The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-04-17
Meeting Of the New York Farmers Club.
meeting was held uestereiau of tina A ssociation

Meeting Of the New York Farmers' Club.
meeting was held yesterday of this Association
IN the rooms of the American Institute. Amongst
those present, were General Tallmadge, Colonel
Clarke, Dr. Stevenson, Dr. Gardiner, Msssrs. Stlll-
man, Brown, Boswell, Meigs, and great many
others, who either took part in, or came to wit
ness the proceedings, which were of a very useful
and interesting kind
Gen. Talmadge was called to the Chair and
MIR. Meigs, who acted as. Secretary, proceeded TO
read paper on grating, which was submitted to
the club by Mr.. Brown. This highly useful
branch was treated of at great length, and con-
tanned PARTICULAR, yet condensed treatise on graft
ing. The different modes were .pecifed and COM
pared; those mos, suitable for different times,
places, and species of trees correct specification
OF the mode Of successfully performing and secu-
ring the operation, With variety OF illustrations Of
various kinds.
When the paper had been read, vote of thanks
wa was passed mem con- to the writer, for which the
munication. The Chairman then said that the
meeting was open tor any gentleman to make what
ever observations, on the subject before them
grafting-and to throw out any new or valuable
suggestions, which might occur to him thereon
lie said that at these meetings they did not follow
the plan OF speaking. Finding that they could at
tam their purpose as well by means ofconversation,
Willingly
JOIN, and let them have collectively, the benefit
OF their individual experience
very interesting conversation then took place and
the different modes, chip, stock slip bud grating &C.
Dr. Stevenson recommended the India Rubber az
compost instead of generally used II was found TO
all the purposes and was not dsagreeabe to han
die like the others. He then submitted to the meeting an
ingenious but useful plan Of cutting the splice joint
cured the junction Of the surface Of the inner bark
matter o. T rate Importance to the surety Of the pro-
falls scaop budding" Mr. Boswell n rsa
and illustrated PARTICULARLY he comport ussa ~ n
case was compounded Of h. of tar ib ofbeeswax and
that this inconvenent plans that the comnost r
qrcd to be kept warm previous application to the
JOINT engraitsd and that there was surety in avoiding
too great degree OF heat, as it detrimental to the
juice Of the bark. Dr. Stevenson next drew the attention
OF the meeting TO the subject OF grating the walnut He
said that rreat could made by due atte
ton to the matter The Spanish chestnut had been tried
in this country but hardly instance of over one in fty
living through the severe winter was known; vet by
grating them walnut stocks they could be easily &C.
climated Mr.. Boswell thought that IL the seed were
planted good fruit could be procured Dr. Stevenson
said that he had ascertaned from experiment that howe
er inconceivable that tree should prodnce f,t
differing from that from which the seed came it was true
IN THIS case IL the Chestnut seed selected with all
due care the fruit from the young tree would be found to
possess qualities Of flavor appearance, &C., and to be
here started Mr. Gardner He called her attention 70
the assertion made by good credible authorities
IF frni<
might be engrated and flourish on the same stock Far
ms part ne da not see its perpeuty. Nevertheless had
Plny, the younger, who was considered crea;h ny
thority, on matters relating to Natural History THE
,opc excMed much interest and minute made OF it,
likely tor the purpose OF future investigation -
The CHAIRMAN then rose to address the Club He said
there was topic OF what he considered great importance
to which he begged their attention. because il was not
only OF interest to them but the st ate and tho nation
at large He said from all he could learn that there was
ground tor apprehension that deterioration in QUALITY
d WI qohuo
wheat crop in this State and that the evil wa grnwinr
one no. tas less Tor its not being recognized or known
II proved that the soil deteriorated He would use
an Lnstreton when they referred back to the early
p se s 81 e. in this country and when
too high an average pH Il isast they f s con-
in the same places Much benefit might be derived
ON systematic enquiry and he would think it advisable
information from them their mode OF culture to pro-
samples of the wheat also the soil and such other
remedy He wished it to be understood that his remarxs
intended to promote enquiry than assertions of
what was known to be true ne would however venture
to that the production of the river counties OF
this State would not be more than ten or twelve
bushels per acre. and they had reason to fear that
than fifteen bushels Agricultural chemistry
demonstrates that what taken of from the strength and
vgour Of the soil in the production of crop will be
about onetwonteth of its aggregate fertility f prov es
that they were unjust to the SOIL and return nothing
that they could not expect to be
nerous and in this they had solution of why the crop
not equal to what 1t twenty years ago Il
well known to the Virginia planters what the result,
observable in the wheat crop there and the population
felt much that they emigrating to the newer
truth that following in the footsteps o,
the old States and that II do not alter our alan Our
inhabitants will be obliged in time to emgrate too In
the lace OF this TRUTH that onewenet OF the fert iiity
OF the soil Is annually taken from it by Cropping who
would say that manure not requisite they were unjust
to themselves and the soil boh If they did not enquire
how far they might restore TO its richness and be for
the interest Of agriculturers and farmers to the
oeptices what might enrich the soil and teem.d with
what might he made profitable the farmer
The Soda works Gas works ashes salts and every filth
and ohal judicously used, would surerabundantly
supply all the loss Of the soil; hope gentlemen with
not accuse,me Of talking politics If aluds to dirt piled
Ophamia and other diseases of being sent to the
country where would be OF use and on its way give
ed TINT the owner Of Potash mSnaasorv ~ar m Ss
of Lake Champain caused the remains to be thrown into
the Lake whilst not OF agrcultnrists CONTIGUOUS
sought to benefit by the productive qualities IL Contained
lie much pleased the benefit derived from the dscus
sion horticulture, and he Certain that the estab
lshment OF regular correspondence with branch sooe
ties would do much good and impart lessons Of wisdom
lie made the remark without any angon 10 details
draw from others their information.
DR.. STEVENSON called on 10 make n Eew remarta
lie said that the fact however strange was moi entirely
new to him A few days ago when at Albany he in
formed ny gentleman that the rich western lands about
Cayuga which formerly produced thirty bushels did MOI
now produce more than twenty per acre The system in
TINS Sthe rs tHat OIL virginia when
pie reduced to poverty which be the here
This was matter Of great importance There were two
modes of lviug-one the interest of cantaibe
other productive industry asd farmers should attend
to this they should ascertain whether their captaI was
no, infringel By system ofagricuue which injured
their land The system in England keeps the land With
out deterioration and was perfectly aanable here The
people here have the choice of emgrating or doing this
There is other alternative twas for them TO make en-
qniry and suggest remedy in great cities like this men
Of science abound and into collision the one with
the other and thus make discoveries they could no. maL
alone Scientific practical cannot of themselves
make discoveries itrequres them to work together
he Therefore thought that correspondence with the die
feren counties would enable them to ascertain the pro
duovene- oi the soil and at former periods and Sc
veral other things Of Importance to know.
Dr. GARDINER said, however alarming the great dimnu-
was still an evil not mentioned which was concomant
WIN the present system BY the deterioration of land
stimulus was given to occupy fresh and more productive
soil ana thereby compeition created which runous