Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1823-05-20

distrust, naturally created by lnng opp",i--
ton To The views uf his majrs,y's ministers,
and TN the present occasion he l-lt NOR,
than ordinary poTtun uf that feeling :, for he
could not but think that il that had bees,
done al Verona which ought To have been
done, and il that tone Of language had been
assumed with a tetrrmins.inn tn support iil
which this country ought to have held, Wa
should not az this moment have been IN ilp.
melancholy and alarming situation that We.
were. What he apprrlientae.lI run, the mode,
Of proceeding proposed by the noble earl,
was, that he Earl Grey apsl other nnble
lords Who Thought as he did, might Ind
themselves in this dil.mma-riihvr by their
silence though they might disapprovs aud dis
sent. from the noble earl (Liyrrppni) to give
AN impression to the public that they. ,iryTuv-
ed, or be forced into premature discussion
before they had considered the papers submit
ted TO them. lie hoped therefore, that ths.
noble earl would reconsider the matter, and
would lay the papers on the table, and ad--
Jnurn his statement TO Il future day, when
their lordships having been in possession uf
the papers, woud he fully competent Ia
make remarks np0p il. There was one mer,.
remark that he would make - In the state {"
which things vera fast approaching, nothing
could he more interesting than "A proper I'm
dersiandmS of our eXislng engagements miti,
foreign powers, and. inurr particularly with
! France. He had NOT had time 10 h,pk mi
| nulrly init, the Treaties which had been Laid
on their lnrdship's tabln, but from The state
nents which had been Made rps,,rcting them,
az considered them fair. Tie hoped and trust
ed there existed no secret engagements that
, the public were not in possession Of and il
any such existed. which had hrrn u,:i,!r AT 4.
former period, and under different ci,c,un-
stances, i.e trusted we were not so far fe,ier.
eel hy-them to the government of France rs
m he obliged 10 give any support ~ their inn
prudent nay he would say th.i- inigDitous
and understandable conduct towards Spain.-4
He trusted thai D't!iere were such engage
inenis, contracted wi til other views tina, thew
would not he thought binding in the house.
or by his maiestys government ;and he trust
ed that his nIjcsy's ministers had felt it To
he part of their duly To apprise foreign g'-.'-;
ernments that by such engagement. this
country was in no shape hound.
The Earl Of Liverpool said, on the first
| part of the Noble Earl's observations he pu!tt
say only few words. OF The propri9ty o.
| the proceedings at Verona the House wnuli
be best able Ia Judge when the papers were
heiorc them, aud whether the proper steps
had ar had n0i been taken. All he would n,w.
| request was. that tho Noble Lord, the House,
and The public, would not pre- Judge his Ma.
Jesiy's Government. Till they saw what lia,k
been done by the Noble Person, by wh,m ,h,.
negotiations ai N-runa had bren conducted on
( our part. As Ia the course of proceeding, he
Could not conceive that ANY improper prriu--
dice could he created by stating the contents;
of ihe papers, and what The prinsipl-s were,
on which the nrgotiations had been carried
on lie could, indeed, see IA great eonyrn--
lency In that course IN the Hnuse, and even
to those Nohfe Lilrds rlin might be- desirous
| ot making hostile nluipn.- Besides, the
| House would observe this was not a cas,.
where hostiliiles had commenced. Hoslilitics,
were generally preceded bya declaration, anil
The papers then were produced To give vuii
~ 10 the declaniien; but the case was off.
iereni here, protesting as wa did Il strir, neu~
traliiy. He irj:sied the House would SEA, the
necessity of thu explanation with which he
proposed to aycompany the piper. for rs
| the negotiations we're partly conducted III We
roma and partly mt Paris and Madrid, ib.rs.
were many connecting links without which
II wonid he impossible for. the House or th,
public to Form correct Judgment, wiihunt
such explanation wert, gwen. if the explana-
tons which H. s!inr!d give should moi he So
Etisfactory, iiwould- be competent for the Mo-
BILE Lord Ia demand further information, and
To call the attention fthc Ilousr 10 the IS hole
Of the papers, or any part OF them. With res
| pect To the engagements G this country with
foreign Powers he could say there were NJ.
secret engagements with France which coull
contra,ene The public engagements contained
| in til" treaties which had been laid on The e.,
bic of The House. Those engagements were
of completely negafi,e nature, and rtlaied
TO The exclusion Of the family nf the late rt-
Ter OF France from the throne of that conptry.
Tins country was undrr no obligation except
tfhat gi'HefaL engagement tD concert with the
otlfr Powers measures for prrser,in ing the
peace of Europe The Noble Ear con. u,!
ed by moving that the House, at lis rising DO
adjourn 10 the 10th of April.
! The Earl Of DaInlry put some questions
across the table respecting, as I've understood,
the disposition Of The additional number OF
seamcn voted this year.
| Lord Melville said lhai i, would appear by
The VOTES ofthe other House of Parliament,
that there had been an augmentation Oi. ina
Inumbero f scamen, from &4,og0 Ca $1,000
but he declined entering into aay discussion in
that House Is To the manner in which they
were 10 hc employed.
! Enrl Grey said he was moi DESTROYS of pro,
longing this Discussion, Isu, there was one
word used by The Noble Earl Iii, erpooI} of
| which b. should he glad to have an rNpana--
ton. The Noble Earl said there Was ROT ANY
secret aritir which contra, enrd lie en- sagc-
ments of me public treaties what he would
ask, was iils--fere there any secret articles
which extended Or gave greater iorce TO those
"ngagenjeuts ,s.,
The EaIl Of Liserpools said, he had no he's
iiaiiou IN answering The NoIlc Lord in his
own w0rds--thut4h was no secret article
to exiendeF give grcater force io the engage.
mrnis which would be- found in the papers in
the possession of;lle House.
The conversation then dropped, ard tie
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