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e,poo papers to the 5h instant and our London files
| To the evening Of the previous day The Caledonia
left Liverpool on the 9th. having been detained one
da, beyond her stated time Of departure for the pur
pose oil bringing out the result OF the debate in the
House Of Commons on tie Oregon question. That
subject had became The theme Of exciting interest.
and was promptly brought before the House by Lord
John Russell, Immediately upon the re-assembng of
Parliament after the Easter recess.
As this business seems To have assumed a decided
not to say startling-earnestness on both sides
Of The British House of Commons, we give At length,
| the speeches OF Lord john and sir Robert Peel IN
| reply. The premier, il will be perceived, confirms
the statement put forth by Mr.. Tyler in his annual
message as TO the amcable mode in which the Ore
gon question had been discussed between our Seere
tary OF State and the British Minister at Washing
ton, Mr.. Pakenham. hut almost directly coniradicis
the assertion OF the American Executive. OF "A favor
able prospect of the result Of the negotiation. So
lar from anticipating desirable result, Sir Rob-
ert Peel but little chance for an AMIGA
BILE termination of the controversy, while The United
States Government continue To maintain the ground
| assumed by Mr.. Polk in his inaugural address. 1t
lie not To lie concealed therefore, that the remarks Of
Sir Robert Peel affords grounds for grave apprehen-
sIOns Of serious difficulty. Tie as sterny and uncom-
promsingy maintains the British right TO the disputed
territory, our Government and we NAV add great
| majority of our people, assert our own undnnbted
claim TO that territory. Still do not believe aud
viii not permit ourselves to believe that the two
countries will suffer this question 10 involve then in
this question satisfactorily short Of an unnatural and
proftless appeal to arms will turn up
HOUSE OF ! ORDS-Friday, April 4.
THE OREGON QUESTION:.
Lord Aberdeen said lie would willingly lay before
the House the details Of the negotiation upon The sub
ect of The Oregon territory, and appeal to them for
his entire justification in the face Of Europe; hut al
though this might hereafter lie necessary, il would
now certainly be mIotc. lie declined TO enter in
to AN examination of the British title TO the territory
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negotiation had taken since the signing Of the treaty
Of Washington, and quoted the expressions of Pres
dent ~ Ter in his message of the 18Th OF February,
indications of friendly feeling, and Of desire that
the question might be brought 10 an amcabe solu-
ion. In n fortnight after, however, Mi. Polk had
delivered his inaugural address. in which he claimed
for The United States undispuIed title To The
whole country. 1t WAS, indeed to he observed that
this speech did not possess the force OF official
document, AS no Ministry had been formed, Com
gress was not in session, and it foimed no part of
leg lslatve proceedings; but il was still worthy Of
the most serious attention. Our position WIS pre-
csey the il had been for the last 10 years,
under the treaty of 1927. The provisions cf that
treaty had been prolonged for an indefinite period,
subject TO the right OF either party TO terminate by
giving "A years notice THIS could not be done
without vote Of Congress, and that body weuld not
assemble until December, so that sufficient time
still left to bring the matters in despue 10 satisac-
tory conclusion. The negotiation had commenced
and would nue upon the principle Of AMIGA
BILE adjustment by The mutual concession Of extreme
claims; and although he daily accustomed 10 see
himself described az "pus Unanimous, cowarlly, and
base" he was perfectly satisfied that those vuper-
ating terms might be translated as applicable To
conduct consistent with justice, reason, and com
mon sense. No one was ever more ardenily desi-
rOus oil peace, disposed to make greater sacrifices
to preserve it, bnt there were limits which could not
I've passed, and although our character and position
enabled regard with Indifference matters res
pecting which other countries might be justly more
sensitive, oui honor must never be neg eced, and
might owe il to ourselves and To prosperity to
adopt Course which was repugnani To all eli
nations. With the most anxious desiie lar peace,
he still trusted that thus question might be- amicably
oncluded hut II not posse ssed rights, clear aud
unquestiouabe, which, continued the noble earl a.
midst loud and general cheering, by the blessing Of
God and the support OF Parliament, the Cove, mr. nj
is prepared 10 maintain.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
In the House of Commons, Lord John Russell, on
reading the order of The day for going into
OF supply, called the attention o the House TO thai
part OF the message of the Pres dent of the Unit I'd
States which related 10 the territory Of Oregon II
was not bis intention, he sad to enter al all into the
question OF the iorei gn policy Of her maesy's gov
eminent, or even oil their policy this very subject
of the Oregon; neither was il his wish, by any OBJ
Sc rvations which he might then make. 10 embarrass
their proceedings. But the inaugural address Of
President Polk had taken this question out OF the
oil binary course of diplomatic arrangement, and lie.
CURED some notice on the part Of members Of that
house. That distinguished dictionary had adopted
course entirely new, which, il II were not met with
something unusual their parts, would let ques tons
OF great national Importance I've decided hereafter by
popular addresses from the head Of the government
and by The popular action resulting hereirom The
President in his message had alluded to the
ton of Texas to the United States-an allusion
which he only noticed for the purpose Of showing
that the present policy Of the executive government
OF the United States tended 10 territorial aggran-
dlzeme1t. In his next sentence, The President de-
clared his intention TO assert and mainain, by all
constitutional means the right Of the Unitsd States
10 that part of their territory which situated be-
, yond the Rocky Mountains. sour tiie," said he,
"to the country Of Oregon is clear and unquesiona
BILE, and already people preparing perfect
that title by occupying il with their wives and chill
dren." In consequence of this declarations he Lord
RusselD felt compelled 10 cal the attention OF The
house and the country 10 this question, in order that
they might see how far the President was justified
in saying that his title to the country OF the OREGON
: clear and tionable, and in declaring his
intention 10 take 1t into his possession without any
regard to those treutsa, which generally the
bonds Of eace between Independent nations. There
J were three modes by which title might be acqur-
ed country like the Oregon: the first was by an
cent discovery; the second by treaty. and the third
by discovery ancient or modern, followed up by &C.
cupation and settlement
He then entered into statement, for the purpose
of showing that ifhe title Of the Oregon rested on an
cent discovery, England could put In claim far
perior to that of the United Sales that if it rested
on treaty, we had a claim that was undeniabe,
whilst that Of the United States had no ground what.
ever 10 stand, and that if II rested on modern dis
covery, tile discovery of the Columbia, made, car
red on and authorised by regular officers of the Bril-
fish Government, and the subsequent settlement of
the territory surrounding il by British Subjects gave
US n title which the American Government could
not dsplce. Captain Vancouver had discovered the
river Columbia; his lieutenant had sailed 80 miles
up its stream, and British subjects from Canada had
arected u forts banks and had long been car
} rying on favorable trade there. He then gave a
history Of The negotiations Ibe,ween Great Britain
and The United States respecting this country, and
traced them from their CONNIE to the period
when the existing convention formed in 1927,
between Mr.. Rush on the side and MI. Huskis.
son on The other. A new circumstance had now
risen up. The President Of the United States had
made peremp,ory claim 10 all this tern tory, and
had called upon The citizens of the United States TO
go forth with their and children TO take pos.
session Of il.
A Now, Columbia was become of more Imperial nee
each succeeding year tt e Government ought there.
fore, TO insist speedy solution of this question
for there danger lest The citizens of the United
States should disturb British subjects in the enjoy.
v Bent of their property on the Oregon, and should
thus produce a collision between the two Govern
,nenls. lie WAS not prepared To say that Great
Britain should abate any of her Just preensons nor
' where should draw The line between the Aineri-
cans and ourselves lie thought, however, that we
could not accede proposal less than that made
by Mr.. Canning in 1927, with any regard to our own
interests. lie had heard il said that The value of
this territ ry matter Of Indifference To us; but
il not matter Of indfe TO us whether We
should yield any portion Of our territory 10 what he
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