Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1827-02-20

VS." PoT's. ~ MS was manifestIy a. state oil thIng
whieh ought to be terminated speedily as possible
Tor the Swedish subjects who had been thus oblig
ed 10 pay these duties, would Garry back to thei
country the impression that this Government had
not honorab!y fulfilled its engagemenis; and sc.
nous diihculiy might in respect the pend
ing negotiation with Sweden. IT. said MIR. Il. ar
act oil Legislation be necessary, which he did no
admit IN the case OF the Treaties between the u
>. anu denmark, aud Guatamal1, and the Com
nlittee OF Commerce should con slider the proposing
OF 1t as incumbent them, they will report a bill
Tor that purpose TO the House.
MT. Forsyth replied tina, he was sorry he could
NOT comply with the suggestion of the gentleman
VINO mao just taken his seat, in not pressing the
amendment. The question was far more impor.
| 'si' IMAM gentlemen seemed 10 think. II was oil
'ne deepest importance 10 the people of the Unit
Ell States, that their Representatives should con-
l'nue to hold all their power, and when proper,
10 exercise 1t; end that they should no, lose or let
II slip tor want OF due care and vigilance The
proposition he had submitted was almost verba
Tim copy OF that which had been agreed TO by the
TWO Houses in 1915. The discussion then held
was Considered as settling The ques;iun and fixing
'he doctrine on this subject.
| Inc gentleman had old them that the practice
was 'he other way. He sorry, indeed, TO
hear 1t. This show ed only the necessity there
WAS ior the House TO act, lest practice should be
sci up against principle. The gentleman how
ever allows, that, when an Appropriation is re
qunsa to uihl treaty, then law is n Necessary To
'na"e 'hst appropriation, and then the puwe. OF
,"'s ii"use comes in play Sir, these are the
hefe'!cai, The exploded dictrines-the doct1iu es
winch have never been advanced bat TO be con-
oe'nned But the doctrine seeded By this House
IN 800 is union i; applies no more to ap-
Precipitation inaa to any oher stipulated by
rea J. i"is Is not rev question. 1, Is as asi-
IA ed IN me days O! WoshI:s' il was again
IoHSht M and fully discussed during III. presi
Madison Fs -; u.
,hen entered into with Great Britain chane ed the
laws imposing duties and taxes and be sent il TO
congress that The necessary legislation might be
had. 1t was matter OF deep concern with Mr..
Madison, that this point should have been matter
OF dispute between the two Houses He was an
prehens:ve lest no OF legislation should finally,
pass and he be thereby prevented from EXECUTING
the treaty.
The gentleman says, that Tie Swedish treaty has
been FULLY carried into effect wiihou, any act of
THIS House; and by saying that no bill wasTerort-
ed oy Tue COMMITTEE bn Foreign Relliions he
may pe understood as n!errins that acquesced
IN such execution o. The treaty. Bat left the
Congress of the Umi,ed States in IsIS-,Io and
d!d not return Ill! 1923. then found that an en-
'he revolution had taken rl,ce in The practice OF
me House on subjects of this kind. .5iirnlaions
wh'ch affected commercial int: rests had ALWAYS
neiofe oeen referred 10 the Committee on Foreign
heiaNons IL waApow the prartics 10 send then,
10 The Committee on Commerce With re.nect.
however, TO these very iea!ies with Denmark and
1datemala, brought The subject before the view ef
my Committee, ba, j, had been referred bv III.
iioase 10 the Comni tee or Commerce. we con-
Guided Ii was to be left TO them. No movement,
however, was made by tina, Committee, and miles.
something is done now, the House viii moi be
able to act upon il at all. Mr.. F. Concluded bv
expressing his hope tina, the House would nro.
coed: and would act Oh The principle which it had
iissii established in 1916. [lIets IIr +. ouoted
the act OF March, 1916
MI Powell said, tina; he ,iiI rot know that The
act OF 1873 had been con!i.h we'd The s,a;eme,,
that IL had been agree; to 5y, all he BRANCHES ~
! the Government, sruc. him az new He I,,.,
| ibis had been vexed question since 1900 As
the power o; The Hou-e in cases oc aburopri.,;o,
he had made up his opinion; but the doctrine ,oyy
advocated, p'isi'ed that power point or tyo be :
You'd this, and &" ent TO eXali the rowe, of hi.
iiouse above The treaty making power and in ef.
ect, To say that all Treaties depend for tbei, nil
mate i"tihca;Ion on this House. Tie C., institution
1 had thrown around The ireaty-msking mower "a
nous guaids a1d checks, the effect of which of
vas to produce difficulties AMI delay. lie ,va.
not, however, disposed, on that account IN dcc,,,
from the safe ground Of the Consultation. W,
| on the other hand, he was sGnaly ndisposed to
transmit that poser any iGi .her i'm had wiseIc
been done by the provisions oflhc Consti,n,ion
Difficulties almost insT'nOuniste mus. arie
should The iu!h!ment o' treaties be made IN 10
pend on this House. Where WIS the uccess;,,,
OF such legislation: The Iou-e had i,rs, b.sn
tod, that neaty containing s,ipuiations for tle
j.. abolition ot di*crmr-' ting duties, had been
carried into full operation without any .ncI
act why, then, Of this late period of tic
session, wien there was an immediate nece..
sly oi acting on The bill, should een.ja,n.u
wish 10 draY forth pre.iactc1 discrss;o a.,
The provisions OF the Constitution ~ ere so haf.
inonous IN their ops. alton, that he had no ,ish &c
Introduce any new principle lie had never hear,
oil any Inconvenience Arising irouI the want OF il,
Was 1t 10 be presumed that the Senate of ths
united States was not worthy TO be ;ru.teds Re.
io'e they Continued any iresty, would thew not
look at IT. effect upon the revenue and ,ipon ali
ihs other !" erests oil The counI1? Surely thew
would. And u Tie treaty confined any injurious
provisions, would not thai body lay it, hands upon
them; U"dO1btrdsy. The power TO do so. te-fs
there, and there alone It's enough for III.
House TO know HAT they hold The power to grant
I o. 10 . iihhoId all appropriations. FMS II ours
\ Oy 'ie Consitu I0n, ahi we must use il at our
I pe!I and at Cur high responsibility
Mr.. Livingston said. that matter ,vas now
brought hdo ques ion, winch he thought, bad been
I Iu!y and loIever se,iled. thirty years ego. The
power Of this liuuse The suti~c of freaiies had
been Questioned, soon after The Gog eminent ws-
Organized; aud u had been sOlenaly determined
a,ier more debate ih.n ne belle, r., any other ygb
+ Jeci had since occ,sioncd, that, ~ Lereyer a
treaty bore NJ siti els wniua the po,gs,
granted by tie Coii. iuti ~ 20 fbis ilanss
u must leg late ~ cf.'erlo Fitc titi tuat, effect
/ We have, said Mr.. l. J no xxi ,Sfve poyyer O.,
/ TIE subject 6 appropriations. We l.ts o.,
'eyenue. bd nut no treaty VIII eve, i,uri
! That The Con-iiu ion says, fhst ,ys shall fegu
late commerce and we do tln- by ac.s In wttcl
| all the three bfanrf 90 o. Government eouetff