Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1831-05-24

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question the merits Of which were not involved in tho
success or merits Of the reform BILL Ii was true that
he and his colleagues did entertain cpinn that such
reduction would be advantage to tho public veal,
that fewer number would contribute t. the despatch
OF public business but chat opinion formed he repeat
e no essential element of their plan CT reform; and
therefore not to insist its enforcement could not in
harness be construed to compromise OF the princi
PIE ny which he pledged himself TO stand or fall (fear
ms opinion of the Inconvenience OF the present large
number of tho House of Commons menbers, was not
now of his He had often asserted it, more par
ucularly when the act of Legislative uncn with Ireland
was under the consideration of the ether House OF
Parliament On that occasion he moved, rs an amend
inent to the bill, that 100 members be taken OFT the
presentation of England, 70 make room for the 100
new members which Ireland TO send under its pro-
VISIONS and the feelings of the majority of the house
and the then Government, far from being hostile
to ms proposition the chief obstacle to the OF
winch arose from the principle of compensation 60
certain borough propretors in Ireland being recognized
by the Government. His opinion, then, as TO the adj
vantages of a reduction OF the number of the Com
mons, c repeated formed no essential part OF the
form bill, and was to be Judged of other grounds
Then to some alterations which it was proposed to
make Ill the details OF the BILL he wished it to be borne
In mind, that they far from being opposed to its
principle that they only went to carry it into effect,
and were only s,ch improvements correct in
formation suggested. Since the plan and objects OF
the bill had first been announced to Parliament, minis
tiers had obtained correct returns of the popull
ton of the boroughs and towns which would affect;
and the result would be a modification, i'll two three
instances of the schedule and b. but he had be-
fnro SAIL departure from the principle of the
sure. iIear) The noble marquis asked whether min
listers to propose that the number of the Com
mon: should be kept up to 65s, the present number;
and If So how they meant TO fill up the deficiency
which the DISTINGUISHING clauses would occasion. His
answer was, that minister's would not originate any
proposition to make good this deficiency. (Hear
Their individual opinions were, as he had stated, in
favor of reduction of the number; but if the House
of Commons should, contrary to this opinion agree
that the full complement of G5s members expo
dent, he and his colleagues did not feel that they
should therefore abandon the bill of which this reduc
ton was not an essential feature (Iour) If the de-
hclency should he thus filled up, he called upon
TO say how 1T might be done so with advantage to the
public All he would say was, that he would not con-
sent TO its being filled up from schedule a; that is
from the boroughs proposed to be DISTINGUISHED alto.
gcthcr (ttcar) Nor from schedule b, that is, from
those boroughs which the bill would deprive of the
power OF returning moro than member, but only
IN such way would conuce to the great object of
the Inenslre-thc giving the property and intelligence
OF the country its due shares of representations
QIear.) The noble carl repeated that he and his col
Leagues were determined to stand fall by the prnci-
PIE OF the bill, and that he should be prepared to
show that the intended alterations il, its details implied
no abandonment of that principle.
Ithe discussion terminated for the day without any
RESULT
In Great Rritln the Parliament had reasssmbled.
an the question of reform ag lin under incidental
discussion-thc Ministers had in some deree modified
the details, without altering the principle of this BILL
Mr.. Hunt astonshed all parties in the House BY dc4lar
ing that the bill not approved by the people-as
not going far enough in giving the right of suffrage
Ireland i'll Il most disturbed STANDARDIZATION and
murder had openly appeared
It is said, by the London Courier, that the e2oyaI
family of France will shortly leave Eagland in c6nse
OF certain disclosures of the plans of some of
their agents Spain mentioned to be their destination
Mr.. Jeffrey, the Lord Advocate having lost his scat
for the Scotch boronghs of Forar, Dundee, Sc took
his seat on the reasscmblng OF Parliament for Nation
Nation IS borough Of TIE Earl Fitziiiia,n for which
Sir Jumes Scarlet sat. The noble Earl family being
III favor of the Reform bill and Sir Jas Scarlet
it, he resigned his seat for Nation ard then made
ts0Y
Mr. Bennett was expected to ltroAace bill disfran
chising all the present electors of Liverpool, in conse
quence of the CORRUPTION at the last election The in
telligence of this project excited much feeling in Liver
peol, and two meetings had been held OF the Bribcd'
and 'the unbribed" 1t the latter, only about IFS at
tended
Mr.. O'Conne and Mr Hunt disarrecinp on the sinh.
Ject OF the Reform BILL have been abusing each other
roundly in the House of Commons. Mr.. OConnell
found fault with Mr. Hunt for his declaration that the
people Ct several popular districts, whom in the
he had addressed, were, hout exception opposed to
the bill-and spoke of Mr.. ii. as pretended reformcr
Mr. Hunt retorted and charged Mr.. OConnel will,
negotiating with the government for Office and compro
missing his principles for place.-Mr. O'Connc in re
ply said che was not surprised at this attack for he
frequently attacked by Tories, and the Hon MeInLc,
for Preston had become Toryn
lie addcd,-As for the HONORABLE Member for Pres
ton, nc courtcd his hostility for ne could longer re-
eognisc him brother Rcformer lie was quite req
dy TO make present of him to the Tories and iump
ing pcnnyworth they would have of him IA Taught He
did not say that the Honorable Member had sold him
SELF to the Tories tor he did not think that thew would
buy the Honoura5le Member, but he seemed to have
courted the offer of purchase by giving of what
he was worth la laugh. He in the proposed mea
means of getting great practical good and he
did not scout it like t!lc Honorable Member.
To this Mr.. Hsnt made this frank repy:-He had
not charged the Hon urabc and Learned Member with
any thing; he had only insinuatcd when the Honoura
bic and Learned Member insinuating against the
honorable and Learned Member for Weymouth that
no was raicing for seats in Parliamen-that he (IIr
OConncll) w0s the last who shoud accuse another
of tafcing for lie himself had traiccd for the law
Before, he had only insinurtc then he would boldly
tell him, In the face of the House and the country that
before the close of the last session of Parliament he
(Ir OC had trafickcd with the Marquis of Anplcsev
tor that seat on the Bench which occupied by
Mr. DoheTty- There would have been no agitation in
Ireland if Mr.. Dohcrty had got the situation in
stead OF the Honorable and Learned Member. Mr.
Bennett was the go-between in this negotiation.
Mr.. OCoSNElL would not have taken any notice
OF the observations of the Honorable Member for
freston had he not introduced the of the Mar
ques OF Angesey and of Mr. Bennett, he was quite
sure That as to them, the charge unfounded. As
aT as MT Bennett was concerned, he said, uneuuivo-
caiy that 1t was totally without foundation. As to
the Marquis OF Anglesey, the Honorable Member pro
DaDiy knew nothing of him, than that he had seen
MN rae about the streets horseback and he was
sure tnat as to him the charge unfounded As TO
hhlseif' nc would assert that since that House had
pceH constituted, charge completely unfounded