The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1843-01-24

n as made, must nave OSen on SUNDAY o'eH hB anu
desired further 10 say that no such caucus was hed
At this or any other time To his knowledge. No com
municaton was impaired 10 him, from any source,
that a held directing report contrary 10
that which was made IN this case ] he next charge
as that at the opening Of his plan TO the Wings, IN
caucus ma jority Of them declared that they would
sustain this measure of the President but at this
stage the leaders took their stand and denounced the
Administration, and said that II any man supported
the President he would be a traitor, and should be
presented such 10 has country. With reference 10
this, lac had no knowledge that this proceeding
took place; il il did, he challenged any individual 10
rise in his place, and say that il was fact. The
third charge was, that al this stage Of the proceed
ing, letter read advising that II was the duty
and policy Of the Wings 10 defeat this measure OF The
Executive and let the country suffer, casting The re-
sponsbty the shoulders OF the President, an !
that II the public should have the Exchequer gwen
TO them, they would have measure OF relief, and
the Wings would be Invested of their political capt.
tai lie would remark that he knew not what MIR.
Clays sentiments were III relation to this subject ana
had heard that Mr. Clay had expressed
them in a letter. No such letter was ever O.
duced at any caucus of the Wings or TO any member
Of this House. He had no information TO
MIR, Clayhs opinions on this subject, except that
which he inferred from the character of the gentle
man, and from no other source. Having denied any
knowledge Of the caucus which, ii is alleged, took
place, he now asserted that so far related to the
Wing party, the contents Of the articles which had
been read were unequivocally and absolutely false.
II any member on this floor knew this statement TO be
otherwise, he (Mr F. desired that he would rise
and give the information II was due to the Com
mittee of WAYS aud Means and to himself, TO say
that they took up the subject wholly independent OF
ali others. SO far as he was personally concerned,
when he commenced the investigation he did so with
strong desire that they would be able 10 recommend
this plan, something similar, to the House and the
country and II was only after full and fair exami-
nation OF lis principles, that he felt It to be his duty
to recommend lis rejection. lie did not know that
he should say anything more upon the subject than,
that, If any member OF the Committee of Ways and
Means had any Information diff rent from that which
he had, he hoped that he would rise and give il to
him and TO the world. He was willing that any mem
Der should rise, if he belonged 10 the self-syed
Democratic party, or to what called the
F." Guard"
Mr.. WISE inquired whether he understood the
gentleman from New York. by the last alluson,
which was gratuitously made to mpute to him, or to
any other member of the "Guard, )" he pleased
to call those who supported the Administration on
this floor, any part lot in these publications of the
"Unon" and tho "Madsonian -
MIR. FILLMORE begged leave to say that he
would not suspect them of 'uch disgraceful conduct.
MIR. WISE thanked the gentleman for the dis
clalmer For his own part he knew nothing about
the publication more than the gentleman from New
York did. He had seen it, for the first time in the
Madisonian of this morning He was as onished-
would have been astonished, at the fact there stated
however little foundation there was for the state
ment at the present time-yet, looking to the past
he did know, and gentlemen themselves had conce-
ded to the country by the adoption of the report
VIII ch they did adopt, by vote Of about 100 to 80
during the last session, Gin which they set forth the
fact on another occasion, with reference not to the
Exch' quer but in relation 10 Fiscal Agent a eau
Gus caucus, nothing but caucus, by its machinery
did contrye out of this House the legislation Of Con-
de at To he pres
dent, TO know what his will was order that they
might comply"-(the language of their own re.
port)-he meant the report Of the gentleman from
Massachusetts-or conform their ac ion in comp
ance with the Executive will He would now say,
on this matter that he congratulated the gentleman
on the admission that if the statements read were
true, the conduct there alleged would have been
disgraceiul. He congratulated the gentleman
that he had awaked to true sentiments on
this subject; that if a caucus did undertake
to dictate to tins House what its legislation
should be- that it would be disreputable TO the stand
ing committee, and the chairman, and the party &c
which he Mr. y connected, to be guided by what
was determined by caucus. He did not wish to
inerf. -.." me hno of thu Iouse and no would
not have said one word had not the gentleman from
New York alluded to him and the five others who
acted with him on this floor. He should now con.
cude by moving that the House resolve itself into
' o 'he Whole, Tor the purpose Of taking
up The bill reported during the last session by the
select committee IN order that they mig 4 have fair
opportunity OF discussion. After the committee
snail have reported TO the House. they might deter.
mine who are for and who against action
INF. j. H. lNGERSOLL, by leave, presented two
memorials from Philadelphia one in favor of the
Exchequer scheme, as recommended by the Presi.
dent and The other from the Chamber of CONNIE rec
oil that city, asking for mutation of the coast
survey
Inc special order was announced-the repor,
IRON 'ie mayor " and minority Of the Committee OF
m tl.
Mr.. CUSHING moved that the special order he
postponed Tor the purpose Of going into Committee
of the Whole on the Exchequer bill
ALLEGED RIGHTS OF coLoRrp sEAMrN. -
Mr.. BOLTS moved, as a privileged motion n re-
consideration Of the vote by which the Uonse order
ed to be printed five thousand extra copies of the re-
ports from the Committee on Commerce on the me-
mortal OF Benjamin Rich, J. IngersoIl Bowdi,cb
Henry Oxnaud, :. Appleton, Abbot Lawrence n d
one hundred and nifty others, citizens Of the United
States some OF them owners and masters of vessels
setting forth that colored seamen are seized and in
prsoned IN certain Southern ports to the preiudice
oil commerce and contrary to the privileges of ctj
zens, and praying relief II was simply, enough 10,
HIM to say neither Of the reports had been read 10
Rouse, ana no members, except those on the com.
nlttee Knew any thing about them He wished IN
examine the subject, before giving the Congressional
SANCTION by ordering an extra number Of the report.
10 DC printed ~, on examination, he should find an
argument on one side or the other calculated TO aay
excitement, he would have objection TO the pubi.
cation but If there was any thing 10 infame the pub-
nc nnu ne should Of course, oppose the printing
Mr.. WINTHROP would only saw that The moiio,
to print five thousand extra copies of these rcport
came from the gentleman from North Carolina mir
Rayner) who submitted the minority report and the
gentleman seemed to have great confidence that this
report would settle the question and aay some of the
hended. o 'fP''
Mr. CALHOUN moved 10 lay the motion TO recon-
'ider on the table. WV"
Mr. WISE remarked that, in IS G, the Legislature
d virginia passed law prohibiting free neeroe. from
migrating to that State, and those manum1ted from
turning. IL seemed that, under this act, some CO.
ored seamen bad been arrested and ne w,n,od -
,now whether thee resolutions and the reuort of
he majority were designed to prevent Virginia from
'hercislng her own laws within her own limits lie
allied for the yeas and nays which were ordered