New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-07-23
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cipies oil urClvGed counties 9nG contiguous ;e-rfo
~ II there was one subject On which the popalar
sentiment. had been most clearly and rnequivocally
exp-esssd !, in favor OF single districts. II
counties were divided there could be eQosl Senate
districts or ii counties not adjoining were taken
they could have IL as, for instance, II Richmond
we're added 20 Queens and Suto!S leaving Kings
slone There would be greater inequality II 80
5isrir.s were adopted and the Couluilttee had tried
20 and A. and found greater aggregate OF differ
NJ Harris would no, divide counties-liked
Mr.. Richmouds proposition-by 1t they would DC
able 10 make more counties mo sepaa' $500
districts-he enumerated Is snd sis'ec nSny 0'Ne''
where two would make district .
Mr.. NlcoLL would vote for SO or 40, according as II
mig bt be shown which would leave the ewest dihsf'
encss of population. The Committee bad named IS
! districts In Nev-York. Wards with more than me
average DO pu!ation which were. like the lstn ass
increasing and had united other w ards the pecuhat
character OF which was 10 decrease. he wanted
LARGE DIsrKlcrs 50 that the people in each might
! be enabled 10 vote yesriy.
, Mr.. RRoADgs-In a. wears the people hsd not
complained of the rlmbers 80 and rs out me com
plant was universal against the size OF the Distrcts
If the number of Senator's were 10 be increased 80
also mus, be the number OF Members OF Assembly
Mr. SrErsoS wished larger number Of Senators
J the vote of one Senator Is now too important In
SO years population had greatly increased and so
ought the Members OF the Senate. IRe people de-
ing l6 Senators annually from alternate Districts
sacrifices the representative feature Ia the stability
OF the Senate. He would go for all TO be chosen AT
cnce for two years for all 10 De chosen tor single
year, IN preference.
(Mr. S also suggested plan Ike that OF Mr. Iuden' OF
90 Districts 40 Senators and Senator from each Dis
,rct 10 20 GU, yearly sss bu, little weight In the
objections to the Committees plan OF alternate District
Elections II the sixteen Senators who remain In
no IN
themselves also jus, in from the country with l2s
Asssmb!ymen newly elected in The neHi room' they
would not be apt 20 h!under much frofn Vi ~
public sentiment
Mr. RIcaMosD's only reason for proposing Sc
pate of 80 is TO Obtain equality OF represents
ZION Wyoming and Orleans have tSvo-thirds the
population of Onondaga Ii has four Delegates on
This floor and they have only two On the principle
that gives New York sixteen members they would
be entitled TO three aud a half. He would raiher
divide Counties, il Il could be done conveniently
than have an unequal representation in the Senate
rThc population OF Wyoming, including the towns OF
Pike Eagle oue-ihrd OF Portage. added to 1t from
Ale.any Is 1000 souls yet 1t seads but one mem
hr 10 the Convention Mr. Young3 while Genesee, with
but 2ssl5 sends to three other counes. not much
more populous than Wyoming alone, send three j
Mr.. WRIGHT of Sullivan concurred in the Report.
Its general features-single Districts had been
clearly demanded by The People every where
In the Committee he had proposed IS Senators. and
IS Senate Districts considering he did, that the
Senate was TOO large for Judicial Court and too
small for Legislative body. There were, It was
well known, people who arrosated TO themselves
the management of the political affairs OF the diter-
emit Counties OF the State, sort oi irresponsible re
gency and their dictation and underhand manage
ment il was the wish OF the People to break
up, tina, power might remain with It's true owners
AS the Report stands, larger number OF persons
would elect but 5 Senators-a smaller number elect
L. Eleven Senators would be sent by cities, or by
counties containing large cities, like New. ORR,
| BROOKLYN Albany &c. He would settle the details
of representation here, and noteave 10 the Legs
lature in times of high excitement.
! MIR. YoUya wished the Senate increased, for
/ if there corruption In The system, the more
would have 10 be corrupted TO carry bad measure
Mr. CAMPBELL Of Steuben sad that ss the dis
tricts are now divided. the people were not repre-
seued they were misrepresenied. While terri
tory 200 or 800 miles in extent was included In a
single dstrict gle eector could be be acquaint-
ed and in communication with his representatives.
The Committee had either TO report yearly Senate
or provide that bat half the Senate Districts should
elect annually. He was opposed to division Oh
counties because the people would not consent-the
counties were local government with extensive lu.
risdicton. which il was proposed to increase, and
county interests would be injured by dividing them
Suppose we divide, who would canvass the votes
of the divided county, Which County canvassers
would do thatl Who would pay election ex penses
in the fractions of Counties TO be cut oil
AFTER dinner 81 was passed over Informally, and 10,
nm the basis of representation, taken up. Mr. CHAT
FIELD moved to amend the Section by including aliens,
paupers and negroes taxed al part OF the popular
bass of Representations. This would give the city OF
other mem bers 10 addition the 10 sent al
rscdy but would give tho negroes paupers
and aliens. some 20 600 In number there resident Mr.
! AZ
Msssrs Wordsn Loomis and Jordan opposed the allen
bass
The ygro debate No. 4, ended last night Ia res
oIntion TO amend away TIE pth OF all the patchwork
OF past amend ments, and ecye the veto power where
/ il ia In the present Constitution
Mr. CAHsRELEsG, today, quoted Blackstones
definition of the British Constitution-tat is 1ns
/ ,cIgt m, Parliament pleases-an he added that
our State Constitutions much the same, and that
| there lies the difficulty. The Legislature IN Repub
lies was he said q tyrant which the people had to
! watch, and ne thought that The Veto power mad
saved the public from great abuses
Mr. HOFFMAN also favored the veto power.-
What had been often said 10 this country OF It's legs
| laton in the hamets villages and cities! twas
I thank God the Legislature has journed without
! doing more mischief - Who OF US, ne asked, bad
not heard ,his7 Why are biennial sessions pro,
! posed Why is no pay after certain number oil
! DAVIS SPOKEN Of! The veto bad not prevented ex.
Z
been useful. and he you'd prefer strengthening H.
Mr. NIcHcLA. wanted the Veto LEI alone, ana
Mr. WogDEs agreed with Mr.. HofFhAs 'nal mere rte
had been much corrup, Legislation In I'M" state INC
Veto power when il arress bad OIL. exercises '1
,sIu,arv influence and lhs People viii take good
care that IL shall not long arrest Soo1 0No "
! was content with II IS II stood
Mr. CAArFIELD spoke not very teToraol y Oh 'he
ye,o-severai votes were ther taken--snd matters
were left nearly as ii there had been no cebate 81
! all Several legal gentlemen, however, gkye no,
ices Of 'reconsideraiions the probable ehec- Oh
which viii be farther waste OF valuable TINE
II mis- Convention ID To produce beneficial Effects
the people will saye TO ook TO IT, My lads, SAID
Napoleon TO the school-boys, every hour oil lost
ume /. chance OF future aaistorune. And y" me
greater the difficulty The glory 10 sqrmoununs
H. Skifa pilots gain their reputation from storms
and tenpes.s
P. ST. send you the Report now nadef discus
sion herewith
Sauvoo Agnin Ia Commotion.
BY the arrivs! OF the steamer 81 Croix last night,