The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1845-10-07


the interest which the public manifested In the pro-
ceedings of this body is evidently slackening
4 MIR. JUPITER HEssEx, who STYLES hmself Professor
Out Of what science he does NOT say) sent his plan for
Of man to the Convention the form of
letter His plan IT, in the first place to have gene raj
spiritual and political revolution over the world in
all lords kings princes and neblss who claim the world
and is inhabitants as their own should fall then these
acres Of land q All men to be Industrious g. All men
to receive good moral education and Those means
He concluded by saying re in favor Of equal rights
equal liberty, and equal justice to all men, Amen.
Mr., RoBEarsoN explained. at consde rable length. ON
his pan which, he said, the best yet offered to the
tended In the of his remarks he gave history
to the convention Of his past experimentation he had
been knocked down and abused By his father to such
mouth and having been interrupted several times by
some Of the members present he said he would put to
the meeting whether they in favor of his contin-
% ssss nsns
The CHAIR being about to submit Mr.. Robsrtsons the.
DRY and propositions to the convention for reception
propositions being laid before the convention
the same course that was taken the Others when
Mr. PEEBLE understanding the Chair decline 50 do
ing but to submit them collectively insisted that they
| should be put separately.
Mr. owEs then put ito the convention to say how he
should put the proposition and the convention decided
his propositions. Mr. Robertsons proposition to form
society was then submitted to the convention and re-
ected and his plan for reform also put and met the
same fate.
Mr. Re9ERrsoN, apparently much mortified at the rsjso
against the decision Of the convention As Il had by prsv
GUS votes accepted plans which were based the
principles as his was.
PEBBLES to the floor that gentleman took the stand He
said he wanted an opportunity to discuss Mr.. Owens
graph that the Owente Institute in John street. Totem
ham Court Road London had been sold out and the in
that gentleman been for sixty years past endea
vorng to reduce his theories for the reformation of man
now-by holding forth prospects which never could be-
realized and by the fascinating of his voice al
lured mechanics and others from their workshops
him discuss theories which be practically car
ried out long human nature IL constituted u.s.
But he has doubt that Mr. Owen believer himself
in his theories for he never who had greater
share Of the milk Of human kindness in his hsarbut
the end Of all his plans and Of those that laid before
this convention Is the distribution Of property equally
and that is mpractcabs Besides Mr. owen has not said
one word about slavery not word about the shrieks
rated from his Children not word about tbs sspS
the lash occasions.
A person rose to a point Of order, He said
The institutions of the South be vilhed (de
cided Kissing andifaint sppause in this manner Were
you ever at the South, sir Continued Kissing Yes,
cannot sit down, sir and listen to caricaturing
thu Southern institutions, who has never been there
in the United States 900 slaves Would not be well
for those Phianrophsts to propose system of taxation
NORM
and certain to be attended with good Besides would
be advantage to the North those slaves who are now
s nd az n when
dtional materials for their support would be drawn from
the North instead Of being clothed in negro CLOTH they
would wear broad cloth which would add to the revenue
of the United States
Mr.. OWEN, we want your plan, you now talking
PEEBLEs--By talking against yours,I sustaining my
own. Well, as you interrupt me 80 much. will come
Se. nj Qid
before it. Mr.. Peebles first proposition was then put
rhss the Of and
Mr. Owen and other members Of this Convention are
just far as they do not interfere with the individual
right Of every man to the enjoyment of what he legally
acquires by his industry and intelligence which must
rank separate from idleness
to the conduct of Attorney General the Governor or
others in their official capacity members Of the demo-
ing the administration of the laws during antrent
trials Lost.
g. Resolved That it will tend to improve the cond.
ton Of society throughout tho world abolish every
species of slavery and negro slavery
in this Unon-provided it can be accomplished as not
to render the white population subject to evils equally
Resolved That ignorance the greatest obstacle to
human happiness-Ca unanimously
MIR. OWEN then addressed the Convention He thinks
when feelings Gained, will be sckno that
this Convention together to ascertain Il there we're any
practical men in this country, who would forward
nous powers Of society for the benefit Of society but he
has not heard any plan Of that character ye It was to
Convention called But the solvency of this ques
ton requires time, attention and knowledge which is
not to be obtained in few days years don't say
in dsparagement OF any plan that has been laid before
the Convention, for there were great many good pn-
cpes laid before the Society and good adop-
ntenoned and did it with the wish Of
ty. have given them fair and full opportunity Of
where they must sink or swim, according to their mer.
or demerit have now task to perform which re-
auires the patience and attention Of the Society mean
causes Of the evils Of society. have only the good Of
yourselves in vcw for have asked any rewards
from either governments or individuals. will present
plan which will be of benefit present and all
ture generations; that is the object in view and
request time and attention tor express and for you
to understand my principles and to do this must 60
systematically to work, and for this object have put
them in small compass theywn admit Of He then
stated statistical authority that for 80 ears crime in
England increased cent in proportion the popu.
the most moral in hs wor s
cent That 1870 millions of pounds sterling were expen
ded in the French wars in the destruction Of life and
property and all he wanted 5000 900 Of dollars to
form model Of society which would happiness
to all mankind In speaking the subject of slavery,
States but he had the slave system in the West In
dies and the system Of white slavery in England
degrading.
On the assembling OF the Convention in the afternoon,
Mr. Owen said that he had been mistaken in stating on
Saturday that Mr.. Roosevelt would be out Of town
Mondays that gentleman had plan to Offer and he Mr
o. would willingly give way to him. He had looked
into 1t and found the only of all which had
piled with the object-to provide definite and practical
remedy.
Mr. RosEvELr then began with outline of his plan In
the course Of his remarks he said that entire change Of
the currency was essential to the welfare of socetya
change founded upon the use of labor notes His plan
would provide for ssfdefence and medicine among the
rest He did not agree with Mr.. 0. in repudiatng war;
he was for when necessary and thought the radicals
Of England wrong in not overthrowing their oppressors
at once and that OConne doing the Irish people
mach injury in not teaching them to strike He did not
agree with Mr.. not because he called Chris,
an for he believed that although he pr.fsssed be-
lief in that he ced up to its letter and spirit or the
children spoken Of in Scripture. Of whom said
he would 60, and did not while the other said he would
not, but went Mr.. Owen was like the last and would
have his reward.
The PRESIDENT said the time for members
to make their remarks upon Mr. Rosevelt's system
Mr.. WOODBURY. and Mr.. MORAY made few observa-
tons, of no great import
Mr.. HAYS enquired whether the plan intended for