The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1840-12-22

been paid by the Government He answered, mo,
and said he had paid them himself The gentleman
spoke as if he (Mr Naylor) had connised At the pay
nent Of this commissioner, and the door.kecper en-
ployed In 10 this question, alike lmpeaching
his honor and his integrity he could refer him 10 his
actions and to many members Of this House.
He believed that the Committee Of Accounts had
right TO pay them.
When he returned TO Philadelphia, these men wero
not paid He went to them in person and rendered
them their fees They refused to take them, and told
him they had been employed by Congress. Congress
was their paymaster, and they would not take any
money Over Them had no CONTROL and - with
the door Keeper. They refused 10 take my money
and how could when money had been passed here IN
Their favor, how could stop them and say you shsnt
take this money
As to witnesses. The gentleman asks, in whose
hand writing were the bills submitted by these WIT
nesses. He (Mr. Naylor had the bills sent to hum.
and wrote that he would pay them, and there the mat
ter stopped
One of the members Of the Committee OF Accounts
camesto him the evening of the day prior 10 the
adjournment of last session. and To his astonishment,
told him that the Committee OF Accounts had allowed
Mr.. Ingerso 81 $50 He (Mr. Naylor) told him thai
il was an outrage and plundering. That II was not
right and violation of law. Mr. Johnson wished
him to take the money for his witnesses fees but he told
him no-he would not take the money for 1t WAS
plumber. After he got TO Philadelphia, he found on
his table letter enclosing him drafts in favor OF those
officers. He had nothing to do with the employment
Of those men. They would not take his money. The
bills were not in his handwriting, and be had no
means by which he could prevent these men from re-
ceiving the meney, although he attempted IT, lie
called the witnesses and told them it could not be
taken without visitation Of law and he his drafts
back again, and if the witnesses wanted the money he
would pay them. The drafts sent back, and he
put himself to not little trouble raise the money,
and paid them 6O0-and did il to his own honor
against the spolls systemic stand by his oath--by
the Constitution and laws-and what Che asked) was
there in all this to disgrace him, subject him TO
taunt, reproach rebuke. He claimed no merit for
ibid but his duty He refused TO take the sum OF 500
$500 offered him. Ii there an improperly in
all this he had explained II, and he had followed
the facts he was willing to take the shame Of IT,
Mr. BRIGGS offered amendment TO Mr..
Bolts resolution, provding-That all papers in
relation to moneys paid in this case be referred to the
Committee on Public Expenditures, with directions TO
inquire how much expended-by what authority,
Mr.. UNDERWOOD wanted 10 call the attention
Of the members of this House to the commencement Of
this thing when the contest between Messrs Graham
and Newland, of N. c., in reference TO a contested
seat for the first tme-Congress paid the individual
contesting it, He voted against in the of
Moore and Letcher So he voted against his good
friends in New Jersey the other day. He was in ta-
of paying them to the time of the decsion-that
they entitled to their seats They paid both
parties in contested election, Then was the time
when this House first did wrong in this respect. He
was in favor of the motion of the gentleman from
Massachusetts MIR Briggs)-refer the matter 10 the
Committee-to take some decided action IT. 1t
would go until your witnesses from this day hence
forth and forever will have to be paid There should
be an end to IT..
Mr.. JOHNSON, of Va, made some remarks which
| were not heard by reporter
MIR. WISE agreed with his friend, that we ought
not to pay double price for any seat in this House
| no seat was worth it, In the of Moore and Let
cher the principle introduced of paying double for
seat in this House. He at this time TO inquire
of this House, by what authority they make MIR. In
gersol Mr. Naylor the trustees to receive the pay
ment Of their witnesses What security has the Go
vernmont that Charles J. Ingersoll Charles Naylor
will pay over what is due TO the witnesses II owe
A debt and without authority from him pay il to B,
| A can still collect the debt from in any court of
justce-and it is my own responsibility that pay
him If does not pay it over, am still bound to
pay A.
| He agreed with his colleague, that although thit
of the appropriate duties Of the Committee OF
Expenditures that the Committee ought to have looked
into without nstructohs-yet as they had not done
it, the Committee of Accounts ought to be per
mitted to justify themselves before this House if they
can do it,
Mr.. Bolts inquired whether the Committee of
Accounts had the authority to pay any thing
Mr.. SMITH of Me, made some remarks, and was
about to call for the preyion question; when
Mr.. CUSHING rose to speak. Mr.. SMITH would
not relinqush the floor unless the Gentleman would
confne himself to five minutes, when he would GALE
for the previous question.
Mr. CUSHING said he would not occupy more
than five minutes. He said the gentleman from Ken
the of Newland and Graham the first Of the
kind. The first record was the case of f. r. Pa
ten, from Rhode Island, who paid by an act O.
Congress- and of the House voted that actf
Mr. JONES called for the previous question.
Mr.. Bolts then modified his resolution fol-
lows: ~
Resolved, That the Committee of Accounts be in
structed to report by what authority they authorized
the Clerk Of this House to pay the Of ~ 100 so
to Chas j. lngersoll and others, for taking tesmo-
MES, and for other expenses incurred in the contested
election between Chas lngersoll and Chas Naylor.
The previous question was then put and carried
The resolution, modified, was finally adopted
without division.
PETITIONS.
The Speaker then proceeded to call on the States
in their order for petitions, memorials, &c. &c.A
large number of which presented.
Several bills were also introduced on leave and
some resolutons-of which more particular notice
will be given in our next
The Speaker about to proceed to call on the
Committees for reports, when successful motion
made TO adjourn
Mr.. VIM b CAMPBELL presented the petitions
of Jonathan Fair, asking for arrears of a pension.
OF John Ditty ST., of White county, Tenn, asking
for the wages due him soldier of the revolution
and which remain unpaid.
Ofthe heirs and legal representatives of Lieut. Col
Henry Dixon, of the North Corollna line, CONT
mental establishment for the years half ply al
lowed to the widow under the resolution Of Congress
ofthc Oath Of August $50; which were respectively
referred TO the Committee on Revolutionary Claims.
Mr.. CHlTTENDEN presented the petition of
certain inhabitants Of Jefferson county. New York,
for post route from Carthage to the village of Adams,
in said county, which referred to the Committee
Post Offices and Post Roads.
Also, a memorial from inhabitants Of the same
country praying for the construction Of ship canal
around the Falls of Niagara.
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