Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-05-18


ordering the enforcement OF that right, the question would
speedily bc brought issue; but until done he
could consider that the question had been put ON sat
isiactoy footing. On this subject he found nothing detn
the treaty IL staedthe noble aud learned lord
had said the authority OF Lord Ashburtonha the
ter generally understood America under
stood m England. That however, was clearly the
Interpretation OF President Tyler.
IL impossible that functonary, being
der the impression that maintained the right OF search
was anything buncncd to admit that right lie did
indeed require that should give up the principle any
than the Sovereign of France required that William
Ill. should give up the title of the King Of England:
he expected that the right should not be exercised
were not exercised, 1t worth nothing aud ii the gov
eminent hestatod IN exercising and had issued
about issue: for its exercise
the greatest OF all possible blows would be struck slave.
trade suppression. OF course, he firmly believed
instructions would be issued. but at the umc was
he thought necessary right understanding tween the
countries that should be clearly comprehcnded by
the inhabitants Of America that cruisers if they saw
Just cause OF complaint he asked for only those terms
should stop vessel she sailing under n genu.
inc flag.
LORD BRoUGHAM-Not to see if she is trading in
slaves but simply enquire the genuine character
her flag.
The MARQUIS OF LANSDOwNE-Prccisely So
lie had put IN that hear, hear from Lord Broug
ham) and until he the President of the United States
admitting the propricy Of that arrangement, ne could
that he thought hoe that good understanding of
the subject between the nations which necessary
TO secure peace which he trusted nothing would disturb
Certainly, nothing so likely induce misunderstand
uoubt as 10 right OF
such inquiry aud search; any opinion the part
the Americans that the by OF the right
we claimed 10 commit Of violence and infringe
ment OF the peace between the countries. To esiab.
sh that peace he felt assured the object though IL
might not be the effect OF the treaty they now discuss
ing IL was its aim, doubt confirm the relations OF
peace and Of anty which, If interrupted and nterer
ed with by discussions at this could but rebound
TO the credit OF both nations. 81 sincerely hope the
noble marquis, that the treaty may prove Successu-if
does shall be the first congratulate the noble lord who
he
Ii fear that 1t will not it's not because entertain any
doubts as to the sincerity of the Government the
ability OF the noble lord have stated over and over again
II stated when first heard OF this arnngcmen-,hat this
treaty was not treaty that prepared to condemn.
speak IN hearing of who acquainted with my phi
vae sentiments tins and other questions and hev know
that TO this treaty have always wished well But when
am called upon To rejoice IN the concessions It has made
when am required express Joy the settlement 1t
eiiected-l must canddly own that however well NAV
wsn inc treaty. cannoiconcur in any such expression Not
condemning 1t, however, shall, think, best express NV
views and opinions not by offering the motion decided
negative but by moving your lordshp That this house do
adlOurn."f
The EARL OF ABERDEEN that it was perfectly true a.
stated by the noble marquis that the pursued by the
noble lord IN bringing this motion before the house by
no means usual The noble lord was in some
perry discharged by Her Majesty's Government. How.
ever this might be- he could help thinking that vote on
the part OF their ordshps would quite as much valued
by his noble friend, who in his place, when
brought iorwardb by peer unconnecied with anv party in
the house, and proposed, too with a power of coou,nrc
and ability other peer possessed rs If il Were proposed
by the Government with all the might and authority which
attached 10 an Administrations but because Her Najestys
Government had followed their usual course on such occ
slons and had abstaned from proposing any such
OF thanks as that now brought forward he must beg their
lodslps not suppose that they were nsensbe To the
services "i the noble lord, indifferent the benefit he
had conferred upon his county. (Hcar, hcar.l
Although the proposition such resolution in such
manner was unusual he say that the mode in which
he services OF Lord Ashburton had been treated
less So Formerly 1t was the custom attach the
Nernmen al! the responsibility for the of agent On
tins occasion, however, they had heard of nothing bur
lcism; not indeed, proceeding from the noble MARQUIS
OUT Us ne knew well enough very general among certain
class OF politicians, and proceeding from quarters which
though not avowed by opponents OF party opinion were
not the less understood TO express sentiments which
pecitd 10 DC made m public. But, whatever these critics
might say Her MaJestys Government stood there respon
sbe tor the acts OF their agent and ready and willing 10
snare any responsibility that might accrue: and among
those Ministers, OF course, he ord Aberdeen stood Pm
manly responsible for Lord Ashburon as their lordhips
well knew, did not 90 without instructions and whether
night or wrong those Instructions full and definite on
every point on which he had o treat
And here he saw that he had every reason 10 believe
that IN selecting Lord Ashburon he was not only selecting
man emnenty calculated for the discharge of the dus
which him, but indeed he had since been in
formed by persons Of influence American that there
in England who could nave Obtained terms so
favourable those O the treaty upon the table fHenr
hear lie had observed the his experience thai
hey were too often, disposed only show themselves
but too tie grateful for benefits conferred but even n for
get the extent VI those benefits and the existence of the An
prehensions from which they freed Now let their
10 dsips only call 10 mind what the state of public
feeling in England at the period Of Lord Ashbuon de-
paure for the United States He was perhaps better able
than most Of relationships estimate fully the circuman
ces Oi our position NJ that time. Every mn, might then
nave brought the intelligence calculated 10 put an end 10
the iHendy relations between the Two countries There
were many subjects IN dispute, and each Of Them might
nave gwen rise 10 difficulty. He would nut II 10 any
man. 10 any one Of their nrdshps, whether they so
sangune % have hoped obtain the boundary which had
been awarded by the King Of the Netherlands lie thought
no one could have anticipated that this country could
mat boundary for they bear III mind thai for Ten wears
II had been steadily refused by the United States.
Inc noble marquis had denied the position of tho noble
ana learned lord that the Government of this country had
accepted eauy ana with satisfaction, the award Of the
Ming OF the Netherlands. Possibly they might not nave
done so IN the ht instance, but award certainly
vas accepted and when the decision Of tho King of the
Netherlands was rejected by the United States II was ad
heed to by the Government OF this country Tor three or
tour years. aud perseycngy enforced upon the United
STATES II this award was very Objectionable as the no.
Ole marquis now seemed think IT, WHY when the United
States refused be bound by H. was II not rejected m the
Government Of this county, On the contrary every exer
ton was made 10 induce the United States to accept the a.
ward The noble marquis stated that the award of the
King OF the Netherlands would have sacrificed the NADIA
waska settlements, and he blamed the Government for ced
ing that portion OF this settlement when under the recent
treaty, had been given up.
But he begged remind the noble MARQUIS that ne had
voluntarily been party the cesson Of this very settle
ncnt what took place 10 1885 After the award OF the
MING "l Ut NtutTduls hud been rejected, the Govern.
cnt OF that day proposed To the United States new line
OF boundary which would have involved precisely the same
cession OF territory had taken place; they propsed
the boundary Of the river ST. John which divided ,b 49,,
hement Of Mudawaska. That proposition was refused
but would have coded precisely the same territory which
was given 10y the recent ircaiy The Madawaska settle
ment he might state, contained population Of about OOU
persons JOJD 81 whom were resident north Of the ST.
John, and This portion of the territory we had retained
About 1000 persons located south Of the river -
Jonn, upon the territory which he had ccdcd and 1885
proposition made give up that portion Of the settle
ment The noble marquis had noticed communication
OF Lord Ashbuon to Mr. Webster in which reference was
made TO strip Of land lying betwoc the north line and the
n'ef IT. johns and the noble marquis seemed TO think
mat tins alluson was 10 the Madawaska territory
That however not the case The reference vyos q,
portion Of New Brunswick which formed mo- mart d tho
disputed territory, but which had been boz the undisput,d
possession Of the Crown Of this country When therefore
proposition was made 10 codc that portion Of territory the
Government said, II impossible TO abandon IT, a. IL for
med no part Of the disputed territory aud a. the inhabitants
having received utmaton Of desire eyi.tinp ON
the pau Of The United States obtain H. ccs-ionhnd
procsed great unwingness 10 be removed from the do
ninon o this country. Lord Ashburion was coneo1ept