The Charlotte journal. [volume] (Charlotte, N.C.) 1835-1851, 1842-02-24

came too warm 10 be agreeable, aud find
ing Il likely to become more so, sugges
ted 10 the Judge the propriety Of closin,
The conversation upon the subject, which
he readily did in perceiying /, unpleasan
TO me; and we separated upon the usua
terms Of respect aud civilly. The judge
came TO Williamsburg for the purpose 0
holding his court, for the purpose Of at
tending it. At the close Of il, the Juag,
: aud myself set oil together for the purpost
/. of going 10 Norfolk by way of the steam
! boat, which We expected to board a
jamestown; upon reaching which place
we iouhd, according TO my recollection
some four or i've persons, zone of whom
E knew, hut, from The appearance of some o.
them, took them 20 be students Of the
college. The Judge spoke to ono or moro
Of them as though he knew them. lIay.
lng 10 wait at the landing for the boat
some lime, the Judge, after a while, fell
INTO conversation with these gentlemen,
aud after some time, preached The subject
Of the dissolution OF the Union in nearly
the same terms and language | have al.
rcaty mentioned. After listening to him
for some time, and determining to take no
part in the conversation, left the place
and walked apart on tie bank Of the river
until the steamboat reached the landing
place.
Upon boarding the boat wo found it
much crowded, and among the passengers
were Judge Barbour, Maj. Christian, Nar.
shal Of tho Eastern District Of Virginia,
| Dir. Robert G. Nicholas, District Attorney
pt the United States fCI the same district,
and yourself The two last named gen
ilemeu and Judge Barbour we're going 10
Norfolk for the purpose Of holding a,court.
After having dined, the company went
generally upon deck. We had not long
reached it before, in passing among the
crowd, | heard Judge Upshur, Judge
Barbour, and yoDrSeif engaged in eares,
ard animaled conversation, surrounded BY
The crowd.
f" j listened for 4 limo, aud found the
subject Of discussion the dissolution Of the
Uuiop, the proprisiy and justice Of which,
IN regard to the interests and welfare Of
the Southern States, Judge Upshur was
malataIning With great warmth anI yohe-
mence, 10 almost the same nDauaIe had
Z fore heard, and have mentioned above.
F, not TccoIleci that Judge pshur used
tlp sord immsdiote, as applied to The time
oi the dissolution, bat lie certainly said
md repeated that n must cOne--in bis
opinion, il was inevitable; and the sooner,
the better. ! never heard any qualitiQa-
lions, conditions, or reservations, Of any
kind, annexed to this opinion, us above
declared. ! will not undertake TO say
that the Judge never made any such at
any time att that mean to say is, that
upon the occasions mentioned by me J
never lizard any uttered BY him.
" listened t. tins discussion for some
limo. ! determined TO tuke no part III Il,
anil, after n time, retired to a dlflercnt
par, Of the boat, Oh, Of the crowd. In
about three quarters Of an hour, or an hour
after, was loinc,l by Judge Barbour, VINO
had left the discussion 10 Jgdge UpsAGr
and yourself. How long il continued az
forwards | do not rceoIicct; It certainly
Gid for considerable lime, and ! believe
ua'iI most Of the company became sick Of
It. When Judge Barbour J9inel me
was sitting alone CA the dcck; and he,
speaking apar; wish me, expressed the
greatest amazetaeH, Of The Opinions he had
us' heard alowcd By jadgc pshur, spoke
Of them Ga letGIs Of tie most marked DIS
APPRECIATION, and also Of the ynliscgction Of
,he Judge; the more especially 50, as he
was a high officer Of the Government Of
and one Whoap station and talents
gave hlm great influence in society,"
Judge Barbour aui myself usually occu-
pied the same chamber al the hotel ~
Norlolk. Upon retiring TO our room,
IWlgc Barbour again adyeried 10 this SUBJ
ect. II seemed to have made deep i'm
preston on his mind. lie dcPlorcd it be.
cause L, saw the danger 90 which the
Union was exposed BY the public express
sion oi' such opinions by persons holding
tic rank N society und Tho station N the
Government that Judge Gpshur did thni,
/ he really entertained such opinions, ha
lughi not TO express Thorn n such an opon
,nI public manner.
II remember, also, orr conversation
lpon this subject during the last WINTER
shcn Judge llpshur was spoken OF as a
senator ii the United States. ! asked
tou whether you remembered your DIS
,ussion eilh Judge Upshur on board of
be steamboat upon the subject OF The dis
solution OF the Union, aud the opinions
hen expressed BY him. You replied you
lad most distinct recollection Of tho
whole DISCUSSION. aud of tho opinions and
doctrines advocated by the Judge at the
inc and probably added you would not
10 likely easily or hastily to forget them,
such was the impression they had made
lpon your mind"
The extracts given above must satisfy
he most wayeriag of the truth OF the
charge made by Mr. Bolts. The extracts
riyen below would seem TO lmplIcatc not
L. f,i' ihp lpnI.