Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-04


sure ie of tue timcat winch the dIspositio'
efthe greatest, and the most exp enced mcn'p'fs
those IN whom have the most conndenSc, hayye
Thought it right 20 come forward 70 Suggest tne
means to bring 10 conclusion this interesting ques-
tom He would not now despair OF ashappy rcsult;
but was more than ever Inclined 10 hope That The IA
bors of this Convention would az last be brought TO
successful termination, and that we shall not be
con,nced 10 break up in confusion, and carry the
spiru of dscord .wuhus from this assembly to our
constituents. and to the country.
Ii had been said by the gentleman from Richmond
Judge MarshalD that whnt nppearedto be the most
material point OF difference was, whether the two
branches Of the Legislature sha-be based differ
cnt principes or whether hey shall be based on the
same principle, which certainly the operations of the
two shbnIdmake the basis of both the same. 1t
WIS our duty to examine tue operation of each of
these principles. He did not rise now for tho pur-
pose of expressing his preference for either of the
propositions. II is not now the time to go into that
question. But he rose to say that there is another
point naturally to be considered which to dis
tinguish these propositions. On one side 1t was in
tended provide constitutional rule to govern the
apportoument of representation hereafter In the
Propositions of the gentleman from Northampton
und Chesterfield view is had TO subsequent cham
ges III the representation according to the relative
strength of the population in the various districts.
Il becomes us to enquire, when come to agree as
toa rule to fix representation for the present day.
whether il has not these characteristics of simplicity
for practical use which may enable us to adopt ii as
guide for future time. This ought to enter into
ofthe subject.
lie rose to correct msconception which seemed
TO prevail to the feeling in whIch the compromise
of his friend from Frederick Mr. Cooked had been
offered. That gentleman, III offering his resolutions
told the COMMITTEES that the compromise therein
contained had employed the anxious labor of
those who represented the interests of the Wos
tern, and Middle districts of the State. II was the
result Of thai anxious and careful labor. Il mistake
suppose that who bent his Inquiries this proposition
pledged here elsewhere sustain it, He et himself
TO con-
sider caudidy every proposition which nay be offered and
takee This was the understanding on which ne acted
Whenever gentlemen could sev him scheme he would
abandon that which lie had previously cherished aud
that which best he thought pertinent that
should consider matters way which would be likely
result not IN making majority OF one two, but nay
respectable He no plan winch was 50
s-sr,ineni refer the propositions Select Committee
lie would therefore TO discharge the Committee of the
Whole from the urthersousderaun propositions and
refer with the of ratios furnished by tine zen
iemau from Richmond, TO Select Committee Of Sc
members
Sir LtaH said the Of the report to he made would
depend entirely on the character of the Commce
would DC ranged on the one side and three the ie
tuust o'her result could arise the same thin, oye
again He was ejoiced To hear the gentleman Augusta
say he pledged any particular pan but that h,
would take that which appeared him to be the best lie wa
glad, because he had heard the gentleman Frederick r
Powe) call his friends stand rn in order as he Hcy
stood the gentleman 10 force to take these measures H
himself had not stood nn he had gwen way and he feared HI
had yielded than would be sanctioned NV his
Yet he was met IN this spirit OF unyeldng opposition
Mr. POWELL rose to explain He had said nor inende,
to say that gentlemen hts side pledged not 10 acceu
any other proposition than they offered All thS
c intended was to warn them after deliberately adon,g thei
opinions, not TO be diverted FROM the'teE
Mr. LEIGH and Mr. POWELL mutually explaned when
Mr. DoDDRnoL asked what was the question before Com
The Cnna stated the question: aud suggested tia, he ha
been induced permit this discussion 90 on in
ct the reguay which had marked tho discussions IN orme
cases
Mr. Lro expressed his satisfaction that the gentleman fo
Frederick had not contemplated all the consequence Of
declaration II gentlemen mean stand Rrn, he hcrcd
God that we should stand firm ground OF ius,i
and truth aud liberty But if gentlemen would meet US IN
spirit of compromise, he ready 20 meet them Bu,
would travel NOT one nc if the gentlemen on Ire other s
tell us they VIII stand hrn Did his friend from Angus
see that no good effect could result from reference this ma
thoIiy Of a Committee to be Of any avail
Mr. JOHNSON said he should have moved the rciereDc,
he had supposed tue authority of Committee would be
no avail ne q" suppose mat IN Committee Of gentle
who had the confidence Of the Convention these roo
sitons might have been considered adjusted as 10
sent them IN form which would have been agTeeabe to ali
H. however, should he the opinion of the Convention iba
ggene "ouio ony 90 tnee TO count maories he had NJ
Mish W nc auAhd'J 10 sueh purpose lie wished exam
nation which would lead TO such notifications as would IN
ouGe conou"en OF both parties in desirable plan
Mr. SrANARD said he prepared to expect apv
benefit from the proposition Of the gentleman from Agus,a
ae eafeu II %ouu END as the gentleman from Chesterfield
seemed to predict But the differences can be reconced
and sTePoT should not be exactly drawn in reference n, tine line
WINCH ihe gentleman had described would least be wor
OF inc experiment On that ground, and also with the be
hei That even nothing should be done we shall ONLY he ae,
we are he would give his support the motion n was no
sNacy lsht 70 suppose that gentlemen viii that Commit,
tee IN the same spirit and with the determination m
mere 70 Opinions which prevail in the Convention thew voI
eoPtdteI on ny ne very circumstance thar proposition
are referred IN spirit OF compromise report n,ay no nro
VARIOUS CONSIDERATIONS Influence
eody ana 10 Command unanimous vote He concurs
this hope He called the attention the Commtee IN the cor
soeIaton mat the favor yielded propositions crSt
on ine results he called on gentlemen on the West 10 loo
TO these results These gentlemen have conentlv ~osiy
the whole population fair opponents of eouaI ,,,or
Lax payers, qualified and who are OF the 7
~ years and upwards No. they could be more erfoneo1s
hey were not fair opponents Of either Of those casse II
ook 10 TIE number of tax payers taking every one of the cor
missioneFs books according the returns Of lie as
would amount to nearly the as Uc federal ms,
bers lie suggested TO the gentlemen from the West H., ,b
could have no better CRITERION because there was o.rg
influence those who rake the lis.s aaciDut rof,s
Ills calculations applied that foundation furnished , e.
results rs the combination Of white numbers and ,axa,o
Having ascertaincd these results did not this ,erni, r.
Foundation for rule to be applied hereafter This taxes TO-
consideration the Influence Of different parties He pu
the gentlemen from the West whether the nonostion ~ >,
gentlemen from Chesterfield and Northampton lid moi come
TO al which they had demanded.
r DoDpRiooL asked II the papers had been ordered 10
printed aud " there was question before the Cou,a
ne considered the debate Of order bs 40,
ueman from Richmond had imputed 10 the Wet Tia, H.
ssmed That the basis Misrepresentation should be the ,
eoFoefs NO one had maintained that, the genena
rom augusta Vie did not tiat any benefit cotl re'
from reference Of that subject 10 n select Co,i, ~
slde or the other mus have majority in thar Cc,n;
nj the a., 4