The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-05-10
American Anti Slavery Society.

American Anti Slavery Society.
The abolitonists congreSated in the city this
week, have been in the most tremendous state OF
excitement and agitation for the last two or three
days, in consequence OF the violent feud which has
broken out in all its force between the Garrison
party. and the adverse faction led on by Mr. Earl
The ferceness and bitterness with which this quar-
rel has been conducted are indescribable, and the
scenes OF violence and folly which have occurred,
have been quite unparalleled out of the limits of the
abolition party Yesterday the great discussion
took place on the following resolutions -
Resolved That political union in any form between
slave holding free community must necessarily in.
volve ,he latter in the gulph OF slavery.-Thereore
Resolved That secession from the present United States
is the duty of every abotions since no one
take office or deposte under its constitution
without violating his antsavery principles and render.
ing himself an abeor of the slave holder in his sin
After they were read document laid before the
Conference embracing the views declaration Of prn-
ciples slavery it comprehensive and detailed
uons and stood annexed to them the subject matter
Of the debate. Mr. Garrison was in the chair
MIR E.hLr proposed an amendme 4 on the ground that
ths resolutions inconsistent with tenure OF Citizen
ship, and involved self Punishment from the country
MIR. WHITE moved amendment to that again. upon
DIR CmAssiso addressed the conference lie was op-
posed to the views of the gentleman lMr FOSTER who
OF the abolitonists and that there difference be-
tween mans duty as member of the Union and
individual between the rights and duties OF states and
citizens He r commended that what the duty Of
one that Of the other As to voting for candidates.
he said it was matter whether person voted or not,
for the very withdrawal from the ballot box amounted
expression Of opinion, of political action and whether
voting not. it could be avoided. He told them to
look at the difference Of the meeting of the Liberty party
last night ard theirs What the reason hawhile was
thronged that nearly empty Because the other
plain and practical way without drawing distinctions
which would not hold good
Mr.. FOSTER wished to ask Mr. Z. question If Mr.. G..
thinks that he has given good Tor the meeting Of
the other party last night being larger than this why
Convention at Baltimore larger again.
Mr. CnaSso III res. S. wa: precisely the same
of their duty citizens and their duties ndiy duals
LADY-Eating bread and butter suppose. Laugh
Mr. CHAyrINo-well you will he ready dare say, to
recognize that basis for all others iiuch laughter
Another person made jocular remark, which afforded
much Amusement, and Mr. Charming proceeded
The question is whether there certain debts due by
US to this country as citizens put not as he
duties to the State fulfilled he showed himself
worthy lApplause) He who fufls his duty TO- his
country be faithful to himself first Of all and in
order TO do this
Mr.. w. PaLLrs wished to ask Mr.. c. If he used the
word citizen" in its technical meaning who
subject Of the United States or in its general meaning,
individual member Of American society
Mr. CLAIMING replied that he used 1t in the general
sense man was not CITIZEN Of the United states in
consequence Of the adoption Of the constitution for that
adoption the act Of citizens prioo its existence lie
called upon them to give this imperfect and lying con-
stitu,ion Hear hesr) The principle Of vitality which
was in their institutions was not in consequence Of few
society and nations. but God lie people adopted the
the will Of Providence with power alter abolish
constitution BY doing so they did not cease being ct
No. they demanded Of these places do their duty and
have good Government from the Legislature and give
them back the Constitution The nation had committed
agreat SIM and they should repent and show it by
callingshat constitution What they there for hut
to press that will be lesson of the past and
hope of the future He not for dssoving the Union,
but for strengthening it. II they had not understood the
question. by reason of blind self interest He
support wrong did not lesson our obligation to do right
it rather increased it. They must then nation, take
back this Constitution which was adopted darkness
q crime against the human against God and their
connections; they must retract it Immediately. No
could get rid Of his obligations, but they were met
there in obedience to higher impulse than the feeling Of
allegiance to State they were there from sense Of duty
as individuals.
his views about political union: if he did not make
distinction between natural and artificial unions-between
those made by God those made by man, and
such rested on slavery.
MIR. CnASSrso agreed with his friend Mr.. Q, and
would 60 with him heart and hand. lie wished every man
to weigh well and understand what they were about
Their proposal OF the most solemn steps taken in
this any other age and wished for his part to stand
rghtwith heaven for IT, believing that would have in
fuence the remote events, and many perso
even to eternity The only real union was the union OF
only one in the world able to grasp it MIR
argue that the Constitution imperfect because framed
when not possessed of perfect notions Of oon.
sttutional liberty, and should be altered
Mr. EARLE asked Mr. Claiming did he not think 1t was
the duty of those originating movement Of this kind to
ask the opinion OF the other States to reform before they
acted.
Mr. CLAIMING replied that they bound in the frs,
place make known their views and point out the evils
to all interested.
Mr. EARLE again asked If Mr. c. thought it the duty
of citizens to abstain from voting until the constitution
was amended, the evil pointed out or reformed
V0IcEThat Is az much as to ask, person to COM
NIT sin for little while to present evil: "a laugh)
Mr. CHARMING said that it was difficult o
ny questions fully the time short II
half an hour it could be done. There efectual
means Of in the ballot box He ght
the ballot box used by the enemies of their
TO work against them long they convinced that
was good means Of opposing them no exerons should
Mr. EAaL thought the not satisfactory. As it
must be admitted that government could please all
Mr. c. would recommend that for The sake of those little
objections man was to absent himself from the ballot
box.
MIR. CLAIMING said that long he thought govern.
supported slavery he by the exercise OF
his vote sanction that governments that the ques.
uon
Mr.. EARL-suppose government right In nine parts
and wrong in one, would you oppose it
Mr.. CHANNIro--The spots the may be seen but
no matter how black they were, long they did
eclipse the eulgence Of that luminry his light
ecpsed and not deprived of his benefits Slavery
it, Qiear hear) In reply to further ques ion
from Mr. Earl he continued to that 1t evinced
unavodably; that was bound to attend to the high
convictions Of duty, The government being false
base one and usnrpaiion, Americans bound
liberty an justice and changeit (iear hear
Mr. CHARLES BRISLrY said that his views were precise
ly the MIR. Channings lie quoted the words Of
Emerson that the disorder ind agitation OF ndivdu.
ais prevented local anarchy Every man, in acting
his Individual convictions was high q member Of the
human family Of man, and promoted social ORDER al
though individual anarchy. He wished to have unanmi
ty among the society He used the word social in the
and the word POLITICAL and he felt that they
should deprecae oil support Of slavery and
men. man should consider the welfare Of the town,
county, city state to which he belonged in his indv
dual capacity and in the exercise Of that right how could
he give his for State governed by laws which he
condemned, for a who had set up lie for creed
shaped in the Of little ballot boxl The condition
OF going the ballot box that OF who de-
cared lie to be the truth, and by doing he contrace
sin, and every thing he could do he would TO con-
vince the people the constitution lie and pro-
mote its (chees) The question remained after