Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1816-08-17

whea II was also remembered hist the noble Lord
opposite (S.dmouil) had been--he spoke With all
due tspect--considersb.y qsizzeG by thar right
hon. gentleman. He mentioned /, merely AS q
matter of curiosity, Ter not TO be expected that
the right hon. gentleman would have taken his
seat On the opposition benches where the pros-
pact must to han have been dismal; and be had
therefore wisely avoided the frozen regions of on
position, where he must have felt so uneomtorta-
Bile, ard resolved TO bssk in the royal favor. But
rs ne had quizz d his colleagues before. so now he
had no sooner got INTO Office, than he brought a
serious charge against them. The right t,p GEN
tleman, in his Liverpool speech, asserted that he
had never solicited the honors and emoumeuts OF
Foreign Minister but that they had been thrust
upon him :--aud he asserted further. that he had
insisted upon his recall, and the withdrawing of
those emoluments which were thrust upon him for
DONG nothing; bot that his colleagues had denied
his request and shut their against his solicts-
tons, SO that he compelled still to sink under
rat Toad OF aonors and emoluments fastened upon
him so much against his incn,,inn Nov this was
manifest waste OF the public money, for the min
Etcrs ought to have known that the Court of Por-
tngai had returned before they made such an an
pointment. Another point d, serving attention was,
the 6ivsrting 10000 OF tie public money 10 the
private use of the Prince Regent This money
formed part ofthe drots of the crown. CYear.
HcGr Did they mean To say that these public
droits oil the crown migl, be applied to any minis
ter, to the private accommodation of the prince
HE money was applied To the expenses of the
PAVILION 1T Brighton, and other matters of a sim,lar
description. II this were permitted to pass with
out proper obs rvation, minister might supply the
prince TO any extent Of the public money without
being liable to any question. lie proposed, there
tore, that the thir, reading of the bin should be
postponed for short time, TO give sn opportunity
tor an inIury by Committee /; and he was sure
that the na'ion ihstanding its too heavy bur-
d,ens, would not be disposed to refuse such al
1Axua Il. 1.
TO support the well understood dignity of the
crown, and It's proper spendor in the eyes of this
country and Europe. He therefore, moved, that
instead OF no1v the bill be read third time this day
fortnight.
Lord Holland argued for the suppression of the
Office oi third Secretary oi State. lie next advert.
ed to the appointment of Mr.. Canning. lie did not
think, generally speaking, that political reconc,lia-
ton could OF itself inrm charge against either OF
the parties previously at variance: anA with regard
To the small artillery that has been employed by the
ri. hon. gentleman against his present colleagues, he
would leave them to settle mutsally how they felt
sfeeted by It. But atlvertirg to the Lisbon embas-
sy, he must thinkit hard that the public should be
at the expense OF the reconciliation that the par
ties were TO drink the bottle of wine in pledge Of
reconciliation, which the country had 10 pay for
ne hau no objection tn the additional check erea.
tel by a nsNv auditor of the civil list but from an
aogy TO private lif', it seemed more des,rous that
the master should appoint his own steward, or that
The indelicscy should be removed By its being
parliamentary, not a ministerial appointment -
The noble Lord next adverted TO the comparison
male ct former night between our civil list and
that a France and here he must remark, thst
there seemed strong disposition 70 preach up the
example oil foreigners for our intuition, while at Inc
same Tune we were To give powers for sending them
out ct the country. He, lord HoIland,) at the
same time could not help recommending, that we
should rather look for an example to the Govern.
mRrffa frD OC, -.
ernmenis of the Continent He hoped and be-
Nevsd however, that the government Of this coun-
try was not 50 different from that of America as it
strom that OF France we stood it were be
tween the two extremes therefore it would be-
come IT'S TO lOpk rather, % the more economical for
an example. Tie Noble Earl had asserted that the
expense OF fhe civil service of America would be
found proportinnaly large as that of this conn-
'iy. tie saiiit was Hecessarv 20 look not only at
the eNpences Of the general government, but also
at those OF the provir cial governments ofAmerica
ne estimated that the total civil expenditures of
that county 10 years ago amounted to not less than
100000. annually. What, however, did the Noble
Earl take tn be the total civil expenditure of this
country To make the parallel complete with
ms estimated expenditure of America, he lord
HehahT) conceived that we must take also into ac-
count the whole ofour country rates and various
articles oil local expense both in ireland and IN Scot
Land nay, that We should take in also the amount
oi our poor rates which would astound the Amer-
cans from one end Of their country to the other the
expenses also of our schools and colleges, and even
our roads and bridges, for he knew that the sums
expended for the support of colleges and education
IN America formed large item in their provincial
expenditure. He would here beg leave To submit,
an estimate which he had drawn up of the general
amount OF the expenses attending the civil govern
ment If this country -
Civil List III oso.ooo
Pension and other charges 100000
s~,r H. 4 Al
public TO-, 900
4 COMMITTEES Of the House of
Commons had stated that so muci,
might be saved by the abolition of
snecures it required little arithme-
tic, therefore, to see that they must
amount TO that sum if that sum could
be saved out of them.)
Average OF grants fir civil niseel-
laneous services for the last two
years 100000
Civil expenditures OF Scotland 100, COO.
Ditto of ireland 6CO,03O
Ditto Of the Duchies of Lancaster
and Cornwall $4,000
l-2 per cent. Duties $4,000
Civil officers in Courts Of Justice
paid from fee funds 10000
CTaud Total L5.050, 900
He was inclined TO think hc had stated the var-
Que items rather within than beyond their amount
Now reckoning the pound sterling as equivalent 10
four dollars, the whole expenditure Of the Civil List
of America would amount to as ,908l But with re-
IN Tho tteu,c ,vhota nrt ka