Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1830-01-07

ERECTED hn he knew thar lie he eligible nues he
MS functions, Mmscr Of the fSus,,el and ,
mad surrendered those functions he nov STOOD r;,hon
So'iy IN the Church, except member OF the Methods,
or"y IN The Church. that lie had surrendered his clrie Al
functions and the only objection heard made to dis
surrender before the nc asserted Ina, be .c,
e surrender was made before, aud he skei for au or
'' W prove He referred 10 HE
's SITUATION and that of his constituents aud enuneo If
cous hs was no, perpetual ,o,
we uo' I" qoa'iy imself unless he commit sc,c
offence against the laws Church, which would casc
exp"s'on' lie concluded his remarks NV moving 10 &
The report Of the Conm;,ee by striking on, the word
Mr. P ~ u teau una, he Is entitled q his
sEe to certain facts with the n expulsion Of
M b IN WHICH there was difference opinion
Mr hves stated, that the Committee had piven IN Nj
,e .me he required TO adducs evidence a revocaon OF
duced by MIR was not frop hsy ,e oesae a..
soNe Mr. hve, then read irotfthe Methodist Dciliu, e,
M anderson of Bouetourt opposed to the repo,,
n m because does no, assert, that's Blups ~
ineligible s, because he three years ago " 's'
lie aey mas also opposed to the report of the Committee
That the return of the Sheriff prima face evidence in
o ,e g and threw the burden of proof VINO
showed presumptvey tina, Mr. E. Disqualified then a
Committee wrong in taking former decision n9 me
t1o'ise as evidence of Disqualification not follow thai
because Mr. then Disqualified was not now uuaieo
The COMMITTEES ongh 10 have inquired whether at The time rs
ms election he was disqualified not,
ht Garland IN reply contended that after decisions of
.ns House the presumption that the disqualification s,i
exists until the contrary lie The burden of proof was
men upon Mr. - to show That the disqualification no longer
The evidence was insufficient prove that his AN
thoIity to preach had beer surrendered. ~
Mr. Old addressed House in defence of the enort of rho
Conn,ee and the pursued 10y it, lie commended that
n Argument was correct would he impose
prove auisquaiicatIon IN any similar For unless
proof is admitted that Mr. b. had evoslv exercised iI
had taken the former decisions House properly con-
STUFFED tribunal 10 prove The disqualification former peri
disqualification no longer existed
Mr. Carey briefly replied Mr. Old, and resraed his views
IT.. SAID
remarks, and moved TO recommt the report.
nr ayy took pa the debate, and said he should throw
out oil view the gentleman who of the resolution
under consideration; for although he believed gentle
an was mos, ,espscaoe no. only from his short aeHuau
on two asons, The confidence III. p.ope respectable
holds But he void eoner nth, the w nfno cine s
involved in the report that Is, whether The people Matthews
county shall enjoy the privilege e3ecae tie man of rher
thai they shall be by deprived of thar c, !, IS
therefore question of the rights of the people at Athew<
more Than that OF the returned member, who member
OF inns House by The Sheriff Of that county, wD an officer
COMMITTEE onght to have reported facts such as lie tioue
would act Upon aud not thai Mr. Blips returned nc-
per OF TINS House three ago and that same man
iiiat was then dsua hnd and therefore is presumed he
ineligible now Are the people OF Matthews by presrnp
non as TINS to be deprived OF The services of the ,eir
election! he contrary ought have presumed; thai the
people OF Matthew's knowing the objection em;ef
WHICH was urged against him three ago. would
ey elected hun last April, had made themselves
Der, and had therefore him. knowing that he had re-
signed his office of Minister Gospel Surely this tIo,e
~
tne qualification OF members of this Houses they rerse The
Constitution and lei other body but themselves Judge Of
hat until therefore the Committee, person
proved the member from Matthews Minister of the Cos
pei he ought tie required saw one word 10 prove te
negative and the gentleman is entitled his seat until III.
contrary was most manifest by respectable VIII an,
man that Minister of the Gospel
Office and become eligible 10 this house, although the society
wno he belongs may refuse MIN that privilege will pn
In tue power of of religion say that they can
qualify man from being delegated
Mr.. Bayy said he did know al this tay IN vha, .y
the term linSfe, OF The Gospel would appy at the ,;ue
he adoption OF the Constitution, it meant Minister IF
tabsbed church, who had globes and salaries a, Tho cha
the people But ilen they permitted those Nri;..e
resign ther charge and Income members of the Genera!
sembly he nstanced the Rev Mr.. Thurser Of Wnchs The
Rev MIR Andrews OF Williamsburg the Rev Air Sl,4,T
OF York. after these gentlemen had resigned their eee a,
salaries and become legislators they re,e ne, de-
by occasionally preaching their neighbours and friends
Again, the quake have no licensed preachers aud al rei
when they chooses will expel quaker 6om this !iuua
should he on any occasion speak IN meeting, say
preached, and was Minister the Gospel.
Sir, prove the charge Of being Minister of the Cos, q
against the member from Alatrhesyou can send isf the r.
DER aud compel his at,en dance: this is power
Der from Matthews does not possess.
Suppose sir, charge was made against member of this
lo"Se mat he he'd civil Office under the State,
~ years od, would you require him himself? b..
you would say the member, will not put rnu on iTc
fence before the charge is proved.
fhe question econnit then rn,t and dc ,Ited OH
DIVISION, IN the neg tiveayes 40, noes los
ne question was then on the amendment rroruseG
Mr.. Bhups strike the mot fore the ,rrs .3
titled, and the ayes and noes ordered.
Mr. Gmer moved ris repo ON the table lie .st
present in his possession he considered ii very praye que,
ton, and one requiring mature elaboration was question
between the people of the Commonwealth
Matthews ~ r. "
MI GtasoTy was in (avor Of laying the report The tabt,
for the same reasons assigned by Mir Girner "
The question then put LAYING It on the table aud nm
division, decided in the aflirnavc-ayesG go noes ~
MT Whhe gave notice that he should FRIDAY, move to
take UP the bill concerning the Richmond Dock Comranv
And ilen the House adjourned.
NOTICE.
m, business har ocor