Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1820-04-14
SPANISH RELATIONS.

Secretary of State. dated 81. Petersburg roth
Oct0ber. { LIST Norembe',) 1919. c0niGiniHg dc.
tails Of Il Conversation ,rith Count NcS,cir0de
" Your despatch, No. 5, vi June Sd mad The
honor to receive u tew days ago.
- Alter some general conversation, he in.
quired (as presumed lie would do, and wait
cal tor kim 10 Introduce the subjecD ii had
any certain account OF what Spain was doing,
or had done respecting the Treaty lately coii-
Guided by her minister IL Washington with
our government | had shortly before RECEIVE
ed, from Mr.. Gallatin a letter, confirming the
account, which had already reached me thro'
the new spaper, that the kiu, had Ieiused to
raiity the Treaty, until he should obtain some
previous explanations, relating, az stated ty
Mr.. Gdliatln. To two points LIST, The decla-
ration MIR. Forsythw was instructed on eXchang-
in: the notifications, 10 Put in, that the giant
10 the Duke a Alason. :sr lauds ia the ceded
territory, which, though Intended 10 be, was
not, hy the terms of the treaty made mill
should he considered as uuli and. I'd, an en-
ga :em+nt required by Spain, OH the part OF
our sovernmSnt moi 10 recognise the indepan-
dencc OF ANY Oi the Spanish colonies; and That,
10 demand these explanations "A minister X
traordmary was 10 he sent TO Washington,
though Mr. Forsyth! had offered, as instruct
Ell, To give iu'l explanations, on amy point
connected with the Treaty: therefore in
formed The CO1ut l had received authentic
information. though not from my gov erumeut,
tll"t The King had refused his assent to The
Treaty, uStil he should obtain explanations
Oh certain points. for which purpose lie pro-
posed sending a minister extraordinary TO
Washington. l took this occ aston TO remark
further, that, by official information from nv
government felt myself authorised TO stale
that Mr.. OnlS. the Spanish minister was fully
empowered 10 conclude the Treuty. and might
have yielded mare than he did, without ex-
ceeding Ills authority; and that The points OH
WHICH II was now proposed 10 ask explanations
had been fully discussed before The Treaty
was signed, and their intent and meaning cX-
piIcitiy understood by both parties of which
The Spanish court was fully informed, aud our
I mis- enr eI,sN., Il
explanations, which he offered 10 do, GA any
points. relating 10 the Treaty, that might be
supposed tn require nem. i added thai the
Treaty was, undoubtedly, under all circum-
stances highly favorable TO Spain, and that
was satisfied a strong desire mihe part ofmy
government to preserve peace alone induced
them 10 agree to its provision that presum-
Ell ne had been informed respecting the terms
OF the Treaty by MIR. PoIeiica with whom
l. understood you had freely communicated
on the subject. He said MIR. Poletica had
advised him that, from the explanations re-
ceiyed from you respecting 1t, the Treaty was
by him considered favorable 10 Spain then
referred 10 the grant 10 the Duke d'AlagOn,
briefly stated the nature of il, as made known
to me, and observed, that, should the views of
the King, as now ayowed in relation to it,
supposed the principal point on which eXpla-
nation was required, be acquiesced in, the
chief object OF entering into The Treaty would
0e thereby frustrated that, by one of its pro
VISIONS the United States government agreed
to pay, OH account of Spain, to their own c-
tiZenS, for spoilations committed by her sub.
Jects, or IN her ports, contrary To Treaty, five
millions OF dollars, out OF the proceeds of the
sales of lands i'll the coded territory hut
should this grant, said TO inclHte a very IarCe
portion OF those lands, be confirmed, the sum
assigned tor that purpose wOnid fail, and, of
course, this provision of The Treaty could not
be complied with.
He appeared to feel the full force of the
remark, giving his consent TO the conclusion
drawn, and proceeded TO observe, il was to be
regretted that Spain did not understand her
own Interest better than she seemed to do
that II was difficult 10 conceive, in her pres
ent situation, what could induce her TO take
the course she had done, and refuse TO rati!y
d treaty favorable To herself, aud concluded
ny ner minister vested with full pow eT for the
purpose. lie then remarked oil The great in-
poitahce OF preserving peace. as far as prac
! ucable, among tie civilized nations of the
world; inquired what Spain could now do, in
regard TO the business, by sending Minister
10 Washington, aud what course our govern
mehI wOnid be likely 10 adopt oil the coca
sion.
replied. that, as to 81 ain. could form 10
opinion OF the motives by which she was GO
VerDed ! did not perceive what she could do,
unless Sue receded from her objections TO the
lIeaiy and, aSto my own government, though
was satisfied of its strong desire 10 piesGrye
peace, cOnld not pretend TO say what course
IL might conceive itself called on 10 take on
the present occasion, though presumed no
decisive measures would he adopted, TO
y,
two Countries, until COngTes should convene,
Saily IN December, and the course then pnr-
sheu would probably deperd upon what SPAN
should, ~ the mean time, do.
tie thGn inquired how soon / expected to
near from my government, alter II had been
ADVISED OF The refusal oil lie part of Spain 10
Tdtiiy the Treaty; and, being told that could
not state the precise time with any degree
OF certainty, bat that il wOnld undoubtedly be
as soon as dispatches could reach this from
Washington, he expressed, with some earnest.
ness, his wish that 1 should make known TO
hn at as early day as might be convenient
SUCH information as I might receive from nv
government or tbis subject"
Count keBseTOde.
Ertract If n letter from mr. FORSYTH 10 The SEC.
retdTy@ State, dated Madrid, january Sd,
1890.
y few days after the date ofmy last, mum.
bered 10, had d visit from the cOsnt Bnlgatv.
the Russian charge d. afiaires He came 10
zee me 10 consequence of a conversation he
had just had with the duke Of Ssn Fernando,
respecting my official letter Of the 18th Of DC,
t0ber, aud the subsequent correspondence in
relation TO IL. He stated TO rue, that the dixie
regretted The necessity OF sending back tie
lttteT, but that u was so harsh 10 IFS terms he
could not place il before the King to this was
added great many assurances Of personal
kindness aud good will not necessary TO be
repeated. replied, that il was very Dortr~
ing TO NE, 10 be obliged TO send the letter i'm
The first instance, and not less so Ia Insist ON
us beng received that The duke had put IL
| ohi OF my power 10 act otherwise than had
dono bot that there was no difiic0itl in a.
yoiding The unpleasant consequences likely 10
ensue. Tue duke bad nothing TO do bIu 10
give me such assurances in regard 10 the
grants ~ would render il supeInoous for me
TO say any thing about them. Ills answer was
a. once curious and Unsatisfactory he said
That the dnke could not give me any assnfan
ccs, suck was the pfedOminating Influence of
The grantees with the hing He Was sincere
W disposed 20 settle All the differences with
III Unilet Staies, aud hoped ~ short time 20
have power TO eject "a had authorized count