Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1829-11-21

no opposition to proposal Of this description.
Mr.. LEicH was opposed to tho resolution. He had
supposed that there any body Of law In the world
approved by the experience OF manknd s1 aliogeth-r
ptiona ble the body Of Parliamentary Law.
The committee OF the whole OF the most vain.
able in.,iuons ever devised for facilitating the busi
ne.s of drhbrra,ve body. Ii gave opportunity for
nl' lair and tree Jscu un,ammeied by the forms
necessarily aien'sn, the de nitive action of e-
gi'iatve Assembly. Yet here, said Mr.. Leigh. we
have position abolish all distinction betxe en- the
committee OF thu whole. and the House in its Convcn-
,onal capacity II. effect will be to make the com.
nit'ee oi The whole, the nveuion-,he only remain
ing difference will be that the presiding officer of the
one u called Chairman. AMI the other President.
differ entirely from the gentleo,ans vi w of the
matter. hold that there il great and essential diff
ference between The two, and ia that difference il is
ht H. excellence aud advantage cf the Committee
OF the Whole entirely consists But there precedent fo
IT, The gentleman! has quoted vo but the hrt OF them
IL no precedent at all; for the Convention Of ST voted
not by meiabers bu, by states and necessary TO
declare, which stsies for, and which ain.
any proposition. in order to determine the question. IL
'iruc that such ruls adopted by the Convention
oi New York which sat at Albany in 1920 WHY |
do not know; but th. do know, that therewas in that
Convention such bidding ia the auction Of popularity.
- never was known earth before II seems have
been adopted there in record the bids but here
there is no bidding that know Of and il there shall
DC any, there can be no need of recording il for the
opinions we deliver here, are well known by the
pubic IA II they were recorded on our Journal.
Mr.. THOMPSON thought the gentleman from Ches.
terheIj had not been very happy in his appeal
perence; he had sail that such example could he
furnished. There have been many dsliberaive bodies,
they are OF ancient orgi hut there have been only
few Conven ion., and they belong to modern ti,nss
We have "iuced the experience oil two OF these Con-
ventions; whether she same eNpedient be resoited
To In The Others which have been holden, I csnne
tell but IL is very probable. Bat. how has the gen
iicman succeeded IN showing. that the OF the
Federal Convention 90 entirely dis.imar. as
TO furnish no precedent for this body! The gem
leman says. il is because the there ken ere
given, no, by individuals, but by States, But, sure
~, there was no more need to record the votes on
that account, than il they had been given 10y indi.
riiuas. can see no distinction whatever, in prin-
cip'e; we may just as well record Yates, as
they recorded theirs. The experience we already
had in this Conve nlion, provss the utility Of tho
plan; Tor we have already been compelled to resort
TO 1t. We have been greatly crowded by company,
who have anos, mingled themselves with tho men
bers. This may be the again, and we nav he
again compelled 10 take the course. 1t occupie,
little more time 10 record the than il does call
them, ami surely we have not shewn ourselves penu
rious Of time As 10 the auction OF populary Of which
The gentleman spoke, have nothing TO say, because
he has disclaimed any PERSONAL aluson. Whether he
is right in his opinion ofthc New York Conye ntion in
this respect, cannot tell. have read the Journal
of their debates, and did perceive the evidence
Of any hing of the kind. thought their proceedings
were such ~ did honour 10 ths state, and consider
them well worthy Of our imitation.
Mr. STANARD said that judging from appearances a.
to what the gentemans object was he thought he had
,ax S very roundabout way to ~" at it, his more
direct and obvious course would have been at
once to abogate the Committee Of the Whole His re-
solution did thai in effect; for wi have any Conitt..
OF the Whole, II its eedings he attended with
the same ornaly and to have the effect as those
Of the original body? The gentleman had better march
mp at once fairly, to his object. He has quoted precs
dents said Mr. s and what they: He ventures
TO suppose that the preceden!s in the Conventions OF
all the States ia his favour il is bold supposon
Yet It is little extraordinary that that gentleman Ia.
contened himself with surprising, and has forhorne TO
examine. This will appear str ange to any one who
knows with what accuracy that gentleman furnishes
normaiio, and what pains he takes be in all
Ia la.t. I'D. n
cannot be ignorant at there have been 80 convention,
in this country which have had the service 10 per
form as this aud vet out OF that whole there have
been hut two which have so much thought of re-
cording their proceedings in Committee Of the Whole
One law seems 10 have governed bodies OF that kind
ever since they existed, and in favour of any
innovation Ii il a measure likely to end in good,
and there 10 not the least shadow OF necessity for it,
The question being about to be put
Mr. GORDON demanded that il should be taken by
yeas and nays. 1t was accordingly taken, when the
yeas and nays stood as foliows
AYES-Aies-rs. Goode, Anderson, Coff;nan. will.
iam'on, M'Coy, Moore, Beirne, Smith, Baxter, Mer
Ger, henderson. Cooke, Opie MAYOR Donaldson Boyd
George, hMillan, Campbsli of Washington. Bysrs.
Coyd, Chapman, Mathsus Osle>by, Duncan, Laidley
Summers, See, Dolirdge, Morgan, Campbell OF
Brooke, Wilson. Claytor, Saunders, CaLell, Martin
Gordon, Thompson and Joynes-39
NOES.-Messrs Jones, Leigh & TAYLOR of Chester
field, Giles, Bralnsx. Droomg cole Alexsn Ter Marshall
Tyler, Nicholas. CloptoD Hsrri.on Baldwin Johnso
Miller Mason ,Trezvant Claiborne, Urquhar Randolph,
VI Logan, fSn1bie, Nj 'IsOn, Barbour
OF O'a0gs, Ssuard, Holiday, Monroe Powell Grigg.
Pendeton, Roane Taylor Of Caroline, Morris Garnet
Barbour. Scott, Macrae, Green, Tazeweil. Loyal,
CTigsby Prenis, Towne. PieasaHts, Massie Taiaier-
ro Bates, Neale, Rose BayIy and Perrin-5I.
So the House refused rsscnd the rule a. rropoed
and TO record their proceeding, in Committee of the
Whole
The Convention then proce ,ded 10 The orlsr OF the
day, and went into Committee OF the Who'll, Mr.. Pow
ell IN the Chair an! The Stion still .hg third
resolu ion. reported by the Legislative Committee and
amended by the Conve ntion in the following words:
"Resolued. That the Right of Suffrage shall continue
TO he exercised by all who enjoy il under the rx-
ising Constitution: and shall be extended, lat 10 eve.
ry free white male citizen Of the Common resI. mt
therein, above The Of 81 years, who owns aud has
possessed Tor six months. who has acquired by mar
rage, descent devise, freehold estate, assessed to
the value oil not less than dollars for the pay
ment ottaxss il such assessment shalt be REQUIRED by
law; 81, who shall own vested estate in fee in re.
m1indcr. reveTson, in Isnd the assessed value of
which shall be dollars, 81, or who shall own !
and have possessed rasehod estate with The evidence
Of title recorded OF term originally not less than FIVE
years, and of which shall be pred Of the an
nial value, or rent OF dollars; 4h, who for |
twelve months mex preceding, has been house-kecp.
rr and head Of family within The county city, borough
election district, where lie may Off to VOTE aud
who shall havs been assessed with part OF the reve.
nue. OF the Conmonw aiih within the preceding year
and actually paid the Provided, that
the right OF suffrage shall not be exercised by any per-
son OF uusound mind, who .hab panper, or a non.
officer, soldier sailor marine in the
service OF the United States by any person convict
ed Of any Infamous onsnce by citizens born with.
out the Commonwealth, unless they shall have resided
therein for five years Immediately pre- ccdng the cleo
a hall oiTe in