Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1843-12-07

.oo, Of m a., emitted "A act for the apporiionmen
of Representatives among the severai ota'rs
inc 10 the SIKH census; approved june -o'n, -
and after the numes OF snch me'h"e's .i'c' ue ~
officer ,hav shall hear and decide upon all credentials
cerufcat.s ar other claus to s,at+ m the h"use
Reore s.n,s,yes under the Constitution oil 'he oh'e
Safes and The laws OF the Respective states
The roll WAS then called, and ~ gen lemeh a"
swered TO their names r. .,<
House II proceed to the election OF Speaker Tue mem
bers would prepare their ballots.
| Mr. BARNARD "a d he did not rise Tor the purpos'
| of iuterrupting the proceedings OF 'i7 ii"u' ~ a.
LAYING lis orrqni2aion. He did rise, however 'of ','
nnr.ose of h claimed the fght 20 o'
/ + ms nenbef vi lha House from tne otate Oh t'e"
| Ynrk-in his own name, and 10 IN names VI ia' 9
number OF other sent men who we're also representa-
lives this 'or from various S'a'eS' ''e' r1rN
which he would read in his Place
| Mr. DRoNGOOLE asked the gentleman from We"
York to pardon e single suggestion. he unue' s'''o
! " hen the House SANCTIONED me Feso'he y, 'nc '
members lint was the pleasure OF the House 10 pro
coed +, ho election Of Speaker and therefore u wa
noin order for the gert man TO present any paper uh
the House had petsd lis organ'zatioh ano ne SUI
| mted to the nentemans good sense "hethef ne wac
| not proceeding rrregulafly ,,.
Mr. BARNARD said his own good sense tau nun
that no or any other member of tins House, had Tue
perfect right 10 be heard now, when The Rouse was
unorganzed or when it was organized; but ne sho"'a
not no interrupt the organization OF The HOUSE ou
for moment, He proposed TO read paper "h'ch ne
held IN his hand -. a.,
gentleman from New York was taking a course which
he hid the rirbt to take He denied the right OF the
gentleman from New York, or any other Sen'ieman'
to read any paper in this House until II was
but according the rules of the House. ana @''n ~
consent and APPRECIATION; aod the genl sman rom ~
York mus. permit him (Nlr to say, that gentleman
knew very well that during the last two OF lhfee
he and many other gentlemen desired 10 say e.a,
deal which, By certain rule, they were mol perit u
10 saw AS t, the question which the gentleman hao
anticipated, and which the gentleman from s. Carolina
Mr. CampbeIil called painful question, he hopeo
h.y ehout hear great deal upon 1t, tor II was one on
Which they owed it to the people OF ms country, anu
TO The St es debate and 10 de berat- bat at present
he submitted that any discussion was premature ana
,,reuula- lie M; / J would use harsh terms ];
but he would repeal, that it was irregular IN me gen.
tleman from New York II read any paper IL
tina, GENT man had such right, ell the other gentle
m II there had ihe right to read papers ana
what would be the consequence why, III lhe eSef'
else OF such u "ryhi," they would interrupt the or
san,zqtion of the House and would II not therefore
be- if not outrageous, al last preposierous lhere
was no occas for this discussion now lie could as
sure gentlemen the question would not ne aoaseu
The honorable gentleman from South carolina, Cur
Camobeli) they had assurance, would present IL 20
the House, and It must then be debated Nhy men,
in this chrysas state between the worm ana Inc on-
t.rny suggest difficulties of this kind They were
not called for, aud he protested against tner IN
troduet.on. The gentleman from New iork d'd no.
saw h had protest, az he mir thought II would
be called 1t was merely called 50 paper ! and he
asked ty what rule, Parliamentary law, papers c"u'd
be brou Iht in 10 mtsead AID disturb them. lie SUD
m,i.ed 10 the good sense o! the gentleman from New
York, if his not irregular, ana Out oil ouef
Mr.. BARNARD said if the gentleman from Penn
sylvania authorized to occupy the time and alien
wit
nuteS, he should ike 10 know by what rule he was
preven,.d from reading his paper. lie denied tha'
there was any such rule They III there as equals;
and VAS il to this, that the freedom OF speech,
and their right TO open their lips nj all in this House,
on any occasion, and under any circumstances was 70
be questioned; lie denied the right OF any one 10 IL
nit the freedom OF speech and he hoped proper couf-
,esy and Ct proprey, which ought 10 prevail IN
the House, would not be sacrificed TO an attempt 70
prevent hn reading the paper he held in his hand lie
nroDosed 10 commit no dsierb,nce-none whatever.
They were about u proceed in solemn manner, aud
the Clerk had asked the House it they were ready;
and he, Mr. of the members OF that House,
wished declare that he not ready, until he mao
presented the paper which he held IN his hand-oelng
his solemn objection the gentlemen from New Hamp-
shire being called. He hoped, in common courtesy,
the House would permit him TO read his paper Cries
of "Read u H. was commencing the reading; when
Mir CAVE JOHNSON rose, aud expressed hope
that the gentleman from New York would not persist
House.
Mr.. BARNARD hoped the House would silently ac-
quiesce.
MIR WINTHROP sad the House should know the
contents Of the paper before it required TO act
upon it; and therefore, he called for its reading for IN
formation.
Mr. BARNARD made remark respecting The char
of the paper, which did not reach the reporter
desk.
Mr.. C. INGERsoLL said (as he was understood)
that he then had no objection.
Mr. DUNCAN said, If the gentleman from pennsyl-
MIA had not, he orr had, an objection to the ad-
mission of that paper. What was the gentleman $ Oh
ec,? Al what point did he expect TO arrive: What
dad he intend 10 make? Could ( receive the action oil
The House: Dad the Clerk deem himself authorized
to put the question that paper If the gentleman
would make llase disclosures, he (Alr D. might
act according 10 the gentlemans wish but otherwise,
any act upon it would be perfectly useless con-
sumption OF tune
NJ BARNARD said the gentleman from Cao
would learn from the reading OF tie paper what its Pur-
por,
The Clerk begged spectfuly 10 stale to the House
thu in its present state he should feel 1t 10 be ms
duty to put the question on granting leave to the
House, and mot, in his humble capacity, undertake to
decide question of that importance
Mr.. WINTHROP submitted, that before the ques
ton granting leave was put they should have the
paper read, that they might know It's contents. The
question was whether the gentleman from New York
whose contents would be made known by its reading
He therefore, called for the unofficial reading of the
paper, that thsv might know what 1t was.
Mr.. HOLMES protested against the doctrine, that
The Clerk their presiding officer, could put ques
,ion to the House. If he iMr H should move tina,
the choice OF the Speaker, they vote either by bal
lot, roee, the Clerk could put it, aud the House
would be bound it, If there here anything
Objectionable, let hem go on and vote i, down and II
It reservatinn OF the rights of minority, lei
them respec, them Having giants strength, l+
them use il like giant.
Mr.. J. r lNGERSOLL moved that the gentleman
be conceded thu usual courtesy, and that the consent
the House be gwen hm proceed.
Mr.. WISE wished 10 know, IT tat leave was given
whether the paper would then he entered their pre-
lminary minutes in the journal of the House.
The Cl.,k replied, thal it would under such circum
stances. he embodied in the MINUTES.
Mr.. WISE sad he objected 10 ITS going on the jour
nal, and that objection would overule his desire Il
accommodate the gentleman from New York.
The Clerk put the question on granting leave, and i
was ceei mined IN the negative there being 90 in The
affirmative, and l24 IN the negative.
Mr.. BARNARD SAID he should not make any furthe
attempt TO read the paper; but he wished it TO be un
derstood, that the paper nothing les