Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-03-02

ration In hcsilityo the States he would provoke spirit
which it would be difficult break down. The present
struggle is great il is between liberty and power
Ii the bill which is before the House should pass it
break down the powers of the States He declared
that he would rather take the Tariff than see that bin
pass, which would be dangerous a precedent when
ever the President should feel di posed himself
against the State sovereignues. lie gave the Senator
full credit for his great talents but he unable stay
under the weight OF the which he had TO sup
which likely to ensure TO the Southern States from the
peculiar character OF their population, aud the
with il by the North.
Mr.. Webster then commenced his reply by disclaim-
OF any feeling of uukinncss towards the Senator from
South Carolina. They had entered public ie both young
men, ardent and jealous some twenty years ago when
they had arranged themselves opposite sides.
MIR. Calhoun explained; that he bad desired 10 say,
that all the differences between them had uniformly been
generous differences and had never disturbed their pr
Mr. Webster admitting this to be true stated that he
felt deeper regret that the Senator from South Carolina
should have imputed TO him desire 10 win favor in
tain quarter.
MIR. Calhoun again explained that he had used very
strong qualifications in his language, aud certainly had
no. imputed such motives
MIR. Webster wen, on deny that he was actualcd by
any newborn zeal in favor of this administration, or
that he had in way, altered his views concerning
it, He. then continued his argument, by replying to
the remarks in reference to the compact aud
accedc, and Strengthening the original position which
he had taken in reference to these terms. He stated
that the Senator from South Carolina had pursued his
argument this morning with total misrepresentation
throughout OF his (Mr. VS. admissions He denied
that the Constitution compact framed by the States
in their sovereign capacities How had il come down
us? Had come down lure dipiuo or from the re notc
regions OF antiquity; Neither Ii had been created by
the people, acting people, DESTROYS of forming one
Government, and raifyng the Constitution by their own
act, reservng 10 the States powers
as had not been granted TO the General Governments The
Constitution rests on compact aud agreement among the
people that they would make government for
common purposes aud was noitse that compact. He
ierred TO the resolution OF the British Parliament on the
deposition of James III. in 1858, which had been quoted
on the other sde stated that 1t had undergone long aud
violent discussion before il adopted that
ed the Constitution of England to be founded on com
pact, and not to be a compact He agreed that the peo
peoi the States came into this compact States, and
that State could force the compact any other States
but that all the people of all the States united to
Ter on the General Government all the powers which had
not been reserved TO the States. The Publications of Mas
sachusets and New Hampshire allude to compacs among
the people, and not between the States He stated that
the general puport OF the resolution OF Virginia was that
the compact Was between the people not en- the
States He also commented upon the construction put by
the Senator from s. Carolina, the phrase, We the
People" SC.
In reference to the of the Supreme Court as final
interpreter he said few words lie admitted that The
reserved rights OF the States reservations equally
against every Department of the Executive Government.
lie stated the opinions he had expressed what was
called the Bank Veto.
He considered the OF the Senator South Caro-
una TO consist in his contemplating this Government one
Government and weniy-lour States, instead OF Gov
eminent and one State He again referred the opinion
oil Mr. Nj adison that league aud government were dis
nct and that the people must take the the other.
lie stated that the convention which formed constt-
on foreseeing the collisions which would ensue were
very anxious TO provide remedy and adopt
for solving the difficulties which should arise He admit
ted that IN free country, living under written consitu-
ton the lowest Judiciary Court had right express an
opinion as TO the constiuonaly of law of the legsa.
re lie referred TO the appellate power OF The court ms
The most important All the courts have right to Judge
Tor themselves ii not that they had given up that
right to the common government.
The Senator from South Carolina had said that he was
on the side OF liberty, and that lie (Mr w was on the
side OF power If he (Mr. W. were to say that he was
the side of liberty and the gentleman on the side OF
of no
other He thought that he the side OF liberty and
he thought the gentleman from South Carolina
SIDE OF power, Tor he stood up for the power OF minority
TO rule majority, for the dangerous power OF setting
up the voice of single State say other State
take the law from mouth. If this mere league
between sovereign States, it could not be broken and
there was no appeal but to the sword In reference 10 the
particular population OF the South northern gentleman
desired TO produce any evil
Mr. Calhoun said he believed that there was no inten
ton in the North to disturb this property bat such was
the inevitable current Of things
Mr.. Webster referred the influence of that propery
the representation the South i'm Congress and stated
a' WIN The exception OF some fanatics and vsionares
the leehng on this subject in the North precisely
what the Senator and his friends could want
Mr. Spragne made some remarks on the Bill which had
been passed by the Senate and which now in the
ohe House and on the course OF conduct the part
South Carolina which had rendered necessary to pass
that bill South Carolina had declared her determination
TO resist the execution OF the laws and the only question
was, whether the General Government possessed the pow
er TO enforce their execution. He stated that the argI.
men: of the Senator from South Carolina resolved tse
people, they had not the power transfer it, that re-
NAMED among them and could be resumed at pleasure
lie advertcd 10 She origin of shew that this DO
sion could not be sustained He considC red the are-
mens OF the Senator from South Carolina as abounn i'm
dangerous and unsusdnable propositions, infringing the
original unaienahe rights of He insisted that the
Oil winch had been passed Ivy the Senate, had received
the votes OF lis supporters the most conscientious
grounds The practical notification of Georgia produced
me practical and theoretical notification of South Carroll
ma In reference TO the conemptuous manner in which
the Senator from Georgia had spoken the decision Of the
supreme Court he expressed regret that such language
should nave been adopted for he could the gentle
man mat very different feeling prevailed roug bout the
con"iy and that II was generally held 10 be Of the
most glorious institutions which had reared en-
titled TO respect and reverence for IFS intellect and wisdom
Alter some beautiful and metaphysical descriptions of the
consequences which would result from the dissolution
The Onon he again repeated that he had supported the
Bill because he dared peril the Union and concluded
with splendid pcrordtiOn the character and of him
who should descend to after ages the destroyer OF this
happy government
Mr. Forsyth said that hc regarded the Constitution as
surrender OF power by The people behalf Of their States
to the Uaiied States file presumed that the gentleman
from South Carolina could contest the right of peo-
pie TO surrender their sovereignty. BY the Constitutions
they had surrendered their Sovereignty with the single
exception OF the equality of representation this House
lie considered that among The powers which were dele
gated to the United States, lie right determine the
mode and manner OF obtaining redress Of grievances He
also said few words in reply the the Sena-
tor from South Carolina that the General Government
could not give guarantee 10 hdt State present
dilion.
Mr. Forsyth moved 10 lay the resolutions on the table.
Mr. Calhoun said he wished the gentleman from Ten
nessee would Withdraw his amendment and voe