The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-01-06

Message Of the Governor OF Pennsylvania.
We received no message from Governor Porter
last night. Reasonable Senate of Pennsylvania
had not organized yesterday.
TWENTY-SEVENT CONGRESS-,
Second Session.
Senate.


Second sessien.
Senate.
TUESDAY, January, 1872.
AMEMeAS CITIZENS AT BRlrsH PENAL COLONIES.
Mr.. WMcHr presented petition from Buffalo,
praying an interference OF this government for the
release OF American citizens transported by the
British government TO Van Dieman's Land.
Various other petitions were presented by other
Senators, reports were made on private claims Sc.
veral bills of public interest were introduced and
| passed through their preliminary stages and som.
were read third time and passed. The remainder
OF the morning hour was consumed by discussion
on bills Tor revolutionary pensions.
FOURTH DAYS DEBATE ON THE New FuscALrrY
Mr.. Bates resumed the debate on this subject
lie said II was simple question OF reference of the
Sscretarys Report TO Select Committee, and he
had listened to the discussion which had grown out
Of it with great surprise, and what was unusual
with great pain. He saw possible good that
could result from It, on the contrary he nothing
but evil, unmlxed evil, and that too unmltgated,
by the consideration that there had been any sort
necessity for it; and il had filled him with despond-
| Tag apprehensions that nothing will DC done
this particular subject, which, OF all Others the
| country demanded of them that something should
| be done. With these views, therefore, he did no,
Nse for the purpose of entering into this debate;
his object was to prevent. and his wish not to
Aluce it. The report of the Secretary of the Urea
sary presents 10 Congress, In an ineligible form,
the views OF the President measure of vast in
| terest to the people of this couniry-which views
(subject, OF course, to the Limitation OF the Presl.
| dents known opinions Of the constitutional power
Of the governmenD, are concurred in by his Cabi-
net II assumed no tone OF dictaton to Congress;
ltarrogated M claim TO perfecuon, but it expressly
invited modification; and submitted at the call Of
| Congress, II was for Congress to adopt it, TO
change IT, or TO reject it at pleasure, and surely it
merited at the hands of Congress the most grave
passionate, impartial, and respectful attention. II
| might be al, right, or ii might be all wrong 1t
proposed plan bearing upon the deStinies Of this
naen, and was therefore entitled to consideration
and for he did not feel at liberty thus in advance
to commit himself either to its support its rejec
nsn. On this subject he wished to have all the
| light which the public mind and the public press
throw upon i, The wished to hear what practical bust
Hess men say OF and its operation, and above all he
| wished to see report from an intelligent selec
committee, and when the. proper time came he
trusted he should be as well prepared and prompt
| 70 act as any other Senator. His impression
strong that This Report, and the bill embraced in tine
report, would answer some good purpose, but when
they got the report Of the select committee, it might
tnrn out that in the bill there would be very little Of
Bank, and little of power to receive
to receive depostes or to issue notes bills or to
| deal in exchanges, that even some Of his friends
near him without doing violence TO their own feel.
ines, might be content to take it. In his judgment
therefore, the proper course to send TO a-commit
was strong that this report will answer come good
purpose. Bat this was not the time for him to ex
press his views in respect to it. II was to him Of
| no sort of consequence, what the scholar or the
critic here, or elsewhere may say; ii the power
were given to him to make the report he should not
| care what they said, The report was before the
Senate and before the world, and the report speaks
| tor itself, and that was enough The county re-
quired that thing should be done for it's relief
| And what was it The President had proposed his
plan through his Secretary-the Senate on the other
side, had proposed their substitute Sub-Treasu.
ry,-and what was proposed by his friends Che
| whigs) on the other side! What was the measure
Of relief which they propose substitute, fer the
one proposed by the Secretary Of the Treasury un-
der the direction OF the President None at all.
He took it for granted, that Bsnk of Discount
/ out of the question for some years at east;
| and if this were not taken as the ba,is
of some measure by Congress, he asked
for six months more less and do nothing on this
subjects The responsibility Of Senator of the
United States, at the present crsls, was appalling,
and he felt oppressed by it to a sadness OF heart
Something must be done for the reliet of the coun-
try, or least attempt must be made to do some
thisg and would they allow him to tell them what
in hisjndgment the country requires at their hands!
In the first place the country demanded, # he might
be permitted. to use the language of his friend from
by-goness be by,,gones The evil Of the day had
felt in every fibre. What was passed was history,
| they could neither re-enact nor recall it !;
| the scroll was rolled up for the future But
the country demanded another thing at their
| hands 1t demanded the exercise of an elevated
| patrio,ism-tha, they SHOULD sink themselves and
sacrifice themselves iineed be for lis good. But the
country demanded another thing; il demanded not
oniy that they should act bat that they should act
uniiedy 1t was not for hun, so fresh in that place,
TO act the part OF an adviser but this debate he
ceived to be out of time and place, and he hoped
they would hear no further denuncations until a
more suitable time came. Ii might be that they
should not be able to achieve any thing; he had
great doubts that they should not but he for the
trial; for on his life the country would sustain them
if they attained the best and the most attanable
thing under The circumstances of the case. And if
il was found with the lights OF experience that IL
CURED ii, they could amend it. For one he was
not content TO put all at hazard upon the chance of
wears, or Of Sub Treasury, with the con.
i1gency of having neither. He was for at
tempting now to accomplish their object, with the
limitations row prescribe, and give hm Lea leave , to
tie course they might pursue IN relation to the mat
ter under consideration. He believed if they acted
with an honest PURPOSE, the people would sustain
them; and If they did not act thus he believed the
people would cast them off. Such were his views
or this subject be they right or wrong, and without
going into the subject at all, he fer the purpose
ct addressing these views, IN this summary way to
the Senate, let them avail what they would and hav-
irg done il, he had accomplished his purpose
Mr.. BARKow expressed his abhouencs Of the plan
proposed by the President. He said he had not
read through two pages OF 1t before he threw "
down, his cheek burning with Indignation He
knew no, how any man could be alarmed, rs the
President protested to be, al a Bank Of the United
States aud vet recommended and advocate this
pons'er-it was 10 him astonishing. A Bank Of the
! United States was lnnoxious compared with this 81
yanc government Bank. In England, when the
} ministry had favortc measure, which met with
the dsapprobaon of the people, they resigned their
places; and he thought the cabinet here ought to
resign; he would not say the President, aso for that
world be revolutionary. And # the cabinet would
! resign, he would consent 10 take them again int
the wing church, provided they resigned within The
time this plan fixed for bill NJ exchange TO run
, and that was thirty days (Laughler). As an sdvo.
cate Of State Banks he was opposed to the scheme
In one OF his yeto messages the President spoke OF
r his conscience Nnd of Constitutional scruples now
, he (ldr. Barrow) always looked with suspicion
political man whe appealed 10 moral obligations
} What had Feligon TO do with the discharge 81
thu duties of the Execatvel (Slight lac ghter
, The Constitution and the Laws the Exc
| cuiivr'a Rihle. SO Ter as his duty con.