Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1836-02-04


were to give us the right of seeding from the Union and
engaging in with sister States This was the
difference that he (Nlr CO between the resolutions
IL the State sanctioned the proceedings of these fanatics
there would then be resistance; but, he main
famed that the acts of few citizens could not Justify
resort 10 ultra measures.
Mr. Blows said he was still unable TO understand The
gcntemans position. The gentleman talked of civil
and other rights connected with this question lie
admitted that the of the fanatics were an invasion
ot our rights but said they invasion Of the
rights OF the State. What did tho gentleman mean
Did he mean to say that the rights Of Virginia were not
The rights oil the people of Virginia and that the former
might be nterieed with by the abolitionists with inn
punity MIR. Brown would be glad if the gentleman
would explain arther would say whether the obligation
was not as strongly binding upon defend the rights
oi the PEOPLE oil Virginia. the rights of the State OF
Virginia. Would the gentleman explain what disiinc.
uoh nc took between the State and the People, far
as the sndication of our rights upon this subject were
concerned.
MIR. SrAsARD said the objections of the gentleman
from Mecklenburg were now narrowed down to The
words czens thereof" in the resolution of the n,a;or
~ lie contended that the citizens could not invade
our rights Now, he really entertained this objection
what was the obvious course of the gc,.'leman! WHY
TO move 10 strike out tho Objectionable words
Mr.; GARLAND asked if the gentleman FROM Richmond
would consent TO the striking out, if he (Nir. G. made
such motion?
Mr. SrAsARD said, he would lose his right arm rather
than so consent The proposition involved the dearest
OF The people; but his determination had nothing to
10 WIN TIC course the gentleman from Meckicnburp
ought to have pursued. Why did not the gentleman
move IN the regular way to strike out the words TO
osuhct I'D Phraseoiogy and purpose from The resou-
ton OF the majority? The gentleman in his substitute
nad suppressed the declaration this interference OF
me NORTH with our slave property, was violation of
Their constitutional obligation For this be
offered no vindication His only objection TO the re.
souuon OF the majority is that which have stated
ana inns objection he onght to have sought to re.
move IN the ordinary way-by STRIKING ont 1 saw
then, that his departure from the usual course and
ms Offering substitute in which he supprcsses the
declaration that any interference on the part Of
the North will be violation of the Constitution NC
warrants me IN surPosng that such suppression was the
real object lie had IN view in presenting his substitute
AND let me say that the que ston now propouned In The
Rouse by the gentleman from Mcckcnburg u.s. whether
.S uec'a,auoh shall be suPPressed-wheiher the House
Will say that such may be practsed Inv The
North, without violating their constitutional obliGa,ion
ana invading our rights? This is the inevitable
ehce rom the motion OF the gentleman from MeckIon
rurg By rejecting resolution which does contain this
declarations and substituting another which does net
,an IL, you sny most concusvely, that rights to
hold slaves is guaranteed by the Cons,iiron.
and those who for such change will stand
sble to the people for the denial that constitutional
right Sha such a vote be given by this House
Mr.. GARLAND asked if he could withdraw his amend.
mcnt.
The CHAIR replied, that the gentleman from Neck
ienourg could do so by consent of the whole House
Mr GARLAND said he would then request leave 10
withdraw "
Mr.. STASARD said he would not consent tina, the sub
stitute of the gentleman from Mecklenburg az now he
tore the House, should be withdrawn.
Mr.. HOPKINS moved to amend the substitute nv add;po
the words, recognised and guaranteed by the Constitu
ihpn
read ~
"That Virginia alone has the right to lerisl,tc
he slaves IN her territory and any attempt TO chance
their condition. whether made by Congress the Iegisia
lures or the people of other Staes will be regarded as
an invasion Of our rights recognized and guaranteed by
the Constitution " -
After few remarks from Messrs. GAnt,yn md
Brown of r., the motion amend the substitute was
rejected. ""'
Mr. GARLAND then moved to strike out from the 70
solution OF the majority, the words the citizens there
of. ?" ''N'N
Ar PARKER said, if he understood the object of The
gentleman from Meckenburg in moviDr 10 s,r;ko on,
II was TO establish the position that an Interference y
our rights by the citizens of other States was mn i,tr
terence at ALL and therefore that those States had no
right to suppress them He moved the ayes and noes on
the motion. VS.
MIR. GILMER begged the gentleman 10 consider tho Of
lcSt OIL ms amendment The gentleman, said MIR G. is
wlng TO say That Congress has right to Interfere
with the slave property OF the Sou also that the States
nave no such right but lac is prepared say that the
clt2ens nave mol the righthe is prepared TINT
the interference of the citizens would be an nyason S
our constitutional rights.
Mr.. GAnLASD: say they do invade our rights BY
MIR. GILMER: Then the gentleman saws ON, tlioo
with one side OF his mouths aud another thing with the
other What is 1t that he asks have stricken ont p
Why, the words that any interference of The c;,;
OF the other States is invasive of the rehts Of tle
states, and violates the obligations of the Constitu
ton Why, Sir, if lie believes that interference on
the part OF the people of the North would be an in
vasion OF our rights, does he wish the decJaraton
stricken out OF The resolution What will be the
eject OF the gentleman's amendment? He denounceS
the interference of Congress and the States; bn, !,
VIII go TO the world, on the authority of the yir,i.
ma Legislature that the citizens of the non.
ing states may interfere with domestic relations and
mat without tansgressing any constitutional OBLIGATION
bu the gentleman now says sir that the citizens do in
Vace our rights when they associate for the putpose f
aooioh How many must meet, sir, to constitute an
Invasion, IN the gentemans sense of the tern5 will
DC gad 1t he will tell me, for confess do not under
stand his dalccucs. lie has said that the acts of f
cuZens cannot be considered invading our RIGHTS
HOW many, then, ask again, associate tber
before their act is TO be looked upon as itvas;on r.
the gentlemans proposition it appears to me that a ~
cltzens OF any OF the Northern States may emodv tT
selves against us, and yet such a procedure voud mot
DE violation OF our rights, because il would moi Ia an
interference the State. cannot make the difference
sir, which the gentleman does between the whole czc
OF state acung thus and the State itself IL apnears IN
me that thc gentleman sees distinction where mono
ss-lhat ms distinction is without difference All te
citizens of n. Y. may organize themselves md ;norc
with our property, and yet such conduct would no, %
corning TO The gentleman, be an interference of tic
STATE Governor Marcy must put his great seal In tho
deeds OF these midnight assassins before thew can bs
considered as the acts of the State of New YorL
hope when the gentleman more maturclv consdcs ,hd
eject OF his proposition, he will be induced to with
draw it. " WIN
Mr. GARLAND said the distinction between the oc, or
oatc and the acts of its citizens was verv nnn,r, a.
his mind, although it might not be TO that Of liz ,o,Is
man from Albemarle The action of a few ctzc5s mn
sustained oy the Government Of their State could moi
ne was very sure, compromise that State
Mr.. FoSTAINE said he somewhat puzzlcd bv tho
intrcscy Of the subject He agreed thai II ibe d.
raj government, or Of the States iuerGred ,,;G
our rgns, we had right TO consider their acts vola
OF lhe constitution, and to demand redress But N the
citzcn5 OF State guilty of this interference
though they would traDsgrcss the law he did mo, 80,
that we could take the measures against flcn,
he question was then put on Mr.. Garlands motion
ana decided IN the negatiye-Ayes 20, Noes IOs
Mr. HOLLEMAE said he should denrccate a d;,;.;s
vyag