The Ottawa free trader. [volume] (Ottawa, Ill.) 1843-1916, 1844-04-26

QIeIi0aed By p.0seeui0r-There was no con-
su.alicn as TO what j, was best to do or what
course TO take except witness has stated Don
recolect that any course was recommended ex-
cept rs he has stated before Phillips nearestmigil-
Dor between him and witness, on the other road,
was Wallace, cxcep, Price, who lived about 90
rnls Of the road. Curryer lived on that road,
a5Ou, a mile from Phillips Ransicld lives next,
about a mile and a bali from Phillips; RubeUs
lives next, about two and half ml.cs or better.
Harrison Ruberts liyes a little nearer TO him than
witness docs by that road. Thinks he (Nitncss)
don't live more than two and a half miles fom
Phillips the way lie came.
D:rerk-llosfofd lives across the creek from
Phillips and Morss's little higher up the creek.
If Phillips had attempted To the creek on the
road ealn; from his house to iosiords 1, aud
found the creek too high To cross, and turned to
come to Witness house, 1t would necessarily
have lei him into the road he came. Phillips was
on foot Should think the creek could MOI be
crossed in line fyom Witness house to Hos
ford's, ur in a line from Phillips house TO hos
forI's, hy fjo,man. The reason Why they went
TO BARRIERS instead Of Hostords' was, because the
ford was better. The road t. Waacc's and the
other neighb r, witness has spoken Of leads down
by The edge Of the pra,rie The road from Phil-
lips to Ilo,fpsl's would lead rom the pralde dI-
reclly down into the timber. Philips gave Ru-
berls an explanation Of the reasons why be wan.
ted to 90 to n Justice In Wituco5s presence.
DfHfHfS c0Mqsek--S.alc what those rcg.
sons were.
Tie CJwi-Thc witness may answer 10 far as
to state whether il related to an a!Ialr with Morse
and so for as to identity the Transaction, but not
to % into the defendants explanation Of that ai-
fair [Exccpt,d to by defence.
Wf1ess--'l'he explanation had relation TO an
aT.ir which Phillips said bad occurred between
him and Morse. AZ he time Phillips was at wit
nesis house aud at Roberts be seemed to be in
Frca, distress of mind. Did not go back to the
examination at the meeting house after he left
BARRIERS. Phillips was at large and out Of Jail
last sumner, from May 10 November.
Crgss eeumintd-Knows Of Phillips starting
Tor Dixon and Chicago during that time. The
tine ne was out At Dixon be was away a h'tIr
while before the court. Left BARRIERS whea they
started to go to the meeting house, Was not at
the meeting house. Phillips went 10 Dixon 4:
saw him start: has reasons to believe he went
Docs not know that any body went with him 10
Dixon Knows lie went 10 Chicago: saw him
start. Don't know whether he got there. Wa
not at his house while lac was gone. Has not
talked with Phillips much on this subject. Talk
ed sumo with Dckey and Glover soon after the
affair took Place. Talked yesterday with the
counsel for defendant. IIrs not talked with Phil
lips on this subject since as much as he said about
it IhS. morning when hc came 10 witness.
Wilely Hdgeg ,ecaHed--Iinus Holiday, in
relating tie circumitlnccs to witness, told bin
that Morse wcnt out IN the morning with his dog
70 drive Phillips cattle oil his prairie. lie stated
that there was no division fence between them, or
it was down, and that he (Holday) had gone to
feed his hogs, and that, after he had fed them,
while passing from the hog pea to the house, he
head the discharge Of gun. Can't be positive
whether lac said ho saw the smoke or not, but
thinks 10 did. Some one about tho house re-
marked That Philips had shot the dog.
Question 10 HJHd0y by defence, to
Hedges that he (lloIliday) had remarked to some
one about the house that Phillips had shot Morse
OF the dog.
H,Jgls cgniinaed-!IoIIiday told witness that
some one about the house remarked that some one
had shot the dog, anl then some one remarked 1t
might have been Morse tina, was shot, and that
Holiday started himself aud went down.
HKday. question by dcfnce. -prcsumos he
told Hedges that he did not know whether Phil
lips took rest or not Did not tell Hedges that
thimblc of the gun, as Of witnesses own personal
knowcdgc might have said he was so Informed.
Hdgcs--l Holiday told witness they had track
cl the steps to The fence, and found a silver of
the rail, which they supposed was made by the
thimbe Of the gun in drawing the gun back. lie
stated that there was a schoulmastcr in Phillips
house, and the impression he had from the con.
vcrslion was iha, the evidence agains, Phillips
was principally from the schoolnastcr. II this
was a common matter, witness should state conf
denty that Holiday said that no one saw Phil.
lips shoot The magnitude Of the matter makes
witness more certain.
CroS eramiacd-liollilny stayed a, Witness
house abou, ID minutes. 4 man by the name Of
Wilson came wish him. Another Mr.. Holiday
camo Up shortly afterwards from Ross Grove
alone. Cam, any whether tho other Holiday
came up before Linus Holiday got oil his horse
Don't rccoCct Of Ross being there he passed
along the road 10 neighbours. The conversation
took place before Witness door, The biggest
part, II not tho whole, of the conversation took
place before the other Holiday camo up. The
other Holiday sttd but n short time. The con-
vefsalion was opened hy ashlng witness il he had
fccn James NJ. Phillips, Thinks he has talked
with Glover, Purple, Dckey, and Samuel Carter
since yesterday. They did not help him to rccol.
lcct these circumstances: remembered them yes
ierJay. Thinks he was recognized 10 appear
here; is tocrlbly positive he was. Thinks lloI.
ld'y said nobody saw Philips shoot Is not po-
titiyc. Carer came 10 him first last night and
onqu'cd Of bin. Carter then called on Glover
and Purple. Witness was asking about the affair
Of Holiday and don't know whether he told him
about Phillip ,ahiug a rest aud the mark OH the
fence as Of his own personal knowledge or from
information.
DFeci--SM,cd to Dickcy that lac thought he
would be .! no service, in order to get leave TO
SO home.
william Manson Was at Eslr. BarhrT's ON
the DAY OF the examination Of Phillips. Was u
constable at that time, Found Phillips there
Should think il was perhaps ! o'clock, p.N. per-
haps il was a little before noon upon reflection,
should say i; was before noon. Esqr. Ruhcus
was there with Phillips. Barber was an acting
justice at that time. lie pu, Phillips in Witness
charge, AS constable, without warrant, ut first