Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1843-12-09

yaet mode md he thou sht improper one-one thar
was resortel TO- under any rule oil thus Rouse o'
law Of the land, but under usage, as ne u ~ oee"
formed not invarlabe-under usage, SUBJECT 10 IRE.
cneot and numerous EXCEPT ons; butt never h.iess,
was usage not established or recognised oy any ruie "
law IL wasihs: that 1t a proposition was 'haae' "'
matter hat il vas, and on taat the yeas anu h'y
nken eycrv thing connected with It, oil line docu-
mems manuscript, &c might be spread out at large
on The Joprual IL was obvious that vote OF MS
House with the yeas ard nays, did not rr from one
without, The decision YVES the same IN ooth cases
hut this was he usage when the yeas and nays were
caled but ia this case the yeas and mas were not
cal d.
The gentleman from North Carolina said that each
House was directed .o keep Journal That was truf
but was tina, House which was not ofgan'zso! u
was no, tins hall that const tted Tue Honse u was not
.besa seats which constituted the House were they
House Yesterday until they had taken the OATH under
The sanction Of winch the gentleman from North caro-
lima made his appeal: True they were here but they
wartd the orran,zation which alone const tued the
House The yeas and nays could no, DC called untii
the organizations -. ,
These were the only two modes in which the paper
copld have been spread upon the Journal 1t he had
succeeded in showing that the paper could not nave
been spread upon the journal YESTERDAY, taen every
man could see that there was no error III The journal
WHY then The pretext that il not right: IL was
ho,ed thai The yeas and nays might be called and
that THROUGH this indirect mode the paper msht De &C
upon the Journal, which could not have got upon .
Yesterday Il was true The Constitution required eacf
House to keep Journals of their proceedings oul mol
that which vas not their proceedings
The arrument rested here. Let the JouInai Sc
forth that which The Constitution required and tht
members were sworn TO sustain; but II wond De keep
ing Journal of that, net the proceedings OF the House
if they were spread to-day tia paper on the Jourho
on The ground that it ought TO have been done yeser
day.
Mr.. COBB, Of ,oruia, said he heartily concurret
with portion of the remarks of the GENT iron
North Carolina, (Nlr Rlyner,) and he had hopeo ina
III, gentleman would have confined himself 10 ths
course of argument which lie had laid down iof nun
self and the rest of the House. The gentleman hat
said that the argument premature, SO far as ths
consti;utionay of the act or the soundness OF Inc a
rumen, was concerned. He agreed with the gentle
nan in this, and would not be drawn into an a'sumen
on the general question, but he would now give 10 gen
emen assurance that every menus so lar as ne wa
concerned should be given Of fair, full, and deliberate
disc usson of this que ST on For h'mse he could no
cnncede the ground, that those individuals who were
elected TO this House under the general ticket system
were alone interested in this question. III were alike
interested and hence it was, that he hoped that a.!
who desired, would be heard when opportunity pre-
scented
There was but question, as he conceived, now
before the House; that was, whether they would per
init 10 90 upon their journal paper OF whose con
tents they were utterly unacquainted. Gould Inc
Speaker or this House inform him whether or not the
whether the terms of il were courteous TO those
gentlemen to whom ii was opposed: They were mol
Informed, except through the means OF the puolc pa
pers; that he apprehended was not the Information
which would authorize the act on Of this House; but
if that were the proper channel for iniormatIon he
had objections to this paper going upon the journal in
consideration Of the terms in which IT was couchsd-
Were they 10 be tod that there were no means bPlong
ing the majority of this House 10 protect their own
eengs-to protect their Journal but thai motions such
as were now subm tied by The gentleman from ~ FORK
were be made the yeas and nays TO be called upon
them and their journal to be encountered with every
thing and any thing whether respectful and courteous
or not: II The House poweress TO protect itself
the time had arrived when ihey should seize hold o.
and use the means which they had 10 protect thel
rights.
He hoped the amendment of the gentleman from
Virginia would prevail AS to the first part of the re
solution Of the gentleman from New York, which con
tanned true recital Of their proceedings he had no ob
jectous
Mr.. BELSER Of Alabama, called Tor the reading o
the resolution of Mr.. Barnard, and of that portion o
The journal which related 10 it.
THE MESSAGE.
AT this Stage OF the proceedings, Message, II
writing was received from the President of the Untec
States, by the hands Of John Tyler, Esq, his Private
Secretary.
And, by consent, the Message read.
On motion of Mr.. DAVIS OF New York, 10000
extra copies Of the Message and accompanying docu
mens, were ordered TO be prinled-he work TO be
cuted by the Printer hereafter TO be elected by the
House.
And then The House adjourned.
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