The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1845-12-09

The question recurring On he originai 'eSoiu
ion, nnpu IouNSoN remarked that h,
nronoscd 10 the honorable gentleman Mr.
saap,sII certain questions, Which he had failed &c
e'sr He supposed that the gentleman's only
ans nae N make a speech and the speech being
VA he had now Withdrawn IT,
m,%J,' STEWART would renew the amendment
q ne gentleman wished 10 make a speech.
W, ANDREW JOHNSON. have no wish
Ike a speech; but did wish the gentleman 10
Ocarm this House and the country how II was, ~,
go alered, the protective tariff wac the cause OF
=. nrcsen, reduction of prices, that the prices OF
Ss articles had run down correspondingly with the
~. of those on which tax was lald'
P'Mr STEWART denied that the prices free ar
- had run down in the same ratio instancing the
Us Of labor as one article not thus reduced.
NJ ANDREW JOHNSON continued. Anoth-
question which he wished to repeat to the gentle
,n was. whether he was IN favor, after sufficient
aorn, Of revenue had been collected by the gov.
o,eni 10 defray its expenses, of levying certain
I'm, for projections sakes That was the ques-
.,oo he proposed TO the gentlefhan
NJ STEWART replied that he did not wish to
.Iss, one cent more by tariff than was necessary
-, The expenditures OF the government. We had
W. snouoh at present. The Secretary of the Treas
ny" "pv tod them that there would be a deficit Of
.aOOO 600 for the present year; and yet he proposed
= reduce the tariff TO increase the revenue! Wheth-
,,he revenue was too much or too little, the cry
'r,s siIl the same: "reduce the tariff-reduce the
tariff"
Is;a, to get the gentleman from Pennsylvania up
- answer a question. The question he had pro-
',nnded TO him was was he in favor Of laying so
r'nrh for protection after the wants Of the govern
n,nt were amply satisfied and he wanted to push
Ls inquiry little further, and ask is there any
a. ...f
ton Of the community, when il is not required by
%s wants of the government, in order to build up
,notber norton of the community.
MIR STEWART. There never was protective
h,y which taxed individuals one cent The object
md effect of protective duty to reduce prices.
Lei The gentleman put his finger on article the
mice of which had been increased under protec-
i've tariff.
Mr.. JOHNSON. dislike very much to see the
gentleman from Pennsylvania thrown into such a
noe. His contortions and violent gesticulations
we're certainly very omlnous. His (Mr. J;'s( OBJ
iec in propounding the question, was to elicit In
formation Tor the public--to make an issue fairly
b,fore the country and the House, that they could
distinctly understand But it was impossible to
re, the gentleman up TO fair issue on the question
He wanted 10 know what the gentleman meant by
pro,econ He said this protective policy meant
he reduction Of prices. Was that what the gen.
ueman wanted--by protection, to reduce the prices
Of manufactures, Did the gentleman wish to be SO
understood by his constituents, Did he wish his
constituents to understand that by keeping up the
Tar f. he wished to reduce the prices Of their man.
uhc,ures and sales for the countryi
Mr. STEWART would assert that the effect of
HE protective duties had ultimately been to reduce
The price Of the articles protected. On the other
hand, he would now call upon the gentleman to men,
ion any articles of increased price, through the OPP
.aon of the duty, and bring proof of the same
He was quite ready to make the issue Of fact, as
stated.
Mr.: JOHNSON thought that they did not under
sand accurately the meaning of the word protection.
What he (Mr. J.) understood by it was, by
pro sciing branch Of industry, TO procure high
!, prices for the articles produced by those engaged
in i than they had before
Mr. STEWART No, sir; no sir.
Mr. JOHNSON would again ask the gentleman,
what did protection mean, if not to enable the man
ufctuers of the country to realize greater prices
thpn beforti He cared not what branch Of industry
was prot. cted; the object to enable the manu-
hclurer TO obtain greater prices than before.
Mr.. G. s. HOUSTON arose and said he wanted
little more order to be observed on this subject.
There was great deal sad and if such was to con-
unue he wanted 10 have a part IN Il.
Mr.. JOHNSON was sorry the gentleman was
10 sensitive The statement he had made relative
for It's object to draw portion Of the accumulated
capital from one branch Of industry for the profit of
another If the gentleman Mr.. s meant what he
said the people Of Pea lvaDia did not understand
it. He (Mr. ~ had an attachment for that great
State; and he thought il Pennsylvania was in favor
ofpro,ection, she would send individual to that
House to give a very different meaning to the word
from what they heard that day from the gentleman
which was, that by the operation Of the tariff she
realized prices for portion of her articles that she
could not obtain without it. That was the conclu-
Gon from the premises laid down by him. How
was Pennsylvania to he beneftted' On every case
in which reduction was made, they saw corre-
spondlng decline in the price of articles free of duty,
What was the causel He did not think it neces-
nry to 60 into that; IT was familiar to them ALL and
therefore he would decline going into details to
prove what was tho cause of reduction in the
prices Of many imported articles.
Mr.. STEWART interrupted the Speaker to ask
one question. He wished the gentleman to inform
him, had agricultural products declined in price in
The same ratio that manufactures had Had the wages
ofhbor been reduced in the same ratio the price
Of domestic goodss II was machinery and skill
which reduced their prices. He would ask, were not
The prices OF articles of domestic manufacture brought
down by the operation of the present tariff out of
oil proportion to the reduction in wagesi
Mr. JOHNSON confessed that the gentleman had
anost curious way of discussing the question; first,
proposed his question and then answered it himself
"a mode by which he (Mr. J.) was entirely excus-
Cd from doing SO. Whatever the gentleman might
ay on that occasion, when the question Of protec-
ion was laid before the intelligent yeomanry Of that
Slate, they would give their sanction to rails
ing money under the plea of protection, except what
was required for the wants of government. He be-
hesed the great mass of the people Of Pennsylva-
MA thought sufficient amount of revenue to defray
The expenses of the country ought to be the meas-
u!eof the duties imposed. They wanted stable
pan they were tired Of changes. They were ready
10 make the revenue standard, and give protection
% that extent, but no more. The great State Of
pennsylvania was blessed more than any other in
he Union by her superabundance of coal
o. which she contained more in the bosom of
her mountains than Vulcan and all his forces
could work out to the end of creation. Laughter.
ny her vast beds Of iron-by an inexhaust-
Ole waer-power-and by fertile SOIL she
could protect herself, and was ready to be con-
TENT with enough to satisfy her wants. The gen.
ueman had, in the course of his speech, made
some strange illustrations, and used some argu-
mehts remarkable for their incongruity and in
consistency. He had attempted to illustrate what
protection did. On that subject he Mr.. J.) wish
"a 10 make one or two remarks. He spoke Of
protection, and was asked distinctly what he meant
"hat did he mean To come at that, they wanted
v nave Jess talk about little communities Of me-,
"ahcs. For the sake of Illustration, he would