The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1844-02-22


The amendment further debated by MessIs
HARDIN, BRENGLE, HALE, BlDLACK, AID
MCKAY.
Mr.. DlDLAcK said he always took great
pleasure IN listening 10 the remarks Of the Chair
Of the Committee Of Ways and Means.
Mr. Mcksy,) and also To his friend from Tennessee
(Mr. c. JobasoD,) but they do not agree aud he did
not know what 10 do. tCres of move thst the com.
mtee rise and report the bill to the House aud that
will remedy the difficulty He said he hoped the
gentleman from Tennessee would withdraw ms
amendment and offer II another liae when the NAVY
Pension bill shall be reported
MIR HALE said he hoped the amendment would
mol DC wihdrawn and he also hoped il would moi be
rejected by the committee.
MIR BELsER said whenever these bills came up
he would vote against them, aud he believed that The
gentleman from Tennessee (hr. Cave Jobnson\ NV
his watchiulness Of the public Treasury saved mors
OF the peoples money than any ten members ON
this floor, and he glad to see him so zealons
in the peoples service. lie hoped the amend
meDt would be agreed to by the COMMIT,
tee ; and that the true policy Of the Govern
ment was to be just before ii generous If this sys
tenn is just why not extend il to the officers of he
Army as well as those of the Navy The nav of The
ofhcers OF the Navy was better than the nav of
the Judges OF the Supreme Court, and he was oppos
ed to il from principle.
MIR. MURPHY said he was as much opposed 70
wrong systems Of legislation the gentleman from
Alabama but he was az watchfuI over the interest,"
and he had no doubt they paid as mur h into the pub
Tic Treasury as those OF any other genllemans con-
stiuents; but this plain business proposiiion
aud could be settled in very few moments lie
then gave detailed account Of the Navy Pension
fund
The question then required upon the amendment
Mr.. WELLER called for tellers; which were or.
dered.
Messrs BURKE and CAVE JOHNSON were an.
pointed lellers, who reported 81 in the affirmative
ana 90 m the negative; no quorum voting
Mr.. WELLER then moved that the Committee
rise.
Upon this motion division was called for. and
upon count, there was 70 in the affirmative and al
in the negative.
So the Committee rose, and Mr. CAMPBELL re-
ported to the House that the Committee of the
Whole on the state of the Union had had the Union
generally under consideration, and particularly
House bill No. GO, making appropriations for The
payment OF Revolutionary and other pensioners of
Inc United States, for the fiscal year ending on the
50th OF June, one thousand eight hundred and forty
five, and had come to conclusion thereon.
Mr.. BARNARD moved that the House adiurn
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON demanded the yeas and
nays which were ordered
The CLERK called the roll, and the following ia
the resut-yeas 65, nays II.
So the House refused TO adjourn
Mr.. DROMGOOLE again moved that the
House resolve itself into Committee of the
Whole on the state Of the Union, and take up the
Pension bill, which agreed TO.
Mr.. CAMPBELL was called to the Chair
The question then REQUIRED upon the amendment
OF Mr. Cave Johnson, and il was decided in the neg
alive.
So the amendment was lost
MIR, DlCkEY moved to strike out the proyiso in
the oiil because those individuals who this proviso
would affect, was much entitled to pension as
others.
Mr.. MCKAY said it was necessary that there
should DC some restriction to prevent perjury, and
hoted the Proyiso would not be stricken out.
Mr. DlCkEl reJoined, and said he did not care
how IT was decided, because he would offer il n the
House on the second reading Of the bill
The question required upon striking out the pro-
siso aud it was decided in the negative.
Mr. COLLAMER offered an amendment to the
Pro'iso, SO as to make it read that no pen
sion hereafter applied for shall commence be-
lore the day on which the application Of the
person claiming il shall have been filed with the Com
missioner"
Mr. DANA offered substitute for the anne ndment
Of MIR. Collamer because the amendment of that gen.
ueman would deprive those who entitled 10
pensions from procuring them.
Mr. COLLAMER said the object be had in view
Was to curtail the nducement of persons committing
PERJURY to procure PENSIONS and not for the purpose
Of affecting the rights of widows
The question then REQUIRED upon the amendment
Of Mr.. Collamer and it was decided in the mega
live.
Mr.. DROMGOOLE rose 10 a question Of order
lie SAID that The amendment Of Mr.. Dana Vas out Of
order.
The CHAIR decided il was out of order
The question tbenyrecurred upon the committee.
rising aud reporting the bill to the House. which was
decided in the affirmative
The committee rose, and Mr. Campbell reported
he bill TO the House with amendments
NJ. HAMLlN moved the previous question, and
here wa MT second.
Mr.. LEWIS moved that the House djourn.
And the House adjourned.
=, Mr.. TlBBATTS presented the petition Of Capt.
" IMAM S,ubblebcld, Of Mason county, Kentucky,
'raying that pension may he granted 10 him on ac-
cunt of services Ia the Indian wars, from 1871 to
I9i, which was referred to the Committee on Revo.
utionay Pensions.