The daily union. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1845-1857, 1845-12-09

tai from one and transfer it TO the pockets of an
otherl Where could be found the power to protec
him who manufactured in the eastern States, by
transferring money out Of the pockets Of his brother
in the South , Would any such Illegal procedure
be allowed there They might talk about protec,
'tion; he must say the American people were not
prepared for it Let the House understand what
was the practical operation Of protection Was II
possible that II was required defence for the
manufacturing interests of this country when
they found the manufactures Of the United States
IN every part of the wordin the cities of Liverpool,
OF London, and every part Of the Kingdom Well,
after finding goods III the heart Of Great Bril-
tain--in all parts Of Europe with foreign
goods, and that in the face of high duties, were
they TO be told that American goods needed protec-
tioni Would the American people submit to that
He thought not They would regard the subject
as j, was, and be content with tariff giving rea-
sonable protection.
Mr.. STEWART. The gentleman says we ex-
port goods to London and Liverpool, and different
parts of Europe. Now, | want to know from the
gentleman how much cheaper he thinks we could
get goods from other countries, if the present duty
were taken Off
Mr.. JOHNSON replied that ii was strange, in
deed, that men would go to the risk, trouble, and
expense Of manufacturing goods but to make a
profit and il such was the case, they could do il
even after the abolition Of the tariff. But the gentle
man had, in the course Of his incongruoas re-
marks, attempted to associate protection with great
names. That had some influence. He wished 10
do so, in order to give his random, ncoherent helter-
SHELTER remarks, some weight. He wanted 10 make
Andrew Jackson friend of protection II was
true that when the debt Of this nation ninety
two millions ofdollars-when just emerging out of q
war, when they had no means TO meet their ex-
penses-he did say he in favor of the protection
OF such articles of home produce as were needed in
time of war. But who could understand that great
man better than HIMSELF When he came into pow
er the first thing he did almost was to recommend
in his message reduction Of the tariff Of 1928. II
was therefore wrong to insnuate that General jack
son ever recommended anything like the tariff Of
1872 He opposed the tariff of 1886, called the COM
promise tariff Deeds were stronger than words. Ii
would be found, in following the course Of Jackson
throughout, that he never advocated in any shape
the doctrine of protection. When on the subject OF
tariffs they might go back to that Of 1928, which
had so strong tendency to accumulate revenue
what was the RESULT II was well known. They
saw the same BILL in incipient state coming for
ward now; based on the same principles-those Of
too much money, and extending the
business of the country on false foundation.
iQThe great revulsion Of ls37-the arrangement OF
the whole financial affairs of the Countryside ruin
and confusion of that period were all attributable to
that bill of denominations, imposed on the country
in 1898. On looking abroad they found the same
thing again, in an incipient STAGE in the city of
New York, where there is great amount of de-
posites. Some of those opposed to him (Mr J }
would say that government could do this and that;
that it had some sort of magic power to make the
whole country rich. Ii government had money,
where did it get it from !-from the people Wheth-
er got directly indirectly, it came from them; the
means came to the same in the end. All this the
people might understand but they would, sooner or
later, unless the high tax which was dragging them
down was resisted in that session. He did not wish
to dsparage the eloquence used on the other side;
but he must find fault with the attempt made to per-
suade the people that government could build up
one branch of industry, without running another.
All that was fallacious and absurd. He had not
risen for the purpose of making speech; it was
not his habit nor disposition to do so, if not COM
PEELED. When they talked of protection, what did
they meant Was it not, that when government
projected branch Of industry, it enabled those
engaged in it to get higher prices, to the extent Of
the protectioni But who, in the name Of Heaven,
paid it, The people-;ho people in common OF the
country. When one was protected, anotheLm
pay it; and the idea Of protection was all nonsense
He had put question 10 the gentleman, and he lind
failed to answer it. Who pays for the protection }
If the manufacturers wee protected, the agricultu
rists Of the country must and do pay for it. Talk
about protection! Ii there was anything gained by
it, where did it come fromi Did il fall from the
skiesi They had no right to draw from one class,
and build upon its ruins to elevate and enrich
another. Nobody could come forward and contend
for that principle. In the present law there
was manifest injustice. They hal instances
pointed ont by several speakers, by the mes
sages from the heads of departments and from
the Executive He was moi, in pulling down
The tariff Of 1912, for destroying home industry.
tHome industry !" what song to sing to the peo-
pie VIVA, did they comprehend by that' Some
thought it was confined exclusively to manufac-
Turing industry. The people of Pennsylvania were
willing act conformably to principles of Justice to
iefray the expenses of government. They were
rs much attached to their country as any people on
the globe; but they were not willing that their sub.
stance and their hard earnings should be taken from
hem.
Mr.. J. having ended, there were loud cries of
question, :" Question"
The SPEAK Err put the question on the resolu-
lion; which was carried in the affirmative.
The debate on the resolution of Mr.. DOUGLASS
was then resumed by
Mr.. GARRETT DAVIS, who begged to know
from the gentleman what was meant by the refer
pnce relative to Finland seas" made in his reso-
luton!
Mr.. DOUGLASS replied, that the inquiry would
have been directed, with more propriety, to the
President of the United States than to him, Mr.. D.
In the message reference had been made to the ne
cessty of increase in the navy for the protection
Of our coast, harbors, and inland seas; and in that
have made the reference in accordance
with the terms of the message. He hoped that this
explanation would be satisfactory to the gentleman,
and that il would not be supposed that it was i'm
oerative for him to 60 into an explanation of what
was meant by ssinland seas"
Mr.. DAVIS. The explanation was certainly
rery satisfactory, as it amounted to this-that the
gentleman had used the terms without understand
ng what they meant. QLaughtcr.)
Mr.. WINTHROP had not been very diligent
.eader Of the message for some fances had so much
absorbed his attention, that he had not been able to
subject others to very rigid analysis. But he was
DESTROYS TO know whether the honorable
gentleman from Illinois had not introduced his reso-
ution with reference to any internal Improvement
on the western rivers'
Mr.. DOUGLASS had allusion to that subject in
he message, and therefore had been unable to make
my such reference in his resolution. At the same
ime, he would state that he would have been, for
MS own part, very glad to have found such an au-
sion in the document. -
Mr.. WINTHROP begged TO know if the state.
nent of the honorable gentleman was to be regarded
Is an official announcement "a laugh)
Mr.. DOUGLASS BY no means. He did not
pretend 10 be in any respect official. Laughter