Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1831-04-22

Minister declared, and think he will not contra
dict me. that if an Austrian soldier set MS 100. III
ItaIy. France would not consent, and thought ehe
Minister was fully Impressed ~ltn tne Iores y,
what he said; and then when the French natoh
was made to say, :. will not CONSENT, IL was
as il il had declared, II will not perm"
murs from the centres.) The gallant veteran theh
entered INTO review OF the position OF NJ Gas
imir Perrier, that the revolution OF July was
defensive act, which he canyassed and denied.
1t was an offensive attack of the principle OF ma
tional sovereignty upon the other princip'e Oh
:. Divine right" He was loudly applanded.
The Minister for Foreign Affairs-The Hon:
Deputy makes 1t our crime not to have supported
Poland, and, on the other hand, complains OF our
not having prevented the Ausirans entering TIA
ily. Let him tell US whether he wishes fer nter-
yention or non-intervention-(iro uical laug inter-
on the left We have been charged with having
laid down principle that we have scarcely res
pected once Bat THIS time, at least, its appca'
ton was efficacious. If Belgium has been sepi-
rated from Holland, and forms an independent
nation. it is to France she is indebted tor tt
When first these papers were mentioned, L had
no knowledge whatever OF them. Ii all oil The
documents referred to by the Honorable General
had been communicated: itwould have been
proof that war against France never entered 'nto
the views of Russia. Documents in fact, estab-
lish that the Emperor Of Russia answered the
King of Holland: who applied to him for succor
against Belgium, that he would afford him sue
cour on condition that his allies consented TO it.
con now TO the question OF peace and war.
Gentlemen, in laying down generous principle,
France never pretended that this principle was
casus beH-fgeneral aughter). 1t never could
l. into nF al m fbat
France would thereby deprive herself of the pow
er Of considering, before she made war, whether
it was for her honor and dignity to declare it,
The entrance Of the Austrians into Modena is, we
are told,a case for war. Gentlemen, we know when
war commences, but we know not when it finishes.
When we speak of the assurances Of peace that
are given to US, it is replied-''The Powers de-
ceive you; you will have war in all its fury" No,
Gentlemen: if such was their calculation, they
would deceive hemseves-aau for they
would be forced to assume the offensive, and all
the coalitions would come but to expire. for the
soil of the country would not long be polluted by
their presence. The only war that you would
have in your power to make would be war Of
invasion; and have YOU calculated, Gentlemen.
what it would cost we're it necessary for US to
cross Piedmont or the Rhine;as to the ahairsof
Italy, will merely say that the Bolognese them
by forcing Modena. which still defended itself,
to capituate. 1t is not without regret that bring
this reproach against thenl-(scnsation.) We
will make war, Gentlemen, when the honour and
dignity of France shall require it: but when we
are told that we are called to defend all the ma
tons who shake off the yoke of oppression; that
we are condemned to shed for them the blood of
our children, and to waste our treasures, it is
seeking to involve US IN an eternal war; and
hope, that this does not enter into the intentions
either Of the Chamber or of the country-(cheers
from the centres.)
General Lafayette thought it was the dig
nifty and interests of France to support the prin-
ciples she had laid down. l woull ask the Min
lister for Foreign Affairs whether he has not writ
ten that France would never consent to see the
Austrian forces enter into Italy.
NJ. Sebastian made a sign in the affirmative
Strong sensation.
General Lafayette-I would then inquire what
he understands by the words, France will new
err CONSENT
General Sebastani-Not to consent, and to
make war. are very different things laughter
on the lefty General Lamarque shrugged up
his shoulders; and another Member exclaimed,
"Tis' pitiful.'')
NJ. de Schonen-Tis word without meaning.
ptHeI dt bdid) lie NOtuS II VIII nOt
consent" signihed, in ewes of the French people.
III will prevent you doing it, For some time
strange abuse has been made Of words After
having COMPOUNDED the partiZans Of the popular
throne with republicans, are divided in.
to the partizans of war and the psrtizans ofpeace
This manner of thus accusing one another must
be renowned. I would again ask the Minister
whether he endeavored to throw any hindrance
into the way of the Austrians entering into italy?
M.Sebastani replied that negotiations being on
foot, the secrets of them could not be revealed.
NJ. Mauguin and General Lamarque rose to |
speak; but. on the proposition of NJ. Dupin, the
Chamber decided that the further debate should |
be postponed to the discussion of the Finance
Bill presented to the Chamber.
The Chamber then resolved itself into Sc
cret Committee.
La France Nonvele (newspaper) contains the
following: sin order TO quiet the apprehensions
of some individuals, who have been alarmed at
the enormous expense already incurred, any
other result than placing our establishments up
on the footing of peace. we shall endeayor 10 en