The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-10-13

true faith OF thy holy name may our peIiecs con
summation and bli thy eternal and everlasting glory,
through Jesus Christ our Lord"-and az the conciuahs
petition Of prayer tor the whole stste oil ChrsPs
church mant"as the act OF inteIcession IN the ancient
Liturgy OF the Church OF Jerusalem set forth by the late
Bishop Hobart, in his "Christisns Manual"
v. do you not believe that the offering OF Masses
or the dead and the granting OF ndugences are danger
| at variause with the principles OF the GospelP
Ans. do not believe in the offering Of Masses for the
dead and the granting Of indulgence prsctsed ny the
Church OF Rome dang and gross and
tirey at variance with the principles Of the gospel
practsed BY the Church Of Rome7"
ans do not approve, but condemn the Invocation OF
Saints BY the Church OF Rome.
Q VII "Couldyou with your present principles sub
the Greed OF Pope Plus Vor take orders In the
Ans With my present principles could not subscribe
to The Creed Plus W. take orders IN the church OF
Rome
sw cred before after his ordinstionf
DR.. HiGBgE answered afterwards He would observe
in connection with the answer however that he was
of the examiners and what his doctrines and
his these questions IN perfect consonance
with those given on his specsl previous
his conservation For his perfect fidelity and TRUTH he
held himself responsible as christian minister and an
The Rev f. W. Boyp, Of Mississippi, follow.
ed with argumentative speech in opposition TO the
reference the House Bishops In the Of his
famed OF the Rev DR.. Tying, which contains SO
powerful an exposition Of the truths OF Episcopal faith
.
but seemed think that his position was not consist
ent with those professions and doctrines written by him
this called mp
DR. 1Yse, in reply. These who have ever heard this
Rev. gentleman in debate, end listened to the almost
lightning volubiy with which he rounds his polished
periods only form idea Of the utter impraccabii
~ Of reporter who is not practised senograpaer at
tempting 10 follow him The speech was eloquent,
glowing and mastery exposition Of the supposed errors
had crep the church He denounced fearless
y and frankly those tendencies which he feared were i'm
bued with Romanism He pointed with triumph con
innovation the primitive purity OF the church assert
ed that those whose sympalhes in doctrine tended
wards tractaanism the frs to attempt the seve
OF the bond OF unity, by introducing tn hcons Of
Rome its phantasies and foes into the service OF the
Episcopal church, and in strain OF delightful eoquence
vndicated principles oil himself and those who acted
with him It was, ali In all most powerful spe CHI and
The House, after ne had concluded, adjourned
FRIDAY, October IL, 1874
Morning rrayers read and the minutes OF yester
Several messages from the House of Bishops read
already reported being responses 10 the action
Rev MIR FoHpss of N " directed the attention of the
house appars mt oversight IN its proceedings BY
Of Canon VI 1884 every bishop elect,
before his conservation shall produce to the House
Bishops from the convention by whom he Is elected,
evidence OF such election the House Of clerical
and Lay Deputies In general convention evidence oil
their appreciation OF his testimonials and Of Their assem-
his conservation end also sign the canonca testuo-
malls The house by Its ac ion Tuesday had signed
testim OF the bishops elect Of New Hampshire
and Alabama He thought under the Canon more was
Resolved That this House OF Clerical and Lay Depu
ties approve OF the testimonials and assent to the const
Grafton OF the Rev Charlton Cheese Bshop elect OF
New Hampshire and the Rev Nicholas IA. Cobbs, D D.,
Bishop elect Of Alabama
Rev. SIR Fo, Bss did not think the action met the case
there implied approval and assent hut Seem TO
him that imply direct assent and approval
Rev MIR. sMALLwoop Of Ohio thought the resolution
from the Conversations, .dop,.d on Tues
day. all sufficient for carrying out The n quremenis
q he
Mr. Fonsrs read from the Comments on Canons by the
Rev DR. Hawks in which the course implied In his reso
luton was advocated
DR. HAYES stated that these comments on his part had
been the result OF deliberate CONSIDER he believed
the plan suggested by the Rev. Gentleman from ~ Y,
the requisite and proper one.
MIR WILLIAMS of Virginia thought ii this resolution
passed would involve the House III the absurdty 81
sending up 10 the House Bishops the canoncs tesiimo
mails. without having given their appreciation and assent
to his conservation.
II. Husrrsopov Esq. OF Connecticut, thought it
most portant settle the construction Of the Canon
has settled before to deliberate understand
Ingly He denied that the construction was settled by
this House; lis former action settled 10 was
mere sub siiento action. If thep evios OF acto,
when the question comes directly before
explicit action let us settle conioimably 10 the
Canon As the question Of its there any
thing important than the setting apart Of Presbyter
to tn. high office Of Bishop The General Convention
had placed guards and upon this subject and
are now called upon settle the and carry
out ali the guards the General Convention intended
DR. SrHoSo asked il the testimonials which had been
solemnly signed not approval TO the election oi
Brhops and consent to their consecraIon he should Ike
10 know what arei
sent insisted that the required dire approval
HonAcE BIsNry, ESQ., supposed the question was that
after What House had done in signing the testimonials
there further action necessary IN approval as en
that something requisite under the canon In
reference something omitted in the resolution OF the
House Report oil the Committee the Consec ration
OF Bishops He believed precisely the same resolution
had been ia the present as had been ADOPT
ed all preceding he did not there was
the slightest difference 1.-THE same action had been used
all precedents and the resolution nov oherei
deemed necessary the necessary canonict
assent and appreciation involves all previous cases ~
disorder The House had referred the tesumonais o.
usual to committee they had reported and the members
implied consent and approval The action of the Com
mues was entirely merged in the proceeding OF the
House ii the action OF the Committee wrong, and
the House approved oil their report the act OF the Com
mee who were fundus oficio had gone from the House
rs defects were no longer examinabe and nothing ieg
ed can be travsrsed; stands for the pleasure OF the
House Mr. BIS entire argument opposed to the
cessy iany further action the part OF the House
Alter some dscu sive debate, and reference to prece
dents. the resolution laid the table.
message from the House Of Bishops informed the de
putes that pursuance with quest from the Diocese
Of Missouri in compliance with canon l. OF 1885, they
had nominated the Rev Cicero Stephens Hawks, as .
suitable person ns bhopof that Diocese The Message
Mr.. MAcrARLASD OF Va, presented a communication
to iha House. containing statement Of certain proceed
the Diocese Of Pennsylvania In the Of the Right
Rev y. U Onderdonk, Bishop Of that Diocese, bearing
GATE Oct =, moved threnCe 10 the select
committee charged with the documents relative the
Episcopacy OF PENN ylvania Horace Bnney, Esq on
behalf OF the Pennsy lvana delegations requesting
they should be laid the table, Mr. Macfarand withdrew
his motion, and the document went to the table.
Dr. UrroLo moved that the President fill vacancy in
the committee on canons, which was adopted
T. A. Nswror, Esq, Of Mass referring TO the danger
from granting leave OF Absence seated the close the
last session OF the Convention when about deliberate
most important subjects they had been found without
quorum and search had to be made through the city
get some gentlemen to return who had leave
hat all NIL
cation for absence be referred the Committee Ca
nons
DR. BRooxE suggested the proprety Of substituting the
Committee Elections, which adopted, and
/ applications were reerred.to them
A gentleman on red a new Canon, providing that
unbaptsed person shall Ne eligible Lay Deputy thu
General Convention. This without discussion indie
/ fniely postponed
The Rev. Mr. MASON, Of Mary land, offered resolution