Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1841-07-12

rs could remember,) in the ardor OF debate, that
he kaeW II could not go beyond Congress
Mr. Clay rose to inquire the grounds upon
which the Senator'S conviction was bnsed Mr.
Chonte replied that he could not go into detail
without breach of parliamentary aecorum. lie
was sure the Senator did not wish TO eInbnrrass
him.
There the matter dropped for the time, md I'M
I'll Mr.. Archer said that he wondered that the
Senntor from Kentucky should have sough, to in
fringe parliamentary etiquette, and to bring before
the Senate the opinion of the Executive, when
that Senator was the very last man whose inind
or whose actions, rs legislator, the opinion OF
any Chief Magistrate would influence.
Mr.. Clay sud he had no intention to infringe
the rules Of parliamentary propreiy. The SEN
ntor from Massachusetts might have arrived at
The knowledge he spoke Of, by polling the House
or the Senate. He only wished him to state more
distinctly how he knew that the bill would not
become n law.
Mr.. Choate said that he did not intend to con.
vey the idea that he spoke by authority nj MI - or
that lis means OF knowledge were grenirr thun
those of other members of Congress. lie had
Ind no communication with the President upon
this subject, nor amy one who vas authorised to
state his sentiments in regard To it,
Mr.. Clay then snid he wished to ask the Sem
tor one queStion.-liad he not said he knc,c that
the hill could not pass?
Mr. Choate said the Senator must take his nh
swer as lie gave il and MIR. Archer then RESUME
ed his arguments. MIR. Clay seemed excited, as he
has frequently appeared since The aspect nf nj
fairs has become so dubious and embarrassing in
respect To this question OF n national bank. Mr.
Choatc looked rs il hs were surprised, MS others
were that the Senator from Kenurky should
cyince desire TO catechse him so rIuseIy.
This morning Mr.. Clay said, that his attention
had been called today to n piper which he seldom
saw, meaning the Globr hut whose lnbilunl
nsre presentations he had AT times had occasion
TO notice, and he had observed TINT false inn
preston had been conveyed in respect tow Int took
place yesterday between his friend from Mas.n-
chusets and Himself lie found that very gra-
phc description had been given not only Of his
(Mt. C'sl words but of his looks and actions aud
the idea was attempted to he conveyed, that he
had endeavorcd to place The Senator in the ntti-
tudc of one who had STAGED what was not true.
Nothing had been farther from his Intention. He
he'll in the highest respect the character ahd dis
tinguished standing of his friend from Matsachu-
SETS and certainly the kind feelings which that
Senator had uniformly manifested toward himself,
had produced IN his mind anything but desire
to iniure that dcservedly high reputation. He re.
GREETED that my Thing had taken place to give oc
cason 10 such utterly erroneous suspicuns-and
he hoped that nothing would again occur dis
iurb the harmony and dignity of their dclibera-
lions. As far he himself was concerned, lie
would cndcavor to avoid giving any cause Tor TN
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| This matter having been thus disposed Of an
other somewhat similar in its character, between
| Me. srs Rives and Archer of Va, was mutually
explained and settled
The consideration ofthe Bank bill was then
suned, ard Mr. Dnyard made an able speech in ia
vOr OF compromise and concession. lie said that
all the objects Of Bank, such as the power of den
ling in exchange, foreign coin and bullon--tnkiug
aud holding lands us security y C., with the SIN
gle exception OF the right 10 discount paper, would
he gained 10y the pnssage fine amendment. The
| power of Congress WIS sufficiently asserted, by
| giving 10 the Bank the power to sue and he sued
! IN the Unicd States and the State courts, and TO
establish offices of deposite in the several States.
Ii was of no consequence what the amount Of the
| power was, as far as that argument WINS concern
ed. If his friend from Virginia was satisfied will,
the amendment, he himself certainly was in this
,icuhr. Blu, he would prefer more specific
clause, and would like to give the Bank the pow err
of locating its branches in the different States, un-
less, within given time they should express their
dissent and he moved an anne ndmeni embracing
this feature, anl specifying the powers of the bran
ches prior 10 line n'ed assent ofthe States.
| MIR Phelps, Of W.. said 10 should be satisfied
| with the new amendment if it should ritc, the
views Of the Senator from Va. For himself he
had not the least do ubt Of the existence OF brancl
| ing power in Congress. But he did not consd-
er it The duty Of the National Legislature ALWAYS
10 exercise the extreme OF its powers-and he did
not iclieVe tlnt Inc neglect TO exercise II would
imply its abandonment. He was sirongl, in favor
of The amendment as measure of expedency.
The necessity of compromise had been con-
stnntly apparent in our Government SINCE the first
foundation. 1t must lie ever necessary in every
legislative body, while the minds of men coninu :
ell TO differ. No party could ever remnin long in
powcr--us none ever had - without the frequent
exercise ofthis conciiatory principle.
MIR Huntington, of Conn, said he was in favor
OF every proper degree Of concession-but lie
could not think it right to surrender power whose
existence in Congress had hcen solenienly determ-
med 10y the highest Judicial tribunal OF the land
tribunal esubisled for the very purpose Offset
ling The construction of the Constitution. Ifthis
question was not settled where could one be
found thar was so !? He thought they had no
right 10 give it up md whatever might be said of
the theory, it would be, practically, surrendered
Tor ever, it they should row refuse To exercise il.
lie could not ngree That such comp cmse was
expedent They had no concern with the opin-
ions held in other departments pfihe government
AMI IA to the hostility of the people TO this power
OF branching, he agreed with the distinguished
Senator from KY, that far ms such n feeling
existed, il had never been bnsel upon the ground
OF its unconstitutonalitv-b altogether upon
considerations of expediency
The Senate then went into executive session
upon some very voluminous messages from the
President.
The House had up the distribution bill.