Morning herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1837-1840, 1840-10-28

business TO him; that he must have been respecta
The District Attorney objected that this was no
| proper question, because it asked for an opinion
from the witness, and not for a fact.
The Recorder decided that the question was legal
y improper, 50 no witness could be asked to draw al
| inference. The witness could OILY be asked TO
facts-the counsel must draw their own inference
from the facts.
The District Attorney then withdrew his objec
ton, ana the witness answered.
A. am not in the habit Of telling my private bust
ness, or my occupation, TO any one unless asked
No, sir it is not to be SO inferred at all, as under
stand it.
Q. Where did you reside when you had this con
versation with Cochrane?
! A. / resided in Mamaroneck.
q. When you had the conversation with Coch
raRe, were you in Mamaroneck or New York;
| A. Why, in New York, certainly. My family
were in Brooklyn, and bearded up in Mamaroneck
preparing for my business.
@ Where did you stay in the city OF New York
| at this timsl
A. l believe it was at Mr.. Mathews, p Bow
cry or North American Hotel. | came down the
second day of the eeetion stayed that night at Mat
thews', staid up all next nigh at Tammany Hall
waiting the result ofthe elections did go to bed
at ALI waite to &c. the returns as far as could
pear or the books ofthe hotel, presume.
@; Who did you converse with at Tammany Hal
on that nightl
talk on The subjec, and do not remember any one
in particular. Probably with Fernando Wood, and
Mr.. rryson, and some others who went with me ia
the 18th ward.
Q. Who did you see there after one O'clock!
A. did Aot keep any account Of the time-I can
not tell.
q. Did you vote in the city of New York at that
A. dill not. And l never voted in any ward in
this city at any time in my life, except the nth.
Here Col Hamilton, as Counsel for Glentworth,
said lie knew the contents Of the Glentworth papers
Whiting tsen said, g Then I'll swear you, Mr..
| Hamilton y
Cor. A. HAMrLroxs TESTIMONY
Alexander Hamilton was then sworn.
Whiting i suppose, as you have abandoned the
prcfe on we may call you gentleman!
II IN iltoA. As you please.
Whiting. Call you counsellor at law, then.
Hss,iiion. As you please.
corder. Mr.. Attorney, as counsel Mr. Hamil-
ton cannot be asked to state any information he has
derived by acting as counsel
Mr. Whiting l do not intend to ask him for il
Q. Do you know, or have you any information, the
disclosure Of which is calculated in any way % lead
to the detection Of illegal votes given at the election
oft fall Of IS, orsprng Of 80, by either party
Mr. Hamilton. ! now ask the Recorder whether
as counsel, | am bound to answer that question:
Reeorder-Certainly not any that you have de-
rived as counsel
Mr. Hamilton I wish that put down.
Mr.. Whiting object to that Put down that the
answer Isl question to the Recorder, which he cr-
ders to be put down.
Mr.. Hamilton asks the Recorder whether, as coun-
sci for Mr.. Glentworth, he is bound to answer that
question.
The Recorder answers Mr.. Hamilton that he is
not bound to disclose any information which he may
have received as counsel for Mr.. Glentworth.
Mr. Hamilton then answered, 81 have no informa.
ton to communicate
Mr. Hamilton began to whisper to the Recorder.
Mr.. Whiting objected to this.
Mr. Hamton-Other than TO state that in that
bundle ofpapers-
whiting-Never mind those papers now, sir.
Hamilton-I have information.
O. Have you any knowledge Of the contents Of the
bundle Of papers alleged to be in the possession of
the Recorder, claimed by Glentworth, other than
what you have derived by acting as his counsel.
The Recorder having sent for Mr.. S S. Williams
when his name was mentioned by Mr.. Henry, he
rived, and
MIR. SAsproRD S. WILLIAMS EXAMINED
OF l67 Chatham street. l used to keep a porter
house formerly, and am now out of business. Knows
James Henry; was present at a conversation between
Mr. Henry and another person in this city, in rela
ton to cigars IL at Masonic Hall. In the fall
election Of 1888, Mr.. Henry and went round from
one poll to another, to see what we could see. We
stop'd at Masonic Hall and eonversed with gentle
man who said he was from Philadelphia. Mr.. Henry
and me were opposite sides in politics. They took
drink together, and Mr.. Henry introduced me 10
him. ! don't remember his name. Mr. Henry said
he born in Pennsylvania, and was acquainted
with some people that this Philadelphia stranger
was. This man told Mr.. henry, perhaps he could
throw something IN his way, in the way OF business.
This man asked Henry what his business was Mr..
said, =" am cigar maker" The man told him
he thought he could sell a good many for him, in
Philadelphia; and he referred him TO a good many
men in Philidelphia-responsible men Mr.. Henry
ICING much Of any business at present He gave him
his name and number. He said he brought some
men here from Philadelphia 60 vote. Af.er that.
Mr. Henry asked me what thought about it-about
trusting him. ! told him that shouldn't want
any dealings with a that had done what he said
he had.
Cro..-examined by Mr. Hamilton
q. Did you hear Mr. Cochrans inform Mr.. Henry
(slfnfwOrfh ai m ed inn IN hr,u
any men from Philadel phial
A. ! didn't hear him say who employed him at all,
cir.
q. Did you hear Mr.. Cochrane inform Mr. Henry
that he had received money for the purpose Of CO.
ming on here to votel
A. Yes, sir.
q. What amount Of money!
A. don't recollect that he stated what amount
of money.
9. Did he state th't he received any other moneys
A. I don't recollect Of hearing any thing Of the
kind. didn't hear all the conversation between
Henry and him.
q Did he state that he came on n, the captain Of
a band ri illegal voters. or ss one Of tbemi
A. lie said he came the head one.
q. Did he say he mad voted at the e!eetonl
A. didn't hear him say so.
q. Did he mention the names of any Of the per-
that came on with hint
A. Not to my recollection.
q. Were any OF those persons who came with
him present at the time he had this conversation
A. can't tell you, sir; wasn't acquainted with
the party.
q wa, yru present a, the examination Of Mr.
Henry, just nowl
A. came into the room bat a few minutes before
] was called upon Ito tes,fy)
g Were you supposed to come here'
a. Yes, sir.
q Before this mornisel
A. No, sir, ard not then till between ~ and
o'clock.
q Wa. il not agreed upon between you and Mr..
Henry. that you should come here this morninxl
A. No, sir
q. Have You had any conversation with Mr..
Henry, in relation 10 the conversation which passed
between MIR. Coshrane and himself in which the
witness vas PRESENT.
A. Nothing nore than last night he asked me If
recoilected the Circumstances that passed between
them a, the Masonic Hall
q What passed, then, last night, between Mr..
Henry and yourselfl
A Nothing more than that air He cd mn IN