Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-12-20
TWENTY-SgVENTH CONGRESS.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
TpuRsp.r, Dec. I6, Isii.
PRESlDEN rs MESSAGE.

House would consent, nav to take IL up and dispos
ut II.
Mr FILLMORE then submitted seric, of re
solutions, 'eteuirs the various portions Of the Mes
sage TO d,ifcr rn; Committees.
Me- WISE desired 10 make an inquiry of th
ch,rm,n Of the Committee of Ways ard Mean
MIR Filmore) as to the inrsd .clon which tho gen
;lerap prescribed to the Committee OF Ways an
| Means and TO the Select Committee on the suffice
of finance. BY the resolution raising u,n selcc
committee, the plan OF hnancc recommended by IN
President was alone submitted. The inquiry h
wished to make was, whether the select commute.
raised on this subject confined To the plan sub
united bv the President aonc1
| MIR FiLLMORE said he supposed that If there
| should be any Conflict between the two committee
they would necessarily have To refer the matter I,
| the House for its decision. His own impression wa
(Nr I. was understood TO say) that the resolution
rs now Suhmi'icd, only referred 10 the Commi te,
| OF WAYS and Means that part OF the message refer
red To at page ), (quere 91l &C. 50 much related
TO the condition OF the finances, The receipts and
| pcnditures.
Mr. WISE understood, ;hcr, the GO n,lem'n to say
TINT the general subjec, 81 the currency before
the select COMMITTEE and that if they did choose
10 report plan hey nigh, ropo't another, pro
pose aNv smenitncnt they might choose.
Mr. FILL MORE did not kn'w, he sr;d, how the
House might decide. His object had been to sub
mt to the Select COMMITTEE the particular fiscal
plan; bat h had not supposed that the committee
would be precnjcd from m,kins amendments, OF
that the reference was 50 prNad thlt the House
would I've prec'udei rom bringing up the subject in
any other sh,p-, should 1t think proper. He had
no disguise about tie Loai'cr and wished the House
to dispose Of Il rs 'hev chose.
tNr W. {. JOHNSON suggested TO Mr. Fill.
more an amendment IN the resolutions, prOviilng
the message, as referred TO tie Cs,,blisement of
National Foundry, be referred 10 the Sslsc; Com
tT'itee already raised on that subject. Ms Fllimors
said he had no objection
Mr. BRIGGS hoped that the resolutions would
be tAkerup regularly IN their order.
MIR ArHERrON called for the reading of the
resolution which proposed 20 refer - the Commit
tee on Mauuac much OF the Message as
related to the iHrifi; which having been read,
MIR ArtiERrON said he supposed tariff wss
tr ue Land for the purpose OF revenue, and not for
the purpose of prutccVon; and he believed that this
question hId always cone M in the FIST place on
the disposition OF has part OF the Message. Those
who we're willing TO - Tor a tariff tor protection to
iay du,ies for the express purpose OF Protecting
manufactures, and no, for tie purpose Of revenue,
Il ad generally been in favor, far lac undcr
stood, OF referring that pirt of the Message TO the
ComnEee CT VI lnutaciures; while those who sup
nosed that a .srtf on Y he Lard for the pLr-
o)sc Of revenue, had vo,ei for reference 10 the
Comrhl'ce OF Ways and Means.
lie moved. therefore, 10 amend the resolution, by
striking out the COMMITTEE on Manufactures, and
ms rIlns the Committee on ways and Means.
Mr. TILLlNGuAST rose and addressed the
Chair, when
Mr. EVERETT submitted to the Spe lker, as
question Of ofJer, that the resou be taken
up IN the r order emo tire question put upon them.
The SPEAKER said hit the Ques' ION would be
taken all the resolutions unless q division was
called for.
Mr RtlETr called for division on each resou.
ton. which ordered.
The question was then taken on the fgs: resolu-
ton, winch was adopted as follows:
|. Rssclusf TIN, so much OF the Annual Mes.
81. Ha.Ys III,
ments, communicates 10 this House on the TN IN
sian', relates 20 tho subjects OF controversy and
negotiation between this Government and Great
Britain, and also 50 much thereof relate. to our
relations with other foreign n-iIons, be referred
the Committee ga FO eisn ATurs.
And the CUE slon was taken on the second reso-
luton, which Was adopted rs follows:
?. Rssoired, Ina: so much thereof rs relates 10
the suppression oil the Aircin slave trade, and 81
much thereof relates To the removal OF causes n-
vOvn. our n'trnNuVna. oLis tons from the State To
the Federal JUDICIARY, AMI also So much rheIeC!
re acs 10 he regulation ard restraint Of Executive
power IN removals from ONCE, b. referred TO Ihr
Committee on The Judiciary.
AMI the question recurring on the adoption OF the
fDur.h resolution, ~ wit:
Rssclrsd, That So much there 4 rs relates 10
the hnance OF the Government, be referred 10 the
Committee Of Ways and Means.
MIR CUSHING cater a suggestion not heard
tNtl W L!lc EEsJluNC.l DV Slrlh
ing o-t tie words"'o much ss relates to she inan-
ces," ard insert, $50 relates TO the state Of
the Treasury ana the w,ys sno means"
MIR L. BUTLER KING wes understood to
say that he considered Ino duties OF tie select "om
mIttee 10 be confined TO particular scheme OF n.
nances recommended by the President
Mr. EVERETT said he Understood the select
committee to have been raised. not on the currency
but on the plan OF finance recommended by the
President. and that oniy.
NJ CTTStIINC. cid 81. l.
RELAXED 10 ,he extent Of the III les Of the Commit
Tee ct Ways and Means, not OF the Committee Of
Finance.
Mr. STANLY desired to max. an inquiry of
the chairman OF The select committee on the Currency
(Nr Cusbing.l Did the gcntleman esire that The
concurrent jurisdiction, pr"y.deL the select CON.
mt0te could n; UgrC fsciltyl
Mr. FILLMORE ssid he desired to make sug
gesion. The 5,n page OF the Message, [que,y III
wOfLs: ZION ,ho rDpor. OF the Secretary of the
Ire 'sIry you viii &c Informed OF tn1 c1ud ton of
the aces" and hen u went on state what that
coHc IN was. Els Intention had been to refer that
part Of the Message and the report that Wa 20 ac-
c pms. ~ O., to NE Committee OF WAYS and Means
His ImteG;i,A n'sO h1d been 10 c0nfine the select
COMMITTEES 70 the pan submitted by the President
as dCsCri- "a the Preside mt IN pige II If the
Message IL h'd not intended TO make CON.
mIfec on TIE ncy, nor TO prevent he House
from r1isirg another committee, or from referring
the subject 20 standing committee, IN case IN Sc
lect comm uee could not agree. Nor, at the same
time, had he intended to preclude the committee
from making amendments. tic repeated his Inten.
tun was to refer TO the select COMMITTEE the plan
Described by The President; and # tie House should
afterwards think proper to exercise rs power, it
Mir WISE said Ina; his only objec, in making
the inquiry I've did fsom the gentleman from New
York thT fl.morel was. 10 know the defined Ii
mi's OF the jurisdiction Of the select committee He
(Mr W. ctr1d not whether the House gave the
select committee concurrent jurisdiction or a Sc
parate and exclusive jurisdiction. lie only desired
TO know what the jurisdiction was that was given
10 the committee. Ceuiiniy, rs the re.oiution was
nov drawn II very underlined and obscure.
The SPEAKER said he had INDUCED this con
veTs1llOna Dc buie 10 extent Of rrelevdncy which
wac entirely out Of order. The power Of the select
committee could not b. settled under the resolution
now before the House. That committee might raise
the question of power by separate resolution, or
IN tie form NJ report
Mr. WISE SAID his remarks were addressed 10 the
power Of the Committee Of Ways and Means.
The SPEAKER said that would be in order.
Mr WISE cid h. htd' y onds red l, tho beginning
Of the session why the chairmin Oflhe Committee
Of Ways and Ileans should propose TO strip him
self Of the power belonging TO that com,nittss
Here WIS resolution proposing TO give to the COM
mttee on Manufactures the whole subject Of the
tariff; and Il The subject of the finances was vsn
to select committee, what was left Tor the Com
mree Of Ways and Mcansl Simply the ordinary
appropna'on-a very light task, indeed. file hop
Cd that, ii the chairman would not dehn (cOnhnt)
the jurisdiction Of the committee the House would,
and he know no better mode Of accomplishing the
obj than by adopting the amendment Of the gen
item IN from Massachusetts,, tNr Cushing.)
Mr. EVERETT suggested 10 Mr. Fillmore IN
insert m the resolution the words "eIcepl the plan
oi hn1nce recommended by the President"
Mr. FILLMORE said he would accept the mod.
hcauon.
Mr. r. in reply 70 the remarks Of Mr. Wise, was