The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-06-22

And the question being on the amendment Of Mr.
Williams .,....,
~; III; netiion was an expression OF the Of the
House al as early period was possible al inns SEES
sion. -, ,,L
As 10 the various propositions which had been sub
mied for reference, he did not how the petition
could with propriey, be referred TO any other than the
| Committee ON Manufactures. The last clause OF a.
that which prayed for protective tar IN case va
tona Bank should be established made the petition
the property of that committee lie had but little To
say on the subject. He repeated that all he desired
expression OF opinion on the part OF the House
He thought due To his constituents that such an
expression should be given lie had not anticipated
that a measure of this kind would be brought forward
by himself he had supposed il would have come from
the majority not from The minority of this House be-
cause the subject had been made one ofthe lmpor
points IN the Presidential campaign IN his District
as they had been promised protective tarli IN case
MIR EVERETT rose 10 a question OF order lie
submitted TO the Chair whether there was any reie
renee made in the Presidents Message to protective
tariff and whether, therefore, the subtc did not come
within the rule adopted by the House prescribing and
limiting the action Of the House during The present
extra session. s.
The SPEAKER said that the revision of the tariff
generally was not particularly recommended IN the
Presidents Message; but that was very dhcnlt or
the Chair to determine between petitions having reie-
to the Compromise act, and petitions having re-
ference to an increase OF duties. One OF the prayers
Of this petition was that there should be INCREASE OF
duties. The President himself bad recommended an
increase, to limited extent to be sure, within me
terms Of the Compromise act. The Char had looked
over the Message with great care, and was not pre-
pared Ia decide that all petitions relating to the tariff
the tariff itself were not proper subject Tor
discussion. II was extremely difficult TO draw the
distinction
Mr.. EVERETT draw the distinction Mr..
Speaker between tariff for revenue and tanh Tor
| protection.
The SPEAKER But gentleman may differ as to
what is tariff for and what is larlf Tor pro-
lection.
the Message referring to the taritf-whch was read
Mr. EVERETT asked for the reading of the petit
ton, which WIS read.
Mr. f. said the whole petition contemplated tarih
for protection He did feel disposed 10 agltae thM
| question: and with view to test the sense OF tne
House TO whether this subject came within the RUE
not, he would take an appeal from the decision oil
1 the SPEAKER.
And the question being on the appeal
Mr. FLOYD of New York, asked the yeas and
nays; which ordered.
| Mr. PROFIT moved to lay the appeal on the
table.
| Mr.. EVERETT inquired of the Speaker whether
that motion if it prevailed would carry the petition to
| the table with it.
| The SPEAKER said it would not
And the question recurring on the motion OF Mr.
Profit to lay the appeal the table, il was taken,
and decided in the affirmative, without DIVISION
| So the appeal was laid on the table.
| And the question recurring the amendment OF
MIR. Lewis Williams
/ Mr.. TORRANCE proceeded in his remarks. lie
sorry he said that any gentleman, especially any
gentleman in the majority, should manifest so much
sensltlyeness this subject He had expected look
ing to the result of the late Presidential election, that
this would have been of the first measures brought
forward by the present majority of the House But not
so seemed. He had heard tell of the intended
peal OF the sub Treasury; he had heard tell OF various
important measures to be brought before the House
but yet he had heard nothing of any intention
on the part of the majority to establish an increased
tariff It was for this reason that he had introduced
this suhject-o test the question whether protective
tariff an increased tariff was or was not TO be
brought forward.
He had introduced proposition of a similar char
acter at the last session of congress- when certain res
outons from the State of Pennsylvania present
ed, asking distribution OF the proceeds of the
sales Of the public lands and the increase OF the
tariff But colleague of his had interposed priv
legged question, and the resolutions laid upon the
table there TO die an ignomnous death lie (Mr
F) thought that these resolutions deserved better
treatment at the hands of the American Congress than
merely to be laid upon the table, never again to be
thought of
There were reasons stated in the body of the petit
ton. 1t believed by many that the present tarh
unequal in its operation the North and South
the necessares of life being taxed whilst Injuries were
admitted duty free For his part and for his consu
ents he thought they could say that they had ever
been exposed to those extremes to which the tari In
this country had been subjected
lie desired to state two three reasons why he
wished this matter to be brought up.
! MIR. J.. WILLIAMS submitted to the Char that
the question now on the reference, and II seemed
TO him Mr. w that the general subje of the tarf
and Of the establishment Of National Bank was not
open for discussion. lie desired the Speaker to de-
eide whether the gentleman in order.
/ The SPEAKER said that the limits Of the debate,
4 properly speaking We're even more narrow than the
gentleman from North Carolina (Mr Williams) had
lndicated-he question being on the amendment to
| the instructions
4 Mr. TORRANCE continued. He had he said,
only very few words to say. This was the first
time he had attempted to take the floor and he had
experienced great difficulty in obtaining it, lie de-
sired, whilst he held 1t, to say few words as TO hs
motives in submitting the proposition he had done and
he would confine himself strictly within the rules lald
down by the gentlemen from North Carolina.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Not by me, but hy the rules OF
this House.
that justice should be done to his constituents, who
had had reason believe that Of the measures Of
| this Administration would be tariff
lie proposed 10 state two three reasons why the
subject should be brought before Congress at this
| time One was this told that one OF the
measures of the Administration to be the distr-
button ofthe proceeds OF the sales of the public lands
Congress had been urged do by the Legislatures
Of different States We had had the measure agiiaed
here, and we knew that it among the recon-
mendations the Presidents Message
II Mr.. BOARDMAN Submitted to the Speaker that
the gentleman from Pennsylvania MIR Fornance)
was out OF order
i The SPEAKER said it was no, in order to discuss
these questions on mere question of reference.
i Mr. TORRANCE continued. Ii this was done, II
would take from the ofour country several mil
lions of dollars and would become TO inquire how
that revenue was to be supplied Was not IN order TO
show that this would take from the Govern
mont at least of It's revenue} Some other
source must be provided il lieu of it. He cared not
how right or proper, or CONVENIENT TO some OF the
States which were embarrassed distribution of the
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