The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-12-31
Court OF Enquiry ON Board the North
Carolina.


Carolina.
Third DAv-sArURpAy, DEC. 81.
Inc Court was called to order at the usual hour and
the minutes Of the proceedings of the previous day
read
The cabin crowded with naval officers and citi-
zens
| Mr.. WALES was again called.
| Commodore STEWART addressing him. said you hav o
had some time reflect since giving your testimony YES
nave you any thing to add to your evidence yes
WMEs-Yes, sir wish to add about the difference Of
Cromweis treatment of the boys. When first went
our ne was very tyrannica to the apprentices having
no conversation with them at all but keeping altogether
aioo IRON them and when called upon naict punish.
mehi, would strike with all his might If pleasing to
nm he would whip them hard, the smallest boy.
hougn ne were whipping man. ] have frequently
heafd commander Mckenzie him for whipping
nar he has ordered him STOP Just previous to our
ner towards the boys making free with them and playing
WIN them: have heard Mr.. Spencer tell the
crew and the boys that the Captain gave orders merely
10 see the crew worked that there necessity
IN saii and make sail And when he given thsto-
baoco that spoke about Yesterday to the and the
boys he would say that Capt. Mckenzie would not let
| them have it, he would accommodate them.
BY capt. MckENzE-Did you ever hear Commander
mckenzie reprove Cromwell for cursing the boys?
Ayes, sir, frequently He has sent for him aft and
reproved HMM my presence.
by MCKENZIE Did you ever see Spencer give money
10 any others but Cromwell and Smalll
Yes, TO several can't specify to whom; but have
seen scent hm give shilling and two shilings-throw them
on he deck and let the boys scramble the
i don't know if it would be Of any interest TO the Court
but Cromwell and Small both told they had been in
Com: sTEwARr-We don't want that-confne yourself
to the facts known to yourself
| Nj. HOFFMAN,, in reply to question from Captain
Mckenzie said he thought that any evidence relative to
what was said by any oil the was properly admissi.
o'e, gong 70 show the state Of the crew
a. ~ JUDGE AovocATE-What was you going to say
about Cromwell and Smalll
A-That they told they had been IN slavery that
Cromwell had been taken and carried when
wss liberated by whs had considerable influence
with the Governor ofthe Island.
hint
A.-No.
| O. by Capt: McKESzK-Did you during MIR. spencer's
| caechism when upon the booms, pause and observe
whether he was in earnest7
Ayes, did and found him very serious indeed.
u by Capt MckESzIE-Can you report the oath admin
A--Not the words; it merely that was never to
reveal anything told me- SO help me God, words
The Judge Advocate remarked that all that was the
direct examination.
Capt. McKEszm replied that he knew it was but he
wished the questions put again in the present form.
O. by Capt. McKENzIE-What the state of the crew
good conduct and subordnaton between Newt York
and Madeira.
A. Very good decpline indeed After we left Madeira
for Santa Cruz, could dissatisfactionwe noticed
change and continued increase up to the time that
the executed. As quick the execution took
place there was changethe most sury before said
yesterday, now went quickestto work
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conuc as far you could arising from any treatment
of tie crew
Alt similar precisely, the rules and reguia-
on and duties to perform, before and after reach
ing Madeira.
Qby Capt McKENzIE-Did you ever see list of those
conoernec in the mutiny as drawn up by Spencer
Alias the list purportng to be that list, and
the night it was taken out of Mr.. spencers locker.
Qby Capt McKENzE.-How did you observe sullinness
in those who in the list previous seeing his7
Al did in most of them, and think brought two
three of them up for violence. At this time the master
a1 hto Icko
of the berth deck.
by Capt McKESzE.-How soon after you ascertained
with Mr. Spencer did you understand that the mutiny
Alt go into operation shortly; before our ar
riva at st. Thomas. XIII.
q by Judge AdvocateDid Cromwell tell you the time
whn he was in SLAYER?
A-No, he merely said he had been in one.
Tie evidence Of Mr. Wales being read over to him, he
wasdismssed. MIR. Wales a stout good looking young
man of rather an intelligent air.
Liut GANsEvooRr was the next witness called He is
vey fine looking of athletic form, mild, agreeable
cou,teuance with more apparent intelligence than Capt
Mckenzie.
Q-were you on board the somers during her late
cruise, and in what capacity
A-As LIST Lieutenanttheo only Lieutenant en- board.
CIVIL you state the number, names and rank Of the
A-Tnere were twelve, Commander Mckenzie, my
self Dr. Lincock Purser Heisk Sailing Perry
Mitshipmen Henry Rogers, Egber Thompson, and c. H.
and Totson, Clerk o. H. Perry.
Q--How many men and apprentices were on board?
number.
Q-when did you sail from New York;
A-On the 18th Of September.
dat what time did you arrive at Madeira7
A-The 4th or 9Th of October, do not exactly remem
Der.
don what day was the mutiny first revealed to you
A-On the Goth of November.
Q-On what day was Mr.. Spencer ironed1
A-On the evening of the same day.
Q.-On what day was Cromwell and Small arrested
A. On the next day.
dion what day were they executed
lon the LIST Of Dec
Q-on what day did you arrive at St. Thomas'
AL think on the 9TH.
Q-Will you detail all the circumstances connected
will this affair in your own way
A-On the morning. about ten O'Clock, j met Mr.
Waks by the fore hatch who informed me that Mr. Huis
kill wished to me- went and saw the purser and he
asked me if was aware that there plot on board
to taxe the vessel from the officers, and murder them
replied that know nothing of that he then related to
me What Mr. Wales had told him; that Mr. Spencer had
akeA Mr. Wales up in the boom between the hours OF
and on the previous evening, the 25h, and then aerr
swearing him had made known his plot he told him that
there about twenty concerned with him for the
purpose of taking the vessel out Of the hands OF the off,
GERS; the plan make the forecastle, and
that when the officer of the deck Mr. Rogers would 60
forward to what was the matter they would then
seizehim and throw him overboard then they would go
aft and enter the cabin and murder the commander1and
the other ofcers that is much as remember OF what
then sad did not indeed hear all he had to ssy as
was anxious make the matter known to the command
err He received the matter with great deal of GOODNESS.
and expressed his doubts to struth; remak ed that
the vessel in good discpline asked him if should
Mr. Wales myself and get the story from him. he
said no, he didn't wish me to say anything about it.
Odd he assign any reason for that?
Al don't remember at this time that he did. He or
dered to keep sharp look out Mr. Spencer and the
generally, which dad at dinner time missed Mr..
Spencer from the deck little before two o'clock, dis
covered he in the ore-top, and Immediately went up
there for the purpose of seeing what he was about He
sitting lee side OF the top, with his chin resting
his breast apparently in deep thought He did not OBJ
until had got up in the top, and was standing
erect. He raised his head and soon as he adis.
covered me, exhibited some confusion. He asked me
questions about the rigging about the foremashead
which answered in my usual manner.
BY Com. SrEwARr.-Whal rigging
Astonishing about the fitting of the lower shrouds,
and something about the topmast stays The lower rig
ging was fitted differently from any had ever seen.
observed to him that as came through the seerage the
dinner ready, and all were there but him. and asked
him if he did not dine He said he didn't about 1t
Just then came deck then and left him in the top
should think hour after when discovered Green
the top with him. who appeared TO be engaged in prick
ing ink into the of Spencer The crew employ
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