New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-06-05


ALBANY. Wednesday, JuIe 3, ls46-aP.M
To he Editor Of The Tri5nNe
SIs: After the Convention had adopted num-
Der OF Special Standing Orders or Rules this morn
ing, with an understanding. as expressed by Mr..
LOOMS that the Regulations which had been found
applicable 10 similar defberative bodies as arranged
in Jeffersons Manual should be referred 10 in cases
not otherwise specified, the 18th Rule reported by
the Select Committee, read. l, provides that
no person shall be admitted within above the bar
OF the Convention, the Delegates and officers
unless by the Presidents order, he limitation
of a Member: and although adopted by 81 Yeas
cecasoned discussion OF an hour and half; which
was begun by Mr. Morris, who objected strongly to
that part which authorized any Member other than
the President to invite persons not OF their body
within the bar, and declared that if it should pre-
vail he would assuredly make no distinction, but
invite all who asked-rnan, woman and child. He
sent TO the Chair Resolution of great length, pro-
viding for the admission of very large number Of
official persons. dignitaries of various grades and
others who had held Offices. &c.
Mr.. Patterson remarked that this amendment
would give special admissions to al least ten times
as many persons as had seats in The Convention ;
and the House enjoyed hearty laugh when Mr
Morris frankly declared that he had not read his
own amendment and asked whose hand wiring it
was in. Mr.. Patterson continued, that he had yet
to learn that the classes proposed to be specially
admitted by Mr.. NJ. were better entitled to an ad-
mission than the respectable people of this State
He objected to any rule classification by which
dignitsries would be privileged and let in there.
and the respectable inhabitants kept out,
Mr. Morris said be was willing that the exclusive
power Of admission should be left with the Presi-
dent.
Mr. Wordeu remarked that the season of the
year was warm. the chamber comparatively small,
the business to be transacted very important, and
that the galleries and the space below the bar were
free for all If every gentleman might invite, too
many would he feared, be invited and the noise OF
private conversation would greatly Inconvenience
the public business How could he make dis
tnc,ion, on the occasion Of important debate =
He would have 10 invite all Of his fellow citizens
who asked. He proposed that they should leave
the power of admissions to the President, Who if
distinguished gentlemen were here, would, as is
usual. provide places for them. Mr.. Swackhamer
remarked that the Governor Of Canada was eS-
pected this way soon. Mr.. Hoffman said, that as to
President of the u s.. former Presidents, State OH
GERS and Judiciary the Circuit Judges, Chancellor,
Governor 1t. Governor. the Governor of Cana
d. if he were here, the usual courtesy would in
duce the Convention TO invite them through its Pre-
sdent. Members would have 10 consult the actual
existing Government on many subjects, and TO call
al tie public offices for information; and State OH
GERS were therefore entitled to expect seats. He
thought the rule might also include Members of the
Senate and Assembly.
Mr.. Cha,field would make no such distinctions
the gentleman from Herhimer excluding some
funciiouares and Inviting others. He would invite
no man because he held or had held office, TO the
exclusion of others equally reputable who had not
He had perfect confidence in every one OF his TEL
low Members that they would each discreetly use
and not abuse the power conferred BY the rule.
Delegate under the gallery opposed all amendments
which would admit the servants OF the people, and
exclude the people themselves. Tho people had
trusted those here whom they supposed least likely
TO abuse power, and he also would trust them Mr.
Richmond (who afterward voted for the rulel
thought that there WIS higher obligation on the
Convention TO invite the two last Legislatures
who had framed the act for revision Of the Const
tuition than either the Chancellor or Circalt Judges
Mr. Rhoades had no fears that Members would
invite their friends when business would be retarded
by so doing, but apprehensive that individuals
would take advantage of the rule during important
discussions, md thus fill up and crowd the body OF
the House, producing real Inconvenience and dis,
comfort to Members. Mr. Loomis liked the rule as
it was il acknowledged privileged class, and
would be found to answer in practice Much more
" as said and come gentlemen who are generally
considered great Democrats, appeared TO me, IN
their matter aud manner by far the most afraid OF
coming into too close contact with the Z" common
people"
Role IA provides that the previous question should
be always in order if seconded by majority. but
as left the majority OF the day can alter any rule
Under the 2O,h rule, President Tracy assigned me
very comfortable seat Ii empowers the President
10 admit certain and as many reporters within the
bar es he may think fit. OF The journal, 600 copies
are TO be printed, which is TOO few by far Each
Member could very advanIageously send the sheets
dav by day TO al least ten persons among mis- 1000
constituents OF the journals OF 1921, there is not
copy left in the State Library The question OF
THAT information ought be asked as 10 the cost OF
,he State Judiciary, law fees. expenses of County
Courts official salaries, &c. was referred 10 Com
mittee of three. Nothing is done as yet, publicly,
concerning the arrangement and subdivision OF the
great business of the Session diagrams are ordered
TO be- procured showing the arrangement OF the
seats, &c
heard complaint made of The time that is taken
up in preliminary arrangements. but it seemed to
me tina, there vas no room for fault finding Good
rules al first save time thereafter was in the body
OF the House OF Representatives. by invitation OF
gone OF the Members, when the Sub-Treasary Bill
passed in 1910, and saw no inconvenience result
from The usage, In England, every Peer may invite
one person 10 the Gallery only. Lord Brougham
gave me En- order for the debate on the passage of
the Reform Bill. In The House OF Commons. | had
10 ge! Speakers order for q seat below the bar.
Nole but Members have seat above it, the clerks
excepted.
stated on Monday that Dean Yves nominee of
the Ca1:as foi Secretary, should have said Strong