Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1836-02-06
VIRGINIA EIE4rasa1AT'UEgz1-
DEFEKRED DEE.lTE.-[CosriNyED.l
HOUSE OF DELEGATES-7u csdey, jan r.
hBOl.GrIQT RE$ce!-UTi9H;S.

confined to questions OF oytr end parliamentary law and
practice We have omitted mach ot TIE cse':sscns
on those topics as could without rendenng the detail
Of proceedings and drbaic iifrult to be understood
Nr WATKINS said be believed that onr Of the rcsolu.
tGns reported by the ma GRITTY Eco been adop'cd' nc
now moved Lha. all the subsequent resolutions Of the
rIartv's report be- stricken out and he avo"et his m
cn;ion subsequently TIA. the resolutions If the
minority b" adopted. He greatly pFet:rErd tr Ias.rrr
although he did entirely apron If 'rni bvi isy
could be amended hereafter; and under that superstition
he desired that they should be s,b'u1at for tie rrHo!1
lions of the minority. lie World aRe OCCASION to say,
that he differed from the Speaker in Lis Of
the rule, being Of opinion that s!g oSbcci was not sus
| ccptible of division.
The STEAMER referred TO ;!s Parliamentary law, TO
support his decision.
Mr. WATKINS said he thnngl:t the Parliamentary law
was intended facilitate the bpsEcss OF Legislative boz
dies il Parliamentary law !ftea&:t III prevent
by trick and ccarcry the arrival az decsnnuson pro-
positions before TIC House, the they got rid OF
such laws, and returned to common scnse the better
AS he dcsiinus Of giving different urn 10 their pro-
cecdgs, lie would ask if r had rgi to withdraw the
molten to amend now under consideration.
The STEAMER said he had light 10 withtr1w The mo-
| ton, with the consent Ut the House.
Mr.. WATKI&s further said his object % get at tho
business, ard place it in such train 10 afford
sonab!e lupe that decision would be had in moderate
space CT tc; but lie was rammcllch by rn!es Of or
der and little bcnhs called manuals, that ii #Enst
Impossible to tell what his gifts were, !rrd =1e-
Their hl had any rights Il all. He wished 10 With
draw !s resolution offered substitute by the gc';!lc
from Acck|rEhurg, and then 10 more 20 strike out
the majority report and orr tire resolutions OF the mi
nGrity instead.
| Mr.. SrAXAE3 opposed Tic withdrawal Of the amend
nint and coErrndrd that according the fixed cstab
isled parliamentary rule upon that subject, rropo-
son before the House could Mt be withdrawn but by
The consent of the House. He alluded TO which
mad occurred in late Convention lrd in tins State Ia
establish tits pusun lie also referred 10 an occH-
in the House few weeks since, when tho ncrl
om ituckin ham offered amendment to the Es
yunming itrsO!utlons 1t then agreed by the iose,
that amendment conid not tr Withdrawn when
III The possession of the House. aud the Speaker ratified
that decision. Mr.. SIaard also defended the p:uprc
u Of CONSIDERING the resolutions s:TGflm and prnpouid-
my QUESTION upon coch, and lille question upon
pending III" others were no more before the
luusc than any ".cr suSrct lie argued that this was
he only means by which lair proceedings could be hal
by wc! distinct decision t." each question pIop"und-
ID could he o,tan,d and By whc! deception OF the
public could be prevented He demonstrated against
The attempt overthrow the established right Of every
member, against the wish ui all the rest, To have the
lurstio :Iv!rd, and t. obtain the opinion "t every ~
,iIvdua the i.use each separate. prnpDs;.i"n He
,rusc against TIC destruction Of tbs privilege, which
:iad centuries lie guardian oil tic r@!,S OF mem.
,ers enable gentleman 10 pcs,'n. ght ct ten
questions mingled together, without the possibility CT
yprcssing opinion aay separate from the oer.
The QUESTION before tin House could MI l'c wldraws
without tic Cnn,rnt oi every one, WIN, ii the lT"6"n
not before the House, wou'd have tie rig 10 bring
It before the House.
Mr. s. then continued his re.aks upon The lex rar!ig
mcntara 10 slew while this question b@iorc lr
House: question ccnd be presented: but tina. ms
must he dsposrd vl, before another qucsn touching
another subject, could he put.
The SrE,ExK said lat tic gentleman from Richmond
was perfectly correct. 50 far as he went. y motion eau
withdrawn BY uuanIIl"u* consent, without pnilng
the question is withdrawn But if member object
ID and Tie question put Ia he li"usl the lna]rty
would decide it,. The SIrksr read tie nal IL s!irw
that any member had rgl to put tie question 10 the
!ousr, i'll case objection to tie withdrawal was n;at"
Therefore, if The question could br ruwho Should de-
eide il The mn orlty, vt course.
MIR. MILLER suggested, !hu; perhaps the gentleman
from Cocchiand wouc! obtain his object. by moving
The entire series Of the resolutions Of the minority
substitute for the second resolution of the maj rit and
:lcn getting rid u" Tie iaInncc Of the majority r"slu
tons, BY moving to strike them out.
MIR. Watches said :c feared in that case, that
ono would come upon hin with division Of The qucs-
lion The gentleman from Richmond had told tIrm
hat the object Of the rule that every may have
vote on his tav"rltc proposI,ion-t!'t was what
MIR. w. wanted and he had offered the motion, but
could not oct his vote. He wished to strike "ut the
:ainrr resolutions and offer those Of n" minority
.lcy might amend them much Us they plruscd-but
he could net get decision on that question: 1t seemed
that the rights Of members somehow. under this
parlian.e rtarv law unequal II p offered 10 strike out
the whole series OF tic committees resolutions,
gentleman 10 divide the garSnr; and he has
right vote OH his proposition, bat have M" right
to my motion embracing the WHOLE as though
the whole did moi include the part. He wished 10 hcah'e
to vote on the propositions he offered whether they
adopted nnt because he considered it lis duty to make
Them and if the parnnc nary law rrecludcd that object
he should wish such law repealed
Mr. IiuiLEMAN cnguircd whether it would BE- IN order
10 MAKE, motion according the suggestion Of the gem
tcn,an from Bo,etourt, (Mr Mlcrl strike out the
cond resolution Of the committee and insert many as
they pleased by way of substitute.
Mr.. HANIIsuH said he wished to know something
more az tu the leave to withdraw. lie thought some
thing dropped from the gentleman from Northampton,
yesterday which minated that The friends otle majority
Of tho committee were weaving web, in which to en-
tnnge their opponents Those with whom MIR. II. acted.
wished to do every thing necessary THIS subject but
they did wish To be tranmcll"d ard called to order at
every motion. Thy wanted ehnwrooE, act upon The
whole subject If they adopted the second resolution Of
the committee they ADOPT The third ALSO because it
followed corollary. Whenever they attempted to
discuss the whole series, they called to order
The SrEAKrR. No, sr-the Chair has decided: that
where the resolutions connected they con- all be dis
cusscd while one is particularly before the House
MIR. G,IMER did not any ground for The fears ex
pressed by The gentleman from Harrison, as to the qres
tons of order in Ibis House. lie was sure that ne M
nreily othe committee the Speaker Of the House had
given him grounds for fear. They were in tic ma
oIity Of the llouse-they were 10 aVor" vi the minority
report, and they much stronger acs than the MA
iily OF the committee could count upon he gentle
from Ilorrson says, that the gentleman from North
nmpon and others weaving web 10 e'l!aP nm and
his friends. l. said Mr.. e., have seen no such irdca-
ton; and let tell the gentleman. that if such ut at
lcinpt were made il mig h; share The ia'c ol rtncoPc
web what woven in the day, might be raVrHed 's'
at night But he says that lie wants clbow1oon: How
much elbo,s.room does the gentleman want: should
suppose that he had enough fer any straightforward
mnrcmcnl or for facing to tie right and the le
and that the rules of order wnud sustain him. Mr. e..
was sorry 10 hear these remarks, for they seemed be
made in an invidcus spirit. lie had hoped that they
Should act with harmony upon this subject, and their
oniy difference TO The means that they could go for
ward 10 attain their objcct without falling by the way.
Let me say, said MIR. g. that there is difference upon
this subec, among the people, they united in gard
TO it. We, said Mr.. G., come here with orders from
the people, and for one hope that they will speedily be
executed.