The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-06-13

the Senate
The amendment INN ealateiy in order tho pro
vision OF the House that these extra Major and Brgacer
Generals shall he discharged at the close OF the war
ngton so modifying the discretion OF the President in
the ultimate discharge OF these officers that nsteai OF
being unlimited provided by the House. shall be
exercised ~ with the advice and consent of the
Senate
MIR. MoRvHEsp concluded his argument commenced
YESTERDAY in defence fAir. Huntngton's proviso.
Mr.. HusriScroS followed on the same side
MIR. DIX was understood to advocate the leaving the
question OF discharge Of these officers to the future
ton Of the government
MIR NJ CLAYTON passed from a general discussion Of
the amendment to review Of the and provoca-
tons OF the Mexican war and to certain structures upon
the conduct of the Executive Cover in its minis
terial cor, espoudence with Mexico Of unrgheously
provoking this collision between the countries lie
opening Of the session in the discussion OF Oregon
question: that necessary prepare the hearts Of
severity on the sentiments o the Chairman on To-
Mir ArIrS reioined in defence OF the administration in
its conduct Mexico and its defence OF himself and
his declarations TIE movements Of the army OF
awar bv restraining the Mexican to their own terri
tory In the presence OF the army OF the United States
pidy 10 cross side of the river; would they
have been eg,egously blind they not secretly
or ehSSs 10 ny area. Blum Mr Allen
this subject Of preparing the hearts Of the people for
war "a declaration which he was understood to dclam,
he would not now ret.act lie would make rctrac-
ton, unless convinced of wrong. He re-
GREETED that the Senator frop Delaware shoull have
Administration
Mr. ~ cIArro@, in reply, said tina, the Senator from
Ohio had charged him with making this amendment the
pretcXt of an a tack upon the Administration
Mr. AlL.s- did not mean TO give any offence to the
Senator said text ami not pretext II the text
Mr. CLArros-" eli then, the text-and the Senator
resumed the old point in dispute Of preparing the
upon his own opinion regarding this declaration He
would leave 1t to Senator the floor at the tmeto
from Ohio at the gnin3 of this session. had de-
eared N debate that was necessary to prepare the
Mr. ALlEs said that that had reference the Next
can war II was upon the Oregon question and referred
Mr.. CLARION conten led that whether with nexico or
Oregon, II made no difference The Senator had made
the duty of Congress prepare the hearts Of
the people for war" II is the duty of the people pre-
pie require preparation Their hearts are always
ready, Mr.. G. then resumed his complaints against the
suI' being IN persisting upon the reception OF full
minister. when Mexico demanded a commissioner or
GARY between the two countries
MT McDufr'E said, that il but 20 minutes to
sc.csS the hour OF limitation allowed for this bill lie
hoped the bill would I've disposed OF in that time
a MEMBtR, (asidel-1hats good speech.
Mr. AHcHEH consi erred the amendment Of the House
Of the largest importance
Mr. McDUrTis concurred bat he thought the opinions
OF Senators were made up
Mr. ARCHER argued that the power Of Congress over
these appointments was unquestionable.
Mr Johnson, of Maryland. di think il now neces
sary ~ dlscussthe constitutional question.
Mr.. CALHOUN concurred Nor was this the time to
make the res uctions CONTEMPLATED There would he
time enough for that hereafter.
Mr. ARCHER called for the ayes and noes Ordered.
The amendment OF Mr. Huntington read. providing
mat the selections of geneIa officers retained shall be
Tade from tho whole number, by and with the advice
and consent OF the senate. Lost 30 to 81.
Mr. ALI. moved 10 strike out at she termination of
the war with Mexico" and insert No re- toration
ofpeace the period when the reduction of Major and
Biigadicr Generals shall take place.
Mr.. HANsEoAN-I desire that the Senator from Ohio
will state from what other quarter he expects be-
Mr. ALLAN VS. Of the opinion that the re was a proba.
biluy oia war with England and it might be in force
after the termination of ih with Mexico: in which
case, these officers would have be dsbanded al The
very time their services most required under
provisions Of the bill We knew what might turn up.
Events we're hurrying us along. The with Mexico
was not anticipated until within sixty o,he decar.
alton.
Mr. AscnEn moved TO strike ont the provision pro.
leaving that matter to the action OF Congress
Mr. p.. But suppose the necessity should occur in
whole amendment OF the House.
Win sone further conversation between Messrs.
Archer and Dx, the entire amendment Of the House
giving the President the discretion without
OF commission to discharge at the Of the W ar the
extra number OF the rank Of these hereby appointed
so the authority for the discharge of these ra gene
rails by the amendment to be retained in the hands of
The vote on the amendment Of the House for four cx
ira Aauant Generals, was reconsidered and the prov
sion agreed to-
The question was next upon agreeing to the House
amenimsn' reducing the Major Generals the
from four to two.
And the vote was reconsiiered by which this amend
ment was yesterday rejected and the ame ndment was
thus brsught again before the Senate.
pr Whsrcorr was opposed to the two Majar Gene
ras extra anu the iour Brgaiiers as passed by the Sc
nate and in favor of the House amendment, reducing the
number one half he had objected the senate num-
tor from New York Gar Dix on the naked dec larstion
that II was the bill Of the administration Mr.. W. here
read from manuel of the from law
Of Parliament OF 1888 by which it was made funis.
mental breach OF privilege in any member report any
anencins the votes OF other members ILaug.terl Now
ne CIR W. ~sre satisfied upon any measure like this
that the administration in Of a ,,riicular pro-
vision he would be strongly incline go from
the TACT vi the superior OF information 18th the
Executive government upon the subject, But what he
objected to was the manner which this informant Of
the necessity for two Major Generals and four
g..iers had been communicated to the senate. lie
opposed to these Underground motions lie would not
sanction any thing they might mend II ON the Tx
ecuuvs unless II ma' put down in black ana white and
inismush as the President hal made communication
Ia this instance he opposed ~ DIVISION
nate We had had no communication from the Execu-
i've only verbal authority from OF his subordinates
lie was therefore, opposed to the increase hey ond the
House amendment and asked for the a, es and noes
Mr. DIX ON behalf vi the Military Committee said the
oi was framed after full consultation with the War
Department These additions to the general officers are
deemed by tho department essential bring the
successful and speedy termination He aid not say so
20 influence the vote OF any member this floor; but
simply to present to the Senate the authority upon
founded. '
Mr.. HAssEeAS desired to ask single question of the
senator from New York s there any message from the
President Secretary of War before the asking
Tor this increase?
MIR. DII.-There is not sir
Mr. MISUNDERSTANDING but mere verbal communi.
cation II tho President Secretary Of War desire any
In rease Of tho army 1t is only fair proper that they
should communicate their opinions in writing
MIR DIX replied, that in the usual way, the committee
had hold conference with the War on the
subject; and the bill Of the Senate. bill the
War Department
Mr. srv,Es appealed that there lack of courtesy
In discredting the frank and repeated state ments o
nemberof a committee The Senator from New York
Lni told them OF the conference of committee with
the department. ai this had been the invarable prac
tice.
Mr. HssyreaS declared that the Senator from Arkan-
sas had inexperienced his views There was no gen.
tlcrnan in the world in whose veracty placed high
er estimate thar that Of the Senator from New York
1n, said Mr. II look 20 something else The day will