The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1844-03-15

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Island TIC spoke snlil his how ~ pred I'll
Mr. CAUSIN roec,a ard commended for the iNoor
sHd aesuftosy debate arose in relation to whom Il
belonged, ~ which Mcssrs, CAuSIN. HALE
WIFE and Met LERNAND participated.
McClernand. wv ~
The morning hour having expired,
MIR MCKAY called for the.ofders OF the day.
Mr.. HARDIN moved to suspend tho rules. so
az 10 allow him to offer q resolution calling
upon the Secretary Of the Treasury for information
IN relation ~ The tariff, and demanded the yeas and
nays which were ordered
The CLARK called The oil, and The following is the
resuIt--yeas 81, nays 80.
30 the rules were not suspended.
| The SPEAKER presented communication from
the Clerk OF the tfiouse of Representatives, which
was lad upon the table and ordered to be printed.
Mr.. MCKAY moved TO refer line bill making appro-
prlaons for the current expenses Of the Indian De-
psrtment 10 the Committee Of Ways and Means,
which WAS agreed 10.
Mr.. KENNEDY, of Maryland, introduced q bill
regulating the tonnage OF hips which was referred
TO the Committee on Commerce.
Inc House then, on motion of Mr.. kcKAY resell
ved itself INTO Committee Of the Whole on the state
VI the Union, Mir. Dromgooe in the Chair and took
up the bill making appropriation for the Military
Academy, and the question then REQUIRED on the
amendment tothe amendment, and il was decided in
the negative.
Mr.. HAMAlETT then moved 10 Law the bill
position 10 the nsltuton bnd taid it could not long
stand unless it was Ieofga Dxed, il was becoming
more and more unpopular every day, He then pre-
scented to the House plan for anz alton and
illustrated It's Wacticability in CHAR and concise
manner
Mr. FISH opposed the proposed change in the in
stu'icn sugge by she gentleman frou Mississippi,
(Nlr. Hhmmett
Mr.. MCKAY said he was opposed to educating
more young gentlemen than would be absolutely Nc
cessary for the Army, and that the Military Commit
Tee would report bill In few days curlaiing the
expenses of that institution which would if adopted
meet great many of the objections to that institu-
lion. he said he was in favor of allowing Young
men to go there and be educated at their own ex-
Pense, which was the pursued by the British
Government; and be was in favor of promoting
melorous non-co .,missoned officers, which was
not the case under existing regulations and this
the reason why there were so many desertons from
the Army. tie, however was not in favor of abo-
FISHING the Institution, as proposed by the gentleman
from New Hamphire, (Mr. Hale He hoped the
gentleman from Mississippi, (Mr Hammett,) would
not press his motion, but allow the bill be reported
MIR. CAVE JOHNSON said it was true that the
Military Committee had the ject under consdera-
ton but whether that committee would report or
not was very different question He suggested to
the gentleman from New Hampshire Mr. Hale1 to
withdraw his substitute abolishing the institution, and
propose proyso prohibiting the appointment Of any
more Cadets, and thus cure the evil of supernumera
ry officers in that way. He, however, said he be-
lieyed the institution ought to be abolished.
Mr.. BLACK denied the power of this Govern
ment to create school for the educating of private
young men, and, if the Academy was not to be an
appendage to the Army, abolish it. He was opposed
to audinous construction of the Constitutions; and
by that instrument Congress has the power to raise
an Army but it has no power to educate private
young men, He did not deny that there had not been
abuses In the institution, but the proper to
pursue was to correct those abuses and preserve this
valuable institution
Mr.. HARALSON said, as the Chairman OF the
MILITARY Committee II was proper for him to state
that that committee intends to make report pro-
posing educton of the institution to the wants Of
The Army and II 1t was not to he purelyIa national in
stitution, he would prefer abolshing altogether
tie said the young, who have graduated from that in
sutution have always cvnced readiness to hier
country IN every relation 10 life well as any other
class Of citizens and he did not say this dsparage
ment OF the militia of the country He was also in
favor OF promoting meritorious soldiers from the line
of the army, and he hoped all of the amendments
would be voted down.
la message from the Senate informing the House
that that body had passed several bills
Mr.. FlCkLlN next took the floor and opposed the
sprsrfess@s<I AID advocated the -ehaishns OF the
lnst&u tson Nnd offered ameudment proposing to =
strike out all OF the bill, and recommitiing it, with
to he committee that they report
one aboshng the Institution after four years from
this time.
MI VI DAN 10 advocated the institution warmly
for lis national importance.
Mr.. BLACK, OF Georgia offered an amendment
making IT obligatory that all cadets should be COM
peled to serve ten years, and if they should leave
before that time they should be considered deser-
ers
MIR. HARALSON said the only difference of the
amendment proposed to the present law as to
ime.
Mr. BLACK asked Mr.. HARRISON if they could not
esign il they thought proper
Mr. HARRISON said they could not without the
onsont OF the Department
Mr.. CRANSTON suggested, as a modification,
he woris If The Department required their services,
which was accepted
Mr.. HALE opposed the amendments, and the in
iltullon Itseif, and said was in ,lerogation OF
government Of equal laws and privileges
Mr. McCLELLAND advocated the institution,
nd sad that Congress has the constitutional power
o provide for it and ca led the attention of the
House to one of the messages of Mr. Madison, re-
omnending j. {, favorable consideration. He pre-
umed no man understood the Constitution better
han he did and 1t was also iavorably recommended
their at en,on by GeneIal Jackson, whose opinions
III were bound to respect
The question was further debated by Messrs
HOLINESS WELLER and WINTHROP
Mr.. S rEENROD asked what would Ne the effect
t the amendment Of Mr.. Black, of Georgia, pre-
ailed
The CHAIRMAN made some remark, which was
naudblc
Nh BLACK then Withdrew his amendment
Mr. J. r. INGERSOLL said, in the remarks he
lade few days ag , there a small error in the
eport, which made ii appear that he Disseminated
favor OF the officers OF the Army, at the expense Of
re militia. In making the remarks, he did not in
md TO cast any reflection whatever upon the citizen
'ldery OF the country but to point out the coun-
Y the usefulness of the institution lie then called
re attention Of The House to the opinions Of General
ackson IN relation TO the national Importance of the
stltution.
MIR. SCHENCk followed in opposition to the
mendment of the gentleman from New lamp
IRE proposing TO abolish the institution
Mr.. STEEN ROD moved that the committee rise,
I'd tellers were called for and ordered