Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1842-12-15

hands of standing committee wait until we &c. n NE
ra,o,, The gentlemans course was an Iliogca one
| If ,bev referred this subject TO standing commune
the bill before the House, lney
must expect to get something from 'hat euu'''e
Bnt supnose he was not encountered win tnis ooJeo
linn nm moving to go into Committee OF the Nhoe' III
,o,,;,,es he should be encountered with the OBJ
;c,ion that this matter in the bnnus oil slahoihs
committee and that that committee would give 'nem
enort which ought be received and considered before
this subject disposed c and there "ono mus DC an
;mnedimen Mt TO the despatch of this bill But Tor iur-
tber reason what the precise object oil the gentle
+. mans motion: There was in COMMITTEE OF the "hoe
ma,ured bill, which had been before the House ana
the country for nearly year, but the gentleman rom y.
York said that il was the identical plan OF the Exc
c,,yc nor The precise scheme by the Pre-.
silent message Now, il vas mmateria whelher mere
was more or less difference; 1t was bill reported oy
committee TO whom similar recommendation was SUP,
med; and he urged upon the House to follow out that
course The House. al The last session, referred TINS
,,,ter 10 committee of The friends of the measure,
and they debcruted and reported this bill to the House.
and now, what was it the gentleman from New iofk
proposed, Did he propose to refer 1t to commitee Of
the friends of the measure! IL ne were proposing 10
refer il TO committee of the friends OF the measure he
would be performing work of supererogaon, Tor they
had before them the ideas of such committee what,
then, was the object of the gentleman: Was TO refer
10 its enemies that it mil ht be crushed and damneo
Was that the gentlemans object? II 1t were, he (Mr
III
inst or fair one il was sganst the rules oil all lar
proceedings as lnd down in the books on parliament
ary law and he therefore adhered TO his original views
and which was both straightforward ono
ouitable He hoped the House would refer this Por
ton of the mcssoy re 10 the Committee OF the Whole on
the state of the Union, that they might proceed TO It's
consideration with the bill now in the committee.
/ Mr. PICKENS was disposed to favor the motion OF
the gentleman from Massachusetts,, (Mr Cushng,) Us
he wished 10 give the Administration fair hearing
before the country this great measure upon which
they had staked themselves He was willing that the
reference should be made TO the Committee OF the
Whole where full discussion might be had upon its
merits lie thought il due 10 the President, and but
an act Of fairness and justice. lie opposed 10 its
roiny 10 The Committee Of Ways and Means, although
lie vas member of that committee; not because they
were lis enemies, (as the gentleman from Mnssachu-
sets had sad for Of that he knew nothng but because
he desired Il e friends of the President, who were here
in minority to have ample scope for fair appeal 10
the country upon to which, as he understood
now, he (slr. P) utterly opposed He did not
know what shape it would assume; but he could not
90 for the principles Of measure which looked to ma
king Government paper, as permanent system, for
circulation.
Mr.. EVERETT was very DESTROYS that the plan Of
The Executive should have fair examination IL had
been referred 10 a committee Of its friends, and they
damned it and he wished it to be referred to
the Committee Of Ways and Means, and he should
have objection that they be instructed report the
bill of The Executive, that direct vote might be taken
upon it,
MIR. CHARLES j. INGERsOLL, after few re.
marks, which were inaudibe a, the reporters desk,
observed that he wished 10 give this measure the direc
ton which its friends preferred but he first desired TO
know from The gentleman from Massachusetts, (Nlr
CUSHING whether there was any difference between
The bill reported by the select committee at the last
SON. and the plan reported by the Secretary of the
Treasury, und recommended by the President; and, if
So in what the difference consisted
Mr.. CUSHING said that that Of those
\ ctiuus hrh he -
Il must be answered by statement of facts-and, if
the House would permit him, he would make such an
explanation he doubted not would be satisfactory TO
tie gentleman.
! Mr.. INGERSOLL wished to know whether the
plans the anne in principle.
MIR. CUSHING said that he would be glad 10 answer
that question, if the House would permit him. No
objection being made, MIR c. went 10 say, that The
bl recommended by the President, and the report
ed by the select committee were substantially the same
in proposing certain plan of finance They differed,
however, in two points; and these were in regard
to the proportion the bills TO be issued are TO bear 10
the specie hand, and in regard to exchanges The
bill Of the House allowed the issue only OF notes, dol
lar for dollar Of specie hand while the plan Of the
Secretary of the Treasury allowed the issue of three
dollars of notes, for every dollar of specie. Again
The bill of the select committee excluded all dealings
in exchange except such might be ordered by the
Secretary Of the Treasury for The purposes of the Go
vernmen while the Treasury plan proposed TO author
ize the dealing in exchanges.
Mr.. Bolts called Mr.. G.. to order, the ground
that he going into the merits Of the question.
The CHAIR decided that The gentleman from Massa
chuse.s had been permitted by the general consent OF
the House, 10 make explanation in detail; and that,
therefore, he had right TO go
MIR. CUSHING observed that he had Explained what
the two material differences were in the two exchequer
bills and he would only add that there few other
differences watch questions merely of machinery,
details, &c.
Mr. e. J. INGERSOLL expressed his thanks 10 the
gentleman from Massachusetts for giving him all the
e explanation he desired. He would then say that he
would vote for the reference 10 The Committee OF Ways
and Means of tn, Presidents project, as he was de-
cldedly and imnovably opposed 10 III but he had no
objection TO the reference of the bill Of the Select Com
mit,ee 10 the Committee OF the Whole House, because
he believed that something might be made of it. lie
was opposed to for another he opposed
TO any treasury that originated with the Executive;
for lie thought thigh time that this II ouse should re-
sumo the right Of which had Invested ITSELF Of begin
ming such matter here.
/ Mr. EVERETT moved to amend the motion of the
gentleman from New York, to commit the subject
10 the Committee Ways and Means, with instructions
to report bill in strict conformity with the plan Of
finance presented ~ the Secretary of the Treasury at
the last session. and recommended by the President;
and also that the committee report their opinion whe
Their said bill ought 10 pass.
i MIR. HOLMES expressed his aatoniehment that, on
measure which, Of Ill Others required the most mature
dpliberation-a measure which was proposed for
diving all The evils which have afflicted the country,
md measure which, if il should ever come up for dis
CUSTOM would draw 10 it all the financial ability and
I the ncumen ofthe geaes minds in The House-a pro-
position should lie mde by way of instructions, which
was 10 decide il al He was decidedly opposed to
The notion as in prn,pe, it violated all the establish
I'd practices Of the H,use. lie wished decision on
this important subject be made after free and ample
discussion. and not inadvance by giving instructions
10 a committee.
MIR. W G. JOHNSON preferred reference to the
Committee of the Vince for the simple reason that The
bill and message shoult go TO the same committee. III
the reference should be made 10 the Committee of the
Whole, il would be thin in the power Of the gentle
man from Vermont TO nove 10 refer the plan of The Sc
lee, Committee TO the Committee Of the Whole; and
thus the two plans coud he under discussion the
same time and The elected that might be found to
be the most desirable.
In regard the Excheuer scheme, lie thought there