Lancaster gazette. [volume] (Lancaster, Mass.) 1828-1830, 1830-02-09

President had recently Recommended to
the attention of Congress the claims Of
South Carolina, and he thought that il
would be well to have our own claims nm.
der consideration at the same time with
those OF similar kind of sister State. He
believed the resolutions would serve as q
stlmulant upon the attention of govern.
ment.
Mr.. Sibley, of Sutton, believed that the
government had already done all that i,
intended to do-they have acknowledged
that our claim TO certain amount was
correct land further than that they probably
would not go--to pay any thing appeared
to be very remote from their intention
He thought the resolutions would do nc
good.
Mr.. Shaw, of Lanesborough, consider.
ed the resolutions to be Of most feeble
character. absolute milk and water, ant
therefore notwithstanding the opinion o.
the gentleman from Dedham, would no,
90 for stimulant. He thought we had
tried these soft and gentle methods Of ap.
plicatlon for government justice long
enough. He did not like this plan, so
derogatory to the dignity Of the State, Of
edging gently up to the elbows of out ru.
lers, and in beseeching manner, task.
ing if they do not think it is almost time
to do us justice" But perhaps however
this moderate course was in accordance
with the wishes of our Executive, and il
was not for him-[Here Mr.. Child, Of
Boston called the gentleman to order, on
account of alluding TO the opinions ola CO.
ordinate branch of the State govern
ment.
The Speaker decided that the gentle
man from Lanesboro' was not out of Or
der, inasnuch as he had parliamentary
right to allude to opinions which His Ex-
cellency had transmitted by message to
this House. 4
Mr.. Child.-The chair apparently does
not exactly understand. SHAW The
gentleman from Coston is mistaken it is
he that does not understand.
Mr.. Shaw then proceeded to say, that
it was not for him to recommend to the
House different course from that which
was desired by the Executive. The leg
islature had some time since constituted
the executive their agent in prosecuting
our claim, and it was for our agent to ad-
opt that course in the business which in
his discretion he may see fit. He beiev-
ed that the Executive considered that res
olutions Of this kind would best help him
in his endeavours to obtain the liquidation
OF our demands upon the notion. Let US
place in the hands of our agent that kind
of weapons which he feels will best SUBJ
serve his purposes, however weak and in
adequate to the point to be attained, we
individually may believe these weapons to
be.
Mr.. Child here again called the gentle
man to order and he said he must insist
that the words be reduced to writing, that
the Chair might make formal decision.
The Speaker said, the gentleman from
Boston will commit to writing the words
he snpposes to be out of order.
Mr.. Child then went to the Clerks
desk, and after writing, handed to the
Speaker the following as the substance of
Mr.. Shaw's words" The gentleman
from Lanesboro' says that the resolutions
are milk and water, and that they are,
such weapons as the Executive Of the
State can best use in fighting his battles
with the General Government"
The Speaker said. that gentlemen
might make another say almost any thing
he pleased by bringing together words
which were uttered at different times.
The words written down, as the language
Of the gentleman from Lanesboro', com
posed the first and the last sentence of his
remarks; all the intermediate sentences
we're omitted. The gentleman from Bos-
ton must be aware that it was torturing
sentiments to place sentences in apposi-
lion in this manner. The chair could
not consider the gentleman from Lanes
Doro' as out of order, and he would please
10 proceed.
Mr.. Shaw was proceeding, when Mr..
Child wished to ask him if he did not in
end to express what he Mr.. CO. had
placed on paper. He would throw him
self on the courtesy of the gentleman, and
solicit an answer to the question.
Mr.. Shaw said it was very evident,
whether he had been guilty of a violation
If the rules or not, that his friend from
Boston was anxious-most mischievously
lnxions-to get him out Of order. But
he should not plead guilty to that indict-
nent. He would here take the opportu-
,ity to declare. that in all the decisions of
he Chair--whether they affected him or
,ther members, and it had been his mis-
ortune, in more than one instance, to
'tep over the strict rules of order in the
warmth of debate-al the decisions ofthe
Chair were founded in justice. But, sir,
what is to be the effectof this mode Of
listorting language? Sir, the Scriptures
'ay, There is no God. The fool hath