Richmond enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1815-1867, 1816-05-01

The mere circumstances al having new stations was
az, sufficient, Unlt.i =, esui bc svn iliat 90 dim
in"ion OF nleS i'ie old stations was sxpc.iient-
For irse reasons lac 1t !. lbs, tn conceive the
necessity {" This great n,crcas,. II scryics. With
regard 10 other parts d! i's establishments he rath-
er wished AZ increase ,l,H a,iu,nutpn lac alluded
80 ti; situation III the hu,ruSnts anil inferior OIL
c - 81 i've -avv. Those brave AND ,ncritn.inus
men DID 0pt receive sufficient re,nancrati5n.-
4 eic 5cryiess, however sh sii! ma, b. forgotten
and much less s'im tiNn thst required Cor the al
di,ionsl 5eno men wosli p.ovils COAT r,sb!y for
taan liae was ia error, he wnli listea with great
difference to tanse who better informed bat
the tune might come, when he would make some
proposition 60 the house To that effect He objected,
however, to tins great incrcase OF the number o
men; lor, u tine house should consent vote them
would be idle o. Talk nj economy Ii they vote
them. they must pay t;cm, which would throw
great and unnecessary burthcas on the coun-
try.
Mr.. Law, considering t,iat> from the disposition
ana eOniictins interests o various powers, from the
feelings kn.wn to exist in America, the hopes of n
durable peace were not certain rs had been re-
presented, Thought That our navy ought not to be
diminished even to the eytentit ned been already.
II the honorable gentleman passed his eve over the
map OF Europe, and considered the feelings of the
olttoren' Gorerrmeuia, he would he satisfied there
wac necessity for rs keeping up great naval rs.
enlistment. lie was DESTROYS, how, yer, ofknowirg
why t,ie establishment now was smaller than that
proposed after the treaty OF Paris lie wished
also to know why the honorable Baronel had paid
on the Navy so rapidly, aud ncossiierately. when
had caused the Disturbances in the northern uorts
50 much to- be regrette,,'
Sir G.. Wsrrenler stated that tie admiralty had
relied on the opinion at eminent naval officers rs 20
the mode ot paving oil the navy, AID hat no one
instance OF insuborCiinaun hat occurred during the
time that the men were discharged, which was Of
itself suieicnt answer to all thst hal been allei.
ell respecting The distu Dances. But to one IT hon
gentleman, MIR. Poasorbv y h, wish d n explain
point which he thought had been msunders o,i
he wished to state that ihe Increase in tie number
oil Sea'ncn did not arise from the number of ships
employed, hut from the nnarn"rin which thew were
rnanncd. The sZs of the French t,.igates rad been
increased, aod It vas necessary that the complement
o ours should bar some sopr Xms,i H. The view
mat tHe right hon. gentleman had taken ofthe ma
VIC. OF Europe not quite fair. The lis, time
the Ouon Heet put ont TO I Lord Exmontl, il
consisted o! only seventeen sail of the line AMI two
r'gates; the hardest actions fought by the French
were IN tie year 1873, drring which period they
INTO sea thirteen trrates, OF which eleven were
tSei'' hut alter hard fighting but the l. euch
ships OF the lire amounted 20 Ky SAIL aud those oil
Europe united To nearly two hundred Such b~in-
The ease, he world ask the Horse he would nsk the
country, If they would wish IN see the estab
N'lnent OF this cniIntry rcuce TO : .usrd ships
No 1t would be s,id, let rather submtt TO all tie
buri'es ri taxation than diniais,. t,at navy to which
We owe AL cur esory-all security 1t had
been urged that reduction might be matte in some
o The foreign stations Gut tie situation OF South
America was different iruIn what Il had hcen our
msfcha is Il, sired protection, ID it was proper
hey saou! have it. As To amy reduction in the West
Indies, could we forget or overlook tie power
growing up IN that quGrt1r-tne power efN. Amer
ica rs in The navy halls pay. large additions hal
already been made, aud fcr his part, he wishes, it
cou id he greater st but here was duty to the
public AS well rs duty IA the navy, and If the
ali pay were Ia be increased, ii mus; be al the OK
pence OF the eonntr!, snd not accomplished by q
farther reduction Of ihe navy whatever might be
W shed he cnnd hot hold out any hopes of an in
crease II the halfpay of the navy.
Mr. Law remarked that the hon. Baronet had
not 'entGred 10 a'legc, that the disturbances IA the
north had been caused by t,e sudden discharge Of
the navy nor bad he stated why the naval establish
ment Il 1871 d should be so much less than that of
l9O2, and the military establishment so much great
Sir G. Wsrrcnder replied, that the number of
ships employed not less, and tina, they had been
manned with unexaInpied rapidity.
Mr.. Rose surprised for tue first time in hear
Ing the admiralty blamed for paying of'the navy up
on the approach Ofpeace. There no connexon
between the riots OF the seamen in the north and
tieir being paid off after the lie witmesse. az
portsmouth fI'gate ct that tMe, wl;eh was LAYING
there Tor the purpose Of taking oar minister to A.
merIca, and 1t could not sail for want Of men. With
respect To military force for cOoais, ne con
tended, as he had done on former night. that il
was impossible Tor navy alone 20 guard the West
Indies. Ii was necessary TO have a number OF IN en-
N the beginning OF war, otherwise the country
would be wounded by surprise. Under all the cir
cumstances, though no man more anxious than
himself 10 cave the expenditure Of the country, he
never yet saw plan less exceptiolabe that ac-
count than the present.
Mr.. Ponsorby said few words respecting the
observations made upon America, and although he
dl not Know, he believed no disposition of hostility
Existed On the government Of that country towards
us and nc regretted that such observations male
~ the House oi commons uudesigncdly, vet might
have tendency TO iniame Inc n.nds ri the peo1le
o America. He much Dreaded the existence any
nosIle SPIRIT IN America against this country or i'm
ths eoustry towards Americas, and he wished that
country should not BE- adyerie to in the manner il
had beeh adVcrt-d 20 this uight.As TO tile navy OF
tbs country, it WAS impossible that an increase Of
that III any European King ON could take place
without our having due notice, aud the means Of
cOuatcrlcting il.
Sir Charles MoncS asserted that the disturbances
OF seanen in tie North, iguated IN q quarrel with
the eolliers and rot from their being paid Off
Lord Milton thought the navy of America cotdI
never he httcd against this country, and this aunht
hr't to have been made out, before the inference
could be drawn Of the necessity In increase cur IA
val force, with view 20 the navy of America The
n.Ey OF this conotry depended soi upon the esiah
hshment 4 $4,000 men, bat itdcpcnds upon com
mcfee and the ships employed iH it to AL parts q.
the gl,be. The noble lord proc cdcd to notice The
palIiS oil The navy, and trrscj would still be paid
on 10 greater extent than present it was pcraus
mtcndeh.-iie was an advocate Tor economy in the
public expenditure, and il WAS duty which every
one owed to their constituents to SEE that there was
no waste IN the expenditure the state. He con.
cuhed by suggesting The proprieiy Of more limit
ca ne Tor Tie proposed establishments, than for
The whole Of the year 1916.
Lord Casliereagh Thought from Whist had passed.