Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-09-02
NJ PER IAL EMIT,
STATE OF THE COUNTRY.
House Of Commons, July 2S.
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closes TO offer n observations on yybo, fell f,,,, ho
ngh honourable baronet lie complained of nv noble
friend tor the same that which he urged on
former occasion against myself that il my noble friend
' uisuust IN tue government lac should merely nav,
iade speech, but moved of ccnsurc or of wan,
commence And tue right honorable barono Observed
that doubtless my noble fend was deferred from 50 ding
oy CONSCIOUSNESS Of what (he remaked) had admitted
ma' The Government led resign their Offices an
appeal to the country would result in their resuinp tbe
Now sir, Old undoubtedly, express such an opinion one
hghi THIS session. but the right honorable baronet more
conveniently than canddly forgot TO mention that on
subsequent occasion ecan,ed that confession cloud laugh
ter and ironical cheers and, made wiser by the x-.c
OF tue intervening month"; had cautioned honour bile rente.
men opposite against precpitae reliance on that oo
warning them that could by means now be held re-
sporsibe tor ITS proving utterly erroneous uauehter1-
Du SIR the Argument of the right honorable baron,t in
VOWED in the aunt 10 which have advered is utterly IT.
Teconclablc with the principles OF constitution and in
d'ed with the conduct Of debates is no doubt
convenient for Government say that no opinions should
DC expressed against them unless accompanied by votes of
censue-cer,ain not u be carried. II well for the Co
Serncnt to hold that doctrine, bat opposition though
knowing u IS weak IN number believes that strong in
argument laughter and ironica cheers from the Nnisc-s
benches Is equally entitled itself of that m which
as strength lies laughter from the Ministerial sidel-name
~ OF debate, aud not bound accept the challenge of
us opponents 10 meet them upon that ground Of division
winch they happen TO possess the advantage must al
ihe same time admit that the experience the session JUS
uies the Government IN wishing induce lis to follow tho
course OF division instead of the course of debate: for
thong everybody who impariialv viewed the constitution
o the two sides Vt the house when we took our seu
here and when honorable gentlemen opposite were placed
on the Ministerial benches that the strength of debate oaI
be On this side against the other yet think no one have
expected that that inequality, that prcponderance on one
sac ana leroHy on theirs, would have bcel strongly
manifested a. has during the present session I1u
ter and ronica shouts OF "Hear from the Ministerial SIDE
met by cheers iCum the OppositO) Why the right hon
baronet complains that this superiority in debate which
has prevented the Government from carrying through the
house the measures they have proposed. uushter and
cheers) The night hou bsrUnet points 10 the debates
winch nave taken place Tor the Lutte progress
which has been made in the course Of legislation in this
house au informed that this complaint ms not been con
hcd 10 the right non. barOnet; have heard that in the
Of this evening" the conduct of this house Of Par
Lament been aragned in another place for having b
the polonsauon OF debates mpeGed the progress OF pub
hc business. Hear hear, from the OpposiJnJ must
say that more unoundsd complaint cannot be made.
Ones Of "a from the Ministerial bcNrhes and cheers
from the Opposi'ion Honorable gentlemen opposite say
that there has been too much speaking THIS side that
we have found much taui with the measures they have
proposed certainly think this Is q very yrauaical and
overbearing complaint IL has been said by very witty
writer that no tyranny 50 great that OF 4 who he.
ing eninenty ridiculous himself complains OF Others o-
laughing ~ HIM; aud hiuS that If Government brings
forward Ee asures 50 iadyised, Unframed ilcacu.
.aed oF the purposes they designed accomplish IS
have been some measures introduced By the hon gentle
man opposite every clause aud almost every word oeyery
clause, being open TO criticism aad objection hear hear
ms Hannca pFc;ens!on the part OF that Government
10 hnd iaui with those opposed them for expressing their
dissent from such measures. (Icar) But not onv am
prepared TO contend that the length which debates have
been carried Is perfectly ustabe, queuce Of the
imperfect aud Objectionable of the measures which
have been introduced but this the only cause Of the
scant return which the Government will have 10 make t
the end OF the session VI the which have passed
Into lav. The failure Of of the most important nea
snrs tie Government have Introduced has been owing
not 10 any discussions this house but the resistance
and opposition which they have experienced Of doors
near lear from those classes IA the country whose interests
F. they would have affected.
Then, have her Majesy's Ministers resorted 10 all the
means they had their command for eranr the dos
patch ct public busnessl CHcar, hear) Why were NJ I
the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill and the County Courts Bill in
troduced, IN the first instance the House of L1r' That
course might, think, have been adopted most advantage
ou>y; Tor during the early part of TIE session their lord
SHIPS time IL not mach occupied with business The House
u LORDS nave however sent Us down measure great
importance measure, however which comes somewhat
after its tmelmean the bill relating 70 the Scotch chrb
measure designed 10 heal division which IS pronounced
To be beyond "a laugh, and retain in the church
those who have shown that they do not to leave
Renewed laughier) The House of Lords has sent down
10 US various b,s-l2 Ia bat really when We look al
the subject OF those bills can't think they sufficiently
important 10 have occupied the attention If that learned
house during tie whole o five or six moihs' session
There Is bill relating to the law OF evidence another 10
pound breach and rescue "a .lugn third cupyh and
customary i'nuIes one regulating the discipline Of the
Queens Bench Prison, relating 10 appeals IL the
fny Connci two respecting the apprehension Of offend
c ono Tor Inc limitation Of actions, the Scotch Church
bill, and suppose connected wiki the schism in that
church-a bill relating 10 'moveabes' IN Scotland "A
laugh do not think that the list affords any sufficient
reason why the House OF Lords might have been oc
cuped, IN the earlier part OF the session. IN relieving this.
house from portion OF that business which, IN c6nse
qucnce OF the proaced debates in this house, the rove-n
ment unable get through here (icar hear The
excuse tor having done little u this house founded un
the multitude Of speeches which have been delivered and
the heightened debates which have occurred ia ono which
think the country will be disposed 10 accent Hear
hcar) The right hon. haronct opposite in going -our
the speech Of my noble friend defended himself against the
charge OF not having improved tie financial position OF the
country since he las succeeded % Office twill be
bercd that OF the great changes which the present row.
made against u.s. when they were IN opposiop
was founded upon financial deficiency They held il
10 he lsllrc ia fItnf
sponsbc OF It's duties, could carry the affairs of the coun
try, aud vet allow such deficiency 10 exist We had
deficiency doubt very sorry tive were Laughter
from the Ministerial benches) IL was stated by the hon
gentleman opposite, then IN opposition that that deficiency
arose from the extensive operations we were cnrryrr on
IN China and in India, from the necessity OF maintaining
large force IN Canada. That their allegation: and
beg that the house will bear 10 IN remembrance They said
y on carry on these wars IN every part OF the world with
peace establishment No wonder YOU have deficiency
bu what IS the state OF affairs under the management OF
the present government Those wars have ceased The
Chinese war has been crowned with complete success NOT
outstanding oil the predictions OF the hon. gentlemen oppo
site Cheers from tive opposition bcuchcs) When they
were telling that could fo5-Cc the termination of
the war, plcupntcutary wI-ab0ut that very time
Debating the terms asatisactoypcacc ChecrsJ That
war ms cease but b. TINS u h brought you address
i1E MiusCr>) goyd round of money. Laughter
You have got from China about 5000 sterling dur
ing the year ending m Apr, last, the result Of that
war; aud therefore, far the Chinese war concerned
though ihcc mghtbc deficiency while we were inu flee
such not the case with you. Hear hcarO 10 is admit
ted That the karin India Is not an element O. be taken into
consideration, because % involves charge upon th, rcy
MUGS OF us country; aud only in the event OF the East
India Company raising loan, and calling upon the govern
ment 20 guarantee 10, that this effect the national
finances In Canod, also, there is longer any necessity
for hc retention OF the forces which were main
llncd u that colony when quilted office bu, still Her
Malcsiy's present Ministers find deficiency deficiency
bccNc rather greater than that which existed when we c
Office No no. from hon gentlemen the Ministerial
benches believe the deficiency is 200 OOO more r,Ns
WON'T dispute about TITLES Ia laugh but the deficiency
is admitted But her MlJcsys present advisers have got
the 1,UU0U0O of money from Chin, which a., l.g -