The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1843-12-22
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
THURSDAY, Dec. 81, ls43.
'rayer by the Rev. Mr.. TlNsIFY

! from serving on the Committee OF Claims.
! The SPEAKER announced that there was not a
quorum voting.
| He again put the question, and he excused
Here several gentlemen again attempted TO present
bills which objected to.
! Mr. BARNARD asked the general consent Of the
| House to present a resolution TO make call upon
| one of the Departments.
| MIR. CAVE JOHNSON objected
Mr.. BARNARD appealed from the decision of the
Chair, and moved suspension of the rules TO enable
him. which was refused.
The CHAIR announced that the appeal of Mr.
WISE, of yesterday, was in order but Mr.. w with
drew it, to prevent consuming the time of the House
The CHAIR then announced the order of the day
PRESENTATION OF PETITIONS.
| THE CHAIR here stated, that he had examined
the rules more infinitely and found from precedence
that petitions in relation 10 Texas Sc did not
within the rules.
MIR. ADAMS inquired of the Chair if it was re-
| ceved'
! The CHAIR answered afirmatively.
! Mr.. WISE made motion to withdraw petition.
| Objection was made.
! Mr. ADAMS inquired Of the Chair what was the
question before the House
The CHAIR said, when petition was presented,
and debate ensued, 1t would lie over and the ques-
ton its reception.
Mr.. ADAMS SAID there were some parts OF the
petition that within the rules while others did
| not, which should be referred to committee
|
insult TO the House, and at the same time II had
been read To this of policy he did solemn
ly protest 1t was against the principles OF all free
governments
Mr. SAUNDERS rose to a question of order and
inquired if the question was not 10 Law upon the abl,
! MIR. ADAMS said, MIR. Speaker Mr.. Speaker !
| Mr.. Speaker !! am | in order'
Mr.. SAUNDERS said he called the gentleman to
order for irrelevancy in debate.
The Gil All decided the debate was irrelevant
Mr.. ADAMS said the gentleman from North
Carolina shifted his ground 10 suit his purpose aud
it appeared him that there was sympathy exist
ing between the SKULL of the gentleman " no had
| appealed and the SKULL Of the Speaker.
Here the SPEAKER, IN the most Indignant manner,
called him to order; which received from every
part Of the House with That's right-thats right
! that's right!nl
Mr.. c. J. lNGERSOLL moved that, to remedy
the difficulty, the House go into Committee of the
Whole, and take up the Dill reiundIng the Inc to Gen.
eral Jackson.
Objected 10.
Here an irregular debate ensued between Mr..
WHIrE, of Ky, and c. iSoERsoLL which The Chair
decided to be out Of order.
MIR DUNCAN rose 10 a point Of order.
The CHI AIR decided that the molion Of the gentle
man from Pennsy lyana, 10 suspend The rules TO be
in order, but ii not Gebateabie.
Mr. DUNCAN said he did not so understand the
subject.
Tie CHAIR decided that the gentleman from
OHIO could not q bate tie question.
Mr. DUNCAN sand ali he wanted to know was,
is not the gentleman irou Massachusetts entitled to
proceed Ia order;
The CHAIR decided that the motion Of Mr. Inger-
soil 10 suspend the rules, Ach requi ed No-tnrds,
1 was IN order
A.r DUNCAN said that Mr.. Adams was on the
floor, he appea ed from the decision Of the Chair
Several members said he was not
Mr. WHITE, Of Kentucky, rose and said that he
thought the gentleman from Massachusetts, shoul he
above 10 proceed in order He said the course Of
MIR lngersoll on this subject was not in the usual
| courtesy which has heretofore characterized him
MIR. lNGtRsOLL here rose and made an expla-
nation. lie SAID he rose asa g peace make - and he
wished to know 1t the gentleman from Massachu-
sets wished TO make explanation
Mr.. w HllE OF Kentucky, continued 10 vndica-
ton OF the rights of M Adams and -tly Oh.
jected 10 motion thus 10 cut hun of 10y moving a
suspen ion Of the rules.
The CHAIR here Explained and said be did not
intend make that DECISION. 1t was simply Il at a.
the gentleman from Massachusetts, was MT on the
Il ioT therefore a motion 10 suspend the rules was
strictly IN order; but il he on the floor at the
time, II was not.
Mr.. IN GERSOLL Withdrew bis motion.
Mr. w al Z, OF Kentucky, moved that the gen.
teman from Massachusetts proceed
Mr. WINTHROP here IoSe, and said that his
colleague had right to proceed without leave
Mr.. HOPKINS rose 10 point Of order.
Mr. WIN fHROP said that be appealed from the
dec sion OF The Chair.
MIR. HOPKINS said that an appeal was not de
bateable
MIR. WINTHROP continued in favor of his posi-
tion
The CHAIR decided that the gentleman from
Massachusetts, could proceed If there was no OBJ
lection.
Mr.. BLACK OF Georgia objected
The question required 4" Shall the gentleman
from Massachusetts be allowed to proceedn
Ii was decided in the affirmative
! Mr.. ADAMS rose and continued, and during his
remarks, which was Of general character, recapit-
ulated what had TRANSFERRED
Mr.. DUNCAN rose TO point Of order
The CHAIR explained satisfactorily
Mr.. ADAMS SAID the reception Of the petition was
the question: and he thought the parts Of tie petition
which did come within the rgles should be received
and referred to their appropriate committees. lie
said he hoped gentlemen would not thus infringe I'D.
on the rights Of their constituents He said that con
structiye insults TO this House beyond the pale
human Imagination. lie did not conceive that q
prayer clothed the language of the petition was ar
insult to the House. lie believed that the petitioner
were pure il their Intentions aud would scorn TO I'M
suit the members OF this House, and that they NIGH
be Of the opinion that the members Of this boz,
were not deeply impressed with the necessity of obey
ing the "LalcS Of God they should be. 1t wa
probable, however, that they aboring unde
high religious excitement, and wished the member
TO partake of those religious feelings consonant will
the Claws or Con" 1t was probable that somt
parts Of the petition was unconstutional-tha par
relating TO the Lar Of God" bit IT was question
which be wished referred to the Judciar,
Committee, and report made upon IFS con
tents-that part embracing this particular subject
OF the whole, tbe Speaker should think proper
Mr. WISE moved TO lay It upon the table.
Mr. ADAMS demanded the yeas and nays
motion made that it be read and the Clerl
was about reading, when
Mr. WISE objected. lie said that 1t had not beer
received by the IL use and that it had Just as vel
call "splrs from the Vastly deep" to undertake L
have read paper which bad not been received b,
the House. The Clerk had 20 business With it in bn
hands, and he did absolutely object TO It's bein.resd
Mr.. BEARDSLEY was In favor Of reading that b.
m gbt vote understandipgy.
4 Mr.. DAVIS, Of Indiana, rose, andnquirod how
tbs question stood