Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-05-18
TREATY OF WASHINGTON.
Debate ia the House of Lords. the motion OF
Lord nrouxham Tor "a vote os thanks 60 Lord
Ashbarton.


Lord nrouxham Tor "a vote os thanks To LORD
Ashbarton.
The noble lord aud the govcrnmen, who had appointed
him the office could have been influenced by only one
motive. that of establishing good understanding be-
England aud the United States OF American lie
could not however close his to the advantages as well
the disadvantages Of the various points OF the treaty
which his noble fend had carried into effect lie could
sosmny declare that when he first heard OF tina, treaty he
only loiced successful termination but approved
81 the Of the treaty. Iwas until he had eonsd'
cred and made himself acquainted with the details oil the
treaty and the correspondence connected with the SUBJECT
tina, made those objections which he had advered ear
~ in the present session OF Parliament He was prepared
limit that the Of calumny against the none oru
had been successfully rebued lie anxious to doIus
tco to the government the United States. IL had been
candidy admitted by the American Government DUNG the
negotiations with that country, that the Federal Govern
men was Of such that il was out OF their power
do justice the demands OF this country and that before
that could be effected they would be obliged to have
course to alterations Of tho law in order to remove
such questions from the cognzancc OF the provincial courts
over which the central government had little control
This showed a disposition the part OF the American
Government do what circumstances required, and
modify the law for that purpose. Into the case of
the Creole il his intention to enter. He
was not prepared give opinion upon that
factory footing lie would now proceed 10 consider the
three points connected with the treaty which pre-
vented him from participating in the satisfaction amounting
Joy, which his noble and learned friend has expressed
himself iofeel. lie would, in the rst place, refer 10 the
Madawaska territory He adverted to this because was
put forward. The noble lord had stated that the award OF
the King the Netherlands had been accepted with salts
faction lie begged say that he had heard such
from any other individual Ii was matter of
compuson BY treaty this country was bound To accept
tho award whatever il might be. When the noble lord
the late Secretary for Foreign Affairs into office, he
found himself obliged agree to that award lie had
alternative IN the NATTER he had not the power ct oNercis
rag any choice the subject. The British Government
had alternative But what was the course which the
American Government pursued with regard 10 that award
lie say that the American Government got out of
by what he justified IN calling mere sub,eriuge
tchocrs a subtcruge which he should much regret To
the British Government practice. lCheers.) The Amori-
Government availed itself of subertuge. In this
award omission made relating to particular point,
and in consequence OF that omission the American Gov
said they not bound by that award Was
be supposed that when that award aside the
Try be continually bound by that award and to give
up everything TO the American Government The no
BILE lord the middle of his speech appeared to make
light of the interests OF those persons of French
traction many of whom had been induced 10 emigatc
the Madawaska territory He could not perceive why by
establishing themselves they should have lost the good
esteem of their counymen lie had TO complain that their
ordhps in possession OF the instructions given
TO Lord Ashbuon with the view TO the settlement OF this
question. He expected the instructions which had ela
the right OF search He would refer the despatch
Is, and particularly the first letter of Lord Ashbnron
in which stated his ultimdtu viz the points upon
which II was his intention TO yield and those which It
his determination enforce. In page :, Lord Ashburion
said that would be hard and crue-iat they could
any abandon the interests OF the people settled the
Madawaska territory. AT the conclusion OF this despatch
the noble lord emphaticay declared that it his pur
pose to give up any point to which reference had been
made IN his despatch. IL not certainly, credtnbc
after having given expression such opin
ions-ater having declared that it would
city abandon persons who had lived under the protection
OF this govcmmenthe maintained that after making such
declarations, it right withdraw from the persons
VINO had emgraied that territory the protection of the
British Government. But what happened afterwardsl-
The noble lord remained some time in America He
ceyed petition from those people, and after interview
WIN Mr. Webster he said that the information which he
had since received had confirmed his first impression
the necessity of maintaining the rights Of the people OF
Madawaska,- aud that he had no power 10 give up
the territory. After stating this, he yielded the ponl,
and did give up the territory. representation made
the noble lord that the inhabitants of Maine had stated
thn II was not the wish OF the people OF Madawaska
live under the experimenting control of the English Gov
vernment He did not know whether any OF their lord
ships had looked at the map, but If they had done they
could not but observe the immense advantages conceded
by this treaty, which could certainly have been ENJOY
EDDY the Americans under the award OF the King Of Hoi
land. There first OF all the navigation OF the -.
Johns nver Let not their ordshps suppose that he o
LansIowno was opposed 10 the free navigation O that
stream. All his life he had advocated the free navigation
OF every ryer throughout the world-the unrestricted
yeyance by all nations from the the mouth, and
from the mouth mp 10 the BUTT proper Tor
10 consider tins concession concession. Ii right
we should remember that by cedng this freedom Of
CATION we were, in fact, permitting the American timber
and American corn 10 be brought duty free, into this
tya consideration, perhaps, hch might lead him
10 favor than TO oppose the concession but which he rather
thought would be Objectionable lords upon
The other side Besides should borne IN mind that had
we been more chay Of this privilege, might least
had something u bargain with. But this idea ap
pelred 10 have been kept IN view.
The cession oi 1t. Johns navigation the only
concession There was Sugar lsland-a territory
pisng - OOO acres vt land ST. Georges Isand-we had
abandoned that also We had been obliged to abandon
hoiihero these He did not know that there any par
cular why rhey should have been given up II
any equivalent had been offered but they should not have
been dealt with as matters for liberty without being
made the subject OF either exchange negotiation 'Agan
there beyond Lake Superior some millions Of acres
containing 1t asserted important mineral district
THIS properly had heen affected by the King VI Hollands
award, but II had been given up by Lord Ashburton.-
whether the proceeding wise unwise he lord Lans
downc should not now stop inquire, but with reference
TO hls territory a. with reference the rest he did
hsthat whether this and rest were conceded at first
of ast-wheher they conceded one by one or alto
gether-they ought not ihave been surrendered without
equivalent and least of all when ground hgh was taken
as that which assumed with reference the territory Of
Makawaska Therefore it that he could not concur in
voting that this abandonment of the people of Madawaska
was subject Of 10y" II that territory was TO be pycn
up might It not at least have been made equivalent for
some such boundary that OF the ST. joint But rs the
case now stood all the advantage Of the bargain was ON the
slut o America, Tor though did certhny ter
rtoy, there this difference between which acquired
md that which cOnceded-tha whereas we acquired
only barren, uncunyaed and Improbable territory we gave
up district fertile. popular and useful means
Of defending the Canadas and their approaches by the
81 Lawrence. Nevertheless however he must not be under
stood as treating this point merely related to the question
territory lie admitted that extent Of territory extent
was an object Of comparatively minor importance. The
great question the importance Of this possession as
related TO the defence OF Canadian proynces and here
he boldly challenged the noble and learned mover in hs
Character Of Judge as 10 TINS matter. TIE noble and ear
ned lord had over and again emphatcay stated in
that house that IN his opinion the two Canadas in na
u0nn point OF view, worth nothing mother country
Entertaining that opinion the noble and learned Lord sure
~ could not be 50 severe critic the surrender Of ter
nioy bearing the defence Of the Canadas az one who
thought that II necessary and desirable that the Cana
dos should be maintained for the honor the profit and the
integrity Of the British Empire. tHed- hoar) The noble
and learned lord did not entertain the opinion that II was
desirable 10 preserve the Canadas; but though no doubt
much less c0qucncc than he had employed that night would
induce Her Maestys Government 70 take 10 thems Ives the
diplomatic hon0rs with which be willing 90 invest them
yethe Lord Lansdowne) that II would require
lu' greater degree Of cloquonco induce the noble duke
opposite the Duke Of Wellington TO concur IN the opinion
' n' Oanndas were yuluoess the mother c6ntry On
he a 1 .