The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-08-12

fort since 1877 distinguishing between what was ex-
pended for construction and what for repairs.
Mr.. MCKAY suggested that the information re-
quired, with one exception could be found IN TWO
documents already printed.
After explanations of similar character from
| Messrs. MALLORY and UNDERWOOD, the
amendment was withdrawn.
| Mr.. GRAHAM moved that the committee rise
| and report the bill, with recommendation that ii
| should be rejected.
| protracted debate ensued, participated in by
| Messrs. MALLORY, HABERSHAM, and COOP
| Err, of Georgia
| MIR. CUSHING followed and said He was in
| favor Of the bill. Gentlemen argued If the world
was to come to end to-day TO morrow, or that
| Congress would adjourn without making provision
TO carry on the Government Mr.. &. did not believe
this He intended TO vote accordingly Besides, if
II was true, his colleague said yesterday that we
were IN the midst of civil war, that civil war was
now declared, and that, in a given contingency, the
| appeal was to the God of battles, somebody would
need the large guns either the corporaPs guard and
the general of the parliamentary army, his colleague
| Mr. Adams for If there Charles there must
| be Cromwell He begged pardon for testing on such
| such a subject but he thought Jest was the
| ht response to the rhetorical extravaganza of
| Nir. Adams MIR. CUSHING then replied to
| some remarks of Mr.. ADAMS the Army bill.
MIR G. had, some time before, spoken of the Presi-
dent as being coordinate department of the Gov
| eminent, having legislative functions. Mr. Adams
|
showing that not only Madison in the Federast, but
Jefferson and Story, and Kent, in their eommenta-
| ries, thus viewed the Constitution Mr. A. had re-
joined, by quoting John Locke. Mr.. c.. said that
| Locke, who wrote nearly century before, was and
could be authority for the meaning and import Of
| clause of the Constitution. Mr.. G. proceeded fur
Their 10 justify the language he had used and pro-
duced the written report of speech of MIR. Evans,
of Maine made in the Senate the 25h July, 1912,
in which Mr.. f.. appealed to the President as /" the
dem nf
and concluded by saying that if his idea needed any
justification from living authority, he desired none
| better than Mr.. Evans
Mr.. ADAMS followed in a brief reply to his col
| league.
| Mr.. CUSHING said, havs but one word to say
never did assert that the President is branch of
the Legislature or Department OF the Legls ature.
Mr.. POPE, OF Kentucky, said the debate had la
ken vide range, AID he would say something not
very relevant lie not alarmed at the Veto
The Legislature of the Territory in which he was
Governor sometimes compelled him to use the Velo.
he had, one particular occasion especially exer-
ciscd the power in matter deeply affecting the pro-
perty of the citizens. There there appeal 10
IT. God of battles. There appeal to the peo-
pie, and two-thlrds we've iound-not oppo-ed to the
Governor-but in favor of the Veto. In Kentucky
once, lava relief aw-passed the House, passed
the Senate, and was approved blythe Governors and
was etoed by the Courts. We then a CT
J vii war Muskets loaded for the ght, but IN
spite of all menace and opposition, the Veto power
} was triumphant and no harm followed. No alarm
need be felt account of the Veto. We could do as
is done IN England The monarch, it is SAID has not
for long tne exercised the Veto, but he has the
power to dissolve Parliament, and appeal directly TO
the people, whenever he differs with the Legislature
The Executive here dissolve Congress-bui ii
will soon be dissolved by the Constitution, and we
then appeal to the high tribunal OF the people,
and they will decide account of the Veto With
respect to the bill, he would but say, that no harm
could happen to the stone walls of the Qualifications
before next spring He wished Therefore the bill &c
be postponed, account of the state OF the Treasury
| and to give time for investigation be wished the
consideration of the bill deferred to the next session.
and, at the time that system of rigid economy
should be established.
Mr.. ARNOLD foIlowed-spoke principally in re-
ation to his bill for retrenchment.
t Mr.. BOVINE argued that the disasters consequent
the miscarriage of the Tariff bill must be attribu
ted to the Wing majority, who would couple subjects
so dissonant as the revenue and distribution ques-
tons.
Mr.. FILLMORE followed, and, in conclusion
moved that the Committee rise
MIR. IRWIN asked that the motion should be with
drawn, that five minutes might be allowed him to
speak
The motion to rise was insisted on, and prevailed
When the report had been made, Mr.. KENNEDY
| moved an adjournment
! Mr.. IRWIN to privileged question. He
learned from the journal that he had been appointed
one OIL the select committee 10 winch tle etO mes
sage of the President had been referred. Consider
ing that the Constitution prescribed the mode for dis
posing of the objections of the President considering
that the House had performed the duty prescribed
by the Constitution by Speeding the objections on the
Journal and believing that neither House has the
right to devate from the mode prescribed by the Con-
stltutia n, he could not consent
Here Mr.. IRWIN called to order.
He said he wished to assign his reasons for de-
clinng to on the committee In justice to him
self he thought he ought to assign them. He hoped
the gag would not be applied every occasion.
He again called to order.
He then said can't asst On my reasons
The SPEAKER replied yes proper reasons-such
as arise under the rules Of the Hause, but no
others
Mr.. IRWIN said, appeal from the decision of the
! Chair
After various points raised by Messrs. BERNARD
and Bolts, and explanations required by Messrs.
| WISE and MARSHALL, Mr. BOLTS moved to lay
the appeal on the table The yeas and nays were
ordered and, the vote stood-yeas Is, nays "a
! The question recurring excusing Mr.. IRWIN,
he said he had but little to say, and in saying that
| little would endavor to conform to the rules
prescribed by the SPEAKER. He disclaimed all
idea of impeaching the motives OF the House
i'm referring the objections to Committee
Ii was not for an individual to do But
according to his views, the House having spread
the objections the Journal as the Constitution pre-
scribes all other action them in contravention
to the Constitution He could not, conscientiously
be an instrument for the preparation of an act
| which he conceived to be unconstitutional The
committee he thought, appointed in conflict with
the Constitution, and therefore, he could not serve
| Oh it.
| On the question being taken, he excused and,
on motion of Mr.. EVERETT, the House adjourned