Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1834-02-18
Virginia legislature.
DEFERRED DEBaTE.
IN SEN Me- fondnn IAN o1

DI1rEpRCD DEBHIE.
IN SENATE Monday, Jan 27
REMOVAL DEPosIrEs.
MIR. Dromgooie moved lin Committee OF The whole)
10 amend the 18th resolution OF the Select Commit e.s subj
stue, (Which declares that Congress has not the no or
TO create Bank of the u Staes by adding the follow ing
words- And therefore, this General Assembly o, Yiry,.
ma disapproves OF the effort made by the last Congress 10
recha'er The Bank OF the States, and fully
The application of the Executive veto in arres,ing it
Mr. Dromgoole said he did not intend 20 into an ar
gument IN support OF this mo ion. Every member he
presumed, had formed his opuio upon the subject Us
mad no doubt that every gentleman was ready to saw
when attempt should be made to re- charter The RI
OIL Tue United States, whether il constitutional or
consutuiionaand that they were also ready to give their
opinions OF the Presidents OF the Tor that pur
pose Nie this Legislature called upon 10 ceusure
every act OF the Presiden OF the proprey of which The
slightest doubts were enter Aimed they saw any thing
sooa IN ms 9tcia' acts they ought in equity say So
Mr. smith said, he did not here prepared to sc,
OH the principles OF the The motion of he gen,e
man IRON Brunswick declares that we fully approve Of
inc RESIDENTS veto. The enquiry is what is the veto
Before we pass this declaration of approval upon it. WE
must examine it. And it would DO well for the een,e
man to refer TO the document Did The President veto
the constitutionaity of the Bank. No: lie refused 10
sign t-because he deemed it neSpedient TO re charter
sucn oanE as was proposed-because Of some of the
provisions OF The act III they go into an exami
nation oil the acts OF General Jackson thoy oueb, TO
.ehd Their inquiries 10 his whole official conduct Du
Mr. 3, Tor one, would put his on this propositon
was no. prepared 10 act on The principles OF a voIu-
mnous document, which before the Senae-nor
say without examination, what all the principles OF the
Neo were Although, from his recollection of that mes.
sage, he certainly could not give 10 it his approbatop
Mr. Dromgoole said his resolution did not propose tina,
appreciation should be expressed the princples contain
ed in the veto message--but of the act itself tn n,
was one hng-the for its application another r.
Tue ogc OF the gentleman could convince Mr. d. that hi,
resolution embraced the arguments set forth in thai Iocu
ment, he would willingly modify the motion Ii had not
peen MS design 10 entrap gentlemen into an of
an 'he reasonngs oil avolumnous document which thew
hau not recently examined. Such had never been MS
' MS
Mr.; Maxwell said. II the gentleman from Brunswick
intended 10 sarZe tie resou ion, must be admitted a,
ms amendment was most happily devised for the purpose
me resolution against the cons,i,uonality OF Bank
hau obviously no connection with the subject before ,b.u
which was 1.-The removal Of the deposi,es and the amend
nen mad no connection at least proper come cton
WIN NE resolution The satire, Therefore, very
were adopted lis real design might not Re
ALI and there was certainly great danger (as the gentle
man from kanawha had shewn that the approving of Tho
application OF me veto might be considered by many as
approving OF all the reasons which il was ionndeJ -
put u So IL would become necessary examine those
reasons before they approved hemss very ~ he an.
pretended, could remember exactly what thew wereFr
and that would lead them of into long inquiry and end
less debtte. He would suggest, therefore Tia, no,Ln
the gentleman might get his object more convep;an,lr
by moving 10 strike the resolution at once instead II
f'5dp r dd in Ibis wy by his awkward sppendage
gentleman from Norfolk might suppose him 10 oossess b
could assure him that he mr. D. felt no disposition 70 ~
err In The discussion OF grave subject of legislation
me gentleman himself was much capable of using
and more prone 10 the of the weapons of satire on al
occasions than Mr. d. lie had been called to the con-
sideraiion oil subjects, as they sent from the other
House. IN come ion He thought under the peculiar r
cumstances OF the tines the connection ought TO he nre
served. But how such opinion could enable ,,a r.
teman from Norfolk charge him with inconssenoSS T.;
distinguishing between of the President and The
arguments and principles on which it was sustained he
could not perceive. But the genlem an whose siph, ia
particularly keen seems TO sec H. II so, he must indeed
be gifted with great clearness OF vision; for
To o sec what i@a'n "d %f io Be- .e SSe'
Mr. Cooke said, That while he agreed with the 70
mark Of the gentleman from Kanawbs to the tendency
oil the motion, he did consider the intention of The
mover to go farther, than simply approve the act the
PRESIDENT lie had no hesitation in saying that believing
the Bank OF the United States unconstitutional he ap
proved oil the Veto But he should vote sns this amend
ment because he thought its 10 the resolution
improper
Mr.. Smith read the clause in the Constitution roI,; O.,
cases IN which The Executive refused his signature TO bills
ana argued from the definition given by to the Veto
mat II the Senate adopted this amendment the woul5
III TACT express their appreciation Of all the PRINCIPLES eon
tanned In the Veto Message. The President i'm returnin
OH was requred to accompany 1t with his reasons for re.
iunS 10 give his assent 10 its PASSAGE which reasons
were to be entered the journals of the two Houses
what, Then, was veto but the for the refusal
III was not necessary TO allude to the definition of tbc
word; but The statement Of reasons was the veto itself il
was impossibe 10 separate them he could no, assent
70 some OF lhe principles contained in that document he
must oppose The motion. IT, a friend Of the bank he
wished at all hazards to maintain its constuonality b
should be willing TO vote for the Bot as the rea
soning OF the President such as he never could
TO- he should go against the whole message
MIR. Page hoped the gentleman from brunswick would
Wlnuraw his motion There was no gentleman who be.
neved The Bank unconstitutional, who would not approve
OF NE veto But as possible TO separate the We
70 rom The reasons given for its apple and as some
Oh hose reasons considered Objectionable he rued
be motion would not he pressed The gentleman mus ner
ceve, tna tDe words OF his amendment were eouiyoca
and liable to be misunderstood 49, f''O'"''
Mr.. Dromgoole modified his motion bv s,rikn, az, q,
words Executive veto, aud inserting relsaI of s Pee
sident TO sign the charter" WV 10
Mr. Old said bis objections TO the amendment ,vcre M,
lessened by the modification. His objection went n,cy
further than TO the pbraseology. was il no, evidan
mat This was intended at least would be considercd @
onset TO the censure the President Has il the Iss
connexon with the subject OF the removal Of tic deno
SITES And II not, was it no, offset! n this plao Of BAL
shg accounts was TO be pursued, IL would be well in
ioOh Ior Olher oises such could be found in tho
southern Campdign-the MaysvHle Veo, SC, They
r. 60 ~ % pSn en' 70 'he present occasion this
~ was ~ MS opinion improper 10 cucumber The real sub
Jec before Tie committee with matter of,lv i,roleos,
and every attempt Of the kind ought 70 he on', I
those who thought With Mr. o., that the presIeof s,y
Illegally and unconsitutionsIy in removing rbc n"JT
monies. they ought TO express this opinion ds,nc,I"
enu Whout lncumbraDce. This game Of balancing az
counts ought to be repudiaed by the Legislature r.,
s nouon was not 10 be considered alone az an oGset ~
'nc eensTe OF the Presidential called upon the Il os,
nwe OF Virginia TO pass upon past
wDom Vney had now control, and 70 approve of no.
gone act Of the PfesdSnt in connection with recent