The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-01-04

House or Representatives.


= Ewrse. Of Tennessee, elected in place of DR..
ed by Mr.. Milton Brown. He took the oath aud his
seat lie is sm, tall man. slightly stoop- houldered,
tna appears 10 De man OF energy and intellect lie u
Mr.. cuSNrScHsm of Ohio. introduced series of reso
uiions declaring right to the whole Of Oegon-that
the negotiations having failed should pursued no fur
ther' &c To consider these resolutions, he moved
suspension Of the rules.
Upon this, the yeas and nays ordered AID deci
jed IN the negative-yeas u.s. nays SO. This consi
iered as test vote the question of peace and war;
though strictly John Quincy Adams voted in the
affirmative.
Mr. DAVIS. of Ky. moved to refer the Oregon bill by
Mr Douglass, from the Committee Territories, by
sections, TO the several standing committees of the
House This was voted down.
Mr. RarHBrN, OF New York moved reconsideration
ofihe by which the House referred the purchase of
the tenth volume of the United Laws 10 the Judi
nsry Committee This gave rise TO long controversy
about the claims oftwo rival publishers Little Brown
aud GIDEON Co. Alter some time the pre- vious q ues.
non was moved upon which the House refused TO
Reports were then called from various committees
several reports on private claims, with number of bills
The Committee on Military by its chairman, Mr.. Ia
rnon, OF Ca, brought in bill for the raising of tive
ana upon this very interesting debate sprung up.
ME- DOUGLASS said that If his bill should pass
tnis Rouse which he would not suppose possible still
ms ol was necessary Tor the protection oil emgrsnts
Oregon and Texas.
MI HousroS. Of Ala, made some explanation, and
raised some objections which seemed be opposition
to The western war spirit
Mr DOUGLASS said ne was afraid there some game
oeiog play here to srangle the Oregon when
me western men had supported the Texs bill last
Mr. HousroS explained He did not oppose the Oregon
movement. -
Mr. DorotA.s believed that seine men were shrinking
from this question: with whom the (the Wes had bold
ly met the Texas question Texas was the drst aues
.om OF the session, let Oregon be the second
MI =. j. isaER:oLL made some allusion to the ques.
oh before the House. from which 1t undo rstood
that the Committee Foreign Relations would not
port blii for the termination Of the joint occupancy
nj hok ,rrrkN that
question into his bill There was no fear expressed Of
war. when the Texas bill up last session why hes
would night she was not afraid Of her possessions in
nn, sas would 60 to war with us immediately il
frontier. when he took his seat
s sa HOLMES said he was deeply alarmed about
passes the object Of some gentlemen will he accomplsh
cd, ard we shall be at war with England He would no;
back out OF the war; but It must, if the bill should
for Defence before the bill giving notice OF the termna
''U Mr o. 3o'nt occupancy should pass.
Mr. HOLMES took his seat
Here Old QUINCY ADAMS took the floor and the mem.
oeis crowded or nestled around his wings like chickens
round the parent bird As Mr. Adams speaks but feeby
now slmos. impossible to hear him at the report
es desk and therefore give his remarks together
with the remainder of the debate on this question az
Furnished in the Union -
MR ADAMS sa d he perhaps ought to make an apology
10 ene rouse Tor addressing them at all the question
rsnSe 1em the state Of his heath being such to
important question which presented to their
sdera'on He understood the question now before the
on Military Affairs, for the raising two regiments Of
should be made the special order of this House
LOT next uesday and he inquired Of the Speaker if this
was not the
The srGAkEn replied that that branch of the
able The question of referring the bill the Committee
OF me Whoie on the state Of the Union also before
the House: and that was debaable
Mr.. ADAMS lis the question whether the bill shall be
referred at all
The SPEAKER restated that there were two questions
pending-one on referring TO the Committee Of the
on the state oil the Union and the other making
Ma. ApAMs.-Then ask that the question be divided,
and that the question first be taken referring the sub
Ject to the Commute of the Whole the state of the
Union He desired this, because he presumed there
would be no diversity OF opinion in the House upon that
SUBJECT III there would entirely change the state
of the argument and debate here He asked that the
question be irst taken on the question Of reference
Mr. HousroN (Mr. A. still retaining the noor) remark
ed that ne believed he had made the objection originally
but was not to the reference but to the setting apart
The srsAxnx stated that the branch of the question
which proposed the ference 10 the Committee Of the
Whole on the state Of the Union it competent for
majority Of the House Determined but the other branch
which proposed to make it a special order, would re-
quirc q vote Of two-thirds.
Mn. ADAMS still retaining the floor,
Mr.. HARRISON wished to know if the gentleman from
Massachusetts had closed his remarks.
The SrEAxER replied that the gentleman still retained
MIR ADAMS requested that the question be first taken
on the reference because the House refused that he
Mr. HAnALsoN objected to that question being taken
as would preclude all deeate-the other branch of the
question not being debateable.
MIR. ADAMs-Then l withdraw my motion for the
present.
The srEAKER.-The gentleman can demand a division
0i the question and that division will be made when the
question is taken.
MIR. ADAMS Then suppose am now at liberty to
debate whether or not the question shall be made the
order .i Of the House for Tuesday.
ndn ia hiCh
prescnbes that all questions relating to the priority Of
business shall be decided without debate :; but the
question to refer to the Committee of the Whole the
state OF the Union is debaeable and opens up the
whole question.
Mr. WILL then, at the risk of being arrested
LOT ireievancy-sometimes a very favorite mode OF
stopping debate make my argument altogether
the question OF making this special order, while in
encc This proposed to be referred to the
Committee OF the Whole on the state Of the Union,
all of them as important as any which have ever
come sr ever will come, before this House. It is
to speak without having special reference to oil the
others connected For example, this measure is,
nd o lot raining ahs two regi"sls' Of rasmen
roduced into another part Of this building to provide
Tor raising regiment Of mounted Iifemen The ques-
ton has occurred to my mind how these two measures
go together and whether they could not and ought not
10 be considered together The decision Of the
the other Is decided. mention this simply by way of
illustration Of variety Of connected with this
now under consideration in another part Of this build
ing' clause which proposes to appropriate sum Of
=. thousand dollars ito defrsy the expenses Of
any military defeDces which the President may deem
necessary on the line Of communication with Oregon"
Now IS very evident that the importance OF that
on depends on the sum OF money to be appropriated and
be placed in the hands Of the President for the expen
e OF military preparations which the President may
deem necessary All that infer from that is from the
passage OF the bill-if any passh is contemplated that
there will be other expenses-and in my opinion they
Will be very great expenses-as concurrent
with that measure Of raising regiment Of mounted rife
men, Now this is not the only measure which will be
necessary, ell in connection with this subject 1t
appears TO me very doubtful whether is necessary at
all TO waste the time OF this House in the discussion OF
the question, whether two regiments Of rifemen shall be
raised or not unless the necessity for raising these reg
ments shall be made appar 10 the House Whyl Why