Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-12-27
TwENrY.EIGHTH CONGRESS.
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HOUSE or REPR EsENTATIVEs
TIE CONSTITUTION on, THE UNITED STATES.

20 b. thecsii Of ire statcs fos petitions.
when the Iioase drnc last evening. the business un
dor consisted OF the following point resolution.
Of to Legislature ID the STATE Oi Massachusetts, presented
by M. AusNs;
tuition of the L. = BE- and hereby h recommended TO the
consideration Of Congress b. acted on according to The
fifth article Tho thrd clause OF The second scouon OF me
first arca shall read in the words following Represents
and direct shall BE- appooned among he r'e-
ra Stare winch be included within tins uhon
arcodnx t nper respective numbers Of Tree persons, m
Guiding Indians not taxed Tho actual enumeration shall
be made within years from the date Of the adoption OF
this amendment IN the provided by the Constitution
and within subsequent term OF ten years m such man
ner ~ the Conauss shall by law direct The number Ut
shall cSc-ed Tor thirty thou
ssnd bot each State shall have at least one Representa-
i've.
Rssols,d That he escelcncy the Governor be reques
Ted copy the foregoing resolve. aud the
posed amendmen TO each OF the Senators and members
o House OF Representatives OF this Commonwealth m
the Congress 1t the L. s.
R.sored That ls excellcncy the Governor requested
O the said resolve aud amendment tn the
Executive the United States and OF the several States.
Which resolutions Mr.. Adams had moved To refer Ia
select committee.
Which motion Mr. jameson had moved to amend by sub
shutting for the words 80 select committee the words "thc
Committee oh the Judiciary"
debate had followed, which had taken place not in
accordance wiih the rules or out o order hut I'M
der leave specially granted by the House.
Mr.. DAVIS of New York, rose, claiming to be en-
cd the noor VI the debate still allowed progress
by tho courtesy of the House
Mr. KING desired to be informed whether debate in
orderi Ii not, he objected to ii.
The SPEAKER explained that the whole debate, 80 far
bad irregular, and had been permitted only
by leave OF the House
some conversation followed between Mr. ADAMS and
the SPEAKER, the irst part of which not audible To
the Reporter When Mr. AS voice caught the OF the
Reporter, that gentleman saying that utter the debate
which had taken place yesterday, under the leave granted
several membes he had hoped that similar indulgence
would have been extended him also. But 1t certain
thai the gentleman from New York mir Davis had risen
last evening, and, Mr. 4. understood, addressed the
Chair. The gentleman had again and addressed
the chair and he Mr. Al desired o. remind the House
Of the position in which he had been placed by ndul
gcEcc four five gentlemen yesterday. Reserv.
ing himself the right claim the indulgence, he
perfectly willing that the gentleman from New York
should proceed and indeed Tor his own part he (Mr. A.
would be glad that the indulgence might be extended
every gentleman who desrous avail himself OF
Mr.. KING cellei Mr. Adams again to order.
The SPEAKER said he only listening 10 the X
PLANTATION which the gentleman from Massachusetts Mr..
Adams making
Mr. KING objected; remark ing that in assuming to ss
tain the right OF petition in this House the gentleman
throwing obstacles in WAY He Mr.. H. had in his pos.
session petitions which he had held the
mont OF tho session, but which he had had oppnr
tuniiy present
Mr.. JOSEPH X. NGERsoLL here rose and asked
leave introduce resolution which read for inorma
uon, aud which provided that 50 much OF this day might
be should be apart for the consideration and
discussion OF these resolutions
The SPEAKER. The resolution IN order.
MIR. c. J. INGERSOLL. Except by general consent
Loud objections being made IN various parts OF the Hall,
This resolution received
mp hen presume ami 10 be considered precluded from
replying the remarks OF the several gentlemen who spoke
by leave yesterday when the question pending. had
desired To submit some ohscyatiOns--
Mr.. THOMASSON here rose and moved that the gen.
teman from Massachusetts have leave address the House
this subject.
Mir. HAMl.lN and snqurcd whether the motion Tor
leave dCbatabis'
The SPEAKER said he thought not.
Mr.. KING desired 10 be informed whether the gentle
man could proceed without suspension of the rules and
vote OF two.hirds.
The SPEAKER said the general practice OF the House
had been 10 grant leave IN where leave asked
bat that, Oh ccied 10, suspension ul the rules under
vote OF twohirrs was requisite enable the gentleman
Proceed.
Mr. KING said he oec because ho desired an op.
porlunty To present the petitions IN his possession.
Mr. CAVE JOHNSON inquired what the regular order
OF business VAST
The SPEAKER said i, was the reception OF petitions
Mr.. ADAMS. | have not myself vet got through that
branch OF the business have other petitions de,ro
present
Mr.. KING. Thea present them.
Nr. ADAMS was renia'king that he would not himself
hs suspension OF the rules for the purpose doing that
which he had supposed the House would -
When Mr. CLINGMAN rose and moved that the gentle
man have leave to proceed in has remarks
Mr.. ADAMS I'm eontinuation) understood the gen
ueman tho other aidc Of the House, Mr. KING whose
name do not know charging with arresting the pro-
gress OF petitions here
NJ. KING. Yes, sir do charge IT,
Mr.. ADAMS. shall remove that cause Of complaint
on the part OF the gentlemen, Tar concerned by
acqmeseng IN the objection that has been made my ad
dressing the House. But ask a decision Of the question
pending on the resolutions
The SPEAKER. Leave TO speak can only be obtained
by suspension Of the rules and vote Of wo.,hirds
Mr. ADAMS. We'll, siE, say tIaI wal! not move
suspension IT the rules.
The SPEAKER then stated that the pending questioa on
ihese resolutions was The motion refer them the Com
mee on the judiciary and about put the question:
But Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON rose and said that there
we're several members he understood who wished 10 de-
bate these resolutions in which case submitted they
must lie over day by the rule.
The SPEAKER So decided.
MI BELsER moved tha, the resolutions Le laid on the
table.
Mr. ADAMS interposed, submitting 10 the Speaker that
the resolutions presented yesterday and that therefore
they HAD been laid over one day.
But the SPEAKER declining to give tina, construction
u' rue adheed To las decision that, H debate insist.
ed on, the resolutions 90 over.
Nj ADAMS pressed for decision on the resolutions al
TINS Time. They were, be- said, Democratic re- buttons Of
'e stature OF Massachusetts Tor both c branches which
PH's'n ueW had the Democratic power lie hoped the
question might be taken.
Mr.. C. JOHNSON called Mr. Adam. to order.
Some conversation followed on "a point If order
When Mr. BEISER insisted on tis motion 10 lay the te
solution. on the table aud asked the yeas aud NAYS thereon
Nj DAVIS Of New YORK, here rose aud sud he wished
70 debate the question.
Tho SPEAKER said that the fr,,,, o., las, Oh. ,ci,
tons on the liable the rs, question in order and
that thai motion was not debainbIc.
some further conversation followed, in which Me.srz.
III DSON aud CARROLL pafc pated th. result of which
that
Mr. BELsER Withdrew biz motion O., lay on the table.
lot tg purpose Of enabling his colleague Mr. Adams In
address House.
Wheroupon Mr. DAVIS Of New ork, rose and elsned
The hJuri Inc debate was 90 proceed
l"c SPEAhER said BE- found entry on the Journa!
mat awarded that right to the gentleman There was great
confusion IN the House 81 the time Of ad Ournmcnt ycser.
day mud te Csr had norecocn,ed the gentleman Of that
time as entitled to the floor
Alter brci cOnvCrsaton--
Mr. HUNT Of New Iork asked the yea, and NAYS OF,
'he ino'on 81 Mr. Hudson that the rules boz suspended
winch were ordered; and being tahc as yeas l53 nay
81, twohirds voting in the affirmative the 1ics were
suspended and leave granted Mr. Adams q, address
Oh, House. Wheroupon-
VT ADAMS said that 30 had been BIZ intention nor
was now his desire, tr'spass on the time OF tho House
"' WOMB TINS be III return for the courtesy just extended
h prop1s ton had becs made the resolutions
Toe Legislature OF Massachusetts, presented by him ast
evening o. ho committee on tie Judiciary; 20 such di.p.
tion Of them he should very willingly submit and there
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