Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1832-10-11
THos. w. GILMER, Esq.
From The u States telegram.


the writer Of this Duff Green) was standing ir
conversation with MIR. Van Buren,, when Judge
Rowan, then Senator, came up. and addressing
ed at the State Department and regretted tina
Mr.. Van Buren, was too much engaged to see
him. MIR. Van Bnren expressed his regret tina
he did not know of his call. and assured him that
he would be glad tn see him at any time. Judge
Rowan then said, that his object was to suggest
the propriety OF hulding cabinet councils; thai
the friends Of the administration in both Houses
were of,en at loss to know its measures, and the
grounds upon which such as were known ought tc
De urged, which information could only be made
known through the medium proposed.
Mr.. Van Buren, became instantly and deeply
excited. and said, I" Let Congress adjourn ana
60 nome, and the people ,oiH teach them their du'
4, 10 the Executive.
A few DAYS after this. the President address.
ed note to the Editor Of the Telegraph, reques-
ting him to call on him Immediately. Upon
reaching the Presidents Office, the following con.
versation took place:
Pres,dent.-" have sent for you that we may
converse on the subject Of my nominations be.
fore the Senate. 1t is time that you should let
the people know that, instead Of supporting me
dent making"
Editor" trust that you know that would
not hesitate to say SO if believed the public in
terest required 1t; but excuse me for saying that
before can censure Congress for not supporting
your measures, should be possessed Of the views
Of the administration, that may be enabled to
reply to those who ask to be informed what those
measures are"
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message. Sir, you will find them therein the
message, Sir"
Editor" Some of your best friends com
plain that your message is so general in its terms.
that no special measure is recommended; and
believe that the want Of concert among your
friends is attributed to the fact, that there is nc
concert in your Cabinet. There being no cabi
net councils. there is no onewho feels authorized to
recommend any measure upon the authority oil
the administration, because il is understood that
no measures are considered and adopted as such.
Your friends in Congress complain that you dc
not hold cabinet councils"
The President, I'm IRE ercifed. )-"Let Con.
gress go home, and the people will tesct them
the consequence Of neglecting my measures and
opposing my nominations. How did you obtain
your popularity, sir. as an editor: Was it not
by opposing Congress? Speak out to the people.
Sir, and tell them that Congress are engaged in
intrigues for the Presidency, instead Of support.
ing my measures, and the people will support you
as they have DONE"
Editor You complain that the Senate have
not approved of your nominations Will it not
be unwise 10 anticipate the objections Of that DO.
dyi Your nominations may vet be approved;
and if any should be rejected, there may be rea-
sons which would justify the Senate. II were
to assail the Senate, it would be attributed to
your influence, and thus array against you the
the body itself. and those who deem it essential
to preserve its independence. cannot know
what impediments lie in the way Of your nomi.
nations, and cannot condemn until my judgment
Pres,dent. =" The people, Sir, the people will
put these things TO rights, and teach them what
It is to oppose my nominations! 20
The identity of the policy and Of the very re-
mark, enables US to connect Van Buren, with the
warfare then contemplated, and since SO vigor.
ously prosecuted against the Senate.
Up In the Globe Of Saturday, we find the
following personal attack upon Mr.. CONVERSIONS:
"We angry Lovers mean not half zee say."-
Mr.. Gouverneur says, "the Editor Of the rele-
makes a most unmerited and unwor.
Thy attack upon me, full of insinuations of the
most degrading character"
This impairment and contemptuous treatment