Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-29

and supposed that The question had heen co Tod
He opposed the resolution, and urged tina, il any
s'heInG oil futuse appoTuonment hdlpled, in the
present state OF opinion in and out OF ills House il
would SOW the seeds Of future war and lend To now
struggles for power, by Whatsoever party that rht
feel tsrh strengthened by future entertainments of
population. lie considered It most happy feature
o. 'h' scheme Of the gentleman from Albeua rle
(Mr Oofdon) that il provided only for the present
WITHOUT lOoking 10 future apportionments. Mr. =
dilated at considerable length the mischief of
adopting rule for future aDpOrtionment, and aimr-
ed that the section of the State which the balance
oil power would be placed by the scheme Of the ZEN
telnnn from Richmond the same MS where pl-
ccd by the scheme of The gentleman from Alberna r
namely the upper extremity of the middle Dis
trlct--a region where II safely deposited rs
It's IN cfests III many respects dencs, with tie
cast anu IN many other, identical with the west-and
winch could not lean either exclusively the one d.
vision of the Slate the other without nurnu itself
Mr. - replied TO an objection urged by Mr. Neale in
favor OF his plan for future app0rtonm nts TINT wit III
ou' IT. efforts would lie made for Convention.
he ms sted that the middle country and the Valley
by whose aid Convention had been called woud
not unite in the call Of auoihcr--ihat IL regard 20
ferEesen'atlon the scheme Of the gentleman from Al
nenarlc. gave them all they we're entitled toask and
'ch reio'natIons wou!I - made In Inc judiciary.
ana such an extension of tue right Of suffrage Gran
""' the other pTncipa! causes which had influenced
lhem to vote IN favor of Convention, as would he
prestimSt i. satisfy the most uucruous Mr. Scott
investigated the principle asserted the proposition
ol the gentleman from Richmond to apDoriIon future
representation upon the number Of reehods assessed
nj not less than S25 value. lie affirmed that it was
based neither upon population, wealth. nor the whole
lana Of the country, but upun the accidental subdi-
VISION OF lands IN tho different couu:cs &C the com
conw"ah, and he denied that this accident prcsen.
ted principle the distribution of noyor ,yortbv r
ADOPTION lie gave various statistical details 10 prove
that the RUE would work most unccunllv and would
eNinh re~ults bearing proportion To- the rrla,iyc
population and 1, Hes paid by different Countless
TOR example, the County of Jefferson with more .bnn
nd =
more than $1,000, had fewer frcaholdrrs than Prince
George with population n little exccedinc S6Oe
and paying much less revenue Mr.. S contrasted
many other Counties, displaying results equally
pFsing and disadvantageous to the scheme Of the
gentleman from Richmond, mr.. Neacl and urred
as nm additional objection, tho frauds that mipht he
P'actlsed IN the creation of freeholds beyond the
mountains from the vast tracts vaul.ss land i'm thar
part Ofthe state MIR. Scott concluded nv dantn
carng III warm erms, The reOpcrinr of the question
oi c OaSiS, and expressed s superior uisiSe of the
scheme OF Mr. Neaie, to any that had been offered
Mr. Cook rose not 10 debate the merits q f the
scheme under considerations but TO remove yybo, lie
thought amlsconception Of Tie gentleman from F,u
qulcr Mr. Scott lie had argued a. iftbe scheme
~ the gentleman from RichMond, proposed 10 base
iulurc upppruonment upon CreeioJjy of tho ,,I,o AZ
SS5--whercas he understood It 20 be the whole r,r,-
ue-r OF rrsid ut freehoiaerS whose frcchrIls wore
worm SS'-Mr I. took occasion 20 express his
PiMon ~ favor Of the scheme Of Mr. Ncac. as ia r
just and hunorable-and iradop'cd he was rT,paroI
sc"r the vote transferring the election of Governor
TO hepeop!e With the assent Of Mr. Ncale. his
scheme was hen amended, by striking out IN the
2d res luton the word freehoiierS aud i,sc,,inr
JFerhoH Uotes This being done Mr. Cooke rr,nor7
kcd, fhat the tabular statements OF the ooniicunr
FROM Fauquicr did not apply
Dir. ScorT contcnded that the principle was s;il
the same-that female and i.fint frcehuders it WA
iaIr TO presume, were propor ionObv the same
throughout the state, and that his former observn
lions applied with equal force to the resolution IS a
"enueS. - c3aaF'aation oftAis. he c.,od various
examples.
Mr.. NEA1E briefly replied to come of the obiec-
ions ofthc gentleman from Fauqucr. Tn rcply 70
the argument that his proposition was not founded
upon ei hcr population, wealth, or land-he said
that il rus founded upon populaton-not the rross
noprla' ion, but part and the best part
Mr.. MCoy expressed his favor to the propositio,
which he deemed n fair one, but declared he
could not vote for 1t with 'nt an amendment. This
was To strike ont ;hc paragraph pre5c hing that the
trcehOlds shall be ofno less them So value leaving
the ceh"ldnot to be determined by value but ouan
try-a.d on this amanlm Mt, the ayesaud noes were
Orl red.
Mr.. STUART moved to amend by Inserting the
words land Senate" IN the first resolution and on
this gu 'suon Mr.. SuWUgns called for the ayes and
noes
Mr.. Marshall moved 70 ;ay TIC whole subject .,r
the present on the tgbe-and said that the question
whether thcr" should h. future apportionment had
never been determined What had been determine
I'd was merely against particular schemes OF future
appMtonnen', and not against the general question
Until It had been determined whether there should
he future aPportionmint, he felt himself at
loss how to vote. Mr.. NJ. powerfully appealed 20
he House on the state Of things, the regaid which
was altrac ed To Che proceedings of the Convention
from the world. the mJrifcarion. the humiliation and
the danger, of separating without dono any thur {,
cor, 'uded by expressing his hope th5t his motion
would prevail.
Mr. RANDOLPH rose to deliver for himself an o.
Pinion which he ntleman who had just sat down
imputed 10 the Convention gCncraly--namely-tha
the constitution was cpIb, Of ere Il or c0nsidey
abie amendments. lie was not in fayorof great or
considerable changes, but yo-y small changes only.
Mr.. MARSHALL replied. The gentleman from Char
o'c (Mr Randolph had expressed himself in favor Of
striking or one haifof the House ofDclcgatcs, and
making changes in the judiciary. Those had appear
ed TO him consi lerib' ~ but perhaps what appeared
50 to him appeared inconsdcrebe to the gentleman
from Charlotte.
Mr.. MscER briefly Expressed bis satisfaction at
the course oithc gentleman from Richmond Mr.
Ma, shaIl)
Mr. RANBorru further cynlaircd in ronsiJcr mi,