Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-09-06

Mr. oCOnnell denied having had or having any intsn.
ton Of having morning paper.
Mr. Zimmerman had seen letter Of the Honorable and
Learned Gentleman in the papers soliciting subscriptions
for the purpose.
Mr.. OCounel.-only Chairman of public meet
ing;
consider before II took the first step in this matter TO what
ttwould lead He admitted that the OF the House
had not been observed that the House had been
oheu 10 conve ater violation, aud that the tac under
standing oil that connvancs was that impsay should
be equally extended TO ALL The question, however, was
'hs--was the adopted by the Hon and Learn.
Ell GENTLEMAN such as would enforce the imparsity aud
justice Tor which he commended? The Hon. and Learned
GcneWan had endeavoured to deter those who took
ON this question different from his view oi by saying
that they shrinking from ,lespos the pe a.
He knew not whether he (Sr X PeeD oud be
as man hkey To- shrink from that despo,ism lie knew
no baser lear than that which would lead
date his conduct to the feeling of the press CLEAR
opinon that the fear OF being thong
the press ought not to prevent man vi spirit ou doing
justice to it-(Hear, hes-an as an act of ius,ic. 10
It, he must say, that during the twenty years he had been
IN Parliament he had had no occasion to COMPLAIN nj H.
reports oil ms speeches which had been inserted in the
press ana That he had not had in that time any
ea'on wan the reporters save once twice. when
OF Weih hai called upon him Tor documents referred to
IN ms speech lie thought therefore, that without go
ing further into parcuars-lookng at the necessity
is!ng at present for having the debates both in the
House oil Commons and the House oil Lords an accurate
account OF the transactions in Parliament he thou
the reports OF the debates OF the House OF Commons tor
the last twenty years had been given with great
cy and fidelity. (Cheers) During fifteen of those
twenty years he had held Office and during the whole OF
that time he had never received any solicitation for any
FAVOR or patronage from any reporter and he believed
he might say that no application had been made to
any oil his colleagues while he office for any such
or avor IN consequences Of any favor show
them Tor having given their pr eches fully. (Hear
u he could bear this testimony the nee of the
reporters, founded as il the experience of fifteen
years IN office, he thought ho might nye those who
au hun 10 say, whether they could boar the
same evidence. CLEAR, hear from Lord Alho,p) II
CURED CURE. 10 MN that the Hon and Learned Gentleman.
wheh ne SAID that he held power ia that Hou.e whc
was not to be controlled either by the King or the Lords
or The courts OF law, the jniges him (Sir
n, Peei) nat he (Mr oconneiI) ought, his power
was responsible, 10 temper its exercise with justice
(cheers)-and il he (r OCounclD said that the report.
IN 'he morning newspapers were not only incorrect and
gnoia ant, but also 'desgnedly false"-
cloud cries Of hear, hear.)
Mr. o'Conne said that he had intended to confnc him
sell to the reports in one paper only rob, OH he Inc
Sir II. Peel-Then, why commence his motion for
bringing up the propretos Of the Morning Chronicle
with the four papers against which he complained some
40 or 90 gentlemen were connected-some holding COM
missions in the army and in the navy-severA having
got Acaiemical education-severaI of them members
oil the inns OF courssome Of them practising barrisers
and all moving in the ranks OF gentlemen and they la
urally felt at the designation OF their reports as de-
hberate faisehoods. Loud cries OF hearl He did not
mean TO that any wrong which those gentlemen mir
sustain could Justify them in the mutilaon the
ed an implied engagement to the House and the public
that what they did give should be given CORE city and m
partially. (Hear, hear) He thought that a duty
winch ey were bound to discharge to both and they
not TO make private quarrel with any member ground
Tor snpPressng his public speeches (Hear.)-Bu what
was the nature Of the Hon. Genilenans moiiou2 II was
mat the printer oil the Times wspaper should be
to the bar Suppose that motion granted what would
place. The charge against him would be ineligible enog
case now! The Speaker would saw You have vic
lated our privileges. We should have no complaint aran,,
you you haddone tinpatalIy but cause of com
plant against you because you have violated only par
TALLY What assurance, then, could the Speaker ask the
printer to gves Would he have him say, Il will promise
that in future all the debates shall he fully
ated? But in that case he would be promising TO COM
init still greater violation OF the privileges of The House
(Hear, hear But, these orders of the House remain
unrepeaied and the peakcr should be called upon to
mind the printer and the printer shouldsay will, observe
Justice, but maintain my right abridge what speeches
IKE, men the Hon and Learned Member won d saw al
have another power 10 which will resort will clear
.hc gallery OF strangers" Now if the Hon and Learned
Member wa. determined TO adopt that course, why not
adopt II naninIy and openly at once (tear, hear
Bat before lie did this, he might call the editors TO he
bar Really this discussion obout the newspapers was
very strange. The Honorable Member said he wouId
ask the editors whether the reporters were h,ir
or their servan II they replied that they were their
servants, then the Honorable and Learned Gentleman
would INSIST that they should get her in their
place. but could the House pretend conouI the pro.
P'ieors OF newspapers in that manner The Hon and
Learned Member then said, that il the porters ere
masters he would have at the reporters the And
what would be the result Were they to have Il same
motion repeated day after day and year after year, The
Hon AID Learned Member ad he would persevere mt
his speeches given but this collision in hrb
the House ought 10 he ehgaged' Why did not the III n
Menher do That which had been often dcne before
he had only to notice that strangers i'm the gallery
aud lie would their all. euce IT the House eneI
ed Into the course which the Hon and Learned Member
proposed IT would he pregnant with the disagreed
bic consequences il was difficulty which they ought
10 he anxious TO avoid.
The order OF the day then read, and
Mr.. O'Conne moved that John jose oh Lawson and
James illam Lawson be called TO the bar
MIR Mehuen moved, amendme nj, that the said or
der be discharged
Strangers then ordered withdraw and the House
divided when there appeared
For Mr.. O'COnnelPs motion 1s
Against u I53
Majority IO5
Mr.. OConne thus loiled in his motion ne xt
The Speaker calling his attention to the presence of
strangers in the gallery The speaker ordered the gallery
10 be cleared aud the House proceeded for the
OF the night with closed doors 1t Understood that
alter the gallery cleared, Of the members gave
notice Of motion for The next day for dispensing with The
that end could hardly fail to succeed, as the effect of Mr.
oConnelps determination il persevered in would other
wise be iodeprve the public OF all of what was
passing in Parlament-.N. Y. Eus. Post
he reporters OF the Times the day after the det
cision oil the House, published another letter. in which
they thanked that body for the signal and triumphant ynd
cation afforded by their VOTE and the testimony horne bv
ability OF their reports; and therefore, that o of
10 the House OF Commons. and TO prevent inconyence 10
The public, they will for the uure deal with Mr. O'Con
nell as with other members Of the House. no better and
no worse-thougb they cannot help feeling the bteres
scorn and contempt for the malignant malicious false
mood by which they were provoked, but which, on reec
uon ney almost th'nk they degraded themselves by no