The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-02-26

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The Court convened at theususl hour, all the members
being present except Capt. Smith
The journal was read and the boy who under
nation the day previous, recalled.
Mr.. MoRR into Court and took his seat at table
near the Judge Advocate.
JONAS d. HuNrER questioned by the Judge Advocate.
Q-who was with Cromwell when Spencer gave him
the hquor2
the decks at that hour ofthe morning .
A-Generally at that time.
Odd Of them speak of Mr. Spencer being drunk
at that early hour of the morning
Q-when did you FIRST tell of this and to whom7
AItodh MIR. Gsnsevoort whenI got in the ward
Q-Dia you tell Of to the Court of Enquiry
A-No, was not asked.
About About what time was it that you told of it,
About two weeks after got home.
V,Wei had you read the Captains narrative at that
Capt MsKrrrr said he iid not publish any ma rrative
until after the Court Of Enquiry had set.
Overs ysu by when Cromwell was executed
A-Yes, was nearly.
Dwell tell us what he said.
A-Why, he told Lieut. Gansevoort to tell his wife that
QWhen did you first tell Of the conversation you had
with Mr. Spencer and Cromwell of the somers making
good piraticsl vessel, and of the launch being thrown
1.-Two or three day. age, sir.
Q-Why did you not tell Of this conversation before the
Al did not think oft.
Q.What time OF day did the you speak
About 10 o'clock A: NJ near the fore hatch.
Q-Who were present.
A-Nobody that took notice Of
Q-Wss any body present when Cromwell wished the
yards. braces, &C. in hell7
A-Nobody was by, a. saw.
Odd you take particular notice that nobody by3
Ayes, SIR
Q-why did you take such particular notiee7
Al don't know, except that did so.
Q-When did first tell of the cursing of the yards
A-To MIR. 0ansevoort, in the ward room.
Ibid Cromwell appear to be quite mad when he was
Ayes, sir. He did seem to move his body about
more than was common with him.
GLOW did you Judge he was quite mad1
A-By the way he spoke-the tone of his voice
BY Capt OoDEN-H the order itself which seemed
to make Cromwell angry did not notice that he in
Q-whst was Mr.. spencers manner when he said
"Dont say that. Wen have fun Of her ye7'
Q-Do you remember when the rush aft took place. at
the evening Of the accident to the masi If So where
Al lying down the forecaste. Five or six were
lying down. aud the biggest part OF the crew stand
ing about Cromwell Was there; he ouished his coli and
told the TO aft and take hold of the topgaant
ropes The men and boys then went aft with great deal
Q-was there any scrambling and pushing to get out
OF the way OF the COLT
A-Yes, a good deal.
Odd you hear what Lieut. Gansevoort saidf
o-Did you hear What Mr.. Rogers said'
GLOW far were you from the truck when the men
were about to be hung2
A-About four feet.
Odd you hear the order to stand by-fre'
Ayes, Ibid. The Commander gave it.
Q,How was Spencer brought to the gangway7 who
AIR. ansevoort, I think.
Q-Were tAs eetirons MrSpencer az he was brought
torUard'
A-Yes SIR
o-Dd not thi: make them hoS1ls ter.1srd slowlya
Ayes, sir-they had to about Is IL feet, the
place Of execution.
QAtsr the execution. did you see that the remaining
pr soners had water to wash With
Ayes sir, and clean clothes
Did you before the execution but while Mr.. spen-
and put on clean clothes'
o-what time OF day did they do i'll
Ain the forenoon
QBefore the execution while they were in irons did
you hear any persons speak about rescuing them1
Q1When Walker was aogged did you hear the com.
mander speech to the IL tell what he said
Ayes. He said that Mr. Spencer had been trying to
Q-woll what did h, say he was going to do with the
Al did not hear him say any thing.
to the U. S. to be tried
A-Not that remember.
QWas you deck when the topgallaAt mast was car.
ried away
A-No, sir.
Odd you hear Lieut. Gsnsevoor talking to the petty
ofhc .rs As to Cromw ellis innocence7
Here the knife Of Williams was produced and identified
by the witness as the one he told not touch.l
By Capt McKErzIE-Do you distinctly remember whe.
Their prisoners shifted themselves in the morning or
whetherFhey were washed, shaved and combed by the
A-They were washed and shaved by the ships bar.
ber
Q-when Cromwell said he would throw the launch
overheard, did he not say something else about making
her good pirstical vessel
A-No, not that heard
him speak Of cutting overheard the gaards and all the
spare spars and rgging7
-. By Capt ooDEsIYou say that Cromwell went among
the men with his colt to make them go aft had they been
ordered aft before, and did they obey7
A-They had been ordered and did not obey They
went aft stamping their feet
Q.-When the men went at did they laugh and make
noise
CHAD you heard them make similar noise be-
Al don't know that ever had.
Q-Who did give that knife to Wilson.
A-NlcKinley.
QH.d you not heard long before the arrest. that
ser Heiskel bought that knife and gave to Mckinley
o-.where abouts in the shop was Wilson when he
had this talk with you about the knife
A-On the quarter deck.
Q-Was he not using the knife mendng sas7
Another question put about knife when the Pre-
siden insisted that dirk and ought styled
questions and lound that he had called it a knife.
Q-At the time Of this talk about the dirA, where
Al took of the sail bag; Wilson took it away
from me and laid it alongside ofhim.
YMDia he look at you Usry fierce when he told you he
Ale did not say he would cut my throat, but would
cut my throat.
Q-Did you leave his bag alone then
Ayes, sir.
Q-How far was Spencer from Wilson then
A-Abou four FIVE feet he seemed angry with me
fer taking his knife after he had sharpening Of it,
Odd Wilson speak loud enough for Spencer to
heart
Ayes, sir.
Q-Who was Mr. spencer's guard them
A-Sergeant Carly.
Q-Where about he stationed?
A-On the starboard side ofthe quarter deck.
Q-How long wa this after the arrest of Spencer
A-Thc next morning. between 10 and III o'clock !
knew II because belonged to the sail makers gang and
used to work with him about that the day Spley
and Stremmes, and Thomas Bowen used to work with |
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