The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-09-01

| Of the Porpoise while member of the court, and
| did not he sail with her from Honolulu!
| HE was first Lieutenant OF the Porpolse, and
sailed from Honolulu with her.
| q On all occasions when the vessels OF the squa-
dron were In port, were not the officers employed In
scientific duties, and were they not more employ
| ed while In harbor on those duties than when al
| seat
| The officers of the squadron were generally
| more employed in scientific duties while in port
than at sea In fact all the duties of the officers
| were much more onerous while in harbor than they
| were at
The evidence of,he witness was read ever by the
| Lieut. RNaaoLD recalled by Mr.. Hamilton, and
examined through the Judge Advocate.
| Owen; the officers and crew Of the squadron
| SO employed at CalIao that Court Martial could
not have been held without great delay, and injury
| to the public servicel
| A "A Court Martial might have been convened,
| but not without delay and Inconvenience; our du-
ties were generally more laborous in port than at
Q.--Would not the conyening Of a Court at sgd
ney been attended with like consequences from
A-Yes We were more employed at Sydney
than at Calao, preparing for the southern cruise.
| q Gould court have been convened at any
other. place than Honolulu, without similar ef
| fects I
Al think not; thought it was very mpolitic to
| hold court even there
Q What was Lieut.. Wilkes general reputation
| in the squadronl
| Al was not in the habit Of having familiar in
tercourse with the officers OF the squadron He had
reputation for great industry and interchangeable per
| severance In the discharge OF his duties He was
| thought harsh OF by some, suppose He had more
| reputation for the former than the latter.
| Q-Were not those who spoke harsh Of him those
alone with whom he had had official difficulties I
Mr. PEAIE called by Mr. Hamilton and examined
| through the Judge Advocate.
Q-Siate what you know of the occurrences at
| Clermont Tonnerre, on the 10th August, 1882
| Al was one OF the scientific corps. was In one
of the last boats which approached the shore that
occasion. There were number OF natives collected
| on the beach, resisting the attempts to land, by
| throwing stones, and making motions for the boats
to keep of. Capt. Wilkes was in the boat nearest
TO the shore, and many stones and pieces OF coral
were thrown into his boat by the natives He called
to me. / was in the boat with It. Perry and re-
quesed to know If Il was provided with small shot,
saying he could not land until the natives dri
ven away, but that he did not want to hurt them or
| words to that effect. | was delayed in using the
small shot as he requested, by having to draw the
balls from my gun 1t wasa fowllng-pleee OF small
| caibre. He told me TO " shoot at them as soon as
was ready, but not to hurt them more than could
help, but merely TO sting them" When shot the
second time and not until then, the natives lett the
beach and we landed. wanted to go short dis
lance from tho beach, but called back by Cap
tain Wilkes, who stated he was afraid we would
again get in contact with the natives. We remain
ed shore about half hour, making observations
| without leaving the beach.
| Odd you see Mr. Couthouy In the water
| state the circumstances.
Al saw some peis N in the water, but am not
| certain it was Mr. Couthouy.
| Q.-State what you saw IN regard TO the person
who was in the water, and who was near him.
| Al was too far OFT to see The person, but saw
the natives with spears orsome,hing like them, en-
eavoring to strike the person in the water.
Q.-What was the object for which the persons in
the boat sought to effect landing, of your own
knowedgel
| Al don'tknow /; it was for the avowed object
| of making scientific observations.
Q.-Could u landing have been effected without
| recourse to hrearms as you have stated!
Al believe not rot without loss of lire.
Q-Were efforts made to conciliate the natives
by offering them presents before recourse was had
TO firearms |!
A-Thwswas, Thepresents were received by
the natives, which were thrown on shore.
Q.It has been said that one of the natives was
dragged off; was he SO dragged off because he was
seriously wounded? if not, why was he so dragged
off
Alt was not because he was wounded, but be-
cause he still opposed ourlanding.
Q-Were not the measures absolutely necessary
A-They were; it could not have been otherwise
effected without loss Of life, as before stated.
Crossexamned by the JUDGE ADVOCATE
Q-What officers were In the boat with Lieut.
Al don't recollect
Q-What officers were in the boat with you1
Lieut. Perry.
ing to strike a man in the water with spears what
prevented them from striking hint
A.-Inaccuracy OF aim:
Odd they launch the spears at him with their
Al could not see
Q.-What do you mean by inaccuracy of aim,
then!
A-They struck at him first with spears in their
hands, but did not hit him, they afterwards threw
the spears at him..
Q-Was it at this time you fired at the natives,
If not how long afterwards ro
A-Probaby ten or fifteen minutes after, and a,
another place 1851
Q-Was not this man out Of the reach Of the
spears when you die fire? NII
Ave did not fire at this place.
Odd any one else fire than yourself, If 90 who
were thsy1
There were two other shots fred, by whom
Q.-Are yon the gentleman who shot the native
at Drummsnd's lsand7
o-Wha. observations were made at Clermont
Tonnerre after you landed1
Al can't say
Q-How do you know any were made1
A-Because saw the instruments landed.
O. By HANIroN.--You have been asked if you
were the gentleman who shot the native at Drum
monds Island; state the circumstances OF that trans
action ..
Al was called upon previous to the landing by
It. Walker who had command of the party, and
who said would be doing an act OF humanity by
demonstrating the superiority OF our arms That he
wished me soon as the negotiation should cease,
to make an example. had no opportunity OF doing
so until the boats had landed and the men were
forming the shore. The natives began approach
ing from our Left there were several hundred Of
them; they were led by person who kept some dis
lance in front; il was he that shot.
JUDGE ADvoCATE.--Dead sir t
A-Dead!
q. BY HAMnroN--Wcre You to have shot unless
the negotiations had ceased unfavorablyl
A-No, sir Negotiations had ceased and vol
lev been fred before shot him.
q -fIad not John Anderson, one OF the crew of
the Peacock been previously murdered th,re
A-John Anderson disappeared that leland,
and we all supposed him to have been murdered.
Q.-Was not thatthe reason the Expedition land
ed at that place
Al believe il was.
Q.--What do you know Of the Expedition from
Sandslwood Bay