Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1835-04-27

JNN' W marriage, AMI Matthias sand maria
was 'afhet eotruPtnF institution, IN its o
-" "hl II was mhhor Of barter md IA
nc would bfenk it down Wtnes. iI,n Talked
MN ABOUT politics. mud asked whether lie cond
soenhe1 10 consider politics pant of The stme =,
Vernmeni and under hia central md no soi., -.
All under hs control Witness sskcd II NJ wonl
interfere IN The next Presidential ecciior md h
s"'u no no several tim s. aud then snil tint III,
y"s"'on WINS III Darkness when he became ptssi
'O"'' "u' 'hai he soon got into the harness md wn
| hlinseli to promote the objects hnubi,
n"o III 'le" Witness asked HIM wLefh4r w.,
! boren would be the next President u, ,vb.,h.r l.,
eou'h not prevent A. bat Matthias made no nn.w.
10 tn's question. Matthias snld that /, was In
spirit oil Jesus OF Nezare,h that was IN his boJv
o.. 'ha' the apnhs ct Jesus and Christ were two
"''e'e"' .h'ngs. Witness asked Matthias why be
p",'oS'eo properties aud possessions, and Chris,
dId NOT and Matthias said Chs, did n,s'
'ess "e same possessions, aud that he. Maj
'h'aS Knew IT, because the spr,t Of Chi,
was whhin HIM, and therefore he va, tho
proper person TO Know It. lie said that his ell1o,
woo'u not possess the divine attributes wl,bou, II.
,"",'oh some person then oskod him if p,er.o,
"'' nau medical md would il not have saved hin,
"'' "' Nn'o mat II Pierson had confdcd In him h,
"'''' nave been saved, but ricrson lost the sn,,i,
10 possessed by imPnrting IL TO others TIM, he
p'c"ched away the spn,t. lIs naid ,hat p,...o,
'"u also mercantile spirit which lac pnye In F,l.
gc'' ana oecamo good Tor nothing himself. I'm,
'otsoh srhlsy had risen from the loss of ono III
,''se spirits w 'tness snys lhoro Is an in1eae,
oaoc expression IN the eye of mn insane person md
w"''h Matthias manifested when excited d,r,n,
"e conversations 1t 10 possible that tho appearance
In W assumed ny an impostor but it would he
Uncut ana require great denl of practice. A.
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decide that he wns insane fe'
Gross oxnmncd.--It would hc ;,no,,e
man giving his opinion To bayo aeon ,ha ,,....'
frequently and under different situations ,onil 40,
'ooove IA conclusive the opinion OF n pe,son VII,
sd" inc insane man for half nu hour In. M,
'''"'neo IN any sane person when under the In1u.
o"eo o' passion tho Same expression ofoye From
an Witness has seen he considers him inanno
o'. mas mol seen enough to satisfy him on the anb
jet. Wv ''''
ioCouit.-ffom what witness has seen he con.
S'ue's The person insane, but don, give ,ln oninon
WIN the same confidence he would if ho had further
opportunities OF examining HIM
~ Myers practices III West Chrstor in hi.
,o'"V' converted with Motthlns nbout the last
uT"a,y, spoke to HIM about religion aud 40 forth.
before the Cour, of similar tcn66f rln5hhL pas
n, that time insane, cant shy whether nssamcd or
DOT.
fIe WINS very ncohercnt when witness saw him
in February much more so than to-day. Winners
detected evidence of insanity before any thing Of
the kind WIS intimate ed TO him hid generally heard
no was sane, bu, came 10 the conclusion that he
was insane Had not seen him stree Ill to-day
Has heard what the medical men, Messrs. Payne
and Rogers deposcd relative 10 him II is accurate,
Has seen great many mdnincs from witness,
knowledge of tho facts applicable to this case,
AS far as they came under his observation vii.
ness thinks prisoner insane but cant say wheih-
CT 1t is ren or assumed. Did not perceive by my
thing in his manner conversation that /, wnp
assumed. Believes him TO have acted like an in
sane man
Cross Exnmintd- Has not sccn HIM but IN
February and this dny. In Febrnary witness Wis
! tied him from curiosity. The conyclahtion whlci
he bad with prisoner WINS such ns passed 10 day
and II made witness thnh he was Insane. tnh1
rccollcct the particulars OF the conversation WI
ness asked him ifhc thought he was Jesus Christ
aud he made n distinction between jesus nnt
/ Christ. | lc sn1 he was Jesus Of " zareih, bu
! that the Christian followers Of Christ's doctrine
were erroneous He :old witness he had no fnlti
/ IN medicine, mud denounced the whole medical fac
ulty Witness spoke TO him about Mr.. Picrson
AMI then he said mankind hal not faith like him
lie SAID Pierson died because he had not the spirit
Witness nskcd him about Mr.. q Mrs. Folger
aforementioned the exact questions. lie asked hin
if he anolnled Ms. Foger and Matthias cyode'
giving an answer. Ills angWers to witness were
all neoherent aud Wild When witness asked hIu
if he was Jesus Christ he stamped his foot md SAT-
he was. lie called witness devil when he oske
him about Mrs FoIger His actions wcte all sue
as witness considered ncoherent Witness can
remember all the answers but recollccts the IN
presgion3 made on his mind ms to his ins1ntiy.~
Witness conyrrsed with him to day When wit
ness entered his cell with Doctor Rogers, Matthla
said gentlemen you nre come to test my shnhy
and sniI, i" gentlemen am not insane" In III
desuIcry conversation, Heaven was introduced
~ he sud lhnl it was 10 every mans breast, ii
then wen, on to state TINT the Christians re, thci
present idea about Heaven from the Baby
when they bull, the pillar, 10 ascend to II nc sal
Hell also existed IN every mans breast lie the
suokc about his angels which he had to send aoou
ard witness asked where they were, ord he sal
within him and he had the power 10 send tlcf
abroad. Witness asked him to. day if he had fat
in the healing art, and he said there was som'
hing in IT, but he did not require IT, Witness the
asked him how he lie, Mr. picr,on die, md he sal
Pierson lost the spirit lie has seen persons wi
were long confined in prison but they had no'hin
peculiar nbou, the eye People in the habi. of Sc
ing insane persons could judge of insanity, bu, n
as well IS physicians, because they make II the
! bushes. to remark it bat men who take equ
pans TO remark insane persons, can judge us We
as physicians.
John Wood examined Has seen Matthias on
D since he was in prison. About the Doth Janua
1 last went to sec him for curiosity; convcrsed WI
him twenty or thirty minutes through the prise
s door though, him religious enthusiast, and wis
n ed to elicit from him something about religious d.
d trine. lie seemed not pleased and limited that "
ness came TO ridicuIe him but witness replied tn