Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1824-08-10
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NEW-YORK LEGISLATURE,
ALBANY, August 2, 1924.
I 1--WE have omitted tue Governors MESSAGE,
as OF 'ninor interest, until our nextl
The Message having been re adj. Mr. ES,,oer If n
neidn moved that the Message be ordered to lie ON
the table and be printed.
MIR. Barstow doubted whether this was the pro-
per mode of disposiug of it, n message from The
Executive should be treated with ,espect and law,
ing n document OF the kind the table was not the
most respectful mode of proceeding. He therefore
hoped that the question would be divided and ia
Ken trst on ordering the message to he printed Mr.
fuger asscntcd to the modification, and the motion
prevailed with but one negative
Nh. fiags then subnitsctf the following resoT,,-
tionS which the reader will perceive are exactly TIN
same as those offered IN the Senate, md may there
tore be considered the first fruits of the caucuses
held on Saturday aud sunday evenings
heSofred, That since the las: Adjournment of tha
Leslsiature, nothing has transpred within the letter
Oh spirit ~ the constitution, requiring extraord
nary session at this time; and therefore, the proca
nation OF the governor converting the same, is not
warranted by the constitution.
hfSfore7, That inasmuch the transac tion of
legislative business III obedience IL lroelama ton
mus indiscreey issued, and especially in relation
to a subject which had been repeatedly discussed
and acted upon by the legislature, at their 1ast
"eet'rs, would sanction a precedent of dangerous
tendency; and that tits dse to the members of tina
which they sit. and the oath they have taken to sup
port IT. as to the highest and best interests of their
constituents, that they should forthwith adjourn
Therefore,
Resohed, Gfthe Senate concur) That the two
houses will Immediately adjourn, to meet ae ain pur-
suant to law.
MIR. Fiagg observed in presenting them, that con-
Guiding with concurrent resolution-the same
would lie on the table one day of course, pursuant
to the standing rule of the house.
Ten. lallmadgc and remarked-ti,a tJ,o
message OF the Governor now before the House,
he thought IT would be proper to refer it n COM
mittee OF the whole, and make it the order of tho
DAY Tor Tomorrow. The message was an iinpor-
tan. document, and should take the usuaI eorse
He therefore submitted written motion to that cf-
icct But MIR. Flasg was so heavily charged that he
could not keep in his until the Speaker read the
resolution, but twice INTERRUPTED him. The resnlu
ton having been read however,
Mr. Flngg observed that he had no very decided
"oJecuoh 10 the course proposed, but nasmuch az
ne iu'iy believed that no extraordinary occasion
caed Tor the converting ofthe legislature. the fewer
ceremonies that attended it the better. His wish
was that the messr ge might be referred to select
committee not of nj lie! but of three tina ii might
be promptly disposed of. He wished that if possi-
n'e' not vestise Of this procedure might remain on
our records Ii would be better, far, that the whole
should be ohiterated. The call was insip,,ificant
and should be treated as such.
Mr. w henton said he hoped the resolution Of hi)
honorable friend from Dutcess (AIr. TaIlnadeee
"N'i' Wv "'ioIfltt, anu tndt the message would BIS
rciefea To Il committee ol the whole. He wished il
TO prevail, because il dccorous to the Execu-
uVe' aud because ii was the usual course, both at
ordinary and extraordinary Sessions. The first
movement should be to refer it to the committee of
the whole, and II would then be proper subject
for consideration whether TO refer il in whole or in
parts, tn Il select comnitte committees. By a
general reference in the first instance, full and
nee discussion could be had of the proper subse-
quent disposal or distribution Of it. He could nnt
discern the sadly the scnblance Of IN
the remarks of his hon. friend from Clinton (Mr.
flagg) why this message should be treated differ
emily from others. Is il because the nature of which
II treats is of an insignificant character That gem
uehian must freely admit, that the subject on which
the house was assembled one of great and vital
Importance tn the people. If he had made UP his
m'ni to conviction that the call was unconstitu-
tioial yet 1T could not be supposed that other mem
bcrs had come with their minds equally preiudaed
upon the question. MIR. W. wished not ONLY tina, .
time might be given for reflection, but that the COM
munication might be treated with respect by the
course IN which 1t was disposed of. He was will
ing tiat the resolutions of the gentleman should
take the same course, and the whole matter would
then be open for reflections and free and ample dis
cussion.
Mr.. flagg then offered a substitute for the reso-
iuioh' ne mad hrs introduced referring the message
10 select committee of three The gentleman
wants time for reflection. Let him have it. But
now did he act last winter? lie came hither with
long bii prepared at home, and which he wanted To-
eI" uosVu AT once before the House orga niZed,
he diG not then want time for so much reflection
we nave now no new subject before NE have
once decided upon the electoral bill, and by the rules
OF the House, we cannot take it up again. To be
sure, The Governor had introduced other subject
and why, he could tell, necessity for tex
ised. This was not proper season investigate
steam boat machinery. That would be a disagre
able subject.
Mr.. Barstow denied that the message contained
but one subject for deliberations. Three dis
tinct propositions submitted, each of which
should he referred TO separate committees. 1t was
not per1ap s very material in which form, a quss-
ton IN ORDER the proposition put, but hrs
preston was that motion to- refer TO the commit
tee OF the whole, being standing committee, took
preference to a motion TO refer a select commits
tee.
Mr.. Morss made few observations in support of
the same question of order which not heard.
Mr.. Crazy remarked that ii should be remember-
ell that the executive was coordinate branch of
the government and before undertake TO ar
raigp the governor, it would be we'll to examine into
our own Conduct. fire gentlemen now willing to
AVOID coming forward in support of measure for
which they voted last wiDicr2 The bill was then
passed almost una nmously, four members only vo~
ting against IT, And will they now shew by their
acts that their vote then hypocrisy, UiIl the
gentleman from Clinton acknowledge that he was
playing the hypocrite last winter when he reported
IN favor of the bill, and voted for G There was no
fifhculty in the present Legislation was like
other ordinary business-and where men have fair
and bona fife purpose attain, there was no diff
;uty in coming directly 20 the object. Instead