The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-09-07
MN YORK HERALD.
Nem.York. Thur.day, September =. Ists.


tenders (Amercs) Bill. The debate was origrna'
ted by the presentation Of petition from the Anti
Slavery Society of Plymouth, PRAYING that exP,ess
provision should be made ia the bill, that fugitive
slaves taSen for alleged criminal offer ces, should
not be ain subjected 10 slavery. The At o'ney
General Iook The ground tina, the tendency Of he
proposed alteration in the bill, would be exempt
fugitive slaves altogether from tue opera ion of This
law. II could not be supposed he commended, that
slave, merely because he slave, should pes
an immunity which did moi belong 10 u free.
man. As TO the general views of the Government
on the subject he referred those expressed in the
case of the Creole-thst when escaped slav s
were, as such, demanded as criminal b.
iects to the American law. their liberty was to be
protected, aud they could not be- gwen ~. The
learned Gentlemen proceeded 10 sey;-
With respec; 10 any thing further ii wou'd BE- qu'e
usworhy this great country 20 entertain any srsik OF
jsl,1sy OF nation with which sh hid jus, erei into
reay He did not hesitate tn ,ha shou ID snrink
from our DUTY we failed to trs slaves
readily as freemen AS TO The Ting of horses or
bosts Tor the purpose OF aiding the escape OF slave
there could be no doubt that an act was 10 be-
in no respect treaiei m sn act o, theft there
pre,euce for dealing with il as a IN, II, Raw
the offence Of stealing not oae on a..ourt q,
which any foreign state could csi the Tug INV
slave. NO crimes were Recognized in tue treaty nos
under consideration excepting rauraer, assault With
tent to Kill, piracy, arson, robbery, o. irgsry. The
the opinion OF her jesys government the
slave TO take with him whatever c-.eu at 70 sil
MS hight He was authorised to say that h-y entertain
ed opinion adverse the apnropri ron f property
for such purpose such khoul DE- con ID
cred 20 constitute an offence was quite uu that the
provisions OF the treaty might be perverted and thai
yeJury might be resorted for that purpose Such
thing was possible but did there such
te prcnah,iity Of It's occurring would justify this
thy II saying to the American people they
worthy OF being admitted evidence Witnesses
That they were not to I've we'd their oaths Ii
could no longer hod ia erconrse with them allies
friends. 1t IS said tbL! il slave committed the crime
OF arson the rn7ishnent dcath bur thst freeman
guilty Of tbat CRIME con onl be prnsted it'll
utpt Now, right hon gentlemen @, post, Incurred
it slave were tak No ;bs,erd Win assn wss ne IN
Or punished slave neeu am To "A he al MA
reply that we had nothing TO do Wi th QUESTION OF has
slavery or ms iret dom II charge mace respsc
ing any oil the cihd crimes slave or no, ssve ne
ought at once to be delivered butnot oherwise He
confessed that he did not see how the qn'so o
or no slavery could form any element ilq iiry.
IN the side ot the petitions it was urg I'd b. Mt
Macauley aud others that there eie iusupcrabl,
difficulties in the of carrying The bill iut,o ore
ration; between the northern States and Gre AZ Rr.
tam he considered that there would be no o ,!IicuIy;
Dai here was snch fundamental Offence IN tn,
laws, n1nners, habits and psases OF the southern
STATES. mat treaty with ,hSn WAS our OF "a. CUES
ZION O1e OF The Speakers, Mr. Donconibr under
took ID lnsinuaie thar the gcvrnnenG Of .nis coun
ny was lDs!ncere ia their proiesssd tnueaVors 10
suppress The slave trade. For this ne was very
pretiiiy chas,isedh by Sin Robert Peel. lie .einarked
that he Was IN possession OF the inst cons issued
~ the Governnent OF the United States 10 the off
GERS IN command If their quadron, fitted out under
The eighth article o. the treaty and he felt fully JUS
theo In cHlrfc'er'2ins gu, impulations on their
honesty and SINCERITY as being most incorrec, and
uaust.
were ofcourse fully prepared for all this or
position on the part OF the ultra abolition party in
England Butw really did not expect that they
would have exhibited such weakness as was devel
oped Ia this debate. Had their proposed clause
been inserted, most agreeable nvitato On would
have been extended to all the slaves to commlt
crime The only just and satisfactory principle OF
which the treaty had been curiird out DIS fax as re-
spects the delveraRce OF fug lives 10y DO h govern
ments, is that which the British ministry have
adopted And that it is all important to the ends OF
justice and the peace and good order o! both cou.
tres, that all arrangement Oft kind should be
made on liberal and equitable principles, we need
not say. The immense facilities Afford d /, crimi.
mails In escaping from the one country To The other
render this matter ofvery great Interest ard Ms NJ
cases of extreme delicacy nu-, % ssaliIy arise
The only proper basis of all these International rig
uatlons, is the simple principle she surrender ait
ugInves, and only they charged with crimes equal
ly coglizabe, and in some Gesn'e .q,al, run-
lshabie an both countries +" Adherence u this a.
teetually avoids difficulty and collision.
The SYRACUSE CONVENTION AND rus Dsrser
System The opinion winch we sc..e time since
{ xp.'ssed, has been confirmed by the letter OF cur
Correspondent, who is now a, syracuse iu,ermin
Cling with the Delegates from all rts Of the State,
and we shall coon have the decision Of the Con-
Venuon REJECTING the District System, am
appointing delegates to the National Cow nlion-
delegates, too, the whole Of WON will be the
pledged iriends Of Mir. Van BGrtn. All this W,
anticipated But what will be the course o, ,hos-
Democrats who are In hostility TO Mr. Vdu Bure.
Will they hold district elections aud send lesar,r
u Baltimore TO contest the seats nj The syracuse
Convention appointed memb.ie? Th, FIRE ia ge'-
ting brighter, the water begins to bubble, an ~
shall have an explosion by and hye unless some OF
the steam now being generated, Is let off soon
TnE FiREMEN AID JBsiR RowpYIsM We are
informed that Fire E1gine Company. No. 8. are MT
Inc cupabe persons in the dsgraceiul and outrage
Gus conduct which has characterised many fire
companies OF this city Of late, ard therefore we
gladly do them the justice 10 state that they
are represented to us as q well conducted body o
men, but that In coast gu nee ~ the brutal al as
sassin like conduct OF No SO aud some Others, they
are driven to assume aiti,Dde OF seli-defepce
With all the knowledge we had aca iiied Il The con-
duct OF many OF the lawless vsgabouaJ vino attach
themselves to, and disgrace the companies win
which they are connected, we find tist we knew
but very little OF the truth. Murderoug assaults IRE
made on mea belonging TO other compont~, hea
~ me peaceaole pursuit Of their avocaiions, and
tbreets are openly made TO burn down the houses
Il which the members of oih,C COMPANIES ocea
6 "1aiy meet Il IL no unusual 81: h, 10 see horaes
o noy-, ringing from 10 10 ~ yets of age, armed
at The coners Of our stre with ristols Al CON.
hitting outrases when a:e a disgrace To any fiy-
lz~d commu uitV We hone the M,voy ,vit, ,r,-ua