Phenix gazette. [volume] (Alexandria [D.C.]) 1825-1833, 1827-10-15


held with General Jackson upon The sooJec' VI
the last Presidential election prior to lis term''
| nation, was in December, 1924. =,
Q. Are you certain that was the periode-l
General Jackson says it was in January. OF an
other year.
A. "It was on the soth of December, 1924.
am enabled to fix the time not only from my
| own recollection, but from letters which "ro:e
on tina, day"
| y. Where did the conversation take place!
| A. eWhist we were walking together upon
the street,
O. Wa. i, not at General Jackson's lodg>
inrs? Recollect yourself, he says it was there.
| A. 1t was nor at his lodgings, but "whilstwe
were walking together upon the street.
O Are YOU rot the friend Of Mr.. Clay, the
accused? al
A. 81 never have been the political friend OF
MIR Clay since he became candidate Tor the
office of President, as you very well know,
O Did you not 60 to Gen. Jackson as tie
friend of MIR. Clay, for the purpose OF Offering
a bargain to Gen. Jackson?
A. 81 called upon Gen. jackson upon the
occasion which have mentioned, solely as his
friend, upon my individual responsibility, and
no, as The agent Of Mr.C. or any other person
o Be so good as TO recollect particularly
upon this subject Gen. Jackson makes dit
reren, statement; he Says "it was by authority
, of Mr.. Clay or his friends" and that "you
could not be acting on your own RESPONSE
bil,ty."
A. ] cannot answer for what Gen Jackson
| says I am called upon tn tell the truth "ln
r December, 1921 heard that Gen. Jackson
had determined; should he be elected, Presi.
dent, to continue Mr.. Adams in the Office OF
To- I ~ Iork
owed it to himself and The cause in which his
political friends were engaged to contradic,
= this report; tina, he must at once perceive now
injurious to his election such a report might
BIZ. finally determined that would ask Gen.
Jackson myself whether he had ever declared
he would appoint MIR. Adams his Secretary OF
Stale" held the conversation with him
\ with :hat view alone.
n O, Did YOU no, commence your proposal
, to Gen. Jackson by saying, that you had been
informed by the fri, nds Of Mr. Clay that the
friends of Mr. Adams had been making over
n lures 10 them!
o a. did not. Prosecutor. Recollect!
ILLNESS never did. "I stated to him that
= there was report in circulation that he had
+ determined to appoint Mr.. Adams Secretary
Of State, in case he was elected President; and
= that ! wished to ascertain from him whether
d he must at once perceive how in furious to his
Y election such report might be; that my only
: motive wa, friendship for him"
Q. Did you not say to HIM, "that the
: friends of Mr. Clay stated that the West did
a not wish to separate from the West" and if
e there was room for Kentucky in the Depart
e ment Of State, by a complete union between
Mr. Clay and his friends, they would .1 nB BHaf AN
~,
t, Jackson on the occasion which ] have men
), toned, solely as his friend, upon my individ-
: ual responsibility, and not as the agent of Mr.,
: Cl.y or any other person"
y Q. Did you not state, ifthe arrangement
e could be made, that Gen Jackson could be
{ made President in one hour?
t a. AS was wanting no arrangement eX<
cept for him to contradict the report could
E have said no such idle thing as making him
: President in one hour, when the election was
not to come on for more than month.
Did not Gen. Jackson say to you, thai before
, he would reach the Presidential chair by corr
rupt means Of bargain with Mr. Clay that
: he would see the earth open and swallow both
. Mr.. Clay and his friends and himself with
them?
A. He said "that he thought we'll of Mr.
: Adams, but that he had never said or in
! tlhho'Su tuat uO WOulu Ut WOuIQ not aDDOlnt
him Secretary Of State That these were Sc.
crets that he would keep 10 himself; that he
would conceal them from the very hairs of his
head. THAI if he believed his right hand
then knew what his left would do upon the sub.
Ject OF appointment to office he would cut it off
aad throw it into the ire"-(but no. word
about corruption, or the earth's opening and
swallowing any thing.)
Q. Did you not, in speaking with General
Jackson upon the subject, say, ",hat you were
OF opinion It was right to fight such in
triguers with their own wepons!"
A. Until | saw Gen Jackson's letter to
Mr.. Beverly, of the sth Of July, and was at the
same time informed by letter from (you) tn.
Editor OF the United States telegraph, that
was the person to whom he alluded, the con-
ceptlon never once entered my mind that he
believed me to have been the agent Of Mr.
Clay or his friends, or that | had intended to
propose to him terms Of any kind from them,
| or that he could hayn