Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-12-10

the SENATE with the seal of upop
Does not the gentleman from Augusta the chang -,
arsocrary had been asans, Constitution Of Virginia
And Senate with the brand Of ers,orac
onhs 'front.' lie referred 10 the conclusion he gentle,
of,he gentleman from Orange (Nr Matsop) Does he forget
.hat twice IN the Committee, the questions he
in the House of Delegates We vote on thai occasion
receiving his he ners o his eec prop ~1d "
sne sst Gs eyer he @ heard it, and he would
and eHPedi and he concluded by declaring not his opuo
b .ne s s Of the compromise but with sparen'ai advice
oi hiial respect for The gentleman from Riem,n
M. a, ds Iespeeand a. the same time
a sen n mad given the moment before If he r l.
such lial respec, tina, professions of ihe most,
fspect attachment and YET oPPosedsobey his advice
gardne The advice given commentary on il, 1t was an
instance Of what he had already occasion mention as an
anomaly IN Our country that necessity
wiser that their fathers MIR concluded by stating ,het
expect scntia of it from gentlemen from Loudoun
N MthcER rose to explain his Interpretation of the arsu-
merits OF for the gentleman from Richmond which no
remarks he said of the gentleman from CeseEa could eve,
Mr. JonNsoS made few remsrks at first in so low
appeal which the gentleman Chesterfield had made 10 him
70 me charge OF asocracy being brought against Senate
animal let loose meet its doom-fe Alr - would only s1
that he did not concur in the opinion, charge Of ars
He believed the charge be wholly unopnded-he neser
REGARDED the virginia Constitution as ssocract
believed il was weapon powerful weapon when wirlda
in unus, minority this Convention Ii was to deprive
The macontep OF the use of that he had taken the steps he
the Senate exis,s-,hc cry Of mad deg had been
raised against IL, but did share ali these rnof
ANIMALS has mel its assailants and has superior 10
theni and the day afer heard pron6urct
~as moi eno s0h"a of from the
TO he efectual We had the examples States aoed
that The Senares MASSACHUSETTS, New Hampsbre and Of the
~ naies hIa Gesn quoted 10 sustain the calqpromS rs
now sal! body could resist tle capor Of people and
To lie Argument of the gentleman on Richmond sIr rlar<
shall He Wonld put the question in its imposing form
did nk there was more ne IN the form ae of t ,ss
question: than in the substance of the argument? endsa
yoed 10 show that The parties should m:le roln
On all occasions OF compromises that the only ground
Of o5 e enaan,o h's mue soan and what was The eHt
danger of placing power in the hands of minority we were
placing power in the majority Of both Nous:
Ihey on The contrary conened to place hands Off )
e whether it should be in the hands The majority or nofi,;
and he would ask where The middle ground Of compots
be in minority And thus would urrende all VIC ha:
been conendng for The question the pave,
should he entrusted larger or the smaller numb ~;
should be given to neither The only middle ground then
TO give one branch 10 part. and another branch oe
The question then called d.cren, parts of tbs
Rouse IL was al length taken striking Out the wo,
"ReSord in MIR uphoTs resoluion the vote was dnal
announced to be as follows ayes 49, noes 47an the Chs
ayes 49, noes 60 Every member Presetr' Monroe vQir
"a
noes $50 the motion to strife RsoIred" 10.
9 IN other words the motion 10 destroy the resoutiop OF Mr.
Mr. UPsHvR with of testing the sense of the COMM.
nee uon Inc aGfee ratios moved to strike out the 'he
Mr. u then moved further the resolution hy
carted-ayes So ''' "0' '%o'" which wac
81 MI poEe e, N m9yed to amend the resolution by substituting
Mr Madison in the afiFnaive-Mesrs Monroe and NIasa
Mr. seoTr then moved to strike on, tie third roso,o, vt
heSoSrea That the Legislature shall power 10 ar-
iHss e in rS in both HOUSES Of the General
ns Ia's viz; LIST, Of white population 2nd federal
Nj; CooEE said if this motion should prevail and the prnci
pie OF reapportonmen struck the effects would be-
10 nave ConTeRlon every years He said lie wou
Mr. UrsnrR opposed the motion was impossible he coda
t,onment He agreed with the gentleman from Frederick a
The effect Of striking ons hs resolution, would he the cali Of
parties hereafter Than now Tis he conseaG Gfe ayed BY
fair compromise of conflicting neTeslsand If i, i r rue
IL WIZ be always so, as il is adapted to all changes.
MI Scorr said his vote Intended appreciate the pres
by majority of the Committee, could make such an p
@ as %9uid eve us some sure ground 10 stand upon
Mr. Ur5iyH moved that the Committee rise 1t nesa;i
The question was then put on the motion the 81
resolution, and was negatived3I only voting affirm
Mr. MERCER moved strike all from the words sIye3
that in Mr. UPshufs proposition to Insert Tie following IL
Misrepresentation in the Senate be based on the Who,
number OF free PERSONS including those bound r
the aforesaid number ef free persons three fbs of all o
PERSONS aud the Senate shall consist Of number not
ing and its Of service and cla sGcaon rer,a
al present"
MIR Ln6u inquired whether was not the same o,eso,
IN substance which had been already decided lie SO und
stood it.
Mr. PowELt said il was the proposition as that submit,
ted by the gentleman from Goochland OIL pgasant5 rrs
tin Ell Gferatm. - -" 80
Mr. MERCER said il sar1c.
Here some conversation ensued between Mssers ,urot,
S59sfF JOHNSON and IfIen as to the effect Of the oon
Mr. PLFAsASTs said he would against amendment
ne stated his preference for graduated county representation
which, II he could he would adhere his own rouo
ton He was not bound to vote particular wayne d3
not as yet know the sentiments Of his constituents e sa
ton he stood ill., he would depart This could not 10
called improper conduct
NT MERcfR said he had tie srhcs, intention 20 jrv.
tie gentleman from (iOlchland.
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