Rutland herald. [volume] (Rutland, Vt.) 1823-1847, 1839-12-16

CAUSE ilr nF2atugAtinn 81 t1c House mot
piciod The yeas and nays therefore could not he
tskru
Mr. Dromgoolc then rose and gave notice that in
oasn such decision should be made In the very
iooih Of tho Constitution. which requires that Tie
yeas and nays shall 10 called when desired by one
hiih 81 the members present he should take an APP
peal from a.
Mr. Duncan then asked II tlicro was not a rule of
lie las, House Of Representatives which prohibited
member hom voting 'on anv question ~ which he
Is Immediately and personally interested, and this
rule. IN tho opinion 81 the Chair, did not apply 20
persons claiming seats as representatives from y
Jersey.
The Chair decided that the FIVE members from n
Jersey, who were commissioned 10y the Governor,
were not prohibited from voting under that rule
They themselves not Immediately and person.
ally interested Il was their constituents who were
Interested
with ihc broad seal Of " Jersey entitled those
holding them vote, he would ask gentlemen, and
the Chair particularly, what 10 be done with the
certificates and broad seal of pennsylvania, which
certainly ought "a be broad as the great seal Of
New Jersey. In the case Of the State OF PcDnsyl-
vana, said Mr. ID. We have the certificates OF two
Governors, both with the broad seal of the state,
certifying that two diorcn, persons Imessrs Inper
soil and Naylor,l are elected to represent the same
district What arc you TO do in that case VIII
any gentleman tell me IL you admit the claimants
from \. Jersey, because they have the Governors
certificate with the broad seal, you not admit
tpAA Oh TWO penllclUcn nom IennSNlNantd c1Cn
oi whom have similar documents and thus give Pa.
one representative then she is entitled to
In order that the House might have time TO reflect
the subject, and in order thai the Chairman might
also have lime TO reflect it, he would move that,
when the House adjourn, it adjourn 10 meet on Mon
day next.
Mr. Mercer moved to amend the motion by adourn-
ing tomorrow at 10 o'clock.
Before any question put on this motion,
Mr. Duncan moved that the House do now adjorn;
which motion carried without division. and
The House adjourned.
Monday, Dec. o.
HOusC.-No organization yet-and no nearer
spproas&4p IT,
The House, to-day, took up the question on the
reading OF the evidence in the Jersey case cal
led for by Mr.. Duncan. A long debate ensued in
which Mcssrs Granger, Vanderpoel, VIM. Cost John
son, and others took part. The sub-treasury Geor-
pia wings, messrs Colquit, Nesbit and Black all
spoke, and spoke well on the subject. These gem
ilemen all in favor OF admitting to seats those
bringing the regular certificates. They maintain
that due regard for State Rights and State Sove-
rcignty requires that the commission from the Gov
OF State should be taken prima facie evil
dence of membership
Mr. Underwood thought he said, that we had dis
cussed this question long enough. lie had, there
fore, determined to move the previous question:
Before moving the previous question: he would pro-
pose plan for proceeding on the subject lie pro-
posed that the clerk should read the roll in any way
that he pleased, and that, after getting quorum
should try the contested returns and afterwards pro-
coed TO elect Speaker. agreed, agreed" cried
many members.
The previous question seconded The main
question permitting the reading the papers was
ordered to be put, and being put, was determined in
/ the affirmative, ZIG TO l0l
The reading of the papers was then continued illl
/ the usual hour af adjournment
The Presidents Message will probably be com
muncaied TO the Senate alone on Wednesday. The
Senate have appointed their committee to-day TO
wait on him Ii was understood yesterday that he
would read the Message to the Senate should they
desire 1t.
This being the DAY apart by the Senate for the
| election of officers Asbury Dickens Esq, the for.
4 mer Secretary, unanimously reelected to MI
i that office and Mr.. Haight the former door keeper
/ also reelected, receiving 80 out OF 81 votes
/ that being the largest number polled. Mr.. Robert
Beale chosen assistant door-keeper after three
| balloungs.
A resolution was introduced by Mr. Allen which
was carried by general consent To appoint com
mittee to wait the President, and inform him the
| Senate ready to receive any communication oil
an executive character that he might be pleased tc
l make.
Tuesday, Dec. TO-
The house is moving round in circle, leaving OF
4 where they begin. with the question, ''who shai
vote - At the adjournment to-day, they were
far of as ever from the decision of that question,
N from organization.
The question, at the opening of the sitting, wa
on the appeal from the decision of the chair tina, I'll
4 ielers should count the votes of those members WI
I only presented the legal certificates from the Cox
l Of y. Undermined in the negative. SO the dc
L clsiou Of the chair not sustained.
After remarks and propositions from several men
Il hers, and resolution from Mr. Cost Johnson, a
having in view definite settlement of the que'
i ton OF the contested claims Of the y. j. member
Mr.. Thomas, of Nd, inplored the House TO fac
the question at once, and decide who should vo
instead OF choosing these shadows. lie propose
that the House should take the question on the M
ton 10 lay the resolution OF MI. Wise on the iabl
L Tie was very sure he should be in the minority.
Mr.. Kay protested agains, the decision OF the cha
that he would not put the question on the motto
that neither should vote, arbitrary and erToneou
TWAS directly contrary. too, 10 the proposition
ihis subject which the chairman made at the la
session. lie Withdrew his motion, however, at u
request III some OF his friends.
Mr.. Wise moved the previous question on the re
oln,ion OF Mr.. Johnson, which was, in substance,
receive the Governors certificate as evidence OF u
legality OF the election OF the y. Jersey members
Il Mr. Monroe Of \. Y arose and attempted to G
II stuap.