The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-04-01

y true this door all the members were perfect
and the distinguished reputation which the Senator
from Massachusetts, enjoys and the high position which
he occupies in the Judgment of the country make what
he says this door Of much more Importance than If
the same remarks had fallen from other Senators Of the
the hrs time taken his position upon the Oregon ques-
ton In this body as that question now stood He had
not only done ths but he had taken extra In
guarding against any possible missatement msinor
probation OF his remarks precaution not necessary
aid the Senator in the exposition Of his views but still
guarded by the precaHton of elaborate notea In this
view there was solemnty in the form in which the
Senator had offered his opinions which when
remarks character ofgreat importance to the country
There three important points suggested in the
United States had committed material mistake in re-
ference TO the Oregon question: in assuming that the
esuonable anu in perssting in this assumpt;on
with his Recommendation TO the passaRe of the notice
the senator thinks that the President has thus smbar-
ressed the questions and that therefore, any RESPONSE
biy which may result from the OF this
policy will fall upon the President of the United States
and net upon Congress- but that no. and he alone will
be held responsible to the American people All the
dncues that may ensue are to be traced back him
This was the first occasion in which Mr.. Allen had
heard Of the ascrbed the President in tina
course he had pursued in this business Tbis was one
OF the points Another point il OF the greatest
importance-was, that public opinion in the United
states and IN Great Britain was concentrating TO Ak
6red mode assumed as the basis for the adjustment not
the arbitrary line OF fory.nin but the proposition sub
that line by which al the advantages of the terrory
for national purposes, were yielded up, including the
navigation Of tho Columbia, to Great Britain Mr.
Allen. on the contrary beloved that under no cir
cumsances would the United States conceds tho per;
CATION OF the Columbia river Public opinion according
TO the senator IRON Massachusetts, was conyergen 4,
that pcnt-tho proposition OF 1896. We all understand
what meant This singular presents itssit 70 ibe
world AZ the beginning of the session stsrtsd out
with the assumption Of tile the whole Of Oregon
at the end of three months found recedinx 10
falling back south Of thet line At this ratio OF "a
gisdation by evary rule of Legislative progression
Dquishing the whole territory in order 10 get clear Of
war Now, MIR. Allen conceived it to he clear that
the President bad not committed in declaring
extent OF our title The error through this whole de
bate, was that Great Britain had just claim por-
ton of the territory Had the notice been passed at the
first week OF the session. the Oregon question would
have been settled without drop OF blood being she'd
and settled satisfactorily But after the Senate has fall
tered thus far and after three month"; delay Senators
indicate purpose of falling back upon tho Columbia
that it will be regarded by Great Britain as an
invitation to claim the whole 4? Every inch Of
fight. when England sees us thus divided in our
councs-when she sees that distrust the position
and the good faith of the President she sees that
wa have wasted three months in delay what reason Is
there to anticipate speedy ard satisfactory arrange.
Inent consistent with rights Another fact in he
remarks Of the Senator Massachusetts was that
IN order t. give public opinion chance settle down
expedient to drop this business for another That
is, suppose that should postpone the resolutions
until the arrival OF the next steamer. that may be
informed whether Queen Victoria has pouted at us or
that we may be informed whether the British govern
ment is pleased at our doings here This would be
sort OF national humiliation to which, with my vote we
shall never submit 1t is time are acting like men
upon our just rights by acting fearlessIy and indie
pleased or not The extraordinary precaution and
solemnity q the Senator from Massachusetts as OK.
hioed in his remarks indicated that there was trouble
ahead And If war shall come, it will be attributed TO
the Senate its hesitation, the division in its counsels
quires. Mr. Allen said he should not further trespass
upon the time OF the Senate and proposed the resumption
Mr. wKssrxn. in reply to Mr. Allen. said that hi, OBJ
servaions had been made from premeditated ecson
was proper that he did from the importance ola
question respecting the intercourse OF nations and con-
sldsring the exigency between the two natous is of
the greatest to be precise in statements
ana ne really did not see that would have been far
out of the way had other used the same pre-
caution Naughter) The gentleman seems to insist
that the course have suggested will regarded as hu-
initiating part fancy not sir / am quite as
spprshensive that the pout Queen the
OF the British government. will be likely to az
feet this side Of the chamber than other The sena
tor assumes That propose to concede the Colombia
not speak orscularly cathedra but in my opn-
ion stated and rel crate that public opinion in both
nner OF 1920 would ask if the gentleman does not
think so himself
Mr.. ALLEN-Not at all, sir
Mr.. WEBsrER-Does not the Senator believe that |
PUBIC Op'mon s setting III, upon the basis Of
Ting upon forty nine upon any other line short Of
the Russian boundary. (Lsughterj When the Senator
speak. OF the proposition of 1896 he refers PROPOSE
bia river.
Mr. WEBSTER said that the Senator was wide of the
truth IN this opinion What he, Mr. W., had said, was
that the line Of should be the or
the general basis of that line MIR Webster further ex
the Columbia straits nlets and soforh this connec-
ton we're all properly subject. of collation. But he
expect any thing South Of 49, He might be mistaken.
but It did appear to him clsar the MONDAY
would stand by the Offer Of isss Mr. Wsser ef1rad
70 tne opinions OF the Senator from North Carolina r
Hsywood) and Of the Senator from Georgia, (Mr Col.
quit ana others on the democratic side He repeated
That he was Of opinion that tn matter mus. be settled
upon the 4e!b parallel, end the rights certain shra
and that England boundary cano. expect any thing
soath Of the 18th degree and that public opnionn both
countries IS prepared to accede to iortynne. AT the
close Of Mr. Webster's remarks there was n general
fustliag amongst he crowd in the galleries movement
which had prevailed
Mr. j NJ CLArroS could not be distinctly heard. A /
understood tho offer MIS- resolution for tho latest cor
respondence, had no relation at ali 10 his decision upon
TIE notice In any event, no prepared to vote for
vantages Of the treaties Of ISIS and 1877 We could
never make out title to any portion OF the territory
while this joint occupation existed, whatever might be
the extent VI our emigration and settlements lie was
anxious to get rid Of the Convention Mr. Clayton then
explained the sort OF notice he preferred and that the
amendment OF the Senator from Mary land MIR John
scn holding back the discretion TIL the LIST OF June
met his appreciation. He desired word upon the re.
mark OF the Senator from Ohio that course of the
Senate was calculated to embarrass the President
Mr. ALLEr..Embarrass the ques ion-not the Presi-
Mr. CL.vIor would ask how it would embarrass tn,
question: II has been regularly under discussion from
It's beginning either this side of the house or the
other IL the Senator thinks it is embarrassed by not
immed,aseiy passing the notice then he is right but
ly the subject Of elaboration
The subject was here dropped by general assent, and
the senate resumed the special order Of the day
~ the resolutions for the twelve months notice. or
THE OREGON REVOLUTIONS
Mr. BARROW took the aoor and for near the space of
two hours entertained the Senate in strong fearless
and Independent speech He began by rating the sena
tor from Ohio(r Ailen) for his declaration the open
ing ~ the session that u 10 prepare the
hearts OF the people for war" And at that time Mr. b.
had serious approximations. But they had almost
entirely passed away. lie in favor OF a compro-
mise upon the basis Of the aoth degrehe opposed