Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1829-01-10

/ presentation mad been there, this fragrant usurpa-
ton would not have taken place. He read some of
| the names of the usurpers, IRON the Journal
OF the Convention, aud called the attention Of the
| Committee 10 them. He happened to know, he
| said, something of the history Of this county OF
| Yeoghany, and would give il TO the House. He
then referred to the, charter boundaries of the
states of Pennsylvania and Virginia, to the con-
trUvcrsy that had existed about them, aud the
ner i'm which they had been settled, by which
| that territory coded away. He acknowledged
that oh that, as on all other occasions, on which
| Virginia had had any thing TO do with the North.
she had been cheated. Mr.. Doddridge had said,
that the North Western Territory had been next
ceded away-and that in these cessions the only
object of the lowland aristocracy 10 retain the
power OF the state in their hands, and Tor their
own purposes. Ii ought to be recollected, said he,
that this cession was mended by Congress,as
necessary TO allay the jealouses Of The smaller
states, and that it had originated with Mr.. Madi-
| son, who mild the dews of Hea-
ven, and who could be suspected by
OF a wish to Cypress any portion of his fellow cit-
Zens Mr. Nj. went also into history OF this cesson.
He maintained that none Of the measures to which
ausiop had been made, had been adopted with any
such view as that ascfibed-and that so far from
the Western counties having any thing with which
to reproach the Eastern, every thing had been
done for them that justice or generosity could u
ward. But still we had been in delicate, but in
teiligent way ,Denaced with the force of the MAORI
| lyle here expressed his reg,e: that the gem
3.
should have INDUCED in such illusions, and paid
handsome tribute 10 the memory of his most dis
| tnguished grand father
| Returning 10 the principle for which ne con-
tended, that taxation and representation should 90
hand in hand-that those who pay the taxes ought
! to lay them, he contendrd that il involved no sd
crihce OF personal rights. The same measures
that operated upon persons in part of the State
had an equal operation i'll all other parts. The a
ristocracy, "a they had been called, were said al
ways TO have had the political power, and vet they
had taxed themselves higher than others. In the
course of his remarks, MIR NJ. went into the same
calculations which MIR. Old had made, as to the
relations between the taxation and representation
Iof the several Congressional Districts based upon
white population and federal numbers and insist
ed that it was the fairest principle that could be
| adopted, combining something very near the ratio
which ought to exist between population and tax
| alton. MIR. Mua,made some remarks, connected
with the principle 81 representation, on the subject
of the right CT suffrage, and expressed his sur
prise at the change which had taken place in the
mind of Mr.. Doddrdge on that topic. Mr. d.
he said, had expressed on opinion which went 10
the admission of all persons TO vote even under
the age OF 81 mir. u. intirnated his descent from
the generality of the reinarlS.) Mr.. NJ said he
had made the observation to his certain knowledge
whateverhe might have intended to say-But e.
ven if his principle was, that all had right to vote
over Fl years OF age, it very different from the
doctrine he had on former occasion so strenu-
ously advocated on that floor. But TO this ~ w
doctrine he was new convert and advocated il
with the zeal which characterized all Re,c con-
verts.
La reply TO remark from Mr.. Wallace, that we
ought 10 go into Convention as God had made us
he said, that would be impossible, we all had
clothes on, SC. SC.
eve have given but a brief sketch of Mr. Mil
ers remarks, or rather OF the substance OF them
We have not room for more.
After the conclusion of Mr.. hIiller's remarks,
Mr. FitZhugh of Fairfax, with the view OF con-
citation, offered as substitute TO Mr. Pits pro-
position, scheme which based the repre- scntation
in the Convention upon Senatorial Districts, Civ
ing TO each district five membe 8. He was in
duced TO do so, because il calculated 10 recon-
Gle the Earring opinions Of the Committee.
Mr.. Terii called on Mr.. Pitts TO Withdraw his
proposition, and intimaed he hsd in his posses
similar scheme of county representation, which
/ he was instructed by the friends of that measure
TO present, and which did not vary materially from
Mr. Pits
Mr.. Fitzhugh then Withdrew his proposition.
that the sense of the committee might be taken
as TO their preference for any scheme of co,n-
ty representation over that OF congressional dis
trscts-and minated that when that expression
had taken place, he should then offer his PROPOSE
ton,
Mr.. Terrill then made unsuccessful call n
Mr. Pitts to withdraw his proposition; and after some
remarks iiom Mr. Boyd, and reply from the
Chair as to point of order.
MIR. Terrell sad-In conformity with an intifna-
ton which gave few days sihce, on this,
hoor, have risen for the purpose of Offering an
entire substitute 10 the Bill reported by the Com
mittee appointed by this House and which has lust
past the revision OF this Committee. | am sorry er-
frenieiy sorry, that the gentleman from Essex re
fuses TO Withdraw his substitute | am there fore
constrained by parliamentary law to offer my plan
as an amendment TO his, although it is in point of
fact intended a substitute for the original Bill.
! regret cxcee dinghy, sir the existence of disuni
on amongst those OF us, who concur in principle
upon this subject. The bill which now present
Is one that has been agreed upon by a very large
portion of those who agree in the principle
it contains, and although its principal difference
from the one patroDized by the gentleman from Es-
sex, consists in the details yet having been instruct
ed by those who act with me- to bring it forward
aIn not at liberty to withhold it. Mr. Chairman
am not so vain as TO believe that I can by any
thing that could say upon this subject, influence
! the vote OF single member of this Committee
shall leave all argument to those who are more
capable than myself and the remarks which
shall now proceed to offer are intended to Justify
the course have taken and to cast from my shout
] ders the odium which some ofmy western brethren
0 are disposed 10 burden me with. My vote on yes
terday against striking out the first section of the
r Bill reported by the Select Committee has given
much offence. In relation to that vote Mr. Chair.
man, have only TO say that voted against the
motion TO strike out, not because am in favour oil
the feature it contains; on the contrary,
] view 1t with adherence. The principal of the
Congressional basis is Objectionable than
any which has yet been brought to the vie W
oil this Committee; but, sir, j voted against the
motion TO strike out, because | am opposed TO any
other plan of aConvention, than that contained in the
Bill which hold in my hand; and the motion to
strike out, II successful, would have been follow.
ed by another 10 insert Sc con also at war with
my views; and my wish was, that the Bill reported
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