Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1832-06-19
The petition having been read by the Clerk a,

the table.
His lordship proceeded 10 say that the pet-
non u'u Sfe"' cre"'t To The people of Birmng
ham. Ii was temperate as well us firm lie
did not know that he should MOI add ,oncili,tu-
ry. Perhaps he on. 10 congratulate ;he couu-
try on the change which their lm,,.hip had
just been called 1" witness. As AN Opposiion
they had hcen instrumental in giving htcr,y t.,
tho Catholics of ireland--( Loud cheer and Ms
an Opposition, they had conferred freedom of
conscience on tho di-seUters of England 4
bove all he congratulate the people of this cuuu-
try on tic patient, continued, temperate and
| constitutional - he ~hoAld say. roncilin,urv
course. they had ad"ptei.-( Hear, hear) They
had orc rciurin from their hcud-. Let them
proceed la the same way, add they will soon en-
tort il from their cnemes.--( Loud cheerS.)
Lord Plymoutii had made extensive INQUIRIES
Tor the purpose of asccrtaiuitg the real state OF
| the number. and character of those said To have
been present at The Birmingham meeting, and
could not by any means accche 10 tho cncula.
ton of the Noble anI Learned Lord who pre-
scented the pcl,tiun. Many had gone from ruriu-
sity. and booths had been erected Tor tho pur-
pose of games.
The Lord Chancellor deprecated the discus
sion which had thus inadvertently arisen. Some
might have AT ended tie meeting through curio-
sity, but their Lordship- would uch mistake if
they thought the body aud bulk of the people
h"d at,en ed fion curiosity To partake of acct
dental sports. They had attended from the
great anxiety they fell sihcer.Iy, with view to
promote the grand object of the meeting. lie
would take this opportunity Of stating also.
mat indeed he had been requested To state that
the pcacrablo ,icinrauor and lo,aI conduct oT
those that attended The meeting, had not baeu
disturbed or broNen in upon during the course of
me proceedings, by even one single appearance
OF tummlt
Lnfd ffenh"rough suggcs' ed To the Noble
Earl OPPOSITE, that he shuuld move the tIischar
gIng OF the order for the Committee on the Re-
form Dill To morrow. and To nominate some 9TH
er day, when IT might be convenient 10 proceed
in il.
Earl G'ey said iu,eude,l to move Tia, the
order be discharged, but think, my Lords there
is no necessity that any other order of the day
should n"w be Appointed.
Lord Durham presented two petitions, one
from the 4"ovil Political Union, tho other from
the Corp ration o! the city of PERTH in favour
OF the Reform Bill. Also n petition from ii @ ci-
~ Of Durham for The abolition of nero slav r.
Earl Carnarvon did think that he should
Ihe'doing his duty to that House, To the p,opIe
| and To the Sovereign, who was now left in an
| extraordinary difficulty, he might say periIous
slate,ot seeing the most contemptuois disc harrp
Ut the order of the day for considering in com
'nitco the Reform bill if he did not make a mo
ton on the subject. After the Lords had init
'natedt'eir wish To proceed in the consi,era ton
"i the bill, in the most liberal and concil,a,nry
manner, merely because the House Youd no,
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extraordinary event had been ouse uuent upon
| IL The N hle Earl oIpu ile might act as lie
| leased, hut 'e never told the House the aterna-
I'VE ne did To his Sovereign. Their I.ordships
N"ew what was The r1und, the slight ground of
'ilt'r defeat on the preceding evening" of ono If
the most foul, most n;rocious acts. which sinh
ljectS perhaps ever dared To insult by il the ears
OF their Sovereign. Their LOrdships had heard
| us was natural tn expect, Tint the Sovereign of
| ms country, who was the first 10 recommend
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,.'d acted ns every Sovereign OF The House OF
Brunswick would act aud has thus gained if
poss,nie' an additional claim To the grntiudc
of his subjects But il should not he thrown
out 10 the public that the determination of the
Government, whatever their motive was had
originated III tie vital rejection OF the bill. For
ms hi!l IN that House must I've discussed though
me MAJORITY OF their Lord,hips, winch ho did
moi btheVe, we're against it. He should therefore
move tRStdhfer that the order of the bay be dis
charged and shou ii stand for Committee on Mon
day next. Whether or not the House would be
IN state to proceed on so early day to the con-
sheraton OF 1t be did 10, know buI h. knew that
IL would be then easy 10 move FIR a further adj
journment of it.
Lord Gray said my Lords have been too
huch accustomed 10 the in emperate, the VIC.
lent, the personal-( Hear, hear = the nnpnrlia-
fnehtary- CLEAR, hearl-Ihe almost di>ordeIIy
attacks Cloud Cheers)-of the Noble Lord, to
be much affected by them on this occasion.
| ''oi 10 u ioI the purpose oil defending myself
gainst lmputatiou such as the Noble Earl has
thouSht proper TO cast me that | now rise.
| 4 trust mat IN the estimation Of your LurIship,
aud OF the public my character does stand
nope may say 1t without presumption, sulli.
cIcntiy nigh TO guard me from fear of suffering
from sGch ImPniations, (Cheers) from such a
quarter: The Noble Lord is pleased to qualify
'he ADVICE that have felt it my duty 10 give to
'nat Sovereign, as atrocous, as insulting, Ms
such as no SUBJECT should give, (hear, hear, from
me oPpositIoi,) and there are persons on the o.
ther side of The House who see agree in ,hal
sentiment All can say the SUBJECT is, that
deferred that advice till the last moment, wien
me necessity OF the circumstances Of tic time
and my sense of public duty irnpo ed i, upon
'"r' as an obligation from which / thought
could not escape humbly to tender that advice
to his M"Jcsty, (Cheers.)
whether, my Lords, tAat advice was right or
wrong, when Noble Lords choose To briug INC
under discussion, shall he prepared to argue
he question, and defend myself in the best way
can, (Cheers) and appeal win confidence To-
'nc rouse and TO the publIc. whatever motive
.he pohIe Ear may please to IN, 'utc me, for
oeheVo tue Noble Earl nttnccs some particular
'noIVe 10 my condnct.-( Cries of " No. no.
II the Noble Lord means To- discain il.
WIN not aIlude to motives which he has no,
imputed. But say, my Lords, That advice
siIdil he prepared TO defend whenever AN opuor-
tnniiy offcrs-Ulear) | throw myself UPON
the character OF this house, aud the public 10
consider whether il was possible | could have
lad any other motives tban those which arose !
from a strict sense Of what lc.l my pub &c du-
w. Having given that advice upon an import. |