Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1829-12-01

"hSOIred, That shall be compelled TO fequen, or
s"pp1 any sesous worship place. or ministry whatsoever
BODY or goods, shall otherwise suffer
enns opinions llef bu, that all shall be iree pro
less and by argument maniag their opinions IN of
eson and that the shall IN wise dnmnsh enlarge,
or affect their civil Capacities"
MIR. BRoDxAx which
ne afterwards withdrew aud other proposition snend
bems offered, the Committee proceeded take up residue
at the 9Th resolution, Is follows:
THAT the Legislature shall have power prescribe any
religious sect whatever establish by hw any subodma
uon or preference be,Nei different denominations,
2 p,a' piviese- OF advantages on any one sect OF
denomination over others amy !lw requiring au,ho
Es any religious society, tire people OF any district whn
ms commonwealth, to levy themselves oT>oher
io the erection OF repair OF house for public worship,
the support ct amy church ministry, hut that I've left
ps.'n 10 r'ct whom he p'eases as his religious 'nsuc
tor aud to make for his support such private
peaeS Provided however that the foregoing clauses shall
oe so construed as TO permit minister Of the gospel,
priest OF any denomination" to be eligible to either House OF the
General Assembly
Mr.. CooSf moved to strike the provi.o
m ponnEiDGE said be should As often be disposed refuse
&c vote Tor ministers of the Gospel the Lcgsl
"te bot ne dd not desire to TIE restrained lie though, the
argument OF the preceding art OF the resolution
ruh the prnlcrie of this rrovIso
MIR BnopS,x said that the practice Of other was
conformity with tire principle oi the proviso y the New York
Convention, ministers excluded from every office
oaver For ministers individually and ally he felt
The highest respect There fear Of union Church
ana state, bat there why they should be
cludcd nm the Halls of csisaon lie thought, if
Ia reference any brought before legislature
would be impossible that minister would he able with
ont suffering his feelings minister of particular
operate his course, unknown himself lie thought
maj IN other cases there would be obvious injury fom adj
mission Of ministers.
A psDpsIOGS SAID the Interpretation of the principle
be t r. t to proieas W and ' S II
PROVIDED he does not do il in the pulpit
Mr. CooSE had moved strike the proviso, because
without adequate di,tnnchiset the vnnus
class Of society lie also considered gentleman from
brooke, that the prOys principle of tic
previous part of the resolution.
Mr. Courra said he opposed to the motion strike
@ pTovso because SAID by the OF the ministers
! az me gospel that his Kingdom isun o. ;h. world
MT bRooNNN >a the discrepancy which had been pointed
on beiw cen his resolution and the povso existed in the old
Constitution Kentucky, Tennessee and New York, and he
anew not how many Other States had provisions similar that
which was contained in his resolution
Mr. Cookt said he assured that less than eighteen
% states had admitted the clergy to all the privileges of other
Ems II therefore authority weigh all its weight
against the proposition the prov;sn The authority of the
Constitution of Virginia ccliarly curred to weight but
was m9hah!e ttat y was inserted in that 10y mistake
clergy from holding poweoue by the Legislature in excluding
the clergy, and the other by dvestng Legislature of the
power OF admitting ministers lie should move 70 strike out the
proviso.
Mr. Moons said, minister who ,akes seat in the Lcga-
aad ufte clergy, for the they IAN 10 NEEDLE
With the State, both Church and State are in danger
Air EASUorn said ta> was 10 him. most unlocked for
opposition There ariicl- o his political creed,
ABOUT which he dsuscd doubt than of the
pEopretv OF cvcutn, class of rrn dedicated IN tie ofcc,
OF religion from the possession OF political power. gentle
man ha> said that bat Tor that oviso tr Constitutions
would not exclude them from the Legislature tie would
eT vote 10 strike such provisions hcr aud have
Constitution as ishccause, he always was now IS
ever shan be practical IA, and when lie
them jT ,it fears than applaud the Judgment foresight
they exhibited Tie Con,r,;'ca in.; saie
could da!e I5uce such legislation the language Of
I'M p'ov'so imports In another part of these amendments
TIC Constitution, there another safeguard introduced.
'i we '''i No., no "',afs "i nobility IN THIS coun-
try Wien the time shall. come tst tho people country
are ripe either for union OF Church and STATE fn
vi uI'y' ey "i nave them "'sPie OF all the moi-eaten
p"Tchnenis IN Arcves lie would focs,ly pronounce
gentlemen of the c,, Legislative Halls vas Ipso laco
an union OF Church aud Were iete no other impor
an' considerations he o"u ask to nince preserve
least that pant OF TIE Constitution winch excludes them AS it
now Is Were there other considerations which should
none which every well regulated the clerical
profession ought, Of Itself suggest he had tho pleasure
pac'd-o he acquainted with many men of that rof,s>inn
VINO were OF The most pure and unaffected pc'yofj the gcs
clothed IN that humlvhich was the Alpla and OMEGA of
Their proesslonand he kucr one OF them WHO would
fus' himself IN such situation q drhcra,c !nty-nni
vi u'" WIG, u SNcn an oirT had been made would not
answer"d-"ead us not into tenn ia,on" not their innu
ence paramount, especially the domestic crclcs not
IVY w Se'vc master whose kingdom, rs has bern re
naNes v gen who addressed the onluIiiep E po nj
"', wo', li+rd1iy is to reprovr well as console.
SuIe TO yourself Sir minister of the gospel Of Ceace
going TO Teprovc Of weight and Influence i'm bis
Coy-"hsh county he had 1t the Tine, desire to
''.' ihtic Is no cNclToI on account of Inference
OF opinion as the gentleman from Brooke had stated br i am
exclusion OF an occupation "hchis incompatible with proper
heir duties ~ either branch of the legislature
he principal reason because the duties of legislator are
incompatible and at war with those pastor No man can
busy himself IN northumberland Who elected
without elec,onccrug,no participate in legislative
cabal-no man touch that pitch without benz deh,r
NO man can employ himself without dqualfy,rg INN,
lf ne sacred duties WHICH minister Of Tive cosp! he has
imposed upon himself aud for winch he accountable 10
ms constituents at home bat God who made him and
VINO VA fns " 10 account than he shall have
10 render to his pagis.innery.
iut there Is an ndcccucy in tic thing We heard Of the
exclusion oi ladies' Tie had hesitation "a yng there was
no greater ndCcency in woman's hrusinn herself ia dcin
efdVc assembly member of that assembly or into pol
car cta than IN cergyman's doing the same One of the
greatest masters Of the human heart and Of polial nLoo
100 ever met with, declares while the French are the
ftftaIp ts.p all
e Tess respect aud esteem for them than any other nation and
ne Illustrated this observation thus The Turk the value
I'D which he holds his wife, by locking her up It is n nis'n
zen way bW al least cNlibit, the aton IN which the
Treasure Reid The Frcnchuan other hand permits
ms VIE 10 nnge 10 the affairs of ncn-to busy herself about
poc@ and Madame Roland would nave never assembled Il,
inc sca'i, Il Madame Roland had confined herself 10 her
Dohos'c circle ann not meddei ia the affairs of men } n
women VIII "us"y" temscycs-and If priests Vilyvhat
ha say degrade themselves, by ihrusng themselves into
Poc' cahal5, and ngug for which their nature
ana character render them improper and uuG-ihcy Will lose
e reference and respect they cnjoyihe ladies' will he
unexpected ana treated roughly Ike n,en-tnry will not Lc
heH ~ That esteem which he hoped never bc WANTING in
len and The pres VIII h deprived Of that vcneration which