Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-08

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the whole OF the Eastern members would vote for it
also
He stated that the gentleman from Frederick had
not taken into his view the Senate.
MIR. COOKE saldthc gentleman had not in the Senate
adhered to his own principle. Had he adhered to
his principle, the Senate would have been as much
ioosers as the House of Delegates.
Mr. UpsIUR then explained his plan i'll reference to
the Senate IN order to explain his views and to cor
rect the impression that it would operate uniusty-
He had no other view, 10 not providing for future re-
appointments, because the expense in some parts
OF the country would not justify the measure But
there should be no difficulty in this point and he
would now move to amend his own proposition BY
striking out the words shave power to-"
lie assured the West that he that the prn-
clple should operate for their benefit. He wished 10
make the compromise in good faith for all times. The
difficulty being removed, it for gentlemen to de-
termne whether this compromise shall be accepted or
not He reiterated that the only compromise must
be L surrender on both sides; aud he had made his
proposition on this principle. He had no con-
corning the details: he was indifferent as to the man
ncr Ill which they arranged. Should the East
on his principle, obtain the majority, it is right that
they should have 1t, because they would be entitled
To 1T As the West shall be entitled to if the
| West will obtain the transfer of the power lie
stated that there was small majority in the East
taking the geographical line it i small majority
perhaps none at all taking the Legislation of the conn.
try. The 81 may be so divided, as to throw the ma
Jory on the other side. In the Senate the MAORI
~ Is very SMALL and he would savifthe country unde,
the Blue Ridge Should remain as it is the Fast Womb
nave no majority But let which side viii have the
iidJorty Is That to Interfere to prevent The, adoptior
Just and fair prMcple He did not suffer the con
sderatlon whether MS county should have rc,rosnn
tative to cross his mind ali. The Houses NAV civ,
All the representation to Accomac if they please LIE
looked to principles and to the fair and iust
OF them upon the whole State SO far as the Wes
considered the scheme adverse to their interests h
would permit them to run their pen through any
part oft -
J H. l.I
thought that he should arain address This hoI
on the subject of the basis which is now before: no
dld lie see that the ground had been essentially va
fied; Inc gentleman from Chesterfield had report
cd tnat the East would not submit to any scheme scI
as the west desired, because it would be an inoer
anle insupportah.e tyranny; and according to til,
gentleman from Chesterfield, it is jacobins,n.s
4 MIR. RANDOLPH. It's.
Il Mr.. DoDDRIDGE said that the rnntlo,na, ca, ,,o,
this ground their flag was planted; that the Iyest a
ever trying to establish JIcobnical government
There could be nothing offensive in this more tba,
III what lie ana others had sad that the objects O
the East are olrga,cslia and arstocratica lie I'm,
planted his flag, and further he would not oo hut L
did not say he would not submit. On the controrI,
he would submit to the constitutional government !
The gentleman from Northampton had said the Yves
had the power to establish he white basis N III,
House OF Delegates and the East had the pouyer ~
| establish the federal numbers in the Senate. Each
therefore, had the power prevent the establishment
OF the opposite basis IN the other branch He wish
nc tpf no Ia.
Sis III the lower House. foI he had hea rd that so -
the forty nine had only voted for it with view f.
give u different basis to the different Housos "
then viewed the relative proportions of the white Don
ulatlon, East and West OF the Blue RIDGE He boI,
himself possessed of no power from his constitron
as to agree "a the basis now asked. We had hoo,
oid OF terrDie consequences which Wond result from
Ine rising OF TINS Convention without doing any thine
ne uid not believe that the consequences conld he
worse than II we accept this compromise mr. tb.n :
the other side should make government contrary r.
The wishes OF the people The second alternative vii
result IN different way from tho third W. - ~
by taking the second aternatiya n, ,,i,ooJ t'
own choice,undera government which we dieannro,,
suppose we come to no decision and return 49, a
Dy hone' d are still under government which we 4,
not approve, less hostile would be orr fcal;no,s tl
state OF things than to the other ITc wa o 5,ia
10 FAVOR the alternative which would leave ns to nv
nome Without DONG any thing, than to go home affeI
giving our own assent to a proposition of misrule
such as we have hitherto condemned
Looking to the increase of population in tho W..
although we cannot take the basis of the Aud;,o,
staicghN lol our calculations, may come to some
thing like correct results, That we have M mnro
certain data to go upon is owing to the Genoroi
sembly and not 10 ourselves In SAVING ,bot -
not be sustained by his constituents in r;v;r ~
federal numbers to the Senate he did no, l,nn ,t Lne
ne would be sustained by all his colleagues He could
not promise that his constituents would Co.,. Couiu
clause, although he should advise tbor - su' a
we take the white basis for the House of Delcgoto,
ana the Iederal numbers IN the Senate the neonlo
may be Inducedto accept the Constitution
Mr. RANDOLPH said 1t was with equally unfcion-
ed satisfaction and surprise that he saw the penfio
man who had taken his seat, was at length 50
tar reconced to the old constitution, against ,yh
ne had waged such unfegned war until this dav.~,
ne eit equa surprise and satisfaction, that the
teman had found out that we could live banniIys M
der this good old constitution. The gentleman. AZ
ter having discovered in it all that was bad and OBJ
ous had looked at II through his solar microscope in
rerted ms glass and discovered that it was such as
he might live with and live under. But he said that
| 1t should not be by vote of his that n svsinno
should be imposed on the constituents of the cen.
tlemon against their consent He thanked the zen.
tleman for his conciiiating manner durinr Tho do
bate. He would now say, that he, if the other side
should succeed in putting him the white basis in
the House of Delegates, he would yield to him Tho
other branch. He wUs for no Maniken princ;nlo -
good and evil spirit; the evil would be sure to
yai lie could therefore tell the gentleman hat
II the West vanquisbed in the House of DeIerates
i lac you'd give them his vote for the white bas; =;
the Senate. lie would rather do 60 tt 'i9 in