New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1845-09-29
I" PhonORraphy,....> No. VIII.
Nfw.YoRK. September %, IL


NEw.ioRK, September % lSi5.
HORACE GREELEY, ESQ DER Sh--iIaving perused,
with great pleasure Mr. Augustus i. Boye's communi-
cation in the Tribune Of yesterday cath inst) ON the
subject Of Photography beg leave 10 answer directly
to the gehemans very satisfactory letter must hrsI
however Mr. Editor express 10 you my grateful ac-
acknowledgements for the kindness with which you have
afforded my friend II. w. opportunity 10 present this
question before the public and for the serious, and at
the same time impartial attention which you have the
kindness TO bestow upon this important topic
MY intention is not 70 discuss the inconsistency Oh
some hasy remarks in Mr. Boyles reply 10 my friend
H. w q propositions to submit the merits OF our respect
i've systems TO the discussion OF scientific congress
will not ask how possibly be that Mr. Boyle should
emphaticaly acknowledge that H. w. exhibits ron.
siderable acquaintance with the subject, IN theory and
declare at the time and in the same sentence thHt
But simple Justice to the cause in which he (Mr ~ IL
SO deeply Interested compels him TO say that H. w s
practical knotkd9e (o the same subec Is TOO limited 10
sfify an opinioa O ON Mr. Pitmans systsn 10 quail
fv HIM % TO argue its merits Mr. Boyle judges
of H. We theoretical qualifications from wha, he has
seen read in the mastery letters when were pup
bshrd ON the subject But how II WIS PRACTICAL kaop'
IdQe (admirg that his brOadside arguments do not
evince particle of it) should be SO well known OF Mr.
Boyle be peremporily denfd by hun, exceeds my
conception since he does even know, as yet VINO IS
II w and therefore, how can he assure that ii. w.
speaks Of Mr.. Pitmans system without knowing II Prdc-
ncGIiy ~
Ills no less a mystery 10 me to conceive how H. w.
could have exhibited such considerable acquaintance
with the subject and be- notwithstanding. limited
in his "pracfical kaordee Of subject which nothing
else in practice but the art OF forming graphic charsc'
ers incomparaby simpler, and easier than even the
simplest kind of caigraphic writing according 10 Mr.
Pman's own expressions and which Mr.. Boyle himself
asserts he can teach to thousands at the same time in
the short space of a few hours II. in H. VS. demon
STATIONS had been question of the superiority OF
steam engine country stage instead Oh d" Phono-
graphy" Photography, the Inconsistency oil me
remarks alluded to would not be less remarkable Tor,
previous TO asserting that w incapable OF speak
ing of the mperfections OF country stage unless ne
could practically drive the il ought 10 be proved by
other arguments thsA perempory denial that he Is IN
fact incapable Of so doing although he could conquer
before the winds. Il fast flying steam engine
But have said that my intention Is not TO discuss Mr.
Boyles othe rwe frank and satisfactory communication
and must therefore avoid falling INTO the inquire
called .%rotTmtssion
Nv principal object Mr.. Editor is simply to scknowl
edge my qualification Mr. Boyle TOR his unbiased and
broad acccpa,on of the propositions set forth in his let
ter No by my obligng friend H. w. mean To say
that of taking equal number OF voluntary students
uHac4adaed with either system Snd by Their respective
Irohcicnces within given time before the Chrome
graphic Investigating Commttee-besdes the other tests
which will be proposed by both parties on the respective
merits and qualities Of the two systems AZ you rightly
Inferred in your editorial remarks OF Monday last Mr.
Editor do cordially agree this additional propO
son of Mr. Boyle, with however. al important medlh
cation which MIR B. cannot refuse, without scknowlcde
.aoa in the learning OF Mr. Ptmsns system Mr.. Boyle
proposes To teach the systems during OF from
Two 10 three weeks and one hour day ONk WEEK,
as he slightly suggests. would unquestionaby be more
emphatic test this important point. Al all events II re-
oures not even half this time TO an intelligent and atten
tive student possess himself with the perfect KNOW
edge all the and rules of the new system and not
over sir days write II with at least MY per cent more
rapidly CONCESSION snd ie9iby than Mr.. Piimsns sys
tenn Yet ifMr Boyle should insist upon iro weeks, q
could never to hree) will not object TO that
term.
have selected as the expostor of my system gentle
man of this City known for his facility in addressing pub
lie assemblies scientific subjects. snd gwen MN u
power attend with the advice OF h w 70 the prehn
mary arrangements and conditions on which TINS debate
shall be conducted and have. ty private letter. request
ed Messrs Andrews and Boyle To correspond WIN MIN
on this subject Since the gentlemen are as am hsPpy
10 learn the only accredited representatives oil MI f-
man in this country. and whose house alone (na'u'
raly) devoyes the defence Of Mr.. Piimans system.
hope they will persist in their avowei determination oil
attending personally to this important examination for
heartily desire that none but The abesf of Mr. Pitman
adopts should be the parties holding the door IN his be-
half and in my opinion can do nun more hohof
and Justice than Messrs. Andrews yle
So soon as the articles enumerating the various topics 10
be discussed and decided upon IN this ta SHAH nave
been definitely settled, and the locality dhe tabernacle
If pnssbe) secured for the occasion. due notice oi me
preliminary proceedings will be gwen through the pa
ers 10 all the friends of intellectual improvement by an
invitation TO unite ia NewNork ON gwen Day ana ioih
"A PuoNoGsAPHIc CONVENTION for the purposes already
mentioned and on the basis winch VIII DC sihl'",
The friends OF Photography in particular and Of pro
cress generally are therefore, respectfully requested 10
watch tesc movements and make their preparations TO
attend the Convention in sgreat number as may help
to throw the greater light this truly important ana
cmineniy useful subject and also that may be seucd
once for all the full sscton not OF individuals merely
hui of the country large since is unquesnonaoy ces
tined ere long 10 interest every IN the land who taxes
an interest in public education and the development OF
The resources OF the human intellect by the ror OF Ola
errors for the light Of immortal truth as MI boyie
very correctly expresses himself though not altogether
in the correct place ess, according to my actual I'M
pressons. -.
In the meantime Mr. Editor, please accept the Desires
meets of von~ ob,aent servant J.BF.
p S-Haying already been asked IN several yer! Ainu
letters which have received since H. VS. NH commu-
nca,ion was published why being the author oil sueh
a valuable system OF Photography do not make my
name publicly known will simply state the only rea'
son which can give for this raIicence do not kno"
Il am blessed with enemies il my friends are nu
merous enough that Of them might chance TO be
elected by the Convention in the investing committee
Desiring therefore avoid any species of influence snc
abiding 10 counses which think wise and sound have
decided TO With mold my from public noiorety that
my system although the fruit Of many years OF patient
labor may Ia. IN this from the weight Of rs
nssuihcsnce OF imperectons. or uumph-u tits nj all
destined to Iiump h-uPon tho sole weight OF us own
merits . -
is with the hope that this explanation may be kindly
accepted and appreciated by those whom II Is address
ed tbs. shall persist in declining 10 sign any communi
cation ON this subject otherwise than with my Initials
and 10 preserve my name IN It's present obscurity uh
nlter the tr il over whether my advantage OF not
a'''' ''0 ' " JBF.