Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1831-01-06

duties had alrC,dy bv act of Parliament been
given 10 the support of the colonial hierarchy ::
so that ministers had made his majesty very
liberal with wat did mol belong 10 him. tie
comp famed of the confusion ot the estimate,
arising from thu mixing up variety of eAprn-
ses that had no conneAion with the dignity or
comfort OF the ,rown. A number Of pen' ons
were paid out of the civil list, which ought not
/ To be granted without hrst receiving the sane
ton OF that honte.-A great many OF those pen-
sloners were Peers, aud peers Sous aud daush
ters aud other persons who had certain des-
/ eruption OF Connex,on with the House OF Com
mons. The people wanted cheaper eoVcrn-
n"nt, and 10 relieve themselves from such abu-
ses.
/ In the House Of Commons, on the 10th Of
November, Sir II. Parnell rose to move the
mendment OF which he had given noIIce on the
! former night. lie had paid every attenuon, to
| the statement OF the Right Hon. Gentleman; he
! had since held communication with several
members most competent 10 form nm opinion
on the subject; he had also read the papers
which we've delivered that morning, but still
he could not understand the proposition which
! the Hon. Gentleman bal to present To the
| House. II was true thai the Right Hon Gen
teman had talked a IA saving Of ESQ 900 Ia
the Clvrl List, as compared with the Ciyil Lis,
! of 1890; but he { SIR III. parnd) could not DIS
cover how the saving WIS effected Il Hear
| hear lie had also talked OF n total saving
| oi 4 100 900, but tue whole matter was render.
ed 50 obscure aud complicated, by departing
! from The old form aud Introducing new claus
IS, that II was almost impossible TO form an o.
! plnion on the subject. II would appear from
the RICH, Hon, GentIeman's own figures. rs
! contained IN the papers before the House, that
! theneal saving amounted to little more than
! E27, 900 lie could not help thinking there
was something Of management in this obscure
| ty, 10 give nm appearance of saving whe~ there
was actually none. The saving under the head
oil Pensions, for instance, required explanation.
| Ministers had as he conceived right TO take
credit for the falling in OF the allowance To the
DIXIE OF Clarence as that was paid ont Of the
! CONSOLIDATED Fund and mol out Of the tiViI
List II that was an error they were justified
| in surprising that other err rs had cfrpt IN, aud
therefore, they had slrong grounds lor insisting
on inquiry. There were other ttamsoI saving
besides the ES5 900, the real OF which they
! had strong reason TO suspect his was sutii-
cient ground TO warrant him IN moving tor a
Committee The Hon. Baron then referred
To the revenue of the Dnchy oil Lancaster,
which Mr. Burke had sta It'd 10 be, in money,
about f4,0OOa year, hut influence 100000,
| and said, that If they were sold, lhey would
produce sum which would most materially
! benefit the public incomr.-(tIear, hear. )-IIe
! proposition, that there vas no precedent IN *
| ,s,ence for the appointment Of a Committee, on
| the CONNIE ce .nent of new reign, for the pur-
| pose OF investigating the tiVh Lat but tha'
! was in his opinion, no reason whatever why
tlrry should follow the example of previous
! Parliamenls, and give AWAY thr money without
iovcsiiga' ion. Tue Hon. Gentleman then pro-
ceeded to remark upon the itfms moved iof
on a evious night, by the Chancellor Of the
| l. "A concluded Inv IN for the
appointment Of Select COMMITTEES to inquire
into the expense oil the Civil List
The Chancellar OF The Ekfheqner argued a
gainst the motion. a. was 10 ! hwed ny Nj. CHlcrat
Mr.. Banks, Mr.. Uerrles aud We're replied IL
by Lord Al,horp and Mr. Wynn.
| Strangers were then Ordered to Withdraw
aud the House divided. when there wer'--
For the ora iual mouoo 2JI
For Sir H. Parnelfs amendment 233
Majority against Ministers -
The announermee II oil TN mnjorty was hail
! ed with loud cheers; aud on the e-admssuu
! Of strangers 10 the gallery,
The annonn ement OF this result was hailed
| with loud cheers,
On our admiss:o ~ into the gallery, Gays the
! Morning Chronicle. we found
Mr. II obhousp On his legs. lie asked whe
Their the Ministers, after such division Intcn-
! HGu to FORM me Government any lpHB'' .
NJ answer be ing given Ia the question, the
! hon. gentleman utttr "A moments pause, went
on 10 say, that he should certainly bring tue
/ question to an issue Cries. Of move, move
/ Mr. BrOugham sad, thai his mono able iricud' )
question was nj an unnatural one, hut there
was at present more important question he
| fore The House. He hoped the Hon. Baronet
/ SIR II. Parnell would consider whether II
] would not be better 10 postpone the business
/ for a short period, aud name the Select Com
/ mlttee to-mprrOwt
A. TINS period there was great confusion in
the House, aud We could no ascertain whrt1-
er the honorable Baronet made any reply 10
tins suggestion. Ii ne DID, II must have been
+ Il tie eject of declining 10 adopt the hat OF
the HouoraLla Member int lorkshfei for
The Speaker proGee ded o read the names Of
the Hon. Members vino we've to compose the
Committee. As far as ~e could catch them, amid
. the confusion. they nefe-Sir H. fhfnel, the
! Chancellor OF lhe Exohrquer, SIR, Robert Peel,
Lord AlthOrp, Nj. Arbulhnot Mr., HeI rts,
MIR. Banks, SIR L. Kuatcnbull, Mr.. Ward. Mr..
Lntletou, ar. Hume. Mr. IA Drnmmnud, MI
Palmer, Mr.. Rec, Mr.. Wynn, Sir J. Newport,
i Mr. r. Lewis, Nh Mabefiy. Five 10 TORN a
quorum.
II is said the defeat wosId have been more
signal sill had al the members been ia. The
! Chronicle names tn others who would have
voted with Sir II. Parnel, had they been ia
the House. The defeat seems MT TO have
been anticipated by the Munster. The lasl
paper Asserts that They "eie evidently as lit.
tie prepared tor this result AS the Dnke Of Wei
inglon was for he Indis nation which the kIng 5
speech, aud his insoleni declaration against
Reform have excited throughout the coun-
toy
The result Of these proceedings, aud OF this
defeat, Tar as the Ministry we've concerned,
VAS communicated To both Houses of ParlIa-
,nent on tne day following, as the read'r has
SEEN near the commencement oil this article.
From the NJ Y. J0uruai Of Commerce, Dec. %.
ElGIII DAYS LATER FROM EUROPE.
HiuhLY ldPOhrANI.
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| arrived after our pap went to press 'hIs NOR
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