The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1844-01-19
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
THURSDAY, January Is, 1874.

allowing the use of the Hall to the Colonization So
ciety.
Mr.. BLACK, of Georgia object
MIR. IRWIN said the Hall had been previously &C.
cuped by the Colonization Society," and they had ad-
vertised that an adjourned meeting would be held
here this evening, not presumrg that there would be
any objection but to prevent any difficulty he had
offered the resolution, and hoped the objection would
be withdrawn.
Mr.. BLACK persisted in his objection.
Mr.. Tx WIN then moved suspension Of the rules
and demanded the yeas and nays which were not Or.
dered.
Mr.. STEPHENS, of Georgia, asked the Chair if
1t had not been the previous course to allow the
Hall to the Colonization Societyf
The SPEAKER replied that II had heretofore been
done.
Mr. DAVIS, of Kentucky called for tellers to see
whether there a second.
The CHAIR appointed Messrs Dellet and Cave
Johnson teers, who reported rs in tho affirmative,
and in the negative
No quorum voting, the rules were not suspended
Mr.. VANCE demanded the yeas and nays, which
were ordered.
Mr. BLACK, Of Georgia, asked the Speaker if it
was in order for gentleman TO call for the yeas and
nays after they had been refused
The SPEAKER said they had been refused on the
ground that no quorum had voted, and it was in
order.
Mr. BLACK, of Georgia. then moved call of the
House, which was not ordered, no quorum votng.
Mr.. FRICK then moved that the House adjourn
Upon this motion, Mr. WELLER demanded the
yeas and nays.
The CLERK then read the roll and the following
u the result Yeas norie nays l58.
SO the House refused 10 ad lourn.
Mr.. ORDER asked leave of the House to vote
not being present when his name was called
1t was objected to.
MIR. ORDER asked the Speaker if his name
would 20 the Journal3
The SPEAKER replied in the negative.
The question then required upon suspension of
The rules, and the yeas and nays demanded.
The CLERK then called the roll, and the following
Is the result Yeas l29 nays AZ.
So the rules were suspended, and the resolution
was agreed to.
Mr.. THOMASSON, of KY, asked leave to pre-
sent petition and papers accompanying plan of
snag boat.
1t was objected to-
MIR. THOMASSON moved suspension of the
rules.
The question then REQUIRED on suspension of the
rules, which was decided in the negative.
30 the rules suspended.
Mr.. ADAMS called for the orders of the day
The SPEAKER announced the frs, business in
order the motion reconsider the resolution here
tofore offered by Mr.. Patterson, calling for nfor ma
lion from the Postmaster General in relation 10
THE FRANKINo PRIVILEGE
Mr. PATTERSON inquired if i, would be in or.
der, if the resolution reconsidered to oter sub
stitutei
the SPEAKER said it would be.
MI HOPKINS presented copy of a circular Of
the Postmaster General, which be said few DAYS
ago. he would procure addressed the different post
masters throughout the United States also a state
ment from the Postmaster General with the answers
thereto, which he conceived covered the call of the
gentleman from New York. 1t gives the number of
free letters from Oct ober last and if the resolution
amended and passed, information could be
procured than has been sent 10 the Senate under a
call coPie. of which could I've procured if necessary.
MIR. PATTERSON read synopsis of his call on
the Postmaster General for information and gave his
reasons why he had made the call. 1t was done so
as to enable the Hou-e to ho, far reform could
be practically applied to that Department, and he
hoped the able chairman Of that committee Mr. Hop
kins would allow the resolution to pass, and get the
balance OF the ton, which not contained in
the call of the Senate, that the country might be
isfed.
The question then REQUIRED on the motion TO recon
slider, and it was decided in the affirmative
So the resolution was reconsidered
MIR. PATTERSON then offered a notification as
follows:
That the Postmaster General be requested TO fur
nish synopsis of the information obtained by the
circular, and such other information in his opinion
Is necessary"
MIR. HOPKINS rose to make few remarks; but
he was admonshed by
The SPEAKER that if a debate arose the rcsolu-
ton must lie over.
So the resolution was laid over under the rules
The SPEAKER then announced the next business in
order to be the
REPORT ON THE RULES.
Mr.. COBB rose and concluded his argument be
ing cut of by the morning hour the day on which the
question before the House.
Mr.. Z. asked those gentlemen of the North who
had heretofore stood by this rule, what would be
gained now by eecting the 25h rule and thus throw
open the doors Of the House for the reception OF
Abolition petitions If this should be done TO crafty
40 mi he
right TO petition, do gentlemen think for moment
that they will be satisfied On, no they will tell
you that is true you have agreed receive the pc
titions but you reject their substance and finally you
will be told that they must be referred to a com
mitee and report made. DO gentlemen suppose
they will even stop here? After having given way
upon all OF these points they will demand that you
must legslate upon them and then they would not be
satisfied unless the prayers they entertained be pass
ed into law This is what they are aiming at and
the reception Of their petitions to be laid upon
the table, will not satisfy them. lie regretted that
he had been compelled to allude this subiect but
the mere reception of those petitions would be III.
strongest argument that could be used in the non
sla,e-nolne States against those ub1 ad heretofore
voed in favor Of the 25th rule; the recedng from
their former position on this subject, would be
gument irresistible in itself against the they
had heretofore pursued. The reception of those pc
f'tlons will no, relieve them from the false issues
which have been made by the abolitions,s Def Re
their Constituents but III tend to strengthen them
IN the idea that their rights had been invaded and
they will finally Contend that their petitions mus, take
ihs Of all other petitions, and finally de-
mand The abolition of slavery in the District of Co.
lumbla. But, in all sincerity, he would tell his
Northern friends In this House that there is no half
way house-no neutral ground on this subject-and
the surest and safest plan for them is to pursue the
course heretofore adopted by Congress, which to
handle MOTTO touch not
IL he gentleman from Penn. (Mr. Bidlack) who
had heretofore voted for this rule willing TO go TO
the other extreme and finally that they shall
not only be received, but read and referred to
mittee that they may be reported upon and the sub
ject brought before this House He would undertake
TO answer for him and the other Northern gentle
men who have heretofore acted with the South up
on this subject They are not prepared to 60 to the
other extreme, to which they will be forced if they
give way and allow the 25tb rule to be elected