The Ottawa free trader. [volume] (Ottawa, Ill.) 1843-1916, 1844-04-19
NO. A.


or Is inches high Should think it stood on u
snow bank II feet high. There was no obstacle
to my seeing the dog from the box bat fences. IL
rather down hill towards Phillips. Should hnl,
could not see Phillips stable from Morses house
or box. Don't recollect ever seeing il from there.
Thinks il would be behind Tie stacks, Can SEQ
the top Of Phillips house from Morse's house.
Probably could see the stable from Morse's house
Don't recoIect he ever saw 1t. Should think it
might be 20 or 25 rods from Phillips house 10 The
eastern side of his ne--is not certain--don', know
only ss guess al il. Morse's house thinks is Is
or 20 rods from same line, to guess at it, Should
think it was from 10 to 60 rods from Morse's
house to Phillips. Don't know where the east
line OF Murses land is. The fence. has heard
said, is not on the line Is so or 60 rods from
Morse's house to this fence. There was part Of
fence between Morse's and Phillips land-was
building at that time. Morse's fence is nearer tho
west line than the east line. Knows place
where he supposed his west line was. Should
think it was 80 or 40 rods FROM Phillips house.
Morses house is nearer to his west line than Phil
lips is to his west line. Morse's house is 10 or IS
rods north of Phillips. Should think to guess at
it, Phillips house Us Little farther north than his
stable. Should think little farther north than
the stacks. Thinks the stacks little south of
east from the house. Should think the stable was
from 6 TO 10 rods south of the house. When wit.
ness saw Phillips come up TO tho fence he was
some two or thee rods south Of an east line from
the house--should think he was from to 10 rods
from the house. should think he was 2 or 3 rods
north of the stable. There was fence between
him and the s,uble--was The same fence that was
between him and Morse. Was a little west of
north from the stable. The fence runs north ard
south. To get to the stable would lie obliged to
get over the fence. Found Morse north aud east
from the s,able--more norih than eas-he was
some Z or 8 rods from the stable. as there
when they vent where the blood was. The blood
was IN a direction towards the stable fIon,
Ga little east Of i,) where Morse lay. The frs,
blood was about y or rods northeast Of he sta.
BILE. The place where they first found The blood
was some 20 or 22 steps from where Ptlips
stood when he shot. Witness THINKS he could
see a quarter Of mile to distinguish one person
from another, in all ordinary time. Saw Phillips
raise his gun as he came up. Saw the gun
should not have known it was gun il he had NOT
heard it. lie went down in very little while az
ter he heard the gun. stepped probably mi
mute after he got oil the box. AS witness walked
up Morse house was between him and where
Morse lay. lie went down in very few minutes.
There was nothing 10 obstruct his vision utter 10
got past the huUsc. Don know as lie saw any,
thing While going down. Looked for Phillips a.-
ter he got down thefo-whle guing do"n booking
for Phillips aud Morse. The ihiCket IL southeast
from Phillips house. Don't ,ecuilec. siuling 10
any person that nobndy saw Phillips shoot. Don't
know W heelcr Hedges. Has no recollection Of
telling HIM lac did hot see Phillips shoot, or any
thing to that effect. Should think be would re-
member ii il he ever had said so. Tad lived therc
. or mOnlhs--hdd not been there all the tine
had been helping his uncle Holiday most Vi The
time during the day-nghs he was there most Of
the time, Had hut very lille acquaintance with
Philips at that limc-had seen him frequently.
There were three fences between where he stood
and Phillips. Don't recol.ect whether Muses.
line fence was Up. There was one fence between
him and where Morse lay, and the dog was then
between him and Phillips. Don't know that o
saw any cattle either from the box or after he got
down there. Don't know whether Morse had been
DIGGING Philips cattle that morning las
sworn once at Munsontown on the examination
before the justice on this matter in the meeting
house, on the samo night after MORSE was killed.
Has no recollection Of stating at that time that
Morse Lad been DIGGING Phillips ,altle--;hiGks
he could not possibly have stated lit might pos.
siby have been true. II he did state il he in,en-
dod 10 state the truth upon his examination at that
lime. Has no recollection Of stating at that time
that he saw Phillips coming up on the south side
uf the stable, about halt way between the s,lblo
and the stacks. II he stated that al that ,imc, he
presumes 1t 20 have been truc. Il was not true
that he saw Phillips coming up Oh the south side
o.! the stable, If he so stated on the examination.
Don't recol,oct having stated on the examination
ha, he came up abou, half way between the sta
BILE and the STACKS when he fired. lfhe had been
between the stacks and tae stable, lie would have
been on the east side of the fence. lie could no.
have been between the stable and the stacks and
been where he (wi,uess) has stated he was when
he shot. Witness has no doubt he would remember
II II he bad stated on that examination that Phil
FPS was between the stable aud stacks when ho
fired. Thinks the dog had got TO the house bt-
fore be started TO 20 down. The dos wps not
with Morse when witness and those living in tho
house col down. Witness wen, down first and
got back some eight or ten rods before he hollow
ed TO them. They then came RICH, down. Did
when he got down TO Morse, no found the dog
sitting there Ivy him. Was on the north side Of
the house when he FIRST the dog after the shot.
Did not then ste Morse or Philips. Thinks twas
abou, minutes from the limc he heard the gun
till he go, 10 the body. Has no recollection Of
ever stating tina, nobody saw Phillips shoot, dis.
tinctly enough to swear to it, or anything TO that
effect. PIesumes he has told various persons. ss
different tines what he knew. Has talked freely
with the states attorney on the subject-has told
great many .requenily-,old Dickey he had OBJ
jecions to telling him what be knew, or something
Of tina, impott--misht have told him his evidence
would be given when he was sworn. Did no;
consider himself employed--ha had no feelings ex.
ccp, that justice might be aune. Never had a
general talk with the states attorney since that
,me--,alsed with the states attorney to-day
answered oil his qucssions--talked with him free
ly last tetm--has 40 recollection Of spending an
evening with him this term-hss not been exam.
ned by him this term. Talked with Glover q
Cook about this matter very soon after II was
jone--don't recolcct what he did tell them--pn-
snmes ne told them the uu,h-i, was at Cook &
Glnver's house. where they reside he pIesumcs.
Told them he saw this man shoot (poin,ing at the
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