The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1845-12-17

'neh VINO hau opposed the reference of the 49,
iions TO the Judiciary Committee. It enn,sssS SUN
mn. INA. mere was another apprehension ener,,;s
ed, that IRON that committee-abe aud e,,nsJ a'i'
is-emlnenty entitled, as it is, to the eonsIS as
OF the House and the country-wcll acon.inalon
II Is admitted to be, with this subiec,-
would not proceed that would be sa,isacor, ,ePon
gentlemen who opposed the re ference. Her.. !" ie
opposition Here was The secret OF he earrss e ss
sire 10 nave select committee. In other words i,
was inclined to lhink That the movement was M 4.
ginning of new organization Of faction n" t, y,
seen attempts of that kind before; and So "a "aa
was concerned, he never could permit the Cons,I.e
OF the United States to be made the arena !; ain
faction would seek to rear its head or renew IL ~
istence, by creating popular excitement and ~. "a
ton. Let them look back but few years aoS S ta.
did they not then see how celebrated anti.mss0 aa
association sprung up and created exeit,r,au
throughout the whole nation; and as soon !. 4, Is
swelled into little Importance how il had so nsa
to be transferred over to of the great par,s-a
the country
There is another fact which could name ul;.u
has agitated this House and the country mora H..
any other question which has been sg,asd 'i sal
years gone by. II COMES from Massac6usstts ,sI vi
from Ohio. And now we were to have 0no,h..
faction which, when ii had sweled IN 10 m vsa.'
ance, he supposed was to be transferred to ons :,
the great parties which divided the country. VI
Mr.. MCDOWELL rose and wished tie g,n,,
man to be good enough to name the faction wh;oh
he had referred to as coming from Ohio and from
Massachusetts.
Mr.. PAYNE. | will tell the gentleman II !,
the abolition faction. Whether the gentleman b,
longs to il do not know.
Mr.. MCDOWELL was understood to dscla;u
any connexion or any sympathy with that faction
Mr.. PAYNE. Perhaps have done iniustcs Ia
my friend from Ohio
A voice: "Great Injustice
Mr. PAYNE. am told have done the oen,,
man great injustice. | meant nothing unknd IN
the ausion, and if injustice is done the gentleman
| most cheerfuIly withdraw it.
But CONTINUED Mr.. Pr am certainly on.
posed to the getting up Of these factions here; am
opposed to the Congress of the United States beno
the place where these factions are to be encoua,eS
in any form whatever. Under the impression tb,
there may be something of this sort intended rudsr
this proposition it is that | am opposed TO il, "a
am opposed to any other faction in this country.
Mr. GEDDlNGS. | call the gentleman to order
The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Ohio
will state his point of order.
Mr.. GIDDlNGS. The question before II,
House, is to which one of the two committees III,
subject is to be referred. The subject of aboLiop
is not before the House for discussion, nor is lhe
subject of faction in this resolution legilmaeyh.
fore the House. embrace the opportunity 10 call
the gentleman from Alabama to order, because Of
House to which the gentleman belongs as 10 The
discussion of this matter; and object to the gentle
men, IN this irregular manner, Juggling in questions
which they dare not keep open.
Mr.. PAYNE. Am in order,
The SPEAKER. The Chair is under the i'm.
preston that the gentleman from Alabama is wan.
derng rather widely from the question before the
House.
Mr.. PAYNE. Am in order to proceed,
Mr. (YlnDJN(SG No ohiecf N thu c.nl,
mans proceeding, the chair has ruled him out Of
order.
The SPEAKER propounded the question on
granting leave to Mr.. PAYNE to proceed in order
which was decided in the affirmative.
Mr.. PAYNE accordingly resumed the floor.
There are some men whom | think of in discussion
there are others that never know or notice.
Mr.. GIDDINGS. call the gentleman from Ala.
bama to order
The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state his
point of order.
Mr.. GIDDlNGS. My point of order is that
individuals on this floor not proper subject Of
discussion on this motion of reference
Mr.. PAYNE. Does the chair decide me out Of
orderi
The SPEAKER. Not unless the gentleman ia.
tended personality to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr.. PAYNE. My intentions, it is not, | re-
spectfully submit, for the Chair to 60 into. wish
to know whether the Chair decides me GU. of or.
der.
The SPEAKER was understood to declare the
gentleman in order.
Mr. PAYNE resumed. He objected to this me-
mortal or these resolutions, as their object was to
agitate the country in regard to the naturalization
laws; and he thought he saw in them aspr objecing
TO emgrons coming into the country, and to there1
ercising, after compliance with all the requsionsd
the law as it now exists, the right Of suffrage In
asmuch as this was the object Of this reference 10
the select committee-inasmuch as that was the OBJ
ject Of those gentlemen who proposed the reference
he was distinctly opposed to it.
Now, it was contended that this was dangerous
population in our country. And wherefore were
they dangerous ask you if the population Of The
Old World-of those who have suffered under the
tyranny and despotism of the government Of the
Old World--when they come to this land Of free.
dom, cannot draw the contrast; and if they are not
better calculated than any other people that come
here to maintain to vindicate, TO preserve the rights
of the people of this country
But was it proper for US, who had gained 80
much from foreign aid and influence in the many
struggles through which we have passed, now that
we have secured the liberty we enjoy.
Mr.. WOODRUFF rose to point of order
The SPEAKER. The gentleman will slau his
point of order.
Mr.. WOODRUFF. object to the gentemans
proceeding in any other discussion than that strictly
confined to the genteman's question of reference
unless he was permitted to reply.
Mr.. PAYNE. l have the right to give my rea
sons why am opposed to the proposed References
and in giving those reasons will not the widest hi'
tude be allowed'
The SPEAKER. The gentleman will proceed
Mr.. PAYNE resumed. He was asking if it were
right and just in us, who had received so much Tor
eign aid and influence, now that we had secured 70
ourselves the most extended liberty through that
aid and influence, to entertain suspicious eaousles
and heart-burnings towards that very people who
contributed so greatly to the achievement and pres'r,
walton of those Liberties. Go back to the history
the revolutionary struggle. Are you quite sure thai
you would have the privilege of sitting where you
now sit if it had not been for the arms Of France
aiding your own9 Look to the portrait which over
looks this hall, 1.-THE portrait Of Lafayee;] remeln'
Der the services Of that gallant man, and
Mr.. WOODRUFF. | call the gentleman TO or
der, unless have the privilege of reply
Mr.. PAYNE. l wish the chair TO decide inc
question whether am in order or not.
The SPEAKER remarked that under the srid
parliamentary law, the discussions on motions Of REL
erence were confined within strict limits; but under
the practice Of the House for several years past mo-
tons Of reference had been considered to open me
whole merits of the subject The gentleman from
n IA Inn sIA.AE r.