The New York herald., 1845-03-30
NEW YORK. SUNDAY MORNING. MARCH 3O 1916

brought OUT saw the Sheriff and Big Thunder drink;
the chief asked the Sheriff drink the Sheriff said af
ho wever viii accommodate YOU and drink with you'
then l led the glass and said the sheriff"
put the glass down. and the sheriff toek up the glass
aud poured some in, and said, your heah" the Sheriff
hid smiling look with him; he very good natured,
at any rate but did net laugh loud
the people expected be there's went in
James went with me; one disguised man got in on
to my knowledge in the wagon; my Peter
at the Flss he dressed like me o. any other man
saw him three or four time: that day dent believe saw
him in disguise that day have Indian dresses in my
house, can't tell when did belong to an anti rent asso
citation; want to tell how, and won't answer any other
wsy last fall some time before this aalr
it was not large q meeting we had tive or
three days before This one; disguised persons at
for what don't know, even the Judge never told me;
want to explain that don't know what the JUICE called
it. he said was somsthing about the antrent assocs.
tons; stood at the outside Of the ring of nstives"
think there 300 natives around; was in Court yes
erdy and heard the attempts to prove this
mentioned first to my neighbors, to Philip Johnson
have mentioned it almost every day since il happened
the Sheriff came and sad he hada warrant my
fo be- did nc
keep out OF the way of the Sheriff.
The Court here said that the only object of this minute
ness of examination, could be to show feeling which
was already apparent from the fact of his being arrested
and warrant for his son.
Mr.. JoRDAr-t would leave the impression that his
son fed from the Sheriff, if he be stopped here.
THE CouRT There is no reason to think
WTNEss.-I have spoken to MIR. Waddell of this
versaon withFhe Sheriff, also 10 j. A. Rockefeller and
John Bush; told Mr. storms Of it.
papers were burned. and saw Dr. there about three
o'clock; had seen him two or three times before;
not close enough to the burning of the images
carried I'M after the papers taken in
ton with DR.. at J. A. Ban's; saw who styled
himself Big Thunder in the morning. and when the pa
pers burnt; to me he looked larger than DR. B.:
when he delivered his address in the ring he stood
erect than at other times when he spoke twice before
Bains
Crssesamined-I got there in he morning at O'Clock;
did 60 to Vosburgh's Deckor's the Sheriff
i'll the riDg part OF the time could not hear the NJ
wind srong did not hear what said when they
Thunder order in heard him say that the Sheriff was
him. saw the Sheriff talking to Dorchester and Walter
Shaver, the deputy sheriff; was not enough to
he said any thing half hour after the pal
weret burned, that DR.. B. the first time after; did
at once fdont to Big Thunder Dr. B. or
nct Il he had taken Oh the mask may be would known
Direct Resumed-I called Dr. Boughton that evening
to dress wound of Mr.. Reuben Miller's man; heard
some of the speech of Big Thunder in the rng could
relate it, could not tell that heard the voice before; be-
fore he went in heard him that the Sheriff of Co
lumbia might be armed he wanted to get six who
would dodge at the flash Of powder to in with him
to the Sheriff; believe there vounts er
cd the substance OF what he said that he going
the man called Little Thunder was one of them
pCALvIN WILLIAMS recalled present converse
tionlbetween j. A. Rockefeller and J. Bush not far
from John 0aul's in Hudson; there something said
BY Bush to the effect that they might well let him 60
home for he knew nothing about the matter; think
it he said; Bush walking along with the District
Attorneys can't tell any thing about what took place.
Cr0ss erdmned-I took to be that Bush applied to be
discharged as witness
DAVID VAN DEBoE sworn-I have been acquainted with
Dr. Boqshson tour or five years believe So first ct his
from Mr. Bailey, his fatherinlaw; my business often
brought up there; have said at his house three
four nights during acquaintance; know his wife
he had no children when there ast beiieve he
was practising physician thcre.
The ATTORNEY GsrkaAL here objected to Mr.. Jordan
asking as to prisoners talents as physician.
The CouRr said he thought should be confined to his
Mr. JoaDAr replied that he wanted prove his chsrac-
respectable in character and talent just such
the anrent men would select address them the
subject OF antLrsntsm, and lie would afterwards show
they sought and requesed him to do SO.
slightly modified shape
wirriss-Dr. BIS character was that of respectable,
noon the Indians about there: I saw them perform
in the squares saw what they called the chief he
called nothing but chief as heard this short time
before DR.. B. made his speech saw him and the
chief at one and the time: converssd with DR.. B.
after the address, not till then: he the soop c
zens dress did not hear the chiefs announcement Of
DIR. B's. address
Gross erainel-It is four years last November think
since bought the farm: had owned it about year:
had been round the place and the country before
when bought it it owned by Curtiss Boughon OF
New York: when was up there stopped two or three
ono night with him and one at Mr. Baieys his fathern
laws have not been there snce Dr. B. or Mr. Bailey is
connexon of mines speak Of his character from these
opportunities of knowing it, never heard OF his being
indicted for fogery did not hear the OF the chief
ders the Indians clear place before the piazza
the ladies' and fall back DR. B. said this: he moioned to
Crowded with and citizen, BOTH the Chief
towards the east part OF the stoop while the Dr. was
speaking
Direct resumed-There large concourse; it was
pretty well ded about there there consider
able number OF ladies there's never heard Sheriff Miller
saying any thing about Dr. Ds beng Indicted for for
gerry.
AuRELrus WEBSTER swornI lived in Rensselaer, coun-
y three years ago; born there's live New Lebanon
now lived wit lin four miles Of Dr. B.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL here thought that il right
to object to attempt to prove by witnesses acquainted With
b. to the but s
desrous OF apprzng the counsel also, that It not
levant
The CouRr did not feel it was Necessary TO restrict the
evidence az to character to any particular time it
competent to enquire into general moral char
acter would be desirable to adhere to that slone
WrrSsm-I have been acquainted with his family; his
moral character t0lerable good should think he
considered respectable ply scisn; lived there four or
very highly of his general moral character You come
rather unawares upon mel have not my mind squared
up; some said he was not good physciau-some said he
was-some spoke highly Of his smoralcharacer-so did
not; have heard DR. Heines say he lying man. and
mat ne was not good physician; Dr. Heines practsed
there before DR.. B. there he bought DR.. H..
blishment; DR.. II went to New Lebanon.
Crosseranined- don't know but have heard others
speak i'll OF h,m there two Dr. Hrnes there; father
and they considered respectable men have not
spent any time in that county where DR. lived; have
not heard where d. B. frsm further than that his
parents lived at Cambridge up the North river
place
Jason Z. MILLER sworn Il was At the Smokey Hollow
meeting where the boy shots the then called
Little and Big Thunder saw them parsdnG the disguis
ed men; saw DR. B. at the ,ime-ths is the man
they told me hm-he had disguise on; saw the
in disguise out to speak the pszxa took
him to be of the who acted chiefs; he
very tall