The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-12-31

Seemed plessed ana remarked that very glad to
hear Small was then called away 20 ia him Ina he
should have the midnight watch that ngn., E 80 49,;
have further conversation with HIM Ieisse 70 'u1'
plans and desired Small that oretopman IN the
mean time He did not say what soretopman. small men
left Spencer then made h 70 m Ua' n
msnd he then went on state that the commander had
large amount hone on board this he sand With what
mence with Bs then asked me what thought of the
proposaI gve him TO understand that was favorable
20 the Called me away spencer remarked that
we oaid have another interview on the morrow, and
ther would show this plan OF his he followed me
t as lar the gangway saying If lisped syllable OF
what he had communicated TO me- that should be muir
dered if he did do it himself those connected with
him woud-go where might my life would not be worth
straw. then took means
Glow long did the conversation last
About an hour, perhaps two; we were sitting on
the middle OF the booms; recolect conversation oc
curing in relation to McKenzie what have stated all
that occurred this occasion; then embraced every
opportunity Of giving the information to Commander |
Mckenzie; it was moonlight think; it was Light and
about nine o'clock; Spencer downs proceeded aft
as far cabin intended communicate the
Commander Mckenzie; observed Small watching me |
very close; did then 60 down into the cabin, but
went back; spencer was in hammock near the birth
door; thought would go to the ward ROOM but Spencer
put up his head and asked what the devil was about
cruising there; about hour after went 10 the eerage
door, but found Spencer still awake previously had
gone to the birth deck; my idea to get into The ward
room; the lights out in the ward room, and the
officers had all retired; then let it rest till morningdid
to Sleep however, tried but could not get sleeps
.
O'Clock, went and communicated the facts to Purser
Huyskil
Al first told him there was mutiny on foot and re
quested that might to the Of the commander;
the first Lieutenant and told him that Mr.. Huy
skill wanted to him in the wardroom; was watched
Wilson S snd was watched closely could
be; believe they thought was playing them false at
the evening quarters Mr. Spencer was con6ned endea-
vored get another interview with him. but was i'm.
possibe he engaged with Green, the oretopman he
arrested the evening of the 26th November the
gagged with him pretty much the whole OF the mornings
Green apprentice board; Spencer was then put
in irons; the captain asked him such thing had occur
red, and he said there had.
Q-Haa you. previously to the arrest of Mr. Spencer
heard anythngl
A-No sir. have seen Mr.. Spencer talking with
| them.
QAter the conversation, had you seen Spencer talk
| ing with any number together
Ayes, sir had seen him converse with Cromwell,
Small Nevil Wilson, and Mckinley they were all col
ected together and stood by the Jacobs ladder
the gangway and could not hear of the conversation
the conversation carried on in the usual tone.
Mckenzie and Spencer the quarterback before Spen-
Ger arrested far recollect the commander
said that he understood he asped the command of that
object unless ride the dead bodies ofthe off,
heard Mr.. Spencer say Yes, sir, and then was
| ordered away to get up some irons
| Odd you get up the irons =?
Ayes sir and brought them on deck saw the
swerd taken away from him and irons put on
Spencer submitted willingly at the time the irons
put petty officers were on the quarter deck the
men busy about the ship believe there
men on the quarterback. stationed by the gun the off,
GERS were called aft Spencer taken on the larboard
launches that all that remember parc ulariy then
about O'Clock. could dissatisfaction
| sng among the mon we had to give orders
twice, and then they were obeyed with muering he
slept in the next hammock he was ordered on deck and
he went deck muttering; also the others collect
together viz: Wilson, McKie and Mckinley they
talking among themselves the forecastle; could
hear the substance of their conversation this surlness
continued the next day. and was general on the follow
The Of thad ieafa ctionC
saw signs made between the prisoner and his
friends; Cromwell lay on the chest, and he got
made to me would shoot HIM down saw Wilson aft /;
he drew kind fhandspike from the deck, and told him
II saw him make any further signs would strike him
dead expressed my Tears to commander Mckenzie
and also TO the LIST Lieutenant before they put
irons saw Spencer trying batteaxe with his hand he
apparently trying to how he could work it with
IN nas communicated it to the commander and he
their muske they kept round he stern Of 'a ss
anu uiu not attend TO their muster that day or morning
IRONS there was still dissaac.on w l,s1 they
given they went to work surly about it thi. dis.
observed those Who were most ssr Hn a
nr were then the men to run first to do anything after
think the been Increasing ' 80 much A. q
crew exhibited probably mor s nan w sss
and Mr.. Spencer conver!,n sew Commander Mckenzie
s%s to 9rgvi Mr. sId Spencer -
that of me- having brought to this !" Mckenzie said
something like Don't g., out Of the world with any
sir, ! do" and held out his hand. Lieutenant
Gansevoor then took leave Of him Mckenzie said what
you against that you should not bid me good bye
Small said, nothing sir but did not think you would bid
good bye to poor fellow like and then bade him good
bye he took Nc Kenzies hand and shook very cordial
y heard Small say God bless that flag; he looked up
to the flag he asked permission of his commander to ad
dress his shipmates, which leave granted him. the
words cannot recoect but heard him warn them Of his
fate and say that his right and lust and il
right that he should die; he then asked Mr. Spencer
if he ready to die; he said ann Spencer had asked
/ he lint
he could not give the order as Spencer passing to
up to and sad "Mr Wales hope you will sincerely
did, and hoped that God would forgive him; he then
babe me farewell and went again to the gangway had
no conversation with any other OF them; have heard
Spencer frequently speak against Commander Mckenzie;
on shore in the boat 18th November was with him:
Spencer was officer ofhe boat; he cursing the can
tain; think Mr. Rogers in the boat the comman.
der told him he not in uniforms had on blue dress:
he was just going over the side the commander made
understand; after had got in the boat and about
thirty yards from the vessel the captain hailed the boat
and asked we had the American ensign board spen.
replied that he had not got and then the captain
could not hear it, "Pm God damned il Pm going back
after it-you damned old humbug-go to hell y
He continued cursing, and the boats seemed
pleased by it, they were laughing think Mckinley was
in the boat and Golderman will not be sure of that
this boat was the second cutter; this all that took
place at that time. About two weeks before he made
known his plans me on the voyage to st.
Cromwell was the mate of the watch. No
paid attention to the order He called again and again
three times, ! believe Mr. Rogers game forward and
gave orders to the men themselves Mr. Rogers was in
charge of the vessel The as near Mr. Rogers
was Capt. Mckenzie noticed it, and sent for Mr.
Spencer to come aft did not hear the conversation be-
tween them, but when Spencer forward again he
was muttering curses against Commander Mckenzie
| said "spsncer, what's the matter p Says he I" The
Commander saws don't pay attention to my duty and re-
God damn him-I should like to catch him some n; gbt
on that round house. and plunge him overheard II would
be pleasing task for me. and I'll do yet" He then went
forward left and went below. He was speaking At the
time to four or fve We have had many
relative to his schooboy times. was not aware at the
time that they were mutinous expressions. There wero
other officers present think they must have heard H.
The purser and he had dspute the purser called
sail mansail; he made kind Of vessel with black aag
flying at the peak; no remarks made have heard
this Cromwell at Madeira speak against Capt MCKENZIE