The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1839-01-24

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eh1'v y !, other persons, during the said negoia-
sa' ,hs time Of signing said treaties. for any pnr-
80 q, subsequently delivered 10 efeeuhon o. 'ne
pose, ,oa.,her w,h a statement Of the expenses OF
~s'or,una said treaties, with the names o. Inc per
son, 10 whom paid and the sum Pa'a y eas"
The uouse suspended tho rule
Aud the resolution (noecuon ,.as 5000 ~ lie
u It's consideration d. 'h's ''Nn
o' Th -" SPEAKER laid bef,re the House message
COON the President OF the United States relative 10
~ ;n,.rmeddng IL any foreign government OF
VIC hins mr. officers thereof, with the Indian tribes
Tue ~ Wisconsin, and the Territory beyond
Ne Rncky Mountains, or elsewhere IN The United
ST. IN repy 10 resolution OF the House OF the
i''a :, letter from the Secretary OF the Navy, in
Il, J., a reSou ion Of the House OF the lith inSl.,
c,Iling Tor $50 copies OF the chart OF Newark bay
and sand brs in the vicnv stating mat the survey
NJ s,jd bay and bars was made under the direction
ofthe Treasury Department, and the charts are not
in The possession OF the Navy Department
Also letter from the Secretary oi War, IN com
pance with resolution OF the dnuSe OF the iHh
Instant c llling for information relative to the pur-
snt canture and execution Of certain repued Indian
All, a letter from the Secretary Of the Navy
transmitting statement OF contracts made oy the
Com nissioners OF the Navy Tor supplies Tor the
Naval service during the year 1888
Also letter from The Secretary OF War in com
nioncs with The resolution OF the House OF the lih
instant, calling for any examination VI surrey INV
NAV have been made Of the harbor OF Marcus
Hooa, &c.
A number Of Senate bills on the Speakers table
were read twice by their titles, and committed.
The Senate bill providing for the reduction ana
graduation of the price Of the public lands coming
up on its first and second rcadinS-
Mr. CASEY moved its commitment TO the Com
mlee on Public LlndS
the select cor,mit,ee appointed on the public lands
And the question being the motion to commit to
the Copnl,iee the Public Lands Chat notion hav-
ing preference y
M. LEWIS WILLIAMS demanded the yeas and
mas, which were ordered
Mr. MENEFEE inquired ofthe Chair # the subject
was dehatesble
The SPEAKER replied that it was debateahle with
in very limits; but the merits OF the bi! could
not be debated
debate of some length followed, directed almost
exclusively the question Of reference, In one or
two Instances, where gentlemen seemed about TO drag
the merits Of the bill by sudden observations, the
Speaker promptly lnterposed and decided that remarks
having that tendency Of order. Messrs Meme
fe Robertson, and Lewis Williams advocated the
rrfere1ce the Select Committee the Public Lands
and Messrs Casey, Shields, Haynes, Parker. Boon,
and Chapman, to the Committee On Public Lands
Mr.. SHIELDS said, he wished to make one OBJ erva-
ton more on y on his reference. Hehad no feeling
whatever with regard 10 the reference But that il
had ben stated in The discussion that the vote that
alb ,ut 10 be taken on the reference would be re-
garded as Test upon the merits OF the bill So far
he said, as his vote was concerned, II would DE no
test OF his opinions on the subject OF graduation. He
very far fir IN b ing prepared 10 Vote for the &c
neral provisions of the bill He wished the refer
10 the standing committee, that its merits might
b. examined SO that one might vote understandingly
the subject He could say, as one OF the Commit
tee on Public L1nds, that he was as well prepared
to judge impdriay the bill! any member on this
floor His object was, that il might go 10 the stand
ing committee, appointed at the commencement OF
cesSion, TO take care OF the interests OF the country
generally on the important subject OF the public do
main. This bill legilimaiely belonged 10 them, and
unless the House was determined to Dust that impor
tan, sin ding committee of its jurisdiction he thought
the motion 10 refer to that committee ought 10 pre-
vail He repeated he had no feeling on the subject
whatever, but that he should vote to send il TO the
Standing committee on principle.
When Mr. HOWARD demanded the previous ques
ton hut Withdrew the demand the request Of Mr..
w. g. JOHNSON, who desired to make explana-
ton, aud promised to renew the motion.
Mr.. J said that If this bill referred to the Com
mil,ee Public Lands, 1t would be proper for some
gentleman to move that the Select Committee the
Public Lands be relieved from the consideration Of the
North Carolina resolutions otherwise that subject
would be before both committees This was a vital
portion Of the questions arising out Of the inquiry
to the public lands Many members Of the saect
mittee had said that they would he in favor Of dis,rbu
ton If that principle was connected in some degree
with udicons graduation and 1t was probable that, by
uniting the two principles project might he introduced
subject would he to prevent The select committee from
repornga detailed system.
MIR. J. then renewed the motion for the prevois ques
ton.
The SPEAKER said the main question would be on
the motion TO commit 10 the Committee on Public
Lands
Mr.. EVERETT submitted to the Chair that the
main question would he the engrossmeut Of the bill
The SPEAKER (referrng to the rule) said that the
gentleman right.
The motion for the previous question was ,hereupon
Withdrawn.
And the question recurring on commitment, the re.
ference to the select committee was further advocated
by Mr. Lincoln, and to the Committee on Public Lands
by Messrs Ewing ard Gushing.
Mr.. MONTGOMERY expressed himself opposed to
both references though if he must vote for one, he
favor of reference the select committee. But
believing such bull to be unconstitutional, he moved
to Law the table, and demanded the yeas and nays
which were ordered,
Mr. LINCOLN moved call ofhe House which
was agreed to.
The call having proceeded some time,
Mr. MURRAY moved to suspend further pro-
ceeding> in the call but the motion was negaved.
The call Observation-Disclosures were called, and
excuses received, when
Mr; THOMPSON again moved TO suspend the
car out II was neg lived.
Mr. THOMPSON then moved to execute the
5hh rule OF the House Prospecting taking into Gus
todv absentee not executed
MT lkoMGOOLE moved 10 suspend further
proceeding; winch was al length agreed 10.
Mr.. SAWYER moved TO adjourn; but withdrew
the motion, tue yeas and nays having been ordered
upon it.
The question was then taken on Mr. M,nrgome-
rvs motion 10 lay the bill on the table, and decided
as follows:
YEAS-Messrs Adams, Alexander IIeman Allen.
John w. Alien, Anderson, Aycrlge, Banks Borden,
Buchanan, WIN. Calhoun. John Calhoun. John
Campbell, Chambers, Chlls, Coffin, Coles Corwn,
Cran-ou. Darlington Davec, Dawes, Deberry Evans,
atrha -.
dn-s, James Graham. Grantand, Graves Grcnnell
GniRn. HALEY, Hail. Harper, Hastings, HAYES. Haw-
k"s, Henry, Hoffman, Hopkins Robert NJ r Hunter.
Jahez Jackson, JenIfer. w. e. johnson, Kennedy Ic-