The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-04-07
Fourier COnventiOn.-Attacku upon the FOu-
rleritea.
SATURDAY-THIRD DAY.

rierites.
sATURDAY-THIRp DAY.
There were present at the opening of this days
proceedings about thirty persons, in the lecture
room at Clinton Hall The Fourertes seemed
evidently much chagrined at the apathy of the
New Workers on the subject of Fourierism; and
expressed their deep disappointment and dissatis-
faction, as will be perceived by some remarks that
fell from Mr.. Dana and Mr.. Wrightman. A large
file of French journal, called the democratic
Pacifqme" dated 29:h of February, was distributed
through the room. This paper is published in the
French Capital, and is exclusively devoted to
the advocacy of Fourier's doctrine. II is entitled
" Journal DIES Interests des Governments Il des
Peu1,e;" and has for its motto, in Latin. " Ut ON
mes fratres sint:" (Matthew) s. u ooines
Sit" Uoannes) with the French inscription, =" Uni;
te soc,ale-Rcigieuse ct politqns-Droit aw ira rail
-ibre eramcS-elcctione This journal is perfectly
independent, and attacks the Chamber OF Deputies
without any regard to party.
The CHAIRMAN announced the hour of meeting
had arrived; and wished the gentlemen to proceed
with the business OF the Convention.
Mr. CLAIMING came forward and offered the 4th
resolution, which he took pleasure In reading for
the meeting. 1t was as follows:
That regarding association not as an invention of hui
ingenuity, but discovery Of the divine order of
society," soemnly protest against retaing this prov
Dental and humane movement by premature rash and
ragmenary undertakings and ereseeing as we do that
success in these enterprises requires dnteresedness
sasacty and perseverance We appeal to the friends Of
establish associations until lsthey have secured the
operation of sufficient number Of and women of
congenal empers devoted from generous impulse and
convicton this cause of God and until ID They
have maturely delberated upon and distinctly compre
hended the laws OF order and the which
command such ample capital as to preserve them from
anxeies and risks For only when these conditions
fulfilled there be realised that attractive industry and
abundant wealth and beauty which the foundations
upon which the higher social and religious harmonies
be reared Only thus can associations be success
fully established. But rejoice in the assurance that
when established they will act with increasing
power thoroughly to redeem the tens Of thousands op
ries whch,no superficial character but only radical JUS
tice can relieve or cure.
He (Mr. c. wished to say a few words in rela-
ton to the passage OF the resolutions which were
to be presented; and one of them in particular, en-
bodied the whole principles of association, which
covered the entire ground upon which they had
met; and may, indeed be considered the chief one
in connexlon with their convention, and It stood
the sixth in the series. When that came up he had
afew remarks to offer in relation to it, it was
to accompany the address which they intended to
forward to the people of the United States: That
resolution viewed the question from synthesls to
analyss-from principles to details, and had refer
ence to the union of man with his God. TWAS in
tended to adjourn the present convention to the
LIST October, when they contemplated holding
another. In relation to the establishment OF town.
go on progressively, step by step, until they would
make the United States one uniform association;
so as to unite all in one common bond OF union
and love, and which would put away the demon
Cain that was stalking abroad in the land, and
covering the world with sin and wickedness.
To carry out the objects of the Association to their
full extent 1t was contemplated to send Their friend
Mr.. Brisbane, to Europe. His untlrng zeal and
activity, his vast services, gave him strong claim
upon the friends of association in the United States,
and the deep confidence they had in his moral
worth and high capabilities, the gratitude they telt
for his services, and the sacrifices he had made
to work out the great objects OF association would
insure him the respect and attention OF their
friends in Europe.
The Chairman here put the fourth resolution
from the chair, which was carried mem. con.
A short discussion here arose as to the locality
for holding the next Convention.
Mr.. DANA was in favor of Boston. The people OF
New York were not alive to this movement, and
Boston would be a better place, the New Eng
anders were more INTEL gent on the subject Of AS.
ISOLATION, and the neglect and utter carelessness OF
the people of New York rendered 1t imperative to
hold it elsewhere.
Mr.. WRIGHrMAN was in favor of Boston.
Though he was native Of New York, and the
very paving stones were familiar TO him Qaughter)
though the Aldermen OF the city did not pay much
attention to the sweeping-(roars OF laughter)
though he loved HIS native city, he was IN favor
of Boston, or some other locality where the prn-
ciples OF Association may be better appreciated
Here they were neglected--here, where they ex-
pected to find the classes which they sought to
beneft--but the domino box the chequer board,
and the card table, had greater charms for these
persons than their meetings had.
Mr.. WATSON offered some remarks III favor OF
locality more central than Boston-more TO the
Wes-and hoped to see this grand conspiracy ex-
tended all over the Universe. Such was his ambi
ton, and such way did he determine upon,
Mr.. J; 4. Smith (who is, we understand, the
painter of the Park) here rose and sad, the gen.
teman who has last sat down has spoken OF a con-
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spracy, such az would take from the Nottingham
the wages for his labor, and then range and classify
and give him but the poor privilege OF eating at the
third table This i. just what you mean to do-to
establish sort OF kid-glovc aristocracy IN the land
and swallow up the poor mans wages. tell you,
sir that this is anti Republican and contrary to the
spirit and letter of our Constitution, which gives
perfect freedom to man, acknowledgements
melted.
Mr.. CLAIMING was glad that this man had come
forward. He mlstook the meaning the. applica-
ton OF the word conspiracy as used by his friend,
MIR. Watson. 1t was a conspiracy to reform the
thousand abuses that had existed in the world, and
which this movement was calculated to remedy -
Mr. G. here replied to the remarks OF MIR. Smith,
and IN the course Of his remarks went over the &C.
neral ground of the Fourier doctrine and princi-
pies.
| Mr. LIST said he was glad that his friend, the
working man. had said what he did, and felt HIM
self called upon to make some observations IN reply.
He thought II proper that he should do 1t, because
born of poor parents and Of the humble classes
left an orphan and in poverty at two years OF age,
and having had thousand difficulties to encounter
as he grew up, without a patron-becausc. he
would not stoop to solicit one-having worked at
many branches of industry, and even on the farm.
Before starting for this convention, he had left of
his work to do so. He felt he hould make remark
in reply. Npplause) In the first place he differed
from his friend, and their difference was precisely
as to the same facts--but upon a comparison CT
notes he hoped they would be agreed. The work
ing men had no feelings against this movement.
On the part Of the working-men Of New England,
he dsclamed the assertion OF their indifference to
it, He knew they felt deeply interested in the
movement they were engaged in, and well they
might, if like him they had to labour II, Is, or 20
hours day, to win from some imperlous mono
post as much as would preserve life and health
from day to day He associated in some degree
with those who had been called the "Kld-Glove
Aristocracy," and he thought some mistake exist
ed in the application of the term 1t did not apply
TO persons there; he for one would refuse it, that
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