The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-04-05

for themselves would lead to stumbling blocks in
regard 10 religion on that part they not definite
enough. They made il not Of leading importance. They
did not frame ~ according to the system
Chrst-they did not pay attention to his command
shall be added thereto That teach themio adopt
Fourersm II they thought they could procure any sys-
TEN without naming the name oi csrt ,nsy ign, pc
The said that the question was the pre-
amble TO the resolutions which wee put and adopted
when the meeting adjourned iii o'clock:
At three O'Clock the Cony assembled to proceed
with the discussion OF the resolutions On the question
| beng put, 't"
Mir MuKRAr and proposed that they should not
proceed with TIE discussion OF the resolutions lie OBJ
cleh 10 the meaning that seemed to be attached IN The
hrst resolution to the word providence" the mind
wiz oil God Se. &c lie should not be wiling, II hn
meant. They had very much need Of information on
that. The Commercial Advertiser had attacked them
besides, among such men there assembled Io
lang uage should be used without clearly
talk about that OF which they knew nothing lie did
not for the purpose OF dscusson but make sug
geston which he thought il would be regsrd.
MIR CHAsSISo said that he had proposed The Iesou.
ton, he felt bound to address himself what had fallen
into controversy with him, because he believed him
be in search Of truth. The resolution was full OF
ng-so redundant that was not easy to express all ,ha,
il implied He then gave his opinions on the views con
nected with religion connected with the resolution he
believed in Providence. He was conscious OF his posses
power 10 lay down the laws OF his lie ply
steal and intellectual although he could nor unnake the
ply Biological laws Of his AS he did not make his
mind affections he look beyond the world Tor
first Secondly when he looked into his mind and
heart and found all his thoughts tending to something
greater than itself the mus be perfect
itself altogether good the Almighty God. livery
thing which surrounded him in the nstuIa world had
influence upon him. Although ignorant OF tine mode OF
the action unquestionaby Providence admits evil in many
respects, but all worked ior good and summoned
stand in relation to him consistent with our
iamilesand communities andn joined TO DC
nets why should not their association principles be good
They were bound 10 forward this ok il thty valued
a al ls Nh H.
vine Providence had chosen Of mighty reorma-
ton and Fourierism Association was the means He
hoped Mr.. Murray would not understand him giving
any indication OF wish Tor controversy by entering
upon tliot explanation
Convention point that had escaped HIM before. lie
could comprehend, with the last gentleman, the pro-
mighty Being permitting evil Nor could he coincide
those who looked upon the Universal Creation made
solely flor this only motive-the glory OF that being its
Creator.
Mr. ALLEN concurred in the resolution He took very
comprehensive view OF the past religious history OF tie
woridthe different conflicting systems and tenets-the
OF under different aud their gradual
explosion and the preparation OF the world Tor fouIen
He alluded associations Of different kinds in past ages,
advance OF their time. Three Of the Monks and Nuns
the Of Calvin, Arminius the great reform
ment in that oil temperance as intended by
Providence the great truths Of
aud he said that felt the Importance OF the work de-
volving to great extent upon himself
Mr. take tito be thewsest plan to pass tho
resolutions without any discussion explanation they
did all judging IRON the explanation OF the last gen
eman who only made the matter they could but
my stiy the They were told great deal about
christianity and Of its influence the world that had
amelorated the condition elevated her
ton in society He differed from this completely What
was the state OF woman at the hrsl why more man
consider what they about and step down from ia
cobs ladder and use instead Of csbasc words language
easy be understood The gentleman talks about our
being the offspring of the divine spirit" What do We
know about spirit and this language is beyond mans
The operation OF the social sys
TEN ended to malice, hatred and uncharabeness and
chr Instantly sets against mrn, household against
taught MIR. Warner ut great length, defended socialist
views-said that Fouriersm inadequate to regener-
the world and that they should not pledge themselves
! to the resolutions.
MIR CuAss,Na again enforced upon the Convention the
cussion He denied that they were there to hold hem
responsible Socialists for their views; but he
would say to them AS lar as you are foncernsd IKE
The President said that he would to the fullest extent
wish that every man should express his opinion i9ly,
freely and canddly at that Convention and would not
restrict at all the right Of free opinion His friend War
had indeed, disclamed all right speak; but for
extent he had avaled himself their indulgence The
resolution then put and sdopted.
Mr. CHANNIHG again made long speech in support oil
the resolution and in defence Of Fourier association
dwet the deep and aggravated evils OF societyhe
evils flowing from accumulation of wealththe pauper-
ism Of the mssseshe defciency of educationthe ials..
y of the principles which formed the basis of criminal
nsprudence-th right, OF man to be supported in want
sickness decrepitude by thegoverDment The whole
system wrong and could be righed but by the
influence of that which they were there TO sdvo
| MIR. RuoaLEs followed. in n speech Of some length
pretty much to the Eject. There nothing II
should be- In hiS opinion, Whatever was, WRONG
and II specially devolved them to reform the whole
| world.
| After or two other speeches. ..
MIR DANA and said He felt keenly the present
occasion. His bosom swelled it'll Indignation to behold
this great city the Of every misery and vice which
cursed the world. In street you wealth and
pous in the other prostitution and misery
The heart of any 18th spark OF humanity must
tob at this, and many have been urged to ear
action We protest against such state of society
the supporter of misery, and crime We protest
against Il as hard to be borne. We protest against
ciety and against the individuals who in it, We
wage private against any class no more against
the rich than the poor They all ii is true victims oil
| he same evils but know who suffers most The man
who is pampered by luxury and vents for nothing,
The who tolls, but hardly with hope, to sustain life
remedy must be radical, systematic, and thorough,
not at ALL For many years we have been stirred with
appeals upon the great question and remedies have be
proposed every What has been the resultf
What has been boosted progress! With the teachings
Of christianity, the m8yims oil the submes morality,
| what progress have maze. None MI. Dane showed
the defective system und which lved the
great want Of good educaon that evil not apart OF
our nature but plant there introduced by an unsound
system and which IL was totally Impossible TO era
icate until the world regenerai.d by tourerism.
| MIR BRrsnANE addressed the meeting The President
put the second resolution. which was adopted otter
which the meeting adjourned till this morning. ut nine
o'clock.
| General Sessions.
Before Recorder Talmadge and Aldermen Hatfield and
| Brady
| JONAS B. PHr.Lirs. Esq. Acting District Attorney.
Apsu A-.9uofher Grand Jtror--James Kelly, mason,