Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-07-13
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

siness OF the morning hour.
Mr. HUNT resumed his remarks and finished
them.
Mr. BROWN, Of Tennessee, began speech a.
ganst the of the Secretary OF SsaIe and
tnuod until interrupted 10y the expiration Of the
morning hour.
| MIR FILLMORE moved resolution to tike the
Loan Bill out OF Committee on Monday next.
Il The resolution was pasSed-lCas ~, NAYS 20.
On motion Of MIR FILLMORE, the House then
resolved Itself into Committee OF the Whole on the
state of the Union, and the bill auihorzn: loan Of
$4,000 0OO,-Mr Briggs having the Chair, and MIR
Sa'tonStnll having the floor.
! Mr. SALTONSrALL spoke FROM half pas; Gle.
ven TILL half past twelve, the ate and present Adj
m nstrstion Of the finances Of the Countrywide en-
b1rrasSnIents OF the Treasury, and the expsdiency
and necessity o. the loan. Tie replied pointed v to
many Of the incidental, attacks made by MIR Pick
ems yesterday.
Mr. WISE said he had merely risen to note the
fac: that TO day bill was before Congress 10 fund a
debt Of twelve millions at an interest of per cent
which, with the attendant expenses, would b.
equivalent 10 per cent-Fni TO rerpe,ua'e ihat
debt upon the country Tor eight years; and that yes
tcrjay bill had passed the same Congress empty
the Treasury. lie wished merely TO notice the con
neTion between the different parts OF the general
system; which went to empty the Treasury with
one hand, ami TO supply II by loan with the other.
| lie rose emphaucaly 10 speak 10 Buucombe
/ When at home It should DC inquired what he was
doing he would have this answer given, he is fight.
Ing system IN detail. He would not look at these
aSuTeS scpa ately; he looked AZ the system which
| was system Of GIS,ribution-of iartf--and OF \
funded debt. lie agreed with the gentleman
from Massachusetts MIR Saiionsta..,) that no man
had ever asserted distinctly that public debt IS A
public blessing. But here WAS sys'em in which
| the second feature was funded debt. IL might, OF
It might not, he true that the Government had al
ways been In debt SINCE 1887; but he would have
gen .smsn 20 a tt c further back ihsn 1887 to the
ulsrib ltIouIo. be not the apolog OF the ate
! Administrator; but there was one sin which must
not be charged upon that Admins ration, that was
the sia Cd iGnd.u g public debt. Thcy had never
brought in bi.. 10 loan twelve millions OF dollars
Iredeema5 c IN eight years. He had not risen 10
make speech, bot onyto say tha; he could not
support System Of iarii, distribution, ani funded
debt IN any OF Us p7rts.
Mr. wATTERSON began by sav.n- th,, he
did no, intend 20 occupy hi, hour. liz read an eab-
ocate and lucid extract OF the votes m the House for
Two or three years back, showing thereby that
mo'c Loco-ocos than VII IS had vl.ed ucainstssv
era. appropriations, such those for tie increase
Of the Navy, the maintenance Of the florida war,
the surveys OF the coast tie publication Of charts of
surveys, the repair o Qualifications, the Cumberland
road, the remova! o! The Red ryer rllt and other
similar purposes, commenting on the apprunrat on
OF 5000 asst for the purchase of furniture
Tor the lodging rooms Of the Presidents house. He
read, with various comments and Interruptions a
long article cut from the Richmond Wing being
proiesseuIy letter from Nlrs!nian who had late
" visited the Presidents house, and, stier an ex-
necessity OF reilrnlsbns the East-roo-n and the
Green-Toom, ana was shocked at the apparent fii-
stY Of the statements IN The late General OgIe's
speech.
he accused the present Speaker OF tvrannical
and partli! conduct IN the Chur-showing pArti-
san preferences. He was repeatedly ca led 10 order
py Tue Chairman but claimed the right 10 occupy
nus hour as he pleased "wi,h random cuts" s..
Mr FERNANDO WOOD made some objections
TO the third section, on the gJOund that Il would
of Vail kroLo
agents.
Mr. CUSHING said he had been disappointed
by tie course which ibis debate had taken in refer
ence TO the bi. before the committee. The question
Tor the decision OF tie committee was very simple
one-a PLAIN, Ineligible financial question The
Ou. assumed, IN the FIRST place, that this Govern
ment was now indebted IN the sum OF twelve mil.
IONS OF collars; and, assuming that It WAS in debt 10
that amount, the o'I asked the question which was
Tie best form IN which that cebi should exist and
answered thit question 10y proposing loan instead
oil treasury no cs. Il WAS, therefore, in reference
10 those two questions that the chairman OF the COM
mIiieo Of Ways and Means (Mr FI.morel had
brought IN this bill, and had suggested the hest
means Of getting rid ofthe existing debt. And how.
he asked, had this question been met ~ the commit
tee Why, the gentleman from New York lNr
Gordon) forgetting, rs II seemed 10 him lMr C.}
that now gentleman were Limited TO one hour each
IN which TO express their sentiments on any subiec,
before them, he'd instead OF speaking TO the pout
awaited himself of the occasion TO FIRE his shot al the
present Administration, and quote scraps Of snesch.
es, and make remarks (Intcnled 10 have been made
and not mate) on tbs land bill. Then came the
gentleman from South Caro- ina With some remarks.
assuming that this not a mode of getting rid OF
the existing debt aud that II question ii taxa
ton. And then they had a sentIcm from Ten /
hessec, lMr Wattersou,l who he'd thrown his RAM
dom sho,s at the Wig party, and made charles
against members ilhc Cabinet, instead Of me,tp.
lhis question In flr, open aud candid manner
The gentleman had closed lis speech with the re
mark that, as he had not time to say all he desired
within the hour allotted 10 him, h would pu bl.h for
the benefit OF his constituents what he could have
wished TO have said here. Now he (Nr CT pu,it
to him as question OF GOOD faith and gentIemaRly
proceeding, whether he could publish charges against
members Of the Cabinet, wsIch mad not been made
on THIS floor, and which charges, j! they md been
made, might have Ueen rspei.ed by rs friends. He
would ask u II would he far 20 publish them unI
send them out to the People OF TENNESSEE For /
one, lie (Mr ca would pro,,s; against il ss not war
rented or justified by any course Of fIir proceeding
Mr. WAIIERSJN rose and SAID two or three /
words, which ID rot reach the ear OF the Reporter
MIR SIANLY hoped the gentleman from Ten. /
nessec would not he permitted 70 write out his 4
speech and Incorporate m u tHi6gs which had no, 1
been uttered on this floor, and say that no Wing
member had dared 10 answer them, as had been done
10 speech pub !shCd 10 ono OF the numbers Of the
Crisis"
Mr. CAMPBELL, Of Tenn, said he hoped tie
gentleman from Massachusetts wOI d not give him.
sci sly AhLAtlIlt's GDolL dHy LiN, MS |flT Vel
colleague wrote or printed 90 Tennessee, as u would
have 10 effect there.
Mr. CUSHING then wen, on to remark Tia, he
would Ike % learn from gentlemen what were the
rea. and sincere objections they had 70 the bill It
mad been said the other day by the gen. Cnan from
View York as we. by Others that this bill i'm.
posed uliiOna. deb. upon the country. Now, he
tMr ca would ask whohld imposed this de1t upon
the country Who created this debit Did this
Administration create IL No, they had found II
afc dy Incurred. il twas a thing ~ be condemned
and denounced 20 the county, that there was nl-
uJul. dCIt, leo those VINO created J.. meet the re-
spOns.ai.Ity. We Inherited u, and the duty davOv.
Cd upon ur and p1.uiu. one 10 was, 90 devise how
We were % ge' ui II %. And he had hoped lhl,
the question would be mct 100 a fair and manly msn.
nsr1 and 90; Dc mixed up with political and other
mn ,trs. But hg regretted % say that lns hld not
been the ciEe. Mr. e. went on ~ shDE what was
tu- CONDITION Of the Treasury on the 1h Macf,
1887, when the late Administration came into pyR.
or, lying thll % wos then 10 prosperous condi.
uJn-tha' 20 he'd between twenty-five and twenty.
three m.l.igla Of dollars Ia ii5 Treasury, but that
when dat Administration went on. ui power u had
.ct au enormous deb. O many millions AS q leg1cy I,
70 the prssgu. Administration. lie commended, IN .
opposition % iIs srgImcu' g the friends 0. the ate .
Adm.ns,a ZION, that .uis'ug n Treasury notes vas .
inc ring debt equally rs much E1 as o. 4 bond .
This if,.r, then, against the l1rs Administration IN .
O. Hrou " issues 1' Treasury u,os ought 10 D. and
was put down as % dgDt incurred hy BE-. The
iurrls OF iUc late Administration were Jy.d 40 the
time tle measure WIS brought forward Tor lu issue
Of Treasury notes hl, Do were contracting ucUt,
/ bus they bad DENIED ~ lie maintained that unless .
90 issue uf lTtIH4Tv NOES Was debt then the urt