Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1816-08-17
IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OFLORDS,
THURSDAY, June Is.
CIVIL. LIST.

The Earl Of Liverpool moved the third reading
of the Civil List Bill
tsrl Grosvenor rose to oppose the further pro.
gress OF the Bin tor the present, that time might
he given for inquiry by Committee into the ac-
eursey of those statements upon which tie Ri
was supported. From all that he had witnessed
OF the proceedings of Minister'S he had no conf
dence in their aedged anxiety to copfne The ex-
penses OF the Civil Lis; within the proper limits
~ time, then, when they were placing the civil
list on entirely footing, au,l making a new
| contract with the Grown, ticy we're Regulating
without the proper information. lie wished tier
Lordshlps ia attend to the nature The Bill. the
expenditure il uld caase and to the occ,,;- az,
revenues ofthe Crown. He objected 10 the bill n.
radically bad. Ii was founded on delusion or y,
least there was certain information before their
Lorrshps as to the necessity of the additional ex
pendture. The Civil List contained but a limited
portion of the civil expenditure, asd the country
had also to support the eXpences of the army Da
w and ord"a ce, besides from forty to fifty millions
a year on account Of the natioral debt and under
such circumstances II was most serious evil to
impose an additional expence OF the country, IN
less the necessity Gift were clearly shown. The
iroits OF the Crown and al the ocaas Gna rcvenues
ought to have heeD taken into the han, OF the pnb
lie, allowing TIE Clown proper compensation by
way OF liked salary. In this respect the bill was
faulty. This was proper opportunity for such m
arrangement, and il would have beer an advantage.
Gus one both for the Grown and the pubic The
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night, had inside very unfair statement Of the Gilt
List xrenditure.-Instead of 100000 a year the
expenditure in fact double that sum, or about
l'OOO,bOoL supposine the generations to be nclu-
dcd This ought to have been stated He could
not agree tst the transerence OF certain articles of
huctnaing expenditure to the consolidated fund had
any tendency. TO make them more the objects OF
public attention In the cifii list they might be
seen but these minor matters of expence were al
most invisible when thrown into the unfstbnrnabIe
ipl, ft,ac A, Iofa g.,
o. the creation Of the Audt-Ofiice Lord Coke. he
believed, had said-and il sufficiently evident
though he bad not saidit that the creation of new
Offices oughlto be regarded with great jealousy, as
They were often created on specious pretcxts, with
out any nect ssty, and, when once created they
could not BE- got rid Of The Office, in truth. world
be entirely useless; and he surprised that the
household ciiicers-the Lord Steward, the ord
Chamberlain, aud Master oftle HOrse-had not
come down TO oppose It'll this auditor we're to en-
terinto their otllcss and prove o!icousy inquisi-
tVe,it might easily be guessed what sort OF treat
Inent be would meet with and the result weud
be, that he would retire-not in disguit for he
would still be empoyed-to receive the ssIsrv
he noble Earl. the other night, had instituted
comparison between the expenses Of the head "a
our government and that Of The chiefs Of other eoy-
ernmens. He dill not much approve Of the com,
parison rs 10 despotc governments, rs IN these
there was no control ever the expences ri the
sovereign. iie wished the comparison with Fra &C
hlu Deeh ielt out OF the question he liked that
with America better. But IN that part oftie A.
meriesn expenditure which the noble Earl h.d
compared to our civil list, he had not mentioned
that payments Ike country rates, and the es-
penecs OF the militia, were Included lie WISHED
n have tho noble Ears answer to this one qnes-
ton, whether the personal expences al the Aineri.
can President amounted to HOO,0OOy But even
tie noble Earl himself hal not carried the cy-
pence Of the American Execuiive Government
beyond 100000, and enr civil list cxpercs vas
more than double that sum. Another pomt con.
nectcd With this subject, well serving ol attention,
was ihe expcnce Of Foreign Minister'S and with re-
spect to this branch, the ministers OF the crown
were 50 careful that the expenditure should not
be too i.ile, that tIey appointed right hon gen.
tleman AnbaSsador, with liberal allowance, At
place where there was no court. That hon. gen
ueman had, however, been recalled At last on had
returned d his own accord, and had been appoint
cd president % tic board Of control. This ap.
po'otmcnt was rs'ber curious one when il wss
eonsderen thSt the non. gentleman ia question
had 50 often n'aiisined that the noble earl Div
erpcol) wss tots'iy unqualified for IN Office which
he had held under The crown that noble Lord
"a e other house was Also utterly unqualified, aud