Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1829-06-16

The Speaker Order, order. The Hon. Gen
tieman al the table must withdraw.
Mr.: O'Connell then withdrew amid much
confusion, but without, We believe, attempting
to make single observation.
Mr.. Brougham again rose, and, in the tumult
which prevailed, endeayoured to make himSeii
heard. He said, no one was more disposed
than himself 10 bow with submission to the
opinion Of the Chair, but on this occasion he
could not help thinking that the opinion DELI
vered by the Speaker was erroneous, and that
the Hon Gentleman who had just left the table
had right 10 be heard in defence of his claims.
Hear, hear.
The disorder at this moment was so great,
,ha, the Speaker was compelled imperatively
to direct the Members below the bar TO take
their places. AS soon as order was restored,
Mr.. Brougham repeated his belief that the
Speaker had misconstrued the Act, when he
came TO the conclusion hat the Hon. Member
for Clare had NOT according 10 the usages Of
Parliament, right 10 address The House. The
first fiji uly which presented itselfin his case
arose from the Hon Member for The County Of
Clare being ordered to withdraw; and while he
was attempting 10 gain hearing The Speaker
called HIM TO order, and the Hoo. Member
withdrew, and was thus preo luded from speak
ing on :he question Nov if i. were at all
doubtful whether :he Hon. Member had right
to be beard in his own behalf, he thought ha,
question nigh, have been disposed Of before
the Hon. Member was compelled 10 leave the
House; bu, now that he had Withdrawn, he
! (Mr. Brausham) woul! state his cpinion OF the
matter as il new God, which was, that acting
on principle, and according 10 the nsAgrs Of
Parliament, he was Of opinion raj the ques
ticn ough, to be so far discussed as to sa isfy
The House thar they WIRE now following ror-
| rect COURSE. He thought also that the Hon.
| Gtn l-man ought 10 br allowed TO state his OBJ
| jrciiohs TO the lax ng of The oalhs. With pro-
| found respect TO tae Chair, he mus beg III de-
ny his authority in determining his qnes ION
|: was question Of he greatest importance,
and hr opinion Of no single Individual, either
| in or out OF The Chair, ought to bind the House.
The opinion oc the whole House ought 10 be
aiken. According to he c"nstfu' 'i"n which
was now put on the law, the Hon. Membe' for
Clare was 7re,laded from addressing 'ne House
on subject which affected his personal rights.
lie commended that h, (Mr. O'ConnrlD had a
| right 10 be heard d, he table, without taking
| the oa,hs, for the purpose of stating his ohjec-
| ions TO those ouhs; ard Tor Ibis hr could pros
duce two or three preccdents The PROPOSE.
| lion he had 10 submit 20 The House WAS, that
! d mt mber eligible speak al The tab', be-
| fore he took lie .. hs and his seat. Tee FIRST
case he had 10 refer 10 was that of Sir Henry
| Monsou, no was re,rFued in 1859. lie Sc
| cond was that Of Mr. A,ohdale. Sir Henry
| Monson was a.ksd what objection he had 10
axe the O4th Of Supremacy: and he replied,
| that his objections were personal 10 hl'Dse.,
, and had not he least tendency 10 disturb the
Government The country. Now il appeared
! by the imperfect records which had come down
TO US, aud by Parliamentary history, that he
| was permitted 10 speak . lew sentences, in ex>
| plonation Of his objections TO subscribe 10 the
oaths. The House, however, was not salishrd
with The reas MS he assigned, and he was di
| rected TO Withdraw, and new wri was order
ed. But what ne wished 10 call the attention Of
tho House 10 was that which took place b fore
ne new writ was isSued-namely, that Sir
Henry Monson was heard al the table OF the
House. In the case Of Mr.. Archdale, also, it
appeared he vas permitted 10 state his reasons
Tor IT fusing 10 take he oaths. In third case
Che alluded &c that Of Lord Fanshawe, which
was also The oase Of refusal 10 take the ualhs)
the proc ceilings were not very distinctly given;
but he a?preIrr.'dcd, in that instance, his Lord
| ship was likewise heard al the table previous
to beng ordered To withdraw. II, adop ing
the course Of these precedents, the Hous'
should br Of opinion that The hon. member for
Clare ought To be heard, then The House would
o' der him 10 be recalled, end having heard his
ohjec IONS he would b. orde red to withdraw,
aud The House would hen deal with The ques
ton as i, snould think proper. The question
was II h h'st im2or ance, and each step
,ha, was aiken IN il ought 10 be taken only al
| ter the fulesD d.liberatron. The hon. mrmbrr
| conc! uded, by moving thar the hon. ntembrr 70,
Clarr he called ba TX, and neard in his own be-
hair al he table uf the House.
Mr. Secretary Peel said he need scarcely
remind the House that he question now pro-
posed came before them in heir s,rict Judicial
capacity, and must be decided according 10 tn
laws Of Parliament, and The strict letter Of The
sIatute. Upon the question itself he did not
entertain a doubt thar The learned gentleman
could not address III, House before the oaths
were raken, b'cause, if ne did, every other mem
Der who might feel SO disposed, would have
an equal RICH, TO raise objections 20 the oa,hs,
10 the prescribed oAlhs Of the House. The
law was positive in directing hat every MEM
Der should take The oaths before he took his
seat, and, befove taking the oaths, it was qui'e
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