New-York daily tribune., 1846-01-12
yEW.YORK LEGISLATURE.
Anri.Rent Discussion, DC.
SENATE.
AIBASY. friday, J,

ToS should hsve been the Committee on PUBIC bA
Ate. the presentation of petitions reports. &c.
OF general interest several notices OF bills we're
given. when the Senate Mr. CLARK in the Chair.
went into Committee OF the Whole on the Governors
Message.
The usual resolutions of reference were moved BY
Mr. LESTER
Mr.. PORTER moved the reference of thst portion
Of the message relating leasehold estates TO the
Judiciary Comniree.
a discussion arose upon this motion in which
Messrs WRIGHT PORTER YouSG VAS ScHooS-
HovES, BARLOW and BEERS took par.
Mr.. You've advocated the motion of Mr. Porter
Mr. VAS ScEoosHovEN had objection TO The
reference of this subject 20 10 several COM
mi!iees. he believed selec, committee might be
raised in the Senate VINO would give this subject
candid and fair sideraton. He IN favor OF
Select Conlmittee
Mr WRIGHT said ii might be thought by some
that he had introduced his resolution for select
committee. for the purpose OF getting Up en- Anti
Rent bill bri he denied any connection with the
Anti Rent movement He was content that this sub
ject should go either TO a select committee or 8
Committee the Judiciary, so that il should re-
ceve such consideration as il merited.
Mr.. BEERS did not believe that the case Of lease
hold tenants susceptible OF any legislative relief
Mr.. JOHNSON took the same ground In the mat
OF taxing the landlords for reserved rents he be-
lieved law might be, and he hoped would be
passed.
Mr.. SPENCER thought the question had taken
wider range than mere question of reference
would call for. The question was. whether the sub
ject now in the hands Of Select Committee should
be taken out of the hands OF tha, Committee and
placed in the hands OF the Committee the Judi
ciary. He advocated its reference TO Seec, Com
mittee.
Mr. YouxG wanted a repor, from Committee
that would carry conviction not only TO the minds OF
the Anti Renters, but TO the minds of all the People
-.
ton of Gov Seward this matter had been rit,cd
with, but he did charge upon thai officer all the
odium OF the controversy. During that administra
ton report was made which he would style
Ambient report, and the decision OF the subject
had thus been protracted in way that has given
rise to bloodshe and other unhappy results. AT
that time the subject had been met with prompt
ness if the tenants had been told fairly what relie
il any, could be granted them he believed that the
melancholy outrages would never have occurred
which we now deplore. The report 10 which he
/ referred made IN the Assembly and recon-
mcnded in substance that the State of New-York
sho uld seize the domain of the landlords, in the
same manner that lands are taken for canals, and
sell it TO the tenants in fee simple.
| Mr.. LESTER argued against the power of the
Legislature 10 afford redress to the tenants by step
ping in between them and their contracts with their
landlords
Mr.. HARD was in favor of referring the whole
I matter TO a Select Committee He did not intend TO
discuss the question but 10 reply 10 remark
of the Senator from the Fourth tMr. Young that
! there had been some demagogueism in regard TO
! this matter during the administration OF Governor
! Seward. He Mr.. H. thought the Senator had not
rightly dated the time when this tampering and dem
/ agoguesm had been used in relation TO this matter
/ Twenty years ago the champion OF the party to
which that Senator belonged. had tampered with
these tenants, and had first taught them resistance
to law. in attempting 10 redress their grievances
Mr. Fl. defended Gov Seward from the charge
made by the Senator from the Fourth, and quoted
/ from that Governors message OF 1910 in which
while he deprecated the existence OF the evils which
! oppressed the tenants OF easehod estates, yet lie
considered the law az standing between the ten <s
| and their redress Mr.. Hard said he might carry
/ the charge of demagoguesm back 10 the President
OF the United States, who used language In regard
to the doctrine of Dorrism, which was far more
heretical than that complained of here against the
Whig administration. The tenants had right to
take the ground in their case as had been taken
| BY the Loco Foco party in the case Of Dorr.
Mr. YouSG. When they President, they
may.
as the President. They are all Sovereigns.
Mr. Lori quoted from the message OF Gov. Sew.
ard in 1890 in which he characterised the leasehold
tenures as antrepublican and oppressive tenures
and inquired for what purpose this language was
used Was it tickle the constituents OF his excel
lencv or to offer some relief from these oppressive
tenures He thought il would have been better
! had the Governor presented some mode OF relief.
Mr. YouNG did not intend, by incidentally alud
ing 10 the course of The administration of Gov Sew
ard in regard 10 this subject, to be understood as
throwing the whole charge OF demagogulsm upon
/ that Executive. The tenants had been tampered
with-they had been tampered with before He
was desirous that now the Legislature should take
some decisive steps, and by report covering the
whole ground TO put end TO the delusons by
which these tenants had been led along.
| Mr. VAS SCHooSHoyEN did not intend TO detain
the committee by extended remarks. He should
but do injustice 10 the subject and himself He
fully conceded th the views of Governor Seward,
to which allusion had been made that these tenures
were anti republican, oppressive and injurious
Mr. LOTT did not wish 10 be understood, IN COM
menting upon the remarks in the message Of Gov.
Seward as differing from that gentlemans opinion
/ that the easehod tenures were contrary 10 the
spirit of our institutions He did believe So but he
saw no legslasive power which could afford redress
from them.
Mr.. VAN ScHooSHovEs denied that the tenants
desired anv unconstitutional interference with their
grievances He had himseltake no decided ground
on this duestion-he did not intend TO express any
at this time Ii had been said by Senators that he
stood here the peculiar representative OF the Anti
Renters He did not shrink from that appellation.
| He stood on that ground with perfect satisfaction.
/ Those persons had given him their confidence, and
supported him hearrly-and he should do himself
Injustice not TO meet'lt. He did not wish TO offer at
this time any extended remarks on this subject be-
| fore i, was reported by committee to the Senate,
and he moved 10 rise and report.
After some farther discussion between Messrs-
BEERS, VAS ScSooSHovES and WRIGHT without
taking the question on reference the committee rose
and reported progress.
And the Senate then adjourned.
The following are additions TO the Standing Com
mittees
JOINT Library Coaminee-Joues Folsom and Wright.
on Grieraaces-Hand, Scovil and j. B. Smith.
In ASSEMBLY Mr.. SHERWOOD reported bill to
authorize the Supervisors of Duchess Co. TO sell
their Poor House and Farm
The Annual Report of the Inspector OF the Onon-
dasa Salt Springs was presented, and live times the
usual number OF copies and go extra were ordered
20 be printed.
Mr. HARRIS called up his resolution to refer the
petitions relative to landlord and tenant, TO select
committee.
Nj BAILEY moved to refer the resolution to the
Committee OF the " hole on the Governor Message
When u lengthy debate sprung up, in which
Messrs. HARRIS, BAILEY, TiLDEs, YouSG, CHASE
HAYSER SMITH and WATSON took part
NJ hoDad this motion would not prev all.