Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1831-04-02

len 10 chance Ger their rensn.rstsn. Would The Hsus
indulge disposition 10 employ services when shey
edsd aud then lave the servants to get Their
pay how ,hey could! No. sir. said Mr. b tbs iabo.
wages shsli never sl.eP with me. Il u' here
man here who will voc to put these AGENTS OIL TO
another Congress. Mr. Rhind was our Consul to
Oessa he 10 known TO be poor, aud to possess no,h'r
bu, what the Cove ruinsu ut gives lin. no betevsd
himself to DO employed by eompeten, Power-ies u,
pay him for the services he pe'Iofmsd-o let u.s. at
tho same time, take care to say That the power wnch
employed him was no; .mpe'en'.
Mr. McDutiis said, that N, COMMITTEE OF wys
aud Means had no iatwn'ion Of being UNDERWOOD as
saying tina, these agents were not eniuea 70 eempeo
eaton Cor their service: the sonui,ec were unanimous
the contrary opinoobut they had failed IN accomplish
Tor tho i-c they had 10 view 10 recommending 'ha
his item be stricken out, which was TO avoid debate
They desired 70 psesen, the question in such way as
might coneaie all. lie agreed that the simple sttk
ing out OF this approp iion might, at brat view, APP
arl ks he expression OF an opinisn that inc iouvi
duals in question no, entitled TO compensation; out
.ucu was not hs opiuon. nor that Of the committee
They were, doubtless entitled 10 compensation, aud II
the Hous. cou,d provide fluid Gu, OF which they
nigh be paid he ,hould be glai. He had NO wish to
appear II oidpg vote en- the principle contained
10 the Sena,es amendment, but he did wish to avoid
discussion. His opinion was, and he presum q mere
were few but would agree with him, that the Ffesi.
dent did not possess power to appoint Ministers Pleni
poen larry during Of the Senate without Lomi-
ns ihsm the Ssuaie il, next succeeding session.
But, he compelled 10 vote, he should not hesi ATE
to say, that he was unwilling to give vote which
might be construed into censuc OF the President for
what hs had done. He sa, fed that the affair had
intent. The Senate had deemed II proper 10 vinti-
cate its own powers by inserting tho proviso. The
House had such set, aud NJ such obigaon. The
Senate had now dono what they desired. and what they
had pc t. right to do and he hoped hat further de-
bate would DO avoided.
Mr. ELworh observed. that the House was
brought back to the question which had ssen STA cd by
the gentleman from Rhode Island, (Mr Burges) Ger
lain public agen's had performed important rvices:-
they had he farest claim 10 DO iDdemni6ed-snd in
demuih ID at this ims-ani, un en the Horse intend
ed 10 compensate then In some other mode, they
ought strike out this appfopfia ion IL geEts-
did not like the prov'o let them strik, Il OUT
but the claim 10 compensation was certainly just AMI
fair, and he could never consent TO strike out Just
appropriation bscause Of the Provi'o that was attached
to III.
Mr.. Dray' on said, that he deprecated argument as
much a. any gentleman, and he should make none un
less he felt bound 10 duty to d, soae should not vote
for striking GU the elauss hs thought that the
appointment Of the commissioners was illegal or un.
constitu,isra But he thought IL was the exsrtiie Of
constitutional power, 20 far az any construction oil
the Constitution could derive force from precedent
This supported by numerous examples. He was
not for striking out the Provso He considered these
agents as entitled to salaries. There was fund out
of which they might be paid, and therefore there was
mol the sma lest objection TO the amendment.
Mr.. McDuffe, 10 reply 10 Mr.. Ellsworth, oSssfv-
depended the House pr6viing some other mode OF
compe nsaion, his diff Guilty might easily p. removed;
for the House should vote 10 strike out this
anne INT, the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Wayae)
would introduce another CLAUSE 10 The object
The question was then taken ON agreeing with the
Commit Of Ways aud Means in their proposed amend
men gong 10 strike out tho amendment OF the Senate,
and II was carried in tic fiji NATIVE.
Mr.. Storrs here rose aud addressed the House
His remafks will DO given 10 can obtain a
copy OF the rep'rt oil Them
Mr.. Carson rose In reply. IL always gave him plea
sure to ls'en to tho gentleman from New York, who
had just taken his scat. bseau'e OF tho ability which
he always msnife'td when addressing that House II
matter Of deep regret, that talsnts Of so high
ORDER should be enlisted on the wrong side. The pow
Of that gentleman were admitted by ALL 10 so much,
that he was admitted I, be capable making any cause
which he chose TO adopt, appear to be Tight by the
etton OF bis elevated abilities But tho present oc-
casiOn, Mr.. consransd TO confess, that he had
heard The S Msy York %st
to feel. Iodeed, il the New York elections had not
bssn he should certainly have concluded, that the
gentleman PuTPossd again 20 stand a; candidate Tor
lecIioneering speech. The honorable gentleman had
with telling the House, that he perfectly
in the dark that he could not at all understand the de-
bate but hat a development Id the House witness
ed and on what authority had II been made The
first thing the gentleman had discovered, was the
establishment OF a new mission, which was to cost
the country, God knows how much. Each Dew Min.
ist-r, it seemed, was TO be furnithed with new snuff
boxes aGd every subsequent Congress was to be bouod
to make new and further appropriations The Mnis-
tiers too, were 10 make Themselves ridiculous by app
pearing in inferior grade, and the geneman's mo.
lion would 20 10 render them still more iideulous.-
The President had submit ted the treaty to the Senate
and Mr.. C. had understood that the treaty had been
ratified with an amendment, which went 10 strike out
one offsn.ive article. He not that this
the case, but he had been informed. In the die
charge of his executive duty the President lad sub
mitted 10 the Senate tho propriety Of establishing q
diplomatic mission 10 the Ottoman Pore. The bill Al
fret provided for he outfit Of full Minister, but The
reduced the Minister TO Charge, and had thereby af
forded the gentleman opportunity oil holding to
the House very entertaining spectacle, where our
Minister appeared dancing attendance out of doors,
among servants and drogomen, but admitted 10
the brightness OF the Suan's sublime presence. The
gentlem appeared to have thought a good deal on
The subject aud he sorry he had obtained any
information as TO The political consequences arising
from this difference of grade 10 cur Minister
Probably another agent might be needed but that
was the busness OF the Senate, as they had the
cluive appointment Of new Ministers. Ths gentle
man from New York, IL he recoiscted right, had adj
yocated the Panama Mission. Did the gentleman al
that time a.k Tor tho instructions given TO our Minis
the Executive. The Hou,o was TO repo,e official
confidence in the Executive. II not its duty to
ask too macy questions All was to BIO submitted 10
the Executive. Why did not the House hear from
him the same language The gentleman had profess
cd gre at ianorance but whatever might be his dis
chalmers, the Houe all knew full WELL that the en-
Iemsn was acquainted with the manner in which
Tufki,h treaties were usually negotiated. He knew
perfectly well, that presents were always made by
every nation who w,hed to maintain dir lorHatie reIa-
tions ebtan msrcia advantages, or hold any in
toreourse with the Turkish Court. Tho commercial
benefits 10 be obtained by tho pre'snt srrsngemsnt