The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-01-06
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lie had been listening for some time To Try and find
out what We're the iacts ofthe case and what wRsihe
true question before The House
The SPEAKER saidi the gentleman from VIfgi
MIA (Alr Wse) would suspend his remarks for a mo-
nent, the Speaker would state the facts promising
that he would only ho governed in this case Ivy his
own recollection, and The state of facts az they appear
| ed ON the Journal
The gentleman foa Massachusei on a former
day had presented tins petition, and moved as The
Journal would show, that hc referred 10 scle1ttOm
mh.ee with Instructions Upon this question OF re-
ference with In.tructions debate was demanded iy
The gentleman from Georgia Mr. MeriwrihslD
which, by The rule, threw the question oy,r and n
has stood To this me. The gentleman from
Georgia now moved an amendment TO those u slruc-
tons Is moved 10y the gentleman FROM Ma Aachu-
ecils lllr Adans;) aud he gentleman ifom Mes.a-
causclts Nv raised the point ot ort,r ~hyther ihls
unlJ ndment could hc cciv,d he Sp,aker u,cidei
that j opsht TO he received
+ Mr. WISE said he thought that the amendment of
the gentleman from Georgia was wholly 'ut OF order,
aud ii the Speaker decided that il in order, he
| (Mr W. musi against the decision lie would
sooner vote for The original proposition Of the gentle
man fcIn Massachusetts, than for the amendment ct
the gentleman from Georgia In the first plsce II
wos out of order 1t was upon subiecl wholly dif-
tcrent iom that embraced ia the proposition u the
gentleman from Massachusetts. The geril,men from
! Mass1chusetts was aiming II what 10 repeal me
Els rue-to repeal a restriction ono par cular
subject naincd in the body OF the rules; that was
the least ard h. Mr., w abouiiu say tae last,
! of the gentlemrns propose ions 1t was 70 fo'se
committee the general subject OF slavery hele and
elsewhere And what did the gentieIoan from C"dr-
GA propose committee TO report general system
| vi rules.
The SPEAKER Do understood The gentleman
to epfeal from the decision ofthe Char
/ Mr.. WISE said no; he understood The genlleMan
from Massachusetts Mr. Adans) making point
OF order and he Mr. w was sustaining and second
ngil
The SPEAKER The gentleman from Massachu-
L.. II ~. tlt fl.tr
Mr. WISE. have not understood the Speaker
! as having vet decided
I The SPEAKER. The Chair has decided thv the
amendment of Tie gentleman from Georgia Mr. Meri
! weher) should Zee received.
| M, WISE appealed, then rem The decision The
amendment Il, HE first place was out OF order be
causrn not one oflhe prcpo tons contained in ii touch
cd the subject matter OF the proposition Of The gentle
man tiom Massa ,husetls.
| MIR ARNOLD inquired OF the Speaker what the
question w.s' Had an appeal be- n taken ?
= The SPEAKER replied in the affirmative
Mr.. WISE proceeded. lie conended that there
visal of the general system Of rules had nohngto do
with the proposition of the gentleman tIon Mas,achu
| What was the second point Of The gentenan from
Georgia The abolition OF the previous question
! He Mr. w had never been lis advocate; be had al
way wafIed against Il. Bu til re was one lnHG
which uss worse than the previous question
that . bieced in the lh,d point of tie genl ieuion
from Georgia II was the so itor Of the trvc1iom "
debate hc timing Of nien Ia The expression OF Their
scnAents. W hat had iqt to Do Nith the tuhec
cnprcrd IN the IfNp5sl0n Of the genuenan front
| Massachusetts, And The next pdi3t u The aea'ic
man from Georsa wa~ 70 depliye the minority Of the
| night OF speech IF Che pof asation of opinions 81
the expol ion Of oTnlun aud ~ The charges and
apses OF the Gov,rnn cllt when he tobnltt Of tbs
! Ntule on the stale oftAe Union.
lfthe Speaker could show thAl93.err was the least
coaay between Gather one OF these points and The
onr cnh-4c,d IA, the proposition of the gentleman
/ from I'm. h,4 Mr.. N.t hat
thu amendment was ia order Arc, iiitwcreIn order
ptNd, he wculd proceed now IL discuss tbs inerts
" ach one Of lese prop silions.
The. SPEAKER said il would not be ia order
Mir. WISE. Attic suggestion Of "a friend / win
draw my appeal from, the decision of the Chair, aud
mvve 10 lay the whole subject the table.
Mr.. ARNOLD inquired Of the Speaker if it was
! In order 10 move modification OF the proposition
The SPEAKER replied that it was moi in or
der.
| Mr.. ARNOLD expressed the hope that the gentle
man from Georgia s W tRe pls9cu.
question. With that modification, he [Mr. A y would
vote IN favor OF tho proposition
! The SPEAhEit said that ii the motion 10 lay on
the table should Le voted down, would be III the
power OF the gentleman from Ten 1ossee Mr. Arnold
himself to move an amendment such a, he had sue
Ecstrd
MI. ARNOLD repeated his suggestion to Mr.
Meri vethers
Mr., WISE called for the qutstion
Mir. ADAMS submitted 10 the Speaker that the
House had already Decided g lsy the qpe.-
non Il, the table, n
The SPEAKER Nj in Ills shape.
MIR ADAMS. Wrat is he difference in The
shaprl
Mr. WISE called for he question
Nj ADAMS said not YET lie Wished to g ON"
step further back
ati a wos h understood say, that he had not
understood the Speaker as deciding the Proposition Of
tie gcnt can from q, orgia 10 he ia order. And il +
the Speaker sad that he had decided, he (Mr "
wopd apfe4 FROM the deeis,on. Ihe Speaker had
san ne had d1ci,.td, but ne had not Leud cres to
order
Nj WISE hoped the Speaker voull demand orlei
The SPEAKER said there was no d iiculty be
,seen the gentleman from Massachusetts and the
Chair.
Mr. ADAMS. The Speaker said he had decided,
but he had not. certainly should have appealed in
staniy.
A conversation here arose, involving the state OF
facts, which was participated IN 10y McssrS WISE I
ADAMS, FILLMORE, WINTHROP, aud the
SPE. ,KER.
When Mr. AMES asked ,hc yeas and NAYS on
the motion of Mr.. Wise to lay the whole subject on
the tutle
An lthcy Were ordered
[ A message il writing received f,om the Pre-
sdeht of the United States, hy the hand, OF Robert
Tyler E,q, his S,crctary
Mr. BlDLACk called iur the reading Of the rro
position OF Mr., MeFiN cher which having been
read
The ques ion on the moi.n Of Mr. Wise was ia
ken and decided in the affirmative by the following
vote.
lEAs-Messrs. Landau w. Andrews, Anterior.
Barton, Beoson, Bdlack, Bovine, Boyd Brewster
Aaron v. Brown, Milton Brown, Charles Brown,
Burkt, $ II Butler, William Butler William O. !
BWl.f, Green NJ. Caldwell, Patrick c, Caldwell
John Campbell, NJ M b. Campbell Thomas j. Cani-
bell, Couhers Cary, Casey, Chapman. Gl0 3D.
Clinton, Co!ts, Darie, Garrett DAVIS, c,afd D.
Davis, Dawson, Dean Dobtrry Doan, D1g, st.
man, John c. Edwards Egb,9t, Ferris Charles A 4
Floyd, Torrance, Thomas F Fostcr, Gamble, G imcr
Goggin, William ., Goode, G. rlon Graham Green
GNn, Hahersham Harms John Hastings, uly. /
Holmes, Hopkins louck Houston, lIuhard, Hun.
A., Jack William G. Johnsnn Cav, I,brso, K.;,