Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1828-12-18

MOI Out Uey would do ample justice. tie hoped II
would be referred TO the Committee on Pensions.
MIR. Noble said, he glad to that mem
oers were not slumberiug i'll their tents.-For the
purpose Of arriving at just conclusions, (and il
no small item III economy let the petition, said
MIR. n. be referred to the Military Committee
He observed that there were precederts before the
Senate. The MODE which had been hitherto pur-
sued IN regard 20 pensions. a complete bank
ing system He wishedto 20 on the ground Of G.
economy, and take care, said Mr.. N. take care of
the f,ro n''llions Of doiGrs!! Take cafe Of that
FOR the purpose OF showing my own ignorance,
lei these learned men tell what belongs to equal
rights, and will go with them. Let them teach
me my duty and will do it. Sir, said Mr. NJ,
never wished TO be on the committee. He was in
favor OF cool, calm, distinct reference. Sir this
policy may be traced 10 the administration of old
Jenny Monroe. He was opposed to it lie
hoped 10 coun;eract the opinions of the committee
Tor lie had letters upon the subject. Let the Pc
ii'ion said Mr.. N, be sent to the Military Com
mitee
Mr.. johnson, Of Kentucky. said he had no OBJ
lection TO sending the petition 10 the Military Com
intiee, II majority OF the Senate were OF opin-
ion that it should be referred TO that Co,nmitee
when they had Committee OH Pensions. He
i,au been requested, he said, by worthy and dis
tnGushed officer of the late army, to presen ut his
Peiioh praying for an increase ofpon ion for God
Spiit In the defence OF his couuUy--al he asked
'or was enough 10 ensure a competent support Ia
prosecuting the petition, he did appear as an adj
vocaie Tor the increase Of pensions generally He
4 Dt, 4
ana solder; and sorry he that on presenting
petition OF that description there should be any
discussion drawn forth upon the subject OF Col
Monroe $ adininist: alton.
MIR. J. did not know whose head the ven
ge."e OF the gentleman WAS to fall. He was ut
terry at loss how 10 apply the observations Of the
gentleman from Indiana. There was something
intended which he could not comprehend The
discusSt on had indeed taken a wide range. What
could the gentleman mean by his inuenaos, hi-
He had hoe f,
ling to interrupt any member, especially when OBJ
serVations were confined strictly 10 the subject OF
debate; and he begged leave to ask who had drop.
ped any remark which could Justify the observa-
tons of the gentleman, What was the cause of
the strange, the unprecedented course of his OBJ
servaions! Is IL, said he, because have pre-
scented 10 the Senate the petition OF a soldier! Is
there any one Of this body who has called down
the discussion OF the gentleman Mr.. Monroe.
are we to be censured, Sir, because the Chairman
OF the Committee Pensions has been unfayora-
BILE to the prayer OF the petitioner? l confess, sir
my reluctance to trespass on the patience and the
Tune oil this body, that cannot see how the ques-
ton can be involVcd respecting the course hereto
tore pursued in relation to the subject of pensions
confess, indeed, have not capacity 10 compre-
hend the gentleman. confess my want of capa-
CITY 10 see the propriety of the discussion. have
The right, and will always exercise it, TO present
the petition Of humble petitioner. The Chair
man talks about the Committee. Who has cen
stirred that Committee, Who has treated the Com
,n with indignty, The gentleman has used
language, intima.ng that the Committee has been
moderated Why such illusions, If political mat.
ter has offended the gentleman, let it be-if per-
sonai matter has offended him, let it be. But WHY
taiS about undertaking the Committee, do not
thnS the gentleman has treated the Senate with
po'Iteness, with kindness. Such remarks arc
"oun1ing 10 tie feelings of honorable men ri
the gentleman DO MT agree with me because
DO not agree with him, be it Something has
been done by some body, but nobody knows who
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ieelnSs Oh such ciscussion5-i ask pardon for the
desuitory observations have madc-I have pre
scented an humble petition. l do not say that the
petition is correct, or that he is incorrect in hs
petition; thii matter can be best determined wheo
the Committee shall have made their report-,ny
own opinion Is, that the petition ought TO 60 to the
Committee on Pensions; hat am wiling il should
go 70 the Military Committee.
Mr.. Noble replied that he had not said one word
TO rouse the feelings of the honorable p,emb. p
IRON Kentucky, nor any thing to impeach the cor |
reciness OF his conduct i'll presenting the petition
lie had not Said whether the petitioner was, or |
was not TREND OF that gen:leman-all he had |
said was, that it useless to send a pe,,ion IN
committee who had again aud again rejected it. |
lie mad cast no censure on the Senate nor any
upon the administration OF Mr.. Monroe Did |
say, >said Mr. N ) that Mr. Mouroe was base
man! Die ell in question his administrator,
but edid say, II he was driven TO it, that the adj
ministraton OF MIR. Monroe was the most prodiga,
that ever existed. Examine the Journals said Al
1919 ""u you VIII uuu mat when the bill first
passed, petitions were INSTEAD of being sent 20 the
Pension Committee ,uniiorniiy referred 10 the Or,
Hltee on Military affairs :! % was ,zroDe p. !
was "i".HE t. make any apology, Tor he assured
tue gentleman from Kentucky he had M nm
rienGIy feelings tor him: but why did the gentle
man enter into defence Of others whom No aco,,
sauon was made-he meant not TO censure. hi |
houon was predica,ei upon the grounds of eco,
omy. Sir, said Mr.. Noble, This system of So, !
soils was established in time Of general feeiinr
LOT me purpose OF building up and pulling down.
~ vas ho' question between democrat and feder-
aiis-but even boysin the porter cellars had been
put upon The pension list. for the purpose Of ma
KING cross-re. Sir, said he, these people NAV
have been right, but wish stop put 10 ii,e orac
t!ce. Mr. N declared it as his sincere beliefihat
ms system OF pensionng the universe, rev ONT
oil Alr. MonIoes wish 90 palm off hi, account, ,,
on the government. Mr.. NJ. calculated On ~.
ignorance Of the people, but could not sipn hill,
Tor his own benefit, while he was in offire and
aareo MOI present his claim during the adfnipistra
ton OF that profound statesman, MIR Nj sdison
iieLe ,he PRESIDENT called MIR. Noble to order
Mr. n then observed, that lie had said ,,baI ne
wished TO say, and the Senate Inigtt take ,yh,,
course II pleased Of the motion
Inc quesuoh was Then taken, and the De.itiou
was referred TO the Committee on Pensions,
FRIDAY, DEcEMBERI2 1923
Ahe senate did not sit to-day
HOUSE OF ADMINISTRATORS
~. htcheii OF Tennessee. from the Committee
on Military Pensions. reported bill for the relic
9i suhdfy Revolutionary and other officers and col
uleIS' shu ior other purposes; Hhici vas twice
MIR. Mccoy, from tlIe Committee Of rl.;,,s
made adverse reports the Cases of Samuel iii
gate aud Baldwin NJ. Leland ii0''
mr.. sacks, from the Committee on tbe prl,ro
Lands, reported bill 70 preserve from joinrv a,,
"a's Tse senoo lands ia the Territory Of Arkan