Weekly national intelligencer. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1841-1869, 1845-04-26
DEBATES ON OREGON.
IInJTcp ON nDnG 49, NJ


Lord CLARESpoS introduced the subject of the Oregon
ernory order to elicit from the Government nforma
ton relations with the United States upon this ques
on and the intended pursue Con-
gess, acting upon the expressed opinion of the President
should proceed take possession of the country
to the United States His lordshp, after briefly noticing
the conduct of America towards Texas and the extraordinary
which Mr. Polk had declared the unequvoca right
the United States the whole territory tempetey
the grounds which the British claims founded and
cuded by expressing his anxious hope that while whaeve
could be Justly claimed should be readily conceded the Gov
snmcnt would shrink from viacatng if necessary thu
uation , honor, OF uprrrurrg t..v.--.r ss'+-
The Earl of ABERDEEN. think is perfectly natural tina
such conuncure hs the present. the noble lord may rea
sonaby expect TO receive such information from her Majesty
Government they in the discharge of their duty may fee
possible TO give am farrfrom obectng TO the
putting questions the Government upon any matter Of pub
lie Importance and certainly Of such paramount
interest this. My lords if followed my own inclination
this NATTER should be disposed to lay on the table
of the House every part of the negotiation which has taken
place upon this subject from the period Of the treaty of Wash
lngton up to the present day. that if did so
should not only receive from the candor of my noble friend
opposite opinion approving the which has been pur
sued but might fairly appeal TO the public large, and even
to the whole of Europe for its confirmation time may
come when such course may possibly be necessary. AT
present it would clearly be unsuitable and mpolc could
wish for opportunity to explain little at length the
of this question, affects the interest and the claims of
this country to the disputed territory The noble lord has
cursoy described the claims Of this country and Of the United
States with sufficient accuracy, far he has gone They
however, would admit of much detailed examination
and although might enter into that examination with
injury the public service, feel that could not do
without inconvenience to your ohps and this also think
it better to defer future occasion SHALL therefore, only
address myself to the inquiry of my noble friend. wish TO
that the negotiation which has taken place. and which is
still pending upon this subject commenced Immediately
after the signing Of the treaty by my noble friend
Without OF course, explaining to your lodshps any OF the
steps that have been taken in the progress of that negotiation
wish to draw your attention to the last act of the late Pre
dent before his retirement from Office The Senate of the
United States having addressed Mr. Tyler long ago the
month of December requesting him communicate with them
and inform them to the progress Of this negotiation, Mr.
Tyler in his answer which delivered until the 10Th
Of February, states "In my opinion this negotiation is
still pending the information sought for cannot be commuu
Gated without prejudice the public SERVICE but deem
proper add that considerable progress has been made in the
negotiation, which has been carried in very amicale
spirit between the Governments, and that there
hope that may be brought close within short period
have delayed answering the resolution of the Senate under
the expectation expressed my annual message that the
collation. would be terminated before the close Of the present
session. and that the information called for by that resolution
might be communicated am bound to say that think the
late President took somewhat too favorable view Of tire state
of the negotiation when he made that the Senate
At the time, indication Of a friendly feeling
and OF desire 10 bring il TO amlcable termination,
such declaration OF opinion must be highly satisfactory
My lords IN fortnight aiter The delivery oil this answer TO
the address Of the Senate the President made the
gura speech referred by my noble friend wish OBJ
that this speech Is address made Congress
speech made TO the public The Congress being sit
ting no speech the kind could be made by the President Of
the United States without drawing towards il the serious
attention Nevertheless does possess the importance Of
official document il be regarded forming part Of
legislative proceedings DO undervaue its importance
but must observe that has quite the character Of an adj
dress made the Congress the foundation of any legsa
tive have already mentioned that that declaration
Of the late President is the last of which have any
knowledge, far the negotiation is concerned The new
President had no Ministry the time he made his speech
His Administration formed, and communication
had taken place between Der Msesy Ministers and any Go
venment OF the United States the resignation of the late
President and Of his Administration We Therefore stand pre-
cisey in the position in which stood at the time Of the
swer Of the late President with the exception Of such cha
acter the relation may have received from the speech pro
nounced upon his Inauguration by the President. My
lords, wish also to state that position precisely such
has been for the last eighteen years. with respect
rights, and the treaty which made in 1927 renewing,
rather continuing the treaty Of 1915 which for years
be treaty Of ls27 continued that treaty for indefinite pc
od but with the provision that either party might terminate
10y years notice. There is nothing whatever prevent
the Government Of the United States her Maesty Govern
ment they thought proper, from terminating that treaty Of
1877 by giving years notice for the purpose which, how
ever, the President has not said he give but If he
does mean i, he cannot effect his purpose without Of
tbs congress authorizing him 10 do the Congress will
meet pPs specially called together, until the month Of De-
cember anf even then the treaty expire without
years notice being gwen from the time which the President
receives the necessary srthory TO give such notice Your
lordshps will see, therefore, thai in point Of time the matter