Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1831-04-12

CONVICTION that he had felt in authorizations that the
senate would take precisely the course il had Ia
ken. Something more than the Judiciary bill
The Rights IT tie House, were now involved. He
demonstrated against the course of the Senate
grasping power which under the old constitution
tney never mad. and were never dreaint to possess
The Senate dictated course. and il was expected
this House would surrender its rights 10 their die
tation! -Mr Leigh proceeded with great vehemence
to denouace the course of the Senate usurpinp.
dictatorial and dsrep"crul, auI earnestly cal
led upon the majority in the House Of Dsega es
to resist dictaton and adhere to their ground.
Mr.. Gilmer briefly and energeiically, Wind ca ted
the course of the Senate, constitutional and CO.
ordinate branch of the Government, representing
precisely the same preple, and deprecated warmth
Us pretudical 20 the public interests He was oppo
sed to conference at this time, until we had aUaln
rendered the Senate the olive branch of compromise
and cancellation, and made eor, settle the
disagreement il the usual mode Mr. G enGuired
OF the Chair what would be thu effect of this Houses
Tecedsng from their disagreement to the s'enates
amendmant?
The Chair replied TINT the effect would be to re-
open the Senate amendments 10 farther amendment
by the House
Mr.. Gilmer said that be would therefore in the
of the motion for conference not succ ocdin
again moved to amend the Senates amendment, by
striking out 10 the number of Judges, and insert
ing 20. He wac equity opposed to rs too few
and to % as too many
Mr.. Witcher i'll animated speech defended the
course of the Senate Legitimate, and regretted the
appeal which the gentleman from Henrico had made
to the passions aud love of power of the House.
Did not that body every day reject bl!s Were they
not vested with the power by the Constitutions Were
they bindy to register the edcts of the House, and
to have power to change them? Mr.. w also
opposed the conference incxpedient before il
ascertained whether the House would not recede.
Mr.. Gilmer understanding that his object could be
effected we'll in conference, now withdrew his
motion to recede
Mr.. Brodnay supported the motion for confer
with great zeal and eRrHcstness incident ally
discussing the relative rights and powers of the tvs
adj hat hou ord;p h,f
contending that If either give way, il was in
cumbent on the Senate. as less immediately reflect
ing the popular will han the House of Delegates.
Mr.. Maxwell succeeded ia support of the n OF ion
for conference and proceeding regret the rmth
with which the gentleman from Henrco Mr. Leigh
had expressed himself in regard to the Senate,
Mr.. Leigh rose to correct misrepresentation into
which he perceived Mr. Maxwell, vel as Messrs.
Gilmer and Wither had fallen. which was, that his
remarks applied to what the Senate had done.
He had imagined hypothetical case, where the Sc
refused to grant conference and assign their
reasons for insisting upon their amendments and to
that hypothetical case he had addressed his obser-
vations.
MIR. Maxwell proceeded to incucate harmony and
spirit. of Cancellation, in persuasive and eloquent
manner adverting to the uselessness of going into
conference with temper resolved pertinaciousy to
yield nothing and depicting The consequences of dis
cord and separating wit bout doing any thing.
Mr. Eppes opposed the motion for a conferences which he
deemed and useless before indicating the
challenged and appealed to, adhere their
He defended the Senate having done nothing they
had the constitutional right and power If conference
had failed, adhered all hope
of passnga bill passed. whereas the preferred
of fecedng, mupd the chances of agteemen conference
the last expedien and ought be
until every other had failed
MIR. Ghoson replied Mr. Eppe oonendng
suggested by him would lead TO conference merely as the
esee no the S the
the purpose of showing the relative Difference and
or5eaance which this House had displayed the
ness of expecting to ecede and urged the propey of
ference the most respectful etcent and concaory
Mr. Morris addressed the House length in explanation
reasons which conference and
Explanations ensued between him and Ness Witcher
messrs Campbell Of Brooke and Brodsax made some ex
PLANTATION what had falsn from them in former debates
Mr. Wiche proceeding to state his views considerable
length,
debate which had occurred as out of order.
Chair acknowledged that the debate irregua
Wcher briefly concluded what he had say.
MIR Morris said a few words in explanation
Mr. Leigh followed in brief explanation of his remarks
when he first spoke, again recing the hypothetical grounds
upon which he had placed what he said ami which
construed into dsrespec Of the Senate That dSrespec
dsciamed MIR proceeded at length support the
for conference.
MIR Gimer understanding from the Chair thai if there was
conference the conerees be appointed from
ty friends of the double judge Pan declared purpose
making the question the conference question: and
called upon the friends of the single Judge plan oppose
conference they could gain nothing by If the House
refused the conference he would then from the
Senaes amendment in order again TO amend substituting
20 for I8judges.
The question was then TAKEN the motion for confer,
ence, and decided in the affirmative follows:
AYEs-Messrs Banks (SPeaker Bayly, Wood Terriil,
Kenney, MCue, Davis of Henshaw, I Anderson Miller
Campbell Ghoson, Shell, Yancey Halybuon Watkins,
Burfoot, Wilson, Brodnax, Wright, James, Marshall J NJ Ma
son, Castleman Peen Bryce Efskine Claiborne, Morris,
Seymour, Darisson G Williams Leigh, Atkinson Lucas
Gallaher Summers, Hooe, c Pollard Hays, SON. w II
T Mason, Knox, Goode, Yawters, Cohoon Garland Nc
Laugbin Murdaush Thompson, Upshur Blackwell An,
dersou Jacobs Panio'! Miller, znO Vsua6e Shield
Rves, Tyler, Moore, Mcdowell Lewis, Williams Good
win Ha%!on M9nTUs C5R Newton Crockett Max
NoEs-Nlessrp Drummond, Glmer. S NJ Garland, Niaysc,
Campbell Christian, SPurlock, w M Rives Clay Taylor,
Broadus GDson Jones' Chichester, Payne, Powell Holland
w Wood, King Hail, Geen Easey, Dunn Cakadon, Dyer
Scmpe; Pollard Leland, Ewing Caldwell, Poindexter
Street. Hudgins Newman Watts Bnssley, Preston Helmes
oFerral Davis of Orange, hmer, Wcher SWANSON Baxter
Hart Mcmahon, Alexander Kilgore Gatewood Eppes
Gillespie, Mccoy, McCuoch, Keller, Iefwich-55. -
MIR Leigh then depuled to the adoption ofthe
resolution Senate ask conference therein
COURT OF APPEALS
On motion of Mr. Ghoon, the House proceeded TO execute
he joint order of the day. for the election of President
Judges Of the Court Of Appeals
For Office of President MIR Ghoson nominated Judge
Francis Brooke, present the President Of that Court and
passed merted euogUm upon his character and
Mr. Davisson nominated Henry ST George Tucker now
Chancellor Of the Winchester District
uornina fad Poho ut, IL.