Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1829-11-23

MI T. stated, that all society 10 composed
of cApital aud labor--aud II depends upon the
combination Ut these powers, what form oil
Con.,nuiion shall Ice created. suppose put
properly up stairs. aad population down stsms,
VIVA will b. he elIrc, How can the senate
control thu House of De,egaics--a body of -
men checking 80 larg. aud popular n branch
gfsatar IN IT'S iphuenco-greaier because lheJ
are more numerou.--grestur because they arr
responsible 10 the peofle. Aud II they oppose
the House OF Delegates they must always give
way 1hey will tie called ohgsrchic. a the
gentleman from Brooke Hr Dpddudge.I ha.
done The cry OF mad dag will be raised agai"s,
them---aud though they may somsiimrs play
the pau ot CTitics--cross the Is, and dot the >,
aud correct all bad spelling, II there be any
member IN the House Of Delegates who cannot
spell vel ~ 10 any eilic check, they will
| never be able Ia ekerl II.
lie commended That representation must be
determined, by the interests of The otaie-thnl
IL "a essentially distinct IN dtGerent pa,ts-thaI
the Western winters never could posses largo
commerce The Underwater country coul d
neyer have Extensive manufactures Hrtfac.
el the other interests IN the Stale, and de-.
cribed geographically tho three great lrlan
| giles IN rs territory, produ lng Cotton, gram
aud tobacco. lie saiJ he sas not sufficiently
acquainted with the Western district TO trace
IL Interests ia the same manner geographical
| ~ But shall moi these various interests b.
/ duly represented And shall not these re.
pres, niation he duly distributed according 10
the convenience of those various interests
themselves And would you not tins obtain
| government exatuy "a You have It NV
divided INTO truniIrs not distributed according
10 numbers Aud thu only necessity for REQ
oriing 10 that rule, u, 10 20 ls'lzr tho Counties
| having the same interest, moro nearly a cord
! lng 20 their population And this might have
| ueen done but Tor the Inhibition IN the Con
sti'n,ion And this might hive been done by
the Legislature IN the year 1916 when they
passed the Senatorial Bill, bn, inr this nhihi.
ion. lie gave full history 81 this bill--the
result Of which was, thai the proroiiio Of o
senators bcJ ond be mountains and Is on IN
side, WA made as has been sad not accord.
ing 10 the basis ofwhre population, bn, a the
result 81 ihr various hhs"s Whlrh were ihen
sug2"sird.-Appy the saIne principle pnt The
map o. Virginia and Gearge Agspn's soustuu
ton before you, and changing single Inc
IN the Constitution would ansNere every o. rct
unless, inded. II NE true rs the gen lnman
from Augusta dr.J phnson sa,s lne present
ba n contest Tor power turn mIeed, morning
will be done mo concessions. toWever hnmDlr,
wi'l satisfy the peopln OF The West lie would
nothing; aud II divisioa B.. o ne the fesnll, he
could not help, we've, much lie might re-.
srci II. MOI thaiht was an enemy 10 rriprm--
hui II any gentleman wodld satisfy hin Of any
practical mschiek, which this Constitution
had produced, Or more, was likely 10 produce, he
Tor ooe would 90 tor such felnrms But liz
did not come here, IN uplurn all the iounda-
ZION 81 the Constitution gentlemen would
hay, YOU have the power, aud We ~ant II and we
VIII have u, because we have the maj nruV-he
neV"r would regard such demands. He insist
upon -, that II In, qucslipu Was e. be d mere
irngsic Ter power. and 10 he decided Nv any
pihrr al nmrnI than reason, the consequences
must be pcrni#ious. \, m ancicnl Sparta,
when Que parry SAL. we Will come and take
~ VII ch the Other ATTY and, come then and
kc--the phtiy ca ne. bat did MT grt what
they drmau ed. D might II be on the present
occasion.
NJ. DoDpRipGE mad some explanations of
the SrnulotaI Bi,l--aaeut which he sad. HI,
recollection dl not agree that oftbe zen.
ileman from Norfolk. lie referred to the Au-
ddol's tables. 10 show how unequal wa. tue
representation al this lmc.
Mr. Johnson explained. that lac did not mean
That either party was contending for power,
! upon any other principles thnn was right
Aud he pui 10 ihc candour of the centlenal
from Norfolk 10 say, whether taking either
basis, the question was not how the power
was to be dlslribu cd among the dillertnt parts
oil the olatc.-iie SAID, there was no man IN
! the Committee more disposed To settle these
differences than hims alf-but he should vote
! against this proposition OF the Federal Basis
lie himself should prefer, for The sake of dong
Justice and allaymg discouients, the basis OF
qudAfed roters. He md ], other remarks upon
| Of aHn
two branches OF The Legis atnre. lie al.orl-
ferred to the remarks Of the gentleman from
| Charlotte, Mr. Randolph winch he dec ined
answering from the respecI he had for him eli
and the Comm tee
! MIR. MERCER referred also, 10 the History
"t'he Senatorial BID TO show, that the bas,
oiihe senatorial Representation was not what
the gentleman from Norfolk had stated it--nnd
also thai the basis which that gentleman sta
ted, ms the one which ought to regulate the
representation IN the House OF Delegates 10
wit, the variety of separate Interests, | was as
variable. as that which Tie gentleman ha d
objected to. viz taxation He controvelied
the ideas OF Mr. IazrwelI drawn from the va
f,"'y OF Interests III the State, the manufactur.
ing and the agricultural interests (which were
SO mu'ahle as 10 furnish no adequate standard.
| lie denied thh the counties were all formed
for the purposes of represeutation-or that
any counties were divided to suit the different
interests, but only 10 promote the convenience
OF the people, in relation 10 tht ir attendance at
the Court Houses.
Mr.. tooKE examined the arguments q Mr.
Iaaewell, with respect TO his theory of inter
ess. lie commended that the original represen.
taton OF Virginia was according to the number
OF Tree white inhabitants Upon which he
referred 10 an ordinance OF the London Com.
pany-declarine that the representatives.
should be elected by the inbabitants-He con.
tended there was no county represent alton
hli the year i66l--ihat the provision
that no county should send more than two
delegates, arose from The penurous disposition
OF the tobacco planters lest larger deega.
tion might prove onerVus 10 the treasury
Mi. LEIGH, IN answer, went into general
history OF The progress OF the Colonial Govern
ment down t. the Revolution, as il respected
The subject of representation aud the Righ
) Of Sutf,ase.
Mr. Cooke rejoined with some little asperity
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