Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-11-05

ldUwatef TO the biuc Ridge con ans l371a6 whites
-eo5,5ol slaves: the taxes amount to Si6t.I70 !
There twenty mine counties and tiiiy-eyht rep
resctstves. EQuaized uccorGing To the white pop
latl0n oasis there would DO sXty-six rcprcsen a
being gain OF eight In the dis rict below tide water
ncre are 6S7 wntes--lT6 ,496 slaves-the taxes
are Slj7, T56-iherc thiry-six counties aud four
b,rnugns, having seventy representatives Equal
lied according to the while population basis, there
would be bity mine representatives, being loss of
seventeen
70 rene " these inequalities, and deliberate as to
what snail be Tor the benefit of Virginia. we have
met in Convention. lie had made other calculations
an one which shews that Ia as east Virginia Is
concerned, there would be pcrccptible difference
between basis of federal numbers, and combination
al persOns and iaNutiOn. The difference would not
b. but two representatives in House of Delegates
Cons sting of 20 members. Was 1t wise, he asked.
to equaliZe the inequalities of government on any
score. II 81, i'll wha,? There can be no other true
basis hut that of 5as NJ the representation MA
ty of reemcr. Property is useless unless as il flows
through the channels o society; aud through society
alone, ought to be represent cd lie would efcr any
t6ng 10 the aristocr'cy Of money. making property
representation independent OF propery.-GiviuS
such power TO property would be in fact making a
| House of Lords He asked the committee to look
at the operation OF tho principle in it, basing on
Secu Us aud not individuals Then sectional aud
geographical differences would cusue--yhc basi.
would be hatctul-and would discomfort all that pur
ton OF the Sla'e which was not slave holders lie
had always considered it in vain 20 bring the subject
OF slave property into the discussion, for lie believe,
q
IL. But the discussion had been forced. ind we must &c
into it, What good would result from kins
a.! the Slaves into representa- ions Gentlemcn have
argued IA u al! appropriation of the cast slave
io.Grrs-iIe did no; know Tie TACT, but he believed
there WAS INA iOsiy who we're not shareholders
! SIND Whatever basis you viii TO the pcopl--,ll,
moral influence Which elects rcyrcsen satves is hos
ue 20 this - SECULAR Interest. II ihC sllvc-hoIInr
saves feel - thc.- dctv - make the slave; M,
A. ne amount o. Their projections VIII not thl
S'o,S'ye ha'asrS ~ tie cas-, join with those
90 '.s U'Si. - taN ms ps lNerty- IL feared /;
V--.- b -. " Whatever NAV lie said about
2sSslye sad 9Sta-a! -.tS there would % no great
:, -'tt-y between itc man Who had 40 Slave and
t!s '4tvc-ho.1cr- l.c former are ent'rcly opposed
- la. Sori . ''cI-c- : liz graf interest OF ,hc
S@v-Sccr ooDS,l,o' tie p-odom.nl;iug interest in
80 Last, aC - would n,-ur lis wish 70 protect it,
--S '.'c-Ai 40 SaW aaoth = Way tAan HAT which
- r.r1'i-2 sea IN "a on tie her Sio had srca.
: ttC; Nd tae night Of sG.i.aE ~ upon tll bl-
s. D. not gentlemen Perceive that The basis of The
aga; .: suffrage - circle wH.ch contains ali the
Par,S-tie pow er Of making laws and the power 20
taiS right beyond tie tielIci5er. enrraj on vour
CONSTITUTION Principle which would u hostile to
,'iat sc..1.de aiU - ary government which would lie
found q upon I've Sla-lj 10 longer wear after
year, .l.c ainJej ii oar eu.s. tie PRAYERS Of ,rIr
Northern brethren, ti- itg TO send III, fee
blacks ID AlIica-- T.crs va. sc an enrul, az = M.
o'ertna r.d-n % mountains w-;ch have Al WAYS zen
con>ideIed our strength Tho citizens oi taat rc
glol Will come over lie mountains and infil,e iLa,
feelings INTO every mar who IS not slave hol Ter
These men viii go 20 the polls and vote for N r.
VINO VIII tax the slaves. How DO you retain the
property Of the siavefor the slave Is noilinn moro
thanProperty, but by The strength of society Iisel-
by the power residing in the great body of the noor
community, who kecg every thing still in Vlrylnia.
As this power protects the slave II wou.d DnIkc -
bear all the burderS Of pro. eciion.
Mr.. L. sad that his same difficulty as to the
tcXat!o1 oi the savn would in determining the
basis OF the oth"r branch That proPc y he repre-
SON. a1 = nfssagr l.
ry man out for this would hnk hInlselfand his prop
crty safe under the protection of the government
Dut TINS peculiar property, Is ike holding wolf By
the ear We know noi whether It l. wise TO hold on
or tn let hin 60 He trusted however that the.
principle Tor which our flthcrs blel would be held
sacred at all hazards.
After few remarks on majUritics Mr. GonpoT
referred 20 the amendment under considerations Uc
had hoped that gcn;lcmcn would rot have toncbcd
the subject OF the Senate until the resolution con
cernmg that body should be regularly before the
/ COMMITTEE, lie supposed that gentlemen intended
that that House would be permitted to remain =
check upon the other, and that the Convention v,,ulI
not insert Ill the constitution OF the first branch q
pruciple which was unhcard of, except perhaps in
spmeoi ihch non Save-hommg states. Some Questioned
the wdom Ut adopting this priuc pic INTO tn FEEDER
al constitution, aud II II would have The effect OF
making property tho basis Of representation in tho
state governments he should be opposed to it: but
That mad no bearing the present question since il
was to be viewed in the nature Of Treaty with a
foreign government, league 10 prc"cnt the en-
croachmcnt Of foreign powers. Nor did hc regard
the formation Of the L. 5. Senate entitled TO any
weight IN this discussion IN opposition the princ
pie that maortlcs should be based on numbers alone
When that representation for the Senate vas fixed
/ twas by compact betty republican atatcs acting
distinct sovcreigntIes each havinr an ca ol CLAIM,
! To 70 represented. Consequently numbers could
| have no Influence on thai question which was one
relating 20 the Sovereignty ofthe states. lie con.
led that numbers tho only legitimate basis Of
m1lorltlcs; al the sumo limo that IT, admitted thai
maJontIes might sometimes do wrOug, but there
could MOI be found general. so safe depository of
power lie did not regard tho illusions 70 England
rs opposite or having force cont nding hat Eng
land mad become Notwithstanding inc orninal free
dom # her institutions, little better thsna military
despotsrn Take tho arms from the hands of The
soldiers who employed 90 keep down the spirit of
the people and they VII at once rise and rid them.
selves of debt which will otherwise result in ruin.
He rdculed the l1ca Of holding up tho ro heat and
Liooiy bone' oftho French revolution TO charm tho
people Of this country, and 90 prevent us from re-
forming our institutions, lest should bring on our