Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1835-02-10

ihcTc was politics that should be
observed that set of should never pay the money
whilst another expended it, lie agreed with ia. sena
tor from Ohio, (Mr. Ewing) that the revenues of the
Department would be amply sufficient to support IT, lie
feared that the postage might be reduced and the
expenses thrown ON the Treasury.
MIR. Ewing said the honorable Chairman knew be-
iorchand mat he himself would agree with him this
amendment That there no occasion for his formal
speech, with which he had favored the Senate.
Mr.. Grundy explained.
MIR. Ewing said the discussion was wholly unneccss,
ry as the amendment would probably pass without OBJ
lection.
MIR Bibb rose 60 move slight alteration. lie was
anxious the amendment should pass. He wished to
modify It by stking out the word 'hereo and insert
10 The Ge1claf PoSt-eGcc.
Alter some further conversation between MIR Grun.
dy, Mr.. Knight and Mr. Bbb the amendment suggest
ca oy Mr. Bibb was agreed to- and the amendment was
The Senate then proceeded consider the ndncn
proposed by Mr. Gundy the 10th section of the BILL
providing for the payment of all debts due by the De-
partment ON the 3ist day of March next
Mr.. Southland opposed the amendment. This paying
o, me debts had not been called for by the Department
ne ara not wish to Interfere in its affairs masked lie
uough as II was appropriation, it ought be in
eoPorated IN the bill for re-organzng the Department
re was opposed TO making appropriations in the dark
l., was not known what this would take from the
treasury. There to be a commissioner to be sure:
tere might be some safety in that The debts, moreo-
yer, were wholly underlined Ii not stated whether
tcy were those due last year. those due or those
uue month hence. 1t would be throwing open door
to the grosscs extravagances. There must be some
thing more than the resignation of clerk before he
c0nid place any confidence in that Department.
Mr. rrundy SAID, the Department in dcbt--that
was not doubted denied and were about TO take
away ITS means That being the case all he asked was
That ITS debts should be paid and if made no such
provision, should, by taking away it's means be the
cause of its creditors losing their debts although the
money was advanced for the benefit of the People He
therefore saw no reason for calling the Executive or
the Postmaster Gencral the subject But the mino-
rity OF the Committee of opinion that if we took
away the means of the Department. we ought to pay its
debts lie admitted that the Postnaste r General had
no right to bind the United States by loan and be so
voted at inc last session. but if the Department should
go on, 1t would redeem itself. We all thought ii
Would DC unwise not to re-organZe the Dcpart-
ment and If did so, the question only was
was It right to pay the debts, suffer the creditors TO
lose them? Without legislation the creditors woud o,t
their debts, and by doing So they would lose them
The POSTMASTER General would never say that he had
made an application TO Congress- for aid for hc did not
make it but 1t was suggestion of himself on the part
Oh inc minority One part of the Committee thought il
ought TO be advanced and another that it on ght not
And he could not agree in the propcty of the remark
% TINS was not the proper place for introducing the pro-
vision. What place was proper for supplying the de-
hcency as the bill which deprived the Department of its
means: IT the principle right, TO pay them the
amount ought not to deter the Senate from granting H.
IL me for asceraining the
lection that the of any other persons should be in
serted that gentlemen desired
Mr. Ewing objected TO the amendment because il was
not the proper place Ia which TO insert il the only true
mode OF making the appropriation was by introducing
bill Tor the purpose But it unexalnpIel to ask Con-
gress to pay the debts of department Was such q
thing ever heard Of with regard TO the War Navy De-
partments? How to know that the debts were.
actually contracted? Before he consented to vote any
hng Tor TINS purpose, he determined know what
those debts were But of those debts consisted of
drafts, which were not payable till September 1885 for
anticipated services and If we should agree 10 nav then,
1t would be allowing the service be rendered or moi
Just as the creditor pleased
Mr. Porter thought this extraordinary call np.
on inc ocnae, TO vote away onc two three hundred
thousand dollars without knowing any thing of the pro.
proy OF the debt contracted The amendment said all
the debts up to the Bis March, and every bing mOht
S1c wthh lts provisions, matter how applied
lie would inquire what there was for eposng all
this confidence in the head of the Department; Ii it
was Justly due, and the money honestly borrowed
could not the books be shown could not the m
produced! Ills strongest objection to this amendment
was the putting off the production of the accounts mi
alter the adjournment of Congress Mr. p here alluded
to letter the signature of the President addressed
to hYconstituents and published at New Orlean ps
iag app! ss sss he Pos
Office, ldstsession. He rccurr0 lis TO show
at he had not voted and spoke length on the sub
ject. When Mr.. p. concluded
Mr. Grundy rose and moved an adjournment, which
prevailed and
The Senate adjourned
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
Mr. Foster, from the Committee on the Judiciary re-
ported bill further to amend the judicial system Of the
u States; which was read twice.
Mr. F. said the bill was one of very Cenerol inercs,
For two months il had been very Inaturev ,
the Committee on the Judiciary 1t made but few chan
gcs IN the present Judicial system, and he thought il
ought to be passed at the present session He therefore
moved TO postpone its further consideration until burs
dy next and that 1t be made the special order for that
The Speaker suggested that bill of similar charac-
Ter was reported at the last and remained unaccd
on lie doubted whether it in order to report the
present bill, under the circumstances of the case
Mr. Foster explained the objects of the bill and con-
tended that IFS provisions not analogous to those
contained IN the bill referred to by the Chair.
Mr. j. q. Adams inquired whether it was conemplat-
cd by tins bill to add additional Judges those who at
present occupied the Bench of the Supreme Court
Mr.. Foster replied in the negative
Mr. Adams suggested postponemcnt of the bill TO a
more distant day, and that il be printed
Mr. Foster modified his notion by PROPOSING 10 most
Pone the bill to Monday week. and make it the special
order for that day
MIR, Clay remarked that this question seemed TO be
one OF Importance. He therefore moved a call of the
House. upon which question he called for the yeas and
nays, winch were ordered and wcre-yeas 81 nays S.
Mr. Foster SAID, there appeared TO be some difficult
" on The point OF order he would TO DISCHARGE the
Committee of the Whole on the state Of the Union rom
this subject and that the be re-commited 10 the
Committee on the Judiciary; which was agreed to-
The Speaker having decided that the bill lust reported
by the COMMITTEE not in order il was withdrawn bv
Mr. Foster, the Chairman of the Committee ON the J1
dietary.
MIR. Jarvis, from the Committee on the Public Build
ings reported bill TO provide for erecting fire proof
building Tor the accommodation of the Departments of
the Treasury and State; which read twice and com
Incd
The following resolution heretofore offered by MIR.
Ferris, was again taken up:
RcSOioed That the Committee Of Wavs and Meona he
instructed to inquire into the cxpcdiecy Of repeating
the duty foreign coal
And Mr.. Ferris concluded his speech in support of
his resolution.
LOUISVILLE AND PORTLAND CANAL.