Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1845-02-01

the inquiries Of the gentleman from Massachusetts, s why
he moved strike the word nine and second, Why INC
latitude Of 54o 40 inserted IN the bill Al the last ses-
son when the Committee Territories reported TINS p
the latitude correctly given 54o 4o but BY mistake,
he presumed, Of the printer had been printed o4
4y This was his reason for striking out ''nine.
AS to the question why $40 4y had been inserted, inc
committee in their report had this language MI D. mere
quoted the report which stated that this was the line agreed
upon with Russia in our treaty with that Power she agee
ing not to south Of that ue and we NOT y 90 norm
it. The bill had been based upon the PROVISIONS Of na treaty
The gentleman from Massachusetts, seemed very desirous
that this subject should be laid for the present Mr. b.
hal called d M for two reasons FIRST the great inherent inn
porance Of the subject nd second his own positive promise
to call il up SO soon the Texas resolution should have been
disposed Of He wasuo however anxiousto press through
the House with pcptancy unbecomng the magnitude q
the subject A. es6 EaEfE
So far as the validity Of the American little concerned
Mr. b. entertained not particle Of doubt In regard to il
did he know public oil these United States who
entertained doubt Of it up the latitude Of $40 4V But
the COMMITTEE Territories when they proposed TO extend
laws up that line, had not imagined that they
ererng In the slightest degree with the pending negotiations
respecting title the territory Great Britain had extend
ed her legal jurisdiction the entire extent Of the territory
and exercising such jurisdiction there The United
States, doing the same not in Tie least transcendng
what England herself had done first Why might not do
il well she Our people going into that country
daily few OF them entertained the smallest doubt of our right
to the country, they would go there and they need
ed the protection of laws Ii Great Britain not pre-
vented BY the treaty from erecting her not only but her
military posts and her Notifications all the territory what
was there In the treaty prevent from doing the same
Ought still longer TO lag behind He did not ask that we
should do than she had done but surely might DO
much, and he trusted we should. ~ a3s s.sf
This violation of the existing sipuialons between
thu tse Mr. b. had believed THAI under the
treaty of 1927 or that of 1915 Great Britain had acquir
ed right to joint occupancy with the United states Of the
Oregon Territory @s ny
The Committee on the Territories held the opinion that
ever 1912 had had exclusive right to It's possessio
and England never had divided that right with The s
puation between the nations engaged only that the En-
glsh should have the privilege Of to the rivers and
streams and great highways OF the country, to carry their
trade and their fisheries and for purposes Of hunting
had been intended that they were to hold divided pos
session with But however that might be, if they had
extended their laws the territory, why might not
There might possibly collision between the two
authorities, but when such should occur if it
did, must be provided for The question of probable col
ision which did not belong that House il
question pertaining the Executive and referred to
the treaty of 1927 The Committee the Territories be-
ievcd they acting within the Legislative power Of Con-
gres and they left the Executive act he shoudeem his
duty do, and terminate the JOINT occupancy Of the Ter
ritory when he should think proper The committee had
not nteriered with another department Of the Government
Besides, what difference could the insertion of this parallel
OF $40 4O make None doubted right to the territory
least between APO and 1872 that much Of we might
without dispute extend laws. The committee had pro-
posed TO extend them its whole extent up to $40 40
Should the negotiation terminate (of which he had the
remoest idka IN the loss OF portion Of what camed
and neshoud finally be agreed on which fell short of $40
4V, the effect would only be crta that extent
legislation but still the great body of the territory would
nghuB be subject to laws. So that any view of the
possible consequences Mr. b. could imagine why the bill
shoub not extend jurisdiction far north claimed
Let me negotiation terminate it would, there still be
great portion OF the country to which Great Britain had
ust CLAIM at ALL She claimed down 42o and exercised
her jurisdiction accordingly We claimed up to $40 40
Why should not we exercise that far
HIS understanding was, that all claims boundary
be left to negotiation and that the Territorial Government
when set up the bill proposed, OF be subject
to the result But that this committee might be fully
appned Of the grounds which the bill had been presented
by the Committee the Territories be would ask that few
pages OF the report rendered last session by that committee be
now read lfhe Clerk accordingly read from the report
Mr. KING, of New York, asked whether he had rightly
understood the chairman of the Territorial Committee say
that amy portion Of the territory claimed by Oregon
to be coded or surrendered up by negotiation
Mr.. BROWN replied that he had said no such thing. He
had not expressed such pc his expectation but had dca
ed it, His argument had been hypothetical merely, and
tended to show that the possibility Of portion Of the territory
being hereafter given up would form valid argument against
the poprey Of passing such bill now because all events
there would be ample portion left for laws operate
and where they were greatly needed.
Mr. KING said that nc had, in substance, understood
the gentleman say and he wished repc any such
idea. When the chairman of the Committee Foreign At
that had the Of settling any difference with Mexico
by means of money, the bestsnew of war; And he had
sued the House, moreover, that annexation would create
difficulty with Great Britain Now, any gentleman who did
not rely the known disposition of the American Govern
rnent to and their rights might have supposed
that the acquesence of Great Britain the subject of Texas
to be purchased by surrender Of portion of Oregon
When Mr.. X heard il nsinuaed that there possibility
OF such event. and that there would still be enough of that
territory left for laws operate upon he thought his duty
Oh protest the idea such things
Mr.. BROWN said he really at a loss to know how
any thing he had said could have been entirely misunder
stood He had declared his unbeef that negotiation
would deprive Of the smallest portion Of what claimed
but he had gone supposious for argument sake
But did the very notion of negotiation, the of
claim imply the possibility that line might be agreed
short Of what claimed that a simple npossiblity,
why negotiate He begged Of the gentleman from New York
not to produce at the very outset false impression the
public mind.
Mr.. q. J. INGERSOI,L rose to explain.
Mr.. DUNCAN claimed the floor, but yielded il TO Mr..
SEYMOUR, Of New York. for the purpose Of his moving
that the committee rise.
Mr.. G. ]. INGERsoLL said that the gentleman from
New York Mr. KSs had made personal alusion to him,
and broad insnuaiion that required
After soc strife for the possession of the floor, appeal
some confusion, and not little laughter the appeal
gatyed, and Mr. IyeERsoLL was suffered to explain.
Mr. g. j. INGERSOl then observed that the gentleman
from New York the way (Mr. kINs) had repeated
with decided, and Mr. T. thought very decided emphasis Of
manner. what had passed in the early stage Of the late Texas
debate between the gentleman from Massachusetts, mir. WIN
Tnnor) and himself and Mr.. supposed have said
that our peace could he bought with Mexico He never had
said intended say any such thing When he had re-
marked that what considered the hest sncw of war might
arrange all questions in that quarter the idea Of buyinq our
peace with any body had much rs entered his head
We had open questions with Mexico l this of
Texas and various conflicting interests be settled between
the Governments some avghcr in which money might
be useful. Increased laughter. Hut his notion had ever