The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-01-27
TWENTY EIGHTH CONGRESS.
FIRST SsION.

FIRST SESSION.
senate.
THURSDAY, Jan. 25th
The Senate is thinly attended this morning.
Fox AND WISCONSIN, KIvERs.-Ths Bill again
came under consideration, and some further
amendments were made. Messrs. Tallmadge,
Tappan,, Woodbridge and King took part in arrang-
ing the details.
sale OF these alternate sections Of land-preferred
to have them held by the United States for tho
present-posfpone action
MIR. WOODBRIDGE was in favor Of selling these
lands-let the country be settled. This is an i'm
portunt object respects the military offences of
the country: Simply for the, want of q road which
could have been constructed at small expense, a
whole province. capitulated during the last war,
which was only regained by an outlay Of some
100000, 900. For the military defence of the
country. therefore, he desired this work to go on
Mr.. Japan wanted these works altogether sus-
pended until Wisconsin should become State
and then let her prosecute the works and he
therefore proposed an amendment to that effect. A
State can prosecute work at vastly less expense
than the United States Government. Mr. Tap
pans object was to appropriate these alternate
sections OF land for the purposes named OF implov-
ing this navigation, but that they should not be
sold until Wisconsin became State.
Mr.. TAppAN's amendment was made
Mr.. TAIJMADGE was DESTROYS of arranging
the terms OF the Bill that the lands be sold at
$3.50 per acre. Let the lands be sold immed-
ately, and the funds accruing be reserved to be-
expended by the State Of Wisconsin for these i'm
proyements
Mr.. HAYWOOD was totally opposed to the whole
ponement Of the Bill, in oruer that nc might find
out who the Senators that were in favor
of voting away the. public lands, or ceding to
the State the public domain Were Sena-
simple the public lands within their limits! Where
are the gentlemen who IRE in favor Of distributing
to the States the proceeds OF the public lands To
whom are these lands appropriated To the State
OF Wisconsin? There is no such State. To the
Territory Of Wisconsin! That cannot be DONE
NO, the secret design IS to appropriate them to a
whipping the devil round the stump that he had ever
seen. Then, again, who knows how much land by
this bill is appropriated! can't find out The bill
don't say No one knows the lesgth Of these rivers.
And can't find out whether there be SEQ acres or
5,OO0,OOO. He moved that the bill be indefinitely
postponed, and asked the yeas and nays upon the
question:
Mr.. KALAMAZOO replied that this bill was fully i'm
accordance with the usual principle upon which
Congress had been in the practice of legislatng for
long time past. The military defences of the
country demanded such works to be Prosecuted
Similar appropriations had been repeatedly made
and for similar purposes by Congress- Congress has the
right to make these grants appropriations These ap
preparations made to company. Wepropose to sell
these alternate double the usual price $2 bO)
in order that the country may get the full value OF these
lands the same as il the whole were sold at the
Mr.. TAPPAr made some remarks in answsr to Mr.. Hay
wood, which could not be distinctly understood.
Mr.. tHAYwoop doubted the constitutional propre.
ty Of making these appropriations for the
OF the State Of Wisconsin Is present appropriation
against it, II the choose make an appropriation
for this object let them DO directynot whip the dsv
MIR. TALIMApax said he had often heard Of whipping
the devil round the stump but he knew before
day what it meant. He alluded to the gcntemans
stutional propriety" something He thought f
Mr. Haywood had paid attention to the subject he
would have known about it, He had before stated
that nearly could be asceraned there
100000 acres in this appropriation But whether 1t he
much more. less, what difference make in
much as Congress get double price for their alternate
Two P. M-The subject is still under debate
Mr. HAYWOOD has just withdrawn his motion for ndsd.
mite postponement.
The subject is postponed till tomorrow.
OaEGoN.-TLe notice" respecting the mutual occupa
Mr.. ARCHER moved to refer the whole subject to tho
Committee on Foreign Relations. He thought to give
this notice" now, would be equivalent to declaration
that we desire no negotiation upon the subject.
HALF PAST 2P. M.-Mr TsmrIx il discussing the cues.
ton OF joint occupancy. II is an anomaly. He is op.
posed referring the question TO the Committee on 10.
reign Relaonsprefered to refer to the Special Com
mittee
Mr.. BUCHANAN differed from the Chairman of the Com
mittee on Foreign Relations. lie thought the "Notice,
should he given He did not like to have the subject
shmoiered by the Committee on Foreign Relations He
moved TO postpone the subject till next Tuesday MONDAY
being McDuies Tariff day. and left the subject thus un.
discussed
this subject was unadvsed Great Britain the sole
occupant of the territory He would respect treaties
fully But g respected the right of property He
would not yield our right to territory. lie said
he hoped the subject would be postponed in order give
opportunity for discussion. Mr.. Atkinson expressed
rtory and the incxpcdency Of negotiating upon qnes
ton which did not ADMIT Of doubt
Mr.. GreMhoMs book should be Completed and paS.hsd
il would throw much light upon the subject.
Mr.. BrsIos lnterrnpng)-we want no books upon
this side Of the House where the western Seneors si
Mr. ARCHER said he most freely admitted that the Hon.
Senator from Missouri entonl. FROM his diligence and
dstinguishe is fully Of the subject but others Of
us not so fully acquainted with it. And he could
would be very greatly strengthened by Mr. Creenhcws
Tor Greenough) hook lie said had been his privilege
to ace part Of this work in its yet
Oregon to ask delay upon these questions until the book
should be published which would be very shortly.
Mr. desired the Senate to act without any refer
ence books 10 any pending negotiations II was
no matter at all what mghbe done at the other end Of
the Avenue-the Senate has its own duty to perform,
independently the action Of all other bodies or powers
He wanted delay In consequence Of negotiations To
; Ssa w S telling
To delay action TO give instructions to the President 10
surrender. TO yield rights IN the premises Shall our
through the unadvised viii Of the Executive Ths
British Parliament does not so act- never hestatcs to
am opposed to the motion Of the Hon Chairman OF the
Committee on Foreign Relations (Archer) because our
dent TO take the subject wholly into his own hands
settle as he pleases The President should w.l,g
to be advised in this matter. MIR Alien made very sss
and eloquent appeal. md followed by
Mr. MonHHrap-Ie said he differed with Mr.. Aim in
the matter oil delay to act while he concrrred It'll him
on the general merits OF the Oregon question He acted
with them on this subject az the last session md he had
changed none of his views since But he deemed il pro-
under the present state of the delay
ton If the British Government are in possession ofbe
Territory Is in pursuance Of the treaty renewed in egh
cen hundred and twenty-seven. Moreover he believed
his is a fair, proper subject for negotiation -
He has not the slightest fear nor apprehends the least
danger In entrusny 20 the President the initiative Of this
great question according to the provisions Of the Cons
nton He wouldnot like to take the position assumed y
Mr. Allen Of nsfucting the President a. TO his duty 70