Herald of the times. [volume] (Newport, R.I.) 1830-1846, 1839-12-19

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next to decide that the other set, Mr.
Dickerson and his associates, were legal
ly comm ssioned, and ought to vote.
Mr.. Mckay offered Resolution. tha
neither set of members claiming seat
from New Jersey shall vote unIil tn.
question. 4" who shall vote from New.
Jersey 2" be decided by the House.
Mr. VIM. Cost Johnson offered the
following as ii substitute
ReSolocd, That certificate Of election
~ Il member of the House of Representa-.
ives Of the u. s. duly made in conorini
~ with the laws pfihe Stale which thc
aries processing 10 roPreson',and signed
by the proper officer, under the gren'
seal OF The State, is sufficient per Sc ic
ontile the person to whom it IS given T.
be sworn in, as a member OF the House,
pr,vi ed, that no State shall have moro
Representatives than is allowed to 1t BY
the Constitution and laws Of the U.
1 Resoiced, That under the 9TH section
oftho I'd article Of The Constitution. tn.
House of Representatives. of the U. 5
can only look beyond certificates, ant
Judge ot the elections, returns, ,and quail
iica,ions, of It's own mcmb;rs,aiter It shall
have been organized aud sworn.
Mr.. Adams Inc Chair could not enter
tain either Of the motions. The lionsc
in his opinion, could not decide that nel
,k"r set Of the members cruld vJtt The
liousc could not, under the Constitution
suppress tho vote of II State.
Mr.. 1homr', of Md implored th'
House to face the question at once, amt
iccde who should vote.
Mr.. Wise also urged the House L"
come to the vote Let all the disputed
members vote on the preliminary ques
ZION, aud if II varies the vote, the House
could then vroccct. determine which
ofthem should vote.
Mr.. Wise moved The provions question
.n the resolutions of Nr Join TN.
Mr.. MonrO, of New. York, rose aInids'
calls for the previous question and there
sas much confusion.
The question being demanded on Mr..
'ohnson's resolutions, Mr. Adams dcci
led, that no question could be taken on
that resolution, until the House should
determine who shall vote. lie would
not entertain that resolution.
Mr.. Sladc remarked upon the prcsen
condition Of t1ings. We were further oft,
he said. from an organization now, than
we were a week or more ago.
',I,
asked the Chair what was the question.
Mr. Adams said. the gentlenln from
South. Care n . moved to lay lhe motio
# Mr.. Wise on the table, and the ques
ii. II occurred, who should vote on The re
solution
The Chair said those who had the le
gal and constitutional certificates shoult
vote. That decision has been set aside
10 get clear oflhe officially, the Chair
,ow p.opo, es, that those who choos,
may vote. and that, if any Que who shal.
vote, shall be disputed, the tc'lers shall
rcptri their names. Should the disputed
votes not vary the result, the vote vii
pass if they should vary the result, tn
Chair will call upon the Horse to dccid
whether thcy shall be received. Every
oao cried out, "agrccd, "agrecd."
Mr.. J G.. Rivcs rose to make slg-
gestion, but Mr. Wise obj'ctcd, a d IN.
sisted upon the question:, 10 lay nPon the
table.
Mr.. Adams was unwilling, he said,t'
refuse to hear suggestion, though not
.trictlv in order, in the prescn! state OF
the House.
Mr.. Rivcs wished Mr. Rhcl,'s PROPOSE.
ton which he intended to offer as sub.
stitute for Mr.. Wise's, to be read.
Here there was grea' and intentional
confusion, it being the object OF many t."
nrevent the House from coming to the
question and al.o to keep MIR. Rhet,s
compromisc out of view.
NJ r. Holleman denied that the chair
mau had any right to make any PROPOSE
ton. He denied The power OF the char
10 originate or put any prcPosI'ion. H.
lappealed from the position OF the cha r.
Mr.. Adams asked, from what The
gentleman had appealed
Mr.. Holl-man. From the proposition
you stated.
Mr.. Adams. The chair withdraws
that proposition.
Mr.. Wise moved The previous question
aud the proposition was adopted
Mr.. Mckay rose to put an end to al
difficulty by aunnunclng that the gentle
men from New Jersey wcu'd not rote OIL
lhis question.
AT last, the meeting came to tn
yote on the motion of MIR. Rheu 10 Ia,
ON the table the motion Of Mr.. Wise, tha
the Clerk bo directed to call the roll, IN
cluding all legally certificate and com
mssioncd menOeis.
The Tellcrs declared ll5 in the al
irmallve, with no disputed votes an'
ia in the negatlve,- one disputed vote.
Mr.. Naylor's) having passed through
Mr.. Adams voted in the negative, and
made q tic :sn the motion was lost.
The question being whether Mr.. Nay
.or should vote Mr.. Wise moved lha'
Mr.. Nay lor's vote be counted.
MIR. Nay lor disputed the right OF ever!
man here to decide on his vote.
i Mr.. Smith, of Maine. dispute th'
right Of the gentleman from Penns! lvani'
III tD vote.