The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-01-05

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The witness here asked this read over and then
wished "before the execution" to be substituted for be
tered Perry wished all scratched out and then
peated his to the question he had first given it.
He continued Also from the general disposition those
And when had charge Of the deck the 29h the beam
tackle carried away and at the moment great many
persons appeared to rush aft Immediately told the boy
the wheel take hold of the weather sheet which
then held myself, and picking out two three Of the
best of the crew. and ordering the rest to forward
| they did not appear to move when first spoke
| Odd you repeat the order 2
ter deck the commander at the time coming deck.
Q-Did they say anything at this time
Odd they attempt any communication with the pr-
A-No sir not that perceived it was quite dark at
this time. Throughout this period observed that indie
scrbable which had attracted my notice before
| Q-How many men rushed aft at this time-as
| A-About fifteen or eighteen.
Q-Didthe nature ofthe accident require many
| Q-How many would have been sufficient
| A-Three or four.
Q-were those who came aft such considered
| trustworthy?
A-some of the men considered trusty were among
Odd they voluntarily, or in obedience to or.
| ders
Al said, I" Some of you aft"
Q-When you speak of your attention being excited by
knots of persons did they your approaching them per-
NIT you to hear them
| A.-No sir Sometimes such occasions their man.
ner would change, and they would allow to hear
what they were saying having evidently changed their
Q.-Did they converse together in an under tone
| Al could not say, sir.
Q.-What induced you to suspect them
A.-Their manner different from their usual conduct in
conversng together and their attention exered.
| Q-What was the largest number you thus
| A.-Four
Q.-Any other circumstances
Q.-These, them are the circumstances which induced
you suspect and led you to unto in that letter
| to the Commander
| Ayes, sir.
Q,Is there any other thing which you know calcu-
| lated to throw light on this inquiry
| A.-N0t that came under my own notice.
Q.-Aiter the arrest Of Mr.. Spencer and up to the
| cu.,Jn' was the INSTRUMENTATION increasing?
| a. .|'Accuton did it continue, or was there
| changer
| it, or expected to sect.
| Q.-Was the change marked
| Ayes, particularly by all the officers
@. by the CouRr.-Do youremember meeting any YES
| sci during this time?
| A.-Yes met French brig.
| Q.-Who was it repeatedly
| Al don't remember.
| Odd you see her?
| Ayes she was seen from deck.
| Q.-How far she offs
| A.-Abeut three quarters of a cables length.
| Odd you hail her?
A.-No, she wus boarded by u.s.
| Q. by Com. DALLAs.-She was a merchant brig
Q.-wKen did you see herr
| A.-On the morning watch of the 9th, civil time.
Q-Have you in all these dates given the civil time
Q.-After the execution, when the Commander gave
orders, were they obeyed with alacrity 2
@, by Capt MoKENzrE.-Dd you ever hear me reprove
Cromwell for striking the boys too hard or for cursng
| them
Al don't remember
@; by Capt McKrsnIE.was the somers on our ar. ar.
rival at Madeira in active fighting condition. and had the
crew been properly exercised
G. by Capt. McKEsrrE.-was attention paid to the
health comfort and happiness of the crew. and to the i'm
| provement ofthe apprentices?
| Ayes, more than on any occasion have seen.
@. by Capt. McKxNzE.-Do you know of any of the
naval regulations which not perpetualy enforced
| board the Somers
| A.-No, sir.
| @ by Capt. McKESRrE-Do you know of any apart
men or place the somers where three prisoners could
be kept safe from rescue7
| A.-No, sir do not.
Q. by Capt. McKESzrE-Did you believe or do you
believe that had the execution not taken place. the
Somers could have been brought to port safely by her
| oficers7
port and since then opinion has become more
confirmed.
| @. by Capt. McKENzE.-Do you believe, from what
you then knew of the state of the somers, subsequent to
the of Mr. Spencer and before his execution that
had she gone into action she could have sustained the
l honor of the American 1ag7
Al do not believe she in fit condition.
O. by Capt McKESzE.-Did you, from the time of the
arrest of Mr. Spencer till the arrival of the Somers this
Navy Yard discover any traces of humanity fear des
potic temper any qualities unbecoming of American
naval officers the part of the Commander of the Son.
ers, or any OF her oicers3
A.-No, sir did not
No other questions being asked the evidence of Mr..
Perry was read to him for his approval After which,
the following questions were put by
Com. STEwARr-At the time the execution were you
enough the prisoners have heard them say any
thing-if so, what was said
Al was not near enough to hear.
On examining the log book the witness said that he had
made mistake respecting the date which he had seen
the French brig 1t the 20th and not the 27th
previous to the arrest OF any Of the prisoners, or any
knowledge OF the mutiny.
@. by JUDGE ADvocATE.-On the 29h you discovered
sail standing to the southwark and westward from the
larboard bow 2
this time - "
Com. JorEs.-tis of no consequence sir.
Mr. Perry quite lad, but possessed of considerable
intelligence He gave his testimony with great clearness
juror ApvooArE-Let us have Mr.. Hciskill now.
HIM. HEnKrLL was then sworn.-He is also a young
follows Il was Purser on board the somers on her late
cruise first heard of the mutiny from Mr.. Wales he
came to the morning of the 26h and in low tone
of voice told me that the evening previous, Mr. Spen
had revealed to him plan which he had formed to
take the vessel from her officers and turn her into pi
rate The officers also to be murdered and believe
he said that he be appointed third officer board
he did not much into detail that time he afraid
of being by Mr. Spencer any OF the talking
to any Of the officers, and parculsCy Mr. Ganse
WORT He requested me to make the matter known
Mr. Gansevoort replied that soon as Mr. Gansevoort
came into the ward ROOM that would do my
room door when is nearly closes the entrance to
in close conversation with Mr.. Gansevoort re-
quested Mr. Wales to follow Mr. Gansevoort far the
steerage and after Mr. ansevoort had ward
to open the storeroom door, that he might APP
pear 10 be attending to duty believe he followed
my directions; then made the matter known to Mr.
Gansevoort believe that the channel of communities
ton that day between Mr. Gansevoort and MIR. Wales was
entirely through myself After conversation in the
ward-room in the morning. Mr.. Gansevoort ] believe
| went Immediately to Commander Mckenzie and made
the matter known to him. Throughout the greater part
Of that day. made the facts known Mr. Gansevoort as
they came to my recollection presumed that he CON-
municated all to the Commander.
| JUDGE ApvocArE.-What facts7
A-Those made known to me by Mr.. Wales. At
ing quarters the doctor and myself in the ward ROOM
when called deck, and Immediately afterwards
Commander Mckenzie ordered Mr. Spencer forward, and
said recollect that he understood that he
Mr. Spencer aspired to the command of that vessel
that he did not know how he to obtain that