Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1844-01-11

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lie we'd there could be no dahee' :" ee
their constitutional fgn'S. $50
Mr. DUNCAN having concluded -
NJ, v BROWN obtained the floor, and inquired
If the Sneaker whether this DEBATE WoOid P'oos
yond the morning hour -, .h,o ,ro,Id he
-ssed for The day by the expiration of the morning
hour, r,,;o, to
Mr.. GIDDlNGS, who SAID he was nnoer an oo.s
lion I, his colleague (Mr Dnncan) Tor Inc queSuv"
No had nropounded and should respond 10 II win p'ea
-. l. ia be ad-
d,osssd tho peooe of Ooerlin. They were mostly 81
that class who are called the Liberty fafty. M a.o
course of his remarks he endeaVofeo u coh'''es '
that separat. political orea'za"on, ~. - tho peo
pose of maintaining the constitutional f'gp'o u VI.
Ie of ,he free St1t-s in regard 10 slavery, was un
coss,rv II was one of The objections oil these me"
that Southern shareholders would never be Pefsuaoeo
10 supoott the Constitution IN the sp'fit IN "h'c' = VI
adopted On this point (Nr. u, sa'o) ne r"o'
To uersuade them that they were IN error mat 0o
e,n men who loved the Constitution, and VINO Weie
sworn to support it, would turn their attention 20 'hos
r;ohts aud would meet on the line oil tne Cohs'.
ton and would unite with Northern men IN the man
tenance of all The rights OF all thr SUITES ne
d hai he quoted instances of Southern slaTehoioeis'
hon, no resnected and who had shown themselves
w,lnq In meet the North upon the true constitution
line He said he then stated that ne wooiu feao &c
ter from Southern man, and siaVehoioef, ~ VIZ
his own sentiments were set iorth IN iuii' ne ''cu
read the letter. and on call Tor ihe name' ne
il to be Clay That he went on to say that II was
Al Cl,v me of the wealthlest, NEST pure, ana hoe'
influential men in Kentucky. Mr.. g. said ne went OIL
10 say that he had authority TO say that HENRI o'
would thus support The Constitution, but that from S
acknow ledged patriotism and deVol'oh 10 ms oouy
,onn rph,s of the North, firmly as he would those
of the South.
Mr.. G. said that he was informed that an editor was
prcssn., who had a few days previously pnohshea
vile falsehood saying that he (Mr. CD had been e.
need from Congress- for presenting resolutions lor Inc
g;ssoIrt;on If The Union and he then called public al
,ention 10 this libel and SANDER That editor hao seen
f, 10 publish the msreprese htiton to when MS col
league MT Dnncan) had referred, which was an uh
mitigaied falsehood ~,
Mr. DUNCAN inquired whether his colleague SNiF'
Giddnrs had stated to the meeting that the letter was
from Cassius NJ Clay, and whether his colleague mao
ever contradlc,rd The report IN writing:
Mr.. GIDDINGS replied, that he had stated to The
meeting that it was from CGssus NJ Clay ana tina. ne
ern,cssv said that Heury Clay had been called
an as 10 these points That when he first saw the re-
port taken from the "Richmond Enquirer ne had IN
stantly written to the Editor stating these facts and
the letter bad been published in that paper ana olhefs
and his colleague had not it, the fault lay not on
himself.
the oentle,Dans petitions would turn out Little like
The course of the gentleman in this case Inc gen
tlemau had asked for indulgence of two minutes !;
he had spoken five minutes, and he (Mr. b appre-
hended that whenever they received their petitions,
whenever they Welded to them this right of petition,
about which they were clamorng, they would not be
content TO stop there, but that they would 60 on ana
ask them to take another step. From step 10 step,
they would march in this question, until they succeed
ed m accomplishing their final purpose.
Mr., L S object in addressing the House now, was
moi for effect out of this House. Whatever ne had TO
saw, was for The purpose Of producing II possible
some impres sion here He was in favor OF recomm't
ting this report because il did not contain the 2lst
rule SO much as because it contained no rule AT all
upon the subject There had been time when they
had M rule upon this subject But when was that I:
II was time when the fell spirit Of fanaticism had
ne yer invaded this Hall. Then they had rule upon
the subject. Bat when the petitions had begun 10
come here in such vast numbers, the large number OF
persons here TO act upon each petition us presented,
made il absolutely necessary that there should be some
rule regulating and governing their action upon them
IN former times they had regulated this SUBJECT by eso
luton They had had the Patton resolution IN old tunes;
hey had had the Pnckney resolutions and had hnay ar
rived the 2Ist rule When that rule was adopted what
had they been told : What had the gentleman from
(Mr Adams) and perhaps the gentle
nan from Ohio (Mr Gidtings,) what had John c
Clark and Seth NJ. Gates, of New York-what had
number Of individuals upon this floor then told them
they mad opposed the rule not because they favored
,r would establish abolition, but because II was an
'bridgmant of the great constitutional right OF peon
Thew had avowed their opposition TO the rule upon that
principle, and upon that principle alone What did
hey hear now Did these gentlemen now hold the
same language Did they yet hold the same senti-
nens What did they hear from other gentlemen,
who were now their friends, and friends upon whom
hey reled-men who would go with them IN sustain
no the great compromises of the Cnnstitution-men
who loved the Constitution, and would go down with
t. it necessary, their struggles TO maintain it
The SPEAKER here interposed, stating that the
morning hour had expired
Mr. SAUNDERS moved suspension of the rules
10 enatle the gentleman from Tennessee (hlr A. V.
Brown 10 proceed with his remarks.
After some conversation, the question was taken ana
decided in the negative.
So twolhrds not voting in the affirmative, the rules
not suspended, and the subject went over until
Monday.
The first business in order the disposition ofthe
Executive communication heretofore received, setting
forth the names Of the parties entitled to, ana the
amounts respectively due, of the funded and nniu"deo
debt, payable nm presentation.
After some conversation, the communication was re-
erred to the Committee of Ways and Means, and or
dered to he printed
The SPEAKER laid before the House sundry Ex'
eculive communications.
On motion of Mr. c. j. INGERSOLL the House re-
solved itself into Committee of the Whole on the state
Of the Union Mr. DAVIS of Indiana, in the Char) and
the consideration OF the bill TO refund the fine
imposed on Gen. Jackson by Judge Hall. For which
oill Mr. Stephens had offered substitute, approPrat-
ng one thousand dollars with interest, tor the use oil
Gen Jackson; provided that nothing therein contained
should be construed censure on Judge Hall, or as
n any way questioning the proprety OF his decision
The Committee addressed by Messrs. WELLER,
DOUGLASS, and McCLERNAND in favor of the
original BILL and by Mr. DlCKl NSON in favor OF the
substitute
The debate was continued during late hour. From
quarter past three to four o'clock the attendance was
lutte thin, whole rows OF benches being unoccupled,
md there being something over one hundred members
resent After the last mentioned hour the attendance
ecame fuller, and some symptoms OF night session
we're apparent. ,,,
The last Speaker was Mr.. McCLERNAND. When
lie had concluded
Mr. SCHENCK obtained the floor, but yielded $50 the
reporter unders,ood) to enable
Mr. BARNARD 10 offer the following amendment TO
he substitute blk
Strike out the provso and insert the following words
And hereby declared, that this remission OF the
inc aforesaid shall be deemed taken an express
ion Of legislative opinion, affirming in any way, or TO
any extent Whatever the right of military comman
Ter suspend the habeas corpus, or 10 proclaim or
stablish martial law in this country or in any part OF
l. or forcbly interrupt suspend the judicial power
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