Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-10-10

IL was due to the feelings Of large portion oc,,
Peopie--not indeed malority-who are attnch INC INC
, wnoie government as II exists, that the Convex,
S'h shoulu refer that whole TO all the wisdotn oc,t
state. Adopt the other course and what mus, ne re
INC consequence Committee Of Thirteen men CO
aW'm anu change the Legislative Department.
WI, tue other states nave entire confidence in IT,
wisdom OF that change. A COMMITTEES of tbr,. nu
examine the executive department. Will the ,.,,,.
OF ther investigation inspire the nation with conf.
dcnce' a Committee OF thirteen remodel d.. 'c ;..u
cnh department Will their reform con,,ranS Juu'-
versal approbaton9 0'"'aha UNI
IL was useless to say that these repor,s ,,o,,,
Th.y will come sJ Joay ag1In. How will they Gomez
mi''ce ana advocated by those who arc nj, Oo'i-
carry tho report through. But adont H. Neeu 20
ION onn the work VIII go step by stem j.; ,I.
committee OF the whole, and every ou.s,;p ~ 'ue
determined as they proceed. But send ,In WI VIZ, %
10 select Committees, and the maortea o scuISect
committees will be found pledged to SUPPORT ,bs;
S,slons: IA organized phalanx will como into Nh,
Noi"iItee oi the whole TO sustain what those Co.,
mittecs will report. ' Noui-
ii' eonsIcered the question now under discussion
as one OF mere form and order. He had cons;Jero,
Il important, perhaps i'm reference IN G,,,,o IS eu
SONS, 10 say something OH the subject Uo hJ c.
To Ge his duty to give exposition of his motives 49,
he inc subject involved nothing beyond tho 6or, ~
.ner Procoeu,hga' IL would be treating the Convex.
ton improperly, were he TO Consume more IS -
/ time. 0'S vi 'ie!E
Mr' MERCER rose in reply and stated that bo w,.
~ "h ; wy" Tue gentleman from Norfolk rose
whi he
sustain h,s substitute, and he also - "ou' 1
those generons feelings Of that oentlem,rs 80, WI
from which, should lac be found in error IL, east
hau proceeded but, hc t::ough, he could shev hr I.
reference 10 ms own arg unents that he b.d i, u
course OF them departed from the rronnS - INC
trs started, although at the close he had re,nrrs ~
IL again. In the commencement of his aro,r,a. y,
Viu stated that, there Was no principle involved in
TINS question. But subsequently, the gep,lanan III
traced the origin of the CONSTITUTION .rd ~ '
ro"nccd On culngy on the State 20 which Mr. A.
~" s1lu, hiS own heart yielded Wa. there NO
pm" P'c 'ete-i lie gentleman had said that If bis
course was not pursued, tho Committees would conro
INTO the House organized into nhaanxes 20 Co.
through their reports. Was there no nrinc;rIo :;
.h's:-f Tncip'c could not bur be- involved whara .
forms of proc eeding were touched nv uh;h .i
Convention had been called tor.ther H. a. '"c
VINO ti!nH that there defects in the Cons.;,r,;
!" ,"cii attempts to reconcile them, can be cbnrgcJ
~, "csrhs 10 tear IL 10 picces-he knew no,
l ne gentleman treats the Consti ,ltion az =, ,;,
oclng but IN doing go, he had treated ,h, S.:,'
Ton certainly with no more respect thnn tho -
W ~ dispose" seriously 70 set about the reformation
% us errors lie course of those who preferred tho
iNePort OF the committee first to ascertain Il tbor
were twenty-four members who were of on;n;on 81
ccts existed before they were willing TO submit, tho
quesoto the crude notions any, for the p,rpose Of
suggesting amendments, however trivial M 49,
ton had been put TO twenty -four members en,hra,
all the Senatorial Districts and :llis in Some d.,
representing the whole State. After jiscoya;ss L9
iis committee OF twcnty-tour Members copc,rreS
Convention
cecded To act Was this treating the Governpn,.
with !evity Was this tearing Il usunder aud c,
tcT!ng Its limbs abroad-for the purnoso oc 60.
az this course disrospectful to those drpt
men VINO had formed it>--CeTtainly NOT TIC r.,
mttcc had recommended n course wkcJ, IN oil -,
was respectful TO the Constitution and was caIcul,
ucu 10 produce an harmonious cooperation Of pubic
OPINION m i's result As question of form he CON
sidered the present question. lit WINS rue tba, 81
proposition OF the gentleman from Norfolk ,vonid
save time, The argument of the gentleman voriJ
nave more weight. Blu, it must be obvious tbnt -
the Coi;e.t.On take Tic COURSE proposed bv tho Co
m;iee Of twenty -four, they would ret throuob ~
business much sooner, than ifthey place thescyes
situation, ~ which they must take every pronoc;.;
Wh'ch any member may offer III u Committee of tbe
whole. Plain arithmetic will settle this ouos,;,r
II was said that the whole ofthc Constitution cnnnt
with pTopricty, he considered in this way He e5
iilieu tat all governments were resoluble into @
glsi"HVc, Executive and Judicial But the gentleman
"hcn lac hrScli mad said that these branches nv thor
mngling together rcsembled the melting of tho col
os OF the rainbow ought not to have reflected ON the
committee appointed under the fifth resolution no
m's,n@ ho'nne 10 10 The gentleman himself proves
tuht thWt Committee would haye something IN do
IN re were subjects which were not L civ To be octod
on ny cter ut the other Committecs-which would
CONC uhncr the cognl7uncc Of this Committee
mere are rights belonging TO individuals which b,ve
nti yet been surrendered, which my como undo th
cognihhce of ell the Committees in common. for m
"ir i"s unV particular province to residary RIGHTS
| LOOK rom the thcorCticni to the practical diff
cul'y' / lac npre son of the gentleman WAS this
that the Convention can not well frono Co
vernncn' Legislative, Executive and Judicial, by
'i'rve Cohmitiees 'ctlng at once-because ono
WI perform 'he duties which belong to another
me remedy would be this: the Convent mus
take UP the Report which was first made. Take
tn' c"sn put by The gentleman from Norfolk Tho
iO'Vcn ''n " called to act the Report concernpy
the veto. The Report from The Legislative Commit,
! zee Is made and decided upon. The Executive RE-
p't' co'nS IN, but the question has been already DO
cih1d' Does any member waEt n neyy decisior,
None. No loss oftiinc hae been sustained Tbmro
/ - second decision. Why should tho Cnnvcntion he
y called on to decide the questions agap' The sygn.
mont then ~ the gentleman from Noffuli, was no.
changed its opinion Suppose decision had been
mace on ono RtpOrt, and majority should after
wards believe that decision to nave been ncorrect
Tue remedy was az hand II only necessary 10
suspend the rule, To 0ko the question again and TO
reverse tue decision Tho only tune which would hive
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