Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-09-04
VOLUME 30. NUMBER IS.

Peaseu 70 eau the ammes OF party aud i'm the next
sentence he that with naiorrv "A we nosse.
we ought TO be able frame our measures before avn
thcn before Parliament insure the eoncprrepc. 81 or
majority There - something curioualy inconsis,.n, in
tins advice. Hear. hear.l We must 6rs, occ,d, -,
the night hon. gentleman, break through the ,r,u.7 IS
party, nnd at the time, consult that marty in ,,;n
our measures so az to secure a majority Hear bc,r
But, again, 10 return tic tariff will again sSe Tho, :,
was measure OF great commercial relaxation Won s,v
a we arc neither 1r the principles OF free nor the
principles OF protection their fullest extent W. rsoly
,hnt we are not and any person who considers calml,
e state OF this county, and takes into account m y,ons
and complex interests, will clearly perceive that earrvng
ou eor the principles Of free trade those of proteeton
!" "ha gentlemen opposite call their legitimate conclusion
ouu De wholly imPracticabe without very material al
ts4uo IN the circumstances of the country Such no
'"s"' NJ ue theoy OF schooboy theme, but would
not oe undertaken by practical man of business who
w'uI ieeI mat the adoption OF a course woud throw
'nv ahrs oi the country into inexticabIe confusion
NthecTs) The noble lord says that our war cry IL
% artFom protection being war cry we have c,rd
out the principle of removing restrictions "a far "a
ou' we 40 with due caution, and yet at the same tme
have carried out the principle greater extent than ,b
ever carried or attempted carry (Cheers II ia imno
able to follow through the variety Of topic. which are IN
uueed INTO question like the present all the speakers
VINO take share in the debate. Every topic ioucbed
upon aud only touched upon for is impossible TO enter
He'py INTO mem all The noble lord in referring 10 do
nestle politics. spoke OF the of Wales of the mining
uet- OF the church OF Ireland aud the church of Scot
7"ai ho' i"io~ MIN through all these but when the
nooie lord Charges the present Government with the or
7ung state OF things IN the church. he il singu,,
'ogeuul OF the fact that when hc himself was Office bo
winch led 10 the
crc s' broke out that he upon principle folded hisarms
ana sat 9gescent, neither saying doing anything Hear
o, ne government do not interfere; then noble
ioH saished but G interfere for the purnoss
oil healing division which does not exist"
Lord PALMERSTON.-No, no; division which
could not be healed ""'S'
Lord STANLEY tho, , d;.;s;. IL,
ht nc heaed and OF keeping the church those who sg
my their determination in it, Hear hear) very deem
" regret the secession im the church of Scotland If We
~ arge number OF able, Pious, and learned minister's
ltiear, hear) think it great misfortune mo, to So
lana only but on account OF the effect has upon the prn
Cpe oi establishments generally. (Iea heaT) But when
the noble lord says that the Governnen Mt M in
proper period, say that the Government felt II their J,,
mol 10 lneTpoSe TO reconcile irreconceabe derences
MOTTO interfere so long the church stood in position in
winch she repudated the authority of the lew Cheor bs
Out as soon the church placed herself in due sbssi
70 e iaW hen' and not till then. the duty of the
10 endeayour by legislative measures TO solve
tie difficulty and heal the dssension which had co lon,
existed IN that church. Hear, hearl And wh,,eyer
the result Of that do NOT regret oi,h
having postponed 1t long did, nor having brougbt
forward at the earliest period il was possibe IN n,L
such an attempt consistent with duty Hear will
not enter INTO the question OF the state of Ireland
question winch has been very fully discussed late de-
bate very studousy abstaned from tai mari in tho
discussion on the subject OF the Arms Bill, and will not
e' upon the discussion OF those clauses which have oc
cupled So long time, will follow hon. gentlemen in
any remedies they proposed the disturbed stat, of
Sad some OF which are about be brought under the
toll consideration Of this house. Having had IN. opporu
niy OF stating the general Of policy which il was
the intention OF the Government pursue former occa
bu Snit.
oil Nahaua IN spite OF America in spite of Aghansan
IN spite OF China, his foreign policy is what the noble lord
peculiarly piques himself upon. lie say-"We admit that
leTe were great difficulties the finances when we left
that tue commercial were very ereo bu, ,v
the noble lord, you have emeded the one nor have
YOU relaxed the other and when we went ON, - - 49,
nooe lOTd ireland tranquil appeared IN no s,,
hear hear and believe the noble lords definition il NOR.
correct now than former occasion But first of all
foreign polcy IS the great thing upon which the noble
oTg ques himself and what result has the noble lord
10 show upon the subject that should lead the Government
TO follow MS oostepsl lie says Iii there were apy QUAR-
rel between two great states OF Europe the first
was w nat IS England going TO dor" and whyl
/ Lord PALMERSTON-On any great event
LORD olANLh An incident perhaps. loud 'front.'
cal cheers aud laughter As wars or rumours of
wars arose IN any quarter Of the GLOBE them said the noble
ordand ne takes peculiar credit to himseffor saving 50
The hTst question asked was WHAT England going to
90 No. not what Is England going 10 do but what Is
Downingsrect going TO do (Laughter9 That ,v.s the
s question: Tor II IS notorious that Downing street or ra
h' me noble lord with whom had the honour OF serving
under Lord Greys government, the prncipe of nan in
eehce whenever anything the prettiest stale in
any qHltteroi the globe, something tGeataugh
erD That was the long as the noble lord was NJ ib
naa o foreign affairs and therefore says the noble lord
the hrst question always what Is England poing IN
do (AIaugh) But you left foreign affairs with Franz,
suppose very satisfactory footing No 80
the noble lord at Is true there was a Ii,,Is 80,
Tary lrutaiiJn-iust the moment everything vyon1
have been right" a laugh Ii may be so. bur
the noble lord must allow 70 doubt whether thar
womb nave been the case, when | see the effect OF
the noble lords policy for some time before Then
Win respect 10 spain. But there again the noble or
spoke OF france France his bugbear-bis tt.
nor Iaughhe Is always suspicious that France il
tearing from jealousy of England Here the nobs l,,J
phed 10 Lord PaimcTstOn's censure on the FOREIGN nol
"i government must however apologize for having
respassed 50 long their hearl and will detai1
the mousse only few minutes longer. The noble lord nj
ways speaks with great candour Of his own noal
icenss hopes, and prospects heat hear and IN the pre
sent session he has kept very baroe ter tor
suTng the votes OF the noble lord. augb1 In the
early part OF the that noble lord told as that # NO.
were not driven out u from any love 10 ma bu
from the extraordinary disrust OF the noble lord ,nJ b
gentlemen on the opposite benches A taught "But
en says the noble .OrS, that was az very early ,er
u the session have had several months eyperienc ,
mat ume-I have rccantcd that opinion and am therefore
40 longer bound what / said" Bur Tonight the nob,
Lord speaks m different tone, awe are UNNECESSARILY
superior 10 you ia argument-n debate Won can't hold
candle TO US. Laughing There has been nothing 81,
eloquent rs the speeches Ut my noble friend on this side and
though our numbers somewhat scanty and We ann,t
nope To Deaf you ia the present session. vet think we ,
'vhNe 10 SOW discussion between your supporer
~ this house by only telling them that if they in,,dc
certain measures, shall have the candid support of gen
uemen on this side OF the house. and do not despar Thar
ny me cnd ci next shall be almost equal 20 Won
IN me lobby lugtter.| and that which
noble lord winds up his Parliamentary campaign 1 an,
sorry tosay anything damp the aspiring hopes or yout
tai lnces OF the noble lords but rumUurs Of discors and
dssenson appear 10 have reached him. and TO have raised
his hopes even 10 their present moderate height an,
unaware o any foundation for such homes N he b,s,
em on discussions m the cabinet am frad cannot hold
out TO hm prospect Of that chance being presented
winch DO told the house, some time ago the country
would have rejected Cheers and 3ugher1 I believe
mat by pursuing straightforward cOursc-'ironical
cheers from the Opposition echoed BY loud Mnistc
RAJ checrl-not 10y pretending believe that the evils
Of the country are nj be rcmedicd by great
capap measures 10 be introduced the case might
be cheers and only intended 90 make a noise for a time
aud never % BE- brought operations; but by steady and
PeTcVenng and assduous attention 70 the interests Of tho