Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1829-12-03

:, End or Valley District
Mr.. Gord'n's % members
MIR. Upshurs 22 do
SRI or Middle D.,ric.
Mr.. Upshur's SO do
! t., 4ih or Tide Water District.
Mr. G,rdon's 81 member.
IMr. Upshur's 81 do
Mr.. Gordon's 80 W. Of the Blue Ridge.
! 10 L OF 40
Mr.. Up'hur'' AZ ". Of the Blue Ridge.
+ IL r. OF do
Mr., Gordon. lSr"s srsAyn 49, n,
Mr.. Upshurs rs W. Of the Blue Ridge.
MT U: said that another difference between his plan
anu MT. IoRpoNs, was,that Mr.. G. made provision
'or 'uure apportionments, but his plan did, The
ehece OF Tue ratios would be that the East had all 10
o'e anu noth ny to GAIN while the West had all gain
sa' no,hhg to lose On tho first ratio Consisting
OF white popu'at'on, this was manifest, because
that population was nearly stationary in the East,
Ou' increa ing with rapidity in the West. The same
was the case with the second ratio Consisting of hitc
population taxation combined Tbs East was taxed a.
highly as II probably would be- but the taxable pro-
perry ia ts West was fast increasing The increase
wn'es being nclu' ii in this ratio, well a. In the
ias' u was reckoned twice to the West A, TO the
mira ratio oil Federal numbers the East had probably
" many slaves at present "a II was likely TO have for
years 10 coma, while genlen stated hat slaves were
Increasing RAPIDLY to the Westward II il should be
sai That the East would lerve dohie advantage in
iuure superintendent, by counting the TAXATION and the
same TAX lbio. again. this difficulty obviaed by the
pano Mr. LEIGH TO which he willing TO accede.
II wouii MT be strenuous "a TO having the House Of
Dtiegaes consist OF 100 members, and the Senate of
~ but he thought, less than 30 would not answer in
Senate Tor so extended Common eaih provided hey
were elected by the people: hut il by electors
~, or even 20 might be suif Gent Mr. u pro, -sed
The most od,ting spirit, and even sai that for
hnseliher we two other plans which he sho pre-
er bu' he offered this in the hope OF citing the wishes
OIL oiherS lie considered The scheme highly favorable
TO the west; but western gentlemen ht
hey Could vote il down. lie any principle could he
hxed upon, which would suit the views OF the conrnu-
niy, II was maniiesty desirable that il should be aop
Ell as basis for both houses, they re more likely
10 act Ia harmony under such circun Stances than il
arganh-d on different aud art'gonis, principles. MIR
v. insisted on the fairness OF tins sCheIn a. proposi-
ton Tor compromise. In adopting il, no ne could saw
that they had conceded more IN others and got less
such compromise as conceded Only what could have
oeen go ten without any, such dill in the least
weaken what reminsd alter the concession was made
was unworthy OF the name. Such compromise a.
would carry peace TO the people, be effected by
mutual Surrender OF something which each party thinks
gAt but which they surrender for peace sake and the
surrender must be nearly if not exactly equal In such
case, who could be ensured? each gets much as he
gives each gets something of the principles for which ne
commended, and each surrenders something of them In
the scheme he proposed, all the parties of the Hou,e,
were brought together and the would be an aver
age oil The powers Claimed by the several parts OF the
Commonwealth.
Mr.. MooRE of Rockbrilge, rose 10 say a few words
IN explain 'ton oil the course he intended take When
he last addressed the Committee he had expressed his
daprroba,ion OF proposition ose by gentle man
rom Loud n and since presented in substance by the
gentleman from Goochldnd. being the as had since
been offered by the gentleman from Frederick (AIr
Cooked He had then been opposed TO all compromise
and hal so declared himself, because he believed tina,
the east was not entitled TO any aon of pro-
perry as oil rgh', nor az protection, and because he
was convinced that the principle of the white basis was
laid down in the Bill OF Rights He had no, changed
his opinion: hut he was willing 10 do what he had
not been willing 10 do then.
However satisfied he mis hit be OF the recttuie of
hi. opinion. he considered that much was due to
~ hO actin with A
something also to the fears and prejpdces of gentle
men on the other side; and st weghiier con,idera
ton with him was this: tn At his constituents were will
Ing to make sacrifice on the altar of peace. These
considerations alone induced him to vote for any com
promise He was opposed all the proscts, and If he
voted Tor any IL would be purely from split Of concil-
iaion. Gentlemen had talked much Of the uiyied-
ing spirit OF the West, themselves being very willing
to yield TO compromise; provided they my Tx i,
point exactly 10 suit themselves. Ii neighbour OF his
had lang been in the unrightu possession OF his farm
ani he came 10 demand his own, the wrong does no,
oler him a compromise, hu, ii woul.l be to give up
III That he owed him for the of the property
nan stole his horse, and then offered 10 COM
promise on con liton that he would give up the horse
and the saddle TO boot. Jus such he held
HE proposition OF the gentleman from FAuque-, (Mr.
Sco't) OF the gentleman from ,r,humberlani, (Mr.
Upshur) aud Of the gentleman from Culpeper, (Alr.
Green)
He opposed 10 the proposition now before the
COMMITTEES: When he fire., heard il. he was a-lonished
that The gentleman proposed TO give so large number
OF Senators to the Western District, hut when he
to hnd that that number msds up by taxing frac.
tons tram other districts, he found be the effect of
force. He had been astoniShcd ni that the Vast was
TO get more 10y the plan OF the gentle from North
ampton, who makes average of three ratios Than by
that Of the gentleman from CHESTERFIELD. who gives an
average OF two only
Mr. Leigh explained. There was no discrepancy
between them, except as 10 the number Of the House
OF Delegates. Mr.. l. allowed a greater ratio of in
crease in the West than in the East. This the on.
~ difference between his plan AID that OF NJ. MAR
SHALL.
Mr. MOORE replied that let the dill .rence arise as
IL might, both principles such he coalJ never
assent 10. There objection, the face Of Mr.
Us plan IL did not allow Tor increase Tor the West,
but COX rare to provide that let ihit increase be
what 1t might, majority might still remain
OF the Ridge. MIR. NJ. declared that the only pro-
position hc would ascent to, that of tue federal
numbers in the Senate and the white basis in the House
Of Delegates He had voted against the mixed basis
tn the Senate, because lie had been sposcd in
fair spirit Of compromise, but farther he woui
go Nor dill hc TO be understood prdging him
sell TO 20 thus lar at the polls when the Con$u
lion should be voted Tor. lie wished first to know tie
will ol@ compliments. The gentleman the head of the
judiciary Committee (Nir VI ARsgA LL) had expressed
his desire to vote for proposition which would
with the ptsnce of the people of the Comnonwea
III that was the gentienans wish, he hoped he would
VOC Tor the prop ,itOn OF the gentleman from Freder
TX (M CooKE;) Tor he could him tina; the PEG.
pie OF the West would adopt and never would
submit TO any such proposon that OF the gentleman
from Chesterfield, (Mr. LEIGH) and in his opinion
they never ought to submit To it, The language Of
such a compromise WA, ct us the grounds when
we are willing 10 meet, will break up and do
no thing ~ 10 the proposition Of the gent from Stat
rs by FAR thaa he had heard OF since the treaty
Of Client. Some OF ibem sine qua mons with him
The gentleman had bpasted Of his otch Irish blood;
here WAS OF tina, blood in his veins and he