The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-07-15
Mr.. sTEENRop and Mr.. MCKAY supported the

MIR. MALLORY moved to amend the amendment
by substituting provision that the law OF 1887 be
repealed until the fist of January next
MIR. WISE defended thu BILL and le piled particular
" to Mr. Mickey.
Mr.. CLIFFORD supported the amendment
Mr.. TiLLlNGH Asst opposed the amendment Of
MI Mallory, as well as The original one.
Aner some debate between Mcssrs. WARD
WISE, and Others, the amendment to the amendment
was adopied-leas 10
Mr.. CAVE JOHNSON moved 10 amend ~ ex.
Guiding al "a active service fom the enjoyment 81
pensions for injuries received lie then slightly modi
lied II al the instance OF Mr.. Mckay.
Mr.. WISE objected 10 the amendment with much
force. Members did not know enough of the laws ON
tins subject To act on the subject al this time.
MIR Y. JOHNSON replied with great warmth
lie did not pretend TO know much about the LAWS but
he thought the gentleman from Virginia knew little
more.
Mr., WISE replied that he meant dlsrespect 10
the gentleman from North Carolina. lie referred not
10 him. but TO himself, and all the members of the
House, wanting information the subject, lie
commented very el,quenty the effects Of confusion
now existing IN the Navy Pension Laws, IN conse
quence Of previous hasly legislation. The widow Of
the immortal Lawrence; who died IN battle for his
country with the words " Don't give up the ship" on
his dying lipse received pension OF only six hun
bred dollars per annum while the widow Of another
officer who died in his bed received Sll0O per annum
This was consequence OF such hasiy and confused
legislation as they were now urged TO
MI AItNOI4D mbNtu tHat tue COHnltlte rise, 10
give time for consultation, but withdrew his motion on
some remarks from Mr. Wise,
Mr. BURNELL urged that the House were per-
fecy prepared for the bill ri ored by the
Committee, which was simple appropriation.
4 he question was then taken on the amendment
and il was lost.
Mr. Il. w WILLIAMS, of Connecticut; moved
amendment, continuing the payment Of pensions
TO the widows and children OF persons dying IN the
naval service for FIVE years. lie stated that this
fln.ut Nyaa nrI tfnu sect on
the Senate, IN February, 1911. II would serve to
ben, fit most uerlorious class and would meet some
Of those particularly referred to by the gentle
man from Wig MA.
pend the repeal of the law of 1887 for five years.
Mr. WILLIAMS said II referred only TO cases and
claims already established,
The amendment was lost.
On motion of Mr. WISE the bill was then laid
aside to be reported and the "b making approprla
ons for the purchase of naval ordnance and ordnance
stores and other purposes. House bill No 81
Mr. WISE read IRON the report Of the Secretary of
the Navy pass iges relating to this subject, and
planned the objects and the necessity OF the appro-
priationS.
MIR. MCKAY asked for the reading of the rule of
the House suspending the action of the Committees
of the House all subjects not embraced in the Pre-
sdeuts Message. II was read.
Mr.. WISE showed that this subject within the
rules. The Message referred the report OF the Sc
cretary of the Navy, which presented this subject.
MIR, MCKAY insisted that this subject not
mentioned in the Message, and that the Committee
had no right 10 report on II.
Mr. w Use asked if the report of the Secretary Of
the Navy was not as much part of the President :
Message, within the meanng of the rule, any par
agraph IN that Message. lieneral responses, Of
: Yes yes."'
Mr. MCKAY, after some remarks, moved to amend
the first section, by reducing the appropriation from
$500 900 To $500 O0O
Mr. PROFFlT and Mr. TRIPLETT replied
with much elcquence and energy-denouncng the
low Nlle, party splrit which could manifest itself by
such course-seeking TO cripple the countrys de.
fences at this critical period, and to deprive the Navy
of its armament and efficiency, when that party
seeking TO plunge us into
NJ. WARD repealed The charges of the gentleman
from Indiana, made against the 1shoie Democratic
party He for one, was willing to vote the entire APP
preparation He very warmly and ably urged the
Importance OF Immediate and thorough preparation of
the Navy for dangerous contingencies
Mr. NESBllT supported the largest appropria-
ton, as Southern man. He thought that his section
OF the country stood IN peculiar need of the protection
of an efficient and well armed Navy. He would be
willing TO vote at this session, millions to
increase the efficiency of the Navy, and build and
equip war-steamers.
Mr. Mckay replied to the different speakers, par
tcuary to the gentleman from Indiana. He spoke
at some length
Mr. FILM ORE inquired of the Chairman of the
Naval Committee, whether the estimates for powder
&C. were not included in those of the War Depart
ment
Mr.. WISE thought not He replied TO the gentle
man from North Carolina as 10 the proper amount of
appropriations at this time
Mr. FILLMORE observed that in former years
the appropriations f the Naval Ordnance had been
included in those for the War Department
On motion Of Mr., WISE, the Committee then
and reported both the Navy bills The first with and
the second without amendment.
Mr.. /. w. WILLIAMS, of Connecticut, renew
ed in the House the amendment he had offered in
Committee suspending the repeal of the act of 1887
MIR. J, w. WILLIAMS, of Maryland, moved To
postpone the subject to this day week.
MIR. JOHN QUINCY ADAMS expressed him
self with great force and warmth against the amend.
ment passed in committee, and urged the noncor-
currence of the House He had been prevented, by
his occupancy Of tile Chair from presenting his views
in the Committee of the Whole as he had earnestly
desired and took the first occasion TO expose the
injustice and cruelty of the amendment, -depriv wing
as 1t would the widows and orphans Of so many OF
our naval heroes of their means of subsistence He
gave history OF legislation this subject, The
act of 1897 was certainly loose in its PROVISIONS and
was capable OF msapphcaon; but revision aud
amendment was the remedy against the undeserying,
and not repeal which would cruelty deprive many
deserving recipients of It's benefits. The act of 1887
had, it is true been repealed by both Houses of the
last Congress, hut that good Providence which seem
ed To have been exeed to protect these widows and
orphans, had prevented the repeal from becoming a
law, by the delay OF the bill in the Senate, which
caused 10 be sent 10 the President late, that the
fourth OF March arrived before it could receive his
signature. MIR ADAMS spoke for some time with great
power aud effect
Mr. WILLIAMS br, fly urged his amendment TO
the amendment, as securing the rights of all those
whose claims were already established for five years
Many Of the evils of hasty repeal would thus be pre-
vented and time would he gwen for mature revision
of the whole system by the Naval Committee.
Mr. TILLlNGHAST and Mr. WISE joined in
opposing the concurrence OF the House in the original
amendment.
The House refused to postpone the subject. Mr..
Williams amendment was then passed-6l to CD
he amended amendment then rejected.
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