The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1842-08-25

laid on the table,
Mr.. YOUNG renewed his motion, which prevail
ed and the resolution having been read
Mr.. TALLMADGE said that he did not feel him
self prepared to vote for it, They had butthree days
remaining Of the present week, and the revenue bill
and variety of other matters were yet to be acted
on He thought therefore, that the Senate were not
at present prepared to concur he resolution Every
saw that there great necessity for passing re-
venue The Senate mig occupy three or four
days in its consideration and amendments made
they would ofcourse be sent to the House for It's ac-
ton Let them first act upon the bill, and then they
could fix the day of adjournment. Under these cir
cumstances, he moved to lay the resolution on the
| table.
| Mr.. SEWER said that if they were to have
venue bill, he would be willing TO adjourn tomorrow;
but, as there was some prospect of getting one, he
would vote to lay the resolution on the table
A voice Col we'll pass the bill tomorrow.
Mr.. TALLMADGEs said that the bill was reported
TO the Senate yesterday by the Committee on Finance,
and that it would probably be taken up tomorrow in
good faith He did not despair.
The question was then taken and the resolution
was laid upon the table-yeas "a nays II, as iol-
| lows
Berrien, Buchanan Choae, Clayton, Conrad, Crafts,
Crittenden, Dayton, Evans, Huntington, Miller,
Morehead, Porter Preston, Rives, Sewer, Simmons,
Smith, Of Indiana, Sprague, and Tallmadge-24.
| NAYS-Messrs Allen, Bagby Calhoun, Fulton,
Graham, Henderson, King Linn, Mangum, Merrick,
Walker, White, Williams, Woodbridge, Woodbury.,
! Wright, and Young-l7.
! So the motion was laid upon the table,
| MIR. WALKER observed that he regarded the vote
Just taken indicative of decided determination TO
act upon the Revenue bill therefore he concurred in
the resolution offered few minutes ago by the Sena-
tor from louisiana (Mr. Conrad) and hoped that il
would be adopted so that those who opposed to
the BILL or portions Of it, might be enabled to propose
amendments.
The resolution taken up and adopted, and
| The Senate went into an Executive session.
| In the House, on Wednesday, Mr.. GWIN pro-
posed to go into Committee of the Whole to take up
| the bill for the relief Of General Jackson.
Mr.. COWEN expressed wish that the motion
might be withdrawn for the present, and the business
of the morning hour might go on. He wished reso-
luton from the Committee Claims to be acted on.
| The Committee asks leave to employ clerk during
| the recess short explanation would show how
! indispensable are the services of the clerk.
| Mr.. GWIN refused to withdraw his motion-but
| it was negatived.
MIR. BOLTS submitted the following resolution
Resolued, That the Committee of Ways and Means
be instructed to report bill limiting the rate of dis
count, at which the loan shall be TAKEN authorized
by the act of 18th April last and explanatory pro-
vision denying the construction put on the loan bill,
at the Treasury Department. relative to the issue of
stock to perform the function of Treasury notes.
! Also that they be instructed to bring in bill
peang the proviso the 9th section of the Dstribu-
ton bill passed on the day of September last
Mr.. JOHNSON, of Tennessee objected to its re-
cepton.
| Mr.. BOLTS moved a suspension of the rules, and
called for the yeas and nays. They were ordered,
and the vote stood yeas 81, nays 62. So the motion
| to suspend was negatived.
| Mr.. JOHNSON, of Tennessee, submitted the fol-
lowing resolution
OF the Navy to report to Congress the first week in
January OF each year, early thereafter prac-
tcabe the expenditures of each vessel for the pre-
cedng year, including all expenses in repair thereof
and for the armament or equipment thereof, and all
expenses in keeping her ahoat if ahoat-or in dock,
if lying up-also, the number of days during the year,
that each ship was actually at sea- and that similar
report of each ship hereafter built purchased be
made, so as to exhibit an annual and aggregate
count of the cost and expenses of each Ship and the
service rendered by it to the country-and also spe-
cifying the amount for Materials as well as the
amount for labor, in the building or repairing of
each ship.
| MIR. MALLORY objected. 1t would be imposs-
BILE to furnish the information required as the De-
partment is now organized without increasing the
Mr.. JOHNSON moved suspension of the rules
The votes counted 70 in the affirmative and 80
| in the negative No quorum. Teers then or
dered. They reported 80 in the affirmative, and 36
in the negative So the motion to suspend was car
| RED.
MIR. JOHNSON moved the previous question on
| the adoption of the resolution.
| Mr.. KING requested that the motion should be
Withdrawn moment that he might propose modif-
| cation of tue resolution. lie said he thought it
pedient that the information should be had but it
could not be furnished by the present force in the De-
partment. In all probability the reorganization bill
would not be passed He, therefore, proposed to az
pend to the resolution that the Secretary of the Navy
should be authorized to employ additional number
| of clerks sufficient to do this work.
| Mr.. 10 Unison did not accept the modification.
| Mr.. BROWN of Pennsylvania, proposed an adj
ditonaI clause requiring information in regard to the
number of officers time of promotion, period of ac-
tua service, &c. This modification was not re-
| ceived.
| Mr.. PROFIT moved to lay the resolution on the
| table. Neeatved.
simple resolution of its own, had no right to establish
permanent lue for annual information.
| The resolution was then adopted without count
| Mr.. PROFFIT moved reconsideration of the
vote just taken. lie said he anxious as any one
to obtain all the information he could that he might be
enabled to discharge his duties, but he felt himself
compelled to object to the resolution In the first
place. he did not think the House had the power to
pass such resolution Again, the clerks both in the
War and Navy Departments are now fully employed
in answering legitimate calls All the clerks in the
| Navy Department must be employed six months in
each year to furnish the information required by this
one resolution. More would be expended clerk
hire and printing, than its author could save by all
| his efforts at rerenchment. The result would be |
large expenditure and initiation of the size of the
public documents without am equivalent. 1t would
be impossible to furnish all the details required.
After some remarks by Messrs Calhoun, Charles |
Brown Holmes and Spigg,
MIR. FESSENDEN said that some gentlemen had
given construction to the resolution most |
probably not intended Some seemed to think that |
minute statement of all the details Of expenditure
required to be made every year. Now this was
obviously impossible. To remove all msapprehen-
sion, he proposed to amend the resolution by requiring
that the amount of expenditure should be furnished
At the suggestion, he said of some friends around
him. he moved the previous question.
The modification was accepted.