Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-06-05

MIR WISE said he did no, intend To enter into ,hi,
debate, much less into the spirit of this debate
And, with view to enable the House to receive
the Message, he would move to lay the whole sub.
Iect on the table for the present.
Which motion having been agreed to, the whole
| subject was laid on the table for the present.
| MIR HABERSliANi introduced his colleague, the
Hon. Thomas +. Foster, Representative elect from
the State OF Georgia, who was qualified and took
| his seat.
| message was received from the Senate, stating
that that body had coneurred in the resolution
| adopted Ivy this House yesterday providing for the
| appointment OF JOINT committee TO wait the
President and ini1im hum that quorum OF the two
Houses were assembled, aud were ready TO receive
any communication he might be pleased to make.
Mr. PIChENS then offered the following resolu-
ton, (bcins that alluded to by him in the earlier
part OF this days proceedinss:)
Resolved, That the seats Of this House be num-
bered, and that the members proceed TO draw for
them by lot.
tCries Of agreed, asreed."l
MIR PlCkENS referred TO the great confusion and
uncertainty which prevailed in this respect, which
he illustrated by reference TO particular of
himself and another member. All he asked was,
that some rule might hc adopted which would opc-
rate equally on ALL lie woulo dc bate the pro-
position. he did not wish to come in collision with
any OF the members; his only desire was that some
equal and just rule should be adopted, and he knew
of mono SO far this.
After some debate the subject was laid on the
table.
A Message in writing was received from the Pre-
sden; OF the United States, through Robert Tyler,
Esq his Private Secretary; which having been read
by the Clerk-
MIR. BARNARD moved that the Message and
accompanying documents be laid on the table, and
that they be printed; and that 10000 extra copies
printed for the Of the House, o, which 5000
should be printed with the accompanying doeu-
ments-
Mr.. BRIGGS. Let the whole number be printed
with the documents
Mr. BARNARD said he had no objection, and
he modified his motion to that effect.
Mr. BOLTS asked MIR Darna.d L. accept twenty
thousand n modification. For his own part, he
would rather say fiIy thousand than twenty thou
sand. There had been no period IN the history OF
our country when the People were looking with 50
much anxiety FOR the Message of the President as at
thus time; and, under these circumstances, he hoped
that twenty thousand at least would be printed.
MIR. BARNARD con;onded, in reply, that the
Message would be published IN all the newspapers
throughout the country. And II was with that view,
aud from desire that the subject of the public
printing should I've pursued with much economy
rs possible, not, however, in a stntns manner, that
lie was Inuisposed TO 90 for So large 4 number
that indicated by the gentleman from Virginia, mir
BouS) He would not object To printing fifteen
thousand extra copies of the Message, ten thousand
Of which should be accompanied by the documents.
And Mr. B. was understood TO modify his motion
accordinsly.l
MIR Bolts said that, as the gentleman from
New York mir Barnardl had declined to ac-
ccpt the modification, he MIR b. would move that
10000 copies be printed, 5000 OF which should be
accompanied with the documents. Though II was
true that the newspapers published the Message,
yet there was great number OF people who did
not take newspaper.
MIR LEWIS WILLIAMS hoped the number
would not exceed 10000. lie necessity for /.
going beyond that.
Mr. BRIGGS said that the Message would ., in |
all the papers, the documents would not, and he I
hoped that the full number OF documents would be /
ordered that might be ordered of the Message. lie
would move, rs an amendment 10 the motion OF the .
gentleman from Nrgntn, (Mr Botrs,) that 10000 |
copies Of the Message and accompanying documents /
be printed.
Mr. Bolts accepted the modification.
Mr. PlChENS did not wish, he said. to interfere |
with the course OF the majority in relation printing
the Message. Tie should acqgGsce ~ any motion
they might desire. But he wished to bc distinctly
understood that by thus voting, nc was no: 10 be
considered, directly or indirectly, supporting
OF the doctrines contained IN the Message. Probably
from merely having the document real, he had not |
distinctly understood some part OF u; but If one OF lis
recommendations was that there should be 4 dStII |
button OF the public lands OF any portion Of the
revenue, thereby creating stock interest in tie
States, and Organizing a central power 10 be regu-
lated and controlled 10y the General Government,
no matter whether under the name of a Bank Of the
UnIled States, or any other, 10 regulate the paper
currency las II was caecl @; THIS country, he en-.
tered his solemn protest against II doctrine new
and dangerous ~ tie eNIeme.
Mr. GRAHAM renewed The original motion Of
Mr. Barnard, TO pint 10000 extra copies OF the |
Message and documents.
The question was then frs, taken on the motion |
to Jay the Message and accompanying documents |
on the table, and 10 pint the ordinary number; |
which was aged 10.
The question then REQUIRED n the mod fed TO |
ton Of Mr.. Boris, 10 PRINT 10000 copies OF tie |
Message and documents.
Mr.. ATHERTON referred 10 the number pint. !
ID at the asst session.
Mr.. STANLY ne; the allusion by reference 70 |
the Journals Of The House, "a shosIng the cours-
Of the then ascendant party N such cases
Mr. BROWN, Of Pensy.ylnia, deprecated these
references 70 past legs lie protested against
reading what had been don. IN former Congresses
as e rule FOR the guidance Of tlIs Hons. tie had
heard ON the mountains and the valleys tie cry
that the expenditures OF the GOvenmen, were isr
to- great for ~ revenue, and this House had been
sent here % reform and !et!eucE. Gethe had BOXED
10 VAN 10 the Message for any Recommendation 20
bring these expenditures down. In the absence Of
il, and 30 test the honesty o. those principles which
had been proessed by ine majority Of This House,
he would begin the task nDS. WAen they showed
the People Of the United States tina; tnCy we're
ready u reform in small things, the People would
then believe :E-t they were homes! 10 their pIOiss
sions as 20 large. things.
Mr.. MORGAN cgncuu.d, lie said, with the
gentleman from Pennsylvania, mir. BrOwn) that
the cry Of reform had gone forth over the land and
nc tCNno HaL me commencement o. hat reform
would he found IN the VOC that would he given IN
TINS resolution. AEJ be .sisved that The dictates
Of true economy would be Jcst consulted ~ print
ing the highest number propOsed-ihgs spreading
the Message before lie People rs widely as pos T.
sIyie. The gentleman had said lie wished 70 hear
nothing Of the past. !: vas because the gentleman .
and ms pIry were unwilling that the trinsactlOns
Of he past should be made knowing 10 the Public. .
Wei might they say, "TsIk not 20 W n p. e,eden;
read nothing u Is J' the history OF tie past Admin.
istgluOn" i. vas because that history wss spread
tOrh IN the dJc.msn. he held 10 his hIni !: was
yecl1se the Pope were 70 frank = wha. the con.
ditDn Of heir Government was, shat 0, yyss in diff
Gully, that u KS bankrupt, that u lad rot the means
. pay Is hgn.st dsy,s u wls fDrn these reasons
l.a. Dc tNr. NJ desired 20 circulate tie Message
o. cRiensys.y a. pOss Die. Add be trusted Dist
wHcn the true condition OF the country was once .
male known % the People, every man Of the Wing .
plrty would 70 gs.drY 20 work, that the IDENTITY T.
Of their principles and their professions nigh, a,
ono be established.
Mr.. WISE urged 1ction, without the los, Of time .
iu Debating reform Or anY thug else. lie would .
vote Tor 10000 copies Of tie Message and doeu.
meni.. ''a' being Toe usua. number. Lot the Me-.
slge 10 printed, and then he gentleman from south
Clro.na ang a.. d US would see wHlt I,s meaning
vas.
Mr.. ARNOLD 'who vas scarcely hsarJ ~ .hs
Nepffp vas understood n express h.mss iayo. .
r're ~ printing ne .1rgcs. number oI the Mrsa4gs
and documents - chat they mgHt Grd ttsir ~ ~,
t'gfy 0z co1in no iHs country. lls VIE as rsueh I
~ l'Vof oi economy any man, but he WI. for ,e
ginning 40 the right end
MfSLADb desired hat these documents ssgyIi
De printer IN permanent form, and was inclined 70
VOC Tor I',VJv copies Of the Msss,ye and I.,ul.