New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-08-31
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The New-Yorl Observer.
Those who have watched the progress Of the OBJ
servers attacks the Associationists will doubt
less be gratificd to learn that the Editor proposes
soon to open his budget Of objections to the Indus
trial Organization and kindred Reforms which the
Associationists really do profess after having de
voted some weeks 10 charging upon them projects
aud principles which they utterly rcpudate and
condemn The Observers reason for not doing this
already are thus stated
we should have reached this point long ago il we
had been diverted By the pursued by the Fou
rieres in their defence. First they denied the facts
charged then produced the passages in proof Next
they denied the fairness OF our quotations then we gave
whole chapters and demanded reference whole books
They replied that they had never the books o.
and so we have driven them from falsehood TO
other until they huvc been compelled appear before
the public with new creed and confession. which they
must stand by, nj least Till this discussion is finished
We make no reply to this. We quote it simply
tina, those who have read what has actually been
offered through The Tribune in reply to the Obser
yers attacks may make their own comments and
NAV. from the character OF the above statements
Judge what reliance may be placed on the Obser-
vers assertions on points with which they are less
familiar.
y single illustration more of the candor OF the
Observer and we leave this part OF the subject a
small band of working mechanics and other poor
men of our City who had read something OF Asso-
citation through The Tribune, and Mr. Brisbane
pamphlets but not one OF whom had probably ever
seen any thing else of Fourier's system or a sin
gle one ofhis complete works, drew together IN the
winter of 1923 and undertook trial OF Practical
Association, with such means. capacities and OPP
,I, bol SEaJt of
The Tribune to act as their Treasurer which lie
did faithfully and seriously to his loss to the end
Every other prominent Assocatonlst refused to
give any countcnance TO the experiment from
positive conviction that 1t must certainly fail and.
with all imperfect experiments, could have no 9th
er effect than 70 diSsipate the OF those who
had too little at best and enable Courcrs Express
es and Observers 10 excam and induce the icno-
rant and thouchtless 10 believe that Association
had been tried, and had failed The writer of
this however resolved TO give this experiment
however hopeless, what assistance he could, and
did 1t that the preamble OF its Con
sttution declared that, while the members OF tins
Sylvania Phalanx reject nothing OF Fouriers teach
ines they proposed to work out The problem OF In
dustriu Organization aud an equitable Division OF
.
the study and application of the more metaphysical
and speculative parts OF Fouriers doctrine" At
this time as we have already plainly stated not
one OF them, probably, had ever heard that any
such views respecting Marriage as the Observer
trumps up had ever been even attributed TO Fou-
rier. No matter the Observer holds them bound
by their statement tina, they dad not reject specua-
tons which they had never found time 10 exam
inc. not only to endorse and sustain all that il at
tributes 70 Fourier but their Treasurer who does
no, remember that he a word OF all tins
until it wSs published, is held responsible to the
same extent and in the same fashion II this is
Religion and Honesty, wha, would be Profeacy
! and Knavey!
Bat the Observer though IT has promised to be
take itself TO the discussion OF the real question IS
sue, maniests thorough disinchnasion to any such
course 1t closes this week with INDIGESTION OF
its purpose embark in ioray on the private char
scters OF the AsSociationis,s instead. Assuming
that paragraph in the Harbnger gives provoca
non i, says
When we come to the matter OF private character
should md il eNpedent 10 DO so then wish the
Fourcrcs remember thst ihy tsritsd this Gamma
zion. TGs not oar design ~ ne commencement q thi>
discussion clide any iadriGGls shy press butte
expose the principles OF the most dangerous and j.
ccn;ous that French !n:dey and depraviIy
devised 10 waste the morals ard blast the happiness
man We intended 70 60 through with this work with
out regard TO individuals but the moment the discus.
sion WAS conllen ced, the Fourier organ IN this city
claimed exposure matter OF personal hostility,
and sought change the public indignation against lis
philosophy into sympathy for Itself! Tsus ge hare been
airerts Tcr Ae original Dla. We had 'nS1ked out and
the Brook Farm phalsrx charge that their Uppo-
nentS pyate OF morality up their intsIny
il DC for TO look the
may have thrust the beam out OF our own eye. that
may clearly take OF theirs
This dealing with private character not very pleas
81, operation but gentlemen who nhso;, edlhces
sructed o! glsss should ~ careful how they project
rocks
Now i; is no object 10 prove this Observer man
liar once more or less. but surely readers
not have forgotten that he commenced this scenes OF
attacks On the Associasionists with the following
sweeping elimination
IAsSe 'eosmsHity cagnoi bear TIE :dea Of day
@s ossses" iAn eEa ;se grG;.seGor Of Their paSsicz$
bring the world their system v,her m, pr,rr,r
sa Inc women are 10 bcloaS 20 no one man uore than
Snetaer We oEdsr as draid Of cri!s,lon a.;s II,
G'Es ana corfs Of ss;'t They haze ,as sane isin.ts,
crsea 2f Ssfes itG tse had ucio js. Of AS rscS
ssssTerer he passed sd Of hss2 obscrver June e6,h
! Yet, in the face OF this styocious charge. be
would have his headers now believe that he care
fully avoided a personal inputssions unsil provoked
by sn article several weeks after this in The Har
binger Is the man utterly lost to shame
But the edct has gone forth Instead Of a
calm discussion OF the fish,tul evils which deforu
Society and the feasibility and effectiveness OF the