Constitutional Whig. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1824-1832, 1824-03-05

The Senate then agreed to take up the bill ayes
-, noes 9.
| Mr.CHApMAS JOHNSON then proposed an amend
nen (the same which the Senate yesterday reject
cd, and upon which they had asked the 2nd confer
ence to day. to this effect: That the bonus of
$4,000 shall be loaned by the President and Direc-
tors OF the fund for Internal Improvement, to the
Rector and Visitors ofthe University, upon their giv
ing satisfactory assurances fireplace tin II months
with lawful interest. Providing further that $780,
ooO OF the debt due by the United, States, to the
state Of Virginia be appropriated to the University
and pledged for the reimbursement of said S5OO0O
| to the fund for Internal Improvement.
This amendment was adopted by ayes and noes.
AYES--Holt (Speaker) Johnson of Chesterfield,
Goodwyn,Johnson of Augusta, Allen, Brown, Ruff
I'm, AlcCary Page, Campbell, Hill, Cabcll, Otey, H.
| NOES--Clop,on, Wyatt, Boyd, Dade, Hoge, Dun
can, fhom, Claiborne, Rose, Q.
Yesterday the House ofDelegates after passing the
Auctioncers bill, and several others of minor comse
quence, adjourned for the want of business to one
| O'Clock.
On rcassembng,
MIR. Dade delivered massage from the Senate,
asking sec5,,9 conference, the " bill extending
the charter OF the Farmers Bank of Virginia.
Mr.. Loyal, advocated the proposition of the Sc
nate. The only objection to it, was the consump-
ton of time. But the House had in fact nothing
|
movements OF the Senate he thought this objection
did not apply.
The House refused to grant the conference, ayes
63, noes 10.
| Mr. Randolph who had voted in the minority, en-
curing II 1t was III order to move reconsideration
Of the just given
| Mr. Carter of Richmond county, who had voted
| in the majority, to oblige Mr.. Randolph, moved
suspension of the fourth rule of the House, for the
purpose of rcconsdering the vote rejecting the con-
ference.
Mr. Randolph advocated the motion, but in a
voice so low, that he could be heard by the Re-
porter.
Mr. Garland considered the grant of conference
as matter of courtesy. 1t had seldom or never
been refused He hoped the motion to reconsider
would prevail.
MIR. Blackburn was opposed in all cases to sus-
pend the rules of the House--he was particularly
opposed in this case from the great consumption of
| time that had already occurred
Mr.. Bower advocated the motion to reconsider,
and replied particularly to MIR. Blackburn.
Mr.. Blackburn rejoined.
Mn. Harvie said that II might be deemed strange
by the House that he was opposed the motion for
| reconsidering He had been, & was strenuous ad-
vocate for rcchartering the Farmers Bank. 1t was
known also to the House, that he had voted against
the appropriation OF the bonus, the fund for Inter-
nal improvement. He thought it would be more be-
nihcially applied to the University of Virginia. and
ne was still willing TO give it that direction Much
time had been wasted in this matter. The principle
oil extension had been expressly decided in both
houses. They differed the conditions, but the
propriety OF extension was admitted by both. They
had asked one conference which had proved una
vailing, and they now asked another. He asked the
House II there was chance of the Universirys re-
turning this bonus, out of its funds, the Internal
Improvement fund, in twelve months, and if not, if
the appropriation to the University on such condi
tons, was not a mere delusion. 1t was gull,
| ht", deception. He hoped the Bank would be re-
chartered buthe thought it an useless waste of time
to hold another Conference. He believed that if this
| House stood firm, the Senate would recede from
| their ground and pass the bill.
Mr.. Gordon replied to Mr.. Ha@vic. He observed
that MIR. Harvie had called the proposition of the
| Senate, upon which they had asked a conference
fdclusiye. Mr.. Gordon read the proposition (Mr
Johnson's amendment, for which, see proceed
ings of the Senate) shew that it was not deusiye
but substantial. He was convinced that if MT Har-
vie had considered this proposition, that he would
not have called, nor thought it delusive.
| MIR. Harvie said that he was not mistaken in his
idea of the Senate's proposition The Board of Pub
lie Works was to appropriate the Bonus to the Uni
versity, when they had satisfactory assurances that
the Government ofthe U. States would pay the mo-
ncy 1t amounted to mere instruction to the board
OF Public Works, which that body would see through,
md disregard.
MIR. Taylor said that he was not in the House,
when the vote on the conference taken. The
two houses had agreed upon the question of extern
sion, and differed only the minor point of the APP
preparation of the bonus. Being thus agreed upon
the most important point, would they suffer it to be
deeate by sticking for of minor consideration,
Mr. Taylor did not consider the appropriation of the
Bonus to the University, infringing upon the prin-
cples, upon which the Fund for Internal Improve
| ment nad been created. The Literary fund had
In Into nal ,,D
| and this was only reciprocating the favor. He was
for settling this difference upon just and equitable
principles He wished the two funds to be kept sa-
cred and distinct, and lie did not believe that the
direction of the bonus the University, would de-
feat either purpose. He hoped the House would u
| gree to suspend the rule.
Mr.. Ayett, asked for information, as to the uucs-
ton before the House (Thc chair explained.) Mr..
Aylet said he presumed the Senate asked for COR
ference, to submit specific propositions Though not
very old or experienced in Legislation, he was old
enough to khow thf for the last years at least
this course had been attended with little or no effect
| Upon what were we to confer? Mr. Aylett reflected
with some warmth upon the course of the Senate
He said they appeared unwilling to relinquish the
bill from their clutches He did think it became
| them to manifest so much distrust of the course of
| this House, but that il would have become them to
have acted more decisivey on the bill before them
| He had voted against the former conference, and
his motives doubty strong to vote also against
this. Mr.. Aylett said he considered this bill as
fraugh with great consequences Of good evil to the
! country.
nate.
Mr.. Mann, said that he had voted against rechar-
tering the Bank in every shape, but for the purpose
of giving all sides chance, he had voted for the con-
ference first asked believing that nothing was to be
gained byit, he should vote against this.