The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1842-08-25

ton amended accordingly. The Secretary estimated
the amount which would probably be collected under
the bill at tWentyseven and half millions. II the
President had required subordinate officer 70 make
different estimate for the purpose of influencing pub
lie opinion he Mr. E. did want it to be communi-
Gated to the Senate. They had estimate some
where that this bill would yield twelve millions; and
this too directly in the face ofhe OF the Secie
tary himself He repeated that they should have the in
formation from person who responsible to Con-
gress, and whose business it was, by law, to furnish
1t, and not from the Executive of the United States.
Mr.. MERRlCK arose, and was about to reply,
when
The CHAIR informed him that the resolution was
not yet before the Senate for consideration.
Mr.. MERRICK wshdd to make brief reply
Cries Of "go on, "proceed!"1
Mr.. MERRICK remarked that he did not deny the
position assumed by the Senator from Maine, that
the Secretary of the Treasury was more directly The
fiscal agent of Congress- and more responsible than
any other head Of either of the Departments This
had been vexed question, and various and conflict,
ing estimates to the amount likely to be collected
under the project which had been and was about be-
ing again presented, had been circulated; and he
presumed gentlemen most assuredly DESTROYS OF
obtaining all the information which they could obtain
upon the subject with view of acting to the best
advantage. Therefore, he had proposed the call up
on the President, the probable receipts under the
revenue bill were doubtless made with great care, and
likely to suggest information which might not
Secretary of the Treasury the object which
he had in view would be defeated. Mr.. For
ward had, for long time, been incapactated by
sickness from attending TO his BUSINESS and estimates
made by him had already been published But the
estimates in the possession of the President had been
prepared by another officer of the Treasury, under
the direction Of and by particular order Of the Ex-
ecutive; and they had been calculated with as much
nicely as possible, and differed widely from those
heretofore communicated to Congress. If there was
any great error certainly Senators were DESTROYS OF
knowing it, Surely there could be no we'll grounded
objections to making the proposed call on the Presi-
dent, who, the Chief Executive Of the Union, had
required of the officers of the Treasury Depart
ment to furnish estimates to the amount OF revenue
which would probably be collected under this bill
MIR. WOODBURY. rose to question of order
The CHAIR remarked that the whole proceeding
on this subject was out of order.
Mr.. WOODBURY. said that the Senator from
Maryland had asked for the consideration of the reso-
luton. To this no objection made The Sen
ator from Maine had discussed the proprety OF
making the call upon the Secretary of the Treasury,
instead of upon the President and now an objection
was made to the consideration Of the resolution
The CHAIR observed that he hal not put the
question.
Mr. WOODBURY. said, Then the debate is out OF
order
Mr.. EVANS, from the Committee on Finance, re-
ported bill making an appropriation to carry into
effect lie treaty with the Wyandot Indians, which
was read first and second time He also made
report from the Joint Committee Of Conference on
the disputed points in the contingent bill, which was
concurred in by the Senate.
The bill to establish district court of the United
States in the city of Wheeling Virginia, was read
third time and passed.
The Senate proceeded to the consideration of the
bill providing for the taking of testimony in cases Of
contested elections, and for other purposes.
The question pending was on the amendment of
MIR. Berrien submitted Yesterday, viz
Provided further, That nothing in the first section of
this act and the second section of the act therein
ferred to- (he Apportionment) shall be held to ex-
tend to the election of any person who shall be chosen
representative to the 28h Congress in any State in
which, by the laws of such State, the election of
personalities to Congress is required to be made by
general ticket and where the election has been held
may be held before the regular session of her Le
gslature, according to the act entitled can act pro-
vding for the apportionment Of representatives
among the severaStates, according to the sixth cen
sus."
Mr.. ARCHER proposed an amendment to the
amendment, as follows:
+ Unless the Govcrriur uf any State shall, before
the time appointed by law for holding such elections
therein, by his proclamation postpone the same I'M
til after the next meeting of the Legislature thereo
PORTER, submitted few observations; and the
question taken the amendment of Mr.. Archer,
and decided in the afirmative-yeas 81, nays l5 as
follows:
YEAS-Messrs Archer, Bates, Berrien, Clayton,
Conrad, Crafts, Crittenden, Dayton, Evans, Graham
Mangum, Miller, Morehead, Porter, Preston, Sim
mons, Smith, of Indiana, Sprague, Tallmadgc White
and Woodhridge-2l.
NAYS-Messrs. Allen, Bagby, Barrow, Benton,
Cuthbert, Henderson, King, Linn Sewer, Sturgeon,
Tappan, Walker, Woodbury., Wright, and Young-15
The question was stated on agreeing to the amend
ment. as amended. when
Mr.. ALLEN proposed to strike out all after the
words "28th Congress; y and, the question being
taken, it was decided in the negative-yeas 10, nays
"a, as follows
Calhoun, Cuthbert, Fulton, Henderson, King, Linn,
Rives, Sewer, Sturgeon, Tappan, Walker, Williams,
Woodbury., Wright, and Young-l9.
NAYS-Messrs. Archer, Bates, Bayard, Berrien,
Choate, Clayton, Conrad, Crafts, Crttenden Dayton,
Evans, Graham, Huntington, Mangum, Merrick, Mil
Indiana, Talmadge, White, and Woodbridge-24.
Mr.. KING moved to amend the amendment by
striking out the words required to be elected by ge-
neral ticket" and inserting, according to the exist
ing laws of each State"
The amendment was rejected-yeas 10, nays "a.
The question was then taken on the amendment Of
Mr. Berrien, as amended on the motion of Mr.. Ar
cher; and agreed to-yeas 30, nays 6, as fol-
lows
YEAS-Messrs. Allen, Archer, Bates, Benton,
Berrien, Buchanan, Calhoun, Choate Conrad,
Crafts, Crittenden, Cuthbert, Evans Fulton, Gra-
ham, Henderson, King, Linn Merrick, Mcrehead,
Rves, Sewer, Smith, of Ia, Sprague, Tallmadge,
Tappan, Walker, White, Williams Young-30
NAYS-Messrs. Bayard Barrow Clayton, Hun
tington, Porter Woodbrdge-6.
A message was received from the House of Repre-
sentatves stating that they had passed JOINT resolu
ton, fixing Monday next, the 29th instant the day
of adjournment of the tive Houses of Congress- and
requesting the concurrence Of the Senate therein
MIR. ALLEN moved that the bill be laid aside, with
view of considering the resolution just received from
the House and called for the yeas and nays, which
were ordered.
The question decided in the negave-yeas Is,
nays 25, as follows:
YEAS-Messrs Allen, Bagby, Barrow, Benton,
CaIhaur, L,nlton Henderson Kinn Inn Sewer