The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-01-05

| Mr. Forsyth was good Stale hights PalNii 49,
should think that his instincts of justice were pun.eo
by marty spirit if he were capable Of doing injustice
| 10 that officer under any circumstance ne Nnr
hoped that the party strife which had Just passeu
had not bunted the instincts oil Jus'ice OF ,no
4 Whip party Of the United States nor OF inc o'a'e
Rights party, Of which he had lived an humble mem
Der, and Of which he hoped TO die member. ne
was satisfied that the rights OF the Empire o'a'e ~ "
New York had been yindicated by the Secretary OF
State in an able and dignfed manner ana ne was
sorry 10 say that this the only paper coming rom
thai DEPARTMENT that he could commend IN that hgh'
A. regarded his sympathy towards the Northeastern
territory he as Southern man, had not more thah
he ought to have; but he did know that the Lion OF
England had been growing for his prey on .lia'
Northeastern boundary long ago, AS an htnero -
citizen he felt humbled al the reflection ihai, uhusi
the administration Of Martin Van Buren,, the Eagle
| of his country had covered under the Lion OF Eng
land; he felt humbled that country winch, even ~
the days Of the Revolution, was strong enough 70 ue
fend its rights, should now permit the ouseh VI Eng
land 10 depriye them of every thing. Aggression al
Ter aggression had been committed and Il would con
tinue TO be so so long the head oil the EXECUTIVE
Government failed 10 defend the doctrines contained
in this document.
Mr. A. then withdrew the motion 10 reconsider
Mr. STANLY renewed il.
| Mr. HOLMES, of South Carolina, said he was
quite delighted with this debate not however, because
the incidental question Of State rights had been m
troduced for that about the same thing as Tue
Constitution, which every man construed according
TO his own taste But he was delighted because the
gentleman from Georgia had given his approval to at
least one act of the Administration, lie was glad
that member of the opposite party had tue gene
rosity to acknowledge them in the right for cnce-
The gentleman had however touched on the very
important subject Of the Northeastern boundary -
He had said that the Lion Of England had growled,
while we paid no regard to it, etc. Now he mr. II
wished to know whether the remarks made Ivy that
gentleman to be considered ominous OF the fu-
- a n. MN
not to Judge, from the remarks made by one of It's
friends that TO be prccipltated into conflict
with this mighty power, prepared and armed al every
point, and that, too, for line of demarcation II
they TO rush into the confic-if the South was
to be FRUSTRATED he thankful that gentlemen lau
shown their hands, that the South might know that
one of the results attending the triumph of this great
party, was question of territorial war
Mr.. Afford replied to these remarks and sand
that he had not spoken in behalf of the coming Adj
mnistraon He had il not in his eye or his mind
at the time he spoke; he knew nothing of its secrets
nor its intentions. He had no conference with ITS
friends nor had his advice been asked lie spoke
for himsef-he spoke the sentiments of his own heart
when he said that the Lion Of England had growled
for its prey on the Northeastern boundary. What
ever might be the opinion of the gentleman from
South Carolina, Mr.. Holmes, he Mr.. 40 would
express his belief that if the issue of which the
gentleman spoke did come the State of South Caro-
lima would be in the first ranks, CALAMITY de-
Tending the honor and maintaining the rights of the
nation. This much he could say-he being one OF
the first born of notification out OF South Carolina
that South Carolina would be the last to hide her
head, if the country should ever be engaged in war
with Britain His own wish was, that we never
might have with her this any other question,
if il could be honoraby avoided.
For the part which he had takenin the recent VIC
torous struggle, he claimed no honor distinct from
his colleagues and his country and in characterizing
as he had done the communication OF Mr.. Forsyth,
he (Mr. Al had done only that which sense of JUS
ice dictated
Mr. CUSHING said the matters contained in the
correspondence Just read, sufficiently grave in
themselves and they had acquired additional gravity
incidentally from the remarks of the gentleman from
Georgia, (Mr. Alford) and of the gentleman from
South Carolina, Mr.. Holiness and he (Mr. O. had
a few words to say on both points.
Mr. c. said that the correspondence contains the
first distinct official avowal the part of the British
Government, that the attack on the Caroline au-
thorzed by the Government Mr. Fox says IL is well
known to have been authorized Mr. c. denied
this. 1t about two years since Mr.. Stevenson adj
dressed earnest letter of remonsrancc and demand
of explanation to Lord Pamerston on the subject to
which Lord p. stood mute to this day, neither avow-
ing nor dsavowing, justifying refusing to justify
the outrage. Mr. Forsyth was correct in his aIuson
to this part Of Mr.. Fox's letter as novelty 1t was
true that the British Government had indirectly sus-
tanned the act by bestowing honors and emouments
on the parties engaged in it, such McNab and
Drew; but no direct official declaration of the attack
on the Caroline having been previously authorized by
the British Government had been made before this to
his (Mr. Cs) knowledge.
Mr.. G.. said he concurred entirely with Mr. For
syth in opinion of the inadmissbity of Mr. Foxs de-
mand for the release of Mcleod He was arrested in
New York by the legal authorities to be legally tried
for alleged act Of murder and arson committed in
New York-lct him be tried by the laws of New York
TO whom jurisdiction of the case belongs.
Besides, if Col. Prince could murder in cold blood
the prisoners he made in the frontier troublesif the
authorities of Upper Canada had right TO try, con-
denim and punish others of the prisoneis-if Great
Britain might promote Drew and knight McNab by
the right should New York try Mcleod and il
guilty hang him.
Mr.. G. said these remarks were called for by the
tenor of the correspondence laid before the House
But now for the other point.
On hearing these papers read the honorable gentle
man from Georgia MIR Alford) avowed the senti-
ments of patriotism, which (said Mr.. CO. trust are
| felt not less warmly by the gentleman from South
Carolina Mr. Holmes, which trust burn un-
quenchably in the breast OF every American lie
spoke in the language of indignant truth of the
of assentation and concession the part Of the pre-
sent Administration TO acts of aggression on the Uni
ted States committed by Great Britain. In doing
| this, the gentleman from Georgia frankly declared
that he was utering his own individual sentiments as
sentiments only, and the sentiments of an ndivid
ual only. They are sentiments such as ], at least
approve, and had hoped the gentleman from South Ca
| rollna would approve.
| But the gentleman from South Carolina, looking
heyond this treats The remarks of The cnileman FROM