The New York herald., 1845-03-28

thought Dr. B. was Big Thunder from all heard there
that day from him. from conversing with him and seeing
q man afterwards who represented Big Thunder: saw
Big Thunder several times thn day, and Dr. Boughton
several times, but when saw the one didn't see the
other 1.-THE same time: from such circumstances formed
an opinion they the same: Dr. B. was introduced to
me outside the ball room: saw him the front pazza
and in the bail room. and at the end of the little hall
where he came out and apologised: don't remember II
Or. b. when he was speaking held any papers in his
hands sat in the back seat the off side Of the carsge
the sheriff opposite, and Beldng beside Wheeler sat
the back too we talked about the anti rent dis
u Dances good part OF the along until we came to
Hucson: was examined here before the magistrates:
don't recoect ony conversation between Boughton and
the sheriff about his being abused st Copake may have
said examination that heard B. tell Miller the She
ect Of rentsm at the request of the citizens Of Cls
verack: ihave no recollection that swore, little ago.
to The conversation between B. and the sheriff in the
risge about the taking Of property might have reco
leced il then, but do not now.
Mr. JORDAN here proposed to read from the minutes of
examinations before the magistrates but the Court ruled
that although admissible would be better deer it till
its proper place.
Mr. District Attorney will hsre suggest the Court
that these examinations should be filed have clerk
who takes good care q the records and submit taey
would be in his charge in the pocket OF The
District Attorncy-this is the statute as can show
CoURr-The District Attorney says he will have them
here required, Mr.. Jordan
wrrEss-I do not recollect what Boughton was talk
ing Of when the Sheriff arrested him
the M the ne
indicate in any way, Dr.. Boughton he did not deny
confess he was at COpake.
ANTHONY AUSTIN sworn-I lived at Copoke Flats on
lh Of December bar keeper for Mr. Balm tavern keep
Boughton was there the night before: he lit
one else did not know they Stay there over night
saw them take breakfast there next morning about eight
o'clock saw them aext in the afternoon about four
left about ten o'clock next day. in one horse wagon
none were with them.
before and Boughton too both together and separately
Dr. had been about there for week believe his bu
address meeting that subject heard him speak once
at Copake nearly two weeks before.
Mr.. JoRDAN-What did he speak about Z.
ATTORNEY GENERAL submit that is not competent
CouRr.-I think not. What do you propose to show
Mr. JoRDAN.-It has been attempted to be shown from
TIE SssGner that he was endesvorng s raise
advised legal and peacsahls means ''''
The CouRT-What took place at a meeting two weeks
before is not relevant will note the objection
WITNESS i did not see any baggage with Boughton
then it Yves the ordinary hour for breakfast.
The DmIsIcr ATroaSrY objected to counsel asking
witness If he knew where Boughton was geing. The
Court sustained without the rule of evidence sus
cep'ih cf two constructions.
WITNESS saw them with the straw lighted: noticed
the individual called Big Thunder in the ring aw the ef
hgy burnt there Their chi took be the same
Thunder saw the first OF the disguised men about Is
O'Clock: was about three or four rods from them her
they were busy with the efisy looked at them very
short time: there were good number in the bar ycoyi
the window through which looked side Of tbs
took him to BE- Big Thunder 1t looked like him had
seen him before in the morning out on the square did
not notice particularly did not know the man never
did though: about O'Clock they cut the egy down off
Cross eramined-T think saw Big Thunder lat meet
ing at Copake before that don't know who Big Thun
was re-
his dress appeared different but his size aid
As same: ne ss this meeting two week: before. when
time he appeared from his size, gait, and figure to
be the man that before In disguise and that
man was not DR. Boughton did net know that man
zens dress he lived in Rensselaer, county when this
chief was cutting his fand.gocs about the egy Dr.
Boughton was in the har-room In citizens dress.
Direct rtsum.d.-Bg Thunder at the meeting two
weeks before the papers were taken. had light
der when he in disguise, and when he was not
saw him once since in Hudson he had a sort Of
e trimmed with nd Of co ns
it strikes when he was In disguise no more than one
person told me that he was Zig Thunder: don't know
Cross sramined-The ma, who told me about Big
Thunder said he from Rensselaer, county several
others from that part theeal strangers to me The
Court here arose for dinner.
At two O'Clock the Court seain sat, and
JOHN Bush was sworn-I am deputy sheriff in the
own Of Gallan: saw BouRhton the goth of Novem-
her in Mr. Frelgh's, in Gaain: had some conversation
with him: he asked me If was deputy sheriff. he
ting into the he introduced himself me: asked INV
name told him asked him by what name should
him and ne lied he told in
with him in the wagon-tha is NJ c. Beding he said
his business there to addess meeting there that he
rad been in several Of the towns and had formed commit
tees to act in the strent sness he spoke about the
titles OF the Lvingstons sn ssd they had land in
than they had ttbs for: he asked me If had
distress warrants in my hands lately collect rents?
told him had not for some time past: he then asked me
now thought would act called upon to act and met
with resistance: told him Icould tell better aer was
ried something that ect he then went on and said
to me would not be hurt bu it better If was Met to
nnk told him hat they wire getting up desDerste
Of fellows engaged in the mater about there: that some OF
them could not read nor wre and likely would be
eacaby as they might wait private papes he replied
they would not be desperate fellows, but gentlemen who
would act prudently: he spike about Rensselaer, county
where he Sherifs papers we're tsken without trouble or
injury, and the same mightbe the here: did not
na as wns sd be ss about gs "
nents and invited me to Brdeck, where there was 10
he meeting and older chiefs were expected
ne the he Tss
and went that afternoon 4 Dutchess county.
Bush am not psDnv shsr iSsspd Tar
farm for thirty years beore this had worked at car.
Of oastin about two yeas worked under man called
Glmor, and another cael schook, carpenter when
Gallatn kept drinking shop made some money
there there was no sanai9g IN my shop the people in
ny sncp useu .o s d % on p0n Pscs and re-
Deputy Sheriff: took the mail contract from w. Y
Chamberlain Of Union tentre he was one ef the Big
Team carried the msilfour years in July and carry Il
yet: in January, ls4I. began as Deputy Sheriff ire
quenty call in and do business in A. F Millers take
horn there very seldom get hot have spent very
little Of my time fox hunting for the last four years
dont attend horse races sr cock fights opposed to
them have farm, hit about Of real estate
with buildings on it. wnere reside; have been the
owner Of II six years tbs spring gave Ab r. Miller
si26 for IT. have little personal estate seoe or 5000
perhars consisting ofa prse wagon, harness. sleigh
couple OF COWS, and the test in notes.
The CouRr stopped thb examination into the mans cir
cumstances, as waste d time.
Mr. JoNpAr-f want tc try him particularly 90 he
was one fihe party. know what am about
CouAr-Undcubtcdly, md We will see that we know
what we are about. Wen note your objection.
Mr. JoRpAy replied that he wanted to mpesch the ev
d'ncs es thst OF man Who had property occups-
uon--who was idle helfand drunk half Of his time
The Cousr-You can't prove that in this case, for the
wtnsss has been examined on these points.
WirNsss--I was never sworn this subject before;
vas not At Copaks buf heard heard of the arrest
o boughtcn was IN hudson hen he was brougL, in;
saw gr At many citizens among them n Miiler
stad there from Wednesday till saturday was doiag
nj " I.