The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1844-01-25

COMMITTEE, and made part Of its proceedings and
| u was but justice that his reply should accompany
that memorial.
MIR. DAVIS said that the gentleman was before
The committee and replied TO all arguments, in per-
son tsened for their consideration and which as
part OF the report aud in justice 10 Mr. Goggin
who was absent his argument should not be printed
because other questions had arisen during his alb
ssnce.
Mr. ELMER said there were parts of the evidence
foreign from the subject before the House and they
had Just as well adopt Mr. Espeys opinion if asked
when he thought il would rain in Baltimore, and
make that evidence as some which had been present.
ed 10 the committee
Here desultory conversation took place between
Mr.. Thompson, of Mississippi and Mr. Elmer Of an
explanatory character
Mr.. NEWTON said that il had been remarked that
there were suspicious the part of the ori,y as
TO the motives OF the minority in wishing to suppress
Mr. Goggin's statement. He would state candidly
to the House and the country that the argument OF
Mr. Goggin had been prepared for home consump-
ton, that It might go the People Of the Albemarle
district the land OF Jefferson and Madison to sustain
him IN his position; but other facts had been pre-
sented to the committee which destroyed the nten-
ton he had II appeared to him that his coea
was something like the Greek, egging the House
to print the statement Of his honorable com.
petitor, which would place him in false posi-
uon before the country His oh ect simply to
place Mr.. Goegin right before the country, because
his statement had been made upon the evidence fur
nished him from The county of Madison, and he Mr..
NJ had received evidence Of contrary character,
duling Mr.. Gosgins absence, which he felt bound To
state in justification Of that gentleman who was
h. h-mndsd and honorable man.
Mr. GlLMER said he was neither Greek nor Tro-
jan, (and he presumed his colleague was, The Trojan,
II he was the Greek) He sought no iavors except
those which belonged TO him had been ntmated.
Ills coll, aguc had expressly stated that the argument
OF Mr. Geggin had been prepared expressly for Bun
connie and although i had been said that bis dis
trlct extended from Maryland to North Carolina, yet
It did not reach Bunconbc His colleague alluded
to The miss, but he knew he would not expose his
friend TO those mists--Tain, if he pleases-lo which
he had alluded hence the anxiety not to publish his
written argument.
Mr. THOMPSON, of Mississippi, demanded the
previous question: VIII oh was seconded.
The question then REQUIRED on printing, and the
yeas and nays were demand,d-and, upon a C uni
there was second.
Mr.. DROMGOOLE rose to a pon, of order and
contended that as both statements belong TO the same
subject, they could not be separated.
Mr.. BELSER called for the reading of the report
and papers.
1t was objected TO.
Mr.. SCHENCK asked if a gentleman had not the
right to ask for the reading of paper
The CHAIR II a majority Of the House ordered
it but il was competent for any member to object.
Mr.. HAMLlN asked if the vote would moi be first
taken on printing the reporti
The CHAIR said, the report had already been or
dered to be printed; and the question now upon
the printing of the argument Of Mr. Goggin
The CLERK then called the roll, and the following
IS the result yeas 1874, nays 81
SO tie argument Of Mr.. Goggn was ordered TO be
printed.
The question then required on the printing of the
argument Of Mr.. q liner.
The yeas and nays we're called for, but they were
not ordered; and the question decided in the
affirmative.
So the argument Of Mr., Gilmer was ordered to be
printed.
Mr.. SCHENCK rose to a privileged question and
moved that oil the papers connected with the report
be printed, so that the whole might 20 the country
together.
The CHAIR said they not before the House.
MIR. SCHENCk then moved to instruct the COM
mitlsc to report all the papers the subject
Mr.. DKOMGOOLE said thai the papers should
have been reported, and placed upon the Speakers
table at the time and he objected.
MIR. CAVE JOHNSON said the motion was out of
order after the committee had reported on the sub
Mr.. ELMER said il the House desired it, the com.
mitted were prepared to report the papers.
The CHAIR then said the motion was in order
Mr.. SC1ENCk said that he had modified his mo
ton so as to meet the objections of the gentleman
from Virginia MIR Dromgoole who was pre-
sumed TO be always right upon questions of order,
although he believed that there had been only two
questions submitted in order since the commence
ment OF the session, and they were a suspension OF
tne fuits anu W IL H1u DteN stated lnat
there was disposition 10 suppress a portion Of the
evidence, which was dshonorabe, and which no ho-
norable man should have made although he charged
dishonorable motives TO no gentleman.
Mr. HAMLlN said he had not sta ed that the report
Of the minority was incorrect according TO the evil
dence, but that the argument, Of MIR Goggin was DIFF
ierent from the statements In his printed memorial.
lie knew nothing Of the contents Of the minority Re-
port, the efore he could not have alluded it.
Mr.. SCHENCk continued in favor of printing
h. f.Ia a.
together, in justice to Mr.. Goggn, because addi-
tonal evidence had been produced during his alb
sence, and after he had made his argument.
NJ s.rs. ELMER and GILAiER here explained
and said that MIR. Goggin had agreed 10 submit
the whole subject, upon their respective statements
o. the committee
Mr. SCHENCk said his object TO print the
whole or none, that the people out Of doors might
understand the question, and without which they
could not He said that, IN the first place, wien he
object TO the printing of so large document he
had done 50 with an eye TO economy. Some gentle
men had sneerrd at IT but lac would remind the
gentleman from Virginia, who has said much
about economy, that the fault Of printing such
lume should not lay al his door He could no account
for the anxiety eyinced for the printing of the srgu.
ments, except it is to see ones name in print II
had been remarked that "a book is n book, although
there Is nothing IN it," which was the case al pre-
sent.
Mr. GIIMER said that the gentleman from Ohio
had said that he was anxious TO his name, which
was not the issue because he (Mr. ca had contend
ed from the beginning that all should be printed
therefore, It not whether he should write book,
but hi. friend 1t had been once wisely said ooh that
mine G, emy would write ok, which he presumed
| was the of bis friend from Ohio, Who had evnc-
ed so much scnsitiv,ne-s ON the subject TIE gen
ileman perfectly willing that his statement, should
be printed hut he objected TO the printing of tn
statement of Mr.. Goggin. SO IL appears that the
objection is to his (Mr Schenck-) appear.
| lie 1 NJ fl.t ~,
tween the age Of himself aud the gentlemso from
Ohio, whom he presumed was MOI over my" yet he
though, he ''yOung" enough TO see bis name in
PRINT although he (Mr. s was too cir To see his