Richmond daily Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1842-1861, 1843-05-30

Great Britain and other countries would be protected
eoTdng to the usagcs OF other Governments IN future.
lchcers Now these the points which Lord Ash
burton had settled. lie would 60 further into the
question at that but Lord Ashburton had obtain
cd tour disputed points-thc boundary, and he had OBJ
ined Tor us more extensive boundary than before whe
in military point OF view. afforded greater succcss
the Of the Caroline, the fulhment OF the treaty OF
Client by cNmbincd operation, and he had also obtained
law Congrcss which provided the future and preven-
ted persons involved in disputes with the two Govern
ments being handed local tribunals and placed them I'M
der the ordinary rules OF diplomacy The treaty which the
noble lord had negotiated with much advantage TO the in
tercs and with much respect the dignity OF the
try had been attacked by motions OF party nature and in
speeches which made the vehicles hurting,
er but open and unfoundcd ISLANDERS the noble lord,
aud these speeches and these ISLANDERS did proceed from
unknown individuals but from who had only recently
held the highest places IN her Maiesy's councils lie
thought the House and the country could sit silent under
the injustice, but they could meet this unjust attack wheth
er they had precedent for it not whether were IN the
usual course or not, with vote Ct APPRECIATION lie was
satisfied that the House aud the country would rejoice
an opportunity OF doing honor to the distinguished states
man by whose abilities and zeal the treaty had been nego
taied and the results he had referred had been brought
about. Loud ehccrs.l
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that from the termination
Of the noble lords speech, and from its 1t
might be supposed that in favor Of Lord Ashburtons
treaty, obtained by any would give them plea
sure. They had nothing for the treaty, and were
glad 10 get assistance something for Lord Ash
burton The noble lord had supported the treaty, but
he had been vehement against the unounded SANDERS
he said-unounded ISLANDERS of men who lately held high
places but the noble lord had these unounded ISLANDERS
pass by, till the honorable gentleman their help
who opposed altogether the dominion of this
her colonies and who had his correspondence
with the chief of the Canadian rebels spoke of their throw
ing oil the baneiu domination of the mother country. Un-
less this honorable gentleman had the help of this
noble loro and his colleagues, they would have allowed
their dear friend go without epnraon and but for
the correspondent Of Mr. Mackenzie the noble lord would
have allowed the session away, aSd have done
thing TO retrieve Lord AshbuOn honor relieve him from
the unfounded ISLANDERS which had been thrown him by
persons of high station. Here, hear.l That the
result OF the commencement and the end of the noble
lords speech The noble lord, II might have been eX
pected, would have made endcavor justify by
reference preccdenis this departure from ordinary
When proposition made - ask the House agree
something unusual, justification should be found for
that For me when the of Nooka Sound
brought before the house. and the House asked for
OPINION that motion submitted to the House by per-
sons closely connected with the administration OF the day.
In the OF Nooika Sound Earl Grey VINO then in
this House moved the adjournment OF the House, and that
course had been followed ON tins occasion by the gallant
member for Maylebone The honorable gentlemen, the
member for Monrose who had brought forward this mo-
ton, could find opposite precedent TO ust
~ his than the Of the three shers London who
burned No. Is OF the North Bi0R the Royal Exchange
The honorable gentleman have searched the Journals
mperecty he be very unacquuni.d with their
contents. There the OF the Earl 81. Vacenta
point but that had been referred The noble
lord complained OF his noble friend Lord Pa.melson and
his night honorable friend Mir Mncauuy that they had
made audacious speeches against proceedings
the negotiation. 1t the highest compliment paid
to any speeches delivered Parliament they should
nave Nl muhlug Government SCI aside MI
parliamentary peceden IN order yndcae Lord Ashbur
ton. Cheers
He conended that the right OF notsetted by this
question: the different interpretations put the subject,
in the United States and here showed. VIVA, said Mr.
Webster IN letter, dated longer ago than March 30
Mr. Webster said; "Suppose the merchant vessel be in
truth an American vessel, engaged in lawful commerce,
and she does choose be detained Suppose she rests
the visit What the consequence In those in which
the belgeenI night OF visit exists, resistance the
cis OF thar night IS regarded as just cause OF
both Of vessel and cargo Is that penalty what other
penalty be incurred by resistance
Or suppose be force gun returned gum
'and the commander of the his
be killed, what description OF offence will have been
'mtedl" That state OF circumstances full of per
IL might bring conflict from day day. He commended
too hnithe consequence OF the treaty TO make the Gov
ernmenis OF Europe which noble friend Lord Palmer
ston had impressed the prOplety of couceding night
search, disseminated with it, and had made very difficult
been stated that, the then Of the law the United
States, the Executive Government could Immediately
interfere. lie had remembered that when this subject had
been before discussed the honorable and learned
Bath had given apt illustration OF the of the case
when he mentioned that few years ago. before the wager
oy baue was dlsalowed, II would not have been in the
power Of the Crown have granted pardon. lie believed
that that the honorable and learned gentleman right
and that the manner the Government Of the United
States could have ineTfered that occasion. He be-
evod that the acquitn Mr. Mcleod did not prevent the
Government from urging upon Congress that general law
should be passed by which they might be able
peace with foreign State-Iha that Union should not be
broken by the act Of any State OF Union He
that question which he disposed through
much detail dwell much upon the intricate portions
OF it-he referred 10 the question Of the boundary. Now
with respect 10 that question: and after all that the noble
lord had said he that he very much disposed
10 agree in the statement OF his right honorable friend the
member for Edinburgh He did not know that he should
adopt the words but he thought that the mode which
the negotiations had been carried on and the manner par
tculaTy, IN which the boundary question had been nego
Iilcd, wee such as very likely and very much
calculated to lower the character Of this country the eyes
OF the world and his feeling was that they had that effect
Hear, hear His belief was that the mode IN which the
negotiations were carried and the concessions made
were such as tended lower the negotiations of this
try and TO make be believed that II foreign de-
sired 10 insist upon concessions from this country that they
then would find this country had not the means nor the sp
mt to refuse even unjust concession. Hear, hear He
would say with respect to the negotiations, that they
at perfect liberty 10 take the other. They
might take this coursc-propose that which reasonable
and which, though reasonable, they felt, for the sake
peace they might be disposed to conceded they might
once ake The course OF stating the terms beyond which
they would not 90, and thus once state their ultima
tum The the mode adopted usudliy-it was the
mode adopted by Mr. Webster for the Government Of
United States. The other mode the usual course:
but being at with China, Sir Henry Pottnger in
struccd IN his negotiations with China certain terms
and TO declare az the time that beyond them this
Try would notgo What had Lord Ashburton done Hehnd
mixed up the two modes Of proceeding, and the effect
injurious ord A-hburon first gave that which he proessed
to be MS Mmaum and then he yielded which he
had shown that this county ought have conceded
lie declared that 20 give up the Madawaska territory
only hardship, but he might say cruelty He declared
at cpncedng II would be abandonment Of the interests
Of those people and then h said that Lord Ashburton hiv.
ing made ms proposition IN such Terms should afterwards
have abandoned a. o abandoned which he said could
not be abandoned, and he sacrificed people whom he HIM
sen mud declared 1t would bo cruelty 20 yield. Hear
hcar lie had stated the fret night subject had been
discussed, although bis argument had been somewhat
msundefsi0Od that England did abaudoA the Msdawas
ka territory it should be from the obvious necessity that
the line OF the ST. Johns clear nycr boundary and
should be- 50 taken between England ond the United States
might have been justification 10 the people Of Ma
dowaska that however anxious her Majesty might be re-
tam them as subjects, su, 20 prevent collision between
e TWO c0unines' u was necessary retain the line
as boundary and, therefore, however painful 20 her
Majesty she WINS Obliged 70 abandon the territory which
hey resided. Hear hearl What had been the course
pus'cai hr webster told Lord Ashburton tliat
Necessary u give up the Mudawuska settlement aud that
the Vsr must be the boundary. Therefore was hst Lord
AshJurton not allowed cross he rvsr; bot then NJ
Webster, who would keep the retain Madawas.
ku, insisted another part Of the line that l. I'd Ashbr
ton should cross the er because too close 10 the
United States. Lord Ashburln neither g. keep the
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