Herald of the times. [volume] (Newport, R.I.) 1830-1846, 1843-01-05

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ould shake hunds with such u poor fellow
as him snt bid him good by. lie then shock
hands with Capt. NJ. very cordially and bid
him farewell.
| I heard Small say MS he looked to the 6ag,
..God bless that flag" lie asked permission
of Capt. n. to address his shipn,aics, which
was readily granted, and he then addressed
ths,D. ] cant reccolrct his woTds, but he
wurned them 10 take example by his fstc.
and said his sentence was right and just, and
Il was right thni he should di~. fis then
said, God bless thai flag" looking up 10 il.
lie then asked Spencer II he wss ready ~
die, saying, al ans" bu, Spencer made no
reply. Spencer had permission Ia give the
order TO FIRE the gun, but he could not give
| II.
Az Spencer was passing 10 The gsngwsy,
I stood BY the truck. and he said To me, {" Mr..
Walrs. ] sincerely hope yon will forgive me
for tampering with yonr fidelity" ] replied
that did, aud hoped God would forgive him.
he then shook my hand. aud bidding mo
farewell, went TO the Rangway, snd ] re-
maincd at my station. had no other cos.
versaiIon with either Of them at that time.
On the Ilth Of November. while At Mrsu.
rsdo. on the con.t Of Airics, heard Sp"oeer
speak against Capt. Mackenzie. We were
going ashore in boat. Mr.. Spencer ~ss
officer Of the boat, and Midshipman Rodgers
wus also in The boat. Tie CAPITA in hsd spo.
ken to him just a. he was going over the
side, about his not being in uniform. and he
cane down the side mu,iering but did not
uDdei eisiand what he wns saying.
When we got about 20 or 30 yards from
the brig Capt. NJ. hailed the boa, and Wked
If we had not the American ensign in the
boat, and Spencer replied they had not got
il, and then said in lower tone. "bs'd be
id If lie was going back 10 get II for tho
ID old humbug-he might 60 10 h-I."--
He continued cursng all the way and tho
boats crew were laughing al II. | think Me-
Kinley was in the boat and Golding also--it
was the second cutler. | think some of,he
mcn were in the boat who were Sl,efwsrds
implicated IN The mutiny.
About two weeks before he made his
plans known To me. und while on the passage
from Mrsurado to 81. Thomas, Spencer had
the watch on deck, md Mr.. Rogers sung out
to let 60 some brace aud Spencer was LM.
ward talking with Cromwell and o,hcrs.---
Cromwell was boatswnin's mate Of the waish
but neither Of them paid any attention to the
order. lie called out think three times.
and then cnme forward aud gu,e the order to
lhe men themselves.
They heard The order MS distinctly ns DID.
Capt. NJ noticed tbis, and sent for Spencer
I" come bti but did not hear what Capt.
NJ. said to him while he was aft 1; aud wbrB
he came forward again. he was mur,erng
curses against The commander. ] asked him
what was The matter, aud he said 'Mhe CAP
tain says don't pay attention TO my duty,
and requests me to poy more auen,l"n herc-
Ga. r.>I 4 4 4 IL.
catch him some of these dark nights on tho
round hoHse and plunge him overheard. II
would be a pleasing task for me 10 do il, and
God ID him III do i, yet"
made pn reply. and he went forward and
CONNIE need talking with the mrp. ] think
there were four or tive OF them together, |
did not report that conversation to any pet
son, ] was not aware that those were mutt
nous expressions there were other diccra
standing by, who must have heard IL too, Lut
! don't know who they we're. Spencer
showed me Il picture ola brig. aud he had it
also IN the wardroop,, where he had drpu,e
wnh the pnrscr, who called the tryssIl the
nainsal. Yhe brig had q black flag at the
penk.
AZ Madeira. while getting under weigh,
heard Cromwell speak against the Captain
Capt. NJ. had spoken about some rigging BE-.
ng out of order and said that he na bpst.
swain ought TO hnye attended TO il. and after
capt. NJ. went ait, he said he didn't care a
i--n about the rigging, md that Capt. NJ.
was deslrous of getting too much work out
u The crew-thai there vas no need of get
ng under weigh that night, nj the same
line wishing The Captain aud The brig fur.
her ~ hell than they were out. All the men
forward heard this.
Some of The officers were forward, but I
loht ihink they heard il, ms they were busy;
o"n after leaving New York. Cr"mwell told
ne lhh Spencer had given him BIS, end THE
10 was giving 10 The Sergeant Of Marines
or Tear he shoulG lose il. lie did not say
WY It was given To him, bui he spoke of Il
- II pretty good present Spencer during
he cruise drew about $l5 or $40 worth Of
ooacc0 aud segars, which lie Gis,ributed
mong The crew, bu, principally among the
"ys. lie would give Cromwell a bunch "r
wo OF segaTs at time ! have also seen him
I'VE sega's 10 Small | have seen him Rivo
money 10 Small at Tenerffc to go ashore
vnh, but don't know how much. There
we're two silver pieces. ! have seen him
I'VE 'obacco TO Van Velson and Green, a
'nund nta time, and also to Scott. uno'her
PPren'Ice. but in smaller quantities. do
o' 'ecollcct any other fnct or circumstance
'hlch can throw any light on the muiny.
Cross 'ramintd, by Commander Mscken.
'e.-I have heard Cromwell speak Of his
me- soon after leaving port, aud Cromwell
'hen he came below began speaking Of
''enls at home, and spoke Of his wife ina
cry light manner for man who had just
cen married.
Capt. NJ. said, he wished this question ask.
not Tor the purpose Of injuring or in any
'"y Affecting Mrs. Cromwell, who he under.
'ood' was very respectable and estimoble
oman, but Ia counteraci the sympathy
h'c'' might he excited by his manner VI
peaklng OF her in his last moments, and to
now MS own venali,y.
spencer spoke to Inc when on the boouns,
Capt. Ms treatment of him. lie said
np'' NJ: wns too particular and proud of his
hc'. can't exactly recollect what il was
spoke about. Spencer said the pistols and
$50 'he muskeis alluded To in the converse.
on on The booms. were loaded I heard
pencer say dead men tell no tales" That
ne ms motto, and he used the words when
peek'ng of scuiillng such vessels ns they
''gh' take after numbering all ON board.
ne sa'd The small Try would cat a consid.
'noie' ana he would make them walk tho