New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1845-09-03
I.hor. Wnre. and Immigration.


lion Of Labor discussed in any way and WI enee'-
s,lly aid il by all means in our power The hNpre7-
en5- the cause of depression in the vast influx OF
Foreign Immigrants who 1T tbink-l depre-s inc
Wage of l. abor To obviate this tendency TO lower
and still lower wages. the Express proposes not a
dire, sioppasc Of Inmig grafton which II admits to
be impraciicable but he formation OF sulds OF
as.ocia ions Of the wor.inen Of the severa! trades
who IL SAYS,
.,,t,e,sbli.b some security that mechanics be or
bsv I.cr properly educated for the profession they
or. o. work IN that apprentices serve or haveset'eo'
a certsn number o. year, or Pefhsp7 th'y n-s., =.
~ some term 81 reside nee D'loic VIC -, -.
igrsni- skill should und.rDd the em3fah VI o''' ''
dencc the AmeTicanboTn'
These terms would be very hard on the poor IN
mi,raut. who lands here nearly or quite penniless'
and even though an indifferent workman and vii
ling ~ live in a garrett the poorest fare as the
Extr,, - represents must still have something TO
live On Il il not better to let him work, even at
moderate price than 10 send him 10 the Aims House,
And then. suppose the regular workmen were to
es-ab N such roles, how they to enforce them
Nccc sity hath no law, and destitute man VIII
WORK cheap rather than starve outright. The regu-
Lar iourneymen cannot sustain their reSuisl'o"N
without the cooperation Of the employers ana ine~
v II O. ten pursue the dictates OF mario" senn'er
esl rather than those Of a more generous iee'ins'-
The 5Jurneymen Printers, for example nave had
regular scale Of prices Tor their labor ever since we
have wed in the Ciy, yet the old Daily Adveriiser'
,.bicl, was the basis OF the Express never paid
then, and The Express follows rigidly in lis foot
s,en. When we wanted workat type setting, we
oood not apply at the Advertiser Office, because it
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10 the interens Of the craft and disreputable. We
shall he glad to hear that the Express has mended
it, WAYS in this particular, but if ii has II must be
recent Improvement Some OF our great publishing
house, pursue similar course. The consequence
is al impossibiity of maintaining any regular
price, whatever, and those who do pay the scale
have 10 sell their products in the market IN vigor
Gus competition with others who get their labor
done Ten to twenty five per cent cheaper VIII
the Express he p us TO a remedy for tins
The Express surely takes onesided view OF the
ipfa, nee of Foreign Labor. Ia the first place, our
European born artisans. having been subjected TO
greater hardships than common here. are as
cl-~ among the earliest TO detect and the hrmest To
resist any encroachment what they conceive TO be
tie X ighis OF Labor Next, we must consider thai
a very large portion Of our Immigrants labor IN the
least desirable departments, such as bod carrying
street paving, Homework, &c which few Amen
cans will engage in except as last resort AND
,hcn we must consider tina. laborer among us Is
not merely producer bat a consumer also. and If he
compctes with our shoefnakers lie IL a customer To
some tailor landlord grocer, doctor, &c. &c. II be
is a tailor he is a customer for shoes cloths, groce
ries rent &c and probably pays out for the support
Of hi. family all he earns Then remember that the
Trades most depressed in our City those OF Shoe
aud Shirt making in which there are not many Eu
ropc,ns engaged, but the competition comes mainly
from The rural sections OF land, where rents
ave nominal, provisions low, and Shoes and Shirts
ecu be made cheaper than in areat City. We do
not see how this is to be remcdied, except by the
giving up, substantially of the prosecution OF these
dcpro ssed branches in Cities
The Express that the tendency of things is
to lower and lower wages-a tendency which We
have long seen aud studied how TO combat. We
believe We have found the remedy in Industrial As
ISOLATION on the Joint Stock basis of Labor Skill
and Capital sketched by Fourier But ready
to consider impsr,ialy any other measure OF relief
that may be suggested asking only that it shall APP
harronize all classes 10y promoting the interests OF
all. his subject we have for years been discuss
inc, on the broadcsl grounds Yet the Express can
talk thus
We conclude with saying, that if the Tribune would
stop agitation of Repeal meetings TO raise rent for
OConnel-its sympathy for Europe IN genera-and de
attention to proper mode Of preserving the
American mechanic from the deadly competition OF re-
Gently imported foreign labor instead o attacking.
dOcs. the employer who must take labor he hnds II
and eel It's products rs others sell them 1t would show
its of that philanthropy Of which claims to have
much while now it all ends in smoke and theory
Our readers know whether have at
tackled the employer unless it be incidentally and
very sparngly, those employers who refuse to pay
the regular rates OF wages to their workmen. Even
these are often the victims of necessity and many
who pay two dollars a week pay all they can, as
truly az those who pay five times as much. A hun
bred times have we declared that the wrong is in
the system--in the established relation of employer
and hireng, and not in the individuals. The shirt,
maker, who pays but dollar a week. is often not
merely just but an actual beneactor to his workers
who can do better with dollar a week than with
it. And our idea of creating a better rea-
| ton between Labor and Capital being all smoke
and theory We have spent money TO promote it 10
the limit -four ability, and shall spend more when.
ever we have it, How ii will END" remains to be
seen long hence.
| tV The Morning Ne'rs has an article on M
ployment In Factories designed to belitte the ben.
cii,s of Manufacturers the place where they are
located 1t argues that Rochester would not be
really benefited by the investment of 81 100000 in
factories within their limits, this amount would
only give employment directly in the Factories to
| 123 persons Neither would this increase the con
sumption of provisions there. because says the
| News Those persons eat now. and will no, eat
more when they are employed in factories'-so ii
Is ali cyphered out, clear mud that Manufactures
are no help TO City or Village. We saspec, that
as ia the OF the farmer whose collese-taugh r
son logically demonstrated that two fowls were
three there will be nobody convinced by this de
| mons,ration-not even a Loco Foco Every on,
| who owns Real Estate in Rochester will consider il