Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-05-29


seemed to have forgotten the concessions made with respect
20 the navigation OF the ST. Lawrence The navigation Of
that river mpeded for considerable distance. BY
" each party had the right % navigate, but happened
That the American side naVgable and the other
and cQucnty the ST Lawrence closed against
British vesse or open only by permission OF the Amer
Now setting the navigation Of the river against
the navigation OF the other, he thought that good
had obtained could be expected lie could
in the opinion that the whole advantage the
side OF the United States On the contrary appeared to
/ him that the concession the side Of the United
States, and the progress that OF Britain. Much blame
had been upon the noble lord Tor Of the Mad
awaska settlement; but he (Nir. Buer) thought had
been laid down n principle that n negotator ought
begin by asking than he intended get Lord Ash
burton had proceeded the award OF the King Of the
Netherlands and wished to gain the Madawaa settlement
which consisted of few scattered houses scattered about
fifty miles along the ST. John; and for the object that about
lOOO VI the people there should be brought within Bri-
tsh territory, the Americans give up the whole
the navigation of the ST John We might be right try
ing TO get much could, but ought be satisfied
with not having sacrificed thing unreasonable by hnv
ing the line OF the ST. John kept, and these
given to the United States Hear, hear. hear Great
blame had been upon Lord Ashburton
what was considered want Of proper tone Of diplomacy
IN his negotiations; But looking the papers which had
been laid before the House he felt consider
that either the interest the honor OF the coun-
try had suffered although the Of Lord Ashburtons
goiatons might not have been diplomatic usually
observed Mr. Webster might. indeed, have some oc.
casons taken advantage of certan slips phraseology
the part OF the noble ord but it appeared him. the
whole that the terms OF the noble lords negotiations
worthy representative OF great knowing
own strength and not seeking accomplish than what
justice and right warranted demand The observations
which he had felt his duty offer the present
had been somewhat long, but he express the
OF his VOTE order that he might defend himself
against the charge OF viewing the of the present Gov
eminent with too much favor But this on
which he hoped every honorable gentleman could be entire
y free from party feeling. The interests Of great
tons involved in the negotiations and he hoped the
House and the country would show that they priced the
boonot peace which those negotiations had secured by
deavorng 10 take advantage OF them aay the disputes
between the two countries. and establish
muncatOn between England aud the United States so
that those mutual differences which had to time
esangcd them should again threaten the that
ought to exist between them and with that threaten the
peace Of the whole world.
Sir JOHN HAMMER said, that while he was rs ready as
any honorable gentleman to admit the great advantages
which We're likely to from the treaty, yet he could
not but protest against the precedent which present
ton calculated He should be happy TO hear up
on what grounds her Macsys Government were disposed
to withheld their opposition from such a motion. 1t had
never been the practice 10 propose of thanks
ambassador ON concluding with foreign country
and why such distinction should made in this instance
he could not understand The possible nconveni
ehc' must result from the course proposed to be taken;
and he therefore earnestly protested against IT, at the
same time that he yielded respect the noble
lord who negotiated the treaty.
Lord SrANLY had rather hoped that some of those
honorable gentlemen who, on former occasions
ous 10 attack and the proceedings the noble lord
whose conduct was under consideration would have
addressed the House after the able speech OF the honorable
and learned member for Lskead and that he lord STAN
ey should have had opportunity of repving TO them;
but as those honorable gentlemen did appear disposed
10 reiierae those which they avshy put forth
on former occasions, he felt himself called upon 10 aav
lew words more especially after the speech honorable
member Tor Hull (Sr John Hanmor) had animadver.
ted on the present Us being most extraordinary and
precedented motion. Tint extraordinary he lord
Stanly) was quite ready admit. Ii no doubt most
unusual mouon, and, strictly speaking, for which
precedent could be found. lie willing admit that
nothing had taken place the mcpt OF the
sion with respect to the proceedings OF Lord Ahburton the
/ kn.tk
would neither have themselves proposed have supported
II brought forward BY others. They would not have de-
parted from precedent 10y proposing OF thanks any
ambassador for having concluded treaty, however dis
nnguished or ably concluded might have been. But
neither the House the would forgotten
motion that made, the manner in which II was
made, by noble lord the early part the session. hear
hear and bearing speech mind neither the House
nor the county could be surprised that those who anx
ous not only Tor the honor of Lord Ashbuon but for the
hohor oil me Crown and OF the country should be dis
posed TO suiers uch motion and such speech coming with
such authority, 10 without avang themselves OF an op-
Portuniy of expressing their the advantages confer
red on the country and Of the treaty concluded ny Lord Ash
burton; and that noble lord indebted to any one for
he extraordinary proceeding of having thanks of the
conferred upon him Tor concluding that treaty with
- ue person TO whom he was mainly indebted was
the noble lord the memberio Tyertcn Hear heal Tc
'ha' noble lords UNFAIR and he lord Stanley say
uhSenerOus attack, Lord AshbuOn indebted tina
favourable feeling the part OF the which had been
expressed by honorable member not otherwise
with the Government than by the union of those inst
good sentiments which, OF the ordinary course he had
come forward TO express in the form vote of thanks
one upon whom an unjust imputation and unwaantabe
I attack had been made.
The right honorable gentleman the nerher IN, No-,b
ampton (Mr Vernon SMITH had said the House had
not been counted out former OCCASION and the honor
able member Tor MonTose (r Hume thereby epryed ot
an opportunity Of making speech. the House would ne.
yer have heard Of this notion But what was the fact
before the House counted out and before the noble
lord the memberiOr Tivenon VscOunt Pamerston) made
ms extraordinary speech the honorable for Mont
rose had given notice that he should move an amendment
upon e NOBLE lords motion Tor papers, and although the
Government did that occasion declare their nten
uoh OF moving any amendment, yet they did distinctly tell
the noble lord that IT. instead Of moving those
the greater part Of which already in his possession
ana oil making speech characterized by the yehe
eh cesure against man who had been serving his
Try III distant part ui the world he had decidedly CONF
forward win motion, no, censurug the negoat on
ana re negouatOr, they would have met him. not with
simple negative, but they would have brought forward
motion To confirm those negotiations and TO express the
appreciation OF the conduct of the negotator. To tina
course me noble lord had driven Them: and it
eAaoTdnary course and not in conformity with precedent
II was nevertheless, alike due 10 the country AM
10 me noble lord, to whom injustice would be done b.
u""lhg an ulidck 10 be made against him without afford
ing TO the House opportunity of expressing an opinion
on ms conduct Tonight they had heard that there wa
nothing much found fault with in the rsaty 'Tb
honorable member for Stafford MIR T.. Bulerj had FOL,
the House that with regard the Of the treaty he d
not nd much aulf with them that on the whole he con
sdeed they might be good But what said the right hon
"I"po gentleman the member for Edinburgh Mr.. Mucau
NY Tue other nigh-he who formerly "a cabine; min
iserl He told the House, in the course Of that nttac
which was made upon Lord Ashburton, TINT never upo
any iorner occasion bad great been cast upo
BRITISH honor n iho whole Of British diplomacy
were these unmeannZ words Hear, hear.l But the
were applied to treaty which honorable gentoma
had thus night admitted was, after oil, not so bad
MI McCAULAY. / spoke Of the dispatches, and nc
OF the terms Of the treaty lChcersI
Lord SIAhLEY said he spoke from recollection. II
regretted extremely that from the action the House too
on that OCCASION he deprived Of the opportunity Of ma
kng some observations in reply the right honorable ger
ueman He understood the night honorable gentleman
say that greater stain had been cast by British dpo
macy upon British honor than what had been cast by Lon
Ashburton IN MS negotiations with the United States
Now, these terms such neither Lord Ashburto
nor the Government should submit cheers and he there
lore Ioiced that the honorable member for Montrose ha
gwen the House opportunity OF expressing its dstnC
opinion upon the subject ,chcersJ Was II the opino
OF the House that such stain had been cast upon Births
nonor by Lord Ashburon's negodatons1 Hear hearl-