Virginia Argus. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1796-1816, 1815-06-17

fAall GREY, adVeFdng 10 the allusion IN the LIST
arucie OF The treaty of Vienna, to certain stipu-
Iatlons which had been previously entered into.
observed, that unless theirlordsh ps were in nos.
session OF those stpulations, it would be impossi-
Die tor them 10 enter fully into the consideration
Of the treaty Itself
RUSSIAN LOAN IN HOLLAND.
Earl GREY proceeded TO observe, that there
was another subject on which he wished for IN
formation from the noble earl It was rumored
that ,oan OF ten millions had been some short
time ago raised in Holland, for the service of
Russia but that the representative of that pow
er having Mt the Congress sta ed tile inability Of
Russia to pay it, it was determined that Russia
should pay half, that Holland, by some arrange
ment which he did not profess to understand
Should pay quarter, and that Groat Britain
sn9uid pay tho remaining quarter--nanely, two
millions AID half OF money This agreement
Dad, II seems, been entered INTO and signed bv
our secretary Of state, without any communica-
ton having been made to Parliament on the sub
jcct. Was It true that his maiesty's government,
had thus pledged the faith of the country to paw
so large a sum Of money!
Tie Earl CT Liverpool said, that the noble earl
must ne wei aware that no agreement could be
mace by ms mJesiy's government, which must
not he submitted to the consideration of Parlia-
ment, and which Parliament might or might not
confirm at pleasure
Earl Grey observed, that he knew that per-
fectly well, bit that II was very possible hat
rinis'e rs might pledge The faith Of the country,
'nd place Parliament m the situation either of vi
ciatmg that Faith. or Of imposing on the subject a
burden Of The description which he had mention
Cd. nc asked iie noble lord if IL was the fact
mat siich AN agreement had been entered INTO
The Fail OF Liverpool replied, that he could
only repeat that goyernmcR could not be pledged
70 1ny transactions which were not subsequently
Liable TO the control Of Parliament. lie must de-
cline answering the noble earls question.
f@rl Grey remarked, ut he must consequent-
" understand that The noble earl did not deny
that sucf an agreement had been entered into.
Ihc Earl OF Darnley, IN reference 20 the recent
treaty OF Vienna, wished TO know Wheeler VIC
we're understood as pledged TO 20 to war with
france ard farther, ( ministers, when they pro.
tessed mcaslrcs of precauti0n and preparation.
os referred 10 in ihe address, were aware OF the
existence Of nc tre4tyf
The Earl Of Liverpool said, that BY the address
the house was pledged 70 no more Than its Ian.
guage implied, state of precautionary prepare.
Non but he had no difficulty in informing the
noble lord, that one day previous 10 the address
hcng voted, the treaty was received in this coun
~, but uEdcr The circumstances Il was deemed
Improper 20 bring Il forward, ~ noble lords NAV
rec0lect Ec had thcn distinctly stated, il was
part Of he policy of this government not tn force
the concurrence Of tle allies beyond what Their
own sense Of the state Of affairs should prompt
Them to act The treaty slloded TO was signed
On he 18th Of March It was, therefore, signed
before they could know the situation to which tho