Staunton spectator, and general advertiser. [volume] (Staunton, Va.) 183?-1849, 1845-04-24
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which he afterwards forgeis, indeed his memory
is very treacherous. TRUTH.
The above appeared in the augusta Demo.
crat" Of this week as communication. / do.
manded the author, and found that it was written
by v. T.. Geiger, one of the Editors of the Dem.
ocrat. Passing by the author Of the piece, dSs'
manded the authority for the charge, and found it
to be the following extract Of letter from John
+. Harris, dated March 80, 1916:
81 could not say more. as II respects tho OK.
pressions of Capt. Baldwin, than have hereto
fore said and as now repeat, tina, is, on the i6,h
day of November, 1914, after the final returns
mad been received from New York, heard him
say In conversation with some gentlemen whom
did not know nor do | yet know, "That he was
more convinced now than ever he was that our gov
eminent was not strong enough, that our Sena- .
tors ought to be elected for life, Cor during mood
behaviour,) TO be removed only by impeachment
and not by the will of the people," These are tho
words, think, verbatim, that he made use or forI
Impressed 1t on my memory at the time. As it was
your request have thus given you the above.
acf , rN; foe, somewhat reluctant, ss ana
doing him a favor to promulgate and impress his
opinions as thus expressed on the people.
'e. Join 'afsSf' r. HARRIS.
V. II. GEICER, ESQ.
p. S.-You are at liberty to use the above a.
you think proper to which am ready TO verify.
HARRIS. a.
true copy of the letter in my possession.
ROBERT G. BICKLE.
April 81, 1916.
With what face Mr.. Harris could make this
charge, will be sufficiently understood upon read.
ing the following statement:
STANTON, April 90, 1916.
DEAR SIR AT your request give you sta,e.
ment of what know in relation 10 the charge
brought against you by John r. Harris, that YOU
were in favor of elec,ing Senators of the United
States for life.
Some time after you became candidate for the
Legislature, and before the 23d of March IS45. I
heard Mr.. Harris make the charge against Won in :.
the store of G. Il. Cochran, g. Co. 1 then con-
tradicted it, and we agreed TO refer it to you. The
next day, / think, l was in company with Mr..
Harris when i met you at Mr.. Is. Crawford's
corner, and in presence of MIR. II. and of some
other persons not-now recollected, ] asked YOU il
the charge was true, without informing you how
had heard it. You replied at once that il was
not, when ! turned to MIR. H. as my authority.
An explanation then occurred between YOU and
Mr. H., in which you seemed to wish, in the fret
place, TO find Out where and with whom the con-
versation took place. / understood that the con-
versation took place between you and William
Nj. Tate in presence of DR.. L. Reynolds and him
self. You then stated what that conversation
lad been, and after some discussion, he agreed
That your version of the conversation was correct,
md said that had misunderstood him the even
ing before.
do not remember exactly what your account
IF the conversation was, but think it was tina.
you were speaking of Alexander Hamiton's o. !
'inlons. am certain, however, that you denied
syng tho opinion aTbuss y
Federal Constitution.
With your statement Mr.. Harris expressed him
eif satisfied at that time, and in subsequent con-
'ersations with me repeatedly said that he was
satisfied on the subject.
This is my recollection on the subject and yon
ire at liberty to use this note you choose in de-
ending yourself against this charge.
VIM. Ii. HARTMAN.
CAPT. BALDWIN.
was present at the conversation referred 10 az
he door of Crawford g. Cochran's Store, and it
vas, as understood it, substantially the same as
stated by VIM. II. Hartman.
MICHAEL G. HARTMAN.
April 90, 1896
IT will be observed that the letter of Mr.. Har.
is was written after the conversation given by
hese gentlemen.
Al man may honestly be mistaken. but when his :,
mistake is corrected and he acknowledges it,
epetition of the same matter is no longer mis-
AXE but falsehood.
The conversation out of which this matter ori.
,inated was with William NJ. Tate, ESQ.,, who
ecolects it perfectly, and will state that ex-
PRESSED no such opinion as is charged upon me.
The letter of Mr.. Harris was written on the
I'D ofM March IN, at
he lst day Of April. contradicted the charge
n the Spectator on the 10th day of April, and
low, just on the eve of the election, too late, as
t was hoped for contradiction, the charge is re-
seated. Comment is unnecessary. q.
In regard 10 this Editor, who writes anony-
nous communications for his own paper, and
ssumes the name Of "TRuTH' to give circulation
o.a falsebs5od, fatter myself that to strip him
# his disguise, will effectually rob him Of his
errors. II is the braying of the Ass beneath the
ions skin. JOHN b. BALDWIN,.
p. S. After the above was in type,I Fortunate
y met with VIM. Nj. Tate, Esq, vino promptly
ave Inc the following statement.
JOHN b. BALDWIN.
] have no hesitation in saying that John b.
Baldwin has never to me, within my know
edge, declared himself in favor OF electing Uni
ed States Senators for life. have bad several
conversations with him in relation to the prop
sltioDs submitted in the Federal Convention -
y Hamilton and Madison respectively, and
t is no doubt from one Of these conversations
hat the charge against him has originated.
VIM. M. TATE.
The editor of the New York Evening Post es-
mates the population of that city at the present
me as follows:
W. c;t IN