The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-08-21

Al ob.lRasn 70 proceed 10 tksiwsdlats consideration
Of this BILL he had conceded all that was necssssry to
sustain this motion. When the Senator suggested
his personal conviction that time enough had already
elapsed, il would govern his personal conduct When
he lMr. B. had submitted motion for the postpone
ment of the further consideration of this question: till
to morrow he did it his personal conviction that
the time was required; and Senators would decide
spectively for themselves on the question.
Mr.. CALHOUN said the Senator himself had adj
mi.ted that the for the motion was confined to
reasons in his own breast and unknown to others
On what ground then, did he call on other gentle
men to vote for n Were the reasons for their action
to be looked into they To depend in their &C
ton on exterior movements Ii was out Of the ordi-.
nary rule TO ask that should further postpone the
subject, without reason. II was due to the body,
that the reason should be explained. He had never
known such q motion made, when a reason was moi
given. ..... &
Mr.. BERRIEN said the Senator from South Caro-
lima might suggest the motive influencing this mo-
tion whatever he thought proper, but he should not
conclude, that he Mr.. B submitted this motion,
from reasons which could not bear TO be disclosed
He Submitted for obvious its very face,
and which every Senator had opportunity of per-
ceivng. If examination of this Message, the Sc
naor did not believe that the question that presented
ITSELF was Of sufficient importance to authorize the
making Of the notion which he Mr.. Z. } had made,
he would resist it. He (Mr, B thought il was, and
therefore had submitted tho motion. ,.,y5I..a l -
!. Mr.. CALHOUN said it was a very extraordinary
motion, and was now the second time submitted to the
Senate. He thought they ought to have the vote OF
the Senate and for that reason he asked the yeas and
nays. s ..-..s..y
The yeas and nays were ordered, and the consde-
ration Of the bill postponed till tomorrow, by the fol
lowing vote: - 1er a
YEAs--Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Bates, Bayard
Berren, Choate, Clay, of KY, Clayton, Dixon
Evans, Graham, Henderson,, Huntington, Kerr
Mangum, Merick, Miller, Morehead, Phelps, Porter
PrsnIiss Preston, Riyss SIMMONS, smith, Of Ia
NAYS-Messrs. Allen, Benton, Buchanan, Cal
houn, Clay, Of Ala, Cuthbert, Fulton, King, Linn,
McRoberts, Mouton, Nicholson Pierce, SEWER Stur-
gson, TaPPan, Walker, Williams, Woodbury., Wright,
M. WOODBURY. submitted a resolution in
sructing the Committee the District of Columbia,
inquire into the extent and character Of the disturb
ances in the galleries of the Senate, two occasions
at the present extra session of Congress one the
passage Of the Fiscal Bank bill and the other on the
reading of the Veto Message the said bill, and to
report whether any, and what further legislation
might be necessary to prevent punish similar dis
turbances of epubc business hereafter Also TO in
qure and report in respect to the disturbances at or
near the Presidents House on the night ensuing said
Veto, the cause thereof the persons engaged in it. the
punishment if any, to which they have been subject
cd by the civil authorities, and report any additional
measures Of Legislative character otherwise which
may be necessary to prevent the different branches of
the Government from violent moestation disturbance
and interruption while engaged in the discharge of
their duties at Washington; and authorize the COM
mttee to send for persons and papers. The resolu-
ton was laid the table, and ordered to be printed
THE DISTRIBUTION AND PRE-EMpT1oN BILL
M Was then taken up the question being on the
the appropriation to the States from ten to twelve
per centum the nett proceeds of the public lands,
prior to their equal distribution among the States
The amendment was rejected: yeas H. nays27.
\ Mr.. FULTON offered an amendment to the I'd
section to strike out the provision that the distribution
shall be made to the States according to their re-
spective Federal representative population" and in
sert provision regulating according to their Iespec
tive representation in the two Houses of Congress- as
the same may be fixed under the apportonment Of the
census Of l840 asa 9E
He said the effect would be to give the small States
their proportion of money according to their represen
taton in Congress- If this distribution were to take
place. il ought to be made according to the sovereign
ties Of the States - ,sE
Mr.. SMITH, of Indiana said the amendment would
change tho principle on which the bill was placed
What would they do, under this amendment with the
District Of Columbia and the Territories, which had
no Senator'S He commended that the bill, as now
stood, gave equal justice to the States and hoped
the amendment would not be adopted
Messrs. BENTON and WALKER briefly adyo
Gated the amendment. Il was peculiarly proper tina
tho apportionment should BE- made according TO tbs
eighteen States while it would in some degree dimin
ish the shares of the other larger States and mete
out justice to all. g+ aa. n aI#%a
MrWHlTE opposed the amendment The bill pro.
the distribution according the respective popu
iation, and on the same principle direct taxation
would be levied. The amendment seemed to have an
appearance OF pausbility its face but the provi.
sions of the bill were strictly equal He thought the
bill had been under consideration sufficient time,
Amendments were now offered Of the same principle
as had been rejected and they should now proceed to
voting, rather than further discussion The session
had been prolonged nearly the extent Of endurance
and he hoped, well believed that the bill would
pass, and it would not pass alone but be accompanied
by other measures. HG 1a VI
Messrs BENTON and CLAY, Of Ala, replied to
the remarks Of the Senator from Indiana contending
that il their privilege to offer amendments and per-
feet the BILL but that none had been offered for the
sake Of retarding business They also charged the
Senator with dication, and thanked him for lifting up
the curtain and informing them what the majority
tended to do that they were to compromise and thus
pass their different measures.
Mr.. CLAY, Of KY, concurred in one idea of the
Senator from Indiana most decidedly and he entreat
ed Senator'S all sides of the House to consider it
he alluded to the desire that this bill should be brought
to close, whatever might be the result it had been
SO long before them There laid behind another inn
portant measure with which the honor and character
which he hoped would be taken up and passed imme-
diately after the decision of the bill now before them
He alluded to the measure which it was necessary to
adopt this session. otherwise before the middle of De-
cember next, the Government and the country would
be aground" unless they resorted to some other loan
bills. He hoped, therefore, that they would proceed
with the bill. He did not ask gentlemen to proceed
with precipitation but he entreated them to consume
az little time as possible, and allow the bill to be
decided
They were told that veil had been lifted on their
side If there had been, there also veil lifted on
the other side and had appeared that that side had
been indulging in transports Of joy. Perhaps mode
ration and consciousness Of the vcisstudes Of human
affairs should not be overlooked. He hoped, ifthose
transports had been INDUCED in, the other side Of
the House. that they would have occasion to change
them and that they would give way other more pa
roc transports at the of the other measures
to which the Senator from Indiana had alluded. He
believed this bill would pass although he did not know
The Senator had spoken Of other measures, and
thererpon gentemen chose 10 saw that The Senator