New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-09-21
sEv.YoRk CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION
sxTEESTH wEEk-1cITTH DAY

erS and Merchants Oh poHH,n- -,
Day-Yesterdsys Fote-"nQ are the feVpis
Shall the Canals be FINISHED f-shall !nt
Public Faith be Preserved t-5enssse 1aise!
Canal-Tordsn's Plan-Camoreiens and BoucS
Ward On the Great West
ALsAyr, Saturday, sept 18th, 1886.
To ii. Editor Of TIE Tribune;
SIR: M Youngs proposed tins morning the ap
poinnen: of Committee of I've TO prepare an address;
70 the Public on the Results of the Proceedings OF the
Convention This was done in ls 5u' the work wa;
done FIST; The resolution was not acted on
Error N NJ Harrls's Report.
! 80 should be in these words
ssss ar rsnI Of agricultural land for longer Pc
rod than years. hereafter nae n EhGa sH, DC 'e
served any service o. any AIho Snail DC AIo-
In mr. letter OF Thursdsy the word VALID was printed
yorD and was printed IN some OF ne Albany papers
S6or4 Speecfes-No more L6e-uGy
| NJ srEr:os proposed the following resolution
Reolged Tha; he Committee Of the Whole De insireec
10 repor; this dsy. early a. i e4ocA' w s 49, r.
eversI amendments adopted proposed and the several
propositions a. substitutes or amend reerr 20 sac
and that al such propositions De considered as
nenTnr amendments AID that the debates on saG article
or anv amendment in Committee De limited 10 aiteen MN
uIes 10 be made thereon
M Cu,r7rx1ArS protested against the application
nj M- Stetsor's nile 10 those who had SAT silent FOR
nearly four months listening 70 The endless speeches. OF
ten OF dozen OF gentlemen OF whom ne (Ar 81 was
prominent cr,.r-,,--,. rprrcrtrc =.
rho ,iiciar ar-icIe alonel and told the Conver-
non tina, he had made long speeches to delay time
sni would be willing 70 restrict debate 10 the end
Of this Convention t.ieei-rllruie speeches. we
haze had sneeches by the hour therapeutics which
have given no information. Are we 10 90 nome TO our
constituents 20 eternal disgrace Win one nan 'he
subjects before not acted upon Inc PuoIc press
and the public itself charge us with wasting tne wheii
time il invaluable for completing the Constitution, and
with doing little We were sent here to act but il Is
said tina, somebody has proposed 10 publish BOOK and
that Members talk BY the hour 10 get fame By having
their and their eloquence recorded IN IL IL was
time that should 60 on voting
The AYES were 81 and the Noes 8, On an amendment;
hy Mr. Chamberlain stop debate next MONDAY al noon
Lost
On Mr. s.etson's proposition as given above the ayes
were o., the Noes 90.
Three Sessions Day.
Mr.. Baker proposed, and the Convention agreed oy
vote OF "a 10 H. 10 have three sittings day com
r,encnr on Tuesday next The sittings Viii commence
at hapa=t halfpast g. and = This "a very well but II
was needless had the Convention husoanded IT'S unle
during the sixteen weeks closed. Many elderly
gentlemen some who are in feeble health and even the
Young and ardent will become tired, wearled oul uhnt
for giving their best attention many propositions sud
deuly started and 10 De- voted almost as read
Advantage viii be taken Of this By arul politicians to
ret bad measures through and to crowd good measures
out Against such results your mas often
warned all parties and recapitua;ed the work 10 be
Banking-Remonstraaee of The Business Men Of
Ncs. York.
Mr. STEPHEN ALLEN of n Y, presented q Petition or
rather Remonsrance from about nifty oil the most re-
spectabe citizens that City the subject oil Banking
Inrornora,ions Il was read and is in these words
To The Honorable the State Contention
1.-THE undersigned Citizens of the City of New orS.
most respectfully demonstrate 70 your honorable BODY
against any provision being inserted IN me CONSTITUTION OF
this Stale that hn make the Socshoder IN any ncopo-
liable. such Stakeholder eeyond me amount ae'uay
invested by him in the Capital socN thereof -. -.
''The undersigned believe that am provision OF Jaw
which makes stakeholder individually liable beyond the
amount of Capital contributed by BIN would be injurious
the business OF the City anu state ana preuaeia 20 ~
prosperity iua-much responsible individuals wonid
no, become Stockholders, and 10 irresponsible sochhoa-
advantage would be gained IN ne additional sec-
yiiv contemplated BY private responsibility clause
Henry Parish. Brown, Brothers II Cie0rse lreIahn
Jonathan Thomp- Go. An g Laino'
NJ III Grinnell John J. Palmer, VIM F. Dodge,
Wooisev 4 Wool.!F Deming F. c. Tucker.
sev r. w. EdmOnd-, lohn J. Fish,
james D Ogden, james Harper, Z. Plati,
criytlr Rogers lBGris SsidmOre. james HarrOtt,
Shepherd Knapp, Phelps Dodge GO Z. IL. herrick,
O. & Worth Caleb Barstoyv, John A. Bunting,
Water r Jones A. G. Thompson, L. X V Kirby,
George Griswold f. Pen,z Adoniram Chsnd-
Yam Wm =. A uUn y Ladsm. ABB NJ Mcdonald
Jonathan Goodhue. ~. Van Norden, Nat Richards.
John A. Stevens. J. H. Cornell,
Who are the People7 Who may Elect! Who may
be Elected
In an elective system not the questions Of Who
shall Elect Who shall be Eligible and how our Elections
shall be conducted, to secure 20 the three millions
of People who elected this Committee OF the State or
State Convention good government calmly exercised,
OF paramount importance Are not Corporation ques.
tons Banking questions Currency questions, OF secon-
Diary importance compared with the great question
| of Who shall Elect, in an elective government,
The Pharisees OF Democracy, had almost said the
Sadducees but they If mistaken least honest
they did not strain at en- al and swallow camel-te
Fharisecs then consider the People musical
chine 10 be used in playing any tune they please Mr..
LOOMS from select Committee appointed By the Pres.
dent reported last 10th OF July 10 consider Banking
Municipal Corporations the appointment OF Local OFF
GERS the Powers OF Towns Counties Turnpike Manu-
featuring and Insurance Companies the Organization OF
Cities and Vaces-these hrs the question OF Who are
the Electors AFrERwARD Education after that -
and the Rights and Privileges OF the Citizens AFTER
ALL THESE Look at the VOTE in nv letter OF yester.
! day carefully gven-sec who the majority were, who
the minority and who the abscnees-and say whether
the prosavery power Washington with its worship
pers Wright Marcy and their sncent CONDUCTORS shall
control dictate to- and push into the back ground
petty affair be decided here IN minute on secret
resolution al the very last moment on the mo-
ton OF gentleman enjoying pension from the Gus
tom. House and who was elected Ter hIngs Co., under
giving the people but few days notice the all
important questions OF Who shall Elect Who shall be
Eligible 70 Office and Shall the rights OF Free Americans
for the next 5 years be bounded by quiet readopton
of million OF srbitrary rules confined contradictory
arranged, and known, as quiz, By the names
ler scp,Jr unwrltien law, or COMMON law OF Ing
The expenses OF the Canals as managed By the party
We're last yea- far believe than in any former
year Mr. Hoffman least consistent in his vote
on putting back the question OF the Elective Franchise
When the bill providing that the People should elect tne
| Canal Commissioners. Mr. Hoffman voted ~ NO.
/ Shall the STATE Canals be FINISHED
| NJ. Tallnadge Mr.. Richmond, M. Patterson Mr
Worden Mr. Chamberlain, NJ. Marvin, and others have
delivered able speeches to-day and yesterday favor
finishing the Canals and paying the State debt Nj
LOOMS advocated his amendment 10 the article Of the
! Committee which SEM you yesterday.
Mr.. WOapEN proposed the fOl0TIrg substitute tOr
Mr.. HodmAn's three frst sections:
TIE Legislature arst session after this Consti.
iiou takes effect shall provide by law the here
provided. cor the c-raIioa OF sinking fund pay
Canal debt the general fund debt OF this
interest such debts and 70! such purposes period
Of years from and after January l. 1871 the sum o
81 900 and FROM and after the Isl OF January
- oo until sach debts and interest fully paid shal
De fiscal yeaI, and 81 thai rate Tor shor.er period
fro the revenues and tolls OF The Canals Of he State ae
paving the expenses OF collection superintendent and r.
pairs apa for suca sinking fund and pledged 70 the
payment OF such debts and interests N such manner hs
81 TIE preferences and pledges in favor Of The creditors
tbs Safe shall be preserved and continued Alter apply
irg TIE aforesa:d supply The SAID SINKING funds
trre shall DC pad OF the remaining net revenues and .U-
Of The ad Canals S2GG1o annually mo ths Treasury
this Stale The remaining nrt reSrnrss and tolls
C2aSls shall beAppropraed and applied 10 The completion
of he enlargement; improvement OF The Erie Canal and
The Q. Tie oher unfinished Canals the