The Virginian. [volume] (Lynchburg [Va.]) 1822-1829, 1825-07-11

some maEe aise, extensive, aud n1nre eff
raeipns S stem ia heal the wounds uf ifr-
laod Give them better unttuns of the
relations al landlord and tenant, give them
pure administrator of justice, RETURN the
re-, enue laws, improve the sysiemo Of edura-
tinn, and last, though not least, do that
WHICH might lead To all the rest, .ncourase
the return of lae natural proprletors Of the
soil, aud you confer on them greater bene-
Cts than slch measure as this can possi-
bly, hrsiow. Hear Emancipation they
certainly wanted, hnL it was emancipa-
ton from moral not from political debase-
incnt.
The Marquis of Lansio0n snid the
bill should haze his sincere aud detfrmin
ed support. He was persuaded that the
tranquility of cIand could not BIZ secured
wliboat the settlement of this important
question aad lis Justice in bis estimation
WAS rs clear as its policy. In this free
county, where the opinions Vt all were sup
posed 10 he represented, Hds i necessary IL
exclude the one third Of the Whole pnpula-
ton In his opinlOn, our own C0n-tIln-
ton would admit the representation OF all
opinions more strongly than any otter
state III Europe. He would drtain their
IOfdships vhlr he adyerted 10 one more
ground of difference of oplniuo, which had
been dwelt on in urging thls great question:,
1t bad bren said tn 1 the church would he
endangered by the passing of this bill
He lflle Marquis of Lansduwo1 coGteuded
that the safety OF tn It church and Of the
state depended on admitting thei fellow
subjects TO all the privileges Of the state
The real question for Their Lordahips was
tins; would they return 10 the old system
Of governing the Catholic people Of Ireland
10y coercion, or would they gain them over
by Cancellation liear, hear, hear. -
The people of Ireland were raised in their
moral and political station by the conces-
sons already made. Their Lordships
had already began the work of Cancellation,
IL was now time 10 complete it he in Con-
c!usion contendcd, thai the removal of the
remaining civil disabilities from the Ra-
man Catholics was necessary 10 the safety
Of the state.-tChecrs.l
Lord Liverpoot said This bill did mot come
To their Lordshps singly, II c1n1e accompa
nird with other Important measures, which
h" Thought were IN thensel,e YES a ground for
rejecting il. These measures were in order
10 catch a tcN votes To the right and to The
left, and The house was placed in this sitn-
alton, that it did not know what il was 20.
ing 10 decide upon. tie wished To know
whether those measures we're to acconpa-
ny II or act he was ready to discuss the
bill separately, but the House OF Commons
had pat their Lordsaips in this situation,
that they had purchased majority by in
tOdaeinS the other measures. He never
knew body placed ia So di,graceful stu
alton as their LordShips we're placed in by
the proceedings IL the other house of Par
lament He asked, let Us know what we
have II decide upon. lie detested the bill
as it Was then brought up. lie Thought
tnr greater part Of II uaintrIIslble, mere
nnuaeu-r. The least objectionable part of
II was that " Which went simply u rrmave
the Catholic disabilities. He sA Jaid wish
To goto the simple, plain question Of remo-
wing III .se disabilities. A bill merely for
that purpose would not be one tenth pat
so Objectionable as the present. He add
mlttcd that in every free state all The sub
jects of it were entitled to equal rights up
ou equal conditions but the ground upon
which lie made the qualification was this,
that the Roman Catholic did not offer
you the same conditions as the Protestant.
that one gave an entire aud the other a d.
Hded allegiance the one gave il complete,
the other gave qualified allegiance, aud
uuless You could prove that he who work
I'D half day WAS entitled to the saflp WA
yes rs he who worked the whole day Or,
III other words. that the half was equal 10
the whole, he could not be cuutncrd that
those who paid spiritual allegiance to a fa-
i'm III tt,n a
raj allrgiance on.y t, orr own Sovereign
were entitled 10 the same pri, iirgrs as 9th
er snbjects. lie stood upon that broad
principle of justice. He admitted that il
was in great degree question OF eNpedl-
ency bat he woaId mol 90 10 the question
ofeXprdlency without having land the toun
daton Of the case on solii principle of
Justice. Noble Lords had said they never
heard 4 tpnabe a. gumrnt in opposition to
the Claims. He had heard the question
discussed for 20 years, and he had never
heard any man capable of giving direct
answer 10 The question. The Noble Earl
next proceeded 10 argue, that The Catholics
of ireland enjoyed more advantages than
any other people in Europe who were 81.
mlIdrly crcumstaLCed. Vhe Constitution
of this county was essentially Protestant,
and 1t was quite impossible to reconcile the |
system Of the church Of Rome with that
otl the Church of England, Their Lord |
ships ought to beware how they iufruged
on system which secured the best
interest of the country. We had now en-
joyrd 1870 years Of religious peace =
but their Lordships ought not 10 forget that
these had been preceded by 100 years of
ii religious war. The Noble Earl sal down
expressing his decided opposition to the
spirit and principle Of the bill, and calling
on their LordshiPs not To sanction it.
The Fart iarrop5g said, that as il was