Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1833-02-16
Virginia Legislature.
DEFERRED DEBATE Continued)
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said, Mr. Speaker, move that this Union DC dissolved
but did not ress-hs motion.
Mr.. McMulen said that he should for the motion
of the gentleman from Rockbidge postpone this reSo-
luton, not the ground that he not ready meet
the question He was ready TO meet it now or at any
other time But he thoughs had been correctly
by Others that this subject entered upon, it
would be douby discussed, it involved in the
solutions oil the gentleman from Petersburg which would
be taken up II Tar from him say, that
war ought 10 be made upon South Carolina We ought to
all in our power to avert the shedding OF the blood of
our brehrenand Virginia should do all TO prevent such
consummation that she could do in Jle character OF a
mediator.
MIR. Wallace said he should vote against the postpone
men', as he wished to have the questions propounded
pora,cly He DESTROYS that the gentleman from lla-
hlaX should modify his motion TO amend
The motion TO postpone then rejected and the
question recurring on the motion OF Mr. Sims to amend
the amendment OF Mr. Wallace,
Mr.. Campbell expressed hope that both the amend
ments would he Withdrawn, il il intended 10 give to
the main resolution any intrinsic force Those OBJ
jected TO amendments would not vote for the resoI
ton, and thus the that would be smaller lie
again repeated that il the question put the ques
tons distinctly, he was ready to vote upon them.
Mr.. Faulkner entirely concuTed with the gentleman
from Brooke. Ii the gentleman from Fauquier did
withdraw his moon he should vote against both amend
ments.
MIR Lefier concurrod with both of the gentlemen who
last spoke. lie had all along been OF opinion that Yr-
ginia ought TO act neutral ground. Ii not her
part throw either of the pan tiesbu sim
ply request s. arona suspend her Ordinance un-
ill., mghtuow be reasonably expected, the Tariff should
be reduced. IL had thought from the first that such
ought 10 he pursued; and he believed by the
pcct which the proceedings OF the House had now
ed, after long aud uess debate-the they had arrv-
ed a point at which they could act with dignity. He
was entirely in favor OF Affirming the principles OF 93
and '99. lie had always felt disposition sustain
them, and he should do with pleasure. But he
wished 20 avoid casting either OF the par les
the contest We not the enemies of either, aud is
unnecessary to censure either Ii we express dppro-
baton the measures South Carolina we shall offend
her, and shall be looked by her enemy And 1t
we declare disapprobaon OF the principles OF the
Proclamation, come in collision with the Northern
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opinions OF the President, who had done to harmo-
nze the conflicting interests of the country,
store peace and harmony among than il in the
power OF any other man to do His feelings ought not
10 be haraSsed this subject-nor the difficulty
cacy OF his duties in the present crisis, increased ag-
gravaed by hberal censure It, them the House adopt
ed the principles OF '9S, they would do all they ought
do-and fix the Virginia principles of State rights
firm basis.
Mr. GAaIer said, that as the resolution and amend
ments stood, they contained precisely his sentiments
He felt himself bound TO make this declarations ulthous
II might come in conflict with and inure his professional
business Bot out OF regard TO the opinions OF his
stuents, he should vote against the amendme offered
by the gentleman from Halifax.
Mr.. Brown oil Pet, said that he had supposed, when
his proposition postponed this morndg the subject
to sleep until Tomorrow but il had up in a
new form. If the resolution offered was carried
to-day, he presumed motion would be made to-m morrow
TO postpone indefinitely his proposition, ii would have
been superseded lie would under other circumstances,
fJr this resolutions but surprising the iuten-
ton of the House to take up another form o-Inorrow
he would to test the question: TO lay the table
/
o" it Tomorrow ina different FORM would support Tins mo-
ton.
Mr. Booker hoped the motion would not he adopted
His motive in Offering his resolution had been simply
obtain the OF the House the doctrines of 9S-
But now believing that the amendments oil red would
make his resolution acreptable he should vote for both
And IT, as he hoped this amended proposition might SUI
persede the Whole subject he should be well pleased as
IN that case they would be in sight OF land lie hoped
therefore, that the House would upon this matter
and close il il possible.
The motion toI lay The table rejected
Mr. Marshall suggested TO his friend aud colleague the
pFopney oil Withdrawing his amendment, the suppos-
ton uat the gentleman from Halifax would also with
draw his motion lie made this request the principle
That II was sufficient to act subject
that the propositions of the.two gentlemen could pre-
sented separately hereafter lie prepared to vote on
each i'm detached form.
Mr. Wallace said, he would Withdraw his amendment
in order TO satisfy his friends and the gentlemen on the
other side hc could he assured by them, that would
be acted upon a distinct subject
Mr. Pendleton said he would renew the amendment OF
the gentleman from Fauqnicr, aud accept the amendment
OF the gentleman from HALIFAX.
The Speaker said, the amendment OF the member from
Fauquier not withdrawn, and could be unless by
the unanimous consent OF the House.
MIR. Wallace said il necessary in Justice to him
SELF that he should his for the vote he was
about TO give lie had from The first introducdon-of the
subject before the House. declared that the Proclamation
OF the President formed Part of the ground in dispute
between the United States and South Carolina that
the conucXiOn OF ii with the proposed mediation was i'm
proper for the reasons he had given the first meeting
The committee on Federal Relations, and on several
sons since. He had heard nothing which induced him to
doubt the correctness OF those views he should there.
fore vote against the amendment amended
He would take leave at thdt time draw the attention
Of the House to the question, which had been long de-
bated, as it was presented in the Proclamation IL said
he had heard but gentlemen in all that had atraened
~, claim the right OF secession TO be constitutional right
II this fact iustes any Inference is that gentlemen are
much IN their opinions the Of the Presi-
dent than they imagine for IL those who do not concur
in The opinion that secession IS constitution right will
analyze their opinions and hs, they will hnd the differ.
between them be very broad or Distinct lie
did not think that the propositions or conclusions Of fine
President had been frankly dealt by This position that
and The other, had been attributed him and presented
isolated principles when IL taken with the body OF the
Proclamation, they would be Invested OF the bearing they
may have standing alone We know, said MIR w. hat
nothing il easier than TO tear word sentiment from its
context, aud give t meaning u does bear when uni
ted with others The President says-tst that the righ
Of State 10 sccede Is not peaceable rght2i, that IL
not constitutional ght-and Bill that IL is revolutona.
W right ln these views he concurred with him while
hc did not assent 70 points taken in tc Pfoclsua-
lion.
The right Of peoce06ie secession, said Mr. " cannot
exist but by the consent OF the There 40 peri
cd fixed upon n the Constitutions Cor the termination ofhe
allegiance Of the people of the States and ali other
gOyernmens II must continue untii it is Withdrawn by
change Of the government Is dispensed with The OBJ
laws, aud be ahu and true 90 their country he
Withdrawn at the mere will sf the people Of State
they can, then they may seeca state Of war, sccode from
the Union, and relieve themselves Of their portion of ,
common burdens. As it's not to be expected, that a OBJ,
States will in declaring war. may reasoa
bly, expect, al things considered that that period will b
selected for secession. Gentlemen say, however that
State caRDot At such fine secede because she does
injury TO the other Satcs but who is to Judge wheHc