Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1830-12-21

Wy a~Nct comn.tee Tor II the facts cut. the
plants which had been made unounlej,a AN expla-
nation qualification OF his ocil conduct by commt-
tee specially appointed 10 give the sticiest scrutiny,
would be more certain aud complete, than coming
"o~ staod'ng cSmmter, wheie ordinary duties were
connected Nth his Department. With these views he
should vote against aIy mobilization OF sudaent Of
the reso'u iiun.
NJ. Kn8 sad. II would appear from he tensr Of N.
reta ,ks vi tGr rec "a from New Hampshire ME
neil tia: there we're some Senators oppressed 10 III.
IossSuuo" OF ne inquiry, or nves,gsIon OF the al
iis- ~ q e p, Oace Dspa,tuc
H.ie Mr. Bsh rSse sni iii claimed aay such in,en.
toe.
Mr.. R'"e wc,ld usnak. why was the gentleman
very an>ous for reference o. the r.s1lu l. N 10 a
select comui tee, when there was comm t,se OF the
Senate afesdY crssnzeJ 20 which the .utj ct psrieu.
'y belonged! A. resp-c C the otjec ion of want
OF uhe, Tor The Investigation urged against the Com.
m''es on the Post Ofcs aud Post ads, /, was noto
rous hat they had nothios 10 do. un,ii bills were
ported aud referred to item. Why, then, sail Mr.. X
these such aGX-sy manifested Tor the reference of
hs sn O. to special committee IL Il Tor the pur
rose oil going Abroad TO impress the public min with
e oeei, that go great had been The abuse II the
and the management OF the sHiFs cotbmi ted 10 the
Post Ohce Department, h.t has been found uecessa
~ To organize special committee TO invesga, tn IN!
he had no doubt that noiwi hstanding the eminent
talents and uuDg iodusry oil bis dsting ushe ed pre-
dsressor the maneg ement OF he Pos Office Depart
ment, under the present incumbent would be mark ed
with as much skili and ability, that by which was
en'r'etetizsd az any former reF.od. He would vote
Tor the amendment.
MI. Clayton said, The & n,leman Gom Alabama
zen 10 suppose, thai the object OF the friends 10 IN.
inquiry, was 20 take away the euhiec, fiom the Conn
mitt-e on the Post Office aud Post ,ads because thew
had 10 corh ience in lhsm. Now. 20 Tar as am con.
eerne ,si Mr. C., suffer me to say 10 Ike gents n,an
nom Alabama, that gave occasion produce such
IN itea IL had the utmost conf lei in the intepr-
" anu abilities ct every mcmbsr OF shat committee
but' cid follow, becau-e he had that confidence in
thei Integrity aud abilities, that he must necessarily
codtie to their Management, a business which he
thought coild be otherwise better conducted? Tie
very arguments OF thu gsnteman from Alabama aet M
d frn 'Y.ff ~, Al.
nan n'ended them. He, timss had no idea I, a. he
Committee OH Il e Pos, Office and Pcs, Road. \ adj no
hioe 10 do he h. ard from day 10 day petitions ard me
norisls referred TO them he believed they were SUI
heien'y occupied in preparing reports and bills % 20
befoc the Semitic and ccui uct spare the time rso,i-
ste to give to the suj-c Of The resolu ion that com
piete aud horoush examination, That its importance de.
manied This OF itself sufficient 10 safety him.
(Mr CO. that the business ought he conhded u se-
lee committee IL would require great deaf of labor
aud research from the committee spp1in ei to conduc,
the nvestiga iOn Tkey would ho IL necessary to at
tend from by day at the Department. order 10 ot-
tain Information, which could o where else be procur
ed; anf, there ore, nothing in his opinion .ull b.
more proper, than for he Senate appoint such com.
ui,tee, would be able to attend operly to the sub
j'ct.
NJ. King said, the Senate was small bo,v. and u
Sena'or' all eogased already He asked il here we
any MT eHEcr on ms or two commite 81 He said tina
all Tho committees hal much If not more 10 do n N
the Committee on the Post Office and Post R)ad.-
Now, said Mr. X. az obi c,ion be urged ag inst
tue Post once Committee, as they must naturally be
supposed TO know more aNout the subject than
there, WY refer This re'ou ion gentlemen who have
more to do and less knowledge Of The subject!
Mr' Layton sa'd he va aware that snme Of he
gentlemen on III Commit es on the Post Office and
Fost koahs, hal other and important duties perform
than thu busnss Of that COMMITTEES; hut that others of
It's members had comparatively little else 70 dc. The
gentle nan from Alabama, might however, Judge fof
him,e t. "a n" (Nr C. would judge for himself.
Mr. White sad, when he made the motion Of anerd-
me ',he DID not ansipIte that much oil setiop woul
BE- raised to il. He did think that according to -s,aS
he flo nnl;
uhm the matter to the eonsiiera Of the standing
committee, 10 which il appropriately belonged. 1t il
rue Ta'd mr. W. mat when business accunulAtes
gr' 1T extent, special committees some i'm rails.
ID UPON reading the resell ton, II apps AIRED 10 him
that every subject embraced in it, belong ed particular.
~ TO the "a les Of the Committee the Post Once AID
Pest Roads; and he, therefore, considering il the most
appropriate reference moved the amendment under
con Iteration. He dill not think thot the committee
was 40 pressed with business prevent them from
'evong sufficient attention TO the subject. He con /.
iered that committee competent 10 the disct aree of
The duty, and it certainly had much leisure as any
other Besides in conducting this inv stiy alton thew
would acquire fund Of Information which would grove
OF great Advantage 10 item in tie discharge of heir
ordinary duties.
ME-. Chambers sail, lie agreed generally with the
principles aid d>wn by the Ssraor from Tenne ssee in
relation TO the p:actce OF APP hitting committees; and
II the case he'ere the Senate could be rolled by
those principles the doctrines of the gentleman wouId
apply. But, he said, when the standing committees
were appointed did into tie head of the Presi-
dent or did il occur TO the Senate that the duties re-
quFru 10 ue performed ny tiis resolution would
come before them! Were they appointed for the pur.
pose OF performing any such special iuty' III. apprs.
n nied they were not. IL the Committee on the Post
Obce and Post II ads directed TO make the inquiry
proposed, they will 30 fr act specific mniuee
by performing specific duty, usually performed
by Standing COMMITTEES.
The question then taken OF the amen 'ment; the
yeas aud nays having been ordered on n,oo on Of Mr.
CLAYTON, AMI decided in the negs'i'~, az follows:
fEAS.-Messrs Baker, Benton, Bow n. Dicke rson
Dudley Ellis Grundy Herdticks, Ited.l Kane King
Pondeste', Stafford, Smith OF MI Tfoup Tyler, White
Woo dhnry.- Is.
NAYS -Messrs. Barton, Bel. Burnett Chambers
chase clayton Foo, freiinghuy II lines John ton
x night, Ma s', NAudain, N1b'e, Robbins, RugSIes
Ssymoor Sis,e', SPrasue, WiIIey.-2O.
The question then REQUIRED on tbs original motion
and was carried wi out division.
MIR Bell moved that the committee consist of five
and that they be appointed by ballot.
MIR. Grurdy Inquired q a Chair, tie rule 10 reIa-
lion to The appointment Of such committees
The President, pro tenn re al The rule an aiormed
him, that the committee could not be ap, ointed By bal
lot, un'-ss by the unanimous consent Of the Senate
AIR. Grundy said that would not he given
MIR Foot afked. II The rule could not be so amended
AZ 10 enable Ihe S-nAe TO sppoint the committee by
ballot.
MIR. King replied. that IL coulj, by giving notice
N iUriher motion having been submitted, the Pref.
dent, pro tenn unced the committee as foilows-
Messr- Clayton, Gsundy, Holmes, Woodbury., and
Hendricks
The Senate adjourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE
The House assembled al IL o'clock, and the Speak
took the Chair.
Mr.. Slorfs, of ". York, appeared and took il seat
a message was received from the Senate, announc-
ing the election Of tbs MIR. Johns as their Chan
lain.
The follow ng resolution, offered ypse-day nv Mr.
Mercer, was considered, and adopted az mod 6sd;
hesoiref That the .creiary Of War be directed 10