The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1841-07-17

Of March last out Of any Of the new appropriations
Passed at the last session Of Congress Also that he
state the amount of advances made out of the Treasu
~ since he 81 day Of March last, whether with Or
without such authority
Mr. EVANS offered the following amendment
"And If advances have been made since The Sd of
March last without authority from the President that
he inform the Senate what authority, or rule or
practice Of the Department, such advances have been
made"
The resolution and amendment then adopted
The resolution offered some days tince, calling
the President, for the for the removal of GER
tain publ officers, taken up, and after brief
conversation, was again LAID on the table.
Mr.. ALLEN 10 submit inquiry TO the
| chairman OF the Committee on Foreign Relations; he
had Understood that the chairman of that committee
was absent but he deemed an immediate answer Inn
poHant IL was very wrll known that the President
OF the United States had communicated certain mat.
ters To the Senate IN relation 10 the affair of the Caro-
line and Alexander Mcleod. Tha, part of the Pre-.
sidens message referred to the Committee Fo-
reign Relations, and he wished To ask whether II
me intention OF the committee 10 report any thing on
the subject.
! Mr.. TALLMADGE was member Of that com
miliee and he not able say that there had been
any determination on the subject, and far he
concerned, he was not prepared 10 give any answer
until the chairman returned, who had this matter
more especially in charge
| Mr. CLAY, of Ky, sald there seemed to be moth
| tle senate, anu ne would appeal 10 them To
take up the Loan Bill by general consent. lie was
sure that there could be disposition embarrass
the Government by the want of means TO carry its
operations, and maintain its credit, and without some
speedy succor IT was not able meet its promises
and pay its debts On the 18th instant there was
less than million of dollars in the Treasury
not enough to carry the wants Of Govern
ment for fortnight. He referred to honorable
gentlemen The course they had usually taken on
! Treasury Note Bills; no opposition was made to
them. and he ask eu HheraIlty and caudOr.
whether IL would not be better for them To their
opposition. for some other measure, and give them
speedily the means necessary for carrying the ope-
| rations of Government.
Nh. CALHOUN spoke for no one hut himself and
he iet that no bill that would be introduced this
sion would be more important than the Loan Bill
lie regarded this as the commencement of perna
nen debt; and if il came up he should feel bound to
resist as firmly and ob,tinaely any bill to be pre-
scented during this important session II trusted that
the Senator would not insist IN calling il up but lei
them 90 and finish one thing at once and he would
ask them, why would they not let them complete their
amendments, and then fix Monday, or any other day
To take up the bill
Mr.. CLAY. For no other reason than that the
wheels OF Government will stop. | tell you we must
pass the bill, and pass 1t this week.
Mr.. WRIGHT was willing to extend 10 the ma
Iorty the same aid had been gwen by them Il
his friends when in power, for supplying the wants
Of Government, by the Treasury Note bills. But
he contcnded that this bill was not OF the same char
actef-not TO supply the temporary wants of Go,eln
ment but to furnish means which would render II
possible dispose Of entire branch of the pub
lie revenue. la that sense, and that alone, he Should
oppose the bill 1t would be desirable to get through
with the bill under consideration before another was
taken up, which it appeared to him might be done
and the Loan bill postponed three or four days, con
sdering the amount stated by the Senator to be IN
the Treasury, and the accrulng revenue.
MIR CLAY said the spirit OF the Senator was ere
dtabe him, and similar 70 hat by which he was usual
~ actuateI. But he was incorrect in his assertion
and the design of this bill to provide for til,
distribution OF the proceeds OF the lands II the ant
bill passed would no, take effect TIL next year ant
with the money derived from the lands, this bill was
still necessary. 1t the duty bill which Senators
could oppose on this ground, and not the loan bill
He referred To the length Of time consumed several
ly in the passage OF the various Treasury note bills
from S3S to ls4 none of which exceeded one day al
ter their report from the committee to the Senate and
I most of which were passed the same day he etec
of this bill was precisely the same to supply the wants
of the Treasury, and he had thought that Senators
would waive any obi c;lons To this BILL and reserve
them for the duty land bills.
Mr.. CT LHDUN said this was different from the
Treasury note bills they beng merely for the tempo
| rary supply Of Government and commended that &C
cordng to the Stcreiarys report the deficit but two
millions. Gentlemen had promised retrenchment and
economy, and were now for creating permanent ma
tional debt
MIR HUNTINGTON said the position of the Sc
nator from South Carolina, was most extraordinary.
he chairman Of the Committee on Finance had told
them that from information received at the Treasury,
they hal mol more than tortnlghts funds, and YET
the gentleman opposed the consideration of IT,. Why
was Was not the Senator prepared to discuss II,
from want Of information on 1t No; he was able at
all times TO express his opinion on these subjects and
give the reasons
Mr. CALHOUN explained that he had opposed
lis being taken up, under the expectation OF Senators
that it would take but day for its consideration. 1t
was essential part Of the entire system which the
gentleman contemplated and would require thorough
1 con, Iteration
Mr. HUNTING: ON briefly continued his re-
marks in iavo, of taking up the Loan bill, and Mr.
ALLEN opposed H.
The question of order was then raised, as TO what
motion was before the Senate, and
Mr.. CLAY moved to postpone the preceding orders
and take up the Loan bill and on tins called the
yeas and NAYS,
MI KING would yield 10 the suggestion Of the ho-
norahle Senator and take up the hill, with the under
standin- that 1t was TO supply the immediate wants
OF the Tea,ury Ifthis Administrator intended to hor
money and tax the people to distribute the Poce' DIS
OF the lands he could tel them, IN no spirit of pro
phecy, that their days were numbered, and that the
people would not submit to IT,
Mr. CLAY acknowledged the libcrality of the Sena
tor but reminded HIM that he had yesterday gwen no
tice of this melton, and therefore they could not say
that they taken by surprise with IT.
The motion farther advocated by Messrs
CLAY, OF Ky, WALKER and SEWER, and OPP
posed by Messrs CALHOUN, BEN ION, AL
LEN and WOODBURY..
MIR. CLAY then withdrew the call for the yeas and
nays and without division the motion was carried.
LOAN BILL.
The bill authorizing loan oftwelve millions of dol
lars then read
Mr. CLAY in a concise and comprehensive speech,
stated the condition of The Treasury, and the necessi
" of this loan mmcd aely. He first called the atten-
ton of the Senate the of the Secretary of
the Treasury In this the amount of appropriations
for the current year were estimated at S2I 10000.
There yrie additional appropriations required IN the