Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1829-11-26


collect the ballots count them and ASCERTAIN and report
the result. All gentlemen know the difference In time
between merely eating the yeas and nays. aud con-
Quoting an election by ballot. The Clsrk.hip Of the
House OF Delegates 10 Office Of great prst and Of
yet greater trust and honour. eau see no around Of
discrimination between an election IN the House Of De-
ieEstss and an election elsew here. But wi
this view that rose. bat merely 10 ,in.,csta what
so"'dsr a' In common courtesy, the right Ut the gem
em.n from Dinwiddie; could justify i, to my.
o OIL r such an act OF rudsn-ss aud guilty to that
sedtsman. as 10 refuse the leave no has requested
MI CLAYTON Unclaimed all intention Of Offering
any rude"e's or ndisni'y to the gentleman from Din
widdis Oh the coutrary, the course he had or giuay
chosen was TIE very ONE Ponts by the gentleman
from Charlotte. (Mr. Randolph He did not rise to
prolony the debA'' but ouy TO indicate his
The CHAN said. he hal no, understood tn. gentle.
man from ChArio's a. having any personal ausoh in
his remarks.
Mr.. X. dsclAimed il entirely
Mr. JOHNSON explained bunsef IL inte n,linx 10 70.
iuse no courtesy to tn: gentleman; but as having
ders'ood this ~ the mode OF Gyn. the question, whs
Their the el'use should ts,han or be stricken out.
Alter some farther espanst'cn, the question: a. tax
on on granting leave, and c.riisd-Ayes so.
ME- CLArroR now moved 10 r-ins,ate the clause
$50 az 10 I'ave dscreonary with the Lexislature to
vote for heir own officers. by b.Io, or vipd soee)
Ana the question being taken; the votes counted by
inc Chair stood, ayes H. A. but the Chair fearing
some naccuracy in the couat appointed tellers: and
iea the vote appeared ayes -, 49, So the Com
mtee refused to re-nstate the clauscthereby requr-
Ing all elections to be held yipd roee.
The Committee then proceeded the 9th Resolution
WHICH reads as follows:
Resolved, That man shall be compelled to fire..
qusnt or support any religious worship place. or min.
sry whatsoever; shall be enforced, restrained mo.
ested or burthcncd in his body goods nor shall 9TH
suher on account OF his religious opinions be-
hef; but that all men shall be free profess and by
argument to maintain their opinions in matters of rel
gion and that the same shall in wise diminish en-
large, or affect their civil capacities.
Mr. BRoDNAx explained this be literal erjpt
from the celebrated act drawn by Mr.. Jefferson and
passed in 1855, for the freedom of religion.
He moved to amend tho resolution by adding 10 the
i member Of clause. declaring ell persons " no dis.
believed in God future state Of re wards an, nus,
hmen' As incapable Of being received wne ia
any Court OF Law in the Common W slth He did M,
himself consider such clause absolutely necessary
the same thing virtually included in the Re
or not c"ntradcted by it but it beet 10 add tbs
cbuse by way of caution.
Ca tho 'ngg eson-- Of Mr.. Randolph, Mr.. Brodn.x
Withdrew the amendncnt.
Mr.. Cooks moved TO amend the second member of
The RESOLUTION by striking ont the Provi.o (Which dis,
ture)
Mr.. DoDDRIDGE was in favour Of the motion. He
I"'sPnroved the election Of Ministers to Legislative
oo'y as much ~ most men; but he would not vote "a
prevent the People from making whom they would the
delegate TO their own hall Of legislation He consider
ed tie exclusion as at with the principle Of the
whole resolution: which allowed mon to ya,e the
religious opinions free from all political consequences
but the language Of this ProvisU was-unless thew ut
tered them IN the pulpit then they nusbs di,r anchis
oil.
Mr. BRoDNAI ,aid the gentleman from Brooke h.t
mi ph
vent their opinions every where. and any where bu
In that Hall. The gentleman from Brooke was com.
monty very felictous in appealing to The example Of
other States, and sometimes carried that appeal farther
than he was disposed follow him. He believed ali
The States in the Union, went to the extent OF
1his ,e'oIut"n' and many of them much farther.
In tho new Constitution Of NeW-york, which
had been Iugsed iu-(He begged parion-which
mad been brought in most gracefully into th. debate
office whatever Mr. b discaiped all want of re soec,
Tor The clergy, either personally, in their cercs
capacity; but there wasa proper place for them; aud
that place not in the Legislative Hall He enter.
TIMED, indeed. no fear a union of Church and
State in this country. The fears our fore he
believed were we'll founded: but the progress Of time
anu the division OF the Church into four ve or six he
might almost say into four. tive or six thousand dder
ent fragments, rendered that danger nugaiory Tbi.
wa: TIE host and strongest Of all guards on that
SUBJECT but there were numerous reasons wbic,
forbade the appearance Of Ministers Of the Gospel in
The political arena: II totally inconsistent with
Their sacerdOial Habit. and every mower
their mind ought be- and no was. TUNED In
different and opposite direction from temporal Iegi.,
uon' He advested to the influence (not consciously
ndu'ged oil sectaran Attachments and operation on
all questions where the interests of sect wh.n irec,
'y or indirectly involved and the of n,,;.,.
over the numerous individuals attached him-bo,h OF
which were foreign to impartial egisIaon on his p,r,
or impartial judd me Mt OH theirs
Mr. DoDpRIDoE assured the gentle man from Din.
w'dir that he did know the difference between Pull
p" ana Hall OF Notwithstanding seen both more
nan once. But he still insisted his former around
ne Resolution declared that mans religious opinions
sh not HHcct ms civil capacities but the Proyiso de-
ares, that Al those opinions uttered i'm the pulpit
inc utterance OF them shall affect his civil capacite,
even 10 ACKNOWLEDGMENT. At the polls he should pro
baby act with the gentleman; why tie u, the h.nds
! of the People? - ~ ~ ~
Mr. COOKE considered il as at war with the ,vbol,
spirit oil our institutions, to disanchse an entire s.,
o our citizens, without any good reason assigned
too, which he considered the most yirt,os and eff
cient in the Community. He nssted on the objection
urged by Mr. DoDDRiDeK.
MT. CoALrER said, thstit precisely because ba
at ha h.I..
hen to be, that he against striking out the provi
OF TINS world: he had commanded his servants 70 rep.r
nn'o Cesar the things which are Cs.,ry and unto
"oi the things which Gods. He had been him
sell wiiaE to have nothing do with politcs and hi.
He. " Wv WIN" "s'h '"sh
| Mr.. BNouNAI, in reply to Mr. DoppRrpo, and
W.T. CookE, observed, that Proviso, lie, OF course
omething which involves dscrepSncy and efcentio,
u might 10 de-n-d very sinful in him 10 wish IN .x
c"n7 ministers, but he found himself at any rate in
very COOL company The exclusion wa, carried v-,
further than this by the old Constitution of Virgins,
lie called II the old Constitution: he knew II va.
spoken OF very commonly with great contemn,.
Irnu perhaps he ought 10 bsg pardon for enonug i,
al all but this Oil Constitution had been formed bv
men, not hall so wise, 10 be sure, ss thew (becau.s
d. The Committee had been informed by the g-ntI,
"dn IRON Chesterfield, sons were always, and oi
course wiser than ihs!r f4tIersD but BIZ men 70 bo
nhu some Mule reputation in their day: and those
men had ssid that ministers should not be ,li,bI. a.
members OF the Governors Council He knew ,b.t
The act on Religious Freedom wis no part of IN. Cos,
sutuion but had Received universe. sanction from In,
people OF Virginia " Wv
| But Kentucky, Tennessee. and New York ,,h;i.