Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1829-11-28

'e execwyc Hewould prefer siyng Appointing power
10 tns Senae but he would this the number
nave an example When the power Of Appointment was giysm
90 that body the Senate consisted of Only - members: an II
mat purpose then better than has done
became popular body. 80
Ihe question then taken the MIR Dopnaoor
amend and was decided in the ayes a. So
Ar Seorr then moved he had given of his n,en
tlon to do to amend the resolution by striking out ell aad
ihss,tms the following substitute:
ResotUed That in the appotiioumeni representation in
nf senate regard shall be had the
sha consist OF thrtys members and shall have the
same Leg a,ve power oil respects. House Dele
gaes aud all appointments both
OF the legislature shall be made by
Mr. Scorr said that aborns under ndisposi,ion would
DO useless in his situation, attempt DISCUSSION
anu gentlemen had made upxbeir minds he would
aiio" the question to be taken
ne question then taken and the amendment
ured-ayes SO, noes 81
The question then required the amendment Mr. Plea.
Sants-
Mr. JoyNEs strike out the words ga number no,
eHceedns, and to insert in lieu thereof ago.
VT PLEAsANrs said he was satisfied with that number.
The question was then put, the amendment amend
n'e. ana decided in the nesatveIayes ~ noes o.
Mr. BRoDSAx, with "dS," and
Mr. DsDpRip6E, with "4i
Mr. UpsnuR distinctly declare his form some
constitution which would be agreeable TO the people, and he
was disposed favor of distribution of the egis
fave power would full security East he would
not vote for any proposition which did give considerable
Increase the Senate Gentlemen ough, grant such security
as wa desire, and as will lie satisfactory He wished for
snmethius which would afford them their view security
Every feeling of his heart urged him
teens for the gentlemen against whom been arrayed IN
opinion But although he was sure it meant, he
uockery 10 tell there could be any security 10 them in
e present number IT the Senate While sxtende basi. of
representation IS adopted for the House Delegates there
seems to be part of gentlemen on the MI
sde to make the Senate little of CHECK as possible Even
NOSE VINO wish to meet gentlemen The ground of arrange.
ment lcompromse Of guesion)~those who are the
most Kindly disposed could go with tho gentlemen on the
ef se, unless some satisfactory security were given He
believed he should con,ented with some modification of The
senate lie had arned in his mind which was
to see realized lie should happy could he 20 home and
cnnscientousy advise his constituents Consu
uo But II the House OF Delegates be based white
popmaton while the number OF the Senate is still limited 24
he could not go his constituents that there was
sufficient security against the abuse power And If the
gentlemen on the other side persist in that proposition they
drive their best friends frnm them lie wished Senate TO
cnnst OF i3he would be So but he could moi
Gsree TO less number
Mr. DoopsmaE said he had dsi the gentleman would he
glad to home after obtaining Constitution as he wish
en- ana to recommend II to his CONSTITUENTS but his object
was 10 send out Constitution which people would not
the course he had taken would lead to that event The
already represented IN the Senate the white basis
Under the existing that after there
wouk he new apporonmen according the population
We stand right that branch We have hitherto been I'M
equally the ouse Of Delegates We agree
that the evil should he eeed in the House Of Delegates but
al me same tuo we take away from the people what given
10 them in the Senate in 1850 the Senate,
70 the oaSls Hd Inc Originating power as 10 bills The evils
then will ouy have changed sides because you take away
which given Senate, and condition would
be thar it before
MIR BALDWIN said the structures Of the gentleman from Che
teiheld would be place, engaged a
OF compromise There excitement abroad full
of danger and becnnes by spirit compromise 10 allay
IT. Those in favor white population branches
and those who are favor of the compound basis
the amendment without committing themselves by their votes
He desired lift order lay the resolution and amend
ent on the table with the other resolution
as TO the basis the House of Delegates can then lie
both taken together and he hoped that should then
to the discussion of them spirit Of full fair and manly
PROMISE and not with disposition igge about Let
those who demand security have fully and fairly 10
them by increasing the ote Senate Uuess one
better acquainted with parliamentary proceedings should
gest better course he would lay the Tesnuos
amendment on the table
Mr. MERCER suggested that the hest mode might be
amend the resolution Of the gentleman from Goochand, Ivy
adding to the resolution respecting the basis the House
Delegates
Mr. ALpwN expressed his hope tina, the proposition would
be laid on the table.
Mr. RAyLoR was opposed going on ID the dark The
gentleman from Northampton {ar Upshu had asked of
take compromise which he disposed offer Let first
know what is the gentleman has offerlet have
knowledge Of What receive for the price which he
has stipulated
MIR BALpwr then moved that the Committee RISE and the
question being decided in the Affirmative the Committee
and reported progress
Tho Convention then adjourned NEE, II
O'Clock.