The New York herald., 1845-09-28

as regarded the restoration OF the Bishop was ques-
tsn OF different character altogether and could not DO
at the present before the Convention II was
foreign from the purposes Of debate and irrelevant
to the issue before themi .
There several Interruptions amid loud CRIES ..
"ordsr, "srdsr," and question" question" whilst
dent s frequently insrpO.ed and called to ORDER the
marks Of Justice Jones not being heard save IN the i-
mediate vicinity from which he spoke
PREHoENr-Let those gentlemen who can't near
themselves allow others hear and those who do not
wish should also allow others to hear WI may DC
Chief Justice JoNr, briefly continued further re-
marks, when
About fifty of the members Immediately stood up,
crying President Mr.. President. submit Mr. Presl.
dent rse-order order, order. Mr.. President move
that the question be taken by order"
Judge BURNrTT said he came there in spirit of con-
ciaton and in all things had tried TO exercise that sp
rt and hoped that those members who came with
professions OF the same kind would act in the
ton Of concstion1 The conclusion to which he
came is the same that set forth in the report he
confess that he did believe that the report Of
such satisfactory character indicating that hsd
yielded and that would be received with all but
acclamation but when he here exhibited spirit to
fight each resolution he was aston shed at the deduc
tons of gentleman who advocated the amendment of
the esouton last read The gentleman proceeded in
his show that the committee had expressed
course binding upon to the construction OF
canon He will not advert to the particular character Of
that canon, but remark that II they intended only as
brought such report if it only definition Of
the case it could not change its character it seems to
be illogical contend that the individual who intro
duced this canon abandoned il because 1t could not be
carried without altering its character but he has II
from authority tha was sy ~,
that in the prosecution and condemnation OF bshop
Onderdonk that the court actually attempted to carry
out this construction Of the canon lie Is Wiling 10 al
nit that opinions in out OF the Convention are not
to be construed giving instructions to form canon
What was the opinion Of the distinguished lawyer
IN BishOps-hl8
shop should be deposed. but wnglywould he have the
lighter punishment of indefn suspension if it would
result to the interest welfare Of the diocese" And
another distinguished lawyer the Bishop Of Delaware
said that the sentence would not dssever the connec
ton the Bishop and the Diocese On the first
baotng he voted for suspension and the second for
deposition therefore, he considered that the sentences
ferent, and gave the reasons which induced him
to change his opinion.
MrHIRAM KErcuM then amid the cry Of order, Mr.
President order am about to say order, Mr. President
Mr. President MIR. Ketchum waived his right to speak
Judge OAKLEY said desrous Of
reaching the result than he and would submit whe
ther it would not be stop and refer the
matter the General Convention to take into consde
ration the state of the diocese seemed to him that all
parties might meet on that ground. and thereby put
a resolution which he prepared for the purpose
A Rev. MEMBER asked Judge Oakleyif he would with
draw his resolution and he would submit substitute
Judge OAKLEY withdrew, and the Rev. gentleman
submitted a resolution justying the Committee in the
course they had TAKEN and that the Committee continue
in its name to perform Episcopal acts that the ex
penses be paid out Of the Episcopal fund.- and that the
presiding bishop be requested to call Convention Of
Bishops take into consideration the state Of the Do
JNo A. KING proposed to adopt the resolution under
debate provided the house would adopt tie resolution Of
JNo G. SPENCER said that the gentleman cannot
to rescnd vote of the houseit must be done by mo-
tion to rec onsider.
The SECRETARY then read the second paragraph of the
third resolution the report of the majority Of the Stand
ing Committee of twenty in these words =" And that
uutil eHecual and permanent provisions be made or
supply 0f Episcopal services the Standing Committee
60 nue. in its own name and authority, to invite
. rag9lmance of such Episcopal acts, for or within
diocese, as may be necessary, by Bishops 81 this
Church"
desire Convention to force the question before the
Diocese before those who wish to speak the subject
have opportunity if the ma jority were deter.
mined to do it, OF fcourse he must submit
The PRESIDENT not aware that any gentleman had
spoken than twice on the subject
great many the floor, but unable to make himself
heard Mr. President insist upon my right Mr. Pres
ident, | adjourn to TIsnday, at O'Clock.
move we adjourn sine die insist upon the question of
adjournment Mr. President the question, the question
The PnEspnNr then put question of ournment to
o'clock Monday, and the ayes and noes appeared to
be balanced
Mr. DuER arose. Mr.. President Il move we adjourn)
have plan to propose which will meet the sanction ef
the Convention.
JoHS c. SPENcER-I have faith in any thing of the
kind.
motion was made to adjourn to o'clock in the
ming and the question submitted by the President
PREsrpENr-Will the house be seated the President
appeared to be at non plus.
The PRESIDENT then said the question before the house
the second paragraph OF the third resolution.
Cries Of move to adjourn to 10 o'clock on M Monday
is the resolution before read
The member who proposed the motion to adjourn to
Monday, at o'clock, calls for division the vote.
Mr. President am constrained to say insist my
right to call a division on my my motion for adjourn
ment. Great conuson) One Of the members said that
great many the house think that the house want to
press the question the resolution without allowing
those who opposed to it TO speak on the subject
The question to adjourn again put by the Presi-
dent and vociferous aye and equally vocerous nay,
answered.
The question was taken again. and again No vote ap-
peared taken; the ayes and nays being equal
1t then moved that the House adjourn to o'clock
in the evening move to adjourn to Tuesday morning
i move TO djourn sine die.
MrMBsR-It is utterly dsreputable to this house to
have motion of this kind made
MEMBER.-I move to adjourn to 10 O'Clock Monday
mornng-the rule says that the regular hour shall be
o'clock, but 1t is competent to move another hour, and
to 10 O'Clock Monday morning President thinks the bu
sness O had better 60 on, many Of the lay members
live at a distance and cannot wait.
Lay DELEGATE and saId, that he willing to
wait all of next week
JoHs C. SPENCER asks that the question the resou
ton be put.
The PRESIDENT puts the resolution in the report the
majority again before the House. Those in favor of
MEMBER jumps on his feet Is this parliamentary
usage 2 cannot vote until give my views. You have
been all talking about long enough. want the
house to direct vote the main question,
may discuss the at their leisure whether it is
cordng to the not propose this solution
Resolved That in the opinion OF this convention the
Right Rev Bishop b. f. Onderdonk can again pre-.
side this diocese This is direct proposition and
want moral resolution taken Cries Of order" from
all parts OF the house) have doubt would be called
to order in that quarter Of the house if read from the
prayer book poinng to the right of the altar) want
to know whether the plan about the and
to dodge the main question. tOrder) wish to see the
mar that Order order" fom the house and several
speaking, while the President looks conounded) will
not give way except to adjournment (ere the cry Of
Question question: uttered by hundred at
and the of the President kept continually
knocking the desk)
A MEMBER got up and said that when he came to the
assembly he entered the house under a'solemn duty
to discuss matters temperately that many wan.
ted to speak who have not had an opportunity
There was great deal Of time consumed in discussing
technical questions without coming to the point at issue
he would appeal to the good sense of the Convention
whether it would not be better to act with debe-