Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1841-06-11


ject he had in view would be obtained as well if he
would move to lay the whole subject on the table lie
believed that, IN such notion the gentleman could
carry the House with him; and then resolution might
be moved (and the previous question called upon ~
that the House would adopt the rules of the Inst Con-
gress until otherwise ordered He Mr J would vote
for both these propositions. The consequence ~ouiu
be that the House would get rid OF this question: 'nat
would adopt the rules of the last House as The rules o
this; and would thus be in the power oil the rouse At
any time to change modify those rnes' OF " aPpon'
select committee for their revision. .
MIR. FILLMORE would remark, with all que re-
spect to the gentleman from Maryland, MT 'ohnsonD
that the adoption Of the course suggested wona aeira
the very object he (hlr. F) had IN F,ew' "h,ch was
to enable every member to cote according TO his own
judgment.
Mr.. W. C. JOHNSON said that lie had understood
the Chair TO decide that under the parliamentary law
the previous question would first attach to the amend
ment of the gentleman from Massachusetts, (Mr
Adams) as modified by the acceptance of the amend
ment Of the gentleman from Vermont, (Mr. Slade)
The SPEAKER said the previous question attached
TO all the amendments pending at the time 1t was
called
Mr. INGERSOLL was understood TO suggest TO
the House. that under the decision of the Speaker the
previous question open to debate and that thus the
whole subject might be discussed.
Mr. BRIGGS submitted that the Speaker certainly
could no, have made such decision.
The SPEAKER said he had not He had merely de-
clueu thal tue PloPrety VI the Pie''ou9 ques'oa "as
debstable.
Mr. MALLORY moved that the House do now adj
journ
Mr. MORGAN asked the yeas and nays; which
ordered and being taken, were Yeas 10, nays
$40.
So the House refused to adjourn.
At the request of Mr. WISE, the SPEAKER stated
the exact position ofthe question.
whereupon Mr.. SLADE Withdrew his motion that
there BE- call of the House.
Nd inn ha na
question.
Mr.. w. c. JOHNSON inquired of the Chair whc
Their if the amendment were adopted abolition petitions
would not be received by the House.
The SPEAKER. 1t will strike out the 2lst rule
from the rules of the House.
Mr.. JOHNSON And thus let in Abolition pet
tons.
Mr. RENCHER asked the yeas and nays order
ing the main question: which were ordered, and, be-
Ing taken, were Yeas 49, nays ~.
So the House decided that the main question should
be taken.
And the Speaker having announced the main cues
ton to be on the modified amendment of Mr.. Adams
Mr. DAWSON rose to dissent from the decision of
the Char and contenGed that the main question was
on the proposition of the gentleman from Virginia,
mir Wise and that il never could be on the mend
ment By rules II true, il had been decided
that the main question should be the amendment ];
but that question had been settled otherwise b. the par
lamentary law. Mr. d. supported his position by re.
ference 10 that law, page 66, &c.
Mr.. FILLMORE inquired OF the Speaker, whether
an appeal had been taken from his decision'
The SPEAKER replied that he so understood
Mr.. TILLlNGHAST submitted that the very an'
thorty which the gentleman from Georgia (Alr. Daw,
sony had read in support OF his own views sustaihe"
distinctly the decision of the Chair
MIR FILLMORE said that the proposition had been
expressly stated TO the House, before the main ques-
ton was ordered, being on the amendment OF the
gentleman from Massachusetts,, mir. Adams) lie
| \ he would D.
Mr.. DAWSON said he had not taken an appeal
from the decision Of the Chair.
Mr.. GILMER contended that some gentlemen had
voted under a misappre henslon as 10 what the man
question
The question was then stated TO be the modified
amendment of Mr.. Adams, TO strike out the WORDS
"except the 2lst rule
Mr. w G. JOHNSON inquired if motion TO lay
the whole subject the table would now be III order
| The SPEAKER said it would not.
(Cries Of "Queston, question:; "let 1t come let 1t
come
Mr. SLADE asked the yeas and nays on the adop-
ton of the amendment which were ordered, and,
| being taken, were as follows
Yeas-Messrs Adams Alen s. J. Andrews, Aycge, Bahcoek
Baker Barnard Deeson Bseye Blair Buarman Borden, Bolts
BOVINE Briggs BTockway, Bronson, e. Brown Jerr
Brown Burue Calhoun chds, Chittenden,J G. Clark, saey
Clarke Clinton cOwsn esns n
more Floyd. A. Floyd, Torrance, A. L. Fosre Gaie ate
teaa. William : Hastings, Henry Howard Hudson Hunt, In
eerso James rvln William w. irwin James, Andrew kcnnc
MeKe"" Marsiand, l. Marshall Mahos Ma,,osks, maxwell
Mynn Ms,s Ramsay R
way Roosevelt Russell Sal onsal Sanford Sergeant Snonton
Buren,, Van Rensselaer, Wallace, Thomas " Williams, Win
' sas ,"ks Afford L. w. andrews Arnold Arlington
Aheon Barton Bidaek Boyd Aaron v Brown Milton Blown
r. C. Caldwell, John Campbell, William .. campbeIl Thomas
4. nnyi H.,
Eastman, J. C. Edwards Thomas A. Foster Gamble Gentry
sham Harris, Houck Hays Holmes Hopkins HUBBARD Faner
Jack, William Johnson John w jones Isaac b. ZONES kem
shall samson Mason, J. T. Mason, Medil Merwsiher, Miller
Moore Newhard Nisbe Oliver owsry, rearce pckens Pope
Rogers Saunders Shaw shriperd Sellers Stany, sreenod
summers Sumter Sh" p Tns%ps9 [as S
| L. Williams, Wise, and Wood-iGi
So the amendment, as modified, was adopted
The question then required on the adoption OF the re-
solution of MIR. Wise, as thus amended:
| Mr.. WISE, after remarkng that under the parlla-
men,ary law the previous question applied only to the
amendments proceeded 10 say that he was constrained
now to vote against the resolution because IT was his
desire to despatch business and he was satisfied that II
this rule taken away and If flood OF Abolition
petitions should be poured in upon us as heretofore we
should do nothing else upon petition day but discuss
Abolition petitions. There various steps yet TO
be taken in resisting this movement. The vote (Mr
was understood to say was too striking tor HIM mol
to admit that there majority in this House in
favor of receiving these petitions He gave notice thai
it would be his object 10 TO lay the question Of
reception on the table lie would not dared not, yield
one inch of ground occupied by the South this
question: and therefore, he moved lay the resolution
! as amended on the table.
/ A motion was then made to adjourn, on which the
yeas and nays ordered, and, being taken, were
yeas S., nays I26.
So the House refused TO adjourn.
Mr. FILLMORE rose and said that when he hao
said few words as TO laying the subject on the table
h. had not understood what the decision ofte Speaker
as 10 the main question He now understood the
Speaker to have decided that the main question was
limited in effect to the amendment of the gentleman
from Massachusetts. Was it so'
The SPEAKER said it was.
Mr. FILLMORE. That being the case, without
stopping to inquire whether the Chair is right or wrong
deem shorter mode OF arriving at the on)eot nave
in view 10 move the previous question again on the
main proposition And submit that that notion un
der the Parliamentary law. takes precedence OF mo-