Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1825-12-13
vol. XXH...NO. 65.


a them, to digest them and present them in a con-
, densed and luminous form, that the Senate might
act on them with less labour and more confidence
He thO~9ht it wrong to refer two subjects which
often came in collision with each other, to the
same committee. He had the honor, last year
to be on the Committee of Commerce and Manu-
tactures, and had received every mark of polite
ness and attention from the gentlemen composing
that Committee; YET he could declare, thar, all
questions relating TO Commerce, excepting those
concerning Lighthouses, Breskwaters, and one or
two Others he had tie riso, tune 20 be in rninori-
ty. 1t was well known, that the two great ma
t'onal objects OF Commerce and Manufactures, in
ieSisiaung on them, frequently came in collision
with each other, and it must frequently happen.
mat those who advocated the one would be oppos-
ed 10 the other. Commerce, Mr. l.. said, was the
leading interest OF the country: it furnished all the
reVenue; II gave three times the amount necessary
TO meet TIE expenditure oftbe country; and con-
sidering its vast Importance, he should decide upon
passing the resolution.
MIR. Dickerson, of n. J. offered few remarks
IN favor of the motion. He thought it improper
10 blend two subjects distinct from each other
as Coninerce and Manufactures, especially as here
were members sufficient TO fill all necessary Com
mliiees. Mr. Dickerson bore testimony 10 the adj
vantage the Committee on Commerce and Manu-
iactures had derived from the experience and in
formation OF the gentleman from Massachusetts
aud concluded by expressing his strong conviction
that was the interest of the country that the two
subjects should be separated
MIR. Find!ay, of Pennsy vania, thought the sub
ject OF Agriculture of much importance as either
Commerce or Manufactures, and proposed SO to
modify the resolution that it should read, one of
Commerce, and one OF Manufactures and Agri-
culture.
MIR. Dickerson objected TO the proposed amend-
meat, ON the ground that there was TO Committee
OF Agriculture, and it would be inexpedient TO
combine ii with the Committee On Manufactures:
Tor, although the two subjects were in many res
poets connected with each other yet the different
views which would be taken OF them by the gen.
tlemen composing the Committee, ould occasion
ally clash
! Mr. Iiayne, of South Carolina, said it was ca
81 10 perceive that the gentlemen from Me-, Jer-
sey looked to Manufactures as separate and dis
tinct interest Ii had been otherwise, ne would
have accepted the amendment pro- osed by the gem
tlenan from Pennsylvania. Mr.. Hayne said, he
protested against such doctrine. Experience had
proved that much benefit had been derived from
committing 10 one committee the subjects of COM
merce and manufactures, and he would advocate
any motion 20 add the subject OF agriculture will
ing that those three great national interests should
/ be imseparably connected. Mir. fIayne thoue ht
II they were 10 legisaie with view to have sepa-
rate and Individual Interests those Subjects
great misery to the country at large stub, ~.
result II would be inJ ossib.e for them TO ie9isfdte
for.ufactuTeS, II they hed not, at the
time, distinct view OF the elect on the corn,oerce
OF the country. To illustrate the advantage of
combining the two subjects in committee, on
which gentlemen conv Tsant with each would be
app0iated, Mr., IL. adv eTted to he great benefit
which tie Committee OF Commerce and &janulac-
lures had at the last session. in It's deli5era tons on
the tarif BILL derived from the counsels OF he on
o'able gentleman from Massachusetts Mr. LIoyd)
Ellis fact WAS well known--ior The value Of his
knowledge and experience on that Committee was
I fIn CIN'a rDF- ar ,-n, 81.
iiayne, was tie obiec; OF leeisa,ing on manufac-
lures: Was it TO provide articles for The domestic
use OF the country! No it was make them a
subject OF commerce, BY exporting what was man
uiacluied etsrcting the Importation OF the pro-
dice oil other nations, and ii would be impossible
tor them to pass law which would affect the manu-
iactnres of the country, which would not have a
direct operation its commerce He hoped
these great objects would 20 together, and
that tire proposition TO separate them would no.
! prevail
| Mr.. Smith said nothing more common than
TO Introduce innovations in egislaon the subjects
OF manufactures and commerce had been for series
OF years connected in one committee and there
was then complaint. because these tw great Oh
Jecis are so similar, hot, in attempting do much
good to one, there is danger oil iDiurag the other
similar innovation took place in the other House.
Committee of Manufactures instituted, and
/ they went for the promotion OF that particular
Object, without regard to he other and, if the Sc
nate followed The example OF the other House,
/ they must Xpect tie sarne result. Commerce and
Manufactures ought to 90 hand in hand, SO as
not To destroy distress each other; and in the
Committee there should be gentlemen who were IA
yorabie 10 manufactures, and others who were ia
VoTacle TO commerce, to checi. any motion or
/ attempt 20 injire chcr the one or The other
/ MI Rowan observed That Agricultural So.
ciety might be ecessary for The ten miles square,
as tie soil was decidedly capable Of great inn
( proyeinent. lie thought they had be ter leave
! Agriculture as il s--it ,yas lot within the scope
OF the powers OF his bodr. The power TO regu-
late Commerce was expressly given, and The con-
nectlJn between that and Manufactures led TO the
establishment of a Commit, &c OF Commerce and
! Manufacture but lie shojld always vote against
( any proposition tending regulate Agriculture.
/ Mr. Holmes, oil Msiue, sad the duties OF the
Committee on Cou.Nrce and Manufactures were
well understood, because they had been defined by
rrnctice, bat, as regarded the duties Of Commit
| tee on Agriculture, lac could not imagine IS hat they
| could be, and he thought thai they ought 10 be
deli"ed beo,e such committee was established.
Mr.. FinHay said here were several cases in
which such committee could act; it was mpo,si-
bic 10 ell what business nigh erise, and he thought
the dliics OF TINT COMMITTEES ell defined Hose
Of any o Tire StandI & Committees.
The Question was tLen taken on Mr.. Findlay's
anne duenl and lost.
Tie question was ;hen taken on MIR. Diclsersoa' :
motion to create two committees, and carried /;
Yeas 20, Na,sg
Mr. johnson, Of Kep,ucky, submitted tie fol-
Loving resolution:
ResOired, fiat committee be appointed 10
inquiry INTO Ne expodency OF aboishing Iinprison-
ment Tor Debt
Mr. J. moved the immediate consideration ofthis
resolution; but, some opposition being made to this