Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1843-12-30

His object was thai the House, BY the adoption Of me
resolution he had offered, should give an 'hdica'io"
that it their design ID act upon Tie su"jeet uoS
he presen, session.
MIR CARROLL said it appeared TO him, from Inc
present indications Of the representation IN tat tonse
that If there was any subject upon "h'ch they
would have mere petitions than upon nlaer, y was
the subj C. of a reduction of postage and tikng, as
Indications of public feeling, what they iound III 'nt
pnt.c journals throughout the entire iand, he "ou'u
saw that If there any one SUBJECT upon wn'ch ey
wouli be called upon TO act by hundreds OF t'ousa"
of their constituency, it vas that SUBJECT lie oa nut
rise NJ ,his STAGE Of the proceeding because he was o
pcs TO the reduction oi postage; but he rose me!ely
seea use there motion made To instruct stahu'ng
commit q OF the House upon SUBJECT on when Tue
rr,itjons ger. merely a. their commence m'nt-upon
subject on which they did not yet know what were 'he
wishes nj the people Of this Union. tie had pet'tions
now 10 bis charge on this subject, ard he hah no uooo
that very large portion OF the members OF the House
had also similar petitions. lie merely rose, lnefe.o'e
TO express his doubt TO the proprIey, al ms une
upan The partial information they possessed IS to what
thew would be called to do, of requiring sianoing
committee TO make report. ltwoud be better 10 wa"
til TIE majority Of The petitions this subject came
in when they would have all the necessary information
in rerurd to III and from that information they cou'o
the better Judge what instructions It would be proper
to r,e TO the committee taking 1t IN charge
NJ. r. d. DAVIS thought that the point objected TO
BY his colleague the one that ought 10 De inquirer
into There was q general sentiment throughout 'he
cou.ty in favor of the reduction of postage TO the low
es, tale which the department would De able 10 sus
tain itself but he was no, prepared 10 ADMIT that Paoc
sentiment, went farther For his own part, he haa no
objection To the reduction 10 that point and he mere
fore wished the commi'tce TO make the inquiries pro
pos 4 IN the instructions.
Mr. BARNARD requested the instructions might
be read and they accordingly read, as follows
Rrsoired That the petition be referred to The Com
mittee on the Post Office and Post Roads and that SAID
committee be instructed inquire into the expedIency
of aboishng the frank'ng privilege, and OF regulating
the oil postage according 10 The CON oil Inc oh'-
I'd States and inquire irt' and report the lowest
rates O.. pasIags At winch the department can support
itself.
Mr. g. then called for the reading Of The petition ;
which was read
The question was put referring the petition with
instructions. and los, without DIVISION.
Mr.. HOPKINS supposed ;1cre could be no oblec-
on 10 the reference Of the petition aud that the House
had only voted down the instructions, which he hiin
self did not deem necessary.
| The petition then referred 10 the COMMITTEE on
the Post Office and Post Roads, by general consent
Mr. CHARLES ISGERSOLL asked what was
! the uex business before the House
The SPEAKER replied tina, The next business was
the calling upon the States !or petitions.
Numerous petitions then presented By various
members from 'her respective States.
From Massachusetts,, Alessrs. GRlNNELL, HUD-
son and ADAMS presented q great number OF the
class usually presentsdby the honorable gentleman last
named
| One Of these petitions was from Woodstock, IN the
S,ata of Connecticut, which asked Congress TO abolish
slavery in the Disc, of Columbia and The Territories
and the slave trade between the several States OF The
Union secondly, that neither Florida. nor any other
slave Territory be admitted int, the Union thirdly,
that measures taken for amendment 10 the Con-
sttn,on of the United States, that slavery may he
abolished The people of the States exonerated from
doing any thing sustain il and, iouEthiy, that com
mercla aud diplomatic relations may be instituted be
tween This country and ;he Republic Of Hayu
t,innr amaxy
rule.
Mr. ADAMS admitted that three Of The four prayers
OF the petition wi'ha The rule, and would be ex
cuded by il; but the practice OF the House had been,
when 4 petition offered containing several pray
ers some of winch excluded By the rule and some
were admissible under it, refer such portions only as
were admissible he, ths refore moved That that portion
OF the petition in relation tic Republic of Hayt, be
referred 10 the Committee Foreign relations.
The SPEAKER decided that the petition contained
matter which inadmssibe under the rule; and that
thu paris which admissible must, therefore, be re-
iecled with those that nadmissbls as the petition
must be received whole. The Chair he said, could
not portions of the petition, which did not vio
late rules without receiving those parts which did
violate The rules and therefore, the whole petition was
decided to be- inadmIssbla
/ Mr. ADAMS appealed from this decision, and called
for the yeas and nays thereon but this motion did not
appear To be seconded.
/ Tel!eys were demanded and ordered, and Massrs
Winthrop and G. Johnson were appointed; and they
having taken the vat, reported % in the affirmative,
aud 30 in the negative; which less than quorum
/ Mr. ADAMS 1t THIS resistance is persisted IN, i
! shall move a call of The House.
| A motion was made for an adjournmen but the yeas
ard nays being called upon il, The motion was with
drawn.
| Mr. ADAMS asked that the question he again put
npnn the demand for the yeas and upon his appeal
/ Tellers were again appointed, and the votes were y
favor OF taxing the question by yeas and nays, and
| sc against IT.
| Upwards of onc-Gfth voting in the affirmative the
yeas and NAYS nrdeied and, beng taken, Resulted
| as f.llows-Yeas los, nays ~.
| 81 the decision of the Char was sustained.
! Reports OF committees were called Tor when, the
Speaker having called through the list IS lar as the
! Committee Naval Alters
TRANSFER or NAVAL APPROPRIATIONS.
/ Mr. PARIENTER, from the Committee on Naval
Affairs reported bill TO authorize the President oil
The L. S. to direct transfers of appropriations for the
naval service under certain circumstances. This bill
la wing been read twice,
! hlr PARMENTER explained the objects Of the
BILL md expressed the hope, that il word then be put
lis passage. The object was TO enable the Secretary
TO transfer the balances of appropriations from objects
where they were not wanted t. works which had been
commenced, and which had been suspended in conse-
que,ce OF the exhaustion Of the appropriations BY
this means, the Secretary would be enabled TO carry on
works Of Importance, aud TO give employment TO o
number of mechanics who necessarll? discharged
during the recess.
! Mr. BARNARD observed that, from the informa
ton he had received, he feared that the gentleman
would rot be able 10 fleet the object he had in view,
by the passage Of the bill before them lie Understood
that, even il there should be transfer Of approprIa
ons allowed, there were outstanding accounts against
the department. sufficient amount, 10 absorb all these
balances that The object Of the Secretlry, 10 sci
these men 10 work, could not be accomplished without
new appropriations
Mr.. {. JOHNSON said, he about 10 submit Il
mot.on ,iat would pu, stop 20 'hs proceeding. lie
not wiling that matter Of this importance should
be passed through without, full discussion, in Committee
OF the Wole House and he, therefore, moved 10 re-
fer u 10 that Committee.
/ After cons 'dptcble debate The snhec, in which
Msssrs. PARMENTER, CAVE JOHNSON, LEVY,
! HALE, BEaRDSLEY, and BLACK, participated
The SPEAKER put the question on the reference
10 The Committee OF the Hhole, On the state of the
! Union which agreed 10
RESOLUTIONS
! The SPEAKER announced, that resolutions were
now in order which would be called for by Stlies.
Al the CONCLUSION Of the call, Tie House adjourned
Heduesday, Dec q, 1913.
IN SENATE.
| Numerous petitions on various subjects were pre-