The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-02-09
Mr.. PRESTON aid not Insist on hi. suggestion.

Mr.. LINN thought that II would do well for them
to adopt some rule, but not like the Bankrupt law,
make II retrospective in its operation and cause this
affair to stand out in bold relief, when there had
heretofore been many breaches Of privilege
of the body. He would not say that the Senator
from New York was not parliamentary in his re-
marks, but if the language had been applied to him.
he would have felt called upon TO defend himself
Gentlemen here were in the habit of denouncng the
Democratic party as bringing the evils upon the coun-
try under which labors and, II he understood the
Senator from New York, he spoke OIL Mr.. Linn's)
colleague personally, and did not minge him up with
his political friends He objected to any particular
member being selected to receive the condemnation Of
the body unless they would adopt rule applicable to
all and he recollected analogous to this when
two members this floor made use OF violent and IN
sulting language, but the Senate did not take action
upon it, similar breach Of privilege took place not
many months since the Senate, however, adopted no
measure with view TO s adjustment, and fortunate
y for the country, il passed away.
Mr.. PRESTON said it seemed necessary that
some order should be taken with reference to the
breach of order, and that this dle TO the Senate
therefore, he would make the point of order.
Mr.. SEVlE icmaIked that it seemed to him that
this was very singular affair. The Senator was IN
order he was out of order and he asked the Char
to decide the question.
The PRESIDENT replied that he did not under
stand the Senator from N York as making personal
application 10 the Senator from Missouri; if he had,
he would have arrested him in his remarks.
Mr.. CLAY remarked that violation OF the deco
rum of the Senate consisted in two particulars; in
the first place. the language employed and in the other
the Senator from Missouri retaining his seat while he
made use of it. As the Senator from Missouri Mr..
LINN had perhaps referred to him and to another mem
Der of this body he would here state that whatever
language employed on that occasion by either
of them, was used while they in the lawful
possession Of the floor but they had now different
case presented, for while member was executing
his duty another member had interrupted him and
said that his remarks were false. If any thing like
this had ever before occurred in the Senate, he was
not aware of it,
Mr. LINN said that this was a breach of the pro-
priety of the body and he asked every Senator and
every individual who frequented the galleries, whe-
Their there not frequent violations of order as
prescribed by the rules And would they travel out
Of the way to make his colleague an exception and
would they draw distinction between his colleague
and other members of the Senate
MIR. WALKER differed from the Chair, and
thought that the remarks of the Senator from New
York were of personal character. The Senator
had spoken, in the ardor of his feelings upon sub
jec in which he had always taken peculiar interest
and he could not have been aware how far he was
hurried by his feelings with regard to this matter
and he (Mr. WALKER) had understood him as saying
that the unfortunate distress of the country had been
produced by the course of the Senator from Mis-
souri,
Mr.. TALLMADGE had only stated his honest
convictions that the course which the Senator from
Missouri had taken had contributed to the distress.
He had expressed this sentiment on former occasions,
here and elsewhere, and he would repeat It,
Mr.. WALKER understood the Senator as saying
that he had only made the assertion, but that he
repeated it.
Mr. TALLMADGE explained He had remark
ed that he re-asserted what he had said former
casions, here and elsewhere as his profound belief
Mr. WALKER hoped that he would be permitted
say that the Senator had spoken in the intense
ardor of his feelings he was not as good Judge as
those who had heard his remarks; and, if he would
make the inquiry, he would ascertain that he had
gone much further than he thought he had. The re-
mark was of such character was calculated tc
arouse the passions of any Senator on this floor.
Mr., PHELPS insisted that the whole debate was
out of order.
| Mr.. KING said that he not in the Senate when
the disorder occurred he confessed that he had heard
of with deep regret and he hoped and trusted that
this occurrence would warn Senators, in future, moi
to give way TO any impulses of unknd feelings They
were now presented In an attitude which did not be
long to the Senate and he thought that this thing
had gone far enough, he now hoped that the Senator
from New York would proceed in his remarks, anc
that he would, from self respect, avoid the least ap
proach to personality.
The PRESIDENT remarked that he had already
declared it, his opinion that the Senator from New
York was in order; and that if no appeal be taken
fiom the decision ofrthe Chair, the gentleman was en-
titled to the floor.
| Mr.. MANGUM said that, in order to prevent a re-
curence OF such proceedings as had taken place to-
day seemed to him to be necessary that some suitable
rule should be adopted for the government; of the
Senate therefore, he would submit the following re-
solution
| Rssolred, That a committee of persons be ap
pointed to inquire what order ought to be taken in the
case of Senator in his addressing another, who
is npossesson of the floor, in opprobrous or insulting
language; and that the said committee inquire what
order ought to be taken with regard to the language
addressed by the Senator from Missouri to the Sena-
tor from New York, while he in possession of the
floor.
Mr. SEWER remarked that the Chair had decided
that the Senator from New ork not of order
therefore, he hoped that the Senator would so with
his speech.
Mr. BAYARD observed that as some discussion
Mr.. SEWER objected to any remarks of the Sc
nator.
Mr., BAYARD attempted to proceed, when he was
again interrupted by
Mr.. SEWER who insisted that the Senator was
out of order, because appeal had been taken from
the decision of the Chair.
Mr.. MANGUM appealed from the decision of the
Chair that the Senator from New York was not GU,
OF order
MIR. YARD said that the whole matter wasno
open and asked what to be done upon the sub
jet. The Manual provided for difficulty OF thu.
kind, follows eff repeated calls do not procure or
der, the Speaker may call by his name any member
obslnatey persislng in rregulaEity, whereupon the
House may require the member to withdraw
He is then to be heard in exculpaon, and tc
withdraw Then the Speaker states the offence COM
mited, and the House considers the degree of pun
shment they will inhictn This the paramen-
tary course and the course of common sense, and
the appropriate mode of proceeding; and the ques-
ton was, had this been strictly complied with
1t was only at the last session that precisely similar
interruption occurred in this body; and he undertook
to say that in the OF proceedings here among
the various Interruptions the parties thought
proper to push the matter to extremes There was
another thing that the House might do in order to
protect their members, and Jeiierson's Manual
provided that whenever warm words, or assault
have passed between MEMBERS the house. for the pro-
lection of their members, requires them declare in
their places not TO prosecute any quartLn
The PRESIDENT repeated his decision, and said