Morning herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1837-1840, 1839-07-12


District Attorney-Well, when YOU rot 10 Provi
dence, where did you go?
Witness-Why, to Boston
District Attorney-Who paid the passagss
District Attorney-Where did you 60 to at Bos-
h M,tness-Io house in kind of an alley, to
Iaay. n was kind Of boarding house. We staid
about three days, and White paid the bill.
District Attorney.Where did you first hear Of the
Witness-Why, on the way to Boston from Provi-
dence.
District Attorney-What did you say about it!
WItness-Why, said was innocent of tho
mans death; for had NO knife with me: White
said the same He commenced the conversation
about it,
District Attorney-Well, tell what he said?
Witness-He told me that he did not believe there
was any one killed. l said did not know; onlv
heard there was some killed. He still said he
did not believe there He said he had no knife
said.
District Attorney-Had he the same clothes ont
Witness-Except the shirt don't know if he had
the same shirt We took a few clothes with US
two or three shirts and some pairs of pantaloons.
District AttOrney-Where did you go to after yoa
left Boston!
Witness-To the house where we were taken
District Attorney-Did either of you try to get
shipl
Witness-Yes, White offered to go in vessel 70
New Orleans, but did not ship. We were arrested
He lthe prisoner) had nearly the same clothes
but think had his coat on; he had on mine.
District Attorney-Who requested the change Of
clothes?
Witaess-I did, the Sunday after we left this
city.
District Attorney-Is that all that you know about
this matter?
Witness-Yes.
District Attorney-You have said you had no
knife; do You know if White had one?
Witness-Why he had one, three or four months
before a IN w lad
that three four inches long; the point was
sharp. borrowed it in the winter and threw it
down on the ice, and broke the point Of it.
Cross-examined by Mr.. Graham-I broke about an
eighth Of an inch off the knife when threw it down.
1t was an ordinary jack knife, such as is common
among workmen. White did not insult any one
when ne went into Gafney's The people there APP
peared to be all in liquor-were very noisy angry;
their hands at least going ifthey were angry
We went to all these dances perfectly peaceabfe,
and no intention OF making a muss. Inever spoke
to Or provoked any Of the men at Gafney's. did
not say that White was in liquor, and would take
him away mysef-but told the landlord that If he
The biggest part Of the had their hats Off All
the men seized hold Of the prisoner and pulled him
away from me- The landlord did not interfere He
tried to get OUT but did not modest the except
to say "let 60 ofme."
At this part of the proceedings Judge Edwards left
the court again, and some little conversation took
place between Judge lngliss and Mr.. Graham in
which we could only catch the words ''reservng our
rights, of course"
Cross examination resumed-The stoop was yery
smaIi-net more than step or two between the
door and the Sidewalk After the door was shut we
did not stay long enough for any one to open il again
When went away up Broome street, | left White
and Pearce there along with the Waterman. No
noise but the wrangng among the people at Calf
ney's. The Waterman was near enough to the door
when 1 returned to Gaffney's stoop to see if any,
thing was going on within the house. He did not
appear to be taking more than ordinary notice He
did not seem as if any thing was gung on inside.
did not see any one wounded did the pr or
my brother say that any one had been wounded. The
door OF Gaiiney sstore was standing wide open when
came back. heard the Waterman rap but did
not see any thing occur between my party to make
him rap The noise was still going on among the
people aside. heard at home that some one had
been stabbed and il then that it occurred TO me
to go away although knew that was perfectly in
nocent thought might be blamed for the mis-
chief done that night as well as any else. That
was my reason for going away next day.
Graham-From all that you saw that night was
not the prisoner as innocent as you werel
Graham-Do you know that he was more guilty.
that you weref
Still objected to.
Graham-Do you know that he had any other mo-
tive than you had for going away7
Witness-I do not.
Graham.-Did he say that he was Innocent
Witness.-Yes-bu he said at the same time that
Graham.-Had you heard at that time that YOU or
White were suspected.
Witness.-No.
uraham.-W hen You was at Gaffney's did you see
any meat knife there.
Witness.-Yes one about a foot long IL Law on
the meat bench, which was on the right as you en-
tered the just within the door that opened into
Wilet street l saw the knife as l went in but did
not see IT as went out. Our party had the chance
OF taking up the knife, but did not see any Of them
touch IT. As the men belonging to Gaffney's party
turned up against the wall, they must have pushed
the meat bench. The handle Of the knife Law against
the block. IL could easily have been knocked of
the beach or block IL White had held this knife
in his hand suspect should have seen IT, / did
not see the knife when went back. White got his
neck so hurt that night that he was obliged to wear
something like a stock round his neck while he was
nj Boston.
Graham.-You have answered many questions n
bout you and White at Boston
Witness.-I have answered them two or three
times over.
Graham.-Well, you say his neck was hurt
Witness.-fes. saw IL when he went 10 bed.
Graham-You stated that you wanted to coma
back from New Orleans in three months Did
White assign any reason for wishing TO come back
soon
Witness-No We changed our clothes in order
to appear little finer Sunday, and for No other
reason. We were both arrested in Boston, and
brought back to this city. was told that il would
be witness against White, should not be examin.
ed asa prisoner II was Judge Palmer that told me
so. Mr.. Taylor called me out and said they were
going TO examine and said that I vould answer