Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-03
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Icstion, OF the most important branches OF
our gnv:r:ifi':, He stuffed that he had submitted
u proposition on, this .uhacs. lie was enc of tho
]iccuve i,Crmit,cr mad submitted Il proposition
ash substitute for l.ls report. Gentlemen had gone
;i'o o'h:r crnsdrr@i;onS, which il is difficult to keep
at ~ this discussion Tho proposition which hn
EeuInied vas TO rctAr in the Constitution the pre-
srt Iorn 10 ap?1ict = pryy cnunc of four members.
" @ are told uat one object for which We are sent,
.herc, Is ~ abolish the EXecu've Counril He
&NcW tii1t his district had done nothing OF the kind
10 ADMITTED that hc was performing odious duty
'indeiending the * :cntive Council. He said That
iae EXecnfFc Council onght to be constructed on
EepuS lean prcins; and referred he power riy-
On to the iing OF Great Britain, the abuse of Which
led to the Separation ni this Country from Great Br-
tF'n. We are nov o0ll':i depart ira,a the Re-
publican prj--.rrS w which This Dccar;lneDt wac
fe,.n.lal, and make splendid Executive We are
tI NJ attchi1 Tx ,eutrc lie lid not wish 10 adon
ta phrase, but lie would say that he did not desire
>" naVe any p'wcr given to an Executive beyond that
%Aich Is necessary TO enable him TO carry the laws
snto rX ,cu.iOn. If cnncent rate ali power and
,fltronao IL u hands % one man, we create pct
- monarchy. Onr ancestors constructed tue depart
'nen 50 as to guard against that danger. They
rounded he Executive w'itha Council. If you make
aCouncii dependant % the Executive, you destroy
all the effect of check The Council must be Com
stutional, so rs to be efficient check. Tho Coup
GU which now exists he contcndcd did not esscnthc
responsibility OF the Governor. On the contrary
the Council and the Governor are equally response
be. Each Councillor signs his name to the ndv..e
which he gives TO the Governor and j. of course d.
roctly responsible for that advice Ne directed the
attention Of the COMMITTEES 20 view York and Penn
syivania TO see the effect of clothing tie Executive
With ton much power The States where this power
Is vested IN the Executive annually thrown into
omission The whole of the people OF ,hc Safe of New
aoIk, were corrupted i'll consequence of the great
patronage - the Governor hhd when Governor
wus Gcctci, his ii-st act tn every one out
OF office. We have made eli Executive who is to ex-
ccute the laws, aD! it is possible, that frequently
numbers o! the people do not know vino the Cover
nor Is unless Inc IS very distinguished man
from .SriS that
tnenf was IN violation of the principles which keeps
the several departments distinct lie stated that
Was almost impossible, so to organize departments,
Is entirely To keep ono from running in some de-
gree INTO another. But gentlemen now propose to
transfer the power of advising TO the Senate and in
lat case do they not run into The error, which
they coEdcrO3, By connecting the different branches
together? lie considered that the people do now IN
ciec. elect tic Executives a!.d that they elect hfl
III the best manner, through their representatives.
lfyou cntrmst tho election directly TO the people how
arc they 10 know the characters of the various ind-
TiitlaIs who may be pat up candidates. The I.c-
giSiature well informed, as to the characters Of
gentlemen & therefore. better qualified decide
Inc VaiEi0ic purpose OF having council, IS 10
rs n check III tho Gaverilor. They his acts, and
understand the springs which these in motion
il you entrust power to man, for him to exercise
IN the dark and without the possibility Of determn-
ing his motives, You give facilities and temptations to
10 wrung. Bnt give him constitutional advisers,
who will watch and guide HIM. and he will be proven
ted from any abnse OF his power. He considered
that our HXecuirc constituted, as to prevent
the abuse OF pwcr.
He did not believe with the gentleman from
Brooke that thc Governor had power. On the
contrary, le considered that the Executive had all
the po" which is necessary. In Executive ofthe
D. States. here reasons for giving him
power, than 10 State Executive, although he
thought the powers and patronage ofthc U. S Exec
utive far Too great and Reconnaissance of danger
TO the country. But here managing do
Hesic concerns, ard only object is, to have such
Executive, as will ai'hiuly, md efficiently, adj
!, I4,,Dr sh.,(
not give casting vote. He maintained that when
the Council is equally divided the Governor cannot
DICT, because he has legal advice to guide him.
The gentleman from Brooke, in referring
cienily testified, that thcle great
abuse On which he could put his finger.
although the gentleman had considered that impeaCh
incn could not LC held in terror, he should have
Yccolcced that disqualification may result from i'm
parchment.
The gentleman had told that new duties had
dcvolved on The Governor; and had named the Lit
ierary Fund, s. the Internal Improvement Fund. On
this account, he wished council 10 be appointed.
The right Of pardon he consider cd great power.
There is DO man however elevated who may not In
moment of temptation, render irnselfHmenah.e to
she criminal iaw: and he hoped no would agree
that The lives ofile citizens should b. placed at the
power Of any single For this single reason, he
would desire 10 retain the council Of State. In re-
jaiion to militia officers, the Council have the ap-
T,7n,Incnt They hive the appointment of the SneT
us. and Magistrates, among the most valuable and
most important appointments in the state. How
f.oaldthc Governor know the characters of all APP
qliaauts2 With Council around hiin he is enabled
10 pic: UP all the necessary information the sub
iect Tho Council are bound to inspc the Trea-
slIrers Office, the Banks, sc. Can any single
individual 20 through these various duties? lie sta
tod that he ssas member ofthc Committee Of the
Executive; and that the only questions which
they could agree was that there should be Govern
or and Lieutenant Governor. Upon all the qucs
tions they ere closely decided. that il fire.
qucnuy only by tire vote Of the Chairman that ques
tons could be settled.
The idea thrown ont in some Of the discussions il
that the Governor should be assmilatcd to tic Exec
ntiyc Of the U. S. III being allowed to call on tins
heads Of departments for advice and council lie
did not think this wuJld IL o saiut1ry change. liz
thought the persons who ii TO be at the head o
iho different departments, might not be very wei