Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-01-01

matter no had referred tho Speaker who had said that
although courtesy allowed the committee TO amend their
report, the gentleman from Fauquier had right TO submit
his substitute II lac fit TO DO so.
MIR. Dade did not think there had been any improperly
in the oceedngs The question could now be taken ON
the substitute, aud il it should not be adopted the amend.
mcnts 10 the report could then be offered
Mr. Banks explained the opinion which he had given
TO the point oi order IL the parliamentary usage
matter Of courtesy allow the friends OF measure when
in committee o the whole TO amend il before other mo-
tons were made But an individual had right claim
that the House should receive his motion The motion OF
the gentleman from Fauquer received, and the cues
ton then arose the amendment to the substitute, and
the discussion of that question undou bedy in order
he gentleman from Dinwiddie mistaken in suppo>ng
that he could now to amend the original report The
substitute as amended had the precedence and il the
House voted that down. then the original report would be
open TO amendment AS to the merits OF the original
port, they were not now under consideration.
Mt Moore asked the opinion of the gentleman last up
whether he (Mr had been In order in his rema ks in
discussing the merits of the original report
The Speaker said, that the question before the House
was as to the relative merits OF the two propositions and
II any sentiments oil the original report conflict
with the other proposition, in order discuss them
MIR Brodnax said, there mistake In the object
lac had in view in his former remarks lie merely desi
red 10 know whether the gentlemen from Rockbdge
TO be permitted 10 discuss the merits the report now OF
whether its friends should first be allowed to put in IN.
shape in WHICH they should wish TO assume before il
became the subject OF debate lac question on the sub
stue might now be put, and he wouli merely saw that
was The intention oil the committee 10 amend their
port
Mr.. Moore said that he had no wish to obstruct the
wishes OF the committee His object was that, as the
views OF the Chairman OF the committee had gone abroad
the views entertained by those the other side should
also be heard as early possible. lie would withdraw
his amendment rather than oppose the wishes o the COM
mittec.
Cries of MONO"
Mr. Witcher weuld merely say that il the gentleman
wished the Impression to the public that the House
was in favor oil his amendment would give an erroneous
view of the opinions OF the House. lie (AIr W. had
voted Tor the amendment OF the gentleman from Rock
bridge, (hong he decidedly in favor of the report
oil the connittee because he should prefer the substi
tute with that amendment TO the substitute without it,
The question was then put the substitute amend
ed and decided in the negative, Ayes 81, Noes &c.
Mr.. Brodnax moved TO amend the 18th resolution of the
report, the last clause of that resolution reads thus: ~
not only unequain their operation. H. the Tariff laws
oppressive and consequently mex pcdient but are 6eep
Ell by large majority Of The peopke O/ prginia 10 be
contrary to the spirit true intent and meaning ede
raj compact. THE words in italics those proposed
by MIR. Brodnax, as his amendment
Mr. Brodnax said that the words which he wished TO
insert III the resolution the identical OLA for
resolution oil the Virginia Legislature His reason
tor desiring 10 use this phraseology that il had been
used by our ioreahers. For while he was not inclined
TO depart from their principles, he also in favor Of
using their language whenever practicable to do so
Another reason for this amendment that he believed
II affirmed the TRUTH which he supposed would at
tempt to deny Even the gentleman from Rockbridgc-to
whose speech Mr. b. did notiutend now reply-atough
he presumed that speech would in proper time he noticed
according TO its meseven that gentleman he believed
admitted that the passage by Congress of oppressive and
unequal laws was contrary the spirit OF the constitution
That the Tariff was such lawand that il was believed
TO be such by large majority of the citizens OF the State
he thought would not be denied
Mr.. Campbell moved to amend the enjment bv stik
ing from the words TO be added, the word large He
dd not deny that in his opinion majority of the people of
Virginia did believe; but he did not think that
large The public opinion was as he believed IN
dergong change, and the time would come when LARGE
majority oil the people OF Virginia would believe the Tariff
Laws constitutional. This amendment was an express
sion OF opinion, and il ought 10 be exaggerated
Mr. brodnaX thought this being matter OF opinion was
searcely ueoateaoe question But he supposed tina;
every gentleman who did believe that there was large
majority of Virginia opposed the tariff would vote for his
amendment That the tariff laws unequal, was in
contestble and that unequal laws were violations of the
spirit OF the Constitution, was an idea advanced bv he
gentleman from Rockbridge himself Would the gentle
man from Brooke contend that laws which were passed
against the true intent of the Constitution which were I'M
equal IN their operation, and favored one branch OF indus
try in preference TO otherswee not unconstitutional
Mr.: Campbell said, ii was mere matter OF opinion who
ther mere was large majority OF the people Virginia
VINO believed that the Tariff laws unconsuiiona-
As TO the question whether those laws were passed accord
ing TO the intent of the constitutions il was dstinc
Iion 100 refined Tor his comprehension II was disine.
ton without difference II is intended to say that
large majo believe the Tariff laws are uncons ulionaI
Why not put in tangible language. II the gen leman
means to say that large majority opposed to laws
which violate natural lights, why so state IT, tor il will
be admitted by ALL But it seemed TO him that this amend.
ment was 10 lie made for feet and he did not wish TO aid
in producing that effect.
The question be ng put, Mr. Campbels motion to amead
was lost. Ayes 81, 81
The question then recurring on the amendment o0.red
by MIR. R5cdnsx-
Mr. Gimer said he should vote against The amen lmen
ne thought hey were going to far He did think
the duy OF this House say what were the orinCns Of
othels Iheir own opinions ought be given-and the
opinions oil The State were 10 be gathered tie
its representatives. He knew The opinions of his own
consul ueDts bur he was not aware hat the eave
strength oil the majority and minority on this subject
throughout the State. They constantly huctuaing
and 10 member would probably have il in his power TO
say what were their relative numbers Let US, said Mr.
un'r express our Owl opinions, and cOnine ourselves
10 mat tie was ready TO express the opinion he firmly
entertained that duties levied for the protection of one
branch oil industry IN preference others pdpabe
violation Of Tie spirit OF the constitution perversion OF
power TO one object, ich granted Tor bis
was his opinion. He hoped the House would proceed
% the object they had in view, by straight forward eans
That they would not endeavour get il by side ind
lie knew that such the intention OF the gentleman
who offered this motion that gentleman was willing 10
meet every hing fairly aud openy-bui the opinions
others might conflict this head and all minor ma tiers
ought TO be made TO yield 20 the great object in view
Time was precious, and should not be devoted TO uues
tons OF unnecessary detail.
Mr.. Brodnax said that time indeed precious
we might be allowed to make the remark drawn from the
gentleman from Abemarles observa tons festiud Icnfe
While the gentleman and himself agreed perfectly on the
man subject under consideration, lie regretted that they
should differ on this small point He thinks we are go
ing TOO FAR in saying whether the majority the people is
large against the consutionaity of the TayH But
Not So The opinions OF gentlemen who here, taken
individually, were OF no weight than tlose OF other
intelligent citizens. But the suppositon that they came
mere clothed with the mantle of those who sent gave
importance TO their acts aud expressions Of opinion And
he believed that when the ma ory of the people shol
change the members would change also. and that the
people would send to this House those who agreed with
them III sentiment II the duty of the Legislature