Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-11

4 The ueaicmln from Fauluers propc :''Or. was
10 bind the Governor - consult the council md not
bind him 10 obey u. Thus tho whole would DEPEND
on The .persona character of tte psvo-nor. ma-
drst man i'nd thor" more political than per
Founl cowards) would nSk ttc advice, AMI 50 shield
him eli from re- po1s blitv while n obs mate man
would ask tho advice merely in obedience the IN
functions Of tho Constitution, and then give hun
!.fn-'v 10 dIsobcy ii.
/ lie referred to The division Of departments propos
Cd in tho Executive The efnc. world be. 10 intro
ducc mer who had only knowledge Of rho affairs
belonging 10 each Individual and no, certainty of
knowledge ofthe bu'irc@ Of the E1cc,five. How
could this ccrfa'y of knowledge be obtained with
/ ont an Executive Council Every nnrnbe- Of thc
Executive Council must rely the ocion of his pre-
dcccSs0rs.
! Or iI-efathcrs took j. into thor hnat+ tim, as il
would BIZ absolutely necessary tn coniide much pat
roraCc TO he Executive, II also ncceSs- lii
vide that patronage. to preYcrt It's abuse Il tie
proposition ofths geutl.uln from Fau,,uicr prevail
al IN" patronage woa!d be vested in rln Executive
l-oos at the patronage as II now rs. The Execu-
tive OF irginia lctFout every mpcrten contract for
MANY important puiposcs--iae Capitol, the hrrrorv,
the PentcnlaTy II il proposed - rvc him all the
paironage. great deal snid about cuucusscs in
election OF Governor. He did not briieve the new
or knew IT. for the situation of Little cnolurent
and ~" of no arubi'ion.
lie referred to the state of the elections OF Govern
or in other States lie referred To the newspaper
accounts o them only According IN them all Cover
nors Of Pcnnsyl .auia from Thomas NJ Kcan were
llic IdIlNHt tttS 'lldt CbNu ne; tho ste.
Every description of folly is Inetamo-pln<ed on tho
opposite side 10 wisdom lie said bad smells and
perfumes Of every kind equally lpathsoIgc 20
him. lie could endure neither SO he esteemed
thn abuse and cu!ogiums Of the Press Both were
equally disgusting TO him. Go to New York, and
according to the papers there all their Governors are
knaves. 4 gentleman said that this government
vas ncwSqaper Government Every mans merit is
drcrcpld-one side praised and tho other Damned to
he'll. without rruIorSc
We will haze tho vhol, sroun - ni IN Z-,;,
Ia. We regard the freedom ofthe Press as the most
lnestimahe blessing lie was at n loss 70 decide
whe her the freedom ofthc press or It's cen ousncss
he should term It, was greater curse than the ell
Saving 1T.
Whrn the press is enslaved t~ country cursed: when
il is licentons j. also cursed This principle would regu-
late the election Of Governor
lie told that the Ex,ct-e was u,eiess aud nv them
who do not ref the institution. Ityas always filed
duties fai,nul,. The salary first 500 pounds. History
would show that the Executive Council faor. con
tanned men, whom Presidents United States
and one Chief Justice The US.
Tho Executive has acted ell and for all imposes vas
intended II does nos become the prudence Z gentleman
rom a"ncr 10 maze lie experiment Tie knows be is free
and all he is that. Tie would tell the plan which occur
red TO him remodel the Executive Counc TO educ,
the number aud 80 daut the salaries of the REMAINDER. Tina
was however The business ni the Legislature Another chang,
he woud make, the House Of DELEGATES. woulc
changc the mode Of the Couuci,apponti
Lieut. Governor, and elect the Councillor, for wears Il
objected TO the proposition Of the gentleman Northampton
vide for the casually of the d'ath Councillors lie trse
rejected. Fe prelerrcd te others pfopoei "'''' =
On :he motion OF Nj tIrzruoa the COMMITTEES 4
The House adjourned till o'clock.
When the Convention re assem- led the House resolve,
itself into a Committee % the Whole
The former question being pending,
MIR Scorr SAID his expectation 10 renew tie dis
c"sHon Much less did he expect the renewal u " to-day
tbs ~ oIiuue 10 he different from gentleman ifoi
CheSieheid as 10 health That alone would induc
him not TO embark IN the discussion He expected lcn
vote on the question the friends Of tie Executive he'd
All flufr-
subject vas formerly lost The impression that It wou
not exercise The deciscn was thought that e,ne
we should have Council on rot There weight OF a,gu
both side Of the question lie ondcavo.rd 10 steer
middle course Tie stated the his plan-lh7t Ot
should have Licnt Governor &c II there Council
we u'uS nave Lieut. Governor" Ills plan embraces ue-1
objects u MS proposition adopted he strike th
second resolution Ills plan differed from that of the gentleman
Governor tie Council proposed 10 alov him
adOp 81 t some OF the arguments Ar L. ~ moi app
me proposition NE offered Is their advice worth TolNUs
whehrrynu pursue not Will you tel, the commander in
Chief 10 call council OF and ohe H. 50 the
argument Of tho gentleman from Northampton zen
tlcrnau ou Chesterfield has only suffered rain o the
"scraich" u was ouly the scratch I've felt ic MIR wou
aNpea Z" r oH OF me House ira the Executive had ac;cC
badly on the cuuuly II very Cicu persuade gentle
men Tho enter nio the defence of the present system chang
N"u"n alarming Their fears This department required h
feared hc arruidne Erc lie would attempt follow
the gentleman from Chesterfield his arguments directed
against The proposition oi the gentleman fum fIedcrck,
against the popular election o Governor These rcc tcr
f"''ns few DAYS oso The sane arguments applied lh
he agreed with the gcn from Clrs;crclJ tia, tho
governor should tr ir.pous.le
We od that the " the Governor were nm record
Ncwegc told by hc gentleman Lum Charlotte, whom he o.
Gcict not 10 see n h seat, hI publicity soul
virtue" We have been told thai t Council ,v,s cv-r'r
because perpetual That the condition Of tie Council B.,
recommends And then when Governor come, u Inc vii
find two Councillors Of whom know their business We
were told that this lc responsible Executive in
world lie considered valuable feature. Al then char
arierscs ore retained 10 his proposition Fst told
perfect auamoly 10 make c ounc inferior person
10 ice advised VIII you place those powers the hands
Council without controul the bands OF tine GovcW0G
According t0 his proposition te Governor may consult h
Councfor, and may stand st go forward on his own re-
sponsbHy We thus strike te golden mean, and cc the Go
vernon from tine mpWauou Of sinister motives
views.
lie referred observation ne heard f1 ihc gentleman
from Orange Instead OF having Governor AMI Councillors
wc have GUyruos aui Councillor BE compared t,- rc
tion u which te Governor stood 10 the present Executive
Council 90 that OF Governor Sancho Drscr pcsruc The
Governor may propose huI ti'c Council VIII resist
For these be said ne would against any Cnu.
ell constituted ~ the present
The question the amendment 90 the amendment, tcr
pot, aud carried w the negative eyes ~, noes IS
Mr. tulHcCu proposed 20 amend Tire amendment by the fo
lowing resolution:
"Rso'rci That hc Executive Council ought ~ be- abol.