Alexandria gazette, commercial and political. [volume] (Alexandria [Va.]) 1812-1817, 1815-06-12


| that this country forced the Americans
to have an establishment on them. All
| that the treaty provided for was, That we
should be at peace, and that all decisions
| should be referred to friendly power.
The whole oft was mark of the great
est neglect on the part of his Majesty's
| Ministers, who left negociators at Client
in the greatest decision. Looking at the
| delay of the treaty. it was impossible
not to be aware of the injury of not max
ing peace with America when the trea-
ty of Paris was signed. If peace had
been concluded at that time, the coun-
try would have had to boast that we had
fought defensive war with America in
the most honorable manner; that with
the most trihing force we.had shewn our
selves capable of defending our colonies
| against all the power of America, & that
we had leftan impression on that country
which for half century would not have
been wore out. The government, how
| ever, had thong hit otherwise they
thought that that was moment for max
| ing an impression on America, they made
that trial, and were soi!ed both i'll Inc
! North and in the South. Gentlemen
might say, it was not fair to argue from
accidental circumstances, and what had
been the result of the campaign but
none could say there was any chance ct
making an impression on that country,
@itter IN the Nerth Or in the South. lie
should Ii! to hear TIE Hon. Gentleman
,iefetd tie policy of penetrating into
| America. He should like to ask him.
what could be tie object Of tie expedi-
ten to New Orleans. SHprosirg we
hal taken that city, what benefits would
tits country have derived ? We should
have plundered some ware houses Of
cotton. to our great and eternal d.sg, ace.
One half of that article was purchased
by persons in this country on speculation:
but the object of the expedition was
plnnder, and nothing else; for if we had
taken possession of New Orleans. the We
ry first warm day the men must have
walked out, if they had any legs to walk
on. 1t was spot on which the Ameri-
cans themselves lost two Or three thou
sand men; and if ten thousand lad been
sent on that expedition, we could not
ha had 500 capable performing the;i
duty. 1t was his opinion, that the north
efn states f America would be the
Arst formidable enemy We shopld have
to meet at sea, and he only hoped, as
peace had been concluded, that little
more attention would eraid ty Govern
m 1T to the concerns of tie two countries
and that means would be adopted to pre-
s@rve friendship between t!en-From
tTescrcanstancesa both cauAtries. ard
The great commercial relations tat snb-
sist between item, it As necessary that /
a treaty should BE made to define these
relations more distinctly. fr, without it !.
1t AS impossible that peace could lie
MA a.nei,
Mr.. 20 LEUIN eyrli9ed.
Mr.. M4ij.ltiAi,i c, nteHled. that the
CONCESSIONS of Great L itain rad failed
to cGnciiiate America, who. however, III
the treaty Of 1857, allowed France to
reclaim her subjects, SO that she stood
condemned out of her own mouth. Wit
regard to what the Hon. Gentleman had
said concerning tie indians. it was IN
cunbent on Great Britain to ual,e some
stipulation on TIE part cfthose who had
bled in her service. The great object Of
peace. as Mir. Madison had Observed.
was to prevent recurrence OF war: and
Ministers had dcne all they could in ma
king peace with America, as soon as
they could so do consistently with tie
honour of this country. TIE object oi
America was, to prevent Great Britain
from retaining the allegiance OF her own
subjects. but in this America lad Con-
pletely failed, and Great Britain Lad
been successful.
Atr. CHARLES GRANT said, that
tie subject under tie discussion of the
House was strictly tie treaty, ard the
sub ,ect grated on that was the conduct
U us Maiesty's Ministers during tie
nesCc alton. 1t had been observed, tia:
several points remaining unsettled, tie
treaty was net complete, but III spite Oh
what he had heard, herealy thought that
an adjustment would be mace. lie
would not enter into the subject OF
tie origin Of the war; but Mr.. Madison
had said, that if tie repeal OF the Orders
in Council had been hnown.it would not
have prevented var. Tie fact was,
that there existed hostile split In the
American Government towards tfls