The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1844-01-19

III the House Of Representatives., Friday, January ,
lSi4-On the 2lst rule
on GEORGIA

| mittee-
Mr.. BLACK said he should vote for the motion of
the gentleman from Virginia TO recommt; but he
desired To amend the motion, Ii he was in order IN
dong So for the purpose Of bringing The House To
test the question, which was all important TO the
Southern portion Of this country. lie proposed 10
amend the motion Of the gentleman from Virginia oy
the addition OF Instructions 10 that committee TO re
port the 2ls rule of the last Congress as one OF The
rules OF this House.
| THE Clerk, at the request OF the gentleman from
Georgia, read the rule TO which he referred. IL was
the old Dist rule The subject Of abolition petitions
| in the following words
mo pet,iion memorial, resolution, or other pa
per- praying the abolition Of slavery in the District
of Columbia any State or Territory, or The slave
trade between The States or Territories oil the Uni
ted States in which II now exists, shall be received
by this House, or entertained in any way whatever"
Mr. BLACK proceeded to say, it was useless to mnce
this matter. Sir said he understand that Tie rule
lust read by the Clerk omitted IN the report OF the
committee and my purpose IN moving TINS insirae-
iion is to test the o this House question Of
vital importance 10 the interests | represent ! do
this upon consultation with man, but IN obedl-
to obligations which paramount to all other
considerations and, upon the motion TO instruct,
ask for the yeas and nays
Mr.. GI, MER rose to question Of order. He
tended that the report Of the Select Committee
Rules was no more privileged question than the
port OF any other committee If in this he right,
the subject was improperly before House, and the
motion Of the gentleman from Virginia, Mr.. Drom-
goole and the amendment of the gentleman from
Georgia, MIR Black, were both out Of order He
regretted that there much excitement in rela-
ton TO this subject at this time. lie had been two
years member of the House, and he never before
heard the language Of defiance boldly used il
had been this day. He hoped this report would take
IFS proper place the Speakers table and when
came up in order, the motion and its amendments
would be in order.
MIR. BLACK desired to say few words in reply to
the gentleman from Virginia, He had not expected
reproof from that quarter
Mr.. GILMER SAID he had not the gentleman from
Georgia in his mind when he spoke He allud-
ing TO gentlemen the other side.
Mr.. BLACK. Sir, am glad the gentleman from
Virginia has made this explanation. But, MIR. Speak
er, without reference TO what that gentleman has
SAID ceiiinly did intend, by the motion have sub
mitled to defy certain persons to whom il would not
be IN order TO refer by name. | meant 10 def the
majority of the committee, if it be their intention to
report sci of rules differing in this essential par
ucuar from those which governed the 26th and 9th
Congresses | meant to defy the majority OF this, or
any other House, if they int nd TO adopt these rules
emasculaied as they have been by the committee
repeat that defiance now and when it is urged on
me to Keep cool, my only reply is, that my constitu
| enis would be mortified and indignant if, when their
rights are invaded here, should sit silently by and
| keep cool
Mr.. CARROLL called the gentleman 10 order. He
asked whether 1t was IN order to bid defiance TO
committee Of the House
Sir, said Mr.. BLACK do no, intend TO be out of
order; nor will intentionally embarrass the House
or the Chair If shall transgress the order of de
bate, the Speaker will ret right, and will en-
deavor 10 go on in order My purpose simply to ask
for the yeas and Lays upon my notion and TO
| submit that record to the public eye )" and in do
ing SO, must be permitted to say that if | were TO
exhibit on this occasion, that degree Of c0oiness
which gentlemen seem SO solcitous TO impress upon
me-a GOODNESS prompted perhaps by some motive
nj n1,ny tha Il
acceptable | might render myself to certain po
litical interests, | quite sure such calmness
and indifference would be anything but gate
full to those whom | represen'. Gentlemen NAV
II they think proper ,rea, this as question Of poll
cy, and coniradislingush il from IT, cipie and they
may Indicate, by their here, that policy is to
have priority over principle IL there be such com
binations, and purposes TO accomplish, with what
ever view, know them not, and will have nothing
10 do with them. For myself, have high duty 10
perform, regardless of considerations Of mere party
expediency; and that duty will perform fearessly
al least, and indept ndeny Of lrammes or discipline
Of any sort.
Sir, if could he so lost to a proper sense of the OBJ
legations which rcston me, as to witness these attacks
upon the interests Of the South with a coolness
amounting 10 Indifference should forfeit, as ought
the confidence with which the people of Georgia have
her tjiore honoIed ne. What, let me ask is the oc-
caslon Of the excitement which confess feel A
majority ofthe Committee on Rul has reported to u
code for the government Of the federal legislation Of
he country which will permit the inc, ndlary ab lI
ZIONIST, with treason IN bis heart and lie on his
tongue, TO walk into this House and dsy after dsy vi
lify rsduce, and Insult the whole constituency oftbe
South Shall remain quiet, AID Keep cool when this
thine u being accomplished under my very eye Sir
when The South is laid cold I, too, will be so but
not until then.
Mr. GuMER asked if The gentlem,n fam C,,o,,i,
alluded To tim.
Mr.. BLAoG. The recent explanation Of the gentle.
mao from Virginia exclude him from my allusion.
was saying for myself independently of any man thai
! would not and could not kSsp cool when p,,p,ra.
lions are making here in very midst 10 de troy
The only restraint ON these irie nd of human liberty
VINO are TO be let loose in til. Hall to assail with al
the weapons of fslsebood and ,iiuper,ton In. in.i
,u IONS and Interests am here TO n,an and defend
NO ST. VIII permit Considerations of IN, re par,y
Polcy to deter me from a plain palpsbe immedi. &.
decision OF this qutsOn. | approach il with the me
Wsress DETERMINATION, and upon the came inf rhlr
principle otngh with which shall approach the other
s'o" questions winch aNide and agitaie the coun-
try, aud IN laiion TO which my cons, ia, n,s eY
pect me 10 do my duty 10 them. without consultino
the 'lic'l Interests Of any man or trucking 10 the
temponzlng policy ofp rty managers
res, SIR 10 utter de fance N the pruden ia eon.ile
rsuons winch, itom certain quarter ad,ponisb m,
to Keep cod, come forward and bec,re ,I,is Uon .
ana the country, demand an omen Immediate
suaghtiof"ard decision of this absorbing oue. tion
u ue majority here - against and those W no are
10 ,.r US ave against us) desire TO know il; | de-
=. - 49,, ~ ~ w. mere 10 Know ", and the soon
" 'no peusr. But, MI. Speaker will not believe
''m .ns no sol Representatives, in which we have
'D'n'crslc majority Of more than sixty woes i.
ssa'ns' US on tbs question of abolition Shall by
Hinnp'uing TINS motion, evidence a suspicion thai
ns Rouse Is not TO be trusted that the ma,rity are
aooo, 70 pay game with this question fhat,bey
's''pne 70 pacy the abolnonists by the reccr-
on VI 'ef Peuons, end thus secure their vote. ,pJ
nnuenee 10 Ia I've contest for power and Mace ,eIv
np ,ne whhe, upon the supposed RulbIlity of the
oou,n hopn a to Keep her generous and con6J;n,
peop'e 20 the ranks, with sir promises and
uJ 'ne lneiFed'ency Of mmediaf, abolition