The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-09-09
YORK HERALD.
-, YorA. Friday. september 0, Is4a.


article containing more apologies and explanations
OF the conduct of the committee on the Ashburtoh
Dinner, which in respects sets the matter III "
new point Of view; but which, as an apology Is oh'
of the most remarkable and extraordinary we ever
saw, and as such we give it,
THE AsHBuRroS DfNNER.-Notwithstanah tne eAPa
nations which have been male in regard 70 IA presi
Ashburon dinner BY which the TOAST 10 tS
deu OF the United States was drunk IA ' II, W. H @
tothe Queen Of England was responded w mr. n
nation i not sisf,ctory and that there must have been
premedtatel design to Insult me hao IN the Persoh %
It's President One paper desires list OF the names oil
those who were present the dinner, that all true Amer
80 - O., Sno,r ana mark Them We have before ex-
pressed our belief founded upon evidence which to
entirely satisfactory that so far from the occurrence hay
ing premeitaed by the committee of arrangements
none deeply regretted than themselves and to
none Il unexpected. Some members of the
COMMITTEES have stated this fact substantially under their
in general any in fault than the committee.
Probably every man present except the editor OF the
Americans would have been ready to cheer the Presi-
den Of the United States if the IgnGl had been given
for might fairly be questioned whether the cheers would
the once ITSELF as representing the sovereignty oil the ma
ton Aud further it not likely that any considerable
portion oil ne company were SO crazy with politics. as 10
the presence of foreigners and the representatives OF
foreign Court Il takes time get up steam such
an OCCASION and the toast to the President being the first
one giyep, it had the worst chance.
We think enough has been said about this little affair,
both by oursev and others. IT. however any more in.
dgnaton is 20 be poured out it may well be directed
against those and which maintain that the
charged ustifabe and not against the
mittee anil others who openly condemned that corrse
According 20 this, part of the committee through
this journal, admit that their conduct was grossly
wrong, but Cndeavor TO mend the matter by saying
that 1t was accidental Well take this view of the
case, upon their own showing, and what does il
amount 10 1t shows that these utterly
ignorant OF the manners of gentlemen ii shows
that they are utterly ignorant of customs of
spectacle society it shows that they utterly ig
norant of every thing necessary to be done such
occasion the late dinner They acciden-
tai gentemen-possessed of accidental manners,
and accidental principles
Yet these the men who call themselves
Il" merchant prnees''-who arogate to themselves
the possession of all the responsibility good breed
ing, knowledge, practice, habits, and manners of
gentlemen, that can be found in the city and upon
The strength of this impudent assumption, claim to
be the exclusive leaders of 6 good society" At the
time they acted with brutality, an ignorance,
and presumption, that never paralelled giving
the sole for their disgracetul conduct,
that it was purely " accidental"
This apology is the very worst that has yet been
given and at the same time it does not cover the
ground-the great point in issue. This Is merely
eXplauation-and sorry one-of their conduct
committee to say of the songl What apology or
explanation do they intend to put forth this
point What does Stephen Whitney say TO that
song What opinion has Cornelius w Lawrence
of the sentiments in that song How long would
James Lee like to see Great Britain act as " Queen
of the Sea :" Does William B. Astor endorse the
chorus of that song Would George Grswold de-
sire to see the assertions in that song put into full
force the high seas How could Benjamin l..
Swan sit patiently and sing the sentiments in that
song Did not Robert B. Mnturns better judy
ment tell him that the introduction of thar song
that dinner great national insult Probably
James G.. King, from his habits and associations,
might have felt perfectly satisfied with the song
but how could James Depeyser Ogden, President
OF the Chamber OF Commerce, assist In singing
song that insult to the whole country, and to
this commercial community in particular?
Was that song intended las it appears to have BEEN
for commentary the treaty! Is the chorus
truth or a lie Z Is the empire of the given up
by usl Do we indeed hereafter intend to allow
Great Britain to rule with queenly sway over the
ocean Are all the glorious victories and brilliant
achievements of our young but gallant navy, during
the last war; go for nothing Isit for this that De-
catur, cambridge, Perry, Hull, Stewart and dozens
OF others, fought, bled and conquered foe that
up to their day indeed nvincibe upon the sea =!
Has 1t at last to this, that sit submissvely
at the foot stool of Great Britain, toss up our caps
and proclaim with glee that hereafter she shall be
what she has always arrogantly claimed to be,
"Queen of the Ocean," the High Police of the
Sea 2"
If the song means any thing such is its meaning
# the toast is said to be accidental affair." such
was not the case with the song 1t was deliberate
F,,h
in God, the holy Mr.. Muhenbutgh-it was imbued
with the principles of those twas sung with
loud eclat by these Merchant Princess in the pre-
ofthe high and special representative of THAT
called Queen of the Ocean," preceded by prayer
from the Rev DR.. Potts, who was present through
the whole of it, and invoked the blessings of Hea-
ven on this Interpretation of the treaty
This is no little affair, as the Journal calls II. II
is a most important matter. From the egg to the
apple, ''dL QUO usqpe maLa,' it nothing bat
ries of gross insults offered to The American people
and their government in order TO toady to the repre-
sentative of the British Government then at that
table.
The fact is that the whole thing was got up by a
set of impudent and ignorant financiers, who have
speculatlons OH foot, and hopes and ends of their
own to accomplish and obtain, which they thought
could be best effected by thus depreciating their own
country and extoling the government of this titled
tinancier and money-lendng lord 1t was a mere
stock-iobbing operation in which they alone were
conered A miserable trick-a juggle In which
they attempted to sacrifice the proud name and the
Independence of the people of this country for the
most patry and mercenary of purposes.
We again call upon the committee for further ex-
planauons-and the American people and the Ame-
mean press for further commentary. Come, thun-
der and ighnng, come.
That ToAsr-THREE CHEERs.-Charles King
denies that he got up and proposed the cheers to
Queen Victoria" We never heard it asserted that