The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-05-01

out Of it, and above all came ever great
est tempes-iha oftse European revoluuon-which had
ever leid waste human society. To what was the con-
rast owing was because the Spaniads did not carry
out with them the blessings of free constitution or the
practices or principles Of civil religious liberty and
because North America crowned with all these pc
cal blessings. And il passing cloud has come over
them Ter moment and it is hut for moment, and II
there should seem to BE-, and believe it is only this
blance Of any departure their side and in their
duct from those KIND feelings and strict principles fre
gon and commercial honor and perfect national good faith
which had always distinguished them, have more
doubt han that now stand here addressing your lord
ships that that cloud will pass away and that the Amer
cans will once more and in long space of time feel
proud and feel glorious resuming their sta
ona station worthy their British descent and of their
British kndred-by feeling aud acting they have felt
that stain should be suffered to any part Of
their national honor.-(Cheers)
TREATY OF WASHINGTON the Sd of April a
conversation occurred In the House OF Lords, re-
speeding the last message OF President Tyler on the
subject OF the right of visitation affe cted by the
treaty OF Washington. The Marquis of Lansdowne
remarked upon the difference OF opinion as to the
true construction OF the eighth article OF the treaty.
and requested any information ministers could
afford Lord Aberdeen professed his willingness
to produce whatever papers might be required,
and the motion in which Lord Landsowne had
embodied his request, having been agreed to,
Campbell, while In the act OF expressing his re.
greet at the absence of Lord Brougham whose motion
in appreciation of the conduct of the negotiation
stood for the following evening, was suddenly inter-
rupted by the appearance OF the learned ex chance
Tor. series OF explanations followed, which ended
in the postponement of Lord Broughams motion
until Friday. Lord Aberdeen then expressed his
conviction that although the difference of construc-
ton to which the Presidents message referred re-
lated to very important part of the treaty, it was
apparent than real, that 1t could lead TO no
rious inconvenience, or produce any unpleasant con-
sequences. The truth of this opinion Lord Brough-
am Pledged himself TO demonstrate, and In its cor
rectness Lord Ashburton cOncurred. He had lnqul-
red into this, among other matters which were sub
jecs of complaint during his visit to the u States,
and had heard nothing but expressions OF salts
faction at the explanation given by this country
On the 7th, Lord Brougham rose to bring for
ward his motion for vote OF thanks TO Lord Ash
burton for the ability he had displayed in bringing
the treaty with America to termination, alike
honorable and advantageous to both parties. The
noble Lord detailed at some length the disputes that
had existed between this country and the United
States, up to the period when the present ministry
came into Office. He observed that these disputes
had created great deal of ill blood and i'll feeling
in the minds of the lever classes in America, and
that ill feeling had'been exasperated by the conduct
OF General Cass, upon whom the noble and
learned Lord pronounced most severe condem-
nation, in having pandered to the worst passions
of the lower orders in America, to further Ills own
views upon the presidents chair. He then ptoceed-
ed to point out the advantages which this country
had obtained by the treaty, defended the policy
pursued by Lord Ashburton throughout the affair,
and showed that not only was the case OF the burn
ing OF the Caroline set at rest by It, but, at the re-
quest of the noble plenipotentlary, an act was sub
mltted to, and passed the American Legislature,
which rendered it impossible for such case as that
OF M'Leod ever again TO occur. The noble lord
next referred to the case OF the Creole, which had
been satisfactorily arranged, and had established
the principle, that the moment slave touched
British ground his chains fell oil, and he became
free. He deemed that the right of search had been
given up to that cOuntry-all parties were agreed
upon it in its modified form of right of visit to as
certain if The vessel really belonged to the nation
whose flag she carried. He did not think the bOun-
dairy question would reflect dlshonor upon either
counry-a admitted that 1t was in the nature OF a
compromise, in which concessions were to be made
on both sides They had secured muchbetter line
than had been awarded to them by the King of the
Netherlands and he thought the noble lord was full
Iy entitled to the thanks OF the country for having
brought 1t to satisfactory termination. The Duke
of Cambridge concuned in the motion. He fully
approved OF the treaty, and also of the entire
OF conduct pursued by Lord Asbburon in bringing
the matter to happy termination. The Marquis
OF Lansdowne inquired If the motion was sup
ported by the Govemment.-The Earl of Aberdeen
said the motion had not been brought forward in
connexion with the government, but 1t would GER
tainly receive their suppOrt.-The Marquis OF Lans-
downe said the noble and learned lord might have
spared much OF his eoquence in this case, although
he did net think it would meet the approval of many
noble lords on his side of the house. He wished TO
know why the noble and learned lord had not
brought forward vote oil thanks to Lord Palmers-
ton when he concluded the Belgian treatv, which
had been much vituperated while pending, but
was so Important and advantageous in its results -
tHear) He really did not see what great object
the noble lord had achieved in his settlement OF the
OF the Creole, because the principle therein
cognized had been for long period acted lpon, as
between the slave-holding and free states of Amer
The noble lord then proceeded to point out the
errors IN Lord Ash burtOns negotiations, especially
in his having made all his concessions at starting,
and keeping nothing in reserve. He then referred
to the right OF search question, and concluded that
the message of President TYLER clearly showed the
had NOT hpeO m aat Isf
The noble lord concluded by moving as an amend
me at thai the houseldo adjourn. The Earl Of Aber-
deem had doubt that the thanks OF the house
would be as highly appreciated by Lord Ashburton
as if it had emanated from the government, which
he would observe was quite ready to take upon H.
self all the responsibility of the acts of that noble
lord. He thought the settlement of the question re-
f1ected the highest credit upon Lord Ashburton and
the government would give the motion its ready
and willing support. Lord Campbell could not give
his assent to the motion OF the noble and learned
lord, who had gone far beyond the flight OF his
leader in the other house (Mr. Hume), whose
motion OF a much more clrcumscribed and
| limited character. He contended at some length
| that Lord Ashburton had been completely over
reached by Mr.. Wooster in these negotiations, anC
| had made concessions which involved the rights o
Great Britain, and were calculated to produce the
/ mcst dlsadvantageous political results .-Lord Den
man approved generally OF the treaty, and was gat
that question which had been so long the cause o
disagreement and i'll feeling betwee the two coun
tries had been amlcaby arranged He disapproved
however, of some paris OF it with reference to the
sIavo trade, and did not think the principles fol
which Great Britain had always commended with re
gard TO that question had been sufficiently upheld -
After few words from Lord Carnarvon in support
of the motion, Lord Brougham replied, and the
amendment having been negatlved without dlvl-
sion, the original motion was agreed to, and the
house adjourned.
THE New POSTAL TREATY Your correspondent
informs that the postal treaty between France
and England was signed m l. ,ndon on Monday last
by the Count de ST. Aulalre, the French Ambassa-
dor, and the Earl Of Aberdeen on the part of Eng
land BY this treaty the charge upon letters under
the weight of halt an ounce will be a uniform one
of franc instead of francs the present rate,
TOR those received here from England when not pre-
paid there, or as prepayment from France to Eng
land, and tenpence under similar circumstances in
England, instead of one shilling and eghtpence, as
now charged. The treaty is to come into operation
on the LIST OF June next The negotiations were
conducted in London by M. Dubost, as the repre-
sentative OF M Conte, the Directeur General des
Postes, and by Lord Lowther, the English Postmas.
ter General, and Colonel Maberley, the Secretary
of the Posloffice on the part of England There