Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-06-29

HousE or coSSoSs. May 90.
ARMS dRELANDD BILL.
,f Of he dsy for The second reading Of this bill

.s.d so,,.l.te and continue the laws now existence,
bs, which abon, 10 expire. The subject OF the pos
..on arms Ireland and of the importation Of arms
toto conny had been regulated by law Tor period OF
nearly hy years and they had been made the subject Of
''. ~, '' ~ s.an of arms lie fully admit,
ted the law which he was about TO propose was res
trsini the liberty of DIE subject lie did not wish TO
hr opipoas tina, point but at the same time
they must bare in mind great authorities had always
laid down. that the right Of carrying arms was only Tor
sedence the Of circumstances was
such Justify that state OF things, persons could not CON-
plain of the imposed by the law. Lord r. pro-
ccede the necessity Of the bl and detailed long
catalogue of horrible murders committed IN Naious paris oil
ireland with firearms. ,
Mr. s. CRAWFORD opposed the bill After dealing
with considerations Of more general nature he came
10 the repeal agitation which he supposed would be relied
ON ss main reason for the But that agitation
had lately been revived. England herself the cause OF
s breaking all her promises Of redress for Irish
evances lie friendly British connoxion, but even
might be purchased ut too dear rate This
bill dcgraton to the mags,racy and gentry. was
indeed founded precedents; but OF them had he
party and he felt himself therefore free TO move that
il should DC read n second time that day SIX months.
Lord CLEMENTS seconded Mr. S. Crawford's amend
ent lie regretted that il moderately worded for
would gladly have supported proposal that the sergeant
should be ordered kick the bill out OF those doors lie
thanked Lord Elliot, however, for having introduced the
proper shape; for in former years the course
had been bring continuation bill OF hall adozen
lines, whereas the abomnaon appeared entire on the
face the bill There OF measures neededtor
Ireland of which brought forward by govern
ment; tolls grand uries registrations manor courts and
ma
m would be enacted while the OF Ireland
was left hands Of the clerks in Dublin CASTLE The
present measure, If passed, would pass against the sense
of the majority OF the Irish menbers. Sir X Peel had de-
cared himself generally adverse extraordinary measures
coercn widening the breach between the higher and
lower classes, and weakening the efficacy oi the ordinary
law Now all these evils would be produced by the pre-
bill and mider would have effected all the
really legitimate objects of it. Since the 1892 there
had been period when Ireland so long without
conceive she had been There had been
which the Arms Act Suffered 10 expire, and TO
lac for three years together and she did
not find that those intervals all Ireland had been shot
Lord Clements, very length, went on through The
list OF the enacimons passed from time TO time Tor the pre-
seryaton OF the public peace IN Ireland, marking the CIR
under which each had been respectively pass
ed, its date and its duration; but IL difficult IN tins
maze find the clue OF The argument This bill he said
contained clause respecting the arms OF the Ieomanry
Cops. These corps, though they called themselves loyal
pgotesAns had refused TO give their arms Al the order OF
government when dsbanded They had since. IN many
cases. sold hands, and thus
that bill had come 10 be thought necessary
Mr.. SHE'LL condemned the measure. lie commended
speaking particularly of Tippeary with which he IS well
acquainted that the is, not Arms Bill, but less
impotent administration OF Justice Offences OF class
which prosecuted by the local solicitor before The ss
Baser have greatly decreased but at the AssiH the
prosecutions conducted by gentleman OF great ability
quite with local circumstances
aud with the witnesses; and hurried about from town 10
town. unable do otherwise than hastily prepare briefs
counsel: the other hand they met By counsel am
ply instructed by local solicitors, by whom every magma
BILE expedent for the Illustration OF the Crown IS employed
Another adequate prOtecuoD WITNESSES
employed by government but honest witnesses nave
no protection. Some years ago. the house OF person OF
the OF Crawford attacked, and he was beaten al
death: he afraid 10 prosecute: he lived IN The
neghbohood of Mr. She'll who obtained from the govern
undertaking that he and his family should be sent
10 one Of the colonies and should be provided for he
prevailed prosecute justice was DONE and most use
fu example made Again, the attendance Of Prote
aud Roman Catholics OF station and influence Peu
Jures should be enforced. Such means would be better
alan Arms Bill, for Arms Bill will not deter the
wretch who is not appalled, at murder and II murder be
lucrative he will easily eyade the law that deprves him OF
the more noisy implements OF his trade. But his main
objection To the bill was founded the distinction between
Ireland and England whcht established 'Repealthe union
the Heptachy" Thus exclaimed Geo. Canning and
stamped his foot he gave utterance to what he e
fsded comparison 10 absurdy which has been often
cited But that exclamation may be turned 10 account
different from that which applied Restore the Hep
Iarchy-IepeAl the Union. Good. But take up the map
ii England and mark the Saxon subdivisions into which
this your noble island once distributed; and then sup
pose that IN this assembly Of wise ments Imperial PaI
nentyou were 10 ordain there should be law in
what the kingdom Of Kent and another IN what
the kingdom OF Mercn; that Essex there should
be municipal franchise, and in Sussex there should be
another that among the East Angles there should be one
Parliamentary franchise and in Wesex there should be an
other; and that while through the rest OF the island the B
Of Rights should be regarded the invoae and invioube
charter Of British liberty. the the kingdom OF NoTthum
beriand Arms Bill, by which the elementary principles
of British freedom should be nought, should be
ted would you say that the restoration of the eParchy
could scarcely be preposterous Nor would the English
endure such O In 1919, English Army Bill,
comprised in single page; while Lord ELors bill was
whole volume Of coercion; the English act penalty
inflicted for the possession of under the Irish bill
an Ishman could be transported for for having
in his possession. Yet when the English bill Pro9os
ed Lord Grey entered strong protest against in the House
Oi Lords and in the House Of Commons Henry Brougham
NOT Lord BrOugham-asked il lac Englshman,
aad Offered up aspiration that the people would nse up ia
simultaneous revolt and sweep away the Government by
which great saenege upon the constitution had beenlePe
uated. What would he have sad-how would Lord Cas-
dereag have been blasted by the lightning and appalled, by
the thunder OF his eOquence If bill had been brought for
ward under which the blacksmts Of England should be
licensed under which the registry Of arms made DEEPEN
dent bench Of cHprcous Magseral partizans under
which Engshman might be transported for years.
for exercising the privilege secured TO him by the Bill Of
Rightsi Lord Eliot said that the originated with
the Wings: the Wings prepared Of coercion and
relief the Tories turned them out the Of relief
aud Of the Of coercion took conservative
Abiding Sir ROben Peel's OF the Queens NAME
Mr. Shelf read letter from Lord John Russell written by
command OF the Queen her accession TO the THRONE to
Lord Normandy approving OF his polcy and ho contrsed
the spectacle which Ireland presents with that which
lheno the contemplation of the Sovereign lie
cuded by eXhoring Sir Robert Peel follow in Ire
land the policy which he had pursued IN Canada
Me-. T. y. SMITH defended the
Mr. SHE'LL did not oppose the similar bill when 1t
introduced by Lord Morpcth and though DR. Hume did,
only one Irish member supported him. Remaking that the
year after the letter which Mr. She'll had read written
the Precursor Society formed in Dublin, Mr.. Smith
called for a definition Of "Jusice 10 Ireland" According
the claims OF the repeaers. includes "manbood sui
frage." abolition of the 1.-THE rentearge spoaonoi
the Established Church. "yiy Of tenure" transfer Of
the iee-simpe from the landlord occupying tenant,
abolition Of the Grand Jury cess, shortening O Panments,
aud eoniiseatlon Of the property Of absen'ees.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL took occasion compare the
policy OF the late Government and Of the present "No doubt
bill introduced in 1885 ia many respects smal oihe
present. aud continued in 1910 and lsil; but the whole
policy with which those bills connected different
The late Government had To deal with country which had
long been misgovemod-n which not only the laws, tut
she habits and opinions Of their administrators
with the maintenance Of ORDER aud with the social
happiness II the people. The change which be pro.
ducsd 90 be change inducing the people Of that
try confdc in the law for the redress Of their nurc
Such change-a change the most desirable IN elfwas
not 90 be effected by any single act Of the Legislature
by one or two, OF three years Of administration must be-
the work Of various measues-Oi considerable lapse Of
ume-o the greatest caution, and must add Oi be kind
est disposition Of those who nifusfed with the admin
straton Of the law IN Ireland Lord Normandy and Lord
morpet deemed their duty from time continue
che laws relative 10 the possession Of arms though they