The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1846-04-21


erning the action of this House, and though the Char
- not prepared 10 say, but that committee might
be appointed under certain circumstances, yet the
Chair says that il would be Irregular, ana not ac-
cordng 10 practice BY reference TO the journals OF
the last two Congresses, II will be seen that motion
to insist, or 10 recede, has uniformly been acted
upon by the House before committee OF confer
/ ence has been appointed.
| Mr.. DROMG0OLE inquired what the precise
condition of the question before the House
| The SPEAKER stated it.
| Mr.. DROMGo0LE said, that motion TO rsesde
/ from the amendment of the House TO the amend
ment Of the Senate was certainly in order; but II
that was voted down, (and, by-the-by, he hoped II
would be } II would then be in order TO to IN
sSt IL this House insisted, and the Senate subse-
quently insisted, then motion for committee OF
conference would DO IN order, 10 prevent the hnal
loss of the resolutions II both houses finally adj
hered TO their respective amendments, then the res
olutlons were lost
| Mr. HARRISON desired TO be informed by the
Chair whether, if the House should not recede, and
/ the resolutions should be transmitted to the Sen
ate and that body should adhere, the matter not
| then at an end or whether the House could then,
should such be its sense, recede from its position
| He asked for information TO govern his vote.
| The SPEAKER said he would decide that ques-
ion in its proper place. There was now another
question pending.
| Mr. HARALSON submitted that as that ques-
ton might determine his vote, he had right to he
informed in respect to 1t, in order that he might vote
| understandingly.
Mr. RATHBUN again called attention to the
/ first joint rule.
| Mr.. TIBBATTS read il. He said that, accord
/ ing 10 the parliamentary law, the House could have
asked a committee Of conference. The rule of the
House took the place Of the parliamentary law.
By that rule the House had the power to ask such
committee before taking vote, either on rsesdi"g
| or insisting.
Mr.. JACOB THOMPSON. Did the Chair de-
eide the motion Of the gentleman from Indiana Mr..
| 0wEsl to be out Of ORDER
| The SPEAKER The Chair has so decided; and
has further decided that the motion to rseeds takes
precedence Of motion 20 insist.
| Mr.. THOMPSON. Is such motion made
| The SPEAKER. IL is.
| Mr. BAYLY. Is the motion pending'
| The SPEAKER. The motion 10 before the House;
but the pending question is on the appeal taken by
the gentleman from Georgia, Mr.. JOSEs,l from the
decision Of the Chair. Gentlemen side de-
sire that committee Of conference shall be appoint.
| ed before the question is taken, either mo-
ton TO Tecede or motion to insist. The Chair
has decided that, according to the practice of
the House, and under the first oint rule,
a motion to recede, or to insist, or TO adhere, has
universally been made and acted upon before asking
for a committee Of conference. There is not one
instance in the several years past, during which the
chair has examined the journals, wherein motion
for committee of conference made without a
previous or concurrent motion either TO insist, 10
recede, or to adhere. And the chair is Of opinion
that II is necessary that the House should vote on
one or other of these motions before asking a
committee Of conference. At the 18th page Of the
Manual, these motions are placed in their regular
order; first, to recede second, TO insist; third, to
adhere. And in this order they take precedence OF
each other. From this decision there is an appeal
and the question is, "sha the decision of the chair
lstan he ind mi Of he
| Mr.. BLACK, remarking that this was a very i'm
portant question, on which the House should no
act without deliberauon, moved that the House add
ourn.
| Butth House refused to ad joum.
Mr.. RATHBUN asked that the first joint rule
might again be read.
Mr. McCLERNAND objected, unless it was in
order.
The SPEAKER said the rule had already been
read, and the question the appeal.
The appeal was debated briefly by Messrs. s.
JONES, McCLERNAND, and RATHBUN
Mr., X. demanded the previous question, and re-
| sisted an appeal by
Mr.. HOPKINS to withdraw it, that he (Mr II y
, might ex plain a Misrepresentation which, it seemed
| to him, existed to the first joint rule.
The demand for the previous question was SEQ
l onded
| And the main question ION the appea) was or.
dered and, being taken, the House affirmed the de
, cison of the chair.
So the SPEAKER said:
| The question is on the motion Of the gentleman
from Tennessee, [Mr. GENTRY, "Wi the House
| recede from its amendment to the amendment of the
Senator
Mr.. BAYLY rose to make few remarks.
Some further discussion arose on incidental points
Of order, leading to no action, in which Messrs
J TIBBATTS, ASHMUN, BAYLY, CHAPMAN
s. JONES, and the SPEAKER participated.
Mr.. BAYLY (whose property the floor was) ther
said had desired, Mr.. Speaker, to submit few
remarks; but friends around me, on this side arr
anxious that there should be no debate. | Therefore
forego the strong inclination | have to address TIT
House, and move the previous question.
D Mr.. PETTITT moved that the House ad iourn.
= But the House again refused to ad ourn.
| The question was then taken on the demand TO
the previous question, and there was second.
And the main question ordered to be now ia
E ken
The yeas and nays thereon were ordered
and, after some conversation on the effect of tn
= vote subsequent proceedings, were taken and re
suited as follows:
YEAs-Messrs. Abbott, John Quincy Adams stephe
adams Arnold Ashmun Atkinson n,u BarrRgsr Bay
John II. Campbell, j. @. Chapman Augustus A. ChaI
, man, Reubep Chapman Cooke GoameT. Cranston, Gre
John II. Ewing, Edwin H. Ewing, Foot Gentry, Giles
Goodyear Graham, Order, Grnnell, Hampton Harper
billiard, Elias B. Holiness Isaac f. Holmes Hopkins, Ec
= mund w. Hubbard, Samuel .. Hubbard, Hudson Wash
,ngton Hunt, Hunter Joseph r. Ingersoll Tho mas Blu
Henry, Marsh, Miller Moseley, Payne, Pendlcton Pc
lock Julius Rockwell John A. Rockwell, Root, RUM
:, Schenck, Seaman, Seldom, Severance, Simpson, TIT
man Smith, Albert Smith, Caleb b. smith, Stanton ST.
phens Stewart, strohm, Thibodeaux, Tlden, Tredway
rrumbo, Vinton, White, Winthrop, Wood, WOODWARD
Wright, and Yancey--S5.
c NAYs.Messrs; Anderson Benton Bggs, James Blacl
Bowlin, Boyd, Brodhead, William G. brown Cathcar
Chase, Chapman, Clarke, Cobb, Cullom Cummins Cur
bingham, Daniel, jefferson Davis De Mott. Dillingham;
Dobbin, Douglass Dromgoole Dunlap Erdman, farar
Ficklin, Foster Fries, Garvn. Gordon Grover, Ham
HARRISON Harmanson, Hoge, Hough, George S Houston
Hungerford, James D. Hunt Charles J. Ingerso Je,
kns James H. Johnson Joseph Johnson Andrew johnson
; George w. Jones, seaborn Jones, Kennedy, Presto
King, Lawrence, La sere, Lumpkin, Maclay Mcclellan
: McClernand, Mcconnell James Mcdowell, Mckay, job
?. Martin Barclay Martin, Morris, Mouon Norri
Owen, Parish, Perri Petit Phelps, Price, Rathhu
Reid, Relic Ritter Roberts, sawtelle, Sawyer, Scan
mon Leonard II. Sims, Thomas Smith, Robert smiu
stsrkweather ST. John Strong, Sykes Jacob Thompson
Thurman, Tibbas, Wentworth, Wheaton Wick Williams
n Wlmot, Woodruff, Yell, and Yost--95.
Y So the House decided that it would not reced
from its amendment to the amendment of the Ser
e ate.
i Whereupon the question required on the motto
J. | of Mr.. RoprpTs IN wit