Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-11-03

80 -ViiE'iDc DaS'S order the
90 e government lo that diversity. lie asked ii thew
! "ad eyer read of any Communities where tbar1
G"s NOT !. diversity of interests It results
: rom inc HUMAN character. There can be no
conformity nE interests, If it could be shown that
lhere were interests ayeG in hostility against each
pl.er. that ;iIgt.t be reason for comuronise II,
otcer 10 Keep them distinct. We hare but one form
ei government, and that single form would then be
applicable to s1C state oil thuys-tor interests NJ
war VII n each other could De controlled bv>ona
form OF government, but would take their natural
soo,sheG. - @Ts
Tie had already detained tho Committee too )onr
Iu Hoa'd ouiT otter few remarks more in cpnse-
" :E.ldl I"G Iuien !ruh the gentlemen from
800 ''"'1P'oh ana OT"rge 1t had been asked if We
WoIdG accent of the Whole power of the ecuutry anC:
pay ~ tae expenses of ne country. He would say
30. Because nc believed there left yir,ue enough
aisst ~ 10 rey2it rem buying selling political
power lie woGk, neither ta.e money nor give !.
pr af power and ti.c gentleman himself. notvii-
standing hs own proposition, would revolt fit were
seriously proPounded 20 him. rs To the pentIe,non
from Ounge, he had rejected Tie idea of basnq the
representation on property alone. SO Mn. PoWr11
sam nc Old, pat he would respectfully sa y that If an
poured t" hon, that the amendment would base pow
CT 70 certain extent property, and that extent
You'd be equivalent majority. fie might tne
inlst2kn, but II struck him tie Inevitable concl
sion, lat the uuiop u wealth gives power to prom
cry: and that eqaiyalsit to ajoriiy of the popu-
lie would Ia; trouble the Co,,,uitf:e with onv
further remarks. Ee had prescribed his arguments
more from OF duty than from CONVICTION.
}a' 1t confirmed any thing which entitled it to th:
attention Of he Committee bot 10. the kindness with
which le had been heord he rendered the Commit
tee his grateful Acknowledgements.
.@lr i .}&RlS of Hanover then rose to assign tn,
reasons lor MS course 1t seemed 80 him that the
question WINCH discussed by the last gentlemen.
was not nrcclsely What are r5aaidcriuE. He IN,
ders'ood II 20 be ii representation stall be fixed ac-
cordlng to numbers on the white population onfy q
N the COMBINED ratio Of population -aad taxoticn.
roi! SOME IT his remarks, he considered that tho
gentleman had supposed the qnes:ign he as to tic
"ioFtonment to he hcrAattcr made lien the right
oil suf'Fd9e is f>od on that basis according to Tie,
number o! }fghtinr mG1 found a1e. Neither @,
these questions had been before The COMMITTEE; and
When we come 10 either Of them it ould be tine.
enough 10 answer what had been said on those SUN
actS' ne question nov ls--shail representation ha
med on ae basis "f numbers only g. Oh popuIatiu-,
and taxation coi@s;neGa i short question but
rs decision nYu-yes luca of t.e happiness or Injser
OF THIS Commonwealth. E.tore lie euefed into Tie
subject, IL would nake'a remark CT ". .o ka,2
IL len froIn geAt!eiEen on The other size.
Il was not enough for neitl,.,,lcii l., prove thar
go{eTaE'5t Yves established for tue piotcctc. of lie;
a"d property. twas eno Gin for tl,n to rroy,
tnnt ieair personal tights would lc il. danger tfor.
the change pressed ~ tIa ats.cIl.l.1it If the-;
profci tff.L their li~iis would Je issocrad bv t3
nooploiI Of L basis q ropula:l ;tod taxation c5,Y
pi' 'li';s = vas also Prove, that Il ghts wou!i
be secure l.der 2e-- na'ion founded on numbers
acne ,2ay aii sag-', ar id not occupy tire whole
ground II t,ey -icuc, irct Their own rights wo,,Ih
1ot DC secure i y.a o@a proposition as adopted IN
less ;!tcv could also sicw that hv the abortion of t,,
c1,.>- his lll. side ,. lie EIou;rain ,voriS
not De- cast at t- .-et Of Tie o,izrns on the otLrT
their argument was sufficient. Il.at MIGHT per-
haIa, prove that v.e org h 20 hi &c tvo Ccnstitnons.
J or Agilt induce ~ E" !,f9 middle priucipia
Wir would protect =, - IN; c.,5,s. Ii no such mid
de principle could be oG.G 5y which 18th ,aigLt L..
satisfied and securoL lie wuui! then apree # Ire in
congzuity Of those interests was so graat thai ono
lnra5 be sacrificed ticn Il WJ0d become cur Gu!y 10
oi'r t%o Constitutions to the Commonwealth.
! ttehoped there woLd be 30 such necessity He
hoped that we should s.e such result rom uur h.
hors would secure 10 the West their r,~son,I
rights and to the East theirs. lie hoped su for MS
Nirginiap, il would be his pride to fcc9 the Inas "a
: they now are--ahd not 10 line Of separation
across the State. 9ot!at ie could not arrce rnlcs
! IT should become necessary for the West or y
| the last: tie hoped no such necessity would
occnr. IF nothing could be done to satisfy The
West, and the incOngruy 81 interests Should still
exist he knew not what would the result bit .
It'd not entertain any fears, tat il would be the sub
version OF or republican system. lie felt 10 aprre-
tensions that VIRGINIA would be unable TO live rnd.r
that system that it would D. chabeo r any o,i-
~ form oi government. We arc not at hgctty +,
ADOPT any othertorm of government. There Is an
otlier government Of which y 6 are member; our
oohgatmns 10 which would stand in ne way Of sLcl
I! change.
Is it n"ccssary that representation e79l b, based
Oh numbers and on rvc40ry+ only. When Ills de-
BATE first commenced i srauc@ 10 i,.!, from v hat j,
coud col'ecl. that there WAS a impression On the
minds Of sou!c rno1bcTs. tas III r,rh was derived
firm some in.nreDt original yGjl,i right. THIS
had been urged witt much cari.stncss eariv in Tie
discussion But since the abo argraent Of lie GET
teman from Nor'mnIi'oa ''7t ,'ounj had becJi
aGondcnaG and told fiat tie Yirb, to
govern ny numbers is OF Cor, ep'ional origin that
u was compact creyei ,',o Ivy our ancestors ana
ought t" be imperative. We referred to the Bill
uf Rights for This right. lIt he gentlsmrp who r..
fer 10 this instrument, look to Its l5nruarc. and
rot regarding the specifications Of power in the Cor
situion, tal;e ny the Bill OF Rights as the rule II
tho zen; lSmcn look st that only. and consider that
only Constitution, there might be some f,,yGc
II the argument. lie commended That Ly loo king at
the language OF the two ins'r1nents-tis y;,Il II
Rights and the Constitution together IA pcw Ight
WOuid be thrown the minds oF those who had
quotc1 the Bill Of Rights aiorc 70 sustain tlair
course OF argument lie said lIa, tyreoh reference,
u woulG be seen that those who hid g Foundation,
Of this government, had mot bg' OF any such uic4-
pfeaiion Of principles, as had JcsD made by thceon-
tieInen on the other side.