The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-09-11

A. ArKEON cOutfDucu anu 1870 :.
Mr.. M t.,,~ing with the Senates amendment
.;Iia ant the item for a mission TO NAPLES, 100 80
$3.50 s,he l.ct that the Neapolitan ooNetnn'en' 80
M charge here and taking the general g:s;an. INV
we ought to retain no permanent iofelsn
where. /, !. ~. Mex rox 10 the
New York Democrats, not TO vote an r spp ih-aon
the eject OF which was to supefseoe TO - ras.rrsd
-. .hon no charge was brought Mf, ~ rs'eita
49, 4. ~, MIR Throop had been honoieu WIN
-; WESTON and permitted 10 retain TWO years, al
-, !, was publicly objected TO hum lhat ne mao, ~
n,,er negligence when an officer OF inc ioS
- Nssv Yeyk permit ed, if not winked a. me a@'ai
~ ~ Mr. Swanwout which could not have oc-
enrred had Throop done his duty instead o. reai
inc those diplomatic honors abroad, ne shoulu ha'e
hem here demanding investigation INTO inc cn.s
ges against him, and Purging his character rom O'l
Nj McKEON inquired whether the removal OF
Mr. Throop put by the Administration on ina
ground -. Aam;nis
traton he spoke OF what he knew at least so lar as
The evidence presented TO his notice went II vas 81
r. supoou of the Truth Of the charge ne geh'ie
man from North Carolina Mr. Stanly) hAd more man
once referred TO the case and dema naeu az
ton of IT, - .;..;or
As torthe expediency OF continuing inc mission
Mr. C. went into general argnmeh " ~ ~
ferring 10 what he had before said referring 70 ~.
Imos ;ntolarabe burdens which our commerce WIN
N,nea was now subjected, and TO the probability
some time since, that commercial treaty ~ouio pe
effected The Neapolitan Minister, under whom .nls
arrangement seemed almost completed, had isien 'n'o
d,sgrare with his sovereign and been removed from Oh
flee which suspended the negotiation but ne hah r.
Gently been restored and the last adsces hed ont the
prospect Of renewal Of them, with fair hopes OF
successful issue.
The most un.uii able 10 break up the mission
MIR. STEENROD pressed foi the question, ex-
messing some desire TO speak upon IT but being Will
ling to waive the floor if the question could De mad
A.. Hi I--sa g he nfl -
Mr. WISE addressed the committee, observing that
he should not do had he not feared that amidst me
excitement occasioned by the reception OF the 'e'o
Message the remarks Of the gentleman from Massa-
ohusets Mr. Gushing had mol been heafu OF as'enu
ed 10.
Mr. w. took substantially the same ground thA'
Mr. Gushing had going more fully INTO me ae,as a.
TO the extent and nature OF our commerce WIN VA
pies the value and importance OF commercial treaty
To the interests Of every part Of the Union, and The
necessity, in the present aspect OF our ahairs OF nav
ing the eye of diplomatic agent kept on Inc move
ments of European powers &c; W e had a minister
at the Sublime Porte although the Sedan Kept none
in this country The same might be said OF several
of the South American Republics We were now
the third Commercial Power in the world, and our
navigating interest ought to be cherished and fostered
with the utmost sociiude. We ought rather 10 en-
large and place upon grand scale our ioIeigh COM
mercia agencies throughout the world
MIR ADAMS cotsplimented Mr. Wise on the zeal
he had manifested particularly TO the extension OF
Z
few words 10 add to what had been well said by
the gentleman from Virginia, He would add that this
question Of the continuance of mission to the court
of the Two Siciies had been settled once already, al
ter pretty long debate, motion had been maue py
a gentleman from Pennsylvania MIR. lngersoll) 10
strike the items of appropriation both Tor Naples
and for Sardinia but II was rejected and In that state
the bill had gone TO the Senate. The bill now came
back with of these two items stricken out and the
other retained No reason given for this dife-
renee and would the House after 1t had deliberately
refused striking out both missions now consent To
abolish OF them simply because the Senate had
stricken It out of the appropriation bill Mr.. "A. re-
minded the Committee that, when the question had
been up before he had advocated both appropriations,
the general principle that when an appropriation
for foreign mission was recommended by the Execu.
tive Department, which was the Department charged
with the management of our negotiations with foieign
powers il was of course the duty of the House TO
make the necessary appropriations unless there existed
the strongest reasons to the contrary. Mr.. A. said
he knew Of no u the j. s 20
the eapoitan which would not equally apply to the
Sandman mission. Indeed, the Chairman of the
Committee on Foreign Reiations MIR. CushiDg) had
stated reasons show why the former mission was
even more important and necessary than the latter =
Negotiations were now IN progress, and with happy
prospects for commercial treaty.
Mi A said he could not rpiess the qualification
with which he had heard the gentleman frory Virginia
Mr.. Wlse) speak so warmly in favor OF the extern
sion OF our commercial diplomatic intercourse with
foreign nations all the world. Mr.. A. had no
doubt that our commercial intercourse with Naples
might be doubled and rebIed by commercial treaty
Such treaty was now, 1t seemed, about to be made
WINS feri, and such being the case, 1t obvi
ously most Improper time 10 save the 81 800 OUTFIT
and let our commerce with Naples 90 to the dogs
As TO the objection drawn from the question Of ETH
quette, that Naples had representative with Us, and
ergo should send there, Mr.. A. agreed en-
trely with what bad been said by the honorable chair
man, (Mr CusHING) We held no diplomatic inter
Pnwers for he aka af oil
When we had any business with them, sent mi
mister OF peace with view 10 own interests
md 10 reconcile them far practicable, with those
OF the foreign Power. That the only legitimate
object in establishing any foreign diplomatic mission.
II Naples had any business TO transact with this Gov
ernm ent In which her interests were involved he
would warrant that we should have Neapolltan mi
mister here, and that in shor, time. But why should
we desire to have representative Of Naples here =!
So long as we could have at Naples it all our
advantage required and in such state of things,
the advantage wholly side; fer assuredly,
If they sent minister here, it would be promote
their interests, not ours; so that long they
willing 10 receive minister from us, and tea, him
respectful manner, It would be absurd and extrava-
giant in take the stand and insist that they must
first send one 10 this Government We had here no
magnificent court for the reception of such dgnta RES
we had jus, enough oft to allow them to exhibit their
costly uniforms, and all that OF thing and we
did not want any more Of them IT, indeed minis
ter were refused from a disposition to insult us, or
'I'o' 'he WIN ihuiBhi'yi ihth we Hipnt
The ground of etiquette and insist reciprocity /;
but there was no such thing pretended and why take
aground so absurd
Lastly, Why do such thing just at this time, when
we had enough and God knows too much, difference
between the two Houses of Congress and the Execu-
ivc1 He would not add TO that ference, or give
the least pretxt for widening IT, If he could restore
perfect harmony between all the Departments of
Government, he would give his life 10 attain IT, He
would not add to the causes Of ds-ension; and he
hoped, therefore, the House would disagree the Sc
mates amendment, and insist the appropriation in
the bill
Mr.. lNGERSOLL said something in reply, the
frsI uarl of which wAs innnLhIe In Lie Re..arier