Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-11-28

az increase of expenditure muei he the rrsul, ,, a..
increase of the number OF tie Senate lie bo,nJ
there would hc div rsity III opous uu this .rhiuc,
IL had been already said that The Senate wa. ,,.nr;
yea Oh the power to originate bihs, ar s,hrp,cs az
hnanrc; and thus leaves them sufficient time ,r t ,b
ern'" al digestion. Here then we lao v soic,h;n,
by ich To demonstrate that the Scna d hL,tnIrs
IN re th'n I've li'ns" of ID legnt,s, and w.. Lave
found II to be so. An augmentation oi' the nm,b,r
woul be productive IL mn Increased ,N,,.ndi,u,e
both on account of he nliii ion To he p,c,nt ,,rh
ana oil the engthening of the SESSION. tie Lon,J
that HE amendment would be iavo,rably rcrcvrJ H.,
the committee. -
MI. LriGu IN rising 10 address the Chair s,;a Vim,
he would not enter into any comparison bct II ,
two propositions. Both at them were abbor,en, =,
hi ideas. lie desired different basis. H., mrrc
~ intended - remark on the argument winch L,d
been used by the gentleman from Brooke in comr,r
ing " with tho argument when the gentleman Ind
used IN the discussion OF the white basis. The zen.
tl"mHn now tells us that as the population of the
West increases, taxation will also incrcusr that no
slaves are increasing in the West i'm grcuter r,t;n
han IN the East but that the increase of power in
tn" West would not be IN proportion Now he had
understood the her day, that considering the course
taken by the States Of OHIO and Pennsylvania ma
The cause, slave property had not increased m the
Wc>t IL there l. TO he this increase of slavoc -,
'hr west cannot the West obtain the power which
they wish by TAXATION, IN the Senate as they woulL
surely have 1t IN the House of Dclcrn,ess He Moi,
have misunderstood rho gentleman from Brooke
but he could no, avoid considering his two arru,
mcntS m opposition To each other.
Mr.fDoppRIIGg said he could not supposc his n.y.,
gunrnt on he basis of representation in The IIousc
was at all forgotten The question the discnssin,
was ihis, whether IT tue power was in the Wes,
there would not be danger of opprcss IN Tho l'
holder in the East, 10 prove that there w.s 49,,
danger he showed the probability of the incrcas, ~
s.a i, on the western waters With the slaves a.
ready there, and their natural increase there would
be an increasing confidence in the East tina, cv boJ
n".nHg injury To themselves TO apprehend But now
less opcesoS may be that we should
nav ess 10 near from The principle of taxation numbers
OF me gentleman to the country III.
lands from the head of Underwater to the ureun ayc rca
water and the Blue Ridge There not much 10 h, caJ
Ie cioe in those parts of the State, any system IF re-
CLAIMING culture There might he thing gained nv ,r,o1
SCI persons 80 population tie hee there was mo- ;nco
the vast numb OF slaves tins the Blue Ridge and d
s.o oil increase compared w'h he neIeasc 10 die
west How was possible for him bring any ,h,p ;ch
Eas' "''S increase III TIC
MIR LEroH said this rather a singular exuIapa,;o =
appeared To h"n To he rather tho inleposion of an
~ the very short remarks which lac had made RE was han,
hoNeVerto see that the gentleman from Brooke concur red IL
me justice 81 the argument, which, when the question M ~
me I's OF the House OF Delegate. before the Com ,r
ne un nor seem To understand 20 clearly does now lie
held that either OF the PROPOSITIONS would give va, ic,
o To the West that a. the white population in
creased the west would gam by that element aud tia, as
value OF properly and Consequently the taxation ncrea,c
oy NAV cement ne West woul gain that IT was en-
ne gentleman now tells It's thai while the slaves in lie
West are increasing quiet fear, nj ,
s y are no' increasing last enough to give the IVES,
au se "i representation ~ the senate tie cou not be
mistaken ~ the language because lie wondered tina, zen,
been oId H..
was Su up against ihls property that ia
runaway slaves would bc no longer sed Thai Penn
hereafter find ready market in TIE Western par, of our S,c
aud tins was said to pacfy fears on the scc, o
impression on his mind.
Tie would no, do the gentleman from Brooke the music.
To suppose that he intended day to irceiv. ,c Con-
mttee when he was giving in the spirit line of proie.v
view Of the increase of the West future day vd Ina,
gentleman does not increase when .,
all equal the proportion which and property viii
increase For himself he was perfectly Indifferent which OF
pitefl,n th,
to swallow was mixed up in preserved cherry or reserved
Looking only to the basis of the Senate
rouse OF Delegates he indifferent which Disguise was use
o' he would take the dose arsenic lie had child IN
Th s anou 10 give do,e of oslonel the other day
ne ohiIn kne" nothing Qs calnmr but had the saaac,v
10 see that preserves were Offered him unusual time Of
day The child was not deceived he could assure tho
gentlemen from tie West that they would not deceive ,
The increase Oft free whites had been continually held o,
US we were told that ibereas intention to ca1aee,i1r W
as aristocra for taking the takn but rTe
20 he" mat our measures arsrocrac He stated thai he
nan certain peculiarly Of taste, which rendered him pec
, lnoaefenl to charges Of arsocracy, made any DO
carBei nut much sensitive, when his conduct in
application the public lie did no, mcan - 800 .
% 3nemee but ne was peculiarly sensitive such spp
S INC WoLi We, gentlemen. the other side when
such ePhet could he applied plausible form, ;n -,
nm arstocIacy because he could GO with them 80 % %
extent OF what they pleased term tho indee,;b % @
asnahe rights Of man authorized by the laws of COD ,h.
nii OF hehs &C. and now that they find there is no such
pncPe to he found in Of the To which ,bev bas
applied or any where csenow they nav found 4 aJv
covered thai here is nothing aocrac in the co,ss ~ h;
Sr snn o.. [nends-no,hne incompatible republican
caieu on gentlemen to meet him in open argument, and
10 shew how and why IL could be ~, has
'e otae on FEDERAL numbers than taxation and
WIN 'hey tel nm there ~ difference dcgreel There s
ueIc Is difference ~ degree but there difference ia min
Gpe-none a, all Are the gentlemen then for atoc,ae, IN
degeeio nfosing mIeraie degree this aris,ocIacv into
republican princple,9 This reminded him of ,n np
the argument the other day The grucmen on the orher e
iound out that the representation OF property IN part ,s a
'ocraucal win the exception II the gentleman from AIrc
who to do hun justice, declared that this principle IN tho n s.
government was just aud proper Now turns Out to he ov
anocrac to carry this principle House nf Dclcga,e
Ou, ha' IS not aristocTatic 20 the Senate
RE would not deiain the Committee now bv gn,e into s
scusson more July hu be might do hereafter unless lie
Hou be anticipated toy gentleman competent 10 do
Juce Ia It's idea that the mixed basis l tho Senate
was notmg that It would tie found Incompetent confront
numbers ~ the other branch any degree lie might herea
ter, 20 pto the discussion, IL no other person did.
Mr. DoDDRIDOE To suggest q single remark The uropn.
siiion assumed had been treated ~ had originated Ir
ihcm " physician present with pills one moro
nauseous than the other surely ~ liberty select ,
will take regard either the mixed basis or the ,s ,
SIS, o. an evil bat suppose the other must be- taken
and must take that which Is the least nausecDs '
Mr. MERogn suggested ~ addition, that We had a Co,s,,,.
and that Il could the form ,Vh,cl ,e ,iL
heeft ia In he'll mall .t