The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-12-10

The Van Meas Case.
CIRCUIT CoURr, WAsHIsoroS Dec. 4, 1916
CONTINUATION TESTIMONY FOR DEFENCE
Court convened at 10 o'clock.

their house In Baltimore in as at the lyng-in Of Mrs
Conner and the birth Of daughter which said wallace
at the time according to the Testimony Of the two wit
ne sses and afterwards by certain letters signed win
Of Gen Van Ness under the assumed name Of "Wm
Wallace ~
BY y oy d
Ness; was pretty well acquainted with him: keen an
exchange ONCE the avenues saw gentleman in isAO
here who resembled Gen Van Ness he told me his name
was William wallace;" my impression 10 he boarded
at Mrs Connsr,s do not know have seen him walk
size perhaps little taller than Gen Van Mass; he was
large man. with full reddish face; yes sir he had
don't Know in what State; he dropped into NV Once oc
casonay and pure based lottery tickets and asked me
ms in ns%S ON o ana mars inc way
Cross-eramined BY Mr. BRKSr-I never saw him riding
in Cen Van Nssss carriages inferred that he boarded
with hor pretty much every dsv. he resemhlsd Cen
Van Ness great deal he might have been mistaken for
Van Ness any how; he was a large man. full face:
have mono Of his tickets remaining with William W al
lace n, namo on the back of them don't know his occu
nation. think he was an Indian agent or land aSent
the wav r. ma tn fx the tne in $50 Was from the fact
that / had rented new house In that wear
By Mr. BaApLsY.-When he purchased tickets he did
not 20 in any direction: sometmes up the Ave
nue. and sometimes down. ~ '
BY Mr. MAY.--Mr. Robinson knew him, l think Mr.
william Robinson or Edward Branch Robnson: YES sir
Didn't know that anv body else knew him NV attain
wallace from the pYbcaton in The Dapers Of thu wal
Lace letters that is some two or three weeks ego that
Van Vess to this William wallace that had seem In 1910
think it as late in the fall of that year about the time
Of the meeting Of Congress have not seen him since
pretty good customer don't recollect any rold lace
upon his cloak think he wore a cloak once dont re-
collect what sort of one it was only looked perticu-
may haye bought tickets other places round about
town don't know that he did
Mt WILLIAM r. JONES and Dr. w. b. JONES. of the
Post Office testified to the practice Of the depart
ment in the stamping registering, and trsnsmi:siOn
hs Of tho po
10 the Screen Valley Depot ,ers Of sSo pn
Of lsi5 which do not appear in the transcripts post
bills of that year. least there being correspond
ing recorded number of letters Green Valley Depot
letters Of the plaintiff The object of the defence to
show from the regularity Of the practice Of the depart
phia' and the Green Valley Depot" letters could
have escaped the registering and post bills, &c. while
the prosecution in their crossexaminaon went t.
tain the possibility of "way letters escaping the regu
lar practice Of stamping and recording from occasional
The Court urged the defence to proceed to the exsm
nation OF other witnesses.
Mr. THOMAS MurTINGLy recalled-He recollocts very
well the late distress levied upon his property for rent
due to the estate Of Gen. Van Ness knowledge
of conversation ct that time about Gen Van Ness being
married. about his having wife Gen Birch and Mr..
Carn and other persons present at the time
don't reeolect that they said any thing about Gen. Van
Ness being married my memory !: very short ON that
Van Ness very well; we'll. do think do recollect
something was said at the time OF the distress: but don't
sir do not Mrs Conner was mover there to my know.
ledge never saw her I'LL short time ago. as know
Of amt very high larn't" person, but Mr. Carliu
could tell if any thing said-hes here at her
house before the distress because somebody told that
my place. a' 70 ~ anu ''' '' VIM" -'' ''' ''A' "
Boon Of the great gun announcing the despatch ofhe
IL Is. Tssas csp '
Witness proceeded to tell Of talk be had with Mrs.
and how she knew nothing much shout T. and
settled before the court. Yes; much sdisfrssssd
about the rent, and went to see the Gov Van Ness,
fore the distress that had the talk with the lady Yes,
recollect II very we'll. No, don't; don't rscolect
believing General Van Ness was married. DO not--I
do not recollsct do recoLect what Gen. Van Ness
told me once about his having wife and child. was
recollect-no, do not-l do not we'd the estate
about sso-I got my place for s2sa year Yes. rscol
aterwsrds at the DISTRESS do no,- do not docking pa
thetcay at Mr. Brsdley) there might have been some
such conversation but do not recolect i'll do notf
poor Witness greatly to his relief permitted to re
Wesley CAnL,r sworn.-was asked to t..,ifx IN N.
conversation with Mr. Mattingy at the time witness
levied the distress Plaintiffs counsel objected on the
ground that one witness could not be called to testify
against another unless the first witness had positively
denied such conversation. Mr. Mattingly had not po
not reeoiIsci il. ' ~ '''' '''D "' '''
Much argument ensued pro and con. the counsel for
the defence insisting upon the propristy Of the testimony
Of Mr. Carlin
The CoURr decided to admit the evidence.
Mt CARLur thereupon, deposed that II was the 3Oth
Of September last he made the distrain upon Thames
Mattingy, and that there was conversation among
those present about Gen. van Ness. Witness did not
hear MT. Mathngiy say anything about having had
conversation with Gen; Van Ness, in which Cen Van
Ness said he had wife and child las witness for
piantin our old friend Mattngly did say 50
JAMES BIRcH sworn-Was present ct the distress IL.
We'd upon Thomas Mattngly in Alexandria county
had conversation with Mr.. Msttngiy about the mar
rage Of Gen Van Ness, in which Msttingly ssid be
heard Of the marriage Of Gen. Van Ness till after
his death that he (Matngly) had often been to Gen
Van Nesss carry what the witness called
such as chickens eggs, and tho lke-(0reat hughtsr
silence p Walk light .")-and that said MsttinSiy
declared that he had heard any thing about ~
General being married to this lady snl after his dssth
This was the testimony upon which Mr. Msttinriy,
or Old Mattingy, ~ they call him, was very oh.
livious.l
MIR. RoBERr BfacH, son Of the former, sworn-Dirsct
examination present at the dsran and heard the