Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1841-1853, 1844-12-26

,ts for putting off the payment Of the debt for five
years, amounting To upwards of sZ1OOo that did
exist at the time Of giving the notes-;l,at 1t was
bad precedent give relief members Of the Legis-
laturc.
Mr. Sapp gave an explanation Of his settlement
with the Agent Of State tie gave the notes. not be-
cause lac believed himself indebted to the Stae.-or
he did not believe himself indebted single dollar
but To Get rid of a troublesome lawsuit with the
State. part of the notes made payable IN aonds
and the Agent of State told HIM no doubt the whole
amount would be received IN bonds. but he did not
feel authorised al the time 30 draw notes IN TINS way
lie entered into a detail Of the manner IN which the
loss sustained. lie did not wish 10 be relieved
from the payment of the notes. but only asked for an
extension OF time.
Mr. Manyille member Of the committee. had not
attended the investigation; and therefore lac was una
tie to give his appreciation 10 tie report. lie there
fore dlsscnicd from the majority
Mr. Jones' OF Fountain. the cha ruan of the COM
mtcc. IN his capacity an editor. had given our
fund commissioner. Gen. Siapp. many scars any
Other man; but in this case. representative. lac
had come 10 the conclusion. from full investigation
of the facts that eniiy should be extended 10 that gen
i!cman. The representative from Brown, (hr. Man.
villc.) absent from the cy during the inyestiga
ton of the committee. and disscnis without full
knowledge of the whole state Of the case.
Mr.. Mooney d>ca.mcd any personal objections 10
Cen S;app lie considered Gen. Stapp n defauer
and could not consent the report of the committee
If lac was convinced that Gen. Stapp did not the
fall amount charged against him. he would not con-
sent exact a cent from hun.
Mr. Namdcvccr said that If Gen. Siapp owed moth
ing. why not bring in bill relieving him from the
debt altogether There appeared 10 bc intended
in siaving of the time than they were aware Of IL
might be 10 gam lime TO get rad of the debt altogether.
He referred To the clause of the constitution. which
saws that no person indebted a. public officer 10 the
State shall hold IN either branch Of the Legi
aturc, and the bad precedent of members arranging
things III such way a 10 permit them To hold their
seats
Mr. Robinson, Of Decatur said there were but two
questions now before this House. One. a. the cx-
tension of time and the other. that payment might be-
made IN State bonds. IL was right that Gen. Siapp
should make explanations: but under the settlement
with the Agent a full arrangement has been made.
He now only asks delay of payment. and the priv
cgc of paying the paper of the State. lie referred
10 gentlemen who IN favor of valuation and stay
laws oppo> ne relief IN this instance la regard Ia
paying bonds. he considered that the State should
stand as an ndis idual. and tina, should refuse
10 take ms paper IN the payment of debt lie
denied that Gen. Siapp a dciaucr, for default
ter must both collect and disburse public money.
Mr. Stophlet. a member of the committee did not
examine as closely Others but had come 10 the
conclusion that Gen Siapp. officer of the State.
had in many cases iransccndcd his powers bat had.
all his movements eye single TO the interests Of
the State. The state of the times SUCH when
his Transactions Fund Commissioner took place.
that knew what day would bring forth in ref
the stability of interpretations with which
the State had transactions lie might have cyadcd the
payment of the debt, II entirely lost him.
but like AN honest man having transcribed hI> pow
crs he was wlngtO pay the debt He believed
VI on Siapp 10 be honest man. and he would do
his conscience dictated. let hi> constituents say Of
his acts a they viii. lie denied that Milton Siapp
was dciaulicr. hc understood the term. Another
proposition IN the bill was that payment should be-
made IN State bonds. This he considered magnan-
mous act IN Gen Siapp, for having received nothing
he willing TO pay IN the paper of the State. In
der every of the subject. lac considered that every
act Of Gen Slapp exhibited the fact that he considered
hl, name an honest man dcarcr 10 him ihan dollars
and cents.
MIR logeatt came here the opponcn, Of all spc-
cial amendments. He considered tins bill giving
Milton Siapp the privilege # purchasing bonds If the
State at fifty cents 10 the dollar and paving his debt
To tie State. He would for the bill unless
this provision stricken out.
Nh Howard had thought, when settlement
made with Gen Siapp. that hc indebted to the
State in the amount for whch hc had given hls notes
hot that IT was o delay the matter for short time
Ia enable the gentleman to yet out 81 the debt alto
gcthcr. The idea that Gen Sarp owed nothing Ia
the State rather singular 10 bc advanced AT tins
period
Mr. Tinglcy considered that where an individual
owed the State. he should be- permitted 10 pay IN tie
obi. eaiioilS # the State. dollar for dollar. He
surprised nj the pursued 10y the gentleman
from Orange. and referred To- the of that gentle
man IN favor of our system Of improvement. lie
thought there was nothing unreasonable IN giving
cArns OF time, ls securities were fully able 10
pay. and that there would be- nothing unjust IN per
hitting him 10 pay m bonds. He has information
from the \ gent of State that had be pr secuted tie
suit aginsi Siaip. he could not have recovered tie
amount that was agreed upon on settlement He had
feelings FIR the securities of S1lp that. perhaps.
III ghi not cAisi. Ia reference 10 Siapp alone.
After some further remarks from Mo>sr> Gregory,
lIcrod. and Jones of Fountain.
Mr. Nandoyccr moved an amendment that all State
and county officers indebted to the State. shall have
tie privilege Of paving IN STATE bonds. &c, which
VA. not adopted.
Alr Iam.,on now moved tie prc1o question.
winch being pat. to VII Shall the bali be- cnerosssd
for "a third reading was decided IN the Affirmative,
ayes -. noes 10
ON motion, the House al ournc,l
AI1Ea>ooN srssicy
Mr. BaAcnorc reported BIZ TO locate State road.
passed 10 a second r. ading-
Alr llerod reported against tie Il edency # farn-
ine meH county.
Mr. M'AA-icr ;aosed 10 reconsider tie vote On tie
passage OF tie 5ll allowing religious or edueaiion
cieiie> 10 vond cl.cl.>: which m.oiDI ro,a4icd.
Sir MAii,tcr ui,n moved 80 amend. with insiruc-
tios that To clocks shall hc sid than those that
hand al tic time Of the passage IT the bill;
winch motion DID MT ppsail-ayos - Aoss go.
Mr. smith moved - commit ulh instructions that
oil persons shall ENJOY the same privileges c9Acinla-
ted IL tic bill. Whle. did 80 pre- ail.
The bll then passed bs safc cf-at's >. noes -
Alr Conduit reported ta % authorize "A settle
mcrt with Cornelius Ferry, which las-'d ioa >tcond
reading: By FIR Ford. bill providing fyr State rad
IN Randolph aud jay: passed a SECOND reading
The bin 70 establish an ai,lif .oTal place 81 holding