The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-07-17


passed at the last session Of Congress Also that he
state the amount of advances made out of the Treasu
ry since The Sd day Of March last, whether with or
without such authority.
Mr.. EVANS offered the following amendment
And u advances have been made since the Sd Of
March last without authority from the President, that
he inform the Senate on what authority, or rule or
practice Of the Department such advances have been
made"
The resolution and amendment were then adopted.
The resolution offered some days iince, calling on
the President for the for the removal Of
tain public officers, taken up, and after brief
conversation, was again laid on the table
Mr.. ALLEN rose TO submit inquiry to the
chairman OF the Committee Foreign Relations; he
had Understood that the chairman of that committee
was absent but he deemed an immediate answer i'm
portant Ii was very well known that the President
Of the United States had communicated certain mat
tiers TO the Senate in relation to the affair of the Caro-
line and Alexander Mcleod. That part of the Pre-
sidents message was referred to the Committee on Fo-
reign Relations, and he wished 10 ask whether it was
the intention OF the committee to report any thing
the subject
Mr.. TALLMADGE was a member of that COM
mee and he was not able to say that there had been
any determination the subject, and far he
concerned he was not prepared to give any answer
until the chairman returned, who had this matter
more especially in charge
Mr.. CLAY, Of KY, said there seemed to be MOTH
ing before the Senate and he would appeal 10 them to
take up the Loan Bill by general consent. He was
that there could he disposition TO embarrass
the Government by the want of means to carry its
operations and maintain its credit and without some
speedy succor it was not able to meet its promises
and pay its debts On the 18th instant there was
less than a million of dollars in the Treasury
not enough to carry the wants OF Govern
ment for fortnight. He referred to honorable
gentlemen the they had usually taken on
, Treasury Note Bills no opposition was made to
) them; and now he asked in lberaty and candor,
whether it would not be better for them TO their
t opposition for other measure, and give them
speedily the necessary for carrying the ope
} rations of Government.
Mr. CALHOUN spoke for no one hut himself and
he felt that bill that would be introduced this SEES
sion would be more important than the Loan Bill
He regarded this as the commencement Of perma-
nent debt and If 1t came up, he should feel bound to
resist as firmly and obStinatey any bill to be pre-
sened during this important session. He trusted that
the Senator would not insist IN calling it up, but let
them 60 and finish one thing at once and he would
amendments, and then fix Monday, any other day,
d to take up the bill 2
;. Mr.. CLAY. For other reason, than that the
u wheels of Government will stop. tell you We must
pass the bill, and pass it this week.
Mr.. WRIGHT Vas willing to extend to the ma
jority the aid had been given by them to
his friends when in power, for supplying the wants
: of Government, by the Treasury Note bills. But
he contended that this bill not of the same char
acter-not to supply the temporary wants OF GoveIn
ment but to furnish means which would render II
possible to dispose of entire branch OF the pub
lie revenue In that sense and that alone, he shoule
oppose the bill 1t would be desi able to get through
J. with the bill under consideration before another wal
% taken up which it appeared to him might be done
70 and the Loan bill postponed three four days, con-
sidering the amount stated by the Senator to be IN
the Treasury, and the accrulng revenue
u Mr. CLAY said the spirit of the Senator was ere
ditabe 10 him. nd similar that by which he usual
y actuated. But he incorrect in his assertion,
the design of this bill was rot to provide for the
+ nft ~ IF haI hR
bill passed. it would not take effect till next year and
with the money derived from the lands, this bill was
g still necessary. 1t the duty bill which Senators
! could oppose on this ground, and not the loan bill
He referred the length of time consumed several
y in the passage Of the various Treasury note bills
from 1880 l64 none Of which exceeded one day at
their report from the committee to the Senate, AM
most Of which were passed the same day. 1 he ehec
of this bill precisely the same to supply the want
Id of the Treasury and he had thought that Senator
IN would waive any objections to this bill, and reserv
ne them for the duty or land bills.
10 Mr. CALHOUN said this different from tn
IN Treasury bills they being merely for the tempe
ne rary supply of Government; and contended that al
corng to the Secretarys report the deficit was but tw
millions Gentlemen had promised retrenchment an
n economy, and now for creating permanent nj
tona debt.
p Mr.. HUNTINGTON said the position of the S.
as nator from South Carolina, most extraordinary
10 The chairman of the Committee on Finance had tol
them that from information received at the Treasury
they had not more than fortnights funds, and ye
!. the gentleman opposed the consideration of it, VIII
It wasi it? Was the Senator prepared to discuss ii
y from want of information on 1t MOI he was able q
all times to express his opinion these subjects
l. give the reasons.
e Mr.. CALHOUN explained that he had opposed
its being taken up under the expectation of SENATOR
essential part of the entire system which the
gentleman contemplated and would require thorough
consideration.
e Mr. HUNTINGT ON briefly continued his re-
marks in favor of taking up the Loan bill, and Mr.
J ALLEN opposed it.
The question of order then raised as to what
. motion was before the Senate, and
Mr.. CLAY moved to postpone the preceding orders
and take up the Loan bill; and on this called thu
yeas and nays.
Mr. KING would yield to the suggestion Of the no
norable Senator, and take up the bl with the under
standing that it was to supply the immediate wants
ofthe Treasury Ifths Administration intended to Dor
money and tax the people, to distribute the proceeds
of the lands he could tell them, in spirit of pro-
phecy, that their days were numbered, and that the
people would not submit to it.
MIR. CLAY acknowledged tho liberality the Sena-
tor but reminded him that he had yesterday given no.
tice of this melton, and therefore they could not say
that they were taken by surprise with it.
! The motion was farther advocated by Messrs
: CLAY of KY, WALKER and SEWER and OPP
posed by Messrs. CALHOUN, BENTON, AL
LEN and WOODBURY..
Mr.. CLAY then withdrew the call for the yeas and
nays and without division, the motion was carried.
LOAN BILL.
The bill authorizing loan oftwelve millions of dol
lars was then read
, Mr.. CLAY, in concise and comprehensive speech
stated the condition of the Treasury, and the necessi
~ of this loan Immediately He first called the atten
ton of the Senate the Of the Secretary OF
the Treasury In this the amount Of appropriations
for the current year estimated at 1924 2l0 600
There additional appropriations required in the
War Department to the amount oftwo and half mil
all h1e1 tive ant pep
. millions.
The Secretary had omitted about one and half
millions required for a home squadron for ordnance,
and for navy pensions, which, added, would make
twenty eight millions and over. But according 10 his
statement the wants of the year 1926, 73l 900,
and the means OF the year which he (Mr Claw would