The New York herald., 1845-02-03

and which Yves 10 compute ths mileage by the shortest
puted by the mail roue,' which variei az different
times The amount by she shortest mail route would be
amply sufficient to cover ell expenses.
Mr. HousroN supported n.
Mr. DAVIS OF indiaas said If that amendment, prevailed
Il would require services OF half dozen of engineers
great isng,h Of time to determine which the
shortes, routes In addition to this objection, he thought
that this practice OF prospective economy was much 20 Or
deprsc aedf this measure and required by the
people, ought TO have been made applicable TO them
selves-thoy should not begin reform oy reforming ,hs
abuses OF their successors, nut should commence WIN
their own, naa
culy in 1sceaining the shortest mail route tNr uey
were AZ aaown al the department and coull DC ssoer
tanned b. Application there He had no "bjecuons per
sonally, 10 make the law applicable TO the present Con
gress but he would that the intention Of the present
Law was TO produce unit ormity for there were cases
where persons living within hundred miles OF each
other, made drenae OF three fout and nye nundred
miles III their charges He thought any aempt 70 make
the law applicable the present Congress- would only
defeat the bill entirely.
Mr. HorKr>s OF Va, said they had only two hours to
CONSIDER Oregon and he hoped they would lay this |
asie and proceed to the consideration of that qaeson
Mr. CoBB said, thai il were in order to move post
Mondsy- r. - '''' ' ~ ' " ~
qte spe.rSx-It is in order.
and on motion of
NJ, HorKrss OF va, the House resolved itself into
lion OF the bill for the establish ment ofa
rKRRrroRrAL oovsRrMsNr oREooN
Mr.. WELLsR, oil ONO. IN the Chair.
Mr wISrHRor, of Mass, had the aoor He thought
the whole discussion WIZ unwise and unreasonable He
uiu intehi 70 make ne salu aS
one at ths session by the sentiments expressed
which he was willing uow to abide H. thought we
should wait iar the termination OF the neRotiatona.
Mr. CAasr of Maine next Obtained the floor and spoke
in iavor oftae bill; and in reply 10 Mr. WINTHRor. he
speech which he had heard Hs said it was time for
them act and act decidedly upon this question: and not
sed by negotiation e went a, considerable length in.
to explanation of the Maine Boundary question, and
circumstances connected herewith.
Mr. MoRss, of Maine followed in support and vndca-
ton OF the Treaty settling the Maine Boundary. from
from whence he came bsck to Maine and the popular
will ani from that got the question of Oregon to
enable him 70 act upon which, he wanted the book which
had been ordered
Mr. HARDIN Of Ill spoke in favor Of extending the ju-
rsdiction OF the States, hut desired amendments to
give notice 20 terminate the joint occupancy and also
provide that laws should be interfere
with the joint right occupation until the expiration Of
the joint occupancy.
MR. KENSspr, of Indiana said he did not understand
chat the OF this bill would be necessarily giving
ofencet {, England that it doing any thing
for citizens han sho had done for her subjects We
had the right TO Oregon--no one would deny t-and he
said they did not do themselves justice would be br
cause they were eowards He condemned very severely
the conduct OF me bsrs, Americans who wound stand up
in that hail AMI pu; forward the glish arguments
this measurs He said if the gentlemen from Maine had
given no their land the whole country would have
ID by them but when the State had acceeded it he
thougst IT too bad they should come here and complain
because they hai been cheated by Yankeetrck. They
had their open in the westthey would not tand
clipping of Western Territory--No no That was
shown by the preceding gentleman, Nir. Hardin,
whig) WHO said he went for his country-for hid
try right wrong-why? because he western
He went decliinl against England in the
n,roagh going manner and said she would not do much
good m she got another thrashng from AT O'Clock,
the hammer descsnded. cutting short the honorable
ceaded 10 voc upon the Bill
Mr. wIsrHaor withdrew his motion to strike out the
fret clause.
Mr. ADAMS proposed, amendment. that the first
clause should give notice of the termination Of the joint
Mr.. A. v. BsowS asked for tellers, which were or
dered.
The reading of the amendment again called for and
ordered.
Mr. HAnDrs moved to add to it, "that nothing in the
act should be construed to interfere with the rights OF
joint occupancy till the expiration Of the notice"
Mr. c. lscERsoLL wished to know whether, If these
.dments passed. would be obligatory upon the
President to give the notice.
Mr. A BeowS 70 point Of r'er.
The CHAIRMAN said he decided that the amendment Of
Mr. H irdin in ordor
Mr. BaowS said it point of order the amend.
men OF tla gentleman from Massachusetts,.
Mr. HARDIN withdrew his amendment
Mr. Beows asked il it ia order to propose
amendment resolution which was before the House in
another shape, which was the with Mr. Adams.
The CHAIR decided TINT it was 10 order,
bill, extending the Jurisdiction Of the Uni'ed States
simple request the President TO do a certain thing
Mr. Ap made some remarks which the reporter could
no, hear.
The CHAIRMAN ove-rulsd the point of order
The question Mr.. Adams embodiment then taken
yeas II nays 81. s, it rejected
MIR. HAMNsrr, of Miss, ext offsre1 amendment to
Mr.. DUNCAN wished to know whether 1t would he obi
gaory upon the President u give this notce' Whether
he would 10 rot aud whether tue operation Of the bill
must b. postponed
CHnsMAv-The gentleman is out of order
Mr.. HrpsoS to ask If it would be in order to
large the area OF freedom by requesting members 10 take
their aests. Uaughter)
There great confusion existing this time in the
Hal, which was some time in sunsidng
Mr.. CoLL.MsR moved strike out that part of the is
section defining the limits Of the territory extend
ing "a 40 North Teers asked but not ordered
The question put and the amendment lost by large
others TO the Ave inc usve.
sir. WrSrHaor OF .Iass offered an amendment to the
9th section, providing that slavery involuntary
vitnde should not be permitted exist in territory
except in o He ed for telers which were
ordered. and resul'edYeas. e6 nays Sc SO the
msrt adopted
The other sections down to 2e were adopted without
amendment
To the soth ssction, Nr. A. v. 3sowr offered the fol-
lowing amendment as an addition, provided always,
that where my British subject resident or trad
ing In said Tsrrtory of Osgon shall be arrested charg
ed with the commission If any m.demeanor felony
the shall be delivered nearest tribunal
OF the British G,vernmsnt having jurisdiction over the
offence This provision not TO apply after the period OF
twelve m,nth, from any notice whch may be given by
tho United states contemplated by the third article oi
the Convention now subssng between the two countries
in relation TO said territory" Adopted.
The sections down to 80 were adopted without amend
ment
To the 40,h section Mr. HAmMErr offered an amend
mint providing that titles should be issued until the
Indian title was extinguished This he withdrew for the
folio Wing one offered by Mr.. A. v. Brown of Tenn.
Provided always that the oture grants Of land contem
plated by this act shs be subject to the settlement any
dispute now pending between Great Br ain and the Uni
ted States, in relation to their respective claimsn
Mr OWEN moved ss an amendment also that it should
dians" :. is was accepted by Mr.. BRowN, and adopted
by the committee.
The 4st section was adopted without amendment
Mr.. BRowr offered the following additional section
And whereas, by convention into between
His Britannia Majesty and the United Of America
it stipulated and agreed, any country on the
coast of America to the stony
Mountains should be free and open the ctlze and
subjects of the two powers being Competent however
to ther OF the contracting in either should
think ft al any time alter the Goth OF 1893 nm
giving due notice of weve to the other CON Yac
ing arty to annul and abrogate this convention Be Il
therefore enacted that nothing in this shall he 40
construed to close obstruct
and creeks or the navigation OF rivers within the terri
toria limits oil the territory hereby organized any rart
o the airy that be claimed by party on the
northwest coast OF America, between the 4ld deg and
81 deg 40 min Of norh latitude against toe vessels
citizens and subjects OF reat Britain agreeable to the
prsvi ions Of the article of the OF a0h Oc
bsr 1873 between the United states Great Britain