Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-11-17


speech, relating the history of the right Of su,,n
IN Virginia and MIR. Leigh briefly rcjoined..
Yhe question was then put on Mr. Le;obs avs.
ment, and carried in the nesatue ayes 4y. NOES An
the same vote on Saturday
Mr. Scott then moved that the COMMITTEES re
which was carried, ayes So and ON motion of nj,
Macrae the Convention adjourned.
MoSpAY, NovEmpsRo
.WR. GILES SPEECH-Co1,i,,,u
he begged to call the attention Of the Conven,on -,
point Much had been said about the o,der 90 W soe3
he gu m and nohng more was said than was merieH
referred for presidents, but which the eone,, e peep
Look every where suffrage has n 10
versal suffrage and you will universal dsorder -
a dav or ,o n, ia oi an sorts lie had been amused 9r
New York The Convention Stale had fe,r ,ae Oh
suffrage people of all colosed black wh,e e rh OF
twas posopcai asserted, thai mere Difference yow:
rights lie had read with amusement one Hson o.
@ worse ehan confounded" In the elections is, had
and anti Jackson each nominating regular ,icIs,
nomina,ion however anexpecedl, uf
party Yes, she starts the principle of the Rs
Gvans properly morals and all the gifts OF God eousI'
III common and indscriniuately, amongst the ,bo
people For the Two first days Miss FANNY Wrsh,, n e
wa aa a"eao ana great was the alarm lest should succeed
py stedt eAeuons OF all parties in New York and bv ~ Va
vldentiai nierpoion, Miss Fanny Virgins ,ica ' ay rl
the persons on Mssy Fanny .n W sRfs1 @
ualy succeed) Thus that State has escsS nio ar
ees present. but for h.. e o. Goal s, and p
Gentlemen will probably reply, the popuh,;o
York is heterogeneous like ours OF Se
hnweve all must admit, a slender ground on w;I - ms
dt e aeabe,r Iisns ana liberties of mere pes
ths presumption to exist in deSeeal mSst ADM, pose
m Ss De very limited degree May gentlemen be ua
circumstances men are the every where and sniIar
9 -, % always produce similar effects Its merits an ar
.I iuithsl hiered from the honorable compliments
N TINS debate even by its adversaIies-n The fanL
he o. ne honorable beray of the To-
hsil .a'a failure to show any whaeyer 1 nom
and honorable colleague, s1 Leigh of Cher ,S "s worthy
us neng influence, we have enjoyed all these Gnde
IN no one instance has the wisdom of our % years
conspcuously displayed than in means chos en nre
cation of the county courts, and in throwne ogan
e aes o. power into the hands of mddna es n
e nane Class relying upon their uniform moral on
en,,d any 'n ; or balance whatever, than aoyemsn,
checks which wisdom could devise The orgsni al he
county courts Is marked with peculiar wisdom The COMM, VIE
90 win portion of the Executive powers These
% s 10 hegsn9hoods nearly equally tbouafo, ,S
ence IN his own neighborhoo bich with lbs Official a nu
world gce @ forms the strongest Executive in tho
hence II has been so frequently so enpatical ~ law
the maym oS m , efe seen contradiction Of
teo q! me same time the most and mos, s;
single hand, its moral and official Influence co Ice, IN
more upon the affections than upon the fears Of ,b
Another peculiarly of this organization is thai b e people
are totally destitute compensation or reward %
her JUDICIAL and executive capacities Their onIn @ VI
Is the monopoly of the shefaty and il y penlus>te
deprive them even of that inadequate ciance Of 10
wen nat compensation never received in their
CITY Their judicial functions cease as soon ae th @ apa
commences They then in ministerial ,' s"enaiiy
caPacityand this is of peculiar merits ~ judicial
justice being thus administered, freely without @ system
70 Keep IT'S current pure and unpou,ed We reserved es
county court system directly from ngo saxon ss Oot
uus II may he traced back for than 1900 wears @ m
presen, tne and beyond The period the Saxon b e
converted INTO the Saxon During that onT %
Time and amidst all the fluctuations of human az '1 o
been attended with the happies effects 'ha"S Tds
mere % proper thus to present TO the Committee t,
exhausted and he greatly feared that he had Allen on o
rs meL lie hoped however, that he bad in some S d "
rescued the Virginia Constitution from the ,nre,ea ,
onS thrown against IT, and si he had proved o. Gp
OF The true principles fpolitca SCIENCE e" e iouhoen
re would now accept the inrito,;,r- &c ..,
gentlemen TO inquire into the Condition of mo- ~
vious TO n state Of society-abont which bo eH,
some diterences of opinion. He observed no ae.
pldGe a ID singular dilemma He felt himself com.
DeHed 10 agree with gentlemen in their nrer,;sos ~
1ne side OF the question, and to differ with ,or
heir conclusions; whilst he agreed with +,.,i, ~
% inc otheF SIDE IN their conclusions and differed h
mem IN their premises. Although he ,cos c;,a -,
YIN the eloquence of his worthy colearuc M III
u Chesterficdl and of the honorablc rent Ion &
northampton (Mr. Upshur,) he was rT1c,n,,I to''
oeeu 10 oier with them in the opinion, that there
never existed stale of nature whilst Lo c,,,,.,.I1
Hth them in the conclusion, that msior,i tt
10 rght 70 govern but that derived from tle SOL
,opact' At the same time, notwithstanding l.,
omc IRE, %ith the honorable gentleman from Io.
ieII WI: Merccr,) who had displayed all his ro
u reasoning and exhibited all the briiancv "F or;
'nal imagery Oh this occasor.l Tie on;nio, az,
nan ad existed in state Of nature, he
hat to dissent from The conclusion
uch state. ''git 10 govern III
eo-. " cad he woad tell plain tale, and lis univ
,. would be 10 b. uude stood He believed tb",.
49, b o. ma ure, and that It was susceptible Of
ooi oo'hIrom history and for the reason aud ma
u lI OF thlngs-a sirgle fact and remark olv. tr
on;n "ugh; 10 be sufbc ent 10 salty eve