Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1832-06-16

lLouu SheSiSj VI Me iN"oie Loru, TO be mu.l
affected by them on this occasion. Nor ivy. mI.'
the purpose of defending myself again,, na %'
tations such as the Noble Earl has ,b"npH.
proper to cast OH me, that now rise J ~!
that in the estimation Of your Lord,hins AZ, d's
the public, my character does stand. | hone J'
say it without presumption, sufficiently b;,S
guard me from fear OF suffering from such
tations-(C heers) -from such a Quarter up" 7
Noble Lord is pleased to qualify the advice L' 10;
have felt it my duty to give to that So,er.,a'"
as atrocious, as insulting, as such as no snb;,.,
should give-(hear, hear, from the Opposo1VN
and there are persons on the other side If :
House who see agree in that sentiment ,r;
can say on the subject is, that deferred tb,. -
vice till the last moment, when the necs.s;,, ...
the circumstances Of the time, and nv sem. y
public duty imposed it upon me, as an coIis,,0'
from which thought could not escape, Lamhr
to tender that advice to his Majesty. Chez
Whether, my Lords. that advice was rigL, y!
wrong, when Noble Lords choose 10 briee9 NJ.
under discussion, shall be prepared to s,," M.
the question. and defend myself 10 the best 1,v
| can-(Cheers)-and appeal with conddenr.
to the House and to the public, whatever mime
the Noble Earl may please to impute to me- f.,
l believe the Noble Earl attaches some par,;,r
lar motive to my conduct Cries Of No, M
| If the Noble Earl means to disclaim il, will M,
alIude to motives which he has disclaimed.
will not ailude 10 motives which he has not in.
puted. But say, my Lords. that advice ,hl
be prepared to defend whenever an opporuD;,r
offers. (lIear.) throw myself upon the chr.
acter Of this House and the public to cun.ide,
| ,kotl ,nSe,hia I
other motives than those which arose from stlit
sense of what feel my public duty HuM.
given that advice upon an important subject, d.
alternative was simple, it being rejected. Isup
pose that Minister of the Crown, when /,
stands in situation Of offering advice to his maje.
ty upon an important subject, and if that advice
which is then rendered, is not accepted-and / |
the subject is Of sufficient importance, as that /
brought before your Lordships, he has no alrs- /
native than in rendering, in all respect which
feel for his Majesty's unbounded goodness
me, the situation which held from my so,,r
rign. My Lords, that is the course in which
have proceeded; but it seems, according to The
Noble Lords opinion, atrocious and violent G
he says there was only a trilling difference Of
opinion. The question On which the Govern.
ment were outnumbered was a mere matter d |
form, and no deeper affected the essential primo.
Piles or success of the Bill. 1t was proposed
he said in most eonsiliatory spirit, and Was IL
point of fact, no more than question whethr
the discussion Of schedule and d should hh
precedence of A and B. Why, if it was sques
ton OF that light importance. think the cen.n
of the Noble Lord would be just; but | did Of
so consider 1t. (Hear, hear. And 10 the De
bate I stated to your Lordshlps the reasons ahl
il appeared to me to be question Of the unei
importance, materially affecting the success
the measure. Hear, hear, hear. stated ;
your Lordsbips that this seemed materially l0h'
feet the principle of the measure; for the FIntl
pIe We undoubtedly proceeded on was the RELIEF
| ing Of the Constitution from that evil which va
connected with nomination bOroughs.
The clause first applied to the correction
that bill was postponed. in order to give pFe1s
dcnce to another, and the measure OF which WI
made to depend on the amount OF that dI'II'n.
chIsement, which stated ought to be regulated
BY consider alton of the character Of those 10
rouphs-(Loud cheers)-nct capable Of retu'n'1i
Members to the House of Commons consistent!
with the spirit of the Constitution Loud cheer.
By whom was the proposition made! by aM
BILE and Learned Lord, who IN the courseO ui'
very speech in which he made the propoN',1
still considered the Bill as Inconsistent win Ne
safety of the Government and subversTe 81 t ~
Consultation. (Cheers.) What right hiI ~
expect from these persons that they would 'Tf
mort measure in which it would be possible %
me TO give consent but by whom was ltsapPT
edl BY the Noble Duke opposite VINO nn..
clared himself that the present state oI feP..''
tation is perfect-tHear hear)-not cap'Ue
amendment by human ingenuity and %lsdom''1
who even then declared that he Shout e'e''Hi
~ vote against the measure. BY whom else Sc
the proposition supported? BY another N" -.
Duke, who stated that he would Vo'easa' as. =
measure of nchisement whatever; wIOs
other Noble Baron stated that another b'I ~:
be passed without any dislranehseme"t wa va.
yee. Why. under these circumstances. !, ,.o
childish Loud cheers)-is 1t not ch''o',h ~, 4
that this was mere question Of 'or"'., ~" a.,
was mere question of ptecedence-tlal. ,"' r
ciples of the Bill, that the efficiency u ue ".
IRE. were not to be affected-( Continues sI " 4,
and that we had refused on TIL. SIDE " "a
House to accept of a proposition or's'nau'S
party spirit, and propounded 10 eG Ia.mI
dispositioni-(Hear. hear, and 'oua en.' I'M
Nv Lords, under these eircumstan..N n O.
that had but one course TO pursue, sI'nH
that the means CT insuring the success Of w." ..,
existed and would be used, and il not o. ,"s
ing ms situation; for, my Lords, It was ,"S rs
q ~oo.;,t what tnluh "