Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1831-06-09

HOUSE or CO2lMONS-TrEsoAr, Apyil 10,
liionrMcd DeLate eon:lndeI.


Nr. c. w. W'yNN congratulated the House ,lpo, the
splendid display OF cloqucrcc and ability which il had
Witnessed, and, which he trusted would for many years
continue 30 assist and Tighten their deliberations. That
Of the consequences otthc present sysen Hc
regretted the present bil but hc hoped is discussion
would do good. Tic surprised that the of
1921 should 10 fixed when few wecSS would have
given us return up 70 the present moment. The poor
would he the sufferer. We're the lower classes only
corrupt? If he looked TO Crokad, Alcsbury, and Ret
ford, nc found il otherwise. Those who resided i'll
houses of l0l. value and upwards, had shcwn them
solves among the most corrupt And why should they
believe that in constituency Of 400 possessing houses
Of iAl year, it would be found more difficult per-
sI0dc 300 of the number receive pol each than before
}his introduced There guard
ans corruption 1t had been said the tirones would
2' expelled. The busiest members say for boroughs
that talent could not be cXcudcd.W ould the talent
Of Mr. Euskissou have secured him seat from lOl.
electors lie objected TO the precedent which the pre-
proposition would establish for perpetual change.
Population being taken the basis, they would have
now applications when census should have been
taken On what principle il that they could, III
lS3l, make these chungcs, and in 1892 refuse to enter
the considerations of applications for similar chan
g>s when obviously, il Parliament had directed the
to he taken in Januay, instead of May June,
they should have proceeded upon the of 1881.
lie had heard for altering the humber Of
members He should oppose the
SirJ. MNcoIW said that many distinguished men had
spent the greater part their lives in the ds,an! posses
sons of Eugpud where they had acquired great knew
ledge ana experience but how he would ask such
men 20 find their way into that House, How were
generals and merchants find their into it, if
boroughs abolished? The persons whom lie
udvcred, had hereditary claims upon counties, nor
were they descended from ono line Of ancestors For
his part, he must that in the whole OF
his liic he had his feelings so much hurt
finding that lie considered 20 be sitting there
piece of corruption. IChecrs, and laughterl
Sir r. WILSON said that from the first moment that
his noble friend Lord John Esscl had brought for
ward this measure, he >r H. Wilson, felt ins"perabo
objections TO the proposition to reduce the number of
i.nglish representatives.. cloud nlurmurs, and cries
'0h, OH" from tie ministerial benches )IIonorahle
goutlcnou miTh cheer, bus his decided opinion vyas
that however i.,coryc:licnt lie existing number might
he, still tev not great the growing bu-
siass OF Tie empire. Cheers from the opposition sde
n Il nom'1r from full constituency, interested in
Ill representation, he could net bat be startled at
proposition which amounted TO nothing short Of dim
mutton of English representation. loud and onr
urn rom Tie ministerial, and repeated cheers from
the opposition bcnch6sl Will, this impression upon
his mind, he had determined To rclnqush his seat il
the persisted in; yet subsequent corlsiI
Grafton he deferred from doing for one sole rca
shllilnoy, that having been sent to the House rs
rctorner he could not appear there as NJ, enemy f., re-
form. ["OI, oh, OIL But the very night when
the question brought forward he took the opportu
nifty of communicating 20 certain gentlenen connected
with his Macsty's government the strong objection he
entertained against the proposition TO which he had just
ayerted. He had also conferred with the honorable
Gentleman the other side, [Gen. Gascovnc,7 ana said
he would support his proposition with the understan-
ding that it not TO lie of hostile character.
Renewed murnurs and cries Of Oh OH He
tended that was necessary rive additional members
Glasgow and other large places, better to en-
large the House for the necessary odation than
cur:a the numhor of English representatives.. The
honorable and gallant member then referred to the
speeches OF Lord John Russell and Lord Althorpc, to
Show that IL the :st instance they did consdcr The
proposed reduction essential part OF the hi tho
TREY now maintained contrary opinion. Despite of
what they had before stated, his Naestys Ministers
declared that this vital principle of the bill
aud they looked upon the measure of the gallant gene
raj tiascoyncl nvidously brought forward with the
view odccatng reform He Sr r. WilHon1 was SUI
rrscd at this charge against the gallant officer nor vas
lc less surprised at the changes and fluctuations which
had taken place with regard to the submitted to
the house by his Maiestys ministers. Ho had boon
l.. ,lsf,.
every hour. lie would sacrifice al political
consistency, COR, od.D lie could con-
sistency IN ministers. II would seem as if his
right honorable friends had set their fortunes
upon die which ought never TO have been cast coon,
ajminglcd chocrs'] For his part l:a ealy looked at
Ire good OF his country, for which he mad shed his
blood and ,yus ready she'd it again if necessary. If
This to be his last ADDRESS to the House (aId lie
would bow 10 the decision ofhis constituencies he would
carry with kim the best ct all cous"atiOus the firm as
rillCc that lie had supported and maintained the char
atter Of honest (jontiHucd us,irnlurs from
the ministerial and loud cheers from the opposition,
bcrcles)
Mr. STANLEY aid, shat to honorable member appear
Cd be quite surprised at the change which had taken
place in the language of his MIAcstys minister's
Change, the tilno, which, however quickly it
might appear the eye Of enemy, would be impcr-
ccPtibIc to the eye OF friend. (CheorsD Ii the hon.
member saw; something asOtiisI aud ustouud him in
what he described a change Of language tic part
Of his Majesty's minister's would tiC House SEQ moth
ing--rould the country notning--would the hon.
scnt!cmaIl's constituents SOC nothngto astcnish and
gStound him i'll thC change OF language the part Of
that individual who cnphaticIly said that hc
;cormcr Continued chcCrS IL did, indeed; asnu-
sl him lYr Stanley TO gentleman who protested
himself rcformcr thus cnHiug forward in the OVER
m and ovc~-zcao,,s discharge of his duty to the
rausc of reform, dong his very utmost to dcicat the
measure. Tie hon gentcman's constituents would
have good right to Gel asonisllod when they found
that tLcir reforming representative ready TO rcln
qIis lis seat after Having made speech against Tie
present bill, and done all iii his power 10 stop it III It's
progress. Yes they must feel ordinary degree 0!
asonisTImeu unless the honorable gentleman had pre-
pared them for his detection by Of those oondoa-
tial communications Of which he spoke. (Chccra.}-
Re would ask the honorable gentleman If hc~yas not
ilIc dcbac last night, aud if be did hcar
!obc lord opposite, who made the most Of his little
say that ti5 Of the gallant general Gas
rr.rc} was brought forward with friendly motive,
-h &c those who did support might also sup
.7.t 'ro hiR lie would as. whether, after t,is rcsol-
'n bad appeared on the paper, 1T had NOT undergone
different notifications? Tlcrc Gen. Gascoyno avas
TODD TO intimate his asscnt Well then, tl,efact
limited, Now, would Tho gallant general 90 ono
.f.hcT, and say whether O:a object Of all thc.,,
ard DIodict lions not to defeat tie present
possible? C'No, mo-" from 'lc opposition bench.