The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1844-01-24

I Mr.. C. J. INGERsOLL asked Mr.. PARMESrrn
II the amendment limited the or the time, so
not to leave il under the control of The Executive
] II 30 he could Sc no objection 10 IL.
! MIR. PARMENTER said IT would end with the IFS
cal yesr
! air I SMITH, of Illinois, spoke against the bill,
and said he for holding the Executive TO strict
accountability for specific appropriations and as
opposed 10 the discretionary power OF transferring
The public money from one object To another and
was rather severe upon the Secretary of the Navy.
Mr.. FAhhENTER explained the object Of the
bill
! Mr.. NORRIS, of Pennsy lvania, said when the bill
Was first introduced he was opposed 10 II but with
The amendment, he was satisfied. lie thought the
gentleman from Indiana had exaggerated the facts
iiltie under misapprehension ID the Secretary
and mol the workmen who had asked this traner and
| he would inform him that the Dry Dock at Phade-
phia, aud the vessels ia that yard were compelled To
Dc stopped Tor the want OF funds lie saw objec-
tons to the bill as amended, and sh uld for T.
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON spoke ARMY against the
biii casting severe censure upon the Secretary. He
wanted TO know II the money which had been appro-
Priated Tor The repair Of vessels had been expended
Inc 02oOOOO which are asked To be tranferred belong
TO The seamen abroad, and when they home APP
preparation VIII be asked for to pay them, add he
| could mol sanction such a course There were more
abuses In tins branch Of the Government than any
other, and he hoped there would be no appropra-
lioh without limiting the power of transferring funds
thereby implying censure.
MIR Z. j. iNGERSOLL said there had been three
secretaries OF The Navy since the Administration
came into power, and he wished the gentleman from
tennessee TO name which of the three had transcend
! ed ms powers. lie was opposed to whipping them
selves by applying censure TO some of the Secre
es, and stopping the Navy by Withholding appro
| priations The Navy did not belong to the Sec eta
ry, but to the country and he did not think it right to
punish The poor men who had abored for the Gov
eminent faithfully II was wrong and should not re-
ceNe his vote lie admitted that there had been
some improper application of the public money but
that no reason why the House should spite itself b,
Withholding this transfer of appropriation. He
saw no objection to the bill amended but the other
day he had objected TO il, and The Of the gen.
lleman from Massachusetts, in pressing it that it night
be passed IN It's former shape, but that objection
was obvlaed, and he should vote for the transfer.
MIR. MI PHY replied TO the objections urged by
Mr. Cave Johnson. He said although he represented
brooklyn yet he did not support it upon local con-
sderntion, but for the benefit of the whole country
II the objections oil the gentleman from Tennessee
were 10 prevail aud no discretion allow ed to the
Secretary, he would he compelled to come forward
with estimates for an appropriation of 5000 600,
to meet the lte-way of unforeseen contingencies.
| Mr.. ATKINSON said, gentlemen from the West
who opposed the Navy had had the pleasure Of
| seeing the beautiful ships of the American Navy
aloat, or they would MT be hostile to It's prosper
! y. II Is the night arm of defence and he
friend TO The Navy 1t should be fosered by the Gov
eminent and gradually increased. Instead of the
late Secretary Of the Navy (Mr Upshur being ex-
travagnnt, changed by the gentleman from Tennes-
see II was the reverse. He thought he had pulled
the purse strings too ght having eye to economy
He knew him well, and knew that his idea of econo-
my IN The Government was strong characteristic of
the man. The gentleman from Tennessee, and the
gentleman from Indiana, had said this was an appro-
pIIaon to CRAFTY the workmen, and to feed tier
families II was no appropriation, but transfer and
hese men were Lot asking favors, supposed but
| right. Their hard hands and honest hearts, the
sound OF the axe and the sledge are the emblcms of
their industry and patriotism, without which the
Government could not exist. They ntelli-
gent industrious, and patriotic any other Glass of
people on the fac, of the earth. He then enumerated
the vessels at the Gospot Navy Yard which this
transfer of funds required 10 flash and epar.
MIR. HARRISON was opposed to this transfer
ring of money from specific objects Of appropriations
and commended that the people should know what be-
ca ne of The public money, which could not well be
accounted for except all appropriations were specific.
lie was opposed TO giving to the Secretary of the
Navy any discretionary power in relation to the app
cation of the public money.
Mr.. HUGHES here read the BILL and said he lid
not understand The meaning of the word increase
1t might mean increase of the Navy, and asked
| MIR Parmenier for an explanation.
! MI. PARMENlER explained its meaning and
SAID II was not intended 10 inciease the Navy except
those vessels already in commission.
Mr.. HUGHES said he concurrd in the views OF
the entleman from Tennessee, (Mr. C. Johnson
and believed there something wrong in this
branch ofthc public service, which should be ,em,-
died lie was also opposed 10 the Converting prin-
cipe
MIR. WELLER said, as there wss no prohab iy If
agreeing to the bill tins evening, he mov,d that the
Committee rise; but Withdrew II.
Mr. BlDLACk spoke sga INST the bill, because he
believed the day is not far of when all vessels Of the
Navy would be built e II, and propelled by steam
instead of rotten good-lor nothing wood
The question was farther debated BY Mesrs PAR
MeNrfR, BfLsER, and lloPHNs, until haf-past four
O'Clock when a notion was made that the COMMITTEE
rise.
The Committee rose and Mr. CAMPBELL the Chair
man, reported to the House that the Committee Of
the Whole on the state of the Union had had the
Union generally under consideration and particular
y the joint resolution in relation to the occupation Of
the Territory of Oregon and the bill making a GER
tain transfer of 500 900 for the Of the Navy and
had come TO no conclusion thereon.
Mr. HUGHES presented a bill establishing port
If entry at independence, Jackson county, Mis-
souri,
MIR ClJ. ING ERSOIL presented a bill TO enforce
the h0beas corpus in the District Of Columbia and also
TO enforce the law OF 1889 in relation TO ugitiyes
from labor
Mr.. HOPKINS gave notice Of his intention 10 in
troduce bill guating the time of holding the Cr-
minal and Circuit Courts Of the District of Columbia
and for other purposes.
Mr.. THOMPSON, Of Miss moved that the House
al journ.
And the House Adjourned al quarter to 5 O'Clock
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