The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1842-06-28

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Under date of the 2sJ OF Jsns Mr.. Webster
know Lodges tho fscea,a OF lbs iratef and fsfnarAs
that "the oosesemeni OF abs Iissed States has nsa
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prosperity of commercial Stases u has ho~tssri 10
lbertp limited us cons,ruc 8D Of steamboats, o. soch
destined fI a.,i,iary tusroses bui be says1ha
he has been directed by che President u the lBst
ates to say thai the conmunlcst ~la BE- respee
fully submitted 10 Congress fof ss console faiioa ana
for such proceedings a. thsy ms see al 10 saoi'
thereon"
| The message OF the President and the lst,efs &C
compa aging H. were referred 10 the cominiiae oh We
| reign Affairs
| large humber of bllIs froa. the House read
and appropriately re erred
MIR. BAGBY submitted the fslewing resolution
which lies ever, viz
| RESOLVED, That be Committee ON indisn Absifs
be instructed inquire what amount o ia0nsy, ma adj
dition to the contract price, was paid 10 john hss ="
removing the Cherokee Indians west o' the Mi~ss~i
pi, and for what additional service said amount, If ans
1 " maid hat fh6 Ua ~
send for persons and papers and report the result ~
their inquiry to the Senate with the least rae zeal
delay.
The bill for the adjustment of the claims Arising un-
| der the ourt, en,h and niDetseuth articles oil the
| treaty. of Dancing Rabbit Creek was taken up and,
after debate its further consideration WAS postponed
The Senate proceeded to the consideration OF the
bill respecting the organization of the army and iof
other purposes-whch the Committee on Military
Affairs propose different and less expensive
plan of reduction from that suggested by the HOUSE
bill
Mr.. PRES TON explained, briefly, the objects o
the bill, and intinaed that the report which accom-
panied it would give all the information desired.
Mr.. BATES requested the Senator TO state the
ground on which the committee proposed to abolish
the offices Of the superiDtendents OF the armories at
Springfield and Harpers' Ferry.
Mr.. PRESTON replied that the Secretary of War
thought that military officers much better fitted
for the duties than civil officers Besides the subs,i-
tuition was in accordance with the contemplated re-
duclion of the expenses Of the Government.
Mr.. BATES then spoke in favor Of striking out
second section which that the Offices of toe SUI
perntendents of the armores at Springfield and al
Harpers Ferry shall be abolished, and thai the duties
shall be performed by such officers Of the Ordinance
corps shall be designated by the Presidents and al
his request memorial was read showing the i'll
treatment to which the armorers subjected un-
der military rule at Springfield.
Mr.. PRESTON rejoned and contended that
abuses IN those armories were the result more OF th'
regulations than the fact OF there being military SUI
perlntendents. If injustice should be done to any OF
; the workmen statement could lie laid before the
Ordnance Department; if satisfaction should not be
then rendered. appeal might be made to the Secr'-
tary of War, to the President fine United States
Mr.. YOUNG remarked that the superintendent a
Harpers Ferry had been dismissed, and an officer o
the Ordnance Corps had been appointed to the place
II, therefore, the section should be stricken out as
moved by the Senator from Massachusetts, the mat
ter would be left precisely where it now was. To
avoid this, he would submit amendment to the
motion of the Senator, viz: to strike out the Sec
tion and in lieu thereof that the duties of the
offices of superintendent at the armories at Spring
field aid Harper's Ferry shall not be performed b,
officers of the Ordnance corps or other officers OF thu
army, but shall be confded 10 civil superintendent
of competent knowledge, as heretofore
Mr.. BATES accepted of the amendment.
Mr. BENTON opposed it, and expressed himself
in favor of the section as contained in the bill
Mr. CONRAD followed upon the same side.
Mr. PHELPS said that in his judgment, the estab-
lishment should be under civil superintendent.
Mr. TAPPAN was in favor of striking out the Sec
ton, and argued that none but mechanics wee COM
petent to superintend these establishments
Mr. BUCHANAN would vote for striking out the
section but reserve to himself to decide hereafter
whether the armories ought to be under the control
of civil or military officers.
Mr. PRESTON remarked that it had been
beautifully said that who rules DER freemen
should himself be Free" and which was apty
paroded, "who drives fat should himself
be fat" But was not officer of the Ord
nance Department fit to superntend the ar
mories as lawyer who could not make his board at
the BAR or broken down politican' They could
not pass law that the officer should be artisan
but here they proposed to take scientific men from
the Ordnance Department. men of affairs, who were
well qualified, from experience, to discharge the du-
ties required.
| Mr. ARCHER said that, if it were true that mil
itary administration for the public good, still 1t
would be forever found that it would be lrreconca-
BILE to the temper of those who employed In the
armores and the feelings of these operatives was
certainly entitled to respect, he would vote for the
| amendment.
Mr. HUNTINGTON was opposed to it, as he
thought that competent men could be selected from
the Ordnance Department; and this would save the
expense of employing civil officer.
| Mr. SIMMONS did not regard the duties to be
performed at the armories as military operations, but
as mechanical and to appoint military men to SUI
perintend mechanics most Singular therefore he
was in favor of the amendment.
| Mr.. SMITH, of Connecticut, argued that If Co
vernment turned manufacturer, it must employ prac-
| tcal men to superinted the armories.
| MIR. ALLEN declared himself to be in favor OF the
amendment.
Mr.. RIVES had learned from persons who resided
at Harpers Ferry that the military discipline in the
armory at that place had caused great dlssatisfac
| a., b, halo rod of