Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1846-07-18
CONGRESSIONAL.
In SENATE-JuLY Is, 1916.
DUFFY ON RAW coPPER

w. Revere and others, of Boston, and Messrs Hendrck
Croher and others Of New York. view Of the proposed
duty Of five per cent "copper" praying that may con-
nue TO be admitted free Of duty else that duty may be
laid upor manufactured copper copper sheathing &c.
Mr. W. also took occasion to that with view of pa
cling in very short and compass his testimony
Of what would be the product Of this tariff BILL he would
tomorrow make statement the Senate upon that subject
in writing. ss-l l8#N sZf8
Mr. w. asked that the memorial which he had presented
be printed. 8ss8N
Mr.. SEWER moved its reference to the Committee on
Printing Ordering the printing Of petitions and memorials
on special notion was practice which ought he said to be
Mr.. WEBSTER said il appeared to him very exrsordina-
that objection should hc made the printing Of this
rial IL very short one, and related important
subject The memorialists showed that there provision
the bill before that body which calculated TO break
up their business, and to turn them of empoyment The
Senate had refused allow subject to considered v
any committee and they refused 10 print document
which calculated to give them information He put to
the Senate he put to the candor Of the gentleman him
self 70 say whether he desired such rigorous proceeding
Was he disposed balance the few dollars which the printing
would cost against the qualification those gentlemen
from knowing that the representations which they had made
and the facts and statements which they had produced and
with which he certainly thought Senators ought to be made
acquainted put fairly the possession Of the Senate
Mr.. SEWER said he had something of the practice
which prevailed whenever public brought
before the Senate he had noticed that there generally
sereotyped petition got up and sent here be printed
the purpose Of influencing Senators and raising panic the
country and he had morning after morning consumed
this there standing rule of the Senate which required
that petitions Of this kind should be referred Committee
on Printing If petitions like this to be exempt from
the rule, they would very be overwhelmed with them
they would have petitions upon every item in the tariff bill
petitions got up for the purpose Of showing that the whole
country ruined, and that the bill directed expressly
against each mans particular establishment There would be
end to the petitions which would he poured upon them,
from this time until the bill finally disposed Of from all
classes Of business men, asking Congress protect their par
cuar interests He this practice and without
tIntont tho No
petition he referred to the Committee Printing N
Mr.WEBSTER said the honorable Senator from Arkansas
must entertain very favorable opinion Of his BILL indeed if
nc thought was one as ne said he did, which would prove
detrimental the operations of every workshop in the country
Mr.. SEWER said 1t would be represented; and
it would be in regard to any bill.
Mr. WEBSTER said he had doubt Ii very true
he thought the gentleman had very correctly stated the effect
Of his BILL and he supposed that those who suffer
would rather die if they must, showing game; would
rather have opportunity of showing that they had
skill in discerning their interest and their Government
being popular representative ons they chose the
right of presenting memorials affecting their interests, and
thought that they had right expect from the Government
respectful attention 10 these memorials.
How they to be considered How they to have
their effect He desired that the Secretary should read the
rule relating the printing Of such documents for he had
wish to make motion that would be contrary rule Of
the Senate The Secretary then read the rule question:
which directs the reference the Committee Printing
all questions for printing Of documents with excep-
| toms Mr.. W. proceeded. The rule seemed apply to
this and therefore, if the Senator persisted in his opposi
ton to the motion and in enforcing the rule was course
| in his power 10 do
that the Senate had refused TO refer the tariff bill commit
tee for examination. He begged call the attention Of the
Senate to the why that reference not made which
was, that the committee incomplete and that there
equal division of that committee but the honorable Sena-
tor from Massachusetts disclosed yesterday still stronger
which showed that there necessity for the refer
OF the bill at all and that was that he would
examine the details of the bill that he would neither
propose favor proposition for amendment because his
objections went to the fundamental principle of the bill itself
that his objections the bill strong that would not
look into the details Well what there in that
for the committee to do if the bill referred, order
crafty the Senator but report the fact which every Sena-
tor already knew that the bill founded upon that obec
onabe prncplehe ad vaorem duties instead Of specific
duties That was ALL But the Senator seemed to think
that there greaimproprety-a manifest njusce-done
in regard TO this bill by referring it committee,
stead OF allowing it to take the ordinary
Messrs. BAGBY and WEBSTER here simultaneously
and the former first recognised the Presiding Officer
Mr.. WEBSTER then said he desired opportunity of
replying to the remarks Of the Senator from Ohio, (Mr
ALLES)
Mr. BAGBY said he would allow the Senator an oppor-
unity with very great pleasure, only that he MR. regard
ed the discussion entirely irrelevant and about call
| the Senator from Ohio to order. sf II
Mr. b. then presented Jehe Brooks late
Indian agent praying ndemnicaon for expenses incurred
the preservation Of public property the Red river which
| was referred to the Committee of Claims.
Mr.. WEBSTER. Am precuded from replying
| The PRESIDING OFFICER There is nothing before
the Senate.
| Mr. WEBSTER. There ,oas nothing before il.
Mr. SPEGHT then moved that leave be granted the Sem
| ator TO proceed.
Mr. WEBSTER, (resuming his seat) Oh, it's of no
| sequence. t
MIR. X. JOHNSON then presented the memorial Of VIM.
Wilson Sons and other citizens Of Baltimore, Maryland,
engaged the manufacture Of copper and trading in that ar
ce praying that copper may remain free Of duty that
manufactured copper may be subject duty corresponding
with that which proposed by the bin for reducing the
duty imports TO levy the material which
erred to the Printing Committee.
Mr.. WEBSTER again and said / think, Mr.. Presi-
dent am in order Sir, the honorable uember from
Ohio has undertaken assign why this BILL which
proposes such important change the laws should
not have been referred committee. In the first place. he
says, the committee known be equally dvded-sd-
vded" upon what Divided" suppose, upon the gene
does the honorable gentleman say that the committee
had been canvassed and found to be equally divided
upon every item Of this bill throughouupon every question
Of the amount of duty between the twenty twenty and
thirty per cent What is the Of committee To ar
range details where the principle has established and
they equally divided upon the main principle
honorable gentleman suppose follows that argument
illustration, facts to be sdduced in the discussion could
make three Of them agree upon any alteration Of the bill
particular Is that his view But again. the committee is
said TO be incomplete Why the place the gentleman
who, am happy to has since rcuedcoud have been
filed II offered to be done desired that should
be DONE glad that the honorable gentleman has
turned, and wish the bill was before the committee But
the gentleman from Ohio has another de says