Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1844-01-16

were n,t ordered
| Tae qae lioo was then Pu, and cecidea III '"e a'
native: md then, notion oi
| NJ NKAY the H,use resolved iis-lf into a Com
,,,es nr The Vii l on ihr oil the Union, aud tool
up The hi
Mr. Mckay then called tor the reading OF t'e !.
md The accompanying papers from The s'ec'' t''y
Sac, upon the necessity u sf'eeJ '''''"
subject
They read.
Aner q s,of, time snert tha'ein-
NJ, Mckay moved iha' The commit er Sc
,r'. e.n,ni',ep ,os aod Mr.. WILKINS reported lo
th, u,ss ih,t lie Committee Of the Whole on tht
,hs lnon had lie Union generally under con-
,,asr,,i,, a,t p:.icu,lj 'ha bl' ior The relief :"
.na,;,,, saanen uod lac was Instructed 10 report y
n the House without amendment
I'll SPEAKER thea resumed the Char.
To- o,s.,.cn l,pn occurred upon IL enrrossmeht.
| Tno SPEAKER stated The question, 'sh-I thiS o'i
be ensros I'D And read th'rd lne:
i NJ DAVIS. al Kent .cky, here called foF the
reading Of The b so that he might vote UNDERSTAND
iney. - No o,
,,ossst and read d third TINA.
the question then REQUIRED on the passage oil Inc
b which was read by its ute, ana passed
Mr. ADAMS called for The orders OF the cay De-
ing the ,,,,., =. .,,,, p,.,rs
i MIR BIDLACk resumed the sH'. CT, ana inquired
if the question was 10 ,econmit with instructions:
The CHAIR re Piled IN tie affirmative
Mr. e. then SAID he IN favor oil Iecomm"''"g
a., o,, Int not with instructions He had Prev
ousiv sustained this rule 10 crafty Southern gehe-
men bu; he had found that they were not uneo ah hs
themselves with regard 10 this m1iter, men u wa ne"
time fo- Northern 10 Investigate more cio'' !! '''
subject winch charged % Southern G@n's"'e"'
an INFRINGEMENT upon their rights, when .hey aid nv.
,a-ea among tielns Ives, and who should ee un''su
upon a question in which was involved their Tign's
/ Mr. WISE said he concurred with that gentleman
The South should BE- unied upon thls su'l7c' ou' ~"
remarks would leave suspcion on thosi VINO nae
united (as we'll as those who had not,) and stood up
here IN defence of the rights OF the Sont1. II m2"'
be inferred that he was among tue number, ana nc
bepe1 the gentleman would them, as well as the
gentleman from North Carelma, Mr. ChnShah,) '''A'
! the South might know who thy were
| Mr. BIDLACk said the request VS. raas'na !,
one but he did no, think tha, he had rsh', under me
rules, 10 uentioa t!ei. names however Ne WOMB '
ton the Sta:es-lhcy were Fr9ihia'|.Notlh I"''i'"
and Tenness .e--thai gentlemen might ara" thet ""
differences and Deductions Bot, this fact before MN
he did say il was birh time for the Northern Deinocfa
cy who Ind st ,cd ~ on this sub rct, while some South
ern gentlemen had Welded the citace!-'he -o'h
which had kept the aool.t:onsts IN checS' 10 nqu,'
into this sub Jet clossly. Independent o. y','u
ING this important pom, here, they Iad cctns me esc
ION OF 1910 deserted lh.t Democracy, which had sns
tanned their rights and rallied under The banner OF nun
who glaried in having belonged to Oh aooil o" soe
III his youth With these iac.s before h'In now coo'u
Southern gentlemen eSS nm 10 20 iilthe wan ~
gone But il thus rule jectsd, he d'd nol WISH
to be classed among the abel ttonss Neilner he no'
his constituents were aboitoDiss; and 'iie o'ate "cH
he had the honor, in part, t, represent hau ie
Constitution, and prevented tie black popna..oh "'''i
her jurisdiction from exercising The fenl 81
which they had previously exercised. LUIS '''' 0'
| like A,ol,lion'
Mr.. HARALsoN asked MIR. B. II name the o,hei
gentlemen, besides ihe gentlemen from North Carolina
Virginia and Tennessee, 10 whom he had ai'udee, ahe
what ground lie had that justified the inference
Mr. b. referred 10 the vcte to lay this snhJsct upot
the table as the ground which justified bun IN the Po
sition.
NJ. BLACK: Sir, | voted to lay upon the table
and If the gentleman w yield The floor, WILL stale III"
reasons
Mr.. HARALsoN: A vote to lay upon the table, is
different from TIA. oi Yielding the subject
Mr.. b. said lie had hut few moments To spare, ahf
he could no, yield III, Aoor. He contnued and sac
the mere election of this rcc, would not produce
dissolution of the Union, and he was sorry TO neal
the gentleman from South Carolina Mr.. Rhet say tht
rights Of the South should be maintained, Union or M
Union.
Mr. BELSER said, in rising to address the House hs
was aware Of the Importance OF the SUBJECT u hos'
whom he re pre nted, and the constitutional lnrsdc
ton which had been claimed in this House, by thos:
who advocated the election Of this rule rs an infringe
ment on the constitutional right of the People to pet
ton for a redress Of grievances No man had hghe
regard for HE inesma5e privilege secured 10 tne rec
t,ion THIS body for redress of grievances, they have
eay, than himself Blu, this question was one OF TIM
most important that had been introduced IN TINS oou
since the adop ion of the Federal Constitution, and Il
which gentleman can speak properly unless he ma
investigated il aud understands II properly
However, in debating the question, he should endea
var 20 show by argument aud reasoning, referring 4
the time u high authority which cannot ne Or
MED q. c1n,toYered, IN Illustration OF his argument
Ina. The position assumed by gentlemen IS uutenab!e
Cha he Rulps had made 4 report II
this House during The absence Of two of its members
and the gentleman from Virginia (Nlr. Dromgooie) ha'
moved u recotnmit the report hack to the committee
which, if referred, would IN oil probability, nave Sc
cured The retention of the 9th rule but he was glad
heartily glad, that the gentleman from Georgia Mr.
Ri had amended thst motion by lnstfuctng tina
committee to report the ..5ih rule, which 's"nld be h
Of producing another report including TINS muci
erded goth rul,.
/ The honorable gentleman from North Carolina hat
said that he was merely favor of receiving these pc
,itions that they might be laid upon the 'nb'e I'm
doctrine of receiving petitions that they may sleep u
silence and contempt the Speaker table, anhIhale
al once and forever, the incstlmabe privilege OF RICH
to petition this Government The very argument thu
he has advanced to sustain him in his position, is
de6th-b,w 10 The right of petition, for which he ha
manifested an affected devotion If you carry gu, Thu
right Of petition IN lis purity, you must not only re
ccive them, but you mus: egs!ae, or the object OF TIT
prayers Of the petitioners lost sight of, and there
no petition at ALL The idea that the Constitution in
tended t. convey the right of petition was tar above
this qnoble. II Intended tho the People should peli
ton al subjects vi ch Congress has any Jurls
diccn, and THIS receiving petitions, that trey may qul
etly sleep in this House, mockey on this ihesiima
bile privilege. To this right t, the People IN 1t
purify, if you receive them, you are bound to 'gsl1te
winch the intent and meaning OF the Conslitu
ton on The riga. of petition.
The Constitution does not give the right to peto'
on any subject over which Congress has no constltu
tcral jurisdiction, and he denied the right - receive
much less 10 debate their contents. Why receive,
you cannot debate Why debate, if yoa canno
grant The prayer contained IN the petitions: The ar
gumen: aud The premises OF the genl eman from Mort
CaroIina are false in Themselves, because his premise
and logic annhlaes rather than secures ihis right,
denying t. Congress The constitutional power t. pass
aw ah"Iishjng slavery in he District OF Columbia :
The Constitution is Limitation of powers, beyon
winch cannot 20. IL we attempt to es'sl'ie upon
subject which have no jurisdiction, We Will
E like tie mariner at sea without compass. We mus
not go beyond that instrument, or, it we do We go De
yond our oa;ls OF office Gentlemen have referred t
The British Government, in illustration OF this subec
and commended that. while deny the right Of Cor
gress receive Abolition petitions, in that country IN
r,uht of pel,tion ws. unlimited and unrestraned. T