The Portland gazette. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1818-1824, 1822-01-29

ava n the particular interest Which nat inAurf
I'd give employment NJ them 0r pTcrcat thcir nn.
INTO H. and the other hy having tendency w ia..S
the number Of gros shops because Of l.e hcease +.
Its IL excessive use OF spiriunus hqaor that nr,.
% tic hummer ~ panpers IA TINS country and ~ E
tes uf Obtaining ". ought 70 nc checked rather Nh.
encouraged ~acre ilrre are most ~ these -
Shops. there aTr tHP most paIJrrS. The nespn,
I've said bal heen n operation less thar a wear =.
during that tine mHch good had resulted ft1al /,
hls town he had observed is avnurahll opcrati8n Mn
overseas were watcrtl lrft foreigners aud others
miIht become chargrah, should rome upon item .o
many had been scns away, which would 10. hare -
doue II they had MT l,lt immediate Interest IN -
H. aud which the system proposed would IN his otisi
destroy let therefore. sait he, continue thu 80
ncnt little longer and not, bv continually .r,r@
lose the benefit ~ any permanent system.
Com. TUCKER observed that he WIS opposed to.I
law as il now existed. Where ne lived II opcrr,ea s.
equally and every where on the sea board iorrexg.
are cast a4gag on rough coast and 1auv raa,ts
thrown III VIA 'fituie cOnuition upon tire hnrlarr
towns. al such persons must be provided ior i,,-
the expence Of the towns. II was said, Ne ccaa-aes
that grog shops were great u paupersr, ~.
sir said he present system encourages rrus sh,..
bv making i tie iatrfest Of towns ID sell licenses "
should therefore vote for the bill.
Mr.. THATCHER observed that the gentleman r..
Portland had changed his opinion since the last sesin
for then he understood he in Opposiiioa 70 IT,
law as il was theu introduced Mr. Adams here ccnes
"a the gentleman from Warren and said that tluarh
Ne was opposed ~ the bill rs ii was reported W. MI
objections were ohrfafrd hy the amendments which
were made III n Of which he proposed siilnsrs
which was 70 give the license money 20 the towns
Mr. Thatcher continued. that he was not surprised
that the gentleman from Portland Mr. al should tein
dvor Of tie Law now existing, tor his town parr-
ulariy favoured BY H. receiving more money for en-
SEES than any town IN the and nearly half OF all
paid in the county Of Cumberland He said that what
the gentleman had advanced respecn. other countries
where there were immense Cries was wholly irrra-
want 10 this state. where the population thinly
tered great tsWns as Mr.. Jefferson saws are great
Sores bat we have none such Il not necessary
that should be admonished by tire examples of other
countries when they did moi apply 70 our case. They
had no to DO with us. than we had with China
where portion Of their population is starved drown
ed. The present bill Is the existing law a.
the state Paupcrs II gentlemen dislike any part OF the
bil Lei them amend IT, unpariamentary condemn
the whole until they have cnieavored 10 IL In
detail they should amend Il not DESTROY he should
object 10 amy modification BY which his object might be
obtained.
That pauperisn was an evil he would not deny-he
wished no one was poor TO need public support,
but we have scripture authority that poverty ex-
lst for 1t says. tie poor We have always with
vou; il was tie object then 10 devise the most equal
mode OF supporting them; the law is present he
believed il the most unequal. Some towns making
money hy their licenses and he has been informed ~
some a the members, that though their receive
more money FIR licenses than they paw out to the
poor yet they should support this bill We must not he
governed By local interest in this case but do jasice
sir said he, That the present system evies an
unequal tax upon the community for some towns re-
cer', money without giving support while others are
compelled 70 give support without receiving money.
The law Is therefore, in is spirit unconstitutional
&c whole system is wrong and the only way to restore
Isl support the state paupers from the treasury
Mr.. BURR, rose and moved that when tie
question was taken il should be taken bv yeas
and nays. Carried.
Mr.. VIRGEN, said that notwithstanding the al
Iusions Of the gentleman from Warren, that men
we're governed by private interest in this nues-
ton be should still advocate the profcssed 70
act from conscientious motives, and he did not
see any thing in the present law demonstrations
II or unequal but he believed il to be tire best,
jlat circnmst noes admitted. The system which
his bill IS intended to introduce hc said, was very
unequal and unjust. Who're il prevailed
many towns made money at the expence Of the
state, for they received more menev from the
Treasury than all their poor cost them. lie
stated that certain town in Oxford formerly re-
cciycd from Mass. sufficient for the support III
two "a IPeri who resided in the town; but Wien
he support was thrown upon themselves, they
rave them employment and looked 10 II that
MY NtAC 10 tA pence 10 niSfn lie said M
knew Of a town in the county ofOxford that had
nd themselves of paupers since The passage OF
he new law He sail that under the oh
'rstem Portland received enough frarn The state
% pay all her paupers and he understood from
)ne OF the committee Of accounts in Mass thai
on inspection il had been found that Marbl eheal
and Bradford, had each received for wears an an.
lual sum from the treasury for the support Of pau
pers who had long been dead and buried. Ma
nv towns nc said have iail up hundreds Of dollars
by tie old system and have even invited
them state paupers that thew might make ,ro-
ii out Of their support. But il was said. he OH
served that Portland receives more for licenses
than i costs her 70 support state poor-b ifthc
DID state system should again prevail would he
not have more state raupers ia support and con-
Seqnently receive much out Of the State Trea-
sury Is her licenses would put in. lie was mt
by the situation Ofhis town 90 this sub
leCt she had two state paupcrs and but few
licenses, yet she was satisfied with the present
system.
MIR. ADAMS. wished II correct the gcntlcrnan
last up with regard to his statement rclatin- y
Portland ne sail the state poor under the od
system were supported in the same house and Il
the same eNpcncc as the town poor, and thev
received for their support from the State Trca-
srry the same price n The others from the torn
treasury. lie said he hid never been an OYER
seer and never expected 70 be one but that he
knew something Of the accounts as he had hal
the management If tlcrn when in tie legislature
OF Mass. What was said Of the liccRsc mcnty
received By this town was also incorrect. for u