The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1844-01-24

right upon the ground Of expediency, as was the
case with the American Government 10 the right to
| occupy the territory of Oregon. He went into an
historical view of the subject, referring to various
authorities IN support of his argument
Mr. WINTHROP asked the Chair if the rules had
been suspended 10 allow the debating of any subject
ana II The suspension did not include the morning
hour Tor The presen alton of reports only
The STEAMER said the rules had b, en- suspended
| Internationally.
Mr. GlLMER suggested to Mr.. Owen that as the
oregon question was one OF importance, and one on
which several gentlemen wanted TO piye their views
The best course would be to let the subject go TO
Committee of the Whole House on the state of the
| Union, where the question would be debated and all
amendments offered and asked him TO give way TO
allow hlm Mr. u. TO make that motion.
| AT tins time desuory debate arose in which
Messrs. Z. }. lNGERSOLL, DROMGOOLE GIL
MEX, SAMPLE, CAVE JOHNSON, and OWEN
participated, as to the proper course to pursue.
| The SPEAKER explained and said il would take
a vote of two-thirds
MT. DROMGOOLE then moved that the House
resolve itself into committee of the Whole and take
| up the subject
The SPEAKER rose and stated the question to
be suspension OF the rules to allow the
House to resolve itselfinto Committee OF the Whole
| and that the report be printed
Mr.. I. j. lNGERSOLL: There was no motion
made to print
MIR. ADAMS Then | move that it be printed
| Mr. c. J. INGERSOLL called for division on
| the question
Mr. ADAMS demanded the yeas and nays, which
were not ordered.
| Inc question then required Oh printing, and was
| decided in the affirmative
| Mr.. ADAMS then called for the orders of the day
and asked if the report the rules was not first in
| orderi
The SPEAKER said that would be the first bust
ness In order after the morning hour had expired
| MIR. WINTHROP said that the rules had only
been suspended for the morning hour which had
expired.
. The SPEAKER said that before the morning
hour had expired, the gentleman from Indiana (Mr.
owen mad moved that the rules be further suspend
ed, SO as TO allow the House to resolve itself into a
Committee OF the Whole on the state of the Union
and take up the report the Oregon question: to al
low him TO finish his remarks which motion was the
first in order.
Mr.. RATHBUN made an inquiry of the Chair,
which was naudbIe.
The SPEAKER replied in either case the motion
to suspend the rules was in order.
Mr.. ADAMS then called for the yeas ard nays,
which were older,d.
The Clerk called the roll and the following is the
result yeas ILL., nays g.
! 80 the rules were not suspended-two thirds not
voting in the affirmative.
| Mr. }. w. DAVIS offered resolution allowing
| Academy for the instruction of the deaf and dumb,
Tor an exhibition of their pupils which was concur
red in
Mr.. McCLERNAND made an adverse report on
some SUBJECT, which was inaudibe, but it appro-
priately disposed of.
The SPEAKER then announced the orders Of the
day, which was
THE REPORT ON THE RULES.
MIR. SAUNDERS then took the floor to finish his
| DO
the morning hour. In the course of his remarks he
alluded TO the petition presented by Mr.. Adams at
the last session Of Congress- Of George Latimer and
5000 other sgners, citizens of Massachusetts, who
was runaway slave from the state of Virginia and
who the highest authorities of the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts had decided fugitive slave and
who was ordered to be restored to his master but in
the lace OF this solemn decision, the master of said
Latimer was compelled to sell him to the Adolf
'onisis OF Boston, or lose him altogether in defiance
OF the laws OF the land. He then called the atten-
ton of his colleague Mr.. Cngman) to the charac-
ter OF the petition, and told him that by the he
had TAKEN If the 25th rule should be dispensed WITH
1t was an exemphcaion of the character of the
! petitions which will be thrown in here BY the Adolf
tionists of the North. He then appealed TO his
Northern friends who had stood by this rule not
now TO desert 1t, because if they were right
when they first sustained this Iule they were
equally right now in voting for its retention He
| appealed To the Democratic members from Maine,
who had heretofore stood by the South, and hoped
they would not desert them now if they did he would
appeal to those from the State Of Connecticut and
II they deserted them, he would appeal TO the patriotic
State OF New Hampshire, which, he felt sure would
not desert the South He appealed to the gentleman
from pennsylvania, MIR. Bidack, who had stood SO
nobly by the South, in vindication of their rights
during the last Congress, not nowito desert them fhe
was right IN the first instance, he would be right
| in giving the vote.
Mr.. BlDLACk: have given my opinions
Mr.. SAUNDERS then said, he would appeal to
the great State of New York and if they deserted
the South he would finally appeal to the great and
patriotic West. Here he was cut off the remainder
of his hour having EXPIRED
Mr. WINTHROP next took the floor and spoke
IN favor OF the right Of petition its broadest sense
referring to great many authorities in support of his
argument. lie mainly replied to the arguments of
Messrs. Rhet and Belser, and spoke until the morn.
ing hour expired
Mr.. PARMENTER said he had presented bill
several days ago, to supply deficiency in the Navy
Appropriation of the last fiscal year. so as to enable
the Secretary Of the Navy to keep the hands in the
different Navy Yards employed until the regular APP
preparation was made; and he moved that the House
resolve itself into Committee of the Whole House TO
take up said bill but withdrew the motion to allow
Mr.. ADAMS to present resolution of the Le-
gIslature of the State of Massachusetts, asking an
amendment Of the Constitution so as to make the
Federal Representation based upon the free popula
ton of the country, and moved that it be read
The CLERK commenced reading, when
Mr. CAMPBELL of S. c., objected
Mr.. ADAMS: The gentleman had no honorable
motive in his objection and alluded to the courtesy
which had been extended on yesterday to his col
league, Mr.. Rhett.
! The SPEAKER called Mr.. Adams to order for
using dlsresPecuul language to a member
| Mr.. CAMPBELL: Had the gentleman from Mas
sachusetts an honorable motive IN presenting it
Mr.. ADAMS demanded the yeas and nays
Mr.. SAUNDERS ask, Mr.. Adams if il was the
original
MIR. ADAMS: ] would inform the gentleman
from North Carolina that it was introduced into the
Legislature of Massachusetts originally by De-
mocrat.
Mr. SAUNDERS: That gives me no pleasure.
Mr. Z. j. lNGERSOLL asked MIR Adams if il
had not been re ported hy his CON ,ybo ;e roap,he