New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-08-05
NETWORK CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION
TENTH vEEK-LuD DAY.

vi Olou5C Uu
Court Moneys-Mann defeated By Murphy
0'Conor on the Judiciary-Law and Equity MAJ
be uni,ed-Kirkland, Basc0m, simmons anu
Ruggles on the Courts and Judges-None may
be Judges or Lawyers till Licensee-tees 10 DC
abolished. The state 0ficers-A Four-looleo
Supervisor .,,u "A ,s.s
To tie Editor Of The Tribune
! SIR. The following interesting statement nave
collected from Controller Flaggs Report, g1ven IN
,b;s forenoon. in reply TO Mr.. Murphy's inquiry,
with view 10 system OF equitable taxaton con-
corning the amount OF capital vested in Stock Cor
Dora,ions within the city Of New-York. and as TO
where said stock is owned How the information
Mr. Murphy called for in this instance, is ne
cessary 10 enable the Convention 10 decide correctly
on taxation than that which he refused to cali for.
ms mentioned below is 70 enable il 10 understand
correctly the working Of the Chancerv System. |
do not see One thing perceive, however yery
clearly. and that is that there are none IN this
State who take the tsrdy movements OF the Con
vention with more quiet and comfort than Messrs.
Hoffman Nelson. Perkins. Tden. Tallmadge, and
Morris Mr.. Bascom this day, after continued de-
bate from last week OF about hours on the Salar-
les of the State Officers tried not TO stop discussion
but TO proceed IN Convention because lie saw inst
Sor HALF the Members were IN attendance. There
were three or four divisions. but quorum AT
last 20 Members appeared and voted down. By a
majority, Mr.. BIS motion, Messrs Hoffman Chat
field. StetsOn, Angel, Perkins, President. Tamadge.
Tilden and Morris being Of that majority. That
this cannot continue and the business required be
done or half Of it, is very evident-and perhaps
there are those who do as little they can,
and then 20 10 the People uext November, in favor
Of the present corrupt system. The spinning out
OF speeches here YOU can form correct idea OF
except you come and listen 70 them.
Stock Corporations Of .Nc,r- York
Capital paid in or secured of the stock Corporations.
deriving profits from their business Free Banks ncud-
ed and having their principal business places IN New.
York City sJ4,994.23
OF the above amount, the American Exchange Bank,
the American Fur Co and number OF Insurance Cos.
have gwen detailed returns. The capital o these Is
SlO1:4 $50
OF the remaining corporations, having stock equal TO
Si260s the amounts held are a. iollows:- BY per
sons residing in Civ or County OF New York SB0l9J,-
40 Residing elsewhere in n. York state. S3G4166l.-
Residing in the United States, on; OF n. York state
s62o96A Held by state and Literary and Charitable
Institutions STD hi Held by persons residing beyond
the limits OF the United States, $395927l The whole
amount OF capital assessed Corporations III n ork
Civ for lsi5, was Sj2,5S3.l14
OF the above City Stocks held by persons residing in
foreign lands 200 is in Bank OF America-SlOOJO
in Bank OF n York-Si6i. 100 IN Bank OF State OF "
York-Sl3l455 in City Bank-Sis2,i00 in Manhattan
Co-S26l I:}6 in Mechanics Bank-S22O,2JO in Mer
chants Bnk-Sl267s,O in National Bank-S2l $40 in
Bank OF Commcrce.-S65 800 in n. York Guardian usur
nnce 900 in Farmers Loan and Trust Co
$1,000 in Manhattan Gas Light Co,-So4 5OO IN Mer-
chants Exchange Co-S3i7600 in n. York Life lnsur
,uicc and Trust 40 IN n York Gas Light CO.
$4,000 in y. York and Erie Railroad Co.-$oe.o-O IN
Phoenix Bank-S57,30O III Union Bank, &c.
o! the above stocks, there held by persons resid
ing in the T. States beyond " York state Slil loo IN
Bank oil Colnmcrce-sa96,5o0 in Bank OF America
$3.50 300 in Bunk state OF \. iork-S2939OO in Union
BHnk-S2i2O 54 Mechanics Baik-S2O5joO IN Phoenix
Banks 800 IN City Bank-S6O59OO III Delaware and
Hudson Canal Co--S;77e0O in Harlem Railroad CO.
Sl7 $50 in the Gas Light Cos.$65 GOO in y. York
and Erie Railroad Co. Sc.
Nv letter Of Saturday has given your readers the
various plans OF the Members of the Judiciary Com
mittce. for remodeling the Courts OF Law IN their
own language. ! will now add brief summary OF
the observations OF Members last Saturday The
horrible account III one o, your numbers OF last week,
OF the buichcries OF hundreds OF the weathiest m
habitants OF Poland, as given by Count Montaiem-
bert in the French Chamber OF Peers recently.
shows how insecure are the possessors OF wealth III
the absence of Courts OF law and justice founded ON
opinion and dcservcdly upheld by the whole soci-
ETY. A detective system OF sprudence--ilde-
fined rights and obligations-an impure administers
ton of Justice posons at the tountainhead the hap.
pness OF any people. and prepares the way for ma
ronal decay
justices tS-Sur7ogates-1He Supreme Court
-Il.lon of Lac and Eguity Constellation
ot The Common Pleas-Judges' Fees and Saia.
rics-Ch0ncery .Suits q A0ckeyy-APpea' Court
Simplifying PrcceedinSS-CODrt Moneys.
Mr. BliowN OF Orange would desire 10 leave the
Justices Courts as they now are--they dispose OF
much litigation with great delay, at tritiing eX
pense the suitors and none at all 10 the public
THE civil suits OF the humble cost the public nothing
As to the Surrogate Courts. he thought they could
not be materially improved. think he added that
lie approved of making Surrogates salary officers
Great injustice had been done by letting these oif
GERS touch fee. Hundreds OF dollars are expended
IN taking testimony before the Surrogates as 20 a
little personal property, which amounts 10 nothing
after the decree is rendered.
With reference 10 the Committees Report Jas
given in by Mr.. Rugges. he hoped the public
would look favorsbly on it. Ii the Convention
agreed upon the essential features II was all that
could be expected.
The Committee agree as TO q large increase IN
the Judicial force
They almos, all agree as to the distribution of
this force throughout the various sections Of the
State bv division of the State into Districts II
is desirable have uniform course OF decisions
We, there is way OF preserving the unity OF the
Supreme Court and q, the same time Of preserving
this uniformity OF decisions.
The Report uuites law And equity. The country
would never get rid OF this distinction until these
TWO Jurisdictions We're united. Wherever he had
seen them united. the union had been eminently
successful.
The Report proposes to abrosa,e the Courts OF
Common Pleas-fve judges sitting TO Try cues
non OF fact understood Mr.. Brown 10 add, that
they had been the great stumbling block IN the way
Of the administration OF justice.
The Report proposes s system OF fixed salaries
for the UNDERGRADUATES neither 70 be increased nor
diminished during the term Of office OF any incum
bent. In securing the Judge his salary we secure
his pecuniary independence.
The Report puts stop to the practice OF paying
fees 10 the Jodses-iees are ntDemocratc, anti
Republican. Why bad in the Supreme Court and
good IN the Justices Court 4 Fees are laid on by
Governments 20 plunder the People i'll p way they
can neither see nor feel Ii there is sny thing most
offensive the feeling Of the community in the al
iniuisustiou Of justice II is the Judge on the Bench
occupying high position. descending thcrefrom TO
take his ees-stopp;nc the cause I'll he receives
his perquisites Il is very degrading practice
Mr. Brown differs irom the msjori5! OF The Com
mit;ee-
! He thinks ,ha, Sc judges, as provided in the
Report cannot do al the business tina, must neces
sarily come before them-there were NOT enough o;
them.
,. \ suit in the Court .os Chancery is mere
mockery. There IS nobody there 10 express an