The New York herald., 1845-09-26

charges Of mpurty and immortality and thsfsupon
fee Of bishop in the Church of God and from all the
functions Of the sacred ministry. Therefore be it
Rssolved-rhat this convention. without hereby ex-
pressing opinion the canoncal questions grow
ing out OF the said sentence, deem it their duty to de-
clare and do hereby declare their solemn conviction
that the Right Rev Bishop Ondsrdonk even his res.
toraton practicable perform episcopal
functions in this diocese with any prospect Of useful
ness TO the Church-(Great sensstion)
JOHN c. SPENCER considered that the convention were
prepared to act the resolutions that the regular
the convention had better be proceeded WITH
and moved that the resolutions be laid on the table
PREsipENr-Are you now ready for the motion to lay
on the tabie-t"No" by the whole hsuse)
MIMsgR thought tnat the subject should be dis
posed Of and that if the motion to lay the table be
adopted the resolutions would be surely defeated.
Jso. SPENCER could not see by what authority tho
gentleman speaks the feelings of this Convention. He
Is prepared to say whether this Convention, in its
legislative capacity had right to pass upon these
utions and he himself was the impression that
the regular business should have the preference
The PsrsIDrsr did not think thnt any thing could be
Mr. SPENCER thought the rules say that the first bus
shall be done the second day the reports OF com.
mtses &c. and that the last business shall be miscea
nsous business.
Judge OAKLEY asked where is the gentleman who is
prepared to vote all the reports OF the commit
tees and said that nothing be done until this motion
is disposed Of
by the President who said that are ady one gentleman
each side had been heard and he thought that sui
cient indulgence had been shown
Moved that this question be taken by order.
A MEMBER wishes to know whether this motion can be
introduced without suspension Of the rules OF order1
PREsIpENr-The object Of the vote is to ascertain
whether il is in order.
The question was then taken with following result
OF the Clergy, 81 voted in the affirmative and AZ in the
negativeand OF the Laity 66 in the affirmative and So
in the negative. So the resolutions were laid on the
table.
motion was madeby a controversy between Judge Oak
ley and John A. Spencer as to whether reports in
order.
The reading Of reports proceeded with and the
port OF the Trustees Of the Episcopal Fund was read in
the late Bishop they had taken the subject Of
paying the Bishops salary into consideration, and had
rcluded that as mere fducary agents they were not
to the Bishop his salary to the Sd OF January last and
that they would retain the subsequent interest amounting
$l!66 90, subject to the order of the Convention; and
that they had applied to the Legislature and had obtain
ed charter constituting them body polite to take
JOHN A. KING and said that meeting Of the
gregaon which he representatives, held in the month of
August last, at which certain resolutions were passed
which he would present to the conventions he thinks
himself that this question must be met and the subject
disposed of-tha HE large vote which was given BY the
Laity this morning on the previous resolutions came
near being majority vote The diocese is now in the
condition Of Aock without shepherd, and there
such vote given this morning shows that the matter
must not be allowed to slumber. Tho time has come
when there must be separation between the Bishop OF
this diocese and the church, for long
respect him, because longer obey
him. When it has to that pass that Bishop Is pro-
hesitate without dhonor to- express his opinion;
is consolins to see the vote given to-day and it shows
with force and energy that the late Bishop be
restored and il he can't be restored should he remain
And this situation hat this the important Of all
doceses in the Union should be placed in the only
without head to rule and govern 1t! isl come to this in
this great community We must look seriously and cha
raby on the subject and if the day should ever
nsulled heads He then read the following preau
BILE and resolutions -
At a meeting of the Rector Wardens and vestry of
Grace Church. Jamaica l. H. the 2sth day of August
lS45 to choose delegates to attend the annual
ton of the diocese the following preamble and
we aO1ara aftarl liscu uecin
Whereas the present condition Of the diocese arising
from the suspension OF its Bishop from his holy Office and
ministrations by the decision of recognised by
the Of the Church. is of the deepest interest
and regret TO all good churchmen and the unity
and wants of the diocese require that such state Of
things should terminate as soon and as quietly may
be- and mono have greater deeper interest in
early and safe settlement of this question than the great
body OF the Laity Of this diocese
Therefore Resolved, the deliberate opinen Of this
Vestry that the resignation OF the Bishop alone
under the circumstances of the case, accomplish the
great end and desire OF every true churchman rsso
ration OF the diocese to Its late prosperous and united
position and in the event of such resignation that an
adequate provision should be made for his future sup
port
Resolved That copy of this preamble and resolution
be laid before the Annual Diocesan Convention by the
delegates from this Church.
Mr.. KING moved that the resolutions be received
MI SPENCER said that there was great deal involved
10 this question: and that il full OF responsibility
that such before occurred and that
bsraions should be conducted with irnpartiality
charity He attended this Convention in the hope of
said that action OF some kind 5nt thar this
is not the proper time We cannot 60 to homes be.
lieving the church without head, and be obliged to
acknowledge that we could not find a mode of relief
that il members would act dspassonately the subject
could be met and disposed Of If gentlemen prepar-
cd to make concessions and determined
come to the subject i'll proper spirit it will
enable the Convention to dispose OF the ques.
uon, and to adjourn in peace and harmony. He
then moved that the report OF the trustees OF the Eps
copal and the preamble and resolutions last rea be-
referred to committee OF ten clerical and lay dele
gates to report the state OF the diocese aud what
it best adoption the subject and that the
resolutions OF the Church OF the Ascension be referred
10 the same committee MessIs Spencer, Be- rien Sher-
wood, Brown, Metcalf Whitehaulse Mead, kip stoue
ia!lor Jones' Berriii, Anderson King Bradlsh, iiar
son, Constant, Curtis ana two others, appointed
the Committee who will make their report tomorrow
morning.
The report of the Standing Committee of last year was
then read IN which they say that the sta day of
nuary last, communication by the Rev. Pailander
Chase reached them, containing sentence OF the
uoH' and requiring the same to be promulgated; it be-
came their duty to ascertain the true OF
tence, for had been deposition, there would hsvs
been no difficulty. The Standing Committee referred
the subject to a Sub. Committee was ne case NOT
provided for in the can0ns, and doubts existing in the
mnds OF many course was proposed OF submitting the
intended action Of the Committee the conse alton of
the Bishop to which he assented.
On the 7th OF February last candidates for holy
orders applied to be ordained; the Committee resolved
to apply 10 the Bishop of New Jersey ordain them
but he declined, did the Bishop of Connecticut They
subsequently applied to others who likewise de- lined
on the grouni that as the Bishop suspended, the
a.ahuing committee were the proper ecclesiastcsl au
thority 10 act in the premises
Several letters in answer to the application of the
Standing Committee read.
The report was referred TO the Committee the
state Of the diocese.
Adjourned to this morning at nine o'clock.
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