The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-01-12
Interesting Debate relative to the army.
INVENT -SINrA CONGRESS-.
SECOND SESSION.
HoEEe or Representatives.

Honse or Representatives.
SATURDAY, Jan q, ls47.
APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE ARMY, navy AND THE INDIANS
There werc present this morning, at 10 o'clock, to
meet thirty.two members. Early as.embiages are not
customary and this will account Tor tho snallness Of the
number
The Hov. II. sL'cEk, after tho Spoken raped 10
der. delivered prayer.
| gagged in opening the bids for the public printing
MIR. Mckay from the COMMITTEES Of Ways and Means
| by general consent, reported three several bills
1. To defray the contingent expenses Of the Indian
| Depar,mentfVr the current hscal year.
sr ons @ ay a the
OiO communication for officers subsistence $slo62o TO-
for horses slsoia pay%ent in lieu Of clothing
subsistence kind $s4a s76 for clothing Of the army
camp and garrison eauipage, expenses OF re-
rnisoned officers, musicians and prvass sia 600 pay
OF volunteers under the act of May, lsa6 $l4s 600 ira
Yelling allowances. $500 transportation Of supplies
for the Quartermasers Department. etc. $4,000, 600
There other items but those above named are the
sA bill making appropriations for the naval service for
year ending June 80, lS4s Among the items are for
ANA etc hS aoS tear
vessels, armament, ETC. 81 SEQ QUO
These bills were severaly read and referred to the
| Committee OF the Whole on the State OF the Union
sBIP CANAL cHArLAiNs-srrriso AT THE SUBJECT OF
| NrJR TrcEnsoLu owed that the House resolve it.
self into Committee of the Whole on the State Of the
| Union
NIT a resoluon-hat a select committee be appointed
10 inquire and report whether any and what
can taken in relation TO ship canal railroad be-
tween The Atlantic and Pacific oceans, the sthmus
Of rapoma and that the committee report by bill or
MIR MoDowrLL, of Virginia. ask leave to introduce
a esolu'icn.
The SPEAKER pro TEN The resolution of the gentle
man from Connecticut has not yet been disposed Of
MIR. THoMpsoN, of Mississippi-What is III Does ii
propose any particular committee
| The SrEAKKR-A select committee.
THoMpsoS-Then object TO II,
MIR c. J. ISoxHsoLL~--Ilas not the subject already
been referred TO a committee
Mr.. McDowELL-Mr Speaker, L
Mr. RocxweLL (stl standing ID believe, sir, the re-
Mr.. THoMPsoS (risiDg u object 10 special commit
tee ['Oh, no. don't "
The srsAKrn-(Knock, knock The gentleman from
Virginia (knock, knock) has been recognised by the
chair. lie asks Lave to offer resolution:
II resdthat the Committee Military Affairs be
instructed to amend the law for the appointment OF Chap
| lains--and agrsed to-
MIR Hv rcsRroRD moved that the resolution to termi
the debate the ten regiment BILL to-day at half
past two o'clock, be reconsdercd.
The CLERK 10 the speaker)It was passed day before
The SPEAKER, (being TINS advised)-It is too late.
Mr. HvrognroEo- wish. then, to extend tho limit Of
| the debate till Monday.
| Mr. C. j. IvaEnsolI-Is not that the same thingl
The sprAKrR--It can't be reconsidered The effect of
| the senienans motion would be an evasion OF the
Mr. HuSespyopp = Can't the vote be reconsderedl
| The sPrAxsR-The rules ioroid.i
| Mr.. HUN0EKFoRD-Then move that the resolution he
The srsAxrR-The Chair will entertain that motion
! MIR CpApMAS OF Aiabama--How many does it require
| 10 rescnd the rcsolutioni
This spEAKgR-Two.thirds.
Mr. j. r. lnoERsoLL--it wos passed by majority.
The srsAKER-t will require wohirds to bring be.
fore the iiousc. majority can then pasa H.
Mr. J. X lrcERsoLL-W ould it be in order to move to
go into Committee of the Wholel
| The SPEAKER-lt would.
| MIR. ISarssoLL-I make that motion.
The SrEAKtn.It is a privileged question
Dir. g. J. IrGrRsoLL-,Can it be done while question
ispendng7 [Laughier]
,ui a.
committee. There were now sixtyhree members pro-
seat
Mr. Lovo who was cut sh ort in his speech yesterday
by the adjournment, resumed his remarks He dii not
who in possession Of the executive depa, nj
he could 10 ALL the country The course Of MIR. Web
s.er, during the war with Great Britain had INJURED him
in the public estimation lie did not vote supplies to our
amy, and sequence many held him 10 DO under
Britsh influence Let US present ON undivided iobt in
defence of the Uni,n II we acquire territory from
States then be considered We should not emharrass
the action OF by gstDg the subject ., this
time. Gentlemen may conjure up ghosts and hobgob
ns but they cannot brighten the people Of the South
who ready and determined 70 protect their fresides
M SrS sy, to the Of Torhenn mem He did
want war for the cqoision OF territory alone but
It became to ortty posts increase our forces pro-
secute hoses W IN energy, AMI, a the conclusion Of
the war, make the OF peace He voted that 1t was
inexpedent to tax ea and coffee he did not wish 10 dis
% whig, that b tariff act Of Isa2 should be restored.
GENERAL TAYLOR AT FAULT Nh. cLAy-THE OLD wAR
HORsE-DiNNkN
Mr. FIoxLIr Of Illinois, said here appeared be three
parties in this House Tho fir st against the war
the second for the war; and the third between wind
and waterin state oil tetweeDity- on rail =
neither ono side the other. To uso homely
phrase, those who compose 1t gobbe with the turkey
and roost with the chickens. (Loughterl They might
talk against the If they base enough to do SO
The gentleman from Georgia. (Mr Toombs) said ycser-
day that the had teen conducted with vigor with
but that this not the fault Of the gal
liant General ia the field" MIR. Fcklin said 1t the
fault Gen raj Tay lor Why not the enemy pur.
sued when ~-ossed the Rio Grands, after the battles
of the 9Th az 9Th Of May
MIR j. r. lsaEssoLL--Will the gentleman let me an.
swer
| Mr. FIcxLIS--I want somebody to reply
Mr.. lNosRsoLL--The brave men who fought the bot
ties had been thirty hours without food. There were
only two thousand of against the seven thou
sand Of the Mexcans. They were In no condition to
pursue the enemy.
Mr. FIcRLIS letter 10 the Clark, which was rcad
IN low toue Of voice The honorable gentleman re.
marked that written TO the editor OF the Peoyune
ny en- omeer Of tho army, and was designed as shield
70 Genefsi iaylor. He concurrod with the gentleman
from geo. that the war had progressed too long DO
conhued hVe ears longer would break down any man
Wrh me reputation even OF Gen. Washington in his
paimest Gays The war went too slowly. General
layor mad troos enough; he had fifteen thousand
before he went to Monterey Why not the battery
train therei The truth TO- General Taylor did not snci
pate resistance at that place The had been inef
GENTLY prosecuted by General Taylor Monterey might