The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1843-12-13
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
TuEspAY. Dec. ID. 1913.

! At l2 o'clock the House called to order by
the Speaker, when the Clerk proceeded to read the
Journal of yesterday, during which, the Standing
Committees were announced for the present Congress.
After which,
Mr.. PAYNE rose and requested to be excused
from serving on the Committee of Elections.
Mr.. BARNARD said the amendment of the Jour
nal was the question before the House.
Mr. HOPKINS said the gentleman from New
York had no right 10 interfere with the gentleman
from Alabama as he rose to a privileged question.
He was according excused
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON hoped the Chair would
supply the vacancy Immediately.
The House then proceeded TO the order of the day,
being the amendment Of the Journal, when
Mr.. BARNARD moved that the Journal, embra-
cling this matter from the orignation OF this subject
b. read.
The Journal was read accordingly.
Mr.. DROMGOOLE objected
Mr. BARNARD said he was fully prepared for
the motion just made by the gentleman from Va,
Mr. DromgJo lc ! but he was surprised that ii bad
not been made before. He wished It perfectly
derstood that his motion Was to amend the Journal Of
yesterday.
MIR. DROMGOOLE explained
MIR. BARNARD continued, and said that he knew
that there difference OF opinion between them.
tie stood upon the broad ground Of the Constitution
and of the minority, claimed TO exercise that
right lie admitted that the Journal Of this morning
containing the matter, war PLAIN summary Of the
factr bat IL unIniepible In relation to this sub
ject. He objected TO such course of procedure up
on the broad ground of the Constitution, hich de-
clares that one fifth of the members present may de-
mand The yeas and nays which carries every question
upon the Jouroa His proposition simply TO
amend the Journal and in way disrespectful to
this House lie should not press this question, but
his object was TO give he minority one more opporu-
nity Of asserting their righs.
M. DROMGOOLE said he would accord TO the
gentleman his constitutional rights, that Of calling
| the yeas and nays He conteDded that this paper
per Sc was erccptionablc, but he did not believe that
the gentleman intended personally any dsrespect TO
The House bu, he would voc against this monstrous
Joctrine here illuminated, that onc-fah carry any
naper upon the Journal, not received by the House,
/ until do msday He sp Ike sarcos icaIy IN relation
to previous position occupied by Mr.. Adams on a
! .ubcet similar tn the under discussion, which
caused considerable mcrriment He said when this
/ ,uhiec, came before the House, by report of the
Conn ittee Elections, which would be followed 10y
ono from the minority he would give them fair
chance of calling the yeas and nays when onc-ilth
of the membr.s present dcsired II, and carry lie
pro, 81 uron The Jurnal but this rregul proceed
! 'ng mu be nippcd in the bud, and he demanded
| the previous question which not seconded.
! Mr.. JOSEPH II iNGERSOLL spoke feelingly
and clnquentiy in support of the minority. He said
II was indrcja question bat this House in lis legis-
arise capacity overseps this judicial question by iis
| course ,f proceeding In the course of his remarks
he paid handsome compliment TO Mr. Holmes, O
South Caroline, IN relation 70 ms noble and magma
nnous course upon this subject and said he was al
v.vs ready to extend to ali the right hand of fellow
ship and was willing to meet gentlemen IN that
spirit.
! Mr.. II DALE OWEN said he was srrpsol al
the cou,s, pursued by he m nory, although tie gen
tloman from Pennsylvania Nlr. j. n. IngersolD had
appealed to their feelings olcquenty but he did
contend that the Judicial character OF The FRO
test was exceplionabe its character and dsrcspect
full towards the majority and he was always dis
posed TO grant to the minority all the rights guaran-
tied by the Constitution; but in this case they bad mol
oomplied with the Constitution, but had expressed
their priyae opinions affecting the rights of member
of this House. in language drrcspectful; declaring
that fraud had been committed in the election of
Speaker Was not this disrespectul' Here h
rave full detail OF the whole subject, from the com
mencement Of the discussion, in clear, concise an
emphatic manner
Message from the Senate, announcing the 1cai
Of DR.. LrsN