Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1842-02-18

MIR c. proceeded 10 comment upon the increase
Of expenses and augmentation Of officers under the
standardization Of the different Collectors OF New
| York. He proved there had been great increase;
and concluded from the facts stated IN Document,
that there hal been gross and ntoerable abuse oil
power.
sis BUCHANAN replied, playiuily at 6rst, to
| some side speeches OF the Senator from Kentucky,
and then proceeded with more gravity TO the sist oil
the subject. He would not consent that the great
crime should be avoided, or that It should be
tom. house Of New York. In regard TO Mt SSart
vout, he served out two terms. Then Mr Van Bu
rem refused 10 re appoint him. General jackson
appointed him because he thought him an honest
man. We were al, however, liable TO be mistaken
in regard to public men; and, once finding out our
error, all that could be done remove the OBJ
noxious officer. Mr. h. eon,ended, also, that he
had not been convicted of inconsistency IN regard
TO the authority by which this commission was APP
pointed, or any eommission. He believed the
authority not vested in the President. and that
i, must come from Congress. Hisopinion was now,
upon this subject what il always had been, aud TO
Inconsistency had been pointed out.
Mr. CLAY hoped he should be excused for ad-
dressing few words more 10 the Senate, though
his state of health admonshed him to be silent In
regard 10 the officers in the Government, he would
say they had no; been cns enough in Office TO cor
rect all the abuses OF the Government which had
! existed for 50 many years. They had not been
long enough in ofhco to ferret them out. Il was
known 10 the whole country that tho relations
OF the Wing party had no, been of that confidential
character necessary 10 success. twas known, too,
that the heads Of the present Departments had not
been there for more than Eve mon,hs-,hat changes
mad been made growing out OF difference OF opn-
ION among friends But he would say that the an
nails Of no country had exhibited such q state Of
thinss--sueh a determined adherence to priueipe
as had been manifested by the wings since M
vcnioer last. Had it been otherwise. they would
| not have refused terms with the Executive. They
seorned 10 abandon their principles. and would re-
ceive patronage Tor themselves ard their friends
upon no such terms And yet gentlemen here who
VISITED the Executive mansion in crowds, and were
praisins him every day, were calling upon u, be
fore there was time TO make reforms, 10 correct
abuses which had existed for years. This putting
and prsising OF the Presdent, from whom the Wings
IN Congress were most unfortunately aliena,ed.
was for no other purpose than to misleai tie Pre-
s6ent. He would not imre,eh the motives Of gem
teuncn who made these advances. he would not
say what the motives we're. he would state wis,
was his conviction, and shat was. that the gentlemen
had no design of supporting the Executive in any
Of his pubic measures.
Sir c. then replied more f,,ly to the Senator from
Pennsyivauia, who had defended the ex-PseSieni
a. the hermitage for offences which he would now
charge upon this Administration. lie would change
the NAME because there was a ch1nge Of Admins.
tration. Gentlemen could not conceal or defend
the late Administrations. They might oa upon
The mountains TO defend them, ba, they were not
broad enough 10 do so.
! MIR CLAY apologised for consuming so much
time IN The debate. He had been drawn into the
discussion more fully than he wished by III. re-
marks OF the Senator fom Pennsylva who hal
volunteered in the discussion.
I MIR BUCHANAN wa, not disposed The s.idl 10
have the last word IN the discussion, and would
insist upon il However, he had a few word, to
say, and would say them seriously. In regard 10
the Administration, he had done no more than 10
: defend the head of i, for his two veioe,. He be-
iieved the President 10 be very homes, smiabe
> l-llaushier.l MIR 3. oniinued-amiable and hon.
est man, but nothing had oeen ssid in MS defence
t,tvk
Upon ali other questions there had been concrr.
renee Of opinion between the President and the
Wings in Congress. He regretted tha, there wa.
not more unity Of opinion between them, and that
there seemed no pa y in the Senate 10 defend the
President
MIR CLAY said he regretted also, and mos,
, deeply, the state OF relations which unhappiy
: existed between the Executive and the Ledslstve
branches of the Government. lie could appeal 10
the Senator and the Senator's friends that he had
endeavored 10 avoid l.. We found, as one inheT.
lance, an empty Treasury, 4 bankrupt Government,
e embarrassment everywhere. We are compelled 10
- supply these deficiencies, and how had we been
g aided IN this state OF embarrassment by the gentle
u men interested much in the preservation Of
the honor OF the countryl Gentlemen had opposed
US IN ali our efforts 10 reli.ve the Government
e most Of the measures OF the extra session. He
thought, in this opposition, gentlemen had no; dealt
: with their opponents as they had been dealt by,
, when they were IN power, and had right 10 pre-
: scribe their own forms Of measures.
u ne gent. emen win whom he acted here were
disposed and would supper, the Administration
wherever they could and in regard TO the present
It state OF things he hoped that they would result in
good particularly as the spirit OF patriotism seemed
to be invoked by men OF all parties. Mr. c. re-
erred TO the acts OF the extra session of Congress
and particularly to the two bank bills, for the pur.
pose OF saying thst he had been misunderstood in
being understood a, opposing the Two bank bills
{. without any qualification. Much in the two bank
bills he did oppose, and he had looked forward 10
improve them III supplementary bills.
MIR BUCHANAN said he would say no more
now 10 continue the discussion, but up-n a future
occasion he should show that the opponents OF the
Administration had been justified in their opposi-
ton to the loan and other bills.
Mr. CLAY. Very well, sir. "Come on Mac.
duff"
MIR CALHOUN now rose to continue the discus
sion. Mr. c. said he would no; have said word
i the Senator from Pennsylvania (Mr Buchanan
had not referred TO him as he had. He had accused
HIM OF defending the system OF economy by general
declamo;ion.
Mr. BUCHANAN rose 10 explain, and sid there
was nothing in the world further from his intention
than 10 reflect upon the Senator from South Caro-.
Ina BE had said so in public and private, and
upon all occasions. All he meant to say was, ,ha,
reform could never be accomplished by general dis
cussion. Detail was necessary.
Mr. CALHOUN said he did not understand the
Senator from Pennsylvania. IL inferred tia,
he had by general discussion sustained the reform
proposed when be had gone on and az preat per-
OF reform. Mr. G. said he was for reform and the
only way TO accomplish it was by correcting erro-
neous opinions in regard to the protective system
and the taxing power We robbed the People in
} levying taxes IL was plumber and nothing more.
and reform ana reITenchment could be accomps he'd
in no other way than by correcting the erroneous
doctrines which had grown up here in regard to the
Y taxing. He had voted alone for years. and feared
that he should have 10 go on and vote alone, As he
J, certainly should.
: MIR BUCHANAN sad, he found himself be.
tween two hres-ihe Senator from Kentucky on
u the right, and the Senator from South Caroiua or
the left. lie had said that the Senator from s.
Carolina had made speech upon mere genernliiies
n lie only said that the remarks Of the Senator did
% not apply the remedies They pointed out the re-.
Y medy cn'y.
i. Mr. WOODBURY. explained the action of the
opponents OF the Administration in opposing the
'r Loan Bill O the Extra Session. These reason,
were the sans before gven-an o. lection 10 The
le mode, and the opinion that the money asked for
= not wanted at the time. In regard to the in.
n crease OF expense in the New YORK custom house
J. Mr. w. contended that the increase, from the adj.
= ministrnton Of Jonathan Thompson, had not been
n more than the imports, which added proportiona,e
n ly to the labor.
h Mr. w, after commenting upon the Land BIZ
}, very briefly entered into comparison and de-
tail TO sustain his position.
n Mr. CLAY hoped the fact that a new opponen,
had come into the field would be an excuse for his
Q continuing the discussion. The Senator had ,po