The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1839-12-12
HOUSE OF REPRESENTA- flyEs.

II
The hour OF IL having arrived. the membe rs e,s.,
Of the House OF Representatives were called 10 n,
der By their Chairman the honorable J. q Adam,
/ . The CHAIR stated that the question before rs.
house was still on The appeal Of the gentleman fra,
| New York, Mr.. Vanderpsel from The d.ciSin W, I,
| the Chair, touching the yoles which were 10 h.
counted from New Jersey, and thar on that que>,iN
The gentleman from Ohio, Mr.. Duncan, was enu.nj
| TO the floor
| Mr.. DUScAs no, being in his place
| MIR. WISE moved the pTepi0as question
| Mr. DROOMGOOLE appealed 10 his coIleagr.
To delay that motion, Would il not look hue y,
/ fair thus TO take advantage of few minutes di
ference in clocks and watches 10 cut off The gepls
man from Ohio by such motion, for being minus
or two behind his timel
/ Mr., WISE said he had no desire 10 cut Of n.
residue ui The genilemans speech, but he did nornr
derstand that he was Certainly expected 10 pTores+
/ He would lei his motion stand for few mimi.
longer and II that gentleman should then appear ss
1 request him to withdraw il, he would do 40 n.
! hoped the Chair would pause little. :"
Mr.. CRAIG said that no doub the absence of,,.
/ gentleman was accidental he would soon be hen.
/ Mr.. JENlFER asked If The motion had b.s,
withdrawn II il had, he should renew it, ~"
4 Mr.. WISE explained.
Mr.. JENfFER said, IL the gentleman from vi,
1 ginia did not move the previous question be Mr.
moved II. lie had no idea tina, gentleman vpo
4 got up and abused half the members on all side, ~
him should be treated with this consideration 10
had no wish 10 wait in order TO hear the res, Of sg
asPeech: 49,"
Mr.. WisE's motion being pending
Mr.. DROOMGOOLE moved a call of the house
by the time that should be gotten through with me-
| gentleman from Ohio would PROBABLY appear
i The CHAIR readth rule Of order t5urhinc
cali Of the house, and asked If he house should b,
! called, whelherIbe original question would 10, i'm
med'a'eiy present itself again, who were 10 be al
Mi. DROMGOOLE Certainly il will 49,.
question must stare you IN the face lurn which ~
you will Gentlemen may talk what thew rlc,ss
about obstacles 10 the organization OF the House
| that is the obstacle.
Mr. CHINN, Of Louisiana, said he had ar,;,i
paed that question: and he held in his hand no
legal certificate OF membership under the sigbauIs
of the Governor Of Louisiana, and allcstca By tts
seal Of the State; he therefore demanded that hi,
name be enrolled He advanced ihercupon Ia Tho
4 Clerks table, and laid his credentials Upon ana
added that, ashe came prepared and re>o ,r d dis
charge all The duties OF member he >aoult nav
give in his vote for Speaker and be tesegyn
handed in written ballot, stating that he had sIn
len upon II the name OF g john Bell"
This movement produced some mer.maaLl
Mr. DROMGOOLE presumed that he eeulie.
mans name had been already enrolled
| Mr. CHlNN said his name had not been called
Mr.. DROMGOOLE- Neither has mine but
believe the Clerk has il upon his r L.
Mr.. WISE. BY the clock of the Administration
party, looking al the clock of the house oppoSie 10
the Speakers chair, which is OF course, alwaN
right it is now three minutes after the time OF NEE,
ing. renew my motion for the previous question.
The CHAIR. The previous question has been
moved Is that motion seconded
Mr. DROMGOOLE. Withdraw my motion IN
| call Of the house,
Several members asked what the main question
would be ...
The CHAIR replied the main question would he
on the appeal of the gentleman from New York MI
! Vanderpoel, from the decision OF The Char thai
those members from New Jersey alone should be
counted by the trllers who produced comnis,lQEs
in conformity with The Constitution and laws Of New
Jersey
| The decision of the Chair was reversed, aves
| l0S, noes ia, four members from New jersey
voting ....
Several resolutions were afterwards introduced,
and debating continued. In the course Of it the
Chair said, .~
be deprived of her representation in this House and
so long as | stand in this place she shall moi, at
which there was much uproar; the assembly, appa-
rently, generally approving The firm stand taken by
the venerable Chairman.
Passing over the various scenes which il is i'm
possible TO report, The Hall being nothing but corfu
sion worse confounded, and the varon, struggles
| for light only making the darkness visible, We come
to the remark of Mr. CaAIG of Va, that long he
held seat on that floor, New Jersey Should no. be
deprived Of her representation.
We can never get along unless we attack difficulties
as they present themselves And what It's he first Of
them The first is the difficulty led by the Char
| man himself who refuses TO register our edcts
| MANY voices, The Chair has Withdrawn that dec.
son."l ...
Mr.. Craig continued. How has the House decided
BY reversing the decision of the Chair ii has dcrdd
that the gentlemen from New Jersey bearing the Co
vernor's commission shall not vote. 49,.
Mr.. WISE here inerposed, II Gentlemen will al
withdraw their motions, we can get The question
Mr. CRAla am not in favor Of delay bu, if ~e
to continue to beat the air here, may we'll do It
as another. Let US look at this subject men-as
honest men-men who regard our consciences, and
obey the honest dictates OF hearts Let US act
with candor and mutual forbearance aud courtesy.
voice. Bravo bravo; you go il like a BOOK
| can, if choose, deny THAI what they produce /,
candor tells me that it is, and will not deny it.
Here Mr.. CaAIG's voice was lost to the Reporter.
in the general Babel OF sounds that filled the Hall
Mr.. w. C. JOHNSON said he would withdraw
his second proposition. His first, standing alone
presented, III substance the question which had been
made by the Chair, viz "Who should vote Z"
The CHAIR The question is not on The resolu
ton OF the gentleman from Maryland The ques
ton is, "Who shall sote ~ That is the question
the first question to be decided
Mr.. c. W. JOHNSON | am willing to with
draw my resolution If the gentleman from Souti
Carolina Mr.. RhetD will withdraw his motion TO la,
on the table
MIR RHErT Why cannot the question be de
Cidea on tnat DIS wen dH duy olnet ploposhloh
Mr. WISE Because il evadeS the real question
Mr.. RHE TT declined to withdraw his motion.
Mr.. G. w. JOHNSON. Then refuse 10 With
draw my resolution.
Mr. MONROE rose and said that he did not in
tend 10 follow the gentleman from Virginia (MC
Craig) through his argument, or To discuss the an,
theDticly OF the broad seal of the State of New Jer-
Sey.. But, as he (Mr. M had, in consequence Of
i'll health, lost his vote this morning upon The first
question which had been taken, and he fea red that
he oh h. lpta frap hv he
cause, he wished that his constituents should dis
tnctly understand what was his position here, lie
should have been glad II The yeas and nays couI be
taken, but, in the present nnorganized condition o.
the house, that could mol be. He had risen simply
for the purpose of declaring solemnly before the