Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1844-01-09


OF the member calling Mr.. L. argued, that It a.
ways rested with the House ITSELF TO decide whether
they were satisfied tn the discussion of any question,
AID whether time enough had been above to have he
subject sufficiently discussed. II they are not so
satisfied, they refuse 10 sustain the previous qres
ton IL II be allowable 10 argue the previous quett
would lead to endless debate, entirely irrelevant;
lie hoped The House would sussn the decision of The
Char.
Mr. YERBy thought the decision Of las! Winter on
Ibis point, decidedly wroog-a member shouli have
he rig Int TO show why the previous question should
not be sustained, and it would be in the discretion Of
the Char TO confne the debate on the previous qnes
ton 10 t' proper limits.
Mr. Goopsns slated, that thu decision Of the Chair
was in accordance with order and proprety. Some
years since, members had attempted to read long
speech OF Judge CASTOR for three days; and the
gentleman from northampton had discussed the pre-
vnus question long enough to send an express 10 Wash
inaton and back again
The SPEAKER gave The history of the previous ques-
tion and explained the fr his decision dslbe
ratey formed. The object of the decision was pre-
vent irrelevant debate and expedite business It
precisely analogous question with mot on ~ ad onrn
which could not be debated except by appeal to
the courtesy of the member caag the previous ques
ton. Debate cannot be stifed by any member, be
cause il will still with the majority o. the House, to
allow or s refuse discussion. This question had been
fully examined md deliberately decided by large
joty of the last House. and had ever since been acqu
esced in.
MIR. SoUTHALL re examined the question, and fell
satisfied that the Speaker, upon n more deliberate in
vestgation, would be induced TO change his views
He thought the name of Jefferson entitled 10 some
weight and he had laid down The proposition, that the
previous question should be confined 10 as narrow Ii
mts as possble-and that "the debate must then be
confined TO the previous question plainly laying
down the right To dGate the previous question MIR.
s. cited the decision of Mr. Speaker Banks, alter an
experience of 90 years The decision Of l,st Winter
was OF war with 20 years previous experience lie
would not ssk the courtesy of the House for permits
sion 10 discuss the prop!eiy of allowing subject t.
be debated, when he conscious Of having the right
10 do the thing.
British Parliament, established as they in 1871,
quoted in Jehrsons Manuel, did no, apply to our
ton. Since that tine, cases had sprung up
Moreover, The House Of Delegates had, under The State
Constitution, established rules it lad the
full power do, and not bound by the peceGents
Of the British Parliament.
Here Mosaic received from the Sana'e sta
ting that they bed passed the House htli entitled Gan
to shorten the sessions and to cuta the expenses
of the Legislative department Of The Government -
with amendment changing the title 10 "An act TO
reduce tie pay of Members of The General Assembly
after a certain period Of lis session.
Mr.. EpauSDs continued the discussion, and main
tlned that the House should have The right 10 make lis
own RULES.
Mr. DAsrrL of Richmond City, cited the legislation
Of last Winter, when this matter decided without
proper delberation the voice of being crushed
By the tyrannical instrument of party; The Previous
Question having been called The question whether
the Previous Question should be sustained the main
question.
Mr. BYRD of F. defended the majority of the House
las, winter from the charge Of tyranny in sitting de
bate. The effect Of stopping the discussion was pro-
dnced by the action Of the minority, who had shewn
themselves fully prepared 10 vote the question:
Mr.. B went u defend the decision Of tie Chair
tyll yond
effects in stopping endless deaa, would amount to no.
Thing but empty air He warned the minority, who
were responsible for the consumption OF the public
time to act to cut IF all unnecessary debate
Mr.. CowAs warned the majority of the Democrats
in the House to forget their solemn duties their
people to despatch The public business, and rot 10
courage the attempt made to destroy the previous cues
ton, useful in stopping unnecessary debate.
Mr.. GALLAuER warned the people nga'ns, the course
Of members here, who wished 10 s,ie the sacred right
Of discussion; this very course tending to The length
ening OF the session.
The decision Of the Chair was sustained by The fol-
lowing vote:
.7ws-Messrs. Aiworth, Layne. Powell, Van b.
rem, Tompkns, Thompson OF b +, Edmis,on Stln,on,
Meredith, Bck, Bocock, Jones Of Buckingham Shell
ion, Washington, Marshall Of Charlotte, HANCOCK,
Banks of Floyd, Muse, Talaferro, Byrd of Frederick,
Wood Leake, Carroll. Jones of Greensville, Ed
munda Stovnli, Blue, Ward, Armstrong of Harrison,
Halves, Bales, Farley, Jackson, Street, Banks of NJ,
Wade, Tn,rm, Yonng, Roe of N. Davis. Baldwin,
Anderson. Daniel of P G., Brawner, S,urm. Eastman,
Barnes, MarIz, Coo,es, Cowun, Kane Stckley, Deni
son, Tate, Hedgman, HARRISON, Br!well, Goodson,
Neal and McComss-6o
Noes NIessrs. Brown of A., Sou;ha liurvie, Bell,
Fulton, Campbell Snodgrass, Pendleon of Berkeley,
Fox, Brown Of c, Lacy, Broodus, Hobson, Thomp
son of Dlnwidd,e. Brown of E. &. 81 w, Garnett,
Grigsbv, Keith, Tyree, Payne, Robins, Creigh, Win
ston, Miles, Raymond McTae, Pace. Bowden, Ga
laher, Turner, Lewis Lumpkn, Wallace, Mlyo,
Grubb Carter, Tebbs Parriott, Nlcolson, Armstrong
of Mason and Jackson, 0 Ferrall Cabell, Taylor,
VERIFY, Oliver, Edgnp'on, Critz, Boiling, W,cher,
Lanier Cav, Cooke Dew. Daniel of Richmond City,
Moore White Minor, Warren, Walker, Stephenson
and Rice Of W.-Gl.
The main question was ordered, and the Resolution
Of Mr. Garnet postponed ill Monday, the 18th
instant by the following vote, Mr.. Garnelt having
called lhe ayes and noes:
.7yes-Massrs Hoaman, (Speaker,) Laynn, Harvie,
Aworih, Powell, Van Buren,, Thompson of Boietourt,
Edn.iston Stanton Meredith Blick. Bocock, Jones OF
Buckingham, Shelton Washington, Marshall IT Char
lote, Hancock, Thompson of Dinwiddp, Banks OF
Floyd, Muse, Talaferro, Byrd Of Frederick, Wood,
Leake Carroll, Jones Of Greenesvlle, Edmunds, Sto
vail. B,ue, Ward Armstrong, Halves, Bales, Farley,
Jackson, Street. Banks of M'dson, Morgan, NIcolson
Rowlby, Hamilton, Wad,, Tatem, Young, Rice of
Northumberland, Davis, McPherson Bird of Pendleton,
Cav. Anderson Daniel Of Prince George, Brawner,
S,urm. Eastman, Barnes Martz, Cootes, Cowan Kane,
Stickley, Denson, Tut, IIedgman, Warren Walker,
Hurrsson BurweII, Goods,n, Neal, McComas-7o.
Noes-Msssrs Brown of Albemarle, Southnll, Bell,
Fulton Tompkins, Campbell, Snodgrass, Pendeton of
Berkeley, Fox, Brown of Campbell, Lacy, Bloadns'
Hobson, Brown of Elizabeth City and Warwick, Gar
nett Grgsby, Keith Tyree, Payne, Pendleton of Giles
and Mercer, Robins, Creigh, Winston, Miles, Hay
tnond, McRae, Pace, Bowden Gallaher, Turner, Lew
is, Lumpkin, Wallace, Mayo, Grubb, Carter, Tebbs,
Parriot, Armstrong of Mason and Jackson. Northing
ton. Huicheson, OFerrall, Cabell. Taylor VERIFY, Oh
yer, Edgington, Crilz Boiling Wtcher, lanier, aid
win, Cooke, Dey, Daniel of Richmond City NJ orc,
White, Minor, Stephenson, Rice Of Wes;moreland-60
Mr. EpMrxDs called up the Tax Bill.
MIR. LasIrR Withdrew his amendment, then pend
ing-[See Saturdays proceedings
Mr.. BYRp, of Frederick mnved to amend the bill, so
as to provide the lesying OF tax on interest upon
money loaned, which interest shall have been received
during the year mex, preced ding tie time fixed by law
for listing property by the Commissioners of the Reeve
ne. &c only aiter dedrctng ,ererom the interest at
,uaIy paid by any individual or partnership to Others
during the same period
Mr.. EnMuyps called the ayes and noes.
Mr.. TALrArERao opposed the amendment ns 1t
would render this portion of the bill entirely lnoperu.
tive, on account of the difficulty and inconvenience OF
ascertaning the interest account of each individual