Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1842-01-08

49, ,,,s oncc An Irish orator, native II Dublin,
perhaps most distinguished citizen, by tue name VI
/ Edmund Burke and that there WIS aiso sco'chiia
bvlhe same SURNAME, who was very distins usiied IN
yday He did not wish TO irausgrrss the rules VI tiis
House no. would he, il liz could possibly avoid IL ou'
h. would like TO know from winch Of these distinguish
ed citizens the geniiemcn from y Hampshire es"'eu
his lineage. TN
| Mr.. BlJRkE (apan very indistnctly heard) was
understood 10 INQUIRE whence the gentleman claimed
his>ineage' ,.-
Mr.. ARNOLD That was zeal New Hampshire
trick lie regretted TO the gentleman 50 sensitive
| He must apply en hun that stale remark,
4 .'Ilr sali Jad w'hers,
Her m,tiet, ar. wri wrums."
Ana ,b.v would be better Jung before he LETT them.
THO gentleman did not choose IL answer, and he (Mr
AZ therefore took il for granted from the course pnr-
sued b. hun on this occasIen that ne Canned MS
lineage from this Scotch Burke, the "reSutrecti"n-
ISL" whose profession I" GO about about with ban
d,tti and when they could not get fresh grave 10
open they took the living and clapped them into bag;
and that was called "Burking them lie supposed
| the gentleman thought he would . Burke hun, (Alr
! ID bu, in attempting to "bufk' hn me gentleman
had been exceedingly uniormnsie, and had "Burked
his own friends had dsinierrcd one Of Them had raised
or rrsurrccted IA laugh one oil Them lie (alr Az
meant the distinguished member OF Tie tennessee Lee
gsla,ure, Mr.. Dew. lie wished 10 show few dscre-
pouces Of the speech Of the honorable gentleman rom
New llnmosh;re. and would begin with his disin.
guished Democratic friend in the Tennessee Legsla
ture.
Mr. BOVINE called the gentleman from Tennessee
Mr., ARNOLD said it was too e in the day.
The SPEAKER requested the Seitleman 10 state his
point of order.
tie motion to reconsider the vote Of yesterday, and
what relation, he asked, have the remarks OF the gen.
tcman To- this question: How were they german or
pertinent 10 the question: they not he object
ed to them. The dignity Of THIS House. well as Of
the nation required that such debate as they had had
the main question: and now attempted TO be con-
tnued, should lie put an end TO
Mr. BURKE appealed TO the gentleman from New
York TO withdraw his point Of order. lie wished the
gentleman from Tennessee (lr Arnod) 10 b. allowed
to proceed.
Mr. STANLY snid, if the gentleman from n. York,
(Mr Bowne) had been anxious to preserve the dignity
Of this House. and had come here week ago tor tins
purpose, he (Mr: S. would have "nnt with hun IN It,
But the debate had gone in the widest range, and
the gentleman from Tennessee InsNe'sd himself and
his constituents grossly assauNhd: and now common
Justice decency, and the dignity Of this House re-
CURED that the gentleman should he allowed the same
latitude, in reply to what had been said on the main
question.
Mr. BOVINE said unfortunately he was not in the
House during great portion OF the debate what lie
had heard of il he had regretted to hear
The SPEAK Err said that, strictly, the debate was
not in order nor had been much OF that allowed the
main question. The debate had widened out by de-
grees and the Chair did not consider HIMSELF after the
debate had gone far al liberty 10 arrest 1t now The
question of order had been raised days since by
the gentleman on his left {air G. Dayls and the Chair
had at that time felt himself al liberty TO arrest The
debate, wide range had been already allowed by
the House. AS long the remarks were not person
al, the Chair could not arrest the debate.
Mr. WILLIAM o. BUTLER appealed from the de-
cislon Of the Chair, and called tie yeas and nays on
the appeal
New v Hampshire had been in o. J" his remarks had
been merely defending himsclvironl an assault made
in the course of the debate IL protested against the
debate being allowed 10 go sny further and hoped
the dignity OF the House would suppress suck discus
SION
MIR. ARNOLD wished the gentleman had thought Of
the digrity Of the House t earlier.
| Mr.. WISE inquired # the CHAIR had decided that
these remarks were not in order
| Mr.. SPEAKER; Not strictly IN order
Hlr. WISE said, during tie organization of this
House latitude Of debate had been allowed greater
than usual; but the House, by the previous question,
had othe debaethe majority had already ar
rested it, And now the guest0' vas raised entirely
anew, whether such debate wholly irrelevant, and
ayowed 10 be So, should be renewed again. When was
il To stop: II the House let neubcr rise and re-
spond to remarks which had been made the debate
Of the main question, others nnt be permitted to re-
ply in all fairness and where wee they to stop lie
hoped the House would dispose tins questions oil re-
ference and let j, stand where Il wos
/ Mr.. GlLMER had understood the Chair TO decide
tina, this debate no, orde nd inquired if he ~as
mistaken III this,
The SPEAKER said he had decided that, strictly
speaking, the debate irrrcrnnt and would be out
oil ORDER except for the indulgence that had been AREA
dy allowed by the House. The debate had been per-
united TO take such latitude that the Chair now over
| ruled the question OF order.
Mr.. GILNlER sa,d when he arose he was under the
impression tina, The Chair had decided that the debate
of order and intending To suggest that the
member could no, proceed withcyt leave Of the House,
and that the question Of leave. would be first IN order
before the question on The appeal:
Mr.. CHARLES BROWN said this merely a
question whether they would reconsider The vote, and
this discussion was not now order. He trusted the
course OF debate wonld lie stopped and then, when the
House had agreed reconsider they would be IN their
original position the question be open to debate, and
he should wish 10 debate II.
Mr.. ARNOLD SAID, of all gentlemen he had ever
seen on this floor, he thought the gentleman from the
precincts OF Philadelphia (Alr Brown ought 10 be the
last raise the question oil ir5elcvancy. lie had heard
him (Mr. Brown) make many speeches, aud his own
friends had generally said they had nothing to do with
the subject.
Mr.. FILLMORE desired to> call attention to the sd
rule Of the House. which he read TO show that the ques.
4 ton was not debaable.
The SPEAKER, in reply, se!erred TO another rule,
which, as he considered, authorized members wishing,
to speak on the subject.
! MIR. GiLMER said, with perfect Difference TO the
Char, he would PROFOUND single question. He had
cd the Char TO decide that this debate was
sir city ont Of order and, notwithstanding the Char
permitted j, proceed lie would inquire Of the Char
where he derived the authority TO permit debate strict
ly ont Of order TO proceed al nll'
i Mr.. STANLY, called the gentleman from Virginia
(Mr. Gilmer) 10 order.
The SPEAKER replied that he could not arrest the
debate his own responsibility, after IL had been IN
dulgcd BY the universal leave and sanction OF the
House.
MIR. ARNOLD said he rely wished TO say in JUST
fcaon of himself and the Speaker would bear witness
10 the truth ot that nj the beginning OF this debate nc
man had regretted it than lie did; and seeing how
il was widening by degrees, until It should cover the
whole face of the ear he had gone 10 the Speaker 70
know if there was rule by which they could
stop this discussion. The Speaker had told him there
was not, lie had been Obliged 10 submit; the debate
had gone aud on; and in reply 10 lew remarks OF
the gentleman from New Ii"mpshme, the whole dele
CATION Of tina, State had poured on hun their indigna
lion and only he, but Ils constituents had been
mos, furously assaulted; and now he utterly as