The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-06-12

wards out of at least fifteen persons Then Mr.. Ludlow
swears that he noticed him and compared him with
friend whom he resembled and talked afterwards with his
partner about that resemblance There is boy who tes
tes to him, who noticed him, TO him. remarked that
he wanted god for the people in the South curious
people and would have gold for their negroes That boy
handed bag TO him that bag he had seen till 1t
gave had j. LEE upon it, and when the bag is shown to
him, he says that is the bag marked know the marks.
He swore that he bag which marked to Jno r.
CALDWELL although he can't swear that was the bag he
gave. They say this proves nothing yet how curious it
that not only the description OF the finds should
those received by Jno p Caldwell but also that this
bag should also the one which caldwell got
On the second Of September he at Richmond; do
fail therei Montague him twice; one time hour
after the other; recognised him Immediately. Again Mr.
Maury had conversation with him for hour; had he
opportunity in that hour recognise him1 Mr. Cenden
ming who had just taken the Hotel and John Caldwell
the first customer he had and from that he recognises
him, and swears to him. Gentlemen Twill show you that
the weakness of our cause is strengthened by their ev
dence there two albis which important to them;
they prove that he not in Baltimore the 3st
August and not in Richmond the second Of September,
then he is not the not for other dates these
are the dates which witnesses to;
where he is when this letter eve has Munroe
Edwards conederaes he be the person who planned
this scheme do you not suppose that there coneder
ates of the same sort who around hml is there
who could have put that letter in the post office at
Philadelphia where is their abb to prove that he
not in Baltimore on the 3lst August, Richmond the
ID September will prove most conclusvely by Miss
Phillips, his witness, that he in Baltimore the
3st August; do not mean to impeach her testimony;
believe she has spoken the TRUTH and that she is correct
in every thing that she does not speak from memory and
rejoice that arrest has been made saving her from
life of degradation and Sorrow now where their
abisl none Of them so to affect the dates have men,
toned what dates taken alone? with respect to
these registers what becomes Of heml does not every
body know that those books the command of every
who comes int have had those books at my command
for hours will undertake to commit forgery the
10th May and on the 10th June will undertake to travel
and plant my name the registers of every hotel from
moro on the 3ist August he was not because his
name appears at the Waverly House on that day,
letter dated Waverly House, 3st August lS the only
letter in which he has been particular enough to designate
the house at which he arrived Not satisfied with this,
they show him the Northern Hotel on the seth August
There he sleeps and leaves ii before breakfast Does he
go to the Waverly to breakfast No, he gets there TO
dinner and late dinner too for it is after the dodgers
have and this at the bottom Of the page where there
three lines to and where the leaf the next
charge is for lodging Is this probabe3 Was he there
but take the testimony Of the quaker girl the apostle of
truth, the counsel has termed her. and will show you
by her dates that he could be there She gives ek
tract of the dates of his outgongs and comngs in and by
that they prove that he absent the 3Oh August till
the 9th September leaving time to receive this money
Where was he? At the Northern Hotel in New York
and the Waverly Hotel, in New York. those books say
What does Miss Phillips say She says he said he was
nephew Where was lis nephew Al St. Mary,s Col
legc, Baltimore! Where The find his nephew At the
ST. Marys College Baltimore And to allow the
evidence OF those books to outweigh the evidence Of Miss
Phillips and Mr.. Elder He does go South He does
bring his nephew the 9Th as Miss Phillips demon.
he went South. Which of them did he do Let the
testimony of the prosecution be demolished by those
tries in those books but will you let those entries de-
molsh his Witnessed There is the entry too at
Frederick there proofhat there nothing more
than tho entry He did not stop there the Sd Sep
tembcr and in addition Mr. Ellis that this is not
his handwriting and do all these dates time for
him have received this money! Nir Hoffman to show the
and ieeblencss Of here referred the
fusion which Boz has put in the mouth OF old Tony We'll
Ter when rckwick had been in damages for breach
promise and when Old Tony rises up and regrets that an
abi had not been proved)
The Cour, here took a recess till four O'Clock.
ArrsRxooS SESSION. -1t
There was terrible crowd again this afternoon, and
nearly hundred ladies crowded in with the rest
and hear.
Mr. HorrMAN resumcd-On the I'd Sept and 3lst of Au
gust Edwards proved to have been places
that name on the 3l August on the looks ofthe Waiver
ly House forgery, then il proves that the writer
the letter to Johnson dated the 3st Of august knew
that the 3lst Of August most important day in thu
the Waverly House on the 3st August and that h,
falsely dated that letter. shows that he. Edwards wa,
well aware that the money received the 3lst oil
August and that it necessary to show he else
where that day than at the place where the money
was receivad Mr. Hoffman then defended the nony
Mr. Elder from the attacks Of counsel and compl ned
bitterly OF the conduct Of all counsel in their habit Of
lacking witnesse. He said for twenty years Mr. Elder
had been the treasurer OF college without defalcaton
and is something in these times for to be
any place for 20 without dealcatonand such
man was fully entitled TO belief But Mr. Marshall was
pleased to comment his expression before God,
would Mr. Marshall like ingenious counsel make sim
liar comments his Oh, Lord" "thc deuce take it." OF
any other Western vulgarm, as he was pleased to call il
Certainly not would he attempt il. Miss Phillips
that Monday Aug Goth he left to his nephew
at Baltimore Mr. Elder says that he there either on
Tuesday or wednesday the 3oth and sst August But
his counsel say that he at Baltimore the LIST of Sept
between and in the morning. Admit IT. and what be
OF his being at the Waverly House. the evening
the 3lst of August to very late late that the
dodgers coming in And what did he do North
going South He told Elder the morning he saw him that
he had come from Washington and that he had to return
that afternoon and that he could not see Dan till Saturday
On the way bills Of that morning there was the name Of
Edwards coming from Washington, and the way bills
that afternoon there is the name Of Caldwell returning
This on Tuesday, the 3lst of August On that morn
ing be told Elder that he had money pay the three
last half years bills for the boy Dan, bttha he would
turn Saturday and have plenty of funds to settle
ii. He did go to Richmond-hc came back OH
saturday-he had money then--he took Dan away
to see Miss Phillips! What, had no money to
600 in his trunk at that time and Ind had since
the ID Of August when Johnson paid TO him, you be-
cye what johnson swears to- Is not singular that the
money in character and amount that lost by Brown
Brothers Co., AID Corre Co? Corre scntion Bank
America blsthc Baltimore bank paid Caldwell in Ba
more money-the Virginia banks paid him in Richmond
money and Lee johnson paid him in gold and precisely
Of Johnson paid him. but it's coincidence that
could happen twice in very long time; and what's
singular they made contract for 500 900
of calculated loosely in negroes in lump at $500
piece although some might be worth $500 some at $3.50
but matter aLout hat but the other $4,000 he Ed
wards particular about, that when the bills and
gold paid and the discount calculated, the money
found to be Short and nice he about this matter
that he actually made Johnson pay the odd 81 so in silver
Mr. Hoffman then went on to show the contradiction be-
tween the letters of Edwards to Johnson publshed) and
the affidavit taking out the commission On the irh OF
April Edwards wrote and told johnson that he had al
ready taken out commission to examine him In Havana
And yet the commission not taken out till the 9Th OF
April On the 18th of February he writes and tells John.
son he is sorry TO hear of his sickness Yet in his affidavit
taking ont the commission The that the 9th OF
Aprhe had Just heard of Johnsons sickness The
mssioncrs st. Thomas and St. Pierre. that they
don't believe there Charles +. Johnson In those
Islands yet the says that Johnson has very
ny negroes in st. Pierre After the commission
turned from Havana, calling himself Charles r.
johnson madc his appearance painting before the commits
soners the 9th Of May states that he just from Char
lestonthat he left that place month before that would
make it about the 9th Of April He, Johnson then
Charleston that dayhe went thence to the Havana armed
with the contract armed with the receipt for the money
armed with the that he has gvenarned with
these letters--to testify just he has testified. And
ON the sarnn sixth nf AnriI Mnnrne ards