The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1843-02-02

passed Yesterday and he said that his object In do
Ing so Was 10 submit the following resolution, n his
motion should prevail, VIZ
Resored, That the bill be rocommitted TO the Com
mttee of Ways and Means, with instructions 10 strike
therefrom every item Of appropriation which can be
dispensed with without immaculate ana deeided detri-
ment TO the service
Mr. THOMPSON remarked that for three several
da,s did the House 20 into committee this bill
and during these three days nearly the entire time Of
the House was taken up in the discussion Of two or
three minor points This bill, he presumed, as
every gentleman knew, contained large
amount of appropriations, something like five
millions of dollars. During the debate, the ques-
ton was asked, but was not answered by the Chair
man of the Committee of Ways and Means, What
was the anticipated revenue Of the coming year I
And he should like the gentleman from New York to
respond TO it
Mr.. FILL MORE replied that the gentleman had
the same information which he had, IN the public
documents and that if he would come to his desk he
would show him what the Administration sand upon
the subject
Mr. THOMPSON resumed and said that, from
the estimates of the Secretary of the Treasury the
revenue would amount to sixteen millions but from
estimates made all sides il could not exceed twelve
millions and il was believed by many that il would
not amount TO more than ten millions. He perceiv-
ed That the Secretary had estimated the sales Of the
public lands at So 700, OO0 but this was entire
mistake, and he did not believe that IN. re than ST.
500, 900 would be realised from that source. There
must, then, be a large deficiency in the Treasury at
the end of the fiscal year, ending the 3Oh of June
lS44-probably amounting TO SS,OOOOO0 II they
had no means of raising the money, what was to be
the policy Of this Government They had failed to
borrow in Europe, and, in consequence, were dis
graced and dishonored abroad.
Mr.. DODGE, of Iowa, suggested to the gentle
to permit the motion TO lie over, as this
of the days assigned for the consideration Of business
relating to the Territories.
Mr.. THOMPSON said that he would consent TO
the suggestion.
Mr.. MASON, of Ohio trusted that the motion
would be acted on that the bill might be sent to
the Senate, and lie hoped that the gentleman would
proceed with his remarks
Mr.. THOMPSON wished TO call the attention of
the House to the fact that if they made appropriations
beyond the OF the Treasury they should look to
the consequences. Last year they passed tariff bill
which Ut was believed by some, would reach twenty
six millions the prospect now was that not more
than ten millions would accrue from the revenue
As yet no proposition had been made to amend the
bill and reduce the duties and he puff, to the House
to say whether they would go forward and make APP
when there were no means proyld TO
meet them. The only way of providing means in
the absence of q reduction Of duties, to borrow
money. And should they not, therefore, strike out
every item of appropriation which could be dispensed
with without detriment to the public service' They
had been borrowing money Tor The last four years,
and il was time they should cease to do The
Secretary of War had his sincere thanks for the re-
auctions which he had made this year. The est-
mates were 81 800 900 less than those OF the last in
of the conclusion of the Florida war,
and other causes. There could, IN his opinion,
be one million cut oil, If the chairman Of
the Committee of Ways and Means would address a
letter to tie Secretary OF War, and ask him TO dis
pense with every appropriation which can be omitted
without detrm INT TO the public service. There
could be but the delay Of a few days.
Mr.. GRANGER remarked that he was in hopes
that this BILL which passed, apparently, harmonious
", would have been permitted TO go to the Senate UNI
disturbed without effort to create, in the entire
body Of the House. impression that the appropria
tons wasteiully extravagant The gentleman
from Miss ssppi had read, not only to the dominant
party of the House, but to his own friends and
TO himself lecture on the passage of the bill and
the extravaganza Of Congress How did the
bill pass Without even call for the yeas and
naysl The gentleman now thought, not Of ,quander
ing the treasure but the credit Of the Government
yet the gentleman yesterday, did not think it worth
while recording his vote against the bill and now,
when this bill should go to the Senate he arose find
fault with something! lie could not suppose that
the speech made FOR political capital at home
far from it, But where was the army required In
the portion of country where he Mr.. CD resided;
Certainly not The army was required Tor the sec
ton from which the gentleman from Mississippi came,
and for the protection OF his frontier Than for
New York or the majority OF States which gentle
men represented on this floor yet after this bill has
been passed to furnish the for the support Of
the army the yeas and nays not having been called,
the gentleman arose to read TO the House a political
lee ure The gentleman was extremely alarmed for
the credit of the Government abroad, and said that
there was not suficency of revenue to support the
Government Now he (Nlr Granger) Was high
protective man. up TO the hub but at the last session
he recorded his vote to tax tea and coffee which
would have put four millions Of dollars into the
Treasury. Did the Tree trade gentleman do as
muchi
Mr. THOMPSON said that he did not vote for
that
MIR GRANGER. The gentleman was opposed 10
liEh protective tariff. The Wings stood in their
place, aud were ready TO take the consequence of
voting tax upon tea and coffee and still the gen.
tleman recorded his vote against IT, and talked about
high protective tariff 1t had better come from
some other quarter.
MIR. THOMPSON desi ed to ask question Did
not the friends Of the tariff law, passed during the
last session, say that it would yield twenty-sx mil
lions, which they considered ample enough for the
support o. the Government
MIR. GRANGER replied. lie believed that il the
riff was left its basis undIsturbed although he
was for putting tax tea and coffee, II would yield
suficiency Of means to cover expenses f they
cut down 10 twenty-five millions. But the gentle
man was alarmed for the credit Of the United States
Government! II had never yet denied its debts, and
he trusted that II would The officers of this
Administration had negotiated the six per cent loan
at par this was not doing rey badly. And from this
tariff, with or without a duty on tea and coffee the
honest debt Of this nation would be paid IL the
debt was not paid they had simple course TO pur-
sue, viz to borrow money; go on, and expend it. II
il was inconvenient TO pay IT by revenue from i'm
ports they had only TO repuh fe. And did not gen.
llemen see the advantages of repudiation' Dad not
GENT men that some oyergrown aristocrst, per-
haps some foreigners could be duced TO invest his
millions, the faith Of the Government and which
could be expended among people II was no
thing but a moral aud equitable mode Of distributing
the money Of the world among the people of the
world Laughter lie could not imagine a more
delightful process. lie was surprised that the
gentleman from Mississippi hesiiated on this qucs-
ton Suppose we borrow a million of dollars,
distribute II, and then repudiate Would IT not meet
with the hearty concur Of every patriot and
well-wisher of his country Renewed laughter ]
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