The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1847-02-05

Mr.. CHIlps aud Mr.. wnrrlso were both heard in 70.
ply to Mr. Clinton.
The COURT however, decided that the testimony was
admissible
Esamirahon res~med-witness called on her on the
she then her sick bed he came up to the bed to
her and shock hands with her we afterwards
and bid her I good ey and We're Waking iU.' ou
when she requested me to como back. she had
nunicstion to make to mel thinks that he must have
heard hers be went awsy and witness returned and set
down with her. she then told me that the Saturday
evening previous to the camp nesting Mr. ssys came
to her house and took hold Of her hand sd aem pied
draw her to the sofai she demonstrated with him by
asking him the question do you want to disgrace
him to leave the house, and at this subse time
she mentioned that he attempted take other liberties
with hers she then said to him. 81 looked up to you a.
pastor and leader but disappointed in yonD he
then cried and begged her to forgive him. and asked God
on his part to forgive him, and promise he neve
would be guilty OF such impropreties egan, she
house. she continued 10 state to witness that asr tine
camp meeting he visited her again. and he dealt very
roughly with herr he caught hold Of her wrist wrsnched
and was lame in consequence for several days
thinks she told witness he took one of her hands &c
At this stage her narrative to witness he asked her
that she made to witness she answered ~ wish YOU 10
70 otter Mr. seys and bring him here and he will own
truth whole truth alsfed the man Of God she
was perng her witness also asked her had
told her husband Of she sad no., for he at tho
time seriously inclined and If she told him of it, it would
in all probability turn his thoughts away from ali re
gion witness cautioned hor against telling any ono Of il
except her husband: his reason was that would
great commotion in the church. and II Mr. Seys was gull
ty would be developed later and the church
would make every thing right; witness advised her also
to withdraw from the church. but if she did not Iks
to remain in It, she might transfer herself another
or church. and he at the same time admonished her to
throw out no nsnuaons against the character of Mr.
Sey but to treat him respectfully and shy and do moth
ing that would him. and through him church,
she said something had happened on ono OF the occa
sion when Mr. seys called, that she could not tell to
any man
Q-By whom, or by whose means wore these matters
chrma. and New Years. Wess until
ne ala not develops Il himself he put in way of being
and az he was going out he met lady steps and
Mrs Cram invited him to back into the house. the
lady was w. Jays she was introduced to witness az Q
member ofhejchVrch and the affairs the church
the subject OF conversation between us; witness then
went to Mr. MCLEAN aud stated to him supposed case
and he said fought to come out; Mrs. Cram waited on
him next day, and the whole thing came out
Cross e,amined-wa. 80 years old, If he Is correct y
informed, in December last
Q-Who told you
A.,The person call my father; l am member Of
The church for IS years ana upwards have resided in
New York about four years.
Q-where were you ordaned7
Al can produce my parchment.
WHirINs-Thats more than | can dol bsvs los,
miRo.
Q-How long had you been engaged with Mr. ssys,
next Mays when the disclosure was made il struck wit
mes, with great surprise and pain; witness thinks was
ade IN inc latter end oil October or beginning of Novsm
per- cannot say how long abe making the
did not mark the hand Of the clock the time she was
making THE Rev. Mr. Soys there with me; he
went to the bed and took her the hard they spoke to
each other but does not recoect what they ssid
he spoke to her about religion but what his
don't know; we Immediately after knelt and went 10
prayer he knet between me AMI the bed; after pra
was over we both went away, having first snake hands
she called out and said Brother Trsv.rs wish YOU
to remain | have business with you;" don't know
whether Mr. seys had got into the entry the
IA hnrE ehA ~~.xI.
draw her or push her to the sofa does recosc that
she told witness that he put his hand round her neck or
hor waist or that he kissed her.
Here counsel for the objected to the course
OF the croslexamination.
=. WIrrn. Squire Graham, give Brother Whiting all
WIINn's in continuation-only went to prayers with
her when Brother seys was there.
Q-ls your wife a very tslkstive woran7
WirEEss-You had better ask our as, Qhbors
CouNsrL-l repeat the question.
Al deem her very discreet woman with respect to
oner peoples affairs, and that her character snons
our nsghoors The grand reason why reoue ted M,
Cram not to tell her. was that did not wis to pain her
the chnrcs and the scandal would bring on religion
from the lime OF the disclosure, down 10 me time II wa
Crsm. hou,. on tamno %.A. have cs.d at Mrs
times; Mrs Cram went in the latter part of October in
company with her Au.bsnd and with my wife ano
other ladies' 10 Niblos; never met her in the strset
night; lectured Tor Mr. Ssys on the 9th OF Novembar,
was before this she made the disclosure. never said TO
any one that MI Ssys 81 enced the pu woulo
be mine rr'' "NN''
LAsAs CHENEY examined by the pnrHrcr Arrosrt,
Wines had charge Of Bedford street churc two
previous TO last Mays knows Mrs Cram; first her H.
the winter Of ls4o at the altar of the Bedford street
charcni hsr character was good OF that time far
Crcsseraminsd.-she made no references and mad.
no enquriss entered her the books in the
EDWARD CLAEx-Knows Mrs. Cram since 1920; never
heard thing dsrespectful OF her
CrssstTamtned -She never visited witnesss family,
nsr husband u member OF the American Institute.
JAMES IRWIN, examined by CLiS1or-Knows Mrs Cram
LOT seventeen years and never heard any thing against
her up TO the present time.
Mis- HErRIErrA CHUN-Knsws Mrs Cram fourteen
years ana never heard anything against her; witness
boarded in the family when she lived in the country
Mrs. DiMoND, examined-knows Mrs. Cram about
seventeen years. first in Ssugerties and then in New
york; visited her in New York, and has never heard
anything against her until this time.
Mrs. MARoARET Mckay, examined-Knows Mrs Cram
ior eleven years except some time she was in New Or
leans; never heard anything against her character
DAvp Mckay cxamned-Knows her since 1885, ex
cept while she was in New Orleans and never heard
anything against her character,
DosIoR sANckER examined by the DrsrnIcr AKRON.
rErTo shew that from the Of her complaint that
% OF me facts proved against her could not be true
me case Tor the prosecution here rested
JUSTICE koohK was recalled the part ofbe Defence
Mr. Sevs NJ ssr Cram made the complaint against
IL; 'eyr VT cram went there and requested the CON
plant TO be Withdrawing the Court would NOT nermit the
witness to be examined ' Pei'"'' "'
h.- az ~, SahsnsLEn examined by WHrrrSo-Is mem.
.ne rev DR. iravers say that il Mr. Sew was sencsd
nave rght 10 the church. no one could nre, nj
nm hesrd MN say so to Mr.. VendermaIk and that
her me sshop or the presiding elder could pTevent
MN until the conference settled H. ~ f''''"'
The case for the defence closed her.
counsel Tor the prosecution the Cour, to "a
thIee witnesses otter the sitting of the Conrt This
morning, winch he assured his honor wouH moi take
more than hiteen minutes. The Court then adournsd
y probable no more witnesses will be examined and
ua' couhsoi Will commence summing up this morning
INDIANS TX IEIAs.-We learn from MIR. Torrev.
mat delegations of various Indian tribes a,sebled
AZ ms tracing house, the 2Sd ult 10 the nnmber o
Tooo or aoov Several OF the chiefs of the ommanches
keeohes Wacoes Towacosnoes and other ANAL ,ribss
were present. large quantity Of presents ,wn,s ds
h.r 10 they went awayhighy pleased with
present The latter was detained by ,icEnss d ~"
was on the western frontier having just returned
hd ,oray n,o me Mexican settlements in which he
peen remarkably successful His warriors nat with
u ;u opposition and ravagsd the country in ali direc
uop u win perfect IMMUNITY They returned laden with
W tbair