Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1836-01-12

would be exhibited by the party to which he belonged
did, he could say for himself that he should take
part in it. The gentleman is, Think in error cup
posing that it has been usual in this body to refer such
subjects rs this to committee of the whole M-. w.
had been here of ne years. during the discussion of
veral subjects relating Ia the Federal Government and
they had generally brcn discussed in committee Of
the whole. presume that ifltis subject should remain
in possession Of the House, gcrnrn wculd enjoy eve
~ oppnrtun; for Gctatu that could Ec desired. MIR.
N"cher would oppose this nntinn if he though,
oiirrwisc-ior !r wished this subject fully discussed
Gil! liz WAS particularly drsr's tina. HE gentleman from
Guortana Suli'G &c ;n:!y ru:-cd IN !I: respect. lie
hop'd he w"a'd s"n4 up i: his place, and g.rr
laf.r I'll S 'vas.ns inr bringing i'll these Il Solutions
But rs 10 Utility c"nvrEicncr w"Hd arise from srnd
lug them To c,;I:l;"c a! the wiI"c Mr. VI trusted the
gentleman would Withdraw his m;oipn, Ina, it would
b. nrSatycd.
Nj. Wilson Of B.. said, that his memory and that oil
Tx gentleman from Fittsy!yanIa did agree. He
under the impression that when tic sub! get of Federal
Relations discussed here four years ago. il sen;
To Committee OF Tie Whole, and that remained
iHr fortnight Such had been the practice IN
regard To every great question that lad been discussed in
this Legislature. lie drsirous that the course
S'"uid lie taken regard 10 this question: which he con-
Sidrrcd OF great importance. The objection OF tho
gentleman from PittSyvana to that course, on the
ground that record was kept OF the proceedings III
Committee, was Mir. ". thought, easily obvia'ed lie
night be record Of all the motions and votes
would BE- kept for, after the Committee should have re-
FHItu tl!e SUBJECT 10 lIouSS, Souiu TX
put again. and the ayes and might be called on
them. And far he from fearing to record his
Votes that he pledged himself that the ayes and
should be lad every notion II he could lind seven
members who would sustain his call for them.
Mr. DoRMAX said that in referring this question to q
Committee of tic Whole there could be but advan-
tasc (and it doubtful whether taw onc,)-the in
ascd freedom Of debate He could easily perceive
" ny tie gentleman from Goocand and his friends de-
sired this uncommon latitude of speech He could no,
what they had 10 spy this subject which could not
be said in the HOUSE. lie every indulgence
would be given tho gentleman aud his arguments would
receive respectful Rging in the House us well as in
the Committee. The advantage Of free and unlimited
debate cuuid not put an competition with the far
greater object Of preserving record of all proceedings
important subject lhis-ard one in which the
public felt 50 dcrp interest. u pom such subject,
MIR. d. thought every vote shL-.d be recorded In
Committee OF the Whole votes would be recorded
and motion for reconsideration lie taken But
why said MIR. d. should yeu send to the Committee of
the wI.s ilcusc subject which has already been de-
cided on by the Committee Of the whole majority OF the
Hous-, constituting the Democratic Republican Party.
OF which you, Mr. Speaker said TO have been Chair
mar; end you have been appealed to- TO say whether tho
'oe upon these resolutions has not already been taken
III that Committee Of the Whole. Ii 50, what necessity
is there f.? rcccnmitiing it, and what need of
freedom OF debate to these who fully discussed
them before they made their appearance here.
MIR. WATKINS said that having heard again, a former
charge rcpcated that vote had been taken these
solutions, in meeting ii tho Democratic Republican
pa.;y he'd N tle Capitol, charge which he had also
IN the public p;ess-te took this occasion TO deny
tie charge. he denied That any pledge given
inr these resolutions any other say said
lr w, that il right, privilege, and our duty
amt ii IS also iab;i 10 meet circles, III squads, ard
in companies il you will. 10 cusut with each other or
subjects affecting the public COED. il is privilege dea!
10 Tie Democratic Republican party 10 held these friend
Is .tptincS and consultations, and 10 reconcile lnlntr
differences among ourselves. ta; may act with h:r
nuny uTd effect III the performance OF our public dulles
And vas ii E"! sheer inPndcnce IN The Wings 10 charge
with nccng in c"ncavc, as il ii were an act Of great
improperly: DO they never meet in cCE"lavr: Why,
sir, tie very night Of this Democratic Republican con
clave, Democrats cndca"orns 10 find their way to
meeting, stumbled into Meg cunc!arc. What
lry were dung, do not pretend to sGv-pr"0aGly they
consulting toi the public good. And what Ii9hl
have thry meet and consul, upon The public good, and
refuse lhr privilege? lave they patent right
Tor such meetings.: If so, where die they get 1t
from: Not iron! the people, am sure. AS To these
midnight meetings: seldom attend thcm--for, fully
agree with $anco, seine other verify, in the ejacu.
atuu Of bicssrd bc the who first invented sleep!
SIR. WircHEH said that when former occasion he
made tie charge auitd 10, he called upon OF his
friends oLSt tina; it wutu not &c denied: but that
i, wout s(!=rw ards lie evaded if possible. Now I'M
Grrsard that tic gentleman from Gouchahd denies THAT
vote nhrn, pledge given en- this subject,
III the meeting III question.
Mr.. WATKISs. / said there no pledge given to
for these .es2lattcns Fer never saw them until
few days prrvicrs 20 presenting them.
Mr.. WTcu;:E said lie had not stalled tina! the ma oIity
voted for these resolutions. But he had said, and he
said again that pie dye to sustain The pr"po-
si;Un cxpungeand HAT he had been told by
Of their Eienic.s. put 1t TO the Hsnibcrs OF thai
eeng-l pc; it To YOU, Mr. Speaker. whether the vote
Of ilir party taxen cXpungiDg: The Speak
sr noLs-,l!e Speaker shakes his ead-!ocs he intend
give negative TO my statement: Then say, SIR,
that # allowed 4 committee, now or hereafter to
investigate Ills subject: will prove my charge.
sill prove by the declarations OF members of your own
party Gu whose niormalion formerly made the state
,ent to the House. will prove this by the testimony
e. persons who present when the communication
was E.adc ,ne and that those who made it spoke rx
unglY of the procrf ding Of that mrcting declaring
that Tie cxpungi resolutions would DC carried in the
Legislature it Lad beer agreed upon by the totes OF
IS lrinbc.s If committee * accorded me, Will
prove all this OK that your own members m'srepresenlcd
your act. But the gentleman fruEl GoochlaId en-
Gcavurs to rctort upon the Wings BY statement that
they also held political meeting the same night and
he says that Democratic Republicans seeking their
way your meeting, stumbled upon that Wing con-
care Yes, sir, that very night when the great De-
urcratic Republican Farty convened in the Senate
chamber, with you, Mr. Speaker, in the Chair-we held
meeting in this ltall-a public meeting, publicly an
nounced the newspapers, for the purpose OF nominal
ing 4 candidate for the Prcsdencv-to which the public
had been invited and at which there large number
Of spectators But did your party meet in this manner
Nc, siryour meeting was conducted with closed doors.
and moved that all persons not friendly Ia the AID.
ADMINISTRATION should withdraw-and as have heard, the
galleries cleared at the suggestion of Senator
This latter fact have only learned from but the
other statements have made received from mem
hers Of the mcc,ing-and he would prove them if All OPP
| porunity were afforded him. He put the question.
whether any member would rise in his place and say
tI:a there no such meeting he had described,
or that at that meeting the vote of tho Democratic Re-
publican party not taken the propricy Of cspung
ing:
Fir PARKER asked the gentleman from Goechland,
whether he intended TO imply BY his remarks on the
Wing meeting, that that any other meeting of Wings
had decided upon any subject which was subsequently
to before the House Ter Legislative action. If that
was the intention of The gentleman, he would receive
denial he tact from every Why member oLh House,
and Nj z. took the onporsnitX Of gYinC that denial