The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-07-04
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IN SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENTS VETO
MESSAGE-JusE 80.

Mr. WELLER said he should not now say word
but for the remarks which had been made by gentle
the other side Of the House. in relation to IN,
party TO which he was attached In principle and AZ
feeling. But number of the leaders OF he domt
nant party here had said that the veto of the Presi
dent upon the little tariff was the contamination Of
the treaty which had been long in progress between
the Pr sident and Democratic party. The chairman
oil Ways and Means-a man occupying no ordinary
position, and whose declarations were entitled TO
respect and consideration had told the House that III
yetong this bill the President only consummated The
treaty which had been pending during the last SIX
months. Here, then, was declaration from re-
sponsiDle gentleman, who ordinarily PAID great re-
spect 10 the opinions OF others, and VINO was ever
careful in the utterance of his own The gentleman
said that the Democratic party now mad their man
they had what they always contended for, and what
II was their character to seek-the spoils Did the
gentleman Mr.. FILLMORE recoilect the 4th OF March,
lS4I, when this city filled with hordes OF Office
seekers Did he remember the thousands from his
own State, who then came on TO Washington hunting
for the spos2 What authority then had he for charg
ing the Democratic party with longing after the
spoils' The gentleman must have Judged the Demo-
cratic party by his own or it might be, if he had
gotten his share OF those very spos he would be in
better humor than at present.
But Continued Mr.. W. could the gentleman from
New York Mr.. FiLLMoRE] show that one member
OF the Democratic party IN the House had been an
applicant for any appointment whatever under the
present Administration Was II not known that the
very men now most hostile to the Presid, mt were
those who had been rejected were, in fact, disap-
pointed applicants for the spoils There would, he
imagined, have been no complaint against Mr.. Tyler,
had he shaped his measures to suit them, and given
them the Offices which were asked as his hands. In
that case, there would have been complaints, and
charges Of perfdy from the universal Wing party.
If he recollected rightly, the gentleman from New
York. Mr. GRANGER, lwho left certain cabinet SO
mysteriously said that he stood now were he stood
in l840 when he fought the memorable battle of that
year with the universal Wing party. He stood then
by cider barrel, upon the broad platform of a
skin. Laughter. Where does he stand now
Laughter. What were then his principles He
did not ask the question in jest, but earnestlywhat
were the principles avowed in that contest' Did the
universal Mig party pledge themselves that land
bill should be passed No; not, at least, in this
section of the country. There, the question of the
distribution of the land fund was not discussed at all
Yet the party tell the House this is of their
principles All he had to say was, that they never
avowed them when they were seeking power
The gentleman from New York (Mr. Granger)
said he stood up here defence of his fixed priuc
pies. What were those principles when that gen,le
man entered the cabinet fthe Presdent-what we're
they when he went out2 Laughter The gentle
man said The Democratic party commended for the
spoils. Will he tell Us how many victims gull
lotined whilst he remained in the Post Office Depart
meni! Were there no spos then for which the gen.
tleman himself conended
MIR. GRANGER said he would answer the question
which had been put to him. The number was sew
enteen hundred.
Mr.. WELLER. Yes seventeen hundred individu
as turned out of office during the short OF the
gentleman; and had he remained in office two
weeks longer
Mr.. GRANGER would also give the gentleman IN or
nation on this head Had he remained two weeks
more, three thousand would have been added to the
list; making 4, 700 in all.
Mr.. WELLER. These seventeen hundred men
were vicmized to this lust after the spos before the
gentleman himself became victim, laughter This
too, Is the gentleman who talks about the SPOTS I'm
agine the honorable chairman of the Committee of
Ways and Means, with his pockets full of recommen
datlons going to the Post Office Department To get
the gentleman (Mr. Granger) to remove whose
only crime was, that they voted for Mr. Van Buren,
for President2 He (Mr w undertook to say that
numbers were removed for other reason, except
their having voted for Mr.. Van Buren,. The gentle
man Mr.. Granger) said to himself when debera-
ting upon proposed removal, "Did this man vote
fol Mr.. Van Buren, 2-that is the question:" laugh.
ter He put it to the gentleman to say, whether he
did not remove numbers on that ground alone.
Mr.. GRANGER SAID he not now prepared to an
swer the question; but the Post Office Department
would show as nice a set of records were ever
kept, prior To any execution.
Mr.. WELLER said that might be considered an an
swer by some, but he could no, regard it. He
wnu show the gentleman case Of removal on the
ground he had referred to, but that he supposed the
&c teman was aware of all the circumstances. He
Gould refer to instances in his own district.
Hath gentleman from New York { MrGranger)
retained his share of ''the spos," probably he
would not have broken out into such an invective
against the Executive He no di.respect to the
honorable gentleman; for, personally he entertained
kindly feelings towards him
Some gentlemen had discussed the question before
the House, as if the House of Representatives had
all the power OF the Government fit was designed
by the Constitution that the House alone should
acl laws, why all bills sent to the Senate and
the President for their concurrence! Was the sigma
ture OF bill by the President mere matter of form
Was ne bound to sanction every measure presented
to hun 2
The advocates Of this Junior tariff bilI-hs twelve
line, or half an honr, measure-had said that il had
the sanction of people; that il was the essence of the
popular will and tha' in vetolng it, the President
had shown dsrespccl to the will of the people, as ex
pressed through their Representatives. The Pres-
dent he thought, had as much right to say that he
was acting in conformity 10 the will of the people as
Congress. That the majority here misrepresenl their
constituents We had evidence from the ballot box at
,le recent elections throughout the country. There
was no. reasonable doutt about the fact. The PEG.
pie might have voted the Wings into power in 1916
but they bad right to change their opinions and the
result Of The elections showed that they bad changed
1t was strange, passing strange that gentlemen, in
discussing the important principles of bill like this,
could not do so without reproving the Democratic
party. The Democratic party have had to answer
for what were called the sins of the Executive
Whilst the Wings had all the distinguished Offices
and posts of honor, and nearly all the patronage of
the Govern ent, they still persisted in charging the
Democratic party with attachment and a banker
ing after the spoils. He (Mr. w. took occasion to
say that he had not been applicant for Office from
this Administration. Yet, he believed that the Pre-
sident actuated solely by the desire to advance
the interest of his country For this opinion he might
be called friend Of the President and his peculiar adpo-
cafe. But he cared not He Mouid soon 20 to the rich
raiey Of the Ohio and there make his appeal to the intel
igent people Of that country If he shoud'be put do,cn
he should take pleasure in going out of Congress
than he had in coming here.
He referred to the various charges made against
the Democratic party, who were called Jewellers,
agrarians, barn-burners sc. He disregarded hese
charges, because they we're brought against every
who dared to raise his voice against exclusive