The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-02-25

A-No sir.
Odd you ever talk Small or Cromwell about mutt
ny X or ss1i. .E the Dris'
Estate all you heard about the papers found Mr..
Spencer's locker.
Al never heard any thing about them until a,le,
Q-At the time of Mr.. spencers arrest did you hear
A-No. sir, not for days; heard no talk about Mr.
spencer's fighting with Mr. Thompson; did not hear any
talk of rescuing the prisoners.
JONAS HUMBER, examined by the accused.--I
BOARD the Somers her last cruiZe Saw Spencer
ask Cromwell he would like to have something to drink;
he replied he would on which Spencer went aft and
see II the officer OF the deck looking. He gave
Cromwell cup who drank its contents, and went for
ward Cromwell was asked by Mr. Spencer il it good
Cromwell said, yes. Another time saw them sitting on
the iorehatch-when Mr.. Spencer asked Cromwell what
Cromwell said he thought she'd make very good one as
she was last sailer but that il he had any thing to do
with her, he'd throw the launch overboard heard them
on another occasions when Mr. Rogers officer of the
and gave orders to haul the lee braces and square
the after yards neither Cromwell Mr. Spencer seemed
to take any notice oft The order repeated and then
they got up and attende to it, Alter they had down.
he Crc%ws said he wished the yards and braces were
he'd have some fun in the brig yet then Spencer sskcd
for chew oftobacco, which he got, and went aft
Q-Have you ever heard Spencer speak i'll Of the cap
A-Yes heard him say c. d the commander
9IHaye you heard any conversation with Spencer
Ayes he aske Mckee il he could cut out clothes
The remainder of the conversation fully reported
j
Q-Subsequen to the arrest OF Spencer, did you
any thing peculiar about Wilson the sail makers
A--No, sir.
Commander MCKENZIE here stated that the mutineers
OF the Somers had been taken away and made martyrs
and these boys in consequence afraid to testify they
ought to be pr missed the protection OF the Court.
JUDGE ADvocArE-Boy, are you afraid to testify
Boy, (blunly)-No, sir.
JUDGE ADvocATE-Well, do you know the me aning of
the word subsequently,!
BoY-Yss: before. II then explained to him, and
he said he had Wilson with dirk and that he told
witness to NEEDLE pith It, because it would his
hands Of Spencer. At another time he had heard him
curse the Commander for fogging him.
G. What was he fogged for
A. Striking boy.
@. lsWillson little or big
A. He is stout man. never heard him threaten the
crew
BY JuDcE ADvocArE-Wss Cromwell passionate man
A. Yes, sir.
G. Di he swear at men aud boys pretty hard ?
A. Yes, sir.
G. Has he not told you pretty often that he ,oould thrash
you?
A. Not as remember.
@. Were you afraid of him
A. No, sir.
G. Would you have been afraid to have gone into St.
Thomas with the prisoners Z
A. Yes, sir.
O. When Mr.. Spencer gave the liquor to Cromwell,
how long had you seen prisoners that morning.
A. He just came up out of the steerage
9. How long after before you saw Mr.. 8. again
A. Not before night.
Q. What part of the cruise was ~
A. After we left Madeira
@. How do you know that Mr.. S. was intoxicated
A. see it on him; his face red and he could
walk straight; he talked thick.
Q. Did he stagger much7
A. Ye sr it could not have been from the roll Of the
Atthis stage Of the examination the Court rose and ad.
journed.