Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1830-10-02

hcrcdrary ciVi aud religious liberty. God forbid
that II should ever happen here or in France that
the people should not have the right TO choose the,
own rulers Here was great nation that had osca pei
from opPression escaped from the threats ol an an
archy even more oppressive than oppression. We
had met To congratulate hem upon their success SC
Tar as they hsd gone Ii required time for any nation
to perfect their government Il ca slcr to amend
existing institutions, than to ryerurn them, and
taoish new ones IL wns better to redress actual
evis man 10 indulge IN speculative opinions This
the French nation had done. They had succeeded
IN the establishment of sefgovcrfmCnt: in securing
government ut heir own choice: And resolution
proposed 10 greet them on the adoption Of constitu
nom on the attainment ut an object which seemed IL
be dear to the hearts of the French people
Mr.. DALLAS said il struck him tina, the language
TO be used on this occasion WAS not unmportant as
connected with the character and intelligence of this
meeting. We were speaking To distant people,
who perfectly knew tn grounds of their own move
ments We should, therefore. address them IN a
language which they would understand, and which
would show them that understand the subject on
which we addressed them He thought that both
the views which had been taken OIL the resolution
were erroneous to certain extent, ar rather that
neither wac true without the other. The revolution
had commenced with the of rIre la chdrie! That
was liz commencement By TWO ordinances the
hing had abolished the liberty of the press, and dis
solved the chamber of deputies. THIS had produced
the fame THIS had accustomed tho cries of "lonn
live the constituton!N In this sense the revolution
had been a triumph Of tho constitution But fresh
principles, not found in the then existing govern
mont, had been Incorporated into the new constitu
ton. Church and state had been separated The
principle, that all power derived from the peo-
! Pile. had been asserted, The article TOUCHING the
liberty o! the press had been varied perhaps to
place 1t on better footing than 1t had even IN our
awn country In this sense, IN the language Of Nr.
/ DUANE, the revolution bad been triumph of civil
and religious liberty. In othor respects, he new
government had not been tie product uf civil and
religious liberty. Some oil the bad principles of the
old constitution had been retained. Hereditary mon
al hOrn 8ttnrt
| iragc these to be found III the now constItu-
ton Time would mnuldrr away these bad princi-
Plies, If The spirit OF the age did extinGuish them
at once. An eloquent member of the chamber OF
peers who was IN favour of the Duke nf Bordeaux
as king had admitted and seemed 10 foro,rl that
! free representative government would become the
orde- OF the Id but that the time had moi vet
como for 1t Our own venerable LAFAYETTE CON
sIdCred that tins was not the moment to accomplish
the object III France He sald then, th,t bo,t the
phrases proposed pa thy correct and partly in
correct The constitutional government had been
altered aud varied Civil aud religious liberty had
been viooted IN the hereditary monarchy. the he ed
nary peerage, and The support of the clergy by the
staie But vast deal had been done for civil and
religious liberty. For the purpose therefore, of
showing the French people that VIC understood and
approved Of what they had DONE as far as they had
gone; that comprehend the vast improvement
which they had made upon their former constitut ion
Mr.. Dallas was IN favour of cong graduating them
upon the triumph of civil aud religious lborty, and
Of constitutional government
Mr. DUASE said he still stood on his original
ground lie belonged to The extreme left. The PEG
pie OF Franco had their might, and ovcrturn-
ed the OLD -ystem. They had abated The nuisance
II tins were true, II tho triumph Of civil iIheIy.
We could conIraiu late them on the triumph Of reli-
gious liberty TOR though he clergy might be paid by
the state, anu though they ought 20 be compensated
by the people, every man paying whom no chose, still
none were obliged IN worship God any oil her way
than they thought proper. He wss therefore, rig ht;
/ e he nj
of place. England had a constitutions bur II was ina
ginsry. The abbc Sieycs had one IN every pigeon
hole. Constitutional government, he repeated meant
any thing or nothing. After what had happened
could 1t be sald that The French people did I'M
dGrstand their rights and Liberties well we' II
you congratulate France upon the triumph OF consti-
tutonal government, somebody might inquire OF you,
which constitution do you mean? That OF Napoleon,
that Of Louis the eigh eenth, the one' He was
the most compromising man in the world; but he
could not give up his ground.
Mr. DUPoNcEAU was afraid that tho meeting was
wasting its time in discussion about words. In this
county, We mad the right to choose our own eXecu-
tive officers and representatives. In France it was
partly otherwise There monarchy was fixed upon
the people forever The peers were 10 be appointed
by the hing, and their Appointment could not be re-
Voked by the people. France Posseses civil but
aot political liberty. Between these there was q
wide difference Civil liberty rendered every man
equal in the eye OF the law All were the ssmo
footing with regard to the rights Of person and pro-
porty. In France this exists. She yet sadly Of
for political liberty: But she would conquer it in time
As American republican, he felt anxious for this
event But he'had objection TO either Of the expires
sIons proposed He willing to convey 70 the
French nation his cong atulaons upon the triumph o.
constitutional government, founded the principles
Of civil and religious liberty. On the general sub
Iecl, we unanimous.
Mr. RANDALL called for division Of the question
Oh the motion Of Mr.. DUASg; so as 10 take 1t frs
on striking out Inc word, constitutional govern
memt." He N favour Of striking out. Any gen,
Ito man would then have opportunity Of moving
any substitute which he might prefer. He wac
pleased with tho county Of the gentleman who had
presented the resolutions we'll with that of tho
gentleman who understood to be their author
Mr. Duponccau Tho words in tho original rcso-
uon, winch had been objected TO, might be liable
nisrnlerpretatIon; and he had doubt that gen
tlcmen would agree 10 such modification os would
remove any liability Of that kind. As Americans
the state Of things ~ France not applicable "a
Us. The French nation had established the right Il
choose their rulers; they had successfully as
serted the right of self government. That wns al
that We were called here 10 congratulate them upon
/ That all that. NJ