Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1836-03-10
TWenGY-fOaasass a;ssslSrcss--ast sess::
s SATURDAY,, March ,
The Senate did not SIT today
~. HOUSE OF KEPRESEN FATlQES..

oan,a.,sI oIcc,on Tb n,r.,i,u being on the motion
Of Mr. Hard to allow the pcti:"nrr Da''u -.."Ia
place within the bar Of the House, anu rs ~
address The House in Ais own BEHALF WINCH not' WI
pnun had ,ovcd so 10 amend 10 permit the petition
err 10 be heard by COUNSEL on the main question. -
Mr. Renchcr was in favor (he sadly OF the amend
ment, and mentioned The iac', tnat lne pI'o"er liau a.
rs,dr emnIoyed counsel in daily attendance upoa the
committee: and if counsel heard before the commit
lee he could not why II should not be before the
Honse Ile agreed with bis colleague, that it bet
ter for the members TO hear the arguments Of others
than to engage themselves counsel upon the oppoS
ing sides He Would grant the request, because the
gentleman desired it; and he would be in favor OF a.
lowing counsel to the sitting menber also, he thought
it would he for his benefit.
Mr. Griffin called for the yeas and nays on the mo-
ton to amend aud they were ordered.
The question being taken the amendment was REJECT
ed; yeas 81, nays liz.
The question being then the motion OF the gentle
man from New York, (Mr. llardO
Mr.. Bynum expressed his dsapprobation OF the vote
rejecting the amendment, aud declared 1t violation OF
the inconestible right Of the petitioner. .
The Speaker said the gentleman was out OF order I?
discuss reflect upon The vote. .... 80.
Mr.. Bynum continued 1t was his purpose to- Show,
the reason why he should vote against the resolution
He thought if the House ELECTED one motion, they
should the other. The sitting member had been heard
twice in his BEHALF but the petitioner had not been
heard once. lie would add that The sitting member had
acquaintance in this House OF three years standIng
but the petitioner was entirely unknown, and would not
be able meet his adversary upon the floor with the
necessary conness delibcratun and ability as speaker,
necessary to do justice to hisel or to contend against
his opponent The proposition, besides, came from an
opponent and he was afraid of the favor Of an enemy,
especially when he brought forward as pretended
friend He considered the rejection of counsel as de-
NAL of right and called upon the mechanics farmers
and merchants Of the country TO recollect tins vote
Mr. Hardin said this proposition TO permit the
petitioner appear his own defence but not 10 conf
pei him argue before the llonsc lie was IN favor Ut
allowing the petitioner The privilege and, he was not
ILL.,. fng mo nhnrs lp rDul1 not
doubt would do him Justice themselves. The House
would act in double capacity, partly as counsel, and
partly rs court. .
What was the proposition Of the gentleman from n.
Carolina. was asked by Mr.. II. ], was because the
House would not hear COUNSEL that il should not admit
the petitioner himself lie (r Harding wished to place
both competitors equality, and would vote to the
resolution.
Upon the proprcty of hearing counsel he would add
but little He opposed il, not because lie did not wish
to hear all the information, ana receive all the light that
nnht be shed upon the subject; but BECAUSE when any
one spoke upon this floor apun great constitutional qurs-
tons he wished him to feel member of the House,
and be impressed with such Of respect, deco
rum and responsibility, members alone can feel. lie
did not think the proposition came from an enemy, nor
could any member OF the committee be considered an
enemy Of the petitioner IL seemed but fairness Ia a.
low HIM the facility that was Dyed by his
pettur aud those only would vote against the privilege
who looked upon the subject with the views of party
men.
Mr. Hard denied that he had made the motion as q
purity man. and discled all feeling Of hostility towards
either gentleman When the report Of the committee
adopted, he sgniiied his intention the committee
to make the uioton aud it received with assent.
He offered the resolution it fair aid just
wards the petitioner. lie begged to the gentle
man from North Carolinu that he could look ut rncl-
pie and without regard u who the individual might
be, or to what party he was attached
Mr. J. Q Adams was not ia his seat, and had not all
opportunity OF recording his vote upon the amendment
Ii he had been in his seat, he should have recorded his
niA in ily nj Tho. q CLuuse
right of the petitioner aud or the forty thousand ctl
zeus who had sent l;m Representative, that he
should be heard lie (HE Adams) would have voted in
favor OF counsel 1t II were only upon the princiPe,
that the petitioner s ud lie placed upon equal foot
ing with his competitor 'fhe sitting member is known
TO be an able member Of thu House, while the petition
er is said by his friends not able to appear and ar
que in his own behalf In court Of justice, suppose
on one side the abest lawyer in the land should be
ployed and the other should appear but
practsed Individual who doubts, let the Judges be how
ever upright, intelligent, and impartial they may-who
doubts that the decision would be uinc times in ten in
favor Of the powerful side
NJ: Boon called TO order.
Mr. Adams continued, that lie desired to state the
reason why he il favor of the amendment, and
would immediately to the why he should OPP
pose the proposition before the House offered
substitute tor ta IL question whether the People
have right to send Representative here who not one
Of the first lawyers OF The andwhethcr they have
right 10 elect who may be good III COUNSEL and sound
in Judgment, but who las not the gilt OF tongue. Every
one knows there many members Of the House who
have the gilt Of public speaking but who are among
the abrst and useful both in the House and
mi,tees. The motion before the House would ad.
nit the petitioner plead when his friends say he has
not the faculty The sitting nembc is known 10 all as
fully competent 10 speak ia ms brlali; he has the
faculty Of managing his cause with power, and we
know very we'll that his rival cannot meet him upon
equal terms Admitting him, therefore, far US goes,
places him upon an equality with the sitting member,
and he mir. A. would vote Tor it il il not merely
apsii, I , kt.,r nI IN fhp
but breaks It to the hope, and wis entirely deusve
Still if it desired by the petitioners friends, he
would gladly vote for it; but they rejected merely
u pretence Of enargiEg the gcntle'uans rights, without
the reality and he u.ungh better tell the truth
once and leave the subject in the hands Of the House
Mr. a. disclamed all feeling either for or against either
Of the gentlemen interested he would leave the dcci
sion wisdom of lice House. and should vote against
tile proposition adu,i, the petitioner because IL was
mere illusion OF Justice, without any reality
MIR. Whesey here called for the Orders ct the Day.
The House then proceeded 10 the Orders Of the Day
The unfinished business I'll yesterday resumed,
viz the bill for the relief Of lhomas T. Eskrldse and
Alvarez Fisk.
After some debate in which, SIcssrs. Parker Lincoln
Sewer Boon Finton, Mason OF Virginia, kvnnun, and
Whillesey took par the bill ordered to be reud
third time on Monday.
Monday, March T..
IN SENATE 20"
The Hon r. G. Nicholas announced mem
Der of the Committee on Finance under order p
House, appointed ny Tic Chair, IN the roou OF The Hon.
John Tyler.
The Chair laid before the Senate communication
from The Secretary Of the Navy, transmitting lis, of
contracts made by the Navy Commissioners during the
year 1895. .
Petitions were presented by Alessrs. Brown White,
Buchanan, Goidsborough, fomnson, Benton and Wall.
Mr. Webster, from the Comnittre Finance, report.
ed without amendment bill from the House to author
zc the Secretary OF War 10 transfer part Of the appro.
prations for thH suppression Of Indian hoslcs IL, Flo
rida to the credit OF subsistence which taken up
considered, and ordered to u third reading.
Mr. Webster, from the same committee, reported with
an amendment, bill from the House to provide mode
t,r tho naympn nj of pensioners.