The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-12-31


on by the Senate next Tuesday.
EENTY-EIGHTH CONGRESS-.
FIRST SEES SION.
House of Representatives.
WASHINGTON, Dec. ., 1S43.
prayers to-day, we had quite scene 1t
one time as if it was only preparatory to
nd COTE, or rather coffee and pistols. The
rk Herald was the cause of all the mis-
pLAcK, of Pa, asked leave, and the ndul-
the House, In regard to a matter which
not only himself, but the House. The
rk Herald, in its report of the proceedings
lay, had stated, that he held In his hands a
asking for a reduction of postage upon let
i that some gentleman had proposed it
be thrown into the fire !! No such PROPOSE
ever been made, that he had heard, nor
eported, had the subject been made a mat
iicule. If this report had been made with
increase the excitement on the subject
as he hoped 1t would signally fail in Its
be report furthermore stated that he had
not know what to do with the petition
kade no such statement, nor had he heard
bstlon to throw it into the fire. If he
10 the letter writer was, he might ask him
ct the errors, but as he did not, he must
hat he said on the occasion. He said he
introduce the petition to the House as II
addressed to it. He felt himself bound to
explanation, In case 1t had been In
to increase the already existing ex-
on the subject Of the right of petition
]. INGERsoLL had also to complain of the
of two papers; one had represented the
what he had said in the debate on the reso-
MIR. Hale relative to the navy, as sense
d MIR. Hale had spoken of it as useless
not collect exactly, 1t might be that Mr.
IS had used the last word and Mr.. Hale the
Doth gentlemen were forward to explain, al
tn they did not remember exactly what words
bad made use OF, as not having any intention
flying language. offensive to Mr.. Ingersoll. So
re up came off at last most amicably.
memorial of the negro, Jones, confined in
u of the district, and presented by Mr. Gid
now came up, and three mortal hours and
vere occupied on the subject of its reference
| to give you the debates en- ertenso, they
b occupy the entire of your valuable Journal
pust content myself with an epitome of them.
SAUNDERS, of Kentucky understood the petition to
mt this man as free person, committed to JAIL and
o be sold a slave-that he had been born free in
and prayed for redress, &C. If these allegations
Hrue, he had nothing more to do but prove them,
remedy was certain Mr.. Saunders stated the va
WIS OH the subject, showing the action to be had in
misses. Jones was looked upon a slave, from his
ut if any white freeman would make affidavit to
of his being born free, he could readily procure
l..
Ing no amendment. He suspected the man was a
)thsrwse there would be no difficulty in substan-
he facts. If born in Virginia, nothing to do but
ormation where; and upon producing an affidavit
thereof, he would be set at liberty; and even if
ID he afterwards proved he was freeman born, he
obtain his liberty again. A reasonable time
lways allowed to substantiate these. facts -
lew from experience there was no diff.
IN this matter, and cited a case that came
his own knowledge, in support of his position -
jIDDiNGs, in reply, commenced by stating that he
as guided by experience in desiring that the meme
referred to Select Committee. A precedent,
him out in the course he was pursuing, had &C.
IL years ago, when no excitement existed in this
on the subject. If the House thought fit to change
ton so as to refer the memorial ito the Judiciary
ttee, he had no objections-but he desired to see
use take some action on the subject. In regard to
barous laws enacted 1870 years ago, alluded to by
aunders) it, Of itself, was sufficient to show the
OF this, and that some alteration was required
zee people of this country were not to be borne
y barbarous laws made 100 years back 1t had been
people of this District did not desire the law abo
lie (Mr. GiddingS entertained very different opin
believed that nine out of ten, take men, women and
" would imperonsly demand its adjustment
consulted on the subject. In regard to the
Dptleman, (Nlr. 81 had not stated the point fair
persons of a certain complexion were liable to
might be by men who made money of the
Until they could prove that they were free
6re incarcerated and liable to be sold for
were they to do this. They could not go
" they were born free. In fact could mem.
y6dse do it. Even if proven that they were
ey were liable to be sold to pay Jail fees.
gERs then interposed, and said Mr. g. was
under the presumption OF being slave, but
ity of showing otherwise. He had only to
bst, and this was the common law Of the
ohgh Mr.. Giddings talked much about free
rolor, he (Mr S) understood there was law
which white people were Sold
INGs rejoiced there was no law in Ohio as first
|ep free people in Jail and then sold them to pay
les of doing so Put man in Jail charge him 100
opdt non inn ba Mt
monstrous, and he must call the attention of the
country to the fact 1t was needless to say the
III no control over the case. II could abolish the
O. They must do tor consent to share its odium
that we should interfere with their slavery, but
en- Of Ohio were not to be called upon to sustain
s law. No hands-of, maintain your slavery i
e. but they would wash their hands from the
pitude Of such law.
argELL OF y. g., rose TO correct an error In rea-
10 tne protection of freemen on this subject. dis
nished lawyer in this city had informed him, that
evidence existed to show that the men liable to be in
ed under this law free, there was no difficulty
l,curing their discharge A writ Of habeas CORFU,
M he issued and the person taken before any humane
Ee was ucient for the requirements OF justice. Blu
color was pra focie evidence Of slavery, as it mus
there slavery existed and the onus probandi remained
them to show the contrary.
|. r. d. DAWES made considerable Of speech, the gs
hich was to show, that the people Of the north wer
and could not be abolitoniss the contrary, he fol
would be the first to call for the dissolution of tn,
IN. il the south were to abolish slavery at once !
be done slowly and with view to the interests o
whole Union but to free the slaves Immediately
Id be TO cover the north with them FIJI their als poo
,es and depress the labor of their free men, rather thar
he would go for the dissolution of the Union Woul'
for referring the petition, but hoped Mr.. Gedding
Id SO modify it as to do away with the necessity o
ing for persons and papers Among other curious OPT
= which Mr. d. expressed, he took occasion to say
there were ten to aboltionists In the soutl
in the north. He had no doubt, there were nine hun
and ninety.nine out of every one thousand in thu
h that were not abolitionists. These announcement
seemed to excite the sheer OF scepcism on the par
e southern portion Of the House. Nevertheless, h,
Id discaim for his constituents nay for his State al
of interference with slavery.
r. PAYyr. of Ala objected to the discussion.
r. HAa.tsos OF Georgia, rose and spoke under great
tement. He said the people in the South knew the
stutional rights, and knowing, dare maintain them
ir fathers had fought for their institutions, and ha
ded them down as heretofore, while they knew how
,antain them There scarcely subject brough
no the House but the question Of slavery was dragge
It. The other day question OF reference, in re
10 the Navy this subject was brought up by the gen
zen from Massachusetts, and Ohio-and the latter ha
, that they wanted the Navy to protect their instu
s. No such thing. They did not want any protection
n Great Britain, or any other power. Thew abb
themselves against all the governments of tn
Id If were necessary. The militia of the countr
sufficient for this without any Home Squadron an
err squadren whatever The spirit Of their fathers still
naed the sons and they had fought for life proper
srs cd honor-so would they when occasion required
whssware he spoke under excitement, but he was
itsrn nan with Southern feelings and God forbid h
udNe filled with any other. The gentleman from Obi
roduoed resolution which required this House to in
re intothe judicaure OF the courts of the States
districbto go into an investigation without any
ace TO showits necessity-merely a negro in Jail i
District o. ONlumbia, The authorities suiicien
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