The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1846-04-09


cited also the correspondsnce between Mr. Fox and Mr.
Forsyth upon tho same subject Mr. Fox justified the
arose whether the British held itself responsible
for the act In November, lsa0, MLeod, charged
with the murder Of an American citizen on board
the steamer Caroline, was arrested 10 New York
processing and declared tia. tie British sc'srnsnt
was responsible for the affair Of the Carolins Mr. For
syth Dec 2s ls0 replies Mr. Fox declaring that hs
TACT OF the act being done under the authority OF the
British government not before known. Lord Pal
merston to Mr. Stevenson in 1884, sustains Mr. Fox
that the act was an act Of the British government He
read rom ,hs Letter Nor was Known that this w:s
Puohcy avowea act by the government OF Great brI
tain Did Mr. Van Buren, forbear to bring her TO an
account with knowledge OF the fact Why was L
Pslmsrson had concluded say nothing more about IT,
% the sursst evidence that the British was
view, he should not notice 1t at all Mr. webster de-
scribed the exctsm mt in England created upon
Just felt a. We Americans would have felt in such
case In this dilemma the matter stood when General
Harrison came into the gov:so@sns Genera. hsr,i;Sn
United States territory by the hostile force engaged In
the seizure Of the Caroline demanded an apology that
yet too late to make Mr. Webster said that the Soma
tor from Kentucky mr. Crittendsn) would remember
the discussion in the cabinet upon It A letter from
Lord Pamerston sndsd release of Mcleod Gen.
Harrison had said there apparent want Of courtse
on this demand Of Lord Pslmsrston but that wosid
not release MS from the wrong Of Obtaining NJ Lsod ass
prisoner He therefore, said to Mr. Fox that he should
consider him asking nothing than the release Of
Mr.. Fox informed, therefore. that II the United
States could enter no prossqui the prisoner should
ton Of the state courts He would ask the senator
from New York (Mr Dickinson, to produce bis proof
I'D h :r. d 3.
interference at all (sss Mr. Toxs letter demanding the
prisoner) Rsvs~ins the grounds Of the CASE he then
asked was not Gen Harrison right Was he Rot right
in demanding epaasion Of England Was mot that the
manly course Or, would you have had BIN TO fall
back from the lion upon the lamb Tns British gov,
eminent says, an resPonsblei am the authority II
did It'll ny sct-a the act Of the British people
subject the line. you seize him, he Ia 70 Be-
srrsgnsd-you will hang him for murder. Mr. Webster
Win tho American Dag Sm and under iss
ty. should 80 over to Oregon, and commit On Outrage
ss:ns, Great Britain; and three year. should sisPss,
and the again TO enter British territory and
the municipal authorities were TO seize him. and imprt
him. and execute him would We not declare var ~
enough who would hesitate to make It cause Of
war7 No, sir; there is not on American III the land
Sou "a, max. csu.s Of Cen Harrison Va:
entirely right Was II not right that he should see .
the sea Of 70: ,s s m s rhs
sion against the United States. he argued vas not IN the
capture Of the Caroline Had she bssn captured 10 se
aggression But aggression In the invasion Of
the territory OF the United States for bslgersnt purs
invasion Of the sanctity Of territorial rge
The vessel engaged in carrying arms and suppliss
to and the instruction in the territories " ire noy
power some men 20 engages am 0ad ,ss ouv il *
invasion Of our territory.
Mr.. ALLsr-ls there any proof Of tho TACT that the
vessel was 30 engagedf should AXE 70 nsvs inc PROOF
Mr Wrssrrn said there was abundant proof Refer
10 the Of satso ocal letters to
Great Britsn proved By the vss .ss OF the case
SER but Lord Palmerston with his usual had
said It cut out Of the ce and that IL object w 20
msnS To chos with on
bank would suggest that a. answer to the honorable
Chairman ON Foreign Relations daughter IN me 81.
leries MIR Webster advertsd to the entire omission
Of MIR Van Buren, ask reparnton for the vessel sssed
and the property destroyed AZ another evidence o. ne
lawless character He remembered also, that person
had come on to Washington for the purpose Of asking
reparstion of Mr. Van Buren, but he was tod no nad
better hold his tongue or he might come 20
expeditions upon friendly power ne QUO xeeP nas
tongue Mr. Webster in support Of what ~ stated q
Cen Harrison referred his cabinet composed IN eoa
ton to himself of Messrs Ewing Crittendsn, Bell Bad
err and Granger Again. Cen Harrson, ~ militsry man.
aurs and mprisonmsnt Of Mcleod and bic trial
State Court when he acted under the authority OF n
and for an act Tor which n
sbilty. And Mr.. Webster confessed hs surprise tao
proceedings under the authority Of the S'a.s
upon the declaration that the opinion Of ne oate 81
New York not respectable opinion neither IN me
results to which il came nor In the reasons WHICH
gave for it. Mr. Webster argued upon this point that 10
all affecting our foreign relations the Juoi;aI
p rS is sss SSden II: next
the opening two days Of Mr. Allen the notice.
in which Mr.. Allen dweit with particular dssPpso
val upon the conducts Of the government. under Mr.
Webster, in this Mcleod affair. MIR. Webster SAID ne
had been In the Senate during the delivery OF that
Supreme Cout below at the tme nor had he copy Of
the printed speech by him, excepting paper whicn
gave 1t only In general terms
Mr. ALLsr said, il tho Senator desired 1t, he would
state what had laid upon the Ashhuron treaty ana
his. object in. the statements he had made But ne
would not trouble the Senate nov, unless were inc
dnsr n tha Gan frou0
Mr. WEssrEs said that upon the whole he would pre-
for to wait for the printed sPsoch a. be han M present
York nearest the Chair (r Dtckinson did not seem to
be satisfied with his light but he borrows largely
Speech ' He would srst examine this jewel which the
honorable gentleman has worked into his own disdsm
sssa y NJ %s: Too out
oforder to refer to such speech had not the senusman
from New York incorporated j a. part o. his own ne
would thank God II he could be assured that such an
ebuiition this was made out Of 9 rooo. ne
would proceed to read By parts and pare. - Hs WEB
the day OF the passage the Oregon resoa 100 10 the
House. and from the portion incorporated IN late
speech in the Senate BY Mr. Dcs,n:On ia TO- = rak
should result from it. il would not be produced y dr
Polk but 1t would be inherited from Mr. We ~ =
In the first place, the Canada revolution and coro
versy took place under the sdmnistra'ion OF Van
a;ssr noe >; ss m0 ~ lS d g M
Buren, himself though an admirsr Of that genusnaoS
general policy; that he acted oxtfomeSy WfOn8 On
that occason In resisting the illegal sxsctions OF
Great Britain And he viewed that matter - CONSIDER.
able tom among the causes which led 70 tho ovehrow
Of the party which had supported Mr. Van Buren,. Of
which he himself was one. Dat OF this contrevsrsy
arose the arrest Of Alexander Mcleod. what he in
tended 10 state nov consisted Of facts not yet gene
rally Known but which would soon be made know ior
they were In progress Of publication, and ne nea 10
When Mcleod was arrested just before Gen HarrieonS
DEATH and Mr. Tyler not yet at home - hs suoces
sor MI weostsrwho was d Jsese tine ss%n; yc.
MIR Webster wrote to the Governor OF New xoN
letter, marked private" 10 which the 0ovsrner 49,
told that he must RELEASE McLsodor see the
Commercial emporium the city Of New York, iaii In
ashes" = ....-~
Now tho Senator from New York, to mark thn sore
distipctv has IT, only that the letter was wsn ~
the Secretary hand but that Il vas sent ~ -
press which appears to have been expressly pus 10.
Mr. Die I Issos-wiM the Senator allow me
Mr WEssrss.-O yos; III allow you. lLsughssr,
above and below -,