Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1827-04-24

danger and perllS win nlCbroPe'J
voring to environ them; ana II was W .r.
cessful resistance Of those schemes, anu " 49,
endeavors Ina, England might a''riou.e ~. p I,.l
session of the glorious freedom and u",, sn -
| CONSERVATION which she at this day possessea
rChaorsN Ru, ~hy did he avert 10 those FACTS
which were recorded in the page oil history
No, m ca,, reflection upon the Cathoiics V,
~. ,rescn, day-No God forbid, that ne snoui9
co. an Instant even think Of such design-l ioou
cbserine) but to prove 10 the House mat 'heir
ancestors were not those bigots and lh'o'era'''S
which some per. ons Of the present time ehoea'
youred 10 makelhem appear. Ana IL !" '"e
olden.,imes such laws only had been adopted as
were necessary for the salvation oil the lreeaom
of the country, and for the protection OF inc
Protestant Church; so also was II true mat IL,
modern times every law had been repeated
which an alteration Of circumstances had rem
dered unnecessary for the maintenance Of the
same ends. Every law affecting the exercise :,
| Of religion had been abrogated, ana all I"l'
disuuaiifieations which could interfere Win nal
pncss and independence had been removed
| (Hear, hear, hear. 1.-The question now waS'
| not whether Roman Catholics should be aho"
ed TO pursue their religion, and to be protected
in their different ayoca,ions but II was simply
one of expedience. The Roman Catholics la
bored under noillisqualiication which checked
their prosperity as individual members OF the
community; and the question before the House
was, whether it was wise to admit them TO take
part in the deliberations Of parliament, and
to fill some Of the highest Offices oil state. Ii
could not therefore be considered as question
Of necessity, but il must be regarded, as ne
maintained it was, a question entirely ofeXpedi-
ency. (Her.) And he would no,shesitate TO
say, such was his anxiety TO attempt 10 give
peace 10 Ireland, that iii: could be proved that
further concessions could be granted, without
danear to the State, and the supremacy of the
Protestan, religion, he should be most ready to
make them. He was perfectly aware that the
other side Of the question had been supported
by men, whose genius was an honor 10 the
country which had produced them, but never
,heless he did no, feel depressed from that con-
sideraion, because he was perfectly convinced
himself, and he firmly believed the majority OF
that House would agree with him IN thinking,
that in principle he agreed with those ilustrl-
Gus characters TO whom he alluded. he hrst
name which he should mention and which had
hitherto been quoted as an overwhelming au-
ihority on tho other side, was that OF the great
est men that this or any other country had ever
produced He meant Mr.. Pin (Cheers.) The
House and the country had continually been
tOlU tnat lnat lIluStIlCuS SldlCS'hau was io'o'
bic to granting further concessions 10 The Cath
olics. lie perfectly remembered reading the
speech Of Mr. Pitt upon the Union Of Ireland
to this country. He remembered also, that one
of the arguments used 10 induce the adoption
Of that great measure, was, that II would tend
TO facilitate Catholic Emancipation, that it
would enable England to grant that concession
more easily But what course did MIR. Pitt
tskpS,ry S'hv he v.,~as ri III -.-l- -
and adequate security was given by the Roman
Catholics against foreign influence and against
the united and combined system between Cath
olics-lhat unless such was the case he could
never con sent that they should be admitted 10
further privileges and TO hold the great offices
of state Tha, language was in prnt-it was
the language Of Mr. Pitt, and therefore 1t was
evident that that great man never would nave
granted emancipation TO the Roman Calho!cS
unless they brought forward sufficient security.
THear. hear, hear The same doctrine was en-
forced by lord Gren,ie.-And what was the
security which presented itself 20 hlsLordship's
mind? Why, that the Grown should be able to
apply its Veto in the appointment OF the Ro'
man Catholic Bishops. lie did not mean to
say whether such security would have been
efficient or not, but he noticed il as conending
for the principle of security, and That Mr.. PIT
was no autnOlNy liS Spihioho ""iSh he
entertained There was another name, illustri'
Gus alike in the annals Of eloquence and in the
annals of patriotism, which had been also quot
ed on the other side as great authority, he
meant the came Of Gra,,an. But, what did MIR.
Gra,,an himself say, in his recorded declara-
lions? Why, he said, that he never proposed
to maintain that further concessions should be
granted to the Roman Catholics without their
offering competent security against foreign
influence;-and he added, that unless such Sc
curi,y was rendered, this Country did but JUS
tice to its constitution in refusing them any fur
Their favor. So that Mr.. Gra,tan, like Mr. Pit,
was the advocate Of the necessity of suff
cent security being given by the Roman Cath
olics before they were admitted to further
power. Clear, hear) He went one step
further, he came 10 the name Of Nobleman
who was now no more, but who few years
since had greatly Influenced the proceedings of
that House, and who had devoted his best efforts
to the forwarding the Roman Catholic cause.
He alluded to the late Marquis Of Londonderry,
than whom the Roman Catholics had never pos
sessed more strenuous, sincere, and indefali
gaale friend. (Cheers) But that noble Lord
was the as ne was in the cause, and had
M ypr ihoueht of moIn,ainno thai E,, ,rrina.