Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-12-20

nesaiive, without divis,oa.
SO the amendmsnt was rejected.
The que siion RECURRING on the orig NJ re solution
I a, modified 10y Mr. Fillmore at the suggestion Of NJ
Everett. the resolution was adopted.
e The nth resolution then read. and 10 as fol
'ows;
s. Rtso,rsi. That 50 much thereof q, relates, 1,
the tar'd be referred to the Committee on Manutsc
lures.
Mr ATHERrON moved TO strike out the wore
M nniAetures" ard insert "Wsys and Means
He said the chair'nan Of the Committee OF Way,
and Means intended TO reserve to that committed
, only so much Of the Message rs related to the
ce,pts and oxpe ndilutcs of Government. This also
belonged to the Committee Of Ways and Means;
but II SO much Of the tariff were referred To the
COMMITTEE on Manufactures, II would be takni y
from tho Committee o. Ways and Means their APP.
propta,e business, and countenancns the princip
Of protection to its fullest extent.
Mr. MALLORY called the yeas and nays on the
motion; which were ordered.
MIR IlLLlNGHASr said the portion OF the
Message which the gentleman from N. York (Nr
FHlmore) intended to refer to the Committee on
Manufactures belonged to them; and this would "a %.
pear u the House from animation Of that part
OF the Message. He should prefer 10 have the RS
solution modified 60 read as follows:
That 50 much theie,f as relates 10 manuf,c-
lures, and 20 determination Of duties wuh sefer
ence TO considerations ofdomes,c policy connected
with our manuiac' be referred TO the Commit
tee en- Manufactures"
Tncse were the words Of the Message itself: $50
l..
mating, by reierc-ce TO other considerations Of poll
cv connected with our manufactures" That Vas
the portinn which carried TO the Committee on Man
urtuTes the subject oil duties for revenue. but with
dissemination 'having reference to consideration.
o domestic policy connected with man ufac, "a. es 4"
So much as relaei to TINS subject lie thought nons
would dispute, ought to go to the Committee on
Manufactures. The business Of the Con1mi,tce OF
| Ways and Means did not embrace the "dlsrrn,,ns
ton" which was pointed to by the President in hi,
Message, anu winch they had snt to dispose at by
| reference 10 spmc Committee. rse subjects to bo
| referred To the COMMITTEE OF Ways nd Means v,Ie
| expressed 6y TIA rule desc.ib'ns their duty.
MIR. l. then reed the rule defining the duty of
| the Committee OF Ways anu Means, ut which the
| following IS the material extract ITO take into
| consideration all such reports OF the Treasury De
parimenI, and all such prcpositors relative TO the
| revenue, as may I've referred them by the HOUSE.
TO inquire into the state ,the public the teve
nue., and OF the expenditure aud report from time to
time their opinion thereon into the state
OF the several public Departments 5, and Particularly
| into the laws making appropriations of money ami
10 report whc hsr the moneys have been dtsburs. II
cpniormaby with such iaw; and also To re port from
| time To une sash provisions ana arrans enents ss
may be necessary to add to the economy of the de
pirtmsn,s and the Accountability Of their off ,rrs"l
tappsaTej iIom this rGle that this subject did no
belong 10 the Committee OF Ways and Means: and
there was no committee in this House TO which the
sublsct could be properly rcerrrd but the Commit
te. on Manufactures. He hoped that the scn,i-
man from New Hampshire (Mr. Atherton) would
MT insist taking the business Tor which alone hs
Committee ON Manufactures was originally created
and refer II to Committee whose duty II was not
The Committee on Mhnuactures was appointed
Tor the purpose of ascerta,nlrg, whci II was decided
that revenue was wanting, how It might be most
conveniently least inJuriOusiy. and most prof,ahiy
raised, To tie 'nuaciurlns Interests uf the coun
Try. de hoped the subject would not oe Withdrawn
from that committee, TO Shich was proposed To- be
referred IN the original resolution.
MIR WISE was very s,c mat the gentleman from
Nes Hampshire, (Mr Atheuonl had made his
motion II nc mad not, he (Mr W y shoulJ have
moved II. Ii had always been the test Question
the question OF retererce-belwecn the tariff ,nd
anti-Is'if prlies Tho>e, heretofore in the history
of the tariff question, who had gone Tor protection
per So, hal gone for the reference TO the COMMITTEE.
on Nrnu;5 o;uTes, and those who had gone fp-
tariff loo revenue TO supply the wants OF the Trea.
sIry, had voted a reference 10 the Committee OF
Ways and Means.
The gentleman from Rhode Island, (Mr Trlinc.
haSt) had SAID there was portion of this Message
which recomnt ndCG protSc ION to manuiactuTes-a
u'if OF duties for proeciion-and had underta ken
10 read This Message IN such manner rs TO lead TO
such an inference.
Mr. TiLLiNGHAST requested the gentleman
from Virginia TO allow him to explain; which re.
quest having been complied with by MIR Wise Mr
L. sad he hi1 read that part Of the message W ch
connected the raising OF duties with the intcr,s' of
he manufacturer, and another part which showed
that the President Intended that the amount OF duty
should be governed by the Compromise act and not
exceed 20 per cent and, IN collecting that, lie had
SAID the Message pointed out the connection with
the policy OF domestic manufactures.
M WISE nOI understood the gentleman rs h. !
had done before. lie (Mr WI did not use the |
words but the IDEAS OF the gentleman when he SAID
that the gentleman had alleged that the President |
hau recommended protection. There was nothing
IN the Message which suggested any such thing
lie then quoted various passages from the Message
showing, as he conlendec, TINT protection was not
IN endej, but that reference was had to fiscal Oh
Jects-to Treasury objects alone-to revenue. The !
Message recommended tariff of duties for revenue:
u admitted right Of discriminating for the Office.
OF revenue; and within the line Of revenue eentl,-
men might ascrbe TO themselves the right of protec-
ton ii they pleased. Not inch beyond a tariff
Of revenue did 90. Ii might I've said that the part
which admitted the night OF dScrmnat lion Gus M 10
90 TO the Committee on Manufactures; but thsy
could not separate the two paris, and 10 ought to be
referred to tine Committee OF Ways and Means, 10 |
the hrst place, because the Tariff reconne ndeI as
q lariff Of revenue, and IN tho next place because
protection was merely incident The question was, |
whether the principal should govern the reference
or mere accident. The gentleman proposed TO |
make the incident govern the principal, and carry
this who:c subject to the Committee on Manufac. |
lures. to raise taTh for The protection Of Manu-
fixtures
Mr FOSTER "a report Of whose remarks will !
appear here,itet) advocated the reference to the
Committee Of Wiys end Means.
MIR RHErI should merely make a few obser. |
ystous.
The SPEAKER said that the gentleman from
Georgia, (Mr FJster,) being a new member, hid |
been induged III debate not IN order, aud suggest |
ed that The debate Ue confined to the strict question
Of reference.
MIR RHErT said his object was TO call The al,
tsnon Of the House to the character OF the PROMO.
siiion before hem. III did not understand the
Message rs recommending protection itself, or a
tariff with view to protection, but distinctly Tor
revenue. tie must confess that the Message did
also intimate that discrimination might be so made
as 10 protect manufactures. When a duty wa IS made
for the purpose Of revenue, could II induce protsc
uon3 The only way IN which the dome Stc pro.
Queer could be bencfued must he by having his
manufactures consumed instead of the foreign ma IN.
uiactures which would come in This was the onIv
way in which he could he benefited, and, IN this
point Of view, how vas il possible 10 combine
duty for revenue and protection Precisely where
one interest commenced the other ended II the two
objects were incompatible and inconsistent with
eacn oiher as he contended. what did they propose
by the imposition Of dutieS7 Unless duties wers
laid for the protection Of tho manufacturer and for
the destruction OF commereo-unless that was the
mad design Of the House, duties must be intended
Tor revenue; and why should the question OF laying
duties for revenue be referred to tie Committee on
manufactured The time had now come when this
question must be seltled nice years il had been
sgittted on this floor. Whils they were about le.
gsiuiog the arst STEP he urged hom to TO care.
FOL IN commit the subject 10 the COMMITTEES To which
II belonged. II the House intended a duty Tor revs.
nue., or incidentally for protection, The subject should
! 60 TO the Committee OF Ways and Means II the
/ principal benefit was OF protection, the subject
| should 90 10 the Committee on Manufactures.
J Mr. FILLMORE said the first objection that had
been m de 10 the reference Of this part Of tho Mes
sage 10 the Comntee on Manufactures was. that
| this Committee had no specific duties assigned TO
/ n n Fue 10 nor f,ttfo