Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1832-12-18

% chair said that thar wouiu uot Ve III Woe''
Inc Is .s.d that he regretted that he
Mr.; =. found traascending the boundaries OF
ACa' y M. opinion Of the gentleman from len
Ordsr I" ,.So wss. he knew, great Judge OF or
ns''es, 81 himself q very orderly member OF the
o. ' re regretted that such gentleman
as .oo.ider him cat Of order. He was about
'n0u'u hrs regret that any member OF that
exp lid declare himself satisfied with all
t'a's .,,nsnt. contained IN that proclamation
ne 'sn '.m,,;,u that declared that Representa-
81 v s". No, the representative Of his own con-
T's Chair decided the gentleman to be out OF
The proclainatioa was not before the
S"'' ,oI the discussion Of il was irrelevant to
IT, -; ., nr,posed for the ac'ion OF the House.
Ne e. ,I n,niel said he had intenjed to discuss the
t;.rt Of doubtful powers; and was gong 10
wv IN 10 his aid the opinions OF the President
Wv" ss7or,s,ed in a certain paper. He had been
s.sf ak, whether the doctrine that a Repre-
s,,;v, was a Representatives, not OF his own
,;,,s,ts, but Of the whole people OF the INT
S'T' S,,,es. was doctrine that the gentleman
:" p.orsvlyania would CONTEND tor? and whe-
TO ',ss Gentleman approved the doctrine that the
%' .,,,,,ou was furmed by the Peosle. not IN
Its communities, but as all aggregate! IL
p..,,,smsn from Pennsylvania agreed to such
." .,'.s,t.. then Mr.. ID. disagreed with him IN
~ n, regretted that any member OF the
~ ". sbuuld saree to -uch notions-tO him they
...,,sd 10 be the very essence ut consolidation
W. h,d been so considered and SO represented
n tho R,pubIicans who figured on the thea
:, Tho time the Constitution was adopted
a.. n aid he was in favor OF a resolution that
'',5 brina these questions up; that il these
,,,e doubtful powers they might De stated; esPe'
'i,I, If the Chair peasedl on the subject of In
,rsal Improvement
ys said ne had been arguing m favor OF the
iy.nrp he had moved. The message laid
! AN me General position that no power should Oe
..,-,,.a3 nv Congress whenever oDe-tourth OF the
n.,,s Of the Union were opposed to it. He
,,,Js,,you, Of haying a report on this doctrine,
n uder Ia prevent civil @ar and disunion. lie
snoed Congress woald take up the subject aud
ellie it. lie had seen paper purporting to be
Proclamation, which the gentleman from Penn-
,,yania said he approved. He supposed the
gentleman approved, too, that single indiv'du-
Al should be singled out for martyrdom: and that
An sodeayor should be made to excite one part
bIyh tine indeed that Congress should act.
$, far as the President recommended peace
and harmony, Mr.. ID went with him. But il
,ny one OF the States choose to 60 oft from the
,cnfedrra, y, in Gods name let il go IN peace -
Ne would not be for whipping it in Let them
part in harmony and with good feeling. These
we're bis opinions.
The Chair said he could not permit such dis
cvssiou TO proceed-it was entirely out OF order,
NJ, Daniel said he was discussing the subject
Of internal improvements, and discussing il as
CALMLY as he could.
The Chair pronounced Mr.. ID. to be out of
order: he was discussing subjects not before the
House.
Mr. d. said he had no disposition to transcend
me limits Of Older and az he was cuntradcted
by the Chair, he supposed he must submit. He
would, however, say, TO the honorable Speaker,
that he understood what was the question before
'he Huusc-he stood 10 need Of no information on
hat subject. He was IN favor Of the reference
Of this part Of the message TO Select Commit
re, because he thought It would bring up the
whole subject Of doubtful powers, generally
10 get at that subject he had acceded to the
Wo2osal Of the gentleman fran North Carolina
NJ. Speight to offer his resolution in the form
Of an amendment lie was now told he could
not 90 on to discuss the subject Of doubtful
Po"ers-thOugh the gentleman from Georgia
Mr. FOSTER had done the same, and was not
aa'Ied to order for it,
lt,eemed, hoaever, that he could not be per-
Mitted TO refer to the opinions of distinguished
individuals by way OF illustration Of his OPT.
Mons, The gentleman from Georgia had said
That discomfort aud disunion followed the exer-
e'e OF doubtful powers He had followed IN the
senterau's aake-and believed as that gentle
nan did. that the exercise OF these powers would
lead to bad consequences. La illustration OF this
sennment. he had referred To the Proclamation
nl the President. and had been ABOUT to discuss
That document with this view.
The Chair said it was not in order to do SO.
Me-. ID. then observed that, il he was declared
Oat Of order by the Chair, he would take his
nat And he sat down.
Mr. Stewart observed, he had not said that he
approved Of every thing that was contained IN
ne proclamation; he had only said that he APP
proved OF all the constitutional doctrines there
'et iOrth-he approved Of the doctrine Of the
exclamation as to the powers Of the Government.
The Chair said il was not in order now to dis
;ass that document
;, Mr. Stewart said he was only explaining to the
House aud to the nation what he had declared,
what he meant to declare, and what he was ready