The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-04-10


10 withhold from the Senate. Mr. Clayton deman-
ded the ayes and noes
Mr.. MosEnrAD argued for the passage Of the ~
solution. The Senate were the eve of acting
upon the notice; and for right understanding Of
the question, IL necessary, to have all the in
formation on the subject, which the President might
have II in his power TO communicate.
Mr. ALLEN replied at length against the resolu-
ton, and referred again TO the occasou, under Mr..
Tyler's administration, when Mr. Allen had moved
call tor correspondence upon Oregon, which was
voted down. He took the opportunity here TO give
MS reasons Tor that resolution; those reasons were
connected with an impression which was abroad
at the time, that the Oregon bill, which had passed
the Senate, would not pass into law, becsuse Il
would be intercepted by the Presidents veto. This
was the boast OF the British Minister Now, Mr..
Allen had desired to know whether this idea were
connected with the official correspondence upon
the subject or not. But he had been voted down, On
the ground that it would imply want OF confidence
in the President.
Mr. BxgEsE moved to take up the special order.
Mr.. CALHOUN asked the Senate to allow him
one word IN reference to me remarks Of the Senate!
ever said anything OF probable veto OF the Oregon
bill referred TO nor was any member OF the cabinet
advised OF any such probability.
Mr.. ALLEN did not say 90; but VIII read
what Sir Robert Peel said OF the assurances he had
OF veto.
Mr. CALHOUN said. that whatever might have
been the purpose OF President Tyler a. 10 the veto
OF the Oregon bill, he had kept II close In his own
mind
Mr.. ALLEN said that he had not said any thing
about the President and his cabinet He passed up
to the Secretary the book containing the printed
speech, he had referred TO. Of Sir Robert Peel, II
which SIR Robert says, shat it il impossible for
Mr. Tyler to sign the Oregon bill after he has ex-
pressed the desire TO negotiate" (Lsushter) 'He
(Slr ROBBERY would trust that IN the assurances Of
the executive government OF the United States"
Mr. CALHoUN There were no regular assur-
ances. the assurances spoken OF were drawn from
the Presidents d~slre 10 negotiate.
Mr. ALLEn.-What the dictionary says. believe
he means. do not take the construction bv infer
ence, or by what other Senators would have II to
mean. Sir Robert Peel trusted in "the assurances
Of the executive government OF the United States,
that II will not give its sanction TO the legislative
measure" for Oregon.
Mr. CALHOUN AS to the assurances here spoken
Of, every Senator will see that il was Z mere de-
caration from the fact that the President desired 70
negotiate.
Mr.. ALLEN IL don't care about deductions or I'd.
ditons. There are assurances here spoken OF (; and
you can make nothing else out OF It.
MR. DICKINSON TT AL. MR.. wERsrER-TH1 oar.
CON QUEsroN-N Z BOUNDARY.
On motion Of Mr.. BREgsE, the regular order a
the day being resumed
Gen CAss said that he did no. intend 70 trsspao
upon the time of the Senator from New York but
he rose to ask the Senator from Massachusetts 70
read the letter which he had referred to Yesterday
from Mr. Wheaton, late Y. s. Minister a Berlin
Mr.. WRBsTRR, was understood to say that he had
laid aside his notes. He had also forgotten The
Gen. CAss-I think it was in October or Novsm-
MI WEBSTER looked into book.
Gen. CAss-Dd not the Senator read II IN ma
nuscript
Mr.. WEBSTER sir; I think it is connected
with some mes ssge OF 1913
Gen CAss only desired to remark upon einfs
point, respecting the time Of the rejection Of the
qnintuple treaty. / think ! recouecs the po.ns
substantially.
Mr. WKBsrER-Had not the Senator better wait
Gen. CAss-Therc is only one point-aad after
some further conversation across, Gen Cass pro-
ceeded 10 give his recollection OF the passage IN
Mr. Wheaton's letter, referring to the qulntriPls
treaty. MIR. Wheaton had expressed the opinion
that the treaty of Washington had had the effect ct
leading iothe rejection Of the qulntrple treaty efl62
II was mere anachronism, because the Washlag-
ton treaty was not signed until August lSaz whereas
the quntripc treaty, the "a OF June OF the same
year, was as dead as the mummies OF Egypt. In
confederation Of this TACT Gen. Cass read from his
private journal, las supposedly memoranda OF seve-
raj interviews with NJ. Guzot, IN Paris, upon tho
same subject lie had one other question 10 pro-
pose, and that was how TAR post aro'c0I can sisecs
aprevious act OF aggression
Mr. WEBsrKR.-Wllt the Senator from New York
permit me the floor
Mr. DICKINSON an explanation, Dut NOT t0r
the purpose OF making speeches.
Mr.. WEBSTER The Senator from New York has
the right To the floor
Mr.. DICKINSON Il gave way for question from
the Senator from Michigan
Mr.. WEBSTER We'll, suppose he will allow NJ
time to answer lit
Mr.. DICKINSON Certainly. sir.
Mr.. WEBSTER then explaine that post av0Wah
as was called, II 1t came IN, as IN this case Of
Mcleod, before the punishment OF the individual
he should be released, and the authority under
which he had acted be held responsible.
Gen. CAss 1t the government did the act, 10
had no doubt OF It's exclusive responsibility.
Mr. WEBSTER Certainly, he did it under the au'
thority OF the British government.
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MIR WEBSTER referred to the letter Of Mr.. Ste
venson to Lord Palmerston, complaining Of the act
OF the seizure and destruction Of the Caroline, IN
act OF the government.
Gen CAss-How could it be 4 how could the
British government know of the circumstances
which would lead to the necessity Of this trans
action1
Mr.. WEBSTER referred the Senator to Mr.. Van
Canadian rebellion. the Governor Of Canada, un-
der the authority OF the British government, had
adopted measures Of resisting invasion Of Cana
dian refugees from the United states He did re-
sst il: and on the 18th December 1887, this act Of
the Caroline, 40 one of the measures adopted under
the general authority Of the government, for the
suppression Of the rebe lion:
Gen. CAss-H the British government had Az
thorized the invasion Of the United States, il IVES
at once q cause Of war.
With some further remarks between Mr.. Web.
ster and Gen. Cass, to the same purport, the subject
was dropped.
DICKINSON AGAINST wKBsrn.
AT about one o'clock Mr.. Dickinson ross to hie
defence against the terrible cuttingup he received
Of Mr.. Webster yesterday. The crowd began to
increase in the galleries, and many members from
the House appeared IN the lobby below.
Mr. DICKINSON, alter some general remarks upon
the courtesies OF the Senate, said mat he regretted
that the first occasion Of their violation which hs
was called upon to witness should have been from
the Senator from Massachusetts; spoke Of Mr..
Webster's unprecedented attack OF yesterday, Of
the sneenng manner IN which that Senator had
treated the Senator from New York but he Mr..
d. would not thus permit the hon. Senator to 20.
cape in the smoke OF his own cannon Mr.. d. had
never seen such an exhibition % that Of yesterday.
L was characterized by an utter want Of that cour
tesy Of manner which 10 Recognised among Sena-
tors and among gentlemen
Mr.. MANGUM Order.