The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1842-08-19

Mr. WISE SAID ne objected 10 the interruption oi
the regular order of business.
Mr.. FILLMORE askel that the resolution might
b. read
Mr.. Bolts said he had NO objection to its being
read, but he dad object to its being entertained.
he resolution differing but very little from that sub
United by Mr.. MckennaD. Ii Is as follows
Resoped, That 1t is expedent to pass another
nue. bill the same that which recently passed both
Houses of Congress, and has been returned by the
President, with his objections, TO this House, and on
re consideration Ss for want OF constitutional ma
joTIty, entitled An act to provide revenue from In-
ports and TO change and modify existing laws impos-
ing duties on imports, and for other purposes, with
the exception Of the 9Th section of said bill winch
repeats The provisions TO the Land Distribution act,
and SO modified as 10 make tea imported IN American
vessels from beyond the Cape of Good Hope and COT
lee free of duty and that the Committee OF Ways
and Means be, and they hereby, instructed 10 IT,
port such bill TO this House with all convenient de-
spatch
Mr. WISE being entitled TO the floor, continu d
his speech the report and resolution OF the select
committee. lie said he had already touched on some
OF the reasons why he voted against its adoption la
the hrsi place, he was like the gentleman nom Ken
lucky, opposed To any alteration of the Constitution.
dis second reason was practical one. lie was OPP
posed 10 contraction of the Veto power within mar
rover hunts than those prescribed in the Constitution
Ii LIS equivalence to the two-thirds were abolished The
only safeguard OF the peculiar rights and institutions
of the South would be destroyed. letter written
by a member Of Congress and published in West
ern paper showed that there deliberate design to
break up these institutions.
Mr.. GlDDlNGS asked to have the letter read
Mr.. WISE replied that he had not time to read It,
but 1t should be printed with his speech. lie then
said the heIesy OF the abolition OF slavery was at the
bolton of the project abolish the Veto If the four
members OF the Committee, who were obliged TO stand
by the institutions OF the South, had united win the
minority, this report could not have been adopted by
the committee. lie said, in the next place, be Was
opposed the adoption of the report, because It
sumes for the House the power not of lmpeachingi
but of Judging and condemning the ~Presldent-
1t charges the President with design to abrogale
legislative authority and with usurplng the power OF
collecting revenue without the authority OF law,
These charges III ght be good grounds for impeach-
ment, but the House does not lmpeach II usurps the
power not belonging 10 IT, and usurpng tie authority
Of Juicial tribunal, PIonounces sentence.
The report charges The President with certain OH
cial Chimes the resolution pronounceS sentence con-
demnaory not of the President but OF the Constilu-
ton. But the impeachment had not been proposed,
because those who assaed and vifed the Presid nj
dared not attempt it, They had ANONYMOUSLY skulk-
ed from the direct Even his colleague, who
had been foremost in menacng an inPeachment, seem
ed now 10 have dropped the design
Mr.. Bolts said he had not gwen up the design
he would bde his own time and at the next sess on
of Congress would bring forward his articles OF I'M
parchment
Mr.. WISE said that now is the favorable time
when The charges in the report had received the sane
ton of majority in this House, and While there is SO
large majority opposed to the President IN the Sen
ate. But let the question be tried by sworn judges,
and he had no fear for the result. On the contrary,
those who talked OF impeachment dare not BRING the
question to such issue.
Mr.. w, commented at length on the report showed
that the charges aforementioned contained IN and
demonstrated theiI fasty
Mr.. RAYNER followed, and said that Mr.. w Use
had no, by argument the strong positions taken
by the report but had ANONYMOUSLY skulked from the
issue, &c.
Mr.. BOW NE rising to question of order:
Mr.. RAYNER said he would be thankful to Mr..
Wise for any expa he mil hit choose to make.
Mr.. WISE said that he had made and intended no
personal reflection on any ndlvIdual-hs remarks
applied to the Committee and House collectively
The remark of the gentleman from North Carolina
had been applied to him Individually Meaning no
individual application Of what he had said he repeat
ed that he withdrew nothing of what he had said.
Mr.. RAYNER said it due to himself after this
explanation to withdraw any thing like personal re-
Election which might appear in his remark. He then
spoe lengthon the different reports made, and con-
cuded with an argument on the Veto power. La the
course of his remarks he was asked by Mr. Saunders
whether he would have voted for or ag anst the vetoed
bill He replied that he did not ackno Wedge the
right Of the interrogation to put the question. He
would answer it, because he chose to do lie most
probably would have voted against It,
The debate continued by Messrs. Davis, OF
Kentucky, Arnold, and Colquelt. The last COM
menced by replying to Mr. Arnold That gentle
proclaimed that he belonged to party, he had con-
demned large portion of the Wings for abandoning
| The party.
The solitary position of the gentleman might give
color to the supposton that he had quilted the
party The gentleman had stated the issue to be
whether the majority should rule This was not the
| issue The true issue is, whether the Constitutions
framed by the sages SO highly lauded by Mr. Arnold
should be kept nviolate. The veto power was de-
| signed by the trainers of the Constitution pro-
tective power. The Liberties of the people would
not be endangered by that power; they could be en-
dangered only by legislation or revolution. He could
not conceive the justification Of the wrath on ac-
| count of the course of the President. The Execu-
tive had vetoed the Bank bills. In this he had but
carried out the wishes of the People, already repeat
edy expressed During the late Presidential election
the bank question had not been broaght before the
| 2, ople as a Wing measure, and the present Presi
dent had been known to be invariably opposed to
bank The venerable chairman of the Select Com
mittee had stated the establishment of National
Bank to be the great Wing measure to procure relief
AID yet the chairman OF the COMMITTEE OF Manulac-
lures had said that the Tariff was the great and sole
| measure for relief. Here was additional proof of
the difficulty to ascertain what were the prominent
principles of the Wing rty.
Mr.. COLQUlTT said that, in his opinion, the pres
ent Tariff, under the Compromise act wauld produce
higher revenue than the vetoed bill, which, false to
its caption in fact act for protection, directly
and for revenue incidentally. The President had
resolved the veto for doubt thought sat-
isfacory Mr.. c. knew nothing of his motives, and
felt he had no right to suspect their integrity
than he had to suspect those of the gentleman from
North Carolina, who had said he would have voted
against the bill. That gentleman would have voted
against it because he did not approve 1.-THE same
privilege certainly vested in the President by the
Constitution, and its exercise was obligatory on him.
When Mr.. CoLoUITT had concluded, MIR. GRAN
GER moved the previous question and, on the mo-
ton to re consider, the yeas aud nays were ordered.
The vote stood yeas IA, nays l4O
Mr. FILLMORE inquired the morning hour had
not begun, (it three o'cock,) and if reports in
committees were not IN order
The CHAIR answered that reports Ia or Ter,
hcninning at the Committee of Indian Affairs.
When the Committee Of WAYS and Means