Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-10
eide, aud a different basis for both Houses On the


And could there be case, sir, where e1r,qi MS we'll
as mutual, concession was more reasonable For
neither side say tn the other, we out number
you and you ought, therefore, TO yield to numbers
Neither side will presume TO say TO the other, VIC
have more wisdom than you, more Intelligence more
liilnrmalon, more experience, patriotism, or
more OF the confidence of our constituents. Yes
SIR, there never was case imposing more obligation
on both sides to relax in their opinions and by equal
as well as mutual surreadcrs of opinions 10 meet on
middle ground.
acknowledge that cannot concur in the expedi.
ency of adopting arrangements merely temporary,
however may respect and value the motives pronlp
ting them. They would, III my view be but an an
odyne TO the public agitation. only to awaken it.
AFTER lapse OF ten years, To Il violent state
II would be folding up IN the instrument of concil-
iailcn Itself. hidden torches of discord To be- lighted
up whenever the same great subject should be re-
viewed. On the whole, sir, | shall give my vote
I for the plan proposed by the gentleman from North
anpion, is more equal ground Of compromise than
the other and have thought proper to make this
explanation lest my course should be supposed want
ing consistency.
Mr. NIcnot, thought due hmcf,o vinleac he course
ne should pursue the present Like gentleman
iron Orange, Mr. MatSOn0 he though, unc provision
ought !" Gs made Tor future dppo'tioncn,s hui this
pIeeucd bN tr Proposuou of The scuIleman Albemac
lNr Gordon No man III the Convention represented por
o % '1 ''e MAJ "ond lose greater number OF represent
iacs by the than District: and Ills pc
sonai opinion was that representation ought based on
more numerous inn>e oi Delegates but he M himself placed
IN situation where he must sacrifice the local OF his
4
He thought whole hes, So i, gave him great
pain To- he obliged to choose between but he thought
S'nn.d "c nest suherms the interests OF his 10y
IToP'+' the p'oP"S,u" OF the gentleman nom AbonGse-
lie considered himself pledged his 10
arrangement "i future system OF apPortioumcn,.
Mr. SCoTr said lac acting with the members front middle
Virginia in embracing Mr.. Goldon's scheme.
Tie would step farther: He thought should in IA
YOUR OF some scheme o future appouonngnt lie would not
be one o! lean majority force any respecting
lcci on minority but he prepared any respect
"nie ho'y IA any plaza they should be able agree upon
! Inc question was row tasrn on Mr. Du,duGgt's amend
men and 'lc'ied IN the uesative-ayes II, noes -
OR Nc'e voting aye: NeSsrs Madison and Marshall!
me question W., tie" taken on Mt GoFdons amendment,
and cancd-lycs u, uoeS -
! OR Marshall, ayc Mcss,s Madison and Monroe, no)
50 the Committee agreed by majority q, adopt the
io-wn5 as a substitute for the scheme Of Mr Upshu
"Reyocsd That the representation tie Senate and House
! of Delegates OF Virginia, shall be apporoncd follows:
There shall be IS Senators West Blue Ridge OF Noun.
ains aud 10 East OF those Mountains
There shall be the House of Delegates l27 members of
whom - shall he elected from the district Yves, Of the Ale
shdny Mountains II from the Valley the Allegheny
and Blue Ridge is from the Blue igc lie head OF tide
water, aud 81 thence below
hlr Ur,IuH offered the iunowu. amendment:
Re5o-ed That the Legislature shall power to re ar
range the representation in both Houses OF the General Assem-
bly, once in every years upon far average of the follow
/ numbers.
M Tmomr,v Of Amherst, offered the following amendment,
RsSOi~td, That tire year the Legislature shall pro-
vide taking the census Of the population of the STATE
and ior Of its lands and the succeeding
session after the shall be taken and assessment te
Legislature shall by law submit 10 tine qualified voter IN.
decision Of tie question: OF the basis representation IN both
Houses the Legislature II majority concur IN favor of
any particular basis the Legislature sa Al their succeed
ing session. appoon 2G delegates and - senators accord
s to such basis and shall provide by law for all appor
tonu'en upon such basis, and for all future
should the majority Ai 10 combine any basis, Legs
laiuJc snail adNp, compound white pupulatlon
taxation aud federal numbers m one only or bob branches Of
the Legislature TO them shall cxpcdienand law
50 70 be enacted for appoommcm, OF representation
future assessments shall become and forever part
/ of tins Constitution.
The question being taken whou; debate it was ncsayed
lle,srs Madison, Monroe and Marshall MOL
MI. CAMrBl IL OF Brooke, offered the following
Stcsoref, That the Legislature shall IN the ycar
make provision for the organization of Convention equally as
nearly H may be, the qualified this
VINO l re apporon the representation both Houses Of the
General Assembly upon such basis they shall think best and
aSo make provision tor future periodical appointments
Mr. Johnson stated the why should vote against
cnhed with no powcT pass them was called for specific,
object VIZ the amendment of the Constitutions and /, had no
. power 10 90 any t.!u5 else.
/ he amendment rejected
p MIR Ci,rFon moved the following a substitute for Mr..
Rsolred That when the amended Constitution shall be sub.
eH 10 the people, the following question by way of amend.
princrl ofte appo,onment Of rcpre'enlaon WIZ
Sfa me 6asts Of representation "a both branches Of The
Legislature be 'atiie population cIcl,sceiy>
After fe" remarks in explanation by the mover and an
objection by Mr. L.iGn
! The amendment rcccied-uycs 80
Mi trzuuGH offered the Jowiug amendment.
Rc,orr', That ia the year aud IN every tenth wear
appoIuon the representation in the House of Delegates
nearly possible proportion white popuaon- Popied
~ division 1900 10y ~
/ u was Tciccicl-aycs -, noes 80
The question being then put on Mr. Upshur's amendment
lse3 above % carrici-ayes 30.
i Mr IrsnrR moved the following proyis1.
"PrOci&3, That tie number House of Drlcr,tr
shall never exceed nor the number of In, Sc,,,,
" IL carried
, hlr S.J.r moved that the Commute, now rise
Mr. PowEfL suggested that would he better 20 report pro
grc's and 60 into Inc House and get a vote upon H.
Mr. LEIGH said he did distinctly understand what h,
progress was. he wished 20 and reject upon u
mr MfRcin commended that nothing had yet been done
because u the understanding. when Mr. Johnson made
lbs motion 90 strike lhc word Resolved from MIR Upshu
Tt proposition that vote be finally taken on accent
. ing that proposition us it might be amended
, The Cham said should hold be duty to put such
question: should be moved; but contrary To the I,
which understood have been adopted AZ the commence
mcnt Of the deliberations Of the Convention The duty Of
COMMITTEE was to amend; that whole duty. and If Il
coid not gnend What was sent TO IT, To report tie with
G out amendment.
Mr. S'orr opposed to reporting in part Let the Com
mec and settle what be al the elements Of t
nc" Constitution and then refer tho whole 10 Select Com
miicc 10 put them into regular form
10 The Committee then rose
p ordered,
4 The House adjoumod