The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-10-14

about the end Of January or the beginning " oos
aIy 10 he best Of my recollection was about MD
nj, ht when the force disembarked II was not moon
liz hi night. think il was cloudy DO not te'onse.
whether the moon was up or not. The force, amer
~ il return went their respective quarters. 10 ho
know v neither they were together al sunrise % NJ
They were auariered in different houses IN anu about
Chippewa. have seen the men engaged IN the 81
pedilion since, Con parade) some oil them armed anu
equipped militia men, cannot give their names OF
the period when ! saw them, Some OF them were
subseq ueniy ordered on board of schooners lying I'D
The river cannot say that have seen the same DO
DIV OF men together armed and equipped as they Were
on that expedition. The expedition embarked ahout
10 o'clock, r. M There were some OF The afsailIng
arty wounded in the atiack-Lieut Mccormick Sc
yerely There was no one killed, reported TO me
as commanding officer. have reason 10 believe ihere
was no one on board the Caroline when she was
cut loose and the falls have no knowledge
of any thing having been taken from the Caroline.
heard she was coming down few days before her ar
rival.
This information WINS derived from some gentlemen
in Buffalo or Black Rock. From the manner in
which that information was given TO me, do not ee
al liberty give their names. did not obtain the IN
o,mation from Alexander Mcleod. have seen a
person by the name of Sylvanus S. Rgby. first saw
him at Chippewa. He was not engaged IN her Ma
es,y's service in December 1897, to my knowledge
/ cannot recoleci the exact time when saw him hrst
Il was during the time was in command there 10
the best Of my recollection neither saw or knew INN
previously To the destruction OF the Caroline have
no knowledge Of his being on board OF the Caroline
when she attacked did he ever inform me that
he was. do not know where Righy now Is. do
not recoect seeing him before the at ack on the Ca
roline nor do | know where he is | do not know
that Mcleod went To Buffalo in the month OF Decem
ber 1887 nor do recollect hearing him say that he
did So To ascertain whether any steamboat was TO be
taken down from thence Schlosser Navy Island, or
near there, for any other purpose. have no reco-
lection Of Mcleod telling me, or any person IN my
presence, the day night before the Caroline was de-
stroyed or at any other time before, that she was
coming down from Buffalo to Navy Island, or any
other place in that vicinity. have knowledge of
Mcleod remaining at Chippewa, the day before the
Caroline destroyed to keep look out to see when
she came down to Navy Island or Schlosser; nor do
recollect ever having heard him say that he did so.
Seven boats were first engaged in the expedition
None started from Chippewa village All started from
the Chippewa river None got around at Buck horn
Islaad. am not that any person or persons
was were employed opilot the boats. have heard
Of person living the Niagara frontier OF the name
Of Wscoon, but do not recoect ofeser having seen
him. do not think there any one Of that name
on the expedition.
Additional cross. eraminaiion My order TO Capt.
Drew verbal as before stated-the substance OF
which was to take and destroy the Caroline, as near
as can recollect. The order was given the even
ing of the day on which she was destroyed, on the
beach, near the place where the boats put off, had
order to invade The territory of the United States
In my orders TO Captain Drew, nothing was said
such their nature, that Captain Drew might feel
himself justified in destroying he boat wherever he
might find her. do not recollect her coming down
more than ! did receive information OF her in
tended coming before she arrived The peculiar cir
cumstanee under which, received the information,
makes me feel that cannot, with any propriety, dis
close the names of those who communicated IT to me-
That information however, was not received from
Alexander Mcleod, received no information of
the State condition of the Caroline, after she ar
rived at Schlosser. | am under the impression, al
though will not be positive, that did furnish the
Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada with the
Of the officers and men who were in the expe
dition to destroy the Caroline. If did so, it must
have been written list. do not recoect whether
it accompanied with written communication or
not. Captain Usher's name could not have been in
the list he not Of the party, do not reeoect
Mcleod having informed me of the Caroline having
left Buffalo her way Navy Island did he So
licit permission 10 prepare an expedition TO destroy
her did he suggest that such expedition should
be fitted out; nor did he say any thing to me, nor
to him. the subject Of such expedition, the night
before the Caroline came down, or any other tme to
the best of my recollection