The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1845-12-18

matter had at length passed from his hands, and II
was now thrown upon the Legislative department.
The negotiations had come 10 point-to
a stand-they were broken off-they were stopped.
We can't recede-we must stand up Tor our rights.
In regard of territory, the President has recon-
mended all proper measures ior tne support OF our
claims consistent with treaty obligations. Mr.
Niles then adverie' 10 the fact OF the English go
vernment having extended It's Judicial jurisdiction
over its citizens in Oregon. We were called upon
10 do the same IN behalf OF our citizens. The pro-
visions of Joint occupation were not adapted to
settled and civilized country nor intended to be. II
was necessary TO have but one government over
the same people. With this view, the President had
recommended the twelve months notice, with
view to exclusive jurisdiction over our portion OF
the territory. This was peace movement-t was
necessary for peace-he advocated these resolutions
tor the sake OF peace Recurring to the expedlency
of these resolutions, he said that as war might fol.
low as II was within the range OF probabilities, the
propositions here submitted were absolutely required
OF the Senate. But he believed there would be
upon as the dividing line. That il negotiations
were renewed, Great Britain would reconsider her
refusal, reverse H. and tall back upon The 4ytn ds-
gree. She would do so when she found that she
could bully us out OF no more Mr. Niles dlsc'aiin,
ed the apprehension that war; if il did come, would
result from the preciptancy OF the proceedings OF
this body and its operate branch OF me national
legislature Nothing OF the sort. In renewing me
relative prowess OF England and the United States,
the learned Senator thought II the English were
bold brave, and courageous nation, II was fair to
conclude that might be found so in an equal de
gree descended we were from the same stock,
&c Mr. Niles, IN conclusion, reiterated his deter
mination to vote for the re solutions.
Mr.. CRrrENDEN next followed in the discussion.
He saw IN the resolutions themselves nothing OBJ
ectionable, and he should vote tor them. The
marks of the honorable Senator, however, who had
introduced these resolutions, gave to them peculiar
sIgnficancy. Mr.. Crittenden then reviewed the re-
marks of Gen. Cass, of yesterday, that we must give
the twelve months notice, and that If Great Britain
said that il this were so, we had better, at once
employ ourselves TO put on the whole harness OF
war. He read from the reported speech of General
Cass the passage upon this point, and asked of the
dsting ulshed Senator il this was to be understood
a. his solemn opinion
Gen, CAss after some general explanation, said,
that in his own private opinion, war was almost in
evitable.
Mr.. CRIrTENpEN desired more explicit under
standing OF this branch of the Senator's remarks as
delivered IN the Senate.
Gen. CAss replied, that il we gave the twelve
months notice, and that it. at the expiration of that
period Great Britain persisted In her claim to the
whole OF the territory, war was inevitable.
Mr.. CRlTTEEDEN said, that this was substantial
reraction OF the Senator's warlike opinions of yes
terday.
Gen. CAss said that lie did not retract a siuole
word that he had said yesterday.
Mr.. CRlTrENDEN was totally at a loss TO reconcile
the remarks OF yesterday with the explanation of to-
Gen CAss further explained
Mr.. CRrrTENDEN further commented upon the
contingencies OF war, and said, that he had much
preferred the explanation OF to-day to the remarks OF
yesterday. y built up the contingency OF war upon
many conditions and provocations, that il almost
dlsslPated 1t entirely. Mr. G.. had but one object in
his remarks and that was TO soften the alarm which
the Senator's remarks of yesterday may have ex-
cited lie should vote for the resolutions, however,
as he feared not that their adoption would hasten
the contingency of the war. Mr.. Crittenden, as az
fordng time for reflection suggested two years no.
tee instead OF one.
Gen CAss further defined his position, as as
sumed in his remarks Of yesterday
Mr.. WEBSTER here arose, and all eyes and ears
were bent forward to see and hear him. He began
with his usual GOODNESS. deliberatlveness thoughtful
ness, and quiet self-conidence so characteristic OF
the man. Although these resolutions did not charge
the committees referred 10 with any extraordinary
inquiries, yet he regretted their Introduction now,
and theeremarks OF the Senator from Michigan, as
calculated 10 produce unnecessary alarm. Every I'M
necessary alarm ABOUT the state OF the public peace,
was great evil and is severely felt upon the bust
ness Of the country. There were two ways in which
d government might proceed-we may excite great |
alarm without any preparation, and we may proceed |
IN that quiet and efficient way OF inquiry upon the ma
iioual detences which would attain the end desired
without disturbing the public tranquility. Mr. Web
ster was OF the oplnlonhat the President did not an
tcinate war-that the tone of his message did not |
exhibit that he apprehended any serious danger TO
the peace OF the country, &c Mr. Webster required
TO the losses which would affect our commerce and
our sea-soard, from war with England, and was far
seriously to be apprehended
Message from the President by Mr.. j. Knox
w aker, his Private Secretary
Mr.. SEWER was astonished that nothing could be
.rought forward upon this floor in regard to Ore
gon. but that II met invariably the opposon of the
other side. He repudiated all this chop-ogic about
silence, and dong the thing quietly, &C. But if we
make Il movement OF mere inquiry about Oregon.
we are told to keep stI or there Willie war-that
the steamers OF Great Britain will ravage our coast.
and their crews steal our sucking pigs; while the
Senator from Massachusetts talks of danger TO COM
merce, and all about strip of barren country on tn,
coast OF the Pacific This was all very well. Ii was
perhaps, small business to 90 to war about a few
boxes Of tea or in defence othe rights of few scores
OF ragamuiiins OF sailors. But Mr. Sewer was not dis
posed 10 act so ltlily in this matter or cover
away TO the bullying OF Great Britain. Her bullying
was the whole secret OF her powerit was by bully
ing that she had got the nations Of Europe under her
thumb. Just like some of our Court House bulles
IN the Wesi--they contrlve to lick some poor fellow,
and then every fellow In the county considers them
DULLES, and not to be treated with contempt. But
the Senator from Massachusetts, advises us TO "lay
low and keep dark" Mr. Webster here explained
what ne had sald.l Mr. Sewer pursued his argu-
ment in tone OF patriotic defiance, to the end, and
was disposed, so far from being silent, TO talk TO
Great Britain little louder than any body else.
Mr. bERRiEN respectfully dissented, as one Of the
representatives OF the people on this floor, from the
remarks OF the Senator from Arkansas. Mr. b. re-
GREETED that the regular order OF proceedings had
been anticipated by these resolutions lie assumed
mat negotiations were not at end, from the evil
dence furnished IN Mr.. Buchanan's final letter to
Mr.. Pakenham. He thought that if we should
leave this matter OF twelve months notice alone.
Great Britain herself would give it, and dissolve,
accordingly, the Joint occupancy OF the whole of
Oregon; which ne. thought would be preferable to
our giving the notice. The dispute which had ex-
isied Tor thirty years upon this question: was not in
fact dispute for the territory but for the nayIga
ton OF the Columbia and if two nations, so init
mateiy associated as the United States and Great
IN. n 90 obi
out having first exhausted all means Of an amlcabIe
adjustment, they would deserve the execraons of
all posterity, &c.
Mr.; ALLEN, with almost unwonted energy. op-
posed the recommendations from the other side. TO
go on quietly, silently, &c, in the inquiries proposed
tarough me resolutions OF the Senator from Mich-
gan, lie defended the resolutions and the speech
OF the mover upon them in all its parts, notwith
standing The objections and complaints uttered
against II to-day. From some general observations
upon the exigency OF the times-the character Of the
condition OF the public mnd--the
proprley OF apubllc discussion, Mr.. Allen proceeded
a he afa off IL.