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New York Constitutional Convention
SEVENTH DAY.


p,.hmond of Genesee-Rulea arc Useful
Zoe, and Salaries--Mr. Angel-Equnl
"'S" ALBANY, Monday, June sth, 1916
To h. Editor Of The Tribune;
SIR: The Convention was engaged today II the
farther consideration OF how bes, to divide, among
,n,.bla Standing Committees, the business OF
framing Constitution for this great State and, as
aeon as the Repor, of the Special Committee OF
ssvep,een came from the Printer, the Convention
resolved itself into Committee Of all its Members
. with Judge Ruggles in the Chair, 10 consider its
Is propositions.
Mr.. Jones explained, with reference 10 the pro-
posed Committee the Judiciary that the Select
Committee intended that the questions, with regard
TO the system 10 be pursued, the election or appoint
ment Of Judicial officers their duties &c. should be
in charge Of that Committee. Mr. Brown was salts
fed with this disposition, and would propose an
Amendment, making it more clear
( Mr. Richmond saw no one of the Resolutions
which clearly embraced The question Of the powers
exercised by the Legislature of lending the Credit
of,he State to Companies, interpretations and indi
viduals. He believed, as did many OF the citizens,
and many Members of the Convention, that the ex-
/ ;siing Constitution conferred such authority on
The Legislature had been exercised in this re-
spec and be proposed that the subject Of Loaning
the Moneys Credit of the State whether TO indi.
/ viduas or corporate bodies be referred to scpa
rate Standing Committee.
( Mr.. Simmons was OF opinion that the second re.
solution, on the powers and duties Of the Legisla.
;ure, included Mr.. Richmond question but might
| be subdividcd. 1t was a new constitution that
theyH;vere to frame and question for the Commit
tee 10 consider was whether the Legislature ought
to have such and such powers--to define its au-
tho;ity except to the matter expressly excepted
by the Committee, namely, public debt.
Mr. 0Conor would empower the Committee on
the third resolution consider the propriety OF i'm
posing and what restrictions on the action OF the
Legislature, making donations out OF the public
funds or loans on the credit of the State. These
amendments were, by Mr.. Rawley, declared TO be,
10 his Judgment unnecessary, because the terms of
the third resolution covered the whole ground, and
were strictly correct and proper.
Other members spoke, and the most opposite
opinions were offered but although it is priva-
ton to those who have happy homes, 10 be long
detained from them, and although few men are more
impatient than myself under the intcuon OF tedious
anraeaning harangues when delivered by vain
foolish prosers yet | was truly gratihed with the
exhibition of Skill talent ability and experience IN
dicaed by the language and manner with which
these opinions conscientiously supported; and
thereirom augur we'll of The Convention, and that
when the keystone is placed in the arch of the new
| Constitution it will be deservedly acceptable to the
/ people.
Mr. Brown thought that gentlemen would now
II of
| the Whole. in order that the committees might be
| properly appointed. They had been sent there to
prescribe the rights and duties OF the agents of the
people, perhaps for the next quarter of century.
Some thought that, except where it was forbidden,
\ by an express prohibition. the Legislature had
complete control in all cases and might take the
/ property Of their fellow citizens and bestow it
upon or lend it TO- foreign powers. and 10 corpora
Mons and individuals. 1t was time that separate
committee were appointed to consider this. Mr..
B.. also proposed 10 strike out constitution where
itoccurred in the fifteen resolves. and insert the
business OF the Convention"
4 As the framing of Constitution is the bust
ness OF the Convention" and as its members are to
consider what powers are hereatte. TO be conferred
[ on The Legislature and unrestricted except by the
| powers parted with to the Federal Government,
coud comprehend the necessity of several ofthe
) amendments.
They were well disposed of. however having
been sent to the printer 70 that their bearings will
\ Oewelunderstood and the Delegates have time al.
I SSed to examine them.
| Mr. Hoffman remarked that the Executive and
Judiciary are TO execute and administer the law, no
1 very great difficulty would exist in defining their
pO~ers-but that our Legislators have not merely
Performed legislative duties, but have taken the ad
illustrative department partly into their own
aands He wished it provided lha, the powers that
might not be directly and specifically granted to the
legislature might remain with the people. and not
as,esislative power in the mass. and then begin to
mike exceptions and restrictions on it, 10 protect
I bepeopc.
\ Mr. Tilden proposed TO amend the report of the
Committee OF II by providing for Standing Com.
Mil,ees and stating the specific duties they were to
PERFORM withou, naming the Constitution in each
/ resolution
Mr. Stetson though, the resolutions fully compre-
Aeasive-,hey were partly legislative and partly
Constitutional. He had supposed that pablo debt
Rss analogous to loanins the public credit.
Il NJ Richmond is, I believe, a Genesee farmer,
4 aac 'aikspaia and to the point farmer fashion,
mere Is no difficulty in hearing him, nor under
sanding what he wants TO be at. understand the;
A mas been In The Legislature occasionally, in years
+ Pa''-his politics are said TO be Wing but I see
very little OF the partisan about him. He goes for
e's" 10Y Inc rooiinsou, Of corruption, be it where
"IAs' ana 'os measures that would make farmers
ua every body elss who likes fair dealing prosper
S1s aao happy His manner is frank resou,e and
Ne' ne Is hale and hearty, rises when he has
10y ming 10 say, speaks to the purpose, bu, very
0''e' ana with more of ,erseness than some who are
a.o. ss1e.0as0i their orasoricd style He appears
.aa. although his constituents may give
"y sne'Fown money indonatons, no future Leeisla.
,''e shall assume the power 10 do ,h., f,r H. ;e
4se can proven, IT. ! saw by his remarks ,h,t he
~. ..a 'o' htle whose anendmen, was adopted so
,a aa a provided for committee to sion wbs, he
70 oe an improper and unnecessary a,suup,on
legislative power, to which he seem. a;san.ps -
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