Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1840-01-13

Mr. Fillmore of N. Y, objected to the suspen
sion of the rules, and Mr. Wise demanded the ayes
and nays. The House objected, 100 to II. So
the House refused to suspend the rules
MIR Rice Garland soon after presented some
resolutions referring to the subject of Slavery in
the u. S.
Mr. Adams said he should vote for the recor
ton of these resolutions if they could be discus
sed. He feared the Previous Question, and was
therefore opposed to suspension. The yeas and
nays were then demanded upon the motion to
suspend. The vote was yeas l07, nays 80 Two
thirds were necessary, and the House refused to
act upon the resolutions.
SMITHSONIAN REQUEST.
Mr. Adams brought forward bill in relation to
the Smithsonian Request which, upon his motion,
was referred to a select committee of nine mem
bers hereafter TO he appointed.
PRESIDENTS MESSAGE.
Mr. Thompson Of $. G., upon motion to re
consider the vote whereby the House ordered the
printing of extra copies OF the President Mes
sage, made by him on Friday last, spoke at some
length commenting on and disappearing of the
Message. He thought it n very nbe document,
but very disngcnuous one, and warned the South
not TO trust the author of il.
After Mr. T. had concluded his Speech which
occupied about an hour,
MIR Duncan Of Ohio, moved the Previous Cues
ton.
MIR Thomas said that in making his motion TO
reconsider, he designed to have the Presidents
Message debated. If this could not be done he
would Withdraw his motion. The motion to re-
consider was therefore Withdrawn.
NEW JERSEY " B. CLAIMS TO SEATS.
Mr. Duncan of Ohio, brought forward a resolu-
ton that the five Van Buren, claimants of seats
from New Jersey be allowed to take their seats
until the Committee of Elections decide as to their
right to seats upon the floor. The resolution was
not in order, and was not of course adopted.
The Speaker communicated certain documents
! - rnlo IL No. a.,
Mr. Randolph moved to refer them to the Com
OF Elections.
Mr. Turney moved to amend the motion, by re
ferring to the same committee the certificates of
the Governor OF New Jersey, and all the papers
: in relation TO the New Jersey elections in posses
I sion of the House.
Mr. Williams of N. C inquired what was the
nature Of the document communicated by the
Speaker, and how it came in possession of the
House.
The Speaker said the document was composed
RI Of ccrtain dispositions taken in New Jersey, in re-
laon 10 the late elections there for members Of
this House, and which had been transmitted to
him by mail, and that the House not in pos
session of any other documents on the subject
Mr. Hubbard was opposed 10 any reference
whatever. There was, he said, no Of COLI
tested elections to 60 TO the committee. All the
questions that had been agtated in the House, had
been in reference TO the returns only. The only
question that bad been before hem was, who were
returned us members from New Jersey When
the question of contest was raised, then it was
n time TO refer the matter to the Committee Of Flee
tons.
MIR Bell entirely concurred with The gentleman
from Alabama. Thee was no petition contesting
the seats of sitting members for the House Lad
decided that five of the New Jersey members
{ should not take their seats This question should
be brought fairly before the House. and if no other
member did, he would bring it forward as privi-
legged motion He understood that there were
four or five gentlemen claiming seats as Represen-
latives from New Jersey, who had been waiting
I here since the commencement of the session, and
their claims had not as yet been decided on. lie
f hoped the House would proceed with caution in
this matter, and recoleci that they were about set
ting n precedent that would he followed in time to
come and not loosely refer these matters to n
committee before any petition or question OF con
tested rights vas before them. iftIe House would
receive resolution that would relieve il from the
> difficulty in which it involved he was pre-
Il pared now to make it, lie thought that the mo-
ton submitted by the gentleman from Ohio (NlI
Duncan,) was the only one made in order this
morning. for it was II privileged motion, inasmuch
as II related to the question MS to who shall occu-
Ply the vacant seats of the representation from N
> Jersey.
Mr. Wise commended that the reference proposed
was exactly in the way in which the question
could be brought before the House. The COM
mtee would, after examining the returns aud the
y testimony in possession of the House, make up
their report, showing who have the legal creden-
tias, and who ought to take their seats the sit
j. ting members, while they are engaged in collect
ing testimony to enable the House TO decide who
- are ultimate entitled to membership.
y MIR Duncan inquired of the Chair whether The
= returns Of the polls at South Amboy aud Millville
which were suppressed, We're 10 be considered as
- included in the motion Of reference, and would be
= sent win the other documents to the committee
of Elections.
The Chair supposed that the papers referred tc
y by The gentlemen from Ohio would not be inclu
ded in the reference, and that no other paper
would be referred than The dispositions Just lait
y before the House.
Mr. Duncan observed that he had supposed
and as 10 those dispositions, if they were Topped
- as he suspected, he should object their recep
y ton.
Mr. Briggs inquired how these dispositions CAM
before the House.
T. The Speaker said that he had received them h,
" mail, directed to him as Speaker of the House o
Representatives
g. MIR Briggs then observed that they were no
:, properly in the House at this time The rule was
. when the Speaker received papers by the mail, L
retain them until calling over the States for tn
1f presentation Of petitions, and then such paper wa
70 presented wien the name of The state IT cam
" from was called.
MIR Bell npprehended that the only question il
~ order, and that could be in order, WAS, who wer
- returned members from New Jersey. Tn
, House ought 10 decide this question in some form
or other; but lac hoped the gentleman from Ohio
- after what had been said 10y the gentleman from
=, Virginia, to the absence OF members, wou
= not press this question for the present.
, MI Adams was in favor of a reference OF al
y the papers relating the subject, and of givin
the committee power to send for persons and pa
! pers and the committee, he said, should be in
~ strucied 10 inquire and report to the House VIII,
~ are members from the State of New Jersey, ant
-, that they have leave to report by bill or otherwise
!. Mr. Duncan sniJ he rose to inquire whether Ger
tain papers were or were not in possession Of tn
y Hnusn uul ,YnnILnr ILnM womb be- rulrrad LII