The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1845-11-21

Baptist General OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES Session.
SECOND DAY.
| The Convention was opened yesterday morning,
at the Mulberry street Tabernacle at o'clock,
with prayer after which the minutes Of the previous
day were read and approved
The CHAIRMAN announced that the first business in
tss tbs alterations S in s constou
Rev Mr.. LUDLOW wished to know what necessity
there was for any alteration at all The report Of the
committee, il adopted, amounted 10 an abandonment of
the old ship that had carried the missionary safely
for thirty He fearful Of the consequences,
and hoped there would be alteration. He therefore,
submitted the following resolution =
/" Resolved That we will not at this time alter the
Constitution Of the Baptist Triennal Convention
Dr. Cow said the consideration of the report had been
made the order of the day and the proper would
be to take up the first article in the proposed constitu
ton, and then the gentleman might make his amend
ment and take the OF the meeting in relation to
whether there should be any alteration.
After some further discussion, motion made to
proceed to the consideration othe first article Carried
The first article in the new constitution reads fol-
lows =
This association shall be led The American Bap
fist Missionary Unon.'"
Rev. DR.. CoSE said he wished to make few remarks
before the question was put No plan can be fra
med by mortals without mperiections, The best
ceved plan in the world would fail unless they carried
it out in spirit Of Cancellation and kindness In the
hope that the 100000 debt would be paid and $4,000
$4,000 raised yearly for expenses the committee had
proposed this measure. We no longer Convention
Of the Bsptists Of the United States for the Southern
portion have separated from u.s. and formed missionary
society OF their 1t is necessary to change the
name, and Union" has been adopted in the hope that it
will unite all who have the cause Of missions at heart
We want TO avoid all difficulty, and not allow Mason
and Dixon's line to split us asunder Our difficulties
have baen owing to the nature Of our organization By
changing it. and having the Union" composed entirely
of life members, who pay 500 each, and entitled to
one vote, we shall have unanmity. Our only object is
missions. We have nothing to do with sectional feelings
or preiudces The life member has nothing to do with
slavery aboltionsm, and they must change their
stituton if they wished success In regard to the char
ter it of little value, beyond its recognition of trea
ties with Indians They proposed calling on the Legis
lature of Massachusetts for new one
Rev. Mr. ARTHUR thought the terms Of admission too
liberal; any body could become member by paying
500. Unversasts Unarians if they would furnish
enough money, might control the society The South,
OF its action in relation to slavery might send members
here with 500 and we should be obliged to give them
and why not now' The object, however appeared to be
to get $40 900, and waive the question The time must
come, though when it must be settled.
Rev. DR.. CoSE now remarked that several members
had been robbed last night by Pckpockes and he hoped
Rev Mr.. BENNETT said he several of them last
their father. Uaughter)
Rev. Mr.. CHURCH said, we have arrived at very i'm.
erested his people in missions individuals, who had
many faults, and variety Of contradictory opinions
sonary spirit in his youth Some years ago Columbian
College was at time connected with this Conven
discussion took place and much dcuy occurred
He had often wondered whether this excitability
tain topcssnslayery, temperance, &C., could not be
airy operations without these disturbing nfuences2
They were not all perfect in regard 20 the claims of
were many there who differed as to their Of
the claims of the divine laws but could they not let
these questions stand in allegiance while they pushed
forward the ark d the Lord by promoting the cause of
missions? Could they not find some place whore this
principle, love for missions, might supremely and
alone be regarded where minor distinctions might for
time be lost sight OF; where technicalites might give
place to principles and feelings and where all might
glorious. heavenly
project? He went for the resolution.
Rev. Mr. CoLvER, Of Mass, said he abolitionst
he might have been misrepresented He had never seen
the moment when he held his slavery views above his
slavery had got into tho engine Wheels and had made
needless efforts to remove it, he regretted it. But
on that e em
working harmoniouslv But he thought the title unfor.
tanate The word American was too wide-it covered
ground occupied by the South tcoud strictly be said
that it would be the American Baptist Union because the
equally frank with the course pursued BY the Sou
hern brethren who had adopted the title Of Southern
quite courteous to the Southern brethren
They had chosen ground and the North ought not to
and cover ALSO thought the title should either be
the Northern Baptist Union, or simply the Baptist Union
fthe remarks of the chairman of the committee meant
that had nothing to do with anything but missions he
must dissent; but he thought with little correction tn
report was good one.
Rev. Mr.. DowLING sadth brother who had last spoken
himself belonged to association calling itself Ameri
lne-he referred to the American AntSlavery Society.
Qaughter) twas better TO call it the American than
the Northern, for then if southern State broke loose
from slavery, there would be barrier to southern
association joining this body.
The question. was now loudly called for on the second
% The signal object of this Union shall be to duse
tho knowledge religion Of Jesus Christ by
Of MISSIONS throughout the world
DR.. COVE said the simple meaning Of the section
that the only business the convention should be that of
sending out missionaries with the Bible correctly trans
lated to present Christ and him crucfed He did not
that it could be made palmer If the missionaries depart
ed from the discipline faith of course the board would
take action As to the wording Of the section the
mittee went on the principle that the field the world
adopted.
The committee membership now reported several
The third section of the proposed constitution was
80. This Union shall be composed of life members
may be present at the adoption Of this constitution shall
be members for life of the Union. Other persons may
be constituted life members by the payment at one time
of not less than one hundred dollars"
Rev, Mr. CoLvER thought there was danger in this
city or State where the Convention was to be held
might by raising SO many hundred dollars influence the
proce edings Of the convention to an unsafe extent
Dr. CONE defended the section on the ground that 1t
was no more monied representation than under the
old constitution and he thought there less danger
from the present pan while the annual creation of life
members would raise more money. There had always
been difficulties about this membership Members were
answered, nothing more was heard Of them Their OBJ
ject was not the promotion Of MISSIONS but per-
sona or local object Now life membership would OBJ
viate this.
Rev GREEN, of Massachusetts, objected to the Bird
sentence, because 1t was too general He would have
members not only members Of churches, but sa
holders In this he represented tens of thousands of the
denomination The South had brought up the subject
by seeding as proslavery society; was the duty of
the North to form an antslavery union. Since some
Bapsts had become avowedly the advocates of slavery
Just SO did become this union TO protest against the
sin Of thus chattezing fellow beings lie should there
fore move to amend by saying ''membors OF Baptist
churches and not Shareholders y
Rev. Mr. BLAME, OF r. J., was sorry the subject had
been introduced They did not meet as pro.slavery
anttslavery convention, and that the South had
withdrawn and the board had clearly expressed
their views, he could ground for alarm. 1t would
be time enough to make this movement when danger
threatened The south would never introduce slavery