New-York daily tribune., 1843-01-02
HEs TRIBUNE.
He soMERs MUTINY
Nnval gonr1 OF Enqairy
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| rbs Court mel a llro'clock, pursuant to adj
5r,per,, and the minutes of yesterday were read
If be Judge Advocate.
II lg4rs was recalled .tnd asked by the
i a.asst Whether since the adjournment he had
sasht Of any thing material 10 the case which he
/ 81 emitted in his testimony yesterday.
I Hs said he omitted to mention Yesterday the
4 ssgcore IN Cromwell . treatment of the boys
4 sssn the yesse! drsy gailed from New-York he
4s ysry ,ylenaicai toward The apprentices, having
: coayersation with thero and keeping aloof from
4 I'm altogether; and when called upon to inAct
Sr;sfldent he would strike with all his might, as
i systl il az + easing to him to whip them. He
h ,bSppsd lheh. ard, the same as though they were
Y ainstoad of boys / have frequently heard
n stnander Mackenzie 5dre him fer whipping
gm so bard, and be has oftea ordered hin, TO stop.
III sprevious 70 our arrival at Madeira [ noticed
,,adden change in his manner toward the boys ::
sihen made free with them, and let them talk
b play with him and pull him about. l have
I k,rd Mr. Spencer remark to the crew that Com
sckenzic gave orders to the crew merely 10 see
1 Samwork-tha,the was no necessi,yfor taking in
ai and making sail. And when he gave the to-
seco, Of which spoke yesterday, to the men and
III F9st ''ooit LpdI II SuPL
II gtlet them have it lie could accommodate them
II Cross-eTaminatton.-C Mackenzie
ssrcd to ask the following questions, and was al
aged:
Odd you ever hear Commander Mackenzie
approve Cromwell for cursing the boys?
A-Yes, sir; I have known him several times
end for him aft and reprove him in my presence.
Q-Did you ever see Spencer give money TO
II aserS than Cromwell and Small; and if so TO
|kAom?
Nj have seen him at several times thorw money
ron tho deck-a shilling or so-and tell the boys
srramble for it. can't specify to whom he
i psc it. Though do not know that it would be
/ 4 fany interest 10 The Court, will mentien that
mall and Cromwell have frequently told me of
4 scir having been in slavers
The Court requested Mr.. Wales to conGne him.
s elite what he knew, not to what he had heard
/ The Judge Advocate said he certainly consid-
ysd this evidence.
"a Did you before you replied to Mr.. Spencer's
aechsm in the interview you had with him
anse 10 see whether he was in earnest or not7
I d, did, sir, for some time and found him very
Ssrous indeed. Witness was allowed then TO
saie that Cromwell and Small had frequently told
II flncf having been in slavers. Cromwell said be
II Aa been, taken in slaver carried TO Havana and
l,aafned in the Moro Castle He was there for
@netime md was finally liberated by woman
Elo had considerable influence with the Governor
htithe lslsud. He did not specify what kind Of
tressel be III as taken sy.
G. VIII you from recollection repeat the oath
administered to you by Spencer!
1 II Il l can only remember that he said was
gtogeveal any thing that he should tell lne-"So
\ I spme God" He invoked the name of God
i tfQ. What was the state of the crew as to good
! aaduct and subordination between New York and
4 shdeia when. outws,-l bound, and what was it
& Stewards
1 4. Between Ncw-York and Madeira it was very
4 nod indeed; but after we left Madeira for Santa
4 tmz 1t could be seen that dissatisfaction aris
y, and it continued to increase during the whole
siefyal up to the execution OF tie men. noticed
fchsase instantly after that Those who had
zen the most surly Immediately turned about
q q. Mas there any motive, 50 far as you know,
~ sthis discomfort, arising from the treatment of
VIE crew.
II A think not. The treatment, after leaving
sadera, was the same es it had been before
iae same rules aud regulations were enforced ana
a Y same duties were performed.
D aQ, Did you ever see the paper purporting to be
y lst OF persons engaged in Spencer's plans
& Al laaw it the nigh, it was taken out of his
eksf, Previous to seeing the list, | had noticed
4 ~ most ST those who we're found to be on the
sswere disordcrly and disobedient before tho mu-
~ broke out; and had brought up one or two
Il s'aem for it, At that time the Master-at Arms
rs sick, and attended TO his duties and had
caarse of the berth.decl.
Y. How soon after your interview with MIR.
Ssacer did you understand the nutiny was to
iase effect
q 4 fanderstood that it acas tobe rery shortly;
q siorc oar GrYiual at 81. Thomas.
4 ~. Did; Cromwell tell you at what time he had
zen IN slaver2
a lie Gid nor, but enly that he had been in one
Mhaa been taken.
Inc testimony was then read over and Mr.,
saes was dismissed.
~ Lieut.. GuERT GANsEvooRT called aud sworn
a was First Lieutenant on boacd the brig Somers.
slfre we're on board the following ot,iccrs-twelvo
4 number, viz: Commander MAcKENzIE, First
eas, Gansevocrt, Dir. Lincock, Purser Heiskel
nagg Master Perry, Midshipmen Rogers, Thomp-
ssss, tisses De Long, Tiilolson, Spencer and Mr.
ssrr ", Ferry who did Midshipraan's duty.
= sailed from Ncw-York ON the 18th of Sept.
sriiSed al Madeira-I do not clearly re,nem-
sfat what date, but about the 5ih of October |
s'sese. first heard of tho a,utiny on the Goth OF
A;s'stnnsr and Mr. Spencer was iroued on the eve
a as OF the same day-at about sundewn. Crom-
@ =, and Small We're arrested on tke next day--the
,s ssa. believe, they were all executed on the
.ss@ December ne arrircd az 81. Thomas,
sstas Oh OF Deeembe,-I tsiak, though an,
~ possttre. lCom,nander Mackenzie said
~ ,. vas a mistake, and lhe Judge Advocate
- 40 40 only wished for general da,es.] In the
"a sssinss at abeu, 10 o'cicc)s / me, Mr. Wales at
Il soss-haIch was ts!d BY himthas the Purser
ssshed to see me. | weRt dnsn to The ward-roon
ac feasd Mr. Heiskell. He asked me If was
ssse tsas plot existed on beard to take the ves-
81 oat,ef the hands OF her eiIcers aud murder
To sil3 I,old him that YEAS notaware of any
ssg u the kind. He then gave TO me the iafor.