New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1846-06-12
New. York Constitutional Convention
NINTH DAY.
A Good Days Work-Eishteen Committees
Appoisted-A state Sub Treasury-Harmo-
ny-The Ladies-Irish Delegates.


about ii; in the manuscript l surely spoke OF De
Toeoueviies views not Kirkland as it is printed
The Convention having, this morning, by vote
of so to 4s, refused to go back into Committee OF
the Whole on the report Of the Committee OF II,
that report only We, lore it, but the amendments
OF Yesterday were ne of them, again submitted.
Mr.. Tiden's pe;' r,Gs substantially adopted, and
there were adj e. subdivisions, and other altere-
tons proposed until, by two O'Clock, the Conven-
ton as well az could comprehend its action, with
the closest attention, had agreed upon and adopted
tho following eighteen resolutions:
Resolved Tbats Standing Committee be appointed 10
consider and report the apportionment election ten
ure of Office compensation of the legislature and
that the several parts the existing Constitution which
relate these subjects respectively be also referred to
the said Committee.
THE other Committees, using the same phrase
ology at the beginning and end Of each resolution,
were
q On the Power, and Duties OF the Legislature, except
a. to matters otherwise referred
q On Canals. Internal improvements Public Revenues
and Property Public Debt, and the Powers and Duties
OF the Legislature In reference hereto-and the resc
TONS If any, proper be imposed upon the action OF tie
Legislature In making Donations from the Public Funds
In making Loans Of the Moneys or Credit Of the ate
This last resolution, as amended by Mr.. icon
or includes Richmond's proposition. TO look into the
State credtending system, and Hottman's idea Of
having the Debt, Finances Taxation, Revenues,
and the Loans on State Credit, considered by one
Committee.
l. On the Elective Franchse-,hc Qualification TO vote
and hold office.
s. On the Election Tenure of ofce, Powers and Duties
Except the power Appoint and Nominate 10 oce Of
the Governor and Lieutenant Governor.
g. On the Elecoh or appointment OF all Onicers otner
than Legislative and Judicial the Governor and Leuel-
Governor whose duties and powers are not oca and
their Powers, Duties and Compensation.
l. On the appointment Election Of all Officers whose
functions local, and their Tenure Of Office Powers,
Duties and Compensation.
g. On the Militia and Military Affairs.
9. On Ofic.l Oaths and Afnrma IONS and Oaths and
Afrmatons and the Competency Of Witnesses, in Legal
and Equity proceedings.
TO- On the Judiciary, the Appointment or Election OF
Judicial Officers and their Tenures of ONCE and Compen-
sstop.
H. On the Rights and Privileges of the Citizens of t,
State.
p On Education. Common Schools and the Approprl-
Is. Future Amendments and Rsvisons of the Const-
tuition.
a. On the organization and powers Of cities and nicer
pornted villages and especially their powers of taxation,
assessment borrowing money contracting debts and loan
ing their credit.
Is On the power Of Counties Towns and other Munich
Corporations, except Cities and Incorporated Villages
and especially their powers of local legislation taxation
assessments. borrowing money and contr acting debts
ID and Is are subdivisions of the 18Th resolution
of the Committee of Il, and were proposed by Mr.
Chat6eld.
l6. On the Currency and Banking.
II. On Corporations other than Municipal
l6 and II are Subdivisions of the 18th resolve re-
ported by the Select Committee If beard il cor
rectly stated No II will require more clear def
nition otherwise the duties of Committees l6 and
II will clash together
Is. On the creation and division of in land.
No. le was amended by Mr. Worden Ii stood
ct first " the tenure Of landed estates
Each Of these Committees, with the exception Of
that upon the Judiciary, is ordered 10 consist of
Judiciary Committee is 10 be COM
posed of l3 members
l would only encumber your columns were to
enumerate a variety Of propositions for Committees
offered on subjects clearly within the scope Of the
above resoutons-as, for instance, on the rights OF
women as to land, &c. the imprisonment Of witness
es &c. Mr.. Morris remarked that gentlemen might
al any time offer such propositions for the consider
ton ofthe Convention, aud have them al once reier
red to the appropriate Committees.
Mr. Shepard wanted to add TO the third after
public revenues and the words and The safe
keeping and disbursements thereof but the Con
vention refused Il 10 SO. Mr. Shepard, though he
alluded TO the Sub Treasury in this, and TO the opn-
ion of large number OF the people who are anxious
TO provide more fully than as at present for the safe
keeping of the Stale revenues, reminded the Con-
veniion that he had expressed no opinion on any
principle that might be involved and that his desire
mitees comprehensive enough 10 include every
shade OF opinion tina, might be offered
have eeen minOritles, IN legislative booies, en-
deavor to hinder and embarrass the action OF The ma
iority Of the hour but there is nothing OF the sort
done here stranger, Ignorant otthe party divisions
Of ~ Y. politicians. would not lind out by listening
to the Convention. la Congress there seems 10 De
TOO much difficulty in getting motions made Here
we have the other eStreme-propostions are read
from the Clerks desk and acted on al The moment,
icth no notice at all
There were many shades OF opinion day rela-
tive To the amount OF business proper 10 De iet TO
Standing Committee. Mr.. Stow remarked that the !
Committee off, had departed from the action OF the
Convention of 1921, in dividing among two Commit
tees the consideration OF the powers and duties OF
one of the grea, Departments OF Government !
the Legislative while they admitted that the it d.
ciary must be referred TO one Committee. One,
Committee the powers and duties OF the Lee h
clsature, and another the restrictions 10 be II
placed on these powers, in certain matters, would II
clash-one Committee might be reporting in favor /
OF con'errnS power, which another would be Try \:
ing 10 annut through some restricton-one Commit
tee would perhaps report that the Legislature |
should, and another that IL should not possess
tain powers W ould not this create confusion III |
stead of producing order The Committee on the |
2d resolution could properly fulfil their import
ant duties if they bad before them the mat
,ers proposed 10 be referred the Committee on the
Sd How could The Committee on the Cd resolution !
report whether the veto power in the Governor &c.
ought or ought not TO be continued unless the con-
OF the important matters enumerated in
the Sd were entrusted to them? Mr.. S, supposed
certain cases in illustration OF his argument, and Mr.
LOOMS replied BY showing that other resolutions,
besides the Cd Sd have reference 10 the Lesisla
i've department, and adding that The Convention
would not De embarrassed III its action. even If ar
gumen,s and conclusions Of an opposite character
were sometimes offered 10 its notice in The form OF
Reports.
Me. Rhoades took liberal view OF the PROPOSE
ion of Members who felt anxious that the orders OF
reference shosd express in SO many words the OBJ
ects OF reform and improvement which they had
been charged with He would not object 10 load
he several resolutions with specifications even to
autology if Members thought that by so doing the
minds o; The gentlemen on the various Committees
would be thereby better directed TO the particular
things required to be done. Mr.. LOOMS on the Sd |
resolution, as it was finally amended by Mr. o Con-
or, differed from MIR. Rhoades He liked the princi
pie but was Az erse TO the Pathology.
Mr. Townsend would allow the Legislature no !
powers that had no, been expressly delegated to il
through Constitution approved of by The people,
To W hich nav uver. Ia h. p6da6 To1nd '