Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-02

hoh"'' Af;"r filling Tho higbeS hc.lOrs 4 aan
her Stt saCo-y 20 IN shv but he mus con- So it SO
al isiacto;, t. him in 80 ev hin f i.v. b., s,iil
In u fIli VI sor % eIect, lie IN prt,tn .i,a.l the
same doctrine with NOR" foc,e a-d pc.sp;c,ity than
II u.d ~ his youth. HIRE Mr. ID. resd 90 ne ex-
Hlc from letters * rtt"n by Mr.. iciI;.rsun
Its "pn hal been 1sl,e ON Tho .,i,,.c: IT
Convent H. Toe hsscry Of III" or xin-i III had
aleao! Dong IL was brought IL he Ss.,ate IN
n"L3, ana r'Jec' d BY small j. ity in 1919. The
pubi became cxcite and this Ind pr ducri rnotl-
or bill IN I81-1Cl7 tle hs'o,v Of tvhirh had been
giVe"hy TIE gentleman from Norfolk This ill
pa &c the Hons" of Delegates. AID gave way in he
1Tha'e '" the hiii re uia in, Senatorial districts
! II &c read anot, or extrac from a lct.e- of Mr.
Jeft rson relative I" III Executive.
Such, Mr.. ID. said, we he opinions of Mr. JEFF.
ierson IN re'ersac 20 he TX '~c.ve Such tin
htnnents OF MI jeff rsop az tn. distinct perio u
which had been stated a. ha.' already said anc
hs would now barely notice lie IA I n order 10 ar
rive nj the arguments against him, bat the Cover
o was responsible officer; that The Connect
re'' hun n to what he shall and what he shall n
do; aud that the Council, from Their institution are
nn' h"p"ndent on the General Assembly. lie had
ait hat the responsibility of the Council dividei
among eight was not felt. IL nav be also assert
ed, as general ruth that tho gentleman who t.ke
hs seat the Council table does not calculate that
ne vi b. the first victim of The Scroich II was
mol hk"y TINT the whole of the Council would rem
der themselves obnoxious 10 tho General Assembly
AM tha' all woIld he rotten in that little State of
Dcnmark. Every third year, if the members were
no iIn?eache !, and lie had fo-q,,iten If ,hry wer,
su lIct 10 lmccachrn"n'; that twelve wars the
L"gs' trc TVS: crdure The rr,'n hoso-c thov can
gei rif ofthe Council This view NJ ,i, coi,stu-
ton ~ IN" Exc uye Council sheys that IF any res-
possibility iachrs to them IS weak ana nnerfect;
ri behind such an authority evil disposed Gov
IN " ma sku!k frnm respnr.sib v. These were the
rcrurnts which had yet bccn met
Wien he "omplained hat tie Executive was NJ.
sufficiently responsible. he by the gentleman
I m Richmond (Mr N;cholas) gho nntende, thar
IN y were sufficiently To show. however that
they are not dependent. W. have nrlv to turn pur
eyes to the fact, ihit the people cnn hav' no cnn
tr except through their agent, in tn, Grnetal As
mby. If the Council re not anenabe Their,
they are not amenabe to the people. The people
then can have power oyer them In sheyyinp
tina thy were re-p'nsble 10 none, lie showed that
they wcre not appointed by the people, and c. uld
not thoFrrore be male responsible to them.
There wa anothe. general view of the sitgaicr
III which tie members of tie Coz neil were Ma
ced; and in what he said, he dscaimed anv refer
cnce 10 any ne who had been, or is. q m rnLer Of
that body III reference was general as 10 fhCir
situation, exposed to t'e operation o" The piuires
Of ma uTe. of those Weaknesses to which We are all
liable, and to which if any supposed he was not
Lao BILE he hid vet To learn the great lnsSou-gnoth
seau' on Each member has to sustain a family de
pendent on him, and considering the expenses Of
sustaining, OF rearing up and educating family it
may be afi med at thai the salary of member
of the Executive Council is Mt that on witch he
can suhs~i. lie must be enpa {cd in o'hcr bus:ness
tie must pursue the profession 1f LAWYER or some
a. her honest craft, from which nc must calculate 10
draw subsistence &lring life. IL Is also compelled
n TO become resident of Richmond, forms attach.
4 menis and II liable 10 be ed on by hose by whom
he IS imm lately surrounded and with whom he as
socIat and, eOquenty said BY the gent !enar
from Chesterted IS operated on through biS virtues
themselves. He belongs the country.
but to the city, and wherever there is a collision be-
tween city pucy and hat the unry, he is not Ike
~ to be- fair representative Of the latter This ia
likely TO hcvc and may have effect IN Is operation on
the financial concerns of the government and If ca
pabe of such operation there many rich harvest.
on which this influence may operate Great cypen-
dtures have been made here on the building of the
Pcnentiary, III the erection of the Armory, aud
other works which have required large distributions
of money; and on thUse two great items thousands
and hundreds OF thousands have been committed to
the discretion Of the Executive. Az had been said
yesterday, tho patronage Of the Executive is not
exactly to hc compared to the few ,uaves anG fishes
at the same mo ey not sufficient 10 satisfy tn
craving of the whole world. Il the liabilities 10
abuse great TINS Influence may be rewarded
as a prnctcTl evil. But what w0.s it 10 the
country, If abuse should &c pract,s,.d by the Exec
uIve, by others, that they are rrespons bic To
the people. The abuse is the evil and the means
TO avoid il is our present object AS we have moi in
this discussion, confined ourselves TO parliamentary
rules, he ought to be permitted refer to what fell
from tn, gentleman from Chesterfield in the Legisla-
tive Commit. g.
/ The CHAIR stated that it could only be tolerated
now because such violations of parliamentary prac
tice had been permitted before
Mr.. LEIGH said he willing that any thint
which he had said any where should be the subject q
remark.
The CHAiR' in its decision, disclamed any refer
ence to any individual.
Mr.. DoDDRDGE said he only desired to refer I,
the remark OF the gentleman : To our tendency T.
corruption with our growth upwards He statct
that FROM his first manhood to the present time h,
had marked its progress in various ways, and ha,
especially traced II in tho love of office aud The mode
to VIII Oh men resort 10 obtain IT, There was much
truth IN he observation, although he was not dspo.
sed e. look at the worst side Of things PeTbap,
'ther ca might be assigned for those effects which
the ent enau had witncssc'. There was n Ger.
man or Dutch writer o. apAO.!siRs Tho had SAID tha'
n IS old who knows many Villains. Il is probable
Tint as We pass through the iolsome scenes of life
~ our extending acqugln'a -ce with man, we disco.
yer more of his weaknesses. and NAV thus tale M
the erroneous opinion that al around us il grow in
corruption; and which does not serve to Increase our
confidence ~ mankind, but rather to make Us DIS
truslful of those whom have 80 little control
While discussing this subject he had urderstao-
the gentleman from Chesterfield as saying that he
was acting for the Commonwealth. lie h ID turne,
himself round To reflect what that