Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1841-07-06

meet the consequences OF lneir own dcts, .ne'''''
they Try to skulk out of the difficulty; but their names
will dwinde into obscurity, and aerages will hiss al
their cowardice The gentleman from Michigan ei's
me that he is anxious Ia pay his debts yes, bat he uoes
not 90 to the proper place 10 pay them lie says tha'
he pnts the claim the ground nj right wen, ah
glad at any rate to hear that II saves US ifo' "ui
initiation not put il on the ground oil bounty ou'
tell him his claim of right will dwindle ~ noth,hS
i By and by these lands will be exhausted ana ''e
the same spirit which asks for Distribution WIZ
come here and ask for high Tariff and Inc next STE
will be to beg for direct taxation warn geh'euen
his hnv will not stop: it will go on and on until II
makes this House place for directly taxing al the
Union Now is the time to cut up this system oy Tue
roots Let the policy go on, ana u WIN .'..
debt upon this Government till IT will reel ana 'oef m
der the weight. Some gentlemen, KNOW, "n :, na.
,ional debt 10 be national blessing say II IS ma
t;onal curse and the heaviest OF curses vi all the
base vile contemplate forms oil servy save NE Ho.h
that of mere money, which comes craving aiu
ina lower and lower, cent by cent, chnK ny cn,nh'
mi Il ticks the very earth 1t makes my soul SICK 10
,h;nk of it What! to have States come here from
wear to year and beg of this Government crying give
us some of your dollars to help u.s. and II you nave nj
pot any, do borrow for us some twelve millions:
have said these things now, lest when the oili gets
INTO the House, should be cut oil by the previous
question. But wish you TO keep 1t IN mind then just
as if il had been spoken in the House
would 20 for the last part Of the bill, If 1T was not
for the first part would 90 for the tail with pleasure,
| if | could but get the head cut off. laugh
| 90 for pre- empton-it is fair and right The gen.
tleman from Georgia talked about the People OF the
West getting monopoly of these lands Yes; and
how do they monopoze them; BY being The hardy
pioneers who 90 in advance of society, and open The
wilderness who breast every difficulty and brave
every danger till they turn the wilderness INTO fruitful
fields and spread into spectacle that IS beautiful Tor
the eve to look upon And after they have done all
and suffered all-aer they have been exposed TO The
tomahawk, and been wasted by the diseases OF new
climate, they 10 be treated with contumely and re-
preached because they asked TO be secured IN the fruits
Of their labor | hope not. The bill gives US pre-
emption il is true but it joins il to distribution.
could swallow the TAIL but choke upon the head Of
the monster and the presumption does not tempt me,
because have got very good pre-emption bill al
ready.
tnbIe series of sections which he said he desired to
offer as a substitute for the bill before the Com
mee.
The CHAIRMAN said that the pending motion was
that submitted yesterday by the gentleman from Maine,
(Mr Cford) strike out the enactug clause of the
bi and that, inasmuch that motion involved the
very existence of the bill ITSELF not in order pro-
pose substitute amendment until that motion had
been finally disposed of.
After some conversation, the proposed substitute was
read for lntormation
| Mr. PAYNE said that it was not his intention to go
into an argument the subject his object being
w to submit proposition to the Committee for their
consideration lie did not intend TO occupy the aiten
ton of the Committee at this time; but when iavora-
BILE opportunity should present ITSELF he NIL ht present
his views in relation to the proposition that lie had now
presented.
Mr. AFFORD then and addressed the commit
tee al length, but his remarks were very distinct
" heard at the Reporters desks throug his speech
| He began BY saying that he wished 10 make few re-
marks in relation 10 the bill before the committee, and
that he apprchended that 1t had been brought forward
at an unfortunate time, when the Opposition party
| might be able TO make political capital out Of it
lie thought the question had been brought forward ct
an improper time, and in every respect IN bad
taste lie said il his design not to make a long
Speech but TO present his views in clear and succlnct
form II had been his misfortune heretofore TO speak
only when he excited, or when there was excite
ment the House, but having wish to ntlIc long
speech the committee, and seeing there was no ex-
cement he availed himself of the occasion TO give his
sentiments briefly on this subject
| lie next complained of having been misrepresented
4 las he conceved) in what he had said on former
occasions, and lie warned the reporters and letter
writers note that lie bad not risen TO speak when
the galleries were full, the attendance OF hearers be-
ing remarkably hn,) but when they were nearly clear
so that he could not be accused Of having spoken to
the galleries, as some gentlemen had been on former
occasions.
Mr. A. then noticed briefly some of the remarks Of
the gentleman from Indiana, (Nlr Kennedy in rela
ton the Cherokee lands purchased by the General
Government, and went on 10 remark that the subject
of State Rights very little understood here CON-
pared with what it was in Georgia When State Rights
man to Congress, he found that the State Rights
doctrine differently practlsed upon here than at
home lie (Alr A. admitted that there must be some
little yielding, and that there could not he a strict
application Of the principles in every instance IN mat
tiers Of national legislation. lie protested himself to
be State Rights man, and rs one who ardently
cherished advocated, and defended the principles Of
that party.
Mr. A. next referred TO what had been said by the
gentleman from Maryland MIR. VIM. {. Johnson in re-
gard 10 the distribution Of the proceeds OF the public
lands in connexion with the subject OF State rights, and
ntimated s entire dissent from the position assumed.
He then pointed the fact Of the Indebtedness OF the
States generally, which amounted to upwards OF Two
hundred millions of dollars, and asked II 1t was right,
after they had had most enormous sums appropriated ny
the General Government for the purpose ointerna M
pTovement that they should come here and ask Con-
gress to give them many millions Of dollars out OF the
public Treasury in order TO enable them 10 lIqn'dae
their debts lie was free TO admit, with the advocates
of this BILL that the money arising from the sales OF the
proceeds of the public lands should be divided among
the several States but not at this time. lie was under
the full and firm conviction that II would be nIndicous
and highly improper TO pass distribution bill at thus
particular juncturc of affairs lie wished to be un.
derstood as saying that If the Government was well
off, having plenty of money, and that if there was no
PROJECT Of war, &c, the measure proposed might be
proper enough. But, he asked, how did we STAND .
What are the receipts Of the Government What did
the President tell us, Why, he minated that this was
not the proper time hut that fit was the measure might
be well enough and he submitted to Congress whether,
i'll our embarrassed condition. snch measure would be
advisable.
lie (Nlr Az would ask whether, under the existing
circumstances, il would be proper to take out OF the
Golfers Of the u S. Treasury the money demanded by
The States with view to pay their debts when the m
evitable consequence would be the increase OF our Ia
riff: And when, too, the Secretary of the Treasury
said, in so many words that The Administration could
not pay the national debt and il the interest on IT, that
was all; Mr.. A. then adverted TO what was SAID by the
Secretary of the Treasury his report in relation TO
the state of the finances, and then he argued that we
ought rot 10 abstract any money from the Treasury at
the present time.
lie appealed to the friends of Gen. Harrison, (whom
he wished to God was now living) to remember the
advice of that good man and 10 follow it; but he re-
GREETED to say there seemed to be disposition here
to kill off every man who would not be slave lie
could only say that far as he was concerned they
could kill him off, "a augh and he would be to the
/ Wing true and faithful friend, and although
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