The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-09-25

A-To Mr.. Bartelemy.
Q-Were they inserted in the booki
Al don't recollect ,L,
Q-wasit before or after the publication OF the book
Q-The four letters that had been sent by you Ma
dame Brunei and others were in your handwriting "'''
they noti
A.-Yes -, au
Odd Mr.. verren give you any reason Why he car
ed in his wife to copy these letters in your presence
Q-Dd hi. wife express any establishment in your pre-
scnce3
A-No
Odd it occur to you as singular that his wife made
the copyl
Q-TIas the thought ever crossed your mind why Ma
dame verrsn copied the letters7
Odd Mr.. Ysrren explain the reason why he advised
yop he mnsachios in preierencet sending the let
NO When he asked me to copy these letters, I
MAJ have promised to do it, not can't recollect; was
trghtenei; ! don't recolect
Q-Wnrn you made the first four copies OF the letters
sent to Niesrs La Forest, sc. you not horriedl
A-fss.
a.-wcre you not Mortified when you got the last let.
Al have forgotten.
o-Do you expect be pardoned if Mr. verren is con.
victed oi perjuTyl
A-No; do not know.
he deence here closed the prosecution their part
JoHs A rAsDE, one of the sons-in-aw of the French
Consul, sworn--The paper containing the four letters
handel witness who was desired TO see the
Translation in The pamphle was correct. He said he
couinot tell positively al nglt, account OF the inter
Ineaon but that ne had ma translation at the argu
men oil the other trial before the supreme Court which
was correct, and which was here before him.
The prosecution here stated that they would restthe
only evidence they desired being Chaubert the Fire King
who, they believed had LEFT the city TO avoid ,being
AHMED They asked privilege to introduce him if he
should return, which was refused
OoprS HosFMAS, Esq, opened the cause for the de-
fence, in an eloquent and able argument, in which he
stated that the had hardly presented evidence
enough put them on their defence but that they would
completely relnte every vesge of supposed guilt that
had been alleged against his client.
We regret that both time and room prevent writing
out his remarks in full.
PETER DANIEL FoKMEL.-Who I teach
French and Spanish; have been here several years
know ". Verren now was with De Bullion from Au
gust 1852 to s.o was very intimate with him he
every hour; he said he intended to write book to
pei him 10 leave his church and leave New New York
often repimanded De Bullion about the bad words he used
against Nerren he said that he intended to write book
lsaid that was very ba ) | said
Mr. Western here objected to the witnesses detailing
conversation between him and De Bullion.
question then arose as to whether DeBuon had said
his examination that he had not shown the papers
tanning the four letters to until he delivered them
to Barteemy and the court decided that he had said He
kept them a secret"
WITNESS continued-I asked De Bullion what material
he intended to introduce against Mr. Verren he said he
had great many and that he had anonymous letters in
the hand writing of Mr.. verren; he then went to his
trunk and took out copies, and said look at this"
which he said in his handwritiEg he said he had
written many letters to his vesry his family
and others
dispute arose again as to the admssibty of the evil
dence in which the prosecution frequently alluded to De
Bullion being a naked witness.
wirsr,s continued-De Bullion told me that he wrote
those letters and showed them to verren who he said
wicked enough TO take copy of them and regreng az
forwards what he had done; he went and took from
his house both the copy and the original and says he
"now what powerful arm | have p said despised
anonymous letters and he would be found out; have
plenty Of anony letters in my day; he told
leved unless respectable men, and win you call vaga-
bondsl he told me he would bring Chauber said All,
who would believe Chauber he said that Chaubert had
plenty OF money; he his scholar and he taught him
to read and write; said take care you will be like
house burnt his SONS; take care, it is not all
to bark behind a man, but you will be called before
court He said Bah what is to "a Proestan
bble and before Protestant court will have many
witnesses as II want )" made answer, the remark
shocked me- He was continually talking about Miss de
Ia Haye aud used every bad name against her in the
dictionary He said she drunkard and received
men in her room with her door closed.
(Witness was interrupted by Mr.. Westerly
Q. BY IlOFrMAs-Did De Bullion ever tell you that he
had used harsh words towards Madame de La Haye rela
tive to her obtaining his scholars
Objected to and argued by Hoffman and Barker, but
finally admitted by the Court.
Abe Bullion said that Mr. Verren hal been cold to
Linn and chat he had joined one OF his greatest enemies
Miss De La Hay and he believed that through them he
losing his scholars. | said it bad to condemn
who had been his beneiactor suspicion and
he replied that he should preach again unless he
woulj give him $500 that he could leave New York
Nearly every day heard Bartelemy De Bullion and Co
lon talk about the book they agreed to write book
publish il and send Mr. verren copy threatening to
publish il il he did not give several thousand dollars Co.
lon Bartelemy De Bullion and Chaubert present at
this time II he refused to give money they said they
would publish it. Here the paper containing the four
letters was shewn witnessD There were inerlinea
tons in them the time De Bullion showed them to
who said he had many letters OF Mr. Verren and he knew
his hand writing well that he could initiate it he
would detect hmsef he said he not his private
secretary but he had dictated letters to him he told
pie he his private secretary On the last trial found
Mr. Whiting and told him this same story never spoke
TO Eartelemy in presence OF De Bullion heard the
veraoE relative to the money being demanded but did
not speak TO any one.
Mr. HaTFn,s here offered prove that Bartelemy had
said that De Bullion had made affidavit relative to
Verren, he had him in his power and if he did
tthFoao in court, he would send him to state prison for
Inc covRr cvcrru!si it, and then adjourned to satur.
day morning.
SATURDAY MORNING.
BY MAEwcLt-Last night you stated that De Bullion
said thai lac had many letters OF yerren what did
he say ia relation 20 these letters
FoEAf-fIe said he could destroy verrens writing in
any letter and put any other letters over 1T but he did
not say hoS he could 10 ".
Q-when did You hear any conversation about the
boos, '''
Al ven, one day for Colon at Chauberts house;
found d. thcre-Oe Bullion Bartelemy Bacheer, Chau
bert and Coien.
Q-What was said there against verre1 on any other
charge.
Al went the of The house now the pharmacy
shop-Chaubert ssid you cannot succeed you have not
proof enough-you charge him with adultery"-he
then said Adultery, adultery, will bring witnesses TO
s~ ear o-a this time did not know Mr. Verren much
very fewwas not intimate with him had hoped to
defeat the matter with De Bullion-but when saw him
acquainted with Bsre!emy and Chaubert, gave up all
hopes.
Q-Dl you offer any money to De Bullion to suppress
the work
CrosseraminGiion BY BAaxER-Q.-What was the
of your furry last night
Al thought you intended to insult me-and am
old soldier and don't like be insultedI slept at Cham
bons last night of Reade and Church streets-I
went home with Mr. verren in company with several
others after the trial was over Mr.. Hoffman there
/ le.t the house of Mr. Hoffman, who was also there-I
wentto Mr. Yerren's hovse this morning about O'Clock
i did speak to him word about my testimony of
yesterdays friend of mine told me to keep cool
the stand and not be quite warm the night
siorc-no told that De Bullion had said that he
could destroy the hand writing of any person and
insert others he told me himself do not think
have alluded to my testimony in this trial for the
past four weeks, while in conversation with Mr.
Verren have not talked with either of his counsel nor
any body, to my testimony; have been about seven
years this country; soldier from 1903 to 1875
first under Napoleon-wssa voltigeur have been here
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