The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-02-12


1AnAirs OF ths New York Pilots.
Correspondence Of this Washington Union.l
% a1. 10 % III: s NsS quest QUESTION r
ana pes rights what CONTEND for claim 70 seSt
my own hook disclaming all copsrtnership assocs-
TONS voluntary involuntary. which do without es
highly respectable gentlemen undsrwritsr merchants
and shpcwnsrs. who have voluntarily created board
Coisr and Easairsr, with the jsrrnsi Of csmMeres
shall make such an issue between us have ali
the mercantile and shipping interest Of the country
have no quarrel with the merchants and underwrters
snd 90 not intend the psYs in question shall create one
creating the commissioners for licensing pilots were
honorable men, and were no doubt operated upon by
good motives, and from just desire to protect by pro.
per precautions their INN sdiate interest That he
commissioners created by them have also done their du
yond what tho New York pilots have said and sworn to-
Can the Journal c Commerce undertake to say that the
authority sw Where aid the sscrstasvP % tSs
Navy ma law Of Congress authorizing him to appoint
Commodore jacob Jones . commissioned Where il
thorizing the board Of underwriters and chamber Of
commerce 70 appoint Messrs. Marshall Taylor, Blunt,
and sturges. commssionersi Can these gentlemen en-
obedience to their by any legal steps what
everf Not at ALL We have yet to learn whether Com.
SSTs M iS snns
| those Of Captain Marshall and Mr. Taylor appeared
more or less nominnly commissioners At least the p
ots clear them from active with their
busness The Journal says the only profit derived by any
OF the officials Of this voluntary arrangement IL the sas
ry Of the secretary Mr. Blunt which amounts 81 0OO
"a very small hole to creep out at" 1t will be easy to
make i large enough for Daniel Lambert 70 crawl
Now addition the salary Of $1,000, the commission.
ers claim to exact per cent from the business Of all
.1 81 and a
ing bushes. 10 New YORK SsrSor were to submit to
gathered from hs business q. two per The p
lots doing businsss at this port stand as foows-vz
New York pilots. .................. 81
Created or licensed By the commissioner. Il
When the old state law was in force the earning. Of
this class OF persons amounted to- in the gross, about
from the pilots The business Of pilotage for the port
harbor Of New York. for the year s45 in the hands
Of the ias pilots, was estimated At about 100000 Two
commissioners, the officers Of the voluntary sssoca-
ton Per annum besides the fees recsivsd Qa6
captains licsnssd to pilot their own vessels II this Is
free trade could i fully carried ouwe profess not to
r9sr than
TO- another Notwithstanding, however, that the
ms:ionsrs q the association admit masters Of vessels to
their by;l.wsp. 81 This foe would amount 70 % on
vessels come within this tonnage here We see an az
tempt made to take away from the pilots altogether
4 r.
nurs, Of the pilots, forward, and in the pre-
Of witnesses of the highest responsibility told me
with Capt surgis for the privilege Of carrying YES
out to sea. The Secretary, Mr. Blunt this state
%sns being published came aus,;.S forward with de-
Tunass. vh other Nov York s po s' . a1ia aspss
Of Martin Grey, Swiss. or German licensed as
pilot by the commissioners Of the voluntary association
and that he carried vessel given him by Captain
l ha ivid
Cd his feel: for the privilege Of carrying her out They
nave to SUPPLY me Th an adsv for my lot
not allow 70 say to-day than to notice that the
very system the association is pursuing towards the p
hsretofors existing. For instance. what nducemsn i
there for the Jersey City commissioners pilots go
ssy wit.
which the New York pilots have boarded, perhaps in
with favorable wind tide and weather Il s an easy mat
ter to carry vessel out Any master might do this As
derwriters insert clause in their policies to the effect
that they will pay no os;e. on vessels &c. damaged in
to this what would be the rSsy Sss
not venured TO do this however they have been told
would insure their vessels somewhere else But Il such
the case suppose amerchant Of Now York nsurss
Orleans or Savannah and takes in 900 bsss Of cotton
shipped by merchant on the spot who insures the
in local office. and that when she comes within one
hundred miles Of Sandy Hook, New York pilot sHsrs
services and refused, and that before the captain
can and one Of Captain sturge Or comnissoners pilots
of this vessel would from the underwriters but
the Of the cotton could also recover from tho
in force in the absence Of any law Of own
would release the insurers In New Orleans or Savannah
vices and had been refused Does mot the possbity Of
such case imply the want Of general law, defining
the Ss dnss .S me- Of ,SS' ana how far
L
New YoRx, Feb 6, 1885,
Tax New Yoax PlLors, ONCE MORE only one point
remains to be set right this controversy. When Mr.
Tunure stated that commissioners pilot divided his
% s hEs S
gsn,lsmsn If there aisehoodn or discrepancy in The
statement II rests with VIM. r. Tunure, and not with
Morgan !" and the Courier went beyond what due
70 couItssy and good breeding when II said Morgan"
Morgan" Is incapable Of uttering alsehood" the
Courier IL Of writing without MISREPRESENTATION. II
ME- Tunure declared to b the case and that 10 an ada
Wit produced By the pilots bearing on the point at ssus
this ayy ~ F.
could in no way have been chargsable with II Mr. Tu
l. at present in w,ssingoA and can speak for him
the adavi leaving the opponents Of the pilots to make
70 ali vAom il doth OF may concern This is to certify
that the day and date hereof personally appeared be-
fore Josiah ~ Clarke, public notary in and for the
city ofMsw York. Henry Van Fleet who depcseth and
the said Van Fleet was In conversation with Martin
Gray. who has license from the merchants commits.
sioner Of the port Of New York to act pilot the
said Martin Gray stated to deponent that he had paid
per cent Of his earnings to Captain Sturges
5ecretary to the Board Of Commissioners.
~ ~ "HENRY 8. VAN FLEET.
"Sworn TO- this the ID day Of January ls46, before
"JOSIAH NJ CLARKE, Public Notary"
Captain strrges ono Of the commissioner who may
have also acted secretary to the board The pilots
say he pilot beat which he lets to pilots
German, who was apprentice In Of their boats
stated that he gave twenty per cent for the hire Of
boat IL this Be added the fee Of thirty6vs per cent
would swell the amount to sixty per cent, leaving for
~ per cent Tor himself On vessel drawing IA feet 1t
per loot the plotage would Be about S2s for coming
would have received 81 20 for his services while $40
80 would have gone to the other parties.
That the New York merchants and underwriters, a.
well a the New York pilots In seeking the repeal efths
State law last year. (so much complained of did give