Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1836-02-06
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M ABoLirioN RESOLUTIONS.
The debates of Tuesday aud "Wednesday were chief
confined to questions of order and parliame aw mud
practice We have omitted as much of the discussion
Oil those topics, could without rendering the detail
OF proceedings and debate difficult to be understood
Mr. WATKINS said he believed that one of the reslu
uons reported by the majority had been adopted lie
now moved that all the subsequent resolutions of the
maoritys report be stricken ont and he avoed his in
ento subsequently, TO that the resolutions of the
minority be adopted. lie greatly preferred the latter
ath"ngh ne did not entirely approve of them but the
ne desired that they should be substituted the resou
lions OF The majority. lie would take occasion 10 say.
mat ne uered from the Speaker in his Interpretation OF
Tue RUE, being of opinion that this subject not sus
ceptible of division.
The srsAKER referred to the Parliamentary law, to
support his decision.
MIR WArKINs said he thought the Parliamentary law
was intended 20 facilitate the business Of Legislative boz
dies but Parliamentary law intended prevent
oy tck aud chlcanery the arrival decision upon pro
positions before the House, the sooner they rot rid of
sHc laws and returned TO common sense, the better
s ne was desifous oil giving different their pro-
ceedngs he would ask if he had right withdraw the
motion 10 amend, now under consideration
Inc SPEAKER said he had n right 10 withdraw the mn.
uon, with the consent Of The House.
Mr. WATKINS further said his object was 20 act nj Tho
business and to place it in such train afford rea
sonable hope that decision would be had in moderate
space oi unej but he trammeed by rules Of or
aer and lttlc books called manuals that ii WINS almost
Impossible to tell what his rights WERE or indeed whe.
'her hc had any rights at all Io wished TO with.
draw Tins resolution offered substitute by the gentle
man from Meckcnburg and then TO move TO strike out
VIC i"HJ"i'y report ana Ciier the resolutions
norlty instead.
Mr. SrANARD opposed the withdrawal of the amend
ment and concnded that according TO the fixed cs,ob
iished parliamentary rule upon that subject prooo-
sIuon before the House could not be withdrawn but bv
the consent Of the House. He alluded to cnse which
u occurred IN late Convention held in this State 10
es'aD'ish ths position He also referred TO an occur
renee IN The House few weeks since when the nom
Der nom Rock bingham offered amendment to the Ex-
pnnglng Resolutions. 1t then agreed by tho House
that an amendment could not be Withdrawn when once
IN The possession of the House. and the Speaker raed
That decision Mr. StanaTd also defended the Uroore
~ oil considering the resolutions Seriatm propound-
ing question upon each, and while qnestion upon
one was prnc.ng The others more before the
House than any other subject He argued that This W.,
the only means by which fair proceedings could be had
by which distinct decision OF each question ptobound
cd could be obtained, and by which deception of the
public could be prevented. He demonstrated AGAINST
The attempt TO overthrow the established right of every
member, against the wish OF all the rest 10 have tho
question divided aud 10 obtain the opinion of every in
uVuua IN me House on each separate proposition He
protested against the destruction this which
had been Tor centuries the guardian of the rights of mem
bers, 10 enable gentleman to present some eoht r ,o
questions mingled together without the possibility Of
expressing an opinion any separate from the other
The question before the House could not bc withdrawn
without The consent Of every one who if the question
it before the House. s
Mr. s. then continued his remarks upon the lex parln
nehra 10 shew u'at wIie this question before the
House. no new question could he but that this
must be disposed Of before another question TOUCHING
another subject, could be put.
The SPEAKER said that the gentleman from Richmond
was perfectly correct, so far he went motion can
De Withdrawn by unanimous consent, without putting
tie question on It's withdrawal But if member object
ed, and the question putt the House the majority
would decide it, The Speaker read the manual TO shev
ial any hcnner mad night to put the question the
iGuse, IN ease objection to the withdrawal was made
Therefore, if the question could be put-wbo souId de-
eide 1T !: The majority, OF course
Mr. MILLER suggested, that perhaps the gentleman
from GoochIand would obtain his object Nv ,novin
the entire series OF the resolutions of the minority as
substitute for the second resolution of the macrit and
no rid nj Tho hatnt al.
tons, by moving to strike them out
Mr. WATKINS said he feared in that case that come
one would come upon hiG with division of the oues
ion. Inc gentleman from Richmond had told them
that The object Of the rule was that every man NAV have
vote on his own favorte proposition-that was what
MIR. w. wanted, and he had offered the n,otion HI,
could not get his vete He wished to strike out the
majority resolutions and offer those of tho minertv
they might amend them as much they plcased-but
ne could not get decision that question IL seemed
That the rights of members were somehow under tL;,
parliamentary law, unequal II he offered TO strike ouf
'he whoIe series oil The committees resolutions, some
gentleman moves 10 ;.viIe the question; snd he has
rghttoa vote on his proposition but have not ruht
10 yoe on my motion embracing the whole, though
the whole did not include the part He wished io he
to vote the propositions lac offered whe her tbev ro
adopted or not because he considered il his duty to make
them; and II the parliamentary law precludcd that object
lac should wish such law repealed
MIR HoLLEMAN enquired whether it yyould be in order
to make motion according the suggestion of the Gen
teman from Botetourt, (Nlr Ner0 TO strike out the Sc
cond resolution of the committee aud insert as nanv ms
they pleased by way Of substitute
Mt HARRisOE said he wished 10 know something
more as 10 the leave TO withdraw. He thought some
uing dropped from tie gentleman from NorIhauplon
yesterday winch iniimaed that the ren Of the maorv
of the committee weaving web i'm which 10 on
tanglc their opponents. Those with whom MIR A nc.ed
wished 10 DO every thing necessary this subiect hat
they did not wish 70 be trnmmclled and called TO order AT
every notion Thy wanted clbOw-room TO net unou t,,
whole subject II they adopted The second resolution of
INC cOmmitiee they must adopt the third also because IL
followed as coroilary. Whenever they ATTEMPTED to
discuss the whole series, they called to order
The SPEAEER. No, sr--the Chair has decided tbat
WhcTe the resolutions arc Connected they cgu all be dis
cussed while one IS particularly before the House
Mr. GiLMER did not see any ground Tor the fears ~
pressed by c gentleman from Harrison as 10 the
tons Of order in this House lie was sure that he mi
notlty OF tho committee the Sneaker of tho Uousc Ind
given him no grounds for fear They were In the mn
Jofiy Of the ilouse-they ia fvor Of the minority
report ana They much stronger allies than Che ma
Joniy OF the committee could count upon The eenfie
man from harrison says that the gentleman from North
amton and others are weaving web entrap him and
his friends ]. said MIR. g., have seen no such indca
ton; and let tell the gentleman chat if such at AZ
tempt were made, 1t might share the fate of Penelope
web what was woven IN the day, might be raveled ov
otnight. But I've says that he wants ebow-roon. ILL.,,
much ehow-room does the gentleman want 1 sbould
suppose That he had enough for any straight forward
movement. for facing 60 the Tiqht and the len
and that The rules Of order would sustain him Mr. Z;
sorry to hear these remarks for tbev seemed IN c
made m an invidous spirit lie had hopod that The
should act with harmony upon this subject and as tc
only dherence was as TO the mcans that they could 90 for
wad To attain Their object without falling ont by the way
Let Hc say said MIR G. that there is no difference u,,
this subject among the people, they are united In
TO It, We, sand MIR q come here with our orders from,
the people, and Tor one, hope that they will speedily be
execGtcd
Mr. srASAnD had one remark to make, in reply 70 the
H.