Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-06-27
HOUSE or coMMoNs-May Is.

Il L.
Mr. Brougham put il To the Rt. Hon. Gentleman
opposite, Air. Peel) whether it would not be better
that the debate, which adjourned on Friday NIGHT
should be taken up now.
Mr.. Sugdon inquired Of the hon. member for Aber.
deeii, whom he saw in the house--and he woud hace
asked the hon. bart, the member for Westminster
he had been present, what the oath was which was
taken by the member for Clare before he presented
himself IN that house,
Mr.. Hume.-Perhaps the hon. member will hes,
OBTAIN the information he desires, by obtaining the
ccItihcate from the clerk. (liear, hcar.)
| Mr: Sugdon--Thc hon. member Is perfectly aware
mat inc certificate VIII not give tho information
WISH. The certificate merely states, that "Danicl
Conneli has taken the oa,hs;" without at all sta.
ting what oaths were taken. Tho statement in the
certificate is, that Mr.. OConne has taken tho oathe
in the plural number; but am informed that he only
took one OATH '
MIR. Hume can only say, in answer to the hon.
member, that Mr.. Cornell took two oaths UIear.
The order of the day being then moved, that the
adjourned debate be resumed
Inc Speaker put the question, THAT Mr. O'Con.
nell DC called back. and heard at the table"
Mr.. Sugdon said he was sorry 10 oL,r,lo IN ,bo
attention Of the house, but lac must perscverc iborh
ne ana with no Ill intention, in pressing the question
winch he had Just asked unless il should be the sense
OF the house that the question ought no, To- be am
swored' lie Could assure the House that he asked
tue question from no idle motive. In his opinion il
was OF most material use To know before ncno into
Inc discussion which would shortly come ON. win,
was the oath which was taken by the member for
Clare, lie Mr.. Sugdon) had taken every Mains N
,oil'u,'oh on the subject, but he yet utter
without any lformation and without any means of
information, and when he applied, with all possible
courtesy, to the hon. member for Aberdeen ON the
SUBJECT Tie hon. member declined to answer the
Iu.s.'oh IN inc terms and manner which the house
just heard. (Hcar, hear.)
MIR. G. w. Wynn thought il stranoc tbo, onv bo,
'hemoer Should insist upon another hon member nm
S"erihg a question. lie knew of no way of forcing
member 10 answer question, unless by motion of
the mousse to that effect. (liear, hear.
an nom member stated, that if his eafs had mn,
nisied him. the hon. member for Westminster said.
on former evening, that the new oath was taken nv
Mr. OConnell. "'" y
Mr. Secretary Peel addressed the House at consid
ctoe length arguing against the right of Mr. O Con
nell 10 be heard at tho table, and IN conclusion coil
that ho should propose, in order to bring 70 ss
SUBJECT OF Mr.. OConnell's claim "that the mcmber
r Ciare be heard at the BAR with reference 10 his
claim to SIT and vote in the House of Commons with
out taking The oath Of supremacy"
MIR. &. w. Wynn said. his conviction WAC s,on Tho
hrst that the honorable member should nc heard. and
ne did not think it was of any consequences wbe,bor
at the bar or the table,
Mr.. Brougham was in favor ofhavinp Mr.. O.Cm.
nel eara at inc table; but on the ground Of exped
ency would acquiesce in the amendment.
There were at this time at least 500 mernher. in
the House. '''"o''S u"
The question "thut Mr.. o Council be hea Mt the
ool ny niinsei ms counsel, his agents." was then
pun, and carried IN the affirmative.
Dir. Brougham thought, that the sooner the House
proceeded TO business the better with the perfect un
dersandlng that the House will not only commence
but continue and finish the discussion tonight. Hear
hear.) So \-'''''
Mr. O'Connell was then called in, and.
The Speaker informed him of the decision ,ho
House had come TO. O' ''
Mr. OConnell then proceeded to address, tho
iouse; lie SAID he Claimed his right to sit and vote
Tue iIouse as the representative of the county of
Iiare' without taking the oath of supren,acv To
was ready to take the oath of allegance provdod b
Ie recent statue entitled san Act Tor the relief NJ
MS NiaJestys Roman Catholic subjects" He ,yos
10 nave that oath administered and of course
must be prepared to verify his qualification in min,
properly; ana whether the house should be ofopin
ol that nc ought TO be permitted to take the new
oath or not, he respectfully required to be allowed
to take the qualification oath. IF he was allowed D,
take tat oath, be 1t then MS own hazard to Sit in
.le mousse Ills rlgut to SIT and vote in that house
was III It's nature perfectly plain. He had been re-
turned duly elected by the proper officer and TINT re
turn mad been confirmed by the unanimous decision of
committee ofthe house. He therefore had ne GOOD
rght TO SIT and vote i'll the house, ACCORDING TO the
principle Of the constitution MS any of tho rCbt non
or non. gentlemen by whom he was surrounded
4 ne VOICE the people had sent him there He was
the representative of the people. The question ms
u aueclch ms right TO sit and vote in the hnuse
couid not arise mt common law, hut only on statute
a
representative ofthe people was bound before bc ON.
tered on tue execution of his duty to his constit
ents' 70 take oaths OF any dcscription.-He was cor
Iec, III saying that up TO the reign of Elizabeth no
oaths were required. The 3Oth Of Charles II. first
required oathS to De taken in the house itself That
suSute required the oath OF allegiance to be taken.
ana no man could be ready TO take tho oath &c
aHegiance than ne was. The statute also renlireJ
lhe oath OF supremacy to be TAKEN together with tho
,ho a,a. men, Tor the first time, introduced into
inc statute. The oath of supremacy he would M,
.oke' and nc believed here were many in the house.
VINO would not take the then existing oath Of SIN.
pemacy: That statute not only required those oatbs
10 DC taken, but 1t went on and provided remedies
against individuals Who should neglect or refuse n
TAX. ' mem. up to the period of the legislative union
cohtnuGd IN iorce'-that TO say, partly in Eorcc
inc declaration was III force, but be found bv refr
ence to the library belonging to the house that ,bo
oatls were repealed by the ist of William md NJ
section chapter l. That statute altered tho Eary,
OF inc onths ct allegiance and supremacy. nv the
statute OF Charles the oath of Supremacy wac
Affirmative Of the kings supromacv in s11;.;, 49,"