Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-10-29

VIII soop give way 60 better state Of mind. Pro.
perty cannot be invaded OH this side of tho min
lnd there can be no general law passed, offensive TO
one section winch will not To greater extent nu.
riously affect the other We have heard of qua am
tees against the abuse OF power. He knew of no
adequate guarantee but that which was to be found i'm
rcpre sentation. The proposition of the committee
provides only Tor the representation of property the
Senate and in few years there would be danger of
us being entirely unrepreseutud. lie regretted that
no had detained the committee with his crude rks
Ills object to present the important facts he had
communicated.
Mr. CAMPBELL tot Broukc) said that he did no,
rise nor was 1t his purpose to make speech. His
intention merely to call the attention of the COM
inttee to point OF orderO tie thought they had dc
waited from what he considered be The course which
order pointed out. lfhe was Judge from the mea-
ing winch the term order convcyt H. he feared very
much that gentlemen had departed from it, and ii we
depart from that grand prncipc OF order by which Il
things in nature were governed, which is heaven S
Erst law, could expect no other result frc, our do
parture Than confusion and darkness.
Yesterday the order oil day was the DEVELOPMENT
OF some fundamental prnciples--:he rurniication
and details of which we to dispose of when
these had been settled, or established The ob,ect
was TO lay down some fundamental doct riies--, ~
place thcm-ii may be permitted TO use the term
as the S15 basis of the fundamental law of the coun
try.
There were very intcrost sting remarks oirred
yesterday, by gcntlcmen the subject OF p.incplc
ana 1t was afterwards suggested, that it was out of
0rdcr 10 enter upon tue consideration OF these alb
De- cd Inv
principles. lie knew nothing of what was calIed
u princIplc which was not in itself an abs,rncinn
they were all abstract ideas. Every Fundamental
prnclpie IN ever science under aven, YVES nothing
else put an abstraction. What Is the idea OF rood
ness OF truth, or of Justice, but an abstrac;ionP II
tcre he any fundamental principles OF Justice they
must be abstract ideas. He would review the arpn-
mcnts which were Yesterday offered II wns 60; ,
To De nrNpcdiont to discuss NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS..
practice irrespective of prncipeson the around 81
their being distractions, 0md until we had gone into
details-whici were not u6slractiors. We were
thea in confusion.
II was next :cicnusd iaLc up tho report Of the legislative
Committed When that report beioe Us AN amrninlrn,
was offered hat amendment threw tho roland, ON the
gentleman who offered it When we mot his prn,nr ,ha,
question was SUI pending After The abandonment Of the
proof the gentleman Culpee iAlr Grecm) dscied fur
nshnS any He seemed to forget the proban
'cr"tDi' 4VWGh pui the gentleman hom Cupcper being
IN dicu,y, called upon statement of our r and
hereby threw the weight Of proof those holding the negn
I'VE lac question ~ ae these words TO b, added nitro
dGced As an amendment TO the first resolution of the
l"ey mold The affirmative and we the negative Now
upon It's To furnish documents or arguments why these
wo!ds should not be added great an abea,ionE c v
9 paINane:iia Gaee-as vas yesterday tho abandonment,
lie rose to suggest thai should either ndop, the p,inc
contained IA tetB Declaration Of Rights as canoncal and
De anelted-or gentlemen dscned them altore Ici
mem submit others 10 tho Committee. Let submit some
ar".t tf!0FIeS ON which we can Hereafter base our
arguments aud instead Of calling upon discuss prnces
which we have already refused discuss hen submit er
propositions to numerically arranged The order Of YES
'Iyay was ssI no P5inePies-that of to-day proofs
COMMITTEE At this time his question before ,ho,
fon the backwarncss which gentlemen on the other sEjs
surprise, IN consequence OF the unexpected progress NJ dr.
debate and were not prepared upon tic discussion
for gentlemen sides TO take ii up alternately PS
SuSr Tou.d DC and the question would be fully
sf ?''1 e''e - PrePs' lac would that Comitlee
Mr. MERGER requested the gentleman who had Jus, sal
no"n 10 Withdraw his notion that he might Offer !e, expla.
NJ uPsHUR consented and
Mr. MERCER said that he could speak for others as ~
their preparation 10 argue the question: no could
say That Tho presumption OF the gentleman no mundao
ne r pshuT says that we prepared erly Now
san MT NJ an perfectly willing to Let tie question res, on
the :; a rg 3; p: which NC have heard
Nr CfoiOK sad The gentleman from Loudoun had isur.
Ierson MN lie lr took for granted that every gen.
.cnan was i"y possessed of Information this subject TO
ever suit their view go discussion now Ills obc,
was 10 induce alternate discussion That would be the ir
principles could be better discussed He hoped II rcn,c.n
were not prepared, that hc Committee would now rise lie
woI Ieney his motion TO That effect but he should Immediately
",ndiaw II any gentleman wished speak
MIR MERCER replied, tina; the gentlemen on tire ohe, s;do
orter 10 pass on tn another resolution waste he red
me day We are ready to 90 into the discussion.
was decided in the negative 'N" ''''' 1"'
Judge UPSHUR then rose to address the Chair.
lie could not say that he had been driven into The
discussion without SOME preparation, but hc miyIt
DC permitted to declare that he did not an,cipaic
MAT he Should thus early, be called on to prcsou hs
views TO the Committee. The few simple IDEAS
require iaooured preparation of any sort; bat il
Woud al least have been agreeable To his feel
ings bud he not been unexpectedly pressed into the
debate. ~
There secns to oxist some difference IF ori,;o,
among us as 10 the party from which the first
on tins subject ought to nave emanated Whcthef
the friends or tho foes Of the particular. r1pn!
sure before W, were bound to omen Tho JcLoto
" did not appear 10 be of the slightest importance
70 INN what course was pursued in this respect but
he thought il would conduce to the ehlcidnton of
the subject, that each party should be heard in turn
ana nc hoped That each would be heard with atton
ton, and answered in spirit Of kindness and respect
lie had brouEhi with him 10 this Conventions no fec
nag ofIocal parlialiy, OF local prejudice lie came
h!tHeT oS representative Oft whole State of yir-
gllla' ana not OF any piTticular district. He came
Wth sincere desire TO contribute with all his mind
10 TX The now government HAT basis which
would De best Tor Tic whole, g. not for particular
t'ons OF ING state. With this feeling he had blended
another, which the result of hi best rcacct;os
and which he had hoped % make the o,niJo oc lie