Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1832-01-10

10 be subject of the State of Massachusetts Soyc
reign and subject were co-relave Wherever there
was sovereign there also a subject. lie had be-
he that because this report made by committee OF
which the Chairman was subject OF the State of South
Carolina that this report not intended be
ct as II was not made from the Committee usually charg
ed with such claims, he hoped that il would be sent that
committeeespecaily the State Of Massachusetts have
deep interest in the principle He therefore wished the
principle TO be settled beyond all doubt or question:
der not only that the State Of South Carolina might have
Its Just due, but that others standing the ground
might receive equal Justice.
Mr. McDute of South Carolina said, il the honorable
member from Massachusetts, (r Adams) had enoye cd as
much experience in the proceedings othe House. he
had in OF the departments of the Executive govern
men ne certainly would not have submitted the remarks
which he had done. III all claims presented this House
had been sent invariably TO the Committee on Cans the
remarks OF the gentleman would have been correct But,
in point oil Fact every Standing Committee this House
i committee OF Claims in their peculiar province The
Committee of Ways and Means the appropriate com
mittee upon all claims from the Treasury Department..
The Committee of Public Lands is the appropriate
mittee Tor all claims relative 10 the Public Lands The
Committee OF Military Affairs is the proper committee for
all claims relative to military services. All claims not
coming within the particular range of the duties of any
other Standing Committee sent to the Committee on
Cams SIR he said is not the claim peculiarly within the
province OF the Military Committee? Was the principal
question TO be settled whether the u were bound TO de-
tend the State OF s. Carolina and refund ex-
penditures incurred iii defending HERSELF For his part
was entirely at loss in conccturng the object of the ho-
norabie member from Massachusetts, (Mr. Adams. y
lie could not understand how the State of Massachusetts
would be better off with report upon this claim from the
Committee OF Claims, than it is. Ifa report favor
hs claim all that is necessary promote the benefit
Massachusetts,, here we have it. Does the gentleman
suppose that the report of the Committee Claims
higher sanction TO any principle, than that of another
Committed What object the gentleman wished to pro-
mote by referring this bill report to another Commit
tee he could conceive unless he wished to place il
PACK TO the very end OF the docket and involve delay
amounting TO actual injustice. But this claim nc said was
not only upon the Justice but upon the honor of the
ne state oil South Carolina promptly stepped forward in
inc ue OF danger and at the request OF the General Co.
eminent performed those services for the nation, which
the Government that time unable perform 1.-THE
state oil Mass can bring forward any claim of similar
character, he had doubt but il would be fully allowed
by The House The gentleman from Massachusetts, (Mr
Adams had lanculy associated this claim with that of
widow and orphan. What the State of South Carolina
mad to do with the claim of this widow aud orphan he
could not tell Had the claim ofhe widow and orphan
higher sanction and did it commend selfmoe strongly to
the justice OF the House! The circumstance stated by
the gentleman elfexpains in great the
ner in which that bill in favor of the widow and orphan
came before the House That claim, he understood
inc iacs ought never TO pass. Gen. Hull received his
pay as General Officer in the service of the United
States. He was also Governor of Michigan Territory
which he ANONYMOUSLY surrendered to the enemy Al
is made for his salary Governor of the Tertiary
alter he had surrendered it to the enemy under crcum
stances too well known TO history Such man should not
have the support of his vote.
Mr. Spcght rose, and commenced by observing. that
but Tor the peculiar situation in which he Stood he should
not have troubled the House with any remarks ON the
question before them. Having the honor to belong
to the Military Committee, who had been charged with
inc eXalnnauon oil this subject he felt il his duty reply
10 some oil the remarks which had fallen from the gentle
man from Massachusetts, (NIr. Adams) Mr. S. said he
knew it not in order charge the gentleman with in
tending toimpugn the motives OF the Military Committees
but he appealed TO the House, and every gentleman con-
versant with the meaning of words and phrases if such
nordt obiiSdtton, lie sse:. .e gentleman was it. that
bound the Committee of Claims that did not with coua
iorce apply TO the Committee Military Affairs it is
rue that two oil the members OF the latter committee arc
from the State of South Carolina; but he assured the
gentleman, that nothing like sinister motives had go
verned single member of the committee in reporting
voraby to the claim For one he would say that he had
calmly and dispassionately examined the principles on
which the claim based, and God was his udec he
believed II 10 be as just claim ever preferred be-
fore this House. This claim was once before the Com
mittee Claims they had in very elaborate manner
submitted their views the House that report was now
in the possession of the House, where the gentleman
from Massachusetts,, can, at his leisure, it
For ms own part he did not profess than an ordna
share OF undertaking in relation the duties of commit
tees but so far as he had been able comprehend them
the duty oil committee, he thought, 10 enquire into
the truth OF facts connected with any proposition before
the House, and 10 submit the i'm detail This he
repeated had been done by the first Committee Claims
ana second by the Military Committee; if the honora
bic gentleman could point any new fact the ecida
ton OF which would throw any light OH the subject
then he might with proprcty urge the necessity of send
ing this claim back TO his favoritc ordeal which
matters and things under the force of s..,i @ =,
I' '"' oi'i'" W. aen purely and imparaly examined:
,ne report OF the Military Committee is the result of an
honest conviction of its justice equity and he repudat
ed any idea or remark which goes to imputc different
course How was it, two years ago, when the Massachu-
ses CLAIM Dased on similar principles tbs was pre-
sened to this House. Did that go to the gentleman's
committee which by force of ,norI 0bIiont;ou3,,
NO. Sir 1t was referred to the committee which has
been last charged with the South Carolina claim who M
ter patent investigation, reported bill favorable TO il
one he had never doubted the Justice of large part
OF the ciam but the circumstances under which il was
passed, was such TO compel him TO vote against H. n
was called up at the very heel of the session. when we
were clothed in midnight darkness las the Journals womb
show and passed. He for one voted against il becouse
lme was not gwen TO examine its details Sir the qen
enan has thought proper TO place this claim on footing
with one rejected the other day. in relation to the uof0r
ous Gen. VIM Hull, name which is held i'm lust abbor-
renee and contempt by every republican and friend of his
country What, Sir are we to be gravely told that
reign State who calamity stepped forward to defend the
rights and liberties oil the country in of great peril
IS now to be placed footing with traitor What Sir
did the State oiSouh Carolina do? After YOU had plunged
The country into without the TO prosecute
an ncendary enemy lowering your coast and in sight
OF and with every probability of burning one of the most
popuous towns OF the State South Carolina gaanv stem
ped forward in defence of her invaded rights and called
her militia into the field. And now Sir we are here at
tempting to adjust her claim with all the rigid scrtnv an
plicabc 10 penal statute. That State Sir which With
out requiring call from the General Government to de-
end the country, is nowdo be cavilled and bbled with
purchase OF blankets for the soders This is the PRINCIPAL
cause OF opposition to the BILL though was not as i'm
porant TO the soldier 10 have blanket as coat Sir re
peat again. that undue influence has had any WEIGHT
WIN the Military Committee in their decision ON tbis
claim We acted in relation to il believed the me
rts OF the case required. We believed il based an tho
principles OF equity and usce and we are rndcr No
force OF moral obHgdtiOn, are of patriotism and
such claims, when presented TO this House should oyavs
have his support, let them from what quarter thew
may. my