Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1842-09-01
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SECOND SESSION.
DEBATE ON THE REVENUE BILL.
In ruE HOUSE OF RErnEsENrArivEs,



The House being in Committee of tho Whole aud
having under consideration the Bill reported from the
Committee OF tho Judiciary "to supply u temporary de
feet or failure in the laws relating tho collection of
duties on imports, with Observation-Disclosures pending there
o--and Mr. ADAMS aud Mr.. CUSHING having addressed
the Committee
Mr. GRANGER said TINT when he came into the
Hall he had dct rmncd 10 take share whatever in the
discussion; but the gentleman from Massachusetts Mr.
Gushing had proceeded hut few minutes in reading
the committee lesson On the Legislative propreties oi
his House before he ronqnlsled that determinations
and as the gentleman had gone still further and had
derakcn To point out 10 the House and 10 the nation the
Inconsistency of Mr.. G's public COURSE he the more
GLADLY embraced the opportunity of addressing To thai no
norabc gentleman few words in reply.
But before he pooccdcd IN notice the remarks Of the
gentleman from Massachusetts. ms the gentleman from
Nirgnia. from the Accouac district. was now in his
place he would ask leave, after reading a paragraph
from the National Inlcgcnccr to put 10 that gentleman
question or two.
Mr. G. hero quoted the following from the ltegen
Ger of Saturday last:
Mr. W. said he know his friend from Kentucky
Mr.. Underwood did not mean 10 insult hun when he
asked whether tho President would sign the bill without
the land clansc2 But he should not answer that qnos
lion lie would put stop 10 this thlng nj once: he
should answer that question 10 no mans he regarded II
Insulting to the President. But there WAS member
that 1oor who bad it in his power say whether the
resdcn Justly CHARGED with seliishnoss aud amhl
Here MIR. WIS hour expired.
Mr. w WAS understood 10 refer 10 Mr.. GRANGER,
and admitted To Nr. G. that he did wherenpnn Mr. &.
said he should talk with him about il another time
All this he believed la he very correctly stated The
Reporter added that the hon had expired mud 50 II had
if that cNprcSei,n related To the hour nj the close Of
which the hill was 20 put TO the vote in committee hn
in point Of fact tn" gentleman from Virginia had spoken
but hulc half m hour when the time arrives, that
the bill was 10 como ont Of the committee. which no,
only cu Oh he Eencman's speech, hui all opportunity
To reply.
The statement he Ind read might To some gentlemen
seem unimporaut and So far IA respected any Use
which the gentleman from Virginia himself would de-
sire make Of it, to Mr. G's disadvantage. IL certainly
was So for he entertained fears that thai gentleman
would do any thing Of the kinds hul il vas due him
self aud 10 truth to guard against the wul msrepfo
ecntaton Of u corrupt and pcnsIoned press.
Now. although the gentleman from Kentucky
II MIR. Underwood was not 10 be permitted 10 ak
the coutcma1 from Virginia whether the President
would or would not sign n tariff bill without the
and distribution clause and although MIR. G.'s past
relations TO the Executive had been Of n somewhat
intimate character. still he took eNeeptionsio the zen
tIrman'5 having nado perSonn reference 10 him IN the
manner stated this report. That gentleman mnsf be
aware. however. that the paragraph susceptible Of
/ two different mcrcnces tho one heinz thai il miqh be
inferred that Mr. G. had advised the Presidential hank
yttoos of the called session. which he quite sure the
gentleman conld not intend. The gentleman might
would PROFOUND To him another inquiry.
Mr. WISE said he had rather wait and hear the whole
before he made reply
MIR. GRANGER resumed. The other query he
wanted to put to thc gentleman WA. whether he de
srDus Of questioning Inn 10 what passed IN relation
hose yetocs. ehcrn the Cabinet between hnand the
President personally? ltthc gentleman did present In
Mr &. such Inquiry, he trusted thai he should, in
answering his inquiries be eNoueralod from the blame
of breach Of Cabinet confidence. particularly as he had
FINN all Vi,aI ilrls aft Ia, ,nI
did not say whether he had any thing 10 state ilai
would have unpleasant bearing the President OF
not
Mr.. WISE. said he would reply 10 tho gcpeman's
questions with great pleasure; but he base his an
swcr the declaration that he had had intention at
all Of turning the insult which he refused mpnte to
his friend from Kentucky (Mr. Underwood) upon the
gentleman from New York.
Mr. GRANGER said he had not NJ understood the
gentleman.
Mr.. WISE went on to say that all wond Lear him
witness that, III reference 10 every doubtful question
which came up. there were gentlemen who not with n
view To information, nor even in spirit Of idleeurosty
hut with disposition To ioupt both the President aud
himself, ~ the habit OF putting TO hun ntorrogato
RIGS what the President would would not do, as
il he were the keeper OF the President conscience. In
pulsion of Ibis habit which he thought had gone quite far
enough hclIad said to thcgcneman from Kentucky
him { Mr. Undcrwood) that although he he
meant unlTcndly sense, he should answer que
res OF that kind to no man, as he considered them as
insulting both 10 the President and himself No longer
agu than yesterday friend had told linn that when
gentleman in addressing the committee had used these
words, ''Ii had WISE Administration had been
taunnaly remarked ''that we had WISE Admnlstra-
ton already" lie knew how these things would APP
pear thc world, and he therefore determined
put step 10 thcm--,nasnuch as he would not admit
that he had any control whatever the President Of
the United States. That individual had exhibited 10
the whole world and especially 10 the unreloning zen
tomcn OF the Wing party, how hard 1t 10 control
hlm. They had moderated the nan both As TO ability
and nerve. They had undcrraled---
Here Mr.. GRANGER said that he had yielded the
foo; for reply 10 his inquiries, but he could mol con
sent at the gentleman should avail hiuself of for
speech.
Mr.. WISE hoped the gentleman from New York
would be patient with him. lie never had sustained
such relation TO the President to know intimately
his Cabinet secrets He never had been in the Cabinet
closet with him, and he wished to put questions to
those who had. Some Of them. however-he did moi
allude TO the gentleman from New iork--had shown
sufficient disregard 10 those confidential relations which
ought ever to sutslst between a President and his
Cabinet lie should put ntorrogatoes TO the gentle
man from New York. He meant his remark for those
oflhe gentlemans feather. politically: he desired
that they should ask the gentleman from New York
whether from the intimacy which had subssed be
tween him and the President, he had any foundation to
believe the iutimation that the Executive founded the
whole course Of his public policy ON his selfish aspi
raoDs. lie had not inquired of the gentleman whether
such inlimaou were true false but he observed
that from the relations in which he had stood To the
President, he could answer if required olby those OF his
own party. Mr.. w hoped the gentleman now under