The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-11-25

BY the CoURT-What was the other combatants
dong In the mean tlmel WITNEss-They were
both IN almost every instance and at the end Of every
round taken up by the seconds and carried; towards
the latter part of the fight Mccoy came up slower
than usual but not until the Tooth the l07h round,
as | think.
Q-When did Mccoy get the blows on the ear ?
A That was at the first OF the fight il seemed to
me that it was scratch, for observed blood flow
Ing from the ear, but | cannot tell whether il was
from the internal part OF the ear or not Iheard a
shout " First blood Tor Lily" and then saw the
blood on Nc Coy's ear.
q How leng did Mccoy lay in the ring before
II was said he could not come 10 time Z A-About
10 or Is minutes. lie not dead when he was
taken out of the square he died on the bank |
went towards II there was a crowd | then felt his
pulse | thought perceived il dropped the arm.
tined II again in minute and felt none. 1t could not
have been over five minutes after he left the ring
DID not hear HIM speak alter he Jailed TO come his
time.
Q--Was the announcement made, that he did
not come 10 tlme Immediately. No; full a
minute after the termination before il was known
In the ring that he could not come to time. dis
covered the eyes closed near the Tooth round and
he fought In that condition until near the eXplra-
ton.
BY the CoURr.-Do you recoect whether he
spoke after being taken 10 the corner? Al did
not hear him.
Q-What is the effect when one of the parties is
thrown on the rope of the ringl A.-To scarify the
body, but the round does not terminate until he
falls to the ground; never heard of any ropes being
cut during the fight; during the time the fight was
going on there was no person IN the ring but the
conds; the ordinary place for the bottle holders is
outside the ring Sullivan was outside the rope
when saw him at the termination OF the round;
several persons who appeared to be bottle holders
entered the ring, and remained there until time"
was called for the next round; during the progress
Of the round they sat In the OF the corner 10
which they Belonged Sullivan in front of the
crowd, most generally on the side, within eight
tAaT nt ha ahfnf
from me in a direct line.
Questioned by ATTORNEY GENERAL-Please take
piece OF paper, and mark with pencil the relative
position of yourself and Sullivan and also view of
the ring. This was made by witness and handed
TO the COUNSEL
JVtness continued. i heard Sullivan speak du-
ring the fight, but whether he spoke to Lilly or not
cannot say; think there were two rings outside
of the square.
Q.-You are one of the reporters of the Herald /!
Al am.
Q.-Have you the number of the paper containing
your report Al have.
Q-Won't you be good enough to produce ii !
Al can, but it is at my lodgings.
Q.-Can you upon reflection tell what Sullivan
said, or did he say any thing about the place put
in the blows, and what A cannot swear now
use of any expression of that kind heard some
remark, " He's one of Them" but he did not
address Lilly that am aware of: think he made
use OF such remark, but cannot positively swe
IL
was smart man, and that he had struck good
blow; do not know whether the remark was made
to Lilly, or the crowd about Sullivan / did not see
him raise his hands at the time he spoke.
Odd you hear any thing said by any one about
striking about the neck. { objected to by counsel
for defence, as not relative TO parties on trial but
admittedly the Court.] WITNESS. ST. heard a great
many remarks which were not made by defendants;
heard no remark about the neck being we'll
By Mr. GRAHAM.--Had the Attorney General not
better ascertain whether any remarks were really
made?
Mr.. PRIcE.--The Attorney General is so very
smooth and agreeable, that there is hardly any
such thing as resisting him.
The COURT decided that the question should be
answered
Mr.. PRToE.-The prisoners are liable only for
their own acts and not those of others, and there
fore the Court will note our exception.
Question by ATTORNEY GENERAL.-Did you hear
any thing SAID there during the conflict as to any
part of MeCoy's body that had been previously in
any thing of the kind Z [Obected to by defence,
and exception taken.] Al did
Q.-By whom was it made9 A-By VIM. Ford.
PRicE-Ihls course OF examination is now made
trial. 1t is impossible for the jury to get rid of
the impression--that's the hardship.
.Q.-Where was Ford Ale was on the in
side of the outer ring. I saw Sullivan and Ford no
nearer tog -ther than have before spoken of~the
former saw at the square ring outside, and Ford on
the inside.
Q-What were the declarations and general cry
made by those generally attendant during the fight:
the general tone, mean!
Counsel for defence objected to The question being
answered, and an argument ensued, in which the
Attorney General, and Messrs. Price and Graham.
took part The Court decided that the question
could be put, and the witness proceeded as fol-
lows:-
A.--sullivan and McClt ester were there during
the whole fight
Q.-What were the general declarations made on
the ground durInp the fubf1 -Thara
great many made, such as $50 it Crs'-"Give it
to him, Tom These were The most common cx-
presslons and made loud, Towards the latter par,
OF the fight there were cries from the Lilly side of
the ring Of "Take him away-G. e. McCoy)-take
HIM away" This was about the S0h round, and
additional cries of Hes got enough" from the
same side and the cries of stake Runaway" and
there's of fighting him any more 'coniinued
from that round until the end at intervals There was
cry of "Fou;'' the first time | heard the cry of
Foul' was in the early part of the fight; was oc-
casloned, as understand, from blow stru by
Lilly while in the act of falling Iheard il once after
wards; this was when Liy's hands were over
Mccoy sneck and when the cry was made he let go
and they both fell Sullivan keeps, or did keep.
porter and lodging house in New York. l do mol
know that Sullivan has any other business | do not
know where Lilly was trained; did not see Snlli
van the day OF the tight in New York city; four or
hive days previous to the fight | saw him;
understood that the fight was 10 come off
some weeks before it took place: Sullivan never
told me when or where the fight was to take place;
he never told me he going to see it.
heard some one say during the fight, faint Criss
portrait palnterl' ! do not know who made the ex-
preston; presume it originated from the appear
ance of McCoy's face; his nose was bleeding but
~ not broke at this time; at the 18th round
heard Sullivan say ''you called me coward for
falling, what do you call thatl' this was when
Mccoy fell to avoid the blow; Sullivan was among
the crowd at the time; did not hear any directions
from Sullivan relative to striking Mccoy on the old
spot; heard Others say it; heard James Sanford
say about the ll9h round, that Mccoy was not half
licked yet; Mccoy came up slower at the ll4th
round than before; think Lilly said to him about
the FIRST expressions that heard after Mccoy cond
not come to time" were ''stand back" "give him
alr;" at the instant Lilly was declared the victor
there was a shout OF exclamation, which was pretty
of no betting on the result; heard the remark of
take away your man" made very often but al
mos always by Lily's seconds or his friends.