The New York herald., 1845-03-27

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Trial OF "Big Thunder" the .Anti-Renter,
mt Hudson.
Court OF Oyer and Tcrmlner.
HspsoN, Tuesday, March IS, ls45.
Judge Parker and the County Judges took their seats at
halt past eight this morning. and in few minute pro-
ceeded with the business The attendance thin at
the commencement, but the court room became crowded
| in few hours.
| H. C. MrLLERs examination contnued.-I have those
dresses with that found (Mr M. here opened bum
and several masks of black yellow and red calico,
think the mask worn by Big Thunder, at Copake was Of
Mr Miller here produced two pistols and sword, 81
curved shape, and apparently good cutting weapon
The coat prisoner has on took with these arms it
were found With Beldng Se articles here shown s
sisted Of bullet mouds and bullets, powder horn three
both of these large pistols in the possession Of Big
Thunder at Copske Beding went by the name Of Little
Thunder at Copake-l there was there called
Little Thunder don't know who he was but that is my
impression. :, ,,,,
Ter is mon Of very vivid Imagination and well
imagine Belding as another as Big Thunder If Mr. Mil
Ter su, can give for his belief he
The CoURr-In question OF identity, Mr. Jordan, il
must be matter of belief You come at this
Mr.. JoRpAN-I submit that they have right to give
naked abstract opinion; they must show they have
i
| ACerRr-Let them put the question, which is-was
there man there called Little Thunder ana who was
| Little Thunder7
Mr. JoRDAN-I object to it, sir, altogether. They are
going to ask him who Little Thunder was, and he will
give his as to who he believed him; let him
| swer the question that is put.
The ArToRNEY GrNEnIL-we are losing great deal
| Of time
CouRr.-I know are; there is occasion, Mr.. At
torney General to argue the part Of the people We
decide improper to ask him what his impression is
opinion is another matter and proper as subject Of
quiry.
shows he had the ordinary means either from his voice
| his figure, or his gait, to recognize him.
/ DDTRIcT ArToRNEY.-Who was Little Thunder at Co.
pake1
the gait and size Of the man, and his movements general
y he has been in jail since the 18th day of December
see him G s nee had % some
ber-eo Mr. Jof1Sn) we had been examined; Boughton,
that day and Wheeler sent word they wanted to see
then put Wheeler into ne cell and left and went back
after m, tea to put Wheeler into another CELL which had
been done Boughton asked come in and sit dow
which believe did; believe Boughton asked next what
kind of man Henry W. Livingston was; think lspoke
hn o. the smokey Hollow and Copaks meeting both
told him what thought would be the consequence of it;
did not suggest to him that he ought
told him before that would assist him to get BAIL said
think to him and Wheeler and Beding altogether that
they would get into the carriage and come with me-
would help to get them bail; don't think told Bougon
hat would become his bail at that any other time
/ Mr. JORDAN.-N0W,
on your way from the jail to the court room that he
would be convicted and that the only way for him
| 10 turn evidence confess
| WITNESS SIS that the whole of the question
Mr.. JoRpAN.-Wait moment sir; or any thing 10 that
| purpose
WIrNEm-No, sir; have no knowledge Of any such
conversation with him.
The CouRr here told the counsel for the prosecution
Who had made an observation that all this examination
addressed to the Court purpose Of ascertain
| ing the admissibilty OF certain evidence.
Examination restmed-John J. Rossman is the Jailer;
t6o~r ,Antkn
ing confinement
Mr. JoRDAN.-Now sir, propose to call John J. Ross
| man.
CouRr For the purpose of finding out il any induce
| ment has been held out to obtain confession 7
/ Mr.. JoRpAN.-Yes, sir.
CouRrCall John j. Rossman; it is quite proper to en-
qure whether there nducement held out TO make
| he prisoner confess to the sheriff.
JOHN RossMAN sworn.I had some conversation with
the prisoner when in Jail about this matter; don't think
told him what course best to take in relation to IT.
ion't know who presents there was a bey with him
sometimes; don$ think told him about his guilt not
knowing any thing about Il
/ Mr. JoRDAN-I have sent for another witness, sir.
propose to show that the Sheriff told him that his only
| salvation was to confess.
CouRT-Very well If that took place before the 10th
In the interval before the arrival of the expected wit
ness the Attorney General asked the Sheriff to put on
CouRr-I suggest the Attorney General is promoting a
violation of the statute Laughterl
"a good deal Of amusement caused by the small in
| erlude Of masking the Sherif)
The witness not having arrived the evidence pro-
ceeded with
Examination ofH c. MILLER resumed-In my CONVEX
sation with Boughtcn he said Little 1hunder wasinot
employed at Copake had any Of the associations
ployed promised to pay him; he told me Beding was
formerly from Herkmer CO., and that he lately lived in
the town Of Alps, in Rensselaer county he said he
could do in putting down the anti renters aay
the excitement than any other he admitted to
20 at liberty; he said he could do at pacying the
people and quite strong that ponthe said Beldng
was music man. and played the fiddle; asked him If
thought was the case from the implements Of gambling
which found those were the apprisals l made the
warrants on the property of Alb J. Miller and stephen
| Decker.
NCross sraned- don't recolect that Boughton told me
he had always advised the anti renters not to arm dis
guise think is likely that ne did SOL he frequently
spoke the subect he has told that he sent
by the people to deliver lecture antrentism think
qua not tell me that he was :esnt for the anti & ssnsers
Smith A. Boughton, which was submitted in evidence by
prosecution and read from some particulars of an
one item was $50 for procuring counsel Tor the assoca
tion several others for travelling expenses and other
moneys expended in the cource Of his anrent abors
CrosSeraminafon resumed-I had process to arrest
Smith A. Bsughton when went and took him at Smokey
Hsllow; this was seven days after the Copake meeting
don't recoect whether he asked what authority
arrested him; had not that know Of entered any com
plant against him from the llth to the lsth Wheeler
was standing with him when arrested him, and John
Waldorph Mr. Hannibal and Mr.. Sedgewiok, was in the
room; there quite number there, but don't know
that can any Others don't recolect that he
askeu Wndt MIN Wnht
particularly there was something said about my arrest
ing him by virtue Of my office alone but don't recolec
distinctly DOM rscosct Of his telling me me that he
my rghto arrest him; Mr. Monnel, and the District At
torney and Col Root went from here TO Smokey Hollow
Nobody and told me that Boughton was in the upper
room, before went up; there was no disguised persons
there that saw; there 10 or 20 in the roomabout
dozen were strangers; don't know where they were
from; no bundles baggage in their hands, do not
| know how many Of them might have teen dressed
| as Indians; this was the same night the acci-
L liant Al tkoro uuoo lioh In L
| had heard Of the shooting Of the boy before
left Hudson; don't know that any bedy proposed going
out there beside myself told Mr. Munnell was going
out and he said he would 90 with so did the District
Attorneys went out to what was going or, and who
there and to arrest Big Thunder found him there
for his trestment towards me at Copske and Ancrem
the hsndbili At smoky Hollow on the 10th day OF
December 10 the effect that Smith A. Houshtsn would