The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1846-05-12

question OF the existence Of peace or war that
70 be decided, only after due and careful delibeatiou
and examination ofthe documents submitted by the
President. Justice 10 the President himself
qured that the evidence submitted by him should
| oe calmly and deliberately considered. II had not
yet been examined. Was il desired by any gentle
man that the question should he decided without
animation OF the testimony IN the case ? Sure
", that could not be their desire. He did not
mean TO say whether there was, or was not Wal
ie only wished TO have the subject properly exam
'neu oeiore Judgment was pronounced. He then
went on TO speak of the unlimited terms in which
INC appropriation was made in the bill. There was
~ 'Peeosuoh OF the objects 10 which the ten mil
lions was TO be applied. That was not IN accord
anoe WIN the Jenersonian doctrine. lie (MI. c.
was ready to vote twenty millions if necessary, but
he insisted that in the law making The gpnropTiaton
the object TO which 1t was to be applled should BIZ
designated. There were none of The trust movers
that admitted Of being delegated by the Congre ss
ofthe United States TO the President or any one else
This was Of them, and therefore he argued that
section Of the bill was unconstitutional After some
other remarks, the honorable gentleman, Of whose
speech we have been able give only this hur led
outline, moved that the bill be referred to the Com
mlttee on Military Affairs; and il the motion
successful, he entreaed that committee to put the
bill IN such shape as would enable all to vote for
It,
Mt MANGUM IL eau be reported to-day
Mr. CLAYTON. Yes. And | for one am
ready to SIT here till midnight If necessary in order
10 pass il.
Mr. BENTON said, that the Committee on Mill
hry Affairs had met early that morning-had ex-
amined the bill, and directed some amendments
Mr. MANGUM asked il the senator would al
low the amendments To be read
MI BENTON replied certainly; and added that
IN accordance with the resolution OF the Senate yes
erday with respect to the reference of the message
the committee had proposed TO amend the bill by
striking out The political question.
ne amendments suggested by the Committee on
Military Affairs, were then read by the Secretary
Mr. MANGUM hoped that the senator from
Delaware Mr. CLAYTON would now Withdraw hls
motion.
Mr.. CLAYTON was still Of opinion that the
proper course would be to refer the bill TO the Com
mittee on Military Affairs, to be by them reported
back with these amendments. He would, how
ever, again ask the senator from Missouri Mr..
BENTON # 1t was not possible to relieve the bill Of
the Objectionable feature which he (Mr c. had
polHted out in regard to the clause making the ap-
preparation. Could it not be designated how much
was to be applied to the land forces and how much
10 the navyp'
Mr.. BENTON replied, that that would be very
laoorlous work, and would consume a considerable
pe.od OF time IL would lead to great delay.
Mr.. CLAfTON still supposed that some general
designation might be introduced
Mr' ALLEN said that the Committee on Military
Affairs having had particular branch Of the mes
sage before them, without making any reference to
the political part Of the question: he would state that
the Committee on Foreign Relations had the subject
under consideration tOo-so much Of II at least az
fell TO their charge. ma jority of that committee
nad eoncurred on the proposition contained in the
hrst section Of the bill reported from the House of
Representatives, that war exists. As to the politi-
cal question, It had been decided far as MAORI
ty could decide it. He hoped therefore the bill
would not be reerredj and a matter of course it
was not from any consideration he said so but the
necessity of speedy action.
Mr. BERRlEN did not find anything in what had
fallen from the senator from Ohio Mr. Allen against
the reference Of the bill. He desired to see
the motion for reference prevail because the expIa-
nation that had been given as TO the course to be
adopted seemed TO show that the end of speed would
be promoted by that reference Should the motion
OF the senator from Delaware be adopted and the
bill be referred to the Committee on Military Az
fairs, 1t would be at once reported. There was
nothing TO prevent 1t TO report on 50 much of the
bill as was referred to them. He thought the object
OF the motion was solely to expedite the bill and
hoped it would prevail.
The question on the motion to refer was then ia
ken by yeas and nays, and resulted as follows:
-, YEAsoMessrs Archer, Barrow, Berrca Calhoun
Davis Dayton Evans, Huntington, Jsrnagin Johnson OF
MaTy land Johnson Of Louisiana, Mangum, MorrhraI
. NAYs-Messr.. Allen, Ashley. Atehison Athoraa
Bagby, Benton, Breese, Bright, Cameron, CoLru.r
err Rusk semple, SEWER speirbt StT"grn '! In
Wcstcott and Yuee-26
So the bill was not referred to the Committee ON
Military Affairs.
Mr.. CLAYTON inquired of the chairman Of tie
Committee on Military Affairs Mr.. BsSroEl
whether he proposed to make other Amendments
o the bilP
Mr. BENTON replied the committee were prepared
enly to act subordnaely. Had the Committee o.
Forelgn Relations reported bill containing the adj
MISSION that war exists, and had been 80 received
~ the Senate, the Committee on Military Affairs
would have reported the bill with some amend
nents On the other hand if it had been reported
With the idea that the object was that Of repelIing
INVASION, the committee would have concurrcd
herein
Mr.. ALLEN said the Committee on Foreign Re-
atoms had met in the morning to consider the mat
Mr.. CLAYTON merely wished to know if
he committee had made their report. did not mean
o ask for it,
Mr.. ALLEN observed that the Committee on
'oreIgn Relations, which had met in the morning.
would have reported in the morning had not the bin
rom the House of Representatives come on first af-
er the reading of the Journal
Mr.. CLAYTON desired to know whether the
committee on Foreign Relations, when engaged in
he consideration of the matter, had the documents
ent by the President to Congress before them2
Mr.. ALLEN replied they had the manuscript
comments; but the committee had heard the mes
age Of the President read and also some of the
lose their eyes to the fact pal pable and clear as
he existence of war
Mr.. CLAYTON observed that, although the
enator from Ohio had said he could not close his
yes to the fact that existed, perhaps there was
omcthIng else on which he closed them. He had
aid the manuscri pit documents were before him in
omnlttee, and they all knew how very vouminous
hey were. He presumed, however, the commit.
&c read them, and they must have been very dill
en, by the-by, if they did. Now he put it to the
omm'ttee to say, what opportunity senator's
ad to read them. The Committee Foreign Re-
atoms, they were told, had had opportunity to
FAMINE the whole case; but that body had had no
UGH opportunity. They desired to have it. Did
hey ask them to go it blind'--to decide on their
curse without any evidence to show what was the
orrect onei That was carrying the thing little
DO far. 1t was more than he ever heard of being
sked before in that body. He would inquire of tho
hartman of the Committee on Military Affairs,
,hcther he intended TO those amendments
lie should prefer that it should be done by him;
ut if he did not, he (Mr. c. would be compelled
&c Il