The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-12-02
Movements OF the Pope in spain.

Movements OF the Pope In spain.
A great deal of attention has been given of Lite
to the numerous movements of the Pope and the
Court of Rome throughout this country, in the adj
ditiona appointments of many Bishops---the nature
of their power-their peculiar claims-and the po-
Icy which seems to direct their conduct. 1t is
very evident that the power of Rome, having d.
minished very much of late in France and Spain,
prodigious effort is making TO establish new re-
igious system in this country hostile to the Con-
stitution and repugnant to the feelings of even
American Catholics.
On this subject, and particularly interesting, too,
we have had on hand. for long time, the Madrid
paper OF LIST January, 1884, waiting for seasonabe
moment to notice its contents, which we think has
now arrived. II contains the most extraordinary
Developments regarding the power claimed by the
Pope's representative in Spain, TO establish papa
jurisdiction IN that land, independent of the 60
vemment. The acts and laws thereof have been
combatted in so insolent MANNER that we must
refer our readers forthwith to the official proof be-
low, otherwise they could not credit for moment
so preposterous claim, viz: be the owners of
your own soil, and to put aside the acts and orders
of the heads of departments of that government
These disclosures have never been published in
more to enlighten the public than all the sectaran
denunciatons hitherto attempted by the pulpit and
the press.
AS our wing and locofoco parties have been so
extremely sensitive in regard to Papal authority,
we enquire, should an order come from Rome to
establish a Rota tribunal in New York, would the
Common Council have the moral courage to OPP
pose 1t We pause for reply.
We find that in Spain the bishops are elected by
the govemment---that the incumbents are all Spa
niards, and not foreigners; whilst in the United
States, leglons of bishops--a foreigners---come
direct from Rome, without any previous consuta-
ton either from the public, the general, State or
city government, and installed at once in their
respective diocesesall bringing their appointments
from foreign potentate. In this country, how
ever, as the sovereign power belongs to the people,
the only check which can be made to
the encroachments of the Pope, must come
from their representatives. their trustees of
churches, and ecclesiastical corporations. This,
therefore, is precisely the question which agitates
the Catholic Church in New Orleans, and which
formerly marked the attempts of Bishop Hughes to
nulity certain trustees in Buffalo and New York
The Romish power calls this opposition of trustees,
''nhdelty," and forth but it is nothing but the
true effusion of American principles.
Shall the Pope have more power in the United
States than in France or Spain!
VIcE-GEREscY, OF THE NuNcrAruRA ArosroL,cA,
Papal Legation0 MADRID, 9Th Nov. 1870 !
The SECRETARY THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Charged by our Holy Father Gregory the XVI of the
Vice Geency of the Apostolic Nuncatura (Apostolic
Legation) to this Kingdom Of Spain, with the acknow
will be aware Of the necessity that obges address
myself to the Department under your charge in conse
quence of the Junta in this METROPOLIS having suspended
Don Manuel Ribote Don Julian Pnera and Don Felix
Josef Renoso judges of the tribunal of the Roa as like
wise Don Antonio Ramirez de Arellano, acting Abrevia
dor Of the said tribunal and myself Fiscal of the
Nuncatura but respects this latter suspension it
could not have effect for it is than twenty-one
incompatible with my station VceGerent the Fscalia
is fulfilled by Don Jose Manuel Gaego honorary minis
such measure undoubtedly believed in good faith that
said tribunal was subject to their civil decisions for it
by means singular that the individuals constituting the
Junta should not know that the tribunal of Rota exists
law namely, by brief (oFder Of Our Holy Father Pope
he created mot popo The judges thereof are not a
pointed by the crown His Holiness the Pope reserved
this to himself likewise the appointments Of
dtor of the Nunco Fiscal of the Nuncatura and of the
oa all which appointments however would be made TO
individuals acceptable to the Sovereign Consequently as
those appointments are made by His Holiness he fope,
agreeaby to the gerachcal order OF the Church. they
immovable-they cannot be replaced by the civil power
they became vacant only by DEATH by promotion re-
signation, canonca dispensaon which cannot be e
fected legally without trial and by decision requiring
execution.
The tribunal Apostolic Judges are equally so they
exercise pontifcal auhority-they have cognzance Of
attribute has no political influence II is important
that the judges should discharge their trust there
should be no delay in the prompt administration justice
has remained in each Of the two which
constitutes the tribunal hope from your Excellencys
rectude that bringing this affair to the knowledge Of the
Regency of the Realm the necessary measures will be bet
to said suspension in order that the several in
cumbents may assemble to dschare their respective du
ties.
would readily abstain from grevng farther the Caho.
lie heart Excellency with acts pepetraed by other
untas which do not within the jurisdiction Of your
mel Of communication with the Regency of this Kingdom
must state that the Junta of Caceres has banshed their
Rev. Bishop the Juntas Of Granada, Corunna Malaga
Cudad Real and Others have deposed the Deans Dignta
re Canons Of the Holy Church. the Coegates Curatcs
and other Ministers o. the sanctuaIy and have appointed
ted and morned over in secret should remain silent but
must be too obvious to your Excellency that the terrific
ry Of the church has been and the order establish
ed by God to govern her has been overthrown for the
establishment of ministers their removal suspension is
power that belongs to her exclusively To subject the
of the Pastors Judges and other Pelaes I'm the ex
ercse of their functions to the temporal power is the
same as not to acknowledge the former Your Exceen
cy must be aware that impossible road has taken
nay truly Catholic persuade themselves that the Re-
gency will free the faithful IRON the shism which neyt
bly, awaits them should that road be obstnatey pursued
for the beneces that have been conferred with perpet
al title by means of the canonca granted TO the in
cumbents cannot be suspended or abolished but by their
Legitimate Bishops after trial for whilst this has not taken
place, they can never receive egtmaely another mis-.
sion This matter is too evident need not dwell
on it by alleging reasons they must be apparent
to the Regency, and consequently conde on their Ca
thocity expecting satisfactory reply the meanwhile
| assure your Excellency ofmy high Consideration.
(Signed) JOSE RAMIREZ DE ARELLANO
VIcE GEREScY OF THE APOSTOLIC NuScIATuRA)
MADRID, 18th November, 1870. :
Hrs ExcELLENCY,
The SECRETARY DEPARTMENT OF sTATE:-
SiR-
The Decree Of the Provisional Regency of this King.
DOM issued by the Department of the Gobernacon the
l4th instant establishing twenty -four parishes discts
in this metropolis supposng that tho territorial eccesia
teal divisions belong legmately to the civil power i'm
poses on me the duty as Vfe Gerent Of the Apostolic
Nunciatura to this Realm, to make known to your Ex