Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1844-12-07
rIo1Tcr 0r REPRESENTATIVES,.

to-day, namely:
From Nelc Ymk-Charles II. Carroll and
Jeremiah Russell.
( From Vire,nio-George w. Summers.
/ From MSiSippi-Wiiam II. Hanmelt.
AGRICULTURAL SOCIETIES.
| Mr. PRATT gave notice that he would mere
after move for leave 10 introduce joint resoi"-
lion to authorize the Secretary Of War TO loan
/ such marques and tents as he may think pro-
per. whenever officially requested 10y any regular
| IL organized Stale Agricultural Society, TO pro-
! mote the convenience Of the farming anu me
chanical community and the public generally,
| al the annual agricultural fairs and cal,e shows
| in the diieren. States OF The OnIon-il being dis.
tincly understood that such State societies shall
be responsible for all loss OF damage. and That
the articles be taken and returned safely without
any expense TO the Government.
ELECTION or PRESIDENT
Mr.. DUNCAN having given notice on Mon
day, the I'd inst OF his intention TO ask leave 10
introduce a bill, offered 10 introduce the bill,
(without making the motion Tor ieaVe, ano seh'
the bin to the Clerks table.
Mr.. ADAMS suggested that the proper time
10 introduce bills was when resolutions were call
ed for.
The SPEAKER said that that was the direc-
ton OF the one hundred and fourteenth rule, bnt
the House could permit the introduction oil bill
al any other part OF the sitting.
Mr.. DUNCAN moved that the rules be sns-
pended, in order tina; the question ON leave might
now he taken.
Aitersomc informal conversation on the point
OF order
The question was taken on suspending the rule.
and, on the demand OF Mr.. Duncan was decided
by yeas and nays as follows: Yeas l19, nays
none.
Leave being given, Mr.. DUNCAN introduced
his bill
I Mr.. DUNCAN stated, in explanation, that this
bill was the same which had passed the House last
winter and had been sent to the Senate. lie saw
no need therefore of referring II 10 any standing
committee but il any gentleman desired that II
should 60 to Committee Of the Whole tionse
on the state of the Union he should offer no OBJ
lection. The bill had been fully discussed, and
passed by an overwhelming majority.
Mr. ELMER said that the gentleman from ONO
was certainly greatly mistaken ihe supposed This
to be the same bill which had passed The House
/ at the last session. II was not the same bill
It was, indeed, the same in principle; bnl scarce
! worl in il was the same. Mr.. b. thought high
" proper that it should be submitted 10 one OF the
standing committees Of the House. The Com
mi,tee on the Judiciary was, in his opinion, the
most appropriate.
| (Severa voices: "There is no such committee
YETI
This was verv important bill. Among
other things il required that the Electors oil Pre-
sident and Vice President should be chosen in
all States by popular vote but in some States
they were appointed BY the Legislature. tie
appreherded that on examination The bill would
! be found 10 be in conflict with The Constitution.
Mr.. DROMGOOLE said, thai in the existing
state OF the country, he presumed such bill
would encounter no objection in any quarter;
and the only reason for any delay in passing il,
was, that time might he allowed 10 have it duly
| examined and perfected in It's details. II was
proper ii should be printed and submitted 10 every
member. The principle was now universally
conceded The only question was as 10 The details
s, He would therefore move that The bill! I've COM
mitted to a Committee Of the Whole on the state
of the Union, and that il be printed. Tomorrow,
probably, the House would be in readiness 10
perfect lis details and pass il without further de-
| lay.
Mr. BARNARD would prefer that it should
| first 20 to a sanding committee. Our rules con-
| templaled such committees ard they were raised
for this very purpose He submitted 10 the Chair
whether a motion that the bill be committed 10
the Committee Oh the Judiciary, when such a
committee should be appointed, would not be IN
orderl
The SPEAKER reminded Mr. B. that The
would have preference.
Mr.. BARNARD continued IIe hoped that
neither the introducer of the bill nor any other
person would so far misunderstood him as 10
ina CINE that he hal any objection 10 the bill, or
the least desire 10 obstruct The attainment OF the
object il had il view all he desired was, that in
this case the usual course should not be depart
ed from. He believed it was at least very rare
course, if, indeed, il was not now proposed for
The first time 10 refer bill Introduced on leave
BY private member al once II Committee Of
The Whole House. his Impression was that the
practice OF tie House had been the other way
He should, therefore submit 4 motion that th,
bill be laid upon the table until the standing com
mitlees should have been appointed, avowing II
at the same time as his intention 10 call i; up tic
very first moment The committees should have
been appointed.
Mr. DROMGOOLE raised question Of or
der The gentleman might move 10 lay his mo-
ton on the table, but not The bill.
The CHAIR oycrrued the objection. and de-
clared The motion 10 be in order.
Mr.. C. J. INGERSOLL. asked whether il was
no usual for the House 10 adjourn about this time
to Monday, in orier to allow time for the appoint
mcnl OF committees
The CHAIR said il had not been usual until
Thursday.
Mr.. DUNCAN demanded The yeas and nays
on the motion To lay on the table; and they were
ordered
Whereupon Mr. BARNARD withdrew his
motion.
And the question recurring on Mr.. Dromsoolcs
motion 10 refer and print
Mr. ELMER asked whether it would not be
in order 10 move 10 postpone the consideration Of
the bill until Monday ncxtl
The CHAIR replying in the affirmative
Mr. TT ME,R said he WAS unIer the imDrpS-
sion thai this bill would not answer the purpose
for which il was pro.esseGy introduced. He had
himself drawn the bill which passed at the las:
session, and he knew this 10 be a different bill
Hoping that il might be submitted 10 one Of the
standing committees OF the House, he would move
that its consideration be postponed 10 MONDAY
next He hoped the author OF The bill would con-
sent 10 this course.
MIR. DUNCAN said, that this would, pract-
cally, he effected Nv the motion OF the gentleman
from Virginia, (Alr Dfomgoolc.) What more
did the gentleman want! The bill of last Winter
went 10 the judiciary Committee, and IL was
more than month before Mr. ID. could get il
cut of their hands, and gel it up Tor The action OF
the House There was no necessity whatever 10
send the bill to any of the committees. 1t had al
ready been considered By The same gentlemen
who probably would now compose the Judiciary
Committee The members knew all about II; for
,hlS btll was Inc same III SupSGHCS WIN Ois-i,
though il was not word for word and letter for let
Ter Identical with il. Mr. d. insisted on the yeas
and nays.
Mr.. HAMLIN moved as an amendment that
the consideration OF the bill be made the special
order of the day for Monday He made this
motion, because he believed, that if there was one
measure which, more than all others, deserved
and demanded the mos. careful consideration,
this was that measure. AIr II. had no doabt
,ha, the House would find that, on this bill al
least they could attain 10 unity OF action. The
gentleman from Ohio was mis- AIKEN il ne thought
that this was even in semhancc the same bill
with that introduced last winter. Its principle
was Inc same bu, the bill itself was quite DIFF
ferent. Mr.. II. desired that there should be as
early action upon i; as practicable and he be-
lievetl early action would as probably be attained
in this way as in any other. He trusted his friend
from Ohio would MOI believe that he was opposed