Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-10

fhe proposition of the gentleman from Northanp-
on comPar's The two plans. and divides equal con-
ccssions by the difference betw cen them.
And could there be case, sir, where eoury MS we'll
"a mutual concession was reasonable? For
neither SIDE can say to the other, out number
You, ind you ought therefore, to yield to numbers
Nci her side. will presume to say to the other we
have more wisdom than you, more Intelligence moro
Information, more experience, more patriotism or
more of the confidence of our constitute nts Yes
SIR, there never case IMPOSING more OBLIGATION
on both sides to relax in their opinions and by equal
as we'll mutual surrendcrs of opinions to meet ON
middle ground.
acknowledge that cannot concur in the expedi.
ency NJ adopting gemcnts merely tenpororv
howe, er may respect and value the motives promn
ting them. They would, IN my view be but an an
odyne to the public agitation, only to awaken it,
Iter lapse OF ten years, to more violent state
II would be o!dIng up In the instrument of concil-
ialon Itself hidden torches of discovd to be lighted
up whenever the same great subject should be re-
viewed On the whole, sir, shall give my vote
for tie plan proposed by the gentleman from North
'inpton' US more equal ground of compromise than
'he otiier and have thought proper 10 make This
explanation, lest my course should be supposed want
ing IN consistency.
MIR NcoI, thought due 10 ,ho -
ne shn pursue on the present Like gentleman
IRON osanse, (r Sladison he thought that provision
"u' ~ ne made Tor future appoonents; this was not
ptGcuded by the proposition of the gentleman from Aemarle
Nr Gordon No man in the Convention represented nor.
ton o the State tina, would greater number Of
ta'Ves by The arrangement than his District aud HIS per-
soua opinion that representation ousht to he m
numerous House Delegates hut he f himself placed
IN situation where be sacrifice the local interest Of hi,
o'S'Iic, 10 the general interests of Eastern Virginia
lie Thought on the whole So I, gave hin, ersa,
~ oe 10 cG'"'Se between the but he though,
aaopng the proposition Of the gentleman Albenae-
he considered himself as pledged his aid to the
a'rinsenien OF a iituEs system of appor,ionncn,
MT SocTr sad, I've acting the members from, middle
Virginia in embracing Mr. Go,don's scheme
lie would step farther He thought he should he in Ca.
YOUR OF some scheme OF future superintendent He would no
M one oil lean majority to force any respecting that
ci on "ory but he prepared ncrsase any respect
able majority in plan they be able to aree
-. ne qesnon was roy taken MIR Doddrases amend
'ne'i a,i dec'tcd III the nesave-ayes "a, noes 10
is Monroe voting aye Mesrs Madison aud Marshall no.
and Nv l s"on was tien taken on MIR Gordons amendment
GHr darshan, ayes Messrs Madison Monroe, no)
90 Inc committee agreed by majority of g. to adop the
''noSlnS as substitute for the scheme MIR Upshur:
mat the representation of the and House
There shall Senators West Of the Blue Ri " Mo,,
! tains, aud 10 tas, of those Mountains o W '
mere shall be IN tho House of Delegates l27 members Of
whom - shall he elected from district Yves, of the A,e
many Mountains p from the Valley between the
water, and 81 thence below. 1900 " ~
Mr. Mr. UPsgun now offered the following amendment:
fieSoTe", That the Legislature shall have power to r. ar
anse inc representation in both Houses the General Assem-
inc ra,o eve years upon fair average of the follow
numbers. rfN' ' VI '"e eaerai
Mr. Ho%rsGT of Amherst, offered the following amendment,
MAI IN the year the Legislature shall pro.
an law 'o akns the census OF the population of the State
session after the shall taken and the
M m sha by law submit to the qualified voters the
OF me question: of the basis of representation in boh
Houses OF the Legislature if majority concur in favor Of
any particular basis the Legislature shall at their next
ing session. apporion s8 delegates and 81 enaors 1880
ing 10 such basis and shall provide all future
oen upon such basis, and for all assessmen,s'bu,
s"4e h s5e an fail combine basis the
;asaom s Sp Nc sHvrn9nd basis of white population
De us TO them shall expeient-and the law
<tuJe lol appor'onment Of representation for
of this Constitution ''''e e '"eia''er DE a part
avcs being taken without debate, uega,ved
S Snes S Madison, Monroe and Marshall, Eo)
MIR CLAYroa offered the following:
| hcSoced. That the Legislature Shall IN ,ba re,
make provision for the organization of Conve3;on s,,, 80
% sa may be- on the qualified voters this Conmow eah
Cessna so reapporuon the representation both Houses of the
General Assembly upon such as thew shall h;nt s
MIR JouSsoS stated the reason wby he od n,a
al amendments of this character viz that the Copvcn,ion
power to do any thing else. ~ " ~ ''
Ihe amendment was rejected
MIR CAMPBELL Of Brooke moved the following az ,;
tute f'r Mr.. Upshuys amendment, e' " S'oS'-
ffesofced, That when amended oil h ,
p'cd 20 the people, the following question bv wav of
eht snail be PEopounded TO the people for FINAL secmeu,
Shc tie basi, IF representation in both 5raneSss Of The
Lee,safure be tohife population errusireiyS 'e
Aicr few remarks in explanation v the movey aud an
objection by Mr. LEIGH - Wv e'' oil" dD
The amendment reec,cd-ayes 80
VII rIrzHU6E offered the following amendments
ReSofUea That in the wear and in nncr,, ,,,, .
thereafter it shall be duty of the General Assemble =, r
oPPD"oh Tue representation House of DELEGATES
nearly as possible in proportion white
a IN making such aPporjonmen county shall he subject
II was rcjeced-ayes Is noes 49,
The question being then put son AIR Tosbu,,s ,-,o,,
(see above it was carried-aves so
MT UPsIDR moved the following provso.
'Proutded, That Tie number of the House oF Dioc.,,.
shall exceed no, Tho n,,r,i,r 81 81, q 800
"-Itwa carried
NIr SCOTT moved that the Committee now riSr
MIR POWELL suggested il would he better a. reno,, ~
Sfess and go into the House and ge, vote upon II,
Mr. LEIGH said he did distinctly understand what tho
progress was he wished to and reject upon IL
Mr. MERGER commended that nothing had vet beer Io,o
because was the understanding. when MIR johnson made
s motion to strike out tho word Resolved from MIR Upsburs
iSI proposition that vote be finally taken on accent
ing mar proposition as il might ne amended ~
ihe CHAIU said, should hold il 10 he lis duty IN MI, e,,c
queson should be moved but was contrary 10 the mile
WHICH understood to have been adopted at the commence
mem OF the deliberations Of tho Convention The duty OF
computes was to amend; that whole duty: and IL
out amendment. " " i VIZ S'''' WIN
b orr was opposed reporting in part Let the Com
nn 20 on and settle what 10 be ali the elements NJ tic
new Constitution and then refer the whole TO Select Com