Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1841-11-15
MONTPELIER, NOVEMBER IS, 1911.


by Messrs Cobb, Villas, Adams Of S. H., and Ba-
ker, and supported by Messrs Noyes, Gchrst, Sar-
geant and Chandler of W., when Mr.. Wins NOV
ed 10 postpone the bill 10 the LIST of Jan. next
The Speaker decided this to be out of order ac-
cording to the former practice oil the House. For
the purpose of settling the rule, Mr.. Fullam took
an appeal from this decision and the decision Of
the chair was sustained, l0l 10 "a Mr. Was
then moved to postpone the bill to Friday after
noon next,-opposed by Mr.. Dewey and with
drawn. Mr.. Chandler OF w. moved to commit
the bill for an amendment requiring the officers
of the bank to give bonds lor the faithful perform
ance of their duty; agreed to. Mr.. Villas moved
to commit for an amendment making the private
property of the trustees holden Tor the security of
the depositors supported by Mr. Adams OF South
Hero, opposed by Mr. Ceayeand, and carried,
ia to 81 The bill was then rejected.
The vote Of yesterday, giving Nathaniel w.
earns and others leave TO Withdraw, was recon-
idered, and The petitioners had euvet to bring in n
bill.
Grand List.
On motion of Mr.. Rice of s. the House consd
cred The listing bill, when Mr.. X. substantially re-
newed his motion Of amendment made yesterday;
agreed TO. Mr.. keilh moved 10 commit for IL
mendment by striking out the assessment Of man
ufactures for their faculty, on the ground lha,
their capital stock and machinery is assessed for
taxation: negaved. The question REQUIRED on
the passage OF the bill, when
Mr.. PreDtss of irasburgh addressed the House
against the passage of the bill. He objected TO
the abstract doctrine Of the faculty TAX and par
tlcularly objected TO The adoption OF the principle
la this bill, 10y which ali the property one acquir
ed was TO be taxed. 1t WINS extremely unequal III
its operation: while the humble and poor mocha.
mic by this bill was taxed both for his faculty aud
the property he Acquires, the merchant aud the
innkeeper, however rich, was entirely exempt
from the faculty tax. The same species of inc
quality and injustice existed as to real and person.
al estate. The bill authorized deduction Of all
debts from the assessment of personal estate, but
made no such deduction from the assessment on
real estate. The consequence was that the hold
ers OF large amounts OF personal estate, and they
were generally spectators and wealthy men, were
entitled TO a deduction of their debts while the
farmer, with little Or personal estate, who's,
farm IN fact perhaps might be under a mortgage
for four 6fhs of lis value, was TO be assessed aud
taxed for the whole value Of his farm. Mr.. =
said the mass of his constituents we're agrcultur-
alisis and mechanics, upon whom this bill would
operate with great injustice, and lie therefore ie
bound to oppose the bill. The general rule that
1t any class was to be favored in taxation, il
should be the industrious and enterprising middle
classes was departed from. The measure pro-
posed an entire revolution in the listing system
and demanded the most mature, deliberate and
careful consideration. 1t was great innovation
upon our former system; and should not he ad
opted until the House was satisfied that it was al
So real Improvement.
Mr.. Garfield replied: he said it would not dc
to say merely that this bill is not perfect - nc
measure can be perfect: the true question was
whether this measure is more perfect than the old
system. He believed it was As to the objections
OF the gentleman from lrasburgh, both TO The fac
uly tax and the inequality to real estate he re.
piled that the same objections existed against the
old law. But there were real improvements in
this bill it was improved by the taxation of un.
uA III. ~
/ advantage of the poor aud impose ilst upor
The wealthy owners of wild lands, from which
.iiey were now exempt il was also improved sc
Tar as relates TO the taxation of personal property
On the whole it was a better system than the ole
one, and although not perfect, lie was for adopting
The discussion was further continued by MIR
febard ainst the bill, and Messrs. Villas and Full
lam in its favor, when MIR. Cleveland moved an
amendment to the 18th section which was reject
I'd. mollon to adjourn was also negatived, whel
The bill was passed. ayes ll6, noes 55
Adjourned.
SENATE.
2 O'CLOCK, p. Nj.
BiHs-layiDg a tax OH lands in Charleston twice
read and referred to committee on Land Taxes
in amendment Of chap. 20 OF revised statutes
twice read and referred to committee on the judi
ciary altering the names of certain persons re
ported by committee on the Judiciary, read hirt
time and passed.
Report, BY Mr. Sowes, OH the subject of tn,
abduction OF Grogan, that no legislation is neces
sary, the general government having that subjec
in charge.
Essen Co. Senator.
The Senate resumed The consideration Of Thu
subject and it was further debated with mucl
candor, by Messrs Crawford, Fisk and Eaton O
w., in favor of the resolution, MI Clark opposed
when the yeas and nays being demanded, the res
oluton, that Mr. Howe is not entitled to his seat wu
adopted, yeas Is, nays g; and the resolution CIV
ing Moody Rich, Esq, his seat, was adopted yea
Is, nays9
MIR Dillingham; introduced Mr. Rich, who. hay
ing been sworn by the Clerk, took his seat in the
Senate.
Message, from the Governor, transmitting doc.
umenls from The Executive of Virginia, relating
to the subject of slavery read and referred to the
com. on the petition of T.. u. Putnam and others
Resolution from the House, relating TO the MP
pointment Of members of Congress 10 office. On
motion OF MIR. Palmer, laid upon The liable.
House Bill, relating to the grand list once read
and 800 copies ordered to he printed
Resol,tions-By Mr. Dillingham;, providing for
the debenure of Hon. Stephen Howe pissed. L.
Providing for the debenure of Hon. Moody Rich
7 from the commencement of the session; pissed
Bill, relating to the militia, called up by MIR
Wooster; Senate in committee of The whole Mr.
Dana in the char, discussed various amendments
and rising reported, and the bill aud amendment,
were laid upon the table. Adjourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
2o'clock, p. NJ.
Resolutions. Relative to school fund, returned
from the Senate with appointments, which were
concurred in. Relating to the duty on salt after
brief remarks by Messrs Downs, Baker, Gun,
and Gilchrist the resolutions were dismissed, los
10 81.
Reports. By committee of claims, bin to pa,
Azariah Webb $50 for revolutionary services, anc
it was ordered to third reading. BY committee
on state prlson, against the petition of Rufus L.
Harvey, and he had leave to Withdraw. BY com
of Claims, against bill to pay VIM. Markham, ant
after some discussion by Messrs Hebard CUT,
and Sergeant, the bill was dismissed. BY selec
committee in favor Of tax Of two cents on the
dollar Of the grand list Of 1910 OF Washington
county, for building court house, and leave was
granted to bring in a bill. BY committee o.
Claims, against the bills to pay kiah Bailey Cd