Morning herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1837-1840, 1840-11-02

of aldermen stood adjOurned Friday a0>ernoon,
the chambsr and the corridor leading to q were
crowded with men anxious TO hear the dissnssion.
The officers had very cunningy permitted the au-
dienee suppose that the board was to meet in its
own chamber, whereas Alderman Purdy had de-
cided by the advice Of some Of the other members,
that the meeting should be held in the Superior
Court room, much more spacious and eligible
place But after that filed and the Pre-
sident was about to call to order, Alderman Benson
came in and objected to the srrangement altogether
and, after some discussion, in the course of which
Mr. Pardy insisted that every facility should be
given the people to hear the debates ON this aues-
tion il agreed to hold the meeting in the Alder
manic Chamber. rush was Immediately made,
and Rat room was at once crowded to sufocation.
Alderman Graham was put in the chair, and called
to order 'slifa
Alderman Purdy rose and said, wish this meet
ing might be adjourned, and place assigned where
a large portion of the people might be accemmo-
dated.
The President.-Do understand the Alderman
from the 10Th, to make motion to adjourn
Alderman Purdy.-I do not press the notion
though wish il might be done.
Alderman Chamberlain.-I do nst see how we are
to go with this discussion satisfactorily to those
concerned. Several of the gentlemen who to
about the door, that they cant get in.
Aid. Benson-If all the gentleman are not present,
let those speak who are here, and when they
done, others can be sent for. hope the discussion
may go Let as have mere interruption,
and more speechifying.
Aid. Purdy.-I shall reserve TO myself the right
both here aud elsewhere to express my opinions on
all subjects, freely and frankly. stand here the
repres sentative OF sovereign and free people, and
am bound TO be watchful-
The Presiden,.-I am sorry to arrest this debate,
but there seems TO be question before the board
When the board took last night, il was sta
ted that DR.. Bond was next to speak. IfDr. Bond
is in the room he will be pleased to proceed with
his remarks.
DR.. Bond-It is necessary that should at the out
Set disclam all hostility to our Catholic fellow citi-
zens. We sfths Methodist Episcopal Church have ne
feeling Of hostility prejudice towards the Catho-
lies We speak Of the creed of that Sect apart from
the Roxan Catholics themselves. We ourselves
have made great sectarian sacrifices for the estab.
Eshment Of the common school system. We would
have been glad to have children educated in our
peculiar tenets. But sacrificed all eur wishes on
this point all prejudices the altar Of the pub
| lie welfare.
We did see, as we say in remoastrance-we
did see with surprise and ALARM the application of
the Catholics at this period Of high Political excite
nsnt-on the eve ofthe Presidential election il did
create fears in mnds-we reason TO fear
that the object to wrest from the Common Coun-
ell, by intimidation what had been denied to their
former entreaties. The Catholics complain that we
oppose their petition. A gentleman skinning a liv.
ing eel, cursed the varmint because il would not
hold still. Why, sir, this sknning is a serious bu-
siness, and we can't hold still and submit to it.
The Right Rev. gentleman complains Of the
har, hness Of our language. We confess that we
march to our object by the straight road. We are
not insepsibe to the prepriety of exercising cour-
tesy towards those who differ with us in opinion,
but compromise nothing on the subject of reli-
gion. We say in our remembrance that the Cstho.
lie commentaries sanction the murder Of heretics
This the Right Rev. gentleman denies and he offers
to bet $1,000 that we cannot prove the charge. Mr..
President, our church, as the gentleman saws, i,
yet young, but it is old enough to have taught us
the immortality of gambling. II 1 should take the
genflcman's bet, and cover his $1,000. could not
take the money, if won it. 1t is contrary to
the creed Of church TO take the property of
others without, equivalent. Perhaps il may be
consistent with the gentlemaa's faith, but have
conscientious scrurlss on this subject and cannot
take up his bet I will endeavor TO establish the
assertion that the Catholic writers have sanctioned
the murder Of heTstics.
[Dr. Bond here read from the Rbeimi,h Tesla
ment some commentaries, which, he averred. su..
tanned the declaration in the renaonstrance
The issue which the right reverend gentleman
pronounces a false assumption, is, say, the tru.
issue. am here to-day to Justify and vndicate h,,
we have stated IN our remcns'ranee. The leading
objection made by the reversed gentleman Il ,h.,
no religion is taught in the public schools and ,b.,
nt.xs II -
ter. Now, the Catholics do not want schools kept
without religion being tasght; AID if religion is
taught IL must necessarily be sectaran in its eharac
ter This is the true conclusion, and there is
cape from it, II is said that we oppose this petition
because IL is presented by the Catholics. This as
sertion does Us injustice. 1.-THE Methodists applied
for portion Of this fund, I would oppose them in
the same manner The system Of Common Schools
Is based on a common principle. 1t is not safe to
submit the perPetua'.on OF civil institutions to
gnorant men. II is aeeessary for civillberty that
the whole community be taught
The Right Reversed gentleman said Yesterday
that II we did not like has purgatory, might 20
further and fare worse. Now, we will take our
chance for faring worse, and will take our chance
under Providence, OF going to heaven. We evil
ling to allow the gentIeuen the exclusive use OF
his purgstory, " he will permit our children
place to learn to read the Holy Bible.
DR.. Bond concluded by renarking, that he had
gone through with the remonstrance, and estab-
lished, as he believed, the points eontrovered BY
Bishop OF Hughes.
lie was followed By cr. Reese. | do not under
derstaad, said he, that sietbodism Romanism is
trial here. The real question before the board is,
whether any portion Of the money raised BY taxa
ton the whole people, shall be submitted to the
IL n n. A. -
ship for the Catholics TO be required to pay a
tax for the public benefit, when they voluntarily de-
cline n avail themsel yes Of this benefit !