Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1832-01-17

debate, and said he was wiling to bear the con-
| sequences, both in and ont OF the House But
| he was talking TO both friends and enemies, rer-
haps he should say, political opponcnts-and i,
beloved him, therefore, to be discreet, to weigh
every word and sentence, before he gave them
utterance. But he had never had an idea tba,
! II was his duty, the duty of any member in
hat House, to conceal existing facts or to hest
tate in revealing the political attitude which any
individual or party had assumed. He had been
accused of fostering party spirit on this o. Gu
son. He would canddy avow he had done So;
and he was sorry the gentleman from Pennsyl-
vania had so far misunderstood him, as to sup
pose that such was not his intention. Ii was So
and he perfectly prepared 70 defend him
self He would not bring party spirit to the dis.
cussion of the merits of this question, but he
| would bring such q spirit to couUtcract the m.a
sures of those out of the House, who had en-
! deavo'ed by the introduction of the measure
at this time, to coerce their action upon it, to
serve their own party purposes. He knew
well there was no gentleman, not even the
gentleman from Mary land, would tell them, that
u circumst ance which had occurred within these
tive weeks, had not had an influence in bring
| ing this measure before them at the present
time. He knew the opposition TO be too can.
did to make such denial. He conceived he
had a right to allude 10 any paper coming from
Individuals differing from him in political senti
ments and he would call their attention to the
manifesto of the Baltimore convention. Was
| not the evident intention of its trainers TO
urge this measure forward on the government .
| aud OH the President; and were not the prr-
poses for which this was to be done, equally eyi
dent? Nor would he blame them for this-it was
an allowable practice Of party war, but was it not
equally allowable for him, boldly to disclose what
he could SD pllinly perceive? If it were per
! mlsslble IN their opponents to endeavor to seal
a march on them, should they be denied the
right to oppose that march? He did say, and
he spoke 1t confidently, that the bank had been
! urged to brlng forward this measure now, TO-
noront OF the public opinion on the subject
with view OF casting odum on those who
should oppose 1t. He conceived, however, that
he, himself, and those who thought with him
might vote for laying the present memorial on
he table, without pledging themselves as to
| their Interior action the question They
were not unprepared for the subject, and the
gentleman from North Carolina had misunder
stood him if he supposed he wished to avoid
the question now, out CT any fear of after con-
| sequences.
Mr.. Carson explained, what he had Inferred
was drawn not from The gentlemans preference
OF select committee, but from his wish that
it Should be laid on the table
| MIR. WAYNE resumed. He had hoped he had
sufficiently guarded against such inference by
J the Interior right he had reserved to himself
| lie had been told by the gent eman from Massa
ehuscts, that the affairs of the bank had not
| been mentioned at the Baltimore Convention.
Ia did not know if it had been a topic of toll,
there but he did know that it was chief sub.
! ject of reliance with those interested in the OBJ
J. cts OF That Convention. A gentleman from
! Pennsylvania, MIR Coulter,) with whom he had
generally acted, and whose advocacy on the
present occasion he was not surprised at had i'm
! Piled that he Mr.. WI was connected with the
| Baltimore Convention ard its secrets. II must
ask that gentleman If he bad meant this seriously
! or in humor?
| Mr. COULTER said, he had certainly not said
any thing 10 give personal offence. H. had
merely sad that he himself was not connectc cd
with that convention, and knew nothing of its
secrets.
Mr.. WAYNE resumed. 1t had beer a matter
OF humor, as such the gentlemen was welcome
TO all the merrment it II ight have occasonel
! n those around him. After some further re-
marks, Mr.. w. concluded by denying that a
select committee must of course and by parlia
tnentary usage. be appointed of members favor
able to measure. They could not tell what
manner the committee might be appointed. 1t
might be by ballot but however appointed, it
should De a committee of inquiry, bic TO nves-
! tga;c and discuss the merits of the SUBJECT
MIR. SUTHERLAND SAID, it would be expect ed
OF INN, coming from the State of Pennsylvania,
that he should make one or two remarks on this
sutJect lie was sure his constituents would
ma fault with him if he should be altogether
silent upon It; aud the gentleman from Georgia
| thir Wayne.l might very well suppose he had
overlooked some OF the observations which had
! fallen from him. He was himself no Great
| friend or advocate Of the institutions and he was
not present as It's member. He had, however
no bias or prejudice the ether way; but was
prepared TO 30 for the measure in that shape
winch would best comport with aud promote
the interests OF the country. He THOUGHT the
memorial before them should be referred to the
| Committee of Ways and Means Why potP
I Gentlemen had SAID they ought to hear a
| report on both sides, and therefore wished
1t to go to a Select COMMITTEES He did
not, he wanted no Individual councils. He
wanted it to be sent to them who had before
investigated and discussed This subject, and DIV.
en- their opinion to the House upon it; that thew
might again BRING it in proper shape before us
! for consideration. The gentleman from New
! YCrk might then offer his amendment: and the
other gen leman from Maryland submit his plan;
! but let them not propose what would be hin
ORANGE TO the progress OF the measure aItope Their
Let there be bill and report on the SUBJECT.
/ Ihey might then have sufficient opportunity TO
tTIm aud lop as they pleased. Some who are
opposed TO he Measure would have il slpep
awhile; yes, they would have it sleep the slacp
OF deatbj others wished to have select
committee that they might report against
: ~ But IT they did SO, would it not be an
Insult to the Chair to appoint such a
commlttee' Parliamentary usage required the ap-
pointnent of persons favorable to a neasure.-
Why then, should honorable gentlemen wish for
select commltteeI The gentleman from Virginia
seems to think the President has acted wrongly
IN giving his opinion this subject to that House
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