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to YOU a despatch which his excelIency
The Minister Of Foreign Affairs had ad.
dressed TO me on the l7th ofJune plevi-
GUS, respecting the state Of the relations
between France and the United States,
The object of this communication was to
make known TO the Cabinet Of Washing
ton, in form often employed, the point
ofview from which the Kings Govern
ment regarded the difficulties between
thetwo countries, and TO indicate the
means by which, in its opinion, they
might be terminated in manner honora
BILE to both Governments. was also au
thorized to allow you, in case you should
desire it to take a copy of this despatch;
but, contrary to the expectation which
diplomatic usage in such cases permitted
me to entertain, you thought proper to re
fuse to request it.
| regretted this resolution Of yours, sir,
at the time, because, in the first place, it
appeared to be at varience with ( (s'ecdrter
deg that conciliatory spirit which SO par
ticularly characterized the communica
tiOn just made TO you and next, as it seem
ed in manner to deprive the Cabinet Of
Washington Of the means Of knowing, in
their full exte mt, the views of the Kings
Government, Of which an attentive exam
lnation Of the Duke de Broglle's letter
could alone have enabled it to form just
estimate. These regrets, sir, have not di
mnlshed, and at the moment when the
President is about to communicate 10 Con
gress the state Of the relations between
France and the United States, consider
it useful and necessary, for the interests
Of all, ID endeavor to place him In posses
sion of all the facts which may afford him
the means Of giving an exact account of
the real dispositions and views of the
Kings Government on the subject Of the
existing difficulties.
, With this intention, and from desire
to neglect nothing which, by offering to
the American Government another oppor
tumty of making itself acquainted miOule
Iy with the highly coucilatory sentiments
of His Majesty's Government, may con-
tribute to restore good understanding be
tween the Cabinets OF PARIS and Wash
ington, have the honor to transmit TO
you copy of the Duke de Broglie's de
spAtch, and to request you 10 place it un
der the eye of the President.
Iembrace this opportunity, sir,Ho re-
new to you the assurance of the high con
slderation with which have the honor,
&c.
nACTIkT
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hands. If This expectation is disap.
pointed, you must ask for your pass
ports, and return to the United States.
lfne movement has been made on the
part OF France, and no intimatiou Civ
en- to you, or to the banker OF the u
nited States, who is the authorized a
gent ofthe Treasury, TO receive the
instalmehts due, of the time that pay.
ment will be made, you are istructed
TO call upon the Duke de Broglie, and
request to be informed what are the
iatentiOns Of the Government in rela
ton to it. stating that you do so by or
derS of your Government, and with a
view TO regulate your conduct by the
information you may receive from
him. In the present agitsteI state
of France, it is the particular desire
of the President that your application
should be made in the most conciiato
ry tone, and your interview with the
Duke marked by expressions as com.
ing from your Government, of great
personal respect for that Minister, and
of an anxious desire for the safety of
the King of France, If the Duke
should inform you that the money is
to be paid on any fixed day, you will
remain 10 France; otherwise you will
apply for your passports, aud state the
reason to be that the treaty of indem
nifty has not been executed by France,
The President especially directs that
you shall comply with these instruc.
lions SO early, that the result may be
known here before the meeting of Con
gresS, which takes place on the 7th of
December next.
lam sir, your ohedieut servant,
JOHN FORSYTH.
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] am, sir your Obedint servant,
JOHN FORSYTH.
No 2 --M, Forsyth to Mr., Bar
DEPARTMENT. or STATE,
Washington, Sep,. II, 1895

Washington, Sep. ii, 1885
Thomas 7. Barton, Esq, Sc. SC &c.
Sra; So much time have elapsed
btfore this despa'ch can reach you,
since the passage Of the law by the
French Chambers placing at the dis.
position Of the King the funds 10 fuIfl
Ihe treaty with The United States, that
IL is presumed the intention of the
French Government will have been
by that period disclosed. 1t is prop
er, therefore, in the opinion Of the
President thai you should receive your
last instructions 10 relation 10 il. Il
has always been his intention that the
Legation OF the United States should
leave France ifthe treaty were mol
fulfilled. You have been suffered TO
remaIn after the departure Of Mr.. Liv
ingdon, under The expectation that the
Government Of France would find in
oil that has occurred lis Obligation TO
proceed forthwith, TO the fulilment Of
Il as soon As furds were placed in It's
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ANDREW JACKSON.
WASHINGTON, January Is 1886.
No. l.--Mr, Forsyth TO Mr.. Barton.
DEPARTMNT OF STATE }

0uuV GCg 1000 j
Thomas P. Barton ESQ. &c &c.
Sir: Mr.. Livingston arrived here
the day before yesterday. BY the
tnail ofysStereay your letter Of the 7h
May, with copy of Mr.. Livingston's S
fast note to the Duke de BrOgIie was
received.
After an attentive examination of
Mr.. LivingstOn's correspondence with
ahis Department and the Government
of France, elucidated by his verbal ex
plantations, the President has directed
me to say 10 you that the Messrs. de
Rolhschild have been authorized by The
Treasury Department 10 receive the
money due under the treaty with
France. OF this authority they will
be directed TO give notice to the French
Government, without demanding pay
ment, For yourself, you will, if the
bill of indemnity is rejected, follow
Mr. Livingston to the Uni'ed States.
If the money is placed at The disposal
-Orthe King, conditionslly, by the leg
islalure Of France, you will await fur.
ther orders from the United States,
but maintain guarded silence on the
subject Of the indemnity. If ap
preached by the G government ofFrsnce
directly or indirectly, you will hear
what is said without reply, state what
has occurred in full 10 the Department
and await its instructions, 1t is the
desire ofthe President that you will
make not even a reference to the sub.
ject OF the treaty in your intercourse
with the French Government, until
the course intended 10 be pursued is
definitely explained to the United
States, Whatever may be said to The
Meessrs. do Rolhschild, il will be
their duty 10 report 10 you as well as
TO the Treasury Department, and
whenever they converse with you
they must be reminded that it is ex.
pected that they will wait for express
notice from the Government of France
thatit is ready TO pay before an appli
cation for pay nent is made.
The course adopted by Mr. Living
s'on has been fully approved, and the
hope is INDUCED, lhat his representa-
tious have had their just Influence on
ahe councils Of The King of France,
However that may be, the Presidents
determination is. that The terms upon
whch the two Governments are to
stand towards each other snail be reg
ulaled, sofar as his constitutional pow
er extends by France.
A packet from the Treasury addres
sed 10 lhe Messrs de ROtbschild, and
containing the instructions of the Sec
relary, accompanied by Especial pow
er appointing them the agents of The
United States 10 receive the payments
due under the treaty of 1891, is for
warded herewith. The copy Of a let,
ter from this Department to Mr.. Pa.
geotis also enclosed for your peru,
sal.
am, sir your obednt servant,
IOIIM CnuSV,pLI
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JOHN FORSYTH.
No. s.-M. Pageot to Mr.. Forsyth,
TRANSLATION,
WASHINGTON, June 30, 1881
10 the Hon. Mr., FoRsYTH,t
C,.,,I,,., oc CfoJo,

~'
SIR: have received the letter which
you did me the honor to address TO me
this day, and by which you communicate
10 me, for the information ofmy Govern
ment, that the Secretary of tho Treasury
in virtue Oft the act of Congress of July
18th, 1882, has appointed MessIs. de
Ro'hschild, Brothers, at Paris, agents for
receiving, as they become due, the seve'
raj payments of the sum stipulated as in
Identification, by the convention conclud
ed on the 4th July, 1881, between His
Majesty the King of the French aud the
United States Of America.
| lost no time, sir, in transmitting this
communication to my Government; and
| embrace this opportunity to offer you
the assurance of the bigh consideration
with which have the honor to be, your
most humble aud obedient servant,
A, PAGEOT.
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No. 4-We Duks de Brog1se to
Mr.. Burton.
TRANSLATION J-E.
PARIS, October 26, 1885 !
TO Th)mas p. Barton,
.--- IL n -

Charge FAGaireS ofths U S.
SrR: | have received the letter
which you did me the honor to adj.
dress 10 me on the 24lh Of this month.
You are desirous 10 give your Gov.
ernment faithful account of the con.
versa,ion which you had with me on
the 20th; while communicating 10 ME
q statement of that conversation, you
rfquest me to indicate the involuntary
errors which | may remark in it. 4
appreciate the motives which inGu
ence you, and the importance which
you attend 10 the exactness Of this
statements; and | therefore hasten to
point pui three errors which have
found tseir way into your report, ac.
knowledsing, at the some time, its
perfect conformity on all other points
with the explanations interchaOgod
between us.
10 reply to your question-Vhe-
ther the Kings Government s0ouid
name any fred and deIcrminedpe
riod al t0hich ii a00uid be disposed
10 pay the tIOenty fUe millions? you
make me say, "lo.morrow, if neces
sary; when the Government Of the U.
States shall by a written official com
munication, have expressed its regret
at the misunders' anding which has la
ken place between the two Govern
ments; assuring Us that this misunder
standing is founded on an error, thai
it did not intend to call in question the
good faith of his Majesty's Govern
ment," &c. &c.
Now, this is what | really said:--
"To morrow, TO day, Immediately, if
the Government of the United States
is ready On its part TO declare to us,
by addressing its claim (reciamotiOn)
to US officially in writing, that il re-
grets the misunderstanding which has
risen between the two countries; that
il never entered into its intention
(penSee) 10 call in question the good
faith Of the French Government, nor
10 take a menacing attitude towards
France"
BY the terms of your report, | am
made 10 have continued thus: sin the
despatch TO NJ. Pageot, we gave the
views our government on this ques.
iion. Mr. Forsyth, not having thought
proper to accept copy of that des.
patch,' and having said that the Gov
ernment of the United States could
not receive the communication in that
form," sc. That's not what said,
because such was not the language Of
Mr.. Forsyth to NJ. Pageoi, On re-
fusing the copy offered to him by that
Charge d'AGaires, Mr.. Forsyth gave
as the only reason, that 1t Das a doc
ameRt Of sOh'ch he could make no
use, and that was the phrase repeated
by me.
Mr.. Forsyth made no objection TO
The form which had adopted 10 com
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municate 10 the F ederal, Government

municate to the Federal, Government
tbs views Of the the Kings Govern
ment; 10 fact, not only is there moth
ing unusual in that form, not only is
it employed ia the intercourse be-
tween one Government and another,
whenever thare is a desire TO avoid
the irritation which might involuuta.
rily arise from an exchange Of contra.
dictory notes in direct controversy,
but reflection on the circumstances g.
The respective positions of the two
countries will clearly show that it was
chosen precisely in spirit of concil
iation and regard for the. Federal gov
ernment.
Finally, sir, after having said, "gf
the Government of the United States
does not give this assurance, we shall
be obliged to think that this misuu.
dersladding is not the result Of an er.
ror," | did not add, Hand the business
will stop there" This last error is,
however, of SO little importance, that
| hesitated to noticegit.
Receive, sir, the assurance Of my
high consideration.
" RROGTJE
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A. PAGEOT..
No, lO.-Mr. Forsyth to NJ. PGgeOt'
DEPARTMENT OF STATE,l
WashinSltnn Dec g IhHN

Washington Dec. 3, 1855
SIR: had yesterday The honor to re
ceive your note Of the lst instant, with
the accompanying paper, supporting to
be a copy of letter, addressed, under
date of the l7ih of June last, by his eS
cellency TO the Duke de Broglie, Minister
Of Foreign Affairs of France to yourself
After referring to what occurred in our
interview ofihe llth of September, in re.
gard to the original letter, and expressing
your regrets at the course then felt it my
duty to take, you request ne to place the
copy enclosedi in ) our letter under the eye
of the President.
In allowing you, during that interview
to read to me the Duke dc Droglie's de
spatch, which | cheerfully cid, you were
enabled to avail yourself orthat informal
mode of aPprizing this Department of
the views of your Government in the full
extent authorized By diplomatic usage,
The question whether or moi should ask
IA copy OF that despatch, was Of course,
left as it should have been by your Gov
ernment, exclusively to my discretion,
My reasons for not making that request
we're frank ly stated TO you, founded on a
conviction that, in the existing state of
the relations between the two countries,
1he President would think it most proper
that every communication upon the sub
Ject in difference between them, designed
to influence his conduct, should, before it
was submitted to his consideration, be
made to assume the oflicia form belong
ing TO direct communication from one
Government to another, oy which alone
he could be enabled to cause suitable
reply 10 be given to it, and to submit it
should such a step become necessary, to
his associates in the Government. l had
also the honor, of the same time, to as
sure you, that any direct communication
IRON yourself, as the representatives Of
the Kings Government, to me embra
cIng the contents OF this despatch, or any
other matter you might be authorized TO
communicate in the accustomed mode
would be laid without delay before the
President, and would undoubtedly receive
from him an early aud just consideration,
1t cannot have escaped your ref fec
tions that my duty required that the
circumstances of the interview be.
tween US should be reported TO the
President, and that the discovery Of
any error on my part in representing
his views OF the course proper to be
pursued on that occasion would with.
out fail, have been promptly co mmu
ncated 10 you. That duty was per.
formed. The substance Of our inter
view, and the reasons by which my
course in il had been guided, were i'm
mediately communicated TO, and en-.
lirely approved by, him. ] could not
therefore, have anticipated that, after
so long period had elapsed, and with
out any change in the condition OF af'
fairs, YOU should have regarged 1t as
useful or proper TO revive the subject
at the time and in the form you have
seen tit to adopt. Cordially recipro.
eating, however, the concilatory sen.
timenis expressed in your note, and in
deferencel to your request, have a.
gain consulted the President on the
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v. BROGLIE.
mo. 7.-Mr Forsyth to H. PageOs,
DEPARTMENT OF STATE,l
tW,eb;no,on lima OQih 1G9S (

washington, June %Jlili lCoO,
M PAGEoT, Charge d'AfaireS &C. &c.
SIR; | have The honor to acquaint you,
forthe Information Of your Government,
that the Secretary Of the Treasury has, in
conformity with the provisions Of the act
of Congress of the 18th July, 1882, desig
mated the Messrs. de RothschiId, Brothers
Of Paris, as agents 10 receive the pay.
monts from time to time due 10 this Gov
ernment under the stipuatlons Of the con
vention of4th July, 1881, between the U
nited States and His Majesty the King Of
the French; and that the President has
granted a special power 10 the said Mcssrs
dc Rothschild, Brothers, authorizing and
empowering them, upon the due receipt
of the same, 10 give the necessary acquit
tances TO the French Governms accor
ding to the provisions Of the Convention
referred to. .
The power given TO the Messrs. dc
RothschiId will be presented by them
whenever The French Government is ready
to make the payments.
have the honor to be, sir, your obedi'
ent servant,
JOHN FORSYTH.
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snd am instructed 10 inform
you thai the opinion expressed by mo
in the interview between US, and Sub. =
seeuenty confirmed by him, remains
unchanged; and i therefore respectful.
y restore to you the copy Of The Duke
de Broghe,s letter, as / cannot make
The use Of it which you desired.
am also instructed TO say that The
President enterlains decided convic.
ton that adepartare, in the presents
case from the ordinary Ont accustom
ed method Of International com munics
tioa is calculated 10 increase, rather
than to diminish, the difficulties un.
happily existing between France al d
the United States, and that its obser-
vance in their future intercourse will
be most likely to bring about the ami. +,
cable adjus,men! of those difficulties
on terms honorable to both parties.
Such results sincerely desired by
him; and he will omit nothing consis
tent with the faithful discharge of his
duties 10 the United States, by which
it may be promoted. In this spirit |
am directed by him TO repeat to you
the assurance made in our interview
IN September last, that any official
communication you may think proper
to address TO this Government, will
promptly receive such consideration
as may be due to its contents, and TO
TIE interests involved ia the subject to
which it may refer.
AS the enclosed paper is not con. q
sidered the subject of reply, you will
allow me to add, for the purpose ofpro
venting any miscOnception in this re.
spect, that my silence in regard 10 its
contents is not 10 be construed as adj.
miltng the accuracy of any of the
statements or reasonInss contained 10
it.
| have the honor 10 renew, &c.
JOHN FORSYTH.
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v. BRoGLIE.
No. s, Mr.. Barton to Duke de BrOglie
f.

t.
LEGATION OF THE U. S. OF AMERICA,
PARIS, November 6, 1885.
Monsieur lie Due; Having been recall.
led by my Government, have thehonor
to request that your excellency will be
pleased to cause passports to be prepared
10 enable me to proceed to Havre, thence
10 embark for the United States, and for
my protection during the time may find
it necessary to remain in Paris. am
Instructed to give as reasBn for my de
partnre the non execution sn the part Of
His Majesty's Government: of the con-
vention of July 4lh 1881.
laval mysclfof this opportunity, Mon.
sieur le Due, TO renew the, assurances OF
very high consideration with which |
have the honor to be your excelency's
mos. obedient humble servant.
THOS P BARTON.
His Excol'cy the Dixie De Broglie.
Minister Of Foreign Affairs, &c.
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No, 6.-THe Duke de Broglie to Mr.. Bar
ton.
TRANSLATION
To Mr.. BARTON, Charge d 49ares
ofthc United States Of America:

10 Mr.. BARTON, ChdrSe 4DdTeS
ofthc United States of America:
PARIS, November 9Th, 1885
SIR: Having taken his Majesty's or
ders with regard to your communication
of the 9Th instant, have the honor to send
you herewith The epassports which YOU re
qussted of me. As to the reasons which
you have been charged to advance, in ex
planntion of your departure, | have no.
thing to say, lie mai poinI a my Grreter. }
Tho Government of the United States,
sir, knows that upon itself depends hence
forward The execution Of the treaty of Ju
Iy 4lh, 1881.
Accept, sir the assurance Of my high
consideration,
v. BROGLIE.
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have the honor 10 renew, &c.
JOHN FORSYTH.
No. I'm PageN 10 Mr. Forsyth.
TRANSLATION
To the Hon, JOHN FoRsYTH,
Coon,o r out. TT

w dsulnSton, Btc' D. 1000 y
SIR: | yesterday evening received
the letter which you did me the, honor
TO write 10 me on the Sd Of this month
with'it, your return to me the copy
of despatch which had transmitted
10 you two days before, aed the origi-
nal of which was addressed 10 me on
the I7h Of June last, by his excelIen-
cy the Minister Of Foreign Affairs.
| will not seek, sir, 10 disguise from
you the astonishment important in the
present state of the relations between
the two countries; neither will / un-
dertake to reply to the reasons on
which this determination OF yours IL
based. My intention in commuuica.
ting this document you, in form
not only sanctioned by the diplomatic
usages of all nations and all ages, but
also the most direct which could pos
sibIy have chosen, was 10 make known
the real dispositions of my Govern
ment 10 the President of the United
States, and through him 10 Congress
aud the American People; coneeiV,ng
that the existing situation Of the two
countries, it was essential that each
Government should fully comprehend
The intentions of The other. This con
sideraticn appeared to me paramount
to all others. You have judged her.
wise, sir; and you have thought that,
whatever might be the importance of
a communication, it was proper, be.
fore receiving It, to examine whether
the form in which il came TO you
were strictly accordant with the usa.
ges necessary, in your opinion, 10 be
observed in diplomatic transactions
with the Government Of The Republic.
| will not insist farther ] have fulfil
led all the duties which appeared to be
prescribed for me, by the spirit Of re
conCiliaton in conjunction with the
respect due by me TO all communica-
tions from my Government; and no
thing more remains for nv, than 10 ex
press my deep regret that the misun-
derslanding between two Governments
already so serious, should be kept up,
not by weighty difficulties which in
yolve the interests and the dignity of
The two countries, bat by questions of
form, as uncertain in their principlea as
doubtful in their application.
| havethe honor, sir, 10 renew TO
you the assurances Of my high consi6e
ration.
A. PAGE0F.
No. l2.-M. Pdgeot 10 Mr. Forsyth.
TRANSLATION.
Washington, Jan.s 1886.
To the Hon. Mr.. JOHN FoRsYTH,(
Secretary 0fState:
SIR: I have the honor to announce
to you that, IN consequence Of the
recall of Mr.. Barton, the Kings Gov
ernment has given me orders to lay
down the character of Charge d'Af
faires Of His Majesty near the Gov
ernment Of the United States. shall
therefore Immediately begin the pre-
parations for my return to France but
in The mean time; think proper TO
claim the protection. Of the Federal
Government during the period which
Imay consider il necessary to remain
10 the United States.
/ have the honor 10 be, with the
most distinguished consideration, sir,
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No, ON Pdgeot to Mr. Forsyth.
[TRANsLATIoN.l

WAsIAK NJ AO4VR AWN' y AOVV
10 the Hon, JOHN FoRsYTH,i
Secretary ofState of tho United States:
SIR; On the l lth Of September last |
had the honor, as | was authorized to read