The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-01-06


of the chair, for the purpose OF hearing what the
leman from Tennessee (Mr. Arnold) had to say
F1es of :. beautiful reason"l
Mr.. W. Smith, of Virginia, said he understood II the
csion Of the chair should stand they were again 10 go
alto the whole subject and TO proceed as If they had no
rules at all He understood teo, that the obJectoi TINS
proceeding TO allow the gentleman from Tennessee
(hr Arnold) to settle his d.reuces with the gentleman
from New Hampshire Now we're they convened there
under all the authority of the constitution to open field
eenable gentlemen to settle their private
to be opened enlighten the public mind or TO
settle private fsuds7 Were they take a start again
int the bread from which they had so recently
arrived The au stion as the appeal and he could
only that il the debate opened he should
be DESTROYS to make some remarks himself.
Mr.. srAsLI said that this was only to be an extra
allowance, because the gentleman from Tennessee
stood in peculiar position. Ths was understood to- be
a"hit" at Mr. Smith, whose sO6rq"e is said to be" tx
Mr. Smith said, perhaps the gentleman from North
Carolina Mr stanley hai better make an explanation
when proper time came he would give that gentle
man extra allowance"
Mr. srANLr-As soon as ysu please; shall be ready
M PsorFrr hoped the House would see the necessity
next six months (Laughter) lie wished to ask the
Speaker whether this debate was was not, strictly
In order, and whether il could be pursued because
the Chair originally allowed it to Here gentle
men desired to speak-one that he might answer the
gentlemen from Tennessee the difference Of opinion
existing respecting that State and New Hampshire and
the superiority of their common schoolsanother might
with equal propriety go the subject of finance
the subject Of issuing Treasury notes. end all the
question whether part Of the Presidents Message shall
be referred to the COMMITTEES Of Ways ond Means, or to
the Committee on Manufactures. Now he wished the
people to understand the and to know by whom
the time OF the House wasted and to effect that object
he should call for the ayes and the appeal.
Mr.. ARNOLD said, Mr. Speaker, desire to say one
word in reply to the gentleman from Indiana. Mr..
raised in log cabin, and doubt you have hun.
gry half starved mouse creeping to reDche for
morsel of bread-ond such animals you have seen on
this hoor (Laughter) There is another animal Mr.
Speaker which is seen about the time that peaches be-
Mr.. BowrE called the member from Tennessee to or.
Mr.. Ans0LD, what is the point Of order, was only
talking about Western animal. Laughter)
The SHAKER said the gentleman from Tennessee had
spoken once and could not speak again
lion lQuestion, question Order, ORDER
Mr.. ARNoLD-If the rule is not but for me- call the
gentleman from virginia to order 49,.
he did propose deain the House long this SUBJ
ject He wished only to state the reasons which ndu-
appeal from the decision Of the Chair The House had
passed eight ten days OF its time in the discus
House apportioned the Presidents Message Upon that
question every single subject that could be imagined
had been discussed and examined; they had had per-
sonal auAons, Grimm alton crmi2 aon and this day
the House had been almost into bear garden
And while gentlemen were allowing themselves to in
dulge in such language, where the dignity Of the
representative body Of the people of the United staes7
They there assembled the peoples representa-.
ives and they heard from every side of that Hall the
cry 60 forth that people Distress that they
greaning under distress from end of the land
the ohe- that ruin stares them in the facs-nay that
wheels stopped that the officers of the govern
ment do 10 its very clerks could not receive their
pays and what the peoples representatives dong2
why sitting there wasting their time in protless and
useless dscussion-a discussion, a portion of which
might be very appropriate at the proper time bat was
wholly irrelevant and out Of place And now what
was the question before the Housel Why, after the
Speaker had INDUCED latitude in debate, until he
did not feel justified in stopping it, the House, by
solemn vote, said it had heard enough When the house
sustained the previous question: they decided that they
had heard enough, and they solemnly disposed Of it
But what now was proposed1 Why gentleman got up
and moved ACCOMPLISHMENTS that he intended to
vote for the TO get opportunity
to enter into differences between him and ehers and to
innct upon the House speeches such the House had
heard from him many day. His intention was not to
enlighten the Hause but avowedly to make personal
attack individual member OF the house And what
did the speaker decide7 Why that sthe debate not
strictly in order but had progressed far he was
not entitled to stop it. Before the question taken
the discussion submitted to- but when the question
settled and the dscussiod ended it struck him
tho decision q singular in the extreme. The
discussion out of order and not to be tolera-
ted, and as had been remarked by gentleman
from Virginia, the holidays were over, the first
thirty days of the Session passed. and the people
called upon them to work and not waste their time
such matters He hoped for the honor Of the House
and the credit of the nation the decision would not be
sustained and that the House would say that had had
enough ofths.
Mr.. BARTON said Prospect should prompt them to
put end to this and therefore he moved adjournment
which agreed to.