Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1836-02-04

comply WITH viz, the suppression OF associ1". ha
citizens The North had not power TO 10 this' t1nu
hat if they did mott Why, in tisai case 10 slau
10 our arms Ilaa dozen fanatics nssocia!ins "seIe
were give the right of seeding from 'e Union h
enuagng in with our sister States. ms mas 'e
difference that he (Sir g. between the resolutions
I'm. Stale sncoaed the proceedings oil these fanatics,
there would then be cause ior resistance; Du', nc nun
,Incd, that the acts ut few citizens could ho' uS'y
resort to ultra measures. ,,
Ms BiowS said lie was still unable 10 understand tpe
grGi!eman's position. The gentleman talked o cvl
and other rights connected with this question. ie
admitted that the OF the fanatics were an invasion
of rights but said they were not all invasion Oh INC
rights of the State. What did the gentleman mean
Did he mean 10 say that the rights Of Virginia were not
the rights OF the people of Virginia. and that the former
might be intcrtercd with by the uboitionsts WIN l
punity. Mr.. Brown would be glad II the gentleman
would cxpan farther would say whether the obligation
was not as strongly binding upon defend the rights
Of tic PEOPLE OF Igna, the rights {" the Stake OF
Virginia. Would the gentleman Xplan what disiinc-
ton he took between the Stale and The IrCl' so dr
as the vindcatun OF rights upon this sutyc were
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MIR. SrASARD said the objections Of the gentleman
from Mrchlenburg were now narrowed down TO The
words c.tizens thereof in The resolution CT the maor
ty lie cuntended that the citizsns could not invade
our rights Now, if he really entertained this oil ject'on
what the obvious course of the gentleman: why,
to strike out tic objectionable words
Mr.. GARLAND asked if the gentleman from Richmond
would consent to the striking out, If lie (Ar. G) mace
such motion:
Mr. SrANAnu said. he would lose his right rather
than The proposition involved the drarcs:
hts Of The people; but his determination had nothing to
do with the course the gentleman from MecklenOurg
ought to have pursued. Why did not the gentleman
in the regular way, 10 strike out the wolds 10
which he Objected instead OF ttring substitute entire
~ distinct i'll plrascoiogy and purpose from Tic rrsou-
ton Of the Mai rrlty: The gentleman, III his substitute
had suppressed The Gt claraOn that this interference o.
the North with slave property, violation oi
their constitutional cJ!yation For this suppression, lie
offered vindcaon. His only objection 10 the re-
solution Of the Ma joIity is that which have slated
and this objection he ong ht to have sought to re-
| move in Tic ordinary way-by striking out. i say:
then, Tat his departure from the usual course, aud
his Offering substitute in which he surp!csscs the
declaration that any interference on tie part of
the North will bc violation OF the Constitution, NC
warrants surprising that such suppression IVES the
real object he had view in presenting his substitute
AId lei say, that The question now propoundcd to The
House ty the gentleman from Meckcnbrrr, IS: whether
this declaration shall be suPpcssed-wsln The House
viii say that such interference may be E!acacd by The
North without violating their constitutional obligation
and invading rights; This is tic inevitable infer
from the motion OF the gentleman from Slecklrn
burg. By rejecting resolution which does contain THIS
Grclaratiu and substituting another which does not
tain it, you say conclusively, that rights TO
hold slaves is not guaranteed by the Constitutions:
and those who for such change will stand rcsPon
sblc the people for the denial Of that constitutional
right. Shall such vote be given by this House /?
Mr.. GARLAND asked if he could Withdraw his amend
ment.
The CHAIR replied, that the gentleman from Meek.
lclburg could do SO by consent Ct the whole House.
| MIR. GARLAND said he would then request leAvc 10
withdraw.
Mr. SrAXAED said he would not consent that the sub
sttuc Of tho gentleman from Meckenburg nov be-
fore the House, should be withdrawn.
alr lioPK!xs moved 10 amend The substitute by adding
tho words, recognscd md guaranteed by the CunSt:tu-
ton of the U. 81 that the resolution would then
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"Ihut Virginia alone has the right to lcgSlale over
tic slaves in her territory, and any attempt change
their condition. whether made by Congress- the Lcgisla
lures ur the people of other States vii! be regarded
invasion of our rights, recognized and guaranteed by
| the Constitution "
! After few remarks from Mcssrs. GArLAHD and
EKows oil F., the motion 70 amend tho substitute was
rejected.
Mr.. GARLAND then moved TO strike out from tie re.
solution oi the ajorty tie words or tie citizens there
of. "
Mr. PARKER said, if he understood the object Of the
gentleman from Aecklcuburg in moving strike out
it was 10 establish the position that interference with
rights by tic citizens OF other States inter
ference at ALL and therefore that those States had
right suppress them lie moved the ayes and noes
The mU.iun.
Mr.. GtlMrG begged the gentleman TO consider the ef
feet OF his amendment. The gentleman. said Mr.. G., is
willing to say that Congress has right 10 Interfere
with the slave properly oil the South also, tu; The States
have such right but c is not prepared say that tho
citizens have the rght-he is not prepared say that
our constitutional rights.
Mr.. GARLAND: say they do invade our rights BY
such interference.
Mr.. GrLNER: Then the gentleman says thing
with side OF his mouth, and another thing with the
other. What is it that lie asks 10 have stricken out -
Why, the words that any interference of the citizens
OF the other States is invasive Of the rights Of the
States, and violates the obligations of The Constilu-
ton" Why, Sir, if he believes that interference on
the part of the people of the North would he in.
vasion Of our rights, does he wish tho declaration
stricken out of the rcsoluon? What will be the
effect Of the gentleman 5 amendment? lie denounccs
the Interference OF Congress and the States; but
will 90 to the world, The authority Of the Virgil
MIA Legislature, that the citizens Of the .savc-hod
ing States may interfere with domestic relations and
that without ransgrcssIns any constitutional obligation.
But the gentleman says, sir that the citizens do in
wade rights when they associate Tor the purpose of
abolition. low many must meet, sir, 10 constitute
invasion, in the gentleman sense Of the term; will
be glad il he will tell inc, for confess do not under
stand his daleclics He has said that the Of few
citizens cannot DC considered as invading rights
How many, them usk again, must associate together
before their act is to be looked upon invasion: BY
the gentleman proposIion apPcars to me: that all the
citizens Of any OF the Northern States may embody them.
selves against US, and yet such procedure would
be violation Of rights, because it would not be
interference ole State. cannot make the difference,
sir which the gentleman does between the whole citizens
Of State acting thus, and the State itself lappears to
me that the gentleman distinction where
isis that his distinction is without difference. All the
citizens of n. may organize themselves and interfere
with property, and yet such conduct would not
cordng to the gentleman, he an interference of the
State. Governor Marcy must put his great seal TO the
deeds Of these midnight assasSins, before they be
considered as the acts Of the Stale Of New York.
hope when the gentleman nlarrciy considers the
effect Of his proposition, he will he induced to with
draw it,
Mr.. GARLAND said the distinction between the act Of
State and the acs CT It's citizens, very apparent 10
his mind although ii might not be 10 that Of the gentle
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sustained by the Government OF their State could not,
he very sure, compromise that State.
MIR. FuNTAIHE said he somewhat puzzled by the
urcacy Of the subject lie agreed, tina, if the Gene