Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1831-04-12

Che Chair replied that Il could certainly bs asanet
10 that wsy)
Mr.. Giin,r then remarked tina, he would viii draw
hi, motion reeede, and vote Tor the conferences.
Mr.. Brodnsx asked, whether the gen,is Dan from
Phsyivana (Mr. Wicher) was sun oppos TO th1
conference. Me-. wilcher ne, lied. that he was-tha
he should &C, upon his opoions, although he e.
lieved that This House would agree to the confer
Mr.. Brodnax asked whether IL was come 10 hi,
That he Representatives oil he people oil Virgins
would give way 10 the ians OF the other branch Of
the I.egislaturs' which branch ouyht 10 ysidi Dit
not THIS House originate This system! And VIII ,he
Senate, instead OF anne nting bill, gave us an en-
ireiy new system, was II III, for u,, without, hearing
heir reasons, and going INFO conference TO he'
edct It oncea-He a.ked o. the member, what pew
hight had been she'd upon III r minds To change their
votes! Had they received any letters from tier con-
si'usn,s Disappearing OF our. III! No-;he change
was to be PRODUCES by the old manuvre Of attempting
to beat by asserting that we we're b-a,eI?of turning
the majority against ia, by persuadiag that tho a.
j"rity had turned against us?Mr. B. said that there
wss spirit ahoa that might prove fatal best in
situations, aud which ought TO be atrested-he meant
that dnttjudge can, which was so much raise on,
OF this House.
Mr.. Maxwell hoped, that the two dies may be
brought TO harmoniz, and TO suk. out come middle
PAIN Tor accommoda'icn-In THE concaioy spi'it he
wouiu agree 10 confere0ce-and surely there va
every reason TO meet in such spirit Tney wsre rep
resen'atives OF the same peope-and like aud wife
hey ougs, TO conciliae their differt no'go
home, Without asrceipg to any system, leaving the
whole commonwealth In confusion, and each 10 tell the
people they could net act, because The oher branch
wished TO dictate to thtm-snd that they could no
yield to such spirit in the other.
MIR Eppes declared that he would not agree to the
conference al tits tme-ior, il we meet in il with the
feelings expressed by The gentleman from Diowddie,
'nat the sp oil their orefthers forbid their receding
conferences would be a mockery. He con-
tended Thai gentlemen to 20 into conference
and challenged to reeollsct the opinions which ely
had aud the votes hey had given in proceed
stages Of tns husness-0f what would IL be to 20
into II! He would for Il az soon az he saw dis
position In this House to yield sonnet thing and 10 show
conci'a'ory spirit. He thought there ough, TO be
some time for cool elaboration. If conference were
now to be held, II re CURED no prophet 10 zee tina, Il
would end In both Houses adhering 10 their plans
and the Legislature would be able carry any
o,u' ana ,ney would ri'e will ont doing any thing
He thought In The first place the House should reced-
from their dis greement.
Mr.. Ghoson admitted that this House ought to hold
out The olive branch to The Sena,s aud contsnded that
,he proposition OF the gentleman from Henvico wa.
10 TACT holding out the olive branch. Why did MOI
the Senate hold il ouil But instead of their asking
conference, they insisted their mendments with.
out ever discussing the question for moment And
was II TO be expected of u.s. TIT we shall recede al
once from the grounds we have taken-af,er we hat
been engaged for weeks in dgesng the best Judiciary
system which we could devise; that should Weld al
once to the regulations of the Senate. He did no
deny that the Senate was coordinate branch of the
governments but he sut il TO the House 10 cay, whe
Their this Judiciary system, which was to affect IN,
counties oil the State, did not fall more properly with
in the cognZance OF the representatives. Of the coun
ties than ofhe Senate which represented the tisrict
of The State.
Mr. Morris supported the conference at some length
and he commented among other things on the idea tina
majority OF joint vote in favor of the Senate's bill
He asked whether the Legislature was TO form itsel
hto round house, and decide by concurrent vote O
both Houses! Was the Constitution TO be dead cite
when il was not year odt The Constitution re
quired majority Of this House TO originate BILL au
majority OF the other to pass it-and il come
this, that the Constitution TO be changed, and
bill was TO be passed by counting the noses of Dot
Houses?
After long debate between Messrs Morris, Witche
and Legh-MI. Gilmer again rose TO ask the Chair
whether was competent for the conference to propos
a system with 20 Judges?-The Chair replied undoubt
edly-bu it was fair to state that the Managers on tn
part of this House would be composed of members VIII
belonged TO the majority of the House.
MIR. Gilmer then replied that with this view of il
he should be opposed to the conference-a and that h
should therefore consider this as test 0uestioa-bein
determined, that il the conference be lost he wouI
move such an amendment to the bill would allow q
Judges
Mcssrs Brodnax and Cilmer both united in cal
for the ayes and noes-and the question being taken TO
conference, IT was CARRIED ~ ayes, 55 noes
AfES-Messrs: Banks (Speaker,) BiyIy, Wood o
Albemarle, Terrill, Kenney, M'Cue, Davis Of Beike
ley, Henshaw, Anderson aud Miller of Bote,ourt
Campbell OF Brooke, Ghoson, Shell, YaDe-y, Haly
burton, Watkins, Burfoot, Wilson. Brodnax, Wfigh,
James, Mar;halI, Mason Of F.. Ca'lIeman. Perrin
Williams OF H., Leigh, Atkinson, Lucas Gallaher
Summers. Hoos, Pollard OF X. W., Hays, Lawson
Mason Of L., Knox, Goods, Vaw,er, Cohoon Garian,
VI Az W. AauShhp, MuIudUsn, thompson, Upshur
Blackwell, Anderson OF NJ, Jacobs, Parriou Miller
p, Znn, Venabls, SHIELD. Rivts of p. G., TYLER
Moore. Mcdowell, Lewis. Williams OF s., Goodw yn
Hamilton, MoDcure, Crump, Newton, Crockett, MN
well. Macfarland and Rutherford.
NOES-Mes r.. Drummond, Giimer, Garland of A
NIayse, Campbell OF b., Lef wicb Christian Spurot
Rives OF c, Cay, Taylor, BIoadus. Gib.on J. nee
Chichester, Payne, Powell of F., Holland, Wood @
F., King, Hail, Green, Easley, Dunn, CaIskadoD
| Dyer, Semple, Posrd OF X & O., Leland, Ewing
Caldwell, Poindexter, Street,, Hudgins, Newmsn
Watts, Bingsly, Preston. Helms, O'Ferrall, Davis O
o, Hiner. Witcber, Swanson, Bax'er. Htr', McMa
hon, Alexander, Kilgore, Gdewood Eppes, Gillespie
Mccoy, and McCu,loch.
ORDER OF THE DAY.
The House proceeded to the Election Of The judge
of the Couri OF AppeaIs-Mr. Ghoson rose TO notni
nae Ffatcis L. Brooke rs PreSident-Mr. Davi,so,
nominated Henry ST. George Tucker OF Frederick
Mr.. Morris nominated Rooeu Stanard of Rchmonc
city.
Judge Brooke was support d by Mr.. mcfarland.
Judge Fucker was supported by Mess s. Mason o
Fred Williams OF Harrison, and w Hams OF Shenan
dosh.
Mr. Stanard was supported by Mr.. Leigh.
During the nominations, a message was receive,
the Resolution, requesting full and free conference
with amendment substituting 4" the Conference
Chamber for he House OF Delegates" as the plac,
of meeting.
The LIST ballot stood as follows:
Tucker, 10
Stanard, 32
Brooke. Is
Mr. Gholson reported from the Joint Committee thu
following result, the vote of the too Houses viz:
For Tucker, 90
Brooke, SO