Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-11-20
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,,i;,, enc wnitr population II. m IL. TO
wile poPnatinn IN the West N urupo.,ior 10. ,Lnt
OF the East was $50 70 J53 ,housaud ,,acs mt:
,ne whole population To be cog thousand pulii-,,
that ratio IN round n-mbcss we havc Va, 90, -
% Z" 81. He made estimate 81 tho taxat' -.
movable property-he extended the ur,n:.,; see
down ON en- ch subject, To the margin and sjl;co r,
,e sums 81 men, total result was given s,0)7d,
wh'ch was much greater proportion. H. vou'j
FACE that paper the table Tor the examination at
me Co:n'nitee, and he challenged any gentleman 10
Prove Its maccuIacy
He could not snv WI thcr IN ~, ,,,.,c,, al . 49,,
on the lsnd-books resided in tie West or not; nor
could he tel where they resided alth,ioL b ,ra,ei
% IucI as and perhaps ten times more. through
inc state, than the gentleman frcin Spottsyvnna
But n" was well that there were ,nnnv gcntIn
men who lived in the West and owned lands situated
III other parts of the State. Takinp this estimate
ara ceaucng the tbirty-nn thousand from the pinc
V-two thousand would have the other proportinr
OF NIFTY three thousand. lie would now leave these
sra efnehts on he table, ai desired the investigation
OF gen emen into them. eT
Mr. FrrzHUGH. In this discussion the st,entio,
VI the COMMITTEE had been withdrawn from the Inc
s,on maze oy the gentleman rom Fauqurr (Alr.
ocottf III ne was satisfied that tile of tha, uc
t"man wee correct, md at the course ne fscopt
mended would produce Cancellation or expedition in
our business, he would he willing to co-orerata
with him. But he feared the only effect of il Womb
De TO procrastnate the qUeS on an,: God knows when
we would come to a conclusion We had hlreafg
0en SIX weeks IN session; three of which have been
consumed IN the discussion OF the very question which
II !. now proposed 10 pass over !"
Tie CHAIR here minated that the gentleman must
coniae himself to the question.
Mr. +. presumed 1t was in order TO preface tho mn,
ton he intended to submit with few exp.anaior,,
rtarkS he proceeded say that the proposition Cf
the gentleman from Fauqui+r would not expedite Tho
idbors of the Committee. If we are TO leave this
question unsettled. would be mpo sible 10 conilc
any other in The Legislative report, which involved
the same principle lie looked to this as q qucsticl.
OF power, Tor unfortunately II appeared to be and
while this is unsettled every other debate must ha
rc'eren to tins question. He took IT as obvious
that no concessions would now be made Suppose
is ;s
sense OF the House taken it. aud that il was s.i.
tied we could then refer the whole TO 4 select con-
nj Tee to report and thus BY Inparinr opinlops We
would b. m're apt 10 come 10 harmonious resi- -
H. would move, therefore, thnt the Committee rise
and report progress, and he would afterwards move "a
the House that the Committee of the Whole he ~.
Charged from the further consideration Of his o, <
ton, md tna' tn: report b. referred TO Slec, Gem
mtiec. Let that Committee be composed of n -
members Nio are known 10 be uncomnitteG. and 10
whom the Convention have the greatest confidence
aud who, from their weight and experience would
be likely 20 report such proposition Of c. nprom 50,
as would not be ~ the spirit Of party but the objecr
OF which would be 10 bring harmony into or conn
ellis. By this means the difficulty we have nov, n,
encounter IN fixing upon ground OF com pronlis.
would be surmounted. He moved that the Cou,ryi.-
tee rise and report progress.
Mr. LE.Ga asked If II was IN order 20 discuss tn,
question? ,'r
The CHsrR replied in the affirmative
conversation here took place between Mr. III tctr
ana dr. fITzHCGH when the latter gentleman said
ms design was that the committee should be dsch.-
ged from all the subject.
Mr.. LEIGH: Then the motion of the oentieinar,
was, that the Committee should rise report proqres.
and ask To he discharged from the consjdcrnton ~
all the subjects referred to it, and that all be referred
to select Committee Was he 10 understand tho
gen'lcnaD moving TO DISCHARGE the Coiumitns
from az the subjects referred to IL
Mr.. /, Yes, all.
Mr.. LEIGH: From the consideration of tho re,r,,s
ofthe Legislative Committee and of tho T. ~,,,s
Committee. and Of all the propositions s,,hni,taJ
respecting the judicial department, The Commit
zee OF he whole was TO be discharged from the con-
siieTation OF each and every other subject rs well a.
OF the Legislative seport. Was the COMMITTEES no
'sKt"' prepared To adopt proposition which, would
re III Amount declaration, that every other subject
except the basis Of presentations was unwortbv ~
discussion IN the Committee? Was the question OF
the qualification of the right Of sufTrare-of rho mode
OF eIectng the Governor-of the distribution of the
power OF aPp"lntment-of the depository IN which
that power should be paced--were al the questions
he would ask, unworthy of discusssion in a Conn
tee OF the w hoe' was the question US to a he Tut-
cial dePartmcnt--whether a spunpe shall he orniid
to the present Judges to their terms of ofTre
and now II shall be Regulated heresCfer-vnre a..
these unworthy OF free discussion How else could
they bp considered than in a Committee of he
Whole? And what the purpose Of resol,ing
the House into conlautieg Of the whole but TO ma.
ture SUBJECTS and yet It proposed MS an amend
nrnt 10 this, TO refer those subjects Il select chr,
mit'ee. For what end tiev 10 be yeferr,i t,,.
select committed There were a. glett many r,u.
temcn IN this body, in whom he could reposc cont
dcnce on almost every subject but be fnyht 10 ,c-
ouscd ct arrogance %h,s. fe said thar th,rr cos ,
o man inside or outside of this lt---s a, ,vi,, a. ,
thoritv he would rest for a moment " I'm ,o--,c, g.
this question. There no man ia thi hos,
whose opinions, and arguments he would uotlisfc,
to with lhs utmost respect and attention, anu world
weigh with much candor and truuknrss ne
could. But while he would lear and weigh all q "
arguments Of every gentleman 10 the Commit. -c .s
,,3B say without HESITATION. that there wac one
authority or t3Hsc, no, No IN he world, on Woo
mean t. confne this to&iHt" dep'nd tie d,o 20.
place implicit confidence on this ID. he would go,
any man, any set efmen Whom we cpue o1t.ti
this select committeeman Of the litfi' committees
to when the whole is referred what .iuaif1n -fu.
I we be in2 The whole sui oct viii De- again open
10 discussion as now. F,r has part he would
soon It was app irted BY The President chosen by
ballot. Every subject could pe di cusssd in The
/ House, II the House was preferred to Co,h'htrue
Of the whole; but only N 3 committee Of the whole
can there be that fun aud free discussion TO which
the subject Is entitled. The wh e ia C ion pf