The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1844-01-24

10 properly L ne CONSTITUTION says mat tVnHIess
sba not take private property for public without
Just mpensaton but the abolition of slavery is
not using II Tor public use, defined by the Constu
lion, therefore II Is unconstitutional f,r Congress TO
legslate on the subject. Slavery has existed some
torn or other since the foundation of lie world and
VIII continue To exist because mind will lr,do inale
over matter Point out an individual or allon All .
vanced in civilization, that does control labor, In
sone way other If il is controlled directly II
Is indirectly, and The principle Is the same. lie went
into an historical illustration of slavery it exists IN
this country and proved that it was Introduced here
during the Colonial Government, by an ediet of
George ILL., British King-yet that hypocrncai
Government affects much horror at slavery as 1t
exists in this country While their tailoring population
are abjecI slaves.
lie said that the people were mi-led on this
subject, and he did not believe that an ho-
noraDe man could entertain such an idea un-
der tandingIy, and he did not believe there
this floor. Here MIR. GiddingS
was seen grinning at MIR. Payne. Dos The gentle
from Ohio entertain such notion, or is there
AN ayowed Abolitonist on this floor
MIR. GIDDINGS: am an Abolitionst.
Mr.. PAYNE Then, sir, that accounts for your
dishonorable motives.
The SPEAKER said it was out Of order to make
such allusion'.
Mr.. PAYNE; Sir, he was grinning at me, and
conceived had right to ask The question
Mr.. PAYNE continued He said he had read
III NcI. IHauButuI iuuIcso thdt HC
tended to librrae the District of Columbia from
state OF slavery and if ongress has the Consitu-
ional right to abolish slavery, they were the most
AFFECT slaves on the face of the earth. Here his
hour expired
Mr.. WHITE, OF Indiana, took the floor, and spoke
a few moments, when the morning hour expired.
Mr.. ClINGMAN moved a suspension Of the
rules to allow MIR. White TO proceed; which was
disagreed TO.
Mr.. OWEN then moved that the House resolve
itself into Committee Of the Whole, and take up
the Oregon question, but withdrew il TO allow
The SPEAKER TO present several Executive
communications which were appropriately dis
posed of.
The SPEAKER presented TO the House letter
inviting the members to the exhibition of the deaf and
dumb and blind to take place this evening at quar-
ter past seven O'clock in the Hall Of the House OF Re
preventative s. which was laid upon the table.
Mr.. CHAPMAN offered resolution calling for
information in relation to the Tariff, which was
agreed TO-.
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON asked and obtained leave
to withdraw from the files of the House certain pa
PERI and moved that they be referred to the Commit
zee Indian A fairs
Mr.. G. j. lNGERSOLL presented bill authoriz-
ing the payment of certain awards under ucltes, and
withheld for deb due to the Government, to the
claiman VIII Oh was read twice, REFER to the Com
miitee of the Whole House, and made the order OF
the day for tomorrow, and printed
Mr. VANCE from the ComHlitee Of Claims re-
ported bill for the Ieliefo Samuel B. Fulcer which
was referred TO Committee of The Whole House,
and made tie order of the day Tor Tomorrow, and
printed.
Also bills for the relief of Samuel b Tuck and
u. oige Nj. Jones which were referred to Commit
tee of the Whole House, and made the order Of the
day for Tomorrow, and printed
Also bill iofthe payment Of the pas sage Of Gene.
raj Lafayette from France in the year 1924; and ano-
theI, the Contents OF VIII ch were not understood
Mr. VANCE asked to be discharged from the con-
sideraton of memorial, and that it be referred to
the Committee on Naval Affairs also, to be dis
charged from another memorial, and that it be refer
red TO the Committee on Naval Affairs ALSO to be
discharged from another, and that it be referred to
The Committee on Private Land Claims all Of which
were agreed to.
Mr.. RATHBUN reported bill to amend an ac
entitled An act granting half pay to the widow:
and orphans OF soldiers of the Revolution" which
as referred TO Committee Of the Whole House
and made the order Of the day for to morrow, an,
printed
Mr.. OWEN then moved that the House resolve it
self into Committee Of the Whole House on thu
state of the Union, which was agreed to.
TIE House then resolved itself into a Commte,
of the Whole and took up the joint resolution in re
laton to the
POSSESSION OF OREGON
The CLERK then read the resolution as reported
from the Committee and the amendment offered b,
Mr. Owen; when
Mr.. r. y. OWEN took the floor and finished h,
argument this subject, referring TO various autho
rites. be pointed out in a clear and cogent manner
the right of the United States to the Territory Of Ore
gon, and moved 10 strike our the word inexpedient'
and insert " eXpedicnt."
Mr.. THOMASSON said there was moi a SENT.
meni which had been uttered by the gentleman from
Indiana, TO the right Of the United States TO Ia,
Territory of Oregon, but to which he subscribed
However, he was not disposed 10 act in The matter
pr, sent, because he saw from the newspapers thai
the British Government had sent a Special Envoy
whose arrival was expected every day, TO negotiat,
on this subject 1t struck him, however that il was
mpoltic TO discuss this subject here under existing
circumstances, and he was fully convinced that the
views taken by MIR Calhoun were incontroyertrble
lie stated that emigration 10 Oregon had beer
stopped by the planting Of the various Indian tribe,
on The Western borders of the country, but the is
souri, was left open, and they had continued TO emf
CRATE ihlther, travelling some 900 miles and i'm ter
years, II left alone, they would take possession OF
that Territory IN despite of al laws Gentlemen
seem to suppose IT very easy Thing 10 get an army
into the field and move II across the Rocky Noun.
ans, but he would inform them that the revenue OF
the Government for the next ten years would not be
sufficient TO plant an army in The Territory Of Ore.
gon The gentleman from Indiana had said II was a
land Of PROMISE but lac had derived his information
from various trap ers, who had informed him the
very reverse. 1t represented TO him as hily and
Mr.. Calhoun had stated that TO carry an army
there, they wouldrhaye 10 travel ten thousand miles
and that the BRITISH Government could in eisht we,
and Do O.O men, which was an incOnirpyertibe fict
tie alluded 10 tie Brush Mad Steamers which were
to ply along the West India Islands and III, coast
OF South An,rlca, stopping at various places Tor fuel
under the plea OF carrying the British mail while
they were war ste1 ers IN disguise, which could be
maze FL for service in lweniy-four hours having an
eye directly totle Teni DRY OF Or'gon bot, as soon
as Lord A,hbuuon arrived, and concluded the treaty
no more was heard about these mail steamers Hc
had thrown out these rmarks for the purpose of call
ing out other gentlemen upon this important subject
bee use he would rather be a ls.euer than debaer
He was opposed TO war in any and every shape-hq
was man OF peace; but he hoped when his cosntrv
demanded his services he would I've ready 10 obey the
call. However, he thought at this time it was mex
Pedient Tor Congress TO act, and he should oppose
amendment of tho gentleman from Indiana
Mr.. WENTWORTH next took the floor and re.
piled to the remarks of Mr. Thomson He was