The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-04-25
Court or General Sessions.
Before Recorder Scott, and Aldermen Henry and
jackson.
John McKeon, Esqr., District Attorney.

Before Recorder Scott and Aldermen Henry and
jackson.
John McKeon, Esqr., District Attorney.
ArRiL 24-ISiai Of HIM. Mor1el, Continued.
DR HuGH CALpwsLL,. of $50 Broadway, deposed as
follows IL visited Mr. Thomas Maxwell on account Of
injuries he had received my visits were on the
10TH llth and l2th of February, lSa5 went up in the
sleigh Of Mr. Maxwell
JAMES McCuInw, sworn.--I am porter for Mr. Bloom
err packing maker in Gold street. between fulton
and John streets; was there year ego last February
have the witness. Carroll, before but cannot
say where; remember carrying box down to the
corner of Gold and John streets; thiuk the box was
then put in sleigh; never saw Maxwell before now
to my knowledge; the man who bought the box gave
me glass Of beer for carrying il; the witness Carroll
looks like that used to come to the shop to buy
boxes bat could not say whether no the Same man
or not.
HKERY RAMSEY, eramined.-I work for Boomer,
packing box maker; recollec box being sold to the
witness Carols he told Me- CURE to carry II for him to
the of Gold and John Streets it six shilling
box No. sig, as We cali them do not remember any
thing having been said about filing the box with saw
dust; we ali the boxes with dust when it is request
WV. +. sEsRxLL srarsinsd-I am one OF the firm of
Bulkhead s Co. in West street; know Msxwen and
Carroll; have seen them together; believe that Car
roll has been several times at our place to collect bills
il is probably little more than year ago.
addison Bradstov sramined-l was in Adams Cos
Express oHice No Wall street, In February, 1915 My
duy At that time was as bookkeeper remember box
being received for Woodstock Vsrmopt was directed
TO the care olPeter Dudley, Concord, H. Two boxes
Of the same Character and directed to the party
had previously been brought to the ONCE and sent OF
Twelve shilngs charged for the transportation
Of the box. l decline stating why that amount was
Cross.r smia,d-Peter Dudley is q stage driver; do.
cline stating whether had any reason to suppose that
the box in question contained dead body cannot
who left the othar boxes; have sometimes car
ried certain class Of boxes the destination Of which
has been the Medical College, at Boston, and for which
we have charged twelve shllngs for transportation;
and that price charged the cases OF the three
boxes Of which have spoken.
Robert Dillon ,ramned i am cotton presser; re-
member Carroll bringing some rope my place for Mr.
Maxwell.
Robert Stevenson, Counseilsr ID know Car
roll; him while he was in prison; went in there to
make arrangements about getting him bailed; the ar.
rsngement fell through becausA was to have received
forthcoming, stepped out
The prosecution restingIhere, Mr. Western proceeded
to open the case on the part of the defence.
VIM CLAiRBouRrE examined for the defence.-l was
subp9naed attend this the part Of the prose
court yesterday, and heard the testimony OF Carroll
the statement no maze mae. a ;e nsns s snon NJ
Maxwell four or Ave years he has had horses and
carriages Of mine, but he never had sleigh; Maxwell
and Carroll never at stable that am
know Of any having been left BY Maxwell head that
saw box taken into a sleigh, and never had any
conversation> with Mr. Maxwell in relation to the
not know what was subpu naed Tor until met Carroll
at the of Chambers and Centre streets he then
asked me il did not recollect box he took to my
stable told him did not he said that he was going
to swear that was there told him tho only box
knew anything about the that he sent to Pha
delphia this spring. Mr. Maxwell hired rleigh Of
me. and never him in sleigh have no charge
In my books against Maxwell for wagon have had
Conversation with him about this affair.
DR.. CYRUs WEKKs, trGmined.-l know Carroll, who
on the stand witness, yesterday Carroll never
mentioned Mr.. Maxwelrs name to me- until after his ar
rcst; never had any conversation with Maxwell in
relation to furnishing any dead bodies.
Crosseramined--l do not know hsw Maxwell and
Carroll got acquanted Maxwell called upon me to at
fan his eff nd q W Novom.
Der, ls44; had known him before; had seen Mrs
Maxwell in the street. probably six months before that;
one day, coming out Of Mrs Maxwell's house,
saw Carroll the door; remember lending Car
roll two soveregns; he said he wanted to borrow $l0
then as we'll as do now or should not have lent it
him; have known Carroll for abouttwo three years.
had sssn
arrested and held to ball. CarroPs wife brought note
to me- from her husband stating that had introduced
him (Carrol to Maxwell and caused the trouble he had
got into; fixed time for them to meet at my ONCE;
MAXWELL on coming and seeing Carroll there, rushed
towards him, and told him that he was I'D scorn
1reI for swearing fasehoods against him.; went be:
tween them and told Carroll to 60 OH Carroll had Prev
ou.y is hi. address; at my ONCE and IN case any enc
raj called that did know and some that did not know
called and got his address on one occasion person
called at my ofRcs and inquired whether intended to
dssec any that winter he had or expected to have
some bodies TO dispose Of about week afterwards
Of this man that had called, and gave him his address;
several persons called at my Office, evening to in
aurs for Carroll, whether Mr. MAXWELL wa, one o.
was; cannot say how often let Carroll have any mo-
ney paid him several sums never visited any per-
son 10 Maxwes house but members OF his family, ex
cept ia one CASE friend of theirs was sick; attended
Mira Maxwelps family, not her patients; hold myself
n.c or mss
have known Mrs. Maxwell, by reputation, for some
time
by the prosecution this case and have attended du
ring the progress Of the trial. would not believe Car
roll under oath; have heard many speak Ill OF him Al
one time thought he was poor but honest and lent
him money, but my mind has changed on that subject
was first led ito doubt his word in o. hn
him that II was false friend Of mine from Massachu-
sets once got Carrolls address from me and left;
blowed me up giving him CAROLS address, a. he had
given Carroll $50 for body which was to have been
sent Sn DS sd % with sand nd had
business with Carroll after that which was in the winter
oWrr Psrrs. examinsd-I was gate ke eper at the
Jersey City Ferry, In the month Of February ls45;
heard the testimony Of Carroll yesterday In relation to
box box DsiS LEFT With me- boz
with nae / think should remembered 1t; recollect
Carroll having frequently stopped at the ferry and in
JAMss WELSH, exsmined.-T know Carroll; have
heard him spoken Of frequently. From what have
heard OF MIN. would not believe him under oath;
have known HIM for 10 or ~ years
Cross erom~d Il have been police onicer for about
thirteen years. In the Hrst place knew Carroll to be
notorious shsi who committed several burglaries and
his reputation since has been bad he has been tried
and convicted on than indictmentj have not
known him steal within the lest ten years; heard
man say, yesterday, that he wss enc Of the d--deN
scoundreis in the world, and he hes been frequently
pointed out bad character, have hoard ssvs.
raj oAcsrs say that he was bad nan, and nst TO Be
believed under oath.
JUSTICE Ossoar, essminsd.-I know nothing Of Car.
rolls character truth and vsracy his reputation -
far II has como 10 my knewledgs has been bad,
and unless his word correb0rassd would not BE-
Lave him under oath; have bean In the Police once
for seven years. and my knowledge has been gathered
In nv Official character
Ofhcer GiLBERr +. HAYS, ssamised-I know Carroll;
his reputation has been very bad have been police
oicer since 1881: Carroll has been brought mp several
times; he has been twice tried and convicted, and par
doned; both times for burgsres he has been thief
almost from his cradle; the pardon Of Governor Throop
dated 1857 here produced and read. THAT Of Co.
vernon Marcy was read yesterday
Mrs. II. c. ALLKr, examined.-l reside at Newtown,