The New York herald., 1845-02-08


table.
And the Senate went into Executive session.
House OF Representatives.
WARRINGTON, Thursday, Feb 6, Ie45
On motion of Mr.. KENNEDY, of Md, the House adopted
resolutions calling upon the Secretary Of the Treasury
ous collectors This has particular reference to the
order respecting duties coffee by Dutch and American
General MCKAY of NJ c.. moved that the rules be sus.
pended and the House resolve tsefnto Committee ofthe
Whole on the State Of the Union.
Mr. HousroN of Ala, wished to be allowed to take up
bill giving right OF passage through the Public Lands
to Railway Company in Tennessee and Alabama. Re
General McKAYs motion was then agreed to, and the
House resolved itself into Committee OF the Whole,
Mr.. VINToN, Of Ohio, in the Chair.
The Committee resumed the consideration Of the BILL
making appropriations for the Indian department
General MCKAY moved, that il there were
amendments, it be reported to the House.
Mr.. scHENcx of Ohio said he had an amendment to
propose.
CAVE JOHNSON of Tenn, made some remarks, which
were inaudble to the reporter.
MIR. scHErcx inquired il there any other amend.
The CHAIR Replied there were not as the one offered
yesterday had been decided out of order.
Mr.. BIDLAcx Of Ohio, hoped that the chsrman Of the
lection on the point of order and allow that amendment
to be adopted.
General MCKAY withdrew his objection.
The amendment approprating $4,000 for the expenses
adopted ,o,, -. -
posing an increased appropriation to the Wyandot In
dians He said that this offered to the members Of the
question o Reputation or no Reputation He said that
the bill proposed an appropriation Of in lieu OF
annuities. but made no further proposal The treaty he
said for purchasing the lands OF the Wyandottes in Obo
had direct and positive stipulation providing that the
States should pay those Indians for the improvements
considerable value and the value Of which to be
certaned by by appointed BY
their Commissioner survey was undersksn, snd
when finished the appraisemen amounted to $l270v4
much to the surprise OF every one. for had been sup
posed that would not amount to more than $40 900 to
which amount an appropriation had been made in ad
vance. There was collusion fraud the appraise
ment had been made according to the terms Of treaty
and the Commissioner Indian Affairs had supposed that
nothing remained but for the United States TO pay the
send the report Of the Commissioner to the Clerks
desk to be read, (Which Yves accordingly done. and
| the facts there stated were o. above) Mr.. Vance
| read providing for the appraisement, and agree
ing to the payment Of the amount Mr.. 8. said
provemens had been valued extraordinarily high, but
would be seen that theCommissoner Of the opinion
that there was but one alternative: either the United
States must pay the debt legally contracted must
pudiate it, Congress had appropriated $40
the paymeat Of thi. claim leaving s5 DUE and this
to provide for in the amendment he had pro
posed He then went into examination Of the
he supposed to have been brought to bear upon
President in order induce him to believe that ii was
important that survey should be made which he
attributed to the designs and efforts OF speculators who
were desirous to obtain these lands oe Of the best in
the StateD and the treaty provided that the minimum
price Of these lands when brought into the market
was to be 81 40 per acre in addition to the appraised
value OF the Improvement which, therefore, il be-
came important to them to have reduced. He
characterized the Presidents appointment Of second
ton Of authority which he did not but even that
commission appointed with the express view of reducing
the apprasement under the opinion that the former
exorbsntly high had only reduced it TO $66 00O This
he said the President had right to do at ALL and the
question for the House decide whether having
made badbargan, they considered themselves at lbe.
y to violate il on that account If the President could
appoint second commission, he might appoint third
ana fourth and to the end Of time. There had
been no fraud couson, mismanagement on the part
Of the ndiahs and the commissioner of Indian affairs
declared in his report and the question Of repu
daton or reputation the part othe United States
and net merely reputation but marked with the gross
est infamy which could attach to any act.
Cave JoHnser, of Tenn. offered an amendment in lieu
Of Mr. Schencks, proviing for the confirmation Of the
second survey and apprasemen made and the payment
Of the amount providing it be received in full Of all de-
He said he conceived the United States stood different
relation to the Indians to that in which they stood
duals He thought they stood in the relation Of guar
dans, and II was their duty to that justice done
to the 81. and also to the ssner, He
apprasement which valued the property a three four
times its actual value He then read extracts from the
reports showing the way in which the appraisements
made Some lets Of from % lao or upwards
bad been valued with improvements at S64 acre. at
which the estimates were made.
Mr., ,BarrxxRHory-Allow me to ask what quantity Of
land was valued at $54 per acref
| Mr.. .VArcE-Forty acres
Mr.. BnIrxrRHorr livery decidedly)-n could mot be
worth that much.
CAvE JOHNSON then went to show further the mani
testify and over estimated value Of these
lands, giving the amounts Of various appraisements
mode in which the appraisements had been made by men
who were trading with the Indians and selling goods
them at twice and three times their value He also
of
President had been because the House had refused to
appropriate the money and therefore the President sent
over estimated that both he and the House misht
have information on the subject lIc therefore
sas Indians should 5s paid the amount Of the second
would take IT, in full satisfaction of all claims against the
Mr. vASoE OF Ohio, supported the proposition to ray
the orginal valuaon and asked II the United
going to hggle about this pary amount when they lad
driven the Indians from their homes across the Missp-
pi-a gallant race OF people, too, who had defended our
frontier during the last He sad Mr. Johnsons pro-
position YVES to pay them hafthe claim or sarye them
m ST JOHN oi Ohio, said that the tract alluded to was
in his district lie then went on to describe the mode Of
Ppraismen saying that the parties appointed we're when
the other lawyer-they had the control OF the traders
with the Indians and he understood that they undook
%nus ,nsm n. We, the 10 pon
out where errors might occur In the apprasement ana
in:tancing number Of these improvement: @ and the
purchase quarter section Of land well improved, for
less than one fourth the price He also showed that
a number Of these improvements were made with
government funds and now they charged this extra
VACANT price to the government number Of other par
ticuars he insanced, showing the frauds which were
per perated the government and thought they were
required 10 payany such unjust claims as hesethey
were too ready 10 do and aid benefit the Indians
would they think any more Of the government for it,
Il only induces others to prefer similar claims.
After some conversation between MIR VANCE, Mr..
PhrSaLr, and Mr. ST. JoHr the question put and Mr.
JoHrsor asked for ellers his amendment and there
adopted.
Mr. scHsscx then proposed TO amend by the insertion
lance.
The CHAN declared II to be out of order.
The question then put the amendment a. amend
%, which was sdoptsd--ysas 7oj nays Al.