Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1832-03-27
Twcnty-sccomd Congress.--sess. 4
IN SENATE.
inestiuu, March

tnbc.
reported from the committee al the other House, and
FOR the bencii, OF Bishop Faget alone, without the amend
ment which offered 10 The bill laid the table the
other day Tor the purpose OF reconsideration III the gem
tIeman from Virginia chose the other bill into
general appropriation for the benefit of churches similar
he had no objection.
Mr.. Tyler said the bill came from the other House he
should decline pressing the amendment proposed.
Mr. Pondexter opposed the bin being unconstiuon
al, and having tendency TO establish precedent that
might lead 10 numerous applications for similar objects.
He cited the OF the bill granting land for the benefit
OF the church at kchmond which was not approved by
President Madison because il contrary 10 the Con-
s'ituon TO grant exclusive privileges any religious sect
or denomination The churches hl had imported gans
might require the privilege il this granted If
they were imported Tor individual the duty might be
RENTED.
Mr.. Kane said there was striking difference between
this bill aud the with the amendment This bill was
for the benefit of an individual the other for particular
church, 1t was customary grant privileges of this kind
TO individuals not at the head OF religious body and he
could see reason why the fact of his being Bishop
should exclude him from the common privileges of other
citizens. Books, paintings sc. for the benefit ol learning
and the fine arts were admitted free i'll many for the
encouragement of literature and the fine arts. These
paintings were not objects OF worship but of
and The remission OF the duty on them could not be
sidered as avorng any religious denomination in their
worship because they hung upon the walls of the Ca
thedra than ifhey placed in the Academy of
fine arts in PhiIadeph the latter which this benei,
had been extended. The object was simply to declare
thatif foreigner chose to make donation of paintings
TO person in this country TO be hung up church or
elsewhere Congress would not discourage it by imposing
aheavy duty upon the gift This for the benefit Of
all persons VINO chose 10 resort there examine them and
had nothing to dewitt religious privileges whatever.
Mr. Tyler said that he was in hopes that he should
have been permitted to remain silent after having with
drawn his proposed amendment and that for single
day the subject OF the tariff would have been allowed TO
rest unnoested But the gentleman had thought proper
TO found his argument this very subject and this in
ference TO organ imported when the tariff of 1916 was
In force, and OF course had nothing do with the present
duties The gentleman had alluded to the bill for the be-
neht OF the church Richmond. He had brought for
ward that measure which based on the humane and
sympathetic feelings which from the destruction of
the Richmond Theatre and the loss of hundred of the
most respectable citizens of Virginia in that conagation.
Ii the gentleman had presented sailar measure he
would certainly support 1t on the grounds There
was difference between the purchase OF articles and
free-wlil Offering, and the question was which should
be entitled TO the privilege of coming free duty he
would say the purchase which already burthcned
with heavy price.
M Clay sad that the taken by the gentle
man from Virginia was quite liberal, and he hoped the
gentleman from Mississippi would not again urge the OBJ
lection that organs might be required come duty free
il this was passed. When this subject came up, there
was no doubt that the gentleman would play the tune to
H. WIN respect to the paintings, they would
have been brought 10 the United States but for the
oenevoence OF foreigners as Bishop FlaGet unable
10 purchase them himself. The gentleman objects to
the bill because President Madison decided that it was
not constitutional TO pass laws in favor of religious
nominations But in that the object was 10 obtain
the rights of exemption for the benefit of the church
The very term prescription implies privilege. But this
Is the of an individuals and the gentleman admits
that II he was not Bishop he would be entitled this
zen Can be doubted that President Wadinn
have sanctioned this bill if was offered 10 him yhan
PRESIDENT What sir, 10 refuse that iustico IN =
man because he is OF religious denominations which he
would be entitled TOT he of no religion? This seems
obe apecuar iavoe principle with some foreign
mentS, but not OF our Already has CcnresS
ps remtng inc duties on veSments and other furniture
Tor churches This looks like voring religion than
10 remit the duty on paintings which more for the en-
enlargement oil the fine arts than religious worship BIZ
Dies nave been admitted free of duty for the
inent oil the Baltimore Bible Society and there are ei@ht
rten cases on record of precisely the same principle
where Congress has RENTED the dutv on n,pnr,S ~;
lr. ulel wifi The a.,
the gentleman would agree to the measure and fnot he
should cheerluy acqucsce in the decision of the Senate
Aiter some iurher remarks from Messrs Benton and
rs, noes not counted. 80
THE TARIFF.
Mr. wilkins rose 10 inquire whether the omcnln,cnt
which he had before given notice that he sbonId ogn ~,
the resolution OF Mr. Clay the subject of the Tarif
would DC precuded il offered at this time He isb
10 ascertain whether the decision OF the Senate
with the parliamentary custom of precuding 'G,r,hrr
amendments, after motion to strike ont The Who'll Ia
,"ed, was considered valid, or whether he should
have to move reconsideration in order TO attain his oh
jec. ~ ms '"
ne Char sald that the proposition to strike ont the
whole clause after the Introductory words bavin c;lc
IL was contradictory to all pliamentar practice and
against e rules OF the Senate and therefore it was not
considered by the Chair to be in TO move 10 amend
aresouton alter the motion strike out had bee decided
IN inc negative and that the motion to re consider was the
only way III which the object of the gentleman could he
attained But the Senate have decided that tbe r,Io
soIiu DC dispensed with, and the practice had grown UP
oil allowing such amendments to be offered -
Mr. Hayne agreed that the Chair was correct IN III.
statement OF the former practice of the Senat. and %
parliamentary usage, hut it had been found
ana productive OF injurious consequences and terecoro
ue senate haI decided that the custom should mo, Lo
anherch TO- ms decision had also been made in tI,o
popular branch OF the State Legislature over which b
mad Formerly had the honour presidc and This ecisi
od DC wand until the Senate thought proper to reverse
IT. ~
Mr. wilkins said that hi, only Object was TO o,certan
inc sense o me senate on The subject 1t was immoeri
~ 10 "!n when way IT vas decided He should moi pres
enc u!eGt Iur,her Than to prevent his being prccuded
from Offering his amendment i'm any shane o
AIter some further remarks from the Chair
Mr Clay sdid that he did not rise TO discuss tbe oros
uon, but merely TO state his opinion of the prop,iv If H.
course TO be pursued He of the opinion tbatbe mo-
uoh 10 sFlSe out offered by the gentleman from, Soutl,
Carolina and decided in the negative did moi nrccIo @
other amendment which might be offered He Id noS,
CONSIDER that inns decision reflect adopted the resouton
anu IL e amendment TO be proposed was different in its
nature from me one negaiycd, it was unduestionabIv
proper TO admit IT. lie spoke with great Difference IN tc
opinions oil other gentlemen, having more experience l.;
Tue practice OF the Senate but according to all tho nr
ceedinds of legislative bodies with which he was oco,
ed' nc considered that the resolution was still osen 10
amendment " 'P'' W
Aiier some further remarks by Nessrs wilkins and
"hheT' "e SUBJECT was laid on the table.
Mr. Pointexer offered resolution of enorirv re,Gyo
grant OF 5OOOOO of land TO tbe State Of Mss
hPPi' Tor purposes OF internal Improvement
On motion Of Mr.. Marcy the unfinished b,s;,oo, -,
Yesterday was laid on the table, aud the Senate won,
therein "s sumo "he
The Senate adjourned.
=, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
Mr.. Adams, from he