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Mr. Webster. cersinly not.

Mr. Cass What | said was, that we
were called on by the President 10 give this
notice; tba, If we gave it, and there was
ITO negotiation, and England did not re-
eede, and we went on 90 carry on, the o.
ther measures recommended by the Presi-
dent, that then war would be certain. "a
lsugh,9 Iwih repeat my position | isay,
il we give this notice, and there shall be
no negotiation; and If England adheres 10
her pretensions, ana we 90 on 10 tske pos
session of Oregon white she is therein pos.
session, then there will be---gentlemen
may nse any term they please, Much
meriment.l
Mr.. Webster The only contingency
the Senator fears is thai England will con-
tinue her claim. Now, ! would ask tie
honorable Senator whetherhe expects that
England win ever Surrender all of Oregon
10 any Power OH earthl
Mr.. Cays. have my doulls thar she
will. Iasked, as long ago as in Octeber
last, when she had ever reIinqnished any
claim to territory she had ever setup
Mr.. Webster. Exactlyi and ii comesl lo
the same thing. The gentleman thinks
that e shah not rpcede, and Bneland viii
not recede; ana, then, what more likely to
happen tiTsn war; II Has the Senator's
argument, and not any particular exPrrS-
sion he employed, which gave me the idea
that such was his Impression, do rot
charge the gentleman with saying that "a
war was inevitablpi" hut what he did say
vet rings in my ears, aid on every return
Of the IKE language am reminded of the
senrpncp with which the Eomhn Serator
ended oil his speeches, "DcseRaa rrt Car
hngo"
am dpsirous Of expressing the sent.
ne--l~hhout wishing to embarrats the
Administration: If negotiations are PeI'-
ing | will hold my tonghei my tongue
shall 6e blstered before | shall say any
thing against our own titte 50 long as thPre
are negotiations pendnei hut the Presi'
dent must see the embar assment undei
which we stand3 afA willing 10 aid the
Administration. and will aid il 10 obi /.
all to which we are Justly entitled )-thn
must know something Of the viewE, ex'
pertations. ends, and otjecrs of the Presr
dent in recommending this noIive, ican'
not much longer be quiea in the existing
uosture or affairs, when no measures OF
dele1ce are recommended toHs lat negoA
tatlon is held out as likely to blmg the
question to a settlement by Engand's siv'
ing up the whole matter in dispute, My
douM Of that s as strong as that express
ed by the Senator iIom Michigan, (Mr.
Cass,l | say here, so far as my own
knowledge goes, that it is not the lndgs
ment of this country, that Il is hui the
Judgment of this Senate, that the Govern
ment of the United States shall run the
hazard of war for Oregon, by renoHnC'
ing as no longer fit for consideration pro-
positions made by ourselves to Great Bri-
tain thirty years ago, and repeated again
and again before the world. | do not
speak Of any specific propositions, bot Of
the general idea, orthe general plan so JUST
" suggested by the Senator from Missouri,
lMr. Benton,) Of separating the Interests
of British subjects and American citizens
beyond the Rocky Mountains. REPEAT
the assertion that il was not the Judgment
of this country that we are bound to reject
our own propositions, made over and over
again thirty and twenty years ago. do
not believe that such is the judgment Of
this Senate. have the fullest belief that
the proposition proposed by the gentleman
from Georgia concur with thr views OF d
large majority ofthis body. IA voice, Yes,
Of two thirdsl
A gentleman near me says Of two thirds
of it; and am willing TO try that question
to-day, this hour this minutei am ready
now to take the question whether this dffis
Guilty shall or shall not be settled by COM
promise. Compromise | can understand;
but negotiation, with a fixed resolution to
take and not to give, with a predetermina9
ton not 10 take less than the whole, is what
do not and cannot understand in diplo,
macy. ! wish we could take that qdeston
now not for the purpose Of giving intor
nation in any quarter, but wish to put
an end to the present distressing, distract
ing, annoying state of things. There are
many things we should attend TO. all OF
whirh are greatly and materially ehbarrdss-
II L., ,l,o t1rp,npN ,,Ositidn AZ THE "a fair,