The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1843-12-09

ma, an place Of John &. Calhoun. appeared and was
sworn into office,
ON motion. the Senate adjourned over to next
Monday, " NJ.
u j. expected that MIR. Benton will announce the
death OF Senator Linn.
House OF Representatives
TnURsDAY, Dec. Z. 1913
Election Of Priafsr 10 the Hoss--SY gcaaf az 1rms,
Sc-ATpoiHts,em of Commiffess-Nord fsa-
fue TOO 3ppo,HfnncU ~ tommufes oa Efecfions
-SPeakcrs Neat CoHfcaod-BS1J Adjournment
q the Hoss N Representatives, e..
The House Of Repre-e natives - making us way
fast into deeper and deeper confusion. The de-
bate on the motion 20 amend the journals OF the
day previous contained IN my report 81 yesterday,
and which was postponed until this morning. stands
now exactly where a did before; and the House
has adjourned until Monday next. leaving isi, MT
Barnard's Got New York; resolution. TO when the
famous protest was attached. undi-posed oi tat
though the protest found IL own way on ihe Jour
nab, and he wants nothing more)i -, The motion
Of Mr.. ChaPpell ii George, 90 amend me journal
OF tuesday, alter WHO'S day. ven Jssss' I"s.
made; and 81, Mr.. WIS., Cot NirEinia) curious
point Of order, raised and reported Yesterday,
by which be wishes 70 prove that the whole
proceeding Of placing that protest the lour-
nal was ana ifregulaufy which there T. nothing
90 prevent the llOuse going bach upon and
celebrating. When ~ - kepi IN view that, m the
meantime, the protest, whieh . the hrsS can-e q
all TINS confession. remsa- displayed ugon the pour
mails Of the iOuss, that the party who have drter-
mined TO cNpung~ ~ from the journals c0InIors the
great majority Of the iiouse, and thai all these
toIen un and d,'r,s.sa a,,rsh ~ N"ns.v morns
next, OF as soon thereafter the lloa-e feels dls-
posed 20 set it-elt IN order, u masf b. admitted
that the peoples representatives. have rii matters
open enough for the trSt week st any rate.
Ter he isfk al Id h suffF 80
tam JOINT resolutions from the senate we're agreed
Thereafter
MIR BlnSAHp Of n. " rose ami eallsi the of
the Chair TO the state Of the unfinished business liere
there were three four members up ~ the same tme)
Mr. BTARDsLEr OF y. VI move that the resolution,
TO the election OF printer upon which the Hoass adjourn
MIR. BaRN.np-Mr speaker-The motion 10 amend the
journal the debate upon which Was postponed uh tins
morning, ought to come mp frat. u l. REALLY
SPEAKER-The BUSINESS left unfinished at Adjournment
the previous day Is first in order.
Mr.. wmrE Of ky.-Do understand the Chair that .
moon.io amend the journals OF previous day stl pend
ing, does not take precedence
srrAKnR-The THAR is Of opinion itha, nothing can
ment the day previous
Mr.. wmrr-I am OF opinion that the chair error
in that opinion and that although with reluctance must
take the Judgment of the House upon IT,
sPEAKER-ls the House ready for the question-shall
the decision Of the chair be sustained
The and called for and taken, and the
decision OF the chair was sustained by vote al M ayes
IS noes.
OF the Journal to give time for the election Of Printer
to-day
Mr.. J. q. ADAMS presented a memorial from John NJ.
Bolts, of Virginia conestng the seat OF John w Jones
of Virginia which ordered TO be printed and referred
to the Committee on Elections.
Mr. NEWTON, OF Virginia, presented memorial from
VIM. l.. Goggin of Virginia. conesng the seat OF Thos
W. Gimer, of Virginia, which onered 10 he printed
with the accompanying documents and referred to the
Committee on Elections
Mr.. J. IseERsoLI of Pennsy lvania gave notice that
lie would at early day introduce bill ON the subject Of
MIR. MCKAY, of N. c.. then rose and renewed the sub
ec of his resolution of yesterday in regard TO the cleo
ton OF Printer with the amendment thereto by Mr. Gil
mer of Virginia.
The amendment read thus-Resolved That the printer
elected to do the work Of this House shall for the
whole OF the present Congress- unless shall be detemn
ed to separate the patronage Of the government from po
lca press, in which case the contract shall cease"
Mr.. CAMPBELL offs. c. objected TO this amendment lie
said that printer getting the work. would have go
TO great expense in purchasing materials &c. and this
amendment was carried perhaps in month or fortnight
after he was elected the government might arrange TO
take the work from him. and leave him with this dead
stock on his hand was injustice to the printer who
ever he might be- He submitted, that there any in
ention to establish separate press for the
work. it should be prospective in its operation and not in
coporated in any resolution to the election Of the print
or.
Mr. BARNARD, of New York. moved that the Printer be
elected for definite period 1t unjust towards any
printer who might be elected to make such stipulation,
and it was mexpedient for the House to do so.
Mr. GLMER of Val have no desire to do injustice or
that any printer should suffer loss. But the gentleman
from New York that he ought to be elected for def
mite period will suggest to the gentleman difhcnliy
that might by that mode which think will convince
him that it wouldn't work well. Suppose the printer is
elected for definite period that period arrives and
provision is made by law to separate the government
patronage from political press, the House without
printer. What | suggest think is fair enough. The
printer gets notice in the contract that such change
to the gentleman from South Carolina would say
that the printer has to exend nothing to enable him to do
the work except in the purchase OF materials for which
he would find ready market. am persuaded that the
would not permit these materials TO lay
dead weight on his hands act in any way SO that the
printer would incur loss. intend at early day to in
troduce measure on this subject.
Mr.. PARMESTER, of Mass.-There two cir.
cnmsances which force impression upon my mind adj
to that of the gentleman from Virginia / have
served in this House for three consecutive Congressional
terms and during that time, except in single instance,
have the House well served by the printer.
say that have been badly served and the House has
sustained great Inconvenience and the public great loss
II would be worse if the amendment of the gentleman
from Virginia was to prevail The printer would then
turn round in answer to every complaint why work was
done, and say, oh, do not know how long may be
your prner would be folly in to increase my stock
of materials when do not know that may not lose the
work in week-but if knew that would have the
work for the whole Congressional term then | would
make every provision" hope the gentleman from Vir
gina will withdraw his amendment If il is contem.
plated have separate establishment for the govern
ment work, let be prospective in its operation.
MIR. DIcKEy, Of Pa, offered amendment, which the
Chair pronounced not then in order
Mr.. DIcKEy then offered 1t by way of substitute and
it was read"Resoved That the Clerk be directed to
ceve proposals for the printing for this House. and that it
De gwen 10 the person VINO VIII do 1t at the least expense
to the government" In supporting his substitute Mr.
Dickey remarked upon the profits which the
printer had hitherto derived from the government work
One fact that might stare them that in 1910 the Har.
per Brothers, oil New York had offered to do the public
printing per less than it then paying for it.
He hoped gentlemen would consider that we were at
present four five millions deficient in revenue and
that heavy item of expense like this worthy of at
tentio.i.
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON of Tennessee objected to MIR.
Ickey's substitute 1t was an mpracticabe mode Of
getting the ork DONE 1t would tend only to create
fusion and instead of diminishing would ultimately in
crease the expense of the work He remarked that he
was authorised by Blair and Rves to state that Govern
would print one half much as they did last year.
they would do the work for 20 per cent less.
Mr. HENRY A. WISE said there a committed appoint
ed report upon this subject last Congress, and they
were unanimous in the opinion that If the government
were to establish printing press of its and appoint
government officer to superinend it, the work could be
done least per cent cheaper He considered the
worst plan in the world to set the work up for bid.
ders In one case we might get incompetent