Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1828-12-23

cessary that there should be division. in order
mat he might vote according to the view which.
ne nad taken or tae snbject but upon the question
o. the amendment offered by the gentleman {, ON
knsde Island, in connection with the resoiution
offered by the gentleman from Tennessee he could
say tnat ne should now certainly vote against IT,
he gentleman will oaer his proposition in distinct
form, said Mr.. c., may probably vote for Il.
MIR. Kane said he would make an apoloyy ,r,
lne senate, for calling their attention to few OBJ
serSahons which he begged leave to submit Il
.he oolect OF the gentleman from Rhote Island,
was simply reduction Of the present price OF
printing, he had no objection to his proposition:
nut ne considered that his proposition went fur
ther. He believed with the gentleman. that tho
PfinuHg han heretofore cost too much and no doubt
OUT the printing might be done OH much more rea
sonaote terms. IL appeared TO him that the pro
pos'uoh might be best considered by the Senate: Al
the time when the election of printer should taxi,
,;.m tne ume when the necessary informa-
uon mad been obtained-at the time when the hide
mao oeen made, and proposals received. Mr.. X
SAID. that bids might be made at the time az o.
ieenon, out will they have any effect upon tho
,ii''HS Oh manners! Asto the remarks which had
oeeh mace In regard to The practice of the De.
partmenfs, he would say that he conceivad ,h.r.
was no analogy between the cases IL wasnot IN
me power OF the Senate to say what was the va.
Se q printing; YET the value might be ascertain-
ed, and the Senate should not give ore than M.
printing was worth. 1t appeared To him. th,, the
course which had been pursued, latterlv, wa. the
only one which could ensure despatch Of busi-
ness ne SAID he would state case, respecting
the printing, which he conceived, f,rosi,cas ,,.r
good argument He had examiner t,vo 10 80. :;
documents, and found that the game matter ,r,.,
no" comprised upon single page at three dol
isrs ana hity cents, which formally cost Congres,
tns,v ID so ,h spread upon larger space lie
anew ,ha' 'he senate had been in the habit of nav
lug al ieast eleven dollars. The printing Of Con.
gress' at the present session, said Mr. x wa.
zone as cheaply as could be expected, He thouphf'
u senate should be actuated by principles Il e.
liz tnfa 80
Ihehts and no one should expect TO be emplovea
merely from spirit Of competition: and non
should De employed to do the public printing for
less Than II was worth. ~
IN MT Snisht rose aud said, he woull not trou
o,e the Senate if the gentleman from Kentucky
hir. Johnson, had not used the word confernni;t
Die as he thought, in allusion to him, Mr.. X.
ne president said, that the language of ths
gentleman from Ken;ucky was misspprehend.d-
=, MT. johnson. Of Kentucky, said, that bur fo.'
me respect which be had for the gentleman, from
Rhode Island, he would call this systcn, da,n
neT0'odfng, OF employing men 10 do public hue.
heys upon the lowest terms he Womb cau .,nh =
system, CoNTEMP TIBLE. He hoped he wa,
not wanting in respect for any gentleman and h.,
was certain not in respect for the gentleman from,
hioae Island, ami he hoped he would alwav.i
nave sufficient respect for himself not 10 nee IN
si'tng or disrespcc;fu language towards any gen.
ueman. -J 6sn'.
Mr., Johnston. Of Louisiana. said ne u,.,,
Union
mat al SUCH appointments as the one ybch 49,
now he SUBJECT OF discussion, should hs rr,ads he,
majority. He was disposed TO entertain ths %
opinion now, which he did formerly. He.was opnos-
Ell 10 the amendment, because he conceived !, t.,
objectionable. Previous 70 1919 the pract;rs IA
oeeh TO put ont the printing To the los. 4 ;dde,
as is contemplated by the appointment of III. 80.
eihan from Rhode Island, and the effect of Il wa,
10 produce the most Indifferent materials " IN, th
worst kind Of printing. Indeed, he had bssn a..
formed That a bill Of highly important nature 10,
been put OIL for a whole year in conseoner =. -
'ne neglect OF printer, who performed the worn
uhdef contract. Such, said he, is the effect nj
competition, az 10 attract here a number ~ nn,,
all anxious TO get hold of the public u,onev ,Dh,
ignorant o. calculations, and not aware of The e,'
Penses 70 De encountered, are willing TO take the
VIZ al p'i.es rofhous 10 themselves and disag.
vah'ageous TO the government. The exbcnsss of
the CONGRESSIONAL printer are necessarilv verv
great; a large amount Of capital il exbpnaea ~.
INN Tor materials and machinery, and the vast
~ h o' persons employed by him, subjects him
70 heavy and continued expenses'" Hnx tbsnf
was to be expected that a berson couLi h.. 80
pared Immediately on the acceptance Of bis hid
with the mater ials and workmen 10 execnte tI,s
pruning 10 a proper manner, with the reduced pr
ces produced by competition, He well, reroIlertea
that, under the contract sys'en the prin,;no Co.,
executed IN the most soyenIy manner and H..
me d'f1cultes experienced by il forced an inyes
iea.ion o. we subject Three modes of obviat,ns
nose oi'ncuihes were proposed 10 continue ~.
contract system, with some nodific ,tions eor s,
rouse 10 execute lis own printing by persons a.,
poyed oy thein, and, lastly by eyectinp The Mt,
Ter, anu hxing the prices Of the work The f;r,,
IA wing been found Objectionable. wac ,b,r
doned;the second the Senate was NOT d;snnsad s
uof'' because II was deemed but an ernar;rro,,
,ne effects OF which would be extreneIv do,btf,,'
'he last proposition, that Of electipp a nrintsr
graduating his prices adopted bv Tho ,.,,1,.'
,ion ot 1919, and experience had fulJv dc5,,nrs,
'en, mat was The most preierable method ~ 49,.
ung out the printing of Congress Asto The mo-
heF OF electing the printer, he was dec;Jodt r
op, . l''at " should be by majority He wa
- - PeP're' 10 say whether the prices were Tor,
lhgh or 700 low-he was perfectly willing Ia Co.
mt that subject 10 Committee 10 cuom;rs -, I'm
port upon-and indeed the Suggestion of thef 80,
pemdn from Illinois had satisfied him ma, 49,
qui,y was necessary If, said he, the I,nnnsa.
W tne 'esoiuuon IS 30 vague as h enable ono 80;
,e' 70 put construction Upon IL by which I = Joi
Ia's was charged tor piece Of work which 40,
',1 yes OUT three dollars for, IL is time ,p,.t 4,
~ ~ ' oe amended. The subject bad been before
we htIe9ctment Committee Of the otl5r uo{,s1
.. we ias' session. and it was found by tl6rn ~
oy construction put upon the language of The GO :
Sc'uuon, more had been charged for s5me rs a.,
/ "ofk than was necessary, hut they had nronose1
no remedy The difficulty however win 'h;,'
| MT D. said, was not az to the prices given ~, -
1 WI WIN MN consisted IN the vast number of,,so
~ uo' u'''en,s Which were annually printed Tho
! tetrencfunent Committee had recotnu,c,d -, -.
Standing Coiptnitee should he coosnj,,,o,, ~
each House, who should decide on A. 80 ~.
! OF printing necessary 10 be dom. IN, r"s,,J
/ sud n'r ,. VIII be the tue erono,ny 49,
sdid ne sixteen or eighteen vofu1n.. ~ -, ~, y,
Documents printed IN the course Of a vs.- a.
most o. thein entirely useless Mr. i did 80 We.
we u',,I'y OF ne last part Of The rSsouton ,je,
wtht 20 r'peai part Of the resolution ~ tsto -.
re1 s~.f II