The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-08-17


when there was surplus in The Treasury equal TO
the land fund, and fund OF two millions
besides
Mr. SMITH, of la said the amendment was d
reetly opposed TO the bill II repudated the whole
principles of the measure; il was a question of
"blll or no bill" So long as they looked TO The land
fund portion of the ordinary source of revenue
there never would be surplus collected from other
sources. lie considered If this amendment prevailed
distribution would be at end and he hoped it
would be voted on in that manner.
Mr.. CLAY, of Alabama, briefly further explained
his amendment and repudaIed the idea of dslrlbu-
ton, when il was To be sustained by taxation Of the
People.
Mr. BENTON held the bill to be the most uncon-
shtutiona that was presented TO the Senate in
that respect, II was entirely unprecedented. lie did
not now oppose Il distribution OF the proceeds OF
The public lands, but as lDsdlous attempt TO seize
ondhe Custom house revenue He contended that
the bill was manesly unequal in It's operations, cast
ing great and dspropDrtionate burdens the export
ing States, lie spoke at length against the bill and
gave notice that he should offer amendment on amend
ment till the principles of the bill were fairly under
stood
PRESIDENTS VETO MESSAGE
The Message Of the President Of the United States
returning the Fiscal Bank Bill with objections was
here received and the Lane Bill was passed infor-
mally.
The Message was read by the Secretary, and is to
be found IN another column.
AT the close of its reading faint expressions of APP
probation as well as dsapprobation heard in the
galleries when
Mr. BENTON rose and said Mr. President,
there are Kisses here at the reading of the Presden
tia Message. have heard them, sir, and feel in
dignant that the American President shall be insued
have been nsulted by the Kisses of rufians in this
gallery, when opposing the old Bank of the United
States. While am here, the President shall never
be lnsulted by Kisses in this hall. ask for no such
thing clearing the galleries. but let those who have
made the disturbance be pointed out to the Sergeant
at farms, and be turned out from the galleries Those
who have dared to insult our forms Of govern
mentor in insulting this Message they have insult
ed the President and forms of government those
rufhans who would not have dared to Insult the King
surrounded by his guard, have dared to insult the
American President, in the American Senate; ard |
move that the Sergeant arms be directed to turn
them out.
The manifestations of disturbance in the gallery
ceased when MIR. Benton commenced speaking
MIR. RlVES regretted that any disturbance had
taken place. He doubted not but the Senator had
heard IT, but must say in all sincerity he did not hear
the hiss AT all events, was slight and of short
duration, that the majority Of the Senate scarcely
heard IT, lie hoped that no proceedings Of this kind
would take place, and that this manifestation Of dis
turhance when so deep an interest felt, and
which was so Immediately quoted, would be passed
over The general opinion of Senators around him
was that the honorable Senator was mistaken. (Mr.
BENTON | am not misaken--l am not. D He hoped
they would pass by Of those little ebullitions
of excitement which were unavoidable, and which
not offered to insult this body the President
the United States.
Mr. BENTON heard the Kisses and heard them
distinctly if doubt raised on il, he would bring
the matter TO question of fact, true not true. -
No man should doubt whether he heard them not.
He came here this DAY prepared 10 the American
President insulted by bank bullies and he told his
friends that it had been DONE and that they never
could proceed IN action on bank when the American
Senate would not be nsulted, either by kissing on one
side, or clappng on the other. lie told them, II 1t
was done the American President should
be nsued this day, by bank ruilians ust he
should rise in his place and move To have those disturb
of the honor and dignity OF the Senate brought To
the bar of the Senate. He would not TO clear
the galleries for thousand orderly people there
who not to be turned out for the distu OF
few ruflans He would tell the Senator from Virgi-
mia that he Nhe Senator) should hang doubt on his
declaration and if it were doubted, he would appeal
TO Senators near him. CHR WALKER. | will an
| swer most directly that | heard it and believe the
/ same bully is going now A National Bank
Continued MIR is not as yet, master, and shat
not be; and he would undertake TO vindcae the ho
nor of the Senate, from the ourages pepetraied on 1t
| by the myrmidons Of National Bank Wer. the
slaves of National Bank to have the privilege of in
| sutng the Senate, just often vote passed con
trary TO their uishes il was audacity that mus,
be chez kedand checked before they went with arms
their hands TO fire those who gave votes contrary
He put the whole at defance-the entire Bank, and
its myrmdons.
MI PRESTON said if any thing had occurred in
the gallery out of order it should be strictly impaired
into and punished. He himself did not hear the
manifestations of disapIrobaon alluded TO by the Sc
majors the other side but II was sufficient for HIM
that the Senators heard it, supposed that they
heard it. Mr.. BENTON. We did not suppose we
heard it knew it) In this case Continued Mr..
p formal investigation should take place II was
/ a pft hp M aS n
nate he desired to lnvestigatlon--to see the
charge fixeG on some person. and u properly sus-
tanned, 10 see punishment awarded Manifestations
of praise censure were emnently wrong, ana emf
ncnty dangerous and II due 10 every member Of
the Senate thai they should preserve the dignity of
the body by checking it. He hoped, therefore, If a
formal motion was made, il would be discovered who
had caused the distuI bance and that they would be
properly punished
Mr. BUCHANAN said this was a very solemn
and momenous occasion, which would form crisis,
perhaps in the politics of the country and he should
hope he believed that every American citizen pre-
in the galleries would feel the importance of this
crisis and feel deeply sensible Of the high character TO
which every man. blessed with birth in this free
try should aim. He heard, distinctly heard, the hiss
referred to by the Senator from Missouri, Mr. Ben
ton but he bold TO say II was not loud and pro-
longed, but arrested in momen-hc believed
partly from the Senator rsing and partly from the
good sense and good feeling Of the people in the gal
leres. Under these circumstances, it only com
menced and did not proceed, if he had the power of
persuasion he would ask the Senator from Missouri
withdraw his motion. Mr.. BENToN. | never will,
SO help me God He thought il better far better,
that they proceed TO the important business before
them under the consideration that they should be
disturbed hereafter; and if they were he would 90
as far as the Senator from Missouri, in Immediately
arresiing it, He would much rather 20 with the
business in hand.
THE man who the principal actor in the dis
turbance was here taken from the gallery, under the
custody Of the Sergeant at arms
After further remarks by Messrs. LINN, MER-
RICK, KING, PRESTON, RlVES, ALLEN and
WALKER upon the subject OF order, and giving
Of The exent Of this dist nIhance Ii