Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1829-01-24

whom ne acted; but he did no; wish 10 incorporate
any Objectionable feature, and withdrew the
anne ndment
Mr.. Gilliiand renewed il.
MIR. Miller of Powhatan, asked if gentlemen
were aware Of the effect Of what they were doing:
That they were excluding all members OF Congress
every person who held any appo n,inent under the
federal government, and almost oil who hei ST ne
appointments. lie objected strongly against such
sweeping exclusion, embracing, as il did such
hos, OF talents. How could gentlemen advocate
this measure and call themselves the friends OF he
people! lie should consider that he DEGRADED his
constituents, ii he told them they were only 10
elect such men as himself, or such ony az had hi
quahhcauons. But the people would disregard all
such restrictions, and seni those they preferred
ahS ihcre was no power that could prevent them.
Atr. Mayo supported the amendment. He
Thought there was talent enough in the country
without resorting 10 members oil Congress or 10
the Judges He commended that men who had an
interest In Keeping things as they are, such the
Judges had, ought TO be excluded. Reject the
amendment, s. you admit ministers of The Gospel,
He thought te present responsibility Of the Judi
CARY but name, one of the objects OF reform was
TO make them realty responsible; and i, would be
wrong TO submit that reformation 10 the m with all
their interests involved.
Mr Terri called all the friends OF ,Se
county system 10 vote out this amendments as it
produced divisions among them. lie had c.:~red
Il by request.
MIR. Harvie opposed The amendment 10 al
ways had been and was still opposed to Conven-
ton Eu he felt il his duty carry into effect the
will OF the people by calling Convention upon
tne plan that may be most acceptable to the
House. But if this amendment prevailed. he
should vote against the hill.
Alter few renorks fiom Mr. May, Mr.. Gill
land withdrew the amen mcn; but Air. Pitts in
sisted upon lis being votes, upon
MT may then made some remarks to show tina;
there was want of magnanimi,y in those who
wished to exclude from the Convention all but the
members OF The legislature or those with the same
quahcations; and suggested the propriety of also
excluding all the members Of the present Asse m
bly,.
Mr.. Parker, of n. repealed with warmth. the
insinuation which he thought had been made on the
motives of himself, and OF those he acted with
after some sharp shooting between Messrs. Par
Ker May, MIR. Parker expressed his determine
tion to vote against the amendment. Whilst he
thought il proper 10 exclude the Judges, he was
VIKING 10 trust the matter TO the people, He ex-
pressed ms surprise at the frank avowal of Mr.
Smith OF kanawha, OH the day before, that the en-
emies OF the county plan ought TO incorporate in
II some provision odious, TO make il miscarry
Row, MIR. p. assured that gentleman, and those
VINO wished to legislate on such principle, that
ping in this way. They were wide awake, and
meant to keep while the enemy was in the
Camp.
| Mir Newton made few remarks, going 10 shcw
,nat, impose what restriction you may, the people
would eject whom they pleased, and that the Con-
ven'on would judge OF the qua i6cations and cleo
tons Of their own members
Mr. Harvie called for the ayes s. noes.
mr Megsinson said, that he had voted for the
exclusion OF ncn-reeholders from voting on the
ground that the Convention had been called for on
~ by tbs irccholders; the non-reeholjers having
been quiet,see.n'd 10 be willing TO leave the ma
tiers TO the !reeho'ders 1t was to the freeholders
| the House had to look. He was opposed to any re-
strictfon. The power TO vote, implied the RICH, to
select, SC.
| The question was then taken and the amend
ment lost, Ayes 25, Noes III.
| Those who voted in the affirmative are
Messrs. Drummond, Goggin, Hill, Pitts. Gala
way, Smith OF Gloucester. Biliups Scott, Mayo,
| Upshaw OF King s. Queen, Allen of Lee.
NlMilian, Bland, Eilzey, Cross, Ta,um, Adams
| Walton, Barnes, Alexander of Russell M'Farlapd
OF Russell, Martin, Eppes, Inghram and Cum
mings.. %.
All the other members present voted in the neg.
| alive.
Mr.. Doddridge said that the inequality of rem.
resentaiion, growing out of the county and Boroug
system, had been the great evil always COM
pane d OF, and the House were then abou, to or
game convention upon the very principle ofthis
inequality-and thereby perpetuate il.
Mr. Gordon then offered the following amend
ment:
Be it declared, tina. the several counties OF thi,
commonwealth, whose white pop;. iatiou by the
census of 1920, was more than 5000 free white
persons, entitled TO AN additional Representa-
tive iii Convention, and that each county whici,
had white population of more than 5000 is fo4
every 1000 free white persons over 5000 entitled
to one representative in Convention, that is to say;
Monongalia. Ohio, Harrison, Washington, Berke-
ley, Jefferson, Hampshire. Rockbridge Botetc,Irt
Wythc, Norfolk county, Halifax Campbell, Frank
I'm, Bedford, Accomack Albemarle, Fauquer and
Cuipeper, one additional representative each; the
counties of Rockingham, Augusta. and Pittsyiya-
MIA to two additional, and the counties OF Fred
erick, Shenandoah and Loudoun Is three addition
al representatives each.
The operation of this anne ndment would be said
he, that 81 counties would haze one member each
~ worid have 2, three counties would have 8
and counties 4, each. In all Il3 me mbers only
81 members more then the number of counties
aud horoughs. The gain west of the Allegheny
Mountains, would be I, that of the valley is, and
that OF the country east OF the b. Ridge Is addition
al members. He said that there were upwards o
10 countieswhosc white population vas ,nderA0oD;
there were IS, under 5000. The average popula-
tioD Of the counties 5615; and the average
taxation was 5395S.-There were so counties be-
low the average Of population, and 65 who paid less
than The average OF taxation. This plan he said
would give majority of 81 east Of the ridge. Mr.
Gordon said he submitted this proposition 10 the
wisdom OF the House without argument, and call
ed for the ayes and noes.
The question was then iakcn--and Mr. Gordon's
proposition rejected, Ayes I0l Noes l02.
Those who voted in the affirmative are
Messrs. Bayley, Drummond, Gordon, Nelson,
Ellis, Duncan, Clarke, Tapp, Goggin, Boyd, Ward,
Miller Of Bot Dcddrdge, Edgington, Thornburg,
Everett, Rves of c., Hunter, Gaines Hill,
Moss, Chiffon, Wallace, Stillman, VIM Of Flu
wanna, Holland, Galloway, Pack, Pearls, Bryce
jr., Hail. Blair, Mclaughlin Of Greenbrier, Smith
OF Grecnbricr. Kercbeva jr., Carskadon, Seymour,
Mullen, Brown of Harrison, Williams, Mayo,
Harvie, Dyer, Morgan, Willis, Smith OF Kandw-
h1, Dunbar, Allen Of Lee, M'AIian, Bland, Cam
dens Dingess, Strotton Ellzey, Powell OF Lou
doun, M'Culloch, Stribiing, Waite, Wilson, Ca