The New York herald., 1845-03-28
Mr.. JoRDAS-Does the Court decide that am not to


ATTORNEY GENERAL-Certainly not.
Judge PAnKER-No, at ALL the witness must be address
WIrNEss-I did tell the sheriff when he trying
70 identity the prisoner: don know why did not tell
| him had NO conversation with him about the matter
did not drink any that day have been in town since
they arrested and the sheriff frequently: have
ness since have been subre aaed said to John
3lvernail don't remember to have told nybody was
subp@ think Mr. sousason called up some wv, WINS
irink it don't know whether they knew him or not,
or who pike to him was not introduced to him arther
than that MIR. Wheeler told him was q deputy sheriff
there meeting at Galatin that day. and Dr. was
70 address it know Rockefeller did not tell him
yanked Boughton out OF the carriage
Direct resumtd-The sheriff never said anything TO me
ABOUT this was not at Copake at ALL and
have no knowledge Of that transaction. -
GEORGE SHAVER sworn-I live in this city, and did not
live there on the llth Dec. went out to Copake Flas
tie after ter went from Copase Flats il miles below
toitwo farm places; the sheriff was going to at the Sc
the folks in and wS
guns and pistols and hatches and two men there had
big long carving Knives daughter, which w was ps repr
farm house saw man there who called himself Big
Thunder the first was standing before the hor-
strong, you know and then he brought it down and
said, demand them papers :" did not hear him cock
the pistol but him put his thumb the cock, snd
cock it he was very the sheriff was holding the
horses the sheriff looked around to thought
before: Big Thunder pointed the pistol at him was
| frightened, and thinks "there is something going
the
noise couldn't anything about vote being taken:
he tucked them under here somewhere. Came on from
that to Copske Flats the Sheriff and dined there and
Cr.ss M ensmineS % We went through claveraek and
Smokey Hollow to Copake; did not discover that the
sheriff little frightened when he got over the manor
line didn't feel scared at ell; but when saw Big Thun
der oh (much laughte) when saw the carving knife it
made feel as il things were not right nor going on
right; know what sword is and carving knife too;
guns there, know ana pistols, you know
Mr.. JoRDAs.-I don'sknow anything about it, Qaughter)
the sheriff acted as thought he always did until
(Attorney GeneralhoId on now) hold on he was
Flats; he looked as he aiwss did, OIdyou four
times, and III tell you no more; (waimly the fra
got there with fifteen feet Of him; his side was
towards me, and in INIT Of Big Thundsr Little Thunder
s h
not say how long he held there's after Big Thunder de-
Ss m escrs
him point at the Sheriff THE nauets yet decision
OF this witness his peculiar expressions and expressive
JACOB TRAvER, sworn Il was at Smokey Hollow on
the 18th Deeember got there about two o'clock:
shen got in sight saw disguised men drove up to
eud of them and went to the tavern: got the in
te'sence that young man was killed there: before
Seug tn time united my horses and drove up
when some fifteen or twenty di gused men csme out on
The plaza OF hem spoke TO the audience and said
about taree quarters Of hour there would be ad
jress made ny VI Eorghton: did not know who said
the different claim. Of the sndords: he said be would
speak Of the Livnestons Smiths andArmsirong's claims
been informed that accident happened here TO
day. that young man was hurt, but whatever Il was that
was not from them for they had nor Gene for tue pur
chief would render assistance procure medical aid or if
no is dead pay expenses they then pretty retired
10 said, "in reply to that will say that we were
informed that The sheriff come here to arrest Big
and Little Thunder and we came armed to protect
persons y they then went into the and
more of them until Dr.. Boughton out to speak.
dress but his boots have been shoemaker formerly
heard DR.. speak about these land claims and titles,
expressions and there was similarity in their speeches
certain phrases such as the frequent OF the word
consequently Z in the manner olh: standnE and move
then the other between the bannisrs Of the piazza
Dr. @ out 'oD the onsr
that he'd got the other mans boots there was
half sofed rights and efs Of kip calf skim found just
such pair Dr. B. here, when was asked TO go end
my mind at the time that persons
positively any thing could not positively swear to-
have had no occasion to alter my mind: have not al
tered II.
Cross eramned-Half soled boots not rare things
neither kip or stout calf skins the shape Of the boots
peculiar: nothing than what would be about
any pair half socd there nothing else by which to
Judge ofhe but what have stated had heard there
such character Big Thunder some whore in the
county, had heard of Dr. B. too had heard he lectu
ring and delivering speeches. and that the Sheriff. pa
pressed mine that it Big Thunder: had i'm
preston about before went to Smokey Hollow was
about twenty from Big Thunder when he was the
piazza and spoke could form my judgment about pair
Of boots at that distances think shoemaker can tell
pendent Of the boots. should have judged was Big
ihunder.
AUGUSTINE BULLOCK, sworn.-I was at Smokey Hol-
low the 18th December and heard DR. Boughon speak:
he said. the Renssalaers, Livingstons, Armstrong;
Carkes and Kings and others, need not attempt fright
Thunder with ten Of warriors would defy the strong
at they would bring that they would not lay
down the tomahawk bury the scalping knife until
their wrong were redressed.
Cross .1aminedI did not stay till the last part of his
speechths about the middle took notes of the
speech OF their leases he thought oppressive
aad the rents and regulations he did lot like higher
onxS hey iS %
address and petition the Legislature to investigate the
matter did not see the man who came out IN Disguise
these suits brought in the county when Mr. Living
could jingle $1,000 into theiawyers pockets and the
M. JoRDAr-That was not the
WIrrEss.-Wel you spoke Of technical points and |
Mr JoRDAr--And you supposed that to be technical
point did you l-Naughter)
Mr.. JoRDAx-Thats all |
Direct resumed Il don't know that he advised the
JOHN HARDIcx-l was stCopake on the 18th December:
in the carriage with Dr. Boughton and the Sheriff
an5 be m IN sss ne s hda
pointed his pistol at him Mr. B. said it was
than any person would have done under similar circun
stances the sheriff told him 1t was he thought bold
move ticking his papers from him: Dr. repled know,
am bold men.
Cro.serawinsd-I the outside Of the carriage:
II covered and think the cnrtsn was down this
occurred Smokey Hsow they spoke londer at ea's
time, were somewhat excited, that's how hedrd y
did hear deny he took his papers avsy from MN
Colonel Root, think, was inside.
The Court here took recess until : O'Clock
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WEATHER IN CArApA.-The weather at Quebec
il mild and seasonablc. The thermometer, at
o'clock this morning stood at "a deg the wind wester-
w. There is slight thaw and but little ice in the river
< steamboat arrived AZ Kingston from Toronto. on
The Isth and the navigation open ~ far down a. Pres
cott.-- Quebec Mercury Maych20
-Four. ATTEMPT AT MURDER.-A most cowardly
and foul attempt made, last evening, about
nns o'clock the Northern Liberties, to murder man
nrmad Henry Zs appears that Zell had been spend