Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-05-18

the recommendation Of the King, and with the june
ton Of His Majesty's Ministers. Uintroduced under
a divided Cabinet, l probably should have taken a
different course from that which i now do, in supper.
ting the Noble Dukes Bill. / fervently hope that
tho measure will be gratefully received in Ireland
and when the subject is fairly considered, that the
good sense Of the people Of England will be no longer
opposed To L..
Lord Granyille-My Lords, ! will not de,ain your
Lordships with very many observations. But having
held ofice-a very subordinate one indeed-unde1
Mr.. Pitt, have had many opportunities of ascertain
ing his sentiments correctly upon this meas,ir G; and
being one of a Committee which was instituted 10
CONNIE mofate his principles, | saw with reyrct that
those who profcssed to venerate the mem ory of that
great Statesman, were adopting q line of policy for
eign to his sentiments. ] rcsis; ed that policy. and
was then driven from those meetings by the toas y
and sentiments which it was my pain to hear givea.
but my Lords, II Is to me IA source of infinite grutif
carton, that those principles are about to become efc-
tive, and / um fully satisfied that when the del,,sion
has passed away, the country will reap the benefit of
the change. III had any doub, on the subject, the
convincing arguments of u Noble Lord in this House,
and a Right Honorable Gentleman in the other,
would dispel them at once. know froma confidcn-
tail communication Of a friend of mine, that that
Right Honourable Gentleman would not huye hest.
tatcd accepting Office under Mr.. Canning, but that
he thought there was a deep rooted preju dice enter
timed against the measure ia this country. ! entire
ly agree with the speech of u Noble. Earl on the
other side, that this measure could be attended with
benefit under a united Cabinet. And | atm convin-
ceu, that while II VIII tend to strengthen the Church
OF Ireland, il, will also give perInanence to the
Church of England, and augment the power of tho
nation.
The Earl ELDON-My Lords, us / have been 20
frequently called upon, | shall now state to your
Lordships the ground OF my opposition TO this bill for
the last time that | shall ever trespass on your Lord
ships attention in reference to this subject. l can
not help saying that am much affected by the situa-
ton 10 which | now stand, and | hope that your
Lordships will pardon me, if oppressed by erroneous
opinions, have ever acted according TO IA feeling of
concious duty during twenty years IN opposing mea-
sures of this nature. | had opposed them in con-
junction with many who claimed from me the most
Hiucere respect Us well as the Il 81 aficctionate re-
gard; but with whom, and deeply DO ! regret it, | am
now compelled to differ. | had opposed these mea
enres against one of the greatest statesmen and the
mast talented minister this country ever knew, |
mean Mr.. Pitt, who was INV personal friend and ben
efactor. (Chcers.) Wy Lords, I have said it is the
Inst time that you will be troubled by nae on this sub
iect. However much | may regret it, ifthis bill pass
into a law Vt will then be my duty To endcavour to
smooth the agitation which I cEl sure IL will produce.
It will be nv duty to teach my coun,rymen to obey
that which is law, and for myself | can pass the
short residue OF my life in retirement. ] have been
called upon time after time to consider this subject,
aud | woald rather perish this moment, so help me
God! than give my consent TO tins bill. Having said
thus much, let me recur again to that great man
whose name | mentioned-Mr Pitt. / owed great
obligations to him in early life; and | here declare
before my countryman. that I never solicited any
NAAAbE hOeha 49, abHh nv aAIAo AAC OAlCO Va Il lAuic'
Minister. / have been called forth most unworthllv
to discharge functions most laboriously, and | have
for many years held great situations i'll the state; bat
i never condcscended to solicit any prefcrmcnt in NV
life. excepting that | desired to retire from the Office
OF Attorney General, and 10 sit down in the situation
Of Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, the iu,ics Of
which | thought | had knowledge and talents to ex-
ecute, and to Il higher station | never thought myself
equal. l was required to ill a higher station, and as
well as | could | discharged its duties. Many thought
of me very ulgently--some very harshly-but !
now say to my country, and in the face ofmy country
I speak it, devoted my whole lie 10 my duiics-I
did all thut English people require from an English
msn. England expects every man TO do his best, and
TO man can do more
With respect to the memory of Mr.. Pitt. it is i'm
possible for me to speak of him IN any adequate terms.
Did Mi. Pitt, my Lords, against the sense ofihe pco-
PIE, ever bring forward this great question: or did he
ever think of bringing IL forward, without securities
that would permanently establish the moral and reli-
gIous bonds that result from thc pure system of
Christianity, as established in this kingdom? No, my
Lords. he never did; the securities he brought tor
ward, and the correspondence published between
him and that King, whose memory | shall revere as
long as ] exist, prove the contrary. Look, my Lords,
at the securities he then proposed. He knew what
was going on at the time, and the securities he then
proposed, were securities against the radical doc
irines ofthut day.-(lIear, hcar.) Give Inc leave,
my Lords, TO tell your Lordships, that ! have had a
great deal to do with what has been going on in tins
country in that respect, and II your Lordships suppose
the existence OF the Aristocrncy of the country has
nothing to do with what rs now going on, your Lord
ships never labored under a greater error. Ny Lords,
having said thus much, let me state tC Won that con-
~sIstency in error is, in my opinion. one of he greatest
faults that can be objected To in u statesman. Bat
what is the effect Of that That n man is bound To
state on every occasion what he considers the line OF
duty he ought 10 adopt. J have, Iay Lords, on every
occasion stated what was my duty. | never have
been able to change my opinion, and ] do declare now,
as hope for mercy hereafter, that ] firmly believe
this measure 10 be more dangerous to the interests OF
my country than my that has ever yet been brought
forward. Can it possibly BE-, nay Lords, that ] can
represent TO my own mind that ] am standing IN Il
situation in which ! should not feel n most anxious
wish to entertain a different feeling ] AN speaking
in the presence of the Noble Duke, who will do me
the Justice o~fsayiug, except with respect tn this mca-
sure, he has not found inc very infcxiblr to any
thing he has proposed. | think, my Lords, I may
say with respect to The Right Honorable Secretary
IN the House, who Is said TO be tho leader there.
there never was "A man to whSsc feelings ! was more
attached, and whose conduct ] more rcvercd. And,
my Lords, | must say, that the difference of epln