The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-02-21

The motion was briefly seconded by Lord HILL
The Marquis OF NoRMANRY made some remarks
on the present state OF Ireland. The Noble Mar.
qus, alluded TO the Regal Commission, and said
that he would much rather that Government had
informed themselves on the points In which sltera-
iions were necessary in the relations Of landlord
and tenant, and brought IN "A Bill tser own
sponslbillty, than that they had referred The
TO Commission. On the other topics in the Speech
ne was not then inclined to enter bu, he concluded
by stating that he would probably give notice Of a
moton on the state VI Ireland FOR the 18th of this
month.
Lord BouonAM expressed his satisfaction at an
Address which consisted entirely Of coucratu,atons
He never before remembered time in which every
quarter of the world was clear--no one part of the
political horizon was obscured. In regard to the
trials in Ireland he would alphabetically antici-
pate their event. or any question which might arise
out OF that event. There doub, that if Gov
eminent not sufficiently armed to preserve the
peace of the realm, Parliament weuld discharge its
duty and give the requisite powers. The only ques-
ton would be as 10 the fact OF the necessity. He
conceived, however, that policy cf Cancellation
was the most 10 be desired. His LoIdship approved
| OF the Royal Commission, which, however, was
matter OF great de'lcacy, and required 10 be
ted with great regard to the rights Of private pro-
pery. In allusion to the passage in the Royal
Speech respecting the relations with France, the
Noble Lord pronounced glowing eulogy on NJ.
GuIzot, ''the able, honest, and vrtuous French
Minister of Foreign Affairs and bitterly denounc-
ed the enemies of that Minister, who were ing
to excite the people Of France rather of Pans,
by keeping alive the flame of hostility towards
England. The Noble Lord then turned to Ameri-
and addressed a remonstrance 10 those whom he
called his clients of the United States, on the duty
OF supporting the character and credit Of their
country.
The Marquis Of CLANRIcARDK said that he did
not offer any opposition to any loIc in the Speech
except that of Ireland. On other points The Speech
was discreetly worded that objection could
be made TO it, In regard 10 Ireland, he dissat-
sted with the language employed as to prospective
measures. He learned from The speeches he had
heard that Government had IN contemplation no
measure for the good of Ireland this session. The
only measure they pointed nj related 10 the elective
francblse-an important subject cer,a!nly-but was
this measure for increasing the resources and I'M
proving the condition OF the countryl
Lord CAMPBELL complained that the Speech held
out no prospect OF any measure for the improve
ment of the law.
After few words from the LORD CHANCELLOR,
the Address was agreed TO
The House OF Commons began its proceedings at
half past SIX, with the usual reading OF Her Majes-
tvs Speech.
WELL Sc conded the motioh
Mr. HUME said that, though lie had never heard
| a less Objectionable Address he could not entirely
concur with the last spc akcr in his glowing descrp-
non of the state of the country lie admitted,
however, that there was gratifying prospect Of
improvement He objected TO the practice Of vot-.
! ing the Address to the Royal Speech
without sufficient time TO consider OF it-a day
ought TO be allowed for that purpose. He express
ed This satisfaction at the prospect Ct peace be-
| tween England and France, aud was pleased to
| tearlessly visiting that country, must have tend
| ed TO bring about a better understanding between
| them. He spoke with satisfaction OF The treaty
with China, and pointed out the Chinese tariff as
| lesson to this country IN sound political economy.
In regard TO Scinde, he disapprovea much of the
proceedings OF Government, that he Ind prepared
| an amendment on that topic but II had been rem
defed unnecessary by the. notice which had been
! given OF motion on the subject On the subject
| OF the Corn Laws, Mr. Hume blamed the Prime
Minister for having allowed the country TO remain
| 0uuht his - He then defended
| the Anti-Corn Law League, aud proceeded 10 con-
| tend for financial economy decrease Of taxation,
| and Tree trade and stated that he had amend
mcnt to propose TO the eleventh paragraph OF the
speech. 1t to the effect that Her Malesiys at
ten,ion ought to be called 10 the necessity Of re-
peang the laws which prevent free trade. IN corn
and provisions, and all those restrictive and prohibl
tory laws which give monoPolles to certain classes
to the deirment OF the rest. This amendment he
accordingly moved.
| Lord JOHN RUSSELL began by saying, that il the
| amendment Of the member tor Il ochdale was meant
declaration of the right Of the majority Of
| the House 10 stop the supplies, such declaration
was totally unnecessary and II IT was meant as an
| ntmation that the supplies, necessary not merely
for the purposes Of the crown but for maintaining
the honor and safety Of the country, were 10 be
stopped by obstructive minority, he must oppose
| a direct resistance to such a principle. (Cheers.)
With regard to the speech and address, the noble
| Lord SAID he was glad 10 lind that the topics It
| touched upon, and the manner IN which they were
| treated, met his concurrence, 30 as TO enable him
| to vote Tor the address as originally moved On the
subject of Ireland the noble Lord sad that though
the manner in which that topic was treated in the
speech. precuded him from entering into Il ; yet
he felt II necessary TO say few words on the sub
jeci. | quite agree, (suid the noble Lord,) that
while the trials are pending before judicial ribu-
nal in that country, IT would be impossible, with
proper regard 10 the proceedings III that Court Of
Justice to discuss certain topics one way or the
other, without involving the conduct 81 persons who
now appear 10 defend their condsct be lore the
Judges. Hear, hear) But wish 'c~, most de-
c,I and, nth. 10 IL, m "A
discussion upon the affairs oi lreaod, 10 preclude
any supposltion that | either give nay APPRECIATION
to the conduct whic hhas been pursued 10y The gov
| ernment- (cheefs from the opposition tenchcs)-
or 10 the unfortunate proceedings which have 90
cured IN lreland-any suPpositlon that am at all
satisfied with the measures which the Crown hes
now undertaken, or Is Proposir9 TO M I"ht' wan
reference 10 tho calamou- and unio!,ru.tc eiatc
OF that country. (Cheersl VITA ~ .rN words
! will at once quit that subject (nC-r) wlsh,
however, TO cay, as my Right Hon trend reminds
me, that having given notice ot motion upon the
whole state OF Ireland III which intend 10 ask the
House 70 go iuto Committee upon that subject,
mean TO brDg on that notion subject only 10 the
suppostion, which think will be allowed to be a
correct one, that the trials now proceeding IN Ire
land VIII be concluded by that time. Uicai, hesr)
| II not, shall ark the House 10 give me, some
future day, that precedence which have nov, OBJ
tanned for the day for which the notice stands
With regard TO China, the noble Lord said that he
was glad to find 1t now made subJcci Of congrat-
ulaton that England had NOT DUNG the time Of
the late government, submitted 10 the ailTonis and
injuries which the Emperor of China would have
put upon this country and her merchants. ! am
glad. said the noble lord that did not submit 10
the gnominy of having British subjects confined ~
prison the authority a foreign state, ana
threatened with death il they did not agree to GER
tain peremptory terms; lut hat we did 'indcate
British honor; and ] am glad that the result so lar
from being so calamious ~ u was then Thought VI
would turn out that so far from the Chinese go
vernment having reason 10 be encouraged, as II
was said they were encouraged. IN their resistance
10 our lust demands those demands have been en-
forced and by the naval and military skill Of our
. naval and military commanders in that country,
and the Diplomatic skill 81 sir H. Poitinger, acting
upon the Instructions o my noble memo, the mem
her from Tiyerton, we have obtained terms which,
50 far from being dishonorable, have given US
hopes Of advantages greater than we have ever yet