Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1822-02-19
iFToa' IA National intelligence.
EXTRACTS FROM THE
PROCEEDINGS OF CONGRESS
DEBlTE on THE 8PPoR. JONergYT g5LL.
lcou'inaed from 18th paeel
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

WI. hEi rs iildue Il teW observations express
si'e OF ms belief thai il would comduce 10 tie
benefit and safety of the nation Ia have the
ratio SO high as to diminish the numbers of
the house. Under that impression he had
proposed large ratio ; but he found hims, II
III SO small Il minority that he began To doubt
whether he was correct. No one would think
that he, hr. a. would speak "A word or
influence vote which could operate against
the liberties OF the pcople-fcr in his Younger
days, he had contributed 10 establish, and pro-
mote them. He was now in favor of con,ri
batting the bill for the purpose of striking oat
$4,000 and inserting $500. The difference
was small and the latter number would ac-
commodatc several ofthe smaller states which
the former would exclude. He believed that
taxation and representation ought To 20 hand
in hand. He recollected that, before liz,
unnatural war which Britain wayed against
hef colonies, this principle WAS earnestly con-
tended Tor by the latter, and In order TO give ii
eihcacy II was requisite Ia apportion the repre-
scntalion IS nearly as possible among the PEG
pie that were To be taxed. Mr. Il. asu replied
tn the remarks ofMI. Ross AID concluded by
expressing hs hope that the motion for recon-
mitment would prevail.
Mr. MOORE, ofAiabama, remarked, al this
period ofthe debate, ii required AN apology 10
the house for intrnding upon It's patience. He
Was nla'or OF the ratio AT $4,000, as proposed
by the gentleman from Pennsysvan;a. mir.
Tod,) 1t WAS not indeed the number which ne
Should preier-nor ould he deny that he was
aciuaca, III that preference, by motives that
looked III the state ofAlabama. He said that
were the ratio of 10000 10 succeed, il woaRl
leave that young AID thriving state with a
traction oi more than $4,000 over and above
That part OF the population that had not been
returned under The census, and which was be-
heyed To exceed twelve Thousand and in ten
years he believed the ratio would operate ;rcbly
barber upon that state thanon any other in lh,
union. by the lime of another enumeration il
would probably possess Il population of IJ1,-
700 persons, and ratio so disappointment
couid mol III ms opinion, he with propnrly
adopted.
After some further debate, the question. be-
ing on the passage Of the bill
Mr.RANDoLPH again rose TO address the
house. Tins bill went, as had been tnurc
Than once SAID, and could not he too often said,
10 ulsmemher the representation of none hut
me OLD States ofthis conftderacy. Ii ever
there was government under The sun W heft.
the greatest degree ofiihcraiity had been rx-
ercised 10y the government towards he would
not say It's provinccs--aRd yet, said Mr.. Il
we nave acquired provinces, not that we might
RUE them with rod of IRON, bat that they
-
mcnt that deserved, from the new acccssinns
to the confcdoracy, generosity, tenderness.
llbcrality, gratitude, the government of The
old states Is that government. But, SAID Mr.
Ii. we ask nothing of that sort we ask moth
ing Dut justice. We say, give us law, ifyuu
please sheer iaw-but give us tar. Aud then,
SIR, we shall BIZ met with a decentralization
ing, must b. permitted To say, from that
quarter with not the best of all possible grace.
On the unrePresenledpo population oft new 6,
risin5 siates-yes, the rising contra distinguish
ed rom the sinking, siates--unce The Rising
StdttS was toast III our sailors mouths d
slgn-bOald FOR our taverns familiar in mem.
mouths as household words-but nov \ new
distinction is taken bctw cen the rising and tlI,
sinking states. Aud from whom, said Mr.. r
do we hear of this unreprescntrd populnlion
From the states beyond the mountains =
beyond the Mlsslssippi-nOt indeed beyond
Aurora and the Ganges, but where the setting
sun allays his golden axle not in tlie steer
! Atlantic stream, but IN the Pacific from
states which, with population Of 60, goo souls
have for years been admitted in Scnate TO Z
voice potential as the greatest.
Mr.. X. said, he would again call the alten
ton of the elder brethren Ofthe confrdcracy-
the political Esdus of our tribe, Ia the pred
camcnt IN which they stand. We have heard
SAID he, great deal of the wisdom of the
men who framed the constitution under which
we now sit. have much faith in their WIS
domain mistaken and Interchangeable faith in
their virtue ; but | will believe cxpcricnc,
against the word of Solomon himself
then say that, in nay feeble apprehension
they committed an error, Fundamental and
fatal as praciSed upon since by THEN success
! sors They made a provsiun for he the nd
mission OF new states into the Union-and o
what nature? They went across the Ohio
they did not dream at tliat time nG going be.
/ yond the Mississippi and the Ro, Ky Mountain:
| -ibey marked out certain diagrams i'm th,
map, within the actual limits of which n,
white man had dared ln shrw his head anC
they said, in the simplicity of their hcnrts
That, when these ideal territories should
possess each population of 900 souls. they
should he states, and should havr an couisoi
lent weight III the other branch Of the govern
ment, and weight, in the election nfPrcsi
dent and Vice President of the United States
compounded Of their representation there
and here
+ This, Mr.. Il. said, brought him 10 another
point. He never had voted but flr one a
mrudmeDt To- the constitution Of the UnitcC
States and lac had lived to sec the time whcr
he was by no means sure that he gave wise
&, Though he was perfectly certain that he CAV,
an honesty vote, ON that recession. Mr.. II
said, lac was one of those 50 little disposed {,
End fault with, and innovate upon, establish
I'd government, as 10 have rendered nimsei
obnoxious 10 the opposite charge of upholdin.
, old abuses. Yet &c should not br sorry, h,
said, 10 sec this provision in the Constitution
+, That whoever proposed an Amendment To IN,
corsliiution should, as in some other state
That wc have read OF, do it with h.lcr ab0u
E hes neck, and, if the proposition did not sue
cecd-if it failed TO be- adopted that the mo
8 Npr shnnld be- innfnniIr tn nI ~ ~ -.