Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-05-18

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snips, because Il seems TO me most important.
Ills lordship then read part Of an Argument Of lord Coke. to
show that the sovereignty Of the HING and hs Supremacy Vas a
doctrine ofthetsw in tho Oldest times of this cour,rr~n, ,;',ss
whea pure christianity, which, Said ms lordshipa lord so,nrr,
observed, was the best infe ntaIcc OF hs lnaiu.t w. st,niec,s ,,d
which they had a right at all tunes 10 defend, bun adde's H.
iordship) God forbid they should defend them by an, bu, cor.
s,iiuiionsi means Tive case went Of 10 show t6at This su,r..
macy Of the Crown was NJ, 4 supremacy that or,ginsfnd i'm Nm.
toublous times ofNsry aud Elizabeth, bu, in the saxon ,iues
of the monarchy, when the religious supremacy of the <oyn
was maintained with the utmost hrmnesS; aud IL vas a sin,vi,.
case, that though the men of Kent made so yiolen, a res;s,sn~s
Of the crown. his lordship then read the observatio, "f Io,S
Coke. that TO wise, trueIiearted Enslishman would ,cG,s.
adopting the catholic religion. ard by which he might escaue
iron the error into which lie had fallen fom his blinGfold ;vnn.
rance. My lords, Continued the noble Early 1 u.s., exactlv
these reasons Tor the purpose Of opposing this bin. IL is said
that the bin is introduced as a measure of nee e,sitv. and 10 me,
that has existed for some time, and yet has never been d,sco.
vered before ! have moi yet said one word about tie associa-
ton, except simply that II the suppression Of the association
has been effected by the passing ofthis bill, 1t contains nothing.
no, even the common preseryatives, against its eyiyal.
Wehave been told that they dissolved themselves, but we
have not been told whether tire kings OF that ogiu,tin, socie,v
90 NOT still continue every day filling up it, list Of members win
uU ~ ~ =, zoe Sp'iIse now pursued by these people, l say that
all pEetences about selftissolu,ion are mere nonsense. lilo
themes, who, when be was aiked the qres,ion-..fs PhiTn
dead" aiiswcTed-"No; but If hlip should die, and If Won 90
on with these modes, YOU will soon raise TO yourselves another
hug" When speak Ofthe proceedings OF tina, a,s-cia,ion. I
beg leave to say that 1 know nothing OF them, except rs | uude,.
stand those proceedings Gom the insulting, abuninalle, dc,es-
table and srditious speeches that were thus uttered. Yer. no,.
wHhstahInga al these not one prosecution has hecn bIangli, Oh
account % thtut mo noble and learned Lord near m (iori
Iiunket/ is quite clear fsom the blame of having passed them
Syer-tLnrd Piun@e,, here said he bad not been Attorney
ed the earl of Eldon) have not been Attorney General during
the last 20 years-But, my lords, when | had the honor 70 fi
put down some mischieyous societies tina, had prrng N IN this
country Laws we've introduced intn pa attainment for the pu,uose
onails II Il uiey mad not be-" considered as aLzI!aIies to tie
powers; and tie constantly exercised powers, OF the Attorney,
General OF England, which had then to misfortune TO hc; all
through what then did. ! remember one case, NV Lords tb,i
occurred at that time, and that furnishes "a curious contrast ~
what has lately taken pinee IN Ireland. There was a man of
me name OF John Ross, a very good and respectable man in
o'AcF respects, but who belonged 10 the convention, and who
'"y received contributions to carry on the cause OF "No King
lie was prosecuted by Sir Archibald, who was then Attorney
~ consequence OF SIR Archibald hlscdonald being promoted 70
b. thief oaEon oi the Exchequer, that prosecution was carried
uH' 30 what CID me 'ohrt OF hmgs Bench say 10 him? Why,
!" : Lo'us mS'e"h Il the three months imprisonment provided
b. iEis ol! against the members OF the associa,ion-a punish
rem, 10y INC Dy't that the may escape, for you can only inhict
- u ~ s' ho!do ithem, aud the'e are no provisions for getting
nuin nj t1cIn-in-trad Of that, nv lords, the court of kin,'s brnrI
%'d 10 VII hoss' that the wcTis he had uttered al the meetings
vince &c '!"d besn Were hiehiy se'tuous, and they ordered hin
TO DC imprisoned Tor thee years. lie would now draw their =,
'eAtion To the case of king OConnel-(a laush) who would
u"'ouess ere i"is DE III possession OF a pTinceiy revenue, If hr
he'd I not M his pocket already, which was oy no means imuro,
oaIIe' "hen an act was passed for tile purpose Of pu.,iI.
Gown te cathn"c association, King OConneli called IL an AL
geTire act Why was he not prosecuted for ihise Then there
was The orator who spoke at penenden Heath. and TO whom he
"Oui1 now particularly annde; but had lie not iradUced all tn
established institutions OF the country, aud vet been permi,,ed
to escape without a prosecution he had ex-
h'ilsied almost every opinion Of viiuperation which his magma.
ton eonld suggest And yet they were told that they mus, CON.
sent TO this measure, because the government know o. matters
winch, however, they do not choose To communicate. II their
lordships would read Barrow on Supremacy, they would find
there more arguments than he could offer, though he wee 10
speak until he were exhausted. The oath vl;ci, ever, one ~
their iofds'ips took, prior 10 taking his seat, was, that he he
heYe1 thHt no ioFei5n prince, power, nor po.suiate had or ought
20 nave, power N these Kingdoms Now v,en DR. Dooie -
i'shcd has pastoral letter, he seemed to think HAT unless there
vas a Catholic ~ x and legislature, the affairs of tive Kingdom
could not proceed as they OUGHT to do. He would suppose ,fn,
they were now speaking in 1864, instead of 1923; and if their
lCTdahins iSnuid iUoE 10 the proceedings OF the convention in the
tame OF William, buti before aud ater that convention wa t,,rn.
ca mtOa Id9l4tNI'nt, There was moi CEg II their arts ui.rh AL
hot require a declaration asaHns; tran srbstant.aiiun; and al
iAe church OF Rome were daimlalIe and idolatrous. stI tlev
required II 10 bc sworn trat a certain potion OF their creed was
idoiarous OIear) Riy lords / enrsat of ym, 90 consider Tho
effect thai tie decision oil this great question viii hava on The
minds OF the majority Of tie community, the moral aud RELIGIOUS
cali II mora! and religions. my l,-ts 80. :,
uudoubtedlv IS So cknoNlcdaed 10 be- Consider | say. NV Iori,
what the elect Wi! De osmiioducine into Ihis hau-c FIVE ar ~
catholic peers; nv thu n;rl1ucuono of even TIM, rurnt.,r ms i,-ds
You sanction uo lurii To- the practice. (GeaE) Then wiz. re-
spt,t 10 tie other house ofT5r'tncnt L&now how that house
5 u".I. l r2' ~ 'oi maj Ho roman catholic members viii bc
the extent o; The number relurnei by the forty shiiius Irrenold
efs OF Ireland. But would ash, my loGjs, what. in the nave
ni Goo! after tbs bhi passes into a law, is there 20 prevent so
MANY roman catholics taking their places in that house as there
are seats TO accommodate? NiearI. IL has been said tim, Inc
present question IS not a religious one it is, nv lords, a rcl-
s'ous a wei as d political question, aud tina; in a very .ycat de-
gree My lords, wrat has Or Duylc SAID, that we. that is The
roman catholics of ireland, must iayc 4 roman caihui;c King.
but Nhrt has Ncnyou, and TinrIow, aui E.!ruLoroIzh and ma
ny more SAN un tMs suujccu-aud ! would pray war lordsiirs
10 rcme'une. WHAT they said, aud what | have yiid and pcrhai,
also at the same Time TO look into tie history of tic country a,
Ile periods when these religious contests between roman caiho.
~ NN' WNNNN nav tttN kfNI ti iIai. dl~l 10 the tgUOr
oil the revolution TN 1888, and there is not, 7 am sure, enc of
your lcr:shins who VIII contradict nc when I say that il is the
duty nf every government To support an established church; that
has been my opinion from ihc first, and I certainly do no, hest.
To tell your lordshins that it A.lIl rerua n 81 10 the last
Qlear) dc not harbour any IL WILL towards tLe roman caihn.
nor TO the professors Of any other religion; bu; / will tell
your ioriShips that ! had much rather that voI would establish
. new religion altogether, than you should introduce that religion
which am persuaded - calculated to nvcHhrow the establish. "a
church IN Ireland rs well as IN England. I have no hesitation
IN sayin- that. -Nisar )-Iwn YOUR inrdships' attention 10 the
7ct of UNION; - Is impossible 10 look 81 that act and say that any
pdptst can ever havea right ~ III IN Parliament: look az the dit
ie'cni articles IN that act. both with respect to the church Of
scotland and tho church Of England; the object Of these articles
was 20 preserve The fundamentals Ut tive protestant religion en-.
the that act also distinctly states that no papist. or suspected
rapII, s!rallbc capable OF clcctirg. or Of 1eing elected and sn-b.
an wch assured. IS itc understanding Inv Scotland NJ the pres
cnt time. My lords, IL IN poicm phTascoiorv YOU are settling
un" question, | beg ~ remind your lovdshjps that those laws
when they were framed, were intended never 10 TO disturbed;
by the adoption Of these measures ! avn convinced That YOU will
break IN uron the present and most holy sysitn, II religion ON
The facc of the Earth, and wrfc 20 vote lr u, I should lg civ.
ng a vote which viii lead IN the utter rom ofttc church OF Eng |
Tic NoUie Earl here read extracts from various writer's |
to show the necessity of protecting the protestant establishments
by legislative enacimrnis His lorislrp then coutinucd-Riv
lords am fully convinced no true protestant. II he gives the
IT,