The New York herald., 1845-11-10

this subject for negotiation, for discussion. for ami
cable settlement and so has been regarded by both
governments for the whole length of time 1t was be-
cause the two governments could not to the
proper division OF the territory upon any other salts
factory arrangement, het in 1918 they determined
JOINT occupation until they could come to under
standing about It, And with the same spirit this govern
ment, at three different times, 1918 in 1924 in 1926
has proposed t. the British government straight line of
division the parallel OF 40 degrees all north OF which
should be assigned to England and all south belong to
America While tho English government did not ac.
cede to this proposition oil government did not
insist upon any right to the whole OF Oregon There
fore the position OF the que on that by the admission
OF both governments through this long series OF years
is that of question for discussion and negotiation and
compromise, and amicabie settlement prolonged ap-
pianse)
Now, gentlemen, read with interest of course, the
discussion upon this subject in the House OF Commons,
from the British Premier which received the sanction
that house. And am willing to avail myself OF the Ian
guage of that minister upon this subject and apply It to
our side Of the question as he did TO his have nothing
to complain OF to the temper OF that language; am
free to say that il was temper becoming large mind
ed, liberal and Just statesman But what the British
minister said in the House of Commonsn its sum and
substancewas, that England had rights in regard TO
this question that must be and would be respected.
adopt the language our side, and say that
also have rights that ought to be, must be- and will be
Now gentlemen do not purpose to express to you an
opinion upon this subject ! have no better opinion
than sny one of you as to the manner in which this adj
jusment ought to be made, but have full confidence
the utmost confidence, that can be made that it eau
be made by wise and moderate measures ina manner
i
rights OF all parties. (Cheers)
am the more confident Of this when look little for
ward and the state of things which is not far in ad
vance. Where is Oregon On the shores Of the Pa.
cifc three thousand miles from and twice far from
England VINO is to settle it Anne rcans mainly some
settlers undoubtedly fromngland but all Anglo Saxons
all men educated in notions OF Independent government
and all self dependent. And let ask if there be
any sensible man in the whole United States who will
say for moment that when fifty hundred thousand
persons of this description shall find themselves the
shores of the Pacific Ocean, that they will long
to be under the rules either Of the American Congress
the British Parliament They will raise standard
for themselves and they ught to do It. look forward to
the period when they will do this distant but
that many now present. and those not among the young
est OF us will see great Pacific republican nation;
believe that 1t is in the of Providence and OF hu
man destiny that great State to arise of English and
American descent whose power will be established
the country on the shores of the Pacific and that all
those rights of natural and political liberty all those
great priniples that both nations have inherited
them, that there will exist the mouth Of the Colum
bia or more probably farther SOUTH great Pacific re-
dence separating themselves from this governme and
forming integral part et new government half way
tile and desirable portion of the globe and quite
from Europe and from this side of the American
Contnent to be under the governmental influence Of
! either country.
This state of things is by far off as may
imagine; by no means remote from the present time
may be supposed and looking to this state of things
this question becomes upon which intelligent and
welldsposed men might very readily come to agree
ment.
But gentlemen, in this point of view is this subject
upon which it is proper by popular appeal or by loud
fance of the power of great nation sde-is it
proper on the oner side by cries about the maritime
ascendancy of England the great wealth, the dignity
the power the martial prowess OF England is ques
ton which, by outcres OF this sort either side Of
the ocean, these two great communities to be en-
broed and plagued in all their commercial and friendly
relaons-or to be compelled into the horrors Of
war? No. gentlemen the spirit of the age is against it
have said will not undertake to express an opinion
to the in which the question may be settled
will say, however what appears to be natural It is
well known that the 49th degree of north latitude the
boundary line between the western part of this
try and the British provinces far the foot of the
Stony Mountains. 1t seems to be natural enough if the
! two governments contemplate change, that they
should agree to extension of this line westward
that the two should keep abreast side by side with
the line of division till they reach the Pacific
Ocean. 1t s well known, that about where the Coum.
bia River the 49th parallel makes turn and
sudden sweep to the noyhward IRps ERnsand would
then naturally say, this river which has been making
westward, sweeps to the northward; instead of making
with 1t great bend to the north we will leave it and
straight to the Pacific Ocean this parallel Of 40
degrees For the reason, it is not unnatural for
makes circuit to the southinstead of following that
circuit we will go straight upon the 4oth parallel till
we meet the shore of the Pacific Ocean.
This very proposition has been made to the British
government three successive times. It was made in is,
parallel, westward from the Lake Of the Woods not
only to the foot Of the Rocky Mountains but the
mountains and onward to the ocean.
am not about to say whether this is proper division
of the territory not But do say that as it has been
often repeated in this twenty yve and twenty,
something negotiate about and treat about for either
side that it is not question free from difficulty on
Now, gentlemen, who is the at the head of either
government who will take upon himself the responsible
ty of bringing war; between two rations like Great
Britain and America, upon question of this KIND until
he prepared to show that anything and everything that
he could do has been done to avoid such terrible ult
mate resuti Mr. W.. was Interrupted here by renewed
cheers. If British minister under whose administra
tration should the question: cannot stand
in Parliament and show that is not his fault cannot
show that he has done everything which an honest and
sensible do to avert the conflict undertake to
oston for an hour. [Cheersl And in the same sense
and spirit that If in this country, any party shall
before we are aware Of plunge us into war upon this
question: must expect to meet very inteTIoga
tory from the American people must expect to prepare
itself to show that it has done all it could, without any
bias from the pride OF success or the love of war-ali
that could do, to keep the nation safe from great
calamity, with the preservation of its rights and its
honor.
| Gentlemen, it appears to that any man prime mi.
mister OF England President of the United States, who
such subject (dames let mo add that will burn
over tho whole gobe) may we'll consider the genius of
his country addressing to him the words which the
tor OF Rome supposed the genius of his country would
address to him if he did quel the Catane conspiracy
I'm cum bella rasadtnr Italia rerab,ner nbes ecfa
ardebun um te eTismds inpidi ncendio eontlasra
tu.un." [Applausel
No, gentlemen the man who shall, mcauiiously, or
led on by false ambon party pride kindle those fires
of the globe this question look out for
it-must expect to be himself consumed in burning
confi9gratio oil general reroach. Prolonged cheers
There will be a public Indignation before which
popularity public private can sandit will melt down
every OF the dead, it will destroy all respect
tor the living it will burn up every vestige of respect
for individual worth il unnecessarily, if reckessly, il
ambitiousy, it has plunged the subjects md citizens Of
two civilized Christian States of the world into
war which shall the loss of millions Of wealth
shall turn cities TO smokeshal thousands and hun
dred OF thousands OF vesnn those smoking cities, and
that destruction of property, and that sacrifice oil ie
shall be found over the whole globe, in every latitude
and longitude, surrounding the ball on which we live
Nh Ar Vntn that htu inrt
We take any alarm. propose that keep ourselves
cool and calm. In Of the southern cities there is
now some agitation for fear OF war. | regret this
much hardly say regret the feeling that is natural
But regret the cause. II is common mistake Of men
not in the most elevated position that they think they
can play the small patriot safely, in small style
Laughter) These are those who think that they can
talk OF war with England and any other nation and
get credit for their patriotism and lofty love of country
but keep the game in their own hands. That may not