Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-05-17
TREATY OF WASHINGTON.
Debate in the House os Lords.

which treaty recently concluded calculated confer
and persuaded. am TINT will be greatly for the good
OF the county should do wrong ii withheld strong
expression OF tbs high appreciation which feel. When
was abroad had good deal to do with boundary treaties
and boundary disputes, and though the affairs which
presided werc small compared with those which the
noble lord has arranged yet well know by experience the
differences which day arising amongst neigh
bours know from experience that nothing I'M
pottant than the choice OF by whom
Ot this nature be carried aud know that II the
ncgouator be capable OF conciaung those with whom
he goes to treat must be hopeless. do say that
Her Malesiy's Government could have made better
choice than in selecting Lord Ashburton No man
better qualified for the undertakings and when look the
position which he occupies when remember his high and
independent character the convinced OF his fit
ness in rcspeet and when remember his age and
the difficult negotiations which he under must say shat the
whole matter does him great credit therefore ielt my
my lords that this was occasion which ought
give silent vote. The noble lord has shown himself
true patriot lie sacrificed domestic comfort, ease, and
pose, in order to be OF his country. lie agreed
perform great laborous and difficult duty which he has
executed WELL and am your ordshps will do him the
nsnee To express by large majority the high which
you entertain OF his great beg pardon for hav
ing uespassed during these few minutes upon your
lordships attention. Hear, hear)
The MARQUIS OF LANSDOWNE-I wish to en-.
que the present motion has been made with tho uppro.
baton OF Her MnJesvs Ministers, and also it has
been made IN connection With them.
The EARL OF ABERDEEN said, that the & government did
not consider the objeconabe-hey gave to il their
cordial concurrence, but twas made in with
them.
The MARQUIS OF LANSDowNE said, he presumed
the house would expect from those who had the misfortune TO
bc under the necessity OF Withholding their consent from
the present motion for grounds of their
opposition. Ii would appear from what occurred that a Tar
smaller exercise OF the OF the noble and learn
cd lord would have been necessary accomplish the object
which he had in vew-namely that OF inducing the Min
strS o the Crown accept the diplomatic homage which
the noble and learned lord was DESTROYS OF paying What
ever might be the result OF the present from the
established practice of Parliament be hoped TINT noble Lords
would not be nattenuye the Inconvenience 10
the future proceedings OF Parliament which such prece
nffNy mil nr.a,, llt-
en that the existing practice with 10 matters of b.
kind had arisen The wisdom of Parliament ALWAYS lief,
1t TO the Ministers OF the Crown determine the cases in
which votes OF thanks ought be proposed In the case
of great military was quite unusual o ,nk hoo
matters OF the hands the Government under whose
directions the operations carried on In case Ik,
the present the objection TO such interference came with m
sOngcrtOrce lie knew of no instance I'm which the h,L
OF Parliament had been proposed upon the conclusion I
treaty II he had the necessary strength and that il
would not DE uespassing long upon the attention of
their lOrhps, he could without encounternr single
cepuon refer them 10 treaty after treaty. negotiated and con
cuded amidst the unqualified appreciation OF both houses of
iaTauent the press aud OF the public without word
being SAID respecunga vote OF thanks Though he should NOT
Through many instances he could from
uoning one or two The hrst which he should advert
was case that bore scter analogy the subject under
their consideration than the second which he propos,d T.,
mention. The people with whom the treaty was conclud
ed wa the me aud the circumstances very widely dis
similar The treaty concluded the close OF the Ane
can war OF independence.
1t was then necessary all sorts Of differences
commercial disputes, quarrels the high seas and all
tie SUBJECTS u contention naturally arising such period
he treaty concluded London IN the year 1895 by
Lord Gcnyile behalf OF Great Britain and by Mr. Ja
on behalf OF the United States Ii embraced articles on
the greatest possible variety of difficult and delicate sub
ects That negotiation and attended with tn,
most signal success, and obtained the unqualified apprba
non OF the country But there such resolutions
proposed I" farmen 10 express their and thankuness
Lord Grenvie, whose he could mention without
sentiments of the deepest respect and admiration res
ted content with the general APPRECIATION the country and
uNn t1HaftDF off ID, IL
which he brought 10 successful negotiation beset
by many difficulties e thought that noble lords would
readily agree with him, that the he had cited bore We
coe analogy 10 the case now under their considerations
The next which he should bore very close ana
ogy also, but close first The treaty 10 which
he was now referring did not follow immediately upon the
close OF the war; but for of which
Lord falmerston was selected of great public diff
hculty for the transactions connected with followed clos
upon the accession Of The dynasty the throne
france The position OF Belgium was at that moment in
situation oieGtcme difficulty and embarrassment; but Lord
Panerston, by OF the bodcst conceptions followed b
results the successful put an end to those deul;e.
The treaty which effected solution of them was nego
uacd by HIM. la the first was impugned IN both
houses OF Parliament, but eventually ITS excellence was nc
knowedged 10y all men, yet there desire expressed
that vote of thanks the noble lord should be
tie would not that the noble and learned mover on the
present occasion was not then esence but he
did exist his present character he then sat upon the
woosack but though he fully sanctioned and approved the
conduct OF those negotiations and though member the
government he never once suggested that the thanks OF
should be 10 the noble lord He
cIou OUT see what has been done-come and rejoice
with us; give your admiration for all that have accom-
pshed Nothing OF that sort thought of all the
present Never had circumstances so fully proved
the value OF treaty happened IN the of the treaty
concluded by Lord PameTston Ii said that il must lead
TO an European warthat he erecting miserable mon
achy winch would not last ten years; eleven years had
passed. away ana the arrangements then made in full
force and all the world acknowledged the ability and wis
uo with which the negotiations conducted; yet who
ever thought Of Parliamentary thanksl He would say
fng -HI..lf
was departure from the established rules of Parliamentary
proceeding. Let noble lords Imagine that such rcs
were destitute OF foundation m common aud wis
uoi lhey might depend upon this, that II such motion
were agreed 10 would hereafter be suggested 10 the
queens Government to JOIN with the Parliament in
giving expression TO sentiments of JOY the result
oi negotiations which, perhaps, after all. afforded
no very Just grounds Of congratulations In the present
whether night or wrong the treaty of
~ might he an embarrassing precedent refer this case
hereafter ~ order TO justify similar vote of thanks for
treaty consisting exclusively of concessions Besides there
were not wanting those in parts of Europe-no
wcIwishors Of Engand-who were watching 10 draw in
ercnces from proceedings such these which would not be
very favorable 10 the interests this country On these
grounds he must confess that impossible for him 10
give ms concurrence TO the motion which his noble and
eathed Trend had submitted To the house. Were their
ordshps 10 sanction such notion II would he thought
pc introducing most announcement practice. fho precc
dent were established he felt convinced that many
years would not case before either the present Govern
mcn or those who might succeed them would deeply re-
grct the circumstance Taking view of the whole facts
'h7tWhlns nv Ulc question n its TelatiOng-hC
dd not see sufficient for the house To ADOPT the mo-
ton ct his noble and learned friend. IL was not his wish
to negative the motiOn-o pass vote OF condemnation up.
on the treaty which the noble lord opposite had brought TO
icrmnuo-bui lac did mott sufficient ground depart
ing I" the usual course, and expressing his APPRECIATION
Dnu Joy ~ the manner suggested by his noble and learned
TREND ~ the motion which had been submitted for their ap.
prevail IL might be supposed II hc O. stop there that
ne was shrinking from declaration Of his opin-
IONS win reference Ia different portions of the treaty
thosc portions which certainly TT subjects for crit
icIsm not for condemnation lie he Marquis Of Lans.
dow) iclt that the bodily ndspositon under which he
was Then suffering rendered him unequal the task Of fol-
lowing his noble and learned friend into all tho
and minute details which he had a1ycrtcd in the course
9I ms speech that night was his ho Marquis Of Lnns-
d""ne wish osato 10 thoir lOdshps what portion Ut the
treaty he approved Of and what portion met his dsnpproba
uon w the irst place he wished address few words
4" her osps with reference TO the particular individual
who had been selected toncgoac the disputed question
between this country and the United States Of America.
TIC le much pleasure nexprcssing his appreciation of the
selection the noble lord opposite had made. Nondiyi.
dunl was probably better acquainted with the details OF the
question than the noble lord who deputed on the part
L ID fNr f.uu III.