Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1830-03-27

position If Greece were not,in the true ana eA'ehu
p pJ ssn.e of the word, at once deGnitively set
tIed "a IN her limits. At all events they were
entitled IN clear statement of the views Of gov
eminent upon the subject. The noble lord con-
cJudcJ bv moving resolution to the following
ELECT
That M modification or settlement OF Greece
will appear to this House to be permanently aa-
vantaaeous to the interests of Europe, or Consist
ent with the honor of the crown of this country
which does not secure to her sufficient limits ior
the purpose of national defence by land and by
sea- and the power of adapting her lnsututioiis "
the habits and interests of her people, Tree from
the probability Of foreign interference;
The earl of aberdeen, after some lenSthehed
remarks on the prospects of Greece, assured the
House. that when the information promised on
the first day of the session had been laid before
it. it would be seen that there had been no I'M
necessary delay; and that the noble lords charge
that Great Britain had evinced partiality Tor
Turkish dominion, at the same time that she be-
trayed the interest of the Porte, was unfounded.
He moved the previous question.
Lord Claricarde supported the original mo-
tor.
Lords Melbourne and Goderich expressed thar
qualification at finding, by what had fallen from
the noble Earl, that Greece would be lett to
choose her own institutions.
The Duke of Ueltingfon said, that by the mo-
ton of Lord Holland, they were called upon To
vote substantially upon the plan which his MaJes,
ty had told them he was concerning with his al
lies. without knowing what the plan Is or any
thing about it. The noble lord was pleased To
blame ministers for great variety OF transactions
with which they had nothing at all to do, which
the noble lord would have known had he only at
tended to these important things called dates
upon which question of this kind-t,at is to say
as to what parties blame attached-almost entire
| " hinged. He blamed them for the Russian war
Now. the ambassadors had left COnstanunople IN
December. He did not come into Office TIL Jan
uary. (Hear.) As for the result, he never had but
one opinion pom it. He thought indeed, that the
same result would have been arrived at. as 1t ought
to have been, in the first campaign. This belns
his opinion, it was plain he must have recommend
ed peace upon just terms with his Imperial Ma
iesty. But noble lords said, in 1929, seeing the
turn things had taken, this country ought to have
put itself under arms in defence of Turkey. And
| here he would take leave to say, in answer tt
many observations that had been made on the
subject, that he firmly believed that this country
never was in such state for war, so great and Sc
perfectly prepared as at the present moment
Never were the different departments Ia such
state as at present; not even when, as his noble
| friend had said, we had to contend against the
| world in arms QHear, hear.) But would such a
war as noble lords were urging have been just
war: Hear. hear.) No; for the first wrong was
done by the Porte. Would it have been polite:
| 1t would not; for at that moment they were in
| NEGOTIATION with France and Russia for a great
object, which was now on the point OF completion
-one in which Parliament and the country took
great interest. Hear, hear. They had not hur-
ried on war, then, in which all Europe would
have been involved. And after all, what had
been the consequence? The Turkish power still
existed in Europe, and he had reason to believe
it would be established upon such basis as to
enable the Sultan to act his part in the European
system. Ministers were blamed for not employ
irg force to oblige the Turks to comply with the
x,ovisions of the treaty. Why this was proved
against by the treaty itself True it was, it con-
templated Interior measures; and, it was In con-
sequence of that, that what he should always con-
slider unfortunate affair, the battle of Navarino.
took place. With respect to the sending OF troops
from France, that was not known here time enough
to prevent their departure. He could assure their
lordships, that Government had been guided
through by the spirit of the treaty. They sought
solely the pacifcation of Greece, not to make 1t
sovereign state; and it was only with view to
its paci6cation that they had come to the conclu-
sion they had arrived at as to the form of its flu
ture government. The noble lord urged upon
the House that the British government ought to
annex Gambia to Greece, to include that which
had actually been excluded by the formal instru.
ment of the allies But before we give the Isle of
Gambia to the Greeks, we must conquer it from
the Turks; and under the treaty they had no
pretence whatever for such an act.
The resolution was then negatived.