The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-12-29
House OF Representatives.

The House RESOLVES TO elect q nelD POsfnldSteT-dS0
to publish the names of all entitled to re,card for
services in the t,co Wars-Debate and deter
nrinatiom to cut do,On the Home Squadron and
the Navy GemeraNy-First Gun for the Presiden-
tial Election
The Select Committee to consider and report on
all the strange semi abolition petitions has been
made up--Mr. Adams is at the head, with Gid
dings, Garrett Davis, Clingman, Rhett, Gilmer,
and three others on it.
Committees were called for reports.
Mr.. VANCE reported against claim tor a steam
boat lost in the Florida war. He moved to lay ii
on the table.
KENNEDY-Lay what on the table-the steamboat
-Qaughter.)
CAVE JoHNsoN-I object, Sir-0aughter.)
VANcE-It is only an adverse report, Sir-(cry of
Mr. CLINTON sent up resolution to allow the Elk
penditure Committee to send for persons and pa
pers.
ADAMs-Thats a very wide power, Sir; is it for
a special case!
CLlNroN-It is to save expense and time; very
often by having an explanation from person, we
could save days and weeks that would be spent in
searching for papers and in writing out cases.
The resolution was cOncuIrcd in.
Mr. BURKE called up his resolution that the
House so into the election Of Postmaster for the
House on Thursday, the 4th of January, 1874.
HoLMEs-I move to lay that on the table.
TThe Calhoun men are in favor of Mccormick
the present incumbent
JoHNsoN-I demand the previous question.
This was sustained, and the resolution was car
ried by ayes and noes-S to IS.
REVOLUTIONARY AND OTHER CLAIMS.
Mr.. HAMLIN called up his resolution as follows !:
RESOLVED That the Secretary of War be directed to
communicate to the House the names of all persons emit
tied bounty lands in the last who have not obtain
ed their warrants and the Of those who have OBJ
tanned warrants but have neglected to take patents
and also their place of abode and place OF enlistment
CAVE JoHNsoN.-Slr, as said the other day, ]
am opposed to the publication of these names; if il
is done, the spectators all about the country will
go and hunt up persons whose names answer to the
claims and the country will thus be defrauded
Many of the claims now, Sir, have been paid twice
over and this thing has given rise to more fraud
than any thing else IN the country.
HAMIIN.-Sir, 1t Is necessary that these names
should be published, that all may know what claims
they have.
RArHBUN,--I move to lay 1t on the table, sir.
HopKINs.-I demand the yeas and nays on that,
slr---{cres of :" no, no; yes, yes; let's try it,
They not ordered
THoMAssoN, of kentucky Sir, publish these
names and all the creatures that throng around this
city and capitol will be enabled TO defraud the wi
dows and orphans of brave soldiers of the small
pttance due to them. know in that was
published, there were seven claimants to one
claim and he that swore the hardest got it and
then it turned out that he had not the least title to
it, Uaughter)
HALE think there should be no objection to
| those entitled to them.
| SEvKRAL VorCEs.--Oh, yes, certainly certainly
CAVE JoHNsoN-And so you'll enrich the land
SPECTATORS all the western country at the
pense of the soldier or his widow and orphan.
G. j. INGERsoLL.-ls not this whole debate out
of order, sir / call for the orders of the day.
Uaughter)
A MEMBER.-What are the orders of the day 2
G, JoHNsoN-I hope the gentleman.will withdraw
it, sir.
INeERsoLI-U Laughing certainly, sir; /
all. Uaughter)
HAMLIN-Sir, I am opposed to the misery policy
of the gentleman from Tennessee. | hope he'll
withdraw his opposition.
HopKINs-Sir, wish the names published; there
may be spectators on this foor-I will not say who
they are-who can at all times lcok into the records
and get the names OF claimants and use them II
| CAVE JoHNsoN-Sir, no member of Congress has
| a right to examine these records.
HoPKINs-But it has been done, Sir and | wish
to prevent those harples and spectators from plum
dering the widow and orphan any longer, and swal-
lowing up nearly the full amount of their claims
by this monopoly 1t has been the custom of of the
clerks in the Departments to search the records for nor.
nation and then speculate largely in these claims and
tort half the claim for furnishing the necessary ev.
THoMAssoNSir the resolution ought include all the
soldiers and officers Of the revolution who are entitled to
| and offer that amendment
HAMIN-I do not like to accept that rider, which may
ride down my resolution but will vote for it sep.
| arate resolution
| THoMAssoN-No, sir insist. Q.aughter)
c. JoHNsoH-I move to ecr the whole subject to the
Committee on Revolutionary Claims (Ths was lulti.
matey lost)
Mr. DASA-I don't believe the Department has the names
| of half the claimants.
Mr.. DILLrscHAM-Many Of the Clerks in the Depart.
mens after getting all the information necessary about
these claims have found it profitable to resign their
Office and become solicitors to Congress TO urge these
claims They send word to the parties that the
information has been lost and that they only know where
to find it. Uaughter) They then come out with their
terms first they ask b then increase it to Id-and at
last they insist on having half of the whole claim laugh
ter) And this is given and for this they have only to
carry copy ola record from in onetepartment
to another room in another and get the claim and poe
ket half the money. II is time this put stop to- So
long you refuse to publish long will you minister to
| the cup6iity of these men.
Mr.. BowER OF Missouri-Sir have suffered by these
harpies, and so have some of my fellow soldiers who
fought in the last We braved the tempest Of the
battehe hardshps Of the norhwe stern ronterhad to