Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-02-24
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committee designed TO change IL. na,rs al the rreu,e
avs ny c1lrns the people to 60 to the commissioner instead
property, the resolution ofer 10y wo.id be right
as he presumed this ho.i design, resolution was
neypeiien, and Oppressive"
Ahcr some hEt'cr remarks tom Mossrs Icy, MIR Of
Powhatan tehe and hrrrh tue report of the committee
aud III" resolutions 'aid aside" being tho "a, nexpc-
dent 10 cSisla;c aoh21ce ofe his lime
Mr. Dodidge now moTed tina, the rise ana the
tax bil aai appropriation hl he reported to the House no.
tossing hat nc ucvcr saw much good arise from the committees
Che moon WIS opposed by Air .vor who said ;.a the
consideration OF subjects in committee gave members double
ciuee OF understanding item, and who ns to the
anomnt uSaScs ofihc Cornon"e a!i The oon however,
After some time epea, in consideration Of The France hills
on morton OF Alr Do'ifs, The House atoled in honor
Jf The dar.
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Debate III the Senate on tue Convention.
! Rcn44.s Of .ig,. ,aLLI.A; in support or he SUB.
stitUie offered 6y hin 10 lie amendment Of III
I Mr.. ALLEN said, that havinq pro,osed q s,bsti.
tute for the amendment offered By the gentleman
from Oh stercd, he would briefly advert to the pro
vsiors 1t contained, and direct the attention of the
Senate to the only point in which it varied from thu
amendment. The latter he believed was srbstan.
italy the s'me proposition made by the rrntlopan
from Orange il takes the Senatorial Districts. civ
! ing to each an equal representation in Convention
tke substitute also adopts tte Senatorial Districts
but graduates the representation eccordin1 IN tire
waite population disclosed 81 thn census Of 1890
proposes 10 convened Convention CONSISTING of
/ hundred members hftv elected by .Le
country Fast, and forty from that portion OF the
State vest of the Blue Ridge The white population
OF the State Amounted by the census of $50 TO rac
ton over 100000 The majority in favour ofthe East
was about $1,000, nearly equal TO one sixth Of TIC
whole amount of population The substitute qiyes
10 the Fast clear majority ofeiehtcen members in
I Convention, something than one sixth of thu
Who larger majority than in strictnesS could
De claimed Assuming therefore The white popnr alton
Of the State 20 be the basis Of representa-
ton, ani II will be apparent that the substitute an
proacn9s the point of exact equality between the two
great divisions of the Commonwealth as nearly =.
We coId arrive tot, by any o:her arrangement othe
districts DESTROYS Of ascertaining the sense of the
Sensse upon the simple proposition, by what mode
Should representation III the convon ton be apporton-
ed: he bad in the substitute made 10 other depar
tire ION the amendment offered By the gentleman
from Chesterfield. 1t was not however to DE infer
RED from this, that he approved of much ofthc a.
m@ndncnt as restricted the right of VOTING for reure
scltai"es IN Convention to the frcehol5ers y
restriction whlrh he consccutiously believed v,e
had no right to impose and ifthe substitute shc,Id
be adopted by the Senate lie would ut some tntnrn
time move 10 amend it by inserting clause to ez-
tend the right of suffrage to the long DISTINGUISHED
class Observation-Disclosures
The subject under consideration had been so fully
eiSeusscd' oolh here and in the other branch Of the
legislature that 1t was with reluctance ne nov OBJ
cfuhed himself upon the attention Of the Senate But
II 10 apparent TO ALL that after what has occurred du
ring tho present session, any convent ION which NAV
assemble. Will take its complexion IN oreat measure
1nct fhp
appreciation oftic Legislature. The agitation al the
centre, vi speedily extend to the reuotest quartcrs
o. 'he state 1t Is to be apprehendcd that the Same
roiuctonco to part with power held By no rightfr
tenure tine same feelings Of sectional jealousy, which
nave been displayed in such bold relief here will in
greater or less degree operate upon the conn,uritv
at large lie trusted therefore he would not DO CON
aGcred as tfcsPasSing on the patience Of tho Senate
ltho Hetained them short nlc, while he revicwcd
som" Of the statements and attempted to reply 10
teW ottbc arguments Of the gentleman from Br1ue-
Vicf. lie was surprised to hear that gentleman
IN tho course Of his able and eloquent address com
nIPh' W'tn severity upon the circumstances that the
tnshd' 10 an equal representation Of the free white
people ofthe state, had referred 10 and relied unen
tao principles announced III Tho bill Of rights. To
%hat puter source would that gentleman direct
tIn 10 optSio correct notions Of the rights Of man
ana The science ofgovemmcn2 Where fnot in tho
words Of the patriots Of the revolution are we TO
md The true principles Of liberty clearly declared md
maintnined' We arc told that thssc principles tho
! tieS may be true when viewed aostreoty, and as
ePpicn0le to men IN state Of nuurc DO not and ne
yer were intended 10 apply TO individuals in civil So
ccty; end os evidence Of this our present sysfo1 &C
government framed by the same men, who produced
the bill Of rights, departs from the principles contained
~ That instrument lfnot Intended 10 apply TO man
except IN That state OF nature, in which perhapa he
Wes never known 10 exist, why were thoy inserted
IN tho bill Of lights, and frequent recurrence 70
them enloined upon us, Con any ono seriously be-
1cyo that tho authors Of that instrument would hive
consumed time, 70 them important, in discussing
aid deciding npon principles ifthcy had supposed they
cond mover be applied ay useful purpose md were
IN fact nothing moro than more metaphysical abstrac
, ionS Ihey considered tIpf1 applicable 10 men
wherever contemplated members ofthe body poit
ic; as rights Inherent them, and that ", n any
portion WIS surrendered IN tho c2sting government
u whs done TO cnnblc II TO fulfil the purposes Of its
creation All that are not necessarily yielded 10 effect
tDs object oro retained. But mon c0nftled 10 tho
! Eovcrnne9t none ofthnr rights over tho compact
rom which that goyernmcut derived is existence
" vas necessary for The objects Of government, tlot
! Trey should do So and therefore they arc retained.
rs long ne Tive compact remains uncharred. It ~ the
| Chart by which they have declared the government
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