The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-11-20
The Mary G. Rogers Mystery--Examina-
ton or MRS. Loss Boys yesterday at Jersey


ton or MRS. Loss Boys yesterday mt Jersey
City.
The examination was held before Stephen H. Lut
kins, Esq Justice. 1t was conducted on the part c
the prosecution, by l.. D. Hardenburgh, ESQ. the
District Attorney. Counsel for prisoners, n. Chase
NJ Ogden, and T.W. James, Esqrs. There were pre-
sent, James g. King, Esq.,, Mayor Alexander, o
-ersey City, r. Gilchnst county clerk; L. r. V
v nght, Esq, and several magistrates Judge Lut
Ins offered every facility TO the Herald's reporter
The following Is a copy OF the affidavit made be
fore Judge Lulkins, upon which the two boys were
arrested and imprisoned last Monday
STATE OF NEw JsRsrv, HUBsos CouSrY ss-Personally
appeared before Justice of the Peace of said county Gil
oe Merritt OF said county, in the State of New Jersey
who being duly sworn by me, deposeh and saith Tha
" tn month of July. 1871, he his deponenD as msgis
Il ate, held an inquest the body Of Mary Rogers
Hoooken, III said county Of HUDSON who this deponen
believes was murdered and this deponept further saith
tha from Information he has Obtained and facts in his pos
session. he verify believes that the murder OF the saC
Mary Z. Rogers was perpetraed in house at Weehaw
ken, called the Nick Moore House." then kept by
her three sons to wt-Oscar Kelenbarack Charles KEEL
lenbarack and Ossan Kellenbarack all three Of whom
this has to believe worthless and profit
gate characters and this deponent further saith that hi
has just reason to believe hat the said and
ther pit Of the most depraved aud debauc
in New Jersey and that all Of them had know ledge Of
were accessory to. and become partcpaors in the
der OF said Mary C. Rogers and the conceament OF her
body. GILBERT MERRITT.
fore me,
STEPHEN II. LUrxIss, Justice of the Peace.
The examination conducted by his Honor
Mayor Morris, &c gratia.
MRS NANCY LUDLAM, being swern, (the oath
administered required any and all information
touching and concerning the death Of Mary G. Ro-
gers) says II was with Mrs Loss for nine DAYS al
ter she was shot; did not on any occasion during
her sickness hear her say word about Mary C.
kosers-not IN English she might have said
..-raved terribly-talked of some female whom she
imagined TO be present thought her an evil spirit
would cry out "Shoo away "' shoe away % &C.,
but called no name. | never heard the boys say
any thing about secret to be kept On that Sun
day (25th July, 1871, the day of Mary C Rogers
death) In the afternoon, | saw a female and a
young man coming down from the mountain, fol-
lowed by four others; two of the four had on light
jackets; they came down on to the turnpike. The
lady had on light clothes and straw bonnet twas
about opposite to my house where they struck
the turnpike. This was after the shower
My daughter-inlaw said she could not be any great
things. to be followed by such fellows; was at
home that evening all the time. few days after,
walked down to Mrs Loss house; while | v as
there we were discoursing about Mary C. Rogers ;
1t was while Mrs Loss was gathering up chips she
gored one of her boys. On the evening of the 18th
July, after milking, she Mrs. Loss went to pick
up some chips-heard screams-thousht bull had
been lnluring her sons-she went up towards Lud
lams house 10 find her child, and met the boy re-
turning. Witness asked her how she come TO
keep the clothes in the house so long before she in
formed OF it.? She answered, that she supposed
Something might turn up to make them more useful
sorry she had not burnt the clothes, as her sister
wanted her to do, and thus there would have been
no fuss about it, Mrs. Loss son Oscar had been
at my house that evening. That is all know about
1t; can't think OF any thing more. | shall ever
think that was her coming down from the noun
tam
,Q.-Has any thing been said to you about $50
offered by any one tor any purpose?
Al never heard any thing about it,
Odd Mrs. Loss state why it would have Sawed
her trouble" TO have burnt the clothes?
A.-NO.
The name of that sister was Louisa Van Draer.
MIR. JAMES LUDLAM.-l reside under the hill at
Weehawken, above Hdboken; | have not before
been examined | recelect the Sunday 18th July.
lSll was about home that day and evening /
have thought good deal about the occurrences of
that day heard no screams or cries On the
morning the mother died, Oscar, one of the bows
told M the secret would now come out, and that
the secret was about receipt to cure the rheuma-
tism l was with Mrs. Loss every day during her
sickness-she raved-I did not understand what she
said-she derious; ! heard nothing about
$50
Mr. JAMES LupLAM, JR., (son) -Have been ex-
ahmed before; have heard nothing more about
TIE utdsH Oi WARY ". hOSeIS: nave never nearQ the
two boys say anything about the death of M. G. r.;
nor about $50 know nothing more about it at al
heard my brOther-ln-law say the boys told him
that now the great secret would come out.
HENRY FREDERICKS.-l lived at Hackensack
when Mary G. Rogers was murdered; was at Mrs
LOSS when she was sick; when Oscar was going
To Jersey City for the Doctor, he told me that the
great secret would come out now that his mother
was going to die; he said he should tell DR.. Gauer
all about the great secret; never heard any of them
say anything about the Mary C. Rogers affair; the
elder said that loose characters had been at his
mothers house; he had looked through the key
hole and seen them.
ANTHONY LUDLAM Am son of James Ludlam ::
have been living at Hoboken On the 25th of July
was one OF the jurymen when the inquest was
held on the dead body. The second son of Mrs.
Loss. when the mother was going to die, said a
great secret would now come out after his mothers
death. Mrs Loss, while sick, would say, take her
away" &c; she talked all sorts of nonsense.
MIR. JAMES STEPHENs.-Never before examined
in relation to the death Of Mary C. Rogers; have
known these boys for ten years. smart active boys;
heard the boys say anything at all about the
Mary O. Rogers affair." was home on the 18th July;
not at home when she was found; knows nothing
at all about the affair.
JAMES LEE.-Resde at Weehawkin, under the
hill, at Mr.. Ludam's; lived there at the time OF
Miss Rogers death passed BY the place where her
clothes were found-between and o'clock-afler
the raln-after sunset but heard nothing, nor saw
ANYTHING at all; was driving my COWS home; the
sun might have been set half an hour when first
passed Mrs Loss house TO go after the cows
the bull was left on the meadow; he was
not with my cows that night; when got home
the cows were in the yard they went on a little
ahead OF me, and followed on lesurely after them
was at home that evening, but heard nothing nc
noise, nor anything at all nor did hear any one
else say that he heard any noise have not heard
Mrs. Loss boys say anything al all about the mat
ter.
CHARLEsW .KELLENBARRAcK, (son OF Mrs. Loss, who
had been divorced rom man by that name, and as
sumed the name Of Loss, her maiden nancy THE
Mayor assured this boy that no harm should come
to him tor anything which he might say, tina { he
might fearlessly tell the whole truth. | am the
second boy / examined before Justice
Merritt, when my mother was examined; |
and my bro Their found the clothes know nothing
more than what before told you at the other exam
nation; carried over the clothes and handed them
to DR.. Cook often saw the man Crommen after
the death OF the girl
O What &c crtf was that which Won snok o Of