Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-11

/ The House OF Delegates.
WEDNESDAY. De. ..
The Convention called To ORDER at tic usual
hour
In the absence Of Mr.. Mo>Ror, Mr.. p. P. BAR
BoUR acted "a President.
Mr.. CAMPBELL moved that no report uf he So
eet Committee appointed to obtain suitable accom-
nodttons for The Convention, be- retired back again
To- them. He slated that the Convention could have
the use Of the Old Baptist Church.
Mr.. DoDpHIncE move 10 lay the resolution on
tho table
Some conversation ensued, and the motion to l1y
the resolution OIL the tahc, Wa carried in the ulr-
mItive ayes a. no IS 30.
On the motion OF Mr.. BRoDNAX, vote of thanks
I was unanimously passed TO The Pato.. Trustees &c
of the FIRST Presby; Church, for the kindncs.
tiley manifested IN af1rdmg to tho Convention the use
of that building.
The House then resolved It~eif INTO n Committee
of the Whole, Mr.. GIRDoN ID the CGa!r
The first ella se of the proposition offered by Mr..
Up>hur ing under sldcratlJn,
Mr.. ScoTT Withdrew the amendment he had offer
cd, and proposed to strike the whole Of the rcso-
luton, and insert III leu thereof The iolowing
AN Executive Council cou,is lur of three MEM
bcrs, shall b. chosen by OF Doth Houses of
Assembly, to remain IN o.icc for three Yeas. They
shall annually choose out 0! their own members a
PRESIDENT, Who M case otC ,ath, inability
say absence of The Governor from the government
shall aci GovCrnO-. Their prCe .dinrs shall be
entered Of record and signed by the members, pre-
$ NJ, any part whereof! any member may enter his
dssenll and laid before the General Assembly when
called Tor by them This Council may appoint their
own {. r., who shall have salary settled by law,
and takr oath of secrecy III such matters
Us he shall be directed by the Board to conceal. At
the EN- OF year at or their appointment one
councillor. TO be designated by lo, shall 90 out of
Office aud the vacancy shall be supplied BIZ u new
election y, tue end OF the SECOND year another cOun-
cl or, 10 b designated in Ike manner. Ella 20 out
OF oitc", ami tue vacancy be sIppeI by new cleo
tion aud this rotation shall be continued in due order
annually The Executive Council shall stand in tie
same relation TO the Governor the Privv Council
or Council Of Stat, under the existing Constitution
except that 1t shall advise merely, ond contro
him
MIR. UrsHoR said he would vote against tho amend
mont. Ii Was apparent that according 10 the
prov sion Of The amendment, the Governor may ask
the advice OF tn CouncilU MT and when he receives
1t, he may follow 1t or The Council will then
only de- tu!s Eood--:U keep record OF the occasions
when tIe Governor may follow the aGvi.c of Council
or not. We are then paying three men to do that
winch Is OF no use TO lie Statc-mereiy as spies on
the Governor. There - nO responsibility either On
Important cases, the Governor will not consult tie
Council butt az cases oi difficulty, If he suppose the
Council viii differ from HIM, lie will not consult
them.
/ hir LE,GI said he had taken occasion state bis
objections 20 the change proposed and he would not
/ therefore inlet on the Committee Il repettiun ol
them. lie should make no remarks to persuade GEN
tie would address himself those who wish to retain
sonnet ny not to demosh ali He said the iorIna-
ton OF al Executive Government the most diIii-
cult problem TO be imagined Our Executive was
dIherenJ from that which naS charge Of the foreign
/ relations OF a Country. tir LEiGH went INTO COM
parlsOn of the EXnrnt,yo Of Virginia, and OF The u
nted States, and stated the considerations which in-
! ilueuced the trainers of me former. The Executive
of Virginia was merely the executor Of the laws
He referred the argument used bv thc gentleman
'r.ft,r lsl fnaf E,.,.
should look 70 STATE OF hnns whouwe may hc at war
with our neghbnriug salesor foreign NY; ~ sand
i We are TO uUS to such a state ct things. would
set ourselves 10 perform work which human wisdom
cannot achieve.
Nnru that event shall occur. aud wc are in po-
hicnl being, the cXgences OF the times viii provide
for them. Sure man is man, the sword will have
no small influence m settling the form OF government
at tat Time, whether II viii be- military d'spolism.
monarchy. ur any otl"r torn. Uufil that TIM, we
shall enjoy the hc efts Of the common law, trial bv
Jlry. &C lie looked IN inrmug government to the
prCsunt times. and net To- circumstances which man
cannot provldcfr. Nothing was more incompatible
with the power Of man than 10 provide for such a
sin'C ut 'hlngs0s dissolution ut the Union What
knd of Executive II then necessary for us' That Is
10" question we have to consider. All we want Is an
/ Executive to sut our present circumstances. The
prospective operation of any roiiica, principle can
NJi be- looked upon with cCruiuy When We have
It government dat answers orr present purposes he
Their we sho ID change u for uno'h her.
Mr. bGiGu then stated hat the present Executive
answered al the purposes of Virginia, and hc asked
what was propo ed5 10 abolish It altogether, not TO
rc-mudd IL. lie stated the dilcront views of gcu-
tcmcI 10 the organization Of the Executive COun-
Gil. Some preferred an ordinary Councll-0ud some
% controlling Council. II was proposed 10 make the
Governor independent. What was the object of IT,
lie referred To ;hC distinction made in tho dlhcr
ont Constitutions olho states between tho Executive,
Judicial and Legislative departments. II was ne
yer intended they should be dIsjiact, only IN this
respect, tnlt The power of two Of them, should MOI;
BE- exercised by ono, 40 the same tine. This max
i'm OF MontcsGucu is Illustrated distinctly, that he
thought it would never be questioned again after the
appearance Of that paper IN the FedcralIst which
contained it. To what end therefore was it propo-
scd Co mako him moro independents He repeated
YOU cannot iufusc into the Executive. such power
as proposed, without introducing spice of monar-
chy. He did not the term IN offensive sense,
but in it's given English sense.
IT he was subject Of England, lac would support
the present monarchy Of England, because without
Il, she could not defend herself against France