Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-11-28

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an increase OF expenditure lnst be the result of nm
increase OF the number of the Senate. lie hoped
there would be 10 div rsity of opinions on this
IL nad osen aifcady said that the Senate was derri.
yea OF the power to originate bile, or schemes Of
hnance and this leaves them suHicen. time ioy doi;h
efa',rn AID digestion. Here then we have souefhn,
Oy WITCH to demonstrate that the Senate t.berates
more than the House of Delegates, and ,r,. bors,
found It to be 80. An augmentation of the npnhe,
woult be productive of an increased ,.,,snJ,
ooth on account of he addition to the present numbe,
and OF the engthening OF the Session He bonoS
tnat his amendment would be favouraby eceived hy
the committee -St'so W
Mr. LEIGH in rising to address the Chair. said ,ha,
ao "ouiu not enter INTO any comparison between the
two propositions. Both of them were abhorren, to
MS ideas He desired different basis He mere.
~ INTENDED TO remark on the argument which bna
oeen used by the gentleman from Brooke in comnar-
ing IL WIN tne argument which the gentleman had
used IN the discussion OF the white l,as,s Tic 80
tleman now tells us that as the popplation -, ~
west increases, taxation will also increase that tho
slaves are increasing in the West in greater ratio
than IN the East, but that the increase Of power r.;
.ne w est would not be IN proportion Now he had
understood the other day. that considering the corsr
taken by the States of Ohio and Pennsylvania a.
the cause, slave property had not increased in rho
west. Ii there Is to be this increase of saves IN
the West, cannot the West obtain the power " hicn
emey wIsh ny taxation, in the Senate they woeld
surely have It in the House of Delegates He mjgb,
nave misunderstood the gentleman from BrooI,
ou' ne could not avoid considering his two arsrr
inents N opposition to each other.
aa. DoDnRip'E said he could not suppose his ar,
eun1ent on the basis Misrepresentation in The IHons
was az all torgotten The question in the disGnss;o,
was TINS, whether If the power was i'm The W.
there would not be danger of oppression to The s,o
.io.uei II, tne East To prove that there WIS no
Danger. he Showed the probability of the ;ncro.s, ~
slaves on the Western waters. With tb.sI.aN' "
ready there, and their natural increase There ,riS
De an increasing confidence in the East that thew bn
nothng ofinJury to themselves to appreNend Ri; nn
ne was proceeding to shew, however NAV be- Maj
pe Tess oppressed-for oppression would still bew. shoud
nave less 10 ear from the principle of taxation and nn
than from the federal numbers He begged TO b,
of the gentleman the presen, state Of the .ne "
lands from the head of Underwater to the ocean AZ 10
and Blue Ridge There is NO, n UI oet~esn tide
IN those parts of the State from any system Of
@ culture iheIe might be something gained by ircres
s'ency IN the arguments he had advanced He mad .d
the vast nums Of slaves on this side Tie Blue Ridge and ,h
Iauo OF increase conpared the ratio of
west How was possible for him to bring any ,hno ush
East pcs ~ "u'ease IN the
Dir LEIGH said this rather singular exp,an,,; .,
appeared 70 nun to be rather the nterposon of an
III the very short remarks which he had made He was havoc
however TO see that the gentleman from Brooke
me justice OF the argument which, when the oues,oo m ~,
he basis OF the House Of Delegates was before the Co go
he did not seem to understand so clearly as he dnes
d mat either OF the propositions would give vas, no,ea
h avon 20 .e West that as the white population io
creased tue est would by that element; and a, ne d.
value OF property, and consequently the taxation
y 'na element the West would gain that which ne en-
tieo Inc gentleman tells that while bsc. ayes - 81,
West are increasing quiet any reasonabe sa 81
East they are not increasing fast enough to eye TO the w.
iair share OF representation in the senate He eouI ~ -
mistaken IN the language, because wondered how d..
enan Could entertain such opinions We had been ,od H.
view Orleans was shut up against this property. thar IN on;
runaway slaves would be longer ENCOURAGED Tha, p mo
yWana mad changed her policy and that her slaves ,ht
hereafter find ready nlarke, in the Wes,er, - 80 ~ouu
b we sa'a 70 paciiy US fears on the suiec, ~
;oe m Oh sayH property in the East This was nm,
He would do the gentleman FINN p o,
INA. he intended ia other day deceive rhe Co
view of the 'e was giving IN The spirit and line of propecv
gentleman does not see any increase I'LL , a,
eua .he proportion, in which taxation and proper,u n
nc'ease or himself he perfectly Indifferent, ah;.h
the propositions Observation-Disclosures tn. dose Of m Q,
" swallow was mixed up in preserved cherry or rsr s
Looking only to the basis of the Sonata and NJ ,hs
House OF Delegates, he Indifferent which di.a % o, me
ou ne would not take the dose of arsenic He had cSns
The child tne ~ eve do,e OF oalonel the other day
- In, anew nothing OF oalomr but had the sapar;,,
see mar preserves were offered him at an unusual ,;1s -
se1e . sun" was MOI deceived and he could assure the
chlds father ' ou'' MOI deceive tie
ne increase OF the free ~heshad been continually held y,
20 We were oo mat there was intention to chatac,e,.s ne
as arstocras for taking course we have ,at gs
our measures are arisrocatic He stated ,ha, he
a Certain peculiarly OF taste, which rendered him ~
nary indifferent TO charges aristocracy made - &c 49,
htIca CHARGE but much sensitive when used to HE I Pc
application TO the public veal He did not mean m sv ,ba.
ne took offence but he peculiarly senive =, 'e'
cation OF the word le gentlemen on the o,be, S
him " apped IN any plausible FORM imputed 10
because he could 90 With them m e f
nn1 VIVA. they were pleased to the ndefeasbie in
is; e Isns Oh man. authorized by the laws of God ths
o OF hgn's &C; and that they find there il no r
nmss 10 DC found in any of the which they have
appen or any where esenow tina, they have found adv
sne to wrap up the arsenic pill they have all a, once a.
covered ina! here is nothing a,ocatc the course Of him
sell and his frends-nothing incompatible with repbIrs
principles and the rights of man. ~ 'eP'oicdo
ne called on gentlemen to him in open argument, and
20 SaeW now ana why could be aristocracal To has
ne senate on federal numbers than and nmbe
wtney 'e MN there difference in degree, There d
ueo IN degree but there difference in pTn
SPe-hone az all Are the gentlemen then for aris,ocrarv In
musns moderate degree this aris,ocracv n,
republican principles! This reminded him of the ro,,a s
tne argument the other day The gentlemen on the otr Side
"u Una, me representation Of property IN part was ars
oCdca WIN the exception Of the gentleman from Rlens,is
90 nun justice declared that this pr,ncpe in the IT, s.
government was just and proper Now turns out IN he o,
ars9crac to carry this principle the House of Dsegss
out mar II IS not aristocrac to carry into the Senate
ne would not deain the Committee now bv going ;,o IN.
discussion more fully bu: he might so hereafter nes. he
noua De anticipated by any gentleman Competent 10 do
justice 10 His idea was that the mixed basis IN the enas
was nothmsthat would be found incoInpecn, 10 confront
numbers IN the other branch in any degree He ny, Lera
diecue