Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-12

hiuiscH from responsibility. willie an obstinate man
would ask the advice merely in obedience to the IN
functions OF the Constitution and then rive him
hDerty TO disobcy it. Ssx--.,.-
lie referred to the divisionoF departments propos
Gu IA the Executive. The effect would be to intro
duce men who had only KNOWLEDGE OF the affairs
belonging to each individual, and not certayty of
know ledge of the business OF the Executive. How
could Tins certainty of knowledge be obtained With
o,t an Executive Council? Every member Of the
Executive Council must rely he action Of his pre-
/ deccSsGrs.
Or oreiatlc-s took il into their ioa,s that as ii
would be absolutely necessaryt canile much pat
T0!lac to the Executive ii rlso necessary to d.
vide tut patronage, 30 preya,.esis abuse. If the
proposition q! the geutHulan from IauJ;cr prevail
all the patronage would be vested in the Executive
! hooR OF the patronage Us II TOW Is. The EXecv-
TIVE Oh Virginia lets out every important Contract for
many Important puposrsEss apitssii the Arnory
the r'ntentlsry It Is proposed to give hun all the
pai rona@c y great deal said about cauc.sses in
election Of Governor He did not behave the new
or tcW NJ Tor the situation! Of! little euo!ulurnt
and one nj 10 ambition.
He referred TO the state of the elections of Govern.
or IN other States He referred to Tie new spdper
accounts ofthcm ONLY. According TO them all Gove--
IorS of Pennsylvania from T.io.uas M'Fleau were
me ran%,st fools that could be; the papers state
i4very description OF FOLLY is metamorphused on the
opposite side 10 wisdom He said bad smells aud
perfumes OF every kind We're equally loabsone l.,
him. He cond endure neither. So he esteemed
the abuse and eulogiur1s OF the PreSs Both were.
! equally disgusting to him Go 10 New York, and
according to the papers there all their Governors are
khaNes. y gentleman said that this government
was newspaper Government. Every man merit is
decrcpd--one side praised and the other damned TO
hell, without re,norse
" WI have the whole scene euacted in Virgin
Ia. " regard the freedom ofthe Press as the mos;
nastuiah'c blessing, He was at loss to decide
Whe er the freedom OF the press its iccn,iousness
ne should tern 1t, was greater than the en-
shaving oft
When the press enslaved the country is cursed when
Il Is icen'ios it also cursed This principle would re
"tG tne e!econ OF Governor
He was told that The Executive useless; and by them
VINO 10 not reject on the institution. was MOI aly avs filled
duties faithfully The salary first 500 pounds History
Votd show that the Executive Council u, faor once con.
and one Chief Justice of the u. 6.
The Executive has acted we'll and for all The Lurpascs it was
INTENDED does not become the pruduhcs gentleman
Tram auquier 20 make the experiment knows he is free
and all he wants thai lie the plan which occur
the number and double thc salaries of the rerander hal
was however the b,sness of Legislature Another change
change The mode Of the removal Of CounciapponI
Lieut. Gnvernor, and elect the Councillors for years lie
because limited the years and because il did moi rrn
vide Tor 'hs casualty of the death of Councillors He trusted
ue prooScn OF the gentleman Fannuier would he
rejected lie preferred the Others proposed.
IN Inc motion oil Mr FIrzfuPn, tc Committee Il
! The House adjourned till O'Clock.
When the Convention re- Assem- led ,b,
i'ss ell, into COMMITTEES Of the syhose-
Inc former question being pending,
Mr. Scorr sad his expectation TO renew the lis
custom Much less he expect the renewal Of i, IN
His misfortune different om the gentleman from
Chesterfield as to health That reason alone would induce
nm nor to embark III the discussion He expected silent
the question, friends of the Executive had
hauied all their arguments Tie question in favor OF that
subject was formerly lost The impression was mat it would
not exercise veto. The decision was be thought that either
we should have Council There weight OF argu.
meni on both sides Of the question He endcyored
middle course lie stated the his pan-tlat we
should have Lieut. Governor &C. IL there was no Council
we must have Lieut. Governor His plan embraces these
objects Ithis proposition adopted he strike the
Secon resolution Ills plan differed from that OF the gentleman
from Not1ampton He (Mr ~ preserved of the
EoVernorn The Council whereas he proposed allow him 10
adopt II or not Some of the arguments Mr. T. did not apply
'oihe proPoson he offered Is their advice wort! nothing
whether you pursue or uo VIII you tell the comanier.in
Chief to call Council of war; and obey far With the
argument OF the gentleman from Northampton AS gen
enan from Chesterfield, who has only suffered pain the
scTatch" IL only tie ne felt He mir would
appeal to the body Of the House that the Executive had acted
who into the defence Of the present system IN
u ':E1; alarming their fears This department required he
'caed Inc a'npuiasnS kni He would not attempt follow
the gentleman 'om chesterfield, his arguments were directed
against me proposition OF the gentleman from Frederick,
against the popular election Governor These received their
qu'ef"s few days ago The arguments applied TO the
present question.
He agreed with the gentleman from Chesterfield that the
governor should be responsible.
We told that the Of the Governor were on record
"ewere told by tie gentleman from Charlotte whom he
gre'ed not TO see 10 Inns seat hai publicity the soul of
virtue" We have been told that the Council was excellent
because perpetual That is the condition OF the COUNCIL
recommends And then when the Governor comes in he will
nd two Councillors, two of whom know their business We
were 'OI tat ms Is Tie most responsible Executive in the
would He considered it valuable feature All their char
reriS':cs arc retained IN s proposition Fs il
s perfect ananoy 10 make the Council inferior to the pe
10 e advised VIII you place those powers tie hands of the
Council without conronl the hands Of the GOVERNOR
According to his proposition the Governor may consult his
Councillors and may still 20 forward on his own re-
sponsoiy We thus strike the golden rneaG aud free the Go.
vcuor from tie impu.aon of sinister motives or sinister
views.
lie referred TO an observation he heard from the gentleman
o1 Orange Instead Of having Governor and Councillors
We have Govcrnnrs and Councillor lie compared The re
aon ~ which the Governor stood the present Executive
COUNCIL 70 that Of Governor Sancho Doctor Pcgrue The
Governor may propose but tic Council will resist,
Fo these reasons he said he would against any COM
cl constituted as the present is.
Inc question on the amendment 10 the amendment then
put. and carried IN the megaiive-ayes ~, noes 80.
f FizhCGH proposed to amend the amendment by the fol-
loving resolutions:
;Sogei That the Executive Council ought to be abo!.
Mir Fitzbughs amendment, carried in the affirmative
ayes 30.
MIR MAsoS moTed ha; toe etos, oi the Judicial Cmumas
he taken TIP.
Mr. STANARO suggested tina, the other resolutions the 9Th and
Hb OF the Executive Committee ought to be considered