Carroll free press. [volume] (Carrollton [Ohio]) 1834-1861, 1846-01-16
ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ORE
GON QUESTION
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

u any danger Is apIHelendtd by any 'B'h-
tGeman ahefe, IL sp Pears to ne that The We
ry first measure to be laken-lhJt which
shouh precede al military Aseasures otany
kinds TO give notice TO Great Britain
.dai we Rean to termna9 alc exraius
Joint occupancy of Oregon. That Is the
FIRST measure to We taken. How car rs1i-
iJuel appreheud war othsrwirl Dp-
Great B iAn al rs ,IaI -hr vii lakc oi-
fpurp at the CO tHuaucp Of The tr'aty m
joint cccupancv! She does not, though
have heard at some qur~iiCl hajHg male
ia England whether Ihcy shah uol give
us notice OF tha termination OF the joint
Orcupaucv. Yr, it Is not JOHN ncrura-
l on, aul have bcrn surprts at u, k,n-
guagr held bW some geHtiruteR on he sub
Jet The treaty ats owicdges 40 occIs-
pate al lie teutOy ~ either psr'p jl r.
commercial convention tor Tree nrvigs-
tion, tur it)lors not admit hy either Vorty
the occrptioi Of one ZACH n territory by
lh- uther. II Is r0 orcuplrou. Bat.
whatever il is, ueliiRr parts can perpEt-
nrnllv occupy the country without uoI,ce
to IT, otAprto terminate the convention
OF commerce 6nj trade, whTh wonh not
be- perut,ed without such convent ion
1t Is not treaty Of joint occUpatoH, It is &
treaty q. the oEerci-.' Ot uavig tio1 rights,
couin,prc'alfig and trading rights with
the lndians. It precludre iheprrnpalion
OF thrroUntrg i,y either party. Exclusive
occupation cannot bp assumed ly either
without rolice. Otall thH mca-urrs '0r
occupancy and Tor ASSUMING Jurisdiction
over citizens 0fthrUnitrd States who have
gone into Oregon. aud are there IN aCuil
possession, nolIce,s the fist thing. Twelve
no1lhs stEr that notice snail have noen
given Ike right VII accrue to tnr United
States to ocrury any part of the territory
thpl may th,uk proper.
latb. iii whi"h passed at the hast ses-
sioa | mys-lf moved, as 4 first SECTION to
The till, III 1 u'h notice ,h0Hld te o.
ven, TIE House did rot see proper
to atee 10 ii, and pissed the bin @.lhout
any Gotjce,
Mr 9. J. IGgcrsoll. No. 1t was put
into the hUi at tHa Est moment.
Mr.. ADAMS. Bat the TN did not pass
| the Senate, aid 50 lhr insprtjon was eir-
material But it is mstara fact to me,
! hrcaGse proposed il H. constituting thr
! first srclhn 1i the hill. / declared myself
ready then, ana Tam ready now, 70 give
such rotire. Great snnsatioHJ 4 h0Te
| il " i'll he given, and that we shall do il ~
| the first measure ~ be taken-to he iallow
ed afterwards byaa rPsj oC-Epdta5; 81 The
whote terr.Uon [6reat sensation in hue
House and an incipientcIap, which, how
ever, was p omptr arrested by the SPs ak
sr, wh0-ca led loudly 10 orderl But it is
indi+p ms t0le that we shall first give no :
! ice.
The gentleman from I!li;Ois Mr. DoEg-
lass) says that MwrPears to him rher" Is Il
! game playing hCre--a remark when IS
iqm.r ncomprrkeGsbie TO mn. shall rot
iHtNiye to what the gentleman Alluded,
tEtT Was very much surprised to heur-tlat
thp'comuntpr on Foreign Affairs will not
report to the tlNae such notice.
MIR. C.JIngrrsoIi kGow ofno moA-
Der Of thNt 'cGmmitlre who has said 30.
/ Mr 'Dmalass. | aaid so, because | had
heard that s,-chwas their dctprys nation.
! Mr. Adams rasuMpd. [ have heard 1t
fr0m varions quarter, and if the report is
/ delayed much lOHreg, shall believe 1t. A
laugh.1 ftit is 50, I sial depore it, slrall
deeply rpgietira majority Of That commit.
/ tee shall rot bo ready forgive tAat notice,
All the othc easureS must depend Oh
/ that. While We sit here talking about re-
gimcnts Of rilempn, and rFgjn enes Of in
tjrntry, and s,ockade forts ,pnd4saprFrS and
winners, and pOnNricrs, Great Britain is
armng her steam. vessels, equiping 'npr 'ri-
! gates aud Iine-ot- WttiP ships, and sending
troops over here to be ready. Tto0Ud press
Ia reSolEion giuiRg rhr R6firc THIS DAY, II
/ hoped thato major " ofthe House could
! bp obtained to effect the measure. ..s .....
/ MIR, Wentworth here moved tirat the
rules be suspended to afford an opporuni-
| ty Tor such a motion; hut the emotion was
pronounced 70 De oNt of 0der,
Mr. Adams refNmea. 4 feel myself
scortely authorized 10 hope that ! Should
be successful shoH0d | maze tlre moGon.-
| But for this | woUid hage7ooved il on the
fnrstday ofthc seseon. Because have 80
profound Apnsc'ot tire datyaof adherirg
Fto treares trel dehaTed iron the tPast
act of hostility, or even from meeting nos
! tIiitv manifested elsewhere, Till notice shall
have lcen given. While our convent N
remains Il viii vote no, Increase Of the af-
nay or lauy, no tort er.rto"kade, or no rifle
men, NO infantry, no aappcrs, or miners.
An mU%t depend on that. ltthi- bi'i Shall
BE made the special order for Tuesday, 1
Hope il will be arranged 10y The gentlemen
who manage the business of this House
-that the question of giving notice shail
comeup on the same day and shall be
taken up before any Ching else. 1t is mere
wasting OF time, and 'whistIing to the
wind, NJ tail; Glout raisinga military force
until our conscience is clear from the obi
CATION otthc convention. .., ,..,.
And ii does not follow that, If We give
notice, there must Of necessity he'war; nor
does 1t even follow that we shall then take
possession. ltwilI only he saying 10 Great
Britain: After negotiating twenty years T.
bout this matter, we do not choose to ne
Uotiatn vpv trnupr. NNp shall take