Lynchburg Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1829-185?, 1829-12-14
VOL. VIlI.--NO. b.


not satisfied with this, he was willing To give
them carte blanche, TO strike on, either of the
ih're rntios mat they pleased, aud he would
pledge himself that every Eastern member
would support them IN II, lie then remarked,
that The gentleman from Frederick had not en-
tended his calculations 10 the Senate. He OBJ
served on the objections Of gtniemen that his
plan did not embrace an imperative iejunetion
upon the Legislature 10 apportion The represen-
tntien by the future increase of the Wesl--but
he was perfectly willing 10 oblge them in this
respeci--he would make II imperative oil the
Legislature TO make this appoftionment--and
he would accordingly move 10 strike out of his
I'd resolution reading that 1" the Legislature
shall have power 10 re- -arraogc the representa-
ton IN both Houses OF the General Assembly,
once IN every years, Upona fair average
OF the following ratios the words " have pow
@ 10 y In this way, he sad he was prepared
10 show his deposition To compromise substan.
tally whereas gentlemen proposed IN their
compromise TO give up nothing which wa can
not now get for ourselves A. 10 future events
he stated that II the West grow, as Was expect
cal. his principle OF appoiiIunment would give
them the power IA which Iu.y 49,. rai,y s"ii
tied. Mr.. u. stated, thai IN making these pro.
positions, he would repeat with his friend from
Charles City, that he looked 10 The General in.
look TO the representation oil his own county Of
Accomac lie concluded with pr, senIng his
proposit ion, thus explained, 10 his Western
brehren--and he would permit them 10 strike
though their pen either OF the ratios Which they
did not Like
Mr.. DOddridgc nnmndyer,od upon certain
remarks made by gentlemen on this floor
one had said that he had planted his standard
and would MOI submit To tho principle OF mum,
ber1-another, had pronounced IL TO he an
nsuppOriable tyranny-nnd another that IL
was rank Jacobinism. (Mr Randolph said
aloud lIwas Jaeobonism) MIR. d. said this
was CANDID, and be would DO equally so--thni
he would plant his standard on The basis ol
white population IN the House Of Delegates
and allowing the federal basis IN the Senate
III would not say, he would no, submit for
II this Convention should adopt Constitution
and The people should agree 10 il, he wonld
submitto II. He said, gentlemen had warned
us OF the consequences of rejecting their pro.
positions, and he would remnd gentlemen.
thai tbM sword had n double edge. lie asked
wat great mlsehiVfs were 10 arise from no,
adopting amy Constitution The members
" 'uld return home only 10 live under the
Constitution under which the people had So
long liVed--a Constitution which had borrow
Ell all IFS Unequal IiiGs from tho natural course
oil events for which the gentlemen OF the East
were not IN blanca Constitution. which had
descended 10 them, aud The advantages spring.
'ng from which were a fair and legilmaia &C
QUESTION But, he asked, what would he the
situation Of the Western members, II they re
arnsd home with new Constitution. reGog-
nizi1g sucha principle in The House Of Ode
gates as The members lrom the East were
conIending foi They would be censured for
al L..
never would assent To IL. To such "A principle
he would never agree ! and he thought II due
10 the Convention 40 to asow himself.
Mr. Rdndoiph rose 10 express his saiiGlac.
ton aud surprise. that after all the complaints
which the gentleman from Brooke, Mr.. bod.
dridgl bud mhde against this old Constitution,
thar gentleman could al last reconcile himself
to live under H. lie declared thai 30 strongly
impressed was lac with the opinion that the
gentleman from the West would gain all by
carrying the House OF Dclegaies he was deter
IA nod ia ihat event 10 vote ibI the basis Of the
white population IN The Senate. and grant that
House also to the gentleman. With the House
of Delegates against them, OF what use would
be the Senate II would nol DO the Balkan
but a mere mountain of sand.
Mr. Coulter read written speech TO the
Comtuittec--deGlnring that he was IN favour
convinced thai, under existing circumstances,
this measure So plain, aud 30 easily understood
by every one. will reconcile more people TO II,
on all sides of the question, and country, III an
any other thai II is nov IN our power To adopt
that the principle Of the resolutions (oi the
gent leman from Northampton had, therefore,
his hearty appreciation aud cordial support.
g" Gentleman said he. have planted their stan
dard. now plant mine firmly III Lower Vir
einia. think she has idH, Justice and sound
policy Ia her favour, and much OF the spirii OF
cOnctiidiiOH.'
Mr. StaHdrd commented on the calculations
Of Mr.. Co"ke-and he commended that the pro.
position oil numbers TO be assigned 10y the
gentleman from Northampton TO the East aud
the Wes' allows 10 the West greater proper
lion of Delegates than the principle Of quaiH.
cd rioters would give--estimating the number Of
qualified voters by the number Of lau paying
people, stated on The AUDITORS books. lie sta.
ted lhs' the combination Of the basis OF White
popuation and the Federal ba is coincide al.
most precisely with the principle OF qualified
voters Tue gentlemen IN the West then IN
taci lost nothing by conforming to this combi-
naion-they bad only assumed the white
population as the exponent of the qualified yo-
ters- and ifthIs number was equivalent % the
result OF this combination, he asked the Wesj
what they WIRE TO gain by rejecting the propot
slton Of the gentleman from N0rtbamp on
Tie presented these observations 10 the gentle
man oftho West IN the same spirit which the
gentleman from Frederick had addressed the
Committee and which had commanded his
unfeiened respect Mr.. 5. stated that The I'd
resolution Of Mr. U. did not fully meet his APP
probadon.--il adopts the number of 80 for the
Senate, but This being divided by 4, does not
allow an equal quolieni without a fraction. the
-four expressing the number ofyeais for which
the Senator Is chosen, preserving the present
classification OF The body. He himself would
prefer 80 for the number Of tho Senate, as.
signing 20 the West IL members, and 10 10 the
East
MIR, Gordon moved the following as sub
siItute
+" Ees0iUed, That the representation in III .
Senate and House of Delegates Of Virginia,
shall be apportioued as follows:
Tbara ehall he IL Senators w., FL .