Herald of the times. [volume] (Newport, R.I.) 1830-1846, 1833-12-19


the absolute control ofthe national chest,
and At any time dip his hands into it, and
take out whatever he would. Now, Sir,
want this paper because it is IN the ma
tu,e Of instructions by the President to
the Secretary Of the Treasury on tins
yery question concerning the public mo-
ney. So viewing it, shall give the re-
solution my support. :.
MIR. Forsyth said, that, in his view,
the propriety or improperly Of the pro-
posed call depended on the use which
the Senate were expected to make oi
this paper. For the purpose OF inform
inr the Public it was not wanted ny the
Senate, for it was already public. We
do not call for the paper (said he) in or
der to have it before US, for it is already
before the world Why do we want to
have it officially before u.s. What oil'-
cial use can we make oil II! see h""e'
sir.
\ MIR Webster rose and said that per
hans. after the various admissions which
had now been made of the gennnenrss
of the paper, the Senator from Kentucky
m;cbt he induced to consider his pur-
nose as well answered Oh that point, as
il he retained the original phrase ol0"y
of his resolution. And In mod'hen
form, he (mr. w, did not feel any OBJ
lection to its adoption lie looked "t
the subject in light somewhat different
from that in which it was viewed 10y the
gentleman from Georgia. Ifthis was a
letter to the Heads OF Departments, 1t
could hardly be an official document,
and the Senate would have right to
call for it, His doubt was, whether It
was an official act, which, as such,
m;nht como before the Senate without
an EXPRESS call. If it was document
/ which might come before the Senate IN
an official form, then the presen. melton
minht have been considered premature
! But it could not be doubted by any one,
I that before the close of the session, and
; il was impossible to tell how soon, there
would be that before the Senate, whicn
would render it necessary to show no"
the removal Of the depostes had beer
effected. That time would nccess rli)
orriye. and he was desirous that all IN
formation on the subject should be com
municuted to the Senate. lie was
therefore influenced by two-ioid mo-
tive. In the first place, he was sa''s'ee
that this subject must become topic
discussion; and, secondly, he could no
view this document as strictly an oflcia
act of the President. 1t had not beer
read to the Cabinet only but to the whole
people. 1t appeared to embody 'nstruc
tions. 1t was a paper which did not es
sentialIy differ in its character from
proclamation. After some further re
marks, mr.. Webster suggested that tht
part of the resolution which inquired n!
to the cenuineness Of the paper, land whlcl
carried on its face an implication, shoult
be stricken out, and that the genuine
ness of the paper should be taken as ad
mited, and that the proposition shoul,
be merely call Tor the paper. ",'i
the consent, therefore, OF the Senato
from Kentucky, and certainly not with
out it, he would move to amend the reso
luton, by striking out all alter the wor'
"Resolved," and inserting as follows:
"Thst the President be requested to send
the Senate n copy Of the paper which had pee
= published, and which purports to have been 'ea
by him TO the Heads Of the Executive DePar'
uI.ut., dated the sth day Of September last, re
latin. TO the removal of the dcposles OF the pun
lie money from the Bank Of the United States an
, its Oiices.'
/. Mr.. Clay said he believed there wa
no instance of an official paper emaha'
, inp from the President, having been sci
n TO either House without a eau LOT
G production. 1t was the PaIllnmentar
i usage, not only here but in England an
n France, and in all countries, to max
: calls for official papers. There was n
instance in which congress had used an
v paper, purrorting to be an official ono
r without previously calling on the Exec
n utiye to lay copy Of such paper bel"'
e them. All this was according I" "a
: liamentary usage. All proclamation
from the celebrated proclamation OF net
: traliiy of W ashington, to this time, IA
8 all been brought before congress ny
r call from one branch or the other. Sue
e was the case with all papers emana'',
: from authority. The motion which
y. had made, therefore, was IN coniorml
- TO usage, and was the mos, respect
D. Course To the President himself. "A
m per might be published surrep'itious'
,e and yet bear on its face the stamp oil
- thoritv. 1t was most proper to go
to once to the hig hes. source and obta
Mt the fact.
nj As to the uses which were to be ma
rs of this paper, nothing seemed to run
on the head of the gentleman 'rom Geore
of but the idea of impeachment. This
.. peared TO be the only idea he could &C
he meet with the call. But there were n
~ a,har r,rnoses. Might il not be i