Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1825-03-15
RICHMOND, VIRGINIA. TUESDAY, MARCH * 7sos

hremer and himself made the reply to me, as
stated all can say, is, that il was done as the
story is related of the overseer abusing his EN-
pioyer-ater was out of hearing
think 1t not unlikely that. the conversations
nave related, which were held with various
persons and those mentioned with Mr. Kremer
anu VII. SANFORD, have been seized upon, by the
autnor OF that address, and distorted and con-
Verted INTO the language ascrbed to me. II is
1e'y gear 10 me that did notsay to Mr.. Kre-
ner, mat Gen. jackson was my choice next TO
Wiz. Clay nor that told him that Kentucky
would come out strong for the General; nor that
zen. jackson, If elected, would make Mr.. Adj
ANS secretary of State; nor could have wish
Gu 10 nave known of him what the friends OF
zen. jackson would do for Kentucky; for. real
~, | should suppose, that no man, who is ac.
quaInted with Mr.. Kremer, would ever have
thought OF going to him to make bargain. or
toootain promise or understanding about any
once IN the gift OF President. Such an idea
may be held out at a distance, where Mr. Kre
mer is only known rs member of congress. but
never can gain credit where he is known as
man.
/ remember that il was often said. bv mem
ners, and, perhaps, BY friends of each of the can
dluates, that Mr. Clay, and his friends. SHIELD
the balance IN their hands;n and il NAV have
been said by some. that ''kentuclSy held the ba
lance In her hands"-but TO this opinion I did
not then, nor do | yet, subscribe Instead Of
The common salutatiou of show are Won this
morning." MIR. kremei's ordinary expression
was, TO me, show is Kentucky to.day?n And it
Is prooaoie, that at some time | may have an
swered, "she is not dead yetn but never in re-
latIon to MIR. Clay's exclusion from the House.
But supposng that was 10 admit what it is rep
resented said to Mr.. k upon the INQUIRY sta
ted-wnat could be made of il against IN e, con-
sid erlng and taking into view the time the man
hei, and the person TO whom said, The CONVEX
satlon is alleged to be introduced incidentally by
Wiz. kremer himself; my reply is represented
to be not secret, but open and i'm the presence
OF witness, who had been procured to be pre-
sent, or, n they rather, who had accidently come
up. 10 those who know Mr.. Kremer the idea
OF hoax would much more readily attach itself
~ Suci conversation, than of Intrigue; and
the only part OF the narrative that can recog.
MISE as strictly true, is Mr.. kremer's introducing
a conversation to me-for it is certainly very
true, that he very often mentioned the subject
! of the election TO me, but | never once du
ring the session introduced the subject 10 him
or to MIR. Sandlord, that recollect Of How
Inuch credit is due to the statement, that a
member" told MIR. Kremer, that Mr. Adans's
| friends had made overturcs,n &c. which is made
the prelude &c the conversation SAID To hive
BEN had with me by Mr.. kremer, l sn |.
leave to others TO Judge-for my own part do
not believe IT. do not believe that any mem
Der ever seriously told him any such thing but
II any one had, and he had been DESTROYS of as
certa.ning the truth, and of combining himself 10
IT, 1t seems TO me the most ndicious mode oul,i
lave been to have pursued back the inquiry,
until he found out who made the s'overtlIres ~
AMI 10 whom they were made; but to avoid de-
eat and investigation into the charges propaga-
TED, seems to be one part of the plan of opera
| tions.
Ii is admitted, that there was much free and
familiar conversation among the members on the
subject OF the election. The friends of Mr.
Clay having been deprived of their choice, by
The return of the other three candidates, TO the
House OF Representatives, were the only mem
berS who had to make second choice The
friends OF each of the others were desi, Gus of OBJ
tanning their sufliage5 Tor their fayourite; and.
therefore / presume il was that the friends of
Mir. Clay were more talked to by the other mem
deTS than the friends of either OF the returned
candidates. And amidst all these conversations,
lnnocently conceived, casually held, and care
! lesSly expressed, 1t would have been no matter
OF surprise if the designing and the unprincipled
had by distortion and Misrepresentation drawn
INTO their service many more conversations than
they nave done. If they have made what they
have exhibited out Of my conversations in reply
TO two men, what nay they not be able 10 make
from the careless and open conversations of
! theirs! When these conspirators shall make
THIS arithmetIcal calculation, ii is not unlikely
we shall sec another address with the signature
&c. Kremern
Whatever words | may have used, or what
ever conversations may have had, that have
ever IN any conversation, jOcOse careless, er Sc
riouS, sought to obtain bargain, PROMISE or
an understanding for any office, of any kind, for
Mr.. Clay, is utterly false and unfounded
AS to my vote for Mr.. Adams, will be
permitted 10 say, it was given with sole
view to the interests of my country, accor-
ding to the best dictates of my judgement, with
out personal predictions for the one or I'm.
friendly feelings for the other; and without any
view to Office for Mr.. Clay: nor in giving this
vote, am chargeable with the violations of in
structions. The Legislature of Kentucky has
never assumed the right of instruCting the mem
bers of Congress from that state The lie
gIslature has exercised the right of instructinr
! the senators IN Congress, on the ground of con-
sutuents; the Legislature in that case are the
Electors, aud TO the Electors is the elected res
| POnslble. But as to members of the House of
Representatives no such right ever has, or ever
viii be claimed by the Legislature; for il is a
| right which belongs to the people whose imneA
dlate representatives they are; 10 their consti-
tuents the representatives are alone responsible,
and not to the representatives of the same peo-
pie, exercising Legislative powers in another
department This would be 10 transfer the
/ power and control of the people over their rep
resentativts in Congress to the Legislature of the
state. which the people never did, nor never will
do They will, as they ought to do, hold the con-
trolling and corrective power in their own hands,
and exercise II according TO their own Indictment