Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1843-12-09

point Of order was ta according the presidents of
this House al the last Congress, in order 10
incorporate The paper referred to the Journal: in
other words, that IT was not in order for the Clerk
while the question before the House was, Shall the
slid pa per be entered the Journal " colllerally or
TO do that which the House had not sub
stantirlly and directly, decided should be done. Mr..
w sud lie not in his seat in the early part of the
day. and he inquired whether The Chair had decided
that point,
The SPEAKER said, that the point of order had no,
been decided to-day in the form in which il was now
presented
Mr. WISE resumed the floor
Mr. WHITE under leave Of NJ. WISE suggested
that the point OF order indicated by Mr. w, could not
now be raised
The SPEAKER in,ima,ed to Mr. Wise that it was
not IN order 81 10 shut questions hch decide
the pending proposltion) BRING The House 10 vote
any other question than the already before il -
The motion to lay the tabl had precedence over all
other propositions but motion 10 adjourn
Mr.. WHITE suggested that the point o! order raised
by The gentleman from Virginia OR Wise) had not
heen directly made, and for obvious reasons. Under
the rules of this House, it the duty of the Speaker
to inspect the journals, and 10 allow nothing be read
at the Clerks desk that, the judgment OF the Speak
er, not part of the proceedings Of thu day To
what other conclusion could gentlemen come but that
the peaker in the discharge Of his duty read the
Journal and permitted this to remain there If
the Speaker, IN the exercise of his Judgment had not
permitted this matter to remain the record, motion
could have been made by member 10 place il there
But the Speaker had suffered ii 10 remain and he MIR
W. submitted that, this state OF things the gentle
mans point of order could not override pending qles.
ton whrch not in itself debatabe.
Mr.. WISE said that, in answer TO the objection of
The gentleman from Kentucky. (Mr. Whi,eD II was
only necessary for him (Mr w TO refer TO the ire
sistble fact. that the House had not yet put on the
straight jacket of the rules of the last Congress The
House had not yet adopted these rules, but stood
the common Parliamen ,ary las.
Mr.. w. proceeded 70 refer to the precedenls on
which he had bps ID his point of order
Mr.. RAYNER called him II order and submitted
to the Chair that the gentleman not in order
debating the question.
The SPEAKER decided that, in The present state Of
the proceedings, debate tins collateral question
raised by The gentleman from Virginia not in or.
der, because the motion 10 lay the table was pend
ing
Mr.. WISE submitted that such motion as 4 mo
ton 10 lay the table pending that II not
order TO make that motion; that there another and
a necessary question preceding that otion.
The SPEAKER oyerruled the point Of order, ard
decided that the motion to lay the table the
pending motion
The question was then taken on laying on the table
the motion Of Mr.. Chappeli 10 the journal of
yesterday, by striking from II the paper referred To- and
the vote stood, ayes 81, noes 81 tie.
The SPEAKER voted in the negative, whereby the
vote Stood Ayes 81, Noes 90.
So the motion of Mr.. Chappell was net laid on the
table.
And the question recurring the point of order
raised by Mr.. Wise, That it in order while the
question pending before the House "Shall the pa
per be entered on the Journal for the Clerk collae
rally incidentally, do that whciI the House had
not directly decided should be DONE Fl. spread the
paper on the journal =
A complicated discussion, involving long references
to peceden and their applicability 10 the present ease,
followed in which Messrs. WISE, BARNARD,
WHITE, (and the files of the Natioral
lntelligencer, introduced by Mr. WISE with relation
10 its report Of kindred question,) participated.
When, the motion Of Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON,
land with view of going into the election of oiicers)
the further consideration Of the subject postponed
until 10
Mr. WISE suggested that the House should
dispose of the subject of the rules the faet vote
which had not yet been taken.
Some conversation followed, but the subject not
taken up.
ELECTION OF CLERK.
Al late hour, motion of Mr.. CAVE JOHN
SON. the House proceeded, rira roce, 10 the election
of n Clerk.
Mr. DAVIS CT la g, nominated Caleb j. McNuy,
Esq of Ohio.
And Mr. VANCE of Ohio, nominated the present
Matthew ST Clair Clarke, Esq
The SPEAKER appointed Messrs. DAVIS Of Indiana,
Vance of Ohio, and Cave Johnson of Tenn, Com
mttee Of Tellers 10 count the votes.
And the members having vet d, the telers declared
the result of The first ballot In lie as follows:
Whole number Of votes, l90-necessary - choice,
Sc.
Orwhch Mr.. McNuliy received l2i.
And Mr. Matthew ST. Clair Clarke CO
So MIR. McNulty, having received Il majority OF oil
the poed, de- Jared be duly elected Clerk
Of this House The following was the vrte:
Ca,ej L. Neutrality-suspicious. Arlington Atkinson, Eesrds
ley Benton 1idlark Ja- Black Jas A. Black Raekwel Boz
Burke, But, Caldwell, Campbell jeremiah l.. Cary Calm A.
A. Chapman Clinton, Ccb Culom DANA Daniel r. d. bav,
J. W. Davis, Dawson, Dean Dillingham; Douglass pfomsoor
DUNLAP FaTre Iifkln. Poster French
Hale lianu HARRISON, lays Henley, Iicrrc Holmes ocs
Hunt - ngcrsoI, ameson G. Johnson A. Ihn>o J. W.
Jones' &. w. Jones, Kennedy Preston, King, kNauick La
nand, Mcconnell Mcdowell, Mckay Matthews Moore MURPHY,
Morris Owen, ra%enrr Pay pe''. F. Potter Pet Pa.d,
Robinson Russell St John. Saunders, Thomas II la
mas Smith, Robert Smith s,ernroi. >tesou John sewar
Sues: Stone Strong Sykes Taylor Thompson TibhatS WI
ier Wentworth, Wheaton, WuI'am- Wilkins, woodward Jos
.VapAfn Gar clars-Mcssrs. Adams, As, Karin
roll, cha2pr, Chiffon, Cnsma, toIame Cransron, Gross,
Garrett Davis, Debey. Pellet, Dckev, Dickinson fish, f
Hardin Harper HUDSON Washington Hunt Joseph r. ngerso
Irwin" 1sss rs',y D. JSnnsS" pans p King Mcsn,a%
ton. PhGnS, Elisha L. Potter Ramsey Charles NJ Reed. kcd
Stewart Stew Mss1 Toma"o ps asn ,e Vance vanmee von
White, Winthrop, Wise, William Wfish-t6
Mr.. McNulty was conducted to the Clerks table by
Matthew St Clair Clarke, Esq and the oath Of Office
was administered by the Speaker.
THE FINE.
Mr. C. J. lNGERSOLL in pursuance Of notice
heretofore given asked and obtained leave to introduce
a bill to refund the fine imposed General Andrew
Jackson.
The bill was rend twice by IL title;
And Mr.. G. J INGERSOLL moved ihl; it tc re
ferrsd to Committee o the Whole House, mad, the
order Of the day for tomorrow, and that it be PRINT
ed.
Mr. WINTHROP. We have rules for reading
or committing bills, or any thing else
Mr. e. lNGERSOLL We have the Parliament
airy law, which is all the rule want. hope
shall! have
The motion Of Mr. /. prevailed ard the bill was
mi'ed accordingly.
Mr. VANCE moved that the House adjourn, which
motion was rejected.
PUBLIC PRINTING.
Mr.. MCKAY, with some remarks in relation 10 the
expenditures this branch ofthe public service, offer
ed the following resolution
Resolod that the House proceed to the election
of Printer Of The House for the 2S,h Congress, whose
compens ilion shall be the tia, all ,~ed TO tie
Printer ofhs House of the 20 Congress, suhjec, to
such alterations may be made The JOINT resolution OF
the Sd of March, 1919, directing the in winch
the of CONGRESS shall be GxInp the