Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-28

of s., Trezvant, Claiborne, Urqrhart, Randolph,
Leigh OF H, Logan, Madison, Stnnard, Holiday,
Mercer. Fitzhuch, Osborne. Powell, Grggs, Mason
of T., MAYOR, Donaldson, Boyd, Pendeton, Roans
Taylor Of Car, Morris, Garnet, Duncan, Laidey,
Summers, See, Wilson, Barbour of c., Scott, Ma
crac, Green, farewell, Loyal, Prentis, Grirsby,
Clayton Branch, Towns, Stuart, Peasants, Gordon,
M"ss'e Bates, Neale, Rose, Coulter, Joynes, Bayly,
Pcrrln--69.
So the amendment not carried.
The question then required upon the ST resolution
as amended.
Mr. DoppRrpGE moved 10 iay the LIST and Cd rcso-
lutions on the table give time for the Offering
proposition which he believed would be acceptable
TO the Convention.
And Thy We're then laid on the table
The 3detSsltion was then tuken up, and consi-
dcrcd.
MIR. DoDDRIDcE moved to strike out the words
except justices of the county courts and the alder
men, or other magistrates of corporation courts"
The resolution then agreed to.
Inc 4th resolution was then taken up, and agreed
TO.
The 5th resolution was then taken w, and corsi.
dered.
Mr.. UrsuUR moved to strike on: The words ''when
vacancies shall occur in any county. ii shall from
any cause be necessary 10 Increase their number,
appointments shall be made by the Governor on
the recommendation OF their respective county
Courts, and substituting q provision which propo-
scs to divide the county into wards; the qualified
tiers III each ward to pass upon the persons nomna-
ted by the court for magistrate, and If the voters
do not like the nomination, then they to recon-
mend some other person: the Executive 20 select be-
tween the two
Mr. UrsHUR addressed the Convention in favor of
his amendment lie said he had no objection 20 the
county system in its practical operation but as
some were greatly dissatisfied with It's theory, and
he did not himself wholly approve IL, he offered
TINS plan, rs gong to remove IN grClt degree the
objections that 1t was selt-cceatcd body, and yet
preserve the benefits of the system. lie then called
for the ayes and noes
Mr. JONES was opposed to the ou'eniacnt, and
stated his objections. II would in effect give tic
election of the magistrates The people Of the scyc-
raj wards His objection not because ne dis
trusted the capacity Of the peopc TO elect their
officers for of this he had fears, but because IT
will cause local parties and excitemcnts, and will
have the effect to influence The decisions of the ma
gistrates and poison the fountain of Justice at its
source
Mr.. Powell. stated his objection to be, that ward
would have the power TO control elect magistrate
who was to act throughout the county,.
MIR. UPsHUR IN reply, said the provision was not
that tho people should elect, but that IL the
ton ot the county court be not agreeable 20 the
people they might submit another person to the EH
'cutlve, from whom the Executive NAV select He
ienied that the people would elect the justices in
my other sense, than the county court would Mr..
Jpshur also denied that the ma gistratcs could be
influenced by the considerations mentioned by Mr.. +
Zones. In answer to Mr.. Powell he said he had not
ause OF the difficulty Of ascertainng the opinions of
he whole county, and to avoid the eXcitenents and
arty divisions, which would arise in the county AS
nomination by ward, 1t would not bind the coun-
y. 1t might unite with the ward or court nomina-
ion, and from these different recommendations the
Executive would be better able TO make udicious
choice.
Mr. CoALTTR spoke briefly in opposition.
Mr. GORDON and Mr.. ScoTT in favor.
The ayes and noes were ordered. Ii
AYEs-Messrs Gcode, Clopton, Anderson, Cofinan,
Harrison Williamson, MC)y. Moore Bcirnc, Smith
Miller, Baxter, Henderson, Osborne Naylor, Donald
ION, George, NJ MILAN, Byars, Chapman, Mathews, o.
5leSby, Duncan, LaIdey, See Doddrdge, Morgan
A Campbell, Wilson, w Campbell, Clayton Saun-
lers, Cabeil, Martin, Stuart, Gordon, Thompson,
Nlassie. Neale, Joynes, Bayly, Perrin, Upshur-43
NoEs-Messrs. p p Barbour, Jones, B. w.
Leigh, ). Taylor, Giles, BrodnaX, Drongooe, Alex
ander Marshall, Tyler, Nicholas, Baldwin, Johnson,
J. Y.Mason, Trezvant Claiborne, Urquhart, Randolph,
w. Leigh, Logan, Venable, Madison S,anard Ho!- !
!aday. Mercer. Fitzhugh, Cooke, Powell Griggs, ]. |
M. Mason, Boyd, Pendleon, L. Campbell, Roane,
W. p. Taylor, Morris, Garnett, Cloyd, Summers,
j. s. Barbour, Scott, Macrae, Green, Tazewell,
Loyal, Prentis, Grigsby, Branch, Townes Pleas
ants. Rose, Bates Coalter-j3.
So the amendment not agreed to.
Mr. THOMPSON then moved to amend by striking
out the following, by the Governor on the recon-
ncndatIon of their respective county courts, and in
sert a substitute.
Mr. THOMPSON called for the ayes and noes.
The question was ordered on motion Of Mr.. Pow
ELL, and taken first OIL striking out.
AYEs-Messrs Anderson, CoiFinan, Harrison, VIII |
lamson NJ Coy, Moore, Bcirne, Smith, Miller, Bax-
ter, Mercer, Ftzbugh, Osborne, Donaldson George,
NJ MILAN, +. Campbell Byar5, Chapman, Mathews,
Oglesby Duncan, Laldley, See, Morgan, Campbell
Of Brooke, Wilson, Campbell of Bed Caytor, Saun- .
ders, CsbeIl, Martin Stuart, Gordon, Thompson,
Massie Joynes, Bayly-39.
NoEs-Messrs. Barbour, (P.) Jones' Leigh Of Oh. |
Taylor Of Oh. Giles, Brodnax, Dromgoole Alexon- I
der, Goode, Marshall, Tyler, Nicholas Clopton Bald
win, Johnson, Mason Of s., Trczyant Cloiborne.
Urquhart, Randolph, Leigh Of H., Logan, Vcnable, !
Madison, StaDard, Holiday, Henderson, Cooke, Pow
ell, Griggs, Mason of r. Noylor, Boyd, Pendleton,
Roane, Taylor Of Car, Morris, Garnet Cloyd Sum
mers Doddridgc, Barbour orc Scott Macrae Green.
Tazcwell, Loyal, Prentis, Gugsby, Branch Townes,
Peasants Rose, Bates, Ncale, Coalter, Perrin Up.
shur--jg.
So the motion 10 strike out was not carried.
Mr. CLAYToR said it seemed well settled that o
majority Of this Convention, aud probably maiori'
Of the people, wore satisfied with the presenS~T
Of eIecting the magistrates but would II - ~ pro-
per place 10 in the power Of the LeUslatnTe TO adont