The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-03-25
[ExTRACTs FROM OUR FOREIGN PAPERS. I
STATE OF IRELAND.

| tary annals opened in a very full House by
Lord JOHN RussELL who moved for committee of the
whole House take into the state of ireland
He attacked the method OF governing Ireland pursued by
Ireland" he said ia occupied and not governed by
those who now hold the reins OF power ear, hear
say and deliberately Ireland occupied and not
governed by the present administration. (ear hear
The government of this free country been and Shout
be government OF opinion the present government III
ireland Is VIGOROUSLY government OF force" (Iear
Ever since the period of the Union the Irish people had
been made to wait for the fulfment OF promises
them by Mr. Pitt and those promises not yet fulfilled
Upto recent period Roman Catholics had sys
ematicoliy excluded from all uries. She had
dyed a franchise like England
NJ may be tod said his ordship that in considering
the state Of Ireland ought look those
of political franchise and political rights that these will
not put bread into the mouths Of the hungry give
poy ment to the unemployed that these the
dies which Ireland requires in her distressed
do not concur in such notions of the matter. (lear
hear) cannot find any support for them in the history
OF this country and Of its Constitution Qiear, hear)
have been accustomed to think tat the participation
equal rights that the benefits of free constitution,
the very first and very best by which i'm.
| part prosperity TO a country" CLEAR, hear)
These views were remarkably confirmed by the OPT.
mons delivered both by Mr. Pitt and by MIR. Fox in l792
And let me not be told" his lordship continued
we are now to learn some speculative and abstract
| wisdom let us not be tcld that government find
means means to give employment to people without
| uon-(hear hear)-that they can withhold the fran
chise and yet confer prosperity it is not in their
pect to Irsand-happy is to say with re-
sect to Engandthe best they can do Tor the people OF
mat soantrymno doubt they may 40 other things and
can do for Ireland to every there in the
oyment Of his clear rights, and enable every be
sure that he will be represented according to the princ
| pies Of the constitution" (Cheers)
But said his lorshp alludng the present Ministers
franchise to the people Of Ireland" And he would ask
the House to into committee to consider and other
subjects Many judicial Offices had become vacant under
the Ministry, but giving way to ian unjust preference
and unfair suspicion" they had promoted Catholics
OConnel was not the only man who had attempted to
sowthe seeds OF discussion and dislike between the people
OF England and those of Ireland. Men high in office
had done SO likewise, and been rewarded-not with a
prosecution and the prospect Of prisonbut with the
highest judicial power in England He himself did not
disapProve prohibiting meetings dangerous from their
numbers and proclamation to that effect had been is
sued at first he believed Mr. OConne would have obey
| ed It, After their proclamation, Ministers might have
waited till some dangerous act should have been
ted but they chose for those very meetings
which they had supney suffered to proceed unreprov
cd. What he should propose, if the House went into
committee, would be- firstly to get rid Of all secarian po
Icy secondly, to give fair equal franchise corpo
rate a: well as next to abolish the system
OF civil exclusion Then as to the question of the eccle
siastical establishment. His wish was to the eccles
ascal endowments applied to the religious instruction
all classes but this would not be feasible yet; for in
the existing state of feeling the priesthood would
cept public provision perhaps the utmost that could
at present be done would be to make liberal allotment
the education of the Irish clergy The grant Their
college whether Maynooth or elsewhere Should be the
double OF its present amount The prohibition upon the
Roman Catholic bishops against taking the titles Of thc
should be aboshed and should every badge
Of degradation to the Roman Catholic clergy But per
haps the most difficult of all these subjects that Of
disorders arising from the tenure Of land. Mr. OConne
had said that the solution Of this difficulty is full of dan
ger but there seemed at all events to be necessity
should wish to increase rather than dminution
the number Of the pendiary magistrates; but he could
not venture to that he knew OF any complete remedy
Tor such evil that which connected with the
isting tenure. He related story from Sir Walter Scott
of the favorable effect produced the Hghanders by
the saying of George IT. who when told in his youth OF
the repeated exploits Of Highland officer the side
the Stuarts, made answer "as he fought against
me HThen think he will fight well my behalfn SINH
lar disposition might be among the Irish toward
the young Sovereign Of the present day. and who would
would not he trusted be the British House of Commons
that would so intcrpose.
Mr. SHEL He apologised for having followed
the Attorney General on the previous evening" principal
y from his wish to investigate the very serious charge
OF having packed" jury in case OF murder. His OBJ
ject in that instance to obtain mixed uryn which
was composed Of seven Catholics and FIVE Proestans
the Attorney General in the recent State trials had fol
lowed his example, he would have taken more merciiu
and more judicious course. Every Roman Catholic ex
cuded rotestants introduced, who, if the personal
were at least the political opponents of MIR; OConnell
and no less than eight out OF the twelve having
active course in opposition to him. Of them whose
names and sentiments he quoted having committed them
selves as the vehement partisans of surrender
| the glorious and immortal memory" Whether foully
or iatuously portion of the jury list omitted ant
Mr.. OConne was derauded OF the benefit of the provs
ions of the act OF Parliament The whom the Irish
Catholics regarded their Lberator had been convict
ed but victory obtained might be far fatal to
animus Of the Government Mr.. Blake, a Catholic, was
excluded from that meeting Of the Privy Council which
was assembled tn consider the CIontarf proclamation
which the Recorder, Protestant the Reviser Of the
jury lists, was specially invited This fact trivial in
self, was significant when viewed in relation with other
circumstances But having issued that proclamation and
through the instrnmentalty Of Mr. OConnc escaped the
erls of its late issue, why did they prosecute for
piracy instead Of for holding unlawful meetings. and
editious language Was this legitimate proceeding
The Irish Attorney General had confessed that the
against the Government shorthand writer. Mr.. Bond
Hughes was the prompting why he had pursued
Nr. O'Connel during the trials with much Leenness
But the Attorney General omitted very material portion
Of his part OF the Mr. Bond Hugh hes fallen into
mistake with respect to Mr. Barrett for which he was
exposed to all this obloquy and he anxously besought
Was this done No but MIR Barrett. the man who's,
liberty thus affected by the mistake still left
under the effect of the warrant by which he was ap
| pretended. The informations carefully correct
ed as to the christian name Of the Rev. Mr. Tier
ney, but not the least notice was taken Of the grave
blunder respecting the identity Of Mr.. Barrett and
yet the Irish Attorney General made the Glamour
against Mr.. Bond Hughes for his subsequently ac
knowledgsd, but uncorreced blunder aggravation
the case against Mr. OConpell. II the practice in
England to give list of witnesses before trial order
to enable defendants to prepare their defence But
nlicaon refused in EDgland-which the English
Attorney General admitted to be of course-was
refused in ireland the opinions Judges
of having assened to the of the trials but
he had persisted in forcing the with the jury
list Of 1874 list which contained the Of only
twenty-five Catholics and which the recorder admitted
was mperfect-much more serious imputatons would
have attached to him. The recorder free from all
moral blame but not from the charge of neglect with
spect to the omissions in making the lists The Irish
Attorney General had charged him with corrnpting Mr.
Magrah Catholic an officer In the employ Of the
Recorder for theimprobabe and absurd purpose of
| moving Roman Catholics from the lists This was I'M.
rue. The choengers traversed the array and il the
crown joined issue with them the facts would have been
promptly asccrained, and the accusation either at
rest or the quashDg correcting Of the panel would
have ensucd. But instead of demurring, and admitting
aIoUic If tbo
crown pressed the case with the decision of one Of
the Judges, Mr. Justice Perrin, against the legality of the
Jury panel lcndrick of the Jurors struck Off had
been alleged to be Protestant and conservative but
he was ascerained to he Roman Catholic and yet Lord
Stanley had charged him N1r. SheD with quibblng be.
cause he contended that Dunno another Juror though
repeater was not member of the Repeal Association
Was there no difference between being advocate Of
the repeal Of the Corn Laws and a member of the Anti
Corn Law League p (Iear hear) II was boasted that
the government had the ground of fairness preferred
| Especial to common jury, because common Jury,