The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-12-09
TWENTY-EI CONGRESS-.
FIRST SSION.
House of Representatives.

b9s from NeW Hampshire, Georgia, Mississippi
and Missomi-House of Representatives. IN Diff
cuuty-Pr0sped ofd Stormy Standardization OF
Cierk-BUto Refund Gen. Jackson's Fine &c.
:. This is the third day of the first session of the
18th Congress, and already has the House of Repre-
sentatives got itself entanged in such difficulty,
that the most experienced members do not see how
they work out OF 1t, except by adopting one of
two measures, neither of which can be at all agree
able to body processing legislative dignity or ac-
quaintance with parliamentary rules. Either they
will have to lay the motions, amendments, &c,
upon which they have been speaking all yesterday
and all to-day, upon the table, and say nothing
more about them, or that great disposer OF legsla,
tive inaccuracles-the Expunging Resolution-will
have to be applied. AS things stand at present, the
democrats will not consent to the first, and the
wings will resist to the death, the second alterna-
tive. But lest the readers Of the Herald may get
into as much confusion now distracts the House,
it will be necessary TO furnish them with very
brief explanation.
1t will be recollected, that on the opening day Of
the session, MIR. Barnard, of N Y, offered pro-
test, signed by himself and forty-nine other mem
bers of the House, against the admission of the
members from New Hampshire, Georgia, Mlsslssip-
pi and Missouri, and that the House refused to re-
ceive that document, inasmuCh as 1t was not at
that time sufficiently organized to entertain dis
cuss it, 1t will he recollected, ALSO that Mr.. Bar
nard yesterday morning introduced resolution,
with document annexed to it, for the purpose OF
preserving the journals the facts that the mnori
Il
admission of the members from those States before
they had taken their oaths as members of the
House. This resolution the House was obliged
yesterday to receive, for the purpose of its discus
sion, and II formed the subject matter OF debate all
yesterday, and as at the adjournment it was thought
that enough had not yet been said upon /. to bring
conviction to either side, its consideration was
postponed till this morning.
Accordingly, the democrats came into the Hall
to-day, ripe and ready for continuation of the de-
bate upon the said Resolution, but when the Clerk,
as usual proceeded to read the journal of yester-
day, what was their surprise, their modification,
their holy horror, when they found that the very
protest, which they had seriously determined to
exclude from the journal, was already there ! in
the most beautiful varieties OF black and white.
And their chagrin was not little enhanced by the
reflection that their act had placed it there, for
as they entertained Mr. BIS resolution and debated
upon It during the whole of yesterday, the Clerk,
in preparing his Journal had no alternative but to
insert the Resolution, and as matter OF course the
document attached TO 1t (the Protest) also.
Never were locofoco tactics so previously at
fault. What was to be done! When the Clerk
began to read the Protest all the democrats i'll the
House were struck as with thunderstorm. Three
or four OF them recovering, however, simultaneous
ly sprang TO their feet, and the first speaker
MIR. DRoMGooLE, of Virginia. object in the most dec
of the House when he notion is s pending n as TO wbeb
it will be admitted upon the journals | do
the more particularly as the question will up
ton to day when the yeas and taken the gen.
tleman from New York must get his paper spread upon
the journals. Mr. Speaker move to amend the journal
Of yesterday by striking the Resolution and Protest
upon which the House have not yet a decision
Mr.. WINTHROP, OF Massachusetts-The course OF the
gentleman from Virginia will just create confusion
will have the effect OF letting the gentleman from New
York have his protest the journal three times instead
1t is on the journals fairly already and think
Of this question will illustrate moral in legislation that
when effort is made to keep paper off the journal
in this way, it is always TO find its way
Mr.. DRoMGooLE-I believe shall withdraw my motion
to amend, MIR. Speaker.
Mr.. CHAPrELI, of GAS of the members whose
right is disputed under this question: cannot withhold
few remarks in reference to it. This House. far
attempts to regulate this question is judicial body
purely and strictly judicial had hoped that however
much gentlemen might have been opposed to in judg
ment they would have shown discretion suited to the
dignity Of judicial body Every contending have
that protest kept upon the journal gives preudgment
the question of our rights As member from the State
Georgia, fully commissioned ready go before this
House for an adjudication of the question provided, the
discretion suitable to judicial proceedings is Observed
But sir what did observe the first day the part
those who our judges in this House Ere the House
organized they tried record the journal writ
ten preudgment Of the whole queston-that alone
drawn forth at this stage of the proceedings AS
those members interested in this matter lido not
wish say anything in this preliminary proceeding but
have something say when the question comes up be-
fore this for judicial decision repeat that those
gentlemen who got this paper the journal have
given pyeudgment Of the whole question before this
body. would say those whom the Constitution have
made judges of rights that they should at with
draw from the journal Of the House their preudgment
upon them. well know that that prejudgment although
a
decision of our rights but for the sake Of the House
in its judicial character ask that that preiudgment he
stricken of either by motion 10 amend OF in other
manner The House was Yesterday with the
consideration of resolution and the essential subject Of
controversy whether was proper to insert this pro
the journals not and here while the question
was still pending because the Presidents Message
suspension of the business the whole matter suddenly
appears spread upon the journals WHY sir because a
suspension business occurred is the House to have this
done in spite of itse trust that the first thing the
such paper shall now remain on the iournals II ;s
nothing but prendgment OF the whole question. re-
new the MOTION Oh the gentlemen from Virginia to amend
the journal OF yesterday by striking out.
Mr.. bARs.Rp.-Mr Speaker wish to ask one thing-ii
tne made 70 strike out the resolution offered
oy me Yesterday mink mats what he wants Surely
that cannot be stricken out after insertion.
srtskke..Ine journal is read to give power to mem
oe,s 70 one' any amehument tney may think correct
MI. pAhNAhp-but TINS motion is to strike out rcsoiu
uon wcn iormeu tne SUBJECT OF the whole days depae
, Nj, DOWN, Oh Mo-When this question comes peior,
he Rouse proper shape we are ready TO meet ana oreaS
ances WIN tne Benuemen VINO nave signeu .nIs paper