Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1824-08-13

'e''y reurction, nut he Thought On the ground
| assumed by the S-na'e of censuring The Exc
| curve, or the ground assumed by this House
81 u"ing the same, il WAS equally cumpe,rn,
tosreak of The votes of another b. anrh. Tn,
discretion ut converting this Legislature Mas
coHaded to thu Governor. What if here, as
IN some cases with the Presidents prucla,na.
tiUn, that of the Executive had been of itselfa
law, aud as such oblgatory,-could any one
nave resisted II, on the ground Of its having
been indscree,ly issued? He aprrehend.d
NOT. But precedent, it seems, is against us.
PUBLIC opinion is our standard--if our public
acts are approved by the community il is sur-
ic'eot; aud the authority of precedent is
worthless. If precedent had prey allied. we
should still have been colonies Precedent is
only binding here, when ratified by the judy-
ment and good sense sf the community.
MIR. BaistOw said he thought il necessary TO
explain shortly, the reason for his vote. He
did not mean 10 enqLire, or To pronounce whe-
ther the Governor had acted discreetly or IN
discreety-but he did not think the House
called upon to judge Of such matters. 1t was the
lot OF man to commit indiscretions. This
House had doubtless thought that the Cover
nor was ind'screet in rejecting bills which this
House had passed with great unanimity. Yet
never dreamt of passing crnsures on him. Mir
b. said he himself had thought the ACT of the
Senate in postpOning the Electoral Bill inds-
Greet yeth never heard or dreamt Of vote
oil censTeby this House On them. He had al
so sometimes thought the conduct of the Hon
orable Speaker indiscreet-but vet never con-
sidered il other than as we'll mentioned. and
exempt consequently from censure. He really
therefore thought this resolution quite below
the dignity Of the house.
Much desuitOry discussion ensued II was
coh,enoed that It Is contrary to the decision
ehaIr In nacf IL
nate branches Of the Legislature. The Spea.
ker said he had had occasion repeatedly to
announce that 1t was out of order TO speak
| unexpectedly Ofany member of this House.
or of the Senate. He had made no other de.
| cis'on. MIR. Pi.rson thought the char had de-
cIued That no dlsrespectiul language should be
used respecting any coordinate branch. and
wished to be- informed from Inc chat, how
that was, ard whether the rules of the House
were different before and after dinner The
Speaker repeated, that the only decision he
had made was, that no disrespectfuI language
must he used on that floor concerning a mem
Der OF the House OF Senate. Mr.. Hubbard, of
Chenang0, said, gentlemen were now great
suckers Tor rules, who, this morning, Tor the
accomplishment Of their purpose, were ready
TO 0verthrow and trampie under foot all ,uir
and order. Mr. Gardner, with some warmth.
called the gentleman to order He required
him to explain whom he alluded to in these
remarks. MIR. IL. said, the gentleman was un-
necessarily warm. He meant no particular
reference, but only TO say that in tlieir zeal.
TINS morning, to accomplish particular pur-
pose, gentlemen had been willing to dispense
with all rules. Mr.. III. supported the resoIu-
ton under discussion, and hoped it would no,
be laid on the table. The debate was further
prolonged, when the question being about IN
0e put on laying the resolution on the table
Mr. whiting rose. and made an animated
speech against the tenor of the resolution
concluding with the hope that it would not he
permitted to lie on the table, but would be
met on ITS merits and rejected. The question
Tor laying the resolution, offered by Mr.. Spen-
Ger, on the table, was then taken by yeas and
nays, and lost. A motion was then made.
that the said resolution be rejected but be
fore the question could be taken, motion to
adjourn till 10 o'clock to- morrow was made
and prevailed.
in SENATE.
Thursday Afternoon. Augu 5th.
The Senate met pursuant to adjournment.
The LII. GsvernOr announced message from |
the Assembly-wherenpo the clerk read the |
concurrent resolution from the Assembly, Dur |
porting that an Electoral Bill should be enact. |
ed at this session. The President asked il
there was any motIon-Mr. Burt moved 20
III.
thought the resolution out of order. The Pre-
sident thereupon rose aud gave his reasons AT
enS'h, why this resolution was out of order.
Some debate ensued-when finally, motion
was made by Mr.. Nelson, that all rules anu
orders interfering with the question, be suspen
ded Tor the time being. This motion the Chair
ais" pronounced out sof order. Mr. Nelson,
,hereupon appealed, and supported his appeal,
IN firm, dignifed, and manly manner -
when the question being taken, nineteen Sc |
natoIs were found TO ratity The decision of the |
Chair-that the motion was out Of order 10 |
propose to the Senate to suspend its own rules |
and thus the resolution in The Peoples House
was strangled. The following is the division.
AfES.-Messrs Bowman, Bovine, Br0non,
Dudley, Earl, Eason, Green, Greenly, Keyes.
Leifrrls, Livingston, Mallory, RedGeId, SlTsn' |
aham, Sudan, Ward, Wheeler, Wooster,
Wright.-I9.
NOES.-Messrs. Burrow, Burt. Clark. |
Cramer, Gardiner, Haight, Lynde, MIntyre,
Nelson, Ogden.-iO.
FROM THE ALBANY ARGUs-ExTRA.
Friday Evening, August 6. { |
The CONCLUSION-AND THE TRIUMPH. |
Inc legislature of this state adjourned at |
O'Clock this afternoon.
Notwithstanding all the boosting of the in
iuriated writers for the Oppostion--notwilh-
standing The unceasng efforts of persons. the |
pretended friends Of the peopie,n who as |
sembled here in vast numbers, who were
stationed in the gallery to cheer and hiss al
ternateiy, and who out of doors were bold, |
busy, and Observation-Disclosures the eff |
ORE 70 coerce and overswe, by Glamour, to
uscei'e by false statements, and to alarm by |
reports OF pretended excitements--notwith-
standing the immediate and personal attempts