The daily Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1841-1845, 1841-12-17
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,,
THURspAY, December l6, |

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.,
THURSDAY, December l6, l64l.
Mr.. TALIAFERRO asked leave to introduce
resolution granting to William Smith, of Virginia,
the usual pay and mileage OF Representative
for the late special session, during which he was
contrasting the seat then, occupied by Linn Banks
Cries of no nop
Objections being made the resolution with
drawn. ..tt
Mr. FILLMORE moved the appointment of mem
bers on the part Of this House, on the Joint Commit
tee on Enrolled Bills He remarked that until this
was done, no bill could become law The APP
pointment was ordered.
Mr.. RICHARD W. THOMPSON gave notice of
his Intention in due form, TO ask leave to introduce
bill providing for the repairs and continuation Of
the Cumberland road in the State of Indiana.
Petitions being called for in the order, where in
terrupted by the adjournment yesterday, were pre-
scented.
From Florida, by Mr. Levy.
From Wisconsin, by Mr.. Henry Dodge.
From Ioaca, by Mr.. A. G. Dodge
/ MIR. FILLMORE inquired If all the States and
Territories had been gone through, for petit
tons Being answered in the affirmative, he eX-
pressed his hope that the House would now consent
take up the Presidents Message, and dispose of it,
by referring the different portions to the appropriate
committees.
Mr. ADAMS made some inquiries of the Speaker,
not heard; but was supposed by the reporter to be
Directing any business which should interfere with
were the reference of sundry petitions yesterday
objected to-
The SPEAKERS answer was also unheard; but
was supposed to assent to MIR. ApAMss objection
a suspension of the rules of course being necessary
Mr. FILLMORE would then TO suspend the
rules for the purpose OF taking up the Presidents
Message; and on that motion he asked the yess and
nays, but withdrew his call.
/ The. House voted suspension
Mr. FILLMORE moved to take up the Message !;
xphI wa aurep IN he hen off. Inv ara
consent series Of resolutions for !. That the por
lions relating to controversy with Britain and our
Foreign Affairs generally, be referred to the Commit
tee on Foreign Relations. q That relating to the AT
Iican slave trade to the proposed constitutional prov
sion connected with international affairs and TO the
proposed constitutional amendment restricting Execu
tive patronage-to the Committee the Judiciary.
g. That relating to the Sixth Census and the Appor
tonment OF Representat,ves-to the select committee
appointed that subject. 4. That relating TO the
Finances Of the counlry-to the Committee of Ways
and Means s. That relating to the Tarf-to the
Committee Manufactures.
Mr. WISE here interrupted the reading to ask Mr..
Fillmore to the jurisdiction which he severally pre-
scrbed to the Committee Of Ways and Means, and
the Select Committee the "plan of Finance" on
the subject of finance generally. Did he wish to Ii
init the Select Committee solely to that plan offnance
referred to in the Message
Mr.. FILLMORE said, if any conflict arose between
the committees to jurisdiction these subjects, it
would be referred to the House for their decision
His own impression was, that the House had refer
red to the Select Committee only the plan OF finance
mentioned the Message.
Mr.. WISE wished to know whether the Commit
tees to be limited exclusively to that PLAN or,
failing of agreeing upon that, to be at liberty to
take up any other He cared not himself whether
they to be limited not, but wished the ques-
ton of Jurisdiction to be decided.
! Mr.. FILLMORE said he had no private opin ion
on the subject but governed by what he supposed
to be the judgment of the House
| 1.-THE reading Of the resolutions than continued
! g. That part Of the Message relating to the Army,
the notifications, and the Florida war; to be referred to
the Committee on Military Affairs
| Mr. WIN. COST JOHNSON here suggested an
amendment referring the portion relating to Nation
al Foundry 10 the select committee that subject
which amendment was accepted by Mr.. Fillmore.
! 7. That part relating to the Navy and the maritime
deiences OF the country-to the Committee on Naval
Affairs. s, That relating to the Post Office esab-
lishment Ito the Committee on Post Offices and Post
Roads. 3. That relating to the Smithsonian be-
quest to the select committee that subject 10,
That relating to the affairs of the District Of Column
bia TO the Committee on the District.
/ Mr.. AT HERTON said he should like to hear that
part relating TO the Tariff read again. 1t was
read He understood the Message to refer TO Ia
riff for Revenue alone, not to Tariff for the protec-
ton Of Manufactures. II was, therefore, question
for the Committee of Ways and Means. The refer
ence would be decisive to the character of it, This
question always comes up on every proposition relating
10 a arm, anu Is lest question: nose VINO go 1or
a Tariff of protection vote for reference 10 the Com
mttee on Manufactures. Those who go for Tariff
of Revenue merely vote 10 refer it to the Committee
on Ways and Means. He moved TO strike out the
word Manufactures and insert {" Ways and Means
! Mr. TILLINGHAST took the floor, but
Mr. EVERETT urged that the debate was out of
order.
/ The SPEAKER assented
I Mr. ATHERTON said he could ask division OF
the question,
! Mr. GUSHING; asked for division
Mr. RHETT asked if it was not in order to ask for
division Of the question all of the resolutions SC
as to bring the House TO separate vote on each,
i The SPEAKER said ii was, if any member de-
sires il.
Mr. RHETT did ask it,
The first, second and third resolutions then
passed singlyi without debate and without dissent.
On the fourth resolution, MIR. CUSHING said he
had distinctly understood the explanation of the gen
temsn from New York He asked now if the Com
mittees Ways and Means and on the Plan of Fl
nance TO he considered as having concurrent u-
rsdction on the general subject of Finance
I Mr. FILLMORE said that it was understood that
the state of the Finances generally referred "a
the Committee an Ways and Means, the specific
plan of Finance mentioned in the Message alone
referred to the Select Comnittee
/ Messrs. KING and EVERETT remarked that the
distinction was very PLAIN, and thought The motion re-
atlng 20 the select committee out ot ofder.
II Mr.. CUSHING said he made motion of amend
ment not TO inquire into the jurisdiction of the select
committee, but into that Of the Committee Of Ways