The Ottawa free trader. [volume] (Ottawa, Ill.) 1843-1916, 1844-04-26

tinguish any rerson. Saw Norris sard Miilard
from Phillips stable to Morse's house. Could
not tell tho, it was them from any thing lie could
see Pointed on, the place where the blood was
from observations and ranges he bad taken. Don't
think he could have been mistaken 90 feet. Nor
ris attempted to take the course from where Phil
lips was said TO have stood 10 The frs. blood: he
had an object standing there. Niiness pointed
out where he found the first blood, and they stucl;
a stake. Means by the FIST blood the blood far
thest west, where the first blood was spilled. II
the stake had been stuck rods further on, 1t
would have made difference in the angie 1t
would have brought it near to w'ferr tue body
was. The stack stood there last winter. Locked
then from Morse's house 10 where the body was.
and then went down to see if, from the blood, the
body could be traced behind the stacks so thu, it
could not he seen from the house. Don't know
Norse's track. Saw tracks there saw the track
which had the appearance Of man going along
aud the blood 0ozng out on both sides. Did no,
follow the :ack further than the blood went. Was
not the first person there Only looked to see it
man could he hid from Morse's house standing
where the first blood was. Saw three men there
when he gol there. Found several had been there
and had gone. Placed no confidence in the tracks,
there were 60 many. Thinks the stack of hay
spoken Of by IombiIng stood IN nearly an easter
Iy direction from Phillips door. Thinks a non
standing where the first blood was could he seen
from where Holiday was. Don't know that he
could have distinguished Phillips from where iol-
day stood II be stood wrete Holiday testified.
Philips wore grey clothes at that time. There
were others that wore grey clothes in the neigh.
b0Ghood. Nliness's brother lives 50 rods from
him. Is not thle to see from bis house So rs to
distinguish who Is cutting wood or shooting a
chicken IN his brothers yard, whether it Is his
brother or his son, or man that lives With him.
Has not consulted other witnesses to know what
should he done To clear Phillips. Has talked with
different neighhors about 1t: some are called down
here as witnesses. las spoken to Willard about
1t; but not as TO what their testimony should be-
Thinks he never stated 10 John ThuInton "lhey
have kicked over all the plars laid to clear Phil
lips" Should think he would rccollect If he did
say SO. Has had conversation with Thornton,
bat thinks he never stated that he was Phillips
bail. Don't recoilect any particulars Of his con.
versa,ion with Thornton.
D.td.--Never did lay any plans to clear Phil
lips. Assisted in getting him balled out of jail
assisted III getting Others 10 60 his bail. lie was
m jail about three months. lie had wife aud
four hcl less children: be has five children now.
Assisted IN taking care Of his crops when he was
IN jail. The situation of his family was the only
witness had in rendering the assist
ance hJlld. Knows the gentleman here next to
Mr. Shnpe his name is Aonzo ID. Carter. lio
is not hardly an attorney and counsellor vi law
his business Is mcddiing with other pCn'le bu-
siness. Swears tn that and stands ready to prove
it. A part Of Phillips bail wished to surrender
him. Objected TO it.
Qrsi'm hy pyosecufo~.--W there any thing
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