The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-02-11
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES..
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Mr. JONES moved that the special order be post
poned until Thursday next, and that the House pro-
coed WIN the consideration Of the bill before the House
yesterday, making appropriations for the payment Of
pensions for the year lS4I
Upon inquiry made Of the Chair, it was answered
that majority could postpone the order, but that il
would then lose its speciality. The Speaker suggested
that the postponement might be made by
sent, "a which case i would remain special order
The Chair then inquired it there any objection.
Mr.. CUSHING objected and then
Mr. JONES moved that the special order be post
poned until Thursday next, and the motion
ried by tro thirds; that remains special order
for that day.
Mr. CAVE JOHNSON moved that hereafter the
daily hour for the meeting of the House be eleven
o'clock in the forenoon until otherwise accepted
There was objection TO the introduction OF this mo-
tlon, on which the rules suspended and the
ton was received and ordered
APPROPRIATIONS FOR PENSIONS
The House then, on motion OF Mr.. JONES, of Va,
resolved itself into Committee Of the Whole on the
stale Of the Union and resumed the consideration OF
the bull making appropriations for the payment of pen
sions for the year lS4l.
The question REQUIRED on the following amendment,
moved yesterday by Mr.. Thompson OF South Caro-
lima, Chairman Of the Committee on Military Affairs
Sec. q And be II further enacted, That 800, 900
be- and the same is hereby appropriated TO be expend
ed under the direction OF the Secretary of War, tor
the benefit of such Of the Seminole chiefs aud war
riors may surrender for emigration.
Mr. M. A. COOPER resumed his remarks from
yesterday, in reply to portions OF the argument OF Mr.
Giddnss having reference the causes of the Florida
Some further explanations took place between
Messrs Cooper and Evans IN relation to the pend
ing controversy between the States of Georgia and
Maine.
Mr. CooPER, in the course of his remarks was call.
ed to order by Mr.. ANDREWS, of Kentucky, tor r-
relevancy; and at subSequ tent period when replying
to the remarks Of Mr. Gildings as to negro. stealing
and whilst meeting those remarks with illusions
certain case OF Negroes stealing in Ohio pronounced
MIR. BLACK insisting that his colleague (Mr.
"copper" was merely replying to arguments which the
gentleman from OHIO MIR Giddings) had been suffer
ed to make appealed from the decision Of the Chair
Some conversation ensued on the point of order, in
which Messrs BLACK, AFFORD, ADAMS and
WISE participated, after which
The question was put Shall the decision of the
Chair stand as the judgment of the committee and
was decided in the negative.: Ayes Sc, noes 50.
SO the decision of the Chair reversed.
Mr.. THOMPSON, Of South Carolina would APP
peal 10 the honorable member from Georgia to say
ether i was prudent proper in this discussion Of
topic (however improperly dragged into this debate
upon which every Southern should only feel as
Southern man, to be provoking this family quarrel
between Southern Wings and Southern Democrats
and whether Is just to regard the pery obscurest Of
the obscure members Of the Wing party exponent
Of the feelings and opinions Of that party this sub
ject. Would it not be better, more fair, and more
just wait short month and hear the dsting ushed
head of that party speak for hmseIf1 Mr.. T. would
pledge himself that Gen. Harrison will speak and
act upon the subject of abolition satisfy the
member from Georgia, and to seal forever his lips
cept in praise.
Mr.. COOPER proceeded in his remarks, Interrupt
ed by explanations from Messrs. Nisbet and Giddngs
and concluded at ten minutes past two o'clock.
Mr.. BLACK then obtained the floor and express
ed himself decidedly opposed to the amendment Of the
gentlemen from South Carolina, (Mr. Thompson,) as
being irrelevant to the bill before the committee and
being improper at this time And he said he would
have contented himself with simply giving his vote
against the amendment had been that for three
long hours Yesterday the gentleman from Ohio Mr..
GIddlngs) had been permitted 10 abuse, Willy, and
misrepresent him and his constituents.
Mr.. Il. then alluded to the efforts which had been
made by himself and his colleagues yesterday to arrest
the gent eman from Ohio in his ofremak which
however, had been unsuccessful. The consequences
OF suffering the gentleman 90 could not but be
foreseen by every member OF the House. He would
say that it not his intention to argue the abstract
question of slavery this floor; he had been in
sructed by his constituents to hold no argument with
abolitionsts here Mr. B. then intimated that if the
gentleman from Ohio would come amongst his Mr.
b s constituents and promugal his doctrine there he
would find that Lynch law would be inflicted, and
that the gentleman would reach an elevation which he
little dreamed of Let the gentleman put that down In
bis book let him carry back home and tell It to his
indignation meetings.
Mr.. GlDDlNGS TO point of order, which he
was about to reduce TO writing when
Mr.. WISE said Let get through this discus
sion as soon possble-let US 60 without inter
ruption
Mr bLACh then proceeded IN his remarks Once
only ne was notified by the Chairman, during the
reading OF certain paper to the Clerks Bile,
that the Chairman did not consider the course of re-
mark in order; but that under the decision ofhe
mittee, made this morning, the Chair did not feel at
liberty to call tie gentleman to order.
Mr.. B. then proceeded, and discussing qucs.
tons connected with the policy of the slavehod
ing States the subject of slavery, &c, when
Mr.. WISE made an appeal, as Southern naan, TO
Mr. Black, not TO discuss the matter further.
Mr.. BYNUM hoped the gentleman from Georgia |
would proceed and that the subject ould lie discuss
ed at length it possible The South suffering
for this now than for any thing else and If the
gentleman fro Georgia did not proceed, he Mr.. By
num) should claim the right to do 1t war time we
should a settlement Of accounts in these mat
ters.
Mr. BLACK again proceeded.
Several points of order were raised, which elected |
some desuItory discussion and in which Messrs War
rem, Rayner Bynum, Morgan, and Gusts partlcipat-
ed but action was taken upon them.
And Mr.. BLACK again proceeded, INTERRUPTED |
for purposes Of explanation by Messis. Wise, A.ber
Smith, aud Rives.)
After which, Mr. WISE rose and called the gen.
temtn to order, the ground that his remarks were
out of order under the decision made by the
mltiee this morning.
The CHAIR decided that the gentleman tras in
order.
Mr. WISE appealed
And the question being put, the decision Of the
Chair was repersed and Mr. Black was declared TO be
of order.
Subsequently, on motion Of Mr.. A. SMITH, Job
jecion having been made TO Mr.. Black proceedng)
leave was granted that he Mr.. B should proceed IN
order
And Mr.. B proceeded.
Some further interruption took place; after which
Mr. BLACK read, io the especial benz ut OF Mr.
Giddings, the second third fourth, and fifth verses OF
the Gospel of the holy ST Mathew
Mr.. B then proceeded to read from the Emencipa-
tor newspaper