The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-01-11
BY THE SOUTHERN MAIL.
Warrington.
Correspondence of the Hersld)
WARRINGTON, Jan. 9. 1874.

Correspondence of the Herald)
WASHINGTON, Jan. 8, 1874.
JAMES GORDON BENNETT, Eso.;-
DEAR SIR
Several combinations were made to-day by the
Senate, in Executive session. OF no special interest
to the public Mr.. Smthson, Tor ol.Smithson, )So-
citor in the Land Office, was rejected. The office
requires il is said, lawyer to discharge the duties,
which pertain to the investigation Of land ltes &c
MIR. $. is said to have been no lawyer, and there
fore not qualified for the Office. What may be said
In his favor have not heard
In executive session, although nothing can be
absolutely affirmed, its proceedings are secret
yet hare no doubt Mr.. Aliens resolution, calling
upon the President for copies of Instructions &c
to Mr. Everett, came up, was not defnltively acted
upon but will become the subject of future debate
The vote Yesterday was no test, many Senators
thought the solution should properly come up in
executive session, when senators could more freely
express their opinions. The vote in secret session
will be test
In looking over my notes of Yesterdays debate
upon this resolution, find two or three important
| points to be noticed-the more especially that the
west takes such deep and vital interest In every
thing pertaining to the subject
Mr.. BERRIEN opposed calling tor the instructions
on the ground that the publication would be show
| ing the British Minister Packenham) our hand
of which he would have the beneht-whlle we
| should not see his
Mr. BENTON proved from the journal that the
President often asked for advice in writing-as
well as came IN proWia persona. And he appre-
| hended that in the making OF treaties 1t would be
much better if the Senate were oftener consulted
before treaties were made.
Mr.. ALLEN, in the course OF his remarks, said he
thought it very probable the Senators farhest from
him (whgs) did not want the President placed In
position, where, IN their opinion, veto La power
they wish to RESTRICT would be necessary.
Mr.. WOODBURY. was not over sensitive upon this
subject, of asking for these nstructions-he was in
favor of doing it. But in the cases referred to,
where the Senate gave advice to Gen. Washing
ton, it was important to observe that he always
first asked for It, 1t was never obtruded upon him
unasked.
Mr. ARCHER said this was not case for advice at ALL
there were negotiations pending and ADMINISTRATIONS
called for merely what had reference to qo the
place where the negotiations should be carried on whe.
Their in England in this country, and Mr. Berrien
had said he was totally opposed to showing our hand
He sad Mr. Allen had opened vital and vastly more i'm
He had asserted the right of the Senate to raty trea
ties (Which not denied) but the Senates right to OBJ
of negotiation in order to control his actor Was the
| like Of such doctrine heard upon that floor
beforel Mr. Allen admits the Presidents right to 40
right also to institute the treaty This doctrine is
strous 1t would give the Senator'S from Ohio Allen)
and Missouri Benton) the right call upon the President
during the progress of for the protocols
they daily pass between the parties These doctrines
perfectly congenia the political principles which these
gentlemen hold They would democrase the whole GO
vernment Shall entertain here the first steps of
patron upon Executive prerogatves'
right of the Senate given by the Constitution by and
with the adpce and consent of the Senate' They adv
sed Gen. w. Where did the Senate get this right? Did
the presence of Gen. W. give to them? Or did his writ
request for advice give them this right? Nothe Con
tution gives it to the Senate And he was for going
back primitive doctrines and primitive practces when
the Constitution young and fresh and its powers and
grants fully understood and appreciated by the hoary
headed men who made it, in Convention at which Gen
Washington himself presided, he will preside in
the grateful hearts Of his counrymen. Let return
say We have lost much grouId. Time and prejudice
have wrought many Entertainments upon the ad
mnistration of the government
Mr. KING thought these rights to give advice could not
be properly exercised until it called for He to
say that the Bills the table relative to the occupation
the Oregon could not by any possibility, be affected
to exercise the rights given usby the treaty and no
He hoped the President if asked, would refuse to
give these instructions
Mr. BENTON said-We were charged with disposition
to democratize." Suppose charge back that the
other side of the House is disposed to arisocracize
But this not the place for elimination recrminaton
He asked Senator (Archer if individual consultation
had been substituted for consultation With the Senate
Have not back stairs consultations been substituted fol-
honorable and frank advice in open Senate! He paused
for reply.
Mr. ARCHER replied that he would not say aye nay
swered No"
Mr. BENTON said he undertook to say that individual
Senators sent for by the President to advise with
and that in point of fact hereaty Ashburton) rat
fed before it ever come before the Senate Now wha
say you to demonstrating. hurl back your practices
made these charges in session before and
make them openly Back stairs consultations had led
the irregular proceedings As to democrazing
believe the word comes from Greek words demos
kraio--the people govern. leave it to the gentleman
! (Archer), both rusty. intend to democratIzt
this government far as can by carrying back to the
practices Of early times
Here followed little sparrng upon carrying tho
Government back to gold and silver currency. The ques
non shortly taken and lost have before stated.
The ground covered with which is still falling
D. d. Howard, Alderman Benson and others are here.
8. B.