New-York daily tribune. [volume] (New-York [N.Y.]) 1842-1866, 1843-01-09
y-YoEsA, MONDAY MORNING, JANUARY Q. 1913.

had ofen Mr. Spencer talking with Cromwell PREV
Gus 10 hrs arrest They appeared u be very Intimate
have them tnIkir. orecate and the Jacobs
ihdder IN o~ tone OF voice. 80 tat could mol nass OIL
81 their discourse have been Standing within ave or
feet 81 them could hear hat they saiG both By
night and by day. have HEM talking together nun
Der oil times can't say how often never sa" Mr. SPe0'
Ger show Cromwell any paper have seeu him MAKE I'M
p.esenS OF money haze not seen Spencer tssiag 70
Small 10 my knowledge. Spencer never sad any hin 20
ne ahoat hhlag the vessel or shytnuls o. lT sstt t
Cromwell, nor Small any one on eoaTd Discipin"
~cs very good Til arrival a. Madeira. Asr leaving MA
d"ira something very extraordinary occurred win reg arc
10 the conduct OF the crewi was net 50 god as sore
Some looked very n!l-n They were very sack 10 OBEY
ing orders Alter tie and before The execution they
used 20 aEG three and four number together but dot
know what they were isisiug ABOUT They spoke low
There than grOnp iInlc about me de2s
We rad Tot liberty the galley and get coffee when
wanted 1t. The cook would sometimes give II to as II
We asked hm. have often him give u 20 tror"e!i
always hin get it / and maize a state
m-pl before the council of officers board the SomerS
The opinion gave before that council was that the rtsse
not sGfe While The prisoners Cromwell. SEna! and Spen
Ger board Ny reasons were because OF the noi
Der of men confined and the few there were on board
the vessel TO guard them. There must have been more OF
he than those arrested who had something 10 do with
it but cannot say who they never heard either
Spencer Cromwell Small say anything about their con-
in the uiuDy. Cromwell attempted al the tnae OF ex
ecutien 10 jump o7erboard two three times previous TO
the rope being put round his meek. was his guard
b. ard bin plead innocence.
The deposition made by the witness before ths COUNCIL
was read him and he said that 1t was correct
Questioned by Captain Mackenzie
Did Spencer ever say to you. Charley VIII you nave
a drink.
A. He gave glass of grog (brandy) for lending him
my bed when he had lost his overheard aud for
scrubbing pair CT panialooss for him.
Was grog 81 we'd gu! on board the soners TO the men
a. No s! no liquor whatever. knew that from Cap
tain Mackenzie before shipped on board her.
Q. Did Mr. Spencer ask you you had ever been
in SLAYER!
O. What OF usage had you board The vessei-was
it worse than on board other vessels
a. Ii Sas good-beterttan had on board other vessels
O. How often have all hands been called IN lhe nso' 10
shorten sail OF make sail
Commodore Jones' said that he thought this courseo e1
aminlton entirely unnecessary and only engihcnea
the proceedings.
The Judge Advocate conceded. with this, but said he
did know how object it The subject OF the ques'
embraced in The general question as 10 ae tree
meat the crew and he thought totally unnecessary
Captain Mackenzie said il the wnes, answered the queS-
tion weud show that il mad been the case, and
woud dsprove the charge that any cruelty or haTshnes'
had bees used by him towards the crew.
After farther remarks from The Judge Advocate ana
Commodore Jones, the question was Withdrawn.
I he testimony the witness read over and he re.
tired.
Charles Rogers s,rorn-I board the somers dur;
ing Quarter Master The FIRST heard OF
tse nutiny was on aight Mr.. Spencer confined
Before the OF Africa MIR. Spencer said 10 me
rat he wished he had the aGuch and such he
could pick on, from the crew ne would make his tor
This when brig was bearing down towards
them said then think your intent must be for taking
the brig which was in si9 and he SAID yes told hin IL
would be hard 10 ld ten men OF the crew 10 Jake la YES
sell He said yes he could find ten men, and then Hen,on
ed the names OF tic and asked my opinoa
about thesi Some of tue We're wilson and C1ra.
naugb and Mckinley and Green that was all Lat that tune
him II one calm night on tbs passage from cape
de Verde Isians al Africa Spencer was very
intimate wiki Cromwell; more so than ever saw an oicer
with any of the crc~ before was on deck when Use
boom tackle carried away, ana the !en rushed at out
did not hear ,ng. l was too far ait Cromwell
and Small were The only ST the that Understood
navigation, TAR as know Cromwell told me thai Spca.
had given him SIS was examined beiofe the Coun-
eli and gave my opinion ;ha would not be very ,a;e 10
try America vita all The prisoners on board
We had bat few and the small boys would be GOOD GOOD
many them the sick list as the cold weather WIS com
gan, while. far as could understand most all tue
nteF bays we're egnged IN Tue pici tnousis se o'usf
boys engaged in Tie plot because heard from pr
6aIsevoort thai most OF their names were todnd on MI
SpeGcCr's isl gong 10 JON hn Lad mol scen ely
thing in their behavior myself 10 lead me 20 such an opu
ion my being most Of tie time ait, aud not
associated much with the boys do not believe that the
Somers cod have been brought SAFELY into port ii those
men had nc: beea executed thought so then aud mink
now.
The witnesses testimony, recorded by the counsel
read 10 him, and he said II was correct
said in the Judge Advocates
night before sailed from NevYork; ihey often
taking together, aud appeared 20 be vc-y intimate. Sn-
~ appeared intimate with Smai and then WIN Me
kis He did net appear he intimate with Cromwell un.
NJ after our arrival III Madeira, when they appeared to be-
come mYrr intimate The discipline goos I'LL we ar
rived Madeira II alter We LETT up tn the time
the arrest and aga- from that time ill the execu-
ton; after which tho crew seemed 10 work smarter.
Question by Commodore Stewart:
@ Did the appear 10 be better satisfied after the
execution than they before!
Il. The larger part OF the crew did.
Questioned by Capt. Mackenzie:
O. Have yo Spencer give brandy tobacco 10 any
OF IEe crew.
A. No sir bot have heard oft.
@ What Sor. OF usage had you on board The Somers'
Il We c-lrd il good usage.
The testimony OF the witness read over and ZEE re-
ter and he Court adjourr 10 halt past II O'Clock on
Monday iDcrning.
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