Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-05-29


THE AsHBURroN TREATY.
tooNTiNrIDl
lie Mr. Vernon Smith hoped that. n this 70
there would be special that the thanks should be
given by the honorable member Tor MOnuose himself icOr
hear and augh) The whole affair would then stand II
ought, namely something like absurdiy than
political act Severe comments had been made 10y the hon.
oabc mcmberor Winchester who had commented upon his
lMr. NorDon Smiths noble friend the member for liver
ton after his speech upon this subject concluding with
motion only for papers, honorable the other
vernon SMITH thought his noble friend had acted perfectly
right aud that the county much ndebedto him for the
he had made that occasion. No course was more
with the duty OF who had SLED hugh official
stations than hen Opposition benches, To state
his opinion the conduct the Ministry. and there not
In the country but his noble friend who could have
made that speech aud carried that chain OF reasoning
stating all OF the question, Of which were
perfectly new TO the House. He mir. Vernon Smith, Is
that alone OF the ability displayed in
the speech in question, but account OF the situation
which for had been held by his noble friend that
speech n useful exhibition TO that House, and
IT, he would ask, conclude speech OF that kind
with motion for papers What would have been the
OF division Checrs from the Ministerial side !
He thanked honorable gentement for that cheer
lie well knew that. when admission was made on one
side OF the House. To he hailed by party cheer
from the other. lie knew very well that on his side
they were in a minority. but honorable gentle
prepared say that minority was of no use -
Minocs sometimes worked themselves into maorites,
especially when their efforts seconded by energy aud
abilities such those of his noble friend. The tact was,
that the present motion had originated out OF the motion OF
his noble friend in rather curious in consequence OF
the determination of the honorable member for Montrose
and others have the opinion of the House; for the
House having the omer occasion been counted out al
n dull debate evening To that circumstance
Lord Ashbnron indebted for this proposal for vote
thanks II that House had been counted the
noble lord would have heard thing OF the present
notion He wished the House would remember what the
Duke of Wellington had said in his manly and simple STYLE
when expressing his gratitude for the thanks of the House
lie said nobest honor which be conferred upon
military and most animated him to brilliant exploits
the gratitude OF Parliament Was them of thanks
to be proposed to negoaor by honorable member
who wished for the opportunity OF making speech He
knew that opposition motion OF this kind might be con-
strucd into desire for He had no such wish; he
as anxious maintain peace and peace above
all with allies, connexions, and, he would add
our kindred the people of the United States But he did
think the best maintain peace to make perpetual
for it, and IL for that and not
of prediction for that he sorry this
negotiation had been entered into He objection
Its having been sill further ptoirnced II could notbe
brought better settlement than the He used the
word settlement because it uppemost but he denied
be n settlement. Hear, hear Those OF dis.
which had been thought aayed had revived again
the frontiers where they had existed before Ii
very well for the honorable gentleman bring forward his
appreciation OF the conduct OF the noble lord and the
confined to the appreciation OF that honorable member
alone, he MIR. " SMITH could very well allow him
press individually. Hear, hear, and Taught But when
he called upon the whole House of Commons their
thanks who had achieved permanent advantage
or honor the nation he Mr. " SMITH would refuse his
consent to such motion. Hear hearl At the same time
being called upon by his honorable and gallant friend 10
put aside the whole subject unfit for discussion in that
House. he should prefer that course and with his no.
norable and gallant friend Hear, hear
Mr. C. BIZ JLER regretted that upon subject he regard
ed with much interest and upon which he decidedly
differed from ut his honorable friends his side Of the
House. he should be prevented by indsposon from i'd
dressing the House fully he could wish. The House
certainly would be troubled by listening long him
he feared he should be obliged conne hmseto the
of opinions which would have little weight rather
than the offering the House facts and arguments which
would them in their discussion OF the question. He
not only going TO vote with the honorable member for
Monoe but he also glad that that honorable member
had thought proper 10 bring forward his motion. He Mr.
{. Buller) would undeyRluo preccdents, doubt
wisely adopted; but the time he believed the dip
iomatc history OF this country scarcely afforded instance
of important having been rendered; services
based upon advantages gained IN a in which
successful upon the ordinary Of
gouaoni out puInng an end TO dispute which threatened
most dangerous extent the relations of thus country with
which OF all others was mostdcsraor. JuIh
Ing aad policy, that Great Britain should maintain AMIGA
Die relations. On these grounds he disposed oyeroo
precedent tins instance. But there another
he should be disposed tooverook preceden- because
he thought the country placed in unprecedented situation
respect this treaty OF Washington, hear There haC
been debate upon the subecin which had beer much
ability and force of argument both sides; but yet de-
bate m the eyes ct the country had an appearance as all
who spoke that 1.-THE opposiOn) side OF the House OPP
posed the treaty. and Its only supporters the Min
by whom had been Effected Ii desirable
that the people of this country, and that the world al
large, should know that the treaty of Washington
not regarded as party question, Icheersl The sim
advantageous character to deserve vote of thanks OF
that House. He would call the attention of the House
what Lord Ashburon had really achieved He (Mr. C.
Bulle knew the custom had been To confne attentions
points which Lord Ashburton had settled and overlook
the importance OF those he had hear, hear.l He Mr.
Butler asked the House view the matter in this poin
Of view What had been the likely disturb
aions with the United States the twelve years
past and likely bring about catastrophe7 They might
be reduced to two; either those which OF the
cent insuuecnon IN Cnnada aud the sympathy" and hot
blood which had arisen the frontier the affair Of the Ca
ronc, the Of Mr. Mcleod and the ubse
quent The second cause compeended the disputes
which had taken place along the whole line from time
time the question OF boundary. There had BEEN in
fact three boundary disputes which had given COLI
sons. Honorable gentlemen would remember the differences
between New brunswick and the State OF Maine but
sogeneray known that there had been collision between
the New Hampshire militia and the settlers the Connoc
ucut nyer. Then. there the affair of Mr.. Grognn
These the great Of dispute, and when he Mr.
{. Bulgr gave his Of thanks TO Lord Ashbuon
because he thought he had done away with those
thear, heart In abiding the affair OF the Caroline, h
Mr. C. Bulerl dwelt more particularly upon the
Mcleod and the hot blood that had of his trial
Under all the circumstances the Government could do
hing but apologize, and the American Government had
ainy accepted sghtan apology ashley could The con
which the United States had made were not writer
diplomatic records aud contained IN the words of TN
ncgotntors; they merely embodied in treaty bn
they had been made the subject OF deliberate charge mad
by the Legislature of America. By the embassy Of Lon
Ashburon the security had been obtained that such an aa
ns that OF Mcleod could not again Occur-but that " Br
fish subject should hereafter be brought trial for
which his Government allowed it would be by the Federt
power responsible this country and the world for
ncts hear hoar With regard the value Of the dispute
territory he Mr. C. Bullcr say fairly that nothing
that kind worth the continuance Of any dispute bcwco
the two countries, although he admitted dshonorabl
settlement by concession made ~ Of the H. 5. wou
only have led fresh insults and demands and have bccom
the origin Of future aggrcss1ns, and Of nquy un
good feeling Let the House look the te rms made b
Try By test and then decide whether terms h1
not been obtained could have been expected. IL
them look the negotiation in s stagos, and
Lord Ashburton could expect ohave got He CMr
C. Buier commended that ted by fair test Lord Ashbur
had got better than could have been expected
The whole question: the rights aud coims Of both pnro
and the grounds by which they supported, had beer
referred the King Of the Netherlands and he had given
certain award. Now he would try the Ashburton negota
ton by that test and contend that he had obtained bcto
terms than those confirmed the award Of the King Of th
Netherlands lie knew that some cOncndcd there bet
Ter claim on side, which the Americans themselves ha,
n-c"vcfcdi but gentleman thought that after tWCn
five years controversy conyirou ,Vo,id agtt AN t. ii