The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-01-06
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After some conversation between Messrs. WISE
ARNOLD, and the SPEAKER, on point OF order
. Mr.. ARNOLD said, as il was the pleasure OF the
House, he would 30 now; and he should not lee
sighted If gentlemen did not remain and hear him
lie had been assailed he did not regard that, but hs
State had been assailed, and his constituents; and
which was the first Of all, his democratic consttu
ents were assailed by democratic member on this
hoor. He placed in the awkward position OF de-
Tending his democratic constituents from the attacks
OF one professedly democrat His democratic con-
ttuents had been stgmazed being neither able to
read nor write and If he were TO set by here and
not appear in defence OF them, might be said that
was owing TO his political bias, and that If they had
been Wings, he should have been foremost to defend
them This was Of the most powerful stmu-
lants to him TO reply TO the assast made by the gen.
tlemen from New Hampshire on his constituents.
lie knew no difference between his constituents on
this floor he represented them alike and when their
interests were attacked-when their reputation was
assailed, he held the reputation Of democrat who
was one of his constituents just sacred as the re-
puation Of Wing; there was no difference. He
thought that the gentleman from New Hampshire
if he might be permitted to Judge of so learned a
gentleman coming from so learned a State-had
been on this occasion exceedingly unfortunate---
| Mr.. BURKE here desired the floor, which, being
granted he understood to inquire of the gentle
man from Tennessee Mr.. Arnold whether his con
stituents Democrats that not able to read
| and write'
| Mr. ARNOLD said before he took his seat he
| would show that his Democratic constituents
| had as much learning as most Of the people IN New
| Hampshire When interrupted, he going on to
| say that he thought-if he might be permitted to
judge-that the gentleman from New Hampshire had
been exceedingly unfortunate this occasion, and TO
| remark that there was once an Irish orator. native
of Dublin, perhaps most distinguished citizen, by
the name of Edmund Burke and that there was also
Scotchman by the same surname, who was very DIS
tnguished in his day. He did not wish to trangress
the rules of this House, would he, II he could
possibly avoid it; but he would like to know from
which Of these distinguished citizens the gentleman
| from New Hampshire claimed his lineage r.
| Mr.. BURKE (again very indistinctly heard) was
understood to inquire whence the gentleman claimed
| his lineagc'
| Mr.. ARNOLD. That as real New Hampshire
trick. He regretted to the gentleman so sens-
tive lie must apply to him that stale remark,
"The galld jade winces,
| Her withers are well wrung
And they would be better wrung before he leh them.
] he gentleman lid not choose to answer, and he (Mr
A. therefore took II for granted from the course pur
sued by him this OCCASION that he claimed his lin.
eage from this Scotch Burke the "iesurre etionist,
whose profession was TO go about with bandt,i and
when they could not get fresh grave to OPEN they
took the living and clapped them into bag and that
was called '.burkng" them He supposed the gentle
man thought he would "Burke" him, Mr.. Al but IN
attempting TO Burke" him the gentleman had been
exceedingly unfortunate, and had "Burked his own
| friends had disintcrred of them, had raised or
rtsurrecttd a laugh one Of them. He Mr.. A.)
meant the dstinting pushed member of the Tennessee
! Legislature, Mr. Dew. He wished to show few
discrepancies ofh speech ofthe honorable gentleman
| from New Hampshire, and would begin with his dis
tinguished democratic friend in the tennessee Lee
| gislature.
Mr.. BOVINE called the gentleman from Tenncs-
see to order.
Mr.. ARNOLD said it too late in the day.
/ The SPEAKER requested the gentleman to state
| his point Of order
r. MIR. BOW NE understo Cd that the question was on
the motion reconsider the vote of yesterday and
what relation he asked have the remarks of the gen
tleman 10 this question How we're they german or
pertinent to the question IL they were not, he OBJ
lected to them he dignity of this House, well as
of the nation required that such de bate they had
had the main question, and was now attempted to
be continued, should be put an end to.
/ Mr.. BURKE appealed 10 the gentleman from New
York TO withdraw his point of order. He wished the
gentleman from Tennessee Mr.. Arncd) to be allow
ed to proceed
| Mr. STANLY said, if the gentleman from New
York (Alr Bowne) had been anxious to preserve the
dignity of this House and had come here week ago
for this purpose, hS MIR. S would have went with
him in it. Blu, the debate had gone in the widest
ranpe and the daI,i'sqttiths grossly assaulted and
now common justice decency, and the dignity Of this
House required that the gentleman should be allow cd
The same latitude, in reply TO what had b. said The
main question.
Mr.. BOW NE said, unfortunately he was not in The
House during great portion OF the debate what he
| had heard OF Al he had regretted to hear.
! The SPEAKER said hat strictly the debate was
not in order had been much of that allow ed the
main question. The debate had widcned out by de-
gees, and the Chair did consider himself after the
d, bate had gone FIR at liberty TO arrest il now
he question OF order had been raised some DAYS since
by the gentleman on his lett Mr. G. DAVIS and The
Chair had not at that time felt himself at liberty
TO arrest the debate SO wide range had been already
allowed 10y the House. As long as he remarks were
not personal, the Chair could not the debate
Mr. WIN. q. BUTLER appealed from the decision
of the Char, nnd called the yeas and nays the
appeal
Mr.. CARY, of Virginia, said the gentleman from
| New Hampshire had been order Ia his remarks !;
had been merely defending himself from an assault
made him in the Of the debate He protested
against the debate being allowed to go any further
aud hoped the dignity of the House would suppress
| such discussion.
| Mr. ARNOLD wished the gentleman had thought
of the dignity OF the House little earlier
Mr.. WISE inquired if he Chair had decided that
these remarks were not in order
| The SPEAKER Not strictly in order
Mr. WISE said during the organization Of thi.
House a latitude OF debate had been allowed greater
than usual; but the House, by the previous question
had cut Of the debate-the majority had already
arrested it. nd the question was raised entire
ly new whether such ate, wholly irrelevant and
| a vowed to he so, should be renewed again When
was it te stopl Ii the House let member rise and
r spond to remarks which had been made on the de-
bate of the main quc- Ion, others he permitted to
reply, ip all fan ness, and where were hey to stop
lie hoped the House would dispose OF tbs question of
| reference and let it stand where it was.
Mr.. GlLMER had understood the Chair to decide
that this debate was not in order, and inquired if be
W as mistake III this
The SPEAKER SAID h had decided that, strictly
speaking the debate was irrelevant, and would be out
OF order except Tor the indulgence that had been al
ready allowed by the House. The debate had been
permitted 10 take such latitude that the Chair now
ovcrruled the question of order
Mr.. GlLMER said when he arose he was under
the il preston that the Chair had decided that the
debate was Of order, anI Intending TO suggest
that the member could not proceed ithou leave of
the House; and that the question of eave would be
first in order, before the qu stion on the appeal