New-York tribune., 1841-10-12

,assed tue TINE OF day with him: | SAID ,hen
poor fellows (,entincls) have bad time OF II
can; .av all that passed We had come converse
ton about the troubles. asked him how man,
had been killed from Nay Island on Canada shore
he. SAID Two il ! remember rizht; and some eonver
saiiuu about how rnsHy was on the Island don
know ,ha; he said or knew how many he .aic
rheg never would haye the Caroline assist then
again ii tley got on the Island he SAID he help.a
to dcsfroy ter; If ! remember right he said be
wax the second third man that boaided her h.
was going to tell me that he came pretty near be-
ing killed very badly hurt. when some one
called him and said come here a momert think
Mcleod said Herring hold on moment he
started right oii. never SAW him before. u my
knowledge.
Cross-cramtned By Nr Spencer.
Knows Mcleod by the man, calling HIM - /;
never him again till saw him mere; va.
pretty confident It Is the same man; looks some
paIer now; asked to point him out, bat did not
he was not IN Court; came here because he was
subpuuoed; wrote a letter VIM. l.. Mackenzie
Or John Montgomery al Rochester stating wha, b.
knew about tue isaiter; has seen Mackenzie once
or twice in Toronto and several times in Roches-
ter; /, Il member of Patriot lodge; Ioued IN
Canada in the fal! of 1898; went to Niagaa l65
niles by stare and boat when he saw Mcleod
had no business there: started 10 60 To Lockport
but did not go went back to Whitby; staid there
three or four weeks and then came away; did no,
cross from Niagara to Lockport, as lc had no pass
and feared hc should be taken " ii r. attempted
to cross withogt one.
Hn. D,6ieif, (sworn.) Resides in Queens.on
is acquainted with the Mor1sons mas been at
their house not more than three times; see Nor
rison 1T Lewiston in Nov. l2i0 he Il witness
Ut McLeod's examination before Squirr Bell in
Nov 1889 talked with him at hi, house in Sept.
1885 when Morrison said he wished the Anie-
rirans would get Mcleod and try hin for his par
ticpalion in the buraiug OF the Caroline he had
not received news that Mcleod hud scduced
daughter of Morn .ons away fom her husband, a
Mr. Taylor in Buffalo, Tins said, before Mr.
Brown, aud MIS- Morrison, witness coming To
Lewiston, and seeng Morrison there undier-
Standing hat be there 10 prove an abb for
Mcleod p,kei him what he meant by what he
said at his own house in 1889 he said that he
formerly lhoush' Mcleod did stay there but
rai>tukcm; said ucLc0d lcaS one of tier MojeSfy'N
sulj jerts. aod must bc protected at any rate.
Cross Examination 6y .Vr. spinner
Never refused before Squire Bell to tell where
he lived not member OF aPa;rlot lodge was
on navy Island eight days was taken prisoner
by Mackenzie when he went there, and kept SO
until the island was evacuated there were 3ii
men rank andti! on parade, beside guards around
the island witness is a school,teacher; did not
set up a school on Navy lsland-they knew more
than did there l. q native ci Canada.
Joip z Fannmg (sworn) [Oiiered 10 show
that no resistance made from the Caroline,
and no firing, to impcach generally the deposl-
uous OF the assaants by con,radictlng them on
this point Mr. Spencer argued very powerfully
against the proprlcty OF admitting the testimony
al this stage of the case. Mr. Hall replied with
warmth The Judge ruled that the testimony OF.
lered was immaterial and lnadmlssbe The tes-
timony Of John b. Teveti and Christopher IL
Smith o the same point was likewise ruled out
.Ioia liacom3cr and Donjci Barte7- called ior
the third time MOI present.
Joseph C,pter called Not present.
Defence resumed
Mr. Spencer read the evidence, before Squire
Bell, of IIiliidrn Detield, who then stated that he
never coGversed with Lieut.. Morrison on the sub
iect Of the burning OF the steamboat Caroline tli
the evening previous: Lieut.. N then SAID that he
would not state positively hatMcl-eod was al his
house the night the Caroline was burnt, bui he
was there frequently; witness declined ts state
where he lived the winter the Caroline was
burned
Br. .loseph Haaaion called Lives IN Queens
ton knows Detiield, aud has known tim from
boy His reputation ior ruth and veraciiy Is bad
Knows Lieut.. MpIflSon "Iao MS t' 'P"ti'toii '''
truth - unsGillcd.
Gross eraiaineR Jg NJ ilaH. Has no intimacy
with Lieulrnan, Morrison; negoiates his bills
drawn for his pay lives four miles from hlm
never heard hs character iot integrity questioned,
bat has for sabliely; he lives on his pay Is well
known Deiiied mas resided at Cuerns,on, oiiand
on from childhood knows nothing personally 10
his dlscredit: his want OF veracltv Is matter "i
no,oriety when his affidavit II Lewiston came
ont, heard hs character canvaSsed. ana 1t was
declared to be bad. knows all the neIghoorhoGd
around Lieut Morrison. and know his reputation
to be uniformly good.
knows Deteid; was a sergeant IN the milta
before he deserted 10 Nary island know OF such
desertion bv aiidayi,s also Is a brother OF She1-
NJ Hamilton. under whom Mcleod was deputi
INIr. HALL Is Mcleod debtor OF your brother'
Objected 10, but allowed. -4nS Not dire city:
there have been defaults in the Sherlit : oilce;
mas heard these are debts due from McLrcd
do nj know much about It inquiry arrested by
the Court:l don't know ms that brother ever
threatened 10 dismiss Mcleod orh his share IN the
Caroline affair; lstopped aga!n.l
Direct Resumed heard Lieut.. MorFison
has been a sober man ever since he went to Lew
i,,on IN behalf ot Mr. Mcleod M HGA-Do
YOU know iha; Lieut.. Morrison IN 1851 was III
the habit Of nioxication GRued out
John ,iscom5sr, (called for the proSeeuuon)
Knows Samuel Drown; MS reputation tor train
and veracity is unimpeachable lives i've miles
from him.
character is not very well acquainted with nm
Joseph Ccnter, (called Tor the prosecution
Arsn6ed the taking OF the Commission n Can
NADIA. on behalf of the People was present on
,b,. examination OF Harris; the Commissioners IN
I F.,-.l IN rel Ls down The answer -