Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-10-10


II there was a proposition to diminish the num-
DER OF the House of Delegates, there would be
IN the same report some similar proposition re-
iauVe 10 the Senate, because they ought To
Dear proportion to each other. III there a
proposition relative to the Executive Council and
this would be combined with another containing
some provision to the auditor treasurer who
ever might Compose the Council of advisement, Their
would thus be an end to the conjecture that 40 ten
persons would agree, on the subject of any amend
tnent. The argument in that would be the
stronger, for sending the subject TO the select com
mttccs-for If ten persons would not agree neither
might five-nor two. And when the Question WINS IN
committee of the whole every individual me,nbcr
might offer amendment: and as there is mn mi.
Ill committee which preciudes member from, sneak
ing as Often rs he pcascs, there mrbt be 10 end r.,
the discusson--we might be found si,,n, h,.,.. nm
md wnct and after al break up m discord without
doing any thing.
As TO the argument ofte gentleman from Norfolk
That The COnvo ntou would have to atlorn from div
To day withsu doing any buslnoss-h. himself mirh,
oo'late TINT effect by moving that the Convention ad
lourn sac de, and that question might be debated.
when the committees created il in order to giye
them ins'ructions. The Ecntlcmnn might move 20
Instruct the committees. There is 10 rule to prevent
such molten. This would bring OH dscussia ard
nus tie Contention might have plenty of r.sness
NE commit also might SIT by night and DAY The
gentleman from Norfolk and hrnsclf bad bern tnre
tuer IN cnHilnittccs sitting night with n view TO for
ward the business IL was then evidently in the DOW
Or oil tue gentleman lias Ii prevent any delay OF
business.
To prevent the evils which the gentleman had sup-
FPsted, MIR. MEWCER SAID he proposed To ofl;r nm
amendment the object OF which was tn increase the
Numbers oil inc comn'ttees 10 twnnty-our mc,nbcrs
ench-nne from each senatorial dStrct-anA ts
would prevent tile formation of those pallnXcs which
the gentleman apprc~'pded There must then be
Thrice members To carry question in comn
ana the majority IN the Convention itself would ne
VERDE large committee thus 10 rmcd would be better
s'ed iJr action than e whole BODY because of THOR
limited numbers, while il would be in of an
the information which every district Cf tie State
could supply.
lie concluded by stating that he felt to be his du
y to say something on this question. He had paus-
cd long after the gentleman from Norfolk had tnken
ms seat, III the hope that some gentleman better
qualified would occupy the attention of the Conycn-
tlon but as no other person lad risen he had consi
ered the task o. replying duty which he onght
lot to avoid.
On motion of Mr. RA~porru, it was ordered that
"hen theNuesto'Sbc tuken, It be taken ~ ayes and
Question Ion Mr. Tuzewclis motion ,yns then mn,
and decided in the negative.
AYES, MessIs JON" W Jones' w Leigh SAINT ray.or,
VIM Is Giles, Vim Broadnnx, Geor.e c Drongooe Maj,
Aiexand.r WIN o C;oode John Marshall John yer rhi
u. Nehohs, John CmPon, John Y. Mason. James Tree
YIN Leigh kicid Logan Richd n venable a,res Mal,sor
tMlP + i'aT!onr John Roane, VIM. T. Taylor James Al
Sane,, john Harbour, John Scott John " ,;re,r l. W
Iazcwel, George Loyal Josenh rren,is tcor.e es r
Iaiafeuo, Abel e Up,hwr-3l '' ''"''
NOES-hessrs William Anderson Samuel Gilman. Jacob
Williamson, BIiscoe g. Baldwin Chapman Johnson W,n
ncCoy' Samuel Med. Moore Andrew Berne VIM sn,ih,
Fleming Is Miller John Baxter Ron Stanard anne. No,re
On F. Mercer VIM Il Fzhmgh RcS fl tien ,ls. ,,'tle,
Cooke Alfred H. Powell Heroine l. Opie Thos risns
Vim NayoI, VIM Donaldson, Elisha Boyd philp G. -nair
ton John George, Andrew Mcmillan Edward Camni,!,
WdL'm Byas. Gordon Coyd, Henley Chapman WIN oacs,
~ Edwin Duncan John Iaidley, Lewis summers. Adam
See Philip Dodl'idge, Chs Moisar Alexander C%nrr
fsenlus NJ WilsoI, John Nacae Enb g. Tavlor Sar,nci
Clayton Calo Nlepnis James Saunders Beni w s ta,rn
Joseph MARTIN, ArcIh stuart, jr James Peasants VIM r
Bates, Thos. X Joynes. Thos NJ. Bayley-54.
'h.aO ftont ,bon Oh.
resolution, when
MR. CHAPMAN JOHNSON said il had been Unlimited
70 the house by some gentleman who had addressed
y that the hrst resolution ought to be amended,
aud II he had correctly understood the drift
oI the suggestion, 1t met his appreciation. He
would state 1t as he understood it. The first
resolution rs 'that Committee be appointed to
take into consideration the bill or declar,,ion of
'ignts And the ft'h resolution is "that all such
parts Of the present Constitution are Not referred
"hy the foregoing resolution, he referred 10 Com
"inittec Sc-"-iIe had understood the PROPOSE, on
was to unite these resolutions in one As the Rrs
duary Committee would have but little duty to pcr.
form, and the Committee formed under the first
resolution would also have bat little to do he ap.
proved of the suggestion for their union.
Mr. MERCER Thought it would hare been best 10
adopt the resolutions first, and then To move nm
amendment. but he willing to take any other
coursc-He had intended himself to propose an
amendment OF the character described after the re
solutions were adopted.
MI DoDDRIDGE stated that II his friend from Au-
giista had allndcd TO something which Ind allen from
linn, nc had misunderstood him. II, rad stated in
answer to an observation that had objected to
the biz OF rights, that he certainly did not object to
the declaration Of rights. 1t his text hook; but
that since reformation of the Constitution had been
proposed that declaration had been openly denounced
III 1916 and last winter within these walls as docu-
men containing nothing but theoretical distractions
which did well enough napcr, hut were totally
unit for practical Use, and he wished to re-enact 4,
now to the intent that such done by all united
Virginia through this Convention might serve TO re-
deem the young men Of the present generation, who
are now TIghtinlly treading our heels. from the
danger NJ Filling into fatal political error.
There wa one clause in the declaration Of riolta
Tii men nrc by nature equally free" &c which some
iucmib"rs might wish to shorten though he did not
himself. literal Interpretation of that clause
made II to embrace population which ITS makers
never intended, and which in two neirhbournC
States and in Canada, has been thrown in the way Of
the masters seeking to apprehend their runaway