The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1843-12-27

entertained unless they were IN earnest IA relation
70 economy-which should not be eyeed at the Az
my or the Navy 10 the present state Of our affairs,
but should be fostercd My friend FROM South
Carolina hlr. Homes) says, and a reduc
ton OF the tariff MIR. lNeERsoLL very playfully
alluded to the Pennsy platform upon which he
had invited his South Carolina friends and had offer
ed them uine and ichiskey-and they had chosen the
,chiskey--whch their fault and not his This
caused some merrlment
Mr.. ADAMS said he was willing to lend all the
aid he could his friend from New Hampshire in tho
way of economy, and also to his friend the peace
kerr" who had said that the army and the navy was
not the place to begin in the way of economy-but
herewith which he did not coincide He was in
favor of beginning with the army and navy, the main
arteries of all the extravaganza with which the Peo
Pile were burdened He said the gentleman from
Pennsy lvania Mr. lngersol said, with his usual cry
Of economy, that it would require nine million OF dol
lars to keep ships ahoat; and, by comparison,
presented to this House last year by the Secretary
of the Navy, it appeared that the British navy ex
ceeded ours eight to one, and recommended gradual
increase to equal ons-haL and the huyt,co millions
proposed would not be enough to accomplish this
magnificent design. He here alluded very sascasl-
cay to remark which fell from Nh. Ing rsoIl
during the last session, in relation TO the burning OF
London by the American navy.
Mr.. lNGERSOLL said the gentleman would re-
collect that what he stated made as an Offset to
the opinion expressed by Mr. Adams that the British
navy would burn NatcheZ.
Mr. A. sad that was an after-thought /; and it ap-
peared to him that this great-to-do was but war
symptom this floor, and that his remarks alluded
to the fact if England should take Cuba.
Mr.. ING ERSOLL inquired if il would not be so
now? The principle was the same, and for which
he would 60 to war.
Mr. A. Yes, sir, so to war; and he presumed the
gentleman would go to war with England aboutTex-
as Sir war with England was at this time above
all Others to be deprecated, and he should oppose all
schemes whatever having that object in view, as he
not disposed to go to war with her upon any
account and what was the use OF the navy afoat in
state Of profound peace Sir it is not here that econo
my must commence, but with the army and navy, and
| thanked the gentleman from New Hampshire Mr.
Hale,) and the gentleman from Tennessee Mr.
| Cave Johnson,) for having moved in this audable
project of economy, and hoped that tiey would adj
here to their principles this subject He said the
last CoDgre S, which the gentleman from PennsyIva-
MA had alluded to- cut down the army from $4,000
men to to 5000; but the report of the Secretary Of
War, Mr. Spencer, recommended an increase of
10000 men and with these facts, he did say that the
last Congress the most economical that had
ever assembled. He hoped the Chairman of the
Committee of Ways and Means, (Mr Mckay and
Mr.. Johnson of tennessee, would stand firm to
their principles and instead of increasing the expen-
ditures the Government, go for reduc ion This
House administrative, but legislative, hence
the responsibility of applying appropriations beonge!
to the Executive and no to Congress. lie said iffs
economy, of which the gentleman from Pennsylvania
had spoken, began here under his auspices, to what
no. not even the ends of candles. He might cut of a
| few quilts, wafers sc and probably an assistant
doorkeeper If committee should be raised for re-
trenchment, and the gentleman from Pennsy lvania
made its chairman his word for il, he would not &C
complish any thing more. He said the President must
| economist, if not pull the purse-strings tight He
had charged any Administration with exrava-
gance-not even MIR. Van Burens; it was not
right-for the remedy was with Congress, which
should cut short the appropriations and he hailed
the resolution of the gentleman from New Hamp hire,
with great pleasure, and should give it his hearty
support He alluded to appropria ton, which
inaudble.
Mr.. INGERSOLL said il was Indian treaty !
Yes, sir, It was appropriation of $lOOCO which
slipped through while be Nh l. was absent, and
this his spirit of reform and economy. This House
should be responsible for its sins, and not for
those of the Executive and all he wanted was the
reduction Of the millions necessary to keep the
navy ahoat He took his seat after having spoken
for an hour
| Mr.. STEENROD moved to lay it upon the table,
! which was decided tn the negative.
| Mr.. HALE wanted to say word, but there was
no quorum f; when he moved that the House djourn.
| And the House adj ourned until tomorrow at IL
o'clock.
| Petitions presented by Mr.. WENTWORTH, of
| Illinois
! Sundry citizens of Boone county Illinois, and the
Territory of w isconsn, praying for mail route from
Belvidere Illinois, Daren, Wisconsin Referred
to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads.
Sundry citizens of Chicago Illinois, for the extern
sion of the United States maritime law over the upper
lakes from Ontario TO Michigan, inclusive. Referred
TO the Committee on the Judiciary.