Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1844-01-11

IA ,,oent That may be done without preJuu,se ~ va
public interests, copy oil any 'nsliu..o%s Ametican
Minister in England on the subject oi the t,ie ~
~ nccn,a,on Of Oregon since the Ii day OF Vaie"'
1saI. also. a copy of any correspondence WIZ
have taken ulace between this Government anu 10,
Of Great Britain in relation TO 'hat supect
emo cnme IN as the postponed business oil ihulsuay
last; the question pe"u'"s WIS
'"1 ~ ,b;s onestion Mr. ALLEN called for the yeas
y" a aa,h;ch were ordered. Mr. A. then address,
d the Senate at considerable length IN support ., '"e
resolution, prefacing his remarks py an 'Ios m b.,
- the effect that since the day the SUBJECT was
c he had discovered that he was mistaken % - Tue
nerson in the British Parliament who haa MAUI .n '
declaraton that the Senate bill OF last session" "au
hecome law would have been cause OF wal =
~, Cir Robert Peel, but Lord Palmerston, VINO mao
,n.ds ,bet declaration Mr.. A, however, referred 10
ho authenticated version of the debate IN farian'eh
- .how wha, both Lord Pamerston and MIR. rec u'o
cav on the subject, with a view oil Jusuiyihg tue 10
.rmp,on that the threat OF war was USED ioi tue pun
nose of acting on tbs Govern ment, and forcing 'ht'
negotiation. .o, ia, ,ha resoIn,;on
onId effect nothing as he authorized t. say tnat
no uerotiation had been entered into IN r.ngaho, SIM
last session. on the subject OF Oregon Inc Executive
of this Government had ceItalnly made such PfoP'
sition, but it was not conculfeo III ny Tue ~ ~
vernmen and therefore, the Instructions sent 10 our
minister were not acted upon. The B'Itish Govern
ment had since adopted the course OF sending tnns
ter to this country with powers TO negt ale ana
all difficulties with Government on the suoect anu
that minister had either arrived al New York. and was
an b;s wsv 10 the capital, or his passage from
England and might be expected here within very ie"
davs Under these circumstances he opposed the re-
solution as being calculated TO embarrass The Exc.
cuye in the discharge of his duties; or, answered
BY disclosure Of the instruction TO our MINISTER, es
likely 10 prove most injurious the interests oil the
country. ,,,,~ p,vrs d
CRiTTENDEN took the same grounds in opposing
the resolution 1t was advocated by Messrs Lien
and BENTON; the latter proving, from the Journals
OF the Senate, that General washington was ~. -"
habit of consulting the Senate on the terms OF any
treaty. about TO be negotiated, and nsanced his mes
sage relative to Jays t-eaty, IN i1!5 IN winch tue
question of tonndary-thls very qufslioh-was n"'s'
negotiation Mr. u. proved from TINS that zen Nash-
ngon considered within The province OF the Senate
to advise with the Executive upon the terms on WHEN
the negotiation of the treaty TO he laid down. anu
that it was the only cafe way of proceeding on queS
tion ofterritory. 49,,
Mr.. WOODBURY. thought the gentlemen on ihe
other side unnecessarily sensitive about the elect OF tue
resolution He did not that il could do any HARM
snce the legislative action of the Senate would be, Ike
that of the last session, strictly in conformity win the
existing treaty.. ;,
Messrs BUCHANAN and KING would vote
against The adoption Of the resolution ct present. as
they conceived, whatever The Senate might choose %
do in its executive capacity, it not ADVISABLE nnoer
the circumstances stated by the Chairman oil the Ion-
mi,,ee on Foreign Relaons for the Senate, IN us L.
pisative capacity TO call for the only inlormatoh tue
Executive could give that of lis instruction 10 our o"
nasmuch, Us if furnished and mace known
10 the world it might be peudcial 10 the interests oil
this country.
Mr. BUCHANAN said he would vote most cheer
fully for the resolution, brought up in Executive ses-
sion.
The question then taken on the adoption OF The
resolution and decided in the negative-yeas IA, nays
81, as follows
Yeas-Messrs. Allen, Atkinson, Benton, Brees',
Colquitt, Fairfield, Fulton, flanagan, Semp'e Stur-
geon, Tappan, Walker, Woodbury. and Wrieht-l4
Nlessrs. Archer, Bngby, Barrow, Bates Ba'
ward, Berren, Buchanan, Choa'e, Clayton Criiten'
den, Dayton, Evans, Foster, Haywood, Henderson,
iIuper, Huntington, Jarnagn King, McDuilie, Man
gum, Merrick Miller Morehead, Phelps Porter OF Mt
chigan, Rves, Tallmadge, Upham, White and Wood
bndge-3l.
So the resolution was not adopted.
The Senate then nd burned
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
Prayer by the Rev. Mr.. Tinsey.
The Clerk then read the Journal of Saturday
w hen
Mr. THOMPSON of Miss, offered resolution,
ordering that oil debate and amendments, TO b'l! No. j.
cease this day at o'clock and that the committee rise
ind report the bill to the House.
Mr. PRATT offered amendment, which gave
atiscal of the popular vote OF the whole UNION
favor Of refundIng the fine of General Jackson aho
hat all debate should al 2 o'clock, and all amend
ne nts shall then be offered and the bill he reported 10
he House Mr. 2. proposed also that the vote shoulo
,e taken by o'clock He stated also that he had been
correctly informed that the Legislature OF New ork
lad second time passed the resolution TO instruct her
Senators and request her Representatives, to vote Tor
he reminding of the fine unjusly imposed on him by
Judpe Hall and he mentioned the information Tor his
colleagues in the House.
Mr.. THOMPSON said he had objection TO the
amendment except taking the bill out OF committee al
clock, and moved q suspension OF the rules
Mr.. PRATT demanded the previous question
which was sustained.
Mr.. ADAMS demanded the yeas and nays, which
were ordered and the following is the result Yeas
III, nays 81.
So the rules were suspended.
Mr.. BLACK of Georgia inquired of the Chair
whose came after his
The CLERK James Black
Mr.. BLACK. That is all want 10 know; and II
had been within the bar at the time my name was
called, should have answered "aye.
Mr. THOMPSON then accepted the amendment
Of Mr.. Pratt, with the exception OF two o'clock who
Welded that point, and demanded the previous ques
lion.
The resolution of Mr. THOMPSON, as modified,
was then read by the Clerk when
The SPEAKER stated the question 10 the House,
when there second.
Mr.. DAVIS of Ky. introduced the Hon. G W.
Summers of Virginia. who qualified and took his
seat.
The main question was then put, and decided in the
Affirmative.
Mr.. THOMPSON of Miss. then moved, that The
House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole
On the Of the Union, and moved suspension OF
The rules.
Mr. SAUNDERS requested MIR. Thompson to with
draw his moon allow him to introduce resolution
blowing Mrs Madison whenever she shall desire 10
visit the House, seat on the floor.
The resolution was agreed 10 unanimously
The SPEAKER then put the question upon a sus-
OF the rules, which decided in the anrma
i've. -
So the House resolved itself into Commlttee OIL Tue
Whole the state of the Union Mr.. J. w. DAVIS IN
he Chair, and tonk up the bill refund'ng the
FINE OF GEN. JACKSON. -, an
Mr. SCHENCK spoke against the merits OF the Dill,
because it implied cepsure against Judge Hall; but u
gentlemen wished meet Us upon common ground,
II they have 10 is 10 adopt the amendment proposed
" the gentleman from Georgia, (Mr Stephens) yndI.
ating the character of the deceased Judge BY pro-
concession upon this point all parties might unite
the passage of this BILL but II appeared 10 him. that
he object of The bill der discussion although does
specifically state the fact, yet implies censure
pom the character Of Judge HALL He then went into
detailed statement of the facts under which Judge
lal acted and opposed the pursued by General