The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-01-04

ing notice of the termination of that convention Of ree
one nation and the territory of another It is not con-
venton or treaty Of joint occupation u treaty
thorising the exercise Of commercial right Of the right
OF navigation OF the right Of treaty stipulation with the
Indians either side and q treaty which precludes
permanent and exclusive occupation by either party.
Is precisely tee exclusive occupation which cannot be
assumed by either Of the parties without this notice
given twelve months beforehand In my estimation in
that the notice must be sivsn. When this notice Il
given twelve months AFTER the right will accrue TO this
Country Of occupying part which they think proper
last session of Congr s., myself moved first section
of that bill and that this notice should be given
House believe, passed biI Without ever including
the notice in it. The gentleman from Illinois can soy
whether this is correct
Mr. DOUGLASS explained that on subsequent day the
gentleman from Massachusetts offered the amendment
for the notice. and it was adopted
Mr. C. j. SGERsoLL-Anda at the very last moment,
Ma. ADAMs-However that was, it was adopted at the
close OF the action the bill but the bill did pass
FIRST section Of the bill and then declared myself ready
to give the notice to Great Britain the termination OF
and Of s ,n
first measure which to be followed Afterwards by the
real occupation Of the whole territory Applause and
cappng Of hands upon the floor and in the galleries,
deem it Indispensable CONTINUED Mr.. Al that the
notice shall be given for it and what the gentleman
from Illinois said is somewhat in coincidence with my
own impressons-that there is game playing. know
nothing about it but somewhat surprised to hear
his day that the Committee on Foreign Affairs would
not report this notice.
Mr. C. }. IseERsolL intsrposed. remarking that that
had been said by no member OF the committee.
Mr.. ApAMs-Iheard II from Of the committee but
the report is extremely current.
MIR. DOUGLASS explained lest Mr. Adams might have
him. that he had made such declaration
Mr. c. ). IsogRsoLL-Ccrsainy, no person is autho.
Mr.. ADAMs-But have heard it from great variety Of
quarters and if Is delay much longer shall believe
it, should deeply regret il, majority of this
mittss were now prepared to give this notice and for
the reason that in estimation Is the first Of all the
measures to be taken, and all the rest depend upon
and, while talking Of regiments Of infantry and
Notifications Of sto kade FORTS sappers and miners
Great Britain arming her and her ships Of the
line and gates and sending on her troops here to BE-
ready for that may happen in consequence Of
this difference OF opinion am very DESTROYS that th.
notice should be gwen Immediately without delay and
be suspended in order to introduce the notice.
The SPEAKER minded the gentleman that tho gentle.
man from Massachusetts, had not yielded the floor.
Mr. ADAMS proceeded further to say that he scarcely
to s Win Of
he should the very ns day OF the session, have
we'd that this nece be given because he had profound
opposed to any measure Of hostility, showing dis
position for hostility until this step first taken SO
long the convention existed long the notice is
not given, long he could vos for increase Of the
army navy for all these other depended
TINS NOTICE. Now this Pill was to be made the SPECIAL
50 arranged by those who managed the affairs OF this
this question Of the notice to be given oGreat
taken first before any thing else. Let it be made the
special order Of tho day for, in his opinion, they
the increase of the defences OF the country until
give this notice did not follow that there would be
take possession of the country We would only say to
Great Britain after negotiating twenty years under
made ana We az not
possession OF our own II we have to settle what is our
own or whether any portion belongs to you've may ne
That was the military way OF doing business
|. was the way il which Frederick il. Of Prussia
had negotiated with the Emperor Of Austria for ST.
lesia. tMr. gave account Of the interview Of Ere.
derrick the Great with the Austrian minister and of the
fact of Frederick having his troops to take posses
sion of that province the very day that he had sent his
minister to Vienna to negotiate for He said he hoped
the first step taken would be to give in tho most solemn
our elbows clear, and could do as pleased II did
not follow as necessary consequence that we should
a consequence, and q very immediate But whe-
1nes we give ne notice or not it did not necsssari
eSo s.aw 70 as aks AS'y an Great
and then to commence hostilities, why, had been
told that there would be but heart in this
try and God Almighty grant that it might be SOL But
this should be We should hear of these
extraordinary terrors Of the part of the gentle
man from South Carolina, whose course the Texas
question had been contrasted with his position this
question. How gallant the gentleman was at the time
that Texas was 10 question: not for him TO say He
did not wish to draw any comparison dirpo
stion OF members of this House for the acquisition Of
eSas and shsnos acquisition outtaans our OWL Of
forbid and Of which, by the way he had no
apprehension whatever, he hoped the whole country
hand and ii that were done, be presumed the question
between us and Great Britain would not last long,
tudo would long remain to Great Britain. Strong as
was his moral aversion to modern and military
estabshmens then If he should have the breath Of life
at the time when the war commences, he hoped he
should be able and willing to 60 far in any sacrifices
to make the successful any member Of
this House He could say no more. He now said. and
he repeated, that until the notice was given to Great
Britain no was not prepared to for any Of the subse
priey, without waiting Tor the eject Of me notice,
extend to our countrymen, who in possession
Of parts Of that tsrrtoryparts not claimed ny Great
country in any fern which msy be necessary. But he
saw no necessity for an increase Of the army at
Of disposition nor did he suppose that they
cupation Of the territory, he did suppose some
additional force would BIO necessary for the army and
increase Of the military forces Of the country he thought
he should overcome the difficulties in the way especially
on the on the Of Great Britain 70 take
ally that of the increase Of our military forces must de-
pend the notice to Great Britain that this state
should no longer continue that would not have our
hands and feet tied on this subec that the notice
be given and be free to act as we shall think
interest and the rights Of the country require He
thought time for this House to begin to consider
what was due to that portion of our countrymen
who were in one and another portion Of that terri.
tory. They oughtto know who they He confessed
he was very imperfectly informed the subject; and
neither from Lieut.. Wilkess exploring expedition or
from Lieut. Fremont Journal could he gain this infor
nation, which the most needed He referred to the
memorial which had been presented by the chairman
Of the session, from American citizens in Oregon
and to another memorial the subject, which had
not been presented 10 the House. promising to mpar
something Of the desired information and he repeat
ed that he was In favor Of protecting them fa we
could protect them He believed he had sail all he pro-
posed 10 this subject The material thread
Of his observations first to give notice Great Bril-
tain to terminate this convention the first
sure and after that would for
tho protection of citizens such as the
Of stockade forts and other relating to the in
crease Of our military establishment,for he against
all these, unless the convention first terminated
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