The New York herald., 1844-12-06
American nstitute-Farmers Club.
TUESDAY, December 3.

/ AoEoDAf, OcccInDeI ..
SURJsCT-"Mwck as Manure"
This subject, which appeared, blazoned by ad.
vert'sement, and glorified by sundry stipenda.
ry editorials In several o. the journals Of the
city tor some days past should, from such prepara-
tory introduction, have attracted larger portion
OF the enerprslng and industrious illers and cul-
tlvalors OF the SOIL than TIE theatre Of the Institute
| exhibited on the appointed day. The fertiIizng
properties OF muck, poudre.te, and guano, as in
dlspensible 10 the vegetation OF our creature CON-
forts, were discussed, with practical illustrations Of
| the perfection Of each-that iorcibly reminded us
OF subject proposed TO US In schooLboy days. an
impromptu exercise Of inventive powers Whether
the games of Scotch hop, test0tum or four corners
with the fool IN the middle o advantage TO
nation" Here our subject muck, poudretIe and
guano and the only distinction could discover in tho
process OF the two controversies that the st
csed more penalty upon our judgment than prudence
10 our wit and IN the second, the eiemcnts of each
OF these ingredients were 80 thorous hly anayzsa
the properties SO distinctly traced and developed
that your imagination was at carried away with
the most sensitive conviction that each Component
part circulated within the range Of your oliactorv
conveyed proofs strong as holy writ that the subject
pointed hour, the chair taken by Mr. Fraser Of New
jersey, and the ndefagabe model Of self denial Mr.
egg acted as secretary The proceedings Of the last
very small potato affair we're rcad incion Of half Of
very monotonous hour The subject was then an.
nounced from the chair" Muck its mode Of
by several resolutions pre- posed by Dr. Field
Of the clubs regret IN the death OF the late Samuel Ste
vcn., us .uI anu m.eLnsent memner, ana OF highly
These were read and approved Of.
General TALL tADGE then produced specimens Of vel.
low and white ccrn raised in the county Of Dutchess
and complained that specimens sent in
without reference to the system Of cultivation ed
Showed the difference between corn raised in Northern
and Southern lattudes givl the advantage in stalk and
produce to the lakes Each OF the specimens exhibited
eight Of great denseness the
y hQ QrIn nf nnoro
ceplbity Of moisture peculiarly adapted for expectation
each Of these specimens measured sixteen inches in
early June When frost has evapor ated he cons
dered the best season for sowing The chairman
ed that when he was in Portugal the yellow from
Bucks county, Pennsylvana, was highly praised. Mr.
Talmadge recommends all contributors OF specimens
to detail the points OF excellence mode Of treatment &C
10 question from member, 1t answered thai the
process Of kiln drying for corn meal is not generally
adopted ner this diversion from the particular Subject Ia
tues" But Mr.. Wakeman had tell Col Clarke system
of sowing corn and hero another until
Mr. smyth at length attacked the question in earnest
He considered swamp muck" good for nothing unless
decomposed by time The muck" in the Ohio is com.
posed OF animal and vegetable matter He would reco.
land without lime
Gen. TALLMADcE said our soils require manure and
the soil. He questioned the economy Of muck The
casting out draining, combining with lime, shovelling
Tor two or three years, would exhaust as much
in labor as the value OF the crop Suggests that farmer
will the dry part Of summer spread his manure with
lime in broad cast in spring-turn UNDER when il will
more easily combine with the lime-it will add 10
the value OF the land Here again. the subject was inter
rupted BY member reading an invitation TO the club to
attend Professor Gardners course Of lectures which
accepted.
Mr. FIELD produced specimens Of "muck," as used up
on land exhausted Of the elements Of fertility. Ii muck
is taken from swamp in running stream would re-.
qulre long time to dissolve from stationary pool it Is
much richer and more nourshing His plan Is to drain
in heaps near the with 2e s.os and SepUst asr4v
out on the land between the harvest and fall sowing
snow avors the process By the action Of lime and frost
es Il Sssd u s
sprnkled copousiy He drew out $50 loads nine days
including even dollars for lime; thirty dollars covered ali
his expense Mr. Field produced some Of oats
raised by this manure
Dr. CAxrEas experience nearly corresponded with that
Of Mr. Field. Dr. GARDNER explained the influence OF
ammonia upon vegetable compost, and its action when
used dry or saturated This gentleman very happily and
est to the former.
General TALLMADcE spoke tho various qualities OF
imported - increases to "a pounds He had no expe
rence Ia the virtue OF guano that one ton Of Ruano
and ton oplaster Of Paris laid upon the surface
produce great results The true mode Of ameorating
the SOIL not chemically is by farm yard and lime
spread the field which will produce ipom scotch oats
from Is to As pounds bushel Mr. Harrison T. l.. plan
ted two he dc with one with muck and lime
the other with muck, lime and barn-y manure-in
is! he raised pounds to the bushe the crop fell of in
1875 he eped his seed oats in sulphate Of ammonia
while his neighbor could raise 26 pounds he had Al
in ls4s This earth smut affected his CROP still the oats
with gr at success he drew out and housed -he re-
conmends opening hole in the sabls from end to
as % Ds with mue and
taking It out and exposing il to the weather.
He raised corn at the fair, with poudrstte and
heard more about it, (Here the officers Of the club
exhibited strong symptoms Of selfreproach
turned the sod and brushed it down. after narrowing il
Poudrette produces better in dry season. He obtained
Us bushels from half an acre. from this process. He
hal nQ "
Here Mr. Meiggs carried round samples OF turtle soup
beans raised tho Hon. James Parker Of Amboy Aiter
too old it is useless and that under any crcumstances
It could only be used when the land sgrees with it, The
nature Of the soil should be studied.
Mr.. WEEKs explained the elements OF roudrette with
an analytic precision, the result Of much experience
DR. GARDNER was called upon to favor the company with
his on several laws Of chemistry rabe
to agriculture by far the most improving Of the remarks
Of the several speakers and at the conclusion the meet
ing which had thawed down to half dozen, separated
without deciding whether muck, poudrette, or guano
was most the fcriizing manure to the farmer
the last Arkansas inteLigencer that General Roger
Jones' Adutant General OF the United States Army Gov
2. NJ Batier Chsrokee Agent, and Lieutenant Colonel
the Commissioners TO inquire into difficulties heretofore
and now existing among the Cherokee Indians have ar
rived IN that country where it is hoped their high char
acter and ability will be instrumental in bringing about
speedy settlement OF the Misunderstanding which has
for some time divided the Cherokee people The points
10 DC AnDmVed LOT tner investigation are stated to be
ls To ascertain the numbers the "OId settlers and
Of the Treaty Party" who are discontented with the
Ross government. a. Whether their discomfort is so
great that they cannot live together in peace harmo
ny. 3D.. To inquire into all the ourages committed on
the Cherokees by one another, embracing the common
Indians as We as chiefs since the Ross emgrsnts enter.
ed the country in 1898 4th ompaints Of the Old set
tiers" and Treaty Pary"of property ofthe ex
istng government Of the Cherokees 5,h, All other
causes oi complaint which are calculated to produce ds
content, with view Of adopting such practical as
shall be deemed expedient
ACCIDENT TO THE STEAMER MASSACHUSETTS =
The steamboat meil from New York did not arrive
this morning till - o'clock in consequence OF an acci
dent in the Sound last night We learn that when n
Huntington Light about 40 miles from New York they
into by schooner the bowsprit the
striking with such force as 10 penetrate the boiler which
caused the OF the seam Fortunately no one was
injured. The following certificate given by the pas.
senges: The passengers commend the coolness order
and discipline, exhibited by Capt Comstock his officers
and crew. the night when the boat was dsmsged and
they make their acknowledgments to the captain Tor his