New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-02-20


of the world Qusrrels nigh. take place between ciler
ent nations but those grea; nations united "ouid
prevent There was paragraph IN tne speech re-
.errnr TO the state OF relations with the l states
and he ust say that he thought her Majesty express
ATOMS or this subject highly proper and becoming ne
thou aht too that the paragraph which recoinenoe an
increase in the army and navy Oh oee
der the circumstances in the whole speech ana ne saw II
with considerable qualification when ne iounc the Cnlei
Magistrate of great country from wnotn ne eHpeceu
better things venture 10 set at nausnt ali lnose Iu aug
reyrations which civilized nations observed toward
each other IL would be acting contrary to the whole
tenor of his life which had been the most eicien use
full and proper powers OF the Government not 70 ap-
prove Of this part OF the speech ana ne was sure inert
Vas disposon on the part Of the House 10 place at
her Msiesiy command those means which would main
tain the honor of the country.
Sir Robert Peel never enter tue signe7t ap
nrehension that any contrast between the language en-
moved in her Majesty speech In reference TO those I'M
fortunate disputes that still prevail between this country
and America and which has been used oy the Chle
Magistrate of United States would have been maze
in this House. never thought thst tnat could nave
been mistaken misrepresented. we nave no hesl'a'
ton in announcing sincere desire Tor the interests
of ths country for the interests OF tue luited
r the interests of the civilized world in continuing TO
strain every effort which consistent with national non
or for the purpose Of aInlcaby Terminating those us
putcs never had any apprehension that our intentions
or our language would be mlsrepresented; and the
sneech which the Eon gentleman (Mr Hume. the uni
form and consistent advocate Tor the strlcest economy
has Just made confirms that my anuclpatlons VIII
be disappointed And II any proposal WHICH ner VIA
jeatys Government may feel 1t their duty To make TOT
the maintenance Of essential rights, or OF the national
honor shall be responded and supported by this House
then let me not be mistaken think It would De the
greatest misfortune il contest about the Oregon be-
tween two such powers as England ana the tniteo
States could not blythe exercise OF moderation ana gooo
senee be brought TO perfectly honorable ana sausiac-
tory conclusion
THE OREGON AND RIVER PLATE QUESTIONS
Lord John Russell said he not about 10 alude to
those subjects which had been before the House last
night but there two questions IN that part OF the
speech from the throne which related to our foreign re-
latons which he wished TOR some explanation upon
First with regard the Oregon Question. be entirely
participated in the feelings Of the Right Hon. gentleman
both that peace with the United States was most desira-
BILE and thai ought TO do nothing that was nconss
tau with the honor of this country But certain state
rnens had been put forth in America and mad been re-
ported have been made TO the Congress OF the Inted
states which made it desirable that some explanation
should be given the subject. He had thought that
the President of the United States had last year made
declarations Congress on this subject which were not
conformabe 10 the usages OF civilized countries or to the
friendly relations of the States but would appear
however that proposition for compromise mad been
made from the President to her Maiestys Government
and he Lord John Russe) conceived that that PROPOSE
ton had changed the state of the question
TIE proposition itself might be satisfactory or not
satisfactory but having been made, il did appear TO
him to require statement from those in authority in
this country Of the terms which they would be SAILS
fled settle this question. That proposition as ne I'M
derR,ood had not been received by her Maestys Gov
ernment but had been declared 10 be totally nadmiss
BILE BIZ our Minister in America He lord John RusseD
confessed he thought that nasty proceeding on the
part of the representative of her Majesty in the United
States But what he wished TO ask was, whether the
negotiations had recommended or were going ont he
DESTROYS that the papers should be presented to
the House he willing to leave the negotiation in
OF her Majcstys Government until they could
stale that satisfactory result had been attained before
ne asked for any information of the particular state OF
the negotiations. One word with respect to what had
fallen from the Hon. member from Montrose. Her Ma
esy required the attention of the House 70 the increase
in the estimates which provided for the efficiency OF the
military and naval services.
He could well understand that with the increased pos
sessions of this country abroad and the consequently in
creased demands the services of our military and ma
forces in every part of the world there might be rea
sons for the increase of the estimates even at season OF
profound peace. and when nothing threatened on any
side and he trusted that il these grounds and
not account any thing in the aspect OF affairs with
reference the United States, that her Malestys Gov
eminent had made this increase He for his part had
for time thought that the efficiency OF the military
force of this country at its present amount was loo mrch
tried and that much demanded from that force
His second question this Her Majesty stated that
for several years desoaiiDc and sanguinary warfare
Ind afflicted the States OF the Rio de la Plata and was
farther stated that her Majesty cndeavorln5 10 effect
the paccaton of those He ord John Russelll
understood that the endeavor to effect pacicaon had
been prosecuted by of warlSe measures ana ne
somewhat doubted whether that was the right mode OF
proceeding.
II was true it was stated that the commerce OF all na:
tions had been interrupted But wss farther stated
that of great b6rbarity had been coutnltteo uh
known to the practice of civilized people" Acts OF bar
barity certainly very dreadful things; but ne
doubted whether it wise in heT Majestys Govern
nent that ground OF forclbc Intervention
They had heard-;hough ho would lot name the coun-
tries in which they had taken tne had heard
Of dreadful Of barbsrity in other parts OF the world
and certainly he had not heard proposed by wise states
man that there should be intervention in these coun
tries The question which he had 10 submit 10 the hight
Hon haronet was whether he proposed TO lay on the Ia
bic any papers explanatory of the ground upon ~aich
her Maesty's Government thought 1t necessary TO inter-
ere with the warfare which had occurred IN the states
of The Rio de Ia Plata?
Sir Robert Peel.-With reference TO the question
just put by the noble Lord beg TO say that not fore
seeing that he would put il am not at present pre-
pared to give him answer and have therefore to crave
that he will postpone mis- question until another hme.
On the subject of the Oregon Territory, have to state
that proposition made by Mr.. Buchanan with the
authority of the President Of the United States to Mr.
Pakenham. and the proposal so made suggested oil.
vision OF the Territory. Whether or not that proposal
ought to have accepted cannot say. Mr.. Paken-
ham thought that the terms proposed we're so niue
likely be acceptable that he did not feel himself war
ranted in transmitting the proposal to the Government
home; and on signifyng this to Mr. Buchanan the
latter Immediately stated thatthe proposal was wnura"n
This is the of the negotiation at present so lar as
am informed respecting the proposal submitted by Mr.
buchanan. | have the highest opinion OF Dir. Paken-
ham have the greatest respect for his talents aud The
greatest confidence in his Judgment yet must say
that would have been better had he transmitted that
proposal to the Home Government for,ther considera
ton and if found in itself unsatisfactory 1t might pos
siby have formed the foundation for farther proposal
Since that period ths country has again repeated 10 the
United States their offer OF referring the matter to arb
traton but has yet been received to the pro-
posal made With respect to the proposed increase
in the naval and military estimates ii is impossible for
any to the progress OF steam navigation and the
continued increase OF colonial possessions without
the time seeing the necessity for increase in
cur naval and military establishments
Within the les, few months the colony of New Zea
land has made heavy demand upon in this respect
snd the continual drain made upon troops
count of the necessary relief in other possessions
great THAT il is almost impossible 20 MI up reg
men,s think that even while we have the utmost con-
fdence in the intentions of foreign powers, we would
no, be wise neglect the defences of country and
render it against any possible contingency
say then. that the proposed increase in the estimate
may be entirely justified purely defensive grounds
and that her Majesty Government have felt il their duty
10 propose increase OF the estimates for Naval
Military, and Ordinance Establishments, without refer
encc to the dispute With the United States.
REPEAL OF THE CORN-LAwS, sc.
Opening Of SIR Robert Peel's Budget.
LONDON, Jan 9th 1916
The House Of Commons was filed al an early
hour At 20 minutes o'clock Sir Z. Peel moved
ths The order OF the day be read for the House resolving