Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1829-12-14

should Ice adopted. n would not preclude nus
Canvcn,,an from grafiing upon Il any plan for
fain . appori,onmenf. And II 40 body VIII,
he will snhmn one 10 this COMMITTEE. For
M. own pat. he shonld prefer the basis oi
Fed.tal numbers as being the most e,pedicni.
n was said. indeed. that N was marked vi
a,is,aciai.e features. 49, Hut could any one be
leyc. That The three venerable gentlemen who
had appeared in this Convention. two of whom
/ had drawn their swords Ia the defence OF Their
/ Country and all oi whom had bseu Distinguish.
ed In The public councils, uoaId advocate any
atsiorraitc proposition lie said, although
II mighl be impossible 10 adopt any such bhs"
in ih,s body unde' present circumstances, YET
Il might be expected that hereafter If might
,re.ah Ia both branches. As 10 the ! Ian OF
founding the two Houses on ilerent prince
pie. with the view oil checking each other, he
expressed his strong dissent lie explained the
. effects of such az oprrhiion; the one House
constantly che King the oihrr. and disturbing
the body polite he rontendrd that mere
~as no analogy between Our own CONSTITUTION
aud the checks AID balances which are adpp
ted. y the NOM rchic 4 governments ofEmore-
wlsrs The Il 1errui orders III spciety. iit kIbg,
! |. lrds aud people heye he,r own specih'd
pow ~ for protecting iher several nief.eis-
| Nbr was there any analogy between ar own
| aud the Federal Constitution Ia winch diiirr.
eut principles Bfe feCog Used toT lho protection
o separate Interests He declared 10 the Con
| muee that This opni VAS nat new one
! that II lad beeu supported by ne, Who h"a
! formerly occupied hlgh station on Ihs Hour,
Col, John Iayiar II Laroine, had takfn The
same virw This ldra also SCENE 10 have hccn
sanctioned by nv argument II the member
I'm A lgnsiA Mir l'nns"") y's'",""s wy
| aIu ne say, thai he piinclpl al Federal bhsis
/ .Itat. l,f i,ta ff,ls
propa supn OF The gent eman itom Fred 'ick !
In, that 1T was compelled Ia pursue The last
III consequence OF his bolia thai his own PEG
pie would not agree To l. 7 Mr.. Nj. sad that
! II thai gen'lemh w0ed only tse his gfet IN
! duenee IN prrsDaJ'ng lbs peopc oi the pfopfir.
" Of adoptlngii, he was satisfied from "hh'
be knew Of thai peopr, ~ could easily recon
Gle thor .hinds 20 su' n cou,se.
Mr. Sinnnrd declared hat ne should supp ri
Nj. nlrdu..s proposition. though he should
not pledge himself 10 all It's teiaiis.
Mr. Cook rpsr 10 sumparc he details oi the
Two plhrs, now batorH the Camnlre-=pi1 the
: hen.s Of Aiessr. l shur - ,orlou-acc0td
ny 10 these plan.
b. Mr. Go,don's Senate Of b 10 10
NJ rpshn',. - = IS
llrte 4 tlllcreuce ~ fsyenr oitHo y 81, OF
! l.32dp alrol tbr whole apuaie
! M. Gordon Ia Is oil d l2J % ~
| Nj Upshur.. ~ II
Ibus, the plan OF VI, Gordan Is preferable to
4 Al Of Mr. Upshnr, 6oh---thus IN ihe jso
Houses, the difference briwecn Tie two plan,
~ very InGunsideIanls. - But ~ anuiher respect
there lsa very important diirrrnc.-- Gnat oi
! Nj. u, contalns n principle OF future apportIon-
meni, n principle Of vitality, aud sell prose va
ton winch Nj. Us entirely wants. lie would
| therefore, say n with MI due re-pnct, that Mr..
G's was u mere shit II temporary r1p-dIent, 10
gen clcHr Of present embarra smenis. Much as
he desired TO suppor my plan which came
ifom that quarter; iiOm 1t gentleman 10 whom
he had been 50 much indebted asa ia,thu
ir~nd al reform-ye he could not support a
plan which settled 40 principle, and Wan mere
" ~ Temporary patch work oi Constitution, Ia
be torn 10 pieces SOM five or seven years hencr
by the ag,a,ors aud jacab,ns Of TIM, day-And
ihis, he said. was WIN hm u vial objection,
aud such one as would induce the people
% the West 10 a man to reject any such Con
| stitulion
Mr.. Gordon was sorry 10 hear the gentleman
from Frederick alIy the word " shit. +" 10
his proposition hongh from the expression
o personal kindness 10 himself afterwards he
did n1i suppose the gentleman meant II IN an
offensive sense. Mr. Cooke said, certainly
not MIR. Goi dos went on to my, that he had
val silent spectator OF the debates this ques-
! ton, hui II seemed 10 he evident, thai he Con
vention could not agree upon bny future APP.
por,Ion,nrnt What then wste 10 do ST,
here an egaIltbrio doing nothing--or shall We
return hoiUe. with a blank piece oi pnpar 7
H. lad considered this subject wrlI--he vas
for rrpn,sIng the Constitution upon lis ancient
| fuuda 'ins--for redressing the inequalities OF
| th, and lpayiny AZ I'm the NJ nd
aud the wise men of The land 10 arrange me
other ConsIu ION. Bal, he could ne, consent
To SIT here. waiting I'LL some scheme should be
supported Wy osr or Two votes thrown into the
scale, and mnk'ug mragre mai m y--thus
sending out Constitution, 80 maue, and car
ryihg dlscord and onIusau among the good
p ole OF Virginia But, II gentlemen on both
stdes could agree on any future spporlionment
by large majority, hr for one would be mos
happy IL suppoI /.
Nj. UpghW ass'gned the reasons for votm 9
for M. Gordon plan. IL should vote for II
because II was cal, ulaied 10 redress the presen
ineqnauies OF representation. M d II did mo-
preclude he offer OF some general plan Of lu
ture appointments n,cn he Mas SO anxious I,
obtain.
Mr. Doddidge proposed resolution a
doping the Jsderal bd,iS ior the Senate, ant
/
&c.
Mr.. Dodaridse declared that he was unwil.
ling TO adopt MIR Gordons plan, without some
such ann u'iment. for lie was satisfied that uu-
less some such provision was ma lie ii would OIL
throw The people INTO hano--and that moi h
'og butsuch n Constitution would satisfy hi
people II such proposition was not adopted
II was time for him to know il, because he woul,
BE- abe to determine Tor himself by Monday OF
tuesday, whether he could any longer conlri
butte 10 the labprs Of thie Convention.
Mr.. Leigh said. he understood the object n
MIR q proposition was 10 SINK all cIiscussin,
ss To future apporionment. h. relation to ,h.
remark OF the gentleman from Brooke, thai h,
might Withdraw from the Convention, was he
To understand mat u was part OF the menace
which he heard out OF doors, of the intention
OF The Western deleg ion TO withdraw Mr.
stated that he had said, aud he begged HI,
words 10 be- remembered, lac should decide on
y Tor nimselEl Mr.. l., said. il The gentleman
only Withdrew. we should carry our ptopusi
npn Al issue which he surely could not regret