction and dis
gust members attempting to seize upon private bill UNI
discussion before the House for the purpose of making
upon it, out of order explanation which the House, when
the member had asked leave refused to hear.
Mr.. DOUGLASS. l will call the genteman's attention
again the report 1t says that before my colleague had ut
tered word upon the matter of personal explanation but
had expressed his intention few words the bill the
House resounded with cries of Bah bah !" Andagan,
when he promised detain the House than five
minutes in speaking to the bill, the cries of Bah bah "
sit down -" No, no !" &c. were renewed All this be-
fore he had uttered word about any personal explanation
Mr. KENNEDY. That is all true but will satisfy the
gentleman about it all. 1t perfectly well known when he
and asked say few words the private bill before
the House that he intended to make speech out Of order
This known probably every individual present knew
that he had been concerned similar ouages the order
Of the House before objected from the beginning 1t
notorious myself to the Chair and to every body else that
he wanted TO bring his personal explanation under pretence
of speaking bill Every knew what he was going
say admit that did object rather too soon-beloe his
words amounted to violation of the rules and order OF the
House. The Chair had to wait till he had gotten out
tence of his irrelevant matter before could stop him. And
yet the effort made again and again. override the de-
cson of the Chairman of the Committee and get in his
PLANTATION, against the order and the will of the House. do
know whether the exclamation "bah !" 'bah 7!
used not Nor do know whether the use Of such
carnations put down a member who trying to violate
the order of the House dsgracefu than would
have been to suffer the violation which attempted did
give signs by my voice that should not sit and hear him vio
the will and order and decisions Of the House, and SINH
lar signs Of dapprobaon repeated all the House
Whether said bah" or not, will not say.
Mr. DOUGLASS. Perhaps the gentleman has msappre-
hended what said respecting my colleague admitted that
he called TO order in that there offence it
the undoubted right of the gentleman from Indiana any
other member TO call member to order and endeavo
proper manner 10 prevent his violating the order of the
House but the report says that this accompanied with
the most insulting language The gentleman will not say
that this occurred. There is a member here who will
the inamy Of such act.
/ Mr. KENNEDY. As to the inamy, | am ready avow
that did cry "sit down" Whether said I" bah !" or
not not certain but did words and expressions
equally disrespec,ful.
Mr. DOUGLASS. wanted to know whether any gen.
eman used the language stated in the report The gentle
will the point and that he did has
any other gentleman admitted it. The gentleman however,
admits that he did intimate my colleague that he had better
sit down.
Mr.. KENNEDY. If did not say "bab," thought it.
IA laugh
Mr. DOUGLASS. If any member here will that he
did such language is here reported, l. and believe
thinking in this House, will vote to expel that
member.
Mr.. KENNEDY. Well, if the member from Illinois wants
to his wrath me, will here tell him that the report
report and libel. he expects to get this House
to expel me because not willing meany throw off on
the Reporters responsibility which belongs the House,
imagine he will find himself greatly mistaken. So far my
recollection goes Of the dgrceu which here
Saturday morning. say that whoever reported it in the
Union, presenting the rowdy spectacle which
presented here any Reporter could do. II adj
nit disgrace to the House and such things will be
The way prevent such reports teach members
spe themselves and the order Of this House, and respect
their constituents too much to violate it.
And that word "bah" Is il not notorious to
all that the member from Illinois wanted to permit
him to make speech which he knew TO be out Of order
The who will do that against repeated decision Of the
presiding officer of the House, does not deserve any thing
better than insult from oil the members Of the House
Mr.. DOUGLASS. will not further question the gentle
But say thatthere is material difference between utter
ing deliberate fasehood go record other countries
and uture urnes IN order to Jue member, and making
speech not strictly in order could refer the gentleman
the distinguished members Of this House. who had made
speeches during this very session. entirely out Of ORDER from
beginning to end. This in fact the usual mode with
venerable member from Massachusetts, (Mr ADAMs and
every body knows that is the usual mode Of making per-
sona explanations and sometimes Of getting in speeches