Morning herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1837-1840, 1840-10-30

A. lido not remember.
q. Was il before or after
A. / cannot recOIieet SO as to partcularize the
time-before-or after-or when-I do not know.
The answer was read to him
Draper.-It was paid by Mr.. Blatchford, and sent
beIiere by Mr. BoweR and myself | meant
was furnished by Mr.. Blatchford. That's an i'm
pressisn I've got by talking the matter over since.
@. What instruction did you and Mr.. Bowen give
to Mr.. Ford, to be conveyed to Mr.. Glentworth
A. I do not remember the precise-construction
that is-instrustions -.
Here there was pause.)
- 1t was in effect, however, to stay any pro-
ccedings of his-in reference tothe objects-of his
journey.
G. WI a. was the $500 sent for?
A. If Iremembcr right, to comrly-with promises
which had been made-(a long pause ito some Of
the police (pause )-poliee oicers-wh no had made
the reve citation to him revelations to him.
G. Where does Mr.. Ford reside!
A. do not knoty. ! have never seen him since
that period to my knowledge. presume his name
Whiting-Get me Directory.
Draper.-I know nothing of the man. ! only
know he's whig-and very good wing, or was at
G. Why did you judge it necessary then to send a
special messenger, instead Of writing to Mr.. Client
worth and enclosing him the money!
A. tkiak-there was mail-no re gular mail
that would-reach him-at the time--H eve want
ed the information-to get there.
G. With whom did Glentworth correspond in this
city upon the subject Of these srrangementsl
A. do not knOc that he kept up CORES pon-
dence-wiih this conmttee-the committee-if at
all.
@ How long before your interview with Client
worth at your house, on the Saturday night, did
Ford leave this city with the S200l
A. do not remember. think it was after that,
instead Of before.
@. How long after that!
A. cannot tell.
G. Now, sir, did not Mr. Ford leave this city on a
Friday and did not Mr.. Glentw orth return to this
city on the next day, Saturday
4 IL .,s IL fprr in
O. When was Ford instructed that he would find
Gentworth in Philadelphia!
A. Idon't kn0to.
O. Do you know where the money came from, or
who furnished the money that carried to Client
worth by Mr.. HAven.2
A. Until / saw Mr.. Havens' Affidavit never
until saw it, knew nothing Of any transaction
between him and Mr.. Glentworth in refereLc e to
money, or anv thing else.
@ State all the con versation which took place be-
tween you and Glentworth on the Saturday, night on
which you gave him that draft.
A. had no conversation with Mr.. Glentwortk,
except in reference to giving him the draft
forth. IT'S impossible for sny man to tell in refer.
ence conversation that took place two years ago,
in any country.
g. Hotc came you then, sir. after tcriting that let.
ter ofMe 3lst Oct 10 permit these mex 10 come
under Mr.. Gientlrorth's arrangement
A. appeal to the Judge to know if I'm on trial
Whiting If he declines answering. sir, I'm salts
fed I'll put the question in another shape.
In TINS letter OF yours, you say you are ready
10 submit to the expense which GleHtworth might
have incurred in his preliminary arrangements.
Why, if he had already been furnished with the
funds you have spoken Of did ysu make this state
(Mr Draper took out newspaper, looked at it,
and paused
AN av fal pause)
A. To prevent any farther expenditure-than-
than the expenses which had already &C crued-than
already-had accrucd-in consequence of-our--
well-no matter.
@. Was the instrument which you gave to Mr.
Glentworth On the Saturday night spoken of-s let
ter-or a draft?
A. have before stated, that Icould not tell.
@ Now, sir wasn't that draft or letter given TO
Mr.. G.entworth on Saturday night, the 81 OF Nov,
1881
Apause.
A. cannot rseolieet My impression Is, it was
given before that.
Saturday night preceding election.
The answer was turned to, and found to be "a
Saturday night.
@ The Saturday you gave these drafts was the
same that you met in the committee room, as / an
derstand you
The answer was turned TO.
O. Did you make anv entries Of that draft of Mr.
Gill upon your books
A None rrhatsrer.
@ Has Mr.. Gill redrawn for the amount
Drsper.-Let mel was going to say-that isl
RENTED the smonut ON Monday morning in bills
check-at least made remittance-go on and say
-lthnk on Monday followin 2 the amount Of the
draft, or letter of credit-wih the fands-paid to
me-by Glentwor,h.-
Whiting That's all, Mr. Draper
Reeorder.-One moment, Mr.. Whiting, Mr.. Ora
per wishes to add something 10 his affidavit which
he HIS perfect right to do, sir.
addition 10 Mr.. Diapers Affdarn
am DESTROYS to state, before closing my testimo-
n.y. that have given in my testimony TO the best of
my recol' ecfion. The time which has elapsed, how
ever may have oblitcrated from my memory the
pre- else day and date, hours or minutes. IL has
mory Of Mr.. Blatchford was conptnie'iy short. 1
desire therefore, most solemnly TO declare that no
answer Of mine was made TO cover any fact within
my knowledge, give any other than my full tesi-
S. DRAPER, in.
Ma. SoUrHARD's TESTIMONY.
Theodore Southland was sworn He lives at Hal
let's Cove Long Island, and is captain Of vessel
Eramined BY Mr. Brady.-Q. Where did YOU re-
side in November, 1881
A. with James Is Wall, at the Hurigate Ferry.
q. Do you recoliect Of schooner coming there
during ate the fall election Of 1885, and Of some
being put on board sf her!
A. Iremember topsail schooner passed there at
that time. Itwas, 1 believe, the second day after
the election. put six men on board o. her. And
the others do not know.
A. They had some talk about the election, before
they west ON board. They said they had come from
7ih ward.
@. Did they say where they were going to-
A. Boston. believe.
q. Did they say what the serape was,
A. They said IL was something Concerning the
ton; about come men they had brought 4 ON
Philadelphia
q. Tell all that IL ey said about IT,
A. They .aia they were pursued by police officers
from Ne w ork and they wished TO provide some
way TO put them on board Of that vessel, at Mr..
Walls
schooner
A. There was about thirty on board. Il was an
useommon number for q vessel Of that kind but
thought il likely they mig be passenger.
bcardf
A. Yes, sir; and they ssemsd very glad to sc
them axsin; they said TO them, You're here I;
we're very glad Eft" heard the naaes Of the