Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1846-04-30

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tho subject Aud, far this went Mr. A. did sheeruy
admit that the genoman had, in Substance subsian,acd
one OF his positions lie gave the gentleman from Penn
sylvania credit TOT having told pretty truth And
this part Of the subject reminded Mr. A. OF tho well known
anecdote OF the Indian who coming the door of wes
tern se'usr told him that he had Just from brook
nesr by, where, BY the side Of large white there
stood noble deer, and II the would 20 quickly he
might shoot him. lie then closed his alton BY
asking for dram as reward for the intelligence. The
farmer readily the liquor, and. saatchinK his ride ran
down TO the place appointed but deer OF deer
YVES To be seen Coming back, hs met the Indian, and
accused him OF having deceived HIM why" said the red
man, "dd YOU 40 TO the place 7" ayes" "And didn't
you lind the brook t eyes" "And tho tree 2" .Yes
but didn't lind the deer" SWELL" replied the Indian
" told you truths le aud that's pretty well for
an Indian" The gentlemen had hardly up to the H.
dams mark though he did not apply To him the word e"
because that would not be parliamentary.
Mr.. BARCLAY MARTIN here appealed TO the Chair
to Know whether this IN crdeti
The SPEAkER replied that. in like this, where
the rules had been suspended for the purpose ao
the gentleman To make personal explanation and anoth
er gentleman 10 reply 10 It, II very difficult say with
precision what exactly in order and what not
The House had suspended all rules OF Order but gen
emen would be governed by their OF propricy
In avoiding offensive language.
Mr. ASHMUN said that he had expressly declared that
he did not intend TO apply the offensive word the gentle
man from Pennsylvania. These charges of his were his
mistakes: and thegenoman had been happy to ex-
h'b one case OF Accuracy aRnst five Mistakes and that
was pretty well Tor the gentleman. No atcmpt had been
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rue aud was under these circumstances the gen.
teman told the House that he had gone into tho State
partment To seek for further materials OF accusation IL
was very material A. as tie gentleman said, he had the
Tree run OF the State Department. that he should there
To see what he could find The gentcmans whole
count showed tina! he had been engaged strenuous e
Tort TO get something which would enable HIN with greater
snow OF evidence tn traduce Mr.. Webster.
NOW, then, the question before the House. by what
means od tho gentleman get that which he had brought
aud read to the House' With what fairness had this pre-
of his
Department. Again he asked. by what nsdns had this
been accomplishment The House had made a solemn call
on inc Executive IN relation To the application OF this
cret und The President had explicitly refused comply
with the call aud had stated his usuyng for the
REFUSAL that the law and OF his country and his
own os'h oi oihee expressly forbade him make such
disclosure lie might not in the MT
expose these records any eye They placed
under seal OF confidence which he dare not break and
he had added very satisfactory why would he
eAPeoeht ana peTnleous TO the public service 10 do
et after all this the gentleman from Pennsylvania stood
up IN that House, and. with a bOldness truly astonishing,
proc aimed TO the House that he in possession OF
the information thus kept in secret Now, what Mr. A.
wanted 10 know how the gentleman got hold Of these
extracts If extracts they The Prssdeniold the House
oelay that these records under the seal Of secrecy
"ho had broken that seal Not the President the pre-.
sent Secretary OF State Mr. A fully exempted them from
SO dshonorabe charge lie had rcmotes idea that
would 50 violate both their honor a their pub
TIC dutY IL must have been undeng base pan.
der No honorable would suffer himself to be 50 made
use o. Who had furnished the gentleman from Pennsyya-
MA with the keyl had he one OF his own Did he nick
the locks and break into the secrecy which the President
would not violated Il the gentleman did reveal who il
was that hsd communicated him this information the
suspicion and the responsibility must him. lie had
these records here and according his show
h ne mad been where he ought not to Who else had
been held responsibe Had clerk been driven out at
office Tor breach OF official condcncel Had tho gentle
man communicated TO who had been his foul agent
IN this uansacionl Mo- he took the whole upon himself
lie admit ed that he had broken the secret recesses
whee the President told the House he had night GO
and certainly where the House had right ntrude-
The President had stated that these records
placed under the guardianship of special clerk but had
the gentleman stated whether it he who violated his
uusti lie said he had stumbled certain aud un-
sought information, which occasioned him the greatest
surprise How he TO stumble on" this iniormationl
The genueman's reminded Of the experience
OF thief who having broken into some dwelling house
IN the darkness OF night while cropping around search of
Punder, stumbled Unexpectedly sgainst Of the iun
ture, or came upon spoil which he did know
be there The gcnleman's action seemed stealthke
proving about IN secret place where be had right
b.
Mr.. CHAPMAN here called Mr.. A. TO ORDER and made
a lew remarks not heard by the Reporter.
Mr.. ASHMUN said he had but carried out the gentle
mans own graphic figure Tie had told the House lao had
stumbled on something in the State Department Mr.. A
had only Ventured carry the picture little further.
Mr.. BARCLAY MARTIN spoke TO order.
AHd The CHAIR again explained.
Mr. ASiIMbN said he would leave that part Of the
subject and go to matter Of more importance.
lie would now invite the House liulo while tn the
gentemans charges against Mr.. Webster
In Judging OF him witness and the credbity Of his
testimony was necessary TO recoec tho position in which
he stiod lie had brought an express charge that Mr.
Webster had appropriated of the service fund Of
the State Department TO hs personal and private use
Now, Mr.. a. should have supposed that the gentleman
from PennsySania was the last the last this
country who would have yentured serious charge Of OIL
cal peculaon against any other man. lie repeated the
remark He should have supposed that that gentleman
would have been the last TO bring such charge. The
pf h.x IL
ed him IN the iaee-~ould have pased his tongue in at
tempting To speak about any mans using the public money
improperly. Could it have been with Of withdraw
ing mems thoughts and restrictions from his dein
queney by directing them the alleged populations of 9th
eH That gsnsnsn had himself held public office un.
der Government, and he had continued 20 hold till he
turned out Of by Gen. Jackson for official pccula
ton, the very first month he in the Presidency.
MT HcPuNs here - ORDER but .overruled by
the Speaker Mr. Hopkins appealed, and the appeal
laid on the table by ayote Of 30 TO GIL
MIR. ASHMUN resumed. lie he'd Just stated that the
House must Judge of the weight OF the accusation and the
testimony from the character aud position OF tho gentleman
who was both accuser and witness. The himself
had once been public officer, and Immediately the
accession OF President Jackson had been dismissed from
Office Tor abuses connected with the public money Every
one knew that Gen. Jackson had into office under
pledge to reorm abuses IN the Government And one Of
the very first OF his administration had been remove
from office the District Attorney for the district OF
Pennsylvania on the ground Mr. A. had stated The EI-
ecutye documents Of S3940 contained full history OF
all connected with this matter. The gentleman from Penn.
syYana, had been removed the 1st Of April 1922 al
though his Of Office would have expired Febru-
airy following. But the honest indignation of Andrew
Jackson against oil pecuston and mhlyeaon would
allow this person remsin in office that short remnant
of time he turned HIM out Immediately Yet although
lac removed in april, 1929, his official were
closed until 1880, ten years afterwards. In 1886
was instituted against him by the government. He
reported public dehuer. BY way Of off, he made
the most charges against the Government many
him Of thirty seven thousand dollars. With the assistance
Of such he could ge tho gentleman paid of the
bulk Of mis- money, but judgm,nw still rendered sgai
him for 80 955. This in May 1851; but, though the
iquidsod balance found by Of the United
States IN that year, II not I'LL the 18th Of January,
1899. that the astinsalment Of his public debt paid.
How is account made up the documents themselves
tuld IN part and tradition told the residue. There
certificate Of Judge Hopkins, from which, appeared that,
under the direction ths gentleman District Attorney
six hundred and hiiy-one bes had been found by the