Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1832-06-11
MONDAY, JUNE II, 1889.
HIGHLY IMPORTANT!


which sailed from Liverpool on the 9th Of May,
adyices from London to the evening of May 9Th,
and Liverpool to the 9th, inclusive, have been
received
The most important intelligence brought by this
arrival is the defeat of the Ministers on the night
of the 7.h Although the defeat was on an amend
nsat proposed by the Ministers, it appears to
have been considered decisive OF the late OF the
Bill, unless resort should be had to creation OF
Peers. Accordingly, says the Sun, lit seem
ed to be the opinion of several Peers IN the House,
that an Extraordinary Gazette, containing list
of SIXTY NEW PEERS, would appear on
Wednesday" May 9th, the further discussion
of the Bill having been postponed till Thursday,
At the request of Ministers. We suhjon sketch
of the debate.
The House having resolved itself into Com
mittee on the Reform Bill,
Earl GREY, the Prime Minister, rose and said
NV Lords: congratulate yonr Lordships on
this question, this porant question, having now
arrived at that stage Of the business IN which the
House having sanctioned the principle Of the bill,
we are now to be occupied upon the details OF it.
Nv Lords, the first motion to be made IN the
Committee, is, that the title Of the bill be post
poned. The next motion to be made. will be,
that the preamble of the bill be postponed,-tO
both of which, as matters Of course, trust. there
will be no objection. iIiear) We shall come
90 the consideration Of the clauses; and perhaps
It may be necessary for me to state, in now NOV.
ing that the title be postponed, an alteration
which it is my Intention to propose IN the hrst
clause. The first clause, according to the natu-
raj course of the proceeding, which appears to me
70 be connected with the general principle OF the
measure, is that of DISTINGUISHING certain NUN.
Der OF boroughs. (Hear.) In that clause It is
stated that each Of the tiEty-six boroushs IN sche
due A. shall cease hereafter to send members to
parliament. This was introduced into the House
Of Commons, bill having before passed in that
House, in which, after examination, SO b0roughs
had been DISTINGUISHED, when new bill was Ia
troduced for the convenience OF the proceedings
which had already been sanctioned BY the House
OF Commons, aud received again the sanction OF
that House. | mean to propose that the intro.
ductiou Of this number be deferred till after the
other osauses CT the bill have been gone through
with. To his mode Of proceeding, perhaps, there
may be some objection IN this House; but un-
derstand there are persons here, who, admitting
the principle and necessity of disfranchisement,
feel that they would be embarrassed by being
exact number Of ifty-six boruughs should be
DISTINGUISHED In order to obviate that, it is
my intention, when We come to the first clause
Of the bill, to which trust we shall proceed
immediately, to propose that the words nifty
six should be left out and that the clause should
thus proceed TO state that each Of the boroushs
mentioned in schedule A. shall cease to send
members to parliament; that is to say, the bo-
roushs mentioned in it, nominating the different
borOushs to be DISTINGUISHED as we proceed
NV Lords, think this will be the more regular
aud convenient mode Of proceeding, and calculat-
Ell to obylate objections which seems to me 10 De
reasonably entertained to the construction OF the
clause as it at present stands. shall be pre-
pared to propose, as soon as we come to that
clause, the boroughs intended to be included in
schedule A. NY Lords, l have now to propose,
therefore, that the title of the bull be postponed
Earl SALISBURY having put the question, de.
clared that the Contents (Ayes) bad it.
Earl GREY next moved that the preamble OF
the bill be postponed.
On the Chairman putting the question,
Lord LYNHURsr pres ented himself on the
floor of the House, and sad,-My Lords. rise
foe the purpose Of proposing to your Lor'iships
that the m6t;pn recommended and suggested by
the noble carl at the head Of his Majesty's 60
vernment, should be conceded farther than he has
stated. My Lords. l rise fo. the purpose of pro-
posing that the consideration Of the question
should be altogether postponed: (Hear, hear
and beg leave to state TO your Lordships, that
if should succeed IN prevailing upon your Lord
ships to postpone the consideration OF this clause
my proposition is to be followed up with another,
which will be that the clause that Immediately
follows it should be postponed also. daughter
My Lords. my intention in doing this Is sim
ply for the purpose Of submitting to the House
the propriety of considering those clauses by
which certain places are to be allowed the privi-
lege of sending members to Parliament; that part
of the bill should he considered and determined
and resolved upon, before we proceed to consider
the clause of disfranchisement. Hear, hear,
Your Lordships have decided, and to that deci-
sion am bound to defer, that the bill should be
read second time, and that it should be refer
red to the consideration Of this committee. The
question is, what is the point that you have de-
cided by this decision? (Hear.) You have de-
clded upon the principle of the bill with refer
ence to an inquiry in the committee. My