Vermont telegraph. [volume] (Brandon [Vt.]) 1828-1843, 1843-07-19
REWARDS AND PUNIsnMENTs.


REWARDS AND PUNIsIuENTS.
The article below, appeared and came
% my notice, while | was attending the
Convention al Randolph. The two 9TH
sr Conventions following have made it in
g nyenieI.t for me TO give it attention until
now. And should not now occupy time
Or space with il, but fJr the OCCASION it
ylVes 70 anplify on some points Of the ar
gumeut not b, fore finished. NY remarks
are annexed in the form OF notes.
Reply TO o. S. Murray.
Olson s. Murray complains Of me Gr
mot publishing his article on rewards and
puuls hments, which noticed sometime
|sn,e CD | had no objection 20 publish
log his article, OF a pant Of It at least, j. e..
81 much of it as related TO rewards and
punishmen bat as was merely notic-
NJ one idea Of his, | did no. deem it ne
yssAry to publish his remarks, por did 1
suppose he would Care about their belug
Published in my paper ~ certainly
had no such motives nor feelings about
the matter as he supposes. would pub
|lsh 1t now if could find il, merely FIR
his qualification, il not fJr my own. Bat
bis article Of sevea and halt columns in
iroy 10 my brief remarks, | cannot con
sul to publish Ii is too long. in all con-
elence. Two-ihlrls Of i is unnecessary
10 the issue between Us, and en.ilely irrel-
|cmn' .(3) will state the matter of chtr-
,ace between US as understand il.
Friend Murray's views Of the nature and
pln OF the OWN. government with re.
|girl 20 virtue aud wee, aud tnlne, are The
sine (D We agree that al Is cause and
ltc,, or antecedent and cons qutnt; aud,
sal misery is consequent on vice, and hap
puess on virtue (5) cah such misery
nnl happiness, REGARDS ana Punish
msnls." a he oljecs 10 calling II by
aese names. We neither &C use believe
MAT The government Of God is arbitrary
oar difference on tn matter, is mereIy
he choice AMI use Ct words. (6) Aud
BshoJ Butler entertained precisely the
sine idea of the nature Of the divine adj
mluIstation, that Frien Murray does,
aal expresses the view In the feAtract
quoted.
Ian most happy to agree with the &c
Tor Of the I" Telegraph" when he says
THAT rewards and pnnishments as attach
el 10 God in preaching by government
ndvocales, and practiccd by them IN theI
governments, are heaven wide from Ia
accessory cons, quences OF we'll and III
Dong" But does it follow, that brcaus
mea have preached wrong views Of rs
wards anG puuishments, anu practice,
wrong, therefore there is no such Thing q
rewards aud punishmens IN the divm
Government Certainly not. am SURE
|Alt Murray denied. il words i'll his 10
liner article, that there are eithef reward
or puaishmeuts in the divine atlninistTc
uon
Friend Mar ay mistakes 10 saying, III
81 with one breath, admll the divine go,
,rnmcul 10 be what iD truth ills, and vii
he next confouud AID identify With j
something entirely different" have II
done SO. have never supposed any oil
urewards aud punismcnls, than those pr
luced ia the natural order Of cause and {
kct And This is the same view OF the q
,ne government presented y Butler
he extract quoted. Mr.. Murray nj
akts Buffers mean Hg eulrely. Il
@crlooks that Butler said. "For If civ
aagilraies could make the sanctions
heir iaus lake place without trial al
he iormalilies Of an execution; It the
sere abIe,o make the e laws execute thea
'1vrs, or every odcnler TO execute iheI
Ppm himself, we should be J1St IN Il
ame sense under their government The
awe are now; bUt "a a much higher d
gee aud in more perfect naRaSr.
Now Batter supposed that Goa's 60
snnent is Of this kind. so that we a
under his government in much high
a'gree anil in a more perfect ma0aer
Ran we are under the Imperfect COVER
1rnt cf civil ma gistrates.
Bulrr evidently supposed with NJ
Murray. that the Divine government :"
HARMONIOUS working OF causes and ,
ects." He eknovledged the impyIft
'kn OF human governments. and labor
10 show, that the divine government
raases aud effects. did not absoIve US fro
being under proper gcvernmenl bat p's
ed Us under a g0reTameRL "ln mu
higher degree. and more perfect mannci
lie does, by no mems, asseI', thatthe g
eminent oil God is analogous in as M
or Of operation 10 the government OF IN
His doctrine is, that the Divine Being
50 CONSTITUTED, the system Of things, 4
pleasure is attendant on some actions q
pain on others, land Murray agrees to /
cea.) and this arrangement. he calls
proper formal nvlion Of government. |
Murray believes with Butler. that suct
ne mGsasr Of Gods government. and
: he questions. whether II is "proP
he acknowledges with one breath
sseh,is the plan OF the divine gvvernm
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