Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1838-02-06

Mr. Calhoun. ! shall be glad to meet the Senator on
that question; for, if ever there was question noou'
which | had perfect confidence, it is that so ini
from augmentng, it will diminish, no, only Executive
patronage but that Of the Government genernIiy, more
than any other measure. | will discuss that qnes
ton now; but, when il will, stand Prepaeu 'e
make good my ground.
ltwus formerly urged by the Senator from Kentucky
that this measure would dsunon; but as It ou
Of order now, suppose, to speak OF d'suno' Il 10 e'
fore urged by the Senator that VIII cause cohs"
dalion Sir feel equal confidence IN my aoiIl'y 10 'nee
this question: as 10 meet the other:
But the Senator says the Slate Legislatures are IN es
sion and wishes hear further the expression OF pubic
sentiment This is reason for progressing with lie
BILL Let us.arrue here and let arguments got lhe
States nro and con; we discuss the subject better
than the States necessarily possessed OF lul
normulion and before we come tot decision, most OF
the State Legislatures will have adjourned HE Polltl.
cal friends of the Senator in the Legislatures would
doubt not like be enlightened by his views on the sub
rcl But there other reasons for proceeding nj once
The state OF and the business Of the country
demand nm curly decision.
But the Senator complains hat the order OF business
has been reversed: that great measures, formerly Orgy
mated only in The House, originates IN the Be-
nate The Senate is smaller body; and, from inc ne
cessity of the case it has-iaken The lead Inc sena'e
formerly with closed doors on legislative as wen az
executive business; and if the Senator'S argument Is
good they should do now. But The Senate Is more
numerous and popular now than 1t was then. nope
the bill will be taken up and let the argument proceed,
u
all The information which the Senator desires we can
wait for The decision, and let The arguments 60 on
Mr. Clay sad the honorable Senator with vast deal
Of plaCency ayows his readiness at all uHes ~
NEE, and repe arguments from any quarter o. '.ie
points to which he has alluded. Sir, IT, is not my hant
TO give challenges in advance bu, the Senator may rest
assured that with whatever ability ne may prove the'e
is 10 augmentation of Executive patronage by TINS inca
sure, think far less ability may prove Tue cnntary'
when the question comes up; aud that consultation,
also Of the powers Of lie Government Is necessary
consequence of the measure under consideration sna
not enter into the argument now; all my argument IS
designed show the vast importance OF The measure
md 10 invite the Senate TO wait The expressions Of OPP
mons which We have cause 10 expect from all quarters
Of the Union.
But the Senator thinks ought not to wait but srst
arue the subject here and send out Our opinions 10 Tue
jury Of The country. But suppose Senator c"n"i's
himself for against the and instructions COME
directing him To take the opposite c"urse what Is ne
do them Musl he lake back his argument ana eat HIS
words: No. Sir let inquire and get our instructions
in the good old way. and let obey them Let US not
conm; ourselves one way or The other, I'LL we ieaS to
constituents.
Mr. C. again urged thai important measures ought 70
originate. formei v, i'll the other House.
He would make motion 10 delay this bill, md no
objection to Mr. llubhnrds motion. Ii The irIrnGs "i
this measure said Mr. c. will not wait for further 'nor
nation, let them come on; prepared for lhem
and ready meet their rcd"uhabe champion lr"n
South CarOiiun and 10 shuyv that the tendency OF THIS
measure is the liberties OF the people, and 10
give to one the powers of The Government.
The Senator says it is not now in order to speak OF
disunon; und h. does that this can lead
both consolidation and observance. Sir said al the
las, session. and repeat thaith want OF Uniform
currency is unavoahe TO union and lis tendency is IN
friendly It's existence; and say, also, that cpEsoda
ton is result IF this measure that is dangerous and
destructive the Uninn because II will appear that II 10
runous the best interests o the country and desl1uc.
tive.
As to the Senator's readiness 10 rcpcl arguments
,Jo ci,rn oriSn trpa slIO n
the country. every nIprt udIced man. that the con.
sequences which have mentioned will cnsue from this
Sir lie, the motion of the Senator from New Flamp
shire prevail! il the friends Of this not dis
pused to wait and eaT rom the high authorities that
now considering IT, and let them pecp!late themselves
down the road to ruin in whch they proceeding the
ruin not only of the Administration, but OF the counry
ready 10 act Tor ieT salvation IN The pest man
we can.
Mr. Hubbard said that. if he understood the Senator
from Kentucky, he would make further election TO
the adoption OF the motion which he had made To post.
ppne previous orders for the purpose CT taking up,
for consideration, the Subj treasury b Gas Il had been
call-d) At the time, the Senator said he would
appeal 10 The friends Of this bill to their asse Mt TO
further postpouenen of this measure and he had sub.
ntted the which ought, in his Judgment TO in.
duce the irienCs Of this measure 10 comply GIti his re-
Guest, lie had altenlively heard those reasons; he be-
lie we'd that lie we'll understood them; and, according TO
his pnor understanding. the which he has urged
Tor delay reasons WHICH should lnuuce al ana
an immediate nciiOn RpOR NiS SUBJECT.
The Senator, in stating the Importance Of this mea
sure remarked. "lat all the caames Of war with the
mos, uolent puwer on earth would lie blessing
pared will, The effects Of the upon the country
If this bill is raught with consequences disastrous,
fufal the prosperity Of the country is time thut lis
pregnant evils should be portrayed, and for one he vas
most anxious to have This measure examined and tho.
roughly considered for he had regarded II in an entire.
~ different lh from the Senator from Kentucky; and
tLn iflrIa r
TO the county and ruinous than RcdF ri ne mast p0.
tent pager cartt il was high time that Tie people,
and the representatives OF the people and ut the States,
should be enlightened, that they may discover the
alarming, but hidden evils of this alilmporiaa measure.
The fact stated By the Senator, furnishes reason for
delay bat presents nducemen 0r Immediate ACTION
Another consideration has been named Ivy the Senator
from Kentucky, which he thinks Of sufficient import
ance induce The friends IF this bill 10 postpone it .Ur
the present and that IS, that The Senate should FIRST
ceve information from The Legislatures in session,
before they lake up the bill lie has Informed the Sc
nate that the Legislatures Of number of tic States
are considering this very subject, and thai HE Sc
nate should delay action until these Legislatures are
heard fiom.
The Senator says he wants 10 hear from Richmond
and from Albany before he This suggestion ought
not To- delay the action Of the Senate. There no
certainty that the Legislatures would adopt any definite
resolutions in relation 10 the subject. II they old they
would have and they should have. influence upon the
Of those Senators who might receive instructions
from the people through the State Legislatures. When
instructions arrived he had doubt that they would he
treated by The members of this body with all the respect,
which they would be entitled. TIE qnstion is should
the fact nj The tendency of this subject before the Stale
Legislatures deter the Senate from perfnrmng lis duty
The discussion here on this interesting subject may have
an influence elsewhere. He wns lnr going forward to
d. what ough, 10 be DONE and leave the action and the
consequences of The action of The Senate for the cuns
dernlion aud Judgment of The people.
The Senator from Kentucky hus urged as further
reason why the Senate ought not proceed, that
this bill should have originated in The House Of Repre-
senaiivrs
Ihe Senator says that things Of late seem greatly
changed; that the Senate OF the United States recently
has hecrne The originator OF important measures, which
10 lie people! that The long settled and
approved practice n the legislative branches Of the Co.