New-York tribune., 1841-09-18
r HE 7 RI B U N E
SATURDAY MORNING, sEPTEMBER Is.
Gather Extracts from foreign Diapers
(Rcceiycd by the Great Western)
THE CASE OF Mcleod.

...,. trough, ~ the case of Mcleod. After suc-
..n,v and accurately recounting all the ciIcum-
.,,,,es attending the capture Of the Caroline The
,,o., and detention Of Nc Lcod and the diplomatic
;,.o,copr,e upon the whole subject between the
Governments of Great Britain and the United
SAFES, he said that he wished to put to Lord raj
,,crs,on FIVE questions with reference to This sub
;.ct: [. whether there had been any change IN the
,rruage of the Government Of the United States
since the accession of the Wings TO power =
whether. BIZ any formal declaration Her MaJes'
.v's Government had assumed the whole respehs'-
Billy of the attack upon the Caroline O. whether
INC Government of the United States had admitted
,ta, responsibility. and had demanded PREPARATION
br the outrage and injury inflicted upon the United
s,a,es; 4. if the British Government had demand
d Of the United States whether, after such decla-
-,,;ou it was able. and at the same time willing,
., rDarantce the safety and Liberation Of Mr.. Nc
r,od. Notwithstanding the determination of the
State of New-York to go with the proceedings
,,w pending against that gentleman in the Courts
or that State; j. if the Government of the United
Safes admitted the validity of such authority as
,,4,ec,iaa over Mr. Mcleod, and if, having adj
nir,ed it, tho noble lord the Secretary for Foreign
,sairs could state any circumstances which JUST
sod the continued detention of Mr.. Mcleod by the
authority of the State of Ncw-York.
LoRp PALnERsroS in reply said that he re-
specled the motives of the Hon. and learned gen
,enan, and should be sorry to give curtailcd
snswe1 10 any Of his questions if he could avoid IT.
However, he Lord PalmerSton) must remark that
the proceedings of the honorable and learned gen
lleman was somewhat irregular. In the present
case, however, he should be happy 10 give the Hon
and learned gentleman and the House the iniorma-
ton asked for and he the noble ord) had no doubt
the statement he was about 10 make would tend TO
relieve the minds of many persons VIII" might have
thought the present state of the question connected
with Mr.. NJ Leod likely to be cause OF serious dit
erence between the two couutries-l hear, hear.
The narrative OF the honorable aud learned gentle
man vas subs aulially correct. 1t was quite true,
tha, 10 the first demand of the British Government
for the liberation of NJ Leod The answer given by
the late Secretary for Foreign Affairs in America
was py no means satisfactory; and he, Lord T.,
would readily admit MS doctrine OF international
law that no country or state had right to say, on
q demand of redress for wrong alleged to be done
BIZ that country ori,s subjects, that acted accord
inc Ia the pr;oorlos of tie peculiar institutions
Nations were bound 10 regard each other as aggre-
gate communities, having nothing 10 do with their
respective International laws and constitutions; if
one suffered wrong from another, redress should be
given and if The laws constitution OF the nation
which had committed the injury did not enable it To
make PREPARATION, then it must either alter its laws
or change its constitution, submit TO the other
alternative "a well us if IL private Individual
Hear, hear.
But in all cases u nation government must be
governed by sense OF expcdiency and the urgency
Of circumstances Now, referring to the case be-
fore the House. though the srst reply given to the
demand already mentioned was in his Lord Ps)
opinon wrong and on principles OF international
Law entirely unsatisfactory vet he had the satlsiac-
tion to be able TO inform the honorable member and
the House that from the present Secretary tor For
eign Affairs in the United States there had been re-
cci,ea by He, Maicsty's Government commune
cation enclosing copy OF the formal instructions
given to the Attorney General OF the L. States, and
containing doctrines which were perfectly Just ana
consistent with the laws of nations, rs well as IN
accordance with those principles on which The
British Government has demanded the release of
Mr. McLcsd-(hear, hear) These Instructions
were given by Mr.. Webster to the Attorney Gene
raj of the United States. He. Lord Palmcrston,
would read from them a passage which would at
oncr answer two or more of the honorable and
learned ccn,lcman's questions, because they would
show that the British Government had assumed the
entire responsibility of the attack on the Caroline
and that the American Government had considered
this question as one to be dealt with between the
two governments, and rs entirely unconnectcd many
way with the question how Mr.. Mcleod was 10 be
dealt with.
THE instructions referred to are familiar TO our
readers, and need not be quoted here.
The noble Lord then proceeded to say that no
thing could have been more honorable 10 the Gov
crn,pen, of the United States more satisfactory
to Her Naicsty's Government than this declaration
OF principle on the part of the United States. The
psssaces iuSt read answered almost all the qucs-
lions of The honorable aud learned gentleman, en-
cert that asking whether the United States Govern
meut had made application for redress OF injury
done TO the States at large and not 10 the State OF
Ncw-yorlS specially PROFESSIONALLY the original
demand was founded on that ground, and when he
(Lord I. briefly adver,cd to this question IN the
last session. ne stated that fact Us ground why 1t
was impossible for the United States to turn round
on the Government OF Great Britain and deny re-
dress on tine Pretence that this question was be-
tween England and the State of NewYork.
Sir Robert Peel took part in the prO,racicd de-
bate upon this subject. The following is the
substance of his reu'arks:-
did see with regret the omission of anv notice
OF our relations with ;he United States OF America
Not lha, entirely blame thar omission. am sure
ii was not a casuul-l sure i; was not an acct
dental one. WHY | regret it IS, tina, fear YOU
have nothing satisfactory 10 communicate. Cues
tons were asked of the nsblc lord the Secretary of
Foreign Affairs By the honorable and learned gen
tenan The rnennhcr for Bath 10 which the noble