The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-11-24
General Sessions
Before Recorder Tallmadge and Aldermen Emmans and


Nash
TRIAL RAGGE WIZ FORGERY
Nov. 23--The Trial of Henry NJ Ragge and his WIFE
Esther Co. for forgery OF check IN the name of Austen
wilmerding s Co for $4,000 on the Seventh Ward Bank
implicated with Henry Saunders jr was continued. Tho
prosecution conducted by District Attorney Whiting
assisted by John W. Edmonds, Esq The defence by Da
vd Graham and VIM. NJ. Price, Esqs.
EDWARD HooKEy called and sworn for the cution
live at 90 Canal street. with Moech and Patchtman jew
oilers; do know Ragge; went in August last to get
$50 bill changed at 80 Canal street-it was a grocery
store.
partner Of Mr. Pstchtman Ragge atmy store the
4th of September; he bought gold pencil and gold watch
key; the here shown is similar but cannot 10
it, this box; he paid for these in small notes; he
called the evening and the day. was in the back
part of the when the $50 note given TO my part
ner.
The cross examination elected nothing
JosEPH SMITH, mulatto man called live at III Es
her street, did live at al Mulberry street in August last
know Angelina Osborn saw Ragge in my yard on
Thursday Sd of September; he asked for tho coored wo
man. Angene he again in the afternoon, and said
he wanted her to GO to his Canal street do
sewing for his wife; asked him his name and he said 1t
was OF no consequence; told Angelne, when she came
home
Q-Was there any thing particular in his appearance
Ayes, he had tuit of hair on his under lip.
Q-Was it larger or smaller than the one he wears
nowl
Al see more there now.
GThe accused had shaved it of some yesterday
SAMUEL MARTIN, boy, called.-l live with Luther ana
MARITIME grocer the OF Canal and Church Streets
have Ragge and Saunders together the last time
was at Hoboken the day of the buffalo hunt was on
the 3ls day of August saw Saunders first that day ut
stores he called for glass of wines had some CONVEX
saon about the Buffalo hunt remained there nearly an
hour half the house where Ragge boarded Is near
y opposite store; saw Saunders watching the mousse
never saw Saunders before that day have Ragge
at our store Saunders Ragge when he left store
was in the store when the boy Hockey came In with
bill to change; do not know the denomination of the BILL
when Saunders and Ragge met they walked away pretty
and appeared to be closely engaged in earnest CONVEX
saton
store that Ragge and theyonng man who was in the
store 60 down the way
called.
o-Iow many checks forged on your house in
Counsel for defence objected but the Court admitted the
| question with the exceptions of defence.
Witness continued--There were S25,5O0 altogether |;
the iorgeries paid the 3st OF August on ten i
ferent banks have seen this red box before at Mrs.
Sarah Hunters Saturday the 9th of September at 275
Division street Mr. Palmer of the Merchants Bank was
with me Mrs. Hunter showed us the contents there
were $3.50 in bills of the Seventh Ward Bank there
| S2i $50 Of other bank notes.
of June to the latter end of August boarded with
Saunders at 6s Duane street, occupied the same
think have Ragge before won't be certain
think have him at the corner Of Broadway ana Du
street went into my room one night in hurry and
person setting at the table with saunders saunders
| said it was Ragge ' .-
| IThe Court ruled out this last answer
WrNxss-I think Ragge is the person that saw with
Saunders at the corner Of the did not the face
of the person who in our room with Saunders ]
Raggc and Saunders together in Centre street
| once afterwards
| Cross.examinei- not positive that ever saw Rag
ge think SO, though. .I...
| ALoSzo r. H,MPro caed-l am a grocer Mt SO anal
street corner of Church lad brought $50 bill Of the
Seventh Ward Bank to our store TO change. ~ .,
Young Saunders here came into Court and all eyes
| were turned towards him
witness continued changed the note; cannot re-
collect the day but was the month the forgery
mted saw Saunders store the day Of the Buff
ao Hunt which believe was the 3lst Of August; when
he left he joined Ragge, and they went off together
| Crossexamined.- Ragge has been in my store dozen
times ut least; changed the bill because II was hankable
| and gave part uncurrent money in exchange; have
\ like Saunders.
| Mrs s.n.u HUNTER called, but owing to her ex
trcme hcratdavit read which confirmed
the previous statements relative to the opening OF the boz
containing the money =,
wife and Saunders boarded with my mother last WINTER N
Maiden ane Ragge and his wife boarded with us IN Canal
the 9Th of September he paid S6a on the 7h he paid S.
and on Saturday the 9th Mrs Ragge paid S25.
The Grand jury here came into Court and having
finished their business were discharged.
| WITNESS COMMUNICATIONS to paying these large
amounts they in the habit Of giving small sums; the
DELAY of payment she said occasoned by their not re
cevng remtances from Demcrara which they expected
Juy he said he had agency for the sale OF cologne
| and perfumery when he paid me the 500 he told to
tell the landlord that he had received from Demo
rara but he got from rend he said he hal recciv
the SIS bill enclosed in letter from friend and might
well have H. have heard of Saunders being at our
in Canal street. his visits were to as well az TO Ragge
and his wife; his visits nothing more than were
warraned the first time that officer Kellnger called he
saw Ragge, and aso the second time.
Cross-examined bv defence am the daughter of Mrs
Ragge and his wife came TO board win US IN Decemoer
last by the introduction Of Mr. Seamen the Bavaran con-
sul Saunders had been boarding with us from the Ausus,
previous; say whether Rage was at dinner or
on the 3st of August he ndposed on that day
this was the day of the Buffalo hunt.
DAVID Ausrrv, recalled The money found In the box
was shown witness stated that he marked the notes
with the initials of his name at the time was found
| GERARD OrrES called know Ragge; have seen him
in prison since he was arrested
| QcEsrrov-Wherc did Rage tell you that he got the
money from that he paid for his boardi
A.. min M mi
in Amsterdam two wears, shorter or longer
after to this country went to board at the SAINT
house with Rage
| Qursr,ov Were YOU examined before the police
| Counsel for defence objected
Mn EpMovp stated that II his intention to show b'
the previous examination of this witness that he dt ther
remember the reply OF Ragge to the question reanve
where he got the and he therefore wshed 10 re-
fresh his memory this point
An argument here ensued. and the witness was with
drawn to allow Mr. Graham time TO produce authorities to
show that the question could not be legally answered.
The prosecution here called Henry SAUNDERS Jr. ioI
the purpose Of examination. - .
Mr. GRAHAM objected to the admission OF his testimony
Tie stated that Saunders had entered pea OF guilty "a
one the indictments against him. in which the two prs
oners, Mr. and Mrs Ragge were mpeadch ann aso tha
lie cited the Of Sang for the murder OF Mrs winnie
Albany decided bv Judge Dnerin which Srang al'e
trial and conviction offered witness AGAINST Nr'
Whppe and rejected the ground that such testimony
bc received matter OF course but as mat
Ter Of discretion in the power OF the Court TO gran
only on promise Of pardon 10 the wncssas such adms
sion gave him equitable title to pardon He also rea|
from ID Darlington ana Pavnc, where the princlp WI
laid down that witness implicated was not 10 be alowe
20 testify in general il he charged with any othe
felony than that the trial Of which he was to be wit
ness.
The Court herctook recess from o'clock till d.
| EVENING SESSION.
Mr. wHrrSG replied IN Mr. Graham at length, and dc
MED the positions taken by the defence.
| The CouRr admitted the testimony Of Saunders.
WIN G. TNvIs barber ofN 45 Canal street was called
know Ragge the day before his arrest he LEFT two boxes
| with me; they covered with brown paper; DO not
know their size: he said they samples OF cologne
they covered with brown paper: asked him II
should open the box: he said No" this box here shown
appears not to be large those were he had left boxes
there before.
B.cEus p. WuBuR called am n carriage driver:
have Saunders here before he 10 carriage
and asked TO drive 10 the Boston boa he told me 70
,rive fast put the horses and rum and got 70 the
slip Just the Boston boat going outs was standing
n the foot Of Courandt street when he met ne he wa.
alone then; then drove West street and he stoppc
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