The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-07-29

TRIAL OF RoaERs.--We give below, abridged and
extracted from the report in the Boston Post, the
remainder of the evidence in the case of Rogers,

~"'"N'SN hohi ehc ItpOIt Ill the DOstOu oSt,
remainder of the evidence in the case of Rogers,
before the Supreme Court
LUcIUs PATTERSON, Waterman at the State prison
was yesterday examined in relation to this His
timony confirmed the previous evidence relation
prisoners expressing approximations OF being killed.
we'd, and carried out OF prison feet foremost &c
EBeNEzER PAYNE, deputy warden, testified that he had
any thing able in the conduct OF Rogers
his conduct about equal to the average he had
been reported for dsorderly conduct showing temper;
nothing specially of him the week previous TO the
murders three days before the murder Mr. Sargent
ported him not being in his right mind; he did not pay
much attention to III the afternoon the 18TH Mr. Crow
ninshied complained that Rogers was Of no usethat he
would get down on his knees and was talking about Mr.
Lncoln's going to punish him; said he was not right
over Rogers; he thea found Mr. Lincoln and told him
what Mr. G. said; Mr. Lincoln thought he was shsnming
ana asked witness what ne ne replied ,hat ne
Crowninsheld and Sargent say he was not rights and
from what they had said ne had formed the same opinions
he told the warden would be well to lash him. the
warden thought was not necessary to lash hmsad so
twice.
Crossexamned-Simu insanity is not unfrequent
in the prison; Clark instance; had such the
day before yesterday; a named Goedridge, but COM
mitted by the name OF Goodcoursge tried TO appear
sane he would not answer the officer and rolled his ey
about; had him locked up in his CELL and he finally con-
fessed that he knew what he was about.
| We extract from the Post the following report of
| the testimony of Doctors Bell and Woodward
Dr. L.V BELL, superintendent of the MIean Asy-
lum Tor the insane; been there near seven Near
thousand cases under my during that timehad been
devoted to the subject for several years before Since Lin
coins death have had five interviews with Rogers. At
each Of the three first visits my interview hour
and half in duratonoher visits less protracted. At
first visit he brought into the passage way front of
his celaf having outcry at the moment his door
| was NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. was general subjects
| Had to suppose he knew mel not intro
duced to him. His answers were correct natural and
| appropriate. His manner was placid and subdued.
question was then put HIM in relation to Mr. Lncons
death. The chaplain and deputy warden were present
He answered in indicating doubt Of that fact
said il it Mr.. Fogg told him was, he supposed he
was dead Hethen passed into train OF strange and in
consistent remarks, rendering it obvious that was
case OF strong real or highly simulated insanity Pre-
vaig topic certain communications arriving at his
ear from other prisoners-whom he called Sam Robinson
John Bray, Cole and Jos. Hutchinson. He did not pre-
tend to have felt thing from themhe delu
sion solely in the belief he had heard their voices
He said he had heard them when going to heat his
iron-again from the top of his CELL He spoke OF these
things OF recent occurrence. He said he sometimes
heard them conversing with each other-at other times
they were addressed to him. He said the warden and
chaplain had placed would place checKerberry in his
food Sometimes the POGO game was to be performed
upon him and that must necessarily result in his death
in - hours He said the voices alleged that this well
known game Auburn! Here the Dr. repeated the check
erberry story then questioned him as to his feel
ngs towards Mr.. Lincoln. He made no direct answer,
but went on about 'the checkerberry" His pulse was
hundred accurately counted-tongue little coated;
body cod-spoke OF his head being in whirL At nv
next interview, Tuesday the 20h, he said he was some
better and had slept that morning. and that he believed
his head was now right He said he was satisfied Mr. Lin
coin was dead for he had seen him. He spoke OF his de-
lusions as things which not realities Once spoke
OF them things which the devil put into his head He
frequently spoke of them as mere imsginngs l asked
some question about the communications which he ina
gned he had held, and he with great volubny,
repeating what he had seen in such manner as to lead
me to think that he still regarded them realities
His pulse on Tuesday at hundred, and small
indicating nervous excitement, rather than fever He
still dscaimed regarding his decisions realities
On the oath of June him again. Of conversation
the the goth; nothing developed; he init
mated that there was danger that he not yet
right in his mind; this after told him who was;
him again in Levere street jail pulse 1905 ordinary
pulse for of his years from 10 to 7b Last interview
did not touch upon the topic of his delusons his pulse
about co. Dr. Rush of opinion that insanity
companed by an accelerated pulse; my own experience
of 100 indicates something decidedly of order in the
animal economy-rapid pulse frequently accompanies
recent insanity.
After some discussion between COUNSEL the court al.
lowed DR.. Bell to answer generally as follows From
what Iobserved in him. and from what heard him say,
Saturday, the best opinion could form that the
symptoms OF mental alienation real and not simula
ted that his insanity Of form and kind not gene
rally understood in the communy that he was affected
with decisions resulting from false at least
one senses There were no symptoms nor appear
apcss which were not natural proper and
that such would be incapable Of enacting such
perfect stimulation. That man Of his intelligence,
limited edscaon and confined in prison since twenty
years old, should be able to conceive and enact such
representation of insanity is to me incredible; if he had
simulated, he would have selected coarser form of in
sany-ether furious mania or gross stupidity From
what have heard here induced to believe that the
anterior to the murder There being but outbreak
attempted outbreak, is acircumstance adverse to the
theory Of stimulation. have many such cases under my
they not well understood out Of hospitals as
ravng, dementa Sc The de'usion Of being pursued by
enemies almost nseparable from false hearing the fear
OF poison common to insane persons.
Cross exsmned-I have seen other forms Of insanity ST.
muated, but this kind. can easily suppose that
may simulate insanity with the intention Of perpera
ting act. have known such case, though
have known simulated to escape punishment after the
act had been committed In reply to question from the
counsel for the defence Dr. Bell said he expected to find
Rogers feigning insanity.
DR.. sAMUnL B. WOODWARD Superintendent of the In.
rlcAn~
had heard he should suppose the prisoners mind
sound should think him under delusion account
which il almost impossible to simulate. Ihave had
ny Of this deuon of false hearing out of the 200
fusion. There in most of the tendency to out.
rage Never knew such case to be feigned All the |
feigned cases have seen have been either d. mened
violent excitement and they generally easily detect
ed persons accustomed to seeing insane persons The
unessness OF Rogers the day Of homicide very
with the deuson which supposed had exist
ed in his mind THE doctor here referred to several
under his charged In Rogers's case should
think there had been undue excitement for
the want of sleep symptom Of it. rapid pulse
would be symptom, but not conclusive criterion OF it.
self In reply to the Chief Justice and in reference to
the testimony of Mr.. Crownnsheld the doctor said IL
common for insone persons to have an impression
that they to be injured Fearfuness and appreheu
symptoms Of the disorder attended TO the evil
dence Of Mr. Braman all the circumstances OF that day
impressed me as consistent with the idea OF insanity
The desire for asevere punishment instead Of the appre
hended trouble natural
Cross e1 elimination Such patients generally have |
when not under the excitement abstract notions OF right
and wrong Patients generally hear the supposed voices
most in the night that they are most liable TO the deu
son when they most distracted from other inuen-
Thinks il Rogers had undertaken TO carry out in
sanity he would have continued il longer DR.. Wood
ward agreed with Dr. Bell in all his views generally
the particular form OF insanity which it is supposed Ro
gers Iabored under-to wit, the hearing of voices.
With Dr. Wood ward, the counsel for the prisoner an.
nounced the evidence for the defence TO be closed.
Mr. PARKER called NArHsNIE CooLrpGE, the jai |
lor no testified that Rogers brought to the Jail
the 9th OF June and he had not any marks Of nsan
iy in him.
Isaac N. COOLIDGE, turnkey of the jail, testified that
when Rogers first the Jail spoke about the pc
game, which had happened to him in Charlesown:-
Saw him three times day-he did not appear to be IN
sane.
The evidence here announced to be closed on both
sides.
In the afternoon Mr. Bgelow entered upon the closing
argument for the Defence in very impressive manner
Aer Mr. Parker. county attorney had closed his argu