The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-08-26

ed that those bills be taken up in order, beginning
with those on the table and dIsposng first of those,
to which no objection should be made, and then act
ing on such as should give rise TO debate
Mr. BARNARD objected. The bill providing for
remedial justice, he said, of primary mpor-
lance, had It's place In the regular order of business,
and resolution had been passed TO terminate all de-
bate on II IN one hour.
Mr.. FILLMORE said he would not now press his
motion. He would speak to privileged question.
Some time since the bill making appropriations for
iortihcauons had, on his motion, been laid the ta-
BILE On the same day, in order to keep the bill I'M
der The control OF the majority he had moved re-
consideration OF the by which the bill had been
laid on the table. That disposition of the bill had
been made because no revenue act had then passed
Circumstances are now different Under the impress
sion that the Senate would pursue the course
and pass the Revenue bill first he wished the Forth
cation bill to pass the House possible He,
therefore, called up the motion to reconsider,
Mr. STUART, of Illinois, said he was not opposed
TO fortihcatons, but he unwilling that more APP
preparation acts should be passed, till the Revenue
bill should be definitely disposed of He, therefore,
moved to lay the motion 10 reconsider on the table
On this motion the yeas and nays were ordered.
The result was, yeas 30, nays "a.
The motion to reconsider carried without
count
The bill was read third time and, on motion of
MIR. ARNOLD, the yeas and nays were ordered on
| its passage.
The vote stood, yeas 81, nays 70.
So the bill was passed.
Mr.. COWEN called up the motion to reconsider
the vote by which the resolutions authorizing expert
| menls with Colts marine battery laid on the Ia
bic. The motion carried, and
Mr.. ARNOLD withdrew his melton 10 lay on the
table
MIR. WISE said that by letter which he had re-
ceved from the Secretary Of the Navy, the opinions
expressed by him yesterday confirmed. he
Department has money sufficient and power sufficient
make the projected experimentsbut the Secretary
says, having authorized one experiment, which was
satisfactory he des ed expression of the sense Of
Congress on the propriety of making more.
The question then taken concuring with
the Committee Naval Affairs 10 its amendments TO
| the resolutions referred to. They were concuued In.
On adopting the resolutions, Mr.. ADAMS called
for the yeas and nays He thought that all the money
that had been would be expended on these expert
ments was so much money thrown into the sea All
such plans OF warfare perfectly useless-or it
they should he found effective they could be employed
against well as by US. If we went to war, he
hoped we would fight enemies in manly
way than by submarine batteries. He opposed TO
the passage of the resolutions
After some remarks, in reply, by Mr.. STANLY,
who showed that The plan of Mr. Colt had received
the appreciation OF the most eminent men science,
and SAID II had been recommended good grounds
by Mr. Badger and Mr.. UIshuI, the yeas and nays
were ordered The vote was yeas ITO. nays 81 80
the resolutions were adopted.
After some discussion about the right to the floor,
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON submitted the following
resolution
RESOLVED, That the Secretary of the Navy be d.
reced to report To this House. the LIST Monday in
January, the amount of expenditure account OF the
Exploring Expedition, including the eYpen,e of fitting
out; also showing,
L. The expense of each vessel
Z The amount expended in all purchases, specify
ing the articles purchased and the price.
s. The names of the officers who left the expedition
on leave, or wee sent home charges before
sh.lxl tha.
Ger beyond his regular pay either for extra duties
for services In grade CHER then his lineal rank
a. The names, size and price Of the vessels, that
were lost, when and where lost, with such crcum-
stances attending the loss may be in possession of
the Department, with the names of the officers if any
lost In said vessels; also the Of the officers who
died or were killed.
Objection was made to It's reception, and he motion
to suspend was lost.
Mr. HOPKINS asked that The Post Road bill
should be taken up. Objection was made but on his
motion, the rules were suspended without count. The
amendments of the Committee were concurrcd in
without count. On the passage of the bill, Mr..
FILLMORE called the previous question, but with
drew it at the request of Nj. SMITH, of Virginia.
1t renewed by Mr.. YORKE. After snme con-
versational discussion,
Mr. SMITH and Mr.. POWELL addressed the
House, and then the bill passed without count.
Mr.. AT1ERTON submitted the following reso-
luton:
Resoioed, That the Committee of Ways and Means
be instructed To report bill limiting the rate of dis
count at which the loan authorized by law shall
be negotiated and authorizing the issue of Treasury
notes to supply the wants of the Government in lieu
of much Of said loan cannot be thus nego-
tated
Objection being made, Mr.. ATEIERTON moved
a suspension of The Jules. On his motion he called
for the ayes and noes; which ordered. The vote
stood, ayes 70, noes H. So the rules were not sus-
pended
Mr. GENTRY, from the Committee on Public
Lands, reported a bill repeating the provso to the
sixth section Of the Distribution act.
Mr. WISE inquired whether there quorum
present in the Committee when it had been resolved to
report the bill.
MIR. THOMPSON, of Mississippi, and Mr..
GENTRY explained the circumstances connected
with the action of the Committee on the bill The
former stated that he had been pectedy summon
ed to meeting of the Committee that morning. with
out having received any previous notification of the
subject to be considered he at ended and found but
four others present. This bill was presen ed for con-
sideration; he begged that the subject might be laid
TILL tomorrow, in order that he might ascertain
whether other members of the Committee in the
city, who might be summoned. This request was
fused, and he rose to quit the room-on retiring he
informed that it was resolved to report the BILL
He replied, you may do you please, but will not
now participate in the act 1t must be noted, also,
that the House in session when this took place
and he had adveIed to the fact
Mr.. GENTRY said that the statement of Mr.
Thompson was correct but that a quorum with him
present, and before he left the room the decision
the majority present was known and had been told
him If the action of the committee could be multi
fled by the secession Of single individual or of a mi
noity, there would be end in many cases, of le-
gisatlon The fact must be noticed that there are
hut five members of the Committee now in Washing
ton.
Mr.. WISE rose to question of order. He based
his point of order on two facts. The first is, that
ther yvae M m txphar fIay TO
KEN 1t is not necessary that quorum should be
present during the discussion, but there must be one
at the voting. In the second place, no committee
can sit during the session of the House without an
order from the House. No matter therefore, what
might be the motives of the gentleman from Missis
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