The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1839-12-14

viz. the members themselves. "shall hear and de-
iermine." My colleagues resolution says thai
Mr. DRoMGooLE Is il in order to reply my
colleague1
The CHAIRMAN. Ills in order much con-
Mr.. bRoMGooLE. Well then my reply islhis:
suppose that in proposing 10 make this investiga.
ton by committee do not take this work out Of |
The hands Of this House, because the House may act
The CHAIRMAN The Chair holds IL compe- |
the House TO proceed In executing the Iesou.
tim il has adopted In any manner u may deem mos
expedient and proper. think the resolution 70 IN
order.
Mr. CRAIG rose, but his voice was lost in cries
for order and question When heard, heryas max
ing a suggestion 10 his colleague, Mr.. Dfomg"oie,
bul what the suggestion was, the Reporter couu ho'
discover
Mr. DROMGooLE modified his resolution BY
proposing nine instead OF seven. as The nnihpeI "
The committee, and then he called the previous
Mr.. PROFIT rose amidst loud cries Of order
ask an explanation OF the gentleman from Virginia.
f. Order, order, take your seat The DINER gehue
men allowed, and ! have right to sPeas as
him" am responsible here and elsewhere re. lor ait
say thar shall offend any gentleman lCfieS OF
z Order; others OF ego on.l -
The CHAIRMAN The gentleman IS OUT o.
order. ,,. :,
Mr.. PRoFFIT. appeal from the decision o.
the Chair, and the appeal have righl 70 speah.
| [Cries Of "No, you have nols ofoe' 81
4 o0 The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is not in or
4 der The question is not debaeabe.
Mr. PROFFIT. Il is well for some OF you mat
is not debateable. ,,..-
Mr. PROFIT. Withdrawn
The CHAIRMAN. Is the previous question Sc
| condedf
Mr. vANDERPoEL. demand the yeas and
The CHAIRMAN. You cannot upon this stage;
on the previous question or The main question The
| yeas and nays may be ordefed.
Mr. BELL, Of Tennessee, asked for the reading OF
the second clause Of Mr.. Rheti's resolution; and 1t
| was read accordingly.
! Mr.. B. then said: submit this point OF order for
the Chair Is the resolution offered by the gentle
man from Virginia, Mr.. Dromsoole, 10 conformity
with the terms of the resolution Does The resolu-
ion contain any such limitation n regard 10 the ex
tent oil the estimonyto be examined as expressed IN
the resolulion2 The resolution limits the examna
ton TO papers the table of this House. Ii II
is TO be understood il cannot be in order, because
| il is violation OF the resolution which the House
has adopted for the law Of lis proceeding. If this is
i 10 be adoped the other must FIRST be rescnded; then
| i will BE- in order make no objection TO the APP
pointment OF committee, but insist that the terms
OF this resolution must be as broad as those Of the
other.
Mr. THOMAS. rise to reply TO the objection Of
the. gentleman from Tennessee, MI. Bell Thepro-
| visions Of the resolution are three fold f.
/ Mr. PROFIT. call the gentleman from Ma
ryland to order
Mr.. THOMAS. II is very strange that gentlemen
will allow some members to explain, but not others.
! The CHAIRMAN. / presume that it was not the
intention Of the gentleman from Virginia, Mr. Drom-
gooe, to limit the testimony TO be submitted to the
committee in degree beyond what expressed IN the
! resolution Of the gentleman from South Carolina II
he does his resolution in order II the committee
shall refuse under this resolution 10 receive any further
testimony, will be competent for any member OF the
house to move that further testimony be referred to IT,
do not therefore consider the gentleman from Vir-
GINA out Of order If the committee shall be ap-
pointed, Its duty cannot be further limited than as
pressed in the resolution Of the gentleman from South
] Carolina.
Mr.. WISE. Do understand my colleague ad
hitting the construction Of his resolution! ask this
because know my colleague of old.
| Mr.. DROMGOOLE Don't make me TOO old. IA
laugh.l The view expressed by the Chair is mine.
had no idea OF keeping out any testimony the house
may desire to be examined. They send to the COM
!. mittee any thing they please.
[Cries for The question
Mr.. SLADE rose Loud cries Of No. no! Or
der Question, question ~ ...'
Mr.. RErRIKiN call the gentleman from Yer
mont to order r. Order! Sit down"]
Mr.. SLADE. rose to ask the gentleman from Vir-
gina to modify ["No, no Order Question ~
The motion for the previous question seconded
by The house. put, and carried And the main question
being the adoption Of Mr. Drongoole's resolution
=. Mr.. BYNUM called for the yeas and nays, which
| were ordered ."...'
! The CLERK proceeded to call the house.
/ When the name of Mr.. Barnard, Of New York, was
called Mr. rose and said decline answering to my
name, the ground that there is constitutional
power in this house TO enter the proceeding ndl-
Gated in the resolution.
When the name Of Mr.. Cooper, OF Georgia, was
reached, that gentleman said, do not vote have no
power vote. It is not my duty to vote, The house
has not power 10 enter on the proceeding.
When the name Of Mr.. Randolph was reached, he
rose and said. Protesting against the right OF this
melting Here his voice was drowned in loud
cries of " Order.'l
The roll having been called, .".
| Mr. w: COST JOHNSON said that before the
suit announced he had then openly declared that
he had voted because he had considered the whole
proceeding illegal and void but subsequently, he said
that with that declaration he would nevertheless give
his vote, as its effect might be Of some good
| The CHAIRMAN announced the vote to stand
| yeas l23 nays "a, as follows
| YEAS-Messrs. Adams, Afford, Judson Allen, Hugh
J. Anderson, Atheron Banks, Beatty, Beirne, Black
well, Boyd Brewster, Aaron " Brown, A. G. Brown,
Burke S. ii. Butler, w. o. Butler, Bynum, John Camp
bell, Carr, Carroll Casey, Chapman. CLARK, Clifford,
John Davis, John w. DAVIS, De la Montague, Doan,
Doig Dromgoole, Duncan, Earl, Eastman, Ely, Fine,
Fisher, Fletcher, Floyd Fornance Galbrai,h James Gar
| land, Gerry, Griffin Hammond, Hand j. Hastings, Haw-
klns, j. HILL OF ~ c.. Hlilen, Hoieman Hook Hopkins,
Howard, Hubbard, Jackson, jameson Joseph Johnson,
Cave Johnson, n. Jones, J. W. Jones, kem, Kemhle,
Leadbetter, Leet Leonard, Lewis. Lowell, Lucas, Nc
Cellan, McCulloh Mckay, Mallory, Marchand, Medl'
Miller, Montgomery S. W. Morris, Newhard, Parish,
Parmener, Paris, payner, Perkn, Prentiss Ramsey,
Reynolds Rives, Robinson Edward Rogers, James Ro-
gers Sauels Shaw, Shepard, Albert Smith, John Smith,
Thomas Smith, Starkweather stenrod, Strong Sumter,
swearingcn sweeny, Taylor, Francis Thomas. Philip +:
aseS aa9@Rs0a nansE Jars D VIII
| Hams, II Williams Worthington--l23.
NAYS-Messrs John w Allen, Simeon II Ander-
son. Andrews, Bell, Biddle Black, Bond, Bolts Briggs,
Brockway Arson Brown, Calhoun, w. Campbell Car