The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1842-04-16
= it'll the consideration Of the Appro-

Frbruary-and it seemed 10 be necessary in consequence
time should be fixed as the limit for the debate upon it.
lie had hoped they should have been able to dispense
with such a proceeding, but he now ~despaired OF being
able 10 do SO, and therefore he submitted a resolution to
fix IL o'clock on Saturday as the hour at which debate
should cease, and the pending amendments should all be
acted upon.
After rejecting an amendment TO FIX 4 o'clock this after
noon, the resolution was agreed to by a m 'jority Of 100
to rs.
The till was then taken up in committed Of the whole.
the clauses entitled " intercourse With foreign nations
being the subject Of consideration.
From this branch Of the bill MIR. LIsN Of New York
had m,ved to strike out the appropriation for the Minis
ter to Mexico, and in defence Of that amendment,
MIR. sLADE had expressed some objections to Mr.Waddy
Thompson, our recently appointed Minister, on the
ground Of a want OF a proper equanimity Of temper
Tor such q mission.
Carolina this day defended Mr.. Thompson, and the rest
Of the day was consumed by Mr.. C. J. lsGgRsoLL and Mr.
ADAMS, who entered the arena in conflict on our foreign,
but more especially our British relations, and the proba'
bilty, and prospects, and advantage s OF a war.
Mi IsGERsoLL commenced the debate by moving to
strike out half the appropriation for the ministers to
Austria and Prussia, which was resorted to that he might
be afforded the opportunity to go into a general discus
vsrsy bDtween the United States and Grea, Britain, He
said the remarks he should maize would be made with a
view to the preservation OF peace. In q general view OF
the Diplomatic Corps, he observed that many Of them
might be reduced, and a saving be thereby effected not
only abroad but at home, for ministers were sent in re
turn to this country, who had almost revolutionized its
tastes, and hence the " gold spoons" Of which they had
heard SO much, and the ups'arts Of whom they saw too
much. There vas now q great question under neSotie-
ton in this city, which involved the Question OF slavery
or the slave trade, and Great Britain, France, and other
European nations, were agitated by 1t at this moment -
II as a great and leading toric ia those countries, and
it had now oome TO be connected with the right to
search our vessels at sea. Such a mission, then, to this
city, esp cially If the Executive were a weak man might
be fatal in it's bearing, and he had doubted the policy of
extending that fore gn influence. Two oc occurrences,
however, of recent date, had gone far to reconcile him
TO the sy stem. He was satisfied at last that able and pc
triotic men should represent us in the first capitals Of
Europe. The occurrences to which he ALLUDED were
tho efirctS prOiucpu NV the q xprtiOna of Mr.. Stpvpnscn
our late minister to England, and General Cass, still re-
presenting us in France. He alluded more particularly
whose influence had been felt by the high contracting
powers Of Europe and induced the French to decline the
search for slaves, and thereby had saved America from
a marine tyranny. Thus it was shown that our foreign
Ministers were a cheap substitute for war and for miG-
understanding with foreign nations. or the Envoy
Extraordinary who had recently come among us he
wenld say, from a personal knowledge of him OF many
years duration, tn at he was personally inclined to come
in a peaceful manner. He had been the subject
OF unjust apimadversion, in some newspapers. For
he took upon himself to say, that Lord Ashburton would
never be connected with dishonor-it was not the ma.
ture Of the man, who, during a long life, had been kind,
liberal and generous. To this nobleman then he de.
sired to say few words-not personally-but from the
floor Of that house and er eshedrd; he wished to say that
tcat Ambassador might preserve peace Internationally
by taking one course which he would take the liberty
to suggest. 1t v vas a remarkable fact, not often adverted
to, that on the Ave great roiRts Of controversy, between
sor. In the Maine question she takes our soil; in the
Caroline question she invades our borders; in the Ore.
gen territory she takes a portion Of our territory; in the
Creole case, she takes what we consider to be onrs;
and lastly, in the visitation or search question, she
comes 10 us and demands our submission. Now he had
remarked, that ministers were substitutes for war,
aud as a man of peace he trusted there would be no
war, and he thought it very easy to prevent it. But he
conceived the evils Of war were altogether exaggerated.
How often they heard the declaration which SO often
met the ear Of DR.. Frsnklin-"What q shocking thing
this wal is But while he was not insensible to the
that il would not do US 20 much harm as some antici
pated, and it might 40 us much good. In the first place,
amounting to some 5000 1000. would be settled for
ever. And we were not so ill prepared as was repre- |
sented: We are prepared beyond the preparation of any |
former war-populstion was more abundant, and the
means to clothe that population were greater. In the
third place, we have ell the materials Of var in our own
possession, and in the next place a great deal of that
material Of war was much superior to any nation
OF the 1world. All our lakes and rivers are CO
had remarked % him, that he should like no better
road to distinction than to have one Of these steamboats,
in time Of war, with eight orten days to put her in order,
deed, he { should i os sorry e see the Country nj '3 better pre- re:
~pared-he would rather trust this nation with its martial
sp rit than a nat ION completely armed. The great dc.
nominations Of the last 50 or 10 years had shown that
and that captains and colonies, who were tink ers and
tailors, had conquered duaes and pr,hces. Give him,
proper principles of liberty and indepen dence exist, in
preference to the nation armed to the teeth. He next
procdeded to observe that London could be burnt as soon
as New York, and instead Of England Remembering us
by letting loose the slaves OF the South upon us, as had
been said in the House Of Lordf, in the language of her
illustrious Canning, the " spirit of freedom" would be
lt. loose upon the Colonies TO the dismemberment Of her, |
and she would IA l to pieces like our Banking system.
And we should have the sympsthies of Russis. of Hol
land, Denmark, Sweden, yea Of all the nations Of the
world, including Texas. Mark the recent debate in the |
French Chamber of Deputies FIe, however, thought
there would be no difficulty in settling any of the |
he had mentioned, but the Right of Search
question. and for that there was no authority in the |
Law OF Nations. even in time Of war. |
To all this Mr.. ADAMS replied. He rcbukei the at.
tempt of the honorable gentleman to push this country
peace, and expressed his surprise at tho declaration
made as to the law Of nations respecting the right of |
search, and asked what all that had to do with the
or shall not have full ministers to Austria and
Prussia. What, he asked, had the burning of
London to DO with the question, whether we sh all have |
a minister to Berlin. Was the burning Of New York TO
be rendered ~palatable to 900 900 souls BY being told that
London with five times that population was burnt too ?
He spoke of the human suffering which could hardly be
without horror, arising from two such cities
being swept from the face Of the earth. of which the
next reviewed the gentlemsns positions founded on the |
law of nations as to the right Of search. and said il Ge.
ment to withhold its sanction to the treaty, it approach.
ed success in wrong" and General Cass had no, his
France had hitherto granted the right of search
and the law remained on her statutes, but she had bro
ken her faith with the four powers Of Europe, which
nigh, lead to a war, from which she had SO recently es-
capped in the Syria case, in which she withheld her sane
until the treaty was signed without her. He show |
ed the improbability Of aid being derived from France
in case of a war: while 50 formidable a party existed in |
france resolved on the obstruction of Louis Philippe
and his dynasty. II a war were kindled the party in
France that was now inhamed by the pamphlet Of Gen. |
Cass would not 60 to war to sustain this countrywide
right OF search would not be a question in their conside-
ration, and another wall might be necesssrv round Paris
to prevent its occupation by the allied powers of Europe. |
He contracted our naval force with that Of Great Britain |
and said that the Commerce Of the merchants Of the |
great atlantic cities would he captured and seqaestered
as a set OFF for the 5000 900 900 OF State debts. which the |
expected to blot cut by a war. He CONT.
iiued his remarks until 4oclock, when q, the request Of
several gentlemen, he gave way for a motion to adjourn.
All the efforts Of ihc honorable gentleman, prompted as |
they may be by humanity, will not counteract the efforts
made to create an impulse to push on a collision which
involve the whole civilized world.
lie will however continue his speech tomorrow nnd
is expected to occupy much OF the day.