Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-10-10

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then laid on The table.
Mr.. BENJAMIN w. LEiGu said he wished to max,
single suggestion. The gentleman from Loudour
IN MS remarks concerning the disposition of the resu
uions hsd stated that II the report adopted he
should move resolution that each of the subject.
should be referred 10 a committee Of Que from racl
sena'A rial district. This seemed to be intended 10
operate OH the minds of the convention the dspo-
siton of subjects He trusted that the convention
were not about to act the Supposit that this
solution would be agreed TO and that such cours,
would be adopted. He should vote under the hone
that the convention would not on s., inconyenicn,
a scheme. The resolution referring the subjects 70
twenty -four members would embrace ns LARGE anos,
"a the Senate of Virrinia aud rs the first Senate al
the United Stutcs. They would 10, 100 con1ni,,,ns
in any sense off, word. Tie same sceue woull bo
hct' over again. which he VAS s0rry 10 witness IN
the committee of TWEEN y-tour wl.ch il now visiting
Instead ut discussing the various poin in conversation
according TO TIE usual pgact ice OF Cumrn;,tees ncn
ticInen rose ttom their seats IL form and addressed
themselves ~ the Chair, the same a. if in Comm
OF the w hole SO that pursuing this Practice in-;ead
OF Select Com...ttees shah have only Gebatino
bodies He had been opposed the other dpv To- the
appointment VI Committee of twcn.v four but had
lsrd nothing at the time. lie was We'll sat- lied
'he:, that would be precedent according "a
lwhich each important Committee hereafter would b.
composed Of member from each Senatorial Dis
tict, because universal custom teaches that yha' In,
oeen once do;ic us-.i GOllC a, and ir no bot
Ter reason than TINT 1t has been done. lie shonid
not send jCr, propositions be operated upon by
cumberous machine Z Comm;,tec of:wtnty .iou,
As to the disposition 0t tho business in olhcr ,e
arccts, he was entirely Indifferent: thu ficnds of the
Report We're at liberty To - Il III ~ r,.ls,,; tao,
might merge their resolutions and un;.c ton
Committccs--so that they would satisfy him ..,at
they would leave duties TO b. pGrfi,nol il,
all t. on'mii ees Bui h. would agree to os;ab
iisli precedent IN the outset for al. Cont Fec, I;
be composed OF twenty Jour members.
Al CT n few words from Nh. il4KcrR. md NIp
LHlGH, in explanation, the cond, third and .uutt:
Resolutions "Crc i.-:ccd 10.
The question being on the fifth resolution, 5ia
MERCER moved to amend By inscrliny after thu, vu ?,
that the word. the "dcc,ara.ilu Of riph,s and -
81 that the re- Ululion would read, .Rrsnyr,i tina
the declaration OF rights and all such par, of the pre-
sent c"ns, u,on, ms are not REFEREED &c.
The ainnndmcnt WAS adopted, aud the resolution
rs amended was hen agreed 10.
i'ie question hcirg on the sixth rcso' ion
AR. BENJAMiN w. LE'GH suid ae would DO O.
blgcd 10 some gentleman OF the sclec: Co....ttc,
to assign u reason for this proposition.
Ma. CHAPMA> JoHSsov SAID the reason C,r rccnn,
mending this resolution simply this; the Commit
tee had Thought that IN proposing amendments TO IN.
; constitution OF Virginia, every mcasurc s!ouI.
BE- adopted which should lead to fl,turost re-
lection and fullest Consideration. before en-,
thing was done 10 commit this body, or TO mari
the EourGr which should he finally thougl.r t.
he the wisest and best. The Convention havinc
greed That The various parts vi the Constitution h
'''~'''N ~ 't4ttt SOiH .1lll't~. - enquire
amendments ara necessary i was tlough, not 10 l.,
proper during 'he existence ofthesa Committees pos
sessng their delegated Guthcrty 10 permit individual
members 10 Introduce At their discretion. amendments
winch might lead To discussion, hcfure they had 20
ccivcd the sanction Of such Committees. /, wa.
tnen thought proper that there should be no dis
cuSslon OF SUCH SUBJECTS until they were either refer
req to Committee of the Whole, or to u Srlec
! Committee, as'the House IA. hit thin, best,
/ MIR. Is. w. LEIGH said, {, = toliup the rcnera
words cf the Resolution, the only effect would be tina
lit any gentleman thought proper to propose a.
amendment to the Constitution IN Cunventin,
and wished Ia preface his melton wiki e,ip.a
natory remarks, lie would NO. be permitted -
Ills own understanding of the word discuss
was that 1t did not imply debate. 4 sirnl
person might discuss proposition, while debate re-
CURED more than Fis principal objection wa
founded on his presumption ta; no person would b,
permitted by way OF pr face TO assign his reasons .o
I Offering any proposition.
! Mr.. CHAP'iNN JoHNsoN SAID that matter was con
siGercd when this resolution was proposed and re
commended. The parliamentary knowlei-e of III,
gentleman from Chesterfield woGil furnish him wit
an apt Illustration of this difficulty and Mr. J. sail
nc was snrc wh'A lie difficulty removed tie
! objection would Ilso give way. Ii was standing
rule OF me House ~ Delegates md he believed "
legislative bodies that no prcposiign could be dis
cSscd until! was seconded, vet IS rule was ncv,r
construed q" preventing the gentleman Offering IN,
proposition from explaining his np'iycs az he put
IN tho hands of the Chair. The rn,icnan IT. IN Che.
not wait till he had put his resolution IN tic hands
tho Chair to explain hls object Nor I'D he ccRsid.
gentleman on Of order. No mcri..ar was out oi
order, If he confined himself 70 al explanation Of M
object. Gentlemen perhaps would not tIGnl: proper
to extend that explanation widely as 20 draw the
merits oi the proposition into discussion. Ever,
gentleman must take his own discretion and taste
for his guide. After explanation tho Chair puts
the question, and proposition is then either referred
or otherwise disposed of
! MIR. DUDDEfpGE saIL on rcfcrfinr 70 older MON.
bcrs than himself be learned that this difficulty ha,
occurred beio'e. On presenting a proposition, ex.
pianatl'. IS the practical exposition OF the rule o
/ the House Of Delegates. lie had - n member
OF the house always scen this practical exposition
I put on the roll.
The question was thrn put md The resolution was
agreed Ayes dO-Noos 3.
] On motion Of Mr. MEHcrR tho frs, in the series
OF resolutions, was then taken W, and rejected.
MIR MhrcR Then 81 resolution subject OF, h.
extension OF the committees. lie stated IN reply the gentle
man rom Chesterfield that he had looked journals
me House OF Delegates Tor many and had found
mere was scarcely any important SUBJECT which the