The New York herald., 1845-03-29

resher in his memory. he believed It, and certain at
H. c. MILLER called-I have identified prisoner from
his boots and the looks and appearance Of Big Thunder
Cross .aamsd-I mean to say that Tie boots were one
OF the means by which identified him have reco
lection oftslliDg him arrested him by civil process
WALTER DoRcHEsrER sworn-I was at Copgse when
the paperwere burnt think noticed the called
Big Thunder there: noticed his boots which were
newish to me- like q new boot first they
thick soled was pre- ent when the papers were burned
Big Thunder was there saw the brandy brought in it
was ordered by Big Thunder saying the sherih was
weariea out in the cold: Big Thunder slipped up and
said, "Gens there il poison in thIs" and he drank
success to sheriff MilIer-heres your health (" the
Sheriff accordingly drank Little Thunder drank
drank, and drank believe the ss the bottle was then
ordered out by Big Thunder think noticed the dress
stripe bis mssH wss white light
and soled and wet considerable round the mouth with
sneakng his cap was white, with yellow band i'd two Or
when the dinner table set have conversed with
Sheriff Miller in his Office about the mask he had vel
live, and did then at Hilsdale: don't live
any Of this lease land the Sheriff said the light colored
it plain one entirely white, flowers round the
nose or eyes-that yellow one he thought was the one
Crosseramined.- sheriff told me that yellow one
was the one he had stood in the ring the whole
time till broke could see and hear nst the sher-
lit did he taller and bundled up, could not see
his tace would not swear that he made any remark
was SO placed as to hear him had he done so heard
him that the papers taken from the sheriff by an
overwhelming force think Big Thunder said they
dismissed and told them to open to the right and
into The ring by him not know who is' the man
who acted as Big Thunder never saw the prisoner
before nor don'r know him should think Big Thunder
taller about and halt inch sndlbrosder the
shoulders have the prisoner walk out Of the court
house. that's ALI would not swear they are not the
james YouNa sworn-I was at Copake and Big
Ihunderwhen the papers were burnt knew Dr. B. be-
was present at some meetings he addressed the man
called Big Thunder differed considerable and was two
three inches teller and broader than DR. b. Dr. B. gener
ally walks stopped little Big Thunder very active
and walked straight up Isaw Big Thunder's eyes thro
the mask thought could the complexion and it
was sandy his voice was eood dasl louder than Dr.
BIS the efigy that cut to pieces don't
member whether Big Thunder there then at
derstOod Big Thunder to say" demand them papers
remember the sheriff said that he couldn't see the
nothing to etherhat there were copies Of them and he
could issue others think Little Thunder spoke and said
was customary for them in such cases to take the
tie Thunder, raised his hand, looked around and said
something-saying It was not customary for chief to
dsr hen spoke to the natives o give heed and said "a
hold up their right ~ hey did % .O and they were
not than up when the Sheriff unbuttoned his
to give three cheers in homer Of the sheriff who had
nounced himself as good antirensr any among
ihem and had complied with their requsons: then the
faces" requested to give three cheers and they
did the Sheriff. after giving up the papers, wished to
have understood that he did willingly but reluc
snty not at all through fear that he would not be afraid
If every pistol pointed at him that there: but be-
| cause he was met BY an overpowering force was
enough both places hear all that took place;
did not see pistols pointed at the Sheriff was very
anxious to see all that going on it was new to me- and
violence that day against the Sheriff any other
have seen him since that here in Hudson between the
tnoa afe ekoC oL~n . nAa Iy~vlH
Mr.. JoRDAN-What did the Sheriff say to you'
/ ATTORNEY GErKRAL-l object to this. W
versation outside. cannot be admitted in evidence.
Mr. JoRpAr-I contend it can sir propose to impeach
narrations Of the same subject III am not allow to ask
| the witness, propose to call the Sheriff -
ArroRrEY GEsERAL-No sir; nor that either this wit
The Counr consulted short time and agreed to allow
Mr. Jordans mode determination, to which the Attorney
WIrrru-I stood by the window at the time the sher
III got into the room at Sweets: the Sheriff stood with
his back towards the window and Big Thunder the
opposite sde did not any pistols pointed at the She
riff any where that day: don't recollect of seeing Dr.
CrosserSm;nea~i was not For ever was dressed in In
dian style they call IL: don't know that there
vote taken about the papers: don't think
direct examination: there taken from the
pale faces to have the papers took had business
there's the Sheriff was surrounded by in disguise
Dccker: he surrounded when the papers
manded stood at the back of the Natives: heard no
guns fred: they were not hsowng and whooping when
TheCourt took recess for dinner and assembled at
. O'Clock. Nm
J. YouNa again called-Formed no opinion az to the
size ofhat window in Sweets: could Big Thunders
eyes and eye wrinkles lips end beard: did not the
bar of his head and did not know whether he had >vhis
kers noticed his complexion az came from Deckers
not that know Of in the ring: he or did not speak to
each other that day: noticed no change in his mask
tvos but can't that did when the pale fsces
were called upon.
Sheriff MILLER called do not recollect any conversa
Il q q
JAMES Youso re ,rsmined-In the conversation had
with tue Sheriff he said he had nothing against the anti
renters: he did not say they were his friends.
JOHN A BAr, sworn.-Dr Boughton stopped at my
house ton the night before the Copake meeting: took
leaves the next time him in the afternoon
they burned the papers: they were busy with the egy
saw Boughon before my doors at this time in his natu.
raj Dress Beldng breskasted also that morning: saw
him again before night the same day; did not observe
that there was q chief, while they burning the
image was not doing much that was about the
ss.s e. e. paps a.
s% 70 be taller than Booshon esn how much ;. Gs.
there was one wagon load Of men in Disguise who SAID
they came from the North the. morning they came from
north direction they seemed o. II they came
horses, as it was cold did not see any Of these
or wagon before l think there were 1--WE or SIX,
| and only Of them disguised; did not know
them DR.. B. and Bedding had no baggage at my
house that know Of was not home the night they
cime; believe heard the name Of the person called
Big Thunder at the meeting two weeks before the CO.
pake nesting: did not them Engaged in
ton: don't know II they were known to each other:
two or three told me he was Big Thunder: they reside
north Of me; could not say they the same persons
they nearly Of size: neither Of these Big
Thundsrslwithont his disguse the who pointed
out to me, without disguise Big Thunder was not
Boughtou.
ABRAHAM AUSTEN recalled ~ noticed the boots Of the
man called Big Thunder, the day tho sherifs papers
taken; they strong kip boots thought he
was taller man by two inches than DR.. Boughton
and heavier he rather sreighter his head thrown
back little, and very active.
JOHN T. LAssEsswom-I was at the Copake meeting,
and waited on the Sheriff at table there were near do.
there: the sherif did not pay for his dinner be-
lieve told him the natives had said they'd pay for his
dinner had been acquainted with DR.. b. about two
years before that in Rensselaer, county had him
few times saw this man called Big Thunder: he
taller and stouer he appeared to be active:
him iudae from fhau0ht