Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-12-30
TwENrY.EIGHrH CONGRESS.
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HOUSE or REPRESENTATIVES.
FIRST SESSION


The House proceeded 20 the consideration Of the follow
iHe rsoanon. offered yesterday by Mr. HAIE. aud which
va. laid over one day under the rule
r.eir~d That the SECRETARY OF the Navy be insuc ted
rsp 10 the House when the Home Squadron was lint
established by law what have been the annual expenditure
hrreo aud how much Of the estimated expense iot the
next year IL intended for thai purpose.
Mt HAMLIN moved amendment to sdd the follow
ing words 49,. u..,.,.,. -. =. .
Home Squadron"
Mr. HALE said the object OF the resolution was this-
would be perceived by the House that the Secretary
the Treasury r. ported tis House TINT there would be
deficiency money for the present and coming Of
over 81 5O0O 600. and this he proposed tho usual
e,pedient and Of every poigae, viz to borrow.
Mr. idea was that they could reduce the expenditures
IL the Government within It's income and that that was the
true policy Of tho Government. and the only honest policy
which the Government could stand la looking q see
where curtamcnts could best be made, he that the
Secretary the Navy asked nearly S9OOOOO0-n other
words nearly halt OF the whole of the Gov
~rnment--to be expended Navy. For tho home
s9usdon though ct modern origin, he understood,
The believed they indebted 60 this Administration Tor
~. the Secretary Of the Navy proposed the enormous
OF sixteen vessels at and he snd that the
home squadron wanted tor the protection OF the
ing trade The section of country whence he (Nlr H.
largely concerned IN the coastng trade
large portion Of its commerce carried on nv H.
and he believed the universal sentiment o every
concerned in il that they wanted such outlay
Qucd sustain IT, lie believed IL tile information cil,d
for by the resolution laid before the House. that the
House would tangible point on which they could
put their hands and apply that mUchialkedoi, hut little
owed 10 the country show that they were IN earnest IN
this matter and what they said. lie wanted this
information show whether ihis enormous expenditure
conld be cut down, and tat without endange"g the in
tercsts Of the country.
Gentlemen talked mir H. understood To say) about
building up navy be able cope with the navy
Great Britain. Had gentlemen any idea at the annual
expenditures OF GroOt Britain for the support oi her naval
establishment Between eighty and hundred millions
expended by her annually for tins objects and
wanted navy cope with that OF Great Britain,
till the annual expenditures Of from
nifty one hundred millions Ii was oil idle. We did moi
tins great establishment to be sustained NJ home
abroad. When the expenses OF tho had been only
four millions, Jackson had produced effect upon
the oldest Governments OF Europe, he that OF France
that would be impossible this Administration. with all
its navy effect His influence and his power had been
found IN the moral dignity OF his character and IN the cha
OF his Administrator.
Let this information laid before the House. and let
Their information be brought before them, and they would
this profgatc cXpcdicnt borrowing without any pros
pect OF being able to pay was not the policy al the Govern
and for department % the Co
Nernment When was the pay day To Gomez In time q;
profound peace, wien branch OF industry and trade
IN operation, and the hand OF industry reape abundant
reward, still 60 Oh borrowing, aud gentlemen
talked about increasing the 1t was time 10 stops To
show the country IN earnest about tins matter
that they what they said that eir professions OF
enohmenI not all and that the House and the
cSuny might where the evil existed and where the
rnedy might be applied lac had offered this resolution II
could do no hurt and he hoped ii would be- adopted.
Mr. {. J. lNGERSOLL called for the reading OF tho
solution; which read by the Clerk.
Mr. l. said hc could say that he the main op-
posed TO the resolution; but appeared to him that the first
part quiIe exccpnonnbc aud altogether unnecessary
The time when the Home Squadron established was
fixed by law and the gentleman knew this the
seemed 10 him Mr. H. therefore that the first branch
Tins resolution rather worse than slpertiuous
Mr.. J. wished 10 take this opportunity land he hoped II
would he taken IN good pnri by this House 10 say iva
three words more lie thought he had always thought lac
had always said and accordingly, that the eApcnd
idres OF the navy than they ought 10 be. lie
had no doubt At all that by iudcous system OF admins
iraive economy BY cutting down tearing up by the
Il - of "a We
economy instead OF the extravaganza and nyeterae i'm
rTopretes existing. at least million Of dollars might be
saved Ia ha service; and he said this the authority Of
one o. the most respectable officers Of the navy, who had
been here connected with the Navy Board lie desired
HE gentleman from New Hampshire MIR. Hale.
and 10 all other new economists OF this House who came
here, and Mr.. J. heard them with great peasL.e that
they must begin heTe-hat they must begin ut home. lie
held his hand (which he hnd procured this morning the
amount not OF the expenditures Of tc Navy Department,
bat OF the expenditures Of the Congressional Department
OF the Congress OF the United States and he would tell
them waat they amounted to. Hc spoke ~ the aFI Con
gress which Of course was oil they could &c! al al present
land he said this without reference that Congress
than any other He had it from the proper Department
here that they had fallen little short ot millions Of
dollars That statement he had obtained this morning
short notice and II was probably quite Then
he had mn Estimate which had been prepared IN this House
that exceeded two millions OF dollars. Say about mil
lions were the expenses OF Congress- and while they
bersng the branches. let them endeayor II
they could 10 do something their e&tava
gsncc Let them begin at home He said, give hin, ear
and he would tell them what for that purpose he
nc done ms any body nathis House
adjourn, the Senate concurrng, eay day IN May
iCnes OF 'in April" ''n MaTch."l
IL was in vain contnued Mr. H. for them here and
rail at the various eStravagSnces Of Government while
were more extravecant than any Of them.
In reply, the Reporter supposed, sugs, s,!or
not heard by him, Mr.. l. said lac did not know exactly c
the Conventions at Baltimore As this, real
y quite Indifferent But lhe coninued) ne tina
the greatest extravaganza IN this country this Capitol
lie certain that this the md he Certain
too that proposition reduce the expenditures of th
oher branches OF the public service and especially hat
Of the most important perhaps the important blnci
OF The public service, urgently demanded for ia,
good OF the country proposition for reduction th
department. For one, he whether session
Congress might not, 10y accident other be prefer
mited and yet perhaps the country be destroyed The
came here and sat here The matter luery establish
cd the greater part OF the year. expense OF 80 900 O
To their constituents, and spent good portion Of tho tint
IA cutting down, in di-mOunIng regiment Of drtguon
perhaps During the last Congress they had dismissed
he was not msken, Of the pages some of the Su1r
dinute officers Of the House. aud had true by SOM
forcibe application, ondeuvofcd check of the rN
ravagances in tic army and navy. iir. /. himself ha
been the very humble instrument ~ put cur
upon the only department he familiar wii-ile Judi
cia dop1umeni-whcl had grown up within MS service o.
member Of this House from 900 per year i75 OOo
We' alter, at the last two sessions Of the last Congress
that sum had been reduced he found IN the
appropriations laid upon eir tables yesterday the
there again exactly had been before h had doubt
not plftico-every body knew thut 90 one period tr
finances OF France had been firmed was caled1-
ne had no doubt at all that they could get Fix light ca
provide the expenditure uf this Government aud lni
them 70 one or twOand twenty million dollars, that d. wout
pay oil army aud md ry service required nn,
leave then large fortune the first YEAR I was, therefore
not by cutting down and tearing up hut by sdnuisay,
economy by laying the hand great 'mber Of abuses
land he would answer for II that s respectable friend
him Mr.. Mckay bound doing it, that this Ohjcc
was % be effected. lie trusted the gentleman would
coed IA ~ II ii not done m that way vain {,
attempt IL IN any other.
They might stop the Home Squadron this year, or die
mount regiment Of cavalry year; but this
rxtto nothing A. long this Capitol particularly
beginuihg here did the public expenditures were ino
than douled long us ouriprcisa a. ilb ishucn c ,r
ogn missions and oil these things although ct au ninoui.
not very great doubled too; long the tnto
ungs was such as had appeared the last Congress when
IN ansWoT 90 resolution aimed 1T highly distinguished au
mertorous officer Of the army receiving extra pay BOZ
Nndcauon wis The fact that ui the other officers
my had extra pay too long the fact that uoar
tvoIy huron bod hcInrm-u.n DIV uL