Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-09

amptou. Mr. Upshur, is intended 10 Substitute It to
the combined rdtio which the foundation OF tina;
gentleman scheme, the proposition of the gentle.
man from Frederick, (Mr Cooke) winch Is to int r
dice white population exclusively the basis Of the
House OF Deega es, and white population and taxa
ZION combined AS the basis the Senate. This i.
the question new before the Committee. We are
engaged OH the subject Ofa compromises coInpru-
mise OF principles which neither willing To con-
ceui. ihe very term Compromise, implies mutual
concession. Some concession there must be, but
tnt qua OF concession by the Two parties. must
uepehu on cIrcuInstanceS,wh souiu BE- well conSi-
uered before we commit ourselves. M NJ remind
co them OF the State al parties III the Convention:
'hat OIL d former OCCASION, It was true the Western
members hhd carried their schcIne by nl4rity OF
TWO Vole5 but that the change OF n sInre r,euLcr,
and the change might be- easily brought abuut IN r,e
ch'Te o npinlon OF the member himself or the OK
preston oi different opinion III his district o which
Il" "Oeu.elcc % te republican doctrine of insTuctiun
ne WouiG DC bound to submit. would prudace un equal
DIVISION or tine whole body. The change OF Two MEM
ucFs would reverse Tie majority Ia the House and a
Sihi'!ar cIang1 was understood To be gong on
among the people To the East of the RIDE
None OF us can he certain That the result uI' the
question IN the House viii be ihr same II b, hoo,
Az ti,ls Committee. Let us decide one way or the
other, 1t the majority should b. SO small and Tn.
OPINIONS o. the Convention shall be nearly balanced
ti"fc WA be scarcely wight IN the recommen-
ua'ion OF INC Convention. The majority and minor
NY "hi have equal weight, aud the only weg N vii,
ne IN the proposition itself. IL 1t possible to COLI
ceai fFon ourselves, that the powerful arguments
the mn )Tity Conveyed u the r"ruip THROUGH the
press, and supported by The interest pt i tb, cu.s
ton on the sde Of the minority, may not produce
G'Iire Ia Conceal the fact. that n mart on The e,s
tern country aud that South of James river, there
arc interests Which must and viii be i;.it viii force
unless human nature shall ceuss to be what il has
hrcn IN al! uuc. II is impossible to say what ma y
bc the influence Of those interests abroad THOUGH
t'ey may exert no influence on the members of
TINS Convention. And II Is by no means car,o;n
I,tiu her .ie H..
ting gentlemen TO retain their theories theories which
they are perfectly honest III MAINTAINING still here
Is another theory equally republican with them viz
That 1t Is the duty OF representative 10 speak The.
WI of his constituents. ! can't say how far Tins
ri1y carry gentlemen. neither cusl VIC saw what Will
d" the ultimate decision. o.Eer of this house or OF
tn" peopic.
Taking this view of the state o. osrties :, g.
That comprn Mise To be just not only be muiu
a. nut equal also The Claims are the same OH both
bdeS; each ought TO cdncsde to the other all they de-
mand and thus meet on middle ground There can be
o nope that either par'y VIII Yield more than it get,
IN return. o.
Whs; is the middle Gsoundl oae party propose thai
'he House OF Delegates shalt be based upon white
population exclusively and the Senate on mixed RI
ito OF population and taxation on Federal numbers
me other prriy's proposition is that the white bash
anh The federal numbers shall be combined i'm on,
average rauo at the two, and that This ratio shall b
made the basis Of representation IN both houses -
ne last OF these two must be equal: all feel II IN n
equal 1.-THE two principles are combined rxactlv an
MADE the basis ot both houses IT. 10 euuti Der
ieetiy SO! IL the other equal I ask them
.ney THINK So The party in fsvou
ton mat there is 40 Inequality in the Proposltion-h~y
least mink Unequal How they acc,de TO a pr iposi
ton they firmly believe he uneluals d., Others ib;L !,
eGa'-'f they d. why not take what they offered 10 u.s.
ihey consent mat the Senate shall be founded on the mixed
basis aud the House OF Delegates on the white basis n mot
why noN there be only it is that the pronos,or
unequal II the Senate projects the cast does it not pro,ec
them 70 ~ - equal when by us to hen2 n il
equal no matter in which house it established If there i
any dlhcuty IS because is unequal # it is UNEQUAL
eau gentlemen believe that Inequality can be cnlaceP ono
ury 10 wish IL After TIC language 10 say the cas
ua'Sls hren used on both sides hail proposition for com
promise with much joy the inhabitants of tho nolar re-
s7rs nail the rising Of t,e absence Of six po,bs
rouS iuminary that gives gadue al' Yet must he 10
we 40 rot meet on equal ground II Do on the
mse equal 1t Is vain 10 hope that any compromise can be
Mr. MaRcrR said the same &C cd feelings with which
ne entered on the duties imposed upon him when he
came here, still remain uninpailed notUithstand;nc
the dcbde which he'd taken place the day before YES
trrday All asperitles hNd ceased, aud the feelings
winch were eyInced IN the proCcj dngs of Yesterday
produced b. the antecaGcnt debate had he bonod
now sub5lded He had listened with the greatest nos
site atteRion--and he might say with truth, with
sentiments OF la affection not surpassed b, the feel
lng@ which had bound HIN 10 parent long since re
turned TO the duS vet he WAS not able IN moo, bi
proposition Complete justice had not, he tbonght
been don 20 his side of the question In oolng over
the arguments of our opponents they all W, r. edu-
ced from tins principle that if equal 30 lions of REQ.
pic always possessed equal wealth, then numbers
would be far experiment Of political power But
IL "as said TINT could not be done ownp 20 tho no.
cnIiar condition 81 peculiar species Of properly
which was taxed for h" ordinary support OF govern
Incn,, and that therefore it required protection.
What was the course, he asked Of the Legislative
Committee IL was suggested by the venerable Pre-.
siden' OF II TO divide the vote, to.take the sense
Of the Committee OF each question. When the livi
on look place wc had majority on orr side and VIC
claimed the venerable head OF th body as 90 ho cues.
ton OF the bosls III the House vt REPRESENTATIVES,
ALOr TIC debate Of TIC question The House we ar
rived e. result Of n majority Of two in our favor
Cud'r these circumstances We rjrlt have ad1ptod
that rTn iplr aud having arranged the right Of sui
trlgc pTopus" al adjustment and have cent the whole
{, th people. Then We would have had a Senate
ba on who population TOR so it is bv the act Of
1916 and the House of Delegates on the same ioun
j lion The Instructions which had been sent from
Norfolk O. a member Of this body had been referred
to- but they countcracted 10y those sent to the
gcn'l man from Loudon. The majority acted with
moderation and torbCamncc, and he asked # IN con-
cGding the federal numbers as the blss of tic Sen
q @, spirit of cancellation WIS not CvncCd by U.s.
Tie ref rcd 10 the mode in which lac understood the
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