Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-10


pr, sentation in the House of Dele rates on tie
naSis vi white population, and in the Senate on that
of The federal number-and all future enumeratinus
for the purposes ofapportionment, may be made ei-
Their under the laws vi this State or those of the u
States at the discretion of the General Assembly
ana Whenever new superintendent OF representa-
ton shall be made. there shall be new assessment
OF taxes in each State"
Ia giving his reasons for MOVING this substitute
Mr.. DoppRipGE said that his assent TO the Federal
number basis fur the Senate was Uiven ON the
hypothesis that the white basis should be adopted
for the House of Delegates. This was the last STEM
he could take with u view 20 COMPROMISED
Ills objection to The scheme of Mr.. GoRDoS arose
from ITS containing no plan for any future apportion-
nent OF Representations. Unless they could agree
to Constitution which should cars. renres.ntn,on
to graduate itself according to some inst DrncipIe
mutually agreed upon. they had hotter do nothing at
all: Constitution without this Torture would crcare
more dissatisfaction than existed at present He was
fully confident that the West would accept nothing
short of he white basis in the House of Deerotcs NJ
least; he believed they might consent with some una
.i'nity 10 that us compromise. He declared for
thnse and tor himself alone, that he should deter
tfNne between this day aud Tuesday next whether
he could farther his constituents by remaining
mere any longer.
| air. LEIGH rose to express his sense of what was
The true amount OF Mr. Doddrdge's amendment Mr.
GordonS plan of distributing the representation vas
based substantially the white popuat ion as exh,
bted By the census OF 32U-thorgh not actually so
III all the details, but throwing fractions out of view
Is IN TACT the basis Of white population according TO
that census Now, said Mr.. l.. the gentleman ON
Brooke taking the census of 1920, and havinp res
pect to the white population exclusively. demands
that this slaiibe established as Il rule for all future
time, as tn the basis ofthe House of Delegates 1t
Is therefore, PR csey the question We haze
been discussing for long time: il is broanh, for
Ward again, and viii, suppose, TO repeated until
the repetition shall be considered horcl.s and then
the gentleman tells Us he shall determine whether
la go home or not Arc we TO understand this as a
menace, that tho western members will seccdc in n
body? Such an idea has been suggest ell out OF doors
are we To understand it as threatened here,
Mr. DoDDRIDGE fiockng towards the r,nort,r !
nope my words will be rcrnembrred:-i said TINT
speaking for myself, and myself alone should de-
tcFIne whether could he of any farther service To
my constituents by remaining longer here.
Sir. LEIGH II the gentleman shall sccede him
self alone, why then we shall carry our pruposi,ion
aW not now To understand him as threo tcp;r, n
secession of the West. II we ure to remain toofb
er, then the gentleman is TO be understood as so VIM
that they viii stud tirn, and not advance. nnoi her
step.
Let me address one word TO the representatives of
my western icow-czeiis. (or they are iry fellow
citaens' ana 1t Is my wish hat they NAV lonr re-
main so; all We ask Is represent alton O. those in
tcrcsts which we hold, and which they do not. b,,,
II there Is to be the smallest Infusion of such nrn
clple, then they say chat the West will not adoD,
such system. What does this provc2 That their
attachment 10 us Is not equal hat of the Northnrn
Suites towards their Southern brethren. tbnv do mo-,
ieel any thing like SO warm regard to union wit Il
us, as the States Of the Nor;, did to rnio Wi. l.
t,iose OF lie South Ioi what is the fact? when
the CONSTITUTION OF the u. 5. was adopcd This yor,
conflict took place: the same claim was nd,,ans
the South us is advanced by u.s. and il mt Ky
same objections as are now urged by the gentlemen
The Federal Convention rccommcn5o, , u,
promise. The great objection was that The nrono-
sed Constitution gave too much to the South vet
their attachment to their Southern fellowci,zcns
ovcrcamc all objections und the comnrnnisn ,p,. ar
rI,yn
their attachment to us is so feeble and their CON
cern Tor union 9" small that they willing to sac
rihce all tor mere theoretical opinion Are we TO
take this as their uIiniatumI?-Are we to und,r
stand that unless give them and rive them ;n,,ns
dIate'y. complete power our persons and pro.
perry, they wish 10 farther connection with us, T
can understand 1t III no other way. To me it is
most painful to hear such language They will
give up all connection with US, unless we Weld them
all that they ask. '''0" -
Mr. DoDDRIDGE replied. We have Iorg AFRO had
the uH,n'atuns of the gentleman from Chesterfield
(Mr. Leigh,) and few DAVIS since we had tho ,,ui
mat'D. of the gentleman from Charlotte, INT. Ran
doiph) They have both announced to us that ,hov
never will yield tic white bass in the Uouee
of Delegates.
Mr.. RANDOLPH here said the gentleman :; NOV
feet rlght-perfcctly righi-wc never will ! ihofgb,
was not mistaken. We'll, them now saw that T
can 60 no farther. THIS is my uitin,ut,,1,. IPnoi
ther OF us are to yield, future discussion can end in
no good result. They will re-ornanize tIe 49,, ~
aud West differently from what it now is; but tho
will still leave the West to be efcctualy and abfo
lutcly governed by The East, and they will enrrat
no provision 10 meet our future growth in popula-
ton now address myself to tie representatives.
from the West, and say to thern-wc have nov
III House Of two hundred and fourteen, ciobtv
Delegates. Inc total white population of the State
1'pS ooL'ooO, ana the w est containing 81 600 of
that number, it is entitled, on equitable princn,e,
70 one hundred delegates. We now therefore. lose
20 OF our fair proportion of representation. But
whol shall we lose it these propositions succeeds-
ACCORDING to the plan OF the gentleman from Ches
terhcld, mir. Leigh are TO lose IS: accoTJ;n,
10 Unit OF the gentleman from Norllratnpton fNIS
Upsurl we arc to lose 21 and according TO hat If
.ne gentleman from AIbeHorc (Mr. Gordon) we arc
10 lose -. We ought to have more represen,ntion
t'ian we have now: this IS grievance: and do the
remedy IT. No, not at all; they increase it. Thoy
new control us and they continue TO control
ther Convention. There s no none for 10 ,,i
we settle the rnattcr now. There can he ,o nod