Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-02-23
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
INDIANA CANAL LANDS.
r journal hcing read and amended-

portion of the Wabash and Erie Canal which lies |
between the mouth Of the Tippecanoe river and
TerIe Haute, and for other purposes
Mr.. l.. was proceeding TO explain the case at
some length, when he was arrested on the ground
that motion TO suspend the rules must be put with
out debate.
Mr.. SMITH, of Indiana, asked il a majority |
coudsuspend the rules TO go into Committee of the
Whole on the state oil the Union, ana then ma |
jorty take up such bill as the committee were dis
posed to act uponl he understood n motion 10
suspend for specific purpose would require vote
Of two thirds.
The SPEAKER answered that a majority could |
suspend to 60 into Committee OF the Whole the |
state Of the Union generally, but in that the
unfinished business of the committee OF yesterday
would take precedence.
MIR PROFFlT asked ifthe Committee Of the Whole |
could not be discharged, and the bill taken up in the
Housed
The SPEAKER answered that the bill was of
that nature which made it necessary accord
ing to the rules, TO act upon 1t in Committee Of Ihe
W hole.
The question TO suspend the rules was then put;
so voted in the affirmative, 81 in the negative.
There not being two-ihirds in the affirmative, the
rules were not suspended.
GENERAL APPROPRIATION BILL.
The House tLSI,I FL lived itself into Com.
VwfSe-.en again . .tseI mo Ooili,
miitee of the Whole on the state ofSSe mon, aho
resumed the consideration ofthe bill for the cisir
diplomatic expenses Of Government for the wear
lsil. Mr. Bell again called to the chair of the
committee.
| The question pending was the motion of Mr.
Grven, OF Kentucky, 10 strike out III the items of
Appropriation having reference TO the Branch MINIS
] otNorth Carolina, Georgia, and New Orleans and
| the expenditures connected Herewith.
Mr. BlNUM addressed the committee, especial
y IN opposition TO the amendment, and generally
upon various other topics connected with the defence
OF the Administration; the purity of all its inten-
tons and operations; and the probable policy of the
Administration of Gen. Harrison, incudidg a ma.
tional bank, tariff, &c.
MIR b. concluded at twenty minutes past o.
clock.
Mr. TlLLlNGHAST next obtained the floor.
and after expressing himself, according TO his pre-
sent impressions to be in favor ofsriking out at this
time the appropriations for all the branch minis
1.-THE current expenses Of which for the present wear
would amount, he said to S73, SSO) went briefly in
10 the consideration of the subject Of the mint one
rdtloas, and replied to Arguments which had been
made IN regard TO the effect Of this notion if il
should prevail, on the currency Of the country &c
lie leJeved that these Establishments had failed
sgnaily IN the objects for which they were created
Mr. l.. WILLIAMS followed. He would not
follow other gentlemen through the topics on which
they had spoken and which, II followed out would
take up as much time on these minis as thew are
worth, or as the gold they emit. He would NOT
have said word had II not been for the call made
by the gentleman from Kentucky, (Mr Greenl up
on the practical economists OF this House to come
forward and vote for this proposition II that gen.
teal economy, he could refer him 10 members of
this House, who could satisfy him on that roint
MIR GRAVES SAID he would do the gentleman
from North Carolina, MIR Wiams) the Justice 10
say, lhat he tMr G.) had never seen proposition
brought forward here TO reduce or strike out an
appropriation, for which the gentleman had not
voted.
MIR WILLIAMS proceeded to say that he had
been originally opposed to the establishment of
these minis and had voted in opposition 10 them
de na hinkf hey
10 be Profitable. Subsequent reflection, however.
having convinced him that the measure might be
useful merely as an experiment, he had voted for
them as such But he was ready to put them down
whenever he was convinced they we're useless; he
Mr. sTANLY. Be .I .bs ' I.,y were So
hr WILLIAMS. s1nCipi the common Judgment
ofthe People lhsrs a Elsewhere shall be gwen
against them. He denied being governed by any
sectional feeling. The establishment in North Ca.
rolIna vas not IN his District; and il he should be
here 10 iuture sessions, lac would be re 10Y 10 vote
to abolish u whenever The experiment should have
proved failure
Mr.. HABERsHAM having replied u por,ions
Of the argument Of Mr. THInghast. called the AZ. /
tentIon OF the committee TO the matter as il now /
stood. Immense expense, he said, had been incur. |.
red "a The establishment of those mnts the opera.
ton had only heen commemorative experiment had |
not been furry tested, and they ough, not to be /
abolished without at least being allowed fair trial
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expended without accomplishing adequate TesuIts
u The expenses should be found to he useless lei
the establishment be abolished. He would 10 as
Tar as any man N enforcing Just retrenchment
but he wished u 10 DC done on "a genefal system,
AFTER due cOnsIderaiiOn-tO loD on those parts Of
our system that were eXtravsgani and useless. and
u retain those that were sound and valuable Mr.
II. ina need the injurious effects Of rrduetions
which bad not been maturely weighed, by reference
10 the injustice which bad been done last session in
q a. n he ri
Pensions, for which many gentlemen voted who
we're nov on the stool ofrepentance. Mr. a. then
vent into some l1ctn in regard % the utility Of tbo
branch mint IN Georgia, 10 illustration Of his posi-
Ion mat The experiment bad not been fiirly lss-
Mr. EVERETT had originally been ogps.ed 10
he establishment Of these minis, but The was nm.
ierstood 70 sag) he was rather more IN favor Of
hem now.
lie vas opposed 70 the motion 10 strike out The
appropriations, because he considered IL a ylcious
node OF legislation. These estt blshments had beon
sreatedb by Law that Law had not been repealed IL
vas silIl on the statute book and 30 long M IL re.
nQined there, DE considered that Congress was
'onn . 70 moks lhe appropriations required 70 carry
Mr. NJ. A. COOPER contsnded that the policy
ought 70 be sustained by the establishment Cd tbese
hints bad been verified NY experience, and eDtefed
no some Iuflher statements Of iucts 10 the cd
'ontagcs 20 be realized by the continuation Of tbo
Jranch mint 81 Dahlonega. lie contended tbnt die
question Of bank interest he'd much more to do with
We existence Of those branch osiab iahments-w
view he Illustrated az length
MI liLL@DGHAST made some explanations.
y a fepiyto Nj Iabeuham, in yindication or lie
State of Rhode Island.
M 81 My would not enter, he said. into this
! iscufslon, Tor enough he'd already been sad. Ue
hered bom his eoIeaec, Mr. Williams and 49,
gentlemen from George, Messu. Habersb,o and
NJ. a, Cooper, osto tb0 hdy1ntaee NJ kesping ma
hese establishments; but he would not. In d. C,ce
b the sensible argument Of the gentleman for,
Vermont, Mr Eyefeu, vote 10 strike out the ammo.
1raton', leaving the materials &c 10 60 10 dssrnc II
ion, without any one 10 lake care Of them. lie vas
'nT'on'' however, 70 stop Tho debate, u possible
nd gaze notice that ot the proper place in The bin
be would offer the following proposition:
"yindbs a. JgiLsy enacted, That The Secretary Of
ne Treasury be directed 10 institute an inquiry into
ne operations Of the branch minis at Charloue ,
D,shlonega, and Nov Orleans; and TO nfogm the
louise Of Of Representatives,, early IN The month Of
december next, whether these mfnls have answer.
% the purpose Of their creation; What amount oil
'od and silver bss been coined AZ each Of these Z
branches. And the said Secretsry isfurtber direct,
ID 70 inform this House whether the Mint Of Pbila :