The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-10-13

From this Philadelphia spirit Of the Times
General Convention Of the Protestant Epis-
cOpal Church I'm the United states.


[From tbs Philadelphia spirit Of the Times
General Convention Of the Protestant Epis-
cOpal Church I'm the United states.
lRemarks OF the Rev. DR. Higbee on the resolu.
ton OF Dr. Hawks, as a substitute to that OF Mr.
Memninger
THURSDAY, Oct. 10, 1874.
Rev. DR.: HreBRE, OF New York, said It was
fact not without Its instruction, that the loudest
complaints which we had heard on the subject be-
fore us, Game from the dIoceses which had ulreany
leglslated on the subj this may give US proht
able hint for the course we should pursue. The
gentleman from ONO (Mr. Smailwood) hae yester-
day illustrated lis danger by telling OF an ndyid-
ual who had left his church and attended Ro-
mlsh chapel al this he was surprised. He could
only say that, If, as alleged, our Romsh lenden-
cies In New York were strong, IN Ohio they were
stronger.
Rev. Mr. SMALLwooD explained that the indi-
vidual had come from New York.
DIR. HIaRgE continued When, then, the ndvld-
ual remained In New York, were able TO pre-
vent him from leaving our church. The gentlemen
(Messrs Brooke IL Smalwood) were formerly his
fellow laborers In the same diocese, and he always
required to those early days with pleasure. One
OF them (Mr Smallwood) had affirmed that there
existed an agitation, or rather difference OF opinion
which had formerly existed, and attributed them
TO the influence of the Oxford tracts. During the
period OF their early intercourse referred TO, every
thing personally had been harmonious; but was II
doctrlnally then more than now? Did they be-
lieve that on our creeds and articles we differed
now more than them Ii 80, they are mistaken
He was educated at the General Theological Sc
mlnary, and lett its walls for The retirement OF
parish on the banks OF the Susquehanna In that
seminary ard In that parish his general the ologI-
Cal opinions were formed, and such as they were
then they are now. The tracts spoken OF had pro-
duced no effect on his position, II was the same
now as then there were the same differences be-
tween us then as now. There was not indeed the
same agitation; names then were different. The
names used then were not DIS good alarm notes as the
names used now; we had not names of Puseylte or
tractaraD, or OF tendency to popery the facts Of diff
ference are the same, the naIIies alone changed
This idea, namely thar Of the independent establishment
OF Church of Christ the referred TO had attempt
ed to bring out. And the researches Of their authors
among ancient writers may have doubtless brought forth
something spurious something dangerous along with
the good but the OF Popery was first raised those
to whom a Church independent Of the State was a
Being ut loss to give the new tn ng name,
they called Popery because it held in common with
Rome, the independent constitution VI the Church oil
Christ without respect any temporal government The
had been brought across the Atlantic and with too
little consideration had been applied to certain class Of
friends and brethren WLo have been most nstrh-
mental in raising and sustaining this cry Of POpery and
fngng reproaches against large portion VI our br
threnl Surely those who accused o having ad
mit,ed tracts. Not the Pussy ites7 No. certainly
Many indeed who had been mentioned the very head
and iiont OF Pussysm had page these
tracts he should name them would create prise
AS for himself he had read pages OF them his
life. They but names to old things, and he must
say, although might appear severe, that while portion
brethren d.sITous OF following in the old
tracks Of Ravenscrot and Hobart and Bowen and Kemp
amhushes tn HAD been vaguely accused and could
find tangible tribunal or respo sbie accuser II any
has been guilty OF heresy the law Of the ChMch Is
open try him. but their accusers shrink om meeting
them face face and presenting their in form
OF law. They had begg this, but they dare not come
forward But insnuaiions were covertly made and re
ports circuated and friends aienated and the
people separated from their PASTORS The one hand the
public mind too little instructed, and on the other
there aarms and thus the accusation and the re
spsnse passing and repasng continually from one 70 te
other suspicion and dscord and distrust wore brought
in. where charity and mutual good offices should
prevail, and truth and love and peace nave been
crused between the upper and neither miiistones =
We shrink not from the tribunals OF the chuichhoin
res bities to the laws Of the churca or We are
wrong doers from behoding its naked sword oil justice
suspended but Can be that the Churc
viii wreath ioI the OF olive and Of myrtle
ly to conceal beneath It thu avenging dagger! He
trusted this wou be thrown out OF the Legislation OF the
Church He would reply brn 70 the remarks Of The
gentleman from Virginia, tDr Emp) @ho had gwen us
idea what Pusey ism IS In his hands IS not that
vague vanishing, misiy thing which his lay coeagur
(NiI Lewis) FRED IT. " ih him It 10 somrfhns mon
susterrlby monsrous and yet talks ii concilia ion
witu it and with those who adhere TO IL What. conciate
with those VINO compared by him TO the Jews OF old
who rejected and cruced Saviour to tn sc accord
ing him who sfuat the Dead Sea oil Papsry, a.
before the Iefo nation Will he attempt to concilise
those HON he compared to the illuminate OF Germany
whose crush the wretch" meaning our bless
ed Saviour Does he. or any Christian man rec ON
mend Cancellation With those who hold point
it'll the Jews who drove nails into the hands and
feet of Saviour-with the Papis,swith those who
followed Teizel in his career OF inamy. and with the
thing In the annals Of time de anded the interpos
ton Of law at stern tribunal it Is such crimes as are
and adherents OF Tracarianism And even to be more
specific, ,he gentleman from Virginia had enumerated
sixty propositions but he could not follow up then
heart sick the recital
Of them But he called on him before the whole
Church and before God, il he knew one single indi
vidnsl in the whole wide range of the Church who
held such doctrines, to make HIM known, lay his hand
upon him and brig him before the proper tribunal
Of the Church before this Convention adjourned. =
hall .l.le, A.r;J
of the Bishop Of his Diocese W in the ordination OF
Mr. Careybut 1t the improper reference to the Bishop
the dead to cut down in the prime Of youth and who
il here TO defend himself or answer for himself he
had disting this floor by the opprobrious
Of Papis and opinions had been ascribed to him,
which he held them, made his holy ordination vow
sacrilege before High Heaven He could not allude to
his case more than to reply to it in Mr. Careys
menced the study oi theology certain layman Of New
York proposed certain questions to him. which he asked
ransubstantiaton in purgatory, In the efficacy of
and ndu gences and other Romsh errors the questions
prepounded to him these subjects and his answers,
were follows
q l. Do you believe that the body and blood Of
Christ corporally present in the Euchsrs-or that
the el. merely bread and winein
subsancehe body and blood OF Christ in spirit and eff
cacy
Ans. believe that the body and blood Of Christ are
present in the Holy Eucharist only in the spiritual
nerthe manner venture not to define ~ however, be-
eve that the elements bread and wine In
substance ana the pody ana pood Of ehrt IN spirit and
efficacy.
@ IT. "Do you believe that the bread and wine under
90 any change conversion by conservation In the Flu
charst they only the symbolic representatives Of
the body and blood Of Christ"
Ans Ibelieve that the bread and wine really
and substantially present after the consecraton they
beforeand that they not changed converted
otherwise spirituality which spiritual change do not
tempt to explain further than by exyres.ing my belief
that the bread and wine remaining in their natural sub
do become the diviDey appointed means OF con
veyng the faithful and Of Offering to others lin spr
tual mapner Christ himself 18th AL the benefits Of his
presence upon the earth for the redemption Of mankind
In short my belief this subject IL expressed In our
Catechism, on foowsi
"Quest What is the,outward part sign in the Lords
Supper
"Ans Bread and wine, which the Lord hath comman.
ded 70 be received
Quest What the inward part OF the thing sgnifedi
"Ans The body add blood Of Christ which spirit.
uslly taken and received by the faithful in the Lords
Su per
Quest. What ere the benefits whereof we parta.