Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1829-12-25

cal religious purpose shall be granted hav
validity in this Commonwealth"
II The Resolution gave rise desate almost the coun
terpart Of that which took place in Committee, and which
has been already reported The Resolution sup
ported by the mover, the ground that religious in
corporations tended TO build up religious establishments
and had produced those establishments in miniature
that religion needed no external aid, and inure,
by the alliance of wealth, SC. &c.
| Ii was opposed by Mr.. Marshall Mr.. Naylor, Mr.
Nicholas, Mr. Brodnax and Mr. Sanard ,as going grea
deal too far i'm the extent Of its TERMS deprving
igous societies Of the of securely holding their
own property as making needless and unjust distinc
ton between them and other association being utter
ly needless from the light of the age, and the utter
averseness of every American Legislature do any
tending to build up religious establishments confer
elusive privileges on religious secs, SC.
Mr. NICHOLAS observed, that he agreed to a consi-
derable extent, with the gentleman from Brooke (Mr.
Campbe) in his views this subject, hut he thought
his resolution went farther than he could go with
htm. He said. that he had an unfegned rspec,
Tor religion, though he feared he did not pos
sess as much Of il he ought. He agreed with the
gentleman from Hardy, (Mr. Nayloi) that religion
was founded .on virtue, and that both combined
were essential to the prosperity Of a naon-Govern-
another and the true way OF managing secs as TO let
them alone, so far as the Government was concerned.
Each ought TO be protected in the undisurbed
else OF their religion.
| He would, il member of the Legislature, he
willing TO incorporate societies, so as TO enable
them to hold, and protect their property in their
/,
but waud not consent to giaut such interpretations Ter
holding property generally. He thought there were
strong objections to such comprehensive power. At
present discretion vested in the Legislature this
subject, and they had shewn disposition abuse it,
tie was disposed, therefore, 10 leave the subject il
was placed by the present Constitution.
Mr. BRoDNAx was induced to move by way of amend
ment what he had offered in Committee, in relation
to the incorporation of Theological Scminares with
Proviso for re-modeng revokng their charters at
pleasure. His amendment was follows:
hn
by law the trustees directors of any Theological Sc
mnary, or other religious society," body of united
Tor charitable purposes the advancement Of pety and
learning, protect them in the endowment of their
property and mmunes, in such cases, and such
regulations as the Legislature may deem expedient and
proper But the Legislature of this State during all i-
turs tme shall possess the power, TO alter, remodel
enirely repeal such charters act of incorporation,
whenever they shall deem il expedent.'
The debate was terminated by motion of Mr.. Stan
ard, that the Resolution, together with the amendment
be indefinitely postponed.
This motion carried, by Yeas and Nays, as
follows:
AYES-Messrs Barbour, (Pres) Jones, Leigh of C.
Taylor Of Cheste rfed, Giles Dromgooe. Alexander
Marshall, Nicholas Anderson, Coffnan Harri-on Bald
win johnson, Moore, B-rne, Smith Miller, Mason OF
southampton, Trezvaat Claiborne, Urquhart, Randolph,
Leigh OF H.. Logan. Venable, Sanard, Holiday, Mer.
GER Fitzhugh. Henderson, Osborne, Powell, Griggs,
Mason OF Frederick, Naylor, Donaldson. George, Nc
MILAN Campbell OF W., Bvars Roane, Taylor OF Caro-
line, Morris, Garnett. Coyd, Chapman, Mathews,
pepper, Scott, Green Loya Prens, Grigsby,
Campbell OF Bedford Clayton, Saunders anch Townes
CabeI Martin, Stuart, Pleasants Thompson, Massie,
Bates, NeaIc, Rose. CoaIter Jovnes BayIv Per-
III.
NoES-Messrs. Brodnax. Goode, Tyler, CIopton
Williamson, Mccoy. Baxter, Madison, Cooke, Boyd,
Pendleton. See, Doddridge, Morgan, Campbell OF
Brooke, Wilson. hiacrae, Gordon, Upshur-19.
The House then proceeded to the consideration of the
Rep ort Of the
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
mart al tl,e frat hayip ,.a al
follows, viz:
Z" To be elected once in every three years at the
time OF the general annual election by the persons
qualified for the most nun erous branch of the
General Assembly:
Mr. MERCER moved TO amend il, by striking
hrerom the words General Assembly," and inserting
in lieu thereof, the words, qualified voters for the
most numerous branch of the State Legislature"
MIR STUART moved 10 lay the resolution and amend
ment upon the table.
He said he had come to the Convention determined
10 give the election of Governor TO the Legislature:
but the question OF future spportionmen of represen-
aion had bearing on his final determination; il no
plan for future apporionment was to be permitted,
then he should go for giving the election of Governor
directly TO the people.
The question of laying the resolution on the table
was taken, and decided in the negatives Yeas Al
Navs4s
The question was then taken on the amendment oil
Mr.. Mercer, and decided in the affirmative by yeas and
nays as follows
AYES-Messrs. Clopton, Anderson, CoTman. Har.
rison, williamson Baldwin, M'Coy, Moore. Berne
Smith, Miller. Baxter, Mad,on, Mercer, Fiizhugh
Henderson, Osborne, Cooke, Powell, Griggs Mason
F. NayIor, Donaldson, Boyd, Pendeton, George, NJ.
MILAN Campbell Of Washington, Byars, CIoyd, Chan
man. Mathews, oglesby, Duncan. Lsid'ey, Summers
See, Doddridge, Morgan, Campbell OF Brooke Wilson
Clayton, Saunders, CabelI, Martin, Stuart Gordon
Thompson, Bayly, Upshur-50
NOES-Messrs. p. p Barbour, (Preien, Jones
Leigh and Taylor Of Chesterfield, Giles, Brodnax
Dromgoole Alex ander, Goods, Marshall, Tyler, Nirh
olas, Johnson, Mason Of s. Trezvani, Claiborne Ur
quhart, Randolph, Leigh of Halifax, Logan, Vensbie
S'anard, Holiday, Roane, Taylor Of Caroline, Morris
Garnet, Barbonr Of Cupepef, Scott, Macrae Green
Tazewell, Loyal, PreDtis Grigsby. Campbell OF Bed
ford Branch, Townes, Peasants, Mas.ie Bates NeaIe
Rose. Coalter, Joynes, Perrin.-46.
| The question then recurring on the amendment o
the Committee as amended on motion Of Mr. MER
GER,
| Mr.. DoDDRIDGE demanded the yeas and nays, an,
they were taken accordingly as follows:
| AYES-Mes'rs Clopton, Anderson, Cofman. Har
rison, Williamson, Baldwin, Mccoy Moore, Beirne
Smith, Miller. Baxter, Madison, Mercer. Fiizbugh
Henderson, Osborne, Cooke Powell, Griggs, Mason o
F., Naylor, Donald.on, Bovd, Pendleton, George NJ
ihews, oglesby, Duncan, Laidley, Summers, See
Doddridge, Morgan, Campbell Of Brooke. Wilson
| Clayton, Saunders, Cabe Martin, Stuart, Gordon
Thompson, BAyIy, Up'hur-5O,
| NOES.-Messrs. Barbour presidenO Jones, Leigh
aud Taylor Of c.. Giles, Brodnar, Drorngooie, Alex
auder, Goode, Mar'hall, Tyler, Nicholas, johnson
Mason Of Southampton, Trnzvant, Claiborne. Ufqu
sianard, Holiday, Roane, Taylor Of Caroline, Morris
Garnefi, Barbour Of c.. Scott, Mscrae, Green. Tszs
well, JovalI, Pfeniis, Gdgsby, Campbell Of Bedford
Branch Townes, Pleasants Massie, Bates Nesle, Rose
Coater, toynes, Perrin--46
The question, finally, recurring on the resolution