Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-10-10
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T'EIN CoNvEWTEors.
FRIDAY, OCTOBER 9.

reported that the Committee had exulnn-
cd the returns Of the Shrritls and find the following
persons to have been duly elected members Of this
Convention. The list has been already published
On motion OF Mir. MERCER, the RepoIt was order
ed To be laid OH the table.
Mr.. FTTzuuGu and said, that bv reference to
the Act OF the General Assembly. calling this Con-
venton, he perceived that not only authority g-
ven To the Convention to appoint officers bu; n!su 10
determine and pay their compensation. II was as
Yurtant to these officers the members, that they
Shonid be allowed to draw their pay. He would
therefore Offer to the consideration Of the Conven-
uon, the following Resolution:
IieS"trea, That Commute be appoin, edto enquire
mo and report the compensation proper to be allow
tIo,.
1le resolution was agreed to. and AIessrs Fitz
hugh, loyal Stanard, Barbour of Orange, and Baiiv
were appointed said committee
Mr. DopDRIpGE, (the printed Report of the Com
nittcc OF u members having been furnished to the
House about one ocioc.g stated that the printed
documents Which were yesterday ordered, were now
received Tor the purpose Of ascertaining whether
the House was prepared proceed at this time with
the consideration of the Report or whether it would
be considered Desirable take farther time for re-
fec'ion he would make motion TO take it up; but
would willingly withdraw it the request of any
member who might express fish or more time for
consideration.
The motion was thcnr and carried In the affirm
alive.
| The first resolution having been read,
MIR. MERcER sad it would now be i'm order for
nm with the consent OF the gentleman from Nor
folk Mr.. Pazcwh!( 20 Offer the resolutions which he
nau submitted to the House, and which by or
der Of the HoWe, had been printed; but the
necessity for tn, consideration of these rcsoIu-
tons would dcpcnl upon the decision of the House
upon tue other resolution, and lie would therefore re-
Iran from Offering his resolutions, until the fate of
the substitute OF the gentleman from No riolk should
be decided. lie admitted that the resolutions as re-
ported by the committee We're in some measure deiec
tive q his object II Offering his resolutions was to OBJ
th al the lnteigcc which could be elected from
TINS respectable buy. preparatory to the final dspo
sitlon OF toe business. But he believed that bv nnor
g1ng the COMMITTEES, should the proposition of the
gentleman from Norfolk, to refer rs whole subject
to the Committee Of the Whole be necativcd so ns
TO make them consist Of one member from each of
the Senatorial districts, al purposes rnirt perlaDs he
answered, as al the intelligence Of the House would
De brought INTO operation upon the various subjects
which might be offered to their consideration ITe
made these remarks by way ofapoiopv for NOT hrng
ing forward his proposition now, nc had pronosed
MIR. IAzEWELL said 1t would have been much
more satisfactory to him. that the scheme 70 viii
he had offered substitute should be made as nerlcct
I'D every respect, rs its friends could desire befnro b
had offered that which he was now about To nroroso
Ii was not his wish to offer substitute to scheme
which was imperfect, but as soon az tho fr;orJ r
the scheme had made it as perfect as thnv, dos;-o5 ~
make IT. then between his substitute and their nnrGr
scheme, the House wonld have to decide Rnt e
gentlemen were determined to commit their scheme
10 the House IN its imperfect state he couId bovo
objection to redeem the pledge which no had o;von
to the House, and to bring forward his substitute a
this moment He would therefore ,novc n an,cnd
t'e report, by striking ont the rcsoluti,~ and bv
substituting the resolution which he had ves,erdo,
offered TO the House. and printed copv Of ~ b;cb
was annexed to the Report of the Committee
In making this motion. he considered il bu, e,;r -
pie'ace what ne should say with stating that the
same motion had been made by him in Tho sojnrt
Committee, and that it was in that C,on,,nit,oa ~
Jected Notwii hstanding this fate however he ia
t'ug.' IL que 10 the interest and Importance oftbc
subject to the future deliberations of this BODY and 70
those gentlemen who had opportunity OF: nar,;c;
pntng In tho proceedings of the Cnnoni,t6e IA -.
TO the House what only the Committee had AZ ve, No.
an opportunity TO decide upon '
On examining the two schemes which ,,,nro ,t.
brought to the view of the Convention II rnust ~
cur to every gentleman, that in neither of tbor, nm
there involved any principle. Each of the scbemos
contenpiates the most convenient mode of ohtainin1
nc "oIece which All nave equally in view. The cues
uon, therefore, Is question of mere cyned;enca
question OF convencnCe--hen matter IN ho ,loo;,io
ing SIMPLY by which of two modes that shall ho On
compilshcd, which all are DESTROYS NAV be ncco,l;
w, NC queoCloh therefore, narrows down to
mere question, which of these modes Is m be ,,,n
ted. These methods principally f;Hcr IN ,t;P
ny the scheoe embraced in the resolution which
ne hah the honor to offer, tho existinr E,rn
-, ovcLnn ,n IS az once and altogether referred
TO the whole body in Committee Of the Whole fr tt
purpose OF detailed examination and revision tboro
ne Vhoe scheme therefore is brought before tho
"oIs 9ouy at ire same time. Every step of advance
To-
retrogade: every step advanced in the ,vor ,, ~
diminish what remains to be done. VIVA, IN tho
contrary must be the effect OF adopting the rennrt
d d the committee? First, VIC shall have to divide
ne suplect INTO different parts, and to Distribute ali
, me, difierent parts among distinct Committees
" mar hat thcn becomes of the body of the subect
ADOPT the Substitute which he proposed and on ~,
pu' OF me moment, the House could Immediately m
mo acton The moment his Resolution was 11, "a
ne whole subject would go into Committee NJ to
y. nole' Inc Clerk viii Immediately read the Reco-
unlon me Committee would go into the dis
10 o VI Iho s'l3lect-progress would be made
would be prepared. 'i'O a'''ciio'nents
i, IheTe is another cause why substitute sboud b.
u6,co Inc scheme as reported dissects the whole
mong as ioany distinct Committees. Vbat tTa.
elS 1oF me bodyto pcrforH'-nothing, either Errc-
llSe' LegIslatlyeor Judicinl Those who con,no ~,
rs 81 S Inc Convention are left to stand with their
! NE ioI"eo' nntH the Committees rive them eot,o
DIHg to DO. Here then was ono 5dv,,toa so'1c-