Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1846-08-08

committee declare here in their places whether they had
whether be had ntmatsd any objection 70 the items Il
aned He asked the chairman say whether the President
was not fully Of every thing bis committee had inserted
in the bill en
i mr. McCLELLAsD observed a profound silence
Mr. r. would call on the gentleman from Maryland to say
whether the President had expressed amy doubts objections
| as to the items in the bill ~
psed the question Of the gentleman from Pennsy vsns
he had no inmaon Of his purpose to ask and that far
from that genemans having received any such information
from him. they had never exchanged word upon the subject
but that since the general form Of THE question proposed
gentleman from Michigan, and repeated To him. had forced
from him disclaimer he felt bound say that he had
seen the bill until introduced into the House, and
knew nothing OF its items, not being member of the
mee. Some considerable time before the bill was reported
he had exchanged few words with the President upon sim
gle matter connected with the subject Of this BILL during which
the President had made remark from which he had
inferred that the President friendly the item and he
still 50 believed there nothing in the veto MESSAGE
he understood inconsistent with the inference he had drawn
from the remark Of the President So far from his having
conferred with the President upon this BILL either before
after its passage. he had bye single interview with him. and
that entirely confined to item which not included
i in the bill reported by the committee.
j Mr.. THOMPSON resumed Had this been plan laid
for the purpose Of affecting other legislation of the House
Was soothing song lul the friends of this river and
harbor bill TO sleep until after certain should have been
given Mr.. L. would mention fact that astonishing
and startling The day before the vote the tariff the
eminent organ of this harbor BILL and the
very day after that vote it strongly it,
He heard said by gentlemen him that that
easily explained No doubt of H. be poor in
deed in invention who could get up apology
however amc help political associate out of scrape
But would do for the old editor say that he did
know what went in his paper was his duty to know
Mr.. t. said that all the House must have witnessed the
pressive silence of the chairman of the Committee Com
merce when Intercepted plain matter Of fact Colonel
Albert Of the Typographical Bureau, had told Mr. IT, that
the President shown all the items in the bill and had
but had
only cut down the amount of appropriations which had been
| at ftst proposed. a 9-
Mr.. PAYNE here nterpossd, and asked Mr. T. whether
he meant to that the chairman OF the Committee Com
(Mr McCLELLASD) and the gentleman from Mary
land Mr CossrABLE) had showed the President items
in the harbor bill and that the President had assented
them
Mr.. THOMPSON replied that the gentleman from Mary
land had said that, with solitary exception of the
items, such was the fact. Il
Mr. THURMAN suggested the Chair that it was out Of
order refer held with the President
Many voices " Out Of order ~ " that's pretty story "
"must not tell, eh ~
| Mr.. McCLELLAND understood to say he had not
heard had not understood Mr. THompsoNs inquiry. The
gentleman from Alabama (Mr. PAYSE) had asked him whe-
Their he had said that he had presented the harbor bill the
President with its different items He did consider him
vesaon he might have had with the President he consider
ed all such confidential he would
that in any consultation he might have had with the Pes
dent he had not submitted the bill TO him convesed about
Mr. CONSTABLE said that he had the bill till
it to this House. He had had conversation with the
President about item of it only. In that the
President expressed general opinion only
Mr.. THOMPSON said the chairman Of the Committee on
Commerce had now given limited answer to his inquiry.
Mr.. McCLELLAND said he hoped the gentleman from
Pennsylvania had desire TO inure him. He had positively
and unequivocally declined answering the inquiry.
Mr.. THOMPSON emphaticaly declined all purpose in
ure Mr. McCLELLASD, Of whom he spoke in of the
highest respect.
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| but Mr. THOMPSON declined yielding it.
Mr. t. went TO say that what had been proved by
his inquiry remained improved for there other wit
Mr.. T. had made charges he had simply asked
question to fact and he would leave with the House
whether the he had received dsovcd any thing
Of what he had said. He had said that the answer was
the Presidents officers, sent TO the House by HIMSELF
without the slightest intmation Of disappova No such
word be found when these and recommends
tons referred yet in those estimates and
daons all those rivers and harbors included which
committee had subsequently inserted in the BILL and which
the President now thought entirely unconstitutional
Mr.. IT, was 10th any other member Of that House
say any thing against the President perhaps his habua
caution had prevented him from expressing his op
ion and perhaps not BE that it might Mr.. r. looked
upon this veto the commencement OF revolution in the
principles and practice Of this Government The tariff had
been overthrown Mr. Il. had stood it all his State
stood trembling the verge Of still he had not com
planned Of the President Surely he had any constitutional
scrupes his mind rankness and candor would have re-
communicate Them before this late
had there been word like it Mr. II. said he saw indica
tons of warmth quarters round him. He cared little
for warmth but be warned gentlemen that he did wish
his words misrepresened he did practice msrcpresen
tons Of Others and, if attempted towards himself he should
submit He had called upon Witness but that wit
refused testify the House certainly liberty
draw its inference. None could estimate the gentleman
from Michigan than he did since he had enjoyed the OPP
porunity of his acquaintance The gentleman would die re-
spected and regretted by ALL He had in the
haved very honoaby but let that the inquiry Mr.
L. hal put TO him either improper unmportant Mr.
/. did know the fact that the gentleman had the
President in regard the bill He the chairman of the
committee from whom the bill reported How easy would
it have been for the President say him. before the bill
completed have constitutional objections OF the
items estimated for by the Secretary Of the Treasury.
Some gentlemen here terribly alarmed that a word
should be said about the Executive when Mr. T. feared
to speak OF him, 10 him. either here in bis cham
ber let his hand wither He should talk OF him with the
respect due to lis character and bis place. but freely he
deemed bis duty, both in the halls of Congress and at
home TO the people; responsibility should deter him.
and gentlemen might themselves trouble of any in
imaons Of dspeasure they would be without the slightest
impression on him. Nt
He asked gentlemen from the West whether they were
prepared yield up this whole question Of the improvement
Of their rivers and their harbors and go back to the abb
stracons which denied Congress the power Of improving
any harbor unless the high If you ready
for this (sad Mr. L why, God speed you but give you
this warming you will have TO turn back upon your tracks
not many days hence. He asked gentlemen from New
York, whose homes surrounded with harbors which
needed improvement, whether they ready give up
question We're they going with the President, because he
differed in sentiment from every President Of the United