The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1846-08-06

"compromlsey"
Mr., SCHENCK (answering) said that he did
vote for that amendment. That he hal never had
such holy horror Of that word "eompromise" as
some Of his democratic friends seemed TO have.
That he believed title TO $40 4W was the best
title and in the previous Congress was one Of ff-
teen wings who voted for an Oregon bill which rec
ognised the $40 40 line But title to part Of the
country not being "clear and UNREASONABLE, as the
President had styled it, he (Mr. 81 had not been
disposed to involve the country in the cslamities Of
war; II the question could be honorably settled by
negotiation and compromise.
Mr.. THURMAN (resuming) said that his col
league had given such good reasons for the treaty
that had been made, that Mr. +. supposed il was
unnecessary for him TO say more on that subject.
Mr.. SCHENCK. My colleague msunderstands
me, II he understands me as having made defence
Of the treaty.
Mr.. THURMAN. | did not so understand my
colleague. | spoke Of the good reasons" he gave
for the treaty. Mr. T. repeated that he (Mr t.
thought the treaty wrongj that II ought never to
have been made; but he did not think Il lay IN the
mouths Of the wings to taunt the democrats in refer
ence TO il.
Mr.. 7. next adverted to the remarks Of his col
league in reference TO the pay of the volunteers.
w hen the war Dill was under consideration, a mo-
ton had been made in committee TO pay the yolun-
teers SO per month Mr.. T. voted for the propo-
sition, But when the bill came to be considered in
the House. il being aseertaned that the regulars
ceyed but 81 per month, and being perfectly GER
tain that II $40 per month given 10 the volun-
teers and but 81 to the regulars, the act 10 in
crease the rank and file Of the regular army would
be dead letter; and il being obviously impossible,
or If possible unjust, TO have two bodies Of troops
in service, side by side, one body receiving $40
per month, and the other but 81, he had voted in
the House against the proposition he had spoken
OF, intending 10 do, what he had steadily done since
that is vote 10 give both regulars and volunteers $40
per month. And now, what had been the course of
the wings on this question: The gentleman from
Pennsylvania Mr.. STEWART had frequently offer
ed propositions TO increase the pay Of the volunteers
10 $40 per month. He had been repeatedly appeal
ed to, to frame his proposition to include the
regulars, and thus obyate the objections before spo
ken Of; but he had never done so within Mr.. T.'s
recollection. Well, under these circumstances, Mr.
It's colleague Mr.. BRNEERHoyT prepared a bill
giving $40 per month TO both regulars and volun >
teers, and moved TO suspend the rules intro
duee 1t. What was the result Of the notion Why
not ten wings voted for il.
Mr.. SCHENCK. Nor democrats either.
Mr.. THURMAN. agree; he could not even
get the yeas and nays on his notion but that IL not
the question The wings have sought to make cap
lal out of this matter Of the pay Of the volunteers
They have professed TO be their peculiar friends
and yet not ten Of them were found sustaining Mr..
BRTNEERHoFF's bill.
Mr. L. next referred TO his colleagues remark,
"that he did not old federal papers quoted on
him. which seemed TO be chiefly within the recolec-
tons Of members of the other side," (the demo-
crats) Mr.. T. said it quite possible that those
papers were better recollected by democrats than
by wings, for the latter were, perhaps, quite
willing TO forget them-a disposition for which Mr..
l. did not by any means blame them.
Mr.. L. would now take notice, briefly, of what
his colleague had said about Col Steyenson's Cali
fornia regiment The CALIFORNIA; were Mexican
provinces, and we were at war with Mexico. Did
his colleaO1,e think uyron tn inva IL
was certain his colleague would not say so. He
confident his colleague would admit that it was
just proper to invade the CALIFORNIA; as to march
into any other provinces Of Mexico.
Mr.. SCHENCK. To be sure il is
MIR. THURMAN. Well, there is nothing then
in the destination Of Stevenson's regiment that is
wrong. What them Why, il is said that they are
armed emigrants; that it is contemplated to leave
them in California. Now, what do Col. Stevenson's
instructions on this point amount to- Simply this:
that he shall make known to his troops that the
government will, il it see proper, disband them in
any territory that may belong to the United States
on the Pacific at the conclusion Of the But for
this, the troops would naturally expect to be brought
uuch 10 rrw@ rorn ueIore they were discharged.
The instructions to Col Stevenson merely inform
them that if they enter the service, they do so
with the understanding that right is reserved to
dishand them in Pacific territory. What is
there strange or unusual IN thls9 Certainly nothing
But it is said that all this squints at conquest of
California. Well, Mr.. T. would put this case to
his colleague Mexico owes our citizens large sums
Of money Suppose at the end Of the war, finding
herself unable to pay in money, she offer to pay in
the CALIFORNIA;, ar some part thereof would my col
league object to such treaty. L do not believe he
would.
Mr.. SCHENCK, Gocuary speaking from his
seat.) Ii will be time enough for me to answer
that question when get into the Senate and have
Mr.. THURMAN Good My colleague de-
serves seat in the Senate, grant.
Mr.. SCHENCK Oh, no; let that pass.
Mr.. THURMAN. We'll, in the meantime, |
stick to my opinion that my colleague would no
oppose such treaty.
Mr. SCHENCK. Perhaps would not | will
not say on the spur Of the moment, that | would.
Ii is probable that, following the instinct of the An
glo-Saxon race, Of whom much has been said here
! might go for the land, though | entertain great |
doubts whether it would be Ultimately for the .bene-
fit Of the country.
Mr.. THURMAN. Well, now il seems to me |
that here is end of my colleagues objections to
Col. Stevenson's instructions. He grants that it is
proper to invade the CALIFORNIA; it is to invade
any other part of Mexico; and he further comedies
that it may possibly be proper to conclude a treaty
by which we will acquire part Of the CALIFORNIA; |
Now is not this decisive the whole question a, is
suei
Mr.. SCHENCK. What object to is, tina, pro.
perty of the United States las rumor says) has been
promised to these volunteers. Now | ask nv col |
ieague-lst, are Sevenson's troops part of the So.
600 volunteers; and if not by what authority are
they raisedl I'd, what authority has the President
to promise them property of the United Sntes if that
has been done' Sd, is this expedition intended as
part Of a ofconques1
Mr.. THURMAN. ] understand them to be part
Of the so 600 volunteers and therefore raised bv au
'hority Of law. And as to the Cd inquiry, do not
understand that any such promises have been made
have not seen or heard Of any such thing.
As to the Sd question, we are at war with Mexi-
co, and suppose it 10 be quite usual and proper to
conquer the provinces of an enemy.
Mr.. THOMPSON, of Pennsylvania, remarking
that this was the last day of the session when, un.
der the rules, bills could be sent to the other House.
or TO the President, moved that the committee rise
with view of offering resolution to terminate this
debate.
The motion being agreed to, the committee rose
and reported.
Mr.. JAMES THOMPSON offered resolution
providing that all debate the said bill shall cease
IN twenty minutes after it shall again have been
aiken up in committee.
Mr.. t. moved the previous question, which was
oI and npHp tic a.