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Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

A PRiNTER's ExPERIENcE.-Mr. Sever
auce, the excellent editor of the Kennebec
Journal, is the Wing candidate for Congress
in his district. In reply to some of his OPP
ponents, he gives the following reminis-
cence:
The senior editor of this paper went to
Philadelphia in 1919, and was there two
years a journeyman printer He found it
very difficult to get work enough 10 pay his
way. He had an opportunity at that time
TO see something Of the condition of the
country, as well as the city-for in one case
his employers, instead Of paying him his
wages, could only give him lot of news.
paper bills to collect in the country. He
took them and went up the Delaware, on a
tramp going up the New Jersey side, and
coming down through Pennsylvania. He
collected hardly enough to pay his expenses,
although these were very small, for he went
on foot, aud carried his bread and cheese in
his pockets. lie felt in no danger OF being
robbed, for he had nothing to lose but his
printers bills-nor OF being moIested, for
his appearance did not indicate the possess
sion oil any thing valuable.
The depression of business then existing
was caused, first, by the failure of great
number Of banks, which had been got up
between 1911, when the old National Bank
charter expired, and in 1917, when the new
National Bank went into operation From
that time the old rotten banks began to fail,
one after another, as the National Bank re-
ceived all payments into the public revenue,
and took the paper OF no banks which did
not redeem in specie. The resumption of
specie payment, thus brought about, swept
off the baselcss paper, and Of course, great
ly reduced the currency in circulation
This again reduced prices of property, and
rendered the payment of debts difficult.
Second, From the want of protection TO
our manufactures, we were every year del
uged with British goods, poured in upon US
after the war. This swept off all our specie
and threw our people out of employment.
and the times were bad enough until after
the passage Of the tariff of 1894. THEN
WE BEGAN TO GAIN. But we needed lutte
more protection on wool, woolens, irons.
&c. and this we got in 1898. We toere
then lceH enough. We had the best curren-
cy in the world we had abundant revenue.
and tie country lCds ReUer more prosperous.
and continued to prosper until the jackson
reiormers commenced their experiments,
the effects Of which we are still suffering
under
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
STATE OF VERMONT.

PTobate Distr1ct Of Marlboro, IS.
liz PRoBArE CouRT, August sIst, Is4S.
ZONE Caleb Howard and Laban Jones,
" executors OF the last VIII and Testament
Of John Howard, late of Dover, in said district,
deceased, and file their administration account
for examination and allowance; whereupon, it
is ordered that the same be heard and examin-
ed before said Court, at a session thereof to be
holden at the Inn Of Arad Burnett, in New
fame in said district, on the last Thursday of
September next; and for the purpose of notify
ing all persons interested therein of the time
and place of hearing, said executors are direct
ed 10 publish copy of the record of this or
der three weeks successively in the Vermont
Ph9nix, printed at Brailleboro, in said dis
trici, previous TO said time Of hearing.
A true Copy from the Record
. Attest, LEMUEL WHITNEY, Reg'r.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
STATE OF VERMONT.
PROBATE Dislriel Of Marlboro,

IUV"tt I1tofTttI y suHItUOFU, %.
In PROBATE CoURr, Sept. 9Th, ls4S,
ZONES Lafayette Clark, administrator
~ upon the estate of Thaddeus Miller, laie
OF BralIleboro, in said district, deceased, and
files his administration account for examination
and allowance; whereupon, il is ordered, that
the same be heard and examined before snid
Court, at a session thereof 10 be holden at the
Inn of Arad Burnett, in Newiane, in said dis
trict, on the last Thursday of September inst.
And for the purpose Of notifying all persons in
terested, Of the lime and place of hearing, said
administrator is directed TO publish copy of
the record Of this order three weeks successive
~ in the Vermont Ph9nix, printed at Rratiie-
boro, IN said district, previous to said time Of
hearing.
A true Copy from the Record,
Attest, LEMUEL WHITNEY, Rep'r.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
STATE OF VERMONT.

Fro6dte District Of Marlboro, IS.
liz PRoBArE CoURr, August Goth, lS4S.
ZONE Samuel p. Strong and Almon Ames,
~ Executors Of the last Win and Testament
of David Strong, late OF Marlboro, in said dis
trici, deceased, and file their administration ac-
count Tor examination aud allowance; where
upon, il is ordered, that the same be heard and
examined beinre said Court at a session thereof
10 he holden at the Inn of Arad Burnett, in
Newlane in said District, on the last Thurs
day OF September next. And for the purpose
OF notifying all persons interested therein, of
the time and place Of hearing, said Executors
are directed to publish copy Of the record Of
this order, three weeks successively in the Yer
mont Phrnix, printed al Bratieboro, in said
district, previous 20 said time Of hearing.
true Copy from the Record.
. Attest, LEMUEL WHITNEY, Reg'r.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

The Rhode Island Election for members
~ o, Congress took place on Tuesday last
The Providence Journal of yesterday gives
Tie following account of the result:
We have again to record triumph of the
avs to announce a victory of the Rhode
Island party over the last desperate efforts
\ Dorrism. Cranston and Potter are elect
~ Oy majorities even greater than the tri-
'Iuphant vote which swept the State last
'Hpnl' We have gained every where
IN less of party machinery than we ever
.Se" IN contested election, we have gain
a victory which would have been glori-
We alter any amount Of effort.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
MODERN DEFINITIONS.

Vulgar Girl One that supports herself
and mother by the fruits Of honest industry
Respectable GirL-One tina; is dressed in
the latest fashion, aud idles away her time
by making calls while her poor mother is
shaving at the wash tub to support her
LoGfr.-A poor mechanic with his coat
off earning an honest living by the sweat of
his brow
Gentleman. who lives by dshones-
ty, and looks With contempt on every work.
ing man, and whose character is Judged by
the cut of his coat
Christian Lady.-One that has been rails
ed from the kitchen by fortune marriage,
and will abuse, scorn, and half starve those
in her employ, while on the Sabbath she will
disguise her vices by pretended look of
piety.
Christian Gentleman -One that bestows
crust of bread on poor destitute neigh
Dor, while his name appears in public as the
contributor of hundreds of dollars to some
foreign missionary scheme.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
BRTGHTON MARKET. Sent. a.

(Reported from the Daily Advertiser and Pairiot)
AT Market 600 Beef Cattle, 100 Stores, 30 Cows
and Calves, $500 Sheep, and 400 Swine.
PRlCES-Beef Caitle-A very small number of
extra at so 20 first quality % so; Sec
ond quality 75 25; third quality A3 co.
Stores-Sales not sufficient TO establish prices
and S24. -
Sheep--Saies quick; lots were sold from 75r 20
80. WetherH 80, GO, rs; very nice lot 10
ship, So.
Swine-Lots Of Shoats TO peddle at 3-4e for
Sows, and 3-4c for Bairowp. lot Of old Hogs
at La SAC. AT retail from 10 &c.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
N OTICE.
EBENEZER MILLER, NJ. d..

EBENEZER MILLER, NJ. d.,
Il ATE from Castleton Medical College,
IL gives public notice 10 the inhabitants Of
Guillord and its vicinity, that he has, by the
request OF Doct. Stevens, the resident physi-
clan Of Guilford Centre, and others of the viii
lage, located himself a; Green River, where,
by his faithful attendance 10 the calls Of his
profession, he expects TO merit a share Of the
public patronage.
Guiliord Green River,) Aug. 5, 1913. a
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
Vermont Almanac and Reg.
Is.e- for 1884.

TIME favorable reception and friendly noii-
4 crs Ut the fist number III this valuable lit
Tie annual, has stimulated the publishers TO an
Increased exeriion TO make the SECOND number
equally deserving the patronage Of discerning
public, and they intend lis future merits shall
fully sustain the favorable reputation which the
first number has acquired.
iD= This Register win be ready for delivery
on or about The 20ili Of November, aud all or
ders will be thankfully received and PROMPTLY
answered. liberal discount made TO those
who buy in quantities.
HASKELL & PALMER.
Woodstock, Aug. %, ls43.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
TEMPERANCE CONVENTION.

AT meeting Of the friends of Temperance hol-
den at Fayetteville, May l6, ls43 10 consider the
exPediency Of forming County Temperance So
ciety, il voted, after free remarks on the sub
Ject, that committee OF three he appointed TO
suit with the officers of the ssWindhatn County
Temperance Society," in reference 10 the exprdi-
ency of calling County Convention OF the friends
Of the cause in the County for the purpose Of or
ganizing New Society, add if thought best, to call
such meeting, ut their discretion, TO time and
place. The undersigned having been appointed
COMMITTEE, and having attended 10 the business
assigned them do accordingly call on the friends
of Temperance throughout the County, TO meet in
Convention al Fayetteville Wednesday, Sept.
18th, at 10 O'Clock A. NJ, for the purpose Of form
ing New Society, and doing such other business
relative TO the interests Of the temperance
may come before them. The Temperance Socie-
ties in the several towns in the County respect
fully invited to send two delegates TO the
above named Convention.
C. r. BATCHELDER,1
Z. A. HOLTON, Com.
Z "A WHITE
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
ShaavTs q. NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS..

n ToWNSLEY & SON are now OPEN
~ ing a splendid lot of 81, IA, and Cd
French Shawls, (enrirey new siyle.) Also,
81, IA and Ga Floridas; plain and Ia mourn
ing, and rich strip'd Chally do; Mousline de
Lame and Plaid do; Fancy Hdkfs., Cravats,
&c. SC.
Sept. 7, ls4S. 2
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
MARRIED.

Al the Vermont House in Vernon, July 2sth.
by Lorenzo Brown, Esq. Mr. James H. Harris Of
South Orange, To Miss Emeline b. Woodward Of
New Salem, Mass.
Also in Vernon, BY the same. Any. %. MIR Rich.
ard Weeks to Miss Sophia G. Stephenson, both OF
Swanzey, N. II.
In Norihheld, on the Goth nit by A. r. Field.
Esq. Ar Royal Stimson TO Miss Lucretia Clark, ali
of ~
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

TINE Windham County Quarterly Confer
Il ence meeting Of Universaiists will be hol-
den at their Chapel, in this village, on We'd
nesday and Thursday, the 3th and 18th inst.
The attendance of all Universalists in this vi
cinity is respectfully requested.
BTattlebnro, Sept 6. lS43.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
Farm for Sale.

- THE subscriber offers his farm
$ss.G Il for sale, lying in the north
lllIA east part Of Marlboro, and about
60 kSs4two miles from WiIliamSvilIe,
( Newiane.) Said farm contains 30 acres Of
good land, well divided into moving, pastur-
ing and tiage. There is on the premises a
good House, Barn, and Blacksmith shop, near
Iy new, and is we'll waiered.
Also, % acres of pasturing and wood-lsnd,
about mile from the above. Said farm will
be sold rery cheap, as the subscriber intends TO
remove TO the West.
JONATHAN C. BINGHAM.
Marlboro, Aug. 80, l34S.
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STATE OF VERMONT.
Probate District of Marlboro, s.


In PEou,TE CoURT, August SIsi, Is4S.
ZONES Drury Fairbank, Administrator
~ upon the estate OF Pefley Fairhank, late Of
WardsborO ia said district, deceased, and moves
the Court here for an extension of the time
heretofore limited him 10 render his administra-
ton account, and TO pay the debts OF the said
deceased; whereupon, II is ordered that hear
ing be had in the premises before said Court,
at a session therefore to he holden at the Inn
of Arad Burnett, in Newlane in said district,
on the last Thursday Of September next, and
for tie purpose Of notifying all persons inter
ested therein Of the time and place of hearing,
said administrator i directed IN publish a copy
of the recnrd of this order three weeks success
siveiy 10 the Vermont Phoenix, printed at Brat
tleboro, ia said district, previous TO said time
Of hearing.
A true Copy from the Record.
Attest, LEMUEL WHITNEY, Reg'r.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

The minister who married his daughter
in-law at Stonington, CT. does not have a
very comfortable honeymoon-he is serenad-
ed with tin pans, shells, &c, almost every
night. He married some ten years, since,
a widow lady, Mrs. Douglass, of Newark,
N. j., with two children, son and daugh-
ter, the daughter being at the time of her
mothers marriage about IL years of age
About Is months since, Mrs Anderson
died, and the daughter took charge of the
household affairs of her father-in-law. The
elder, after having been absent few months
recently returned with wife, who was no
other than the identical daughter-in-law, 10
whom he pretended he had been married
since Octoberast A deputation of citizens
waited upon him to know who married him,
and to demonstrate against the improperly
of a minister marrying his own daughter-in-
law He could not tell who married him,
and had no certificate to produce
Boston Post
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
STATE OF VERMONT.

Probate District of Marlboro, IS.
lS PRoBArE CouRT, August 3Ist, ls4S,
ZONE Mary Ann Coughlan and Seth Her
- rick, executors Of the last Win and Tes-
lament of Merritt Coughlan, late of Dummers-
ton, in said district, decreased, and move the
Court here for an extension Of the time hereto
fore limited them 10 render their administration
account and 10 pay the debts and egacies of
said deceased; whereupon, il is ordered that a
hearing be had in the premises before said
court, al session thereof TO be holden al the
Inn OF ATad Burnett, in Newfane, in said dis
trIct, on the last Thursday Of September next,
and for the purpose Of notifying all persons Of
the lime and place of hearing, said executors
are dlrerted To publish a copy of the record OF
tins order three weeks successfully in the Yer
mont PhGniv, printed at BrEitieboro, in said
district, previous 10 said time of hearing
A true Copy from ffe Record.
Attest, LEMUEL WHITNEY, Reg'r.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
BROWN COTTONS.

IN BALES 81, rs, "A, 90, sd, and Ca,
~ fine and coarse brown cotions. Also,
bro. Drills, Ticks, Canton Flannels, sirip'd
Cottons, just received by
G. TOWNSLEY & SON.
Sept Z, IsIs.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

Wounds on HOrseS.-Take one quarter
Of pound of sahpetre, half pint of spirits
of turpentine, half pint Of vinegar-put
them together in bottle, and shake APP be-
fore using Apply to the wound three times
a day-CeRtra w. y Farmer.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
TO TAILORS.

WANTED Immediately, good and FASH
w ionable Tailor, over the store of Dunk
lee s. Clark, 10 whom great encouragement
will be given.
West Braiieboro, Sept. G, ls49. .
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c. r. BATCHELDER, }
4. A. HOLTON, Com.
7. IL. WHITE,
SIR Frtnges, Gimps, and
Cords.

TUST received a large assortment of the
- above Goods by
G. TowNsLEY & SON.
Sept. 7,Is4S.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
~ Farm for Sale.

- TENHE Farm owned hy Samuel
&J4issG Il Gains, and lying in Guillord,
90 III On the Stage road leading from
- Brattlcboro to Greenfield. Is now
offered for sale. Said Farm contains 40 acres
of land, suitably proportioned into moving.
tillage, &c. large two story house, well fin
ished, Quilt in 1882 two barns, cider-milI,
blacksmith's shop, and other buildings There
is also a saw mill, only a few rods from the
house-on said farm there is about 40 acres OF
good rail & saving timber. Also, young or
chard of good fruit.
As the Farm must be sold, the subscriber
oilers it for 400 dollars, which, considering
the buildings, will be great bargain TO the
purchaser. Said farm is 8 miles from Brattle-
b0rO aud > liom Greenfield.
SAMUEL GAINS.
Guford, Sept. G, 1s43 -
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DIED.

In Wardsboro, the 3lst ult Mr. Matthew
Barber aged about GO years. Printers in Mass
are requested 10 notice
In Bolton, Mass. July g. Mr. Willard Howe
formerly Of Marlboro, Mass aged "a years.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
BrattIeb0ro Academy

TENHE Fall Term Of this Institution wiIlcom-
II mence WEDNESDAY, SEPTEM-
Der 9th, under The instruction of Mr. GEoRcn
.. NEwToE, a graduate Of New Haven Col
lege, who comes highly recommended as a
Scholar and thorough Teacher.
Board, from 81 ,25 to $3.50 per week. Stu
dents wishing TO board themselves can be nc
commodated with rooms in private dwellings.
By order Of the Trustees,
LAFAYETTE CLARK, Sec'y.
Bratteboro, August IS, 1S4S.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
NOTICE
THE subscriber would inform the inhabi-
Il ianis Of this and the neighboring towns,
that he will carry on the manufacturing OF
Tin. Shert IRON. &c.

10 their various branches, at the Old Stand Of
Dickinson & Chandler, and that he has en-
ployed Mr. Ashbrl Dickinson, we'll known as a
faithful and first rate worker, TO superniend
the same.
A good lot Of Stoves, Of the most approved
patterns, on hand at low prices. Stove Pipe,
in large or small quantities, made 10 order a
good assortment of TIN W.4RE, and oIhrr
articles, from which Pedlars can be literally
supplied.
Two or three Pedlers wanted, 10 whom good
encouragement viii be gwen.
AZ All Jobs done at short notice.
HENRY CLARK
Brattleboro, Sept. /, ls4S. .
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NEW GOODS! NEW GooDs!!
Sept. SEh, 1913.

THfHE subscribers have Just received their
n Fall and Winter stock or DIN Goods
among which may he found Black, Blue. Blue
Black, and Invisible Green German BEAVER
CLOTHS. Ribb'd and wave do; heavy low
priced do. Black, Blue, Green, Olive and
Claret do.
RrOadcsGths, Cassimcres and
SattTneits,
comprising every variety OF color, price and
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
Stray Horse.
LARD, LARD.

! 3000 LBS. prime Lard, in Stone Pots,
AOVO put up in families, for sale by
c. TOWNSLEY & SON.
Aug. so, 1915.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
FOR LADIES' CLOAK.S AND
ESSES

silk warp Alpaccas, Indiana and Orleans
Cloths; Cotton warp do do; black and drah
Lustres and Alapines; pieces blue black fig'l
"Lunettas'; Merino's and Muslin de LANES
Prints, Gloves. Miis, Hosiery, &c &c.
The abnye Goods having mostly been pur-
chased before the recent advance, will be sud
cheap for Produce, good CREDIT. or CASH.
? c. TOWNSLEY & SON
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

nYE WOODS, INDIGO, MADDER,
~ and complete assortment of Dye-Stufis,
lately received and for sale cheap by
WILLlSTON & TYLER.
August 80, 1s4S. evil
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
MUSIC.

O000 PAGES Piano sheet Music, for
%OOO sale low at the BooKsroRE.
August so, ls49 L
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NOTICE..
NOTICE.

HEREBY give TO my son, Horace ADD
II son Fuller, his time, with liberty TO act
Tor himself. shall claim no part Of his earn
lngs, nor be responsible for his contracts ailer
this date. ABEL, FITIIFR
DummeFston, March 80, IS48. Il
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SHEET LEAD, SHEET ZINC. BAR
- TIN. Pig Lead, Brass Kettles, Iron and
Brass Wine, Nails, Window Glass, Door-han-
dies, Butts, Screws, Files, and a fresh stock Of
HARD WARE, just received at
WILLlSTON & TYLER'S.
August 80, ls43. 6wt
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
We STENGG

comprising every variety OF color, price and
qfvt.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08

Fig'd Velvet, silk, Cashmere, and Worsted do
a large and elegant assortment, together will
Tailor's Trimmings Of all scrts aud kinds.
Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1843-09-08
JUST RECEIVED.

FLORENCE and Broad Braid Bonnets,
l. just received and for sale low at
WIN. P. CUNEsS.
Sept. /, ls4S.
The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1843-07-28

The GoLD WArcH--The following i, from o
pen OF Edward Everett. Read II every body
IN Emblem Of Socieiy.-I have now 10 my hand
gold watch which combines embe hment and uIit,
IN happy proportions, and is usually consi ertd sea,
valuable appendage 10 the person OF gentleman
Its hands, face, chain and case Of chaste ard
FURNISHED gold. lis good seals sparkle with the ruh
the topiz, the sapphire, the emerald. open it, AID
find that the works, without which this eiegll'y
chased case would be mere she'll, those hauus mo-
innless and those figures without meaning are made
OF brass. investigate further, and ask what ihr
spring by which all these put IN motion made
! am told II is made Of steel. | ask, what is sttc,.
The answer Is, that it is iron which has unde rgone
certain process. So then find the main sprul-
without which the watch ould be moiioniess aid
its hands, figures and embellishments but toys is n,
Of gold-that is not sufficiently good bras
that would not do, but OF iron. Iron is therefore tie
only precious metal; and the watch an apt emttm
OF society. Its hands and figures which tell the hour
resemble the master spirits of the a.e, 10 Whose
movements every eye is directed. Its useless iut
sparkling seals, sapphires, ruties, topaz and emte
lshmenls, The arlslocracy. lis works Of brass NE
middle class by the increasing Intelligence and pow
OF which The master spirits Of the whole are move
and its spring. shut up in box alw avs at wok
but never thought Of except vi hen il is dis rdeftd
or broke, wants winding up, symbolically the Ia.
borous classes, which, like the main spring, wind
up by the payment Of wages, and which casses az
shut up in Ubscurity, and though constantly at wolk
and absolutely necessary TO The movements Of >o.
ciety the iron main spring is to the gold watch
never thought OF except when they require their
wages, in some want or disorder OF some kind vi
other.