The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-01-20
NEW YORK. SATURDAY MORNING, JANUARY co. 1914.

risk as the building of the way he lived at that
time in New York; have known him for two three
wears; have renewed policies for him property
which he held mortgages; correspondei with, or
received any letters from him entered the policy on my
register but did not make it OUT never heard that he
had insured that particular property before nor did know
he was the owner until he called at the oihce went
alone view the premises; valued the house at $500
am the agent for the Hartford Insurance Company.
Odd you communicates in any way with the prisoner
the subject Of the burning -,
Al saw Marsh, day or two before ms arrest; ne u
mand the insurance. did he make statement oil
his loss under OATH which is required Immediately alter
the burnng is necessary in that affidavit to state that
the burning not caused by any act oil ms also me
amount of the loss generally require two or three a
davs; have obtained the receipt which gave Marsh,
from him at New York day previous to his ar
he sent for the messenger was Gerge H. vernon
brother in-law OF Marsh previous 10 sensing ior me
had asked Vernon where Marsh was he did not tell me
was anxious him Vernon said he would go down
with to Marsh; SO told him would go the follow
ing morning; accordingly went down by the iran on
the way down, Vernon impaired to me the whereabouts
of Marsh; we found him ut No 100 Bedford street. N. VI;
Marsh mentioned to the burning, and asked me what
the people said about it think the conversation was in
troduced by him told him there great excitement
among the people, in consequence OF the family being
bunto death he todme the frat he had heard OF il
the Sunday morning after the fire, from his uncle Sill
cox it in the newspaper; heard that the arbitrator
had met and had given the award against him; heard
this from Gershsm Cheddick the morning after the fire.
il the subject Of conversation among the people OF
the place; spoke OF this award against him. and asked
how he to get it insured in his name he replied
had informed the arbraors that for some
other they had valued Cheddicks property too high told
him the agency would dispute his claim for damages he
made any used the argument that the property be-
longing to Gersham Cheddick; further told him that
understood that deeds had been exchanged he replied that
they had not but that they were in the hands Of Mr. Day
he attorney and that not intending to abide blythe award,
he thought he had right to insure it; after urging it
upon him. he gave the receipts he appeared TO be
very much troubled; think he was aware that he was
charged with the burning of the building and that there
was variant out for his arrest he said he intended
To the Chief Justice returned
he understood that magistrate had no power to admit
to bail in such Offences in reply to his question told
him did not know when the Chief Justice would return
that he at Trenton and might possibly return on Sat
urday evening.
Odd you say any thing about resisting the claim
the grounds that he the suspected incendiaryl
Al did; he said he innocent; ] told him heard
that he Ind made threat that Cheddick should not
cupy the property; told him OF the hundred rumors
had heard in order to induce him give up the receipt
also mentioned the quarrel he said TO have haa with
Mr. Shotwe of the arbitrators at the foot OF Court
landt street NY.
Q-By Mr.. vAsprkk-What reply did the prisoner
make when you told him of the story OF his threats'
Al do not recollect; he said he had quarreed 18th
Showe that Cheddck had offered his properyior S230o
did not notice any percepble change in his manner du
that could account for himself that yening and
proceeding to tell how he could do it, but said he had
better not tell me- that if he could do much the bet
ter for himself.
Q-By MIR. v.SpvKE-How long did the conversation
continue before Marsh offered to give up the receipt
Mr.. HALsTEAp, Senr very warmly)-The witness did
not any such thing; Marsh offered to give up
thereceip you are mistating the witness sir You had
dence. Mr. Vandyke is the District Attorney at Bruins
wick.
Mr.. VAspYKE-I am not mistating the Witness under.
Mr. HALsrEAp-No Sir, you do not, or If you do you
do not understand what the witness has testified. have
as much patience as any man, but there point beyond
which will not keep silence.
Jsdge wHlrrHEAD-Gcntlcmen, drop this; it is not
proper, or necessary.
Mr. HMsrEAp Jr. lin reply to words which fell
from Mr.. District Attorney Chetwood)-We'll swap
places with YOU and thus settle the diHernceThis lit
tie squirt created quite ascene in the Court
WirNEssThe claim for the loss should have been
made to me; the company at Hartford never pay any
losses the policy Of which had been effected renew ed
at my office, without previously applying to me-
Coss-eraminedI heard some OF these rumors previous
to going to New York, from Mr.. Cheddck; the morning
after the fire went down to the ruins and there learned
that Cheddck had moved in with his family the day
previous; cnqurcd where he might be found, and was
told no was at his nephews house MI Miller in Liberty
street, went there and found the Coroner and several
other persons there Cheddick then told me that he had
just moved in expressed my surprise that should BIZ
occupied after the insurance had been effected
think heard Of the quarrel between Marsh and Ched
dick before the holding of the inquest the building burn
cd the only one had ever insured directly for Marsh
he did make application to me to insure building al
Railway heeit old policy with me, which had beer
effected with the Brunswick Company never went to
the premises.
Direct resimed-t was in the October term that he
gave me the old policy on the Railway property:
WILLIAM WILLIAMS sworn reside at tiihabethtown
the evening Of the ninth OF November saw Thomas
Marsh the prisoner at the Jersey Ferry at the foot
courtlandt street New York was about fifteen minutes
before he was standing, confronting Mr. Showe
| the witness previously examined.
Q-How did you know him
-iheard Showell call him by name have no doubt
but that the prisoner at the bar the man he was
talking loudly to showe to the effect that he and Ched
dick had wronged him, yet he would have satisfaction
he said he had repeatedly heard Chedick offer to sell the
property for 5000 stood about four five feet from
him being acquainted with shotNel, listened to hear
what he SAID the prisoner used many words he appear
cd quite angry he said he would yet get hold OF mort
gage Of Shotwes and then he would have him in hi,
power; did not know the prisoner before do not re
collect any thing else particularly about what transprcd
he talked in louder voice than people usually do he
left us of his accord there were several person,
around cannot name any other persons who were pre-
his dress particularly don't recocct that he had any
thing in his hand did not ything OF him at
Cross-sranmd-I LEFT New York by the O'Clock
boat ii may have been five minutes after Marsh had gone
away think he passed up in the direction OF Washing
ton street did not anything of him board the
boat coming across took the train for Newark and
then changed for the Elzabethtown train stopped
the depot did thing of Marsh board th,
cars cannot recolect whether was in company with
shotwcll on board the together on board
the boat my impression Is that we came to Newark in
the same car
Bya JoRon--1he cars stopped that night as usual al
| the bridge.
he passing round the baggage car going up West
street and was about twenty-five or thirty feet from the
ticket Office
Jous FINcn, swon--I!reside at Jersey City, moved
there lest September engaged in attending to the
settling up Of the estate Of my sister, know the prisoner
first knew him in is22 boarded at his fathers house
with my wife and two Children at Trembys Point, Rah
way county; Marsh was living with his iancr at the
time did not Marsh after that season, for several
years; next saw him In Railway In 1876; We lived in
the town together for three four years. saw him
frequently during that me think len Railway in the
January OF 1892 TO reside In New York. do not reco-
ec having Marsh during the period resided there;
saw him on the night Of the Nh November, about quar-
before SEVEN he standing in front of the gate OF
the Jersey City ferry the New York side; he
veIsing with shotwell; did recognize either OF the
when frat them; the first Observation heard,
and which drew my attention to the parties. made by
Marsh, who said, "Chedick shall not live twenty -four
hours In that house" heard Marsh toll shotwell that
he had robbed him Narsh) OF first $500 then 5000 and
then $500; he offered 10 bet showc 800 md leave 70
the six gentlemen who were Standing by, that he could
prove wha, he sad shotw denied the charge by say
that he only the referees Marsh gave MS rem
for making the accusation that Chcdiick had
valued his firm than - 600 and the referees had
given him 49, 1907 then inquired where the farm lay, and
shotwell replied, between Railway and Ellabcthtown
made the remark that knew the farm and had been on
II while lived In Railway Marsh turned round and said
Il Lnow Mr. 4 nm hut