Daily Richmond Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1828-1831, 1828-11-28

UcSlrcd him
explain what Mr.. Shelby wished. The Colonel an
swered that he was charged by Gen. Shelby to say to
me, all he wanted TO protect the memory OF his
deceased father from the mputatiors which had been
cast upon IL and that he wascharged to protest in Gen.
Shelby name against having any thing do with the
publications of Thos. Shelby g. Todd To which re-
Piled If Mr. Shelbys real object to defend the memo
ry OF Installer from the imputations g. ISLANDERS OF Thos
Shelby d Todd, and had SO written to me, should
cheerfully have aided him. That man while hv-
ing (pointing to the portrait of Governor Shehy)
could not have been base enough utter the things
charged by his relations, which the secret journal,
under his own proper signature, will prove and which
by applying to Major Lewis he was welcome for his
satisfaction TO see. Col. Combs said he would like
to see 1t, and consent was given that Major Lewis
should submit to him inspection of it. hut no pro,n-
Use was given for him to have COPY as he alleges
Subsequently, he did il, and admitted the signature
to be IN Gov Shclhy's OWL hand writing. I told
him he ut liberty see, only the secret Jour
nal. but also the statements of those gentlemen who
were present at the Treaty But as IL appeared Mr.
Shelby his friends. had been secretly writing 10
Maj II. Smith for information on this subject, without
communication or notice To nc; and that as Sbc-
by and Todd had published to the world the dcclara
tons N their deceased father which the secret Jour
nal over bis signature showed DC positively untrue
that they must now get ont of The difficulty IN which
they had voluntarily placed themselves, the best way
they could and without assistance from me-that the
journal, and every thing in relation TO the Treaty.
having been forwarded by the Commissioners (Goy
Shelby and myself 10 the Government at Washing
ION CITY General Shelby certainly had it in his pow
or, provided had been wanted, or deemed material
to have obtained it-tnt if the government choose TO
take the responsibility of publishing it had no objec-
ton tn ITS beng done. II only to satisfy Col.
Combs OF the incorrectncss " what McsSrs. Shelby
and Todd had published and 10 prove TO him. that the
secret journal had been signed in the proprr hand
writing OF Gov Shelby that consent was given TO see
IT. tie must have understood, for at the time of
reading 1t, nc was given directly TO understand the
reason why had not permitted 1T to be published.
But notwithstanding all this he proceeded home and
lost no time IN publishing garbled extracts from JUS
tying himself for doing So and for this practised
BREACH OF confidence by better reason than hut he
has been unable to perceive any substantial or sui
cicnt reason for preserving It's confidence
Col. Combs then inquired of me, if would write 10
Mr.. James Jackson, Mr.. Curtin and Col. Butler who
he said Gen. Shelby had learned were at the treaty
asked If those gentlemen had been applied to by
Mr. 5 and If not, why seek my CONSENT He answer
cd they had not been applied TO; and that ne presU-
med they would not speak without r,y permission
This nsnuation appeared very npertincnt that at
any other place, and under other circumstances
might have admonlshcd the Colonel of the innpropric
ty OF being the bearer OF such insulting and ungentc-
manly expressions. replied, this nsinuatOn, pro-
ceedlng from Gen: Shelby, was highly ndccorous and
that thought no man possessing the proper feelings
Of gentleman, could express himself. | renar-
ked that over these gentlemen had no conrol that
neither Mr.. James Jackson nor Mr.. Crrrin were at
the treay-that should not write 70 either but he
was at perfect liberty 10 apply TO them and that they
had nv full permission 10 detail all and cyery thn1
hey, either OF them, knew on the subject OF the
treaty or any other matter respecting for that
had no secret kcepcrs-that had received 81 letter
nat morning from Col. Butler iniorminp me he lad
ust seen the publication OF Thomas Shelby and Todd
and was preparing a statement in reply which would
ne forwarded TO the o. s. Telegraph for publication
nat James Jackson and myself had not spoken for
some years and from this marked hostility, had no
doubt he would relate any and every thing he knew
which BY any possibility might operate prciudciav
o me; and he authorized TO say to Mr.. Jackson
then IN Ndshvilc) that he was absolved from any
hing of secrecy ana confidence i'll respect to mere
beating that had no secret keepers; but that would
not be compelled INTO CORES ondcnce with him ar
any body else. The Colonel enGuired, if he should
&c az liberty to communicate this 10 Dir. Jackson,
told him he was perfectly at liberty, and | wished !
i'm TO do So His reply was, this viii answer the |
ame purpose as though you had written.
Col. COMBS then proceeded TO remark that he was
politically opposed TO me; but in his canvass and in
Ill his public speeches before the people, had stu
iiousy avoided Introducing my name improperly or
into them; and that If should be elect
ID nc would. with great pleasure, support my admin
str5tion. ! replied, Colonel, have rskcd rnuch tnat
very mon might POSSESS freedom Of spe, CHI of
iought, md opinion; ind whers they conducted
hemselvc IN tine of those rights as rerflc-
lleH always should do 1t never had been and never
would be of the least heart burning: but when
1dnueT was FCSoIJcu 10, tne country raHS1CKcd Tor |
eCrct tales and these promulgated TO inrre the feel
ngs and character Of any one, those capable of such
conduct ought 10 De condemned BY all high minded
Ionest, and honorable With the close of this |
ientnnent wc walked into the passag,, when ] OBJ
served, ! was yell advised. hoy all this matter was
managed: that mad not such man "a Henry CLAW
Xstcd Thomas Shelby and Todd would never have
'ut forth such falsehoods. In making this remark
lad reference TO particular information contained in
oniidemoi letter received from Kentucky,-Col.
Jonbs quotes my remark IN this way, "that If there
'ad never been such man 81 Henry Clay these
matters wond have slept in the grave with Governor
shelby Tho latter member Of this sentence ethese
matters would have slept II The grave with Governor
shelby Is untrue. uscl no such expression and |
cave with Col. {. to explain whether his statement
gas made from want Of memory, or thro design the
'etter TO till up his diplomatic report. at the time sl
uced TO. Governor Shciby's name was not used by
ne a. to the correctness Of his recollection about
he secret journal refer you 10 the instrument itself
Vhch can be se"n By applying 20 Major Lewis. II |
sill bc there pcrccyed that either il OF tho statement
made by MeSsrs. Shelby ond Tod5. is false Every
hing donei IN reference TO the Treaty vas laid minute