Alexandria gazette, commercial and political. [volume] (Alexandria [Va.]) 1812-1817, 1815-05-29

and they knew not in point Of fact, how
far the present Ruler of France was in
nossession of the effectual authority of the
state, though he was certainly in posses
sion Of the capitalize certainly, there
fore, could not be for the country, or to
those great objects contemplated in the
Message, to go unnecessarily into any
premature discussion of the question OF
peace or war. Under all these considera.
tions he was induced hope. t.at in the
Address, care would be taken to leave
that important question open to future
consideration, or at least SO as not tt
pledge the House to either opinion. Were
it so framed he would not be inclined te
offer any opposition. But if contrary te
sucha just expectation, they should be cal
led upon to decide different line Of
policy, or to give apiniens which might
commit the II. to decision that open
hostilities ought to be immediately un'
dertaken, he should then deem it his duty
to oppose such aline of proceeding; but
he could not avoid taking that early op'
portunity of expressing his hope, that tie
Address would be such as to enable him
to suspend any opposition to its adoption.
Earl Stanhope thought the question up.
on which their lordships would have to
decide, one of the greatest importance,
as involving, to a certain extent at least,
the momentous decision of peace or war
war, which found every thing before it
like tie garden of Eden, and left every
thing after it like desolate wilderness.
The question was rendered more import.
ant when the recent declaration of tie
allied powers was considered: and in
at view it was his intention to move for
copy of the declaration, signed by the
ministers of the allied pow ers at Vienna,
and dated the 18th of March, to be laid
upon the table of that house. 1t was pro-
per the contents OF that paper should be
authoritatively known to their ordshis
The rrihciI les upon which that docu-
ment vas founded, were such as to rem.
der it incumbent on tie noble lord and
others, to say in what sense they under
stood It's tenor, for, according to the usu-
al meaning of the English language, ii
was most horrible. In another polEt OF
view it neant to ficulcate, that tie
Frenc, natl IN, or any other government
SO circumstanced, should be attacked
What, he asked. authorised the reignins
family t. sit upon tie throne, but tie
right conferred upon them by the parlia
ment of the county that SAME autho-
rity which had dismissed King James II.
The same might be said with respect to
the present king of Spain, who owed his
throue to the choice oi tie Cortes, which
was the parliament of that country; but
in case of his expulsion, English troops
might be sent into Spain to support Fer
dinand against the Cortes and the Ieol
ofthat country, as " ell, his lordship SEEM
ed to think: as into France, uLder itsl
present cumstances and on this point
he thought there ought to be cal un-
derstahding, whether the pledge called
fer from tie house should proceed un tire
principle laid down by his noble lrleEc,
Or whether it sh Guild be ledge to =
farther. II it were to be In support 0
tie instrument lie Lad referred to, Ii
should rather die iii tie most Eorrid state
oil torture, tl.an aslee to such plorosi
ton. he noble earl tnen repeated hIs
intention to move for tie production 81
tie document lie had adyelted to.
1he earl of Liverpool observed, he
Should have, Wien the subject was legu-
iarly under discussion, to state distinctly
tie cglects OF the Prince keseat,s 60
yernlHe,.t, with respect to tie lille OF Coll
duct To which they had advised bis royai
10 ness. Uneol these certainly vas TIE
fun l.. ent of the engas enlents entered in
to ~ the treaty OF falls, and this would
be l.n,a4eu Dy the address, but it would
contain no "olos committing tie house
lartner tLal an appropriation OF tie mea-
sules Of aiming, aid ol the steps taken
" this country, in concert With It's al
lies, towards tie general security OF Eu-
rope. Indeed he lad no objection to
tlalSmit "a copy of the address to noble
lords opposite, il ti.ey desired 1T.
Lore GreEvile expressed, bis decided
appreciation OF tie two measures, referred
to III tie message; and in tie present
most arduous and off cult situation Iii
which this country vas placed, lie tho't
no man could doubt the Necessity OF "a
dortlng vigorous measures Hear,-
He.4r.- Wv hatever bores OF success may
be eAl ected, they must be founded Oh
coop OF connection with the Pow :
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