The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1846-04-07


bility when an individual came over the line, snatch
him up and try him for a murder Had not the
British people right TO be iacensed in that easei
Suppose the United States government had inya-
dod any part Of tho British tenitory--for
reprisal, on just grounds Of retaliation
an any way, but under the authority Of the United
States, and suppose that the act was ayowed, re-
fused the demand for negotiation, and said they
were ready TO meet itin such case A that, II the
British government had lain still for three years,
and then seized one of that invading party, and
threatened to hang him-hs would put il 70 ALL
would not war be declared in six hours Would IL
% Submitted TO for momsnti Was there man
base enough 10 say that he would not have made it
the cause OF ware No--aot man with an Amer-
can neau IN his bosom would have remained silent
and inactive for moment when he saw his govern
ment treated In such Outrageous manner. Well
then, did not the administration Of Gen. Harrison
aci arighti What then, was the lust responsibility
that Great Britain had taken upon horsefa She
had made an aggression upon the United States by
entering iis territory for a belligerent purpose
hey had invated the sanctity of is territorial rights
Az 10 the mere destruction Of the vessel IL perpe-
,raisd on the Canadian side, IL would have been
qaite jus,hAblc. The pessoas engaged in that ves-
eel were, Il was to be remembered, violating tho
laws Of their own country--soms of them suffered
for that, and he wished al had suffered.
Mr.. ALLEN here dssised TO know where the
proof was Of the fact that tbs Caroline was 30 en-
gagedl Was there any record of the facti
\ Mr.. WEBSTER. Yes. lThsss was proof
abundant proof The fsct than shs vessel was so
engaged, was, he believed, prvtsy well proved by
he lss@l and oonviesisa Of Ven Rsnsselaer. But
BESIDES there abundant proof in the Depart
pent Of State, in the evidences taken in Canada by
the authorities there and sent 10 Great Britain and
which could be confirmed by anybody who lived
anywhere from Buffalo down TO Schlosser. Ii was
proved by the rsgsas. What was the condition ofthe
caroliuei Mr., Stevenson said that she was cleared
al Buffalo IN the latter part OF December, making
the best be could for the United States to ply
between Buffalo and Schlosser, on the same side Of
the river a few miles below Lord Palmerston,
With his usual sarcasm, and with more than
usual occasion for the application Of that sarcasm,
said, ct was very true she was cleared out but
Nr Stevenson forgot that she cut out Of the ice
in which she had been laid up for the winter, and
that in departing from Buffalo, instead Of going
down TO Schlosser, she went down to Navy island"
and his lordship asked, "What now outbreak Of
traffic made Il necessary TO have a steamboat plying
q the depth of winter between Buffalo and Schlos-
ser, when exactly between those two places on the
shore there was very convenient railroad" He
that 10 the consideration of-the chairman Of the
Committee on Foreign Relations! And, as further
evidence, he would state the entire omission Of the
government of the United States, during the whole
Of MIR. Van Buren's administration, TO make any
demand for reparaton for the property destroyed.
was never made. But one thing he did very well
remember, and that was, that person who had
some interest in the property came then to the city
Of Washington, and thought Of making an applica-
ton TO the government in the time Of Mr.. Van Blu
rem. Well, he was told that the sooner he shut his
tongue that subject the better for he himself know.
ing that the purpose which the vessel had been APP
piled came within the purview Of the statutes Of the
United States against fitting out hostile expeditions
against countries with which the United States
xrer M uaa lab tn and h.
ever afterwards, profting by the friendly admon-
ton, held his peace That was another piece of
evidence which he respectfully submitted to the con-
sidcration of-the charmanof the Committee on For
eign Relations! Well, then to proceed. There
were gentlemen in the cabinet OF Gen. Harrison not
unknown to eminence in their profession, and they
and Gen. Harrison concurred in the opinion that the
proceedings against Mcleod were unlawful. Gen.
Harrison felt as military man; his feeling, such,
was touched, and gave him strong perception of
the great improperly of the proceedings against
Mcleod. The case went on in the courts of New
York. He (Mr. W. was greatly surprised at the
decision Of the courts Of New York on the applca-
ton for habsas corpus. On the peril Of his profes-
sisna reputation he affirmed that the opinion Of the
court Of New York in that case was not a re-
spectacle opinion. Mcleod was acquitted; in
fact, there was proof of his being guilty. Well,
did not Congress then pass act that If such
should hereafter occur, they should be placed within
the jurisdiction Of the United States That was a
foundation of the government, that the judicial
power Of the government must be coextensive with
the legislative power-that il, that when the exer-
else of legislative and executive powers to be
discussed upon questions Of legality and llegality,
and when any question touching the duties Of this
government in treaties of peacetreales of alliance
on any branch of its foreign relatons-came to be
discussed, the final decision of that question must
be within the supreme judcature under this govern
ment, or else the government was a mere fiction
,xf IL L
take some notice Of what had been said on the
subject Of the rAshburton. treaty, and the
pondence accompanying the negotiation of that
treaty. 20. ...ala.la al ind. r........ .....
The honorable senator from Ohio, [Mr. ALIEN
bestowed, believe, (said Mr.. W. a very conside-
rable degree of attention upon topics connected
with the treaty Of Washington, II so happened
that my engagements did not permit me to be in
the Senate during the delivery of any consider
able portion of that speech. l was in here occa-
sionally, however, and heard some portions of it,
and also illusions to it. / have not been able
to find any particular account of that portion of the
honorable members remarks. In the only printed
speech which / have been able to lay my hands on,
it is said that he took occasion to speak in general
terms, of various topics--enumerating them--em-
braced in the treaty of 1912. As have not seen
these remarks, therefore, shall not now undertake
to make any further ausion to them. If l should
happen to see them hereafter, 80 far as may be-
lieve that they have not been answered by what /
nave drcsuy Soiu, may peInupb, ucciu IT. Worh
while to embrace some opportunity of taking such
notice Of them as to mefhey may seem to require
Mr.. ALLEN. will'now state for the satisfaction
Of the senator, the general substance of what said
on the subject. If he 50 desires, will now pro-
coed to do so. ny b19.5- 4. t..'.-s ...+
Mr.. WEBSTER. think that upon the whole,
when the gentleman will furnish the public with a
copy Of his speech, l may perhaps have the proper
opportunity to pay attention to it as i may require,
especially as | have to say something Of other
speeches which may at present occupy as much of
the time of the Senate can well be devoted to this
subject. An honorable member from New York
nearest the chair Mr.. DrcKIssos] made speech
this subject. propose To take some notice of that
speech. But first | may remark that the honorable
gentleman did not seem to be satisfied with his
light; he borrowed somewhat extensively. He Dor
rowed and incorporated into tis speech, by way of
note, what he entities, EXTRACTS from the speech Of
Mr.. G. j. Ingerso in the House Of Representatives.
Speaking Of the Mcleod affair, Mr.. Ingersou said"
Well, then, my first business is to examine little