Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1828-09-24
From he Mew- York Daily .fdrertisa,

September ls,, in which coed deal Of wormlh
Of temper, & some harshness Of language, were
mantle by Mr.. Otway Cave towards Mr.. Se>
cre,ary Peel, we could not Odd comparing the
conduct Of the Speaker on that occasion, with
the course pursued In the Senate Of The United
States, by Mr. iee-president Calhoun. few
sessions ago, and by the Speaker OF the House
OF Representatives during the last winters ses-
sion. Mr.. Cave had moved for the reference Of
petition, on which Mr.. Peel made some re-
marks, which Mr.. Cave understood as imputing
TO him some person.l motives in the measure,
and in replying to Mr.. Peel, he made use Of
the following langusge:-
As To the personal motives which had been
/uniustly and falsely imputed TO him-(hear)-
in bringing forward these petitions, he not only
discIaimed the imputaiion, but must take leave
10 observe that his proceeding had had just as
much do with the Borough OF Leicester as
the Right Hon. Gen,leman's conduct in regard
10 East Retford had had 10 do with that Bo-
rough
Mr.. Peel, in answer to Mr.. Cave, said--"The
Hon. Gentleman Opposite, has, 10 night, howe-
yer, made use Of one or two expressions which
are so much beyond what the occasion repair
ed, or the ordinary forms of Parliament usage
will justify, that he must excuse me IL call
upon him for some explanation Of them. |
think understood him II use the word falsely,
as il had made some false chargeaganst him
(Hear, hear This expression falsely, he will
allow me 10 hope ,har il was not his intention
10 apply personally to myself, or that if it was
so applied, lie win row retract it,"
To this Mr.. Cave rejoin.d IS foliows-"Mr.
O,way Caye--Sir, really understood he Right
Hon. Gent. 10 say, thar this proceeding on my
part originated in some personal motives, by
which he supposed me TO 5e actuated, relative
IN he NJ 7 I h., al
Gy, in the mos, distinct and unqualified manner,
stated that this is not only true. but that il
is not borne out even by the probabilities of the
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Gentleman speaks, and who have entrusted me
with their petitions, includes the whole popula-
iion OF the borough of Leicester, without dis
tincIion oil party; and the very petition hold
in my hand, is signed by freeholders, who voted
against me al The last election, and who, for
augl.t | know, will do so At the next. can
only say, therefore, in answer TO the Right
Hon. Geutleman's appeal, that If this imputa-
lion against me was meant 10 convey a charge
OF such personal feelings, / must again de-
signate il false impu;ation, and | cannot
retract 1t, b Cause in the frat place il wss most
unfair and unjust, and in the second place, be,
cause il ,oas false"
Upon this, the Speaker Immediately called
MI. Cave 20 order, & said, --"The Speaker-Or-
RIDER! order! II ever there was an occasion
upon which the individual filling the Chair of
this House was called OIL TO interfere between
TWO of The Members of the House, it Certainly
is the present. (Hear, hear) can mos, So
lemnly assure the House, as well as the Hon
Gentleman himself, that IL had though, The
Honorable Gentleman meant or intended the
expression which he ha, used, 10 amply to aoy
i'idual IN this House, certainly should have
in'erposed al the time. But did not in the
remoiest manner conceive that this could be
the Case; and must cOnscientiously declare that
i was never more aStonished than now am az
the Interpretation which the Hon. Gentleman
has JUS, given mistakingly given am sure
OF has own words Hear, hear.
MIR. Caves answer TO the Speaker no, bring
satisfactory, principally because he insisted
upon previous az acknowledgement from Mr..
Peel, tina, the latter did not mean by what he
had said 10 reflect upon Mr.. Cave in the manner
he had understood him, peremptory retrac- !
tlon oil the language he had used towards Mr. |
Peel as altogether supplementary was de- |
manded of him. In the course of this proceed. |
ing, MIR Cave, on one occasion, moved tow ards |
the door, for the purpose Of leaving the room,
but was promptly called back by the Speaker |
After much more had been said, and Nh Cave
endeavoufed, IN every way he could devise, 10
avoid positive retractlon, he was finally oblie-
ed to come to'it, by saying that he was sorry
ior any words he had dropped offensive to the
House, and that he made the apology in the
sense the Speaker had required il 10 be made.
Now we beg leave 20 inquire, what would
probably have been the conduct of The two IRE.
sidirg officers in our Congress, il taey had
been placed in a similar situation with that 10
which the Speaker Of the House OF Commons
found himself, on the occasion aIludd to-? Tn.
manner in which Mr. Randolph insuled indisi>
doals in the Senate, and that in which numb
OF members IN the House, were treated by
M-ssrs- Calhoun and Stevenson NAV answer
the question. In both Houses of Congress. the
grossest charges against individual me nbe,s
were made with impurity; and in language tbs,
would be hardly tolerated ct a horse race, or
bull hight. One claimed ina, he had no power
to preserve order and decosum, and therefore |,
permitted the greatest disorurr and indecvrum: +,