The Columbian fountain., 1846-02-10

after, the Pope gave The countries west OF the
Azores, or Western Islands, 10 Ferdinand and
Isabella. II was q good title when given, II
was acquiesced ID by all the powers. Inc
Pope had the power to delhrone kings, ana
that power was exercised and submllted TO-
The British cannot object TO our claiming Ofe-
gon under this title derived from Spain lhey
cannot impugn the title, because they nos hota
Ireland By the self same lills. Pope Adr'an
gaze that Island to Henry H.
Great Britain upholds that title as OF va
lid authority in the case OF Ireland, and must
allow ours from the same source 70 be equahy
valid. The grant originally in the Bible was
to man. When communities were iormed'
legislation decided rights to,ProPerty. Between
nations, it was consent, or treaties, tor that was
all thar international law consisted OF at any
time. Ourtitle TO the whole OF Oregon was as
perfect as the Speakers right TO the char
which he held. Great Britain had no more u
tie thereto than he, Mr.. A. had TO the SPEAK,
er's chair. Now, different nations had planted
colonies on our continent Discovery and ex-
ploration have been held to give a lille; but
partially so. In Estate papers," vol !, we
find that Charles lst Of England, gave to the
colony Of Massachusetts Bay, all the continent
betaoeen ". Lat. 42to AZ, and from sea 70 sea
from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Charles "a,
gave the same TO Virginia. Other kings, gave
other boundaries to the same and other lands.
Now, what right had the Kings Of England to
grant titles anymore than the Pope. II the IL
tie OF Virginia was disputed to the land on
which Norfolk or Richmond stand, where
would they have to refer to if not to the char
ter Of Charles ed. To no where else could
they refer, except perhaps to our own declara-
ton of independence. Massachusetts, and
Rhode Island now have a controversy as to
the title to the jurisdiction over several town
ships, thatwl have to be determined by grants
from William and Mary, who were usnrpers
themselves. Queen Elizabeth said thai the
Pope had no right to give away the lands OF
this continent; but what right had she. The
Kings of Europe following The example Of the
Pope of Rome, established such rules as suited
their occasions. Their titles are all imperfect
Discovery is no title in itself. Exploration
comes next and only strengthens it. Contlnu-
ity next does not perfect it. Nothing is a per-
feet but possession---"o occupation" it you
please. Andit is Occupation" that we mean
to have, by giving notice to terminate the cor
vention, which says there shall be mo occu-
patton" by one exclusive of the other while
the convention is in force. (To prove his po
sition he here read from the constitution itself)
The bays, rivers, and harbors were to be open
ed to ali nations for 10 years, afterwards con
fined to the two powers without prejudice to
each other. But il is not occupancy. 1t is
naked right to hunt and trap, and its object
was to prevent dispute between the two re-
spec,ive parties. 83- @a@
Down 10 this day Great Britain pretends to
no title 10 the land, or exclusive Jurisdiction
over it, except that it is an open question; the
country being occupied by barbarous people.
She will however claim il if we let her. Her
claim at present is in behalf of the Hudson's
Bay Company for hunting purposes-to keep
it wild and open for bears and buffaloes-
kind Of vast game preserve, under her home
ssgame laws" or other similar ones. We claim
il for civilized man and his habitations. We
claim it 10 make '.the desert blossom as the
rose.n For our Western PIONEERS, that they
may "go ahead;" for the establishment Of free
and independent sovereign republics; for man
and woman to increase and multiply and re-
plenish that part of the earth; for the citizens
of the whole earth; and to reclaim it from be-
ing mere hunting grounds. Mr.. "A. was pro-
ceeding to cite some more authorities when
his hour expired. 8
Mr.. C. ]. Ingersoll moved suspension of
the rules so as to enable Mr.. A. to complete
his argument. Much confusion and noise en-
sued, but the motion was finally LAID on the Ia,
BILE, and
Mr.. Haralson of Georgia took the floor in ia
vor Of the notice, and was followed by Mr.. c.
]. Ingersoll, in favor Of the notice. He was
followed by .4s @
Mr. Darrah of Penn. also in favor, when
the hour having arrived for terminating the
debate, the voting on the joint resolutions and
their amendments commenced (NoTE) Our
ing the time the three last speakers occupied
the floor, the reporter was attending IN the Sc
nate. Na"t @tt *"
The first proposition before the committee
was for authorizing the President TO give the
notice forthwith. The word forthwith" on
motion of Mr.. c. J. Ingersoll was stricken out
by acclamation.
The amendment making the notice discre-
tionary with the President was rejected by
ayes &C, nays 1876. 2a9 @'a'i
After the rejection Of numerous proposed "a
mendments, division was had by tellers on
one to the effect ''that the Oregon question is
no longer subject OF negotiation or compro-
mise. Ten members passed through the tel
lers in the affirmative of this amendment,
Judge Douglass leading the van, and General
Mcconnell bringing up the rear guard. The
applause was tumuluous that this little Spar
tan band received. a9
An amendment that the Oregon question is
still open for honorable negotiation, and should
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