The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-10-09
BY THE M AXIS.


Speech before the Commissioners-7neir Rejoinder-
His Sur Rejoinder, &c, &c.
A beautiful Indian summer morning.
The IT, s. Commissioners and the delegation Of the
Winnebago chiefs, met for the fifth time. The meeting
was convened at 10 o'clock in the Apollo Hail. large
and respectable auditory OF citizens were present
The Indians were seated line of benches forming
three sides Of hollow square, the Commissioners with
their table and secrearys table occupyng the head of
the ROOM the natives being before them in three dyi-
sons to the 'front.' to the right and TO the le
Mr. A. X. PARRrs, for the United States, opened the
talk Brothers ut our last council. you submitted a
proposition to us in writing, and wished 10 it
in writing We took the contents OF your paper into
terday. We informed last evening. through your
agent that you wished to meet us again in council this
hear any thing further you may have to say
When Mr.. Lowery the interpreter, had finished the
baso, there a general exclamation of " Hew -
Vow" which was repeated OF frequent intervals
Little Hill stepped forth into the ring to reply. He
had evidently expended unusual care upon his toilet
this ns w
mingled pink and blue ribands in front surmounted by
copious plume of peacock feather His plated queue
back to within loot of the floor. lie around his
neck necklace Of at least hundred strings of small
front covered nearly the whole of his expansive chest
His left cheek was painted deep red upon his right
drawn the figure OF an open hand in sky blue. His
ears were adorned each with handful of bits Of shining
tin. Excepting these various ornaments he was naked
blue running round to the back in rays; his back
painted red A broad waisband OF embroidered
bead work sustained his breechng of blue cloth From
his right side depended chain Of small gingling bells
Ills leggns, full length, were of buckskin ornamented
hung Onward within three inches Of his beaded mecca
Now, if you can imagine stout, active, athletic
Of Ave is "a ns's @
the chief orator of the Wnnebagoes as he appeared be-
fore the commissioners to-day u was clearly percepti.
making him some little presents, in testimony of their
appreciation of his style as public speaker.
many Of our brothers and sisters; and salute yeu all
smiled upon us again. and given beautiful day.
Brothers. is favorable and we hope to accomplish
You last evening that desired to you again
day Brothers, you have come; and We hope that in
Su, sp ssre sent us
proposition, and you expect to hear from US reply
You shall hear us now Brothers! may be useless to
Father above that gave us all our country 1t Wac
among the best portions Of all the lands He made for
it to us-not only fine country, but rich country
rich in Mines and in soil. This was our coun-
our white brothers a country to themselves. Bro
theirs the time that we speak Of was when we own
ed ali our country that the Great Spirit to We
were then not few weak as you see US now--the
Winnebagoes strong numerous powerful and
happy But our white brothers came among us to take
away our lands Brothers. it is from that day that
date our misery decline and our downfall Before
began to give our 20
then we have diminished TO lew We gave TO our great
father, through our brother Gov Dodge rich country
If was SO rich mines that though has been Dug all
over the mineral 10 not yet gone The earth Is sh full
Of We gave to Great Father all that fine country
We rave 10 HIM beautiful and rich country Rock
river Brothers you know that the kind of propositions
he made " then better than this you offer 1t was
better treaty than Great Father willing to make
with US now We the third time to our Great
Father at Washington Yin 80? we had talks with him
the spirit IN which he meets We always heard the
wishes Great Father for we have always thought
he disposed to be liberal 70 ms leo sna 70
country in 81. our Great Father said he would be
pleased If would give it to him; and he told us that
child left of the wnnebsgo he never would trou
Bile any for any Of our lands lie told =. that
and white children forever He told US that we should
never be asked to 60 further Three years after we were
called upon 10 remove twenty miles westwsrd-we had
no right 10 the Mississippi and We now removed
twenty miles from the river Brothers we cannot agree
buy Of us Il not worth than you propose 70 give
usi II is the best of country west Of the Missis
sp We think II !: worth ' sno ne. wan S.y
area y dispeased the Great Spirit ana tnee ve snal
perhaps dpease him again nu, our ue n % ma
nd remove Our country left US is small but II il rich
It good for u.s. il sustain us we stay Our Great
Father will recuect proportions heretofore made to
u.s. We have refused them four times The first time
the offered in money was greater thsn mat you
unw
lar have our lands diminished in value He offered
$500 900 then and new country worm au ie,s nOE
Brothers We have al S: 70 vi. In HI. late talk
with us he said he wished u: to grow 70 gsss psSps
like his people After all this we are as'onsnsa 70
asr having been offered $500 for T. Brethsr: you
made your brother winnsbsgoes; ieei very ssa yes
ties ~ we died away. Brothers. doe: our Great
Father contemplate the time when we shall be fewer
In numbers even than now are, and the gra-
duation OF our annuities accordingly If he does,
we must say that we think It Is small business
LOT our hat brother on left Major Andrsw
succeeded in treaty with the Pottawatamiss andin
removing them 10 me .;sr trsatv with ne but
you ought to know that from the smailnes OF our mum
6er under such treaty we ave Da ssy ~. ,00n
are soon to become extinct il not reason why he
should rather take better Of NJ while we last in
swsy and becoming helpless and powerlessl Brothers.
you see no among US that can tax az our wnte
brothers can but MADE S SSouS soon die away Bro
Tiers, hope shall come to some conclusion toos{
that we may return home We have rsdu'e' '"' ''p"
TO writing, and should like to have 1t read .,..;.
The orator here shook hands with the Ccn%,s,oner.'
and handed them written paper ana s"' '"'
LITTLE HmI.~Brothers The rod man has but one
mind and tongue You heard our dS rs am sn
other S GAY we rsp to return our homes
After looking over the paper of Little hni one oil The
rose 70 We have our doubts whssr
anv rood will come Of talking Of old papers, old pro-
misses and old wrongs We should never snd me ssk
- ,S;s waywe should get done. We Will there
s ass ali this BY and 30 to business, We will cor
ec one error into which you have fallen In relation
a. Iations about annuifies refer only 10 annui
rs in The treaty about to be made Annuities under old
ire aties are law Of the land We cannot NEEDLE with
them The proposition which you now make, we have
not the ROVER TO accept We will consult your Great
Father, and let you know what he says about it. Here.
hope Of doing business. Response Of" Yohaw,"" hawn
" Ha ha hap -
LrrrLr HrLL after words about old treaties not
distinctly heard, because Of the interruption by other
voices outside the bar, then proceeded. Brothers
II our Great Father has fulfilled all these old treaties
why should you hesitate to talk Of them He then IN
sisted that though these treaties were laws OF the
they had been changed, upon Gov Chambers sno %
Brothers. We supposed that when our Sresn ,sn%
but that in all other respects he would see tnss u.uce
was done to We came with this nopeu,rrI Dsd ~