The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1843-09-25

paper of yesterday, is thus reported IN the Lon
don Chronicle of August 10
Lord Brougham said that he wished to obtain some
Information relative 10 state of great interest al the
present time, namely, Texas. That country was In
state of independence de tacto but its independence
had never been acknowledged by Mexico, the state
from which it torn by the events OF the revoiu'
ton He aware that its independence had been
so far acknowledged by this country, that we mad a
treaty with It, The Importance OF Texas couo not
be moderated, Ii country OF the greatest ca
liabilities, md in extent fully large as France
1t possessed soil of the finest and most fertile char
acter, and it capable Of producing nearly all tro-
pcal produce, and its climate was of most heaithy
character. 1t had access TO the Gull OF Mexico,
through the river M ssissppi, with which 1t commu-
ncated by means of the Red river
The population Of the country said to exceed
24O 900, but he had been assured by gentleman VINO
C ime from that country, and who was a member OF
the profession az HIMSELF that the whole popu-
laton. free and slaves, white and coored, did NOT eX-
coed 100, 900 but he grieved to learn than mot
less than onefourth of the population 25
sons, were in state of slavery This point led him
to the foundation Of the question which he wished to
put to his noble friend There was very little or no
Slave trade carried on with Texas from Africa d.
rect!y bat large number of slaves constantly
being sent overland TO that country. Although the
major part Of the land in Texas well adapted
for white labor, and therefore for free cultivation,
still the people of that country, by strange in
1atu1tlOn, or by some lnOrOlnate love Oh immaculate
gain, preferred slave labor to free labor.
AS all access to the African slave market shut
out to Them their market for slaves the United
States from whence they obtained large supply OF
negro slaves The markets from whence they OBJ
tanned their supply of slaves Georgia, the Caro-
lnas, and Virginia. which States constantly sent their
surplus slave population, which would otherwise be
burden to them, to the Texan market. No doubt it
true as had been stated that they treated their
slaves tolerably WE'LL because they knew that it was
for their interest to them, as they had such
profitable market for them in Texas. This made him
rresistbly anxious for the abolition of slavery in
Texas for if it were abolished there not only would
that country be cultivated by free and white labor,
but it would put stop to the habit Of breeding slaves
for the Texan market
The consequence would be- that they would solve
this great question in the history of the United States
for it must ultimately end in the abolition Of slavery
in America He, therefore, looked forward most
anxousy to the abolition of slavery in Texas, as he
was convinced that it would ultimately end in the
abolition of slavery throughout the whole of America
lie knew that the Texans would do much regard
ed the abolition of slavery, if Mexico could be in
duced TO recognize their independence. IT, therefore,
by our good Offices, could get the Mexican gov
eminent to acknowledge the independence of Texas,
he would suggest hope that it might terminate in
the abolition of slavery in Texas, and ultimately the
whole of the southern States of America.
The abolition of slavery in Texas must put an end
to one Of the most eXecrable crimes-for he would
not designate III Dy Inc HONORABLE name Oh tTallc-
that could disgrace people, namely the rearing and
breeding of slaves, the being engaged in the sale
of our eow-crealures. He, therefore, hoped that
his noble friend would have difficulty in letting
him know whether he could give any information as
to the state Of negotiations this subject, to
the nature of the instructions that had been given to
minister in that country. If the production oil
such documents the furnishing such inform tton
was not suitable at the present moment he would
not press his noble friend but he had doubt that
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trusted that the government would not lose any OPP
portunty Of pressing the subject, whenever they
could do so with hope of success
j The Ear Of Aberdeen, in reply, said that he could
state that not only had this country acknowledg d
the independence of Texas, but also that had a
treaty of commerce, and treaty for the abolition of
the slave trade with that power He did not believe
that there any importation of slaves into Texas
by sea, but it true that there was large lmpor
taon of slaves from the United States into that
try. Immediately the negotiations being entered
on with Texas, the utmost endeayors Of this country
used to put end to the war which prevented
the full and entire recognition Of the independence Of
Texas 10y Mexico.
Their endeavors had met with very great difficult
ties and he was unable to say that there i'm
mediate prospect of obtaining the recognition of the
independence Of Texas on the part of Mexico but it
was with great pleasure that he was able to say that
probably the first step TO this had been obtained,
namely, that an armistice had been established be-
tween the TWO powers, ne nOpeu lnat tllS would
lead TO the absolute acknowledgement of the ndepcn-
dence of Texas by Mexico The armstice was an
important step to Obtain and he need hardly say that
every effort the part Of her Msjcstys Government
would cad to that result which was contemplated by
his noble friend.
He was sure that he need hardly say that no one
was anxious than himself to see the abolition of
slavery in Texas and if he could consent to pro-
duce papers give farther information it did not
arise from Indifference, but from quite contrary
reason. In the present state of the negotiations be-
tween the two countries in question, il would not
tribute to the end they had in view he then express
ed any opinion to the state of those negotiations
but he could his noble friend that, by of
urging the negotiations, well as by every other
means in their power, her Majesty's ministers would
press this matter
Lord Brougham observed that nothing could be
more satisfactory than the statement of his BILE
friend, which would be received with Joy 10y all who
were favorable to the object of the antl-sayery
cieties.
THF FIRES IN LONDON.
The fire in Tooley street was first discovered five
minutes before two in the morning, in the warehouses
of Messrs Ward & Co., which were soon enveloped
in flames which spread with immense rapidity. The
engines arrived promptly but there considerable
delay occasoned by the want of an adequate supply
of water for the very large draught made by them
upon the mains in the vicinity
l. AT about half past two the wind, which hitherto
had been calm, increased to a stiff breeze from the
Westward, which occasoned the flames TO commu.
ncate with Toppings wharf, the back Of whose pre-
misses was chiefly composed of wood. This added
fresh fuel TO the work Of destruction; for no sooner
had the woodwork caught fire than the flames, in a
remarkably quick manner, assembled to the roof of St
Olave's church, and the old warehouses adjoining
the latter being chiefly filled with combus,ible mat
ter the utmost CONSERVATION experienced by the
neighborhood.
Watson's telegraph, which stood so conspicuous an
object from London bridge, had also caught IRE, and
in half an hour the whole fell down. The exertions
of the fremen directed to preserve if pos
sible, the venerable fabric of ST Olaves church but
all their efforts useless, for although all their en-
deavors were directed to this object for nearly two
hours, at O'Clock the roof fell in carrying the burn
ing EN- into the interior Of the church. and setting
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