Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1841-10-18
BURNING OF THE CAROLINE.

lrinl of Mcleod. 1t will be observed that both
witnesses assert that Mcleod was not one of the
party on that occasion.
SIR ALLAN N. McNABS TESTIMONY.
| Taken aud sworn at Kingston, in Canada, on the
18th Sept. i64l, before James T. Small and
James Harvey Price, Esqrs., commissioners
Joseph Center being present and approving for
the People, and Hiram Gardiner for the accus-
ed.l
Examination Direct. ! am a Barrisier; | re-
side at DundYin in the Gore district in the Prov
ince OF Canada, about As a,es from the town of
Niagara. | know a body Of militia was assemb.
led at Chippewa in the month ofDecember, 1887,
and January 1898 to the number Of between two
and three thousand, to rcpel an expected invasion
from rebels aud American brigands assembled on
Navy Island and the American shore
Schlosser ! was the officer in actual command
Of the forces then and there assembled Sir +.
b. Head was at Chippewa more than once during
the months named. The force assembled there
by his directions assumed the command by
mis- order, directed to me as Colonel of the 3D. re-
giment of Gore militia. The Governor General
of the two Provinces was not ut Chippewa at the
time mentioned | entrusted the command of
the expedition for the purposes aforesaid, TO Cap
tain A. Drew, Royal Navy. Seven boats were
equipped and left the Canada shore. ] do not
recolect The number OF men in each bont. Capt.
Drew held the rank of commander in her Majes-
ty's royal navy. ] ordered the expedition, and
first communicated il to Capt. Andrew Drew on
the bench where the men embarked short time
previous to their emburkaton. They embarked
at the mouth of the Chippewa river. | was there
when they embarked, and when the boats showed
off. had been there about quarter of all hour.
noticed most OF the persons going into the boats.
| stood within ten or twelve ieet of most OF the
boats as the men went on board /; and while they
wero preparing was walking about among Them
which afforded me the means of knowing who
embarked. know Alexander Mcleod late dep
uty sheriff of the Niagara district. Have known
him for about five or six yenrs. My acquantance
with him was Of professional nature. did not
meet him frequently. The nature of my inter
course with hi xvas professional. think saw
and spoke to =. McLeod two or three times
while was inS land of the forces at Chippe-
wa. do not ree&x4 ct when il was saw him Ur
the nature of his business think saw him on
the day previous to the destruction of the Caro-
| line, and in what place and on what business !
do not recollect. did not see lin when the bons
showed off to destroy the Caroline. lie was not
in my presence that evening. l think the boats
returned about two hours inter they left The Can
ada shore, do not recollect the hour. The boats
seemed to go in the direction of Navy Island
when they left. / was or the shore when the
boats returned, and was near some of the boats
when the men landed. saw the faces Of sever.
| al of the men who landed perhaps half of the
whole. ! did not see Alexander Mcleod. | dc
not know where he was He not IN my pres
ence. | saw the Caroline on fire going down the
river, after the boats had lett the Canada shore.
heard Two three shos in the direction of Schlos
ser. think made a return to the Lieut. Gov
ernor OF U. e. OF the officers and who de-
stroyed the Caroline ! am sure the name of AL
exander Mcleod was not among them, because
he wns not one of the PARTY, Therefore his name
could not have been in any return male by me-
| was not IN command when the lOrces took pos
session OF Navy Island. Capt. Drew is now a
| Woodstock, in the Brock district o this province
Cross examination have resided in The Gore
District for about l6 Years. Am a native Of Can
ada, aud have always resided there. ! was com
mandng officer Of The whole force of Chippewa.
| naval and military. Was not attached to any yes
sell | saw Alex. Mcleod once during the week
preceding the destruction of the Caroline. l do
not recoect the particular day, the hour Of the
day or tile place at Chippewa, but think il was
the day before the destruction. nave no recol-
lection Of conversing with him, of hearing him
converse, or of speaking to him on the destruc-
ton of tie Caroline. do not recoect, at any
time, McIeot's informing me that he had been at
Buffalo and seen the Caroline; that she was pre-.
pairing to come to Navy island nor did he de-
scribe TO me her size, her equipments or charac-
ter; nor do recolect his telling me any thing =
bout her. But do recoect that The Information
which induced me to order the destruction of the
Caroline was not received from Alex. Mcleod. -
did not, at any time, before or after the burning
OF the Caroline during The day night, 60 with
Mcleod in large boat or small boat, round Navy
Island. After heard that she was coming down
to assst the rebels and after the officers appointed
by me TO watch her movements, had reported 10
me, made up my mind to have her Destroyed
This was on the day of her destruction. did no,
communicate my intention TO Mcleod or in his
presence nor do think that he could have known
any thing about it. did not the boat Al
Schlosser. 1t may have been reported TO me that
she had returned to the American shore hut
have no recollection Of that circumstance. Nc
Leod did not so inform me. commenced pre-
pairing for the attack Immediately after the report
was made to me of having Landed the men and
cannon at Navy Island This was on the day Of
her destruction. l was on the shore when the
boats returned, and went from thence to my own
quarters. / do not recollect being at Davs's tav-
ern on the day after the burning OF the Caroline,
nor did see or have any conversation with, AL
ex Nc Leod, on the day, or any other day, after
tile burning of the Caroline, the subject of the
destruction Of that boat was not present OF the
burning Of the Caroline ut Schosser. ordered
the expedition for that purpose. was present ut
the embarkaton OF the expedition from Chppe-
wa, and saw it embark. There were on the shore,
nj or NEAR The place where the enbnrkalon took
place, about from 60 10 100 men. ] think about
40 persons embarked in The expedition. think
! ] knew them ALL The boats used are commonly
4 named ships cutters, as | understand. think
4 there were eight men in each boat. The
boats were nearly Of the same size and descrp-
ton. They were seven in number; but ms had
not the personal direction of the boats, cannot
| speak positively. think knew all who embar-
| ked on the expedition. saw the faces OF most
I of them, and recognized those saw. | have no
knowledge that there was any person OF the name
of Mcleod in the expedition Ii there had been
n person OF that name think shonll have known
it, There was no whagf or pier where the expe-
dition embarked The boats IN which the expe
diton embarked, all lay at the same landing place,
near each other, and started about the same time
The boats did not all return at the same time-
| Five arrived about the same tme-two at differ
enl time, but do not recollect whether teore or
after the others. They dsembarkei nearly at The
same place they started from. | cannot say that
/ saw and recognized all the persons tina, enhar-
/ ked. do not think thai nnV of them balonoed IN