Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-05
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thought 1t right 20 forward to suggest the
eaus 20 bring To copclusop this interesting cues
ton. He would not despuir of happy result:
but was more than ever inclined to hope that tho Ia
bors of this Convention would ut lust be brought to
successful termination, and that we shall not be
cdmpclled t" break up in confusion, and carry the
spirit OF dlscord with us from this assembly
constituents, and to the country.
IL had been said by the gentleman from Richmond
t'ndSc Narshail that what appeared to be the most
material point of difference was, whether the two
branches OF the Legislature shall he based differ
ent principles, whether they shall be based the
same principle, which certainly the operations Of the
two, should make the basis OF both the same. II
was our duty to examine the operation of each of
these principles. He did not rise now for the pur-
pose OF expressing his preference for either of the
propositions. II IS not now the time to 20 into that
question. But he rose to say that there is another
point naturally to be considered which seems to dis
tlnGulsh these propositions. On side it was III
tended To provide constitutional rule to povcrn the
superintendent of representation hereafter In the
propositions OF the gentleman from Northampton
ai! Chesterfield, view is had to subsequent chm
ges III the representation according the relative
S,fcirS n OF the population i'll the various districts.
II becomes us to enquire, when come to agree as
toa rule to fix representation for the present dny
Whe'her " has not these characteristics of simplicity
for pracl!cal use, which enable us tn adont it NJ
guide for future time. This ought to enter into
our minds when we are nyaged in the consideration
otthc subject.
lie roSeto correct n!sconccption which seemed
70 prevail as to the feeling IN which the compromise
o. his friend from Frederick (AIf Cooked had been
told the Committee that the compromise therein
contained had employed the anxious labor of
nose VINO represented the interests of the Yves
tern, aud Middle districts of the State II was tho
tesi OF that anxious aud careful IL was mistake 10
s'e that any who bent his inquiries this proposition
pledged here elsewhere to sustain it, He ,, himself
pledged by his duty himself constituents to
r Ganady every proposition which may offered and to
take the best This the understanding which he a:,ed
heneve gentlemen could shew him scheue would
once abandon that which he had previously cherished and
ceaye 10 mat which was best He thought pertinent
we should consider matters way would he likely to
osu oa IN making majority OF one two but majority
escni as to refer the propositions Select
Whole from the further consideration the proportions aud
tcc Lcn with the estimate of ratios, by the GEN
ven members ~
dr LrioH said the character of the report made would
thought no o:ier result, could a emu h ,nSe on ae Other ne
aSan lie was rejoced TO hear the gentleman from Augusta
say ne was not pledged to any particular pan
glad, the gentleman from Ender mi
o~e call on his friends stand firm, order as he under
stood the gentleman force these measures He
Sa had not stood firm he had given way and he feared he
mao yleiden more than would be sanctioned by constituents
Mir PowElL explain He had not said nor intended
any 9 6 on rs, SIDE were pledged not
ne nen was 70 warn Them after deliberately adopting their
opinions, not to be diverted from them.
MIR LICK and MIR PowELL. mutually explained when
miuee? 1900 ~ ''e ''A-
The Guam stated the question: and suggested tb,, he had
NJ th 10 perpI ms discussion to go in consequence
sir LEIGH expressed his satisfaction III a, the rs,, r
Frederick had not contemplated the consequences Of ;s
~ gentlemen mean frn he hopSd TO
and truth and liberty But gentlemen would meet Us in
spirit OF compromise he ready meet them Bu, he
tell they will stand firm no, his friend from Anyi
sec tina, no good effect could result from this
tnor'y OF COMMITTEES to be of any avail
Mr. JOHNSON said he should have moved the reference
NC mao supposed the authority of Committee would OF
no avail re do suppose that in Committee gentle.
sons might have been considered adjusted as to p,e
sent them IN form which woulihave agreea Bile TO all
gentlemen would only there TO maorcs he had no
70 "f a9S,,ary 10 suea purpose He wished
dnce concuren e of both parties desirable plan
Nh 9FATp ad he was not prepared to expect any
nc ieaFed 1t would end as the gentleman from Chesterfield
ard arepo should exactly drawn in reference ~ hc
which the gentleman had described would al Icas, hn nn
thy OF the experiment On that ground and also with the M
lei that even nothing should be done shall ONLY be wher
We are nc would give his support the motion It was moi
eXac right TO suppose that gentlemen will Commit
tee III the spirit and with determination IN nd
nero TO opinions which prevail in the Convention; they would
he operated on by the very circumstance propositions
are referred IN spirit of compromise report NAV be rro
Guge which various considerations may influence sway the
anu 10 coInmahd All unanimous vote He concurred in
THIS hope lie called the attention Committee TO the
deoucn that the favor yielded those propositions depeds
W. VIC 'esu lie ien on gentlemen om the West, look
TO these results These gentlemen have consistently consided
TAX payers qoaled voters and Of those who are of the are
~ y"a6 and upwards No they could be more erroneos
L
1h to the number of payers, taking every one of the
ns9es books, according to the OF last wear it
would amount To nearly the rs the federal p
bers lie suggested to the gentlemen the West tina, tl'e
could have better criterion because there was ,ohioo ~,
Influence those who lake tlcay
His calculations applied TO tina, foundation furnished the
results az the combination Of white numbers and taxaio
Having ascertaned these results did not this permit ,
foundation for Fue to be applied hereafter This takes into
consideration, the Influence Of different parties He put 10
tic gentlemen from the West whether the pJoposions Of tho
gentlemen from Chesterfield and Northampton did no, conc I'M
20 all which they had demanded ~ !
Mr. DopDfGDGE akCd If the had been
printed and IT there was any question before the Conm,,e
lac considered the present debate out of order The r
ieua from Richmond had ipuled TO the West ,ba, ,bry
ananed That the basis of representation should be the quail
ed yoers No had maintained that hut the gentleman
om Augusta He did not that any benefit could result
rom reference of that subject select Committee One
S'e or the other must have the majority in that Cn,niftoc
ann the Adoption OF the proposition Of THAT side must Inc e