The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-08-05


Mr. NAsrr~ delegate of Wisconsin. submitted reso-
luton requiring the clerk TO ia nsh the present men,
hers, who have received them the same KIND Of
hooks among the members Of the last Con-
gress uding the fifth volume oil the debates on tn,
federal constitution none OF them however, TO be re-
printed for this purpose And he moved the previous
Mr. DRomoooLE moved to lay the resolution ON the
table
The CLrsx commenced calling tho yeas and nays
(Which had been ordered), but lie had to pause His
not sentoran and therefore II could not be
heard above the din.
The srsARrn after taking glass of water) when.
ever gentlemen get through with their talking, the
House will project in the business "A long pause on
the part of tue Clerk
Speaker.
The srsAKrS.-The gentleman from Virginia.
, Nr D"oMeooLn-lsthere any particular limit for gen.
uemen to indulge in conve rsaiionl Laughter.
The ,rsastR-rhe rules 10 not prescribe. Laugh
ter The tue Is precious to the House lAIause-l
Gentlemen VII please cca o their conversation
Here followed very loud knock, and another pause,
ana the Cle'k Wa enabled to get along comfortably
nays73
THEsEoN
Alta o'clock the private secretary of tho President Of
the United States appeared at the door pening to the
main entrance OF the hail. and after informing the House
that the President had approved and signed the bill In re-
aon 10 Spanish tonnage duties and Java coffee and the
Joint resolution providing Tor the execution OF the pub
lie printing by contract, he communicated message in
writing There were cries all over the House Veto,
veto ~ ana q" Read. read ~
MIR HUsr of New York; that the message of
| the President oil the United States DO read.
MIR fissArrs, ton the other side OF the hall III move
that the message be read lCres of sgreed-agreed" y
The srn.Hsn-Dces any gentleman object lone
voice" do" aud laughter]
The rules were suspended but one gentleman voting
IN he negative
The srsAxLR-The following message has been re-
ceived from the President of the United states Avery
lou knock and cries Of order-order'1
The Clerk very expednously tore OF the envelope
IA voice Tear the thing itsslf into peces"]
The oPe AKER-Gentlemen will please come TO order.
Silence was almost completely restored when
Ing to the House tho river aud harbor bill, with his
Jections
The SrEAHER-The gu eston u.s. shall the bill become q
law the objections Of The President Of the United States
TO the conuary notwithstanding
The constitutional provision is as follows 3" Every
bill which hail have passed he House OF Representa-
uves and tho Senate shslI before it becomes law be
presented the President the United States II he
approve he shall sign 1t but not he shall return It,
originated who shall enter the objections large the
journal and proceed 10 reconsider it II after such
consideration two;thirds OF that House shall agree to
pass the bill 1t shall be sent together with the objections
to the other House. by which shall likewise he
sidered and il approved by two-thds Of that House it
MIR Bow and expressed his thanks to the Presi
dent for the veto It would be proper to have the docu
men prined lie presumed the first question would be
to reconsider.
Mr. AsHMuS--I rise to a question of order
The srEAKER-The gentleman will state it
MIR. AsHMuN-It is before the House proceed to
consider. the message be spread upon the journal
The SPEAKER-ihe Chair is aware OF that. Il will
not prevent the House from acting the bill The usual
construction is 10 consider the message AFTER read,
MIR Bo.pl did rise for the purpose of discussing
the subject at this Lave period OF the session. but to
ing his opinions move the previous question
AIR THOMPSON, OF Pennsy lvania II mako in
Sustained, will the question BIO debaeable Voices
MIR DEoMcooLE.-I ask the gentleman from Kentucky
to withdraw his motion TO enable me to say word
Voices, Vo'e it down. vote it down)
Mr. WENrwosrH- IL ask tellers that
Mr. DAVIS OF Kentucky suggest that the message
W.
(Lries Of agreed" and " oh no.D
The House by vote of, 3D. noes 1885, refused to
second the demand for the previous question.
Mr DRoMGooLE- under stand that the previous ques.
ton has not been seconded.
The sr.AKER.-lt has not been seconded. Voices
Take our seats" down in front j more than fourth
OF the men bers standing"
Mr. DRoMoooLE-The question Is shall the bill pass
the Presidents objections to the contrary notwihsand
The srEAKKR-Cknocking) y Gentleman are respect
fully requested to take their seats
ar. DnoMGooLk-Rumors have been ahoat for several
days. leading to believe that the harbor b
returned without the Presidents signature and there
fore, without becoming law Anticipating such
the proper be pursued The first veto mes.
sage was from General ~ashington, in l19I, when he
returned the Apo tonn,en Bill aud the last with this
exception in ls44 by President Tyler | fnd that the
TO be observed 10 this tho objections Pre-
House may proceed to reconsider. once or they may
assign particular day Tor that purpose As the House
gest that we shall proceed with as little delay as posi-
bic and adopt the resolution that adopted in 1902,
viz that morrow be assigned for the consideration
of the said bill" Voices say now now.'l / would
have objection but the House have refused to pro-
coed now will amend the resolution BY saying at
o'clock. lit wanted twenty five minutes to one But,
no will adhere to the original resolution, and cay to-
morrow.
Mr. BaopHrAp-I move to insert forthwith 4
The orEAKhR-The question is now before the House.
Mir. DOUGLASS obtained the floor, aud said he would
be exceedingly gistihed if the President had showed
the application OF his doctrine the particular objects
objected to III the bill. In such case might Know
how to pass mra urs that would not DO Objectionable
lie U
sound and ectb but he not able compre-
bend their applicability to the bill which had been
turned
MIR. TaunSAs-Do understand you to approve of the
general principles
Mr. IHrRMAs-Do nd,rstand you to spprove of the
dstine ion which the President MAKES ports har
bvrs for domestic and foreign commerce
Mr. DoroLAss-l do not believe III the distinction made
between salt water aud resh and above below ports
made 1t unreasonable, il not ridiculous approve
of the doctrine of the Pre- iden applied to the const
Mr. Borp--i rise to question Of order undo rstood
the motion Of the gentleman from Virginia (Mr Drom
iact
The srrAxrR-(Mr HOPKINS. pro TEN 1.-The motion
Is equivalent TO postponing till Tomorrow.
Mr. p-s til order to discuss III ! will make
propo ition the gentleman from Illinois, (,ir Doug ASST
gentleman from Virginia, (Nir DromgooieJ to modify
his resolutions SO as to have the message printed.
MIR. DNoMGooLEl anticipated the mo,lon oil tho gen.
teman from Kentucky and have reduced what he sug.
gests TO writing
MIR WENTwoRrH-I want to amend the resolution and
call the previous question
The srAAKsK.-Does the gentleman from Illinois yield
the hoori
MIR DOUGLASS assented
Mr. WrSrw, RrH II move TO add land that the esti
mates Of the secretary Of War for the appropriations
the bill be printed with the message"
Mir acCoNsELL.-The secretary of War, Is not the
interpreter of the constitution of the United States
MIR DOUGLASS was about to resume remarks (hav.
ing. with his characteristic generosity allowed himself
temporarily TO be deprived Of the foor), when
The sPEAKkR requested him to delay and invited gen.
liam IN TAX q Spat n
Mr DoUelA,s concluded his remarks, and said that he
would Tor the ball. tine objection of the President
the contrary noiw ithstanding.
Mr. 1Hoar.ov, Of Ponnsy wanna expressed his deep
greet that the President had the bill with his OBJ
Jections The estimates had been by the Secre-
tsry War and tue bill had been vetoed! The day
before the last taken the tariff bill the Union