Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1833-02-14

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IN SENATE

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49, yesterday by Mr.. PotspfxTt"
pr.oipea. That the President o the om'e9
~.X ,.oue.,od to cause 70 be laid before ihe &c.
s.n,., al ire orders which have been gwen 10
.,n..n,niine o,hcer oi the military forces as
.ss.d IN and near 10 the city Of Charleston, South
~"sSs.. anil also COPIES of the or'les ~heh nav
- .a,e, IN Inc Commander II the Naval iefc'a
...,,hl.d IN the hsrl,or of Charleston parilcui"f-
:, ..,ch ctJcrs If any such have been gwen 10
-, the constituted authorities oi the siaie 81
C.,,h can-,pa within the chartered hints Oh saio
State"
The resolution beinc read-
Mr. GRUNpY said be was IN it'or OF 'hh mum
oh,c, Of the r,-suo,o hT, h. @ishei t. pfoi''s'
modification az 4 before II wns ad"IfPd ne hts'
.-.,, :, ,bs resolution he said, did not leave To the
Executive tina, discretion us To Inc extent g'a p'''
,rr cr,b. ,nlornn,ion 10 be communicated, which
was always allowed in resolutions % 'nis tna, u'a'
,o,li,e might be required from the Executive dsl'
rimen,a TO the PUBLIC interest 90 TINS efeas''h'
ls would barely say without pretending 10 Any
,rf,culer I'm, Wedge ~ he subject, that he befs-
A ,he answer ,o .ho resolution, as be should pre-
,osc n, n,nd,fy IT. would be satisfactory 10 The eoh.
,em.n ao1 tho Senate His design IN moving m
amendment, was moi to prevent the copies OF az
,,q,,,ry orders ISSUED by the Government from be-
mr. sent TO the Senate, but 10 put II ~ the power OF
tbe Executive wlihou, bong sabjec' TO the 'mputa'
ZION of refusing TO comply with request 81 t1e
Senele. 10 withhold nny thng connected with the
PAPERS called for which might involve private IL
,liyiduas For himself, he was foo Withholding
nothing that il was proper to ask for, operate no"
i; might Ifihero any order affecting The con
s,,tued authorities Of -ou,b Carolina, especially,
be though, III, enato and the People ought 10 have
them. without any res rvallon. Mi. e. then NOV
cd TO amend the resolution, by inserting after the
words before the Senate the words 80 Tar rs
mcy in his Judgment be compatible whh the pubic
interest"
Mr.. POINDEXTER said he though, yesterday,
from indie s,ions thea given that this call placed
the gentleman from Tennessee IN an awkward
nredicament and he was now sure of IT, The a.
,nrndmen, nos proposedby nm was calculated 10
.Lstr,y the eiIec, of the resolution altogether Ne
denied the proportion that IN regard to any orders
Ia an officer Of the army or the navy IN time OF
oc.ee il mad been usual or was propc, TO make
anv sxeep'on whatever IN calls npon the Execu-
I'VE for uforma,,ou There were two classes OF
oasssin which when calls Nert mpdc upon the Ex
ecutive for information, exceptions were made th,
one in tho case OF pending treaty, when DIS
closure Of diplomatic pnpors or correspondence
BY the Executive, migl be detrimental 10 the pub
lie interest," In which case n discretion AS to that
point was usually lefi 10 the Executive. The 9th
a. class Of casos was when IN time Of war cal
was nsdo upon the Executive for cop,es Of order
issued 70 the commanding otbc,r at any particular
station, in which il wa indispensably neces
say 70 leave 70 tho Executive dIsVsstion to with
hold them or any part Of them, because the DIS
closure Of them mig h, give warning TO uIc enemy
&C injurously TO the interest Of OIL own cau..
But 10 time ofpro!ound pence with all the world
AND al home, aud u, time when 10 act Of violence
had been committed by any portion Of the Amer
can people; when the s,rong arm Of the Leglsln
lure was stretched out to the Leg ia,ure Of ono
the Suites of tho Union commanding them TO re
trace their steps or abide the pains and penalties
ueer ~. and when we sec the assembly ofland IN,
aayul fus''s on tba station, and wan, u ask why IN
Exeeutiyt assemblies them, aud what they are Il
do, Oh, says the gentleman, pay keep these order
secret Sir what mischief can proceed, ~ Tin Inn
ofpeace, from giving publicity to the orders 10 tn
commanding officers Of those forces suppose cas-
go suppose that an order should have been issued Il
the military, ifthc Legislature Of the State of S
Carolina should attempt TO assemble, TO 80 INT
sheir halls and dispense .fem, or that an ode
should have been issued 10 capture certain indv,d
usls and dispose ofthcm under tae second seoiion
Gentlemen may smile a, that, but suy suppus
the case Of orders having been Issued such lhos
which were issued under the Administrator .
Lord North for the seizure OF particular refructor,
Individuals ought not such things 10 te known
twill not shy why gentlemen vince ut this coli
itmay appear, ou . full disclosure, that there Il
something rotten N the State of Deninark--yts
rotten which will nU bear examination. 1t ma,
appear that the Executive is disposal to Excite dt,
cord and civil wal IN the South, III order to have
pretext To march an army TO oyorrun The country
al l,cnI, L..
why no, let the resolution pass as originally mov
edl Coupled with the amendment of the gentle
man FROM Tennessee, MIR z. said he would run
draw his resolution If he ooud) lie wou,
thank that gentleman, he said or any other TO tel
him what exception could Ne taken 10 the cal
which it proposed, in time Of profound peace
when the answer 10 II could no, operate 70 the pre-
judce Of our fore IN relations, &c We have late
" heard some strange doctrines Mr. 2 said abo,
State sovereignty and the supremacy Of the Gene
raj Government and il not checked they viii ulli
ma,ely creep up 10 the supreme head Of The Govern
n,enl, which wili be found granting privileges, an,
Issuing orders To the People, instead of deriving
authority and instruction t,om them, &c lie wa
sorry to see this opposition to his reasonable mo
ton it seemed to b. indicative ola disposition Il
shrond IN secresy the movements of the Executive
authority and, il tins amendment should be ias
tened upon his motion, he should take the liberty
N further discussion of drawing his own ,nfcren
ces as 10 the nature of the orders which gentlemen
dase not cal for Sir, said (Mr. P) there was a
diawing-rooo last night, and grea, anxiety wal
manifested, 1t is said, on the pat of some gentle
men, TO get the ear Ct the President.
nj. GRUMPY said, that whenever the gentle
man from Mississippi should think proper to draw
the differences VIII I'll he had alluded TO- they Shout,
b. met with positive denial Mr.. G. would un
der,ake to say, with the little information that h,
had tina, no military movement had been made b,
the Executive either against individuals or agans
the authority Of the State of South Carolina And
while the gentleman from Mississippi protested st
great an anxiety TO prevent or avert civil strife