Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-08

te whuIs of the Eastern members would for IL
also.
lie stated that the gentleman from Frederick had
not taken into Is view the Senate.
Mr. Cooks Saidthc gentleman had not in the Senate
adhered to his own principle. Had he adhered to
his principle, the Senate would have ba.u rs much
looscls rs the House oi Delegates.
MIR. UPshUR then explained his plan in reference to
the Senate, in order 10 explain his views and to cor
rect the impression that would operate uuistlv-
lie had no other view IN not pWovlng for future r.
appointments, because the expense in som. plrts
ot the country would not justify the measure. But
there should be 10 difficulty this point and hc
woud now move TO amend his own prOpusI;iU ION nv
striking out the words "h.vc power 90.
lie assured the West that he meant that the prin
cpic Shoad operate tnr ;her benefit. H. wished Ia
max" the compromise in good faith Tor all times The
difficulty beng removed, II was for gentlemen To de-
tefmn- whether this compromise shtl be accented on
Not. lie rctcra ed that the only conurom So mas,
be a surrender on both Sdrs; and lac had made M.
proposition. on this Principle. He had no care con-
cetn!nG the Ccai's; ic was indifferent AS tnthc man
ncF III which they are arranged. Should the as:
on his principle obtain the majpri'v, II Is r,ht h,
they S 4uid have II, bccau,c they would D, c:'i .
To H. AS sure Us the West shah o. emitted 10 Il the
West will Obtain the transfer eli the power Ii,
stated that there Tas small majority in the Eas,
taxing Z 9 geographical line Il l. a small u,ainri'v
perhaps none at al. taking the lerslatjpn ntc pnn
Try. The = may be 50 divided 90 throw the ma
'nTfy Oh the other side. In the = nate th, ulni,r
ly., vcGy small, lud he Holi ,l ih, c,1,,-v r r
Tao St' IL ~ >uI4ld renlin - ii - the East v,,,,
acton M 'u.y Hut ut winch side vii. hive IT,,
'nlo'ity, Is t.o ~" t'r' tn rrv"cn: -, aduJ,io.
ola Just ari ~. r&cr."' H., ~. suffer tie con-
s'Grration whether is '1l'y $40 f.. A0vc reprcsru
tatvc TO cross HIS maj n ~. I. :-ls NAV v,
a! the represent atom 20 Ncc,stl ry ..,,,
looked 10 principles and To the i.r al -. uprs..
o! them np"n the whole State. So far rs ;.a Wt.>
c'Ds'tcT'd the scheme odrcrse 20 their Interest,". q.
would PENN, them TO run their p,'i though an
part Oft.
Mr.. DoDnUIpGE said he had art ur. tbs n,a-oin,,
thought That he ever should again address this BODY
on The SUBJECT o the basil which j. now brfitc; Ii
did lie that the ground lad been csscn.liiy va
red Tho gcnilcmun from Chesterfield Ind rem ri
cd that the East would submit 70 anv schrr, such
as the West desired, because Il would BE- an intolrr
aoIe, nsuPp !rtlolc tyranny aHl according TO the
gentleman from Chesterfield, il Is ilcobiu;sm.
Mr.. RANDoLru. It's.
Mr. DonoainaG sad that the gcllcmcn say upon
this ground their i.1E WIS plan,c that the West 20
ever trying 10 e.. anilil JlcO5n:cal gaveram:ut-
acrc could be nothing oiansi"C ia this more thu >,
IN what h AMI others had said, tnlt the objects -,
the East are oiigl:ch.l aul arstocrtticai lie Ind
planted his flag. and further IL woulI not ,-n bu, b
Old not say u: would nut suomi. On the contrary
he would submit to the COnstltu iJnll uovcr,u,o,,
The gentleman from Northampton had said the Lycs,
had The power 10 establish he white basis IN tho
House OF u 'lrga eS, AMI the East had the power m
establish the federal numbers i'll the Senate. Eac,
therefore, had tie power 10 prevent the establishment.
Of the opposite basis ia the other branch. He wish.
ID that re was sure we have majority as 10 Inc n,
is IN the lower House, fo be hld heard that some q
he forty nlac had only voted tor it with view T.,
yivc din rent basis to the different Houses II.
hen 'icWcd the relative proportions Of the white pom
!ation East and West Of ne Blue R.dyc He hcid
islsclI pos csscd of power from his Constituents
: to agree "a the basis now asked. We had boon
oId " TEL e.D!e consequences which would result fr,p
he rising ~ tLi5 Convention without danr any ti;nu
le did not h:i'evc that the Consequences could hc
'Orsc than II we accept tins COMPROMISE, or than IL
DC other side should make government CONTRARY 10
lie wishes o! the people Tnc second alternative ,,.
esult Ill different way from the third. We shall
y taking the second alternatives he placed bv our
wa choice under government which! we disapnrove
suppose We come 10 no decision aud return orace,
" home, & arc still under agOvcrnmc!., whchvc do
10: approve less hostile would be oir cc!Iugs TO h,,
tate of things than to the other He wa{ ,uc,incJ
o favor the alternative which wodil il,c Us TO 90
lOne without doing any thing, than To- 90 home n
irving oar own assent to prac,.ition of li;,rt,In
uch as we have hitherto condemned.
Looking TO the increase of population in tlc (Vo,,
although We cannot take the basis OF the Aud,,or
statement for our calCulatIons we NAV come In ,o
Thing like correct results. That we have no moro
certain data to 90 upon, is owing TO the General A.
5embly aud not To ourselves In saying TIN, he conlt
not be SUSTAINED BY his constituents in niyip,, ti
federal numbers 20 tho Senate he did not know tI.,
he would BE- sustained by all has colleagues He could
not promise that his constituents would accent surb
clause, although he should advise them tn do 50 ic
W tlNH nv Nlilte oasis Tor the House Of Drpuutc,
and the federal numbers in the Senate tho ,oo,,l
may be induced 10 accept the Constitution. '''
Mr.. RANDoLPH said II was with equally uur,ic,
eli salts acton and surprise that lie saw the ,,n,lo
man who had taken his seat, was at lcng,b so
far reconclIed TO the old constitutions arainst ,I,
he had wagcd such unicigncd war until tins day
he cl' equal surprise and satisaction that the ron
teman had found out that we could live happily IN
der thus good old constitution. The g,ntleLa an az
ter having discovered ~ u all that WINS had an, l
ushad looked AZ II through his solar incrosc,f,.
yerted his glass and discovered TINT u was spor nc
he might live with md live under But ne sajd thar
1t should not be by a vote Of his. that n syslc.,
should be imposed on The constituents oc,iS ,,c,'
ticnan against their consent lie thrnkcd the pcn-
iletnan l"r has concliiaiiug manner. durinr Nh, dc
bate. II" would now cay, that he if tn, other sid,
should succeed IN putting him the white b,eis If
the House Of Delegates, he would yield tn h,u tEo
other branch He WIS for no Manken princinlo Of
good and evil spirit the evil would be gure tn NO.
vail. he could therefore toll the gentleman liza,
II the West yanquIshcd ~ tho House Of DoIcoa,c,
hp would give th"Iu his vote Tor ths white basis a.
the Scnrtr. lie would rather do so. than takc
any iJllYclOuE grCurttv. iN v+,.tlJ ..,I...-