Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-02-12

ing The orders given tho commanders OF these forces
IL be supposed that orders had been given dperse
the Legislature We may suppose that orders had been
issued apprehend certain obnoxious individuals in that
State, and execute them under the second section Sup
pose individuals had been prescribed by name in these
orders had been done by Lord North; lie would not
say that such things had actually been done hut from
the wincing of gentlemen il obvious that there
something ,otten. lie satisfied that it the inen.
ton OF the President TO endeavor raise civil
State OF South Carolina, for tile purpose OF aoding him
an apology Tor marching army into that State. lf no
orders bad been given which were improper, why
should they bc kept secret? lie regretted the amend
men II It was Ia his power, after should DO adopted,
hc would withdraw the resolution. At all events, he
should be justified in drawing his inlerences as to the
character the orders. He could not say Ly whom ,he
amendment had been suggested; but lac had heard tina,
the President held drawing room last night.
MIR. Grundy would meet all differences which mig ht be
drawn by the gentleman as to any thing improper being
contained in the orders transmitted TO the military
officers in South Carolina by positive denial IL
derook to say that no such orders had been given lie
deprecated every thing which might occasion for civil
strife among the citizens of South Carolna in their present
state OF excitement. IL was result he anxious TO
guard against as Tar as might be in his power. Suppose
tina, information had heen received from citizens OF The
State which recc order founded upon IT, would
II not be proper omit the names of individuals giving
such information! Would not different course, this
time, give rise state of feeling which would probably
lead TO bloodshsd II the of individuals re-
cited in orders having given the information which
casioned them, would the gentleman from Mississippi wish
them stated?
! MIR. PondeNter said he wanted the whole and every
part of the orders
Mr.. Grundy had no objection TO placing the whole Of
every ORDER FAR related the of the Executive
the power Of the gentleman. But any recital Of conden
ual information which might be contained in order,
ought not to be given. Consequences might follow from
such disclosure which ght be avoided Before gen
uemen INDUCED themselves in denouncug the orders
which had been issued 10 the officers i'm South Carolina
they had better wait until the orders themselves In
the mean mo, he could the that there moth
ing warike contained in them. There orders
but OF the most pacific character Sill there
ton necessary he reposed the President relative TO the
communication OF them in peace. Suppose am Off
Ger IN > Carolina had manifested improper degree
eehg IN FAVOR oil one oil the parties, which now unhappy
existed there would the gentleman require that the order
recalling the officer should be laid before the Sen.tei
Mr. PoindeXter answered in the affirmative
Mr.. Grundy could perceive sufficient reason for de-
grading officer by such course. He had no olicc-
ton calling the Executive for all substantive orders
relating TO the action movement of the forces in South
Carona-bu where any orders related information re-
ceived from A. b. or D-lhe communication of such facts
could do good, and might DO mischief He should pro-
pose TO extend the call contained in the resolution by
ing TOR all orders, if any such had been given, TO act
against tho constituted authorities of S Carolina He had
no apprehension that the Prelen, had transcribed his
thoy. Gentlemen would do as well 10 forbcar from the
indulgence OF such remarks related punishment under
INC ~ sec The whole course of the Executive in relation
TO the State of :. Carolina had been moderate and
conciliatory. Ii believed by most those who had
examined the subject that the President under Xsnp
laws, possessed all the power proposed be given him by
the act before the Senate, excepting that conferred
in the beginning OF the first section But the case was a
new one, and the President had referred LAYING be
lore Congress for IFS consideration. Did this course look
like executing citizens under the 2nd secion' He was
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throw light on this subject placed before the Senate
lie was glad the gentleman from Mississippi MIR Poin-
dexierl had proposed the resolution Should be with
drawn ne would himself again offer it, As IN the ineren-
ccs which the gentleman proposed draw from the nfor-
nation he must acknowledge his inability to understand
| his remarks on That subject
Mr. Pondexter had sail, that r the Information was
withheld, lac should be jusable in drawing his own in
icrcnces.
Mr. Grundy could assure the gentleman thai there ,vos
no wish to conceal any of the Executive relative 10 the
state oil South Carolina. But at the time it might
he proper TO protect the citizens of that State dsco-
sures II any such had been made which mis- cause the
to rush TO immediate battle with another Every or
der issued by tho Executive he willing should be laid
before lhe Senate The alusion made by the gentleman
to the Notwithstanding room, he did not COMPREHEND
FROM I'll health he had not been able to attend bu, if
gentleman did, he hoped he had enjoyed himself
Mr. Calhoun was greatly surprized by the objection To
the resolution in its present shape. 1t did for
word OF private correspondence But the Senator from.
Tennessee says that orders may have been founded upon
the correspondence OF individuals whose names may he
stated in the ORDER H. was astonished at the remark
was he TO understand that military naval orders had re-
suited from correspondence with party in the State of
South Carolina? What Is the Chief Magistrate of the
u States in correspondence with parties deeply excited
dS South Carolina The disclosure extraorlna-
ry--regarding it, he did, semi official character
it could not fail to have an important influence else.
II o'clock having arrived
The Chair stated that by the construction he had plac-
ed upon the rule recently adopted relative to The Spec
Orders, the Chair directed call at IL o'clock each
day.
After some remarks between Messrs King Calbouo
smith AMI Foot upon the construction of the rule
MIR Grundy inquired whether his reply TO the remarks
OF The Senator from South Carolina mir Calhoun upon
me resolution must he suspended until to- morrow.
The Chair was anxious to learn whether his consiruc-
ton OF the rule would be appealed by any Senator
MIR King said gentlemen had now been before appised
oil The imperative terms in which the rule had been word
ed Tor the FIRST time. lie satisfied and he believed
other gentlemen were, that the construction eiyen to il NV
the Chair correct
Mr. PondeXte moved to lay the special order on the
table Tor the purpose of proceeding dispose the
solution at this time.
This motion was lost-ayes H. roes 20
SPECIAL ORDER.
The bill urheT 10 provide for the collection of The lu-
ues on imports, was then taken up.
Mr. W ebster sid the Senator from North Carolina W no
mad me Hoor last evening, MIR Mangum being pre-
sent he had risen for the purpose setting one mater in
| It's proper light. There anecdoe respecting the
meeting OF two vessels al OF which was English
AMI ire other American, after he declaration of war
The American communicated the first information of that
EVEN TO tie Englishman, who enquired why war had
oeeh declared! he American replied that thought
necessary 10 declare in order produce better IN
rsandng between the parties Alter the charges that
had been urged against the bill by Senators who had been
understood 10 be high in the Executive confidence after
the hard names and harsh epthes hd had been applied
10 u and to the Committee who had reporied hos.
tors ught to be informed that this bin founded
upon the recon menditon TIE President That or Ger
was charged by The consu ion with the execution of III
laws, and had, IN discharge bis duty commune sed to
me senate di resistance 10 Tie laws bad threat
ened, which was not likely TO be overcome by the
ordIhary means and powers OF the government. Tie
message had been referred the Judiciary Commit.
particular exceeded the Executive recommendation
Yet, the whole opposition iI,c