Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-03-08

power nor the inclination Of the Federal
OF America to inieriere. Tha, the way in which
the matter stood at present. What Her Mslesty's
MINISTERS meant to do in il, their lordshps surely
would not expect him then TO state. (aear, heaT)
AT the same time the noble lord nigh be perfectly
sure OF this, that they would take those measures
which, IN their estimation, would be best calculated
10 secure the safety OF Her Majesty subject and To
indicate the honor OF the British nation. (iear,
hear.l
HoURSE OF COMMoNS-r.bruarys s.
Lord Pslmers,on; must confess the uoble Lord
has adv rted with greet discretion subject Of ex
treme interest, and which, i-om its gcat delcasy
involving considerations OF very grave nature be
tween the two countries. am sure the house will
Ieel should De touched upon with great reserve,
, either by the noble lord orby myself in nv an
swer. Now, as TO the statement of the noble lord
TO the occurrences which led 10 this mat
ter, II Is strictly, as tar as my memory serves me-
correct. VIII, hrst answer the questions the no.
Ole lord has put to me, and afterw ards say one
word IN explanation Of the transaction. think il
Is not exPedent IN the present state Of the discus
sion betweenihe two Governments as 70 the Sc zure
ana destruction oil the Caroline, to lay the table
that correspondence. Whenever it is brought to
close, of course there can be TO objection to do
| so.
| Her Mejesty's Government having received
WITHIN the last few days dispatches from Mr. Fox,
ana hts correspondence with the authorities Of the
United States, which correspondence has been fur
nished TO the public IN the American papers there
can be no objection lay before Parliament those
papers that are al esdy before the public. Laugh
teri Bus this is departure from what consider
an important rule in regard to iuern,tion affairs
(hear,) an done which may operate inuriously to
national interests TO lay before Parliament docu-
ments relating to pending discussions but as have
before said some of those avng been already fur.
nished, as respects them there can be no objection.
lhink important 10 make with reference to the
/ notice OF Mr. Forsyth one objection.
The noble Lord said, he believed Mr.. Mcleod
was not one OF the party by whom the Caroline
was attacked. My information goes precisely 10
the same conclusions but with regard to the ground
taken by Mr.. Forsyth, in reply TO Mr.. Fox, think
II right TO state, that the American government un-
doub,edly might have considered this trans,c,ion
either as transaction TO be dealt with between the
Two governments by demands for rci dress by one
10 he granted o. refused by the Other and dea with
accordingly; or II might have been considered as
the Brush authorize, consider proceedings
American citizens the British side of the border
ms matter 10 be dealt with by the local authorities
But the American government chose the former
course, by treating this matter as one TO be decided
between the two governments and this is the ground
on whleh they are entitled to demand redress from
the British government for the acts of its subiect,
ana from that ground they cannot now be permitted
to Ieeede. assure the house that on a mater of !
sueh extreme difficulty 1t would be improper for me
TO enter INTO further remarks or observations and
shals therefore content myself with answering the |
noo'e orus questions by stating the matters of fact
| have Just mentioned.
Lord Stanley apPrehend that the noble lord |
OF Them and that the most important he has moi |
answered, That question was, whether the Go.
vernmeni had taken any, and if So what stems for |
me protect on and Liberation OF Mr.. Mcleod |
Hear, hear)
Lord Palmerston. Ii was my intention IN hay.
answered thai question OF the noble losd before |
SAT Gown but II escaped my memory at the moment |
may state that case somewhat similar in princi-
PIE 10 the present was expected 10 take place year
and a half or two years ago, and at that Time in.
sUuctonS were sent out TO Mr. Fox on which
were founded some Of the commune, atoms larsIv
made by him TO the American authorities. or course
tte hou'e WILL trust, suppose that Her Majesty's
Government will send-Ihey have indeed semi K
certain instructions; but till we get the concluSop
oil the correspondence IL is impossible TO send 6n,
instructions. trust the house will believe the Go
Ne'hen VIII send such further instructions as they
may think II to be their duty to do, but an, no,
prepared now 10 state formally what those in,,rpc
tons may be. Hearl
, MIR Hume wished to ask question of the noble
Loru me secretary Tor Foreign Affairs but as the
noble Lord had made a speech on the subiec, ba
must hrst beg Of the house 10 suspend Their nd
ment until they had before them the whole Of The !
papers on the subject. The question he wished ~
ask was this; IL appeared by the papers which he
had IN his possession, that IN January 1873 A., mo
ton was made in the House of Renresen,a,;yas l.
calling upon the Government to place on the tobis
OF me House all the papers respecting the Caroline
anu N consequence Of that motion, certain paoers
winch had been received from Mr. Stevenson IA
been laid on the table of the House on IN. -
WAY, together with letter from that gentIeman
IN mat letter, the allegations TO the attack nv the
Caroine were denied, and he mir Hume) had seen
= cur I'oh MI stevenson, IN which he stated that
no answer had been given 10 his application in
IS3S, and he begged TO be informed wbctb.r n. !
should urge the matter on the attention of the Ri
''sn government Tor The American Government did
nor YET hho" whether the enterprise of the Caro-
line was 10 be considered as sanctioned bv the Ri;
tish Government What he wanted 10 knoyr fron, !
me hooIe Lord was, what were the in .,ructions of
Mr. Stevenson upon which he had acted AS he bod
done lie again hoped that the House would sus-
P"u s judgment on the question until all the doc
uments were bEiore IL.
Lord Falmersion said, rather think that NV bon |
orabie Trend will find IN the correspondence ib,,
instructions from the American Government were
STen " MI stevenson TO abstain from pressing the
subject. Hearl With regard to the letter ofMr
F"rsyth, beg leave to say, that the princinIs
stands thus In the case Of the American ci,ilins
engaged IN invading Canada, the American COY
eInhent usavowed the acts of those citizens, and
stated that the British authorities might deal win
them as they pleased, lheir.l and that thew were
persons VINO were not ~ any degree entitled TO the
protection OF the United States. But in the other
case they treated the affair Of the Caroline as one to-
DC considerei as that o! the Government and moi 10
be left upon the responsibility OF individuals In
H. therefore, the British Government hoe
persons, as the American Government dis,yoyed
their cIuzens IN the other case, they would have no
right TO change their ground upon the question.
Hear, hear.
Sir K Peel wished to ask the noble Lord. the
secretary Tor the Colonies, one question as to mat
ter OF fact; It was, whether they were not officers
Of her MnJesty's Army and Navy engaged in the
affair OF the Caroline, and wounded in that service
and further, whether they had received the same
pensions as they would have received # thew had
suffered such wounds in the service TO which thew
regularly belongedl
Lord } Russell said, that he had understood that
ohicsrs of her Majesty's Army and Navy were EN-.
ployed on that occasion, under the orders of the
Colonial authorities, and that some of them were
wounded IN that service; but he had not heard that
they had received any pensions.
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