Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-02-16

gentleman kentucky
knew at he was IN no instance disposed go against
any motion which within the rules and rights Of the
Senate He stated that he had originated the bill which
reference had been made, by the instruction OF the
mittce.
The gentleman from Kentucky said this was not a bill
the object OF which was TO raise the revenue Now he
(Mr u though, that although bill might he nominally
bill TO reduce the revenue of it, provisions by
reducing duties, might operate to raise the amount
Ioi revenue collected He did not, however, read the
clause in the constitution the same way as the gentle
man from Kentucky did. To raise revenue, according
to the meaning OF that instrument was entirely distinct
ing from mere question OF the nodc alton of duties
We have bill which has been passed raise revenue
and this which Is now under consideration hill TO raise
revenue. The term, used in the sttuon iinplies
the collecting and bringing money into the Treasury
This was the view he had always taken of the meaning
the clause And he hoped that the Senator from Ken
lucky would excuse him, it, Oh the ayes aud being
taken, he should record his vote ia the negative MOI
that he was against the bill, although he had strong
doubts whether at this late period the session. il could
be productive OF any good conseq uences
Mr. Webster said, that by its title the Bill appear
ed TO be merely a bill TO modify the existing revenue
laws, 1t could hardly be rejected, bill for raising re
venue which ought to originate the other House since
there are many particulars, in which all the existing re-
venue laws might be modified without raising more or
less revenue AS the bill has not been read, (sad Mr.
W. we seem TO know more of it, regularly than its
title Pnrpors That title describes bill, which may
! vote for the leave.
But feel it my duty, Mr.. President, to say word or
two upon the measure ITSELF IL il impossible that this
proposition oil the honorable member from Kentucky should
not excite in the contrya very strong sensation ana ia
the relation in whict stand the subject am anxious
At an early moment TO say, that understand the
BILL from the genemans statement of it, the re are prnc
pies In II, TO which do not al present how can ever
concur understand the pan the result OF il will be
wen UNDERSTOOD surrender OF the power of dscrimina
ton, or stipulation not that power in the Iavin
duties on Imports, after the eight nine years have ex
pred ihis appears 10 10 he OF great moment
10 ne party 10 any such stipulation. The no.
norabe member admits that though there will be no posi-
1--WE surrender oil the power there will be stipulation not
ocNerc'se u; treaty OF peace and amity he says,
winch no American statesman can stand I'M 10
violate For one, sir am not really enter into tho
treaty. propose. far depends on me- 10 leave ali
our successors IN Congress free as we arc our
selves. ~ wv
! The honorable member from Kentucky says the Tariff
IN Imminent danger; that ii destroy ed this
It cannot hope TO survive the This may be So sir
nus may be So But it be So is because the Amer
can People VIII not sanction the Tariff; il they will
not wny' men, rIt cannot he sustained at all. am
not quite so despairug the honorable member seems TO
pc know nothing which has happened within the last
SIX or eight Inoutsy changing, sonateally the
oil the arf do not despair OF the success of an
to the American People, take just care of their own
interests, and to sacrve those vast interests which
nave grown up under the laws OF Congress-
But sur out OF respect to the economy the time of
the Senate will pursue these remark. no farther AT
SEM OUT WI take an opportunity, TO morrow, to lay on
,ne aoe Resolutions expressing my general opinions on
! this interesting subject o "
Mr. Forsyth said that as the Senator from Ken,uck y
would not strike out from the bill the clause which he
(Mr f. had considered exceponabe and M he found
himself IN situation not to be sustained by many votes
ne wished to ruy himself behind decision of the Vice
President (NlE Calhoun) former bill very similar TO
the present Senator from Missouri (Alr Bcnton) who
was not in his seat, asked leave TO bring in b;II IN
modify the duties alum salt The very o5iccion ,yas
made TO that bill, which he now made to the in,roduc
uoh OF the bill OF the Senator from Kentucky The Pre-
sident had decided that bill to regulate the duties on
Imports, in which salt item, was before the Sc
nate the bill OF the Senator from Missouri would not be
III order Mr Calhoun made explanation in a single
sentence, winch we did not catch There was clause
IN this bill to raise the duty. On this point his obecon
was 'ounued Gentlemen might place what construction
hey chose on the term raising Used separately
Tor raising reducing revenue the originating of the hill
IN uis House, was unconstitutional; hut when a bill en-
6raced both raising and reducing il was consu,ioaI
lie begged TO discam any idea of opposno ,be in,ro,
ton OF the bill on any other ground
MT DueNner made lew observations, which could not
DE distinctly heard, he spoke from under The o,er,
was understood as saying, that hewas prepared Ia
STATE whether he should the length OF this bill or moi
70 preserve The harmony OF the Union bur he WAS " H.
ing 10 make great concessions aud he would no, shut out
any proposition OF pacuc character he should vote in IA
yer OF granting leave 10 introduce the bull
Mr. Kane thought that unless the bill ntrcuceJ No "a,
suDec's Tor duty, ought not to be viewed AZ uncousti,
Ioh"i' lie made one or two other obseI vaons which
were nAudibe ia the gallery and ated ht bo I,n,,,,;
vote ior gran ing the leave asked
Mt Holmes said, he knew how measure TO reduce
revenue was measure TO raise revenue Raising is 10
m up, ana re ucing is to let down, how letting down
couh DC llIHng UP, he had yet learn He Womb he
wiling TO near gentle the BILL ard no one could IN,
courtesy refuse to lei bill be introduced which no one
va" "edru' IL all those members were TO be present
ed' who had voted for the protective system he
W Nno" IL ne was TO be Included in the Indictment;
anu u %, whether he lie tried betnre tho 4 IA
oil March, or afterwards. IL he was TO he ,rieJ aCar
wards he should be dead. lie had been long time
against The system, and OF the Southern
h"I warmly advocated it, At length Satan egI,ed him
and he did eat IL he to be tried after The Ali oi
March he could sit down his reserved rights: and
uey In The East knew how TO nullfy when tfrv conti
make pTOht by it, There they had the ADVANTAGE oC
- C"fona she had beat the BUSH but Georgia had col the
o ana now iia' Georgia has got the bird she saws 10 s
Carolina, don't bea the bus auY moro L.a = ~ -
the bird nave So'
Mr.. Chambers suggested to the Senator from Georgia
the Proprety Of Withdrawing tho call for the yeas and
nays. " ~ yeas anu
Mr. Foot referred TO the journals to show that the hill
referred 10 by The gentleman Georgia had been intro
been laid on the table. " ~ ~
Mr.. King said he had no idea that ,l,is o,os,;o ,i
come up Tor consideration to-day. He had listened IN ths
explanation oil the gentleman from Kentucky viii, an nm
pressure; anu, although he prepared TO take
"e oi' precisely IN the form in which il had been re.
Poe' ne hoped That the Speech honorable TO iat
ator, IN which he had come 10 the nj L,
would be initiated by all those who should coIIo -
For himself he wished this vexed question se,J
III peaceful and equitable manner The motion for Ie,ve
10 introduce blil he duever refused to Senator
SINCE ne had seat OH that floor. Tie Senate, from X
'ucRy might introduce his bill in any form he pleased IL
must go TO committee and that com mitee could
II III any way hey might think proper or report il without
amendment. and would then be discussed In Comrtcc
OF The Whole lie wished TO let this bin 90 ON in tic Or
urinary course, ard to see in progress vvIrh
/ try. r' " ''e 'oU''-
Mr. Forsyth expressed regret that he s,oo,d have Gro.
ated so much discussion lie did not oppose Inc obect l
the bill he would not have raised his voice nm ~ s,,t
Jecb the motion did not call him TO violate nroi
SION OF me Constitution Of the United States He II -.
'erfeh me senate TO case in which the Chair had
a mcmahon 10 decide that the bill could not be received
AZ The time when this innnaion was given bc M ~
" that fhas fa.s