Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1839-12-16

during APPARENT confusion; hut pnothina ike in.
tended disorder. When MIR Adams took lhe
char, there was also fnomentary manifestation
Of feeling in one of the crowded gallares by cnp.
ping of han,l., &c. which induced some mem
bers to that the galleries be cleared but the
irregularity in the gallery having ceased, the mo-
tion was not pressed.
Mr. Mercer then moved that the rules of the
last Congress he adopted fol the temporary gov
eminent of the house during the preliminary pro-
ceedngs, which motion was unanimously agreed
MIR Wise then offered the following resolution
Resolved, That the Acting Clerk Of this house
shall proceed with the call Of the Members from
the different States Of the Union in the usual
way, calling the names of such members from
New Jersey as hold the regular and legal COM
miss oiis from the Executive of TINT State.
motion was then made that the house adj
ourn.
On which motion, Mr. Jenifer asked for the
yeas and uays, which being objected to, Mr. j.
Withdrew the Gull.
Mr. Pctrikin having renew the motion
Mr. Briggs rose, und said the motion could
not be entertained until roll of tile house WINS
first made ont, and it was nscertnined who we're
the members. He therefore hoped that the yell
tlenian would withdraw it.
Mr. Pcttikin insisting on his motion division
was demanded and tellers were appointed when
there appeared I03 in the Affirmative and 90 in
the negative.
The house then, on motion of MIR w. C. John
son, adjourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
The members elect ofhe house were called to
order AT noon This day by the Hon. John Quincy
Adams, chosen yesterday to he their Chairman
who directed that the Journal ofle proceedings of
the four days gone by, should be read aud it was
read accordingly at the ClerAs table.
MIR AZ batt ,l a 4 4
that it was HE intention move that the motion
OF the gentleman from Virginia, (Mr ses, orr.
ginally Mr. Graves,) which the Chairman had an
nounced as the motion pending from yesterday, he
nld upon the table, with view TO enable him to
offer the following, which he read, viz:
Resolved, That the House vii peoceed TO call
the names of gentlemen whose rights 10 seats are
not disputed or contested and after the names
of such members are called and before Speak n
is elected, they shall, provided there he quorum,
OF such present, then hear aud adilge upon cleo
tons, returns and qualifications Of all claimants 70
the sents contested Oh this floor.
MIR Rheu proceeded 20 support this resolution
and hnally moved Tint the resolution offered YES
terday by the gentleman from Virginin (Mr Wise)
he laid upon the table, 10 afford him an Upportu-
nifty to move the resolution he had read
Tellers demanded.
The Chair appointed Mr. Davies of Pennsylva-
mia, aud Mr.. Drongoole Of Virginia, to uct as tel
lert.
Mr. Dromgoole observed to the Chair that he
had been appointed 10 act as one Of the telers,
and was ready to discharge the duty assigned him
but desired first to he instructed by the Chair how
he to perform it. He understood there were
ten gentlemen claiming right to seats as Repre-
sentatives from New Jersey which of them was
he TO admit TO pass between the tellers He was
wholly unwilling to take the responsibility upon
| himself of deciding between the claimants
Mr. Adams replied 1T correctly heard nv the
! Reporter, for he spoke in low tone of yocel
that the Chair conceived the rule to be that such
persons as possessed COMM .sions in conformity
with the constitution and laws Of New Jersey,
were entitled TO vote as members of the house.
and that no others were entitled. This was his
own opinion: and he expressed it with the more
confidence because he had openly asserted the
same opinion yesterday, Immediately before the
house had placed him in the station he now &C.
cuped.
Mr. Dramgooe said he ignorant who the
gentlemen were who possessed such com missions
ne ha,! seen none of the papers of the claimants,
ana did not know what they were. Was he to
| admit NIL who sad they had commissions accor-
ding to the laws oither state?
MIR Adams replied. an,. was understood to say
that had been stated by HE Clerk that the COM
missions of five oih,r "cute.nen, whom he named |
were III the same y iIds with that of Mr. Ran
doph, whom he hal recognised as n member.
MIR landerpoel took an appeal from ths decs-
ion OF the Oh 'lr, which he pronounced an act off
tslrpstion. Cries OF Order others OF $50
on! 90 on"] IL was vrl,iapy declaring that the
gentlemen from New Jersey should vote in their
own case, when rule of order was staring the
Chairman in the face, which declared directly the
contrary. lie appealed from such decision.
Mr. Rlet real 10 TO tbs Chair the rule of order
| referred to, which is in the words f0llowing
No member shall vote on any question in the
event OF which he Is immediately and particular
y interested"
The Chair replied that the rule did not apply to
the present case, because il was no, the ReuIesen-
talives from New Jersey who were concern.d
NV 'ielr constituents and their Suite il was moi
these individuals own case TWAS the case Of ,hai
District, and of The State of New JERSEY.
MIR W. Thompson Of South Carolina contend
ed that "A member had as much right to vote ON
this question as on any other. When II man
brought regular commission from his Sine he
was cioiiled with all the rights belonging TO any
other member Of the house, and, though >r T.
should in such n case, decline voting yet if these
Gentlemen chose to vote, they had clear ami in.
disputahle right 10 do g..
Mr. Mercer said that gentlemen were contour.
ding Two distinct propositions and treating them
as II they were but one. The first proosil0n was
The appeal taken by the gentleman from New |
York, MIR Vanderpoel j the other was built u,,-
on 1t. VIZ. whether hose who hold regular com.
missions from the Governor of New Jersey should
he allowed TO vote on that appeal.
Mr. Stanly wished to say a few words in reply
to the gentleman from New York, (Mr Wander
poel) who had already, before he had been three
day in the house, heen referred TO us one of the
leaders of his patty. The gentleman had volun-
teered here rs the advocate Of order and decen-
cy, and had now undertaken to read to The gen
lleinen from New Jersey lecture on the shock |
ing enormity of voting in their own case The
Char however, had very justly decided 10 vote
rs to their right to HE seals they claimed was rot
TO vote in their own case, hui in the case of their
constituents, whose rights were ut stake IN this
controversy. The gentleman from New York
was especially Indignant nj the thought of the
violation OF precedent which The decision of the
Chair would sanction. Indeed And pray
when had this ne " born zeal OF li,s for precedent
arisen in the gentlemans bosom?
Had NOT The geneman been all nlnno rnisinc