The Madisonian. [volume] (Washington City [i.e. Washington, D.C.]) 1837-1845, 1838-03-27
IN SENATE.

Mr.. TALLMADGE presented memorial Of citi-
of Troy, New York, on the sublecto suppress
ing dueling
Mr.. BUCHANAN presented, on the same sub
ject, petition Of citizens OF Lancaster county, Pen
sylvana Also from citizens Of Philadelphia, on the
same subject Also,
Mr. BAYARD Of citizens of Wilmington, Della
ware, for The same. Severaly read and laid on The
table.
Mr. TALLMADGE presented memorial Of citi-
zens Of New York, protesting against the passage OF
the Sub-treaSury bill laid on the table.
Mr.. CLAY, of Alabama presented memorial Of
the Alabama College for agrant of land. Referred
Also, petitions for post route. Referred.
Mr.. SOUTIARD presented memorial OF citizens
of Orange and Essex county, New jersey, praying
Congress to establish National Bank. Laid onihe
table. .... ."
Also, ,sundry petitions for private land claims,
Referred
kee Indians in this city, for redress OF grie-
yanceS IS ..&|..
Also memorial signed by Is, G6l Of the same tribe
of Indians in aid Of thesame.
Mr.. SOUTHARD moved that the same with
accompanying correspondence and documents be
printed
Mr.. LUMPKIN thought the course suggested by
the Senator from n. J. (Mr. SouTHARD,) traught
with incalculabe mischief to both the Indians and
the citizens of the States in which they were located
In December, 1887 a treaty was concluded between
the Indians and Cove nment very liberal in its PRO-
visions more SO even than any one ever concluded
rod, universally large appropriations have been
made to carry the same into effect
Ii was well known that small portion of the ma
ton had been dissatisfied with the treaty.
was small party, headed by Jno. Ross, the Ffnci-
pal chief The commissioners of Government,
appointed TO superinend the removal OF the tribe,
in accordance with the treaty, found about nine
tenthS of the tribe in favor OF the removal, and
among them, most of the friends of Ross great
majority of The tribe have already emigrated to the
far west among whom was the very intelligent
chief and brother Of Jno Ross, now in the hearing
of his voice with most others OF distinction in the
nation who had addressed letters to those remaining,
encouraging them to follow. Jno. Ross was man
who exercised great influence over the more igno-
rant portion Of The Indians.
Mr.. Ross has been for two years past in Washing
ton getting mp memorials to Congress, &c While
the diSafected Of the nation believe that he is
gagged in etfectpg repeal OF the treaty and there
fore, will not hear 10 the agents of the Government
Mr.. L. had objections TO Mr.. Ross remaining
here or elsewhere; but he ought not longer TO be
suffered to continue the the Indians
al the South. Nine-tenths of those remaining are
willing so west but contend they must first hear
definitely from Mr.. Ross, and hence the difficulty,
they believing that the treaty will be finally abroga-
ted hope to remain. On the 23d OF May next, the
limits Of the treaty expires when the best of the
tribe must be.compeed to leave, as the citizens of
Georgia have grants of the lands on which they now
reside and determined to go and take posses
sion, peaceaby if they can out forcibly if they
must. When this period arrives there will be no
alternative, the Indians must De puSned OH the lana.
Collisions and conflicts will inevitably cnsue,
which mus, end in bloodShed His object was thus
forciby to prevent the scenes which are now but
in the prospective, that the Senate could see and
Judge for themselves. II Congress remains inactive,
or rather should revive and continue the subject till
the period arrives such must be the utimatum.-
He therefore hoped no notice would be taken of the
memorial TO encourage the vain and delusive hope
in the hearts of these deluded Indians.
MIR. CLAY, of Alabama, presented letter from
Gen. Smith, the Indian agent, giving his opinion
which he wished read as it would set the matter in
its true light.
Mr. SOUTHARD proposed different course he
wished a full investigation but was willing if by
general consent, the mater should remain quiet for
the present He should, however, call for the read
ing of the documents offered by him. (Which were
very longO il the Senator from Alabama (Mr.
Clay) still persisted in his demand He deprecated
any discussion on the subject at this time.
Mr.. CLAY still persisted in his demand for the
reading in order that the sense OF the Senate might
be definitely tested al this time.
Mr.. KING hoped the gentleman would conpro-
mise their difference, and let the whole matter rest.
If the question agitated at all il would only
cite with the Indians hopes and expectations which
could.nevcr BE- realized, Both sides of the subject
had heretofore been fully discussed, before the rat-
fcation of the treaty. It was now solemny ratified
and had received the full sanction of Congress and
if the sublect be again agitaed, incaculabe injury
must be the consequence To this deluded people He
fell for them most sensiby, but they must be made
to understand that treaty from its nation must be
enforced the part OF the General Government, and
nothing can be done by them to SetiaSide He hoped
the documents would be neither read or printed but,
BE- laid on the table there to rest for ever.
Mr. CLAY only wished the letter read 10 give the
Senate such information as to impress upon it the
necessity Of dsposng of the subject forthwith. Ele
however world not longer persist, and moved to lay
the whole subject on the table. -
MIR SOUTHARD regretted that any controversy
should arise at this time. The delegation having
put the memorial into his hands he had felt il his duty
TO present it in form. This he had done, and il
all he intended to do at present. Whether right
or wrong upwards Of $4,000 Of the nation had
come up here and represented themselves aggricv-
ed and Congress could do no less than TO give them
a hearing. Thus to consider the subject act prompt
~ thereon and if best 10 make report of but FIVE
lines ii would prove more decisive than any vote
which could b. taken at present, and thus silence
forever their delusvc hopes and expectations fthcir
ALLEGED grievances should prove, as represented,
unf1undcd For himself he believed the treaty, as
II was termed, was no treaty and that the Indians
had been deceived and abused nor should he long
Let the subject rest without giving atength bis views
thereon and represent, in their true light the claims
of this wrongcd and injured race
MIR. GRUMPY was opposed to taking any notice
of the matter.
MIR. WHITE was willing to revive the subject in
committee, but would prefer laying 1t on the table,
vet he was willing 10 give the Senate any informa-
ton the committee night possess on the subject
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to by
vote as follows .4 49,. .-....
YEAS.-Messrs. Allen, Benton, Brown, Buchan-
an, Clay, of Alabama Cuthbert, Fulton, Grundy,
Hubbard, King, Linn, Lumpkin, Lyon, Mexican,
Morris, M uon, Nicholas, Miles, Norvell, Preston,
Rivcs, Rome Robinson, Ruggles, Sewer. Smith, OF
Connecticut. Strange, Tallmidge, Upton Trouer,
Walker, Wall, White, Williams, Wright, Young