Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1841-08-20

MessTs Benton, walker, Woodbury., Clay of Alabama,
Tonnan. McRobcrls, &c. We give sketches when
have been furnished us OF The remarks OF aessfS' Den
,on mo Woodbury., on advocating Mr. Is proposition,
WHICH will serve 10 show the spirit OF The debate
Mr. Benton spoke large and several times, IN sup
mort of his motion He despised the Ill., but IT pass
ed, let it pass for the benefit Of all: let all have tner
share and especially those which need II most. ne
Territories need it most they are young, anu have
every thing TO do They have yet to be set up IN NE.
They paw for the public lands then why not get share
back Of what they pay in' The District OF Columbia
which contains public land, which pays no,h'ns
into the Treasury for public lands, IS To DC ADMIT
ted to distrbutive share Why not place the Terri
tories of Florida Wisconsin, and Iowa, on the same
footing? Is il because they absent-iar of and
the District here to mporune u.s. Is II because lhey
have no Presidential vote to give Is this the reason
they are be left of the bill? BE The reason wha
may, and no reason IS shown here, II Is unjust ao
unfounded. The Territories have right TO be inclu
ded in all the benefits Of the bill vote has already
been taken by which they to he excluded from re-
ceving distrbutive portion in the general DIVISION
lie should endearor at the proper Tune 10 reverse
vote present, he insisted upon including them IN the
ten per cent preliminary distribution which the new
States receive. His motion to give them this ten
per centum on the sales within their limits; and alter
wards he should endeaYor 10 give them share IN the
general distribution.
| Mr.. Woodbury. said he rose in consequence OF n re-
mark from the gentleman from land, that the Ter
rtores had not he ped TO pay for the public lands az
much the District of Columbia.
There Mr.. Merrick explained that the District was
taken from contiguous States, well paid taxes un-
der the tariff into the public Treasury.
| But, Sir said Mr.. Woodbury., were not most OF the
people the Territories emgrants from the old States
bone Of their bone and flesh oftheir flesh?
/ And are not we here on this, other occasions,
egsla ny for human beings and not for land, or earth
and rocks: Are looking, in this distribution, to
the welfare of the being rather than to dead matter to
the mnd-the soul' The people OF the Territories pre-
need educdtion much those OF the District oil 70
umba for whose education you provide IN the biil'
| The last is right go for share to tins DISTRICT ou',
at the same tune 20 also for share 10 every ook IN
this continent where an American heart beats, OF
an American citizen needs assistance fnr improving
himsefand family by teaching, whether moral, literary,
| or religious.
The people in the Territories need this add II be
given 10 any under this bil-more than those IN
h1btng The old States, this District In these, more
wealth exists, and public institutions and facilities ior
instruction are more matured and accessible to all.
Mr.. w. proceeded with very powerful argument
for which we have no room.
The amendment was lost-yeas Il, nays26
The hour of IL having arrived, Mr. McRoberts yield
ed the floor for the purpose of proceeding TO the con-
sderaon of the special order-the veto message OF the
President
Mr.. Benton then suggested that the bill now before
the Senate be passed informally for the purpose OF pro-
ceedng the consideration Of the special order oil tue
day.
The Chair having propounded the question: an
nounced that it carried in the affirmative
! The Wing Senators having voted IN the negative
Mr. Huntington called for division.
Mr.. Benton asked if the message of the President
was not by of the Senate yesterday, made the
special order at II o'clock to-day, and if did moi come
| up as n matter OF course:
The Chair answered in the affirmative.
Mr. Benton. Then move 10 proceed 10 the order
| Of the day.
Mr. Mangum said it was necessary TO dispose of the
special ORDER the hour having arrived for taking It up
He therefore moved that the Senate should proceed TO
the consideration Of the message of the President
/ which was agreed to.
Mr. Mangum then moved to postpone lis further con-
II sideration until 10 .morrow, at twelve o'clock
Mr. Benton called for the yeas and nays, which were
ordered.
Mr. Benton said he conceived the Constitution was
impera on this point He read from 1t the clause
setting forth the proceedings which shall take place in
the event ola bill being returned TO the House IN winch
il originated, without his signature There - clearly
an IMPERATIVE injunction that when the bill shall have
been returned with the Presidents objections, those OBJ
iec,ions shall be entered the Journal and the House
shall then proceed TO reconsider the bill. No Ian
guage can be palmer. As soon es the entry on The
Journal can be made, the reconsideration is TO be pro-
ceeded with Yesterday, It was agreed oy the vote OF
the Senate that the reconsideration should proceed al
- o'clock this morning-time being allowed 10 make
the entry the journal. The entry has been made
it not proper that any thing should intervene be-
tween that entry and the reconslde ration he, Mr.
Benton, 0ad lett no Iillie surprise II
ton being taken up this morning, under The circum.
stances Immediately after the morning business; and
during broken hour II was proper that the business
of the morning hour should 60 on the Journal but 1t was
not proper that any of The general orders OF the day
should precede the special order of reconsideration OF
this BILL returned with objections by the President OF
the IT, S II could have entered into his magma
ton that could he the design to postpone the econsi
Iteration indefinitely. Yet it was PLAIN that mig be
done nv the course pursued by The ma ory here
There is an obvious violation Of the order made yeser
| day, and then argued to be the only constitutional
course Now, he had right to insist on the same con-
sti,utiona principle oday, that the gentleman opposite
argued from Yesterday. There is nothing shown that
can authorize the departure proposed from the consu
tiona course laid down clearly. The words Of the
Constitution this point express and decisive they
are that the reconsideration shall proceed when The OBJ
ections are entered the journal The entry now
complete The next step then i'll order is the rscons-
dcraton: nothing else be IN order. Ii not LETT to
the decision of yeas and nays for they to the
Constitution itself. That instrument is paramount,
and it is in this particular imperative. The Senate can
not into other business without total disregard OF
the Constitution.
Mr. Clay OF Kentucky said that personally he had
no desire postpone this question, being at any mo-
ncnt ready present his views II, but at the sug
gestion of those around him, who were DESTROYS OF
further postpone nj, he had acquiesced AS 10 The
power 10 postpone, lie considered there could be no
doubt Of 1t.
The question was then taken the postPonement,
and carried in the airmatve-nyes2 80 noes 81 as FOL
lows:
YeG.-Messrs. Archer, Barrow Bates Bayard, Berren,
choatc Kentucky, Clayton, Dixon, Evans Graham
henderson, iiuntincon Kerr Mansrm Merek. Miller, More
head Phelps, Porter Penis, Preston, Rvr Simmons, Smith
Indiana Southland Talimadse, White, and Wocdbridce-2
Say,-Ncssrs. Allen Benton Buchanan, Calhoun, Clay Of
alabama, cuhhe Fulton, King, Linn MeRoherts, Mouton
Nicholson Sewer, Surgeon Tappan, Walker Williams
| Woodbury. Wright, and Young-2l.
TIE HOUSE
4 After seve raj unmporant resolutions,
MIR. Profit Of Indiana said he wished TO make prl-
yleged question, and moved TO amend the journal
The Chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means
had on yesterday moved rerbal report inimca to pre-
sent action the appropriation asked for by the Sc
cretary of War to carry into effect the treaty made with
the Miami Indians of Indiana treaty of ncaculable
Importance TO the State Of Indiana. The Chairman
had, as he (Mr. Proip thought, departed from the
usual course in no, making written report on mat
of such great interest The Chairman stated that
the Committee of Ways and Means had decided tina,