The New York herald., 1845-03-27

CouRT.-We have got enough on TINS point, MI Jor-
dan.
WIrNEss--I remember when Runnslls was brought in.
CoUhr-What has that to do with it. Mr. Jordan
Mr. JORDAN said he would show that the Sheriff abused
his authority that of extreme importance to him
10 get these men convicted and he did not succeed, 1t
was proosoie he would yet hear OF all this
The ATroRrEy GENERAL observed, that it must be OBJ
vlsus that these remarks made by the defence not
rom their relevancy but to animadver upon the Sheriff
and respectable citizens and TO associate them with black
legs and criminals.
Mr. JORDAN replied that he had least decision OF
the court in his favor to the ree OF evidence he
would correct the Attorney Gneral when he said that
ne Mr Jsrdan) sensible of the reevancy of his
he was sensible OF no such thing and would take
MS course
The ArronS.v GENERAL thought it an unusual unfair
md extraordinary course to charge him WITH saying
associates of black legs and crmnals he eonerded the
remarks and testimony sought to be introduced by the
defence was nappcabe TO the present case, and should
not be received.
Cross Examination resumed-Runnells was marched
Town music and brough directly to the Court Houses
Grst him at sutherlands and McClelands ofice-I
had nethng to do with in no way or shape did not try
prevent it, had nothing to 40 with III took charge
he jailer he cane in under military escort IA whole
string Of questions here put which omitted Of
STEPHEN L. MAaouN sworn-I am attorney; COM
menced sometime in December, in favor Of Mary
Livingston, against James P Langdon.
Mr. JORDAN objected to this evidence wholly mad
mssihe end was sustained by the Court who noted the
exception taken to its decision by counsel for the prose-
JAMES McARrHUn sworn--I was at Copske on the llth
OF December; could not say at what hour got there in
the aernoon passed by Vosburgh in going to Copske;
Afer pissed it discovered large number Of persons
coming from Copake and going towards vosburghs
turned back with them Isaw the Sheriff in his
risge and also man they called Big Thunder didn't
be gsds remarks hss
s pistol UP above his head can't say why the Sheriff
didn't sell the property dstraned and advertzed for sale
that day don't know he could SELL heard he
resisted when Sheriff Miller said he wouldn't sell ii
he was resisted the chief held up his pistol as have de-
shnl HOW
here there were perhaps 400 in disguise and many
not in disguise he did not sell there; he turned
Decker's he was surrounded BY these men he didn't
elllthere; l think the Sheriff used much the same
ns and ns Of
Thunder at Copake, after he got into the circle !
couid not see any papers at ALL but beard them de-
here q vote taken: think the Sheriff first asked
m hat right he had to- his papers, then Big Thunder
urned and said he would leave vote of the natives
and put the notion saying all that's in favor of hold
up your right hand;" believe they held up their right
loths and went to the fence without seeing what took
place futher then we started for the Flats ahead Of the
rocesson with two three acquantances at the Flat
Big Thunders calico dress few open, and noticed his
coat think it black frock coat; he was called Or.
8oughton-thst is the there think say MN on IN.
ersng with them, butt heard nothing he sad. nor aid
ao try; this was after some row there; housht the
the he man saw On
out to DR.. Boughon; had seen him at Rock elsr
oeo.e addressing %eetlng id,d not mean that be
latin also; cant say what sort Of meeting was nor
lid hear what he said; the coat took to be the same
aim at Gaatin next day; this before the meeting
when the papers taken he appeared to be speaku
lad coat and panaloons stuffed with straw; they had
n to rail pole il called John g. Livings.ons
mage; they put fire to it, and cut it up with the tome
hawks and spears; Boughton wasa talking but don't
know whether it was speech; there was crowd round
aim; did not DR. Boughton and Big Thunder at
ka~
croken up; Ilnever thought of their size at all.
Mr. JORDAN objected to his being asked his belief to
he ideny Of Dr. Boughton and Big Thunder he was to
facts not transfer his inferences into the minds of
he jurors.
Judge PARxER-We will put the question in this form
From what you on that occasion, do you believe
~asB Big Thunder 2"
Mr.. JoRDAr.-well, that I object to.
CoURr.-It is the only way to prove the identity Of
man must be eventually LETT to the jury 1t is still an
,dmissible question: and we will put il in that form.
WIrNKss-ube question being putl-I don't know
what to say said all to you can form any opinion
about thought and wished to be understood all the
shile that from his coat the man; heard Big
whether Il was was not similar
CrosSeramined Il said 1t was the same coat and he
had sort OF chain round his neck at Rockfeers and
Galatin; saw his face and knew HIM; il near
iiderable spree there's think DR.. Boughton had psnta
looms OF the color OF the coat he has couldn't see
ress can't tell the color the subject Of his converse
ion at Freighs the collection Of rent heard no
advice gven heard him advise them at the scotchown
meeting to conduct themselves peaceably and seek le
,aremedy never saw him but at these places Belding
pointed out at Ancrsm and Gallstin he and the pr
oner " ere there together in the same company.
Direct resumed- don't reeollect what time the meet
ng was at Rockefeler's 1t might have been aweek or
hour paid particular attention to what he said;
think after he closed his speech three or four Indians
came out otthe house and walked round; didn't hear
where they came from; didn't hear him mention about
the Sheriff nor myself reside at place called Ancram
Lead Mines.
sheriff's papers burnt down at VosburghS;
the Indians and heard the chief leader Big Thun-
der ask the sheriff what he intended to do the sheriff re-
piled he had come there TO sell some property adver
,ised think Big hunder told him to sell at his peril
kept Oft little out of the way and heard little more OF the
Big Thunder saying he called natives that
the sheriff did not intend to sell there but was going to
another sale IN the nsghborhood for the purpose Of show
ing that he anxious do his duty; when Big Thun-
der said sel at your PERIL think he had pistol in his
hand; cannot say he pointed towards the sheriff; was
coat blowing up twice at the sale; think his
coat wasa dark brown frock coat; saw gentleman in
it was DR.. Boughton; he inviting these present
attend an antire meeting at Claverack, next week,
coat, think the prisoner is the gentleman who was
speaking there; did Big Thunder at this tine.
Crosserdmned. strikes me II was dark brown coat
speak of an outside coat; didn't what coat he had
under that; saw them drink brandy in that ring;
The sheriff drink; the brandy called fer by Big
Thunder to treat the sheriff don't know that he drank
Big Thunders health; he did not seem to be much en-
barrassed nothing particulars when the papers were
delivered up, there something said about having an
antrent sheriff. the sheriff come into the ring very
soon after; there was something sad by Big Thunder to
the sheriff after the papers burnt about ther being
Of the class politicians and spologsed to be under
the necessity Of appearing in thst uncouh apparel but
hoped to take him by thehanA and him reelected by
the peoples netioed change In the sherifi counte-
nance or whether he was vexed or pleased.
Direct rermed-I don't know that the sheriff was pre-
sent at the remarks about the entren sheriff they had
circle formed in front Of the avern Big Thunder was in
the middle Of III am positive there was some reference
made to bis being candidate fer reelection; reside al
Ancram six miles from Copske Flats aud about the same
from Vosburghs 81 the sheriff in the ring when Big
Thunder addressed him about re-cccton he said some
thing sboW the sheriff giving his papers reuctantiy
he said he wished to say for the sheriff at his request h
the pspers were not given up willingly; was sometime
after that saw DR.. Boughton; two hours perhaps
Crsssenanired IL heard him invite the sheriff to par
take Of the hospitality Of the naves the sheriff made no
rpply the natives sgreed to the proposal Of the sher d
ming their expense; heard Big Thunder tell the hest
take the shers horses, after returning from the
sale; heard angry words between him and Big Thun-
der that day; but thought he little embarrassed at
n