The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-10-11


sermon preached by the Rev d.. Tying who advocated
action by the House Of Bishops THE low tons IN which
ways in the galleries and aisIes when the auditors
isei tnat getting dinner time" made US lose most o.
Dr. TYSG simply rose to thank the gentleman for having
thought him OF sufficient importance to be quoted az au
tnorty ON any But his had referred Ia
the unity Of the church In and could not
be taken as argument that the universal church wai
united lie was ready TO adopt the resolution Of DR.
Hawks-it was ample for all purposes Of good And as
argument had been heard all Sides he trusted debate
would cease and the Of the House be tested on
mere question.
MIR OoILsr Of NJ j. was 10th to trespass but was for
the most extended license Of argument ne most cor.
daily agreed wish De- Hawks his professions OF love
for our common church-he sub cribed TO all his doc
trnal statements and his desire for harmony But it is
admitted that all the evils feared proceed from
that the church Is likely TO Oxford doctrines
what 10 the remedy2 Are enact laws to have Effect
both present and for future generations by listening to
the rmors ofgnoranee and prejudoel To those opinions
OF theworld beyond the pale OF our church. with which
we have nothing TO dot No. II we to stay here to
reiute all such charges may stay here tor The
only remedy has to be found the pastoral of
Bsh0ps and the Pastors in their different spheres. The
evils spring from ignorance OF the true construction o
the constitution Of the Church. from the hypothesis that
the church responsible for what individual Bishop
jot little responsible for it, The Bishops are wrong
they may he impeached il uttered in the dschaI
of epscopate function But their opinions be
brought up herlas the entering wedges Of disunion He
was unwilling TO permit the seeming conclusion to 80
to the world that we are disunited We may differ, but
we cannot quarrel we in the presence OF Christ
HIS will holds together. All prepared to conci
iaewe are to agree differ, and willing agree al
low any difference Of opinion within the limits OF the
tany Let US agree to differ, and differ by striving
to agree.
Rev. Dr. BROOKE Of Ohio, preferred the original reso.
luton, but AZ he was DESTROYS Of unity he was willing to
vote for tho substitute and should make but few Bei
remarks He would FIRST address himself TO those whs ad.
mtted there serious in the church. but
ed 1t wisest to take action. II the resolution be
defeated will be by those who 60 for peace. Tor they
hold the balance Of power. On them III rest the repon
d havn.
IN the church He had been charged with being conteI
ous, and with not being good churchman A. TO the
If in that earnestness he was led into too much vehe
mence, he trusted would be ascribed TO his ply scai
temperament As TO his churchmanship he held no sen
Dirnts which could not no their warrant in the writings
Ut the late venerable Bishop Of he agreed
with his theology and his views Of ecclesiastical policy
all in accordance with his The hands then that
wrote him mo chuTchman" must inscribe the
the tomb Of that venerable hose who agree in III.
fact that errors exist bring them to three points, but dis
agree that they OF radical nature and also
to the extent they spread ind the best means OF their
correction Let US review the errors to they
radical.
LIST It. is said that tradition and scripture the joint
rule OF tah This strikes to the head and lite Of the Pro-
testant Episcopal Church-itis ircplent Romanism.
Id The subject OF justin cation The here vrtu
ally Is the substitution Of personal for the
righteousness Of Christ the OF Justification be
fore God This is my stHed that he could not dstin
guish from the Romsh doctrine Justification and de
mands the Interpretation Of the House OF Bshopst clear
III The doctrine Of the real presence Of Christ in the
eucharist We told this presence not actually
or SPIRITUAL but something which il indie finite. but which
sanitation but is 10 like il that he could no, disn
guish 1t and would leave havs. In Effect there
no substantial difference between them II led to the Ro
mish doctrines and to the genufscon attendant its
ceremonias.
He born, confirmed and baptized In the Roman Ca
thoc Church, all bis early impressions were formed in
that communion and he could bear them record that
they have zeal Tor Gcd heart but not according
no believed in the existence Of these
rors and that they held and taught by the Protestant
Episcopal Church he should be strongly inclined TO 60
back to the church Of his iahers and fer himself
ior Inc union OF The two churches Il could
could be modified to suit all on the
oi these three errors and the oke OF the Pope
might be made comparatively light and easy. II ID.
qu stions which agitae church not the ques
ions Of 1.-THE Reformation he could What Pro
testantism and what Romanism.
An to the Limitation OF these errors II notorious
that ten of Bishops had felt it their duty bear
mony against then III their annual charges Were they
lighting against shadows did they mistake something
IN agnary Tor reality and contend against that Three
Bishops have sanctioned them with minor
OF No 90 OF the Oxford Tracts episcopal sanction
had been gwen to the whole series REV. Dr. Ogiby de
MED this and Dr. Brooke called to order for rreevan
cy, but after some conversation Dr. proceededl Their.
were publications Of the church in which this system oil
Tracaransm advocated defended and in some instan
ces, excused In view Of these facts, it be- said that
the leaven has not extended and that little thing
small that will die out Of itself He epprehepded not
he interposition Of the House required. The
I
duty OF its Legislators TO do all they to extingush
Gentlemen say let it alone, 1t will out Of itself They
therefore are voting down all concat0ry measures
likely to tend most tethe peace Of the Church To dis
courage the introduction OF measure and to vote il
down sfer il is introduced very different and tend
different results. II this down. 1t ia virtual Ii
cense to the Of Tractarianism. Its advocate will
say had been before general convention, and
dd not think them errors and majority Of them 80 ri
ding that they were not worthy Of notice. they wond
decide TO push the stem forward and push they will
In the meantime we who hold them errors, will
lift our voices against them louder and louder
the contention will louder and louder
Bishops will retail ate upon each other dcceses will dill
fer among themselves and we hang together church
until the next General Convention, we come here rip
Tor WHAT He would not venture to say what He held
however, as a distinguished gentleman in New York
lately said, the churIh must be corrupted purified OF
divided he could believe that any udcious expires
sion OF the House this subject would fan the fame
On the contrary by those now vascilang between this
and orthodoxy will be deferred those who have wander
ed, will say with modesy and humility that II is their
duty to reinvesgate the subject and If they 6nd them
as Se omy thing wee can do and met
any evil consequences let us use the best means 81
doing good in power let perform duty, and
mplored gentlemen to consider seriously before they
corded negative vote against measure calculated to
promote the peace Of the church.
The Rev. JOHN M. FoRBEs, OF New York followed
Our present space will not permit the insertion Of his very
argumentatve and excellent speech.
The Rev. DR.. JARVIS Of Connecticut ssid, he had been
anticipated in many points he had listened to all that had
been said with great pleasure but still he Of the de-
cded opinion that not one Of the propositions ought to
pass end he felt bound to vote against all because call
Ell the House Of Bishops to what in the nature Of
things impossible He wished to state few matters
Of TACT to which he competent Witness as having
recently returned from visit to England Notwithstand
ing the ease with which receive publications from
England Is scarcely possible for understand the
precise position oil the church there That there is
struggle in the Church OF England cannot be denied, but
i IL not generally doctrinal points OF Romsnism
IN, s pTnep p0m o. the struggle the
venton sympathise with that church in their srug
GLE they have been fstered and ensaved ny the
and the object oil the struggle is to get rid OF IT, II ID
that there II in country and scoisnd the
state of agitation In England, and the obv
BUS. In Scotland, the Episcopal Church. or as Is call
3D. the Catholic remainder Of the Church Of Scotland
been persecuted by the Sateit is In petition Of
with numerous secs around H. and is In the
'ame position have been obliged TO keep on our
panoply. The consequence 10, that they understand
church principles Scotland better than in Eng and
he asserted that they better understood than In
England This had been conceded to him by gentlemen
81 higA standing in England, that were better
condition. because their convocation had been put down
md they could have no meeting TO express their
nents = Parliament which consists of Roman Catholics
Dr. he would call them nomaniss for he denied that they