The Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1822-1829, 1827-02-09


hs Ufsne 4 Deacon nnfs, si.h.tf iesfssttc
po"c itsiiie church, aud arf4m5 tint IL e'"'
satuti"n efaii,Hued sur.I oihy a. cAeftse P""e'
IN thei espetfisc churches.
M. iatos al u .. icpiisd'O Mr. Blllufs lie
said thai ttetr Vas rStd ate 81 III. biinis con-
sid,rng hiAnse,fa Munster Ia seeking h bt e.
emptud frpm militia dnlt and Of his actually
being such. a. ho splcnmizrd the iiiCs oi main
mouy, besides preaching. &c.
Mr. dtols5n spoka IN support Of the I Por''
aud coutended that the lpaal ministry Hsfc par
l'ruiarly nicEdcd by tho Constitution, ~ hene-
rant ministers Rrrc Incapable as non-tesIIehts,
Of being returned 10 seufs On tie ngof. lie
compinnanled The ingenuity which Dir. BIllups
had display al. aud sad tlat II he were permitted
70 hold his saat, anl other preachers POSSESSED
the ,uiae talents aud hulnon1 that lheir numbers
oi tbs lDnr would become formidable. lie 81.
pntidlcd Il iaige GA ihc wisdom ui the Constilu-
tiou, and TIT necessity ofeniorciug II. The min
lstcns aftle Gospel were justlg the most popular
men Ia tie country, aud # tins case became d
pr,crdcni. ihcir popularity would return them
Ia great numbers 10 the Legislature. lie moved
10 amend the report by inserting mat Humphrey
Billups vas a minister of thc Gospel In tie splIt
of the CONSTITUTION, aud as suCl not entitled to
retain Ills seat.
=. Eillups replied to Mr. Ghols,n.
Mr. DAVIS 81 Hanover, said Il had been his
misfortune u entertain on Inc subject, winch he
con,ldeicd Il very dclicIle aud unportaut one.
an opinion shich gentlemen cin,licied Is most
tNttao.drnaI It was thai tbr people we're o.
HgIndlit tle judges who were eligible on not to
represent hem. lastly Is hhat opinion had
been formed, he confessed tie arguments aud
reasoning al Gcnticmen had not cradlcaied il
from his mind. IL believed the cnafe Ligi,la-
H. q. L-i 90 #4-4H b. d.
those Ineligible t. q seat here might be removed,
but contelded tuat unless The mode pfe,c.ibcd
by the lae was obscne ed, II was not proper that
rnquly should be In,ttutcd.-ll saId that ihc
Constitution had .INcn each branch Of The lie
gisiitmt certain powers, but he did not find la
the enumeration of those conc, ded To TIN,
House, the power ol Judging ot the q|ualiica.
tons vi thr elected Inc Constitution Of Ill, [.
nitcd N%tatcs, unlike thai OF Virginia, GIVES 10
each lious" OF Congress expressly tine power
nov claimed for ihs. liut. said Mir. DasIS. sun
pose the Constitution Of The United States was
>licnt upon TIN subject, aud a member from
Massachusetts had risen IN ts place and SUI.
gcstcd, Tor IsstdnCc, tlat orr senator. Mr.. Han.
dolph, who has been frequently TO England, VAS
not ~ Tact an lntIdDIthut OF Virginia, and there
fore Ineligible would 1t not be answered. thu,
electors the Legislaiui Of Virginia, are the iadg-
e. Inns, SAID Vi, ID. would be considered e.
ven worse tian trying 10 kH our Senator. A.
gam, sir, suppose II minister ii the Gospcl olcct-
cd to he Execulilc branch ol,tnc Government 10
winch ne Is equally ineligible a, to tins House.
would the pIlvy Counrl nave the power 10 cx.
pcll for want of Equalization 81 would we, the
r%lcctoro, be considered the Judges Of thai mat.
teri
Gentlemen have sad, that unless we eNcrrisc
this powers majority 81 lAr House may be eIec.
ted, who are me,igrhic. lnis | think proves the
at the people nppn Tire subject, for # there
"rrca majority Of BlIiups's here, nov would YOU
exclude them The majority exclude them
%aclvcsi
But sir, the House having determined to act.
aud the question beng upon Mr.. Billup rlpibi.
lily, he believed nov a. h bad expressed lnm.
sell heretofore, that hcwas a miHi1ty IN the mca-
ning olthe Constitution, call him wnat you VIII
deacon or preacher he mnst therefore vote A.
galnst the amendment. notW outstanding hs OHIO
sltIoa 10 tn original enquiry.
Nr. BlllupS' amendment was rrjccfrd-Nr.
Gholson's adopted and thus amended. the rc.o-
luton nas ddoptrdby aye, aud noes. unanimous.
", with the exception Of MI. Pattcson aud .,lr.
lavcnner.
On motionof Mr.. Dlggs, writ ofclection was
ordered to ISSUE To supply the vacancy
Mr.. Giles called up ms aoiut,Uns-Bhi ch ha-
wing becu read,
Gen. Taylor, before the question was put. wish.
ed 10 know "A little more than he knew at prescnt.
lie had bestowed great consideration upon
thcm-but he did not See his way very clear.-
lie might be timid, but he fell alarmed. lie was
unwilling TO go further. He was unwilling
TO take a step which when taken we must
either advance with rum, or recede with
disgrace. he resolutions were IN the lnsinut.
ting garb Of cnqur., and Il philosophical in.eSti-
CATION wns promised, He thought the scene
and the time not adapted TO this enquiry. The
closct"as the place for calm dispas,ionate en-.
quirv. lie did not think a Committee room
or a Legislative Hall, at amy time the most fit
for tins enquiry, but peculiarly unfit when SO
many elements of discord were at work. and. as
II were impending oyerus. Viii all his resncc,
for the gentleman from Amelia, with all his con
lidcncc III his mastery over his oWn spilit, he felt
great cause for terror and alarm. The enqui-
ry was either nugatoIy or lniscnievous. Some
Of the points involved Tor inquiry. were ndlspu-
ted, Che read the FIRST krsolutiou) lie put It to
the candor OF the gentleman if this point necdc,l
enquiry or elucidation. He read the I'd Re,o-
luton. and c%nquircd what the gentleman inteu-
dcd by it-rua 6oao Why was it necessary to
enquire into territorial jurisdiction We wan
ted no metaphysical enquiries. " hat would the
people infer rom these cnquirics2 They would
infer that in the opinion of the Legislature
they were injured 10y The government, aud would
be flied with alarm aud excitement. Ic read
the thnd resolution, and asked il any man be-
lic,cd that the General Government had a right
TO violate right, and TO take property mona one
mar aud give it to another : To enquire into
this proposition was to disturb the public miud
and to lead TO no good. A. to the enquiry into
the taril, the Committee must report that the
Government has the power or has il not. sup
POSE the answer to be in the negative What
would he gained by it, This body had at the
last SESSION instituted this enquiry aud came TO
the same conclusion. He asked if the gentle.
man did not anticipate the answcr-lf he was
not IN the condition ofthoSe OF old, Vino consult
ed the oracle, knowing the anSwc CT beforehand ;
" here then was the need ofthis enquiry He
SAID that this was the first step-this enquiry was
the gliding on the bill. lie read the last resolu-
ton, aud said that that pointed out the real oh
Ject, The enquiry was nominal. lie would
not say tlat the pamphlet was already written,
but It's materials were prepared, and the Com