Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1817-04-25

l-(Hear D-Sti!l less should he be in
duced to alter his conduct by any thing
| which the Noble Lord could say either in
| the House or out of uOors-( Hear, hear y
As TO the mean insinuation of the Noble
| Lord, that tor the sake of occupying "a
! scat, which the Noble Lord had filled, or
for the qualification of being brought into
| the House on the shoulders of mob, as
some others had been, lie WOULD give up
his opiuion he treated it with tie con-
iempt it meriied-(Hear, hear y The
HONORABLE Gentleman concluded, with
expressing bis regret at the folly and
| madness which had been displa, ed, aud
the base eNpet!ient which had beenadop-
ted 10 separate the People, and 10 crafty
party feelings and the ambition and party
purposes OF a few Individuals; he trusted,
however, that no honest mai,, either in
the House or out doors, would be iorad
to support the schemes OF these indnidu-
ais.
MIR. Ward did rot rise to make any OBJ
servaiions on the feelings which might
actuaie either the Noble Lord or his iin-
nourable Friend, who perhaps were each
of them friendly To The same cause, tho,
they took u different view OF it bat he
regretted that II should have been stated
nt t'tN tEtAN ~ it'iC StNp tt
granted without danger, or il.at litil'
obtained az first Should satisfy first IL
forts he was persuaded, that to make
any innovation III our Constitution would
be attended with danger and, Therefore,
the first step should meet his fil4A oppo-
sition.
Sir 7. Burdett did moi con3:er that sup
porting the first steps toEariiamen'ay
Reform should bc so taken as Ia pledge
any man against going further if found
necessary buthe was persuaded, It such
d Reform were adopted as should guard
and controul Tie public purse, the great
bulk of the People would be satisfied
With respectto the fears which an Hon
durable Geatlemau (Mr. Ward seemed to
entertain of any Innovations III the Con-
siituiion, Why, the Irish Parliamen, had
been purchased, and an hundred new
Members had bvenadded 10 this parlia-
iocnt. Were notthesc innovations in Ike
Constitution . Yet the HONORABLE Gen
tleman had supported these measures
Clear, heard With respect to the sub
jcct which gave rise immediately TO this
conversation, he wassorry 10 find persons
(who both wished well to the cause) thus
dividing and weakcningthe ca,;se they ad-
vocated. As far as related to the cxien-
frage was extended 10 direct taxation, the
People wouid be satisfied, and nothing
more would be heard of universal suffrage
-(ticar, hear y
Mir. Brand expressed his regret, that
attempts should he made by Interested
persons to introduce chimerica, and vs-
onarv schemes, TO iniure the great cause
i'll which they were all so much interested
HE also regretted much the iil-lined
personal attackwi,ich had this night been
made OH his Honorable Friend by the
Noble Lord. He trusted the Noble
Lord would refrain from such attacks in
future.
Mr.. Curwen was in favour of d rational
Reform.
Lord a. Hamilton also supported the
cause of Reform, and adverted 10 what
had fallen from an Honorable Gentle
man opposite, (Ir. Ware, WHO, he said,
ought 10 be the last TO oppose Parliamcn-
tary Reform, he having been The friend
ami supporter of Mr.. Pitts system ofre-
form.
Mr. Ward explained, and denied that he
had eVerbeen friend TO the question OF
Reform.
Alr. Canning could not Join in the re-
grct expressed by some Gentlemen at the
iiiNi~it+i WHICH Nsui 'drcii 'l-itt bStN zen
the advocates 81 this great measure. He
was persuaded, they would never be ac-
commodated, the various poiats proposed
were so opposite. lie could not however
avoid thinking that ilIe Noble Lord( Coch-
rane) had been hardly used by his friends,
for Of all the plans proposed his certainly
had the diorlty out Ofdoors, where all
who had nothing were ior universal sal-
irage and annual parlaments therefore,
though his plan would ultimately, if car
ried into effect, he productive of ruin, de-
ISOLATION, coniiscation and destruction,
yet it was the Noble Lords plan, and let
him stick it. He invited the Gentlemen
on the other side, each of whom had
pocket plan Of Reform of his own, to bring
forward their Whole stock of iiabersashe-
ry before Easter, that the House might
have the benefit oftiem all, OH tie discus
sion ofthe great question.
Mr.. Tierney was too old now TO enter
into any visionary schemes of Reform
what he wished TO do was, to make the
House what it ought TO bette guardians
OF The Peoples rights. One thing he must
complain of, that was, that the Right TO
nOurablc Gentleman opposite should have
observed on the differences which existed
on this side of the House, and taken upon
himself to say, that those differences
could never be accommodated. Did the
Right honorable Gentleman mean TO mo-
uopolize ali power of accommodating DIFF
frrences of opinions TO himself.-(iiea
hearD Certainly, he had great talents
that way. If tie flight Honorable Cen
tIeman Iyould infnrn, fI,.s IIouse how mo