Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-21


this subject: and canddly TO say whether the plan
proposed does Justice The cri,a,ry in which they
1--we: To say whether srch basis o. represent a.
ton IL one which any Government can be cxpec-
ted long tn stand,
SAY again, that no comparison will hold, ms to
any one ~ the other States but THAT il does hold rs
u respects the two portions Of the Union, under tho
Federal Government. What did Virginia contend
for, when that compact entered iutol That The
black population should he excluded III representing
her in tho General Government No. Sir: no such
thing. she maintained the principle, that r"prrscil.
taton and taxation should 60 hand in hand: that II
the enumeration of her population to be reduced
OH account of the slaves Slnud her taxation be-
reduced a,so she never could be safe. Such was
her demand, aud such the decision at the Gen
eral Government: and, accordingly her tGNatnu was
laid IN proportion to the number of her inhabitants
which was allowed IN the enumeration.
But n ~ said, thu this Is uniar'ha' Il is merely
supposed case, aud proves nothing. Well, them let
us leave supposition. and CONF to actual realities
will take An.tcrs' whose population Is 10000. and
will take Harrison, whose population also is 10000,
while the white populnton Is hoo Here are two
counties, with tho same populations: and how stands
their taYation' Amherst pays 5000, Harrison hut
$3.50 Now, on the principle oi the white basis of
Representations Harrison will get two representatives,
and Amherst only one, (unl not quite ;h9t J Here,
then, yoH have Amherst. paying 1900, and Harrison
MT 5000: difference IN taxation, IN favosr uf Har-
rson Of ? Ia /; and Amherst with representative,
aud Harrison with ;: anotiicr difference in fnyor of
tlnrrsnn, OF 10 I: Put the o. advantages lurether
aud Harrison, by the white basis gets ! to owe.
Amh"rs., Can Amherst approve :his' contend,
TINT sch system is not safe ore. Tic same
thing will nike place al through the State.
We have come here 10 contend about tho TreaS,-
~. know that no man cone upon nv LAID.
and deprive OF the possession of IT. but What So
curlty is his. if lac can>teS it rs he plcoscs, ill he
taxes lis whole value away, Und NAV do what he
plcaa,S with the money? Whit cun doa ! NAV
; complain and over so loudly: but TINT is all. Two
Gun always vote down on, and If tbs power Is TO he
gwen, in my judgment, we had better not send our
Delegates 10 the Assembly at a ii viii he blIt n
useless trouble aud expense. Say there are fifty
Counties hike Albcmarle, and another fifty hike D,. ~
mghnnr the ono Of these c,--- iii nave CITY re.
aFcs-,,.',s, tae other Will haze 100. What chance
can there be for he fifty? And extend tie same
state Of things To the whole Commonwealth, and
whcIe viii Be the difference;
But then we have heard something very consolaio-
ry about three tcnths Three tcnthS il less than ono
third Albemarlc IS 10 ret something norc-wcU,
give her the three tcnhS-and then Buckingham will
have 100 Delegates, while Aibcmarle has &C. A gain
ask, what chance will there be for hlbemarlc?-
Suppose through NEE oversight she Is only taxed
according to her ability TO pay, but the pol! tax has
TO be paul What chance will she have to rcsis,
such an Oppression;-What possibility is there H. -
she should be able to CoTtr"i any measure Of finance
whatever Has she any, the least chance TO defend
herself None whatever. I rcpeat we ,ainh inst
wel,to all practical purposes, leave tie western
delegates 10 lrgislate for by themselves without
giving ourselves The trouble to attend
No Sir. II nur Government is to stand, representa-
ton mus, be IN pr portion 10 taXatiun deny us this
md tho rrsult will be oppression.
Under these impressions, and on these PRINCIPLES
shall vote here. shall! vote not for the representa-
ton of Sd "f huck populations but for The iohoie
of II. say that Eastern Virginia is entitled Justly
entitled TO the whole; ned when she consents 20 the
Federal number, she makes great concession.
S fan s6 she sSoy paG in
gcnilcmnn's speech
Mr. Scorr moved to lGy the first resolution OIL the
table
Mr. D-DpnpGE said Iio should like to know why
the resolution should 10 laid on the table.
Mr.. ScoTT said he thought would be more expe-
dent tn take up the spcctng the Senate
when he considered the state of the maolcs in the
Convention.
n"ntary that an enemy Of the resolution should pro-
pose 10 postpone II.
Mr. GoRpo~ said be should vote for the motion os
it would stop discussion.
Mr.. DoDuHtDGE opposed Il, and called for the ves
and noes
Mr.. ScoTT said he was informed that he was strict
y &C ing according to parliamentary usage and alu-
ded to the course of gentlemen in other cases.
The quo, tlon then put.
AYEs.-Mcssrs. Jones, Il. w. Leigh, Sam1 Tay-
Tor, Giles, Brodnax, Dromgoole Alexander Goode
Marshall, Tyler, n chnlas, Clopton J.Y. Mason Trez-
want, Claiborne, Urquhart, Randolph VIM. Leigh,
Logan, Venabc, Madison, Z. p. Barbour, Stanafd,
IioIlad,y, Roane, WIN. p. Taylor Morris, Garnctt,
J. .. Barbour, Scott, Macrao, Green, Tazewel Low
all, Prcntis, GrIgsby, Branch Towncs, Martin,
Plcusnnis, Gordon, Massio, Rose, Bates, Ecalc Coal
-, 5oyacs, Bayly, Perrin, Upshur-5O.
NoEs.-Messrs. Anderson, Coifman, Harrison, Will
llamson, Baldwin. Johnson, NJ Coy, Moore, Bclrnc,
Smith, Miller, Baxter, Mercer Fitzhugh, Henderson,
Osborne, Cooke, Powell, Griggs, j. Nj. Mason, Nay
Tor, Donaldson, Boyd, Pcndle0n, George, NTMilan,
L. Campbell, Byats, Cloyd, Chapman, Mathews. o.
gesby, DUNCAN, Lnidey, Summers, Sec, Doddridge,
Morgan, Alexander Campbell, Wilson, VIM. Camp
bell, Clayton, Saunders, Cubcl, Stuart, Thompson,
10.
So the amendment was laid on the table.
Mr. ScOrr moved to take up the proposition Of M.
Cooke in Committee OF tho Whole nov Oh the table;
and on the question, the ayes and noes were called
for.
Mr. COOKE said if it taken mp it would not be
with iIs consent.
Mr. SUMMERS wished To- know how il happened
that this bantlng Of the west now TO DO under
the special protection of It's enemies,
Mr.. LElGH said hs motive for taking charge OF il
TO hill IL.
Mr.. ScoTr said lac could zee No uniairness in his
course. lie only Wished 20 act upon one subject
FIRST and tho gentleman on another.
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