New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-09-04
sEW-YORK CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION
FOURTEENTH wEEK-LXXVIIiTH DAY.
The Conyention-Getting New Light between
Sun and Sun-A Radical Change.
ALsAxY. Wednesday, sept. :, 1876.

8LBAST, Wednesday, sept u scro.
To the Edaor If Tie Tri1ame
SIR; Sir. Nicoll, this morning. introduced reso-
luton the object OF which 70 lin; The judicA! pow
er TO the respective districts in which The judges might
be chosen. He could conceive plan more Gan
gerous to representative government than popular cleo
,on by Single Districts.
Tie Contention IIlo,ls RoVHd.
Alter nearly weeks OF deliberate consideration the
Members Of this grca, Convention came 10 deliberate
vote le., night 60 70 a. favor Of giving the people
and no, 10 the leaders and pullcrs OF any party
tho mower to cleo; the judges. This power given
TOO in ucil way as they could discreety by
single senate Districts.
10 me his was unexpected knew that Mr. Murphy
who made the motion had not preferred the mode OF
aeecuon-tat 1t contrary 10 the report % the IN
dietary Comlntcc-and that the party leaders in the
majority decidedly opposed 20 i,-quitc much
a. Sir Van Buren, or Nj Wright 70 cnirust the
people with the election OF their Justices oil the Peace
Bat heard the argument "a" the vote and coud not
avoid expression OF satisfaction at 80 triumphant; Il
proof of real trust confidence and esteem IN the worth
intelligence and patriotism OF the millions
Al was holo"-a.l insincerc The majority OF II lart
night by the power OF party machinery reduced 70
lniscrab" minority of only II 10 day. and many OF th
men who for single senate Districts on Tuesday
nol,, had become warm admirers OF the old large
Districts wc have convenient tor managing TIC
electors by caucuscs and conventions Messrs Murphy
and Bergen who had voted dead against single senate
Districts for Senators July protested violent admir-
alton f. them IN september suitable Tor the election
of Judgcs-but the vote carried What was 10 be done
Mr. Swackhaner got up this morning and made strong
appeal the Convention against single Districts and IN
OF the large old Districts AS the best tor the cleo
ton Of JudgesMr Brown led the Regency forces, and
moved recon -idcraton eversa OF last nights vote
-Swackhamer voted 10 reversc-but when nc found
tina. there were enough turned round without him he
wheeled back into the ranks OF the Single Senate Dis
trict minority in conformity with his vote last night
and in tue teeth OF his speech and hrt vote today
Mr Bergen voted last night for electng the Judges by
Single Senate Districts When the vote was 10 be taken
to-day on reversing that he did wheel round.
like Mr.. Swackhamcr-hc became invisible. Mr. Cnani-
berlain and Mr.. OConOr were opposed 10 single DIS.
trics but when the question came up again they voted
lei the matter stand and 20 on with the puoc Dusl
ness Mr. Kingsley, Of Onondaga, bunker, belleyc)
voted last night tor election by Single Senate Districts
but Today he had received light and made his mad
en- speech for the monster District system Mr. Perkins
was in his place the moment this question was disposed
oi-perhaps he making up his mind. Messrs. stow
and Rhosdes voted against the Single District system
last night but supported 1t this morning. When 1t ia
cd Mr. stow voted against the monster Districts and
Mr. Rhoades for them Bad they are they are rather
better than election by general ticket or appointment
by the Senate To be frank with you, however. con-
sdcred the vote or them vote OF want oil confidence
IN the electors, but may be wrong
This afternoon the vote was taken on Mr. Brown
proposal for the eight large Districts and decided IN the
affirmative 60 to L. many voting tor them a. the least
Of two evils including every official under the General
Government, but one.
The twelfth section as amended and adopted, IS as
follows:
S2 The Justices Supreme Court shall be elected
III the respective Judicial DISTRICTS by The electors thereof
Of Oh lime as may provided by law But first cleo
ton OF such Justices after the adoption Of this Constitution
shall be held al least days before the general annual
Election Of the year 1871"
think the vote was IS Ayes to ~ Noes
Mr. Brown proposing a batch OF Assistant judges,
like the VccC hanceilors this afternoon and expect
the party will load down the new Constitution as to
make of a-copper question whether II Is worth
having DR. Johnson says that much may be made OF a
Scotcbman if caught Young but this Mr. Brown sad
exception 10 the Doctors maxim. He is keen Tor the
spos as the sharpcst Northeaster of Newfoundland.
Hoir staiL tic Judges BE- appointed
Mr. BnowN rose this morning with view 10 upset
the vote o. last night He succeeded Alter few com
monplace remarks he said that II the Judiciary Col-
mittec had imagined that the Convention would allow
the people elect the Judges IN Single senate Districts
they would not have attached general jurisdiction 10
their Offices lie well aware that election by
general ticket which his choice. would throw the
election OF the whole OF the B2) Judges into the hands
OF ono OF the great parties III the state lie desired
to see them elected tree OF party II had been said 10
him that III the absence OF Judge RugSles he went TOO
far in stating that he preferred election (oi al tho 81
by general ticket, or il that failed selection by me
Governor Having failed he humhy asked the house TO
reconsider Chat is or annuD their vote IN favor
OF (2) Single Senate Districts and he would now pc VII
hing TO accept OF and for elections 10 take place IL
eight large districts.
THAT to say he wanted those OF his party who had
voted that having confidence in the people they would
PERMIT said people vote each cector for the Judge
cao7 he kue in Single Senate District 10 turn round
and that and place the election in the hands
of trading politicians. by making but eight voting DIS
tricts out OF - counties, that i'll some cases the dis
trict vii! be 200 miles and upward in length. Each
Ecc,or for four Judges and the party politicians
in caucus or convention 10 make The nomination or
dictate the candidates.
Mr. T1lprN Ii they had been elected Tor the last -
years. ~ being the number II would have been on one
side and 20 ON the other.
MIR R1cuNoNp Single Districts were intended to
prevent candidates in Judicial District from combining
together push forward men for the judicial ONCE whom
the People would elect If set up by themselves II
well known, that by the mammoth district system
the managers could smusec III bad Judge from
/ whom the people would ;urn away, by coupling his
name al the nominating Convention with three others
deserving the public confidence. Make the districts very
large like presents districts ana editorials IN news
papers Interested party paragraphs and puts VIII be the
chief guide OF the distant Single Districts Wi! cN-
hibt the wisdom intelligence and sasac!ty oil the REQ
Pile when making choice OF Judge known to them
Large Districts will often result IN the choice OF unht
men aud the people and the elective system Will bc
blamed though they had share in the nominations.
SIR kIKxLANp had voted Tor the Single District stem
OF rec;nc the best mode because saucuss ana con
yen,ious We're often the result OF local and party IN.
trir,,s and management d would continue 70 be.
II WAS political death 10 politician to exercise an inoe'
pendent Judgment variance from the party IN cleo
lions Imeanins in very large districts the people have
nothing 10 do but vot,the party caucus nsascrs as
semble for day, hour ana unite IN dic'ahS me
persons he chosen There could be no doubt what,
but that the electoral body OF this State was wei
qualified choose the Judges and that 10 enable hei
10 do in single Senate Districts would be TO enable
them 10 make the better choice--it would orine Tie
election nearer them. Who was there really snoT-
ant that the best mode of election was thai mode by
means oi which the eec,or who votes knows whom he
votes oi lave We not admitted that BY adopting SnSe
Districts at the reques, OF the people in which 10 elect
Senators Is II less when elccting Judges Have we
moi, the old large Senate Districts been TOO call
cd 10 vote tor men OF whom knew nothing, snd
shall perpeuste the evil in the case of judicial cleo
| tons
Gen TAIlNApGy had been taught in the early part
of the session that there principle SO dea- 10
Democracy 10 bring the Election Districts as
poss sle 70 the people Members 0: the Convention OF
Sol festhcre6 their nests well by the distribution OF the
offices their lsbor had created Ii might be weio pre-
ven, renewal of these by making Members OF
this Convention ineligible 10 the places they had cEes
he'd for few years \ Judge had resigned ONCE as Il
were tonight and been appointed l. 3 Senator toEor
row. The Single District System would breven, oaa
from being snugglcd TO sesi on ine semen ioF
wears hy Tho craft and cunning OF party movements