Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1831-04-12


MOTION As most respectful to the Senate and most
likely 40 be productive Of good' He expressed the
convection that he had felt in authorizations that the
senate would tako precisely the course Il had IN.
ken. Something more THAI the Juicinry bill
The rights IF tie Hpvse. werc navy involved. lie
demonstrated against the course ul the Senate as
Erasping power which under the Old constitution
they never had. and were dEbe 'nt To pOsscss
The Senate dictated i course, and il was expected
,ns u'hic won.i surrender ittrgh,s 10 heir die
Ia'loh!- Mr. L@igh proceeded wuh g-ea; vcl!ch"Hcc
10 dtn"rAec ha course ~ the Senate uS usit ping
dictaor'0 and disrcpcc tai and ~ st natnea!y cal
led upon ia" majority in tic II 'usr "r Delegates
TO resist dictat'n and adhere 10 their ground.
Mr.. Gilmcr hr.olY and rnergciically, vlni Gated
The Course o: the Senate. rs constitutional aud CO.
ordinate branch of the Government, representing
precisely the same prrp'e, and deprecated warmth
rs prejudicial 10 the public interests lie oppo-
sed to conference this time, until had egain
rendered the Senate tho olive branch of compromise
and Cancellation, and yl1dr cur: settle the
disagreement in the usual mode Mr. rnquired
OF the Chair what would be thu effect at this Houses
receding from their sagrcenlcDt 10 the S-nates
amcndmant:
The Chair replied Tim; the effect would b, 20 re-
bpcn the Senate amendments 10 farther csn.ni;ceH,
by the House.
Mr. GiImcr said that he would th,r.sore in The
event Of tho motion for conference not 'cdlng,
again moved to amend tho Senate amendment, by
striking out @ as the number Of Judges and insert
ing TO- He was equally opoJscl 10 g Us to3 icw
and to 81 as too many
MIR. Witchcr Ia an animated speech defended he
appeal which the gentleman from IIcnrco had ma de
to the passions and 5vc al power of thr House.
Did not that body every day reject bills: Were they
not vested with he power hv he Constitutions We're
they blindY To Register the chcts of the House and
to have no power to chlnge them: Mr.. w also
opposed the conference incNpcdient before it
nscertained whether the House would not rccede.
Mr.. Gimer understanding that hrs obiec, cDull be
effected a well in conference now withdrew his
motion to rccedc
Mr. Brodnax supported Oh, motion for confer
discussing the relative rights anl powers of the tw
Houses, admitting hat they were co ordinate but
con,cndng thu, II ciIher give way, i; was in
Cumbont on the Senate. rs less InnoJiatcy rannc,
ing the popular will han the House Of Delegates
Mr.. Maxwell succeeded IN support Of the MORO
for conference. and proceeding To rcgre, the warmth
with which the gentleman from Usunco (Mr. Leigh
had expressed himself III regard 10 he Senate
Mr.. Leigh rose corr"c, q misana5rllen.i sion into
which he perceived AIr Maxwell. as vel as Mc.srs
GIlm-r and Wrthrr had fallen. which was that hrs
remarks were applied to wha; the Senate had DONE
He had imagined Hypothetical! case where The Sc
rate refused to grant conference and assign their
reasons for insisting upon their amendments. and to
that Hypothetical case he had addressed his ob5er-
ya,ions.
Sir. Maxwell proceed 10 iuculcate harmony and
spirit of Cancellation, IL persuasive and eloquent
manner, advcring to the uscirssnrss Of gong into
conference with temper resolved per;inaclonsly
yield nothing, and depicting the consequences of dis
cord and separating W.T. homt dung any thing
Mr. EPpes opposed the motion for conference which he
something like disposition compromise While members
were challenged and appealed adhere their
lie defended the Senate having done nothing they
had the constitutional right and power do II conference
was had and failed, and the houses adhered all hope
Of recedg mulpd the agreement conference
wa, the last cXpcen and recourse ought to be had
t!n' every other had failed
Mr. Gholson replied Nr Eppcs comendu; that the course
suggested by him would lead to conference merely
details principle been decided MIR {;
entered INFO the history OF the bill between Houses
Of expecting TO recede, aud urged the Popey of
ference the respectful efficient and
Mr. Morris addressed the House length explanation o.
the which acimated HIM Gesie conference and
texpanaions ensncd between HIN and Nies Wi;ocr and
Erpes-Mr Witcher presenting many original views
Nessrs Campbell OF Brooke and frodnax some ex-
PLANTATION 10 what had fallen from them former debates
Mr. W,cher proceeding - state his views considerable
length,
Mr. Tyler called him to order considering great part tue
debate which had oacurTed Is out of order
The Chair acknowledged that the debate had Irregular
lin, members calling that he should proceed Mir.
W:chcr briefly concluded what he had TO say.
Mr. Morris said few words in explanation
MIR. Leigh followed brief explanation remarks mace
when he first spoke, again recrng the hypothetical gco.ds
upon which he had placed what I've said been
construed into dsrespect Of the Senate That srcspect
dsclaned Mr. l. proceeded at length to support the motion
MIR Glme understanding Chair tina, II there was
conference, the coneree must he appointed from majcr
~ friends of the double judge plan. declared hi purpose
making the question on the conference test question: and
called upon the friends of the single Judge plan oppose
conference. they couid gain nothing by II The House
refused conference. he would then the
Scna,es amendment, in order again amend by substituting
The question then taken TN, rno'on confer.
,nce, add decided in the affirmative As follows:
AYrs-Messrs Banks, lSpraker) Bayiy, w Wool Terll,
Eenney, MCue, Davis az - Ilrushaw Anderson. M.st
CampheI Gholson Shrll, iaoccy Halliburton, Watkins,
Burfoot Wilson, Brodna&, Wright, James Marshall. NJ Ma
son, Casenan. rcten. Bryce Erkiu", Claiborne Morris
Seymour, DAWSON Williams. Leigh, ATKINSON, Lucas,
Gallahcr, Summers, iooc. Pollard Hays Lawson. W T
4 Mason, Knox, Goofc, Nav;crs. Cnh1nn, Garland. Nc
Iaughlu, Murdiugh Thompson, UphuT Blackwell n An
dnrson, Jacobs, aurott + Miller, Inn, Venabr Shield,
Evcs, Tyler Moore. Mcdowell, Lewis, Williams, Cool.
VIM Hamilton, noucure, Crrr? Newton, Ctocke,t Max.
we'll cfarland, Ruhstioord-7i
Nors-Acssrt Drummond, Glmcr 6 VI Garllnl Nayse
Il Campbell. Christian Spurlock, w Eivcs Clay TAYLOR
Eroadus G'hou Jcncs, Chichester PAYNE, CP0we Fiaand
~ Wood King, Hail Green !assy, Durn Ca:sks!nn Over
Scmple, u Pollard, Leland, Ewing Caldwell. Pondrxtrr
Street, Hugns, Newman Waits Blne,ey, Preston Hclmcs
OFcuall Davis Of Oange, liner WiChcr Swanson BAXTER
Hart, RlcAIahon, alexander Ensore Gatcwood Epres
Gillespie, Mccoy McCuoch, Keller, Lefwch--5j
Mr. Leigh then depu'rd the adoption oGte
resolution ScRae and ask then conference therein
COURT OF APPEALS.
on motion OF MIR Ghoon, o House proceeded execute