The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1844-01-21

the Wabash and the Mississippi Sir we derive the pow
The consent of the States, from compac these
can't enlarge the powers Federal Government The
question much Of power as Of the fitness
and propr ETY. Of the means proposed be employed in
regulating the great interests Of the country Sir have
the gentleman from Ohio weer take the brand Of false.
FOOD on his forehead and wear it there for everQaugh-
WEILrn-sir intend to say something on this subject
tomorrow. since j: has assumed the curious shape has
ior the last two days And in doing SO. shall follow out
hat good adage OF scripture. Answer fool according
(Roars of laughter)
motion made and carried that all debate shall cease
this subject at o'cio'h Saturday ner when the
House shall proceed to vote omit.
The House then adjourned.
WASHINGTON CITY, FRIDAY Nrcur,l
JAN 10, 1874
Post Office Committee The 25th Ruie-Txe Western
Waters for the last day but one-A Melo-dramotH
Scene Almost Tragedy
On motion of Mr.. VANCE the rules were suspend
ID to allow Of the presentation of reports from
Several reports were then presented from various
committees.
Mr.. ADAMS asked the Chairman of the Post or
ice Committee when that committee would be
eady to report
Mr.. HorKINs said that it was impossible to say
The subject was very Important Cne-it required
| great deal of delberation and the examination
)f numerous documents and statistics. He hoped
20 report In few weeks.
Mr.. OWEN reported bill allowing the transfer
Of the stock OF the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal in
order to ensure It's speedy completion, and recon-
nending its passage.
Mr.. WINTHROP made a report from the select
Committee on Copyrights, and returned several pa
,ers to the desk.
THE TwENrY-F1nsr RULE AGAIN.
The orders OF the day then came up, being the
notion TO recommit Mr.. Adams report ON the
Rules.
Mr.. HUDSON, who had the floor, spoke for ten
nluutes, that being the balance Of his hour left
ver from Yesterday. He said that on examination
he found that the Legislature OF Maryland used pre-
lsely the same language as the Legislature of
Virginia did, in the deed of cesslon, giving the Dis
riot OF Columbia to the United States. And the
lnguage used in that act is just general as that
# the Constitution itself, and as far as slavery is
10 limitation whatever. And it leaves the subject
that no other laws than those passed by Congress
lone shall have effect in the district. If Congress
oes not possess sovereign power over the District,
We are asked, if the trainers of The Constitution
yer contemplated such as are Witnessed
aily on this floor. answer, eyes, sir;' and dur
ng the first session OF the first Congress the subject
fsavery was fully discussed by southern gentle
men themselves, as freely as it is by us now
IND In the act relating to the duty on imports, it
vas moved by member from Virginia to tax all
.laves that were imported when member from
Georgia said that this came with very bad grace
rom Virginia, who had got ker supply IF slaves, to
ak those States that were not supplied. And in
nat debate Mr Madison contended that Congress
lad the full right to leslslate the subject of
lavery In the Territories and Districts and added
hat 1t was curse, an evll--that weak ened a ma
lon; and he used strong arguments TO support his
oslon. SIR, 1t has been SAID that the north has
got up false issue this subiect-and let me tell
Gentlemen Of the south that then issue on the right
petition is equally false; and Just so sure az they
ress this subect--(Rap went the hammer.)
SPEAKER-Ihe Eentleman'S hour has expired
,Laughter)
SAUNDERS of North CaIoina-Mr. Speaker if gentle.
contend that they have the right petition whene,
md whatever they please there necessity for the
Gentleman from New York to tave up to Magma Charta
oshow the existence Of that right But sir 90 step Far.
her and they have right to have decisive answer
this subject But that be got by hearing the con.
ents stated and decsvey refusing entertain the same
Gentlemen say atrdge the right Of petition any
more than we can abridge te freedom of debate. Now
ir, is not the one.hour rule literal abridgment Of the
reedom of debate Yet it is employed to stop abuse
prosecuted for libel This is stop abuses Of the press
the 2st Rule to stop abuses OF petitioning But
onend all these petitioners heard. The speaker
iesrs brief statement OF the petition and says
ave heard your prayer, and decide that your petit
he has heard what the prayer of the petition is
the case OF the pension Of revoutionry soldier you
eer his petition because you don't know its
But if he states briefly that he has only served three
months you reject his petition because the fact is stated
nd the law refuses to entertain his petition So Of the
etition Of soldiers widow. who married him after he
eft the service you refuse her prayer because know
hetact and the law says you shall grant her relief
r contend that you have right to abolish slavery in
power to spend money for such purpose and the
gentlemen all admit the right Of the masters to property
whenever they arc liberated And none but mansc
would deny this right This right recognized by the
avs Of Virginia and Mary land when they made this
on declaring that the master had right property in
lis slaves for ever (He here read from the Constitution
show that Congress had power to expent money
,ay the for these slaves) Sir shall use no
hreats in this House because believe that they have 10
fleet will net that the abolition OF slavery in the
District Of Columbia win amount to q dssou, ion OF the
| ia no mar inf
he Southern States. unless he Is infde TO his prnc
les ana to ms state hut will say to his people in the
ass law to abolish slavery in this District why do gen
emen come here and clamor for the right which say
nat you already possess Sir Iconser the confidence
hat exists between representative and his constituents
he brightest gem in the dadem Of the representative and
would be the last man TO sully its lustIe But say to
Gentlemen you are not prepared immediately TO abolish
avery in the District Of Columbia why bring these ne.
ons here pray ing for that obec7 you are prepared
do this, then II is idle to bring them here at ALL
| md ii you mean to abolish slavery here in Gods
'ame do it at once. Come ont like men, that
emay know what we have to depend upon and that
nay take up our ground at The gentleman from
Massachusetts, (Adams) says that he expects TO take His
tand high in Heaven hereafter the ground Of adv
ing this socaed right OF petition. Sir he for the ,os
pr But the gentleman from New York (Beorisley J on
hno'her hand Is courting the popul and from the
frad sir that that popsi the voice of the
It's; and sir be or any portion Of the northern demo.
allies for Gods sake let them come ont like men and
ay So Let us know II at once. But tell you that
Don as yon join with these fanatics, that the
ocracy Of he south will cut loose from the concern and
shall ask the democracy of the south the
ehole of en from ranks and let the devil take the
indmost Sir. hitherto have been sustained in this
ue by the democrats Of the north Not a single whig
orth Of Mason's and Dxons line voted with us save
and he unfortunately guilIotned the other dsy
the other end Of the capitol (Profft) And II the
iorthern democrats now choose to abandon TO cnrry
tvor wi the miserable aboonsts let them say so at
nee land well take mp position For us our mind ia
aade up and evil not yield one inch Of ground on this
| question Of reception
Here Gen. SAUNDERS cut short by the expiration of
he morning hour, at ten minutes before two
Several executive communcat atoms were then
Mr.. DUNCAN then introduced a bill which was read
vice providing for uniform plan for eleciing members
| II Congress.
eoon OF the Presidents message relative TO the improve
nent OF