The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-12-13

last session. The bill was now on the orders Of the
day, and the calendar; and at any time il was in
order to move To proceed TO its consideration. The
reference of the subject, to the Committee Of Ways
and Means, therefore, would not prevent the House
from considering the bill already reported. The
bill embraced, by no means, the plan submitted by
the Executive Department; II was modified in many
particulars and if the subject should be referred to
the Committee of Ways and Means, the House could
30 and discuss the bill He did not consider II ne
cessary to refer that part of the Message to the Com
mittee of the Whole TO insure speedy action.
Mr.. CUSHING observed that the gentleman from
New York proposed course which met with many
objections. If, for instance he Mr.. Cushing should
to morrow, move to go into committee for the
purpose of taking up the bill, it would be
said, swat until we get the report Of the Ways
and Means" And what was the reason Of the re-
ference proposed by the gentleman Because there
was a bill on the calendar matured year ago; and
he said too that the bill not identical, and
not the precise scheme recommended in the Presi-
dents Message! Ii would be recollected that the
House, at the last session, referred the project to
the friends of the measure who reported bill to the
House. But what did the gentleman proposei To
refer this subject TO its friendsl Certainly not
Then what his objecti To take it from its
friends and suffer il to be crushed damned and de-
stroyed Was That the object! If it was it was
not just, and was contrary TO the rules of proceed
ngs as put down down in the books Of Parliamentary
law, and good policy Therefore he (Mr. c. ad
expeditions course should be adopted at once, and the
subject be referred to the Committee Of the Whole
the state Of the Union, and considered forthwith
Mr. PlCKENS was disposed TO go with the gentle
man from Massachusetts,, because he DESTROYS of
giving to the Executive a fair hearing before the
country, and as he gentleman from Massachusetts, as
of the peculiar friends of the President anxious
that it should be done, he willing that the subject
should be taken up in Committee Of the Whole as
soon as the gentleman from Massachusetts might
h,,th o n,,lA nofo fort tho
A message was here received from the Senate,
stating that they had elected Mr. fusion, Chaplain of
that body. and that Messrs. Woodbury. and Tappan
constituted the Committee of the Library on the part
of the Senate, and Messrs. Sprague and Williams the
Committee on Enrolled Bills
Mr.. EVERETT said that he was willing 10 give
the plan of the Executive fair chance ii seemed
that heretofore it had not had fair chance. II was
committed to its friends last session. and they damned
it. During the last session, there was not single
moment when il could have obtained single vote in
the House. He judged from opinions which he then
heard expressed. He wished the subject to be re-
ferred to the Committee of Ways and Means, with
instructions to report that Identical BILL without any
alterations; no not even the crossing of nor the
dottng Of an i.
Mr.. c. j. INGERSOLL inquired of the gentle
man, whether the particular features of the bill and
those of the perfect of the Executive were not ma
terially at variance :
Mr.. CUSHING said that this was question not TO
be answered by "yes," or s'no" But if the House
would permit him, he would reply to the question.
MIR. INGERSOLL repeated the interrogatory.
Mr.. CUSHING again replied that he would an
swer, if the House would permit him.
Cries Of "Go on" s'go on!''l
The SPEAKER said that the gentleman could pro-
coed by general consent.
Mr.. CUSHING then said that the bill presented by
the Treasury Department, and the bill submitted by
the Select Committee, substantially the same in
purpose-each proposed an Exchequer plan. They
differed in these two points and the gentleman from
Pennsylvania might, if he thought proper consider
them more or less material. The bill reported by
the Select Committee allowed an issue of only dollar
for dollar the cash coin in the hands Of the Ex-
chequer Board, whilst the bill from the Treasury De-
partment allowed an issue of three to one. The bill
from the committee excluded all dealing in exchange
the part of the Exchequer the plan of the Trea-
sury Department authorized the dealing in exchanges
on certain conditions and to certain extent and
Mr. Bolts inquired of the Speaker whether it
was in order for the gentleman to go into defence
Of this measure!
Mr. CUSHING denied that this was his intention
Mr. Bolts objected to the gentleman's remarks
The SPEAKER said that the gentleman was in
order
MIR. CUSHING was about TO resume his remarks,
when he was again interrupted by
Mr.. Bolts, who inquired whether he under
stood the Chair to say that the gentleman from Mas
sachusetts was in order. while he was going into
discussion of the Exchequer bill
The SPEAKER remarked hat the gentleman from
Massachusetts was merely proceeding to show the diff
ference between the two Bills and that general con-
sent had been granted for that purpose, and ohec-
ton interposed.
Mr.. Bolts inquired whether it was now in or
der to refuse discussion Of BILL which fits gene
raj merits had been presented, unworthy of the
parchment on which it was written.
Nj. CUSHING repeated that be was not going
into gene, al discussion.
The SPEAKER said that the gentleman from
Massachusetts was simpy coDfning himself to the
distinction between the bill and the project from the
Department
ed the difference between the two.
Mr.. INGERSOLL expressed his gratitude for the
answer which he had received. He was decidedly
and immoveaby opposed to the Presidents project and
could not for it under any crcumst ances-
Therefore he desired that it be referred TO the Com
mttce Of Ways and Means, Or to any other Commit
tee but he was disposed to allow the bill alluded 10
by the gentleman from Massachusetts, to take what
ever course he (Mr. CUSHING nigh, suggest. He
was opposed to any Treasury plan which origi-
mated with the Executive. 1t was hiph time
that the House should resume the rights of which il
had Invested itself and, in beginning this they should
here. And this was his reason for wish
ing to know what these two projects were.
The question being stated on agreeing TO the mo-
ton of Mr.. CUSHING
Mr.. E. ERETT proposed an amendment to the
original resoIution-to refer much of the Message
as relates to the Exchequer to the Committee of
Ways and Means, with Instructions to report bill in
strict conformity with that reported at the last
son. OH the recommendation of the Secretary of the
Treasury, and approved by the Presidents and also
10 report whether in their opinion, it ought to pass
Mr.. HOLMES opposed the amendment, and hoped
that it would not prevail.
Mr. JOHNSON, of Maryland, was in favor of re-
erring ,he subject before the House to the Commit
lee of the Whole, and was anxious that the country
should know, at once, what TO be the fate of this
financial measure.
Mr. CUSHING moved to modify his motion, by
striking ut the second resolution proposed by the
gentleman from New York (NIr. Fillmore) and SUBJ
shutting, in eff, ct, follows That much of the
Message relates to the proposed alteration in the
laws establishing the Treasury Department, be refer
To the Co1n1ifiee of The Mhole he lat Of