Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1831-02-26
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Prom Mr. Forsyth to n. HsriRou.
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DEAN SIN: Our friend, VIM. n Crawford, was in
this place few hours yestsrdsy a. priss,e busne<s
had very unexpectedly an opoeesnnlty TO comply
vith the request made in your letter dated Ssvsnna
January 4s,h had long conversation with Mr.
c. and afterwards read to him your letter. He re-
greite that your engagements did nat permit you to
pay him passing visit by his authority stats in
reply 10 your inquiry. that At meeting cf Mr.. Mon
roes cabinet to discuss the course be pursued to-
wards Spain in consequence IF Gen. Jacksous pro-
ceedipgs in Florida during the Seminole war, Mr.
Calhoun, the Secretary of the War Depart en' :,
submitted to and urged upon the President the pro
prcty and necessity Of srrestng and trying General
Jacksoae Mr. Monroe was very much annoyed by
NJ expressed belief that ouch a step would meet
The public appreciation; that GoLcrsi bad perform.
Cd too much punc DO treated a. q young
error subal'e'n Officer might. without shocking pub
lie opinion. Mr.. Adams spoke with great violence
against the propnsd aud justified the General
throughout. v.hrmenty urging tho President 10 make
the cause Of the General that Of tho administration.
"a consequence Of the strong excitement pr"duc"d
by the Presidents obviou. -mbarra Mr.. Craw
ford nterposet IN the discussion and thst
there was necesr'y for deciding upon the course
to be pursued towards the General as the quns,ioa
Tor which the cabinet was convened did require IT,
| They were called To determine hsw Spain was To DO
treated IN relation to the Fnrda affair; the cnnduct
Of the 0rnera . matter exclusively bet ween the
General and his own Government. IN which however
Span m'gh feel Interested, she had no right to med
die The subject was then disposed Of and was not
! renewed
! AR. CaIhnua had previously communicated to Mr.
Crawford his Intention to present the question To Mr..
Monroe; an intention Mt Crawford approved, oil
though not BELIEVING as he stated to Mr Calhoun that
General woald DO either arrested or censured by
| the Prrsidens.t
| With great respect, am, dear sir, yours,
| JOHN FORSYTH.
Maj JAMES HAatLros, New York
Mr Crawford 10 AR Calhoun,
WooDLAwN, I'd Ocf. 1850.
| SIn-Since the adjournment Of Congress, the cory
OF letter from you to thu President containing el-
! ven rhoe :. has been placed In my hands The OBJ
ject Of thus laborcS essay prove that atrcn,
con. aimed IN letter from me the HIM. Joo For.
syth Of he S~naie Of the Uned 81 es is in correct
there was no evidence hu that which Is con; aimed
IN that eseay, should not be afraid of convincing
every rctia1"l and un?rcJud ced mind that my state.
inent TO MIR. Forsyth is Substantially c,rr.c
! In the brief comment winch intend 10 IN lie upon
ynur essay OF eleven sheets, | propose 10 avoid the
example you have in three th;ru. W. si,. n
n begin by deprrcaiing the official dignity and
weight Of charscc CT Of the person address: when |
me- with a fact Thar cannot frankly and distinctly
deny, will not att mpi to prove q negative by arru
Inen and shall not falsely and ccy profess
a forbearance which 7 do not feel
shall first notice your observations upon the dseio.
sure OF the secrets of the cabinet, which you say
the INST that has occurred at iess, in this country
Do you really believe this assertion Mir. Gslhoini
How did the written opinions of Air. Jefferson and
Hamilton, the first bank bill ever see the ngh,
How were the facts and circumstances which pYSse-
ded and accompanied the removal of Edmund Ran.
doiph from the State Department. BY General WISH
inston. disclosed aad made know to the publicly tf
your assertion be true those facts and
would, AT this moment, be buried in Egyptian dark.
ness. While cabinet in existence and it's srf,l
ness liable to be impaired, reason and commun arn.r
point out the propri-y Of keeping its proceedings
secret Bot after the cabinet longer exists When
its usefulness cannot be impaired by di,ciosur. az
lie proceedings, nrither reason, common sense nor
pstr'os's, requires that tho.e proceedings should he
snfouded IN imPenetrsb'e darkness The acts of such
cseinei become history. and the axtios has the
rgrf 80 knowledge OF them, thai 4 has To- any Other
historical fact II is presumed that all Nations
entertained this opinion and have acted upon il,
+ Hence the great history of Cabinets the mos, d, g.
Pouc IN Europe. Hence the history OF the house IF
Stuart, BY Charles James Fox, winch d,,cIos-, the
most srcTet intercourse between Charles the H. and
inc French Minister. by which it was proven that
Charles uas pehsoner of Louis the XIV, King of
France and had secretly engaged to re.es,absh Po-
perry IN Engand Yet in the face of all these facts
you dare TO presume upon the ignorance Of the dis
tingn'shed person you addressing so far as to
msinuate that such disclosures had never been mad.
N any country, but certainly not in this repub!ie
! The next thing which shall observe is the man
ner IN which you attempt 10 obtain evidence to con,ro
vert my statemen. 90 Mr.. Forsyth That statemen,
contained one prominent and distinct fact; every thing
IN that statement was secondary aud collateral to
That TACT IL was reasonable, in conrovertiue tina,
ment, that you should have sought to obtsn evidence
TO controvert that fact. You apply to Mr. Monroe and
mr. "n' IN evidence. But OF wbaU Not of the
principal fact but OF secondary collateral natter
The omission TO appeal to Mr.. Monroe whether Won
made the propositions sscribed to ou in my letter TO
Mr. Forsyh, 10 strong presumptye evidence that you
believed ms answer would confirm my statement You
rems4oered the excitement which your proposition
prodaced in the mind and upon the feelings of the
NH Cawind has since admitted thi, to be .uoleou,...
ms letter TO MIR Forsyth page Of the published coe,pou
oence' and bis letter to hr Calhoun, herewith publisher
tFor different version Of Mr. Craword's course in In. ,
nei see MIR mcDufes letter page 49, panphs, rore,,n
henCc, copy Of which, upun Mr. t,a~L,.
leilcI 10 Air "a lhnln kcIa. ~ 'oIN.