Virginia advocate. [volume] (Charlottesville, Va.) 1827-1860, 1829-11-06


1t is persons alone? Men, women ard
childrcn? There never was civil so-
clety, into which notions of property did
not enter, as we'll as notions of persons,
| Does it not then seem To he a rule of s"-
Ciety, that some respect he paid To the
representation of property? II money
enters into the elements nf society, mou-
ey ought to- be protected. Ifthen we find
society embracing the interests of both
persons and property, ought not both to
be protected? And of the two, M. u.
commended, that the rights of property are
more various than those of persnns-that
the qualifications are more numerous
aud that the great body Of !the volumes of
laws, treats Of the regulation and prOtec-
ton of property. rathef than Of the rights
of persons Even gentlemen themselves
adm: the necessity Of protecting property
by the guarantee which they offer.
Mr.. U. proceeded TO illustrate his posi-
tons by additional remarks and to show,
that property ought to be represented, UNI
der certain circumstances, as well as per-
SonS--hut before he had closed his argu-
ment, Gen. Taylor moved that the Com
mittee rise.
The motion prevaicd-and immediate
ly afterwards the Convention adjourned.
he above gives some of the points
made in the speeches ofthe several speak
ers. We have not room for more en-
banded sketch.
OCTOBER 90.
| Yesterday, the Convention met at IL
o'clock, and was opened with prayers by
the Rev. Mr.. Sykes of the Methodist
Church.
MIR. Fitzhugh reported the following
resultation from the Committee
The Committee appointed to enquire
into and report on the compensation to be
allowed the officers of the Convention,
have agreed to the following resolution
d" RcSolced, That five dollars per day
be allowed each OF the Clerks of this Con-
vention for every days actual attendance
on said Committees" (Which was agreed
to by the Convention.
On Mr.. Doddridges motion, the Con-
vention, proceeded to execute the order
of the day, and resolved itself into Com
mittee of the Whole MIR L. p. Barbour
in the Chair.
The Chair stated the question, and an
nounced that Mr.. Upshur was entitled to
the floor.
Nv. UPshur then rose, in pursuance Of
his argument. He recapitulated the points
which he had attempted to establish the
day before-He repeated. That there IVES
no abstract, a priori right in the majority
10 govern the COMMUNICATIVE there was
no such foundation either IN the laws OF
nature, or in compact-that there were
two species of maJorltles, ma joiity of
persons, and majority OF interests that
however in certain circumstances, it was
proper that the majority of numbers should
govern, yet there was all exception where
a great diversity of interests prevailed and
| and that property was entltled To protec-
| ton. Mr.. Uushur then proceeded to W.
lustrdte his positions by additional argu
| ments.
| He stated the case Of our contest with
Great Britain, where the piinclple was
| maintained, that taxation and Representa-
ton ought TO go together such was the
! foundation OF our claims at that day. AiI.
u. cOEtended that II those WHO are irxeu,
have no means of Representation, there
would be 40 way OF determining how mucn
| protection they received from tie gu,eru-
ment, aud how much they ought to CON-
tribute. He referred to the very proposi-
Iirns OH the :oble, Tor proof OF his p sillun<. |
Why, for example, Is 1t not proposed 10
give universal suilrdgc7 Every man Is |
subject to the operation of the government;
To tight lis battles, aud incur tie punish |
ment Of lis laWs-and yet they are not alt |
entitled to vote and administer the GOV
erumem. 1t is because they have not the
necessary quantity Of property, that the,
are not permitted by the propositions |
on the table to exercise the Right Of Sui |
irage.
Mr.. u. examined the position. that had |
been advanced Oh the other side that pro. !
perry could protect itself. He contended |
that il it were not allowed a share of repre-
sentatlon, wealth would only pr,tac; itself, |
by an improper exerlion of its Influence {: |
by bribery aud corruption. And suppose |
lie was to make The proposition to gentle |
men on the other side, that if they would |
pay all the taxes Of the government. thew |
should have all the power. Eor his own |
part he might be willing to agree to the |
scheme : hut would those gentlemen also |
concur III it!
Mr.. u. called the attention Of the Com |
mittee to the manner in which the present |
Constitution was formed. He stated, that
taen every interest was eprescmed-and
that all these various interests have grown
up under lis provisions aud pIedges-and
is it proper now To Violate these establish.
ed rights? Would il not wear the appear
ance even OF violence and Of fraud ? lie
stated, that if all the interests nj this Com
monwealth were the same, there would be
no necessity for peculiar organization Of
its power-bnt such was not the case lie
might say, that almost the whole carriage