The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1843-12-19

SON, was read and co0currod in. ar
MIR. DOUGLASS here rose TO offer an amendment
which was decided out Of order.
A. this stage there was an ire debate
Messrs. Thompson, Of Aissis ippi, THoaAssos, and
. BARNARD, Ia relation TO the different subjects en-
} braced in the Presidents Message.
MIR. BARNARD rose to move that every thing
IN relation 10 The navigation of rivers be referred
10 me Committee on Commerce; and in the course
rot his remarks he stated what had been the preyi-
Gus course OF Congress upon this subject; but his
OBJECT was TO prevent any invdious distinction
Whatever IN relation TO the mproy Of the riy-
err the different sections OF the country; he hoped
IN few days TO be enabled 10 present TO the House
report from the Typographical Bureau upon this
subject, which would place the whole matter IN its
proper light lie wanted the Committee Of Ways
and Means to have those subjects which properly be-
long TO II, and the Committee Of Commerce those
which belong 10 il.
Mr.. THOMASSON objected TO receive Mr. Bar.
nard's motion as a modification
Mr. BARNARD moved to amend the amendment
MT WISE said that the amendments embraced
subjects which were not in the Message He con.
sdered The gentleman hypercritica in his objections
TO the Presidents Message He spoke earnestly in
vindlcnton of the Presidents constitutional views
upon this subject lie said the President in his Mes
sage, has not mentioned all the rivers in the West
but simply the Mississippi alone which has ALWAYS
been an exception 10 the other rivers of the country
from It's general character the commerce of the
country lie said the Mississippi river was embraced
IN the sovereign domain of the Unon aud he did not
Wish TO make any invdious distinctions what
ever in favor OF the North, the South or the West
but 10 embra &c every interest Of the country when
ever II was necessary and proper in general point
OF view. Sir, said he, that beautiful valley (the
Missssipp) OF this country which sends eighty mil
hons OF exports abroad is entitled to the grave con-
sideratoD OF this nation, and should not BE- lost sight
of by those who have the true interests OF the country
at heart.
Mr. KENNEDY said he was glad that the Presi.
dent of the United States and gentlemen on this floor
nad discovered that there is such place " the
west" All he had TO say was hands off gentlemen
the West would take care of itself Laughter
lie said he was always afraid to trust himself when
the West was spoken of. He was STRAIGHTFORWARD
himself, and thanked his friend from Virginia Tor his
advice upon strict Construction Of the Const
tuition. lie said his friend from New York
Brown, seemed to sheer at the West What compari
son docs The Hudson make with the great Misss
sppi' 1t was a small branch in comparison with the
majestic Mississippi My friend near me says il is
little brackish. The West was of itself an empire
and was now able 10 take care Of itself, and
he warned the members of the Mssississippi valley
not to be deceived by these ''rders" referring to
these rivers. He said, for himself he was not to be
entrappcd INTO the support Of the famous exploded
"American System" lie said the West was not to
be caught by such stuff they do not believe in the
doctrines entertained by the advocates of that sy STEM
So far as he vas concerned he did not care to what
committee it was referred. He indicated the Presi-
MIR. HOLMES, Of South Carolina rose and in one
OF the most eloquent strains, complimen,ed Mr.. Ken
nedy for the sentiments he had uttered He said to
the West wake up! and control that mother which
had usurped her right. lie said the great West by
its industry would raise more than would support the
whole face Of the earth. He earnest impressed up
on the West the necessity to reject this incubus upon
their industiy-the restrictive sysembut to assert
and maintain an equal interest in every thing that af
fleets the rights OF the whole country. He continued
Government in looking to the defence Of the coun-
try. He said he was willing to go with the West to
put an end to this neiarous system, and bring the
Government to a r.yenue standard.
A voice in sleepy hollow, which was naudbIe.l
Mr.. WILKINS said the President right in
turning his back upon the Hudson He said there
not words in the English language to express the diff
ference between the Importance of these two streams
to the Government in National point of view. He
pointed Out in glowing colors the amounts which had
been expended upon the seaboard in the way of
break-a aters and lort6caons while the great valley
OF theeSlsslssppi had been neglected He here reat
ed an anecdoc Of Gen Jackson, which created some
mermen, but it was inaudible. lie then proceeded
a clear and succinct point out the natu-
raj advantages Of the Mississippi river. Tile here
related aDecdotc between Two Engshmen who
were travelling on the Mississippi One asked the
other what he thought of III The other replied tina,
it a very fine river for country lie said
this handsome compliment, considering il
came from Engl,shman. lie hoped the subjects
embraced in the Presidents Message would receive
that consideration to which they entitled.
Mr. BEARDSLEY said he did not the peces-
slty Of referring 10 the Hudson or the Mississippi in
debating this subject lie in favor Of referring the
different subjects TO the Committees to which they
appropriately belonged, and that the object he
believed Of his friend from Virginia (Nlr. Wse).-I
He said the blec, should embrace the whole
try and no, any one particular division of the coun
try, because such a course would be partial in its
character and inyidlous
Mr.. WISE here rose 10 explain. lie said his mo-
ton was TO refer nothing TO the Committee except
what in the Message.
A.r. THOMASSON here rose and explained what
he wished 10 accomplish.
Mr. WISE here made rejondcr in support of his
previous position.
Mr.. BEARDSLEY continued in illustration Of his
views of the whole subject al great length, which
were enforced i'll clear aud concise manner.
Mr.. BEL SER said this subject had nsumed a
great deal of time, and great deal had been said
about the Hudson aud the Mississippi, but he wanted
TO known where the money Is to come from TO carry
out this u agnfcent scheme 1t was 10 create the
for additional taxatoa He said they came
here TO limit taxation not TO enlarge, and he warned
gentlemen of the consequences involved.
Mr.. HARDIN, of ILL.,, inquired what the
question before the House
The CHAIR decided the amendment Of the gentle
man from Kentucky.
Messrs DOUGLASS and McCLERNAND iere
and made the inquiry TO which the Chair
piled that he had previously decided that the amend
ment of Mr.. Thomasson, Of Ky, was in order.
They yielded TO the decision of the Chair.
Mr.. HARDIN, oil H., rose and moved amend
by Offering substitute, which was no. accepted.
Mr. HARDIN spoke at length in support Of his
prupos ton and in favor f the interests of the West
Mr.. BOWL1N of Miss ur, cad, representa-
tive from the gieal Wc.t-lor she was truly great
and he in the n m of the West thanked gentlemen
for tie Mud feel ms hey have evirced 10 its favor =
lie gave glowing de cripiion Of she rapid growth
Of the city of ST. Louis lie said that he objected to
the geographical selection Of the Committee Of Com
merce--the West had nothing TO expect from that
Committee He said he agreed with the explanation
Of the gentleman from Virginia, but his object was
TO bury that system in the tomb Of the "Capulets"