Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-01-22

had been differently construed he had Yesterday proposed
the amendment, which adopted, aud which declared
that we were not TO be considered nmating to South
Carolina that she ought take any step calculated TO
danger the Union. lie had heretofore deemed il no
cessary TO touch this subject OF secession. 1t would be
recoectcd that he had declined on former occasion o
discuss it. He had thought that should be admonished
by the present critical posture affairs TO be silent where
our language might be msconsrleJ by those who wore
already sufficiently excited. South Carolina had nuieh
an act OF Congress, and declared her intention Of scccd
ing from the Union II force employed Gas he trusted
II would not be) by the General Governments Mr.. c.
thought however that the aspect of this question
now changed The right of a State secede under any
circumstances was brought directly before the House by
the gentleman from Brooke and the question ought not
now TO be binked met by any indirccon We should
place virginia rectuS az cuid He did not consider the
proposition of the gentleman from Brooke as presenting M
question properly. The friends OF State Rights should be
allowed to present it for themselves Mr. g. did not
now intend TO discuss this question: indeed ra State had
no other right than to dissolve the Union State roLt.
were not worth discussing. All gentlemen admitted tina,
this right OF secession revolution or tebeon inst a,
they pleased To call It, existed in the last extremity. 1t
was difference about words The true question wa.
whether the States had the right Judge of violations of
ne leueraI competition II they could Judge, it was
surely competent tor them decide and maintain their
decision The remedy by which they might protect their
cluZens, must depend the nature OF the aggression from
me ederai Government While he did approve the re.
medy oil ) Carolina and thought dang erous both TO the
onion, and the rights of the States themseves-vet
SCUM carolina as sovereign State had certainly the same
right which Virginia bad often exercised TO iulgc of
SioauonS OF the Federal Constitution. This remedy OF
South Carolina as he understood it, was impraccable he
inougn'. IL contemplated Convention OF the Slaies-
Tor WhaC III Tie States refuse lancet in Convention
men the measure failed; and il they met and affirmed or
uSanrncd Tie power in question, did the State multi
{R 1'a, 10 iod lis sovereign rights, under the sanction
VI he federal compact lie could not agree with the gen
ueman from Petersburg that the RICH oil State depcnd,d
on The permission OF the other States TO exercise them
nat as no right which could be controlled at the plea
sure oil another. he would not discuss grave subject
nj TINS Time Ii ought not however. be acted on with
OUT due deliberations and lac did think IT, question was
presented as 1t should be- by the proposition OF the gentle
man from Brooke.
Mr. Carter OF r. s. l.. suggested that Mr. G's remarks
draw his PROPOSE ion.
from Brooke had been withdrawn
Mr. BrodnaN said that the ultimate object was IN n;
vide tue 9TH resolution and strike out portion of IT, il
would be as well arrived at by making the question
OH me Recommendation test question. The object was
10 sNe out That passage of the resolution which disenls
lroh The principle avowed in tho Proclarnation that the
Cnzen oil seeded State, who obeys the laws OF the State
Government In violation OF the laws OF the United States
Is gully OF treason The question could be come nt nj
ohce-or every member who opposed to the fact and
oph!on stated IN that passage, would vote Tor the re-
considerations lie did not think there was one mem
Der In The House-he did think there was one man in
virginia VINO would sustain the position that, when a
STATE had declared that the tie which bound her TO the
oloh was dissolved, her citizens would be liable 10 pun
shhleht Tor treason for obedience To the laws of the
oae ~ was not remarkable that the passage in The re
so'uuoh should be opposed. But did seem remarkable
at ose who agreed in the great principles of State
Rights should be found splitting OH mi nor points I'm the
9TH resolution the right of secession was no further ionc
Gu lhah II had been in the Proclamation The previ-
Gus part OF the resolution that we disapproye OF some
oil the principles OF the Proclamaon hat principles
DO we dlsapprove OF Those in relation 10 the formation
Oh ,he government and the liability of citizen ola Sc
ceded State TO be punished for il he obey the laws
III own state IN preference TO those of the United States
ny suihlhg out Tie passage in tine resolution then YOU
WIN De made first 10 disapprove those principles and then
W s',eW Dy your vote an entirely different opinion. He
would add but remark: There were MANY who ac
NoWedged the right OF State TO secedc but appended
10 lie right Ger ain conditions which rendered it vaueless
existence o the right aud the expectancy of its
eclse were distinct questions; and the case of South
& ue I1,'er was oil paramount importance. 1t had
Deen repeatedly said that State had riyht 10 serede.
o' NOT without the Constitution had been violated But
VINO was 10 Judge OF that violation; thlt the nutshell
IN winch all the difficulty lay. Every body admitted the
Sh IN one way or another although they differed Oh the
une and manner otcalng il into action lie hoped zen
uemeh would make this test vote, and all those who
were In favor OF retaining the resolution at present
would vote against the re Reconsideration
Mr.. Carter OF II. & H., said the gentleman from Din
wdde was mistaken if he supposed lha he had intended
to emborras The action OF the House the resolution
Mr. Brodnax said he did suppose so,
MIR. Carter OF II. & l.. said lie wished merely TO pu,
the question before the House whether they had not bet
say nothing the subject secession Flo hoped all
who agreed with him in the propriey OF leaving that sub
ect untouched would for the re- consideration and
the subsequent division of the question on striking out II
was true that the passage i'll the 9Th resolution, which
alluson had been made, passed the preliminary cues
ton OF secesson but spoke of the protecto of an ind
yidual under that right ii spoke of result without de
clarng opinion TO the process. MIR. c. wished that
there should be no confusion or doubt The ubj ctbu
that this very difficult doctrine o secession should be Left
where the House had found il.
MIR. Goode regretted that he could not accede to the
motion OF the gentleman from II. and l.. II that ques-
ton was decided in the affirmative, they should come
back TO the very point which they started from this morn
ing. There another view OF the subject which ought
TO prevent members from voting this motion If the
consideration should Nc carried, we then succeed
IN preventing the Acknowledgement of the 7h resolution
the gentleman from Brooke again comes down upon us
with his propositions and he il thus afforded two chances
Of carrying his point That gentlemen does rest con
tented with defeat beat him-but he will not STAY
beaten Mr. G. wished he placed OH fair ground with
the gentleman from Brooke.
Mr.. Sims asked for the Ayes and Noes (Which were
orered) and that this should be made test question
MIR. Campbell said that when the subject was first i'm.
troduced into tine House, the object declared TO he
the action the part of this State as mediator between
the concnding parties. Tic had been in favor of action
Tor That object and had supposed the great end proposed
was the restoration OF peace, aud the preservation of the
Union But they had departed from the object at first en-
with the friends OF the Select Commuters Report TO es
absh abstract principles having direct tendency to
open the door to dissolution OF the Union
MIR. BrOdnaX enqured whether the gentleman from
Brooke intended to that the object OF the friends
OF the measure TO destroy the Union
Mr.. Campbell said he did not
Mr. Bronax said that if such was the meaning of the
genemans remark lie could only say that his own mo-
tyes In all he had done this question: would bear COM
Parson with those Of the gentleman.
MIR. Campbell said he owed nothing to the courtesy of
me gentleman from Dinwidie, and he asked 10 favor al
his hands lie had said the object for which they were
debating had been changed. The original object was me-
dalton But the resolution, now yYorded would de.
care 10 SOuth Carolina that opinions ere favorable
to the course she had adopted the future and give nor
encouragement to persist in her design Of secession II