Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1842-12-15

nttees Ind been appointed, and this was short ses
sion, he would move that the Presidents Message os
| taken up for 7, eerence.
Mr. ADAMS objected; the business IN order ocine
his resolution 10 rcscind The Glst rule, on which, io
three nrevous DAYS of the session. the House had re
fused 10 order the main question.
Mr. FILLMORE urged the necessity OF referring
the Presidents Message and observed that The resou
ton of The gentleman from Massachusetts, would come
up IS hen the message was disposed OIL
Mr.. ADAMS persisted in his objection.
Mr. WM COST JOHNSON said, if the resolu
ton of the gentleman from Massachusetts was thus
obsruct the public business, he would move that II bs
laid upon the table
Mr. CAVE JOHNSON called for the yeas and nnys
which being ordered resulted-yeas LOG, nays lO2, a.
follows
leas-Messrs. landau w Andrews, Arlington
Atherton, Barton, Beeson, Bidlack, Black, Bovine
Boyd, Milton Brown, Charles Brown. Burke, William
Butler William o. Butler, Green w. CALDWELL Ia
trick c. Caldwell John Campbell, VIM. b. Campbell
Thomas }. Campbell, Caruhers, Cary, Casey, Clifford
Clinton Mark A. Cooper, Cross, Daniel Dean, Deber
ry, Doan, Eastman, John c. Edwards, Chas A Floyd
Torrance, Gamble, Gerry, Giliner Gogg'n, William
o. Goode, Harris, Hastings, Hays, Holmes, Hopkins
Houck Houston, Hubbard, Charles J. lngersoll, Jack
William Cost johnson, Cave Johnson, John w. Jones
Isaac D. Jones, Kem, Abraham Mcclellan, Mckay
Mallory, Marchand, Thomas F. Marshall, Mathews
Medl, tleriwe,her, Miller Mitchell, Moore, Newlard
ell, Rayner, Reding, Renchcr, Reynolds, Riggs, Ro
gers, Saunders, Shaw, Shcrperd William smith, Sny
der Sellers, Sprgg, S,eenrod, Summers, Sumter
Sweeney, TaIiaierro John b. Thompson, Jacob ,ihomp
son, Trplett, Turney, Van Buren,, Ward, Warren
Washingion Wu,,crson, Weller, Wes,brook, Christie
pher H. Williams, JosephL. Williams, Wise and Wood
-1GG.
.Naus -Ncssrs. Adams, Allen, Sherlock J. Andrews
Arnold, Aycrigg, Bnbcock, Baker, Barnard, Brdseye
Blair, Boardman, Borden, Bolts, Brewster, Briggs
4 DrAn n
houn, Chit,enden, j. C. Clark, S,aley N Clark, Jas
Cooper, Cowen, Cranston, Cravens, Gushing, Garrel
| Davis, r D. Davis, Doig, John Edwards, Ecbert
Everett, Ferris, Fessenden Fillmore, John G. Floyd
A. Lawrence Foster, Gates, Gddlngs, Patrick U
Goude, Gordon, Granger Hall, llalsted, Henry,
| Howard, Hudson, Iun,, Joseph r. lnrersoll, James
! Irwin, w. W. Irwin, James, John p. Kennedy, An
drew Kennedy, Lave, Linn. Littcfeld, Lowell, X
Mcclellan, McKennan, Mckeon, Alfred hiarsnal',
Samson Mason, Maihiot Mattocks, Maxwell, May
nard, Morgan, Morris, Morrow Osborne, ls,hehaes
Partridge, Pcnd!eton, Ramsey, Benj. Randall, Read
Ridgwoy, Rodney, Roosevelt, William Russell, James
NJ Russell, Salonsail, Slade, Truman Smith, Stanly
Slokely, Strat,on, Alexander II. II Stuart, Richard
w. Thompson, 1rll,nehas,, Toland, Tomlinson, lrnm
bull Van Rensselaer,, Wallace, JOS l.. Whiie, "n
throp, Yorke and John Young-l02
The resolution was, therefore, laid on the table
THE PRESIDENTS MEssAGE-THE EXcTiEocER
MIR FILLMORE submitted the motion when ne
had before minated his eesre TO offer 1t was IN Inc
following terms
Rfsoired That so much of The Presidents annual
message and accompanying documents as relates 10 eui
intercourse with foreign nations, be referred 70 lhe
Committee on Foreign Affairs
That so much thereof relates to the treasury ano
financial concerns of the Government, including the
EJcheqncr plan and the Tariff, be referred 20 INC Ioh
nttee of Ways end Means.
That SO much thereof as relates TO the "arehousihe
svs,em be referred TO the Committee on Commerce
Thu, so much thereof relates 10 The army anu mi
!inrv Gefrncss of the country, te referIco 10 Tue oi
mttee on Military Affairs
That so much thereof as relates to the pubic lahos
be referred 10 The Committee on Public Lanes
That so much thereof relates TO the navy and ma
RHINE delences Of The country be referred 10 the Com
mtee Naval Affairs.
That so much there Of as relates TO the Post Cice
Department, be referred to the Committee on the Post
Office and Post Roads
That so much thereof as relates 10 The rcmbursing
f! fine imposed on General Jackson al New Orleans, he
referred 10 the Committee on the Judiciary
Mr. PICkENS suggested TO the gentleman from ~
York the propre,y Of amending his resolul,nn so as 10
move that the House 90 into Committee OF the Hhoie
the Presidents message. pracilce had grown up
which had subvered the old order OF things; but nc
hoped the Chairman of the Committee OF ways and
Means would take such steps would bring the House
back to the good old Republican custom OF responding
10 the Presidents message.
Mr. FILLMORE said the reason why he had not
moved 10 10 into Committee of the Whole on The stale
|
the experience Of The last few years had shown that
such course was only large portion oil Inc
time of the session with debate resulting IN ho'hns'
For two three sessions the President message was
referred to the Committee of the Whole on The Stale
OF the Union and he believed at one OF chose sessons
the message never came ofthe committee, and was
not referred 10 the standing committees Tor le cohs'-
deraton. In consequence at the last session Inc meg
cage taken up the House, and referred 10 ihe
committees. The utility of that course was lett at hat
ilme when they were commencing long session. 0u'
the prcpriey of it, he thought, was much greater now,
when they commencing short session.
Mr.. PICKENS said the experience OF the House was
directly against the motion OF The Chairman CT TIE
Committee of Ways and Means. If they agreed 10
motion TO 90 into Committee of the Whole The object
would be general discussion which must take place
OH some question; and, if il took place now, at an early
period Of the session. the House would be then prepared
for efficient legislation. 1t was well know tnsl hata y
any business done before The hoydays ana
therefore, if the Presidents message were now referred
TO the Committee Of tile Whole, gentlemen could ex
press their views in defence Oh reply to- the topics
of the message and the House would bc then ready
for business This course, it must be obvious, would
expedite the public business He thought this was The
more appropriate mode, and that the Chairman OF me
Committee of Ways and Means would find ITS adoption
the best policy.
Mr. W. c. JOHNSON said, as this was 10 be short
session. would be better 10 refer the different portions
OF the message to The committees; and those members
OF the House who desired 10 MAKE speeches. upon
would have time to mature their views aud the discus
sion would then be interesting. If, however, there
were any gentlemen that would rise on that floor and
say they were anxious 10 60 into discussion OF the
message generally, he, for far as his vote would
60, would 60 against the previous question; but, II
there was no gentleman ANXIOUS 10 60 mo such cis-
CUSTOM he (Mr Johnson would vote Tor the proposition
of the chairman Of The Committee Of Ways and Means
considering it the wscst TO pursue, especially al
sho: session
Mr. GUSHING inquired if there vas my, and what
disposition TO be made Of that part of the message re-
spec,ing the proposed amendment of The laws relating
TO the Treasury Department.
! Mr FILLMORE said there was, and that ii was pro
posed refer that portion of the message 10 the Com
miee Of Ways ard Means.
| Mr. CUSHING said he should propose that TINT por
ton of The message be referred 10 The Committee of the
Whole the state Of the Union; and his reason wus
that BY the rules OF the House. the bills Of The last ses
SIGN continued this and Tint amongst those bills
the re was one on the calendar this very subject HIS