Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-02-16
Voc. xXsx.---No. De.

OF the injury done 90 them they may of gbt ronneI her
TO return to the Union subdue her. The, must also
have right 10 Judge whether she is about TO com
NIT will iunre theirs and, according admission f
they have right to judge after The injury is done they
fave right to Judge before it is done, and same
principle, may prevent it, The right the co States to-
Judge OF the right of Stue to sccedc, is founded
IN the principle OF seli-deencc according the admis-
sion OF gcntemen and be So it right awaysn
existence they may judge in all cases in which Their
/ safety concerned.
Under the Constitution, said Mr. w no STATE can =,
pleasure, dissolve her conneXion with her sister States
The duties of the people OF the States the United
were prescribed by themselves, and full all
the powers granted 10 the United States they are 10 tho
States IN those retained 10 them. Before the adoption
the Constitution of the United States LAYING out of view
the Articles OF Confederation, the powers given TO the
State Governments enabled them do all which go
vernments usually do,-tiey had the power declare
war-o con rac alianccs-Y imposts and dulicstokeeP
Standing arny,-to regulate commerce. sc. sc, but the
people OF the States believing that these powers
more correctly and henehcially executed 10y General
Government, took hein array from ,er Sudtc Govern
mentS; yes, took them away from their State Govern
men and granted them to other agents. The powers thus
akcnhy the people from the State and granted
to the United States have made perfect 60 lie
extent OF the powers granted, aud other lesser duty
binds them to the u States, than binds them the States
The same people who elected members To the Convei-
ton to form the governments ir the States, elected
bers the Conventions who formed or ratified the Con-
situCn or frame OF government for the United States
In the latter in the former case however they proceed
ed as separate and independent communities. Acting un-
der these two forms OF government, the people OF the
States at and the time elect their agents or re.
personalities administer the functions of govern
OF
each The dHnes assigned to these agents distinct
their powers apply different subiects,-but when en-
poyed, demand equal obedience and supported TO
same extent by the constitutional obligation OF de2
each The Obligations OF protection and allegiance are
the same under each government, and neither the go
vernment the citizen be released from this duty
but by the consent OF those who contracted il.
These said MIR. W., of the reasons which had
led his mind the conclusions that the right of pe0eeobc
secession is Incompatible with the existence of the Gene
raj Government and the obligations of the people OF the
States contracted by themselves the Constitution OF
the United States and cannot therefore, exist The other
modes in which the right of secession is derived he would
not attempt discuss farther than say, that the rirt
to resist oppression is right with which neither man
nor society OF men, as the people OF tile States,
partit is right 10 do ones self justice, in its very
nature is not capable OF being transferred, impaired
These gensral views he felt bound give order that
/ his might not be misunderstood.
Mr.. Mcdowell said he hoped before the que .on was
taken on the amendment OF the gentleman fom Halifax
dents Proclamation, he would specify the principles
which he objects.
principle IN the Proclamation wrong. lie disagreed
with the President from beginning to end.
MIR. Mcdowell said il the first time he had ever
known he aggregate expressed by tlle word The
only principles declared in the Proclamation were
those in regard TO notification and secession. " the
word some alluded to the former, MIR. Nc Dowell sup
posed that every gentleman in the House, with tic
exception Of the member from York agreed Is in the
Pres dent. III alluded 10 the latter be would agree
IN the di-approbaton expressed, lar related 10
some OF the arguments 10y which the President en-
, -
that he did not concur in of those arguments Mir.
Med. here read substitute for MI sims amendment,
which lac would offer should the House refuse 10 sdopt
] that gen emanS motion.
Mr. Sims said he would Withdraw the word some,
wh the concurrence OF the gentleman at whose sugges.
non lac had inserted ii-and allow the amendment
without modification, condeinning all the principles OF the
Proclamation, whether Of Modification secession or the
/ Arguments Oh which they founded,
Mr.. Ghoon did not wish TO interfere with The objects Of
any member He presumed had been his suggestion
that the gentleman from Halifax had inserted lie wor;
nd buf he IL.
ros OF retaining that phiaeoogy if it thought
I to alter It, Mr. G. differed from the gentleman from
Rockbrdge, who declared, that the Proclamation the
President contained but principles There were ma
ny principles involved in that document What the gen.
ilcnan from Rockbidge called arguments, Mr. Gh6son
called principles The President wishes to arrive
certain result lie denouuces nuGhcaton and the frst
position he lays down l., that this government formed
ny e people and not 10y tie States This MIR G. called
: principle, and II against which he Protested
Tie President also declares the citizens of seeded State
TO be traitors the United States If tiey choose to obey
the laws OF their State. Was not this pfnciole -
II appeared to Mr. G.. TO be There were others of
similar characters and the word sone had been inirodu-
ccd to avoid The very difficulty which Ibe gentleman
Rockhrdge had now brought up. II was with a view TO
bring tie parties together that he bad suggested tie word
to the gentleman from Halifax lie hoped the amend.
nent would be adopted in its present form.
Mr. Goo!e suggested dat The word some, was fnee-
CANT and that the word oil" had better be subshtuled
aud the words and conclusions inserted after The word
principles
hrer some further conversation, Mr. Sims accepted the
amendments proposed 10y Mr.. Goode. The motion of Mr.
Sims was then adopted as before stated.
Alter several motions, on which desullory CONVEX
saon took place
Mr.. Mcdowell said, single moments reflection had
induced him TO think hc hored under Misrepresentation
/ OF the amendment OF The gentleman from Halifax. IL
would he seen that IL condemned all the principles Of the
Proclamation. The sentence epGca aid had bo
seen its effect, he should not have voted Tor it,
Mr.. Marshall said understood by The House tina,
the amendment declared that tie principles of 9S did not
sanction all The principles Of tie Proclamation not advert.
ing 10 the latter part OF the sentence which il is de-
clued that they are III direct conflict with them-hat il
to say, with all Of them. lie did not think the gentleman
from MeclJcnbufg intended TO give that meaning to the
amendment.
Mr.. Goodo said The gentleman from Fauquier had done
him Justice IN supposiug ha he did Intend TO enrap
the House. lie jealous adj, ocae Of State Rights
6nt he would 90 nothing TO prevent fair expression OF
the views of members.
Alter considerable conversation in which Messrs. Brown
OF Pet, 81 1s, G0ode and Mcdowell participated
Mr. Peudle0n moved TO amend the amendment by in.
serling Tie ~Od m0ay previous 90 Tie them. But
general consent being required, it was not granted
Mr. Miller said e had been instructed 10 vote in favor
Of the Proclamation, and against Modification and he vas
willing on his own responsibility, TO vote for the resolu
lions 81 49, But how cotAd be vote Tor this oueoucra-
ted propositions The three questions ought have been
propoundcd sepsraeyDO you approve or not Of the re-
solutions Of 0S! DO you approve or not Of the Procla
matonf And DO you approve or not Of Nuilihcaton2-
lhe sentiments OF each member would have then been
iairy expressed But in W present form, he could not
vote under bis Instructions Tor Inc principles oi DO Pfoca
nation, without voting against the resolutions OF o.
Mr. Wcber said the objection Of the gentleman from
Boictouu objection 10 him. lie would ask what
principle OF the Proclamation not n conflict With the
resolutions Of 9S lie could vote for hc resolution 30
sood
Mr. nlcDoweU said tt,,t AZ Lc CO.. II ,,ri.- ..,