New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-07-03
New York Constitutional Convention.
FIFTH wEEK-xxyIi7H DAY.

4 ath of July Recess-0ffce OF superyiSor-4
Fourth decentralization Of Governor
Double Alegiance-0nce q Subject always
Subiect-Nr. Angel-Fees Of Surrogates and
County Clerk.-FIagg's Report on Banks and
Currency.
To 80 Edior o. he Tribune:
SIR: The Convention have resolved 10 take re
cess during the Indepepdence holidays. l, viii
give members an opportunity TO converse with their
constituents. and perhaps they will return aud be-
gin 10 look into the appointing power arranging
matters so as that central corruption caused By cen
tralized government mag cease, and the people
themselves be secured in the direct choice Of thei.
judges and officers both general and local with a
proper definition and limitation Of their duties, and
ef;eciuaI checks placed OF The abuse OF al deega-
ted power.
Seventy years ago today tie Revolutionary
Congress bsoted in Philadelphia 70. Commiiee
10 draw up the grea. Proclamation Of The 4ih OF ID
Is, l. To- that America was Independent Nation,
and her principle, Equal Laws and Rights. Messrs.
Jefferson, Adams, Sherman, Franklin, aud R. K.
Livingston were appointed.
Probably al tte hour, Mr. Angel rose today,
70 move that the Fourth Convention TO frame or I'M
prove Constitution for Of the - States OF that
nation, should suspend lis labors on behalf ola more
numerous body than composed the original Coined
erat l. in order that the delegates might take par.
In the 10Th Anniversary OF their nations birth.
The memory of the perilous times OF l116 should
endear the people the peaceful remedy Tor error
and corruption by free Convention, and induce
them to urge their Delegates 10 be sing le.E.nded
and earnest in their efforts 10 provide those checks
4 I'd The nnnd nd freedom
from unsafe restraint the other which are essen
iial TO rational liberty. This is the anniversary OF
the Massacre OF Wyoming, and the battle and cap
ture of A,hone. How grateful we ought TO be
that our pits placed in prosperous, peaceful
and enlightened age!
After the Convention had agreed TO adjoHrn on
Thursday evening Till next Tuesday morning, at 10
o'clock, Mr.. Croker proposed, and i, was resolved
TO refer 10 the 9TH Committee, for inquiring into lis
expedency the question whether the Office of ST.
PEkyIsOR should be abolished, and lis place supplied
bv some less numerous and less expensive body.
Dr. Willard proposed 10 appoint MIR a. n.
Beardsey, The Librarian, &c, fourth Secretary,
which done.
The rest of the day, till the adjournment at two,
was occupied in debating the question OF whether
any and If so, what other qualification than man
hood, citizenship and plenty OF good votes should
be required in candidates for the office OF Governor.
No vote was taken.
In favor of extra qualifications, Messrs. Waterbu-
~, Simmons and Tullmadge addressed the Conven-
ton. Messrs Murphy Patterson and Bascom ar
gued on The other side. Judge Rusgles spoke III
favor of the principle bat admitted that lis appca-
ton 10 the present matter OF expectancy.
took very few notes for the discussion appears
be interminabe, and il is possible we may have
Lew amendments speeches, &c. when the Commit
tee report
Mr. MURPHY showed that they were subvertiug
one government and establishing another-a blood
T. liz, tAra
change the tables of members grooming with let
,ers. newspapers, pamphlets electors travelling hun
dreds Of miles 10 impress their views upon their
Delegates and that pressure from without caused
by the earnest desire the people have 10 obtain
thorough, radical reform Of. existing abuses. de
showed that the restriction, now removed by the
almost unanimous voice Of the people, which re-
quired a man 10 be freebooter before he could be
legally elected TO certain Offices had been practically
disregarded also The requirement that he be OF
certain age.
MIR WATERBURY reasoned in this way that 10
exclude femaes--to declare who ure minors ana
exclude them-and then 10 say that 1t was dHtf-
Republican 10 exclude persons under 80, aid who
had never lived five years in the State, from being
eligible for Governor. seemed 10 him Inconsistent
Ii had been contcnded that foreigner might be
Governor and Commander in Chief after be had re-
sided here q year-and his Mr.. w. three boys
would have to shoulder their muskels and tight
under that foreigner Tor stranger three years be-
for the Constitution would allow them even vote
Was not this an insult
Mr.. YOUNG had recourse TO many new arguments
in favor Of checks. Mr.. PATTERSON combated them
in favor OF freedom OF action.
Judge RuGGLEs said that the doctrine that by
checks we tciter and unduly control the action OF
The People was not correct-it was asserting as
principle that the People can do no wrong. ASK
any Farmer-go into any County and not one VIII
admit iha,--iI is not true. The People like the IN
dividuals who compose IT, are sometimes wrong
occasionally misled by impulse-and when ihey per-
ceive their error they reIrace their steps Inc Con-
venion had assembled to make propositions TO resu
late the action Of the People which were not bind.
ing on them unless they adopted ana approved oil
them The Convention by majority OF voices, or
as the case might be he described, IN substance as
a Committee OF the People appointment 10 propose
and submit 10 them body OF Rules Tor their govern
ment as il had appointed Committee 10 submit
Rules Tor its own GUIDANCE but il was for them 10
say through the baoi.bo8es whether they would
accept and adopt them. He asked whether there
ought not 10 be some general Eulc 10 govern The
People in giving their votes 10 qualify their action
and render 1t sate-and 10 restrain maloriues from
depressing minori,ies! The People, he believed
were prepared to adopt any suitable rule TO prevent
sudden action, ana the only question as II seemed
10 him. WIS., as 10 the expectancy OF the quahhca-
loss now under consideration whether they were
wise and salutary On that he should not offer any
could Judge lor themselves
but he contended iha, the Section should not be
voted against and expunged on the ground that The
Convention would otherwise be imposing improper
restrictions on the action Of the People
Mr.. SNNoNS, OF Essex, discussed the question
at sres, length. and adduced as an argument for
caution and checks where power Is conferred on
foreigners the difficulty that exists on account oil
what he called international law, by which, as in
terpreed by other nations, they owe double ale
glance. Mr.. Simmonss manner was thai OF g states
man. DESTROYS 10 view an important subject II al
its bearings, and act wisely, rather than that OF
heated and preudced partisan, and think ittortunste
tina, he placed the question in this new light De
referred 10 the doctrine of Blackstone thar foreign
ers coming into any country residents are though
naluralized there still held by international law as
subjects owing allegiance and ealty TO The Govern
mem, under which they were born-he showed that
in case of war with foreign power, The State, Il
governed BY gentleman, native citizen or sub
iect of that power, would under this construction
OF the law. be unpleasanty situated with regard 10
the exercise OF bis Important. duties-and be had
~, rae,I,- eurn-isat IN find that the mixed states