The New York herald., 1845-10-20

blasts all hopes for the Navy, Bainbridges manner
when excited remarkable; and this OCCASION
all occasions when his indignation was aroused with
a vehemence which mpeded his utterance he sxclaim.
ed Unto, unto, you will ruin the Navy if such be It's
destiny" This paper contained the orders which had
just been drawn for Commodore Rogers not to leave the
waters of New York with his naval force
We then entered the Secretarys room, and were re-
ceived by him with much kindness OF Mr.. Ha
milton observed that declared, and that he
glad to see us there had been decided by the Pres
a Of the
they would be useful there in defending the city and its
adjacent waters from attacks Of enemy that guns
were to be taken from nde Of the ships and landed at
the batteries and whsrves to which the officers and
could eventually retreat and there their in
case they could longer fight in the ships. To these
arrangements for the guns feasible they might
appear to pers0ns unacquaned with the mode OF using
guns board of ship urged objection respect.
ing their carriages and management with tackles for
which there were no convenonces the wharves or
| batteries,-and expressed and dsappoint.
ment in learning from him. well by the orders pre-
pairing for Commodore Rogers squadron, that other
disposition to be made of naval force than for
been declared against England, wide and glorious
field would be opened to the Navy that to meet and
and WHERE other nation had been heretofore able
to cope successfully, was object of such high
en5d ~ent to III the ~ American Navy that we still hoped it
there will be no difficulty in meeting them but to
conquer men so practsed in naval warfare, proud of
their long glorious and distinguished services may be
found difficult do wish disparage little Ma
W. but compared with the British Navy il must be
sdered in its infancy unpractsed the mdshipmens in
experienced, seamen unaccustomed to blood and
battle in the carnage of action they might become
ana nch and IN case o. an accident to the
lie continued: In contest, man, and gun to
with the most expert and best trained naval force
that ever existed, in constant practice and with expe-
rence Of IS years. how hope to be successful in
battle with them7 With every confidence in the skill
not be forgotten that the British Navy has triumphed
over all the noves Of Europe and Of nations too long
skilled and practsed in maritime warfare"
We did our best to these searching remarks of
the Secretary and what said seemed to make deep
impression upon him He rose from his chair, and OBJ.
served that he would il the President leisure
in order that we might communicate to him, person,
the views and information had just forth few
Mr. Madison. Mr. Hamilton desired as, for the informa-
ton OF the NO the questions he proposed
70 put to US Mr. Madison asked questions, but lis.
tened to what said then rising, he addressed Mr.
Hamilton and said they ought not despair Of Navy;
still its conduct in the Revolutionary war and since ad
monished them that 1t would do its duty Yes, SIR
said, it will )" and added. with the energy his
ging words inspired be assured that eight
out OF every ten with anything like an equality of
force will result in victories for country But sir
captured the numbers of the enemy SO vastly exceed
own that after successful encounter part
fresh ships may come up while in crippled
state and capture them, and retake their own" To
these remarks Mr.. Madison replied, " 1t is victories
want fyou give US them, and you lose your ships af
forwards, they can be replaced by Others" He then in.
formed Mr. Hamilton that he would assemble his Cabinet
at o'clock that evening, and submit the subject
for their reconsideration with the information
he had received from Late that evening awaited
Mr. Hamiltons return to his house. He informed to
our extreme disappointment that all change in the dis
position of vessels of war had been over-rued-Mr
Monroe being the only member Of the Cabinet that
occasion wh9 advocated the ships being sent to sea
in office, unacqnainted with the service the officers and
men, and much that would be useful to him. that when
he considered the smallness Of naval force the
merous enemy tha. would soon coast, the
rigid bocksdes that would be instituted Of ports and
these circumstances deferred him from urging the
measure IN Council with the energy he would have
done had things been otherwise that he was fully
nevertheless there many strong exist
ing in his mind against the results being favorable
we all could DESIRE that his conscience would
acquit him it, by sending vessels sea, the germ
Of our navy should be lost He expressed hope that
we would not leave w ashington for few days, he
wished advice in reference other
ted with the navy. We took our leave and returned
| to the hotel under melancholy excitement created
by cur unsuccessful efforts to get the vessels Of
| to sea
We entered Bainbridge's room, when he observed to
me that he had understood in Philadelphia that was
building vessel for privateer that if no!
permitted to to in the service, he should like to
take part and command her, if did not intend to go
myself; but if going in her he would take half
and 60 with me, and We would command alternately,
New York, blockaded there in frigas during the
war. In such case he would relinquish the command
throw up his commission. told him did not intend
going 10 her myself and that he should be welcome to
| the command OF her on the terms mentioned. This
proposition made by Bainbridge in a moment Of ex.
| citement
The prvateer referred to by Mr.. Ingersol was then
BY contributing my mite annoying the &c enemy @
all good citize had right to do was the OF
onehal of this vessel lost about eleven thousand
dollars in the enterprises she captured four days
after leaving Delaware Bay. She was pursuing at the
an ansn S ou. by two ass
the wndward and the other to the ieeward they gave
chase and she successfully through the re Of
hYff nriya
sails down by the fire Of the latter merely
cite this incident evidence that had something
serting her rights and defending her honor and to
show that fortune" and livelihood" assigned by Mr.
not wantsd though fams AND distinction" @ aT' wsre
and thus ends the affair Of the Snapper commanded by
cap, wnn1d reI1egrns annss Green, se .,,. !, 49,. !.
the motives which Mr.. IngeIso imputed to cambridge
and myself for urging the Executive send ships
& TO
have sought fortune through plunder aud without much
object prvaeersmen have visw-b Ut piunder alone
we could nave thus easily gratiea our desires We
nothing to be had in the national vessels OF that
that characer-for Congress had already closed the
door to prize money by the application Of one-half
other half to prize expenses and double duties
discriminating our efforts and remonsrances Of
that day had terminated unfavorubly, Banbridge
still determined not to relinquish the great object He
declared we must not let the matter rest where
But appeared to me case almost hopeless; and we
the higher authorities lest opportunities should be
regarded as meritng censure; and particularly after il
had been twice deliberately decided in cabinet council
not 10 send the chips to and after special
views had been laid before them He proposed that
should address written PAPER to the President himself
as he cherished hope that from his manner and express
sons at our interview during the morning, he not
unayorable to the vessels being sent to but had
yielded to his Cabinet. About clock that night we
had prepared rough draft Of letter to the President
and retired for the nght but such was the impaence
cambridge that ne returned to his labor and prepared
fair copy, which found ready for my signature at
breakfast time On signing it, remarked to him. that il
the President did not receive in the good part
was intended should both be cashiered He replied
: would rather be cashiered than to be Port Captain
during the war" He then enclosed the letter in pri
vate letter to the Secretary Of the Navy and we pro-
ceeded to the Department. [See note d
Mr. Hamilton read the letter, but declined conveying
which he considered objectonable that couched
In dictatoral terms and reflected upon the members Of
the Cabinets that with the best feelings towards he