The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-02-10

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The Fourth OF July Convenfion-The First
Attempt to Organize n New Democratic
Party, and Its probable Abortion.
We gave yesterday very copious and accurate
report Of the proceedings at Vauxhall on Thursday
evening" for the purpose Of making the first step To-
wards the organization of Fourth OF July Con
venton on democratic principles, and the establish
ment of new democratic party IN oppositoh 10
MIR. Van Buren, and the Baltimore Convention
Ever since this project was started we nave looked
with a good degree of interest for the FIRST move
ment of its authors, expectation OF beng able to
ascertain from its complexion, the men who con-
Quoted it, the spirit with which it prosecuted,
and the numbers who attended tits probable
chance Of success, or its probable fate of being
mere abortion.
There can be no doubt that vast masses OF the in
telligent portions Of the American people, at
tached both to the old wing and the old democratic
parties are dissatisfied with their leaders and their
candidates. And no better evidence of this need
be given than the extraordinary developments
which we have seen made, during the last few
months, under the auspices Of the new American
Republican party, in this city. When, therefore,
this new attempt was made to organize new par
ty, on general politics. and for the purpose of oper-
ating the next Presidency, we at once perceived
that we would be furnished with the ready means
of estimating the probabilities of its success, and Its
probable influence on future events.
We have, therefore, very cautiously and calmly
SURVEYED this movement; and, on the whole, we
must say that we do not see that it possesses the
slightest chances of success in any aspect in which
it can be viewed. 1t wants the proper men-the
proper principles-the proper organs-the proper
spirit-more than all, and above all, it wants the
masses In relation to reform in this city, we be-
lieve the only new development which has any
chance Of success, is what we call the American
Republican party; and that consists of combna-
ton of the whole sensible people belonging to both
parties of this city, who want radical reform in
the corporation. This is the only new organiza-
ton that possesses the materials of permanent exs-
tence, and they will carry it through.
We say that we have given full report of the
first meeting of the friends of the Fourth of July
Convention. We have allowed them to represent
theil own case in the most favorable aspect, and
in all its length and breadth. But it will be per-
ceived, from the funess and accuracy of
elements defeat and oblivion. In Congressional
District of this State, comprising over twenty thou
sand voters, and in 1910 giving democratic ma
jority of nearly thousand votes, we are met
with the astounding fact, that only about two hun
bred, of at most two hundred and fifty persons, at
tended this first meeting to organize the new party
On the principles of Mr. Calhoun, the same which
the leaders in this movement adopted, the Fourth
of July Convention would thus be no more the
true representation of majority of the democrats
of that district than any other delegates to any
other convention in the Union. Besides it really
appears that there is radical difference OF opinion
amongst the leaders themselves and from the
efforts made to obtain the suppression of portion
Of the report, in reference to the proposition OF
Mr., McCracken to postpone the nomination of a
delegate, we are inclined to suspect that the new
organization consists Of too ral materials to keep
together for month. Yet we are willing to give
them another trial in the other districts, TO see If
they can do any better, and be any more success
full in satisfying themselves and the world, that
they will gather together by ling little longer
on to the Fourth Of July.
But one thing is very certain; if this party go on,
they must wake up at the next meeting very diff
ferent set of passengers from those which they
slowed into their omnibus at the last. Mr.. Eddy,
at that meeting, made tolerable speech--a little
incoherent and disjointed-but, still, pretty good
speech. Mr. Morrill,, also, made speech IN his old
STYLE very like those which we have annually heard
atTammany Hall, with some changes in the names.
General Green seemed more impressed with the
idea of what concerned himself than any thing
else and, however expert the General may be
with his pen, he is one of the most spritless, in
effective speakers we have ever heard in New
York. In this latitude, man must have some
mettle in his tongue to be able to enchain his
audience and it wouldn't be arhss for the Gene
raj to take few lessons in elocution from Mike
Walsh, before he appears again as public speaker.
Mr.. McCracken cackied little; but that, of course
amounted to nothing. Indeed, indeed it is very
clear that this new movement was badly off for men.
Then, as to the character Of the audience ITSELF
there were friends of Calhoun, and of Tyler, and
of Cass there but the only name that excited a
single spark of enthusiasm in that comfortless and
very cold room, was that Of the good old Chris
tian soldier, Colonel Dick Johnson, God bless him
We believe Colonel Dick is the only man, and in
whose name alone great public, rousing enthu-
siastic meeting could be got up in New York.
We see by the Charleston Mercury that Mr.
Calhoun has Withdrawn his name I; and this has
been followed by the decided declaration of his
friends in South Carolina that they will not sup
port Mr.. Clay and thus the probability is, tina
they will give their whole assistance to Mr.. Var
Buren, That General Cass has ever given in hi
adhesion to the Fourth of July Convention, re
quires palpabe manifestation under his owl
name His position with respect to the Baltimor,
Conventlonj forbids it and thus far his fate an,
fortune are very equivocal.
On the whole, we cannot resist coming to ith,
conclusion that this movement to organize a new
party on the distinct system, by Fourth of july
Convention, is premature-that it does not bring L
its aid those masses Of the people that will carr,
out such movement successfully-that there i
no hope or expectation that the Fourth Of July Con
vention can be constituted so as to give it any ba
lance Of power, or any influence over the next con
r. I Al