The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-09-04

successful termination of ou last war with Great B
tain and he well remembered that il WIS proposed at
once to establish five military academies. They be-
gun TO be sure with one; fom that they got to two
and at length, TO give the different portions of the
country fair play, they went on till il was proposed to
establish FIVE and a similar conflict to that which
now prevailed was witnessed then as to the proper
spots at which to place them. Them as now, in the
heat of the contest thought of stopping TO ask
whether all these schools were needed. At length
one member and asked FOR what military acade-
nv was needed He was answered, for training up
youth in military science the want Of which had been
SO severely felt He then wenton to inquire how ma
nv Young men one seminary could turn out In year.
and how many the whole five would issue upon the
comm unity2 And this was the first thing that brought
the House to their senses.
Mr. s. therefore wanted 10 see the proof the ar
mories we had could not furnish arms enough for the
defence of the frontier. Each gentleman commended
most manfuy that his own district YVES the best pos
sible spot at which to fix the new armory but MIR s.
could not admit that the Western gentlemen who
pleaded thus earnestly the proper persons to de-
eide the question Let their pleas all be first heard
and then let the rest of the House, who were not
Western men, Judge coolly between them. Some
gentlemen could remember the time wnen goods were
carried to Pittsbuig from the Atlantic cities on pack
horses. Pittsburg was then certainly in the We ;
but times had changed, and now, If seaman should
be required to fix its direction according to the com
pass he would have to answer that IL lay West by
III
burg and Beaver were now in the West, they had bet
ter first agree to fix terminus where the west
ended it seemed a sort of vanishing point It re-
coded You followed it, like Hamlets ghost Mean
WHILE instead Of any proof being produced tnat new
arsenal was needed all the proof there was looked d.
lectly the other way The report made in 1886 de-
clared that we had as many arms as could be used
and the Secretary of War stated, as consideration
against further multiplying them that improvements
in their form were continually going on. And then,
Al. Ishn had
Who had forgotten the complaints not long since
| urged against turning away the hands at HarPers
Ferry and taking bread out Of the mouths OF skfai
workmen IN. Expense S O. kseplng " many s MAXI
quantity of arms at one time, and get plentiful sup
ply then the establishments might be reduced II we
create new armory, not because we needed one
but for the sake of the West be so he was willing
listen to Western gentlemen on that subject, but he
was not willing to advance inch till the necessity
After few remarks fiom Mr. STEINRo I'D against
the amendment proposed to the Senates amendment,
Mr.ANDREWs, Of Kentucky, moved the pre-
vious question. "" E3NN a"" .+.'.
And there was a second.
And the main question was ordered to be taken.
Mr.. SUMMERS asked the yeas and nays on the
/ main question. w.. =
| And on the question whether the yeas and nays
| should be taken quorum voted. IA
! Mr. ANDREWS, of Kentucky, moved that the
House adjourn which motion was rejected
Mr.. ANDREWS then moved to lay the motion to
recede on the table. q A4ss.g ahs .'. %, j..
would carry the bill on the table also. ,...
| Andthe question being put, it was decided in the
negative. . ~. 4 N x .q.a g325 -
| So the motion to lay on thetable was rejected.
And the question recuningon the motion of Mr.
FILLMORE that the House lecede from its disas
| ment to the amendment Of the Senate ,.s,sE..:5
The yeas and nays were ordered; and being taken,
resulted as follows: 4 3,. 4, l..r ag.. ~
| YEAS--Messrs Adams, Alien, Sherlock J. An
drews, Arnold, Anterior, BAKER, Banks, Barton,
Briggs, Brockway, Aaron v. Brown, Charles Brown,
William o. Butler, Calhoun, William B. Campbell
Thomas J Campbell, Caruihers John 9. Clark, Sta
Ley N. Clarke, Coyep, Crapston, Gross, Gushing
Eastman, John G. Edwards Everett, Ferris. Fillmore,
Torrance, A.. Lawrence Foster Gerry, Patrick g.
Goode, Green Greig, Hasersham, Harris, John Has
| tings, Henry, Holmes, Hqkins, Houston, Howard,
Cave Johnson, Isaac D. joins, John P. Kennedy,
Liule6eld Abraham McclelLn, Robert Mcclellan
Mallory, Marchand, Alfred Marshall, Samson Ma
| son, Mathiot, Mathews, Mattdks, Maynard Medill,
Moore, Morrow, Newhard Osborne, Parmenter,
Payne, Pearce, Pendeton, Plumer, Pope, Profit,
| B enjamin Randall, Randolph Reynolds, Ridgway,
Rodney, Russell, Saltonstall, Sanford, Simonon,
Ssde, Smith, sprigg, steenlod s.okely, s,raiton,
Tilinghast Toland Tripett, TrumbuL Turney,
| w Wallace, Ward, Westbrook, Thomas w : Williams,
Winthrop, Wise, Wood. Augustus Young, John
Young-l20. e2} ~ .-t11- W."
i !NAYs-Messrs. Landau w. Andrews, Arlington,
Bronson, William Butler, Patrick G. Caldwell Chap
man, Clinton, Coles, Cravens Garrett Davif Deberry,
Egbert, John II. Floyd, Charles A. FloyS Gamble,
| Goggin, William Q. Goode, Graham, Hall, Hays,
Houck, Hubbard, Lewis Mckay, John Thompson
Alexander Randall, Rayner, Rencher, Riggs, Rogers,
Sergeant, Shaw, Shepperd Snyder, Stany, Alexander
II. H. Stuart Sumter, Taliaferro, John Thompson,
Underwood, Warren, Washington, JOSEPH L. White,
| Lewis Williams-44. oa-t la.a .-
SO the House receded from its disagreement to the
amendment of the Senate ,...Mt
| And the question recurring on concurng in the
amendment Of the Senate, (Which amendment was
now open TO amendment ys2 g.. ."'
| Mr. SUMMERS moved TO amend the amendment
of the Senate by striking out all after the word Select
| ing" and insert:
adjustment Of National Armory, sum exceed
ing 5 000 and the President of the MED States is
hereby authorized TO such selection to be made
and to communicate all the proceedings which may be
had herein TO the Congress of the United States to be
subject to its approval" . s-.,,.
| In submitting this motion, Mr. s. said it had been
bis intention to offer few remarks, but 30 much time
had already been consumed in discussion, that he was
unwilling further to proract it. He would therefore
/ waive his right.
Mr.YoRKE moved the previous question, but with
| drew the motion. III gs9@sag ala'# 4
Mr. KING moved to amend the amendment of Mr.
SUMMERS SO as provide for the selection of site
| n the Western States and one site in TIE Southern
| States. ,4s -E.a HaHr y E5za fs. 6
| Which motion was rejected. sf.9 esl
| Mr. THOMPSON, of Indiana, then offered the
amendment indicated by him in former part of the
day, but withdrew it. hE Z
And the question recurring on the amendment of
| Mr. SUMMERS .. . r.... .....,
Mr.. WISE moved the previous question.
| And there was second. 49,
And the main question (beng the amendment of
j Mr.. SuMMERs) was ordered to he taken ..... .a
Mr.. w. W. IRWIN asked the yeas and nays on
the main question, which were ordered and, being
| taken. were faIlsws:
| YEAS-Messrs. Adams, Allen, L. w. Andrews,
Arnold, Arlington, Baker, Banks, Barton, Blair,
Boardman Borden, Boyd, Briggs, Broadway, A. ".
| WIN B. Campbell, T. J. Campbell, Cauthers, John
| c. Clark, s. N Clarke Clinton Coles, Cowen, Grams