Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-12-21

should any discussion here! That honorable
best they could investigate the FACTS but he
IL perfectly competent Tor tho House Itself
to have any examination 'nsy ,hougnt proper 10 nave
ce would be done TO the people, ui discussion upon
the reasons OF the Secretary was not had aud
tended at length that the Secretary was bound by law
TO furnish his they Che House of Representa-
tiy-.) bounl to examine 10 pronounce upDn Them
and thus restore the nation to tina, state in which wa.
before the removal took place; do which, they should
no, defer investigation until alter the evils had been in
creased ten told
Air. vanderpoei, said ae could not claim the honor OF
representing the commercial emporium, but ne CLAIMED
that OF representing people agricultural commercial
anu deeply interested in manufactures For those leo
pie he would that the removal oil the pubic deposiies
from the Bank Of the Uiied S'aes, met with their
probation deoaied by The best interest al
the usual course the reference OF the subject Gentle
men on the other side had recourse exraneous conde
support their views They endeavor to alarm
IA with reports OF Commercial distress and ruin
But this distress in any way occasione, by the
removal OF the deposites' Has that been proved
IL was mere water OF speculation, and he had good
right speculate any The course Of the Bank
their curtamen OF six millions Of their circulation, was
the chief cause OF the embarrassment Other causes con-
oa'ed 10 H. particularly the payment Of duties in cash
An individual OF much practical information had
the opinion TO him that the noise about the Of the
depostes, all humbug But, again, is said that
public require certainty Where the evidence or an.
pearance Of any uncertainty regard course of the
House. or Of the Government this subject Was in
the vote oil last Thurs.ay' The other offered
ways and Means, in his opinion wholly lei, Mt
Mr. McDuiiie said, the variable rule of all Iepi.a.
I'VE bodies was to settle great principles in the Committee
OF the Whole, and then TO settle questions of deail in The
standing Committees. This was the parliamentary rule
Our course should be, FIRST to ascertain whether we have
the right to violate the spuaons Of the charter and
second, whether the President, speculative
as 10 the interference of the Bank elections can direct
the Secretary OF the Treasury to remove the tepostes
when these questions settled, the House can direct
any COMMITTEES to report bill in conformity with it's eci
sions The public mind would thus be quieed He be-
sought the House not TO permit the great interests of the
community to be sacrificed, while we carried on these
petty disputes IL might be sport 10 but the
muniy il was death. Any man who TO serve any party
purpose shall keep back this question from decison-b
there is no such member bere-deserves the execraton
OF The community There was no to go before
standing Committee. unless Tor the purpose of obtaining
another report in favor OF the Presidents course Had
not the President given sufficiently annie and al
length for his course Had the Secretary the Urea.
sury taken time and pains enough report his reasons for
an act which he did two months before the
ment OF the session. II the House wen, into the Com
m,tee OF the Whole the subject, he would Introduce
resolutions Tor the action of the House upon it,
Mr. Sutherland. said he had voted twice for the pre-
vious question, and again he should for when he
had an opportunity He belonged that class OF repre-
senta'ves who were anxious for the of
ths question: than OF any other question. His cons,tu
the question But he thought the most edv wav oGob
tanning decision, to refer the subject to the Commit
tee OF Ways and Means. IL went into tho discussion
in the Committee OF the Whole should never reach
decision. The Committee OF w avs and Means wouId i'm
mediaely give us Resolution, upon which our action
would be definite and speedy There must be issue
made and upon what issue would the House sooner
act than upon one presented in regular form Standing
Committee. In the Committee of the Whole, we should
have dozen projecs,-one from the gentleman from 6
C-oilers from many members He hoped The onesion
oil reference would be settled this day. 1.-THE Committee
on ways and Means did not present speedy report he
pedgeu himself To call upon them for the report
action, was what he demanded.
Mr. Foot said, the House could not act upon the reso
hons proposed to be submitted by the gentleman from
W as well as upon the issue which may be presented
by The Committee OF Ways and Means. To avoid dis
cussion OF the subject impossible and the sooner we
went into 1t, the sooner should arrive at a result He
referred to the rules OF the House, show that the usage
was to refer certain subjects the Committee of the Whole
ana commended that this was subject which should take
that direction. ~
Mr. Jones oil Ga did not agree wish the gentleman from
C that the reasons given by the Secretary of the Trea
TOT 'he removal oil The deposites insufficient but
he had MADE up his mind that the proper place for the dis
cossion OF the subject was in the Committee Of the Whole:
he voted agains, the previous and
he should vote against it, He in favor of free and
uii discussion oil every question of public
L he discussion OF this question to all those who
were parties 10 lit was due to the Bank-to the
fsd III ne fGe Whole. he saw no reason why
we should delay to bring it before that Committee. '
Mr.. peyton said. the people had pronounced iuJp.
hent on ms SUI Ject, which were now called upon
hastily to reverse The American people dread no pow.
er-tha OF corporation, or of any O,her power The
alarm attempted TO be excited was without touuda,on -
His own opinion wa that The subject ought TO be referred
hr.t 10 Commttee and upon the report oil that Commit
tee the House should act. he movement Of the Sscrs
tary oil the treasury two months advance of the meet
ing oil congress was necessary he contened in order TO
Preven ne bank from Withdrawing from the general cir
culaion OF the country, nine millions of dollars
He referred to many charges against the BANK which
unless gentlemen the other side admitted them ought
10 be subjects OF investigation in Standing Committee
Hcs as TO which any dispute should arise could not be
settled in the Committee OF the Whole
Mr. Davis OF Massachusetts, wished the House IN nm
ders'and The nature OF the question: il was motion 10
RECONSIDER vote sending the Report of the Secretary to
Committee OF the Whole. Why is the motion made ? II
Is 10 send The paper TO the Committee of WAYS and Means
What purpose is TO be served by that course First II ia
said TO be the usage of the House 10 refer such m
mat Committee But we referred, at the commencement
oil every session. the Presidents Message to the COMMITTEES
oil the Whole Why because relates to great and ee
neral great matters OF the Union There il
all great subjects should be referred TO the Committee of
the Whole The usage smaller questions was xactlv
tne opposite The argument OF usage, therefore falls to
Ue ground What IS the next reason The Committee
Of avs aou Means Is to furnish factsWba right has
mat Committee TO give facts? We are TO look 10 fbe
secretary Tor The facts upon which the Secretary has
acted. when we have his reasons, what more do we
want! Why II is said that there be Report, echoine
some pnbhc documents already before u.s. Well il i
Is TO there Tor political purposes let il be an
Let political Report, for political effect be made Bmt
one thing he dcsiredthat Renor o
,he Secretary and the Presidents Message-sboud not
be separated. ~
Mr. Lane said that all the gentlemen who had spoken
on s SUBJECT seemed 10 have the same object In view
All seemed disposed to meet the question and decide i
me only difference OF opinion seemed 10 be the
in "hich u should be DONE The gentleman from South
Carolina Mr. McDufie) had urged upon the House az
reason Tor referring TO Committee OF The Whole that
great and obvious principles might be settled Grea, and
obvious principIes Why, he Mr. L. had always houoh,
hA such principles fixed and settled as time
nho e'en'y ne saw none such be dete Fmined here.
he gentleman wished to show discrepancy betwee the
report OF The Secretary and the monbiv s,ports nj Tho
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