Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1840-1842, 1841-07-12

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iout times until Il was now growing into a ha b
Of the Government, and 1t was HIGH time II should
be checked. We hNd had outstandin, al one time
IA 1858, no less ,han ten millions in this Treasury
paper. aud there remained nine millions out st,i
e Was This 10 pablo d,bIl Oh, no. There was mo
I public debt. None at all. Il was this new Admin.
,S'rluon which was gong TO plunge the country
, into debt. Something had been said yesterday
| about Juggling and many n man had iusciei
himself in this very way. But were the PEOPLE 10 hc
lusS lci into the belief that they were moi in delhi
when these notes were cut foe S9,OOOOOO Was a
debt any .csS a dcbi because II had but 10 DAYS
TO run rather than ten years1 No; bu, the dit.
, ference between them might be, that IN one c,se
the debt hid itself from view. Under tie sys-
ten OF Treasury notes to take up Treasury notes
one set on the back Of another, It was unknown 10
the country how much il was IN debt at any ono
time. The debi kept out of sight, and the
people were boldly told that there was no national
debt. And then, when new Administration came
into power, and. looking INTO the actual balance due
proposed to settle IN an open manner admtIrg its
who.e extent, and seeking means whereby to meet
and 70 dischNrcc ~, thea 1t was NJ oncc said "Ol
this Is the Administration that is going in debit
under TIE good Old lines we were not INTO Jeb'; but
no sooner 10 these people ce' into power than their
frs, act is to plunge the nation into debit" Now
50 far the Treasury note power sill suryvei loan
only went 20 change the form Of the debt and as
| Alr =. thought, 10 change II for the better. The
complaint, In fact, amounted tn this "Sou do not
do As did" We'll, what did you dol-pay the
deb'l No, you dad not. Il you had, We should not
, now have To provide for paying II. You went ia
! deot, and le, your debt 10 us with nothing TO pay
l. That Is what you did. Ard It he country Is IN
debt under This new Administration, whose fault is
| ~ The iIuy Of those stewards who were entrusted
with the revenue htrrtof,rc The spent all the re-
venue, and SIX Or eight millions ysaS besides.
| The whole charge 'sninSi us comes 20 this, tha,
finding debt on hand, We have not chosen to issue
/ our No cB TO- u, but prefer - give bono. What
coarse can he more open, upr.ht, hnGest-if the
cred t'' Wi1ne' Bd' IN the presen; case Shcre IS
a third party to te nsUtej, and hat j, the people
! o the CnUei Sta G.. We are Tor doing what 3
right and Just, and dom: IL ~ such way as all the
geop can understand. Here Is no ioc; no myslIh-
60 TO-; sTcak plain ENg.lSh that all can under
stand; and the People W.. bc able 20 Judge, at the
end OF The PERIOD Tor which the bond mas 10 run,
which course Is the mos; manly and the wiseS:
Mr. :. SAID he had It u view when he rose II no.
tee one or two Of the renllrks OF the gentleman
from South Carolina Nix PrcSens) which, on &C.
cOnr: OF the principles they contained, were ofmuch
mur- Consequence than the fate OF the bi.'. Tina,
SCGt cm,n MS IN ,hc h1Ol;, on sd. occasions, OF 60
tag back 20 first prime pies as tie underwood them;
| principles which, traced 10 thClr consequences,
struck e.; the roo. OF the Cnou and at the utrpcu.
/ ~ OF the Constitution. The Ecn'lem MS doctrines
/ went 20 the principles on which Ione this Govern.
meGi coG.d be l5min.s:e ci. II the gsnuemIR
was correct the Constitution ought never 10 have
been famed; u IS rot nstruuen, 10 be adopt.
ci 90 the Government Of tins co1nIry; and the Uni
ION l.sst IS TO 4uleI IN Injustice, and oush. 10 oe
dissolved. Waa; was tas .eu.leman's doctrine,
succ,nc..y stated As Mr. :. Understood him, Il
amounted 90 ,his that ,l taxes sh; 10 be expeG-
lGL where ia'y were -2!sec.
M PlrkENS here IuleTposti. Oh no. did not
say that. S-lt tina; ~ country possessing such
an tN s1ssve territory snc EN- Escs1E such Divers
ned interests n ours, iat raSrE o. taxes and thrr
expenditure was vita. question. Not that We o5-
C: 20 i- rasns o.! axes, out that the fact OF their
being -assI Cy genera. demand and expended IN /.
pa.,.,- ~ direction makes US o0k with great 50. T.
IcI:--s 81: the manner 10 ~-.cI the sevenue IS ma
d. a.H.a H a. u
tue Bn.sa G5vsrnne0', that Goyerumea, could F.
more easily rSse ami tSpsnG Two hundred millions .
ia1n could no..
Nr SERGEANT -aei. There was rimi- /
:s;loa 10 lie taxing power 90 the Constitution; Mr. I
;. knew OF no o.Asr. Il what Mr p. row stated I.
ina; The taxes were raised !n one place and ex-
pended To- another, was valid objection 10 the r,iS-
.l- VI taxes, ..su the Constitution ought to be a..
FcTei.
Mr. PlChENS again explained. He had no;
urged this reason why taxes should net Ue .
.l.sta, gli why the power 10 raise them should be
watched wiki Zsa Gus cEre.
Ns SERGEANT said D, came 20 the same thing .
g. as: either The Esbil-msns argument was an ar
mtnt Tor tax 0s against = tax, or Il no arsu-
men; al a.. Mr. :. knew that i was not an arsu.
men. Tor tax, therefore 0. mus, be ags!us, laying
iNes, a-1 so an argument Out OF the Constitution .
av- -g.G.t the Constitution. 1.-THE fact that taxes (
beng raised ll one place aad spsu, IN another was
al Argument against laying tax, then IL came 10 /
tE.s-tEal all taxes ought 10 be expended where /
they were raised. The passage quoted by the gem .
crlsE had contained IH.s very objection: ".ha, yeo-
DE ct q N.rsiun had power 10 lax the people ia .
virginia"
Mr. PICKENs sad he had quoted these wo,ds, .
but not with appreciation.
81 SERGEANT reminded the committee that
the gentleman had SAID that this (v.z: that taxes
raised ~ one par; OF the country were expended IN |
-HglIerl was the ground OF our controversy with /
En- .aGc, and rs r-ss;suce ended IN our lndspen-
csnce. Now, vi b would ask any gentleman If he .
had ever hsa'u or read tina, his was me ground OF
our quarrel with England No the ground Of tia,
qGArrc had been, that while were taxed we wee
nv; reprcser'gt' atau.
Mr. PiCKENS. Exa.ly; that is jus, wha, I
said. \ lugn.I
Mr. 5 sl!I 'Hey woI'd soon come TO the end of the
argument. II this Union vas 70 he preserved, the
Representative body mus; be collected from d fferent
parts o;tns Union unless, indeed ate from her
-r=airr power AM wealth, or PATRIOTISM or bravery,
claimed 90 lie herself the Representative H1Iv "a ]
.hu-u.l Then what was the next consideration
country Of this extent could no, be q pure d.mC-
cracy, where all the people assemble % consult and
- w'hc the .fwsi they must net ihrol b Rcprgsen-
u,vCs II free, 9, mus; be a Representative Rcpu5.
lie. Tic Representatives must come from o n .ren,
portions Il the community, else u would not be a
popular government aud hey must be iu proportion
10 the number oi the people, else cou ~, png be
apopI.lr representation. II gentlemen could shoy
that tins Government ought % represent pry1ery
and 90 % be an ars'Ocracy, or 10 represent priv.
eyed cas- and so % be 20 DlgarcLy let then, come
out boldly and say 50, and then their reasons
sHO4'I be * mined. But In the meantime Mr. !
sud that the geniemlu's argument vas an argurep, /
against the Constitution ard against the Union. u |
was aga INST representative republic; and If ,bere J.
could be greater political haresy imagined he knry,
not wn1' % wa. Mr. $. was aware tr.t In. ron.
tsman d. not mean 70 carry OFT the consequences
Of b. own principle, but those coussgusnc'e rourB
not but be very Serious when 10 grcl, rsprf. enia-
tive body every question involving tsxst.on was "a.
sImnd o. boo a ground Of rcpronch and OF COMPLIANT.
not against rs authors advocates but as ,.7r.i
tie Constitution itself Here par Of what MI \
said vas .osr rs lie turned anout 10 direct his re-
marks 70 Mr. P.cE-n7, who ct on the other siIcJ .
Mr. ). asked whether 10 was m, time for Amen.
ems who loved this Union 20 cling u the Union
and 70 eich OtbcH For ag last, their dependence
for defence against the whole world was uroo each
other. This Union has been so consccrlfcd in the
aHert Ons Of our people haiti uCy0r could be touch
cd " tHOut mourning distress and suffering beyond
description. We 1.l had n r,ht 10 the Union 4,
never could be dissolved but by force and whence.
aud when tnlt point was reached, the battle womb .
MT be fought with words. TIE man who rose IN
use such weapons would Gui the dlvvgr nj lis .
tnro.t. II would be- oOn,cs, worse even thar , .
sgryI.s war Indeed, be did 90, know but the nor.
Of social mghtbc aggravated by those Of n ser,
vile war, and both endured az once. The masses
might become So excited auI Infatuated against each
other that they might be tempted 10 seize upon FL nv
instrument Of vengeance that presented itself 4,
their hands.
Let Southern gentlemen remember what md who I
would ne SO presented 70 the rage Of civil srC. .