The New York herald., 1845-01-06

tore feel tndt 6tdhu III q postlOn oi SIcdt re-
feel all the Importance Of the
position when, before this numerous audience. |
this evening, when undertake to prove the truth
and divinity Of the doctrine Of Purgatory. For if
the church could not sustain this doctrine, by very
high, and noble, and orthodox arguments and mon
uments of past history, the church would de-
serve to be censured and condemned for attempt
ing to palm it on the credulty and superstition Of
the Catholics. But if she can prove she takes it
from Christ himself, that it has been taught by
the Apostles and their successors, and that it has
always been regarded as canonicaI dogma in the
Catholic church-then am right; Imay be sure
am justfable not only in delivering this doctrine,
but in vindicating and incu!cating II before this
community We belevehst sin will bepunished in another
world unless that sin be sufficiently atoned for We believe
that to the sin there IL always attached temporal punish
life to come and this belief establish upon what is ad
mitted by all denominations First that was In conse
he evils which have descended on the poserty Of Adam
have been affected them there are therefore, tempo
raj punishments, consequent on sin We bslieve like
Davids sn remtted still he was compelled to under
20 temporal punishment In consequence Of It, which
And the child born in original sin although nneceBtof
every sn after Is purified By the waters Of regene
ration and baptismeven that child was heir OF the
temporal punshments although that sin
may be forgiven Now II the punirhment due to sin be
not forgiven in this life we believe there place be-
expation. We bseve there therefore middle place;
neither heaven nor hell, because We believe Of course
and therefore, when say this middle place exists It is
contrary to the text where the tree falls there
10 ns Be- o.
names we contend for the substance Whether you
call it purgatory or middle state OF middle place
Of temporary punishment in future life. not
But II essential we believe that thero such place,
no msttsr By wat term ths' isee may he As.snstsa
is not found in the sacred Scriptures. But what
does this proven Because We cannot Hnt the
follow that the doctrine il not found in scripture hs
be the case cannot fad the word trinity IN the sacred
scriptures and yet shi: term has been sd:ptsd by the
Of the church which almost all denominations believe to
be contained in the scriptures There il is not fc-
With regard tc lis locality any objection which might be
made to on that ground would be perfectly unpho.o-
locality Of pursssory neither can the believer q eternal
punishment do 20 OF hell the believer Of future
rewsrds do 50 Of heaven and yet we believe hell and
heaven exist We cannot define the position Of either
one or the other nor can OF purgaory or the middle
state but this Is opposed than not being
there has existed middle state. and that this middle
state has been revealed to in the sacred scrptures
the wSch va. nehsr
nor hell where tho souls Of certain persons who died
previously TO his cruci6xion detained, and that
place II by the Catholic church termed limbus Now
how prove there existed such piece From the
rsEpise Of Peter, chap. 18th snd 10Th Be-
for the unjust that he might bring God being put
to death IN the hesh but quickensd by the spirit ~
prison" Now where was this prison He Certainly
did not presch to the spirits in hell for out of hell
,hsrs ): no redemption then he descended into
in the words Of the creed and st. Peter says what
spirits in prison." Now what you may call II care not;
but there middle place pointed out by g. Peter, and
sbsurdity impossbity in saying there at the pre-
sent day middle place. H. them there might exist such
place. then those christians who opposed doc.
authorized in charging US with holding abominable
doctrine for what might be true il not subject to the
then forces itself upon us"Can we pray for the spirits
Of the departed p The Catholic church says "Yes; 60
and bend over the bier Of your departed brother and
the rspose.of his departed spirit devout prayer; for
in the language Of Judas Maccsbeus "It is therefore.
dead that I they may be ioossd from shsr sin
Now, ~ for other denominations 10 forbid for you to
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nunicstion with them s cut OF this side the grave
One therefore contradics the other and bshoves
church holds this beautiful and consoling doctrine Of
praying for the souls Of the DEPARTED in the hope Of
for departed WIFE, departed friend, or brother Any
denomination who would attempt to deprive me Of that
holy pleasure and consolson would deprive me Of that
Away: the the a although in Ss
tious indeed believing, snd perhaps influenced by
no holy motive in preaching H.; still. ! must
regard Is any other doctrine Of the Christs religion
when the doctrine first introduced into the Church
II ysu believe the 22d and 9Sd Of King Edwards and
70 hs % the s hat ie ed
the schoolmen, and Of priests vanly invented, and
grounded on no warrant Of Scripture but rspusnsnt to
said that the doctrine Of Purgatory doctrns Of the
.choolmen but by the article Of Elizabeth stated TO
by these articles Is inculcated that the doctrine Of
Purgatory was invented by the Romsh Church. that II
has no warrant in Scripture and s rcpugnant to the
word Of God. Now II these articles be true I sm
teaching forbidden doctrine, and one repuGnant
to the Holy Scriptures, and the Catholic Church. who
s ss
immediately to abandon that Church. because would
not remain In her communion. Therefore becomes me
not merely for the purpose Of arsu the subject
much to convince myself as others that m grounded
BE q s c
The text which quoted taken from the second book
ofthe Maccsbess Now am aware am met on the very
right whatever to quote that book And why7 "Be-
cause that book s not counted portion Of the inspired
wrngs" or the canonical writings, In other words,
that that book belongs to those called Apochry-
phsl The question, then, ID this" Have 4 right
to quote in vindicsion Of this doctrine the passsge
to this reply: either these books are canonca or they
are not canonca there cen be objection to this posi-
tcn for any Christian who listens to vii! assent 10
this proposition they portion OF the csnon
cal divinity, inspired Scripture or they not they
are to be accounted portion Of the Sacred Writings,
The docss o us for hs dssa i beyond III dispute
for they asr that "t good and wholesome houghtt to
pray for the dead 30. this Scripture s prcvedto be
exist middle place, for il pray for the deed did
Judas Msccsbsus cannot be for the damned neither can