New-York tribune., 1841-10-08
TRIAL OF ALEX. MCLEOD.
ONEIDA OYER AND TERMiNER.
Third Day. WsDSesDAY Morning Oct.

to the stand Charles PoTEs, who being sworn.
,esli1eI-
am native OF Canada, and was raised at Chip
pewa was tending bar for Mr.. Davis in that
place at the timr Of the destruction OF the Carone
had then been with Mr.. Davis three or four
months IL was first discovered that any wa.
on Navy Island on SUNDAY. know the prisoner
! Mcleod; have knewn him greater portion Of the
time ne held the Office Of Deputy Sheriff Of Niagara
District During the afternoon preceding the de-
( struction of the Caroline, saw him at Chippewa.
! saw him a number OF times during that dag and
toward the close Of the day; ! saw him also after
dark. a gentleman came in and inquired for hlm
between and 10 O'Clock in the evening and he
was shown to McLeods chamber-he having re-
tired ,g bed. Mcleod got up, dressed himself,
came down into the bar-room, and teld Mr.. Davis
tina, If hi. (McLeod } brother inquired for him
to say to him tina, he had gone to Niagara About
half or three quarters of an hour after that saw
him again between Daviss and iRe Chippewa
Cut. There were number OF people about and
near him, but whether theS we're his company or
not | cannot say. After that ] saw him, and some
hundred more, by the side of some boats on thc
/ bank OF the river. Some go; into the boats, but
afterw ard they got out, and towed the boats about
three qEarers OF mile where they embarked or
board the boats. and showed oil from the shore
They steercd across the uyer, bui ] do not know
where they went. The boats towed up
empty on account of the current. This occupied
about an hour ard then | returned home and went
to bed, leaving up Mr.. Johnson who also Il
bartender in the house. | haye not seen Mr.
Johnson lately, but understand he is at Detroit.
The next I saw of Mcleod was about sunrise
the next morning, when | saw him on the square
in front Of Mr.. Davis's house. There were NUN
Der OF people far from him. but none very near
him. nor do ] Know that any in his COM
pany. If recollcct right on the previous even
ing be wore sword By his side. did not hear
him say any thing. saw him again not long at
terwards, in the forenoon, wkile | was standing On
Mr. Dayiss stoop. A,terward. wa, in the habit
OF seeing him requenty-almost every day. A
number of officers boarded there; | have heard
him say something about the destruction of the
Caroline few days after, a number of them
conyersing about Capt. Stennett one
MAJ. Cochran, of Dragons, another and four OF
five more; and Mcleod said, in purpori. that he
had killed Yankee their conversation was in
reference TO the Caroline; can speak quite posi-
live about McLeod's getting into the boat.
CrosS-eramined jy Mr.. Spencer
Lives about Il miles from Chippewa, township
of Names Creek; has fam aad family; cant
exactly say he owns the farm /; was his father
estate, and he holds in common with the other
heirs; is % years OF age tended bar about three
and . half months for Mr.. Davis it was a very
busy time; 4 man named Johnson was there before
witness came; don't rccollect the namber OF The
guests exactly; probably six or eight formed the
mess; can tell the names Of some; there
Captain Stennett Lieut.. Caldwell, Capt. Leckie,
Maj. Cochran, of the Dragons can't remember
the names OF the others; there were a great many
occasional guests can't tell what guests were there
the day before after the burning Of the Caro-
line; can tell several in The square the day before;
he then saw MIR. Howie, Mr.. Brown, officers OF
the artillery doesn't recollect what they were do
ing; more than he could say what led him to take
notice OF these persons.
Where was Mcleod when he was hoasting Ia
the meSs.room. Where was the mess-room Over
the bar IN stairs. What day was ii A day
two after. What did YOU hear any other one Say
Well, they were talking. What about Can't
say exactly Can YOU not tell what they SAID as
well as what Mcleod said Well, it was some
t thing about that. Which one was il! Can't tell;
they all talked together. How long were You in ?
Perhaps five minutes, perhaps more. Caa YOU not
be more precise No. didn't keep timc-piece
What did YOU 90 in for was called in What
fer To bring in beer or liquor Did YOU hear
any thing else Can't recollect any thing else
Where were YOU on the evening OF 18th As 10
dates can't say What day was the Caroline
burnil Don, know the date. Where did YOU co
ont after that. ,henl No where Why Be
cause had no business out. When after that did
YOU leave the house for any length OF time Can
recollect particularly; suppose 1t have been
month after. Did business keep YOU so confined
Yes. Was the 29lh bu>y dsy Every day was.
Was ii dark night Not very light nor very
dark. Was there moonlight think not
What hour did you 90 out that evening Gould
not tell the ,me-there was no time-pece IN the
house You said ten o'clock PerhaF, it was
perhaps later. Why did YOU 90 out From All
invitation OF friend Who Peter B. Nelli,
Where did he invite you TO Up the river TO see
the Caroline burnt Where does Nelis live He
is moved to Forty-rnie Geek.
Did YOU see the Caroline DESTROYED No-But
saw her on FIRE lndee4-how long dId YOU
stand on the shore after the boats lett 0h.l
stirred about for an hour. Who returned with
YOU Nobody. When did you 90 to bed Can t
iell-wc had no ume-Piecs. Can't you guess
Possibly !, was twelve o'clock. Did YOU see the
FIRE before YOU left Not long Where were YOU
then was half way home. How long did YOU
look nj the ire Not ous. Three minutes
Perhaps sol was ,red before ;hat Was /: noisy
or >uil quite sti.l--the wind was calm No nojsel
None that recollcct. Did yeu know what the
hre was Yes, and MIR Nellis thought the same.
He returned wita you then Yes 50 far a the
beacon light Who was with you besides Nelis,
geing up the river Captain Nellis-a cousin OF
the others mo invited him Doat know
/ There were no Others 2 None thai considered
in my company Can YOU tell any others who
were .trolling up Can; be particular Had YOU
any diffsuty in passing mad 10 give the colir.-
,ersign. What was it Place think Who
gave YOU III Mr.. Nellis. Was i; going up or
down Going up. How did you 60 down I
gave 40 countersign then. Did you see the senti-
mel then Yes, the same ,ha; hailed me before
Did ysa all give the counteFsisR Yes--he cha!-