Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-09-14
VOLUME 30. NUMBER g..
IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF COMMONS. AuCrsr a

said that Government had no Intention Of ~ h
against professions: would expire next session and then
Government would consider the course TO be pursped. ~
thing could be more gratifying to Government ban th a.
eneo oi any necessity for itS renewal lie praised the for
oearance Of the Ulster Protestants strong termsl
Lord ELIOT moved the third reading OF tho A,,ns M.
pom which Lord CLEMENTS moved that II no rs,d .
ru une mat day SIX months; Capt BERNAL and Nr
DftNinG W supporting the amendment Mr. MONCK
10y li.Nf'o opposed az at the time telling Sir Ro
feeI that the support which the measure had me, With ~
not owing to the conviction that Arms Bills alone wcr. ne
cessary for Ireland
NJ. D'ISRAELI criticised the nos;,o, IS c. n
and said 81" ~ iee'
During the protracted period when Sir Rober, wa. in
Opposition he selected points upon which m. noc,
was 10 tufn-lrish municipal REFORM and the registration
OF lsh voters. After struggle Of many wears wb,,sys
mga be said about the Budget, he virtually entered Gov
eminent upon that question OF Ireland But the moment he
Wa IN Office, he fixed upon Lord Eliot as Secre,orv m L.
and that nobleman having taken most decided line of
poucy against Lord Stany's Registration Bill and Sir Ro
oeTt announced, not only that measure vould he mn,
sued out haIhe ana his colleagues had discovered ibe
were dlaneirlculy wrong the line they had ,nken nj
'ia NOSE VINO had quilted office correct fhe thought
me line he had taken IN Opposition WIS not one which
Munster OF TINS country should adopt, he acted as wise
ana puden statesman IN not adopting only a. regarded
py tose VINO were supporters OF the right honour
able gentleman were left in the urch. The ONLY course
open TO them the original prncins of the
perry oi "hen hey were members; and the PRINCIPLES
oil that party he could find hostility TO the Irish moo
pie was distinctive ingredient Of what was called Trr no
hcy Inc w hgs indeed who more than seventy veors
eoadeI III tins country, pursued Of policy hos
'.'O A.c hOlun OathOllcS OF Ireland
me roman Catholics claimed the support of the Tore,-
Nothing could be strange in the history of this com
y han that the gentlemen OF England the descendants Of
Tue CaVaers should be already advocates for governing Ire
land on the principles OF Roundheads lie believed b.
mere were dssensionsin the Cabinet there were dps
IN ali CaDln but IN the present instance they resulted
rom an lmbeclty OF the most remarkable nature Ireland
had arrived ut that state that required great man
10 nave recourse to great remedial measures You rnust
reofanze the Government and Government alone
oI' the whole social state OF Ireland No merely tempo
he of
II nc were TO use MARSH he should call the Arms
% as apphed TO the present state Of Ireland contemptb
tut the opposition TO 1t had also been conemptble ,
measures there which to introduce was dscrncefI
ana to oppose degrading On the Arms Bill he had btb.r
no vote one way or another, and he should continue
~ pursue 'e same course lie believed that time womb
come when party would be formed In this country op The
principle justice to Ireland, huaing before agitation
but 10y really putting end to that misery which Inc MI,
government had produced.
Cos WERNER expressed satisfaction at the praise which
Or Kobt Peel and the Duke OF Wellington had awarded
ue Ffo'esant OF lreland and hoped that when the pro-
per moment arrived Government would not be found want
ing IN ygor Among other proofs OF the necessity Of the
D ne stated that case Of buckhon.hlndled knives
without forks had been landed at Belfast -
Mir CHARLES BUTLER, arguing against tho ,ecoss;
" Tor an Arms Bill took Col Verners expectation of ~
SOu' as an indication OF tile spirit in which the bill womb
be enforced by subordinate officers in Ireland He I,bJ
al ine ColoneIs alarm about the knives: buck handled
KNIFE might be innocent in ITSELF but ouckhanSed 1t
without the fork was death: ~
Mr.. SMlIHE followed up Mr.. DIsrae,s o,,,cL. ,rJ
charged Sir Rob't Peel with saving ..Yop b.yo ~ ~
pursue any course except that which Ill entertain
M SHE'LL applied Sir Robert Pcel's remark sy,ins, IN.
Reform Bhl 10 the Arms Bul-ressance mIpht he nm,
alhg' Out would not be irutesS. He proceeded in
long speech characterized by his usual manner - 80,
tue measure lie contrasted the tranquility of Ireland under
ue "hlss-a tranquility which made up for the inabi,,
oil mat Government legislac for Ireland as they vod
win It's present staIe all the Catholics and their priesthood
cohledea'ed IN one struggle; and France aud America
sympathy The matter for wonder 10 Sir Roberr
reeI. TRENDS was the philosophical composuro which he
maintained 1--WE do not attribute this condpr, =, , fool;r
u aise security we rather attribute 10 dsincsaon IN
eu 10 he ADVICE OF pernIciOus councorSwho would bur
~ the night honourcble barOue into severe,
Or hooeI Feel knew, from his experience Of Ireland thar
coercion would only convert discomfort into dsatccton
MI shell appGuded the which Sir Robcr, had ma,
sued ouii he thought that the Repeal agitation wond b
sue oil lis o"naccOrd he was mistaken In England no suf
'naeas Of the influence ofthe Catholic priest
III MS remark led tOa description of the priest hs
popular origin stalwart energy Celtic temperomcnt sb
TIC accomplishments, aud iTrepruachabe morality Sci
was he e'ass' comprising 5000 individuals that English
pocy forced 10 be politicians. Mr. She'll rscnrnme15J
the granting OF gebehOuses and g.ebe.ands IN the Roman
CalCc c!e5Ry-aached TO the office and not to the indi
NcIa-and me building OF houses Of worship for the Irish
Ca'nOncs lie thought also that the Irish might derry,
through the Imperial Parliament some part Of the 9dvonag
winch ney expected from domestic Parliament: on all
Imperial questions the Minister must necessarily pbie L
the gross majority in the House, but on questions rcatn
eTetusirsy 10 the interests OF Ireland the Minister was
pound to take INTO the serious account the ounons of
/ the Majority OF Members Tor Ireland lie concluded HI,
suggesting Sir Peel that he should invite his true and sin
cee inends expound TO them the state Of Ireland and on
tain their govern Ireland on the snme rrirco
as at on which canada IS governed; or to break those
ues OF party those gaments which bound him 10 serytude
ana reverse what had been said OF Burke that horn for the
universe he gave himself up party.
Sir x. PEEL, acknowledging Mr.. Shells hsbtu,I e,
luence and the tone OF courtesy himself desired to sever
hc consideration Of the Arms Bill from that OF the gene
raj question OF Ireland. Mr. She'll had desired hin, 10
form 20 the feelings Of Irish Members on local matters
Now Mr. Shel himself had borne dntercsted testimony
10 the state Of Ireland when he proposed 10 compose
nal ures IN Ireland Of persons not EQUALS in rank Win M
offenders but supenorsa greater departure from const
u'na principles than an arms bill; and provide in the
Colonies asylum for witnesses against torture and death
hat picture OF society did that present Again. the
great objection 20 the Arms Bill. the distinction which
u ore" between two parts OF the empire; the offer had been
repeatedly made TO Ministers, that If they would simply re-
new the Aims 1911 Of 1910 opposition would be offered:
That b,howevcr, constituted separate law for reland;and
% separate law cXised-hc amented its nscessity-no
thing could be absurd than 10 make il efficient
lie then adycrcd 90 Mr.. Smyhe's remarks; explaining
that so far from approaching him with his vote against the
Arms Bill he had expressly told him. that his opinions
and his speech were adverse, would be more friendly q,
HoF'mnchtto give his vote against them lie knew
nnt parry connexions could exist without occasional
sacrifices Of opinions but Irish questions are an execution
ana parry considerations ought 20 influence men 10 sun
port an Arms Bill II they believed thata Government could
DC oiuud oeitcT 70 administer affairs IN Ireland they
muught mat the Arms Bill would be inrlicaci1us Mr.
Dlsrae also had expressed strong opinion upon what
ought 10 be the principles OF Government in Irish affairs
lCncs OF "lics gone " followed by much augher) "Some
great man. 10 seems, IS 10 arise with comprehensive
measures ,Laughc5) was n hopes that the hon. gem
teman was about % explain them and was looking for
some indication Of tho coming mau IN his explanation
.Laugnct) Butconsdcrng that the hon gentleman came
% the conclusion with respect the Arms Bill that upon
the whole, Is better give no vote at ALL am afraid
cannot infer that the hon. gentleman about 90 realize biz
vision Of great statesman. Cheers and auehtCrI The
speeches that had been made in the course Of this
discussion, convinced him how difficult for any
\ Minister wishing upon the whole 10 steer a safe
course between contcnding parties to do that which