New-York daily tribune., 1842-12-31
wHoLE no. $50.


| broush. me TO this ," Commander Mackenzi
said TO Small Don't go on, of the world with az
| hard feelings ar your hsar,-fergive him. Sua
replied .' Sisce YOU request II, sir. forgive HIM
! Small! shenbade Lieut. Gensevoort farewell. Com
nander Mackenzie said "Srnali, what have yo'
against me rha. YOU viii not shake hands with u1t
and bid ne good byefn Small said, g Nothing
sir, ONLY did no, think that you would shake
hands with poorfellow ike me and bid him seot
bye He reached out his hand, shook thas o
Commander Mackenzie very cordially and bade
him farewell heard Small say, looking up &c
the flag, .sGod bless that fsg!" He was then I'D
dressing his shipmates having asked permission &c
do so of the Commander which had readily been
granted him. cannot rccollect the words Of his
sddress though heard him warn them from bis
fate; and heard him say thar his sentence rgh!
and iuss, and that it wa. right that he should die.
He then looked up and said 's God bless that flag -
and asked Mr. Spencer if he ready TO die
ssving 81 am" Spencer made no reply ar all
He had permission to give the order TO FIRE the
signal gun, bur waited some time. not being able
to do 40.
Previous to this Commander Mackenzie told ne
that Spencer wished 70 speak with me. went up
TO him, and he said 10 me. :" Mr.. Wales sincere
y hope that you will forgive me for tanper2g with
your fidelity. Commander Mackenzie was stand.
ing BY his siie--T replied that | did, and hoped
that God would forgive him. He then shook my
hand and said farewell had no other conversa-
ton with either Of them.
While we were at Mesurado. going ashore in
the boat, on the llth of November, Spencer was
officer of the boat, and was with him. believe
Mr.. Rogers also in the boat, though am not
sure. The Commander had told Spencer before
he got into the boat that ne was not IN uniform
He was iSsr going into the boat as this was said.
He muttered some reply, but could not hear what
it was. After we had get some 30 or 80 yards
from the Brig the Captain hailed US and asked if
we had the American ensign in the boat. Spencer
replied that he had not got it, and added, (not,
however, so tho Captain could hear) that he d
"be Cd Id if he was going back afier ii either,
for the id old humbrg. Go to h-ll.' He con-
tnued cursing all the way to shore-though can
not call to mind the particular expressions that he
nsed. think Mckinley was in the boat, and
Golding also--though | am not sure. This was
the second cutter. This was all that took place
at that time Spencer's remarks seemed to please
the crew.
About two weeks before the revelation Of the
mutiny was made, while bound from Mesurado to
st. Thomas, Mr.. Spencer having the watch on
deck, (,hough do not recol!sct the day the
place of the vcssel,) Mr. Rogers sung our to let
90 some brace. Spencer was talking with Crom-
well, (who was boatswai,.s mate of tho watch,
and soma others of the crew None of them paid
any attention to the order. MIR. Rogers called
out again and again. They paid no attention,
Mr. Rogers then came forward and gave the or
der himself ( was forward standing by the Jacobs
ladder They were as near Mr.. Rogers as | was
and could hear rs well.) Capt. Mackenzie, whe
was on deck, noticed it, and sent for Spencer tc
come aft. I did not hear the conversation betweer
them, but when Spencer came forward be was nut
tering curses against the Commander. asked
him: Spencer, what's the matter7" Said. he
:" the Commander says that DONE pay attention
to my duty, and urges me to pay better attention
hereafter. Cd d--n him, I'd like some of these
dark nights to catch him on top of that round
house, and plunge him overheard. It would be 9
pleasing task for me, and Che rnuttered between
mis- teeth,) Cd d-n him, TIL do IL get"
made no reply He went forward and began
talking with some of the men-four or FIVE.
went below. l did not repea, this language tc
any of the officers. / have had frequent conyer.
sations with Spencer on general subjects, but nc
others which would throw light on the matter. !
did not know at the time that there rnutinous
expressions. Other officers were near and must
have heard his words
Spencer had picture in the ward.room at one
time. Once the Purser called the trysail the
nainsail, and they had quite dispute about it,
Spencer brought out picture of u brig, with a
btack flag flying at the peak. He made no re-
marks ar that time or any other TO me about the
picture or the color Of the flag.
AT Madeira, when we were getting under weigh,
Cromwell spoke against Commander Mackenzie.
Capt. NJ asked why some rigging had NOT been
attended TO. Cromwell was stationed forward and
Capt NJ went aft. Cromwell then said be " did
NOT care care d--n abou. the riggug: Captain
Mackenzie was desrous of getting too much work
out of the crew; that there was no necessity or
getting under weigh that night a, NIL, atthe same
time wishing the Commander and the Brig farther
IN Ii--ll than they were out" This he said loud
enough to be heard by all forward. Several Of the
officers were forward at the time, bur in the hurry
Of getting under weigh, paid no attention to ii
Shortly after we letI New-York, Cromwell, while
giving some money 70 the Sergeant OF Marines 70
take care of, told me that Spencer had given him
SIS; he mentioned no purpose, though he said
something about its being q pretty good present !"
Spencer also drew some SIS Or s2O worh OF to
bacco and c,gars during the cruise, which he dis
tributed 10 the crew-the tobacco rather TO the
bows than the men. He gave Cromwell bunch
or two of cigars al one time, and also 10 Small.
saw him give money 10 small at Santa Cruz, while
going ashore saw two silver pieces, though |
could NOT see how much there was. | have seen
Spencer give Green and Van Vecher q poand OF
tobacco at a time, aud to others smaller amounts.
recoecs no other conversation or facts tia. would
throw aay light upon the nutiny.
cRoSs-EXAMINATIOg.
The President informed Commander MAcKEs-
zIE that he had tine privilege fcrossexamiaing the
witness BY questions in writing, to be approved by
the Court. He handed the following questions:
O. Did sou ever hear Cromwell speak of his vifei.
A. have Two or three days after we were out
80 l,,3 . basyv gala Cromwell came down and