The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-03-11


will give him and SO far his (Mr CO remarks were
CONCERNED the writer will 10 before the country
branded with libel and regards The SENATE ne VIII
60 before tie world branded as liar and peier oil the
Senate
Mr. CRirrxSpsS sustained the rcma,ks Of the Senator
from Georgia denied that there was the sngntest ioun,
dalton for and against the Senate and
sloquenly defended tho integrity OF the body indi.
vidnaly and collectively from tho sma lest bismsh OF
[Ths matter, for the time being at least was here
PETITIONS were presented by Messrs Allen, speisht
Breese. Evans Chalmers Dix, johnson, Of Md, Dckin-
SON. wes,cott. Ashley, Corwin, Phelps, and Lewis
number Of bills and reports were inrodu ,ed from
the standing committees.
And on motion OF Mr.. REvERDY JOHNSON, the Senate
resumed the oregon resolutions, and thereupon had
the
OREGON DEBArE cosrrsuEp.
Mr.. EVANS being entitled to the floor resumed the
debate on the consideration of the resolutions In rela
ton to the "nstice" to Great Britain tina subject OF
oregon 10 his opening remarks after referring TO the
subject matter in debate, he said obvious from
the discussion that had already taken place that there
was considerable variety Of opinion as to the ground
upon which they should dispose OF the question BE ma
tors from New York Illinois and Indiana had fall said
that they entitled the whole OF Oregon, and
that they should give the notice." and llow up to
o44o Others in favor of compromise and negot-
alton, with view TO adjust the matter There we're
very great aud many objections to the sug.
gested by both parties so long as they were left IN igno
whether the executive had authorised not
parties speak for him that floor Congress- in such
state Of things, should not commit itself to the
try They had H. however that the executive had alrea.
dy made proposition to settle line of boundaryIat ~
deg, but that was withdrawn. By that, howe YER
yond 20 and controversy having now arisen upon
this point somo Of the friends Of tina President wish
ssa saasS, ne upon this basis This Is the
executive, should Congress concur There is much
less objection to this than to the propositions which 60
up 70 % 40 But here they debating this matter
without any specific plan-any assurance 10 what
was intended to be done with the resolutions after they
should have passed them: The Senator from illinois
(hr Haunegap) considered they Dug to pass the no.
tce and go up to 81 40 at all hszards and the
time regarded the rssouon of the Senator from Geor
difference.
pass They tthe Senae) should DO careful before they
hastily egislaed such grave subject they OF ~h 10
consider what may be the result Of such hasty legisa-
uon and hesitate before they took step that would,
as America and Great Britrin The steps proposed
We're likely to lead to such results The Senators who
opposed his views, all admitted that bad results
likely to How from the passage Of the resolutions they
wonid not recommend it. Others say it would not be
justified, but under the conviction of "clear and
quesuonable utle TO pass the no ice. On the whole
then, wos it wise prudent rush. in this state OF
things. into an Incorporate of action so to
opinion prevailed II was still matter Of dispute
the extent OF jurisdiction, and Of title; and gentle.
der great restraints He (Mr Evans) well knew
the difficulties in which they stood, but should not
manner on the question They told and over
ana over again, from day to day, that thoir title
sit still The next thing they would be told was that
England had no rights at all there and it of
and rapacity such has marked her conduct
towards other nations He mir E) would not submit
any foreign nation that feel inclined dictate or
OeIeved a
sion, when the honor Of the nation involved in re-
lation to question of disputed title went in favor of
prompt and bold maintenance Of their rights. He main
tanned these views on the Northeastern boundary but
tho controversy here Of different character What
was the matter in dispute that agaed the country here
they were told II was about some thirteen degrees
oatitude in which nine ourishing States could
be established. Was this to plunge them into war 1t
would be preposterous The real question involved but
90 600 square miles Of sterile country which would
not be July peoped and occupied fol sixty years TO
come; and was this TO bring about collision itwould
me- oti.
alton had not terminated last Aug the ssn ould
have been settled The navigation of the Coum.
Ola, an unnavgable river he believed il be,
was made the subject, the basis of a controversy on
which they had hea so many speeches. This the
sort OF dispute that was to involve their country
all the horrors OF war. But England did not demand
exclusive nigh, to this territory she only demanded
there, IN common with our 81 izens was the great
highway OF al nations and oil may occupy it, this
her posiion Up u the Oregon question. He kne~ the
position 10 which III. placed on this gu eson
On The on hard, it vas held by portion that they
were regardless OF the rights Of their country those
dd not tsss up extreme views and 60 tor 50 40 Indeed
they had been sufficiently admonished this by the
proceedings IN The Early part Of the gay in relation
certsn vesscous prnt and It's rd;.c On hand
they wee 20 quad the interests oil the country snd
,sct ~ ON the peili' e wer Senators would act
queslion-they ~oui exercise iRie penden. jndg-
men'-and while they knew that these base and
vruperauve cslnmnes wouc have heir fleet,
that there we're ny base enough tanIica,e these
cslumnics, and others fools enough 10 believe them,
still, Senators would, in their Judgments exercise
Sound discretion, and on the sounds.t patriotism He
DID not desire to adopt measure inconsistent with
cles. and VI Questionable right. If he did. he would
subject himsslito ohloquy He would hesitate there
fore becsuse he did not believe the ,ie unq ston
able The discussion IN as far rs il had gone only re-
fer ed TO the genea question Of title but there
minor questions Of law and of fact to be considered
and they should examine them before they passed
the resolutions In this state things they should hest
tate before they took such action would obige them
to rush into war, with of the greatest powers the
face OF the earth, with whom their interest
main in peacs and preserve their peaceful relations Mr.
here reviewed the American title to the Oregon
rory derived through discovery by Car tain Gray, Of
the Columbia river next the discoveries of Clark and
Lewis then that derived by the cession Of Louisiana
and FLORIDA He commended that the Louisiana title
claimed only up to az but the chief title claimed
that derived by the treaty Of Florida He, however
considered the title derived through the cession of Louis
ana lar preferable to other put forward In relation
to discovery, question remained to be considered also
whether any principle of public law would justify CT
hzen In claiming the whole Of country a dscoverer
when that citizen merely continued the explorations
river which had been discovered by an adventurer
and made new discoveries OF country such an adven
turer could not claim whole country under crcum.
stances such as thesen comes In conflict with all the
rules Of public law and public right Such the
regarded the Columbia Gray simply solved a doubt,
which before existed he entered river which be-
fore discovered, and did this make the utle of the
United States clear and unquesonable7 The dscove-
res OF Lewis and Cnrk did not establish that" clear and
unquestionabe title either MIR f. here cited several
extracts from Mr. wy ndham Robinsons work, in sup
port Of his position and went say next ground
OF title was derived through Louisiana also treaty
and this requires to be gravey considered. By the
treaty Of 7o3 II said England had coded her title
but these were all matters Of controversy. He in
VI Wnicn Went 10 the 10 MAN.
tain Oregon, "pesceably we can forcibly we mustn
But this required their grave and deliberate action But
the great ground of title relied upon that derived
by the Florida treaty That treaty surely transferred
10 the United States rights, claims and pretensons
when they got near the line vsrging the Pacific
Ocean Was this clear and unique stionaole,n as we
seek TO hold Now to the assumption of right and
title on the ground Of discovery, where the dscoveer
did not occupy for some time, il becomes another
Question In all the discussion, they had imputed to
Britain that she claimed under erroneous title,
exclusive right" He commended that Great Britain
had set up claims of exclusive rght she has al
ways held that Oregon open to her subjects, to
America 10 the whole world, TO any who may
choose to settle there. That was her position all
through but TO argue that because she did hold
for exclusive rights she not entitled TO any privi
lcges in the territory this the Senator's had
fallen into The rights she claimed ought to be discus
sed and this the matter the Senate should deliberate
upon before they passed notice which would exclude
them from all title right in the territory Mr. Evans
continued his argument in the examination of the ques