The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-10-05
WasHrSGroS, Oct. 3, 1886.

WasHSGroN, Oct D, lsa6
The WinneSugo Indians aud the u s. C0m"issi0ner'--
.another interesting Conference-a Second Proportions
from the Great Father efhe Red Men-Spseeh of Old
Gull reply-Doubfs tohether their Great Father has
considered the possibility of offending the Great SPIRIT
Details Of the meeting.
The Council between the U. s. Commissioners and tho
deputation Of the Winnebagoes held Thursday last,
near the War department. in reference to the transfer Of
the tribe from their in Iowa to another coun-
try remote from the presence Of civilization, hsv-
ing adjourned till 10 day at ten o'clock this morn
ing the conference resumed, in pursuance of
luton. The little filed with company, In
GLIDING large proportion of ladies'
Mr. X Paris said to the deputaon that since their
last meeting the Commissioners had consulted their
Great Father, and the result OF that conference would
be stated by his associate on his right. Col Albert
Col Albert accordingly and read the proposition
from manuscript in his hand Mr. Lowery, the intelli
gent interpreter transating it, and repeating 1t in the
Wnnebago tongue to the delegation sentence by sen.
tence and the Indians signyng that they comprehend
ed 1t by uniform How! how" equivalent to hear
hear" or yes yes" The proposition as read by
Col Albert sets forth
That oday the commissioners had promised TO submit
is5 Che chiefs had declined to to the Missouri coun
try where the United States owned lands and preferred
a country NORTH where the United States did not own
lands TO satisfy You therefore, it will be necessary to
purchase lands before you can be removed. Under
treaty to be made IL will be condition INA, you 40 no.
necessity that should remove before long az the
State laws Of Iowa will Otherwise be extended over you
the Mississippi rivers, large tract whore you Will
probably be disturbed long as your people shall
last Or offer you another tract part Of the coun
try North Of the St Peters river within the Great Bend
ofthat rlver lin Wisconsin terrtory; but we cannot
twenty wears i will be included within the limits Of
State But you that tract for twenty yee
and as long thereafter may not be required for State
purposes You can take choice Of either of these tracts
you select some other. But one thing We wish
sale fract of 10 d
We will give you $3.50 600 for our land and property in
the States and territories of the United States Beyond
that will not 60 No part OF the money to be paid
until you remove TO- your new homes. Upon
your removal, we will pay you ten IN, dollars
paid to you defray the expenses Of removing your,
selves After you reach your new home, another PIG
$40 900 for your subsistence the year after your
rival This will leave you $lloOO OF the price due on
this sum $50 600 will be paid the Chiefs open
Gill; to prepare in removing and TO enable the Chiefs 70
ses the debts Of the snd Ds ns anna% on the
paid by the United States Tor the support Of schools
among you, and improvements-your REMOVAL to take
procured after you shall have received notice to
move This is all the proposition we have to mako.
Little Ill., the chief orator, being in elegant parase,
ndposed after late hours on the preceding evening" it
The old Gull IA stout athletic Of sixty years Of
agel to reply in behalf Of the tribe He came forward,
shook hands with each OF the three commissioners and
stepped back into his place, and said -
Fathers! we shake hands Nth you this morning. and
with thanks the Great Spirit salute brothers and
sisters Fathers the chiefs present have heard the offer
Of Great Father. We must say, In reply that we
disappointed We expected to hear different talk
from Great Father this morning. The words Of our
Great Father told by Father at Burlington,
Gov Dodge induced us TO think that he wouid 40
great deal for than he promises today ne saa
the voice of father in Iowa that he knew nat
we poor, that needed great many tnings
which could not obtain ourselves o9, Wn'cn ms
chiefs present ask time to take INTO tn
proposition of our Great Father. We want 10 TAX
over We have always been ready TO listen 10 the voice
of our Great Father when be speaks 10 u.s. lie asked
rs and we have given him already three large tracts OF
co,ntrv we rave them to him, because he 50 he re-
ouired them From the first time we coded our Great
lather anv lands there always some reason why he
,,an,.a that pa rcuar tract The first time II was
mineral country; and he said we could not work II,
and that he could. Thus have surrendered our land
two or three ii es Fathers! we were glad to hear
from YOU in the opening OF this council that you were
ANXIOUS TO get through and settle this matter TO
satisfaction; the proposition OF our Great Father
this morning will only delay our business. When We
saw our Great Father in 81, (Ar. Van Buren, we gave
him up large country, between the Mississippi and
Wisconsin rivers We have now heard your pro-
position, and ask day TO think Of IT,
Major ASDpEws and said, that there fur.
Their business before the meeting he would submit few
remarks In reply to the Old Guils about delay
need only be said that the commissioners had acted
with great promp,ness. We had no knowledge OF any
Indian councils proceeding with grester DESPATCH In
regard TO the land the tribe had coded 10 the gene go
vernment their great father thought they had Desn wen
paid for them. They had been made rch py nose
they should complain being when their annuities
were large. They were, perhaps, the very rcneN
tribe the continent They received upwards OF ssa